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woola lead class of such parties! Ite must consider slope the prin. the Poses, mph, of flee mealier' he has Milled es In admit. But This get , the measure, laitrad of dectitlimg any shine, really des Peers, the tided Dethieg ; hashed of laying Um funadation for a the Connitens.o-si just decide & in future, it would pelt it out of their They had seem power 1. &tercels* what they ought er ought nos to Wes ambitions ! admit. But Grit he would even himself of the authority by degrees, of Mr. Pitt. Mr. Grattan. and all the great men who had i particular . advocated the (petition, including some Noble Lords then influences j poesomt,*ind not roegening the respectable Gendemon, the ihe Houses. I author of the Bill—not one of whom, till last Seine., • set in that ever dreamed of proposing ronces without securities. taken( the Oh!. bet this Is an isolated ease-eoit bois Duthie( to 'meesere— idu with the general m aaaaa e." He denied it entirely. .• nooses-. I They were putting it coat of their power to consider of Iron reasons I t h e Emeriti measere. There was a foolish fellow called the ll—considering ! Kilted printer, who had got up the Bill evident'y from active spirit She wrung maneteript. Doubtless he had great pars is les be slid. the bat be had certainly male • mistake, for baled ant worship, set about repealing ea Att which happened to be repelled moved that upwards of 100 years ago. To he sure the Bill, lo alreld unseen difficulties with respect to other B Ile of who& Iles for the Bill, , author might happen to he noeonscietrs, had is ism ' establish. Wheelie. of I' uotwitbstandoug soy other Lets," tied any smile j by these (es loose words all the trouble was gut mould tor. I over. . The author of the 8011, without co remony, went let religion or I work to repeal the Art of Chitties 11. without any c semen either oft, derail.. of the originating reuses. Let them con.olopit give Use Popish mimes prior to the Reforoistion ;no man could look begih t the reclosio• I . that period and out course that our ancestors hail not @haw sci bees motto ! folly sod egregiously submitted to the doethistwa of OW Coestereeers. I Court of Rome. lo other iostsuces they behaved like sb • mild till ; Reperseolatives of • Cleat sal too. From the Reformations ap . baste sad the Revelation real the vreatioes of • disturbed Gomm, the Hiss , meet, •II the difficulties which belong le • Givers sal er that be ! whereto it canoe' be keels whoi is the predonnotant rile 'sett Pam ; gion—or hen the struggle is to stake the Chortle political, and IM, sad this Cul to make the elate relitpoes—prevailed loan intolerable in rare/ s ell degree, and gave riot to the laws which alma& now sought , who wee I to repeal. These lass gala repealed, they would loosen Ms Lori/P the eery WWI of the State, sad subject it to became the spurt of the Camusoos l ow . , same di ffi culties until the question of astetidancy were again Ir high pease.. ! determined. Proneolant govrroment ur Catholic governs distinguished Is i =cot would be predurstioent. If they preferred the • - the Co*. i domination of either to the other let them declare it ; hot I any other j it must be far one or the other. Do sue let them pet discovery of Thies ; back to the fierce and dirficalt contest hies from which the I the impeschnomit ' nano. hail escaped. S demo Maynard, it seemed, shy 2 sod testimony ;way however. reckoned a great lawyer, had been mistakes ? in, and in i*. dHe remembered an anecdote *lnch was retinal of him, diet waylaid nod when he appeared before William 111 tail Prince said to ' exatuitnaliewe him, Why, you ore a eery viii mss—you hitt. osolived these were : the lawyers"—" Ye.," mod old Mayuard, "and I phispild ihely were have outlived all the lies too if you Maje.ty bed mug 4,, that See. ' core in time to sive them" He would predieate the IMMO Almighty thug of his Noble and .!warned Friend ae..r him-olio*, of he In...tip's of succeeded is getting this Bill passel, ma be looked health* it,. to dies and might yet live INZ he would have • chitese to tootle* -a where es- the laws duo.—(Laugh ter )—The N.phk. sod Lessen. Heflin:tout the Lord then commeated with great messily on the statist._ ars eller ; for lit Phillip and Mary, titan which • mute debased and ithi perjury on the goading document could not be cited in regard to pa witnesses. Vet motion. He sepatietod on the preseuce of the Pope alarms ou Legate and all the format. by which dionoinsoLin , that they restored to the Pipe, out the rights of the Koglish Cr,. would alma. abridged. Upon lh it SIMUIP, sod the 2or 3.acd.20 Ault oslilernan would pawed at tho Retro m tutu to art n aside, he would gouie the . ' peotory.— voodoo of Judge Hale, thin tie our Catholic and Pionestset ho support could take the o,th of al:re...nee in the same sense, if the It was to Calhoge could nut also take she Oath of Sapreavicy harm dune earelmot Judge umierstuod by the word 'allegoaore, • transaction, es 'tided allegiance, without reserve of spiritual jorisdielind ma.. He ad- fur the Pope. This was first of all refivied be an Art 4 enough lo Henry VIII , then by annher of Elieshrth, which repealed Ind that the all that hat b. eu done to restore it by Phillip end Mary-- jadgeneet soil ono, without any tiodinetion or rem rvalion, was to be es tin lunges restored by the Bill. The matter rested in this state from charges thee Quern Eligobeih down to the time of the Trot sad Co. po lo be tree! ration Arto—sgainst which he must do hi. Noble Friend the dread of a jnotire to ail 6,11 801 l did directly strike. He wished to speak !cork ? Cer- of it to as (pistolled tamping, as possible; but it did seem the Arrow to hint that tine Bill being erode , ' Is Catholie Liu► etreadialeneeif changed, meters. there (veld be ire rbruse they must give the other eathobes Warne unrestrained prortieges to Poatest••i Dinsenters. The , ea moneseats Art 5 Else append to Woo to have here anomalous is If. tiling civil gislationso-to screw the Ointooras in bare Catholics among immotiefoo-the Maws- them, mid allow le to the Peen. Thew came the statism al lostonee—thee the Charism against Popish Referents, tandem lodine the Piers. It eof the Honer. He woe said sow that these were foolish matutes—beraese *lgaito't Popish Re- they enabled the Peers to du nothing but what they might ioriseartheKlee's hare done without thens-sboy etiforemg the former statute,' Jane !I, 1791. amnia Popish Reenessoir. It was thew said that all this ea. s the oath and done by Titus Oates! Good God! wilt it tome's; time! punished ender That the Covendishiso sod the Sonsor.ele, and oilier greet was in &iodised, man of that permit, whew aleseesidaers were now around him, prescribed oath of all honourable sad distinguished men se they were. shduld "- considered have it. ens put, la wieli • (right, avid led 04/twarmit such Isis apprehrod- takes by Titus Oates, who was put in the pilhuy three times ,to Coelho- in obit year! Well, be it siipmmed thus these affairs in roll- the reign of Charles 11. were all wrong; then came,, supremacy admitted James 11. Now pamphlets had bees published, end - irrportant coos speeches bad •ppeaoed in the newspapers ewe this ogle". • mood nog non, from which obe •01,14.1 h•ve oopp3spel that there wile called for au snit reign as James II He might have lA' n ups seep He would foolish opinsiin, tut he hollered th.t the 90th Charlie 11. of entsuci. would have pawed if Oahe had never been bon.; not foe he oitavoot. getting the dying opinions expressed be the Inswalla sod the id owl. No Sydney. on Popery ; net forgetting, if Hairs had a lived. atoored; but the reign of James II , sod the earnestness of King WK. emalloiril in horn at the bone of his death to sot his aat to the Art' sleeted is of nettlemein ; not rotenone the Act of Scotch Union, Off _ seen el I les the new moils meet is, the time of George 11e of civil ditties. Foot. in which the 30th Charles the Seemid, without indolence of • tonrideronuo or 1111111i00 of the conies, wag re 'started Bills in the In words and terms. He then adverted to the liidensoity the House, Bill, passed f ens age to age, hoot year to year; but first let that if ant them ohoove what passed in the reign or James 11. He folio.. Grant would slog's have the declarottios of a King received with void whereon great lore; the word of a King should be ',edema Ow of lie as sacred as his oath; het when the 'object was lbe eemmelfy he Constitolion Ise looked fur other end firm., securities." instatesy he had This Its war taught by the assurance given its Partin. him. But vomit by James II.: " You may depend upon it sedan/ ' opiates hod Is au near my heart 6$ the proteetiou of the relive. tied perm*, tons larts—a King Is not it to live who would wish to be any there as. greater thou those laws allow." Yet, room hour to hew % mime most lie dewing his fitful lento, was be engoged to Mips-ism away treroquilhled, those laws, by palette., by exceptions and eXeasplintall ' , would bare (he had teen *cores of them), till he had left IWO , of illmem INheolt as, the Clotho. uohro.ken. They weer told of the small number of Peers to he IffieeehesPrelestent 1184 admitted, nut more float right or now, weludivie Ire/Cwt. adieu* what those Was there nothing brehir power of et , sting Popish .Ph re ' i ohm so deed, Nn nee meld hook with mare eiofidence spots the semaidiet veer the world, of the Doke of York, or len dread she effect of Popish them proposed Couurils up.ai hint. His object we. known t o tee the Heel. 'eformli•fr. Even Illy of the Established Church, w ith so a...he10t...1ed hams ' God! that thou, seri this he would do of himself "follow any obligation donee se of law But his demise might lake place in a wroth (though woollies Gad forb.d Ij and leave Mein open to the 11•1111. IS id a new .0 he ever met lUrCe•P1011. le ea., indeed, impansible to trot what would ordeed. To pro. happen if they give sip the sacurlolea of the Ilevolutims. New is no Km; as to Tour Oates, he must say shot he bail been terribly itself of he used—he scarcely knew which was worst—he or J. Error, sweationded is manse. • who punished him with sorb at, awful rigour. How. wen, more only the ' the Popt.h Plot and all the circumstances of it, sail haunt. the honour iog to it, were over bo fore the Rreulootion. Is was not his ♦ be sure he cuaduct boot that of the previous reign ohieh (mused thooe Hee.' be would restraints to be nestled. The emits object was to place the weft ass country out of the way of danger from any such wished to n ceor v enres again. He would be sold that be was wow, with wrong to consider that period es one of fundamental the Heron., legislation. Here he would ohs. rye, that he was well aware riots. of trust- las met of legislation to-day tooth' not be binding to misty • lit of yoelthog i fitters Legislature. Bet the question was, if there might sot Its which had be portions of legislation which were l.ft oa a perpetual mimed epee memeoto to guide them hr of like difficulty? Compare any titattoe. these Acts of the Retrolstioe with the *weal Acts of the same Catholic Come period. It would be found that those Acts were designed I reek a dowse. I to rear up the shatter. of the legislative body, and that resdy to pay the Acts were sccordiugly to be essiatial, foodanientsi, spersttess y het he . sod to artist for ever; other Acts were prepared to fltsot only high mid Loaves dories the pleasure of Parliament. What did King Willies. that Leveed hieseeW my of them? His words imported the object to, owe. He bad aattiag op law fro the protection of she constitution, whit', , admit BMW, should sewer be subverted. What said the Couveotteed Mar who Theymmid'imietely the same langeace. But in all Mae l ig rmlN the were &Tetrad. The Ries was driven Gum hie themie, • ".• ;~ Ilse woo seet,t... 11.11 deice rest Sh ee ." lll 1.44. • cause they were go ue iterate* afraid of Titus Oslo, that thry... rfaked all the eensequesters of. rebellion—and *hat to do? The Pee l hun P ai wet already elegy of Papists-.. Hie Commons by the sth Elisabeth—she Lords by the 30th atellee re.onseted the deasbility to sit in Parfienterel. TIM language or the first art of his reign was fur all future Par liaments. This would not be if the Bill were to pass. The* statute declared that it was foetid by experience ineunveuiettt sad danevrons, and inconsistent with the liberties of the pro: pie for soy bat Protestant Princes to govern. He might not even marry • Papist. [The Noble and Learned Lord pro. eiteded to infer that the Govoreetent must in all its parts agree with this siipulstios.) They were never to forget that the object of the Revolution wet to secure a Protestant King—a Protestant Church—sad a Prote•tant Constitution. That object vise nut attained union they could make all the establishments agree with the declaration. The King was restralued ; he cosh] do ito act of state without sub scribing the deelliration. The pretest king took the oaths, and anhscrolved the declaration prescribed at the Revolution before he took his teat under the canopy. He had the bononr of knowing the descendants of many of the great men who assisted at the Revulution. Had h• known their aereaturs, mud had said to them up stairs that they were all a parcel of rank (*weeds, out of fright at Tiles Oates, to change the sueceasion, and do so many other strange things, he would have found a much quicker way _does stairs thaw Ibis conveedenre could bare taught his. aYillioin, in the hot inomeets of his life, was employed in le everting, by the Act of Settlement, those very laws The Bill of Rights declared that all that was done in the nig. of James 11. was with a view to subvert the Protestant reli *les ; but Ihr Bill of Rights, sod all which passed in coo soinauee with it, would ramie* the strongest ceneure front this Bill of 1122. But they wore to roesider what was the language of the Scotch stabiles. There it would be found that 'all was to be nu a Protestaut plan. In the Act of Unhin, especially fur the repeoseotation, so noes *as St to elect or be elected hot a Prot/aloof. Pays . ibis Bill, and the articles of Chisel were broken. It world be in the power Of • Klieg to crest. ea wary Popish Peers at mice as would sat-somber the whole Smite+ Repeeseetathre Peerage. The 4el ef Geo. I. rhuirencted the exclusions, without qualities thin or 'moue moigised. The Act of Geo. 11. "Treed the way to reclaim °lke% and revalued various penallits. But thee the animal lodemoily Act implied that the Legislature thought it orriessary to reserve the power of withholding that privilege tf say thug were don. to forfeit st. How was it memilde fur thuiss to do without olleeitrilies for this Bull, which hid been offered fee all others? (shore, be dud not believe them to be severities, except, they could prove that this measure would Certainly rreaela iwolaied and bad nothing to do with the general mea sure.) He felt grateful to there who had brought the Bill formed, because it waste, give Parliament an upper treitf satisfying the Prevost's* mead--already IWu meth agitated by the subject. Let this Bill be posetil, and en what greonds could they shut out the era? It was impomihfr—if they would legislate here me Chitty of Peplos, they could no prevent the other Noose froles dike the sashes What right had they strictly to re fer* it? He would tell the Noble Lord, that slept he ' rueld allow hie Sormeien to marry a Papiai, he would pro lest against admitting Papiata into that 111 1 •••• He was a , - lathed to ancient wages, which hid lasted now 150 year., sod !heirship' flits brought by them made him resolved 1501 to reboot to any altevathin which would seam !whit bark the old causes of dmuubsiice. 11 , would he said, " But yen. h•ve always belie milling' eel (101• •01eifie measure" He had su whenever the (astral no haul berm talked of without limits [silo' eat, helium, be liked to hove the es ker, of the change ; but he mast deny a sp. rifle wafture of it led to isotelloiot rowooaioo or the geoeral measure. Is principle End eeseere Iles Bill was wheel short of general emeneloalion, It was oftv• said that the 'freers' n"elfere must take place mum. slay. He did not believe it—lto ' thought it lee probable is to the fueqseney of the amerrion. He was for the liberties of his country as they were established at the Revolursuo—for the relightn of the ' reentry a• et the Revolutien-ofor the laws estobileibed at the L Retrulutoo Pass this Bill slid they were all gone. H. would ceinclode in the lingaiige of ling William, " the laws, religion, and liberties of Enktand I wail maintain i" sad, therefore, he would options the Bill. Earl GREY the. rose. He said hr felt considerable dillL rutty in attempting to fallow the Noble sod Lett natl Lord tlecaugh the lesulg-ilrawo Inferences he land made from the various statutes which bun upon the aubjeart ; but he trusted that when their Lordship. had overcome the imprevedion which that addrame muse have predated upon their minds, they would Sod 'hat the arguments which bad been addieed wan mot moiled to sock anted as to !adore them to rejiet she .nowt leading of the Bill nous before tbent.—(Hear.)— He should begin where the Noble mid Learned Luril had ended, saintly, with a declaration that to the luberties of his r000t• y, as estabis•hed at .he Revolution, he was as strongly ^attacked as sus man helot, and if he could suppose that the passing of this Bill would have • tendency to endanger Ante liberties, or awakes their security mid maluleuauce, ou Ilan would more eigesly ions* it; but believing, as he did, that inirls•te• was not the prumeiplehlll the recep of the Wiry lot 00000 ; and believing, fa t ber, that liberty, civil and religious, was the subject 'deb me great men who had oppoied a surcess• ful reolsiseee le. eyries,. sad estabtish.d our Merlin on Ilitt Mead founalsteasie—fCheerra)—and cooceiving, as he did, . , that the securities, which they 'ought and the minctictas they lat‘arbor from • view of a panirolar Necessity, and cellviscrdiltial Ilse causes of these restrictions no fuer' existed, he, idiot iis the *pint and or the principli • .fibs Rendotiee, to/pealed to their Lordships in fivour of Hine noble pentomiree she had beep debarred hoot the en. joyment of Mom right. and privileges which were inherent in them from birth.—(Cheers )-.Fur if the laws by which they were exclinkd were Not founded IN necessity, all men meet erlasit them to Ire tiojest.—(Hear.)—The Noble end Learned Lord bed endeavoured so impress upon their Lord. ships a logien, which wee merely ea mertioo„ for it was sot attempted to be proved, otiosely, that this Bill was only • rs . 'Wiest, step lo the &corral question of Ceilidh c Emencipa. and that If this measure wets grated, it would be int• preamble to sleep without admitting the Catholics to the full itejoymeot of the privileges of the essostitution. Uuduubt. idly if that would be the effect sit the ninon'', it should U.S operate es his mind as an objection funkier has ship, that the yeupositiois most be considered se iovidiously in trodoce.l. Hoi olitiough he andernood that insinnetions of the envie deseriptiou which be heard to-night, had been throws out on emillier occasion, and that the measure had been chasaelerisedisvoistical and insidious. he could out be lieve *list there was a shadow of fouodatiosi for the aesdilos. The real rift of the ease wpm them s The author of the Bilk a tac t, it t, anteet, and moat be admitted, a stwes mum powerful ate for Ceibulse cuss elisions, understand tag that there etas no 'tannin/a to brio% forward the ge- send .vivre doting lb. present Semsuo, introdoced that ;Billie the usher House. Tie Ron.. of Commons, upon hie •pplieatioo, mot up that Bill to their Lordship', a Hill which lied for its object the erotism . of sib, Catholic Peers to Oho*" rights of which they had bees originally deprived without sulkiest cause, mod the eachleiou from which could no lugger be dostieurd withust still greater injostice.—. (Chem )—He therefor, thought that Bill should be coital. derail us its owe merit'', and it required something moll than here insertioe it/ lettuce their Lhrthhips to suppose that the lied-rem, comwoneisee of the passing of thi• Act would be the foil measure of emancipation He had always •Inteined from mints the general claims of the Catholiss i on any &maniples* of right, beyond that general right 0 conwietice which all men should po , of vrorshipploc• i their Creator IN whatever mangier he believed to he tree; s dill admitting that otiosely', is its folk-t einem, he did rot Avows Soden, that the Catholic must be liable to restraints . Won they became necessary to the general safety; but that weeeseity shooid be clearly made nut, and on those who sought to emelinoe these distrahaeationa, the oars tested of proneg lb what manner the priecipin and at. Whiteouts of the Catholic were deagerous to the State.— (Hese, hear, here.)--Thet he task to be the true principle sod the only use en which exclusive curia be justified, and if • strong cane of necessity were made out, he then admitted the right of imposing these disisiniliflcetione. If, then, they were booed to adhere to this principle le the p anel ease, hew mach more binding did the obligati"' be. twee wheel this privilege was demanded by some of the so. tient Peers of Ilia realm, out indeed un their ens applies. • tioa, but by the sailor c this Bill, instigated to propel* it, hum • pease of juotiee operating on Isla mind. They de manded the restoration of lawful rights, which had been trasensitted to them throngh • seirceseioe of aces. co-ordlnale with the Government itself, sod ie./parable from them, ex cept on account of some imperious political isecemils such as he had described.--(Hear, hear, hear.)—Then putting the gestation on three grounds, how did the question stand? Frost the period ..1 the Reformation down to the reign of Charles 11. Catholic Peers were nut excluded from the House of Lord,. The Noble and Learned Lord had gone tato an examination of the Acts of the early part of the reign of livery VIII. In examining these Acts be (Lord Grey) rowed that the 25th, 26th, and 35th of the King, were the only Acta applicable to the case; but la none of those was it required that the oaths now in exlstenre should be taken by the Members of either House of Perlis meta. He did eel Gad any form fue administeriug those oaths in any of these Acta. But it was • rtes. ly established point in hi..tory, that u•lil the sth of Elizabeth no oaths were required t• be taken theAyealifleatious to tit in Par liament. Then as oath was reritiired to be takes, although nut as • previous condition ; but even is that Bill there was an capers. clause in favour of the House of Lords. Was it necessary In recur to the circumstances in the reign of Rl:zabeth, which gave rise to that Bill She had js.t re tend, ascended the throne; she found the meat einhitiont Monarch of the age lammed against her relives: the most parterre! Patriotism that ever lilted the episcopal chair of Rome then 'auctioned the eoneniratry against her. They could nut forget the mummers of St. Bartholomew at Paris, and the attempts to amassinate the Queen. Yet notwithslandiug all those eirram-tanows neither she nor her Parliament ever thought it necesuary to demand thew securities, opus which, if they b. laved the Noble sod Learned Lord, the whole stabi lity of the Consiitutioe depended. Had lie not • right then le recur to this period, is order to doom that, even in • lime of Ilse greatest daisger, these moulds; were not considmed necessary to inaiotain those great Mires's? The tweets queues was, klisabetta found no moms to regret Mai pews dent course of policy which she bad adopted: tare arose; nay, when • conspiracy look,. forth against the Peuteattid "edgier', tanetioned by the Pope, not •itioutseding the diff in religion, Elairheib found the Catholics amongst her must Zr alou• and steady defenders.—(Hear )•-• In the reign of James I Catholic Peers were admitted to sit in that House, notwithstanding the controversy which the King easier, on personally at stint time with Cardinal lets lent and others shout Anti-Christ; still the Catholics main tained their station, and hie successes found them his most steady supportera. Ile wow came to the time of Chilies 11. end be thought the Noble and Loused Lord had • little eirefoonded the laws of those times. The Test Act, wilch ass thee passed, ems so posed to have hose aimed at the Duke of York, Sites the heir presumptive to the throne, and whose approaching chymous stermd his principles to le• regarded with the umust jealousy. Tbe object of that Act was to exclude all those who dot Caul soh. se ibe I. the priociples'of the Protestant religion from hold ing civil or military muttons ; the consemousee of which was that the Doke of York was deputed of all the others he thew enjoyed. Thee' folluwel the Popish Plot. The No. bliraml Learned Lord must of course feel in common with almost every man in the conuiry all that horror which the penoral of the history of dome limes was Calculated to pro dory, at a time when law afforded nu writes ion, and isso. fence no greenly ; when the most extramilieary stories and tales were received as fact, and the tools wonder now was how any man could have given the least credit in them. It was seder these fears that the Act for ',tending Roman Cathie! c Peers from Parliament was peered. But he wisher' their Lord ships to s fer to the Acts which passed previous to that time. In 1175 an Act was proposed, by which allp-rsons alto del out take an oath declaratory of the doctrine of passive nth-di sum wiled be di-qualified (rum sating in Perlianient. This loss resisted by the Peers, Can the ground that It interfered with those !amitotic which sweet inherent In them by bish, Cad which could sot be 'likewise*. them tsarist by the coos Palomino of some crime which wool., justify fe leisure. He stood here us the secant privileges of the Cons Mutton—lie asked on new coneession—be sought to establish no jamas. limo; the principle be 'avowed was bottomed on the prae. toy of the Cowstisition le the meet dater/Prows tinsel. H. now came In the period of Inc Revelation, and lie onsistained that It stood upon peisoipplas sloop thee uoposeil to ea elusion—(Hear, hare.)—and if exe'esiou was adopted at the Reetiletion, It some from the Clrtnal•lantol of lita times; mid moires it could he proved do it elm saute Mervin slues minded now, the argooneet of necessity advanced by the Nobly and Learned Lord would oat serve his purpose, Their Lordships were boned to moonily the motives and circumstances from which these laws original. d Thee were laws of exelesios, and meld only lee justified by a great and paramount necessity. If that sty ceased, thee it would br no logic just to maintain them —(Cheers)—• What then were the cocoinstances at the lime of the It. vu. lotion ? A King endeavouring to restore Popery bad been recently Imbeds.' from the throne. That Sovereign was supposed by the great msjority el this country, and by our talkie pirates' Atom chs in Frasier, then in the normalise' of his glee y. Hr was milometed by this powerful Smorenici r who aimed at his restoration, besides which, all tie- Catholics in the country were immorally at inched to boon. And it we, very naives' to suppose that by their fears the stele of thoscsince were 'reposed oa. But the persons lOW acted at the Revolu tion, to whom we owe all Our laws and liberties, eutertioned opinions respecting the Catholic relogios trite different from those entermised at present. Ow • former uecasioo the No ble sod Learned Lord bed quoted the optimum of Locke sod Lord Son on, hot be (Lord Grey) believed that these illwhiowv individuals were nut exempt from their pre jedwes, which were perhaps at that time josoliable. They eursulered that time Catholic religion inculcated pies dangerous to society itself, a doctrine which he be , lased no man now was disposed to credit. Weed the Noble Earl opposite had, Ye a former occasion, absolved the Catholics frum any such principles; sliee•fore on • that ground exclusion could no longer be ntaint•iuel. If this, then, were the ease, were we nut called on to en emies what were the eh committees of the present time, which required time continuance of these etioqeshicatious? Ha was at a loss to keel. ou what principle of jiisitee or policy they could be ssaimitaised. But the Noble sod Leotard Lord bed stated That this was the Aral times proposime le Magee the disabilities of Catholics hod Newmark without offering some seenatier. With respeet honsell.ler (Laud Grey) would beg MI renond their Imrdslerps (if •ny hire which fell from so 60 4' nifiestd ap individual stead excite their sateutons) that easy years ago Medd, that soy meseute of relief, in ender le hp smialreiriry, should be onseesosossod with moats's. lit coosedered they were valuable, not in mobstssice, but In alone. And even time Noble Reel (Liveries I) had sail in the lam that if he could cowrie in the general oteasei• of relief, he should pre fer it unattended with is estates foe that they vivid not be productive of any advaniage. But lw did nut now contend for a gepeeal measure of relief, but to restore the C•tholte Peers the privilege they hail eaj,led Inure the Reforotaticia to the period of Charles 11. There were nu securities at that time but the totality of those who enjoyed the privileges. But then, says the Noble Lord, there is an 111,110111117 is this; it you adroit the Peers. why exrlude the Como 1111 l era Bet lee (bird Gies) contended, that they might stop short at soy particular whet as their •neesturs had done. If it was an sumnaly now, the same anomaly eIIS , YII from the time of Heavy VIII. dowu to the reign of Charles 11.—(Hear, beer.)—H• should trjotee that that anomaly had bees done away altogether, mud that the Catholics were admitted to participate its those pi Mile-ger' which they might possess without Moder. on,. ailh "voit‘il• to the State; and their Lordships were called epos to du 'hit low which their ancestor. had duce, and "'bah experience bad posed not to be detrimental. He could out me by what mode of reasoning the fear of future &ugly could be ar gued. If the measure was likely to pioduce that effect, it certainly would be no mean objection, and it would nut be commun. with his principles or practice to disguise Nis me. lives. And whether the present Bid would advance or re tard the great question which he hoped their Lordships would one day ',suction, be was convinced it might be parsed without danger. The Noble and Learned Lord had stated that the principle of exclusion had been roortlueed by the Act of Union with Seethed and Ireland. At the time of the Union with Scotland it was undoubtedly provided that the Peers should take ihe oaths of supiesuacy ; but what were the words of the Act Valli otherwise directed by Par beat M." He found hi the Act sow before bon a marginal ✓ote, the band•wiitiog of olsith be could tecosuise It staled that these elletations were meant Dot to weaken bat to strengthen the *venders— Tbe LORD CHANCELLOR bilged Oat hie owe wan might not be produced ageund himself. Rut be weever, Ihr Noble Earl would nut wish to gu through tool more of them. E.rl GREY contieurd. He said if he did go through the whole of these times, be had no doubt he should Mame considerable information; hut hr was not without hope that even there be 'sight Ind additional argenteme to fevalpmed that view of the subject which be now so feebly advo cated. Ile reetellected the attempt which had been made after the Irish Uuioe to remove these eliaqindideatious In 1807, wlieu a proposition ..s to.dr, fonsited In jeettee sod policy, to admit the Ronne Catholic. to hogh offices is the aimy and navy, the Noble and Instead Local and °Merl inuently eased • dower and represented 11.0. e who sap ported the measure as the war.t enemies to th afar. • Whet!" said ihe Noble Earl opposite, waulet you n g ore to the Boman Catholics the most diner...es of all pneveta-.4t0• power of the sword ?"—(Cheers.)—Yrt in a few slihrt yea; that very Administration had raised themsrfervi rd thiver granting that very power against •hiell 'hay bid raised clamour. He would thee IPA the Home. after hay hig nrs.n.si the army and navy to Roman Catholic., whether tlo• flouter would be greater in admitting the Roman CI. lbolie Peers, descended from a long hoie of' tenement', in their own person' of taibleini.hed a n d is tea , o p ei c., l eharecters, whom even the opponents of the neimeare meat admit squad be an ornament to that a•sembly Gum whwle they endasireeted Pe exclude them ?—(H ear, 1100.)..-H e be had taken up • great deal of their L•ireishipe tense--. (closers).--with the feeble argument he had is offer. He cumeetted that the measure 'hail use its own mails and did nut involve soy further coarequ-aces. He lanteelled sit It it did nut go farther, hilt limit•d as it was, and to the practice of the Consulships, et was in his judgnieut fully twilled t• he runaidered ten its own merit.. The same observation might apply in t h e Art of 1817, and yet dirt the Noble Lod Awl himarlf bun able to orpoie the pre sent Bill its consequence. If the Rill sou helms them passed, the more desert! gseatii. s wostit be hereafter le be diacwomil, east no greater difficulty would Min. He felt that he had eueffertually but eleserrely peepoor int .he snotion.— (Cher rs.)—Ho was persuaded that ohm mrs.nre amid be &deeded with the greatest 'drawee.% l'olier sad jeattre lettTsid u er de. a l ti. l . l3 u . . i. So lli en "e l e el l ' u ' i t i e e d s t u e u ee d hour t il l e err:e . :lF.l:::h ig ii:m " :in h i nm e t a lla o . v t g e t t r b". l . h e at . stigma from the , , seder it to. exclude Ileum Illrssriuuw ind,•id u ets ; why d e . served far differeet treatweent.--(Ctime..) The Earl isf LIVERPOOL said, these Lordships would behave him whets he said he should nert meal them tang, when he stated that it was his Intention IC Sets Ike treslllio no the narrow greeted/Bmm which ie now stool mot e their Loedships • conitieferatlon; Ise was the came tutored I,r i'o es, 'statue on (urines. occasions he had stated by opiume ow the more eularged spestinsa, and prob•bly world have an opputtuniey of doing so *gale, and front re .y consider!. Uou it seemed better to him to mosieler the qneatius ow its own Merits. The Noble Elll (Cr.)), hod ho. Right line. Friend tabu was the author 01 the measure, hail .laied that it was cot to be constdered as • step to the veered measure. He had auright then to 111101105 C 11111 , It 0011 , 11 prowled. the I qmst : and lie mead ask the Home was it iffiest that this Bill shwa] pass if walleyes el.. revs dune' And if it should be the d emus.' of the r Lordship" they Ike Bill should pals, he considered that seething caell be mote iojsriono ha the Catholics themselves, and he itionglit Mat was principle the advocates of the avretal measure sliseli be fur• most to oppose the present Hill.--tlfear, fore he stated his objection' tie the Bill, he salted i. say • few words upuo the histo. 'est pat of the "object which bad bees adverted to by the Ni.ble Eat oh., bsojat sat down; sad Am, with respect to the plot uf Ties times No man ever held the whole of ilto.e trausact•ats in teeter abhor recce than he dol ; no Mlll was ma. tens hi, of tbilr false hood; and it was mie of Ilse Melancholy ten eta of (erne., , that it as tuuLanded the oustorsitsthne, Pei rerserted the judgment of some of the lost wan in those tenets, !battery b came a dupes of the sotto.r■ of th,..e Hero. mei trainer i'"•—(Ch•Pa•-)-4.baateasirm, then. Iles, part of BM amis s eel, he wished to treat the attruitou of the Hen.. Is e own early pail uf the hish•ry. In the mien of Edward 111. begs& the (real work of the llefornission, en übj Cl i• wlsich ft* greatest men pf the age were enneeellif d Edward...l teem ceoded hy Mars, In came reign a enutulete cave etios look piece; the Ceiliolic religion wag restored, and a paucities Comm• need on which it wee 111111 ,7 for b.. Wilma Ire she es-ogn of El Labelle the Petetestatt reheat ewe row talitt.hed; hut it was • grad sisl‘fortone 'hot from that aerial doen to the K. vaniteu the q 'ration was never looked tone • general point of view, or a coon...tom to be made briwei-e the Church anal Seale The con•equenre sae. thee alihunch we bait • Protestant Ch •selt, we were not wined in having • P•oteseaut K.oz. The"' en' " 0 law lowa to compel the &overrate° to be a Piotestat.t. 1, 0 I - refraell hem truss 'Worrying a Calholle wife, nr :toy other eseessibinsec• which could give staid'', he she Protesteut folk. In What. ever manner these came" might have operated, it left us willsout the security this the Craw slosald be Protestam. The cuiesequeace was, that when Jaws I th most in. isteeseeil Nluelarele, who 'vie, I.e b Towed, a eel toms Pre. testes', was on the lichee,' his a... t hree, heir amarest the throne, had married a Catholic Sarre-tee. Cold any than, be miter preposterous. time that? He *Ol peesoaded that all die etrufusioie each li.d enamel, aid all the blood whecla had been said , Originated from the 'rant of a proper raw: armors between church •061 stile. That neiver•tairesee had breu stare °baited, mid et eu..1.1 out H o w 011 euasideeed Iw much that the Catholic Peels mould be esrluded from Par haeneen, when the Rung blown-IL it lie became • Catholic, would be excluded from the shrune.-... Hear, mow fame to the reign uf Charles IL II was 110 "reamed to say, dial became the violence of (actin,, might Issue led no the peening of laws, *kers-fore the lases tr. re bad. The laws might he isetemary, although the caesas whivb led loftiest were whims. Their Lordship could not be 'gamest that some of the best use widest laws wore passed ea the moat • "mum reigns. Poloist* the pia of Titus Oates altogether out of the tmestinie, he wield ask any man was there null • conspiracy existing at that p rial to ifireelisre the refitting of Ilse country, teed wee it rot nem...l , y that acme Safi' guard should be formed to pruteet i, ? Aotl what was it that des amp at the Retulstiou ? It was the great totem of the Ilefolotausi that *Wes change of dynes., we alas oh tatted a review of the whole system, end lb .t which had been dose at the Revultaion should have bees *me at the Reformation, lamely , in rsisbileb 11 cllllll/78ko between Chitral" sod State; mud if the R nt. Rom his c•oe.efeece, was to become a Catholic, he ehuohl be Instaa.ly gripe +ma from the throne and skipped of hl. privileseie; sod he week/ therefore my to lb. Doke of Norfolk and the other Ce• belie Press, foe whom pe , soesilly he 6.10 the MOW re spec% that they had au reams he cienap's As, for if the Rest himself ceased b be • Prot • Mans, he would bte toasted in eke seise sower. lie I,sd also: pa stem) ulna fr I, *rusted that Pretemantiess was a p• triple to the lava and while yet maismie that place/ l. aciiist e.,a.., why .hold it out' 'mired to the alter Slates of iii Realm?—(Chem.)—The Noble Earl had iattl.l4 droamace wothing new, he mil, woofed 111 to tome back to the testae': Elisabeth aid Charles 11. But on that BUNCO he apposite to the authority of experience. • Voider she old "ulna, if he might tall it an, we had 150 )ears of emvasies es 4 bloodshed; ander the present system we enjoyed Ihdyears of tiesquillity mid beer.)--And would stuns Loe.sslssps seneuder all shear advantiges noir Lendable I bad been told that there was now no danger, and that this eutieeillion toold be safely cessilesl. put in the year toe, who would believe that in a fe.w years afterward' tie Monarch would have been dethroned, and the Parliamest sbuli.leed, and elan coad at pi eient anticipate ter cote• goatees of such a measure I He ►bm,t,l ooh part teak list which was lowed •stembh., ',steely, • roirisirliost beers. , Cburth and State, which it appeared to loin Bola Bell tendril to dreads e. He now came ro she 11.1 1 Itself, to r this a an I eiritdidesumbispiroailteurruhirrai.st.ecirnsdndwieheacs.,lipastitsbiparoolp'se.p.spiti.heshl:eodurigtoohthilreiotwisni:ileelted I twr.tnre stout wh set the grannies at reel. When • Right Ha.. awl leer! "'retied of hi. (Mr. P 1414440) bad isetraluced a Bill to Pori,' meat i supportfoal a l a d j t se:e l :B3 u ! g he L 7 b .. .. " , '' . .: b o s i t t i k v i i e l dmi:disg.aitutiwotedsitharaordriimilit:: is lung a gitated, curseete dettessisaisim would In ci:teos vs • :--,- I' • . : ft . I • - . ma imegridoe. However small the 'emu., it woo i . ,''l ~.. T lib lib' open and broader path. If lb., admitted tl lb Isfereore wept inevitable as to the Commons. i ' •r fere jostler, as it was called, dune to the P 4 1 Selleiralles must of coon he done to the Cow „ 1ir.... _, 9be could dualist Ike probable effect ? They said could well understand by what means on a .• She, troubled with religious seal, might then, by seethe, to effect a monopoly of power is his 1. ' t , . MIIIIISM to lbw Gathogefaiiiliee. and how his local ii . • might •Las turned te the formation of a party in ,hi His opiCou was, that the current would certainly as 1 RV - - .ThervietrisWitilevery view which be *Geld 1.1 t character sad future erostempertheir es d( the j ref f e lPr j l i et beeyarty spirit worked in both the I tiederieg (hal . Parliament meat have had airoug i . . Pawing mad confirming ths Rector's Bill-ro I t t 4 esteblishm,itt c.f./fault semioariev, sad the act ' !rhos is that boele-ssad preferring, as be i . noel character and learns.* of lb* Protestant , a Protestant King and Goveroteer, he mu '•' UM be reed this day three months. ... , lord ERSKINE said, that anxious as bewail for 'Ref Vii more so for the inlet MO or the Protestant 41 • • 40 .. `mbeets. de world perish-he would rather suffer -Width could be indicted ti• him of bodily or MI . ' • 'fife, then du any shiny to affect the Protestsat re ..... _' 4l fem of government. Did they propose to secret . . ' "1111111 e from the dangers of Popery ?. Let them glee 11 I. teers their owe. They could net pretrial that the, • 1 4'04 thoiluriest law of Erased, The Peer. had b. •, 4 : ~....o.c. ill the Bill irbiell egeluded Popish Cot leg Idea ad their retooled had eetered soy one's Nblll get urCherles II which was pawed girder the I alarm of Me Perth Plot. Mould any map in ti V '''* be believed et' the reality of ibe Popish Plot, c Ml/1 el t 1 the attack made lira tie wateetoo ',Mg in illii.d by II ? Tr preamble of thot Bell, ptieredhege is she Imperhireeut of theffo.d, all . , • Ali fbar diserery of Tiles Oates; that wretch, • ' eiNglallfriike exavisioatioe its the Horse of Lords . ' '4ll l llle itelesion Bill was brought up The Cam Lord Stafford epee this evideeee fur high t Maynard, who wee afterwards Do dieting ' .the airs of the Itevoletion, marged here for i t . ' 4 Mitee. Km he ' , entered out to say, that they bad . . i. iclair,,, _,. 1 ; ad foe she Impeachment than Hie discovery • . . Maynard said, that the grooods of the tap - 7 lest the Noble Lord don the credit sud t ~,4 41•• wittiest, iehom deorition was taken, and ear* of Sir lidelood Godfrey, oho being will .., r ... killeidtreql. 11 imam or from the serequeet ens. 1 C ( • Mr re Brio, was arrested sod taken, and then f gem wagoners, which the law imputed. But so enti VIM, &raider of the festinate, of Oates before, iterst Maynard said, fin they owed ',ramie to r , 111m1 for the dfserery either than to any of the Imo j . -Imo; fur If God Mad him disposed the heart of (has 41/11WIPT . hettemeoll. It could oi,ly have been koowo 1 1111/ • femora. 11 %rangy/ ate set of God but the issiigati .revel is °Mei, tee they found oat live years a abets- she wrench Iris cameleted of platy orders 'of furtyssinee weebotradieted Imam -iliidl Sal al strength sad Indo.nce of a I gibe abide if them barest sod horrible men, ' imitereily pawed the dechisoni Bill. New be wo dew his support ef the resent Bull, if any Nublem , May that he really believed Oates woe rut guilty o f p • • :(Metite.)...-Mell, trot, there mar Ito oilier 'lndere I - ' dieilld. Mir happened Sew after the Berle ima ? tin gram of the Legieleterelbet estisiog LA 1 - -ha erred OW Abet of that corrupt ilea illegal wens hi was bowadailited to he by every hoist matt Millbral that the- tiveseiereere of those times were a t .801110681 Me ibellehthieg tre nor Enehishio Bill, ins . r ./use age Mei living acted set-larding to their best , , Illidielleriemims. let look at it re. The noses I t Mes..figiereme, • the• 'woolen brew., were the elm. • AlMie terse see - DM soy moo h. hive them to ' 4.llded she elegeasstances the same ? We're they h. di 4804 easecoseir to the person of the Duke of Tot abrevres amino' I. detail, either from el . • .Jete• PiNishaberet . Ile fee fear eireerketanees' 7' GIL the subs required to be tubes by other Mere repealed' with retire to Peri,. He then I . -, 1 1 : se. si ribe deny t• be sabre by Catloalis s 11l eery of which were more impartial--A - .. • 0' ' 'Erne,. she Oeaad and Petty Jere, for lostenee- ,. eit calholies turd brimingl. d with the maw* of dm ft ' . immieweetad elm ore the Au ore( ' bodes 11. vieiost P weesets 4 sed Met system Poplaiserileg iota Dewar. me Queen ell peritete, *hies were repealed or June • , p that Att. ear Catholic Par who would take the • itabsevibe the declarative contained 'veld be rained g aloe Act of Charles IL The Nine Hoag w e e in I • where any erne Mee .sh•vild take else prescribe! sellagiasee' wan helsl•grd and loyal 'objets. He e .- Alder asinine meek frillier, if roger were to be al f 'ell, Mae Me Bill breast' theersowe eve. to opeaing I ..Alga all 'Mem of wool within the realm Hr th.•og le Arno* he insist of hoer( the spiritual supremacy .s agegiriliag is the oid law. whets meets more talon • Allossease were made by the Act of Geo. 111. on s i efiternswieiging flfe temporal supremacy. He e . -..gbeit Bill as at set of todimiloal jasmine H flay rating one -of the roe& measure of .1: Ammar bat this-ara *Gaul. Of aster it would he • ' . abbe, Seer allusion had her made to Ire). .. rut wished more fervently isorsthat maestri resit ; :' • 1-, %bey were could beep at Lease ail rims they co. 4 4 10 tbsrelplessooless they .proved that this really I a • aim sushi they issleataireed to them, and the 4 I . lairel• they rammeled ter the proper 411•41Vetif of et,. '0 , • The •LORD .GitaIIINCELLOR prayed the fad. ' I Meg Luedehipo.. Ug bad sera a great easy HI !gager of . twenty . yeses that he hod sat its sit 41101 1 11 1 1 1 10 similar 7to this; he matataiool sit ' 1 .11111100 imaated, all rim .carcoesioase most follos I'L .! Mgt asesswee, art they ruled have ow groused . , fader' any thing ethielv.ereglit to he denied. 0 ~,algateat difficulties sf his hie had Meet to the ise - ... ildt fur differing Ger a ,eat ens wham intim& . egjoyed.-who hod dorm bias the boomer to coffee it L It l i . SMlher from that groat mass, whore differeece of op • f urged him to door rooms, soy from say other per .1 . 1799 and 1100, till title time, bind be ewer heard rty 1 Mimed to the cookery of this-lit great remittal , 1 z hid-shat if the Bomar Catholic mind was to be irons the Protester sled was got to he list sated. He st r , Ms eerier of himself if he Bald Jaime tiered I i'.. •• hits imenowitieg pesweled he knew that she , Pretest god Clonal sere ream. He could sever dodoes a gemerities were from any of , the mike men shoe t. , antsy of them Larared mid nespecred all ever el t , err retreated asessuer like thee Mgr .4 them .. el 4I•C•ollirv, said all of them resulereel ahem afermo Oa kill of teat year prepard *reedit.' Gond I Pelt sod sir men shield look ore seek i 4 I rierrittes sudiciert to put is piste of the 'l4 .0 she Revolutisio was the most emegiog thitig ha with. One of the.. seirotiiirwas sieutalar wird. 'll sect the Log, rho mast he a Freersiaos, who is 0 out it Pistorissit, 'negligee was dissolved of It rave sot a Protestant; he rib* be sariserled emence of the 8.11 by Catholic blioiefees, are alke winch he (the Lord Chancellor) had ih ' tig, hold. That was his only security. To be Irisest out say, but of he were slot of the Hero may it, that it err downright atiosere; he a gash trash in ap Act of Parbasarat. Hr e kla•W hew it .happened, that from 1799 till • ) tee exception of ewe Noble. Baron Mee In lb Were difference ei opiate. made, him cautious '. ' . asig is has owe. than No or hod .me tbsogbt al tbie peletlegirs wikret securiliag ist all the Balls t . bra reposed steno; twenty years, ewe all shut pt'. 'i • I them, be bed new yet heir{ till Ira Bill, of as Pies frog take,' between PIN% and Boma Cloth, 41111,012. He did .tut dewy that then might %trek Slew, fie wished to be nor.stood. lie was is.. • all the respect dee to abs sore presses Is reestiol . • . nreolleeterl heeled bra mice carolled by a high 11/ . I " ed hinge upon a subject, be faterMaeisi "WA that person ward soave very nres•ritable esprvennev. made a I with himself, he said, beim ad. . 1 . ties or feeling to tote/fere with his Illiellatefillity. • 1 . alma had a scut of grace Pad *Warm cord i '1 i .i ' t ' .