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Greet 114;teiri PTO trein t, MP 11/•4/10.1 UP444•01,414ft1 to t 5/e taa , e, -1.1 1.. he 1 -..11 e I XTe/urth. were 11.eo ...tiered to bt it , asent s e.l of el.- r iv.n.r t made en j e•torlo.114 for the err, lora of the ttnr acd N.t•t, and out •f the Cash. 41.114.1 Fund, for the team Mt, 4, cud 5. the nefi on Sugar 801, the Gen., Sal Vklefelt•t!thig 8, 1 1. t h e ROI to. • !owl 4 1 ( the 14•141flatio• ..f tees Irelan 1, the E• e oct i;ounly 11 1 1. ileA tire Malts ae Giara!heels..ele B,lt . went throu g h Cons• pittrit, tdi weer twitted t/ ift4llo , row. TMs e.mthothme on the Bill !Jr terulathog the Office of 1114/11141' Gemmel of the Custoeit, *as dilated thl 51.ouJay. I.TSTEII3' LILL. Mr. VANSIT l'A a E moved the postponement of the Committee oil the Maltsters' Bill to Mondry. Mt - . BAKER sail, that he regretted the discus sion of the Bill war likely to meet with any delay, at it WIC of coosiderable insoorteno• ; and sevrisil Geothimen; who iiitended to take a part in it, o an. tie he ertzag-d h Nin the /11114111.111. , 5it./1.8. !tlr. VANeIITTARI" said. he should be sorry V t'oe delay should be prociutflore of any incon venience, but i 7 W4l rendered uee sssss y by some reiltiote alterations. Mr. T. JONI ES hoped it would not be delayed berm: Monday near its tepresent.ttiors were made Trim t-om v erinus quarters of the contry, of the Obsettl-d state of that trade at present. lift. VA NA. 1 TART informed him, that a Treasoreftrder had been made to continue the pre treat nigniatitmis. till some provision should be made Pariiaresem. Mr. YORES expressed some &TIM of the right Of the Trot 'envy f.n Interfere in this instance. Mr. VA:SIM 1 I'ART explained, that in such Mee, this had Isetto the Crlflbtallt pr:talett of the Treion:y fir triany rears. Mr. PLO A ER did iiht consider this a eatisfaAory oLO:ovation. irealury variants were also defended before Mr. Vansittart was a Member of that House, or perhaps born, upon the ground of long prat:lice ; bet it did not follow from that, that it was a proper eejocifiehle proceeding. PisComminee was then deferred till to-mon ow. Clete APSI,) hT VINCENT'S LOAN. A B:11 was brought in lot vosting in certain mum, a.* sale of prnpetty beintigiug to the house of MoDowall and Co. for the re-payment of ad. vances made to them by Govertmlent ; which being Brad a first tim.— Mr. BAKER took a view of the whole of the eransaflion, observing, that in consequence of the calamities which occurred in the islands of Grenada and St. Vmet rtes, It, 1800, an AA of Parliament was passed, to enable Government to make certain ad vances to the met chants and planters of these islands, on sofficient security being given for the re-pay. Tel •nt. Of dd. to 'grey. the sum of 240,0001. had been advanced to the Gat!emea in question ; and Votly applications since made to Pat liament, to ex. mod the time cl the re-payment. It seemed that this money, intact 1 of being employed in the man. ner proposed, had been laid out for other purposes in Scotloso:; and he thought that the outstanding of the debt to this time, was.highly criminal id some vanes it roller, M.LR/WALL. requested the permission of the House to explain, that ever since the year MD, when this loan was made. he used every pus. Bible esersiots to repay this debt to govern:nen?. He had ample fonds, not only for paying that, bet every °Com deoattod upon this firm ; but in all his eforts to dispost of the great property he possessed in Scotland, he was, for some reason or other, coo. somay thwarted and impeded by the first low oft. cera of the Crown, in Soeland, under the late Ga. vernment. Even at this moment he had a property of 160,001. floating in Scotland, which, for the reil $Olll 41r.4.1y mentioned, he could not avail him' df of. He was 411•11', that his own flotsam and oho raAer reqiinted a lull explanation of the whole of themistoloaaSiods being made to the House and the Coeiney ; and, however reluctant lie may be, on some ammo's, to make such a disclosure, he owed it to himself to afford it is a proper stage of the Bill. The foundatano of the present Bill was, to permit him, by hie own ennsen•, to dispose, through the medium of Trustees, of that property whiih %could costly him to dischazge the debts due to the poise and the odor creator to his house. :he A 1' EORNEY-GENERAL explained, that when lie came into his present official situation, he found ;los large deist duo to Government, sod fur the le tor and more speedy teens cry of it, he wished to have the eat* of die property vested la trustees, which was the whole objeA of this Bill. Mr. It. IJUNDAS sa.e. lie did nut mean to op pose the Bili, or controvert the realer ;sari esf what was said by los licetninable Friend ( Mr. I .kl*Dlwall) but be thestrght it hat .1, that the late Law OZlCeri of Scotland should be set raigned for their condtid, be. fore the w;iole of the proceedings should be before the House. •- til u.M~ Me. ,vt.I,IOWALL sail. what he had principally to requis; WAS. :hat the House would suspend us judgment till they should be in complete po ion of the *Lob.. frees documents •.:hich he shoul 1 At any time by ureparan to lay brier. them. Mr. JOHXSTONE. said. that no:withstanding this Bill fiir vesting the sale in trustees, he hoped the present securities for the debt would not be released un 4:count of airy diErence nt opinion betstecri the late and present LAW (Meer& of the Crown in Scothind. • Mr. FRANCIS said, he nhjt(ed to the principle of these loans irii;inally ; dn.: the pre sent Rill was )1. a proof that such advances of snon:y to individ ua l s a. • ravre opt within the p.oper tonetions of th e Cinvi.rn ii men,. - 3 The Bill was then read a Cut, and ordered Lobe read a second time to-nun row. Mr. BAN reporto.l the Bar, that he had been to the Ii -use or Lords to cnnterrnce -• on the subj. 4 of the Report of tLr Corrinin• re ea .• 03 Yrecud,..t., no Lord Teignmouth's esairsonistiess • and thaL they had Appointed five I.'clo.k this ma. iig f,r inAraging the b..toc Upon whir the 11.41. e appoi .ted a Crnoniitree to insuatc the said deresne. 1.11. itO3IIOIISE wished to observe to the House. that to the great nuniber of rolls lately sent up to •the Le:Js, a 11l i l t•it 114 d Al ista .n Go; Ames Divorce Rill, w in:h dud accia.maily gram %ithotot L ass ug through this Hnnsr. Ile t;:en moved, ac cordin to pr.:cirdar.t. in soch cases, that a Message shou4l be sent to the Lords, letrilling tlie.n to to tar e:. 11.‘ K & R olsserved. that as there were, foe scwir toile so saaay istegular ChAirnarn of d i ke COinitiktili of that . H..ato., 9l7ite was no re.st wonder In the occurrence of such Mistakes es the present: Mr. VOBHOUSE explaintd, that he only offi ciated io the absence cf an Hon. Gentleman (,sit. Alexandet), who was a Ipte employed in ireparing fot a voyage to another country, and that v hen he happened not to be present, another. lion. Member ( Mr. Hawthorne) WAS kind enough to undettake the of6ce. But he sitsre,!ted that he himself had, Elvin:o hurry, committed the mistake. The 11:1060:1 was then agrrcd to. GRAIN IN I'ENQoURSE 1:11.L. Sir J. NEWPORT nv.ved the tattier of the day (or the third reading of this Bill. Mr. FOSTER considered the }l,ll as brought forward in et crude and undigested manner; an d stid, that leave fur hrifixing it in was nOtainrd ia a veir thin house, and by a vet y small majority. Fie did not think it applicablr to the Irish minket , ; and while he foresaw many of the injurious 'IL:4i it may produce, he could conceive no pt ssible benefit which could he derived tram it. Sir JOHN NEWPORT replied, that he !bought it unnecessary to detain the Mute by se-stating the arearnehts he had aAvanced in favour of the lull, in its former stages. While a free intercourse of grain subsisted between Great Britain and lielend, it proved advantaeeous to both countries ; an' he was not aware of any passible mischief the Bill could produce between this and the rim session of Parlia ment. The Bill. instead of being preeipitaTed, had been before the House some weeks, and since that time, he had received letters in its favour, from Cork. Limerick, IVaterford, Belfast, and some other places. The Bill was then read a thind time and passed. N tat,* uF K<COTS DEBTS. On the third reading of this Bill—Mr. RYDF.r.. proposed an amendment to sine of toe clauses, th: objet; of which Was, that the Commissioners for the examination of the claims, should report Cie ;nis i -vets they might make in the execution of the trust reposed in them, and also the grounds upon which they had matte ally deci..iou. Lord H. PE I' L Y said, that on re-consideration he was not disposed to °Nee/ to the ..reendnient, if it would not ge to invalidate the agreements made by the Commissioners. Mr. Vs'INDHAM did not think that House should bind itself to any agreement made by the Commissioners. Mr. PERCIVAL ronsid:red the motion to he liable to many o r butts. The Commissioners stood esadly in the light of arbitrators between the creditors and the East India Company, under a de cree of Parliament. That House may disagree with the idd i rment of the Commissioners, whether the motives tor :heir decision should be right or wrong. The claims for such 4 sum as five or six millions muse be very nuatzrous, and it would be extremely inconvenient fiir that Hance to examine the whole of the evii:ence in all the cases. It may indeed be right for them to make such a report, as would chew that they did not sleep upon their dui* nit by calling for the grounds at their decisions, he was afraid the House would make itself a party to them. Mr. FRANCIS saw, that a Bill which WAS to dispose of 5,600,0001. so far tram bemg a private one, WAS of the greatest public interest. For him self, he would take no part in it at all, as he did not think the Parliament should be a party to any such agreemeots. He would oppose it i.r tole, and would not consent that the House of Commons should give its saation to claims, of which a highly tespedtble Cnairtnau of the Court of Direetors„ had declared, in his seat, time-fourths to be Ulm de mands, and that it would be estraordinaxy if even that fourth should be estaidished. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, the clause alluded to did not proceed from any distrust of the Commivioners, but was thought to be one which most be desirable even to themselves. Though the parties were the creditors, and the East India Com pany the debtuts, yet it was a public measure ; for if it was of a private nature, why come to Parlia ment at all ? He thought, Also, that the different debts may becl a s se d, so d he grounds of the deci sion laid before the House, without repeating the whole of the evidence. Mr. ROSF:th;;;It, that if the Commissioners were, as he believed them to be, fit and competent persons to inquire, the decision must ha safer in their hands, than in thou of the: . assembly. Hf dis approved of the whole of the claim, as the House could not possibly examine itself, and decide upon ad of the cases, And should not, therefore, give its sandion to the validity of any of the debts. • Isle. 3HE AIDAN said, that it he approved of the Rill at all, be should not obje:t to the Amendment. It was not lit that the East India Company should dispose of such a sum as five or six millions of RIO. ney, without the concuirence of Parliament. If the claims were Allowed, it may not be the Company, but the public, that would have to pay them, as the public was the great creditor of the Conyany, :4114 had a right, it possible, to secure itself. tie Anien.l. tiscra was en improper one, unless the 1-I,usl was disposed to revise and retry very many of the cases ; for those whose claims had been iojened, might come to that Hattie and complain of itius tice; and if so, he did not see, how, consistently with this principle, they could refuse to hear them. It the present Commissioners were unfit persons, others should be appointed to teplace mem ; and, nhoever they may be, he thought their skcisiini should be final. Vi -count CASTLEREAGH was also for leasing t'.e /hole in the hands at the Commissioucrs. The I louse should not give axy additional validity to the clauns, nor make itself a Court of Appeal. If it did, the cousequerice would be to have the table 01 the (louse clvered with amass Lit useless papers. Mr. SHERIDAN again observed, that it the 'louse 'larded the Commissiniars to report the gri.unds on which they decided, it must be either tool the purpose of 'seising them, or to gratify an idle cut iosit y. Mr. GRANT said, there could be no uncertainty in the business nt the Camtroc.i.)..ers, When suers all men at nigb sham:ter and limmut, and were bound to decide upon oath. 'Phis agreement Was not of a novel SWUM ' as it Was contiumable in the pradice observed us the wnule set the Last Midis Goveiu ni.nt. Atter a few 'nose observat:oas frum:Lottl Archi- . . haid Htmil•nr., Mr. keia, Mr. Martin, and Mr. W. Sixbith.— Mr. RY1.1 . 2.h. idhsclued In withdraw his award ment. Mr JOT - INS I ON F. moved, as an amendment; that none lathe Cot initionnen ba apr.,:inted fe.r invest .sting these el.:in - is, bhc.ild be mellbers ut that House t but that this exempt:on rot extend to those who had been Alse3.ly A v p,,inted ; li , ch, atter some observations, was witlitlr4wo, and the Will read a thin! iime, and pns cd. 'TREASURER OF TIIE N , ‘VT. Mr. WHLTbREAD lose. in piosmtnee of the notice he had given. It had been his itoenti , 4l, he said, to wove for leave to bring in a hill fot the Setter regulation of the Office of Treasurer td the Navy, but the pet iod of the session was st. "sr ad vanced, that he found it necessary to decline sloiog so at present. He felt it to be his duty, howevt to state, that from a reference to the Lords' Jour nals, it appeared, from the opinion cl eleven out of the twelve Judges, that the poWic have no hold on those who have the expenditure of such 1M111C11 , 2 WM:44 public money, as trust pass into and through the hands of such oftkers as the Treasurer of the Navy ; and, therefore, he thought it was highly necessary the law should be altered, and that that had been laid down • by the Learticd Judges, should either be declared to be ;or if not that, it should be wiled and ascertained, what was adualiv the law sat On that sti!jr at. Wan regard to the YSth of the Kmg..t alyeare.l. irons the opinions of die Learned Judgeo that the pub lic have all along been under a very gross delusion sespeding that ad, for they always CollCtiVed, that the a" was made for the express purpose of pre• venting the Treasurer of the Navy trona employing to his own use and advantage, any of the vast sums entrusted to his care for Naval purposes, or hunt permitting persons aditig under him, so to employ the public n iiiii ey. It appeared, however, from the opinions of the Judges, that ',imams employed under the Treasurer ci! the Navy. may employ the public money to anyamouot, to their own advantage, provided they make up the same before it is wanted. He theta read, front the Report, the question put to the Learned judg , s, AILt their answer to the same, (whits have already appeared in our Paper, An the report, 0/k searching the Lords'lsurnals.) He hoped his Right Hon. Friend ne sr him (Ur. Sheridan) who now filled that important office, would make • such regulations, as should prevent any pradices being resorted to between this time and the meeting of Parliament in the next sess.on, and that as eatly as possible after that, the House would take the subject into their serious consider: • . He would not, therefore, trouble the House with any thing fur• ther on the so, jeel, than to submit to them a motion, .•• that the House will early in the nts! session of Parliament take into their most serious consideration the as of the 95th Geo. 111. entitled, An Aa for better regulating the office of Treasurer of the Nary." On the question being put, Mr. LEICESTER said, he did not rise to oppose the motion, but to make a few obset vatiens on some parts of whot had been said by the Hon. Grntle man who brought it forward. The Hun. Gentle man seemed to suppose the Judges had sail, that embezzlement of the visite money WAS no criminal offence; but that was not the ease. If he only mea;:t to say, that persons taking public money fur temporary sues, and refunding i: befare it was wanted, in that case it was certainly no of fence, and that was all that the learned Judie: had said on the subjea. !qr. mrlitrtEAD said, the Hon. Gentleman had put a word l;:to his mouth v.. 1 cgs he never made use of. He had never men:it:wed the word embezzlement. The at he had alluded to expressly declared, that money should not be taken trans the Bank by the Treasurer of the Navy, for any other than naval purposes, and if a new law was to be famed on the subject, his great Ji would be to bud words stronger and more binding than those contained in the ant alluded to. If this be law, which the Judges nave delivered :a such, let it be declared to be so ; if not, it is necessary and tight that a lAN should be made expressly on the subject. By this opinion of the learned Judges, he under stood many tat their Loodships had been guided. as to their decision, itt the acquittal ni Lmsl on mane parts of the charges; and though he meant not the smallest disrespe.ft to the opinions of the Judges, yet as their opinions were not infallible, and A case had hen yesteiday decided in dii ea opposi liJel to the opinions of the Judges, and had i:Actehy the same, he thi.u . 4l,t that House could not be too speedy iu set:liog the Law decidedly On this stable& Mr. SHERIDAN said, that•after the opinions of the Judges, lie thought it highly necessary some regulation should cal: , place Ole the subja.. It was, in Isis opinion, extremely against the spirit of the Aa, that the Paymaster should hare power to take money from the Bar-Ai, which WAS lodged there expte.sly for naval purpose-, and apply such mosey to his own private use and advantage. The lunette was now altered, and had been Irons the time his Right Hon. Frtend rear him (Mr. Tier ney) came into that office ; and it was somewhat etc tlaurdinat y, that this alterat,is was frCOMfileistleol to his Right lion. Fiiend, by Mr. Trotter hanselt. Mr. V t II PIIR expla;ned. Mr. FULLER telt:ate, his former sentiments, respeaine the ex e soces tat the trial lit Viscou...; Mel ville, and hoped they wfm'...l. be allowed Inns Out of the public purse. Aim a new woaJs from Mr. PERCIVAL, the minion was agreed to. Mr. HOlisiOUilf. reported from the Bar, that 1w had waited on the Lands with the Message re. :petting Gordon's Divorce Ilia, and that be bad brought back the said Bill. Mr. R. DUN DAS said, that seeing a Noble Lord in his place, he ma:l beg leave to ask him a ques tion. The Noble Lord had, early in the session, expressed his intention of bri•-ning in a bell for the better Regulation and Eneruragent,ott of the Fishe ries on the Norther - it Coasts. He wished to know whether he intended to baths forward such a mea sure in the course of the ;anent session? Larl TEbieut answered, that such bad been his intention, and it was a matter he had very much at hearts bet be found it would Le impossible to .1.) any thing eirraval in is sfuring the present me :ion. I.lz plzstge4 liussvver, in case be r. ~could hold his present office in the nest session, t o bring the measure forward in the earliest Part of it. Lord 4HENRY PE r rir said, he had given n., tice of a motion to compensate the Commi , sio ners I'M- the Redemption of the Land fie, with respett• to Church Livings ; bur, as it must originate in a time for it, at this late per io d o : the n Cr l rn i m ir) i . r v tee be cf the whole House, a.id As thrie 14tl id session, he would, for the present, rfostpone it, azd bring it forward in an early period of the act: Session. ROYAL DUKEi' ANNUITY ntere Lord H. Pbl Y moved, ". that the Royal Dales' Annuity Bill be now lead a second time." On the question being put, Col. WOOD said, he felt it his duty to °Neel es this Bill. He then repeated the arguments he had died ageiest it a few eights ago, and thought tlis an unnecessary expenditure of the public The Noble Lord, in bringing forwerd the measure, had stated, as one of his chief reasons fur COI; so, the great increase whie's had taken pliee in ad the necessaries of life, since these ptuvisions wife originally made. He allowed t11;11 to be the ego s but these Royal Personages only felt the pressu re it: common with °theta, and that pressure was most severe on the great mass of the people, who wer e nearly borne down by taxer. lie said, lie verily b e . tiered, that if he were t.' ask Monsieur Talleyraad, t:se Prime Minister of Bonaparte, what mode he thought would be best to be pursued, in order to throw this country into the grasp and doninnii!re his master, he would say. it was to make eit peo. pie dissatisfied with their Government—make them dissatisfied with their taxes, and the people would be ready to throw themselves into the arms of B. napatte. Thiaae Noble Dukes held many places and emoluments, besides their original estebli,t► ments of 12,0001. a year; and to make this additien to the public burdens, would, he thought, be one of the surest methods of making the people satisfied ! and that at a moment when he would Scl viee the Noble Lord to exert hie every facuhy and ability, to nuke retrenchments, rather than add Co the public burdens. He thought this measure ought to have been introduced by the Noble Lord before a secret, ur a 'cleft Committee, rather than by this mode ; and that Committee mie I t hive made in quiries, which would have enabled them to jedge, and to inform the Hance, whether this increase was aelually necessary. As it now stood, he must nbjeet to the Bid. Mr. W. SMITH said, his Noble Friend, he was sere, del not stand in need of the letture given him by the Hon. Gentleman who had just set down; for he WAS convinced the Noble Lord was inclined, from the genuine impulse of his own mind, to use every degree of Iszonumy that was possible, in the expenditure of the public money. With regard to the measure itself, he was in acme degree of the same opinion as the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last; and he was so, in a great measure, from what had fallen from his Noble Friend. who had sttteii, on bringing forward the measure, That the Iluke of York, much, he (Mr. Smith) thought, us his ho nour, had refused to accept any increase ot his es tablishment. If the House were to proceed alone on the argument *lithe increase of the necesiai ies of he could hive objetti .n to this increase of the original provision ; but there•w ere ouser considera tions on this subjeil ; and it should be tecolleded, that these Noble Dukes have offices anal eueolumente which greatly add to their original esteelishineats. He had, a few nights since, moved for an Aceoure of those emoluments, and he though: the House could not proceed in the measure till those Accounts were laid before them, and it would then be seen how much they now received in addition to their 13,0001. a year. The only question was, whether such an addition, as he was speaking of, would tend to increase the respell of the country towards these Noble Personages ? He took it. the House was not ripe for discussion of the subject, till the papers he had moved for be laid before them. Toe situation of his Noble Friend was peculiarly difficult, and co Member should make en attack on lain fur too lavish an expenditure of the public money, because it must be evident, that in bringing forward the pre sent measure, be ailed only in an official cepecity, and it was the duty of his situation to do it. Colonel WOOD explained. Mr. ROSE said, it was right to augment those incomes, or it was not ; if it was right, considering bow much the value of money was depreciated, be thought the addition WAS as little as possible. Mr. W. SMITH explained. Lord H. PETTY said, the only question before the House, at present, was, whether they should ap ply that principle of ceconomy (which had been so strongly recommended, and which was unquestion ably highly necessary) so strictly, as to deny those Royal Personages that conudenttion which has been given to all Public Offic-rs having salaries. and which salaries hare all, from time to time, beta increased, in conseqiience of the great in crease in the price of all the necessaries of life and whether the House will make these illustrious Persons the only ones who shall be pawed by unn3ticed in that respen ? The feel is. it had long been suggested. that Mere would be a necessity to make an inc rease in the provisions originally mails for the support of the younger branches of Ws Royal Family. This had received the decided appr..bee non of the Right Hon. Gentleman who preceded him in the office he then held. He did trot men tion this by way of urging the sanaiun of that Itiglat Hon. Gentleman as it motive wbach had attuetesl him in bringing it forward ; he thought it light and proper s and ail the increase he had made, or those Noble! Personages wished for, was 'itch as would nicer the entire approbation of Oa House. As to the motion of hi. Honourable Friend be hind him (Mr. Willie:lr Smith), lie believed the creel of it would not be sues as to prevent . the House from proceeding with the Bill. Willa nip:l to what his liou. Friend had said of the Doke of York, he agreed with him, that it was highly to his Royal Highness's honeur. to have re fetal any increase; but he was particularly situated, for, by the provision made at.his marriage, leas in come, independent of his emoluments, as Cossiman.l - in Chief, is 26,000. The Bill was then read a second time, and order ed to be committed to-morrow. TIIANKS TIIE VOLUNTEERS. Sir H. MLLDMAY rose, its puisuance of the notice be bad gives, to make his motion reipalog