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r_ I - 77 IMPERI,IL P.IEL.F.:MI.::T. --. ti )UsE OF LORDS, I , .'..iosr, MAICH 14. The Bi•hop of Os;ory tool: the molts and his seAt, as one tit' the Kish Representative Prelates. Counsel were ritraily heard respethieg the Scots Appeal cause, Howie e. Merry, paupers, viz. toe Hon. Mr. Abercromby, as second Counsel for the Appellant ; and Messrs Adam and Horner, for the Respondent. Mr. Noland was shortly heard in reply. After which, The LORD CHANCELLOR moved to ad journ the farther consideration of the case till Mon day. which was ordered accordingly. Crawford s. Coutte—With respeCt to this Ap peal Cause, the farther Consideration of it being re named— Lord ELDON rose, and delivered some farther legal opinions 'Upon the case; and concluded by moving. as the decision of their Lordships,' a resolu tion of some length, the purport of which, as we could collect, was of a mixed nature, tending partly to affirm, will tei reverse, and partly to remit, the decree of the Snits Court, for farther consideration. Mr. Alcoek, from the Treasory, presented an Ac- count of the Distribution of the Publie Monies. foe-I the year ending sth of January last ; which Wos eito; dered to he on the table. A few pulilie bills were brought up from the Commons by Mr. Alexander ; among which wrip. the Irish Sugar Duty Bill, and the Woollen Matt`. (*Borers' Regulation Bill,whieh were severally real' a first time. • I The Hon. Mr. Lambe, brought up a private Bill, which was also real a first time. On the Motion of Lord HOLLAND, the hill to declare the law with respell to Witnessio : ‘iig liable to answer, with the amendments made in the Committee, was ordered to be printed. The Bills upon the Table were forwarded in their several stages ; among thew, the Marine Mutiny Bill, the Greenland ships Quota Bill, the Corn Ex portation, and the Irish Malt Regulation, severally passed through Committees of the whole House, without Amendment, end were reported. Lord Cnilingwoed's Annuity Bill was read a se cond time, and committed for Monday. :.'7.: The Ordcr 01 the Day being read, for the cern '''i• wsitment of the Bill for the more effeCtuol dis covery of truth ft one Witnetses, Earl S VANIIOPE shortly expressed his wish to . postpone the Committee on the Bill, till Monday, as time Learned Chief drotice of the Court of King's Bench wished. he trolorstood, to take a part in the discussien of the Bill, and cool." not attend on this e: day. lie then moved to discharge the Order, and renew the same for Monday, with a summons of thrit Lordships, which was ordered accordingly. liie Noble Earl said a few words ocross the Table, in an under-tone of voice, respofting his wish, as the Declaratory Bill would doubtless be printed to-morrow, that the discussion of both Bills may take place on the same day, bet founded no Motion upon it. After the dispoeh of some routine business, their lailidships adj iusseed 61 Monday. reotoiE OF COMMONS. Lora gtanlet presented a Petition from the Malt isteets. &e. of the Beteciegh of Preston, praying relief irnm certain reorittiOns imposed by the 421 cf the ' Sing e--Ordered to lir en the table. totr. Paul put off his motion relotive to an addi. thane' chorts against the Marquis of Wellesley, to Monday. .. 411 ' A person from the Treasury presented an account, shewirg how the monies voted for the service of the year 1805 had been disposed of, under the several heads, so tar as relates to Great Britain.—Ordered to lie on the table. A person from the British Musuern presented an ACC , 'Ullt t 4 the Expeudiririe of that lnuitutio i, for the rear 1505, an .1 F....tini.ues, for the year 130,i. Ordered to lie on the Table. ei re sT. AR TILLERY Mr. Calcraft pics•!nted, pursuant to Order of the House, an arcoont of the effettive strength of the Royal At iillery, and of the Corps of Drivers, on the Ist to Janus!, in each year, from the Ist of Joitraiy, i POO , distinguishing the total amount of the force serving abroad and at home. Also, a si milar account of the effettive strength of the Corps of Engineers, &c. wh ch were ordered to lie on the \ table, and to be printed. lit' Scotch Bankrupt Lao Bill was read a second ' • time, no the motion of Mr. iVm. Dundas, and or dered to he committed on Monday. •I'he English Sugar Drawback, the Irish Sugar Drawback. and the Woolleo MonufoCture Penalty Suspension Bills, were severally read a third time, passed, and ordered to the Lords. The Amoican Wool Bill passed through a Com- I Atiftlite ;to he reposed en Monday. Mr. Aix alder b. night up the Report of the Mutiny Bill, women Wall oared to, and the Bill ordered to be read a third tame, as Monday. I wooot•eost M kNUFAC note COMMITTER. Earl TEMPLE, pursuant to his notice on a for mer night, mod, ''that a Ccinmittee be appointed to take into consideration the various Alts relating to the ‘Vocolen Monufadttire." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, i in seconding the Motion of his Noble Friend, took the tsportuoity of staring the motives which idle eecest him on the occasion. Three years had elapsed since a Committee It id been appointed to take this importont soliOift into consideration. No final orratizement had get taken place, and th e Sospess 1 siins Bill hail been, from time to time, renewed. However nejtitionahle such an expedient might be, as a remedy for temporary evils, it was peculiarly so 1 in this instance, where the evil would be every day growing worse and worse. He trusted, that when the Committee should make their Report to Parlia ment, the House would look the question in the face, and come to such a decisi n upon it, as would put an • mud to the irritation witch was keut alive in the i colliery, by the frequent renewal tithe Suspension 1 tiit'. The l'ltCTeSt ot the manuraCturer, employers, and employed, and that of the country, was the some, via. to promote the growth and prosperity of the mannfoeure. Mr. HENR Y LASCELLES admitted. that the Suspension Bill had, in some morsore, contributed to the irritation which esisted us the country, but asserte.l, apt it had been originally excited by the penalties given, by certain olisolete stwotes. which were no,ltingar applicable to the marsufadure. and wh.:cs rendered the Suspension Bill necessary. , He &tasted the 11. a t would now look at the .strojelt in a bead and comprehensive manner, so as to put it completely at rest. He had always been of opinion, that any me.isure on the subjea ought to have ori ginated with Government. Atter a few words, in explanation, from Lord Henry Petty and Mr. Laacelles, the motion was agreed to. The Committee was then appointed, and ordered to meet to-morrow in the speaker's Chamber ; that five be a quorum ; that they have leave to sit, notwithstanding any adjournment of the House ; and, on the suggestion of Mr. Las celles, that they have power to repeat their ob.erva tions and opinions on the matters referred to them, from time to time, to the House. The several Petitions of the Woollen Manufac turers and Cloth Workers of York, Yorkshire, Lan caster, Wiltshire, szomersetshire, and Gloucester shire, were then referred to the Committee. Mr. ALEXANDER reported the following Bills: —the British Militia Pay Bill, the I►ish Militia Pay Bill, the Stelalt •rs Militia Officers, Allowance Bill, and the Militia Adjutants Bill, which were severally ordered to be read a third time on Monday. TORTOL% FREE PORT BII.L Mr. ROSE, as he found the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Temple) meant to persist in the measure for establishing a tree port in Tortola, begged deter, for the bei ter illutaration of the subjed, to move for the follown g accounts, to the production of which no objeniiiii, he understood, would be nude :—" An account of the amount of all exports from Great Britain to the Island of Tortola, for the last seven years, distinguishing British from foreign goods; also an account of the quantity of sugar, rum, and cofee, exported from the Island of Tortola to our foreign settlements ;" and copies of all orders of His Majesty in Council relative to the execution of the Ael of the 42d and 43d of His Majesty.— Ordered. INDIA TRADE. Mr. Alderman PRINSEP, in submitting the mo tion of which he had given notice to the !louse, de clared his object to be no less, than to enable His Ma jesty's Ministers and the House to discover the pro portion of the trade with India that was possessed by neutral nations, particularly by America. This vast proportion he conceived to be un iatural, when he considered the expense of blood and treasure which it cost th's country to acquire and maintain its East India settlements, when he looked to the anxiety now excited with regard to it, and the proportion of the populatine, and of the naval strength of the country, required for its defence. He conceived, that the document he was to move for, would show, that neutral nations had an infinitely larger share of the Indian trade, in the proportion of three to one, than this country or the faculty of the India Coni pany could ac:omplish. Ile did rot wish any alter. ation to be made in existing Treaties, which would, at any time, be impolitic, but never more so than at present. It the catital emoirked is toss trade were not to be so applied, the ma iura,llures in Leslie would decline. We were now in the s tuation, that our settlements in India were snip cried by stints sent out by the nations of Europe ai.d America. This trade was chießy cart ied on for taw materials, purchased with specie; se that our territorial revenues were, in a great degree, supported by the loteign trade. The • neutral traders had free ingress and egress, and so they ought, to our settlements; but was that a rea son that three-fourths of the benefit of the trade should he transferred from the mother country, merely for want of competition in carrying it on ? This would be evident to the House, when inform ed, that in one port alone, the number of shipping in the trade had been trebled, and the tonnage aug mented in a greater proportion. Was it not fair, un der such circumstances, to have some document before the House to refer to? There had been, in the port of Calcutta, in the years 1800 and 101, twenty-six Americas ships; in 1807 and 1803, thirty-two ; in 1803-4, twenty-seven; and, last year, twenty-nine ; besides ten Portuguese, two Danish, and one Spanish. The exports of Calcutta, in the year Ixo3-4, were nearly three millions, exclusive of the exports of the Company, and these in six articles only. The quan tity of bullion imported into Bengal. in four years, exclusive of what had been sent out by the Company, amounted to nineteen millions of dollars; last year it amounted to five millions three hundred thousand dollars. The paper he was to move for, would expose, more fully, the details of this subjea. He disclaimed any concert with any individual or individuals, in bringing forward this motion. Ile and his fellow traders knew their duty too well, not to wait until His Maj..sty's Ministers should have time to give this important sabjea the consideration it required. It was not his intention, therefore, to found any resolution capon it. tie could not conceive what ohjettion could be made to its produnions ex cept the trouble of making it out, or that it might reveal to the private traders, circumstances thought necessary to withhold from them. But the intelli gence this document would contain was to be found in every public paper containing the arrivals and departures of vessels, and in the monthly statement in The Calcutta Gaulle. lie thereto,' moved, " That there be laid before the House a list of all the ships and vessels navigating to the Rest Indies, whether under Portuguese, or other European and A mei ;can colours that enteteo inwards, and cleared outwards, in the ports of Calcutta, Madras, Bombay, Surat, Columbo, Prince of Wales's Island, and their sub ordinate Custom (louses, from the years I SOO-1, inclusive, distinguishing each year, with the amount of their tonnage, ard the value of their cargoes also, an account of all British ships, not chattered, that cleared out of the ports of Great Britain, for India, during that period." Mr. FRANCIS availed himself of the opportunity of seconding the Motion to dectare, that the Hon. Mower, in bonging it forward, did not Aa under any concert with himself, or with any outs r pernso, to his knowledge. If India alone were cancerned, he thought nothing could tend vs much to its benefit, as to throw open its ports to Europe. He understood the Hon. Gentleman to decl ire, that notwithstanding the advantages possessed by the East India Company, the profits of the trade were, in a high degree, t.iken away by Neutral Nations. kle should ask the lion. Direaur opposite (Mr. Grant), a few questions ort Iti,;., s i•i:st. - 1.;:e a,3 'Cant. Oh 1.,;(1 je :r. A If slow. had stated. that is a few y-ars a MI ro of nineteen mil lio..s of dollars had hem, imported into India dam foreigti nations, and in a short tree it woliftl apfr•ar that seven millions had also been imported form this country. It appeared, however, th it there tros no circulation of specie in our settle:to:Jos, every pa,- ment from Government having been made for some jean back in paper, and under such circemstances, that it was not then his intention to twice. This was a problem that required solution. He should ask ton of the Hon. Dire tor, if he knew where these 19,000,000 came from ? whether he thought they came from Poi tiigal, Denmark, America, or the neutral nations? because, if they did not, three WAS hut one other pla.:e whence they could come, nano ly, this country, by British Merchants carrying on the trade in neutral bottoms. Another question he should ask was, if the trade were carried on, Bona . aile, by the neutral nations, upon what ground of policy, of prudence, or of justice, it was, that the private trader was excluded from a traffic allowed to foreigo nations? The last question he had to ask was, where those cargoes were for the most part finally disposed of? for he had some suspicion himself, that the greatest part of them was dis posed of in British ports. Mr. Alderman PRINSEP explained, by declar ing, that the Hon. Gentleman had col realy repre sented what he had stated in prefacing his motion. Mr. CHARLES GRANT requested to trouble the House with a few observations in answer to those of the Hon. Gentleman on the opposite side. It had been observed, that the Americans had a free coinmerce to the East Indies. and that the trade of this country to that part of the world was limited. These privileges were allowed to countri e s in amity with Great Britain, for the best reasons ; for if we were to go to colonial exclusion, it would only ex clude our commodites from these countries. There were still other, and stronger reasons why Foreign Countries should have a free trade to India ; they can trade with much less expence to themselves, and much greater security, than we could. Under these considerations, he conceived much greater ad .vantages must arise to this country firma free trade to:foreigners in amity with us, than could possibly be derived if the commerce of that country were open to all the British navy. With respell to the quantity of bullion imported, as it was said, from this king,dono and foreign countries, it had been made a question, whether it were all British. or in part foreign? The I lon. Gentleman assured the I louse, that it would appear the much greater part of it was from foreign neutral powers, but most particularly from America. They purchase the cern modifies at the India market, and carry them, lay a circuitous rout, to the different ports in their way home ; and therefore this country must be verrsensi ble of the great importance of this trade. The • lon. Gentleman (Mr. Francis) wished to know where the greater part of the bullion imported into that coun try went to, as he thought there was no circulation ler it, paper money being almost the only thing used in the principal towns and seats of the government? He assured the Hon. Member thet it would appear that in the interior nothing but specie was in circula tion, rio manufiaurer would take paper for his goods, no labourer would take paper for his Labour, and therefore in this way was the bullion disposed of. Tee paper money was only taken in the seat of governmmt ; in fir this subjea was accounted for. As to what became of the cargoes, a great deal of them were carried under American colours, to va rious ports, and constituted a cnnsiderable branch of trade in India. The Hon. Gentleman was of opinion, that, in a vet y few years, this suOjeift should go through a very serious discussion ; and, there , fore, though he had no objeaion to the produaion of the papers called for, yet he considered, that at present, it was not a question necessary to be gone into ; hut when the time should come for a full in vestigation, he ventured to say, that the East India Company's conduit upon this subjea, would be found satisfaitory to the House, in a high degree; and that it wculd appear, that it WAS by an niter course with that country, through foreigners, that 1 the balance must be in favour of Great Britain ; and it would be seen, that their revenue was raised 30 per Cent. by giving this enlargement to foreign I neutral colours. He hoped the Gentlemen would keep their minds open for any advice which might be suggested upon the subjea hereafter; and when it came properly before the House, that it should meet a fair, full, and candid discussion. Mr. FRANCIS, in explanation, said, that he certainly understood there was a great scarcity of specie in India ; and Marquis Cornwallis had said, that' he could not procure specie to pay the army, who had five months' pay in arrcar, without taking it from the ships irtvested for China. Mr. BitOGDEN thought the produaion of the papers very necessary. Mr. ATKINS said, if his Hon. Friend would consent to withdraw his Motion, he should move for a paper, which would answer every end t would be more saosfaanry, and give a complete and general view of the subjea. He then proposed to move for an account of the Imports mad Foports, to . and from the E tst Indies, by Amer;can,Portoguese, and other neutral States, in amity with Great Britain. Mr. Secretary FOX said, there was a considera ble degree of doubt upon his mind, whether the produCtion of those papers might tilt lead to a pre mature and impede& jitdoment, unless accorapa- , nied by others upon the suhjeft. If the Honoura- Isle Gentlernan had moved to Jay those others he fts' e the Morse, it WAS quite another matter ; but it did not stand that the lions: should have papers given them, which took bat a partial view of the subject. He could not help thinking, that the India Company themselves, or even toe Board of Von troul, to the members of which he wet as trilling as a.y ma's, to abuw their furl merit, could not, in the pre ent state of affairs, make nn7 thing of it. Little as he knew on the sulieft„ and he confessed he knew very little, he did nos think there WAS any great necessity for the produaion of these pipers at i present. He submitted, that, as to the general maxim, no one was more ready than himself to admit the prodinlion of all papers that might be deemed necessity or important to the qn'es don. Another matter was to be colleaed Irons this debate, relating to the carrying trade in general, and to the trade carried on from the Lioited States to India, This 'Oita, he ob- Was at that morneet under this Irma sort, i n, consid.,ration of liis Islisjeaty'A :r', these papers, theretore, were to g a.:y g n 0 ,4 information to Hit Maj 'sty's Ministers, he have no ohjetrism.444raforselSaiss of them but if, On the other hand, they gave onlya partial view el the aubjetl, he submitted to the House, that the se papers were not necessary then to badaid fact-ore the.l House, unless it was slime, that they would th-cor considerable light upon the matter ; 'sod unless it should appear that it was the intention of the Hon. Gentleman to bring forward other papers which would give a clear and distino view of the subja Mr. ATKINS shortly erplained. Altiermair PRINSEP, in reply, said, that his rilt. j-3 was, that the great and important foe of the course of trade should appear to the House, and to have these Papers laid upon the table as a rename, 1 to His 7vlajesty's Government, of the necessity rf taking than great and inti;tortan: subjeßinto considcr. atidn, the eteat magnitude of which induced hies . to bring the question forward. tie did not nitre' to carry the snatter much further; but he woirf tell the Right Hon. Gentlenan how he should obtain the carrying trade, so as to increase the cram. merce of this country far beyond its - portent He would have the raw rn.itesials, and not the me- - nefaltured commodities imported into th s es-iarttiy, and thereby increase the carrying trade, wiithi would nourish oar Navy beyond eomprehensi He had too much resped for the, opinion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, rut to allow it its e•.• weight ; but he was satisfied( when the leas should. meet his cool and calm judgment, and when he should refer to the papers he then moved for, it would bring the matter to a short issue ; he tnere. fore eranteoded, that these papers would armee every purpose. and humbly submitted we prooriely of the predufhon of them, to the discretion of tba [loose. The CWANCELLOR of the EXCIIE(YrER expal,rd, that all this discussion would have led to something for the information of the House, bet nothing had resulted from it. His Mrjesiv'r Mi. nisters had already been for some time al •,ie,se. riots consideration of this important sebjeft with re,pea to America, and at a time when a most re ran's discussion was about to take place upon that suhjeCt, he thought it would but involve the matter in much confusion, and therefore moved, rr that the other ordeis of the day should than 107 read." Viscount CAS thout.t the suhjea then before them was the most difficult tr.a co iid b brought into discassion is that House. It was a question of so very large a etatnre, that it StlG':4 lott »ell understood, before the great: question of this Country with America came before the House; he deprecated the produNon of the papsrs at this time, and heartily concurred in this with the Rt. Hon. Gent. (Mr. Fox). He cons dared it a 012It•T in which the country was deeply interested,- and hoped His Ma jesty's Ministers would treat it with coolness, and with that firmness that the sulrjesi required. He tutted. that' they would conduit it with temper, with calmness, an d with prudenci. He s hould pre ter having the papers moved for t in the shape of an annual document, Riving a retain bf the yearly im ports and exports of r!llia. This would be a most interesting and important article of information to that House. Ile concluded, by giving his concur rence to the Motion of the Noble Lord. Alderman PRINSEI', after a few observations, in the course of which he approved of the sogges tine of the Noble Lord who spoke last, wittd:ew his Motion for the present. Mr. WHITBRLAD gave notice, that on Mon day next, he should move for an account of the dis bursement of a sum of 10,000}. voted to defray the expences of investigating the affairs of the Nary, and for the documents respeeting that sum. DEFENCE of THE COUNTRY. Mr. Secretary WINDHAM gave notice, that he would, on Monday next, move for leave to bring to a Bull to authorise His Majesty to make certain rules and regulations respeding the Commerce from this country to the Cape of Good Hope, during a limited period. While on his legs, he thought it also necessary to give notice, that on Monday senniglit, he should submit, for the consideration of the House, a proposition respecling the Defence cf the Country, but this he did not mean to have en tered en the Journals as a formal notice. Mr. CANNING asked, whether the late Addi tional Force Bill made any part of the Right Hun. Secretary's proposition Mr. Windham did not make any answer. General TA RLETON gave notice that i'r ahoti'd. on Mond' next, offer some observations t. , the House,reiplting.the Ordnance Ilepartmcur, that time the . p.tperi, would be printed, and be cou...i bring forward the suttien with propriety. Mr. W. W. WYNNE gave • notice, 'that, o'. Monday next, he should move for leave to brini , in a Bill to amend an Mt of the last Sessions, t , r appointing Commissioners to investigate the Fatiet _ Accounts. ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. On the Motion of Mr. Calcraft, the House went •into a Committee of Supply. Mr. CA LCRAFT. in proceeding to move th.r. Ordnance Estimates for the year, erprsssed a that in future years, considerable deduaions may lie . made from the amount of the present expeiti-, this department. The Estimates of this ra•. Great Britain, were less by 300,01)01. than ti.use of the last years s hut a large and necessary esta blishment for Ireland increased the expence in that country, so as to coonteraa this reduainn in a coo :Zia:3le degree. There was, however, will on the general account a dimiemion of 180.0001. tie moved, that a sum of ?.957,1811. Gs. 6t. begrawed to I iis Mrjestr„ for di sc h arg i ng t h e charge,. or o , d• nance for Lord Service in Great &ham, for the year 130 G." lair. POLE. on examining the Eetiurates, new move.l, found them precisely the SAMS with thou prepared by the late BLiard of Ordnance. Then was merely a diffo-ence in a few items. the total, of which were not made up when the late r 371Tti W 4, is !filet. making the whole amount of the Estimates about 7.0001. more than the late Board had mJ•le it. Ile thought it Saß!rt to Kate, that these Bei mates were the estimates of the late Bo.:rd. adoP" by the present ; an t , hente, he inferred, that the present BOard, had not only found the El" mates entree/. but the general system of the WI Board was wise and good : 1 he reduerlon of 3C0,00e•1 pomp" I a de ea