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A Private Box 'nay be had for the Se mu, or no:Lily, of Mr. brasidon, at the Boseotlire. Plana for ihe.Bosee in he taken r.f slr. Craiidun, at the Doa•Otber. Bari-stivet, hum Ter 01 Four. Roam ; S ,, ernid Prier. 30. 61—Pit, 3d. 6.1 ; Second Prise, e.—Galkee, te.; 'Second Pike, le.-I:pper le l ; Vesnit "Price. dd. _ . . The D;Jers will be opened al *Ulf Ina Six o'Clork, and Ott nay begia al Seven. TW1R414511111. Heart Quaint, with the BARN of Entruttleas. On Meisday. for Tragedy of Voriniur. On Thursday, The Cum.dy of Errors: Loci3us, bliss Tree Our first appearance this season). CM DG ES, 11/avost• A COMMON COUNCIL, holden in the CHAMBER of the GUILDHALL of the CITY of LONDON, Gm THURSDAY, the 19th day of Ochiber, HMO: r i ll lAT the conduct of Joseph ‘Vilfeeel Parkins, 1 Es(' during the time he has jointly filled the import. sot other of Sheriff of London ha been such as in malty resp. cts to excite the just displeasure of this Court, and the crestAt regret at his appointment— that (lie dignity of the Wire has, to Lis hood., hero fur collets, sod the Livery of London been exposed to version, by his iiiconsisieut sued unbecoming behaviour. Resolvtd nitatiimously—Thst the II mks of this Court he presented 1u Richard Hollowell, Esii Alderman, and late one ..I the Sheriff. of thi• City and County of Middlesex, for the dignified, temorrate, f othful, mid impartial manure or Islam!. he hoodoo-filtered the various and important Cellos wf the office of :Motif, resohirrit more thin usually ardu ous, not wily by the critical state of the p l iblie t ranqu ill i ty, but by en.. altsuatieem shuck inetesreil the responsibility tre erste,sly ilk, kidaist npon the Shriesalty, at the lieritul of him entering autos it—for the liberality whirls bus distinguished hie realer.; cuuditel.-most for his heroug epee. all occasions (.11.1,13)1 d the most cheerful attention lit the littesests of the Corporaituo,soil the Rights sod Privileges of his Fellow citiems. Ord.-rasl—That the seti.l flew*lotion he fairly traneeTibed. astard by the Town Cies k, anti preveatesl to the late Mersa; Mr. Alalgratan Rotbril. WOO °THOR PE.. POET WINE OF FINE FLAVOUR AND FULL DODY, AT 34.. PI.II DUZLN. rrIHOIIAS AND ItICHAILD ABBOTTS respectfully inferno their Feu awls and the Pairlie its petters!, that they have commenced buttliwe 100 Popes of IM above Wines, which are all of must exrclleut quality. Families whip wish to lay In their 'Moder Stocks are tweprettilly solicited to friewarel their Wirril per Ilatter. or to eel at No. 10. Stintter.steret. to taste the shame Wises. the quality of which is far supe►ior to soy other that have beers imported of the lost threw Vintages. other Wises at equally low prices. mid of the fint..rate qualities. IT EST STREET BENEVOLENT SOCIETY, FOR RELIEVING THE SHE point wiTHIN ONC MILE ROUND THE cIiAPEL. ON.SUN DAY NEXT. Übe u...ount. TWO SERMONS will be peemebed on behalf of 'hie Suesetv, at the Free Chapel, West slowl. M. Giles's: that in the Morning by the Rev. JOHN CLEM EN O 0,1; awl Hoot in the Erceisie by the Rev. WILLIAM CURN Seu. or of St. Clew.. nt Danes, Stroud, and Minister or Weil. street Cleepel.—Service begis• is the bluretag at Eleven .'CWA ; iu tbe Evesin at Half past Nit. THE OUTLAW OF TAURU4. This day is publ aheih in Aro. price :is AL sewed, Tll F: OUTLAW at TAURUS : a To wheels is Galled, SCENES LOMM SO OC ES. By TIiOMAN DAM, Of Belie% College, Catobrolze. Arthur of " The ‘Tolow of the City of Plaits." " This lay eon vas dead. and is sits arils ; he WIR4 La, seal is feed:'—Linsr.. 14. _ . Printed Inc J. IC Iltichasason, No. 23, Curnhill ; J. Hetehrird, Psecadily; Mrsare. Deg auss stud Puler, Caerbrike. SOCIETY FOR TIIE DISCHARGE AND RELIEF OF PERSONS IMPRISONED FoR SMA LL 101'1'5, C street, Stroud, October 4, 1920. BENEFACTIONS SINCE TIIE LAST REPORT, via. t a. d. ALP Nr.. Tamer Mr. John Dawklas .. Mrs. Bar her Ann. 2 0 0 Was. Coll Pastern, Esq. per *cretin), A. 2 2 0 N. Marjoribauks, Esq. 31.1'. per iliou A 2 2 0 Sassiael %meal, E.q lO Pt o Huntley Fryer , Egg A 1 1 0 James Gorey, East per Doretra tail Cu A. 5 0 0 Alm Laagbas I. 2 2 0 Richard Lee, E.l 3 3 0 Silesia* rowan, E.q pia IMO inure and Cis Willi las Leckie, Egq. per ditto l. 2 2 0 •Erlisard --, Esq. 2 2 0 Y. G. per Werke anti Cu. 11. A.s. per &nu 2 0 0 S. G. per "Frealwrer G. 31. IS. Ig.—N. N.l/ 2 1 0 W. T. 15.1. —R. Y. (Annual) 25 r:. C. per Secretary .. , A 5 5 0 A Prnanse M. U. a hue Irurn a flat itury.tuachiaais 0 5 0 £l4O 0 0 Diwherrrd end Tteriere.! frr•rn woriowe Prisms 58 liebtore, tur the stun ....... €317 19 2 Copeldrred the ..... Petitioners, Apstetreett 1t•-jecte.1 17 Inarherissiblr. Behr factions are feCt t4l by J. Camden Neahl, Ey the Tresoure-r, Cloloc . w.v.k, Ch. litts •ill,O by Mews.... Wylie., FArlinhar, and Ca. St. James's.sireet ; Memos Hoare*, Fleet. street ; Hei rs. Whitmore and Co. Lumleard-sheet ; Messrs. Cocks's, Bader, and Cr,. Cieirinperass; Stews. parries and Co. Finch-tone. Cornball; Messrs. Manamersleys, Pall.ruall; Memos. Ver....and Cm 77, Lombard-streri; and by Mr. Gratz. wel, time Socroosey, No. 7, Craves-street, Strand, where the hooks may he seen by those who are teclisied to sopport ibis Charily, and there the Swirly meet nu the first ITcdoesday everyay month. • The Secretary will thank this Centleraem for his name, as at has by some Accident beau omitted in the Books. THE QUEEN'S TRIAL. HOUSE OF LORDS, TIIVIODAY, Orr. lg. The f . o,d Chancellor entered the linage at lea itleek.— Plovers ..re rend, and the nadirs called ever. The Ironns,l were in, Alltenef&scogOnntookplacelwtweentlw.Lordelwwwellor and Mr. Hoinchens, as Si the moaner in Which the Comma were to resume the conduct of the prueeedindi. It elided to enlline the Cowin.' to the hat, *ben the Lord Clntimeelloi informed the frowned Counsel for the elefewee.tiel the goes. time proposed to the wieners yesterday la the present state of ttie t .e p.ncertletogi emit Pill be put. Mr. !trona/hist, ash!, thid independent of the "amnion, into the mortideratiou of which their Lottlebips had hero drawn by misconception yesterday, he had another mowing' to soilteoit in them of a tidally It Berens nature from that which hut turn Enna'henry *erne& He wished to stele It mow, merely with a ewe to the convenient* of their Laid. rhipe. The rptemiMe whorls bad been over.reeled, he took to be ski.: Orityllirr they runld Wallowed to ask a witness oboist whet Z,.,. had told the witness Ilint Brown had totel Zang• Lu Shunt they were rot shard to shrew what Cul. Drown hail t"id 211 "e'it sty tssrnioiat Miuni, withrost . fie eallint &mot. Noe , whet they hind to sobatit to their lordships way that th i s point vas ant raised at lilt by them They warrele knieW •knw their lordship, had been led toes, the Consideration of thus questiia, foe in fuel thew ertention hail stothine "to do with char Cullum.' Doom bait mull to Zinc*. The point which i.e had redly in mthosii, and which upon so prineille. he appieltended, could br ruled stained throe, was this—lf they could by the arts of Tutitra prove that he had been a very metier eie•nt of Shia—which he called fur a/nineteen a ....pimple/ley—though he knew he was not allowed to assume in fart that their true'', he any ennspir The Attorney (lesiertil interposed. He apprehended that there runid he nn sediment. A operation had been put tun witteree--it boa been "hies-tett by himself and Isis Learned Friends, and nvir.rolint by their lorelnlops. It was ne to state anuthet upiertioss before there could be any ardsmeol. Mr, flemozbain said, shut was just the way in which their lordships were led astray )esterilay. Me, Williams was mispiod jo%l at the tints. that Le was phoceediati to Lay the proper question before their Lordships, and 4 point raised whirls it ea. • their intention to diorite. and upon whirls their lordultip• were needlessly called to deter mine. If his Learned Friends savant to rime forwatd and ' object, they shoed.' first listcu sod learn what it was that they Mine to object to. TA, Aitustiey-Ceaeral ash]. that his Learned Friesas tin She other stile rhuttid pti.irwrd ity steps. Lill theme prove first, if tisty curld by Altuni t that Zano baJ acted as as agent. The Solicilifrfleneral followed on she mane side. A• to tX reflection thrown upon the conduct of baronet( and hie flimiciorable 1ri....1p, its the COMM of these pineredioltd. they bail been called opus. by their Lordships in support the Bill. The Haase h.d determined to conduct the ettainitio tows standing In she rifles of evidence observed in the Courts below. It was the tarty of the Connsel Intrusted with the enrolee' of the propitiation In object to any ques tion nut ailnitssible by this • robs of evidence, 10%11111g the &mien as so the prisprii ty or potting suet; question■ to their Lordships, soil haring no interest whatever in that derision. Mr. Williams hoped that their Lordships would Was the swimmer I. The boa Chant..llor t►ry prompity declared that he fur tree epporrd it. 'ihry had ■lrewdy expended to, snarls time its e alresilleeraed . neeleee dueesseeion. The Oration pat had bete ear•reaird, II •iahcd the Cuomo,' to so en to the eras eistratiun. ' Mr. Williams th dared, that, f.nm iris having been pre. /waited from ttaiing what he was shunt tut state, which woolsl have had the • fleet of .hewing how far Zeno% agency might be proved, their Lordshope were lid into a misconception„ sod an argiimeat was mused ou the other ski, whorls bad n.h. Ibtug tu du wills the euhkes be was about to lay before their Lordship* lie pledged himself to that fact. E.rl Grey said, that as it appeared to him, the gerstion had been totally missine.e.sint.d. The tell question was now, as to the silencer of adotititut pr.wf that Zing. was * coo. spirals* at-tiost the Queen, and in emsfuousity with the ontitiam wheels the Suave bad pronounced, the Learned Coarse! egatn•l the 8.11 orght optu the nature of the erhouttle tu Lordelsire, by which they proposed to slow their right t 0 ht log the evident, to prove 7.r;a . . altencY in the conspiracy. It apoteared to him that. according to the op;. nitre given by the Judges, Mr. Brunhaos had a tight to be heard urn that paha. The Lao I of Isverpool canto/mart, that Ibis was a new lAA atmmalohe measure, to heeits a us a ease its the cosine if the divert ease for the def. nee, whirls as. not itoeltuled in the opeaiitg of the defence. by which he apprehended, if he understusent the vissaistsi of the Judge* telstly. they acre I•mited is the case far the as:fel:re. lie an, eratood from the Judzts that if were ilotroded to prate conspiracy the rhatge of con.isirary most be Vic:hard its the ritelting speech C.:. the derma.. A. far as he could r. cull. ct the words of %Ir. Ps trochee' they were 5.. tido.. Feet :—. l I do nut charge any Parties with a chospirace. hut if there were a rowspitary, the acts of the whist wouttl be just a. have hceit cotausithd tai • CCII•it/A: . I!. ApVlrl.rAded that the Chemise! fur the Clutch could nut be allowed to persue the course ru ins...al by them. Lord Erskine tletiOrd that this was n new and anamalott• 'l"enlinn• lie e'l.a ' , all, at admit that the question of get. ire frhm %liana hat had tooen froth Coluitel Brow. in hie couture:than a I II 7u.ea , ems vets po ',petty uverru!ril. Kit the sea•ts mow oill. red au. A ..eee te a., 'ho rn e t-. y that id proving 7Allta to be sit agent in the conspiracy: This the or hail a right to 4... either hy h.gioentg with the re. metal evotirher. aO.l ham( the arts upon the iudividual, or by fink( IsfuVlAl( She 1111111 ag. hey. Their load. ships were to suppose a ruse tod toolietinent fur conspi. racy, nod then Oh, would the list the evidence a!!ainst the eon.pirstore might he taken in soy .'ruler which should be those., by the Chesnut for the prumout . Ile denied that a chanted was limited by bow opeettig, sum ch ma to Ilse proof of a conspirsey The ton.itsmcy milli, route to his knitseedge only a moment hefts'e he had concluded its% dt-te‘ce. Was i.e then t o h e ex ci t o r .' f el on the wood' of if, myridy because the guilt of the prosecutor was out k ' , own till love its the meantime! The Noble Lord contended that it was eruipetriti fur Chen. set to say *hat they were about to proves, hot !teethe made a rs eider virtuous!. protcycol azatosot the idea that that house ass to be coluoiselled by the dudge• iu a great pro. creolthe like the present. The Conrad uui;ht to have sufS. a tent 13111 itd , conolosetine his The Etrl of Lauderdale said. Le lisle stealer o i.j ee ti on t o the Counsel mt •itoe upend m.okinga lone argument previous It. pyithig the tiursiteo, nor that tnevit.tbly led to a replica tion from the Counsel us Cie other side, which chtorely stop. pt the poucced•ro!!.. [The common ..1 the Jul!ge4 wag then read at the desire of a Ntlesdr t'rer.] The Lir: of Darn!ry said he 11:601,114 think himatifJefie:rnt :n I i duty if to. !lid not take the raj hest . x . pro•s.i.gg his sllo.rtsi from the To.,po.4trots of the NUI:1!! EA, I orporlie. If Iv- 1,•::::tly 111,4100.1 the Noble goer, br con tended ttr.l !h. it were trot et linerty in that in. rpm, to rotor any r xreninattoo not opened by the Leariird Cote•toet at the bar. Ile dot ersorrive that It was utterly itutan.sib c to go on c itb that r trraurifinary sad tinily. cedeincit pr. ci.cding soy hope t,t olutog j twice, if the tointsel *cr.. to he precluar.l from 'wincing forward any evidence which they might think e•••rnlt4l, allkollVt it had not bccsi stati.d in the oreiting. Ile had bored and treated Thal bin: ere 'hi.. lime a pininwition. Poi Cum the side of the House ill which he had the honour to sit, but rout. its; with authority—he repeated ha hod bopert, that see ing the heritirstirory of the evidence for be Bill, mad the nastier it bad keel sluice by tie evidence fur tie de. . he the *me as to all the patsies who were earned is f 1; HS effect in this ramie +mild he the p.m.., and therefore. he ' eriatended he ha I a right to pr,ive it. ifiitoisid the Attorney. General, " Why olon't you rail Zimra"—What I call bim '— him, the very ear tie shorn my (hared wills the erima hien to prove it by evidence of his owes arta! Coati , his loaned Fronds aloe soloed tha, Move been sinilying those very eases' 1.. a hurls they had r. revved > fled they Hove Coma ihal Mr. Thelwall, or Mr. Tooke. or any of the parts.. cheroot with the Prime, bail het n taken tram the dock and placed its the willows box to prove their own acts is evidence of that chaoge i They charged She galls of this • manirairacy against Zama—and had lie been a perraol 'ambient lw this tannery, or within else range of tie law,', or the readi Of its legal power, thee wrothil hare plural loom at the hie Its a/ewer that charge. Bat it was really ton much to rnppu.af ' I.ving where he slid, mint of reach of the ernrante of Use laws, that he would readily comply with any is. Oltation, or letter missive, he come a n d place Mengel , it their her to give evidence of :leis conspiracy, when the *eight of the charge lay agaisat lontsrle each a ga l a, laugh* be pole* new to him. But he hoped the Attorney.Genorral Is his reply would show him she rule ..f law lie teed relay dis diserreed, by witirh the crime .barred against any proem was he prevail by she evident.e of the individual himself. In sit the grate trial., and all prom-aims for conspiracy of oimitar Pat wee, evolettris was always gone in to of • the general l state of the ereontry, sad of a variety sir acts of various per anns in doffetent part., in order I. prove a roisopitary ; wires thee any ormaxion exiated between that conspiracy and the person charged, appeared afterwards. As the charge of con. "piracy necessarily involved more than one person, lulus by some axtrasontiesary good fortune it Incense passib'e to take them all together, lite mucosity of the cue wort.' oblige them to be hunted down need proceeded egoista use by one, se they could Ike discovered; and in this way moat the con. @piracy he first of all proved, and that once demr, it only re 'naiad for them afterwards to rbsw the particular connexion of each separate ineltvidual, as ihry were placed nos trial, with the :moral plot. Thu., he neutered. 01, was the comae pursued its all such cues; and voles' this practice, and the rule laid down by the indult, un which it was founded, were proved to be erroneous, he comended this evidence must be admitted. He hoped his Learned Friend, in Gn awer, would confine bra reply to what he had said and what he really menu', and not again contend against what he had nut said, nor against incomings he glean* had concerard. Mr. Stoneham raid he would he brief in the comment he had to make spun the pain statement of the argoomoni by his friend Mr. Willoatoe, not to waste their Lordalops' lime. What they any sought was to implicate Zanga. To Mph. rate by this evidence either Coloutt Brown, or the Milan Commission, was not their object at portent, whatever it weight !terraria become; bat it do i nut follow that because tio•I did not scek to fix the conepiracy amen them, that they were to be precluded from fixing at upon any other person. If misty could show that any peison had done any act 'effecting the peacetimes in this cape, such as obstruceing or tampering with the witnesses fur the de feat, or briblag or suborning, or sittnipting to Indic or subteen witnesses to give evidence in support of the Bill, he cared nut what his name might lie, be contended that they had a right to give evidence of that act. If he could prove that Zanga had made the offer and the &Thermion inn. puled to him, be did contend that he had a right so to do ; and the only way to shut him oat from praise' it, the only Way to keep out his evidence, was by declaring, that erns admilling it to he proved, it was molly irrelevant to this ease, and could nut at a;I affect the 'sans now before them. Yon must be prepared to say that, or mho ranee you cannot shut out this evidence. And luk ran any man so say? I pot it to any individual—the Judges—l mean those Noble peewees who are toiled& this question. Let any man ask him self this question, whether he would ant pause the more be fore passing this Bill, after I shell have proved tits tale, whirls you have wily heard in statements, throe of lie bad never had it broneht in Ma knowledge. What is it lam offering' I ans offering proof of a man who is making himself an agent—l care not whether Brown le, or who are his em ployers; I may bereafeer fix him with that alor, but I begin with the proof of what he (Zings) did. sod I say, even if I am lever able to bring it home, I ask, if any man wutild nut patoe the more tiller what l fix nu Zraga ? What is said to have been done? Swear you 'gamut she Prince,. of Wales and you, shall have a reward " Say* the man, " I cannot, I rrrrr saw her, I know nothing agaiat her, I armor wee at her place of abode" Say. Zang% What signifies that, I will supply you with that knowledge, I will take you to the place of her 'thud., where all the witnesses have been, and she is said to go on this promeoade with Brawn as well as with other men and women, all yon have to do is to say what I shall tell so., and you shall have these Napuleons--eoune let a l e and fix a place, fir it is true sloe was there at a raisin Issue, and a'l rot have to do is to add (and which I admit is not true, but it is what you have to say) that you saw &Irian atilat• her Royal Highness—kiss leer." Suppose I prove this, and its order to 'hew that I have a right to prove it, you mot assume I east prove it. You most be prepared to say, that it will nut better the Qteeom's defence and not damage the prosecution. Is it nut monstrous' Can any man depart the it will make a difference in the ease Can any wean lay his hand opals his heart and say, according to his conacience, and upon his homier, and giv ing his vote for or against the Bill which is to ruin ibis Queen, that the having proved such a story as I have now stated would nut make the greatest difference its Ins judgment ! My friend, must be prepared to my that it will nut make the slightest difference in the issue now before yam. I say I go a great way if I can prove that means have been take te to bring perjured wilnemes before you. My Lords, it is said we mat assume the p resibiliiy of a conspiracy on booth sides; and it is said, may out all this have been got up in ender fur ale to raise this olij viol,. This proceed. from the effact of the s yobnice, and the questims of its.eum. patio yor itocompeteoley. Brit, my Lords, 1 pray you to distal., such auspicious from your nand., and I will put one questiate, whleh, if I do out greatly deceive myself, well 11•. we the arm! of allaying it. Ido not deny 114 porribility of comptracy us the part of the Queen—l have no doubt but that in • legs! argument you Mort adroit the possibilit", and that it will weigh a loth! its the scale in dealing in a nowt of law. Du your Lordships think it very likely, w likely al to make it worth consedering in the coarse of this legislative procetolisra—du you think it likely that the Queen its March, ISIS, before she was put upon her trial, and whets there was no chance she would be put sin her trial, and be fore the Milan Commission had proceeded one step, that the should have breast) provident, mu lodate to discover a defence against charges which, fur any thing d.ekarw, might wryer be mole; so very circumspect, so extremely ionvident,lhat she Almelo/ foresee that in July 18'.10 procco ditip sere la he instituted against her, whirh I am mire the Wapiti, and the has wise, perhaps the more probable, to •err road have thoonglot of. That she should lie folic the recor.ls of Pao hammot, looking at H' °nett'. case in one taw, end Bishop A tterhisry's in another, sod lois said to herself, " It Is very likely there will he another such procearlong as there was in former times, mud then, as it wilt he brought forward% I shall I.e aware bow to go on ; and my Leather' ekonesel will be able to du nuthing without maleroals, suit, therefore, must send soul Leidy to go to Zsnza, and isiVeigle Zat.ga i stn o conifers:Aloft, •nil then that may afterwards avail my Counsel." My Lords, if she did so, she era some. thing more 'ban the must proVi•lcilt of human kind ; blot if She slid so, it wail certainly not the wisest step she could lake, fir she was enakierg toeranoS to Ming things 'masa her. My Lords, Idu nut deny boot that there things sue possible, because there is nothing t!..it it not posaohle, but I would only submit that that morsiboly is of a •pecirs which lawyers denominate airy mid remit.. possibilities. It Is necessary that your Lordships should keep tram your minds any supposition that we sue impeaching Colonel Brown, but that we are defending the Queers,. kk'e are offering evidence to defend leer fiajrsy. Your Lord:hip. Petscf( 7(1. mia.tritk•rAre that Iron do 1.01 torn morel rm. , p r sr e is in thesitsration isf prosecirt , o., and the oiloq• -ole she drew. ;butts. We. are Only Intelee sea an mach eeee t • ..1e,..• el r !y .1, is. I airy In defend the (Aileen—we are atilld•todards, they are ! atilt the proserwrrur 1.40 yr ' Thy A ttonsey-Mm•ral —Whatever nri•ondrutdaudirly might have prevmded I oil 'venire on ti.,. fir.“4l ~,,, I trend sr • Learned Friend. with nut lir, r .fter root t il .o, /bit it .nekee not • our been dir•rurt•rd ..n all el. E folela./4 I elefea fin., a ever , to have been a turrourl Tarim ti..‘ on the rutirjer - t 1 fir re els ' be so throb, shat %Tr %Vl",anla sm., rl %••tm.l,y that re ! port. uterr.b•trott evritrorur no lid. purr ..f Orr rise. llow ! had he arened it to .I” ? %Irby. I admit Shit 1,. Ills aim 41 . 1 it legally, bit my f.imol. 1:r. linmeham. cr. a rip Me. Willeumr * 4 urturrrerd, and h•• srett..d fir t h e heel harborer r behwe noir lorgirdrip., that whettor 1eg,14 or iii,.r.,11 the I evidence most he admitted ..n principle, whirl, prompt. his • 4 preyed( ti in the previon• part of tots sogno!. I my. isy Lords, that Is not to Is permuted, for if lest., had • . I intended Ora dews to le. opturerl, you • , .rsold have ore•ed It rat the Iteginniog. You 112., heard if a rompiesry of ! the Milan Courtmirmiutt, bur trow that Is abr.:4 , l,rd. and ' ii is to b • • enitepirsey of Z toga, and a co , einrsey us' i other persona who are whol's rineomierleil ari!h !It ,i tom ! moismii. Whitt winuld have been the laisausz• of my iirsin Leariowl Frisorl if we had brauglai evideurt• iii a hit pee s had heard respectine the combed of the Queer. ? W. littotild have tomt met. a••d moist property met, by Mr. .Ibeesielisat sating, .• Stop, *top! we (monist !terror , y"e to give 0141 evidence'' So 1 ea, here, ft it imgmobte to per mit th is reot,ore In ter f•er ••..d. Thior • vukurre would sot be received is the Court• below, and Illfeer WO*, my Lord., ia L. r ig are iirting as Jude. a, I li.epa and 1.110 i - no Well nol allow My Lords, we have ou eel& Ore Ow wry rrf thus wit. messes who ha,. lie. it cammini tt were srehnrio d by any per goo. according to their Hsu • rid•nee. Mr. Rom/limo atys, .We don't aecioe Vibmoesti or Wolin. " Why, .bat lave they been doing for the.e list slicer or four days but motes rouring to implicate them in a disbulical c dt , purter ! Your Lordships have hero draws. away from the inquiry of the Qtweii's case. before the taw fur the dill:sore is ha tune through. The reason for so (Mime is oilstone. I dot not say they ought to roll Zings, bug I mid it they did not rail his they ought to call evidence to prove that his ails were whom, 4 by the Mll,l.in Commissoni. Sometimes the no t apiraturs are the Vilest Coninsisstua, at others they are 24ima sad his funds, and person. we eta Itsiow uothiog ..r. My Lards, the case for the prusecutioa ha* lima ritstrieted to the strictest confines of law, aid yet your IdOrdahlrel are to permit my Frieada to depart frum those roles in the middle slif she defence, Itemise they sty it may weigh on your minds hereafter. The Earl of Himunghmnre •aid, be untold shortly state why the queation thuwld n•rt be pat. The Coriiiord fur her Royal Highness bid alleged a (nap', scy, and had rose boo the particular statement, and bid placed themselves moiler the decision of the Judea. Their Lordships were, t erefs..re, in fall possession of every part of the rare as ii related tus the ronapirary. He an, at a am then to I; raw her such srai deuce as bad been propotod could be received, a ' , riot Ih. ir Lordships went the length of itilencluing err y king of ewi. deuce, even to the length of a • unless deposing, that a mu told bum that another man told him that there was a cira apirary; or that they would to the kneels of saying, if . Counsel stated that a conspiracy bad ex. siert, tl eir Lord ships would admit any eyeliner- he thought prhper to pro duce. They mast ul r this, before they alhwed she witness to Sell them what Zags told hum. Their Lesslabipe tallow nothing of Zulu; he was in no away connected with this ease; the witness miebt at well talk of any other men at Milan as of Zanga. He sieved that their Lordship• ought In look at the evidence of the %classes in support of the Rill with the greatest cantina and suspicion ; for it did ap pear that sumo agents its support of it had acted inipro mily in collecting the witnesses. He was not, hammer, prepared to repudiate the wbule man of evtilemire, became some part of it ought nut to be believed, on account ui agent. liaviug gar further than th .ir instructions. CAP. *piracy errtainly was a bird wer.l--n laisgi; —hot wh..t did it consist of that sum , agent, brisg over araloa•, departeil from his instructions, and fur having done so their Lordships were railed on to denominate it a conspi racy against the Illustrious Perannsge A r.rn•lnucy been alleged, but, in his Laud, nut made out; for the last Eve or six days every part of her n 4,3 fer.u.e haul been furgntten by her Counsel, ■kid thee• had Area to J it wee because some of the evtdeure of oh, witnesses In air port of the Rill had been diserieuLted, sti.d that they (use Counsel against the Rill) would turn the tables out thrill, and prove a conspiracy; but before they coati do that, it would be their duty to roasters she euo.piraiors mith !Le ocereditril agents of the Government. Ile was, therefore, of opinion, that the coalition ought not to he put to ti.o witness. Load Easkine said he could not azr,e with the areanitrat or the Ait.oroory General, or the conclusion th a t the Not Earl (Dononghmore) hail come to. In his opinion Vie 'warped .Jude,,g is their decision on the cie.tion he hail pot to them, had solmitted the right of the ea 1.11,11110.1.1 as fol• lowed up by her Alojegig's Counsel, and ii that lit Ott& • i• sot given, • conspiracpmevcr could be pro*. 01. Tho Lord Chancellor observed, that if rot arts of 7.10ra were received in evidence, it would eertculy be a novelty In the judicial proceedings of the couutry. (in what ground it amid be received he was at a Ivan 119 conjecture; Co if she witness was allowed to deport-. to whit A B. said, fie would be entitled to depose what was said by every person. lire first letter of whose name could be tumid in the test if the alphabet. in respect to agency, there was no proof of its ever having existed. Then as to the conopWary, be btd always conaiderrol that coospiratin• wise agents to lane another, but here there was no agency proved; as to offering to prove that people in Italy thought they might obtaio great advantages if they dad en and mu, was proviognothisir ; and VIII was allowed in one instance, they might tall avrofy person inhabiting that pint of the continent to the sate fact. In inippuit of this opinion, he would propioe an anonymous lase fur the cosisideration trf their Loft'. ships. lit opening this else, it was strongly stat..d that the Illustrious Perso11:11;:t. ha 4 Contrived to mod sway her F.ngli.h attendants fair the purpoie •f takihg Derglion's (tinily and other foreigners tote her ser vice; much strew tertaiely bud been laid ora this ell - economizer by the Counsel in monied of the Bill. lady Linoliooy and otlms'of her Royal Ilighttem's attendants were afterwurda ex minted to this point, and it arpeated they had let her service from motives on their ties nitride. What would he said then if a witness was rafted In say this he heard Ilergsmi say that her R oyal llochness did pro rot ad' her Enghoh attendants fur the purpose of tatawilueilig to a family into her service ; would it be fur a moment attnaset ' Certainly nut; thew was no differvasee between the caw he had put as it bore nu evidence, from that and.? licit roe - sideration, and if their Lordships allowed the Mil to he t it rot of by soils means, be had no hisitotion in saying would be acting tiptoed every constitutional peitsciple. . . . . Lord itmaeorl.iit raid these wt. 111.1 widerce tV etWarCe rine& with the peoceedirizt. Thews i f the was 0 .• lowed to be post to the wit.ieee, rt wash! be rteritine deuce eel wive toe penult lAA' knew nothipe of she lotions..., foe which pnloots it teemed to Its Ii it it Mae ilap.nuble the evidence could be allowed. Earl Go .y ssid„ that wk3t he wniteratood by the deenl o n it the Jud d *a was, that evidence to inure the autonomic.' of informs , ' should bt allowed; with thi• limpet:mart of his mind, he was or Apiftwri Shia this erist nee csabl mot he received. lie did trot *cm that she C 4*le put be the Ntitite and Learned Lord int the 1 1 1'neibitek was analogous to this ; fm the evidence bur: was to more slim T. MIA Wm* eneagist is. a esinipssary ; but bt sse twit read be reLe:ved, it ain't be proved dim he will moistend limb some nits e' r nsi on s. Meh had not been dome, tie a eunaptrary ramie co...id of more than one proems. It was not m (rids:nee that Zugs was tinnier,. d wish the agents idtioserninent, or wt .% any nil re re. or ; big having elms oat a the how* of Vitas- LONDON, FRIDAY, OCTOBER freer, to base heard a proposition from the Noble Earl opposite to relieve their Lordship, from the painful sibyl. lino he which they stood. He hoped the Any was lint tar distant when he should hear such a proposition made; but in the interim It was their duty hi girt every latitude tol.tie defence. The Lord Chancellor said, that persona in the situation of J en nl.l not hope to commund respect sinless they shear. ea tine respect to others. lie thorelbre thought it right ter obserre, that having misunderstood Mr. licough im, he re. 'retied that he had done so. It was yesterday decided by their Lordships, that evidence of whet had horn called a con. 'piracy should he heard. He had differed on that ovation with the opt, t i 0000 of their Lordships, and though it was ex tremely paintist for Isom to differ, yet no slur, no ro. loony should eser pr. veld him skring what he contd. tiered Ts be his duty. The qnestion which had been nli jetted to might, in his opium', be pot with another view, and it was competent fur the Counsel nut to retake soy general ()profile of conspiracy, ►ut shortly to aisle 11w error . and that he wit +boat to prove so and so. Ile would say nothing about the evidence on this case; hist, unless the view who h his experience eastilcd bon to take WWI wanly 1°,1 . .11110115. Ibrre was as mock difference in the evidence to be received nudes. a• uuli(b•eot for • con. j ',rinse!, and the present procreilisap, as possobly could exist. I Hi. Lordatiip acknu•ledgial tkisbag • ornspiraey was ease blialserl, it would he their duty ais look wills the ;stalest jra. I' lowsy crew nn that part of ibe case to which the evidence of 1 conspiracy still not apply; bat he curia not go DO far as some !Coble Lords, who melted as if conspiracy brine rata. Wshed, there remained soothilie in the case worthy of cusiside. raisins. In the view hr Groh of the piestion now before their Lordship, it certainly was competent to Counsel to state shortly the point 1.. whirls he ass about to *ltemise, mad to vs into the proof that Zola WIIII I conspirator. Mr. Williams sowed, that he was shout to examine as In Ilsr derlsratious of Z otha himolf to She W1101.. 4 , and bad I brut the preliminary questioie of what was said by Zagora to the withem, whim au object Mil was made, soil socceathilly made, by his Learned Fro oil the Atturuiry-Gruesal, Slid 1 a discussion anise un the supposition that he had buss Ishout to do that of which he bad never even dirani• ed. He was about to 'naming to the fact that ZAllitS had a•krd the witness to depose against her Majr.ty . . and on the einem objecting that he knew no eircunisiasces, Zan g 3 replied, " Thxt la nu maitre, I can lake you and *hew you the ground., and you may fix on any place in chicle you have urn them embrocioz." So that all was se ageism 7.otgi, and unt Culithel Blown; and it nave's was wpered w The Lord Chancellor—What are the terms of the pus. timi y.. 0 propose to pot ? Mr. %Volliumsl•3l,l he should pot the same question. The qurstiou was reed by lb. elsori.haud Ivo 'ter— What aid be say to poi se the lime! The Attorney ilen;ral said he must .gain el+ et to that question, on the same emends as he objected yesterday, for his Learned Friends had nut carved the argument a whit Gaither than they thee did. lie concluded by calling their Leord.hips' sovietism to the mode In which it had been argued by his Friend Mr. Tyndall yesterday, and they would see Ihsl the objection was in substance the same upon which their Lordships had decided against the question. The SolicitouGentral said, he would, with their Lordships' yormionon, sill a few observations to those which had fallen from the Atturoey-Geueral. Toe nianner in which he •p. prelsendrul it to have been state el by hp. Learned Friend, Mr. IVillisinr, that this evidence ooelit to be admitted was, that it was competent to them to prove, first, the exhaence of • (wispiest,; and next, that the individual alluded to ems a party in tint conspiracy. He admitted, that if they could drew that such a conspire:, iv.r did exist, and if they could also *hew that individual to have been a party I it, then 'piracy world he evidence. But hie Learned retro& as. slimed the whole grounds of the case ; they assumed that a couspiravy bad been entered tutu, for the pm purr of suborn ing witnesses to give evidence Remold their client; they assumed that Zanea was engaged in that conspiracy, and they asked their Lordships on the faith of these assumptions, to It t in a string of evidence, convulsing that person's cau date. But he conteoded it wita necessary that those points should be fully proved before that evidence could be let la. The Learned G-iettemais then referred in support of his ar. Ailment to Phillips's Rules of Evidence, from which be read a lime extract, beginning, to page 76 iu one edition, sod page 94 in the sobsecrient edition. All that he was eleeirums In do wan to premiere a clear sod distinct understandieig of this questiou IWWWSC their Lordships ; and if his Learned Friends had convinced them th there had been suck a con 'piracy as they spoke of, and th et Z logs WAS a party to it, he did nut stand there to centred that this would DIA be evidence. Bid wee there, Is fret, before them any evidence which would moving* say wan whatever of the existence of such .conspiracy? And if there were no evidence of that kind, still less did It appear that &riga had been en gaged in it. For all that appeared on that pinto was, from the embleme of the last witness, that on coming down stairs be bad said sonsethini. Were their Lordships on such Emma& to take it that a conspiracy was proved Was that evidence to induce them to fix upon say indi vidual a charge ago Week a nature ? It was the first time he hail ever heard of a couspirary being so proved—it was the first tone he hauls re knows. it attempted n. maintain that this was sufficient to jssttfy the letting in of such evidence as it was now roughs to lay Wore their Lordships. If from stay evidence they bad 'bendy heard their Lordships saw any ransom to conclude that the conspiracy which had been so much spoken of had really existed—if it bad been hewn to their eaddselios that Zings was connected in any decree with that conspiracy, lie was ready to adotit that the qiiestioa might be put ; hut if, on the other hand, they frit that the conspiracy was lint established—if they had as yet no sans. (sorry proof of Zanga's participation - in it, he thought it impoosiole that this evidence could he goo, into, consistent iy omit the principles of jubilee, and the established rules of judicial proceedings. Wiltisms eJosimeored by elating his having been in. teens pied yesterday on a mouton( eption of the grounds on which lie was procceiliog, Mid that the Attorney General had entered into a reply to argiiments that had never been need°, tbouotst of by him, and haul sorceeded in preventing him from opening evidence, winch, if gone into, would have !tempo down that ergionetit, for it would have 'hewn that he was carrying the charge again.. Zings, nod nut agaiisst Wooed Brown, who haul never entered leis imagination. He was glad, however, that an opportunity had now heirs afforded him of stating what it was that lie really meant to prove, sod how lie proposed to arrive at the proof. lie came now to consider the objections of his Learned Friend the Aitorisey.General to the course he had intended to pursue. His Learned Friend had been pursuing as sisalige s course of argtinseut as he had ever heard proceed from a Lawyer.— Ile had been inilressing their Lordships on the • fleet of the evidence, which • fleet could only he determined by hearing the 'vide ace itself. Ilia Learned Friend had confused, he wash! excuse hies fur so saying. two thing., whirl), us a lawyer, he min‘t have known to be essentially different.— Ile had cow...ref tar setineusthifity of ',videoro with the effect of evidroce, ulna' he should have known that the admissibility if the esihence was the first thing F. be decided, ani that its effect was to be considered •itere it had beret sectored. The connexion of the conspi lacy with Col. Brown or with the :lids!' Commission was not the question th• y had now to grapple with. Whether that C mission was a party to it—whether it was even aware of its existence or not—he sail conterded that he had a right to prove that there was a conspiracy. Sup pose it bad only resieted from appetite for gaits excited is the Italians, by the idea of the lucrative nature of the speculation, that prisons, he they who they might, haul engaged themselves' in sultoruiog witnesses; sud that it was nut at all within the koowlege of the 31112110 M. MliS:lloCrl—it would still be a conspiracy --the guilt would • - ••• • a a I. •-• •••• 1820. I PI , 1-• • O , y I