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• trary. It w4s found to czantein hooks curitheal with the notes of Nfr. Han:rave, together with about Sth) volume , Of manuscripts. The Committee were of opinion, that the parehis‘e,Tor. it would be a g - -. Tat Imblic bene fi t. : qr. Whit bread tlrep spoke in high terms of the talents, industry, and general character of Mr. Hargrave, and moved, as the Coln ',mitt re t. Supply was now, closed, " that an Address be pre tented to his 'Loyal Highness the Priateeltegent, praying, -that he,would he graciously pleased to direct, that sOOOl. he issued from the Civil List Revenue for the purchase of Mr. Hargrave's •hoOks,for the public nse, and that the House of matt ;cod the Saillt.", - Mr. Rose hove te,tiasony to, the merits of Mr. Hargrave. 'lase .Address was then agreed to. The IristiSessions House 1111 , *as read a keeoiol time and fa); to-morroWa air was - also th'e Spirit I.iceni , s 13111. third reading of , the Irish Disti l lery Amendment Bill -wits piOpotied until to-morrow. Resolutions of the CoMmittea on the Silk Act Were ggrt.cal to - , and a Bill ordered to he brought in ;accordingly. The Irl,ll ingar 13111 w. ordered, t.t.l he read a third time to-morrow. : • The House will, if n'ltiOnday resolve itself into a Committee on the stores Hinhez7:einetit Bill. , The Relief Bill' was read a second time, and com fla tten for to-morro•v. ' . • • nil?' cam tulie Bill was read a second time, and corn- Witted for to-morrow. The Bilkers Bill was read a third time, and passed. INDIA COMPANY'S DILL. Lord CASTLEEkAGH rose to "move the Order of theAluy for taking into further consideratimt the Report of the . Vast India Corn2any's Bill. Ile hoped that , Qentlenten‘ would have no objection in the Committee to confine the discussion tti the atlases actually under consiiteration, and not tra velfrom theM into thegenerdl principleof the Bill. Mr. Trim= objected'to. the method of pre- Votiny; Gentlemen from dlsOussing in the Com 7 min tee the general principle., Lord CASTLEREAGH 'said, that it had been fully discussed before. MdCrillall ATKINS expressed a wish to pro ceed with his motion respecting American Cot ton, unless it was the intention of Ministers to impose a duty on it. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEUUEK thought it was too late in the Session to pass so important ta measure. Mr. Alderman ATKINS wished to know if M 414ters were disposed to bring in a short Bill to repeal the 43d of his Majesty ? . The. Cusieczei,oa. of the EXCIIKQUER did not phink the present a fit time. It was better, in his opinion, to wait the effect of - a blockade. Mr. MAX,RYAT•—." As to the efficacy of the bloeltede" . The SesAer.a—" Whether the blockade prove efficacious or not, it has no bearing upon the questioe tioW ueforirdel : Pia - 1V" Mr, Develleoar rose-to spek on the. American Cotton,— The 5P8AKE1t......." The House, Sir, teem to be of opinion, that the Cattou question has nothing ,zo do with the present." • The Order of the Day was then read, and the :it veent into a Committee on the;Bill. The . first Clause was read and agreed to. Meitaife wsq brought fraru the Lords, agreeing to some Public Dills, fur which see Lords. • The. House again went into a Committee on the East India Company's Bill.—On the second clause being read, Mr. Ce'sreisio said, it bail been always contend e4 by the Friends of the Company, that there could be no open trade to India without danger to their political power. It could not be con • tended; that the opening the trade.tO Chins could affect their political :power in the swine way. If, indeed-, it Was true, that tliChiba trade W . as ne cessary to the support of that poiver, and that heir Government could not he carried on without if, he was at opinion, that in the event of taking that trade horn them, they should be supplied from the funds of this country, with the necessary mealis of upholding their. government. would coetend, howeVer, that the revenues arising from 'lithe alone Were sufficient for that -purpose. It • *as true that the trade to China could not be per fectly open from the nature of the Chinese Go vernment, but it should be rendered cis open as passible. The Americans were a proof that a trade to China cotild be carried on without an ex elusive Company, and he saw nothing in the cha racter of an American that fitted him better for this trade than it British merchant. .He would he content with a limitation of ten years, and would therefore propose, as all Amendment, that ten yeers ,be substituted. Lord Ci!STLXIMAGIf said, that nothing had been stated to induce him to change his Opinion as to the time: mentioned in the clauses. If the system on which the Ctimpaily traded, with China had tint been established, he was confident that .the Amerienn intercourse with that country might lave led to no favourable coOsequences. He did not despair that another system ma/ be devised, hut the present should not be changed, except 'tram grounds of urgent eecessity. It would not he a well advised measure to provide for the dill - culties the Company may incur by the loss of that trade, by having recourse to the revenues of this country. My.Plitturs spokein favintrof the amendment. Mr, Memo • thought, that the :trade to China ~.*oold be carried on hatter by a monopoly than in any other way. •The Americans traded there to a great disadvantage. They had cargoes of tea in various ports of the North etZi A rope i , ; which th e y. "ikolilif Willingly sell to disadvantage. FINLAV spoke in favour of the amendment. Mr. Tnostsos said it would appeer, Irmo what . was said respecting China, as if the Emperor of that country was, as immutable as the ,Illindoos,„-- The private trader could carry on the trade to China much cheaper than the Company. The Parliament should not, in his . opinion, entirely exclude themselves from all interference upon , this subjectlor so long a space as twenty years. Mr. MeletiveT thought it highly improvident to g mut the exclusive trade to China for the period mcationed in the Bill. After a few words from Mr. Forbes and Mr. R. *Thornton, • .M) • CANNING sail(, all that the British Mer chants wanted was to he place • evlhicih tecy aught jelt ‘ a situation In The House then divided ns. Far itic it Majovit r On our- return to the y - 10 1 0 0 d M e Pit 1 Yti legs, contending on the secon d c inse,, that- advantuge would ensue to India, were the Company divested of its Commercial Charte r altogether ; and to utiord an opportunity- for this, moved, that the dttteoi the Charter should lie mited for tell years. lie WaS= atweered by the of EaCIIIICIUEV., that the effect of, thi, Amendwent was- the same as that v.hich had just been ilk posed of. After some conversation, in tv111:Al Mr. Y. Carew,Mr.Fort;e3, the Chancellor of tlle Exchequer, Mr. Esdaile, Mr. Grant, and Mr. W. Smith, the gallery was al;ain cluared ; aud, on a divibion, the utunLe.rs were— 'For the nrigiaal Clause Against it . Kijority against Mr. Kitlips's .. —4l On our re-admission; .Iklr. C4lSNrta.; ‘r:ts stating, that "if some provision for the Lascars was not made in the ComMittee „Ilk would move an Amend- Ment to that effect on the Report... • Lord CasTLEßEA r tni' said, that it was • too late in this Session, to bring•in • a till which was in contemplation with regard to the shipping, and that when this was hruoght in nett Session, the object of the Honourable - Gentleman might be better attained. This arrangement vow acqui- esced in. Upon the Clause for vesting the power to grant Licenses itt the Board. of Commit), it was ob jected to as implying a di , itrusttif the Directors of the Company, in whom that•poWer has here tofore resided. Tiis Lord Castlereagh and others denied, and explained, that t h e a!teratinn was re sorted to in order to leave Ore halance . of interests between the Company and the Private Trade in n entral hands. In the clause relating to . the tonnage of ships, , Mr. Thomson moved of limit the same to 2:50 in . - stead of s3;io tons, so that smaller vessels than ori ginally intended might be permitted to miter upon ' the Indian trade. .1 Lord CssmnitisaGo complimenu te in the hand soniest man the disposition to accommodate all ; interests evinced by this out-ports, and 'augured niost happily from it the. : system that was . about' to be established. On the suggestion of-Mr. Fr xtsy . , the Amend ment was changed to three huntlred tons, but I withdrawn on Lord Castlereagh's saying he would oppose it as injurious to the Revenue, and ,the original clause agreed to. Lord CASTLEBEAGH proposed to leave out the clause prohibiting the importation of saltpetre ; by private merchants. Ile Observed, it had ikeen thought necessary to give the Company a mono- • poly in . this respect, as, Governswititiol Contract- ed With them for a regular supply. He: proposed to pass over the clause for the present, intending to propose to introduce on the Report such regu lations as it has appeared to him would be neces sary. These would t.tO to leave the impoitaticm of it tree, .but to subject it to certain arrangements on its arrival in this country.. Mr. It. THORNTON did not object to the post ponement ot. the regulations . proposed, but took this opportunity of observing, the Company had entered into a most liberal contract for furnishing a supply of saltpetre. • The Clause was then passed over.- Some discussion 'took. place oil the Clouse re specting the importation of goods in tudia-built strips. The object of this Clause was stated to be, to continue things in their present train for a year, and in the next Session of Parliaineot to take the subject into farther cOnsideratiatt. On the Clause for giving fiteilielr tr Omar s is posed to attempt the moral and religious improve ment of the natives, being read, Lord CASTLEREAGH said, if It were intended to discuss the question further, he conceived it might be better to take timat , disettssion in nit ulterior stage of the' Bill, than to interrupt its progress through the Committee. Mr. FORBES could not let the clause pass with out entering his . solemopi oust against it. Sir T. Strisrosr objected to the preamble of the clause as unnecessary and dangerous. lie thought it likely to alarm the natives, • and to make those who were all submission, in other respects; rise iu opposition tt) British influence. lie therefore moved that the preamble of the Clause should be omitted ; and that.the Clause should be So alter ed as to appear to have nothing to do with religion; and only to admit pet sons for lawful pur poses into 10(1111. Lord CASTLEREAGH defended f-the preamble. Geutlemen Were so anxious not to do any thing that Wright, alarm the natives of India, 4 hey ought to remember, that there wore minds on this side of the water to be satisfied. Confiding in the prudence of the Board of Coutroul, not to ad mit into India prrsous who would be dangerous in any respect, be thought there was no reason to view the clause as it stood with alarm, and in• treated the Committee to let the preamble stand, as to him it appeared necessary to the tranquility of the people of , this country, as well as to that of the people,of India. Mr. Maßso most strongly objected to the clause altogether. The mere aprehensum or attempt to intro duce the Christian religion, had •eaused' that carnage at Vet lore on which he could not reflect, without trembling, and he thought it, would be the consummation of madness and folly to do any thing that might by possibility give rise to a similar disturbance. tie was anxious, as every man must be, to comunmunieate the natives of India the blessings of the Christian religion; hut fropi thesreatikarti. Making the attemptlag sty they might eon elude, that it was not the will Of ..Providence that, it should be ettected at this time. The conduct of the Mitsionaries had already exeited.yousiderable alarm. The principle on which he rested himself in proving the danger to the elistence of the British G.tvmolonent in India which would ensue from a. perseverance in the system of conversion by means of Mis sionaries was this, that the more irritable feelings of time na tives would be Milan - it'd by any attempt at the subversion of those religious tenets to which they wet e so strongly attached : such an attempt would, therefore, he considered as au into lerable, hardship, and, British politics would come to be corn blued with British religion, so that theY wcald'sliake off the one tolet quit of other. Ur. WILBERFORCE said that those who espoused that cause which had been so handsomely oppoied by the last speaker, did nut act on slight assertion or vague speculation, unsupported by substantial evidence. They ventenLed that the conversion of the :satires of India to (liristianity was not impratticable, and if they were-asked on what ground they supported themselves, when they asserted this practicability, the answer was, because there were hundreds ut thousands of native tncliatis who were already Christians, and because the efforts of the missionaries had been eminently successful.— They stood upon sure grounds, and because the ssperimentaf co nversion bait best: already. successfttls-tbey wishedthat there might be an opportunity given for its repetition, and with such a controverting power might he sufficient to prevent those abuses winch certainly might occur. He maintained that the murals of the llnidoos were cor. rola and ,kh,ased beyond measure, and to support his assertion, .cited the authority of Mr. Colebrook mid Mr. Patter son, Supreme Judge a:Bengali the latter of Whom stated, that the .lower class of the natives " bad all the vices of sa vages without any of their virtues:'-4'h a mural Isssuaissrblett LONDON, FRIDdY, JULY Q., 1813. This morning, by a Heligoland Mail to the 28th, We have received Haniburgh Papers to the 24th ult. which communicate the very important fact, that the Svredes and the force under Gen. MODEN, are not included in the Artaistim; - and that in consequence of their being within twelve miles of flambtirgh, that city was on the 20th declared to be in a state of siege. The French are throw.: 'lag up fortifications and strengthening the place; but with the spirit of thipenple . Within die - walls,' and the valour of the assailants without, (should an attack he made) we doubt not but that they would soon be compelled to relinquish their prey. While they remain, however, they seem determined to pour out . the full measure of their vengeance on the ilefeneeless InhabitantS. Below will be found a correct list of the hostage victims, and a decree has been promulgated, recalling ail those citizens who hart, Red from Gallic tyranny by the 10th of the present month, under pain of con- filcation'of their property. Like the Executioner in Measure for Measure, DAVOUST may call— " lIMINIARDINE! BARNARI)INE: come lind be banged"— but the patriots of Hambtirgh arc. too well ac gitttinted with the ronicofities of these rtifffans to commit their4lives to the same • hand's - kvhich ut all events, take especial 'care of the disposal of their goods and chattels. We do hope .most fern vently that the spoil may be torn from their grd . dsp, and all their diabolical schemes of oppression in this quarter frustrated. A new Governor, Fr.o , ;(.;RNDORPF, leas been ap pointed. Is it because lie is more sanguinary dial DAVOUST The following are the contents of the Mail :--- " wooLANn, SUNG 28.--Ar Proclamation has been issited in liamburgh, by which all the 'citi zens who had left that city or Lubec, are de,ired to return before the 10th of next mouth, under pain of confiscation of all their property. " On the 20th, Hambur , ,b was declared in a state of siege strong 'fortifications' arc every where thrown up round that city. The Swedes and WALNIODEN'S corps are not included in the Arini- stice ; .they are only about . 12 milet iliitaur from Ilambitrgh. The following are the names of the Gentlemen sent as hostages from fiamhurgh George WQrtinann, N. D. lirn;tr, L. E. Sayler, partner of Ges- N. W. 1101111. nm, stet, C. D. Beueeke, II i,sseher., Ilertz, partner of Ileikscher, Ackermann, C'. F. L. G. Vol ]keen, M. Voil Ileinettgen, Rumabr, I. P. fichnity, -*" I:. J. Weillaeb, J. I. Peterson, B. and H. Roo3en, Ours.. re- Von IL4llle, D. M. Ileitz, j.-(;; striut J. I. '.!,eitultit, N. 11."Eybe, Sen. 'D. P. Preile, Frienz Doorman, Usy, L. Wes; phalen, Dr. Fischer, banker, Meyer, his Sun, in lieu, " HAMUURGII i . JUNE 22.---llis Majesty the Tlm perm. `and King, by a decree dated Dresden, June 18, appointed General Count FLOGGCNI)ORF, one of his Aides-de-camp, Governor of this city. The General arrived here to-day to take possession of his command. presented by their Clerk S. E. Diibeinn, liergemein. BRUNIMICK, JUNE I:l.—Yesterday we had the satisfaction to ice his Majesty our King ar- rive here." We have been favoured with the perusal of a document, purporting to be (ns we believe it is) the substance of the speech of Mr. MADISON, on opening Congrns, it is a more violent ebullition of Part:, fury than has 'yet dig raced the A'r can Legislature. It dares to desi:;t:ate k' e t r noble. Britain as a common robb er, and ou Tars as Buccaneers and Pirates.—lt Iv" particular rage on our alliances with the lit lliatt tribes, and bestows the most opprobricho epithets on those men who' arc fighting for their homes and altars. On thb other hand , it at;sarnes that the Government of INlADtsoti (the puPPe t Bun/car:um) has evinced every dispmition wards Peace, and instances the mission of • LATH &c. as a proof - ;f of this. In the view ! recent events connected with the war, it is 100 and vainglorious . .. 'llll the authentic Document is before us , shall abstain from expressing. the indigna.tinr. feel on this subject. Should it resembletiiis ov. line, no terms of reprobation too strong co 11 ' ; applied to it, or the demagogue Government 11, whom it has been promulguted ; and Britain ' - that her only hope of peace with America t!irow the scabbard from the sword ofjoitice. • During the discussions upon the abolic4 1 3 ; 4 ! C the only plausible argument used by its ailv°ce , was, that. it was calculated 'to conciliate oie tholicks of Ireland. We contended at the tau that the Bill, while it violated the fund . "' principles of the British Constitution, w"aid satisfy the Cutbacks, and all thcsubsequeat ceedings of the Catholick Board of Dublin d, confirmed our opinion. At a meeting o f th3tDo v on Saturday last, Mr. O'CONit.r., Air , CI . TIGAN, Major B A YAN, and some more of ate lclr lug demagogues of• that self-elected asseniblY, dared, that Mr. GRATT AN , the old ofutl INer6cvejiir ing advacate of the Boman Catliotick Ch fuse,."' e_" or forfeited their confidence, and sh ould not permitted to' present their Petition to io rl So much fur Catholitli anti"" gratitude ! have inserted to l t l t T e e l,e, i r mve been compelled for the litst lw( ) ' 146 t r i t ' e e d o o h n se ti r t b e .a s ti t i t 3 b l ;:ct it ot % ti 7eUrrt,tiNnotecutei.tl9l:: and now .-1 lic mind, that ire feel tii.it we c annot Jo hcli g( than abricolg—elet:iet(t)niicicosiins cidc'ell•aPbvlys°fr:iiiici t h l 01:i fire ::: 4 : 1111l:-1 state. I'Ve cannot but feel 'gratified at fouling th3t Ole almost unanimous vntee of Parli•itent has confirmed the vroc , of this matter, niiich we t teerl to soh , ed it our duty , in tlit: first ilx•stanc ,4, RILL We claim, : a / r , ! ,,:t ./..,,r 'licit StIV, lAbi3. • f Coil . " the course of the debate in. the noose o , l i ntlon f rom t h e eeastire. :too generally attaehett gums, to those, .Tournalislchit:har4 I,oL'w" t,; port the political principles of thOlinistersaos 4,1' ri (happily for the country) at • the. head of 0. ,4 ' and to protest ag ainst raging inc le ng liidcti a n; 00.. e, ti u) . 4 :ve;• tvho advocated the forniation of t i i cse t/' To the e xcellent intention with which they 0' instituted, have iited. we have ever could upeacquiesce iii the jUdginent ~riair done Justice-- l'ecessary or expedient.:t the same time, .wd c' tiro, help 110tiCITrg the fire .and fury %%id) whi cb , ..s?v like this been attacked by the factious aad part)" i The Moment an association Was t ort Ctt:ithglmoelniasliit‘sttt)itt-tert.eneioottittizi.:ll-ittilleuettuillift.l%,:7:isli:eocvlll:,ry%lvll3l:i otritt:el.'.3ll:it;sirtio:lti'i.icz'lltc:ilteit'lnl;l'-‘(;1::11 1 b and all tlit dolifVgt" t bit ,`c crac,. were in arms, and. railing. nia' ,c 661 'or' p . pr l it;c e il s il a c y , , ib:tuttt d:lev.:llistillitt:c its Par -i licatio you Please, but also put lit)‘Vll tlill'')ll'..- „lOU ick Clubs, and all those whose object is la rit)%. ;1 it 0 1 ' of the Constitution. And front W 13011105 ito I claniour against all societies came ? Froru 111 , 3 ar ~ i rishinert, ci-devant Members of Correspondiu, ii, cieties, r riends of the Peoole, and Coevc6°ll7lt o . :: Unto such • thletrinei lc. though they men we say, carry your teneral a poi ca - ', • • • 1 bit, Os'i cl • tton ; anti it you in 11 i or Ora ti.g.teriCa,l:oslcl:. tions "'hose object is the conserclio" ° o d ,, establishments: inhibit, also, assciciatlo9, t,i.' should . be recornme3,l,.-.1. t:' ::, ,), —.4aviog for . areir object . :seditlO:l, trelto"! , ot ,:, overthrow of the Government. if we ' et! ' I t i e t st' have a Protestant imperiunt in imperi 0, ti° lta- v lo' have Roman tatholiek VarliaMents 41)j • gogue Boards. le o oto . 0 , .Our objections to these:Clubs, os . reji will recollect, were, that the spread of i' ij° , y : 14 }and, and the good sense' of the peoP te " ~.c. t ja h l a lL t. i, t r h el e l ;e i°' ‘ ' r e c d re th': u l o n urenguueleaer C ul i ) u v h ii :o th f i4 : ::;;, - ) ' nature formed here, to c all for thc . ir i'''' litidil° and that they would excite rancor'oo 't"elitirl4.,:(' raise up bitterness of opposition, and e e l b oo' cif the poesosiniornatsi,n,iintyc.onsiisstiennete Wtiltilel.rti:pee7iollo',sl:6l,l,, been set to rest in the :.iray wc ' ' ti . !WO we s hall not :lain insist on the alt- r i t 1 jo t by which we supported these op4ltiollsi; lirio conclude with *l2 extiaet from 'at :' j 1)• P4per, notorious for all that we 11011! ° . 1. t i 414 ‘ ; h orrenc e, as an e xample of the truth 211 1 the be'fi Syst e la sti degrc do it— good cri,j A cc td --1 aret of till ~_ i~ 64 . trcai, t It ci , T biti, a~<<'. e~f Sb 0 ttliC tell etie te. hoc Ere: Par !no 4111 air( for II t: It c 4„ taj been so mna extolled by. some Min. Members, were not ollowed to be read.hy the lower class of the natives. nn-- th p: in of 'a cruet death. Those who had , boasted of the. ioor d character of the Ilindoos, and had ventured to put Win e,,t,:petition with that. of, our own country, ventured to make ai.'rtiou too absurd to be hazarded on any other occaslon. - r:,e character of the 'Missionaries was most respectable, and 'air letrning so great, that they had attuned a IClW*lrtire •Of 14 Indian languages even greater than that ofd Sir Y... . Mr. PRENDERGAST repeated again, that he Unit Seen Dr. Carey preach, standing upon a hogshead, and tell the audience that if they persevered in their idolatry, they mould he condemned flames. Mr. WlLBEnvoucn explained. . Mr. Smith, Mr. Whitbread, and Sir Thomas Ackland sup- , ported the preamble; Mr. 8.. Stnith, Mr. Forbes; and Sir Thomas Simon opposed it. The house then diyidcd,-- For it . 5% Against it -32 The !Muse then resumed, and the Chairman reported pro" .liress; find asked leave to sit again this day. • . AMERICAN cur roN. Mr. Alderman Alio xs gave notice, that he .honl,i move fot the Committee on the American cotton Trade this day: - Adiourned at II:dr-past Two o'clock. NIAII.s. NntuvEn—t lielizoland, 2 Dublin, I Waterford. Vtir-1 1 Malta, I Gottenburgh, Tana, I Dublin, .2 'Waterford. PRICE OF sToc - .(.s Tif I tvAV AT Twnixt: Consols 5711 58 I lted. Atm— 56iii I Otunium.. .411 TilE SUN. Mlll.liM QUIS DICERE ,11'1)1:A1 ?