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posed mode of procre,Frg ; hut net"iing hat in snide owner could result from it. 110 couldl mit prete-r1 to say how rove. Member , might art itpan had lie been Om rut no it. he 1 1 1n/: I II II (11• r en read a .truitle wrt.lere .1 keel. I e. knees not . lay -telaat isestbstait . v.: l ,4lmlorsl Ile f r o m what collie? : lie Arndd require to see this witness, that be might examine atubsift the molter to the bottom. But should the Commuter form their extrajudicial opinion. and g ive r to the world. and should it even in the se. vieres• miviner hear a g ainst her Majesty's reputation, the irrd still cold(' not proceed; they should still ih•lat stir public examination notll the act:rived had rtilimrr owe) , of defence. The Noble P.ar! then r1•1111ne , ,,,e,1 upon the compiwition of the Com mittee, no which were four Cabinet and with two or three exceptions. such Lords as, seitiiaut imputing any thing improper to them, nerr yet remarkahle for agreeing upon every poli'iral subject with his Majesty's Mi. timers. Under such circumstances, must not the lights. and Parliament itself, !et! that tin Itenort of inch a Committee was the Re p...; ”I . lli,ii.ters themselves I—(l.lear,hear.)—Why I shmild they have recourse at till to the mot kery of .1 Secret Committee, when every thing r. irht Ise manainnl as etreetually without its mown ?—(!fear, bear.)—Wis there any peculiar any holy idopiration in their Lordships o arlit in ee . t ionin, which would inspire a Weirton( of , .ber it had fled from the Cabinet? The of the Cron n had, however, by their L T."- I,li-conduct. placed the case in such a state. , that it was impossible to proceed in it with safety, , or nlidndon it with honour; and he sincerely be t:raed that nothing now could satisfy the public ', r id a foil, hones!, open, sad public adjudication of the case. There were manly means of insti lls' ing ms inquiry which were free from the objec tiddis felt in the mode now proposed ; and in sub. mi.tini„; the present propositimi to the Ildmse. lie vele desired that .time one might be selected snore •• iisdta tit with the principles of law and justice.— foi lfiai-ters of the Crown were in many instances I. lih• to censure, but in twilling more than for sir, .1 vat dieing idol uneeciiiit conduct. They .Yd >Orr mely culpable for 114ving brought the lioW,Ur of the Crown into ()rid by their indeci it c !wide of acting. It was how at least twelve iiindiths since the commission of inquiry was is silt ri —twelve mouths even stave the Alinisters re. rivrti the Report. Ode receiviiig the lteport, it tlioir duty to determine immediately upon t;c:i pinceeihtegs as they might have deemed t beidnally expedient. It tin examining th- evi ilr 11,1 , cr,ll• ettil for their intormAion, they room! , cause for accusation, they should leave like oleo •• iti!orritril their Sorereign;, but if there were a I: Ilse fir charge, they should with as little delay as i->jile base submitted it to Parliament upon ti,; :1 van responsibility. The Noble Earl cedi se•td s , r.ingly the line of conduct now adopted by id-!irs, for having thrown the case to Podia that they might be relit veil themselves from ::•t performance of their duty. But so they uni iitited iti every case of great public interest, -y 'hewed o n all emergencies the same destitution, 4rlll' to repose on Parliament for • e , ;(- , • nod ..ripport, and in a time of peculiar and si t.•*l of difficulty, when wisdom and energy were ticedeil. the Nliiiisters of the Crown looked t all stupid astonishment at the evi:S which they ► .• es created,—( Loud cheers.)—The waives eT• the winds increaiwil, the caeca Income mu- • 1.: • :1., the vy....1 of the Stmt. Laboured under every d!•iliciitiy and dagger, but the pilot looked on in ~,, and astonis h ment. ignorant of the extent of al and of the means to avoid them :- A,t.rra erescit hyrax umnique parte reruees guilt)! venti; freiaqur inell,iinno.tin nascent. Iys. pavig; tire sc .it -laths ipae fatetur Wig reeler; ore fluid jubeat ye vetel re Taut* stall moles, torture putetllittr Orte val. Nolde Elil then remarked. that there was one irrii.lier of the Administration (Mr. Canniag), and t coerce one of those who recommended tilt urti rurnnl of ihis proceeding, who declared, " so help !" that lie would never appear us the Queen's aticiwer. This same Minister had repre st 1 It (1 the Queen as " the grace, and life, sod ~ascot of society," Bed why cot thertrire l• ti - e grace, land life, acid ornament" of the l'ahtvili throne ? Ile further declared •!iit r, alio must have knovin the whole con . ti .s of the green bag, declared—that fur the Q .n he OM felt the warmest esteem and affec t.cu.. %Vliy then did not this Minister so represent I.in•sc! f to Ill! Sovereign, or why did he vomite r. •c , i and advise a public prosecution against I Miijisty ? was it surprising that such sr ti.tcusation, so blasted in its commencement, have excited %nu warm And indignant fe e l. id 0 ;c throughout the country ? The Noble Earl U•• ‘. alluded to the recent resolution of the House t i Commons voting an Address to the Queen, mid artnented upon those Mittistery, who, having dr ' oi.i:cet! the Queen, and field out threats of the rust utirtlentnig prosecutions against her in the eser:t of her setting her foot upeu tlritish ground, run a ( I .d efoed themselves to lit r in a bondsman'. Ite!," and Minion-el her Majesty to consent to stit•ll I &Aka' concessions as vomid relieve them frOni pc •otticig an inquiry, the necessary result of nide') must be " IlitypCinting to the hopes r. Pathainent, derogatoly from the dignity of the Crown, and injurious to the best interests el die empire." t7poti tli:s he should stand as c.r a rock, to slim how the circuinstaiiees of this rase were altered; and vii:ll respect to the condi ton. of the Ministers, they were . placed by it, ac coding to an etpression, somewhat fanciful in deed, of one of their body, " in a state of con trast with tiwniselves."—(Hap, hear, hear, mid a • t a y ; h,)--filaving concurred in this Address, he did not perceive how it was possible fur the Alia to.ters, of the Crown to proceed ally further i n Vie business. It might indeed be said, that the exposition of the Qoteeu's conduct would prove de. • rae'atory from the dignity of the Crown, but if the • queen had pooled the licentious life iMputeil to • ter. thiie trim sloe tirade of saving the dignity of the Crowe by irepanting bee from' it; awl another Mude by proving her lenbeent. But.oloru they • *rev tied diet it tYart • InkVidery conagierice of the kneading thee jt I)o4kt/sided with the worst r eirlialtrinids the Isitsiiir of tie Crinwii l iid to imileVt" .4 JO . ti;Atilathfir Lintel s. Tiro. • Altbt 4itilbirk. tittles sant rir. el,ffillieNialliterolleneleeled prof% that ti' tr2l;; 1 - klitti of die Steve! Cidelan n. I i . " • ..swi• ti 1 a - Llienlgnor. Wei reenbieent that their Loriletops muivhave heard the Noreen of the . Nolabs.Eisal crotairiesistale atisritie. r .. The toe. g ip 1 1l ;; g ~t that speech rinosiifeil of a keel or cosisti weevil argument against the mod- of marvelling adopted by the House.. said the Nettle Lord limber stated. that it wee no party emotion. but Lo r ddiipa should regard c4se in which their solely to the principles of justice. lime much then must they have been surprised, to hear the &mein lien of the Noble Lora's speech, come* g true of the most violent and lull &minatory tark* oleo?' the Ali ii i.iers of the Crown which be had ever heard. Ile had accused the Ministers of vacillating and is certain conduct, 110 t in the present case alone, but during the whole course of their political measures. This was not the proper time for entering into a dee fence of his Majesty's present Ministers. hut should a tit time arrive he should not shrink from it, and he should be contented to rest the character of himself and his colleagues. and depend their claims to the good opinion of present times, and to the gratitude of posterity, upon their conduct during the last eight years.—(l-nod cheers from the Ministerial side of the llouse.)—! le Mendel gladly oppose the conduct of the present Ministry to that of Om Ministry of which the. Noble Lord constituted a part—( Loyd tries of Near) --whose counsels would have united the country, and reduced it to the lowest point of infinity and degradation. IVids respect to the proceethug now before the Howie. lie no difficul , y in explaining the whole conduct of liiinstlf and his coilleagues. but he would not rest it upon a quibble on a word. The kliiiisters of the Crown felt that the institu tion of any proceedings agatus t the Queen must be attended with rent inconvenience, and if there were any means for avoiding it, it was felt to be their duty to take advantage of them. The nritives they adopted to prevent the Queen front landing its England were just. expedient, and ap proved, he doubted out, by nine-tenths of the public of this cuuntry.-4 Hear, hear, hear.)— Nlinist.rs having laid the accusation against the Queen before Parliament, would be well pleased if. by any moons short or retracting it. they could relieve themselves and Parliament .fropn•so pateihil a duty. Nothing could more strongly express the inconvenience arising from the irregularity COITI milted by the Noble Earl. iii reporting the words sunken elsewhere, than the circumstance that the exorestions attributed in the public itewsimpers to a Noble Lord in the Wore of Commons, were very incorrectly stated, mid that the Noble Lord was tint now present to correct the misre ; irrsentattosi.— The Address to which the Noble F.irl had al luded, wee not ;proposed in the House of Com mons by the Ministers of the Crown, although they had supported it, and if it were supposed dist they had framed it, or had even any time. prev;ros to the moment of its toeing proposed, to examine o r eon side, it, the supposition was untrue. 11 the Quern were placed at the bar of the Hotter, the ciicum stance of eliminating her in the eyes of the notion must in some degree be. 0 , derogatory from the dignity of the Crown, and injurious to the public interests:' but still there was a great evil to be avoided, and he should not shrink from his duty. He hoped with the Noble Lord that the House would indeed be cautious in the conduct it would adopt. for if ever there existed a tribunal choir'. 'zonated shove all others for its integrity, it was the House of Lords of Great Britain. The enigma! proceeding must. if wrong. be too, tat, with to. Terence its die proceedings that might be instituted in the Mouse of Commons; or 2d. wills ie ference to the mole of proceeding by Secret Committee. But if the original proceeiting were tight, no subsequent events could alter its character of rectitude and propriety. It had been said that their Lordships should pause berme they originated soy measure upon this subject, lest they should encounter the difficulty here after of having to discuss a question which might come before them in the shape of an impeachment. Ile was not prepared to ray that iii this case there was walling likely to fall under the consideration of the Committee which might not furnish 'stayer groomd for impeachment. but what lie did merit to ray was, that if the main charge were fur an teruus intercourse, it wits a charge which could not, according to the °minim of the first legal authori ties of the country (seal many of them had been courtilted), be mode the subject here. under the en commences of taw cuee, of a criminal proceeding. lip the Aet of &koll 111. to commit adultery I f nab the King's wile, or his eldest son's wife. or the Leiress to the throne, was high treasons and the par ties consenting were alike guilty. But the duffi culty here was, that if the adviterer should provi to be a futeiguer, who was neither permanently nor temporarily matchable to Brio h law, theft was no possibility of reaching him by the Statute of Ed raid nu a charge of high treason, and es in this case sill accessories were principals, it followed of course, that as you could not touch the adulterer, neither could you the adulteress. This was the de liberate interpretation of the Statute. as it was de clared with relation to emit a case as he had sup posed. But the Noble Earl says. that thought the crime may out be high treason, it may yet be a high misdemeanor, a great State offence. subject. Mg the party to pains and penalties'. So it may, but yet it obviously must be a crime known to the common law of the land, and that common law did not recognise the crime of adultery. It was mere ly a civil injury. The House of Commons had re• suited the attempts of the Noble and Learned Lord opposite (Lord Erskine) to make that (Thor amen able in common law. Such was the stele of the law. and he was persuaded that if the law did tint meet the case. they would not create a crime for the occasion, and with it view to the puoishment of en individual. From the fullest vita which he war a vatar of taktiag of the present most painful Mes he was firmly convinced that a legislative procesling was the ouly one open to them. It may be by Bill of Divorce—it may be by Bill of Paine asid.Peurities; nab respect. to the branch of the Legiodature giudliug it. their Journals *beeped thus it was eons • pcleut to either to originate it ; but mujt )rernmily he theught it could be better conducted before their Lordship. from Weir more capstans jealici.l habits, ased went particsilmly frees their power of (searing evidence *pow oitth. tie would s o w ewes (is Ihs mitre immediate coasideratton, siliether, bay. ing tleeimeg Ilhori 6 leil l etii4o tweeivedleg, 4 . 1 was nol7 Iktitife net it about' be pro) Ceded ht ad s peirsiolt ioloiry or itootiftl i kind had keen the 111111r0IT case sipon pendinK tele' later itroceedings.soil the only petition bethought was ass the sort o t inquiry which they Jowls/ peeve.- nusly reqnire. The usual course bad been.vrevioes to Bills of Paige mod PenalsieS. tb Fifer the metier either to a Committer of the whole Horse. or to a Secret Committee. New with reference to the in. wresti of the itecasedt he thought the latter the make moiler course to take on the ;wield occasirm. From its secrecy it would he less itrejudicird to the similar-11. tie had no difficulty in saying, that if the issiiform racier of Pertimetut did not beer oat theoremic of proceeding, the particular me impera tively called for at.—(lleor.j—This was an smote lion against the first subject of the realm, one wiorlo ought tint to be commenced m the ipse disie of Nlitsisters, hot which ought before it was seitetioned receive the consideraf a Parliarnee. tory Committee. Tibet Committee may decide there wait tin ground for further proceeding, or it may decide that there was. It was no bar to their Lordships' procredis i in the first Pewee to say, that possibly some of 'lie accmatious in the bag might furnish master of future inspeachnietat. If that objeetiois were admitted, there was au roil to the originating of any Bills of Pains and Pe nalties, fur alinnit in them all, an far as lii. retro spective •iiirpiiry had gone, there were charges which might have furnished grounds u. impeach. urent. Ile had, however, stated reasons why peachment upon one, the main charge. (vol.! slot fellow in the case he had supposed. Allusion had been made to the speech of a Learned Comet! (Mr. Brougham) last night. Ably as he hail argued upon some points, he (the Eel of L.) did not hear from him one word which bore directly m the present question. The Usenet! Geode man bad indeed forcibly urged that it would he unfair to proceed wish the ease for the prosecution until that for the defence was prepairti to rebut the charge. Now on that point he fully agreed with the Learned Counsel, and thought that in this case her Majesty's Counsel ought oilier the choice of the time of delay, and he would be disposed to acquiesce in the time they should think con venieist for entering directly into the merits of the case. There were no charges yet made iii a Parliamentary form ; they had as yet no authority assuiniog that charges would be made by the previous C mince. When they were once made in the shape of a charge or a Bill, then, and not till then, the proper time would arrive to make the arrangement for suitable delay.—(Hear, hear.) — The real question was now, ought this inquiry to be ',locoed ; and whether that should not, us in all previous cases. be submitted to the intervening jodgioseist of a Committee ?—(lftew.) —The Noble Earl shushed to the necessity of their weighing well the effect their course of proceeding would have upon the minds of the people 1041 tof doors; now, though he would be always most anxious to con cult the feelings of the respectable both of the community, still he wuuld never be deterred from pursuing is measure which, in his conscience, he deemed necessary, by any factions discontent which may tie sounded within or without the walls°, Par liament, against the particular measure in agitation. Vt'ult respect to the imputation endeavoured to be cast on the Committee, lie must say it less entirely groundless. Could guy insinuation be with propri ety levelled at the honest consciousness of justice, which would influence the deliberations of such per sonages as the first Eccleainetical Peer of the realm, as the Duke of Northumberland. the Marquis of Buckingham. and Noblemen of their intik in the State I—(Hear, hear.)—There could be no shadow of doubt that such characters would scent in their inquiry any influence, save that which was die. tided by their own isopariel judgment. A Noh!e Berms opposite had insinuated that a Right Rev. Prelate was the adviser of the omission of her Mujes'y's name in the Liturgy, and that he must he privy to some of the charges in the green bag.— Now, lie would assure the Noble Baron, dent he himself knew just as much of the contents of that bag as the Rev. Prelate, and that so far from that personage being the adviser of the omission of the Queen's name in the Liturgy, he (the Earl of Li verpool) could on the contrary tell him, that the *Advice in question came directly from his Majesty's Executive Servants. The Noble Earl then repented some of his former arguments, and concluded by statiug, that, upon the most mature consideration, lie saw 110 other course open for their Lordships than that which lie had already proposed, namely. re refer those papers to a Secret Committee--uot as had beets mistated, for the purpose of trying the case. but of deciding whether, and in what manner, it should be tried at all, moil then giving the party accused every fair and legal advantage of defence, and acting in the strictest coufortuity to the estaltlished rules of justice.—(Hear.) Lord Easitixs said, that the question was not now. whether they should proceed in this inquiry, but whether they should proceed in it by a Secret Committee ? He thought it right. however. to state, that in his opinion the question had uuder anise some alteration since it was first brought be fore their Lordships. He concurred in the inter. pretatiou of the law. as laid down its its oppltei. bility to a charge of high treason, in such a case as was supposed, where a foreigner out of the jurisdiction of British law wes a party. But the difficulty he felt in the mode of ptocreding stow suggested was, their liability to come to a deci. siou its one way upon this question in their own discussions, when theusight hereafter be judi cially called upon to decide it in iitiother form. upon it requisition from the Howse of Commons. Little did he expect when this subject came first before thrill, that it would have taken the turn which had since marked its progress. It was im possible to have foreseen the steps lately taken by the House of Commons; tad it was now clear that that Flavor held itself resetve to iiistitute such a proceeding as it should deem advisable on a future occasion. Them was. therefore. every chance of the cue tombsg ulti. snuffy before their Lordship* in a joaciil tom; . and surely. so situ•tivl 4 .they were culled upon is paha and refrain from passoustriog soy promo . lurk visions. With respect tritthe conduct., Mi. , he terkainly i llsesights *hat Wore Ow .drstik the Causeeser seamy sot o( ilea Lilo'''. shay .olsoold have jugs prepasprikum ihiltill toooswltt. lity, to Iwo Woo& &go to Wilt Hoene of Per. r I. r_ ••‘ ~ . . . , , • • . • . ilt !specials clatigtos MOW* Iler, Melt '" es Ws Their j spa i tieollion. Vim* look 'MC , A Ct illr- . °entity. he esofeitteel he "Intl 'leassf *silos [ iiliether•Alintster• hatt legally the power et recorn• mending the omissions of tier Xiajssity's name 151 • the matinee they - howl clone. -mid. -ire gout' ri the words of the Act in support of his N o. atom. The Noble Lord then took a review of the course taken be the Hostife 'of Carninints, It course whirls he tloolailit material for their I..4ll.ltips' con sideratiost, as it load the Willson of the King's Mi. ItiVer.s. 'ri b . 'loose itf enminotts had addressed the (4 wet, to lerftts which threw eitttrefy a slew liv . lti otos,' the ra.e. here the N.ilile Lotd rein! the It.: 7 ohortoo * towed by the Howie of Cora. iiiii IS (fior soltich see this Paper i f f Friday last)—oipi re armed to her Majesty toy a deputation from that house. How was it I,o.silile, lie womb! ask, for her Majesty to later vieliled to the solicitation of the other 11,,,,e, is the Itialowr fn w , ,1 , •/1 It !tad been urged . up o n :or ? It was Illillos•ible she could adroitly overlook the oontstooto of her flame in the I.lllltgy. without toltratittg in ins. peachment of her own character. ilow could the !louse of Cuomo'', tolerate the iiistitntitto of all inquiry, which, accotolitig to its owls re corded tote, would materially affect the ologoity of the Crown, and th e hest interests of tlot empire ? The Noble Lord 'lieu condemned the prepa ratory proceeding about to be instituted iii the present situation 11l Willrh the case stonil. Suppose the Committee decided that the eliarge ought oat be topseritteil, and that the Queen said it issust—it ha I been made itgailist her—it had been proissulgand —her character salt effected by it, and she felt herself entitled to demand a full and complete impttry; see the situ ,tion iii which their Lordships would be placed betwe , -ii the decision of their own Cornmittee and the so lemn requisition of the Oneett.. Under ail the cir cumstances of the case, the more proper course would be for :Ministers themselves to originate the inquiry, or to wait nonl they saw the course whirl' th e o il ier (louse might think it fit to adopt. Ile certainly sl hi not concur iii the proceeding by a Secret Committee. Ile could not think of placing himself as one of the Committee, in the invidious situation of acting as a pioneer to Ministers, who choose to !mug bark ia the fanks.—(//eur.)— He repeated, that lie was most ready to ciinctir in the demand of the Queen for a full and open in quiry, and to afford that fair intervention of time at the outset which the nature of the case might re quire for the production of witnesses. It was now too late to enter into the appointment of a Secret Committee, after the appeal made by the Qtortin and die protest of her Counsel against such a orp.— (Uear, lieur.) The Loau CHANcEI.I.OII denied that the ques tion since its first introduction to their Lordships had Mourned any new shah'. Ills Noble and Learned Friend was misinformed when lie imagiu. ed that the pitint of law upon the statute of Ed ward 111. was a long-discovered bar to the prosecu tion in this case upon a charge of high treason. lie (the Lord Chancellor), though lot% accustomed to legal disquisitions. was taken quite by surprise whesi the legal ohjectiou was first started; but he became en immediate convert to its force the moment his attention was fully drawn to the subject. Were lie counsel for the Noble Elul (Grey), or was the Noble ENO counsel for him on a trial for high treason, lie was convinced that either of them would feel it to be Isis imperative duty towards the other, to hold fast to the firm construe. tine of the law, as it was exPosinded by the beet aistitoritirs on the subject. Ile was clearly of opinion that no proceeding founded upon the sta. totes I'M high treason could he raised upon this case. As to the appointment of a Secret Cogiatit tee, he won'd oily, with it votive which he wish e d coubl he beard from one end of the King's do. Milton% to the other, that it was a most abosni. treble reproach. road a most ',quit one, to suits pose that the Kine'e Ministers in preferring the course of a Secret ('ommittee, wished it its the ofTensive sense attached to those words. Ile Stood there as independent as any Noble Lord around hint, though he confessed he owed it iiiii mere hie thanks to the Crown, and as ready to see that no step was taken beyond what was re• rinireol by the justice nod necessity of the case. He was ready to avow, that if its the progress of this painful infinity the King's Ministers In 4 right for a inoisoesit of these great principles, there was no puotishfurnt which such conduct would not deserve. fie was also ready to my for himself, that so important did he consider the previous in quiry by tlti. Committee, that even were it not the usual course, reins were it not the es:notion of his colleagues that it ought to be adopted, so import. ant, lie repeated, Mid so necessary did he comider it, that without it be should not agree Si' the tc. troduction of any Ilill. The principle which governed that ovinims had reference to the illus. trions rink of the party, and was dictated by the necessity of upholding the chancier of a Queen from any ipse digit of a Munster, and shielding it by the protection of a Committee to he appointed by Pat. !lament, before any cha'rge of criminality could attach in a formal shape. Ministers did not shrink from their coonotitutiotial responsibility on the pee 'rot occasion; for he felt that its tOttilllttling the lonisers in that bag (" big which was out always ',token of with proper gravity) to a Committee, Ilse King's Nilinisters wire incurring the same responsi tidily as if they Mol actually brought in a MIL— /Wear, hear.)--fie their contended, .that accord. ing to the precedent of Parliamentary his. tory, the previous inquiry was indispensable in contemplation of a legislative trroceedusg. It was futile to tell their Lordships that they could do nothing now, because they might hereafter be met by a proraeding coining front elsewhere, which blight bring the subject . jegliesially before them. This argument would apply to all oases of Bills of Pains rod Penalties. It was/pity pm niatuse to point out to their Lordships the obstacles which may be cast in their wily in the praigrai of this business. They could not let say what course the Secret e.oususittee would suggest; they might possibly say there wad we ground ' for any proceeding ; they might ilab t sla floecoatnxy, ctintrary. that there wife, and reciadiitiodid .ll' 1 11 41 0" I"eceiliWiro He knew, indeed. that taw iipai &ibis prevailed rem . meting ills Of their jurisdiction to 'reglad* partittsl== imp. Those daily espoundirm of she lore "We seutisants were each morning laid its doe form noon their breakfast tables, had toll them .1, • their Lord-hops had no power to origiii.!". t I;• I of Pains awl Penalties. lout he re red th• se • r.. der were never SO much mistaken as thcy on the present occasion in their sot I.f To ? I iw of the • mese He condemned it* izenfor,l ii.pertiotiii which were Illgt normSeCTSICI , II‘!“I , ,, mid lie could assure the 701,1 e• slot w.. •, livfsh I , l 'c - rating ospersion- opori theft; Iltit W•ee not for the acts of some Of these Comm u ne., •,„ mer rice:Mom; he would not he now in ors id es. •., !mire iiroftiifinced molt !Testy objellintri a•.: .1. • them.—(4 fitagli.)—The t•rnimed S. • rot (~ mince, so far from bring otrj ll l l 'el.. l .. 'r A! jelly, would be her shield Tool protect tot.— /wise, hear.)—lt was toot she tli.l this mode of previous itoporiy, but he IT,' the nowt relipertful 011111 tier reprefec/I roe the or• that his duty to the public rendered •• that he should colocur in re commetnl.•, : cosine, not only as nowt becontivo To. ~,!. Alajetty, hot fis most Ilk ely to promote t. e ,T.,•,.. ineht of the euds of justice. As to t'T • a r/. •• that the Members of the Secret (7n - :• , 11,1 • r ", he pronouncing an opiiiion in ti-e '1 •T 0,.•, which thty nu ht afterwards he called Toro, •TT •• rider in a judo-lel form, be should u,.!% . this wt. a Iraht: , ty which attache!! in ~t 1 We Mary Coosruittees, whether see ; ,- 1 cool which was unavoidable, from Ih r . of the const•tution of Pith anie• *. !I- e 4 ready Ile this instance to concede: Si ': I, .• the arrangement of the inquiry. sIiT,T;I.I ;: 1 ,- it' , . mately determined on by the Conionni•e, necessary for the justice of the case. /le . 1, i • ,:• mind the rersetition of the old charity r, u; , • acknowledgment would expese hint , hpr i:r not a Veherirtl e .11111ge.—(1 - /ett•, hear, (4P'i thigh.)....Hult at thetellt the :irgltnielit for In on instiller al:plied, whets the cheiroe w-. w.•l - g.e.st••Tl a •I the wittiesses not 113111.!11. Ile 41.1 I that It, hi* cor)%itivatioti of 01. yurrtioor, lie • ascent. tote yigh t. nor did lie believe t. for • s would, of th'e Wise and soletna reortooneni!ir nn ••! for Mer great Chantlyer lain of Kigl 'hit should ire!' ke'ep God and lie color:cm e ni nor suffer partiality or affectinti tr-, o;••:•:.• matures upon his jodgmem, where • ~.ciehee duty ought :drum to hate : r, /1/•- c e.)— In the dischirge of his doty lie titled .14:1741'4111.: to the pure dett.ttes of his cot..eieur, —lllle error, lie hoped God would pity ha tie tiotess and lie !utied his (*wintry would v er Lau /fed.: fur the sincerity orbit motives.— (!fear, hear.) The llarrits of LANSDOITS took all of the nosither in which this wools aort totiofi.! question had been introduced Rod u;.o:,eti ui Ph ilomela by hit Allajestv's Minster., Tool alluded to the olnervattois made by the Noble Eat!, that th-,T• were other matters be ) al:(1 our thi• !;:i; Wine& It.. (the Moguls) would refrain from nam ing. which might be the subject of an Trooracl - ineift. hailer such circumstances he thong:ft the sitting of the Secret Committee would be preiwiltne. At it appeared to IMO, there was no Port of resem. blither Of analogy -beta . erit the t no cacti. A Coin. motes of Inquiry in the House of Comfitotis was the tootle by which *bat !louse iiifunueslilarlf wh, ther, upon certain information or offal gee sulsn•itted to it, it would proceed to impeactimerit or 11 , 0, iirni in which that ['more was determined. alter due e). amination, if their inquiry were proper, to prosecute further before their ,longs; lost that their Lorchhips should so far disqualify themseivis from being strict and correct judges wools th.,t which would afterwards lie submitted to them, woe not only tuconsivent with pi udence sod jostler. but was not at all conformable with the better practices of Parlatipent. But then he felt it to be hie di to to object to the course proposed cm that freiy ac count. If it were desirable to avert the evils •thric,t' were threateueil from the direct and fiecesiarr cow., of such an inquiry. thee it most he so much no•re desirable to avoid any step hie the oppoortment a Secret Committee, which was *tinily uttore.--,:trl. sod the labours of which would not lead th. to shin, by 3'4' means to a safer or a crater et. Ho sign. With respect to the argument of the NT h!.• Earl opposite, regarding a BM of Pans awl Penalties, the Noble Earl hail defie,l Noire Lords tin his (Marquis of leansdown . •) t•'• tile House to COW lacy rale its iliti:Cl3 ntu hail not been wee-dell by a Cmittnitte.: ft' loquiry. His reply was, that it hail slut bre 3 the custom of Parliament to proceed by that I:orte since the Revolution ; owl it 50, it %out., he cult indeed to prove. even train prcerden't , the Secret Committee was necresary in the: ulti mate decision of the este. In the cone el Leo' Clarendon the House had proceeded by a I! IT a Pains and Penalties. originattno in then Lord-hi ps* Home, which Hill was certainly ((((( poet-card by inquiry. True it was that so inquiry was instittitrd its the House of Commons. but before am tit;, - mination could be agreed upon. 1,0,41 Ciatei left the comitry. Ile could st e on !CUSC/ 1.,/ re sorting to the services of a Secret Contemner ; vides. was it not to be recollected. ?lift I.lle it inquiry bad afirody taken place ? l)ol the Noi/.e Earl opposite attempt to deify, nil beltrit and Alifesters, that tf they did toot actually logo r Commission which had beets engaged to seciet against the Queen, they had advio..l an I 4 . 011 t . with the parties employed ? Hr %sm., vet there to contend about the propriety or a-ipiT. pricty of employing that Commission. The no, • tom which he had made of if, the rift rioter o be had made to its proceeshoge, were only le' , " to chew that the proposed it qeity was riot 1, 0 Ceiiity. The Coiniiti,..ion might hart bee o t:t sary or not; the euudort it at Might has: properly cootieed to the limos of fits , ra,r , •ii, e• improperly ektrocird to of jeers %lot+ It v is only toeless but ninichierroos 10 ioquiie foilti; Inc certain he we.. shut if a Sprcisi been found atecescary to establish accusat 'to an illustrious issdivideat, it would lip 'wither for •:t• rude of josisce, bur for say of the /It et s• ties of the case. that the Mare parltil mut* 11 , (1" , ' should be creamier' ander any other title or Fitt too stances: lie would .ask if it were not a swat improbable ractimisiewey. to expect that she put vr • to such as horrify woold riteireids too 'able le molts to tIW timoltdetlitibut id a Bin Pain. Naiades . Opir!llire'oisseo lif the edicts of rimst w, rilichicheri *ad 61 """ retied me mei ellsolisilliass mad -be , lip eigrauri rolling evidence I Pio as So the 'opener! of the Committee in other respects *brit Lordships mini MMI