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'~, _~. I \ Iti nettle in doe Marriage Service—rtead awl laid iaVe. CORN IMPORTATION BILL. E)rl BATuokst miffed the Ordes of t' aboold be read for their Lordships gait Committee on the above Bill, which beh Cie Noble.E t atl isid. it sac with great r addressed their tortfshiPa, as the duty Ins ou taut on account of the indisposition of his t. Friend, the Esrl .. of Liverpool. He thogght... would be more convenieut to proceed tiow,.be (-Jose he was net aide to -tote oar whet day next eek his Noble Friend would be so fir recovered as to be able Mc attend in his place. it was not his intention to enter into the catisesor the agricul tural distress, for he did ant thins they were any way touching this Bill. By the Corn Act ell im portation of wheat was prohibited until the price ruse to ea., when there was to be an unlimited ad utsaion of grain, which would cootie a great transi tion from high prices to low; the great bone was the Midden change of the price; it made the master s ussotrofacturer enter into new contracts with his wotkrttow, mad the farmer with his labourers. The object of the present Bill was to correct that, by allowing a moderate Importation of grain. Ile tweet not state to their Lord.hips the difficulty of moderating the quantity to be imported, if there was only one port, and that difficulty was increased whets there were eeveritl. The Bill proposed that' *Own the price was from 70s. to 804. that there "ea" be a duty of 17i. on foreign *heat imported, to last for six weeks, after which a duty of Ids. ; nod when the price in the home market strived art P3a. a duty of Ss. ; and over flirt price Is. ; the et act of which would be, that when the ports were closed wheat warehoused was to be considered as imported, and liable to the duty : tine would pre- Sent all speculators froM entering into the inatket, a. they would have to advance the amount of the Oats - . The objection to title, as lie understood it, was, that the duties proposed were not stifficient to protect the British grower, hut those that took that objection ought to take into their consideration end add the S per cent. mercantile profit on foreign wheat, 12 per cent. freight and insurance, which *mild make the foreign wheat meet the British Ws. minus. Suppose foreign wheat was at 30s. it would bring it to 795. before it came into the Pritish market. It was said that wheat might be purchased abroad itt 355. and 375. but the reason w is, thin this market was closed spinet them ; but if it was to be opened, the price in the foreign market would rise. Some time beck, when it was supposed the harvest *mold fail here, the market immediately rove on the Continent. Their Lord. whips were not to suppose that the foreign former was able to efford to sell et such low prices; so far loin it, the distreas of the landed interest was Rauch greater there then here—in many instances the landowner had let the mortgagee into posses soon, end others had surrendered to the Crown for arrears of taxes. The object of the Bill was to present a sudden change, 1 . 1.0111 prohibition to an overflow in the market. He uuderstood there was an objection, that when the price was 70s. the wheat alreedy ,rehoused before the passing of the Bill should be allowed to come to market. fie did rot see how the objection would lie: for If it came to market at 70s. it would pay the duty—aid eeitline as the law now stood, it would come lobo the tilaoket at 804. without pitying any duty, as it we , imported and warehoused under the faith of te. Corn Bill. A eery great change must take place before the price would rise to 704.; and was it not to s t.otrui ta %swoons that those persons who bad wheat now warehoused would rather sell when it raise to that price, and pay the duty, than risk its tiling to 80a ? He could not understand why any pow agreeing to the first part of the Bill could dirapprore of the second part.. As the price of 1141,eat mu. Del near 70s. per quarter, he considered the present a very goad time fur the Hose* to le gislate no the subject. Lord East :ma said no man was more friendly than himself to the principles of free trade, if the country were in I natural State; but the 'exertions which had berti made during the war, in order to preserve those very countries who were now inundating us with time coru, bad let the agricultural interest ite a very unfit state to compete with them. It was admitted by hintieters that a protecting duty was 'weep eary, and it was tart well known that foreign corn could he brought beret at 31*. s or 3 ts. per quarter. How then could it be conceived that 17s. a quarter was a sufficient protection. when at the same time the Act which pawed in 1815, fixed on 80.. per Tinter at a remonstrating price to the Britirh grower' It was the duly of Parliament rather to have raised the scale •f prouctioe higher, then have placed it tower than the Art of the 55th of Outlaw King, The Amour io this country load to pay tithes, parer rates, and assessed taxer, and tinder those hardens he wound pat it to the Noble Esti, whether the Eng halo farmer could raise coin and bring it to market at a price iv Gaze' the fsreign grower. It was said the poor lend, might be throws orator cultivation, in order to limit the prodertioo. let what woe to become of the immense capitals laid out upon it! What was to become of the proprietors, of the titillvatore of the soil and the poor, if those lands were we oat of cultivation? What also was to become of tie renege, sod the payment of the iutemt of the 141? It was true the bondholder held his right• under law;lbe hat so also did the lamellialder. They slid not task for a daty of 30s. or any specille sons—what the humeri asked for was weemuneratime prior. Brfure • at all on this subject, their Lordships ought to egos. lige the burden' so the land. By she statute of Elis rhetb all personal property was liable to be assessed for the rosientation of the poor, yet there were nrany great mane factories which brought numbers of poor on the parted where they was situated, but it only paid to the rates ass barn. It timid ant be otherwise; the law could not reach foble .- them; but the House was bound to hid the imschloiry fogies effect to the law. This measure seas professed to be for the relief of those for whom the law in 1815 was passed, end yet astir Lordships had not • single Pititiou os their table to firmer of it. It was sot his wish to raise prices so high as to give one class of the eciammuoity an advantage over soy other, bet it was his wish to see all cl Shrive together. For 'he ressous he bad given he should move that the Bill be committed this day the months. Lord DACRE said lee felt assured that an. sufficient relief could be afforded to the agriculturist, seed therefore be ►aped that their Lordships would at least poMposeibe mea sure for the present Sessios. The BM. according to the Noble Earl opposite, must be inoperative, sad therefore Little lies m could result from the delay. Before smother Ser. mop h► thought their Lordships would be couvinced of the onimewse ethos of (amities ou the agriceltorsl interest. If the t•sa, ion did sot prodece • great part of the elostreit, how happened it that the distress was so much greater them so 1792, whea Ilse prices of produce were Dearly His same as at preseui ? Toter vests uo evidence which muisfiid him of the surplus prod../ that was talked of, but he thought it ! ;trial* that the eirculatiog medium sus lees new than im 1112, alien from ilia ter.ressed transactions of the emisky. 'kw/Ater grandly MIS requited. He could net ore bow the eueplee peeklace cuaW be is(bettei from ;he qoaulais The Earl of FIARROITBY would not follow the Noble . pod Learned Lord sad the Lord who spoke lest through all their arguments. The only questious for their Lordships were these:—le this • ft time to legislate ?—.and is the pre *est a proper measure to pen? He acknowledged the dill eishire • attending the question, from the abstruse nature of the tothject, from -she oneertaluty of the farts, and from Ilse inconclusive nal nre of the arguments derived from these facts ; yet he thought the Roast would disappoint the just expectations of the country if they did not provide prosper. lively fur those evils which experience bad sheen to be of probable occurrence. For three years and a half the agri ealtorists had had the complete indoopuly of the home mar ket, yet prices had aeceetaieely th dined, so that if the pro tettion had been as high as the Noble and Learned Lord would here desired, yet the result would have brim the same. Setting aside the stale of the circulation, this result was, be thought, to be accounted for Irma the great quantity of foreign corn which was warehoused in this country in 1818, followed op by three abundant harvests. What ought to be guarded against appeared to him to be this—that when, from the state of the circulating medium, or a short harvest, the price X corn was raved is our markets, N should not rapidly be brought down by an unlimited importation of Gotten corn. That h- thought would be effected by the present Bill; sod hum the ehauge of the circulating medium, he considered that TOr. per quarter was as much protection to the 4,4%11- torsi interest as 600. was in 1815. He thought it could out be crinclutlid that taxation was the cause of the distress, since the earn* depression of mark, ts had taken place is some of the Cantons of Switzerland, where hilly or no taxation existed. He would put it to their Lordships, taking into consideration the probability of bad harvests in this country, whether it was probable that Parliameat would be persuaded to peas a Bill m're favourable to agriculture than the present. The present he enrsidler.d as the proper time, by nudging a compromise of different opinions, to place the agricolture of the country os a less dangerous footing thaq it stood at present. The Earl of EA RNA RYON thought it was the duly of their Lordships to look to what was the esiniessrin of protection are. misery fur the agricultural interest. If the price of corn was raised much beyond the average prices on the Continent, such a measure must drive capital out of the country, sad wool I first destroy manufactures', and ultimately destroy the leaded interest also. He was essavinerd that great part of the Iliotrts• arose from the alteration of the currency. The dati frosts wbieb the protecting price of the Act of ISIS was ealcorlated was from the average prices of former yam (during the piper smartie'', therefore thus* data must be erroneous. For 150 years before the Bank Restriction Art, the price of wheat en an average of years did not exceed the resew mite. All that he hoped was, that the House would consider the state of the correocy at least as one of the souses which iaßueneed the present state of prices in our maikets, and as Oa Mew hid ae data oe which they could calculate prospectively, he should vote galas* their goiug into a Committee. Lord It EDESDALE thought the. presets! era mot a 61 time, for though it was said that it yes rsl new likely to excite clamour, yet be would take leave I. sarthat it bad excited damns• amongst the landholder/. and there were besides other considerwrimm which induc ed him to believe that this was not a At time to legislate on the sobject. It was fir the interest of ell parties that corn should be at an average price. The Brest distress which the agriculturist felt, arose not from the money price merely, but from the quantity of his pro 'ace that he was obliged to bring into the angelic to pay fur what he wanted. If be was now obliged to give three bushels of wheat for wield' which • century ago he gave only one bushel, the Douse most my that was um cause of the farmer's ditties.. If, for instance, the taxes were 10s forresiy, be rod them by the sale of one bushel of wheat at IN., but now with wheat at St. a bushel, he most sell two hostels to pay them. Considering it is that point of view, there was no period in the history of this country when corn was so low as it now was. By this law the trade ism cora would be assimilated to the deal- Wigs is 'Change-alley, w hese the Bolls sod Bears endeavoured to overreach each other. There inched they were met by persons able to compete with them, but the agriculturist would have no chance it such a contest. He thought that it would he far better for the House out to le gislate Sr all on the subject, as they 'weld nut as. fiery any body, whilst by postponing it they would at testi have the advantage of getting better information of the state of the rest or Europe has they at preseotpessessed. He eoold not me any object in pressing forward the measure, as it was allowed that it *sold be ineffective,valess • rive took place in thecae's mike* which should bring wisest tip to be,. per quarter : a eirestenstsiscl,very null hely to hymns. Fur these reasons be should votenainst the Bill. Lord ELL'ENBOROUGH said that all the argumente proceeded on the supposition that the present was to he a permanent measure, but it was in fact only endeavuoriug to remedy an ilimoveoienee arising oat of the present state of the lisw, and thereby to give time to their Lordships to frame a measure which should have a greater appearance of per manence. The present Bill would certainly not relieve the ogricollorist, but be would put it to their Lordships to say obether, if wheat wereto rise to &Or. a quarter, they would rather be under the old law or the rearm? He thought they would at once meteor ledge it • mild be better to bare • duty of Na. • quarter than mine at all. For these (COMM be world support the Dill. The Earl of DARNLEY said that be had always depre. pled isquiries on this subject in that House, oe the ground of the neknusrledged inability of Parliament interfering to diminish the dishes, which was the only ground on which Parliament was called epos to ioteifers at •11. The Bill sow before the House was • melancholy proof of the truth of that opiulon, though the House of Commons, by sending it up to that House, seem to have entertained • different one. This was a subject which had been much novasseil, and all agreed in one point, that the distress was very great. The doctors disagreed as to the remedy—one said high price* moat be kept up b ix. heavy duty on importation; but be (Lord Darnley) agreed with the Noble President of the Council, (hat under circumstances of scarcity in the coun try, it would be impossible to execute such • Isw without tisk of exciting as insurrection, and no Moister would on his own responsibility divests* with the Bill. He would not pursue this subject through all its beeorhea, as the House most be fatigued with thy arguments at that sole to in duce their Lordships at least to passe on the subject, parlicu• lady as it should be recollected that the measure had been rejected was scree by those fur whfroe bent it the other Home of Parliament bad passed the Bill. He believed there emitted abuses in the striking the overages, and the House, is his elision, ought to legislate to prevent such is soda lo future. The Eta of MORLEY said, that coasiderior the unees• Wary of oar climate, be could not view with vibe same eon. *device as some Noble lw.rda that the average price of wheat is the mullet might not be above SW. a quarter b e f ore the nest meeting of Parliament. lie could not say that the Bill was, likely to satisfy the earieulteral inter es t 5 bet looking to the effect of an inilianiiest importation, know. lag that the ports of France land Holland were crowded with tern, be viewed the Rill a safer thee the liar as it at present atpod,aud be was therefore fir guise into the Committee. The .restiva was thee pat, and the Howe divtdcd, whets there appeared Contents ... . Nee-eantents ..... . Majority in favour of the 8R.... is On our return below the bog, we found the HON* I. Committee on the Bill, and The Earl of. DARLINGTON declaring his intantios of opposing the Bill in every stage. The Bill then went Armagh Ike Coonsiltev, and the ,bird reading was lard for Monday scat, fur whieb day their Lordships Adjourned at aloe o'cluvb, . 4 trie., • laid oil Ilea of lailatilpiareelo *alit Ala Noe time to the Irtirreatei proyaKhew i ale is the ptpolatila. He was oatielled IL. iimr• is i sit ogrfenhuriat in she eolitatry who or ths Dy was OM sess,h o e !heir Lordships not to tree*? Slam ~ , ,in gi D t‘u, halt relte! which ligai held out by the pretest Bill. No isebiif enhht puswitty accrue fiy •uspeading their deciaioi, ./eing done, let much harm wish' arise from rashly legislaiing,-60 there- concern b& c. 1441 ftetotell lire* - Lordships would see their way more hod Tina clearly, before they decided us the subject, iadiN= •••••.... \ `'Wrif • VIPT7 rP7W . ~~~~ ~~! At lide-pail three • and wee immediately hear theLkuval Alvent public mod private Bit HIGHGATE CHAPEL Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a Petition from the In habitants of Fiuthlcy asd Homey,' spirit the Highgate Chapel Bill. Mr. BROUGHAM expressed ahe that his Hos. Prised (Mr. Byug) would not bring forward the subject datll the House ass fully attended. It was not io effect a private Bill, end should be discussed as • public question. It 1111111 I subject that deeply affected the isterests of t►is school, which, if properly managed. might be of the greatest public utility. It W4II more richly esdowed than Harrow, and capable of • docatiug 150 boys. Mr. BYNG said, lie should certainly bring forward the subji et in the order in which it stood in the paper. Ordered to be laid on the table. Mr. N. CA IN ER p led a similar Petition from Holloway and Lensington..-.Lald oa the table. Mr. BYNCI then moved the Order of the D 47 gee the second reeding of the Highgate Chapel Bill. Mr. HUME said, if his Honourable Friend was deter mined to persevere lie mast move that the Bill be read a second time this day six months. Since the last discuiesion be bad looked Into the records of this school, and bei found that the manor bad bees originally granted by the Bishop of London to Sir Roger Cholmondeley personally, end Sir Roger founded this school himself, and there was no pretence why the Governors should appropelste the fund. to the building of a chapel. But there •as moodier objection, is his miatl Insuperable, foe the principal law officer of the Crown had declared that he must oppose the Bill, become it would materially affect • suit wow peedisg is the C..•rt of Chancery. He therefore thought the Bill shbuld be post posed, sod be should more that it be read • wood time t►is day three mouths. Mr. AWermso WOOD stated that this school bad bees originally intended for • grimmer school, and from ►he foods they possessed it might now be made a rational school. However it was sow merely • gramme school, and although, of course, the resident clergyman was fully competent to glee instruction., yet the sexton and grave. digger were the only preceptors. He should crusted, give his support to the motion of his Honourable Friend, awl he had no doubt that if the Huaouraldeltiroset opposite tr James Graham) spoke the truth, the House would see that the great anxiety which prevailed of passing the Bill this Sessitth was not so much fur the sake of passing the Bill, as to get the ezpeusess, which be believed would amonsal about I,onof. Sir JAMES GRAHAM disclaimed any knowledge what ever of the amount of the expenses, or of say inch consider 'floes; tied of the Bill itself he knew nothing until It had been introduced to the House of Lords. Imputations bad been cast upon him and others is some of the sewspapere. But hedespired such scurrility, they were beneath his •o. notice, he was above them ; and he solemnly protested that he Dever received any emolument professionally since he had the honour of a seat in that House. Mr. Alderm•s WOOD said, be never meant to cast an im putation on the Hououiable Baronet ; but be believed that the expenses were the great object for urging the Bill this Session. Sir ROBERT WILSON said, if the people of Highgate wanted a chapel of ease, it was very strange that they should not build • new one without interfering with the funds of other initiletions. Mr. Alderman HEYGATE said, it was the duty of the House to carry the will of the founders iuto enemies, and it appeared (pile certain that the intention of Sir R. ChM moudeley was, that the clergyman ebould occasioually read prayers, but should not have the cure of souls. Mr. BROUGHAM raid, that in the costae he meant so pane he begged to itisclatin all personalities. Hie opinion was founded upon public grounds, principally gelded by the Commissioners appointed to examine tutu the ■bus.• of public charities. He was decidedly opposed to the slightest invasion of peeperly, • system which both Houses of Par liament were called spa■ not uufrequently to adopt. Amid he believed if the whole mysterious character el private Bills was unfolded teethe country, suc► a setae of poetical iejustice and abuse would be exhibited as world Neese Parliament, ■nd disgust t►e public, who were disposed to plate confidence in them. Gesitlemea were day after day called upon, and induced by unease of canvassing, to deal with private property in a mouser sisal, if they wet eist •jury. box, they would shrink with horror at costemplatiag. He bad read attentively all the documents cuoueeted with Ibis endow mest,aud oil them he fuouded his opiiiion. If a chapel of ease was so very reach desired by the tubabiteotsuf Highgate, let them ...Widish oar io a regular way, but let them out invade • fund which was destined for °thee pneposra. These funds were granted by Sir a. Cleilmondele y, uol fur chapel-buildiug but fur scboul•keeping; and be thought that this inter. ference with the properly of the school stood single, even amidst sill the abuses of Bill.jobbiug. He defended the school upun the principle that a grammar school was w►at was meant and iistrudra by Sir R. Cholmondeley, as well as by the Bishop who oeigivally granted the land and he would say if they possessed more funds than netts. wiry, then establish an elemeatary school, and then found more schools, because by so doing you approach more Nearly to the the will of the founder than if you built • church') ■n hoepital,or soy charitable institution. For these lessons he should support the motion of his Butioasrabh, that this Bill be reed • second time this day three months. ter. WETHERELL couteuded that there had beew always • chapel of case supported by the grant, and that it was the will of the ("tinder that it should be assistant& The A r TORN EY GEN Elt AL said, it was perfectly fres thaj this chapel had been accustomed to be used by the to. habitants of Highgate, bat wires he looked at t►e terms of the grant he fuuod that the property had been subessutively bequeathed fur • school. This Bill proceeded un the clamp. lieu, that the grout was inteoded for • chapel, nut for a school, ■od that 1111111 s point which should be decided before the proper tribunal, mussily, t►e Court of Chsueery. Mr. HOLNE SUMNER said, that although be bail gives his maistauee,to the carrying of messy private 111111, lie neve► supported soy measure of injustice. He always allowed them to be read • second lime and committed, but before they proceeded further, he esercieed his own judgment as to their propriety. He wished that on the present occasion his Hers. Friend would postpinie the Bill. Mr. BYNG explained the grounds os which he bad beers induced to support the Bill. When he understood that a suit was priding is the Court of Chaucer, relative to this charity, be consulted aids the promoter, of be Bill as to the propriety of awaiting the decision. His objection was over. ruled. He then iutrodseed the Bill Its • modified shape, mud be should certaiuly take the sense of the Huuse upon it. Mr. WHITBREAD said he bad no donut that Rinse per. soon who brought leeward the Bill did so because Owe' Alt they were conferring a benefit on the iuhabitauts of High. gate; sod however anxious he might be ro assist that oh. ject, he weld not corneal while amid was pending 11, the Court of Chancery. The House then divided— For the Motive . ... ell For the /tweed:mut 62 ; I Majority Mr. BROUGHAM gave 'mice that he would or the nest eppurtouily renew his oppasiliou to the Bill. After • short conversaine beiweeu his, Mr. Calomel, and Mr. H. Simmer, the Ball was read eitecuad time, end ordered to be commuted Ott Moeda, seat. . X - . - sands put in employment, sad ',endued, snatched from the agonies of a starving death. But be must protest against the scepticism of feet assumed by his Right Han. Friend •bo spoke Ise ; it *sot to tuterfere with Hie geocrosity which bad overt .wed upon Ireland at a lime wbeu aid was so at. emery. He was alit, •ished bow the Right Honourable Gentleman could assume doubt upon authenticated sc. causal% so fiftieths, us to make the heart sick to list., to them. Ho might have hod testimony from his own distrid—froun about his own weighbowdsomi--aye, aid *ore his own relations. who bad actually appllkd to the London Cuinteaittee on behalf of the starriag poor. As to the visyetery of grain tearing Ireland, it softly required me great skill la political economy to see that if the people had u means, or labour, to purchase, those who bad purchased the produce of the last harvest might very well send off the pais, as at Westport, fur insisoce, and yet leave the people of the country starving. He could nut coureive gybes ground could be amused for doubt, shoo one-fourth of the whole kiugdoos of Ireland was eluded with ibis 41remlftal By the Government reports, whirls the Right Honourable Gentleman could nut pretend to dash!, there were •iue tousities suffering under these appalling calamities. In the county of Clare it appeared that there were 700 struck with the typhus fur want uf the poorest ourtemmee is the country. Fowls were placid at the disposal of seve medical geutlemee, who were to erect hospitals in each Wow. The poor +Writes brought their sick relatives to the steps of these bit:Wives, Omit, too full to admit more, therusekres almost without streogib to bear their owe weight. The neighbouring cottages haul nothing but distressed and ttis. eased inestes; and thus., fur the first time, Irish hovels failed of hospitality. No place open to receive them, the unhappy beings were in many instances glad to repose their sick burdens intern cabin wharilbere was only room for them to die. Was it to a roue like _thia, at d l . l I.llC a crisis of res., that his Right Hm. Fiietssi would attempt to check the laudable and use fat bounty uf England, by pretending to doubt mid mum* as megrim:lima facts so paiskellY se. theistic? He would he as mach ashamed as any mss of Ire. land being Ilupplied through the beneficence of Eug lnead, eiteentstauces of qt. must fearful exigency do) nut compel it. He had the greatest confidence on the exertions of Go. seennient, and the hb-ral enthusiasm of the British instate, which would but , be trailed, be cuoltd, ur Col mild the work of effscitml relief were accomplished. Mr. a BROWNE explained. lie did out men° to pule the existence of distress, but only to look for the causes, whirls he ascribed to waist of isidustry, want of employment, Sant of mantsfacturrs, want of cticulatiag medium, and want of money. Sir J. NEWPORT never intended, lo recornmuuding an industrious application of the funds subscribed, that the priocipla of political 'economy should be put iii contraien. lion wkh time peramoisot duties of butaxidly, which malt, ju sack a case as that of Ireland, supersede all amisiderMitmix of political economy. s'".. -- ...). - 7,).,\ \4 % , ... . -. ...0 . , . :sae • fncitpestion, in thall'este yow l et' iinutnealai chbreb sliolitl be reftlred to lbs said I had been taken so secure Committee. ea . u ll , r ai ll r. " G l 7Bee . the ue Ch tt, a a ne n e d lk4 Sl:. t H l . l l;li E tr lttiv ore, q n ub r u d e s j r n, : ep irt p S e ed l if ya a t it i o rg . th l i Vir t ati. . l a l i ;ht of nayigation, arid protect extraorditiary pretensions of tio tt o mfd that 6 h i e N w i n l ia r4 ld ° g7• j e th eio dr t e ree il f i or . In so n o t t i : u o . the ...triperor tr, .... , Rossini? The 'Morton) .4f LonnoNpitaaT odd, that the. On thequestion II tthe SPEAKER Irate the Chair.- t a . Ukase had been iiiindicu - ced by the Ambassador at Mr. WENYCRN rose, and was about to propose hilt Reeo• lu i t 'l ll' h n e I r tf e a l r Pe m e i ti la n u ir f th L e O c ti ur D re O nr S y D . ER kV role to expostulate Russia, and a note bad shortly idler been forward. rd, directing Isina— tot from the Court of Russia some espiiiirtott of the principles of ma - s a e , ttli si L m Ht i i: r . , S o le s m id lre b r no the iacasiventeace of ibis coarse, t i a T t E he ST regn Eß l N ati lll o, 3 „ ill:a h l i n u ed h rohfrrserdi:fistt Member b p ( c r ocee ta x d . , ,a an ua d i t ica b. wiaa a firm or d.. b e oil notice to eases to ritiar sad inter-national law on which the Ukase was founded. tie eau to intimate cat the same tune, that on neither of these grounds could the British Government see any sufficient reason for seceding tot every o i ceas b ion, h wb e i e i reas in his owa cue, the appaloosa) bwillitt only v t 11c Se nli a l oio y n t woeld li ci s i e ne O l t :e t fu m re Le in :: to the claim set up. Of engine the explanation Jeeteteri st a id nd ubt i a s ' all rub.. was to be sought with' a groper übservauce of the He earred to postpone his motion if Mluistroi w ul ou l l e d Ge g h i e s . ; amicable and confideistial relations existing between him upon order day, otherwise he meet Cu on, because there the two Courts. TO this no answer bad yet been was uuo dot ■open fur MUIWIIIS till the 1641). After some converastiou it was agreed that Titeclay oe:4.t received. But the condition of the whole uegoci thoult be given up to the Huu Geuilienail to lt shoat was to have the rights of British ualigatiou re. bus Resolutions. • "ug loteatif apected in those sees.—(Hear, hear.) The House shut reasolved itself into *Comm:tier. Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH wished to put another 111 r. ARBUTHNOT gave a brief rut idle of the estimates question, eqsally important is th e mercant il e i o t„ tate o f fa army extraordivaries. Fur the first tunic the Hors was this trountry. There had bees a gendenuatiou of • British furoushed with details which he h o p e d would prove 'etiolate merchant vessel trading to the revolted South American Co. tory, Ile described the different* between these estimate* lonics, is the Splllillh Vice-Adardhatty Court at POllO Rico. soil the same charge fur last year, la be ton,unot. 1... alas Whatever right Spain might bare over her Colottiem, she before. tie concluded by moving a resolot us fur toasting could nut, on any principle of Isteroatioual law, enforce ,00 . 000 F. for army extraordinsriel, exclusive of Ireland condemnation of the AMs of her allies, outlet the sentence Mr. HUMErapreased his satisfaction al the improvement of the colonial, contovercial, and fiscal laws of Spans, for in the Moil,. fie - nialied to have added speedos nubility trading with her Colonic*. The 'twist way to hove pre- estimates Cro the Colonies, with nerlit duly taken for waled such a nvieutirlostarodiag,- would have been fur the charges paid ant of the revellers. Parliament had sot suf. British Government to have recoguised the iudependeue of Acton , ewinissoce of those reveaues which were expeaded the Swab American Statek As it was, he wished to know _water the antairity of the King In evened; it was ways if any Recount had been received of the coudemnatiou of a Itt• of unchecked extisoditsloro sad thrregme litgblY lab- Ftrilish ship in the Admiralty Court of Porto Rico—if any jeatiounble. He was aware of the dispoaiiise eil Guern slept had ben takes to obtain ratisfactiou—and what had wow to good economy, mad he hoped that they world nut been illiesipted fur that purpose! refuse these facilities He intruded to pru4o artharedsrilun The Marquis of LONDONDERRY could not recollect of the Columba' Agents. Her:mad see no reaau• why the any 'tub circunotat.,:ta. lie wished to hear the name o f t h e a Collllllllllllieller of Wood sad Forests shoe il have 1,2031. ship, which might call it to his mind. a-rar as agent for Ceylow, or Mr. Courteoky 6001 fur the Dr. LUSH I NITION raid that the ship was called the ' Cape of (306.1 Hope, 'hr. , all the Insane , " could be dots- Lord Cellinueved, cud that the -Bret of the traosartion through the Caottial Ofllce. Hia thief objer.Vose were had hems greatly to tobasce the rate of i aaaaa nee , Is against the departineutti of the luniau 1-lo: aloe was a tradisig to House #eino. He offered to send the Noble Afar- treasury establishment for them large rough anal atirfi. oasis a copy of the emaderouation. ciently pad in do the Unities, of the whole empire. He iti- Tbe Mllfitnill sr LONDONDERRY said be would be tended to move fur the reduciluu if 2,5771 experusf or in. happy to receive further iiifurmatiori upon the subject; till spectral of roadie, there being to such military is the when he must, of course, postpone any answer. Okuda. He contrasted the expeutes of C-n. Craig, 1,116 f. Mr. W. 511rri4 moved that a rule of Court obtained by a year, when the English took prisuaisn of the Cape.? Good the Attorney General in the Exchequer, respecting eattsts Hope, with the salary of the p elect Governor, 10,0001 a.year e is aid, on Saturday last, should be printed.—Ordercd- sod the other expenaa, making hi all ih,nOrd a y es ,. B e objected also to do expellees of the Crionia I Surereboyehips. CONINIITTEE OF SUPPLY. The revenues of those Culdideit, he eareaded, aught to be The Order of the Day for the Hoene going-tutu • Cam- brought into the Ways and Mesas of the year, as such a. goatee of Supply was dos read. the rsvenues of this country ; and much .mers so than Mr. BERNAL, referring to w issollow respecting the dill- "'any paltry autos which the Chancellor of she Exchequer tresses of Ireland to be made in the Committee, observed load introduced—each u the pressed!' of Aid steers, Re. to that II not out possible fur t h at state o f t hi n g s le go fie.— the same monism., he contended, the mole in which these It was now appave•t that there wail) nut ha a greater /41111 rcrCuucA were expended °night to bt laid . before Puha ' tarot. Ile was choideut that if the cstabl os t imen i a t raised than 150,404.1., while there were, *reading to the best accounts, farm 4to 000,000 sisieriug the extremes of the Cape was placed as • scale cunieseusuratt with famine—who were so far souk in misery, that they could that of any other of our Colonic* is Cewisoillos to liar not be saved from utter starvation. He was ofopitiion that try/four' in 1790, at least from 'Wee to 10,060/. of its pee item charge might be saved. The Has. Member then pie. the House ought not to to u ch no any other boohoo nail something effectual was dose to twee the extreme burners cue lid to outlet the matingement of the Wand of Mauritius, which awaited the "offering classes ....: Ireland. which he described ais dogrel.. lolly extravagato. Pos sessed if a revenue of 1041,0001. a year it was yet • Mr. GOV LELYR N described thrusts which bard been malt of the money already advanced under the saitet mu of l'arlia- heavy charge upon this country He then touched upo n meatby the Irish Goverismeut, wbirb, while it would give the default of Mr. Theodula Hook in that eulogy, sad employment sub relief, would ultimately co.t nulling tu the str° " lll cewe ' d the aatia." to "alai ac utktrluth and iespoo.ilde security frost him and 'other persona placed euuutry, but would be repaid by instalments sesessed by in similar situations of treat, and reprebeuded the the Grand dories. Ii might har satisfactory for the House to learu that the money voted by Parasitical, aini the subscria. culpable negligence which bad been exhibited to briog limo made set of doors had been very efts coal in the 'pith- it 'll hum to ucc°utg• The Honourable G. otterann then proceeded to examine in iletalf /he esiabliahmeut of cation—that (torn seconuta last received from those parts 44f the island, which be comended to be moat lavish and the comfit y which extravagant in its •ppointrouts. Ile sat glad to bea r lieve that the calamity was abating—that the money voted Pod aubsetihed, Nader pedall regutatiamisfSuial be °early Ittut GI. " " Hate " inmudej to wit. ' out a C°111.1 "a ull to inquire unto this subject is all asst bearings. If that adequate to the roisisg •f the people oat ef their difficult its, step hid hero taken bi fore, as at alight, these *sold boa though net without essaidersble *Urals( daring thealight, beeo a sa,iug is the army eat...ordinaries for next year rOlp VAL r of at least 300,4001 hotted of 100,0001 Brit it was in 14r. D ISROSVISE strongly objected to fostering bad he- vain to expect that the Coluities alludd eoutribute bias among the Irish poptitatios by teachisig them to feed on tumid* the maiuteustos of their sailitur cetabli hme • charity. He could out Awesome for the distress. Never had w hil e t h ey were 'toddled with such extrL ° agamt Lail a l p: he !mown loch abundistice audehespuemof provisions is Ire- poinintents The sex( topic ape •hteh the Honoarabte lead at ibis time of the year. What could be ineaitt by Member dilated was the coil awahli-banent at Gibraltar. H e seeding provisions over uu a cuosiry already distressed with d m ', at sw ell aritg a t oo t h e app ,„ ttimeot „ r " tai l &are the abundance of them? There was some seer. tur mystery lay to the ini:daro Governor, with a salary of I 2001 a.year. I. This herald hit controelle"sto"• He thought the" " 1141 lagiulat two we three . other peasloos. TUB thaw was as ex- - be some exiggeration in the siatensesta of di.t.eo—he. pe ,.. 0 . 0 ...oblations-0 wader him. lie also reprobated lbw cause be saw exports of grain leaving all the ports of lobbied app ,,,,, to , eut of b ot h a G omm) , an d a Li„te„sat cmefllllf to be brought lather. et each large salerrre. He visored the appoistmest of Mr. V. FITZGERALD would bate contented himself a Judge Advocate iu that garriano at 1,0001. reyear. Tbe with represents the salisfactiou given bum by his Right flue. next establishment to which be caw wee that of Friend, in his &WIWI{ of the rescued multitudes—ibuit. Sierra Lea ans id the Gambia, kr as which 00,0001. w . - . . . . ~~ . charged, bring too much by at least one.bslf. The whok of then' colewial ensbliebeeente root this eeootry oo Ices 8 sum than 1,5000001. a-year; of which charge lie whole, he comeaded, might be saved, if an estimate withers ors, and the made io Minh they were applied were norou'lly laid before the Howse, as 11.4 ought to be. la medicine the establialisneut in Canada, he observed epos the pressisteious sod extravagant nature of such charges as 10,0001. fin the hi attars Staff, 10,900 J. for the rummissireat, 5 9001 fur the Barrack Deper uncut, and 5,8001. fur Postage. lie defied silt most contemptuous despiser of economy t.. shut his r yra to the extravagance of the isaitmentiosrel item. In Nov. Scotia • antes" of waste and profenius equally reiweheusible prevailed. He than recapitulated the gross sums charged open the estimates io tine roan tor the several West I•dia Islenele, sad the ceded Hutch Culusies, of which be maintained that by far Ike greater part would be defrayed vat of the revenues of shoes Colonies, under any fair sad reassemble system of adminhetes doe. Tirerefore, be repeated, that these revenues (ight to I • regularly laid htfure Parliament, together with the estimate. of the expenditure fuseded thereon. This be eoutended wee particular ly necessary in the ease a those Culuoies,whicla had 111.1, I.ke famine a and our other rescind Colonies,. legn titan and coustitation of their own, but were guveraed ea sleety by the Governor sad Commit, who imposed t h e laces, and seemeeled to no oar fee their expeorlitive, bat seat ham, their arcusele to be audited, so that they were not iuguiveel bite swill many years afterwards.— There were several other items which he weigh( am fairgoer the att• utiou of the House by going into. He could not, however, ninths (rum untiring the large sums charged fu r he islands of Gnernecy nod Jersey *lour, erswoutiag to sot I. se thin 25 , 8801 .; elea BB B the items of which are Ora salary of • General (taker. If that was a permmem charge, •hst was ii out brought into the ordivary issimaii ?" It ante Ow eannuirdiiiari estimates for a future sear in, :sided such pre, marten' charges, he sleauld feel it Lis duty to -prose then .o the must derided matins r. la these times of diffirelt y and dis tress such waste of the public mosey was out to be tolerated The efurics fur eelouivl agents and inspectors of holm otilitio, sad that fur Colonel Peters's eet•blisbonee4 ewe oho* ',wires. The hotter •Inosnied to 3.0001 • year, mid every slung which be hid heard uu the subjvct fronesnlrp _ _ officers convinced him of is utter ustl.s.seie. TkR sew 'rot colonial establishments •hii h he LiaJ policed ernariora officers and pliers amounting to at least 1,0118.9111114. strrhogp fir the expenditure of which Nisi*lces rendered ao ac count -, and to continue shish a s)steta was a greater stretch of tooSdenie than the House, or 'has he et least. 'lonia feel warranted in extending to any set of Michlm lie should like to know from the Chancellor of the Exche quer 'hat was the Ma,. i.ig of the charge of 940/. for the managenont of a Divehi loan ? Ne dud not know ehm we had to do with taking upotruttreelses the pi)oseataif the i•terest of this loan, which he really Into red was original raised for yang on war agaiasi this country. Ma wo of so( plelned also . tie classificati on o f th e ddrreeue items Mr. VI 111ERS objected stvontly to the tone taken by the ste,'sensuore In (how . xintoidinaryki riolin'or.. He had fired Hon. Gestleman, whist, must, if nut retracted, damp fore es p. ersr s P hi s 'i n ie n tio n o r tang the sense of the Homo She generous ardour Ammo try the British people se me- upon the el! „ eosseeo so the celestial Aussie. va in nem lanettoty en ocessioa. Mr. D. BROWNE arid% eoplatoed. to the ngeut ti t Ce ) to o , 1,2001. ; th e agen t f o r the Cape of ! Good Mope, AM; the agent for Melia, mot; t h e Poem& Mr. ARBUTRNOT Ilken moved.. spie l , the Army Estes. the Mauritius, 5011 f.; and theorem' roe the Imi3u ordioarier should he ruliffeil tolliet,,aekpletter.....9r dared. boo/. itmdca thete th ere *ere the allowrirces to the ie- Lord BINNING shretlllai die Valetas evajectsug • ,y. c i or , o f m i ll i ' h i fumaii Iliad. , ittg9ittiting b t , • 03111049, ri/111Alr. Int 6 Iv s • tNtl ern it'eltrek "."— tite SPRAIICER Nit tlytLapo d " --- ' Ir, • ~Vpr I twv Iy soossootted to lb. li aise qr • ran. to V .14 fiVil 1 Cosoolosiotolto a oosber or . (beet frolts, vgiy Sills (for sohiele see tAo Lord's Report.) the Emperor of All the PRETENSIONS OW RUSSIA IN THE PACIFIC. Sir J. M ACKINTO6II, referring to the Ukase pub hshed by the Emperor in autumn last, by which he claimed dominion of the waters between south east of Asia and south-west of America from the 51 degree of north latitude, a tract which in one Irises is 5,000 aides wide. forbiddit►tf any 'foreign ship to sail within too italian miles of this, his as serted maritime sovereignty, and knowing, as he (Sir J. M.) did, that the merchants of London were tittiug out vessel, to trade in those forbidden seal, wished to ask the Noble Secretary for Foreign Affairs if the Governmetu•had - teceived any fuzing .. ,GAL .1! .l llama E1Z.1L—.....1111n0m r r- P I .~~.