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them ; hut what was Mill more eutraordinary, he had seen the entire 150 childito in a garden in which there wits an abrindanee ot the most lempti.ig frail within their reach, end the masters •oared him that they had never missed any of it. Theme...gild sot sorely be a 'mower proof of Ike ad. curitage amend early hohitc—(Chrers.)--li was only by be. • ginning early that say permanent good could be effected. It was not naly necessary to train the infant early, but ,after vide to provide him with a profitable employment. It was quite evident that the present evils in !related arose from want actoployment thit was provided for is the most ample m•nnee in his proposed . gement. He should conclude with lite neinriple on which be set out, that unless some steps •Teri llama to remove the demoralizing circumstances by which the people . were surrounded, all hope of ameliorating cirri , ' condition was coin.--(l.ond cheers )—The sot thy 'Gentleman then proposed the following motutioaa lor the ' adoption of the meeting, which were cutlet' unanimously:- 1. That every child is materially influenced to good or evil • 14 the moralizing or demoralizing circumstances existing ,end him. 1. That certain classes of circumstances painless to a very great extent the power of moralizing and others of demu tallsins human character. 3. That the Circumstances In which the early life of each individual is permitted to exist, materially intiarace the dirpusitioos, hahit‘, manners, rehsioas moral conduct, pecuniary situation, and wen-being of every vile. • 4. That these circumstances ma• be divided into two large classes ; the, one favourable or good, the other un favourable or evil. 5. That these circumstance., moralizing and demoralizing, including those which create poverty, are to • gnat extent at the control of society, and particularly of the governing power in every State. 6. That fur centuries past the inhabitants of Ireland have been afflicted with • large portion of those circitmst•nces which are the most unfavourable and demotalizing, and below the present character, poverty, conduct, sod aufferiug o 4 the lower classes of the Irish. 7. That the inhabitants of Ireland are at this moment placed amidst eireamotancas which, while they are allowed to centime', are certain to produce to a large majority of them poverty, doicontent, anfferiow, and misery, and to the retnalniug part of the population many evils •1141 great dan ger. 9. That it is most d.sirable that these demoralizing and unfairontrable circomstaoces should be now removed, mad re placed by others of • coutrary tendenry. 9. That many of the most unferour.ible eirconssiances by which the Irish peasantry and British poor ale surrounded ernoot he removed without the aid of Government. 10. That except in particular districts in Ireland there does not appear to he 51. y want of food, clothes, or any of the necessaries of life, or even of luguries, or of the means by which all of them may be very greatly inc reased; on the estetrary, the suffering experieuced in this and other coon /rim appears now to arise from the excess which bas been produced. • 11. That there appears a total want of all arrangements to admit of • beneficial distribution of products which eta now be so easily created to excess. It. Thai these strange anomalies can be accounted for only on the supposition that a NEW CREATING kIF VINANICAL POWER OF ENORMOUS MAGNITUDE hes been latterly introduced to execute labour cheaper than been, and that society has hitherto failed to give it a bene ficial direction; but, ow the contrary, has stiptnely pernsit ted wientific improvements to destroy the vital prosperity of the great masa of the people in this and oilier countries, while mechanical power, properly directed, is capable of being made the source of unlimited advaalages. 19. That the outline of measures to give a beneficial di rection to this new power, and to secure the gradual perma nent improvement of the character and coaditiuu of the lower orders of society, have been explained to this Meeting; that they appear to be the result of much study, and of ex teasive succeisfulexperienceamong the working classes, and to be derived from a principle which may he safely adopted is practice by every religious and political party. 14. That this Meeting therefore deems this a fit subject to be investigated by the Legislatore, and resolves to Petition belb Houses of Parliament to take R into consideration. 15. That the follooing Petition be adopted and presented to both Houses of Parlisient " That the Irish peasantry end British poor are now de wrndeeito a low state of wretchedness, and require some well devised cad effective measures for their permanent relief and gradual impiuse:nent. " That no measures have been yet proposed whirls appear calculated to accomplish these objects. " That Mr. Owen bale persevered for many years in pre paring arrangements to give permanent relief to the lower clams. " That he has had notch experience in the maaagement of the working classes, and great Nicene in improving their condition. a We therefore pray your Hosiourable House to take his plows fur the permanent relief of Ilse lush peasantry and lilt 'limit pain onto consideration. " And your Polithmers shall ever pray." _ _ . _ . . le. That the Margsi■ of Lansdowu be requested to present the Petition to the House of Lords, and that our highly re spectable Cbairtoau be solicited to present it to the House of COllllll,OOll. 17. That the memoir's proposed to carry three plans into . . . exeeutioo appear well calculated to •ccumplisb the objects an View. _ 18. Tbalihis Meeting approve, of the (amok's of the proposed BRITISH AND FOREIGN PHILANTHROPIC SOCIETIES, and that vas LONDON BRITISH AND FOREIGN PHILANTHROPIC SOCIETY be mow roll. bLebed. _ . 19. That • Committee be now formed to carry this Reso- Wien into immediate execution.. !D That Ons Meatier( earnestly recommend to the Corn. rime to ins their best endeavours to obt..in the consent of its MOST GRACIOUS MAJESTY to become Patron of tie Widish and Furriest Philanthropic Society. Tint this Mettle' also recommends to the Committee to use Owe beet endeavours to obtain the most respectable patronage fur the Society. ft That this Meetiag strongly recommends that so party views of soy desciption should ewer be introduced lulu the Society. 23. That the Committee consist of the following Gentle. wren, with power to add to their another', and that lire asualitute a quorum : Sir W. C. De Ceespirty, J. I Lockhart, Eel. MA'. .1. Maxwell, jos. General Brows, Dr. Pinckard, Mr Edward Cowper, Dr. He.clowan, J. M. Mariam, Esq. U,. Ashburusr, Richard Taylor, Esq. Thos. Rowerofi, Esq. B. S. Jones, Esq. T.B. Rice, Log. M.P. I. L. Guldrotid, Esq. Henry Jones ' Esq, Cole W. J. Baldwin, L•q. Honer. Oevon. A lei. Sinclair Gordon, Esq. WiNiaap 11friary Crook, Eaq. Joseph Hoare Bradshaw. Dr. Tucker, K Owen, E.q. fr That the Thanks of this Meeting see due to Mr. Owen for his Plan, sod for his unceasiNg endeavuors to ono Iterate the condition of. the I'oor, rind of Society in general. That the Thanks of his Meetrog be given to thee:hammers fur his imp/Mist' and exemplars conduct in the C 1...,. A Petition was then rend, founded upon these Reaulutions, to he presented to Parliament. Sir W %I. DK CRLSPIGNY mid, that, having origmally brought that rpiestodi before Parliament, he thought it in. cumin nt upon hi to attend the alerting, and hr would beg permission to make a few observations. When he had first heard Mr. Owen's plea proposed, he considered it of such a gigantic nature, that he feared it was gaite impracticable, but after repeated conversations with hi.. worthy (sired, Air. Owm, he had been 1111111Crit to vied the plan in riper t ilk. at Lanark. 14e had seen the mystem !omitted on the spot, sod Ire could now .ay that be felt a degree of asionsAment nod garpri, that he was unable to oftpreirs —(Cheera )-11 steamed in his quite • new world, so &fleeces wee every Shim; from .hat he bad beer accustomed 1• see. These wee; ptra•nr !here from the •Wriieel "MP h ifilBr , to the moot ofivaticed prriodaratich•thert twttoiield owtoort then a degree of .ynoperby, swot wwtoo t Witegegwiwrti!, seek so he dui not ',auk avoid hotoo have addrotopl oohed to area. He maw there a maw (Mr. 0..,,) she'd/Nal talraeediwary wader Heateu—(Cheers)—wbu, with Ow Mat 1011COISINII Ito • auldnify, hid brought a system to perfection which, if ge nerally adopted, "wool effect aft ottiveraal improvement in the sentiments of mankind. He had, no doubt, much popular prejudice to contend with, for it was difficult to remove old poojadtee.. Rot the eonditiou of the moors was so di ff erent from what it hail been 30 years ago. that if our instituti were nut adapted to the thong- of ciocumalanireo,' the cuan• try moot tank--(Hear, hear.)—lt was upon these principles that he bad adopted the plan of Mr. Owen, contrary to the opinions of many of his friend., and most of those with whom he had forest isoorooliell He sow nu posprct of relief from any of the projeeta which had heels brought before Parlia ment on the subject of agreulture. It periled the old " Too many cooks spoiled the broth." Something, however, must he done, and he thought it better to endow_ sour to improve the condition by slow degree.,thati to le..ve it to the eioaseopienres of a state of thiogv which our to con bled to look at.—(Chreosl Mr. PARKINS said, he hail been long grqnainted with Mr. Owen, and of cowse hall an opportonity of estimating how amiable qualities. He now met how in his public capa city, and as far is lay in his power, he should give his plait Isis most cordial support. • Gent leinao Hoar the table, the !wavily of whose accent bespoke bin true Scot, made several attempt, to point out the MeMeacy of Me. Oweio's plan, hot all that could he enl. Petted from him amounted to this, " I tell ye It won't do ; its all a si•ionery scheme." Mr. CROOKE eulogised Mr. Owen for the perseverance he had displayed in overcoming prejudice, mot his toberaloty in occur/whisking the 'object he had in view ; and al highly did he approve of the plan, that he sincerely wished it was tarried into execution all over the country. Mr. JONES congratulated the country in having some thing pr..posed to them in a tangible shave, that promised an •osetioratiou of the condition of the country, and no mean. in his power would be left untried to ',afford its adapt too, Mr. Alderman ROWCROFT paid, that the gentleman who had just sat down was one of those who did out coufioe himself to words, but malt tested ho• sincerity by his •cta, fur he had subarribed the ruin of 5,00111. to forward the plan. All that Mo. Owen proposed wow 11311, to submit his prupo. Scion to the meeting, nut fur their present d•cisioss, hot their future consideration ; a n d whatever might be the result of the proposal, that meeting world incur nu responsibility. Mr. MAXWELL,. M.P. said, it would argue iu him a want of sosorthiug like gratitude if he abstained on that oc casion from eapreasing his thanks to his worthy friend (Mr. Owen) for the service be bad rendered his country.— He had the satioofvonion to reside near New Lomita, •bere he had an opportunity of wituestoug the operation of Mr. Owen''* plan, and he could safely say that there was not a class of population io the world mure exempt Now the commom vices of homanitty than those over whom Mr. Owen presided. Alr. Owen had discovered the means to rea der goearninent respectable and the *objects happy. It was, of course, do skiable that their Petition should be presented by some Member of importance, and if he could of f er an opinion, be would say there was no man in the House of Commons of greater talents, or who bail devoted more of lois attention to the subject of education and charities,' than Mr. Brougham, and It would be a great savistauce to their mauve if he could be prevailed on to support their Petition. —(Hear, hear) Thanks were then returned to the Chairman, after which the meeting was dissolved. The Committee to meet Tomorrow at the City of London Teeme, at Tiro u'Cluck. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF LORDS, WEDNESDAY, MAY 15. Their Lordships met at leo o'clock. APPEALS. YOOllO AND OTNAILI, Appellants ; Luis Respend•nri. This was sin Appeal from tier Court of Sect ion (Scotland). The Attorney. General and Me. Marra, were heard for the Appellants; Mr. Wetherell for the Respondeut.—Further bearing postpueed. ROYAL ASSENT. At a quarter before four o'clock the Lord• Commissioners, she LORD CHANCELLOR, the Marquis of CONYNG. HAM, and the Esti of SHAFTESBURY, dressed in their robes, took their seats no the Woolsack. The LORD CHANCELLOR directed the Deputy Usher of the Black Bud to inform the House of Commons that their presence woo required, in order to hear his Ma. jesty's Assent give. by Comuiis,imi so several Bills. Is a few animates the Speaker, attended by I Mem bers of the House of COMPIMOOP, arrived, when the Boys! Assent was given f o Ike following Bills:—The Malt Coon tervolliog Duties Bill, Commercial Credit (ketone!) Bill, Loci*. License Bill, Malt Duties (Scotland) Bill, Uses Bounties (Ireland) Bill, Creditor. Amendment (Scotland) Bill, Flax and Cotton Bill, Inekeeprre Bill, Receivers of Stolen Securities Bill, Justices of the Peace Sionsraory Pro. ceedings Bill, Dublin Fever Hospital Bill, Catwalk Cre ditors Bill, mid I private and local Bills. The Speaker and the other Members of the Hoses of Commons then reified. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. Earl STRADBROKE presented three Petitions from the Owners and Ocespiers of Land in the county of Suffolk, rompteining of aviculture! distress, and praying for relief. Earl STANHOPE preempted eight similar Petition , from the throe's and Occupiers of Land in the following coun ties :—une from Devon, two from Kent, two from Susses, Iwo from Cornwall, and one from Burks. Lord SUFFIELD also presented a mmllar Petition from the Owners and Occupiers of Land of a hundred in the comely of Norfolk. They were severally read, and laid on the table. Mr. Irving, Irene the Custom House, p•eseutrd a Retires of Grain imported since the Act of the 55th of George 111. —laid en the table. Lord Ssodon, /Hr. Lawtey, Mr. R. Martin, and other Members of the House of Commons, brought up four local Bills, which were severally read • first time The Marrtnis of PUTE presented • Petition from the High Sheriff and Grand Jury of Cardiff, in the groom! of Glamorgan, praying for the abolition of the pre sent system of disteibuting justice in Wales, to which the Noble blur quia added, that he could bear testimony to the oppression sf the present system, and begged that their Lordships would give the subject their ennsideratiou. The LORD CHANCELLOR agreed with the Noble Mar quis that the subject required serionit consideration ; but what was consplained of arose from the Judges of Wales out being donsittliated, as in this country, and to place them so Was a subject which required great deliberation. Lord REDINDA LE viol that Wales was in poeseosion of a law for the recovery of small dd_le, . .. l.lie. ', their Lord ships had been often petitioned to extend in this. Ile wail of opinion, that as the law now stood in Wales it was much better than if they attempted to alter it. Lewd CAW DOR supported the Petition, and slid, if the law for the rrrotery of simell debts in %Vides wen of such ✓eal benefit to the principality as had been stated by the Noble and Learned Lord, be would ask why it was not ex tended to this country The LORD CHANCELLOR and Lord CAM DOR ex plained. The Petition was rend, and laid on the table. REGISTERING OP DEEDS (IRELAND). The Eerier BLESINTON mowed that the Bill for the hewr registration of der& lie Ireland. which were executed in this serstry. should be reeemmillied. Lord REDESDALE opposed tbe 8011, as the:lresood that it was contrary to the Stamp Art. After some aaaaa station, is which the LORD CHAN. CELLOR, Lord HOLLAND, awl Lind REDESDAsLE Not a past, She Hill was seconeweitted. On the mottos of the LORD CHANCELLOR, the noble Cltawswao reports d progress, and obtained l are to all *sin oo Irloo.layoess. Lord CAW DOH moved that • Weans Ilsould be sent to Oa Hoes. of Commune, fur a Capy the post of the Committee of 'tam House, out the Jetbeature of Woke.— Orde. e . Uu the motion of the Fail a SHAFTESBURY, their iajourued to Fifthly *M. HOUSE OF COMMONS, WeDwun Ay, MAY 15. Thr SPEAKER took the Chair at half-past three o•rtock, and the House Immune been vuotssootd by the Depots Usher of the Black Rod, proceeded to the House of Press to hear the Royal Aks•ut Riven by CONIIIIIMiitIn to sundry Hilts, fur u bleb see our aepurt of the proceeduses iu the Lords. LEATH EP. TAX. r. J ERVOISE preseiried a Pr4lil.o from certain Tan ner. and other persotie engaged in the Leather Trade at Samilhampton, prising fur the repeal of the leather tax. Mr. ELLISON presented • similar Petition from New castle-upon Tyne. Mr. MONTEIfIi presented 'aired'', Petition from John Gilibunsoo, • leather Mat baut of Glasgow, on behalf ui hie. self and ushers. These Petitions were or.!ered to be laid on the table. PROTECTING DUTIES ON PRINTS. Sir R. SHAW p . ted • Petition from certain ellien printer* in Ireland, praying that the Act of the 1.4 George the Fourth, cap 4), imposing duties on printed muslin. and other good., in favour of printed calicoes, may not be re. pealed. Mr. F. LEWIS thought the system of protecting duties Melly peejedieral to Ireland. Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON asid i the interests of those per sons who had hers induced In seat their capital in mauls. (+Worm in Ireland,• under the system of protecting ought not to be deprived of the protection which that vyatrtn bat held out to them. Mr. WA LLACE motored the Hon. MeMber that the ob ject of what he called the protecting duties had not escaped she munition of the Commission of Inquiry; mid (he was us dentood to add) that • measure founded on their recummes: dation wrield be int►oduced on the subject. Mr. D. BROWNE thlught, that in whatever wan done in such cases as these, they ought to be guided by the Art of Union. Sir J. NEWPORT thought the term protecting duties mis- applied to there duties, which injured both the consumer in England, and the manufacturer in Ireland, and ititetpused a bar to the fere commimirattin between the Iwo countries. Mr. WALLACE said a kw words which, from the noise is the House. did out reach the gallery. Mr. LIT TLETON said, when the Report of the Commis lion came forward, he bad no doubt it would be found condem natory of the practice of the Chancellor of She Exchequer in bringing forward measures one day, and rescinding them the neat. The Petition was then laid on the tilde. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. Sir CHARLES MORGAN presented a Petition from ■ Comity Meeting of that Clergy, Gentry, Farmers, Yeomen, and other neeh9iders of the County tif Monmouth, com plaining of the Agricultural Distress attire county. They dere a strung and frightful whire of wide.xpresiling ruin among the tenants; of farms abandoned and thrown upon the hands of the landlord ; and prayed for a reduction of taxation as the only effectual remedy. The Hununntble Baronet was understood to say that he felt it his duty to pre sent the Petition, although be did out concur In its contents. Sir R. WILSON wished to ask the Honourable Member whether he meant to state that the Petition was not respec tably signed, and that the facts which it stated did not rest on credible andreapectahle authority Sir C. MORGAN said, the Petition was signed by the High Sturiff on the part At' the meeting, which he believed to have been most respectably attended, and that what he had meant was, that be did nut agree will) them in opinion as to the remedies proper to be applied fur the relief of their complaints._ . . . Mr. SYKES said no answer had been given In the opomittim of his Honourable Erma, which had for its object to ■ lain whether it was or was nut the fact, as set forth in the Petition, that the extensive and serious distress spoken of in it existed in the county of Monmouth. Ii was material that the Ronne Shntll.l know the true state of the ease. Lord G. SOM ERSET sold, he coneeived that the Peti tioner@ were by no means likely to state as rant what was not true. Ordered to be laid on the table. TITHE orr POTATOES. Mr. SYNGE COOPER presented • Petition from the High Sheriff. and several of the moot respectable Magistrates and Landed Proprietors of the C,ounly of Sligo, complaining of am attempt to introduce intothal part of Irel.nd thes,stem of tithing potato. ea, which was hitherto confined to the south of Ireland, where they stated it to be a notorious fact that it was the main mow of the flogitious combination of White Boys, and of continual a.. of outrage and violence; and they represented that the potato crops ought in be free (tom tithe, as they hail hitherto been considered, because they were fol lowed by • course of tillage from which the clergy derived great advantage. The Hun. Member begged bare to im press upon the alteution of the House the very important stature of this Petition. The grievance of which it cone. plaitied called loudly for the interf. retire of the House; as (be was understood to say) he knew that the clergy would have asserted to • comeueition if the Archbishop bad out set his fate against it.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. A BERCROMBY said, the Petition was one which must strongly recommend itself to the mind of every person who was a friend to the peace mid tranquillity of trollied, and who could feel foe Its present distressed conditenn. Of the fams which it Meted, from his ignorance, he was unable to speak; but he was sure that every man who lamented the exteut of the evil ire the south of Ireland, must strongly op pose its extension to another district which had hitherto hero free from it. The Hon. Member commented at some leergile on the system of letting potato gsrdeuo to the labourers tsr Leland, to which be ascribed a great portion of the mis chief which the people of that country bed sustained. He wished to mention one ciecsimstance, net as • complaint against the elergymen, because he had the law on his side, but for the information of the House of Commons, im order to induce it to turn its attention to an evil of so alarming an extent. The circumstance to which be tattooed was, the fart that one clergyman in the neighbourhood of Skihhere en, bad, in the COSMIC of Sitters years, sued one 8,000 processes • for enforcing the poyment of his tithes —(Hear ) Sir .1. NEWPORT said. the district which the Honour able Member (Mr. Abereromby) had 'petitioned, was in 1803 aciteted in an excessive degree by the lament mooed in tits exaction of tithes, and reqwred the utmost exertions of the Magistracy and the Govecerment to re.ture it to tranquillity and good order. And if that dreadful curse (for be could call it by no other name) of iiihrog the potato crops were now introduced into II:e &oriel from which Slits Petition came, and which had bilk, to been free from it, it would, be his opinion, lead to scenes of the most dreadful tumult and disorder. It had been he nil ley the Ecclesiastical Courts iii Ireland that if • person consumed for hie nwu use a per lion of the crop before the tithe hat Arco taken, where the tithes were paid in kind, the proprietor of the tithes WllO entitled to be paid his tithe in money on a valuation of the whole crop. That practice had hero the *readies of much misery lord suffering on annoy occasions, but more Nalco tarty 110 in the preset., season of distress. A lay linpropriator of tithes in the county of Cork received notice before the last harvest of the latention of parties to lay out the r tithes In kind. He areurdingly, 'divided and received his tithe of the corn; but the potato crop not being in a fit eeteditioa fur set ting out, it was agreed between him and the parties, who, be. tug illiterate peasant., were not •ware of any necessity of an agreement in writing, sad, therefore, confided in the ',that arrangement, that the half of every fifth bed of potatoes should be reserved for the tithe. The necessities, however, of the peasautiry,. as was frequently.the case, compelled tbr us to have rimerree to shit ' , Sty crop fur their daily saseetiasice loftier the veers' crop was resoly for diggiog. The 11C11.011 afterwasda lerniug set wei,damageel the whole, aod destroyeg • considerable portion of the crops; and its that state of Wags, the I.y impropriator before mentioned briug soot for to take his tithe, claimed to be released from his agreement on the fecund that the eutesumptiou of a part of the crop before 11, seer ae.n. gathered and the tithe wan paid. although it had hero WTI toary to faru:sh food for the homely, entitle d him to lie paid by velualion. He estoldttLed his claim, and the valuation was taken, set spun the de tonged crop, but on the sable of the crop before it Ira jolted, mod on that valuation he had proceeded evilest tits the y r a r a i r s t ui so.—(Hear, li t e h e t. r, t ea l r ki n . g ) 7l lli e r ni s w i a n s e apee the cell, of soolsorofes of Ireland —(lltH,, hear)—sod he wished to impress on the House the necessity itaertfer tug, and be did most earnestly !opium the House to interfere to prevent the intension of that sys• tem to any Part of Ireland that was not before subject to It. He coedit not sit down without exprelaing his esiogishotent and inilignition that such ■ time as the present, when such was the condition of Ireland, such the pineinz &Weis of the labouring population of that country, as to call forth the exertions of Ilse hen,. titmice of the people of England—that any mail Rhombi have tlionglit of selecting such a period as the opportunity (or attemptusz the exten sion of a system which had given birth to so much misery, and outrage, and suffering, win rev, r it bail prevailed, into a district from which it had hitherto been txcluded.—(Hear.) . - Mr COULBURN trusted the House would not think it unnatural in him to feel anxious to seise the earliest oppor• I fealty of explaining Cu the House some of the circumstances which had led to the introdnolon of the tithe complained of into the comities of Connaught. The circumstances of the case which gave rise to thin Petition were as follow :—A gentleman in . s parish in Sligo, who some lime ago held • farm of 400 acres, having at the same time a large property let to different Immo, was in the habit of paying to the clergyman a enM of 101.. as a composition for the wool and lamb tithe on Ms' farm of 200 cries. In the course of time he thouglit proper to take Into his own hands a part of the he hid before lit; and increased his own occii tel,ooo4crea.. Having thus lidded 800 acres to his enntemilled.that be wis instilled in misting any ad, dlillmtugliefiernersmennt onus composition for his tit,. es. • lineiftereglins t ell 9004 is vain to his candour and la/aera t_iti;leiriediti it length compelled' to proceed spiry tigliamste . l7 the clergyman was advised by Ce see d t o • prile roda unit the lithe nn the potato prods, .e, fur the peipose elt c int the costs to which be should' be pet, in silk easel ofirecreding In his snit. That part of the clai m it teat tied excised pent alarm la the minds of t h e p eo pl e of mot district. The gentleman analog that le Isbould probs. MOO ie defending the suit, after the der : g r im had been . peal* einesiderable expense in instituting proceedings, con gested In pay the additional sum claimer I for the wool and lamb tithe. The clergyman then insist. lon his right to be iNdeninified fur the expenses he had ince rred, which the gels 'leans refold's' to pay, he then felt hh nself obliged to par se• his claim for the tithe on the pole to crop. He was us willing to state any eircemstatices of an irritating tendency, but he could not allow the House to 'oe misled by the course of the discussion. The Bishop e s iiie; led to had not approved a the increased claim of tiller , lIIP represented; he would not make himself a party to the qseatios ; but upon the costs of the defeated action, stri%lng not of the resistance of a gentleman to that elai no, he had advised the clergyman out In yield his right. He understood that the action was withdraws, and ap amicable negociation was on foot. La to the general question of the lithe, be differed from them who hail ta,ieken ; he believed that the tithes contri. bitted less to oho distress and confindon than the other muse alleged, namely, the exacting of rent in many instancy far beyond the value of the land. The landlord mime drat and took this exaggerated value, if nu other way, by distress; there was then moth* left for the clergyman ; he bad no choice but to sue or surrender his right, and hence the ex traordinary number of snits for tithes. Mr. HUM E said that he had Deferred his motion on Irish tithes at the request t,f the Right Hua. Secretary, and for tier impose of waiting fur the measure which they were all led to expert from Government. Day after day he had received fresh communications, and yet the Session was likely to pass over without Government doiog any thing. From the siren and forcible statements he had arrived, he wondered how Government could let the matter rest another day. He was reluctantly obliged to interpose. He was not as well qualified as be could wish fur the task; but he would use his hest &Wales to bring the subject under the consideration of the House the first week be June. The discussion, if it would do nothing else, would give the House exact informatios on a subject, upon the extensive evils of which they were but ill informed at present. Mr. S RICE *grime' with the Ministers that this might not be the proper pi nod for bringing on the general question 011ie tithe property. But the Petition was nut to be consi dered as that of a simple individual; it was intended to represent the sentiments of a whole county, and it was gigged by the High Sheriff of Sligo, the inhabitants of *huh complained of a grievance, the theme of much dissa tisfaction through many other parse of Ireland—the lithe on potatoes. It was a comparatively new grievance, and it wag various in degree in the sr venal parts of Ireland. The taxing of other articles, though mischievous, was, much as they teased the produce to the cuusumer, light competed with the tithe of potatoes, collected at the limed of famine and lasurrectien. He was of opinion that the troubles of Ire land now, and heretofore, might be tecaotirrd, generally speaking, by the presence or absence of this tithe. They ought certainly out to proceed iticautiously in taking it away ; they ought to be ready. as he was, to realist soy wa rm inttentbment on the rights of the chords, as 'or any other class. But there ought to be inquiry to pee how far the evil, might be alleviated. He denied, on behalf of him self and others countered with the lands of Ireland, that they were careless as to the mischief they caused, provided they got exorbitant mum. Those of them whu were Mem bers had waited to see *bat Ministers would du. The land lords were ready In make any necessar y saes ifice for the peace •nd well-being of the commie!, and would go us far as the clergy aerie inclined for that purpose. Mr. DENIS BROWNE said, that the House most be anxious to 'lilies, the Petitioners, and if no oilier Member would undortake it, he himself would du his best to induce the House to legislate thereupon. Mr. GOULBU RN explained. . - - - Mr. PLUNKETT said, that it was undoubtedly the listen lion of Government to bring forward some measure upon the 'crucial subject. At die same time he would be dealing mull nocandidly if be vet •.e not to elate, that olrou the topic of potato tithes he did not clearly see his way. Whatever might be the nature of the right, or h o wever various the methods of enforcing it, he could not see 6.,w the House could set without a direct interference will the rights of c'erical property. He would listen to and he most happy to adopt any sufficient remedy; bat slier the fullest condi- Jet-altos which he could give to the subject, he could nut tell how they were to interfere without so direct an infringe meet on the eight's of church pemerty, as would be likely to lead ill greater evils than existed at present. The subject would requite the calmest de-liberation. Auto the discussion pi monied by the Hun. Gentleman, the arguments, whatever they were, must he equally applicable to every other species of tiihea. Whit was the intention of the Hon. Gentleman' Did he mean 10 minute the collection of the potato lithe throughout, or give a modified cisme to all, even those parts win re no out h tithe exisitd ? li.itevir it was or might be, there would be pro /aril° a direct infringement of the tights of property, which might be fullowrd by the atSpliratioo of the same measures and principles to riser) , other species of ploperiy. As to the causes of the distress, in his opinion the gre-ter portion of the mischief was attributable to Ike exactions of too much rent If the Gentlemen of that counts y did not begin to feel th it the ',stem they seirJ on toward. their leftists respired alteration, it so. in vain to look Cur any Wise hum Ate commutation of the tithes. Fir N. COLTHURST hoped that Guerrosnost would ""ert'ke she sleek because their nicasurrti would have more weight. e was of opinion that 1,111,11m-de were mainly les blow fair the existing evila. Mr. DAMSON, den. rain , that when the subject came before the Home, it would be seen that the errgy were ••• ...sally moderate part for:iestiog, viol that emir' of she mis chief waa owing to the rapacity of the landloitla. Mr BECHER defesded the IniollordA, who were as well &spotted its do justice as any 1113 hi r peri.uos. It was idle to tax them with nosing the Costrui:on by rictorttug recta; whin iu many parts they had rev,. J for n lung titer to re. elite them. The flectuatiuu of tithe, 1% MI the crrat He did nut blame the clersy, but their prociorr ; the former did not receive any thing of the soon., vi hick the latter col lected. The arduolie duties of the I grimy, who wire obliged to be coustausly occupied, like police officers, io keeping the peace, ought to be cestsideied 1111e11 speaking of their condition. Sir H. PARNELL eootrosrrer•d the declaration of Mr. Mara, that the evils were mostly arias to the e xtoi nous tit the landlords. Colonel TRENCH rergretted In heir of the diffiraltiea felt by the Attorney G-neral, that he hid little hope of relief by c ~,,, moialiou Dr Whet Hating beets connected with the at•ntr) iu Ms youth, he felt the hvelirst Interest ill their roulades, mai was mat union for relief Prom their n, Mr. R. MARTIN mid that there was no adequate emu, yet offered foir the clergy Morin enlisted the postural f seek s tithe, wader the eireurestane,_n •Ileged. Thr pers. !t e r u urve rnaei rii . y . tt he r r ttbe.stopatyitmh,i tmovriealiit oilier beli e s i t . n l a h i , llf . t b rit u l t ile ib to . COMOdered i• his bargain with landlord He diduot feud the laudlurds , whose curcluet was reprelionsible- He related the cage of a poor str.etch who was compelled to his rent and maintenance keeping Immo If in a tile wico. diesel ensidition, to dr . ir sa upon him the commiseretion of the piney passing to 'he sea side, and this by eiteeivinr e and agreement with 'ma landlord. He was of opinion that the potato tithe sir mild be abolished altogether, sod it usi some reams for that it was a novel doe, which hail cot been careered ii' I centuries after the settlement of Mr. PERRY ER said a few words. Mr. NAWIIN explained. Mr. CU r .sTEIS sai•l that be should seek for the MTh. f,. your fur England, if there were any thing time for 11 . ductie- 5 csf Irish tithes. English ag iculture was quite mue l ., distressed, and he would make the brat fight he ran .1 t r .: get the tithes removed by the same roe, .s. Mr..GRATTAN protested against the .upposition of distress of each rituality being similar sod equally great. 11. was of upiniuu that the potato tithe ought to be c.o.], removed, the other Whitt commuted, soil the powers of the Cottaistorial Court considerably abridged. Mr. C. RE I . CHINSON protested against t h e Opinion au I the mischievous react of spreading it—thal there we. ia dietiess in Ireland but such as related in Fmtlaud. It•- pledged himself that there never was distress heard of owl, an orderly Government like that which pervaded is tt e south and west of Ireland. Had they ever heard of whale districts where men', after providing potatoes aid water t•.r their wives suit children, paying rent, and mall •tylo: tithes, had nut ten shillings left to clothe and educate them , Much of the mischief was attributable to the peoprieto,„ both present and absentees. There could be ma pirmaitect tranquillity in Ireland until the lower orders were better secured by the laws from the wiongs leeward by their su periors. Their misery was so sharp and . xtreme that they must fei I noxious fur the chaste of sacrilleteg their live., rather than perishing%) hopelessly. Mr. D. BROW F. and Mr. CURTEIS explained. Mr. S. COOPER add2d a few winds. Mr. GOULBURN explained. Sir J . NEW PORT explained. the tithe in "Mica inn a■ article of production upon which tithe had sot bee mended for centuries. It was the Amy of the Liginistate in guard against such calamities as Inuit arise from 'itch a system. The Petition was ordered to be printed. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE gime nutire of a motion for bringing under consideration the rose of all the absenteea of the empire, under the present ri•rumstsnres of t►e country. Mr. DUMF. moveJ for Popes. ref■t,se to the Coninen fur provisions for lb* balks, to be printed. Afro Belem, respecting the four and a half p.r cent. duties.—Or.irred. Mr. BEAUMONT poitponed a motion of his till t►e 61k of June. Sir .1. NEWPORT delayed a 'notion of big till Tuesday next. Mr. CALCRAFT presented a Petition from Deptford, reepeetisg iron cuffins.—Laid on the lahle. Mr. HUSKISSON presented a Pe.:iion from the !Regis. pates of St. James's division, Westminster, respecting the licensing system—Laid on the table. Mr. BROUGHAM complained of the practice of some midland Magistrates, who had reftisisd licenses except the parties applying were found on inquiry to be free from the charge of taking in particular of sespapers. Hr knew of missy mach cases having occurred in the north, and hr gave this public intimation, that those persons who so acted would certainly be visited seamier or later fur such as unjust stretch of authority. For if be heard of many more such 00000 0 be would bring the suZiject more directly before the House ' and make the disgrace IS. parties convictions, should their (outdoes in future put him to that Necessity. A Message from the Lords requested Reports of Commit tees of 1817,20, and 21, on the Administration of Justice is Wales, to be treat to their Lordships. Mr. HUME gave notice, that no the first Snpply day he would move fora reduction of expense for Inspectors of Militia in the !onion Isles, and the abolition of the ottire held by Sir A. Wood. CIVIL LIST. Mr. Laull•RD rpm to submit his promised mo tion for the redaction of the Third Class of Hie Civil List. He thought he nerd hardly arge any general arguments lo favour of economy ; it was demanded by the country throughout, the dis tresses of which, from the overwhelming burdens, made it necessary to be strictly erifirced; the Speech from the Throne, and the subsequent re ductions of the Civil Lost, proved that there was a general sense of the necessity of it. A reduction had been made in the personal expenses of the Sovereign, and ten per cent. reduction had been also made in the other parts of this very class. Much greater retrenchment, however, was necessary. His Majesty sympathized with the sufferings of his people; Ministers on the other hand, declared that there could be no relief to the country from any re duction which could be effected. It would he seen in the end which example was to be followed. He pointed out the great augmentation which had been made in the Civil List by Mr. Pitt, in 1792. oil account of the rise of prices above those of 1786, when it was settled. He reverted to the alteration of prices in favour of the receivers ainee the Act of 18 1 9. It was true that Ambassadors abroad might not be able to profit by this alteration of value in the full amount; but the Titration was if they were to he kept up to their former pitch of splendour when the people at home were sink ing to beggary—when they were burdened with taxes which they could not coritioue to pay without ruin. Another reason for reducing these allowances was, their profusion win rio way conducive to the comfort of the Soren ign or the convenience of tie county, ; they had berm enhanced in various ways by a di' vet incresse also. lanes, and by the rise to the rill le of money. He would state some reiom,4 and la , ts to sheer that a very considerable redection of expense ought to be effected on this br4orl. of IF. • exprnOitate. The expenses had beet. ei:hat:e..d vt.:..reasing die 11•1171- her of agems in the little 1: owls, which arm d satellites In the IFIo!r; A I foot ce ; tl ey had also la• ~ increased by seittlim.-, out all c.rs of . u superior rank. Where a Charge (lea MLitt a was wont to be em ployed, an Envoy E‘traoriltilary woe wit it iweillY times the expense. It would he difficult to Is sign good rea•nos for the to.-..outi to Swit7t.t laud. Was it to blieu that it. PrOl4.o.oii as tlkor States declined in importance to. Eolope they ruse in our consideration ? job had been most aptly selectee tor a eeparat e motne; it was so but that he disclaimed it ; it was so anomaly sV.i , among the charges with wi itch it it as CI:1•01:(1. lie proceeded to Collirllft the expei.”.. of Anibliq,A , ns 179 s with the time exit ease to 1842. WiCtuot i.nprortur our rank or r r onsideratiuir in Europe. there had been a rout' tire' 'ease of 150,0001. a year. Olt the expenses of Amber adore' salaries alone there was au increase of Go,oool'. lie cothll not see what necetwity them retnamed , if any had esis....l, for keeping up so large a scale of diplomatic ea lieuse in the Coutti . There was an inefrio of expense for the IMO dons of soy kind to Ittl!. It dr were increastd oi one 179: from 10,C001. 1.. la IL r tt ( r r it r. tt