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I AIRE RIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. FRIDAY, MAY 14. MISCELLANEOUS.. Their Lordships - met at the appointed hour; and heard Counsel respecting several Scots Ap peals ; the judgments upon which were post= pored., ,• . The Earls of -DARLINGTON CHARLEMONT, KINNOUL, 8.11(1 13 ALCARRAS; and Lords VERNON and MOl4TitortT, were sworn, and took their scats. ' Lord WALSINGgAII preSented a Petition from Richinond, in' Yurkshire, in favour of the Propa gation of Christian Knowledge in India. Lord StIFFIBLD preseuted a Petition from r!&- thin Merchants and Traders of the City and Port of London, against the 'importation of goods and merchaudize from the United States of Arne ti . Their Lordships then adjourned • for some time during pleaique. The Rouse resumed about five o'clock, when a number of private, and return 13il1s were received from the Commons, presented by Lords G.' L. (;oWEa and STANLEY, Mr. CAREW, arid,other former Members ;' the were respectively read a first time. A considerable number of Petitions in favour of the Propagation of Christian Knowledge in India, were presented from different parts of the country ; generally 'from Parishes or places of small note, by Earls Dile4BY', GIIOSVENOR,SPEN CER, FiTZWILLIAM, LIVERPOOL, 1115601111tS MEL- VILLE, BULKELEY, Lord GRANTLEY, the re!) bi- shop of YoRI, and the Dult6 of GRAFTON ; which being read short, were ordered 'to lie ou the table. - The Duke of Sussex presented.a Petition to the same effect from the }riends and Supporters of theaaptist Missionary Societies in the Metropo lis ; as did, • Lord. ChtENViLLE from Wesleyan Societies in the City and' Vicinity of Bristol. On the motion of Earl GROSVENOR, the Lords• were ordered to be summonea for Tuevlay, with referenee to:the second reading of the Sinecure Place Bill. ' ' . . . The LORD CHANCELLOR reminded their Lord ships that the consitleiation of the' case of the Borthwick Peerage, iniolVing points of infinite importance to the Honae, was already fixed for that day at five o'clock. I The Earl of LAUDERDALE shortly' adverted to the great inconvenience experienced by the Noble Lords with respect to entering proxies, in eonse quence of the House meeting three times a week At ten4l'clock, as the relevant standing order s pre scribed that proxies sho u ld be entered before prayers .each day. With. a view to obviate this, he moved, ' " That the Lords be summoned' for Monday, to, take the 85th stundiu order, for the purpose of introduci n g th e rein the words, " lietore three o'clock," instod of "Before prayers," as "it now prei,crihedi" , . • • Th e LnitT) CUM; CiLL,OR •thought there coithi be no objection to such an alteration, and the Lords were'orderett to be summoned. accordingly. FOREIGN RELATIONS. Earl GREY said, before their Lordships 'pro seeded ceeded td the Order of the Day, he would e4dea vOur to obtain some information from Ministers • • . • upon points respecting which it was nuportaut and necessary the House should sooner or later obtain information. He had purposely abstained from making any inquiries respecting the measures of Government, particularly With regard to their fOreign coimections, hecaute his anxious wish .was; that, under circumstances evidently so ad vantageous, either for a favourable negociation for peace, or for conducting the war with addi titionaf vigour and effect,'shonld the enemy refuse 14 fair proposal for pea c e ; with advantages so un eXpected autfso unhoped for, in consequence of th,l events of tlie last campaign, ,Ministers should ex perience no embarrassments, in lot lowing up that line of. conduct so obviinisly called for by circumstances ; that they should have an op- portunityof proceeding unfettered to negociation. 13 ut a periodwas now arrived at which he could no ,longtr refrain from adverting to rumours which be liad heard,a and which were urged ,with no in considerable degree of Confidence. He wished for . no discussion of the subject at,present ; but to suite that if one of these rumours with respect to inducements held out to:a power- whose aSsisf ance Wait sought for was in any degree founded, he mast say it was One of the most iniquitous as well as the most injurious propositions .lie ever heard Of, especially 'with' a view to the considera tion of future arrangements ; in which light he must regard it as one of the most injurioup pro- . positions to the best interests of this countr y. phat was not all ; he underStOod there appeared in a paper heforethe other House, an account Of the, distribution. of the last vote of credit advancenient of a consideiable sum on the part d tbis: countr,,to Sweilen. lie need not state to' their .4oraships that Parliament had a•rl i ibt know for what purpos e that money was so vanced. In former discussions On this stitijeet, it was held, tIISLt unless partieular: circumstancei.: could be pleaded, Ministers w'ere 'not justified m ilkin g such 'advances: Jt•was incontrovertibly true, at least, that Parliamentshould be int:6o4o of the purpose of such advances. These were poitits on Which he thought Ministers were called` : upon to afford information to :Parl . ittinent; and . that it behoved them to t ak e care ind to connect' the faith and honour of time . country with such p r 'dopos' ons, previously to Parliament being in formed upon the Stibject, respecting which it was also his wish to'know if Ministers shortly meant Japli c any fegular,cOnnnitnication., The it:,a ly rl of LiVEoolassnredthe Noble Earl the llouse, that nothing Could give his Ma je.ty's Ministe - rs greatei• 'satisfaction than to be able, consitnntly with their decided sense of pub..' lit: may, to atiorl the (liiirect explanation, or to state to Parliament the prineiplep ; up on whi c h their advice to his Royal lliglinefis th e 1-1,60 ee R e ur e p t w is founded, in consequence of the events' of last . c;-tnipaigty. said the 4ntijeet ,could not be athninkitely entered on, Without .4 full disclosure of ‘, all its bearings and connections,, whi c h imis ' t dentiy tend to etnharps4 and deteriorate the tele. vant tneainres to be adopted. In that view of the question., he should feel that be was -not acting consistently with his public duty, if be made'any answer to the particular questions di , the Noble Earl at preient,, or entered into any further ek planationa.' Rut he hoped the' 'flay was. not far distant, when be may havean opportunity•of ing what the general state of the 'relations' of the cc uuthr were with Foreign powerS, and the nature oftheengagemetitt subsisting with there Powe.is. The Noble .Earl knew there Wis a particJilar pe riod of the Session when such ,topics regularly came tinder consideration,. and he should hope, that until the arrival of that period, no explana tion of the kind would be required. On that oe 7 crelon ,they .would he afforded ; or if that should not he,the case, suaicient grounds should.he stated for the farther withholding them. coNuma OF THE WAR. The Order-of the day upon which their Lord ships were summoned being read,' The Earl of : DONLEY observedi . that their LOrdShip : could scarcely suppose it possible, that, in the interval between his- first notice for hring ing fOrward this iMportant subject, and the Mo m:tit of. its discussion, events should have occur red that Still further evinced the necessity of the House adopting some steps with respect to it. In this he alluded principally to the losS .of sonic of his Majesty's ships of war. Their Lordships would recollect the events that took place not long before', as Well as since, the loss of the Java. With respect to the cOnduct of hostiliti6s against America, he contended, the papers laid by Mini sters theniselirns upon the - table would stew that they must be long aware.of the hostile spirit of that country, and that from their conduct, war was unavoidable. To the documents alluded to by his Lordship,•he copiously referred, and read a variety of extracts, especially from the letters of, and communications with Mr. Monroe; with a slew of establishing the above position. The pro minent feature -in the conduct of Ministers,- as in.'. 'ducing'the rupture, .he characterised the Orders in Council. • He then proceeded to censure the conduct of the war with, respect to America, NV Hal either,ift the military or the Unita' line, he insist ed was not adequate to its object, though he gave . the illustrious' person at the head of the army am-: pie credit for his'exertiMis in induCing its present state of discipline and. perfection. With respect to the naval operations, , however, he contended, that neither in point of number, distribution, br the 'quality M the vessels employed, were they such as, the nature and exigence of the ease re quired. 'So early as July -,1811 were Ministers formed by those who were adequate judges of the subject-,--that an American war was inevitable and it' was urged to theth, that if an adequate na val force was timely dispatched to the coast of America, no ship . within could then have' left their ports, or any without 'could have escaped capture. Respecting the force and strengthof the. mt,tch talked of American shipOf war the Constitution, it was for a long period cruising in. the Channel, and he believed at time even in the Downs. — Ministers must have known her size andstrength;, nay; the Lord 'Warden of the Cinque Ports might have - counted her guns from the battlements of Waliner Castle was in -proof, from the state-. ments of official documents, there was no deficien cy 'of zeal, 'cOurage, or energy, in the Navy: no deterioration in those respects ; the re- Verses- were attributable to the mismanagement' of these Who had the direction of the national force. The-Java, at the time that she was taken, had on board 98 ahle seamen ; and so Much was Captain Lambert convinced of the inefficacy of crew, that lie entertained no very great hopes of 'success in the action. • It -had appeared to him to be a. singular fact, that in all the actions that had taken place between our ships and..:the Americans, our frigates had been dismasted in a very short time ; the only reason:which be could assign for this, Was, that the masts of the British ships were not very thick, and the shot of the enemy being very large, it was more apt to take effect-, on act:Mint of the -size of the mast. The next point to Which , be alluded was the depredation which had been committed on our trade by the American pri‘'a Leers.. If an • inadequate forec.had been provided for the purpose of preventing the American pri vateers from ptitting'to sea, the list of the cap tures made by the Americans would not have been swelled to the enormous such of of 306,001. as, he had reason to believe from the Most authen tic information 'wh ich he could prOcure on the sub ject, was the amount of the' captures made- by time Americans. He then - alluded to the impOrta-: tion of American cotton; Which be characterized as a most impolitic measure ; and , he expreised his surprise that Ministers should :ever have al lowed it, though he was happy to hear that it had by theni been stopped. Another extensive and im portant branch of the subject into which he could' not at that time enter. so - largely as lie wished, was -the state of the Dock-yards in the kingdom. • Alluding to the Navy Board, 'he complained that it was composed of a set of men who were'soex tremely obstinate, that nothing could indtice them to adopt any improvement suggested to them; so great and so inveterate was their adherence to old: priiiciples.' Ile did not mean -that they should listem to every .projector who approached theta . with ticheuxes ,and., plans, for that could not con duce to the puhlia'advautage ; but When any thing was suggested to a public board, which was ma,- sonable in itself, certainly it was proper to give it a fair trial. .He believed that he had shewn that his Majesty's Ministers, with the .prospect of a War, bud not taken proper means for carrying it on ; -and when it was , begun, bad conducted it tardily anct!neffeetually, and bad never provided an adequate force. Unless his Majesty's' Ati. nisters could . prove that the co,ivepie of hi s p ro _ positiou was the case, and that they bad taken proper and effectual means , for the protection of the trade, surely merchants' had a right to- expect that the matter .was worthy the interference of p ar liament. H e had brought forward 'the clues-. tion with reluctance, and only becauseno other. Noble Lord had taken upon himself- that ;task. If the Noble Lords oppoSite could prove that the converse of his proposition ,was the case, even then he should think that it was his datrto have . agitated the question, and that ,he was rightist having brtnight it forward, although he knew that Ninisters haul sonic advantage from the geberat poranotou which always exiits,• that the peroohs In power are always f4:inse who are most fit for the execution of the duties of office ; 'yet Parliament Was',not to sit still, while all those.faets which he ;had stated were staring them in the' face. He `MoVed therefore--:-- ".That a COmmittee he appointed toinquireinto the mode in which the war with the United States lilts been conducted; andindre particularlyinto the management and dialiosal , - the naval forces of the kingdiim !during the last year." Lord MELvittx, trtiateic that notwithstanding the.ebafidence - with 'which the Noble Lord had urged the different positions which.he bad stated, it would be in his power to spew, that the Noble Lord was not warranted in the 'expect a ti on w hi c h 'he had entertained, that the' Muse would *secede tp. his moti o n, th e Noble Lord had ; begon bystat iug something,with respect to .the s rehitiVe situa tions of this country and America,,previons . to the declaration of War : would . not say nmomy On that subject than that this country .had been forced into the war. Ail th4t was connected With the state of affairs previous to that, hating been on a foYmer occasion the subject of diseussion before their Lordships it was needles.; for hint to repeat. lie should therefore• confine' himself, to the consi s der ! tion of the way in which the Ivor had beep conducted. Befome entering upon that, however, he would say a:few words as, to the expectations which had been entertained as',to the - probability of a declaration of war, He was prepared to tot !mit, th a t some time befbre the war broke out, and before he filled that 'office Which ist` that time he' had the honour of holding, there undoubtedly was very great reason to appreheod that a war would take place. .But he wished their Lordships to re . collect what orris the universal language which had been held after Me Orders in council were repeal ed, When he said this, he did not intend it as then only answer which he would give to the Noble Lord on that subject. Ile_ merely wished their Lordships t o b ea r i n m i n d , t h at at the time of the repeal of the Orders H in Council, there. was a ge neral expectation that the war would be prevented. 'About the particular cause of the war, and wbe.. 'timer it was-the Orders is Council s be should only say, that if . th e y h a d b een the,camme, the war ought long-ago to have ceased. The truth - being that the war Was one for our maritiMe existence, and of 'course. for our national modependence.-s--Arpro tested against the 'doctrine of the Noble Lord, that' •it was ,the. duty ,of .; Govenunent have been ready with a sufficient 7 force on the Coast of America, to hlOckade the whole .of the ports of the United, States and, :in fact,. to have done that .before tbeCommeheeirmentof the, war, which could only be ejcpeeted 'when the tear had been •foe some time continued. The duty of .Government Was, to have always a forgo prepared, which silo* be Snfficient to check the ,American navy, ,aud, torprcifect the- British trade. The ianestioo.then cline to be, whether this had been done ? And., herd it was necessary tci say, that . in carrying, on the War, it : had been the duty' of Ministers, at every possible risk, to curtail the extent . of i naval preparations ; atacl this, .for % the_ purpose of giving.full scone and ; hill latitude for . exertions where aorts were more necessary, :and could be more effectual, It was, therefore, the '.duty of Government to keep ,the naval forge of, the country within the least poSsible bounds.• The. Niiple Lord had, h o w ever sa id; t h at -ships might. hair been :taken away from the blockading sclua drons for the purpose of being more effectually, and beneficially employed upon: the coast .of A merica. ThiS.was, in the first place, styposing that the forces. on these stations were more than was. absolutely, necessary. The fact,' hOwever, was, that ever since the commeneeemenrof the Aifierican war, instead of subtracting ,Irom the ; force of our blockading sqandrons, it had been found 'necessary to' have them conaiderahly aug mented, end this .becauie the enemy''s force in the: ditlereut . ports bad, been very much increased. ,Within the . period to which .he had Minded, namely, the duration of the American war, -the naval ,foree of..the enemy had been increased : by more than 20 ships.; and in almostevery case time number of ships in the port of the enemy:was au poior to the blockading. fleet. Was,thiS then the time at whiCh to diminish any blockading fleets, l Their Lordships ,most allow tltat it'would Mitre, been unjustifiable to.htive takenfrom any of these squadrons, even one single ship. He would next adVert to the season at. which the Athericans - had made their declaration .0: war. War was of course proclaimed by the Americans at the season when they found it most tit so to do ; and if was done at that time when all the British ships were dispatched .to their differeat stations.--'The force 'I which • had been allotted for the American sta tion had been detached, and it was impossible im mediately to increase it, on account of the at-, rangement .which had been made' of all tbedis pbsable force. The questhio, under-. .stood, to. be, this—whether the capture . Ofithree of his Majesty's 'ships, could nave beiri:prevented, and whether their capture afforded cOustitullooal ground .for inquiry ? Were the two points on which be would most particularly insist, • The Noble Lord :had said,: that. the force :upon the American station, befOre the ot, war, was not adequate--=but; how ,did ,the AmeriCanS act,/ They escaped . from their - barbonts bebtiri they. declared 'War. Would the: N6l.kle s Lord then , pretend to_say,. : thi t t if there had.lieen'()Litionger naval force upon the ctuistof.Ainericea,the navy : of the United .States could have'lrele.prevented• from putting to sea,? The object of 'thcAmeri cans.was to go after our convoys, and, to make depredations on our trade. They They wetit after the. Jamaica fleet, feirin, with one naval force, and by them they - were chased, though they made their escape.. 'lf.the British force upon. the American strition , had bein inad.tquate, the' American navy, instead of flYing before. it, Would have : sought for it ;' and for the interest, and glory of their country it would have been their duty.th have fought. it,: instead. of being chased, The LOrd asked how_ came:the Guerriere to be taken ,? That ship was: cruising in comPany. with a line of 'battleship, from, which the was sepa rated in a gale of wind, immediately after Which she fell in with .the enemy, by Whom she was taken, after a most gallant resistance. When a . ship was. thus, by a. gale of wind, separated front. her consort, and then fell, in with an Cleiny of su perior ,force, to, tvlioni she 'Was obliged to yield 'after a bloody though unSuccessfulemitest,because dais v as rif I,7c.i m t i:lasainrattel ooflamentation, was it •to be u the measures Of, Crovern..; IL ment were tardy and ineffectual'? 'Oh i but, said` the Noble Lord, you might have blockaded !be ports of the United States. The Nobly bard had said more than any Naval Officer woull ha' : bike to do ; fora ivas impossible to blockadthe , American harbours at all seasons, and 11139 Y h ° ' them 'could - not be blockaded a t all. Er" t m c ports of France i which front their nature are more capable .of being blockaded , a nd where 01 . blockading squadrons W e re stationed, could - lie so effectually secured as to completely prere'.l the escape Of privateers, who fake oar nirrcloil ,- vesseli close to the British But itioretlo!. 'all this, the Noble Lord had gone so far, ai O: ! tbal such and such a number of ships and fido',' would have been perfectlysufticient fo blockas titiilltlteicilittilmitaerigieerailiviiiiasrib.ebquuriss.:l;enn i l e ie piv b at: s aid this lie said that Which no officer could admit, for : Observations of the Noble Lord, be tvotii 6 k ,,ri iii check, done? the Citeiny had bee'', T e , ryi .arid this from what lie had' said 14 ` 1 ' Itt .riod of the War, was perfectly suiliclotle and wll Ihat.'eould- he espected. I he N r ,::. 3 , Lord had adverted ,to the 'ol'i) other captures, Which -h.td- been Made - by the Awerieic,i, 3 1. ' 0,i , II 'tartystate.d that.the eir driatiolicet with t ‘ of they . were,attelidtti,:hiia reflected no le" °l m il u l ) "", the offi 'Cers *Ad crors'of these. shirctl ° t , tautened .to the 6tirrierc. 'Bat 11 ' rd '' r e a ,iat t i tle blockade. - Perhaps the Noble I , '" 1 :::, „p . t i lat the „American ships shoitlil hare b ee 1 1 ) i; Oa , in their portS, or, as lie lOW eqres''' ,j j 'ho'e the harl,niurs . 01 the United States hio i t be rz . been het ibetieally Sealed ; 'aga;tr'ana 4 'T Ittl hi Pentetli'k was impossible. The Nohl : '' i r ti to p:.e .power - of tsh. ration.toaai i eli: t ll 1 ,:%‘ nn. . - or. 1:,1:. 1' 00)i i tt a ti.., :e t . a.ie i : i i t ,cf: - oavaort thest saila. t Aits l i,sf i ais e :rAati l ' et i ci l iii i iili i xece t iyr:it4nteo,t;alitdl:ll,l:ll;l;.))ti,cii,se:%l.:, o r ; sli i r ise, ee l ,i i i i i iit i i : li c „iitit i : ! ll,..ll.ll,e,((:ll,,,..er.., iieri,trsitia,,,),strltilitciti i o.,! , the of War, a.force sutiieient to I) 3 : f e 0 , 1 14 Ig : • G i g .2.s l o: ( x t • l e b :t r i a li t ls i : l e ti t Q l: p tlit s ' i l t:h a i t s 's c v o ti t t l a n d t country b t e a cki.le:4.B'° : s .(l' f c i t 'r e ' r; bl i v n ti tin:o :l b v a e h re le. It would have been -ilecc - s 'ioe' l l aVe sent out :the Admiral with the (li'', le ',liiiig commencing the war. At the ' cc ' • f ► • a "'..,' when ever y *effort ' was snaking to : v v: l. - 0, c.:: :... 0: ialol'otiricee:'sbffitheiee.Ylitcatilde(lb'llTCknadte ll° ?.--I.'''': ''i'd"' i Arneilea" Ports i and this too at the Yee)",:i,hef : when ,they were' striving to she'V the tl e,r,,, his the nation was to avoid a war, anti that . `,. 1 0 - 3 . 4 0 1,, positions 'of the nation were anticaile, it_i'if Dui ..The next point : was,: o v i i i i i e ti tb i c :se ,i ot ,. ( :; tPltl'eweCarpfetluirbekiktabdeinfirsitgitSilaidsTinpsha4 11°11.'1" bees .prevented ? • Was it to- be . sapposeda t j °' lio' l blockading; s iladron, however l'Cn' erf A ti ' cohl 4, ever SuiNcient li for the purposes of bi°ClCtillea'st vita prevent:a frigate, on her voyage to tile fr i lies, 'froth falling is %vitt! an. Ameei';', r}:00 °,' : superior -force, which , wits at ee l e a Hiii(le 'Ham 'Statement which the' N P oblc )r " ,pd th' t on.the ih; the s h ip subject of the crew of the P': , o p ciyr .%_"C .tVaS unfit for action, he wool" ),;(11'6,)!,i., : 'and the Java ,was in most exceleP ~c`:.o" li e ,11:- , ' Lind i f another ship was at that ivoiPl,,,dig,t,tl4 ' ,patched to the East inches, he if or til ' ec ;cio4 \ E ! !.t . ,,Y.s'atne measures for the seleeth;,: °Java. til • : uilding ships* o f illtiiiti.:tploisei:::,',:::::::,;,:rie,etttlitith,.,,i,ii.,:"o:::: :1,„ can frigates, all naval nien " ere T' . • f oc res 4 kA . nunioer• of cl as s es , S i ii a.ippos.9 1„ . 1 (l be e % -' 0 cneven : b ‘ieri e j, c e istia n earizgls ilo eid n oc e )f , ff ait.vrhliiiicla;t:ttal:::::iicei:. jEtelb,.,l,le,:iirtc the i ciole:::, t tp r ,t o i: 4 4: : ,eci i ii E . ' e: 1 otoivin;.bv'tll;:odoei: thingt, it l i l h i tl‘i . ii. li :si b ii l h " : 9 of s fi t :1 11 1 °1 1: "1 4 :e of t he same class‘v ill' ' ld the ill'''' tainly they could not have prevefu e " Noble ''') ~ l : I'l' l ‘ c h a c 'e th( sa i d s.r t o nia i i . --- Brit undelst-tha of sh ips wl 4 ii l c 'e li P m r - e er v e et fi lt t e t t e l fi tt e d i r ' i e tit i , ° w sg e r4)ef ilt;l:te , 1 1 ;I: e c il :1').1'ecrdit;:c1:.! them t ) scribed by the Noble Lord Whenhe h ( .0t s bios 2 1 ! than ffigates, ttiey. :Were univerlallYtot 01,0 0 1: :. b . e '4911i generally, serviceable and ii 41001,1 4.'1, other description of ships. ' Al lie sk o f lial i V. t , s h h c ii,i of that c; ll .l e as N s' v b b u t i e lt 1 . ' s ° v l : l : 9 tPijis ' !'4l: soc ! ;: lie ` :" l;! .f3ilismAlviat'inut'aileit reirl7:loU:i:iit:ifts;ra ',: ' "itmlknetion into - our navY ()I 3nY 'vivai • WI- . her of ships of that deScription as ,lo . at v-3 1 0. ':, , . is a b t 9 ic r ac i i.(e c: Ln e es e ,a :::: , :i s i ttg t e 4 l it f i iii u tiyi pl i : t r it u nt w .i d e : t e ei tntrel,:c.oarel.ft:l%l.:aa. ta.is!ividleaT3b:pluyleocie.)ll:iNiclioya:pti}:::a,:evicii,;litili:c,n)o.::crl.,;(;jici:o:bll'ie,,6ii,l,,lo,,t;'s'il:llle:., ships, that is,, of gimp ' s 'of war, tke., it .% ) A t 0 11I te service at' that time: This was said t ° 4 foal . 4 1 ) t l l i t q p le r n ea l ti le t i o c n o s in o p f liti .A ne tu tl e t i b ic a a t o t . r i a ; i es t u e ff e e r r :) , . cr o c j i t e li c i,' ships - of that descriikiou Were the -01° 4 ,,,,„t the 'ji ' ; for the protection of iradittg. vtlsels I . . s ';`" 0 , 11 1 , ut)yanee-of -' FriVitteer . s, and, Of e"" 1 , ' t of he ~-• Cour . 1 ti . would - be . mbst uniustifiable'in atiY 1 4 0 0 ~, i tle miralty to - cause the smallest dituin,ullie•->l3oc, Naval Force Of thiit -descriPtitib* . 1 , tlid,, , i l Lord had said, that- the sinew's bY ricans wereenabled to support the wi ry 00 t'' ricans : strengthetied. All that lie - Stlotilii.slilio "ticlli subject - wasl,That they w ere, in passe 0. .0. iba . ' counts which stated, that the, case 1 ";: s ol t.t , o‘ '. the reverse. As 'to the balance of c y„,,, voe , ' Noble-Lortl was very far mlitu ke° *- „ ' t: the • oid .. ' aid, that the balance was iii favour of "'w- 4 ricans.--[Loril Dafnley, ac:ross 'the 0 1 c,,iile that , be had -said st).3-7-The balance too , „0, was much in faVour of Great 13ritain• :, 10 (i'', , ' en 11 ' ibe i ' Lord. wa§ pm-reedy mistaken wli o f l e hn [S 0 11 I that the complaints of the I%teec"--° w ere b iec sugiciency of protection :to 'the tra de, that o vri f roes and loud. ' The' best pro", 1, 1 1, NulliCfrod was the rate of insurance'; and " t II hav e ,00 e ou ( oo ly g had made inquiries at 4loyd's II '' ii es wio - 4 04? the rate of'insurance to tho y es t Jut coolie o‘ rti b l e , per cent. higher than -befot-e ti.lie..,6oatruve, e 0 1 ' of the War. This :Was it progt If' -f l eo ' 'l. l° litimencseuitlittnehiel;lolef Noble that iv ~, tr Lord)! , lnd'. col was duty . estimatid s , h t i l P ) appear comparatively s mall. . ,I , , , "'n leviarat.oe lutioliec had stated that the Ante.ri --- ,.; ( t l e tter' ' t o% big es i numbtbc e r ‘ rs,,..n 't fi e ) ~ees ois l b e i 5e2i,,,,,, , rlk , arrived so early as July, 570 t.L . ,; 1 , - ,, a Oc t° , t o il r n i were not issued before the mulT e Lor d t10 1 , 4 0. 1 '!" , was his duty to remind tiie Nob' *he d,oto 30th July orders were issued- "" . Ai "rice °(1 Hr Is Hl !tot tordi I%eric a , I`ter Le nom 41 v A 4tti 4 )t, 5 , a il , ' eve, i t cl (iii ‘ i .she; ed th a ' L%iiler„ wa Yq 111 rc ry 4 IHAre - I ttti ht, I 41.„,