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~; r 4 I r I .isteniis.- It of smuts* 41lemma the duty of the .A41., 1 blindly not to put Officers io peril of mut waste to:, _thee own foetuses, and the tenswitiaden werreon eequestly leech matrioted Is -to the execudeti dfd their enters:: - Re''detcribed' Abe • chief gent of the piratteal hirdesib be en ,the . western 4f Cuba, rushed • lithe ear out ,froar lends and them felt. iscir,. mai WO* dirtem 'Piaci& hid theisretves in Beet gamier of the island ••hicts wasfilled with jungle, sad was to the' inha. banal* of the iilehd uniiihebitable. 'the difficulty tp iu paving theatcut cif by land while the British plietiited them into their haunts. Ao apple. filitte44,4 o 44bess made more than once to the no. vcrepr t iof Cnba, to allow fortes to be lauded fur that purpose; bat the Goveroor did not fire! war itantril, without positive order', to accede. Upon thia the Admirably had Made a proper representa tion to the Government, and his hisjestVs Minis ter", be believed, had applied to the Coen or Spain ou.the 'Abject. If they could once obtehe the con. cutrence of Spain, the busioeas would bedtimes it would only be for the Gsveromeet of the Wend to mewl demi torces to eo-operste with the British resmen, to cat off their retreat iato the fastnesses, ash le the +hips or boats pursued them to the shore. He expressed his convictiois that there was upon the whole no great damage abstained by !lritish traders, ansi explaiiied the Teasel*, grounded on international lave, which prevented the Admiralty fitnn exteuding the proirebon of the British arms to foreign ruerchaudvaing its theeeinsnisoi , i , e• The Marquis of Lonnoithined• NM there would be no difficulty in the inert& if the ships did not bear commissions, but these mere so nturierous in those seas as to frustrate all the iirrangiments of the Admiralty. toverunent had done its utmost by issuing su order to seise and detain ell rhino commissioned, issuing out of ports which here un der no Court and .had no responsible eiptipmentr. Liut fresh iitcouteuiroce arose from this; las there were eccationil acts of violence committed, which brought eery serious consequences in the way of sorts and *damages in our own courts upon ;he curnmetidera.: To acquit the regular Go yernments of any disposition to countenance thrift practicee(after reading the particulars of the closes betels alluded to from the accounts remitted to the Poreigu'Office), he proceeded to read the answer which he had received in reply to the re inenstreuct of the British Court from the Spanish 14;nister. The remonstrance conveyed the resuliition Of the British Court, in case of the Worst, to take the affair imotheir own htnds,and extend' protection to their subjects without further consultation with the Cori of Spgia. The answer deprecated the eutragercomploined of, and contained a copy of instrnctions *lnch bad beets for wended to the Go veruor of Revaneall, to do every thing in his power to pet down the piratical depredations. lie stated What had been the conduit of the American States ire their eseaagescut of this mete difficulty,•and *dinetted that they had given considerable protec tiun to British alcrrhantwitn, haring in severe( in. stances actually rescued them from the pirate'. Me had great hopes of the happy adjustment of the diffieulty, ooterithstandiag the want of due contiec tiou betweee Spain and the Colonies, and expected the speedy concurrence of Spain in ti plan which would asocossfully toot Out the offending hordes; sad if, upon temperate and friendly temonstnnee. It was found that Spain could not give them any eteurity from oggressions of such a nature, undoubt -014 the °increment of Great Britain must take upon Bedf the protection of the rights and property of British shier. trading is those snot. Mr. BRIGHT liopect, that this matter would not rat with mere explsoations. He conceived that the depredutoss were clearly wittim the desciiptioa, and curglit to be subject 'to tbst treatment of pirates.— Observing that uo less than five English vessels had been rescued by the American navy, and coda'. denim that there was no less zeal in British than Ametioan seamen and officers, hr could not disco ver what could give their operations so much more effect than those of this nation. f#e conceived that siglabad would be justified is proceeding 'unmanly to destroy that band of robbers by the law of nations, whether Spain concurred in the purpose or not. Mr. MARIVIATT said, that a great many Wits were stilts,/ under commirsious granted by Artigas, which were withdrawn several years ago, and all those acting under them incurred the' penalties of piracy. He could not conceive what was to prevent them from beiag taken Ned treated so. They were not only Intkiag on the coast of Cuba, but were frequently , taken on the high seas, which they mo- Inked all about the islands. As to looking for re dress to the Spanish Government, he considered the proposal futile. It was notorious, even by pipets on the table, that Cuba refused to acknowledge either the Government of Spain, or any other Go. veraupent—that there bad been, contrary to all the tetra and policy of the old Government, free trade carried on there with all nations—that after the esa tablishmeet, according to treaty, of an Admiralty Court to try and condemn vessels taken is the slave traffic. the judgments of those very Courts had been art aside by arbitrators appointed under the insular Governmeot. He saw no remedy for the evil but proceeding in a summary way to seize and destroy those enemies who nestled upon the western maw, acd swarmed so destructively to commerce in the Straits through which it must pass them to reach the various deetir.stious. , Sir G. Cocusuarr admitted that it the craft were plsiuly piratical. they might be as directly put.. sued and !Jut to death ; but there was scarcely one of them which did not bear a flag under tome re gular commission, and there was nothing for it but the co-operation of Spain in puttiog them down. The Americium, it was true, had take. a more di rect coarse, but they foituit they got on too fast: 'tis 11;41 Court would take a more effective came by eating en treaty or stipulation, Mete their •Stere could be protected from the recurs teas et such lanes As that batiste thited, Uri usinsited by attic- ofsaeh dire and andaciona cruelti et the some time the gravest delibe;ration was die most beceilniiiit tons isiewar of So 'high meritime aseendiacy. lie thoiheltithat Governmeni woulli he bottle ottt by the Legislature in any strong smd elfe - Clive ,Memissea flier might choose to adapt be the doing away of then Inatfying and cruel outrages. He thonght that treating with SP*Vis cm the rawer had too much of mere compliment ts• that Item* Which bed lost its isifloewee and authority George. Colsoies. The - rest hindrance in the subjea,l4l in the reloctince of ibeVritish Go,Serunient foie. Iwo ledge ihit iodependence of the South A m ericas Colonies. That eastijsr.l..hareev..r, stood for debate this eveoisge4neLhkume#llßol autieipate it lir iterx Nether resaisehat -' " - • ' Mr. Cl/Iffiest gave it at his opinion. that.tVpg , Spanish Goveniment could not control their o ii nits. it would Wen become the duty of the Botiab Government to supply 'the for& aid authority Hl' ccssary for that ptirpose; , . , ~ . ..0•.• . Mr. V. Buxton thought that country II , m.be good the loarinewered by the Colistu c i:lrfolle referred to in eitelentilig the orders - of the Goverii ment. ~.4 , Mr. cA11*,44 1 Wired the priatiag of die Peti tion. with a view to giving publicity to Wyss. at the same time soggested the propriety of telling a Similar coarse with the dispatch to . the Curt uf, Spain and the answer - teit;' The Maruis of LONGO/MORAY intimated that there woul i be some flifpci‘ltj on Vie ',score of official delicacy. • Mr. BRIGHT hoped that British ships sailing in the Indian teas would receive *Mae land df Waval•protec. tion, which he . conceived ought A to be occasionally extended to ships Pet4ii ii or 111111IiiRIBY Power. Sir G. COcisatneS 'gem bid asmarance that the Admiralty would stoke. Mire' tOprovide "protection safficient for fisisieff utterefientbleW, bat tap' all ie ednnts they mad Verreifi friasi . ftiteediogAbe pro tertiOn to inerehantizied of "Otter milled& The Petition etas ordered to be printed. CANADA $ll.l O . Mr. Brute Pieselited i' Petition from various parties iiitritSiegs in support of the Canada Bill. ' Mr. BRIGHT said, if be were to speak to the end of time he could not put in a strOoger light than it had been placed in by the Hon. sod Learned Member ms the floor (Sir J. Rekieliintrp.l. l the wicket:hien : or introducing it so late' a period of the Session, and in te ebsance of those Hon. and Learned Qpritleineis Uho were known to be most comp eteat to the discussion of questions of this nature, involving the most impoTtent priaci pleesf law, i Measure like flieptsebt, iposirig of the liberty rod Prorkrty al Rcpt, a Ipdy of people' frithouetbeir hiving en opportunity of ex pretaiug their opinions on the subject. He laid it disposed of the liberty and property If 'Ogle per Mai, because it altered the whole frame or their political couptitutien, end tperehy ritsicteied the poisesSion of them precarious.. The Bill would come on for diminution *gala that night, or the night after. Whenever it did come on - be should be ready to prose,' with all his might, iu the name of those who were absent, and hed -- no representi. tires or agents to defend their interests, agaiost the iniquity of so monstrous a proceeding. Mr. 11,14111R4ATT was understood to say, that he had the consent of a greet many persons who were intimately connected with Canuds, - to declare their opinion, that the passing of the Dill would have the most injurious effects ou the interests of the Colony. Sir F. Buenwei said, es ter as he was able to jedge of the meosure itself, it appeared to be ex tremely beneficial and well founded. But his ob ject in rising at that time was not so much to enter into the merits of the Bill, as to protest against the Use of such strong expressions as had been throws: out by the Honourable Member for Bristol, as if it were really the intention of Government to propose a measure of direct injustice and tyranny to the Colonies. a supposition which to him ap peered to have DO foundation iu reason or in jus. tice.--(Hear.) Mr. Batons admitted that his expressions might have been rather strong ; but he bad applied them not to the measure itself, but to the pressing it for ward without consulting the feelings or opinions of those who were mainly interested in it: and he begged leave, to say, that what he felt •strongly he should always express strongly. as the Hooooteble Baronet himself was in the practice of doing. Sir F. BUR/11MT arid ha had not meant any per- I;sonsi offence to the Hon. Member, but merely to comment on expressions which seemed. to • bias wholly uncalled for. ,5.9.11.,. Wltnov said the Hon. Baronet was per fectly warranted in the animadversions he bad' poni ed upon the expressions which the Hon. Member bad most unjustifiably applied to the conduct of Government in bringing forward the measure in question. The state of the two provinces was such with respect to their revenues, and the 'differences between them as to their appropriation, as to call fur 'lotus remedial measure, and that which had been proposed was considere d: the best adapted to the purpose of healing the disorders it was meant to remedy. Mr. BILIGHT said he had already explained that he had applied himself not to the merits of the Bill, but to attempt to pass it without the concur rence of, without even consulting those persons who were immediately affected by it. Mr. Wttmor was understood to say. that it was founded on the application of the Legislature of the Colonies t bewail vt.s. Mr. Hula said, there was nothing in the Petition or Report of the Canadian Legislature from which their desire that the two provinces should be united could be inferred; He did not think the intro duction Of the frill it titis period of the Session watt at rill to be jnitilifds * " LAI i 4 wilco Geo tle . mea were. pr g- r. •, rveniog in , the Meesschuse . , not - Jrpose likening the present measure to it, bet as being the only case, previous Ste the present, of any interfe rence of the British Parliament with the iiiteroal constitution of any Colonial . Legislature, even of the emalleet colony, without consulting the opiaiona of the colonists. He did not wish the people of Canids, if they did him the bounce to attend to any thing that fell frOm him, to mulenitapd him es meaning to com p are the present Bill with that which was passed in order to punish the flOple of Massachusetts, in say other view than that which he had now explained. It was said that heated and impassioned language hid been used. •He Pike ,the, We. Member for Bristol. hiffappliett suh language, not to tbe Bill itself, but to the ,mode of preemies it forward, and with ell•deference to the•Hen.itUeMet (Sir F. Bolden), foe whose opinions he enterteitted the highest re opeet, he should still continue to apply _the same epAthets to,tfte site to peas such . e JAM without cnoialting.tboie Thome interests i 4 . mete. rislly affected, and whom it'tberefore chief! tab i evened. He had started abstract prin t t ebti the occasion ; but be had said, and now re eated, that one of the pealed moral chair of.the people eta diitant celepy on . the parent state, was to be consulted en any . tiestiou affecting their liberty, property, and political condition. It ha bead said that this Billridireciiii - rtitt - iii alteration of the constitution of the taria4gs, because it did not take swayatiy privilege which any individual in those provinces patented ; bet this was the6rst time that any man had ever ventered to ea that an incur poratitig.niiinnif lilt distinct Le isisteres was got d i , an shindig's s of . ,ili t i t pohtical coo Ain eCtlie coup. tries kens , were so united. For his part, he was • ly averse to the imposition, even of liberty; upon any people egtiost its *ill. The Ater ot 1791, by which the exist ing coostitutipn was established, bed been re ferred' to in justi6estion of this interference Of Parliament, without reference to or eon. suiting with the people of Canada. But what was the history of that Act? Prom the eiteguest of Ceriailti in 17G to the ,passing of tbet Let, the government of hot i ls provinces. was as absolute monarchy. It was then proposed to substitute a legislative constitution for an arbitrary govern lient ; add yet it *as thought necessary to consult * Viiiifilnk Intl Withes of the iohisbitants re -10140og-4410,1 Si schiAgt; and accordingly notice was go yen in 1789, two years before the passing •et 'the Aefi •It !.stider that they might know whit it, was ill"; wee intended, and have sulE- Cleat time' to etprets their asseut or dissent from the proposed Immure. Bat the prevent Parlia ment, on the contrary, without any notice to the previoces at all, was called oo to adopt a measure effecting a ;mat change in the government of two Colonief Oat:}! htfieg a distinct Legislature of its Own. Notwithstanding the boldness with which this measure bad been takeouts, sod the apparent determinatieo to carry it through, he did and would to the hest Proteet sseinst it on the part of the people et - the whole' oT the • British Colonies; and he did maintain their right to be heard before any measure**. idepted effecting a total change in their politieat condition. A month ago he had stated that his objections to the measure were in surmountable, and yet on the fatmer night the supporter, of it had expressed their surprise at his opposing it. Mr. W. Stern; said, he should vote fur the printing of this Petition, even in the cite, 9f the Bill standing over to next year, is order that the people of Canada might learn alto were the supporters of the measure in this country. He would not go into the discussion of the Bill itself, because he conceived it disorderly so to do, until it was regu larly before the House. Mr. E&uce said, that feeling as he did deeply interested in the Colonies, and wishing this Bill net to go to them under the impressio of preju-• dice excited against it, he would recommend to the Noble Lord near him (Lord Londonderry) to e on . eider whether it would not be better to divide the Bill, for the purpose of passing now that part which related to the revenues and the arbitration between the province., end deferring that which • related directly to the union of the Legislatutea. ‘..,.. •, . Sir J . sneccitirosit said, he could not but ap prove of the recommendation of his Hon. Friend, Which was a' renewal ' of the amendment proposed by liiinellfen Thursday lust. Some explication here took place in a low con isertational tone across the table, between Mr. • Ittrace' and Sir J. MaCeletose, of some mutual miscouceptiont of previous conversation between them on the subject of the opposition to the Bill. Mr. Daelsoe said a few words which we could not collect.. ' Lord Loooottneter thought, on the whole, it would be better to peas over an imperfect measure 'than to carry forward any Bill of this kind under such a strong opposition as most send it to Canada with a character bot st all eatetileted to conciliate OR provinces in its Toiour. He thought, under the pemept circtioptinicesof the case, the brat course for Oovernment to pursue was to accede to the sug gestion of the Hon. Member for Coventry. The vision of the provinces would then far m the subject on sepate Bill, which might be advanced to such 4 itiigq sa to reudet it fully intelligible, end printed re.thet fara d and the, the further proCeeding might eland over to next Session. Mr. Wttwot defended the condoet of Govern ment in bringing forward the measure. Sir F. Buanarx regretted the postponement of a measure which appeared to him likely to prove squally beneeelal to the Colonies end to this errantry. fi e consoled himself, however. with the hope that no opposition could be given to it in the next Session by those who on this occasion had not objected to the principle of the Bill itself, bet from the most righteous motives, no doubt (thought as ii appeared to him. from . 'tighteoastiess over-much. otj ▪ Orstrict'principle Of the rieik tb, grid:pig to 'T • ..•, tlth messire shibi- they gual_sud,OuDsi in• surprise/ jot jiis Ho. lor.liVeslotOdse (Sir feelings iikaupport of :he trouble te attend roadissg.to cauvioce by ' it, from what he call. shottki ant feel himself 4, by arrangement from here. after proteettug, if he thought proper, against the right and= of that House to alter the Coasti. lotion of a, end agaiesethe measure itself, if it oppeered to him to be objectionable. The Petition was then ordered to be printed. Sir F. BUJ:ITT. preetented a Petition from Mr. Henry Hunt, llchester gaol, against the Prison Laws Consolidation Bill. Ordered to lie upon the table. Mr. HUMS postponed to Thursday next (to. morrow) the Resolutioas of which he had given no. timin explanation of the Sinking Fund. REPUBLIC OF COLOMBIA. Mr. LESSARD, is rising to bring forward the Wei,' of which he had sires notice, said, the ob ject which he.ehiefly bad in view was to bring be fore the House the question of Colombian Inde pendence. For that purpose he thought it neces very that the House should be informed whether pit'eppliciition had been made to the Govern. tst of this country by any person on be. half of the Colombian Government, relative to the recognition of its independence; and what was the nature of the answer given to such application ? He disclaimed any inten tion to interrupt any negociation now carrying on. or to expose any correspondence which it might be desirable to be kept secret. lie would not go into the history of the long war which had termi nated in the independence of Colombia. It was *ell known to the House that Spain, so long the epprensor of twenty-five millions of people iu South America, was now completely expelled from that part of the world, an event which most rejoice every person who had any regard for the liberty of his fellow men. Columbia was the first of those States to establish its independence, and to adopt • free counitutioo, and in doing so to prove to the world how fully deserving it was of the bless ing of liberty. There was but one fort in the whole territory of Colombia that was still occupied by wSpenish force, which might have been long use reduced, but for the sake of huma nity, and to avoid an unnecessary effusion of human blood, it had been left for a future opportuuity, which had probably ere this occurred, of subjecting it M a less expense of lives and treasure. The Go.. negligent and Legislature of the Republic had long been completely organised, and in full and perfect eXercise of its functions, and was therefore entitled to recognition ; and so long as this country delayed to acknowledge it, w long was it guilty of injustice toward' that State. The recognitioa of a Govern ment under such circumstances was not to be con founded with assistauce and support to Colonies in a state of rebellion; auy disinclination, therefore, to disoblige the Government of Spain ought not to operate as an abjection iu this case. He regretted that On this occasion America should have taken the lead of this couutry in a course of policy that was so coupnial witbefery principle and feeling a( gib . Englishman. The Government of this country hod in fact virtually acknowledged the independence of the South American States, in the regulations 'which had been adopted respecting their Commerce with this country. Spain, also, had virtually Imiknowledged them, by various treaties and conventions- entered into with the several Govern. heists established in different Provinces. The ifisirts of Smith America had a peculiar claim upon this country for the recognition of their in ' dependence, from the attempts of our Government so tar beck as the year 1797, by offer of insistence and other means, to induce them to throw off the yoke of Spain, which first gave rise to those strug. glen which have terminated is their emancipation from the trammels of that Government. He did not inteud to urge the consideration of those motives of interest or policy which might have induced our Government to acknewletlge the Colombian Republic; but it must be in the recollection of the House that the Government of Colombia had pub. lished a paper. stating, that those tuitions which re fused to acknowledge the independence of that Slate should not participate iu the benefit of its commerce. Those who had witnessed the pies. endings at the dinner given the other day to 11. Zee., the Colombian Agent, must be convinced of the deep interest which the mercantile world felt iis this question. He thought it requisite that the 'louse should be put in possession of the menus of F forming a judgment on this important subject, or ' which it would be the duty of the Government speedily to form some decision. He, therefore, con cluded by moving—" That en humble Ad dress be presented to hie Majesty, praying that be will be graciously pleased to direct to be laid before the House Copies of any Correa ' poadence which may have taken place between M. Zea. or any other Agent or Minister on the part of the Republic of Colombia and hie Majesty's Aims Mligir at Perin, or his Majesty's Secretary of ftr Foreign Affairs, respecting the right of slop. Colombian Government to be recognised by the Government of this country." The Marquis of LOSDONDIRRY said he must confess the Hon. Member had gone more at length lobo this subject than he bad expected; for he cer tainly did expect from his opening that it was his intention merely to state the general grounds on *bid) he wished to call for the infornastiou to which re'had adverted. and on that being refused, to pro. pose the course of conduct which he thought advisable that Parliament should recommend to his Majesty's Government to pursue; and he still thought that this last ensuld have been wore consistent with parliamentary practice than to eater into dismission asp the general policy of the question • and he apprehended that the ino. ' now i o the hands of the Chair was not adapted to enable the House to fors any decision se the general question. His Majesty's Ministers were not at present free to enter folly into the question. as ciiieuesiose were at this moment pending between the Cqutt of Spent and his Majesty's Cieveruesesits tertitillitiois of think the could not auticipate. As to the object of the Measurable Member's ! 1 r... - from some one or other a the ports ih thetoinnies. this time actually kept the berforla eilpj, Pared , iniheresgut state oratio . dalerrr li role be ehtiad,k--1113 ,opposed a : It had occurred more than once that British Cap. so 'aloe cod foe 'Wilda di sat , ...poor nit ft, *6l6oooce of Illtiferis 't 4 Sys sly; addicted to be 0 tams, zealous i n th e di sc h a r ge o f their dotylloat , li • -.. .. ,Att_, •L, the 1 the Canadair; of would find A.mviez .it _iller. .. posoeyeron of ships &rimed in the cohimon vitletidhl , - , 4 : t Pi - Tel'rs lu"' . ie r eti- he might " tiihieftds to P us i lhe 19°6 in -•• to i ll " - ISIEVIAL expressed his ti 4r LL 41 of the rights of other flags, and after belting ellikeleit: )ti bbl that *tent* , lug ;v theY contiii!e the exliit duties teethe giment, to, rat* rtillod the Member sfc li i.. a conderonstioridn appeal to Orel:OW*oa trell‘ its p "1. ... " t -. • gbe:dkrellaci,lieeis tolulth provide foe thei :r tihrtribiattoo tottween tiii two . burdetitrlfitli bis strong fee was found that the law would not bear Them il l . -..,_ -iiid e lleckhardness in the stem . ; takin - tile prov i nces. .l i e regretted that the Bill should have the asessore) bad not taken th what they had d o ne. There was one gentleman dodmlty, and that the Government oughttei have encountered so g)sl . 4 l _ 9 s i poojtjaa where le had bees, .the.deb s te Au . the asco ,d ma di Itimbad.bese Mot. Wilke umesme : ef so Ada .for a: •pinaerled with .prolirptt aid Sitatshary Tereeto put s lid lis exe . et that none would bar beak offered. gessusent these Who opposed it s Siraiiial. 'Alp anti slave cargo, which he had'first. lin end to such unwarrantable aggressions . I Sit Jifhliaiii4nirosh mid; he bid 6o a former larovermuch righteousness. seized•oh at tchiht of the same ship having Mopped Sir J. MAcILINTOSO thought that the honour of. evening in the discussion on the Bill, ref -:::.:Mr. Bailout said, be shotth end phluderest the • -- •• • " Ilbe Brinith4liSt;.B4 - isiiipowerpa l . oo th e sea . , r "• n l!lsh 'not fo e . asaeuseits Bill, .r wpm, o f prec l u d e d , he by the _ arm . . the -'-~ - - r - s: -- .. ~ "Ott.. 41 . 0060i4essti the groancis on which he supported it. slyedocuolnt which he seemed to require had been Mill* in the public newspapers. The Hou.e, !herd*, would see that it could not agree to the Otottio unless it was iotended that it should 101 l the ground of some ulteriot proceeding. He could not td lobo the questioo until the -Note of the discussions-eolith were ost sated was more fdlly determined. The peinelples of prahtical wisdom proved the Utility of avoiding such a course. Parliament bliss wisdom woultinK enter into the discussion of Ouch • question with out knowing to what it might ulumately ilead and it had sever been the practice to call tern•itte Executive Government to furnish infbrisistioa Ott subjects under discussion which hid sot arrived al that stage when they assumed • ilecisine fdtni From the distance of the country. from the p er nets and imperfect nature of informatioo. ead.froso the extent of the natter to be discussed, it must be evident that the circumstances of the case 'ere such as must render imperfect any information day could at present he given, towards ramblings the Hon. Member to.point out ally course that could be adopted with a probability of hotting to ear ultimate good result. The Honourable Member had alluded to the Treaties between the •Govern. ment of the United States and what wes called the Independent Goverument of Colombia ; bat he (the Marquis of Londonderry) must protest against the doctrine, that the conduct of any particular (internment *es to be a role ?or the guidance of this country io the course it was to pursue towards other nations. He trusted that this country never would run a race "4.Wi other Powers in such proceedings es they might think it their own interest to adopt. Tha facts. of All case, and the general policy so long pursued •hy the Government of 'skis country, he hoped enil4 justify the House in giving - his. hlejesty's ,Ministers credit for having acted as they considered best for the interests of the country, and most ram sistent with their duty. And notwithmading ail the difficulties attending this cam, he mistral the - Honse would see that throughout the course of a long experience they had endeavoured to regulate the intercourse of this country with Spain ott principles of good faith, and on grounds of like. rality. And if Spain had forgotten what she owed to England io a time of difficulty, Emerald would best consult her own character and dignity, by act ing with a grammua forgetfulness of past transactions, and observing a proper cousideration of delicacy in lwr conduct towurds Spain under similar circumstances. He trusted as little would be found in their coo. duct towards the South American Provinces to justify any doubt as to the desire of his Majesty's Government to act towards them on ptinciples of liberality. as far as was consistent with that strict neutrality which the House would set it bed. all along obeessed during the war of Spain with , these Provinces. They had rectignised their blockades, they had recognised their Ana, the; had recognised their aimed vesicle ; on the ground that those things were consistent with the rights of a .pcople to administer their own affairs.. With respect to the iutercourse with these coun tries, he thought nothing was wanting except to form a diploinetic connexion by mutually sending persons to enter into all discussions relethe interests of the Goveutruents no both sides. For his own part, be bad never refused. on the applies. tiou of soy persona deputed by those Goverment, to this country, to receive them, and confer with. them, though he had refused to recognise then. in any official capacity. Every communication, however, tending to promote the advantage of either nation win always received. Their vessels had been admitted to a fair intercourse with this mildly,. and permitted to import their goods directly into our ports. Crider all circumstances, this Gores.- meat had shown no desire to prejudice their interests,. but on the contrary to cultivate a good undershot/. ing with them. The iotercourse between us sad] them bad been put on a footing of perfect recipro city. and there ouly remained the question as to the adoption of formal diplomatic arrange. menus. The Honourable Member was not sof ficiently acquainted with the facts of what war parsing with Spain respecting those Provioces, iP form a mood judgment of that question. The House should know what Spain and the Colosies were doing at the moment, and also what was doing with the other Powers of Europe. before it could come to a decision on the subject. He dont& the House would hardly see any necessity foe an interfe renre of this sort between Isis Majesty's Government and the States in question. The Hon. Member bad much better leave the case in the hands of Govern ment, at least until he was prepared to bring for ward the question in a different shape, and to pro. so p: w on or: oi l e d advice to t o o f be e ol o id a u e c re t which dbyP i al t in which both the interest mad good faith of the surrounded pro Perto r ecommend. with difficulty l s w i l l; a delicacy.sbjet not only country were implicated. tie hoped, therefore, the lion. Member would withdraw his motion. Sir J. MACKINTOSH supported the inGtion, as one which it was quite consistent with the practice even of ',cent time to adopt, for the warpage of leadiiig to an expression of the feeling and opinion of the House on a particular trestle% witboot the inconvenience of terminating with a spe cific measure as to the conduct to be punned by his Majesty's Ministers, or in any way lying up the bandit of the Government in its procecil , ng• relative to the particular subject of the dircitoior. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman proceeded In a strein of his usual eloquence to discuss the dif fereuce between the recognition of independence by a hue ruling Government, and by other Gown meats wholly disconnected with a ucw Power: and to contend that the recognition by this country of the independence of Colombia, and the other South American Provinces, was perfectly cnneietent, under the circumstances of the case, with aloe b e at and snost friendly undenstanding with Spain. This po sition he supported by reference to the conduct of this country in the cases of the successive revolts of the Netherlands and of Portugal against the Go vernment of Spain, in which this country had lecog :need the independence of the revolted Stew, and bee eight to do so consistently with pa cific mid amicable relations with Spain had been recognised at the time by the Spanish Go vernment with which England was then at peace. By the establiiihment of regular diplomatic inter course tas should be able to obtain redtma for any 1