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I p I IF ►, i' i► ~. ; 1. ~l Powc!l was aC3III in . h.§ , l Irro 1;cr: ' No. Yong woo . ' $l4C3r It ? Yes. I will. thing to me who am &feuding a clear, distiart, known, avow. r.l, and specific Forty, to know who is the party ow the other sole, in order that I may he enabled to fix that party through hi. agents, and in order that I may be abk to make that evi. d..•nce which is not evidence in this rase, unless it come. from the opposite party, or ass 'grist of that opposite party ! If I knew who the party WAS. won coastal f alibi be able tw bring , io a mass of the must material evidence fur my de. tence, namely, declarations, *perches, letters, and aces on the part of that opposite party, which I could do, if I knew him, they, or she, or whatever name it may he of this no. t tangles@ unknown. Rot lam ignorant of its existence, not k lowing the" local habitation or the nave"—not knowing whether it may riot vanish into " airy nothing." lam nut iihle to grapple with it, to thrust tom it, to bring out of it. own mouth Of it has one) that which may operate to support my defence. The rule of law is strong on this point, and sly. the►e Milli be two parties ; here, however, there is but r,ne. We must have another party, my Lords. My Lords, know nothing of this shapeless being— " If shape it might be called, that shape had none, Di.tingnishable io mrrolarr, joint, or lamb, Or nolodasere mizlit he called that shadow airman!, Far each ',reined either. Black it stood as night, Elarce as the furira, terrible sin hell, And shook a do easiful dart : what 'rem( al his head hhc likeness of a kingly crown had on. " j—llut I kn.*• not wltther it ham such nn head; it ris ly be a he and with the semblance only of m shallow or Roy stiolniozliEoo. lam now contending for a sohmlantive ti al ; that I i 1.1 1 ,• a right to put certain questions, mid is clan log 1•11 lon nail by '• You can't put that question tll this :acv 10i.4r. or to itm profe..sril sgentm, lt,:raisme there are the rules of professional conlidenc.• to interpome''—couhtlence repowd in nothing, am we shall must likely fiiitt. Can toy lauds, tlischar;ze any slaty to my Illustrious Client, if I am to lie stopped ill this way ? In auy tither Court I should know who she prosecutor was. The Lord Chatierllor—" I ans xtremely sorry to have to intetropt Coons( I upon any prucerilitigm, lilt it is my duly In point out to lino, that it is intposseb:e to that rpitstion to he put to a persou who is not called in siipport oil ill- Bill, Intl- who is merely called by the !louse to sr. n o fur an "hornet:on of its orders. The nilt'Sli 0000 11111.4 I,r Clll/ 6 / 1 1 , 11 111 that sad to that only, no It ns the Conn- S, I w.•l. to make this witness a witness ill fill( 1, then he may call li.in ~ such." AL i;, ooz oan t -6 1 Will your Lunt.;him allow tne to anz g• .1 an • iu r gut nutnt , namely, how malty wituesett, prevo. to the 11th of S pttne:tet., are here on the p trt of the The I.ooii Clcomillor—" I I pprrhroid the sin••slion emoint L. ..I0 .1, to g. use you have no tight to aAlt lu any thing tA , 1 ,1 I . u !,j, ft now In fore III." Hon , ttuttly of the wittorsows who hid crer rnme over in env was country it r talloott of the ILO, to the Intl of Ih.• ut u. Ii now liJgesn4belief, ha., left toe country brfoo- the 141 h of Septen.lorr ! tlo ft 1.w.1-rdite—Whir is it to Ragielli about the num ber of the sil:.esowx Th. I.'s.' Chancellor-1 apprehend that this is • question th .I.not he rived. Mr i• material, m, Lords, to know what rooolwr of willi,o'es hive generally barn tore who went withiP• , .% to the treatment they receive'', and have aince go•ie lutrk. Lind artument not only fors the f the whlnr.cea, bat it is unlimite d as to what 010010. , or witnemes that may have come from any part of th.• wo.lld. eunlriroit-113t was not the objection of the Noble "'WI! 1.1.11 objection goes no foriher Ilion to Ih 14e •ses, but it goes to all parls of the world. llr Powell again called in and examined by Mr. Brougham. Pr viona to Ractelli being sent back to 'ltaly how many of 01 • tt ItoeNNew, to the knowletlze of nil nr%S. returned to the 16 of Italy? lao not know of any, and to the best of ull t mtr ledge and belief wine. 11 the witue.a unfit-lake to swear that at the time It, t. lli .ca: Sint bark be Aid trot know and lwlit re tkrt any yes-on ab. had been here as a witness bad returned to the not tb of lIAly ? Flail been here: Mtll the witness undertake to swear that to the best of his 1. , f that at the time he sent back K istelli on witness who I. of tweet in the country on this Kill hail been sent bar!: ' T.. the best of my knowledge and belt. f none. Ti.. e,stion relates to witnesses who had been here, and 1.4.! go .er here. ra emitted at all ; will he undertake to swear tie it none of those witnesses whisJosel not been examined le ed g ... • hark to the north of Italy at the time IZastelli was vent 111 Milan ? I know of one permn who was sent over Isere aq a witness having keen vent hark to Italy. I know of ou perms who has been sent hark. I have no recollection of any it, limn who has heen sent over brie havinz been re turned to the north of Italy. If you can slate any thing to knot it to my recollection. There are so many persons that I cannot take upon myself to recollect retry Koine I have never seen. . _ Will he take on himself to swear that ■t the time Rill- Vett4 Fent back no other person employed as a emotion un der the Milan Commission bad ever gone from this country to the north of Italy after the Dover riot, Krous, or any whir person? After the Dover riot, certain' v. The quo stion and answer was ordered to b , read ; when Mr. Gurney canoe to the words, " under the Mil on Commis. M►. Powell said, " You have not got it ' under the Al dun Conomiasim, have yon ? Ido nut say under the Mi -lon Coniusission,for I consider it to have ceased its fonc. lions upon the return of Mr. Cooke sod myself from Italy. We arrived early in t►e moth of Jane 1819, having kit Aldan and ceased to act in March 1919 Ido nut consider myself since to have meted under the Aldan Commission. The question relates as to persons employed as couriers in relation to this Bill—the.ioestiou.relatesas to any per. non employed as courier to go to the north of Italy ? err- Kraus has been sent to that country since the Dover not. Will the wittiest' give us the names of sone of those pen. sous who have so gore backwards and forwards? I know, a, a courier. that Krems has- Wid nut Krona brought ever some of tke witnesses Irons tke north of Italy ? Yes. Hite say other persons gone backwards and forwards since the Dover skit to t►e aurtb of Italy ? Other persons Late gone as cou►iers. Did you know of Kress sad others baring so ►►turned to Ilt%ly after the Dover riot al die time you sent off itasielli did. DiJ you also know of amen oilier persons basing rose ? I dia. I)id you mud any other courier besides Realelli to give information and comfort to the families of the witnesses health.' tlxse whom Kastrlli had heonght nave ? Letters were taken Irons all the witnesses sod sent to Colour! Brown at Milan by othe► couriers besides Ristelli. Did you give any iusirsetions to Kraus when he went out to &bleu to go to the families of the wituesses n. this coun try, to give them asseraweea oldie safety of their frauds ? I du out reeolket. - _ . . _ ..... To whose did Neves take letters? To Colonel Brows. Were ether coarsen pent wit? Yes. Did they receive the same iustractioes as Ratitelli? I be• line Ina • W lip was cut Kroes instrected to go to the families? I du out know that Colored Brown world seed Kraus. I had heard that the families sad fries& of some of she witnesses to this cuentry were dissatisfied and alarmed; the wife of nue of the le II effete was apprehensive of the safety of her 'teemed, sud Itirstelli was instructed to satisfy her and 'Alter/ upon the safely of the witticisms now et maiaing is E..elawd. eau you give the mem aif that iodividpal? It was the wife of ttestelli. Did Coked Brow. soiree to you lies smarty of seed. log Itaosetli to Italy?— The fittleeitoe-Grteealobjrclet l to Au grestioo. The L•aett Chaurellof ur.aitialtafti lODI so, infortlystioil ef Wed ; from Colonel Draw, costal mil be received is mi• dt ace, therebeee the question ought to he struck out. --- 11Ir. Brotegimesaidiorcoly)yol 114. eioghtio. lit "904$ lion of the wit 'a evidespeet The Lord Chouteettutr.As point Of form * 4 lPsideli MP" to he pat throogb sae. Di you not hum" that Ramenl Never saw tbosa midomaao before he bronglit them over? I mood know that. Have you read the missies of these pesceediost I beard them as the evidence Was gives.. Do you not know that Rastelli has sworn that be did, oat know any of the witnesses except by coming over with some of them ? I eaglet's Ivies that port of hie evil/ma May re. collection. [The. part of ltastelli's (videos' dies alluded to was thee read j Did you nut hear the whole of Rastelli's evide,oce ? No, for the people going in and out of the Home, caused such a noise at limes, that I could not hear hear Lim The sends ing of Itastellt to Italy was Not only for the pOrpose of car rying but to ..hew that be, as a vitae'', was safe, and that be might be able to assure the families of the other witnesses that they also were safe. Watt Itastslli then to go round to the familiesof all the witnesses at Milan? Yes, as far as be could, Tiller Calomel Brown's direct ion. How many wiUtes.ea tame over with Itastelli, from the north of ltsty I cannot tell. Col yiiit tell how mat; witnesses ran over from the north of Itsly, in support of this The Attorney General ohjemed to this qlest,ion. 111 r. Brougham said, it was a most simple tine, but be WO not pies* it. I).. VOll know whether ftnitelli remained the whole titre in dos c..uutry after the riot at Dover? lie Vrck to Hula Ilad lw inst siclions to tr,.l to Holland? I believe att. Ihd lie go any where else? Ido not know. Did be go to Milau ? I cannot tell; I gave him so io stritei ions ..to to do. CIO you state Ilse instructions you gave Rastilli ? No, not in roe preci.c words. Dud ltasistli say any thing shoot acid hr would come hack as oiono as lie could he certainly had. instructions to remove the apprcheusions of th e witnesses who art. 1111VW1.1, and 11w falllilirs of those ar,lio pre here. and, to convince them of their mildly and proper treatment ill Oil country. I h.td no motive limos earth to synd Rsatelli away, with a view of keeping him from this country; nor if I 'bought this del:tv would have atisen i cshoutlal I have sent him for soy cousiderat too, as I look upoujoiu testimony to be ..... material, should this Bill go to,the bar of the House of CUIIIIIIOIIII. 14-examinrd by the At torney•Geseral. Di,l'yon not hear her Majesty's Conned say be should Cot call for the cross examinati .... of auy other ',Brien but Ma. joceln ? I Mani Mr. Brougham say so. Vas there any communication made to ruby the Qstern'a Comowl, that they intended to call hack Itlasrelli; for the purpose of again crosa-ex %mining him'. N 6, It there had bran sorb commanteation made, I would not bare sent him colt of the c, notry for any chosiderntion. By the Earl of Donottglowore—Was not Bastelli one of the o lionises at Doter the time of the riot I helmet he was, bat I cannot say. lord Kenyon was of opinion that this was out• evidence, ■s the trims' only spoke from hearsay knowl dice: The Lord Chancellor was of opinion that it waarvitienee. Was Itastelh Btu only witness at Dome •at the lime of the riot, who was a courier ? 1 'anon, say front my WWII know. ledge, as I do not know who were there. The witnes. w.ts then ordered to withdraw. The al r) of Lauderdale moved that the evidesee of Mr. Powell should Ise ;mated separately, for the teamed Woe mation of their Lordships lie conceived it wig is descrip tion of evidesien that might nut to form a part of tbair regu lar prim...dings. Earl Grey naked for the reasons fur this nttiest. Lord FAA ine said, that the object of examisation was to inquire if Mr. Falwell, by tending Bastelli out of the country, contrary to the risk of the Mow, seas or was nut guilty of a contempt of their Lordships Hinson, •nd if be had, that he might be puoinheil fur his offence. Tl.e Earl of lAuilerrlale said, that quOstions tad been put In witnesses which wele illegal, and completety at cuisine,. wish the practice of the Four Courts of Caw ; to which he understood it was the determination of the Hasse to sari milate this proceeding as close as possible. Instead of the House deciding what questions were nr were not proper to he put, the Counsel were appealed to, and asked for their wirier, and some of the Noble Lord* had mimicked the violence of the counsel at the Bar. E 411 Grey said, the expression of the Noble Lord (Lan dc.dile) was highly improper; los charging lie Nimble Lords with tiont;cking the Ciiim.cl et the bar was extremely in decent. He (Earl Gres) would, howrser, Hike rare dewing the whole remise of the proceedings to uvula that extrsor. ',ovary, temperate, and intim tial conduct of the Noble Earl which he had manifested throughout this case. Lord Doming',inure thought the ease *tight. to go in the twin. godly or aol guilty. lie allowed the greatein latitude ought to lw given to her Majesty to prove her inuocence. lie maintained that his .asjesty'a Government were the pro secutors, find that they woold have been vainy of a den-- beton' of their duty if they hail nut stood forward in the mintier the uec required. He dal• not art• how there rould he any delicacy or releetanee in avowing this •mail fully ; but that being the fact, their Lordship* ought to be especially cautious, when so great a power was arrayed uu the one side, to throw 011,0 a dour for the defence as widely as they could. His opi•tion was, that Ihe•exsminatiun of Mr. Powell ought to form a part of the oblates, uul it, in CIO, constituted a must materisl part. The Earl of Carnarvon opposed the motion. ithat fare, Ile asked , would their proceedings wear, if it shonlii be adopted ? It would be this, that they had called a witness to the bar, to ascertain a fact most intimately columned with the procei dings—thnt they had examiweil shim theismelves.s_ called on the Counsel on both sides to take a part in his examination—that they actually did so—hut that after all this, t h ey had come to a rcsolnt ion that the evidence of this witui us made so pion of their own pnweedings, but was a trifling incidental transaction, which each he bud no place among them. The lord Chancellor said, he ahonld not repeat what be bad heard stated shout legal technicalities. It ritd not seem In hint that this examination ought to he winted in the initiates, and he should err: oboe a circumstance which wouhil rewire the printing of it in a separate form mere 4[4111./.IIICIII to the Mouse. He understood that if it wen peialed in the latter music, it would be ready foe delivery to theiv , Lordsbips on Monday morning, but if with lbe other proeeeelings ■t not so early a period. In the course of what had been said that day and yesterday, this was culled 1111 ssromskeua proroedisg, bet ause it was partly judicial and partly - l.gwlmive. Ile ainiutained that it was not an sintinslous proceeding; be cause, that the legislature of this conntry could eel in a jus dicial character was a thing very well , kaoase, sod it Ire queutly had united boils fnuebiatia. He lbointht ilea aurae nutlet &Wald be taken of that intemperate swat which some times broke out in the coarse of their diseassitriss. Therit was oue species of inns, which, if it was to be called dos gaence•, could only be explained by certain persons below the bar. He hoped he await! Lear no More of ii. He skunk! only add, that this evidence tomtit sot to be printed in the minutes. When it should ha deliservil in the 'emirate form, it would hr guile competes. to say Noble Lord to make any snobs,* respecting it he 'bought proper. Mr. Powell's evidence was then ordered to be printed se. perste from the inmates. Joseph Planta, lisq.trru Ikon rolled fo the bar aid era• mined by the Earl of Caroarvon - . Are you Uudrr-Secretary of State iu Lord Castlerroglis °Bier I IMO. Du you remember any applicalion made to you by any prrsou in the mouth of & T imber, for a parispoit fur a currier Earned &Welk '! Yea, Mr. Pune!) came to nit is the month of Sepienib!r, and told sue that he intruded lu stud Raided' abroad as a courier, aud desired ore to Inks the Darla, eleva fur that. purpose. What d.d pus du in eulistquenee of shit application! A paamourt was made use fur Itastellt, and 1 lstik tba eters pruper fur 44 uttiug him abroad. By shorn sae gloat .paupurt Opted? By, Lord Castle reagh. If I way Its allowed Cu explaik,o ooadaa of ligord P'eu'refte are usuahly krpt it' the offier ed u il fur swat sera• iMi u, therefore it was one, of lbw aigneA iroaoloarta that oil 'used fur that pasoport. Did you ! A I ...toysomoicatiell . ta I.BNra Oryeagh derPeciiiit t tif p000pOrf? I did wolf • Did lon, of your oro eels Ergot th , il piumpOrt ' for OM, in co:id/gimes of Itte opylicotioe& of Mr. PMe4 ! bid. Is it the practirrof the offiee for permute in yonr Dittos jigs• !treat suchpssaports to course. withou t as imowe te lard Cistferrite'? It Is the couifinst— :foment,. ' lied you received prom Lord Castlereagh or any other ..petamt nag-inattustiuma £ll graatirsg such passports to wit. nesse., or persons who had attended at the her in the pro gress of this ? • I had received no instructions what ever front Lord Castlereagh respecting witnesses or pemuns who had attended at the bar in the progress of this Bill. Nor from any other person? Nor from any other person. Al the time you grimed this passport, did you know that Rastelli bad been examisied as a witness at the bar of this House on ibis occasion? Not officially knew it generally, in the way that the proceedings of this house Income known to the public. I hail Ow general knowlerke of it that one obtains of the events of the day Gum the newspapers. 1)o you know what was the date of the passport? I be. lieve the 14th of September. Do you know whether the courier, Rastelli, was charged with any dispatches froin the Foreign Office, or whether any dispatches were given by Mr. P.,well? I think certainly not; he had ao dispatches from the Foreign Office. Do you know whether any passport was granted to any other courier since, f .r the purpose of calling back Rastelli I know that passports wer.• granted for other rouriere, but what the object of their going might lw, I do nt.t k now.— What I mean to say is, that I do nut know, of my owe knos ledge, it was for the purpose of calling back Itastelli tiny were granted. The Marquis of I.snadown—ln what capacity did you consider Mr. Powell? As an agent on the part of the pro secution. The Eirl of Darlington—When lir. Powell made the ap. plieation fur the ibasspurt fir Rag!, 111, did he mike ■t the same time application for pasrporla fur other persons to re turn lu Italy ? I think certainly not. The Earl of Darnley—Did Mr. Powell mike any ap. plieatiun, at any Other time, for paesporls for other wit nesses ms the part of the pruseciitiou to go *wt.)? Certainly 1101. A Peer—W, re yon acquainted with the order of this noose respecting the witnesses? I merely knew it iu the way one knows passing crents—by the papers. The followiwz queslious were i.ul by Mr. Brougham, through the Lord Clianeellur:— At the time you say Air. Powell made the application to you fur the pasport for 'tastelli, dill lie say any thing else to you respecting 'tastelli's going back As far as I recollect he mention( d sum, lino:: almost ItAstelli's hying a proper persou to go hack to Italy, to cattily the families of the wuluctuwe here—lle Mule some stale meat of that sort, but I don't recollect the puticulars—it was uut my butiuem to atiewl to it. Whether he said •ny thing else? I don't recollect that he slid Does he recollect whether he sa:d that Italiclli had been examined &A a witness heir [%Vc could 111/i hear the answer.] I'Vlirihrr glum was any person else in the room when Mr. Miry!! was ' There might have been others; greyt numbers of per))))). runic tutu the office; Mr. Powell came in awl .tayetl fur a Own time—there might have hero others, II is very likely. - . Whether pasoporis have been wade oat fur other couriers since the 14th &viewhes ? Yea. Dues he wean runs ices going on the business of the Bill ? Certainly. What was the date of the earliest of these passports? That I certainty cannot tell. HUM ►uun eau you take upon you to say a p issport was grinder' after the l'ash Sertenaher ? I scatty don't know—l don't keep the books of the passports granted ; alt 1 do is to give the orders fur making out the passports. Wby dues he out recollect the slates of the other pass. ports with as much accuracy as that of the Gest, of the 14th Septentlon ? In consequence of what passed yesterday, I isicertaiued list night, from tlw proper official person, tl•at the date of that was the 14th, previou►ly 1 had ou knowledge of the date. The witness withdrew, baying previously (we understood), undertakers to ascertain awl communicate to the !louse the dates of the subsequent passports. The Earl of Carnarvon observed, that the Muse now aloud in a different situation from that in which it was placeai when he had made his last motion. By the examina tion of the two last vaitiiesse., the material fact had come oat, that kastelli had Iteeu melt oat of the cosintsy by one of the awaits for the Bill—und.r these eiecumationees, he should submit this motion, to which he hyped there would be uo objectiem ' viz —Vitt her Majesty's Counsel be called to, and informed that Rai:tette had 611'11 sent abroad on the public &eerier, sod then asked, whether, emir, these circeine stancee, they were ready to proceed with any colic: part of her Majesty'. rear? The Lord Chancellor was most decidedly of opinion, that, tho u gh it might be sight to call its her Majesty. Counsel, moll inform them of Rasielli'a having been 114.111 abroad, yet no question should 4 C put to them. If Counsel at tier bar, 011 lrarniug that itaidelli was aliment, had thought proper to apply fur delay, and to state that they were enable to go or with the rest of their case in consequence of his absence, it would then leave been the deity of the 'Loom to hear the reaswis of Counsel uu both aisles, fur and against this appli. cation, and theta pronounce their own decisiem. It would, in his opinion, be establishiug a most daligerwis precedent to call on Commit to say whether they were prepared to pre med. Him opinion was, that Counsel should be called in, and simply be told, that Itiestelli was absent ; leaving it to themselves to make any application they might deem proper in consequence of that communication. His Lordship then mused as au amendment, to leave out the latter winds of the motion. Lend Carnarvun said he should leave the matter to the sense of the Hume, rather than take any step himself with respect to the amendment. Tele amendment was then agreed tu. A Peer moved, that the wends "mm the public service" be omitted. The EArl of Caruarvon would not object to the proposed change, bait lie thought it most material that the communi cAtiou should ►kew iu what warmer Rostrlle had lift the country, and that he had nut teleacunded, otherwise the Counsel nimbi be uninformed of the evidence to the face. Lord Liskine (we belitee) winced the communication to stand shoe: " That it Appears on the evidence of Mr. that ktaslelli had beets scut abroad ou the public service." The Earl of Liverpool thought that it shush! also slate the Lot of Rastelle being detained abroad by a fever. Lord Ilullaud said, It seemed to him preposterous to in form Counsel of tvidewee, all of which they had hood, and part of which *had come out ou their own examluatioo.— (Hear) The Earl of Liverpool quite agreed with the Noble Baron who bad spoken last. The House bad involved itself i■ a didlculey, and the only way which appeared to him for gel. hug but of it wa s to mike 110 CtilllMUUlCilitlli whatever to the Counsel, but inertly call them in. The Marquis of Lauselosse obsessed, that the form of communication last proposed would imply that the House approved of what had been dune with regard to Rastriti. It wa., therefore, nut satisfactory to him. After a few words from the Lord Omar-ellen, the Queen's Counsel were simply called a. Mr. Broughams re qiiesieelthat their Lordships would allow himself and his Learned Filen& to adjourn fur a quarter of an hour, that they might 1)01 be obliged ho come to a deci. Moo us a point which bad occupied the atteusiou of their Lordship* so lung, sod which was so impartaut, without some previous cousideratiou. The Used Chancellor said, certaialy Ole [louse would mot refuse so fraiuslable a segues.. l'hOluisse they adj d about a quarter of as ►our before tiro o'clock, during pkosotr. At Ave ustruies pasi v*04;61441' the Counsel for her Ma jesty returned to the WV. The Lord assecelks directed the Cooped no the other side to be called in. Mr. Droughani thee said, My !Aids, in the extraorlli. nary ciressoatances in which I Sad that we are under the almost losupetabis dillieWkies with which we are surrounded, I (ccl it to be intrassibk to avow to yoir Lord. - . • . t 56 moue to the iia r t n a l=m g telli; c hay tbe '.'"l ine of examisatia• le NM 1 i" , • bees espepl." Plilippo Paine teas then cella end mon, and essathied - . . by Dr. Luabingion. leralvat pnelot linli_alamm the minas rmsally marls A - Ilse Baena. How Tong has he resided there! In my own parish thiryy. five years in the place where I work by day fourteeu years. Is the imneta the name of the el It is . . Ark him if he has resided ur I;amii.al the Llamas since the Thinness of Wales seaided there I k M foul-stip nem . that , I have dwelt in the house. D.w he remember the Princess of Wales residing in that house I Yes, Idu; by night and by day. Ask him of what trade ur OCCII pit lll. is A carpenter. Ask him dim knows Gisiseppc R.o.telb t I. do. Was Itastelli in the Queen's seivice Ile wag a courier at Rause. Ask him if he knows Louisa Demon., a ehansherniairt in the service (If the P 4 Weer.* ? I irks. AA hits ithe remrinber.. iu the cilium* of last rue., Ros h:Hi mush* to the Barons ? I olio reiswintwr. Hy whom was Kbyte lli oirensiminied ? He claw tuigt thrr with the um of the hem' insole,. %Vag lk t with ftesteili at that lime' Derrtost eAme in WU an Inuit in a est riazti with aunt her pera.n. Were 'Castel!' and Denton' tug• slier in the Inmate They ►ere. Mk hint what he Low gamelli do u ith Ikettont on that °evasion ? I saw them make a tittle ihnwiuc up Did Haelrlli, cm leaviug the liumv, utlrr o r give the wit ness suy money ? The Ititurney.General—What did ilastelli du ? Your's is • leading question. Mr. Deutuaii—To he Burr, it ought to he a Icadiag gives_ t' . Katielb bad denied haviog opined any one motley to come as a witness. The ler.l Chaueelior urdarea the qaestina to he put. (tact uskod me if I bed rterivtd any prescut» from the prviess rrhn bad c•mie to the blouse. .1 said tau ; and Iw afterwards made me a present. _ _ Of w hat amount ? He made me a ',mama of furry franca, two Napolimo* or forty femurs. Ita•teili ray any thin; respecting Dentout thew when Ire ga.e you The Atiornry.Gesseral said that could not he evidence. Thu Lord Chancellor .seggested, that the Cou•&rl ought to confine bilowlf to the encourstantea into oil the ex.iiiinAliota of Itaistelli ; the irsesieti would Own he nut " slid he sitiVr you any nsnuey ?" but '• slid he offer you mosey to come as a aitntes ?" Dr. Idishissclon acid, that his denign was to have followed up the reanimation by putting that very fisiebleti next in ni sit r. Did he offer you any money to induce you to become • witnesa Ile did offer use money on another day, but on Shit day he offered me nothing; it was tlOl on that day, hut he told Ml' once if I had something to depose against the Print, is, I stsnolol ieceive a great present. Mien was it he told you lion you should receive this veal prevent it you bad any thing to depose *gamy. the Prim; erns f No, I said, I have oohing To pay against her Nla jesty ; and I had nothing to say bat to via ak well i.f ber AO; him to state, at nearly :i lie cos, the exact words Rastelii natd when lie told him that he should receive • great !present if lie bad any thing to depose against the Prince'. of Wales? " Pome," he told me, " Pomo., if yam like you may make your.tif • tnan." I nOgeil him what lie meant ; " You who have always lived in the house el ay and night, you may have s 1111 l ribing 1u depuse against her Royal Highness," I said that I bad nothing In do:roar against that Lady, except that she lead always dune a great deal of good. %Vas Demon, present on that occasion She was not. Did Kaatelli mention the name of Denitnit on that tic. casion- . 1 lir Attorney-Getwrol oi.jecttd to any lisiog couitecieti with Deinout being &drained, as the witiess had said that she WWI not present. The Lord Chancellor overruled the oljeetion._ Lind Erik tut said, that there was evicttiter offered of Rao. trlli liriug at cui rapt tied profligate •gent ut the Mihroi from whose informal WU gibe 11111 hail mtge. Their lordships as re, tlitlefore, bound to Mil,* that evoleuee—subject, of cuus . me, lu euntrathcatow, if there W. re any means of sit &Ill.": The Lard Chancellor said, skit the only reason which made it uecessary to receive this evidence was, that Rasielli w. 1,1 alisent, and they see re bl/nod to receive that which would have hers received hail Itsstellt been 1111:01 . 0, II was nut from any fault of the Counsel agents( tbe Mill that Ra► it Ili was nut premed. Did linstelti, at the time e.f makiox this offer, mention the name ut Denoting to you . . . The Atioraey-General was again alinut to object, when the witness proceeded iii his reply—No—itecause— The Lord Chancellor •ii II pied tree answer, mid raid, that if the Compel for the Itill wtokell to have the quart dhorinweil, their landalsips would bear thew. The Sulic .-Gentral said that at was ruureest•ary, as t►e sliver 11.Lti bono r i yeti. . Mr. liraugliatmdenied that the answer had been given to any elf. et which could alter the necessity far going into the argument, which, he professed, his Learued Friends were ready to du. The Counsel for the Bill declined troubling their Lord. stiipv with the objec The witness proceeded with the answer: No, because it was a few days after be lied this conversation with me— The Solicitor-General, will t wishing to trouble their lordshipv, protest. d against the question. It had been se. kisuuleilgtd that the question emild not he poi if Rastedi had hero present.—(This was promptly deuied by the Contu se! on the other side, and by tone or two of the Pura.;, — Well ilwo, it had been admitted that if Rash.lli Md been prmetst, the question could not have been put until the foundation were laid on Restill's contradiction. Now, as to Ratitelli's ItllhellCP, and the injury which the other side Might suppose themselves to suffer by it, it was competent in them to make what ■ppticatiou they pleased to their Lordships in consequence of it. Lott he dud say, that it was pregnant with the greatest danger to allow the witness to depose to what had token place 'between himself and Itowielli, with the knowledge in his mind that Rastelli was nut littoral to con front I One of the Peers—" Bow dues he know that '?"—rOrder, order.) Ile had been asked, how did the wituesa know that Ras. Sethi was not there? It was enough fur hire to know that it wan partible for the witness to know that Bastelli was absent ; sod that circumstance, if so, was likely to operate most powerfully on Ilse mho' of the witness. As to Km telli b..iug called a encrypt end profligate evidence, *he begged leave to saw, that there was no proof of that as yet before their Lordships. Metall bad, on his oath, denied any agency, such as lie adoliseed to have brew sworn to on the other aisle, hut stick as would be entirely contradicted. But he wished to know low any wee could take opal him self to say that Itartelli was a corrupt and profligate agent, until the conclusion of the inquiry. The Camosel on the other side were at liberty, if they choose, to make an applies. lan to their Lordships to postpone farther reansiostions till Itastelle's return. But the plan they were pursuing was pregnant with the greatest danger to the interests of justice . Mr. Denman said, that be and his Iluisuaratee Friends were ,wt bouuJ to wake ary •pplication at all to oleic Loidships, but to pa, sue the I'OI4IVC which they were hie. He could called Bagatelle they did it with uu auurledge of Bastelle's simmer, awl with the full eipeciatioa, as in the ease of klajocchi, that he would be iussueslistely produced, rsey had in spirit actually She grime-is before they leaflet that be had beau spirited sway. It wis rot, however, their bed- PM to snake any application fur the prnrat us that ac. count. That which they were then doles; accorded with the strictest roles of evidence. fluorin had sworn that be had nut acted as an agent to the Milan Cunsesissiois ; be had sworn that he offered so mow y, nor wed any aria to Mance persona to appear as witoesers wisest the Queen. They offered elideiscs to contradict these ossertious, and !eating so they were about 10 skew is whit uouraer kostelli ward his iodutenients, .sanely, by a recessive to 1100 nine! of Deasoist. Hit siould make as aiskisadversion 00 the pr,t. Liable effect of Ibis testistrioy is eke result. Fir the present I '. pr • lit fltry *ere entitle/1 to imitate the pr4v4 d azeary of Rast,lli. it was perfectly clear that Reatelli wax an agent indeed, f..r the very reams given fee his absence prove..l it. Hov e ls he declined any argtoneat um that head (or the present. Ile nistislatne4lllwil they were strieily entitled to t•rtariee the l e mi n . s y w hich th e y olfe,ed of Haste having twetl the ovine of Diatom, to iadare sautber pert.or la Income a wit slew lolrot4 Three or four of thelaidgne•litut beiuir read neer— The Attorney-General replied. Ile dewed she nes my of R•ottlti.of 'duds there was AO crldence - itt the ewe, awl he. e inse.beviileneccubtld be heard, Rarietti naght to be calleal hock nod examined as to that 'point . . The evidence only skewed that Kaotelli hail ehoireil offering any whole, se sa. Jury wilnrsacs In MINI' here;` and no the "weds a. r•• , •kr•• at 111. bar of their Isisrlitlipo . liu•se, hr coin...iv, .110111 1011 I,entoo.ll Fa 'emir "wit violin* their egonnuation to she rot. trallsettosi of that one aai el ton. homely, that lindtlll Ld not sittemptril to induce triturator Cu eloperr et their ship'hair.yiniel4. i n ' kiwi *Joe, Eire evidence of y C.f.i.. bus not of rosivessasi.roo • Isiedi had Isecia to Id by the eniiirailicted party wish a third porrgou. A. _to R4Pit,..'4 att. seorr, he h. eget, leave 1 , 1 et taloa their th , erit ' s Attorney G a,ral Ind dectieed all f.. lb r rtp. . o.x4lnlnation . t. Ne kitty, that their I.sind.lnp• bad otw nee car la.. ore/I%IOIIN {O HL lout ratite hat ier tern ofoo .1 'rock Ilse witnrimea • tint her; nue no o r rifle epse•tiais off. .. rot, on rate proopete4 to induce their 1.,.d hips. His I.e:srsi.. Friesido nffereil to tall 11(1/4(41, s, their ittlt,•; ttUt • lie alto eased as thew osittiens, tin c, oh/ out E.ve evidence nf the ctnt•cr.nti 4444 n..iffirtl L. by the ram et PXIII,IIIIPIa., nor cold,' they call lkin es their 1.. rustioadirt an other of those witnesiter. 14e Weevil their Liirdloliipo to !souse, In 'lard, to eitiriirlet thew sit 111,111141, Mitt net rashly t o tilhu l ee a , a derwinee front Ike hi Pt IWIIIIII/14111 tof en. t h esis e, He admit tea tire art id, oil shirt had fallen out, a n d 11'41 it war I.lantrahlr ; hat Iri thr Como.firl fur she Otto r este 11.4 for 'Way, Sad hod we doubt hut that II viuuid be The Earl of Liverpool said, that he was not covatieteht to wave au optsaioto as to whether the tptt silo., ulusinisi t.h put tts slut—butt slue he soissid shy, ilia if the 1.110114.11 cowlel Wove been pot, ihsu•lli hinge prrsrot, it anw•l be pal, not iiitslaud 114 hit al..rocc, as he Isrl,ped ILA It was a riel or I'l/4, 11111 110 party 041:111 to e.lN•tr from the lac Le. of side. If the gisestiose es odd slut bi- poi, 11...11111 WI-re 1/rrl/1111, IL4I of c o s i ...e 4lLrrll the ea I—h. t he r Mai/14y em ht 1101 I 0 44 in,- for au act which I.lv 114/1 110 SElne 1/1 Clllllmiltillq. Lord Eralcossc 11•111 imouseilsing, to which _ . The Lard Chancellor replier., that lie had already h.en asked that gnestioa, nod caves. a distinct answer. In t is iinialiiti the fiter*l . might be poi, b, cause itaStt 111 ha.i tlenn.d having uffei eel any nue mini. y to appear as a u la. A. to confiuing the cu.drathetion to fllelleV Is pine at the bar of that House, lie c •iirtd that it wi.u!.l be tun suhtle sit exposition of the law of centime, to 1:18.11 the testimuuy to ogr. is of money to appear us. th.sl one cnele spot. It would be en...Kt to Sin w Hist moo.y hint bees. oliervd to inshice amusing lee appear any store, A. I. the which had bees. 6140441 to Itasictli lie mold not approve of them. He way. 1.1111.4 to consoler Bus -14.11. lid a KWIC, said 111.11rei w itin•ss as any that had e,tae haore their lordshipi, until the result of the it.rpta at least. Nor ought Haskell' to have Leta 04 nv II s dues!' who had beer " spirited aw..y." lint apiritud array, yr not spirited away, the question was. whose Coin was it that Kasten' was :lot present 1 fl•cuol..l not think Liaised( that because the Cnonself agmiost the Bill had given up (eraser crust. raarainatimi, theta th,ar de. Wilb to be taken asa oration tr tlssolliug out .weer question which they might deem ii fur the parpoo.s of justice to put ill only witneas after his evidence v v .. closed. He must say, that it seemed to him yesterday as if the Cutinset against the Bill wkheil tip call Ristelli as their wilful w chief. But lie could not au t.. far as to say that hail Rafttelli br. ncalled, it would not Inive het ti pe sleet iy competent .n Owens to have withdrawn that deivrintii &tilos and t o have rid {parrot the House to I %Millie him only is a witnesa to be contradicted. The difficulty was 11,15, if a 'Hems' had Itera wait oat at cooingly by senate of agents or persUlll , engaged iu support of the Rill, were tlitor Lordship" to inamite on her Alsjesey the ditliculty 4.f poptpoising her examinations in filllectillteete at a !soli net committed by any isle of her owes agent.. There was riot& bet oie their 1.0141111,p11 of the tnatie of a witness who had appeared at their her having bat en nn alarmed to ti. • wi twee under santination. Hr thought that dee Ccuileil against the kill , under all the roe ..... stances, had a iicht to ask if, in my einiverwalion with it astelli. the lump of D. - timid bad been made stir of to the witness as a tummy.. nication lett/we to acciornatend Ilse •eceptinice of titua.l in the witness ter depute against her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales. Art. r a few nom& firm Mr. Denman and the Lord Chan cellor, the examination wait it:tainted rei collect to the to mid rime( 'catkin, atm en oiler was made lu you of mom y, the came of Demon, 1.24 mentioned by It:Weill At the lithe rt Ike atenud conin.u tneition. %Three did that sccond communication lake place? h look place one ntoruing *lieu he cailt.l upon me, and ne went together loam Hill. Did he make any off r or promise s.f money so you, if you would become • witness against her !loyal Itivhu. and is. what *ord., as nearly as you can recollects He told " .1 you hare any thing to depose against her Ilightirs+ now is the tome; you will biter a great present; you will become a gnat ma•." We went together, and we wrre talk. tug there. Dill he at the time you were 21 the ion mention the tome of Deming' Yes, he dill mention the m.me of Demont. Dad he mention she name of Dritiont with reference so y offer of no n he made yon!- The'Sulteitor General ohireied to the rte.tion. The Lord Claancellur thought it could not be put in those words. %tido ref . ..wore to what did he mention the name of De moot ? I hod a•ted lino if Dedonat was stilt in the rain iest's service. He told one she was. He did nut the mime the time hr was taking the drawing, Got he men tioned it the second day, and told sue that she had made a Rood days wort. . _ _ Mr. Brougham said, the Interpret. r bad omitted to Firc Ilse last words of the suttee', whirls Is° ur flora Gen tense n iv:outing near, wb.. uuderstood Italian, had heat d as well us himself. Reference being made to the Queen's Interpreter—he raid the *dues, bad added, that she Dumont) had made a pea sum. The Led of Liverpool said, the omission had arisen hunt the Counsel choosiaw to Lave a very long answer. The Lord Chasedlon said, if shsry was any dispose as to what she willies' had said, she (oration had better be pot again. After a few words from the Earl of LIM hentale and Lord Rossiya 'bleb acre not beard betas the bar, The L ord Chancellor informed alio Interpreter that it was observed when he held aphis hand it slept the wittier,. tie therefore directed him to inform - hire swam.* that when Ite held sip his hated it was merely few the ' , litmus to wait while be interpreted *bat he had already said. 1 be question was repeated to the %ramie. I asked him fur this thing, bemuse I asked him boo is this hosiers', for lie had told me that I). moot was still is the service of her Royal Mishima., and thin I fumed she wee here ; and he thew told me, if I would depose tommithiss against her Royal nighties% I Avoid have storm present ; and I thee said to him, I have been meld and dry is the Howie, mod I sever saw any thing. to reside me to speak ill of that Lady. lie sod, thew you know nothing, for that home was a very deernfol horse: is that home was hid women, aid aidorth—(A larigh)-..aed I lien answered, that this was a real rainbow!, fur I had hero is the Mime day sod eight, and I saw mahout of the., and them we separated. The AtoreoryAkeesal objected to this Marsiiisg se their Liredishipie minutes, as it was 'slimly irrelemat. • Mr. Llemmais meta:sided that it ought to stand. The olivetioe of the Aliereel-Gmeral was ememied. Mid Masotti, on that oecosios, say soy thing respretiag Illesselatt No. ne , lloll Literpersi wished 4. atop doe Lama Colt tiammweir, a mateme.t. to pat ere.atersia. Mr. Plants was thee risked what was the dale of the gest 11111/4.17,6111461 be* he betel is kW balmi, of a pompom fur a courier to Italy, alter the ISA September ? To "WI et replied, the int nay appeared on the 2.1 b September. • -. . • •.