The Sun. — London, England, 1859-11-30 00:00:00

SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 30, 181 TEE SHIPPING INTEREST. GREAT MEETING AT THE LONDON TAVERN. A general meeting of shipowners, shipbuilders, shipmasters, shipping tradesmen, and others inte rested in shipping, was held yesterday afternoon at the L on donTavern,Bishopsgate-street," to take into consideration the present ruinous condition of the British shipping interest, and to adopt peti tions to Parliament praying fora comprehensive, searching, and impartial inquiry into the actual state of British Navigation, and the causes that have led to its present depression, as well as into all the laws and regulations under which it is now conducted." The large room, platform, and gallery were densely crowded by the most influential members of the classes interested; the chair being occupied by Mr. R. W. Crawford, M.P., for the City of London. Amongst the gentlemen presentlwe ob served Lord Valletort, M.P., Mr. Somes, M.P., Sir J. Duke M.P., Mr. S. Cave , M.P. , Mr. H. Taylor, M.P., Mr. W. S. Lindsay'. M.P., Col. Sykes, M.P., Mr. D. Seymour, M.P., Mr. Lever, M.P., Mr. Jas. Beasley, Liverpool; Mr. Wm. Drew, Mr. George Marshall, Mr. Duncan Dunbar, Mr. G. F. Young, Vice-Admiral Collier, C. 8., Mr. Wigram, Mr. B. Carrol, Cork ; Mr. John Allen, M. A. G. Robin- . ron, Mt. F. Somes, Mr. G. Seymour, Mr. A. Ridley, Mr. W. H. Tindall, Captain Gilmour, R.N., Mr. J. G. H. Holmes, Mr. J. Alcock, Mr. J. Anderson, Mr. Bramley-Moore, Mr. F. Young, Mr. N. Gould, Mr. H. Westmorelund, Mr. F. Goodliffe, Mr. C. A. Stewart, Mr. W. Temperley, Mr. W. Phillips, Mr. H. T. Wilson, Liverpool ; Mr. M. J. Wilson, Liver pool; Mr. M. Barwise, Whitehaven ; Mr. W. 0. Young, Mr. Smurthwaite, Mr. M. D. Rucker, Mr. 0. Bevine, Captain Domett, Mr. M. Pratt, Captain Shuttleworth, Captain Toiler, Mr. C. Magnay, Captain Were, Captain Onslow, Mr. G. Offer, Mr. J. Rogers, Captain Trew, Mr. Shepherd, Mr. Bonus. The following gentlemen attended as deputations from the undermeitioned ports : Hull—Mr. H. J. Atkinson, deputy-chairman Shipowners' Committee. Middlesborough-on-Tees—Mr. B. Holmes. Montrose—Mr. W. Baglehole. Topsham—Mr. J. Holman and Mr. A. Holman. Scarborough—Mr. T. B. Walker. Liverpool—Mr. S. Smith and Mr. F. A. Clint, chairman and deputy-chairman of Shipowners Society. West Hartlepool—Mr. J. G. Wishart and Mr. B. Holmes. Sunderland—Mr. Taylor Potter, Mr. T. C. Sirney, and Mr. Waite. Letters of apology, regretting inability to attend the meeting, were received from Lord Stanley, M.P., Baron Meyer De Rothschild, M.P., Mr. Fe nwick, M:P., Mr. Ayrton, M.P., and Sir Hugh M. Cairns, M.P. Letters were also received from the following Shipowners' Societies, cordially agreeing with all the objects of the meeting, but not considering it necessary to send a delegation :—Glasgow,Greenock, Plymouth, B rix ham, Mal don , Jersey, Yarmouth, North Shields, Dover, Bristol, Falmouth, and Swansea. On the motion of Mr. G. F..YouNa, seconded by Mr. G. MARSHALL, Mr. Crawford, M.P., was voted to the chair unanimously. The CHAIRMAN then rose and said that he had come that day as one of the representatives of the City of London, at the request of many gentlemen in the city for whom he entertained great personal respect, and that as to his own personal feeling in the matter, when it was first proposed to him to come there and take part in the proceedings, he felt, and the 'expressed it to the gentlemen who waited upon him, that some misapprehension might arise lest The opinions which, as a public man, he was well known to have entertained on certain matters ofdeep interest, might be considered so far out of unison with them as to render his presence questionable. How ever if his presence could in any way be advantageous to the meeting he should be pleased. He was much gratified to find, from explanations given tohim, that it wouldbe perfectly consistentwith his own opinions, and every sentiment he had uttered on the subject, to attend there that day and render himself as ser viceable as he could, and to promise them that, whether in or out of Parliament, it would afford him the greatest personal satisfaction to render to the shipping interest every assistance in his power. . It was not only as a matter of duty that he had come there. He was himself in early life - a ship , owner. He could, therefore, readily appreciate the. proeeedings of those who complained of the difficul ties under which that interest laboured, and, as a merchant largely connected with the East, could bear testimony to the distressed state of that trade. He had hadan opportunity of forming a clear opi nion of the extent of that distress, and as a public man and an individual he could not but view with deep concern the state of things which they had assembled to consider., When he reflected on the magnitude of the shipping interest of this kingdom, and the various interests that depended upon it, he conceived it to be his duty to his constituents, as a mattter of sympathy with.the shipping interest, as a matter of public policy, as a merchant, and as an • individual, to render any assistance in his' power towards attaining the objects for which the meet ing had been convened, viz., to take into considera tion the present isainous condition of the shipping interest. It was not for him in any way to antier . pate the observations that would be addressed to them by the gentlemen who had taken chargeasf • the various resolutions, but it might not be out of place if he told them how matters now stood as far as reeearded the Legislature. At the close of the a session of 1858 he gave notice in the House of Com mons that earlyin the following session, aboat the beginning of February, he should move for the appointment of a committee of inquiry into the ope ration upon shipping of certain acts of Parliament. These aets of Parliament' were, first, Lord Camp bell's Act,-which was never intended when passed to apply to shipping; secondly, the Merchant Ship ping Act, which comprised the whole of the legise lation bearing directly upon the shipping interest ; and lastly, the Passengers' Act ; for it seemed to him that very much of the disqualification under which the British shipping interest laboured was more or less to be attributable to the operation of these experimental acts. (Cheers.) When Parlia ment assembleg. he was prepared to bring forward - his resolution at a suitable time; but in the mean time Mr. Lindsay, who was probably unaware of his notice being on the -books, 'gave notice of a Com mittee of inquiry ieto the burdens upon shipping. Now, his object was to do his duty, and to serve the interests of the shipowners and the shipping community generally. Therefore, when Mr. Lid say, with the large knowledge which he could bring to bear upon the subject, and the per sona l expe rience he had acquired, was willing to undertake the duty, he was ready, not to take the big drum, but to play the second fiddle on the occasion, and was glad to find, when the motion was brought be - fore the,house. that an unanimous assent was given to it. The difference between the two motions was this—Mr. Lindsay's object was to inquire into the . burdens on shipping—that was to say, into the fiscal burdens upon shipping—and his lion. friend stated in very clear terms the nature of those bur dens, and the course of inquiry which he proposed. Those Burdens were the passing tolls, the local dues, the duties upon timber, the light dues, and other imposts of that description, which formed, as it were, a fiscal charge upon the shipping interest. His views were so far different from those of Mr. Lindsay that he thought the main difficulties Under which the shipping interest laboured were owing to legal requirements and restrictions. A commit tee was granted. It met but once. It met to choose a chairman, whom he should be glad to see chosen as chairman again if the committee should be re appointed—he meant Sir 0. Lewie—because he was perfectly certain, whatever opinions he might entertain, there was no man better able to bring his mind to an examination amid elucidation of any question which came before him. The committee met once, and shortly afterwards they were sent about their business —some, he was sorry to say, not to return. When the new Parliament met Mr. Lindsay did him the favour of asking his opinion as to the course which oaght to be pur sued, and he replied that he thought it would be very unwise during the short session' before them to go into anything like a critical examination of the subject, and that it had better be postponed. In that position they now stood, and this meeting ava.4 therefore called upon to give the subject its consideration. and hear certain resolutions which would be proPonnded for their acceptance. It seemed to be that the first (laity which a committee would lave to enter upon would be to obtain an clucida- ti on of that which they wou ld a t once feel required no. proof, viz., the distress which existed, and the IV dure of that distress ; and be would take that op prrtunity of recommending that gentlemen should pi!epare t hemselves carefully to come before a corn riiitTee with clear and distinct evidence as to the eluttacter and nature of the distress complained of. Let them, for instance, be prepared to explain the n attire of the distresa P tif the shipowners in connec ti on with the American trade ; let-others show how 1 they stood with res p ect to t h e Eastern trade ; and, I let others show their position with regard to the corrtinental trade. S'egain. let them show whether the distress of whielt they complained was confined to filenaselves, or whether it was shared in by other natk,ns. Then let witnesses come fully prepared to I state in what respect British shipping laboured under disoualificviong which other nations did not complain of. Let thorn show if a ship cost more to buiAl and put together in this country than in the ‘;. r c United States, or the Baltic , o r ai vywher e else b •ingear l wherein that di ff erence existed; let the ta proof,that there were certain restrict ( Ins Weighing on British interests which it w as the duty of the Houk of Commons to remove, atidhe w( suld venture to say that if those thing s were distinctly 'stated, and the committee reported them to the hous find the House of Cop was ping i n t er est woul d i'mons e, the ship not 'b ac kward in removing volve th ose re sa `rictions. (Cheers.) Then there were other questior ts ia - . d. in the inquiry of Mr. Lindsay—those i a slatang to passing tolls, local dues, lights, and vapee. - Z ally the duties on timber. ,He looked - upon :the duties on foreign timber used in th e coisstrusl tion of vessels in t ngland as one of t he groatest grievances which the shipping interest l tad to klom plain of, and he should be happy to sec end. or pro mote any movement which might hay e the eft:set of relieving shipowners from that impo: tt. (Hear.) Then there were the legal restrictions : which sire rounded the shipping interest, but into that subject he need not then enter. They were all capable of , understanding to what extent 'the c h it ises of the Merchant Shipping Act operated prejt idicially tb the shipping interest, and they were as ware that, in consequence of the absurd and ridiculous provi sions Of the Passengers' Act, the passenger traffic had to a great extent been driven fromtl his country and placed in the hands of foreigners. (i dear, hear.) Having made these remarks, he would only repeat that it would afford hina.the greatest sit tisfaction if ho could be instrumental in any way itt removing the difficulties under which shipowners Were labour ing. (Cheers.) Mr. SOMES, M.P. for Hull, nsoved the: first reso lution as follows :—" That in the month. of Decem ber of the past year the shipping interest, with an unanimity without precedent, dechlred by public f resolution that British shipping was 'in addressed deplorable and ruinous depression,' a nd__. s a o the Crown, praying for a specific mea sure of relief. That the executive government, whirs: admitting the feet of depression, declared it in :reply to be ' temporary and accidental,' and that :British navi gation was eventhen 'recovering' therar om ; while the shipowners insisted that, its princi,nal cause being the impolicy of the existing system of mari time commerce, no permanent improvemeot could take place while that system remained unaltered. That nearly 12 months have submitted to tie test of practical experience the correctness of these respective opinions ; and that at the .expiration of that time the shipping interest of ale .ceuntry now finds itself placed in a position of contin.nect depres sion, difficulty, and distress, threatening the rum' a all who are engaged in the varied and extensive pursnits connected with navigation." Having read the resolution, Mr. Somes added that he was pain fully aware of the facts it set forth ; that it received his hearty concurrence, and that unless some remedy werespeedily devised for the relief of tl ae shipowners an inquest would have to Ise held upon that body. 1 (Laughter and cheers.) Mr. BRAMLEY-MOORE, who, on coming for ward was loudly applauded, said he had al ways felt a deep interest in this question. He was not ashamed that he took an active part in opposing the repeal of the navigation laws in 1845, and he saw no reason to change the opinions he then entertained, after an experience of ten years. (Cheers.) But he felt called upon to say that he thought the shipping interest bad not been true to themselves, and that they had treated the question with too great delicacy, and not with that freedom of 'remark which was required to enlighten the British community in the provinces. It had often crossed his mind that some acute person in the shipping trade ought to imitate the example set by Lord St. Leonards and others, and publish a " Handy Book of Shipping." (Hear, hear.) It would be of the greatest use to enlighten the people in this country, for , they knew little about the grievances experienced by the shipping interest; and without the shipping interest, what would be come of this great nation ? (Hear, hear.) Why, it was upon our maritime supremacy that we depended, and the royal navy would have to seek long for men if our commercial navy were once to go down. (Cheers.) He had always looked upon the shipping interest as most important to the general interests of the nation. Upon that ground he should take his stand, and had he no interest in shipping he should declare his opinion that the existing laws ought never to have passed, and, that they ought now to obtain some modification of them. (Hear, hear.) He might perhaps be allowed to remind them that the parties who brought forward the re peal of the navigation laws raised the cry through out the nation that they were to have their goods carried cheaply% What had been the result ? His hon. friend the member for Stoke (Mr. Ricardo) promised tiae potters of Staffordshire as an effect of the repeal of the navigation lo i sys that they should have cheap carriage for their crates. But what was the result ? They had now to pay more for freights of rough carriage than before the repeal of the na , vigation laws. It might appear to be an anomaly, and would appear to be to those who did not under- I stand the question; but the introduction of foreign shipping competing with ours, and not having the same burdens, had enabled the foreigners to run away with the fine freights, which they could carry at low freights and still with large profits, and that threw the rough freights on the British, who mud of necessity have a higher freight than they would charge under other circumstances: Take, far ex ampl, our carrying trade to any Spanish colony. The Spanish ship carried all the fine goods at a freight, which she could command, higher than the British ship, on account of the differential duties to be laid on the goods on their arrival at their desti nation. The Spaniards were wide awake, and would not carry rough freights. The consequence was that the British must charge for them more than they did before, when there was a combination of rough and fine freights together. (Hear.) . But there was not only the carrying outward; there was also the bringing home the return cargo. Let him instance the carrying trade, for example, to France. Coffee in a French bottom paid 565. duty per kilogramme, but coffee imported in a British ship paid 84s. Sugar imported in a French bottom paid 685., but when imported in a British bottom it paid 84s. (Hear.) Tobacco paid 4s. in a French bottom, but im ported in a British ship it paid Bs. He did not com plan of this provided we looked to our own interests at home. Every country had a right to impose any duties it pleased ; but in a national point of view, and regarding the interests of this great community, we should look to British interests in the first in stance, and do that before we promoted the interests of fifeigriers. (Cheers.) Ho was not afraid of any competition with British ships. What he demanded was a clear stage and no favour. (Loud cheers.) Let him mention the blind thrown out in the recent treaty with Belgium. It was trumpeted throughout the country that we made the treaty with Belgium I upon the reciprocity principle, and that our shipping was placed upon an equal footing and equal rights with the shipping of Belgium. He had read this in dozens of newspapers, but not one went into the minutiae and particulars of the treaty ; and if they read further than the preamble, which declared it to be one of reciprocity, they would find clause 5 excepting the important articles sugar, rice, coffee, dye stuffs, and almost every consumable article imported into Belgium. (Hear.) Yet this was tho treaty which was put forth as one of reciprocity, and received as such in the provinces to this day. (Hear.) We now wanted to man our navy. How could we do it except through the merchant marine; and he was glad toisee that the board of Admiralty had taken a step in the right direction by having a reserve for the navy, for it was as necessary,to have a reserve for the navy as it was to have a standing army for the protection of this country. (Hear, hear.) How would they maintain that reserve unless they maintained and encouraged the com mercial marine ? Since we had allowed foreigners to take the place of British seamen in British ships, what had been their conduct on several occasions ? Why, that in cases of wreck the foreign crew had deserted the vessel and passen gers, and left them to their fate. Foreigners were destitute of those British feelings which ani mated the British tar, who was ready to risk his life to save the passengers and the cargo, if it was in his power. (Cheers.) There was one honourable exception in the case of the noble Maltese on board the Royal Charter. (A voice, " He is a British sub ject.") (Laughter.) Still he was a Maltese, and he mentioned him with honour and credit, as an exception to what we might expect from foreigners. One of those things which have been of great im portance in manning the navy and the protection of British interests, was the coasting trade. If the qUeition were put to Englishmen, not ono in 10,000 were aware that foreigners were carrying on the coasting trade round our shores at this moment It was no exaggeration ; and when ho put the ques tion to individuals, they expressed surprise. He remembered when the bill was introduced for throwing open the coasting trade to foreigners that it was said it was of no consequence, as no a. Lreigner wou ld ava il hi mse l f of the privilege. He said, why th en grant the ut pr i i n vile n g d e ? they The l might.ti i end of tile wedge was p depend upon it th a t f rom year' to year it would be driven hom e , an d • so sure l y as that was the case would British sail ors di m i n i s h i n number, and con sequently the supply of men for the navy be dimi nished also. Ile found by th e B oar d o f T rade re turns that, in 1831, there were 285 entries of fel eign Teasels, comprising a tonnage of 47,000 employed in the coasting trade. In the ton months of the present. year ending in October, between Great Britain and Ireland, there were 68 foreign vessels entered, making an aggregate tonnage of 9 ; 000 tons, aad the whole of the vessels for the ten months round our shores were 367, comprising a tonnage of 58,603 tons. This portion of the trade, then, was increasing, and would increase, because the foreigners: could navigaie our shores, and could live cheaper than the British sailor. He did not want to deprive foreigners of the privilege, but asked that British seamen should be placed upon an equal footing, and that we might run the race of competis tion on the same terms. Let him also point to the advantage the foreigner enjoys from which we were excluded, and that was the trade withour own colo nies. Would it be too much to ask from France and - Belgium that we should carry produce to their colonies on the same terms as they brought their produce to England—in other words, to carry to France our sugar on those terms of equality on which she brought sugar here ? At present we were debarred from that, and we gave them the bonus of c ompeting with us in our colonial trade, involving £80,000,000 annually; and he thought, when we had so much to give away, we might well ask them to give us something in return. (Hear, hear.) For I our concessions no foreign nation had yet given anything in return. On the repeal of the naviga tion laws a clause had been introduced which was intended to blind the British shipowner, and that douse promised that if the repeal was not found to work well the Government should be invested with the power of putting on reciprocity duties by an Order in Council. (Hear.) Now he asked if the British shipowners had made out no case of griev ance or hardship to lay before Government to in- ' duce them to try the effect of that saving clause ? We were often told to look at the United States as an example of liberty, free trade, and everything. Let us then imitate the example of the United States, and just do what they had done, and we should have nothing to complain of. (Cheers.) What did the President of the United States say when Spain put differential duties on the " stars and stripes ? ' Why, he made short work of it, and said to Spain, " Very well ; if you will put on those differential duties, we will do the same." That soon settled the matter, The question of re ciprocity was at once met, and he believed they were now on a reciprocal footing with all the world. That was the way to deal with them ; not that we required even reciprocity with all the' world, because we could beat the world despite our burdens, but we could not forget that there was such a thing as being overburthened and over weighted. (Cheers.) He assured them that for himself he was an entire and thorough-going free trader; but his view of free trade was of this kind ; if I buy from you I expect the privi lege of selling to you as well. (Cheers.) He would deal with a nation as he would with an individual: and, if a nation could not concede a fair reciprocity upon every article, he would meet that nation, and have that article excluded. (Hear.) Last year we imported from France £14,000,000 in value of their manufacture, on which an enormous amount of la bour had been expended, and had yielded an im mense profit to the French nation. In the same time Fratine had taken from us £4,000,000 in value, and this was composed almost entirely of , unmsnu lectured articles, on which little or no labour had been expended. Oar exports consisted of only raw materials taken from the bowels of the earth and other sources, but in which no manufacturing la bour had been expended. Surely it would not be too much to ask France to receive on some defined moderate duties our crockery, woollens, and other manufactures, All this would tend to increase and ensure the peace of the world, and that prosperity of the shipping interest of both , which they had never known before, (Cheers.) Mr. LINDSAY here stepped forward to address the meeting, and his appearance was the signal for a perfect hurricane of groans and hisses, inter mingled with cheers. The hon, gentleman pro ceeded to address the meeting at some length, and with a Considerable display of physical energy ; but throughout his speech he was coustantly inter rupted by discordant shouts, cries of " Traitor !" " Off, off !" and other equally uncomplimentary terms: In the course of his- remarks, Mr. Lindsay said he did not rise from a' spirit of hcstility, for his object, was to proclaim to England and the Legislature that the Brit's' la interests for some time had suffered, and were still suffering, from great depression ; and he thought they were bound to consider the best mode by which the Legislature could relieve the shipowners from that depression. The resolution, stated " that the principal cause of the depression had been the impolicy of the existing system of maritime commerce." (Hear, hear.) Now, he held that the establishment of a free-trade policy, had nothing whatever to do with the present depression in the shipping trade, and therefore he was bound to come forward and offer his dissent. The resolution fur ther asked them to confirm a memorial which the Shipowners' Society of London this time last year, addressed to her Majesty. Ile for one could not be a consenting party to that resolution or memorial, because he firmly believed, that the opinions ex pressed therein were fallacious. That memorial urgently requested her Majesty to issue an Order in Council against those nations that have not re ciprocated with us. (Yes, yes, and no, no.) Let them look at the difference between voluntary re ciprocity and the enforcement of reciprocity by the ! Legislature. Enforced reciprocity, as asked for in the memorial, was protection to its fullest force. (No, no, and fair play.) It was so, because it was retaliation. (No, no, and great confusion.) It was a war of tariffs ; therefore it was protection in its most pernicious form. It was to go back, not merely to what ewe had in the days of Huskisson, but to the state of protection that existed in the days of Cromwell. (No, no). Was it our interest to retrograde ? Our course was onwards. A VOlCE—Rubbish. INDIGNANT SHIPOWNER— You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Mr. G. F. YOUNG—I rise to order. (Cheers.) Sir, I will not se far depart from the usages of debate as to introduce a speech on rising to order, but I submit that the course of the discussion is irregular and unfair. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member has publicly challenged me ,to discuss this particular point with him, and I have accepted his challenge; bat he has shrunk from it. I will, however, give him a challenge. (Confusion.) It is a question that I will not discuss here. (Hear, hear.) The CHAIRMAN decided that Mr. Lindsay was not out of order. Mr, LINDSAY continued—They had met to inquire what was the best policy to be pursued—first, for the nation at large ; and, secondly, for themselves as shipowners. (Cheers.) And the question before them was whether the reversal of free-trade policy would be best suited for the interests at large ? (Hisses and confusion.) Mr. G. F. YOUNG—Nu, we demand inquiry from the Legislature. Mr. LINDSAY contended that this resolution went to the root of free trade, and confirmed the memo rial of last year to the Queen. (Cheers.) Now, the answer given to the memorial by the Board of Trade of the I'rotectionist Government of Lord Derby, clearly and distinctlyproved that under a free-trade policy the British shipping had increased in a far greater ratiO than it ever did under a Protectionist policy. (No, no.) It had been proved that from 1842 to 1849 British ships built and registered increased 843,000 tons, that was during a period of recipro c ity ; but from 1850 to 1857 it had increased 1,670,000 tons, or more than double under free trade what did under protection. (Cries of " bosh") It had been further proved that the entries and clearances of British shipping nad increased—(hear, hear, no, no, " turn him out," and cries of " turncoat")—in a ratio equally us great as the tonnage built and re gistered. He could produce undeniable facts to prove that the British shipping interest, however much it might be distressed at tlthepresenttime, had been a gainer by free trade—(dissent)---- and that it was not for their interest to reverse that policy.. (Hear, and cries of " No, no.") If, then, instead of asking for an inquiry into the actual state of British naviga tion, and the causes which led to its present de pression, they adopted a simple resolution to the effect " That a petition be presented to both houses of Parliament, praying for an inquiry into the actual condition of British navigation, and for relief from all peculiar burdens and restrictions which fetter marititne enterprise," it would he a much preferable course ; Had any of them looked into. these burdens? He had done so ; and they were a serious hindrance to our onward progress. He could also tell them as a thinking man that they Were, vainly attempting to get what they called reciprocity enforced. They were . laSing a chance, a favourable opportunity, of obtaining relief from those burdens which still un justly oppressed the British shipowners. (A Voice— " What is the amount ?) Nearly £2,000,000 sterling, or 2 per cent. upon the amount of capital invested. Whilst that real grievance existed they were fol ic:living a shadow—(oh, oh)-.La shadow which they would neVer . Calch—a policy of . which. .there were lot 2Q supporters out of G5O members in the House of Commons.- . In conclusion, Mr. Lindsay moved as an amendment—" That a petition bo presented to bOth Houses of Parliament, praying for inquiry into the actual condition of British navigation, and for relief 6OM. ihe peculiar burdens and. restrictions which. still . fetter. maritime enterprise." Mr.- DUNCAN DUNBAR thought the resolution proposed by • Mr. Somas had been attacked in a somewhat unusual manner. (Hear, hear.) They were not met to discuss what had brought the shipping interest into its present condition. They would all admit they were QB the road to ruin. (Hear, and laughter.) There was not a person in the room who would dispute that assertion. The simple plan to pursue' was to go to the Houses of Parliament, and ask them to appoint committees to ascertain Whe ther the assertion was correct or not., 4s the chair man had properly sa id; " bring your witnesses, and state your grievances, and Parliament will attend to yew- •statertients, and remedy the evils of which you complain." He (jr. •Punhar) was an example of a shipowper, and a prosperous owner, but the very property he had acquired by his industry and hard work was now melting away like ;snow before the sun. (Laughter and cheers.) The nan who called himself a shipowner, and moved such an amendment as that which had been pro posed. by Mr. Lindsay, was the worst enemy the shipowner could have. (Cheers.) Mr. BEAZLEY, of Liverpool, said it was not his intention to trespass, on them with a lot of fandies ; but he - would endeavour to point out a few facts, which -were better than all the arguments in the world. Last year there were imported into Liver pool frc an America 2,000,000 bales of cotton, em ploying • shipping to the extent of 7,000 tons. And he should like to point out a new feature which had developed itself in the last twelve months, owing to t'ae ext:erasion of the electric telegraph from New York to ) New Orleans, and from Liverpool to Queens town. in Ireland. It had become the custom to send out from Liverpool orders for cargoes of cotton. These orders emanated entirely from England. Well, he was asked whether he would take an in terest; in an order for 5,000 bales of cotton from New Orley ais. At first blush he thought he might em ploy one of his own shipsin the business; but he was met at once with the remark, "We cannot employ a British ship, for the success of the specu-, latics a requires that we must employ American shipping, and the ship, must call at Queenstown and take tic cargo to Havre or to Liverpool, according to pric es at tae time." (Hear, hear.) But was it right. abet, with orders from England to New Or leans, we should be prohibited from employing our own shipping ? No sophistry, no perversion of the English language, would ever induce him to believe that this was free trade or fair play either. (Cheers.) Our legislative enactments were giving such undue adv antage to foreigners as to throw our shipping out of employment. He would assume a ship of 1,200 tons, a British ship, at Liverpool, bound to Australia. She would take about 400 passengers. He would as sume that on the voyage she met with an accident and put into that beautiful port of Pernambuco, where she was sure to be condemned, for it was utterly impossible to repair the British ship. They had not a spar in the place that would make a mainyard for a ship of 500 tons. Well, the consul would take up a lot of small craft, and the passengers would be forwarded on at enormous expense, which would fall on the British shipowner. But if they took an American ship, Brother Jonathan would, go off in a schooner from Pernambuco and never be heard of again. (Laughter.) Then as to Lord Campbell's Act. We had seen the evils of that act portrayed during the last fortnight in connection with the loss of the Royal Charter, and the strong endeavours made to fasten upon the memory of the unfortunate Captain Taylor the stigma of drunkenness. (Hear, hear.) What was the object of that? To throw on the owners of the ship a loss of about £45,000; and this would have been accomplished could any two scoundrels amongst the passengers have been found who would have sworn to a lie. (Hear.) What was the remedy for these grievances ? The constituen cies did not return proper members to the House of Commons. (Loud cheering.) And at the next elec tion they must exact from every candidate a pledge that he would go all for reciprocity in shipping, whether the Government was my Lord Derby's or my Lord Palmerston's. (Hear, hear.) Lot reciprocity in any case be the cry. (Cheers.) A great deal had been said about the unnatural increase given to the American trade, and he should be able to show the undue and unfair influence which had been at work to produce it. Although they might not believe it —although our own magnificent colonies of Aus tralia and Canada were prohibited from sending members to Parliament—yet the United States had a representative in the British House of Commons. Ile held in his hand written and unmistakeable proof of his assertion. (Name, name.) He held in his hand e7etracts from a letter from a gentleman who represented in the house of Commons the ship ping interests of a British port. If they had any doubt about the state of our trade, that letter would enlighten them. It was a letter from a gentleman who represented a large shipping port, and was a merchant and broker of tbis city. ft was written during the great emigration trade to Australia, and was gairessed to an American correspondent ; and he dare say a greet maay sh ewws present would now understand why their offers of ships at the time had been refused. The letter ran thus : " Make your mind easy ; my position is such that I am quite prepared to g u a r a n t ee t o Any o f your American friends to obtain for them from the Government the highest rate given on the day of tender, and place their ships where others could, not at any rate." " I have the means of knowing and doing what others have not." The writer of the letter was the hon. member for Sunderland. (1-kisses and uproar.) Another letter ran thus The charter of the has given great satis faction to the leading American house of this city,. to the American Minister, and to the leading Libe rals in the House of Commons. Other four ships are wanted, and if you direct attention to it, and find us suitable vessels, we will place the whole of them. We will make the Americans do well on this round, and having it in our power—l saw that tender, and I will give him a handsome sum if he sees any of the tenders." that the hand had with ere d upon t h e paper t h an that it should have written anything so un-English as that. (Cheers.) Was he not right, then, in sap ing that America was represented in the House of Commons ? Would it be believed the. House of Commons was composed of 653—he would leave out one ? (Laughter.) The House of Commons was composed of 653 gentlemen, loyal subjects of the Queen (hear, hear), and he was sure they would not rejoice to see the stripes and stars triumph over lour glorious flag, and England anything but what she was—the mistress of the seas. (Cheers.) • Mr. CLINT (Liverpool) supported-the munition. Mr. POTTS (of Sunderland) supported the resolution, and said that ho had been connected with the trade of that port for the past 20 years, and that he never knew it to be in such a depressed condition as at present. He came before them as a shipowner and shipbuilder, and he could tell them - that the material he used paid 10, 20, nay, even 30 per cent. H e as k e d them for equal rights with Liverpool. Why should hie timber be taxed and the raw material of Liverpool go free ? And why should a bonus be given to the foreigner to in jure him in his trade? There was in Mr. Young's yard a specimen —the Augusta Wattenbach. It was built at Breinen, but came over to this country, but paid no duty, while he knew that if he had built that ship, for the 1,300 loads of timber of which it was composed, he would have had to stump down £540 duty. (Hear, hear). The anchors and chains weighed 40 tons; they came in her duty free, but if they had been imported as anchors and chains the duty would have amounted to £lOO, it being fixed at £2 Ios. per ton. Was he placed, then, as a shipbuilder and shipowner, on the same footing as the cotton man of Manchester, as the Spitalfields silk merchant, or as the Brad ford woool merchant ? Manchester was favoured with a 10 per cent, duty, Spitalfields had a 20 per cent, duty to protect them, and they were net able to protect them, and they were not able to compete, yet the shipowner had to compete in the open mar k•t of the world. Was it honest, or was it just ? (No, :so.) All he asked was fair play and equal rights with all. Give us equal rights, and then we can compete fairly. He would now give them a' single instance of the timber duties and their operations. In his port lately they had a good many south-east winds, and these had caused a number of ships to be blown on shore. There were five or six wrecks at one time, and amongst them was a foreigner. The captain of that ship thought it would be a good job if he could get his ship sold as a wreck. He advertised it, and a party soon bought it, but found it a difficulty in moving it off. In the meantime another breeze sprung up, giving her another bit of a touch, sending her further on shore, and nearly knocking her to pieces. Now, if they had got the ship off they would not have had to pay a penny duty, but when they began to break her' up down came the custom-house officers and made the unfortunate purchaser pay for all. (Hear, hear.) That was the operation of the tim her duty, and they could easily see how it acted to their disadvantage. Now, our Legislature had opened up the trade to the world, and it was there fore a simple act of justice to open up the world's trade to the British shipowner. The difficulty was, they said, to find a remedy. It sometimes happened that when there was a great weight on a crane a counterbalance was of great ser vice. They could not get back protection, but the Government could place them on the same footing as the foreigner; and if they could not get recipro city, could not the Government give them MAU thing of a counterbalance. (A laugh, and hear, hear.) Perhaps the hon. member fox Sunderland would ask for it. (Laughter and order.) He hated the term protection, of course—laughter)—it stank in the nostrils ; b u t th e y might give a counter balance ; it was the same thing after all. (Cheers and laughter.) The CIIAIRMAN then' put the resolution and the amendment to a show of hands.- For the latter about a dozen only were raised, and the original resolution was carried with but one dissentient. JOHN SMITH, chairman of the Livezpo,ol ..plipt S ifue j o i Tebl i it s tl : e( L eai e tt:o :3 :irnilt r nhh s p.i ' acinont, A ‘4artot s aiea s: itnel e heai i ae a loni ti aec o ,t_f t iti, t i ir n hy o e, v tcl e u d 9iivy ? rr e ne na t e e z ; i t t , al.n°tlllllo - styic,e,tet system g o r f e at maritime private commerce interests ypi alike llu g P o in agdi policy, on m l b ti a ec e nyr interest forthwiths a t h na a c t cj t o l na. revising the sebmitted to full and fair examination by competent authoity." IlV q r si T 4 x 1 . 011 ,M.P. for Tyncrz.uth, seconded - the resolution, and said that any one possessing the smallest knowledge of British shipping must admit , the necessity for a full inquiry into its present con dition. The shipping of Tynemouth was so horribly embarrassed that unless some change took place one-half of the people would be ruined. His friend Mr. Lindsay told him some two years ago that re ciprocity was the worst sort of protection. That might be so, but he really could not see what he meant. Take a French ship and an English ship to Calcutta: The merchant for his own benefit was compelled to give a preference to the French ship. (Cheers.) Mr. Lindsay thought the removal of light dues and passing tolls would be a remedy. But what did they amount to ? The passing tolls on a ship going to India were only a few shillings, and the light dues did not exceed £lO or £l2 on a vessel of 500 tons. It was clear that if we did away with the passing tolls and the light dues the foreigner would derive the same advantage from the change as ourselves, and he did not see how the British shipowner would be benefited by that. As a member of the House of Commons he would do all he could to promote an inquiry into the matter, and if he should have the honour of serving on the committee be should endeavour, as a practical man, to go into the most searching in vestigation. (Cheers.) Mr. DUNBAR supported the resolution. He quite agreed in what had been said respecting the passing tolls and light dues, and was of opinion that if they put £5O into his pocket and £5O into the pocket of the foreigner they made no difference in his favour. He would just call the attention of the meeting to the tonnage of British and foreign vessels which entered with cargoes at ports in the United King dom in the years 1848 and 1858:—In 1848 the British tonnage was 4,020,415 tons; foreign ton nage, 1,559,046 tons. In 1858 the British tonnage was 5,234,424 tons; foreign tonnage, 3,583,113 tons. These were startling facts, and required no comment. He complained that our rulers dial not love their country, but loved foreigners better. A man had only to be a foreigner t o h ave grea t er at tention paid to him than to the . people of this coun try. Gentlemen, exclaimed Mr. Dunbar, I wish we had the good old times of Oliver Cromwell back again—(hear, hear)—then we should know how to deal with foreigners. The resolution was put and carried. Mr. WIGRAM then moved—" That it be therefore earnestly recommended to all persons interested in British shipping at the various seaports of the United Kingdom to prepare petitions for presenta tion to Parliament at the opening of the approach ing session, which, while abstaining from all expres sion of opinion on disputed points, should pray for a comprehensive, searching, and impartial inquiry into the actual condition of British navigation, and the causes that have led to its present disastrous depression, as well as into the laws and regulations under which it is now conducted. And that they be further recommended by public meetings, and by communication with the members representing in the House of Commons their respective localities, to invite and enforce a consideration of a question so clearly involving the safety as well as the prospe rity of the nation." The prosperity of the mercan tile shipping did, indeed, involve the general inte rests of thenation. An appeal had been made to them by the Lords of the Admiralty for a naval reserve. That, no doubt, was a valuable thing ; but, if it were followed up, it would hamper our foreign trade. One of the.provisions with regard to the naval reserve was that a man must not be absent on a foreign voyage more than six months without leave. How would that affect our Indian trade and all our long voyages ? That was a point which would of course come under the discussion of the committee, There were several ether points, which, having been dis cussed to-day, he would not trouble them with ; but he was surd that by an unanimous vote they would succeed in their work. (Applause.) Mr. CAVE, M.F. far Shorehana, seconded the reso lutien, 1V filch was supported by Mr. CARROL, of Cork, and carried unanimously. Mr. MARSHALL, in proposing the next resolution, said that, in reply to their memorial to the Queen last year, they wait told that th e y were comp l a i n i ng without- a cause, that what they complained of was a mere passing cloud, and if they were patient they would soon -find a better state of things. Now, they had waited twelve months, and instead of improve ment he could with truth as a shipowner say that at no period of time had they ever felt their posi tion so painfully , distressing as within that period. So far from the cloud passing away it was increas ing, and was calculated to overwhelm the whole of them. Unless they got relief there was nothing but ruin befor e th em . Th e a b ol i tion of passing tolls ' and light dues would give no relief to the general shipowners of the kingdom. They wanted sub stantial relief, not a more cheeseparing enactment. (Hear,_ hear.) O n ly yester d ay his correspondence from Caloutta informed him that the rate of freights in British ships for sugar, saltpetre, an d o th er goods was lo s . p er t on to reat Britain ; going up for bulky goods to 35s and 40s per ton. It ask° represented' that French ships had refused ":" of. and demanded 100 f. per ten. So that. the.; wanted 100 f, for what, we did for. IW . This was painfully humiliating:, to the ruritish shipowner. lie could farther state as a fact that not only Isis own shl-i,g, but thos() of many of his friends, had c:::,tne home iii ballast from New South Wales, 'senile, at the same time, French ships were loading cargoes to bring from Sydney to the port of London. These facts ought to convince the legisla ture that only one result could follow, and he had great pleasure in proposing :—" That the following petition be adopted by this meeting, and that, when signed, it be placed in the hands of Lord John Rus sell, one of the members of the City of London, for presentation to the House of Commons ' • and' that a deputation be appoi n t e d t o wa i t upon Lord Palme r sten previous to the meeting of Parliament, earnestly to solicit her Majesty's Government favourably to consider its prayer ; and that the committee of the General Shipowners' Society be requested to make all necessary arrangements for the said purposes." [The petition referred to is an echo of the resolu tions.] Mr. D. SEYMOUR, M.P., said—The time has come when the shipping interest shall have a hear ing. It is very much to be deplored what I have seen in a portion of the public press, viz„ a spirit of discontent and ridicule, which has been indulged in to a great extent, to the shpping interest. If there is any man w h o h as a ground of complaint, be he the mechanic, or be he what he may, I think there should be a court of appeal, if even it was at the loot of the Throne itself. When the cry of distress is raised by any class, whether it is the cry of suf fering from one or of depression from the other, it must be admitted that that is not the time to treat, the sufferers with ridicule and contempt. That out break might be one day the "Wail of Montrose," and the next the " Howl of Sunderland ;" bet whether it is the wail or the howl, the shipping in terest were trying out loudly for redress, and fair and full inquiry, and I believe that, if you are true to yourselves, the hour has come when you shall have that redress. I stand here as a free trader— as a radical free trader ; but, as warm as I am in that cause, I have no less warmth in the cause of the shipping interest. (Cheers.) I say that those gentlemen who talk about free trade must know that there is no free trade without reciprocity, and sinless you have the return of the trade with foreign countries it is a mockery to say that we have free trade with that country. I say that the shipping interest is not the free trade which the Manchester manufacturer enjoys. There is too much of a cry a b out Manchester. I have a great respect for Messrs. Cobden and 13right, but I am not going to be Cob denised or Brightenised to the detriment of the shipping iriterest. lam now determined to speak my mind, if even I offend those gentlemen. The manufacturer may employ what ships he likes to send his goods out, but the freo trade of the ship owner was a blind delusion and an absolute mockery. Any person acquainted with the circumstances con nected with the repeal of the Navigation Laws must see that this repeal put an end to the policy of past ages. It is to be regretted that better guarantees were not obtained before the shipping interest of the kingdom was substantially plunged into that trial of prohibition. No doubt there were circumstances lof a peculiar character connected with repeal. The treaties of Huskissen were expiring, and we were giving free-trade to our colonies. There were, no doubt, many circumstances that excused our states men for the repeal of the Navigation Laws. But what was our position with reference to America ? It was this. Mr. Bancroft, the Ametiean Minister in this country, declared, " It' you do little, we will do little ; if you do much, we will do much ; if you do all, we will do all." (Rear, hear.) But has America done so ? She has nothing of the kind, • but has stuck more closely to; and surrounded her self within, the walls and fences of her own protec tive laws. (Cheers.) I was astonished to see a paper the ether day signed by Mr. Emerson Ten , nant, pus-porting to be an answer to the shipowners' Manifesto. It was a ridicule and a slur cast upon the value of the American coasting trade, (Hear, hear.) Nothing could be more absurd than for a consul to speak of the nature of a, 'Mich by referri ng to San Francise harbour il. - istead of t h e trade, of thge vsrions,,, ports from 5'... - n Francis co on the Pacific to New York - on 'Sae Atlantic, which are employing t' - oousanass of ships in the coasting trade. Now, the saw eanduct which America adopts with regard to her coasting trade with this country, she is carrying out with regard to our fellow -countryme n in the Canadas. You all know that Canada wanted to open her exclusive control over the St. Lawrence, and over the great highway of her lakes and canals. But why? Why, upon the faith that the inland navigation of the United States would be open to the Canadians. Five years pass, and Canada has got—what?' Her own commerce is every year more and more ex- ducted, and the United States is losing her fist more tightly in the face of the treaty which has been entered into. (Hear.) I say, as a free-trader, th at this course of p rocee di ng i s not fair. I say th at it is not fair for America to send her vessels to our Indian seas or any of her Majesty's posses sions. It is not fair that America should have the ad.vantage of contending in the open sea with us, w; Ten she, in violation of her pledged faith, is closing more tightly around her the shelter of her protective system. (Hear, hear,) Ido not say, bring back the Navigation Laws; I do not say, en force reciprocity; but I say to the Government, that the time has come when you ought to give the shipping interest the power of meeting and point ing out their condition. (Hear.) Why should Manchester have a 5 per cent. ad valorem duty im posed on the cotton manufacture, if they do not pay a single farthing on the untaxed ship that comes in to compete with the British shipowner? I hope some persons will call the attention of the Legis lature to the condition of the tariff, in order that the inequalities in these and other respects may be rectified. (Cheers.) lam not going to talk about passing tolls, local dues, and other things of that kind. I believe, if they were all removed, the cause of the depression of the shipping interest would not be removed with them. (Hear, hear.) The only thing that can cure and heal the grievous suff% - dr _ ings of the shipping interest is a careful adieial inquiry, and then an honest and generor ..s effort by a paternal Legislature to relieve tk-e greatest in terest in the kingdom. (Appla ,- , se.) The CHAIRMAN having rr petition,resolution ad the and - Mr. DUNBAR wish - to ask'if it is necessary to insert the 23 !.:1ne of Lord John Russell P(Laugh ter.) I wl ll not trust him. I would rather have it presented by our Chairman. 71.40 CHAIRMAN —Me presentation of the peti tion is no great matter of trust. Mr. DUNBAR—He will sell us, sir. (Laughter.) A VOICE —Not the first time. The resolution and memorial were agreed to. On the motion of Lord Valletort, M.P., seconded by Sir James Duke, M.P., a vote of thay.'Ks was passed by acclamation to the chairman and the proceedings terminated. FR - ' OM THE GAZETTE - 0 - i LAST NIGHT WIF:TEHALL, Nov. 28. The Queen he.s been pleased to direct letters patent to be passed under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom of Great T... ) ritain and Ireland, granting unto Walter Aston Blount, Esquire, Chester Herald, the office of Norroy, King of Arms, and Principal Herald of the north parts of Eng land, vacant by the promotion of Robert Laurie, Esquire, to the office of Clarenceux, King of Arms. DOWNING-STREET, Nov. 29. The Queen has been pleased to appoint Dr David Shier to be Medical Inspector of Estates' :Hospitals . in the Colony of British Guiana. WAR OFFICE, PALL-MALL, Nov. 29. 7th Regiment of Light Dragoons—Captain John Gore, from the 10th Light Dragoons, to be Captain, vice Bed der, who exchanges. 10th Light Dragoons—Captain. Richard Newsham Pedder, from the 7th Light Dragoons, to be Captain, vice Gore, who exchanges. Military Train - -Lieutenant John Taylor to be Adjutant, vice Lieutenant Sweeny, promoted Second Captain Coast Brigade of Artillery ; Ensign Alexander M'Donald to be , Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Sweeny, promoted Second Captain Coast Brigade of Artillery. Coldstream Guards—Lieutenant and Captain and Brevet- Major Gerald Littlehales Goodlake to be Captain and Lientenent-Colonel, by purchase, vice Newdigate, who retires ; Ensign and Lieutenant the Hon. Edward Henry Legge to be Lieutenant and Captain, by purchase, vice Goodlake; Cornet Charles Walter Lee-Mainwaring, from the sth Dragoon Guards, to be Ensign and Lieu ' tenant, by purchase, vice the Hon. Edward Henry Legge. sth Regiment of Foot—Lieutenant Frank Astley Cubitt to bo Captain, by purchase, vice Grahame, who retires ; Lieutenant Arthur Edward Flood, from the 61st Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Sewell, who exchanges. 6th Foot—Ensi gn P a t r i c k Alb ert Howley to be Lieutenant by purchase, vice Lawrell, promoted. Bth Foot—Surgeon Francis Ch ar l es A nnes l ey, having completed 20 years' full pay service, to be Surgeon- Major, under the Royal Warrant of let October, 1858. 10th Foot—Lieutenant Henry Rudkin Vigors to be Cap tain, by purchase, vice the Hon. Alfred Bury, who re tires ; Ensign Richard Johnson to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Vigors. 11th Foot—Ensign Frederick Dudley Walker to be super seded, being absent without leave. 12th Foot—Lieutenant John William Lloyd, from the 2d West India Regiment, to be Lieutenant, vice Reade, who exchanges; Surgeon Dudley Clifton Wodsworth, from theaff Staff; to be Surgeo n , v i ce G eorge, appointed to the St. 17th Foot—The second Christian name of Ensign Wood is " Gatherne," and not " Gaythorne," as stated in the Ga zette of the 2Sth ult. 18th Foot—Lieutenant Hugh Shaw to be Adjutant, vino Kemp, promoted. 19th Foot—Lieutenant Charles James Forbes Smith to be Instructor of Musketry, vice Captain William J. Foster, ordered to join his company-on promotion. 25th Foot—Brevet-Ma ib'. Samuel Hill Lawrence, f rom th e 3 ha d 2nge s Foot, to be Captain, vice Cunyngim mo , w h o ex c, 28th lsFook--r,nsign Thomas Ho rn ibl ow t o b e Li eutenant, ~,w,. ~ purchase, vice McCormack killed in action. oot—Lieut. Ralph Leeson to be Captain, by purchase, vice Temple, who retires. 32d Foot—Capt. Edward Augustus Thurlow Cunynghamo from the 25th Foot, to be Captain, vice Brevet-Major Lawrence, who exchanges. 35th Foot—Surgeon James Walker Chambers, M.D., hav ing completed 20 years' full pay service, to be Surgeon- Major, under the Royal Warrant of Oct. 1, 1858. 46th Foot—Surgeon Edward Touch, M.D., from tho Staff; to be Surgeon, vice Webb, appointed to the Staff; Assist ant-Surgeon Wm. Venour, from the Staff, to be Assistant- Surgeon, vice Woolhouse, appointed to the Staff. 49th Foot—Edgar Lonsdale, Gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Fordyce, promoted. 58th Foot — Assistant-Surgeon Wm. Barry, from the Staff, to bo Assistant-Surgeon, vise Snell, appointed t o th e Staff. 60th Foot—Lieutenant David G. N. Watts-Russell to be Captain, by purchase, vice Wm. Douglas Phelips, who retires. 61st Foot—Lieutenant Samuel F. Sewell, from the sth Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Flood,Avho exchanges. 63d Foot—Lieutenant Richard Wm. Barnardiston Crow ther to be Instructor of Musketry. 75th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon Robert Woods, from the Staff, to be Assistant -Surgeon, vice Whylock, appointed to the Staff. 85th Foot—Frederick Willock Garnett, Gent., to be En. sign, by purchase, vice Brebner, appointed to the 7 9 th Foot. 94th Foot—The promotion of the undermentioned officers to the rank of Lieutenant to be antedated, as follows : Lieutenant Charles Butler to the 14th of March, 1859 ; and Lieutenant Wm. Fermor Godfrey to the 13th of April, 1859. 98th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon Samuel Archer, from the Staff; to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice Sparrow, who ex changes. Ist West India Regiment—Lieutenant George Wm. Alex ander Dobie to be Captain, by purchase, vice Tunstall, who retires. 2d West India Regiment—Lieutenant George William Reade, from the 12th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Lloyd, who exchanges. DEPOT BATTALION. Captain Patrick Geraghty, 20th Foot, to be Instructor of Musketry, in succession to Captain Carden, 77th Foot, who has rejoined the depot of his regiment. HOSPITAL STAFF. Surgeon Duncan Donald M'Kay M`Donald, having corn 31etedb20 years' full-pay service, to be Sur geon -M a j or, un ter the R o y a l warrant o f Oct. 1, 1858. Surgeon Robert Villiers George, M.D., from the 12th Foot, to be Surgeon, vice Wodsworth, appointed to the 12th Foot. Surgeon - Vero 'Webb, from the 46th Foot, to bo Surgeon, vice Touch, appointed to the 46th Foot. Assistant-Surgeon Watkin Saudom Whylock, M.D., from the 75th Foot, to be Assistant-Surgeon to the Forces, vice Woods, appointed to the 75th Foot. Assistant-Surgeon Wm. Snell, from the 58th Foot, to be Assistant-Surgeon to the Forces, vice Vonour, appointed to the 46th Foot. Assistant-Surgeon George Evans (Supernumerary in the 9th Light Dragoons) to be Assistant-Surgeon to the Forces vice Barry, appointed to the 58th Foot. Assistant-Surgeon John Sparrow, from the 98th Foot, to bo Assistant-Surgeon to the Forces, vice Archer, who exchanges. Captain 'William BREVET. Jenny Pengelley, retired full-a Royal Marines, to have the honorary rank of Major, und p er y her Majesty's Order in Council of the 13th Nov., 1858. COMMISSIONS SIGNED BY THE QUEEN. Ist Royal Cheshire Militia—Edward Charles Hicks, Gent., to be Quartermaster. 2d Regiment Royal Cheshire Militia—Captain Thomas Fitzgerald to be Quartermaster, vice Barnes, deceased. COMMISSIONS BY LORDS-LIEUTENANT. Artillery Battalion of the Royal Sussex Militia—Donald `Wyatt Frazer, Gent., to be Second Lieutenant, vice Borrer, deceased. lst'Sussex Artillery Volunteer Corps—Lieutenant-Colo nel Joseph E'stridge to be Captain. East York Rifle Volunteers, Ist Company—John Cooke, Gent., to be Lieutenant. 2d Company—Anthony Bannister, Esq., to be Captain ; 'William Thoma s Whi te, Gent., to be Lieutenant; Frederic Fearnley Ayre, Gent., to be Ensign. Ist Herefordshire Rifle Volunteers—The Right Hon. the Earl Cowper to be Captain ; William Robert Baker, Gent., to be Lieutenant; the Hon. Henry Frederick Cow per to be Ensign. South Herts Yeomanry Cavalry—Horace James Smith, Gent., to bo Captain, vice Sir Henry Meta, Bart., re signed. Ist Company of Norfolk Artillery Volunteers—John Stephenson, Esq., M.D., to be Honorary tSurgeon. 6th Company of Cheshire Volunteer Rifles—Richard Brooke, late Lieutenant Ist Life Guards, to be Captain ; John Ireland Blackburne, late Lieutenant Hon. East India Company's Service, to be Lieutenant. 1 BANKRTIPCI F. S afford Samuel Johnson, drap T er, Bu rsiem, SffoANNULLE D. rd. 1 George Corbett, cattle salesman, Shottswell, Warwick. • BANKRUPTS. Samuel Welld on , dealer and chapraan, Manea, Cam bridge, 10th Feb. and 10th Jan., at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. John Ronald Lyon, brewer, Cambridge, Dec. 12, and Jan. 9, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Henry Johnson, builder, Clerkenwell-close, Dec. 8, and Jan. 3, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Abram Cross, ironfounder„Westbr omw i c h, St a ff ord, Dec. 9, t L . nd , Ja t n. 12, at ele ven , a t th e Bi rm i ngham District Couit. • William Duoard, coach and harnes s f urn it ure maker, Birmingham, Dee. 17, ands Jan. 13, at eleven, at the) Bir mingham District Court. John Cartwright, corn merchant, Dunston,coln, Dec. 13, and Jan. 5, at half-past eleven, at the Birmingham District Court. • James Lomax, tailor, Doansgate, Bolton, Lancaslure, Dec. 14, and Jan. 17, at twc lye, at tho Manchester. District Court. COUNTRY MARKB'TS• At the market to per qr. lower. :'r d i a c y es t qo h f er b o ar w le a y s BRISTOL—Nov. 29.7: ACP en d wheat sold OOP _ dull at is per r decline from last weelc. 6d rem ' unaltered. a a nd fa o i : ho e r tgrenclaiii LIVERPOOL—Nov. 2 9 • The arrivals from Ireland and coastwise during , 0 qrs of barley, 6,289 the Pa st week have been fair of oatmeal, but otherwise light. /:_rf a t _ opiteaerarocoeunntat we have 1,027 sacks ands ,41 '1 1 foreignTh lim 19 ports we have received 10,059 quarters of 10%7_7 received 1,500 qrs peas, and 1,507 barrels cl h e at, The _ ~ e xports in the same time comprise 2,167 °' w sac ks 23 , 2,0.13 qrs of Indian corn, 196 1 1 f oat s o oatmeal, wery and 945 barrels of flour. We have had open and sho ' t v our N, v , o e ather. The trade has been inactive during the e ' r b s a o n f e b i e s a: f s, fl 2 o O ur ,O . ss f r s oni of c l a n ill a o a t u t r; . liad a small attendance of miner and dealers at ° market this morning, but little disposition to was ev!nced, and sales of wheat and flour could saa,r ° , 6 4, o y of effected,4d per although holders, offered to submit to a a°'"` of this day week. Oats •and oatmeal easier to buy, but'rites slo vr l o a f n b d v 6d po• .1 3 1 d sqck on th sale at late rates, Pew uualte red• Barley, beans, and P _ wa s very ..siTiess transacted in Indian corn SHEFFIELD—NoV. 29. fh Owing to the winter fair . being held to-day, -,- - t r ors very little business done in the corn market. Pri ce " in the buyers' favour. 17 0 e a R NBNGe e reeia d wlnvnsd w rwied h nh ei t t e , per load of 3 imperial bushels...l.lB77:o°d to Ai White °dOd is 2 1 1° 9 75 : ocl vwea » 1) 1 9 ..17 , 6a to „„, o d Peas, per bgarrle;, , 'per qr Pf ... 16 s 6d tO P i ; od " • . 4-4 dt°54 :45 ' Ott ........... • ~„ flat° -- 0 . ;Jou VIIIM ......... 388 ,1t0 , „, Malting b ditto, 1 7,,,,,3311N nBsou ,,, - et Oa A t l s illers' prieea for flour—ls 6d, is Bd, and is 1°(1 F 141 b. LEEDS—Nov, 29. , s tate to' The attendance at our corn e xchange was raT e me ets 6 day, We are t o l era bl y supp li e d w ith wheat, wh ic ih a e 0 11 dull sale, and th e f ew sa l es e ff ec t e d were at ls dec7 ts £ O lll last Tuesday's prices. Barley sold readily, and as dear. Beans and oats as before. Arrivals this week : Wheat 5,13 7 73 qrs. Barley Oats Rapeseed - Beans 134 Linseed lO Flour .. _- asci"" Averages for the weep : 13 Wheat 5,085 qrs., at ........ 47s X , i Peas •• • 20 „ ........ 40 , ci , Beans Barley.. ll3 „ ........ 448 2,014 2 , ........ 383 i Oa y t ff .... s 330 . . .. 248 4 n Re v A•• .. .2 ...... NORWICH CATTLE—Nov. 'l. O . ... c lam Our market to 'day exhibit e d a good show Inch '" A , flit comprising Scots, shorth orn s, Devons, and 45 business done, but a poor attendance. Scots, 5s to 5s 6d ; shorthorns, 4s 6d to 59 °`-` fight to 4s 6d ; Devon s , 4 s Gd t o 5 s 6d (estimated welc fat). h pit Fat beasts scarce, at 7s Gd to Ss sa per stone. The Sheep—There were few sheep in the Pe ns 'h p -- sheep in demand at 39s to 40s h ad• F at S-ee per e • orb Ss 6d per stone. Od ig t e o - B A s 6gdoopdersuSptoPnit:: Store pigs 25s to 40s, f 7s P COURSE OF EXCIIANGE.—YEs ° II I. I Arnsterdam to Ditto Rotterdam, ..... 11 15i '25 1 Antwerp Brussels — 25 221 13 . Hamlnregh 35 Paris Ditto Ma•;seilles — 25 321 11 1 7 , F , ankfort on Maine — 1174 12 ..0 Vienna Trieste Petersburgh — 34 50 Madrid Cadl7 _ 494 Leghorn — 30 21 2 6 n Genoa. — 25 37} 4 `4 .• o • • Naples ••• Palermo l2ll 12 2 i oo Messina — 122 ga Lisbon Oporto Rio Janeiro — • • ,•/ New York — • • .£3 '' 0 Foreign Gold in lan (St an d ar d)....per 05 . 0 0 1 , Mexican. Dollars. Silver in Bars (standard) ~....2: . ...._ _ 1 ,, , LiT LI ST . FOREIGN _MAIL PA C.IC-1 ,, " -la In the followinztable E signifies that letters ar e i f by evening mails from London, and M by 7T, ~. v• ..... .11 , UM .L., biguntea Lucas, ~-.- r oilllC - ,s by evening maiDs from London, and KbY i n° 0 ,- , SO ,„ f t ox dil e 7... DESTINAVIONS. Despatch . - ach. .......--- of Mails. 12f.s.!__---- ;10 „, - } Australia and 31 . 1turitius, via fhamlN DO! Southampton Dec. 12, 31 SOU - Ditto, via Mar sullies Bahamas and Ha vana via New _ no ol. • „rov.'. York Dec. 23, ElLifor a - 0 1.. - Canada, •&c. (by Ca:iadn. pckt ),Nov. 29, El Lif er r - pee. / Cape of Good Lit ,pe, Ascen sion, and St. He lena ° -5 ....n a V .' 1$ China, Penang and Singa pore, via Southampton Ditto, via Mar 4eilles . D Dec.• 31 ........ ..• V 1 0 31 So Honduras pea. Gibraltar, via Sor , thamp . to . n . .. .)Dec. ec. 10, Honduras and 13 41 . wfields India (Calcutta) and Ceylon, WV' De 4 via Southampton 'Dec. .... jil Ditto, via Marseilles - IP' 4 India (Bombay), via South- 2,1 southazal N Deo. South ampton Dec. 12, , . 5 Ditto, via Marseilles De& 1 Lisbon, Brazils,lCuenos A 1 yres, „ Sou th Pee. and P. Islands Dec. 0, .!: ' - '„„t an3P• g Lisbon, Vigo, and Oporto Nov.-, 2 ' '— 11 DO . ' ~. 4 Malta, Egypt, and Adea, via t harue (7.-- .... Southampton Dec. 3, M Sou ....... _ Ditto, via Marseilles g Scot a . Mexico and Havana Nov.-, Newfoundland Dec. 3, E G 4l". , . el'of• 5° United States and British N -,-, riferP° ° " America (by Aritish packet) Dec. 3, -,,, „ - ,, - „thalol 2 ' ,„ A , 1 0 3, 31 South.... .. Ditto (by U. S. packet) Nov. 29,E "-- West Coast of Africa, Ma deira, and T , meriffe pto i West India, California, Vene zuela, Chili, Peru, Grey- -„, q utha° ll - .., town, New Granada, sic Dec. 2, -.... -°- nt. _.._#/n0 ..1 . Dec. 23 E Liverpool•• v•-, trae ntf a . . de, [ADVERTISEMENT.]—HOIIOWay'S PM*, 0. a' Rheumatism, Neuralgia, Face and Ear-au'n e ' ra ture ; c leo smoky fogs and the sudden changes of terali g s the nin. a st this season constantly producins-Qdiseases 01 0 , are psi and nerves; which, though not'enalange ring , +ortilr eel pill* acutely painful. The invalid racked by sucu o dic w i l io turn with confidence to Holloway's ants-s Pa- P ei a ail p p 0 . , which throw out from the system the - hat otin; cause these complaints, at the same time tand ootio all morbid matters and regulate every orgau r ye. '9O They cleanse every fibre whether muscle or ne e l' Tit it , e c omn hi pt o hl ni oey c pm c ae a rn s ts e t, s Holloway's Ointment should , mute e as e t liOt i whilst affected t a taking t a h -d e a P Y ill of 310 1/- [AD VERTISEITENT.I— extract a few ou t cured svi Ara b rd expressions of gratitude from invalids cu r io rd medicine by Du Barry's delicious Re vale ble 0 %11 i ° Food :—Cure No. 71, The Right Honourt.land Stuart de Decies, of many years dYsPePaleiodet. eon' horrors. Cure No. 49,832, "Fifty ye ars' couP"' agony, from dyspepsia, nervousness, asthma, stipation, flatulency, spasms, sickness at the s;;I-eoeliii:,, sa,ndwihn.,..fi_na vmnitting, have been removed ' by Du 13 1-1 11 ; Slott r Food.—Maria Joly, W or th am Li n g, near . 4 00, Cure No. 47,121, Mi ss Eli za b e th J a cobs, of •°_, er volls' c ies• age, Waltham Cross, Heft a cure of extreme fa indigestion, gatherings, lo s, w spirits, and ul . gteaot e j Cure No. 48,314, Mi ss Eli za b e th Yeoman, ,iltir w arei a Liverpool, a cure o f t en y ears ' dyspepsia, an Dr. rors of nervo us i rr it a bilit y. Cure 18,2 16, wits i iitt tire of con s tip a ti on , dyspepsia, and nervous ana ieb c o Cure No. 34,210, Dr. Shorland, of dregs t ic fitS• , T oo' Cure No. 36,212, Captain Allen, of 00. 1 uP ° 'd tot air ter , No. 42,116, Major Edie, of liver complaint aa p r . 1 4 1118, stratioi of strength. Cure No. 36,418, lt,e v ' re No • f:l 4 °' of cramps, spasms, and daily vomitings. 14 61 ' Dr. Harvey, of diarrhoea and debility' Cure w iiic• 39,628, Dr. Wurtzer of consumption. 0f patiTiib-, 22,880, William Hunt, Esq., barrister , Os.; 0 0P In tins, at ls. 6d. ; lib., 3s. ; 21b., ss. 265. The 101 b. and 121 b. tins carriage free, ' onL e :t y 64 9 d. -51 b-, ipt sfP do . office order. Du. Barry and Co., 77, Reg_ „ i nt - s iv; Ab„b'iled' Fortnum, Mason, and Co., 182, P10,?'7,„4 . 15 0 z: 4 ., ! : Gracechurch-street ; 4, Cheapside ; Oisw'runi": street; 330 and 451, Strand ; 49 and .7 1 Co' street ; 85, Tottenh am - cour t-road. a!l 010 1 Bewley and Draper ; at Edinburg , J l4 `7„ r Srifotle at Liverpool, Nixon and Thew; at )f 105 at '- Scott; at York, Raimos, Blanchard, and am ,ton, Randall and Son. BIRTHS. cottor • BUTCHER.—On the 27th inst., at Holly ge age Ptl ° Pork Heath, the wife f Louis Butcher, son. 0 ~;f0 0 f C. I I ~ t :r if ca r O n , n E th sci e ., 2 ( 6 ,f th a idnasutg.,hatetrL. ittleco t e , 01 trot, ~0- f 0 SANDEMAN. —On the 28th inst at 24, M° ll `lso ° Fussell-square, the wife of T. F. Sande tnant e$ Itb son. lack b Noon.--On the 27th inst., at 15, Lea-P ar'it IL 13 ,,te r ' the wife of the R e v. James R. Wood, of a ilb" , MARRIAGES. „qoule,e,7l:o. FENNING—GiEns.—On the 22d inst. at .a-o - *flay" - ham-place, Mr. Christopher r en ning,.... d 1 1 0 8 ha Gibk* Tstircehebt,ortnueE_sltizraeobte,thit,egoennlyt.dstaruege•th.ter of .a. 1 .• Wei l l TA. toef l .r T s — oti e j : ara l m i d P eos l e lE sA L L . —On the 21th inst., at th e P lu t il : iiiilit tl er Rugby, - Warwickshire, the Rev. Walter TaTl et datir„ gyllshire. ii:cheribthasldhiCretlitpobejll9,llEsEql.i,zoili lealuceersiis P' ROINN.--n wife 29' • B - DEATHS. ~ AaelPllll Chalotto al Inst., at 2, James i of Mr. Harry Brown, age d ''' Wat e ff CoLEs.-0 Bar n the 27th inst., at his residence, _„.,;,,, esi William Coles, Esq., late of the 13crkshire Xl,'" of P o de, rospect House, Reading. DUN' - N.--O n the 23d inst ,at his residence, South. P 9 Nottingham, Mr. Jonathan Dunn, agod 88 ' W' 0 0 HAW ' KINS.—On the 26th inst , Arthur John, s pat O E 3 g., of Hew Farm, second son of Wra. IIL L " . "" 1' ' , f Martinstown, Do'rset' - , aged 20. gta tioa e ' f HAY ' • LS.—On the 26th inst , Mr. W. Hayes, 36,1 a College-green, Dublin, : aged 55. -street, ..- •deric-i z, the THA ' ' CIkERAY.-011 the 28th inst., at her Vs' ~,, , Priory, Lewisham, Kent, Miss Frances Thackeral. fort , 5t 443 to TO • NEND.—On the 27th inst , at Hanger-hula , 11 00 hill, John Townend, Est., : f or many P ers 3 111 of Middlesex aged 71- _ LONDON : Printed and Published by of No. 112, Strand, Printer, a t The Sun 0X t ho Middlesex, ce, cow' • _l'4l:and, in the Precinct of the Savoy, in iddlesex, Wednesday, Novemb er 30, 1.059. 4;,1