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Prayers were then read, and the House entered upon the ordinary business of the Day. The Franking Bill was brought up from the Commons by Mrs, ALEXANDER ; and four Private Bills by Messrs. BLA CICB UR NE, METCAL FE, and other Gentleinen. 7 -These were severally read a first time. The Various BillS' before the HouSe were forwarded in their respective stages • In the course of these proceedings The Earl of SUFFOLK called the attention of the House to the County Bridges Bill, which he un derst6od had been brought up from the Commons. He hoped it was not the intention of those Lords who supported this Bill, to hurry it silently through the House, as was the prAice with respeft to too many Bills of a similar description :-:-.hete were some points in the Bill in,question, which merited a deliberate and serious consideration, and upon pub_ 1k principles, as he should have occasion to spew. The Earl of WESTMORLAND, in answer to what fell iron) the . Noble Lord, observed, that :the Bill in question had been some days upon the Table, it had regularly gone through two of its stages, and he Understood, that day stood for committal. The harsh language of the Noble Earl, could not,.there fore, be applicable. It , was by no means the wish of its supporters to smuggle the Bill throUgh . the House, but fairly to meet every well-founded ob s jeftion against it.. After a few wards between these Noble Peers and Lord WALsratottArst, the 'Committee on the Bill . was, on the motion of the Earl of SUFFOLK, pCnt. poned till 'Wednesday next, and the Lords ordered to be summoned on the occasion. •The NC)ble Earl; last mentioned; proceeded to observe, that he should take the opportunity of the summoned House on Wednesday next, to call their Lordship? attention generally.to two points of con siderable public importance; namely, the Poor's Rates, and to certain points relative to the affairs of India; those, his Lordship seemed to say, he should very generally advert toy and the more espe cially as a Noble Lord, then in his place, had given notice of A specifi~ motion upon the same sulsjeas, !After the Noble Earl had made some far ther observations upois the. subject last mentioned, 7hi.#arl of MOI RA feeling himself called upon, rose and observed, he bad certainly given notice of the motion alluded to by the Noble Earl, but it was' in the recolleftion of the House, that he had deferred it in consequence of some very important information relative to the particUlar subsea, which wasesaily expefted to arrive from India. He was fully aware of th e great importance of the subjed, acid that was a weighty reason with him for wait . ing for the necessary information, by which alone their Lordships could be enabled to give it a full and thorough discussion. The Earl of SUFFOLK admitted, to a certain degree,. the weight, of the reason adduced by the Noble Earl for postponing the motion, but he pressed to his consideration the period of the Ses ston, as well as the circumstances of the debts of India, which, he thought, loudly called upon the House to turn its attention to that • quarter ; the situation of our affairs in India he held to be such as may eventually aired- England in the most in. jurious manner. The Earl of Mo /RA spoke in explanation. Lord GRENVILLE took the opportunity to ob serve that he agreed with both the N o bl e L or d s; as to the gre at i mpo rtance of the subject alluded to, ,and on that, grouod he was decidedly of opinion, that no discussion should take place until the ex pefted information and documents were before the House, 'which could alone enable their Lordships and the Public to see the affair in its true light.— He had, however, no hope that the necessary in formation could arrive from India.in sufficient time to enable their Lordships to discuss the 'subject this session : this delay must be forcibly felt by the friends of those Noble Personage's, and the approver§ of their conduct, who were implicated in the sub jeft ; they most ardently wished fOr a full and thorough examination of the case; which/they were confident would manifest to that House, and to the Country, that their conduft, on the occasions in question, was founded on those principlei of sound policy and justice which had hitherto marked the charader of. their Administration in India. After some routine businesi was disposed of, Lord G(?ENFILLE' rose, and addressed the House at some length :—ln the course of his obser vations he stated, ' that his principal reason for coni ing down that day, was to call their Lordships' at tention to a subject of the first . importance,•as it re lated to part of the concerns of the Ecclesiastical GoVernment of the Counttic He was aware of the irregularity, of adverting to what passed'in the other House of Parliament, but, on the present occa, sion, it was unavoidable.. He understood from the \Totes of the other House, that a Bill was in its progress there, which went principally to the regu lation of the Residence of the Parochial Clergy, and containing 'a plan professedly for the ameliora tion of, those points. What he had to state, be assured their Lordships, proceededfrom no motive of hostility, or wish to protlnce .embarrassments ; he had too favourable an opinion of the very learned and respeftable personage who introduced the Bill ; but he wished previously ; though perhaps somewhat irregularly, to call their Lordships' attention to the subject. So"fully was he impressed with its im portance, and to press to their consideration, in that point of view, the very advanced period of the Session, a time, when nearly the whole of the Prelacy, with the exception at most of four or five, would be absent on indispensible duty : this would be the case did the Bill come up to that House on the 9th or loth of June ; the visitations were actually begun, and nearly the whole of the' Re verend Prelates absent on that duty. It was unne cessary to advert to the importance of their' assist, ance in ,the discussion of the Bill in question, or the impropriety of deciding upon it during their absence; more especially would ;I measure of the kind, relative to the non-residence of the Parochial Clergy, conic with an ill grace trom the House, of which the Right Reverend the' Bisinips formed a parr, at a time when they were :absent from their dioceses, from October till July. He believed it was the wish of the very respedable Gentleman who originally propOsed the measure, that it should have a full and deliberate discussion. Such a one, he was convinced, could not be given to it in the present Session indeed, he thought it would be the best way to let the Bill lie over, and circulate _through the Country during the re cess, in order that the public opinion may be the better understood upon it.—ln the late Admini_. stration, of which he had the honour to be a Mem ber, a plan was in contemplation for the regula tion of these matters, but -on a broader and more comprehensive principle ;—that plan, which was very nearly matured, went to regulate not only the affair of Residence, but provided for -an adequate augmentation of the salaries of the lower orders of the Clergy. It was , irregular to refer to a Speech delivered in the other House, but considering it as a pamphlet, it may be regularly referred to ; arid in that it was said to . he stated by the respedaßle person to whom be before alluded, that not half the Parochial Clergy were in the enjoyment of more than .501. per annuny each; and that the average income of the Curates (so we understood his Lordship) was between 201. and 301. a-year. This would spew the propriLy and necessity of an aug mentation of the stipends of these useful members of the Community. Not only on these grounds, but on ; principles of humanity and justice they were entitled to it ; and in theplan formed Icy His Majesty's late Ministers upon the subject, the augmentation was, not only sketched out, but the very funds from which it was to be taken were duly assigned for the purpose. The plan; he admitted, did not go to affed the residence of the Incumbents, that would go to annihilate Presentations to more than one Benefice, which, under the present circum stances and state of the Church, would go 'to over throw the Chdrch itself ; but it provided especially for the residence of Curates, so that each parish would be certain of having 'at least one resident pa-, rochial Clergyman. He hoped the attention of tie Legislature, and of His s'Vlajesty's Ministers would be seriously, turned to the very important subject in question, and on broad and general` grounds ; and that if we were permitted to enjoy the bles sings of Peace, even for a few months, they would take some steps in it. No• man mild possi bly iesped the individual who brought forward the Bill in question more highly than he did .himself, or could be more_ strongly impresse'd with -,the fitness of that person for the subject : but from no individual whatever could ;he proposition; - on efficient principles-come t'crward with due weight -and effed---- s it must have die support of His Majes ty!'s Government ; and at the same time he would ,observe, that to render such a measure either just or efficient, an augmentation of 'the income of the' lower Clergy must lac included He. was well aware of the Financial s i tuat i on o f, t h e C ountry ; but surely, they were riot in tlui't state,.. as to disable them from adequately remmierating those, with whose condul and services, the Morality and Religion of the COuntry were so essentially con. netted. To disseminate the principles of true mo rality and of religion among the people, would be more efficacious in the preservation of in ternal tranquillity and good order than any force or legislative regulations whatever; and from these considerations the strength and resped of the Coon_ try in external relatiops naturally flowed. Conti nuing to enforce these considerations, his Lordship observed, that they more particularly applied when Bills of Suspension were resorted to ; and we un derstood him to say, that were he not restrained by the pradice of the House, he would himself pro pose a Bill for the continuance of those permissions. He pressed the consideration, that no decision could be properly made on the main subjed by their Lord ships ,this Session, and apologized for irregularly taking up the time of the House, on a subject which, hoWever, when its great importance was consider ed, he trusted what he had said would not be deem.: ed either impertinent or superfluous. , - The Earl of SUFFOLK expressed his acquies cence in the greater part of the sentiments ex pressed by the Noble Lord, who on'that occasion as on all others he said, had acquitted himself with a considerable degree of ability. He hoped, how ever, that whatever the Noble Lord should pro pose, would extend to Ireland, as in that Country the regulations in question were still more wanted than in this Country ; and ,to the want of these advantages, the recent calamitous situation of that Country was in a great degree to be attributed,— The Noble Earl was proceeding, when Lord ALI/ ANLEY rose, to speak to the question of Order ; there was no Motion before the House, of course all discussion of the kind was irregular-- the Noble - Lord urged the importance of the Subjel, and stated his opinion of what should'be the condua of the House when the Bill alluded to should come before them. . Lard GRENFILLE spoke in explanation, and with a view principally to set the Noble Earl tight, who seemed to consider him as having given notice of an intention to bring forward a Propo sition upon the subjeft : that was not his inten tion at present ; he tnetely threw out his ideas on the great importance of the subje&—the great ne cessity them was for efficient regulations, and de. oidedly to express his opinion, that the Measure, in order to be adequately efficacious, ought to flow from His Majesty's Government. The LORD CHANCELLOR shortly noticed some points which had fallen from the Noble Lord who, in some of whose ideas he seemed to concur, but urged the consideration, that the Honse could not possibly come to any decision on the subjeet con ne6led with a measure then pending before the'other House of Parliament. Of t h at Bill t h ey cou ld re gularly know nothing. When it came before them, their Lordships could properly deliberate upon the steps it, would behove them to take upon the sub_ jest. Lord ROLLE rose to express his sentiments upon the•subjea. His Lordship was called to Order by Lord ALVANLEY, who again urged the irregu larity of discussion. Lord ROLLE professed his unwillingness to fres -1)455 on the House, and assigned some forcible rea. ."..--SO-11;.: tol r e -- ;:eildli 1 :6711: -7 prOi °-Sell re8"1". tk)r's t 4) lie : Adjournment being land. , An 9 Cha i licellor put the Question, and the Howe ttrir ineLtitely adj9urned till To-morrow , when Lo . rdships stana sunmioned upon the Earl of Su, ll° , 5 proposition relative to ft e conduCt uf 1-lis Mgr tY late Mini ' . ' sters. .. then moved/ the 1...00117 HOUSE OF COMMONS„ .. WEDNESDAY., JUNE •Z. d 0 5561 ' shouldTT ile . Scotch C i. b -s e rn g i i: 1 1 t o the K t.,.v e , re ,--. thatd for his Sermon preached yesterda ' y bethre the t f o ur b ther . Lord .... LESEERV I E moved'l l'i ' ICKS of the ~. 0. s p : de n r s . at St . . M a t iN cg l e a i e l re i o t t' a s B C i l ll iuri ' l l s r, r a e i a i d d a t:: that r : 11 ,1 et ii;ecuris:ll°l:ll:7ls: be printed. Ordered. i . stpon to-mOrrow. 1.,,i ill° . Thethe Mitiers' Bill was VI ' ea till consideration, r o a f t i o the n, I. :o i l tatiliutteearg agreed w, Bill alid N t lr i a c s ii t i all o ' r i d,rcci I t v r i e lliarn ia. thereof. --Agreed read a third time" to-morrow. • • The Hou • h • - - •. or the Dutch Prop&•ty Ad, . which We c Lord GLE XBERVIE, after a few observations .cula be o.lt ( id not - distinctly hear, moved, that the Chairman s i l' i to lireded to move the House, for leave to bring i" a D' /0 _ Ag se r a eed v t i o n . g resolved itself into a Cormnittee to oh: repeal the said Ad, add to substitute other provisions h, The • ( L io o i r i d a sih p ip e s b h t ad ßi a l g lo reed the to Vincent, 1),•_,, rnittee (Mr. ALEXANDER), moved for leave accordihg'Y' House having resumed, the Chairman of tile C o_ Leave given.' trt th eir • - • A Message from the. Lords informed the House, !-::,,Na- S t u h g e ar lri ß si O l ut o t Stamp Bill, the Irish Mariners Bill, . and l'..:',..erali,Peji3ill Bills, without any Amendment, and to the•Phsr 0 91 LL con with several Amendments, to winch they desire d the cl!rrence of the Holt*. • wittee, The Westlndia . '-- • ' .11which Dock Bill passed through a Cori' so p( %, provision was made to indemnify he r . for the e opers di London, Owners of Lighters; and 0'1%7 the losses which they . would sustain in co ' u`' lice ' 11.)eq Bi-!! .___. Report to-morrow. - " The Souther Whale - . i irti ligla Southern Fishery Bill swis read a t 1 . and passed Bounty, :iiiiee i ; i b e; I..:iyciiiiiicci The SECRETARY at WAR presented the A • -h bt bjc Estimates for the remainder of the. ye ar ; : were ordered to lie. on the Table. not ice of The SECRETARY at 'WAR then ga ve - ,d,ly his intention to move thekrmy Services on Nio. in the Committee of Suppl. , ;, •o - 1 0 ' M. BANkES wished tO know,whetner .- w' 1 1 f t o e mrli n no t l i esd e r d eco to'print them ? OOl Tbe SECRETARY 'at WAR said it wa s usu M al T t . o usual to print the Estimates.' but he wished if it ere I )° ,' the • that an -Abstrad of them might be laid bef ur ;dill House, in order that 1.116- might be the More re' d" ` 1 compared with the, Establislunent previons R ' s .-Sirß B pr A in A t z.it: h E e S m, said,- he was aware it was during the War. . ' i'A such 'a The SECRITXR Y at WAR doubted how - ... r il f lie f6 t . h tt: e hec° co hni n a( l ) : : : c: r te si ' t v i7ri liibe ended. c°46is ten t 'v' t 0B COTTON ER.TpEE I, & I n 1 i k o N v e U d k: ACT I I E. r ti ,, pi , for "I t i h r e . , H thirdreading EAriiy iA o s f c, the E L CZ E r t h r e n o O p A i : 0 1 ; 5 1 r ' e r d oe: ' t r- l i , c. e .c , t l3 l: t i i : r o la ; reading of the Bill. He considered it as molly(l I , i . measure, ,as it attacked a few individuals , w llieL l allowed others to pursue the same prattle° lic Ole Bill was intended to check. d I f; Mr. SHAW LEFErRE also 'opP ose , r bur' denthought t the e t f,wreoeuld childreno nlvte e n m d to o oy i e h d r 0 . v.' , a g rea t : l e , ; , 'I low) uuagrSsshiruteiditmoit?ihiOitaßv have ROBERT P ri E er E ice L The Bill eedm wa Ci measure u i t t rh s ee nofahrirteital farther .ab thirdut ob stei time' v: : ~.c. they cia o_ ,Mr. WILBERFORCE brought up 3 '', than 1001 which Manufacturers empfoying nOt less " 13 " tto riest nor ,'more than 1 500 persons in their YI:001'1101 die , are to be allowed to continue night w orl ' ovir4 zsth of September 1803 ; and those e l 0 11° more than isoo till the 2.5 th-of June 1 S O4 *' t . r iJet• was T agreed to, and added to the Bill by w a Yl 0 the The Bill Was theri passed and order Lords. I oflditmsiettfseccia'ct:abteio-l',;t 11,,, Lords. ' CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS. Nov 141 TAYLOR e House having on the Motion of Mr• 00 :14 _ resolved itself into'a fir. EleCtion Bill, , en ts 5° Mr. .11ANKES renewed his formes argu', 100 support of the amendment proposed by hi"'„ t ,: e rsis t t _out the word Nominees. He shoul d stl",1"- 0 he said, in endeavouring to take awaY t i l t 4 eil ticc i. part of this judicature' which he con ceive(' to bring it into disrepute. Mr. TAYLOR went over some of hi s ' fbrili i e e ( aruthents against the prop ose d a meodole,' it observed that . Nominees were necessa:Yr! might he frequently happen, that 13 menin e. , ii , in, ie chosen on a Committee who were 0. " 1- 11A experi e n c ed in, the: forms and proceedings ° House. - i 5 l olli" , A Member proposed that the Nominees not be allowed to vote." oulti . Mr. M. A. TAY LOR said, such a measu re c ola be a libel on' the House, as supposing Oat duty t;'1:. not trust any of its Members with the -- Nominees. a sh ut . ....,„;ne . _:The Gallery was then cleared, anfl th, - ; cu ssi° f r some time during the remainder of th e " s on this Bill. ' rat rfC # The Committee divided on the Amencline" posed by Mr. BANKES. For it 25.—Against it .77. C o m m C u The Bill having paSsed,through the l t '. troL v. the Report was ordered to be received to-ru° VACCINE INOCULATION. A co ill' The House having resolved itself into — f t i j e mittee of Sur:ply, ;' n o Admiral BERKELEY called the attentiroctitioo, Committee to the Report on DS. Jcu'"r's ~t e d t l ' is The Committee, be said, who had i n veitigi; ose v :olio Petition, had been anxious to exouin e t cti jati° l4 were originally hostile to this m ode 0' 10° d o re• and who therefore would be more k searches as to its merits. N o meow; tic' ; ose j L o a een to e left n , tried by the Committee(to procure (I , i . er h_ the efficacy of this invention, to liearr7et.t r : this mode 'of condua might seem Petitioner, it had , redoundod in eve t Y ct „nroi lt i, 6 and howc...oo,dit! his advantage. If the 'Wort of 1 lic te ,i hY, t 0",,, did not satisfy Gentlemen, it was.sUiV r ,,o l,l f r e , testimony of all - Europe. Dr. P oo ' t' ' r t he - bably have realized a large sum h'itcl he Icell:0,1 jibe.. cret of hiS invention to himself, but 1) ;1 4°4' rally given it to the world, and that at of A . 9 cafr - , 1 fPI pence to himself; the expe,nce rzelq ° •