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rally looked up to as the only means by which the pour could be rendered more moral and respect: able. Here, then, were instruments highly fitted Tor the purpose, raised up as it were by Prove. deuce and the institutions of the country, and fill. ed with zeal and talents to be serviceable to this cease. Were the House, then, fee the scruples of the few who would object (whom he respected, notwithstanding, and would do much to accoinnio date their scruple.), were they to reject tho s e power ful and honourable instruments so providentially prepared for them, because afew persons found it tiifficult to yield entire obedience to the religious establishments of the country ? He would declare ; and he expected the concutrence, by and by. of the Dissenters themselves to that cri ) i 11l on. lie would propose that the clergyman of the parish then should he invested with a subetantial said overseers , degree of authority as to the choice of the schoolnieter ; he meant him to be in. vested with the power of pronouncing a veto on the election. 'fhis was proper on another re count. The clergyman was the only person likely to be able to judge of the schoolmaster's qualifies. buns ; he alone could properly be trusted with the power of judging of the question of "seri/ideas literature." a question which might afterwards re qnire the interpositiou of the Ecclesiastical Courts. The Visitor, the Archdeacon, the Chancellor. end the Dein, all of them officers who might well be trusted, were to have the power of examining the master, and to them any complaint might be prefer red ag at list him. The master might, upon any one of them vtiitiug end examinierg the school, be remov ed hut then an appeal was to be allowed to the ordinary or metropolitan, and after more delibera tion, and sufficient cause being shewn for it, the mister might be restored. As to the order of visitilig, the ancient law allowed it to be done pr i v ily, an d for the same reason which made him see danger in departing trout the forms of the inatituriou on other occasions, lie would propose that the visitations should still be private. The visitor was to have the power of superannuating the master upon not less than twoetbirde of his sa lary. Ity the 434 and 57th George 111. the dioce. sort tY34 directed as to the mode and objects of his si•irr. respecting the affairs of the church. It vet ill,' require but a trifling form of words to give them the seine power over the concerns of the school. within the diocese. if any Gentleman felt that ibis plan was likely to connect the schools too closely with the church, he would contend, and prove, by the regulations which he had to propose, the the objection must be raised upon opinions too squeamish to be entitled to notice. The schools being planted, and the masters being provided, and the insole of election, together with the necessary clieclo, lie would next turn to the mode of admis. soon, aud the plan of education to be used. First, then as to admission, without proposing any qua lification as to the station or calling of the parents, they were to be called on to pay not less than 2.1. nor more than 4.1. per week. Suppose the average tit both prices to be equal to 50 scholars, at 20% per 'imam, that would make an addition of SOL to the salary of 201. As to the pauper chil dren, there was no doubt the parish officers would be very happy to pay for them, as they must know tliat that would he the most effectual way ul timately of reducing the poor rates. He did not wish, however, to have the spirits of the pour chil dren broken and humiliated by any line being drawl' in the school between these children rod thote of more happy parentage. He wished rather that the school should have the effect of raising the children of the poor to higher views than belonged to their condition. Adverting to the eagerness *hewn by the people of Scotland to have their chit. deem instructed, he said that a friend of his had in formed him, that they would prefer the securing of this object to the paying off the national debt. He came next to the sort of education to be adopted. lie proposed that the parson should fix the hours and pe 'Lids of instruction awl their intervals. The Bible was to be taught in the schools, and no other religious hook, or any other book, except by the consent of parson. No prayers were to be used except the Lord', Prayer, and such as were to be found in the Scriptures. He hoped he should not bring upon himself the opposition of the clergy in this case, as he load before drawn down that of the church on ettother. But his view of the case was this : lie did not think that the school was a fit place to inatrutt a child in theology ; that knowledge might be air ceasary, but there were other times which the pa rents might use for the purpose. He would nut therefore have the Catechism comprised in the (sub par, business of etlucatioo ; he did not propose this as • measure of exclusion to any party or sect. — Oa the contrary, it was intended to remove every pretext fur withholdiiig children from the schools. Ile would have the children taken to church once eatery Supday, and that should be in the morning. Those who , vere best acquainted with the &spool looter of children knew well that they were nut likely to be brotrglit to love religion the more for bring coufined to 'Mend the church for four hours in a day. If they went in the morniotkand were allowed to divert themselvel innocently in the after part of the day, it would be much better. The children of Disseuters were to be ilioired to attend Seidl their parents at any other places of worship., This, was all indispensable regulation, as no honest and COW.. scientious Dissenter would willingly sitter his child to go to church, stay more than a good church thiti would willingly eliffir his child to attend the Roman Catholic worahip, tie took the experience of nut excellent and zealots , individual. Mr. John son, who had shewn his as-fulness in various parts of the kingdom. He was I (we believe the Learised Gentleman said) the teacher of. the great school in Baldwin's-gardens. That in dividual observing on the impropriety of set ting up any regulation to compel • conformity With religious questions and institutions, said that it tended so nitike the poor Anytbing-arians, and tt.o often Nothingsarians. He (Mr. B.) was nut one who would compel observance of religious truth and forms, by starving the mind. auy more titan he was an advocate for teaching obedience in littler matters by withholding the food of diet body until certain coosditious should be complied with. Teaching the Catechism was, in fact, not teaching ss to the objects of educatiois. It.u4bl be proper for a child to know the Ceiechisin, but the common school hours could be smock jietter appropriated. There wereon the other hindAinses which !se,.ersitltl Paint alit To t thole on what t 'bout it was by any leans the Catechism. The ethics" Rio n waete consist of:reading, writing, end arithmetic. Having gone thrioNli so much of his subject (the planting Hood endowments of the schools being determilied on, the election and expenses of the masters provided for, the admission terms and the plan of cultivation adopted), he came to consoler the fourth branch of the general plan ; namely, making the old endowments more available for the general purposes of education. He would sahmit to the determination of the House the views and considerations which he entertained upon ills part of his subject ; there was not one tittle of his remarks hut would be applicable to every charity in the kingdom ; sod if the views which he held were adopted and applied to each case that might offer itse!f, it would redeem the pledge that he had Kite° two veers ago, that the plan, if properly acted upon, would rlu more to settle the contentions respecting the properly of ell. dowments than all the common law proceedings put together. This subject divided itself into several branches —lst. 'floe supplyihg of deficient trusts ; ed. To eliabie trustees to improve their funds; To enable trustees to improve the atoplicution of their funds ; 4th. To provide for the failure of objects for any of the endowments; Sth. To supply checks for the security of the other four cousidera lion.. For the first, the observation* which he would submit were gathered wholly from the Digest. Amid here the Learned Gentleman, adverting to the mis understanding into which he acknowledged laiin.elf to have fallen. with respect to the eniidUCt of the Commissioners for the Education of the Poor, took the opportunity of offering ties apology to them, which, as men of sound judgment. be had uo doubt they would accept with the same fraiiknem in which he offered it. To prove how sincere he was in ro doing. he would propose to invest them with several new powers. When the number of trustees was found to lie reduced below a quorum, and became consequently incapable of acting, lie proposed that they should be allowed to fill up the omissions of themselves. In all changes, how. ever, of a charity, in the first place the assent of the visitor must he obtained; secondly, that of the ordinary ; thirdly. there must be an appeal to the Commissioners of Charitable Education; fourthly, there was to be • notice affixed on the walls ; fifthly, the charges were to be enrolled by the clerk of Sessions; sixthly, the name of the founder and the date of the alterations were to be affixes' on the front of the building. As to the sup. plying of trusts in other cases. first, when all the trusts were gone, the heir at law should assume the trust, if he were to be found ; if the heir were not to be found, then the visitor ; and when neither the heir at law nor the visitor were to be discovered, then the clerk of the peace should administer ; and in failure of all these parties, he would vest it in the Commissioners of Charitable Institutions. A doubt load been expressed by some ignoramuses, whom the Learned Gentleman ad verted to by that title, and who had expressed their doubts (thinking themselves wiser than Lord Chan cellor Eldon, or the wisest, if there could be a wiser Lord Chancellor that ever lived) as to the ability of trustees to make a beneficial conveyance or purchase. To satisfy these, whom he ought not to have gone out of his way to serve, lie had inserted a declaratory clause. that no trustee should be a party to a beneficial surrender or con veyence of the ihterests intrusted to him. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman next went into the consideration of the iuterests of founders, and as to teaching grammar, and the power he would vest in the trustees us to the regulation of that subject. h had heeu observed by Lord Kenyon /fish Term Reprts), that a survey of the free grammar schools throughout the country would display a course of the most shameful perversions of ch.o. satiable inotitutions, wlierein frequently the only duly dour was receiving the salary. To which he (Mr. Brongham) would add, the keeping of boarders. Sometimes, besides • large salary, Si spatisms house and ground., the occupant kept fifty boarders at a cousiderable sum yearly. In other liSr• the salary was not so much, but the titl e of sehoulinester to the foundation, together with the large mad commodiosis premises, made it desirable to hold the appointment. This was fre quently brought about through the kinduess of • trustees, whore generosity on such occasions was not the more conionendable for not being at all costly to themselves. The same spirit of kind nest induced them on some occasions to allow 3UOI. u-year for repairs to the house where the foolery was not was one case wheie 400/ a year hod been allowed in Ihis way. Theo what was the next object ? Why, of course, to drive away all the children of the poor flow the foundation, those very children fur whom the schools were originally founded. Standing upon the very letter of the case, they acknowledged themselves bound to teach Latin and Greek, but mallow else. But then it was ob jected to them sometimes, that the founders could never have intended that the scholars should not know English. The reply was, .4 Oh ! my school is open—let those who are burdened with ignorance of Latin and Greek, conk, and I will give them a ktiowletlze of the roots—l'll make them know their penal() post Amnia me well as my self." He strongly repieliended so cruel mid un fair an interpretation of the intent of the founders. Such indeed might have been the intentions of some foutotkrs ; hot most of the endowments proved that it was intended also to provide fur the teaching of English, and many of them made provision for it by appointing am usher to teach it. Now what he wished was certainly not to degrade the masters, who were receiving 6004 a year. by forcing them to teach it, but to secure its being taught by sin usher, to be appoiuted fur each foundat that would admit of at. Iss proceeding, the Ho nourable and Learned Gentleman expressed his veil. lingoes. to avoid meddling with the foundations of Colleges ; they might perhaps be reasonably ex. eluded front the alierations or renural winch, were necessary fur other endowment., and In any ease there was hots much slifficoliy its attempting the ta,k_sselfuos ve.rutur quern°. Out _las to grammar rchuulr, lie had limited over a kw cases that very mar * g. must of which declared the establishinetit to be for the use of the children' of the potor,;,in one ease the woidg were, " the ch)lstrign 111.) ptilib,77 .10 .iiecs mined, that %gold !! Jape mtg!tt _include the, of tie rich; hut if poverty really moult riding in each cues, surely psorgst mild have o such interpretation ; surely " poorest!' could slot mean richest. The endowment at Lewisham was expressly " for the children of the poor who are living in alms-hoseses." Now, though poor was to be take,' for rich iii other case., certainly alms. houses were out generally the resort of sflbsence.—. It was not in such place. that they would look for guests " clothed iii scarlet and fine linen." Some of the fonotlations were expressly for the children of paupers, named as such. Poor slinsmeo were ambitious in those times of hewing their sons taught for the sake of bringing them up to the church. Churchme n were frequent:) , drawn from the lower. ranks of life. high Blfollf, 1114111• It themselves on their descent, their castles, their forces, their estates, and fortifications, orally destined the eldest son mid successor to the wars, and the ...cowl to the cloister, to make op for the sins of the family who had been or were to be engaged in battle. These younger brothers formed the body of supe rior churchmen, and the B irons ksiew well that the eridowinents which would fall to them would amply make up fur she want of a patrimony. The other chop, whose character allured the penitent charity of the pious, were those called trimmer,, the foontlers of whose establiehmente hoped for salve tido for effecting so charitable a work. Had the founders of schools of this order been able to see what an alteration the light of the Reformation breaking iii would effect. they would have no doubt taken care to secure instructiois in the vulgar tongue. in which perhaps they would still have required prayers to be said for them. Of course all fair meet's ought to be taken for the most getters! dif fusion of the benefits of the foundations. To shew the abase of grammar school., it would only be necessary to notice 4 lea out of 400 cases which he had culled on account of their superior defects. He then entered into a comparative statement of some length of the grammar schools of Cumber. laud, with those of other counties, which contained means enough, if properly applied. for educating all the poor in this country. His principle ob ject was by regulating the grammar schools, to open a door of preferment to the teacher. in the parish schools. By this means the class of schoolmasters would be raised, the character and talents of them generally improved and elevated. It was the same here as in that apparent anomaly and injustice in the church establishments, where a Prelate got 50,000/. for doing no duty, end a Curate, who did all the labour of the church. received 501. slew'. or less. Yet taking the good and the bed contained in this, as in all other human institutions. the result was advantageous to society, arid Mr. Burke's fine sentence was realised. He ought to be asham ed to mention him without remembering his exact expression, when the turn of a syllable would be injurious to it. As well as he re collected, the words were these—" We will not treat our church in that way—we will have her rear her mitred front in courts and palaces"—uot, as that great man had observed, for the immediate benefit of the existing prelates, but to raise the church in the minds of the public, and thereby not only elevate the thoughts and feelings of the public, bat exalt the character and purify the BM. bition of the class. This was the sort of reform which Mr. Burke himself had described as having teudency not only to preserve but improve.—The Hon. and Learned Gentleman next adverted to the endowments of hospital schools fur clothing and educating, whose effect and general tendency he conceived to he upon the whole pernicious. It was observable from the Digest, that they had the effect of multiplying paupers wherever they were most prevalent, and proved a complete counter-check to those natural checks of population which circum stances would otherwise establish. He would have some provision. like the Mortassin Act, to prevent such endowments as warred against sound principles of political science. He pro posed lit impart fresh power to the Commissioners, fur reducing and modifying grammar schools. He would give one instance to prove the necessity for so doing. There was an endowment belonging to the Tunbridge school, for the recovery of which a decree had been recently obtained in Chancery. The revenue was 4,5001. The SOO/. were enough fur the objects of the charity ; there were comic fluently 4.0001. a.year to spare. There were be sides 24,0001. of arrest's. These were enough to rumor' more than 100 schools, which would be as many as were necessary for the whole country. The Hors. and Learned Gentleman bestowed great com mendation on the clerks and servants of the House who had been engaged in preparing the papers and tables, and who had in so short a time accomplish• ed a work of such magnitude; he thought their talents might be found in other affairs of political arithmetic highly useful to the House. He next expatiated on the effects of an infant school which had been founded in Westmioster. The eff..cts of education were generally to prevent the degrada tions and vacuity of the mind. When he was in Switzerland. talking of the Brll and Lancaster sys. tem. M. Fellrnberg had said to him. " it teaches too fest—you make mere machines of your scho lars." He (Mr. Brougham) had not been able to answer this objection. The school its West miuster was intended fur that purpose. It brought the mind of Cse child into sufficient discip line by the age of six years, to give it all the advantage of the Litricesterian system after wards. The infant Mind was so intensely 'nima,, every thing being new to it. that it lived in a perpetual slate of enjoyment. This was th e time when it not only received impressions of kitowledge more agreeably and willingly, hut it retained the impression% of that period longer than any other. The children were besides kept out of the hearing of obscenity and vice. sod one person, whose chief grielificatom was the resjoy. merit of an equal temper, without pressing any 1 thing imainfidly upon their attenoton i and iudeed • without many -objects on them, was able to forward Ahem very considerably. These were the mods • which would at ally rote best be able to bear the • shocks of Ow world. He next came to the cons,. • deration of the expense which it would be trecessary •to incur. By the average of Devouslitre, the couttlY most defective in estsblrahinerits, the outfit would he 650,000/.. his that of Cumberland 400.90 u/. The average of . these two counties would make somewhat about 600,000/., a leas slim than had been granted for budding sox churches. There hid tiers, a time "lie, such an object would have barn provided ter in England, without any lwastatiuu or delay, by a voluntary attirst rfationw4mt that time had cra•ed— the various hardens (trifles and rates hail put ass end to that feeling. and now he was compelled to require the necessary aid of Parliament. The animal expense he valued at 100.0001. The Mos. tool Learned Gentleman, after some ',capitulatory remarks, and having apologized for detaining the House, concluded by mr.viria for leave to bring in 11 8111, for the better Education of the Poor in E.ia I slid mud Wales. Lord CASTLEREAGH, airier complimenting the non. Gentlemen on the and assiduity which mast kive preceded his statement, sll4l OH I Ile "perch be w.14(.11 he had brought the suliirrr forward, oh. serve I that he 'apposed the [lon. Gentleman did not wish to press the subject through in this Sea siim. As the Digest WAS ready, the Bill could also be printed. and both being in the hands of Mem bers. the Howe would be enabled to come to deli beration on the subject iii the early part of the next Bessie'''. Mr. IlitouGuast extoressed his acquiescence in the npini ~,, exi. , dby she Maple Lord. Mr. WiLusiteoncx made is few observations, iss which he expressed the grest abbot 11l s he felt to the 1-I,no. and Learned Gentleman fur his labours on this occ.i-1011. Mr. VEsec FITZCZIALD commented on the necersity of exttuding the benefit• of education over Ird turf. Fie proposed to himself shortly to bring in a Bill fur the purpose, in wh►ch he would be very glad to seed himself of the examples artt him by th e Il , n►. sod Lesriwd Gentleman. Sir .I..Ngwroor also remarked on the deficiency of education, and the necessity of bestowing it un Ireland. He was sorry that the Act far numbering the populatinii had not beet. somier put into force, because that, by 'hewing the extent of the want, would have brought the House au much nearer to the accomplishment of that object ; and be consi dered that in any measure of this sort as applied to Ireland, it should be distinctly borne isi marl that the great majority of the nation were of a different religion from that of the State. Mr. BROUGHAM explained. Sir JaNIES MACKINTOSH said lie had observed, whets he wrs at a distant part of the British domi nions, that the improvement of character conse quent on having been taught to write MU most apparent, and he had particularly observed it in the case of soldier% and sailors. It was needless for him to observe to the Howe on the great influence on moral conduct which was lust when the optinou of the family circle ceased to operwr ; for such thrre was no public opinion, no check from shame; ou the contrary, he had had oppoi tunnies of arcing in the letters of the soldiers and sailors, otitis's.. of a part of the island where e ducation was much diffused, letters which contained that little re mittance. to their friends at home, thus preseisi ig and keeping up the domestic affectitino, and at the same time giving birth to the virtues of trniperatice and frugality. That simple act of writing which the poet had eulogized, for what lie moat con sider as a more narrow and circuinscsibed ef fect. than those which he had observril it to produce; by it the absent soldier or sailor car. rind with him the regard of the domestic circle, avid was by it enabled to retain his tenancy% tiring of that home where he first drew his breath, and to which he hoped to return. This was, he conceived, employing the advantage of writing better than in "wafting • sigh from 'lidos to the Pole."—The question was then put, and leave was given to bring in the Bill. BERWICK ELECTION. Mr. RENETT (of Wiltahirr) reported from the Committee on the Berwick Election the absense of Mr. Roberts from the Committee on the ground of indisposition, and the certificate of Mr. Wilson, a surgeon. was produced to that Net. Mr. ROBERTS'S *errant was called in and esa• mined by the Speaker, but he could not inform the House the reason why Mr. the sur geon, was not in attendance. A Member stated, that he was obliged to attend as a lec turer at one of the Hospital.. The question was thea pot from the Chair, that Mr. Ro berts be 'sensed front encoding the Berwick Electioa Com mittee that day, when Mr. Wen* rose and objected in point of form to the Howie proceeding on the mere certificate of a mrdu•al mail, and suggested that Mr. Wilma should be ordered to &timid the House to-morrow. A desultory conversation Pawed on the point, in which Mr. Abercromby, Lord Cesilereetyk, sad Mr. "yes, parte. tipated. The matter wa■ ■ltimately postponed, to give se opportunity fur Mr. Wilson to attend. DIeFRANCHISEMENT OF GRAMPOUND. Lord Julia IttniaELL. observing the laicism of the hour. and the exhaustion of the House after the lung ■ed elimpseet speech of his Hon. and Learned Friend, would wish to postpone the important sulkieet of the di.frauchisemeut of Granipoutid till tu•wurruw, if he were slut fearful it would iuterfere with the unitios of se Hon. Member opposite. Mr. Blown nine understood) objected to putting off Ms mutton, which stood for towtorrow. Afters few words from Sir James %matoTosw and Mr. V. FITZettALD— Mr. lisowigs nauseated that Lord John Russell's motion should have the precedency of his on (be morrow. Sir J. NEWPORT Kis;e notice of a. ovation. but ibe Noise wiirk prevailed in she Hauge and gallery preerut ed uur hearing the import of it. DISTURBANCES IN IRELAND. Mr. DALY rage to Cell the attelitioll of the [louse to the disturbed state of that part of +eland with which he was connected. and of which he bad given notice. One tau.e of the disturbances might undoubtedly be traced to the wretched state of the popslalioo. Another cause was, the more isolated manner of living which the Irish peasant adopted, nut as in Eitel:mil, congregating together in villages, where the eye of his neighbour funned a check, and a very considerable check too, upon his conduct, lie would trouble the Moose very shortly with some of the ciscionstances which hail fallen within his own ob pervailiiii, to enable them to form IbtAr judgment on the propriety of the motion with which 1w should roe elude. le the district artjolisiiig 14.011e0latiltat the Ma gistrates bail engaged, with the aid of sixty of the %%di tto y, to keep the peace in that district . ; hat that was 'erased them by the Government. After that refined the disntfee ttun considerably, sad the Magistrates of taus ate tritts asseutbl4,l and requested in be pat under Ike Prime Protection Art. Afterwards • skirmish took place between the military mid the disalreeted, in which several lives were lost, and a gentleinau who bail become oboomuus to the disturbers, from his activity, was shut iu moue day. The Magistrates amemlrled, salescriptions were entered into, and rewards offered for the discovery of the nttuderml, bat without success. Military assistance was applied for, but the country was Awls considered in sorts a state, that the Government could not trust a smaller body, of men then one hundred and fifty to be mot on that duly. The Ueversiment thew pot silt bunnies ityvbe eastern part of the cesium, of Gulwey under the Pore Prot"lteu Rill, To wards the middle of Npvemtwr one whisk roustry was rte pnised, snit, roconrated by the inacttekty of the Uu tbrty compieseed the 'Beek et Geistlevee's houses.; spoon's. of sestet, were so attacked, lord either forcibly entered or the attacking party beaten rig.. Bi.t he. would ask if that was • stale of the coon., y . At 14 he •llowed !--a" Hese. Amor.)-110 the month of N, sienalwr sixty men contd. out he spared. Ind in Fel/mai, Aillowien if,. Guirernnient would aesol 3.500, and the whole country was overspread by them, previously to which the rilwis„ fur so he might call them, hal with • force of 1,200 ..r 1,500 men, regultrly mist-Iced sad binned • vilmge They had ;Marked the police barrack., and in rote instivi.e bad maintained a regular battle with the police. atm we • chiefly old soldiers (else assailants coutisting o and hail emulsified the attack fur Gee boons. (lea not he would strain ask. a At riicumstence to i.e into iii into When he considered that vteeuiy Magististra had nevi.. to the Guverisment bush in England and Ireland, ■ ' when he considered that • bolletio had been ism'. by the Home Lkpartment on a eionnterativsly tty *cc,- lion at Glasgow, he could not hot think apps cal ion deserti 4 a more resist tiro' coosideration. He hsd the authority of our of the Lords Justices fur rt)ing, tissi rb Insurrection Act, or some other strong mcouri. •111 come *hemline!, oreremry fur preservinz u.. pence t the country. It might he said that ~,,, the people was now changed; but bow n:11 that Hail great marnbers come in under the Goternthent ).r.,ei maim. trf pardon ! He would affirm *Wolter fro of r . tradietion, that not 50 mess had accepted the terms of ibtt proclamation. When he rumor" that the wog tow he intro.:. 1 to propose was hkety to heronries,' by Gore. iimeot. he Its communicated with the 'Pothooks of the ennhoty, with it.. magistrates, and rid, Catholic geutlemen also, who a.I concurred in the necessity of some Simile memoir. • bring adopted, r the country would he iti a most awful slate. He would out hostile the Horse rtth rsadtn s ea tract. from all his letters on the subject, but one frit, Mr. D'Arey, the chief magistrate of the ...fruity. sent by the Government, was most important, as it culispletely agreed in the semivowels of the other Magistrates, tlytt some strung messier* was necessary. Whatever list me-ottre migl.t lie would certainly mot concur in any thing but whist would leave the trial by Jury uotoochod. The connive vas at present cowered with troupe, and yet nutragea einitinned to be committed; It. entreated the Hour to rousider, whether, whets the long nizhts came, listters woohl hot be worse. He bad beard that Killtesey, Cutts, and the North of Ireland, were out perfectly framed Under the circum stances he had slated, it was he cousidered the ditty of the Government to protect the peaceable and total, and guarantee to them the benefit* of the roissidutisin. He concluded by snering that a ticket Committre be append ed to examine till" she progress and existence of turtiances in belated, and whether it be necessary to grata to the Govtruinent of dm Country, ally additional patine, and to moult thereon to the House. .4 Member, whose name we could not learn, wooded the mot i ~,, . Air. C. GROiT said, lie felt it liits duty, 'peek.. log the sentimelits of the Lord Lietstrointit nod the Government of Ireland, that there was 1.. ground whatever for an Insurrection Act. He felt it to he his duty to op. pose the Hinionralde Gestlentaies motion, not nal, on the grimed of tile late period of the ges so ., whi c h 80 0. eluded the lika of bringing the proposed inipory to nay conclusion, and titat lw considered • sufficient genenol,- hat sumo he *mild oppose it on the grou nd that if the inquiry were entered upon, it did slot propose to go far rootlet. He should be Inc lookiog a little to the gamuts—(likaej—to the causes butts general atsJ local. Did Gaullism's, know the uature of that Insorrectiott Art to whirl, allosino bad bora made That Act authorised the Lord 1.0 mensal, by hie Proclemsti ~,,, to declare Amoy district within its operalsOlit that Act enabled Magistrates to take tip and commit 110 . prison prof person found out of hi, bowie Itelfrreu insibbet and sun-rise; by that Act a Se.sirois was always eittimr, fore which the offender might he taken, thud orders' she iistervention of a Grand or • Petty Joey, tint solely by she judgment of %midi Petty Sessions, acting oath r the 1/11hIllaier of psssions and feeliuga incidental to local islet...dittos'' such offender might, fur that uffehice, be transported for sent% years. That was the Act olisels the Govirnment were tom piniocil of for not causing to Ise re.rnart...l. Ile (41r.Grent) hail been toll that if the aiversainent frit reluctant to do this they would forfeit the confidence of the Gime tennis of Galway, but he orchid appeal to she Hume whether for Its sit he eell(M to forfeit she conetteere of the Irish people. la addition to what he had stated of the lasorreetiois Act, there was in it a clause empowering a Slatristrate to furee ad mission into the house of a suspected person, and if the owner was absent be might he staters up as idle sod disorderly, and thus transported ultimo' trial Ly Jury. True It was the Act authoris...l the Sessions .t their discretion tb try by a Jury, but hic belieeed that was • discretitio which they never had exercised. The Host. Mover hail paid it was not his ittiet.tma top.•• the lusurrection Act, but only I mitigated sperita of it ; he (Mr. Grass) would of the two rather have the I surrect ion Ac', with all its enormities, fur those very enormities afforilett some security against their long continnaore ; bet.. miti gated Act might be cossidered as a permanent Act, and tie would reverse the prayer of the lyric port awl sat " Not gently on shy suppliant's bead, Dread Goddess, lay thy chastening hind, Brat in thy goreun terrors clad." He did nut undervalue the information the HothGestlemas had received, hut must entirely dissent from Ilse conclusion which be bad drawn, that it was of such • nature as to jus tify so strong • measure as the one proposed. The least accounts he had received represented the rosistrY as in apparent tranquillity at least. He did thot,mi-su to say that all would be peaceable there in ruttier who would predicate that of Ireland most be a hold man; but be thought that the system of goveruntebt which was roamed till the middle of the lase reit" was the priaeipal cause of the altuatioa in which Old cdpatry, was placed ; end this was worthy of 'serialise rooaitlerattosi the present juncture, and might teach them trot to attempt fur temporary purpesee any inftiugement of greet general principles: " for a Moment It might save yon, but you were sore to lay op • store of future repentance."--s'efear / Marry of the causes of discontent were vrithio the resell of the great healer time, others were within the pewee of the local authorities, and mete were, risque violably. ..natter of legislative interference; bet then those that were Iv that latter class were of such notoriety, that it count nut for an inatant be contended that a Committee wot., he. tensity to be appointed lkie ingisiriug tofu them. The system which the Government had pursued was to try all the civil means in their power, arid at lath; D' h al failed, to supply a moderate military forte. He defended the Government front the charge of Macho( treated Ole 1111101P11- tailors,. of the Magistrates with coutemely ; and he 4411 tet consider that there was arty evideut•e to ahew .1 hat the estarder of Mr. Brown was instigated by the sealuirs eartecistrei bit public duty. He coutended, that so fie front the Closhaffsfilpre having neglected the communieation of the neehlteery, Col. Stratton had been cxprusaly seat by the Goveremeekeir st range with the Magistrates as to the dimpshilitm atslfwsotlst of the inditarrforce which would be requisite. -The Peace Preservative Bill was • graduated step, adomentelfeeriebe suresclius Act bed been allowed to 'spire; a:id sbacilket was so allowed so expire at • time who s sinew vivo% Ise ow ) , jest bees hoops-hoed in the cmiutos Tipoermy shed Bet what was few case slow) allowing that Stew kemb been distarloacos, they had hems iluppremed, and that• wittiost the alder the Insarrectios Aet. The cussottes.of Chow sued Mayo ketst bees 'Sweetened, hot there the peeve area otter served by the spirited exert's,* of the reddest -embletriers and retry : that such crsednet had sot Ire" othiwersalseseld appear from the charge of Judge Daly,. who hest . * mimeos terse accessed mom individsselo triarktroe sh , lb. siebt..•s actin wish timpanists*, sed• allbreting Netstralety, is (feet if they could, by such ihnuterrentahle crass, !sett*, of their property. The Right • Horewurrehle Gem. tkosis then proeretkd to protest minima, 1110:1111Mloirewee to those maxims% by which Ireland *lle semi M tut mi. replies to the general speech sad Spirit isf aim giu. yeeogesst—(Ater, beetresdof 11l calarettiewhb ^might it was sot the least to he eselloselly tesorteng letekereordh. it.., neessiirrm.—(firece, hoor,)--k • trot iojori3Oos was Me. Oskar", awl . the superior orderooksoriety r old* ilews, , M inced of equally restraiming amdliseiectiert boldellihr pier and dee rich, were swede orly esoletratit • the pi . ..N*lMb 100 Isrotrit she ettli, sold maibe tlete ft= s' sllogrmeagy could ueacr be created,mods Wl OW fog Nor toey . 11