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f ~~ ~: ut Ifiere is , Mr. Fit glows' Pensions is COrtiniisslioner of Stumps .- L 2001.; and 2f)31. the retired pension of Inspector. Ceetieral of Tea and Coffee, makes 1,45041." (lethghter and loud cheerios from the Opposition.) .•Sir J. Oatoo.re .said the Hon. Measlier had said ttlat the circumstance took place in the Admirals), o:Ace but, in fact, the office from which Mr. Finch Hatton retired was that of Under-Secretary veltitte. Iloilo !ant the statement which lie had to end which.lrd been read by the clerk, wee final a return mode from the Admirelty4lextess. (Cheers4—Really he could not help coo stye 'country in the way in which : its strums were a& ministered ; and the House en the prospect which awaited them, from the ability and promptitude with which the Hon. Memher.would„ no doubt, be stile to explain the . particular items of the navy evtimates when they came before the Committee.-.- (Lenghter and cheers.) —But he must protest against Gentlemen whose information was so very incorrect, rising in their places and giving la ' flat contradiction to statements made from the oft vial returns of their own departtneuts, without even: taking the pains to inquire into their truth or falai liw CHANCELLOR or the EXCHEQUER said, that Mr. Finah Hatton had been returned under 'Ott , Admiralty. Return of persons holding double ap.' poiromeiits, because he held the office of Pay tumor!' of Sea Officers Widows' Pension., which he hail held for Many years. fie.held it at the same time with that of Commissioner of Stamps--(Hest. hear)—and it was therefore not true, as stated by the Hon. Member for Aberdeen. that he first re tired from the office of Commissioner of Stamps on superannuation, and then was appointed to the Psymastershio of Pension,. Bnt he retired horn the office of Under-Secretary of State without a pension, acid was then appointed to those offices without any other consideration. He repeated, that great inconvenience. tould arise from the post lemeitleat or, t)il. vote. Mr. Minix said, after ell that he had heard, he did not think that the Right Hon. Gentleman had made out any case to sheer that soy possible injury could ;rise from the postponement of hie motion for a few hays. When his Hon. Friend had.given way se candidly on a suggestion of the ronvenieoce of notice being given for such a nio tioo, it appeared to him to be no more than what nii c , , ltt in reason be expected, that the Chancellor of the Exchequer !should consent to postpone his Con in ecturn.. If lie did not. and his. flouourable Friend should divide the House upou his amend ment, he (Mr. T.) should certaiuly give him his Th. Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, it must on all hands be agreed that this would be a very incon venient vehicle fut. a new tax. These were the annual bills an which the ways and means fur the year were founded ; sad if there was not some particular. purpose to be answered by the post. ponement, it would be productive of serious ie. convenience ; because this was the proper time fur bringing forward the ways and memo, and it was desirable that they should with as little delay as possible proceed to vote those duties which were hi meet the exigencies of the pub. lic service. With respect to the amendment which had been proposed by the Honourable Mein. berfor . Aberdeen, it would be productive of this practical injustice, shut in substituting for the pre to•iit tnx.o 'mend tot of tea shillings in the pound on ell'official pensions and allowances, it would let oW thOse offices which had always Reid the tax for on impost of six alining,. and imposing a new lax on those which were now untouched of tea shilling.. Ile really thought it would be much better to agree to the vote et present, and if any Hon. Member thought proper to bring forward a specific motion hereafter fora general charge on all official allow. minces, it would be open to him so to do. Mr. Tiltaort said the only question really to he considered at present was, whether by post. pening this vote, es had been proposed, any incon. venience could arise to the public service; which he contended could not be the case, because the amount of the other votes, exclusive of this, would exceed the sum which it was necessary to advance. The way in which the courtesy of his Hon. Friend had beet, met, was not calculcted to encourage ocher Gentlemen to rive wry. in order to suit the emiveniroce of the Right Hon. Gentleman or his friend?. Jr. IL C. flu:NE . l.r amid, he objected altogether in the I'en,ioti bill, rod, therefore, he ►hould be g lad to take any opportunity that might offer of g-tting rid of the measure, which opurated most unequally, some offices bring out •ery well paid, while others were greatly overpaid. Ile thought that the whole of the Pension Bill, sod every branch of it, should came distinctly under the con ►ideration of the Iktyuse in Commute for the pur pose of modifiretiou. No inconvenience could re sult to the public service from the delay of s few (13P: sod as his Honourable Friend bad withdraw° his amendment, utiles, the Chancellor of the Er c'a•quer consented to postpone this vote to another opportunity, he (Mr.lll. G. IL) should muse, u an srucadment, that the Chairman do report progress, stud ask leave to sit again. Mr. CROK Ea said, the Honourable Member, in speaking of Mr. Finch Henan, stated him to be a person belonging to the Admiralty Office, and that be had actually retired on ■ superenuuatiou from it. But, in point of fact, he never belonged to the Admiralty Office, nor had any connexion with it, and thereline his Honourable Friend, the Lord of the Admiralty., was quite correct in his denial of the Honourable Gentlemau's statement. The per son in question happened to be worsted from the ...e Admiralty, correction .4 that stetemest. •Mersei had bu .iielt is agent es lisisac• et as athlete Is ,it Member rigid, which bad so eampteldy. failed, is this bad skies ,Hia. Hastealebia Primed .was to be corrected, wet breams. he had made any mishits is the 'sem, am because he bad made say mistake hi the per. .sows, bat Menne/ 'het persos fonoeth did sot helm( to the Admiralty, bee had beets put into ea Admiralty mere as paymaster of Flimsiest*, which were pithiest of the pro ceeds of old mares. He appeared is et seen frown the Ad airsity 011 ice, sites! " G. Dyer," mad hissed to there as admitted, because the poishis were • et fai ae Less nts at the dilemmal of the Adasiratti. Bat tholig. Limit eels also immediately catalreetid:ellblise 'Ad: 3 ll l :lTb fork w called Paymaster ot-Peneliies bras . WM/sem • 1 Mr.. CROKER said, the Widows' Feud . were erne side* the mesagernent of the . bat at s distbetedepaeatitimi until it sou annex tietn :tr miry ad. MOO by the Aet et• 1811. , . Mr. HUMBeseld, the Httnowrab/e Ikerelliorteulie Adaat ' rattg denied that the fend; in questisai was emler the Ad. sairalty, and yet its the estimates for the miry it wen charged at 105.0001. Rif M. W. RIDLEY said, that so lour r than lea rem" ale eiss pensioo of Mr. Fisch Hatton was increased from 11084. oroool. Mr. ELLICE said, the Right illonoorab'e the Clianalle low of the Exchequer bad statist it to be the *testes uir Government at no distant day to propose am satire new ervi rangement of the public secoulits. He (Mr. E.) th.iughtt that this was see of those matters which selshl ha easily arranged• Why did they sot rather damisish the wisest of' the pensions at °ace, Weird of tobjaoism thew tertie devious is the way of tax ? The words if the ressiotes were " four shillings and no more; so that if it were new agreed to, it would preclude the consideration otanj tor.. thee red/anion. die J. OS HORN—He had hem led Ise a saisteko of what the Hon. Illemberlier Aberdeee had said, hyseppes., ink him to base stied the word refired, instead of wheal. ' had mid that the person had beer TlllllllO4 from the Ad-' wriralty Once. Mr. HUME said, at - first the salary of Its: Fisch Flatten, as Polyandry of Widows* Proems wee rosily 1011Ags which was raised I. 1001. is 1818; :ersd IVAN to Oft to' 1816, that year when the country was to orerburrleued with cash.--(Laagliter, and hear, hear.)—He thought thus was is itself' a reason why It should now at once be reduced tolool. .• Mr. SCARLET I' 'aid tire words of the resolution, ex pressly Whig the easiest of the tax at *Gar shillings is the pound, and no more," if it were now agreed to it would preclude all farther diacossioa of the subject. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said a few words, which were wholly inaudible In the gallery from the noise of weaves eadearowiter to here their wag Is. .. . ? ha gallery nos tiara cleared dine slieisisewhelllr. 8.0. Bearetesameudinent, sober the Willdwilbellieliew ••• • Ayes • • 'Noes lO • Majority in favour of midst." Oe ewe retorts to Use pinery the iselikell emsdim woompAs put, wLen Mr. CALCRAFT said, be hoped the Otsdllnittee would not come to soy resolution which would preclude it from may further discussion of the question' of a general red she modem mad allowsaces, aid in order to-keep =Zit ler open. he mowed as as smeedment, that She weirdo no more" be left oel.• • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, baby no objection to the omission of the words in qoettiou, /kb. a view of leaving the subject open fur future (hamlets& Mr. ELLICE wished to be informed what was tiortipia. of collecting this sax? . The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER made ellr' answer, which was a holly inaudible in the Gallery. Mr. ELLICE said, be bad put the rpreelion to skew, that if the pensions were reduced immediately, they would sam at least the express, of millectiog the tax. Mr. HUME said, he was serried at what had fallen from the Right Hon. Geatlenme. Is July, ISIS, be mad. • molion having precisely the same object as the armee meat which he now cuotemplated, which motion be then opposed. Mr. BROUGHAM said he hoped tlie Cheat:eller of the Exchequer would have no objective to adopt • similar course respecting the shilling and sixpenny defy, which he believed was paid in the same way by a poundage duty. He should recommend it to his Hon. Friead, the Member for Aberdeen, to look into that little corner of the Tea Oilles Relates, where be would And stimulant matter for his attention. The anwodeseet was then agreed to. The continuation of the duties on Sugar, and the Excise doilies on Foreign Spirits and Sweets, were agreed to. Ou the motiou fur the raising of two millions on Exche quer Bills—. Mr. ELI.ICE said, before that vote was taken*into con sideration, he wished to hear from the Right Hon. Gentle man some explanation of his plan for the reduction of the Et per Cents. The CHANCELLOR of she EXCHEQUER said that it was his inteation to give notice of a motion for Monday, for the purpose of bringing that subject before the House. The vote was then agreed to, as was also a vote for trams (erring 4,000,0001. of the aids of 1821 to the service of MM. The Howse thee resumed, and Mr. BROGOEN brought wp the Report of tie Cosamittes of Rays and Means. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then moved t►at the Arts of 1784 commonly called the Navy Are per Coat. Acts be entered as read, for the purpose of foneding an Order of the Day for a Committee of the 'thole House on Monday, for the purpose of taking the same lido cosaidera. Suns, winch Wog doue, be gave notice of a motion fur that puupuse on Monday. - • • • rk .,, ilsriteis said te• reLaea sele If espouse ia 'a d misrelate/ NM farther reamed cid!" • beifeirfarly Waimea yeas lei 11111•410 414 few the shill "foist- 'whist emit Ise. y 1111.11.00. thee *la isioa • Prates es ie. lifya .f d_i_ l l4tare of pewe e is 181 the somber a wee voted to isms mane s sa g foss ammo i I. tho.prserst 11641 91 How t = lsili tt r Olittattr e dedi jk 2 91 haws Ibis inewrese_ tie pereleethew; 55* - 1010,1149 Me IL 41.444 to alive keta Morn in detail of tile Ostia& id which that'..+ lbw camber of flsß aid exam tillimme. unreente4em yt ersdiertallloB4 aid alto of al e and field tidier; commiselweallastl 0 0 0.41110- elliesiseeifolliews, nod privetes of the • Tu chew that Mee. Was nethietrusehreesitabb hi inkier for that re tire, it was noehing mete Aso held been' glees deem le 0117. The charge Ia the preen. year fur the marines wee 341,1191. Is • reverser period of peace (1799) ha believed it measly 130,0001. This releired examientio. If. they passed lir vow for the 'bait win they would be Precluded from enabl ing hot. the pertleiders hereafter. The retire which he wished to have would Hoehn@ • somber of sinecure ap pointesents,, which were seed In he. givens so dottrels, officer.; bit the Home. 00111111 10 Oft bow far it wee riteirehle that such places should be kept up. There was *11'404801 charged for barracks fee the marines, 11,0001. which could only be for weeks . : There was a stow charged fur Vaiseitre eif 10,7191. which its. requited explaining: They had Wee told that formerly the engitser eta, was podded far ender the head of draught asitle.—(Laughter.).. and It was sot at all qnpuseibk,lll4l tome other eppliestion of mime, was covered up by Woe estimates. The levere ts, Cleaners Odle* wee dined at 1,930 t, bet fee what he eel am imagine. He had bees given to wolenteed that the ogee was when, useless. The second mesa which he should move rue was a return of the "seedily of provleleen of every kind supplied fur the nee of the wavy in the few 1913, 18 lit, sad 1921, 'hewing the primes, each article sop pily& The eves demanded foe the virtualliug this. year, tel. • Iniyebe avember of mew at 13,900 seamen and 2,400 aterinev, tildligliag the number afloat last year, would ameent month for earls mss, which was as maeratoes Every species of provisions had &lieu I. price full sod the rate of the victualling ought at least to Helm reduced in the nate proportion. Why was this , wry demand for vicinellieg mode, except to cover Asplethieg itopeoper ? If be reunite/A in that place till tee teisileek tomorrow wonting, he pledged himself wet to allow the grant of a shilling of supply, sonless the Minix. • lee agreed to furnish the particulars of vacs.. estimates. He would persevere ia Oho instance, fur he bad just ex perienced hew little was to be gained by giving say.— (Longtime mid cheers.)—This was the time fur a rigblecre. limy late every article of the expeodlier, llt's was the time when She tattoo was suffering from the pressure of &Were, to use the utmost exertiun to check the im provident' waste of She public money.—(Hear, her)— He admitted that the navy had, geneually speaking, • never been under better manegement than meal tint war; but he considered the expenses to fat toe great. Since 1816 the exneuses for built dug and repairing ships alone was in tot a l 17 ink lions. Why this a mou nt ? S u r e ly he r e iris enough expense for all the building of ships in all the navies of Europe.' If Honourable Gentlemen doubted what he stated, he had the particulate for each year ready and would slate thern.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.)—This was contrary to the opinions given by the Committee •of Finance. They observed, that at the expiration, said for a few years after the war• the expenses of • building and repairing would be increased ; but, -that afterwards when the ships were put in proper , order, a great reduction night be expected. On this item, and on that of wear and tear, no reductions had been effected equal to what might have been expected. There was now no war, no expentsg',' for wear and tear as in the blockading. antl. l l cruising. of the late war. The service was now 'ilised entirely pleasurable, summer sailing and •aeliting.—(Hear, hear, hea r, from the Ministerial - aide.)—Such. he hoped, was the general nature of the present atm service, and he hoped that it was hMt attended with such difficulties as the blockading of • French fleeti, the Texel, Lyons, and others, which. • belonged to the operations of the war, or the main- •fold and dangerous services in the Indian seas, as in., 1792. The a ships were admitted to be now in es- , cellent repair, and why keep so great a number of vessels afloat beyond what were wanted ? In 1792 the wear and bur was 640,0001., what reason fur it' being more now?—He came to the 4th and last part . of the estimates upon which he would touch. The • ordnance services for the navy were estimated at 98,520/ Mr. WARD said that they were reduced. 10. 81,0001., being a deduction el Is. per mon. Mr. Hums wt.bed to know when the chores. were entered. There were no returns, and yet there had come to ,his knowledge particulars of an • expenditure of 20,000/. Which he could no where . find in the accounts. He had formerly mentioned' some particulars relating to the borough of Queen borough, and he was told that the expenses to which he had referred would be found under the vote for sea services. There were 32 vessels hired under the heed of ordnance craft, of various di mensions, said to be engaged in various branches , of the department. It would be found that there were paid for them 20,000/. There were returns for 1,100!. under that bead; but what were these : craft engaged in ? Why, pleasure parties; in carrying A. B. C. np the river; here a Clerk of she Cheque, and *owe a Storekeeper, each with his 'tarty. The Committee of Finance, page 96 of their Appendix, objected to float ing rusgssines, and also to the keeping of ordnance craft, instead of biting them as all other craft, and as transports were hired for occa. lions which required them. I'owder kept in float ing magazines was subject to damage, and could if so case be used without being first lauded and *ruined. To what purpose then keep powder in testing magazines, except while ships were re fitting, and going in and out of dock ; instead of which large establishments were kept up against the direct advice of the Committee, and as iu the eases of all other Committees, the recommenda tions were wholly unattended to. Five or six of these vessels were the property of corporators of Qaeeoborough. Some of them measured 17 tons, sod no more, Upon that fact he had been cou tradicted, astd was told the lowest was 30 tons. The return contained one vessel entered as 20 tons, 'which, all things considered, came near enough. tie would undertake to prove, let the papers be granted, that the craft was of lower tonnage than 20, and the annual charge for her was 3911. The duty was not enough to employ her hands fully one day in a month. Th er e were two or three others ru gged under circumstances not, so favourable . ; . but 'the Qatenborough vessels engaged 11 3 . hands, assetere-mates sod men, of whom 74. were freemen of the plai t . Th ere were n ine . bOys besides. Esti mating them IL per diem tell of them r -hired 'Gem Qaeenbnrough), ate emitifil fltblilliflitOttl he 3,1111.54 One half of thie was, to be'.4;gltltred 88 .... .. _ illt clettigetplt. There sees to his oaths ksegit two if BM thee* vessels which bad been Iyhig with . ' 4 esthete op board for kee ',Ake gellelLlMM edi thl, libli .wrf, at.ee expense of.lllo. a duty. We • . re teed to vote 81,0001. an ordained laitirice fbe the .set s when so mach of it was employed for other pliVileur. Re Milli( Ittef Appeared to the erratrary4lo,lll/01: ..old liiisniaili eahogla for tee occasion He had berm misted by ma lion. Illem&" for sot kno*lng much of Ike ma seriire; he wised that liedid set, .he bum eammegt hawses to Bidet Vel 4114 the estimates wanted caplets's/oe. .Bet; when dm Dolts alember talked of Ida believing .lt poseible le gut oldeted three/egged Mool,.Cluodclici, vas it poseible Opt pey, niea could ba !append ,giavely to get op yid repose 18 that Rotiee dint the subject ans eat yOrtle hie ad . ties! *There was abundance of sesnoneltiesi , in- /sere ,Ige a wet er twenty years, yet weir they expeeding 10001. a-year.lisibeeneeefecture of gttupowder.. Helms nut aware if the establishetenta at Waltham and Feverekeini were yid reduced, beestiMMMemleames were not yet on the. table. He *veld proliam.thit got one shilliag sitoeld be voter) mitil the returns is *Vail were laid as the lab's. He did not wish to give unser...eery 'rouble., He would have every item be objected to properly considered. He was not sup who wished to cripolei dm legitimate power of the °mien. He would rather uphold it, and he would do it by streagtb. *Meg the aiwy. He regretted that the policy was to smoke It • military instead of a naval country, . He preferred Ai* le barracks and military' establialieneets. Ours wee earn,. Vally a civil government. The nation depended wand, roe Its glory sad honour we its navy, which had resided it * 1;117a preponderance in Europe. Both reel*" Mso well, but he gave the preference to thk inure .blefftienate an, of the Raffaele power—ber litirl. ' Rd isidelld reduce the excessive military estableshmeets i . he wield reduce the marines, the keeping up of which branch bad caused the actual number of seamen employed to MA to 13,000. If it were necessary, he would even vote 2,000 more gramme, hut ao more marines. They were too much le the nature of a military guverament. He nerved for re. ideas in detail, of the manner is which 73;77b1. acre to be expended on the employment of seamen and 'marines, the fislituishing the aunt - bee of officers and seamen, sled the otE. errs and privates of marine*, also their several dames, rates of pay, and allowances,•with other particulars of each claret. Mr. CROK Eli would be slow to oppose any motion fur Inquiry upon important subjecis which seemed to deemed le, but the Hon. Gentleman could out satisfy the Hoes* that Ministers had thewn any disposition to withold papers which were really needed. It was the first time, amoug the myriads of papers moved for by the Hon. Mealier, any had been re fused. He would sheer chat the papers in this motion w ool) not be refused on light grounds. He would observe, that to re spect to navy estimates, they had been voted for 160 or 170 year"; yet this was the first time, amidst all the fancies ever al- I leringieto the heads of men, amidst all the wishes sod pro. i jells professed or avowed by parties a that Howse, it was lb* first lime such a motion bad bees made. He said it act to die• garage the Hun. Gentleman, but to skew that there were, l f lll and always bad been, good and sufficient feasting fur with. holding these papers. He proposed to set right some of the mistateareats of the Honourahle Member, or in l his own terms " to speak in metaphorical lauguage"— " blunders." The naval expenditure divided itself chiefly into three breeches :—the first had undergone examination, retiring chiefly to the Oct.± afloat, she sc. live service, the pay sad provisions of the men embarked, tie ships under sail, perhaps noder orders to sad int:nation of duties ou whirl, the destinies of the country &pointed. It might be said this was a less important matter in lime of peace than is time of war. To be sore ; but the principle applied to all times, and more particularly so when, is wee, the expediture being so mooch greeter, the upportunitisa elesec were greater also. The time of war was the must ripper for the exercise of the jealousy of the House on the subject, if ' at all. Tbe mimed branch was the reweave estimates, referring ' generally to those peels of the naval service which were of a civil character. The third was the ordinaries end extraor dinaries, including ?erases of bedding and repairiug, asp& all the various incidental thing, connected with the duck- - yards and the relative establishimeate. In regard to thei latter brioches the lion. Gentlemenn bad not complained' having the fullest details before him. It had bees the practice to faintish theta, because ie these, the offices being chiefly civil, the utmost jealueiry was proper to be exercised over than by the House. There could be no injury to the public eereiro from knowing what was done iu England ; but there was greet danger as to the Beet oiliest in lettiug the uses and destination be kimono *synch England to all the people of Europe. The Hou. Gentleman talked of the expenses of provisions, taking the standard of Leadenhell, or some other of the . Lo'll4lon markets. lie was temioded 'that thrice were foreign 'lethal'. tie' admitted it, but then - he said we might send out our cheap provisions to them. Did the Hon. Member know that the prices of provident* differed not only as to Ragland and foreign stations, but the lortigestations differed from each other *that respect: What would be the situation of the country if a fleet eve* not be permitted to go to sea until all the details of her equipmeet and the destination were in foil descripliuts be. fore the House. The Hon. Gentleman said sevesient mil lions had beets expended on building and repairieg ships since 1817. He world give the Honourable Member all the papers in the world if be would prove that. It was, in his metaphoric language, blendering—.r, rather, nonsense—that was the word. He had mistakes stone for wood—land for water—storehouses for ships—build- Mega for sailing ship., fleets fitted out. He would state his reason for attributing this error. If the House would look over the expenses of houses, msgaxines—of dock-yards and extraerdivary weeks—including Plymouth Breakwater, which was itself a million, they would find the amount to be 17 millions as rear as possible. But as to Molding ships, he did not wish to be trusted. He had, by good for tune the 'comets since 1817 in his hand. He would read •ever the particulars of each. He wished the Hos. Gent, to correct him as he went on.—(Mr. Hume—" I will.")-- The expenses of betiding and repairing ships in 1817 was 1,391,0001—(MT. Flame, " 1,760,000/."J—Mr. Croker said be had the book. The grand total was 1,130,0001. foe the year 1818 ; 1819, 1,144,000/. ; 1820, 1,142,0001. Here were the areousts fur five years, not rising up to two millions a year, and yet there were seventeen millions expended is Wiliam drips.—(Loud cheers from the Ministerial side.)—Serely dos was hriuging the notate to ninepence. The total a( these sums was 5,900,0001. Now as to the wear and tear of the fleet onset, he could not conceive it necessary for the Hoe. Gentlejnan to Bend more pa pers,or that the House would wish him to have them to illuminate his own understanding ef the ease, which, by the way, might be an operatioa of same the. ashy. He talked of the pleasant nature of the servier.—did he forget the wear nod tear of Mamie energy sod &media tions in the Channel, in keeping down sniuggliug, a genie. as arduous as any in the war, the good effect* of *bleb ware discernible in the increase of the revenue. The Hula. Mem ber forgot hie geography also ; he had made nu accusal of the alediterr aaaaa and the service off Soria Ault:etc+. H. might be told that there was uo groin there without drab. hug Cape Horn or the Cape of Good Hope. If be did know it before, thin some of the pleasure and yachting parties which he bad described, could be uo other than those who had sailed round Cape Hurn. He had turgotlea another considerable branch of service—the prevention of the Slave Trade off the coast of Africa. He understood the lion. Member to describe tbo.e services as partite* of pleasure sailing. He had no wish to misremeeret. ' —(Hear, hear, hear, from the Opposition side.)—He re. ferred more particularly to the words used by the Has. Gentlemen. He went on to skew that the Hoe. ilifilair sou 'utterly onstake a as to his view of the expellee* or the marine corps. He (Mr. Hume) haven 'secluded all the law/ charges of the marine corps, such as clothes, beer, lam ' racks, &c.—ebarges not included in the item, which he bad notwithstanding, deducted from the charge of gement, tied thereby left cooly t 50,000/. for that charge. The Hon. Geutlenian had declared in favour of sesame above marines. Evilly there, was no pleasing wane people; (oversaw( were loudly praised two years ago for preteens% marines. They were a vital as well as an jettiesl pert of the suety. &awe were termed for three years—marines for life. There was the daemon* between a short sad a Wag lease. Thew as to the economy, the inferior materleii— he seamen were at 701. per ass, the marines at ldf. The ' were at 41. per me pee arnmalb, frellt 3 lo 17 l ot .Li aid the siipplirs teeter IL, paean. No; there were two amillsons gives upfront 'Melo lit rival expresso. The Button Weald be steeples.' to fa the trifileg Meryl** bet*.e. sell sod IHM, the prises or orobiaisto sad the ittreelie of MN pas emtaideued. le tic.t yedr.theie *era altogether • weer lie topples hie nivel estimates foraisbed (lacladllig the naval deist Mei eel for the year) from other sages*. The Hssos,able Rift algiiid 1101lliall searreit,O t y ordnance services for the navtit Met wbieb he said the A d . mirsity 'bad uo coutiol.lhoe the Home eif Catboat. had. H A antisght tite..osress bad.beartiattthiacto Maitre them te stay goiag,leta flaol.llmmithm„ where dispirited... 9 em!A bfbittdeisb"9 10. 11 0 4 0 0 .14" hifidelf, Nitta* ilea.tiaat The How. limber hod eissoliWised this year as he did the last, on the apipnialierit of tumuli Olen' is Cohorts and Graerals of marines.. He. ( rstilet) After heard if sat one but Ike Hoc Metlyber who thmsglet of this is of sot thing bet a beset of atom brumes the two services wt... ought to be avaletainedi; hot he would sot alone J. fend it ea the narrow giNswod of utility, but as e pat ut the humor surd dignity of the awry, as a mess to eiratite hi. :Oriel - 4y to reesettelistiagellaited ...It. not by place or petisioe, but by phbetag the 011eers at tbe head of ikase golleat •Inew wham they had beams led to broom. mild sir. wry. This reward was dimented viamest too n ag tklicere used eight. or Oise heueliel Ceptaiew, and roe sided of three Gem rale mid Gam Goleaselk and th e ' ,h i & amounted to ai; or were lboossad pooodm Zoe the Homotrable Member woo jealous Jest had mea should he placed on the list. He would Hoe now what be mooed last year. The olarlog Novel Officers at the hem o f lb, Ilialita• was a prettiest re-exiseeni will the tarps its e lf which •as formed from fie army, the Colonels of int. mews beitsg.lf hemlgliesorepress lamesfrodeemaiste. It Was thought more consunant to the view with which she imps was formed Iliatt of changing the soldier tato a sari.) that meal offices. Moult/be at its head. If she Heel, hest. bee could Induce the House to change this, be wool elm change the whole of she system reepemiag Colonels is she army t NW, should he prevail oa the Hoene to do the lathe, h e (Mr. croker) thought the warier• evoold be se ex ception, and naval *Sheri would still reasie at their head. The linsoarablet Member would ray thus might he very tree, but you will or may place bad men ohm. It could Out be tedious to the Home to hear a lit of Ste ono a of one whom all their lives they bad as. emitted with every thileg homorable. The Arm was Ad. taint Baseswea, the neat Admiral Jobs Forbes. lord Ames, Admiral Barrington, Lord Bridoort (last sod Usk slight he held it), the Earl of St. Vioteni. These ewe the game* atilt the Generals of Matinee, and he should like to see if from that any one could refer a clutter from the appointment of had mi. The !ie./Hewitt Ceurrals were Sir Charles Sanders, Sir Hugh Palliser, air Thaw Pee, Ea. I St. Vincent, and Lord Brsiiport. The Major. Generals were I ord Cardoer, Lord Coll •newood, Sir Riclesd Bickerton, Sir George Hope, and 'esti'', a same •li•ch he pronoonced wills more than ordinary pleaessre, Sir Geroge Gockburs. So far Gong any j.alowy, their gas not one of them names which had not had osmium orders, peerage, and dignities las hilted on them, sad tie believed sot owe that had net received the thsuks sf the late Speaker of that Home. Yet the Hooossabk Me mber fixed his Sager of reforms, and stigmatized as a blot, what was but me mar in the bright galaxy of our sant glory. He -(Mr. Crukrr) thought he bad said mem% to induce the House logo lain • C.otamitiee on this subject, which was %II he asked. la the Committee he should be able to give the Hoseurable Member every ladseamtles, sot that be intended to say he shs,ul.l satsly the How. Member, God forbid he should entertsiu so monstrous • amino but he *c o uld this give km some little inform/Hie% wirch, lout satisfactory, some Honourable Member Might move to report mortals, and ask leave to sit again. If she Hoe. Newbrr 'bad a case of abase ma'ie at, he c. vainly ought lobate every information afforded him, but what he objected to was his taking she whole aff•irs of the nosy Mt* hit owe hands, for the chalice of discovering Same abase, sites Met setting she practice of lb. 11001te arid the Conssitatimasd introducing hie new mode of proceeding. fit used the ward Coosibutim, beesuse, in feet. the bomber oftwee to be employed iii she navy was .a muter of such delicacy that It was always settled by the Him in Cownc.l, loathe me of seamen is that House was therefore always made sot sa esilmwe, but I. coalideace. The practice of diadmare, recommended by the How. Meads. r, would be incerverien in time of peace; but in time of war, if followed, there would be au end of the naval power of Great Belittle. Mr BENNETT mill, that from the speech of the Rm. Gentleman opposite it might be imagined that his Host. Friend (Mr. Hesse) was asking fur something see. He thought be could "hew that if ever any one found a ° were" nest" it was the Hon. Gent. opposite. Ills Grit proposals" was that there was great novelty in the proceerliag, sad that the itemiser of seamen had always been voted in ceelldnrre; Wok what bed been the result of that system of coaddeate. Look at the amisont of the debt and taxes creased by this system. This was owe of the articles of the tadietmeat agents& the House of Commons, that t►ey had sulikred the Ministers to take the public motley without intro/ sad without neceseity. Why had the How. Genders's directed the serves of his wit (the sharparse of which both is that House mid elsewhere were well brume) sgainat hie He.. Friend? may for 'savior exposed mot laid hare that system. He thought the House would be misled by the speech dile Hon. Geollentan ; be should t►erefore wish use moths, of his Hun. Friend might be read, and the Howse would thee see what it was that be wished to have. The SPEAKER having read the intendment propmed by Mr. H o me— Mr. BENNET!' resumed. The lion. Centimes had es. desvoured to shew that it would be a great ineonvealetwe u the public service, though there was a similar Report is 1818. and t►at too for t►e cermet service of that year, ad not for past service, —(The Hon. Menthe" here referred is the Report in queetiou.l—Thos, what was now asked far was then published, end no question et all made of lams 'faience to the public service. Duriwg the war there me no objection to shew the general distrthotina of the arms. yet for this his Hon. Friend was an - treed almost is rt. press term", of wishing to spread disorder and dismiss a the miry, yet there was no min in the Howes who had a higher value for ►heir services—not their jobbing, but their public services. BIr.CROIL ER explained. He could mare the 1106 €e'I' ble Gentleman that be had never out of that House no* the slightest allusion to either himself or the I,loosrable *ember for Aberdeen. The argument of the ttonotnt* Gestlemon (51r. Duyvil) applied to ooly one mots*, whereas there wereifeir motions, sad the omit befuse the House was the idelle wLetiouable of any of them. The Douse theettileaded, when there For the sammilmeet Against it Majority . ito On our return to the gallery we found Mr. CA LCRAFT es his legs, ingesting the proy , h l 7 of 1111116 messore respecting ionise °Meets. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER slid a les words aeren the table, which were inaudible is she Geifell Mr. HUME then rose to submit a motion le the How He said the Hon. Gentlems• (Mr.. Croker) bad asswered,e , attempted to answer his speech; headset which had bees sv• slimed was never stated by him (Me. Haste) ; sad that wig he had attempted to answer was altogether • nstasercio• He begs% i• a sesame which, be thought. se eat would err be (Mr. Hume) deserved. k was said that be wished to d:r• tale to the Howe 6 hut bow may one enoW be mid to ill , - late to the Homo, who proposed a memory, sod ev dew/oared to persuade the House to agree with he knew col. Closed any mow do his duty to that Hew without so dictaliag, if Nisi were dictation !—(Hear, beer't He hail laid • Parhomestacy groood for his motio n ; lie i's" obeys that 1,700,0011 f. was asked mom, mita 1,b00,000f its. l bees sufficient at a former period for the wore service. It was amid that impleaatiess would be gigot is the Gov , - Mo ; but hr said No, and whatever might be the dd eruli." sf Illse intellect of the Hen. Member (Mr. Croke.), lie 11.07 aim to understood the accounts as Nullified. TM Re". Member had talked of the dagger of exposure, brit WOW' How) had *ever wished or asked to tool , bee the sots were employeil—ell be had asked was, WWI • *WI as, 0 , his optima, the Meow would not do its duty if slit! were mot to have. got lilt' Ibe Hooesiable , creetii if the duce. ko 19, Sir frau meat hero( Oa Ilea, pear,. at an t the eat meat 1 these Wok i their fel et al the lbe mu dir ( the es wade • the i.e man (I for no eirq opinion. F Wel VI cow Id im Nir:i Iklr. Hu Ma c tekes 11 Seceunt, M►. meet. to tat. thes e 'lifted I iititry, 1 excess c Mr: we. 10 iii, rte s„ the e . !tit that say sialenteut is correct ?"--1“ Yes !" from idniiithy tikett, %/Awn lift (ilt. C,), is Ilita the Treasury Bench.) —1 hold in my hood the it. Woo f& in s Sill which placed at tbgahopeirelfof tern from the Admiralty 0111ce.—(Crtea of ' Mime, the . Ailetirotlif •OW Plabeli It ON &WO 61 t he i. eme !') —which I request the Clerk easy reed."-. purism* of Whit At 110w4 lei psitaquus to the iti; (Loud cheering.) deMier 4 o4oeffir • 04 , datMtlfld the bAit. thlt.Per 4o /4 The paper being handed to the Clerk, be pm= codbeetei therewith should be Owed a tluesilWy. cm - led to read it ea follows : 'Winters. • itgaltig=s-210011•1411-26•4NP." Jae ...,,.. --b :: -iiii: 811,111111 - AM'. talle,..aalt- Wit. pnwendini. er * iiiiiambilsear a zow.... r speak, when he was isterrepted by the Clanton", ife nemi s terlitle -- 11100 P 0 • • •••• "'v oho sail there twee es before the Coomiillee. Ditto. oagemonemuel of 'IIO,AO rwlfaieta)_ ti . g ript i e *A pore - ~ i berearaledi NMI ta : NOR 1 11 111 1 111 iiiiii• - iiiiiv•ii:rroverrm ....IT' Ali wok " s h, G e „,l„ m „b o k o u s .0 hue. . t .....„ ........,.. ~, .........i„,.,, .. .• . • Ilbf CHAIRMAN Aso poi Ai' iseatiosoi Ma withdraw- ' ' 0 10. 11 ,11 1 441141111 1 1111PJ Wrillwt Continitto4i• he of ille. *nays Aineseateat, whir% woo agrewt N. "The Ifil. ,Msmaher stet tsk the al,inot at •,101001.; Mr. BROUGHA * thasinie, be way rem fibril/ peeps. but I here is eak* H00L 44 .-M . ear. btsr, beer.) or anted the teewiuP d theAdeorelty AO. le Mtoodeo Mr. Fitilta,- 44 Tbe siktriito Payniester of Wi- ot SW (b. .11'..) Moissaeolda /Patrol, els • Naisbee AM Altar- flowe Pensions is 604 ;',the retired ~ pension of a ( a rgattr o h tz.... i nm r if ki l s t amm. " , reed,a the Admirsby. Cotornisoioner o r SteastPl ill 6001—tw ice 6004 it issiea we. right ho hie roomettes of that siotrokeat. _ _ _ 164 " ellill"Lihnetwattlher.lll6:l:llil:o)::ar Csbaste::,:tooffilladaa:t; :111 • o . . the SIM° Ob le 'l lr, 144 ►1 " h pesers l ? hi No: 6 lbrri ;vs * : i i vetill ie s••: li g ni smt . isp b""i 4. 4ll I l b e lle do d ea% 1. k re ' r o th ia .'' " No es sia t o be ki i iikel 44 " ti f tl y4 Ike want espreena. The Helm Weald be sorprieee to gt„l I lad a... 'Olivetti erAlse PO' es 4 .1„,,i,,L the . preileinn mad the iortelie elf 'WIC pa emendeeed. le th.l heil isi. i r d, arl ir i tilvr . - 7, - ,.. yetethei e *ere alladether • met the suppfes fee ordained ' s e tike r i i. t i t . otto N seta! estimates fermsbed tiecledieg tie Mod dale Melt reel ,pinged for alma rhVas . ms. Prie. for eke year) from "thee soiree& Tie Reneettem eesh „4 9tetrary4lo,llool: weiiM biliniefy . abillait liiiffitell Me' Irtiiiii'm Pesitiiiiin • leareetaii - t C; a le had berm misted by se lion. ordnance services for the meth seer widek he said the 4 4. erh of the ites seriire •he wilted 0-Ity ..silk h .,.... di a d .. bui 44 , He thought tke..tteess bad.beard_nothiacta entire then to w Isambria. .Bat silo lbw flue.: "1 Ir 6i ffEhhitIPIOSAINIIStiv ;Worn the gertindwr. caosE !tin/ .I; poseible t• gir : tu estgetyal I .7.butiohaso! Vold tbolrralikaaelf auvlll4 liers.tibof ;,.., sea it ... i v. I t ti a .di t i gg o be Hue. Mem bed tumpWitieil thie year as he did die tip a el „'" to .. t r-,-, eyed t i rs p oso it last, es the aPjnielmetit or aunt eau' to Celeeet s e ',„l ')lcii:'.-:°ftelelial---;tbile;111:601-111.Pe'9erlill.di4illWgi:elkil".42,a000711-11 Gto tt n ii e e s g fbrlu b let ut iuhPr a beim mlisuir d ibe. or mi.""* .:: between she two moires efies of gnu powder.. lie was nut aware ought to be niiiimaine/E 6 bet he would amt alone ./. fro., r • .11as ildiam sad Fevervinne were yet it as the narrata , trimmed of' utility, but ass past ed Tro tats} were nor y!‘ ott t l e tam e , the lionotte surd dignity of the eery, as a mesa N train v ii it one shilliag should be voted hie Maie'43? to ce "ar erd i es ielf"lahed 61 ° 14 - "o by Place or Teel were laid me the tab's. He did liettSiorar but by pleeiee the Gillum at /be head of ikee •y trouble., He would have every Outlast Anew wham they had bees* led to honour end eh. _ they sly considered. He ma net asp Lary. This reseed was dispersed smoeru, 100 Fl ag r est legitimate power of the Dation. !!leers awl eight. or nine herehol Ceptaim, and rem. of II , and he would do it by streegth. Mated of three Gertrude sad fur Celeeelk and the whole thou !led that the poling was to melte amounted ha sea or were rimmed pounds. ie., t h e ke kval country, . He preferred ettliin Hounrable Member woo jealous Jut bed mem should i.e drew itablishineets. Ours wee ewe- placed us the list. He would Mgt. New what be weed meet The natio. depended snaisity for lael year. The plating Naval Officers at the heed o f want I nary, which had ruithied it li the alarlm• wee a oimeltee re-existent with the w ow par C ! is Europe. Both eerfieu r itself which was formed from the army, the Caikessis of Fee_ per e e. gave she preference id the mews beiug.if he might so express Inmeriff,sluemitiets. It thin . the nation', power—her levy. was thought more consonant In the view with which dm 'eel d Nave military estaidishmesis i. he 1 sups wait fornseid I thet of chsegieg the wisher int*. matiart when the keeping up of which branch that timid office.. ehauletbe at its bead. If the Hee. New. Pool' bee of seamen employed to sat her could induce the House te change this, be mast als* dieted emery, he would emu vote 2,000 change the whole of the sperm respecting Colonels is the Need e marines. They were too much seine i mar, should he prevail on the Hesse to do ibe lathe, the I r government. lle moved for re. be (Mr. evoker) thought the warier• would be all ex- etillis miser is, which '13;77b/. erre to be eeption ' and band tilliceis would still remain at their Mope nt of mown and mariner, obi- head. The liosoarable Illeusbrr would ray this might he of Sit officals mud seamen, and the oil. • eery tree, bet you viii or may piece. bed men there. td ed a, she their several dames, much . It could not be tedious to the House tu hear a IQ the is lb other particulars of each clerk , ' ed the nee a of men whom all their lives they hod a, bat h e slow to oppose any matte. Sir . seelated with every thieg heemerable. The h est was A d. she G objects which seemed hi drill a' ' _mired Boas-awes, tb• neat Admiral Jana Forties. Led :t e ; could out satisfy the Howse HA Await, Admiral Berringeen, Lord Briep er t (la s t sa d l eek o ',position to withold papers whet% , nOght he hold it), the Earl of St. Viotent. lima use Meet the first time, animist the myriads I the asses of all the Generals of Matisse", and he s h ou ld quest Hon. Mealier, any bed beeik rii... like to see if front 'het soy one could refer a Je erer b oo be kit t the papers in this million would ; the appoimmeol of had m... The f i s ese t eoso t c e ,„„ et , swept Inds. He would observe, that to re'-were Sir Chattel Sanders, Sir Hugh Pallise r , Si r Th um the wl ry had been voted for 180 or 170 • Pee, Ea.l St. Vincent, and Lord 11r.elport. The Major. the cs me, amidst all the fancies ever en- General. were 1 ord Gardeer, Lord Coll •nawood, Sir flicked Ur, retries i, amidst all the wishes and pro- Bickerton, Sir George Mope, and lawq, a tameol.,h . ly parties is that Howse, it was the he pronoseeed with more *m I o than ordinary ore, Sir abec able.le I 1 bees made. He said is wet to di.- Geroge Goekburs. So far Gam any j, alo o iy, throe pas 1 rh ,,,, 04 u s but to sbew that there were, not one of theme names which had not had intisines, ' „ I t iv o and sufficient remains for with. orders, peerage, 4•4 dignities lasished as Them. sod the i thin I. proposed to set right s o me believed set one th.t had ne t received she thinks id' from the Honourable Member, or inj She late Speaker of that H. Yet the Hortooshle Meng) k in 'metaphorical language"-11.niber fixed bin Seger of reform, and stigmatised am abler, it expeo d s t ore c h e w e d itself what was bet one user in She bright galaxy of tier weal ,es :—the first had undergoes fiery. He -(Mr. Coster) thought be had said eseingli to I was • • 1 • 1 7 - 11: rat pa-. tfly to the O,et afloat, the se. Dietice the House So go Min • Committee en We abject, „ oe s„w w , o f th e me i , embarked, which was all he asked. In the Comedic, he should be could I • under or d ers s o sod in t imati o n able to give the Hoseurebte Member ee, re indwietatisa, wet Arse lattice of the cuu•try demisted. that he intended to say he shnuld sat.ify the His, Huber, the Ili less important matter is lime of God forbid he should enterteiu so monstrous • settee ! bet T o b e sere ; but th e principle he Could thee give hem some little informatics", wit•ch, if sot lure particularly so when, is wee, sal jab con, mope ficeourehle Member 'Mich, nievetereport itch greeter, the upportionitise Profteesh m u ant oak leave to sit again. If she H. Nombre 44. 1 me l i mo (' wee w as the mu s t rop er had • ease - of abase mate . et, he c. vainly ought lo ba l e usy of the House on the subject, if every information afforded him, but e hat he objered to Ilir se the wreove est i ma t es , re f r , r s ok was his 'skier the whole affairs of the nay isle kis owe voted, the naval service which were of a hoods, for the chance of discovering some abase, darever- Mr. I was the{ ordinaries and mano r - seititig the practice a the Hosed and the Conailleline,aini site, wk it of Wilda. and repairiug, aid. intreducing his new mode of proceeding. H e no g eke sews to connected with the dux k-• weed Coesibition, beteuse, in feet. )he bombers/Cases le be Would lablishimeem. In regard te the. employed in She navy was • a muter of such delicacy that seeding Gentlemen had not ceseplatordi It •as always settled by the King in Coined, sad the vete if they before him. It had bees the of seamen ie 'het House wu therefore *leap wake salsa ',trend ecause is these, the offices being estimire, but is milldam,. The practice of diselesare, sisters, "tuns; woo proper to be exercised recommended by the H. Meatier, would be inceaverieni He sho t [here could be no injury to the in iime of peace; but in time of war, if f o ll ow ed, th ere 19,0410 fig what was done is, England ; would be ars end of the naval power of Great Britain. esonsber •as to the fleet afloat to letting M r BENNETT sa id , that from the speech of the Iles. duce. Iperform e Icemen throngh England to all G ent l eman oppos i te i t might be imagined that him Hoe. fern,. e Hots. Gentleman talked of the F r ie n d (Mr. Heave) was setting for something aew. He so 19,0 f rng the standard if Leettenhell, thought he could she. that if ever any one found s " ewes Sir C ion markets. lie was teiniDdid nest" it was the Hon. Gent. opposite. His Ord prepares' ions. tie' admitted it, but then erns that there wait great novelty in the prommlisg, and Met induced At the 1 it our cheep pros Woes to them. the itemiser of acmes had always been voted in evildoer; for the ow that the prices of proviskies look whet bed bees time result of that system of reeddeete. conspell and and foreign stations, but the Look at the easeent of the debt and taxes errata by this frees set n each other in that regret? What system. This was ewe of the articles of she Mahlon . if the cuuutry if a fleet mould against the House of Commons, that they had mina wes l th the her ad . sea nail all the details of her Minato" to take the public mosey without inessery and WO sea, s ttou were in fell descriptors be- with ou t neceseity. Why had the Hue. Gendeesse dueledpeaee. 1 . Grnslemas said sevemeest mit. the strews of his wit (the shasparsa of which heath ie that stall tit on building and repair's; ships House mid elsewhere were well femme) sgainat his Hos. the ease give the Honourable Member Friend? ealy for havier ex wed asil Saud here that system sent cot red if be would prove that. It He thought the House would be misled by the speech of the leguage, blendering—er, rather, Hen. Geollenian ;be should therefore wish use motion of Sir IS rood, lie had mistaken stone his H u n. Frieed might be read, and the Hewn weuld this fallen fn ,_storehouse. for ships--beild. see w h a t i t was th a t b e w i s h e d t . • have. Mr. B marin its fitted out. He would stele The SPEAKER having read the intendment proposed by forall es this error. If the House would Mr. Home— il ouse., magaxisses—of dock-yards Mr. BENNETT resumed. The lion. Condemns had ea. is 1817 including Plymouth Breakwater, deavoure.lie sheer that it would be a great istronvesleace o the Gum they would find the amount to the public service, though there was a similar Report is tem. T 1 possible. But as to building 1818, and that ton for the cermet service of that year, oil en* is try. It trusted. He had, by good for. not for past service.. —[The Hon. Member here referred la ten Pros 17 in his band. He would read the Sevin in queeriou.)—Thus, what was new asked for wee, that as s, lie wished She Hos. Geod. to was then published, and no que s tion it all made of lone t hi 1 Vii —(Mr. Hume.—" I wilt.")— ve n i e nre t o the p u blic s e r vi ce . Disease the war there me hat is, ,ed repairing ships in 1817 was ne objection to shew the general distribetion of the tut, en fermi ' 1,760,000/."J—Mr. Crofter said yet for this his Hon. Friend was itereeed annual is ei• these eal I total was 1,130,000!. for the year press terms, of wishing to spread disorder and disgust a leek into 1820, 1,142,000/. Here were the the wavy, yet there was no man in the littliell who had a Illeeehes. rising up to two milieu • year, higher value for their services—not their jobbing, but their their pro , n million.' expended is building public services. fah carrel • al the G. the Ministerial slik.) — derel7 lll " )ii r. CROK Ell explained. He could assure the Woes* the maim a ninepence. The total e( those M e Gentlennie that be had never out of that House ands Sir G. i ✓as to the wear and tear of the th e s li g h tes t &minion to either himself or the I,lmtourable the esti,' onceive it Deaconry for t he dot. Member for Aberdeen. The armament of the Hearesiable "nude of I pers,or that the House would wish Gestate's" (Mr. Beset!) applied to noty eve motif% the were, nate his own understanding .1 t h e wheicas there wereffsie motion% mid the owe befoie tie man (Mr. 0 1 be an operative of "sem 48 ' House was the leentztlionable of any of sheet. for they • casein nature of the service—dld The House then , when there appeared— man seeps r of human energy sod mastitis. For the sammilmast eping down sniuggliug, • writhe Against it ir, the good effect* of • hicb wore -- USN la ta of the revenue. The Hun. Ilea- Majority lee ;he had made mu scomet of o n our re ,„,.„ 10 the gallery we c eeed 4119,000 f 1 service off South Atm'. tee. He Mr. CA LCRAFT es his legs, wigged* the PrePh l7 Mr. CI as uo genii% there without dutsb- of sums mesa,. 'expecting inns , °Meets. f file Mow ape of Good Hope. If be did The CHANCELLOR of the EXCVEQUER slid a kit babied °ea to of the pleasure and yachting words twins the table which were inaudible is the Gvii n v takes Is i , 'crib" , could be 11° other than Mr. HUME then row weenie to submit • le the Hose account. I Cape Horn. He had forgoforgotten He said the Hon. Gentleness (Mr, Croker) bad sernreffic" Mt. HE h of service—the prevention of attenuated is answer hie speed'; battling which hail be t e ss- meet. As oast of Africa. He understood sawed was sever staled by him (Mr. Howie); sad that which Secretary tribe Ibm.e services as parties b e b e d attempted r e tweeter oer a lt o gether • sitstairwee l • te take e , Shea , Ges Ye (Mr. Hume) deserved. le was said that be wished to 4:e . "toed C., I had the O n p o p lv os is it h ion to si E de i !) " — P H fi r re t ; to the words used by the Hem late to the Homes beat bow may one coeld be snit to " . nueryoBl He begs% i• imitator which, be thought. we eta weeW so to "hew that the Hoe. Member late te the House who prepared a mesure, sod es' ,: excess of I o his view of the eaPeeeea a She deavoured to persuade the House to agere wick his, • Mr. CR use) harialt luelailed 11l the laud he knew not. Could any w Horne do his duty la lisa Horne Dealt. t o rps, such a. clothes, beer, la tr. w i t h out so dietalieg, tithed were dictation?—(Hear, beer , 43, k050/. I eluded in the item, whirl he bad H e hail laid • Parhamemary greeted fur his soutiou . be ~_sh. ti inessoitted from the charge of &mimeo, sod s h een t h at i t een t onge, sew s a te d sow , was lAOO. OOI w it . to N. for that charge. The Mon. k is m a w* " it i s ow , per i od for t h e wise service. It .. glither.pee favour of WM" . abov e °ado's- was mid that espluatiesa would be gives is the Caw s. , " Ms. Mt ' , jag *ow people; Gueerouwee We; bet he said No, sad whatever meta be she ibm e l iet ( he Oben . hies ago fur Preferring anala". of the intellect of the Hen. Member (Mr. Croher),_ _lle „_.- .' . The gge . an " 1111 ' 1 p an a the ba i l. an p moo te undersisied the secounit as (masked 1 lte n; . tee res i o of three years—marines for life. Member bad talked of the dagger of exposure, MS le (_7,,. nue4 r - t ri tr i o ' beler"ll a " eel ••d • 1 "11 Hew) lad *ever wished er asked lis tem , bow th e e " 1 0 ' ?Ma A r eal county, lbe inferior meterleii— will , . . eaplsyed—ell b e t ee d w k o • n u, such • deta il lie ItgA A were at 41. per ilas Fit mouth, were sot to have. But thee ik Hootsata ?tie fy ii Per mass the Ifloilles Id dliw his opuses, the House would nut do its du tyi 51 . 1 % .1 , 1 :c. . 11 • 4 1WIte'fly t • .....„ . _ . • ... , COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. i ,rye j ( v } I S The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for the House going into a Committee of Supply. Sir N. W. RIDLEY observed, that he had given sotiee of a motion for Thsrsday the 7th March, relative to the Loris of the Admiralty, sad as it was uoderatood that the nary estimates were to be immediately proposed in the Casmsnit. t ee , is ihatopset of the sohject which was connected Ilia! Ilia motion. he could make some amendments to the sumo pro posed to be voted to tin. Loads of the Admiralty, if lbw* mas not as ad, (plait reducti , n. Mr. B ERNA L said, that he bad an 'mitotic. abiallat purl of the .übjert came lobe disewned, to proprara sob& lion of the six Lords of the Adrairalty.—(ilear,baar) As Haaoorable •Mearlsrr under the gallery add a *Re words, which were inardible. The - CHANCELLOR of she EXCHEQUER observed. tbat with respell to the reducriuu of the salaries of isferior clerks, it would tate place under • Bill of Superssuustioris. sod the soperior officers were to suffer s reduction of 10 per cent. order as order of the king is Caoed. Mr. HUME said be thought lb* House ought not to go isle the Cirouwitsvie, used it was Waisted with the fullest iirfuresstirto as to the perikelaie of the seiimaies which they were to be called ott to cute. to the ,Coatioittre so the wry estimates, o rule would be proposed is for lion, 01 . 1,711,0001. for wages, victualling. ordinary. sod weer sell ef the - for the - 11117. Noble NU to question happened to be returoed Irma the tear of the *awn ion the carrearyeee. flit, the N o me ' mannethem at IL per diem NI Of them w rre hired t per asaa. The minims • Mee Was site, MITI