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AMERICAN eoNa-ft ss. SENATE, FEITI 15. t notice given, Mr: BRADLEY aSked lease to bring in the following,Bill, and passed to a second reading : encourage .more effectually the de le armed vessels of the enemy eliter of the United States Be it en lenate and House of , Representa lited States of America; in Congress .t if any British armed vessel shall At the •harbours and waters under ton of the United' States, (luring the pith Great Britain (other than yes cartels or tlagi of truce) it ma te y ' a vfni for any person or persons, in diatsoever, whilst such armed vcs lin within the jurisdiction of the to burn, sink, or destroy, evety 'essel, and for that purpose to use nutrine instruments, or anydestruc whatsoever ; and a bounty of one - tf the armed vessel so burnt, sunk; id also one half the .value .of her tdtle, zinc! apparel, shall be paid liury of the United States, to such , onh who shall effect the same, other !be armed or commissioned vessels , N, FEB. 16.—The Bill further to in ), Of the United States, by , put ildbig several sloops of war has 'use of 'Representatives, a:k also a i , se the appointment of six actin 'mend and six Brigadier-General's the United States. oati jnst arrived froth' Bermuda British ships of war had taken a `)s, howitzers, and rockets on tack on sonic of our sea-ports." iiil ltr NOVA SCOTIA. ig Address was presented to Vice '` v.ett before he left flalitaX "YER, EN: Vice-A s chuiral of the fine Sql!a cupunutoier in Chief of His . Iklajsty's ships the North American e.tatiou, &c. &c.. Majesty's Comicil, the Merchants, 4abitains of Halifax, cannot 't from Nova - Seotia without express \ction they have experienced during o f his Majesty' s naval .threes on and ready attention to the desires ' i s subjects to protect and promote• of this and the neighbouring pro ),.een 'duly appreciated, and demand ' 'tkiltiis leilgments. '° le t s i ncumbent on us to bear tes-' . zeal 'and unceasing exertions in of his Majesty's ships to re "heti and unexpected hostilities the e• s IIL/3iors:rinent of America again. t " . tts, and which have, been e." - ' an ested f our in the protection 0 11Celilitentaller°u3 captures of the armed 4ne, sll v , Znedesteem and re itionoul p• en assaeT borne, und our Sov ere ign, which is n nd most fitithr(4 services g.rat for ho- r u eful tewart he V.- lee-Adir o al WaS pl ease d t o va e ile reply Almber s ,if his Majesty's Council, the trod other Inhabitant, of Halifax. li'dVe to request you vill re tnanks for the SenNe you have been 'teas of my attekion to my official entrusted with the earn of his 4,ralrori oti this St • effects may have arisen frOm its he attributed to the zeal and fott i , L MAPins with w i iput it has been my it. ( , ) ,,`'e to sei Ye, seconded b the exertions t 7 l l e(l's rind people.y tv,itertiirnre you, i.ientlemen, I shall always tttp , Y , the m any attentions, that you have itti t h_ ca llectively and iodividaally• "v• 'rmest wishes for your prosperity, ' , I have the honour to be, `, Ciuntlemen, " r most obedi en t humble servant, SAWYER. INDIA TRADE:: • „ . 'Ports iu. Enkland, Scotland, anti'. an opportunity of instruct preidous, •to the discussions on Propositions, it is presumed to them to petition the Legista ,y Ltill which may, he hroUght in on Indeed the most regular and par lose would be; not to hear Conn'el !solutions, but against the Bill when !'iris course- will afford an, opportu-' various interests to be heard,against it which partiehhirly of them., rood the ship-hhilders and ship (ion, and of the Out-Torts, intend further encouragement of d that in future they may not be itisb registry. 'When. the accounts en moved for on this subject are extent of the evil will be seen e'very maneenvre will be practised owners who have hitherto been too exertimis they have made. It `0 be hoped, the old interest s of - the "t be neglected, but; 'That the Earl i "flueirced by th e p r i nc i p l es w hi c h rathe r so ably advocated, will ex the proteetion which at the present so• ,pecubarly stand in need of. nod i ', 41 , 3t e1i to state, for theinforrnittioa " I "t the Eagle Imuranee Comp.my, iii. s,fiit t ttinhin e the advantages of evy 'lli4s „'„,lhe'3l<les the payment of Itent er of tiek.'''lNt)' i--' by Fire, have opened an i?lVie'' in the firtywarket, where the hnsi titell 4111 Life Imuranee \t ill tie conducted 711 w 1 )tr al ten f ' .l. 'v it it us, tun' with the swot. au 1,,,, tit' etch ' 4. ot thltir principal °Mee in 14 t1 .' t 'et tii ..' vini et . Pllior at Latiyday should be re -4 1 lifteit days. IMPERIAL HOUSE OF 'T.4ORDS, FRIDAY, MISCELLAN'. , .Oi7S. The Scots Appeal Cause, the Bank of Sciitland v Watson, being taken into final consideration, the LORD CHANCELLOR delivered his opinion thereon at some length, und concluded by 'tidying, to reverse the. judgment' of thc . Court of Session., which was ordered accordingly. • . Their Lordships' judgment on the • Scots tartse of Wight v. Dickson was postponed till Monday. The gritish and Irish Sugar Exportation Draw back Bills, the Waste Silk •Drawback, the Arti ficers Wages, Were brought up from the COM !DOHS, by Mr. Lbs . niNoTwa, and other Members, anti severally read a first time. . The Local Milftia Amendment 13ills were re turned from the Commons, with the acquiescence of that [louse in the Amendments made -to the same by their Lordships. `The cOnsideration of chambellaynes Divorce Bill being resumed, Mr. NOLAN appeared -at the liar, fis Comisel for the Bill, and several witnesses were examined this was chiefly in the view •of establishing the fact Of the adulterous intercourse between Mrs. Chamberlavne and her paramour (a Mr. Browbeat') This appearing to be ade quately proved, and the necessary facts of the marriage, &c. being given in evidence, their Lordships gave the Bill a second reading, and or • tiered it to be committed. Lord WALsiNGnAra presented a Petition from The Dyers employed in the service of the East Company, praying that tl►e trade to India an l Cliina might be confined, as heretofore to the Port of L' which was ordered to lie on the table. The Bills upiin the table, chiefly private, being forwarded in thcir respective stages, the House then adjuurnedtill 'Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS, FRIDAY ) MUCH 26. AVOTHECARIES' 11 ML. I%lr. CALCRArT stated, that it , was his intention to withdraw this Bill: He.-4 d, that the object of it was to ware to persons of that profession {Apothecaries) a degree of respectability, and to put them in a situation more • important than,they had ever before been. This' was to have been done, by authorising them to mai:L. charges for visits to patients, They bad beea under great difficulty far want of some eon3tituted aikthority to give the measure its Sanction and assistance;. Vie 'Royal College of Physicians and SurgeonS having both, and he thought most unjustly, re fused to render any asiistance. Another eircurn atance which operated against the measure was, that they had included in it the respectable body t it Chemists and Druggists, who ought to have stood upon their omn separate merits. Under these circuostanceS, as it was thought advisable to suspend the Bill for the present Seision, he moved, that the Apothecaries' Bill, instead of being read a second time then, should be read a second time on that clay six Mouths. Agreed to. • AlltS4ltitE Er.tunON cONnuTIT.F.. Ge►ieral MAITLA/ID brought in tht Report of the Comniittee - appointed to consider the Petition, complaining, of an undue return for the County of Air. It stated, that the Committee had de termined, that the,Sitting Members h►►d been duly elected, but that the Petition 'was not frivolous nor vcx4ticitts.• ADDVESS OF CO'NDOLENV. Dlrd GEORGE ilEnt.sFonn stated, that he had waited. on his Royal Highness ,the Prince Rege►►,t with the Address of Condolence upo►)' the death of the Duchess of Brunswick,. Which his Royal Highness had been pleased to receive, and had returned the following gracious answer : I thank you for yOur dutiful and loyal ;kildre:74 j and I receive .he•condolencc of the Utilise of Coaltuont, on the re cent los3 'which I have suotained, as an acceptable proof of attachment to myself and family." The Exchequer Bills Bill for 5,000,000/. went through a Committee of the whole House.' Report to-morrow. . The Exchequer Bills Bill for raising 1,500,000/. went through a Committee.. Report to-morrow. ,The Corn Exportation Bill, and the Car , ada Rain Bill, were read a third time and passed. The Toil Manure Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Thursday next. On the motion of, Mr. Alderman ATKINS,. it was ordered that the Speaker should not issue A new writ for the election of a Mciplier to serve for . Weymouth; until that day fortnight. The Iri;;It Road Bill which stood for the 29th instant was postponed till the (ith of April. The third readiog of the Kilmainharri Hospital Till was postponed till Thursday next. FINANCE. tin tl►e motion that Mr. LUSIIINGTON 4 shotthI bring up. the Report of the Committee of Finance, • Mr. BAttmo thought that the Report should be postponed till next year, because, by that time, the House would have time to deliberate upon the plan at greater leisure. He hoped that the Right Hon. Gentleman who brought it forward would not only agree to tats, only on► count•of the import ance of the plan itself, but because the subject Wa.S one which required the most serious attention of the House. It had. been customary on every former occasion previous to the adoption or dis cussion of any such plan, to have an inquiry histi tntet.d into the state of the Finance ; but on this year, without any such inquiry, they were about to hurry through a plan which would encro'ich npon the Sinking Fund, which had always been npon us sacred. i llose could not forbear expressing a hope that the plan would - :lot be deferred. lie denied that the plan was breaking in upon the Sinking Fund. The principle of the plan then in exist ence was, that the c'e'nt should be redeemed in 43 years ; but although the plan would provide for the-redemption of the debt in a shorter period, it certainly, would not be said that the new plan broke inmpon the principle which was the founda lion of Ow, existing System. Another plan had been propoSed by an lion. Gentleman (Mr. Hits. iaisson), tint it Was one, which would be so doubt ful in its operation, that nobody would hesitate btqween the adoption of it' and the other proposed by hi Right Ilan: Friend. The advantages• at tending the plan of. his Right Hon. Friend were, that it \runic! Nino e the fleetn:s4y of a great poi.- ti(Ml of taxes, while it would go to the gradual re duction of the debr,= and would redeem the debt more speedily than the existlug sy s t e m, Ht eon _ citified with declaring, that it was his opinion that great injury would result iron' . deterring the plan. Mr. HtfstussoN complained that he had been mistaken by a Right Hon. Gentleman on the night bef.ore, and as the Right Hon. Gentleman who had jest sat down seemed to be muter the same . mist:ike with regard to the plan -which he (Mr. II.) had proposed, he thought it proper to set him self right with the House. His plan was, that tie charge cf the loan ()tithe year might be taken from the Sinking Punt!, but that it should be repaid .by the war taxes.. The principle on which he went was,. that pending the war it was not politic to touch Apon the Sinking. Fund ; but that when peace came the Sinking Fund might be modified so as to mist the expences of the year. It could not beohjected to his plan, that it did not provide for the increase of the debt. The only point in which he and his Right Hon. Friend, did not. agree was, about the propriety of incroachiug upon the'Sink . .. ing .Mind.. Mr Rost and. Mr. ..HusKissox mutually ex plained. Mr. GRENFELL approved of the plan, and he thought that the public in general did so likewise ; becauSe, since it had been ioagitation, the Stocks had suffered no depression ; and no apprehen,ion had been expressed upon•the 'Change, that any bad consequences would. result front the adoption Of it. Mr. JouN SMITn spoke at some Ten.gth in liivOur • of the 'plan. • Sir. R. renliz. approvell of the plan upon the .• sainegrountis witlithe flonourahleGentleinan who spoke last. • • "Air. - 11Ammrits oppose' tbe.plau. 11111'. HAWTHORN sup:p - orted it. - Mr. LUBBOCK. thought that at some time ad vantage was to be taken of the Sinking' Fund, but that it wag Ilaugerims to touch it in the time of .war. He opposed the plan,: beeause he thought it would be a br-eaeli of pubic faith, and besides It was opposed by the authority of Mr. Pitt. . • ---- Thequestion being put, the Reportwas ordered to be hrOught up without opposition. On the - motion that the report 'be read, Mr. .13Ar2iio, after some animadversions upon the proposed new plan, Suitt, that if the Sinking Fund was touched, it would be of Ijo 'mote avail than the mock Sinking Fund of ; and its existence would be merely nominal, If Measure should be adopted, all public faith would be ut an end. Lord CAsTLEREACM could not miter the decla rations 'which had been made by tl:c Hon. Gen-. tlenian to pass . without declaring. the greatness of his indignation that such expressions have been applied by any Member of the House of Corniuou to the plan of his Right Hon. Friend. He was not afraid to let the Measure rest on the judgment of the people . of England ; for he knew that theyuever would countenance any Measure which was a breach of public faith, neither could he admit that all public faith would be put un end to, because the mind of the Hon. tienthnnan was SO distorted as to view the proposed plan with hostility. Mr. TtEnNEV said, thtit whether his mind was distorted or ;lot, he took exactly the same view of the new plait as had o ray doneby his Honourable . Friend ; and, he roottmded, that, if the mea'surc was carried * , and an eucroachment allowed to be made upon dm,: Sinking Furid.. the• Sinking Fund of Great Britain would be no better than that of litiormparte. Ile thought that the Noble Lord might have well spared the warmth of indignation with which he had remarked upon the expressions of his Hon. Friend. He was happy that his Hon. Friend had faced the proposed plan with his au thority ;, but he had even done more, anti, • what was better, for ho had opposed it 'with argunients. He (Mr. Tierney), . who was no iu:thority, did also oppose the measure, and be did so, because he was convinced of the bad elfeets which would . "result from its adoption: Moreover, he would declare, with his Honourable Friend, that if the plan was 'adopted, • public faith would be broken. Every Gentleman who had spo ken' on the sUbject, was entitled, to use such expressions • as these which had been uttered by his lion Friend, As to what bad been said about. tbe change which would . , take place after a certain number of years; it was to be re collected that the public creditor woold look only to'llme.effeet which the measure wonld have on the loan in - which immediately eon cerned,•without caring for what iVaS to happen after the lapse, of a certain number of years, and when he might possibly not have any concern in the loan.' It was therefore absurd, when talking of how, the measure would affect the public cre ditor, to say that this or that would happen after a certain period bad' elapsed. As if it would be said, when it was proposed to make a person go 200'miles hourS, yousliallto Granth,tm in the waggon, andl - rom thence to-York upon a race horse." •" Oh ! but," the 'person would reply, " I only wilt to go to Grantham :" certainly a person in that situation would derive no benefit front the expedition with which the latter peer of thejourney was to be performed, :It was just so with regard to the'effect which the propo,;ed plan would have upon the public creditor. f lie•ltight •Hou. Gentleman then went on to stay, that he sure that if Mr. Pitt was alive, he would ob ject .to the plan. Ile hail no doubt that Mr. Pitt was latterly inimical to time plan of 1802, although lie had at first Supported it. He then observed, that t here were t hree perkons of tint Treasuryfiencli, velms e assertions relative to the roposed meat sure were at variance. He said,. that the argu ment which one Hon. Member bad brought for ward in defence - of the measure was Very extra 7 ordinary. h was, that although it was known upon 'Change that the ,plati propOsed . was in agitation, stocks had not experienced any depression. He contended that it was impossible to adduce this'a's a legitimate argunient hrfavour'of tae systeiefpro posed, because the circumstance of the stoek.4-;iot having been depressed, was uwiug to the. confi dence which the sib:l-jobbers ha 4 in the e . ,00d sense of Parliament; they being sure that the pro: posed plan Weald not be carried. The CrrANcELLort of the I',NCIUEQUI. a thought that the Rie;lit Hon. Gentleman who slioke lust had oppose' the plan upon extraordinai y ground:. When that Right lion. Gentleman lout colOpared the measure proposed by Government wi:h the state of the. Sinking I. 4 und in fyance,le taippo , sed that the Right lIoIJ. Ge.ntleman was availing Win self of same of the obseri'ations whiCh he hod made in hi; speeches'on the Plan of 183'2. Ile again asserted, eiat the principle upon ‘vhich the proposed plan 'went. Was not what it had k:en said to be by the Iti L . , ht. Pon. Gentleman, but, upon the principles of sueces:dve redemption.-- 7 The plan not only made provision far the extinc tion of the debt in 10 - 11 . y-five years, but for . the •redemption of . the debt in a period shorter than it could be by the lulu .nosy ein existene. Mr. r4t. proposed what was exactly equivalent to th'it now prooosed in so far as it re,;pected the P ; and no man, lie believed, vould be fui— ther than Mr.. Pitt, from any thing that could construed into any breach of public faith. Right UOtlolirable Gentleman onpo,;ite (Mr'. Ticy .ney) observed, that, as,yet, r.o effect 4.1.,)0t rmeasure was visible upon the stoeks, and that the 'reason was, because the stockholders did. not ex pecothe measure would be carried into effect. If any injury to that interest .was likely to take Mace, it would take place now, c; lien the stock - holders saw that:the measure was at least like:y to be tarried into effect. N',•:th. respect to the proposal of the lion. Gentleman ,Mr. /laving) that thQ measure Ootild he deferred (or twelve months longer : tii!s proposition happily united in it oil the inconveniences both of adoption ;:ini rejection. If the sto ckholder expected that the measure was to be carried into etfect in the courie of twelve 'months, the same depression in the stocks would follow, as if it were immediately to. take place, and, by pcntponement; • they were likely to low a great propontionoftheadVantages that would follow from itsirinnediate After their fears bad .been worked upon far twelve months, he did not see that it could give. rist tort any increase ofeonfidence. . . Mr. ROSE explained. He never said that it Was, the. principle of Mt. Pitt to pay off the debt in any Way Within forty.tfve Tears. He merely stated that this was his own principle. lie did not con tradict his ilon. Friend (Mr. Huskisson) in' hid assertion, that it was the wish of Mr. Pitt to co;`- fine the expenditure within the inet;me. lle nierdy that Mt:Pitt had by him a loose pa per with a statement of taxes that may be imposed to the aulount of about 7,000,0001. Mr. GjtENVILLE explained. Mr. LONG explained. He did riot assert that the plan was founded in the necessity there wat of nyrildin' t • any new taxes. fie mercly said, that new taxes could not •he discreetly imposed, and that their probable effect would be to render the old less producti le had good - reaon In know the opinion 4..4 Mr. Pitt, and be believed it was not in contradiction' to the present plan, ,with spect to, the mode of redeeming the debt v 45 years. This opnearad,:- he thought, front the s.peedli delivered by Mr. Pitt in 102, There %vas not the least reason .to siipposo that he had changed his opinion: • Mr. Tirirtuuv explained. M- DARING insisted upon. the advantage of putting off the plan for a year. longer. 'The Amendments were then negatived without diviSion, and the Report brought up. The lie. solutions were then read and agreeti to, and a Bill ordered tti be hro'tgbt in accordingly. The cond reading of the. Bill, it was intimated by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, would be on Fri day net. Mr. It. Ttion,iirou presented a Petition from the merchants trading to the Bast Indies, desiring that evidence may be heard at the Bar of the House of Commons respecting tln trade to that country. Evidence was accordingly orderedlo attend at the liar on Tuesday next. Mr. FINLAY moved for returns of all pplica tions made to the East India Copatiy,.for the purposes of private trade, from 1802.t0 1813. Agreed to. .It I- AIN gret4Dly to no i ce I'll obtained leas re6ich was read an " A Bill to ene t ati , action of the or the Ports of th „ ir 141 by the Sena ;out °ta of the United tabled, that if found withi n tl jurisdiction of elit war with _s coning as car ' ' %hall be lowfi manner . Mims tliall remain 411 States, to t'Aarmed vessel kf:• es, aubniar tynnehine w h o Of. ,ithcvaltte of ti Cgt lotroyed and t !Ist' 14 eflrgo, tiV:kl . the treniur or personh °g..thau by the ; :•tlhaited Stott ° OTOAr I 4 ` t the N avy o cocos'tit; :48 the or l ions bililditt ! e clu4 authorise t 'to t ti Major -Glen ced tL ‘raty of th q,..!raletila t th e B 1 lt ojrd tot hoinb 111 A ' 411 t a t .10 • N( r the foli o , L., tiewing A Satßrittvyßtt 4 1 1 , • pp!'ZPrn; 11.4'stit uu grol. his a. ttie qtuer inhabit . to depart Iron .•'o,,,,lesarNfactio ce unntiand of ,„itttation: , Iolit 146. ,1 .114 Nr'llte 441 ut c. s "irancree of • "41e b een tlt,ro 4..l.lActre.ttektio 11ti it is noI V to your Ic Arttil ig the ('ll'o, the utiprovo periceit by th ;43k:sty's soh (lly tnanif arid the 1 i , :qp.s of the eto lilt sentirue we wish ° opprob at i ou Os hi g he st nmi - unit e ' fitii 11 t h e ir 1'41%4.. g r"P : , 0 urio) .o„han,s 1„ slltA l O s : . 4 ; ii!r the 0 • e 4 to expresl file ttri jor q i the 11 '411 °4l-p a iti‘ 14c r Ivill „, "I' lel l 'lt', 4 lCelit o pto 4 11/ 4sT Ltita „etli: s t„ I t 0,;„ inSfr' n ~t, _, an , ,Yeti. Ject ~till' t 4i , • 1 if ' l 'qt n Y coif i , •, 1 ,. li ii°l 'e I N t I * ne 4 IC 1. li kil n' 1 1 10 . 11 , -, it il l'i l.. tile v i 0 114'1 h7 s (If iK. : '4 et t rs t c , ktirlifl h t Lott c. k 14 ,, i i i the '.; V' tH lCl lll ' 11 qti t() )1 1 i r t l t 14 4ve , . LI ..t., ik ti , the 10 4 . 11 1 :istii, i' n " g ° tl ~ i ty wlt : tc ‘,, I," . , l`ltNt o 1 ,11 .: 1- 1 4 4 1, '"', :: t c , ( )ble Pl :i ''': _hint ti4ro t a' l ire tti Y h ,et II e i i kre G li lit , bl; lle tet . a ' ,4. t , Q, (~ii'4,, 011,4., filt, SHOP LIFTERS BILL. On the Order of day being moved for the 34 reading of the Shop Litters'llill: The. ArrORNMC-GENERAL opposed it on:the ground that it was contrary to the opinion of rill persons conversant in the criminal law cf the country . ; and contrary also to the opinion o f the twelve Judges, and that as the capital offence operated in terrorem, it would not he fit to remoye it. In the instance in which capital punisinntrit had been removed, that'o(priv - ntely stealing-Prom the . persmi, it had produced the contrary ef fect to that intended, for the crime had greatly increased. Air. AnructioNttly supported the Bill Mr. WETHEIIILL said; that in the instance in Mall capital punishment was withdrawn, that of privAtely stealing from the person, the crime hut increased., that therefore experience was against the measure, aid he must oppose it. • ' Mr. STEPHEN supported the 13ili at some length. With respect to the probable operation of the Bill, it was only matter of speculatfun with theitulges as well as themselves, fie was as great an enemy to-innovation in the abstract as any otk:r man, but be thought this Bill only went to bring hatelt the old criminal law of the country. Rerjeantilmsr opposed the Bilk Ile hoped the. House would panse before the entertained such a p ro p os iti on . at' the law, in any inStUnCe WaS defeethe in theory, as it was found so admirable in practice, he could not think it ought to be it t. tered, . . . B Dc T I i;I Z I E E N N so e N s Nl)l iok ' e strongly : iied. in favour of the BM. Sir FIMDERIcK FLOOD contended, that tat punishments annexed to comparatively su4ut!• offences, furnished an encouragement to commit them, rather than a diseouragement, and expressed himself decidedly in favour of the Bill. Mr. FIIANKLAND opposed the Bill on the prin ciple that the power of inflicting the heitviest pc