The Sun. — London, England, 1807-08-01 00:00:00

bias could go. Lord' CASTLERE4GI7 said, the Hon. Gentle;; . man had touched on points which would renderit necessai'y tor him to go more at length into tlw sub )ect in debate than be should otherwise have clone. ilk: Lion. fientleman, in the.indepetu comments which he was `vt-ry properly in the habit of making, bOd'ott this occasion glaticcd 'on matleirs, the consi ' deTaljon - which' v/001 not be very tavtittrable to his itiJit Hon. Friends , . Hedenied/that try tht• mere. aecitirnii ot being at Nvor with . Prussia the Goyern rnent yas justified in omitting ..i.owat&eff tile blow ' which SOUtO 1)61O7 Rev,er t;i 4 ria l it , it id t iff er ... iil to fail . upon Prussia. Durin,Y the Whore period in which the Lin Mioisier's had suffered thernSelve•s' to bo wade dop;:s at Paris, in - rtiTeeiatintrt in ‘vhicli all' the - pt nteipies that ow . ..;11t to chnt'adetiser Stares men . weie Ip(fied an d . d rindoned i it was'matter notoriety, 'Neil to • persons out of the Government; that Prusiiia was nominallrat waT whir this- C .ntry (for it . never Was none than a nominal war) t! ie were discuisions of so an t lry a nature, that it WWI pronable:they would involve t how. two POwers . flav , in which Russia also eventually Would partici pate. Under these circumstances, the poliey that slv,nl:l have marked the conduct of a wise British G , Yerriment were obvious : but the very in erse w.'ts d in the cOnduk - oftbe late Gtivernment.' % In.,tc aci ui being : prepared to aet to the best, advantair,e • uluni the opportunity about to be afforded, the line MinisteiS suffered thernselve's to be*(enjoled'fOrra. • Inlig unit, after the Cotninenc•ernent of-bostiie'pro , ciwdittgi behkeen • FrAncc and tin w otie ul''thk intlliant xras .-eleeted to do liopour to • the late ; when 'poiver of Plats an. Was'about •to be c.l' usbed,' after SO tnatiy either : PoWers had been e'rush,td befifreit, no. rneanS avert 0f T( . .1/0 the iinpendin fate. Plea Avto held' then - is:Ayes jut;til'i-cl m gtv i t y, ho aid - , accused 'him and his Mg - Arlen* aid . to6 Pate.' lie 'had also tontntr:. that. ittls _ ira, at the Batas: or the formation 'of 'tiHs Treaty 'Of Subsidy r was hot EU unifuiportailtl by "sortie. In the broil'.: of Eylan, .1.'r. , .., - ;ee felt' herself en piged with an elleinV 60 Clart:r•Lni iron any she had bithert i etlen -ntere tip?! Corpi, under Gernial lAN ;lan Yigorously engaged, and. tneerially c;witrii)tited to th, , issue of tae d,iv. When t: o e Tic. , 11 y the Puts-, 8 au force, 'iatindinb• 1 in 'Silesia; the new' I(iy,e;' waiting . for r) th'e anus sortie :tittle hefore dis patched from this Country, and 'the ten thottsand ~ tneti which wore to aelt at Stralmnd, aniounted to no le-s than Do,oon men. ''lons; h' , lr., , :evr redueet4' the tz, - l oihtary •,v er of Priassia ail'orded yet a gr, <it renni,int, witieh it was highly politi&in uS: to pi l i t nat h ;Ind uphold. t Withrespk:tet to 'die inilitary aid top n - this CtiuntTy, the late 'Ministers .phould nave taken earonot to %infer such ail expeCia tiOn. to he held out oefUrined;but Lord Hutchinson Aimed that eiepeetationt'u strongly, that unless the present.ll , linisters•• were - disposed to corntnit whit Wont - Tie not hi hg Aort of a breaelyof they' • cguld- not/lativid . sendint,..!, the • aid so - expeeted.- ! -- When he and his colleagues carne' into (Alice, hoWever, they found no ifittans winiteVis'of CO` 11-; • veying that It was whimsical onongh that ' While the ar,l expeEted by tear , King,rif Sweden was looked for entirely in cavalry, and - the e xi:choke' Of , • the - British, cavalry rendered, it naturally d6ar.ihle 'vibere_eaValry conld - 0, there' was tiot a: si ogle' at rangement to transp9rt that cavaley., - There was' but inr'e cavalry transport 'engaged, as it wore, for a curiosity, or it ord , r th.qe rno del Ufa cavalry trmisport in Ihe service. The first dis patch that had betit received by the .present'Minis'. ters'expresal . 4 trreatdisappointinent that the cavalry hall not (acritrA l. ;: and yet; any person who' knew the difficulty ot providlopeaValry transports, ,where ten' tons were neceary tOr`eitch horse,'be . sides the oaten and trottble'of fining up;lntpit be sensible, that unless a ;Ali:ply had leltd!!y pr . .deeessor s , the pit..se.in :Nlinistecs could not, henti ..olf the aid soon r. It was in fat equally consistent with econn,ny; ati ii tv, 5 1: 1 1111 $01,111 . S to ke e p' . a cinpetent supply of Tranitipatt3 :41Qat , (for such Rl'Vit:cA as tell: exi;ency of . 'alLtini •i , tittit..l easily ritLike it' app,!ar, that the total' dischaOge of •Transpoi•ts, ex&l)t those necessary for 'ikas". far from teing' a saving of 40,0001. a tnentV'MotiveS of economy might be the reason . of ha t% Ildgapply of ',transports. The total dkrnaiitho'g . uf thur depittmentabay'have been con , trived to fait in witir the Plan of Vinnice of We Noble lord Opposite (1.,0:'d 11. 'Pot'ty)," :procee6d^ tbrougtiont call fillacidos data, Whi z ' 'boo t upon '- I , iujiiosition of a - COO cinuel War Cx'tltitclittue of 32;4)00;0001, when the War expgnitinirc lVd:; in fat% in 'n6 one'year 'I his wit. 1:1 economy, leading evidently io great and n t diittnit prothge n'em, accompanied with much genclal'iniscihief. An order had been :cant by the late Government to the nansport-office, to pay off all 'the"Tran'vort!, then engageti; Thiy rirdthiced represet,t:ition,Of th'c ,expense that would at tool nilking:gtitictall the con- tratt3, to the expinulon 'ot the.terne.i of erigac., - itent,,: when in 'a fc. v itlys it would' be neceskiry•to up . Othertra wiports tbr the public service. `.l.'ho • date of &snit:is:ll came front the Treasttry, the' the l'ranspori-utlit:e . pi opei'ly B.V under the Scx: .tietarY'' for the \Var Department.'" The Right li-Oli;:Secre 'tary (Mr. Was therefore itottOblanie for • the order,' w th:_i'rreas . nry w pro bablY intei.kd (0 promote the objN.I.IVol the grand • plait in . :finance' to had ,the alluded. The '• order was c:'x;.-ciltc : c so felt' as 40 (li3Lni•is qianspork but (itT,:e neces , ,in.y tt) the 4',Ononuoi , .!ation between Great Britain abet .1( - clatid, 'and C.6:111.....eihrad ierhu The sx . ;ing made tltd not anionot 4a,0001. but only to 'Wool a month ; and after the tit. intitY of trans- . port tonnage scot abroad alit 160,,,t a i1 t cif the Right Hon. Gentleman, oti: ; .:Tht,to have been ti 'mortars NI ITT than a die o,lnttion:The late Government ha] tec:ei‘ed tio,ooo'tons of transports i'rorn its predeeet ant there must' have been so a ittoiea :)(4,00tt men, which hod been brought 'frOm the Confii,ent 171'i a very sitert time before, If 'lati.t'Vipstertr did' hot -Mean • to •al Ant.l6n itll cotineition With tlie'C'obtinent, they (Atilt to have h'et'llp a Stittichint,supply of totny;tt :lad that they did' not keep np ~ ecit a Fa: y[4, : t ai' a proof that they did merit, "P CoolliOental 'eotilicaions altogether. Then a:4 to the qut . :. , 1i01),, why the present Ek.pedition was'not di-tpatcht.lo, in:. May; rather than in 'July ? the' as, t h e ( ,„,a lll ., tilers'. state Of Which peesent Nbuistera found themselv , ; 4 on entering into office, ExpLA • ar blt... Ex, *llion., rendered an eorlier disimich The e rst clone;clone;wa . S 'to give orders' to pieeare tratqoas; ,fitat troin the' adive. e state 'or our tetrie,,, they geuldniat be shorie‘'eolleded, and thus it ' Irii been. 'thiptittAle to - sebd to the 'King' of.. etAk:e(ll the aid of cavalry which we %veto bound to aff;.,rd. With respe6l 10 the question , of the , Honourable eGentlematre - • smelt r Imi-ober of trpops ',were now embarked in a fertrng - h(e why, were they not embarked . before ? the aliswet• wa., a., wise Go .vernment alWayslial its artatigeinents miide ill such anfaoner,l- that it, could carry • into cited itsndli , hiry'enterpri in so short a time, that tho,e who uff , r, .06 objeds of them would only hear of the' tireparatien 'wlll-;n , they- felt the bioVy. • 'tut if - no pretarations Were left, our military s'fretigth cotild &Ay eihililted in' inert and inatetive state tipon. our own . sll6rdB; - tilt the deficiency shOuld have ,been suptdiede If the' 'reparation s had: been made e the InilifOrrenergy" would be exeried - without delay. He Mit'Vlitt had, been done ,now would prove. a 1e , 60n to evertv fdrure Government---a lesson not.. to post !welt'. .-prtlY,lllCloll . till the rnoeient was'conie, for strikm! , the blow. It' the neces:;ary preparadens had beeo 7 left .by the late. Ministers,' the •exertion might ulliieejleertlinade tin earlierperio4, when it Might have contiibutedlo waid'orr what . had hap, 14tssii.t had expetted oar eo'.operatitin, and if the lat e GoVero Melt did nbt give that aid, it was owing. to ea false ectinomvi , for t he objed.of a trifling savioge ,- crippled the: Meres of the CoontrY,. at the mot-Beet:when as:• most essential to eiert them.- -;-:Eveu it in a single man ii;:d been - Sent frorn this Country, it would have preiented France from drajo.: nut. elily all' her theiplined troops, but ,ber'Con.: scripts to swell:her twee oil the _Vistula. 'To have eenibiteetHpreearatiobs for any considerable einharbition, Wqrdld have • obliged - Botiapaite, to letve et • least fitly tlionOnd -mer% ill:. France of what since :appeared: on the Vistula. r It ‘'vas. the . Attyeilefee:i tit o'tr insulated and central positivity, that it itEld'preirartiti4ris fer an.'Expedition ill ornearthe Downs, feadt to:nrove to einy . quarter' that May be thought prinier; France would be wider ! the net'etiity•of.skeepitg protecting force in Hot.; landju:the Ne'tkiE IWeds, at thedogr4 - and at' Bfe.st,• at the saiiie thue, l . from . the impossibility taining.•Which • of . 010.4! points was to be etNebed: It . Wasein: this respe I that this Colltit es. stniaily'Naval e could bring its Alilltary Paver to be of great weight - against France. J. he. late • M in isterS' came into the: media :of making great exertions; but they parted With tho,e means apparently, lOrnoqititer purpose but that of'registering tneirabandenment of the continent. Whether the [Little of Eylan awake tatted them to•a'sense - of their crinetial ornissioo, he could not say j. or whether they - hegiin to bo fearful of falling into disgrace with the whole Cenn try, for having pristiloried , their aid so long ; • hat he did find some traces io•his - office that indicatitd it dis 'position'to'ronse from the guilty lethargy-: but no. thing. like an active. step had been taken to liaceour those' Who expeded our aid, • -Arf: 11 Th D 11.1111 the'Noble - Lerd on his prudence in reserving these extensive neei dons for an orleaion wren 'they were only Mei:ten tally infrOdneed, and when no, speeitie answer cee;il. I be made to them. He could excuse the warmth withiehich the Right Ron. Gentlenian 11 , 0 laurtiiiedeirut oil one of those topics of accusation ; bin • the Noble Lard i'.pAfarouglit forth grand chnuationL-had ;Iseined fads - totally unproved, and had made statements wholly 'without fo il o&ii ion, tor . : the purpose of censuring - the general oOnduct of the War by the late AdministratiOn; : ' He..had 'prudently li.eborne prodUcing these general charges: until bear the Close of the. Session, then incidentally '.when no ,reply could be given to them, haviog rymitted to bring for Ward any 'allegatiOns' during four inirrhtlis that he had been ita power.' As fai . as he could , n6e would diAtinNly go over the stittements of the Noble Lord. His first general enargeagaiust ‘ 1 late Ministers was oflsnpinoiess anthibmidoinneei the Continent._ Whether en army ought have been' sent at all to the Continent; i.vhetherlt ought to have 7 been sent to oin; place or to another-these' were grand questions of policy be decided immedi ately, or obliquely. the•Gentletuetv oppti4ite hat a mind to arraigo the. condnel of the late Ministration on this , subjett, in Grid's' renue them appoint a day fOr that purpose. ; The , qees.e . don; was, whether it - would' n'or have' been fir an ifistdar Power, to eattack' considerable arniies on. the Continent, wbeli the; very' next Minuni. hero\vn 'defence Might re:ifaire rite presence :at, horile• of every 'Soldier wriOnr'rilie ceeld"; ? VV:hen 'he said not nv 2 :4 to siS far 'as Ito assert . , that rio'oaeasions:otild nion arise, in \s hitch Such' co'.4)peratiOn Ytrc ettr . Vtit"! word() be advisable'. So with veord to SCosidies, were we to' be Merely the great %Wink -of -Europe', - on which the different .11\latioes' "'Shahid 'be: tort- poi.vered to draw in defeeee of their own ex istatic6 ?'• Was that' a good habit to give them ?-- 'Was not the result likely to he that they would make' no spontaneous exertions:" 'But in *Mg; these e qUestions, did he say that stibSidies-onght nevertO be graded? These'were e i tieSt ions of -national bit; Tottatlev,' not - to be deei,kd tipop-by , o 6,a,rmatorf speeph,-bot to the diseassion of whreit the 'HOtise onght 'to come:W . l:th 'a fullknOwledge of all the 'el r tirustane. of the ea4i.'!'Thd Noble "bird that the hint AdroiniStration ought to havesulriidizei acid sent troops to the.ebininent. lie, on th s i other - hand, - asserted, that the'y,onght to haved6ne neither t he"'One - nor the'rither ritate: than they did do-. they into bilide;the'st?ltson 'was improper for s6tidiitg . out•trOops,autr when theproptr se,e;ts caiee, wes 'Snob aid oet of the question - ? ..Could it he . . hoped, - that Wltcti the inii, , ;hey - Powers in Europe, for . Otne time' poised in air, had takers 'their pitch and dire Lion, any , nnlitary effort Made bythis Country could ;i'ail ? - the.-the Continental'PowerS called for' . . our assistance, Might be easily supposed ;"-'but sViten the' Noble LordiSserted that we 'had gin assur. antes of assistance; and partieniarly - Of cavalry, fie could! say' was,.that ho did not know ihat,huch 261itrauceR had been given,'ncid t hat hedid nqt believe . that they held been giVen. Tins fait w thcfn't wn,doWit fell:the Orenifses on Which' the Noble • Lord !argued; '• For (said the'Neble Lord), you Made ritipreparat tons r. fo send:assistance." Very true ; be catise no asii s i ae ee .But the Noble Lerd stirpui. : ;e,l • why no fi how Of assistance had been te.f!e. He would NOW e• EOM; net -fOrn ecotionliCal ttivtit , (any more than the discharge - of transports, the Noblo Lad had so' fallaCiooy statettarose from cohnhunieatltin kt.ith the Clnti* TO, bi}t from the Cbnsi(ieration, that !)•1 the; itate f Etifokat that k y • tin:, it NyiFi t tot ...‘ i 0110 e a ~.lew,', as hksttell 1 il , ,•inotistration . the ' , iould , ifie put natili ifieir , guard,'" and might 66 a I•M`'itq'eat oul.6jecis, Otherm,..ise attainable. WLeit the Noble Lord' talked. ''Of sending 25 ,ouo men - to the armies of Rds - i l . ,a end Prussia; • the' t htrrg v. , ii s — kriititlift, 7 lll 'a . t - ii W r a"i . f.iii- necesSary tO atisvN4 hirni.. - ..With i egard, to the army, . it had grown in the bands b . t . his ...Majesty s !ate (liovertityht, who li3tl 101 tilt rt..;;ular force 3000, :.n4l Cite .gc,n,-,Tii l orco t26,o'nn t - ilit,','*t . ro:tVi.t..l . -:tlia'n' whit th ey teecivo it from illeir.yretic..CesAbrS, -Stilih; by Cho accounts on, the t•Alilti; ikaW• :the increase of • the army,-Itom 'March, 1-896 , , lb March, itid7. The' late Adminstration . had buen'iilsO atf:teied'otitheir condi:it'll . : with r'egArd to N'.eno, Ayres. The original .. Expedition to`that place; alone, certaittly :not Under the orders or. the Get4lettion opposite,.' was under= taken by an. QUi,:cr of their ',o.)poitittnent, and \Oldie behaviour had -,LN.,.. 1)..-...!1 . ittlitiiti: bj'iheii ll dl9)ll!;.• , . dation,' for it., dt•, been Lam& ~!:.illy by 1'.00411 ,4 , Martial of a ‘,; , ~ rt..' i:-; tiiil'oc,.', he hz , a1;144 - 14 re` 4 " Witrd,• When itch !Usti(( ti:-. cet: , 4tre•of , that' Ctii.trt Martial, and. ins tno('i;eiy ot ;iviirbeeecling;' - beenai.i. pointed-to di tot her cOtb thand,-- , A MOst .in isehietiouS ,tei), and one trite ht ti ith coiLsetidefices highly dan gerous to the Cwitirr. !-• li'v this sh..p, however, the 1: , ..,th:t., Lerd•and lii.seolleagnc,;tcCOgiliZed add adopt dect the attack On- li:It:ii0S• Ayres, and noyit'he had the Modesty (tOr; he woul‘l.noil call it by its ,proper ' name) to• accuse the late AckuinistratiOn Of doing 1113 v-which v.•!...a;: had been dodo %vithout their eon• trol L a neceo,at y. - The Navy find been 41.. creased I d,uon 'Mil t)y the late .Administration. As to the transpurts, the Noble Lord said, that. he (Mr: Windham) had made ii magnificent statement of the, maiiy thoLigauti tons et . ' traw . iports taken up 'by the hite .P.kciniiniltez,tioit. • Ail Ills insguificeuce Wa, this tam, th u whi'.e irisM:tiusty's lit;e , Ministers parted with tno class nfitrairs - perts, the three mouths for they !yid n 4.) Mtmediate Use, and which wo; - e cataly , to be •got if tivt-titt. l / 4 1•, they had takten p • u as eiii:::,; . y proctire'of%, coppered and ,neuthed whicAl• vivre riot to be obtainc'cl- in a hurry, -and in which a i , ndden-detnand i arotteti. 1 - I,great istlynco of prke. this Last destriptiOn, they ielf a g'reater numberth-an they forind, andlf• the'Noblz. I.,,ordt.,wouht itispea the :Returns he find this:. to be •‘he Betact. had thou g ht' it neces sary to'say thus•intich, iu anSwer tv tfre'grand flou rki-Of I tie otAe Lord, witch ciiteulated 'to make :in itiuo at tinie : of the' Session when-it conit-tuit b. dui . y• met, and w it .was no doubt, Inipet.l t,votiltt work on the Country during the • Strinint4. Tito Country', however,' wo•u' i d- net for-, • get.: ti'isit• his . : - !iltilesty's' Itli•nisters had 'been- tour inonthty in . ctild -had been repeatedly,,,but in vain;,!ctitied bin to brint(forward clistintt'Alegations a , ainsr.their piredeee,'"ors. • • • ' • Lord 011 wisl:eLl that the HOuse slioiddperiettly understand, the ii6int which the , flightJ.lyd: (;entlerniin atilt hitt - bit:lf The , quilstioil sp , tetu of-Coudnt Ole :-itrei•Outo }Lila& zi View to t • : °" . Aineritai exert tow , whetber they:had put tlit.-nf- . hetres in :1 .2partnintt hit' that pnr"pose ? 'lllO ; hich he 'Adroit the t0k,0.• It. notive4ttetrtty "eXprit.itiCed. it 110,11 him. :Idinitted that hat: Atioistels• ttati 1..,1 on: ) . toxic no such but - .litid otiriio(dy theirpiatis 'such a litnititT as to shew that bad determined'eittit-' pletcly to abandon the': it iltent. ti I . Lord C.) ie,•- fele.'offly•oin , ..ld4rit'un Op.! (Al,llt.ii let to that departmerit, tile state of which lits:A4Ltre ref ihtliabil..ty di :Alv I. ,t.1.-Anin:9n4 exertiol ! s. the ti i tilki)oVertitrient (litinnished - the •nurnr;cr (.4 the :';iA months ctippered transports; • but it ivits no .:re.tat plioOt:i!I their abuthiance'ffiai I.., :) . (iit tnts (oho, or , •.:•t'itiefr NV s the 9th I.,'fglit -1 1 ) l asoons)•,. on their way to South Atneritza, tbliti4 t out wir...11 they':got to 111 e-flay Of',liisetty,- that tite) , were in three mouths ships, and cattle: back, beggirg ,to be plit l o ur eolriieredi , e4sels. It had becti the de iitietatepoolicy lift''. AdL . ninistrat;oll'; ii):pos s,..*:is'ilCillftiiios :the weans-Dl' 'etnbatltine, 4eint int; abrOad-n force ot men to tal:e• , itdvati • •tage - tif" , e'veYy iVeittu4tance might occur, • for ivithblit'sneirpreiexisting .oi4parations,-it was pos'sible to strike a sudden hlottr. It •i'as owing:fti that - deliberatepoliO l diat - his 14ite llight-Spn. Friend beery ehatiled •to embark a force the'Cape c was ready to stal ourthe itiuth day after rho fia.l 'bet-ti received thAt the' Cape conid be att?Cko,l. Ile' gat ' , o•th e l ate A dai i_ niStraticm .cre . .l:. for kishing possess nulnb...l , 01 . icOppered transports, althotigh, \l'liOtt lie, came it-no office, thev'';ditl not exceed fo,oon 'tons ; .oitt •-0)0 argurneitt he . :: held with the Hot i. w•Patitit with respea to transports to tie sent ;.ibciri oil 1 ,-, reitvi7tt.4rice; •hur In the preparations .?.t h:;&tieen binch IS to eitabh.. , the late Cinvcin ,ment trt make,i;'ontinental exertions ?' decision rettfittl on 'the - admission and the it , ,surtince 01 •tlie , lare'Secretary of State for the %Y . q:.l)epartinent, -- to whieh every credit must be given, that no such exer-, 'tiOnS were intended tit IPJA•Dii'.4,I/ thought that wheri the:Noble Lori accused ()tilers of want.of ,candour, he should at I,ibtt caridid The Noble Lord had him! He (Mr.:Windhttni) had said,that late 'IN lin ister;- had no itutriediatb-pur:. a f:igee ' t9 the'COntinent,WhiCh ivmild Tnlcie it neciThSary fbr them to have a' provisioit' . `iof sitio for the • putrixibe of carrying troops Over a 4 barrow prof isibu little necessary, bi.teaiist, such• slips tkete.'aN4ilys to be' liad it a iliort warning :these were three months utteoppered and unsheathea !tealisport,.... Of the other 4lass, in audition to What' he had before said on 111 . 6 tiubjeft, , h world state' dire •taut Th;it during the whole of the time that he' Intel had .thy, hononr of being.in office, not a sin 1~ oft'er of a fitted for distant . service had been 're,- fused by 'tit , itspot t Board, and this becate he wa'l anxious tc) provide . a Store . of such ships as could not lat‘ cif tl)° and (filial)" procnred. L h ford 11,E11 . ,E.10 . 11 rejoined', that the class 'of transport , i r rot'eigh _Service* were the most ex. L.. AIL,* all; the" 10,000 tons ni transports: • pys.tess,A . 'hy the ,late •AcniniAratiorr untold not - etn-'. 40ijo• pen, not •eteit :tr,oo. • But I.Vhyvitttial . , ti)t , 1 -I ' . leet.off - llrc.it with these' coppered transports thi- night:J . lOn'. Gen ti's i)lyitt',?, off transports, and his in taking ,thenl up, fart could gam: Lxptjlition, rendered an eorlier dispatch intpo.,•:llllt... (A)t.lliminicat-tbn kt.ith the Conti. 4. I), bit from e QrtiEßEe/G// said, the Hon. Gentle The iirst thiiig done waS to give orders' to .pletirs,. Cbihideration at: ,th the•itate f •:,t. thit that whick would renderie transOorAs; Grit trotn the.'3Ctive ovate 'or our trade„ i• tittle, it vitt"-i t i e as h &pep the sub- j they cepuldt47' tbe siborieripcolleetecl, and tlit,3 it had ik.tnottstration • the •,k)111:1 ,put ni•E9 their •Irnotthle tr.; -skid to the 'King' of. SAvedtql guard,' and in ht 17)'''i.ff.ri. 'eat ouriibjecis, which we %veto bound to .6119 rd. titherm•••ise attaable. When the Noble Lord talked. -r the . Honourable 'xif sending 25,00 p men to the armies of Rtissid and - • ",ere i Prussia;-the••thirrix`Wa§-I(riititlird;7-tri,,ft-it-41-.An,.. atiSINV, libp4,With_Tegrird.to thearmy, hinds*. ot his _Majesty' late force 3000, • ._ hands of the • Mr.' WINDHAM . could tuft tike up tiatisports as fast.as -he wopid soon brivie'pleUty of them. Had hi •n6''.-jut told the.Hilusf,.that during his (Mr.. W.'s) cOntifluziti6p iii office, not a single offer of six months' transports had been refused ? But the Noble Lord . enquired why theChannel-Fieethad been %it:Walled ' by. these ccippered transporis? because they • l-rckrt..i,• ready. Would the Noble Lord Lave achi:sed the FOrhig of other trangport, solely for that purpbse During the whole period of t ht. A: itninistratibn of h 4 friends add himself, not the least dc.tay had in a single instance taked place in Expedition,- for want of transpiarti. As to the fni,,take ut ',ending some three rnontlisi,traii.portS.l6 South. Altieriea instead of cop po.i'ed transports, ire-did not recolleCt the faCI and • after his experience of the iNoble Luitr,s misconcep tittS, he antfst excuse him if lie did not iniplipitlY - • • • trust to his'accuraey. ROSE adverted to,the term' of a ‘‘ mockery of a'Cotart Martial," WhiCh•tlie It:ght Hon. Oentle":-. Plan • had best Owed on the ,re-cmplo..;ntent of a gal lant Oificet.. I-le a'.waYS understo,lt 'Chili an Adnii.j.: cs6rtlniantl -had the right to lea his Captain. Admiral Gninbier had .:ie)et`ited Sir H. Popham. "fle Right Hon. Goaitteman pb4erved, that this gallant. ()dicer was fresh aril)" the'c'enstire of a'Court Marl tial. Fur what had he, been',censuied by a' Court f:. larti ii ? not for war.t.,oreOtirage a ild but 'b cause he had Shewti too acientni-otas a spirit, and . ha"! ,) it furTis,er than the letlcr hi:sinstrtti:tions rs+at.rtinted hitn ire going.' litto*.this last error he. could riot now lapse. Lord Howe had selettcd Sir` itS his tirAt .tilthonctli there. • • ;vere Officers in 'the eieet ifttinitety liit. S;colors. I)i§conterii, ensued, brit tricy!iOon subsided. Suck. appointments must be'tpacie. If any 'thinglike (4is satisfa6tiUtrop this subjet existed in certain quor ters, he.regtetted it, and t;it.tited that it would soon.. di;s'appear.. Was' tin-Adniiral'alkayi to appoint Captain of the I ,to he his oii Captztin.? It ntini.ij happen :that tlittr-Utlicer not fit tut the situation.. • •Genenti •Lorrt*Ls observed, that it • was I,lo[ol'lolli se:lt by the late ''. G.,:ivernment, under Sir STirnuel ioeCl, ‘vere utio' itereci, and that'MardonadOfii,id nearly ttcen gived 111)' nr cimisequen,:e: Clikcd why, on the other .handi .all ratispor 4.sei* with •Gen.'Crau- Ttiiti'wertrcopptrcd ?•• ' • •'• Mr. Wrsytt.c‘f replied, that the •gc:lic:tion..of cop poisA ships for proper :;election,. entiub..nt, vivetf)er . Getitlot;iin, .% :1! at cl?tp,.. •had. the right to hi, c‘wn (;',.'l,taitt, in tel)ded to' act6ie•that Howe Pon!,, ‘ll tsiiutlSct ti pen; 11,1 ~1.40)4,, a v;r1..y.:1 ilia !ay.' i , • Atm de)"e4' the right of e.1:1 dipirt cetOtriail4l'4).„,toteclA., 01ficer'; all' he hactsttid ttl'at thP selcatonwaS ill-jild!:.,e4l,..rtrid •IZ.! at..fpc!ale, 'the geticYitl feelings ter it was' piper T.. 0 to 'apliolin-4 tile,s'Allttnce of a Conn Aartiat. • . Bost: cxl-:ainc,l: , d 111.:Ne . Y. obw:vt , d, that •Jf ..lte inf.nts 'On the othyr side I tail. . FLiend 031;1111ml-0n receot Sir ; lii) e nw:Poplutti, who bad Ion) , service with the coi , tii.2.ance, and dat:bl;,,,-,; the.. spprol)ati(in of those, by whom. be badsl bt..4l) made. lie fully t'be Sunetnent b i - , his ;ht '. • 1)41 Litt t c„ro•ated tutti:h in the s 0 he bad:bevn (.;enlienl_ y en' OppOs'ittitulgilt:have f tweo Oiltet•w;se. 14. 4 " tviiteritoodibat, independent of t circ,innitancd!.., 011 whieti the ,enter ce at the• Court .M . Ornal 10: been founded, some (Axle r, •.c bept) , , stated to. the. '(on wt,t - dd nor t i . cter: ; 'filine, t 1 , 0 ( 01).111(1,11C ii) 111;1[1un -11c..ad) conne.:•,.(l lA:lth . 1:•/••11 to Boen , -; ::•, res,• find (.I) lll l:l,.: , d"' vc rlii i orig 4: nt i ot pc (_;Ctoc: H(S'N!, ..V 1111 ; 1 : i ,; floin not nt. on the ,6bf , ..4:ry, lie .2hoti l d• it dut• j ; or tile 1.T. 6 .. !te:i Mi .- lune into. The . i (vl, of 1; :t 0 111 1 Hi !, a ' Hi to (~ vit „1. t . , IL" t); ). ; ! 1 : , 11 (~, „:, • ,;;11 was ItOtS'O',.'y woUld - be ..,•i•apiiiient ill ttt:tl t. • fiystem. ti';:lt; atlttiOttS, .it .H. Petty's) economy, atltittLet &Mile :L 0 " 'lately at the 11,734.0 f the 'Ere‘tsl.:ry, ,y tniderstood by t . (..:onittr,',. it NOiielt by "" )- • oth unimpaired, ; . i k v:9l,i . tbe,tnore vigfaur, a C!.J:` , 1., 111,m4e .. ?win, and 1 at had marke , i t- :•, • r. , protracited: , The hat dpliver,ance of EuroPe ,n)ight f or thrse times doliv, s ; per,. late Adolitt':strat;ou'v.',. i 1,l V tie Noble Lord forgotten thiv . ,itad ; ing of 'the delcverdhce I:;;roliet:vcy -year. 1794 Not . sOf : s •lo*—bsd bceit it': ▪ • ; , fqlCe. 1:10,tt'Ot1 1 ..1 those event, and not to b.'. to Teter to thew. Let o nt. s9P.cltif4 1110!1 tlt 11.t.t t 4111 c 1) ! tii004(.411; , . it b et- , !! , Zll that pc f" •; i Litt :t t, ,;tAtt taa 1 11 ; , (23i.•, - .1, , 4 • 1 , ; by t " •:: tilt! L;ent10134...:`).