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I ir.stanceslre supposed to haw a harsh leaning on ouch a slihjt-ct. Depocits of those who died intes tate were also to be arranged. It had been 'sag vetted to !inn to embody in this Bill something re lative to Charitable Loom (which be was most .rnaions to encourage, for they were found extreme- I v.surefu I. siad.Batb),.Lat hadoctined ,Nei; so, from a wish that the 801 l should appear in thy filailiest and simplest fornt.—l wtr n measure calculated to do 11091 e good for toe lower order* of the community, than any other ...hies could he contemplated. It was his intention that the 11,11 should he printed, for the purpose of 'its -bring well attrietstood before it lass filially con •soidered ; and that a fortnight's notice should he c,iven before its to. •t.ol. Ile felt great plem..iire in adding, that the intention was as well received in irelaud, HP it was Ili liiir reittlilTy• Mr. BARCLAY tuna t 011.11411 y approved of the 'policy of this Ball. Sir J. Netrroar mi.!, that • great deal of un "trertaierty prevailed in 'lreland on this subject. sod •the •particulara of the Bill were most anxioustr siwnitalli He fully concurred in the opinion, that tin measure was avictilattil to confer so much ad vantage span the community, and particularly in Ireland, where the poor were without that mode of relief which the law pmvided in this country. Their incapacity to saes any little sum for the sustenance •of old age, was also well known. The Honourable Ilatonet strongly urged, that the money of the so. Bitty rhoulil be vested in national securities, and that regulationi should he rigorously adopted, to prevent any unnecessary sum remaining in the hands of any Of the officers. Mr. Home concurred in this opinion. The Bill was then ordered to be read a second time on Fri day mitt. On the motion of Mr. FINLAT. all papers pre sented wore the 3d of April, relative to the trade in foreign linens. were ordered to lie printed. The Gaol Fees Abolition Bill was urdreed to be read a second note on Friday nest. LICENSED DISTILLERS. Sir N. C. COLTHURST presented a Petition from the Licensed Distillers of Cork. preying the matte's. tiou of the Legishiture, to the state in which they wrre placed. It appeared, that since the late ad ditional duties lad bean imposed, they haddistillril 1/20,000 gallons of spirits, for which they were un able to Immure any wisrket. The 11011. Baronet enforcedalre claims of this most respectable body. upon the.auention of the Legislature, and (deserved, that as a question connected with this subject stood for discussion that night, he would at that moment confine Wowed! . to the preeenteion of the Petition. It was accordingly raid, said ordered to lie on the table. Sor C. Morten was proceeding to make some re nooks relative to a private Bill. when The Sexes In interposed, and suggested the pro. • prit ty of the Hell/Nt confining itself to early hours in private business, and that Gentleman engaged thrreiu.►hould he earlier in attendance. It was lull tittle to proceed with public businees.—lneur.) CONTRIBUTIONS FROM FRANCE. Sir JAME* NI AelltltlTo6ll roar to bring before the Home u subject whit h was entitled to the most be llow consideration, relative to the sums of money obtained by the British Government from that of Prance. He was desirous to have it determin ed whether those sums, or any to a greeter amount, placed under similar circumstances, should lw con sidered AS droll* of the Crown, and he applied by the Sovereign to defray his own private expenses ? Whether. at the end of every successful war, the King of Great Britain might open this new source of revenue, and appropriate indefinite aunts of inn siey, innependeut of tier control of Parliament ? Could any man then deny, that the question was rase litterbug the vitals of the constitution, inas much n' that in whatever degree the power or inde- Iwildence of the Crown is increased, so far is the au thority of Parliament diminished, and the bulwark of lour lilwrber fallen to the ground. No one could .lunlit time power of Parliament to question such an exercise of authority, on its first appearance in the history of our laws and Constitution. lie depre cated the introduction of legal subtleties mid legal qc.t,ations on such a subject; and, instead of heel illy it With such a burden, he would Want the /louse not to he misled by their upprarunce, fur they wcuild lw improperly brought before such an atiseinbly, whose proviece it was to regulate tlw Courts of Law, and to reduce their eccentricities to the plainer standard of common venison. Ile hoped. theiefore, that he should not be told by law) CM, that unless he could 'thew some siolutitto of a piirtirular law, he could not. substantiate bit clew ; hut he contended thud 11w word mistitii ti I, however indefinite the ideas ion fiequelitly ettaelwd tie it, bore as distinct a signification as the word awl as an mines might be deemed illegal which violated the spirit, without in fringing the direct letter of the law, so may it Le uswouelitutional, if it militated against the gesieral spirit of those laws and priiseivlett, • lbose combined operation formed what was com monly called the Comititution. Ile declared his in tention of being perfectly dispussionate throughout; lie would not eburge the present \ lieisters with nos design to miryr the r otettuottoo, hot he would • o deuviiiir to go iril against eillehho;„ al.r future t vernment in thaw the prewat 'raw:genial silo a pic a:relent. I hiving ilia* far twriiiittcol hiemi t II to enter into preliminary observations be should lay before. the [louse the nature of these tiaviiitutts from Fruited to which he untitled. Ily the Definitive Tame) of Piece. tlw King of France etigeged to pay and support the army of occupation. In consequence of that eligT4riiirilt. the \Moister' came to the Howse, and said, thut they would not submit any vote respecting the !my of that twiny. Never Was a Minister guilty el ii more unadvised proceeding than in 6114 attempt mg to withdraw the army from the control of loa men% The constitution haul min bled ( . . , rialol ionise; restraints against the tremendous power nf the Fverutive, and one, the most islets!, us the twist 0E6..0, was ilw power vested in tilt, gnu 1111 l g inoory for the ti stand i:ag army. This rlllerk.e.taltlislietl :it the elorions I:titillation, it was iteriously proposed by !thin:arts to iihrot..,..tte, and 50 fur ellCrt a couister-revolution, wad s ubmit right to night. 'Flint matter w a s, h ow . • er, c orrected; fur Nliiiititers oripleatly v.. tt II o :e.ttion or ho. Hon. nicittl (Mr. Wyiii(, that the fur the ariti,y of uctuvitiou should Le voted. Whether that intent arose Ituten Mt motives dt• not. be should nut then .eitornine, al though some thenliblitiMet connected with it woe oymptoms that they wen mat eo. The secoad pity meet from France was designated as au indemnity to this country for all the sacrifiers she had made, arc) the dodgers she had encomarred, laud was re pea sented in the protocol as amoipitiug at lewd • to 4,000.0001. Named, however, of te a r obta . ' g such a sum, it appeared that tley charge. of the army of observation, in the three first 'meta of their manicure on the frontier, of Fromm, would flared the sums to he paid during the time, arid that it depended solely on the contingency of our enjoying peeve for live years, that at the expiration or the whole period we should Morrill a sum not exceed ing 500,0001.—(Hear, hear.)--The neat great squestiou for the coesideration of the Douse was, an rirticle to the Convention for giving the sum of 1,400,0001. to the British I:menet:eta, to be given as a donative to the British mid Russian troops. Tin. might be taken either of two ways--either the motley was paid to the British Govereimeitt, es trustees, on an implied engagement !het it should be &debated to time army —or. that it rested with theGovenenent not to share it among the army, but apply it to any other general purpose. He he. lieved it was for the former ; sod particularly as to the cousideratinis for the grant. the capture of Pons was specified, which chewed that the money was given to the army by way of ransom for the city. In Idle point of view, the House had to con template a novelty iii this country; for here was a donative from a foreign Prince to an English army, forming a counection of attachment, a de pendence, a bond of gretitude front a British army to a foreign King! .-(Hear, hear.)-If, on the contrary, it be asserted, that the Crown might die. pure or the mouey.to other purposes, it must be emisideved as a direct dottative from the King of Great Britain to his army, without the interference of Parliament. lie hoped that im one would so far misiondenutand him, as to suppose hitu hostile to grantiug a reward to the army for their great and signal serviette. Ile was as well aware of their merit, and as willing to reward it, as another—he oily cositended, that their reward should come from ' the gratitude of their country to the army, awl taut ' as a laterite' hem a Monasch to his soldier's.— lir now came to the main question, which was, ' whether t I we. smug, se granted by enliven i sou, should be considered as droits of the Crown, maul &sloe 'able by the Sovereign to his private mute, for the increase of his enjoyments, the foreishing of levees which are not Ropil Palaces, and for tourist's -1i of niunificence. Ile was ever unwilling to coverlet the metes of tlw Sovereign'a eirjoyoents ; if be had any fault respecting that, it was ratite- the coterie'', for belted ibu lersitatioe in saying, that, the emits a Ow peiliale bring first conedered, the •• A ; l oy in e n r, rat the Prince and the means of lloyal muudimice should us-err hw cuetracted—should even Jae Ili creased if uweemary; loot it should he by the vote of the Douse, anal not elrudestinel, casually, or at the exeenee of the just rights and privileges of I'arlianient.—(ileat.)-7:o one could doubt that tiote sums of mi n i ey weir cl • eel us droits of the Crown, after haying lieu el t h e distinct declaration or the Chancellor of the Escheeuer on the sub ject, who, if in. were then absent, he WOlllll say possessed seffieieest tiersonal authority to give the claim considerable aright from his own assertioue mid his personal claim to respect ; and who, al though prettent, he might be all Owed to say, must have great importance attached to his declaration of a right. room his official situation, and front his being a lawyer of considerable research and expe rience. Front this consideration hr should feel ex tremely desirous to hear the Right Honourable Gesitlemari produce his grounds amid authority for declaring the Crown 'tweeted with the power of exercising an act of ownership over sums thus ac quired, as NA tuderimity to the country for all its sufferings Burl dangers. The act of ownership, to which lie more purtiruhirly referred, was the appro priation, by a letter f the Lords of the Treasury to the herd of the Cm 1111 l issariat, or 250,000 frames, part of which was given us the subscription of the Prince Regent, towards erecting a monument to Cardimil de York, and the rest for defraying the ex peuster of tramporting the works of art belouging to the Pei re from Frueee nits, Italy. "Ilie latter of these might he esteemed a public service, but be could drei g a,ate the former as 'staling better than an ant bieimus measure, carting an honour over suit ill. Willdb WllOlll eumunlicence could no longer le exer cised, an ostentatious display of attention dear aii huts, as dem•rwirol from a royal family which, had deservedly ceased to lie royal, and throwing tier :lain oEn:hellion oil the Revolution, sod our Lima— teas alio %chit veil it. 'this was a serious question, as a targeted the character of that Revolution, to 4411 they who venerated their ancestor.. The sub scription to the inoilusiirsit iir Cardinal de 'York was perieetly a private grant to II private purpose, and as the amount or the slim did tent street the plea:title, that appropriation was, its fact, chat ll i ll g au ownership in the entire, apnea which he rose to express his protest. until lie should be convinced of his error lay died strength of opposite arguments, and a decision of the noose. The proof of the right depended alto gether with those who claimed it, has thee-chum reml on the tumbler ground, turd would not depart from it, until shuken by the arguments of the Noble Loud and the Kight Mao. Gentleman. The greet pruiciple of our Constitution wax the dependence of the Clown on Parliament for supplies; if it were asserted that the Crocus might receive any by treaty from fort igii Powers. it must also lw acknowledged that the iwicions amid trruties or Charles ii. with Louie X IN'. were perfectly justifiable. It might indeed be said, that his pensions were taken tor a ball purpose, but the present money was for a good one, and that the respoesibility of Ministers %%a. GlWllyll sufficient to larnteet the eoutitry from dangerous enii.eiluetices. This defence he allowed, bait %%1w can't' secure its extent to guard against et,ry 'amble:eta evil, or prevent a repetition of the eery crimes that had been already perpetruted? With respect to dime iwnoions or Charles the Ind. Uwe. apptered lately the evidence of une of the principal agents in the whole transactions—it was that of James the 11(1. then Duke of York, whose history was lately published. In that he mention ed, that the Duchess or Portsmouth induced 1 Charles to make her a grant of 10,000/. nut of the French pension, '' which was the King's only de fence against the tyranny of Parletineut.".mm" Non meets lie sera.," Continued Sir Jamerhiactintosli t these are not my ssettimetits, they are those of the Duke of York, who designates the siecersity of looking to the [louse of Coalitions, as the only source for supplying the King's necessities, es the tyranny of Porliament."—/ Hear. bear.)—But this, he observed, was not all; the power claimed by the Crown of apprmiriatiog sums obtained by treaty from foreign State* would be an induce ment to bad Ministers to a dvise the King for the worst purposes; so that in future negotiations the subject of consideration would not he the valte ola fortress or an island, as it insured the safety of our other possessions. but according to the sum our Ministers could obtain for them. There wooed bur half a million for Guadeloupe—half a million for Martinique—and so on. Nor let the House conceive such an occurrence as merely chimericarb • . for Charles I I. thus disposed of Dunkirk ; noel trite 1 near not one King of England act as smother King of becloud has meted ?—(Hear, hear.)—The e Inds too of the Convention were remarkable—for there it was rimed dint the indemnity to the Allies could he neither wholly pectimiery, nor wholly territorial, for either might exasperate the French nation.— The iodemuity was therefore toms ded of loath, and the more money was given, the less was the territory. The money was theta to be cmsidereil se the purchase of territory ; and thus was repeat ed, though in a less direct manner, the very con duct for which Cluirlee was censured, iu bee ismg sold Dunkirk, and which became one of the in-ticks of impeachment against Lord Cla rendon for haring advised it. But this indem uity, he repeated, should never be at the disponi of the Sovereign. It was a compensation to the country for its sacrifices, and which could net be received by the Suvereigu but es the steward of the public. All the eloquent tongues and bens of Europe have been celebratiog the exertions of Great Britein iii the arduous struggle in winch she was engaged, und in the dangerous crisis from which he hoped she lied escaped. That subject was far above hint to attempt, particularly us it had become so hackneyed mid so trivial ; but surely it would be allowed line to say, that those who contributed so aitamiy years to time Income Tax. should enjoy every alleviat 1111 l that the chances of war could funnel'. —(Near, hear, hear.)—lle might hear stop, leaving it for those on the opposite side to lariug authorities to substantiate their claim, but ' would mmilvance a step farther, and quote audio- ' ritim to discomatenance it. In so doing hr should confine himself to the period since the Revolution, for it was since that event that the OOPS voted by Parliument were for specific purposes. He found on the Journals of the 9th of June, 1714, at a eine, too, when the majority of the House of Com mons erre nut adverse to the Crowie and were rat tier suspected of being tainted with principles not very favourable to the subject's liberty; yet et' that time. the House being apprised of the Queen's having retained for herself a quarter of the pro duce of the Arsiento Contract, an Address was voted, ruling of her Majesty that the gunner of the Assirnto Contract may be disposed of to the public uses, awl in discharge of the debts of the nation. Those who are acquainted with the anecdotes of tease timer, must be aware, that a part of that produce was to be vested in trustees for the use of ;its Queen, and that two of the trustees were persons celebrated—mien Prime (Minister, the other a Court favourite—Lord Bo lingbroke and Mrs. Maritime The Queen huml also appropriated the revenues of Minoriet and the rents of the 1 ses at Gilmilter ; moil the Cumming likewise addressed her Majesty, that those revenues might severally he applied for the support of tin it respective garrisons. The Queen, apprised of this resolution of the Continues, had, previous to re ceiving the Address, returned to the South Sea Company due part of the Assiento Cotitract which she land appropriated, end answered the Comminute to that effect, reservine, however, the Minorca and Gibraltar revenues. The Co tttttt ons again voted au Address of Thanks to her illirjesty, for the support she gave to Crude, and assured her that they would arinieste in all her measures for the lwnefit and Hs-tease of flat hide mid commerce of tlw kiegdotu. This Address was carried by 168 ayes to 139 nova. The tellers for the noes, on that reicasion, were Wulpoie smut Pulteney, who then agreed in depre cating the Address, ss wit sufficiently disapproving the inimpplication of the public. revenues, usual for not attending to the reereseutations of the House. The use el the word acquiesce," in the Address, eppeared, however, a pretty clear proof of time ideas diem' entertained respecting the right of the Crown tm, those revenues, for it itnplicif a power of wnh hnldiug to their epplicatiou by t heGove tttttt east. lie neat proceeded to what lie considered the great precee .sit on which he would res. his case. It re feree; le what temmk place is, the months of Jaimary, March, and April, of the year 1765, just four years after the pleasing of the Civil List Act. A proposal was then made by the French Ambits. sailor in Loudon to the British Govemmeet, of a certain sum of money, us a compensation for the expenses of prisoners of war. On time 15th ofJe !wary. 1765, the Chancellor of thee Exchequer (Mr. Grenville) sent down to tire Ilouse, and Kneed, dint he hail received that declaration, and that lite Majesty was desirous of taking the sense of hie faithful C 1111 l WOOS not the amount which might be accepted from France. Out the 21st of Jannary, the 1 !Mum voted am Address of Thanks to his Majesty, mid recommended the acceptance of the proposal. On the iid of Mardi, a Copy of the Convention,. concluded between the Due de Guiche aud Mr. Grenville, was submitted for the sanction of the House, and soon after they received u certificate front Viscount Barrington, who was then Auditor of the Exchequer, that the sums so stipulated fur had been paid into the Treasury. This ciieutustence, considered in all its parts, was, in his opinion, one of the strongest proofs that no idea we* then entertained by Goveremeht, that those sums belonged to the Clown. The last authority to winch lie should refer was a series of statutes respecting the establishment of the East India C pony, and their territorial posses sions. Time cases were precisely anailneous, fur the territories of the East bidet Coinpeny were vested them for certain SOW. of* money, which were to he considered prices of territory, as were thW slums lately received from France. Yet those suns to be paid by the C palmy were never considered as be- Imaging to the Crown, lint were turd, red in the seve ral Statutes to be rendered available to the public musky. and although appointed to be , pad into his Itlitjesty's Excheqeer, it was as to the steward of the people. Ile expectea mane authorities !riot ed to prove the right of the 'Cvliwn ;• but, if I I de pended opt au usage, it Mort be an usage that oc curred fiequeutly, in good times, and sot,' as had been generally known, publicly discussed, and sanc tioned by legislative isothatity; wet-founded on a precedent surreptitiously obtained, or gleaned from the archives of an office, scattered over a century ; not sorb a one as war afforded by the sale of Don t:irk, iu the iufatnour reign of the infamous Charles ; not an iisa : te established by the same means as ship-money, or general warranty. Hach could not satisfy him s.r the country. and could have no in fluency on the question. lie could not conclude pith the usual profession, that lie would glad to Gull he had been mistaken in his view of the sub ject; on the contrary, he should be extreitielv sorry to himd that such 14 principle existed, as that against which lie contended—laid it would be some 4iti-faction to Lim to know that botch a principle bad existence, that it nii4lit lie proceeded against without loss of time, tint totally eradicated.— fienr, henr.)-1 le continued by moving a series of ltrsolio ions, in subitaitee as full OVni Resolved—Thatt. it appears to the House that the sum of 700,0001. was, by Cumenti tttt , dated October, ISIS, to lie grnated by Frame to the Hill oh Government, is lieu of the revenuer of the districts occupied by the army of occu pation. 2. That it appears to the House, that France had engaged to pay to the Itritiah Government the sam of 4,616,0001. as are indemnity fee the expense of She war. 3. That it appeals to the House that the coistribetioes to he paid by Franc, are iimilegarle to defray the charges of the army, at ilw mid of the there hot years, and that it is not until the expiration of five years, that a rum of tasty half a million eau be obtained by Great Britain. 4. That a 1141111 of 1,400,006/. had bees allotted to Great Briars, in consiilerst WO of lwr having principally siu4mired 11w burden of the war, and of the capture of Paris, is trust, to be distributed as a donation to the army. b. That all monies received from Fruitier had been paid into the Military Cheat, except about 10,000 f. which had been given to the Che valier Canova, for the erection of a isionument to 11w Canteen! de Took, alma far defraying the expense's( transporting the works of art belonging to the Pope from Frame into Italy. R. That the application of soma of money to any service. without the consent sit Parliament, is not %smutted by ap proved nsage 9 and, it drawn into precedent, world endanger the right of Parliament and dm liberty of the people.— ( Hear, Amur.) The first Resolution bring read— The COMICELLoR of the Exctifelma heeded, from the Hon. and Learned Gentleman's own admission. that, in point of strict law, every thing which had been done on the part of the Crown. with reference to the subject to which he had adverted, was justified. The Hon. and Leant ed Gentleman. however, with a view to the plausi bility of his own argiituents, had not sufficiently dwelt upon the distinction between the contri biaions paid by France previous to the signing of the Treaty, and those which had been paid since. The emits illutiens before the Treaty tif Peace, were, in point of fact, the booty of veer, due to the prowess era eosin in army, uud were stated in the Convention of Pans, to be its lieu of those contri butions which the Allied Army, on entering Puri% had a right to exact, by way of ransom. These, he apprehended, upon the authority of all former precedents, jure helunged to the Sove reign, and were. legally speaking, at his disposal Hear. j —A small punt of this aunt, hoverer, lie had only appropriated to particular siervices—neme ly, to the removal of the works of art treltutging to the Pope to Route, and to the erection of a monu ment to the last surviving branch of the House of Stuart. The remainder was left iii the military chest elf the Duke of Wellington. With respect tothe second part of the transoctioli—uanicly. the sums which had been received since the signing of the Treaty, and which had been granted by way of intim. nits for the expenses which we had incurred during the war, this iuvolved entirely anew question, and be would be ready to admit the justice of the Ilun. and Learned Getalemait's arguitiesits, provided the Crown had taken upon itself to appropriate these sums otherwise than to the purposes fur which th e y were received. He begged leave to state, however, that the lion. and Learned Gretleniun bad totally misrepresented the statement which he made on this subject 0:1 ri former night. The,Hon. and Learned Gentleman suid, that he represented the whole of this sum to be droll% of the Crown. and disposable by tlw Crown sit its pleasure. Ile would appeal to the recollection of the Douse, however, whether he had ever held such an argument ? or whether, on the contrary, he had nut distinctly *bard in the early part of the Session. that these sums had been received, and were to be applied soled) and exclu sively to the public service ?—/ flea?, hear. J—The Sovereign, as the trustee of the 1114t1011, was the only person by whom these aunts could be received. and, as became the duty of such trustee, lie held them till the manner of their application to the public service was determined upon. He never did con tend that this motley was applicable to any other purpose ; but had unequivocally announced the in tention of the Prince Regent, both with regard to the sums actually received under the Treaty, rend those yet to be received. to apply them to the pay ment of the expenses of the unity on the Continent. With respect to the adequacy or inadequacy of the snins to this purpose, that was a matter of no im portance, although lie was prepared to contend that the contributiens sit the end of the live yeals would exceed thaw expenses. It appeared hem the ac counts on the table, that the slim ulreaely received bur lals was Litt 15 anillious of byres. or COO,OOO/. sterling,. '1 his might hell shout of the expenses to be deli ayed this jeur but io the nsxt sear, the payment would he increased to 40 billions of livres, and at the end of the live yeais it was tqiniatt d that there would be a surplus of 500,0001. Another proposition a hich the Don. aid Learned Gentle man hail subsidtted to the House was, that the sum intended to Le applied to the army, being reeeitt'd from a foreign Power, was to be viewed by the Douse with just suspicion reprebeii!-tOtl, If the ibuitillohlet and Ltaimil Gentlemen would loan to the Consuntion, hour, ver, he weldd find that it would nut admit of the interpretation which lie seemed to hare pit upon it, f or h e ai c a perceive that it Mated that the simi of teem %- five millions of byres, or w..e million %blimp, ex:.s appropriated for the Extrilardr,iary Services 4.1 the British and Prussian armies. to their icsocetive Sovereigns, tied not tat the armies tloaust !sea. 11'hatever those leCtisA. tht•refow, %%!is tht bounty of their Sovereigns, untl iu ins rearect Ida . . • gilt of a foreign Poner.—(//ear.)—Tite Hain eeri Learned Gentleman then stated that the COll of she CrOWil, ins the present oceadres, Y.H wiii-ly different the precedent of Queen Anne, in the A—. ota m and in u s ni tta t t l i s o e n cu ol r i e ti: (l l ° e!o l po rd sa i t i l l oa r s ° 7;. r d t , " ::::t! Treaty (a eircuusetenee, by the bye, which i:a ne w days could not hut be regarded with whereby 'she stipulated to receive one-fonrth pal of the Slave *Trade of the Spanish NVese Indae, Tot the privileges which she granted to the Snee i S. Company. On thieocuiston the Hon. and Lear ee l Gentleman had stated, t h at P.rlitsnent had sent up an Address to her Majesty, praying that the would apply the produce resulting from this Tieetir to the public. service. So far was this from implant:. iug the lion. mid Learned Geetleinim's argameee however, that it had a contrary effect. For its this 1 4 . stance it distinctly shewed ,t hut Parlisinie reco...,e.e.d the right of the Crown to the slims in qUeistloll*, sought that se a boots, to which the pulsate erre not constitutionally entitled. And t'st..Qutees's answer Cie more strongly confirmed this feeling ; ler iii %pe e k. log of some minor sums, she •said 41. e would apply them as she thought best for her The other precedent quest! by the Man :old Learned Gentlemen, etubraerd a tee:secure; all lees applicable to Isis argument lie alluded ... lie Dutch Treaty of 1763, respecting the expel.., e t the support of prisoners of wet. This witch• arose out of u eettlemeut of account, oligennee. in Parliasneutury grates, wish *limn the Cr'...i ,71 nothing to do, mid therefore asothiug coal he inure wise than for the Crown to have it to the House of Commons to bay: whether they erre e a . tisfied with the proposal of the French King or not —( Hear, hear.)—The third precedent inerieraeed by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, WWI a, hide applicable to the proposition he meant to sae, e o rt as the two former. He alluded to the color et e l le the East ludia Company, for the rue sal of their charter. The sum paid for this a ..,s-,- Cage was stipulated by Parliament, a .1 was consequently placed under the control of P at h,. tnent alone, independetst of the Crown. The I nouruble end Learned Gentleman had ne‘: ae,- mudverted upon the danger which might .a... a i from placing ut the divpueal of the Croats, duriee five years, a sum of live or six istiliions, independent of Parliament. lie wi.ite.l ask the Hon. sad Learned Gentlemen a to: such danger was apprehended in the het year, envoi Parliament without heeitatioie had placed Lt 01,• disposal of the Crown sin less a sum time six mil lions ?—(Hear, hear.)—Was there any fear then rat' the Crown becoming independent of the reo i .f. ; and, if not there'ulson what principle we, :mei/1 , 1,14 to be hsrboured now ?---(Hear, 1 - lon. and learned Gentleman had hinted at the temptation to snake bad treadles., and 11l the real interests of the comatry. for the siai,e pecuniary reward. It' Ministeis could h e ea wicked, he apprehended the motto' et l'arhinaent would at all times expose them to anal would effectually check such iniquity. As to the application of the sums which had been lei (It'll, this had already been determined by Patlis.aacet the Supplies which Cicy had voted ; for tho, ;at e ,. like the surplus of the votes of the f..i we, year. would be included in the Ways and ills ens, and thereby prevent the rectirienee to other mode,' of defruyieg the expenses which had bw a S3t•tliontA by Parliament. Upon the whole, a, the theicera hie and Learned Gentleman did not slaw Huy in.-- ajplicatioss of the money in qnestion, or irip,,Ate conduct no the pint of the Crown, he should mute the previous question. The Amendment having been put from the Chair, Mr. TIERNEY observed, that the argument. of his Honourable and Learned Friend nail the effect of establishing all that he wished—name.:v, the sums received by way of indemnity Irons France, was received by the Crown, n ut ea, its separate use, but for the use of the puhlie. That was the object of his speech; and it haat be, 15 fully attained. 11'hatever aught have been lime .t.- ietstioti of the Crown upon this subject, he thole : id. it ought to have been made known to Parilatt!' by II Message. Such had been the course by Mr. Pitt, with respect to the Dutch De..ie He thought the more secure tuode on this vie:- 'don would have been to hare pund the ta.bli, y into the Exchequer, and to have left it for leo.•. - mess( afterwards to dispose of it as they t 1,.K expedient, and not. as seemed to be the prirt spend it first, and account fur she merle et 'ls prnditure alterwurds. The House ouelit to inee some security that this money would i.e apple it the public service. There was sufficient suspect that tins would not be the cues., le ea •',. stun expended in the erten iiii of is iimelielea., 1. Cardinal de l'olk. the proposition or ;he a. • tion of this monument had beets sul.mlttctl 14, House, he was sure this suns alrea.l) give.' enii not have been voted ; nor did he behete Lord (Castlereugh) would have had iii' lace come down with such a propoeition. Tlx ; of the country contained the hest I1M:U:nel , l House of Stuart, and afforded a la ss..aa to :MK • . that alien they acted ill, the ;serne would them out of the country.--I,lker.)—He ue• Cast those eii;.,agell its the iretle of NVaterioo e entitled to a aresaral, hot snitcher wmahl ge • ' the exteet al u 1111111 W) lk question; • might not obi •ri to sits I: :I si vet he could #..A from If tea ths-re were its' rti.... soldiers, who were h t ' acrid, nt from le present at that bustle, a lio nets: eqteilly eatitlea.s.• participate its l'utt reward. UpOls the %bob.. 1.. thought Parliametst might to act for and the the money should be halted in the Exchequer. :• I left for there to dole it out as they iieg;.t Lett proper. Loral CASTLEREAGH considered that the !Tel.!' of his Right lion. Friend (the Chancellor oft r Exelierpiel) hail iellinved all ground of jealoc‘ wards the Clown oa this oeeasioa—(l au undoubted Inuu tide, that 141 rows feet:lb.:l u - der treaties were applicable to the public soy and hence it nil, unnecessary that the C:-•••- should Wake any communication apon the tone ., '• The House, in opprovieg of the ticinies which e 1.i.l before them, sic.ciioned the itt-tipt of t • money, mid the Crown held it as the steward e ; t( public, to be applied as Parliament c•- rect ; and it would be found dole acknewlcil.rel in the 'Ways :hid Mraes of the year. Right IloileurAle man (Mr. Tieriii•)'. f I.` i ; ‘.