The Sun. — London, England, 1807-07-28 00:00:00

W nat proof Fact ,ttioy that the iNiattia would volunteer into the .Litte to dab i;:itellt of their eX pe&ations ? Had experience countenanced and en couraged such a !wipe ? and should they be diiap. pointed (and nothing promised that they might not) . whet could redeem - the mischief 'hey might do to the Militia ? Why, then, place confidence in what had already failed, snd trust to formeij miscarriage for• present success ? But they will say, they are taken by A urpriie : the danger is imminent; and . every thing mug be done to avert it. Let theinsooner then res Art. to theiri'raining Ad-f"or from that Bill tioniet !ling substantial might be deriyetior willthey re-establish the Volunteers ? Will they incur the ex pence forrnprly attending that establishment ? Are the Volume:go to serve in Corps, and tinder Officers of . their . owb choosing ? Surely, this wonld not be the way to avtil , oarselves of the spirit and, the popu. , lation -of the Country. It would be defeating at once, tbie t &A of cur physical and-our moral coo. rritt.i. The tliAht Hon. Gentleman then went into a deit-nce ot••the late Adminiitration; and contended, that they bad naed with respe& to such mea. • suies, not from love of popularity, but from ,a seri ous sense of duty. He hoped . t he HouievoUld pause bt'fbre they radopttd a measure Ilk° the present. 'lt would • only increase the : difficulties of ballot and bounty, of 'bounty and' ballbt, without increasing the ' means of defence which the 'perils of the moment • were acknowledged so imperiously to call for. . , • Mr. 8.-IT HUR ST purl ued nearly the same line of areiunent as Mr. H. Addiugtoti r The.present mo tuent' called for an immediate aceession..to our Na ticital Force ; but hoW tl.at call could etfeaually be answered by the pre , ient plan he was at a loss to con-, cc4i., AN to ballots, it was not to the number of bah= lotS we were to attend, but to the number-of men, that could be raised by then). The present measure evi dt:iitly tended to destroy the Militia, the Militia which formed at present nearly one halfof our naii oeal strength; and if the Regiments of the Line were at' present so locomplete, riow much 'more so must be left . those 'of the : Militia, by the present Bill Itteas trot for this or that 'part of the hland that we , partienlarly wanted an energy, of military force, it ,was for the whole of the Empire. This could nut be elfeaed by the plan now under eonsi rAi,in. Semler and with more effea should we revere to the measure of the Army of Reserve, the heneticial results of which we had already'experi eneed. To this measure he inclined not from patti al;ty I but froM a convi6tion of Its mcire.prompt and Ocisive efficacy. Lard ,C".44.57'1. - FRE A GM'auld not forbear making a few obserivations even at this' late hour of the night. • ki,,,,lamented to meet with such cippositiun f;om di ife ! raftit quarterS, and on such diffetentgrOunds, Some did not think the t ernefgency so urget as others, and th ! .. i refore were for adopting no mcaSure at all. Some ‘Aiere for making'greater, others less. draftsfrom the : 'while others again deprecated the touchin g it 41100ilter. The Militia was allowed to - be jiyber state of perfeion and to be - more complete '. Orliberi than at Any cornier period for these 14 :‘:e4trs• Why then did it furnish more facilitlys than at ituy form-r rm)ment'mwards• the objea which it was now so necessary rti attend" o and to acCom= Our military torte was now more scattered abroAd than at any 'former period : it was therefore more necessary to feed and corripa6l that force than before. Re did net flatter himself with a nearer prospeil of peace than the Gentlemen on the other side, but thilt fhe felt, that our' military system should be adapted to. both Situations, and partake of either prospect., When so calculated, it might be; thole:V:lnd kept up at a smaller expence. As to the tight lion. Gentleman who spoke last (Mr. Wind -I.tani), he' seemed to irtie sight ;altogether of the dangers which ha fotmerly dreaded' from France. apprehensions on that score seemed Wholly to have vanished, and all his filcultiesseetried now to be absorbed in the adm:rntien of his own Military Plan, which he seemed to think had succeeded H.on . d his thost tiatig ;im uine dres. Still, however, atl il*;.it l'eB l ,lll. waF4 yet to come.. We, were le r it at the . distance of t‘re years; and in, the'" iteerivo it writs were' to e4ea .that MltaParte would beei)me 'grey, and 'no longer ajty hing , ;. hilt Peace • and then we should 1,6 ti) . 4feralthe'Cooritry without 'any measure . in it lie b.:(1 'the honova to propose.. Such, aas n(,t o`pinion of that great man (Mr, Fokl win., Wai . 06w no morn, and whose It t.tlents . added such . autp p rity to any o piniee" he, e\pre'Ssed. TIC thonght. IleCeSSary t.yir 'Military should be raised to the Utmost. ynt. h. 'al striti:tss the • 'ptondeitt (1)1' r*.‘lo,' , ,vii. Compare, however,: ots I he eeo!I try eVen at that day with what ttey,nnw 111,1 how' will they 'appear increased— the l'o;.va , i of the' Continent are so mach less hit 'tb" i(t its, and when we 'have an enemy to ,ti i Vault, So t:offii molt confider Of viOory; and W 1 ,1; tcheophs. llesides'our disposable a,v,,i , ateti difficulties Was rendered h) W.liitt Administration, who have, 11!,.1,0 11;:mity nod who have made whtt( tovards averting these dart 1., th ?4th of January lasG ' the moment y ~h oulti have been Preparing tor some naive ctlictprizu open the campaign,they disinissed from v'ice eVery Transport' that was not abso4 enema..ll) , • for thb ordinary routine. business of "ti;,: Channel service, and nothing was left for offensive oiterations, WhawVer Ettpetiltion, therefore, it might beet; prndent to undertake, not a shidowpf pre paratlon was left to support it. In the lamer, note singleexertion was made to rescue Prussia : she was sotTered to perish before . out eyes. Such was the 'situation in• Which they left' the present Ministers, Stith iit)litin to inherit from them but weakness, Oitficoltles, and distress. &gar Littni4NCE, in vindication of the late Ministers, stated, that they bad an Expedition in c9ntemplation that would have been worthy of them tt o r t of the Country, and which . the present Mini sters 'would not dare to look at. • Mr. 214 stated, that the late Ministers had left to their successors a much greater number of Transports then had been received from them, If the 'Noble Lord thought the late Ministers had &Reg to do their duty 'ln any. particular, be should bring this matter bet Ore the House, when thermight have as opportunity of vindicating their !Row*. Th e vtegion wait then'called.for, when a division t ",ok placer— For the sec';4l , l teadiiig df the 13111 1 , 27 Against :J.', _gn —97 J,i,':~s Whilst stranger 3 were excluded Mtn tne tat►ery the Bill was read a 'secoeid time, 'and ordeted - to be committed this day. On our te-adrnissinn, we found Abut the Militia Supply Bill had also been read a second time, but ou the motion that it be committed for this day, Mr, Whitbr9ad and Lord Henry Petty obje&ed to the motion, on the ground that the House would not be allow'ed sufficient time to consider tht,. provisions of Lord CASTLIREAGFI gtli Mr. PERCSVAL recom mended that the two Bills should proceed through their respeiaive stages pari passu ; but at length it was agreed that the Bill should be committed to morrow. On the motion of Sir ARTHUR WELLESLEY for the second reading of the Irish Militia Volunteer Bill, the gallery was cleared for a division, which did not take place ; but we understand that the Irish Militia Bills were both read a second time, and or deredto be committed. IRISH INSURRECTION BILL. On our reAdriiisSion; ~we found the House en gaged in. proceedings upon the third reading of the Irish Insurreetion . Bill. Mr. Whitbread wished to Move an amendment, restoring the penalty upon Ma g istrates Who should' negled to - make a return to the Quarter Sessions' within a given time, of the per sons they . might appoint to a& under them ; and Mr. W. Smith was anxious to propose an amendment, to subjeet Magistrates to penalties who should be . guilty of misconduct in the exercise of the' powers 'given them by the Bill 'for arresting strangers. The Speaker -intimated to the two Hon. Members, that no amend inept could be proposed for imposing a penalty, un less they had the clause engrossed, when it should be read a first and. second time, and committed, af ter which it might be added to the Bill. Both Ho nourable Members complained of their being pre cluded from offering their amendments; when the Chancellor of the Ex.eheqUer explained to them, that the penalties were hot necessary, because they could not be recovered withouta civil suit, and the party would have his , redress at law. by suit, without a penalty. • Mr. Pos:sompt then moved, that the proceedings on the third reading be adjourned-; which was op posed by Lord Rec.:Nitta and Colonel VEREK'ER. A division then took place, but we could not learn the numbers. The clauses having been ia the mean time engrtissed, were brought up and lost on divisions. When we w e re re-adinitte , l, we found the ffouse occupied in the consideration of the Amendment, Moved by .Sir JOI:IN NEWPORT, . to confine the duration Of the Bill to one year and six Weeka after the commencement of the next Ses sion of .Parliament. A division took pitice on this Ainendment.--;•For it 2a--against it 112. .. When' again admitted, the question under consi deration 'Was that the Bill do pass. Mr. WARD was stating, that the manner in which the clauses had been got rid, of by insulting. majorities, without affording any opportunity of discussion, would justify him in not voting for the Bill, thOugh he should yield to the authority Of the Right HonoUrable Gentle man (Mr. 'Grattan) that distinguished friend of Ire land, who hod said it was necessary. • Mr. SnattioAN adinitted the groat weight and thority of that steady and tried friend of his Country, his Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Grattan), but de, nied that any necessity had been proved to exist, call ing for the measure. Even the preamble of one of the clauses contained a falsehood, and tile whole was founded on fallacious grounds. There was tto per son its that House, calling hiMself a King's Minister, that had dared to say that there were disturbances in. Ireland ;, he could not theiefore vote for a Bat* was to suspend the Constitution of the Country, without proof of the necessity'of enaaing it. • ~ Mr. GnATT)LIV re-stated, that he had' beena s assist h a " formed. that there were held in Ireland secret meet jog,, for tbe purpose of re-organtsatin to French force. The Bill was to put down„the French 'interest in Ireland, nut to. oppress the Irish Nation. He did 'not accuse his countrymen of being fond of ;disturbances or treason, but there were Same amongst them who gave up their - country, to embark their fortunes with its enemies. It was against them that the Bill was to operate, and lie wits ready to share the odium that might attach to it with the Gyvern . . tnent. ' _ _ _ Mr.-ffitowELL denied :that , the prea.mble'of the Bill'cOntained a faLiehood, and asserted, that Ireland' was at this inOment distinted in many places. After .a few Wordsfrotn "Mr. J. C. BERESFORD', the question was pa, that the Bill do pass, when ahother . division took . place at the instance of Mt. Shayidan. The numbers were For the passing of the Bill - 106 Against it - - 8 The Bill • of coorie was passed, and.-the. - lotto adjourned at if .-ALF PAST Six o'Ctocx.• MMLS. ARA! vtn--; I.ishon, t Dublin, I Waterford. Dv CiOttCillairill, I DUbilll, I Wilterforti. 1'I(ICE O STOCKS . THIS - DA y AT TWiLvit O'CLOCK. Vonaoli 4t 4 I Oqlniurty clic THE SUN. Quis plaza& f4i•itult4 AUDLAT • LONDON, TUZSDAY, JULY 28, 1807. The detail, which we yesterday' laid before our Readers respeaing the action between the Leopard, and the American Frigate, were in every respe& correta, except merely the name of the Frigate—it was the Chesapeak, Captain BARRON, and not the Constellation. It appears that some of the men be longing to the Ilie/arnpus Frigate,, which wus lying off Norfolk, hild deserted,. and openly poS raded the streets of Nosiolk, in defiance of their Officers, Application was made to the American Governgient to have the men Oven up, but no satisfa(lory answer could be obtained. Captain Dotrow, the senior British. Officer on the station, having received. information that some of thew men had gone on board the . Cliesopeok ,Frigate, which was about to put to sea, ordered the Leopard to GrUIZIO OIL ILIC 1...dr:5 WI; 1 [IC plil ptilia Ull VA41111L1(1% her for the deserters. When Captain 'HIY4TII asYe, of the Leopard, fell in with the (Mesa peak he sent a boat with a Lieutenant to ac.— quaint CV ! BARRON that information had • been ccCeivecl that some British deserters were ',on . board the Cltesapeak, and demanding permission to , search for them. This was positively refused. • The conse quence we have already stated. The anion was very short—the Leopard only fired two broadsides into the Chosapeak; the latter fired six or seven guns before *struck. The deserters, four in number, were found oti board the Chesapeak, and were taken out of her. She was then suffered to proceed on her 'voyage, and Was not carried into Halifax, as was stated ,in some of the Papers of yesterday. She; however, returned into Port, having received considerable damage from, the tire of the Leopard. She had three men killed • and thirteen wounded. When this event was known in Norfolk, it produced a considerable fer ment. The inhabitants entered into some violent Resolutions,: and - prohibited all communication With our Ships. From this statement, which we have reason to believe is in every. respeel cor re6t, Captain ,BARRON appears, to have been much' to blame. If he had atied with propriety,' he would have given .up the Deserters withoutyendering a de mand for searching his Ship necessary ; instead of which he denied having them on board. .We shall take. an early opportunity of offering some ollserva tionsupon the subjeti. A Telegr6phic Dispatch from Portirbotith this motning announced the arrival of the Lanthster, at Spithead, from the Rio de la Fittta, It is not yet known what intelligence - ahp brings.. ..WE : received last night Paris Papers to the Igth inst. but their contents are very unimportant. It is positively assert€d that the Emperor ALEXANDER will visit Paris in the course of the ensuing Winter. About 700 of the 52d Regiment embarked yester day' at Deal. It is supposed that the whole of the infantry, .consisting of twelve Battalions, will be embarked by to-morrow; and the Cavalry, CM.. sisting of five Regiments, by Friday. The following is a list of the Regiments which MUNN tbis,Expedition [Those marked with an asterisk. have embarked.] CAVALRY. 4th Dragoon G uards. j loth Ditto, the Prince's. WI Ditto, Ittitisktilings. Isth Ditto. 7th Light Dragoons. . intANTsiv. • ids Foot, 2 battalions strata;. ~ szth Regiment, t battalion.* 7th Rom Fugileers. 24, i battalion.* Bth King's Own, 1 battalion: 7 9tH, 1 ditto. 23d koy.d Finnleers, t bttt. had. one ditto. 32(1, aiw battalion.* ' gill, one ditto. 41d, one ditto.• . 950 Wilt: Corps. 5 comp.* . Besides.strong detachments of Horse Artillery, of the Waggon Train,'and the Staff Corps. :The Brigade of Light, Cavalry, viz: 7th, 10th , and 15th, is composettof the finest regiments in our service. • . . ' ' • . Previous to the Debate yesterday in theßouse . of Comnions; upon Lord CAsTLaaF,Aoit:s Bill for augmenting the Military Force of thy... Country, Mr. , 'MUT/MEAD put two Questions to his MAJESTY'S' Ministers : • the first was, 'whether' any Communica tion was likely to'he made tOtlie,liouse.iespeding th e Treaties which were stated to have been en tered into with Foreign Powers. The second Question related totheAdion between the Leopard and the American .Frigate. He wished to know whether that onion-Ornate event proceeded from ac cident,'. or whether it proceeded lion) any ordeti issu e d by biS MAJESTY'S Ministers. With respe& to the" former (-attention; the*CHANCELIOR Of the EXdIfECILTEII 00 : the Treaties alluded to being of a contingent nature, it Was possible that after what had happened upon ;the Continent, it Might tint he necessary . ',to; lay them 'before' the - Douse; but he ,believ'ed hiS Right Hon. Friend'Mr. CAN NINO would have some Communication to make upon the subject this day. In reply to the second Question, he stated; .that his M i tir,sty's Mi nbtera were not in complete .possessien•ef .all the details of the unfortunate event alluded •to ; but if, tnxin inquiry, .appeared that there had :been any improper condat of , the British ()dicer, there was every disposition, on the -part cif his Majesty's, Ministers, to make the fullest reparation. THE subjeEt of the _lrish InsurreCtion Bill was last pight resumed in the House of Commons, and Mr. GahrrAN again gave 'his firm support to it. In his Speech : on Friday. night, he stated, that I'. in various parts of Ireland there were secret nocturnal meetings, of a, dark and dangerous nature," that forcibly demanded a measure of this kind, and he lass night repeated the same statement as to the existence,of such treasonable and alarming- combi nations, declaring also, that there were French - Emissaries in that COUDtryo."44lT. SHBRIDAN op posed the measure, but acknowledged that he was chargeable vfith presumption in objecting to a Bill which was supported by those who were much more likely to know the state of Ireland, and the circum 'Hopei which :Inithe render such a measure Ile- cessary. IN A V - 4 1 14 IN 14 I , V . PoRTSMOUTII, JULY 27.—The Anna Mari BA It ENDS; from' Bourdeaux to 'ronningen, with wines, has been detained and sent into this , Port by the Strenuous Gun-brig, Lieut. J. 'NUGENT; the Grcyhonntl Lugger, FIRNBERT, - from Guernsey to Touningen„with spirits, by the Inconstant Frigate; and the , Bijerlartta, --; from Lisbon to Rotter dam, with iiines, by the Lief/ Frigate. • Yesterday arrived the Freedom, MORGAN s Diana, DAVISON; and John, &INN., from Sunderland ; Goodson, BLACKMORE, from Bristol; CatArtrine, • SaimoNs, froth Guernsey ; ' Mary, 11 , 1a4kic s , IOW& 'Waterford ; and Ceres, PET ERs, from.tteptiord- , ` The Laurel and Otter are now 'remaining at Cowes, in the file of *Wight, waiting for, •& fair wind to proceed for the Cape of. Good 'Heim and River Plata; their Convoy still remain at Spithead. • BRIXIIAM QUAY, JULY 26.---Arrived at Torbay the. Channel Fleet; under command of Sir JAMES SAUMAREZ, from the Westward. FALMOUTU, JULY 25.-••-Arrived Tou'ilS/404" Packet, Capt. Dotip, with Mails from ten days;' and the Cora, MOONEY, from Londo4.. for Baltimoll. Sailed the Atnerican Ship Enterprize, Captain KEMP, for New• York. DEAL, JULY Q6.--His Majesty's Ship Superl•, of 74 guns, and the Lightning Fire-vessel arrived .this afternoon from the Westward ; it is expeEted they will sail this evening for Yarmouth. His Majesty's Sloop Seagull arrived this tnorning., from a 'maize, and remains. • • His M#3tty'a: Gun-brigs Bustler and Furious,, sailed on- tt , cruize ; the former off Boulogne, the; latter off Ostend. , About 700 of the 52d Regiment marched from the Barrieits this morning, and are now etubarking,., at the North Port of Deal. A Battalion of the 43d, coosistingof 1 tao mtp, marched this afternoon for Ratnigete. , Yaubtotrilt, JULY 27.--The Ship w bich sailed yesterday,. A. M. on the Expedition to the Baltic, are as follow ' Prince of Wales, Admiral G ambier; PoMpee, Vie* Actrflirak Stanhope; Centime, Commodore Sir S. Hood 'Genet. Commodore Keats ; AI t red, Spencer, Carstain, Orion, Maids', Goliath, Nassau. Hercule, Vanguarcl,V4l444-' tot, ItubylOr the Line) ; Surveillance, Cambrian, Nymphet,: Led.l, Sybille, and Ft.inAise (trigates); Conine, -Atari' Masqulter, Leveret, Cs axle, and Goshawk ;Sluertnei , WV i t i Turbulent, Pincher , Fort:aril, Tigress. Urgent, Agate. . Alacrity (Gunabrigs); Fury, Zebra, and 1 lture/Itter' Ye:trio. Remain in the Roads, to proceed on Wednesday:. Minotaur, Rear-Admiral Essington c Korsolution. NsTl*. Agamemnon, Agincourt Vlll . llllt, and Defence (of the List Ai t.,04 so and Hussar ( Friga tes); Kichm9nd, SAlltionle Mint (Gim-briga); and douvius Romb. Remaining under Admiral RUiteeLL. Majestic, Ariel, 'Archer, and Lord Keith cuttlit. • Stunts's', Jtit.y . Vs......Cateleitiown :their Maho and , anchored at the Great gore, the Okyriel F ri ofati guns, Capt OWEN, and brought with Orr lona.' men,' irnprest last evening : mom am expel's", . Arrived , the ll'iioliaihirehder, with'tig _hispost: men and volunteers for 'll* Fleet rill6o irapieetii; Solebay Fri g ate ; Ca n t:Bitotitvt, *mg the $611.41111." JvLst thei - ':kkrurailiterts (:apt ‘ . PARKER, froth the . Driwns;' '• • . S4lle t cl: the Pesuuius Bomb,: Capt. Ami t y", goar Golierndi gills•Teuder, for the Downs. The Ctyde ts this day paid wages up tali% tratOlikk Jut.tr e7.—Sailed the Clyde, .Capt , . Owtur,.fords. Dowhi: 'CApt, PARKRA succeeds Capt. ioriliO rt the Coluthand of the Curlew; 'he being appointed to the command .of the.Staake. t, • Thb' Milture And Curlew ane ordered to firoati with all•possible expedition. - ;.. - . • . The Vißory, it 'is said; will shortly be commis., sioned at iChattam, and fitted out immediately to join the 'Channel Fleet, in lieu of those taken fron T it for the Baltic. - Windsor Terrace was uncommonly crowded ° II Sunday evening, owing to the fineness of the weatiol l : s and the breaking up of the young. G en tlemen I °` Eton College, who were present with . their paren ts and friends. The ROYAL FAMILY came on abont seven .o'dock : their IVia.tesTtte converted with lB . veral of the young • Gentlemen. A mong . the ee"'" pany were Earl MORTOM I - Sir 1. and Lady BAN„.ta . The bands of the Royal Horse Guards anti Stanvi - Militia played during the evening. The R 1 0 , 4, FAMILY remained on the Terrace till. halipestein' 'VAUXIIAILL SAILING Marca.--Yestentior t -i Jubilee Cup and Cover, given by the Proprietor 0f Vauxhall Gardens, was sailed for by the fitliosvial Gentlemen's sailing pleasure boats, who started frog' blackfriars Bridge at. tis.otelock. Beilissima, R,- .. Cotain FAA:0011111*. Mercury, ',. -* ---Asrtsir. _ • AL3lanta " • ------ENO3 SMITS.. The Bellicsima took the lead at starting, lied IT: peared evidently to havetheadvantage, being a moc" larger vessel, which she tristiittained the whole con' test and arrived at Vauxhall Stairs at half pest f i of having distanced the Mercury by nea r ly .a ip je ll an hour. The river, as . usual, was covet o4 , tb pleasure and 'Other boat", and the shores wertitiat ed with spe&ators. ,- 'Lady F. CAMPBELL, who so . sin Pt rished in the late fire at Coombank, in ' o 4v „, ii i° not less than seventy years of l'ige. She ....... ,'7l ; daoghter of ANUS MEREDItiI, A. and ta15011a.;_,....." - Sir W. Meatrunt, Bart. In 1752 she *al '` ried to Earl. FERRERS, the 'unfortunate Noblino: „. who was exe c u te d a t Tyburn, in' 1700, for ". ,e n Wilful murder of Mr. Joalbtr, 'hit Altewani ; s L was, however, divorced from him by Mt of Nil': ment, 'and after his . death, I Lord FRRD ERI Cit CAMPBELL I : l brOt g il ir e "ti r tornt;:i7iPC( k .' ll tu ' l of ARGYLE. . __,.. LONDON : Printed by K. HARASS (of l'clurrlklz-co 4‘ Bow-stre e t), and published by W. A. SCR tprs ( of Sou' tiff, . Moulton-strettl, m thr Sun-Unice, tie, Strami.