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1411PEIZL4L PARLIAIVENT, 110475 E OF PEERS. MONDAY, AUG. ?. Lord Viscount too:: the oaths and his Esau QinlnSel wi finally heard in the. Appeal of the Mike Of 'H.4100114 tart; Rev. Mr. Scott ;- the far; ther consideration of the cause opt Monday next, A. I ti i . nhr of public' and private Bilk were brought 'pp from the Commons, and read a first time; among his. Connor wee the Harnburgh Mail and Colonhl Trale , • Lord LivUrlannALa ,c9mplilinf34 OW no Return had been made to a motion which he bad brought forward-, for a :List. of the Names of those who were entitled ,to Places in Reversion,: the' Dates of such Grants, and the.Amount.of such Reversions, more cipecially as they respected the High Courts of Jus tic,' and' Eqnity, • • • The Loap,CßANese,Loa seemed to observe, that as'tUro•waS no person h' the Courts alluded to who could 'W rogird.ed as the propetOtHaers in such cases, the Papers - moved . for by the Noble Earl might poi .• have been produced. Lord . ',Am - NODAL% could not admit of such a dlr.- nity, Noblefrrd on the Woolsack had et own diTosal several places in reversion, and so tar the . Learnedand Noble Lord might himself be t.t.t proper Officer to liar such Accounts before the Undse. . ' • • .4The Lortli CfIANIELLOR would not contend about ttkiquestion who was or who was not the proper Officer in any 'of the Courts alluded to, hut as to the patronage ascribed to himself, of which, he .hattas Yet known nothing trout arty other quarter, he should c'ethfinly tai'ie the first, eccasfen to inquire 'iiiAfter some further conversation, Lord. AgoEN 911;?,gefged that the Bill might be read a second time,' and the egmtnitteb postponed' until the desired in fLimatioh should be obtained. He , intended, how . fiver, to oppose the Bill. E:,il of LIUDZIWALB actinieked in thiS sug gotion„ the hill wai ordered to be rezidtiecond tittle to-morrow, and the Lords to be suromoned. 'Ott the Motion. of the Earl of I,lvlntin,',ii,h, the return to the. Oyler of the HOuse was ordered to be r.n I,4tlr.Vith. . • '1114: Lean CIIANCELLOCI gave notice, that on Tharsdly nut be should subtilit a Motion to the House lespeaing the 'nature of the at st Standing . , Ot . der of the House.' ...tie small - stun which, at a very remote period, was attached to iccognizances try cases of Appeals bronght before that House, was . , in a Brent degrem, the 'cause of the frequency of shell , Appeals, both ,from 6cotland and Ireland, -anti it his intention to Move on that clay (hilt the such beast least d o uble - . He had otliet - rotastires in view thiS respea, .hoth with regard' to Ire'aiid Scotland, but what lie had tohbserVe•on that head, he shot:4d 'reserve till Thursday. . • The flotr;e then resolved iiself into'asCornwittee . pu tht Traders' Asiets Bill, when' several : verbal Amenduients were proposed by 'Lord EiCiKiNE, 1116 IdOp.1) C:ANCI.I.LOII; and Lord REDESDALE, but it being übserved that the adoption of some' of them would of neces,ity thro', out ,the Bill in the oilier noose, the cLief Amendatcnt was withdrawn. I and itamEstmLwrnoved for an Account of all tiny l'ioces of Public Worship for Persons in the (I;onnnunien of the Establis!led Church in England, &c. and of . the , NuLnuer of Persons . wbo at tend t, I.ord FloLtin wished Ireland to be included. Lord lit,o:Anhut, eonsid:ring all the bettrings.of the got -ion, was of opinion the tuatter might. be . beker lo,luired into next Session. • Lotd, ettANCEI.4OII colic:Ili-red in general lit this opinion, obietOng, that tinw should be afforded to produce the necessary hifornt • • Seine. cc yers.o ensu e ,l het ..%',(...c11 Lord ,Hat.. l...ANtt, Lord SIDMOVTit, Lord liramsbAtA, • and the too) CHANCKI.I.OII, to the It)ddit ci Ito Lir,' pro ; Ith r which the Motion was withdrawn,. and the ilouse adjourned. HOUSE or COMMONS, MONDAY, AVOW 3. Mr. 1.)r.1.ip g(ve tv lice, that on Wefineitily next lay shoold.risovc for. leave to bring in a /or the 13-..ter !Ati.-:,;1 Proceedin44 on' Petitions •rela , III... ! to t Eledionc . . KW-IKE bt0 . 1,.,hi up the Consolidated Fund •ci a first and, ortle,reil to lie read' a j I'.l 8:".".%)144 toi-mf;rroW. • o tt . die 2,Bl,tiokof i\fr. 1?oart$11 ) flot‘se..went.. :.":".orotteittott on. tho rciatip s t to S lt, ..atid' 04rt...vd to a lit..loltitioo, that Salt m i t.tutitured in Great :11it-cto and I,riand' 5h0t . 0.3 t;iit be . ovimitted to bo export,239Crom exc. -pt to Noy,,Peouttd -I,IIIJ, ri Ships Ve:;.-icIA ei_;:cay trans burthen: re,t.tibed,, when iho. 'tapOil was broNtit op and a.2;roed to, and a Bin ortierQd an»: t , cotvildi ETEE DE WAYS ,A.ND MANS. /rr: I tioovui ()Ater of the Day tor a Commit(co of Wayti,iind 4t-ans.. The Hulse re iwt.) the Commiltee, Mr, tlobbouse In ,the, it tims resolved, that 4,400,6)01..14Q v, Exchett.lr 41115," to cover the Vette of ;rt. of Great Britain-, also 500,000). bY ri! , ‘,ll y tor the service, of . Ireland, to he ~ .,, , poctivety tlic first 'aidtt to be granted, rico. , )! 1 • The .HOuse .hawing - reoutnetl, the teiwrt ttia, c.,rtlQreci to he recched to-morrow. Tice M,lll:ll,iren Hilt y - a-trimtla:seeoptltime, and . or.lered to 1-4. , 2 committe to-morrow. 6,4:rtilakt Linct►l`3.lll WllB read a third time mid ragsed, Sir J. 1 ::;iNCI.,“11 preiented . n PetitTrm from the Ad vent oreri 'ill. tile 1101;ri rig Fothery of e - dithnetl,.agaiost rhe .k -di ,h 1-li'rring Irripo,.tatiop liill.—Ordered to lii, Ott the tablr. Thi;' Si')k Ow) , !MI And the S'i.veilish Herring Bill, , throuL4ll C.Utltlrlitteis , atid werei ICJ roi.or!cd f lit I 1 4hiet! 13111 was .read a t i ;le, ,ortld co his ctintulitted to-wor. t l,>'.:' Tl,:' S4c It L;TAti at WA Ti, Prtelle kited se vt , i . Ac comit,, to the I!,) , :pence ocy 1. ir the tp.iiie`Arolv mer t ;it .6 8 4: .44 is were oidered 9n the 4 and tisybk.- Conlrnitte,:. The ilipOrt was ordered to be received to.rborrnow. A Mosne from . the Lords inforMed the lionse, that, their 'Lords;hips had agreed to the Sierra Leune Company Bill, and several' private Bills, without zany amendments. Mr. 1 - 10BHOUSE bronjht up the. Report of, the Smuggling Prevention Bill. The atnynd:nents of the Cornmirtee were ,agreed and. the 'Bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. '" INWA ACCOUNTS. - • Ordered, on the • Aleitionof:Mr. ettitzvEY, that there be laid before the House an Estinl.4on British Currency, of the Expenditure and Clnyto of the India Company, &c. The 'Hon. bontlejnari stated; as the ground of leis M.otion,thla , con Side r, able difficulty must be felt in nnderstan:iing; the Accounts, in consequence ofthe form in whic:s t hey were usually preSented, the expenditure of one Pre sideney .being calculated in rupees, and of another in pagodas, The'objea of his Motion was to pro-' cure the Estimates all in British,Curreney„, in the same manner as had been done last 'year., He then repeated his f assertion, that the deficit of the India Company would be above two Minions.. Nlr..l3uNtnAs did- not object to the procluOion of, 'the Account in the form proposed, but contended,' that exClusive of arrears, there was a surplus arc - venue over the expenditur e of the Company. • • PUBLICANF. Mr. SHERIDAN presented a Petition fr 6 nl se veral persons,' Ret iilers of Beer and Spirits, and' Bre werA, of the City of Westminster, praying the in terpo:iition of the Reuse on their behalf, with resped to the power exercised by Magistrates as to the granting or withdrawing•'their . licences.' The Peti tion was .ordered to lie on the table. • . . • 'Mr: SHERIDAN then obierved, - that- the Petition which had been just read, was signed ,by tt,sarly l'oce. persons .; who complained of. the inconvenience they: outfered from the manner in which their licerer.s . were liable to be withheld or withdraWn, - at the dis 'cretion of the Magistrates. In consequence itf ; the very important discussion that was to .gbme en-, he 'should not trespass upon ,the time of the House. He' should content himself•in theCinstapce by reading a - p-irt of the Petition, which contained all the argtt mews itt support of the propositions,. '.E34 to dake, AB the law, stood,.no licence coulchbe wit h dem ti• but 'at a •full Meeting of Magistrates, het the law did not specify what number .WaS detect a foil meeting, and it left to the ; Magitittates discretietvof granting or•withholdinvhelidence Cording aftheY,Should think lit. '•Froln theaptercise of this discretion the_ Pehlicate often experienced 'grievous inconvenience and •oppre , sion. The Peti tiorrHstated, that the limited interference of the CoPrt - of .I(ine's Bench did nut atford:theanearts of aaequ"ite redress. It often happened, that. from :misrepresent the' licence. was taken from an honest - and industrious individual,• who embAkett his whole property in his'busines3; andiwas by oaell au 'ea depriVed of his ta:ans of suppOrt. They could proVe all this at the' Bar; : and when.his Bill should come. to: the second .reading; he shonld state Such , cases' Of cruel and &hiding .oppressiones would eicite the surprise of Gentlemen. With regard to thepro. visions of the Bill,. he thought it necessary then to say,. that they .would not diminish the Contronl of die Magistrates liver licences, but were merely to prevent sit iMiIIsITIPH3 man's having his property, his bread;and Means dsubsistence, from being ti:luo from .hhu by a secret meeting i,f at A istrAes, and to direat that such exercise of the powerut Ma-' gistrates - should be an a'o Of the opeu 'And: bere,withont meaniug any refs Mitre on the pat.l'..Ma e gistrate.., h must make a distiovt4ei between 0104 tend those very respectable Cuttotry.GentleMen. ho' gate up their time and services in discharglag the dotie', of 'Magtsirateg wnhont• any - renittotTaVon whatever. fit:. del ,not. th.ok .it neceSsary tor'tn,ll ‘ then to add atiy tither to: What hehad.sai bee.t.ele, iii the progieSs of the measure, he won , ' hive (>R011111)4 of explain* more fully•all the eiretim- Fil 11,Ct S Iff the ease, and e,el••hided , 10 )5111 `. ;. tor ,- lcat c to bring:lu a Bill to aineud the' Act or' ue- , of Cameo. 11 1 , tln far same relates to:the gramme and •, regulating licences, tee, . 77,4 (4/4 Ncf!,l4oft rf IJee &X - Cl,4:Qa.ER'i 'did not mean to ebje4l".te the Motion oft 0 Fior:' Goi keman, : but certainly .thetight . that iv WOuld - I)eve been tore.tegnier 'Wile had stated the'grentiaSlttpori , which he brought forward his mea'sore , , ii' this; iii st.inee, lather tan reserVe theoefor the oeonett Mg. If the Ili,;ht faun. (eittleman cough prute.at the Bar of, that House-such cases of cruel and ins Ltpprtion as .he had stated, the Cdorfol.kieg's' Bench was,the-most proper place Id seek renre,i.- . ,.- ne; to know whither the Right stole Gen , ' ti ene , e r ueaet his kill to be general, or to b e co n-' tined 'to Westminster ?—(Mr. SitettinAN ohiery ed 'across''the tulle that be should stale' /tat pi.escotly, which pi.Oduced ar latch ) At any rate he could:uot ore aLiy reason why the flight tion.qehtletitan should have Made the distiti&itin betweetv'those MagiStiates who presided over the Police ot this City aeerothee Magistrates. , Mr: S I? 3.1 D diTreplied that if the •HOn. Gen tlematt.letd attended,- to ,bitn, he would heitiiireard him read from the- PetitiOn, that the limited inter ferenee , of the King's Bench did not atibrd an :etfeC:.' tual mode of redress. it might he very ' - eisy to prove the tad of the injury (tette to the individual, tho Ugh, it'Would be very' didienlv to prove the malice, a, was to he done in the COnrt'orlitrg's As to the emeto ot the operation 'of . the nteasitre, he had not yet tirade up 11;4 wind upon the,hubjea, but he'tkas' efisposed to think that it should be condoed to the Counties of Middlesex and Surrey, as-was the ease with some ot the form et The Right H en. Geutleman wool] surely not pave, felt so minth surprised at the distineti6ii ehe had made bet ween the 'Magistrates paid for their • 'min icesi:ibe tools of , Governinent, and the respeCtuble 'Country -G e ode. en r mif he had not forgotten / the. jealoosy. with .j • %thief) the House had rec:sitred. the proposition fur, their establishment. • Mi.' Shiners HOIiRNE wished to knew', Whether' the Rig.!l Hon. Qentieman's measure was orcentrOel the pewer.itt Magistrates with regard t o the glide of out mei • tieences, or merely with respect to w:th tira ing i , ltitat. • Mr., SHl:alo4s did not mean, to interfere vt tilt t!1 power of ;.Vltig,istrates es to the o r igin it 4t.. Rces,, h u t purely to preizent the property and prospects ur iti dividuals''frboi being at the mercy of - rvldgistr,ites, who tai ;ht he influenced by ritistepreientatipti - . • .7%..e CHANCELLOR of the 'EXCHEQUER still 'contended, 'that there was no ground - for diStiuetion made by the Right Hon. Gentleman:: The Magistrates of Police were undoubtedly in'totne tu,asure paid for their :service.-e and so were the' J,ldges, yet 'no man would ;py that the adMinistra tion. of justice in our Courts of haw was there fore, to be Matter of suspicion. He i did not'thlnk , , therefore, that there was any gretind for the invidious, the odious distination - made by holding up the Police Magistrates as paid for their services, and the tools of Government. The Marquis of TITCTIVIELO: . thOnght it his duty to State, that since be had the honburof being Lord Lieutenant - of the county of: Surrey, some corn plaids had bean made to. him of the nature of those `cases stated by hs Right Hon. Friend - , : He had not the power of redress, but...referred. ttie Matt*. back to the Magistrates. In one case it appeared that the licence had been withdrawn froM misrepresentation,. and was' afterwards restored'. ► lie: believed, 'how , ever,, that the Nice Magistrate 4 interfered very little on the subject of licences.: . Mr, ASHLitY COOPER,; as a Magistrate of Surrey, wished to know whether the . Bill was to extend -to the whole `of' that County, .and if so, why.? Mr. Sttt.xtn.aer replied, that the Hon. Gentleman ought.rather 'to spew why the Bill should not tend to the whote oithe County. Leave was' then given 'to bring la the Bill. TRANSFIL,It Lord C.lsTLeitEAcu moved the Order of the Day for the further consideration of the Report of the Militia Transfer On the questiokbeing put, Lord HENRY PETTY, Wished to know from the Noble 'Lord, whether •it was his intention to bring in any Bill previous to the Prorogation to amend the General Training Avl; lierd CASTLEREAGH replied,' that a Clause bad been introduced into :the Bill 'for. completing the Militia, which authorised the , employment of the Ballot.under that Bill. Lord HENRY :Parry then was to understand, 'that the Clause alluded to by the Noble Lord, *as the only amendment intanded. • • Mr. WHTTBBEAD expressed surprise.'-that nci - other amendment than the Clause alluded to by the .Noble Lord had been proposed, especially as the Noble Lord had thrown such ridicule on the Train ing AEt, andin the contemplation of so tiacitnentops a - crisis something more ought to bedone. • .• • - Lord CASTLERE.IOI4 would be ready, 'when the subjed should be regularly before the House, tO, state fay the reasons upon , which ,he aded. On the question being put, , Mr. FRAA KLAN!) said, "that' no intimation of such a measure as that th4a in progtess-had been. given -either in the. List Parliament, or in the .early : pert of the preient SeisiOn. Tl:e consequence Was t . that 'most' of those 'Gentlemen who would' have desired to 'take a part. in . the 'discussion had left; towe beNrettiestiojeal was brought4orv.ard; He colup)ained 411:;0 01 the. Clatrie allowing the option to the vc;leti,t :ere IForti the Militia of entering' for limited orunlimited service, whicti bad, been intro duced in the . C;Jtranittett;after the principle .of the mic,isttre had* WO ,Zliscussetl, and a division had taken. place upon it. The consequence wasp that supposing, after that division. was n °n r e y l i i : 'Y 'r t s Gi u ' ' ' s i't p li e iti a le'el i t o 'be g alis i l l i lTs S plt S T a u t ra n n e t n a d' cl h a a a d sC ie l tenv lid be afterwards - introduced into the.' Bill. But- whether the ciakase 'were in itself iikely tai produce good or . evil he objected twit to ovOrpittt the exist ing,.yatetn.. .:As to the' measures of the Noble Lord,: th e y ,v,re . calculated to .break down the Militia, and het contended, tliat the Militia bad several advan-• tors oyes' the= 11 -Plars,. mid were as, etlic,ient for the d-fAice of the Country; as any Regulars.' He, t..o. g ht : that various descriptions' of service order to entage in the defence' of the Caubtry every person disposed, to o e a so ldi er , Willisciei;er way that etsposhion may be m a ne d to dispivitself read a passage Trent Blackstone, to prove that limited serviet . was most .. eousiStetit with the Constitution of England,. what every per.: bee-soldier for 'a certain number of years, Vit a nit l i a !abalidbning the character via ciiiien. Ida deknded ttie Militia Establishment; which he look ed,upiin. as Most consistent. - with the Constittition: lie ,deprecated any intention :of making an: induct attack upoiethe Systein lately instituted. it-was intended to 'overturn that system, let the attack be, inadedirea and Manfully. ' - Mr,.11/7111817 . ED XEENE , havitig himself serv. ! , ed.iirany kaiiipaiipts; tind having,- driring%le - years that he ht4l', been a Member of. that Meese, at tended to all the plans that had_ been proposed, and' the dieusSiOns upon them, bad' voted tbr the mea sure oow . before. the kouse,.. because his Majesty.'s Ministers hhd represented' it as best meeting the . eXigencST of the - ocoaion,, and because any great increase upon the Regular -Army could always' hp' soonest made from the The responsibility rested with his Majesty's Ministers if the,expecta tionS held forth sheUld prove. deficient. He under-. stood that Ilex( i , ear, m easures were ,to be.. brought, tbrward for evenilingi'lW - Tnilifiry :force of 'the- Con'titry in every shape; 'as: 'far 'as the resourceS • of the Country Would actiniq and. with .a view to that occasion, he begged, to. read a . paper ofluggestions ptit into his hands by an old' Colonel of Militia; who had served in that force se eady' as the fiche althe American.war: The:first suggestion .was to establish a local Militia, within the Cuitnt na. ; i thv whole to 10,000 men, to be trained 2t4 days in the - year and te'fill Up . by voikthteinii* froiiil this local Mtlitia the defidiency that would be occasioned by-a-- 1 constant volunteering from, the regular Militia /*the to the amount of one-fourth, ur t wenty . thou sand finely aniiitally. Thd' plain prtipoitd further, that the deficiencies 'created 'in r t he local Militia by mettos•ol... this I , olunteering,' should be tilled up by hctllot ;, thus the Staff of the local Militia should, When not J','-tually engaged in the duties of its prp rielrteeset t i a.btliiiiii-le t ent t , v he tar et;i l p i l i i i ) t y i3, eLI iann-dt7aitetiett-rgw,tilrict t . e s; VO: Nhje,ty's disci etion; discipliningthe, mass on, der AO. He theuget a plan of this WoTido utich to ittcrease toe ctn. • ' wive strength cry t;q. The,y. lie lamented the inconvenienco ,‘ a - -, , :,,.nines felt in' the, restriated seryiee by laW. The extension of the hip Militia to .Regland . , and:Of Militia to was Often matter u g n g i. e , s r t e i and luen'were most 'prompt and al•de-it to above mutual aid: He was satisfi...d at present to unfold his-s 1. ,. 4,e it i 1 y o tot n hesubstanceof winch he would enter a future occasion. , 'The St:CWT./I.llnd '1''.4,11 tilha . :.la it beytond a that Compulsion was < I he" ta , st efficient means 'of recruiting the Regular Aruiy ; but he doubted much wlkether it would accord with the habits; feelings, and - principles . of tire :peOple of thin country. He was anxious to dray the attention of the House to statements of fatt,'which 'would spew the substantial effeasof the varioas Military •Syiterns that lead been lately in' me, and he recommended 1 these statements of fact tb the notice of the House, in preference to. those . eloquent.detlamations and ingenious reasonings.which afforded no solid ground of decision.. The present mnsure.was intended to provide for the extraordinary emergency of, the oc j casion, and-by no means designed to interfere. with the!System introdnced .by the 'Right Hon. Gentle man opposite (Mr. Windham), Which would re sume .its full Operation , wheo . this .temporary: inter , minion should_have passed away. He did not con . ceivethat theiresent emergency should be left un provided for,-in- order cntry the experiment of. the 'uninterrupted prbgrliss ,of the' Right Honourable Gentleman's System. On. reference -to the Papers on the table it would be found, that the ordinary re cruiting under the systeM superseded by the Right • Hon. Gentleman's plan had . produced, in its, last lx months, 9,933 men, exclusive of those produ ced by the Additional Force, AO, and of boys, whom he would put outof.the.question in theconsiderat: tints of both systems;. for though much 'benefit: may at . a,future time be derived 'from thei se r v ices of the boys; lie thotigft that.in all considerations of present service, they °tight to beleft out of the at:. count. The number of, men yroduced by the new plan, in the six months, from January to June last, was g,091. He admitted, that the account of the men furit's)g4, undey the Additional, Fo ALA, contained merely the gross number as 'enlis,ed,. in dependent' of the defalcations of deseition and r.f-. Deduaing 960 ,forthese defalcations, which was more than - the . fair proliottion, :there was not room to boast much of the success of the Right Hon. Gentleman's plan.. A death blow 'had Moreover` teenigiven to. the Additional Force Mt, shortlyaf-': ter the commencement of the late .Administration ; so that in . the month , of June, 1836, it produced 400 men,, inStei,d of 1287, whiclrit ha 4 duced on an average of the first three months of that year. The balance was therefore in favour of the old system. .The sticeess of the new plan could not be called progressive,.. for 'it had produeed in the month of January as many men •as it bad .produced 'on an aVerage. of the slit months ending in June. — The. plit\ had been in the first months . successful kotpitsuovelty, in the middle moths it had fallen attd in the list it had been restored by the apr; , !' k pnntrnent of an increased number of Recruiting ()Ricers, andsby threltening the reduction of the se --coed battalions on 'the event of . their 'not- complet- . 14. - theii"cornpletnent.':. The casualties df the Ariny ,were tmder-rated at jf3,000 men. They amounted,, ,• it, faa, generally, to 'lO,OOO. In 1803, they amount - cd tn. 18,2324 .111 , 1866, they. amounted to only , 3,901,0 r, in round tiurubers, 14;000 : but in this retain, the.account from . Gibraltar. and Sicily ti's Made up only t Ist Decembe.: and the account* from tile. East and West blokes wq r e st ip, mo re im perf 4.4. The general calvalties of .the Army, s% ere, in faa, not less than ,18,000 men ; so that the Right Hcilionrable"Gentleman's . tneasnre, promising only an increase of 90Q0 men, would not cover so great a deficiency. A large proportion of the existing Army must belides be discharged at the end' of .tho' seven years service,' so that a still greater deficiency would arise. The House therefore. Wisely adopted this strong measure:in the existing emergent../0-1 , With resp::i.i to the diminution to to• have been etfeaqi in the desertions by the new plan, the 1101 counts On the table spewed but very trifling .differ ence. . Under the iormer system it was.. one 11,4" . ,Vhder the . latter it was 'one in $66 in Ple."A whottadjoitied, In 1805 it was among the•recruim, one in Iti ni men enlisted la life, and, afterwards it was'ono iu la or 13 for men enlisted for sorra years. Ho again urged the propriety.of adopting, some tree' sure of temporary exertion. The 'duper would not' in all probability arrive till Spring. ,The derange-. meat that would hive been produced ~4ould then : have subsided . , and every thing . would Wi l k resnined : its s, : ttled cburse. . . Dr..14,./1111kENCE censured plc-enfairnestt o f the, i attacks nhide, not direetly 4 but incidentOly, uP" .! the Lite aniiters. .'.rbepresfint :platy pr . ofessed it avoid interfering m - ith th , e plan introduced - Ili 4)6in HOU? F•rleaci (Mr. Milli Matti), to StlPerg C 7, a ;4 the exploded expedients taf fernier years : sut 1 • . 0 411: 1. 4 0 fuit.tlgulatinteleou ,y option ton s o h f oo e i nter th i a n t g , p t , l ) a r n l . i : f . e, , - T iit he vir rs tu , a y 6 Lord disliliedtlio•broad phikosophical. vie w or' hutod tt . natore;upon whien.his Right. Hon. Friend's plan vq g founded. T,he Noble Lord was right in co ndernoin,g, what. he could not comprehend. The Noble, Lord.O. mind could embrace nothing beyond a dry.l i st- of d e l,. tails, fr om w hi c h i t was irnpossiole. to draw any lee" timaie concluiion. -.Th e o ld systenthad tailed hcre c i as it had--failed in etsy country in 'Europe • 31 no new system would , Oe Auceesstul, unless it pro' ,ceeded- on the ,philosophical principles„ which the Noble LOrd . tE.eti;cl to sneer at: .The lionourit ble Secretary . at War, ' in comparing his accounts 0 recruits, had omitted to state, that unui.r the former S. Iteift they were found at - thirty 'guineas a "itialli 1.0 - bile - under the w pre , ent they were found . at I ' . " ' guinea's: , - The inn..ti under the former sYstein. \vac' under size, and beyond age ; Jt.was unfair In , ' l3 !'"- -press the advantage iti—pelpt. of boys, for- it -wits °', • material Ain:neat; Ti:e.lat t ; ',Government bad n ot had the same facility in the execution. of it , flier sures as. the last, particularly in some of the Puul' a ()dices-that had most to do with this 4thiOollB. expedients adopted in , '.lte cou. se of the la,t ve'x i bad been aiways disapproved of by his Itight Roo: Friend, even when'lie was- in lattice, thong!) he low been obliged to yield to them. The spleni hal ) ); &teed ok his Right Honourauje friend to supersede noes e eipedients, by. rt:st•-•9 l i'll iti g ,permanent measure. He disapproved of the oidit , i f t road and canii. in Keet; as affiirding I , ' the 1)(• 1 "Y ‘ot supHy ut ca t. r t;,ree cOul u ht. driven di time. Over three brido• n _ I .ll , kit%li he di I n o t t 4 k it rigle to s. e.th so. " t : teinlitUOUSly_ Of till: .e . retic,, ptepauttm 2 itir os •-- Der as to call thcni: a-tuusgutto tax t, and-the ot h er •