The Sun. — London, England, 1807-08-08 00:00:00

The Right. Hot..CiAntienun , . ~ not assert any 'differenceott. his part from, his foravr titateMent; for helial hCit yet SPokA I .I-11)didr;ay th:lf gi'eat 'expel ations of pecunkii-raila tarraid_frw Ua were entertainetl:liy the flied'A eOwers. ki . ations held out mi_ght hare been .excited ; 440' T.lycom'eounleationsirom-flis Majse•Ay's Ministers here, to the Ministers . of the Allied Rowers to his Majes'iy's # Cqurt, or they ii aybetotutnunieated. by nOr_floSidert Alinisters at theCottrtl of the Allied powers, in their conferences with the Minisiers of thoiePowers.T . he course- of the Foreign Office combined these two modes of transaaingibui,idos4., Tile Right lidtionr ahle Gentlemen: opposite first tlqew our. ,a general challenge to alledge any (*Ate particle of promke of itid, and then, when ne promi'se to Sweden was cited,. the Noble Lord'opfiolte*cit down 'and con firrned the fact, .and t , Moth. G4htletriah 0pp04.40., triumphed in, the confirMati on . 'He 141 , 1 now t( re- state the fitat with ti), a6i hority of t .le .ord. The ...agile tlilltire of a contingency, .4)ich one Power could consider as' arrived,. aro, another,,sis not arr4ed, warranted him, iii the argument that 4) leave. the terms of the aitangement was the sure way of exciting' general And large: ex -4:leCtations. - t-1 repeated, that great.:expe6iatibui of • military aid were entertained, tis 4 gnly by L Slvecien . , • but by .and anii this latter. Power iias warranted in the expeAatii)n . by tha . t eritista Resident' Miniaer (Lord wnted _ . not - say that this expedatiou :wpm; as ; to, look for,a jiritish the line of tite,Russiln and Prussian armies. The objeas ltu.iia and Pru , si.t bht~ ht wOold: be hest . pillnititeidiliy - the , co-opet . atioti . 'of titk : English s foree wit 11 wvtien, nt ere;atiag.it d i ver- Sion on toe rear of tlie Vritch armies-, ilci sa.t , no c)hjihn to' the prositt;fitni Of the comparative Ac-7 etAllliti at the Cthilitlt'lletNlWllt. :of the' we t lru present Administration ; .bdt it, was -uot!!eitougtt that 111,.• tine Government .had left .w,large ,general supply of min.:ports, . as those emplove499 dislant sert,ice, su c h as the EXpeditlint to - Buenos' SINS and Egypt, ..were nothing, •to the . pre4ent 'puttiosei 4- he paint in - question was the eAistence of a sudio - 44. supp,y for tratisportit* troops to the; Continent, . that shoaLl be judged necessary ; dta would iinz 211 ow that 110 preparai i,nt 'might to. be made till: the • e;lgency should bitvearriVed: He had heard of hold . invaders who bad 6urned their transports of effeet ing a landing, in order to render it more indispensable, to conquer; but for a NAtion that intended to send ass.tstance to..otnit providing - transports, was the • strangest' proceeding ever known, and•retnained for the invention-of the - H o n:Gentleman opposite out. • Mr. WINDHAM; in explanation; said, belpOke particularly .tlf trutsfiZet tOOnage .iturnediately:dis poseabie tor 6erviee, of which the late ( . -itA,,ttiment itad left more than it had re‘%-ivcd. No cO A '.i.ered ships had been rettised ; tione had been clischirged, He admitte.t that aid to S,‘ eden ;night have tetrve4 litissitt and Prussia. But %clot he complained of was the difference in• - the stalei - nettts. Tice coll,inency fOuld hotehtne oa withOtlt'not ice of its appr unless the lateMittisters shOuld have been surprised, as the present Ministers admitted they were, by the events on the COntinent. • Dr. defended the late iviinisters , ligainst tile charge of hold no; forth .expeca ittol,-s, and 4 . inlitig to fulfil therm 11 t:KpeLIMOI) were hi:l,l .forth by our iins ens to the. Court , of 411e.Kiiv;pf Sweden, ,Or our Monsters to the other SoVereigis, where were the ithartictions 50..? .1i 'was desiranle th.tt ail the fairing to the Sub= jt'et shoulatte I.ri. - Jttuced, • and he iih: - reasoll why they should not, as . liqlitteoh'vtlitience...could arise • , • Iroin the ;ptiolleatiksi,ot slietn i as!ntatterS-noCie -stood on the Continent. , • Mt c 1 11i 111'C3 again..asiertedi• that. by the ton • . • , ttitsii6hof I be- Getti lernett , oppos , ttr4 , e xpe..tat ton, ha d been entert.iitted' by the contineirtal rdwers 'of sistanee Cnsettt-ellfty. • . .;) i t atty.' c.'?tidi . tio.tti.,..Orat . Via way I? • bc . r.keti... • ' 7 - tr ad' O N cortHod,..that..4ht.e . .X.igenciek 4 13F:the soot : :th4: 6 - eii . tOetice • P, A lli i ced•4o. 144. 4, tjemiy t - he, vo lt. ,ctf - ;R 'S -14(4604.i. -Oew nich.,a;lN oble ' Lord .(Lord • "IfY) i'outplohled. : .11V 7 ..,,condT,Intted iii strati pusitiltianity••••'of. .:Ivlajesty I, lf ' Mi-• ~i ' L i " lersju thei r conduct lb 91k.tri'•piescyrit of ihiiioountry. AtiieriJa was to ttributed.to thatptonduct, 4 - ' 9 "kii.g.ai4kthat.shuationoted 1t,01014,1 at the is NlUTti:of the C:eitilent;•'fie ias ti ti d That.'olQ; •cntlbtietice wliich was relayed ought to be placed in. "°i'uthritent. fle'reeoluilietided, that the Volunteer' A it...ysterniShould,hre bents orgauisett, and also•lthat 4fie *aining Bill should ,be pur.inna ictivity ; 'Which lath . ter Measure, when considered. , with- resatil.to the • other measures of .military defence, I)c3 ,c:out-pared 'to 'the basket. of a • stage-coach. Ater roprishatibg the .11p! conduttof the late Minister t 's I heir transadiohs with • the late Continental Powers, he•advistid that all - re , trimination should he abandoned; and that every -ileart r hand, and bead, should be united at' this criti . • cal period, in the defence of the Country, 'irfr•IIIBBEitT defended - the. late llinisters on • he stihjed of not having provided_ transports. Tlie statement of the Right Hun. SecretarY. that Protniiv s of assistance . had been given to the Conti . tental Powers, had now dwindled' illta:lfi4 • fad, Oaf . the Continental Powers entertained expeLta -410115 of assistance. • Alr. Rose repined; • .• . Mr. 11 1 ,11i1) observed that if the late Gov:ern— ' pent had been uilty hf holding out expectations which they had not realized-=-if they had made pro anises to the Continent of contin B encies, and when those contingencies arrived) had violated their pro ' inises, it was the business of the 'present Ministry, instead of availing thetuselvet of 'such occusations•in . empty declamation, to bring forwitrd pruof, and to givq the House an °ppm - in:l4Si of deciding on the subject. • ii/r, 'PM. SMITH, adverting to.that part of an Baroneei speech, which related to .An.leria , trusted that Government would udt.be attuated by a.Apirit similar to that.of the Hon. 'Baronet.; but that ;it the . pr e - eu t - difficult ci rcu msta nces , they kottitl nse t o, l :kme t a the la ng oake' at •MOderation. 'flo k opp, rtunity o f expressing his te : , ret, that the Training hill was not . to be put in'actiNitv until tl . .e next Sts+ r n 'of Parliament. i hu Wit 3 ttfea read tht first time l an d sst4 • ;la -,•• • I On the Motion timt.th i is tie r the title.of the titl, " • • , eee .• ' ,• "-72t/F.: 5 177t/tßi?g,lD'ebserved, that • the charges •: derred; by the . Right dentlentati against his 4 nbie Relative, ,%yere.: of such magnitude, that he ‘iikliga to be diStinaly stated. Was the charge specifically this- 2 -that late XidV'Mi'ststteion had • • promised. -to the Kiug :of Swedeiyan assistance of cavalry on contiencies,,-ned,Nelleu, those contin•• gencies occurred,: the cavalry ti.tis not sent. lli3 ought'to beitie'dited into. The Right Gentle-•• man had .als6 stated'hypothetioally;'.that ii contin gencies had ariseu,,the late, Government would have been 'unable their ten - raver:tenet ? hiS ought also to be inquired into; ibr, if it - eouid be 'proved: .that his Noble. Friend' had • held out • ~,such promises, and violated them e he m ould _be pytived uniii for his situation, and in t that case .his crime • (ight' to be known• and puni s h - ed.— . The Riebt Hein, Gentleman '.further stated, ileat specific promises of assistance had been wade tel Sweden, Russia, slid Prussia He w:shed. to kno..e what promises to Sweden, eke pt 6r money for ang ! Menzing leer force--a prof:disc Which had:been' cal . . , rigid, jqtaetfed by the presetkt Administrhtion. . Ai •to Preisia, it was known what had been granted by, the late*Adatinistratloit. - and what by the present. Where, was the promise ioleted ? With regard to Russia, the only assistance: .demanded by her was to negotiate a Joan ;with this. Country, which the late. Adiiiittisiration refused, but. which the Rightifonourable Gentleman. s'aid, he should have seceded.to. That :this refusal. was •Most ap-- , peered to to be indisputable. Let the ceun- I 'try teeollea. the ,i\averiati Loan; and the sums which had been paid fay - 6 , 1‘ - ing . facility' to it Nregotiatkm.• As,to any inenary'asststance tax Russia: and Prussia, indepeitleut of Swede°, .the ll,igo lkott. Geutlemen . Vad _reduced his accusation to a were expectation en tertained those 'VOA ers. On the whole, tie thought itineunthent-on the Muse, to entertain the subjeet by : itself ow some spea: : day., that these ae eusations. reigut : he to a-pone, and that it Might lie ktie':vii 'nee,- Lir Inc Ijitii'MiiiiStry 'Were. ac- : cessary to the rtecetit dise.ters the Corn ;'and hOped.:thai . e; the t.ietalemen.: opposite Would air arti the means oh,' eteclua tit lg. the.sehjeet by laying - on the table the correspon lenee hi' their possession.: The RightlHon;Gehileinan stated; 'that, one ot t 'Otir Ministers abroad ; expressed: his oPinion. , that 'ex; peclatlons of , assistance had been' exeited., llid he mean Leld lititeinnson ? regard to the as sertions. ot those sedio were' lately "our allies, ' Reid wile: Were tiew t he le red, our enemies, was it not likely that they would liken theinselvespfexaggerst e , Cd eta:emeots agiinst Ehetaild, to encteaveur to clear ihemseli'es from the odium of the:trabSaetidniiiit9 which both, of at least onti,.Of those Powers had fe et:ll6y been ho - ,7ed ? • C.,-/N.SIIVG explained what he. had said the other ev'eeing un the Russian Loam A:Noble Lord opposite. (Lord Petty) !declateil his objections to ,no.4t 4 hieature,in vet y stroog'terms, and ell - that hu ha 4 sl,lted wa . s,, that lie wai.not so averse f ront It as the Noole LOrd. Now with respect to brina ing the , stibj'etit w hich • the tion.l;entictnan hard detailed in , disfintt soape before.. Parliament, for the purpose ot calling tor their judepeni, he L•filw how they were 'to': be brought for ward. Were 11.:e Op:X/ino. to itninni: gross Miscooduct to" his Majesty's &misters, by con , irasting their proceedings these • t teeii- pre, decessors, and were .0 'Maj., sty's to . precluded' trout Is4,ittrig, defe=nce of theinselvett, thele:opinion..iif the proceedings of .their predeeei.: s"s‘i unle s they.urig:llated•'a'ci,arge4g . aitist- them He. 'denied.,thus. ile,i :es; aecurding to the tion. ,Gentldnian's statehe these charge:i would.atnOunt to- a of crone. All-that had heOn said :eitp was, that the,hite Qnveriumpt, noting to the . best.,of their judgment,. had. pot }feted for the betiedt ot - the Country. :This had' been torted from his Majesty's Mitirstea . S . in theti - own de ' te*,'inld. they were no .v 'called upon' to make it iota gritund,Pf a:cpargt.e .. ,lf the exertions pt the pre scat . .N.liniSters had been too: hue, ,vere bo.ind • . • to- State that it vas be, cause 'their pietleciti'suri'MJ ' left then - 1 without the means offuakittgeertier t7tfovis, ' Mr. that-fee 11:eht tL it. ;Gontle,tnau hail • thc . iat„ , .11,111 . 1611-• Sn - diiorlwithme're, waet of ability, h.tt with tcriiainat violation • , . • Mr. , ' C'Afit , i6 and xi". WIII:I3ReAD metually • • : .. • Ale: tkiND FIX.? Maintained, that distina a breach of prom 4e had bet.ll made by the fight Liett.:Gehtlemen, and that.he was . hottfid to .charge, itelefee kei could pro% e that the feidittts.•ol.ld;ikine it_gotel Were so 'con fleet .with the secrecy in smile , eases uecessery to the public service • that, they yeght not .to - • • 1 , 14)111•OfiierVed, that the pre .ient discussion came wan a very had grace trom an Hon. Gentlenew WhObirclaarged his' Majizsty's nisterS, on n turroer occasion, with,not haeieg e (emer seht 0 Sweden, or other, parts of the Cieitineht, .the t: - tree whlth ‘N'ts diet) etubie king. C.itild Miniters do let.t4 than s'tafe ) that - ' Were their inipiesSion!eVer, ' so strong of the'necesSity.of the measure, therhad been,pmcluded from an earlier recurs ice to it, by: the total neglect of heir predecessors. No . specihe charge had been made, but it had beeti MerelyStatedi that the late Minister; were culpable in plloWing pettations togrikw . up; and that one Putser.(S , ,yedee) had complaitied of the disappointment ot!thoseex . pedations. Adverting to the gee:aloe of Transputts, he obserVed, that 'the interval between-. the wish to obtain Tiansports,,and the, power of obtaining them, Was much greater . than what scented eeeerally to be i`iinagined. Horse Traesperts, iii p.iTtictilat,,totpd not be expetled to 'be in the Downs in less than . threeweeks after :the tenders had been aceepreil, every one accustomed to thee , tl . lsjecis knew the ilkdinegS ' N . Vial which these tenders were Made. fl thought the policy of the late GovernMent fUnda ' mentally wrong; that they hatrabade.up .their middn to atibrd.no assistance to the :Pentleental: .Powetesi' :and therefore tbet, they had managed badly to inspire L=spectatibn orassistatici. , Lord IMAI,RY PETTY reprohated'thir shifting pf t . he c groutid 9f accusation,! from.general: promises ,• to specific premises, and again front specific pro.- rinses general prothiSes:;• Wilde iili • the time the present Ministers possessed' the doetiments,by which blurt: the trgtlz or: the' falsehood of :their- clnfrges could • be established. . , the .EXCIL6QVER Said, i was clear that . the'tict was admitted, that att,tik • • • - peowion ha . ,17.te1l ralso, : :-2t least- la . of military aid frotn this conutry,.in sz!,yairr,,o;; . cortilin. contit)gencies:. .IN:hettier or. not t t'it's badoccurred Oyu; a, mutter of opinion, and nt,t a subject on which a criminal cli.itge cnold he re-: ,ferre,d. Shp-poso ;hp contingeticy had ,been, 11. t Aistance would .be 'afforded in case the 411i03' were pl ace d in such a situation as to be enabled to rmite tOrward movement against the enemy— W. r:o.t this sittlaljon matter of opinion ? and pot one Power assert, while another de;:iod :t, Wrihnever ditliilrence of opirdoo., ther.%,fore, thole Might ge=ms to the policy bf the late .Poveroment, thnre certainly was no growth(i - for a distinctcrispiiiiil • Alter some nbserrations by Lord FoLg.TrciNs Dr. L.:itENl.:44', the title. was agrced to, and- .1:;NI was. ordereal to, the Lords. . . 'On the MOtigil of Lord ,C . ASTLF.REAntt, a return was ordered to be laid-hefore the of the amount of the tonnage of tr.lnsportsin hi; Majesty's ere art the Ist, of March t 30fj, and on t!,e th of March, t do 7, U ingehisihithg thOie !mine front those on foreign servizethose coppered from those shcathed,and those ongoeit for three nionths:froin those engagett for six..months : an account of the tonnage of transports - for .homa service on the I.7)th -of March 1307, enchisively of. these for the, current home service, „distinitlishing the, 4avairy . transports from the utlisra . ,. 41sea Copy of the Letter Iroin the Secretary of the Treasury to the Tnnsriort loard, „dated the of, January, 1807, direeting the p:tying off of the Tr-nisports. . Toe Writs Bili,yas read a second time, and or derod to be Coininitte4 oa M.Oday. • Mr. LONG mth'ed the third reading of the Irish Arms Bill. --- Ltd WLTON, thought that without instituting an ingi'fify, - Without a Committee of the House.',.it uno6ustitutinn3l to enact such arbitrary and co ercive laws. The'Unien had beeivacceded to by the kish with the hop that the rights of the '1W() Coal trivs Would be asSinoilated'. pre;jot_ had been defended Of aleterence to the Ad for Di- arming. the Hightands of Scotbind, but he contend ed that the one had no similarity to the other. He truste4 nsorne'ftittire.pericid the situation'. of Ireland would be ameliorated, and that the Catholic part of the population would be restored to thoSe rights froni which ,they have, been so !wag debared. ikirLUSiIINGION had cnnsidered the question with.all possible attention, and.ho was sorry to con fess, that in his opinion a necessity existed for it. He therefore gave it i>ii rehitlant assent. Mr. 1 ) _61 JiOO.U, declared, that in a free country, even on the bot evidence of the necessity Of such a Bill, there ought to be great jealowv and great deliberation before it passed into a - law: Look» itig beck ,at _the history .of Ireland during ,khe . , whole of, the present reign, nothing was to ,be. seen but a iyStem ofd tee.rcion and corr.:Ong Mea-, sure 4,, by whfch. the Irish biid been forced-into tur bulence, and ibis, notwithstanding the gracious re corn ixiendation fro:lA.l.lle Throne, tit nn early period of tile' reign, to conciliate the minds of the Irish . people. He regretted that a change of Ad;ninistration always produced.a.change of iiirasnres -in Ireland. Under Chesterfield, Fitzwilliatn, Cornwallis, and Bedford, Ireland N't-zir-trstiqui) and iticlutiriQw:. Under other LOrds Lieutenant she. was inactive and diserdeivd. There:was no evidenCe of the nmessity,t& the pre ; but, if the necessity did atlinaliy then the Bill did not go fir enough. He theretOre Moved, th:rt it be read a tbird•timo thftt - dity'thri months. Ii'HITIIREAP contended, that law oppres4ve, aad. N.voald b€' OA, lx.C l i t is t r',, t 116S;c,' per:1011S who tn;ght• be incliner:, toc(inceal their antis would not be'aileiied .by h, mul th, ) , ; _ t . w h o Were well. atfecteil. wools!, ,putting tli force al,r,:linst tli.v l ), be . 1 . 0 94 . 1. 0 disiart4tetl. H n paiculitrty ohjetlied to the because Old Clau:::e tir rol niu.n..; 'the . attendance lof. Alagistr,ll - 6.s at--thee tittle r,ftn:tking•the search for arnts had' been whole., as the. reasons againq the%Bilt prepon:ljr i tteki • against thciie for it, he hhoola vote aaio,t tile. Bill. . _ . Sa . A.aTfiutt RIGOTT considered this As a mea swo,lo authorise ( . ionticiliary visits at a:I hours of the day and night, and,.. as no proof 11,4 beti . prodnoed - cif the liceassity." 4 adopting' it, ha' should vote ag,ainst it. . • ' ' . '.I , - , 1:11c. lion. "ILA"; LT517.45 .D1L,4",p4V.--" Mr. *taker, was t in this stage* 40 contay.ti against the principle 'of khis Bill, it would require. Ilia lab , iur.. or inquiry to p'!....,.e it a direcl infringement and i 'cottiplete violation Of ti,e Bill of it:iglus. But in dkctising the present Inca sure, suyiendinc , as it t a• , aofs the most sacred and indisptitahle :fights of SUbjca, I pronOutice it altogether unnecessary- ht my Country. For the last" live years. its policy ha.s . been tried, and there is nothing in the liktory of that period to rncommend its cc.tutintian:..e.' 'l'he Indiscretion of the IriTh Alagistracy has, in some. cases, calluti f.r and seliCited ioi .operotion ; and there is a circunistance,, which .1.f40.14 iii ' [limy . to : iumiress upon tl;e Molise,. that at the on::- , pe.riod 1- cluring„ the patriotic Atlinitiktrati , ..in athe i)'..ike Of ;.116dford, when this •• 13i11,Was called 'info op_ttation; !, it was so called, by the Magistracy, without , the country being previously proclaimed hy the Lord i Lieutenant, as this l',.i.y .All of Purlia;nt,tit ,re t ciared and. dire'aed. \\ ill then the House, upon . 1 `l . I t ar')und . ' br as in the prestint case, ri!p),l tiii! ,stg 1 „., t 4, . ~ absence .of all proOf„deprive tUe:people of Irtiond" of the rights of the Colk4titlittOti ? 'Will they.coin i mit tb the caprice .of individuals, a power.so ,Uil:i 1, mited, over which there is aG.CO:istittlll.olldl .cpn- I : trbul;at the.seme tin* that it is liable to ~ .:och Iris ', chievinis abuse ? Does th state cit . IRA,lll.littitify' it ? Of 'lily . •part -01' the Country I cut s speal; 1 with confidence, and canfurther edduci: this sti.,4l. 1 1 and conchisitselaa:to fortify that opinion that at . i n P . the bite 44SliFS the: Circuit' includes a 1 ctiitt Puttion,of the Western part of iteland, there ~, i have not' been More - thatt'seven capital :convietions, and amotlgst these , conviaions, , there. was not one I . person tried for ,any _tiring bordering . , on a trea. sonable ottence. - What .proof , more ....convincing of the state of that country,? What morn mont-iNscyable objetliisn to the AincoNtitutional.and intuccessary innovatiottcon the' rights, of the .irifi people .i' The 1 - tase , should recoliett the s4ntiment.m theseyered 1 Kilwardott o ,.whett tht... hi,:o.iing vi , ;..tita of that .cora ispir;.;ey'contlated ‘;by- t.b., . ili-titik,Ni..ciltiAti.s.:A - Etn.- mett. "7111-t :not the Linerties of ,ray ::041..itt,try, be i inspzuded (said he) tit csiaccitizlio: of •;-! y :0..41-d-ci., { • t 1 I i r,et - not 't , a fhb pf - etet of Tights. of th4ipet).;•Ale.'., It' t1)'':1, at a 0,- ; sod" iealon,sy oi invading . the,:riglps ot Js; t.sask to (.4 .. .crate, jas,i';!e c:sit hss uistsits, L th;s 6.1 ciaillity; force forwar..l.4 . gilleassure (I .019 li . oorties., ,salety, and ses..drity, ssq whose innedi.ite iuterest4 ansi Char.scter are 'Nvitil the prosperity 'of thin. 1 qns.tst.• •Ayhich.now etiga4eS the Iri.h feeling is not . :>tlll upon speculative points' of (...iovertinient, It ii,rut tioi,i; sin anx : iety.to . prosnote /\.gr,sr,i in Law, or to, de.kise the best prat:Ale:this! means of ad:alit:Mg stich a . principle. It is twrely obtain for the poppie . of Ireland a .pirtleipation of Loose rights,' to, winch * as men, they are entitled, s and ±..v hie!), its British SubjedS, they, might to enjoy: p, nounce the policy which C3lCULiir , ..l to 1.- .ist the just . claims of .res.tson and tilts Irish p.siplei rUnder Such impressions, it Wssulti ineoliSistent not to vote tot the Amendsllent of . loy tioflour,stild Friend" (Mr. NIoore). . „ Boer.: GEORGE PONS6IVI3I',—i( ,Sr;• 1 riso to declare my £lcciJett oppo.itioii to tine priliA.:t r Al,. this ill. I catildnoe'reco)iciie it ts.i.siiycon: i ' e ly oc , s i tacitly to hear such a .Bill _passed, bitten .10 gs wk; my assent to this wartlol),•lnieaise(l-i.v , 011:1 cal suspension of the constittnion in state of Ireland is the ti,:st answer to tAxt.t necessity . . It is bcith loyal arid tranTiss ; and s chafges which have. b.:Lni made, aril olcoerclo,l founde:l -upon these 1 . regret I call it a ealuninie.ted assd. S..nne Ciinnties hart.- I.:14.0 wit:, of insiarre,`:tilin is aliei:lgeit ; t: it.tvAf. itself. 'The coutily cif Tipperary fias been pars 4.4i latly.rjentioned. 171 11;,\Ve1•, that frumthe most aoh:cyi, r• such statements to be h.); ti isseos-s-5.,.., and tio sotto.]: ti S /.113.11. . ;7\1:: yon, sir , :ti".: called upon by xi:111)5f lite genets' vOice of he Genilealen 011 0dp651,: qt 4.+ttie, 10' put, pr rasher to get rid s' of fill did still hop. 2 that,the . the Crown; when they werent4de,Fcquainsed witff,the's:ariefy 01. 6 10 t ments which haVe fieen iny Friends; Wilo preeei.li.d• rue, awl if they Were trait; as they to bfaii.Strssek with force cogeny of, t 44 . in .2,1)1' Elonctur:. able ; and I..eart)edFriend, .A , ..siss.sr Pigott) thed woe.lLl,sat iti.c,endeseetision, 11 endeavoured either to co;nelde With, ,or to answc.T them. It, upon formera oce a Sign, w hen a 811 of all iinalo,:s.;citis - n.t. Lure vas before the fioUse,,,eritially viotstiing the Constitutiun, and susp2ndsh 6 r,the at the Irisli Peopier, I holdly declared my opinion of it, ay all ° uo- 's .4 Ond upon the, feeling, ot that Cuilotry, With what patience can I.cLinsi l der the precut mea. o.inpised with the.contedipwous brute cif the King's Alin:titers upon. it, Can. I cons , ,Cia it but - a 9 ad outrage, as - tin , :insnit., not not.only,upolf the' irknds,of that Couss,ry, bit upok overy,mati who` Woltiti attempt to decleie illi opioiotl hdstile to their.intentions and views upon t hat 1),0 , 61) , 4 and too long calumniated C t ;Utitry,', It to sotti minds the recommendation us a` more salutary I;(1;icy had the probability of success, I would auvise them to reffeateforo they 'persisted in putting into exc.. cution the rash determination of governing a proud, but loyal people, - by the suspension of ettay blessing, 'and , the. viojatiou of every t_sosstistitsurial right. It wati inice the glory ofEn ;.. i,ii.ininc.ti to A,Ae. mand a Government by law. It Is late bie policy of British INltnisters to prefer 'to Coat t.;;Ac yertinwitt by law, a govertni)ent.tbr torte. 'Ili: lat. portance of ireland, 1,0 toxin With tnc• terCSIS Emiare is w cit:ity.,. no 111.2.11 si) rittiotortt)e,l. ,too in t ifttn,:d to dispute ; yi tt it pb;>iiblo to rtsAntnie Oh* cbadtvt ilt the ni6t.ers with tt,4111 - ,&to that peop.e ? tben::)l.lent:6 wiA h respea to isle yioionce of tile ine.ssnses ark, precipitately urged.; utile::,s we attribute it to ,t 40 - ol ignorance. 0.1 . , teat Country which, they are upon to govern, 'and m itit whose views rhey pro. less to be so intitnntiy netikniintett NV;1 0 11 any, one of the King's 7 .'sitssii.ters a‘lted, what is in e , neitessit':„. for these coercive meitSllres"w;,ich Ireland? Crum bit reuses do they origina te , or b y what occurrences tiwyjustified? tinsWer is, ." We have boon told of th e ir necessity.. We, the. Servants of the crown, and the pet SOBS V. ha dire6t il4novernment of the Countr).; art: 40 0.17 tinacqu:thited v ttli the 'state lead cosiditien of Ire. Lind. As to, ourSOVeS, about it, they responslthe for t!AeAr expectients,,,Dth them recTeLA. t i 4 L their an t e of fhb condition 'of that 'couniry liowly cor t npansate tor „Lie Cil lnd.sy„sten W 1.3 t t,0,41.! they.. flat resorted. '421 - tht:rn, as conlesseily tiorant, lcatn .to • bc ditlidctit, and linniediately.witii dniw.the.•license r.otintiit I . . a people tilurckred. The isilinistet: edthese ektrionlipary extrava.;:tr to themie!ves.. They have sapereded s to, vct upon their own arbltn - ay. And a Member or p4t,ii,:roon:: t. 4 1,61-1 to :Ain, or . ott..:.r-s to tineiri.s s.,iderts;s3i') (etl. aga'nst the nit :us . s.proposcd, tLe Go f.;')‘,.ln. ;;I:, • ti : . ;IPA it 7 • • : • • ti.o pn• :; a 4111 alre;slxy t:ilt;t tis by the le ire, 4liki for 'the passing ;.if wls .L ii the nee , .li.esiny it WOUid bet.tt At 'A, Ht l 2) it-tees fail'AAL,lA.txl : , , ar.ll of bc,ii,tt. r i' L A sotli , A ; ; . —A.lrotb their cu5t01ut;d140,4; , .... liol ttisst • 11)011:Wiiiii.OGgtOil . '),, l I“;nit, clog:L.llre, , upsift that side 4 , ,thp .171,0ti,a.5. Indeed it notl;in s ,s; but, gross and Comp et igtmraneeof fo r hot yet !:c.:l- 1 ,, tipo:t occ-sA., , ns, 'a !At!! cicantity 4 pt.susi;,,in.• the species (it waieh tisl:4 Ints:lsuro has recetvd trOm . ..a 1.1i4 1A Hotionr.ll,lct Genilernan, not now' in. his paste( . .Nlr. 6rattae), thoughjta::tly entitled as heis to the esteem and titude of his country, I never can'conetir--sd cannot, in my . .conieience,.leng itiy :stvvor to a spirit s Yf coercion against Itelath.l. cannot approve a syittln, which, - ortgina4,- bad, the hittory of• the last leuss tocm year! has prOved to be both mischieVous mitt inefficient; and that is contradicted by everY which ought to be evidinc, in itsstavoui. flavo Eloy of those .personq vvho ;Ire constitution:illy reiii t ni. Bible :I'l4r Pleasure, rualifugy tome forward avoure4 its necessity : ? iiktkany Member on the ti4ttititiVi36n:it cvel'otiertd iiil3 . oWl4 prlYil4;