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prevent troy obstruction tios to 'which be bad to Inset of those privileges. isle to be • letter from of ►be meat dangerous impact lie would read one ur two &Sin the most gram and attributed to a Member lerareed Gentleman her. • letter, which conveyed direct and ratlinesl motives, is the mum by on his motion upon the Lied Advocate-aad the Scotch .ablslipapers. Anhwei setter MOstreilitnes cited by the Hoe. sled Learsed Gentleman (Mr. Coseleway)wers some charging Mr. A bekrontby 'with " wilful misrepreirestatim".—" iojus. tire"- 4 illiberality"—and the service of his party views aid peijlioJ bortllity. by the rltevelse of his parklunentary dottrel—With the Hon. sad Leaned Crentleases xu stimk• ad he bad no political imiamsej; JIM he did wet feel bound to consult him, or to at which •11411 of the Home hit Mao' sit. It 'whined to she wisdom of the Home to pit apat soeh langusgre from being held to my of its Webers Apia their eisiduet widths sham walls. Perhaps, his Hoe. and, Learned Faked wool I be lissomly perms in that House who would dislike the course be was thee tabby; hot be 'owed it to the Hoses sad to the welfare of the country to do what be could loweede prevestaag oath infester,. It would not be dastard that the pampa which he Asa read amounted, to a direct knish uf lie hoped so be excused from say impotatioa of pottiest himself forward, or ohlrosbag his offices upon the House; bat If they were to enjoy s real liberty of /patch in their ratmediags, it was impossible to I.t this totem( be palmed over. Whet freedom could they enjoy, tf individuals am cooed is the eosins of their pessatedlagb use. resisted to Poke that accusation the groomil of peremial all•cl, and call Imo. Members for satialhedso? Then was another assmssaal eismfasetarree ossawsled with tile preseeediass, which be lowdmad Ira she Closeliorde loft Main, la which Me Men. sod Learned tefafigl bid WO *dm isic aa hostile stolvtipmplewes with s Ile. Ilsobifts mild& Advocate, for ether pares ef the added, which .Isits *my bad induced . him to make to the Hoeft sh drosses liedliioo. He presumed, however, that Member bwdersed that &arroyos. dram, and, theref ore, be would sot trouble this with ex tracts. This was evidesitly part of a system which must be pot en end to, ur the freedom of debate would cease. The House would epee with him that the tewdeney of the re marks was unquestiosuble, sad that they tovolvid a direst breeds of their privileges. There was Allevideut attempt at a peseassal quarrel with Isis Hos. sod Lreesied Friend, venuded out obserSatioos made by bias is the deliberatioas of the House. It became an isdiesiessable duty be briar die paftace before them. He eeuld Got pet is the papers and pamphlet. As they were visited fleCtlVacllll4 he could not directly &mime the Gimlet/bee whom saws wore subscribed so the authors. After a emolutioa to declare the sawn of them It might be seessasry to have the priers called. Wlesa r m ulterior steps should be takes be mould leave the Hama to determiae. The papers were ilea pot la fee the porpoise of barlispthe offrasivir passages read. Lord BINNING them& is fairness the paper§ should be resell ibrowyb. The SPEAKER said, it might be ,found coevesieet to hove the papers reed, with • view of ascertainieg the effect of the obnoxious passages taken with their coolest; hot that must follow upon the reading of the passages wheels Were offered se the ground of acce.aties. Mr. COURTEN AY moved that the recited passages are • breach of the privilege of the House. The Marquis of LON DON DERRY made note observe riot's in so few a tone of voice, that his speech could out be heard in the gallery. He was indistioesly uedervlood to `uoggest whether the veselistiothareerdlng to precedest,shoold be moved forthwith, or the papers haft with the House, and lit resolution postpowed to Roeder day. The SPEAKER said, that both courses were apes to . • lit Horse, and %ben the subject of complaint was • breech of prinilege, committed directly in regard to say thing wbich bad parsed 'ibis those walls, the most prompt Conroe tree the usual one. The passages read ccastaieed be. yuud all dispute a direct breath of privilege. Mr. C. WYNN relieving to the ease of .• pamphlet by • Mr. Reeves, and the steps taken spun 11, thought that it Witold be most conveniest to follows that preemies, by klieg the papers Be after the present swim), and ertiore• the IreMPlatut. so as to give lime tee the Members to read the pater'. He did set memo to inseminate that asy thing could be suggested to protest the passages from beteg considered ire the Mort &eel breath of privilege, but the more calm anti dignieed course world be to TOW thee se after a proper pause of delay. Mr. TIERNEY thought that the whole of the letters should be read, is order to possess the House with the mo le:nth of shear, that thirs might determine at once if they comprised a breath of pritrilige or Dot. By readmg the letters the Lance might possibly he softened, though there could be no doubt of a beach of privilege being committed is the abstracted peerages. if say Member hoped to be able to vindicate it is say degree by limas the papers read, that course was open to them. Mr. C. WYNN made some remarks as to the necessity of Sri considering of the means for prereuiths a breach of the peace, whirls might ensue. The SPEAKER said that there were two wsyt of pro erestiog ins breach of privilege. The one wig, to determine us the offence at once, then to call the parties to the bee to . dray or admit the publication, and afterwards take steps Sherriepon; the other was, previous to the decision of the Moose on the breach of privilege, to cull the partite to the bar, sod bear whet mold be urged in (attestation, which might have some effect we the ultimate deteresiestion sad conduct of the House. The latter comae was hardly ever taken to a ease like the resist, where there could be so doubt of any sort, aye tor ow, as to the breach of privilege. There might be coesiderstioas offered which might effect the .steps they would afterwards lake. Ihe House had to consider that their privileges were granted them not fur their resets& coevetrience, bet as a public treat for the effi vital discharge of public fonetioos. if the Members chose to shut their eyes at one breach of their privileges, which took place from day to day, because they could not ate ass isetneenietice of it—yet they were to keep that die. meet in their minds from a breach of privilege which only weal to infringe the freedom of debate. Let no casual want of vigilante In proteeti•g their privileges kad to a supposi tion that they were mil warranted o• soy other occasion In rigotemily enforcing them. This offesce ought nut fur a mom* to be mixed its their minds with cases of onli a notate The Marquis of LONDONDERRY spoke in favour of polipisniug the complaint, and wake some other remark, . the purport of with could out be gathered. The SPEAKER aid, there toted be so question that this was a breach of 'wieder., directly referring to something which had passed is the House. No ether step could be take,. •014 i that decision should be recorded. As to the case ~'danger supposed, soil then to be provided for, the usual aurae. when both parties were Members, was sell known. if only one patty was a Member, it was usu.l to have him summoned to attend in his place, and the desire of the Hesse was wieudatory upon him to p t him from aiding ia a breech a' the peace; but test the °Balmier publication meet he recorded as a breach of the privileges of the Meese. Mr. PEEL proposed to follow the prectrieet ow Mr. !fob. • liosse's pamphlet, when the motion was delayed, at the sug gestion of the Member for Wischelses, fur two days. Me. TIERNEY said that the cases had coo ma. inblosee. Mr. Holibenee's pamphlet contained a admiral attack on the House, she greater part of who* woe involved in a g.ireral Principle, wh.ch might be explained away is a prat Imes tale by the eirciseertances, the circulation fur attach it wee designed, the slate of mind is which it was written, or what not. But this was a direct attack ou a Meath. r for cords sputeu by him in the conscientioss discharge of hi duty, who h mightlead to anger suit breseb of the peace. This latter circumstance was anti. ipaled, sod a wish was expressed to take mellow's of pr. violation. But how were thiy so interfere! How cuul.l they stud fur either Mr. Hope or 'dr. Menzies. notch lecs his lieu. aml Learned until lh.y had deteiuuiwd on the character of the pubhcalons ? Again :by portironeine of facilities, were given foc that very calamity which they sneght to 'prevent. His and Leatited Frscud, bearing ut neat was gilog bouse, which mash' be a gross libel ea the House, but cook' ant be compared to this direct allusion le Oar& spoken by a Member. It wet desirable to prevent the disagreeable to.. osquences setielpited ; bat they could only proceed oft th e germ' of* breach of privilege first declared to have bees committed. The cooly qtwslioa which they could moo new ish, was the *moths of privilege, and if they Intended to proceed, tberment goon with the Resolution before them. Lent BISINING could sot see the &ferrate between this case of individual interfere nee and that of Mr. Hob. house, who preferred to deal ai h the whole Hoene boldly. He thought they might take steps to pretreat • breach of the peace without Involving go soddenly dishiest parties. 111 r. BROUGHAM conaidered the quotient of brealtior the peace only incidental to the mete question of 'Koine privileges. He could only look at the danger of perinea' alteration as another swung reason why they shoUld use all possible dispatch in their proceediop. There was a sisal. feat difference between this cafe sod that of Mr. Hobbies's. The lanes might have b. ea isdecorons sod highly to be re. ended tiY the House. It might by coalitions.* sad in re. mote eff.et be considered as an obstrurtibs. fist it *as mot that direct obstruction contained in the permit pet . - meal appeal to • Nrother for words spokes. The mot grow Resent week could never he half so iniiehinetits to the liberty of debate. Toey had ramegh grounds for pear use lag. The offeote was committed in 1t looser In the prep, Noce of the Howse, as they had the recollection of the disco.. aims referred to. While they were nide' immesares to pep. veal • breach Of the peso, they were of course—the subject 'mime breach of privilege—to press as lightly as possible on his Hoiesurabie and Learned Fri. ud. Were they theft to proceed So build his Hoooarable Priced before stigma. tieing the offence which made it necessary!-.would they punish hint while they hesitated as to what should he done with the wrong doer! They otsght sot without evident neeenity, impose restraints on say of shale Mem. hers; seining could justify it bin inimitseot dingo Frond by their own proceedlogii. They must proceed speedily to put down • system which newt to cut up by the roots all pretensions of free deliberation. He repeated it, that there was far less danger is tellers! attacks. Mtn might, not-' withstendine, go ea quietly and ceasciestioosly with their duly; but if individual Mothers were to be picked out by parties coneurriag for that object, to be charged in the direct Noe of their duty, and dogged as is were to trial before the public, it would be seas head hespoisible for reef Member keeporferia those duties. 11r. C. WYNN hod otter doubted for • tesoment es the 1116111• C er of the pubhcations. , He had only permed en p. pwso the complaint with a view to general conveolenes sad she ITIIII•07 of Si,.e As there seemed to be some •feneesee ad opinion ow that subject, mid es there ought to be Dote in the Purdue.t aid osoohowas de termioatios of the Home to step so dangerous as abuse, he woold give say to the Reeolmiteu lint proposed. Lord DINNING withdrew his objection. The litrooktion detlariog the publiestiosi in question to be • breach of privilege tau thew agreed to. Mr. C. W. WYNN said, Mang resolved that the publics. floe was • breath of privilege, the morn for the House to partite was either to adjouns the farther moisid. robot of the e sub or so wake as order for the prOter to attend to give of the ssibsr. The SPEAKER suggested that the usual course was to order the Pfister to attend at the Bar of the House to-mor row ' • all that who necessary heiress bola dose for today. Lord BINNING said the printer of one of thee papers too resident in Ediasborgh. Mr. TIERNEY observed opmetbe hardship le which his Mon. Friend would be melleresed by bring under the reslreiet of an Order of the Brow, while the prioare and publishes .of the letter would he at perfect bberty to act as be pleased far • week Imager at Stasi. Was there soy r now stritaaisl eil with Me. 3. Hope who. hod the least doubt that ho was this maths, of the niter? Who ohjietion thee mold there be to making Oat or d er spas bin as one, ? If the Noble lord thought It isoterial for Mr. Hope's interest that his being the author should be proved at the bar, °Coarse he (Mr. T ) could have nothiog further to say; but be thought it would be soviet; the time and forwarding the wishes of the House to make so order foe No atteadauce of Mr. Hope is the lint Sostauce. Lied BINNING said be bad no hesitation in admitting that he bed not the smallest doubt that every word in that letter had bees written by Mr. Job. Hope, end be had oe doubt whatever that be would acksooledge it at the bar of the House ; though be had aot Ines setheirissi by Mr. Mope to make that eastrawat. Mr. WYNN was andaw.tood to opium Ids anstiety that as time should be saateressarily coasomed, hood m &solo the propriety of that Muse proreedsog assume sis iaiirielwal without evielesee to show that be was the ssibss, _ _ _ Mr. TIERNEY said, after what lad ban Mated by at Noble Lord (Biasing), he could see ots poosible ulrj.ction to au order heist made directing the alteodance of Mr. J. Hope. A comideroble delay must necessarily take place be. fore that order maid be namplkil with, end all that could be dime is the meow time wm to order his Hououtable :felted (Mr. Abercronstay)ers attmel is his place. After a few obserrosisras from Mr. Brougham, Mr. Come teuay, aid Mr. C. W. Wyss— Mr. ELLICE rose merely to mention, that in the ere of Mr. Hulairouse, beldame!! had avowed that Gentleman to bo the lather, is order to saver the time of the Home from being unnecessarily occupied in the examination of the miller sad publisher, sod the Home had sited upon his matesneut. Mr. C.X. WYNN said, the HJS. Member was airder. stood on that occasion to bore acted ups the authority of Mr. Hubboure, but in the prewar case the Noble Lord (Bus. eingl was only ahle to speak from his own opinion, sad had stated that he had Do mettle/city from the party to declare bits to be the author. _ It war then ordered," That Mr. John Hope do attend at the bar of the Howie to newer, (this day) ee'uwight." The Clerk then proceeded to read sr (Arms from the cow. eluding paragraph of the letter of Mr. W. Menzies, Advocate, to the Edjjor of the Courier:— " I feel no isielisat.on to make say comments as the shove correspondence. I shall be coetented wtb saying that is what yew put forth as a feir 'mint of Mr. Aber crotokirs speech, improper motives were by veep string inuei and impliestioa attributed to me. Sark impels- Items I regard with the most perfect acorn, •sid 1 have new shewn that whoever was the real auth.ir of them, they were altogether mower. anted, grouwdleu, sad false. " I am, Mr, &R. W. MENZIES.* Mr. HUSILISISON said, if he understood aright whet bad just been read, it was a letter to the E,lit u r of the Cowries, charging as false what was put forth by him, bat tbe writer did sot so regud, so the speech of au Hon. Member of that House. Now if a penes was not allowed le state that what as Editor of • wewspoper bad put forth was false, private character would be placed is • state of jeopardy in which it mild sot be the wish of the House that it should be placed. He did not therefore *Mak that the House would see any thing In this case to call fur its juicers:teem Mr. TI ERN EY took a very different view of this 'alike from the of the Right How. Geutteman. lu cuoseyneoce of a report of a speech of his Hun. Friend, by those who made such accurate reports of the proceedings of the House, a letter was addressed by Mr. Mensice to Mr. Abercromby, sstliag upoo him fur as explanation of some statement which hart appeared in that report, and For • denial of it or • publication of a comster-stelenteot, Mr. Abercrumby in his answer not barium defiled that be haul said what nes staled in the report; the same person publishes his letter, with Mr. Abercromsby's soarer, and &gain a cominent whitened to the Editor, " Wham,. r ess the real author of [hove statements, tipsy were eltogetb.r unwarranted, gruundleee, and false." N. leas cou4 doubt of the applicatios of thew terms ; no swan could comely, a muse offensive way of ad dressing au basalt, or owe more certainly eskolated etelead to unpleangot (relict% 'flee remark evidently was not /maul to pliut M the Ed:tur of the Courier. Ilby eis . . ettmeopuadoato -bodices lootetedio a Newspaper, for the ere purpose of adding a paragrspb, .staliqg the who(' of the words imputed to a Member of that lipase had pat forth a complete falsehood. Nothing, therefore, se it ea.: peered to him, would have bees dose to prevent those collate, quotes which it was desirable to avoid, unless the sump emerge were adopted with respechto Mr. Heusi, a as had bee, dons in the case of Mr. Hope. He saw,buwever, one difficulty is this cue which had been surmonuted is the other, for 1 1p did sot know whether any body was prepared to state, as lbw Noble Lord bad done, that be knew Mr. aleusies, and ho. Hewed him to be the monitor of this publication. So that libel probably would bsve to call upon the Editor of thp paper to prove who Mr. Menzies, the sedum of the tenet. woe. Mr. HUSKISSON said he was sot at all disposed to corg i , or to deny that the letter to Mr. Abercromby was • gross breach of the privileges or the House. But if the last pan. graph *Moe leiter addressed to the Editor were to be treated as a breach of privilege, that would be a proceeding, is Ma opinion, toeonsistesst with the dignity of Parliament. Lei it bit takes is immediate eusnezios with the Conimomemeot of obeisant letter—ph. Right Hon. Gtlll4lllllllll here read the begiaaing and tied of the letter to the Editor, leaving • at the eudestureej—that proved et once that Om retina was midemeesti tsetse lithese, wad sot to the Hoe, Iletati. Mr. TIER NEY screed that, toile* aryl O r itiii tit:ref poadesee with lir. Aliercroneby, the letter to the r did ant outcast to • breach of privilege; but takes with that eserespossleom se a whole, it was impossible to dray that it was a pots elalatios of the privilege of Parliament. The Illariptis of LONDONDERRY was understood to soy, that, so far ao he could perceive the drift of the para graph is seestion, it did oat apply to the condies or mate noted of soy Member of Perfumes', bat to what had bees put forth as the report of • speech made awe that Monet, the agrectoess of which the writer impeached. Mr. TIERNEY said, that it was sot the report of tho ,peeek, but the isopetathens epee the conduct at the writer • the letter, which that speech coutaimed, to which the terms • unwareseted, grotendless, and false," were applied. Mr. HUSKISSON said he was quite prepared to Wee that the whole takes together as a libel upos the Hon. Member, sod eoaseiryweatly a breach of privilege; end if the Wean viewed is in the setae light, tbe sootier the ease was disposed of the better. All that he required was that the Home sisoold proceed with that regard to cossisteary which was due to its character and digaiiy. Mr.COVRTENAY said It was ;et a (air way of viewing the subject to take the letter to the Editor by itself p 11111 d taking the • Wit publication together, no men could doubt Met it bad bees published with an object which it was tintines. tiosalrly a breech of privilege for any was to entertain. He therefore moved, " That the publication of the letters, and She conments, RIO a gross breach of privilege." Mr BANKER could not decide that the publication in riactitioo wee a breads of privilege, oaks. be bad beard the whole of it. The Clerk then begs* to read die letter of Mr. Mealier, bat bad hot proceeded far before he was leterropied by Tim Mertuis of LONDONDERRY, who thought it wal l wacessory to ibis ease, before they pr.- 4 -4 farther, tegument. the &Widmere of the Hue. Mem - bir in his place. Mr. TIERNEY contended that the whole of Ilse parties mast be before the House before they mild make toy eider applicable to his Hon. Friend (Mr. Abercromby). After the interchange of • few words *cross the table be tweee the Marquis of LONDONDERRY and Mr. TIM NET— Mr. C. W. WYNN moved "That idr. Abercronshy be or dered forthwith to attend in his place to the Horse.":-. Ordered. The Ckrk the. proceeded to tread as follows: " TO THE EDITOR OF THE COURIER. " 101, George street, Edinburgh, July 5, ISTI. eosseq•enee of tennis expressions which sp. peered in what you published as befog • report of Mr. Abertrontby's speech un the conduct of the Lard Advocate, ire following correspeseileae• has taken place, which I base so doubt you will do an the jestice now to insert in your Paper : " TO TIM Ilea. MIMI OUST, DI P. " 101, George-street, Edinburgh, June 0 0. 1122. " Sea—l have observed i• the reports of your speech, so the et:redact of the Lord Adv.erste of Scotland, published la the Iforaio, Cirmtiela and Courier newspaper v, that you are represented as basing made use of the following expires sioso:—• Yet, notwithstanding this, up started al every mo ment a Baerieter, statiog, That be, as Counsel for Mr. Alex ander, must object to sate *item bring allowed to remain in Coast while the examisation of the other was going on, as be intended to cal/ all the witnesses no the following Monday upon the trial of Mr. Bortbwick. The House must at once perer/ve the motive with which this fore was kept up. But by whom was is so kept up? It was kept up by a Geritlemen, who, as the Leaned Lord very well knee, was frequently, if not slivers employed by him as an ass:emit I. the duties of his office. The Noble Lord knew this, be knew the feeling which bad hero msdesvonred to be kept up, and yet, %M au forty-eight hoses after the acquittal of Mr. Stuart, Mr. Borth. wick was sent away without any trial' " Deans the trial of Mr. Stuart, I, es Corned fur Mr. Alexander, moved the Court that ail the witnesses wbu were to be examinid as that trial, and Meese omits were in cluded in the list of witnesses for the trial of Ilerthwiek, should be directed by the Court to withdraw am sour as they bad given their evidence, in order that, as they were to be examiued upon the sense facts in Borthwick's trial on the Mouthy following, they might lot bane an opportunity of hearing each other's testimony. My motion having been granted, I afterwards pointed out to the Court two trainmen who were in the stiustioe sow described. " By the expressions you are reported to have used, it is more than insinuated that, 'mowing that it was sot Weeded to bring Borthwick to trial at all, I, under the directive of, or io concert with, the Lord Advocate, made the above mo tion, for the purpose of exciting a prejudice against Mr. Stuart, unfavourable to his &reser. " As I believe that these statements could only Save been made by you, in goner entre of . your beteg igaorant of the real facts of the Caw:, alid . of your having received false in• formation on the suhjeet, I deem it right to iuferm you that 1 was I. no way employed oat the trial of Mr. Stuart, cud bad u• einanseuicattou with the Lord Advocate in regard to it. Some time previous to the trial of Mr. Stuart, I was retained by the private agent of Mr. Alexander, as Coursed fur him in certain actions, our of which was the criminal prosecution at his instance agaiust Burthwick. The Lord Advocate nei ther advised uur a., consulted as to any of the proceediags in this action, in so far as is known to nee, and the motion I made as to the removal of the • Plicate* was the result of my own professional opinion, sod in discharge of what I conceived to be my dilly to my client Alexander. "At the time I made that motion it l as the intention of Menem,.e and his Counsel to proceed with the trial of Barth wick i sod it was not until after Mr. Stuart'. trial that this intrusion was relinquished. In cotaingeo this resolution, the Counsel for Alexander were in no respect actuated by any regard to the wishes of Ike LG. d Advocate, with *hum they held uo communication us the subject. " I believe that when the Lord Adeueate left Edinburgh he did not litrow that the iutentiou of trying Burthwick had been absoduaeil ; and even if be had known it he amid trot have prevented the prusei whin being given up. " 1 certainly have reason to complete that my conduct should have been thus publicly attacked, without any pie 'Pious notice hams' beta gives to me, or•ony prowl' inquiry made as le the fads. /led I trust you will not hesitate to ;Hake the ouly reparation in your poser fur ilse injurious misrepreemstation which you have, uniutentionally 1 believe, given of my coudoct, by communicating to me the haw.- onetime on which you proceeded, mid the source from which You oletaiued is, mid by taking the earliest opportunity of publishing this statement of thy facts of the case, iu the . . of Poetises*, aad Acs limpness., not to Wry late any vs. planation with respect to expressage, or sentiments impaled to me„ on the autborrty of newspapers alone. " It is satisfactory to, me to find that, at fir as my memorz serves me, to remit what I did say, it is substuutially con firmed by the stateaseet in yowr letter. " I have the (gnawer 1p be, Sir, . " Tier last obedient alerva t at I/1.11 °J. A MA 111101110111 I` I feel no loclinaltq&M) A O eitiltellelli t lYppl " F l ite l 4• I 3,, •. • , above correspondence. I shall, be command with sayieg that,' forth as a fair report of Mr. Abercromby's speech, hoperpor motion were by very strong insomnia mid implication awl hated to me. Such inspentiors I regard with the most per ked/nor, kW I kale BOW shewo that, whoever was the real saki of then, they wire altogether now ted, groaned false. "t anti Sir, foes " rt. 111 ENV E 11 .4 r. COUBTENAY then said, be could taut hook at the whole of this ease, the prblication of the correspondence withrbit ememmate thereon, without cos to the oplekos . that it bad bees published for an i Mims perpone; wed, in his opinion, to notertain each • purpose, and to net tepee it, against a Member of that Nome, fee my ding which might have been clop! or said by him ie hie pimp, ie the discharge of hit ditty as a Member, was • Irmo violation of its prlvilegle. A einem/tame which proved sash to be the initiation of the writer le this instance, was his not thinking proper to send his awas-age in reply through the inoffeasive amused by which he had received the letter of the Moe. Member, the hands of Mr. Henry Cockburn, but his having mat them up to tows to be published is • newspaper. The Marquis of LONDON DEICRY said .he felt am the smallest hesitant)* regarding the question of breech of yid ' mime, sad under all the ciresentames of the ease bethought the House should order the atteedamee of the pert, at its bar. Mr. COURTENAY then moved, " That the said publica tion taking notice of the speech or a Member in ibis House, is a breath ere its Frieder.," which was agreed to. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY then said, this ap peered to him to be a case in which the Home shareed Mt eatangk heel' with forum but should order the atiendestbe of Mr. 111211311141 le the first imitation. Mr. BROUGHAM thought with the Noble Lord, diet this was precisely that sort of ease in which the Home ought not to be guided by a strict adherence to fosses; form was the headman of justice, and should not be made the memo of defeating it. ff they fused • letter pub lished, signed wnb a person's name, modem forth the name of the street and the snubber of the House le which he resided, he thought that was presumptive proof seMeiently strong to justify them Is taking that perms to be the author of such letter, sad proceeding in the direct exercise towards him of those inquisitorial powers with which the Howse was Invested, for the purpose of dealing with eases of this Plod. Mr. COURTENAY then moved "Thad Mr. Menzies be ordered to attend at the bar of the House to-morrow (this day) se'seiglit."—Ordeved. COTTAGE TAX IN SCOTLAND. Lord A. HAMILTON said, when he looked st the easalb mesa of the son, only 7,000 L produced by the tae of which he rose personal to entice I. move the repeal, and wives he re collected that the Hone hail remedy remitted a am n Mach larger in f of loelawd, is the repeal of the Hearth sad Winslow Tax, he hoped be should have little daintily in prrsindieg the House to remit this sum also, especially when it was considered that in its mode of collection k was mach move obuox'ous than by the amount of the sum which is drew from the pocks@ of the people. By a clause le the Act of Parlinewoo, person wereelrtlpte d from this las se producing a certificate stigma y dye neigh hours that they were usable from poverty to pay it. lint when it was neeidered what was the towable and income silence necessary io loamy parts of this canny Croon their being thinly inhabited, and the rugged Were of the coot. try, to token such ornikales, the Noose, he was sere,would believe that in many cases persons would rather put them selves to considerabfe incuorealence to pay the small sum droned d Jef four shillings sod sixpenee, then undergo the trouble and mortifeation of procuring oath • certificate. He hoped, thereftire, • there would be no objection to his moving Bar leave to being in a Bill to exempt •H houses in Scotland under the real of Of. a year, from the tea of 4s. SJ. a year imposed by the Int of the 43J of Geo. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the tali month the Noble Lord wished to repeal was the lowest rate of the Wisdow Tom I. Great Britaiu, amountiug to 4s. 81, is Scotland, sad to lit. Si. in Hoglund, which was levied on houses sot having more then ell wiadows, the rent of which did not exceed 61 • year. Now, when the House considered that there appeared by the Corporation Relines of Scotland to be in that part of the kingdom 400,000 habits ions, of which 111,200 were charged to the Window Tax in ell Its gradatioss, leaving abaut 190,000, that is, about two-thirds of the whole of the houses in Scotland not liable to any I chavge at all, it would see that it could not fairly be pre sented that this tax pressed with any undue degree of se verity on any port of the population that was fairly ssbjrct M rich • charge. The Serjeant at Arms el this period prevented himself at the table and made some econowaniestion to lilt Speaker, who stated that the :dean-ogee oho had been dispatched with ae Order of the Mouse was then is atteedanee, and pot the ejavolioe fur his being called in, which being agreed to, the Messenger sae called in, and, weeding at the her, was ex. maned by the SPEAKER— What is your ease ?—lansuel Spitler. Did yin carry the Older of ate House to Mr. Abereroon by's ?-1 did. Whom did you see ?—A servant. What conversation had yea with that servant ?-1 asked if Mr. Abercromby was at home, as I wanted to see bias ? He said " No." I then asked hem whether he wool.' be at home to day' VI hat anger was relented —That be went oat Wines twelve arid two o'clue4, and, as the same; uneleredoed. Om created. towmde Barnet, and is not expected to retain till eight or tee days. Did he say where he was gone ? —He said he did sot know. The SPEA Er Nl*, a ithdra• - - - The Messenger then withdrew. The Marrow of LONDONDERRY then rose, *nil its • tune of vole. Daily mandible is the gallery, sogrested that the Speaker should issue his wariest. The Noble Land them approached close to the hiseaker's chair, and after some is. audible CIMItC1114114)11 with the Right lion. Geollentaa sinned his place, and said, an order having already Lees issued by the House, be did ant think soy lacklustret pre. tending was necessary. The SPEAKER said the House having beard the answers a the messeuger, be contrived no farther order sass ne cessary, but that the oflicer• of the Howse should make every possible exertion to serve the former orders. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then re. turned. Scotland, be said, paid sow a much smaller pr.,. portion than England to this tax; and any remission of II to the former country would be unjust, and afford grounds of compl•trit to the lower classes of the peoply of England. The Noble Lord objected to the certificate required of the inability of those persons who claimed the exemption, ors Ike gruuud of poverty. But he (the Cbaacellur) thought it evi dent, from the 'lumber of houses that were exempted, that that clause of the Ace must base upi rated very extenaiscly. lie had au objection, however, to cousider before the seat Seari..ii, if any mode of exemption could be devised that would apply more equally to the circumstances of Scotland. Mr. J. P. GRANT was sure his Noble Friend would 14311 C nouhj.etios to withdraw his 1111000$1, is eousideratiuu of the plonitie of the Right Honourable Gentlemeo. The Ho. uourable Member then punned out some of the rrigi• Litwin is the Alt reayeeting cottages of small value, 11144, 4 i 1 ) . • ,' t. 1 , - ..e., . 1 liet he i t o gr e s ~ . _ : ) j at w t a t aistalelheet a 11111 . Le l ea tt 44 , _ t # : - t ! .t. to. lorot.ia;.o. Its outt... - Inltatf o lv oi Ljek a WO • idoCts iavite their notice coetaieed=. ise ' ) . set. It was in cpsaaphlet, oppoeite wlllitit ' I • : 40 1 1.1 1 :0 1 , OI . 1 for I ~, "' 11, e` ' poor most i *4* • • Mr. Joho Hope, roapiaineOsoilo Ma C. WYNN , .1 • La ' I thee ~e . ." . s : a , v I .he 1 k m, . 4, . 1 4.-- . • " • lest mport to the privileg the Neese. for preseatlee the pneeep ~. 1/ 0 . es l o4- ~0 . - • • vallo .1 . , ' - I hoe jo 'vett 110 h oo pricers , e iediwiirib-1 (frown*. He nogg move Isis wictir el 4 eaters her the - •, three thi hands of 5 ;Hem liberal d inipreper hapax , w ich coral be ; Member be roplred to attend in Isis place Neill ..,1 1 'it . letters, w Hateonneent which boo vends ma be (Mr. 010 W. 1111/6NZIES, ESQ, ADVOCA E. ier of Parliament—Ole Hoe. and 1 coaceived that there was grossed enough respect" • Tierney) should be glad to know if . any geelleese eivelti roil- ---...--..-tt New-atatet,_Serbsp..gapleas.._. • neelleaortrot peassive of the rintedlofpriviiree already laid for peoceedtag to that valll."7".".• .. 101181 "4" 4 " *klieg lad oPflicition of that o****"., i• -11 ;" . * a Srit,— - roi Yeariiit Se Wooer of receiving your let. a* lafhoneee or control over the statensenis direct charges of improper, personal, Mr. LINK ES thought this a limy singular mune. ma , r an itern.part he shoold fed incheed to stole IBIS asi la • 'l aph i nt , H a yi ng o the exposition made by Mr. Aber - , agreed that this ease differed entirely from that of Mr. Hob. aggravated cue Mtn Hirt of Mr. Hope. The wholit conta i ne d i n ne ,,, pnp „, of what I may have said is neje. - -•-• - . . . ~..., __.•._ LB ...... k... 4 ow. •Li •••••••••A••••• L... 1 1........... 1.....••.1 ;ea • Noma...ammo /so it. ' - - • ... • ..... 0 . 404 • • i t. ,to to require redtslon. He also Wiention a ISt ad occurred within his knowledge, ober. erea4l,ggre4 men, at the distaaee of 36 miles hum the to. ilifehillpraMlecter resided, were called upon to go to it teemplife capease of which journey would not be less lb lbs.-weeder to pay the tax of 4s. sd. or 55.; and being t able, they did net go. The masequrece was, (hat an oe , igLespLyp to distraielbeet for the amount of the I. who demanded of the '""'isnits people roi bi► Psi That be regarded as seam of ist(olerable hardship. bpi. be was cot prepared $ say that d house in say part of G. Britain wof yield .ii rent, should pay • tax four.uhittrucs. . 'I The CH ANC tlettnifti t nen EtiVik Mr. HUMS Al ly in the observatitres o Noble Frteed,Mtilthe Ilemelmeher fee Tairistock (Mr. J. Grant), sod limped is the nor.e of the summer soave nit would be adopted of ifuhriik relief to the class of per.. who were subject to thisstas. • •IIer—LOCICHART agreed with the Chaseellor of , iliebstqwer iaribieetieg essay partial remissioa of taxes, Lord A. HAMILTON thee consented so withdraw gsation. IT'ATE OP THE NATION. Mr: WESTERN they tme, and adverting to titirladeri of She hoer mud the state of the Holm!, said, Gentl.:w would see that it could Sot be inrt to brie' girt niretio• of whigli be lemil give• notice soder tbese Moues. It nap, lowers,. his determination to brio' it f weird its Hoe nook comprehmssive mangier, to embrace • vi of. the *bole stale of the nation before the Semi= clot Hip inientiou was to let it eland over for to-morrow (t dai), aid is the ,eveat of not being able to brio' it them, be would fix am arlj day wben be could bring it ward. Sir. HVSKISSON soneeted diet it would be better Ix a day at once. Mr. WESTERN said, ow examining the /order book, Ronne root difficulty to entwine • day. The motion rept to the Poor Laws, wbkli stood for tomorrow, did oat pear hint, S. crams moth disems.iett t be Was, therefore. doted tri Ia lownsorrow mod theme it could sot then co, -on, Toioday Midi fur briogiog forward his modes. BREWERS IN SCOTLAND. Lord A. HA MILTON rum to call the wearies of Howie to the Memorial of certain Brewers hi Serrelawd to t Lords of the Terming. TON years aro au Ad Mai pass. voiding from every brewer in Setotlanil, wader a permit! 2001. a Worn cl< all the beer brewed by hins the elfish Bert oat each da, the samosa all She parrhalwa, sad t quantity delivered to Melt. That was a return ethic*, fro, the mode Mrcondeming.the haskess a brewers in Scalise', eorld not he made. Ou • motion made, by him I. th at Howse or the subject, the Cheseellor of the Emelt/yam frinimilsed that instructions should be seat down to iMbomm tbe Oiled* of the E.Sciee to take the retort's is oath • saw as weild relieve the brewers from the dielealry of which '111!y complained. lastractione were accordingly sept doie 'which it was fooadequeally impossible to comply with. A vac war:trial oa the subject was forwarded to the Trealeri,te els answer was retotwed that the Act could bit be Advil or re pea led, because It was secemary for she ardwity of the mi nor. He, however, de4ed any body to piratic that It bad brew meted wpm t, mid he maisitahved that he had • right • • complaia of the brewers of Scotland bring liable to a rest 0,2001 fee maisreamptimme with as Act with which it was it possible to comply, mad equally so for fisting to fol4l t iestrectiows of the Excise, which were at radium* with s', Act, sad equity ,ilopesailale of (sedition. He therefo , • moved for kayo tit feria( in a Bill to repeal the 4th seetio of the Act of the mid td George IV. eap. . The CHANCELLOR of the - EXCHEQUER mkt, Lc could not coocor is the proposition of the Nubia Lord, he the obeervatiuse with which he had prefaced R. The A • Is siorstion wait memory as a cheek ere* the atee► of ma . 'hi the hoods of the beewer, which could only be kept 1 7 imeertaiaisr the cousonaptios of his stock of beer. bad never heard any comphaint of the Gent* of tl Act is England Meet a very siert time after it woo passe mid nose front Scotland hot the one brought forward ti the Noble Lord. He admitted there was a 'anise* hetwet the Act and the instructions of the Esti'', hot as it, COMO,* of the Board of Excise was accessory, I. order t• the proseestios of es Mforeoweiew ender the Act, tM Rib - Load's fears of damper to the Mayen fees that enact wer► v i s i onar y. Rik. 3. P. GRANT "obi It watt etortNerl that the A. could not be execoted, yet t►e only spolirgy,Mlered was, the. so pearliest toeusweaieeee had been espiticoesd. Lord A. HAMILTON briefly replied. Hama he woai dose oat a ease Si soot►er Scioto', in order to tadhceottu Hooourable Gentknien to take part with him is his elide: Wow, tOrOCIIIO the repeal of t►e clause of which be etc ' plaiord. The questios was them put, aid argatived without a d •isiuu. IRISH INSURRSCTION ACT. The Report of the Arish lowreeclio■ Let was reeeivec wed the Bell ordered to be read a third times"' Thursday. After a few words in opposition from Lo►d A. HAblll. TON ► the Loiter) Bill woo rued a second time. RECEIVERS GENERAL Oa the Order of the Day Sir the farther eonaitlerolka the Report on the Reeeivoro-Granal Billy the Noose wer rat. • Cossatitice, whom Mc HUME moved an ansentheeal, limiting the saheb of the Reeeivers, so that they sbuteld not be kas thou 300: altar, and nut more that' 6001. Mr., R. SMITH said, that after the fall inquiry given to this subject in she Committee stud the almost entire enewl• mite of sentiment that prevailed there, in which those tinmeis more immediately cossetted with Go...easiest vim joined, he was mach astonished at the ships *bleb tbr steam,* had sow taken. It was so well 'attention! that the opisioa of the Committer would be acquiesced ea by Goverament, that the Committee had dew what was very uneonsmon, they Lad prints d their Report with out ilia evideaea The Bill Arm brought is warp is aim fortuity to the recommendation of the Committee; bet liks all Bills from the Treasury, it was full of isissesbia deist mar, sod it was as he understood recommitbd, .ably for the purpose of briar scratched into Englich. He hod *at allierwards !wilted to tee if that Lad been door, aad it was skis peat surprise that be wow bend the clause Smiths( the salaries to 1001. a year bad been altered. and a clause isserkd enabling the Government to allow 3001. • )ear for exposes thus altering She maximum of the Committee from SW. to 900 f. a year. He would put it to the Committee whether this was a fair mode of making the akeratiisn. Had it not bee• wee by the Hou animas of the Committee, he believed It would have passed without settee. He biped lbc Hos Gentlemen opposite would, at least, thew on abet grease they had thus Neill, rescinded the dorrunisatioa of ge Committee, which they hod come to us, the matures' deli Mr. LUSH INGTON mid duet was red Ike bast fees dation in justice for the complsout of the 11, r. Nlembei. iMe. 1-belgoatee.) did riot feel that GolVVllnselil w .h` louse were bowed impleitly to abide by the rcrussairsaa (lea of • Committee. (The Has. Meiiiber hers referred to • minute of the Massey, to whew the desire of Gonna. meet to set up to the reitensmoadal ion ur she Committee.; Bait It was Rot till be had several colisstesiiuus with Its Commissioners tat Tases that it seas foubd that the eeri► tatter of the public nut" is She way proposed by the VA. would be aiti stied with g.est diliesitiee, and the caper* . greater than that sow adopted. The silteratioa howbeit beer made without say notice, arose swirly Yeses the prewar* id business is the Home: lee the last teal Ilwerthe there heel been no opportssity for him to mentiou it. He proposed by the Bill that the stalaties'Amisid be according to the eateot she district sad the labour that would be likely to be pre formed, sad he voutendol that the plan proposed by the SW would be more economical, wad more safe, dean that a the COlNdliillet. Mr. It. SMITH !Sought the discovery of the impraetirebi• lily came rather late. If the Coeuruisrioa. rof Toles mils mot bays gives endear* of it before the Committee, might et least have bees mentioned at the hem or Komi ✓eading of the Mr. HUDSON GURNEY said, that in weeny inflow , 6001. • year would set be sothmeut. se Ilia tigresses souk amount to nearly all the nioitcy. Sir. BANKSb thought it was a little extraordinary lb/11 II spice of teelre gtuutlie true the filet printiq of lift Ad , 41•••• I