The Sun. — London, England, 1807-08-14 00:00:00

A • • gre'f miitake in that . patt p f ViA,4o.letrt — Atxt . in 'which he id thattoieriitntßß-thad-i\4*'tbetresent sittla tinii • :f the Country, drawirotc,of it 4 very large 4i. . 1i,:,.6. Forct, ;}lid;:itt-7 Ifed'Afiereof, had''Orisonecl, I rebr d. by- two'Aas - Of-Pt4rliaibent. • He ai)ow)ed -thht - a Coniiiierable :btidy (:, - I: l tsrOt;ii - S' had been•ivithdrawd frn6 i Ireland ; • but, at- -eheiqanie time, itberev. i iitias a very strong force _left to that Cciantry4ritertiree' fully statfiCient - .and adequate to ' its . niilii,r)ti de- letice,-wliieb- had, in fats; been reduCedint4+lotrinL l -- co l ticliderabl degree ; .for' by ,vary itig . t tie idisOoktibtt' of trnops, -' uncu t ‘ibere tllkty took ftoni, otie"iparter• . . supplying- their places ' ftliinr"atkother., that was ea '4 'SHY guarded against. - In fact ,• there were nook; &hie ) -56,00 d iiiim in rank and fi le ib''lreland,.• at & 10' ; Right t•lint Oentletnan- yOuld - Lileei- iliattAikktktii?? l _ ,statidii it had li;een tlithig4it iticifsaryi ha. viAdlidtti , 'llienkell'i•eiy laro;e hody'olnieb,:: iit'lw - in'iilttity:- defetiCW de rite Country had-tiiit'been n'tigliegt&rby 1 - those w'lio`forined flier piiseht: 4i.ltnilliseititiii: , 4 46 • tlioughtitneteSiary.thrit 61Tly'to COrieli this - rnittl4o; !cit zirl idetkalintilit I•Se t elifOifilded•that Mitqterti4ifitt: ftir a : MOT:4 , dt been regartNs-s- oftbelproPer defetifeit' . • and S'-ctirity of . the Oita-nil agitinifrall:Ooitilants-- He 'then proCeedellO'itiVei - t to the peiii*-litdb the:: the' I{i • IfofidarlablfkGahtleman •littitltivievt, in: ' • bane iiig"for W• a l id't he Retolation i.vbiHilthd.Yittt-beeti . Nail i)oin the Chair ; and 116 could not, lie•sitid; bill-- be'SoineWhiilisiirpriit:l•, that the'Rlitlit Hon:LGerftle ndri'ill-ntilcf,' on tfiNt night, makefit di-4 ttititidation" orirtintrieli;s'a'gaiitst-CcrtainniedsttreS t-liat.'had"-OSS"-' etrylikt''Htonife, when; in point , of , . propriety,-,Ad-of! fairtiVi:s l lii-'oakFt 16 'iiivi r lipposea Itioses'ent4Oltrea;, dni - hrtjlo9lli6't hPy 4tirOkini t [Oil.' progress throntliLT the-1-1414e: 7 ; It apOiltFea 'to ii int la 116 - 16 be- ssome- 1 iiiit l 4. i tYipAltig; iff.if';' 3 tht, Ilili . t.' linh..Getitleniaii' sht646 tif.*.illicti ilt,;i4iliAits -aS he'tfttdsvifttlinade'us•e' of, by way of appe sing tile . feelings Of the pentiteltif Ireland; and witch he stafert, - 7ttrar - the people•'who could subunit to . such- IllLaSATCS;‘ere, in his opt- ►. Ilion, prearing to make' a surren t ler of . 01eir fiber- ties for e ck 'r, 'he - thought that 4iis ilat ) hin F olaer tan - gunge. to .. he us t ,•••4 at, ,irw...., iirpetit tuoment. Tue tiouse,ttvon• - the ftiliest 'aila fa ir est , Javesti;-• gittioo ertne sttb)ik, and ail er it 'hitit a fiieti AVift4 debated in the Various. stagesibtlhe•tWo Bil i ls' A iitf• ' tCOnilit pc; ,per to pass them itifolit'Ari'l 'wad - M - 0111V: hat'dly F,ol,pose , that iii so ghori: ; diiiiie llitiV ll 6lll, .; be in Auced 'to .alter their - condui; :i'll(f pro`ceka n tiP ' con : a, adia t ion` of N,Vll:lf 'the); 113( 1 . ' F0140651 . Ifdd 13 j admitting a .Resolution Which went•diie :fp' ittsi thu Sii very Bid's.' • 'He thought it' nide d'it!t'v: . rifilli.. l • the Ili lit Hon_.. entretilati'iB._, brit 'exp;.,--taticui in suppose that the House couldrsd idelielttaW4l7 , • 1 , 1 If 4 - ri•, , the ext6Cao(i'variety of his al'gurnet4,,,ainot'YOe„, ceiye:the inconsistency with •,vhich tll4 , iiiit t :it 'Reif they:adopted t he resoldtion now'SUbrdittedtatii• , yh tisnl i,clFiation`lie was well aSSltred, htsaid, that theffotige • 'W(itild• always . he : readV to'enter 1, - trarm4i and 2616641)i' v‘u pou •a hy meaku - 6 that night' be thought . liteellOgi be benencial to lieland, lei it comeirani i eitl4r4i*; lli A iit. - lion.' Gent. himself, or from ‘idtateVefiitSter quarter it might. 'There w , ainOkiecoSslty, Ole-400 ; liir tile •HoWe to uled - re 'itself tti that . etTe6t .b l y . any , • I. pfevinus resolutin. He Was certain in hiri;owndtl6id, Ny hate - er tni&lit base • beery at any rime .t.s:ertil ii) • inc• contrary„ coat the, Holfse liad `tieyqrlooked With an t.••, , e of indifference on theitiieretitsit'll'eliiiil; and he c'ouid t it tiSver'f.c.it, that cul t tii pail' et: the pre sent; G werririikittOvofild ever lidth'elt' most 'ardeht a, iid sin , ere wish to pay every' a ttentiOn• to 't froiCAn (ciests, and tolirotitnic then) to the utmost of their , • , power ;, but be could not conceive that -ii-a4 to - he done by calling out the kionse at that rrAßtrent'teidtv'a . ' 'ltCsollition that so nqitated agiiti l ifk i fi e e. mei. .stires, they , had so' lately - pa' sieci, and' ll'Ar'eby indifee . ,abellef ill it tliey li,Kl done' that - N.O)4N was lil4ri, r (o: proddce dist-indents. Ti,e R . %},t. I i(M,`, s tletitlbniti liail'itiatte this liesolnood the grotltid 'work to ftiii -, dice a variety of 'arguments, whch, in his OpihiVp, were very irrelevant and tditiceessary. Tie' dliticil rot, howc'er, trespa‘s'oti thetitne of the'llolktr. folloSving hint into sb- Wide a field, bdt would con ' tent himself, after the tetv obervittioUS he had made, `With naovin& , `the pre\ ions questiOn. ' The S . PEAIC Ell then read tlieoliginal -Alotion, and' Laving poithe previous quest tou r , ' • .• AL': GIiATTA N sail, that liaving• been 'alluded . . .to on the present evening, as well as 'bit a former ,:. occasion; as an authority ropeaing . 1116 linrtiCular i. . I ""te':otirelatid, he would Sviaito Make a few ob liervail6i- • 1 . - ' •• . , t . Motion. With' re4oo. to ,„ ,s on, t ~.., I ), • ,t. ilk Bilk that . hail ~,,, lately' passed, the. •Hodse, Ito twouhi say, that it he had voted at all, it \vould c.fll-..' taint). Li ve i,-.,• ii Or the shorter term Of their Ora , ti mi, and tbe:i he would have voted for the•BillS. . lie expressed },iii elfin terms: of high admiration . Of the setitinients which' had just been delivered by Li , Right lion. Ft . icitkl "(t4: Sheridan) in nritt;ing forward the IlL'sollition it.liit.l) lie had submitted to the cohsi•ietat ion of, he which ex, ited in Idin the deepest ,gratitude., and , i 'whtt:ll must excite•the satne . in the breast of eve Arish ni:iii , born the very i:iiiil and favourable opinion they coilvc)e'd, of thy' loy;thy, -4eal, and . artacinflent of the 1',..0pk 1,1" t bal. L'outitry to thi.: Gnyernment' of this. The very cfofpfetttand animated inain.kr',in ttvhic:l house s,:ntiments Wcre ieliyereri, coidd not 131 1 tu ohtk, , :. de4.tlr iinpt . t.t.",inon all \s-LO wei - ,c in- 1 terestea fur itt. , .t part Of the T . Juited . .Ettipire ; auci if Ile differed 'with his Right Hon. Frieno in any ire- N)c . ton thereserit occasion,' it Was riot in tke,sep. • timOnt3 ther m:-:lvs'" but in thd particulai direaron: of them. Ili Right Hon. Friend had stated, that ... t.ce thou g ht th, p litig of the late Buis (the insur•.. r a _ctitOt) and the Artily Bills) was not necessary : for ‘ 4 , own part, h e (nulel 'not but differ with ItitilmOst, , Polutedly on that head. His Right Hon.Frienclha4. also stated, th at t h e re had', always' b e en . 3 French Party in Ireland. He allowed ,the justice of that atatenictif ; but lie be , ' ,- 0 - edthe Tionse and his Right ilon. Friend 'to reeollect that there was' 4,!:NrY,grOt difference bet ween a Party that had existed, .414,# • . • l'artY, that now existed; and not only that; but there , , • was alio a gredt di ff erence In'the linieS ; . and now that . France was become itiCh a gigantic'PoWer; and a Fr,•,.,ncli Party existed-in Ireland, that was alone, sir • ta, opinton,,a , goodreason tor adopting a strong meh- • *are. There - might-.be times when the common law of the land was by no means sufficient for the safety end security of the country ; and-when that, i . the , ease, strong measures must be resorted to. Ile "did,.,,, ' ) ?t lile,an to say that Ole people' 'of Ireland were 'hi:.. ge*ral di sittiL.iit,ect ; en the contrary, he joined wick, tls Right:Hon. Trietnk in the beliEr that they'',:vet;„ E101:v1%111y,, hyaip•and :..tir:illy, attached, to, the: G Oiierti.' • 1 . 1 . 4 -14 or tliiisonntry. ..lt was not, howev-or, sufficient to e„,. )r . •-t Ila t.ihr tic ular count'kes were undisturbed. Mr. • • ~.. s{~ [: e. - • , . . . YiltitiL4 ii&x„lii.h4rl no tisaiht, has ve4 right in Whits ic:iemy ?,' If Mi t ts; i d n o t, -if they . fou4ht against hitif, kie had said 'tif iti counties ofaipiteritry;. Vel.:lford., P, they sharect Itt-Yjur tianite e rs,.thy4hetilltshare in inid Kilkenny ; but there-iniglit be discontented your tights. He had ua•dot.lbt-but the great majo 7 Pailitis:iti abet -tlnarters-, whiehlterw . aniii , eient,-io , tity,4t tr ijii;) c.,atliolicA in Ireland would tik 'up justicy the extfaordinary pow q rs,- giveli, iv .t,lic.,BilK,; -inn's against' the enititnlBnrerienty, and tintipsili lately passed. `1•11; Right Hon. friend * hai - itateti , ;' ' 1 'hon.! :ton haat] oitt , thi,s.:, fritopi,;.what liad; late*, !taken : that - the peopf4 of Ireland were in a ` '!tare of peirfet*C, place. ,He then #dvetted -. 01 he Address of the Pro tranquillity,, ancl that a persott.ofilhe highest autho,n le;tant'Grand `jury to'ille' l CaffieliCi:iii. the County rtly, juianothe,r pine, haq 0, /1 i t , as ,hi' s opinion::.;; f" Kilkenny, at the late ik..ilies, in which the Grand that the Army Bill was unupcessary. That high au`..- 1 jury_ congratulated the Country that there was nOt a thorjty might think s 6, Vitt hiTtinid nottngive..witlfil Single person to be trißci,for.sedition of disturbance of iinOtiniqUltAliead. ::/.111e 4 greit totijeet, a'f•the Aralis s i the public peace . . And the Catholics, in their'answer, t ill Seemed 'not to be fuliyAwiet:aty . pfl i tilit 44.) . 4 outitmfuiVthe , . - pcioektiltrtrtittlranquil strote oPlthe , 'ewlhe, dis..irming, not.the,re u at.mess OfAtieyeo- ' Country, to the. harmony anit unanimity •ill_.) . sisting •Ipte',',but 'Cert 'a in . 0611:ions - '&1 1 thein'ewlibt4'6\e'ktels, belWeen Ili ;-:.. l- - i•tifeitali(s an dCailiol I c•i; and - the .. .if pledge l • rid Who Went , alintit.i-he eixt;l:tir'y ittOiliehAtiet .Ot • i . theAttkeixti,.to,iniaihe VrOteitett:i t , ill presery . oo,l4, !farmers, imcPfgentittheivivaistiNteviqinowillo hgvo-ii t.eace i of the Country, and .in uniting . against' the . , arms and plundered them of the same, to use iy4,l coffiduAveiiedt3raiiimicievewebohttybwth of Ftqic rif' for rebellious purposes, and, one of the chief 6116t-t . s7 iiiiineiglss,, ap,c:t f t h,._ ,e F tvii i I cy kre i nch ; 4.ROpatiou . From,- of the Bill wilktti,t,44frPrfl friPse,rObecl i t lary,cr : suat speCialens,orharinonY he hopea tilel3(:st results; of doing that. - A pOt her . 813 . ja 'OT 'flie`A . Et was to Lk- : a ivsli afithiel plitop.lti of, I reiat i I.sa w :thei r:si tuati on in; vent coniptilitorilbaths froth.being'ndiriiiiiiteredVand-', its true light, it they had strength of mind to bear . iotheeniatters Which tended:D*omM anti dillit a se ipj sl , their calamities with fortitude, the care and'atten- ; surreC . l ion f , He _all owftcl ;hat, .llprp 14t.,tati . wAr i e. 14 firdop P,t ill ; tint Fit: E gmliiip effi t : spu 61 6 pa t fili if 40 ::un#o, them. i.o Itutional, an'd alluded to the - r dying ret t uesYottdi'd :the strongest and closest bonds of union. It would Kil warden, which had W6l fret*iitly'ciliafed; ABA' . .nzit'be 4 tiociisAii for; theiii teilbek lorsWilinid,ittoGe- Nolale Lord had, however,giVen his entire approha- noa,_ or so. sAir.ityrl44‘.l, ,4) ice the, efftltS of k'rencli ,trOti tO'Aas of a simitafTendeeek. - , TAild*YelOeitOn interference . , 'ix."'hic'fi' had 'entailed min them, in return )also, who iwai!universallyallOwed in :Itelantlakoho iv: olllitinAtiti'dotrightsi: a:state.of thvbaSest shivery, QonMutignal •./ndge„. had sanetkoned siMkturfures . arid the vilest r opyresioki ; They would ratbs:r look in ,17.0.ani 1798„ There had also been at that trine writPititltud to/he.rerh-of 1775, :'when 'they re= ...,..„, ..,I, .e - , .. . - t s• - 'a very Cons ittitional Attorney' General Ad Sdittitor covere 4 i their teak an 0f.17.0-whettthey, . . ; Geberal, ihefeli'Mrlifki htinirtitadrdrstwrabetirg Bill recovered their Constitution; and, impressed with :introduced on. that subjet% .W.Altrlik9 h l Fe,..ti/55#19N-P., ; thtig4..tadvanries, when .:sliw'' Va . 'ilionlent' 14 t' that the most Constitutional Lawyers nad all agreed i ) tentivf and , desirous: to , i temove . tkop i e,.... diadvilo in the Recessity of resortiog to such measures, much i i teett iiii 4 V 'W•ltielt they still i c fhkt ) ;''lfhtl ' -3,glieb : Alit nth-nit:id' iffitdelOiiii"eiliti-aigitioteMh•oPitiorilliOt l' were presumed' to be done a lt'ily by tii , ,'! limialk 110; Hon. Friend,...liermusisay,itliat,if he . .wslm te* f siAt4t, 1 : had'in) doUbt but they would j with heart - and ' op again, he would, for the safety and and_Sectiro of :, hand to epo.titattithillitntatAh 40.110iy,.; and,mt Might .11..laud ti lo,ke fcg-those.Aos. ~ It) ,141:piet:.!4: 1 4,7 t ir then bid defiance to any Power trmt migp, aktvnipt .4 Irish Legislature h:11 ilizied'Al'i c or :1-sit -4 ki ,t 1 tolatto - ekcb u r t iAWLLEffil3weL;:: .14(, : i. :614 f t , f etf,,li y . against different Cii;trither4 of the public ;JeciCe, koaeli : apl),cuyp..t . ,Sll4t,mtl4 ~ 4tj'y 9.k,h!, pop, ,F,ri i ttnd'A,Mtir tit 'l•:tigcsinst:i-lteoWhitatcßoyit in, 4774 , ; Hod, attetwartis i' (ion whic h dent to a consideration cr die state of against the Hearts of . Sleel'aird tat.ii_v-of-day-.130yc ; Irelandelitittuoi;ofilthrttiMticli'alludeate4 Ernettotx•-' ................, . lie could.,uot, r therefore, think . that the_ people ;• detneed, thi:,two . Bills lately i nased. . ',af'lreta4":Cchtla coiiEeTFe L tliat'llo?fie u 'ktias - iiich I- - ' l .Mr:' . ljlt.l:et:' tifii-Jil&d 'Of ou6 part .di 'tlie''''f . roti:' ... t*retit 4.(P'itheiiiiilgOtff, : - Itqld :careless , of -Click: id,' ‘;enthttwit'sintitiet i a,pnd,d4aßPF9Yed of the.,other. , ; terests, because they had passed those Alts ]riot t Mr. liii.NDll44l/ declared that tin man was was certain that much...stßinger Bills than diesel. rtiOit, 2 ;stiftly iir;lrregge'd'Aith a Selise.of the iiiii'sdile w-oitt4il i t t ot . tdo - , , ,balCythei.nii*Oli'lef,Ao „the trmclotn I that 104 tlrevadcfl.in Ireland for Si) iippr Years,, than Of ire itl:„. that ,airdttival, of,, ovAipl3f.cli%wbailces i himsell; nor'ef i th666l, that had ahsen frouVii: Ha: and insurrections would. G gi ali Fs4 p : w . tip,,t,l4fight f whilet-be:4grueet Witltitis:ligm. Ftiend in,this poirt4 : cttherifie, -, fd , t4ot,,the-i'Pret;ent hitIZIOPP -( 11 I !°' r q.). llll.-. he would not . agree with him in others. His Hon. try;: thttriagot.that . France wa s.at, 9 , l y : docir s :,and i Frienef titaiedilhheiriiiiclies'etiAted,.but din not Slat - 6 . it was . necessary tfAl remind the,l9,, that . iii!sn,iii...a i tint ~remedy., For-,lns part,-he believed that there situation, we werStAlet to tool; at the slate, Ot 144\i$ was aerench 'faVon in Ireland, and therefore he oh the More i ptioejpi oiriight and . wriog ie ow, ou!he believed that the Bills which , find been that Session imperiovs.neee_ssitY of.predomintning,circumstanees : , - passed, were necessary. In this opinion he, was h had been the -invariable praCkice, to, suspensl f_ltd , 1 - confirmed by the Statement' or his Hon. Friend on most 'couati!utioi , ol . laws in, the ease q(akitiyqsipn ; i 14,lefg-,04. ,qr4trtan), who !knew. Ireland, its:.well, and when there was a' Frunch party itmlrttlod, : and' felt for its interests as strongly, as any hody. we might do at-Ont.%.l.inie-what-.we_would not do. at His4c4Oin i•l4‘rietidi liVitlitit way in whi - c i 1 he hrraghi another. Ile thonpt the Bills peces s ary forthe bet- w fora tl rd this mOtio, remlutlel him (it the desc;111)- ter security of We Ccanntry tigiiiiiih'invasion and thi- i li on by some wag of .n noTtci, ilu ii, , ~, w1,1.'.) was turbance, and. he voted for them, not tOr the pur- 1 sa idam i l l ia4o i. : 1 - ► 1,,,,, ~., .. • . • -- -, --- .poseOse oe ~xteth.io :p g , t .1(&1?(AVer t 4. Ilsectov,:ti, trtto,4ve .. Novae the eNier that he f.ecrctt ti., chide!" the Country . 4 tr,l r.;: t iti„. Tie' w a s sorry t o I lifV ( a I.: f -..•n C 4 itthiPi . iiit; lidi'hiYront '/* . r: ght4'lilaffs proloiple Up so mu s h or the time of'tlie 1* . );11t.: ; but he could i to pi 2 , 4frzo ,) r Stilli l oworer,he ponld ;.,ot t,pp.,,se the .lioi, limp the rcason,lie - hid biVen help flaying th us ;•' - ' i ' ~.1 alter ac , )1 . i f t ..t of •t ' • ff ' b . motiou, su ) .. e.,i. to the e a ioo (. 1,1 par 1 , • intiell cm the i subject'of these Adis in whict, he . dii- Wiitch'cort d't . :thnethile'lldislttat'l'irrliaintilit hadijust :fered f ront his Right' ilOn. Friend. He wet) Avert. • i 1 timught tit to adett. . . - ,ed to that Dart of the Metl l on'w,hichhad fol. i:s MI it , k Lodi . iri.p . ;le '''SiEt", ',,,,,,,, ,„ Fc.,. on , o e t l i : • 1 ,twato 'object au hiquir): , into • tile: t ,,,,, mi l t •fr e litild ; 1 Resoiukttut. 111 a Winneli;ifxfthtudglidtaklitally :e i ISt ,and i.ti'eonsideri i tig that ..94e'4, he sliontd divi;le it li n ireiand,, to Imrs ,,,, t i, m v,,tein under .3.Vliich. it ' , intethrep he'ads p ;vi.*iln,.catiOO, A:, i-i'ciili tire, nisi' Itc- i - .had --..., c ;ti> The Irisli.l;Atitie&t.it4if . isit' r ilciiin9bcl6% ~..ljti6 6i s t Y.:'''':e., . 3 0 1 4 t , t' t -" I ', e . ' t 6 : st i i."'7`, l l ic :-: `, 1 1 `: , , c , 1 1 , 66 ,,,`.1; u 1 ;,7 1 lat t he Union, that they should flannel elte ,ith the' ~ 1 lli 1,, , _ t,,iong i plaits, frog / e.. ~) 3 ),.. aL i op ec r • aPtofxl-tr- tbc Inost Ntieficial . piitp : o , 2 , . :n? ''re \.‘:f-'. 3 •i dint: plecige•t& - be riltleernced %.,- .•. :t.,-,.: 7 ~,,;: - i .11 '' iii Ill'llliiti cpi,ildint? l. e ritihti iTfifof l C 4ted 1.6 .' ; tie i '4llr. LOCKHART expressed supyisc„that the' idvitnc4..itient of theythicO l O n 61 . the peC)f)le'i brit tif°3° . 'l,liifit tfOn* - :',AiVieViiah"wlib' rail' tifobilif •fiir . ard uud:s, h,i,i been crossly tiii,applietl ;. s 6 olitCh . s6, s . ,th - tit i tiii,s motion, h a d r e pregentetythp.,4 . o * ,( ua: L e ii,b_ ' i i l - I .l l l „. '; , 4? () l l l ll l ) l , . ,, ')* ,;l ' , l l ' , l , ' , Q rt ili c l i t . , i d, s t f ( r ) c . e '-il:: 1 ' :- . 1 .1 1 6 . d 1: :',. r14 ° . 1 . ..i\ t i l l C) .l. , c 6 i i i . • i ' i ' .l, ) l l , l t ' i a l. r ) : . 1 : . i tt i ls e e ,„2 ! c h: i t , i Ni t , ,h a tails ,4% di . s i t ii i 1 6 1 . t o I ; i i s l l i i t:t e t t l l I h .r y o C m ( l ) , s ii t i k tk or l l o it e a 6 n rn b p e t i;i i e n. had frequently - taken place en - this stibjeeol l l! liaa !So t. t r ti.olnlleinf;,p4imensioti of f ille,Cons,thiaticin, been . found that the maSters h . aa..io . t done, , ''tti , , , i.' X cis were but the; - e,tereise of if.' 'IYO'Call au' the' fund.-i had been r , t heir duty, 1 a reltily abused, : . 11 - 1.(1 omen !., forth thepbtswri givienlby.ithei , CenstLutintl .for..:the tniS;t4eit. Ile had'hithself talien ciAsidc . :l;' , lbfe rills I 1; ,-„ ic ,.... t ,p n of the peaceiiblt and Ipyal Subjeas, was min this 'subjet,. and Knew that the pres iii elit'ik-ls ' but to put the Cobstittitioit in forte. — Ple - Was hap py that the e_xa s tititi, t of,Oe . .ltiztt Hon. Gentleman ~ ware most of iliiNn good'nien ; 'there iritiii . t . , therefore, ha'v - e been great misinanagenient in thoSe funds'hav- had not been followed by the other lkirrlit Hon: . - , c' • • ingyeen expended e.'itliciu,t proilusty . a g!cater nuiu- i :Genikvmsnixvho hail spoke from the sameibenth, I llid I - IJointed out Cert ain . measiires tOr the relief ' ber of iieii.)cti'ol,irs than i 4. Ire ITiouDit It wo,hne • . 13, I . tiOttt:t' shah tO 11:1ye tl‘.e presetit tlitn•)" Of . i . 14 "I', or iraitlCl. A 8 to ' the measures respeting eduCa to gui)d)rt' .l6 Ove two i;re0.5:.:11991, for tiff' c.uc,.ti?ti I tigh, he entirely agreed' with that iron,,,Gentie . cif , ti l e big4ler oi.ders • for when a little si11 , :;01 wat matt ; iind ;is to a composition fur olies if that i .. plauted, it tats soon ;waltzed in its opera:to:H. . By iii . hauid . ,hi , necessary; lit. 4-: should "tibt''''opi dit-it, pre the lakit'r of "iit:l4nd,'' tfire 4is t id:b c 0 ti-e,e sr hool in viael t i l i 4 t composition Fere, .to be prygrelsive with eve,ry , Fliqcyis J: iind there vein,thirty-tOtir . themees the tim s- es, and a well a r mored as tythes arts in this •: in the qoutary,there alight ti) be f0i,:.(6,.,,.,iiu c c,,,i n [ , ! 6)ll,lt.rilto the cic.ll;y. .Ai to thellfitstion Of eman schools ; o'o it ,thos werc,added to tWe . it:.:i!'pllihile cip:meo, ills difficulty was that the principles of the schools, he thqtrltt ;110;1_9 wi.?Uld be suclieleprier'ihe i relll : :;iiiii Woultiti Me event' of The' oa . ftiolie' getting educatiu q f t t i 'hp,r..,gltsr,orael . i. by the l‘ti.v . 0 - Ireland l powe,- be dangerotts . to, the Rotestant ascenttitteY. I there innst beassli - ootin evcry p v i , ;! l , w hi c h al/) ,,,60 1 - • i l e . 1 ho llg i lt it iiiiiili tCIY hotter that Government cd iii numt.?:s?r A o 2 0 (1 V irishe '' ; !l'irt.i.' .. L . i . e' not, shoill.l i;e strOng ;Intl tilde` to vomnitnct oniiiions; be hoi;VeVer; more . Ihan .400 sChook, ifnd those diiiy fore, 4toti4l votit4e fi bnoes, atid.he,popl,tlipt tile • • educated 1 1,000. . p ,perrqs.' , It* the w there a s e h ot ,l i n - Gov•r,n .. Q in would ot ;ill ti mes b be competent to , eVery..,..pari i _ie l, I 1 91,4 1 1 ' n that Would be sufliCkent i io.operi,th e ot"fidrice Oft ( 1 41 p0,0pie„.:.,„ He.hmild eor the eAtx%aion of the common pcop . !e,wll6 ,x)t'tt, i Toty, figip)st „the metion, because it hp plied a d •- i, l his opinion, a PeoPle of a literary turn of 111, 1 10; '"rel?L'liefil' or Attt . r tin itiefiqdrth; afid yttni.iiPe 1.11)011 and gven to purSeit, of that n q iure.. - 1 - lie eccotid At:Loi tiis,l.4zislature,,t he r •necesitty tOr. which,had , head on which he should t ouc h,,ywas the a g riculture • bean adnitte,l on all hanZis: ,• • • • • • • of the Country. He apologized to the I- ouse , for . ju r pfgßisvo , o b„i, s g el L . that 'it' 4a4 .by .the introducing this sUbje - el, which'fie'slieuld , pot' !Ave .1: ; ; ; ; i ac.o,,t ioi . of s,le,t p,.ins as hatl.,been - s t i 4 gps te 4 j ay i he done had it not been under consideration of the' It Mil. GNltt.:.!iliali'ckr. Gi . itttaii), itikitii:oo- House - during the late Administration, In ,this . ple nfilreland .were to be gaitiv:l 'ovtir4 : Lie could article, the ,great .object .would be the rpodiea- not sup p ort the motion of the , Right,. Gentle tion of tythes.- - I;here Were twomsd:l e he . saicl, 1)y ' ''lW - hi iii)pnilte;' iti itepresent shape . ; lia: it'be would Which tythes might he in6Aific4:;„cipp.Nylisiii niOcl , ein Ol l -Se4t ,to line out all, O t ter the +Nord"' Sesiion,!' lie which the farmers and owners afloat! paid'io much - should t hen'voie "for the motion: ~i s , readiness to .:- h , , for hay, so,much for corn, &c. whiell ! yips ,an idea ~ _.,:.mr; Sti ',lntim: rose to*l i res s recognized, Another method was commnttltiOn by cpmply%t:ith the suggestion or the lion. Member, a land ; but. tins had, not been' so much - in pradice• ''readieetS which' he had before iiriih . ..t . tett . in • thq .Ati the disturbances' in .Ireland, .by the White , speech 'which preceded , hisootlou. "ley's,. the Hearts of. Steel, the Peep - of _.Day boys, . ThO SPEAKEtt acquainted 'hello!). Member, that .. .licl thealritshers,..bad:at:isen from the : oppression of no , aniendtne'ut could - bit olide on the'Oridlind. Mo tytl)eti ,lf.this boneof contention could: once be re- „ tion after tlie Jieviws ,sutisticil . ~.41 a 4 Mbl outs .1 WO ved, it-would do mortfor the peace of the country move d : . ' , than .Cou4l well be conceived. The House, eed not . . , ',/tli.lSHEßlDiltilexpressedia!wiih, that 'the pre pledge, itself 44 any measure ; but he was sure they vious question should be wit lidrawn, iii order to gitie': could , riot proceed too, speedily ; and there was no him an oppatiiiiiV of - iiiltiptiit the atnendinegt grievance, the,retyinyal of which would: give such suggested; but without-.effet% He did nix mean to g ene'ral satistadion as tliat of tytheli The next ob- ' detain- the House long.; - by availing himself of his' 1 jed on which-he;should toueh, , was'lreligion; and, on ptivilg e of 'rtplyiiii (oIlie"arg..1;no::! , .; I 1.4 had been - L' , this head, we bad lio right to inquire farther than urged - akpiiilt: -his riltitiOn. ` (hq ., .ie ' ,rerc.;' t ) ilcltakn as.4o the prObApilly 'of its infidencing the Roman' . w l l9:ll.tippoSed time:llWinoli4o: ;: was :: c.e asur4uptir 'C:itliOlics to form allianc,,s w ith our E n en l y . ,wh o _a t e - .the two A6ts that bad passed the Leg islature.—He of thesatne persuasion. The.queation then to bae o n. l _haft o,reu_tiutd, that,,.as :they .were....llow the ..law,, sidered , wasi . Would the Catholics join the naturoi . 1! they , Attkr%}-totitied'-te xespeot.. lie, cf.e,ild . not Se, • ‘• ' . • •' 11••••., '• i what objeaion the to n. Member Could have .to that part of the Resolutlo f - wirich stated that the permanence -of :these 4as Would be a viol.:tiou of the. rights cif ihe.lriSh People. Woeld,anv matt say; thaVit would not. That .Was the ground upon which- they Were , to expire - at. the cud of three:years, If his, 'words were a. refiedion upon the Alts, the limitation 6-three years was a reflection uponi hem, because' it' the permanence, would , not b,•:' a r.iola time sof the : constitetion of Ireland, . con - triton: sense would demand that they should: have, been made permanent,' As. - to 4 , hat,tiad:fallen from the Hon. Gentleman-who-had just cat 'down, he should say 4 word or ' , twa.upon that I „:efore-lie cameto notice the observations of his itight Honourable Friends. The!, onus porbandi cc! aitllylay uponsthose, who brought fortViird . :itieaSerts for suspending._ . . the .Constitution, telhewi the•ner_osity that existed: for such . Meal sures.. Had Ministers stated ',what That. necessity vas I Were' there any documents before the•: -louse &hewing upon, what groduds.such measures rested-I-- Ministers had even refusetLto sulf.r the Aas to be feree& annually info discussion. It was because 'he expetlecr to prove that' tfteie was no necessity to continue the Aarfor three years, that he wished -Ahe . tionse to:pledge:themselves to the. iupiry.,next Session. I,l 4 e, e hloq, G..ntlemAti . had dealt ,tn strong language ,re=p?Csting' booris, When he Contended, that it vas - expedient fa- make the ' people . rat •obedien ti . ; but view the do6lri no ,of'tliesConstitution was .that should have 'etipAli)f,Ae benefit of, its , benign The'Elon. G'etillernan'sAaitirine Virdi', 2 to make the pe6Ple.first f 4 1 11 64' It hen ;love Ott 401/ermnent.', If he ; read . but, theistature which he -had, attplauted a tu4r4 to his,!)-lajest o y's reign ty have repealed, the [Lib must.adinit 'rn'orie , , 'opprtrStictNthin 4invicatintiyllifieVid tver. : . been t0i1.4, querod Ettry . tle rim intAt Jtn nw, r 4140 k his been to four years ago, they v 66.1 nois haVe •attaclittlent and o.4lMAlity cite` the.parr 0f1,,e Irish people than , at.preSint - : Whitt, had staiti..t of the non-144i.. detice of, the. Cicely, the want o 1 churches and., 'glebes, sievt'ed the nceeF;Sity iniitiiry: I.3iy Right" H 1 - ton . ;' 'hacht&cluarritecl .with (lit! stilt& aft • theFretiltaiit schools - low Sit o 0 acres of land' were applieg.par ipe„inahnenanc9 ut eighteen small hoys, and orthe:linjUstice partiality, and inequality of` pl•o ' kiced 'the' Peep of Dirlioyi;: tlit'White s PßoVs, and . .:eien'the ilistaripeariniee,oE clitifte4thin , in irelapd. „When _he ,lie,trd this,, he, could peitit out something Ixtsides a . Prencli` faction, that was the' cause 6rOatuthatice in' th:it country: His Right Hon . ; PriOnd hied siatedp that there. wits a French.fe4tion Llfstland, but tha,t , i! Nt4rfie:wanted them to try what ihut con temptibleThdton `was. ThiS 'was • the - objea of t prop6sek. - -and'4odli, England and Ireland thern...; l 34-AjOt Honot.lr, able fe,ehti had 'compared that rconleiltptible 1.1(7,0( n in Irelandto 71 . ' illustration was a gallant one, and he c.-as strie no - thilik. the latlyle644,heauty because of thepituple. 13ut he 4tbuld„lay tq„her, Vrit ;.\ patch on that bi:ft"ii6 not placfe initsk the' )'ootr , " ilck : 11'1 t , sanita -manner hilt.slietild.say,vess.upenAtiFroncli.latt but do not spread the mask of arbitrary power,,ovex the whole face of the , i'‘ount ry. con suh seritie to the Croarine these nteasur,s for st.t peociiiig.thq Constitution \vette necessary in order,to its preet . l.Oation. , • I,t prepter vitx vicergli petdere catisa." ' As to.the staceintAnt thatAliP t cjathoiics,Would have a b.euer, it they thecif,.lny -4414,y-aO4-valour-against-the -!?'reach, .lie put them upon . such an evelitnent. without firer giving theiiiWhat . they; wer4 - entaled - to. ile wished to It no* -. 1 4 041)ar ,et 4. c r, i lly sea or .land,. tliVre was in w hich the rish,.(3',liiio t t.l bad 'not git,i.Sig:tial pritcpof,thuir 'on - Very and courage. They mil t trttstlii 1'; Calholic` Militia for the defence of Ireland,' n!it;(l,': if ht Alley/could not be 'trusted, - he would not support their claims ; 'but -ha was votwilicea that the Catholics• •wereas loyal , as the ProtetAnts Ilfe thought that me,isures having foi. Weir obje:ii rel:ei of tliejgre,it ina'SS -of the pro . puiation would be—mote-effectual than the Bill • which terniitiated ;11 the higher classes....He wished to encoutik6e the, CAtliolics, to I:l,‘ss forv.•ard de fend itt'suppciet'Bl their to vereigit'S, 'Thßine; ratiksin ale serv itd - rOf zeol , gondol' would, reppvt.% every teelios, of tiist E entiotl 117 Ch tries I. once asked Selden'hoW lib 'bii!iltt "?' The a'n•. swer Seek, for and remove the cause." that•he.had not saki that . any viroofs Were necessary lo , alrew that the Ci loyal, ',ar th 4 a. want pl'alleSiance w•cs charged upOn them by their, enenmies, who would'he put down by, such conduct as he had statcd..:- Mr. 'Fiiii'.ittbArcailthitied . that he lind , mkeoncti ve d It 'yin • 1 4. 15.1.1111Vsnggeqed the, pmpriety of appoiAt ing a Committee of 'lnquiry into the State of Ire land, • COCHBAND JOUNSTANF..:§IIpk.Iid v()Ie .Ig.)r.,•the nxotion. This ,was it. scrutinizing and Engtod expecled every man . should do itii A )) ; liiiion then took ptace-4or . the ov: , - tion; 43---Xot the previous goQstion, 70.---;M:iji,- rity against the °riga - till motion, 43. - • On our :re-altins.kion, WltionAtit was theing.the inntion whicb.,be„ had 01N1 .notice, for certain Ilt:9ll.ltiOU6 respeilitl ,the state of the Army, w . lid) . ptti4:ohseriatfohs explanatory Of theft nature. 'rho ,ti,iiie'llettilutions Of has founded upon the Aim utc the table. The Noble Lord oppositc‘had;Jequnter:Rpolutions to. toore,• bt,tt as it wask not, bi t tended'io cuter into the discu 4 sion Ow n , , be should giantenthimself with moving - first Re soligion. 11:ie:At:solutions were then gerQrally, pot and agreedio, as were also ~ those of :Lord Ca st l e - , reagli, and the discussion upon each being pot- otr:ti, this 04y st ntn ht, the Resolutions , were creieted to be printed. _'lib Noble Lord's Resolutio n s i nc l uded some respeEting Transports. VOLOLITEERS. Sir TIi(MI.i.y.TURPON was happy to find that the discipline qt the Volunteers we. , to be itn• proVed; and' wished to give his Albjesty's .Mini4ers an opportunity of statino- their intentions. 'On that head, as Well as with Alspe6t to the Training Bill, which he loolied upon as necessary to keep up th e Volunteers. Lord CASTL.EI?S4OII cleclared, that every at., titntion would be paid to the Volunteer 4., in order w