The Sun. — London, England, 1802-11-24 00:00:00

gtee, recruiting; sod therefOte, under all the cir cumstances, Peace, if made with honour, it would have been wise I t o make, even on terms Less advan tageous than might have been expeded at the first Year of a War—but this did not ap p ly, exclusive ly, to this Country, it was applicable to the whole Continent of Europe, which consequently required rertruiiing, to give a chance of success in the con test, an objed deserving great regard. He was certainly one of the last men in the House, or in this Country, on this subje6l, or on any other, to hold out desponding. language. He thought he had a manifestation of public sentiment upon this occa sion, as upon other occasions, which proved that if a renewal of hostilities became inevitable, however desirable Peace might .be, yet the spirit of the Peo_ ple would be,fully equal to the contest. With re gard to the allusion of his Right Hon. Friend to a sup : posed transaction by which the honour of this Coun try was committed and forfeited, he could freely say, that no step whatever had been taken which committed or forfeited the Honour of this Country. What steps had been taken by the Government of this Country, it would be improper for him to dis close ; but it would be an extraordinary proposi tion to entertain, that we never were to bring on the discussion with a Foreign Government on any point, if we were not afterwards to state that unless it was conceded to you, you would go to War. He would correet the statement cf:his R.t :ion. Friend on another point, for he seemed to have gone upon an idea; that the resistance of Switzerland was in itigarell by this Country, or that after the com mencement of that resistance that His,! Majesty's Government did interfere and held out encourage. ment to that resistance. He thought it important to say, that no part of this event was instigated by the Government of this Country ; not only that the resistance was not instigated in that case, but also, that no encouragement whatever, after its commence ment, was given by this Country. The two other Honourable Gentlemen who spoke early in this de bate, seemed to look at the present situation of Eu rope with some dissatisfaCtion. They had stated • that some events had taken place which might have been foreseen, and they seemed to distrust, in some resped, the. Firmness and Sufficiency - of His Ma jesty's present Ministers to c on d u 't the Affairs of the country at the present crisis; and they accom _larded- this observation with a reference in particu lar to the Abilities of . a Right Hon. Gentleman, (Mt; . hir) who was prevented by indisposition fro m bein g in his place in the House this day—" In t'evely thing they could say," c o n ti n u e d hi s L or d_ -- Ail), " with reference to the abilities and the ser vices he has performed to his Country, they tvill find -no penstoi more ready than myself to agree with • theM.—lc is impossible for me to let this subjeet pass over entirely in silence, especially after what has been said by my Right Hon. Friend who spoke last.--4 certainly approve of the measures of that 1 Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. PITT)---I have proved it by voting for them ; but it is not always in the '. power of the greatest abilities to command success. I think I may say that the events which happened towards the close of that Administration is a proof of that observation, and, therefore, I felt the more surprized, as I ebelieve the House did, when my 1 Right Hon. Friend (Mr. CAtiNING) stated-circum stances as if the condition of this Country was, at 1 the time of the close of that Administration, the most flourishing, the most prosperous, the best cal- , culnted for the continuance of War, or for the mak_ iota of Peace, that was ever known- a -Such as any 1 en.s eto ,o the most ambitious temper fbr applause would w itit to Come in at the head of Go vern roent ; as a state' in which it was of all conditions, the most easy to condo& our affairs--With regard to that event, I know that no motive did actuate I him (Mr. PITT), in quitting - Government, b ut a .sense of what he thought a superior duty—a matter of opinion on a great and important question ; but is it possible to forget, what was the state of events at the:. time ? Does my Right Hon. Friend recoi led the State of this Country then—with a great Combination of almost all Europe against us, with the exception of the Cabinet of Vienna to be sure, but which could not support us, so retoth as by words ? Does he recoiled, the great dismay felt as to ' various events, when myself, and those with whom I have the honour of ading, succeeded to that Administration ? I will not follow the Right Hon. Gentleman through ' the particulars he has stated, many of which are compleat in my mind in point of fad—l allude to the Question with the Northern Powers, which led to the Battle of Copenhagen. It is well known, that other Powers were strongly attached, to what was called, the Neutral Code— and even after the Battle of Copenhagen,. and the death of the Emperor Paul, no p o i nt cou ld be at tended with more difficulty than that question was. I am sure I can say, that tio point since I have had the honour of a seat in the Cabinet, has been attend. td with more difficulty than was that very point. With regard to another event brought forward by my Right Hon. Friend, I mean the Expedition to Egypt, I will venture to affirm, that no man ever applauded that Expedition more than I did, -et Who. thonks, that under all the.circumstanees, it was not the wisest disposition that could be made of our Force at the time ; but to . state it as my Hon. Friend has done, as one in which the event - was certain, considering the comparative Force of the French, the difficulties which our Force had to encounter, and the whole of the detail of that Expedition, is what I own astonishes me. I know that every War and every Expedition in War, implies a great portion of risk, and that in moral certainties in such cases, we do not mean absolute and physical certainties.---I be- lieve this Expedition was the best mode in which the Country could, at that period, have employed that Foece. I believe too, that the event contributed to ;the establishment of Peace. But if my Right I-160. Friend consults the Milita r y Offic ers emp l o y e d in that Expedition, .who are most unquestionably heSt able to give him correct information upon it, . he will find it was not at the commences tnent of the present Administration an event that had any certainty about it. My Right Hon. Friend made an allusion to a passage in the King's Speech, and in the Address commented upon by.the Hon. Gentleman opposite to me (Mr. Fox), in which my Right Hon. Friend seemed to consider that the assent given to the observation of that Hon. Gentleman, by us, implied that we agreed with him on the sub- 1 ' jeet of the Peace Establishment of this Country— our assent on that occasion, was, undoubtedly ! to The explanation . of that Honourable Gentletaan, in that particular ; for he stated that all the Address went to, was to concur in all Measures necessary for the Interest of the Country.—The Hon. Gen. tleman opposite to him, had said that, in his opi nion, that would be best supported by a small Peace . Establishment, but that other individuals had other opinions upon that subjea, and it would be time enough to discuss the amount of the Establishment, when it came to be proposed, and it was a point on which difference of opinion was likely to arise ; and it was only to the expression of that sentiment that any assent was given by . Ministers. But.' have no difficulty in stating it as rtiV'liks , n opinion, that in the present state , of the Continent, it is impossible that the Peace afablAhtrient iinhis Country, should. far exceed What if iiSnalfy Was; and that if doubts could have been erithtainOonn that subjetia events which have happened Ante the Definitive s Treaty, have decided that question. One word to another part of my Rt. Hon. Friend's Speech, and which was also alluded to by the two Hon.'Gentlemen who followed the Mover and Seconder of this Address, namely— the state in which this Country now is as tesNaval and Military Force. They seemed to think that our Military Force has been imprudently disband ' ed, and our Fleets dismantled; but the truth of that matter is, that there never was before this time, the first year of a Peace, when the Peace Establish ment of this Country was any thing like so consi. derable as it is now, and . particularly the Navy— nor was there ever a period in which the I.:lvy of France was 56 reduced, My Right Hon. Friend states, that what he looks to, is not the State or Condition of the Terms of Peace between the two Countries, but the Animus. If we look to the Animus adone, and were - not , to have Peace until we were sa tisfied upon that particular, I am afraid we never should have had Peace at all, either from the.-Mo narchy of France or froM its present Government. I think it is manifest from the terms of the three last Treaties of Peace we have • concluded with France, compared with their'COndu6l, that at the very time of signing, they meditated a breach of them—The Animus is therefore out of the case, and if we staid until we were satisfied on the mind and. intention of France towards us being pacific, what ever opportunity might occur to favour hostility, we should continue at War for ever.—An Hon. Gentleman spoke in the course ,of this debate as if he had some doubts respeaing a the prosperous state of our commerce : die is conneded with a part of our Country deeply. concerned in that matter, but when accounts came, to be laid before the ' House upon that su bjel, I am confident the information which they will afford will be per. fes=tly satisfaaory to that Honourable Gentleman, as well as the House and- the Public, and will prove, that nothing which has hitherto been advanced in favour of the State of our Commerce, has been with. out foundation. To preserve Peace, and to give to the Country an opportunity to improve its great Resources, both has been, and will be, the policy of His Majesty's Ministers : but they cannot look to the events which have lately happened, without cal ling on this House and on the, Country, equa9y entertain a spirit of watchfulness on the State of Europe, and to be prepared for the alternative. Our policy has been, and will be, to resist unjust demands made by any Foreign Power. The stand must be made in the first instance, and to preserve Peace as long as we can, consistently with that po licy, and with a due attention to the circumstances of Europe, is the objet of His Majesty's Ministers. Undoubtedly, the situation of Europe, whatever may be.ascribed to particular persons, has fundamentally changed, even in principle, by an extraordinary Re volution which has taken place in so considerable a part of this world; a Revolution which, although it may have ceased in some respe6.ls in its original spot, could not have ceased to affect other Powers, and that must be subje& of regret to every Lover of his Country.—But it is not always in our power to re dress what we feel to be a grievance. I trust the condut of His Majesty's Government will be such as to satisfy the Country ; and as they are govern ed by no principle now, but that which governed them at the time of agreeing to the Peace, they will continue to maintain „the Honour and the Interest of the Country, by preserving. ; that.. Principle, which has always been held in the.grea l test esteem among us by the most enlightened ,aod a ardent Lovers of its Welfare. Mr. WINDHAM said, that at this awful crisis, in the midst of our present difficult situation, and on the first day of die Session, and when the fate of the Country was approaching, if the Address proposed, spoke the sentiments of the Country, he could not help considering it as unfortunate; but more so, however men might differ in principles, if it expressed the sentiments of the House, for then it would he lost to its own principles and its own feelings. Gentlemen seemed willing to represent the present Government of France as a ship in stays, I' there is no danger, (say they), she will not run foul of you ;" but let them nor forget that this which was represented as the, most stupendous monument of human wisdom, might in its. ;Ali spread ruin all aroundit. • One Hon. Gentleman said " it is as innocent a thing as possible—let it alone— it is one of those animals that will be made. worse by ill usage." Yet could he forget, that while thus let alone it had conquered his friend the Kixo of ETautt tA ? His view of danger was this.— He should be glad to know what reason there was to think that France would go on so harmless ? Had . it no power of doing mischief, no disposition to enter into another contest ? The surrounding coun. tries were seen to fall, one by one, couriers and messengeis were arriving constantly, and the news of one day did only " mock the speaker." Great Britain at this . moment, in his apprehension, should feel itself on the point of 'ikpiration—its ruin was at hand ; and were We. 'isltia Mite reason why he thought so, he consideritrk akihore fair to retort the question, and (kilittlid ol'bilkers why he should think the contrary ? ° .!Ofilieselifanches which were affectedly said to compose thei':imily of Europe,only four or five remained, - and how were they situated ? Prussia may be said at present to retain a degree of Independence; but France spread itself in all di_ rations. Spain, Portugal, • Geneva, Genoa, %vit. zerland, and the' whole of Italy, were absolutely gone. Austria saw the Enemy advancing on all sides, and dated not stir even for her own preservation. Could it then be said that there was really no danger when the German League Was totally dis. solved ? In such a state it would be absurd to argue from the force of numbers, as it was the quality of infection and pestilence to grow stronger, and ac quire more power, the more they have destr4r ed. Why not shew to other Powers, by our own. example, the reasons why they also should pre pare ? If France had destroyed so much already,' how much more may she not destroy in an equal portion of time ? That nation must go on in a com pound proportion as the one increases and the other diminishes. There were scarcely at present any means of resisting it. It possessed a double power, arid could not, in an ordinary way, be restored to its gravity. Should it goon at the satne rate that it did for the lait three months, Peace could not be the means ofyittflog a stop to its career. It had not hithefto Ih4 - 'effect of in the least checking it. Duritiethitrin • teial, in the winter season, and in the miclst . of:thiliirg blasts, it still continued to increase.' was an argument which he consi dered himself authorised to press by induction from the past to the future. Let them look to the map, and geographically observe how great a portion of habitable Europe was already in the hands of France. Russia indeed occupied a large portion, in space and population ; but France, by its influence and exten sion, was enabled to make use of a population of fifty or sixty millions. Formerly, with a popu lation of twenty-four millions, it was often enabled to over-run vast tracts of territory, even when there was an opposing twenty-four millions to counteraa it; but at the present period there was no balance to oppose to it. The Russian Empire ran to a vast extent at the back of Asia, but the peoule who corn.; posed the general mass of the inhabitants were lisped, uncivilized, rude and barbarous. • Was that the situation of France with respect to its inhabit ants, and did we perceive no danger ? For his part, he must say in the words of SH AK ESP EARE.--7 6, When now I think you can behold such sights, " And keep the natural ruby of your cheek, •' " When mane is blanched with tear." But even in this point of view, the strength of the picture was not so great as it must appear on hearing the arguments brought forward to console us. The theory of Peace was, reduCtion of expense, and commercial prosperity ; and it was contended, that the operation of both these causes - would put us in a better situation to contend with Fiance. France was at this moment proceeding in the . manner df Engineers, - encroachin4 on our lines of operation and coniinunieation. I ranee may say to us "wC are the Ilk form the garrison of this citadel—we -Ail trade with Holland, America, and other conitne4Eial Countries, hut we are deter mined not to trade with you." The arguments of Ministers applied to traders who consulted their in. dividual and immediate interests, but not to trade itself in general—they were not those of Statesmen who ought to look prospediVely. The French system may make a deep impressiOn both on our trade and naval greatness, which must go hand in hand, mu tually assist each other, and help each other up, but which would, in the event of such an impression, help each other down with an accelerating rapidity. We should be in a very perilous state indeed by emulation in such a race. It would be like running a race against a exolf, which, if it cannot beat its adversary, is sure to turn back upon him. To de :ermine on this question, it would be right to exa. mine the effects of War and Peace. He should like to know what in this case was the rationale of Peace ? In the course of events we were obliged ultimately to have recourse to either. They assisted each other. In times of Peace we found the grounds of War. In a prosperous War we might easily make an advantageous Peace, hut we could not so easily do that, when the War may be disastrous. That he confessed to be in some respeets the case of the last War. It was successful in its operations, but by no means so in the attainment of its objects; yet it left us in a better situation than if the War had not taken place. We were successful in re ducing the Naval Power of France, though it now appeared dangerous to us, increasing at the same time in its progress and its means. We were now at issue with a Power seeking our destruftion— a •Power which had conquered, till the world nearly left us the last to be devoured. It was true, that BON AP ARTE -. Mayije - afting for his own benefit, but whether'We had - rid right to interfere in the provi sions of the'Treaq;rf Luneville or not, pr were to executeFthoie; - 'of . Arniens, our paramount . duty was to look Id. ilie" general state of Europe, France was not nos'v free, nor in a situation to counter. ad the .proceedings of its own government,, whether it sought for War, Conquest, or Aggran dizement. The Government of France may do , every thing without-being fettered by the opinions of the People, and the late addresses of the French People shewed that they, apparently at least, approVed of the condut of that Government. In. deed, the most intelligent, men who lately visited that Country, were agreed, that they no longer thought about the Rights of Men, but that the universal sentiment was the destruction of this Country, and the means of its accomplishment. 'Trade, Capital, and Commerce, appeared to be the three magic words which encbanzed the Minis. stern, and a great part of the People of this Coun try. These were dwelt upon in the rhetorical figure, called Amplification ; yet France found the means of going on without any thing like credit. Since the Preliminaries of the Treaty had been sign ed, they fitted out x 8 Ships of War, and no less than io,ooo tons of hemp had been imported there through the Baltic, all in British Vessels. There, perhaps, never was so great an Expedition fitted out in so sliort a time as that to St. Domingo ; and if the public accounts may be credited, a great rein forcement was soon to sail from the. Ports of Holland. All this was done upon exhausted means, and, what was infinitely worse, furnished, as it appeared, byßritish capital. If it was suppos'ed that . France syii'ititlitie'd to let us go on in our increasing commert4al--prdtreisi let it be remembered, that one blthlittiay destroy the whole machine. He, and those Who thianght as he did, may be branded as men of - blood, but a Surgeon may recom mend, in some desperate cases, an amputation.— This advice may be seconded by a sympathetic friend, a tender father, and affe.dionate mother ; yet upOn similar principles they may be reproached as cruel monsters, and scam: person exclaim, " There is the unnatural mother who hots the limb of her child; that barbarous, unfeeling surg'con is'in the act of Cutting it ow." In pro clueing War, Revolutions acted like those tire-works, which, in their explo,i;in in the air throw out twenty or thirty others ; and the supporters of the present' system palliate the condua of ol:r rivals, by giving to their proceedings names somewhzt in the cant and manner of yypsier. sod sirowlerc. %y:th ttlern !f , e ccurse< el 1 Hr%wayrtnit wee . • . -.._... co t. g ectlya.oskireg rho air, ta fatUggleta Vettla--fita arstii,'s % a,:e: bud importations of Hollanda or .gill--a little atreV a . g ; sinking ships at sea, to defraud the tinderwritersa. and thus, when Bonaparte sends an army to ravage an aa. pendent C.Ountry, it is conaidered as only settling their in t a d - nal disputes. He had no hesitation or fear in saylngi t h cs a o i ra ought to weigh well what ,may be own situation. t he - • War may shortly coma upon us with increased sheaths o n d ie - parr of•the Enemy, and give: us reason to regret that ‘ 4 1,...„, not begin it sooner, and thus anticipate th e , i nev itable b w o ' d , -Wllen the danger arrived, we should be obliged to W o e with such materials its we had, and on that 3000 01 L, wore powerfully called upon, not t o l e t ou t o f our, Jun i any - means yet left us for future War. Wh en there w i l' si , chance of our situation b e ing worse , we s h ou ld not gi to tate to commence hostilities ; for we were not 'authorie _.. purchase delay by the sacrifice of our best means of defenc e ' It would be doing the business of Franc; for Gentlemen to preach submission to it while they were coutending tot point of honour. it would be better if their toile and Pr' f . e , , eiple . of honour were lower, anda their pratfitie 'llig,n in , - National Honour should always be uttered With-Natioilli but terest. The War he required was nonlor coitithildnee , b for safety; and should France fall upon Us witlVali .advlt; cages on her side, safety and honour wotilat - be`ghhet and/ w become inevitable. Let them appeal to all Classes 01 t . People, even to the Jacobin s th emse l ves , if any such re , manied ; but let them. with most confidence appeal to flee facts as they appeared before them. W e h a d no w nu in,, ' diem - --we must be "hut C'a'ozr .antnuljus," and not 1 ) .; tiently submit to insults, indignities, a n d d angers , It ' look to the Addresses made to the Army of Italy, in 179 7 ,; when there was a question of invadi n g thi s C ou ntry, v .',. should find that the French were not disp ose d to treat zin as a favoured Nation. The Power d Influence ° a this Country, grew out of the Spirit of the People, . 0 ; 4 it would be the Policy, of France to cr us h it, thee. this Island may be useful to them for g row i n g . Tinibe r. or furnish a hardy Race to aflOrd Assistance in its WV.. z , r5 ,1 Suffer the Nation to speak its mind, and it would be f o '7, equal to every occasion, and if War come i n support and c- o f operation, would be certainly making th e People sensible a the extent of their own danger. It . t h e Ministers mea°2 • shear that they are willing to remedy th e mischiefs 470; "'have done, and expiate their sins, let them expand eveg e bursting, but not descent into ditiguam:// let them meet r` - Wow with spirit, ardour, and seconded by the Natural !Or e ing, and sacrifice that economy whi c h oug h t not to be I°l served at the' expellee of the Public Saf e ty. if the ext° o of the danger was fully seen , t h ere wou ld b e no okicelicalc such exertions as- had never before been thought of-o°j would not be depressed by any low-utinded appreheosiosl . He ter himself would c o nclude with t h e L isa words Mao , ' use of by thegreat Lord CH ATHA at, in the House of PeeoPeeve - -words -in themselves coarse and plain, b ut d er i v i ng grace . aL c dignityfrorn• the motives and the exal te d character ell" great man who uttered them—" Sooner than submit, r would pawn the shirt off my back." - Mr. Fox explained. Id The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, 14! cc,°" not allow opinions to go -forth uncontradicted, which, ;•'-'; those of the Right. lion. 41entleman, tended to disheieleei and discourage the Country, and which were so incettsiste n . with the actual comparative state of this Country and FP°,,,," r that he '. hoped the opinions .of the Right Hon. Gentie o ; - ":„ 4 were not entertained by many. The Right Hon. GeotlePli -had talked of His Majesty's Ministers 'expiaring a theit g / ' fences,. alluding at-the atone- time' o thPlS'eat)-'-'Bf ,Aini r c t M He (lid not stand there as an-A pologisi fdilictri shiftitlii S 'a"i , ,' leagues, and if he was a - ing ueht, heravtliarTfaidittebn(log a y - ready to justify all hehad d-me; 'and'W' untSii_pily;:cir stances should lead to - a renewal-of hiistifi lie s ,' irviinuliiP° r a 4 .fieroy thasatistaaion he felt-at theretiaikiet offile;colaPaaba himaelfand his Colleagues. The Hetn 7 sG6itlemaaba s - 01 served that if a man who died fourteen years since, t...-Oo.:, ye ia any-means be revived to a-consciousness of What was nowr, .aa 1 ing, suali:a person would hardly know the world whicil e d I had once inhabited:. No person could look . with ireatelb9;;;rl than himself on Malty of the events which had haaP c :roe within a few i years past,' but surely. the Right Hottoogai Gentleman had forgotten that the state• of France J!'"-RS, teen -years since • was calculated- to excite aPprelteitSiO a.., though certainly not in the same degree as at present:4 France at that period was not, it is true, equal in exteri;,:a ' dominion, to France -at present ; but they must be shafe, reasoners who would say, that she derived power in pr'l fion as she increased her dominions. If History was rectiri e , to, it would be found,- that no Power ii.ut attempted, sll-Y, landed, to curb the ambition of France, but first endeav 0 i • ed. to secure Allies to support her in the contest, 'f lie g . 't Hon. Gentleman had not taken the pains which he tfaati . „l t g that Right Honourable 'Gentleman would have cunt: 19:5 the subject, and lie was astonished that persons ivit` t 'v the reach of information should express themselVes ii , ,,.$ manner which the Right Hon. Gentleman had done. 'l', fad was, that the Establishment of the Army ' WAS n ; , pe more than double that of 1 7 3 4 . D ur i ng a sunilar D O after signing a Treaty of Peace, no reducti on whatever it, ,- been made in the Infantry, except with res p e ct 1.9 ( lit, bodying the Militia, and paying oft' the Invalida. a t a respect to the Navy in ta . B6, there were one hundred an of. teen Vestels in commission, whilst there were at preseP t o reff In 179415,000 Seamen were on the Est a blishm ent , then a aa now 46,000. Another point, on whicha do u bt had DeS aa lligat pressed, was respecting the increase ofour COMlTlCFCesne rb e,t , nutattureS; lie could however, assure the House, from At dle tic Documents, that a great increase had taken place. - tiast year xBO t, our Foreign Trade amounted so 23,000,0001? 'W,B g h from the sth of landau , tBot, to the sth of Januar)" ' 2 , 3 1 the Exports;/British Manutiettures amounted to 27,Se° ,°- t air With respe to the Revenue, he bad taken credit for a v or plus of 4,000,0e01. ; but the Surplus of two Quartercsi bC had proved to be ldloc.,eool. The Unfunded Debt 1 ,3 t he reduced to mOOO,OOOl. ; and by the sth of j'ainiaiy next is , 4 was every reason to believe that it woul d be farther ie_": o . to 14,000,0tp01. The Right Hon. Gentleman had des'n pot on the dangers resulting from a state of Peace; but hey 1 % - yar , shewn how our situation would be improved by a stg° j a ise 4 The Principle on which His Majesty's Ministers A ocrs the Peace was, that from the state of the Continent: d 'ip . was -no hope of those exertions which could w il o w abridge the poiver of France; it' was - therefore n u occ very, at all events, to economize o u r means,, ; id 1 ,,,aV that we might, it necessary, b e the better -able,to 10119. new exertions, and co-operate with other PoN,v,er s 4 110 more eftietoally opposing the ambiticin - of '"rattcF , . s lisf Country had closed the Contest with honour,' inescrviFerrf , Constitution, and-gaining additional acquisitions 1.4 . ., 00 4 wry ; and if a renewal of the War became necessary, it no it, be art principles diametrically opposite to those Oil N . P_'.. C. , 015 discontinuance had been justified. He conceived . t hat i 0 Country-earnestly desired Peace, but that it would not: o f desire tot Peace wish tocompromisethe National liono 11 ;.,li t h• would it suffer any desire for War to bear down its goo u r, the In that House there could he no disposition to proud p ion Country Country at the feet of France, but there seemed a diSPci',„te • to force the two Countries, by" irritating 'language, nit of hostilities. H.is Majesty's Ministers would not, b("..ider be-led away by their feelings torenevvliostilities. He or , 5 0 eel War as a dreadful evil, but dreadful as it was it wa . ' s i s , much so as Dishonour. His NOble Friend (Lord 1 - 1 1, : juit he a URI') , had entered so much at large into the subject, '' c but should not trespass farther upon the - time of the l - l i o . Al, 0' he should be always ready to state the reasons on i conducl was founded. sir 14% 14 "fie Mr. T. GREDiviLLE, Lord CASTLERtAGki, -•- ° tl .'L{ -Mt 1.3144 . 1k1C 7 assi M.f. W7IITIII-LE,CD;' 'each Opok° .tp, AP'' Question; after which it was carried without a Div"' -the Address was referred to a Committee. Adjourned at Twelve o'Clock ull To-rnorrolli THE SUN. -- SOLIM QUIS DICERS FALSUM AUDILAT ? LONDON, NOVEMBER 24,18°z* • AP ' W 1 yesterday, in a par of our Impression, gav_e ,-, 15 e ur , I Is.T s Most Gracious S p eech to both Houses of YAT 0 We were the more gratifiepd by being enabled exclusivel,Y,,e4 Five it, as those Impressions of THE SUN which CODtabilicis it, were the only Copies, of His MA J ss - r Y's SeeFFll W were sent Into the Country by the Post of yesterit i r. 3§ His MAJZsTy was received yesterday by thQr„i he passed to and from the House of Peers; .w iffit of atleeti'n And resPett , the Populace'freiluelit l y :b .at - v s Their Royal Highnesses the PRIN es of WA!. Es, 311 ` . 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