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gRN - p; 1g serstip_tvl44, 0 4A' . 4A -16 bed Owes swMs. net Imi AN* mpen;llt MOW " 4 111111•114 Ant • '1101,1461 bilshis is polesissis- Sued is the geel of LandllONApliobeell. s l id. • Ibbieunin! hod daysamillmh ar , Medryiniti his Illeisides whistle with •bie mustimeste spas few lismentary Reform. Letters from that isdivi. AMA to his. bed also helm apetteds old is me naming ships had bee* ditsissil sharther,shi ; it are/ te bias. He 'height it ma On be deptived Sr s comilenimiling; .idsb abillb Irked, wilhotalmay teethe, migrevalkill.i %hops be sight lot Isla lit **shill* Mole.. tibiae sere the peones toop* le is sum any gem.. eveitess eempleinsils& Ilst &wean that hi the cue el Nehuster-,ged,Mbeee the issetsot ODINIIIi • • ties bed bees asemaiened, het Quills.' had Mood up in that Hosea, sad set only debandsd bet eulo gised the characters of the persons I vited with, its ameagement. Frew all tits haellostifill Is ill+ able to receive. he leaned that this iegoisitesiak power of efesing lette‘was practised by therein: gestures et Larteaste, for the pawnor of piles into the aeotets of passes 0 that deocriptieu ; inn/ that with this view they had given power to the gaoler to open all the letters they received. They entertained. however, sane doubts epee the subject, end took the (minims of • lawyer upon the legality of the act. The opinion was that the act was law ful ; but they were cot Istislied with that but pro-. eroded to freeze some regulations for th e DlROsie. meat of the geol. Now, 4 according to the lith Ahoy. no person we, •11101 , 1 SO open a letter alter it wes delivered in the pesuellice withuet the es prits warted of the Secretary of State, er pestle. lion of the perste to whom it was directed ; and in :elle Mfg Rights it was laid down that the laws of the land could not be suspended nr digested with except by authority of Perham:at: It seemed that the lid Oro. 11. was the Act which they esaaideed , mossioned the proceirdiog.—. That Act was WSW for the protection, not the oppressissa of peinehere, and whether it contained such permademaiamt. ne ma could deny that its spirit was sod hoped to alleviate, set, increase dm , that thio: *or ether acrd. Bute is. where liege weacersined bra Sit A fammellited :stated wee tem little , tteesem,eimielaistmgh Me. Bent was : tits ielosstly-yet this peastice was set . . • ereheiteinsiml he had heard of late, he 1 he sepsis 4 it he heard the Noble Marquis ee . . of ibihlAilende get up end say, that this - -Amlabilia.tontiesed for the protection of the f ' sad ies of his Mhijesty's sebreta : Bat hi ' 6. Srhether magistrates had soy right to has .•41iplese regulations tato a gaol ; and upen thee .implarset be hod the opinion of a most able politician m es sett. as a mead Jawyee, a mon whim asthma ',laid be respected upon both salsas( the „it moot the late Sir Samuel Romany. In 0 slmentiog • petitioo is 11112, he mid he was at • loss • - a trt brow upon what principle of law it was that coat. ie Iliatralus took epee themselves to interfere with ills . ( geismers Sr a meaty gaol. This, then, wee the lap. tad if. the .orastice complained of were .tolet sited in the Sid Geo. 11. the sooner it was repealed,' , L , I , s l e . ;te ha r. ve .044 % bi h hi „. ONie tisf ir ov irre ion i b l y oot an eDece action need at ia lie . *7 - as :WOO as he bad heard that it was a breach ef t t fs.. , Op vivant.' of that amen, he had determined tic gto 6 that motion. for he thought that iu vindises l tug the privileges of that House he did more IWO in vindicating the privileges of the ~ l He should therefore move— ' 3..:1 " That it is the aphasia or this Hesse epeuioe, suppressiat, or Mafioso amp letter istrinher of IParilesseat, was guilty of a di lii lassoteps if that Renee" , Mr. Peat. then rear, bat gave way to " ' Lord Sr* N Lay. He said he felt great reluctance 'in rising to address the House, and the rase par ticularly as he saw it was the u it:dentist i t:ft I H. Gentleman (Mr. Peel) to address t ~ Opinions must at all times love so meek' i weight than his. He could not, however, avoid,l expressing his surprise that the present question could be considered a breadth of privilege. It was flaker an nasty/Aiwa, dedemetance, if that were the cue, that last June, when a Petities was preeemed to the Hour, complaining of press caitiff the same thin. the Petition was order ed to be referred to a• Committee os Prisoos ; rind no one Member of that Committee hod cep. eidered it • Weather, the privileges of that House. That rho order, msdoeseeme eirceinetsaasepasight produce a breach of privilege, he would not deny. The order went further than that—it might go to • breech of trust between man and man. Bat the Magistrates bad sot acted on their opinion alone—it had been strengthened by the sanction of the Judges of the laud. He did not in that cue see how it could amount to • breach of privilege. It was perfectly true the regulations of Lancaster J•Lgul contained roe role laid down for the gaoler ' that required him sot to deliver the letters until be ,•'.W opened than cad reed their contents, upon h'in which he was to give them to the parties if nothing esceptionable were unstained, if otherwise, thee • z oOread the unexceptiouble parts to the ;omits and metre the letters for the visiting magistrates ; and a • role of a sionler =tare wee to be observed in regard to Irtlers sent from the gaol. All letters of contuse. ',instant between the prisoners and their law ad visers, were else to be immediately delivered. Such were the rules prescribed for Lancaster gaol, and lie believed on the hood-writing of Jestice Bayley, oho epode some alleviations iu them. They had, however. bees subsequently approved and sone tumid by the Judges going circuit, Bailey sod Park, and this after coariderable deliberation on the part both of the Magistrates who drew them up, odd the Jordires wee oinked them. As to the tight generally of gaoler. us tameness the letters of pri. sutlers, lie was of opinion that they would unt fulfil iheii duty if they did not do so. How the tole sideht to apply to 14'11(1104os, sad to Members, he lets it to more competeut Members to say. lc *as ~! Which __ tell letters freaked by Members, or directed to naafi/may to law ; secondly, that it was • llsossiebektpailege. He bed listened feriftely with Meat verities to the doctrine held fifth by- the fbr Winchelsea in upholdiila'fte pro- As far ft this applied to permit', In efti = it certainly meld not be eariateined.— Tbeftssiets ft the Cream side of a poi were ei olfilly dsed.—they hod an privileges, by ! t kaleml: =mot /Mt Ne one wool& dety cee : e b s e po t t i k at Crown of interrupting th e meet' lift. parties se circumstanced. Thep he • f the Honse visa doubtless of a no. tore. The Hefterable 13entkassa reamed' to the Art of Parliament for the regulstiou of pelt. The Noble Lord proved that the replatioft of Lonesome pot were drawn up by the Masistrotet, and sanctioned by the Judges text en Circuit; and when he mentioned that the enbsctibits Judges were . Bayley and Park, he thought the qnrsrion at an end. The Act of George 11. had beeniefeered te, by which IdeSissitto wire direct. :fa re drat' '4U rdssilations tar gaols. He would 'refer the If '',i ii a mere recent Act, one of 'George 111. t ' preamble fur ohich described it Ir ish' on Act for the better regulation of poll and `dies of confinement, &c. the Act directing that tie rules and regulations should be drawn up by k . I e Magistrates at Quarter Sections, to be by then ' banned to the sett Judges of Assiie going dr. "coif through the country. After tins, and the ' proof they had of the repletion. being drawl up 'according to law, and considering the names of the sub .c ribing Jedges, he considered it a waste el time to dwell looser on the first proposition of legality or illegality in the conduct of the 4 tiates and gaoler. It would be a wanton the indulgence of the House, if he attempted Is t daell longer' on the legality of the proceeding: 'Supposing, therefoer, the conduct of the Magi.. Bites to be legal. or at any rate, assuming it to be so for the salted' argunieut. he came to the letter peptitioo ea to the biasehof privilege. He wool *appose the regulatito to be legal, and that it Net Alb all the sanctities and authorities required law. If this were gritted Min, there would be Attach of privilege—which retarded in the case letters , only to the freak poseest of them. They would scarcely ciiiins any abet exemption as la 'their letters, then than deseribed by the law. U. ' der what authority would they rest their cleft 4, exemption from the general mewing of an Ate d, ' Parliament cootaihiegne reservation is their favour t ' 'Could it be staistested, that after the House had • knaverwered the alsgiattates to draw up rep ' ; Attie better aftwaOutent of gaols. sod the 1 trues bad in the instance immediately in q omitted to make any reservation in favour of dew r muoication friinft to Members of Perlis/seat, limit. exemption mild be claimed under the privileges of the House! Ho assemed that there was ft roue vation in the order, and therefore Mothers of Par. Lament could not elaim to be "tempted from the execution of it. Reference had been made to Lord Sidusooth's letter to the gaoler at Gloucester. It had been mistakenly called s Circular. The appli cation to which it gay* rise caste from let O usters, one a debtor, the other is fur a tirideaseon mt. The complaint was referred lo the Secretary of State from the House of Lords. The opinion of the Law Officers of the Crown was taken . Aspen, it. The letter to Lord Sidiftuth was Ahaf emeoequeem, directing that the . regulation should in future be applied only to Mona. It woo eallothe first time the attention of the House had -keen called to the *abject. la 1735 there was a emplane made that letters bed been opened, and thil basafsem and to Members of Parliament had boss shelled; a resolution of the House declared itt-terhe Wept and a breach of privilege, sad no deakitins ea. But thee those measures ooly re. Am* se Iseeemeia tha post, or delivered to the post.. alike saushliameets. If the right existed at all lu -Orden @Wineglasses, to prevent or intercept -I correspasdasie of posses is custody under k Member& el Neliament could claim no ese mess opeskilt seemed for them. Lay thing : it kiwi dun rander the sanction of the legal asiberids c omi.. list forbidden by law, could • ha .ae. beads, 'et privilege. The resolution of 11111. *at asibuit, declaring such conduct in • amistamarbal ether inferior agent of Govern esses es none: m qualieas to be a rug breech .1141.1111 Vera 4. she House, except done Iftilla , • nemikst, 0 a Secretary of State. .11 giosisimiof sass time from the application of talgesseal oak is IMemph.ers were allowable, they ale it be very unwilling to assert it iu ammo it alight lead to an interference with the ad• . ration of criminal justice. The Right Has. here read the opintou of Doctor Black stases the subject. and was proceeding to moot on she inconvenience likely to arise from the ea. emiptift claimed.—[We were, however, unable foe souse 'sienna to pay attention to him, a messenger of the Hoeft persisting in driving two person* for. ward in the direction of the back seat, one of theft being intoxicated. There was uo room for this, and the additional noise of them kept up the eau fasiou which prevailed around theta} --Whey order was restored, the Right Has. Gentleme' was inanities upon his argument generally. that Members had no right to claim exemption as to the . opening of letters to persons in confinement. Hs concluded by moving the previous question. Mr. H. G. Bauxarr could not help thinking that the principle was stated toe broadly. If he had understood the Right Hon. Gentleman tightly, he had asserted the power of the Magistrates. with tliesimcti•s of the Judges, ioetend of seeming the old law of the land. erupt legislate—not to apply laws reedy made. but to make new ones—to aggro• vats peoishments. instead of enforcing them merely —and lecher's,. if they pleased, a dealt of simple imprisonment Into one of solitary aftreancut. It we a hold nag to chelleurt the Iftrilloarusng e( the Right Han. Gentleman. with all apnoea w & i. shoos hit. but he, would venture to MOO, trate, had to each power. All they 11111 ,, to regulate the applicatiou of the law—the hears of gel"- iris notwith. @Mediae the Blackmon, mid 11.104 rd Penitentiary Aht quoted by the Right Ma. •liesitleismi a that 1110hgtetrates had no pewee to legielets on prison discipline ; if they had, all the la seurs of Prison =aims§ above. stairs were thrown away. to . • plated- to, of letters opeoed coming from 1 zigi;i. gto • gao l, the adopted, on advice the law officers of the Crown was, the con of the• gaoler was illegal, the complaioseat only • debtor, and sot a felon or a fine. As breech of privilege, the Right Hon. Gentle. is citing the case of 1755 overlooked the pre. 'vises preetedings on the One subject. The Act er Charles If. which west to the establishment and regulation of the Post-office, contained a clause for - piing Members from the chow of postage; dm edema did rest comprise the other Hesse, who dehmopan match it mit; they had no poorer to =he because it was a Money Bill. The of Commons resolved, oetwithetanding v drat it was pert of their privileges to pay no postage. This was net done to save the , putty tirdpened dr seven.pence. ew one shillinge • but to secure the privileges of Parliament pad i the liberties of the people of England, by pre.l semies the means et free comesomestion of cent. pleats to Menthols, said by them to Parliament. Theo tamer the resolution of Sir Robert Walpole 1735, that it was a.high infringement of the pri eges of Parliament to break epee or look into a Wier franked by, or addressed to a Member, 'swept the warmest of • Secretary of Se stet It alltmeset a gamest warrant left to be applied at 41seretion by. an inferior ageot, as he hod known • cis orders to he left on one occasion. The reeelstien required a separate and direct war. thi•every such retaining order with regard Wks withholding and breaking open lettere. It 4 perfectly demon*, the Right Hon. Gentle. Men said, that the resolution only referred to the ,Posbolfice. Bet the principle wawa clear as to the latices of Members under any circumstances, the privilege being retained far the wisest and most Vidal purpose, that of securing a proper statement of the grievances of the people in Parliament. Now, what greater source of grievance could there be than the general treatment of prisoner's ? Could any men doubt, after all the 'sheerest the House, end the enactments boned necessary in the lest twelve yesre.that much injustice bad been suffered, and that the conduct of look's most have fur nished meek well-grounded cause of complaiat ? Then, if the prisoners bad any such cowponies. lion to make, who were the parties to whom the inspection of their letters was to be intrusted ? Why those very persons against whom they might have Midi good reason to complain. He knew that then were only five gaols is which this power was riser. eiaed. He knew that there might be an improperf use spade of the sanction combined in the franking or i ' fliteepbes to convey improper 'natter ; but Ithellidlei.oech case could really arise, tweedy assedd bh noddy supposed. At soy rate the pee. sent ewe *A opt of that 'shod. The Hower able aloe* Iplil. declared that the letter broken upea bad wig" front hint. He would 'put it ee any ass to say if ibis were not a breach a. privilege. No desist the Minister would do he pleaseds" He *meld have it voted a breech of privilege or not, or perhaps that they had no privileges. at all. He was therefore ischned to thank the - Right Hasotwable Gentleman for his for bemuses in moving the previous question. The motion otherwise might lead to great abuse from the establishment of a new-tangled doctrine of pri vileges. The Right Noseumble Cattlemen bid by his motion implied that be did net wish to urg the decision of the Hesse oo their privileges too far, and so, 'seemingly to lave cosiverestion on a dlr.:, agreeable question, had moved an saniodmesit. The A trout er-GINIIIAL upheld the legal right .ei tie Magistrates to regulate the iuternel police of The gaolers were bound to obey their or- ohm sanctioned by the authority of the Judges &cult. The Magistrates at llchester had, copied the letter to Gloucester gaol, and transcribed it into their orders and regulation., wheu Mr. Hunt saw it in the hook, and naturally mistook it fir ie-i circular. As to the question of privilege, he woad resolve it into this:—Were Members of Parliselsekt privileged to enter in person any gaol in the coon. try, to bold coenntuoication with the prisoners, with. out the miscue° of the Magistrates ? He appro. bended they were net ; and. if not. then neither could they insist upon the unqualified right of com• municating with the prisoners by letter. Mr. Seurat argued against the infringement es,the peivilogee of. Members, iis men' to the Me Sureties of their letters. The argument ef the Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman, as to comma- Mations with prisoners, might apply properly ' enough to personal interviews, whereby the means or escape 'night be facilitated, but it could not apply to letters. through which et was impossible to forward buy such mean*. Sir R. WILIoN said that the Right Hon. Gen tleman had rested hie argument as to legality, MI the power of Magistrates to do certain things outlet the sanction of the Judges, but hr meld sot argue the right of Magistrates to increave pains end penalties upon conviction. Were they not aggravated by intercepting the correspondence of the prisoners, sod not only so, but what as. surance of redeem could they have, if the coin plaiuts of cruel and tyrannical conduct were to be subjected to the inspection of those who committed the acts ? Could the orders of a Magistrate justify a breach of the privileges of ibe House ? Ile hod always understood that the petvileges of Parliament, like the prerogatives of the Crown, were not to be got rid of by any by-law of a Magistrate, or by any comae Iris direct 'hag the declared yielding up of the Hesse. Ho had been eiraininieg the Juana'. and bad diesseeted soother precedes'. by which bi; hoped to some the vote of the Right Hon. and • Loomed Gentleman opposite, who had devoted so much of his time, and accuineleted so much know. Wee twofol Ma serving the privileges and indent of the Meuse. He referred Members to the J 0111114116 of .14tb August, let William and blurb where they .• • "' , I . - es • 'boded subtakting soy pappssitioa Buis Italaka on abe)osalp inspoldlitit far to low Qat labour' 'the *object of the Poor Laws ? sight de asondood in ' td to thou to the pr . lthe kw Warm Mr. Scasixce said too should wait for the to. freah• 22, si g hs a d . :: • him ' if D.) ° V : . dige lf w illid " 1)"." would he t et 01 . The roble teems would yak of the plan of the Noble Ma uis. tomparsing a° 11 " , thaionr &dhow to be tiowslatodi suction. He considered tits coo iilhe not malatoia a alegistrate had the power *ere adopted, it woild es idil fag ea - - jr se d highly ifoageroftito mulls asisst tampions's*, ed. the subject Nugatory. tW ems one. :•- iW y . tqfPiAlelllee, • likappip4olLeolitarr cos- miming° Tilt L . . _. Mr. pent. said, that thgra were two peens of f inn yet his 'resilient "NIB rags thus Pai l a • 11 . r ...$ • ..rs:it. waS which be had to conteod : Ono, that *an IVIN-ie no where, He was sews fleiwifis- =lllll6 aoY letters Trusted by Hentbers, or directed to *tending the Blackstone sod Maud Penitentiary - Mt- ""I'S "" i! , _•1 610 0 0011111 0 1111 .1 41 4 16 I. 1 . ° 1.: .... ~tram to low : secondly. that it was a AkiEnueted by tho Riaht MN- Ileideieaw. that • r mead Ind it etprestaly ra sumpitsete . ally sieetbnd that the tweaking open the letters of Members *ss a grate breach of the privileges of the House, a )le i could hotline no cue which could be exempi this principle. If any thing were wanting to era. Heise, them of the impropriety of allowing that power in the Magistrates, the - Report on Ilehmter gaol would furnish it. The House might there see malty traditional reasons for not entraining the intercourse between prisoners sad Member. of the House.. They would find no reason to place con fideuce in the Magistrates, which could have the effect of preventing prisoners flee seeking a redress of arielsocer. Mr. C. W. Weirs a•Maeleelleelltbere wM DR breech of privileges or violationtif the law of the land. The Act of Anne reffited to opening of letters in the poet office. If it did not extend else where, then there was nothing illegal in the con dor* of the gaoler. As to the privileges of the Howe, they referred solely to the delivery of letters through the poet oMee. If they did net, why were there no complaints before the establishment of the past-office? There was a case grounded on the com plain of a Postmaster, that the Guenter of Hull had sent for the mail-bag and °peeled the letters. It happened just about the Revolution, when the emote, was much convoked. He had forgotten the wane of the officer, bet no punishment follow ed. Now as to the power of Magistrates to she regulations under the statute for the government of gaols, did the Howe consider what was the power of the gaoler before the pooping of those Acts ? The gaolers were at liberty to adopt all regulations they themselves might deem proper for the good govern meat of the mimeo. The Judges themselves would hardly be brought to interfere with their authority, Auld would hardly rter sign au order for the ad. Mission of the friends of the prisoners. Before the Act of George I. a gaoler had the power of in solitary impenournent if thought necessary by him for the government of the gaol. Among the diaudvantages of suffering in unrestrained cor• respondence might he named the opportunity which alight be afforded of furnishing • prisoner with the means of withdrawing himself from the eximetion of justice. He saw muds dewier of ohm from allowing the exemption of Members from the operation of the general role. Mr. BROUGHAM had beforeexpressed his opinion strongly that the case was one of direct breach of privilege, and he had announced his intention of declaring that opinion mere fully whenever the ease should come before the House. He was anxious to follow the Right Hon. the Home Secretary, but he wished to bear the opinion of the RigM Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had just Mt down, who had, while on their side of the Huse, as be (Mr. B.) trusted that he still was en the ministerial side, been a vigilant guardian of the privileges of Parliament. He was more strengthened in has opinion. He had beard all the learning and iu genotty of the Right Hon. and Learned Geode man to prove that the privileges of the Hone had not been broken is upon. He protested against the doctrine that the test of their privileges was the law vet up by Magistrates, or soy other body of men. By that means they ought mks any oat rage legal, and the worst and most aliechsavans fancies of the my worst A.agistrates be mode te ride over the privileges of Pediment, merely because the Magistrates neglected to make a It• serration is their low. If the House were to have privilege., the sound coustimetion would be. that of themselves they contained an express power not to be divested but by the House. Their privileges might be limited or pput aeide, or altogether resigned; bat while t hey canted they should be held to stand together wit the law *hese there was room for them to stand. If any other doctrine were admitted, there was au one thing, however gross and wicked—there wip nothing which the mind of a Magistrate could in vein, which. auctioned by the Judges, might not do sway with the privileges of Parliament. He mimed on the owes and precedents cited at considerable !toga...sod contended that the dan ger of abuse was no argument against the use of their privileges. or they could enjoy none at al'. That which was mom essential to then proceedings, the freedom from personal arrest. was capable at* violent abuse, as had been evinced in the case of u Member of the last Parliament, who had contracted debts which he resolved not to pay, and having made s fraudulent conveyance of his Wats end effects to unknown Interns actually caused the imprisonment of many of his indigent creditors for debts which might love been with ease liquidated by the money doe from hits. Mr. WILSON (of Cockermnuth) supported the amendment, and cited law authoring* to thew the power of Magistrates in regulating the diaciplioe and management of gaols. He pointed est the danger of subornation of perjury bring solicited by persons about to undergo Mal, if their currespon aletoce were not subject to isupection. The Marquis of lAlrpo>tDguT aid, he *mold not detain the House with many observstione on this subject, but as shortly as he could state his rewards fur differiog in opinion with the Honours. his Gentleman opposite. The case before the House resolved itself into two qoestirtos—a roes. fist) of law, and a question of privilege of Par liament. .As far a* the qoestioa of law was coo. cerned, if any offence had been committed, if either the lionoorable Member, or the person who wrote the letter in question, conceived that they had sustained any legal wrong. he apprehended that no decision to which that House could come could have the effect of depriving either the Hun. Mew ber, or any other party ►u►taining the grievance, at his remedy by regular course of law, and therefore no prejudice would be done to the cause of justice by the forbearance of the House to secede to the proposition of the Hen. Member. lint the Hera. Member would forgive him if he declined thisking that the law was *kb his la We ear, er tbst die law was set ssierisat N aim the plieileses of the Hasse. All that be hod heard et the law es she subject raised a pressispllee is his Isis/ that the regulations Oahe prises were follyja4- 11Sed aid hem 004 ►y the spirit as sell as the leiter of the law. He new game is the just on if privilege, whieh he epp►ehesded was the propre psis& ter ohs Hem to Mob at. He was by as loess* prepared so say teat Ike privilege et Parliament should be se Cre esteoded, se ibaa all primers is gaol, for every deseriptios of mime whatever, @Weld have as sarestrollod eight to address lettere to soy Member O Parnesiest widiest their being subjected to impedes, sail that say Member O Parliassest should have a right to address letters to say primer without their being liable So . be ',raid. The lies. sad lainoed Gt oilman bad sated shy the Pest-odic@ Ilvd serer fleecier of (seri:44l soy sock control; but the cues were totally dal % rest. At the Kw. elle* the olgoittere and boad.writio. of every 111 kink" a Parliament was knows • hot If the duetriee lowa eaai,,,,d,, i fur vine atlinitted, where meld saw gaoler be fumed eh.. said take or himself the responsibility of °peeing say let. terAggias the Name of a Heather of harnesses. out the ba r k of it! and it was a Ifirotivit fee their e•osidtvotioe whether ell the gaolers le the kiNgdent should be forced into the aiteatioe of deelitineg to epee soy loiter whatever paapi as hi , er-fritei lie priaaisews in shale saatody, ander the appo l bs a g oa of viulatiag the priwileopesa Pastimes,. Me blew se we. we why, is the rote of say bona fide grieweace. each a aw ah . r with Menthe,' of Parliament should be carried en m if,. not pretend, however, to restrict the right ao e g„,, l , as to say that all lottery to or frees • Member o f P aella . stoat, sods parses la custody, alight is all eases be tiptoed I bet he did net think that the privilege should he pushed en as to ride over every principle on which the custody of pri. sorters was heeded. Great public Imachief, be wow ~, great public dottier, would be likely to Hive from the eau. limited esereier of seek a privilege. Mr. DENMAN said, if do poses, ease inertly issulod 4 question of law, esdosiewilly Ms Hos. Friend had his legil re, Needy; bat et the oasts floe that the Noble Herons pat fur. 'grals. geeatiea of law is this case, be (11r. U.) wished he bad alntedf hew his Hes. !Heed use to try the spok es . k was eertaisly a tpiew tea of privilege, the Noble Marquis said if Uwe was a Mud VW* pioneer, there ought rut to be a secret eocrespeadesee. Not he (Mr. 1)) troald say that .beis these mis a howl Ads sriovaace the cusmoinratw a meet be snootily private, sod that weeessity wee sisua g ly illustrates' by the ease which bud so often bees trader disco id*. is that Hose, of that mood horrible hostile the law of Ikhester.—(Chreta; ).-Whew-ter a coorplaiot wassail* la that caso,tbecoodatt of the gaoler bad always hem dahadad sod Judas' so the glowed that he did bo more Asa bin slaty, sad select up to the law, in enetnetahig t• the tuba of the prises, which were Biped by two Judges; main no ever lauded se a wild wad Oman. uses -.(Hear, liear.)..., Whew, however an impair, was iumaileted, it was foood dot be had traMiplid epos all law, that he violated every tab, and bid vital deduce to the orders of the Magistrates tad hi the dieter,. of justice sad betaaaity.-.(Heer, boy, Iwo).- Nem bad a ease been proved sshicb store justly sueited the ladigestles of the House sad of the caustry , —(Cheen.}.. How meld that ease ever bore been brought to bed, but by a omnipotence *et wader the eye of the gaoler? The &torte* of the Noble Marquis would make she iodividwal complaleed of Ilse ledge in the first iniesece, whishet ihr eonnplolat were well or ill founded, and retold give hie the s te lae power to protect lf from asp ill ciiiipeepseoree by throw ing the erisaioa thseoneat into the fire.—(llear, Ow.) —The late Sir l Roesler hod gives a &tido opinion that the pleflege of ParDunseat was not bib, lab.,, by any aisle want f Wills rule of the prises ewe ta bees. reviled without ' it would be unpowible that asy effective logeng fete place into the alined ail pi. WO whatever. ... l• 4A ''. . Mr. Vl'l LION esphdeied. Mr. C. BATMURST spoke agaiast tLe statics. . Mr. JAMES replied. At.., tbe . H•011111 divided— For Ilia *Airiest Malioa . . ligairiat it Majority 'pipet die Molioo COMMITTEES OF WAYS AND MIAMI. Os ger mere so the irs Iles y us fared t►s Moan is Commit so Ways sod Mesas. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH EQUEI said, hied to all the attention of the Committee to • heiseactioe of that omen which lad aleays called teeth the highest ps• melee*, and had ever beta jessly considered se she most solid mil eniumeatiet proof of the flourishing cooditioo of the eale mesas the redaciion of a polies of so AM, Male by paying off or placing it yowler terobis wadi lion epee • lower seal. of isten4l. le the yew 170, 111 r. PB.llllll, then Clenaerl!oe of the Exchequer, peep,. d = t to lower the rate of interest of ali abetted the. eat at the rote of loin per coat. Tie gamest 'Of tie meek which he his brought leader the eneldrrative of PorliameM was fifty *twee milli** peeled% a wee at that time of eiterenee amount, and geese doubts wen ewer. hissed of the senoras of she undertaking. Mr. Pelham, bogretee, was timid. t, turd brought forward he. pls., shirts .ellintately received the sanciin of P.rliameas. The plea proposed hy Mr. Pelham w.a this, that ell the Wells of such' 4 per coal Mock who should vulvas epithet thee swathe, turenastieg me der 18th February, 1749, their wit hering so accept the reduced rate rate of 3 per min. joie. net on lb* eammet of their stock, to Cummetstg Cr... the tith Mutembee, 1757, alsould be pad their disdain's .14 per seee..antil tbeh December, 1750, and 31 per est. per anew. afterwards Gatti 115th Member 1747, sod themel stock our to be declared irredeemable till after she hint ma.. hosed period. The best sebseintion dad not taceril 37,001800/, owns, lea great nteasere, to the lame stock• bolder. being arrayed in opposition to the pas, and added by the petilieed Opposition of that day. lie Masted, however. Mat the Ge ettemer upproite weld din a noble contrast ice their evaded, and that he Aosta phllve the beset( of their support in • meager, se kiedy beneficial to the public interest. Sir Jobu eallik./ orie -1 Mated • pemplakt se the subject f' which produced a powerial effect use public °Pone, aced broocht corer near who bee hese hostile to lie plau. And afterwards a orc.od =ism was opened us terms less f hie to the edema, and more advantageous I. the Fabric, "11.4000freet. were esbecribesl ,• leaviug a reword/I 500 11 :0001. to he paid ae. He would sow premeed to stile she Penitence of tee measure which he was inset to sobsel N the Hasse, whereby an leimehaie rellerstoe'd be pined is the public of 1,150,000/, s.d by following tire same none wish the Irish S per nate. a further as., making together 1,230,0e08. The stock proposed to be reduced comided of, Arm, the Navy IS per cents. which was foretell erigisally by the headier of a geniality of Navy bills, unprovWeel hr at the red of the American War in 1784 ; and the mud iummat mow staining was 141,000,400/ There • es the *hid c idled the Irish five per cents., plaids to Esgamd which amounted to 1,400,0001, which it was popeet to reduce ea the MIN teems as the Navy lee per ere". — Besides there there teals° soother fused, retailer ea seemst, calk d tie Loyalty fee pee crate. which wee formed is 1717, smoke special 'auditions, with respect to the redemptive, of which about 1,000,0401. lemeined. The mania would not Mood to this heel, se there wee a eneeditise gist they were wt to be oedema! until three yeses efterne Navy Ave per emits. is order to inn the holders se new" Lenity to transfer tick capital to the t nee per mdse IV sesamer is abide be reposed so make the reelevioa was this: that he every 10ef. of Ave per eat. Mork, Me holder should receive 1001. of a sew stuck, wiih a divined all per seat. snowily, r ayable it July sad Jaaassy. 7 a , &ebbed hs the Irish b per cents. beiag at motet mud", in April and Oeleftet, it was proposed that she holds re, • naive a quarter's dividead ice July, mid that they shea'' thenceforward come soder the same regolatiesse as the Not I per genie, so that after July the beldam will retries dot dividoode at the tate of 4 per crest., weds the & Noise 'IS permit. teethe capital, which will give them fuer sbilleea • year. This sensate will give a relief to dee cosmos or de 1111101114 i a 1,140,0008. The House 'wild remember heat se that they bad a right to hen the stockluiWer to take hitt wee the vassal of bis, stock in ready meety--(Maz) — " g that they bed no right to compel bins to .crept soy mistatin of meek, which could oily be effected by a erre dittos with the parties.—(Heardsear.)—lt was dear, trete Aire, tha w their parts it mast be • voluntary transetios-- (Hear, hear, hear.)—Considering, Weever, the Meer gages which this sekome offered to she holder., it elope•! manual& le expect I bet by far the greater part see' agree to the ;empanel; and as far as he had Ins stets learn, the probability was dial bet a rely her *odd bold oet. It was oeeemary, however, that the Aramatias• should .be mempletely ordeitered, and asitered, coosisint every glriatiple of pehlic faith as piewiliar, givisi ! ar time sad proper oppertisaity to the pollees fie ceirsiderane s. Hs came now to unties ten ;mists of gatemen Oa the pia• new reposed Amu that of Mr. Pelham. le point et faith sail Palaciple A I/ 110. the same—la the asrairgemest t w the ere cee difeee:d s . a ri t a be gres ieereus ter extens io n its e cou r io t uis he i ri r so ifte. orem es. ... slams Mr. .15 time, rendered it mon &Alcoa tower tale the as it disseet of the bolder. s hoe Sty resided re res. thos 4 • I see I +er let The is leal ibis 11 Ike dm 2 Pie.) (I. fp • me , 0 da dw • 4.4 Po or pl is s lIM W 'by a lel Pe - . adi yet be of en P. AIN 4, 'Me his. set 44 het et- a. Ala iris bar IYe It • e Sr. bad ril- die the edjd f 4 'dime IWO "4 bin red • *Me IS tbe It• Ild • r. lay ito• a rt NO. ssol the OS fame r 311 Ha. is4t le 1 / 4 48 , ne /WI Isse Paw set! Orb, illy Ana lut be ha dal eras 4 sod 11 4 00 ted he be .4 , bet el PE 0.1 411 I nr be bed rt PI! ed •• ebe /Ai e• • I 441 Id se dee■ pa • eak ge . *dam via • Ibe Ik /be ey elm • 161 Pe R• el , F , I