The Sun. — London, England, 1807-07-16 00:00:00

rocnt th,; ndoption of this grant of 13,0601. founded '1 on a pt.tnion v od expedient in every point of view", 1 inore especiany whrm the present state of the Con tir etii,.by which. the Catholics of Ireland were pre• ritt(l..Cl from obtaining education abroad, - was 'con si But eveny. , crethe C ontinent in a different wiresituation, we it pra6ticable fur the ov%-r, and receive a foreign - education, it teemed to Liio to be a'question e-,istly decided, l411)t.`1 her it WOlll4 not b itAinitely more wke and to :ifl'orcl tbutn Le . frt;11001Q. -truAce,l, therefore, 1-o:withstanding the, intimation of the Right Hun. th:itPorliarnent -would not in ft3ture•rel - lu,o &it winch it on all hands agreed at present shdidd voted 'for C:Jholic in"struCtion in Ireland. 1 711i-,:1 - 141FR:INS :131661V1VE Was .of tliJt the itietttion resi ived itself bite th Under a Protesfant Goveriruent, ought Roman Catholics to 'editeateit'at the expellee of that Gnsieinment, rather than at the individual expellee of- theLpro4 tes;ori of the wa the first instauce iltaty'er occurred; of any Government instruefing.its piql;fl;, , ,, in a ieligion different from itvown. lie woqi(3 not oppeo tin; ' present l'ilotioni .hut he, ,trusted that it would not serve as aulekample.,for azy foitirt• one.: IPINDHAM contended, thap werc•art `anomaly in Gove.rnment to. encourage a: religion,. nOt Ihe 'established one of n country, t,he . sifuation of Ireland itself x,V;Pi an anomaly also. The question was, whether the Roman Catholic Religion should. kit in -Ireland, Or that ail. religion iliould be•abo, Ikhetl ? The Il . l'll accused of bArbarism..• To ; what vas this tO.be attriblucd,lf tree*?. TO the at tempts that had : been tirade to. grind .thern out. of Catholicisto into Protestantism, 'llot he doubted, much whether4be ~ : !,ros•.',o•Cii tri bOU:d to the Ca ni ‘vas lii t to:. be fbrind in abtindimoe ainopt the Protestants:Of Of this the late 'of "No Popery's' was; a'qiulticient proof. Although the Roman Cathbliereligicin; tiotti 7 pared with Protestantism, had not otir ctivntinly 'ought t(' prefer' it to nOrelig,ioniat!nil ;.• atid; therefore, since 'we could not - make the• Trish Proteitanti, we Shohld at least •endetivour to retain them in the prefesionorChristianity, and to tout sh:•, initruetion for that purpose. . 1 .1141.: HAWK irr4 BROW Ntt explained, " ••.! • Pi/lag//, detailed the principles 'Of the. rtotilati thello Avligion o ' and asserted that . - diey were the reverse of beinig . incompatible with the• ge-;: nnine intereSts otthe Country. He read , several extr,ida troop the Roman Catholic Prayer-brit* used' to Ireland, to prove that allegiance; tolhe'king'and• Constitution wett"ttinOng the first duties' required Of Cntholle,- and that' in this repeel . the Pope's power, Waif e:ll',..ifiered them its vain. and nugatory, • SitYl77l thrivgl,ii that in ats.inomalous Governinent, like 'that feciand, a trOitestan't verninept, taking front thelaige body of'the Catho-i lies glitile.titlieS of the' OOrintry,'was at least bound' to provide itistruaion for those Catholics.; ...Fie! • thought it 'iiilmost eXpecKint 'and' politic; 'Weire . it . to be argitell on that •groundt'alone"," , that the instil:Aron of 'the Cat bei , iici.t• ii , liOuldibe in the hands of the, Gn:- . r . ,,Thuret;rt , Adverting to the doCtrines , Contained, in the iday , :r-OOok; eioi - arts troth which heal just. been read' by An Gentleman,becontonded-that if sill, eve in llte'sedtiFtriities, Cst holies u . erti;entided to any of:ttaL.A. It they were not Popp6sed to be sliwere, it woulil iNdeed benosafti,to relpupon them, e • iiitercotuse, The .• - word " tolittatioo" lery much abpsed on this' ; and he. proti sted. against :tlit3.}rise' and: tinfwilo.•,l hati. been atternque.!, to eon vey ii, " tolerations".i,eere sope tior to thottit'to; .Whoin it-had' been , tione.a. mit;rlii limit atri,•arict . ;.l vc::y little itt . tlier itteits'oti this subjer'i err tho centrines. Catherine tpf I,Wedir l i, that t' l / 4 11 known pe.r..iecrimr, h a d a t hoe •death reeominended to her son to vrvait.ilis , stihj.catt • liberty of conscliiii , .o, tow:Owe:4, a., ;,;;;•ii., w,ls,,,,that; it unanituiry of Opinion eould:.nOt •:he-oita. , brethed by force.. Whnt was ,r,oOtv .done•witsi‘iisii • and irvd o nt enct it a nd) t t privi , -,t tho prtNent °cad rtisblve il - ie."sarne.agaih, at ,a future period, and wititlf , b.t tt. :tee. . ' it. of 1, c EXCLTEQUER itt, it ~ to. iake ninch of time i ' •. be•• as tVertl 'all w . •l ,H • ~,. ;' it Wa,snot o,•e;:iviary ',ter :ti ttt ,►tiltlt 11r :r on The other side oldie flonso Uc'Grit, dl io hive cdop:ed.n very t:rytateous opinion that who enteithiiii2,ldottl:its tO 1 ' sc'ere tLelea th,ihr: a:togcreht..r. I'';othing' cola& be more . tin found- ttl 111 ;tit Lit - Leh it suiposition ; but' it requi"ted r 'filore argument than he llnd heard, - to conVlncethini tha t it t a neces:iary that the GOVerniiihnii i 31161114 eduelto %1 Priest hood,)-Wlio "ittiortih the': trlatii of • the of Irelandriltr.a: religion whichiithe Go yerotmot Oid,not avirove of. '.Although he uppoSed this Illation, ‘irlien,:ivi.was brought . tOrward last.Ssept. yet ife, should vote or sitlii&v,- ructAto reasais—tirst, . because: it.. .appeared :.tirit tt,ip3rt of the, tootiey hien had been :toted - had heeo •iidvaneed, awl tale butidtivy,s com menced thr.J3iffif •t flit! • t },y , t. retittip,d the, titoney T u rd(4, be" gittmed. Atrother ruciiive:that inetieed ,to vote for this motion that:hewai the oti",y o n i! of 't,,e :\•11 11i- bttYi Wlitp, ire the iar3t Ins tirant, and It might lie'aa e Irian spleen if nosy t9fooke the single &ise in which thc., gr•Jiit'of the Ses7iion was norconeuvred jpti a ,: i i this itripwisipo,,', therefore, he skivid give ins VOL lot' i h Niutiort'jt.o.ii - frcl trusted he :should nover figaln 'have to Addfk:iiiCthcf' House With:the same in formarioo open the, subp ti e r & that he had'at priit. 'This 'vas, h b , ..llievo thi? first instance that could be lound' of a propniit ion - of this 'kinti, being inatietinder :such circnrristances'. '• It Wits, lie be lieved, the first . time Where", after Parliturient had grant to an Institution, a further loin was it) that Poly upon a mere Petition, without. $1 . 0.) A t. roa Committee fbr their opi-' moll, lit idiom fOr any information upon the tiObje:f Whcn the additional grant %.tas hit 'men tiof),..,; it was'stated tit:} it kti;is. only thtel'uled t(padd' ()Tie liuoched PreSIS to the establishinetit;:huvupon. `ingiairY 'it turned out . that the heti ribeT was . adtta)iy I to be doubled Now it was sobjea tdesertiirig the otoa SC;i(1113 consideration of Parliarncot, if they wi.h . ,!(", - sto encourage the Protestant, religion in 11*f-t -imid j 4:silletlitr it was netT,ssary to educate 400 Priests • . - - .. 7 , bethey ter .. ~. , • ._. . . , ~.. . • r 1 wi4*rm - liktooki - tit= -any . teat' - iOOl 'Wa e -1 I t every' filer peers, nr one eiluedrad a)year to ; .ns, i :;( 4 - , . . eel' the Catieeirs, , 'Whether' iiii was-necessary 0r.0 , ,t, ti, , ,-.‘; in irehud .? f'.l2 fiti'e weti:! ;3-1:;i0 i l eiriL'!tes in that,. I, C0 , ..1 lint, Of which ' 'l.iit .2 0 Ufe7lr AnOliS', - :111*-4b,6 7 7 mitre', inflrmation upon S S l U l r i' e e)l ly ( v e ;i gl i :tl l l: l l ' ) '' 3 l lt e i stll4*")' ' and P3rlL'''"l't t e,, - \k^ i1.,-., - without churches, so titer .I.Weeincumbeeis had subjel before they decided that question finally i e , ,! aetied sinecures, whilst thee resideneand_ merifor . iOese the affirmative. Jut Hon, Gentleman opposite } u " Cuettes had only a stipend of 601. per annum, the therefelr. W. Smite ). assigned-as- ti reatten -for-top- ' only reodeef.bringingeaiterethe e lrisb.Churcdelo.lhe . e porting the motion, that be t h oug h t i t , was ,, p k,„ ; ,„ r : Poetestee , t P t eligione was tq render that Religion less that Governnieut !ihould take the ecfpc'ationot the ,odious then it tides at peesebt, by some modification CatholirTiTkflered `uPete itself ; but,in :pane of of the tytbe system. He'could state, from :whet lie feel, Government did notiti any wayeihterfere in the Observed in the dist:barge eat* his duty as n Grand business, ex' cept merely ,granting the inettey: . 'The 'juror,.on the trial nf some ~of; the , ; ').'reshers in his Lord Lienteitant's county, that the disterbanceShad beep produced by t:ipprobation Was indeed neceesary toe the i.byelaws of this College, 'IA' 4101 Kid the hlrdsikiOlietrtiill OQ III- rvtiles• no eioevete to interfere ie tiny :matter reldfing 16 - Sir .1 - 0114,Y,A,41,1 7 P_PRP &fell Hi cd . : his own Col . religionS instrnaicin, . I 1 fin'(: Parliament 'l'.7aetinucid. .41a,t -in laying ..theEstimate before the Ifouse. .`lt : . to increase-this liistitutiOi'l , :theydughtto ly aite more beer been' presented in the saline manner as all :t he' i n fOrnatitien - rcispetitinA... it ; t hey'OUght. id: knOWlwile- other listiinatcs 'for the tniscellancous ,services ~I Ireland. , The ,Petition stated that th e .p rese et num thee or not, thie, e ; s.veee edureteiega,Collegee:Of 4e r suits which 5101)1(1 not be stiffeied m any Roman r her of Students in , the .College was only one half' of what were ,Wented to,ipeeely the Catholic Priest -. Catholic Country. He thought -that t h e • appo i nt -- metit of the le - ofessorS .of- . this College should .he t hood..- Even if the University,. or other ender the contr o ut . ' Of G o - were ,to be entirely :,male evay . ' open (0 ,CittIIOKCS, it could ti( answer for , . vermpeut, :they.slieelkl !' at' keSt know' wheth e r the education of the 'Catliolieeelerge.. . The -. aid NCELLOR 'or t ore; f.S.W.Lik:Q,I/If, . these, Professors wee. , eatives or foreigners, t h ey bright to take care, that under the - belief that tleiy trusted, that the House, wieertheeiebieet shook! b.' Were giving these people a home education, they before filen), %vould tiLilie a ; liberal addition to the, I were, noteducating. persons in hostility -t o th e . 1 fund for building chutches: and glebe bones inlre- Cooterv, ,It was - necessary that Government should:, land, ' It was his opinioe that a regedatioe might 'know bow all these things were managed. „It ; be made to provide tbr this' obje6.l, and the atig-' waSruecessary they should : b e , enquired into, aild : nfentatiee of The stipends •of the - Resident Clergy,. ;he hoped-the College would be- ready to give. file outiofthe`iitienitabiT, of the 'Clilerele Revenuee,.hy information 111)011 these points, Fie could not think , appropriating . a'eettaiit - proportion of 'the Revenues 'that' the conipatevive eseibliShinents for' edneating ' of 1 -iiiogs •over a certinn .%%Irue, :0 1 4 tiboilld 1 11 :eJf.L:' , ' Protestants at the College of Dublin, and Catholics at ' become vacant, to that purpose., It was his inten the College of Maenootleevere Werthy the COnsi.lera- t inn eitl;eteie 'edies, or the Ilex t Suasion, to being fOt:- don of the Ho use . I n the' C o lle ge o f D u blin t h ere ward a,preposeion to Pailienient te, this eca tfe. waeonly a fund for the elee m o s y nary e d ucat i on of , LO - (1 1716111C, , K. t.tjrely, • coecerred in the pixi e to te Protestants, and these not Protestant Priests . , pricey ofmaking 4,rt,..spe4tilble protision for the Re bat all' per Sons of that:religion. 13y the establish- sident C i lety, who 'discharged the duties of their y meet of the College of.Maynn o th e for the education protessioe,''atict he should stppO rt ttu Mettsure that the Right Hon, ••Geetlernan should ; bring Idieedrel of 200 Priests, a d ou bl e a d vantage . was g i ven to , • that advautage fourfold. It wae e re hi s i ntent i on to Roman Catholics, and now it eves prop o sed to mak e 'tor that object'. *- I- [e happy that the Right Hon.. Gentler - nen bed reeeoosicic;red the: ce ie s eio n ' respee ii ng : enter into any discuSsion With the Gentlemen OPpo- 1 ibis. Resolution, ;and ..abt:incloned a deterfreitaticee' (which they 'bad rashly formed.. The 1'., , i.c 11-lone -site to him , upon. points of E cc l es i ast i ca l Hi story, bet he 'could 110E•altc4ether agree, with the Right:Hon : ,Gentleman (Polite (:`,lr. Fe ;ler) wes not 1., inc. out . : Gentleman (Mr, Windham) that 'the. Roman 'Ca : by the statement he had made, aceountk; foi• hi'4 tholic religion was the religion of Europe for four- change' of , deterinination. It was his tinter to ' have teen or fifteen centuries., 'and that the Protestant inquired into the groends upon which the grunt was religion Sprung ou t of i t . ' H e k eew very wel l that The dectitnents can th at heed were in the . , . .founded.bee i e e '' ,finenee,Seereeteele Qffice. Thelleght Hon. tilt le the Catholics asserted' ,thate the: ProtestateeS' religion' before eLutheie but: he ; alwayS tinderstoed matt too was in virtu e. of his Office a Visitor of that tltp cetholic,yeligioneweS•nott be religion of the . the college, and when onehe spar should havein- Apostles,. por'of the tin'te oreanefirsecentries, and formedtknsiifopen.`the subjeet,:beforohehaecirded • that the Protestant religion did not spring:obt o f t h e an aseerticer ethet 'was not enstifd;lo. : ,2t, w a s thi s ceodueil - thet eeejted so thuch ., ajarm in his enirid at Roman Catholic religic)n ; but w a s , i n tai , t h e true .religion, di v e s t e d e eehe e ,, Tu p t i oes e e ke teh i n fl it ,. d ark . , having the Government of-Ireland entrusted in these. ages had crept _into it. But it was not fiecessare to' critical times into strele hands.',,' ;-, The CuAttqcatott,of the li.i:NciiiiQU Lß explained. • enter into that subject at presto t : he sh ou ld conc l u d e what he Mid to :•;13• upon; the •"iubjea ho a.,...,:{titi re- - 21fr.' FOSTER, denied that ;there was any &mit. peering 'his hope that ' the native ef this les'tituticiti relent 'iii '' f `1" . afti - ' corm{ Elea with the T . '4l" / , &lye) t et, ecs would he.folly, inqui red into,, and that teeeeppoiot- GovernMent toljustify the' grant . , .:. If the. - Ncible Lora:, m e r it o f the, .Profeeeoree or- at. leestesoinn !Contralti' should a ssert t h at there was, he would snlenitto the.:. o yez , of, leeeyettieeee„hy the Noble Lord; with en. 0y.r,11.)9ir, il,Pl l 9lßll'lleAr , ash.F.;9lo, 4e'ege4 ht,GOvern meet:, e ee....eee . ... .• ; ''' y - ignoranee,and,with ail eseerity which 1.1:: should not . Lord 11. PE7'l'l deprecated any attempt to with- imitate. He. stilt Contended that he did not see any }loft *om - the' CO - Miry - In people • 'of Ireland religious Perliluriehiaty. document to justify the grant ' lie ithtrU6lloll; and rt‘peated 'the argutT...nti of My , iiLi,l k'ept ba c k the other Petitions . and Eititomtea ! t ill Winclb: 3m , Mr, Pat o,±ll, a W rid' lll r..Striith,Ap prove ' he received the' Petition :aid E i ti ol a t ,'...s from Ills the expediency of granting in • fliture the propo's'ed EF,tat,fist imen t., which was riot unlit two days.before jucr"ase of the iii ids for fri: , h Catholic edncatioH, : l',o piesentcd it to the'liome, owl then he bed not 'lt the Trish Catholics could net ( -, b;''tin cduc.o ion its till,: to institweany . .inquitY. . •'-' .' ' ''' Ireland tey.Wculd obiain'edrt.:),h)o el -,, ..where, and Lit I liowtv::: .ohsf: t v... l l, that ',list docUlttent s • 1.4 ' the daeger wase tha th e y si ee e c e h e educated else... : which his leloneiteele Veen; t had, trevep , Notice where in pofiries as;welletieene'veligione 'Otherwiee cis his intentiOa to move, e:ere i'i; Ilit s:-!crotnY , • flit: r'icsthood woUld 0;:,;;t: in Irelend, ..kind. thele, of s eee e ; oif i ce, for Hm -D :the oe eP:irtmoilt , education proceed its secrecy, which the evidence, of whtch ;ill - the coll'‘.4potAktiee . wOh ti''' I'll' all history proved was most iiiiiniCai to the safety of . (4();vernmelt IS;r3 ' s kept ; :eel still itiele`ed that the ~ a Sfiqe. ils to the lionoorabla' Qentlerniiii b ,S, as- Ri g h t H ono urable Gentiewan otig ' hi to have I)•lje 4ertion, that the preielit, education' of the• Citholic an inc'iniry inzti' C -,10- - F 411 . i i t :" .b.9.31.e.-- h -haul h ' izartte(-1. Priesthood 'eyes N,V 1101 iy : fl e t (it , the . e y e ' •Of , Geverne e a deeleretirel eeinch .he ii iii • Oblige&to. ket rid of: by ment; he was induleing in a ehlnlerii of hi'; 0 Wal''lo4l- ' pitiful oxenAO. gination. ,•Five visiters, the ,highest Officers of die , e s ee n Foseeo, heed neeeeesaid, beat, he hrLl made.. Stole, were4pvpint6l at snitedperiads to , insped)the . ' 1 1(3 in ge i ree but': that lit: sluti-lounq qi!.,Cioe'ti7 c ()ll % 46 (NaPloo t h , it tht) . ''ildrfortrit:(l th;. - n: illy,' : tnentg ii) just,i(y HIV ;',,Cill)t. 7 4 5 3 t r o . t,lte-pitifitt k's . x . s end. we were bound ,to suppose. they did ,SO, IV:6,mA, oqsr,s,ka4ieil,hy t,lic= I,;'...'*),OV'it,,i'.'4)l'l;‘l•llXto. oh that institution pra,?l;,.':oly icKlyr ihe hispeilion of, scrve, that though the eepresiiou were Parli:onvo,!. Pt4crih lion ?: 'T/19, increei,c: had Out betiu'pro , Yos ,, d tftl..j , it ; i'‘l '' ' e 're Prit' h ' • ' . ~ A for •- _.„ , i I, .t. in'' lt. , .. • ,. , , „ , by the liiteAdruinioNti on tdit hint( the g r , , k04134$ it !'- i, Cord [Tow i c•k tii"' - ' '' )l3 `-'t''''' , " th"it s t i le. ,liv ,• "c:, having hien ascertained., W•hr,qt .it,wits , brittipt:fo t ' H on , , Gentlemen! elle i tied. t bat JO elate 4 1 .iqe - 14 rti' ti. 4 litql la;t. SeF,sion, v..lty had not . the Right [fO t e,',O .e , te , q 11. , , ,i.e. e ...... 7. e.e . ,..te e; e e e e e ineefilry: , dlthat Ai? ,kW not sfii.d: tletneeecalled t at' chose groiriels ?.. " e , ' , .. 1 se e ' Yoe s e tel ei I ere': the' Lirteeeeekr the' Publie to ) . ... . The; Cueeeeteme of thteleeen ree hit Saiii,actosi • . intl9. - v then Of LH :.,ht.!,llo'n.-4,!;..:intlertilrul'sennl.u6Y,; the table, that II had . cc I(.4l.tie,t,bis efforeiation, 06 •a 4okeit: ieeetee.. to eke ;greet of • public money . , tho L n i ;2. t i i ) (.: 1 1 1 , ),; . :1 i ., T , ;?.) r i k, t ,5 . um, , ,,,i.,. ~ f , t ,, , 5, ,n ;:;, e „ xet ,, r . , .. 1 . ,0 : tid, , ii. il l . ). I , rel...ei'itey i, eieettei cote:ems of, %vetch ,it. Wes 1114 r c uty te ...ewe ee, on e stil,:tt!'t ceneeettel Slit l't' ,. ll;y: • 1,,,i01.14 ' e s .Z:p i til.l,.'e,, ', Col.ffi' 2l .BA It 1: Y Ooprecated tin : , rlj , :ll , :si;)n . , as eheir • that the Hon. Geeticineu 14f, ot !Bodo 'a ~d4iii a wew •it. , ,vc..,....1, Kiyll ; - ii:is Jhat 1.1: , : i'.. , -;,,itiii , )D ~}tubed rnotiein. There was no' pautlity.'4. ihe minus of odil ! ,. ,' NI ,vieteo, ' ,,,4011,a,Littn t 12;.1 elt ti,i ) ,:d...b. 11 ,,4 'm this. cation nit- the 'Protestant' eit,itiv, , ,A Treki?eU* , A The i ki s;ibite.'t: 123t.t;;eriiii , III, 111 d ii id ii,,t.twaid.. u,,y 1 ;;VOUIld was r ninity college, in'Dtiiiiii), - one of the - 1 ,6 e - eepeoriiidllee officer! deecenetits'e)tetlii.egfaiii.: , - • . 4 .4,'. .. . 1 . , Aplen . Clid ( . 1 .. 5 t41011H11111y1.101 0f , ,, , a t4'44ilic.l- , that: . 0..,,,;:0twi , 'l l lr.Sitl , .irriiete eeeneratulece& Alle';ltiie! Miinstem • 9, ~ besides , . the Universities. of ,"Ox.tbrel end .Cireibridgi. e en el`e'hit';'lt iiiiiiter'eniit'leicl. V.. th e:'!j 6 it c o ,( k,! , , -. .,!, , ,t, At any.rate,, if the ti't'hes' o f -insfraling Prot i a'i it • w h'..) h;:(1 just at ceen, te thew. 'fedi 'MAL- ( i c ;'ilue - i Clergy for 'lrelend Were d2Clliigt too • entail, 10 'w,t nfin 5 ,li(t. he Irid'hc- . (-n tirc-icot at till ,the lk.i:tissions the meantrof instrttedng the Remae Cathelie I"..',lergi ' r`,.iellis sith"fece .hea. Sessien, ated.heeeonht stetete 11 ''''''f urc sutier-1"0 not , he a C"litt'it Which : CilPiS the:/101.14(.t,th/tt . that 1100:,Ottalotuart,liad not open,. lihoilld he kept iii the grvatc , r if!,noranee, hot let it cud hiS n'l'o , ,itiiHrio. the StibjtaL7ot- demanded : any of he i;Gal)(4 an env:lint:ion b ow to 'difro , e Over the thi'inceiiries he' now; thOnibt, neeeseiry.'"Thie si; whole. :country the greatest possible eivilizetion and lenee 111115 t [wive ;proceeded from , bieicettlidence in lobo u&iote e : the Minister's"... bet Pow that. Adminstraon .1111 . „1,g.94,(E . :POSTER stated;' that 'n o boi , , ion • ~ •:,lsl ate in office. which he diSe'uSted en , he called i for ti the . was motea friend than himself te.the educat.ion of clocurnonts. Catholics foretheir Priesthood in''freland,-ho ot y w l ie . •Col.' ilvvt;y: obseli , :...d, eliat ling Rieht , Hon. Gene thoeghtiel?refeeible'te ;le edueziticm ; ft St. ()toot s. IleyuL:n :4;1(1 bull so . constant 'thi atreli6nt 111 his But be did not. Approve' of the este hli s l nneue of a pTae"o In3l 't.,,k 7 S;i6n, that he must. be -very - compe e monastery in lrelend f,l the education Of the laity. ' tent tot ,l infoseiacion to the House relative to the When theCollegc.: , of Maeno 6 the.3::,llrt•lotattled, it ' atefliciatte WI :any' ',,,t1i0 ::\rember:' 'ilifl . tat W as ; ' here heereaseertained •that the grant of tioool. anew- however; that lie badisreth Speleett and voted on the ally for the seppert of e(ill sterteets would be - ask'- , reiesiien, - , eee ,- --. • • ,- e; e. ..e . ; of the CitthelieCiergy. '1'111;010 .. lAte , eueeteeee-neu t,(l«.!ri nis sLiternent relative quasi to the supply Get:eke:lien's' it tenclanee. e .. ' from , Illseatem ' he should consent to a errenteof - eleney for that, pur- ' : to the [t oe . had bee n pr es e n t at ' a il the.dis pose, he shouldnot egiye tOrrfrlT the grant further. admiseion, diet be • ~ , Dublin had induced 'many Catholics to send their , ; .1.)r; De eN re .1 ti - ...4 'guy - Li ',het the late Mi n ist ers children for education thith er ,- and there wer e et pre .e 1 were. tiot .II iencl , 4 to tho. Lish Or to the English sent itbove 40 periolls Of thiTt'periitt hisin in t! at Uni- . .,C.' , hnrefr, Which by th o s l b A, e - ' - • „tte e of the Ate of vereity. From the moderati on which prevailed in ' Union N't!i'(! tii:ldi , slid . (meet It, bye lure they - h a d this !carped University, n o restraint was imposed oat epposed a Bi11• 1 .0J1Cla he had introdt 1. leer at the de their religious bennone, and . they returnee to their sire 0 1 O w I I i s h A re ete s h o e s ie• ! e ier vesper:live, houses, haying very different opieiees re-, that in fl ill ,tl' i ls count; and e i :i 4 fo lt r 3 e l rt;e: ' t l. l ll le !': r lr es t i o - deeee of die ( I ; c l 4.l :K i:e l y ,,i _ is ie ht l; e eli t i l t l i e d. , ' ' r , rpecttqg those who -differ fronetleen in religion ;...e., House Wetuld talteit i'l l e (-undue:lof the I. l olVeriity in a recent in:ifance,: ',- Lord li o v , A D sacrificing : ole ;littoral tet:liog..of a Protest;Atil 1i...' it; . 0 Imot of the .. 1 , - ;fle M i uisters - being' miff. fetidly . ' -to ie e trfdt ar,4 tnilish established Church, that they' stitution to modeunion, shewed that it could forget opposed a gill latroduct„,:d by the Learned its resentments, as well as remember its obligatiotte. I :iaci Mr. DILI:64Y observed, that the question re:4'e I P- - riet., ,e,.,e'.. Lord MtLION observed, that those Hon. Gen tlemien who couteuded that because :200 itOrnts. ry were thought sufficient in they were sufficient at present, seemed to forget that tile population of Ireland was increasing ; and that the state of the Continent cut off .the supplies for the Catholic Priesthood. fromtheLontineut. These two considerad, *tions,rendered an - increase of the number to be edu„- . ,cated in the C o ll e g e ' nec 6 ssar y. , Mr. GitArrAk- said, that though the Right Hon. Gentlenaen opposite agreed -to the grant, their argurrisnt went against the establislinlept, He .. opposed their reasoning, therefore, on pi inciple, be .cause, that establishment was `neceMaryliot.fbr the propagation of Popery,. but the prevention of: dis loyalty. Parliament could never have thought in decidinerthat fibt rnoi - ci than 13Jo01. per annum should at any.tinte be granted. There were. 09• Beneficed Protestaut .Clergyinen.in4reland,: . .and was. the House tosay,. that so. many .w,erc.neces sary-for the instruaioti on of - PiBtetants, and that f2OO sufficient for three millions Catholics ? An' Education in Irela . nd for the Cathot. . lie Priests was necessary, in .orden t o prevetiithern,.. by seeking an eke inosynaryedtiution abroad, from ne4uiring tereiiti principle; 'NOlolntigfit lied, to - domestic treason. The, Catholics cannot atford to. educate them themselves, and tilierefore•the . Goiteray . ment'shoald prof fide far their edtiation,' Art .Gentletriatt..had,said that the Irish peasants were .a state of barbarism, but he would contend that they. Ncere as civilised as persons of the saute degree itl this Country. It had also been insinuated, that all the Irish were .savages.' He wood not bring dis grace ypoil a COUntrv, to which he owed i‘o much which' Lapland so much 'indebted, from. which sheinid_still so much service to expect; by defending it against so vidicUlous a charge. But' hb sliotild 'derelict Ei.ilatid against it: If Ireland' was savage after so many centuries of connexion with EF4Tand then Blitish c‘Alnexion wa s not a blessing . 7 . • but a nuisance: • og. T re h e l L e i . t ß o. esolution was then .put to 'the vote and The remaining Jtesolutions were, agreed to. The Report to be reccived - to-Morrow. ' • 3, 2Mr....C..Duanxs gave - notice,oflo Mottep- for .to morrow, for'the al:1)6001pm of a Committee to con.sider of the propriety" some particular re :gnlaiien for the sunnnoning of Wrinesses to 'at-, Jena before the :COmmitteeti on Private Bills now :sitt 'On the Motion-of Sir -A. -NV em..its.bwv, the second 'readily , of the' 14,412 -Insurredion Bill was deferred fn.) 'reading 030 r it - ecin 6iday ~ with - the 'consent • of Mr. Sheridan, who declared -his int4ntion Id op- Tose' the Bill. Report of the alnitnit tee apottited, • to.• ex ' arnine;the Auildiogs:foi the reception of the Egyp thin Antiquities at, the British Museum, was brought up tied ag reed - to. On theS.Jotipti:of Mr. J-IpOttssoti:, the :Howe is a Committee of Ways-and. Meow passed the Votes AF Appropriation` of the - W iys and- Means-of - the year to .the Suppliesli - the usual manner". - The *I.!, part .to be received to-morrow. . On the Motion of Mr. FOSTER, leave was given to bring in a Bill - regtilitte th Collection of the Duties on Importation and .1 1 ;liportatinit iti j Ireland.' A new Writ wits ordered for the Election Member for Athlone, in the Room of Mr. LESLEY, whq having been elected also for Eye, had nitride his Elettion to serve tbr that Place. —•- A Message. from the Lords dectared:their Lord ships' .sent- to the Arritrican''Trade Indemnity Bill. The ItesolutiOn Or compensating the :Ileirenched Fees in the 4isb , cslsvoAi a g ryes' to, i pfi r r 2911, objeaions from Sir Joutc:NEwri,RT, wilo ,tl l oggl4t the coppensation ottyht t(i be nrde front the Van- , solidatcd - Vund, rather than brts. front „ and FAi_ports.. FoSTia 'replied. Th'e Cdtitinilt ec on - the CoStorn Fees' n ßillS was ordttiod .to make proviiibti.actotling• to. the • Resk ' • :7., . ; • .~. .. ,:,4.lre Committee, ri,i) tho Irish Spirit 'Dt.ily Bill was deferred riii to-morrow, at the; ih i stauce : spf,sg J6nll-NBWPORT, 'Who declared his intention.ro o r , pusa s9e;re RC the proyisions. the, thigioll of,. c. .4ErualtiDgF„ 1 k . 1 counts relating to the produce of the Post-Otlice Re.; irtasuze-w4i . e ordered.-:—Adinnrited.. 111‘111.S. Att.4ll , rlD-;•t Tornitten, tVat.:rlbjKl• CiotteliOuri,kl. I.lSi oil, I \V;itertinti. I'IZICT; 01. S r()CKS • ~, 4 , ,o, \• it. i T V.? Z : 1.1; F. t 1 CI , :q,... :., r C 0113013 6ti , t,, , . sl:y, I,lto. /44. , c ,2, . :, ' ,l i tialtilllllll 4 1 ' ''''' Pr U V LT N, QL;llf. rAi.set,l AuDE,AT ? i.~,.. ° ~..,,:. L 6 1 AT D 'A', / I [Jit'.l).l', - , uLy ,U, •t , . ' day it Nl.til arrived tretn- Tottptit'il:Tn. Thu) Letters front Copenhagen,.whieb . aro of a, late a &to as the •ttli just: contradi..l ihe report, which vVaS,sl'" 4thi,i.efalli,.s;ircuiated, of ale Danes having refusett ; .9 • . • permit the English Expedition to pass tilt , SOnnd. .0 13 thrZtinst. about 50 Ships belonginglattre - EsPe dition ,passed the Sett Oil, and another .pasrd t Amp the Great he it. .4, rAtppit „ w as. cj,tmtll4ted,,. that a part . o 1 our kos sinee..refused a. passage through, the Sound, bat 4ittve :notAken able to trace. it. to =any authentic . • - fioufecc:-.:But as there is,. however, .reasun to ai'),;. prebend that 110NAPARTIt may attempt': to' inti midate the Danish ,Gnvernment, His I‘ , lajesly's Ministers have made the neees,;:try preparations t 4 .it • sending a , powerful Fleet i n t o th e B a l t i c , if it shoul d - become necessary. i It appears by Letters from Vienna, that Austria:. Oti.ered her mediation 'for the rest4.ration'' . 44f ,Peace, and that BOXAPAIVIIE stated in rei, ty, that he )yollid willingly accept the mediation of ~‘ustria,i b ut• tilat he feared that.ihe Power which had toualled - it s greatness on the disputes of the Continental PowersA iwonld find means to promote clissention in the C