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they would lake their part la the teglid islet Body just l as any o ther Preys • as little iWillested Moir politca seat derOioes by religien, a, the !Members of this Hoag do▪ oming from the Established Church see. The Hon. Member for Oxford had affirmed thit it would create a to send Peers into the Hou se of Law& ( s 7 O - c ;,7 o: n r„ c j i iirg She oath of supremacy; but that WO not m, n , paeans objected to admitting Catholics to „pee, while they sew no danger in admitting them info the leC o l i tare ; o thers wool nal exclude them from ofli'e, b . leateda against istroducing them into the Leval'. , i He could foreoe no wanderer inconveniency from tither. Be wee ready In vote foe: any Bill which +mild re. • from tam any doetbility ;he would salmon a 8.11 for reuderiug them flied , as Magistrate,' ur Sheriffs, fur giving t h e m any p ri vilege, however slight, simply as au act of jaitice.—(Clesv a) Mr. R. MARTIN observed that one Hon. Memher had snot forward es Dee of the Homan, and had insinuated that the Eight Hint. Gentleman who bad originated the motion bad iou t ea merely for the opportnaity of melting a speech b▪ !rove Right Hon. Gentleman hail risked the c o a l ed o f him , Ilr We nn) or of soy who bare how to estimate the effect. 4:1 ht. elesiumice on the Haar, he would .reply in him, " 1 iltriOhOCC gigantic Powers Of SlOClntine Mill ittroeigb the Heine triompht," soil he thoeght tai this nirhi 'void shear the troth of the prediction. It WS not for him to movier for the Right Hun. Gentleuran, the M em ber for the lilmeersite of Dubli n (Mr. Plain-it), why he bad given up twinging on she general question,— Bat he, or any body actriuti d with the ape, t o 1 affairs is the part of the empire with which lie was connected, mould whout real iliffieutty ili.cover au snorter. At the time when the Right Hon. Gentleman hail been reepostril to beteg it r e named, a great srnsation prevailed in pins of Ireland, which induced aneey - to think that the consideration of the questioa night to be postennet ; and though this difficulty mai only a hypothetieil di tomb y, yet it Wen °neaten's( which he might nut to struggle. On the other hand, shire 11,1011 *fondant reforms to he disowned why the smaller Of •• acre should be aabusit led to the Hate. He should quote*. midwife which he thought wauld have some weight with the Wearable mud Leas-lied Gentleman, he meant Sir W., Bisekstese. Sir W. Blackstone, in his lecturea, isveighed irs much as man could against the penal code.---" Ifs time 'kohl ever arrive whet all fears of a Preieoder shall bre, oaidied, and the power and iefmence of the Pop e hi. femme feeble, ridiculous, sod despicable, it prolaminy void not then be amiss to renew sad soften these rigorous rdiets.'-oAnil if Sir W. Blarkutowe sat in this House amyl seen there is no Pretroder,. and when the tenets of the Catholics are so much changed (for they had renounced the Pupal power of deposing Princes—this end other sib oaiens doctrines bed keep Siemelly disclaimed by all the Universities in Spain, and that of De Lorain ; and the pre sent Pure had sheen the liberality of his opinions in sand ing to the desired securities)—Sir W. Blackstone, he re. pealed, weeld note in favour of This motion. He (Mr. Merlin) utterly disclaimed all acetifies. When they gave the Catholics prieilegis they took Viand fur their allegiance sad loyalty,. ad made assurance double sure. The Wow. Member eat dons declaring he should give his hearty assent to the motion. Mr. PEEL *aa sere the Nouse would agree with him, that after the •foll measure of indulgence which he had ex perieuced the lu s t time lie had addressed them, particularly when Inhariiii 'snare the disadvantage of following his Right Hon. Fitted, that it would ill become him to trespass tea their 'Melanins at present at much length. He rose prin cpally for the purpose of removing some miscoostructieu which had beau put upon his words during the last debate, and which he bad nut then au opportunity to take away. • But he felt himself called es previously to advert to the re marks of hie Howourable Friend the Member fur Galway; sod lie must say, that if not contest enith reading one page ef Sir William Blakstosse's Latina, his Homier- ! able Tonsil had read one chapter (he did net require him to wad the tabote moat), be raid net have relied so roilfidndly on his authority ; and if it were possible that Sir W. Blacisitose were raised frost the dead, seated in that House, aid about to vote on the present motion, he (Mr. Peel) would lay claim to his support ; sod did be propose to vote in favour of the motion, he would produce hum his ova firstalurse that which would skew be contradicted himself—that in which be raid that the Test Act and that 30th Charles U. were tuedonental laws of the Antrim. He should now proceed to remove a misconstruction to which his former observations had been sultjetecde Igo had &health% that his Right Hun. Friend (Mr. Canning), at the cud of the speech with which he introduced his mo no'', had *Oared that if the question shalt' be met On general grounds he 'Mehl consider it carried. He (Mr. Peel) bad accenting!, avoided dame so; be had end ed to examine the question en itsahrapectiliar grounds. He had bees, therefore, a little surprised, when it was after wards objected to him that he did not treat the question on general grounds. His object west have been oniaunder stood be had wished to limit hinoelf to the particular question before the House. With respect to the geueraleases nun, after this Hesse had coincided to eutertatu it, it was impossible for loon to anticipate such opposition as it had experienced in former time.; it was not pussible fur him nut to anticipate that the Catholic question might he tarried throagh the House of Commons. Bat nottutbstanding oven whclatiat majecities might support it, still he should MUM IIiSORO opinion, sod express them reapictiag it, as the principles of the Conetitution warranted him in doing. But he said, that Inking to the arguments in favour of the general genuine, those for the particular measure were pro tinder weskened. However hostile lie might be to the surreal of the general measure, still he should have sa interest in the arrangements bring as perfect as possible; sail renting thus, he did deprecate the agitation of the partial ohe. He del tent object to this because it was a partial measure. There were some partial measures respeetiug relief to ine Catholic,, for whites be would vole himself. He 'raid vote fir piecing the English Cathulits on the same lonia' as the Iriali.—(Hear, hear, hear). —As he hail said last Session, lie was not were whe ther he maid eet vote for coofeuring on Catholics eerie privilege appertainiog to the members of the bar, re eled*: them from the Bench; he alluded particularly to advantages from a silk gown. Rut he objected to this Bill tor this oleo', because being ;mond in its operation, it was general in its principle. The Husiourable Civilian said that the oppoutins of concession had been in the habit of askiug fir eimething specific, and that here it wee preseeted to them, but it was a partial one. It was eat because the Bill would admit six or seven Peers of high respectability into the House of Peers that he op posed it; that might be an artful way of potting the ques tion. It might be said, I will refer you to the character of the Doke of Nurfolk, the Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Clif find, ad so on ; and what is there in these men to cause yoo apprehension? But could any man in his senses not see that Ns KM full of sophistry ? The question wait, whe ther than Crowe was to be ended with the power of pleaug an unlimited 'limber of Peers in the House of Lords, where the Hummel Commons had no power of admitting Catholics tato a House of Commons limited In number? He wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Wynn, we believe) why he did not carry his arrionent respecting guards fur. t her, and silly it to the House of Commons, which be thought could routsol Catloiie Member* as well as the House of Keit. Ile had heard no vinsfactory ream" why a donation should he eatabli.hcd between the Hunan its this respect. Ilia Right floe. Frueittl hail solid that he would sake off these penalties hr.?, because they were the last imposed. If this srguineot were cool fur any thing, the inevitable runriulwa was, that as the restrictiou obliging the Crown lobe Catholic had been the last imposed, se it should be the not taken away. The Inman of Commune had beets ren. "reed Protestant wader Eli za b et h, t h e H ous e of Peers under ( 6 " l °' Ife the Cole.' at the Revolution. His Right Honourable Friend, therefore, according to bid own aigameut, shnold begin with the Crown. On the same mond be should cashier the propriety of removiue the Peels' a - • • illeollity to hold office. In order to evade the 'rzionent, abut as secusities had been required from Cathie. tic Commoneic securities should also be required from Cagle'. Peers; tlrey were now told that they were wholly MI. "miry ; that they were added merely to satisfy us his o f, .eil Protestants. When hey 0101114 come therefore teat Stenos, supporing this Bill to pea into a law, to conceder of the severities proper to be given by Catholics, entering the House of Commons, they world be met by the argument, It You hairy already thrown open one brunets of etusialettry,• laid tut kit th e t a thity le their eoislitnentson the Coastitution to Cathulies Without securities, you may (Laud and - protegee' cheecink faillawed the coeclusiou of safely open all." The Catkins of Ireland had, in fact, Ibis speec h ) very few prieilege• 16 took toy; they possessed every ry ei- M. ve WhLMOT explained. 'lege, with the exception of ndmissibifily to • few °Gees starched In the Act of 1793. But in arguing this question The Marquis of LONtlari DERRY kid, be Ind exprese tie was met by iscomtistencon ou every side. e at a strung opinion at the commencement of the Session upon the fitness of Si,! present mement for bringing fooled the Quo assess ludo, matanteen Prole* formes. geaeral emotion. From all the opportunities which had When they came to deal the rest of the Catholics, let them P•eseoted themselves Iti him, of collecting the emeritil feel consider with what argument they would he mil. " Why did log and diemisition of the people of this country towards BA you give the Crown the power to send Catholic Peers int o general priociple of the removal of the disabilities or the the House of Peer. without restriction, said why, when you Catholic subjects of the kingdom, he Wag firmly persuaded come to deal with the people, will it not be invidious (to use that the politic mind was beginning to look at the coestiou the mildest term) to &Maud securities from these I— i With less of alarm than formerly, and with a strong tendency When the former measure was under disreesioe, we gave i tat reconcile itself to the final selectee of the measure. 00 you fair notice that these were sauce ..... y." M r . p ee l th ee i that meceunt be bad felt unwilling that the suhject should be cited the declaration of (as we understood) Mr, Plus. I unnecesaaiile agitated, and thought that it might be moved krtt, that he would Wiest da Whatever eremitic, he with a greater probability or success if brought flatware' only thought just and reasonable. The Honourable Memb e r et intervals, anal taut pressed time after time, a. a yearly mo. for Newcastle (Mr. Wilmot) had said that be would be a lion. But, with that opinion upon the general question, hue creditor fur securities. He (Mr. Peel) yield till him, that Hight Honourable friend haviug brought forward this partial then he would never be paid one shilliog io the penind,—(4 measure, viewing it upon the particular grounds on which lough.)—Thin Bill was not merely ii Bill fur removing the I he hod placed it, he was disposed to give it his support. disabilities of Catholic Peers—bin it did something more, Much of the resistence to the general question tuns, Gem to which it was of great consegeelica to attend—it helot a the alarm which was felt by msuy or those who oppored it, roitat out of which he thought the must scrions diffienity Pis to it. effect on the general fabric of the Cons 'Union of would arise to his Right Hon. Friend. The Bill was in ef. the country, from throwing open the popular representation feet a Bill to exempt Peers from taking the oath of Si. to Remelt Catholics. That danger not arising iu the present premacy. Now in setting himself against this, he had a caoe, viialicated bet Right Honourable Friend in proposing whole host of mithorities in his favour—o( Pat, Ponsunhe, this partial measure, at an interval when the general ques• Grattau, stud many other distiognishod name/ from the lion was at rest. He collie understand wby his Right opposite side of the House. in the farmer ineesure • Honourable Friend near him (Mr. Peel) upposea this of relief, the oath of supremacy had been reserved, aid measure, from the fear of conceding the 'reveal principie. in that of last Sessiusi another was provided to be taken by He (the Marquis of leindoad , Try) yeas sue of ,tbose who Catholic Peers; so rumoured of these oaths were they, that felt the neremoity of securities._ He felt so, because he one was thought j e s u et e l eo t, Hat thi s measure re lie ve d th e caollrl not understand on what principle the Roman Cs- Catholic tom the oath of supremacy, established ever shier Biotic Chord; could refuse to *concede to the Government the time of Queen Elizabeth ; sod whet, the rielmies •f of this casuistry !list seem By against my internal imerference • Cithultes trona the thYese was proposed at the Revolastios, it • la the political concerns of the country, which at gave to. the .was effected by the iueseporation into the It'll of Bights' Governments of ether States. He had always, however, takes ,of the declaration against tranoubsimitiatiun, in the 30th a more limited stew then others of the nature of abe security 'Charles 11. sad the Bill of Riehta was looked upon as revery], aural Ilia nut think it necessary to extend it to the see craw most solemn, fundamental 14 , ra lon the statute exclusion of the Catholic Peers. He thought there was no is. bank. The Right lion. Gentletnais then uoticel a *imam re- consistency in resettleg this initial measure without metric easetment by the Irish Parliament, in the h I William 111, tines, sale keeping it Imes for (enure regulatiou as to the leech sad cited the words of the Bill of Rights, that its penvisioos (Ares of Siete. He firmly believed, if the whole measure of "should stead, remain, and be the law of the lanai for ever." cencession were givrn to-morrow, the power of appointing to 'There was lo the Bill of Rights an express provision, that Ay' offiees stilt remaining in the Crown, the number of Catholics `those who wer• befere bound to take the oath of allegistice, that would limier any eircomstanets Mel their way into the onmely, the two Houses of Lewes and Comnvens, theneth" Haug of Commons would not be such as to threaten the of supremacy should thereafter he taken. Here, therefiire, smallest degree of danger to the Constitution from the fug was an express provision in the Bill of kitties for the exelm mentalities of their political power. The "Mentor their 'ion of Cathoecs equally from both Howie* of Parliament ; power inehe House of Peers was already known. Whatever and he would ask, therefore, whether they could ou any ,night he the effect of the lapse ef time, whatever the justice ground exempt the Peers (tom that obligatioie soil still of the original Art of exclusion, if be collet eutertain soy leave it binding on the Common:. The principle of that doubt of the safety of the Constitution in Church and State, provision is the Bill of Rights being to aisle:Wow the oath being there taut to deride oa the jastire of the original case, of supremacy linked of the oath of allegiance, it was foe bait to uphold the Constitution, he should have no hesitation the House or C9lllllllllOBll to consider whether they could eon- in oppoeing thenaution fur its repeal. seat is a measure to exempt the Peers from whet was so sub- Mr. CANNING said, that if he bad uttered any thing on titillated, and to renters themselves still bound by it. The the former debate iu his reply to the speech of his Right preamble of this Bill set footle as one of the greyed, of its Hon. Friend, the Secretary for the Home Department—if enactment- 4 Whereas, the said oath Bud eeclaration so he could have let slip may expression which carried to his first imposed upon the Peers by the said Act of mind the impression that he bad met the question unfairly, the 301 b of King Chula' fl. wets imposed fur causes, lie must have greatly mistaken him; for it was impossible, and under circumstances which no longer esist."— in his conception, for the question either in its wider range, He lead, the other night, intended to inert the •rgurneut 'that or in that more particular view in which he had brought this was founded oil the supposition that Titus Oates's plot was question itself under consideration, to be more fairly met. a fabrication, and that the falsehood of that plot having now If be had said that is his argument he bad not met the jus been discovered, the disabilities which it was the object of tier anal expediency of the case, he did assure him that he this Bull to repeal, having been founded on the supposition intended it only of the justice anal expediency of this parti ed' its truth, ought no Wager to he centiourie by attempting euler caae, and meant that he had not met that part of his to show that they were not enacted on that ground shine, (Mr. C 'a) argument which was founded on the particular - but that there were other itOUCUrneg causes, arising out of case of those whose claims be was now advocating. In the - circumstances previously existing, which led to the belief latter part of the speech which he made on the former evem 'of that plot, and which la themselves would here twee sulli• Jag, he bed accurately developed those views of policy on cheat to warrant the eXeltlii. ,ll of the Catholics from kW which befell himselfjustified iu bringineforward this measure. • Houses of Parliament. Tlie 'raiment, they fare, as to the To go su further back than the period in which the Haute jnstiee of the exclusion, mimed itself to this consideration, of Commons, fur the first time, had fi It itself justified in ace whether those causes were a sullieimit ground for such a ceding to the question in favour of the Catholics, he meant measure. The Right Honourable Member for Dukes, in in the year 1812, when be himself had the honour to bring introdneiag his Bath of fast Session, admitted mat distinctly forward • motion in which the whole question was brought the existence Oa plot for the overthrow of the l'rctestant join view, where the terms were made as wide as possible, eetablistimest, sad that the Catholics were concerned in it, and the debate was as full as had ever been 'mown, what was and he allowed that to have been a satecient reasos for the fate of that measure in the Lords? it was thrown out as the exclusive at the time of its emicieneut. But not according with the views of that House. In the fllC it was argued, that no arch plot now existed, nor were reeding year, 1813, in redemption of the pledge given is the any of those circumstances which led to it is the former precedieg Session, a 13el was brought in, which passed the Instance to be found in our times, and therefore the metric- second reading, and was dropped in the Committee on the Bonn which were founded en them eloreld no longer be eon- teener of the clause for the admission of Catholics Into Par. tinned. He was afraid, that if it was to be maid that because filament. He - was himself a party to that decision—he meant the causes which led to any coartments hail ceased to exist, of the throwing up, of be lead Mote repented. Ile therefore the enactments themselves ought also to cease, we was 'elided now that it was a decision sot of spirit, bat should be reduced to the necessity of parting with the most of temper, sue be look to himself lits full share of blame valuable securities of the Coastilution. Our Constitution was for the part he took therein. They were then offered all never formed a priori; it was never planned by any number of kinds of initial concessions, if they would give up that persons, met together in any manner ssa piospeetiveprovistisa chew; but, as it had since luruid out, they unwisely for future contingencies; but it was on pest experience of the and improvidently, as, fur his own part, he was ready to danger aud inconvenienecarisingout of certain eireunistaures, confess, refused; and an interval of niue yeses afterwards 1 and on the conviction of the necessity of guarding against elapsed, iii which little progress was made in the cause. In their recurrence, all the twenrities by which it was protected the last Session • measure was introduced by his Right Hon. were founded. He would ask, whether it was neceortry fair Friend, now Attorney-General of Ireland, which paused the us now to legatee into the causes which led to the Referees- House; • measure temperate and wise in Bs provisions, Bon—to maim into the causes why Henry VIII. after which blended concession with Ir . ..eerily ; but what was the having at use period If/Piril an epietleto the Pope, *deems consequence? when it reached the ROM! of Lords It was Mar/Mesa Lutherans, at a subsequent to nod quarrelled 'rejected. They were then reduced to reflect whether with the Pope, and separated from the Church of Rork ? the course they had hitherto taken was the best for and were we to say, that because the causes were unsound securing ultimate success. The opponents of the men. we should therefore alter what grew out of them? If that sure, in now urging him to bring forward the general principle were tube tie flinty], how should we stand upon the , were duly Labouring in their vocation, by eoun excluoimi of Roane Catholics from thesucceesion to the throne? selling perseverance in that course which experience told them Did the same circumstances now axial which prevailed at had always failed. In looking round, therefore, fur • men. the period when that easement was determined on? Was sure must likely to effect his ultimate purpose, leek it founded a priori on what might happen, and not upou ing at the pre:l...dingo of the last ten years, he bad experience of past difficulties ? What was the language of every reason to think that partial legislation was the best the Resolution on that bead, on which the clause in the for the purpose of securing the ulterior object. The Bill of Rights was founded ? " Whereas it bath been found concession of all the partial claims on • former ntell by experience to be incomistent with this Pruiestaut king. sion—the arguments of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Peel) ' 'dam to be governed by • Popish Prime." Pant was the at present—the reception which the general measure bad language of the preamble to the Act by which the Catholic constantly met with in another place; all confirmed him to Peers were exclsieled ? " Wheresa, &ogees base arisen from that opinion. Emir, irk* too supported the conviction; Catholics sitting in either House of Parliament."— for, if he deceived not himself, one portion of the measure The principle of the two enactments wig then the bed already succeeded • and where did that originate? In the same ; and the el-gement, or the erasing of the causes House of Lords.—(eberre)—The exclusion of Catholics 1 which gave rise to them, won !d hold good serially I from the army and navy, which by the f r iends of evasucipo. its the one ease as in the other. We had no longer a King i lion was ewer 'leveed as one of the greatest of their grieve taking the sacrament in the Protestant church one day, nod mere, sold lay its opposers was streemally defended as ' in the Catholic church the next ; axe had no longer a Ca- the citadel of the Constitution, wee removed —(Cheers.)-- (belie heir to the throne ; and would it therefore be con- He remembered the point most Moored by Mr. Fox, and on • tended that the clause by which a Catholic was excluded which he made the strungeet imiression, was the situation from the succession to the throne, should be repealed? It of the Catholic subaltern excluded from promotion. Was was therefore under these circumstances that, postponing the i the removal of that exclusion no moor that partial legisla consideration of the general question, and seeing no valid Ilion in the House of Lords. inure particularly where that arguments urged to favour of this partial measure, he felt measure originated, was more to their taste than • general himself bound to resist it. lie thought also that the car- measure, and therefore more likely to succeed? Wks, eying of thus question would prejndice the carrying cf therefore, fur reasons in which he had no part, hut which had the question of securities. Ile thunzla there would be more been deemed sufficient, it was determined to postpone the difficulty in exactiog !reconfirm if this measure should he general gestation, he 'bought that a fair opportunity for now carried, than if this measure were reserved fur the I trying Bats partial meaner, in older to eacertaiu the I general measure. He deem-sit hir hostility even In the I SperlCl of opposition which the general priociple was general question to he mill unabated, and that whenever the likely to meet to the Ileum of lords. It was difficult to time came for its discussion lie should still contend agaiiist speak of things that passed in another place ; but, if looking ' it ; and he trusted to be acquitted of nny disposition to do i fur the measure on which he should anticipate the least objece so from a mere spirit of opposition, and to obtain credit for lion there, he should say it was ibis. The greeted, of op. be* actuated solely by a zealous anxiety ill uphold the I position to the general men ore in that place, had mostly Constitutios as it now existed. As he was a firm fiend to I alloys out of the variety of eiresteastakes which it embraced; the prerogative of the monarchy, so was he also to the I aume individual Peers objecting to one part, and others to privileges of the aristocracy, end not less zealous to uphold another, hut each admitting the possibility of agreeing to the just rights of the ilemocrary. He implored the House any thing bait the precise point te which their objectiou was them to consider whether it would be either wise, or I addresses. Among all, however, who objected to the measme, politic, or just, to exempt the Catholic Peers from ohligatioes there wan teem wheelie not ridicule the idea of eremitic; and which were still to coutinue in (ni ce against the rest of his declare that if dispeeed to make concession it would be with- Majesty's Roman Catholic subjects. At the earliest pond. i out any provision of that nature. The part or the measure ble periled of next Session, it wee the intention of his Right . which he had mewed was that which, in his opinion, Honourable Friend, the Member for the University of Dub-' ought to succeed, end which was the only one that could lin (Mr. Plunkett), to bring the whole question bet rat with more propriety miginate in that House than in them fur coasideratioa, on the broad and general principle: , the other, sluice it more immediately concerned the other. If, however, this wastee were in the mean time agreed to,' Besides which, It was the point thgl iraSi of all affected if they once 'Omitted that there was no cause for contie i the general question. The Catholic Peers had sat in Doing the exclusion of Catholic Peers from the House of ; Parliament fur a century after they were excluded from Lords, it would be difficult to maintain that any cause re. , the Honer of andfCommct ta Comm o ns. jblioeod, andirexc he cause lusilonh which that enhiect meined to exclude Catholics any hunger from that Honor. Ail I forted by d thatcould be lost by postponing the present measure was led to it no longer exited. Nu objection could be urged the delay of a few months, by whirl] he conceived that Rome , to it on the ground of its leading to the general meammat advantage would be gained to the advocates of the general i there was emitting in it which would force them int* eh* measure. He implored the House not to forsake der own ' general question; there was Roth* to prevent that from ~+l~ tesillg just Where It bleeds. They coed Mead the ;MAI( if the present aresiture as an let of justice-is. reaffiestims Of tight , 4ollo7 infriltall; 'and call omits Vise who i wouldaib it I. di ddlthelent for the Nettie filliasseer to nib M blest title the exelumou irdirs the ) m- Mona task plmieesit whit unjust .pretences it Wits 'Gadded—by what falsehood and fabrication it was eibettet His Rigliit Honourable Friend talked or asorisalies widish this measure would create. Rut see there nothing of ann. roily in this, (list thiessie a Catholic Nahleasan might by meritorious service arise at the distinction of being ;Oared at the bend of* victorious army ; that he might, by she • re peal of the Act of Charles, go into the prowie• or the Kisg, that be might advise him, ansl tarn the lidlueuce whirl, his high office gave him to she most pereiciurs uses, wits e the Peer himself was deprived of his right to sit silt vote in that , House to which he belonged, and to exercise the power which was given to his order fur the purpose of Isumblitte the pride and coutrulling the ambition of too powerful subjects. That was an anomaly already existing. and whirls bad hero created by • partial me aaaaa originating-in the House of Lords. His Right Hum Friend had sod that it by noisier:us followed from the badness of • cause that the enactment to which it gave rise might out loved, or that upon the ceasisß of the cause the euactmem itself should cease; and in support of his position lied argued from the Re formatiou and the Revolution. it war, nu doubt, time that the causes which first gave rise to them had erainl to exist; but other tames bad sobie fluently swung up to make both the one and the other equally nevem, y, mut their 'dimmers equally desirable new as at die Rest. And he (Mr. C.) bad • right se eats on his Right Hon. Friend to show the combination of some danger to the Cunstitution from the admiesioa of - Catholics to power; dsager, not precisely of the same nature, nor proceeding from the same canoes as that on which their exclusion was' fumbled ; but still danger existing of same kind or other to justify its condemner: He alhl not call on hint to skew a Cmholie sureession to the throne; he did not want him to she. a King takiag the Saerameet of one Church one day end of the other the next; he did not ask lsim poise to a Catholic Pretender to the Crown, residing in • fo reign country, intriguing with Catholics in this, and stirring up foreign Powers to Mil him in a descent open our shores; he did sot seek to bend to these dangers, or say ones( these; bet he did ask, and surely that was sot tel much, that be would thew some little danger—(Lsughter)—of some kind or other, from some little corner of history-4u adduce same little scantling of dauger—(Laughter)—and if he conid skew any thing of the kind, he (Mr. Csaning). would instantly withdraw this measure.—(Lood eheets.)— With respect to the question of securities, he rendered the same opinions he had formerly held ; and ii was not fair to say that because he had not annexed securities to this mea sure, he had given them up, any more than it would be to say, that the Lords had given them up because they had not annexed them to the Army sod Navy Bill. Neither was he bound to answer the question why the same securi ties were ant given here as in other eirmitrier of Europe. He had, however, a right to ask if nothing had happeued is Europe worthy of our imitation concreted with this sub. ject ? At the Congress of Vienna a clause was agreed to, declaring, that the 'Addeo@ °pinkies of any German should in no way interfere with the exercise of his political rights. (Cheers.) —He had been told that his was • little Rill, which dealt with the subject with almost irreverent dimensions But two lines of au Act of Congress had annihilated at once all exclusions on aecuust of religion, in a country where re ligious quarrels had been prosecuted with more raucour than is any part of the world. Two years afterwards the Crown of England (for the Ciowa of Hanover was united with that of England) had given its sanction to a measure whirls relieved from religious restrictions a territory of 50,000,000 of inhabi tants. Six years before he was assured of the fact, that Do strongly was religious intolerance kept up in Austtia, that a menial huldiag a situation is the skittles of the Emperor was discharged beeanee Ise was found out to be a Protestant, and now, he was lammed that the President of the Legislature of Hanover was a Catholic.—(Cheers.) —While these provements were taking place iu Europe, should this country still pe • •ri the system of odious exclusions; Amnia Mir country. whose soil could not be trod ea by %be slave, for the moment he touched her shores he was free. should she still enthral with religious bandage the eon. seiences of her citizens? Should there never be as rad of dwelling upon negations; of swearing to the belief, rot of what they • believed, but what they dishelieved of looking upon ;intrados as privilege, asd feeling proud of distinctions which made us worse than the rest of mankind ? The Right Honourable Gentleman then re fernier to the three periods of oar history, from the Re formation to the reign of Charles 1., from thence to the Re volution, and from the last-mentioned epoch to the Gist modification of the laws against the Catholics in she late reign, pointed out the distinct species of danger that might have been apprehended at each specific period, sad said it ramified yet to be seen whether there was in these days any danger similar or hllitilfollll to those which called fur the con dustman affixes restrictive lows, or for securities on the same priuriple as those which webs formerly eteeessary. He said ear ascestors were not quoted but misquoted, when it was said that the Act of Charles 11. was pass. ed in times like these; and yet those did say so, who said that Act might to be continued in these limes.—(Cheers.) — They misquoted the letter of the Prince of Otatige, who applied it to the state our laws ens this subject of exclusions. 1r his Hoe. and Leveed Friend (Mr. Wetherell; would lend bias the manuscript from which he had read that letter, be would not reed Isis manuscript notes—(A laugh)—but he would ahrw him that he had omitted a plhterial word in the reading which he had forgotten to omit in the copying.— (Loud laughter.)—The Right Hon. Gentleman, then read from the letter the passage relating to "wieder, fsum public employments, ecclesiastical, civil, or teLlitary." which last word the Lemont Gentleman had omitted. If hie Honourable and Learned Friend could consent to live un der a state of law in which the *hole of the military offices might be filled with Catholics, as ours might at present since the passing of the Army sod Navy Act, he should be glad to know on what principle be could object to a measure, which would only restore to half • dovu Catholics to those seats in the House of Peers, of which their ancestors had been deprived 011 pretences now known to be false, mid nit grounds that •ere admitted nolanger to ens!. He did not think that much importarsee eauld be attached to the argument which had been brought forward founded on the Revolution. It world be a most unjust reflection OR King Witham and his atavisms, to accuse them of intolerance for not repealing three atatuter, width tbey founds part of that Costatitulion whisk they had swore to satinet's. But, good God: was there no difference bet wren the hour of eon. test and that more happy hoer whew the conflict bad ceased—betweea the moment when OUT lechers are agi tated and all oar temente at bastard, and the enlist when our passions had subsided, and reason resented her seat. The time was now tour by when the Protestaat sad Catholic struggled oats with the other who should wed the State, and make her exclusively bin owa; the hour of combat was past. The Cittholies now no longer' seed with the Protestants fur power or pre-earieenee. They now held the language of amity and frienstaltip. a Yoe..have heel the conquerors, we now yield you willing submission. Yuu are the conquerori, sod we call on you for protection— Vinod, et vinous tendere phases Ansonii videre: tea eat Lavinia conjux. Ulterius ne tende odds. We no longer pretend to he your rivals, we are willing to continue under your rein".-all we require is that you will deal out to us an equal sesame of pistice.'•—(Cheers.)— Bat his Right Hon. Frieud (Me. Peel), and these who agreed wish him, argued this question in the spirit of con quest, and as if their only effort should be, lisviett subdued the Catholics, bow they should keep them down. The fear of danger was only imaginary. The B • h Constitution and the Protestant religion were inseparably attired; they were settled on a basis so staple and secureohat eireti.lf the disposition ex isted, all the powers or Cedlooliciww could not rent them aside!.—(Hear, bear.)—And surely they might new allow these illustrious personages, after a century of peace, and loyalty, .and quiet, to he restored to their proper funk sod dignity, sad enjoy Iridium jealensy, as they might without danger, all the privileges Which the Vonstiletioa eiraferved epee theme who hail slung to it more Scmle. j mid which they could afford to ilispeosmitothom who Mil ,mt,eorne so closely within its misbniee.:—(llear, here) all these grounds be consldert4 theettetelitlitliipillt* klitd, so d celled for. It was called ter Irt AsetkebViiied bud. Is ti ile.l by the yoke of resteoa..4Lobil ebeete)—Arno barrow these lOW he ittEbt 11••.‘etettebtobb Yee itopmeteropeve •f krantiug thin conewsle• lo • imago,' tko most •netreromn. Ible. For erboittiog, for the Gabe of aryormtht, th.r the irrltiriik were dwarbtriti, 'the ehettipl• way be co..rettr:i ottbovit the vonibibty to( Berger.—(Heir, ite4r4— . . . . 'We must cosseler that it is -wet ths *Awe sifewarilltrae ho found its hope of prosperity on extraordimary virtues, bet eel the ordinary gOod qualities which arc to be found in Ihe dm tarter of man. Rut it tit undoubtedly an udilitio.rd ele ment is Neese tif this sitothre, that 'yowl,. railed er.de to relitUre their deputies ...persons of the most illtistrireitema lions, upon whose strrution to the Stale the oust 'dis tant doubt . bat never been east. Upoiirpaliites like these toe miry frond their reliance. They have loon long excluded TIOI2I . ftleir uatursl stations, sofFer•n t• het merely on their own aceonet, but viihnet woe slieering hope of aidenating the infant barest of thew aqua • with that noble sprit of ambitiosi which is (be gm& and - Wiest of Englishmen. Put you must not 'sue( that iota virtue will long survive these frequent disappoiot:se - ore. You 00000 suppose, that while the youthful boodo,ris.pii--.. spired with one ray of hose. that generative will fel 11. X. ..1 - ration without del:eller:l%m rin feeling. I call ep in two io restore an individual right so clear and manifest, than ho jury in the land could hesitate to coolers. I eel wpm lino ie make the best showmen' you are able for as age of so ;Plotter- Yule are celled epee to confirm hy pier role the sacred peiorielea of civil liberty. My 'Weld lion. Fiend has said, that if this Bull were passed tra.morrow, ell the advantage the Peers would derive would be in at Ja tbe. Hamm of lords a soue•r•ble four mouths before the police of eligibility wag given to their Catholic brethren. 11 say, if it were only a miserable four 'Moot's, It would be ealauble, fdr you resider homage to justice, and preform an eel of policy and humanity. At pewee you setintaio a ilat, m of. the must eironeous policy, without any just ifirition. Cyr when these exclusive statutes were neressarc, they wile harsk—now that the necessity has ceased, they are irkecros. llyrefeeiwg this motion you will give a saurtion to limos, eery principles of arbitrary power which, whet) you d:rcp rlifiod them, you affected to proscribe—(Loud and cootoined cheering.) The gallery was then cleared for a division. Tire numbers were— For the second reading Against it ..... Majority for the second reading The sonutsocemeat of the majoisty eras belled with tool therm The other Orders of the Day were thew disposed of. slid t►e House adjuarued at HALF-PAS 1' TWELVE O'CLOCK. FOREIGN IN r 8 LLIGENC'E. LISBON NIA IL. e•MIMMI• In the sitting of the Cortes of the 22. of A mil. M. Freire read the following notice, which Wib 0, laid on the table for a second reading " It is sow eight years since the Portuguese army coot ri- Wed, for the last time, in the ',oviform of Toulouse, to coo solidwie the general peace of Europe, which suffered only a temporary interruption in the following year; nearly nine years have passed sinee the same gained, tau the tlid of June, 1813, in the plains of Vittoria, in a few boars, a glorious and drciiiive battle, io which the enemy lust all their artillery, military chest, train, field equipage, and almost all their baggage and valuable effects, winch ant only the army but inuomerable families brought with them from the interior and from the opposite extremities of the vast territory of Spain to the Western Pyr and, who would believe o r that of all these spoils, some sold, others valued by esti-, mates whirls were never made known to the nation, nothing' has yet been received? But unhappily asithiag is more sera fain; the same carelessness which prevailed in the opilia lions of the ancient Government, seems to have been trans. mined to the prereot Government, which, I thiak,obair done little mare to recover these sums fur Portugal. It re sot so much out of interest, as for the remembrance of glori. was actions, and recompense of heroic deed., that the army desires and merits to r-ceive the share which belongs to is of t►e prizes which are liquidated, espretally fruni the battle of Vittoria, respecting which there seems uerce to hare been any rpeerittosi." Mr. Strife concluded with proposing a series of qaestioWS to elucidate the subject, and carry the purpose of hi■ itr.erh into effect, by a just disteibetio■ of the propartpistaosz. thu persons entitled to receive it. Of the 80,0001. sterling be t .nging to the army, for the prizes made in the battle of Vit.: sena, what mesas have been taken to recover this 110111 When was it adjudged to be Portuguese property? Is inte rest received for the delay. and since what time ? has net this sum bees trasafetred to Porlogal, ad-what steps bait the Government taken, or can it take, to obtain it ? thee the lists of claimants to the prize money (of timing), with the proportion is which it should be divided. are ready it'd, if not, that this operation may be proceeded is •iih suer celerity, that on the receipt of the money nuthiarmay remain bat to make the division by classes, nod then wily great facility distribute the share due to each milts idual Of the reepecslwe chasers." THE BRITISH PRESS. LONDON. SATURDAY. MAr 11. 1822. ► 4.1.1 The distressed state of Ireland was made the sinhject of some debate yesterday evening in the House of Lsc.ls, when the Earl of DAII.IILET grieved an Address to the Crown, /or • copy of the Correspontiesatm which bad taken place tied sees the Government of Ireland aid the Secretary of St ste far the Home Department. The Noble Earl spoke w irmtv of the apparent oeglect of the Governurent in not exerciring iLe means in its power to alleviate the famine that rages in &lir south of Ireland, and to prevent the diesilful evil of pesti lence which must he expected to follow the miseries' that, are sow beginning to be seferod. Tim Earl of Ltvithroor. re. pealed what fell from him an a former evening, and sleclaffal .that the Governmea• could out interfere with the markets of the couutry; but he added, that measures bad been already adopted by the Gorernmeat to reseeme the present dieisre , , and to prevent its return until the next harvest. The gaily measure which has hitherto, at least to the patiltetar. l ee, adopted by the Government, is that of 34/111CIttj the ..I is of a -million to the projecion of public works; hiq if (halm tie limit of the efforts used by his Majesty's Ministers for t lir 'T. lief of perhaps a million of mac/ring peassuts tort Lev. it root. attributes far too muebt o its effiCarti. T!, , " ale , .•i•e. Wilt in front of our Paper 'hews the deep interest waii h iv felt in this city for the sufferlogs of the Irish peasants. Tli,• inh.criptiou for their use is edvaneing rapidly, and money has bees already transmitted to the distressed /ilatritit-1 to mitigate the estreme severity of lbe mifferitigs. 'flier* is .11,, want of food in Ireland of the beat quality, titere is enough of wheat mod other grain for the consumption of the country ; but bread as, unhappily, • luxury to which the wretched peasant of Ireland seldom aspires; his food coourir alownt (actuated, of potatoes', and it is in this article al.olke Ilrit the (adore has been complete. It would he well for 'avian/1 if this species of vegetable diet were not au 'Jarvis's:4d ti...,, and if the peasants could ogee be taught to look upon aw lmai food asd wheaten bread as essential to their oaudeurc, they would not so easily pule, then/melees to be ground to Ilia earth, as they are as present, by ilieri . r isoodaderateior rapacious landlords. This country anayco•isnmeAtie rho. .. hatter a l tio-kfaleds that revel's liivelmr4hoss die cif . . ,II •,ti • _5 , . , j..“ . ....14/ 4 1 F• . • • r ti • 1 ! • • vl t v • v . $ II ii t. • r @- it 'Y 11 it vri I J Or ;I. jl