The Sun. — London, England, 1813-04-01 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PA It LI AM ENT. MUSE OF LORDS, VIFSDNESDAY, MARCH 31. A great deal of private business was pied of. The Newfoundland Corn Trade-and the Canada it u m Exportation Bill, severally passed through Committees of the whole House, and were re ported without any amendment. The Earl of DARNLEY moved for the production of an Account of the number of British ships of war on the North American station, on-the first days of every month since April, 1812, as far us the same could be made up, distinguishing the description of vessels, &c. which, On the question being put, w•.,s ordered accordingly, • two .Exchequer 13ills ,Bills were read a third time and . passed ;:as were the British and Irish Sugar Drawbuck - .Bills. t The remaining Bill's on the table being forwarded, their Lordships adjourned till to-morrow, when the Royal Assent will be given bf colllllli6Sioll to several Bills. • - • • • . HOUSE OF COMMONS, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 3L Mr. LUSHINpTON brought up Minutes of the evidence taken on Tiles(lay.night before the Coul niittee on the affitirs, of the East India Coni,. Pa n t. Ordered to on table, and to be printed. Mr. Titomrsoti presented a Petitiou from the Dock Company Of Kingston-upon-IEIII, against the Renewal of the East India Company's Charter. • _ _ _ Sir FSEDERICK FLOOD, as Member for the County of Wexford, presented to the House of Commons a Petition, ,►'-ned by several of the Gentlemen, Clergy, ann Freeholders of that ex tensive County, particularly from the Inhabitants of the towns of Enniscorthy and Newton Berry &c, agaist a clause in the Wexford Harpour Bill, which seeks to lay a duty and tax on on all coals imported into that town, for the local purposes of lighting and paving that town; which duty, on such a necessary of l►fe, he said, would affect the Inhabitants of that County at large ; therefore, Sir Frederick, on behalf of the objected to such a clause. EARL OF MOIRA'S LETTER. Ur. WiliMeAD before the House proceeded to business., wished to soy a.few words which re.. fated to a subject on which he had of late several. times addressed the. House. fHe had hoped that be should not have had occasion ttguin to bring before the House any thing which related to that disagreeable business, which be had hoped was put at rest for ever. But certain circumstances of so 'extraordinary a nature had occurred, that be thought. it his duty to call the attention of the lionse towards them. In a public Paper of Mon day a letter had appeared, whieh purported to he from the L'arl of Moira to a Member of a Lodge of Freemasons. This letter contained a very 'ex. traordinary paragraph, to which he wished the at tention of the House to be directed. Lie had, however, first to state, that the public understand ing seemed to be, that all the examinations on the subject to which he alluded, bad been stopped, and that the whole matter had been put to rest. This understanding hatl been sanctioned by the circumstance of the Princess Charlotte haring vi sited her Mother. lie Was driven to the hasty step (as some might call it) which he was about to take, breause Lord Moira, the person whom it principally concerned, was to proceed on Friday on his way to India. He should not allude to the other topics of the letter. But the paragraph which he had mentioned was of such as nature, and its Obvious construction was so extraordinary, that the Noble Lord should not be allowed to leave the kingdom, ,without proving what was contained in i,t, and explaining the ch cumstances which had led to : such assertions... The Honour able Gentleman then read the paragraph to which Le alluded it was as follows . When the Prince did me the honour of. re lating to me this representation of Lord Eardley's expressing great uneasiness that the asserted no toriety of the interviews a*: Belvedere, and the comments of the neighbours, should force biin'io take any public steps, I suggested the possibility that there m Misapprehension of be' Misapprehensio of the cir cumstances; and I. intreated that, before any other procedure should be dkermined upon, I might send fOr the steward (Kenny), and the porter (Jonathan Partridge) to examine them.----This was perthitted. sent for the servants, and . questioned them. My report to the Prince was, that the matter had occasioned very little observe 'Om in the house, none at all in the neighbour baud, and. that it was entirely unnecessary for his Royal Highness to notice. It in any shape. . The servants had been desired by ate never to talk upon the subject ; Lord Eavdley was Warmed that his conception of" what had been stated by the ser %rants found to be inaccurate ; tia mention was e. t . er made to any one; not even to the Lords who eandacted the inquiry, three years afterwards, of the particulars related by the servants; and the circumstance never wonld have been known at all, had not the legal adVisers of the Princess, for the sake of putting a false colour on the investigation, indiscreetly brought it forward. The death of Kenny, in the interval, tempted them to risk this procedure. jonatban Partridge having been known at the time when he was questioned to be elevated to. th e•Prin cess, from his declaration to the steward, to one can doubt but that her Royal Highness would the next day be informed by hint of his hav ing been .examined. 'The nicasnre was most- of teu,,ve,. if not justified by some ntreomniOn peen-. iiarity ciretnnStkniee. Yet alisohne silence 1,4 rve•‘erN ed upon it for so long a period by her Royal nigh at tss's advism ; a lotbearanee otOy to he ol v,;cl by their beiog too cautious to touch upon the point while Kenuy was alive." When tirst read this paragniph, the con: struc.tion which heat Once put ,upon it, and which om be conceived to be the ost obvious, was, that - - there Were certain within the knowledge of li viw y, which ilaVe proved criminality on the W.O.t. (It the Prineess of Wales ; and on that -tress bad purposely abstained trout bringing tortVitrei : Kettity, as a witness. Under the conviction` that the meaningol the paragraph was such, he intended, upon Monday night, to have brought Abe matter before the House. But on reading the . paragraph over many times, he found that another construction might be put uponit, which, thentgli the very reverse of that which had at first occurred to him, was probably the right one.—The passage might be construed as insinuating that the evi dence of Kenny was not called for, ,because his =testimony, instead of eliminating, would coin , pletely establish the innocence of her Royal High - 'less. This was not all : there was another.part of the paragraph deserving of more serious consi deration, and which most certainly recniired ex planation. He alluded to that part of it which said that "Jonathan Partrid;e was knowu'at the time when he was questioned to have been devot ed to the Princess."—That it could he supposed for one single moment that a menial servant, a • porter to-my Lord Eardley, should he at the devo- .- tion of the Princess of Wales, and that he should convey to her Royal Highness information on the subject of his examination—all this tvra3 most CN-• traOraillftry, and called loudly for explanation ; and if the Noble I;ord was allowed to leave the kingdom without explaining it, atothing could t he" done in the matter after his departure. lf,• fultv=l ever, there had been nothing more thah this, he would have allowed it to pass ; and if it had been allowed to pass till his Lordship' should leave. the kingdom, it would he passed irremediably. Ile fotiad, front remarks wide') bad .appeared in a pub lic paper of that day, that the construction which, %vas put upon the passage was the same with that which he had himself at first put upon it ; and indeed it was certainly the most obviouS. Find ing that it produced ,upon the mind of the public an impression untavottrable'to the character of her Royal Highness, he thought it his duty to submit to the House it motion on the subject.' Lord Moira being a Nobleman of high rank and cbaraeter,and character and having hech professedly the author of a paragraph which had conic before the pub lic, the interpretation of which wits at best dubi ous, it was certainly his duty, and he was sure it would he his wish to give a proper explanation of all the circumstances which led 'to It, bei:ore quitted England.' He understood that Lord Moira acknowledged the letter; and he was therefore sure, that it would be most congenial to the kelings• of his Lordship to appear before the representatives of the.people, to givesuch explanation as was ne- • eessary. fie had hoped that the a g itation of any thing connected with thy subject of his motion would have been rendered unnecessary, and that every thing relative to it had been.stopped ; it therefore gave him great pain to be 'under the ne cessity of bringing 'such matter again before the House. He was persuadeerthat further disclosure and discussion, on a subject so nopleasant and so repugnant to . the feelings of every inan,coulti only be put an end to,'by a recognition Ott the part of his Royal Highitess the Prince Regent himself, of the innocence of his consort. This alone, he was sure, could pea a sell!. upon the matter. How such a recognition could taste pla.Ce, it was not for Lim to say, neither was it his duty to suggest:: It Yt''tlS' certainly the duty of Ministers to take some step' on the siehject, us any comniuniention with his Royal Highness on such a matter, would come best from them. He wos convinced that the first step to such a recognition Would be to give to her Royal' Highness a suitable establishment ; and this of course it was the duty of Ministers to suggest; but if they did not,• it might in that case be a fit' subject for a motion, to be brought before the House upon some futtire , occasion; At all events he was convinced that nothing but such a recog nition could be the means of putting a seal upon the matter. He then moved, " That a Alesgtagv be Rea to the Lords, to desire their Lord ;Lip to gritUt leave that the, Earl of Moira 0101.1i(i !)..t la4ore thig Howe, to give an. eN).l:auttion at the bar, touching . certain ;natters his knowledge, relating to her Itoy4l flightless the Vrinceis of Woks." The SPEAKI:vit, before putting the question beg ged leave to say a few words on the nature of, the motion of they. Honour►►ble Gentleman, Hevished to,give the house advice upua it, for such he cc►n ceived to lie his duty. So far as he was - informed of the habits of Parliament, be believedtuat it was not villal for the House of Commons to call upon any Member of . , tLe other House to give informa tion or explanation on any 'subject which did, not iiiimediately relate to a matter depending before the House. If a message should be sent to the Lords, requiring the attendance of a Peer to give information to the House of i any subject uncon nected with any thing before the House, the. Lords would immediately reject. such a messlige, and would return for answer,• that before a message orthat nature could be complied with, it would be necessary that the House should resolve, to enter up:rn• an investigation. -He therefore remit- Mended to the Hort. Gentleman t.► witi►draw his motion, or at least to suspend it, until the matter wit 4 which it was connected shituld be the subject of an inquiry in the House. Lord CASTIAREMAT felt it his duty to represent to the House, in that state of the affair, the im propriety of such a `step as that which Itaa been taken by the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Whitbread). He was surprised that the Hon. Member should again address the House oa subject, which he had made, for a sixth time, a matter of discussion, only to agitate the public mind. The Hononrable Mover should have called Upon them (o rescind the principle of the llouse, and have re(jairo them to go into the consideration of sonic Cllllll.- teal matter connected with a tran4actiou which was not matter of investigation it) the, Hon3e.-- Being averse to such discussions, he should not pro's arguments on the subject any farther. lie would only say, that he was surprised at the con clusion o f the Member's speech. In hi s former speeches, that Hon: Gentleman had dwelt upon the propriety of deciding on the guilt or in nocence of tip Princess, of Wales ; but on that night lie seemed only to hesitate about al , est a b... lishument fo:. her, without saying any thing about the guilt or innocence of her !loyal Highness.-- Ile concluded by expressing his regret that any thing relating to this unfortunate business bad ughin been brought before the Hou se for h e was vonvinced, that' nothing fiw the public good' could result Irma the interference of Parliament. Gentleman Wished that the qitestion should be put? :Mr. WinTnEAn conceived into be his duty to have the question put, iotwithstanding what °had been said on the subject by the Speaker. The SPEALIea said, that he had thought it his ditty to state to the House his opinion:as to the, propriety of the motion. Lord CASTLEREAGH moved us an amemiment, " That the Orders of the Day should be read." Mr. PoNONBY observed, , that the constant practice of Parliament had been' that which was stated by the gpeaker ; and that there was no in stance in which that House had desired the at tendance of a Peer, unless to'give 'evidence on some proceeding depending before the House.— The reason of this-Was Very, obvious ; it was he cause the other House . 'could not judge of the propriety or impropriety of allowing'the attend omie of a Peer, unless they were acquainted the nature of the proceeding on which his infor mation was req9ired, by tbarprocceding having been depending before the House ; and also that the Peerhiniscif, whose attendance was required, could not judge of the-fitness of his compliance with the' request of. i the Hoiise. disapproved of the tootle of proceeding• of his Hon. Friend, whether it was adopted for the purpose Of raising a question in the House, or with the intention of having the House agree to the one which he had proposed. lie should, however, make a sug gestion whieh he hoped mould not be deemed im pertinent ; it was, that instead of the House tak ing any step on thEt occasion, since 'the persons . concerned had.cho-utt a ne wspaper as the vehicle for conveying their sentiments to the public, they might as well be Allowed to have recourse to the saute means for ,communicating any further information. - • Sir F. Be RDETT thought that it was necessary that there should he some termination to the gross calumnies which had so long been spread abroad, affecting- the character of her Royal Highness ; and this termination. was .most likely to he poi cured by•some net on the part of the Prince Re ,gent himself. He could ,not agree to what had been said by the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) about' the interference of the Commomi on such a sub ject. There were cases in which the House had terminated such ediett:ision,' without taking any particular steps ; • and this from an understanding that the advisers of the Crown shindd advise such Measures as might effect the - object in a manner more . desirable,, both as 'it regarded th e p u bli c and the Royal Family. It was certainly expe dient that her Royal Highness should be de clared to be, innocent of those charges which had.been made against' her, and which could not be affixed to her without affecting the other branches of the Royal FaMily. And there' would be no just cause for surprise, if, at some future time, any Member, follow. ing the example of the lion. Gentleman (Mr. Whitbread), should think it his linty to submit to the House some motion, the object of which would he to effect that recognition which • was so desirable: He could not agree 'with those pessons. who thought that no advantage had resulted to the public from what had been sai4 in the Hdtage .upon the subject. On the contrary, be tho ug ht that the discussion's which had taken place, bad beets productive, of very great advantage, for th-q ;:bad been the, Means of .showing hots' unfounded 'those calumnies were which had been eirenhtted ;against the Princess of Wales, and they hattheen the means of completely establi;hing the inno :eence of her Royal Highness: As it respectedthe .intention cif ,the., Hon. Mover, the motion had his entire. conetirrence ; but, as it had been justly • Said, that there was no precedent fOr requiring the attendance of a Peer at the liar of titellouse, , to .give in On any sub ject. not conneette t h some proceeding depending before the Rouse ; .and as, on this account, there was eve.ey 'pro bability, that the'Lord, would refuse to comply ti i,h the message, he suppOsed that the Honour able Gentleman voultl not press,' the motion any . • farther. Mr. M. A. TAYcoa said, that by common con sent, there ~tented to exist a de-Are that the mat ter conneeted'with the question before the House sbould . he put an end to ; and this being the ge neral feeling of the public, it was probable Out it %void(' have been pia an end to for ever, if ,by the net of his Hon. Friend it had not been re newed. if his lion:. .Friend meant,, well to the Prineess at NVales (and he was sure be did), he would abstain from bringing any thing, wore be fore the public which related to the conduct of her Royal Highness. This would have been the wisest step to insure silence on a subject, the nitation of which gave pain to every cone, and which never ought to have been, discussed within the '.ells of that House. tie should not offer any opinion on the merits of the question proposed. lie hoped that his Hon. Friend would think bet ter beforp b e took any other s,tep in ti at busine,s. if the Prince itegent should think proper to send a-message to the House On the stlect, it would then be their duty to enter into a discussion upon the subject. ‘But until this should happen, no thing could induce hiw to give his consent, to any measure, the tendency of which was to keep alive matter.; conne.eted with the conduct Or the Prin cess of lifales. On these grounds h..: should vote for the amendment. - • Mr. WiiSTERN spoke in favour of the Motion of his Honourable Friend (Mr. Whitbread.) As fax as he understood it, it met with his entire corictu 'Thee, becau,e its object was, and lie was certain that its effect would be, to quiet the pub lic mind. : M.r'CANN,lisla said, that as he bad- not been in the liouse at the commencement of the debate. until he heard the speech of the Member - who had last addressed the Howie, he did not know that any motion had beerkl mde; and, thinking that what - vvas going OH Was one of those irregular eon irers:tiOas whii4l hail of late taken . place ou sever rail occas'kon he had inttnliled tei have abstained from taking any partin it. Bat as be widerstood that there crri a' motion before'the be wished' to state - why he fihonld his yote for the reading of the Orth'rs of the Day Jim' agreed with the Hon. in thinking that the last Aisoussion lirid ended with an unrirvilibn that the jabject was finally pct's stoleto nnios sOnie,par-: ease aboidd • 'nett b4gt,t be an eittehle-Ctie t-i tc bicii t)ii $l l, taion of matters connected with t h e itilije , might gti to so great an extent, that tilt parr t h i l l i e ti li d o co us u e ld . o ß ol i y 4 b t levoli ti e t i i i ie i t l e e tl i b i,t v a tl tl e : ( i ) occurrence of such a ease was prissible,thetillt:i was accosiipaiiied by a hope that matte f ,7, riot be pushed td such 'an eAtremity. 1v1,„ possibility was conceived, the interference ..i';Fi 'lament WAS a matter of discretion. • 11e5.b7i s ces r s rY ity t : -I s t(:fle,fidnde Ki:l:l,Vl:3bltilitillgfitrebiewecia.escristli!itt(hir:o to state whether he thom.Tlit that stick a net`.. , a li t is tl i i l a ii t n( t i i;i n n is, e t x h i a s t te l :l l , , he shotilcl licit l'e' l . t ` l .': . answer in the negative... Another .iiiipti"o"'s sitm on the subject, there %vas one hope 0,7, goad eies° l t i . i t e l iT t and te r a il : tell ngoatoit°lalsibt'th7j;:itlislilegil:"tcit:lteglilin'r'teil''';'iilliillell'l.ll betrayed a want of knowledge-of the l'ffi * *,,l e di meter to suppose that such a discussion te' r ' r , ; promote the object..of briaging., the " - '' t. i ippe termination, Tim . . should b e g ive ? tf)r I'd gip,, 'ation• of all feelings upon the sollie ct ' $: Olio' tilone wool(' lead to the result. 00,greqt.04 tion whit he. Init . ! to the revival of 1 0 14,0 'v l " , that they removed the,time 0 1 ?"'' t s ) . 4ciial 'l A t i eliatice of that tenni tuition toll grelteroi,edoil F e coneei ved 'that this time was alto! t op s afi t t , ' ,:lniew from every discussion in t halll ib ' t .,,,, f... t ii the - 'bile which had elapsed bet sy , c ., q , 0, ''''' mer discus ; , i.on and the one the)) '14"' 6 0 ,, 01)11 ca l e °: ii :. t il l sicl i li O lelle'Y t t i t i ttu i e' s e:ti t sie' e l:i'i r nt l e i lrt i n n if°l° a nn'i t . i .t o lja i c i ill , Yis % Pe v i l i t cl i ee c bali°w:llll%iir:ile.:llc‘.':'''':3ll:‘iveCh)litii' able. . • , a ' Of iNI • W i ... ' 1• .. HITBREA.., for the lollop-11i? 0,, Right tionotirtible Gentleman wilt' 'l! ( ' ‘ i ne g erci Ntated the eireumstancCs tvliicli had "„- N tee to bring forward his motion• fi e then r ho t t ui r g.: e a d l in i i s s : t : t re tlit r iern t ir l i i l l: e tyi a tt r bi g i ec ti N( T io e ff i be l t ri s ni t i l t • i l ,il l i i ll ci c h i „ h i ) ai h ad i s , t a i s le a t rolit . ical. antagonist he fel(tCl3-:)tinenirFalilllll ~ ecusation whiell the . Noble 1 - 4)1.1. ` 11 0 0 °gluts( lvini';')l 1)61101 ii r forward that 10° 01 4 l a vi t s e il s . a t i o t ,.tt i g ie it i i i t a te d t h h ee t ' el p i l l 'i a li e l t ic tin a t i c ii i i i d. b) l , le- p t ;i 4 /; he might have pressed Upon the Nn ble , „at, matter which Was the subject of eetlji".o'. aimut the examinations wilie h it , ''l sil ')l ' were at that time going on. Til ( " e , ''' ' ‘ -ft, couldnot be justified on any gtok''''''"' 'is° it was rumness they had been dr"ri ° ,:,liii not carried the matter any farther. li c 0j i,,,!, 4 House and the Noble Lord to ben' . it ' i ( i,Jr. 1 Circumstance. Hi s Lic,nourahle Frie'''' ' d rii for ) bad said, that the less the iii&te'',Vi:Jcii upon' the better would it be for t': i i : le oj /V 41 e 9 . He supposed that it was 'l'4lloo'i the less these things were canvassed i'litiotioil. the more dignified Would be the P it ~ ,rst4', the Illustrious L'erson whom they et'n c ' ei „in tout)))s) was unnecessary for hint to sty al , PP et ttiloar:ilitigttillier.:%itt'ilt.eointilitey conthicrtr(ll;iterbi.el,,,ti)ll4).° netts the Princess of "%Vales. A IliV bit Gentleman (Mr. Canning) had' a t_ olcioPri(acti:ris,lteic:a.refinii)::::::itttiliituttcitilaleielsk.lecu:)hthsrictitu:i e4 r t o c , as l l . el:It it ) ab ishine to lin . ~,b,,c 1 o f joStiCet ' )based first espoused, and that he onlY l' es . r i i f t t; 1. - denied. Nfelitinf?tr'u °cLlPtiribeceisesscs4ll‘c:igriltlaitsott:';e was, that the question of An esoddi',lo,ol:. be canvalsed, In that House. , A'" 1 1 ; r ! i bst i '', acquittal, of the of Wale' t \ o n of 6 : and , by mankind,—after the proscellb . lit )' o il :fitlieies for . perjury' wits foto'l" tu h:cid l ' i ;; . 7 —when certain persons could iit.'t }i .,l o .ctit'r bar, to answer for the pithiiCati ' isc fo'', and 'if extreme necessity was to "'' ' O 4OO l novel or.extraordinary c ireuros ti ' l , e . e . of - ti occur ; he contended that tlii . ' c s 'i' ic. `, it iaal necessity had occurred by the 1 1 ,",!iOd 1 , 4 t7 -i letter, one paragraph of whiel' ` )- L i ' l li / 9 ',lii his own part, he thought that to i''', 7 o'o , a termination, only one act of rceof-o't it l th 4 part of the Prince waS iieceo,ol' ,:it,',P that act was abstracted from l'itriol t i,i 9' the better. He then apologi,"1: to pin P. for iiisi,ti4g upon having At iine' t4 : l l nt 11 ' his advice. Ile then adverted t''' men u`' . l (w ii said by his Right' liononsable ErDart4 soupy) about the reasim why the b e c;1 0 : 0 refuse to comply with the oles g3 g l e i :h in f ; ° , ( 4 did not know the subject op w't i c iait . 1 ,0 was -required, auk theres)re c oil , ' ,ec iie - ( the propriety of compliance• s"'l tio d ~ wording of his motion, that it we ll at i o v t .‘ii larly the .subject tin. which inf'olll_l,)ir 1.9. quires'l, fsO that , it wits tiot Pos,'", 0 0 o,' on the acute of a want of knowleqi' tlio. ,lect. Ile .concluded by hoili l4 ' tb fil °lll 4 : 4 would not be discussed again in , t1 04 ,,, , ,tr57., if any thing further of a novel (11 : 1 i ; it Pr nature should occur; he s holtid 6 , 1 ! co o. to dis,:mss it in the House. ..1..01'Y desinotis than be was, to bare o,e b i i i t* lice); hue should therefore' strive 1(' !i l itr - ii <, t hen;, 4 lijitti think Old' in the event of itn.Y ---' •Ogs-4..ri peeling, it would not be necessarY 07Ait i't her4re the house. Nniiii lig 1 13 ,1 11 1 t i t o % rod a case Of extreme necessity cot! dt , c .., - bring forward the matter on did! . e'e. jiir division. . i I. i tl fu t "" lit 7~0 iner period-a...410r should to , rii i ii ,t o ,ii The Qiiestiou was then pio , v, er icti ment of Lord Castlereagh %%.• ' ' A ,ds a. / 11-.' . • t i tt:a EAST '04) 1 3. C.°l:\ll • 'TO t 'or • ell I 0 li t O The House then . resolved its ell tai'. s Ai . o( Ill:, IP:A inittee ; when the Counsel ~....Aaa,,l'. ,iv ..1 proccedetl to el.:atnitie iNfr. ‘..,,-,i.c,i oi , to ept,, was nearly similar to that th-"J.'' l %. (he v% ,1 0 0l lug dial . .TI) e nidniler ire :'i7bit'ili,l: ti t7 i; l p hi:s -ans,,vefs wa s objectot to! tk i t ioa ,i f winds the close of his cle.'" lll : in fe' ir ',± tet4 phei. T o hi m t h e wituesst 1. - 1 .2 0 ,1 %. :0 ( 1 7 lilslsiiisePderhitiji":?trno stifficalhel3l:l:tti:lilli.;;tfilaili:‘;;Ctft-i4 t7,lrisorttiiiio,%tirtitik),Ohlibic)ltis;gokte,)llll,ll:ll-;tlit:e,tlollF tiP7 ilii einbareassnient, • lie ' 'morro'' to withdraw, and . to attend to - ile Al , 4 Lord 'l l -eigninouth A , fi'lle V' d o ' . -, lAA,: pvinence• _..,mee t wit s thePICI: or lio', L . , be 'GW,be