The Sun. — London, England, 1802-04-10 00:00:00

The HouSe then went into a Conimittee of Ways and Means, to consider of further Supplies to be granted to His Majesty. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, that he had been induced to make some al teration in the Duty on Exports and Imports. It .Pas now his intention that no additional duty should be laid on tonnage ; that the duty on Imports should he raised from 31. to 31. r zs. per cent. at an avera ge ; and the duty on Exports reduced from two to one per cent. ; the highest duty on tonnage t,? . the Ea st I n di es, to b e 3s. ; to the Cape of Good tro pe, as. ; and to other parts is. , The House h av i ng resume d , t h e R eport was or _ uered to he received to-morrow. The Tax Bill on Servants, Horses, Carriages, re Dogs, was read a s e c on d t i me , an d or d e r e d to committed tomorrow. The Committee on the Malt and Beer Bill was ° Meted to stan d f or T ues d ay. The House then went into a Committee on the c orn T ra d e Bil l, and after a few words from Lord c LI NBER.vrE, Mr. COR,RY, and Mr. MANNING, e House resumed, and the report was received linmediately. The Bill, w i t h t h e amen d ments, was or d ere d to be en grossed, an d to b e rea d a t hi r d time to-morrow. a :rhe House then went into a Committee on cer. : I : Supplies to be granted to His Majesty for the r , Vl ce of Ireland.• CORRY moved the several h, r particulars, whichii,, were as follows :---15,6921. for certain pub tin ; 3721. for certain buildings in Dub.. b ti it,, 2 76l. for charitable purposes ; 3,4 011. for At . ng Churches ; 9531. for Linnen and Hemp I , 4l °Faetures ; 4,3 8 4 1 . for the Fever Hospitals ; 12; 1 5 1 . for widening and repairing the streets of fir, ROBSON o b jected to our paying the debts 0f Irish Corporated Towns. 7 ' 4 e CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER W a iled, t h at t h e P u bli c F a i th was ple d ge d to dis oilrge the debts incurred by improving the streets fo Dublin, as the Irish Parliainent had been pledged thr the m b e f ore t h e Un i on ; he also observed, upon ! Particular custom that prevailed respeaing those n gs in Ireland, the capital of which did nor, as rgyr t ne cases of London 6r Liverpool in this country, t r 4 =or Its o wn p art i cu l ar ex p e nce s ; th e y w e r e de_ Led by the Parliament of that kingdom. ti,,Z•BERESFOI?D stated, that the expences in p~ r j4 4 0 ,1 were incurred under the orders of the the :lent of Ireland. No Corporation existed uty was gratuitously performed by private in,, 'erten. The debt incurred was, strictly speak. that th, t at of Parliament. With respeEt to the idea i mprovidenttni ss . bargains were made by the Corn. i toi loners in the sale of ground, Scc.' the rift was d i_ tie Y the reverse: in proof of which the Hon. Gen tacill'an instanced two cases, wherein the purchasers Ivl ia a t tually become Bankrupts, in consequence of iti tl they conceived were the hard bargains made • 4 ,, them by the Commissioners. ti o ,"- JONES was sorry the Aft of Union was t o ' so clearly framed as to preclude all difference of I,„ n4t ruftion, and hoped the necessary elucidations „" u ,ld be made to it before the end of the Session. highly approved of the wise and libe ra l princi tel laid dow n by th e C HANCELLOR o f t h e E x. i l l t : l c2t7Eß, and assured the Committee that no man e t a more thoroughly approved of the Union than ti ii d L id, and was sorr y t h at any G ent l eman s h ou ld e t ''' . such comparative trifles as those in question q e te conside re d a s a m a t ter o f real diff erenc e by lerne n of this country. C 4l • CORRY called to the recolleCtion of the ta n ti o .. !ittee, that votes, on precisely the same prin_ nl as that before them, had been passed, not Of ' p in the last, but even in the present Sessi on for a rijament. The Papers were only laid . pro Nj ou l before the House, as Gentlemen were pre ti. 41 Y in possession of all the material informa ilscl:tlltY could possibly convey ; but he could nor, do ni vePrese ntative o f t h a t p art o f th e U n i te d King_ le nt ,' to whi c h h e h a d t h e h onour to b e l ong , li sten st.. en l 7 to the constructions which were put by some nr ) 4 e men on the relevant clauses of the Aa of Uni tdi ilrgue‘l-ithat the grants in question were allow strift°t on the score of liberality, but as matters of co ns . ri ght, arcing from well known and maturely f!nt e . .' er edeontratt, at the time of both Countries W ire in to t h e U n i on. Th e expences i n quest i on and d efrayed Solely by the Exchequer in Ireland, n ut as here, by Corporations or individuals ; and, 4i ic e ta ent cases as they were provided for by Paha_ t o 01 ' they were charged in the aggregate, either e,l eC ivil List, or to other f un d s , and not present forto p arliame nt in accounts of paltry sums, charged li d , mi nute items, as was the custom with the Par at o f ip, o . i ron of e 4fOBSON o b serve d, t h at by hi s construe - Re is t the arti c l e , t h e aggregate sum i n quest i on Izie es ° be appropriated only to certain distinct set_ -rd1.41. 1-121 WKESBURY contended, that upon a 11 11 ,1 a nd liberal construflion of the Aft of Union, policy which Consistently with that system of . t) S e l ht to be adopted between the Countries, these .i fo r c es which were in Ireland considered and pan 11 - • as Public services, should be so held by the time Parliament. He was aware at the same d I : l i e that a line of distinction should be drawn, and -. : e r the principle he had laid down, particularly the e ,. cases where improper attempts-illaY be made to ! e'lttends the limits of these services, or in such ai l s" , a s Were new, wherein he thought Ireland t n ci ? l be bound to follow the example after the ~lon had taken place. 101111 b• CORRY then proposed the last Resolution, tr ell w as , "'That the Sum of 6,4321. is. od. be p l an ted to His Majesty, to be paid to the Cot . - Qi r t a ti " , for cleansing, paving, and lighting the 3' of Dublin for nine months.." 14)0111r. ROBSON made a variety of observations e rit 4 this subjeti, and respefting which he also ,tvOred into some detailed calculations, the drift of j ill 'ell Was, to prove that the charge was not only tetP:rovident in its details, but unnecessary alto t6- get. He said that a considerable sum wAs paid w_ % prso el:ens fo r d o i ng that in Dublin, which here a of grati s , and enumerated the different arti ap.nr charge which, 4, o / 6 1n tinent includi ng t h e - sa l ar i es an d f fit ly-six Officers, amounted to b y }li t o 7 3' 00 1. Iri s h currency. He averred that information, mach of which he acknovr. iedged came froth btiblin, anti pirtik from in viduals who did not wish to have their names known, the establishment was considered as a nui sance in that City, and that the charges were im provident. He contended, from the alledged filet, that for a rate, which we think he said amotinted to 18d. levied on the Citizens of Dublin, not •so much service was performed as for a rate of 13d. in the Parish wherein he resided, and generally in London for 4.d. where every thing was consider ably dearer. He insisted on the odious light in which the establishment in Dublin .was held, and hoped at least that if it were not abolished, it would be reformed. Lord de BLAQUIERE apologized to the Corm mittee for addressing them at such a late hour, but as some observations which had fallen from the Hon. Gentleman rendered it necessary, he should rather trespass upon their patience. His Lordship then entered into a detailed, able, and successful vindica tion of the establishment in question, from the un founded aspersions suggested by those from whom the Honourable Gentleman had his information. He gave an account of the Corporation, from its first establishment, and among other important services which he said it had rendered to the metropolis of Ireland, he enumerated that by its means forty_ seven fountains were erected for the use of the poor in different parts of the city ;—that a bridge of one arch was built over the Liffey, more grand, beautiful, and extensive, than any thing of the kind in His Majesty's dominions—That when the Corporation was instituted, there were only 4,800 lamps in the whole City ; and in little more than a month, they increased their number to near 7,800. A great deal of this was effected merely by the savings made by the Corporation.— That it had relinquished the Coach-Tax for the public accommodation, which, instead of the money now granted, so or t 2,0001. a year, actually pro: duced now 4.3,7601. by which the Consolidated Fund was benefi!ed more than 28,000 i. He be lieved, he said, that the Hon. Gentleman drew his information and grounds of charge from a Pam phlet, which had been prosecuted as a Libel, and the Author, for averring what the Hon. Gentleman just declared in his place, was, perhaps, at that moment standing in the Pillory—; A laugh)—and he deeply, regretted, that such language should be held, as he had heard on this subject, by any Gentleman of this Country, and he begged Gentlemen to recollect, that when a charge of 1,600,0c0i. was voted on the Consolidated Fund, for Bounties on the Impor tation of Corn, not one Irish Member objeEted to the charge, but they were happy in contributing to the relief of the Poor of this Country. .Mr. ROBSON explained that he had never seen the pamphlet adverted to by the Noble Lord.— Much sof what he had stated was k from calculations in a paper which he then held m his hand, and in other parts of his calculation he averred he was justified, from papers regularly before the House. The Question was then put, and the Resolution agreed to. The Chairman was directed to leave the Chair, and the Report was ordered to be received to morrow. The Grenada Bill was, after a very short con versation between Messrs. JoNEs, LUSUINGTON, and RoasoN, read a third time, and passed. On the Question for the Adjournment of the House being put, Mr. JONES rose, and adverted to the notice which he had given of a Motion respeaing the Po lygar War in India. However, as that contest was likely to last longer than the P4rlLment itself, and not being able to obtain some information which he was in hopes of getting in sufficient time, he should not bring forward his Motion at the time for which he had givell notice. The SPEAKER said, then it was understood, that the Hon. Gentleman waves his Motion for the present. • Mr. JoNEs replied in the.affirmative. The question of Adjournment was then put, and at ten o'clock the House adjourned till to-morrow. THE., SUN. St,LENI QUIS DICER E FALSUM AUDEAT ? LONDON, APRIL zo, zSoz. The PRINCE of WALES has accepted the invita tion of the LORD MAYOR, to dine at the Mansion house on Easter Monday. This will be the first public visit ever made by His , Royal Highness into the City, and the only instance for many reigns, of an Heir Apparent going there on such an occasion. The Office of Solicitor General lies, we believe, between Mr. MANNERS SUTTON and Mr. ROM IL iY.—They have equal pretensions in point of ta_ lent and charader. The former lately much dis tinguished himself in the. House of Commons, on the subjed of the PRINCE'S Claim. All Pass-ports for France have still the King's Sign Manual to theip. The Commissioners of the Transport Board have freighted so vessels, for the purpose of conveying the French Prisoners to their own Country. Their number amounts to nearly 15,000, and they are all to be sent home in the course of next week. Yesterday a Court of Diredors was held at the East India House, which adjourned at six o'clock till Tuesday next. The Skelton Castle and Trarvers, lately taken ,up by the Court, were stationed as follows, and or dered to be afloat at the under-mentioned periods, and to sail from Gravesend at the expiration of a month from the same period, viz. Skelton Castle, for Madras, to be afloat , 18th May, and Travers, for Bombay, zd May. Yesterday the dispatches for Bengal by the cherry were finally closed at the India - House, and delivered to the Purser. PASSENGERS PER TELL/CHERRY. Mr. Richardson, proceeding to take the Command of the United Kingdom ; Messrs. Gerrard and Brown, Cadets ; Mr. Alex. Tidy, free Mariner ; Misses, A. Brown, Ame lia and George trown, and Harriet Smith. NAPA L NEWS. PORTSMOUTH, Aiik A .R.R tirEO this day, His Majesty's Ships Pr;ncesi Royal, Royal Soverelgni and Prince George i from the Channel Fleet, to be paid off". Sailed for the Eastward, to be paid ofd', His Majesty's Ships Pamihes, Alexander, and Mercury; and the Falcon Sloop of War to Ireland. Arrived at the Motherbank, and put under Qua rantine, the Magnet, COY ER DALE, Peggy, FdTH E R BY, Silver Eel, STEPHENSON, John, HEW [TT, Castor, SIB BALD, and Norfolk, , from the Mediterranean. Arrived the jenny and Sally, YouNc, from London ; Kndon, PATRICK, from Exeter ; Peter•el, COTTON, from Bristol. YARMOUTH, APRIL 9. SAILED His Majesty's Ship Agamemnon, for Chatham, and the Craizer Brig, on a Cruize. Arrived from a Cruize, La Vesuve Gun-brig. FALMOUTH, APRIL 7. ARRIVED this day, the Brig Brothers, Captain THOMAS TREMAYNE, 4. days from Galipoli, with oil, for orders. Appeared off this evening in the Offing, two Fri_ gates, supposed to be His Majesty's Ships Fisgard and Immortalite, from a Cruize. They proceeded on to the Westward. Sailed several Colliers, &c. for the Eastward, and the American Ship Dart, Capt. PECK, with flour, last from Norfolk, for Barcelona. The King George Packet is expefted to sail on Saturday next, with Mail of the 6th inst. for Lis bon. The Princess Charlotte Packet, for Jamaica, and Duke of CumberlandPackc! for New-York and Ha lifax, with Mails of first Wednesday in this month, are expefted to sail on Sunday next. The Prince Adolphus and Duke of York Packets, from`Lisbon, may be daily expefted ; and also the Toczwishend Packet, from America. DEAL, APRIL 9. AR R IvE D and sailed for the River, His Majesty's Ships Romulus, Fortzthie, Alexandria, lliercug, and Deptford Navy Transport. Sailed to the Westward, the P/ . ymouth Navy Transport. Came down from the River, the Country Ships Anna, for Bombay, and Cornwallis, for Madras and Bengal ; and they remain with His Majesty's Ships St. Albans and Amazon, Hound Sloop, Monkey and C onjil a Gun-brigs. Arrived and sailed for the River, the Chance, WHITE, from Curacoa, after being detained at Cape Nicola Mole 23 days by the Blacks. Letters from Paris, inform us of some particulars concerning the Concordat which haS been submitted to the Legislature. The Archbishops, it seems, are to receive 15,000 livres a year, or nearly 8001. The Bishops to,ooo livres, or upwards of 5001. The Curates in large towns 1500 livres, or between 701. and Sol. and in villages too° livres, or be tween 501. and 6°l. The Government, it is said, will pay the Clergy of ail sets, except the Jews, who must pay their own. Captain BEROERETT of the French Navy, who distinguished himself so much in his adion with Captain Sir EDWARD PELLEW, in which, how ever, he was obliged to yield to British discipline and valour, is at present in this country, and has taken a trip into Devonshire, to see his gallant captor, who has, ever since that event, been his sin cere and ardent friend. M. CLERY, the virtuous attendant of Lours XVlth, has obtained permission to pass from Vienna to Paris, where he will spend a few months. Last night the Oratorios closed for the season, in a very brilliant stile at both Houses. Those at Covent-Garden have been more than commonly successful, owing to the excellent management of them, added to the attraEtive powers of Mrs. BILL INGTON and BRAHAM. At Drury-Lane, we have no doubt, they would have answered equally well through the whole season, as for the two last nights, on which they were very well attended. The Winter's Tale draws astonishing houses, It would, indeed, be a libel upon the taste and good sense of the Town, if the united efforts of KEMBL Mrs. SIDDONS, and Mrs. JORDAN, were not to be attraEtive. Colonel Pic-Nic has rallied his nearly routed forces, and has again taken the field.' Little BRID 0 E MAN and he are, it seems, soon to come to aelic4. Poor Mr. ROBSON is very ill used by the Paper's on both sides of the water : the French Papers at tack him without mercy, and even in his favourite Paper there was an ill-natured sneer the other day, respelling a Tax upon Asses. The Gentleman who is stated to have caused the beams in his cabin to be cushioned on his return from India, had, probably, received so many hard raps during his residence in that country, that he was resolved to guard against them, as much as possible, on his passage home. Yesterday morning, about three o'clock, a fire broke out at a blacksmith's shop in Bennet's-yard, near the Horseferry, Rotherhithe, which in a short time consumed it and the dwelling-house to the ground. i;idk,li':t ti.k AbE TO thibi.;k, great inipdittiee 61 tit! ably cidited in the following Speech of iVIr. on Thursday, at the Gencal Court of Proprietors at the East India House, and ;he general interest has created in the public t&nd, induce us to give it that attention, from which we were yesterday prc, vented by a press of other mat ter. • Mr. TiVlNfilb having made the Motion given in our Paper of yesterday, it -,vas bccon d by Mt,: HU6LESTON, who spoke nearly as follows I rise, Sir, to second. the Moti.ln, and althette I have not the vanity to think I cad add t' the impression which my Hon. Friend's Speech must have made on the-mind of every-person present, I shall endeavour to deliver my sentiments on the present momentous subject, hoping for the same indulgence that I have on former occasions experi enced in this Room. The East India Conipany, Sir, are certainly arrived at an awful crisis -- struggling abroad with serious difficulties, and at home threatened with an hard requital for the sacrifices by which they have been occasioned; but yet hope, Sir, that the highly respeaed Nobleman at the .Head of the Board of Comm', and his Colleagues; will re-examine their opinions, and that a mutual spirit of conciliation and a mutual perception of the n:•cessity of harmony, and cordial co-operation, to all the interests concerned, «•ill lead to an amicable adjustment of the existing difference. - I have perused, Sir, the Reports of your Special Committee, and • the other• Papers that have been printed for the Proprietors, on the subject of the Private Trade.—l have also perused the Publicati on of an Hon. Proprietor present, and have traced in it the same talents and indUstcy that I have for merly, with great pleasure, seen exerred in this R:,om e on the side of the • East India Company •; and I can truly declare, that I rose from the pert)_ sal, impressed with a convieqion, that all the mate rial principles and dedudians laid down by your Committee are substantiated ; and looking forward to what I consider as unavoidable consequences, I can see ne solid distinlion between the change de-, sired and an indefinite enlargement . of the Trade ; which it is, I believe, pretty generally adinid, would lead direalv to a system of COlination, and from thence to the dissolution of our Indian Ern_. re. This has been termed a Watch-word, and I hope it will prove a watch-word, and a signal of alarm, not only to the Proprietors of India Stock, but to every man who knows how inseparably connected is the stability of our Possessions in India with the vital interests of the State i it is, at least, Sir, in_ comestible, that whoever brings forward, or as sists the efforts of others, to accomplish so important an innovation as that which now engages the in dustry of that lion. Proprietor, is bound to demon strate thet no such peril can attach to it ; and that it may be adopted without wound or injury to Rights which the Company have so dearly earned, and which the Private• Traders themselves ought to feet it a sacred obligation to proteel. Now, Sir, what are the arguments and. inducements offered in favour of the Plan, and to disprove the danger ? Why, Sir s the late President of the Board of Contrail], and af.. ter hiin the Hon. Proprietor, lay their principal stress on the unanimous opinion of your most intel ligent Servants in India, in its favour ; that is to say, the most intelligent of those persons, a just indulgence to whose interests . the late President states, in the same paragraph, to be the leading o'. jea of the Plan. No one, lam sure, can entertain a higher opinion of the Servants of the Company than I do, both in respea to ability and integrity ; and "few have had better opportunities of judging of them ; but, Sir, there is a principle universally recognized, which prevents it from being usual to rely in favotit of any Plan on the approbation of those who are to profit by it f in such cases we receive the testimony of the most upright with considerable allowance, recolleaing that it comes to them with one of the strongest instinas of our nature on its side, which may blind them to its irnperfeCtions. - To what other cause can it be ascribed, that those Servants see only beneficial effeas; and no risk of anYeUnfa, vourable consequence, from a system which we, and many with us, think fraught with itumedike injury, and final ruin to the Company ? Is it unfair to answer, that they see it only on one side, and pursue its efreas no further than the period o f t h e i r own administration or residence in India ? But if it had been thought advisable to obtain the unbi assed sentiments of intelligent Servants of the Coin, pany, are there not Servants of that description in England, who, their fortunes being already re.. mitted, have no motive on the side of interest to warp their judgment ? Let me see their written opinions in favour' of the Plan, after they shall have examined it in all its bearings and relations, and I. will acknowledge them a solid ground of ait-ument, --The next argument relied on, is the opinion of the present Governor-General, the Marquis WEL,I.E.S. LEY. I hope I shall not be thought to derogate from the great merit and splendid talents of this Nobleman, who, almost immediately on entering on his high station, had occasion for all those energies which distinguish a great from a common mind, and chewed that he possessed them—but I contend, Sir, that on a subject of this nature, we do riot look for judgment, or judicious opinions, from splendid talents or elevated rank ; but from plain sense and matured experience-longer experience, certainly, and more matured, than the Noble Marquis could have possessed at the period when his Lordship ap. pears to have made up his mind on the sublea ; and it is therefore not unfair to conclude, that the ideas expressed in his Letters, were adopted on the par tial suggestions of others.—The Publication of the Hon. Proprietor would lead a reader to suppose that the opinions of the Governor-General, and of the late Right Hon., President of the Board of Controul, were equally favourable to the views of the Private Traders ; but your Committee have shewn that: there is an essential difference between them. The late President would limit the Plan to bona fide Indian Capital—" to the making the surplus pro_ " duce of. India the means of transferring the for " tunes of the Company's Servants in India to " Great Britain." He agrees with your Cam_ mittee, that " the permitting the transfer of