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~' 1 P k i • • • raw X d►`, • swore that the state of Ireland had at length aroused some degree of attention, and that a mes , • sure of some kind might be expected; he knew that it would be said also that the Noble Lout at the bead of the Irish Government had soot been there long enough to resolve on any generally effec tive measures. He had, however, - been long enough in office to have founded a very.mund lectsve epitoion on the necessities of Ireland ; e tt i l sided, - the other branches of Administration were not unacquainted with the condition 'of frets tatf The.Hurne Sterretary could not be very strung* to ; those afileirtr; he must have discovered Some, or causes of the evil, and was well enough. onspeeienced to he able to point out the re. windy which ought to be applied in the tie or seven. years which had elapsed since the observation which be had edverted was made by the Noble Lord. . In the same 'wet the Noble Lord at the head of the Treasury had swayed the House that the Guerra. • moot had the Irish affairs ander conrideration—thet • site tithes, they had undergone consideration par-. • tieelsrly, and that although great difficulties attech-: ed is the subject, the property of tithes being upini the same fording in groglend and Ireland, yet them were oirowassiesces which, in the then condiiitn, of . behind s would justify some interference. and IN • ••:lisps new modification of them in that country. Ap o sin years had elapsed, it was to be expected Ask what was then in coutemulation woo now ready ti. he plain progreissioa. That which M had to pros post -was, that the Legislature hiving concede estremelniary powers to Government three mond), Una', to ewable them to repress insurrection, te wet dews outrage and restore tranquillity, thet - were now no less ready to examine into the state of .the °awry with a view to the adoption of measures • of conciliation, to sihnenister consolation, sod re medy the evils of a degraded and of people. 14e considered with hie Right Hon. Friend, the .. 111 11 11ber for Dublin University, that exile tend Adkablefeere never to be coosidered as the ilistru sweetest Government, but as implements of es •pediessey, which must be resorted to ',coo simsally M repress disorders which would other. eiMe' Owen end to all government. They had sleesmerlst their acts that they were ready to grant may 'glower necessary for reducing civil confu sion 40 order. But the means grunted' fur such emeefeacies -sere to be considered sa exception to widgeons( video, out by any emene Is rules of themselves. The country was now prepared ,for a wieder Coarse; the people by this time were con trive:eel of the steady determination of the Govern ment sod the Legislature to repress insurrection, anot•lo compel obedience to the laws. They ought mist to be assured that the House end the Legislature would set with no low resolution in -examining and remedying the evils complained of ; 'bet .they were reedy to probe them to the bottom ; me ford redeem where justice claimed it, and act in fertare we a systeiss • remedial in ilsell—at s y s t em 'of equitable law, without which no good government could exist. He **old state one thing which he was vory neer forgetting. It might be thought that the no tare of Ins motion was too selfish, but the principle wee the same in any other ease. He had sheet, that !hue roe effects bad malted—thin• the comparable bemuse of eeports must always take place whim 'nuncio° had - gone en so as to diminish coasualptiOn., Meals had been acid of the Tiers of the Church. Pio one was ,ore ready to regard them with date: reinitiate.; but was there nothing to be said for the. rights of the laity ? Mid he been a member of the : Irish Parlwrient at the Union, he would never have suffered so -teeny chid-gee to have been 'taken Mr the revenues of the church stylised upon thetillage., Were they to has* any power at ell to look to ilMr. rights of the peeple ? There was infinitely more. taken from -the people - foe: the church, than ever the ehureft.reeeietorl. Their dues were colleeted by es espricerue Ofte of spins, *lto drew the lee totems from pauper., under the Merril* of their wicked authority. He most advert, before he. coactuded, to the groat leantrig crbstroctiina to Irish prosperity, 'Mich arm the failure of the Government and Legislature to ideotify every clam of iishabi.. tones with the free rights belittsgmg to every subject, .and acknowledged in every free State: He did not my that they could tamootly tresignillise Ireland ; it mu impeasible that evils of , a century soda half M growth could btu very soddenly tiepersed. The eliketewf that system , . the penal code it could not I. called, it weitoade tap of oppression and astripidnees, would be tong felt—that system which sem against all law, end opposed to ail moral enth rallment divine and humeri—which net the father against the offspring, and put sit . 1 he relations in hok nine toeach ether. They could cot entirely remove thee( Bets evilest once. bat they must Isegirwsis on that lay the only hope of sw eget/wand change. fib knew it S would be said that the evil. were traceable V ttw wets of the Irish character. But why dill these vices fail to produce the same effect on °their chsracters and unties. ether Governments ? Wityl became the British Government hod oo longer NIII powerof instigating the evil ; on longer the capes Why .of setting father against son, and Weft% &phut brother. The kindly feelings of .AN bid room to operate, sod they were se strong ii Aitit bosoms of Irish as any other people. The Right, Honourable Gentleman concluded his speech amidst load cheering, which accompanied the end I d it, and thou propored the following motion 0 Tim ea Malls Address be prorated es his Majesty, to reptant that the reeteeebeity delude coetaised is his Majesty's graeines Speedo frees the Throne, and tbe dac► meals laid before es at the opining of the Session of p m . lieetest . respeatitig the limos, diatom' of coasiderebk dis trkts of. Intim* ithees es to eassider the stile of that ix lapin eseivideeldapsrt -of the Veiled Kingdom se most diatriming art alSetiog ao the Lreistatare, *edt dangerous ie an extreme illegoes to the welLbeitig of theentpire. " That soda cirenetatences of daring insulnothestion to the has, 'drachmae:ame end insurrection, the Ceristatere deemed it to be its kW dose to era the Executive Govera mpg/ii •WI all:the powers which were esesidered eataisirle to popish sewage, to suppress Isaarrsetioei, osd to/wore lie a ... towed sad rairstary eosin to l b . adatisiatretioe of constitution] hart. 1 .• We-treat that the eeogilsite• placed by Parliament is tie fik•oolloo , Cleareeattearit et lielept well be forma to have twee ht p thaeneffeadenaperow, yet* sum exercise if time ratroordieser p•apaap b aimi;a4amaalall• to Wed's , twee bleeds's' perseet . ). That having that provided far this; celainitopeceter. grimy, with Telefoon urns itaimmetata pressor., wr feel wo ollies aine,talivd apoe to latelote , the greasl'otterier object 84 a wretteesaive s.d pernassest enadiersties of the condition and naval lashiqi of the people. " Decteredly.itopressed alit a twevicilvo of the alarming rienereptinikes which woo matt frau a looker coolusevice of tire ritsergosierdwele 'of Ireaixd; *bath 4aa tamajoaBVl rfe hapaawootarassase ell. • ppitert aid rarliaastioi fat a sea. :!!! i . 10 170 13-411: 6._ 11§ ....4 it igargi iiirUWl. "coder their hee r fiti iterriihstery telieeree ter died fiat ealriebte improvement is the ewe& • Attie ofthe gelide, which i. Indispensably itehieteltd with the Wet tetereetewee prosperity of the St ate." -- : Mr. Gout.nuan promised to follow as narrow a snick ea that to which the Right Hoiworable Born stet had confined himself. As to the questino. lie *might it might be :monied that it wits chiefly in ailieled to promote discomilon un tlw store of Ire ; Wel. He did not memo to deny the main facia and arguments of the Right Hon. Baronet's speech. and still less the samitions of the motion propmed ; atilt it did not seem to hum to he a necessary duty Ira the House to take MI itself to state principles to the Crown, merely because they were tree. The practice wonld he inconvenient. The object of the Motion was of course to reflect on the Irish Go i . trernment, tither for not understanding shoal eight principles of governing, or else for be. ' iog slow or incapable in adopting them into the , practice. He delended the Irish Governnient fens!,*tirsy such imputation. He reminded the House of the very abort time. nominally three mouths. bit realty not more than seven weeks. that it ,had been seated. He attributed the evils which vested that country to ceases far remote in point of time—to the early conquest, and all that had proceeded from it—to the divisions created of old, end perpetuaied I be ell succeeding generations—to the religious dis- ' motions whieh made the people of property, who ' were chiefly Protestaant, attribute the jealousy of the lower classes, who, were chiefly Rome.' Catho lics. to the influence of their religion. It was won derful, he Mid, to observe with what fondness the old inhabswista eherished the recollections of hatred to. wards hostile parties with as much vigour es belonged to the Rut agitators. who perhaps existed centuries ago. tt world be difficalt for Government to adopt soy nweisures which were likely to influence habits de tivedfroen periods so remote; end strengthened into inveteracy by every succession of cirearnmances. The Right Hon. Baronet said that Ireiaed wee too highly taxed, and from the weight of the tuition he deduced all the evils which he ascribed to the number of absentee proprietors. Now though be (Mr. G.) might think the 'sum rained from that country by taxes ton largireonsideising the rehnire proportions of the wealtKdaterproperty of the two countries, yet he could not ascribe to it this effect which the Right Honourable Baronet represented it as producing; and when the Right Hon. Baronet told them that immoderate taxation in Ireland drove the gentry and landed proprietors from that country, to seek a cheaper habitation in this, he (Mr. G.) mast call upon the Hbuseto consider the degree to which the rate of tisitios its this canary had been augmented during the war. Without at all entering into the question of the melange of the ! taxation upon Ireland, without eallitit Willa them to say whether that country was or *WIWI too • highly taxed, he could not help calling Open them tos consider whether they could imagine it possible • that persons should have been forced, by the rate of taxation, from Ireland to this country, whew it was notoriously so much higher. The question of•the tithing system of Ireland. on which the Bight ' Hon. Baronet had also dwelt, was one of the greatest intvictiey and importance, most extensive in its bear ings,and differing moat wide lyfrom that which prevoril.• ed in England. ft wus one which required the deepest and most attentive eonsideration, involving on one hand the rights of the church, nod on the other those of the people, end requiring. whenever it should be brought before them fdr consideration, Neat both the one and the other shonld he moat im partially weighed before soy dreisioa was formed. The-tithes most be considered as cmrsing with• them a right of property, and it most be home io mind that the time principle open which they might be called' open fdr a legislative interference with that right, sight hereafter be made the ground for calling for a similar ioterference with pro. perty . of other descriptions. If for instance, be- anise the tithes were collected by third persona. and net by the parties iu whom the interest wee origi . .. nelly vested, they were to be called upon to inter.. fere with the property of the church—he called open them to consider whether, for the same reason, • they might not hereafter be urged to a similar W. , terference with other property. He knew that tithes, that rents, that taxes, that county rates. that Grand-Jury pteeentments, in short. that every thing in the shape of a demand for peementlffiny kind.. had been repeatedly denounced as the source of . the grievances of which the people of Ireland had to eemplein, and the cense of the disturbances which were continually breaking out in that country. But if - thew things were made the topics of corn. plaint, if these were proclaimed as the grounds of discontent in Ireland, it was not because they were really so seriously felt as evils by the people, but because- the disturbers there knew that the agita tion of such topics eras likely to secure to them the osoistaoce of those classes upon whose passions they sought' to work. Whatever disposition the Go vernment of Ireland had to search into the causes and oriels' nature of the disturbances in that country. fur the purpose of providing u remedy, it. was its paramount deity to apply itself in the first instance to the repressing of these disturb. anew. •And though it ' had in seine degree succeeded in its earthen' for that purpose, it by no 'nouns followed, that because disturb. 'times were Sow less prevalent iu particular die: tricts than they were • month ago, that the tran. qualvty of the cenntry was petfectly restored. The symptoms were yet such as strougly skewed the necosaler of contiening those measures by which the peace had, been to some degree re-evtablished, and that il they were too suddenly removed the dim torbonees would almost imtontly break out again; He could. 'however. assert the House, that, much as the• intension of the Government bad been ~ oeenpied tey the secretory mewtire! for reprewing the•erda, sold the coostint corresFioncleoce which' ti wito•neeesoory to Corry on with the Magiotrato;a is varies* qoartere of the eneutry, it hid not hoes isottroviee to the topics on which die Rigstt Hot. Baronet had &irk so much sod so forethly urged. But when the ttiflievlses• of coat- . fientenlhen- were conwdereof, when it' is ressen bawd that Maxwell sod tom Hight Him. rtiwtd .tom T- 11111 ... sinterOveeill of i'freeteheeetearily at.. I tessifing tfbrie duties in littgleut, while the Lord Lieutenant was ad* ''eg the goreitintent •in land, the diffieultreie ' trendy oaten:dent upon . .- jotercollie hetweeii them and that noble person. ingether with the difficulties of the subject itself. ight he thought well excuse the Government front elnirge of mettention in nut being at that mu- Wfaut prepared to make any satisfactory communi cation to the House upon the subject, He the result of the opinion of that Government upon the nature end utile of the disturbances, founded spun the .loquiries which they had been enabled to make, and the reformation whose they had been able to acquire. He hoped, therefore, the House would see the propriety of postponing for the present the consideration of the state of Irelaud, until he should he prepared officitally to communicate the opinions of the Government on that subject. The motive of ;he Right Hon. Baronet, if agreed . to, enuld in effect affix a stigma to the character of the Irish Government, which would be se impo litic as unjust, by wading it forth as the opinion of that House that it was nabs to administer the effairs of that country; he therefore concluded by moving the previous qoestioo. (The Right Hon. Gentleman then sat down iltili , i feud cheering from both sides of the House.] Mr. Ni. C•LVEAT supported the motion of the Right Hon. baronet.. pad corstended that Wend, possessing in her climate, the fertility of her soil, .and the extent of her cultivation, threefold ativati sages over Scotland, which paid 4,000,0001. of tissaa, ought to be able to pay at least 12,000.000/., wherew it only paid an equal amount with Scot land, which was as strong a-proof as could be had of the misgovernment to which it had been subject. Mr. Seale° Rica said the Govermaiou itself, .in fixing six mouths as the period of duration tibial it proposed to Parliament to assign to the i- Acts which it had called upon it to puss relative to Ireland, when it was net wingoine enough to an ticipaie die complete restoration of the tranquillity of the country wathio that period, could only have done so for the purpose of affordiug en opportunity fur this discussion, in order that it might slier what was the ',siert and the causes of the disturbances Mere, and what they proposed to do towards their removal. It was therefore surprising that aa ob• jection should slow be made to die inquiry how far those measures had been well applied, and how tier the Government had been justified in their adoption. The Right Honourable Camitleman had relieved him from one part of the task which he expected be should have had to perform, by admitting • suite of misgovernment to have en eiently existed io Ireland, from which he deduced the evils with which that country was at presort afflicted. He did not know where the Right lion. Gentleman meant to fix the limit of ancient and modern government, but in casting over five ceu tunes he had only sacrificed Henry 11. and Strung bun, Earl of Pembroke. But if to thaw, the original invaders, whose doctrine with regard to property was " plunder," and with regard to the people " exterminate," Ireland owed the establish ment of the feudal doctrines and barbarous policy which bad produced the evils under which she had so long suffered, an enlightened Government during the lost two centuries, or even daring the last filly years, might have retrieved the mis chief. What had occasioned the strikirig difference between England arid Ireland but titelisseduet or its Goverustreat, and those tustitistiosis *site focuser which the latter had never esjoyedit- Weed hod never known the blessiug of"1' At* et/institution until 1782, when she acquired it throws(' the eller . (toss of • most illustrious patriot, of whom it was almost profanation in him to speak—he meant the. Right Hon. Henry Grattan, a dabs, 9101r011000Arabie! than enuld he given tonne, uneasily's,* ef Wash-, Wigton. The constitution she then obtained gave her the asarerie of int prevement, but they were always uti- ' der the influence of Coverument. She had her two Homes of Legislator*, but whet was the use made of them by the Government ? The honours of the one *ere made made use of to corrupt the inte grity and Petriblisto of the other.---(Cherra.)—The policy orthe twenty years preceding the fission was preessely• whet Ind been followed since. The first battle fought in , the Imperial Parliament was on the Neff Martial Lew 'Bill—al most ominous tile*t cons " J ot that country --aud. referring. to proceedings . since that period, it was • caroms, to observe two streams flowing together down the channel of Parliamentary history; the one . ofiremy taxation, and the other of strong coereion.=(Clisers) —Measures o( inquiry sad redress had been free quently proposed front that (the Oppositioe) aide of the Home; but timagh•the miasma. of taxa tion and coercion were always carried, those for inquiry and redress were skills rejected. The same objection had ever been made as that which they heard to-night. It was never the proper time; slimlya too son; sad the Government was never ready. A proposition of that mature respecting the tithes had been brought forward in 1808, by e friend of his, which was met by the Munster of that day with the seise excuse. Indeed Mr. Per ceval went rather further than the Right Mon. Gentleman (Mr.'Cllohibbrn) had done that night, for he distinctly stated that the question was under the consideratiou of Government, and that it was Mieuded to propose • specific measure. It was agent revived in 1809, and each successive year up to 1812 inclnave, and as regularly evaded by the tante plea. It was n o w objected that times of diffi culty were not the proper seasolis her agiteting such gabjecte; bat is better times wish "hat lace could any aim come forward with a proposal to inquire inn) tire crosses of disturbances which no longer existed ?—(Hear, hear,) —Thus to Ireland, nei (her day nor night was there soy hope of rest. The (become* of these topics was depot. rated as pregamot with -danger; but. there was-one thing which-was much more to be dreaded in Ire= lend than discussion, mai that was despair ! tHeisr. hear.)—By the rejection of this Address, pragigh otos& sun further than to pledge theta•to the ~eidiailleretion of the se bject . t ha hopes of restoring sire ' pewee's, Ireland would be destroyed. lie called on the noose, therefore, to adopt it, as holding out the bolter:4 coovifiatory measures to come. In every discussion that had taker plow ass. the tithe system, every Irishman who bad spoken on the subject, wassever the aide of • the House from which he spoke, had reprobated it. mud said that if they ewer buffed to. restor e iseoquallity. to Ireland that eyeteta mu oat be ameliorated. The *sheet. of lecel . ~ta: .. , : . . ~~®. ON" pessio* ter eosslitatittual her, eakleelber • •N. Att e apatutibiltiy wiatelt mitt attact:oa tb. Ilif!iiineffteir tend B biliatlgiouttrom Ipagee tiglett trztitilbe e effeposity Up llt• biota Ist •r: dear tobooodltb stalagmite:ebb. .111 - re 1 ' . Vela togs bilibediaut oftrebit eg . &la owl Wirsoisetiito seek a aTateva oftebteellif wee sf tow. be reeemallbhded by We Msjeo7 to ort-otry to that vett psi. ms , - 11 . 1- agab alail t 4 14140-r"r".l:',""Vs." . ♦ . ~. • • taxadau he tarinld not notattaildlo. 1111 be wits, however, onother rutiect, astaitly, that of eduottion e on which they had inade, by. the establishigant of achoole, an approximation to those 'principles which woold tend to ameliorate the condition of the peo ple of Ireland. schools would grratly check the.progress among the youth of that deruondisa. tiun which was now en much at work among those more advanced in life. The number of school masters in Ireland was 8.000; but deducting from them the iturnl)er of the good and strikli-oldered schools, in the remainder would be found some of the mu-t ,mischievous, because the most powerful en gines„ fur propagating the pernicious principles which were now is such active amenities. Is nue of diesel schools he had himself men, and he was informed; that itwat commonly the case, seed ale teat book.' the life end wdorotorett of the ontoriows robber whol served us the prototype of the present Copia& Ruck. Judgirig from the past conduct of Gorero-! mem, ne faired that if the Emotion of his Right Hon. Friend were rejected, it "could ;were the postponement for an indefinite period of measures of conciliation. Li the debates on the I naurrectiMi Act, in 1815. a Right I-lon. Geutlenisu opposite, wiborrow held a high official situation is Ireland, had declared shwt.the Hasse•woold grimily neglect its duty if it failed to inquire into the circum stances which had rendered it oecemary to subject the country to tl.e hopeless come of such.me taunts as were •thou propased." ',lip such impory had hitherto bees made; an& to resent teflon] from inch a state of outlawry end degradation as the' i isr l t Hoe. Gentternan had then described, it was that he oar . called upou the ,Mouwe to odoptthis 'whoa. • Mr. C. GRANT rose *midst a general cheering, and proceeded to address the [louse ; but the situ.- two to which he stood was particularly unfionsor.. &blobs his benntheard in the gallery; and swath . of his speech was wholly lost to us, through the distnrbance . ettciVicnieir by the struggling and wrestling ofjierson. forcing their !ay in ma d r coo of the (biota 4 - the gallery, which were completely oholtml AiMmith the ouniller of stlangentiod-; , inteernptiuu mentioned by Me shim disfrlby those parts* was frequearte eon !text •till 'ld occasion ielpeated calls of " Order tom the Speaker. We. unclerstood the Rtglltt lloootarable Gentleman to cantata 4*._4bigisti flow the present motion on the'groond 0f41041/00 verstenent of this country being *hearty or illterplyl pledged all conk: be by the 'domino of thdl*,,, L' to enter into the coneiderotioss of the state 4 1m... ,lend, and the coupes of the disturbance* is.- that ~eassutry, with as little delay RI possible. 1w 1710 I the first disturbances o 4 dna kind arose, and they had continued with hut short intervals ever since which sheered the budnesa of the internal system (of government in that Country. The disturbers had appeared at venous periods under Affirmed de. nominations, as White Boys, Keens of Oat; Right Boys. Steel Boy., Defenders. and Others; all cnielly arising out of local &thump, anti succeed. ing each other op to the present time. Oa the present occasion, the disturbances in Limaviok arose from the oppressive coodnct of the tepid of the Courtenay estates. The people of that !part of the couutry were of a mere lawless and ferocious spirit than those of Guy other part of Ire load. Awd he behoved it would test be denied by ofiimadomou connected with that comity, that many eseistileneett there, wills a welt-intentioned; perhaps, l l but certainly a misjudging spirit, slid oppotte thpit-11 selves most violently to the agent of the CoValltin LiNsprity, and theseby encouraged the pilsoll to their ill.dispositiom In his• view of the ostilldk the immediate einem of the evil wet the ge , nersl abject state of the Irish peasantry.—(Cheers.)— In 1797, in reference to the doturbgd stet; of Ire land-, Lord Clare:mid, " Ise•did not believe there was in the world so miserable a peasantry as that of Ireland." He (Mr. C. Grapt) did believe that no pert of Europe, except Poland, could watch the condition of the ponsantry.of Ireland. In England the landed proptiethe builds . cottegti for hie tenan try and labourers, end encourages them in their comforts; but in Ireland nothing of that sort is known; and he would suggest it of a matter well wort ity the contisieraike ot . the Gentlemen of Ireland, whether it 'mold not be worth their white to adopt the practice which prevailed in England in that re spect. The chief topics of complaint in Ireland were rents, tithes, and taxes. His.fttgill [lon. Friend bed alluded to the subject of taxes ; but he would beg to remind hint. shut when taxes were spoken of in Ireland es a grievance, it was not the taxes irovsed by Government that were meant, het the local aseeepsseols by the Greed Juries, whieb were oft,' most oppressive in their•eperaticin. In the county of Cock the acreabh tee, whiektbirty yeses ago did not exceed six shillings a. sere, roar, in the course of the war to 20/, and had store fallen to IS!. per acre. With respect to the tithes, he thought the com plaints on that subject much exaggerated; hut he was still sen sible that the system aloud much in need of amelioration. The tutercats of the (berth itself rendered same alteralloe desirable; for what could be more fatal to the progress of the Protestant religion thee 'tech a owe of thiota as in waived a Clergyman, at bls find entrance spun his living, is a quarrel with his parishioners How could any person who Ivoked at the state of Ireland, cosecsl from himself for a aseilleat Nut only that the propel of tithes we. bar a/einem., bet that the mode of collecting them was vexa tions to the highest degree? He did out blame the clergy, as tong al the titbes remaised upon their present roOting, for the employment of other prevails to collect them, or for farming them ; but sonic beset mode sbunlil be provided. The huirissing nature of the present system might easily be tethered from this short outline of the coulee porsord. in the ascents of March or A pril, Iwo %Jewell call at a fermi to viewlhi state of the crops. la about three or four mouths afterwards they called again to settle the tithes. About the murals of September or October the tithe proctor calls, soul metres for the amount of the tithe, • bill payable lb days before die January Seasions. Titer* ire four days be fore the Session'', the bill not having been paid, the proctor calla agate and threatens the party with a process sakes it is immediately paid; and on sauce ont the protege, he pro. lushly receives a septnl bill for the amount, payable • few days before the April Sel.lolll. Thus he is brought mend so the month of Spell, when the account fur the former year Mill renialning uaseithd, with the addition of .• considerable SIMI fur coats, the same course la began. for the takes of the eructing •yesr. In the tele. termed work of Sic Juke Davis, written at the tom unsiamesos aitalto wire of James I. he pointed sot the causes of disunion., to which lie then anevitied tfetdirteesees oodles mode/ lar the eat4asion orthe SSP pate from the English constitution ; that distinction war succeeded by nue still more entiecnive- , -that of Catholic and Protestant. ILon/Cterselsod researked, that is the 111% !eatery, is less teen ite millions of seem of teed I. Ireland bad dotard heads by treatments,. mutt the severity of the code, as to the Cestoolees 4 , was relaxed, soother ride spring op more fatal; be meant that code which had reference to the White Wry, sad military isoarreetioso. In Erratswittherr warels •siollikostlet body of yeomanry, n resident body V is belated the reverse was the ease in every teepee; D : r illi : t r e h r a ft sehtft e esa p OO Pela s : al F l u : h u al . e w ad r i ni s ho bl e vi l moi r r tag e h le e l l e e irre lyy : ' .i f t ed w 7 gerl ign fte l a . hie l l : lll" : l 7: t el e hh : i . .: : :: , :::l l ! d Mig ta c ed 7 rii r :te mi bil l es7 lrat t ili reir ismit li77 , ll ;:h ot ra d fli t illah : a .det i d worse lba• igunrance, and Ike irehoulebasters flintwelres , Tu All meets there tat the prealiarity of the Irish etrmirler, which was strongly tinged *kb roeirance, and every wativeineni which invoiced danger was on that aerosol meet welcome, To Woe tehlte Bey 'rode Angels of she mew al metal feed tog which Was displayed, should be attributed, but be could not. altogether acquit the chortle of *ellen te supineeees is the welter of educanim. He thoortit the Pro. bestial chgy had much to answer for ; they bad, it ',peered, to him, coadoserd tbeenorbres, veld a eery let' pariod, in Is structilig the Peotearants. cud conitentain the Cloth/die t bet since the penal code against the Caibelics had bent I N l P P ' in: ,, : a r a v ted i the. e ' t s o ll e d gipeh cou l d4e t t y e , e f a a id the g I t the but a service s t b a a i "n i i a k t et . w rheY a w y g il r h s : ll ; :g li f t i t h i r ! not so much had beta dose by them as he expected. lie to g i w i P t ie4s t• majority - h v ed e t a II ° c al: i lo hY o rrnoo t y eti : h e n:a s : a t sy ge ne ra l rib e c e e o ad f wricethorl the e r a g e hdt°6lB. . 'nrui:er y itek fir ei r7 alt a lilrd n ; t7Pc' p iet r Yi t-;el lt i : : .1. of mind, in the nii , lss of danger, which were most elear plary. If he were ailed tb say, lindrlng at the political history of Ireland, to what cause be should eitritute 'the distresires of that entreaty, he would In erne - word say it was the extrinsic amore of the Goverumeet, which had never been obliged is sympathise with the props., bet had beer solely supported by foreige std. He use speaking of the Guyernmiut previous to the ameliaratiou or 179:2. The moat absolute G meats, front the force of circumstances would acquire tome feedings of sympethe with. the people; but for 31) years previous to the Hisiust. the GOT!, SCllelig of leagSld was supported by the force of Eagimod There were, it tea true, NSW thiags it which the .Gave,.. b in e e l n w t eea we t . h i e m li e n r dl at o i r v d e ll7a f n o d r t a re l i a r ag te ' s ' an ilu ts w ? T tg lees uk e l ! t ere katu tr e ieg s that scat come from the peoph themplies. sad he would gipped with confidence to the Irish 'gently, who had all the good qualities which he had ascribed to the. anis bed, if . •fle people, with the high feelisg aid arse oaf beeper molt. ing from their education; he would appeal to them is sowed Hiceicsimeet of their wimmotry ; be wuuld mote them, by treillage times how diebsosouralole it was to @Amides these, and is shrink from their proper scene of action ; to forego their privilege of enlieisteseing, protecting, wad Insomnia ing the people.—(Hear, hear )—There were other cause' to which the Legidstere might apply itself; there were three eteat•ligeis worthy of its aiteotive. The first was the no . primmest, by coast iimionat means, of the !mitre sad nage- Stacy. The impeusemeet of the police lead engaged theft . SWISS of the Goirereostat of ire hod, sad use made grated was a revisit, and extensively impulsed police, to be peid by Garrenunent. The other mode was, attemptin( to improve the system already establithed. The objections to the principle of the first plats, that of cowering Ireland with getepersersar, was insuperable. With respect to the pressed 'plebs, he must say that he thought it had sot yet bad a fair trial, and it woo too math to say, because ii lust heirs very badly worked, that it should be abolished altoge ther. Where it bad been properly worked, the most beweleial effects had resulted. la the (booty of L'rogforti, elvers a No ble Lord (the Member fur tke.cout.ty) bail takes ore hit. self to hopenve the ordleary police, a store constible could go to any part of the meaty, sad bring up a priumee, with. out any interruption beteg experieured. With respect to the Magistracy, he knew that repeated conf. reams bad takes • place we -the 'object, and the LordChineellos sheet the pe riod of the demise if his tale Majesty, had determined to wee's* the whole spasm of the Magistracy; he had cot leeted a list of she mimes of Gentleinee proper for lbe Illisdhatrecys tied abet. he (Mr. Grant) hit Ireland it was complete with the eaceptiou of two or three cavities. As to soy plea of nation il edistaitue, he feared the.e were some imesperalele obstahlea to any plan of the sort ; bat he sera disposed to think the brat way to proceed would be to apply !there'll, the funds which were supplied by PaHiamesi trail parties. That fund, whit Is this year consisted of a vote of 4,0001., was adistiontored by Mr. Lateoebe, Mr. Woodward. and Mr. Meta, is a manner so weetiturfoos, that, smell se it was, it was produellee of the hest effects. He though' to ineteum ebe fund lartely would be the hest way of pee eeeding, but ob.-Weer it would be advisable to pet k ell seder the same Cuireale.:.ms, or to appoint diffeleut Coat dilbsiowere'for 681,061041 g it ; was a proper viceless fete eltositiorotioo. Midi respect to the Carbolic Clergy diving thei late diaterbaeoces the condo,' of the n sp-etable• holy of awe di served the strongest *ppm bonus% slut es a former measles be had restored Ito eapeem rabliely hie tease of their merits, which at the lime Issd•eidged doge same repecheution apes him fr. m some iedividosts; bat their 'CCU); (viten. t completely jar tiftest hi., se they had acted with a courage. loyalty, salt diseretioe above all praise. As the vices and miseries of the people had arisen from a system of bad goverstoeut, be thought a steady course of good government was owl of llio most obitioes means of reute.ly but above all, a spirit of concord and union must be promoted, althea which ell other measures woe! Ibe uugatory. AIM let it sot be Ismgised that it was impossible to hal mauler. all classea, fur There the 'experiment bad been fairly tried it had been eminsally sac ressfol. Otte instance he wowed mention to the House. Is a populous perish, oils, miles (rein the city of Limerick, the orighboartneparishes to which had bees repeatedly eirited, yet is that parish no alarm had insets the clergy's. slept in bus bed without auy additional fastenings or any arms is his house. la that parish on the last day of December, oes a Sun tiny, *hes the chapel was crowded with people, the Catholic demotes ieetrothiced the Protretaut misister to hie emigre pima, sad eschewed thus to mollusc the peseeable and or. drily cosduet which bad before disaieguithed them. His address bid sorb effret, that dm whole of the coogregldlus came toed took the oath of allegessee is by acclamation. This was ash a sudden burst of enthusiastic loyalty, but a settled habit of good will, which thus produced its peeper fruits. The Kiehl :los. Gentleman coucluiled by hefting Pardon of the Moose for hat's& so long treapiseed out their patiestoe.--(lfeer, hear,) Mr. ELLIS said he should be rather seem to dimmesion at the petered time, bersesse It would teed to irritate whet it should be the object of all poblie diseessiuts to vertu,. If in espresting his upiniou be should betray say of the io• Seenities of herniae nature, the gentlemeu us the other side were 1101 exempt (ruin the same reproach. He should rwre • slaleules* of• fates which, as he was deeply estoneeted •01 the AiMerhed districts, be cowld vouch for wee troth of; if he asistated ordiseolooled Hies, be spoke in iler bearingwf Mem bers of the Government, who were sky COVI•Z Nu of the facts, mad could (effect him. The Hight lion. Illember (Me. Gwent) had spoken of the dodorbatires as remised to • partiralet district, °Hemet 'lir in a I cal end rot of pesmosur , doration ; bat on ail those puled. he begged so eltifee 1e... biro He asserleel, on the contrary, that the peewee di tertiaticre, in their diatiect chewier, originated a 'WI 1, though there had bees several disturbances, the vowel completely Jimouri hone all other iu ita mote. li nest femme was the nature of the agent. empkeyrd they were solely and exclusively Cathie/ice. He cam! WA bow Ullll h the P,-tuestant 'night paler wailer the extremity of dittreste—(Hear, hear)--kowever crushed by his poi/rely, lie lend sot engaged in ihe preheat dittoed- IlltiCtS. This penury operated as rebellion tin the Rowan CSlllotie only, and its extend was the whole of Irelard. The Howse would recollect that the disturbances originated in 1814, when the high rents bad so existence, or rasher the low priers were sat, and Were •as no complaint pf high ream either then or during the year IRS. • *We high peters were maintained, yet the present ',stem bad exit' L e u c n e r a w l as ib e: t er t ern iMe 4 . e in the .reereiesdoutbldfsl disturb t st the . Ce ihr thel m ' n ✓oot obligation which bound them to each other wu "suf. Schott proof of it: Is all their forms there was so expire mit of hostility to the established religion of the reustry clearly sbcwistr Itself. He would nut undertake to say what their object was, bet they certainly had an object detrimental to the established religion, and not easels lug itself to ' the lowering of rents. If the Nonevent , • Member for Limerick was slon krd at the teal honk which he bad mentioned as hrint in the tondo of even schoolmoster, how much more would be hue felt at that I I " I bulk a loa • eta - e vper tog their .1 aims• what tut aide I 11 r" able 4 leo 444) 'ler 4 Den] r ooM, mat be red arcd ider sbrel orb- oan • d airs . linat pink aim • *be • II reit. dd. 4 pert? 1 airy ay al dject pis- .1 able book ~" ihat .11 MN