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~_ • tidos psepard.far tin! Ceitalidittad fund, they wait! be. In woe 'masers. obviated by the two cbscb the Parliament lind upon ' that fund already. Tithisteangenelit would show plainly in what de gree the Wpm. of the country Would meet its es ; - and My thing of ,i nc onvenience that Atilt opposed to sacs , wo4d•ls, of course. di Wars the gals eotild sided upon. Miami liaseitstien was then agreed to. The antasii tba effect of which was, ritilain of the receipts al, ihs.Lalteree sif the pewee of the year 1107, wnsi=i ow tha deb af Jamaryllos, shpuld he as part of the receipts of the latter ' was was also agreed to. The third gave the Leeds of the Treasury power lifinset that melt stms should Iss_spplied to the aids .a/ the pm 150 n. without nay further grass from realist/NA Agreed to. The fartb was, That the aecontsu Amid he gees ill within thitty days after the dth of Jan. I nod. me be laid simally Won Parliament. Agreed The fifth Imolai= was, That dm debts on those hada be laid assually before Parliament. Agreed .to. The shah was a Revelation, That it would be a oraltidtrable main to the public that the annual duty upon Mak sod gaga should 'be rendered per mullet, sad ,carried to the mama modace of the Commode:NJ _Wand, if not totheadee appropriated. Mt, ALL& vim apptahmairee that this yerruld be amLinnovatien on the constitutionals/ANN of the Mena Of COMOIVXM T h e amain": fumy, and se. meal others., were of the same arsaiptithie but they. wan innrationst and lmt some ; inch a biia brought in with to Iri s : molity, aid avow-the cl ose. °Elbe Session. Mr. HUgiN would Imam to be thought ..04.,,c,...,au* by surprise, deo It was for tbs 1. ~, however , of the amen spprehembrd. for it . se t any member from memising his Of objealog to my Out Oche supplies. and Ilia se es checks upon them that subsisted be ... Ti e lemon why ha delayed these resolutions Etimitbe would net tabu* them till he haw `'' a !mold be the mama of the surpass of the dit,4l hut& , Lonln. PIT tYthought that as the motion had , E h W. Ow beet method would be to giro t. r a il biZatilread tb• mristi a ills: lOU admitted. that the Hen. Geatlenma had a right to 04. a to it if ho thought proper rbut he emeraid. !bet it was no deagerout innovation, ge it o 4 the r dm r- - with- S ' SON consented; *Aimee the Medan. , The 7th Resolution was, That is the disposities pa . per of the year, As expeoces *leach charge should be pot separately and specifically, and closed on the . 6th of January each mu., : Mr. PAUL thoeet, that as there was so urgent _ socessit staled foe these saw regslatioes, the House eisould be allowed *Seism time to consider, before Twere called opt* to.adopt them. he SMILER, ressiodul the Noose, that no re solution pot upon Asir Jonroals could be supposed to bare the fares of a law. Ms. ZAZILR wished to know if it was the inten tion tithe Hoo. Gentleman to propose any measure grounded on the reselatioas, is the present year t , • Ide. HUSICISSON auswated in the negative ;'1 spelt width the nese* wee speed to. PRIASCIAL Wt4alliiiii. Mr. JOHNSTON/ mid, that he held is 1 • . band a paper, repeoesodog the state of the of this cosau7, Wish be was in the habit of „ atittieg fee the /est two years. As the receiving . it, is tbe reuse star. was merely smatter of foetid he Al set eoppeee ay series was necessary. J 1. The MAKER observel. that such a i don lath the ask tit notice was not ' '• dent. : • Mr. JOHNSTONE then moved. Jr•jeross, hhi first resolution, " that the debt of tbe country w 567,213,31511." • the debate upon which was a . . • ' joussed to Frid ay lest. SUPPLIES. The Hesse having resolved itself into a mitts, of Sopple• Lord H. PETTY proposed a vote of `2,380 1. the stationary of both Houses of Pasha:sent. INCREASE Or MILITARY PAY. The SECRETARY at WAR said, be eater tained very little doubt of what he bad now to pro _ pose to the Hasse being unanimously agreed to. l. Several years had elapsed since any increase was , made la the pay of Officers ; and every one knew o a what ma addition there was si n c e i n th e p r i ces of all modeles of consumption 4 during which t ime, the peensering patience with which the o ffi cers of infony.bod waited for As liberality of Par t 14 1 011114 in* iii the highest degree, laudable, : and showed them to be aentted b y much ' nobler motives thaw those of emolument or gain. As things 'toed at present, tise pa y . wm iodic. • •• • • . ~ t . et out, njaLnd the mode of ate accounts* with- t. e s th eir 2110011 t. M*ANUS preressed, that he did sot well misiersteml diem mookadons. He suggested whs- . tiber would act be to move tii previous" whim* tnealif Witivithiat os the . to be taloa leo einitilkiesdolt at a more Hs bad a ileums so say measure wol: mks away the cheeks sow io the • Ueda of that Ilse" tlf Insides it emessary to an stud& ?sa i lor* after a ressertable interval.whieh ~ iiscessit would sot mist s if tbe , toes were made 11= y STAILD was also a friend to the Home Imegiog is its owe bands all its present cheeks ea the ,pelwr of the Crows. Anionic these was that of mums the taxes aurtually. He did net apprehend sal sPreOvltioly tfliereace between the Crown. and tie Patliempat bet as such &arena bad arises Wore, tber _might possibly arise again I for which mew that He* *old sot pan with seek checks as remeiestlis it. heads at Mr. HUSKISSON r= give the Crows uo power whatever weer the public .as the sup- Pli rfr a l;P b aC e I v V et = g ar wca itvs rerse being Fre. . pared to say; thit mseletien etas smObjeibion- *blo t in a eettaksitimel point of view. He thought. =alum,* lowymmusweet. was toe Orions a thing so be Amu * sake of rtgalatiott. After a few *se obeervatioas, Ur. HUMUS- _ __. • 1 putably inaduplate to the nature of the service. The house would, however, observe, that: in the hearse atePleall e ieset neer proposed. a view to public I ¢C 4401 4 wati a leading feature. It was rant, as erroneously .ripresented, a general increase of pay throughbut the army, but confined to certain ranks, where it was absolutely necessary, and where the :weal pay was, in the present state of things, insufficient to enable these officers to maintain the character of Gentlemen. Though the respea at- i cached to that profession was founded on much uo- bier and more worthy principles than money could create; yet, every one must know, that, in the esti- Minion of the world, money was necessary to sup port the rank of gentlemen. What he had to sub- mit, was divided into three classes : —lst, An in crease of pay to certain officers of infantry, and pri. yaws, after having served a certain number of years; 2dly, An additional allowance to Chelsea; and, Sri'''. An increase of pension to the widows of Officers I I the particulars of which he should not go int o, as ,1 the papers were printed, and in the hands of every Gentleman. He must not, however, omit to men.. tion, that there was an addition of 3s. a day, to such Officers as may occasionally have the com. • mend of regiments in the absence of their Colonels ; Is as Majors, and sometimes even Captains.— 's wig thought necessary, to enable them to sup their temporary rank. A provision of 2s. a was also made for such Captains as should ob tha rank of Brevet Majors, which seldom hap in less than ten years service . and a smaller 'lien for Lieutenants, after seven years service. then moved. for all these purposes, for the sum 161,7001. Sir A. WELLESLEY asked, whether these wastes werwto extend to O ffi cers of the Guards, use pay was at present so very small, though they anextraprdinery price for their commiuions ? Mr. WINDH AM replied , that it was desirable follow the principle on which the Rill wax folind- The Hon. Gentleman seemed to go upon the erroneotts popular opinion, that any augmentation 'should Ike directed to the lower ranks only, so as to draw tholes nearer to the high i but that was a false . application of the principle. If it was aridly true. that officers could not live upon the pay tney al ready receive. the consequence Must be, that we 'should have po *Seers ; and yet it so happened, that the estimate were generally full, though, is ' ems, the cotvinsissions were bought at the eagsl d prim. Gentlemen who mitered into the eseatele, 0011Ondly besought in aide(' their support. Mk :Melee foetal,* de the assistance of their fried& Tice gaff of this was to bring a hence sad alone desirable -set of officers, inflamed wish a million spirit. into the army. A young man may 1 1 0:4 0 7erelffilit to submit to great privations, and against them for a certain number of years. depending va• his military spirit for being pro. mated to a higher rank. Lood•DIE BLAQUIERL said, he wished die same general satisfadion sopremill tit an intestate ado* to the pay of Officers al sun asanifested'oa that allotted to non-eommiseitheei Officers and Pri vates. But all that a Lieutininst•Colonel would get by this was Is. Id. a days sad an Ensign only 3d. which was IS mere trifle tie Amble them to support their rank in society. The addition to Captains and Field Officers would not repay the Property Tat laid upon them this year, which would amount' to *IL upon Mi.*, pay of a Lieutenant -Celonel. 1 • The SECRETARY at WAR said, he omitted to . the allowance to be made to Lieutenant-Coke. • owl reAl4lolcf pi of 131. 191. a year for forage . As •to lhe Officers 4 the Guards, be oh. - ' ' ed , tiset they were gesierally men of private *Masa. lisey had alas Ai advantage of superW ta, i which, though strautimes produftive of envy la others, they very welfahrierved, by their admire. isle wads& - when brought into the field. The only !addition made to their pay was, that their Field. ,Officers Mold be allowed forage money. - Earl TEMPLE wished to know whether dies. Lallowaness were meant to extend to Militia Officers.* 1 The SECRETARY at WAR said, It was not 1-to go beyond the subaherns. As to the officereti ,higher rank, their situation did not require it, as they Must necessarily be men of Imam'. fir A. WELLESLEY observed, that the supe rior rank of the guards made no addition to their rate of pay. Mr. WINDHAM said, that if the Government could dad officers to serve without pay. it mold .ber t ttMOsewry to give any ; but though many would, no doubt, be stealous to serve even 'Pon, that condition, yet, not only pay, but other 1 iadaceneeeb Aso, mnit be offered in the present state of things. If the Guards had higher rank than others, that of itself was no small boon; but it would be too much, if that rank should give them, at the same time, a claim to further pay. Mr. FRANCIS said. if the intention of this measure was to return to some ranks of officers what the Property Tax took from theta. it was only taking with one band. and giving with the other ; and it would have been a better and more simple method, to have exempted theta in the be ginning. Mr. - WINDHAM replied, that this provision was net mode with any reference whatever to the Pro perty TM. The SECRETARY at WAR remarked, that one of eke most considerable additions made, was that to the Captains of 361. 10s. a year. which they would continue to possess, if the Property Tag should be repealed next session. Earl TEMPLE said, he could not agree to the allowance not being extended to Captains of Mi litia. They were net all men of fortune ; for dip law admitted the qualifications to I.e dispensed with in Captains and others from the half-pay list, who were now very numerous in the Militia. The in come of many of these Gentlemen did not amount to what would be a qualification in the Mili tia. As it was ton late in the Session to remedy thip omission. he must, for the present. confine himself to entering his protest against it, and ow a future occasion take the sense of the House upon it. Mr. PERCIVAL reminded the Noble Earl, that he would have an opportunity of proposing this allowance to be made them, in the Militia Pay-Dill. which would come on this evening. Mr. WINDHANI said, that whenever the ques tion came on, he should be under the necessity of differing with his Noble leriedd. The case he men tioned of officers irons the bait pay, applied only to a part of the Militia. Captains 1 bit, however desir- ' able irmay be, dirt aleh individuals should-havo the allowance. it would necessarily produce an in vidioos distin&ion in the service; and, at all events, it could not be said of these officers, that they em barked their fortunes in the Militia service, as was done in the Line. Colonel CRAUF!YRD observed, that the dif ficulty of finding a sufficient number of qualified persons to serve in the Militia, arose from the great augmentation of their -numbers ; but when they should be reduced to their old establishment, that difficulty would cease. The motion was 'then agreed to. The SECRETARY at WAR next moved the sufh of 3,8291. 19s. 10d. for the widows of O ffi cers, L: and 50,0201. - for out.pensions of Chelsea, from the 23tb of June, 1306, to the 24th of January, 1807 ; which was agreed to, and the report ordered to be received tomorrow. Sir C. POLE moved for leave to bring in a Bill for the preservation of the public harbours it United Kingdom. Granted. MILITIA OFFICERS' PAY BILL. + 7 - Mr. Secretary WINDHAM moved "that tht House should go into a Committee on the Mil tits Officers' Pay Bill;' and, on the question that the Speaker do leave the Chair, Sir W. ELFORI) objected to the principle of the Bill, because it makes a distinction between the Army and the Militia ;—because there is a principle introduced in it, which has never been acted upon, that of a difference of paybetween these two military bodies, and the abandonment Of a principle which has always been meted on since. the first establishment of the Militia, which is, that the pay should always be the same as the Regular Army. He also objected to a measure of. such great importance being brought forward at so late a period of the Session,when those ' Members, who are Militia Officers, were most of them gone out of town I and they ought to have had an opportunity of delivering their sentiments, and voting thereon. The Bill materially altered the re lations between the Militia and the Army. which he was of opinion would create great dissatisfaction in the Militia, which was, at such a period as the pre sent, highly darterous and very impolitic. Mr YORKE said, he could by Lo means agree to the Speaker's leaving the Chair. He coincided in opinion with the lion. Baronet who had just sat down, as to the effects of this Bitr,•ll OA -ranted to be passed into- a law. This was one. of the many measures that thawed the,,way in which the bus:- sass had been coedited this deselect. This Bill ought to have been introduced weeks and numbs ago, and then itsssight h'at'e been properly' &coxed by those who were mead eineersant wlth the sublia. He complained of bringing forward, ' at so late a period of the. Session, a 'aeome which went to atter h a s E a pie that bad to intigheeri'tettled. The Right . Gentkman ogporite hketZ Idle' did ao, y &opined ir e a, part of itril naili - torY friar, the Volunteers. tead` be now touttorP4ii Meer to 43 Ma •olote by the Militia. He colts -Aeiralithifteler the'. Right Hon. Gentleman's want Jim( amities to the afghtnents which dame front Nis Aida ado House ; but, however. as an individual, the might be tours a deaf eye to what wet laid Valet 'Ms aleapitat,',yet., as obe of the -King's Ministers, isters, it Was his atuty to !lawn to the arguments 41111 d sentiments 'of independent • gelatinize°, whop 10ey- thitught It necessary for the public service to 'deliver them in that. House. . 4n:l Colonel BASTARD complained of the very telden and unexpeded manner its which this Bill ad been introduced. and, therefore. he could not `loritnt to it. He insisted, that it was a breach of ' Kith of Parliament, a hich stood pledged that 111. pat of the Militia should be the cards as that 'ft the Rlgelar Aret,T. He controded, also, that the 4 Irovision forest by Parliament, is, by this "Bill, siert - to the Crown; whereas. the Militia ought, sod was always intended by Parliament, to be a check upon the Crown. and a check on the Regular Army. It seemed to hint calculated to bring the Militia into eh repute, and to get rid of it as fast as possible. Earl I'EMPLE defended the principle of the Bill, mid said, itemed not be brought forward sooner, be• cause it was to introduce reduaions,which depended on other regulations that had only been very lately made. As the law now stands. if the Militiaman serves seven years.he would be entitled to the increase of pay given by the new regulations to the regular army, which was never in the contemplation of any one, and to avoid that, the Bill was absolutely ne ' arslarys and had been brought forward as aeon as possible. Mr. BANKER °blotted to the late period of the Session io which the Bill was brought in, and hoped it would not be conaidered a precedent. Many Gets demea who woul d wish to give their sentiments on it, are now attending their regiments, and whilst they are attending their duty to their country, seem to have deserted their duty in Parliament, by leaving it-when such a anew, was to be discussed. He thought, however, the Bill should be allowed to go into a Committee. Mr. Secretary WINDHAM differed with the Hen. Gentlemen who opposed this Bill, in the whole of their arguments There was, he said, no real affi nity between the pay of the militia, and the regular army. The regular army was, and had always been, a permanent body, though, by the Mutiny Bill, raised only for a year; the militia was not a per manent body, for, in time of peace, it was only called sot at certaid periods ; but when the Mt- Ines was first called out, it became necessary some certain pay should be fixed, and it was thought best to fix it the same AS the army.— It was well known , __ however, and universally ad mitted, that His Majesty may find it necessary to make alterations and increases in the pay of the Regular Army, which was liable to be sent to the most unhealthy climates, and most distant parts (4 the world ; but the Militia, whose services are only required at home, had no right to exped the same ; these was another material distindion, the Officers of the Army are intitkd to half-pay, the Militia are not.----He did not therefore suppose he was making any innovation, or that Any G en tl eman could have the smallest objediun to the Bill note before the House. Mr, YORKE eiplaised. Mr. PY:R.C.I VAL insisted. that this Bill would be a breach of the faith of Parliament, pledged to the Militia s that their , pay should be the tame as that of the Regular Army; he should, therefore, oppose the Speaker leaving the chair. Mr. GILES contended, that the Militia raised by ballot, was a to mpahory force, and could he no compete with it, so of course no , could be pledged, and of cour , e no faith could broken.—He would, therefore, vote for the Speaker leaving the chair. Colonel BASTARD and Mr. PERCIV. plained. Lord DE BL AOUI Ell E said, he was decidedly adverse to the Bill, as he thought it went to dis grace a great military body, and to create an odious distinaion between the Militia and the Itegular Army. Mr. O'HARA objected to the principle measure. Sir W. LEMON also expressed his disapprobae thin of it, and thought that it would occasion great jealousy between the different branches of the tat y service. Mr. ELLISON said, it had been his misfortune, wishing, as he did, to give his support to the Minis ters, to feel himself under the necessity of sively objeaing to all the measures they had forward. llse Bill, then the suhjea of debar was sure would give the greatest dissatisfailion the Militia, who, from recent intercourse whieh had had with some regiments at the barrack* neighbourhood of the flistriet from which , returned, ho knew, were led, from the late meat ' oldie Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Windham), Capta an increase of allowance, and were -- sent autiously awaiting the promulgation of t thought, that irconomy was not a sufficient / titration for a distic.ition like that proposed made in this case, as the militia was liable ; name duties as the regulars, and had alwere .fLour.rtte 6111 o ii perfoien them as well. He should 1 to go into a Committee, under the , .7‘t sufficient would transpire therein, to induce Right Honourable Gentleman to relinquish '. .... Colonel CRAUFURD said, the Officers. Army really needed the increase of i which s ini allowed to them, as had been teem ifiad in see of the gaols of the ceentry ; an he could conceive that this Bill would offend the Officers, as it was . , acknowledginz the' the), gentlemen of "priiprlf, who, did not depend these pay for subsistence. They could noVs any more ground to complain than the Guards a who were similarly circumstanced. Colonel MI'L'FORD said. it had always, been understood to be the rule, that the Milltsp,Asteld have the same advantages as the, fieNies alt he Use. . Mr. WINDHAM said, be rem fee she purpose of withdrawing, for the regent. Ms Weal fe Speaker leaving the Chair ; and moved, ii . r tie an instruction to the said Committee. , , have powers to estend the provisions of Bill to the Volooteets and Yeomanry Coups. It. Attar the gallery had been ordered to Imi 'this was agreed to. The BA then went WO; 4ssittee. In at firafclause, Sir W. ELFORD I:wormed, to lessee out e u.officers or,' upon which a division to& eyes, 17—noes, 38. The Bill then went ts the Committee, and the Deport was ordered ' received to-morrow. :, Sir C. POLE brought up a Bill to prevent making of new works and banks its public rivers hatiseurs, without the ,persisissieseff tall - ' - Osi the question for the second reading. Mr. BAKER. and Mr. GARLAND le* objections, on the ground, that it was ,-._ _ the session to introduce a Bill of such magnitmle. • Mr. BAN KES said, the necessity arose from .some works which were carrying on near Plymouth harbour, and which, it was eonceieed. might detrimental to the public sets ice. The objea I the Bill was not aroitrarily to prevent poisons her 1 budding upon, or otherwise using, their own pm , perty ; but it was necessary the Court of Adnr ritlcy should know of the intention to undertake Hworks that might ale& the harbours, in order'` survey might be taken ; and the Bill only w provide, that notice should be given a certain s before any measure of that sort was undertaken.-- Ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. The Malt Bill went through a Committee, am' ' the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. On the motion of Mr. FOSTER, the Linen Draw -1 back Bill was read a third time. Mr. VANSUrTART brought up a clans', pro siding, `r That German and Russian linens shah, until the 25th of March, 1807, be intitled to t', e dravibaek,if exported under the proper regulations." Mr. FOSTER objected to the clause ; upon which Mr. VANSI l' rAR f (on account of the absence i.f Lord H. Petty and Earl Temple), moved, " 1"• i-I the further proceedings on the third reading of th • Bill should be deterred until to-morrow," This produced a conversation, in which Mr. DAW)ON, with much spirit, animadverted opal the conduct of those who persisted in reisi^s . clauses adverse to the spirit of the Bill. and to t'`' interest of the linen-manufaaure of Ireland. N a single Irish Member, not even the Chancello r of the Exchequer for Ireland, had voted with the Honourable Geailemair (Mr. Vansittart) and its Colleagues, on the subject of thießill; andhethouga it extremely unreasonable and unfair, to Pre 4 such a clause, at a time when those Members bad quitted England. Mr. FOSTER said, if it was persisted in, he would divide the House, and no other binaries. should proceed, until this Wit, which had been !. ' repeatedly postponed, at the desire of two Noihr Lords ( H. Petty and Temple) was disposed of. Mr. Vansittart at length withdrew his amen, ,' moot, and the Bill was read a third time and passed. Oa the motion of Mr. ROBSON, certain 'Etta;' from the Barrack Master at Sandown Bay, in mss Isle of Weight, since the Ist June, were ordered t. , be laid before the House. Mr. VANSITCART brought up a Bill to se,- proceedings for the recovery of certain penalties u: der the Tanners' AO, which was read a first, andL , : - dered to be read a second time to-morrow. The Committee on the Irish Mail Coach Ittu! Bill, was deferred until to-morrow. The Lottery Bill, and the Land ra, Ilederti?... Bill, went through Committees, and the rep. l were ordered to be received to-morrow. . . The other orders were then disposed el, u a , One P'Cfock the HOUS:. ALY,tICDCd. roc Cue *on Usti spa salt hts siot to at if rl AIM . * - er, tit II C II trefore, • I bein g id there TH io faith bold be ipeAket rALe. ocidedly Mr. to dle. n odious moral Itegnjer be was but we t of the the nay IPPiwbe- any p on great Owl ir the mile- • pair tf, une, le Minis. W e f sums. to tht brought due a bate, he 'aeon to to the whi,:h he anneal ke, in the lure o he an set en meastpes ham), to Stag e at pre. eiyed if it. Ma twill trt Corsi. pied to be Freer ble to the , It= rave bean an a vo:e the hope mere isJoice d» Th the Biti. era of the which wit . ten ts is emend a ril4 to dNiG{:a wad ire • woe% ihey'were • • rent upon not have tut. lards had. in TA aye been up.eboali of A P 6 l liar. race plarpeie Cum ma for the • w That it and that they with " ths said , Pe. es cleared, frost to a Com. barb :the words upoi hit phe aair er-- he throngh be ered to be revolt the ' • Ore iblie rivers 1 lb. Ad. Obi offered a A . haU ttoo late in and egnitmie. ' the woes from r Plymouth . might be lie re Ghia of be moos from late it 'awn pro- Mot : of Admi- undertake order that A law 'My went 19 the strain time dertaken.— , C