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is _ LONDONDERRY believed that • - s3 4pr iee h se the end Learned Gentle * to be. ' •,. ''.. ReflittON OF TOR RIOT ACT. '.lolertiettre t. . net !f a mote the for p Trion s .. - l itho. L nod 11) Gess. 111. whit": Wiles* . • ere' much ineentessience . hind tke. wesphl give the noise 'sample, : 111 the het Spring AeAtes at Ringiton there were recovered rimier theses Acts by parties io rieparate seilOirs on the mimic eines te if epj. 'N. Si. Now Hs. cost. -w teal the dismegell" menooted to 1,1061. ' At the Amities at Corsdon parties recovered under s Borne. Acts, 'lt'lliiir act io ns, 71. 6.. sd. with cam 131,. Ga. bd.' Te thought hl i stg4.,oo,len pep tit present to sand his note* - d i lli ; • # Mr. E. W liseause presented a r the 'Eastern' Division of the Isle 9 0 . vy.,. coult tog of agricultural distress. . 1 , . Mr. MEDIAN prevented a Petlthe from R. G. Nutt, who was in prison is illy, for a libel Oa the Noble Marquis opposite,.and having staid hi Vote out, brought* actions against Sir N. Consist for committing him, and against the keeper for de. tsioing him. The actions, with a subsequent arise recut on them, went against the Petitioner, the costs being 15*. He had now been two years, after his 5 tst...itopeloontneat elapsed, in Whitecrowstreet Iniellefet Wove costs. , as thought it hard to be keptAtestin fur costs a actions against parties whose (Mr. Butt) believed to be indemnified for 1 ' rift of law expenses thereupon. It was wipe tit had been intimated to him that if he 4 Olen • claim the benefit of the Insolvent Act the Liwds of the Treasury would not object to it ; but Juthimself thought it objectionable, when, from his ptotricted imprnonment, he had such good reasea to believe thee he had suffered es much punishment as was due to his offence. The So LICITOI-GINIKAL could not see that Mr. Heti had soy good reason to complain, especially after the ionesstion that he was at liberty to claim the benefit of the Insolvent Act. If he was able to pay the costs, he ought to be made to pay them, as the just punishment of his conduct; if not, liiii re needy win prepared for him. Mr. Meese, hoping that full consideraties would be given to the case by the Treasury, con sented to withdraw the Petition. Mr. it. Cociteuee wished to /mow 'bet-trigs iltVe was in the report of proceedings said to hate been had yesterday in the Vice-Chancellor's Court between the Duke of Bedford and the Trustees of the British Murton'? Mr. Ba st KES said, that in the society of the Tilt*. tees to build convenient rooms for better preserving the valuable property of the Museum, some dif. ference arose between . the partiee, and it was re. /erred for minable decision to the Court of Equity. The Souci TOR-GEN Etat. said, that it was only a frlesidly atilt between the Duke and the Trustees, to determine their mutual rights, originating from the design of the latter to erect new buildings on the 'itemises, for the purposes described by the Member who had just sat down. Mr. LenItARD altered his notice of motion re specting the Civil List, which stood for to-morrow, to She 27th inst. ORPHANS FUND. Sir CURTIS moved for a Select Commit tee to OZOIIIIIIO ado the state of the Orphaua' Food, the eborgas upon, and the application of the morphs., and report thereof' to the House. Ay. Somoza coraplaioed bat the • HON. *Pe MO WTI this 4111lie0 Old of his hand& 'litlidt llWhig WOO* lb , r • libthe lamb ales - - .4i, . r 411 / 1 1 11 ,Ze ?AS '' • S 11 Inisles4l/9 . asissues Ilibodssit , -. semi amellBBlllllll MUM Ike Commotalillll,BBo62lllwasiglMM ' , .. . _ _ __...... .. ... . . W. Ceiba *lobe seam Tim ileismert New. 011esibee Is* se mew se ds silk 'die it.. liteid .heath -liter timillothest sr ?vises. ; wale temerity he wayllilniber to ,•:eift 'meek motives Met made* o d stq sisibseed te him. It was very fifits temerity. Itemadeis ewaddrtelVhaeli ffeekbto had a mho bi4 l,4 4 , ,,biessese. view by meek: • Mew* .6, by' doweatied% if they - wit i east the vegetate • which am the oebaelli , watriest. . • ..tr. 11.111seresee , liirsdisig the Report% M. Ca SINIMPOIIIM• *B~ aid a glower& ~,, • •,• r •-:,•:.• . •..., ~ • ,• ~. t. .• a b. • • IS aggidijot dies essesd, se .1514 5 t Met des.Csisesitte. , desebd be ilblisehiethibs'Aleabe ImPaillsbebeWl7ll 4edlriselliseed hod los • rtrat.lad OM g ow the statrohet rematithor 'octet ratisfying li tt teMeisis Air ioterret dee to the er • w aporsed as Amend by Aet of Um** to amide, whether. in the • she Orpbeete Femi/ beim. dhe pavane viereseselei the aeattibetere te' - &HMS ew cods mod wipe, wet of whirls she feed oaf cre•tril. ought not to he admitted to there in tit. awaageworste ortioe fund. in addition we the Loft w and Aldermen of the City of'Lmiddik '' omen so a question from blisAliebie-Illis —. Member replotted, that. by tha time of dee avedributote he seam l a wit 1 Peilieseise. . , ! ri The Gallery was thew cleared. bet. etraagere''lMM. eadoded, we orsdenitised tioitV _....5e nos agreed to without isefivisithe SCOTCH BURGH 'REFORM. ' .: ' A. fialitritioir rum to move 4124hefe ri: % El v i l e tio C rt:tretew a e l l 7 2 1.194 I*gepl Altedrome. be fOOOOOll to a Orraustssee ef Ile 1• • • . / I' 7. ' of time that the subject had bees . : ::, med ofter the share which he had k s ISt - . ' deny incumbent ea his to t The petitioners on this iso*efe a 4=l amevnting to fp is bey ; arg ch . , the Seat ei, MAW 11110 11 0,k -' • . a esoi 111 4 0 iliwinOel -- -t. , is • te osibieltibeir rely ad li= is easielsenee; yid if* ems at • imicsegs, of the, ggepplimedee et a revenue adadiard. were mot proper 1148810 fee the couaderedea of that Untwe. he twee skates is imagine where a fifgrileltideet was to beAroMMIL It would he reeelleapd,br the Lammed Lead /the Lord Advocate) thee ,gee,.leat Apo three years ego. ,he (Lord tivithibaid HisOltan) first W.., traduced the subject to the House by pllti.. bone from the burgemes of sixty-eta royal *Mho in Scot laod. The potitioaers were alaviset moil. awn in their 'pities se to the ware if illaa grievances of which they complaioed, ssel.bary seedy so es to the remedy which it weehi g boatleit. able to apply to the The hingoemit 811111.0181 then opposed to his mOt i Oll foe • C• 110 04.1.1 1111 0 i that no ease was made eat for the lotaidbeeeto of that House ; that the petitioners bad ash IpeitteioNem to complain of; and that the Petitions. instead of expressing the wishes and opissibee of the greet body of the bargemen. as they purported. were bet the partial statewide of a few, mad that the motion was intended as • cloak to Parlia mentary Reform. Voold the Learned Lord and his friend. now, with the three Reports lying on the bible before them. continue to bold the same !engorge? His motion was resisted on the grounds which be had just stated, and was rejected. Within a month afterwards he presented 'moth,. Petition, on which he founded a similar motion in different words, which the same persons also op posed, bat failed to carry the House with them. and he was fortunate enough to carry his motion for a Committee, in opposition to the Ministers, and to the Law Officers of Scotland. The Committee appointed au 1819 was broken off by the dissolution of Parliament, and in the next Session was renewed on his motion. The Report of the Committee so revived, which lay on the table, affirmed that the statements of the petitioners were substantially tree and that a case which Galled for redreas had bees; fully made oat. The discussions witich were going on at that time es another subject, in his opinion little creditable hi the Noose. he meant the pro. ceedings relative to the late Queen, put an end to the subject for a period. In the last Session • C 0111.• mines was again appoiuted. in which, yielding to the suggestion of the Learned Lord, Air which lie blamed himself, he task a part, bat soon found bim safe° mock and so malady outnembeied by the friends of the Learned Lord r u to be always is • minority. Bet area the Report of that Committee stated a case which called loudly for a remedy. Thee they had the Reports of three Committees, all agreeing in tbe existence of a sptem of gross !thew which required amendment. and he thought it Am Il•tt tisitiowtseratueta to roll ripen the .Hoove to eeosider of the proper moony for effecting that oh- Jett. The petitioners of 1793, and those of 1819 sad 1821, all eamphined of the same evils; the Reports of the successive Committees all agreed in the existence of these evil,; the burghs hod 110 maws of redress in themselves; the Courts in Scotland had decided that they had no jurisdiction in the c.se, and the Jodges had lamented that they had not the meatus nor the power of affording re. lief; and the remedy which the Learned Lord pro. posed to apply, was a Bill to allow the hurgesses to go to law with their Magistrates. An argument which he considered of more importance than ally he had yet mentioned—more than any thing men. tweed in the Report of the Committee of last year—more than the opinion of the Learned Lord —was the opinion of the Magistrates themselves. • great number of whom admitted, in copse resolu tions framed and put forth by themselvesi that the evils of self-election which formed the ground no which the compla ints. of the petitineeis chiefl e rested, required redress and alteration; that the evils were begrime, as great, and so interwoven with the system, that they could lint be removed but by destroying self-election altogether. That was - . -,------ .. . - • • mbo lilm Ree t deet of the Floe. and No . =l2aelikimis appetite. be bed used ahem the r WOW of ;he had; pat sat. his (Mr. H.'.) bee om it l l Imealth dm " infamies," e mord which be The • liell •• ile whited to hear . ts at meffilleal . ell"eit eta Hon. sod Leaseed a see/ anal .. ohm thee alum. If he twee& Alose. vestiges. , Caelletlei2 '. CsiliTitree, however Aiming* they alight be fat W. • alitrwlime, 'they eeeld lose their .fret here std o f she Ha - aid lam hie ettesetpsetseehe -*emcee sl:tres. Omiltsitit • net 04 homes they were dimmed is a MIN " It sheered . Ipie l l i th!rieY. Ir W 'l4ll kiCh S.lse N air. ooles a i t - • ationsitt to the lime. ahem their fuse- I mmo o mit rend ease, to the Heathen, a dictatorial etyk, - The au Ceuld 104 be borne with even. hem them sight so a : Ipei .olo of si lit yperessi e r t er . ed Fl ho u ibee : so s i ti n Ise i l tih [ A rte d s h :cei euere t t v . he a .d ..s eelefi lat tir pewient eet i ke t imis ie sed e !igiagel ipesi tu T e t h ei llismew h ole i rtrair : f i lic . .i j rooted. mid the siateraent• of Ham. &mono N ap e.; veld be brought to a fair teal. Par the prom* .oif i k , i ~ lie would only move foe the. Petiiiii,eolo . ;ill *erring to seethe' day the pertalffilllll. amok the tmoneeted with the statement for it. . .. ~;,;,. - iaqiiire hi ,air T. LIITNIIRIDGE exploille4 He 114 1 4 **Hail?' M i nt there're*. ea grimed for alleipag thin Mr. Hoot whether II -amp in solitary easilluernent ;he believed the Or the chasm Seat had all the amvesietiees end comforts b a „, eiao *WM Atomism. Fled lie beets eoulleed its . a d hkev , • Ill t il iqe .t : Ire l (die t T. w oul d he ) debt " irl% 8.: 1 : • , e slew to admit the proofs as , aa i s , ' Wiser it rapt be coeld have y ' , • , a doieg,ifisiek be intimated . . ilNlP,Offi .., ,/' ~tame' S. al . the Pakten wee eiflored to ialt u • ii , . w di l e r. O. 81111110 ? Mowed for i .1). O H o oali s i forthwith, ordered last Sassiest. (a. Ills en- tires 4 I al •the Aces sod ewiployments held by p in t o ." bra the Hosese.— Ordered: . , . 1111 ..41 The I simmeri SLAVIt TRADIL eteseseee. - 1111010110411111 All wished I. know of the No ble an i mal a whom he raw in his place, if Government ' say official copy of any act of State so ilit by the. Cartes Cot th e Seal abolition of the Le" A 'rude ? Sects • report had arrived ill Loudon, ash; 'Rat : it !mold be relifyieg to the country et large Doom ks E ., ihremble • reamer established by say v a o r e .m. co _ . asibmity. After gib • •-• 4-•; ft 4 - sat of Lott opinhersay mid. that Go . . before du . o* AL.a. ,i.... wig )et P p titill of any act of the token is •,, "of S ' ' ' tte'aitere in goer. in a ke this 1 111 " , • was eeety , 4l, believe shot were a ela had beew lt waecer- number; 7 ,,,,,, I ems edi fas p iteesi poissaiiig all the part they Was CarielOsit *Ott taligeree that Imo which auseally. blimp greed es with Speis fee the es- anent. esm if Pea traffic eons had - :111(litimeas to pot soother eptestion know if plaints o f rWI ...... to impose tee years' herd lobster oa i a revenue Ntiiperted slave, iota th e West lodise set. : the coupe Plagi q imsg is. I Vailiiti of LonhouhnutT believed that I would le the 'Otiose/ Wetly of the *eh& E 4 srosshi not WINN sll embalmed is the &puts. ell e tZgiglient bi as aloalf shit roeifsag the spiels* of the Mao • et the harsh of Aberdeen. he which tattaiseeraltla. That %rile bed deabtradbesot, aftst Wriest from year to 11 1 11119disil r thaisseatiliaassuol meet *is *MOM et athi,4 MmoomiaMeas to 6.0004 wide la point of Sat the AA tetwlßbhi43o.oool. James Harvey. asellt in•hig examination bore* the Coo dheillees *MI* eked " Whether he thought tiug soowterweldbilitY attached to them for the cooosakment ell eat lees than 13110,C100/. of debt ?" answered * 4 That the kooks shelved the real stole of their sillistrs.—Hid I'e burgesses accent to the books ? No.—Would they be allowed to see the books if they asked it ? No.—Did the Report to the General Meet iti 1909, of debts amounting to 6,800/. par. port so be the Petite debt of dye burgh ? The Malmitest exhibited that as the whole amount of the illebia.—.What wee the real amount of debts at that time ? Between 130.0001. and.140,000/._W hy was that concealment made? We thooght it was just*. well to continue what had been done year after year, as soy thing else ; sad es the statement was never meant to tell the truth, we thought it as well to conceal 110,1300/. as any other Dom."— Thetis questions sod answers were pert of the testi. sway of one of the Magistrates before the Com mittee. The Magistrates of the burgh, who had bees a party to that fraud, whether struck with shame at their own conduct, or from whit other mistiest h. knee not, come to Nut following resolutioo , which showed far mere skonglyttlian any thing he could say, the' l reessity of • thorough chasige of the self.ekatture system. They stated tbat. is justice to `.',themselves; they desired to place as record their sentiments in reference to some of the missies relating to the ember• rummest of the affairs of she burgh. The mode hf election, by the sookstaiton of their own mimes sons they Ismlted items as radically defiretim and impniper,_and es wholly esle•lirted to foster and - eoeostessie a system of sent* and concealment, leder which the best Inimetioneal enagistrate would Mid it impossible to ',quire • pole& acquaintance with the affairs erase burgh ; mid they were of otta nioa. therefore; that the system ought to he changed. All the charnels', inotituttorts of Aberdeen were in. eluded is the' general cebfusioo, and suffered greatly is essimeqemme of the bontruptcy brought ow by seek nnamanagetnent. And was it possible by memos of a Bill to &table the burgess', to go to law with the Magistrates to correct such en evil ? The Report of 1819 classed the allegations of the Petitioners under eight distinct heads, which had been invariably voted true by the Committees of 1793, 1819, and 1921. If • remedy were not to b.-applied to these evib. agreeohly to the opinion of the Repots, he would ask the Learned Lord what he meant to do with the Reports ? He hoped he should be understood in his observations o p tat the exiMance of gross and coriupt practice'', ss eon. demising the system and not the individuals. The emultict of the Magistrate*, end their declaration which be bed read, were as contrary one to the other, os any two things could be, and yet both wore ties sets of the same persons. The principal grelausees alleged by the Petitioners were the 1911 1 111 1 0 A self-election ; the want of control in the Muiover the expenditure of the fends by the rls ; the mismanagement of the uharitable and other fonds of the buses ; the alienation of the burgh lands end other properly. and the imposition of beat taxes without due au thority. In 1793 the amount of extra ex actions in half the royal burghs for the preceding eight years amouated to 12,3361. That was money illegally raised from the burgesses, and which did not find its way into the treasury either of the burgh or the county, but had been dissipated, it did not appear how. In ten years the money illegally ex acted amounted to ten times the amount paid to the Government. In 1793 the Committee, in re porting on the alienation of the properly of burgh., stated that it had not been able to di.. cover how such alienation had bren effected. The same was the case in 1819 and 1821. But even with these Reports in his hands he almost despaired of effecting any thing towards a redress of the evils which they sobstsntiated. It was only in the last sitting of that House that he had made a motion which was admitted on all sides to be just and proper; but because it did out proceed front Ministers they opposed it. end it was consequently rejected. This was therefore the last eppeal he hod to make to the House on this question. He was convinced that lit could make out a case that celled for redress to the satisfaction of any body of men in the country acting as jurors ; but whether he could make it out so as to gain the vote of that House was quite another thing, and one of which he entertained much doubt. if say man wished to establish • complete and ef fective scheme of corrupt administration, be would recommend him to adopt what he would find laid down in these Reports 86 the existing administra tiou of the Scotch burghs, and he would defy hu man ingenuity to devise any more certain system.— The Report of 1182 h steted 'hut seats in Council sad offices in the burgh of Cupsr sere regu larly bought and sold.. It an happened that in another burgh o person Was appointed to the office of Tows Clerk, who was incompetent and act sally unable to perform the duties. Another person waa therefore conjoined with him who was able to do the duty. The latter dying. the ditties devolved on the incompetent perms. in such a case it was natural to suppose that the party would be re moved. and Ins place supplied by one better qua lified. But such was the nature of a Scotch burgh, that he maintained an action, end judgment was given that he could not be removed. It was even declared that if the Magistrates eluted an idiot to the office he could not be removed. The Report of 1820 also stated it to be necessary that the Magis tours and other officers should reside in the burgh, but they did not so reside. It had appeared before the Committee that one permit was a member of the council of four different burghs at the some time. He asked the Learned Lord if he admitted the evil, to be ouch as they were described ? If he did, he would again ask him, how his Bill, by allowing the burgesses to go to law with the Magistrates,could correct them ? [ l'he Lord Advocate.acrom the table, said. "that was not his Bill."] He begged pardon of the Learned Lord for having understood him to adolpt the Rill of the former Lord Advocate. He would Vie salt wbethet the Homo could been that the mess of evidence and reports ess the abject should be itestirely *Mem aide mod not need at all. mid trust entirely to the MN which the Learned Lord might have in contemplation t He contended that it was the duty of the House in Committer. to omasider the notate of the geievmsees comphtined •f, the opinions in the Repent, and the proper mode of correcting them. The Committee of last year said, if it conceived that ihere was auy necessity for forfeiting as a 'easily a total change of the system, they would cut hesitate to re commend it. N.), he contended that it was se. cemary ; but the Committee were of opinion that such an alteration would be couleur,' to the Articles of Union. By the Articles of Union the heritable jorisdietioce were to remain as they were at that period, and yet every one knew that no far bark Its the reign of George IL they were abolished. The Committee also objected to any interference with the " chartered rights" of the burghs. But Pre they, he would ask. chartered rights ? He would admit that the rights of the burghs once were an; bet they had been altered over and over again, mid that illegally. They bed been altered by the contention of the burghs; they had elm been altered by the Crown. But did he ask for any alteration of their chartered rights? No: all he wanted was, the removal of the abuse, which had arisen out of the illegal changes in those rights ; abuses which bad become part of the local law, and which the Judges of Scotland had declared their inability to rectify, by reason of their having been established upwards of forty years. Before he sat down he would sey a few words on the remedy for the evils he had been descanting on, and though that was not preperly the business of that night, yet he had no M.111016°81 is saying, though he diseleimed any sweeping reform, that he looked for no remedy in which the principle of self-election was out abolished. He would make the trades elect • large somber of the Council-ea large number of the Council to go out, hot to to eligible to be re-elected. He merely threw this out not with any intention of debating it, but merely to obviate the objection that might be urged against hilts, if he had declared the grievaseeresida. out at the same time being prepared mil% tiny remedy. He apolemised for treemeniug en• oe the lime of the House , but he ',Wired iiii Members that he had omitted tea times it s as be hod expressed. The Noble Loud by tea l . attiring. that the Homo fie reside, itself las a Comeltittee of the whole Home, to take into Me= eideratioa the Petitions relative', the Royal Burl% of Scotland. The Lout Anwocees said, he had expected the Noble Lord wool/ have been prepared with mew speeifac remedy, er that he would have waited till he had seen the Bill of which he (the Loyd Advo cate) had . gives notice. He did not intend now to explain its astute, though the Noble Laid might hove known it by looktog to the lest year's Report. Though he did eise ore moms to go at any Werth into his intended .measure, he heist, hesiestiett in declaring, that iu its effects it would not touch Puy of the Article* of the Union, which soy feria boo, suet as the Noble Lord reeommendesi most assuredly *mild. His plan !mild not cement in any alteraiion of the constitotien of the royal burgh. of Scotland, and for the reason that, however disguised it might be, it vets," attempt to remit) the represPntititiii so far at ferried the rtiyal hur_ghs of Scotland,— (Hee!, hear.)—Thatinteln re miehior 'night not be right, but all events let it be brought forward openly and directly, and not under the pretence of rectifying abuses in the 'um• nagement of corporation funds, and thus profess edly looking to one object, effrct another. That this was the object was clear from this, that there were in Scotland other burgle, besides royal burghs, there were burghs of barony and burghs of rega lity ; but as these burghs had nothing to do with returning Representatives to Pathament, they were not looked at, notwithstanding that in Ha. milton and Poislry inverrigetion was as much re quired as in any of the royal burghs. The Hon. Member for Aberdeen was perfectly well acquaint ed with the mode of election in Scotland—with the exception of Edinburgh, all were aimilarly cir. commenced. At the election of the IrliMourrible Member for Aberdeen, there were five iudieidnals present, two of whom voted for an lion. Friend of his (the Lord Advocate's), and two for she Hon. Member, mid he himself gave the costing vote by which he was retorted.—(Hear )—He would not detain the House by going through the proceed ings of the different Committees, it certainly sp• peered that much usiamassagement had occurred in money matters, but there was no instance of cor ruption; more of the public money might have been expended that. was wise, but the House would pardon him for sling. that of the wisdom of the expenditure no judgment could be formed from a mere comparison of figures. The objects of ex• pense might be most proper, and such as would • ultimately be of the greatest benefit, and he would iiistar.ce the case of Aberdecu. There the fends had brew expended iu improving the imrbour, a measure calculated to increase the 'prosperity of the town instead of rendering it bankrupt. It had, indeed, already improved, though the funds were managed by the same set of inewstrate..—(.l Hear, hear," from NI r. Hume.)—He believed he was quite correct in stating that the same magistrates were re-elected, and that the minis of .the town were again rendered prosperous. The Committees in 1820 and 1821 went oil this rule : %%tit any of the different grievances complained of were supported by evidence, in Site or vie instances they considered it as proved, and that it would be a waste of time to look to other towns. The Noble Lord had attribut. ed the whole mismanagement to the mode of elec tion, hut the Committee attributed it to the 100 of those checks on the corporations which for merly existed. In ancient hates the Court of the King's Chamberlain, and afterwards the Court uf Exchequer, had the potscr of inquiry and control over thew ; but at the Union, when a new Court of Exchequer was constituted, it became a question whether it had all the powers of the old Court, or only such as were conferred on it by the statute of Anne, and it was then decided that they had no a n t po hr ie gs w i t i , :t ed . r de b ,be u t i i t sfi l o w rn ha i e l a t d: 7 t i t y h tl e e de q d r i i i o v t.s u e t h f io r t o n fri of ha tl : theet Actb invalidity n 0 r recently ps i i Lord Chief Baron, who delivered as his opinion that they now h a d a ll t h e p e wee , o f 1 the old Court of Exchequer; therefore he had lit. --- tie doubt bat the Cori of Exehequev might i n quire into the Asses of the foods; her se litigation • dense would be introduced into Bill giving the power to the Court of Hectoliter lie objected to the alteration ia coaritatiose of . the royal burghs propoard by the Noble Lord, b e . cause it would Pot hove the effect of joreii4el;,, abuse. Changes had taken place in arse a rite bombs, rid were they bettor .motaged thisnoso ir ,.p 'ln - die town of Stirling, where selfMleetli a ' l ,,,,, completely broken thretighe there exited Joe r Misch ground of complaint as in the ov nt Therefore some further remedy ought to be /led , The measure which in 0 few 41019 he moose to pre, they (so his aide) contended would Isar li e elect, mood he would my, that at levet it might tie be tried before the Howse consented to si y fir of the enoistitation of the burghs, itimi Articles of Union. He was clearly .r • • that the House might alter the Aitieles of U • with either Scotland or Ireland; hot it onto not to be done without the moat premium oi and where • Committ e e of t h at Holier lied derided that soother mestere would be eftctuol.lie re l i g ht it peculiarly iUSprOper. The Carried ~,nrd vim , chided by hoping that the H•tom would Mot 'aim. dpced to towel) the chartered rights of Seed mi d" any of the grounds which had been shooed, sod pressed his intention of voting against the indigo of the Noble Lord. Mr. Hues mid, he rose to express his opiaise ea the sebject, ms well es to correct some of die imminent' of the Leered Lord. He shoed test there was no corruption; but had not the Flows Mei instance of Invevary ? doubtless others es. laird. The Hon. Member proceeded to roue the conduct of the Com.ilittet of lot year, for m & permitting what in trete" end practice was always done; the Noble Lord was not allowed to drew au the Report. The Noble Lord wits i.. Scotland ( s , the porpnee of exercising hi. elective freachito, said though the Session wis not expected to Wriest. in less then six weeks, the Report could net tut 64 long. It was, ha. understood. grog*. lion of the Noble Lord (Bruning) and the Lanni Lord Advocate. He (Mr. Home) "OW ems ture to say that there were no other Imo Members of shot Howe would have Hoard the Noble Lord as the lifeeetwrs of the Cramithe hod done. When in that Committee there're was pot for resoling the Report, paragraph by pos. roffehtelt. he (.Mr. Hoare) bed mole an sorriest, to give the Noble Lord osicimewthnit, of frmif ' the Report. He pot it as any non in the Rims to gay whether 11094 was not e fair proosseies; bet me the division there appeared, Aye., teem; say. •Now it was on the Report ef this Collimitro flirt the Learned Lord wished the Home to rely; but se far from the Sort leek. lug to that Report, 'let them look to -SU See presiding Reports, and they woad iliss• dot the allegations of all the Petitions were rod, The same, and all conceived in proyine some modifies. fir •f the system of selfselectisto. He dm* his Noble Friend was quite right in The mama which he was warn, It he might be roosted that the Committee load no intention is set as thus. Petitions. The Report of Cormitmeshoold be ciensidesed by the House es the opining of s set of Geritlemen who erevp,gll of one red. turd been said that this cue .4, ration for refunp—ho (Mr. Hume) thought thet.it, wee a mess of ketone the Borgesees into a share of the oepreseetattos, and he thought they ought to hove it.e-tliest.)— lie wished the Learned Lord would consider sad grant something ; give them but a beginentg, sad sure he was that they would mike props,— (Hear, heir.)—eHe asked for a little. became he would not be represented es taking • leap, sod hes cause it would decide the question whether there was ever to be a commencement of refers, or whether his Majesty's Ministers would risk the peace of the country by an absolute refne. fle contended that, though not gazetted, the town of Aberdeen was smuttily insolvent; he did not blatue the individuals hot the system; muter that system it was impossible the mongers could be honest men. Such was the purport of the minute of the Council of Aberdeen when they re• signed ten yeses ago; yet the Ministers reinstated them. reinstated the very men who had got the burgh in debt several hundred thoneatid pounds— but be it observed the management of the fuotle was still in the hands of trustees. " But," mid the Learned Lord, '6 this expenditure is fee great ie. provetnents; look at the harbour of Aberdeen" But the Learned Lord forgot that the harbour ass under a separate trust. If this expenditere bed been for real improvements, he (Mr. Hume) could almost have forgiven it; but all that had been done was to run out • quay, which every der was tie' bling down, and in the opinion of many naval re would one day or other totally destroy the harbour. These were the sort of improvements for which sll the charitable fonds had been squendereol, and as immense debt incurred. He would admit, that if the whole of the lands belonging to the city were sold, there would be means sufficient to pity the debt.— (Neer, hear.)—But was that any room ithr these self-eluted persons should have sqiiendereil whet the Kings of Scotland had eoduwed the burgh" with for ever I' He dui not wonder that leo Majesty's Ministers supported the Marriott's et Aberdeen, for they had followed their example of eztraeaganee ; indeed, the inbahitents of Abel:Jew had rather the advantage, for if the whole fee simile of England were sold, he did not believe it would liquidate the debt which the Ministers had incurred. So that here was an exemplifiestir of the o ut adage, " Birds of a feather flock together." 1 .1 '6' Magistrates of Aberdeen would receive good eel" port from his Majesty's Ministers; but he r‘• hotted the House so restore to the bergeirer theist rights of which they were onestosed till the year 1669. One of the grievances in the Petition of Right to William end Mary's reign was, that the abdicated Sovereign hid subverted the rights of the royal leurel". The Baillie in Scotland was a judicial officer, be sides having the management of the funds, end !I was essential 11191 they should possess the retib• dente and respect of the people. The want of diet feeling caused the present Magistracy to be Fr:: garded in Scotland as it distinct set of persona ft the people of Scotland had any iefluence 'detec tions, he would not say that all, bet eer t a inly t i great number of the Members from theme wee d be oo his side of the House. The Honourable lise roost (Sir G. Clerk. we believe) would pot hsi'g if the elective frauchiee were on a wider basis to the ■ i~ I I• . 1 1 11 I 1 I A I b M N 1