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IIi'IPER.I.4L 13-41?..L.1.41V1ENT. HOUSE OF PEERS, THURSDAY, JUNE :0. COLTNSEL were further heard relative to the important Appeal, Morthland and Johnston v. Cadell ; after which their Lordships postponed the,further consideration of the Case till Saturday. After a short conversation between the Duke of Noa [ILK, the Lotto- CHA.NeEztiliz-, and the Earl of STIFOLK, the intended Motionof - Lord Tnba LOw, relative to certain Stand iing Orders of the .House which stood for this day, was post poned, in consequence Of the indisposition of that Ncible and :Learned Lord ;- and the Earl-of So ryocx's - proposed Mdtion iespeeting the conduct} of His Majesty's late Ministers, &c. was postponed till Tuesday next, on which day their Lord_ ships were orckred to be summoned. • The Bills upon the Table were forwarded in. their respec tive stages. - The Marquis of SALISBURY reported i Eis Majesty's An swer to tbe late Address of the Ilousc. - • , The' proper Officer present.d .an Accotinttof the appropria tion, &c. of the proceeds of old Naval Stores, pursuant to a late 'tote of their Lou.LhiPs.Ordered to lie upon the Tahle. - .Counsel (Mr. GAR sow) and Evidence were:heard on the question tier the second reading- of . the Bill. to -dissolve the Marriage, of George Borifiam i .'Esq.• with Paulina, his- now wife: From the statements. and 7depositions of those it appeared, that the Petitioner is Capt a i n of the East India .Company's Ship the Walmer Castle ; • that in Mar;,h; he was married -at Calcutta, to %Miss Paulina Lushington. .daughter of William Lushin,gtorr i ; Esq. ; that they lived and cohabited ,rogether at -man . and -Wile until June fo'dowing, when the Royal Admiral, Company's Ship, then commanded by the Petitioner, was orzlereditottake in troops to• be em loyed in an attack'upon the Spanish Settlements at the laniilas, las, on which account it 'was deemed adviseable by the friends of the parties, -that Mrs. Bonham . should return 'to her friends in England, and accordingly tome time afterwards 'she embarred for-Europe,-on - board-the -Companyils' Ship Alinerva. It appeared,- that Mrs. Bonham was, during her voyage, 'delivered of a male child, of which she was preg nant at the time of her dell:it:lpm from Calcutta ; that at the Cape of - Good Hope,* - the, Lady - became unfortunately ac qi.v.inted with Major Rooke; of One of l',lajesty's*Regi monis serving in India, who accompanied he'r home to London, 'where it. appe:ired, by the testimony of one or two oe the Witnesses, that.art aduiC:rOus ini.c.irc-iitrie took place between 'ber.abcUla . lor. Rook; that the did not return to 'England tilt the'2sth of Ocloher, 1-7(y;, interval of SiV:Cf."ll months after his separating. from Mrs. Bonham at Calcutta, and during that period the: Lady Was delivered of a child in London on the Sth of April, :70, which, according to the deposition of one of the Witnesses, a Lady at whose house itlrs.• Boni-von then lodged, was a fine ftilf grown child. - In cousequgx,x_of what. b:, had heard, the Petitioner had no sort of intercourse with Mr.. Bonham, and on thedetefti9n of her hcitiltery, he brought his Action in the Court of King'sdiench against Major ftooke, who suffered judgment -to go by de fault; and damages were afterwards doi; , assessed at 30001. With costs of suit. The usual proceedings were then inAi tuted oil the part of the Petitioner in the Ecclesiastical Courts, and in March, rt-:0, he obtaixd a definitive sentence of di vorce from bed and board, &c. The Lcar.iied CoUrisei obServcd, that no case whatever could be rtior - e free from the important-consideration of any imputation of collusion than the present, as the Petitioner /tad-neve even heard of Major Rookc until he heard he:was the author oi his misfortune ; th,t on the question 'of aisess inz. the clamac.res, f've ry poss ib iet etiort was made on the part of the Dt!..febialit to reduce them, and that since the award, every practicable step was taken to enforce the payment of the tiarmaiz:!3.• The ficts above stated were regularly proved at the Bar, secinni-,ly to. the_satisi‘aa.4nn of their Lordships, and the LORD CUANCELLOR just took occasion to observe, that the fact of the nob-intercourse between the Petitioner and his Wif e; f ront . Odoher 1793, and her delivery of a full grown child in April 1790, was decisive as to her adultery. , No di llerence opiaiou seeming to prevail as to the merits vsf-the-eas..,. the LOA CIfA NC It put the question, Wheri the Bill we s forthwith read a second time, and committed for to-morrow. . _ 7 776 e 234 cf MO 1? /I took occasion to call the:r Lordships' attel.fon generally to. tlx..subjeza of the Bills, of which. he had formerly given notice of ids intention ofintroducing for the.amendrnew of the existing Laws of Debtor a n d Credi tor. 'His .Lprdf,hip Stated the principle on which his Bills Should,proceed, which was a recapitulation of what he had on former occa3ikis delivered on the subject ; and, we un-: r.istobd him to say, that he meant to embrace a two-told operation, that respeeltie me.lne process, which should be prospective, and with respett to those at present in confine ment far (1,1)t, :its operation 'shOuld be immediate. The Noble tail advertad to .the ell= sof the late measures which had heal adopter on the subia, and alluded to the steps 'witch might be taken by, individuals in contemplation of his intended Uptra the whole, •he observed, it iroirld be found very inceptitetlint to take the v'rise of the judges upon f4c difFerent points connetted‘ with the subject in sufficient • tine to bring it forililtd before the'ekpiration of the present Session.--- Hs was therefore unt,ter the neeessityof postponing it to a subsequent Session, but in sayintt•this, he wished it to be understood.' that he by no me:ntS relinquished ti' object. On the contrary, he should persist in his :mention, and come forward In the nest Session on the first praticable opportu nity. „ Lard HOLLAND expressed his hope - that his Noble Friend would penis: in his lividable'intentien of corning forward as be had given notice, ;:n1 on'an occasion in which he thought the ,interference of the Legislature was less cailtkl for by humanity than by justice.,He made some ohservat i ions on the, necessity which existed f)r hmelioratinA these parts of the' 7.lers, and noticed that by a former order of the House, the lodges were desired to prepare .4„Bili upon the subject. Ha h,-,pecl, however, that hi,Aoble. Friend would lose no time text Session, but come torw:ard on the very first opportu nity. • The Irish Yeomanry Pay WI! was brought up by Mr. ALEXANDER, and the Hull Wet Docks Bill by Mr. S • 'mitt NTON from the Commons, and a few Private Bills . by Mr. PLACKZURNY and other Gentlemen, which being k ead a first time, their Lordships adjourned till To-morrow. 110 USE OF COMMONS, THURSDAY, JUNE 10. -MR. TncßiNsoN moved, that the Aa of Henry VIII. relatiVe to Clergy; be read; which being (lope, he moved, that leave be given to bring in a Ed' , to continue the operation of the Aft of tE.oz. suTending the operation of that Ad for a limited time. Leave given. , ti The Report of the Committee on (he Controvert_ bill was received, and the Resolutions of theCtininiit tee agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be rngri - :sstd, aGil s read a third time on Thursday. , The Repot of the Committee on. the Petition of tht - City o! London 'against the Paddington rvlarket, was brought up,, when it appeared that it was the opinion of the Committee, that the allegations of tle Petition were . unfounded. The Report was or (it.red :o be printed, .4ind diStributed among the IVlernbers. _ . . The Revort of the Committee on the Coroners' Bill was brought up, and the Resolutions agreed to. o n the question that the Bill be ,engrossed, it was opposed by Mr. SHAW LEFEVRE, when the House divided, Ayes Noes 23 35 - e-1 2 Majority Tile Dill in consequence is lost. we found On being re-admitted t o the Gallery, IVIr. Fox on his, legs, spe-lsing to. the Report of the Committee of Supply on the Peace Establishment. Mr. FOX expressed his regret that circumstances had prevented him from 1 .)e:lng present at the de bates on the. Peace, as be should have certainly en. eavourecl to hew that the co , .urtry was placed by it in such a situation as .only to rc9tlire a very re_ duced 2stablishment ; and to bring our Peace Esta. blishment as low . as circumstances could possibly AdMit, be thought the most, solid good that could ron,ikred to the, Coantry. The proposed Esta, blishrnetit, from its magnitude, not only exceeded what necessity required, but was, from its magni. tuck, absolutely not to be considered,as a Peace Establishment. Our Peace Establishment was to be considered in three - points of view, as it related to Great Britain, to Ir.eland, and to our Colonies in the WeSt Indies. With regard-to the last, our West India Colonies, if the Country was madly to persevere in continuing the Slave Trade, and abetting fresh importations of Negroes into these Colonies-, he did not say that • a large Esta blishment would not he necessary to enforce our ruinous measures in that quarter. In Ireland likewise, if - the present system were perse vered in, if coercive measures were to be con tinued, and the people were.to be awed by a mili tary pOs,ver, instead of being taught, to respeet, the Civil Authority, it might indeed be found necessary to maintain a large military force. But with regard to . 6rKat Britain, not a si►,gle argument could be alledged against reducing its Military Establishment to the most coatraded scale. Many reasons might be advanced to 1 - ;rove that it ought to he less than in 1783 ; but in the present state of Europe, in the present state of our Finances, not one good reason could be assigned why it shotild be greater. He said,' he should 'not, however, enter more largely into the subject,' nor oppose the present vote of the comNtree, as 'he understood that the proposed Establishment was not to he considered as the basis of the future Peace Establishment; but mealy as a temporary measure, the whole subjea being left fully - Opel) to-future discussion. The C H ANCEbLOR . of the EXCHEQUER said, 'that the Hon. Gentleman was perfealy correCt in suppbsing that the present .Vote was only a tempo rary 'measure, intended to remain in force for a limited time, and in nowise binding the House to follow, in future, any particular• course on the sub jea, which was left - completely open to future dis cussion. What had fallen from the Hon. Gentle man, however, with regard to wliat he (the CHAN cyntott of the ExcH;Qttrk) had said as to this Vote not being the e liais of the Peace Establish ment, required some explanation. The Rresent Vote was not to be considered as the basis of the . futute'Peace Establishment, in such a manner as to fetter Parliament, or to preclude any future dis feussion on the subjea but the principle main tained in this Vote, the necessity of keeping up a strong Military Force, was certainly to be consi dered as the basis on which the future Peace Esta blishment was io be made. After •having-observed the violent commotions which lately agitated Eu rope, and after obserVing the still unsettled state.of the Continent, no man of good sense could surely affirm that it was not necessary to maintain alarger Establishment at present than in 1783. • The Hon. Gentleman had himself admitted that it was neces sary to keep up a large Force in the West-Indian Colonies, and in Ireland. In this opinion they perfeetly agreed, though there might be a difference with regard to the causes which produced this ne cessity ; for he could not allow that the system . pursued with regard to Ireland .and the. Colonies, was that which rendered a large Military Force in these places requisite. - There might also be some difference between himself and the Hon. Gentleman_ 'with regard e to the number 4,Troops- which it was expedient to maintain, even allowing that circurn. stances rendered a large Establishment necessary. He should not, however, enter into the discussion of the exael.number, as circumstances might arise to alter any estimate formed on that subjeCt. He felt himself, however, aut horised to.say, that the final 'Peace Establishment would not be so large as the pre sent Vote; but he should deceive the House if he did not at she same time state, that a larger Peace Esta blishment than formerly 'would be required for the security of the Country. . such an Establishment, however, would be found entirely consistent with the truest principles ,of economy ; not the .partial and short-sighted.economy which was regulated by the' circumstances of a particular year e d;ut 4hat- large, that extended ecOnomy, which was condufted on a general system, intended 'to be acted upon through a long succeeding course of years. He'shouid there fore content himself at present with repeating what he hoped had been clearly proted to theftfouse in the course of former discussions, that a larger Peace Establishment than forMerly was now requisite, and that this larger Establishment could be recon ciled with the truest principles of economy. The maintenance of 3 powerful Force was the surest meens of preventing any interruption to Cur plans of economy. •Aftere what he had said, he hoped the House would look upo n t h e present vote as only applying to the remaining part of this year ; but at the same time he wished that he might'not be-considered as pledging himself to - any particular diminution on fixing the final Peace Establishment. Mr. FOX rose tp explain. He did not wish the House to misunderstand what he had said with re.: i'ard to the West India Colonies and Ireland : he by no means meant to allow that a large Military Establishment would be requisite in these quarters, unless in consequence of improper measures being pursued. Even supposing this to be the case, he ,4ould require much previous investigation, before he could make up his mind as to the quantum of % the requisite Establishment. He was, however, convinced, that it ought to he much smaller than the present Vote. • But as lie would not encroach on the rules-of the House, and as the prese n t V ote was not to be considered as the basis of the future Establishment, he should not at present enter into the grounds on which he rested this opinion. He should content himself with simply stating it as the opinion cf an individual, which he had adopted on mature deliberation, and which he should con.. tinue to hold till his sentiments were altered by stronger arguments than any which he -had hitherto heard advanced on the opposite side of the question. On .the Resolution respeding the pay of' the Foreign Corps being read, '• •The SECRETARY at IVA /j observed, that it • was the intention of Government to disband all the Foreign Corps in our Service, with the exception of the Regiments of Neuron, Rohan`, 'and Stuart. It had been intended to disband the Dutch Corps immediately ; but the Prince CS Orange had repre sented. to our Government, that he considered us as bound to keep them up for a limited time longer.-- ; With regard to his own sentiments, he had certain-• ly formed an opinion on that subject, which it was 1 not necessary at present to state. The point, 'how. ever; had been referred to those Most conversant in such affairs and best able to judge of them, .and a determination in consequence of their sentiments would be formed by Government as soon as possible. The other Resolutions were then read and agreed to. On the Motion of the SECRETARY at WAR, leave was given to bring in the Mutiny Bill, and also the Marine Mutiny Bill. Mr. CORRY' rose in consequence of a notice given yesterday, to make a Motion relative to the Public Building in Dublin, known by the name of the Parliament House. As this building. was now unoccupied, it- had been thought adviseable to twilit to some useful purpose, and there was no one for which it had appeared to be better calculated than to allot it for, the reception of the National Bank, which in consequence it had been resolved to transfer thither. :He did not conceive it necessary to say any more on this subjea ; he should there fore merely move, " that leave be given to bring . in a Bill to enable the Lord High Treasurer, or Lords oommissi , mers of the Treasury of Ireland, to sell and dispose of that building in Dublin, called the Parliament House, with all its appurtenances, to the GOvernor and Compaq of ',the Bank of land." Leave was given. , The Irish Linen Manufa&tire Bill went through a Committee ; the Report to be received to-morrow. The Dutch Property Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. On the question being put, that the House .re solve itself into a Committee on the Irish Contro verted EleCtion Bill, - !' Mr. FOSTER said , he looked upon Lord Ga EN- V ILL E ' s ' Bill as one of the best ever passed, and he did not wish to see the Irish Members - deprived • of it's advantages, to which they ,had acquired title by the, Aa of Union. There were indeed opposite inconveniences - attending their situation. It was indeed inconvenient to bring witnesses from such a distance ; but it would be attended with still greater disadvantages to give up the trial by Jury, io - which light he considered the CoMmittees ap pointed by the Grenville A. It was dangerous to entrust the investigation of a Candidate's claims in. the hands of persons unable to form a proper judgment of them. He, should be-. glad to know. what was to be done upon the event of a Contro verted Eleaion in Ireland ; it was necessary to have a Member.of the Imperial Parliament brought over as a witness. Was the commission to stop all pro ceedings till he chose to come over, or were they to.proceed to a final decision, independent of his evidence, however essential. The Bill gave the new tribunal no powers to compel his attendance. The want of this power had been felt by,the Com mittees of the Irish Parliament formerly appointed to try Controverted Elec'tions'; and they had often been obliged to have recourse to the Hous‘e, to compel the attendance of witnesses, without whose evidence their decisions must have 'been made in direct opposition to justice. Ile - thought it very improper to make different regulations for Ireland and Great Britain. Trial by Jury was here given up, and written evidence admitted, instead of that ViVa CCC, by which me.iiis all the advantages to , be derived from confronting witnesses were lost ; aml,the evidence of the witnesses would also be in fitteoced by the kcal tribunal 'before which they were to he examined. He did not, however, mean to propose any alteration of the measure;. he merely meant to state his opinion, and enter his protest as an individual avairist it. • • , .- Mr- LEE said, that he should trouble the House with a few words io support of the Bill. It was very fir from his wish, or from the 'obj,.,Ct of this Bill, to give up tie principle of the Grenville Ad, which no inan in the House admired. more than he - did, because lie was convinced that the. , purity of Parliament depended more upon that At. than any other that had ever paSsed. It Was therefore far from his intention to depriveflre4md of the benefit of that At, he merely wished to make it applicable, as' far as it was possible, to Ireland. When the Q(.4.ion of Union was under conideration in Ireland, the trial of Controverted Eledions appeared to be the grog bar to that Measure, The Noble Lord who proposed the. Measure of Union in Ire land, and who, during its progress, displayed the greatest talents, .caralidly admitted that great diffi culties presented themselves upon the' suhjeit of .Controverted EleCtions. • He stared a variety of plans Which . might be propOsed to obviate this dif ficulty, though he pledged, and ultimately the point. was left for the .wisdom of the United Parliament, and conseqhently the Imperial Parliament, was hound to adopt some measure upon the subject. The .Right Hon. Gentleman seemed to think tha i t this Bill completely deviated from.the principles the Grenville Ad, but if the House would examine the Bill, they would find that it varied as little as it was possible Ervin, that At. The Provisions of this Bill were simply these when a Petition came from Ireland respeCting, it Controverted Eleaion, it was to be referred to a Commitree appointed according to the ,Provisions of the Grenville An. The par ties are then to be called before the Committee, and if the Question in dispute 'should he mercy of a legal nature, such as the construdion of an At} of Parliament, of .a Charter, &e. in such. a case he should think the Committee would not send the Question to a CommiSsion in Ireland, but would 'decide it as they would a Controverted Election in England. But in the case of a County Controveßed +.:lection, where the legality of some hundreds, or perhaps thousands of Votes were to be scrutinized, and where several witnesses must necessarily be examined, there he should think the Committee would properly send the Question to be examined by Commissioners in Ireland ; because the ex pellee .of bringing over perhaps a thousand or two of witnesses, would be absolutely ruinous. In the case of a Contested Election trot long ago, for the County of Tipperary, in which there was a Petition Which lasted near a year and a halt, the expence to the parties was not less than z'0,0001.. Now, if such an enormous expence was incurred from try ing. that question in Dublin, it was not going too fir to say, that it would be four or five times as great if it was tried in London. There was an other circumstance which, in. his opinions, deserved the attention of the house, It must be recoljeaed, that 'two-thirds of the Irish Members w.llt returned by Sheriffs who were' appointed by the Crown.—Now , if the expence of trying a Controverted Elcaion, under the Grenville 'A et ! was so great, Gentlemen Would be unwilling, ana indeed unable to assert' their rights by a ettion, the consequence would be, that of adding grea r i l Y indeed. to the influence of the Crown, because cite Return would he made by Sheriffs appointed bf objeaions to this- Bill was, the Crown. One of the Right Hon. Gentleman'a ble for the COthurnissioners 'in Ireland to compel . th e that it would be iMpOssi'• attendance of witnesses ; but if the Right f°l % Gentleman .would look at . the Bill, that there was full power vested in the Commis sioners for that purpose—He did riot atteroot !c l, deny,• that there was only a choice of difEcultie.s_i_n this, case, because, whatever'plati was adopted, great inconveniences would . ensue. It was at one titr e proposed to •send over. English MeMbers to It *l , land, to try those Eleaions ; .he would fitr . this plan he i.hu not propose, because, if he did, he should . I .ll ° st probably be.in a minority: It was then suggest ed ' that Irish Members ought to be sent over to at; those Eleaions ; but if there were five or six COP tested Elettions to try, it • would take, neatly the whole of the too Irisa' Members away froM th eir ,duty in Parliament to try them ; the objeal r e i o d r s e ; C I c . 1 l e : 36 E 11) , ° . f i ue d id e ll a f i i , therefore, to. these plans were insuperable, a' it was necessary to have recourse to some.other i tl : h r a o ob i u : g o e s h e rt ; i t r h t e ° ; l b i a t jw n e d ela t:h i d e r _ n ) f y .' l c 'e mode : the present one seemed to ,him the means in I each of tine that purpose, in the following manlier : Contending Parties were to produce a list of Lh re i Barristers, who were to be reduced hy ,striking °,, to two; those two were to appoint as Chaitmawe another Barrister, or,'‘ if they could not , ig.7,. thus appointed were to proceed in the choice of a Chairman, lie was t ; ` ) e ) appointed by the Committee. • The Comtniss'°rner6 _%;hich they were to transmit to.the Speaker of giventhe House of Commons, by whom it WiiS W be tO lions in England. He freely admitted to * the Committee, and upon that they werev_c, Coeirns'f°s-ragliyisihsieo°ll,ll7.leabiyo n b ric) It ITles,t,a!6_2: decide, as in the, case of Controverted 1-'l!_e Evidence was not so good as parole Evidence; of it should be recolleeted, that all the pruccediog.stto the Court. of Chancery were founded up' in wri . . ol in diet 'cl'•'l Evidence,- as. were:the proceedings side heard less the of the Exchequer, ad he never hear . less cL ) "" Decrees of those Courts were considered as courtg thetci hhe tried se by o a f , f t u a r k y i ; ng but E l , te i d a e p o p e r e e , h e: d c ct ' l o ll ‘ i f u tti t i n '3vr i r s i s a r i l o uconi'; burial, Oa of three Barristers would be the . pr o P er°st on -- 'to which to_ refer such e ques" - or 'rea these were the gruunds upon which he 011'110i). this Bill, not because he thought it f rCe i f ° c mole jedion, but because it appeared to hint _to , (: ige tio free from objek`tion togatan any o ther, at th e s ', t o th is he should be ready dopt any Aniendtne'll cold plan, by which the great objet of th is Pi nor, indeed, ;hat it be obta' • 1 w ith Lord . .E.II,II)LE said,- he took s haine 1 ' 63 011, pletely the . Wi l:ss, inconvenience.. - , b i m ielf because lie neither knew tl., provisions of '.. ev ev jag, till he came .;into the House.. He c l e_ ; o ' ill i should he 'glad if he could consent to this Bi 1 0 coin , other Gentlemate in - thAt 11 "u' e ' into a Cominittce, but it appeared to . hit'' s , , dor ijr he 1 03 '; Bill, WAS to he discussed thisrHoi than a , i which lie had T erhaps a greiner regar,,. o ye.., ditary regard for ir) that he should o ppose th is_..e of at variance with the Grenville ''‘' '--1 1 and if it was necessary, he would take the se" ye the House upon it. The ohjea of the G . renv • ' . * os from the House of Commons at law, for th ,e i bti c ACI was to take the trial Of Controverted hleeit,eur.. Po'se ofplaciog- that jurisdietion in a ,Coolri;iti '_!trce the objet of this Bill WAS to enable the Colot' . tic two' to delegate its powers to .Others,. a thing ; r eies od, had never heard of before, and w hici:, lie c'. 0 ,4 was perfeCtly new in pr,;ttic. The pw. r0t,_,....„ Con:init tee was to be delegated to three proleßarris:7l;s, he had a great respea.for°Gentlemen in lit 110 w, sioll in Ireland, as well as in England, hot ever- respeCtable the Gentlemen of that pr 0 7.0 0 might - be, there were some in thit as w el ' j et ' ' • and Y. other professions, that were a disgrace Corn' to it, ' no , they , might be • the persons appoin'ted iis these stoners ; a nd the House would observe, that bur trace , Commissioners were not only to take ev.---,idoce, they_ were to state their opinion -upo u the be jo. Crown. If these Barristers were Blini,r,r,iis;ternso,:vattahlelreeve,voutss, moou,6l,,hrtortiosioni:icor,f that kind in this Bill, on the contrary, he u ,the i , b„ stood that these Barristers were to be f ' R 1 ) to i •to la rn erelY he 1 301 the evidence, he s h ou ld nor t io o k so ill of I I e e viP as he did, but they were not only to ta1 . :.e.,•! - ) - u pon deuce, but they were to give their uoin; u pOr 4 the effect of it, which was virtually to decy ti} or the question. Upon these grounds lie sit to pose this Bill.t, as :Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he would sta— ea shortly as he could, the reaionspors why li e su!ig t he this Bill. It was certainly flue, that du r/ ,' cl ear o og discussion of the question of Union in TallithnY'b lit .difficulties arose with regard to the plan . 05 . its to be adopted for trying Controverted Ele4 l ° ill y A tilt ° Ireland. The . difficult stmt existed, an.' 4 . 1 oat could be adol" e 0 0 question now was, •W'hat pla'n cou , "etice s '' was attended with the fewest inOoPvol Wyse plan could be totally exempt from them thisc o f in. therefore must balance' the different ciegr ee zio pf. wilattVer ', v : 4 - 16 54 convenience. If no, regulation ed, then the expence attending the tiial d in foCl, Controverted EleCtions in Engiancl, .w°u l . ' di , e:(', amount to: a denial of justice, beca os ' - v oul4 pence would be so great, that . Gt.Jlt l o ) 1 ,,,,, ex' rather forego: their right, thao uoderte.oin`c"l,e ad. pence, of maintaining it. At the same ti '_' ese ng ' the Or _ to ca f th e • (I witte that 'there were objettions Bill ; lie was sorry that the necessity _o e,:ic t wo . required that the Conawittee should d . 1( L )t dos written rather than upon parole. evidence ; '-' ,i) dot Could be . applied. The great objet. e iL e fi r of tithe was an evil to which he did not see. any . r e e ' ll w lli f e . attain was, to give to Ireland the tult pot ,06s ible . , but that some restridions were neossaq • Grenville Aft, ,with as few restrittlons as tva ' 5 00'