The Sun. — London, England, 1813-03-03 00:00:00

liltirlLS of cue retition against the return of Sir John Owen for the county. of Pembroke, were brought up, anti called over as followsh--- Rothat itott Leigh. S. Graham. •A, .1 Fo%ter. Hon. S. Hoed.' •Hon. C. H. Bouveric William Rasbleigh. William Leader. Sir W. Berkeley Guise. Loud F. Osborne. Hon. Cacelidish Bradshaw. l'ani Morrison. Henry Willoughby. George POcuCk. . Norninees—William Dickenson and Benjamin Hall. The names of the Committee ballotted to try the merits of the Liverpool Election on the Pe tition of General Tarleton ihOinst the return of Mr. Canning and Gellert& Gasooigne; were also called over, and consisted of The !lon, Newton Fellowes Sir Mnrk Sykes E, Xnatchhall • I.:, Finch Hon. G. Abercrombie Lord Kensingtonsir J. Anstrutli4. Hon. W. F. Mackenzie Hon. It. Boyle Bernard Genrill Dunlop , W. It. Cartwright. General It. P. Heron It. W. Newma n • Nominees—Lord Wm. Russell and Robert Smith. Sir PaitrieLL postponed his moticn relative to /lama in Ireland, to the 27th April, . , THE CATHOLIC QUESTION. The Order of the Day for Abe resumed debate on the Catholic Question having been read, Sir ileizrty PARNELL began the discussion by complimenting a late Right 'li on . S ecretary f or Ireland (M r . W. Pole) on _the 'candour and ho nesty of the speech delivered by him last night, which be declared to be most deserving of atten tion, as coining from one well 'qualified to s(cak distinctly as.to . the leadiog facts of the ca•e. the then hulverted to the charge of violence which had been urged ,rigainst some of the Catholic body, which he defended - as having heen,tatight theta by their opponents, by their endeavours to put down the Catholic Boat u ; by the. arrest of Lord Fin .;al; by the prOserutioos carried. on againSt them had by the restorhion to power of an Adminis tration known tp be IhAtile to their claiths. But eveti were they to. hlanie it had been justly said that their langcutge ought not to iiiiinence the House, which Was talled'on. legiSlate, looking . to nil 'the bearings of the subject, and not to, the inteinperanee of perhaps a'few „of its adVoCates.— , Ile denied that the sense of the Protestants of En . gland was hostile to the entertainment of the Ca- . tholic Claims.• On tint contrar , ,•,' there were re;- titioos at:ainst them from only three English coun ties, which had been coiled together by public re quisition. 01 these, Nein and Oxford were de cidedly inimical.; but the ,third, Cornwall, was eery rrpoderte in tare petition, and also sent a ehnnter-petitinit in their favour. From onlv nine EuOish counties u' r e there petitions from one tov.ht in each , ; 'three counties had tran s .. Mitted similar petitioos' truth two toiyns in each, and five counties scut petitions from a greaternare esf towns. result of the whole - was, that in twenty co unt i es t h ere were no, petition ci from the laity; and in twenty-three instances they were from Lord :Mayors, Ardertnen, and Burgesses ; and front .Scotland, that there was not a Single pe tition. ft was not ; therefore, 'correct to say, that . the majority of the Engli...h people had petitioned egainst the (atholics, for the very reverm., be con lencleclovits the true state of the case. Before he entered upon the hobject of tkeiritill petit ions, ,be begged leave tcesafa feW Words on the subject of secorities, This had "been the only question be fore thew last,SesSiOn ; they did not tfiscu4s Whe ther or no they should grant contessions to the Catholi,zs, but on what terms they.shotild be grant ed. iiht now tht‘ . " . • rem again called, on to tan saelt all the rulihisii They had thought was remov ed, and which iu the year 1793, had beliec'ed..tO he laid out of the way. They were again brought- to' the tenets Of old'CateehiSins, w hid) had been exploded, and to doctrines which Lord Liverpool,, two years ago, had put out of hit consideration, as hearing atria The question, and Pereevd bad last session considered as never forming any good groundsagainst tie ess clainis.- I,Yere they ethos hack to this tritimphhut state in they had again' rituoved .the rubhidi, lett th flight, so that, they could sit on tlic.ir 'own benches to, bear the arguments against them ? He next, adverted to the puhlica tions by the Protestant eler:.v within the la :St ten veneer, i42r';:ll he exceedine,ly 'eanideinned. ,The MAO I ') hf incohi he said, 'at' an annual visita • • tirih i lihd pronounced rathera bad political pamph iet than, was leis duty, it' good eeligiois•eh aege . This produytian, he charaeterked as tinfounded in its statemeats, iticorreet in its quotations, and isomer h it crloted from other hooks gave garbled ex..' tractl. , : It was a work of no light imoott, for it, charged the iloman Catholics with holding ohnox..' jolts doetrineq, arid with being C011Ce1•l1e41 iii the reiw n tlio of Ir6s. If the author wiry prosecuted for these assertions, he was sure he would be Con.. victed.of a libel ; for which there was a precedent in the, e':ist, of Luten 'Wright, tried before Lord Kenyon, for the pithlieuti o n of a work, ef. titled " A Fair 1. cp:'C',i'ht:aloll rif - the Catholics," and for which dattot: , e., were given to The amount 51101--if the ohehee of libel consisted in (Hs-, ttirhH , ; . the peace of an individual, how much gremer it When it' went to disturb the petwe Or nation. He ellothot. that the publication ,Is-iii c ;J tier liatl untitled should have heen 'wide theLsohjecit'of invesr;gatinit iii thrtt House. But there Was another o,, , ,nieut still more dahgerous than the publicht„ which then metitione4i —Ali, the Petition from Huddersfield. That p a fi t i ou corha l i ne d one of the vile-.t midmost un fhanded end ninnies that bad ever been published h:„ciost the lichn.in Catholia Said the Catholics contact! it t meritorion3 act to put heretics to death. Absurd fiti' sucli st ea lumuy might appear, it was et:titillated to pro.. dhee very' had eirects upon the :minds of a cat hilt el 1~ of people ; anti time House fi;t nimbi its t 11;.ive all6Wed any petitioniwhich con, thine,' such in itter„ to lie on Their tptile without be. ,Towing further considerations upon' In the tbecti An 'c at ern had been rai.ied about th e c!l:!,..ch bt: , ing in Ottnger,, similar to ivl)at.tytis At that time Parliament thotight i it so 'wants, that they took the matter into considera ti(),l andmade it the subjett of an Address to the Crov..n. Lie then read the account which'Burnet gi ves t o' th e proceediagi at tliat tune. stilted that tilV, cattle of the oh , ch 7 t the -conduct Of the clergy,. Who the TAinth of the people WWI " the terror' of 'ilmigniary thrittlT, 1t h* their (the, (lergy',s): conduct i.-,i.; the - only thing that was: ri ally dant:serous, was , the came., of'the out, cry in the reign of Queen Anne, mid that which was raised in our :own time originated probably from a cause somewhat, if not entirely sh»ilar. Those doctrines of the Rornan Catholic Church Whieh'ivere CS-teemed most particularly dangerints, were, what relete to the persecution of He=retics. But whether Was the Hnuse to forth its judgerent 'On these doctrines, from'scraps,of pamphl-ts,.and paragraphs of newspapers, or front the hooks of the Catholics themselves, and the declarations of foreign Universities ? If it was allowed, as in common justice it would,. that the latter should be chosen as the true criterion by 'which to form a correct judgment on the subject, then, all that had been said, and all that had been' wrote, to thew the terrors of the !lowish religion on that point, was absurd. In talking of the arraege ments which could be made re come to an adkjust ment of the Claims of the Catholics, Sonic (ME.- colry had been started on the subject of mar riages ; but that was a muter of minor import ance, and nothing bad been said about it, which made hint think that some 'means of proper ac- , coammdation . might not be found. At all events, when compared with the other parts . of' the plea tion, it Wi t s o f s o very li tt l e connequeuce„ that it could never :istatid in the way.. As to the great influence of the Pope, which had been so ate', mentioned; it had not been properly peoVed that any such dangerous influence existed. .As a proof of this influence, an Hon, Gentleman had cited the Occurrence's• about the,oath in 1791 ; but its all that wa:s said on that subjec=t had been ..so ably refuted hy an Hon, l aronet opposite (we suppOse In tut ant , Sir J. (;oX ll'ippisley), it was needlea : for him to notice it further. Aaother" circum stance which had been mentioucd in proof of the ioduence of' the Pope. w;,oi, that the Montan Ll tholic Bishops made till! Clergy instigate.tae against . the Veto. This he positively deified. Much bad'heen said by some Honottraltte Mem bers about tbe,oatb of Roman Catholic Bishops; but no one bad been able to say that 'the oath was . inconsistent ;vitt) the principles of loyalty. The'oath - bad• been, indeed, at one titre object ed to, on account of some intolerant .principles which it was supposed to Contain ; but in conse: quence of Some representations insole to the Pope oh that subject, the obnoxious words were left out. Another- charge. *ilia had been brought against the Catholies was, that the doctrines elf their religion 'went to 'exclude the professors of any other religion from salvation. This charge was repeatedin the face Of contradiction. For a contradiction of it he referred to I helast words in it declaration of the Pope.' Yet it the charge was valid, it could he proved,that it wits equally so, as rigarded tholoctrinea of every other Chord). A tenet was to , be 'found in 'the works of Calvin, in which it, was said-- - --" Extra Erclesians nulla nulla peccukrum remi6sio," In the 39 Articles of the Church of Eugland, there was likewise a tenet of the saute kind, Another rea son which had,been given why the concessions re qyired by the Catholics wits, that the exclusion of Roman Catholies'froin political power wag one of the fundamental principles of the Constitution, as settled Re.volution. '1 lie bishop of Lincoln had gone so far as to say that Mr, Fox thought hot to prove the incorrectness of such an asser tiwn, it wns,only necessary to refer to the opinion which Mr. Fox had formerly expressed! on that subject, and which was'quite the' reverse of what • it was said to . be, by the Bishop of Limadn. The': same Prehtfe had thieved that Mr. Ji.e.tice Black stone was also of opinion that the admission of the Roman Catholics .to political pot,‘ er4v as sistent with th e principles' cif the Constitution.--- This quotation was, hoWevO, quite as incorrect, as the former. , The. charge of, disloyalty,' which is been brought against the Catholica of he'. Ned, was most unfoanded. 'Mr. Piti had declared that the rebellion in Ireland in 1798 writ not aCtl tholic yebelliou. And in the rebellions in :this Kingdom hi 171:r and 1745,.. it could never 'be found thgt the Irish Catholics had tiny concerti in it. 1f these circumstnoces proved that there was . no disloyalty among the Irish. Catholics, m an y proofs raftheir loyalty could lie brought forward, - As ,one of the most conspicuous of these, lie cottidf not 'avoid noticing their comi ea in the 'American War ; that alone was sufficient to prove their boy. 'lhe'treitty of Limerick :was still binding on the Cronth ; and lie thought that certainly the sti pnlations of that treaty should he renewed, and should be strictly complied' with,. Wiettamtatt Jiablo.e. spoke against the proposed measure of referring the Claims of the Catholics to the consideration of -a Committee.—... Cinch a CoMmittee would be composed of a limited thimber:of the Members of the House, who could have no' proper means of finally adjusting their claims ; for hi the Committee there would 'be no advantage; except indeed the : dubious one, of Members having the they yge of speaking' oftener - Oats once, but then thy tt ould_be 'deprived of the Valuable tssistance of the Speaker, The debate WiMid be protracted in the Committee,. without:, any decisive mensure being adoOted. No practi- Cahle plan bad beep mentioned in the debate, by„ w, ich the claims could be acceded to . With safety;. As one of the securities he re,i(!ired of the Catholics, the domestic nomination of Bi-, shops had been mentioned. It did not seem pro hable tiatt. the Catholics would agree; to this, for if they refused to agree to the Veto, a lay they would object to the domestic nomination of. Bishops. .p - pon the whole he thought that going into a Committee on the subject, was. (ithe might be .allowed the expression) a , cowardly political measure. It was shifting the responsibility front this great body of Parliament to .the shoulders of a. few Members, Ile thought that the best mode that could 4(., devised for .having the nuttter set tled, teas to, have a bill brought into the House,' in which the privileges which it was proposed to grant specified. Sir 'tV, Scorr said, that the arguments on the question had been well stated in the.speech of an Hon. Mentber, Which was not its rentarkahle fbi' the' exquisite talent which 'it than for the manly candour of the sentiments whiclt contained.' Relectaitce had been displayed to ac cedelo the proposed measure of going nett) a'Com- Mittee on t=he-subject, but .that: reluctan ce pro ceeded from the,appeternoce of danger winch was seen ;of clan/NC pot chimerical, :•but restl He hoped, however, that he stated ,the unanimous opinitel of AL:Ai - wise when lie said; that the oh. ject of all parties was the sect - H.4y of Church and State. Ile could not think that ;here was no danger in granting to tilt.. Roman Cutholics poli tical power t o th e extent which they required. Not_ that. he Would have the principle of exclusion carried to too great a length; If the h e of persous exclud e d s h ou l d becoMe too large,. he wophi Bare measures tak en to abridge it ;A:lth fairness. It was his decided 'opinion, that Catlio: lies should be exchuled from all those offices con neete4 ;vide, the administration of justice ; from every that related to ecclesiastical Matters, and from the higher branches' of 'political power. Theadniinistration of justice .could not safely be trusted to Roman Catholics ; for, admittinz the highest professional integrity to be found in Ca tholics,. he wrathd put the question, Whether any person who might ha vie a relati on in the Chore)) would like to haveany.questiou s abriut tithes or Other, ecclesiastical matters decided in'a Court of Law by a Catholic Judge ? was 'sure that the .would never a ll ow it; He would not sa.v that the y Legislature might riot be very well nhinaged by Catholics haring judicial situations ; but if such situations were entrusted to these, many cases would. occur, in 'which' they could not possibly exercise the duties of th e o ffi ce without exe , ing jealousy. among the - P,roteStants. With respect to the dice of Lord High Chancellor, that of ficer , was said to he the kCeper of the King's con science. Wo u ld i t b e safe to trust the conscience' of the King to the ke e pi ng ,o f ,a Catholic Be 'sick, the r‘gious,conce rtis of Oa ingdom ' often come-tinder the consideration of the Lord Chancellor, and it could not. be expected, if a Ca- tholic filled that offi,ce, that he cOuld, in the re gulai ion of religious tWatter, be actuated by that spirit which was so nte.essitry ft was impOssi ble, epoeciolly considering the doctrines of'the Catholic religion on that subject: *Upon a tine consideration of these circumstances it appeared. that it was improper, and very dangerous to trust oliceS of high political poWer to the management of pershnS who prof esse d a rel i gion hostile to the State. .The antidote proposed by siune Hon. Gen-:. tleman,‘, Was, that the mischief would be diluted , by the inferiority of the number of Catholics who Would' be admitted to. the enjoyinent of power, • Inn! into Parliament: This Wits an antidote so very impel feet, that it, was needless to say much ripim it, so tibviotis ivas its imperfection. In mentioning thePetitiotis against the Catholies, whichbad been presented,' helainented that the, opinions of the Clergy 'had been treated with shameful disrespect in-that House. The laudable zeal which-they had displayed •in watching .'over the safCty of religion, had , been turned against 'them, and they bad been acettied.of iliiterality and intolerance. Ife hoped that- be' would . never again have -occasion to ..reprebend -the conduct of tiny Of the Members .of the House 'on that, seore. It was not :possible to . deny. that' .there was a hostility in th e 'disposition of the Catho _ lice towa r d s the Protestants. was vex de. turd. that'a man, Who'thonglit that salvation .Was . to be Obt t ibied by those Who professed :. the same. religion with himself, Should. try to: ebnvert all others to that religion . , and wonld also feel .a dis position of hostility to every person who refused to be converted. The Opinions of/the Catholics . of Ireland vverg more ti my Catholic titan those of the lohabitants: of any other Catholic einnitry. The reason or that wits, that in all Catholic.king, dons there was some capital town which was the seat of :theCatholie p;ower. All the Contniunica tions of the Pope were, of course, first sent to that town before published to the people. So that in Catholic kingdoms, 4he opinions of die Pope went through What he would call.'a strainer. The, case was so in France and in Spain. • But in Ireland I beerminmineations' Urdu:, Pope came into imme diate contact with the clergy and laity itl their t,iost timpialified state, and without being in any degree softened: The natural consequence Was, that the datriees of 'the iriSh Catholics were Whist violent. It would be . necessary to iii quire wlt'at were the dectrines of the Pope Fur that purp ose he wou l d ' go at once to the:de clarations of the Pope himself. lie then react se veral extracts fromfeelatations by 'the Pepe : the substance of_ which was, that : the Catholics should not ally themselves with the profeLiors of any 'other religion; and that no religion but the Ca- Should be tolerated. These documents were nudoubted.; and be was surprised' to have beard an Hone Baronet make some imputations against their authenticity. He read another extract front 'a declaration, the substance of which writ;; that the power of the Church was above all tetuporal controul, These being the doctrines.of the Ito man Catholics, as declared by the Pope himself, what could b,e said abeat the toleration of the Ca tholics ? It might be said, that these,-though the opinion s of the Pope, were. not the doetrioes of the Irish Catholics. Ale would be.glad to-kno t . wilco they had-diselainied.,theto'l. It Might be said . , that although the Cler g y tacitly acknowledged them, they .were disclaimed by the Laity, but of that there could not he found.anyevidence. There iedeed, be amongst the Irish mtv Cathoiies . Aeineti of ohilosophi ca l sp i r i t, of l i terary attain waits, and liberal principles, - who did disclaim this doetrines, hut it was to he Interred_ tlntt the - .great body of the Laity' would follow the opinions:4f their pastors, I:! , Specially 'in matters Winch were sanctioned.,by such authority as the head of their .Church.: lie could not persuade himself that it • was safe tb entrust the Ro. loan 'Catholics of. Ireland with high political. power. lie' IttturiVetl the necessity of excluding them ; lie regretted that the eountey was deprived .of the lienefit of their talents, arid dell their laud able ambition -could not he gretified. But as measure of self-defence and of security, that ex elusion stilts pCeetiStirr. It Vt'ould he. said that if it was necessary, for r 1 3 arety-of,POtestant tares to Tx,clude :Catholies 'from political power, the :same principle- would , h o ld in Catholic S tate , 'and rn them it would be 'unsafe .to, trust. Protestants ,with . power., Such ryas his - Opinion; and he there fgre thought that ttirsting Mr. 'Necker with polltreat 7 potter 'had , 4cen uleaSore highly impolitic. Tha .dangerons influence which the Pope exerted in the nomination of th e el er , !: , , o f Irehiud, the Clergy tieemed not disposed tO. girt , up:. Indced, they could not giVe it up without resigning the I ;cullmentat. principle of their faith. There emdd, aceordiag to their doctrin e - , he no valid admini-: Stratioa of the oarraments without, this nOmilikt- tion. If they, therefore, were 0 sera's an C lomat 'upon the Pope. in this part olliii'ln rity, it would amount to an overthrovrof their faith, at least in one point. The Pope , lll ,', thinly now under circumstances in srlitc. l , l !! pretnacy as surrendered in fact. His s_Pig r his Arnmess sank Under his necessitim DO,' the proposition of disclaiming his power jeolcil with cOntempt. The flight Ilou. a . s i s i,l i ti t l i l i o ( i 3 i t i t: J. Cux llippesiev) did not propaseany wt! 1 . 1,, G ., rat t.in) , or the wort hy t3 st on , il , so that . if, they • went into the Committee( ~..o friends i of t'lle p t7tr v a i° st i l ls re l . )l . ° Tr i.s l e .w .9 e i se snetcit'riite ; ' liable to be considered as.the slave, 01' 0 7 toe_ protegee of Thionaparte. 4 He 4 , 45 ,, t c . ' down in Prance. He Was not at 1 01 , ii P°tuit* ire cat; rub'. He sva s in the paPri 1 course under the influetree of li t ionapmt e. „ .. , subtle andolingerous tyrant was to l''' ,;',' i : against by, all means.. - And he would .14,.,.1'.,„ no danger wasto be apprehended fto I''lti tliate connection" with so dangerous a fqr ~,, said', that in forein countries the Protol4 ; Catholics lived amicably together, io t t , l)e , c o anent of the same civil rites ; but l' i , t " e n ;po"' tries the national Church was -not 1 , 1 ; 1 ,701 s i t i i i ti . it u i c o i n i ments - were despotic, and could 'O l c ,,,, t i t) alit such community of rites with lesl3 . 6 the religion at the vigning - pima i 74 0 ).f 4 CtAlle.).l.ellitlit.iyi)le:SiedieVSily, Coritat numerical majority of Catholics; evt i j i i t ''' where Were the means 4.10, 4 ! ing authority in those hands that ,o , .ti ' co - t j ; uttisille°s ti i " be: ' , 6 s . possession ,or property i '. Could :lay 'pt fild to_ - remore ' the evils coMplaineil ° . (l oi the, exclusion of the Catholics, bY l i e l td tr milting two strong parties into an eq u ' ll i s o ticio for 'power.? Could it be thinicil that. v a conteution the Catholics :Void(' natur.14,4,1 their-religion -i n con t em pl a tion ? Ile ' ft , d . ll ,,i t sr vise them to loolt7to other 'countries in soi' to el attempts Were Made. What was the etiq lij? edict of Nano/. That expedient only P ve f;i struggles more ' fierce that) existed betur c idt t.e o ai t . , el demand)(e i l 1 t . 1 ; a of t going into the Committee lie could tiot ( c 6O see any prospect of a favourable result. S' ) .' n o d i denten had in his opinion adverted with t `:',,, - 0 . asoerity to the Petitions that had been l ' -. .# Tflese Petitions should .not.be disreg o i ,,0 came from the tniddle rank Of life, 10' ".' 00 competent to judge of a subject so vitidll c''' i jf . ed with the interests of the relit:jou that ,l ti ,, t s result may l a g ' i l o t l y c hi ' s g t ec a i i t i t i l r i t i:t i . : i . t c l b is e .a s c e n a el i t :r i : l i i i t t t: e t . c a:i ' il i l l: : t. , ,t, ; l l than idle parade of good will towards thf ul fe,tlo appear nothing- more hi the 1t, ,01 1, they may after all reject, as matter of . ',, 1 tioti in some end scorn, what "wbuld be proposed r° 111f"- Al l COMMittee.. .He did • . thatlt-' part of' the laws hireiqi ., r: '' (! not mean to say, „00, not practicable. ' If 'a Itight li o n, tielltr .:3.) ; l aP, Canning) who — brought forseni. ( l a nioti'' :l ' rrt „, last Session'upon' the subject was ;!riot''' . ', l'• pose any regidation, be should have 'do e i i,',.,... fore, and not reserve now as he did theai.', ; ,* i , ! ' ertion of his talenti to a late hour o f tilt;'' !;,: , " In truth, al the Gentlemen who had spoi'.4o,' question l e ft him ••:i still in the ; I .:r k. lie ,':. thing' in the measure props t i C l " .ecitl - 11. the questi o n 1 , t i,t t , past: it. . ~.ot e ittlft, 00 Lord CAsTLERtAoH rose.. He wz.s., c , l ot; e0 1) . spenk his'se»titnents upoo the pr . cs ol :, ,) i e VO by the suggesti on of hi s .1-tight, ilontolo.oo. fi‘fr..Plunkett) . . .This su . '• • ... 1 ' he C 3 . '. gge.sttot - tit 4 . Cza bwio; alit! he must tiler, , ,-.., fair. ,- The House might be assured tn , 40 o' 4 with great pain he differed upon thi" u e .ol i r g e upon a similar one, with many of lii f c loo ,-0 , 16 and in.-the. Vote he had now to givo , , i '„, v .‘,-ttli wh 9 tn lie formerly' cossets:Ted. i l i t, K eier' . l . House would eettvited on that occasion, its upon th r . ,, 1 01 c . : l/ Merely by a sense of doty, was what lk,. e , 1 , 1 0$ l''''' prone now Clan ever to sulfa personal c nes riol o pons to influence his conduct upon °l is ts ( ' diso, ? ° '‘ give him 'credit 'for. J-'' 0 - o i,let" t : because it was his wislt that it s hould ", e ci , ea with temper, mrideration, and eu t i";',:i fa ill, the reproach insinuated,. that he loid l' he O w ': question was, duty to the question, and to his cottUtrY: „tit Il' 9 °t submit. He never felt, or ever O a T ' this'.,. trouling principle upon which any Atia ll ' ior to t' t was tei'be formed. The question ought 1 ,1 b e Id i or aught to be taa`l e '.. o , l l , t.,. di3etissedys a party question. It siu' a . lite re,' free to the examination of any persou l o ibli i ' in it, or otherwise it would not be Il° ti iiiilc . being- it to that favourable result m0 140 1 . ' 114 1 resolution of last ...SessicM. 'Without tr'` , f il.'"' in this way it could not become IA WW I °f t g iv ( itil' )Ut if discussed at all, it should be discuss e d "by by i t : reference to party, and allowed to pruc ce .ios k l it ' own law, uninfluenced by any colisideralii4iat its merits. . It would not be r i g ht in pion tio.:l;i'iti a breach of duty to other public wen, b ile 01.11: line of conduct they have [' a r gued Iwo" o il j ect ; but a:4st he flonottrable Gentleman ( , ) , V l / bt:O . (Mr. Plitnkett), in a speech which had no , 1 1.,°1: - .; surpassed in that House fur eloqucn cc 811 ."..ct . meat, had made some allusion tt) 106 C° 1 1 : 1 1 ) " 1111' '' the question, and the period 'at wi lich 11' eel:tett mike, lie may he a 110...ed to refer ~r t oi t I period, anti the circumstances iir it , " c ' ei 1 . to juil i z,e whether a taste for office, or. ' l , : ,,V i , ! public Alla, had been the iutiuencing prl",i',, ' hi "' find his colleagues. The Admiiiisti',',:i„,' w bleb that ,Right Hon. Gentlenoin ,fornit".,-, ieell' -t , tween the.Mernheri or it. That ditre t° , l , lo : , was lormedou.a known (Inference of pi' . re !:.,, liave been knrovr; to bini. The rueO ur .`,o'l! in coutemplation upon the subject the: 1 . 0 1 , :„.. , abandoned ; :tad they no,twithstanding, t o "-;: i " "Iliac. TIN" reconciled such cooditc-reL„5,1,,, !AMU:. of public tluty, and consented ! ° 1 0',,.i office, on tile g,romiti that each irolivt:' t, il.':.[ act opon the subject as he thoirglit 11 '; . , fie 111 ' 1 :: . fi l i v e i r l e ig fo i r t e t:t i l t e .s l V l t s nl j r n l o l t a b l. e l'i ( s .4 : l7:ll:rit)bl'ilj • er ., l; !t i t e' n iPtitll) 1 ` l, at present in power were placed in "!‘ i at y, i i; . r 4 consistent with a reeling . or Publ ic ' : iti crit,s'il4,j. t respect tt; this measure, that his ~ , .,..:t 0 ,1,..c, ii it - t, l'aVOklrilble W-4; WaS no secret• 1 ' OO ,. e tit. l o :pl) 't before consideret: it preclusion " from . , sesiO ot 4"? I atton of it, was reoved i n the lar l .„ t o li r l m Parliament ; . and lie 'nen felt it lii..6ll:l:oor.ff,tl:.' With lefipeCt to it any Course which w ore tilnents ;night dietote. He di d lwr ', ii