The Sun. — London, England, 1802-04-06 00:00:00

W• 3 CAI lICS WiSn , nowever, tO give time tot eVo&fy information that could be adduced upon the stibjea. Mr. GREY said, that so much of the Right Hon. Gentleman's IMr. PITT'S) speech bore so lit tle relation to the question; that he could scarcely discuss it without transgressing the bounds of order. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Prue) having however taken the advantage of some passages in the speech of his Hon. Friend (Mr. WHrTEREAD,) to enter into an account ,of the aas of his admini stration, and to impress upon the House the advan tages which that Right Hon. Gentleman had from his condua, he must beg the indulgence of the Committee, whilst he said a few words in an swer to the assertions made by the Right Hon. Gen tienian. There were two points peculiarlyprotninent in the suhjea of that day's discussion—the one was, the abandonment of that which had been called the solid System of Finance ; the other, the infringement cf that Aft of Parliament which was it:tended to bind all future Chancellors of the Exchequer, and was a measure of which the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. PITT) who brought it forward, was so tenacious that he could brook no opposition to it. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. PI IT) now said, that he should watch with anxious jealousy the measure pro posed by- the CHANCELLOR of tile EXCHEQUER, nut if he found that it would strengthen and add to the efficacy of the Measure, he would give it his sup port. This, however, should teach the Right Honourable Gentleman to be a little less confident in his promises, and sanguine in his expeaations.— The first object of the present measure was the abandonment of the solid -System of Finance ; and here he would ask, whether it was consistent with public faith, that those debts which were to be li quidated in the course of eight or nine years, should be consolidated with that which was not to be re deemed but in a much longer period I—Whether the consolidation of 56,000,00b1. which was to be redeemed in 'eight or nine years, with a debt w hi c h required a much longer period to liquidate, was con- Fistent with the public faith, pledged to the Cre ditors ? The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. PITT) had pledged the Income Tax for this sum—a Tax to injurious and oppressive, that his Successor was compelled to abandon it. It had been called a War Tax ; but was the Right Hon. Gentleman prepared to say that if the War had continued it would have been possibie to have continued to collect this oppres_ si 4. Tax 1 The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. PITT), poi tting die real subjeft in debate, had entered into a general history of the success of the War ; but what did this success amount to ? The Right Hon. Gentieman (the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER) had said, that we had gained all that we had not lost. This at a former period of the War would have been called a negative success. But had any objea of the War been accomplished ? The Right Hon. Gentleman said there had. Let the People of England, who bad felt the burthens of the War, decide the ques tion : or, if the Right Hon. Gentleman was not alive to the cry of the distresses of the lower orders of the people, let his fellow labcurers in the con duet of the War decide; those who now said, that in signing the Treaty of Peace the Minister had signed the ruin of his Country. For what. objet was the War undertaken ? Was it to prevent the increase of the power of- France, and was not the flower of France now increased beyond any former period ? Had not the Right Hon. Gentleman, by his measures, realized to France all that her most ,arnhitiOus hopes could have conceived ? it for the exriklion of French principles ? Was the Right Konourable Gentleman prepared to say th?Jt the power of the First Consul was not founded ❑pon Jacobinism Was he prepared to say, .that that Chief was not yet the child and cham. _ _ _ pion of jacobinism 2 Was he prepared to say, that no dangers were to be feared from the enormous powerof France ? The Right Honour able Gen:let - Dan (Mr. Pt yr) had triumphantly re frreti to what had been said by his Hon. Friend Viturrnt:EAD), with respc& to the predi6 - tions of that Right 1-1:;r. Genticinan in 1792, of fifteen years Peace. The Right Hon. Geniirman did not appear to have a very good memory of what passed at that period—he said, that by an unremitting ::hour and economy, and the cultivation of the.arts or Peace, the Finances of the Country had arrived that height of prosperity, which they had then reached. He forgot, that previous to that year, there had been periods in which he had neglected to cultivate arts of Peace—there had been two Anna_ rnents, one of which he (Mr. GREY) thought wholly nrnecessary. The Right Flora. Gentleman (Mr. PITT) said, that he confidently , hoped, in 1792, in com mon with others, that however inimical to social order the principles of France might Then bc., that this Country would be able to keep aloof from any contest .rich thy ; : Couritry. If his (Mr. GREY'S) memory did not fail him, the Right Hon. Gentle. !flan crated, at that time, that he saw proofs that the French Government, though more powerful, might become less obnoxious. Let it he admitted, however, that the Right Honourable Gentleman bLki a sincere desire fir Peace in 7792, Was it any proof that the Right Honourable Gentleman did not plunge this Country into a War in 7793, which might have been avoided I He conceived that this couhi not be a fair reason. It was incon: however, with order, to go much at large ;nto this subject, hut he felt it necessary to state hi s opinion. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. PITT) had .3fsconted upon his own merits; he - (Mr. GRF,Y) could .not now enter into a discussion of those ruerit, , ,, either in entering into the War or hi; refusing to negotiate. The Right Hon. Gentle man hAd not been content with def,•nding himself, hut he had a wicked others. The Right Hon. NUICIIIMI (Mr. PITT) had accused him (Mr. GREY), nnd those with whom he atted, of deserting the House, to which - they never returned, unless to ob- Aztu(!t the measures of Government. He did not `fcei himself accountable to the Right Hon. gentle r-11AI frit the motives of his conduct on that oc- citsion. He, and those with whom he aaed, had uniformly' opposed the system of the Right Hon. Gentleman, from the operation of which they Lad foretold ruin to the Country. They contended th.t if a system of moderation was adapted, which should excinde an arbitrary conduer towr-cli Foreign The House ha . ving resumed, Olt Report was or dered to be received to-morrow. CORN TRADE, Lord GLENBL:RFIE moved, that the'Order of the Day be read for going into a Committee on the Corn Trade. The SPEAKER having left the Chair, Lord GLENBERY I E moved certain Resolutions, that the Exportation of Grain from Great Britain to Ireland should be allowed, even though the price should be higher than that at which such exporta tion is prohibited ; also exportation Of grain from Ireland to Great I3ritain•ro be allowed, t h oug h t h e price be higher in Ireland than that at which ex portation is prohibited. After a few observations from Mr. FOSTER, Mr. CORBY, and Lord GLENBERVIE in explanation, the Resolutions were put and agreed to. The House having resumed; the Report was or dered to be received to-morrow. The House adjourned at Half-past Nine o'Clock. THE SUN. SOLED; QUIS DICERE FALEUM AUDEAT ? LONDON, APRIL 6, 1802. WE yesterday stated to our Readers the Biddings for the Loan of 25,000,0001. and had the satisfac tion of observing, that it was the most beneficial for the Country we ever remembered, the Interest to be paid being under Four per Cent. Highly be_ n,eficial as it is, however, for the Public, we have np doubt of its being so likewise for the Contrac tors, as at one time yesterday it bore a premium of more than Four per Cent. Last night the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought forward his Budget, and a more satisfadlory one we never heard. The substitutes for the In. come Tax are such as, after the operation of that Tax has ceased, will be felt only in a slight com parative degree. The New Taxes come under three General Heads, VIZ. A Duty upon Malt, Hops, and Beer, z,000,c001. Upon Exports and Imports, 1,000,0001.; and Upon certain classes of the Assessed Taxes, an augmentation of One-third. These Taxes, taken at a moderate calculation, will produce about 800,0001. per annum more than will pay the Interest of the Stock now created, and of the 56,000,0001. for which the Income Tax stood pledged, and which will, should such an excess ac crue, be applicable by Parliament to the relief of other Taxes, or in whatever way to its wisdom may seem best for the public good. We cannot refrain from again congratulating the Country at large, upon the high stare of the Public Credit, and of the general Wealth and Resources of the Empire, so clearly evinced in the Loan whicla was yesterday contrafted for. The price of Consols at rz o'clock to-day was ;or Money 77 4 -I,—for April 78.—0 m. s 4 zprern We last night received Paris journals to the 2d instant inclusive. They contain little that is im portant. JosFFil Bo NAP AIi:TE had arrived at Paris from Amiens, which place he left on thc' morning of the 28th The Tiers Consol. were on the Ist inst. at 55. The Governor of Cadiz died on the third of March, poisoned . by eating meat which had been allowed to stand in a. copper vessel : ail the cormma pany were.affeeted in a violent degree. There was a report at Poersburgh. that Their. Majesties proposed making a tour to Switzerland. Prince FREDERICK Of HESSE DARMSTADT, died on the I zth ult. at Darmstadt. The Hereditary Prince of SAKE WE IMAR was expeded at Paris. More troops are embarking at Brest for St. Do- Iningo. A battalion of the 77th and nine compa nies of ar•illery have been put on board, and we should, from their names, suppose the transports to be chiefly English l there being amongst them the Sally, the Constant Trader, &c. THEIR MAJESTIES and the PRINCESSES came :o Town this day from Windsor to Buckingham_ jouse. Lord WHITWORTH, Ive believe, will not go to Paris until the Ratification of the Treaty has taken place. We hear that Lord SIDNEY is shortly to lead to the hymeneal altar Lady CAROLINE CLEMENT, third daughter of Lord LEITR IM. A report was yesterday prevalent, of the death of a much-respeded CHIEF JUSTICE ; but we have great consolation in thinking that such report was unfounded. A Letter from Madras informs us, that on Wed nesday the 16th of September, the Right Hon. the Governor, attended by His Excellency the Com mander in Chief, the Members of Council, and the Gentiemenof the Civil, Naval and Military Services, delivered to His Highness the Nabob AZEEM Dow LAH, at Chepauk Palace, the ratified Treaty received from His Excellency the Most Noble the Governor-General in Council, for settling the Suc cession to the Soubandarry of Arcot, and for vest ing the entire Civil and Military Government of the Carnatic in the Honourable. Company. On the delivery of the Treaty to His Highness, Royal Sa lutes were fired from the Garrison of Fort Saint Gcorge, from the shipping in the Roads, and vollies of inusquetry by the Troops under arms. LONDON c Minted by BUCIIANAN NPIVIILLAN, (ot Bow l; Street, Coveilt-Carden); and Published by WILLiAm ARMIG J.R SCRIPPS, (of Horse. AL the soN.oFFmk, No. 112, Strand ; where Adwert;semrsts, Orders fur the Paper, Letters for the 4dstor, &C. ( post-pa i)er Cent. Con. 741 5 4! .; Ditto Scrip [77 Bank Long Ann. shut Ditto Short Ann. Ditto Scrip .ferry road, Westminster); (1)„ must be addressee. 0.. :s, and a raciEc system, w • excluo, a desire for War r -that there was no reason to despair of the resources of the Country. They did not leave the House because they despaired of the re sources of the Country, but because the measures they recommended were treated with indifference and neglect by the Rt. Hon. Gentleman and the majority who supported him. Since that period, 'circum stances had sometitirn called upon him to obtrude himself upon the attention of the House, when he had recommended those measures which he consi dered as beneficial to the Country; and if the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Purr,) looked back with satisfadion to the condud which he had pursued, he (Mr. GREY,) looked back also with satisfadion to the measures which he had recommended. The Right Honourable Gentleman, however, was not the only one who held those opinions —the Right Hon. Gentleman (the CHANCELLOR of the Ex_ CHEQUER) whose condud displayed a, striking contrast to that of his Predecessor, or which at least differed in many particulars, was not satisfied with expressing his satisfadion at the condud of his Predecessor, but he found the attack made by France against MOnarchy to have been fruitless, because the House had voted 900,0001. to pay the Debts of the Civil List. If the safety of Monarchy depended upon that House paying the Debts of the Crown, he thought the Right Hon. Gentleman need be under no apprehension about it. If the Right Hon. Gentleman thought this an ar. gument to prove that the safety of Monarchy was unendangered, he, need scarcely ever be in want of a similar argument, though he (Mr. GREY) con.. fe - ssed he could not view it in the same light. He was sorry he had taken up the time of the Com mittee, but he could not sit still and hear the at. ailments and assertions of th e Right Hon. Gentle r:, man (Mr. PITT) without combating those arguments and assertions, and stating his own opinions upon the subject. Mr. PITT rose to reply. He .did not mean to advert to the charges advanced against himself by the Hon. Gentleman. He only wished to call the attention of the House to one to pi c w hi c h h a d b een argued upon, the proposed alterations in the Sink ing Fund. It had been stated that these alterations, whether an improvement or not, were certainly an infringement of the plan he had formerly submitted to the House. For his own part, he never thought that plan so perfedt as not to be capable of being amended by the future wisdom of the House. But there was one principle laid down in that pl an which wa s e ssent i a l to it , and which could not be deviated from without destroying its intention; he meant the regulation that one per cent, should al ways be provided for the extinction of every new Loan. With regard to the alteration proposed, he could affirm that there was not one word in it incon sistent not only with the spirit but even 'with the letter of his plan. The former Bill made a constant provision of one per cent. to extinguish the Debt. The present Bill goes farther; it not only makes a provision,to pay off 96 million in forty-fi ve years , but such a pr ov i s i on as would pay off ISO millions in a shorter period than the one per cent. provided by the former Bill would pay off 96 millions. Mr. ;ONES observed, that whatever collusion might foram-fly-have been supposed to exist between the present and farmer Chancellor of the Exche quer, it .was now plain that their sentiments com pletely differed. With regard to the Income Tax, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had declared that it was always his intention to repeal it as soon as it could be done. It might be so, but the Pub lic heard nothing of this till the intention of peti tioning against it became general. He hoped these Petitions would still he brought forward, to prevent any future Minister from laying on such an inquisi torial Tax. [Here he was called to order]. Since the Minister was now compelled to abandon the In come Tax, he and every Englishman would ready to support any other burden rather such an odious one should be renewed. 'wer , hich should Mr. Alderman COMBE made some observations on the unfair advantage which was given to private Brewers by the proposed Duty on Beer. Mr. VANSITTART rose to shew that the abo lition of the Income Tax was attended by no breach of public faith. The Governor of the Bank of England had indeed been dirdted to pay the in. terest of 56 millions of the National Debt out of the produce of the Income Tax ; but this sum of 56 millions was not any peculiar divibion of the Na tional Debt, but only a part of the whole. It was therefore the National Creditors at large, and not any particular class of them, that had a right to make any complaint. Mr. Mll./NTY.4/UNG heard with sorrow an Hon. Gentleman mention the Income Tax as a pro per War Tax, an iron rod still suspended over our head s when occasion called for it. He hoped the Hon. Gentleman would altogether abandon a pro. jed so universally odious. Mr. ;ONES expressed the utmost abhorrence of the Income Tax, for which he said the twenty-four letters of the alphabet could not form an expression sufficient to brand it as it deserved. Mr. JONES desired to know from Mr. AD- D NG - ro Fr if there really was a large sum due by Government to the East India Company ? Mr. ADDINGTON replied, that the Accounts between Government and the East India Company were at present settling, but the balance had not yet been ascertained. The Resolutions were then put and agreed to. Mr. ROBSON wished to know if the Resolu. tions could be printed immediately ? The SPEAKER replied, that they could not be printed till first reported ; and that the common pradice of the House was to" have then, printed immediately afterwards for the satisladion of the Members. Mr. Ro BSON repeated his question. Mr. ADDINGTON said, that he was ashamed to add any thing to what had already fallen from the highest authority with regard' to the Laws of the House ; but the Hon. Gentleman must perceive that his Motion could neither be received in a Com.' mittee, nor in the House, till after the report was brought up. NAYAL NEWS. PORTSMOUTH, APRIL S• SAmn, this day His Majesty's Ships CEI I- ' t and Pa//a; to the Downs, to be paid off. Also sailed the Ambuscade and Carjsfort Frigaost on a Cruiz.e. His Majesty's Ship Stark, Capt. I'm-Loll i s ordered immediately for the West Indies. Arrived the Thomas and Ann, CURTIS, frog Lyme; and ihriz, HODOSON, from Sunderland. Arrived the Princess Royal, DONALLY, fra in Gibraltar, and is put under Quarantine. SHEERNESS, APRIL 5. THIS day arrived His Majesty's Ship of zEguns, Capt. ADAM IVIAcKvNzrE, an d Gale Sloop of War, C a p t . HAwKiNs, from the D owns ' . The ,F;rm . Gun-brig was this day paid off ilerC ' and her men discharged. Brig;anto DEAL, APRIL 5, 11 e i$ SArt,rp last ni g ht f or P ortsmout h, the '' ''effi Frigate, and La Sophie Sloop of War. ' A to the Arrived from Port smout h, and proceede d ' River, the Standard, of 74, and R u by, of 64. guns° ID Mrs. JORDAN app eare d l ast n i g ht at cu r& lane Theatre for the first time this season, In br Ccimtry Girl, and w as most f avoura bly received an elegant and overliowing audience. Last night a New Ballet, called The Br a %/ r : Mask, was bro ug h t out at C ovent G ar d en Th ear e ik and pretty well received. The House was ext reai te . t crowded. Our li m i ts w ill not perm i t us r° n into any account of 'this Piece, upon whic h h al lo; expenditure seems to hav e b een made—soi oc- t e a, we heartily wish t h e M anager may b e ,timbers Captain 8k0wN,,,, cL . Aid-de-Camp to Lord {roil) has safely arrived at'itkie Cape of Good Hopehv the the Mauritiu s , h av i ng b een carr i e d i n 'there Mi te; , French pris oners w h o rose on t h e crew o f t he I r ' r i, Captain BROW N arr i ve d at t h e C ape i n a n .1" ) can in January last, with 45 invalids. On Saturday last a M eet i ng was h e ld of t er ble men and Gentlemen, chiefly of persons erill )!° Y ecl aF the improvement o f the National Ag-ricultu re ' ho .. the house of Sir J OSEPH B ANKS, Bart• in c -° , l e square, when it w as reso l ve d, t h at a C o l o Ssal °E 3 I ) , in Bronze of the late Duke of BEDFORD, shoul d to crested in the centre of R usse ll -square ; an d th a .i es t give an opportunity to the whole People to 1 11 , ip their veneration for his m emor y, t h e sa id 134°- ra l ment should be ereSted by a voluntary and ge rJe subscription. „ Saturday last a stag was turned out beior' re 'it Majesty's Hounds on Iver Heath, from wh e % e d, bent its course to Ryslip, where being hard press o_ made a desperate attack on the horsemen, Par" - -f lady a Mr. W. of Uxbridge, butting the flanks. v ia his horse with a feroci never before witness ed any of th e s p ec i es , to th terror of the rider, wh ° o it chased f or near a m il e, affording great ar nuse ll/e to the speaators. Yesterday morning th e K eeper of New,gifaot; Market sei z ed t h e carcasses o f t h ree oxen, eXPa se i , it: sale a t t h e s h o p s o f two S a l esmen, an d w hich/ "" ° 6 l, their a pp earances , were suppose d to be PGisSdi They were conveyed to the IVlansion-hous e, i r o d. after an examination, were ordered b y the - ' - " son Mayor to be thrown into the Thames, no Per appearing to own them. re The Ticket No. 57, 520 , d rawn veste rdaY2 e ' Of of 5001 P ~ was sold a t t h e o ld esta bli s hed ,T i , - ' 5 0g- T. Btsx, No. 4 . C orn hill, an d N o. 9 . 1 -!" — both Cross, where No. 7812, and No. 39,4-7j: r e also Prizes of 5000 1. i n.t h e present Lottery, ",- t i kers sold, shared, and registered.—Undrawn d the and Shares are selling in great variety, an es Wheel is wonderfully r i c h, t h ere b e i ng three ` t - c of of 23,00 0 1., two P r i zts o f r 0,0001., one,fr'fi-nish zoool. &c. &c. a n d on l y e i g h t d ays CO t" - of the Lottery. _Ar°. ENGLISH STATE LOTTERY. TIL I R T.Y-F IR ST DA Y. - Th ---- C follo%Vill Numbers W ere araWn g Prizes. a No. 3 5 ,8 7 Pze 6 of co 42 01. of s al• s, 14,o N sz o ; 1537t,56 , 2 35 0, ,945, ri 27 7, ,618, Prize_5............0, qx B n ß cis s 2s. v. dls• F . 1 ::: (1 : ha C e . t 0. 6 Fundable ditto prem. 3d Exchequer Bills par New S. S. Stociv ()anum limper. 3 per Cent. 751 Ditto Ann. 13 1...16k !lank for opening India tbr opening zzi Consols for Account 74% SHIP NEWS. YARNIOWTH APR/L 4. a f r°lll v liar , . Arrived—the Diligence, Butcher and Astley, -,- gotta London; Adive, Coleman, and Znn, Garred, from - dam. - Chr is "; Sailed—the Leander, Youngman, for Elsineur ; f i c id, ' anus, Fountina, for Embden ; and Commerce, 1‘ 4311) London. GRAVESEND, APRIL 4. Passed by—the Sp r i g h t l y, B arton, an d Hercules , - " co ne; from the South Se as ; P egg i es, B acon, front Sierra. l ;, s ter•• Jane, Smith, from Bornhohn ; Venus, Jansen, from 'lzabetho dam; Henrietta Antoinetta, —, from Ostend ; Ell Oda , Visser, Lerwick, longe Johannes, Jacobs, Vrow Matilda, Defrieze, Jonge Elizabeth, „do. Friendship, Dirks, and Triumph, Arnold, from ltott e ` Sailed—the Broth ers , Linton, for Quebec ; Nelson , wo od, mon, and Betsey, Cains, fur St. Kites ; George, , 14 ,1abct 14 ibr Newfoundland; Ellis, —, for Petor.sburgh • ni ! , ing tont Brune, Ashton, Smith, and Robert and Martha,Le"'to CI" , for Rouen; dalacia ' , for Dublin; Vrow Margaretta, fur Dieppe; S"P` tarot' Jawless, for Havre. —, Ond Jong D lED Fr on. a ncis i . r, _ v On Thursday last, Francis Buller, eldest son of S Buller, Bart. of Lupt on -H ouse , i n th e County of ICI: 01 YESTE Rank Stock Navy i per Cent. to6l S 61- per Cent. 1797, shut Irish 5 per Cent. shut 4 per Cent. Con. shut per Cent. Red. shut