The Sun. — London, England, 1813-03-18 00:00:00

, . rig rt neeeSSary. As• the matters connected with " his e- f lam-akin had occurred seven years ago, ha shetiY have wished to have had time and oppor ,tan to recollect What had happened at a period so. t mote He was sorry that it was not in his' j ower to give that explanation which was •reei.ired,, It had happened from some strange, circumstance, that he bad not, been present -at the examination on the 3,1 of drily the day on vibich 1-Irs: Lisle had been examined. His 11m=tittendimee on that occasion had been owing la< )u-attendance o aaar intimation not having been sent to him ; for he was present at all the other examinations, ex . cent cf the 3 , 1 July. Unless 'on the examina'- ' tion upon that day. a very different course had been followed in taking 'down the deposition of the witnesses, what had been stated by his lion. Priend (Mr. W', ithread), could not he cotreet.-::- Were'be examined upon his oath, he should'aay, that the evidence in every case where he was pre sent had been taken down eXactly as delivered by the witnesses,, All the , NOble • Lords present at the - exami»ation bad been most attentive ; and some of the witnesses, haviog requested to be al 'lnwed to read over theit owoaleposititions, their requests had been complied with, and some al terations made at their own: instance. The cus tom having been, during the whole. examination, to omit/bequest ions, and merely to take down the ,answers, unless the Lords had thought proper to order, on thcone day, of the 3d oNtily, , that the qoestions should lie taken clown. tbta-e,ivas every 11.t141111 (US tioniifiratilq rilenfi been imposed upon. He said this after reflec tion. .Before concluding; he could not refrain from sa)iog, that the whole examination had been conducted with impartiality, and with a desire to find that the Princess' of Wales was not guilty. Mr. JOHN SMlTllspoke shortly in favour of the motion. Mr.,SX'EPtI explained. • Mr. Lsscetces observed, that the publications, were, called a ibel by lin 'Hon: Gentletnrui ops posite, but lie would be glad to know how it could ire proved that they were 59, in the &cut of a • prosecution against the publishers ?. To him self and to every feeling Man in the country, nothing could , appear to he more ':degrading than Ord matter of , the documents.- But thp depositions of the Witnesses examined by his Ma jesty's Commissioners,' .had, been iwthe hands of the public, for a very long time, so that some • forbearance had been exercised by. the Editors of Newapapers, in refraining front publishing theM, alfhisugh they had them in their possession; and they had at last only Rimed then!. when they were provoked to that step by the publication of that letter which was the origin of :the whole disclosure, Mr. PtinsTsist spokejn a tone; but y4e un derstood that he opposed the motif . m.. Sir T. PLostea could, nut forbear frotTollPring to the House at few obsertmtions on the 'twitter before it ; for it was a questihn which affected,not hirOself only, but a deceased - friend. As a letter i‘s<icli had been recommended by the• legal ad viers" of the Princess of Wales had -been vise sub isles of attack, and as it had been said to be cons necteli with the -recent publications, be hoped that the (louse would excuse his offering a word of explanation on that subject. When Called upon to justify the propriety olthat icor! adviee which he, in concurrence with the other advisers of her Royal Highness the Princess otWales, had given, and when it was recolleetedthat the advice Which he wasabout to justify hail been given 4t a period so far back as seven' or eight years ago, it would be allowed that it was not possible for hint to'reeollect all the - circumstances under which tit& advice bad been given. The Uouse would ha the justice to remember, that when called upon to give advice on the part which her Royal High 'fleas should att, her advisers were , bound to con shier all that was likely to happen from her Royal Highness being silent while an, inquiry Was Ow , an upon a subject which concerned, the honour and l • life of her Royal Highness. They were-bound to consider' whether.the honour and credit of the Mr, Wurti3o4,said, he would with►lraw his motion, to make room for one from his lion. Friend. The motion of Mr. Whitbread having been withdrawn, Mr. TIERNgY moved...." That the Printer, Pub lisher, and Proprietor of The Horning' herald, should appear at the Bar of the House to-mor row." The Hon. Member afterwards said," that not wishing to appear p a rti a l, he sliould include• The Morning Post." Mr. RYDER iiiidiceled Mr. Whitbread, who had ended a mutter, which seeined sa.hig with im portance, with an insignificant motion, which had. been withdrawn, and one substituted, 'Which was the most preposteßms and absurd that he had ever heard.: He wondered that the advocates of the liberty of the . press could have betaken them. selves to a proceeding so trannical; For his own part, he. saw no reason why the Editor of another paper shoUldlie called to state who gave him the unfortunate and ill-advised letter of the - Princess of Wales, , 'which he had published. He should Oppose the 'notion, because he was convinced that it would not be productive of •any-good, and Cause he thought it was not a measure of sound policy: - Mr. C. IVYNNE,thought that the publiCation of. 'a minute of the Privy Council, without authority, Was an offence into, which the House should in quire. He supported the motion, but upon a different ground from e Hou,-,Morer. dld mint wish the tionse to` interfere in the milortu nate dispute, hit thought' that it should interfere for the purpose oi preventing further disclosui.es, Mr. CANNavo said, that he had formerly ex ,pressedthe greatest pain at the situation of things which had led to the motion before the House;. 7 4 ,that pain was not diMinished, but, on the con trary, much augmented by the turn which Tilatte:l had taken since .he had before spoken upon t h e subject, and by thealisappointment which he felt at being obliged again to deliver hip. opinion on such a - subject, He thought that although the motion' .was less objectionable than the former, yet be,found himself 'compelled to oppose it, be cause he was anxious to hare one chance more of having the matter finally extingukheil. He did not impute the smallest blame to the Hon. Gen dew)) who hadlirougl;t forward the first Motion ; on the contrary, he gave him inuCh credit for the temperance mid ability with which 'he had con ducted - the discussion. But his (Mr. Canning's) otin'ion was, that it was expedient for all con cerned, that the House should pass through the business without taking any step. "He: did not deny that the patiende - of the House might he tried to a certain pitch—he would not deny that there might be an occasion - , on which, if there we's prolongatitin oftheee discussions out of doors,, and if an. end was not speedily put to,it, that then some proceeding on the. part of the Bouseimight be necessary, lie did agree that it was not to be.horne, that, after the Minute of Conneil, of 1807 (which was a complete acquittal of the Princess of Wales)l any proceeding should take place in which the innocence of her . R o y a l Highness was' called in question. BUt so }long as the guilt of the Princess of Wales was not avowed, it was not neces4ary fOr the House to take tiny step on the subject, whielh might lead to unforeseen con sequences. The motionlor 'calling Printers to the Itar of the Hotee did not involve in it all , hose tonsequences which might ensue from it. In'the ease of any contumely on the part of the persons so called to the Bar of The Hnuse, consequences might follow which would lead to a series of intermediate proceedings, which might even ,clash with the future measures of the Houie.--.- These were the grounds on which he opposed the motion of the Honourable Gentleman ; and he should not trouble the house further at that time, but for an allusion Which had:been 'made to some transactions in which been con; cerued. The lion. Gentleinan had said; that degree of responsibility rested with alttliose who had signed the Cabinet Minute of :1807. He (Mr. Canning) had been completely consistent from the eommeneement of the business in 1807. He had / all along raised his voice in protestation and in supplication against printing any of these documents, contending that it-was vain' to print with time hope of afterwards suppressing. Ile had always said, that if you print yeu publish;" he was confirmed' in that opiniOn, front litfineedote of Lord Bolingbroke: That Nobleman entrusted a.i . paniphlet to Pope ,which was to been' printed, and, all the copies 'to ise'lleitrOyed . ex cept one ; but after the death . of Mr.-Pope 1,500 copies. were found locked up in his repositories: That anecdote was a complete proof of the justice of : his assertion ; for there ,could not exist be tween -men. a more...sincere friendship than that which existed between Pope and Bolingbroke. He remembered, that with such an impression on his mind, 'when " The Book," aft it Was was published, and when lie, among others, re- Ceived a eon', he returned it . witWa note to 'this purpose I have. received' the. Book*, and am very sorry that it has been printed. lam ton. 'viueed that it will come before the public at softie future 'period ; but inn determined that 'it shall not be,from my copy, so I now return it unopen ed.''—He had always considered time Minute of Council, of . 1807, to be ,a complete acquittal of the Princess of Wales : and he was satisfied that every person who had signed it, did so under the conviction of her being at .that time innocent.• But he was not the man to say that any acquittal, however ample, should interfere with the ',nines tic noneerus of 'the Royal Fti,mily. When hg viewed the situation into which matters were then, brought, he conceived that every chance had not been taken, which might. have been to avoid what had happened. .ITad he been one of the advisers of the Prince Regent,. when he took upon himself the functioni of Regent, he would have advised him to take some reconciliatory mea, sure.' Had' this been recommended, he thought that it would xtot have been found impracticable. ' The Illustrious Female, however had been placed. in a situation of aggravated diffi cu lty. I t wav-said that she had baadviao',.- but it was to be recollected, that she was not allowed' to have Consols -- ..~ Priocebs 111 Wales would not have suffered from lier Royal Highness preserving silence while she was excluded from the Royal presence.. In that state of things, from the best judgment which the advisers of the Princess of Wales could form they gave it as their opinion that it was highly expedient 'and proper that the public should bein possession of a statement of the case. ' The Publi cation s% tide was intended to have come forth, known by the name of " Book," was norin tended as a.crimination of any 3ndivitinal, but to make the innocence of the Princess of Wales ap parent. By the proposed publication -it , was not intended to derogate in the. slightest degree front the character of the Princess of Wales quite the reverse. The only alternative which appeared to be left: was, to put the public in post session of the whole evidence. Fur his own part, nothing could be further from his intention than to derogate from the character and reputation of her Royal Highness; and he could not iinpute to any t)f the other advisers of her Royal High ness that which, was never his own intentions. When the object of her Royal Highness beiog declared "innocent was attained, by her being admitted to the Royal pretence, all intention of the publication of t% The Book " was uhaution ed, This was done with so much secresy, that hi himself was never trusted with a single document, And the whole remained locked up in the press of kris ,deeeased friend. Having thus suited the mo - tires which bud -led- to the advice given to i the Princess of Wales, he conceived that he had done that which Was his b,mnden duty, - in justice to himself and to his deceased friend. He could not understand for what reason the publicatioi of the evidences htul been Called a libel. Supposing it to have been a libel, lie, from his intention of publi , ,liing them, had been guilty of a libel, nay, the Princess of Wales, in sanctioning that intend ed pubileatioo, had been guilty of a libel against ttcl If But how could it be called a libel ? In stead of a eondeinnation, it was intended to have barn a vindication. Mr. "I it delivered his sentiments at Nome length ; and after some observations on the svp , ! ',wed new inquiry, expressed a wish to have the rrinter of the Docnruents culled to the Bur, proper advisers. Every , Member of the_, loyal Family 'tad a right to the advice of his Majesty's ; Ilfinisters, and if that attvice *as refused, the re -1 sponsibility of itoty bad advice lay at the doors of the refusers. • Mr. WHITBREAD said a few words it reply to . . Lord Castlereagh and Mr. Canning. The question being put, the motion' of Mr. TIERNTY was negatived=withont a division. Adjourned at Twelve o'clOck. • MAILS. Anitivtp-1 Wateffora. DUE-1 Gotteukiurgh, i Dublin, - 1 Waterford, PRICE (W STOCKS TIfI DAV AT TIVELXI: .stil 59 . . TIIE If) 1.%11 QPIA MCKIM .At! REAT ? L 0 N 1 . ) 0 N, THURSDAY, MARCH 18, 1813. It is said that transports are immediately to be sent to the Baltic to► convey the Swedish troops over to Pomerania, and our Portsmouth lei ter of to-day states, that the transports in that 'harbour have ' , et.) or tiered roundt to Yarmouth. An Piriccr, w • *;. fist AcriNeil from Prussia, state ., ;,` that the: e lietweett the Emperor of Ituqsin. and the 7. ( .1, ! , :0f PRUSSIA, is to be held at Breslau, and that the 'former is on his way thther. 13ourtern battalions of' Prussians are said to blve been faised-in the short interval of ten days, in the vicinity of Colberg. Admiral G. Horg is appointed Cotumarder-in Chief of the Baltic fleet. It has beep reported that Lord WALPoLit was the state-prisoner said lo have been confined in Uerniany by order of BUONAPAIITE. This report is unfounded, Ilk Lordship, when.he last wrote, wars' at IVolkersdorf, in the ,neighbourhood of Vienna, SECOND EDITION. SUN-OFFICE, RALV PAST TWO O'CLOPIC. A private ' letter reoeived this morning, dated Heligoland, the 12th inst. and bought by a4iing's cutter, (there 'having been no packet at the island), gives the following intelligence : ic ►l•lhat the Rnssiana under !iv rusot r have reached Dresden in great Nree. " That a corps-of Cossacks' ire. ,at Wittenbourg arr the, Elbe, and thatthe Prussians under Gene ral D'YouCa..areadvanCing" in the same line. "That the French have finally evacuated . Ham burgh, where a' small Danish" force has been called by the lienathrs to keep the , populace quiet. ." That 80Q French are at Cuxhaven, t%here they have loaded the gunboats with plunder, with a view' of getting, off with it coastwise, being afraid of carryingit off by land, on account of the Pea. gantry being every Where nl l . in arms against tt " It is understood that Austria has declared herself a Mediator for a General Peace, and has signified to the French Government that their armies must retire behind the Rhine, as a preli minary step to negociatiOn. " General D'Yoacxls General in Chief of the Prussian armies. " Several boats had Arrived from the Elbe and Eider, bringing continental newTaper's to the 9th instant, from which the above intelligence is extricted." We have also been favoured with the following extracts from the foreign papers : • PROM THE 'ALTONA' lodERCVEY, MARCH J. DRESDEN, FEB. 25.—The Russians arc ad vancing in force from the frontiers of Austria to-wards Wittembourg. In consequence of this intelligence, the Prince and - Princesses are gone to Bareukii the Princess ELIZABETH re mains here. his Majesty the Xing has, for a time, repaired to Plauen, in the Voightland. The Go vernment is carried on by a Commission consisttng of four Ministers of State. PROISI TUB BRESLAU GAZETTE. ,Waasaw, Fin. 15.h_T!►e Imperial Russian army has occupied the whole country about War saw, but the barriers are still in the possession of the National Guards. The Magistrates remain' as usual in their places. His Excellency General llitt.T.Attanovymn„ on , the. 9th inst. rode•with a great retinue through the town. Hamburgh, as we have stated above, is eva cuated by the French. The insurrection there is confirmed, and insurrections prevail in many parts of Germany and Holland. 'rhe gessians Were in possession a Berlin on the sth inst. JUNE 21, 1806. Earl SPENCER. P.H SCI , South . m7 .PS MUltiv-ciinnrt, LONDON: Printed 11 THOMAS tVoOD, Of No. - Strand; stud Published by WILLIAM' ARMIt At the Sul; ,t)reice, , No. 112, Stroud, 'tvi:ere Ativertifementv, Orders f o r the P aper , Leiters' fur the Editor s C. (p. t in pa! d ad:Gr ) , mu st be enor a(l4lresstl, FARTHER - PAPARI • ~ RI:LATINA TO , . THE PRINtESS OF WALLS, troth hit, Itt INF, - LORD,—In consequence of certain oil ries directed 'by his Majesty , Lady Douslssi° of Sir, John Douglas, of the Marines ' la , dee upon cyath, that she was told by berllorl 16 ness the Princess of Wales, that at a broil Lady &c --(Extract Laity Douglas's Demi Willoughby to Willoughby's house, in' bitty orloti, It being material to ascertain , as f 4,31/ the truth at this fact, ,I atn to;reqnest ost Lordship will hive the goodness to des:re, ~ 'Willoughby stance in any- manner. relatite thereto, 01° such there he,) of which her Lady' l' 4 1 ; recollection ; and also to a pprise tne, for b ; ! cr i put clown in writing every 1 jesty's information, whether at say lime l ' l , the course of the above-atentioncit yem„. t Princess's shape, or any other circtatoi!,:tli might induce her Ladyship to belito lb I oykil Highness was then pregnant. observed any such alteretionlP I am, &c. • srs o - • , Sidln 0 tab / °i Igne CO' EAR LORD,---1 . 11 011ediel ke MY n to I° 6 /), our of _m__a_l_lets. Host no time in comnainicOak.t:ri,i Wdloughby the important sUbjere ° 1 : ) ::,,0 A 4 enclosing a letter to yaw l • letter,,l dated the 20th instant, 1101'"'ootvm Lady Willoughby. I have the ho out a 11 .0 Goplll, 7 . ...................... - n 7 ..,,pii twined in your Lordship's letter cnintn6l)oio, me by Lord Gwydir, I have the holiourtrai ‘• Ty LoRD,--In obedience to the coon y_cnt, that I have no recollection ivinite:epti fact stated to hive taken place, dull" n ot t o her Royal at Whitehall, in May or June 18" f ;i t bear in mind any particular circutostailvigt period to which you allude. to khave the 1100 04 lirtiM u n Highness the Princess d MY LaRD,...—I immediately colnall!li.cd Lady Willoughby the Queries transotil,t, in the envelope of a letter dated J 111 ,, , ' _I had the honour to receive 1, 0 ,11 Lordship. I return the Qtlerie9 W it° i f jpg loughbrs Answers in her ownbstut-wrp,' _ We are both truly sensible of r t t i t tl i n iii kind attention in not retiniringlA d Y personal attendanc e ': She will n l ° l r ; the order of the Cou nc il, should b e ' . L e' come necessary. .1 ha v3 the honour, ,0-,04 To Earl Spencer, &e. &c. &a. A true COpy. J. 4BECKRT. 2. Has her Ladyship any recollection of the circumstance of her Royal Highilesi having retired From the com pany at such breakfast or .dinner, on , itccount, or wider pretence of having 'spilt any thing over her handkerchief ? And if so, did Lady Willoughby .atend her Royal Highness on that occasion ? And what then passed between them relative to that circumstance ? 40 1 , in tbe 4 / kit C 'C4S- of fri t i 4.014 frequent!- honour t 0 - dine as 1) —_, e Langley, .1a li.ilt:',o Royal kileittest; have beep ats 41! 'in the noPtllli 01 or June, ISP di the periods l it ' i 0 had the hoo,?ta P li 11 1 c,ciiing her, I , i ` c precise tecolittor: 11011 .44 .Iterßoya/ 0116' riug et toy tiole iron) tile cornpifil attVbiteol or 0 1 leY, tinder the e. ofaaviog spilt 051 (war her litiodie 3. To (belifo remerobooce 1 l 'PP6rtuoitier Or ,at,bc Priocesi of* "e Year 180)10'Y not reottlect PI !erveti ' any rid ciretiihstfaices to her Bprilliie appearou.ce, • I:_,: p ß i ptie c) iti c tdri F t l iy r 3 ity g wl t ls . til t a f e t liaa l tit t ee bi l l etpar l s ilt l a ay. i e d e itoeop eii s t afa r r , i rgiiesriwii:luigniyiloasicnttaltdptheoeielismeciTeislsis:cieetiio.el:atitivalinitii that en, ' hiaP op portunities, ins the year, observe the Princess of Wales was pregnant ) 4. Is LadyWiljough 4 - 1 34 " i14 bnctitinted with an; year ' s I I :. 4v eg l other circurastan CO lea- honour 40,194 'ing to the same con- Princess °:',1,011 elusion, or tending to not hear '" jr"i estabilih the fact of a gie instance:, r il criminal intercourse, or 31 fliglillet.4o'o,,,; :t i I t loe i v i ,sesel what l o alb p na e itr her. aa fi uri t i ey n 0 1 i y l i: i r l i t I , g b ;e l : ii::,iivoicdiveartoeteili;.,4 sou whateveLirt°iehear?t!dPeli-f ieciit!:iiib.i4l,t!t63l:l:iii,lati,gliti)eiti , Llt l4 I, tlO 5 41 41 Rosc r t e illi A ct l a :e i ll inc a g ieta t i l , t isw i ß.n. n 3r icga G . : l l , ,se l n i: ::. l no ' a l asn t i i h ti e l_s : v e pniti ;o : ::: : ::e lib : t di c i q rt l y il ic ir l ig t 9 ab) l i o ° l , ::;:t: : :; o it : li i t tt : : l l: l; ,ei nisi: ~,......„..."/ ton's Fishing- a li P o P u r s ° e P , r A b4 r t t e i tite°iallblzelltje fl ':%iiii l nier , &c. will be submitted to the. tit q ,A sold without reserve, on Sataoll oeY KING and Loctizes,' giarstr,eefol4o '. Also, a Subicription Copy of . QUERIVI. 1. Does - Lady %Vil - remember see ingithe PrineessOfiVales at breakfast or dinner at her house, either at Whitehall or Boater).- ham; on our about the months of May or June , 1 tso g, ? \, F~