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rritiVirity among the pubEe. lie could not toy atlas he shared throe ueloor with them, bat while t ranted. it would be most onfortionato for the 1 character or the Home if they should have re-ourtie .a nominal n- tiopopishor mode, of proceeding. . I'h• LORD CHANCELLOR declared that hr never !end a teener p.infol•duty to perform than to express iris stootittmst• in public Iwo.. a question so ex -Ytrely delicate as the present, and so sensibly sr frt rio the interests a n d honour of the Royal It was. however, hi. enoilobition to reflect, oat thr Itrilie.plr• r0.0r..1 to every the prottr i.O affioled by 3 wit•he '641. ond God forbid that he should aryls to dertire any iisdividual of ! If now he should re. e t inorn•rl the If.f Meta in the first nominee, and b e f o r.. aoj err I , ..I a Secret C mittee, whose rt,ity it void I Ire o•.Iy to suggest whether so y further, or whit proceeding• were necessary, at IRO% From a fir r 1) cotirirrion that ouch a proceeding calculated rather to protect than to injure oritence. Fie could not conceive how fuels a Cont. •wittee could in any snootier prejudge the interests of the Queen in the event of an imiwachment being recommended by the Committee of the other NVese the Noble Lord to ask his 01.11)100 whether any impeachment would he recommended, lie should certainly &mower in the negative ; but if the Committee were to recommend • judicial torn reeding, he shonld then know how to deal with it, and if a legislative proceeding. be Olinda equally know how to deal with Mitt. Time Noble and Learned Lord then remarked, that by the stAitt a of Edward 111. the man who olionlcl vinfilie the Queen, the wife of the heir to the Cr o wn, or the King'. eldest daughter, was guilty of high treason, hut that the female consenting was held to he guilty only by iniplicition of law, as ac &scary to tremolo. If the Mlle, however. were committed in a foreign country, the principle of law would no longer operate, and he knew of no way by which the fact of adultery committed ler .nch circumstances by • Queen enold he pitiliolird by the ordinary tribunals of thid country. He also iemarked, that no greater prejudice could happen to the accused by the appointment of a Committee than arrow to every pertion accused by the finding of an indictment by a Grand Jury. The Marquis of LANSDOWN obseroed, that there els' no analogy whatever between the ease of the finding of • bill of indictment by a Grand Jury. and the Report of • Committee appointed by 'ht. House eliminatory of her Nlsjesty'a conduct. In t firmer ca.e, the individuals forming the Gravel my did not afierwardo assist at the trial as would he done by the Lords of the Committee, for in the ease of her Majesty the House of Commons would stand in the place of the Gram! Jury, and their I .ordshipn as trims in the place of the Petit Jury.— ( War, hear.) I'he Earl of DONOUGHMORS said, that in a case of ouch importance he could not suffer the ocea oion to pass without expressing his opinion upon the course of proceeding which the Ministers of the Crown had suggested, lie acknowledged tills noon sae% • subject he spoke with extreme diffi dence, foe having the misfortune to differ in vow of thimatter from that which was profetord liy those Noble Friesids with whom he mi. aceo .... I..med to Sri, lie could not but regard leis own ...fitments with diffidence sod distrust. Ile had ...oil winor attention to the *object before lie entered t!o. House, but he moot coofe-s that he had since lased nottimg that could induce him to change his -oi t itioni. Ile thought the mode proposed was the 'oust delicate, effectual. and respectful that could lie pnrAvirrt, heiwg the beat calculated to collect the troth of the allegations charged with the Irmo pros • ble irjnry to the parties concerned. He hone:tied to have heard during the debate so many allutions no bed been made to public opinions. a. if their Lo-d.litie.' first object in ',reforming their great and ooteton duties were to ascertain what the people toight say, without regarding their own *rose of prositiely and justice.--(Hear, hear, hear.). — His Noble Friend nese him (Lord Holism!) had re marked that there existed in the public mind great Cettsihility and great irritability upon this subject ; Mot limo his Noble Friend aware or the measly that had been wed to excite this warm feeling ? Did het know tif the fame and milled statements which lid heels published ? Did he know of the ilistiwted factaWhich heal beets communicated? And did he cot how* that a few proprietors of public newspo. eters bed she power, if they wished to exert it. of . .eteiting • clamour upon almost any subject ? After '• few &ether observotiona. which our limos prevent it', from publishing, the Noble Earl concluded by expressing his approbation of the motion. • Lord HOLLAND assured his Noble Friend that although he had alluded to the warm feeling %%hist/ 1,01 been excited in the public mind upon this sub jeer. he by no meanr spoke of it with approbation. and he had even added, when alluding to the sensi bility and irritability of the public, that he did net oboe, those leelitigs. He certaitily disapproved errengly of the mode of proceeding by a Secret Committer, and he had further urged the ittensisis . setter of the House now bur • g any course which miglit tend to peevent . the futn.e exercise of their jodiciol authority with impartiality and honour.— TEM, Lordships stood in this painful situation, that they 'mist take into their immediate coosoferatious the 'subject matter contained to the papers. when they might be called on to act judicially Oil them. He would not say that the mode prop med.was the . most severe nee that could have been thought of, hut he had tin brutal ii•i• a s va”iti: sheet it was a most uncommon , ~,,, beggrtt their Lordships' ri o u „ for l isw wg uct•ni r.it at, mad) of their Lord. time esplai.atioy, hut he trusted the im. yortalice of the guettiuti would be a sufficietit apology. The Mmejais of LANSDOWN said. he rose merely for the purpose of expressing, that he concurred in every sentence uttered by the Noble Baruu iu his explanation. Tlie motion we, then carried without • division. Their Lordships are euintooned fut. 10.1110rfuty, for the purpose of balloting fur the 15 Lords to term the Secret t;ornmittee. Adjourned. HOUSII,OI CpMMONS, cpsevore, Joie ? Such W 3 0 the .11'm:weasel tautest attached to the bas;. 01001 reeperctowt . that coodoct of (Lot/noes, which had hews lilted fiat Ohio ~Wino, that the stairs !ratline to the Gal. levy were illed with Weimers so early as twia.teltiet The decie vete mimed NI ittoorra at twenty minutes be. I r.►, f rF • 'tbrre, sn ilea eery f. w risatee tLs C .Very ♦ee rem 1 .1 trly shed. Theilerraaas fuels the Ch.h a few 111101/14 4 1 before fuer o'clueli, by wlWele firm $ erweatferable ■eMrr uf Members were aerterabled. NEW WRIT. A new writ was ordered 1,, he iwined for the Porcine, of Saltash, sn Ike rum of N G. Prendergast, Esq. who having ewe,' chows'', a Inseam for that pdtee, and also for the town of Galway, had made his eleenon to nerve for the taller. BOHOVGH RR I DGE. Mr. L/1011 Krell bronght up the Itepnet of the Refer( Committee un the Preston nf the fhwongh of Ilorwegh beide,. It stated that the Committee had &ermined 'lint she two rollume Nee/gibers, I , Marinsdll- —4l -AMMO Weil re Mundy,' E.g.* had slot tweet duly elected; and that Henry Dowling*, and Richard Spoourr, Five. abuts hove been ce• hulled as the Members -gimes to Reeve is Porlameot for the said borough. ". The Clrrk of thet11414110: was thaw ordered to attend to morrow to amend tk return. GLASGOW GAS RILL. Mr. K. FINIAIT presented a PeWien I►am the Clammy Gas Light Company, against the shove Rill, which, slier some ronveromioa betwe►n Mr. Finley, the Speaker. Mr. Gordon, and Mr. Curden, was read, and retired to th► Committee, together will, all the Melilla*a presented against Ihe Pell. COA 11. S. Mr. CCRWBIII morn' for ■n Arronnt of all co ‘l. im pursed iNlo Ireland, from the Mit of January, 1819, lu the 12th of J y, UMW—Ordered. ARRANGEMENT OF BUSINESS. The SPFAICER suggested, all the private Isnriness on the list having been gni through, that the time of the was now arrived when it might be convenient to have she public business commence at half past four, lustead of eve u clork.—(Hear, hear.) Sit W. CVII7III pOilimeed till ship illy week, his motion for leave in bring in • Hill for the twisty Regulation of the City of London Militia. Mr. LowTilgit presented • Pelitiow from the Ship.•wners of Wookiogton, and Mr. Irst. *posher from the Ship. inners of Sunderland, both against any alteration in the estislitig duties yin timber.—Read, and referred to she Cum. nutter ow Fo►eign Trade. Lord W. RVIIITINCIC prevented • Petition from the Octet piers of land in the Como! of Notiingham, praying for ad. dituinal protection to the Agriculiural interest,—Brad and referred to the Agrirrilioral Commitire. BREACH OF PRIVILEGR. Mr. S. WORTI.TV preowsited a Petition from W. Bolton and three others, of Hall , who had been conc►rned in an action against the Warden of the Heel for the escape of Mr. C. Horton, expressing their regret that they had been en. gaged in such transaction. A similar Petition was presented from Mr. Rosser, of Red Lion.rquare, who had conducted the prosecution. They had paid all the captain, and now Shrew themselves on the merry of the House. Mr. C. W. Wynn, who had originally taken up the silliject as a gross breach of privilege, muted, in order that an entry might appear on the .1 la, that the Howse proceed a.. further, as the parties had expensed their contrition. — Hear.) Molina agreed to, and the order for the attendasee of the parties was diachorged. Mr. C CALVERT obtained leave to bring in a Bill In con tinue for twelve *instills longer the Oils fin. 111. eh. 36. for the better regulation of the HaLing Towlt, and in prevent the adalterati•in of meal flour and I►reael within the city of London snit the Liherties thereof. Ssr G. COCKUVIIII brought in the Marine Mutiny Rill, which was rnd the first time, nod Jam' bar • attend reading to-mor►ow. ILLICIT DISTILLATION (IRELAND) Sir J. STwer•RT snowed for trove lo briug ins Bill In repeal so much of an Act s.f the 394 h of the late King, for the suppressing of the and the imposing of fines for offence, of Hist nature on towels's& and ',monies, as directed Grand Juries to present of commie. half the expenses 4.f the extraordinary police establishment required antler Hoe provisions of the forme Act. The Honourable Baronet stated the grotto& of his mom ion - at some length, but in enissequessee of the part s.f the Howse in which he stood, and the great confusion at the time, he was quite inaudible in the General HART, in seconding the motion, obeerverl, tint the Excise officers of Ireland were now, by Ilse rending laws, intrusted with the management of a sort of ex traordinary police. In consequence of the late Acts In pre. vent illicit distillation, many districts of Ireland were re duced to a worse conditiou than if martial law were esta blished in the country—(Crier Hear, feat)—it was preferable in the system now going on there. The Excise officers were at present making seizures of pro perty. forcing open henries, and indulging its all sir seriplions of violence, (sided by nothing hut the hope of rapine and plunder. With respect so the offence at which these extraordintiy proceedings were levelled, he feared 110 end would be put to it, till Ministers took the irettion peri wig!y iglu consideiation, and gave them the only hone . 11de remedy—the erilabliehnsesit of small still. dirosighout, the country, foe the consumption of its produce, in the time mann. r as in Scotland, and as War the rase 110 Ireland before 11w there'll spitent had hens adopted —(ileac. bent 1 lord HOUNTCHAIRLirt expressed hi, readiness In asaiat in any Bill for the getting rot at the military police introduced into many parts of Ireland by the t xtsting Excise Laws, He adverted to the veal smother of inforniations for illicit dittillation at the last Assizes at lhaneril; and really was of opinion, that his Majesty's Ministers were called upon to relieve Ireland from so great a burden as was imposed ow her by the prefer! Excise Law.. Alter a few worts from Mr. 11.1:tt1INGT0X, which were not not heard in the Gallery, the motion was agreed to, and leave given. STOREK EEPEICS DEPA RTM ENT. Mr. ItuMe mowed for an account of the whole establish went of the Siorekeeper.General, both at home and abroad, fur the year 1890, *hewing the atations on which the differ ent prisons were employed, and their allowastces. Also the amount of the contracts made by the Commissariat depart. meet for military stores doling the sam► period. AlllOllll account of all proceed. from the sale of stores fu► the same lose, ■ud the purposes to which they bad beets applied— Ordered. On the motion of ',sesame Flow, %lemlwr Returns were or &Ted, *do wing the ussinber of men of the 50th and 99,1 re. giments ends-irked in this country clorior the year 1819 fur the West Indies, the deaths on the passage, and the times of Wistiegpbarhation spil landing M ARCH EftT ER . •• Sir F. BURDETT postponed his motion fur en inquire into tie ttissactious at Manchesaer from tu.alurrusr tall Thurs. day; June ikt. Tie (;lass Sill passed throng,' a Coramitteit.—Report to- The third reading of the Customs Duties Regal.' ion Rill was postponed till Friday next. The Report of the Dublin Foundling Hospital Rill wits brought up and screed to —Third reading nu Friday nest. The Report of the Dahlia House of industry Bill was postponed tall Friday neut. The Committee tau the Irish Fishery Acts wu postponed till to morrow. The Committee en the Fiat ■nd Cotton Bill was post poned. • LETTER FROM THE QUEEN. Mr. Baouul4*M threi rose mud said-1 am com manded by the Quern to lay the following letter Iwiaae the Hotter. The (Inn. awl Learned Gen demist then read the communication to the fol lowing effect : "Tiie Queen thinks it 'necessary to inform the 'louse of Cummuns.tbat she boa been holsters' to return to Eel Mad io curseqeence of measures pursued arsiast her honour and peace fur setae time past by secret tweets abroad, mad tat tealyesectionerl by Ilse Government at beim. leeidoptimy dee worm, she bee had so other object titan Me dame of her ebareente,sad of those jest rights which here evolved M her .by the dumb of the late Kin, ie whose Web boasece, justice, and gracious protectiose..(Criee y ' Ilear)— ' die had din,s towns/ a Myr euppliii. itrital, the (sees/ wee seirpened to fed ildit • Meitner bad bees sent by tamentand of the Kiar to both Ilibettoo or Par""'est , Is cell their attention to written doesinteida es the fuwodatinn of proireedinir eilairomplifeit orient hen—and leans* with mill greater surprise that time peon, are iirupimil to he referred to • Si-eret Committee. This day fourteen years the lint Agree wee preferred egoism her Majesty; tlwm, and on every occasion since that lime, she hes ,Manifested the etamat readiness to meet her sennen, and to have Itot fullest inquiry insiituleJ into her emotion. ston she desires an open inrntigetion into it, in which she May see Ilre clearers against her, the OrCleller. sad witionwee--(Henr) —a privilege not denied to llw loweblest individual its the realm. Bet she, in the fare of Partiarwent end the country, eolemnly protests against a secret trihirnal—a mode of peo. mediae s lomat to the rennet principles of jimmies., in it wee enknowsi to the conatitutioo itid laws of e.o.nd. She retire, with the fullest confidence, um the jimlies of the Houma of Commons. * The Queen cannot forbear adding, that even before AY proceedings were ennifscared against Mc, t he was treated in a manner too well calculated w prejndge her rause. The omission of her name is the Liturgy ; the withholding of • rimy, yauce from the Continent to flan conestry; this rtfosaf given to as application fur • resiiesee in one of the 'mow rims Royal Palaces; and the neglect and atisdicif alights of alt the officers of the finvernment, nf home and abroad, can only he justified by l.er regular trial owl conviction." . Lard CASTLEILEACII then moved the Order of the pit , l i ,r the oppouttnaent of a Secret Commit tee on l'ilteet regarding the conduct of INF Ma jesty. The King's Message having been read by the Clerk, Lord CASTLERFAGII said, that in tieing to call the attention of the House to the very important ✓ubject of a hich lie had given notice, he was vivre that the house would feel that the took unloosed upon him was an extremely painful and deli cote one—the task of inviting the attention of the House to nue of the most distressing and deeply interesting public questions that had ever been agitated in that House. or hrought le fore the coun try. A Ed he assured the House that had soot lie. in conjunction with his colleagues. been iieramiderf that every measure hail hitherto hero taken which prudence, and moderation, and delicacy, and every attachment to the Royal Pernmage tilos, nearly tote rested dictated, that unless his mind had beet, con ✓eientionsly ratistied that every possible effort had beets swede to snare the feelings of that Personage. and to net rt the tircesrity of public disclosures and discussions, to all cases distressing. and unwise ir not strictly owerioary—he should have left the ob 'creations which he should feel it his duty to sub mit to the Home in oilier hands.—( Hear, hear.) — Ile apprehended it was always usual and strict mat ter of course. that whenever a communication was Made to the House by any branch of the Royal Family. and ssirtictilmily by the Crown. that the House always took it into its immediate consider*. lion; and it was after that coosideratimr, and the deliberation and thicussimi of the subject. that it was called iii to pronounce some jnolginent and decision nit the case.. But he wits sure he might say. that last 'tight nothing of 11w temper of mood winch furl) a course •supposed hail been disclosed. Ile II gilt he might say. that Kb of lois. representation, and garbled statements, and im proper diacloonires. had. even rio the evidence of llonourable Gentlemen opposite. taken place out. l od e o f d oo rs, without any thing being sluice within the House adverse to that calm. cool, and taisprejudiced state of mind which wasindispeesseble to tier arriv ing at a just determination of this very grave spies. tion. In the cowrie resolved on by his Majesty's Ministers. the object was 111 leave Parlllllllrlll Open to follow tip the question in whatever snootier it might think proper. He now wished to whirrs+ himself to that put of the subject which moutally grew out of the question which hail been put to him last night, and winch lull to the question. as to the course of proceedings which Parliamesit might think proper to adopt. Ile had been asked tostate distinctly the intime of the proceedings a Inch would lee recommended by leis Majesty's Mi n io n .s to be instituted against her. And Isere hr wa. pelted to protest against the charge that Ma jesty's Ministers, in 111mgisig this question twfore Parlianient, appeared before Item ail the charac ter of accuse.% or prosecutors ; and lie asked whe ther any part of their eninduct was liable to such aw imputation. Ile trusted that when the House would advert to the Message. they would kgt that no comfit tttt ication had ever hero made from the Thrime inure gracious its its ternis—l,4 A NA: . /if— or which was noire calculated to whew that the King was sincerely desirous to throw I elf on the great Council of the Nation. and. to rely on their wisdom and affection on this great question, which con cerited linnient amid the country as well 1111 self. and the Mourrchy not leas than the Illustrious Personage 011 the throne.—( /Icor. hrur. hear.) — lie apprehended that it was only by taking the matter tole consideration in the 111111111er in whirls Parliament had been accustomed, that it could he enabled to judge of the.enystroto of the papers, or to propose the must suitable course to be adopted. He assured the House that et was not the in tention of Ministers, its any proposition which should be made, to fester Parliament as to the grounds* of the protteeditogr. the nattier of them, or whether any proceedings at all would he adapted.— (Bear, Iteur.)—But while he stated that Perlis meta mould Ge left sot perfect liberty- on this head, he should mislead! the House if he sofTered it to he inferred from any thing which might drop Irmo Ilion. that there.was not in the documents coinuttinicated swatter of the greatest and deepest interest 10 the country. as well as to the honour and dignity of the Crown. He observed trot, the cont. muticatiou made to the House by the Queen through that. Hon. Gentleman tend legal adynter which the Conetttution allowed her—(l/ear)—raid lie supposed acting on his counsel, that she most. tiered the Ministers as persons coming to that House 0r...11141'4md scaliest her comae. and ailerons,. ed. d 1 0111 ' 04 r. to secure a convictiolo, mud that she looked upon the evidence to be exhibited against her to Colllllbi Of written papers. solely unsupported by oral trillium/Iy. He could assure the Honoura ble and Leaned Gentleman that there existed no real growud fur the first supposition, but he wished be could as easily relieve his mind and that of the illustrious Personage bum the latter. C.4ad forbid he should sly that be saw uu .lift rent* iteideed Viierge tad conviction Ile feared it* ersult would rove the* this caw was ' toot taken imp tut the alight gruonds the film. end Learned Otosdemon seemed to tbiak ; the lion. mid Learlwd Gentleman suippoied that the Proof of the charge at Mow rested an meritteo tom• reimoications. he was Utterly relisinfllitited; fur be could tell hint (or far as he eenitifed to describe the case now) that the eircaahfoisikeii, though in the first iustance tuft aced lb the eispe of rhocusnetote. cosine frelm partici Sho +vete lee' pared to come forward before soh ateiter trait:nal Phnulif he appointeml, to corroborate iii person sod in the limit rolemo. Weimer the whole mat ter alleged in the written sorhemfirftte they lied sielowrilwd. He mow clime to ilk entirie of iro. everting which he thought it would Become Perlis meta to adopt on the premed occasiou. He could tint here help expressing his testoolislionent that her Odajedy, with the amble merstonee she had, could have had fora moment aoggestett to her mind that it could ever occur to a Minster of the Crown to recommend any couture of proceeding on the pre sent painful tool most distressing occoron, which comeid (twit any girth upon her Majesty, without al lowing her every opport ty and in every roomer of rebutting wlstlever presumptions now overhung her eau., sold of doing so both by crora-eseinnia tion slid in the most public master; for he thought to.problicity, when that inquiry came, she was co llard; it we. the teapot practice and distinguiehed character of Dullish Coitus of Judicaturoe. This opportostity oteglot to le fully afforded the Queen, under the . pustretiosio of all those safeguards of per atonal liberty and individual protection which her Majesty must *Wm, not certainly in precedence. but sot common wills otw liminsblest subject in the realm. The question, however, now for considers ' tion was. not what should be the ultimate course which Paihametot ought to take, but what they ought to take to present, for the purpose of pee hininary investigation, what was the coarse of ! proceeding most applocalole to the jultdice of the case. and most likely ow 'Nord sir nyiport ty of establishing the innoreace and honour of the Wllnrtnous Personage (if they ran be establish led), and of upholding the dignity wtsf honour 'of the Crown. Hr womild for Oslo porpore re coonisteud the same course of proceeding as that which had been adopted on preceding ores . stmts.—(Dear, hear, hear, from Ilse OpproSihoe /teaches.)—He understood that cheer, and he km.* and lamented. and felt es deeply es soy of the Honourable Gentlemen oppornite, that there were painful peculiarities in this case which it many instances differed from soy others to which refer riser could be mole. What the Howse might ultimately do, he hail not now to inquire, that con sideration woulot remain until they had received the Report of the C miller, which would pro bably befor . e them not only a mess of facts, hut precedents which, by analogy end reasoning. night guide them to the proper course they would have ultimately to pursue. He would not now au ticipate whether the House would eventually refer the case to the ordinary tribunals of law in the country. or so the High Court of Parliament; or whether it would be disposed of, as was the case ito omfatter, in private life, where parties came be fore the Legislature by Bill. There was a goes- • Mil more immediately open for consideration now, which was the mode of relecting•the Committee, to inquire into the papery laid on the table of Par- liseneoot. and consider whether soy. and whet i proceedings should be adopted on the occasion. On the consideration of that preliminary Corn mittee would not in the slightest degree depend the broad question of the guilt or innocence of the illustrions Personage. They were mere ly to report upon the nature and substance of the documents, with their observations thereon both of fact and precedent. Precedents etinugh they had of Secret Committers. ito making iirrhiesinety inquiries siturly analogous to the present. There was the • rase orßishop Atterbory, and also of Sir Thomas Ittsinhold. no which the Com 11l i l ter had at the out set to consoler of matter which might lead to crinti utility. In the mode of framing these Committees, hue was unable to find that any course Mill usually multiplied thou that of a Committee appointed by ballot. -With respect to the p iple on which the selection Amid be made. he would again state. that he hooked at this Comminute so little as one whose Report would one way or the other affect the real decision et isaue—(Hear, hear. front the Up posiritoos Benches)--he would repeat, that such was his view of the Committee, mitt if their decision Ira ,. th a t no grounds existed to justify further pro cresting. he would assure the Hon. deutletneu op mute that out our them would feel more unfeign ed satisfaction than he should at such a result.— (Hear.)—He could assure tlwin that they could not feel more relieved than he should at being spit ed the pain of entering more at large iuto the discharge of so arduous a duty. He would assure the House, that fruni the beg g • to the rod !of this most painful barium, the conduct of his. Majesty's Monsters lied beets abuse all the insimiustious and imputations that had been by some levelled at it. There was nothing to the tenor of the King's Servants, from the first mu !tient they communicated on the present subject up to now, which would justify any matt ip insmisaming that they chewed any great impatience to rush boss this Ifivrptegaltatt. or to press upon the comoderatiou of Parliament guy of the aiduous and most painful circumstences of the case.-.lllear, hear./—W tilt respett to the 1101 tt Itt Alloll of the Committee. think it right to make souse allusion+. In our sense tattler of a per•onal nature. There were two lion. and Learriem . l Geuileineti (Mr. Broughato ind Mr, Uroitionto, we wrangle). whose assoteuce. however desirable on ally oilier °regal tttt ought, in his optuiuto, both for their own fakes as well as other groundr. be dispensed with at present. if the Report of the Committee should be, that too further proceeding was called fur, t h an with a view to the frelitigs of the Illustrious KflielletCe herself; such a decision would have snore weight ernamoing from the Committee. without their aid or persuasion. than with their concurrence. 'rhea, again. in case the Committee should be of a dd. fereid topuitm, are the delicate and difficult slims. lion 111 which *hey iloo4l. see llle psrrdsetstllrut 111 which they would be placed. They had mow a very honourable. as well as critical duty to pet form personally to the Queen. They were her profits. atonal advisers ; they had in . that capacity a ditty to discharge which might clash with their mother cud -~+-„; a • . . . more general duly as canseierdiotii M.soshere nr Parliament. It was impo.sible fur them. sappissin lc ',kenw proceedings necessary. so to square their course as to make it desirable they ,Mould Ike e5p..... I to I he performance of Iwo ditties which may cl soh ant'. each other. The Noble Lordwilforeed flay iseces.ll v of keeping these duties distinct. hods fur the pet monad Convenience and asondreileas of lb, 1i.., 1 ,,,,.. dole /ail Learned Gentlemen to when he e n in i,,,i, whd would otherwise he moot disadvantagentis'y situated. as well as law the 'are of the illia.triu... f i ersonage Ilwriwlf, whose character might be III_ volved en 11w result. He woo/. 0 . du-rehires spool this point submit to the Ifouw, whether it would not be betty,. both for the arise of public jalollyr; and Of the free and uswnrhorrestwri rhsehorge uf tin it Arty to thew dint. that the liwii. anal /warlord Gentlemen should lint lie rivisckloi by being friac,if in any situation which would rx probe throb to a 1 r...: mature disclosure of their view of an 01.1te..4 and important an imjuirt.—(lieree. kn... heee.). W hen the House received the !tepee; at the Secret Committee, they could then. ise f. Sir Thumai ktimbold's case. consider whethei the next step (.4 an)) was to lead to int inapeselintieut i ; ft, to any ales cosinse jiientied hey t h e practice 4 Parliament. Tr.e gustation would Weil come before the Home in on entire Alpe, and Wel edtild take ally woo those pleased of the application of the promuoinnii sub_ toittee by the Com m ittee to the cir.eim.too.ces if the case. wit!, all the lights wh•els would !Iwo be thrown upon it. Such would be the cottrar he should recommend. and he mentioned at in answer to what had fallen last night front or Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite (Mr. lien mail). Having stated this much of the Otithor sit the course which he thought it would be aslimothle for Parliament to take on the present occoarous Ile should now beg leave to advert to WHO! Oltferri linos which had fallen from liiiii. Mendreis last night, and also inritlentqy oil twiner orCeastoott. re. PireCtlOK the course hitherto ionisers' lay hie Misis.4- ty's Ministers. Serious advice had been drismwd , al ilWrei. and 11 1 1100111tieRill given respecting the sultan. responsibility under which they were acting. iss..» he could assure both the Hun. arid Learned G..... tlemen who had last night given those ailissointna..; and he could also insilOre the How. I leililellb 49 t 11.. Bennett) who had relished a ii,arit stud temper so hdstile to calm deliberation, Shut Ins Al ti•aly's W hiners were to the full extent aware and in•par,il to act upon the responsibility they ft It middle.' to thew official *nu at in the country. Tiwy weir prepared to joist with the Host. G.isrlemen uproot, WI ettlltlig the attention said scrutinizing rye of ParllOTOrtit to watch the whole (nurse of their lay cretiongs tkruiegliout this very etoliarras.ing &ces sion. and hr tntild strove the Hon. Gentleiliets mat Ministers were prepared he challenge any premises lw say they had taken an unbecoming step on the oc casion. How could the Ifia-e say whether the ad vice which they were now compelled to give his Majesty was proper or no!, until they knew more of the details of the nature of the charge against her Maesty, and of the whole of those transaction.. in reference to which their advice had hero tender ed ?' Government, he enuld assure the Home, !pt not acted upon wager mad idk rumours. and at the same louse GM forbid that lie should *tat e *follicle prepared to adduce facts which may nos hy posodiddy be ellectual ly rebutted. lie 'rooted the Henke woo h I give him full credit when lie sleet aril. that n0t1n..4 was further from the intention of lass Majesty'. NI!- nisters than tn shut out any part of the Merano lion elwcb could possibly lead to the exculpati..o of the Illustrious Personage whose chasmic, wa. implicated. He would eves. appeal to the Hon. and Learned Member opposite (Mr Brougham). it iii ruy communication which lie hod with any of his Majesty's Ministers on this 'object (hr knew lie li.nt communicated with some, though he. Lunt C. was not of the number) they Insd disclosed to him the ex istence of soy spirit in his Majesty's Glivern.nrait of presuming fragrant biome against the Illinnnotis Individual, or of wantonly wishing in taint her ctiu racier by unfair and unfounded iii•imeaton.s. Tim Hon. and Learned Gentleman last night said, that it lay ul him (Lord C.) nut shay to snot, out a struug case against her &lajety. hot al.° to whew that ho memos were op ets ill MIIIISirt. to re (rails stay longer from bringing this qiiestioei ta i lor Parliament. He was prepared to Inert that call, and to say that the case was peremptorily furcrit upon Government by the &Winn lake., by ti,e- Queen herself, and that no other course rrow 'inn) open to them. He could not help here alluding to the conflicting opinions maintained by the Right Hun. Gentlemen opposite (Mr. Tierisey). amid the Hon. and Learned Gentleman upon tin. subject. The fistmer had di•tincily stated that when the case of her Majest . s'a grant came regu larly bellsre Parliament, he would call upon tin eeriiinesit to place the House its a situation to etre.- cise its own judgment upon the in slier ; 1 e would, lie said, theu expect that all the rumours defog.- tory to the character of her Majesty should he disavowed. and that she should be placed in a situation bee g her station in the votirstry Z or its that her whole ca-e should lie distinvi,. - brought before the House. to abide the remit of than judgment of radiomen'. The ' Right Honour able Gentleman dial not certainly soak his t.ew lees harshly than this—•' Either that Ins Marsly had been betrayed by his Servants, and exp ert! to the iudignity of on iudividuil . 4lin, when) hr might to be protected, or that that inetividuel, entitled ley her rank to homage and respect, had twin 4 , jasigli vilified said maltgued." Nni.„ too that p..stia line Hun. Cientlentan. so far bout expressing his ening ie deuce. joined issue with In* theist lion. F'lr". l, for lie thought that it was Ilse ii.nvesl duty sit Gat verisment out to star one step on the bailor.• unit! forbearance could nut by po.oihtlity .he (till" a protracted, that being the bitty way 01 111 , (0‘1 1, a; paitiful disclosures, which. whither they shun • prove true or false, could nut tail to pole( th • character, of illustrious Personages at i•sith• 'q a manner moot tnjorintas tu their own 10Irrebl a and those of the community. The 11011‘)01.4L:' WO Learned Gentleman land even iitl•lcds tll4 8.1 the ititluence hods of policy snit duty insitu•en upon ltdonisters the task of - avoiding every speciet uf irritating investigation, Wargo it was lorroe ,l kaput. diem by the strung hind of necessity. S,Ore that petiud lie hail nut tweed from the Wm . . a.' Lem . '" Utollenutti any relaxation of that seisii. IWON'. Weed so late as last aught ha seesseel to nt die .1 • a matter ideliarge, that furbearasice bad owl hers 4.4. " ..1 i far curette.. it was ewes botiod by hop, that he . 1 1" I"' think the steppes! taker by Isar Majesty cane./ for lily 51 :~3 4 0'• '