The Sun. — London, England, 1813-03-02 00:00:00

f' f~ dr; m io-ake 4 .LionS of poliey—that the Cos,ernMPht will firrbliali .allect libctili.ity; and taller a tnajor4 -to vote n y' , die eon eiathn i of our Chihlis, .ithd Abirthey will, at 4 t thhr, consnit their real , ieterminatiun, fl rer to ' 'l,;, by making. the : Veto, ' Securities and ' 4 - 1 . )....'r a non of out Ethaucipat ion. :, kit the Government should he cigiposed I 1 i!ill entire Inowleigo Of the ophpoit'und Ioli: i im this most important subject; ano ';' ~ntii:ipatkin, nits , such effect, as tout jii3t `'l , l 6 iii.lr e mid hiscillothnibg, we lec-1 at our ', ~ '!:.:l.ire,,, i that Wt: consider this t,tnest‘fnv Igeinvots and Securitics,'"to I n :re been 6-et the &visions of ourTrelates ' and that we enactment of a law which 'sllould . gire its irporatrd with.Vetp, orArrangeruents.and lat Law, or Law of Pcrsecution, and such omilgiited in Ireland, would-be aely not z:;ildtioit nod irril',,tion of men's minds, the safe; y find SLaVation of the Ealr''te." for the motion of the Right Hon. vear, 'he should Live been Most e I lon. ( iehtleman on the floor, to Tortnnity of his :;nieu agiiinst the motion. Even if be titnents favouratile to-the admis- ' tholie Claims, lir, should oppose , 00. It would be inimical to their fito. this Committee now, whet. so it of public feeling Was raised , their own intettipcuince, and the 1 Of atinirs. They hitd notch bet-. feelings of the I:?rotestants were !(I, inn i till the Catholics themselves tetlect and to retract front thew oils. if the hatter was pressed *it inight not be so favourable as tad in that even they would have ) eracitletl' to their existing coin 'eir future applications . t hey would dust is decision; instead of , c . all= w, upon their claims. T Ai he ght 'ho brought forward 'the `tno i I .ng occasions been accused of n' p, t ' ,:a .;) ~:tlie. riali j - but at this time be 14 (Ittermined to avoid that charge. He 1,. ' ii4ortnetil hem of tile I ine of comittet he 1 1 , ' ,! t , lie ul t t''' L o pursue, and su g g e ste..la pla'n, e 'ist that could be : - .,aid AV;il':, that . ::t 4et'il anfl undeEn'ed as 'could i vell 11( ' • • lie had told them, that it wotild go all di.st-intions, and confer the ai.jiiiY '.l3llll,of.tviratever telif. , :tons persuasion, erYtli gltitV except t:ie Crawil:Tllls I ' 'itiiS Wi lielt be iltiti once deAT,n:kted by the g rea tlyrati).nei . t " '''t t - 'hen be was. ~ . , pa ~ ,Es I VI, . , ~ - ; SiCill'it.:E',S,, he ball lintit t:6, , i ),• a pos e , .1: tett oe Inlaid oat h v the (.10111init tee. Itt what the;l, edictith pre.seut: proposffer . wilic h II , : hat.l made on the '.:: !tit a of l:di last , Ind witi c h 1% iti rejected • her Parli:inient .? fiQiired to be no ilitference either in new 'l `", s s ti time, or ehange.of circumstan- I I " a " n oli . . Friend of his (:ilv. Yorke) !ct.t.dtkelile;.. elaa,.leS in the Bill of Rights to lllie.attglit Tron. Cievtletnan, with an air ~,,j,' haft ill 'Atik ' ed hint for* reminding him ," 1, w tlicli he inicntied to recognise and , 1 . 1 1 •the preanible ' to his own. Bot they I no clause in a modern Bill to recognise olestant tellgi of, th e E on to be ilie Established mpire—thev wanted their statute 0 he eneinnbered with ~,, b . t , : h , tes or b)* that-Bill as ~ J3ill of iiig.lits l : ), wide the (,_itorgelll. commonly called ‘c Grattairs rl ey tvanted,no stiel! .thiwy. ti.t that - th !..yy e . it I.'rt;teq:in s as these t o t Peop , le hy a we r Protestant Government, ill every of the state. But the ...Protestants, •e called sectaries. The Protestants: , petitioning for th e ascendancy ot what sect (14F :they belong ? . ''l'o the lictormcd Religion as by laW, esta-,',:. it it really appeared: as if. the iPro - ' to be iiiinnmneil to vindicate them - proi2essing 'the establiShed religion Ot > and us if the Constittition was about 'I I'l conitsel tit the liar of the 11""se, ,/.n, dctenee. - The Cointhittee w ' , lid' ' s 44-4 ,-'chef;, ins;tead of a. Committee on the a (~t lt.qi" l l, might with rnOre propriety be 4t i i'll ' n ittee to revise and alter the British 1 1; 0 „ i l l ii •' It Wits really too much to expect .I,,i c i"ls . e, shOuld go inta . the . (..oniti „.. iit ., tee it .. .I. ° ''' ;rounds, let the Right 1. - lon. ti'• lit ~ .I;.}tily what were the anoint:tiles he Wislie.t ;; let him point out to what p;'..: , ts of lerri l- th 4Y ltut he wished to apply a remedy, -c I -louse would be enabled to jntige ~ i c ti :: i it ttlie course it ought to purs . ne.' Th, , e . it , , '"roed Pentit:man opPOstre Pie • l e ' "'ld been highly Conipiimented " for his sPeeeh on this question, and certaiolY -hi gly than that display of eloqueitee lo II . t i 4 , tae se expr..essions of 'll'.l'.ratiun "' eat. there was one complime%t, above 4 ' W hiClt had not been he... , .towed upon 'that he was now happii to. Lave all 0p..., of paying to his sincerity. They knew sl ut was due to' this virtue, a:id - what an ' ! 'li glit have been Jo the siAer country had 'ill ing to dispense with it. 'They knew ire-etninerwe he "Might have attained, have consented to mdvocate thc.ie 'lit h teurities for the Protestant esta- They knew what.procesSions . he might .. e oming to li,iin . , and .whitt answers he hart o pportunities of returning.. He. ,'''e slurred NV itil the Bishop of Norwioh ~ , , ," °. tirt.4 of the Black .Abbey; an:l ILive., '2...P;4,1t. where these toasts welt: given ;11 .11i4gton i and may the victories of ,10;:etele to teelire their own degradation." ~ ,411‘1,`,','14,et, mid the .Liberty of the Ines in le l t hail been sai'd.. 0)31 it i.t a; hard 'Per a; ", disc' 14 "illd suffer by the violent and 11,iet t.anolitet, of some agitators among , of ~..eithe , cnina,prirt, of the body clistip 41,„):,w`i'll proceedings of these intemperate lot t,,„i t r dld they lilt protest against them; the.,,, p.ii,,,give die m their eolmtenititei: ? Why , ‘,,Jtvenut,,.!'p urine train enullt 'us they klid in tank at "...' Not)tetneli and Gel: denten of the lvt,lvr..td re,:peetability took this- steplwhich '• tlitt'.! rt, ". 4l :P" - ce(lcot 100 the present period, zit() ..' v '"ii hill .1 , ..,.... • - pt it 1 t ~, .S ,R.iit. eatiSe tomultice them "'ll tile v. , "1 1-4f:ember 479 1 theyliad'secednd th 191 :it k , . , * it . 10ur,,, di ty, and apprtatched the Timme 'a iv I 'fliti l oyal, hut by no means Ude 'au it; s, in evhicli they stated in a.13e.n..._ .. , ........- t: [ at Pt p„, grattr i d r ~ • , • , t 4 wi1 , t ' . 01 1 ,.. , to .1( I .:- I hbrllter etinettiSifMS, We, (to li hue', re._ i 11,1 -)ti t I l'', !11cc-J,stirt: 01 extent pe i should be star:,;({, Mitt leave, . the same to the‘veivinm and discretion ' (the co'ntiding their liner;ility and benevolence, that it will be as extensivr as . tbe-: circumstances of the times and the ,gcnc;:al wel fare of the' Einpire in their cOnsi , .lciatlon; render prudent and expedient. !.; "'I In firmly attached to rim- most fy;raci‘nis Soyereign, and ; the CO,llStitiltiOn of the kingd . ina,. '•atui. anxiously to . proniote, and subjection to the Lk ws, irewill itudionsly avoid all. measures can .either directly or , indirectly tend to disturb or impede toe . s . ,l7ne, • and will rely on the wisdom and benevolence of the Legislature as the source from whic:b we sire to obtain a! further relaNatiou. of the 'above mentioLed laws." • This address was. signeci by Lord Fingal, Lot GormantoWn, Lord Keninare, Troy, and Sir Gould, and the'dill'erente of “miltict in the pre ' sent day presented a view of things not very fa vOurable to the disposition Of the 'Catholics. It would,.to 1115 opinion, have hum more bocoming to act in a similar way !lOW, all.cl come forward \vitt) a ,imilar Petition, than to seem• to sanction princinlL-s the very reverse, of therm descrilQd the rule of their actions... With, respect to .the Bill,the Right Honourable Gentleman had spoken of, he hoped some one more able than he was would point out its defects, and answer the arguments on,which it was attempted Co be found ed.` On the face of it, it appeared to hha tii• be very capable of refutation. It went to give , the • Catholics access to both [louses of Pirliatnent . ,repeal the Test Act,' and tee ntalt.e tninv 060 ra dical changes in the Constitution. i.ut he could not conceive upon whitt principle of fair rea- ' sorting the Catholic's were to be: admitted to ~ both Houses, of Parliament, and yet be•eN.cl ttled. front the Throne. Would the Right EfOn.(.3eri-• Ileman have the Crown remain Protestant and that Its Servants should be CathOlieS ? Would he diave an irresponsible Protestant King, %Vali re- - sponsible Catholic wicket's Would he allow a Ca► - tholic to be, Lord Chancellor, 41)(1 so C:ltholic Keeper of a' Protestant Kfit'i , :s 'con sciy.x.! Would he allow a . CaIIOHC 10 be LordLiet:t'lfirolt of RIO to ' have the • dispov.l . 01 all ' .. the ee:‘.lesiostical henefiQes , ita that .Cotintry. Bert it was said the King need not, ,appoint Catholics to thet” °nines: To' ~this he answered, that he, would. not throw . this 4.)blogny:,tip . on the Throne, .but retain the es.clu -sice„prntilege,', where it vas better placed, in the the • - law. But th'creVILIC9 , C , upon , which this itdinis'ion to the I- Other indk!rs of the ,State was cvliL.;ly - was not equally cal)le to the. adini:-:sion,pf,Catholic3 to the Throne. The Right Eon. Oentlernall who presented the Petitions "from the Catholics 01: Engbind, in , his eloquent address, had mentioned thc.,e Pe- titioners the descendants of those who con= Tarred at e,resj;v, and at Agincourt. But who commanded at Cressy and Agincourt ? Protes tants ! Catholic : and this this ar 7 gtunent went so far 11 1 ; to prove the eligibility of (..lotholics to the sovereign power as tfi other high , offices of state. Could it be said ; tlu Catholit Like Y.6lward the Third was unfit ..for, the throne ? Could it be said, that he who enacted that Parlia ment should sit every year, and prohibited :he ad 'Assiut, of rescripts from the l'ope, was a lc:To:larch Rot attrephed to 'liberty :Ind intlepentleuce? - - , —Mit, • did not 'all these arguments go to, prove the prin.. dole. that the Protestant throne, as .well as both 'louses of Parliament,: shonid be opened to - the Catholics ? wits far fro)), s a ppwiing that the, Rout vo CathOlies tint not fe:.,l this eNclosiotl troin the higher Offil . esrof the state, It certainly must appear hard to thole who entered the lot tery of life. to he delairred . (f the liiher "Vhey were not ,however, eY:posefl' to•these 'Ori cations 'on account o f of their reli',.;ions . bat of their political opinions. They would not take the oatitS prescribed by the Constitution', they -could not therefore coin lain if they were` ruit'lulmittell to all its . benetits. Gen tlemen On'the other side, Inch referred to the case of Canada, but that case did not apply ; for in C, Tada the King had the ' nondnation of ,the . , Bishop, 'The case . Of Russia also had been quoted, but that also did not apply, for the Panikess Cathe-, rioe when she appointed a Roman Catholic Bisnop c7tressly exclufted the interference of the Pope; -In tact, no Government in Europe, whi.!ther or despotic,' wottlA grant such Ptiyileges ns were now demanded by 'the Catholics.. He couLL net assent to sp. doctrine that because much h:.,rl Wen grantel t7the Catholics,, that thereiore they acre .entitled to more. if Parliament i vVent further it wouhi trench upon the phiciples of the Revolu tion. The grant of the elective franchise did not interfere with the principlekestablished at the Re, volution,..for the def.tive franchise was not taken away from theta till 17'27.. The grant;of the live It anelike to the Catholics, whi:ll he,did tiot object to, vias'of the ill:most iruport.zuce to them. If they had it Catholic l.keproentati ft!V, Watt..T. ,ford, for insoinee, could they have a ;hove ze,,lous or indcfatigkOle advocate thart - the , flou r liftro'net ? (6'ir J. Ner;ourA), orlf they It],i ri .Ca tholic 'Representative fur Tipperary, could they have a louder advdeate ;than the lion. General ? (Mathew). He thatlked the Hon. Genet al. by the way, for thecomp;iment, thhn which nothin.' g could be <t greater; which paid, by stying, they had . feir every thing done by them his unqua lified disapprobation. He contended that :the Irish Prelates still adhered to their original doc trines retative to the:spiritual p(P.Vers of the Pope', and,withont desiring to Air up the Slightest tint lnosity, as he dared to say, .there were faults on both sides; • read the following passage. front .the coptinuation of, Hurne'S iiistory of lingland, to '4uppoyt of his opinion.: It re.'trs to the year 6',•;9, in the reign of Wiliam itnd 'Mary. ", The Revennes.of llishOpriclis and Benefices were chiefly etnployed in the Inaint.mance of the Ito:nisi) Bishops anthPriests, who grew so, just)• lent under this indulgence; that in ,sevetal . places they ten•cibly '.seized the Peotestant Churcifes, When , :omplaint was Made of this outrage,. the. King promised to dojustiee to 00: iPjurtdi and iii sonlc places actually ordered the". Churches to he re'loretl; hut the Popish Clergy refused to coin ply With .this orter, anti allegiog„ ~u nit itt spi rituals they tlWCtl'Obgdienct to stocorthiy pay.rer but thp.Holy.tiee, and james futtodliiinse:f unable to protect his Protestant subjectsitgainst a power bady, Which, lie dnrst- no!_,:distablige,:r- 7 -Ought, uot. th e Itiihprelateb::tbetk) to west - in 5Yn00.., and disci:Ain this principle.? o,igla they not to deliite what 'they iiii4eestoOd by the pit ttnitl pol,fr;•er of the POp.e, aud not leax'e it :it, ii: ttinixed witir fel:mot-Ai intlioritv, as stateil by (we believe tLat it was i:u . posiiLle, 'an4 ; it mit:sire:l to point out the boundaries of ? tit tiie .oast for their rate:K . :on, tip,-, 1 / 4 1..-I,olk he NVOttlil treSir".ss no longer, b!,:t ia r e .,,,,l y * ) g, t o t yle othvr . av; ; ;tuntnt :tt (Jowl. Tile :-Toooln - able iMover put the Veto Out Of the titt:stton ; ---ana why Iv o !! !..,1 lie i?tit the Veto oat of tile ? lately that it fo - l.aied CS Cl4tiiil pat. of their rtn , ! t:-'it they would, by ith ine:nis give ii. u;). 17:;11, fool. o f th e l l • ;krt:lll4!,;iops of their Wert! 11';4illg tO Coll':C ; ie this point ; Wink. t l O.. Catholk. , Bo'dy noc.v tteclaccit th,:y could not -ror eed=:: to any alteration lit the "ptc..sent suite of the 1-lead of 0.1:!;i . Ile read ankt connuented upon their I't'.-soluz::Ons oil thi , , subect. " Itesithse: l , Tlvit ,ve !iv:se helr,i..vriVi , ;.:t7erie tVit pcissoq 't I arc ;.te:L.•34..h t 1 i!c!11 t••.: friel: - ! - ; of the Lind ..,s; t'y th;:'porpo;, ',•.. : ; ?re.- . ..• , ••• • t• • tl•;csir Cntn.)lic P.e.llOw •:• i•.••• ssiti.ln of ^ Ell'i:iSclOUt f 1:..• .; , („;;Jt - seiicl ~worn ta,i, i ; • ,:elirion and their nri‘ie, by a .1 to reu•t,. impco:es on, Cs - tLul the lIalt.; or the Cat;4... , 11 , ;, welt. u$ the But if the tenets and principics ',Were hu puted 'to the (...:r.tbolies s=ere such they really 1 1 . id 'not eater u,- surely it wonlci be better for their preintes to conic for4vard and,„stale distineTly. what their tenets were, than to appeal to the opi .niou of foreign universities. If they do not pro-' fess doctrines. attributed to thetn, wh do not they pabli'cly and tinequ.i...iocally disclaim 'them Why will they,not deftne . the extent of the ritual - pir.ver,.of the Pope, if toe opinions enter tained by the Vrotestauts upon thal .. .subject ark errOileo, I Tide really did not understand the dis,- tinction that had IJeen made about legislating . fOr the Catholics, hat pot treating with them., were they to legislate for tlwra. The Catholics., lilt:} said that they ‘vould hot.gs.sitt the Veil, he- Cause it Was contrary to their rchgioa, though. in 1799, .tiny thought it • toite reasonable,. 'k heir objection to domestic noun n t`was quite ' as ,:trong as to the Vcr,o, couhi H ot sec, tltcre 'fort.•, lior it wouhl be possible to leg' :late for ti 'Catholics any beneficial (jeer. They had declare ',`that the'present state of the head of the .Church they could not assent to any-chang e s; would it not then be better to wait till they saw they conid prop.ose it measure to which the rope would agree, since the Catholics declared they would come.to' no adjusttncnt xvithout - his sane tiOn, which sa ct io n could not non- be obtained . ; and whatever they (Ili might hereafter be refused by him. It was useless to dipicuss or go into the till they, could come to a definite arrang meat, without which the people of this country would not he' satisfied with the proposition of, tire you. Gentlenian. I\lr..WAnn thought; that argil:nen:3 in favour of the claims Of the /lonian Catholics were ren dered; in a .4.reitt inea4itre, ; for they had been so fregtientle advanced, and feequent,l% replied to, that wl.en I.4)4:at:A, titer bac; iatt , :nir faiiettta - inak . e much itnpr,•istory on: - tIrn't - ^ z iersortf- N vi t o . wee the most streitnotts oppv.,;et•S!of con- • IV . ltat wasthe sittiati,o; of t?t.;,ttatholtes in,179;3./ Atrthat time their itetition was reketed as absttril.%` The Change wttieh taken -pl•tee,in the opinion t ol the public, was' shewn by it valiety of cirennitances • indeed, st) certain 'people becorte of till: illtintatC stteeiii, f tits Ctabolies, thsit it was not asheil'when the question (vas to be carried, but how 'Ong it :.vottltl..be delayed ? Their Ilf2eil for :Mule time re.tisted, .I.)A it was 1:111)05Silik (10t to see dee ; inettntsing tltioopu -I,,ricy o 1 1h tneusttre. to he believed tiPtt ft measure, in taVOlir of which the ,opiu:ons of' Fox, of.: P .. ;tt, v7c - ..e 41 ngree3 ; a, 1Z1047 sure Which.. Had been'sanctioded.hy the former Intrliarneut. - should at that time he the subject of debate / Tile. splendour .of. the. list of n . l.u.es of: those who -tvere fetvoltrable tea the measttle, was so •,;rat, that the persons who opposed it were obhgeci eiti:vr to Wave ail authority, or to rel9s solei7 on Cneir owl; jntigment. There seerne.i tp b little .reason to doubt that a rael..ittre by tl)e opiniOtis of wise nien, however opposite 'to tlte'i)'Njudilt's 'of the vulgar, would lialtity he carried. The final adoption of the niclinire could only be prevented ivy' sprat: very e:c_raortiinary cause. He then alluded to, the :•einatits. at some Ilormitral)le 'Member, . Said that the anthority of Mr. Pitt be quoted ill • support of that meatowe., bef:ause it had up "p eared ' not only front his' conduct, - but also from that 4i Tat !.'2,tattsinan having said to SOM3 friend, whet') talking. of the cluims,,of the Catho. lies, th:lt be (MO. Pitt) had nis settled plan on the sohject. As to' What related to the ; conduct of it Pitt, .it.trus to he . considetted that the t•tate the qee , >Oon Suring hid (Mr. Pitt's)‘ time wai.such !Jilt he . bad on opporttinity. of bringing it before Parliament. And with. regard to What Mr. Pitt Ind said, it was nccessnq to retollect that it could ' Ise co'visidered only as a vague saying ; 'beSides, the pin.son to whom ithad -been slid, wat3 pro. bably - not Very intim:qe ; att lest it seemed probable that a person who could tetlitsuch as say ing « a otuz to whoth 'Air. Pitt would not have ventured, or lt!ve cho3co to unbosom liitmelf no a question of much ' , merest, or • of sinih magnitude. The disposition oe the peOPle in general, 'and the spirit of tile age, r t •ere Nviiar should belooke..l to ; fort - won the one hand; men were not so wise, so true, ±0 faithful, S'o just, so upright, i the good priticiples of religion would make them, so neither on the other hand, were they . sn f:4ithle”, sQ ttnitist, so dishonest, as the exiStenee of bad principles in their rek , ;iint tdake them. Some pers'or d s. t:111:ez1 if the F.;olieessions ought' to be ni:tis:e to the annum Cathothrs of are alif they wore to cx.itetice, or to litilttf; into the worl.l oc:w set of beings F they \Vert: 111 or ; 3, ""ge 111 ' I i 3 " 3 ' who' were NO the lirst i one to be railed toi-,11 into Wit:tt ought to I clone to the Rowan Catholics -of irclana to - creaie the powk.r whielu the:: unit - titis, in Order: to 'ilirninisll the dis:content which existed among them on itccount of the Wrniteti i 3 - tukc of the power Ivbich they hail, The quautity. of power whittio it wont(' ht ! necessary to give them in order to make them-contented, y:oulif . lit-0h441y very 4niall, .it Was 'only retithir-ed mit into Parliament-a fels of them 'as Mentberity and to 'make a very liirited A - loather, of Sheriffs, .;3y, doing sn , ,,the Constitution; instead of beimg 11. 7 dangered, ‘v , :ttilil be strengthened lty the accession- ' • .of the good.inelhNtions and the abilities of these' n::!tr. They Irotdd i ii'tt.lhetl, be Catholics, in poy.'er,. hot' - then ,thev oultt be less,interiscly Piy conced'uig those pohits whicu :0 to t'oern. f oli Litat i.ozild tz:1114 anxious .. the r.:hitc made more 7 ,0 .4 I .!tin'e asefal and mare may crrn3' exiited inthcit: rel;t;ion; won!,; fp..! (I:trgirous; hecawse they Nott4d la enlightened minds. ' 7• ikl;' ;Li V;111Ch ' : • CadlOrlC (o. rise'hi the . illeonshtent with tl:a bigotry • : reliittn.• It 5.1)011.: n . • ' • ma,:h irt:lmid had 'ci'i;l;.!, and 11:)-: • she oo.pw.ite. 1.? whether the concession. \va.; • when the Government of li.!, • state in SVllich the .;" NV:V3 iheonvenieut ; liow at'ty • in this ropect-amongst np.ny of their el:tints would prodneedisappointm , ,!!::, disappointment would causediscontootand A Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Yeele) had said, if the o' n Catholics are„aillowed to hare offices, why exclude thern from the' throrte....' .'reason was, becuuse it coald .not be expedient."' ''The throne could . not be dit.idthl ; it- wit feces airy-that it it shoall be either decidedly Ppotestalt.. . orfdecidedh - C,ltholie. If .it la-as tc.fa - cttia;nt , nt_3l and ncCe-rsztry principle, that hit the of the ifoti•-• shotrd ba,'eitber exrlosi vcly Prot:s.t. tot, or exeluSiv,elv Catholic,. then, they would :he alt Protestant of coor.t: ; hot it' was sale anti expedient, it was tuaquestit-;nably bettor to,have, both. • . Mr. Ca . ..rnv stoke a Few i..vOrti6 so low. a tone, as not to be in the., Gallery. ....Mr. thanvlit. that' it tvt%tild be certainly. duagerous to 12-rant ~.the.cone.:ssitths required..by the Roman CatholicS, especially while the Pope p0',;5....:-.seci.pow.,:r -over the ..Rislions,, Bishops.nycr, the Clergy, and Clergy• over the people.. This was not a religions PoWer, it ;vas ono whicii.exteottw.' ed to all their internal anti domestic 'concerns t and of course; that power which, in a politica sense, was of alVothers,the most dangerous. ,Che laws 'exercised' by these powers we. e ,independent . of the law 'of the hind. It wotild not he '; , ife iii , grant powers to theyßoman Catholics NVitilo , t Se 7. - g:uard against_ these dangers., That they Were .: an gers, b e was prevented the*iieeessityof ing, us that had been allw,ved bi all parties. it had been. said, that the Petitions presented to the •Ilonse did not speak the sense of the people..--.. 4 (Phis he denied. They were. coached in langti..ge breathed only forbear:nice and, tolerw, and• Which did honour. to the hearts and to 1;; understandings of ..those from whom I. cine. T Ullft they spoke the . sense of the gre , J.- of the Protestants 111.14i:cat B.`-itain anti,ire; It sayonryd .of thin bigotry, which was_ i ~1 fe ti n to that tl:e t • ,• "prtitions 7 l6the had btie faipi.oper motives. It. had been C.; Bb,ly would be disgtr . -.'.:, if i shouU its doors againt. their . denial that ilia House, by Vet'lling _Co:oni:ttce, shut. the - .!' clai:1;. If he thOu ,, itt that a tin al ~4 the tvotild the :.- Mitice, be. would be the. lifit r, t for it. ai:t.:r straw . / 1 t: , .g the t . .:omatiztee n'otinih!.; won:c! he se , : • and matters woao. be at b,)'l- 7 -worse A ot. eib::it was there t is" r.;!-..•.Tit 7;7. a' a fa tare tint.', from Inovio 911 toe tubktct, .Noci tuns ti: .ii' =, i wait, out end. - When the sense oft' their clo7 stituents expres , ,:ett to 3;, on the they: shotild not, by .42ct..ng the prayer ,co t!lo,e 'petition`', shew themselves undeserving ei that which these constituents irsul so. lately pint I:: them. With respect to the aegthneot drawn the e.uthority of iVir. Pitt, li!...rAtter tali dispose.t. always to quote his nu.:Ac Us A aga!nst'such a Measure. I.);tt's'dis inclinatiba to listen to sited deutatili vs.3 - s not rested - optm a mere coma* , iltions r;;e el , what he Siiipoteti to he of his 5pv.,:.1!,-.1, t was fountied.tipon the yt:herlii aversion wiiit:tt 'oe IMeW the country ent%rtain , .:.ti.to the repeal the laws itfiecting the Renault Cltholic3. %Vat; colt viuce4, that by going )tern)the Coinnt.titce, th,ty would outs keep the pe.hiie mold ta st it tt; of . ht rassing aii,l that tne hopes of the C.t thttlics would t.hel•eb7 be oniy ett cited' to no pur pose. I ' _ Pate explained. There was, be saii, inellincondurn flop.) hill in the. Chtele , .. - TetAry'3 Oti t iee, which she..yed th:lt he c.ispressed the opinion be betord. An del to. Ityr)slt said; b had not seen the. memo rankini 'lLl:led to. • IMIAII9ti supported the - motiOtt. He defend , . ,ed,witb much wartitth, the condttpt „ ) f, O l e Bi* o p of T...orwieh, wh bid been alluded to in the,eomr,A4.: of the Debate. 3.'he Petitions , pretwilted shanid his ho've such influence us to pi'leVelit ti.etn 'from going-into the entinnittee: . .if ik'ny coo; euic tiCe ‘‘'ere apilrehentled from n Cottunttive Pf the U - i.ole :. they in Select Cont nutteo.,. obtain-all ;well ittforinntiott as the sithj.,et l'Ctttlrt!ti. explained. . sai‘l, be could' not fru. hOte tl.i; . 01)orinii:t. , or exyrushing. svoi tit - ver,„' filipo.t ant s'nbiAxt iLro . -se. ,hOni.l as o!).ieivnt;olis Ii( hiti! to Avot4it peinlit h to Lic-; ineit hour, V•:l:.!e;'7e,l !hilt litany. tl:e topic 3 t, is ur;tott:'.l-A, Cvcil by the , :ti:2 'viii?LVIVOCAe3 for .11‘; Wazi "1'1(1 tlrtt no 11111111tati0:1 upon the tonne of that it iim 4 : PAns;Tions s beltini Lim c•tpt:l'..i' 21. n 1)-4 feel,gratift.l from the Lllat hid been bestowetrupon eii.- Anent si2eeli upon II ir..nut;:r.i.:Lat. , k , . ~.int. ow, ,„„,,,I, , r ,... nt . oar ri'ghtl, I 09 il goteltt.,'' t be 5i,..? wo ::' ;Putt, lien fine, li.t., ..4 , Without afll 1 ,i , ODP .. 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