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the *aloe of phi; he (Mr. Ricardo) admitted there were, but not that produced any pernaament alterailon---nue that Guy bet a temporary effect. The 1111111 e Wall the east) with eismosoditira also. Cloth and hats, for inetsnee t might be raised is value by an increased demised; bell the rise woeld be only tesspornen fur ivies the *apple/ was again raised to lee level of theakmand, as it soots would toy au Mereaas of the manufactere, the commodities would thew fall to their former price. He would recommend to the Hon. Member to exteod his calculations over longer periods, and he would then And that as veal va ' , llium, in priteg had , Occurred its former time. as its the latest period!, • fact rather inconsistent with his rummest, that the tradatilain had been d by the alteration of the currency. He' gaud that is 1/92, -he price of wheat was 42r. per porter . ; in 1796, it was 774. ; in 1798, it was 804. ;. and is 1891, it was as hints all I I Si. The argument of the, Hun. Member supposed that the present price would br per.l mscleal but he (Mr. K.), think's, that the depreasios weal.; earn' rather by the excess of supply over the demand than' be the re-sten-lion of the cuirrary, (alarmed that it would se; and if it were nut a remunerative price it religion I)ering all the time that he had mentioned the cur rer.cy irad pradregone sesneely ary alteration. In 1800 the correnev pyre depressed, sad the price of wheat wet Our 965. per quarter. In tel.° it had risen to 116.., amid is 1814 it had fallen again to seventy.ihree shillings. 10 the prices or Oink too he found the variation to be equally grsat,snd doubtless as little outing to the at ate of the currency. lo Jangary 1901, the prier paid (or fluor at the Vietsialling rittiee at Deptford was 121 s. per wick, sod in Dreentber the same year, it was 72.. In December 1801, the price vas 925.; ip Dieeinier 1804, it was 50..; and in 1809, the I.l' Ire paid easels. per sck. C 0.., therefore, it appeared, war liable to itstroordiaary wiriositrost sad es far from such variation* being sew sod roubsied In oar own timer, or to the period of she last three year*, it was a wonderful tit cum stance in find a period of three years wit host nosey meld vari ations. The Hon.Geut, had estimated a Melo that no feelieg or false pride would prevent soy Member from acknowledg ing asp encl. into which he might have folks WI the former discussion tot this question. A. far as be (Hr. R.) was him self concerntol, a.. false p.idu should have preveutrd trim, if be had found himself io error, from arknowledearg that error; bat he bad seen so reason whatever to alter his opinion,. The Hug. hleraber bad referred to the evidence of Mr. Took before the Committee, fur the elle, a , ion that /111.1 taken plats in the prices of • variety of sellers ef rommerce. Mr. Took, it making that siatenent, mid, he could give a reason for every one tf. the alterations; and he did assign as , the -- nation of the quautrty on blunt either by • sthe received is gement of fates al the Tottery, is letler to [lord the public as muck as possible agate*t say ineon. seminar. But was these any this/ like these eiresoistarices at the presto' day? re. [Moly sot. Under those eireum. starlets it was that 1.3 w udea mitered into tbidisembsitin with Locke ; the former coattoultag that bullion had rise., whilst the latter affirmed that the currewcy had depreciated, and seder these esrathastatmo• it was proposed to slier the stand. sad (it hover having been altered before that titne)i and Locke contended that it would be unjust in site, the obanellaird; yettirat very thing which Lucke mild set up ptwve, (ruin its injustice, we bad done twoce.....(Tio Hu's . *arable Baronet here read the passage from Lockett/ which be had alluded)—.M eowthmation he v,id , the real queithos *Well the standard was, bow is the must iujortice Nke "avaided, sod the distress lightened? It would not be denied Least a great part of the debt had been contracted in the de. precluded currency, and even the Honourable Member bar Portarlington said be should hare been glad to hare fined the sierolarel at' 14s. Now that hay precisely what his Husourable Friend proposed. It mielot be "said that there had been contracts made since that time; there was the difficulty, for difficulties there uusluiditi thy were on every ride.—(Hear, bear.)—But there was mu doubt that great in justoee had already bees done, and that was now to be per.: palliated. He iiiiributed soothing to the Bill of the Right Hon. Gentleman, for all the distress was occasioned long before. The lamb was not more innocent who pleaded be fore the wolf that the grievance complained of occurred before be was bore. pal i was one of the strongeoft arguments in favour of the gerignestien of hie Honour. able Friend, the difficaltiea on' every side being ro great, it was more dearly the duty of the Howie to make inquiry, sod look the difficulties in the face. N. man could deny this injustice had been done on every hand ; lour it ill bees riosefigasisuarr who had brought the einoniry male that stale to thy, " Here we will stand, whetker we sloth or mist!" The Right Hun. Gentleman (Mr. Ilioskieson) had said that • similar injoatiee, •as to all contracts, was committed in King William'. rime; but in that be was mis. taken. All contracts were made in the legal standard, sod wool in the depreciated curreney. Ore of the great evils cum plaOursi of wee tibia making of two prices' so that till (Sir F. Iturdett) could out he miodaken on that point. Thrtie appeared a remsrkahle contrast in the conduct acing Mirsiestona and the klianotesis of that day. Onr Minister* thought only of getting money foe the purport of the oisi, and afterwards bettering themselves under the rotes of tba, House.. Me had shearer he differently King William's government bail behaved. Hiles•we had a c•rreney swelled up to 'lot millions the whale of which was degeoeseteil, not e reason inseam fresh growth; new importation., or returns from other lots. The same reasons semontid h r the varintion• I. ay, the articks to which the How Member had referred. Thal Hon. Mclntire foe Shiewabitry(ble. G. Bennet I),hail stated' s ' that it was impossible to arty to .bat eaters' the alteration the currency had'opersteeripou re.esistiog tout . lie admitted the fact; all mrialime of the currency must fir • greater or irftlifir el*, have • similar eNeell en existing Mal tracts. The alteration produced by the measure of the sea prairies suet hews operated us much upon centriseisearst i l at She thre of its sitopticn, as the Kill 1819 did it those which had' been solosereuestly entered into. Re bad hoped, after the solemn nasnwer its which the House had formed its decision. that this subject would have been allowed to rest. TM iacnovestieuee that had attended the measure of 1610 was elm fly occasioned by the unfounded . alarm that had I,ern raised through the country, of some vague and oadrfinahle danger that was to result from it. The minds of the groenhy of people were, however, be now thought, settled upon that point; the appreciation of the currency co sh! not go much further, and it imeld therefuie be r -to unsettle the - lie mind, or to shake the ▪ meal ninnies . al& P -- Basis os which the currency now reared. Mr. H. GURNEY explained. Mr. PEIRBE, in a lone of voice so low as to render his obserentionii hardly audible I. the gallery, was underotood to defeat] the condor. of the Batik from the animadversions of the Hun. Member fur Airtarhsigton (Me. Ricardo). From 1797 up to 1102, there was • arlEciency of 'Odin the coun try to answer all its (*semi, demands. At the litter period, staring the short interval of peace, the itiewwity was consi derably aegentatest by a freak supply; which continned to WIN,' the *am, purpo‘e, dorms An allaMmn totel exclusion from the ports of the Continent, op to 1810; and during that time there was cleiireciation in hi. value of the Bank paper. In 1813 the war was at Us greatest height, and the turnings Shot were sanking teemed a. unprecedented demand far gold, for Ike porperse• of nor/wigs tspentikiee, and occasioned a 14 ° 64 Pagn""41181.8 ripe is the pries of gold, which then reached its 'highest point. Ban even then he 'would maintain that the bank notes-as never depreciated in its valne se re. ferable to the standard pries of gold; nor was it possible that it ever should. Fur the Rank never had, nor could it tree force its 1116114% beyond the wants of the country; its only pourer of operating upon the quantity of the clean's. lion being by contracting eta imues. Sir F. RURDEIT then ro.a and commenced his ob servations with • warm enlogtu in upon the manliness, firm ness, sod untainted seal, w the discharge of what be eon sidered a duly i.e owed to hi+ country, which had charac terised the conduct of the lionourablv Member for Estes (Mr. Wertrru), in acting in entire disregard of what might he said of that conduct in any place or by any body, in bringing forward this subject. He W.. surprised that the lion. Member for Portarlousiou (Mt. Ricardo) should es. twain an opinion, that the speaking of the tenth, the free and ope• declaration of any mates mind, especially oldie mind of a Member of Parliament, on any subject of pnblicinterest and public importance, could have any but beneficial effactr. He deduced a very different conclusion (tote that which had been &numb, the Honourable Membet " from all the details and 'nicer he had quoted. The view' which he took of the subject was this if any portion of the circulating inedinm, say onr.Llth, for instance, be with. draws from a.. - the effect will be to red, the sp to 'TO ; the - a single note of it that was worth • families, and this dune ',Moot a stogie sound of preporatiorr-titing attired but by • sort of ecussoilscy between the Government mad the Wolf. He (Sir P.' Belden) was nut bound so say whether Iss lid or did not agree *fib any specific proposition of his Honourable Friend. He might dealt. le wait to hear the opinions of persons better informed the. bin. self, bet at the "Sale time he could DOI but declare the Country had great oblimmanos testis Hoe. Friend for having brought this vital question under discussion. Fur that she. mamma eas Mill required on it, heves satisfied from this— that the most 'tamed to sorb matters, though they allowed the existeoce of the distresses, had not made up their minds ar to the remedy. Why then should Parliament be allowed to separate without any apparent result from its labours as to Ibis great evil. sod noiltieg et all dune to alleviate the distress which the country thought woo .wish to this King'• Ministers? Some years ago the Noble Lunt used to account for the distress by the transition from war to peace, said tbe co.fidieg country Gentlemen gave credit to the assertion (and here be did not mead to blame any one for r ivio g cusfidence to those who were supposed to be well aCeresi;ted wish the subject); this confidence bad been pushed to an extent that he bad, never been heard or read of in any Minister in this country—he knew of so Minister who seemed to halve taken such liberties NI the Noble Lord, or who ap. peered to have taken so little trouble to see if the mea bleb he proposed to the limes wife Mit4lbit to the occasion. He might for proof of this appeal to the es/acetone* of the reseal Scillies, when he had no sooner proposed a measure than be, elmadoied it. When the etiontry gentlemen fouud that the transition lasted so long that it Must have passed away, and yet the effects re mained, then it was the Import of foreign corn which occa sioned the distress, and then the Coca Bill was brought for ward. He (Sir P. Burdett) thought that with respect to that measure, both the people aod the country gentlemen were deceived. He had 'bused lima as be did now, that in the present burdened state of the country a high price of corn would be advantageous. He was aware that it was unpopular &sorts', but that was his opinion. Well, the Corn Rill.passed, bad she distress, which was mill ed agricultural distress, continued, bat which, as it affected the whole country, he vroahl call general distress, and there fore it was that he looked fur the cause in something which affected the whale commumiy, and such a cause was the curenry. Afterwards came the doctrine of over production, bat thew the Report of the Agricultural Committee appear ed, and proves that there was so superabuudaut produce. It appeared by that decerneat that some years before there was an importation of 1,1410.000 quarters of fo. reign corn, and during those years the priors were high est, and that since she importation hod been stopped, she prices had lowered. These were great difficulties, but on the whole be wee of opinion that a free trade in turn would be meal advautageoes. Nothing, he thought, was more absurd thaw to suppose that the agricultural and asonufao luring interest• were not one nod the same; if so, then agri culture would flourish in proportion to the successof 111•11141 factures. if the ports were open some part of ths pope's. lion would doubtless be supp o rt ed by foreign corn: Now, though he would admit that an idle population was • great evil, yet au industrious and productive population was &obi less a • advent's , - Well, thee, - • hail ' la • • did 101• J, sehleh rePeled on IN! one ; ha W.V.". w ha t For the reasons which he bad stated, the ins** should hart latastipport. Mr. HUSK ISSON said hp had !lever stegprimpilsulthe Hon. Mem%er for Essex as terommending emu Apelloa s ereisccity, het Mist 'Belied ree onmended RT . °, the standard. The Mon. Baronet had said also that do-clipped moue', Ow to t h e recuinage in King Wiloon's time, was tort a legal tender; tee Wis so fur eight, that after the Address of that Howie rho King issued his Proclamation, sod then the coin 035 no longer a legal tender, but previous to the issuing of Rm . Proclamation it was. Sur P BURDETT implaiscil. Mr. ATWOOD said he essividrred that the whole of thir, *stern of the mkt lad bad bees occasioned by the mewileme . buveroment ; the effects of those measures were to progresi, mad that it we. the duty of the tines, to larks. 41Ww they might hest arrest it. Hecould not hot ulmereesta high tone assumed by the Ministers on the grounds 9f piddle! •ittitiee and public faith, coming as it did Goma quarter to jhich all pidilic faith had been violated.—(flear.)=lf the' 'Right Hon. Gin!. (Mr. Peel) had stated in 1819 the mecca which bad since followed; he Illowcht that is t r a ., e , wou ld 'Myer hive hero carried, which he should always dearribe sat Measure of monstrousVlVOlK and trims injustice. Flom She Report of the Agricultural Committee .4 t 313, he had before elated that at no time had there heen a higher price irf cues than 49i. 9J. per quarter. The Right Hun. Gent. had talked of the fluclii•tioof or a paper standard, but was not a metal. lie standard 41 , 2 sohjeet to floctuatious? To see what the fall of pyres had really heels be would take the year 1918. The price of corn Was then 84s. per quarter, it is now 454 ; , itoo had fallen from 132. to 82.10 J. per cwt.; soot had fallen from lc 6,1. to 12.4 J. per lb.; awil COlll,ll in the same propor limo. Thar, iu these great staple articles, it roast be admitted that if there bad hien a Nu io owe it had iekeu place is all. Ilther, therefore, the mosey had increased in value, or cosh polities had derreased. list could it be believed that all climates hail suddenly b ecome so much more predacity*? Rot they, not rather coorlaile that it was a redaction in 11. e tzlet or the money *hat, then, was the *mount of that lion. The lion. Member here rend from the retort?, kkaequantily of Beak •otes in circulation at differeat pe riods diminishing from 38,000,9901. down to 23,400,0001 Aod now he wished to make out observotiou oil the proceed fur of lb. Agricultural Committee, and be could not avoid eitosideriog it exceedingly strange that when the perverse in flator, of that Committee had lare•exercieed to investigate eaeiy cirpenestance obit* had no imatediete reference to the nose seder their consideration, should sotwithslawdmg hare cautiously kept out of slight the reduction of the amount of ~, ally country, win o. Attire tn. groat .het,, we , 400,80. .ope to be honouree] won the whole income of the productive classes of that country, bearers employed in working up this foreign lira, sad they he catered into some details, rather than into an abstruse in that proportion, or one-fifth. HOBe produce of the labour thus created a demand for other products of industry. It was discussion ' he could promise is return that he should ton al!' the productive classes in • country be 600,000,000 f., one of the inconsistesties of the Country Gentlemen against fine his observation within those limits of which the House sad a third of the circulatiag medium be withri e nca; it i s which he wished them to guard, that they should expect lo be would not complain. He should promise not to eater into a by to the productive classes of 200,000,0001. That wee rich and prosperousoad be exportingtheir produceasthe same any of those abstract topics which had been introduced by Precisely the ease with thus country, under the operation of time. What would be the effect of eacluding that foreign the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, which, however She Dill of 1819 ; and the third being withdrawn, we were corn? 1,900,900 Industrious persons would be th r own on important in thrmselres,were quite onadapted loan amenibly, still called upon to pay to the full amount all the taxes int. their perishes, and their haying nothing Os which to exert such as he had then the honour 0(2(1'11.'0.114,—(We,, hear.) posed •hen the currency was in a state of deprecis. their todissiry, the other breathes of trade whicla,.. they bad He should therefore proceed at once to the epiestios before ' boa. That he must rosiintein to be impossible to corn put in motion slackened, and then mute corn was grown them, and should endessmor to prove, that roles. • strop/ ply with, without the complete destruction of the country than was wonted; bat neither the transition from war to case of over - ruling necessity was made out, it would beds- He thooght Hist built 01(1 and justice called upon the, peace, the low prices, foreign imporlatiemor over-production fermis mud inexpeeltest to accede to the motiou proposed by Hone to relieve the count r y from that pressure under which . could ficement for the existing duties—nothing goes at all the Hon. Gentleman, It would be extremely difficult to it laboured, a n d from which, if something were not dune in far evens% to produce it bet that which his Hen. Friead concentrate all the nhjeciions which might apply to that ' , wee way, it would be impossible that it should frill , nit ileal. now brought forward, namely, the corvette, of the country, subject. On the 12th of Jnue it was that the House of With respect to the justice of the proreeiliog, V could out They were told that It was difficult todo the Wog proposed; Commons was asked (and he impeded no blame to the Hon. be denied, that during a quarter of • centuoy all the deal- undoubtedly it was; but that was a reason shy the mottos Gentleman for the period he had chosen), to appoint • Corn. tu g , of the rontelty were in a depreciated currency ;—that should be adopted. If the remedy should be a fresh issue mime to (outsider what was the operation of • certain Bill : het/realer Port of Ihe debt was incurred at that time of paper, sit Honourable Gentleman had objected that ou the commerce, manufactures, and agriculture, and the c'all the civil hiss mad every expense of Gowernenerte, and would emote • seeessity to go on adding t o it. But, on, general cuuditios of the iliffereol classes of the community. "rrs contract between mar and man, was made at that time. it was eel to be eonsideeed as • stimulus., but to place the The motion which the Hon.Gentlemas had submitted to the sso under the siortion of Government, with • view that high cirailatios in the state it was before. The Book should not House, pointed to no distinct proposition, and if he avers lowes ngtoshi stony' continue. Those Getitlemen who, up have that power (which, however respectable the individuals left to draw his toaclusious from the argamests which '"he year 181/, contended that there was nu depreciation were, no individuals ought to have) of raising or lowering the had been employed in support of the motion, be could not deny this view of the case; yet those Gen. valor of property as they pleased. It was not fit that any should feel quite at a loss to know what opinion to form, "meet now talked of the immorality and (blower of altering Individuate should have an great • trust placed in their bands, testi, be came to the speech of the Hon. Barouet, Member !to staseiseel, as if that were • matter quite sew; but they mid therefore after • maim lutrioreteon Of 'paper bad been for Westminster (bur F. Burdett.) Time or fuer Gentlemen aLI rash scruples when th e y a lt e r e d it c o mp u l s o r ily la issued, there should lima eta against any furtiteriesse; and had spoken in favour of the mono* , bet yet they stated that , 9 "? . . sod made their false standard a legal tender, art,, that would operate what the :lam. Member fur Vortarliagtom they could not vote for a grist part of the argament on which I 't'"re the Howie of Commove of that slay b•d, in a load Mould have done if the perioilliail out elapsed. He (Sir F. it was supported. But at length the Hon. Baronet stated t _, "'Y sod inconelderate manlier (in • corrupt manner, as 'l9emiett) would allow that them were great iticonvenleuce• (sad he thanked him for bisettadosr)• that the object of this candle not of doors would say), at the suggration of the Mi. ma to the e n ntracts made niece that peened, but then he did measure was to re-establish a new standard, and to lower "" "that daa, filter , ' the st•mlard of value, and brought, , not consider it was poasibts that things could go on nuder the valueuf • pound from lOs. to 14s. Then before the House ail thorn est* under which the cameos y slow banolire4 the present di ffi culties of the country. 11 . ths.lloble Marquis entered into a Committee out of which such result. were to 'cow, thie had been done was no reason why the matter , Could sot make up Ins mind as to some precise view of the arise, be implored the House to consider what would he the an t be Inquired Into. The 'Right Hun. Gentlemen. , subject he ought to throw up his situation. 1t was not slate of the mercantile and agricultural community before the ‘ . Nr, finpkis.non) had talked of tsar alleratios oetasiumed by htling that we should go on at hazard In Ibis way, so that interim could have elapsed al which the p ro p osition cou l d I """rninalte in King William's time, sheet in fact loathing nu mss knew in "ast situation we should be plated in I take effect. And, good God! with such • distinct avowal "ill he so dissimil a r as the measures of that period and the l the next Session of Pm Itament. The Manistee, thonebt before them, would the Honourable Gentle Men (Mr. At r4iwal• What were the facts ? A part of the circulating that it would come oboist in the same way the manufac. wood) tell the House that the object of the motion was to - ," ar eas the shiver rrrrrr cy, was clipped and reduced to tomer interest bad recovered, but lie (Sir Francis Burdett) calm the public mind, and re-establish th e futisidationso of . ; . ;nre- Bat acre was tour millions of gold in tat ementri did toot believe the mansfaeturing interest cies even now tranquillity?—(Cheers.)—What dependance could he picked,• NI ! "heel (sad Mihail time there arm ouly nine minium, in makiug a fair proit. Whether the remedies were diffieolt on the promise that the w o b irj e c a ct i o h f ey th w e e ro m oi l lo o u ld w b as ,f t ore osear iy i - h r :" . Lololl). Fee • lung period that good money kept up' or nut , it w as imposedile for ally tattoos' mss to my that con fi dence and peace, "'Pretested mosey, h u t whe n it was discovered, slid thy the House should not take into its rousideratios all the pus. well into the Commaittee that one of the results wool/ 121 _, "IV fib i• val•e what did King William? He ' l temised of Sim- though the new government , tbeettbasothinie •could be more fair than Itis'Hott. Friend's Look at the propoatoms •is has details, and whit would tune the depreciated money et 'httemptiag areneamera baiter.., by gold, and by flthotir. 'Tel , be the eemielierseel Tim mom (pence *mild .11M-tbatlir persona should be posembod - s lief Bstht Atm. Gem' Irnsale.(blr. Huskosiso)•hatfiltirliedi,4l the motion were carried, to.morrow !temp roily who Ad theGovernmenil twedropew be might coil it argnmetet, as if he had proposed consfor • had as stain of sense *mild embattle to *moire orbit *DM'. .I:olnnge, mud fora k i ng tidied'', the current,. Such a anode of tiepin betrayed an uncap - be could, sod all coutricis, prii ate a nd pnblic i would be at Bank antes in eircrlatios. They.bankhetere them accountant thequatittiy ofsnuff,tobaccn,canalles,Sic.consuased,whieh were imam industriously impaired intisomethen indeed the country gentlemen complained that they had been mystified. Why s. water mystification pew touk place.—(Heir.)—When the Committee were asked, what was the best made of relieving! distretsarwhich pressed as heavily on swindlers'? thky proceeded to examine the accounts of snuff, wine, and is. • hpceo. The Hun. Geetlernsti was thee proceeding to advert to the connexion between the Back •ati the Government, when Mr. WE'ITERN Interposed, but the tendency of his ob. eisvutoos we could nut collect in the gallery. Mr. ATWOOD reatimed. He stated that the counse -1 qpence of the Ball of 1119 was, that the fifty-five mi'lions of taxes raised during the war were increased to 100 millions in 'the time of pence. He could not consent to the kind of personal xrgoutent which was made no that question, ;Namely, You have opposed ibis-before, and you have sup. !ported it." TIM should be no manna why the Represents. Ives of the people should not interfere and use their hest maitre, to avert the dreadful queue?' of a measure of the most enormous iniquity to he Coodin the history of mankind. In the metropolis, in the cottage, and the most distsut districts it was all alike—the consequences were felt all over the country. We b•ee placed our hand on the most powerful string in the complicated machine of society, and we seemed ignorant of its potency and diameter.— It aas therefore the duty of the House to avail themselves of the lights which they now received, and the mines which war still in their power to effect the reversal of these dia. astrous consequences which have resulted from this measure, and to restore the peace sod trasquillity, sad almost ruined industry of the counity.—(Hear, hear.)—That House would abdicate their most important functions, ■sad abandon their most essential sloths, if they did not proceed with the in. quiry, and see what remained for them to do in order to meet the demand of justice. This tossitry was like • great metropolis, set tu • eonBsfratio• by its own Governmeor, whose duty it was, as the only mode to remedy the evil, to discover the loss which had been sustained, to ascertain the boundaries of property, and to reinstate it on the folinchl. lions of prosperity. The Honourable Member theta adverted to the period when the Bill of •1819 was passed, ■nd the :.überquetit distress which it crested, and alluded to • letter addressed by the Magistrates of Manchester to Lend Sidmouth on the /et July, 1819, which, amongst other thiugs relative to the distresses of the people, stated a that the people here are oppressed with hunger." The House was imperatively called on to institute an iugoiry, (torn thk full coimiction that in their own hands there still remained the power of relieving the distresses of the country—to open agat■ the career of prosperity which the charscler of the people ■nd their energies load directed, and which would always conduct this country safely if these energies were sot crushed and thwarted, and desorosed by the errors of Government. The House had experienced enough of pre. sumptuous confidence without beteg called spun to adopt the resolution of the Hight Hos. Gest lemon (Mr. H gammon), They should now ester upon the proposed inquiry with • fall consideration of its imporlence, •nd if they were weed aside from that path, on that step would rest all the present calamities and future dangers of the country.—(Cheerieg.) Mr. PEEL next addressed the House. He said if be could hope to be honoured with the amuse°, of the HOOK', whilst --- _, .~-,., ..... •. . . alt end —Meer, (ime.)—And at what '10.4611:1;d they *rah cot that enestion ? !toren or eight years had now elapsed snare the House had adopted measures by which it pledged itself to rehearing the ancient at.ndaid. la 1814, when both Hoaxes of Parliament had pledged ibenteelees .to . the re ' stricilush, they staled that it would be espediesit that the Book should return as soon as possible to eash payments, Poi in 1818, whet' the celebrated measure was iutroduced, a elapse was invited to the same effect. Aunt by whom was it proposed ? It was proposed by Mr' Hpreer, also said that be would ant cousent to she 9.11 unless a clause were nitro. domed (io which the House acceded), pledging the House to compel the Bank to return as ammo as possible to cash pay- Meet, —Okra', bear.)—Since 1814 the country had been eartenvourieg t. accommodate itself to th. new stale ef. things which had arises. Contracts entered .into at leillec lperiode It'd hems partially discbarg/d, and ries! Vitra after that period the lion. Baronet Mg F. Burdett) moored the House that thereat object of t'i motion now before limes was to reduce the standsri from 20s. to 141.—(Hear, hear) ' --Bet whether flys proposition might be advisable or sit, he could set see hoe it would bgeoesible to adjust the thet:•-r. it would not only affect every individual who bad *dammed leant, but every mars *bn bad pnrchased withip the last eight year% and If the Hoak sanetioped the prin. chafe whieb the Hon. Baronet bad heed the prepniftiee contained, there would iudred be end t o all,,eatroual faith, on Odell theineererity of this ountrY so mainly. de. punted. But when they came to rill wish prieske con tracts, whet would be the cansequen I It stolid not be poesible . te lay down any plan to adj them. 1 . ogld you &pie* Nee isidivideal who had been p ' ual, of the advises, tages you give the mart who bad nut fgl his rogsgemestts Not, if betoold concur with th e Hun. rustle:nen who had irstrodured ibis subject, and some of those also had sup ported hilt le the descriptions they badAiven of the state oil the enothey•Lif be good believe that the restoration of the current., bad brought destruetion urea iedustcy--i,fhe could suppose 614 It bad entailed Poverty, beggary, esti rein on the lower clasees of the parte, and was of opinitrt that them predictions which be had Iva, ti of impeadiarreip were likely to be fulfilled, he might perhaps be induced to piehl, although reluctantly, to an imperious necessity.. Bet be hoped the Horse wou ld liclulge hiai whilst he slated the reasons whit he could not believe these statemente.to be (m -ere -../heir, heatirby he did not think these dreadful pee: diction. justifiable, or the country up the hyink o( dieters. ties. The Hun. Gentlemen (Mr. Western),isd eeleelled par. Healer frets *bleb he considered iedieatione 4 diem*, and he (Mr. Peel) admitted the propriety of ebe 'Griot;, bet at the same time, so far from admitting .they were Maus of distress, Ire hoped be should be able to pep they weed. rather proofs of prosperity. The first laurel them is by the Ifon Member was the pour's rate's, and stated that a greater Dumber sir pr,..opi, had received relief frogs the ISOVf.'• fella Sleet she !Seim, than in the 'same pitied 'during {Pp war. Now he (Mr. Peel) might deny in ;Merest the propjet, of iamituting a comparison between the periods of -pewee mid war, but if he saw that there had been a gradual increase of pauperism, he most admit that it would be one mans ektoseist of the consideration, which should Doi be thrown wide.: IN held in his hand as, account of all the cocottes 44,13aglead and Wales, sod the amount of pout's rates paid, sod is contrasting the two years, 1820 aud .1821, ha ,fiated that, oat of the 52 conaties, an increase had takes, place is oily two of them, namely, Noithumberland aid. Hunliogdon; sod in every other county the pope's rates , had bees dims. Dished: in every county in Wales a reduction had taken Pace. Now if any left/Tett were to be draws from these statement'', it would not certainly support the inference that the country had been it, a progressive state of decay... (Hear ' hear.)—The next subject to which the Hon. Genii*. man h ad ters•reed was, the Meerut of crime. He mid, "Elie what an effect this ' has had on the morals of AD people." He (Mr Peel) admitted that this was a fair sub ject to form an estimate; but be did not ibiukthat ••etereet judgmeet could be made as to the egrets of the measure, upon the, increase of crime its periods of peace and wort wee was it fbsr to conclude, that hectoliter crime had increased I during peace, sod that the Bill fur the reliquaries* si cash payments was coincident with the Fetus of peace, that therefore the increase of crime and that measure steed is the precise relatioo of cause and egret. ,He bed selected the county of Middlesex, and be found that from 1749, t. 1768, which were five years of peace, the number of uphill charges amounted to 428. 1. *even ;pre afterwerda which were years of war, the number of capital ehargea amounted to only 175 la 1761 and 1;82 years °Lear, Asts member mounted to 11, .and fist three years efleresediN • year' of peace, the Dumber of capital ctsarges was 154,—(these, test slope would prove that the incecaos of crime must be referred to the peace, and if the 800. Gentleman (Mr. Western) tarnished the great authority he bad quoted last night (Lord Bacon), lie would find that opt. •iou confirmed. Now is 1820, 1821, and 1822, in the number of persons committed in 27 gaols at the last Lent Assizes the proportion was this, that in fuer of the (*ohs there had bent tan increase, in all the rest a decrease; and the total decree*/ he • the number of committals at the last Leet Amami, as compared with 1821, amounted to 4141—He nest caste to the revenue; and lie oily referred to that for the pauperse of shewiag, that were the same mesescontinired to be employed. to collect the revenue, instead of • dimiantiun, there had bees an increase. There were 60 excise collections, sad in the year 1821, compared to 1820, there had bees in five of theist • ffintioution, and four out of the five arose from • Niles., in the crop of bops. In all the others there had been en htei grease. If thee any inference were to be drawn from theist celetdations it must be this, that the consumptive power. of the country . bad not been diminished. The number of, the earls. praisectstions, trbrcb would assist the House' in forming their judgment, were as follows:—la 1817,1 461 ; In 1618, 379; in 1819, 220; in 1820, 329; in 1891, • 196 ; and in the expeases of law proceedings the tedsu lion in the last tau years, as compered with former year., was very considerable.—(Hoar, hear, hear.)—He now came to. subject which was extremely difficult, namely, the con. sideratiou of the conditio• of tbe.labouring clause., He bed used every means to (Maio the most accurate information, and if be was deceived, or failed in the attempt, it lela sot for want of the necessary exertion. He had endeavoured to ame.lain the state of employment of the labmeringulasees is Bolton, Manchester, Itochdale, Leeds, Glasgow, Hod dersfield, and Nottingham. At Rock dale the .spinotra were in full employ, and also the weavers u Mae. cheater; the manufacturers were Rol so Bourchisgt bat from the security of the precept standard, and the 'shirt Credits, there was fall employ for the.worhing classes; bat more business must be dune for the master. manufacturer to make the same profits es, be themesty did.: At Glesgow the comforts of the manufacturing el bed Inereued; at Nottingham the csttou swam/ minufae toms were fully employed, and a workmate would ears from Itls. le 225. a week, *hater silk stockier was not so goad, but the laci trade was flourishing; the whole state ment then went to shew that there was full employment, al. though the wages were lower, which denied lie espreasioo of the NM. Member fur Essex, that the manufacturi•• cluster wore in a state of ruin and sloth. While be presented this view he could not bide hoop himself. the distress of other branches, but before they interfered with the mandard ternary!' of the couotry they ought to be assured that it was the' cause of the whole @gm : cultural distress, the ease distress an iseed in other countries when the standard user had bees'. altered. At Amsterdam and the Low Coon tries, if they !oohed to the evidence of Mr. Jacob before the Agricultural Comeare.. tee, thmt in the Netherlands the farmers complained; said also I. Fiance where these bad been so cheep of cure sly; thin *fp Ilireyescribed tbi . wlsole cause of ille &drew la the • charge ifte e eeeee ey they ought to look to the meteor elites countriee where it had not bete cimaged ; the. Mee, reuse was 1 the bacteria. Of , she value of .money which guest sot le he 1 interfered with. HA weed epithets that the standard in this 1 errantry could not be altered, without emstuatos.to every interest in it. He world Mee Pia decided opposi4iont to that. polies of.the.Hee. Member for gores. Heogresd eicrfemil Wills ihe aniesidesent of his Right Hon. Friend (Me. Hoak.* . sull), and trot they peen to declare. irs ilserear.l92B stmt. they would not come.' to alter the standard .wesbut of coin is this country. The Light Hos..Bcesetaiy mt &era 'midge load c1iece Ad e . „ 06. ,,.. L .,, ~,.•. • 1••.• . , ••t.•• .. , ~ '_.4 o -_ Mr ' URPS ua IO4II.I/ 0 * 111 two te..alato Out seesees.hthr. be agreed to ' ilin porosities of his Hun. Fr iced, the•itainat bee km, Braelt!... 4Agramegtby *lb she. aism,....aserstieg : who bad just eat dawn, that it would be sausgesAhrms 'oppose that a paper standard should be resorted to ; it was a thing that should SKIM exist s that the Bauk "1PZ."481 siaokfe,":oPirgitehtultofttilitt! Iral imatr it Was enacted that w h•vir tilt! Itr sec ipped ant themetive, lkt eveute lathe rkeol _ r.. . . . • ~ ' should be alloyed thli Si is lisej w i 4 40ile Um the Wets* year 1797, rotes to M t ,. le ee'lt it of the revelry; bet what heelimrythi Oath tbrit tblaiik dead ought ci be lowered, ihr mann"? expected it fives dialliaur HMI woo., bad been one Ilse must some Is tie Mot Miehlad brot.e.e on the callosity they s een then discomami., AI. w •ulo be supposed froth the arguments of the Wight Ifsisooralite Si eretary, that this was the brat time the; i+d lever, eci with. tbs cereeney { they bad been Oiling soothing elm; silks the yiar 1797. He +sell Usk• mOd made a gut - Nell wor s t'' Ina. and who afteineardo pool she isolate i ve dsi ve with Us. and les. on she pored, tic would sell theelytt woe that Heise, with the coneorresice of the other liouseof , Parliament. If they ware 10 loult to Hie ensinbly of sled ...es o r s h e 37 1 b of th e b e t e King, they would find it steleit : {ben, that the then Chancellor of she Exchequer lint mated Jo the King in council that hoarding had taken elate, awl {list in a abort lime there woo/c1 not he auffirimit Janney in tie country for the public, and this was considered at th-I *me a soffirieist ground fur the passing of the Act, 14 4 , *told say, then, that they ought now to do ail that one Vby the miou of his Hon. Fr.end, the Mein's Sur ic, A ~ to itleire whether the standard might ant 6c reilemitl. The Right Honourable 3•eretiery appear e d to be . elestroese lirtaiing issue with his FlonoUrable Emend iv Oslo Mpg.ik paid that lee voids} eet,,,,under amp Clretliqwertritre dlihht in moth a' proposltloisi Ana of he belimesl the masts Mein of his FlonoureAsin Fr teed, be iroolci cortientithe itritiii 11114Rris bas thee; Ifitlft hr. did not belt. et. the troth Ja: thy fietnebt, *Me h he (*r: flrougham) cooteedesl be (the I on arable Secretory) had confirmed by the detail* he &h igh • ' ' into. The loci rare its the revenue mos sot a sir 'inesplaiet; hot wiles he coroplsisrel pf tras. that istillions of revenue it she present slarsoined 11111/ *life 11. W millions when the starched was dcpreetakedi, The fill ift.tie in the Excise be did lot reside/ a, prpoCof the gillnl s hi c is state of the cowitry, alitiongtsi ,sitight Are so lc , hi' the caelatidn of I Chancellor , the. Igaelin. goer : it was not a solemn, systiqi ,p f . prosper'''. It Was Imppjlettfle the agriculturist coplid lariat hip pro. .4164 to libiket Übe's hedtti not get • lbc price of the vs peose,pf growieg it, the price of porodocit must rive or 1t... odOitiMatflioliiiii Wind throw a pnetins prtheir 'mid out 01 jmililiaJtiA ''Vfas not this a situil4oopf pain yid difficahyr fit Om strirolturist to have his egetEwen doubjed while liiir We.. irete the same as in 1792 ? 111 Was pima, the name , to him whether the bilance of pr.ilit . .wrp against shim by Illliie. 1 iteitositidni Or by the sugmentstioi„in.ilie..islite of of I • coulrer. A. to what the Right of r4bly Gentleman had a ' , allied with Milieu to 1114 . atel, be dented it , • ad' miner of fart. There eras sot shaftLig hersospinsou to I I be made between the sofferings of the Agricohnial elasiges ,here and on the Continent. As to the argument of the dia. , tress not being general, lei"declinid to reply to it. it was quite pea from from whig,, bad taken place, that thc few exceptions •114'.1U . 00am, routines were not eueeth to form I sirelkieht tit!! exemption. As to the irgprottect tlre condition of the lelru . ,la that respect also he must differ from the Right Hod. Gentleman. The labeitier• were suf fering to that degree wbieb In some rases had retitled breacbee of the piare, In others they ware reduced to the lowest coadt. ties of existente. He appealed to the Gentlemen of Norfolk and Suffolk for the tspili of .bat •he averred. The ease of Ireland was 100 melancholy for reference.. Dal urged the motion fur inquiry. Wiwi ought tp be clone he could not say.-.(Hear, bear, from the Mieisterial Menehes.) —Why surely the Noble Lord did noteiseeet him so entirely to invert tie order ofthinei--the NublitLord did not take him to be so vile a togiriso as to assume the whole of .het for which be was praying. It was because he did out see hie way, it was because he did not know the prop. r remedy for • disorder so complicated that he wished to have inquiry. One great reason for his demanding it was the reception which had been gleeo to • wise and most coropmbessiee speech from an Honourable and Learned Fi Mod of hie, he had elbibited every view of the question with eggs male skill, but yet was not listened to. He was . pow 1 fird sad ashamed at the treatment of that speech. Geo. Hessen comedown not by dozens or scum, but by laundrwle— not to !sates but to vole—not to discuss bat decide—whirs' one attempt to answer that which was, to be sum, no. answerable.—(" Question !")—He complimented theHou s eesp the p slit-tit, philosophic, patriotic attention to that stilijecc which kept all England i• Ineathless expectation vo Om imp.. He concluded by supporting the motion The Marquis of LONDONDERRY bricßy opposed the motion. The Hosoilbahle Gentlest's, himself was nut clear at to the coyest he wished to have taken. After the pates and difficulties which it , had cost the country. NO aithought it would be most instidviastile to depart again r.. os the smoilard to which they had returned. He 'anieJ that the Parliansest had ever recognised the principle of de- l 1 partlog from die ancient standard. He thought it would r he most objectionable just now, wbee all the tender,. of price welt towards, im new level of our circomstaoces. st• thought It the inure ioconibent on the House to stand their i r , because widths the last forty-eight beers, to a neighbouring county. the people had beets Ili defied by •o individual cwhose abilities be did not mean to qoestion) In frame a Petition to tie House, praying that • re. doctiou of She interest of. the public debt might Immediately be effected. He concluded by sopportiog the Amendasto,. Mr. WESTERN briefly replied. • The House divided— Fur the Amendment.......... 194 For the original Motion , . . i ~ . A . Ilajoellt• -.4....t • re.. . JO. .• • Adas‘rosi at is QUARTOI.IPACT TRARR O'CLOCK. "' Tilt' 111 NG'S LIsPEE. Yesterday his s 3jesty id • Levee at his IV P lace in Pall-mall. which was My numerously and splendidly attended : the -company were setting down between two and three haws. There were upwards of 1,000 persons pretest. A detachment of the royal horie guards roarchod. to Waterloo-place, psecirdiril by their nuinetiout band, in their state uniforms. The King's guard, under the command of CiAo nel Mackinnon, preceded by their hood, in thqd. state uniform', marched into the court yurd of the Palace, and played alternately *rah that of the . . . royal horse guards. Sir Richard Birnie, the Chief INlagistmte of the Pollee, was in attendance at the Palece. Town,. bend . and ,Sayer, the officers, were in the. Palece yet& and numerous parties of officers were sta tioned at the avenues leading to the P,lace,•ie tf e • streets, &r: . . Two royst porters appeared at each ,g4ie, with their splendid long staves, weaving their eaten:Lova caps. .Ibeonmhelinen„ porters, gent lemen perte f , the state and other pages, appeared , n their cow, fion owlets's.: The grsud hall was lined by 1 , e yeomen guard. The honourable ( -ne v e o f Kt ,_ ileineu pensioners were 'tattooed in the ofefee:ii 110,3 . ~ ...• i.,,...., 6 .: .. • • On his [ Majesty leaving his private ainotmert..l.,r. the state room, Colonel Bouverie, the Field Oehler in wailing, snide •. report of the effective state of •the three regiments of foot guarit.. His Koval. Nighties" the Prince of Denmark was I introduevel to its Majesty, egreroltlY to Coil , ' 1 etiquette, in his Mejvst y i clobri, by fits Itoyet hlighums,the.Deke of I oil:. Baron Fogel, the Ambassador from the Nether. • • lends, had aoaudressele of 'the King, to dein,er it: . letter from his Sovereign. 1 Litateiteht:Colonet Don Frsoci.co de Siiseupa t , * Pre.reittelifbio* s iwi° ol . " 0 """' . .....044 - : ." , Wrisliingtott..ltvidg a Erg. was presente4l4Prikal 41 maim* haoiact‘ . • .•• • . , Atisi:"'"'; ' Monsieur de *raerySirmenter i , the riilW,Xliilgsi a 'Atith*idliiel*Migitt weir -prlAde4,... in :five circle by the Marquis of Lonilu..derry ; and Ls -> :~ _ ... 4! .111 _~ 1 1, 317 r. ! I