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VI F It F r I fan 1, Ile would state the circurnstancos. ht was ....II known that to nutionit list they had suffered In that part of the country-- Mr. BANKEs ii.terrupted the lion. Gentlemurs rind yoke to order, and mgmitast x 'node so coutrary to Vie usual nr.ictices of the House.—(Cries of "Go I n, go on !") fhe or LONDONDERRY objected to going on inihe absence of the Eight Hon. Secretary•for lretind, led except he were in his plaice the Gouge 1...5a no fair chance 01 underatiulding the question. Sir E. O'llittxo (being now called on by several voicet) said, that the subject oGthe evening was in t i!a..tely connected with the communication. lie had to rwake.--(" Go on!" and cries of " Order !") rlte Martini% of LONDONDERRY said that his Friend would certainty be here in the 1..,0ige of the evening, slid then the lion. Wilma ws•ght snake his statement. tSir E. o'3atert said that he would take his cippoitunity io the course of the evening. diets/bed; yet his letters now iitforeeed him, that in tomes quince of-the extreme privation ender which they were suf. firing, depredations had began • lend that nol • nicht rimeeo in which persons nese not pliesidered of sonic patiourof whatever provisions they might have is tint( possession; sod the chief Magistrate cirt he police bad told him, that if they were PO rum.riit every venue charged will, .crating provisions the caul. would not hold them. Were api ople who had pima' their peaceable diemmitiou, and their reve• Imace fur the laws, to be left to the miseries of famine? Were they lobe furred into the commiesioo of crime as tire only alternative of relieving their sufferings t There weie no people so charitable as the people of were so people so ready to sympathise with the suffe r u Nts , and to bold out relief to the diet, of others; and would they not williegly extend their aid to the wants of their suf. feting fellownohjeet• ? Mr. W. BECH ER shortly hurt his testimony to the fidelity of tbe portrait drawn by the Huuowrable Bsrconet who preceded him, of the conduit/a uf that part of Ireland to which lie bele...rob Mr. GOV LBURN, as We understood, expressed his sur prise at the manlier to which the Government had been tall. ed on to captain the rae which had been taken, or which it might be nit oiled to lake, for the relief of the suf. peeing population of !related H. dad been to comma conimunieetion with the Hon. Samuel on the subject since his arrival in town. and the lion Baratta mud have bu u wn that if he bad nut al once taken the course of au applicaltuo to Parham rat 00 the subject, it was not from any want of attention tin the part of the Goeerioneut of Ireland, ur Goon the absence of • proper sympathy fur the distresses of the maple, but from the coterie' ion that to bring the subject Outer public discussion, before the Governmeat await leave satisfied itself as to the beat mode of affording re lief, aud the extent of the relief required, could only teod to aggravaie the cal by increasing the embarrassment in which the sub. jert was placed. It was necessary that the Governmeot should first loran uncertain to what earnt it was possible to carry say plas for relief, and also to what estate it ass as rosary to go. And ales lie ruled that the first eralasale represented the amount of relief required for the county of Clare •loue at four hundred thousand pounds,,,it would be seen ilia the Govern's. tit had acted rightly is refracting from the lusty adoptioa of sup measure which might have the effect of encouraging sundae deinseidi from ether parts of the country. It was perfectly true that in some parts of the country the crops of potatoes hail failed, but there were many parts in which there was a to believe that they had not suffered, and that ite some parts the cora crops hail been abundant. Arid although potatoes, in that part of the ceuutry to which the Hoe. Bamoet belonged, were ex travagantly high in price, yet the House would be surprised to hear that oatmeal was as a very low price; fur attliosigh lime might have been a rise within a few days of fir. per get , yet he knew that rip to flee middle abut week it was at 12%. per cwt. When Mr. Warbooluo p emoted ie Dublin the representatives of the Magistrates of the (mo difier. of the coolly of Clore, be was charged by the Gera amain to ration to that county, and ascertain to what extent die gentry of tie counts might be disposed Mame foreard to afford relief to the 'offering population, that that might be made the measure of the relief each would be ate forded by the Government. He (Mr. C.) had received that ,running from the Loral Lieutenant accounts adenine of the return of that gentleman to Dublin, sod that the Guveru meol were, therefore, sow ahie to comet* some midair:Pa as to the degree of relief which it might be proper to epos,- tient. The state of Intend was wodoehtedly greatly to be deplored, and would to God the Government had it It their power to 'relieve the people trace lim whole pressure of the distresses cutler which they were suffering! That was be yond the power of the Government, but it had Jotted As a ttains to the consideration of the best mesas of spplyitig, to the utmost extent edits means, that relief which it might be is its poser to Sir E. O'BRIEN explained, that his object was that Go. remora should advance a sum of money to be applied to the relief of the country, oe the serail of the toll-gates, sad that the advance shooed be repaid by a road rate. The Ord. r of the Day baying been read, the House re. sated itself into• Committee, sod The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose for the propose of calling the attention of the Committee to the considers. tins of the Report on the table. Before he proceeded to stale the particulars of the pope to the Committee, growing out of that Report, he felt that it was necessary, for the purpose of making himself understood as to the mode of relief which the Government had to propose, to cell lice attention' of the Committee to the siatare of the distress for which a remedy was sought. He hoped aud believed that the distress whirl, now pressed upon tin eountey was em.fined to its agriculture; and he did pro. mile Weise' that the gement state of the country might he regarded as prosperous, exclusively of its Berkelium It was consolatory to him to be borne Men in that eata ble hope by the continued prosperity of the revenue. The c u ceremeo were demi!, aware, that in the last quarter there was se Increase of 400,000/. as compared with the c.o. responding quarter of fat year; and in the last three weeks of the present quarter, the revenue bail steadily risen at the mu at/110001.a week. With respect to the mode of relies lag the distress of the agricultural part of the community, lie begged to adhere lu the same opinion which he had before exprossed, that those distresses arose out uf causes that were not within the reset) of legislative remedy ; they arose out of the state uf the markets, and the depression of prices, and until the evil had itc some degree corrected itself by the supply being regulated by the demo* any attempt to legislate in the way of remedy most fell uf its object. When he a ferred to the Honourable Member for Purtarlington (Mr. Ricardo), it would be felt that he lied high authority io support of his ' opinion, that the mostion of taxation, as a measnre of relief, could only affect the consumer, and consequently 'could truly affect the agrienlintist ion common with other eon maciers,and in the &Tier to which he was a consumer; and •Ilhertiet a reductloo of taxation might operate in some de. grew as cipalliat mu, it 'mild he in lb, highest degree fella-ions to rely On it a. a remedy fur the distr ease. of the agriculturist, mid he did believe that it wa the crook-lion of ibe farmer. themselves thou4bout the country, Iliac the Lea•latere, elfin Ullman up the whole taxation of due country altogether, could set remove the cause of the pre saute under which they laboured. Admitting the alp of 'Airtime such relief as was possible, by any collateral measure, it become Iltare•teltoosider how far any descripiern of advances which Its House might think it advisable to sanction, could be made available to the tt lief of the •griestlisirist. Then was a way which bad been suggested, uf advancing rosary to parishes on the security uf the poor rata. He had os a former tom anted that as one of the measures which had been tinder slur consideration of auverusneui, and vs the only one which at that lime appear. ed to be practicable. He had also slated that consideraWe - objections might be made to it, and that he the refute lashed bdep It ors) for further reineideejetion. He thought it his , dirty now to apprise the Committee, that the difficulties had been found to prepouderste, and that Government slid tut row mean In make any proposal of that nature. There eras Reuther proposition, each was that which he was Roe about to submit ; which was to advance capital fur I the ref of of per.ehe holding possession set British cure, on depdsiting hCis wareireases. He had before 'Ailed that "d -amsel% of esphal at all ought if possible to he 'voided, hot that cireasastene es weight Occur 10 render diem necessary. The resew proposition had not proceeded from him; his prepaiteus had beim rejected ; but lie had felt it his duty to brim: it hotrod in cumpliasee with the recommendation of the Conineittee ; sod a strung additional muter with Lim wes, that lee underetood this pia o-ition to ler one to whirl, the fermis themselves looked as a so-sure s.f tither If be looked upon it as • memo, ehich he expected to hear it described, calculated to raise the 'Tice of corn, he would on so account base brought it focused. But be looked open it as nut tending he any degree to lone that effect, but rattly ePtelliPled 110 relieve the market, so as to place the buyer and seller or a fair (mama of competition. Ifs effect would NOE be ho rase the prices to an unnatural bright, but to diateihnie the supplies more r (rally over the demand of the year, sod to prevent the iticonvetrieure of Dim aupply at the eurimiartement of the year, amid deletion, afttrwrods. It wee possible that It might not be as operative ' Mensal e. If people did vat believe that the glut at the early Pia of the year was umitunnel, and that prom woad be *leer at the latter end of the year, nu person would choose to 'what k in the apt allelic's, minty because the opera toot ty , t -- - --, 7 2. 1 - .• a for doing so was off, id Lim If the-refute his measure should hams tio results, it would at least be fee C am harm. il was Mir from which the feeiners anticipated coasiderahle benefit, anal :f the House should think prover not to adopt it, they would continue to think thief they rich' hitee derived hum it some relief. He should by tad by bare to Coll Illeir restraint's to the funds out of which such advsaces initial be made; but there were other matters of the same 'mime to %Pitch Government hail nee, oo ,? oo 11 Y turned its at tention, IT the Hon. Baronet on the other side of the House (Sir E O'Brien) hail delayed the communication which lie bed made, he would have heard that it was 11w intention of his Right Hon. Friend to propose • vote of credit. fur a mem, as iu 1818, to be placed at the disposal of the Irish Govern. meat, for the purpose of being applied for the relief of the distresses of the population of that pert of the kingdom, and also to be •dvaneed fur Slur carrying on of such public works as presented a reasonable prospect of repayment. Fur this purpose, and fur that which be had stated with re ference to the agricultui•l question, • sum of 2,000.0017 would be required. It had been proposed that the Beath should advatice4,ooo,ooo/. on Exchequer hills, at the low rate of 3 per cent. That, it was stated, apart from its local ap plication, by finding its way into general circulation, would operate beneficially as a measure of relief to the circulation, which was said to be considerably pressed. He had already stated, that should Parliament think proper to unction this plan, 1.000,0001. would be required for the advisees us storing emit, aid ll' 3 ike amount fur carrying oo public works is Ireland. Ile had great satisfaction in staling, to the House, that since their last iliscuseitos the Bank hod very freely and liberally oe fered to make an advance al the low rate of three per mat. for the 'impose of paying off tbe holders of the Navy Fire per Cents. who had derhoed seceding to the terms offered for the reduction of that stock. As • consideration for which a promise had been made to renew the charter of the Bank fur tea years. By that arronsement 2 600,0001. which was the amount of the mock held by those persona who had dimwitted, would be added to the eirculati• n by July next. It was absolutely essential that Parliament should make up its mind as to what coarse of policy it should adopt relative to the currency of the country. There wan reason to believe that the country bankers, in order to prepare them selves to act on that state of thine* contemplated by the eotoplet!oo of the measure which had been adopted fur the purpose of returning to • metallic eutectic'', had contracted their issues o• • scale much narrower than was necessary for their own security, or than their respoostbility required; which bad the effect of contracting the circulation within the amount required for the purposes of the commercial and other transactions of the country. It was necessary, tlwrefure to look •t the effect in the tireislatios • gat only of this country, but of the whole world, of plating our circulation on the basis of • metallic cinerary. Goverment had looked at the question in that light, and were satisfied that it would be more prudent to sees 1 the period fur completing the opesatioo fur some yeses, iced it bad been thought advisable to make it coiseideut with the Bask charter, which would extend it to 1833.—(11ear.)— If the argument were well founded, that, by making gold d , not only here, but is every other part of the would, • Considerable pressure upon the circulation had bees incurred by the means adopted in accelerate the return to a metallic curresmy, chat would be the pressure of the additional quail lily requisite to supply the absence of all the small notes now its circulation? Great sod laudable efforts had been made by the Batik of &Wand, bat nu sooner did they throw their pietas and sovereigns into circulation, thau they began to ' retur n stack upon them. There was every appearance of a perfect reliance on the security of the standard already Circu lating, mid to persevere In the issue of gold would be furring a gold circulation against the taste of the country. He thought, therefore, as it was necessary to choose between the two alternatives, mid to make the choice without delay; that it would be preferable to allow the circulation to rest on papec—(Hear!)--.So as that the country bankers should comilnue to Issue small note., payable by theta la 11311 k of Ragland notes on demand, and to leave the paynient of B ink of England notes in gold oat the same footing as at present. It was the wisdoms wish of Government to cultivate banking operations of • character which must be most solid from the number end respectability of the persons embarking in them. His Right Hutt. Friend, with this view, had obtained a negociation with the Bank of Eagland to obtain such • re laxation of the Bank Charter a• to enable the establishment ' of partherallips of more theta six persona, though out within such • distance of (Ando* as to interfere wails the ope. rations of the Bank of Enelenal. The distance of sixty five mites round London would perhaps be • proper limit. Such a would give that facility and security to the currency of Ibis country which prevailed in Scotland ; anal in following meth so ',temple, he thought we shaulit be 'mitts under the most favourable auspices. There were iu 'het country twenty-five banks, three of which were charter ed companies, aml the remainder jolot stock eumpanlim, the average number of partners in each being from fifty to sixty. In order to induce persons to go into them, they laid down principles of hanklog so fair sod correct in their nature, as to convince the parties of the security and lucrative nature of the concern, and fur fifty tears (until the • other day, that he had hewed • rumour of the suiraoe of the failure of a Scotch batik, whether true or nut he had not since hero informed) there had nut been esthete thwance of failure among them. The attention of Giweroment having been applied to the reduction of the estimates as low as pomible, Parliament had satisfied itself of the exiesence of a surplus of krone' over the expenditure of 5,000,0001., and had thus realised a system of Mather which plated us is a solid stale of Others, and corroborated its former decisive, of cunvertiog shmlover surplus mitht exist to the preserva tion of the credit 'if the country. The House had alto per mitted his Right Hoc Friend tu mob+, k in the mom glamor, financial measure that ever was attempted, that of redwing to • lower rate of iestetest funds to the extent of 155.0 9 0,01 W. He believed that if it had bet o mated at any former period that such an ',wail could be concluded in the short spare of six weeks without • couvuleion, that it would have been thought madness; it had however been accomplished with out any difficulty, end the interest of the debt had thereby been seduced 1,300,000/. a.year. He owed name explain's tiou to the House ou the pate of his Right Hun. Friend, on a measure which he hail it in contemplation to propose. His Right Honourable Friend would put the Nous , in lam emotion of • Resolution which be would move nn • future night, probably Wertheaday or Friday in the present week, for the purpose of bringing that under the coesidera !ion cf Pas limment. It might be asked why he had nut pro posed it before? The magnanimity mad wisdom of Parlianothe having sustatued the many shocks which it was natural to expect should be levelled as ioublie credit in the course of the present Seamus, by permeate noxious so afford relief to the die• tresses which pressed on the agriculture of the kingdom, the confideuce of the country in politic credit had been firmly established. Ii was illipOTlllb'e that has Right Him Friend could prepare, mewl the public entail stood high ana Uremi a and until the great operation of the reduction air the 0 per cells. wee completely executed, mid the market completely tranquillizt al—until this were the case it was ITelllll. sible that hie Ittglit Honourable Friend could in more to loirig under the consideration of Parliament the fiaiturial measure *lnch he bad now is contemplation. The House one aware that there was um" shading under the heads of arms, 'levy, and ordnance, a dead expense, •moutitioo to an annual charge ot 0,001.1,0001 This stood on the credit of Parliament, aud the faith ill the country, in the form of an sultana of various aromas granted to the parties, who had been eneployed iu these beseeches of the public ACIVICP, ass. der v , italU regulations, for pensions nod superannuated allua arras. It was indeed • debt mewling us • fouling greatly incoureineut to the other relations of the eaen• try. It gave to the poll c as exaggerated notion of the expense of the ewahlialenseute of the country ; weak slit them believe that Wetted of 12 or 13,000,0001. they amouuted to 17 or 111,MM,0001. On all mead principles Iles ought rather to be treated OS debt than 44 14•1184114 on the same fooling with the other expenses of ihreasairy. It Was a debt of • nature peculiar in itself It was a cheep that had grown up out of a war the moat extraordinary Is its net and circeimetaoree, such a war se hr did bops would, never occur again—(flnel' cbeeriug)—a war is Worth the Mowers of the country had bees most powerfully die. ' vektherl, sad in which it bad made miertionsef that gigantio nature far its ovr• safety sad that of &ewe, as might larked be , o nce eassaiard, but vo pld p ro b a bly otter be made again —(Loud tbeere.)—The promaion for - those oho Lad acqaira classes *pow the pubic for samees ~- ~ "44 during that war, atecidafed to 5,0416,960/. anntislly ; the v 1 " 1 .1° the sime held , tiler the Amer tgen war, having Wil t 7 ""usslrd to 018.1 8 :01 This greet leerorm-e of this heed of e N:relisr, rendered it incelthelt ow his Alejledy's M oment to retire the elsertri, .0 as to protect OW r)..1 , 1ry in future from steels en immune of rherge cyder ibis head. It was seer ssss therefore to place the. chasm. .in a foutmc to be 'rested as a debt, di.tioet as indeed it was in it. er,iu re from anti other mutton of pub' w debt. Calcul ding on mire-S -pies of annuity tatter, it wet problble That in shout TO years the whole of this charge would fall in. Ilia Right Hun. proposed lu rulituit to the consideration of the Morse, to make a pruri.ion for the payment of dfts chaste, whieb would in no degree alter the siterationamf she Melt •idends, either wish Parliament or sill' the Crown. It was ,aridly a finmeint mi , cot 1 retching the sit usilou of the parties, Host touching the ailotioistraihiu of the Noels user the control of Paili.intent, nor the *onset gear.% hat only altering (be mode is which the payment was sir be pro. sided. The (lOftlien which his Ri g 6l Hem. Veined had te sobniii was, whit M3ll the rem which omelet he required in a fixed amenity fur a number of years. of the bums to be plot to the leveret individemls Moving atioustfes payable out of this charge. The perste' he would fix sestet be filly. Ave years He ought to Mate whet the wurkini of such a principle woali be. If the Homer thought fit lie grout sit amenity fur forty-five ram of lions 2.500 With to 3.01/0,0004 contracts might be firmed upon adeqled• lily, for firreeishing in exchauge fur such •nuitity, the souls required in smelt year for the paymeut of the several auhui tams. If by paying 2,800,0001., contracts coul.l be (mood wish responsible tirelevidul Is so furnish the sums to pay the clatmaut. on this. charge, an immediate 1111,1111; would be effected 0(2,100,000/. The woe k log uf this measure for the Oust IC 'ewe would ett el a great liaving to the coon try; arid 0 might be calculated that the sum thee to be paid by the coatrooms would, by the felling off of the peosiourra, be reduced so equal to lint which the country would bays to pay .theme ; and after that pe riod the contractor would des Me all the advantages of the Ching is of the •vneities which would he well repay ing him. If Parliament would sauctmo this priociple, the Goverioneet proposed to ieyit ; though he euti:d out miller lake to as,ure the House or the country of it. success. If it did succeed, they would be able to realise to the pu die that which the Hon, Member fur Curia Castle (Mr. Lteeike.) had proposed. Th., Hoe. Member had said, unless they were able to tie op the 6000,0001. surplus of the revenue mild it imamate] to our per cent. ou she capital of the debt, they never would arrive at such a sinking feud es had been one gully proposed. This measure woolel enee-de thou SO to tie up Ibe . b,000,0001. and et 'rag h to place th.! sinking fund on that simple fooling which bad always been de sired by his Right Honourable Friend. The !tinted wag nut very remote in which it might be accomplished, mot mi which the country would reap that rich reward of its exert ions which always grew out of neeasurea of justice. Thry would st rive in 10 years to a sinking food of 7,800,000?.; and in the course of that time they would hare reduced 70,000,04/01. of the debt, which would leave at the disposal of Parliament 290,0001. annually. Thus they would be placed in a sita• atom iu which they could out hesitate to tic up the stir plus 0(3. 11 00,000/ for a .inking fund. Supposing fur an an nuity 0f2,000,0001 such a toutraci kr he had mentioned could be made, a sum of 2,200,000/. a year would thereby be placed at the disposal of Parliament, which it might apply ad it thought necesasry. They would thereby be enabled to give relief to the country in the only way In which a reduction of taxes could r. twee it. God.foilnd that he should lead the country to think that any relief from laces could resoure the pressure of distress ; when he said it would give relief, he begged always to be nurierstood as meaning solely a sober mea.nre of relief, and not any !Mug ai the way of m ukiug miracles, by the entire removal of distress. He had, moreover. It beg the Howse not to let in the ellatedleat thought of the possibility of getting at the relief to which At had pointed, but by some aterifice of' exertion, toward, the complete execution of the phi he had mention...l. His Right Host. Friend would not Ix prepared to reeommeu .1 the Home to • redact the whole stem .A 2,300,000/. fr.im the amount uf the taxation. Ii would be necessary to make some. proviso'', to meet farther claims which might yet grow due us the dead expense arising out of the late war. They had looked into the meisure as closely as calculators in au abstruse matter ailing kited would allow; and they had reason to believe that 300,0001.1.0.1 d completely mover the addition to the dead expense which would sweetie in the mat ten years, *a I that met of g,200,000/. they would howl to set -smut 3 or 400,801. fur that purpose; illky would then have 1,8000901: to vesture la taxes. Ipilit again evaders ihe flouse and the comsat, eis belies' 0 1 1111‘wells a silliefavit 00 he oht tined by careyesig into •co ea.4lxectitillgeAlor year e, I lie had proposed, had by a'alwarly a 'tnewitielples. It would Hot be expected of him 10 as fa akas they remelt' propose to give hp . I.ll3ilir every view g i kop,orti embattle, tug the effect *heels` ties tarot tun eitimaigteowelP wens or by say inelivoluahls-ustrer of say pasticOr tau, was calculated to producPshia the articles immetheavely mil► ject to such tax, it was iitil'el=thcouut prier that it im should be etatioreil omit' eminent in which tbe.plan was prepared for adoption. to Mile memos of-004st .11041 years they hail already taken °Cate limos dim intermit. iii to 400,900/. and the malt taw to 1,210,000(.; and if they should be able to sake off fseethee tales to the unusual of 1.8000001, they would hate labia off Mtn :ether 3,400,000/. He thought if the arratigetneast he bad suggested should enable them to lake off taxes to that amount, without touching tits sinking fund of 5,800,000?., leaving that to go on until ii ansumet. J so one per teat. on the whole capital of the debt, and without calculstiog oo i any lescresse of retenue, it would be allowed that the advantages which would thus be genteel to t h e country were preferable to these whirl, the lion. awl Lempeel Geotleinan opposite (Mr. Brougham) held proposed to aileron in the Crills. menretneut of the Session by mole Maj. damnable torsos. He would now proceed to what more immediately related to tits apiculture' question, lead the mode of relief which it i was desirable to adopt in terse net to it. The first question 1 'nal naturally presenieil itself on that brad was, wile. t tiler it was a reasonable time fur 'Hinging the mil+ ci at all terrors Parlianieut. Although these might be great iliffi ; cotters in the question whirls were out racily to be ovie• come at owee, yet he could nut foresee any mono.' at who h it was likely be public uliud timid be bruullit • to view the question muse calmly Mau at the peetietit lime. flerauw the time was now emote at winch any propositiow could be 'rough) to bear upon Ike guest ; subject of contention batmen the apicaltuessis mad the people at large. For himself, he thought it was uut pus ; allele to strict the prices it cola; luot lie was prepaerd at a proper time to make some •lierai ••••• a in the I,IW, I because there were in it eircometaurea likely to operate ; great itecouveilieuire ; and if for use oilier season hut tea give i the a I more of ehe country time sod opportunity to exercise itself to tibia subject in the prevent Seasivo, he was desmowA In cementer this ali the fittest time to brii.g it forward. ; Th; re was out any diversity of opinion in the Committee as to the glut of cora which peeved. d abroad; Mill that if it I should be allowed to come situ this commit' without control I ur restraint, uo man could describe the ruin which world Le brought upon the apiculture of elm country, not fur woe or two yews, but fur a leogthened pereud.—(Hear, hear, hear.)—lf it wire came in it would lay like a otglit-mare-- (Hear and • laugh) —*s et new, r t...u14 lit . spurt. .1, but moat femme is this cuentiy. If be weie ark•il es to the chances I of the ports opening next year, lie would like to lay a bet that they SOU id mkt u pen, er men the iii'll year; and he would I take oddielleat meet they would 001 illiell /II she y. ar follow iug that. But still it would be nu mute, r for the liuuseut COlllllllOllll i to give to libels euusti•nt tot, that brc.u.e the rliaores were ' apnoea the country being ,tuned mai year, the House there , fuse would slot tskd any steps to meet the danger Molise' the pommel year. The peeseut was out a tune fur the House to .lumber in their duly, and he W.lll perauailed that a posers. meat which should put nail( upon the good arose of the . people, would 'Hake a good passage even in the worst . of firma. If then they were opted on pe tartlet's, Ilse quest resolved itself Roo the proper quantum of duly, suit the differences of momenta UM that panel were so leant, that be fur his emu part Avoid be disposed to : adopt any of she different proposilione suede iu the Cons , muter, rather than expose the country to she danger of . all terrible as inundation of foreign corn. He would slate the grounds on wheel' Ills hopes were founded of some inemure twin passed in the .present Session. He tito 's o u gh l I t sa tlre d'sr ;ca Pe tl eg Un to was su se p ot t y inss er of uude t r he co stood ab h al y " th il e Ybalhe farmers, :-~~ : - ,••....ul..k. f 4 . ,\ uteri had Not, loeitori to the I, C..tbmi'lste OW* sal Not (and hr hoped to the itosisr) a second opinion, that as I seal' it was defective. He paoserl at no, to oil- errailied immortal ion, which was freest from the fere trade adtoeal.d by II Portia/oven (Mr. Rirardo.) All operi (mild nut to he ?spirited tif an ioundati ft.ol d it were agreed that the imposition • only prataal 'amide moraine (of which aelveri f) doubt), then the question, ga hr had bef rowed iniu the mere qoaututo of dirty; lure were Iwo chasm-. of opinions: one, ' duly should be from 20. to 40s. per qut dew, which considered that from 10e. i would be sr(Beirut. He was Masi eials t ' rl in a i n g d li was ho r shat -lass to Ise s al" the Hoeur lPorat the b. Bois of Loadosole , ry) thought that with t was or he found iu the present eircumatl which were by no means in a u sturid Wk. agreed in thinking Hist 'hue the present stisie of the tormmarket required a peculiar set of measures be required at a future I' moil—shut had but to cast their uy. a abroad to he trolls. They wou'd see emoutries which. Mimic, of eltell far their s ub s i s t euee wit eves Sweden Mal simulate!, gorged with the canoe of the great division of eentoote• of the duty, he thr.ught that those who c 40a. per quarter had put out of their eon, charges to which foreign eyes was Gutsier( The Committee was late in taking that unaideratioa, hut nhen considered, he II a most material effect. He tl 1111 l eta It foreign corn could nut come hero for Irss 12s. per quarter. According to the two' and insuranee would be par I from ss. add to which for the ordinary commerci cent., which, aupposiag corn at 50a. per r ss. per quarter more, making together whti to that might Ise added 51 more as the eh+ which it sleight probably remain 111 the • any man isr his mosses say that Parliamei • duty of 40s. per quarter on an article twel•e shillings per rower, and that fore it comes into the market, pay reset quarter? It would be a gems delusion oar a moment's encourageortot to such a I appear to him wuitls while 11l argue with the ultra aide of the q•!mtion, as hr so' hard!). bear the Mali meat of their own p.. then to look at the question of modeler first notice our misrepresentation, which pagated—he meant the notion that 35a. p average price of the foreign quarter of. meat to say that a f. •.. quarters of (ureic now bit imported at 355., but the (Uccle more got a profit upon it than the had on that which he was selling This was • delusion propagated by persons to lead the public mind eat this import( would venture to affirm that, aiib a vi turns, foretell curs could nut he quoted al lug to the returns of the Danis.. market last seven years, the pent ante (without am tag it here) 4g.. per quarter. It was a grim fore, to talk of a eVallpelitlell at 355. per qua no other purpose than to callow it, it was t Guermorni to he rig forward the present wished particularly to attract the smoke r her fur Lase* whilst he was on this pond. before observed, so little diversity in the in r'•%. Committee, that whether the Hour ditty of 20s. descending 11.1 10.. per quart( the Hon. Member fur Portarlingion, or t Marquis of Londonderry) had proposed, of the int place, and a &Wipe duly of ss. which be understood a Right Hon. Gent pose, mutely a duty of IS.. without deserts. Member fur Portarlington proposed, be was to airy of them. What would be she real them? They beard now complaints that du nothing, sad it might he from thence I present duties oruae from a woo of id mut, the primeut price was nut within that at which the ports might he opened. .supposed that Parliament was pow, .eil of sos► high prle. a. But the question wsa.uhtt is them Hun that should be given? He (Lord Londondei that. the ruunity shouNtl derive its supply of for , " system of duty, for the effect of duty was r the warehouse; but unless it were to be it woolsl not belrought into the market, is try would be protected from the Jury of forrigo corn. The amount of protection, I.is eat of lbe proposnious, would he 15..; 104. or li.. per pewee charges, as INC.', make 275. per quarter that the importer of pay tit abaienteat at the price which the English market, According to t Committee„ it would be 29.. per quarter; Member for Portarlinetnais plan wire be 325. per quarter. The Couitnitire woul had got Into the ultra position, but on a he did not think these would be found inortlii objection to the plan of the Hun. M. other f was, that it would be a lezislating fur might so happen that the eircaniwassees icon Hume nose supposed. Though the dotter conaidered prohibitory, yet he it ghl the' sufficient protection to the English grower ' posirig air tirdi•idul to import at the I (AlltolueliliZ, with charges, to 275. per • which bre would ;venire would rout Ile 70s, Touter. In the ports of the Baltic pike of wheat was nearer 355. Asa 30s. that thtre would be a pearliest coluaioss price 111 our market was 70•. per quart. welt known that formerly the duty of operated as n total prohibition, for Intl a imported. The Hun. Member fur Porta. to ° l ieu the ports at 70s. pie quarter, at nut see any great objection to it, duty of the House to avoid alarming In ordinary times, and looking at the tpletti state of things, there was lio utihrully in la protection without any import price whale' chat gu would Sc a practical import poi sent state of things • great quantity might Soil its way 4110 the country. A Hoar. Member fur Po. 'rutin:lon migni be Out he able to per•oseje the country thr thereforeoa that head ha (the NI mg it's of an tool. rstauding might be conic to. the nature of the propositious of the Cut not exactly those ul his uws mind, but w lab bat to bring foiward those whiter sanction of the great toes of the Commit nevi r bad sat in a C tttttt mitre on • art greater wiammily prevailed as to the measure. The first resolution which I would be respectiroz the wit naiiiiim housed The srcond 1'4.0111111M wuuid Ice, having fureigs corn warehoast,t Isere to gi i ecitil.aatloniti,tosez,. h re it from props..ciirnirait.. ie ker eawil teratione of the rxistiog core laws as to tl 70s being substitotid for 1104., which he would agree to whin they recollected Her much unlike *Alai FO.. was. There war yiaulity of foreign curs warehoused, • of the law as it stow stood. Hi 8 or 000,010 quarters of corn, rf wl 'was wheat, mot if nu re irulatten ass all this would conic unt 'soder no that the Colllllllsit could supply. To 11 Coulitseut they oath. apply a duty, hut aralently with good faith •.; deal with thai •Ithirsigli *toy might perui‘i it to rume ear Os ploarol of a duty. II the Right Hon siabout his Res..lutiutor, the Coninrittre • them taro sets of Resolutious oar whii . h thought it could not be cosiventently disci luuom wire printed—he proposed th should be read proforma, and the di hato U AGRICULTURAL REPORT. The Marquis of LoNDOstomtitittniivecithe Or tler of the Day for the Honse forming itself into a CoihMit i tee to take this Report iota further consi deration. He and that he would take the opportu nity of the Committee for explaining the intentious of Oovernation. The call fur Sir E. O'BRIEN again became almost general. Sir E. O'BRIEN was proceeding to observe that the call was grstolving to hint. The Marquis of LoNnoNDERRY again objected, especially us his Right lion. Friend, the Irish So t:Wary, had been mem for. Mr. Boot:Guam thought that it world be more convenient for the House in hrar the communica tion then, then in the midst of a debate on another subject. Mr. PEEL had no wish but for the fullest expla natMn. But his Right Hon. Friend was aware of the communication of the Hon. Baronet, having received *huller intelligence that mottling. He was prepared to answer the lion. Baronet, but then he ought to have bud sufficient notice of the Hoot. Darman's intent Who House atoll called for the statement of Sir E. O'Brian. - r•• Sir' ollorg 'faked if the condition of mid thuusauda living on one wretched meal • ria . y was pot a suffictent subject of importance to demand utteotion ? lie stated it with grief—a small libidos of oatmeal, mingled with nettles or Otiteieftesei; was the daily allowance of food for ktitglOy thousapda of the people in the sotlth. .The xeliatf to distress so urgent roust not be delayed, .(Cries of " Go on. go on!")-.What was there to Nohow, in the sufferings of-others with this state of dtpitsion ? It was well knowit that from the rains of August and September last, the po woes were all wrier-logged in that part. of the country t they wore dug up, and in that state pitted, to prevent any further effects from the ;float *collier: The decay lad, however, begat. 'to thtik, ;he . .liotatoes were brought in, and 'changed from time to time to dry them, but the tar greeter part perished. It was not toll Very lately that- the extent of the mischief could he astertiiined. The arse' was most nor. lanqholy. "Tie Grand Jury sad' Magistrates had forwarded fo eepresentation from the Asczes to the :Lord Lieutemmit, and they had no doubt of his Lord 4rosip'd binigor consideratiou being given to the sok ject : ; 15trt doe dowers was so far beyond calculation that wi tfilog but Of Parliament could reach !?!.. To ! counties of Cork, kerry, Limerick, 40 . / 1 itaiiilaillions•Rotti: all ins robin silos- tie*. If any moo ulna isnnounce that laitoco. t.iitiowood:Worwiek were without coed Mud employ 41iittrior•their poimletion, what would be rani? "N et bedause they were the most poor and riecessitour, 51 0/4. 0,0 1..0t I. a listeutti iu ? Were they to wait till the doitress became intolerable brfore they *UMW gain attention ? There were our million and half of kisvoiale without the ttievus of exicsnee ! 'The ',vermin or 1801 and 1616, severe as they „ s viere, were nothing to Ibis. Then there oas pru. *lblou at area time of the year lot two or time in.a..th.; cow there were foes months tit wait, be. lore the ore mop, withoot soy .o.tenonee. At 'ltie former period the pressure was great because Ike ;okra; were high; but thew there was money in engul o tion, cull some of it found its way into Irsliond. The high prices of groin carried into inset cottony Kure some relief to the pressure. But 'repot v.. their reseed situation ? Thousands of able awn about the country 'Rollout the means of • • life, or the posothility of gaining tr rls)'s labour at the lowest possible price ! Thry bail no means of igetiine tidier money or money's wi.rth to supiont ' the* tliroughout the whole county of Cane. He korw.the grtietally received ortolan was. that there was plumy of corn to be had. What stgnidrd that Co ireopir who hod no inoury to boy it ? Much 'would be dare by the gentlemen of the coons try' and the uhsruhrev. But what could they all a., to phew,. such distress nessoug 150.000 *ire county 1 All the resources of the country, of every knot, world do nothing; relief must be lasi/, or the prople by thousands open thousawds must prrtsh, and. thesossuds alone would perish I,itat that canoe. The destroymg angel was sirestly out : do whetrerr they otruld 1111 W, illOUSellai 11/U4 rof hunger lerfaire trlief could arrive. This was rip. smog inelei.choly story in the world ; he was ensuprilrd to toll the atteuiion of the House to The chore-se would not be iu fullest force till she middle of nest months They bad ably to look set the price* to judge of it. Polotors twelve months ego lid, per stone, weir now 61. usigl . bid.; outeueul higher at Limerick thaw in 4pinkri, Wing it the former place 151. per toss. onto d could tee 'bought in any English minket at 13f. ! WWI could .4 1 do for thew I Would airy rdvaucr moue,/ on •the rates? would. they lend t- erw ivordlion or so ON that security • until some breier should be door ?.. They could bold ttn jonger ; their dustiest, menet be reiteeed.- 114 Mee. Ryer! ptoreetiektu dtaw an affeetiog picture ("htt ojekttytey st•te of the evenly ef Clare. He prayed ' his hispeir•• 44serotorot to este:dab' %belittle tie *eV :46. of the' w igatiotlit whiff ft was teeth) lu be, slid iT • he 0e.. 6 sib applp ihtell to the best odds of sffuttling some et-Itef; lot br could swore then thee the coesesry geolle. taro o f Emotion ..old room Awl it market fur soy eerroltes 46:" thr peudeter of their !midi, sod • cousequeet retie( boon • troy ovoidal of their orroult .1111Sehittes which toyfitertee .• Noir thee striae, 'though much to the loiteour of the 'Jemmy otueb.oe had the boomer' I. repast tit, *kite other pelt' Wert ilsoterbeit, abet* the whole of Lost tick Was in- 'hoed, thy had hero able to presente the year.* wholly we - _ misiew. ,=..=!:el .4511:4.11).1.1,.rh..tr1e1errit 1i5t...ew.1it.f1iew:51ri,',.!idi:e.4..h.411:,:,,,a1ir,,t1::.:11p:441.,.e'rr,e4... ~. I 1 Ire front closed poi te 1 1 the Hon. 31,0,, for I int that the em it • 1 Sion of feirign cote. 1 a of a duty nos th e I 1 an d ON the pt,' 1 e, which thou& t,.. i airier; elud else Loh r .! to 20.. per quer,- i 1 itmeable Member t I Lead. He (the Mite 4 I that clam the time N !oboes of the s ui !.g, i I wale. tieqi m+ i was something illi of the world which I 11 01.4 th mien 001 d sough indeed they • he convinced of ILat 1 iln never grew a i n (G. I 'llll full earelsim mi; I ili tom Lookiser Iv I eil as to the animist I coll. d fora duty o f i mildh ratios the other I !led be.ides the duty. I it subject into thee 2 thought that it had I Is. might nay that d all Iliad from Ilk. lu d idence, re.. transport d to 7.. per querler, d wren., profit lit p er e r quarts., would b e a liel lie bast er-oed ; hue I iharge fur 12 Mimi., i lirdieliQUlre. ('„.;,1 1 rot might to tsopiee 1 ii that logs imiantly they eircidusfy, be• / rid, en uhi !hoz, per I in the farmer,. to pre s holm.. II did ant • 11 theor Giiiilltm, d or I opposed ihtl uomil I re opemition. C..nii:g I ate duties, hr would I I was generally pro- 1 per quarter was the I of corn. He rlid uoi I reign corn tight nut • reign grower b.d uo I be English protect s for 50s. per qtirifir. 1 rsous who attempted I event topic; bat i.e s view to proltslde re. I at that price. gook• I le, en sorrier of lie 3 tiny charge fur 1, ,i.. 1 from delusion, them- • r quarter ; and iti tor i I ass the duty of the f eserst inquiry. Ha a e of the Hen. Mem. • it. There woe, as he I he propositions made 1 use should adopt the I flee, as proposed 1., i , that which he ,fie e of Its. per quarter in / . per quarter,or that t iiileman would pro- 1 'reading, us the He . I was ready to a. c. d• I eat effect of any .f 1 t Parliament would t i Imagined that IN I if motection, when. I i 30.. per gustier of i el. lit seemed to he 1, if some charm to sire w a the scale uf rube- • ondonderry) thought a y of foreign con ens d rim 10 M.] core 10 lt be sold for a profit. I , and thee the nun- a of a mat Whiz a I Diii, according to the a 1.; 10 which aiding a e• calculated, world I off tertgu corn meat I be could übtatn to 1 the scheme of the 1 r; and if the Hue. I e "cloyed, it would 1 slit perhaps think it I a full consi leratiou, • ordinate duties. WI I Ifr for Poenthntlon 1 or futority, wh n it 1 re !Meld he Memel t 1 ditties could Nat le I A they would afford a er of curt ; for sup- a lowest scale of ditty s quarter), the price e la, but ouly 435. per t le be beheved the 71 10e. per quarter ; se I ion of corn till the trier. I eideed it iris 1 of 235. per ries•iur ) a single quarter was P asbestos would soh sod though he ii.d d e • a am'iseijoeFilitkoitii:filitenataoaen4iipinrl:Nitrirh.:. proper itever. The duty and • rice ; but in the pre- • of low•priced corn 0 So that thonah the C he eortect, he wood • hat be wee ern tad i • I.ondotiderry) heir , - i - i He had thus dal .1 . .. , • iminiktee; they ii,i• . ~ •• t he had wit 0111 , r . .. 11 had received the e Otte. He certain! , t :rem subject, •lirre i ! necessity of oust I be should propose or British corn Isar , P lie, to enable person' ti cried it Under rerlain • Ito the home market ise would Marie al. . a the scale of duties: 1 he trusted the How' Al hat 711 s. was put 501 la as et pelmet • tare a imported eider t he th le believed there •al which 6 or 7 00 . 001 now made, nut oet 4 o testi-Met, but 5. 1 the supply from tol 2 ii li ~ • 41 ii ' "IN • 411 - -. • In , ' l r i o" al l ' i lr liii it e l et h ‘ il fdd i r u i , would i bc " e i r eg ati cs: : : " If io n e l :v i at i ::::: : 117 : 1 . : : : : , ( 4 : g e , :: :: :f li ' . % 4: -- " • • _ ._ •