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wedreseand if, 1 comeeive it to Ite . such a man of Conte :dic tion' sod •isiosicitio that I would not convict any proton un it, and, therefore, I give my vote Realest the secood reading." Ler., Csltheirpe was not sorpri•ed t hat s on a question which, from ,Is very ordure, rulmitool of every shade of moral and rebored hossider•tion, Noble Peers should differ . in the par. t 'eider -or* they took of it. Entertaining, se be Aid, a con. elegem this, enteconiliect of a &vs.( ing rod degraditsg mature had been proved agaitott her Majesty, he still could not five him vote for the present when he !Urgd to loci pe eolier dthation. Ilad the ease *Failed her Neje* , y bites fully w o oed, and that her conduct .had bees as licentious ae it was seri...toted, yet, nolees it had been moored th it she had ••oluntarily reeietiell her rot:nut:dal rights, whets was sot the he, eve.. then, mioit think that the priest was sot the peeper mole of proceeding , . The Noble lotrd thought the Howie of Peer* had neglected their dnly, as patrons eunrilian• of public morels, in not remoostrating with the l'riocess of Wake before she (misted this country; they • boob, have t o ld her, shit she was forfeiting the beat pro. t •etion—the protection of public opinion; that she was .olitting a country where morale were rigid, fee ono in which th'y were more lax; and that she was 'objecting her self to !„creep., temptoti iiii He would ask their Lord. ship% if Ibis was the lime to expooe kingly power—oe to pool a Bill that would throw 1111(1110 no his hlajeste SS a 1104(ball(1, a. a Kine—or as the Head of the State! %Via this the time to ask the Royal Assent to a measure of such an important cloture al the degradation of the tforen Consort of the Throne' Under pitch circum. starters, be could not vote for the Rill, or suffer it tee KO a single step further towards iti conclusion. As vot ing for the second reeding would be appearing to coun tenance a principle he contd not sanction, he must give his vole artinet it, He thought the condor* of the Queen as proved, was of • ages and degnoliner.ature ; rod he felt the. inch emidnet ought wet to breaded by ...aft and tender names. iir WAS carry that the Conae, at prewitt, had no alternative lint that of a virtual acquittal ui the Queen. or of prising this SlbirrriollAre BJI, whit:, in its origin sod its nature, was highly ohjectionehle. He wished sumo mode was found, am was 'lit:gritted by a Noble Lord on Saturday last Cllenhoroneh' of the House exereeeing its feeling. on the rourtoct of her ' Majesty, at peeved in evidence before their LoreChipa. He believed, within Noble lord who hail spoken, that p•hlie opinion would come right at last : hut he cone-raved it one atter evils of the meaenre, that it tool ru g..nemon and compassionate (relines on the mile o f hrrutiun•nesa. The House urea it to dwell and to the coun try, which hail a here claim sin it, fur having poured forth such a mass of drigneting evidence as had done more to poi. lion public monde than soy thing that ever had oceurred in 'hi. coo otryii was due to that politic to snake every ameorls in their 'tower, and to evened, that they are not lite patron , of rice, hot of virtue. The N 1,1114. Lorel then proceeded to eilloei.e the Earl of Liverpool, (•11.1 had brmight a nerd poser into the diacwoion—the power of personal charac ter tie thoneht it sir se tine to the honour and character of the British female, whose virtue was the chief ornament of arwietv, to record, by an Address, or a Be•olution, tlwir seritimeola soi to the condos t of her Mai-sty. His Lord ship conclad-ell by .1. clatilig tif determiaat ion to vote spiting the 11.11. The Martinis of St iffaril—" As to the ceeediency, my Lord., 1 reentleet the Noble Lord on the Woolsack " Be just aged fear out ;" but I wish the Noble Lord hail contiowed his quotation, and have said, " Let all the ends thon sim'el at be thy country's:' %Void., it not be miserable that our Queen should be degraded, disgraced, and driven to despair? World it not be mivetable that this Constitu i *lndere/Melt we have lived for • long period of time, that this Covotiletion ,huts' be demolished I.—(Hear,hear.) —l.' mho all the elernmetaner s, fay iwird., I shall certainly vote aesiod the hewnd reading of the Bill." Lord De Clifford roar Mill 11110ke in a very low tone, which was scarcely audible, even at intervals, below the bar. We understood blot to say, that he considered the whole of the evidence foe the prooecturou tainted with falsehood-- that in looking at the qiiettion, he could not help adverting to the tintont•nate ilifreromesx which hail existed fur several trine hi-tavern the Areapwd and list' Ilhestrioos 4'ersonsere most nearly allied to bur—and that entomb boil been stated to more that her Majesty could not remain in Ibis country .th advaistage and renal - too to herself. He rootlet nut but tel that (big 011 i WOlllll be rejected ia setae stage or other ; eriee of Ilear . , —null, in hi. opinion it would he adviaeable to get rid of it at the priewsit mootest.—l'lweve) —" The gamer we get rid of it the Netter (6i.1 the Noble Laird), and therefore, 1 ,hall undoubtedly give my vote agonies the BM. - -(Lourf cheers.) Lord Gr•nlhom 'Aid, that upon this great question he &renal from thine with whom he generally voted. It lied if u slid at the beginning of these *proceesliuge that the 11011 SI should he goveenert in their decieion by einsuspreted 1•13411.11re.—(1/ear.)—Hr told otteoiled to the evidence mot monthly, hot could nut give it that ehrwatiter--(Herre)— :old slot. nonce was now emploeed in making a low to tn.-et on oft. ore He saw many difficulties in the profess ut the Bill though the. House, sod through the other Hittite. No Allman furtsielit could reach thaw dificullln, and he was 4,lll.firi'll that the country would be served bed if the men. cons ii le et MPS' pet an en.l to. He was •ware that the I ias of the Bill gonad be mailer of triumph to some Get' iriCit.l., who card no more for the Quern than they did tor the monarchy—(//earl—hut be brew it would be toot a tianysa.ny triumph, and that the good sense and furling of the country would soon set the quertion owns a right Ippapp. It the case tern' a common IMP, upon oho+ a ver d et of Guilty or Not Guilty were is* be prononneed, 11.• ~u'..l have to censider that there bast been • great deal of tonlia.lictory evidence ; bet hr would a lso h a ve t o l oo k a t grave and heavy suspicions with which tlw cal was rorrolielowd. Although he would say Vol Comical, he could ...4 ley his baud upon his beast sod say Not Gnifee.— (//ta•.) shell not give n silent vote opera this orcoaion, Acentric moire id my Ideerued Friends have 'Aid th - it the evidence of the Captain and Mate, en which they is usitoecherl. Now I deny that. The Noble Lord lore proceeded to slue, that the Caplan and %Isle had con trolicted each other. Same penises. hail to the not brieging far•raril the Counleas 01,11. Now I eirofeos non+ n. I *boob! have «lilted it, If I hot been toked whether it doicreet to bring her forward, 1 should have said NO" Ater the manor I saw she Soliedoe General examine Lady Charloitoe Linden,, the daughteerlf a Prime Moister, to get et 'that was curtained in the letter of bey linahand, whch be hid written tie her to advise her to leave the elneens o hie!. drew from the Lady fears oh aceivons of her pee r ioio,y 1,1.11-16011+I shoold hive decoteilly said, •• examine the Coouters 01.1 i." The titters, has not acted a guilty part but an aristocrat rine ; she 113 S come before tau with v tideace,and has said, e I know the laws of me country, with it fall cantoction that jostler will always succeed in this rii.l" My laud., you are sow psoreedlorg to pass a Rill e f Pains and Penalties on disproved and ttolounded •Peest Ono ; but I wuctil call npon ems to pause before you do so. I fir one 1 1 ,11 give my derided vote againd the secoud reading of the Bill. Lord Goefotil odd, that lie had heard enoheli of evidence to place him under the partied necessity of saying gui lty 10 the charges; Ino 'to the ettev.ove s t ood lie, us, his up0n..,,, extremely ioespeibent. Ile was not afraid of in, p sa l m , clamour, tort Ise felt convinced that the feelieg of the loyal part of the community was decidedly against the nice. aura...4llear)-41e retold out are but any moo could rote fur the Btll without the thyme, clanse—(Hear, hear,)—reo4l lie eosold nut see how any soma could vote for the Rill with that clause—(a fatted., aid cries of " /Isar, Ipear.")— Ju a Caw Ike this, IM etrieleoce ought to be so clear end overwhelming, us Jul entiviwee every welediiipose.l mind in the emote" of her code Uhler all the circumstances, 1 feel myself boned to vote against Ihrelfill. 'frit Doke of /libel Moaned their I,molellips be sew owe with so heavy a beset. lie bad attended to the welder/gee sad the togamentie sod be must say, that he coopidervil the Clouts . a guilt pryired by bee own evidence. If hi' did not state this to the-Howe, feeling as lie did, he should out think himself Sorsby to remain Ilithin die walls of Parha m/4st. Thu it Lordships were bound to protect the morals of the cavalry, which could not be done without particular at leothio to the satitawity over the conduct of the female part of society. It tternme necessary, for the purpose of keeping immeenlete the Fair of Great Orisons. that the 'tapas'? *lamb, murk its sense of such conduct as had bees isicuithovertibly proved 'ghost the Queen,— . • :~. -_ ! 1 ' ism . Having attended to every thing that had pissed, holh at the bar and in the House, the efiidence, the speeches, and the argolonessts of Cossesel, and the talent and clog ilia. played by their Lordship., hr said, on his honour, that he considered her Majesty's guilt fully proved by her own elvi sh:ewe. If he did not state Oda to the House, feeling as he did, he %Mould not think himself worthy to remota within the walls of Parliament. On the question before the HON.*, whether the 801 l should go through a second resoling, he slid not mean to detain their lordships by going through a de-. tail of the evidence. It was nun y; for matey Lords who hail seen reason to vote again,t it, had at the same time declared that they cools' not pro sssss once the (Wren to be i 11111 l cent. Her Majesty, it appeared, had passed above 30slay• with Bergamialooe its a tent ; and, added to the other woolools of suspicion, surely it became him to say that he could put hut one roonstroctime on that. War it possible after that, that the Queen should be otherwise than guilty of a criminal intercourse with this man ? And could any Noble Lord who believed that to be proved, permit the Queen to be at the head of female society is this country ? --(Hear, finsr.)--In giving the vote he wan about to give, he should consider himself performing a duty he owed to the character of the country, to it. murals, and la absolutely necessary to support the delicacy and chastity which had 'hitherto distinguished the British fair. How, he asked, could their Lordships have their wives and slaughters pre sented to the Queen, after hearing what they had heard To alte.atioas in the Committee he should mot °Nerd, hut lie could not consent to quash the whole proceeding by voting azainst the second orading of the Bill. lie in his con. 'trience believed that the body of the people would, of calm consideration, acknowledge that the House acted justly in carrying win or some much measure. He was confident thst dos would he their opinion, and they re flected that proof load bran given of the parties living toge ther tinder a trot, like man and wife, for thirty days weedier. It was 010 to be remembered that the %wen had had doe most ingenious and able advocates. As an boner nom he could out do otherwise than support the second reading. If soy thing of a more mild nature should be proposed in the Committee, which would at the same time satisfy his naiad that the wellbeing, tlw morality ; and the virtue of British society should he thereby go:trots-41, 1w should not oppose it. Boot those were the objects which he must see first secured. Ile hail nothing more than this to any. As so honest man, and a Peer of Parliament, he felt bound to rote for 11w second reading. The Duke of Somerset—(.4xsid load cries of " Question") --paid he lead merino% objectious to this Bill. Ile expressed hie dissatisfaction at the Malin' of the evidence, and hie dis satisfaction was in el by seeing a Commission silting for the purpose of collecting evidence in contiguity to the place where her Majesty's alleged criminality took place ; and that, in order to °limbs evidence against bee ilLijeety, foreign governments had exerted themselves, while they in. terfereel to keep back that in her fivour.--(flear.)—His opinion of her :Majesty woe more favourable thou it hail been at the commeticemeut of the proceediugs—(ifear . ,— previous 6,113 . 41 lie had beard stories to her prejudice, hot the worst of them bad been coufuted by the evidence at the hair. The evidence for the accusation hail been in great part disproved, and lie did nut think whet remained sufficient ins torpor* this Hill of Paine ;sod Penalties.—(fferae.)..-11 worlds were the same every where, it dill not follow that nerannert Ought to he the same every where. There were many allow. Nimes to be nestle for her Mikity in this respect. In the estimate of bee fact it should always be recollected that she was a foreigner Her manners hail loot a Notorious for their frecliolli berme stn' had been selected as a wife for his blajesty, and if so it was unreasonable to expect a COM. pleie con fertility in Owen to those who+ prevailed in Ibis country. Her Wet might have been extraordinary, on pendent, Mill hardly to be accounted for, but lie could not diagnise fr himself that she hod froind herself is di ficult, in cruel ciretimetauces.—Jfiene.)—He saw nothing which could lead him to give his assent to the measiree. either in policy or justice. Justice as it retarder! her Majesty, or policy as it recorded the errantry. The prosiecution had already carotid u great feeling of disepprobatiun. Partici pating in this be felt himself bound to vote against the stressed reading.—( Near ) Lord Grenville rose amidst loud cries of it Heise' He commenced by obsessing that almost every Noble Lord who loot addressed their Lordship: had spoken of the extreme pain with shirt; lie had discharged that duty. 11 well for their Lordships then to conceive with what extreme 'elem. saner it was that he now presented himself before them, abet he stated that up to the very moment in which lie rose lie lout hesitated considerably whether lie ought or ant to tl.tie his eweioaoi WI this oc•casion, that tempestuous period of whkh a Noble fdieyid had spoken so feelingly and elo quently having gone by, he did hope that lie might hive been guilty of obi eleeelictism wf politic ditty. if now, at the end of eight-mieldhirry emirs in which he lead been regard in public affairs, he sliontel have dedicated to test and re. iteement the few ri•maissing years, and few they insult be which Providence 'should allot him; and were it otherwise, were he as anxious to interest Mill tosvolve himself in the elewiessicso soil decision of political affairs, as lie with the hoist pet re: . pieverity was dem 1111 l s to withdraw himself from them, yet there sea? ir aus ter connected with this case which hied occurred many years MO, mail which he had ems. voidalsly load mini elMftril which 10111111.1, indeprn droil, Of other consideratiniw , have rendered him particu larly desirous of lakisig no part either in the progress or the result of this illVlstigni iota But their Lordships had Ilimight it proper to require tlw attendance of all their Members for the rooted, ration of this ireetion, and he had them ght it his duty to obey 11w call ; he am here, thereto a, not volmiterily, certainly—not according to Isis own wishes, ant aretlf , 11111: to Ins 11W11 inclisiations, as he had often • in the eli‘cussion of quest 00000 • here, hat most 'v -111(141114 to perform • duty whirl' he would gladly have escaped. Under them circumstances, he had most seri •ly doubted wlwther it would be proper for hint met any pint of this paisitul transact ewe in attract thew Lordships' attention, feeling 110 desire to influence or alai the opinion to which any other Peer might manse to Oss nil oth r orcas 00000 • ins a hick he led addresoral the Howie, he hail bees actuated by a desire to press his own semi tiered. me the minds of wile's, by a wish that the House should adopt that line of policy which he hod joked to lie the 1111 l ss (mishit neelor to the real interests of the country ; trot on this iteration he considered it to be abloom a duty to •lest sin from t w attempt to elialige the 5tp10914.11 of soy other individual. The duty which a Peer bail to eliecharge here mesa a joslicial one. He was to pronounce his iteetaion a. • *until not Its lei• view of she miller he eon. stment with the duty of a men in that eliareschr, not only time his own vote, hut endeavour, if he possessed Ilse power, to sticilie the •optisioue tit when. Hr hod no swath wish. Ilium if the confusion arising tower& 11w close of a •debate, protracted a. this* haul home, Wit not prevented many Noble Lords alto very rarely took • pail in the discussions before the [loose from venting forward, and avowing the grounds on which they meant to art on this Iffeal•ileil, lie thenight hintaelf compelled, though sorry he was to be so, to express , the grimed* of ties resolution lie hail fOlllll. aid which lie should feel him.. If obliged tei follow. With no presumptuous hope, with en wish W a...homer the nisi. neon of any other to en, be owe to tremble their Lordships for a few aiiiiiites..—•Henr.)—The sovettiies was, not whether this Bill, or :MS Bill to • tar circumstances. shimilitfinally pass the Honor, hot whether it ought to be- read a second time, that was the epiestion ; snit like every other (sureties/1., it was of iwermity componside•d of the ealard cosisideratisio wf justice and oxpedieney. Of its justice he should first speak ; for no mail could powered one step is this betemess, after hearing the i eidence gores at the Mar, sue degrading to . her Majesty's character, swishiest' beteg impress"' with the rOliariCllo4l, that the veniality fully establiehed a clear and • sufficient ease of that nature set forth in the preamble of the Bill. Without that conviction, it was otipuesible that• soy men could give his vote fur its second toasting. This. volt had been established far inure sufficiently and fully• thin it had been his wells; but considerations of a public • velure weighed mere with hits than any privateers... On' one point he felt bound to say, that meld he have brought blesuilf to eosieur, and most earnestly did be endeavour So -brims himself to concur—if lie boald have concurred to ithe opinion of those who' thought that sus. pie ions and presumptions , of guilt • bad Wen •the only con clusions established by the evidenire—Asis vote would have be.n given without- a inument'r hesitation—But oat the fullest consideration of the et ideuce be had becu compelled In come to the conclusion, thet there was ample proof'of the mufti-int charge ; that the etilisostatial charge of an :Mill terons intercourse at, or near the time, soil with the person •Ilegrel, had been more than inefficiently and fully proved Many Noble Lords hail bail them, as he should tell them, that they thought themselves discharged from the . etv of examining the doithifnl points of the evidence•••• 11411111114., discharging thane from view, there unfortuamely reasoned enough of evidence to grimed n verdict on, not only USII ohs. 'wowed, bat not even &Kiel. If coy thing still mule eaiuful than she present result could have happeueil, and such case miles, he 'opposed, it would be Chia—that the proved or ad. misted facts were wholly tyke,, out of it, amid the verdict was to be pronounced on Otiose feels only which were involved doubt, and wily afforded ground for suspicion or preewmp toa. If three latter only were left, he slid nut ray what she &- cleann of the wow ought to lie, for be had homed no cou. elusion upon them is his own mind. If in ileciitseg on the •siestam of guilty or not godly all the admitted facts were fats& nerey,and the allthi(11".11.1111tIdonbifill once only !clients ll giving the accused all the advantage of she humane principle of English - lap, the full benefit of all doubt, there would re mein quite enough to make it a mallet of grave de liberation whet judgment ought to he given. Ilut by those admitted facts they were enabled, at least Ise was enabled, to ground a verdict oa that ease, whirls was clear and undisputed. That vise, he needed harshly to tell their 'Lordships, was the case of the poi 'ere. Hut it was not to be separately enneide.red, but to lie coupled and taken in emus-mon silk the other unitieonted Tact, he meant the extraurdismry and sapid elevation of a person from the situation of a menial servant to is place isf grebt tenet and dignity, to rank, wealth, and humour, and to bs theconstant and almost sole companion of the person en Malting lion, that person being a Princeso.--(fecor.)-es With these things were, in his judgment, to be coupled (for he knew not how they could separate that part of the orb. deuce which had not bees. attempted to he confuted, and neaiust which, therefore, there was mu presumption) the tee. timuny of *Assesses to the number of 7 or 8, speaking to minions acts of moot gross and iiideceus familiarity. He was one of those who thought that these facts were cosifirnied by a compel Mon with the circumstances arising un board the polacre. His Noble Friend (Earl (Trey, we presume) brut' had a fuller opportunity of explaining that which appeared to him to have been not a little involved in confusion in the discussions on this subject. It was mopiest• My true that confirmation of suspected evidence to whatever degree could 'never alter the nature of that evidence; but with respect to circumetantial evidence the case was exactly the revere., for in every case it was to be decided on circumstances. ased it consisted in an accumulation of *event facts, all concur ring to the same fart, slid leading to the same CIACIII6IOIII. The attention of the public had hive of late years directed to several horrid case of murder; and convictions hail taken plate on aCCIIOOi of them, tonloolitedly to the setifaction isaiikiiid, though in every case on circumstantial evidence: II was trite observation, hut nut the lees trite, that cir cuanotantial ,widener messing from a variety of circumstances, all tending the some way, and pointing to one conclusion, was frequently stronger than even the ennourence of posi tive testimony; because positive tettimony. however coo firmest, might be gruunded on fatsekennt; but the other spe cies of testimony was the natural reigll of events, mid could tart be the effect of any concert or cosespiracy. Let a case be put, that a man were forint] after a murder teserimittedi, with a bloody knife in his pocket, of the same rise with the wound, that would be a circumstance of SillpiCloll, bust it would be only one ; that hi. garments were Moody, wutel4 he toroth ; bat it could not be denied that the concurressee of both these was consistent with the perfect innocence of the rams. But, if you add to them that be WAS observed to be from home at a very unusual t at the very timeline bloody deed was pl'essetrated, these are fre.h reasons fair surpiciun ; farther, if you add to all the rest, 'that the lade iidnal iu whom all there circumstances concurred, lord been traced either to the very spot, or 'sear the spot where the murder had been committed, it unquestionably might happen that that individuel wire imiocent ; hot in a Court of Justice such ass ecesimisertioir of eietieci fees wo u ld he 'considered full and complete testimony. It had been nil shined that this individual, with *hum the adulterous intercourse had been charged, had kers made the intimate friend of her Majesty, the companion of her meals, 'the sharer of bee secrets, with the almost exelnsive enjoyment of her society. If this wet the only fact in the case, it might be said to he * strange instance of caprice, but no more—that it would he the neurotic of guilt to con strue this circumstance of itself ihto guilt. Ile admitted. that it was barely possible to believe this, though certainly very difficult; when, in addition to this, they found the same person who hail lavished sockfsvinirs, sleeping for the space of live weeks smiler the same tent with the adulterer, the tent excluding all other preemie-4111d also than the per stens who accidentally went within that place, suddenly with drawine themselves from a place forbidden to them—it ins difficult to bring the mind to any oilier conelesiore than that these cirrnmstances wit. a proof of adultery. As far as he hail ever heard that was she precise ground on DMA actiters of this natere were judicially decided. la the cohabitati )))) under the tent, there wee a total absence of ill excuse ; iii, excuse set up, be would ?ciliate to say, could be satisfactory to any isideriduel who had addressed their Lordships. But he admitted that if there was any ground on which they could snake to themselves a doubt on the subject, they were hound to give the Queen the benefit of their doubts. God forbid he should act so as to incur the charge of his Noble Friend (FeirlGrey), take all :he presump tions on hand, and exclude all those on the other ! But having given she fullest ciessideraf 'to every thing which had occurred on both sides, and having particularly attended to what haul been said by his Nuibte Friend on the stsbject of the tent, what he was compelled to confess did not carry any weight to NM, he had come to the conclusion whieb he had staled. Suppose two other persons had been found in the same state of private enlosibitati 4444 how would a person attempting to make a definer fur them set about it ? He woutil wiy, if the rhan was a person on whom the lady had as vet. bestowed any masks of favoureind if the lady had always 'comported herself towards him as a lady of rank ought to have done, there would he circumstassei • front which inno cence might be nuferved. But who was the person in this case ! That very individual who it was in proof had received proofs of partiality awl attachment almost u•precedented. The Noble Lord, after isome farther observatinns in support of his argument, expressed his belief that if the eireum slithers its this case were not held to he sufficient ground of that real presumption whirls arose from powerful concurrent cirrumetaintial evidence, this must be determined, that in no future institute where a Court should be called on to say whether adultery had been proved or nut, could such Court hold it was, unless it were estatiliated on °enter testimony—a proof which was impossible to be hail in 99 out of 100, nay in 999 out of 1,1)00 of the isms undisputed cases of adultery. With re. sped to the ;lineation of expediency, the invemigation have ing been guise through agreeably to the declared seise of the House, he knew no other cosiese which eould now be fol. lowed than to proceed with the Bill. Though he had re peatedly cast his mind on the consideration of the subject, be was nut aware that there was any tither course opens which wonlil he satisfactory is their Lordship.' own minds, or consonant to 'lse miser of parliamentary proceeding , . No man rustle honestly vole foe the Bill except with the fell and judicial sense of with neon lii. mind ; with that conviction it was perfectly compatible with their judicial amid legislative duties to support the second reading, reserv ing to themselves the right of itolgisig of the extent of guilt, and the measure of penhiliment which that guilt alsorik rd. In the Committee that miestion wonted be best di". (ermined ; out by individual opinion, hot by such an upiu ttttt , upon the nieninsre of guilt and punishment slue to it, as 'lmola he formed by a majority of the Committee. His lordship mede some further remarks upon the CK prdiesicy of proceeding, reserving Site consideration of the • Divoi ce clause and oilwr que•tions for the Cnsniniltee, and concluded by declaring 'lest great as was the danger. to the cosiutry f the (Actions and seditious hosts who were put into action by this nwasere ~,it of doors, there was has danger to be apprehended by firmly and fearlessly pressing the Bill through to the second reading. The conclusion of his Lordship's speech was cheesed loudly as he sat down. The Earl of Rosslyn rose 'mishit WWI cries of P Quer non !" He gave the highest credit to the able and mini. 'Depletive speech of his Noble Friend ; it Was impossi ble but that the aigumenti of Friend tenet bare ~ ~, 4 IA • P .' had great effect nn the minds of some of their Lordships He complained chiefly allot' speech, because it art Waled to have hero designed. from its arrangess.etitie m o ..t un; itlysees ill. uce 7tllle rates of others ratter than to expla i n l the Noble Lord's own opium,' upon the question; he was - glad of the adintssi tttt of the Aoible Lord that seispiciou• lertldence 'mold not strengthen • tivispeeted ease; he sae ready at the same time to arzue with the Noble lanai that a great reacurrence of rvidenre to the sante circolonstames, even by suspected witnes.c., wag calculated to nuke. a great ienproandoes upon their Motu& toward• a conviction of gosh. lint titer the Noble Loud hail not made a very just Rope. cation of I:es doctrine of cireunistaidial evidence. I% hell nm AretilltUliiinil even of suspirinua evidence tir,t4 prOdtiCril, till con t tg to the erstablishnielet of proof of the same guilty act, and nll referring to one peened of tne, sold sinountioz al'ogether :is a cooolchou of thei inpuseololoy of the act toot he villg been romini led—this was a diurnal ease from a number of sutpecti , l witnesses deposits to acts of the same character corn unite tu wall/ ma times sad at lit. &resit worts, scarcely one of them having been 'Token to by two of those tainted witnessuce. The Noble Loud haul quoted the case of a supposed murder, where the accused hoot hero area with an opliftell knife tey one party, was proud to leave been from home by another, and was lin able 10 account for his preience at the time to which the deed load been committed. Bnt all the different circumstances in Coat case referred to one act, and were comiected with one 'Jae -Ikeda,' time, which would render it almost inioosailde for the guili of the pre- Boiler to be 1041 (tum the discernment of the jury. If the different ClICIIMS1311Ce• were scattered over different • Imre; if one man had setts the knife brandished by the pri toner, and atwitter had proved his absence from home at any Stine before the perpetration of the art, the prosecutors would lie very justly shut OUt from giving any proof of such weelevant circumstances, even though the commission of a former art of guilt of the same nature were to he found •omng the allegations. 'tiros these nothing, to shake their confidence iii the character attest eircumstautial, inferential settee of proof which had been brought forward' His ilcirdallip pointed out I instaii!os wherein he conceived the testt 000000 iy to be wholly tainted with the suspicion of subornatiou and the effects of corrupt agency. Great re haste had been placed on the inatancts of supposed fansi• bully and indecency proved by the permed class of wit nesses. Wh those charges had been met by inquiry on the part of the defamer, they had been wholly disproved. tale. inetareed the ease of the boatman on the lake. Theie were other Walton, who conk', have been called, and wovild have establosbed the accusation had it hero f dad to truth. The Adam owl Eve story was demolished by Ike must un questionable testimony. He commented wills severity on the rorrnpt agency of Itastrlli and Ittgatiti, awl the .111111 which hail been set up for the purchase of profligat► test.- meny at Milan. He ogneal upon the right and the necessity of 'milting upon all evidence promo" by such meaus with an rye of suspicion. 7he cases of Cartarube, Catania, and Baden had bees given up, even by the prosecutors. What was to prevent suspicion from ediachiug to all the evideare of the same character, coining through the name channel. He was toil bed at the treatment of that evidence., even when it was given ; there was a degree of perfumed). in relinquishing it which he could mot account far on fair and honest motives ; so much pains had been taken to prove that, though they could nut twlirve Major-chi end Sacchi, Hommel and Itahielli were not quite so had as had Stern supposed ! How these attempt. could consist with justice and political integrity he was at a loss to conceive. Ile came to the case of the put tire, where the evidence of Bergaini having slept during a p nonage of lhirty-tive days had bee., sit much relied oil. This and the elevation of Bergaiiii formed the only allowable grounds fur the prosecu tion. He argued against the unfairness of comparing that circumstance lo the case of a man m u d woman hang in one I 00000 ae, either going turn the other). chamber without any reasonable cause which could be assigned, except the iudutgence of an adulterous inter course. That circumstance might be fair ground of suapi. cion, bat could Not, even with Bergami's elevation, a ques tion which lead been must aufairly treated, considering the evidence which hail been given in bin favour, amount to a proof of guilt. If the alleged public scandal were the grounds for passing the Bill, it could not go to • second reading. Is was plain from the evidence that Hergami's ele vation, when recent, had produced no armada', for be was receNed at nil the Courts where the Milacron visited. Had his elevation been ever so imprudent, time made a great dif ference in such matters; that which would be bandy allowed •1 first, in regard to a man's elevation,might after a lapse of time, especially if he coutinned in that elevation, admit of no question. Bergami, as well as the Queen. had been treated with due ceremony by the several Courts where he had been promoted. and it was seen that he had entered and departed some unite Solite, through which they passed with nu incon siderable parade. These things had taken place three years ago. Where was the scandal lurking all the interim • g lime Where had been the anxiety of the prosecutors to relieve the State from the scandal during the last three years ? They had been in possesniou of the facts. From Kreas's evidence it was plain that they must have known all the eircumstanees which had really taken place, immediately after the occur rence. He wished to reply to the argument of expediency in the fret place, this measure had not been considered ex pedient, while the acts were of recent commisision. It was tied thou ght expedient to proceed until three years after the prosecutors were ha posression of all the evidence and proof. It was only found expedient when the Queen arrived iii this country. Nothing could be more unfair or uupar liamentary than the argument of the Noble Lord, that it would be eapedient to pees% the Bill to a second reading—a stage which had always been considered in legiodative policy as the hest fitted to try the principles of a Bill, and the vali dity of the grounds of its alleged expediency. He protested money against the proposal to modify the preamble and co- Retineots in the Committee, as if a party under trial tehustld be told, that whereas the indictment did nut •gree with the case in evidence, that the Court, having had the case fur the defence laid open tee them, would turn round upon the prisoner, undertake to alter the indictment, and affix the penalties to that cage without hearing soy thing further on the part of the defence. If the preamble of the Bill were nut proved to the very letter, and is its tallest extent. no hottest man amid vote for the second read. ing. The Bill charged a series of adulterous acts, cover ing • great compass of time. A single act of adultery, unequivocally proved, would be no ground for passing the Bill which charged a great bee of acts tend ing to the great scandal soil dishonour of the country. The Noble Lord then animadverted in strong terms t in the conduct of the prosecutors of the Bill au4l of the Milan sits, if truth had been the rule object, would have called those respectable witnesses who were hest ac quainted with the conduct of the Princess. If ibis Bill was to be carried a, a measure of state expediency, it was to put down public opinion. The public bad judged of the evidence, and would judge of the conduct of their I/lordships ; they would also look at the pro. aerators; they would see that many of their Lordships who were acting at Jurors, were the prosecutors. Their Lorilthips ought to be saxhorn; to maintain intimpeached the character of that House, and nut to weaken the public con. fidence in their decision. If the divorce clause was thrown out, and the degradation of the Queen persevered in, thee, might she be loaded with the must odious epithets, and yet she, by such a decision, still declared to be good enough to be the wife of the King. hitch a proceeding would be onjust to the King Bost the Stale were also par ties; her Maj. sty must h, considered as Queen Consort o f the realm. Haul not the State coionived at her conduct ? Should she nut be permitted to prove that de had been per suaded, by reasons in which she hail no isitereat, to go abroad Had out money been voted for her, to enable her lit live abroad? Had she not received au Address from the House of Commons, requesting her again to travel, offering her the greatest inducements which could be heed out to renew that intercourse whibli had brought so much scandal out the country ' IVtould not all these considerations amount to an entire, complete, mid effectual bar to a divorce, if proved upon any oidinary case in the Erclesiostical Courts? 'Mete were facts, in the face of which their lordships were called on to pass this Bull of Divorce. He had only one wool mere to add. The passing of this Bill would be at . act of injustice to the• Quern, eves on the supposition of her . gnilt. If she bad been tried by an imperehasent, sad found guilty of a foisdetneaner, she wodhl'isaue had ass °ppm- 7 " _ Kts*Ttreara;=igOK'l Ili . IP • 1 ••• • • • • laity Olefin% any thing whith she epsim &l ete iu mitigation of her punishment. Were their Lordships now prepared to hear her, by hermit or her femur', in mitigation or the penalties of thus Bill He was aware that toasty Nuhk Lards wished the divorce clams, to tra ,given up, ou the grounds "(the peculiarity of her sit u . s a io „. Bat that 'would in effect be me aggress' 00000 0 rather than a mitigation of the prositties; hemmer the twotesce of dcgra• defame will place her on Ilse power of those 110 whom •Mr• c.a. hotly could lue•k for no Cas•nr, from whom male-ad bhp initiate' hardly expect cummou jaatite. fhe Noble Lord hatiNCIIIIPS INlSlSeilso•shiNg when a Mud cry was raised of " Withdraw, trafterlrotr"—" geotiu n ,, rixesiime," libels Water' for severed minutiae, anal the Doke of Chireneeiras particularly resew kettle far the vehemence of his expremauli in repeated exclamations of " withdraw," in a lulu and angry tune, as he looked te• ~de the apace below the har.l Lord Holism, raw anal mini, he dial not think there it-. shy orcemity of strangers withdrawing at the prese , ,, s. . turns, because Noble Lords were pleased to call for the lion; tor r he rightly understood *air Lordships' r• z • tom on this bead, the course would tee, first of all, Om' • . isdividual Peer would he called on h name from Ole 1,10 to pronounce his spinion of " Content" or " Not Ca/oleo, ' after which the Chancellor will declare the number, and ,f may Peer thee called furs division, of course strangess withdraw. The Earl of I.iva rpool slated, that he apprehended 'lie regular course uts this occasion, as 1,10 ell o thers t o b e . f, the Chancellor, as the Speaker of that House, to propose the question, to which their Lordships would answer in the usual way, " Conoco'," or "Not Content;' sod then the Chancellor would give his opinion, as so whether the Con trails or Not Contents had it, and if a 11;5101011 was then called for, as was must probable, the strauKera must with. draw of tourer. Lord Holland amid, that if the question were merely to he pot in the ordinary way, he tweed with the Nob e Lord that 'strangers moat eventually withdraw on the division. Shinto-re then withdrew at three o'clock, and the House proceeded to vote WI the second reading of the Bill. At twenty-five minutes before four o'clock the state of the voles was anuoitared— For the *wo o d rending of the Bill Agaiort it Majority in favour the Rill....TarViTY-rICIIT'" Adjourned till ten o'clock to-morrow/ mui iti ng LIST. MAJORITY AND MINORITY On the second reading of the the of Pains mid Priinitirs, in Vie uriler in which they were !cod yesterday its the House of Lords:— CONTENTS FOR TUC BILL. LORDS. M ',Wigton Ringstou Bridgewater Prudhoe Napier St. Germ i ins Hum, Harris Colville 111 , 11W1110 ..,/ Huniingdnii Koss(Glasgow)(:ray iThitwordi Meldrum Saltuun Ver 'slant Manytutsts (Abuyne) Forint' Cathcart Got) li 04111 Hai Mulgrave Thu:Hon.! C hermere station. !misdate liirailkiit Hopetoun Cork Orford Anglesey Gambwr Laodaff Manvers Nu. tlianiptini Mummers Peterborough Nelson Camden Ailseo(Camilis)Gloncester Nun Exit,. r Lauderdale Chester Liverpool Cornwallis Shcfficid Ely Ltighy Buckingham Kedesdale St. Ampli MontilEtlg- Lothian St. Helens St David's cumbe Queensberry Northwick Worcester Strange (Athol j Winchester Holton Loittlou Abergaveney Kayoing Ailesbury DUCES. Carrington A/stay/ITS. Bathurst Weliongtoti De Dunstan.. Exmouth Chatham Noithumber-. Tulle Lake Harcourt land Runs Sidmiluth Warwick Newcastle Saltenford Melville Portsmouth His t land (Cuurtuaris) Curzon Graham (SI on-Idessiturt Stewart of Gar-Sydney [roar) Lord P. orySeal lies (Gallo- Falmouth Pomfret Wel4llllo. hind , Way) Hereford Macclesfield Lord PrellldrllE Stuart (Moray) Ayleaford (Harrow:by Douglas (Mor- EARLS. Coventry Archbishop of tun) Limerick Rockford Tuam Grenville Ross Abingdon Chanoetlor Snffield Donoughtnore Shaftesbury ',LitlNo: Montagu Delmore Cardigau ArehlnV , .p of Gordon Mayo Relearns 1 - I;:terunry (Hastily) Longford Witichilses Clarence Somers Muuutcashel Stamford 1 n k Rodney NON•CONTENTS AGAINST THE BILL. LORDS. Foley zant.l. &wherry Ilreada !bane Hawke BleAtntois Jersey Eroki 11C Sum!ridge (Ar. Caledois Albemarle Arden ROI) I. ikillen -Plymouth Elleubmough Dune Farnham Eosex Alvanley Hulloed Gumboil Thauet Loftus (Ely) Grautham Carrick DeubigS Fitzgibbon King Morley Suffolk (Clare) Clifton (Darn• Mink, Pembroke Calthorpe ley) Haiewou4 Derby Denney Howard, of Grey (Dowse) Effingham Romney nalltQUlSte Yarborough 144ye.and-Ss le liosslyu Bath Dundas Dacre Caroarvun Stafford Selma &eche Maashrlil Lausdown Mendip (Clif- Clinton Fortescue deo) Audrey Grosvenor imams. Auckland De Clifford Hillsborough Portland Gage Belhaven (Dowisahire) Brandon (Ha- Fislierwiek 1):-la-Warr iniltuis) (Dmiepl) VISCOUNTS. I Icliestcr Devonshire Amherst Granville Darlington &Arun! Kenyon Anson Egreinom Grafion Sherburne Duncan Fitz.' ilium Richmond Berwick Hood Stanhope Somerset Ashburton Enlister Cowper Archbishop of Begot (Duke of ) Dartmouth York IValsingliam Torrington Oxford Gloucester. Dynevor !Mt tsgbruke The second title affixed to several Peer' is that by which *h.y are generally tauwa. Of the Majority of 28 to favour of the Bill- Two Princes of this Blood, holding bigb offices at pleasure Cabinet Ministers, avowed prosecutors to this access lion Persons holdidg office. dependant on 1114 . 1. 1 Archbishop of Canterbury, who prejudged the Cam. by erasing her Majesty's name front the Liturgy .... I Three Peers who attended the Prom-cation, and ribvent far the defeucc: the Deka of Neweamk, (amts Howie and Sheffield . .. _,, His Grace the Archbishop of ToAm has been plenserl, %Ix linden:mud, to present the 1101,0(1111 1 )1e and arr. CHARLES LC POCH TRENCH, Rector ~1 Brllll'B'4oe, to the Union of Granata, nt the Dio cese of Ardegh, vacant by the death of the K r , rend EDWARD BERWICK; and his Grace, by ta tue of the right, or courtesy (ati know sot which it is). that glees to a Prelate the nor ll i ll ation to tlw VA casscy which he mats by preferring the Incum bent, has been also pleased to present the Reverend CHRISTOPHER KODINSON In the Union of Ilia tholoe, w the Diocese of Clonfert. In these ap pointments Its Glace has afforded another gratit) - ing instance of the principle by wh.ch he - versed.—.(Mayo ( oseslifmtion.) . EMI OW e 4aji