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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT., ROUSE of PEERS. MONDAY, JVLY 20. The Marquii of BuTE, the Earls of GLASGOW, CIVOJTESTEEti and KINGSTON, took the oaths and Lieu serlts. tr the Appeal ," May v. Wharton," Sir Arthur Pigott was heard for the Respondent.—Further hear 7 log on V l / 4 1 cluesday. Mr. How:lot/5s, Lord C. MANNER 6, Sir EDWARD KNATCHBOLL, Sir PATRICK NIURRAIi; Mr. CHAP LIN, Mr. GRAHAM; and several other Members of the ,House of Commons, brought up, the Lottery Bill, the Members of - iarliament Equity Bill, the Irish CuStoms Fees, and a great number of 'Private which were read a.first time. A considerable number of private Bills, on the: table were 'forwarded in their respeCtive stages. The. Earl of SUErOLK .rose in pursuance of his notice, znd after 'adverting ri.) what he had Stated On Friday, OA there were same points relative to the Dolence of the. Country, the subject which it was his intention to bring before the House,' which it was not fit should go forth to the Public, moved to . clear . the Bar, Strangers were accordingly ordered to withdraw, and remained excluded for about half an hour. The doors were then opened, • and after going through some private btimess, the House adjourned till to- , tnorrow (this day). HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY, JULY 20. The Carlisle and Westminster Court' Bills, the Christahnrch Poor Bill, and. the Lottery Bill, were read a third lime and passed. • . POOR LAWS. . 1 Mr. MELListt, presented Petitions from the parish o 1 St. Ji)hrt's,, Wappinw, the parish e t' St. 4\ on's, Soho, the parish of St. Andrew's, 1-I.,lnoin; against the Parochial Sclidol to the Con Mr. TiI6RNT . O,N presented a Petition iron) Ma - - gistrates of Surrey against the Parochial Sqliool Bill end the Poor's Bill.-01 . iicred to ,be referred to the Ci) on the furor •r BM. Mr. MaLlastr ,prosenteri Petitions from the Pa rish, of St. John's, Wapping, the Parish of St. Ann's, Soho, the Parish'of.St. Leonard's, :ShoreditCh, , the Parish of .St.. Sepulchre's, the Pariah . of St. Giles's and Si y C.l . eorglt ' 4i tht.! of St. Paul's, Coi/ent garden, the Parish of St. Pancras, and, the Parish of St. James's Clerkenwell; against the Poor's Belief if) lie on the table till thu second re.ichlig of the ~ ~ Mr. StYIIWN presented a Petition auinst the Phi lanthropi, Society .A.lntoty Bid, from tNt P.trish Of Mary-le•baue.---Ordert , cl to be reic'ricd to the Committee. on . the rnoticr of Mr. FJ: THOUNTON, was read a second time, and Ordereci to re.terred to a Com tilh tee.. COIOIIO SIittILIVY gave notice, tbiir to-rnorrnw he wool ( ' move fine • leitve to bring in a BilT for altering , the Poor I,aws, so far - as regarded Settlements, and oth er pointii. He was desired to do 50 by the Coun trof Laticaper. The liciase 'would judge whether such a Lill ought to be -posed this Session. mart tA, The Militia Pay Bill, the .rlilitia Adjutants' bill, the Militia Subalterhs' • BiH, and the Irish MUitia Pay Bill, were read a.secolid time, and ordered•to be committed to•morrow. Sir lon N NEWPORT moved fora Retursi of 'the number of Gallons of Spirituou4 Lighooi.distillel in Ireland (inring the.yearq 1803-4-5-6-7, ti p t o . the 'latest eriod to whith Ihe wine mull be tam ; to. ether withlhe Duties on the dis tinguithing the gmarters, find' the rates of Dutie,,—, Ordered. The Irish Distillery Bill was reported, and tilt) Am to.—. Ordered agreed to.—Ordered to be read a becond time on Wednesday. The British Museum Bill %vas reported, and or dered to be read a third time to-morrow. fbe Irish Customs 13ill,was committed, and several Ameti , .iments 6,ade. 7 --Reporl . to-morrow., Sr; CtiAaLtA PoLz Presented a Petition frOm Ho -bert and S;nnuel Eyre, rSpt.t4;tint , , a claimlto priie nJotwy on 4 citintir.,d Vesitl.—Ordered toft'e. on thi table, Mr, Row presentt4 a Nition fr9m it Mr. Chip. matt, stating that thel'etirioner ha t diie4t...red a tiff-- lA:Meet) tins long hair inid the slCni of srAts, swering the put pose of rnanufai;turiO L , lims; which would save a consiricTable stun !o the ' i\lettion in the importation of fur, and claiming, some .tew'ard.'... Ordtered to lie on the table. r,rhATTott tt4Y-Gt , t4ettA I. brought in the Escheat end Forfeiture Hills—Read n first and ordered to be Jr:.?4 a' second time on Wednesday. Sir JOHN wi,lied the second reading <if t Jill to be po,tpritii-d from Wednesday, as soother matter of area iniport:tnee stood fur that aby., . The CiIA:NCXI.I.O,It of the Excirenuett could not, ))owever, at to any delay, ag they Were pressed i't,r time, but the subject - lnight be very well 'dis•; , 1 4ssed cm the qty!stion.of the Speaker's leaving,' the chair. The second reading, therefore, still stands , fur Wedne:iday. • ' Mr. DUODALE prtsentert Petitions from the Town pf Liverpool against the Parochial SchOol antl Poor's 'Relief Bilk, the former ordered to be referred to the Committee, and the latter to lie on the table.', MILITAIOLINQUIRY. The CHA NCELLO qf the EXCHEQUER, per swim to notice, moved tbr leave to bring in.a Bill to 'continuo the Military Inquiry Commission till the -Month of June next. In making' this Motion there .was no occasion to enter upon any discussion. There Was one part of the subjet:t, however, to which he wished to refer. Sy the original appointment, these Commissioners were required to examine into the Auditor's Orfit'e; Subsequent to this, however, another arrangement had been made Ly Parliainent for this pgrpose; and it therefore became Matter of doubt whether the above duty remained binding on ,the Military Cotrinirt,sioners. The new 13111 would 1 , 3 . n0v0 she doubt, end there could be tit;(titiesticbn 1 1, 01 theywould he telly competent to enter upon a ny inquiry Into the fk.titor's Office also, With „, or d w the inontit of June next, wo d o ir, l4 that zliookt he undergo:xi tiolt ' •• ;: • $ • it Was not proposed with any strong expeaation hit the duties'wonld be finished by that time. Buthe Commissioners had been consulted, and they &sled that the Commission should not be continued ! ny longer for the present. If it should be found ie cessary to continue it any longer, they wished to come again to Parliament for that purpose.---. Ve 4, , given. ARMY AGENCY. • -- • Mr. COCHRANE JOHNSTONE, according to, noee, moved—ist, For an Account of the Balances fur or . against the Army Agents . , up to the. latest periut as 'far as the same `Could be sascertained.--,v,d, The State of the. Futids for, Pensions to Officers' Widows, Ihe names of those entitled to Pensicir7s froth this Fund, and the expences of distributing the . satne.— ad, The application of the sums granted for the Compassionate List ; the names of the Persons hav ing, the benefit of it,,and the expences of distri :bution. Mr. LONG, Mr. Rost, a nd Lord CHARLES So :hlllitSET said, that it was scarcely possible to wake hp the first Paper called for. The Motions were, however, all agreed to. Mr BRUNDRETEI. Mr. B4RW/1M stated, that he bad' a Petaled , ' from Mr. Jonathan Brundreth, expressive of a sense , . of his error, and of his readiness to answer any que.4- tion that the House might chuse to put to hies. He triisted the House would be disposed to al'ow him to be brought up to-morrow to answer the question which had before been put to him, His reason for wishing to have him brought up t6-morrow was this :----The examination of the tatter had on' Fri. day lastleeti fixed for this day (Monday) ; bUt on the Motion of the 'Hon./ Gentleman opposite, the further proceeding had been past posied to Thursday; Now he (Mr. Barham) could not mend on Thurs 'day ; and be therefore intended to move, that the business should be further postponed to Monday or Tuesday next week: but it would be hard that Mr. •Brundreth should be confined tor so long a time. The Petition was then preSentetl and read by the Clerk. - ft stated, that he was senaihle o 1 his error, and was ready to answer any question ; that his re fusal had nut proceeded from any disrespect to the House, or its prisUiction, but horn a general' sense a honour and professional duty to ins eMployer.- The l'etitioner said, that he had been in no wise in strumental in the delay of the Wirt ; and dilaimed .all endue prtiality. he: being a IC• Ul l s tra nge r tb ,a ll the Caudit.ates for .Poole. hopld ,the House would consider his' situation, a, any longer confine-. went would be detrimental to him in hiS kO fessioitarpursuits.-r-Ordered to he on the table Mr. BARHAM moved, that Mr. Biundreth should be called to the Bar to-morrow, to answer any ques tion the House might put. The S'rgAxett oinerved, that, in point or order, the House could not accelerate the proceedings on the subjed, having already put of the matter .till Thursday. But in case thutionse thought proper to order his discharge to-morrow, a fresh Order might he made fo.- his attendance at a future time to answer q4e3tiortt The ConwciLLon of the EXCIALTER thought' there could he no obj e cii on w h atever to his being brought up and discharged to-morrow,. altho4x he could not he . examined; as all the purposes .tor which he was confined .had been answered.,. • hitysitY agreed that he should he .bro.eght up`to be discharged, and trusted Abut his po,tpoOe ,tnent of the . proceedings Would be attributed to no improper motive. It was accordingly ordered that Mr. Brundreth should be brought be discharged. up to-morrow to Ott the Motion of ' Mr. BAR/IAM, the ,Order for the' attendance of the Messenger and De. airy" Messenger of the Crown at the Bar 01 the House on Thursday next, was discharged, and or-. dered to stand for Tuesday Se'nnight. Mr, PARKER Corr: presented a Petition from*Wil. ham Spurrier, of the town of Poole, throwing him self on the clemency and forgi'Veoess of the House ; admitting that he had. received : and detanien the Writ fit that town ; that neither MrArondreth, nor any other person, had any access or knowledge, ther clirc6tly or itidireCtly,'of his ha , :ing so detained it ; that he did so froip ignori,nce •of the nature of the.offence, he was committing ; that he was a poor man of 73 years of age, lame, and otherwise infit rn ; that he felt the most sincere contrition fur the offence, of which,.through ignorance, he had been humbly threw himseif on the clemency and huma nity at the Muse. Uu the-Motion of Mr. PAntoi.rttoKF, and atscr a few words trona Mr. PLRCEVr.L., tiie Petiticoa was ordered to lie.oh the table. On the Motion of Mr. LETUBRIDC F E, the }irkl of 'the Comthittee on Mr. P.::wer's Petition was or dered to be referred to a CW1)1 - flitted' . .of the wholo House to-morrow seirinlght. POOP.'s ithl.lF.F BILL. Mr. WHITBREAD moved the second reading o f the Poor's Iteiief Mr. MORRIS expresssed his decided approbation of the Clause, for .granting — reliet under particular circumstances to cott'agerS having some property. If his Honourable Friend r could only carrythis:he was entitled to the gratitude, of the Country, and his labour would not be : lost. He also approved of the objet of innsf of the other Clauses, though differed as to the mode' oe . attaining it. He partf r cularly approved of the exemption of labourers, in certain circunistances, .from Parish Rates, but thought that the .simplest mode of carrying . this into exe:cntion would be by' giving a diScretionary . power tor Magistrates to relnse warrants of. distres& He would vote for th© second reading of the Bill. 111 r, DAVIES GIDDY would also vote for the second reading, but doubted about the proposed relaxation of the Settlement LAws. Mr. WIIITBRE,4 D • agreed with his Learned Friend (Mr. Morris) that if he could but secureitny one of the objeas proposed in this Bill his labour would' not be 'lost, If he could bdt pass the Clause for giving relief in certain cases to cottagcrs having property, it would be doing a great deal. •Tkx; emptian too in some cases was so essential, that it could not be withheld without gross cruelty. He was astonished to hear the Honourable Gentleman n . the other'side objed to the' . proposed regnlatiOn with respe& to the. Settlement Laws, the severity of which he himself (Mr. D. Giddy) had beep the fi rs t to shalco,' By this Regulation every liouptiold er would bAvo his settlement' among his friends and centle&iOns, instead of being removed far Irian 49th, tit was at present the case by the laws. He would be allowed to' reside where he had splmt . 1 he greater part of his life. He mentioned a case which had Caine before himself in the interval of the Dissolu thin. A man near 80 years. of agehad been brought 'before him, he had lived near 50 years in the place from which it was proposed to remove. him, and :such had been his'dread of being removed, that he hadaElnally shut himself up with his - wife, with a , resolution to starve rather than ask for relief. If 'the Overseers had persisted he must have removed ,that'inan... All he could do was to appeal to the 'companion of the Overseers; and the man was.al lowed to remain. • But he wished to be enabled to do that by law, which in that instance he had only done lay perpasion. Mr. ROSE agreed that there were many good points in the Bill, but when the importance of the measure was considered, and particularly that it' went, In - .a great Measure, , to shake the Law of Settlement, he hoped the Honourable Mover of the' Bill would be content with having it printed in its most improved 'state, and then lying over till next" Session. The Right Honourable Gentleman proceed ied to consider the Clauses in the Bill, many of "which he'approved of highly, and was in the 'course of animadverting, on others, when he was set right by Mr. Whitbread, who inthrmed him that the Clauses objeCted to formed no part 'of the pre-" 'sent Bill. . ' - ,TnHITI3,READ, i tt explanationi. said, that ;the I..aw i.t* Settlement • Wal not at all'altered by this ; he only wished to have another Close, which. ;was admitted to be desirable, superadded to .the pre;; sent l'aw.'.He had been accused Ev.some Oersons, and even at• the public meeting of a, respeaable parish in this city, of pertinneity in pushing forward the preient measure. He hoped liis condo& would. not seem to the Boone to tloserve such an epithet : but he a,sured them he •should - cminoy every degree of . becoznig perseyerance ill carrying through, dur ing the present Session, 4/4tever part of the mea sure he could. The Right flonourable Gentlecoati (Mr. •ROse)•agre6d there were three or ibUr..a. the clauses in the preent Bill whieh.deserveci,.his. approbation. Surely there - could •be no .necessity tor leaving them over tor. 'farther • consideration. The Right Honourable • Ge!ntleman had • already 'had,. three or lour mouths to consider - . the measure, and.. With all that atturition to. the subject for which he had been hitherto oistinpished, he, had not even acquainted hitnhelf=with the Clauses of . the Bill. Mr. LUSHINGTON highly approved of 'Oat part of the 8111 which went to .411arge the Law of Settle ment. Mr. StmEON contended that •Overseert had at this mordent no power to dispute the .order. of. a .hlag!strate to grant parochial aid, even where oi L pauper had effetts of his own. SirJ..SaABKIGHT should 1) . 4 happy to thick the Law was so, but he knew the practice was. ether 7 : Aviie; particularly where a person.chaticed.to possest Cottage, probably of 3() R, year value, and.On Whieki the repairslnnight amount to 'AM yearly; Mr: Mounts contended that the Law was as ,he The C:kIANCELLoa of the ExcnEduai stated his ttnth. titanditig of it to be ditterent. l:ie till was then second time and ordered. to be cotnmitted on Thursday. , sT I N DIA IWNDS. • Mr. GRANT havl..e tllnvt'd the Order of the .uay for the House gi,io r ; 11; to a, Committee otv the East Bohds Bill. • , Lord A. H 4111111,7 ON declared that he could not 'sntre,r a Bill of tkk nature to proceed without, -plying to the ElonourahleGenttemert who. were cot- r; it through' !or intrirmation on some P.ints Which it occured to him werO werl,d;eqerving of ex... planation, He ,wished, in the first place, to knoW thr what bbji'd so large a sum was to be raised, and whether - it was for a mercmitile or a political pur ? H e also wished to know what was the state of accounts between the -Conipany .ond this Coun try ? He had siren, On three dterent occasions, sums of 1,000,0001: voted to the it'iost India Com pany, and he h;.d ABever, except on tide iiecasioh, about three years~;nice: ,heard asAo tbe state ot counts between them. He was de*itous likewise to know what was the quantity of Debt, the interest of which by a possibility hilght•tall'on this country ? and, also to lea3h something as' to the general situa tion of the Company's affairs ? If there ;was rOotn' for that degree of deipondency as "aithe general'stati of th,: 'affairs of the Company,'he' mast object to'the ' present measure, which •could only go to' ineri:aso:, insteakl of diminishing the. evil. If their trade'%V . iii' a lcr.itlg concern, it wbuld be - abstard•to allOw tor.exiend it by trading on credit, In this , view'the prUsent must be alneas'Urc pregnant with Much mis chief, and he could not agree that the House should make. a grant so: extensive .without seeing the cut• rout account. tie declared . that he was tar from speaking• from any feeling 'of hostility to the COM* pAny. but that he only. discharged what he esteemed his duty, regreitc,l that the Noble Lord had n.,t been -pies,:or (in tt,e former night when this sub ject was distn-,se !. answer to the Noble Lord's first goestion, hw.vever, lie had to inform 'him, that the object of ,the prehent measure Was to make up a deficit to the extent at upwards of two millions, on an account of some years standing, fir political, not for commercial purposes. 'As to the State of the ae- ; • counts between this Country and the Company, he roust say that he conceived the Company had been aggrieved. They had bven called on to make ad vances from their fund in India for conquests, and other objects, in which the public rather than the Cuinpany'Were interested ; and of these advances they had at different periods received payments in this country. The company had at this moment a claim against the country on this head, as he reckon ed to the extent of about a present nothing bestthe issuing in one way of what they were already fully anthrirised tho year. 170 to do in another, This surely. exhibited no very strong 4ellire to deceive the public, or to carry on money amotm a amount of o t t. h the what was improper,. They. could easily, f rom , th e is moment. o their ble s L to o c r k d , a r: k i edh se th T e e debts, payment of which Might be demanded in this cortotry. No part,of these became due till the year , 1810, atul then not to a very great extent. Before that time, however, measures should be taken to prpVetit their coming on this country in any way which could incommode. As to the general state of 10e atfairs Df the Company, he had no hesitation in 7. saying, that their affairs were iiinnitely better no him they were,two years ago. The territorial deb', IthOligli s great did hot greatly exceed two years !atriottntl , Of the territorial revenues. The Company ;was novtiat- Peace, and the disposition of the native Princes were understood to be most favourable. ILord A. HAMILTON having alluded to thesuppos• ed difference in o pi n i on , a s t o the. state of the Com pany's account with the country, entertained:by the Ministers and the Company, Mr. GRANT said, they had no difference with the .Board of Cohtroul, but with the Lords. of the Tree.; sury.. Tile Bill then went through a Coinmittee, and,. .was ordered to be reported on Thursday. The SECRETARY at WAIL obt6ned leave to bring in a Bill for preserving and keeping in repair the Mi litary Canal lately made from Shorncliffe, in Kent, ,to Cliffend, in Sussex. TA , Compassionate List Bill, Sierra teone Bil!, the FrQgmore House Bill, he Excite Regulation 8411, and the Irish Infirmaries' Bill, went through Committees, and were ordered to be reported to morriiw. Mr.. Ross °brought in . a Bill for authorising His Majesty to permit the Importation of Military Stores into this Country in ShipS the property of any States in amity with His Majesty.—Read a first time, and ordered to be , read a second time to morrow. On the Motion of Mr. Ross it was ordered, that the • liouse do to=morrow resolve into a Comtni4ecl; on the Gern3an and Prussian Linen AEts. POOR LAWS. `Mr. ItTELLtsn presented Petitions from the Rec tor; Btc. of the Parish of St. James, against Mr. Whitbread's two, Bills for Parochial Schools, and bettering the.situation of the Poor. • .Mr.,li. TiIOENTON presented similar Petitions from the BO:tor, B.lc. of the Parish of St. John, Shad well. These Petitions Were severally referred to the Com• rnjttees,on the respedive Bills. The Other Orders of the aty were disposed or.— Adjourned. i • MAILS. ARlttVabo.l taoitenburgh, 2 Dublin. i Waterford. • Dus-41 4otteubur6b, i Lisbon, t Watrrlcad. PRICE. OF STOCKS foils paw A•T TWICLV t .O'CLOCIC• Conaol.l., . . . 61 fl Umnitun . pat THE sun !OLIN( 2Vtd ItALSUM Z. 0 N D. v, TUrStm,Y, i'VgY 21, 1807: Tins:Mimic:it a Gidienturgir arrived;' but its contents have been in 'a great degree:anticipated,. TheStockholtn Gazette contains some details of the lattlos.previous. to the. 14th tilt. which have now tuitortanatelt log. their interest: Ws have been - charged by a Morning . Paper de. voted to Opposition, with incinasistency, for havivg: attributed our reverses in-Egypt, in a great degrees to the circumstancl of our Commanders acing der l mistake with resped - to the disposition andin. tendon of the Matneltikes, and at the same time asserting,' that . it . was extraordinary those. who. planned the Expedition did not take proper means to ascertain, accurately, the disposition of the in habitants. We are not, however, aware of any thing bite inconsistency in the language which we have used. The Expedition to Egypt was, we have no doubt; undertaken under a conviaion that the Ma melukesnnd inhabitants in general were favourably disposed towards us; because we cannot believe that the late Ministers could for a moment suppose that 5000 men could conquer Egypt, if the popula • tion was hostiie to us ; nor can we believe that the ,oljed was merely to take possession of 'Alexandria. Itharediatlly after General FRASER landed, he Sent a force to attack Rosetta, or rather to take possession, 00 it; 'for the Officer who commanded that t;)rcc doesc - not appear to bare expeeted any oppositvn• 'When General STEWARTwas sent a few, days after wards upon the same service, it appears that be went under the . firm persuasion that the Ma.-neluhcs would co-operate with him. That I.erSuasion mqis have been - founded upon information received antecedent to the dkembarkation, for G4n. FilasEit could hardly, between the 2.0 tti March, the day took Alexandria, and the.3d April, the day General STEWhit't marched for Rosetta, have received such itirbrtnation as would enable hitn to form an opinion of the disposition and intentions of the Mamelukes• The Expedition to. Egypt was undertaken under It false notion that the Mamelukes were favourable ti) our cause—our Commanders as upon that notions and we have seen the consequence. ,c trtia D►vision of the Fleet, under the command 0 1 Sir S. HOOD, arrived in Yarmouth Roads yestercis/ morning. Sunday evening there was a very 11411. M-race at Windsor. Their MAJarri as and PauicEsscs were preaent : likewise Princes GEORGE and AvonsTus of HolStein and Oldenburgh ; and Counts HoLmEll and MALTZAN, Accompanied by Count MUNSTER, who introduced them to their MAJESTIES. Yesterday morning his -MAJESTY and PRINCESS/0i with - Their usual attendants, rode in Windsor Park. The Tunica of WALES arrived at Windsor yes' terclay'. Attniitai ESSINGTON left town on Sunday for Yam' mouth, where he will haft his Flag on board 0,0 BI Minotaur, Ad m i ra l s GAMER and ST ANHOPS left town Yesterday ; the - latter is 40 hoist his Flag on board the Mari, of 74 . guns' ~. I