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forte, dill it follow that it was right to dc, He was prepared to .hew that the letter of the was assisted. But admitting the contrary, for argument's sake, it slid slot follow that it aught to have been done. Here he must observe, that he spoke of sin in division, in that tease which was forbidden by l'ainas went ; he knaw sooliiiig of individuals in such a question ; woe In the man who would attempt to mike it an individual goestior. The House could know nothisig 5.1. the IKirg but as the King, for &al..* conduct Ministers were responsible. Ile kia-v • Noble Lord would give loins 'credit f o r not doing are thing in oppositioo to bi t M a . jettl% ti,rre.its host that erhtrb Js teem of duty int r.-oer, loon to oho. Ile feared that the healing had been siti.liett to this oubjecr by ti.e Hon. Mover would scarcely remedy the hail. •rhr truth Vf44 not for a moment to he TOUteilrll, that rvrry t • g is. this re=ed was a stigma and a del/redactor' whirls was contrary to former prischsee, and old su..ge mid ruler—them-I—be it legal or not, whether the King hod by law the power eats tended for or not. And how did the qoestion mend ? I 1 id it not been wool to pray by mime for former Qinoms ? hail not this Princess been leinyest tOr till the death of the late King? Bat it seemed that the Co l osort of George I. was a precedent in p o i n t, will this had been cited by his Hon. Friend he way of recalictling her Majesty to the omission ht her name, by way of *hewing that acquieming in t hi s " waive was ua rnillprOfflihe of cliarscier. uo tle t r-mdotion. It had been adduced fur the purpose of heh , tering op the flimsy argument, that it was immaterial re stint Illustrious Personsge whether the were prayed for individually and by name. or moor the Members of the Royal Family collec tively. Ile should sae nothing injorions to the character or a deceased Princes,; but otherwise fro should imitt that title was the most offensive ag gravation of the erioinsl alight which coold have tyre.. off-red.—(licar. Ater., bear.)—But the e of York, it seemed, was tint prayeil for he n: , o‘r, and heretofore it was usual to pisy fur I he heir apparent. Now, he said, that it ac's not at all so nsnal es for the Queer,; sod in the next place. the Doke of York I.as holy brie presumptive, cud. therefore had no title on the groond alleged. But it should he rh. men:to:oil th,,t the Queen WWI the consort of the Phr was the first 'object Us Tire (invite, I.i•d though she was a stobj-cr, that ass at a hid' could he .mid. Site was iavnsted -lilt lilfth oriel:eget, he hod almost said.preroga tient pistil - I , u to hertelf—(Herse)—for tier dighite owl protection, for it might be oatsd that her locos. gonivhs proseeteit her. tiler plate sod coodition v *;-e t;irte ditf.went from these of all other married end she was endowed with privileges above them. Cut what he thonld call the attention I the linear in on a bprelid manner win, that the was the stork in law, and in fact. ta which the country was to l o ok for-the continuation of the Royal line. —(llcar, treat.,—Gentlemen wceld us:demand his argutrent if tLey would listen for a moment, when they would perceive that it was not limited to the present King and Queen, but was to be under stood generally; end if what wit attempted to be dr.ne in this ilmtsuee were done in others, it might rite rise to is die-tinted trscressiors end • civil war. The grervest ingsMity of legal provision and de sire bad been practised by our 'inceptors, not only to yo. rd against the existence of a spurious Royal race, lint th.st it should not even be tainted by tits- Mono, and this was the cariittial point of the law relating,!' to the two beads of the Royal Family. N.IIT let the I-Inure look at whit the Monisters had done; they had done what wouhl. have introdoced that %try suspicion, that stigma which, if her Mo ist% 1.;n1 brrti in aontlitr 'natation a n d mulct ether d icomstances, "mold have produced the err tion.y cf a disputed sliceetsioo.—(Hear, hear.l— .th , ierty at the time of the erasure was not an tte eti;,:hLettrbood of the King, bit the might here c:roe 40 it. Would say man say what par. tit:ukr time of life in the Qiieeis Consort conferred tht. King the right contended for ? arty r;all szy, that his Majesty could jawfrily exercise !':-s pow. r in the case of a Qiit en of the egu sf reparated from him, and nut in the case, or .:I •,:s i!,`.-nrv.-eat in life, living with Into, and with d saia with ctii!,l by I.:lrn, for he • !•• ;'•••: use the Irrn;o3g,.. erthe I .s: ? if dill , :.3!.! not ho deitied, the:, the King bed tic power, 1 . ):: an Older its Council, of eastiog an imputation cHnitaility nil green being.pregrisro, undid* .::e;,;)tin ivy no t!. to he born.— ( I :1;• %%as thorcfure en exercise or prvro ;z ii.ve sviach e tit-ught l'arliatt;,:ttt.eutild not pass (ter. it was I . t.constittitiond and tlangetetur, and the 4005rr .!cps were taken to have it Jotse away with, the b o o. ter tor Purliame a s, the Constitution, and the moor,. t ry. fluvitt!: he, tt t..Y. I,y his Non. Friend (14. Willie:farce) that her sty -ought to waive this Hid, bemuse ult tr.co how siestsable and use. Itil it was that it, ecci-ii.:,odittiois should become so, ta x a o .w er wits a ft; one—why ovilht not his :I::.j t sty, err rit!if•r i ;:. Alioisters. waive to I. point ?—(il. - nr ; y were the authors of olutt was caruol.ii,h.,l of " tVet" " 111 Mr- Brooglinro. " hes? id,eve.l the law—salty should we 1.. called uron to :ha which, if we rito, rve ale rrsdr ourselves. le.t a I. li, if h:s Mejlsty's 31inis hins do. thvy writ nut at till devote tliesnselies ? There is oil the iliffarroce its the world as to which of the p.m.., d ues it. It it nothing for his Mao , tlinoters to do, but every thing for the (.!:tve!,."--(1,,r enr . ; ...... If lo w Queen cosicedeil the "Sits' it ‘ l "l'ule. ahe .:mild find herself degraded sony Sanday throughout the year.:-.(neue.).- 1 ! 1 ' Hoe. Friend said that it -would not be hantru fi.erign 1- wts, hut lie (Mr. Brougham.) dill not 1 .1 , d: if it so-ter rro.prd the Was it ri,.;;.o.ig shot it a!: old be known in every corner of ?—((•het.•s)—se:.3 it no silts:stage for her to be re , tureal to that pl.:ce and Outlet) in lbe gent rdl -Monello's she had be tire uneupied ? I•Ie was ti , it lit that Paslianseut toold out refuse her this, nlifch ass but a bare act of justice. It wasoonteo "jog io favour of her 31ajesty, to shew by exalts. Oleg bow hitter . ", bow moth Hots privilege in dos. -site h a d beers valued iti roomer timers And" here Ice should go bark to Ilse stork of the illustrious family that swayed the sceptre tf these realms. fits first example would be a remarked:le om. Irthould go to she etionknla geniis, she .outer hots - which we derived that 10)41 Ishottl. which. in I. " 4 'undos with ropey gond „object, he most ardently desired eloou'ol be ptererserl pure. oesullied, and outsiiitcd, mud float wkich be therefore implored the House to evert the stale mite Inflicted ou it bj the restoration of the Queen's name to the Book rif Common Prayer. But to return :It was well known that in those days, he meant at the be g in. ring of the last century, there was, among the poli tical chmacters of the time, a conflict of opinions on the question, whether the Princess Sophia should come over to this country and establish herself here. One party thought that she should come over, another party was it, on account, among other objections, or the inconvenience which would arise from vetting sip two Cotsrin in floe country. lint it art... Area .'rein a letter written bv that Moe. to Laity to his Grace the Arlitiisttioi of: Calf. leitiory. hoe high a value she art nn the lovelorn' of her same iis Ow Look of Common Priem ; for she mentioned it as an equirsilmit In cinurine over kesoMig op a Court to this country. At that crisis a disputed rucrearsi tttt was noorehended, from ifi a belief that (Immo 4 . /nem was elicaurageig Jiteut The Whirrs were saaturally ensincosus, nod called noon the Bieetvesis to come to this Calla try, and iii Denim) guard her rights slid those of her CiaOly. She replied by letter. of which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman read an extract, importing that she declined acceding to tie isiopswal from feelings of delicacy towards Queen Amine, but di.. record, on ncrionit of the sresittiy which that mess. sure would add to her title mid the title of her fa. m o o , that sue might he prayed for io the churches. So legisly. cnrnioueil Mr. BroughMa, w as 1 1, 1* ; ht. vantege then tholight of.—(!tear.)—Now, was It strange that the (limes, should think that the refusal and wis'iliolding of this right was milted up with itititinialqlite and implications derogatory to her chs racier and dignity, when she saw that the Princess Sophia had held it of such importance that it se cured the tide to the throne? He conld not listen to the orgnment. that addressing the Crown to restore the Queen's name would lessen its dignity. (/lees.' —The Ministers of the Crown advised the removal, let them advise the restoration—(Lhen-a) sail then all the iudignity and discredit would he thiowil buck nit the. quarter to which it brlumsged..— not on the King, Gud forbid ! Ile should be the last loan to advise any thing, in any everit, which mold in the slightest degree ssll . eet Isis dignity sod bottom, the sirceseity of simintansieg which so the inmost possible purity was most highly felt by then, lint she Kim; hail b.rii adored by his Mieis. ten—(( kar)—asai if discredit or 111014 was to be transferred to any. it ought to rest with those who had been Ow author. of it in the first isisonice. Ile wished that Hon, Gentlemen would well reflect be ft re they gave theiuselves up to au error in the coo viderstioli of this question. which was adinitted by all to be an error, but which. however, premed to ex,•reire some toflueoce upon all tunic wh o h oi l exisre,toal their sentiments on it. When he spoke of the liing as acting never from the impillse of his own feelings or iteiires, butt always under the counsel of his Ministers. he spoke the iiniguage of the Constitution, and when be b ai l ste w t hi s ps ,„ position shortly after rising, the Noble Loud (Cziatlereogh) was the first to intimate his perfect concurrence in the doctrine. But nevertheless at the bottom of men's minds there seemed to lurk an opposite impression, and if the decision of the Ties. emu that night were adverse to her Majesty, it could only proceed on each a feeling, and Gentlemen would vote on a ground which they were afraid to avow. Bot it was a cleXe principle of our law mid consti lotion, that the King was an individual who iti 11. a setioes was Wood by ties; readier to his Boysl d i:trif ler—that untie of the rules which governed the conduct of ordinary mortals were applicable to him—that his ',remold inclinations and private Pol. Inge were on no insporient occasion to be consulted, hut his line or conduct to he constantly regulated by the advice at( his Ministers or the wisdom of Parliament. Great would be the inconvenience of recognising the opposite principle in this respectee'e Suppose the King bad a sister nierried to a foreign Prince, and conceived that she was ill-treated, to. and-bye they would be told that Ida sister wits de graded, and that Ite must make ear on her scentoit. The reply wcnitl be, that the state of the finanees and the country did net allow it. But the present question stood on precisely the same footing, and et be ventured to any that no mats who hail ever lirened to what had been said Oil this subject in art her Holm of Parlionseut, that did observe ullu pion made, at frost tacitly, to the King's feelings. And here were Hon. Members to nay that the King was insulted, if called upols by Parliament to re tract, but that her Majesty was subjected to no insult if called upon to yield,—(Elea., hear.) — This wis his view of that questimr. An easy way was open to Parliament to gee out of the difficulty, and that was to carry an Address to the foot of the Throne, praying the. King to restore her Mejesty's name to the Liturgy—a airy of which the Kin cued not to be ashamed. because it was an act done only on the advice and responsibility of Minis. tees, wined) was contrite to law, and which was at least a ship.—(/bar.) —Tilt:ugh he had already occupied much of the time of the House. be could not art down without att;,gesting one word more muss a topic growing out of the Inst. Why should ;Ministers be afraid to carry such advice to the Rope! ear ? They had advised the omission of the Quez•li'a mow under ciressuistences wholly different Irmo the present. Why then feel a reliiciance to fro ore ii, When the state of things muter which it had been done was totally changed ? What was there to pre vent their receding losiontably ?—(Harr.)— Let not those Gs-oilmen eutertson a suspicion that any thing witch they might do in accordance with this euggration could lead In the disapprobation mid disci tvnanee of the Sovereign whom they 'mead; that Sovereign was too just, too generous, tar mug. ilmjimon.,, not to acknowledge that such advice was not voluntary, tout it was extorted—(Hear.)—and that it we+ the stise of the (louse which cuni. pelted his Servants to tiger it. Let lint his Ma. je..l)'o Alinistirs—though in this be was Teak. creitrary to the wishes of his Bight Hoover. able Friend (Mr. Tierney, we presunw)—let them not feet dolt • nitt•ily and honest dit•cliarge or their duty would curt them their placer.—(Hear. hear.) Fier," said Mr. Brougham, " I should like to are the men who would step forward to succeed to Own).— (ekeert.)—Shew me, I will not say eDune bold, but those rash, audacious, headstrong, copilot's ii ilivid us In. who atifild dare to take iuto their hands the helm from which they had beets l'erninved fur an hont-rt and coo—jemmy's discharge " knew that his of thr•r duty. —(C 3.)—tle . Hight llon. fiieud behind (11r. Tierney, we be newel had chidden him on a former occasion Oar uttering sentiments similar to these; but that was in consequence of a misapprehension of what he had said. His Right Hon. Friend, desiring to she* that there was no want of young statesmen in this cmintry—(A boigh),—and that if the Present Go. vernment went out of office. successors could he found to them, had nit!' un chi.bleii hith the other night, as if he hid raid that if his Majesty's Ministers hid ),twit their olitrit, there would be no others boand to take them 1t... he bail to, said, lie agnitiar th e i s aer eg ta o f party, snot rontriny to his opinions. Bait wh a t he had said was very different; he shooll repeat •it this night. and he called on sow man to daisy it. Ile said, CIA if, for compl)iiig with the sense aunt wishes or tiso. trosoo, Iha preserit Ministers sls.,iilil Ise deprived of :Mar officer. Ile faunal to are those men who wont) aerwlit the place. *hick tiny' lia.l heat fir their 011efilt•Iltl• t., Is• sIeiTIIVT • •-• (Cheeriug.)—fle 61 1.1 fain bone +list from this unlit those. painful prehnsiisery discuss' 0000 • would be got rid sir, end that step* for mit *rideable adjustment might lir devised. It was for Grit. tletnen opposite to concede the, tonna of the Litorgy, or an qnivalent, if they could discover one; for it rested oh them- trjecllttic e.sis 50 31 " I out a otebstitute. But he fervently hoped that this would he the lai.t time he slimed hove to tirldetsa the Howse on preliminary questions. fir -wr e sted the Howe to consider the position its ahi tjt 113,1 13 7Wwere.Thee were going on Ilene from day to day, while matioile of drowns the unite wart subject to misconception awl misrepreseßtntion. end employed for the purposes of factions discontent. Ile would nit say that this wale thine from day to day. but every day's delay increimil the danger hunt it would. Fee himself. Ise begtzed to easisre the House, thst he Lad never felt snore real or acitte,p . that: in differing as he hid been obliged to sin on the Pre sent question. from so many !Inn. (?, send., for whiwe apintuot be entertained 5, itTorT 'sincere nod high respect. He weed n dory t o those with whom lie stood connected iii that Finesse, front which he *bomb) never swerve; he nste.l a duty hir country, to her representatives. to 'work out of doors; hot lie owed ooe piramonist duty, by air faithful dos. charge of winch. he tt ttttt ght be should ttttt •te the best interests oh hot country, her brinone, ettgody,, and prosperity; lie menet the duty which ree•y prefessionel man owed his client. Ile eutreate.l every professional man in the Ileum., but eslieritilly Iris own frielol4 on tlw spine to believe that he a is nit .t deeply impreastal with II sense of that elr 4 m. .I!is felt that he ow• tI her alai... l y a partintorint ditty, and that he afar nut at liberty to ;mien In the elattes of party, Or ',iv other claims whirl, might iaserf..re with that. If he could stiffer hisnrelf to he iiiffienced try any oilier consideration*, if lie could /vitro(' to views, or make ill?. ioterws of this illustrious leer. soilage a mean of popularity. lie should desni-e hinvielf.—(Hera.., hear. keDl-11 he did not ter her Mijeity t h at mime which appeared to him the most likely to conduce to her honour and hap pious,. he should 'Omit to hear the contempt and odium of the cnnntry.— (Cheers.) —ln saying this, he thought thet trot ric4y he fetid himself no compliment. lint that if he could act other. wise, he should reduce himself to the ineenett of traitors to the inistres• whom lie served.—(('beer:.) —Her interests and hotionr were to be burned to before all ',clime l owly or tioptilsor considerations. If there were any who thought that • ditforrnt hue of enedort wsr respectable, he ite7hreil none or their repeal. that dt.yother course would he popular, was • libel on the people, or at least the respectable part of the prop:a. He looked not for the perilous rift of the popularity of the other portion—tie had never itcslrverl it. He altentil sit down, therefore, repeat hi t t' w71,1t he had said bufore, that the advice which be rare the Queen w-ts that which appeared to him the most In etweduce to for ern booster and y, aid the tranquillsry and prosperity u: the (-wary, notwith standing it did nut receive the tirprt.hation of some of those with whom he on ordinary sweat.toos acted in the House. (Load aid long tin. tin Nert chetrfn:l,.) Lord CAIITt,CRF.AGII st?ittleti the f;-one that lie was not so vain of hits own po• , •Prn al to have select. al the office he was about to tit! as n metier of pre. ferrnce on liis own part. He felt the rtAerilty of rising while the IMpresvion orodueed by the hlnn, nod leaned Gentlenrues soldrers mar free!, upon the thyme. Thr Mot. and . Learned Gentleman lord &Wai t ed the saute talent which he always brought into a debase; lint though his eadeavouring to ‘ , wranar:e the Mere that his character of an edifier of the Q ueen was riserzed in that of • Member Parlientent, was an intranre of remit irmnnity, yet while he last Nothing of the first, he must in the Urlities of that miserably— The 1:,.b1e Lord here rinsed, in ronacrenee of Mr. rriniglinin, who appcarrd to he greatly cxhau.ted, the and declared, that he would Trait for the retnrie of the Mot. nod Learned Memher, emu-tiring that prom', es his elilenetrr of iiiiriaer to her.Majeatfmnitid he lie marls etemite ror d is what he (I„,cwil eastlerrnrb)stmillil hare tome,. mill to t:te Hume. Toe Noble turd then took his seat. Mr. TIE R A Ey suggested, in order to sore tiOlPs that there was as Elan. Member wim wished ill expetslhis stotionots au the quest tan.--Cries Mr. Enniirs.") Aftrt same luttlier delry. Mt. Broughton net appeorin;,o,-- CASTI.rtiAGN rielarrd, that ra.her than proceed in bit etnessce, he *boob; with the remission of the lions*, postpone what he bid to ray till is biter imur of the nicht. The only mullion b. fore the (louse was that of his Ifttnuerabk Friend (Mr. Wi!herforce), and that he did lent noes,' to oppose; end it was solely by lice speech ief the l'onnonshie aed Leagued Gridley', en he lead keen railed up iu order to explain points sdranced in it. Mr. H. then tttiJetbieti the flooae for Algot time. front the scullery. He 'k a pott' M'at the propositi.nt f r the Queen's name to the Liturgy 1153, , inadmissible, inasmuch as if *2l a total dr. par! urn trunk the Ist.nts averd on at the commencement of the recent tseivivistlows namely, bat the Knot was not to 1w called ma tv r-f7rwl, nor the Queer tr, adwil any ham. Immedialvly übtr Mr. fittournso rei•ened, and Lora Csmnbene.smn said a kw weeds nut audible he the gallery. Mr. BROUGHAM replied, tharit Wif 3 perfectly Wl precedented to requite any ale:Eber in continue in she Iltistar to Innen in atwitter Menthrr speaking;. It wat the ntore kepi, by raw, the N0 . 31e Lurd knew gh at h e had born lalocuring 'awl:a- uce►ctc t:iso; tier it tlae Lord CASTLEILEAGII raid, that he was perfectly ready to lir I Ay what lie had in *ay to any period of the night which might he:ter putt the I lon. and I.carued flentlnurts ; loot lie 11111 thought firm the line of arguincut which he loot taken was to be met only by himself, and is MM ie./11110Si bk. for then, to ulukestimil cub tither, or the House to perceive the application and strength of hi. (Cold Castlereagh s) remarks on et-rialto points of his speeer, unlcsie lie were present. In such mows, a great deal was to be inferred from the imps - . seine eh ch the traria of the reply produced on the nth. r par v, from the manner in which the &we/visions wire received, and the express:xis of countenance ; and lie W4ll ileartily convinced that if the lion. and Learned Urntieinsw were nut present while he replied to hint,lfie Rouse could sot see Aid conclusion ttcy ought to COON to. Mr. BROUGHAM maid (vie understood). That to iteconeasodoto the Noble Lord he should take hi. place in such a pan of the House as to bear all his ohecrvatiuns, _ _ _ Lord CASTLEREAGH then proceetleel. Ile was very sorry that Nosy thing could have cecurred to is,- terrapt the perfectly good •ademplanding that prevailed be, tween him and the Hon and Learned Gmtleman„ He hid felt nothing hut pl from the intercourse and ettlllllll,ll/11.3. I . with lite Honourable and Learned Gentlt num, prep ivory I o an adjustment of the matorlissiste esislitig dif ferearea; and he had wow, need a facility in emulations, the oltsee•sion* from the cleeroess of studeretatooliooe snanifeet eal by bias. , The artueilliun wail mow completely under Ike view of the and there was Redly a ',Mal or the rpeaturet nut within Hari , ennoprehensien. Gut t h e point t er which he s o ,,,bei w ine:p a lly In Mei tit his,„ remarks, was that breach of the orpiment relative 1., OW, restoration of her Majesty . " name to the Littorgy; beranoe that had terra represented as the one point a lock boo 31a. jvatee Minster* might easily yit 111—a.. the is.ie'erave eon cerebra which the Government nai4lit rot soi!!. tootle midmost any oaer ig eg of e u mi a r e aey on shvir osn pail, or of dignity on that of 11* Crowe, but with a real asecv.iton of dignity In his Majesty—us the me, which, in ...ono iirenen s( 311 er11.1131n1113 eunstructson of Isis, mot a:1 minx twasiilera lions, ouch, to he iuseerled. 'weaning Iliat iluestnn, he was peifectly ready to meet the (lon. sod Learned lie-ate. man tea the grouted of the erpionsiloility of Ministers for their as •.re,iss, his Ilinjeitte;• he Mae prepared to pat et nn the broadest emoted of respoussibility. - tf, oo the principles of Ilw constitution, the law, end Hie practise uf forms, Ilea''. , , he did hut establish lu She Mum that, louder all tit , circunistanre*, the ndeice which Jo and his colleagues hest 'tern the King wns that whirl', as good subjects, they owed him, he and they would diesel condemned. 'Mutt respect to the law, if it was ass clear that his Alsje.ty's Ministers had naltiug to do but to substitute Ilse name of the Quern for that of Princess of Wales, the ilentily being seen, earn teething would have remained for the Govern. mem but to ever's', that ditty as a matter or comae ; and if the liw were so clearly settled not a step lakra by bet 1 1 81.8 j, vies Government wonhl imlieate a disposition to Hesi tate at the adoptiou of that step. They had us err sherris any reltocanee in the Douse to a. knowledge Rost her Majesty was de jure Qacett of des rraho—(llror, hen?, hear)* mil all the proposition. mark. to her Majesty 11'30111d we:a t o n Ike ha.* viol that she should reneunce her royal choir:te te, sir ri4lNs, brit truly abstain r• lke rartrifewf of th e l a tter. Ile begged Irate to deny the iutespretatoon uf Ibe law given by the Flom. and Learned Geutlemso; he. 4:rnicil that the worth* tot the rtottete were peremptory. sol , be owl that the law dot not eple,prce upon ibe Criss/to the iseeereity of iosertitte in the latoirr. , y Ilw Names of MI those who tell within Ilts stesceirttim of the " Kong. Quern. and the Royal Progeny." And s hen they examined history, they would dud thst s." fir Croat this principle being in v 'viably art, d on at lat aklishea law (ions the Mine of the Act of U: sti.cretson h ad been constattely exercised by Ilw Canard In nicht& or unlit she name, its question seemed. ieg to it. ewe of tlw fewer, nictaieres of each case. He protested agaiest the doctrine, ohm it no.* eettel tsetse stigma us every ment'ser of the Royal 1 . .81114 to Lave been included withia she wane.. prayed for at one period and excleled at &anther. If they looked In other times, down from the Rreldistion, they would End That there was nn established principle of selection, bat that it was arbitrary, and different at olliTereut time*. The iesertion of the name was given to several mot "ratan Ilse descAption to 11w statute; fur example to the Prins-rag Sophia. The Noble Lord Well adverted to the fart of the Duke of Cumberland's name baying been expusged hum the I. Morey. by the direc tion of his late Majesty, st the COMlllellltellktlli or VA reies. He quoted the case of the Comma sir George 1., nod of Prince George of Denmark, the hoshand of Queen whose same, were nut iturorlacel into this Prayer-Iwulti sad in fart there was nn end to the cases in which a distsie. lintiory power had been exercised. The 1.14111 glleStiern e- Core was, whethr r on Ilia present aleciumm that dlacretiu:t been wisely exercised? The Dam. snot Leatrued Geolltm on Lail said, that Cie erasure Inn' token !slate is contentylationt of some proreedinza the %mess at law, or hrforst Parliament, founded on the paters rot the table. Against thin oliairwalion he protests,: it was not fonudeti in fact.. So far from its twin{ then the determination of his Majesty's Mil'iSieT3 111 propose ass invertieatiou into then paper., that thry had rerta:ed to every expeilieul, marl ward every effort to avert that yublic calamity, mist it was only when the Motwis reforms! Ma' they footed them selves compelled by a painflil tonim of duly tn adriczi his Majesty to lay the pagers !afore the Moose. He hoped that he and bit colleagues bail stever cenbouuded charge with guilt, Rat they were then i n pm-iessi tttt of information, which, if true, established the mart grave rhoulei 'gooiest he r Majesty, If was (ne them .to rnosider, whether (awe: possessed of that information, which ion thug but the a ha vt , ca of the Queen could excuse them from laying before Pasha. men?, they sbutel.l call upou the King to teopeire the people to bestow their prayer+ ou that illustrious lady by name, end th e y had corns to the coueltinsori, that it .41, nut eletakteat with their duly to give inch advice to the Celia n. The lion, and Learned Gem. -torn, her Alaitmly's legal adviser% he conceived, Ism: thought the - i:ttra. lion of the Liturgy a point as light as stir, far at first tinlfling hail been Inwerilmf it ; thP rig! is e Q. , r1.11, lie jnre and de facto, wan the primal, helot the other had been ronsirlered vital importance, upon what ground they hod suf fered the forms to negociate ander a dritetion—.. (Year)—lie resold not say. 1:e regretted to vity, that it had been ton much the character of that no ,e t t e i a tt ot , t o forget its every entre of it ail thug antecedent proceerhogs.—jHear.)—fle mast fairly nektlowledge that he had felt question to different from the moment the charge Was halt! an the LIMP. Tie Nftble Lord connotive,, that lir had not !teen ten mingles in conference will) the Mo. and Learned Gentlemen, before they agreed on the havis, that I.k Mej•sty could not retract Ail thing , whirls he had been advised tit do: but now. lb.: Ilea. and Learned Gentlemen wished to bring back the question far beyond the point at irshii h they were before agreed. If the Moss. and Learned Gentlemen had thought that her Majesty's Isononr could not be wowed witin.nt louring her nave in Abe Liturgy, he milked, why lie had not applies! about it from St. °mere? but he bad not stud sine bag on it, het he hail placed the whole in the alle g sd disrespectfid treatment of the Q Yeeti by hit . 1 1 611,- jeaty's Servants, particularist:6;4, he Inhered, the flannyerialt Nlinister. but wet one syllable oboist the Liturgy. lie 'believed that this was so after thought, which, as an advocate. the Hon. and Le.srited Gentleman r onridera himself eutitled Its' press into his service ; hilt front the character of it. be thought it came 1. a very thfferetst camp. tie must complain of the manner its which the Hess. and Learned Gentleman had represented to the Flume, lit at at tit,' divettasico, hinicelf (Lord Cll,l:ereagh) touruhled I , y accident ea the word residence. and tint 11,.(1 looti..;ht Litany into view ; the. he contentieti oda not it catolid retire. sernattim ; but that the lion. unit Lettreril Gentle man should hare gone to St. rioters, for the pur pose of *vetting the ;ivory which every ore dr. premed, and yet sliotthl never h:tve cointitunt- LAIN' to her Majesty the wl.ule of the propouttott, was nut a little extraordinary. fie nut satisfied the Ilotiourable and Lean e.l Gentletnan was ton able an advocate to omit one OPP essential to his duty, and it' he had felt the question of the Liturgy was it vine gun tr:n. it wag W dusty which , he owed to 14 client and to ;oa Malt sty's Government to tr:tug it forward ; but he bad brought foritard three lithe+ peirkli, end that elle lint among them; had that point bete pal at first as a pert of the boos, which, in venation., &inane, ea a cardinal point it ought trihave hems, it world have terminated the negoti ation at once; but he did nut believe that it was at that time its the lloa. rill Learned Geatkman's ea ad, and he trilatr.l that the Ilmme wowed ant wow *ere , .6 1 h him in 'thinking, that it ought to form a past of the arrangement. The reason why he (Lord Castlereagh) minaid.l..l the porstimi of the Cfneli as otilferent now from artist it was helot, the papers wire !.4 'I on the table w. st:iit, lit; then what( ver ro. in.mrs erre :throad were merely reasons's. istel not fIOIIIIII4III. ratline.; but (min the moment that information was. roue in 4iiirate.l. II lot-erne nisi...alter in his liojeo)'s G9vefOtOrlit to,setraci ti..y sieps lakt it postedloq, every thing nut int .!ce i.ig 1 1 14 It sap open to :its Majesty. 31 twisters 10 I.:vise. Ile. - Fad felt that the tiniest ism of the Diar=y was lint 4 question wt law; if it en nid ha,. here au irersiaered, tint:. verioilientasiii.l.l . .. bare f a ir it ir. the cresAest vassibk retie fl, lint bit .trlisas k ',. .ti,.' i alarm hint then ennsiilvid it aa a tietesti,ol of d,.erttmorara pirwqr, and lied "denier! his nejest) affolllol2l,7‘ and. wit tiosit , • ramming the irloraialons :ant on the latle le be 1.me,11 trail - . ionesierible for Om Ministers of his 313j-itty to h" ,, i'vit, wine.. -advice. II; thor.fore.hie ; o4nta'.(hrevitinsesit Went, nut Called upon , I. better,. any thine, au.l glib House takil Mtn its esmaideratuto the reaollislSPiettiroOlii by her 514,0; Ow wort a iy i hir::e egaiest „rely hail 4,01,i feta tt:o powers and Might deal with the 'lathy ' , toroth% to the slew ,f Him. Friend jMr. ‘VillterEorce)l bet itedivr'fti 'I ' Howie oosihl aril fume to - nay declaimer istorli wort l . " the *tamp n f nwiresth use.. this hilliels iisipiry lien;mo ..! fi.M, and that they avoii.l.ho iainfiril he S. . i iiio hat iiiktor 3 0 the evoilry ferry chimer of avion'tsig iiiiiireAfrihtisentrinsitS! . Thausth the Ilienitere I.4.44eurme l lAeo•iktsje k t; therk,lhis: nerrssary oviwnlineure It li{r enmity.: In ibis rool , lo} letteSor lie hislie..y In Parlinamita, he trusted the tines,. istiold *Poo , - they had mut itmenterea a pertiaacionsiihronertmu la 11141414 to I!lllVitillify, Of any streire Ott intrii.lo,' .titieltUirts eill! . cans: thiratline of the serdwriation. S.§.. r t of the sylimiss- . 1,04 pf Me Crown (elm the siosootorn lab , ,il Ito, they, "1014 be maid happy hi lie enabled to join In Ihe tinleseoririi in avoid that 4110.1 sistafiel,ie.aniry. to justice, in generosity it ens inrunshrut on the I,lOOSr. if the fictive ilionyht it .;:o l i, 'Went 'eri'lliler post:ion to cure to Os wishes. to put tlio most favourshie romatenelion on her roof...sine- '..1( (tontine,. d the tiutde Lord) his '.:.j- tit ' s ...Ito` i•!)!•• 1 r ['Cede.. :111 si , ir v ill'azesee Itirinselves, lint will not a;r.n.l an r rehsf to I: r M•ij , sty, end if ire roist.l rrtrAet oh.- aihrielii whir!, we have ::iseii, Wn . .010 Oil be lb , bmeat Ilii li ll .7. that . . r cirrr mlytrell t.i , (Tyre,." 'Tie N•rlaii L. , 141 5. , 1 be wet faemirable to the pre:owitioroi or his glow. fokend flit. tram - force'. hereose it did not at all invoke any part of . Ito. nieri ts of tEr case ; :ant if lite 'poem of 1...r..Ti.rr5at1.M...: o f a tt em pt,o e lit forget a 1.11110 1011 ft fr:, l'y ..r.'SMOW.I-=ir -. points of great impuslance ware Ist he 0 , 11 .-.: htrsinttl ap conditions. the I/ iusr mitho teil - I,lisu so ivy hope or. sa t is ,ti•facton y nett he iiii•n'. The;can ise or mileoNit Is 1111110 *1414 . . teary tlihig sia iiiren•i.iinit nO. 1i..• itOntot• a the C o mte .. ID giant, 11!.1 from Ow cLUIIoWI le fur tete tOllll.l 01(1114 reer.!e. ... ~ - -- • Lord AeCtlll3 tI CI .uolee it) the I loono torreented :re from elistisitnly healing il•en ' heat re.lirtire• of Itt her . .. ri l to he lic4,:echioil, in sileit be .01.404 1 1 e/. al epeaking from no arthor.ly bet hie* tiwn.• afletioteiii !awl there was no indiv,.taal who felt nnirenrillowt w the pahhe ineeptepsiion whirl awaited that limner , Ile prof-seed, wits the lion. 3lerel.er fute.re.finewe, to ; fiavie on other object in vi, • than sub.:tont:o inuitire ; * he nieint to cast no n gection ir••liers ; fins what:fie thr poolosi. lint Of Out Hnn.fl-ullenein! why it was nimply 'lint toe nitrite I r Aj Med *11011:.1 !worn Inother lwjurad, and Ibis with a vivre to be entitled to a pertial relief. It wit tune ate hie tine of eutintittfor the same motion tithe Hone. at he one of which he had cieen notice, but he had heel' withheld by the dentine/ of the intliret en !'let nerennite air: roeh e are c re on all aides. Ry thesennoi Yen fir It•d Nom et-0ri01e...1-oldie ' this thy. He breged to call the sittetili un uf the Finn,: Is. roe point of his nun. and Learned Frten:l'a eine:aeon an• cells., t o which the Nohle lord had •ttectineil no eerily. '4'he, point • that lithe w enneinsio an njoitioeithal er-nl.l hr advisable to eratiste her MoriestY'. name In tie f,iterry, deire that mir.llt he ihnii%lit rln.r. l l l , (Ifni to MINIM. ga, h ot certainly not to hie :11pjeety. • lii. ;Unjust/ kauf,'liiialitlego, riled only Nadir advice-.•n the ;ilinisters, and to them oaf), the blame belonged or •:.-!vi,iittz hi 1110;rqy to mind flirt (bereft . . name i I . thie rty. Th, Hnu. Mi rth. r (Me. Wit.' Iternieer) had made a fhere'ref,', belfe"lf hr ennsiderttl nettle is the etureene; he sint,J, thee ender the central Otiose of the Morel 'cannily, sin e resioviot ►r+ already swayed for.- if she wf s , poi aim ono IA %Oast,/ ; voif if it wont -11 be an lort , seity M unlit him Mny.iya tome, iris eontil the !Inn Mesell , :r sireee that t areehthe 'itedifk:•ith oil omit her 51ajeety'a ? lii. Hen. He re..e who he Omelet here thiseelit winthl repiraidoe‘sion . tosyrownil the maple of little tantnent. It wan hew* tin stainecdfn. forting that licaMrated the proposition of his I:ins. rriettat would manumit a further injastiee to the Craerai het Fey fronted the Howse would teener what land been done nisi. justly, rather thin rerarvere in the pane mares. la nth. yo trig en the Order in Cathleen, he contended, that it was villa In remain in Court. He bid letters fru.m Lleer.snot On that it was nun-effettiose, cur in :nary parfibee her Slajetly was now relyed for by same ; he willed thee' fore Wt.! !es fer:ntel hew Ole Church was in eraiirseehat mike was neglected. Ilia firm opinion was, that it wan a /Ulna cfreetive order, Red imight be di:inherit withroi nesse:fyaw , and, in point of (net, it we. so disobey( ul. The i.efitft Lord reftreet: In the scalds of the Order in r-ollicti. total' 'greeted the am:no-ion a the names f the I's lit-e end ern of Wales, foreseer in fart three erre nun loner •tn/ viols ;vermin'. lief it did not r , o n to shy too ithesil4 hysit the Qnseen; and he contended, that, nnitew the nein r. e'fnt • men might pear fir the Queen by tame, es e 4 -. for the liior—and he couid, if it were proper, state n.ll ,•. of one elerr:rtian who had determined, notil ii' y tothority. to COOlielfte to 11111 so, consider-leg h- goof:one, : irenswittent with the 'principle% et Cliriv.u.niity. if, =van sett again what mode wins there of none-eine obedieticrto e order? The Noble Lied now proem-di it tit read this:wet nom a biter of another Clergyman, expicesnie the: PAD'• M complying with tie eider. lie dud not mean to ray, that tire staleincou. he had read were 4 easmi: mar; the asseadinent A hot :a he proposed lu sure; but he did think it ruttier hard, any vesieralile body Of sorts,- fhalioltitr. mall either-be oreher.l of disloyalty, if they refot,eiLuieeiie mice Is, an bottled tird:r, or by confuse Mint to it et Penn-sty to their ideen rfeht. wan mime proof cf "te *prig* wit.. whir!, the order incited, 11-1 it •ntenuleil to sicir e there wits nu jun-Col:rum' and no LA urey. he :\ -4 I bed said, the !loam. i!•il cut know the charges e u - contained in the creels bag. Granting that the or al 90 misinformed, it was nut loceissislent In as!: lei is her "fie jeidy'e name shoal., for rl-roit in the • she might never to have born removed 'f h•• '-:elate int.{ demented the app ointnient of a Committee. a:nth an cut been chosen in another place, and added, that if the Ile. insurable tientleasan's Bele:al/a alauuld he retried, her Majesty had lii tier mats it than actruie.r , in a per manent diserere; bat he trusted that Miniiaers.!eoflil be compelled to retrace their stern in the inctanee of the Liturgy, and restore her Majesty's name. Otte :clue. Sinn. Friend (Mr. %Val/wenn co) le• toned lo I. lot, • adeirled le login e. The lien. Gentleman had f .ot to Ilie !louse and to her Maj , aty's advisers lb petits or the inquity; het he would ink , if it wield nut Ire m o re c0n 5 ..i...1 civility in address this tunic to his Majesty's Ministers, rather then to the Queen ? The urn of the flue. Gentleman's prop. bb was, that the Cloren we. Is. give up every thing without equivalent, and be esinsidrovil that if she were cons irled she comfit out be inure 6 , 14.11:f1t than ate would he if site acquiesced in that propusit;on. The grown, on which Ire rtionlil real the asiendinent whirls hr priipunied tn move was, that it /tat a specific tact of jar lice fur the obloquy whirls his ' ftivjasty'e Acacis. had east upon the thieve The Lard e.macietioul moving to lease sllit the wu.riln in the motion el' Mr. ' Wilberforce, vel:it h recommended her Majesty to fuel,,,,e the prmusing of reeling points, and to insert tusteati thereof, " Thal the Honer is hilly seneible of live objeet iu s t , w w e b her Majesty must entertain to the relistquinhing of pUifiFf, iw Wil'fil she conceived her konoar to be involver!, end 111 cf opinion, stint the ing.riiiiff nit her assure in the t a ilor g 5. ti would he the most effectual mode of soaring the douse the pima of these public discussions, which % who/wirer ropy fie the result, most be distressing to her Majesty's fee::ngs, A Vier rent I-, '''''\W • - . - , ...• . % .1 4 r' 4 • ;;• ''' I - ......1 . r ' b , .A. , : ?.......... ....- • I .(, ( v ; .:lnteqr. - - • - k A