The Sun. — London, England, 1813-01-27 00:00:00

MAILS. AIRLVEI)—.I 3 Waterford. Lisbon, I Got tenburgb, i WetOrford. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWM.YE &CLOCK. Consols 59fi I Red. Ann IE SUN. stn,nm wt:l3 111cCRE EAIITM hUI/EAT ? L 0 N IArEntiiAMAY, JANUARY 1813: A vessel ha, arrived: at Falmouth, •from Co runna, which brings a rePort,that the French troop% were rabidly tetreating4Owards France, — Our Port Letters sttit,„ thAt atis vessel brought &glitches of importance .;-but We ao not learn that Government have received any intelligence this morning from Corttnna, The debate at the East India House, on the subject 'Of the Renewal of the Charter, terminated yesterday, It will be seen that the Company have determined to place themselves in direct opriosi tirm to Goy•rntitent upon this important question. They twist therefore abide the consequence. The proof of the expediency 'of reneiving their ex clusive monopoly undoubtedly lies upon then', but hitherto they . have '.not condescended to afford any evidence to establish that expe tLency. All the sound and enlightened princi ples of commerce are against than. it was fur them .to slim . , that the trade to India fur nished an exception to the general' role, This, however, they have not done, and for the hest reason,--because they could not. 111uch .*bills jr has certainly been displayed by those Gentlemen who advocated the continuance of the present system of carrying . on the trade to India ; but they have cautiously abstained front stating any facts whereon to found such a proposition.— They have dealt largely in 'assertions, but base studiously avoided entering into details, nor have they given any calculations fur the purpose of 'hewing how in any probability it can happen, that the, merchants of titose ports to whom it is proposed to open the trade, shonld so egregiously mistake .their interests, as to court their own ruin. 'Of the alleged danger to the empire of the Company in India by opening the trade, no proof whatever is offered, hut the Company seem deter mined to put all to hazard, rather than give up a part of the trade to India, the whole of which, they say, has been some years a losing concern. They do not, upon their own shewing, derive any hone trom the trade, but they will not consent that whirs should try to render' it productive. We lament that the East India Company should have taken up the question in this point of view, but they must now be prepared for the copse quences. The Ministers have a great public duty to perform, and we are satisfied that the opposition of the Company, however determined, will not id duce theta to shrink from the tusk they have un dert►►ken ; neither Will it , frighten the Merchants of the out-ports, or the Manufacturers ut other towns, front the purpose they have in view. it the public could he surprised at any thing that appears in the leading Paper of Opposition, intended to throw odium upon llovernment, it might wonder at the efforts of that Paper to goad MinisteLs into a declaration of the principles and ohject3 of the British Cabinet at this moment, because France has suffered so severely under the Russian victories. It is well known to the world at large, that the Oovernment of this country has, on several occasions, ghen it full exposition of its pacific views, and its desire to repect the independence/ of other zia- Vous, while it supported the homonr and inte rest of its own. Did not the BritiSh Govern. meat recently make a declaration of its views and principles, in answer to the false and malignant accusations of America; a declaration which not only manifested the justness and forbearance of this country, under all the base partiality of Arne- XiCti towards France, and-its abject submission to the, Corsican usurper, but which also embraced the general policy of Great Britain, and vindi cated that policy, upon the clearest principles of justice and liberality towards all other States ? What necessity, then, can there lie for Ministers to issue another declaration, merely because a vile and infamous usurper is suffering under that mottificiaion and disgrace to which his own 'arrogant ambition has reduced him ? But is it not welt known, that the British cabinet, though it has not committed the. national chance ter, merely because its ranporous enemy has fallen Into disgrace, by issuing a formal Manifesto on the occusion,---is it not, we soy, well known that the British Cabinet has actually taken advantage of his situation, and is endeavouring to open a pacific uegociation with Powers that have long groaned under his tyranny ? And can it briloubted that Ministers have .fully developed their sent'? merits on this Degoe4ition, and urged every plea of conciliation, :policy and ,justice, in order to roars these powers into a resolute effort to throw . off the yoke of Corsican :oppression.; Ministers, then, are adopting the ~ very measiire recom mended by the Opposition Print, though not in the unnecessary and disgraceful wanner Which that Paper has pointed ont, viz. by issuing a na- Akonal„exposition of their views, because. a vile 4 ' Usurper as at present suffering under evils Which be brought upon himself. But the Paper in ques tion boldly Asserts, that the Emperor AI,EXAN , DER . IS gone to Konigsberg, unaccompanied either 1 by, the English or S wedisli Minister re:SitiCilt at his Court, " expressly that he might not be embar rassed by their preottice in any negociation which he may chuse to enter into with Austria, and pro bably with France separately !"---That the Em,, , , Peror ALEXANDER May have gone unaccompa , pied by the British and Swedish ,Minister, may be true ; but that he has done so for the purpose assigned by the Opposition Paper; we beg leave to doubt, and to considerAs a sugges tion of its own. ALExANnnat, in any negotiation into which he might wish to enter with Austria, . would find ' it his best policy to abew that be, was supported by this country and Sweden, and as to it separate negociatlon with, France, he knows too much of the perfidy of the-infamous Corsican to trust himitlf singly to the artifice 'of such a character. Upon the whole, then, the clamours of the Paper in question : are' to be' considered as the mere ,effii4lon of spleen and absurdity, since Great Britain iF. pursuing the very policy recommended by that Paper, though in a manuer.more suitable to the national .dignity, and more likely, to effect the purpose. in view, than by 4 needless declaration of principles and objects, which she has often promulgated, and whic,,li are the well•known feat k Ores of her character and conduct. NAVAL NEW& Pl,Y,zotrrit, 25.—Arrived yesterday the Unicorn frigate, Captain SALT, from a cruise off the coast of France, and this day went up the harbour, to repair the damage she sustained a few days since, by striking on : a rock ; on 'the enemy's coast when chasing a vessel. Arrived the Stirling Castle man of war from the Channel fleet; the Pink of and from Jersey, K Iturt, m l aster ; the „Edward, MADDICK, from Portsmouth; and the Dorchester, Hoopa, front London. Sailed thePor frigate for Portsmouth ; the Bit. tern loop of war for Liverpool ; and the Pyramus on a cruise. F,ti►.>rount, JAN.. 241.—Arrived his Majesty's brig Growler. from off Basque Ro i nis, with a French chasse-marce and brig, her prizes ; the former nothing but wood, the latter in Also a chasSe-inarue, prize to the Arrow schooner ► laden with wine and brandy, ,and a chasse-maree, prize to the Strenuous brit; and a Jersey privateer. Also arrived the Bittern sloop of %var from a cruize ; Speculation, DYER, fru►ri Colima (with dispatches). Capt. DYlelt states, that frnu► every information at Corunna, the French were rapidly' lOaving Jpain. Sailed the P'rincess Elizabeilt pnckct , TOIllt$8.• nAt.n, for Lisbon; ontylinchinbruke packet, JAMES; for the Mediterranean. The Arroyo schooner, oil , isle Dieux, has had an action with a French brig of war, of 22 guns and 150 men, succeeded in beating her off, unit was likely to have taken beribut owing to light winds and fog. The Arrow had one man killed, and her sails and riggiug much cut. There being pro mail of war or packet at Co mma when the 6'pepulatdr lugger s iitccl, dis patches were put on boarti , ,her just as she was ,about to get underwegh ; they are said to be of importance. YARMOUTH, JAN. Majesty's ship Cretan, has sent in the following small vessels. which she captured on the thigger Bank, viz i . : Araereoas, Vratv Cornelis r, Herring and Cod Fish, Johanna Margaretha and the Hermania. Yesterday the Princess of WALES went from Blackheath to Kensington Palace, where she par took of some refreshment. Her Royal Highness went from thence to visit, the Duchess of BRUNS- W/CK, and in the even;ng returned to Blackheath. Yesterday the Bart of Livaaroot, went Out in his carriage for the first time since his indisposi4. tion, called at Cv,rlton House, and had an inter view with the Palma: REGENT. Yesterday the Duke of YOPIrc held a Military Levee at his office, in the Horse Guards, and gave audiences to a number of Military Officers 1 among them were General rum), k A pon his bein g o p. poioted Governor of thavesend and Tilbury Fort. The QUEEN is indisposed . with a could. Two Officeis and 70 awn of the 3d Regiment (the Buffs) have passed through Newbury, on thei r w a y t o rortstnonth, there to embark for Por. tugal, to join the Ist battalion. EAST INDIA HOUSE, %N. 26. The. General Court met at eleven o'clock, when the ►uinutes of the last Court were read, tuid Sir If. hcoLis informed them, that they were assembled .to - take into. furthc.r consideration the momentous subject in which tlier were all interested. - Mr. KENNARD SMITH observed chiefly on that argument of Mr. flume, which wencto 'charge the Company with interposing delays in thevoyages of the private trad er . These delays, he asserted, were not the fault of the well but of th e private trader : he was Well acquainted with the fact, and kneW• that the company's ships Were frequently ready to month before the private mer chant. prepared his goods. lle insisted, that .the supply of Isis Majesty's navy in the East which had hitherto been effected without expense to Government, would now be impracticable ; and on the pd.)int of remuneration, he observed, that no possible means could be devised to fur nish a suilicieet compensation to the Company, unless they country were burdened with fresh taxes for that purpose. Mr. TitowEits, in an animated speech, insisted on the political dangers likely ,to ensue, if ,the mighty interests Of the Company should be swept away for the sake of an experiment. That a weak Ministry should! grasp at. such a prize as the acqinsitions of the Comptiy,was credible enough ; but. it was incredible th a t th e w i s d om of Parlia ment'would Consent,' to such measure, fraught as it would be With danger to the Constitution. Mr. BosAN:eurr, lifter =knit; sinne 'observa 7 tions on the exteist of the 'lndian empire,' and Oh the conquests of the Company, which be said were matte without a 'shilling expellee to the country, proceeded to state, that the t r ad e was as large in the hands of the • Company as it would be in the hands of private traders : he dilated on the dan ger ehich would 'accrue fo. the Company, if the ' India trade Was lOst:,: the ;los's of the China trade twist follow ; a loss which mould -not merely affect Great . Britain a lbut, alreivilized Europe. Ile • combated the position maintained in a certain publleation, that one of the Princes should go vern India : • in his opinion no British Prince, should be alive to interests so, - far distant trout his native country. 11e was satisfied that the country was in a delusion as to the advantsges which Were expected "from 'an extension of the trade, and the documents of the Company would prove it. lie concluded a speech Of same length, observing, that the efforts and the probable • suit of them, used by:his Majesty's Ministers, brought to his mind a ludicrous string of verses, which he thought very applicable to the present case. They were these— llruupty Hunlpty st uutd m u t: p p t ty y cat on e a n g a E u e n an - All the Kimr's horses, and all ch., reen, (.4 iauij/s). a' )old ;Lee lanupty 11117)4 onhis legs again. Mr. GRANT conceived, that the present ques tion involved in it danger of two kinds: political and commercial. The lion. Gentleinan who had argued on the other side, had thought that there was nu political danger to be apprehended ; but it had been daily proved, by the able and elf,..quent Proprietors who had already spoken, that the political danger was the pre-eminently con spicuous feature of the case: This, however, luot been so fully entered into, that he should. confine himself to a commercial investigatiOn. The non. Hub, Gentleman had produced a mass of (lotio n-lents, which made it necessary to go into the question at length. The ,Company rested their . • arguments on two posmons,---that there can be no greater increase of the exports, nor any in crease in the sale of the imported goods. The first position was suppo r t e d y the experience of ages : the nature, habits, and prejudice s of the Indian people rendered it impossible to introduce among theta any of the products of foreign countries, and from the tune - of the }Winans there had been no instance of theAntroduction of such articles among them. In spite r4f this array • of facts and experience, the petitioners of the dif ferent manufacturing towns of Great Britain wish to try the experiment of exporting their'goods.---- '.l . he cutlers of Iluddlestone, anti the woollen ma nufacturers of Wiltshire and YOrkshire, talk of the boundless advantages to be expected from a free trade with the immense regions of. Hindus tan ; and the petitioners of Sheffield were perfectly enthusiastic at the view of the peculiarly favour-. able prospects which 'an :open trade 'would pre sent .to them.. lie must say, thai the speach of the Honourable Gentleman had strongly a ten dency to fortify these delusions. The Honour able Gentleman had treated the subject, as if there had been an actual progressive rise of ex ports since the act of 1793 ; the . records of tli c Company, whiCh'ivere ; the most authentic,doeu meats, disproved tin's argument ; and it should be observed, that till ' - 1802, the imp or t at i ons were from Beni only ;. afterwards from . all In 1798, the private trade, together with that of the Captains and Commanders, amoented to 13 lacks : but this was owing in a groat measure to the Warehousing Act, by which persons were exempted from many, high duties • yet it was pretty well known that the trade which the Commanders and Othcers carried on was frequently alosing one,, notwithstanding the many privilege's which they enjoyed.. Another reason why the trade had in creaSed since 1798, was the great increase tif' Eu ropean population in India ; whereas, before that time, there were comparatively but few Eu ropeans settled in = the East; The experience of the last 20 years taught him that no new articles were sent out, or were deManded in India. There were European merchants, end native merchants, residing there, well acquainted with the wants anti habits of the natives, and who, if any articles of consumption were required, would be th.: first to demand them.' The Bout Gentleman hatr quoted, as an opinion of Mr. Colebrooke, an assertion, that trade with India. might be increased to an indefinite extent. Mr. Colebrooke, in a subse quent publication, bad disclaimed the WOrk from which that remark was taken, except as far as re lated to subjects of hnshandry and intermtl coin meter. But even If Ir,: C, had so asserted, h igh as his authority tea's, yet he (Mr. G.) belie ve d Ilia own knowledge of thi s su bj ect to be equal, and he felt himself to be totally di a different opinion._ ',he }hal. OontiTan had — argued in favour of the . , extentiPa of the China trade, that in I 1.,:i amounted only to 692,000/.sin 1803, to 1,30 0 ,'' . i'lL But it was owing to the Commutation Act; 0 should be recollected that the Company hadi, .buying and selling at disadvantage the mass! titres of this country;--particularly those of shire, which now petitioned,-not front eon!' cial Wildness, as the Hon. Gentleman tiler! , from- a ivisb' to aid the distressed inanufacts; the 'kingdoM, and an ainwillingness IP , 1 ? on account of partial flactuations, the bert t that . permanent system which . they enntl to be useful. The Honourable Gentle:ass., dilated on the increase of the exports trolls!. he hail stated that the exports, which is IT amounted only to 181,7001. in 1704 881,0001.5 and' MlBOO were at 1 ,700 0 t"' the Hon. Gentleman had selected the boil' it xi in'the'last year,' the e.xports . were '''' l 'O , mated at 1,100,0001. The whole 0U eluding private trade, 'and that o f .the C oo l' Commanders, was 32,000,0001.; in this °, 14 millions consisted of indigo.. 01 this, manufacture he thought it necessary t O P I I .words... In 1781. the Company 'were the `ol chaseri of this commodity : they after'''' ' it to the manuf ac tu rer s i n I n dia, and n'lle'" peered' likely to b ec o me an a dvantageou s ' of traffic, it was recommended to Lord C O ", to encourage its gr ow th an d s ale. T l ' l ' I li vious to tbe Act of 1793, and not to 64 14 the previous provisions of. the Compaq , crease of this article was t o be referred. ,'„ struction of St. Do m i ngo a l so h a d much in advancing the sale of this commodityiv the quantity. of cotton imported, it n' 11 %4 that the Indian cotton could not colur t ),i the American, and that great quantitiesfelli i unsold in the Company's ' warehouses. „ 1 1 ,, , there were 11QW unsold in their warehon".'„, bales of cotton, and 17441 chests of in't, l l imports of the four last years. And set t'; l , / the trade which was quoted as an induc e/n- 1i the British merchant to embark in which'were likely ,to produce such runlet!' Tc ' ofThe Hon,. Gentleman. had descanted on i f policy of suffering the Americans to liitt' d i •trdde, while the English Were exti ri c e ,' ( 0 Company were no parties to those P'" : 1 ",':, Il l Government which granted 'that pernt''''' ' , , o ' had - alone all "that lay in their power to . n ° ,','' b '-i , the 'effect of their tradim, , ,.. ' But it shu u '',,,'„io membered, that at the time when that pc'''d was granted, the french and Dutch 1 04 P p e sions in India 5 mid that our ports we r° ,', ° ,o to the Americans that- they might be 9 "4; tamers, instead of being the c'tistomeo "re Frenclyand Dwell.' . Afterwards, when. ti'` b r httionary war broke out, the Ameriett s d neutrals, had advantagei over us, 1 )' 1)° ,',4 °1 0 bled to., carry as belligerents, were exchnleu,i ie : ; which we, cireumSfance of neutrality, whieli LO`'" ' it R I much advantage over the Comp:ie.:, 11 " ;4 sunk by the Honottrnbis G e „ l l,, lii ",to ; ,"' l r ;' , l srlint . had been r' the . increase ? The 1 16 ,'i of Gentlemen, selecting those years w hich. ne' o o ed his urose, stated, that in ISOO 1111 ' 1 .0 to 19 lacks, in 1809 to 95 htel-; ; lot Ito • ' ~ il' ; c ' imp o rt leaf review of the doctiments -:(`` o p, that in 179 L-6, it amounted to 19 b' 4l " , ' `t l 1808 had only increased to 63 hicks ' n- psitl to be observed, that a very t r,-' , )r7i. ...,,b a the American export t o• int la, teas ,,. 0 0, 411 lion,--- a ,Yery small (Pluntity in P e t " v ' A ii) ri ', ' nufacttget,i. it was a .singular rac` ‘ ' i ~:si, t experience of 'forty years eneblell I ` ; ''''',, Sl l l duce, that the exports from 011 1 "` 2 „ t r istl i ' world had not increased within r l ''''' t f",:,.tte was in India in 1763, and hod, w i ,'" ii-c : tim e ' that 0 , In the affairs of the Company " nes ' he was fully able to advance this stateluen,o 0 alone, in his mind, shewed hoW little 0 expected from an opening of the trade., ~r ed Where were other reasons for the In', o/ the American trade. The first was,' ° or ,. United States had, on account of the o v access for a considerable time, to South A ' is from which we were excluded. It mot,: considered, that the great increase of tie of the United States gave an incret'c 11° sumption to the imports from India. to ,complain of the in::.nner in which the llonuiti Gentleman had quoted from the• Ifixet( the Court of Directors to the House t. ',V inOns. He had quoted merely the loss t''', (lien trade for one' or twa.years, withou t 1 1 0 the produce of several years, When it " I ,o' 'lasing trade. It appeared, that an the ~.1 ' there bad been a profit of considera l ', l / 4 . than. 100,000/. annually. lie wo uld 1111° i . this slid not include the Indian (W h i t 4 %milt( other Wise have been Unposed. lii I appeared to bins thet the profit 0 1 l ' i ! l ait wes„hy itself, an object of much intin''oo the Company ; but it was of great 'inle, l i ,'!' - etinneeted with the whole of tl:e In!rti'l 'itvl', When the n sae —ninpony were 'callei tti) o t i ° ltit' that, he conceived that they were- call,e' l l ei Ll' resign, a great 'deal more than the t'''ol' f i were called upon to resign the s‘ - stkll ''', of , i 'l 'rent in Bengal. Ile did not vt'l'-' l ' t • - t lle . : ns it he intended to east relleet ions 09 / 0 1 ; nottrable Proprietor fur the psrt he• i ''' ( sii i i 'but he could not ItY(oid i:01111)1Ait 11:' • i! i. ' having revived, upon till; c.e.::,,titi n ' i. . o l t controversies ,in which the ConitnY :i' engaged for the kg 18 years" 11 0' 1 ', J l t4 appeared 'to have been Completcdy OL I O!: Whether the trade ought:now to be e . 1 i 1,'",..f14,. , ; ther than ,was ever in conteniphition , 111 0 e. ~. 3 793, Win a separate quest ion : but t l° h)„, .confidently say, that nobody at that d,")c oi ter: templated its being ei;larged as far ni l t , t i l er , the consent of the COmpany. 11° !0f , etnild sett no beneficial pur wse in ripPiio , : — .' , 1 ~1 . 1 . HD 4 old disputes and controversies. 1 ' lir - '' t a 0' . 1 : Proprietor (Mr, flume) ,had treated f'''' cr iP.:, ject as if it had been merely a eonn ti n 'all.,.-: lion ; whereas every other Gentinm" p-ilef a livo , spoken, considered it !uprises 0P , i n iu!' or i i f involving the vital interests of t , l ' e tn iiatrA pire, and the Constitution of this ' f oe 4 1 11 4 ;i: come soberly ti the'coo,iiteration ' l t t han iy, as it now stands, he would sq tha rro a s n' ie q: rational prospect of increasingt he c - 4 , 0 t, J, ) q , materially, bcyoud what it-' i 3 at Pr I` lei , 8./. o o i . that it was hard to convince Getttl- ei ! o l f i u it, embarked in a cause, and heated 'their' "mmodities to ulltiodrAe.r,l,3:, SRI dele 8 3.1 1 Net