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tse min:anion, nor to defend unlimited bounty unli -o. mited bounty that was a premium on desertion, in preference to limited service that was an induce ment to enlist. When they passed the Army of Reserve Act, the Noble Lot d then thought limited service was an inducement, and yet he says now that a man of +0 could have no inducement to en- Itst for the seven years to complete the service of twenty-one years, which would einitl2 him to the rewords held out by the plan. The Noble Lord had talked of the plan being likely to introdu..e dis content in the navy ; hut limited service had been tried from 1774 to 1779, and there Was no appt•ar ance of discontent either in the at my or the navy. The condition of the seamen is much bettered now to whim it was then ; th-y have since received a con siderable addition to noir pay ; several regulations have been made in their favour, and yet according to the Noble Lord's argument, the better their condition the more likely they are to become discoth tented. The circumstance of giving the 600,0001. is to benome a mile& of discontent. When you Q the soldier an interest in the civil rights of the sub j,a_when, at the end of seven years, he becomes bettered in his situation—when once you give an English soldier all those benefits, according to the Noble Lord's argument, he is to become dicontented end the recruiting of the army will suffer by it : ac cording to that, the satellites, and nut the soldiers, wou'd be the fittest persons to defend the country—. according to that, the maxim of the heroes of old, among our brave and hardy ancestors, who stimu lated Their men to fight n pro cords et ois," could now have the r& of making them run away.— Instead of Englishmen, you should have an army of Persians, or Mamelukes. Look at the situation of the Roman soldier—with thern the tith class would net serve, because they had no inter: st iu the comely. Would the Noble Lord say, the Ro mans did not understand the art of war—so long as the soldier was allowed a property and stake in the country, their armies were every where successful and conquerors; but when they came to the Piz tonao bands, enlisted for sixteen years, their army was soon afterwards ruined. Such an army soon became too strong for the law, and too weak for the enemy—and it is somewhere said, terrible to their fellow citizens. The opposing army of France, he said, was composed of the flower of the country, and it was necessary that we should also have the flower of our country to contend with them; this could not be done but by bettering the condition of the soldier, and by obtaining a superior class of men to enter into that profession; for it would never do to oppose the flower of the French with the re fuge of the English. There was, however, one advantage in favour of our army, the spirit which er-a diffused through the ranks was the result of a free Constitution ; the public * miod matched along with them, iniused a heroism which no King of Prussia, no German, could ins. Fort, but which was solely attached to the benefits of the Constitution. The Right Hon. Gent. in the present plan, wished to mertialise the English ni non, and to make the whole people soldiers, in a eerain degree, and from such a mode of proceeding the most eminent advantage might be expetted if • ole army bould be defeated, there would be another to take its place, and then a third—so that after repeated rickets, vinlory would at length take place; like the Romans uti•r the Eibian General en the Visean ; and, if the Right Honour sls'e Gentlose to count get an arms, and a fill &tatty potpie at the 'Ail e time, he would render s this cow tty invincible, there was another con s.deration he b gged leave to nress on the Com mittee, la the present situation of the country, and of Europe, we must become either a military government, or a military people, We have an army of 257,000 mzn ; we have besides a Militia, and we have Volunteers; and if you give a Kin such an a'my one,/ trouler!, you make Ira] arba trary, y. u lose your constote ; and he thought, therefore, the Right Honourable Gentleman was peileetly right in endeavouring to train the whole people to the use of arms. The Noble Lord had awd this plan was an infringement of the preroga tive, and that Porliam-rat should net interfere with the service of tae army. What, he asked, were the articles of war but a creation of Parliament ? What wax mantel law, but a creation of Patha. went i—The troops of the line were, he said, a Parliamentary army ; and if any King, or any Minister, was to advise any King to raise or make an army independent of Parliament, it would be the most 'unconstitutional measure that ever was resorted to ; and the doctrine that the Army was the crea:ure et the Crown, and not of the Parliament, was highly unco stitutional. Whatever military plan may be adopted, it will Eit• of no avail, unless the public mind goes along with it. The people of th:s country should be adverse to Frar.ce, and not to one another. He was sur prisi-d hear the Noble 1.-rd talk of the sea rs n being jealous; there could, he thought, be no just gr ound hot any fear of the kind; and every man leUr•l re be very cautious how he gave way to such pure objeaions should all secs:llea the danger of our present situation. We should re also, that the 5.0110 difficulties with which we ate at present suirounded, both America and France had, in the outset, to struggle with. And how did they get over Oem? By a firm and steady reeoluti. n not to be overcome by the m, and by a persevessince ;n those wise and salutary measures which 'hey adopted, and never lost sight of, till that &sneers were at an end, and their diffieultiee had V4ll shed. To a country situated as this is, at the tmesent moment, the growest exertions ate ne cessary. Every nian will tale a pride in doMe his duty ; and when that is the case, the genera) re- Beetino %ill be, that there may be such a thing as death, bat nn such thing as danger, when a nation cheerfully sacrifices its wealth to the attainment of a great and important object. For these seasons the clans: shanld have his earnest support. The MASTER of the BULLS thought the plan might be totally unproduaive in print of raising men, and yet may be incuinki-Leyd with all dant urinous expence stated by his Noble Friend (Lord Castlereagh.) Ifs was sorry to snd so fundarnertal ' a difference of opir.ion as prevailed as to this pLui ; he she old be srry to threw any impediment in the way of His .11Arsty's Ministers, but he con ceived they wore about to try a very dangerous capes Weal, which perhaps they would is .t be Able NJ ger rid eihetentter, if found not to succeed, Irstkout a breach of faith. fle thought if any plan was to be cart ied into efftn9 fur limited service, iteriught to be done by the prerogative of the Crown alone. Sol diets ought to look up to the King, and never to Parliament ; and thereby, in case of necessity, they would be able easier to revert to the ancient system. You niay fi id at due end of 10 or 20 years, that limited service iojures the saiiing and !retuning your army; and then it may be said you'll repeal the Al —but you can't well do so—you can't tell the army that what WaS a boon then is not so noweeyou can't, without committing a breach of faith, add,without creating the protest discontent. He then took a comprehensive view of the disadvantages that would result.frorn it to the colonial service, by being of' ten obliged to see d raw so ldi ers to M l up the places those discharged, who must be valuable from their skill and discipline, and being inured to the climate. He could not either seperate the meths of the plan ! (tom the expense attemiing the execution. As to inducement of limited service, be did not know a man should tolijed to enterinto the army for ley life, more than to become a blacksmith or a shoe maker for life. He knew be must enter for life into any profession, in order to get his bread by it, and and why the army should be an exception to this he saw no good reason ; there ought to be a very strong necessity shewn before the House agreed to hazard an expitrimett, pregnant with .$ much peril. It would be as good to do nothing. aster do that which would be inefficient; and it would be bet ter to do nothing, than to do what was inisolieVous. He, therefore, a iahed that the Right Hon. Gentle. man should withdraw his plan entirely, or that he would return the power to the executive Govern ment, where it had hithetto resided. It he was not willing t- do either of these. he thought he slicehld make very considerable amendments in it, which, perhaps, would induce hint to withdraw his opposition to she entire ree.oure. He 'Lets con cluded by saying, that he would be surly the plan of a Minister shualld be negatived ; btu, if some alteration "as not made in that now bdore the lion-e, he would v..ue dire - tit against it. The SOLICITOR GENERAL was much dis appointed shoat his How ainsbie Priem,. who spoke last but one in the debate, had not followed the Noble Lord, who opened it. threash all hi. aictt lotions, as he was that the ennsiitetional arguments of that Hon. Gentleman tad not hoen • yen enticed by the Learned Gentleman who read just sat d:tivii. For hit part, he could not see how the introtludion of this Bill could be considered as an infaingeno-nt on the prerogative. as it was the common Mwilly Bill introduced every year, and which gave Hit M csty the power of r e gu l at i ng t h e A - my for t h e year. It had been given as a reason why toil should be left entirely to the Crown, :hat as it *as a boon to the army, the Piirliament should not interfer.; butt if considered by Gentlemen at the other side of the Howe as such is boor, how could it be consistently maintained that ts.e measure was bad, and would not be of service in raising men ? The next point he had to consider was. with respell to the policy of enlisting men t-r limited service ; Gentlemen, at the other side of the House, had, in his hearing, stated. that it was a most dangerous doCtrine, and one entirely novel. But, certainly, in stating this, they did not resell-athe jealous,-, that formerly existed switch first the men were Witted Car au inde.fiiiite tier.e. When a mars empareetass-. the army, he mast live up the b-nefit of the Habeas Corpus ACt, o: trial by jury, and some other most inestimable liberties, which are the birth ri 4 ht of every Engl shoran ; and be would ask, was it not a go• it ar k , neat in favour of a limited service, that at the end of the time for which they hat bouad themselves,they would recover those onerties, in teed of •y etilisom tor life, give them up fo eve- ? l'he L ..5 ned Gent. then toad several passagesfromJedge . - Aa.kstone's Commentaries. Char Learned Au thor affirmed, that the laws of Eaglsnd knew no such thing as a statoOsig army, and itioughr nothieg was so necessary AS that the military should not he distinct iron) tire people ; the, therefore, the men should be raised for a limited time. 'From thii be argued that we should uow be, at all events, as jea lous of our liberties as our ancestors werethen, the standing army being consists,' Oily larger, surd the Militarlpespot, against whom we contended, being so formidable. It was absolutely necessary, he thought, that the people who fought oar utiles should be thoroughly impressed with an idea of the benefits for which they contended ; and this plan he thought was particularly calculated to impress that idea ; it would make every ;Allier a citizen. and its object also was to make every citizen a soldier. An objection had been made, that • his mea.ire would be very esprntive, and an Hon. Friend opposite him (Mr. Percival) had, on a for mer night, by adding the fourpeuces and bounties together, ,made a calculation that the expense at die end of the twenty-nue years would he for each man 2501. when the expences, by the present mode, would only be 16 guineas. His Learned Friend having made this calculation without giving any credit for the reward at present given to toldiert who have grown old in the service. declared that the Ministers had economy in their lips. but not in their hearts. He. indeed, believed that the axon°. my of the Ministets would never make its way to the hearts of the Hon. Gentlemen, at the other side of the House, and he only wished that they had been in the House during the consideration of the Tax Biil, which his Noble Friend was obliged to introduce, to a,e him reclining on what was in mockery denominated a bed of roses. ..._ _.__ General NORTON spoke against the measure, and said he would read an amendment, which he would advise the Right Honnuranle Secretary to adopt. It was, that after the words " herrn s ears," should be inserted, •• or deriog the war, and months after the peace, if the regiment was station ed at home; twelve mnnths, if in the Viediterranr.ut; and eighteen months. it in the East Colonel CRAUFLTRD rose merely to curry& the statement made by a. Noble Lard (Lord Castle reagh). He had stated, that the elpences of the away under this plats would be 1,00,3801. a-year, and the ta. was, team the most accurate caicala t on he could obtain, that is would only be 600.3601. SO that the Laid had by sow nostalgic, be supposed. added a million to Lie repent's. Ear W. LEMON c:ought that an army under this plan was mast COOVOMIIII.II, 11114 1.1111166411 supported it. Lorsi CAS REAGH uplalaad. , •w..r7 T .-lAr- have received an excel ' :vat arc,. .1 tr.v prewht mute of the American The..te,, (Mu. our Coireswupleut, at New lurk, which vitall appear upon the earliest oppottunity. THE BRITISH PRESS. LOS DON, TUESDAY, Jut./ 3. In the House of Commons, last night, the CRAP:. CCL Loa of the Excitisieea announced his intention to bring in a Supplemental Property Tax Bill, for the purpose of altering the exemptions allowed under the A! as it now stands, and extending re lief to persons of small incomes and large families. He also gave notice of •his intention to obviate the objeCtion to the Tax upon Private Breweries, by proposing that it shou:d be colleCted in the same mode as the Assessed Taxes, and not pot under the superiatendance of the Excise, Mr. WINDHAM% r.ew clause rcspeaing limited service in the Mutiny Bill, as we foretold yuiciday. was deflated over again. List night and until one o'clock this morning. in the House of Cowancm, whets it was can ie.! by a great majority. The Awkieri packet arrived at Falmouth nn Friday, with the Mail ft. -, m Lisbon, which she left on the 19th last. The letters will be delivered out this day. lhe liafor roan of war, with the Beet under con, c) , w,iich lilted from Cork na the Loth of /4- aruary, ;arrived at Barbadoes on the 14th April. We have rtecivcd New York Papers to the 23J last. but they contain no news of any interest. Two Gottenburgn Mask arrived yesterday. We have also r.c -aired Paris papers to the 45th, and Dutch to the 30th last. The Moaricar contains a curious piece of naval ant-llig-nee. It stars, that there arc nit less than 15 ,:,visions of French -I,:ps of war at sea ; admits that many of these mu•t be taken, but consoles itselt in contemplating the mis chief which they will do to our trade, and boasts that France will carry on, upon laad, that war against our commerce, w:iith he is unable to maintain upon the ocean. We conceived that the French had only five squa irons at sea, and that the Merril ere has ex qv-rated the number ; but we bare no reason to complain should its statement be correct. In that event, the chance of prises is multiplied in our fa. your. Ttu Frenel armies are repreientrd, b the Din.-11 papers, as baring broken up in giraria, and filing off to the Rhine. wLile the Paris jnerspls preserv4 total sik ce iipon so important a ci!,:ninltatwe 1 latter, indeed, are ranch la,s pereinftory re;peeti the aJjobtment of the differences between Ats:t and France, titan the Dutch papers. The intelligence from Napl:a occupies a tonsil, able part of one of the French papers. It says r thing about the progress in the siege of Q,sta, is very copious in disgusting details of the populari of the new Sovereign. Windsor Terrace was uncommonly crowded o Sunday evening. Their MA, es , nrarsed wit several of the Nobility. Soon After right o'cloc the Roy at. FA MItY retired to the music rooms • the Castle, and had.a 'cleft party. ' The RoTat. Famisy ar..ived in town yesterday abort twelve o'clock. l'acesset at.? and MASS visited Lady C. heel, t soon after the ROYAL Lures visited their NI the evening, th.:Lit. Mau:Tits had a cacti party. Viscount FITZHALS ala will shortly lead Miss D ASH W OOD to the altar of Hymen. The Right Hon. ISAAC Coate set of 'veers, el nine o'clock on Sunday night, for h-land. Hi. to tended grand dinner, announced for to-morrose, consequently postponed. Francis HA RDV,, Esq. formerly memher f o r Mallinger, in Ireland, is Appointed nue of the Curis4 raissioners of the Revenue. This gentleman has long heen the intimare and particular friend of thth Earls of Mote* and ANA en. To-morrow tie Loyal Southwark Volunteers ant Sharp Shooters will have a grand fi.d -day 1.7 be/. r,our of th.. Anniversary of the birth-day of otp er a . ciouslitivere.gin After w.sieh, the se k4 e will dine together at Montptlier. On Friday last we inZerted an extraa of private letter from the Hag**. dated tile ggi lase. stating, that Louis Zinsa raters was appoi .4 King of Holland." We were assurrd, at t time, that there were other letters of the sarise d -te in town from Holland to• the same They may not be true, .bot we think they sltrive some cenflimation from the following repot media by the Master of a Neutral vessel from Holland.. rect.ntly arrived in the I..):rwns: " PRINC6 Louis tO COIIIITITOTIONAL KIPS or liosiaso ; the dignity to i.e hereditary in that male line; rid in failure therelt, his successor is to be appinted by the Emperor of the Passau„ `and' such successor ro be by blood or hiltti a Beta via Citizen. H•s income is to be two smi.lions of guilders per an- um. " All t..e Offices are to he filled hynative4 of the country. he P-r. f/da of the Royal I iouseliad 44 In.- i.inguage, the religion, and the etiu:n ; laws, are to he retained, so far as they do not unit tate gninst the new C.ons:innion. the Regal Office will, in a great measure, re senthli that of the GRAND PeNSIONAIt bit with Powell more extensive as to the appointment of Officers i.i the Army, the Marine, and the Cl:Armies. A Legislative Body et th.rty.e.glit persons, ex elusive of a President. • u A Council of State of thirteen p•r•ons, without a President. including Gve M -tubers of State. 't he Al f. :1 - • - the Kiso. 0 Ile National Debt is acknowle " An advantageou, Treaty of Clrio.,erce shall be nerciatui betwetn f 14.11 CC anJ II iL,nd. " r ere shall be no appeal to the Penile, as to thvir approbeion sit the new Constitution." '• It is also mentioned, that the limits of the new monarchy were to be extended to the ‘Veser ; and that scassotr.Levitsinci: was to be nominated to the Presidency of the Dutch' Legislative Body " On Saturday the commission, and the *hole of the instruaicass for is,uing fetters of nuocitie against Prussia, were traromittd to the High Court of Ad. mital.y, in Doelors'-Commons. Ihe warrants foe , privateers were issued yesterday. Letters from Wesford, dated the 27th, announce the return of Mr. Colclou A li, for that county. Front one of them cc have made the following . %tract. a• M .Colclough had got so much a-head of ins opre nent on thr nn success was considered certion. r,i, majority was tordier encreaseJ on Monday, tl'e 26m, %ilea at the close of the poll the numbers sta 1 thus: Ca ar caishir,gh, . . We.) Cocigre.e . Ntaa'ity 1 Mr Co dot-ch, . . . Last right the friends of Mr. Aleock took his c-:-e into c 'eraii,n, arid, with Moir advice, he this morning gave field, the contest. leaving M r . C o l e l oug h master of the field, and in pasitission of that hamour wt•tch he is so iced entitled, and which I trust he will long conch-ilia to enjoy. The moo pet fed trancirritltty has pr railed iv this town since the com mencemeat of the elettion. Not a single aft of impropriety occurred." The Sparkish lugger St. Desuiis, laden with hides, Etc. fur m Pilau. bound to San Antonio, cacrured near Bilboa by the Samaras. slo la of war e arrived on Saturday at Plymouth. Ou the 17th last, the tender belonging to the Surinosa, under the :run mind of Mr. Ross, the First Lieu coant, mount ing four swivel guns, four musquetoons, and mass ned with ten men, cruizing about two miles Mr the Castle of Bilboo, and it falling calm, the Spaniards dispatched an Armed boat with thirty soldivrs to at• tack the tender, which, After a very gatia-t action, was sunk, and all the crew and soldiers were either killed or drowned. Another:boat, aimed and man• ned is a similar rnarntr, w 45 sent off to ihe latter, which the tender also engaged, and beat off, after having six of her crew killed Five o• her armed boats were then se-t off, hut a breeze apring• ing op. the tender made sail, findi. g it inipirssiae to encounter the formidable face proems'. n. to attack her. Lientena: t R ,s it stated to be or • e•elr wounded, but the greatest hopes are enter tairted of his recosery. Two seamen av•-• also tiredly wounded, one of whom, it s feared, mdrrally. To-noaartw, the first-drawn Ticket will be entitled to 'l,OOOl. being the Siathrtar of Drawing. I bete is also a Prize of 10.0001. and wirer t o. Fee Capitals in 'he Wheel. Tickers and Shari*, war ranted midi-awn. continue oe sate at the Offices, corner or Ba rk fluildine t s. Corona!, and lacing rho Gate :h.. King's \!ews, Charing Cress, by RlCilLikUlter t CrOODLUCII, and CO. . . 1044 . . ' Sill '2 .34) [p Lord LOUVAINE did not think the Army in its present state unconstitutional. Lora DE fiLkQUIERE thought that the Ulan who was disposed to enlist wouli not be deterred by being told he Was only io erthq for seven years. He then entered into several other arAuments. and expressed Isinbelf decidedly in favour of the mea sure. Mr. YORKE shenly explained. General STEWART observed,*that from eight year's expetknce nu: of le is the military service, he was deciledly against the present measure ; nor could all the suiuments of the !rich orator (Mr. Grattan) conv i nce him to the contrary. He wished, exceedingly, that the officers of experi-nce had been consulted,. and concluded in declaring his decided ppposition to the ct•iuse in question. Sir. GRAS TAN said,,from what bad fallen from the Hen. (3entleMan on the ober side. it was evi dent be intend, to scatter some of his shot at his (Mr. Grattan's) side of the house. In submitting the few observations he bad mad*. he did not mean to dictate to the house, nor did the observa tiuns of the Hob. Gentleman Ince any ehange•in those sentiments, or refute any one single argument which had been used. IVhen the Hots. Gentleman lashed at Iliih Orators he should have given some spec men of Irish undetstanding; for his non part he should not be guided by his opinion, either ai an orator or an officer. GE.NER A I. S I'EW A RT replied, that, although he was not am Irish 'orator, he hoped he was an Irish soldier. Mr. BANKES. in an animated speech, had no objection to making an experitnent of the pr .posed measure, yet lie expressed himself adverse to a ge ne►al )et:' .uning system ; as he considered general ret t euitiag,eeeradetilltageous to the army,bur cala mitous to the country, in ref-fence to its usual oc cupations—those df commerce, husbandry, and manutaaures. He was willing us give the mea sure .. fair trial, but hoped after that, if i• falcd, His Majesty's Minisrets would not persist, but sub stitute somethieg whi, h might, upon mature con siderati , n, be found more efictual. Lord GAM-IES thought upon so serious a suhjea he should not give a silent vote, ani had no hesi tation in declaring, fr•m all the consideration he could give the sui.jeft that it must be extremely detrimental to the regular army, and, therefore, he voted against the meteors - _ The 4nestion.was now loudly called for, and strangers ordered to withdraw. While exc:uie...i, we undeistard, Mr. Windham made a few obser tatinas in reply, atter which a division took plac wheu there appeared—For the Clause, 206 against it, 105 Majority, 101. The Repo? t was than brought up, and nrdere.• to be taken into iuit'ier consideration Otis day. The third reading of the Treating Ad was post poned till Monday nest. Th.- other orsiets of the day were then disposed of, and at 1•WO O'CLOCK this morningthe House