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'ntestant Uniiir.,li Wnd r wiliclf bOasted is t the while - of an Ilnii:.Geiftleinan: for reit great respect. 'Phis Sticiety'llad held • .ting on the 12th of Febrtiary, an4i in icy it had generously prOinised its protec - British and holind itself at all , ok ov er its safety, aacl give all the•in 'lie Society ni posses . s' for the gene !„ . From this general sort of 'promise,: 'e. expected that that House might . be ly enlightened by their cominrinicatioris. iation which they had alre.ady given to ofsonie anonymous l e tt ers , in most grave charges were preferred Catholics, chat ges, whic4 did not f a ll litrginhem g't with murder.. Th,,e 'Ton. .who bail leaf them Lis . nanie very soon repent it, it he had not re dreadv. Matly of the enemies of the lainis Were ilislcops and Clergymen. ion was opposed by thO;e who 'bad ii heads, and liv some Mat° had mitres the front of the a Itevervild anal very Learned Prelate, ie (Sir .hail the 'highest respect, Fiore former writings lie had derived - And in s t ruct i ons but whoe last ...7ork, be lad not - notch 'of candour in it.— ortful misrepresentations 'of thtme' !red from him int this subje c t. O ug ht uiesSing the mild religion of the 8a- Lakiaii, thus to thunder (luthis mathe- A thuse who did not exactly think as tliat 'account, could he be Justified in to terthose who were opposed' to him the /a t i lt : 4 ? Could he mitke. no allowance tormitZitlt liich he, Sir R. was one) , who, Able te,,,,'''lttto,fag, were undonbterlly more:E wes, 410 .1 ;°° The - pnblicatioh he auverted. to Viich ,„,' e4 er marked by a apecious, h ad it roit to graiit just SO . 111liCh tOlgratioll is Nhi 1 ' 441 4• beet' ; granted, and being' granted, itas"t whildrawn The author of this book 1i ? .", 4 la 411 use of OLd lintne of 'Mr. 11 ' 4 brought f ird'in this work. urn. la , iai.e tin eitort to avail himself of that Lby endeavouring to apply , what : Mr. I.."rthe danger to , be' apprehended from a to acquiring hair is dozen Catholic a nti about v.vice as molly COminoners in the • 'ornament. Ihi coricludnd expressing a hope that agreeing to the reSoluiioa before t hey would give harmony to the two couri- , ' 4l rtl4l ' l . o i.4th to the empire whi c h it wog was necessary to meei the dangers which 13 APtits! expressed , hich h • regret at some expres. Ilth tu ad eseaped , the . Right Honourable. (kr. Grattan) ' 4l4o .which h e thought gave iggeLrated pigture of the grievances of 'which t ics ' thought• it rather hat tins country, which he had believed car tellex4ooll ill religious matters farther than other nation on the fac e 01 the globe, be accused, after all it. liadalotte, of deal , out. religloti4 'liberty in snrall ;and niggardly ,ctis. If the ,Catholies comp l ained ' ot 1 of *the Protestants ; in hall g nitin to them doetrines fo rrherly titan:n:d by 'th e i r an !, the Protei,4iiits itight fairly, retort on" that the complaint rested with themselves, orginatecl with them in the 'deelarations de, tb it their tenets had experienced no and" that they 1661 given up nothing of whichtheir anceators'had maintained. aeration which'the Catholic nd to other sects, an idea might be 11i.the: conduct: Of the present Ponta. `ng • ot: and ieje,eting the ordinance .:rdat framed .by the French Govern hteauSe they •went to tolerate everrreli- T 6 Catholic religion, it was stated, could , - Coalesce with any other, t h an Ch r i st league trill) Itight 1106. Gen ;Joked " w h y s h ould the . Itwitan Cu-- 4i!httee the Protestants ?" wohld say, l i h they Were - taught by the Heads-of 44 relt, that their religion could no 'labia: e with miy other, than Jesus Christ could vtith a Demon, no ingeninty was required this question. Nothing had ever ""ne, to remove those impediments l'y the Catholics intermarrying with P4'lo i i"this. lusty: a d of this, the p o w er of dispens :ges had been so strictly reserved to the ` t Crime, that it' had never been entrusted to e h t.. l,l l l :"'' The salt , l!Ciceltisiveprinciples goid `4,flitch of Rome as formerly, and the same ' l .' 4 ' 4 were set up to singleness of divinity. lett eli ,ol ( 0 going i n t o t h e C omm i ttee at this ,tt when the ,proper period arrived for go the Committee, or for proposing some " hiessure on the subject, which would be ',v l th a roast pro:3pect of attaini ng th e (4,),it,,,a1s set f ort h i n ihe" reiolution of his, (6 , tIon ; F riend, he would not find a moreo supporter than hail (Mr. Banks), art abler tiud, hut not one, mores hearty in the lie had in no degree changed his opinion ! subject tvas las't before the lionse, - and , Ski t ' he sho u ld now I . \-e was perfect SentillieiltS 1 1 /13 ; (!ii be h a d then- ex- If the objects his . Hon. Friend .161(1 . in: 'tt r 411 (1 he attained, or appLared 'practicable, lilli tilit °l l must il k :, ill filVOUr lit tilt: prupc , ititlon.lie Lo them. On a former oceasion he liati stti,,that, some resolution might he Follle to on it, th;ti:eet, sometime before they could act ou wiloilieY Might have an oilportunity orlearh .l4ol4 o tt ' , beet such resolutious prodneed 'on the t the people. lie rejoiced that such 3 n I . l 4, l ` l ` 4 "' .‘ ity hod been afforded them, as it enab l ed torii iati _''ulhe to the discussion with more in- o the subject. m !: It tuns now seen Cr' created a most ext e n s‘ive and , r i ,tetat i t e r", hull that too among a most re itytit [1 c ,' L " of the Pretestailts of tile Church ie resolution proposed by the ill -tile last SCS— *llll,,,'t wiiti ,fotwatil i as it iteetned,, urideri Ihike eerintu o wennistances, as just at that: Cul t u „'L'ibi)erate tesoiutions Which had Nits .rtilititi "Y, Catholies.of :Ireland reached teletiliarcc, 4it„.l,l'esc, however, with a felirity It _tir hi„ he made argnment in ta -I,:i.i_peraii„, -Ile contended that this in -I.7ihniient to c al` !Ise tesult of the-rod's :of ' 44112411 e their claim s into consideration. ;•.7a,ltutbv thew that we are riot against ~ 0 i . The p r o ot,:ts interest ,om il f e I Iti first tric e ' P!! ' !sotut. oo i IP. . ilnii t o th e I si l i kei to im: o',, iliorniarion ii 1 ` 1 I,f; (ral gOWi. 1 1 : . it was to i e ri.,,, otcall3 The inform. 0 : 1 * te world e: * f Ilitli th e , tinst tire i !',, ,Aort of chi] a ?tiltleinipa ' 4 !!,tholilit, tfite i l it all I.4 tholie ei ' k 4 4.1 • Si. „r nerpatic Yrl th „:fll°eii 4 t4ir heat '., f t tli tood t` whom i i to gilt! f r 1 00 (lin ‘ , ll ‘' , llo. i ,4e Mk d t l i t h lght, 1 1 , r ' c ants' :4 0 i riel dtierei 4 ° ll pri , . .:Alt of mat !nu rkgainit lit did) , . ..,.._ • f ) Vi I i 41 " 1 not ids 2,1(1414o 1 haa aim; teat thane, sr) )I`lisi id t air l king t e o t ts) . 41 631 i ,Vdri P( 1 Petre h ope ::;:(114 they '4414 ; • , artll tll, Olt wits ► • ' C ' I • .. Aitx 11:14444M) s‘:,,'Llggerat 1. Liith p ii c , thi tOkratir Other . ?,' oh! be nc out re ii i ,O. hick of (loctri ors, the that t tt orgitu: ituak, „ affil 1 )1 t i*4l ‘ i / 1 %t o t ! tole, r ext v , 14, 0 . fruit 1 4;1 4 )1413i 4 i, tt egt t 'lleord L 44 1,) 4it ed " It e col itag u i 1 4, 4 1 44 ttatl ii Ifiat‘4ll4te th ti w_ie n tss i i t (111 11req eiee %vit. Ig4e With I?'; 114 clq 4 4 , u e 4 ‘ L stintd. k' t44l ttlig e s tit :.'F 4113111111)s, It tt ` e Clitir ( le 1414011 g 4 "lkh l N • ,'' hist 1t k , the 4 b:PA.t, e , il iii l, uit: u qq .„ t,441,t fil l 41te l Ile t hui .4, #""."' . . . ritteriding.to their case; end ihnse angry f;Y2l'infr:i will`slatitti!.* The sittl'e,estibil the I. if • tit r.' tlethau bad ken :wended to; hut what . Cras the tone and' ,teniper in wide!: they now apol:ed to meat Jtniight have been-•ef4ected that in firstinstunce, sonic grateful test Miony tloe they eaterteint. , i - of the step tlui(co .I. l :ur!iaxect: tvOuld have give». insterollofea, s b an titter they had 'had intelligence of what . it id passed in , the month:of Tuly, 1812 . , certain res:Y;ations were published, - signed by their Seerv::l7, forth, " that they curtained se.:.iusituppreven sions that religious Perseeetion ..vas anotit to re commence in Ireland: 'Thus, havingineti that for Which they, had lone' •stranz:. , ;,led, their - .es were no sooner attended to than the r..*ilotini w;;s met by no attempt to -propagatt: an :ilen that• , persecution was about to commence: C,*, - the part of the Catholics there appeared a dispo.- sition to accept of nothing short of the whole of 'what they demanded, of that hot as an un qualified right. luineed of askingThr protection, they asked for power, and claimed its as their right. He was not. surprised at being thus cheer ed, for he believed there were some Gentlemen in that' House who would say that. they were justi fied in claiming it as a right. If.so, he begged to ask in 'o, , l»it manner It could be proved that an es tablishment like ones, in which a Protestant King and the Pretestant Religion were npheiti by. the Ivy, had not a right to support itself by• the law ! the , Comtitution oFtlie lan i ? lie would ask if It is not aeknowlet:gc:l by ell the best writers, that the right of self-preservation was the clearest and' the most paramount of 'all tieties ? When the Ca l . tholies Tut forth o , eir chum to civil rights; with out any qualificetion, he believed very fen , of people would go with them: The flight 117.0nouir able Gentle Man who had brought forward thenre..; sent motion, he was not for coneediog the claims • of the Catholics without some qualifications, aunt his Right Honourable Friend • (Mr. Canning) he was sere ‘vould call forlarge securities. Inc was convinced it would be iMpoSsible for any Pnrlia ment long to maintain a Protestant Monarchy and Church, which complied, with, the donands of the Cattail,* and unconditionally conceded whet they'required. The right of a man to Worship his God in his own way, he-considere4. to be ate indelible right, hot when the advotate.s of the' Catholic, carried _this further, and , seid that a man. in any sOciety, worshipping his God aprinst the• Established Chu re.di; ought, because he was free ly allowed to do this, to be placed in every respect on , the same farsting as a. Member of the. Estkib- ., : lishedChurch, ho could not admit, without an adenuate, security being; given. When, however, in'tfie case of the Catholics, any thing was said abootAtaliticat'ona . , far froinagreeing to, any thing, of this sort, they felt indignant at such a proposi tion beingsubmitted to them ; and in one instance had come to a resolution, winch reprclented last requiring such Security as that which. \\Mild be likely to spread irritation, endanger many sites, and risk thb . llllVatirM 'of the - country:- 'An ' order of thig kindthey had 'affected to e'ottsititl; piece.of inO.titing mockery.. The' Right Honour able Gentleman (Mr. Grattan), Oh a former occa. Sicu, when bringing this' subject forward, had spoken a good ikual ion,the subject of foreign in fluence. On thislople he had notenitir„irvd,„ opening this debate, butt formerly lie had .inain tained, that a provision ought to be made agaiirit fOreigninfthence. Ile then adverted to the writ ings • of Mr. Clinch, frOin which lie read several passageslon this head, insisting on,. the right of unrestrained correspondence. This right, it was: here stated, their ancestors were, very. jealous of, even with a Catholic establishment ; hence it was inferred:that it was still more 'anxiously guarded by the Catholics of the- present day, as the v were subject to .a Protestant .l stablishment. lie pro- t , ceeded to comment on the difliculties of carrying the , plan , of the Right 1.-lonourable , Gentleman (Mr. Grattan) into effect. He was surprised that' be should think that the' Llouse would sailer those clauses which 'he (Mr, G.), proposed .to insert in the preamble of his Bill, which were of such great importance to the Constitution:, to be given ttp for the pturpoie of being thus re-enacted in this This he (Mr. G ) had proposed to make a • funit mental law which could not he repealed, but he B.) knew of no law which could he so en acted as to he putout of the power of the supreme body of the .Start , to repeal it. The. Right :ion. Gentleman would thenintrodure a sweeping repeal of all disabilities. Catholics would then' be sof t fered to sit in Parliament DM the .11,ieht Ilona Gentleman mean to repeal the. Corporatioo utnut Test Acts'? It was desirable know his plan before they went into the . CornMittee. Those Acts which he-had named had been thought, ervo• neously perhaps, by Blackstone,. acid others of us great authority, to he the bulwinks .of tlie Coristi tuition, and.he, wished to. k.ll-otv how far tt' Right Honourable (rentlemannw.-.. repared to . When a favour a bl e time arrived for attaining hone objects which the Ilight:'Hon Gentlen`ian had in' view, he should hailit with unfeigned joy ; but at present, behoved the Muse would not go into the Committee. The question ought Itot nosy to to be lent where it was last year. lt had heen thrown back.by the intemperate conduct of the Catbolies, which. had excited. a strong sensation against tlwrn •in the minus of the Protest:mt.:L.-, Had tht Catholics' been more moderate; the Pro teStants `would have been less apprehensive; and had.their petitions been- differ,:ntly _warded, the clay when their prayer could he attended to.would have arrived sooner, in Ids opiulou, than it could now he expected. Mr;GRATTAN' explained. .I ) z,rtuotrr:admitted.that nothing ought to be givetutathe•CatholinOvhHi could not be con , .. ceded with security to the State, but at the same tiitse he-contentled 'that nothing ought to be wit teldoodess it could be shown there would be in, security in granting it.. The Catholi6 to complain of most, provoking disabilities, predll4- eci as they were frorn rising in the learned .nrofes sloes, and'in the artily,. beyond '.lt eertaitt 'when we admit them 'to wealth and knowledge, wt give :them the. elements of power, yetdettiO them-the exercise of it, fu. every society (pnttiol., , utailitary fume oot of the question) wealth 'roil lintiwtedke gave:power,; . but hr the .ease cat the ca tholics we inverted the order of things. \Ye ex -eludtd Lord Itingall Onto the Senate, while his Meisiber• oftbe. State tenial gervant wig' a ier2r . sT;):: of all the ordinary.p...lociple§ Ttlie seeietv - trewther, 'was digrifcied with 'thr r)t conitituticnt.. was Slcid the Coy!, ;tii„tioe: be alt.ared- if the prayer,of the, Ca,' C r l t thtilies w i s h e d liii the. Constitution as 1t I.'', to hear itshurdens: • a:3,i partieipate in Its fate. They were rea.ly tr) their fortunes, and ieto t he'ser.:ice of the public ; but they t o I,,Th- t e tient teeir,,con , ;:..ienee, their re- gion, t I 'their hoilow . , without winch they. dangerceisl.sci.tes : - , --Their. ancestors, Cqtholics, werecons'otent act '.ore, tb agb they were had. Their hod a tiialiolleal perL'etiott. It hod been done :nut they considern.!g it; they could go 1;:oA. This , kes useless. The tone for them, to,have paused ..was before they heaved till' those ,0,1, of the earth, thot.c: Mountain's., which the d.,e fears of their ancestors had heaped', 00. thee:. Saonirt they how hurl them on the'Ca -001:es again,?--VsTbere was the, nuts mein that ot, it ? Wilat,then must be done, for it Was imooF;sible to think things could reai.tri as they were ? The Catholics were, not to be reg:,,'Ll ed as slaycs who sought emancipation Mint ti.eie chains, Their • claims were tl nitwi t to be at tended to what the'; 11041 obtained as for what they had.ooc. Placed in this ~,-ituutien, must be base„did they, not aspire to mire' : than they haye, odious mid contemptible if they, dissembled it, ; 'fbey : wreild be formidable as domestic ene neies, if, they did .nnt entertain the sentiments they avow, for the empire could .not long resist the contagion of four millions of suck degraded wretches as they must be; if having what, they have,they could leel indiffer,ent about that to whit:h they.now lay claim. The anomalies of the pre sent system, he. proceeded to point out,, trod commented with. great force ,011 the i11e01136- tetity of sudering Catholics to be ,Lleefors, (grand Jurors, &c. in ~, o tne. parts apt& _empire, where they might be., dangerous, „ while, were excluded from those situations, .in other Tarts, where they hadit not inJ.heir power to be other than !toneless, It was said a Catholic could not be credited on his oath, and yet, .i his oath he might he admitted to our estAblish-, luentg,- luiviiti; no titiv to cootidenee but his per- At' - Catholics were not to be believed oh their.oaths, itedead of haring petitions on their 'table, Praying for se.enrhy . agoinst exiweted claw _ger; their prayer ought to he for re,3cue from pie sent evils. 11 . . - the gceat htilwark of the COnstitu : Cum nit'it be overthrown t 9 satkly the Catholies, he adMitted their prayer should be refused. Let it be shawl► that the, great principle laid down at Revolution forbid them to hope, and they ite.ist bow to their sentence, as to ale decree of fate ; but before they submitted to this eternal inter dict; he would appeal to every man if. they Were not entitlettto have it shewnllient, not. by.vague assertion, hat by evidence, clear and bright as the light of ileaven,:that what they asked - was in xonsistent with the security of the Constitution. Ile wished this to be discussed and proved, if it .could beproved ; but lie warned them Vl' beware h o W theft outlawed' Ireland 'by an interested atta 'fuetitmv.ofouour..Let not those 11'110 promised :redress, 'affect, to consider theneselees bound by a spell 4:4-t-lieir..ovvil raising, This might lead ; to diSitsteU; equalle4l Only by tbe acetunpanying grace.. The only: two. guards devised against the • incroaehments.of the Catholic.; were the Oath of :Stinremacy ainV the Declaration against Piipery. I,trith regard to the first, it had . ory,inally little of rl porn ical aspect. lie' did not allude to the periOd of, Ileory the 4il;hth, when the tyrannical. dictates of, the Monarch were to be received Fib .the behil4S a deity ; . but in the time of janteS .the Se-cond i ; when' the Oath oU Supremacy Was not of n.political.natare. That this was the care appeare,d. from .the circunistance that the C:itho lies a 'hundred years after the fteforinati were ' - iUhuitced to. Sit in Parliament. .17,xclasion was-thervforenot a part'of . the Refortnatioo, and 'it was not till the reign of Charles the Seeohd, th a t the 'oath ' r.ra's Ini\ed with policy, and, religions renunciation was required to qualify a person for holdiog.an °thee in. the ;State. At that.pet io.l he held these guards to have been necessary ;but not now, when they lied departed from the Reformai tient by tolerating the Roman C religion,, and, receiving' itas in not,,ing• Imitin: to their po litir,,il establishments. fie wished to be told, In. plant tan!rible ladgatage, 'wh.it principle So touch had . ' been given, told the rest refused ; and; .contended that there was no good re:mon for per this Coarse, Whi , :n re.itedon the reiection of'it Rinaan Catholic's :.f-headhered to his religion, and 011 the belief of his assertion if he abandouel it. This was wors , .- tlnto tl'an:ittbstan tiatiOtt. AS tilt 'the declUratioo sttiainst PotierY, he maintaitted, that by their oaths the Catholics (knit:a-the te , Uporul power' of the and, bouod themselves. to continue and support; the Protestant Establislonent.in Chtireh and State. But they wished them to swear toe the abstract principle ; he thought, it enough that they did the thing, Oct the subject of the nomination of the . 4ishops he held, that and 'perfect sa tisfaCtiou otWit to be given' tti the 'Protestants. Smelt seenvities, in his opinion, inigbilui deviled It ironic! satisfy them; without :being inconistent. with, the esseth;e. of the Catholic faith ; and this was' it strmig nrgument for going into the. Gun. inittee.: It wr.,l asited, woidd you repeal the Cot., poration and ,Test .A,cts.? thonght,they s ho u ld be, repeiled. It Was a burlesque,on the ilevOlit,- tion to call .these its bulwarks, or'rather a bur lesque upon onStittztion, frere die' Learned Geotleman went into. a history of the •e Arts, to ,ilelVthalotheforin t i r was not nut oduced 1 ,- . the.; Catholics but agtilost whet' Accbries, latter by Lord Shaftesbury to ket9, wlt the Duke of , York front,the throne. The oati-.cs for ikdiV., hug them were. gone past, ;Itsla vet thee I nwious ftal,,lneuts were; fr - ret:liued and ellthAlled :its the bui ) warLs Of the Snarl • Ile then Went into .a si consideratiou of , the Bill of .Itights, of which 'the exclusion of the CAtflotici from office formed no Hart; and .therefoie it . could not 1111 W be brought to, sie next atlyerted .to . th t! ~,:evaitee of th e treaty of T.timeriek, told deseri!:- t that treaty att 'the'OnlY _ stain upon the Reps-A:Tit 'W€14:41:4 of..per tidy ;ind injwitice tow t the Catholics . hold fron t the.o I 5I by it, but which, so planted by in:re• ceed pins and penalties,: -fie did not believe the Itreit esco.ol ritat day were aware of rile injustice they 'were doink, when thoy ed the Act, imposing new 'tlitenities in the Ist of AVillitunenel Mary ;Init tits (sere tnieled b 7 set echo then , as at ail 'tithes, ..vere algiut the . Court, ',misrepresenting their 'cainftry: lit se great men had declered sovcr eignty to be Protestant, thiaking this a snflieient security ,and hadleft the'rtst to dine, and the tiitie was (Jots'corne for posterity to ter. The country wus, nett' fighting the stu n . b:itt le Its I'Cing ktit with a nun* powerful euemy than .Louis the '(1 V. But ► they lettl also graatei r.seeeirees.. King Wilillate, • fi:otn . was couip,died to vetch one hal: . Ifi;; stilects tvhile •he sought ''Ss i.tli thc other. Were they to tol.Tew this pert of his esample without the stone necessity? II ;:t . dellpred he fielieved that by oneact tliey toigh unite all to strike with hand and - heart nOinst the Colossus to whore they were opposed. Let them not, then, by withholding thiS from Ireland, doom her to gloom, amid the bright prospects dateline; in every other part of. the Berpire. Ie could never aseertaln , :e`as meant uy the cry 01_ the Church being in danger. These conces sions w;niiii neither endenger it now nor hcree-' ferth. Row could it thus overterned;intlier by force and oul of that Ilnuse i Or ,t sir power in it? if hy,force, the Catholics were as conipetent to the task, nOtv, as they could -be then ; and as for • the idea' , of„a few Catholic 'Members at quiring 3.sceulattey'vlrti,t; their: wails, it was th'e reveit. of a: disiirdered lie enlarged upim the pre sent being the fittestepossible time for seeite; if any thing could he done, and - pot sto, till tor bulent.times, *when the-Irish C:-ttliolies, would he as oretloaninant in property as they were now iii. ` numbers over their Protestant fd)ow-itiltjecoi that country.. TbeestabliShed relieioietettuLl antfer'' no danger fro n this. •It was a plant of . ee hirtn; , • tired years growth, and . its root had struck *jeep'' into the State, so that it could not be'sletkeo but hy a eolitieal. earthcptAlte. It was also *it(a ed, less disgraced by betty; made a pOlijical Mr. P. then applied liimSelt to answer. the :irgu-. Merits 1 ) 1 the tnyeeding speaker, as 10 the eile-t on his thiod of Inc nureeretet Pi2tit ions of the EttgliSit' peo , pre against the Catholic Claims, and the. vie - kneee ;led intetnperance displayed by the Catliolici.f, thenisclres. To the formor'he replied, that it Wits nither dishouest argtiment against, the Irish, as at the lirtiou they were taught to ex p ec t heater, facilities in the prosecution of their Claims In the Imperial Parliunient, and here was it Matter 1)1.06;414 to rebut them, which would not have any effect in the - Irish Parliament. But he denied the filet of the people of Englaud being hostile to those Claims ; and ridieuled the idea ot appealing ;. to a rabble to-. decide an intricate and complex queStion of State policy. Witli respect to the se court point, he condemned time violence of indivi duals, and Of bodies,• amonte the Catholics, as , much as any tuan. Their intemperance was of fensive aed diSgusting, and it relined to see them usurping power over the 1h. , .4t sacred rights Of man, bolding an inquisitiee o;er pyivate persons and families, ao,tl endeavouring to eon- , trout the elective franchise.' As 'little could he reconcile himself to the tone of peremptory de mand employed by them, But 'was it fair tip visit this . upon the whole. Catholics Of Ireland, who were as much offended by it es the honourable Gentleinan or hiniself? ' They were engaged. to legislate, and not to be heated by the imprtidewee of a. party. A measure attempting to give .Sitis faction would hate tts s t.'4,:ft. • When it was seen in Ireland (II ,GOVertlMent were ready to act ii ' be . rally, and were only Withheld by these intent -perate demands, it would separate the sound from the ansomul among the Cat tolioi, and their disaf f,:cted demagogues and orators, with all their mike, would sink: into Ws i Tnifiettnee. That party Wished, nrithing so much ss refusal on this ocersioli, that they :night keep alive the thune of discord, aiid by this the Government would he recruiting far thetn. Neither had thy pnt it into th o ' w poer of the good Ca w tholics' to drtyn those Who Called theinsetve3 their friends, bet tune they had no alternative, but to ,throW rhemselv , !s at the feet of :t Governmeut,. Which had declared it woelil not. liSten to' their 'deelaratiens, blamed the Government for 'tilt untavottrahlp change that hail taken, place iu the temper of the . t-ntholics.. It they could apply ant remedy, they ought f(i matte the attempt in time ; aml if the measure was inadmissible, they ought to pet dewn the fence of hope by the certainty of veteetion, and',endeavottr to reeoncile. the Catholics to the gloom. of tilt it con.;iti oe lie ~pett:c.•Witil perfect sincerity; told if they went i u tn Conintittee, he • would co-operite with :dl his power to devise means. to satin;,.,' the (...'ettholies, and at the same ttue, give ample security to tilt Protc l / 4 t a ntS, illtploed to he :t tnexeire, winch it could not, he : while the Catholic Clergy were in their present state of precarious . depera.tenee on their parishieners. its to' the. Veto, he thought the douse might fairly give it up, hut takiog cure to SeCtirti dome:;ti , !uchttinatio:t tat tilt. P.i,hop,, to which the Catholic body did ,not object. Even now the Pope did tint nminate, ald all that 'm:; Watite,l on.this subject .wits to de,that by legisl tion which was 111Oiv dOlltt by canonical election. his speech was received With loud cheers by the oppos:tion.] Voaxe, in a very 'able and aroeentettatire spev.eh, replied to the lion. and Lenrni.,l (;enth7- mail, whom etimplhnentol for the hril- ; litimit display of eloipteoee he had ,jest ntad,e, whieli proved him a valli-lele Sttioll to the 11 OttSe ; yet ChPlueitt li s he was,,lie lett! tailed eouvilieleg hint, ;old he requested , the inthkigoice of the itoz:tse v.'hih: he Btated the. !A :rounds Am v 4 Lieh. he h e ld j t del,e e ot. opinion. It we, evident the. Honourable tientlet4all 114)1 of the point where the dang e r, .1 4 y, ami d lie (Nir.X.) confessed, that if unit that point, flit; peril of forelett ieterierence, he cotild he hi ! wou l izi 101 l himself to the tint thou, and - tie(' bow, far they coulkl satisfy the claims' of they Ca.tholks. Itefure eemitig to tia argorttenttill ails, however, he:?,et the 1.100 Geotletnatt right in let's or thrte pitse:Tes . in which he lutd mish;i 7 derstood his lion, .kirieiel Ctlr. Friend hit4djutititiCa <hi> . ClVlnge of. opinioe, riot Oft the se tintents expreisetl by tise shinty, the resoluttee of last S'ession, limit :el the gicat; itl...eratien that had 'taken tole of lhelversteltants.ofeire,