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II Or' , e 55/ t,* inie forward with accusations of ins Ile did not wonder at the in his Conduct from any thing he lava eter, but he wondered that stielh. lotddappear when his cause was set ttenlPt to,impute- inconsistency to . followed the plain course, and to. !ta at a time when they were in the e of a duty which the House them, this was not to arraign use itself of inconsistency. They ipon many occasions there was one on one side of the doors of that bother language held on the other Amid now ap:::eal to any man, whe ted a doubt on the mind of the most , that this motion was introduced of ob.:trip-611g the Bill. He would a the Hon. 113ronet to say, that he , , t see it in th a t light, and. if his less upon record, or if his under subject hail not been vindicated by ttions, he should suspect that he had 'to the motion. Did not the Hon. that they who cheered {tint while not indemnify themselves for that 4 breath by unrestrained laugh ; hac ; 4 Li ,tplate u the ~.i o nse—or. d id he `ollient the success of hi; motion irable triumph ? '1 he Hon. Bort.. Mrmation desired by his motion . be fure.ihe House could proceed to stage in the question. Of this op}- he said, for the last eigl:t years. was fully matured, nod did much trout which it sprung. The oh was to natke•a eitcuit of the er from every foreign power, nation, whatever information . the subject. He, called upon 15 e before they came to a final de • subieet ; to pause until they col ition. frtint Africa ; to pause until information from Canada, until Is ambassador had .inveigled foreign a eonfe:sion of all they knew ; to Ron. Baronet himself hademptied 41 OWII mind, and the, bursting coo- After all those recommendations, tic'n. Baronet had said upon the '''' - r all the tnatter to which his an::. ;Id. he still saw upon 'the order book, .Proposed to move for sundry other ras not altogether so deeply read in '4 , a. the Ulonourable Baronet ; 'hitt ore of one of that class, who 0 rote 1 ,14 the title Tractatus d Onn Re -1% pmtscript, et de 05usdam mils quinued tanhing). The House was u led huts - the id ea th at t h e contents fl all they had to travel tl • 1 noug a.— 5 ' t least through 120 volumes in fo'• 7 01 e ; u niI collect the necessary infor , "Ingle question He t o ok the Alok thron,o ' . 14t, s t 2‘ k ' „,, sorne of these volumes. 1 ". if th, v I , l "'s Works', eleven vo- Oeven vo i' t 'e ' 4l him, they 11111“ ,taro ‘ l '""nas A. 55 . 11 " L' ore, of COmmentary , F , ,Jicti s . fi ls ''''"'4 who w..s called the 17i of the t wo ' l e "IY wrote three voluoWs A trall,mi,ea, 4 tter ;t Was said ilairnam 14" ht 4.1 “" 1 64'1' ill I.llo Mani ; and he had that rai l "' s4le r it may ► !tot with justice be ~,iiiifizetiet(,3iilf,!latill!sinltt(lnti tiraltr(outni:lt3. AtBl'cii°nt.l7s 'had 4 ' l Ti„; " "cologi , Int, ~,,,. also to be read. ,),.,„ , Inas Aquinas the. A t 4 icielieug Ifi li b l t v : ) ,,rd i t" each other, I,t woether they., , o c or .. t, • .., , tooth and nail ; but 4r.iq than the were more - oppdsed to ; 4 Scot us vivo _ e HOn. Baronet- Was to WM 4, I ,ita , N i iti _ `e twelve volumes folio.-11e• Lc ' i :f),,,. mitu r ii to Bellartnio. This Gentleman . 4 1 " Nlith , es . in folio., It was upon him 1)i t r cruelly r .1' .. land *1 Dr Millner it, -! ev t „ tic , , t old the no before the Select Committee 14,11) 1 0 4 Y PosOily matte up their minds upon :1'4)4) ? `),(flat)teitce without reading the works of. 4 t'l ,t , this WAS to be read bathe they te t i ' tiepi . ' 't ° it ; 'ion, what an interMinable horizon ' 4 k - tlcti )t, ..491iCS to look to before the diflicul ,t,'reanoved which the Hon. Bart. partly t red ii ' H a lal partly from inspiration, bad tlis :l t o , eY shank!, in addition to all this, it t c t ! 4 .11(1 t '.(!4(l tb e TraCtailis TVactutq:um de Ec hlvir4 , f `' wait until they reviewed . the In , 1,4%,,, . all foreign countries, upon the sub. k l / 4; , 4 arntld never be aa end to the Itsi 7 t: N ll44 . 4. l ll d h liii ' last head 'of foreign .cOtiotrieti, 1 4t1 1 ,, I ne t . c , e glad .t o know what powers the- Nelttli it i (a !id have to force information from ''' , /i i t i4 t eq,,.. se '',i'bieet. They were besides to semi iq t ,liq tfl ' u isision for the purpose of I.iikiPg `tofit tii t l'e e4lonies, though they were now . .,,,, 4 t hci ned trom the Statute Book with what foZitit h h i l "ie in Canada. In the whole t.,1 - ' the 4,l*lii„edl'lronet!s speech, there was only one ,i l ' l "t, t i la d, the tippearance of argument, am! ' t Y, '''t if the Bill passed without farther `e%, slit L c , 4 4 4" ) 41, 4 " c i Nrayoe Of London . may be seen ilalli c , ' 4 with the mace, and all the par;:pner- Ptt t e before him • but if the Honourable tts,ll.,l4,)l'v':;lllilet,irn to ;be sth of Ge?rgt! . t y l , l i e s t,„,Cilly ke ' ' seo that any such occurrence 't .. 1 , - , 4 lai tt ` tt , vented. Tht:re was, indeed, iii his 1 s ta t 1 ''er argument ,ii great force, bt!t °pc tt .` TUN ( 11 i , tu t ,, I event way to what the Hon. ' Y t Y cif , '" l vci• The art , uitte»t was that' the -I ' tv. e4 " it s ' l' 1 1" E amid, 4,,- 4 a I t ) '-' was estakisaet, in ng ,' '• o ut it )4l is, the t n he established in Ireland.- 4aicat,„, first time suck inforthation was : ~ - s uo ., , ; and if 0 of the laws' was 1 4 1 , - , 1 as 00 , , t he st ate i the: triei r h `,"' Prevent those - establishments li t 41 4' f o t. ' 4 "ii., he could not see it stronger (i i , A'a vtl r the retuov,l of such feeble laws. 4ti r e mit t , ......., ~ 4 ., • Ml , b 4 000 4 _ I: "net- of argument that_ he cou ld 1 / 4 1 1 i 1 -o ;tr oott. nit the well. know n speech of the k _4i .5 : 1 1 tifi tti ,, ,As to the numbers - who had tit ltit " be eat! ( 1. a llegiance in England from a '..altitgainq t r., 'e body ( it was no more an ,argn -14:4 oul y .. t l h uli, than if it should be ,said dot v t i o t he o ut fi t (. 1 1 ' c '..'e Protestants in a .parislt had Ct li. e 4 .s, 1 allegiance, that parish should 0 , till wets n ti tt 'lacier military superintemlance. iikl:44,+ll, t (mi t , " t ; tn he- &int nesory on the Catho ,i t t b r ) i f t t , 1 4 , 7 t s : l i a tt r i l . the . oath ' impetytive on , . th . ! i N . IItt) ~ iillinon; When his iion. I , mil d Nt 14 ' ' uttd to t his . • ' • a. •.- t ►tyu, .. t t , c , ,i , , r motten,.he in effect vo 4 4 say itte 4l ,.. (lB . 4 itialifieati on of Cie Catholi cs; '"aIJ fOr letgio man tliiuk, that ;, ... , ,i, ! --,, now came 1(1 ~,,, td,,,,-,,ttle.c. lie d ,t,Jil ey of his '1'1.:11 ill; , if his eltaritetel ist, alit;',!ii" qqtacysliotild I,teti.r. . The attenti S otte IP Abo had folk , ~biee it to them at ; .. Iv discharge of ~, iktt- 0 , e(1 upon th Ity, t the House , faqir.. ,• twat upon i bite ,Xt" lield on on ,041 , I stikl allot het 010 44 he would t t 1 ,iii all'' POttx•i•ted a t! iiil I! 4 '' I Ntitleut, that ~ t i o 1 pittplse oF co „1 eOO j i m)ce to th e ~., CY' , did not See Lt N was les n kiiiio got' the subje hol.io; , ylathlioati ons i,,,,0," Ate.,e(l into tl it ,iNer it. Pt believe that it. Ilia te, (you'd nut i i 411; • 'rite loss (4 h t . , t'''' „ . „ .1 ill ' 4* ittltey h ai l . ti , , , that t o t h e ,ii, r(''' li , t a' desirable ~1,141;11 lthe teitlty, h e f ori ,t t(311, 11,11446 stiq;e toe„tlr ' 4 Ind been ,h t c 144 ,?:t, fault was 1 n y Or ILI: R4il fro loot . i : l 4 i ktii I.ll4tioil ' ill . 1 ) l '' t t 'ptilt ) ge? "ttli IVD"ttr.4 (Ton „et hi , (41 'e ; Pause lie Co.:: ' 4l) t!li G il the s u i t 1,1) tilOt . inflrt0:411 011. t tide/. ', qlettli info, 3 l oe, "4"xterous unit ey Ili", iii f 3 i nto a Cr)) :e ion :!‘i the Ron 4rt'snr Ills Ot t ' vc tioo. iofthe !,,,x. All r! , • ill' I l v, 1 the H on ~ellt", poll."' '2,, 4'111411.1i , 1 1 , J o i'. , J C. R. nr o f 1 rnc h 4 a • 1 ii..' }it.' tt'as 111 coal ' ,b9l(ogiiii-111 U t of . fb, t"liilltb (I 1 11111 of t at. • aring the ;A s 11/ t : 41) t I iis pn, , laird continw of ' ~7be deluded i 110 X. WIIS all ill, fq kali go at le ~ o- : , veiley cull suc h t l, for" a 1 that le to look a n • le was lit eY ,i '. Y. . ' „iili' 1 in folto. II •)teit-',, lit leaq. ~‘t+4 t W4S eleve TIPM IZ ) 1 i • the or Angelicus t ll l l - ''' • —l. i if the question were no wstiriz.d, he Woulastver dkaiu bare the same opportunity of.standing as it were ,upon a pinnacle-from wbence he 'could conimand A full view of the suffering's of his fellow-subjects. There was a tide in the affairs of men, upon the top of which they were now riding, and their object should'be to remove every thing that could endan ger their progress ; let then) hut once move back, and who knew what clouds may arise to obscure their passage ? who knew what causes of irrita tion may spring up to inflame on one side, and to in timidateon the other, men who were nowstretching out their bends to'each other ? 13ut the majority who voted for, the.Resoiutions last , year, and for the Committee in this, left no doubt on his mind that . the present motion would not he agreed to.-:;•—• When twoßight Honourable Gent lemen,(Sir Wil liam Scott and the Speaker) had given it rte their opinion thatthe law's against the Cetholics could not stand as they were, belied little en fear that twenty such motions as the present could prevent the Ca tholics front obtainiine their object: There ,were good reasons for preferring the way of proceeding by Bill, because in this question .the principle was all in all. A Noble Friend of his (Lord Liver pool) had said in another House—Let use see the principle once decided by Parliament, and I will tint he so shabby as quarrel with the detail. Let them. then decide Upon' the princiPle in that House and he had no denbt that it any person proposed ' an indefinite delay in the other, his ,Noble Friend would act tip to the principle he professed. He was one "of those who , thought the busineSs , should uot be precipitate:l; hat it was not on the second reading. when the Bill was to be perfected that the complaint of precipitancy should be made. If the•difticulties that attended the ques tion had vanished, they had vanished, not by the means of inquiries made in Africa or Anterica. They had vanished before the discus , .;ions of that Hoese.e, f ind the finding of a „para graph in , the corner of a t iewspaper'should not bring them back again. The House allow ed that the principle of the Bill was relief CO the Catholics from their disabilities ; and that re lief attended with certain qualifications. 2 His Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Grettan) and he•agreed in this general object ; bw he (Mr. Canning), from his ,knowledge of the public mind of this country, thought that more prevention was neces sary th`awhis Right Hoo:,Friend seemed to sup pose. He there‘fore proposed certain chases, with , a promise of support', if they were admitted into . the 8i11'... There were three points upon which they dwelt who opposed the Bill. .The first was the necessity ofeaseertaining the loyalty of the Roman Catholic Prelates. The second p'n yegdrded the See of Rome ; and the third was some se curity that the beneficence of the, Legislature sould not be thrown ewne, 'but met by a con ciliatory spirit .on the part Of the Catholies.--e On the first .point there was -a plan that had been much discussed, namely, the . Vetb.----Tk more he considered that lilan, the less he seas satisfied with it, not upon . Catholic, but upon Protestant groneds. Ao Estabislimentefor. the Catholic *Clergy was not now under consider:44M. Tito st, e of things which the Hon. Baronet seemed i...sirotti; to iotroduce would rte;o4nize all'l endow a Catholic Hierarchy. Th;s was not his 'object, nor the subject of the Bill. He, desired, therefore,, that,hia, chnoes may not be. viewed in reference to such: stn object. The Bill was for acle mitring the Catholics tO civil franchises, With9nt any reference to their Clergy. With respect to Bishops, testimony and not noinipation was what the Crown ought to require. The Fion• Ba ronet's sketch wasnoteapplicablete the. Bill, lie alluded to many points through which It was not his intention. now 'to 'follow hint. ,He steted, that some of the , Bishops nmy not be canonically elected, but what was it to them whether they were or not 1 - Whether they were elected by than anal Chapter, or by any other untie, what was that to the ilonsel - lf - , ti:cv were to inquire into this subject of canonical election, they.raust read the Mognuin Otateriani, ;Ind malty inure quarttis before they could come to a decision. .Testintony then being the only thing to . he &Mantled, where 'was it to be looked for,' but among those who were' most likely to know the character. of the candi dates for electimi ? He proposed doing this through the medium of the five senior Catholic Pecr, and he ditinot knoVe uponevliorn.he could better impose so far the duty of guarding the Constitution, tulip upon those who had been just admitted to the full enjoyment of it. The testimony of such. per suns would give more perfect assurance of the cha ; racter of A. Man, then Could be obtained from,auy Secretary. The Honourable Baronet said,• that in the gross ignorance . in-which they were e aud in which he (Mr, Canning) hoped, they would Continue, with respect to* the formi of election, a disloyal person may be made Bishop ; a charac ter which, athorg the Catholics, was indelible. Why then be would say, let that dieloval Bishop go to the country of his preference, he should not ,remain here. The second point upon, upon which the Hononeable Baronet clwet, was the necessity ,of contrinding the correspAdence with the l'ape. For this purpose be had a plan jn`his box, bet fortunately he did not produce it. 'lt was certainly je t st thaa jealousy should .b e eeteeteined ' of-.such a correspondence:--"-" There existed a law - since the ;time . of' Eliza; beth ' for the prevention , of . it, which made the receiving any hillis or ' interdicts in - this ' coun try high trelson. Notwithstanding - such tte law, bulls-of this kind were frequently reeeivede "Was this ehen a ground upon which the Bill w a s to be delayed, until the Honourable- Baronet lead returnees from his.. circuit of the 'globe ?--. He would go into the Committee not sit bi goted as to 'exclude all further security, ii'i t should be judgedneeessary to the State, hitt the law against the: Catholics should he no longer allows .ed to slumber in obsolete black letter. (Here i)s - . Thiigennn rose, bat sat down- ogaih amidst cries of Ordep . 1 ) He would now come to the third point. ft Was said that the Catholics Would take edvatitage of . their concessions, but ma,ketione .theteselves. The i cushion of the C —at Acmes "co u ld not he eollected until afier the enactMent. -For this third point, he would endeavour toproyhle iu this manner— that the live Lay Commisiioners should meet at a - agility g ive n nte iont'lete'ritfpteelt.viiislit),:'S'illt7r'trthol f t . i t tit h e e e b i ' l l 'e i te't ami d tha t time tjie Commission began to act , . ;1,, e el) , all the ccattnuuicatitn4 4e 404 - remind, hang TritSOn fbi t Uneving otnem ise than that upon 0113 polta they would meet with t eheetful acquiescence on the part_of the .Catholies of this country, and he believed they were of the same mind in Ireland. lie did not know ivliether a turbnient spirit itrly not arint to disturb the intentions of tilt; Legisla- titre - in that country; hut train : 43.3:ery thing he heard, there:, ivas no ground forsnoli Sion. At all eve - nts, if the theature'wa he de- seated,. it should be in the face of dav:--(11rior, hear..) It 'should not be involved ht t:lnit Mist of obscurity, which,:as the Poet said, Was better than night for such as had ill deig - ns. He should sorry to leave et.e House with the consciousness of having defeated such a question by fraud. If he thought that the Constitution could not stand without these -la w:;, he woald cOine boldly' forth With that opinion, and utter it. He would now , conjure them to consider that the peace and seen, city of the Eanpire depended upon ate 1 0:11.. 'No than admired more than he did those gre4t theolo:- gidal authorities with which the Finn. liariniet hail animated • his mind ; hut he lot Aid at the details ()t the que,tion .v.hen otil•:.vi were taking—a.larger view." This Was not the titre for such inkrgscopie observations. 'file 'lion; Baronet, like anotheP Coriolanns, seemed, from some disgust, to have resolved on making'his importance felt, by throw ing all his weight on the sine of the enemy but he hoped he w:)al f now , quit the Vol,:cian ranks, . and tetura,tp his friends. (Loud cheering.) ' Mr. BATtiwtsT contended, that all that part of the speech of die Paght flon.Geritletaan,, whirl) . . . related to the detail. of the Bill for the:Relief of the Catholics WaS foreign to the business now be forethe 1 Luise. This was not the .time at which such motion could„ with propriety, be brought forward; nor,even had, the second reading of the Bill occupied the House this night, would the proper stage have arrived for submitting to their considerathin that 'which the Right lion. Gentle Man had taken this opportunity of introducing into his speech. ,The Right Hon. Gentleman has called upon them not to attempt to twin a frandit lent triumph over the Bill now in the House. Ile would like to know what possible inducement any one could haVe to resist in that manner which had been thus characterised ? What was there to . hinder ;any Gentleman front originating, on the second reading of theßill, a. motion which wonld cause all, and More than all, the delay which could be occasioned by the present motion ? It w`;is clear there could be no advantage, but on the (:(m -trary a great disadvantge in taking up the question before the House with this view. lie hoped that Gentlemen VlClllid not thinkthe present Motion was supported because the . Bill wits not approved, TO assume this' betause the Bill might be indirectly oppoSeal by the Support given Iti the present • motion was unfair, as the Owe Was not yet ar rived when distinct opposition could he oileved. The House had in the :is Session resolved to iii- quire into the laws'affeeting the Roman Catholics. When thatpropo - Ation was brought' forward', what - could be more natural than for those %On) were of opinion no benefit could result (ruin such an in quiry, to oppose going intO a 'Cominittee on .he subject) It bad been the system of Parlitunnt not to enterinto.a COturnittee on petitions presented, • but in oases where it appeared Lkely,the wishes of the petitioners could :be complied with, Those', then, ivbo saw nu probability of this.,_ might rea sonahly oppose the motion ; The state of things, it Was true, W;ig now changed: The Committee had sat, andd-a Bill had been brought in, fotinded on their resolutions. : If, howeree, the House bad thought proper to enter taut the question, he could see ,no inconsistency 'in the proposition of the Hon.- Baronet to institute an inquiry into all the cireimistances of the- case. This the Right lion. Gentleman had-himself wished tor before, nut now the House was told,' that a Bill having been broti!.i;ht in., there was no occasion foci' irt inquiry. The farce of this reasoning he did not feel, amid the objections of -the Right lion. Gentleman to the nresent motion fell to the Proimd. ' The Right , - Hon.`Gentletini; had SpOken as if those who had permitted 'the Bill to be brought . iii,' were hound to :support it through all its stages i, this he de nied. . Those who were - anxious, as all must be, to relieve the Catholics, if they saw this could' not he done by the' BAI . brought irt„ -without endan gering- the Constitution, had, notWithstanditig, a . right to oppose , it ; nay, it wits their duty tie, do so. That which bad been said of the volutninoms inquiry in which the pr6ent.motion would epga g e them, with whatever hum our it Ina been urged, was entitled to little attention,' Os there was no probability of theinvestigation- being such ashad been described. 'With respect to. the Bill itself, he thought the securities which it contained. did , not deserve that name. If it had been aft:iitted by the most strenuous advocates for the Catholics, that smne securities were necessary to 'the 'safety • of the Protestant Establishineut, he would ask, was fo..eign influence nothing. ? Surely this would' not be' asserted ; and if foreign inthicuce weie not bell as ,nothing, ought they not to inquire what their ancestors haft done to guard against its ,in fluent-e, There . was no intention. of sending (cts had been stilted by the Right Hon. Gentlenian who had first invented the fact, and then turned it to ridienle,) Atubassathirs to Ametica orto Ritssia, toconduct the inquiry called for, .nor had an itlea 'lien entertained of calling tio2. Learned Doctors who Lad been mentioned to th e n ) : 'All that was calledl for was - eviplence, so :tuthenticatc:l as fci.r mer documents ha I been, when produced, in cases i l lo - le ni ,. , tlLe e n nt ri c o i t i 'i l t it !e il d ol ‘ l v t b il i e t s i l t b id . f' s i ( t ' l l i r e t ti l f . l l . l ( ' :l tit similar. the l - , igit ject of the 3emuits, and various other parts of his speech, * which lid contended bad nothine;,to do With the question before the Houße, 'lhe time wits not . yet . come for opposing the clauseh - of the Right• Hon. Gentleman. 'Mit lilac Would Cottle. For thepresent, he should sit down giving his hearty coneurrence to the motion. Lord DYSMIT WAS Of :opinion, that before they took Upon themselves to legislate in aca of to much importance, the-most' liberal titi.l "'"sive inTiirics ought to be made ; he' therefore sup poll eft the motion. , horil CASTLERItAnii assured the I-louse, ht: not riKe for the -purpose of enteriog into any ge neral discussion of the mei:43 , ot the. Bill now in the House. Another. opportunity Would okr far gall% iota that subject, anti he should reserve what lie lod to say till tliat Qpitortitaity arrived, ti,t , rim ceftFillitt V;, a not 811 dot lit'i,dold,Wloi3 but wlittteree _objections Ite toight pit 07, - ..soitt etiA tertaiti to :►:ty p:trt .of it., he hopt:tt tions Would ultimately tye veinoveil. lie hoped it would finally, he so 5 huitol that h , coCtl g :it his support: At present , ,,liexottlii hot 6 . 0 augur favourably of,- the prospe4 before them, from the spirit-of conOliation the pat lof the Catholics. In his opinion, it NvOnit? dis-= graceful to the pi ote: , tents to Offer terms 'Which it was known the' Ce.tholks could not ace . ert. it was their zloty to call on the Cathoßes to concedd nothing_ which it was not knowii 'their religion would • autboi Though be, on , th - e second reading tji thv Bill, should ,support t!le measurd geuerally, Ile should he airtiotis to submit it is idttx3 4)11 various parts of it to the 144,u:;e i fitlft it was his hope that-theise ivho brought rot, tvired, ‘vould ate.:)(. 4 , to •ht offer, am! !Mtn an opportuni7 rutingr•ftit a tocasun.!,' hf._- thought, us he stutect 011 a fortor otCasitni, much `,kettee_ their hands than •in it appeared pr. , !l:ll:tbh.t f l oat the triorjoa of Bli'oiset %could gi him or the- ,ilonse inf,niiution, W hich at prt , ,,,:at they wanted, ho\le've;' he might regret Out the motion lota no,t 'won bron,ght forward earlier in the sessioti, g'i‘e it his snppnrt. But • whca he refiee7 - ed ii a 1111 those great principles whiol ought to legislate weye aircatlY t ,re the 1-10n...5,e, or the means of collecting what Might' be Waliting 'IVVre, SO 01)1'1i;i'iS;- he could not but think the appointment of - a Con),I! it - tee would occasion unnettAsury deiny:, W . lls Oar.. ticularly against any delay Widen - might pr , veot Parliament's explai;.,;ing itt:Of to the tWo;-oli tries in the cours , e Of the' present . lie hoped the complete ttuitin of the' Catiiol:les and R-4:ints:trould'not be onneces-!r;ly itcietred. To him it would appear it great ty if separated without giving the country that e.pla-' LIM if)i) of ‘vbieti he l'.ad spiik*L'o. - ilLfcodett, his flight Lion. Eri,i N ids near him. • Howevcr he might differ from . them on this subject, he ,t dl thought their comhiet perfe'etly consistent, foti though they might be of 04)inion that no sticuri ties Could be given by the Catholics which ought to be satisfiviory to the ,Ploiesta: ts,'it by no means followed, that when in this they bad been ov '.i.ruled by the House, they should not be dis posed: to inquire into the securities which might be ai:Corded, in order to decide which was least objectionable. DJay in explaining what were the views of Parliament, might be thotillit. inju rious and misellievaus:in a great 'degree. ,un willing that it should,F•tand lief..veen them and the country, he therefore hoped that if the informa tion called fin 'vas not absolutely necessary, it wotild'not he gratiied, us he feared it • contd not be procured hi time to enable Parliament to give the expkwition he desired in the course of the present zi;ession. t He remairied, as he had ever been, opposed to those who asserted •Catholic ettuineipotion be a question of sight. He cOoteoiled the Cato:ie religion, and more ,cspe . chilly the Ecciestr.•:::.tical part of it under the See orßonie, had ever been subjeat to arrangement, both in Catholic and in Protestant to.intries. This broad proposition, he thought, was suill ciently;establisbed, and therefore to gO into. a Committee to inquire into this fundamen'al truth,' would be to lime time.. As Secretary of :fit ite for the Colonial p ! ..p.,lxtitient, lie himself bad had to take the pleasure of his Majesty on the appoint 7 'tient of t Roman Catholic Bishop to go to Altilt3, Who having been nominated. by,the Crown, re-' ceived affei.wards bit canonical in:inetion from. the, See of Rome.. 'fits grand ,priaciple, it, roust Olen ' Ibe act; nowledged, WitS soak:evilly estabk bed ; Paha to ''go into• a Committee Was unnet„.es:ary, though he thotight no time tould be wast,..! which ivas fairly applied tOthe considor , ition of „is im pnrtant subject. If the Catholics went on with the Protestants as he hailhopes they would do, if they went on with the legislature,, content..to bow to the deei , .,ion of 'Parliament, he thought: the present the most ,ansph.:.ious period the •British . euiptre had seen ;ince the ilekolutiOn.. He should be glad to see Ow loan who could Prove Opt Par liament or any Member, of it was actuated, in. ta voueingthe wi,h_.s of the Catholics, by any other titan a 41irit of conciliation, which, he, thought, Must produce .a etirresponding temper Ott the pilrt of, the C,,tholics. We were-tint: at pre-cent arrtrici u a Frenell invataion ; stood in, awo of no power iii Europe ; hut, on the coa... nary, England stool on a pinnacle of greatness aud glory, higher'p-erinips thao ever she had, stood before, and therjore this was the proper time for a spi rit of colviii,ition to manifest itself. lie con‘lilded, repeating that it was hiS hope the Bill would he so framed as to en able him to give it his cordial support. • •! stated, that'he had only pointed out what to him appeared the preferable mode of exerei,ing as right, und added, that he - :was as tit mly'tic termined as:the Noble Lord himself eould be, if the hotin proffered by PadiaMent were ton ttirmiciouAy, refused, to take his Stand against the Catliolies-, the line as if he 'had never stood for ward their Sir J. C. HIPPISLEY replird at some lentr,th, anti stated the Ili;tht Hon. Gontleman (Mr. Canning) to have he&l well aware iyf the object of the Com mittee, •ancl to hall' promised to support bit nio+ tb if he abandoned his tletign of 'moving it (01 the lwes.ent occasion, wad- bronght' it forward at some othc•.; opportunity. The IJoim 0:4. motion ..... . . .... t.h, Int ite,...tlilmetit .-Iss ftvinw “ftiiv While Vl'ete WI c:r 1)il! s Of Ott.- ilty, for the bv7on(t veadln O w (2;4114011c Itelirt I.lal, It r‘.. 01dc1ed, th ~t 1 the rzeCO244l (41 the 13111 81iuttitt stand f()r 4 11;..1 idny. Aijournett stt 11:1111r...1:j I WI) CC: niornin, • pgr Cetr:, rr et:A. ';`.;,`, 3 pr r i a !ftt • cvat, Bank I-. Ann. India StoeN,, 167 i l ei VEST Elti).A.Y. in•110..1;011as, Is. Old :Lois. ,Nov, iixelwrvr Clay, /ler tent. • etnic for May 6Pill 111611, WATEit LONflt Mg:1.111; ► 7 11214.,:ti,;$ aster is BRIDGE Eveniug, 33 wintaui idter