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! • . 111it.:13,4.ArkES take airifa c ritibly act liir Motion>, and said,"tribl if lie,?lieasSirine;' . Wher;iiikleed - he' coultinOVetiteriaitr aideubt ofe tian*ly o slat disptisie, tion of the House to adhere to the:.'prjncip4s. r npo#,, whis t , it already . a4e,d, it ‘ve l / 2 1114,-etit.be i necsarye for hiiii'to u trespass it . and he flattered himself that the motion witli.whickt _he shoed conclude would meet with "the t animous Ycontiicre neWt.i i rthe`Hotrse It wo uld waste of their inie. 4.) dwell- upon . Ingesti on , upon ; whi c h he , L e'as not to encounter e ith e r oppooent or adversary. r But as some doubts Wer e e n t ertai t i e d som e' tea, that the measure-'which had. lately- pasSeckhat House would tr4ich Upon the Preroptive, of the, gown, io others, that it would contribute to economy, it Wonlcl he hecessary te'Saf afeW 'WordS , :inn - nate:tory of -his motion.. ...With' regard to the ,effect of Jhe. 'Measure: on the Prerogative of the "Cro\ye, -he : insisted that it would in no degree . he 'atfeeled hy that Mir: on tilt' Contrary he m=as . , ,Convinced,:iliar, \Olen that 'l3il sh ould : be in -full Cipdi'ation; it would restore.:the PrerogatiVe to a' mere ample and 4eient state. The present prac-; • • tice.of granting Plades in Reversion was-in undue . anticipation of the PrerogatiVe, and both the Piero -gative and the' . 'Power of the - Crown would be etrengthened .A?)( tire adoption of* the measure, be= 'cause the geithde entertained for the grati:t of so triflieg aii . inteie4 as one in' rever.ion was so 'small' as 'not ih °hied of cOnsiderati6n; anti when the party came to the possession, betook it as if he came to it by a vested Fight of his own. The re , weretnatty instances Which - lie could mention, that •whiclithe did not then mean. to press,' which would . serve iiidStrate this position. 'There were some cases 'of tamales interested in the reversion of offiCes, to.whom, 4f the offiees . Were, granted only when va. • eant, no Miniaterwould'venture to give them.: . ..11 I had been said, thatthe - measure-would not have the effeet of prodocing any saving to the public. He .admitted it wonlcl nut cause.ahy_ immediate saving, tute:yet: lieatrit:Conteod,, that pra4icial caw .Homy might be expecied, froM ,n 4 operatiop. A Committee bad been apoointecl to inquire Into the statefol - eciffiees; 'sinecures, and others, 'hell, it was that there were mane offices wills large calOries, 'add iiitleAtutY to be 'perfortned. th e II province c'iethetoininhtee, to grist a review of 4bch • offices, ..atet might be the' ditty of the 'I - tense'to tt)lie up the suggestion of the Committee, in reboinmendingi the nbolition of some of them. But if these °aides Were in the -mean t=rue to be granted in reversion for. ii . subeesSibit of two or threelives, the saving to the: piiblie,'Wlll6ll ri,iQht other Wise be cdnticierable, might tlaerebyi.be.rendered More distant. On theSe . ples,which induced the House toadopt the resolgtie4. In the forme''' . Session; and on "the priticiPl6', 4 lliiefie bud led,ibem,to pass the ,Bill; tried by , hfiti' - to the: lords, he trusted the. House Would agree; to his nietion: The Beporeof the Committee aptibfrited to search the Icidrnals of the Lords, would rhiA& skew. vrhatiaild'happened to the Bill in that HOuse. tied beerrinit oti to a time when it was improbable ,upon it could he resumed, by , - which it had been completely loot. Its prdci', there fore, that no inconvenience- might happen to the as the legislative measure• had failed, laiidevithatitad belie* been the prerogative ; might n ow , be c onglierodits in. tome, he thought it the duty of thatileroustero address his Majesty, that he would be gtiteiduSly-pleastd not to grant anyOtfices Sion, till4itli , HousesAheuldhave an opportunityof eansiderinwthe subject most ftilly. It. was on this grobilid he proposed 'to move the Address. It might., , be thbughi that it would be better-to tiring in the Bill, but both he, and. those' with winiin he acted, were of opinion, thatithe-Hol.w.ought r not to resort to imp aet.'whicli..inighl.leitray a disposition to usurp tile-lee! . gislativelimetiona of the otherliouic.' The Censti, Onion had defined. the duties of bOth, andhe could rot contribute more to the interests of that . Hous e, 'than by confining it within its just and natural lig. snits. • It 'had been suggested:to him, .therefore, that . if a Bill. were to have been breughe in,. it might apAt pear to be,an.aUempt to do that by the single at of that House which should be 'done by the act of the Legislarure.• - Die Mode 'he proposed to adopt was altogether free , from such an 'obje&ion, and there. *ere severatinstances on record, in which, whilst! inquiries were . carried on by that'House, it had ado dressed his-Miljtety to suspend the exercise of cer. nits' prerogative, until the • result' of such iequiriec he known. Withsuch a view he had-framed' ~ ids 'notion, and if the +louse was disposed to sup.; Sort the - principles when it agreed to the Reseinlion itst Session, and pasSed-gille- /Pi 'this Session, he iVas-Cwonvitieetl,that there - would 'be •an unanimous (). nc-l'rionee'in his' motion. Heeheit moved, That' Lin 'humble'Arldres e be presented to 'his Majesty, that' he would i begraciteAbi: pleased; not 'to grant, ice ihiy-part Zit' his, i lvlajeity's dotnioicitei, ;any offices. ; places, 'eriiploymentS or , einbitiments in reversion; ot fat-joint liveS with benefit of survivorship ; Uutil si tt;c.-As after . ' the conitueuterneot of the. next Session of , Parlierneet," Before the - question was Put' he hid One Obsc;rvation tablet; . whith; he .Would italce 'the liberty to aod sane of thatlie :team, 'iii'emearly period of nett Session, toernove for leave to'.bringiha sindlar Ballothat' which had passed that House this Session. • On t lie..question being put, - //r4 RD rose to coo that which he was cent viticed it Was' competent for tod6;t6 express Ilia surprise' and regret at the result of the inquiry which 'had' been instituted but two days since, and Which sliewed that the 13111 which had been sent up t o tile Lore's had been rejeaed in that HOUse. t'xPressed his 'surprise; because it was an unusual though he did not Mean to say this it w as'improper, for the Lords to reject a' Bill vihich '4 l ' passed that hnuie - without any' Opposition, and" ' which , related particularly to the expelldi -114!*0 of the Public' Monej. He viewed the cir cumstance with regret, on account of the Portance'of 'the - Bill Which had been - lost ;' and still Incite, in consequence of theirnpression its rejeCtioh lfvo.4)dgive melee : as to the disposition of-the ether Aleuse to co.openitcewith that in such measures as the bedeethed necessary to gUard the ex penditure Of PALVleniey, Of course they - could in that 4e,tike know nothing"of what had passed in the House of „Lhords; and if there were anYindirea manstaf,knov.v -i g Pr4cedita it Would'beirreghlar, to allude stoti_thein. Theithh il st ShyPose;iawever,*that aln ea- , of Waflinpoiliige - had 'heitrde - eided'io a 'flail, douse,-> all attendance that would give weightand. Pus Ltier4iioh to the decision of that"beariali of the .1 gisletureoafi4ll)at le f tt' .pkinctir..rry tho_se who ha v s is inksattteet, bad ;been prei;enf.,..eitlier Ap.*Ai}o.,,t:tbeTilift, "or p .5 1 ,;( * CeS:111!1)t - rti)otiec',e They hiigt 7 .loop4e. that', - if there hart wit b 't fill 'in-:T . 010"e' out of re spe& ,to' tee nplrw - )3 of the they Inuit have' acijOFirne - ci, in teole alb - *fitlyletnhers an .opiPrp.ilitY ;!t decision of questiier. p ose that the'othe7 HPuie woull ea‘,:q ' , lse : race of cli-pO ts Sitict of'suell eituv , , • House, In the absence6f ihose Ministers whoceuld 'not be absent - withont - groks negleti, without iesuf ' ferable inSelence, or.fr om mot i ve s leis, wort});- or justifiable.' Colild' not, of course,', blow who' it Wa's thafproposed the AMeotiment„ or. NX'llO - ii Was that had. seconded They 'could not know'that the - person • Whct', propOsed_, it , was one Who was ;himself in the enjoyment' of a large. _place. which „ had conic to him by . ieversion, or "that the Person Who seconded that Artkel,:netit was one who had - been most industrious in proeuring such reversion ary graetsffor his descendants, grants to take -effeef - on his *demise, and Correspondent with whpt Civilians • termed the Mier/dui' bit7l4oso. It " - chilies not be 'supposed that such persons opposed the Bill, persons who, were as naturally . absetn • as the Ministers of the- Crown were !present. 'at the discussion. ; But. even it' they had, their opinion must hive ; but ,little weight . with the 400 ' persons composing that august Assembly. Yet not, withitanding-thedecision of the other House, it. was the duty of that House, since the more perfeet lative measure had been reje,ded,.. to. adopt the less-. Perfeet madellnuiremained of preventing the bees from being continued. Elehoped that-thekion,- Gentleman would bring the subje6t, forward again . next Session, _and if the measlire -should again he. lest in the other aortic, lie trusted that 'it Would be. renewed Session after Session, e.4.1til the - other Hotiso • would at' leogth.benbliged tongfee to its adoption: 7 1 / 4 e . 0114/ /V GA /.4.491i .of. I.sXV,ll;ql7l;ii did not feet any,o:ieetion to the Mot3On Of his. Hon. Friend,. and had - risen only iii - cblit'4ttaice of Whit had fillenfroth the Hen.' Genifenitt "silf& had just sat down, to .state 'Ni.hy he did Inc ObjeEtin the pre sent mot on, grounds ;of the c anc let which he had obsrveci t 0 this rheas - me when it 6ec - O . l)cf()rc in its proereF:.; throig - ti - that - 1 - tousei' He was 'induced to do because /he which ild.l?cou follc4wed.by persotis connelied hiat; both, hi that and tife,other k - IoAlse, had been made the slibjeCt cif ikohiiii4yersicin by tteit. ;lon. G4-2ntleinari. :. That- Hon. :Member had stated, that the nho a.l re was •,-)f, such importance, as ; to require the - attendattee . .of the "%iinisieri of ,the• Crown in all ie, stage. Batt though t ad7,,cates of the ,ore were. impressed wjth 'SNI4. of its importance, c ante6ted - With the - '6'Cbnomical expenditure of the public money, there were otbOs . whu thought it : 1111 W . fermichble, AS' trenchingupon the l'reroative of the r "Crovit. wished' to sepiratelninsell from Kith. He did r not thitilt.' the measitre: could have any thAterial. effect uppp the - pretsii4.4tive,. : athl it was f u t w h et h er. ' ; upon the wholo, it svntsii either intert..re with the prerb.rtite, or pin.ine, , any euu6derabi.. Illth re 'ilipoint of public ecenonty. At wouldoialueitionabi r clieneisit grnitsfer the.present, bin it .would proper tiOnlbly ac.ld .. tl the future tneaes of exercising the Prerogative. atere inig - htcortainlv be many (Tiles in which it would beosiraae to provide for a ()us public servant by a grant in. reveotott with ssttsichhetisight he satisfied, tbt Ns . hem,4 provision in &tse rtilislothertYise te'iti4ile.. This 'assertion 'would :bd'illiiiiiated'hy 'the .piiitaiee which abtaiaeLl' of re warding Lord Chancellors by a; rev,eriionarygrant of :a great place, such as : the-Tellership of the Excise - titter ; before the; recent .modo 011 giviug thetn,pen &tans diretlly had. been adipteci. It: was his impre sion that if the'rrieaSure'did'iint oij one hand Cornet: bate to economy, so unit lter . did it on - the oilier arpear foriniciable as to_ its etre4ta otihis Majesty's Preroica tiVe.. nut if the Bill %vas of s uch' importance, it was, thin : dtitfof those who to - attend 'to the discnision of it. Whets theltilt had been.firstbrought forward, he saw no pubhc . grocmd of objection against it. But it was not from .entertaluing,... the same viov open_ the, stibje4 with the who had juin spoken, and therefOre'li Was,' that some of tlie stages might have ti6ssed: without his having been pre- As to the surprise expressed by the Ron. Uen titas, he couLl opt ppycur in soda a feeling, to the discretion exercised by . the House of t_,OrtiS" iti't heir iegiShrtiVe - caOcity. 'Nbth i coitid . be More Mischiest:ous that to suppose that tliat Hiattse had win 'p i a legialinivudiCtation to the Lords, aml it was because he did not think 'that it could have any tieli r eire6t, - that he 'coMitiered the jf&'eed ing erfdii.rliondurAte. Irriend urtexteptionatite. As to the ,assertion of . the .11on. Getitlernan,., that the House shhuld, Sessiee aftLr Sossion, t a k e u p t h e Measure, until it CbUld be forcCd* upon the other Haes4,- and in 'tile rno:an time they should imptise.a restrainc.on the King'sjkerooive, Ott groeml:upott which he agrce.:l to the„tpetiOeo his Hon. Friend thilt (Ise . ITouse had aPpouited a Committee of . inquiry Into places ntl'Ortkes; and as it *would 'come within the , vitt&Plnf.the Committee to eensitier:What Places shosihi lie allolislied,,and the House, tni&ht, be, dalledlipOn seggstiOns Of. the ccentiiii. tee,'-he th - hUght it right That no obstru6tion shbUld be given to :suctt retistens!bythetgrant, in the interme diate time, of any places ,iu,,reveritin, .would have the (Area of putting off ihe reform to a more astant tnution nf "his . Rom Frierid might, with the-same propriety as at present, 'have beep brought forward at the time the c' s ?mthittee of Finance was ,appointed. As to thedisgrace imputed: by the Hots. Member, for'the manner in which the. measure had been diiiioTeir OT in another place, he Should lehVe iliat to' Offi*lo de - 010. 'n4t : - certainly na person - could be • more :disinterested 'on such a gaestion, thah one whO enjoyed an office' that' had devolved upon hiOi' by a reversionary grant. }le bad nearer unclerSfood that it was in contemplation to deprive suck persons of their itialaeS;, and he was therefore 'at n less to conceive 'why. persona Of that description might not as well .as any 'other per Sops - exeiCise their disCretion 'upon the •general question. :The individual to whoni the Honourable Gentleman alluded, and 'ofhis : counec. Lion' with whom he had himself reason to be proud, sad on this and 'every other . oceasiort exercised 'own'itlcliiiiebt with a view to'the public interest.,—, Nothing could be more unfounded Or ridiculous than ilie statement, not that': heheired iti that Hoese, Out that had reeehed his' eies'from another quarter, Out jpetod of 01066111 y opposing the measure theniselvce-s •t' 4, •R io • • At that ; tltMemint.llacttnade anpittfir:.essiom either :there prin 'ihe,cokAntry he wits glad, te,takcAhat opp,ortuuity , of Tyre W:ts cane.ici unnd.fli4 would not • it ire 'W.tt to . • Witintrid" y • such. . 'ltidiriws.; he could 'never haVe'pldr.fed a worse per - son for tin, .purPwo AlAti out., so, !wilily coune Cted with . . rue ,pers r uu d 0140E 0 1 _been to. Limas • howevilir, saute, that he cer ri,ini!,-; had. known: thnt-'it ties's , the intention of that ,person. to oppose did' measure; 'on . what .appeared to him great constitutional grounds of objek:.tion. This h& had known flonl a conven,ition which lie had .with-thAf ifersOn ;.nilicat,,in winch that person had:etpressed . surpri'te thit he had suffered the rtiea.! .sure' 10 pass that; - 19 . 1:1';e without orp?Aitiop, Bui if he could not pro'dtice chatlue . nt that. persianis . ''opinion,a So neither had any 1. err e s ifeated in his'oWn, 'and he had felt surprise hi the aaive opposition made : to themeasure -from that qoarfer. Nothing was far ther from bii i thquilits thaff to influ ence an y perso n on the: iiihjed'l farfilitic it; he had assured his Hon. Friend, in a cbroinunicatiOn he (tad with him since, - that Whether fie should bring forwyrd Ilis motion for an Address or 110010 ai.4 on the part of hii Alajesty's Government should be resorted to tharconld inter' tete with his vieim ••• His thin. Prieud widdild do, hini the ; justice to-R(11114'1114 whist he was ready to sup port this motion,; .he had declared tlvit if any ,rne a . : sure were to be '.bi - oUght forward, that Would inter.F . fere. wit h the fintiaions . of the other' Route of Par. liauieut, lw .vould, whether single or. supported, re• mist-such-a proposition. He wished thq business to remain open for fiett Session, . 11 1r.:BOUV4itig . e.xpressed the greatest Satisfirc tionlit the deeLitrati o n of the Right HOll. Gentleman, and at his supporting the motion of his Hon. Friend. Lord HI N4Y: P..4r4 1 1 7 cancurrpcl in the satisfac tion es.pie , ..ed by his Foci. rriend; and'wdi sure the Plousc: wolud participate in the sameiceling the stateraeht.of the flight Hon. “entietnan; to every p.m, of %. 1 4iivh, applied personally to that Right Hon. Gpur he .g.rse credit. ilut, as that night [hill. condom:in .had stated the grounds of his l'acquiescende in the'motion, to arise from feelings of inchr - @ehee . witli respe&to In:: !sure, in jostitica 'ion of his own conduft, lie humid 'to state the gr6ti:Os of his eonciirrence iu the motion. He agreed I toit, not only becOse:there was no objetlion to: tiom the contemplation of the advantages that Would result from the trfNsurs.. One of the*reatest chicks upOn Government In Ow di.,pc,sai of PlaCes wat , the - flotoriet of the ticancy because, if thoy ; . could be granted seeretly,,in compliance with the so. ; licitations of those c , ,cret.applicants who surround all 04erniireitts, they Might be diSpOSed of to persons . tes whom nu Miitirter would dare openly to; them; But it:-was OspOciatiy'detirahle, "that nO such' grants .shoul4 be madewWst.iiiquiries.wef!tr going on. Thqe was., a pNialeal,litoiif ,of the utility of 'this course in 'th'e comictact of - sitielate Government lrzdancl...... • PLICC Of“.ootorner of the Port • of. Dublln w ait' pot_ cairient.,,.and the Puke of ilairOl:cl uyable to it so, because; it hai', bet; grmitea in , rver,ion. That Irati, how ever; alt , ;!airAl the 1 0 ,30: In - si011; which.llo might . ha ye done. .A.s to what the flight lion. had said of tilt) dkiiitcrest , ctlr.os' of tht,ni:: • %st . ho held 01, - ic:es drat had to them by reVei.sion, to prove' thit li;.• most have thai the pthises.tion of (alO reverslon#Y Place tf4pk to ay the de of apother, He contended that hisllrin. FriClld had not argned tor iiiiposing any restraint on toe PrefokatiVe, or en'the right's Of the. 'other House, but t hat. that house. iihould'.-piliceed e,,cion after Session, not violently, fort that was not in their pows..r, but eon sti , .utionally, until they sh ou ld, (1)1:01; the objea.they dc,red, and' send the theasttre Owy 'have passed to the House of Lords, wi t h a ll the weight inu,t attach to the ( 1-,;.pi • skin of that 1 - louse frequently . and solemnly, .re, peated. Sir JOHN 13.411RiGlIT owed.i S' o to 1113 WitStittients, and, to liirnself,'!to declare his; Nil and entire e9neurrence iu the ;notion of the flOns:'Gehtletnan, and he'coald not bht e%press his eitreme surprise at the manner' in which the Bill s 'lltid'sbe i taf.dl4posed. Of t in. the other Home. • , Ir.ll/1 . 1 400.f.-10:could not-concur in,the.satis failiOn which ILid been expressed by his 'Friends ;t. the declaration Of' the Rieit Iluii. (lank:Mau, bo catlso that eight• Hon. Gentleman had declared a - clitrefent ground for his agreeing to the \lotion than thitst up o n it had hetbre rested, 'rile Pt. non. I' Gentleman s.iidhe agreti4 th 'the liamuse the nce Comm iee !night recommend the a bolition of 10.N . 1.e plaeo, and it,Wiltubut desirable that they should be wonted in reversion, The Right Huh. Gentlemen . of ptiiite had . not i,tated any opinion belbre upon the inbjecl, bin:they Oefepitglged t ' o (4114 rileasureoNhich he :inferred noralone. trout their silence, but from Ole they 1144 introduced into the King's. S)' - ch f t • LI 0 I a, ai„, ,it of the }Weisetit to ' the' prc ,,, ceelings - 010.th4-Tinanc4 %; aCt tneasure had been. ' !twit iin.)fleitly i,. believed Ilia 4ateinetit ,pf the ;tight Isfoliour.bit: Gentleman, arizl r agitest drat he cotdd not h:lve selected a niore 'intitrunientlAu tho measure than one so norly co,tincaed with him. The iligh t Hon. Gentlqinair thought .t Uri of mill: r and water inea'snre.i, bat in this lie' did LA& agree vith' him,. nor - would the Country; . There srerii d, frotiA the alteration in the night I lon. Gen tteinan's Bentitileig,N, to. be ground for au impreabion Nat - intimation • had been giver; sonlewhere th - at this meashre was displeitsing sotneu;liero, But. 110 W, ever that may be j 'and though the 'Right, potwur ,, able Gentleman might think that' the Govertintent vitisilht;,tts a GUvernindin, pledgii,,t Ini..`l„iitaipr, he contended, • that Mini4teiss,, e riis a (;ovetiwiinti were- . dist ni.(`-tly pledged - , hy , he any one igetnbeka the Q.,Oinet tootlalarlgrd it . .11)111L an9thOr ~. it was , that .Nicildicr %%1;0i:a duty it had been :to read the 51,:ei411,,t0 both Houses of Parliament. 11,ud 1.1 11: spet:i.:fr of iu 1-Totto*able Friend .was only not pertkl tor - not ,114vlt* i l itotiCed the cirruinstance, that i •flio. ).,orti Chaneellor, 'wlib had that Speech, ha4'9pposed - theirill. When Mihisters had been absent aectio time Of the diAttisSibn . , there wai reason 10 Au'iP 6 q fair play► had not been_given to it.' The- !lilt bad been oblee,;ted tal*tisu it restrained the prerhga five; but that Would' be tioObieOhlt tbr if necessary, lie should rest 011.feLl of the prvrogative of the. Crown, its influenc having so t.)Tt.llt4 inc reped. to a ceerele -tn.:insure apt thp . pro*diiits . •tif i icy I.ords; that- ii,-15'tiot -• ,• ~.••••• ::111r. tlir.tirpolyer . ; • the .Itpttse of Cotigi6t/f r tr.!...itt% Ai Ofthe'Ratilic:p.urse . „, WaS.bOund by in. its power to alai , / t - b . 'the •fiouie of bord4',. that ti.-y_wottld persevere in produeing the meaktie til the Lords shOuld be induced to agree to it., . lie had thought it necessary to say thus much, be ttse he differed from his Hon. Frielids as to 'lie satilthcf tion they had expressed, and- .he ; thisted his Hon,. Friend 'wotild . bring-for Ward the inettsure next Sev• sion. •^ • , The Address *as then agreed to izerr. ine cientret diceige, and ordered to b e 'pre.6oitted by . s - ticii Merri;- beri as are of his y Majesty's . Priv Council. . ColneTßy-.BANK.F.tts. . " e Mr. DAvkES GIDDY matte some eliservatititis which the noise that prevailed in the flokise prevented us froth accurately comprehending. As tar as we could colle& their tenor; we understood the lion. Gentle, man, to give notice, that in the bent Session lie would subniit to the House a •Motibu relativ.: to thle issue of Notes from Country Baoks. On the Motion of Mr. POSTE R . ; the House resumed .the adjourned debate oti ,the motion for extending the term for' entering, into reoognizancet on' the Dun garvon Petition - . A long discuSsion ensued, in m-hich !.ti Fciiter, Mr.' Whitbread, the'Chaticellor of the' Exchequer, ' .Mr."Ponsonby; Mr. P. Moore, Lord Velhsione, and l Mr Windliatn„ 'participated. The (iallery *WM cleared, and several divisionsook place. (I)oring' our exclusion' 'front the Gallery, wee un derstood that Mr.. Sheridan postponed his motion on the State of Ireland to Thursday next.) . , GEN,tRAi. STATE OE AFFAIRS On our reeadtiiission we found Mr,. WILLTBREALS on 'his legs,. speaking., to the question, that th e House at its 'resin ; ; do adjourn' to Thursday nest. ' : He stately that 1110 Sitllltit.g) in Which' the'country stobd e;;ls'in . evere point ,of viel.v most gloomy.. It appeared' to hin i , that. hoWeVer short the inteeded. proregettien, in that interval eveets might teccor Pre:. • duCtiee 'of irremediable distress. If ever there war; an pecaiioti in which predent,'Miilise;rS woi 4 1 ( 1 Adviid hi4.lll3jesty to keep. Parliament together,* vas in such a crisis, as the present.; With regard to. on e- Power (Turkey), it'had leng'been a matter of Os. pence Whether this Country was et peace .or at war with her; Ai!..ts of, hostility had certainly been cenuinited, although they lied not been officially announced. 'His Majesty had been advised to send a Minister.to' negotiate With that Power, Un questionably be did not Call on Alieisters tc'.d . :.darc . ' the progress of that negotiation, [ea the result of it, ; ,reusVsopo be exPeaed. Any,ia,'eve knew, had entered into al.Treaty with Fr.ittCe• He wished to aSeertaie,.tincl..hidid nOt'conceive that .any obje(lion could be mode to.the gratitieation of the wish, \the, thee' aey,commu& cat t o n bad been made from the CoertqfPetersburgii t o tlie Coat of London, since tice,signittgef t hat Treaty.. It certainly Woulkl not be prudent : to .ask, at thepresenf nn-'anent,wlnt steps ' his .Majesty had been.atlvix LI to t,:ise with . regard to any evertures of Peace diet bid ht cn inade,ll,apy had 'haen made, from . .France ; he e,eild not; hoWeritt, - lot slip. the ,opportunity of ,itivising, hiSVajesty's I.l.linisterS . most ei.Pl - nosily and most rire,..udy, :Ind in giving Co is i. , ,,i‘ ice he felt that he C;lftliNl 1' it h him the , helots of insuy, to iMiii thents.el,iB Or ailY ,('l)Porttl nity (hat udelit oiler of uegociation. The present . appeared u' hint tohe a pt.rioci in it !licit it was pos- • sible, if it were deAtrottsly n-x , i, Ind in that spirit Which ought to pervade such it ,ills.C.tions,, tilliCoun- try 'night escape from the ealiiiii;ties of wer, llecer rine- to the Cir.ctaustances in which 11ritaitt was at the , ntoinent placed, he 'observed, tai at ~.ve *new that Prussia 14 been coeePelled to ethic:hide LI TrOty " . itli- kl'a9ce, by which Treaty out tihips had been exCluded- front Dresden, end from every port un# der. Prqsaian influence. If the rumours relative to . . the, late Nay.iir . EXpeditieu Wets. well feueded, it Was very possible that, a tieW enOlY inight . he Cte -otediby. it to this Courark; he therefor,: c, , ffed ou Ministers not to advise. his. Majesty to prorogue Pat.,. liament until the rest lt of . that Expedition had been , 'receiVerl, and until Parliament sleuld be etiabled' to give their opi n i on an the wisduffli in which it 'origi, noted.' Of Ainerica, in the present Oct3icato situation ~of atrairabetween the two, countries, he would sa y nothing, Froiri the de.seriptioe given, ; it weuditp l . pear that this Country was surrounded by hostility ; with the heart at' her:revenue cut till ley the depres- Bien of her West, India 'Frade i with' t ie Expedition gloat, the resultof which must soon -be aSeerwitiedi with Treaties 'concluded between Frante, Itussia,and • . . . Prussiak with the Etnperor of Vrande .rettirtied to his capital, cinch ready. to ,er.gage in any eilierprise which , he might think proper to adept ; with a ‘ - ote . of Credit front that House so large as to enable . his Majesty's Ministers t..c prOrogue,.Parliiiinent for a longer tilde titan, usual—with all these eldrining sir_ cuutstance,s, he sincerely' hoped, that hia ALijeste'A Ministers won)d not, counsel his Majesty 4 to'preroe'lle Parliament at the present momien. :AL,. s,cret,o4 aiN.VING.:„....ct air, to s,ver: i i of the qaestions ; proposed by the lion, Gentleer' m , it is riot consistent with my titity . to an.wei• J but t o such as I can anJwor witimut any brrqol of mu July,' I ant. perteily disposrd to rig. ',.t'i i. ,...‘ I-1( 41 . ci4ntletn4l probably ;Intaelles mote, iineortUl)o : t o thlit (intniAldn which rel.itc.s to the I.lw , '4ir t l'reeiy : 114 entoired whether any sins, corrinii•mil.!a;irln I;•1 hti, ( .in .uricle i t 'lwo RUStija to alli Country on the s e b. jeet o4: t nedietion betweett this Cut:miry and France.' I r j‘ Lt u ed . ,, i 4 y, . sie, e e direct cootinunicati,i3:l from Lissie to t 1 .Country "it is !Wide !nit J think right te.statei,—thet thet ennunani( ut ion ).1.-:,1: )),:a aecoinpanieq)by any comniutticiatiott of the .;tree between Iltistie.tind France ; neither of the sr : artiele whiglrichttesenined any other iation, nor of ~.. _, . . 4 4,94ele,l.,veatever. , The [communicetion to which 1 allude was received on the Lhl of tit. present , Month ; but It was revel* at that-note with out ' any knowledge on the 'pert of Ins Maje!ny's,.(24“. vProluent of. the conditions that had !wen stipulaf t ., j. in the Russian Treat with Fritriawith , re'tipi:ti : t . 1,. 0 the> period o► timevo which th't reply of 4tlghttel to the offer of me iiiition shOuld be lirnited. ) .ile i.- erticle of the Treaty, as well Apt Ai, v, i, the xesr, i s 'k tm r , to his ,maje s ty's 'Ministers only tilrookli the 5, , in..- illannel as that by which it'it known to thee,te,,li:,, , in ‘getteral—French 'Newspapers. tinder theye- eir- i dutrlstances I ;Ave only to state, that to .nee-enitle- nidasion of such a lialtiro iteras impei4W(• t :;: ; .: any flarigisbould by returned bin a e ote/iiieteilee-,- swer. What the precise netitreAf that ans‘Vvr V i "A t Sir, I am confident that .3teither the, Hoe. Gi :1 , i ,..., Man nor the flame exp_etis rue to divnlge r. li f.,:t i it wal,jtt'wgs returned in pitrfat L ' 47 ': ,, :I itit - ,-1- t' ', ~.- - , ....'.5 ~:c►i~~.