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- si Ireland ; at least half the gentry of belied were Asmara+. The peels's* situation of the country was such se to demand moos relief. He did not wail* improbabilities; be did not expect to extract sunbeams from cucumbers; hot it was the duty of Ministers to come forward with some remedy fur the present state of things. Mr. H. GURNEY said, though the exchanges were now al par, ty staled by the Honourable Member fur Partarling. ♦ns,, hermit - the thermion of the currency they had been tenth against this coyote?. With respect to the Petition before the House, be thought the Chanced* of slot Emile. lire would lad it rather difficult to assess the tax proposed the Hooourabie Boroned.—(Laughter.)—ls his opinion, the'," should be a general freedom of egress and nee* to and from the kingdom to all classes of subjects, and he par. deprecated any preference to the ric► over the poor. tie was patticularly induced to make that observation by 1•••ing aeon a paragraph in some of the newspapers, by ..irk it appeared that three labooring animism, who were out to embark for Fraser in order work at their business in )•vie, bad beta apprehended at Dover, brought up to Bow. .•revs, and committed to prison for west of bail. He knew la stain. Mode proceeding in that ease was according to law, end be could understood the principle of legislating to pro mo, the exportation of valuable machisery, and to punish • the man who attempted to seduce 'misses to emigrate. But he thought it extremely bard that because a man who lad to maintain himself and reality by the work of his hands lowed it to be more to his advantage to pursue his Minims another couture, he should be punished with imprison ment, while the rich and effluent were at liberty to transport tt•eit wealth and knowledge without restriction, whither. sever they pleased. Mi. DICKINSON supported the prayer of the Petitiosere, and incurred with theme most fully in their opinion of the isys-hief done to the country ty emig►atiou. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he shMild not have addressed the House on the pr. sent occasion, had he not haled that the total *ileum of Ministers on the subject might lead to the belief that his Majesty's G mew had wholly disregarded the subject of tlw complaints of thee► Petitioners. With respect to the tax suggested by the Y. titiouers, and in strongly enforced by the How. Baronet, he Vieright the Hun. Member fur Puttee lingios (Mr. Ricardo), sad the Honourable Member who spoke after him, bad emit, shown the di Mculty of complying with the suggestion, and he trusted the Honourable Baronet would give him (the chancellor of she Exchequer) credit for having exerted him. s If as mach as possible in the way of tazation.—(Laugh. ter )—He had always thought that a laz on absentees would be a popular tax, but he o could think acme which would for frond unobjectionable, and at the same time practicable. • will respect to the observation of the Hon. Member fur Mops (fiir. D. Brown.), on the great number of Irish &b. , centres, he had always understood that the greater part of then were living in England—at Bath, and other places of that kind; so. that • halever their object might be it could not be to escape the taxes, for in England they were subject to merle ►eaver laxative than iu Ireland. Referring to the ol.j. et generally of the loss of tame by al/renters, hr ►ad .ti,erted calculitiona to ►e made as accurately as possible lice rehires from the Tamoffice, and the result was, that the proportion of the d taxes lost by absentees, as in oily as it could he ascertain/id, did not exceed five !boo med pounds n•y-sr, upon a taxation of six or 7,000,0601. Tile slimmer!s hum thus country might be divided g Ily into two clam's: the first cousiated of tto•e lemming who s , a►elled fur amusement, who generally returned in s short and kept up their establislinseets in this country while they were away. Those persons paid their tams generally, snit the !we by them would amount to little or.nuthiag. There was also a mach more numerous ease, consisting of persons who aerie residing abroad from motives o f .economy, and for the arrangement of their affairs.— Among those were many noble and respectable indivi duals, soil from the absence of such persons the greatest portion of tho loss arose. Best he would put it to the House, whetter it would out be harsh as well as impolitic to adopt ally measure with a •iew to compel 'hoot persons to retails to Uns country, in which they had already found it iuconve. mint to live,—(Hear, hrar.)—With respect to the observe. Mons of au Honourable Member (Mr. Gainey) us the law 'affecting artisans, be had no hesitation iu gig it as his 'opinion; that t►e industry of English mcchaeigt ought out do be lucked up,—(Hear, bear, hear.)—With respect to those who tent abroad for economy. and vegetated rather than lived on small incomes, he thought the best way to briag them back was to i.duce rather Mae compel them to retain, and the most powerful, indure.neut would be b/ making Has country comfortable acid limiting. The runipseative dearness of living Su this country, which had h.•en greatly iorressed by the expenses of the late ear, sad the depreciation of the carrrncy, bad occasioned the greater camber of those persons to emigrate. But the restoration of the currency acid the fall of prices had contributes' to re. d o ge the charge of living very considerably; and be was per fectly satisfied, that whet' the comparative scale of expense between living in this country sod on the Contiumit be. came more equalized, there were few English people sho wauld not feel disposed notch rather to live iii F.aglaud, even m a trifling increase of coat, than incur the iescoureaience va:' taverna( oo bad rondo, with the want of accuminmiatios experienced it, uoe••neforlable foreign inns, in order to effect a trifling saving.—(Heir, hear.) Ste ISAAC COFFIN said be wu sure there was Rat a Biliivh Half pm, Officer living us the Continent, of whom it alight eat be said, " bus poverty ard nut bis will cue s rim" Mr. W. SMITH hoprJ the Right Hos. Gentleman (the flatucelloco( the Eitchrtitaei) would bring forward a urea. law,e to alter the law atketiag the emigration of sacebaaies. Mr. D. BHOSTISE explained. Thw t'etatiou awl orthted to be printed. THE SWISS EMBASSY. Mr. WARRE said, under any circumstances he should have telt the siccessity of apologising to the House bit trespassing on its time and attention, hut be felt that necessity more particularly in the pre sent instance, nit rising to being under its considera tion a particular branch-of the general question which lead been so fully discussed on the preceding night. But if the House would favour him with its nitro tom, he promised to confine himself es closely as possible to the particular object of his motion, and to compress his observations into as 'kart a space as he could. The object at which he [milieu lastly aimed was, the reduction of the expen diture under the head of foreign missions. The necessity of such reduction, it it could possi bly be effected, he should take to be admitted, and it would be tritng sti.h the understanding of the !louse to enlarge upon that point. He would come, luerefore, at once to the proposition which he had to snake, which related to the mission to Suit e rland. Picini the year 1750 to 1783, there were four Ministers sent Lam this country to the Swiss Cantons, who received 1.5711. a year. From 1 783 to 1791 the person employed on that mission was a Mr. BMW), who received only 250/. s-year. There war, therefore, a considerable re duction made at that time in the charge fur that !pluton, which it appeared was done at the period when thus country coming out of an expensive war, Mr. Pitt found it necessary to make every possible reduction in the public expenditure. If he blinded to the salary of an American Ambassador, he en treat.il the House to believe, that he neither wished tic subvert the Altniarchy, nor to make war upon the Constitution. The observation of the Noble Lord Londmiderry)on the precediog night almost o mount ed to a veto against any allusion to American diplo macy ; but he must beg leave to suggest the posti faddy, that when his mind was employed upon this subject, Mr. Pitt might have rekrted to the cir cmistaiire which was within his own knowledge, that Dr. Franklin, who was engaged on a mission front the new republic of America to Patia , hod completely out-matched oar • diplomatist there, Lord Stor mont, and that his salary was only one thousand pounds a year.--(Hear, hear, and • murmur.) li e k new n ot what there was in the republic on the other side of the Atlantic to cause such • aensation. bit there did seem to be a constant disposition to revolt from the bare mention of the twine.— IHear.) —He came now t the period when the scale of the embassy to the Swiss Cantons wits changed ; viz. from Ma to 1798. Rut what was the state of Switzerland when Mr. Wickham was sent thither to negotiate wilh the French Govern ment ? It was an isolated spot, almost the only one in Europe *lsere we could plant • Minister for such • purpose. Every surrounding country was either in a state of actual warfare, or conquered and overrun by the French arms. To *hew the im portance of the mission at that time. it was only necessary to read the dispatch of Mr. Wielthutn. dated Berne, Bth March, 1796, to the French • Minister. [The Hou. Gentleman read the dispatch in question.] That shelved the writer to have been delegated by the Ministry of thiscountry to take the first important step towards opening a negociation with the French Government for • general 'medico. lion. The tone and conduct of the French Govern ment prevented the negociation, but the attempt 'hewed the peculiar and important character of th• mission at that period. In 1802 Mr. Moore was sent to the Cantons on • special mission by- the Earl of Liverpool, then Lord Hawksbary ; but he was shortly after recalled, and we had too Minister there afterwards until 1814. Switzerland then be came • point of negociation in the general arrange ment of European affairs, for the organisation of its own territory, and considerable diplomatic bori neis was transacted there. In 1815 there was held an Extraordinary Diet at Zurich. at which Mr. Stratford Canning, on the part of Great Britain. and Envoys from each of the other great Powers of Europe, attended. At a meeting of that Diet a territorial arrangement of Switzerland took Place, Which left it, with a few very trifling alterations, in the same condition in point of territory as it had been in 179 g. That re minded him of an inconsistency in the argument of the Noble Lord on the preceding night. The No. ble Lord asked, whether it was intended to object to sending an Envoy to Wirtemberg and to Ba varis. the territories of both having been greatly in. creased ? But the reverse of that was the cave of Switzerland ; hei territory had been somewhat di minished. Besides which, there was business re quiring a direct communication between those kingdoms and this country ; but he was at a loss to know what direct business there could be between Switzerland and this country. The object of the diplomatic arrangements in 1815 was, to guanintee the neutrality and independence of Switzerland. He knew no mode by which they could be violated, except by an enemy from with out. France violated them in Mt, and others might attempt it again. But if there should be a disposition ou the part of any Power to do an, who ought to be the first to give intimation of it to the Government of this country ? Certainly not the Edvoy to the Cantons, but the Minister, it he had his eyes shout him, who was employed at the Court of that country where prepara tions for such an attempt might be making. He did not, therefore, see the necessity for keeping up any considerable mission there fur that object. The Noble Lord might say that the House most have been aware of all this in 1816, when it sanctioned the estimate. When the Noble Lord obtained leave to bring in the Bill founded on that estimate, his Right Hon. Friend (lair. Tierney) moved for • Committee to inquire into it; but that was refused, - and he suet some persons now opposite who voted fur a CoMmittee ou that occasion.— Other endeavours were made to fix the attention of the House to the subject. but equally in vain. For three years after 1816 Mr. Stratford Canning remained in Switzerland. He had occasionally heard au argument, that diplomacy was generally kept up on a scale of mutual intercourse upon an equal footing; but how was it possible that such could be the case with Switzerland ? She had no fixed mis *Moe ; all her embassies were special ones. Her only missions to this country were in 1914 and 1815, when her neutrality was to be established. That business done, she recalled her special tnis sior.s, and they had never been renewed. It might be asked why the objection to out mission was not raised in 1816. He had to remark in an swer, that with all its collective Went. that House, he did not mean to say it could not, but it never did give its attention to more than one or two lead ing topics at a time. For instance, when the last motion was made by his Hon. Friend, the Member for blidliurst, for the insertion of the late Queen's name in the Liturgy, would any mail have Mid the chalice of • hearing on any other topic? I-le re mcrobered that many important motions were put off on that account. In 1816, they were occupied in debating, not about foreign missions, but whether this country was to be subjected to the continental system of Government, with which the Noble Lord been mightily taken. by • standing army of 99,000 men. In 1817 they were occupied with the suspension of the Llubeas Corpses and other mea burrs connected with it. In 1819 the general elec tion was approaching, and Gentlemen were thinking more of what was likely to happen out of the House than of what was passing in it. The Noble Lord *aid there was an widerstautheig among the Allied Powers that miss a cif • certain rank should be kept up in Switzerland. But twenty months had elapsed, during which no mission was sent out Irom this country, and the period at which it was determined to stud one, was precisely that of the conclusion of what was called by some persons ag the arrange ment," but what others called •• the bargain" be. tweeu the Noble Lord stud she allies who were then sitting near him.—(Heier, and laughter.)—He assured the House that su making his present motion, he had no intention of aiming at the sp. poiottnent of any particaler 'person; his Oita:- lion was wholly to the mission itself.o-(Hear I hear! from the Treasury Couches,)—But if it were true that ally such uoideratiolding as was mentioned subsisted. how was it that so lung a vacaucy took place between the reel of Mr. Can- Mug, and the aFponitineitt of the Gentleman who had lately been sent out ? And what had occurred in that interval ? The address of last June, when • direct pledge was given that every possible re trenchment should be wade to every brooch of the public expenditure. that pledge 44 ought to have been of much greater weight than any un denranding on the subject ; and if properly re presented by the Noble Lord to the Ministers of the other Powers, would no doubt have been ad mitted as • sufficient reason for ■ departure from the previous arrangement. The Noble Lord said there was no difference in the rank, but only in the expense, of this mission be tween 1792 and the present time. His (Me. W.'s) object was solely to reduce the expense. The No ble Lord had, on the preceding night, thrown out a sarcasm on the amount of the saving that could be made in this charge. But, he apprehended, that was a ground from which the Noble Marquis was precluded by his own promise at the outset of the late motions for economy—that any practical sav ing that could be pointed out should not be ob jected to on account of the sum, however small. The manner in which he estimated the amount that might be saved in this instance was as followi: The allowance to Mr. Disbrowe was 1,5951., say 1.600/. ; which, by deducting 10 per cent. according to the late regulation, would be reduced to 1,4401. The charge for the new mission was, to Mr. Wynn. 4,400/. ; the deduction of 10 per cent. being 4401. would make it 3 9601.; deducting Mr. IVynii's ' pension of 1,200/. would leave 2,7601.; which ex ceeded the net allowance to Mr. Disbrowe (1,440/.) by 1,3201. which ought to be saved, and in addi tion thereto, the 1,5001; for the Secretary of Legation, would make a total saving of 2,8201. That was a small sum; but it was worth consider ing, and exceeded the salaries of the two Lords of the Admiralty. Ind that of the reduced Postmaster. Getters!. The Noble Lord appealed to the sanc tion of' Parliament in 1814 and 1815 ; but such war then the iufluence upon the House and the country of recent victories, and of the Noble Lord's retorts from the Congress at Vienna, that they were not in the humour to object to any thing. Many of the votes then agreed to, if proposed at this time for revision, would be very differently disposed of. The Honourable Member concluded by moving a series of resolutions declaratory of the state ■nd expense of the minions from this country to the Swiss Cantons at several periods, which he followed up with • resolution... "That it appeats to this flo•se, that, without darkness to the public service, t►e charge of the mission from this co•atry to the Swiss tiptoes might be reduced to a sum sot exceeding the snowman paid to Lord Robert Fits gerald, daring the time of his being employed oa a eimi tar mission." The Marquis of LoaDowotaint complimented the Hon. Member o• the very fair, clear, and in. telligent manner in which be had made his state ment, and the very liberal manner in which 'he had treated the subject. Consistently with the prin ciple on which he had resisted the motion of the previous night fur • Committee of Inquiry, on the general question, lie could not assent to the proposal of putting this particular branch of it in issue before the whole House. It was a question, the Artless of which was only to be determined upon a knowledge of particulars con. meted with Cabinet secrets, which it would be neither expedient nor proper to divulge. It was moreover necessary to make a stand at this point, because they were threatened with a series of similar motions relative to other foreign missions, so that the result would be that the Executive Government of Foreign Affairs was thereafter to be tarried on en the floor of that House, and Ministers most either cancel every appointment of a diplomatic character, or shew cause why it should be contionect, by stat ing to the House the peculiar views of policy by which they were governed in sending out any parti cular mission. That, he apprehended, was • course which would not be adopted in any Govern mot. not even in that of America, which had become the favourite topic of encomium with Gentlemen opposite. The Legislature of that country had even recently set an example of perfect confidence in the Executive Government, by placing at its dis posal a large sum for the probable missions that might be sent to the different South American States, without ever thinking of calling upon the President to particularise the nature and grounds of the several missions or the proportionate ex pense of each. The conclusion of the Hon. Member had been molt strangely drawn from his series of facts. It was evidently founded chiefly on the case of Mr. Braun, who had filled the office fron► 1783 to 1792, at the humble salary of 250/. • year. On the preceding night he (Lord L.) had said that that person must have been sent there under a sort of official coodemnation to be transported for some diplomatic offence. He had since had the curiosity to inquire into the history of that person's mission; and from the result he did not wish to see any precedent drawn from his core. There was not a single line of that person's corres pondence in the office that was not in the French language. Ile was •n half-pay Swiss Officer, of very good character, sod had been Private Secretary to a former Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, and must have been appointed to that mission as being one which presented but little important busi ness, in the absence deny better means of providing for him. The Noble Lord then proceeded to jut,- tify the keeping up of the embassy on the same foot ing as it had been placed on at the settlement of the peace, on the ground of the necessity of main taming our influenee in that country undi.' minislied. And to show that it was intended to continue it on the same scale after Mr. S. Canning's removal, he read a ropy of the dia. patch to that Gentlemen, directing bin to an nounce to the Swiss Government his recd, said reciting the explanation he was to give of the delay of the arrival of bin appointed sue ' eraser (Mr. F. Cathcart) then attached to the embassy at St. Petersburgli. Circumstances afterwards occurred to prevent the fulfilment of Mr. Cothran's appointment, and Mr. Disbrow, was sent thinker as Charge d'Affaires, ad interim. He had thus given • full explanation, perhaps too foil.—(Hear, hear.)—Bet in certain positions it was impossible to tell a little without telling every thing. If the House believed that s Committee of the House could conduct the diplomatic concerns of the country better than the Ministers of the Cro•N they would vote for the motion of the Hon. Gentleman. But he apprehended if they eu tertained the present motion, they were only in the fire stage of the inquiry, and the Hon. Gentleman himself could feel it to lie his duty to move an adjournment, for it would he neees.ary that the Howie should have the *foie of the correspoodeuce ...• . . , with the Swiss Cantons since the Congress of Vienna ; indeed he apprehended they * must g o further, and call for the collateral correspondence. If the Swiss Cantons were glow neglected, he ap prehended that should • war break out, some other interests would be found to have sprung up there. He trusted the House would tint quit the paths which their ancestors had trod, which had conducted the country to power, glory, and honour ; and above all, that they would not adopt • principle which was impracticable in the most democratic States. Lord NoartatinV said he was not without hopes, notwithstanding the threats of the Noble Lord, to see the day not when the Noble Lord would crape to fill the antiunion of Foreign Secretary of State, hut without an Envoy to the Swiss Cantons, at an expense of 4,0001. • year. His opposition was to the appointment, and was not founded on any per sonal motives. He had not the honour to have any knowledge of the Him. Gentleman, who, no question, was perfectly competent to fill the situation, and even perform the duties, should any be required of him. He was afraid that the Noble Lord was about to disclose to the House some state secret, but the closest Foreign Secretary would acquit the Noble Lord, for he bad acquainted the House with no thing. He called the attention of the House to the fact, that in Switzerland, where no case of expense had been made out, the salary had been trebled. Mr. WAILER then briefly replied. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, he should move the previous question on the declaratory Re solution., and meet the last resolution with • direct negative. The House then divided, when there appeared.... _ . Fir 'be Motioo 141 Against it Majority for Mi.i.len lud DISTRESS IN IRELAND. On our return to the Gallery we found Mr. Gout.nons on his legs. He said that he apprehendrd too opposition would be made to the proposition which he intended to submit to the House. It was intended that the distressed people of Ireland, instead of having food given them gra tuitously, should be enabled to procure it by their own exertions. It was well known to Gentle men connected with Ireland, that there were large tracts of country in which the common,- cation was very imperfect, and from this im peded communication had arisen many of those evils of which the country had to complain.— It tended to encourage Crime of every description, and rendered the haunts of the illicit distiller im pervious to those by whose exertions alone it could be put down. The Bill which he proposed to bring in would place at the disposal of the Lord Lieute nant a sum of money, to be expended in the forma tion of roads and commuroictitimis ; not under local authority, but under the responsibility of Government and the superintendence of officers appointed by it, acid by whom every shilling issued would be account ed fur. He had not inserted any compulsory clause for the repaymeut of the money, relying upon its being a measure gratefol to the country Gentlemen of Ireland ; but when the works were completed, the accounts would be submitted to the Grand Jury, leaving it to them to say what proportion of the expense should be repaid. As much of the value of the measure depended on dispatch, he hoped that if the House acquiesced in the mea sure, they would consent to forward it with all pos sible dispatch.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Sir WILLIAM DI CRESPIONT expressed his satisfsction at the measure, ■nd he trusted the relief afforded would be permanent. Mr. SPRING Rica said, the measure was not only expedient. but the wisest that could be adopt. ed. There was no choice ; either the people must be left to starve, receive gratuitous relief, or be re lieved in the present mode. He was satisfied the gentlemen of Ireland would freely answer to the call made upon them by the Right Hon. Gentleman, and take care that the country should suffer no lose by the exertions now made. He took the pre sent opportunity of expressing his feelings of grati tude at the exertion made by the British people for the relief eci his suffering countrymen. On the pert of Government it was an act of duty, but on the part of the people it was a mat k of that great, good, and generous conduct. which he trusted would be repaid by the grateful feelings of the lash people. Sir E. O'BRIEN approved of the measure. and expressed his gratitude for the relief afforded by the people. No sooner was the distress known than a subscription was entered into, and on the following day remittances were made for their relief. Mr. Hurts wished to know what counties the publio works were to be carried on in ? Mr. COULBURN replied, in those counties where the dirress was found to be most prevalent. Mr. Baouttiest expressed his approval of the measure, though he by no means meant to commit himself to approving the tneasures of Government with regard to Ireland. and more particularly as to the time when the Government turned their atten tion to the subject. Mr. GouLonan said Government had inquired into the distress, and had taken steps to apply a re medy. He should be perfectly ready to meet any motion which the Learned Gentleman might make on that subject. Mr. BROUGHER had no intention of making any motion himself, but he desired not to preclude himself from supporting any which might be made. Mr. Gaerram said the money ought to be laid ' out with caution, for it might happen that roads were not wanted in the districts where the distress existed. Heconcurred in the expression of gratitude to the people of this country for their prompt assist once, but he thought the Government could hardly be acquitted of blame, as the distress had been known since January, and this was the first measure adopted for their relief. The Bill was them, ordered to he brought in. The CH•NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved for leave to bring in a Bill to extend to Great Bri. trio the powers of the Commissioners of inquiry into the Revenue (Ireleod). After some conver.atioe, in which the following Members participated. Mr. Hume. Mr. %Nikes, Mr. Wallace, Mr. Spring Rice. and General Hart, leave was granted. The 801 l was accordingly brought in, read a first time, and ordered to be read a se cond time on Monday next. The other Orders of the Day were then dis posed of, and the Hens, adjourned at HALP•PAET ELsres o'CLocc. sitsontrr Of 14 who villa tor Mr. Leonard's Mdtion for It ("OT TO. Ire to inquire into the expenditure of the Third ( . 11.1..j the Cord List, for A tnhassuilurn and G oaul. , row eider• whether stir ft,dttetitto entol.l he made in thit f, pri.P, tend the ■m•atot h.ooeht to the Coosoludate I as disected by the Act for g I service.—May I. Althorp, Vise. Formal.% Lord W. Nevrorm, R. Ir. Aran.. y, S.r Jobs F.iti r, T. Werailachan, J. Anson, Hun. G. Fitzrriy, Lord C. Osborne, Lord F. A •1.11, W. Fetlierscirse,SirG.R.l /rd. W. Atu rcrornby, Hs. J. Groom nor, Hon. R. Price, R. Vardert, Sir F. Gooney. R. H. Pm. F. Boughton, Ste C. R. Guise, Sir W. Palmer, Colonel Busighey, thr J. F. Great', I'. 'rainier, C. F. Brougham, H. Grant, J. P. Pares, Thos. Bright, H. Griffith, J. W. Pone, H. Barnard, Vise. Gratis'', J. Pow. r, R. Birch, J. Gaskell, B. Poole's, Hap. 17, Rearm, J. Howard, Hon. W. Robert., A. W. BBearprHitt,'SH.°A.L.H.G. H ome , ' and, W. Rivard ,, 11. (O il lonil Bury, Vile. Hill, Lord A. Rice, T. S. Belgrave, Vise. Heatheotc.G. J. Robertson, Sir G. Browne, D. Mosby, R. Rieliford, W. Bernal, IL Hoilrhinsurr, Hon. 'tombola C. Becher, W. W. C H. Ridley, Sir M. W. Blake, Sir F. Honywood, W. P. Smith. Hen R. Butterworth, J. Hurst, R. Searli ti, .1. Bye% Geo. Hughes, Colon.' Stanley, Lord Baring, Sir Thos. Illobhusite, J. C. Sefton, Lord Baring, H. James, IV. Smith, War. Crompton, Sam. Jervoise, G. P. Sykes, D. Calera., J. Kennedy, T. F. Sehnert, Sir J. Calera', J. R. Leihhridge,Sir T. Smith, s. Cockburn, R. Lockhart, J. I. Stuart, Lord J. Coke, T. W. Lamb, Hon. G. Scutt, J. C•A•Pikl l s Ho. G.P. Lalerillerr, Ralph Tierney, Rt. Hon. G. Campbell, W. Lester, B. L. Tirclifield. Marg. Cosier, John Lemon, Sir W. Townsliend, Lord C. Cavendish, Lord G. Langston', J. H. Tivisturk, Marquis Cairesdish, Lord C. Lloyd, Sir E. Tynte, C. Caveadish, Lord H. Lashiagion, Dr. Westein, C. C. . Clifton, Vise. Larosebe, It. W.KI, Aklermas Carew, R. S. Musick, J. B. Wskull, Sir H. Coneausim, L. Macdonald, James Webhi•, E. Calvert, C. Moberly, John William., John Caulfield, Hou. H. Mackintosh, Sir J. Willis ms,So H. Coffin, Sir I. Martin, J. Whitmore, I'. W. De CrespisobSirW.Marjoribanks, S. Woof,. J. A. Davies, Cul. Morays, Sir T. H hii Weed, W. H. Defuse'', W. J. Marrynit, J. Whitbread, S. C. Denman, T. Mahon, Hon. S. Ehekinson, W. Moore, Peter TELLERS. Dirndl's, C. Newport, Rt. Hon. Leonard, T. B. Ebriagrou, Vise. Sir John Caere', T. Ellice, Ed. Normanby, Vise. PAIRiD OM Ells, Hos. G. A. Neville, Hun. R. Romell, Lord J. kergostin, Sir R. C. Nurses!, Lord Phillips, G. • _ 1111 THE BEER TRADE. • The following Petition, presented on Wedneorlty night, iii the House of Commons, by Mr. HL!. CMOS, does not appear to have been correctly given in some of the Papers. The following is copy To the Honourable t►e CONIIIIIOIII of the United Kiagdoes of Great Britain and Ireland, is Parliament assembled, the boilable Petition of the andeisigned Magistiates, acting is and fur the Parish of St. James, Westminster ; Saswrrn, That the present discretionary power of licensing houses is wholly ineffectual for the purpose of keeping such houses to good order, but that it Ins n most premien** effect is rendering property insentre, and iu pruderies monopolies ins she supplyist of this public with beer, and consequently in re-boucles its price and reducing its quality. It is ineffectual for the purpose of checking disorders: be. cause, Ist, it yields bet one measure of paaishoseat for the most trifling fault or the deepest crime, via. the relied of the I license; ►ecause, 2dly, she power/ is may is ope ration on one day Ily. w keen °feelers committed some after that day are out cognisable order the above power for nearly a year, la which time, If the misconduct be sot for genes or forgives, penislseseat is easily eluded by chaorme the teasel ; hemmer, 341 y, if the limiest be forfeited, It is not t►e tenant who materially suffen, but the house-tuner, who may be inset-cut. It renders property isseenre, because the grant or refusal of • license is depeodaot upon the uncontrollable will of t►e licensees, who, it is proved, have sometimes refused, epee corrupt motives; sod by such unjust refusal a victualling ►ouse provided at great cost, may net 4)54 be modelled worthless, but as estate may he depopulated fur waist of that necessary eurveniesee. It produces monopoly, and consequently enhances the price ur reduces the quality of beer, or both; because the large some paid to ladividuals for the privileged or hemmed stations, can oily be repaid by such s■eaus. lo this seer meet your Petitioners are sapported by the Report of the Committee of your Honourable House ow the price end qua lity of beer, made in 1819, which says, "That • brewery supported by purchased licensed boners, must deteriorate their beer;' that " the practice is increasing; nod that at poor most be contented with such liquor se is retailed at licensed houses, whatever may be the quality, the price, or the measure." _ The excess of price hereby ocesolosed, your Petitiesers represent operates as • poll tax epos almost eve', atm Xs the country, but it bears most heavily epos the most labs 'ions part of the comorotty ; one penny per quart addi tional w►iaging from them a porticos of their earnings sue eiest to pay for their rent, the elothieg of their families, Sr the support of • child, and, i■ the aggregate, aroosatiag I levy of above four millious sterling to a monism clue to that of the British Government uu longer stoat thou in the reign of George I. Your Petitioners, therefore, submit, that their power of coatrolltag miscosducted public-houses, and the Iterating sew houses, as the public wards may require, ought not to be confined to owe day in the year. They also submit that the refusal of li , and the penal decisions of Magistrates against victuallers, ought nut to be exempt from appeal. They further submit, that with dee precautions adopted to cheek usiseoaduct immediately, and to prevail theopening of public-boosts in improper place•, the right of a Me trade is beer may be restored with iocelculable advantage to the indostrowsa classes, sad without any danger to the public peace or morals. They also admit, that if it be deemed expedient and jest to restrict the opening of new houses, *bit a might compete with those already establis►ed, that end would be most bene ficially accomplished by imposing a duty payable tut:over*. went o■ the license of such houses. Your Petitioners submit the above propositions to the wisdom and paternal care of your Hosuaishle House, in the hope that your Honourable House may restore to the public geue►ally the right of a free trade is beer, aud to the vic tualler in particular the protectios of laws, tostead of the wills of tudividuals. And your Petiiinsers will ever pray, (Signed) J. T. BARBER BEAU3IONT. SAMUEL JACKSON. GEORGE ALDER SON. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. wpar for the relief oiri his suffering countrymen. On the meat y our Petitioners are su pp orted b y the Report or toe 8- part of Government it was an act of duty, but on the Committee of your Honourable House as the price midges. on, lily of beer, made is 1819, which ram "That a brewery ,i s port of the people it wa. a mat kof that great, good, supported by purchased licensed bosses, must deteriorate fl y and generous conduct, which he trusted would be their leer;' that .. the practice is increasing; aed that the ce repaid by the grateful feelings of the Irish people. poor mast be contented with such liquor as is retailed at a Sir E. O'Bitiao approved of the measure, and l i c ensed houses, whatever ma y be the q ualit y , the prier, or l id expressed his gratitude fur the relief afforded by theTmhe"esure." the people. No sooner was the distress known r • e xcess of pries hereb y occaslmed, your Petitioners represent operates as a poll tax epos almost every man 111 for then a subscription was entered into, and on the the country, bat It bears most heavily epos the most !rho- i ye following day remittances were made fo r their relief. tious pert of the commerity; one peony per quart addi- ble. Hume wished to k nowhet ties the i's w Coun ti es titansl wriagiag from them a porno. of their earnings sot. tient to pay foe their rent. the clothing of their families, or public works were to be carried on in ? to the support of • child, and, in the agg remote animating to re Mr. Goy tenet( replied, in those counties where an annua l l ev y o f above four mellioois sterliair to a revesue fs- the distress was found to be most prevalent. equal to that of the British Government uo longer time than els Mr. BROUGHAM expressed his approval of the in the rely, of George I. o f measure, though he by nu means meant to commit Your Petitioners, therefore, submit, that their pewee of costrothag mismoducted publoc.houres, and the liceouse ry himself to approving the measures of Government with regard to Ireland, and more particularly as to bemecoliliresedlomost he li d d ay bl i c n w tbe aul y s ter m . " require, ought sot to ra, as the time when the Government turned their atten- They else submit that the refusal of heroism and the o i_ lion to the subject. I pest decisions of Magistrates against victuallers, ought sot log Mr. Goutatifte said Government had inquired l° be ""`'Pt Gam appeal. into the distress, and had taken steps to apply are- They further submit, that with doe precautions adopted to is -cheek usiscondoct immediately, and to prevent theepentag i• It.. medy. He should be perfectly ready to meet all ul public-houses in improper place., the right of a frig i h e . motion which the Learned Gentleman might make trade is beer may be restated with incalculable advantage n. on that subject. to the induct - loos classes, sad without any danger to the h.. Mr. Baoundast had no intention of making public peace or morals. • rd any motion himself, but he desired not to preclude t They . also h enbtatt i , tha o i r if it be iw ileemedz red aae s, .ie u wahtt situ josh .i p r ie r S. loinself from supporting soy which might be made, o o tt re h s t s b ri" t al e rtad "e y n es " t g abushed, that tad would be most bear. i w _ Mr. GRATTAts said she money ought to be laid licially accomplabed by imposing a duty pe)able ly GoVitrl. i n _ out with caution, for it might happen that muds meal cm the license of such houses. ii, were not wanted in the districts where the distress Your Petitioners submit the above lii pro b r e os H it o i s ols to s the i v 1 e'isttd. He concurred in the expression of gratitude • re i ree sd l m bs an t o ur Honourable t H er o n a m o l u c r a a r b e le of H y u o u u s t e may restore 'i to the psbtic c. to the people of this country for their prompt assist- se - moony the right of a free trade is beer, and to the vie- he a bk r en te lio e s:w , iheineeq l.t u u ßcsii t tiniiii h rice e dAus. t a h .; : f: u niib. g iueLl h e:oi t inityo t e: l) : r emar, : itdd o iite v it e ;oe r eE t th urn dietic e siiit t i t rrs t aori c wisi o uga u shEi l ial d tahidnme h . a ob r i t e l veire l sd y nt ( wailer in particular the protectioo of laws. issued of the wills of iudivideals. And your Petitioners will ever prey, (Signed) J. T. BARBER BEAUMONT. we measure adopted for their relief. MANUEL JACKSON. GEORGE A LUERSON. uo The t fo ai r u le t a i v ie e t i o ,o b w r e i r n s g o i f n t a he lli c ll o t m o ni ex igs te i n o d ue t r o s G of re i a n t g ß ui r r i y . • If into (ease n f t tth:eeerarsseßoepoviseern fronted . t c i u o c e i n p v ( Ta e l t r r ie r : de a l a: Bill eioli)i,. Mr. i n Hume, which d FOREIGIV INTELLIGENCE. —...... no hethefir: b Banker, following h t - Mr. Wallace. Mr. Spring Rice, and General Hart, DUTCILMAI L. CRIRNOWITR. APRIL 21. ~ n. Ile in, rend a first time, and oradaesredaccotorbiengrendroaugse• The Turkish troops reatieue to become more minorrociii Moldavia, and we leans that 30,000 men bare adrenco ,l an coed time on Monday next. ' s a ndy to the Pruth. la the same Metier the en The ►other Orders of the Day were then die- h e posed of, dthe real Reuse adjourned at HALF•PAST The Russian fleet is the Black flea is well cAtupPed. "J b li i a ma tut u, to o se a s: r i hon tree t p he s y to h .r e v n ia o , t it e a le a th eteZ ex upo set u r l dheiksia"ans. ready to put to see. It is said that it sill take on board r ce &Ave:, o'Ci.occ. coasiderable body of troops. A few weeks will make so • . L.,,.. ...-, i DUTCH MAIL CRIRNOWITZ, APRIL 21. Ttit Turkish troops reatieue to become more numerens is Moldavia, and we leer that 30,000 ono have ad,anc ,,l Seedy to the Pratt+. to the same autism Ike 'Teas con• times to seed troops to Persia, as a cheek opts the tabs. ►itssts, oe whom they ►are not asueb coallikotte. The Russian Sert is the Black Sea is well eqesiPP44. sod ready to put to sea. It is said that it sill take on board I coosidevable body of troops. A few weeks =tic so d P 3 I