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■ r .~ 21, If this sihertdment were objected he would not press it. Mr. WtLisoT knew of , these wo►ds to the motion. The oodou was altered Wag b► sod Cbspier on vet Campo,. ay rrs.x. -i ,-- Tho Chaireit:tieta of the ' tOtclltQUtl - nitivetY ,_-able . written!, /file rid use& the•Ordeir of the Day for the House . going . Into a e clear airlines* •He vouched far ift•due opt* , Cientmldne. 4 cation of every shilling voted for theie .works., "is litlis wished to puttees when they were to The Honourable Member ought to be setisheil„ have the Reoeivere-General Bill before them. He were it only on behalf his conetitiments—all . the wit (M 4.44 his whiles aliens hare the Superanottation stone uied was Aberdeenshire gra n it e , Cousidetiog. hell: peened on, that they might come at the ache. , t h e l osses an d waste of "many incur re d by the coon -4 ole. daffier, ta be ounewed to it. ray, including twenty millions ot Amorists loses, to -Tea entairext.Lon of the Excneteto wade • soy nothing of a serail site of buildings in the atimetieskh• was not distinctly entlible. M e dway, which had ail disappeared like the ma. .11r. MG. Biattierr expressed his regret that be shiner iof au Itirlequinaile,.he thought there could had not beep present to oppose the allowances to the b e no last came to complain of so serviceable an First Lord otthe Admiralty and ins Secretary whets odaptation or the public money, The prerereece was they were voted. All he could do tide was to - miter moat properly given to thegroonde Sheerness, on his teem* erasure each very large grind t. uctiattot - of the river. He hen image completely . Tag House then went tette a Committee. fitted, throegh o low run of tide in ping down , SIXTY ESi'll 4 / 4 1115, from Chatham, grounded and forced tit be again "Sir 3. lartecae moved that 154,2001. be granted put into dock. He explained the partictlisewerke • fur improvements in the tiock-y er d s i n 1821. .. (or the completion of which the vote was semililtr i • Mr: Hein recalled the attention of the House to 'tomtit, the works between I Powder . Monkey whet passed be this hem b e fore. It had bite y 'and the Great Basin, which by Juig or AG • *tared that a conside ra bl e reduction had taken place ust would be ready to receive ship, of the line... s i n it is swi n e years—iturs it was very lately e assured the honourable Geutlemon that 450,0-Ih/ , and was now reduced to 154.0001. He though a few accidents, there was no material 'Abject,* to the graft for the Sheerness works. He breach made by the sea, io the regress of the , hell sead'irat •yeer that they ought uot to ley out more works, and not the slightest settlement' of sand had .tnernt7 until they were informed through inquiries taken place. There would be twenty-seven feet of Were a Commute of the Howie, if the engineers water id front of the basil., enough for the largest thought it right to .proceed. In 1814 these greet &Menke, with all her stores and cqUipOlieob, tondo weeks had commenced, it being then estimated in. Ai to Plynnoutli.Breakwater,e read a letter, *het 844.8921. would complete them. Like all From which it appeared that on a very stormy night other ertienates of public works, it fell short—. all the merchantinent bad rode out the tempes,t they lied expended 1,131,0001. There, were behind it, arid that not ss. worth or damage was (15,000/. demanded for the sense works this year, done to spy ship* in the Surma ter CatnateroqeePt wad it was tattooed that they would reqiiire to one indiscreet. Freoclunan ; whereas foraterly,..ia titoa,ooo/. more. The total would then be every . south-weat gale. signal gum of distress used e s temeocii. In the present distressed situation of to be firing through the Sound odl night. .„ , . the century, wed the uncertainty as to whit bunt • Mr. ,G. BlNNlFET.queetiosed the nen:mitt, of Would he molly siequired, they ooght not to vote keeping .° many.dock l yards., If aft•the works M more money intik they ascertained If the work was She/poem were wanting they, award scarcely nerd to proper to he tarried on farther or not. There keep etiCbathato yard, from.,which it was said to Ives some quetition; ea he understood, betw e e n he difficult fur ships to get . dowo the river. He had the Rhoite of Puilleet . end Sheerness . for the site heard the assurances of ,the approaching completion of these *Wm The former had him given. up, of the works, eed.on that account he would coo ns he understood; solely on account of the diffi- tent to the resolution. collie, 'of the riser navigation, which had been Sir G. Ct,sait said, that the. original estimabe lieweereamted by the improvements in Steams boats. fur DU for the elu d e of the , present works at -The largest Incliaman was now towed .up or down Sheerness. Al to Noithileet,the estimates delivered 'be Iflemits against (rind and tide without soy dif. its the time for buying down and romp)eting the Scotty. He hod heard that at Sheernent the foun- .weeks there were 10,000,000/., and then • great dation had turned ant to be mere qeicksand, anti lit 'of the Sbeeruess works must have been thembeira wear telt lad Upon Piles driven into the cost i tme d . . . . nand ;,. ereveval considerable accidents had already ~ et • mi wall • ',Arse. naiaLss satisfied as to the e*XVl•wellion occurred. and in 1828 • large portion or the wan . • maneoline the Sheen works; but he wished to w e s debars . dower by the incursion of the sea, ... • • hen mattnawg mere respecting the wagtail which it a liar of •several hundreds of thoetsnds of wee ie./Agrees at Bermuda. From 1811 to 1820, pounds., . He. bad heard the ?pinions of ring» shoaled earn' 243,0001. expended on that nude,. neat . thlohttOlt the propriety 4 r in g • Co *lth *eking. The estimates for completing the works the works ; some, of testate were of *patties that were origiaelly 204,0001. He thought that they it., would te e less. expensive I. give up the at nook to be welLassured of the propriety of expend- I)(1 " 14 It "164465 ald begin thleill 'Mir' iiiiiinere ISO . Hr was aware that station was lindhetst...... e thwarted the managemesit of fair the key to the lest , Itodiso Archipelago, and that the Lis works under a Nerd. No single Board emelt* it violet to nifty. en :war* so contiguity of the islands to North America might noise 0640 , to appoint a ono.. snake , in necessary. lie should be happy to hear evidence of , the moot ibis engt that t he sums were properly applied, and that they preeerded to vote that sum. er ~e were wet going to be drawn into a gulf of expense ant of 20,000/. or 15,0001. to go measure. which they could neither fathom nee ail the Committee could pro- Sir G. COCKBURN said, that the Admiralty had He would move for.n.rodoc- sent out an experienced mid very sensible man, amount in the respolutawn. i, ,Mr. Jewels. who had reported, that they b a d s e lected about to pat that as se ea Bermuda the only secure place fur an harbour. s: Arty-; . 7 They had no reason at preterit to suspect that more ••••' • I only one subject in Um , money would be required. Whatever it might cost party on p oi lfeti b ir yogh. would be expended under the superintendence of .. • - . • Commissioner, with proper officers, to prevent • - . - 4/ 4 1.- - " c i t44,,, abuse err inismanavement. ited that it w sim 7 - 0 on the first obilnetjosti end ; , Sul.. COFFIN said, that when he was at Sheer . don go to the next. nem, a ship of the line scarcely ever came down from Mr. Hun; said, that his objections referred to Chatham without going aground. loottictilarserhich'itrOlitt - included in this one vote. Mr. Baton/ would support the restriction. He He obbeti to mattes few remarks on the eXpeusea thought that the naval works ought to be kept up, :Sir• Plymouth Ifr.eikwater.' Last year it took an d espec i a ll y t h ose at B ermuda, a central po i nt, 100,0init ; a Wirraesell sum would be required equally strong by sea and land, end which would this year. &it thi question was, how the work certainly be warded in case of any misunderstand -eras to be tarried' onl it required an establish- ing with America respecting our Colonies. He mencto eoudttet it of 5,4001. He knew of no ob- I thought that another station ought to be taken jection to the citenifetioo Of the work, but if it somewhere in the Gulf of St. Lawrence. There wereto be finialstret t. the cheapest way would be to was a new world both of commerce and wauspring- Ithdre a larger grant., do it in half the time, and save lug up in that hemisphere, and we should require lhalf thee:perm eftliesuperintendingesiablishment. greet maritime ertablishments to he kept up there, - He called on' the' Committee to consider that be- that we might he prepared fur any geniis in which tween Nur and five &Mums had been expended on the future destinies of the nations might engage mi.. intpeovements in thick:yards since 1811. After Sir 3. YORKS and Sir I. COFFIN added a few making some reference to. the abandonment of the word. each on the Sheerness work.. works;fitTrinconialee, and the conduct of those at Sir G. C nuns said that all the efficient pur sLonsieo. he concluded by moving, that instead of poses of Plymouth Breakwater were obtained. 154,000/. the sum should-eland 1.4,000/. Directions were given for a gradual diminution of Sir'. Olitoan""Mid; that the money wanted to .the persons employed, and if it were not done pa stiche good the old weal' at Sheerness was oat dually the neighbouring parishes would be overran 50.000/.1 the othet 15,000/. bei4 for the new smithery and hoddingi.., As to the choice of titua- with them, tins's, had North-fleet Jock Pu•fltet, all the Hun. Mr. Heitz war glad of the expla n ations whi c h Meniber hid supposed) beenadopted for the corks, had taken place. He thoeght the Admiralty the expense mutt have been qiiadrupled. The ex- wrong in trusting to the opinion of Mr. Jestiop pear of the establishment at Plymouth Breakwater alone eta to the Berniuda harbour. He could aell was Ow lightest part 0 the charges. There would recollect how timely errors of calculation the late he no cheapness in doing•tbe work in half the time Mr. Re ssss ie was led into, among which the Caledo nian Canal iris one consider a bl e i n st ance . He to save the salarietord.he establi s hment. Ste d. Phut, ((Ailed 'fete subject into three admitted that the estimates of Plymouth Break branches :—First. if I.t.eferepriginally right and fit water had been larger than the exiienditure—the i to undertake the "% ' cite's' "Orin. ;. secondly, if, af• orr instance of the kind that co u ld be men ti one d d ter etobaang in theist, It would be . now hitting to fi r er all the public works. refuse the public rnotiez . , for proceeding . , yids. the4:Yoat it said a few word s . them; . thirdly, if 'they. eight -to reduce Alut ..teed J. RUNCLL said that th e House and c o o n . vole Gobi they beard' (rim a Committee of the , -try mast he satisfied that great discrimination and 1 House that it was moat proger to proeee4. ta l ent h a d been employed o n t h e p u bl ic wor k s . H e He thought that • .iii C o aimitt e e was riot the :alsoped that 110 expense would be spared to complete most proper place to hre.suchqtrtion• settled.,..thein. Ministers dl understood thageneral call Go lfe rested how eatefel,ri . l6, - .hito Ir . Wottsitilk , economy if they applied to those audertairings, Hinidart, and Mr. -.1..;110046 . had : bero examireet : wt. Viichfirere necessary to give security to our poems. the subject of these very works htfose i their meta,- oa r t home and ;Abroad. •,.. wlenceme"'t sod th e . t!il'ulmw- t et h u ch. 0114 's e tri Aire few word. from. Sir G. Commute. the taken by the Navy Boer en". lhaskiroll, rs nnieprinient was withdrawn, and the resolutions Whubis Me; iteolties otht't rimipm. .1' itio#oo ell a g reed tu, were *filmed. to be reported to Gen. Benthom. The n emorooldsimad , um . .I.tf_tt"___ . t et enHielitttrs•A°oo ` e o re t t alfilhlot • ,'. - : TriXTlathrtill. ,__. - • ...e. Aue esrmitile, bad net Owns* we ore errismolge•lairg loored Ittat likaatt r Uilitt these For Plyaromb I . loaJtelnat OA in. *air . . _.IIIIP • beetle nottoiste4l, Of . ..i. . . •. • : Aer.,...7 . .. •.•:aiti 4'../thc. pat ' "may ` . Ao s loe..illorrect utibept cants *ip . slie. the !joust my i'lettee to irdte the evidence tieep"before thy/ grecteded yotari'ree to a grant of 2( tin 1641 k -the works until the cis{! OAinformation. Hs *till, — ofto.ooot. io tie Imo' The„ CgAIRIACK was .ob amilnitatetit. . Mr. Notts said thesras •enviruste; there wire - other - ett to gist frt. questions. Sir .1, Yeast* 'Omitted tOtltirde the Committee on rcJr- , .~,,... ••!wwn Ireiresory Jenny ertipeetea elf Mead cavalry also. Were 16se charges paid out of tit, Treasury at home, or front the releases of the jellied', or through the Culsoial Office? He *Goghs that there *elk le be four or he garrisons reduced .t least. He wished to bear the intentions of Goverenient as to the future ex- Tleaditure under this head. He strongly objected to the taxes levied on the inhabitants of Gibraltar for keeping up tbettarrieon without the direction of Parliament. toed PALMERSTON said that there was no charge in theeevenne for Guenter, sad Jersey beyond what was to the uttneates, all other expenses were paid out of the revenues of the islands. The militia were called out once a fortnight, led were Is a high state of effective discipline. The garrison of Gibraltar was neutered as it bad been for a considerable length of tine. The foreign garrison altogether were less ex pense by 3or 4,000 f. that I. 1792. He could `ice no expec tatioe of reducing the expense for garrisons. Some few unless appointments had been suppressed. The Governorships were ratrally giver, to Green, Olken who had weed well, sod as fee as hi had soy lellsence is the House, they should never be reduced. They were konoorible rewards fee diattaguiele ei nißifary settler, and it world be seem that the Coosnalh ier.insChief had gives thew is every instmwe, just as the public would wish, to ammo/ the Mgteu oreaareats of the aretairy. The Finaree Canaanite bed approved their dis tribution In the highest teems. There was a soul ipereise in the estimate., comparing them with lest year. That was to be accounted for by the omission last year of a few smolt Rees, which were sow ordered, saltier altogether about 6961. • Mr. RO BERT SMITH node some rentarkswet the AMP§ foe lie clullaimismiloguipsumte of the Mead cavalry sad Lord PALMHaIer ON, and • M Member whose same we could e*.t leers, said a few weeds each. Colonel DOVIIIS contesded, that it would be moth more hounerable br tig army, sad ad's/mimosa to the service, that these rewsd! for ontrierdimary military services should be disposed of by the vote of Parliament. There was oat a elation abroad which wee est, a scene of entravoganee add profusion. asfar u regarded the number and impetus of dm appointitesits on its establishes's'. Allr. HUME, said, he should be glad to know from the Illesuerable Member opposite, whether the militia is the lifted of Guernsej were actually called nut every fourteen days; be believed they had opt been called eat for the lost six months. it would be ebeerved... that she islands of GllerbOeY Rtersey were *pm a different fooling la that respect. were ebti appointments conatantly kept in Onawhichthere were net Is the other; and there were also ether circontelances of ctrirereere which reealmed the militia in oei libel* to be milled oat more frequally thap is the either.. Thou island" were_ about the happiest places wider the sun, for they paid taken lo sobodl—(!1 —hod 7 4 they bed the Yell buiellt of all the proteellos which this clunk, could - give them. He conebeded that they imagist p 1 eoilpsmit to pay tie ensues of their own establishments. estahlialmatots were too large in every branch if service, military, militia, and ordnance; sad he called upon GOMIIIDeUi to tarn Its serious attention to ladle log them as lee u possible. He did set mein to restore or. to derogate from the 'welts of say individuals those appolutmests, whkh be conceived 10 be saucer tory ; the appolutsseets sited very possibly be gives to herese but deserving per**, but as the case stood *fy er = epee to abuse, and might equity as well be gives to r VW hod no claim et ell e, the service. Colonel GOSSETT said, the militia mulioned by the lismourable Member were calltd oat not only every fort. sight, but every week. He was cenadent the Governor wee paid oat of -the rev of the island. Sir I. COFFIN mid, those islands were part oldie Norma. *elate of the Crown. They hudiaresed a pert of the domi nions of she Crowe of this kingdom since she time of William the Coliqueror, sod the *habitants bad elegy. bees amongst the most loyal of its subjects. Me. H. G. MINN lITT said, it was not his wish to semi. lyle the connexion which had so long tubsisttd between the Woods in question sod this country; he bad rather do OR that eseld be done to keep them still together, sad therefore sboold wish to preveut them from heiog roadstead untie. I caturily burdensome. by the number of sinecure haled kept op on their establishments. It was unrest, that those olden Mere Mantra held h, persons of respectability; and it was mid, that a long list of illestrinue names could be pro. *need, of per.ooa who had filled that.. He did net doubt but it might be an, but the use might also be said of say other Dace, mid iudersi that was the argument that wee always seed against any reduction of places of this sort. Thus Board of Trade, he remembered, had been defended* ellp same way, by eddueMe the names of Gibbon, Addles, sad oiler celebrated preemie, who had held situations its Het office; bet the character of the persons we. not the quie ting, hut the necessity or eoevenieoce tut the public *role* of keeping up officer that were useless is themselives.• The Noble Lord took great credit for reducing the appo;ntments Of morgues in some of the garrisons; now his local know. ledge of one of the places where that reduction had been mode, flerwictmpon-Tweed, *gabled him to say that the marrou mat an officer that might have bees kept up, fee at limes be +aground to be of greet seretee. But there were other appointments of which no thought of reduction seemed so he gaserteleed, such as the Town Major, Town Adjutant, pad ushered that description, for which be knew no resew, why they should be kept op, as they wire of uo manner of use or 'melee whatever. Mr W. SM ITH raid. that acme of the Governer* were not only of no real we, bet had not evert the benefit of that plea* (moor of their being keitt op, which had bees tweed by the Noble Loed is rapport of the generality of such ap pointeteuts; that they served as useful rewards fur distill. puked military services. Fur he was perfectly certain, Tryst his own personal boos ledge, that there bad bees Governors of the isle of Wight who had is the army at all, nor ever belt any other military ap poisinseut.—(Hear.)—He dill not know who the pommel Governor was; he shoold therefore be scqtritted of es invi dimes allusion se him. The-q. wee ,aiso some yeses ego a gentleman. of Airborne of 'Harkness, holding the appoint meat of Governor of Darionsath Castle, who watt, inched, a Member of *kat House, bas whe had Newer performed any service, nor hid he ever been in the army at all. buck appointments as those certaiuly ought to be aboli.hed. Lord PALM ERSTON said, it ass perfectly tree that the Governor of the Isle of Wight, alluded to by the Hououre tile Member, had never served in -the army. But at the time of his being appointed to that office, he gave up the reversion of a pension of 2,0001. a year, which bad been given to his father for great 101 l meritorious serric.s, with POlLlinElef PO hi. for his life, is exchange for that appoint ment, which gave hum 1,280/. a year; PO that • saving was thereby effected of 800?. a year. The suffice; however, was the number of those Which were to be alio ..tea is 11.0 extueetion of the exist's( Interests. The Grieroonbip of Dartmouth Castle, he apprehended. woe • set to be considered in the yam light as she others, Cori* constantly resided there. It bad been determined to abs. fish the Mimeo's, eY the garrisons because they were coos& *eyed useless, yet that determination was sow made the sub. jest of censphriot. The appoistment having become !scent WI Berwick, it was sot deemed proper to 11l it op; and be did not know what local hoowledge could hove enabled the Hon. Member fur Shrewsbury to spesk to she asefolaese of 14e Mike, unless *deed be might Lave had some acquaint. bete wit% the perms who in% tactile %tamale t candidate foe tbeaundomumat, whets abilities be might have swpposul would have bees wervieeelsle to the weighbeuthenil. He did thisik the prinaple OOP which these appuiatimeets bad hers Wiecied W we. meal meemistiattioual. It wit admitted Mat owe* rearm di ought to be gives for military services; It said thet *bile they were at the disposal of the they mato open to ahem in lbedietrihwelow, Avid 11110dbell it was necessary that they should be take, sato the PWP WIT lands of the House of Coiner. Now he would may that (be principle of such an objection was wooly . at variance with the constitution of tile Couetry, and wee Outgoes* with the signet dauger to its liberties.—(H ea r) — l t was Neces sary fur the stability of the iostitgatmes of the country, it was for the safety of the Constitution, that the •rafatt winifiery sereketi. gel tie eerire emr-. . regulators of the army, should be le the batch 'ii . Crown (hear, beer); aid if ever the day sbOold cone Xi" that power. WAS- taken. hem the Crowns, on tint disk •seisiel be meek the deathrbtow of Mae Britlbh Coostitution. f si lle gass ers.) . • int DAVIES said, that the *mite of Coebemen was iniliOnall'elheek upon the Crown lit the d.stributem If the Horne ofCiononons hail en the.rtglle of ifiturferiog, what was to prevent the 'Ooveruneot free creating er greeter somber of such appointee's, oho. et present existed? There would be nu difficulty in ieleetiot eaters whose servites• were deaervirig of firth,. ida eyed. he-fay, from any • danger in the Constitute,* %Woe •to be apprehended horn the House of Commoob exertions this morn over the poldic Wirer, that was one of its best safeguards. • The &mettle of the Nettie Lord, tint it wee untoestiosiimml in that linen to exercise a cheek, epos groves of thin nature to military offiefes, woe one which he hod sewer beard before, and he hoped be should never hew figein.—(Cheers.) Mr. C. W. WYNN said, if It were • maxim Not heard be. fere is that Havre, if it were a principle new to the Couitld tutiesudothe reentry, that the Crown was the foontaingle homier emit reward, 'hes certainly the doesriee of his Noble Friend wele. sew; but be apprehended that the constant or Parliantoot woold.prove that it woe otherwise. rhily e Mee h Person was elevated to the Peerage as au herseefey reward for services, and his ciimmostaNcee were such me rendered it advisable to grant a ;cosies for one orierade lives to enable him and hi* heirs to support the divan its s ' becoolieg unoner, the wisedkof We Message from obi Crown, mil of the voile of the Home for that purpose were, "To enable his Majesty to make • nimble provienn," anti not fur 4 the House to genet such • provides," If Ilde officers of the army were to be tight to look for thrice,. ward, set to the Crowe, but to that house—(" Hepe, iwoo r r "No, orr")—it was contended I the argum al for the IP. election of the culonelcics of maristes that the naval ought to look for reward to (hat House—(Hear, if that.principle were to be established, they would and those who began by. petitioning for such reward would one mod with demanding it.—(llear, hear.)—lf they looked I. the history of the country, 11 they looked to the history of the parliamentary arny, they woeld then mod an awful Intros on the mischievous polity of tendering the army lode. pendent of the Crown. lint be also objected to the prim. dplr of the House taking to itself fhe theleibutioe 0(.1•• wards' for public enviers on, soother gassed. Such Mode Ina always the toast extravagant and expensive; for, olstwever the eaten of individuals were brought bef. re that Moose for derision, it was fouled that they were always received with greater favour than whew left to the diseret get Of the Crown, or of any Minister. Aoy measure Moines, its object to draw rosin the Crowe, it'd to Feat is that Home the power of rewarding military merit, Anil be subversive of the Constitution. Colonel DAVIES said lie had nereerritlertafitta as We. lta shooed as that of wishing that the Haase 4004 hive the pelwevisfotrigisating the congideratiou army otiose, plains. He tete well enough that constitutionally any ohdos .for pecuniary teward or emolueseet noel Amen 4111 the Riot tastier. from the CloWn. Mr. C. W. WYNN raid, that the rule ',it* Heine WWI /Equind tilt claims for pecuniary grants should retinas 1W sauctiob of the Crowe previous to their.heing lakeu into WOW• sideratioh; was not a rule of the Constitutiom bet a rest,. Latins livened by lie House for the guidance of Be Gets pro ceedings, and rested entirely ou its owe sane of its pro priety sad usefuleress. .Mr. H. G. BENNETT ; at pretest far a tering sun, an Joggrgen4on fee is eploofolooptoo. *Bees of a particular ginerrip. ion, which wee, beetpeothee reword, upon particulat racers ; sad it Mil itahrab4 l, dtscretipo of the House to groat or withhold the Met asked for, or any particular portion of it. New it appeoro4 to kip that it would be quite as safe that the Homo shoeld decide upon the partierslsr claim, of tbet iudividoolhp such .sere, Ors a osessige fret' the Comes, initials foe the primi 7 @ION to be wade is the particular inotsnees for the reward if the *vetoer.s of dune persons. Mr. HUME said the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. C. W. Wynn) had endeavoured to divert the *Oration of the Committee from the Inestien before them to a subject of s different nature, which no one had thought of meddling with. The erßsit itiTof the Ndble Lord had been precisely the same in princlipleas that made use of oe • former night, that unless offices were necessary to support the inflorece of the Crown; but ff he erderstood •i all what the brawn, of Government, according le the Constitution, should really be, it was the inflormee arising out of the disposal of thboreet tionber of useful offices necessarily existing both et home and abroad. That was the legitimate influence whieb the Monarch ought la, possess; and the question he should call upon the Committee to consider was, . it was willing to sanction the keeping of useless o=re increase that influence. When the legitimate means aaihe disposal of the Crowe were inefficient for the reward of Beeler services, let it come to Parliament and ask t • provision should be made fur the purpose of supplying deficiency, hod when was there an in•tauce kerma of a rm fusel' 'rut Crown wee not weeth supporting, which cupid INK be supported by the legitimate influence it posseen4 I. the rii•tribution rifiveresrary Appointments. He penned. against the doctrine of the Noble Lard, and those who voted with him to-nottre would vole in effect foe the perpetostid* of the odious ernes of oho cures. H. should move therm fore, with the view of ascertaining bow many advocates Mee* were for. she eoistionsnes of these intros Alice., a reduction, of 12,3441. in the vote under consideration. Before be east down he wished to ask the larble Lord whether the Fauna Committee did aid rerumined the reduction of Fort Ars. prom and Fowl Willis., and the allowances to the Gm , * Bora of some other plum . Lord PA LM ENS re N*aid it had b•en intended to abolish the garrison' warmisionl by the Hon. Member, but tm forlher ConsiderationA was toot thought proper to do so. The a te. Member had coin 'mistaken his (Lord P.'.) argument. H. had not mid that these oilers were necessary to the supped of the influence of the Curets, but that they were sorrow, to reward great military services, sod that the power of die. 'dilution of rewards. fur sock services was. constitutionally vested in the Crowe. Mr. It. SMITH thought the House of Commons had to 41 ‘fficle" Purrstes w control over the impri•per exercise Of Ilse power of the Crows., in the power wh oh it rovsessed of saintruning, refusing, or atodifyiue the grunt , if money applied for, to enable the Crown lu Carty its intentions into .Alecto—(Cherrs.) • Mr. W. SMITH said the Gevernoiship of Dartmouth Imight as will be abolished as that of th. Isle of .1i light. The residence of the Governor did slot slier the case ; fur ftrie 'residence of* person, not a military msn, for the porpow Cif defending a military post, was as ahsorditir. 11 sits sped to the cutustiostional view of the question, the Consti. Onion did put require any particular number of offices to he Ike* •p; mil it was competent to the House to abolish them if it thought it. Mr. R. Sill EH said, the removal of the rpinefum was practically • the same as fettering the principle itself.— Whst was INICIMIsry war, that the Croton ghoul.' pis the power of bretowmg efficient rewards for military Sni • ice After a few words from the CHANCELLOR of the EX. CHEWIER, Mr. MONEY, and Mr. H. O. BENNIET• which were ivawdible in the gallery— Mr. HUME said, the vote comprehended two dislinet heads: one was for the garrisons at home, and the otlwr for the garrisons abroad. The object 01 his rme .iitist ut was to reduce loth those heads, as each compreheiiiird • number of entertions that • ere complete sinecures, hi Id by ludiviiki•la not residing is the gsremous, smuisritiog to wooly 13,0001. Some of Ilion were at Othealeste mud the Cspe, borh of which had revenues solifirient fur the support of their owe eats. blialigneets. The others were at Quebec, Fort ‘filliam, sort Argosies, Berwick, Hull, nod Chester. The Committee thee divided son the emendates , of Mr. Hu . Ayes Hole Meinity , • ected to by Goeernisent amount at first. The fact was, as stanch work I.nd ° E m pti e s:d am , n eete liiCi a 'w ei s s s io agee hel e ina d ti:; also 1,9031. for Genital Lands of the Douse a Coss not been at first contr./spieled.. %s t i p* itt taking the principle of suet ate. alto on the wen resoleti oe he rentiee 103.9841. ss. 3d. fur with the constitution of the C no objection to adding d o wn part of an old wall s or deasesisoof . olsi ki n d, 111 pettievet garrisons et home sed oheaol— . the sawitotiaoger to its libel Menet" Irak SSW* (hi t t' I'lk she*, .•ild thee Mr. HDISIE hoped to ese eiiiitidersble retractions take my fur the stability of the lea accordingly, and g e s t :escilved, to skip e w ho e, so It primed in plate is this hew. The eseablishosent at Berwick aught to was necessary for the safe', nes!. The dilfttielol,Atagjo gniensjpe_ haitiplisAri allegethe r . is pau ess i s i e d of utslluee bet sine." 'lsar/mot- aswoedeue Winery tVolliiiiiirriiin -- Orere L iiii nO ' foovr jewiteid To stdri: Pe "rev. Ho wished to hear sinisethleg more about those 'or nal sad . riTelatio• of the i of the Crown (hear, hear); a thefts* ogisiusethe Res =l . that the ground wet inconvenienlip t o G r ar i i r egd Jersey i Be aarite pm lid the. espeaditata - etc If or militia. Of the latter, he made' stood that when that power "AL token . Forty or fifty, ships bad laid skid* slily wanscaned oat every s ni osis and yet they were in a W ou ld b e strut die deitth-bh there in the course. of time, and It pOO/1 poor ai m s o f diecipi," Were thaw sooooo m to he N ew t i s —m oucts .) .. . the *ittillilktilitSW , VVel like immense trouble to rernotte the driftud as I ke the Treesory or Anti e .,a; us ? There were troops Cttassel DAVIES laid, diet • The reel of 6,715111. Its. 9J. for garrison{ in irslead Baal abed arced to. The meld grist moved was the ,ram of 137,t971. I Is. 4d, for full pay few retired sad wastineht d officers en t h e cata. blialment of the army in Civet Britain. hy r . HUME sad , this charge hid gone ea Periled, ip. almdmr lama of late berm musideroldraue. melded by what he rensideied a gross abuse, The e ffi c . ca of the veteran brainless* were utlowel to retire off full pay. Thom bettatioant were /armed fee temporary purposes, mg to dli i tip th e oppoininseals the Noble Lord *elected .uri, officers ai he pleased from the half-pay mid from the furl limy, snow of whoa{ wens. oily me year i n th e service. Of the ggy o ffi cer s uppriale4 to them, 68 Were takes from s h e full pay, and !TO from the half-per ; ae4 eeieeee a. the teMmirary purpose if their orgaantstioa was answered, th e ballades wire reduced ; evil those offing retsro4 on fill-pay. 4e increared temente was thereby roteikg ua the cohetry of 13,000:. *oiler this bead of ch ee . ; and taking it at Itrerre years' purchase, it atimunted r e 154,0901. The Lefeatho of Parliament is sestrtnialag IM orgoeitatina of shone veteran battalions was, whet ram pyh,. cer eliesahl be appointed lb them abs did not ;Wedge, • certificate of liability to perform active serviee form age or *suss bodily hurl. But of th ose actual ly eie, pointed, there was ono who had oily het. four Inn I. Om service; sad after being one mood, la.a attar.. bettalion be wee allowed to retire oo fulling. There was a perm, aimed Pritchard ; who, tbough he had try lowed is three amps, had only served use rat is all. Ne was appointed to the corps of waggoners io 1794, and plae h t on half-pay is 1795; where be remained till Jemmy Igil. when Immo appended to • veteran battalion, ailed, .6, 4 disbanded la tho nerd month, bathes retired on full per, ale concluded by nioadnia redaction Is the adommt of the peat of 13,8701, rig a . ** the amount of the addition to Ai, head of charge b lho gamma, of those ulcers from Milf-pay to full pay. Lord PALMERSTON said, the 'eyelids osi which the officers of the veletas battalions were allowed to retire oh full pay was, that they gave up all promotion in the may, and common' fur life in the mak to which they were Imam_ ed in the battalion, add as • compensation, when the halls lion was diabooded, they retired us full pay. The Hamm able Centime, was mistakes in supports; Hilt the Aet to which he alluded required • medical certificate of Meapaggy to nerve, in order to qualify an officer fur being placed in as, terse battalion. Whet it required was , that alien m um, r belonging to as exisilag regimeat of the line.or to • Viitillr battalion, wished to retire, be abould produce slob a turn', date; but the case of an appointment to se effective ems. mission is a referee battalion was wholly differem. With reapeet to Mr. Pritchard, the Comenitiee, be did sot dasin, would And his ease perfectly satisfactory. That Oceanian was residiag in Flanders in the early part of the war, and all his property was toollrented by the enemy. In roes dere. ties of tli tte con claim hehad ,et oe I t o thheseervouicrep,, of waggoner,,beoasspiet. ed by which woo reduced Irt the foliowing year, shin be wes plae.d cm half pay. He became in consequence moth distressed, and, is coosiderstion serf big state, he was appointed to a fed commission Moue of the vegetate battalions. Mr. HU3IE said it was a must extraordiaary eretiewa of the attentios of the Government to the claims uses it for the luso of property its its service. that indmdual rained la that mariner should bare bees allowed to imam Is peony on half-pep for 2S peas, while coin inlwioas wire stein day sires away, and them at loot be plated un fall. pay. He attain contended that Use principle of the retrrao battalions bad been di parted fcpea, by the epoointowet of poesy mew from the hali.pay, who were able to motor, and allowing them afterwards to retire on Lord PALMERSTON said, *hen the veteran battalions were lest formed, all the coatosiasinaa were Aged rp from the retired Rat; bet whew the officers joised, a vest sissy were found so crippled as to be snit few soy service, and t►eir •.easeies were Alled up from the half pay. The Hon. Member had, with his usual iwrousistency, irstcomplaiwod that two teach was done foe Mr. Pritchard, sad su as es. pinsatios of his claims, turned rowed sad complaised Oil lb. other aide,. Haat be dud beep two idlibreally rewarded. Mr. HUME said, the isconeisteary was iu the coadact of flowtramest sad not in his. He would nut put t►e Com- mittee lu the !zombie of dividing, as the numbers appeared 19 kilot the tame as before.- I Laughter.) The ameoduseat was Ors eitgatived, and the original sum rristed; as also 7,9371. for a limiter chart. iu Ireland. The nest grist priipooed was the sum of 730,5001. for half pay to redured Wirers us t►e establishment of the army in Great Britain. Mr. HUM HUME mid, lb 181110itheit the amount of this charge mu 842,00 U. for the Won of the kalf-pay and allowance. to reduced officers us all the estahlishmento of the army, ihs Finance Committee said as annual orductios might be ex. peeled of that amount. •But iu 1819 - it was „!681.001 1890 1821 •nd a iw being regalarly increased. It would be said that the M etes.. had been caused by a redaction of the fall pay ; but he eosteadod that !hit reductios was net proportionate to this increase. The fault lay la the practice of sot illiag up vacancies from Me half-pry. It would be said some presto lions were isecessary ; be would admit Ma, and would therwfwe be mama that that regulation which the Adnieralty had adopted with regard to the sterines should be acted worm in the. wan, of allowing one vacancy in three for pro motion, and filling op the oaten; from Me half pay. They should nut Own bear say complaint or this subject formats. The Chancellor of the Exchequer was eagaged in the opera tion of reducing the interest on a patios of the debt from 6 to 4 per cent. He wuuld suggest to him a more ad 0...- regrows °pant 04 'everting ibis half pay list. . There wen ma. y officers now marring from the service, who would be glad intake the purebageou. bey for their commissions. He would recommend that Goveismarni should pay the 41110110 t. to such as were willing to take Is, whereby they would re deem annuities of 13 or 14 per tent.; sad if swan. were burtowed for the purpose at 3 re cent. Me operaiom would be attended with a goat saving. Some .egslatisa aught to be adopted (be preventing officers foie go ing on baltpay for life until they had served a eve. tarn number of years, ninny persons having purchased thoa missions fur Hasa, of the annuity, never intending taiiefTe. He should not move any reduction in the grant, because that would be an set of iujustice to the individuals, whom he did rot brume, but the Government he thought highly assurable; and unless tome regulation were adopted 00 the subject, he shotild Wore the Session chwed feel it his duty to bring the matter substantively before the House. . Sir H.HARDI NOE rose to puled out as error is thesollrs- Intimo of the Hun. Member (Mr. Haar) of the animmt that 'nicht have bees saved to the mustry by the adorns of kis plan of tilling up the vocaories Gem the half psi. lie hod stated it at an amount of 213,C001- annually. That as* 'Dent he had made nut wily that evening, hut in she !sot Session, and at public meetings throughout the cointry i pin' Sicilian at Het...ford. It had appeared to him H•FIJ so maestros. a statement that he could nut help inqurigt taco it, and the resale aim colon twos gas quite at issue with that el the Honourable Member. The Hmovrable Member was correct in his statement of Me amber of promotion.; but the Inference he always deduced from them you, that by filling them up loom the half pay there would be as moutal liming of 213,000 L; or, at 11 years purchase, of 2,600,08 01 • This issfereace of the Hon. Member was the result of a Serif • of locuticeivable enrols, which resulted in an ortr-ataieme*t us his part of 1,600,0901. at twelve yeses wirehair& Of 1,653 promotions, which had taken plate is lee years, there mere ..oily 883 actual vacauciea. If a Lieutenant-Celoorlcy in • regiment became vacant by death or removal, it was filled by promoting • Major to the vacancy, a Captain to the Maj.oity, a Licata's't to the Captaiery, sad an fair to the Imitiesianicy ; en that there were lee peorastions, andiron one vacancy, and if bin plea were adopted, only use permit in mead of five could be removed from the kattpay; but the Hon. Member had takes all the promotions, and argued span them as alba were all vseaseleo.—(Loud cheers and nea ter from the Ministerial besiches.)—That be had dose, not is the beat of debate, but oat cool gad deliberate caleolstiso , and it stood on the Jorraals. It war a very Scrims coot, fur it went to bring into disrepute the mode in which the army was admielstereJ.—(Hear, hear, bear.)—This Ho aourahle Gellllllooo Ikea proceeded to remark upon the plat of 6 Mug up from the half-pay, aiming, by calculation( I