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rich fans . which in* jei "limullf bad csndidon : it would be mews advisable to assist the people upon other oc. r[...a le e !h is so, opi nion. b e wise u e=mil • begs sum of meaty on c a m e " . Pnl i, Il bon, that it might ul • _ n ewer! nen sum , amu_chi e. iueeme rvi. NI J . SMITH r.J. , in explanation, said, the Acts of Pediment to ee ll ' obbo l by iDFIII7III.I A reSt . lll LOI!, te W_N_L ge ot so is future OrN which be alluded related to private individuals, and on to public with interest ; or !as pari. he WMINI fee as to ta :e works stone. drtsse mem consume d wicks in Ireland, and would wish to Mr . °MILBURN said, the bes e fi ts conferred on the cauntria __.A. a , c heap e place to live in as any in the known work , were content s. l'i len tr — osotr to cou d asily be done : labour was excessively Mr. S. It ( 1 he did not intend to lemmata upon the t'' *--.....--: O i l t- test Emilia who were, from the ex - - Houle. Ile intended to lame the discussion to his colleague,' in lo ow ' t -- his " t ol i Englard, should 'o to the re p resentation of the empire, and take no ore ! of this cuuutry, uco e to live npart in it himself, l e ad inoead of w foreforeign,e cose : one in parti:thcuunin'''' '!'hare we re particular,mane dif- but as he was the !Member who moved the' Report alluded to by „ors, be was aware, in te which th e Ri g h t H on . G ent l eman w h o h a d j ust sat d own , an d as t h e O io ie bear upon a respectable lie meant t dißirdty of principle of that Report was dissented from, he thought it impen. snag eiappiWil when at a t t istanee from any torte relief upon tive upon him to rim in defence of that principle, and he was sure O .. . d i bet e bo u ld, he thought , Le off G offered by o H agree Government. If the ( louse would with him in that defence . The argm uent z e ,a,,,,,,u5a were coeferod, people *add live as cheaply in used by the Rt. lion. Secretary upon the occasion, was a strange one; fuelled in in any ether part of the world. With Teepee to the it was that the House should reserve its energies and assistance un ownes, he was awed of the advantages they produced, and it til famine appeared in Ireland. That famine should be waited for ni dr ay u peo their account he wa. so anxious for the removal as a matter of probable occurrence. It was the declaration of the 0 ; h e &nail reinsins of the tax on sale (Hear, hear,) Upon the Secretary for Ireland in Parliament, that the people were to expect object /if these fisheries,. he knew it was easy to say the system of the pest of famine ! " Walt," he says, " and give no assienece to joe l o ck required secur ities to Le given, and this was a heavy the people until these pests come upon them ;do nothing to pre. ditim h y to L i t e poor. lie thought there was some truth in this vent them." His argument would be to encourage industry, assist eery/aeon a nd lie wished the privilege was given up. The the people : there are obstacles in the way of theiradvancentent ; .; otivo a duo cons id ere tion was, which was the most advisable remove these obstacles ; raise the people in the scale of society. ziw, 7, e o b e adopted, and the least liable to imoutation ? Ile The Hoe. Gentleman then proceeded to state several instances in t h o ught the tonsure before the House was of such a description, which the supply of capital lid been attended with beneficial con. se e M would make no objection to it. sequences in Ireland. A gentleman named Strickland had ad_ Lie, J. S/dITH was always satisfied with the evidence of a good minced IWII9I. in dammed, and the linen, the produce of that Need, Iwo a hoet e d by the Right Honourable the Chancellor of the Ex. bad finely sold for 21,0001. in the Sligo market. In another in. aequoo , w o re , b e felt iterates( respect. He was also well aware stance. since the opening of a new road, in consequence of the ex • Jews:dent desire et doing good that dietinonished the Right Hon. penditure of • small capital, there had been upwards of 29 new o rat i o ns:l, but he could scarcely form an idea of the insufficiency houses built, and 3 proportionate Increase of the trade and pett y:deep:tants which he thought proper to address to the House. sperity of the neighbourhood. The lion. Gentleman concluded la the entire of his parliamentary course, he had never heard such with a compliment to the Hon. Member for Medhurst (Mr. John a rguments as those adduced by the Right Honourable Gentleman. Smith) for his exertions in behalf of the Irish nation, and express. lie led admitted the want of capital in Ireland, and that every ti,l his wish for the revival of the Committee, over which that lion. es should be taken to induce a d he di e t capital to flow into Ireland ; Member bad presidd. for the application of capital to the invi. then siesta that this meueure, if assented :o, would cause goration of 'riot' agri e culture and m p a p nulactures. l ar ger loans se be looked tOr as a source of relief. He could Mr. GOULBURN said the question, at the present moment, s ay, for his own part, that he was one of a commission •appointed was simply whether the House ought to all for a further •pant for to lend sums of money to the public for public purposes, such as the Irish people. Ile believed it would not be attended with come. 1 the b u ildiag of churches, repairing roads, bridges, &c. upon good quences so beneficial as had been stated. I ' securities'. He was also a member of another commission, which Mr. S. RICE, in explanation, repeated that the High. Hon. Gen- advanced immense sums of money to the people of Great Britain deism bed wholly misrepresented the arguments in behalf a the en d somiand. Ile fur one had laboured must intensely at this can- motion. I o isseori, and be would appeal to the House, and would ask if they Mr. Secretary CANNING said, that as he had been absent due- would grant to England anti Scotland what was refused to Ireland. ing the address of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Goulbum ), he could ! bad adopted this mode of proceeding three or four times upon not judge whether he had or had not misrepresented the arguments ' eesd secerity. Wit h regard to Great Britain, the Right Hon. Gent. in support of the motion ; but Rem all be ( Mr. C.) knew of his d a d argued that this than, if grao'ted, would be productive of bad Right Ron:Friend, and of his opiitione on this ;ammeter subject, t onemences to Irelatel.• What were the effects of similar pro. he was astonished to hear such a description of his match as the ea ltros in England? He knew places in Yorkshire which were Hon. Member for Limerick had given. The Hon. Member him- bona sod unproductive, and which, under this measure, be. self had argued the question as if the Irish people were raised I o we enricbed and fertile. He was also acquainted with indivi. above that extreme exigency which was only just short of actual 1 eels, new men of fortune, who were not so four or five rears want. The question at issue was not only whether such assist ant, bat who bad become so by these very loans. The Right ance as wee promoted by the motion should be afforded, but Hanarable Gentleman had argued that a loan was not the pro- also whether it should be'afforded in this particular manner. Ile per mode of affording relief. Ile coukl not assent to this argu. agreed that no proposition for the relief of Ireland amid have been moo He agreed with the gcntlenien of the Committee for Dm- introduced in • way more calculated to insure the favourable 'ten. ' 4,6 4o —what was called the Irish Committee,—that the loan tion of the House. The temperate and judicious speech of the was the only just principle upon which assistance could be given Hon. Mover was not mote happy in its conception than Its mace. to the poor. n the matter to which be alluded there was a sir. tam. No measure had ewer beim brought forward in a speech of plus of 44E0001. after the attainment of the object which the greater moderation or with more good sense. flowerer the House moiety bad in view. And he was sorry to my that he Amid night differ from the Hun. Mover as to the application of his pain. in of the gentry of Ireland, he was sorry to say that they ciples, it was rut possible to differ from him as to the principles did not behave as the London Committee had a right to expect; themselves. (Hear, hear.) His car.dout had even led hint to state but notwithstanding these difficulties, he approved of the tune his case perhaps too strongly against himself, for he had said that NW or &dancing money upon good security. It was, in hie unless' he could shew that the affairs of Ireland had arrived at a opinion, a good institution. It taught the people that these debts crisis to which some extraordinary remedy became solely appli. Mould Le duly paid • it would teach them an honesty of feeling, cable, he could not sustain hi motion. Now he (Mr. Canning) sod that it depended upon themselves if other individuals would contended, without going into the question of the peculiar condition soist them ; and they would therefore become mooted in repa of Ireland at the present moment, that the proposed remedy would log the loans. For the correctness of these opinions , he wou ld. entail evils that would more than counterbalance any advantages appeal to tee lion. Friend the Menlber fur Limerick, who was a arising from its present application. Instances had been cited, in much better judge than he could pretend to be. (Here the Hon. which tompanuve deserts had been rendered flourishing districts. Member pronounced a a arm encomium upon, we believe, a Gen. Undoubtedly, as to these particular places, great blessingeOad re. Burke, of Limerick.) As to the bad consequences apprehended suited from the application of capital, under the circumatatices can. from even small loam, he would state a feet ; it occurred in the der which it had there been applied ; but the Honollent• could not, county of Clare. Amongst the many thomiand letters he had from those instances, deduce any general rule to govern the proceed. received oo the subject, there was one from the Reverend Olga of the House with respect to the motion under consideration. Mr. Duggan, of Moyarte—one perhaps of the moat estimable It might be true that en advance of lONOL by the landlord to his men in the world- Ile had stated that since the preceding tenants employed in the cultivation of flax, had enabled them sub. October t h e b oats o f t hree parishes had not been at sea ; that sapiently to produce 20,0001. worth of linen ; but how it could be hunt their poverty, in consequence of the scarcity, the owners maintained, that because it was an advantage for the landed pro. wet obliged to pawn their nets, and of one hundred and twenty pricton occasionally to make advances to their tenants, ergo a loan !bite, net a single boat was at sea• lie did not ask for mo.. from the Government to the landlords could be beneficial, he was ney ; the object of the application was to make an appeal to a at • loss to understand. If a loan could be at all advantage. Noble:nen who had estates in that district. The Society lent ous, the House should enable Government to make advances the sum of 1061., with which forty-two boats were prepared for the to the tenants directly . ( Hear o hear.) But it was his clear fishery, and were remarkably fortunate. The Rev . Gentleman did op inion that the scheme would prove in the highest degree .mis am expend the entire sum he used but 824 Was there, he would chievous, if carried into practice. He spoke with the more positive. ask, sin advantage in this loan ? Was it not an Advantage to sup. new because this was an opinion to which he had become a convert, ply the means of subsistence to 3.16 human beings, who were before and according to the old adage a convert was more strongly ansched in a este of want and destitution ? And after this instance, was he to his opinions than one to whom the evidence on which they were to be told this was a bad system, and it would prevent the people founded had not appeared so irresistible. Two or three years ago from depeeding at their own exertions? On the contrary he would he (Mr. Canning) had entertained an opinion not widely different say, what he wished to gay, that the public nmisery was reduced by front the Hon. Mover, as to the mode of relieving the distresses of the plan of lending money ; and wi th respect to Ireland, he was agriculture, not inde ed in Ireland, but in this country. lie was convinced that if we did not make a change in the *bole of our now convinced that the project was impracticable, sod if practicable policy—if we did not alter those plans which we had pursued foe so rnischievouo The plan was, that the }executive overnment should mooy years, cretin in the present state of Europe were in prospect grant a loan. In the fi rst place, he would ask the Hoe. Gentle. which would pull down this great and mighty empire, front which man, whether the Government in Ireland was not considered the so May improvements in arts, sciences, sad religion had erne. Name with regard to its character of creditor as In England ? The Muds awl which be hope d, with every honest Ines, would still parties who accepted the lean must of course become debtors to the cendeiso to erwartate. - This mein would be pulled Amu if the Crews. (Wes. hear.) Timm amid - hes* iseder withem stew system were not ameliorated—it the narrow and higotili system of rower, and be remembeesd that k was mid In the Spectator or some policy were still persevered in. AU he asked foe was, that trained periodical week, that moth* was so different as the beginning 'oleo be made a source of strength and power to this country, and the end of • loan. (A beagle) No man appeared so bane. booed of what she may be, its destruction in the hour of need. veleta es a lender—none so o di ous as a creditor, (hear,) yet i t was Me. GOULBURN conceived the question to be, if it were ad. unavoidable that the Crown must so change its character with re. 'hale to gnat the sum of one million to Ireland, under the cif spat to those who received the loan. He wits not saying that he cusestances before the House; and his Right Hon. Friend was would not prefer an eleemosynary grant at mice to a perpetually re. Mud with the enamor in which he delivered his sentiments, as if newed loan. When the day of payment arrived, the Crown came be bad not expremed himself in the way which usually distinguished without ceremony to enforce its demands in the first instance. The him in the House. The fact was, his Right Hon. Friend wassail( tendency of the scheme was to place the landlord in the situation of anxious, upon ovary measure relating to the advantage and interest becoming a debtor to the Crown, at the risk of losing his indepen. of Indeed, and be tees upon the present occasion toillueneed by a dace, and perhaps to the loss, if not the ruin, of those who were feeling of regret lest the measure before the House should not_pro. his creditors before. lie (Mr. C.) was convinced that the plan dem It. He agreed entirely with the feelings of his Right Ham could not be carried into practice without entailing consoquences Fried; as to himself individually, nothing could be mere mrste. inconvenient in the highest degree, and of the most serious charge. NI this the succor of a motion tending to the benedt of ter as to their influence on the connexion of the two countries. He baked; nothing could be more pleasant to him as an individual gave the fullest credit to the benevolent principles in wbkh the mo. thee to be able to say, upon his return to Ireland, that be had pea. tion had originated, and he confessed Mopposed it reluctantly be amed, se been instrumental in procuring, from Parliaineot a mil. cause he wee friendly to every snamere processing to relieve dm db. lin of money for the benefit of the country ; if is were not sup. tresses of the Irish nation. pose that such were his feelings he would be dealt badly with. Mr. S. Rice and Mr. Ca ten mutually explained. With respect to the measure before the House, be thought the Lord Mr. MABERLY sold, that if he read to the House some letters Lieutenant of Ireland would net be acting consistently with which he had lately received from Ireland, he was sure they could his duty, if he did not apply the most serious coosidastion not reject the proposition of his Hon. Relative. The diaereses of to every plan for the benefit of the couney, anti amongst others to that etteotry were of incon ce i va bl e sever i ty , Th e f armers lived and those plans similar to the one proposed. With respect to the sum of slept with their domestic animals, and in many instances their pO. meaty granted to England, - spoken of by the Hon. Member as 'rely me such that they could not save he. or fie. to buy seed. Of to England, and not to Ireland, it struck him as strange that the labourers there were many who had nut earned more then sa. • (granted observe that contemporaneous grants were made to day foe many months. How could it be expected that these men Ireland. If the Honourable Member had read the public Acts he should be contented when they could not sell their labour for food ? would find that Meta large aunts were granted for the public works The House bad been voting money far churches and palaces. of England—for instance, for the erecting bridges, or making roads, a Could it withhold the loan for which his Hon. Relative had asked ? latesuntwesaboeppropristed with equalliberality to Ireland. When Thee had been lately two Dutchmen in Ireland, who had taught One minim was plead in the hands of Commissioners for England, the Irish bow to save their flaxseed ; and there would soon be others half that ens was appropriated to the use of Ireland. This was nut to lend espial, if some were previously applied to the wants of the intended as a permanent system of government; it was intended as • population by Government. The fact was, that they were almost provision foe au emergency, to give an impulse to the vigour of the in • of starvation, and his object in supporting the motion was cuuntry,a vi g eo. wh the course of events gave us reason to expect .le a fend for raising flax. t* would speedily attain. The loin was granted until the country TRENCH stated. that Mr. Strickland, whose Med had revived front its embarrassments • it was upon this maiden Whom conduct had been so highly and justly COMMeeded. WOO an the loan was given ;it was not intended upon all. No Session bad English agent. If his example were followed, Ireland would elapsed since he held the situation which he had the honour to won be In a different situation. A crisis was arrived to which at. hold, from the period in which it had been filled with so much tentiati mart be given. He (CoL Trench) felt this conviction so ability by his predecessor, in which measures had not been taken strongly. that it had Impelled him fee the first time to stand for. to give amistance to the population of Ireland. The epiestion now ward and take part in a discussion from which his conscious inabi. roe the coesideration of the House was, if it were expedient or ad. lily bad hitherto always deterred him. The Irish people possessed risible to grant the sum of a million, and convert that into a an energy of character, • cape* of endurance, and an anxious cysts= which was merely intended for an emergency. He was not desire aro:ride foe theniedne and their families; whit*, under a d verse , as an i n di v id ua l, to any ass i s t ance th a t co uld be g iven ; proper Cultivation would maw the most surprising effects, neither waethe Government of the country. The great object was and wherever friendship and kindness had been mot' to. the inwed e mion of capita into Ireland; and to induce this it was wards them, the roost benevolent results bad followed. The onseted, that if anoirdividual embarked hie capital in public works Honourable and Gallant Member then referred to the evidence of la Inked he would be entitled to • higher rate of Interest few a the Countess of 0/angel! as to the dispositions and capacities tithe limited somber of yeses on the capital thus embarked. This was Irish people. Awaen the evils that pressed upon that country, it doe, by Act of •Parliamait. It would be advisable Dew to see might be mentions* that the rate of interest had not been reduced, what were the effects of a lan. There were many ends intake. sad that no advances had been merle by the Bank of Ireland. The time for diem purposes- io Imbued. He would inseam oett—that Welk* were ationed is the condition of mere agents, and ill paid fir giving omistootie to bode and usontilltelliklik. Warless non- Wilk too, of that creditors. He did not deny that the principle Melees and angimetims weeet mode to, Goeureasent by the lathe motion migt4 toot generally be missainous, bet in this in. Comatimemen employed, in Os disseibution if whey. The easel he emsider4 k would be highly beneficial . There wale he o e v am imi esee , were meg et di. highest respectability ; they csafessa, aminag prejudice among the Irish gentry against trade. could not be taxed with any remissness; they had no particular Tbey would'aelner see their sons starve than bind them to the Political feelings, they were of ad religioce ; their only wadi wee to fret lambast in the kiegdom. The Honourable and Gallant OW* the Door of Inland ; they bad no• wish for the ammo of Member concluded aids a -wattage of an abortive attempt in t axe d & . and t h em - perm& h a d ma de representations, not once or the coungy of Roscosnma, in which he resided, to raise a sub titles, diet they cons:detest these parliamentary rantsa prejudice, scription kr die relief of the agricultural population. Ile was bad not • Med. The applicants fur the grant were certaisly able ashamed to say, that, in a county containing 20.1.000 WWI under to Procure *mirky, but their object wee to embark in trade upon the plough, and yielding • revenue of Be.oool. per annum to a Retiusua capital, in competition with others, who had estabbsW absentee', only BBL were subscribed, of which he had given, a i themselves by means of their own capitaL The low rate of interest considerable portion himself. He looked, therefore, to Govern. at which they procured money from Government, pave them an op. merit. OS the only source from whence adequate relief could be Mietunity of Interfering with the legitimate profits of others. obtained. Was tepesseotatites of this kind were made to the Lord Mr. ABERCROM stY said, that he wan under the necessity of Lieutenant, be thought it his duty to imam the sum granted stating, that fur the motion then framed he could not vote. Un. Ise. Session from these Commissioners, end expend it upon douladly the House had never discussed any question relating to public works. Here, therefore, was one ground of his objectioas: Inked more temperately than this ; yet he was apprehensive of to the loans if they were beneficial to one particular case, they the effect that might (Alta the opinion that mite Hasse did not Interfered with the profits of others. If the loans Wm granted at entertain • favourable disposition towards a proposition for the present, the House should go on with similar geosta, even when relief of Ireland. There was in this country a redundancy of they were not necessary. lie would not at present enter into the capital for which no employment could be obtained, yet there detail of the measure. There was also ameba objection to the were six or seven millions of people in Ireland to whom not a lean to individuals: if Governinenewas compelled to recover them, shilling of this vast and redundant capital found its way ; and the it had a priority over other creditors , and the way of proceeding motion proposed that Governmem should do what indiv id u als would was by extent This was a source of great apprehension to those not. It was certainly absolutely indispensible that some decisive individuals who had lent a person thus circumstanced money, measures should be taken with regard to Ireland. It was india. and they called it in as they possibly could. It therefore followed pitiable that the present state of things there had resulted from • tact Goveronient should either forego this power or cause an evil to long eeries of misgovernment. The state of the administration of the the individual himself. Ile felt nu indisposition to the claim of law had consequently become such, that the insecurity of both per. the people, but he regued the question upon its general principle. suns and property opposed insunnounteble obstacles to the diffutom The people of Inlaid s hould not press upon Parliament her grin's, of capital. lie agreed with his Hun. Friend (Captain Maberly ) that and loin) expectations which it would be impossible to gratify, the greatest evil of Ireland was the excess of the population beyond and which would tend is the destruction of their industry. It was all means of employment. The only remedy was, to increase the not desirable to encourage hopes that could not be fulfilled. Ile capital of the country ; but till it mak be safely and profitably ice. would mention another reason why Pediment should nut advance vested, not a shilling would migrate to Ireland. The sums lent these mums: it was impossiele not to be aware that, in spite of the by the Committee, over which the Member for Medhurst (Mr. J. exertions of the Government, the time might come when these Smith) bad presided, had produced great benefit; but still the Pants would be redly wanted. The very nature of the food on essential measure toe the perrnment improvement of Ireland was which the people lived wade such an event more than probable ; the enlightenment of the people, and the consequent liberality of and it would be peculiarly incumbent em those who called for lac. I the Cloven:Went. He was most reluctantly compelled to oppose the sal assistance, not to press for it when it was pot wanted. It motion. Mr. MONCE agreed that the great ease of the distress of 're load was the execesmepopulatice of thee esuany, and he was afraid it was issposaible to give them better habits amends and subsist ence, whilst thei continued to be potato -r.d. He could not agree with his lion. Friend (Captain Moberly) as to the remedy he had propsed. Mr o . HUTCHINSON said, that he would detain the House but a very short time. Ile had always fought for the ameliora tion of the Irish, in consideration of the solemn promises held out to that country at the time rd the .Union. It should be re. collected that a benetit confirmed on Ireland was a benefit con. (erred no the empire at large, and calculated to give to it sta bility and security. Ile thought that the employment of the peasantry of Ireland was a point that ought to he attended to.' The country required constant protection against famine. if the Ministers intended any measure* for the advantage of Ireland, they were advancing at a snail's pace. Bat he trusted that the House would not be prorogued until the Ministers had conic forward with some definitive plan for its benefit. What were the remedies proposed ? An llogourable Friend neat him (the Mans. bee for Reading) sucested, that they 'Mould pass a law to atop the propagation of the species. (laughter.) This, he was afraid. would be found. in Ireland. to be impracticable, as it was a failing to which his countrymen were, unfortunately. but too much addicted. (Loud laughter.) He trusted that the House would enable the Lord Lieutenant and Government of Ireland to give full employment to the starving population. Mr. Alderman lilt I INi ES (amid laud erica of "Question ") rose to express his astonishment, that while this country was furnishing bans to nearly all the countries of the world , that Ireland, which was so much in want of money, should not be a participator in the wealth which we were distributing. He thought that if the gen tlemen of Ireland would suggest any reasonable or feasible plan by which a loan might be raised. he had no doubt that it would have the immediate effect of producing whatever money was wanted; be would pledge himself for the success of the trial. Si* J. NEWPORT expressed his Surprise that Ministers bad not MUM forward to propose some measure for the tranquillity of • Ireland ; for he could not call that tranquillity, which was pro • doted by Insurrection Acts and martial law ; in fact it was ne ti.ing more titan a fevered cessation of hostility. What be would particularise as one of the greatest evils of the country, was the mal-administration of the 14W by Sheriffs and Sub Sheriffs, Much had been said about taxing abeentees;•bet Members who talked of that were not aware of the real state of the ease. Ab- I sentees had been created and increased by the injudicious milky of this Government, by endeavouring to put the taxation of Ireland on a level with that of England. They had now, it was true, re nounced this system, from a convklica• of the inability of tha t Irish to pay in any such proportion nisethey had not given it up ! until they had drained the country, ruined the gentry of it, sad reduced the peasantry to a state of starvation. The Governmest had created the evil, and they . ought now to adopt some means of extricating the country from it. If they did not, the numerical strength of Ireland, about which so much had been said, would be turned to a bad purpose, and the two countries brought into am angry collision. He never could look at • question like the pre sent, as emanating front one side of the House or the other: ea& ought to surrender their opinions, for the purpose of coming se a correct conclusion. Mr. PEEL said, that with regard to the general topiaaf tbe Honourable Baronet's speech, he concurred In the arguments that had been addressed against them ; but there was one point to which be had adverted, which he felt himself called upon to notice, and also to give a refutation to; he meant that pan of it which referred to the officers concerned in the collection of debts, the Sheriffs and Sub-Sheriffs. He was willing to admit, that the execution of the duties of Sub-Sheriff was very imperfect, mad at the suggestion of the HOD. Baronet, a Commission was now in quiring ioto the best method by . which It might be remedied; that Commission had not yet made its report, and he thought it would have been but fair in the lion. Baronet to have abstained from making any observations on that point until their report had been received. Sir J. NEWPORT said, that that Commission was merely in quiring into the fees, and bad no refereace to the subject which be had mentioned. Mr. MABERLY replied. After which the !loom divided, when there appeared— For the motion, 33 ; Against it, 83 ; Majanty against it, M. REGISTER OFFICE. Mr. KEMP moved for leave to bring in a Bill to autherhe the establishment of a Metropolitan Register Office, for the registra tion of all births, marriages, and burials, within the metropolis. Mr. PEEL said, that he did not object to the Hon. Member's introducing a Bill ; but he would not pledge himself to support it.—Leave given. ST. GEOROE'S CHURCH, DUBLIN. Sir J. NEWPORT moved for a Return of all sums of money, whether grants or otherwise, that had been advanced for the erec tion of a church in the parish of St. George, in Dublin, stating how the advances had been made, from the year 1900 to the present BRITISH MUSEUM. On the motion of Mr. BANKS, the British Museum Bill was road a third time, and SCOrI t i 4L JURT COURTS. . _ Mr. KENNEDYmond that the Report on the Scotch Jury Courts should be received. The I•ORD ADVOCATE, Sir Oro. CLIZZI, and Lord Stir s ix° opposed the bringing up of the Report. Mr. AIIEICIONDY and Mr. CouIITESAT supported it. Mr. PEEL suggested its postponement till the next Session, for the purpose of giving a fuller consideration to it. Mr. SCAR T T . was diatimedicalopt the mgation of tat Right Hoe. Sammy; but helulpeCtelelithe tune for consider) og it had arrived, that it would be met fairly by the Learned Lord Advocate. Mr. H. DRUMMOND was /avowable to ha re-eornsnitment. Mr. KENNEDY, atter some observations, consented to the re• committal of the Bill. The Report was then brought up, and after a abort disausion, the Bill was re-committed to this day. The other Were of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at MALT-PAST Two o'CLocs. MINOR! 7'.e —ir Of 13 who voted fee Captain Moberly's Motion fee a Committee of the whole House, se consider the p.rium...!_iiiki.mite Crown to advance Pre not exmaft ,um. so be employed in the ftovaues of Mow aid Csormetlet, aid tins nintisskinera for carrying Slit obial Into MCI' AI Viscount Leader W. Stuart, W. Brow w, C. Maberl m y,John Stanley, Hon. E. Clifton, Viscount Marjonlbainka, 8. Tierney, Rt. Hon. G. Clements, J. Newport, Right Hon. Talbot, R. W. Denman, Thomas Sir J. White, Ellis, Apr Nugent, Lord White, Ebrington, Viscount Pelham, J. C. Wood, Alderman Foley, J. Power, R. Westerira, Hutchinson, Hn. C.H.Sroith, J. Whitbread, S. C. Headley, H. Smith, Has. L TELLER, Hest woad, W. P. Stanley, Lord Moberly, Capt. Lamb, Hon. O. Sykes, D. Rice, T. S. ORDERS OF DAY. Supply—Committee. Ways and Means—Consmittee. Land Revenue Sale of Stock BM—Committee. Slave Trade Laws Consolidation Bill—Furtbee consideration of Re CStreet (Mary.le.bone) Bill--Committee. NOTICES OF MOTIONS THIS DAY. Colonel Davies—Constitution of the Irish Militia. Mr. Maberly—Repeal of the whole of the Assessed Taxes. An Account of the groes amount of Excise ' Revenue col lected in Great Britain, in the year ending Sih January, 1896, upon articles exported from foreign parts:— t. s. d. Cocoa Nuts and Coffee - . - MAX 6 Of Pepper - . . . - 18,219 9Vi -• r • Vint' (Foreign) - - .. 7 MI 8 7 li 2 Tobacco and Snuff - - . ' 4 14'w - • •.- . . 1. 111 4 7 •Beer and Ale - . . ~ 1 1 2 d yer and Perry . . . . 11 - . • e : • 07 3 3 *stone Bank . s . . . . 69 9 1 °Mead or Uetheglan •Verjuice ad Vinpr . r . 123 8 0 Total . £11,493,344 11 114 • The sum mated se dm produce of the duties upon these esti. des, are exclusive of the Revectse collected thereon in Scotland, which is sot distinctly 'hewn In any statement to which immediate referees, an be had, but wbiebiokadwo to be inconsiderable in its erbium PRICES OF IiNITISiVESTERDA F. Bank Stock 243 India BMW', so In pr. 3 pet Cent Xeducetl.94 a India for Account, 3 pm Cent. tons. 964 a a South Sea Stock. Old D 4 per Cent. South Sea Old Annuities New 3i per Cent. 191 a aI a South Sea New Annuities 4 per lent. 10.4 a 1 El. bills, 1,0091.50 49 51 pr. None Annuities 222 15.16 . Diet•, not. 49 b 9 pr. Imperial 3 per Cents. Dike, Small, 49 Al pr. Bank Mr Act. Indoescd dine Cons. for Act. 961 a 4 1 a Letter, Tickers, 271. Ils. India Stock 2094 PRICES OF FOREIGN Austrian Scrip 174 17 pr. Ditto for Acct. 174 gi a Pr. Ditto paid in full, ex. die. Ditto for Acct. lian Ms. 834 Ditto for Acct. 84 34 Cotomb. Bds. 90 894 ex.ay. Do. Act. 90 Mite. div. Do. Scrip 2 pr. Ditto M for Ace. 3 2411 pr. Danish Bonds 101 4 Greek Scrip. 3 23 3 dill. Ditto for Acct. 24 dis. Mexican Bonds Ditto Scrip VI S'FOCIES YESTERDAY. Potties Bona, 944 Ditto Acct. 94 Ditto Scrip 744 7 pr. Ditto for Act. 861 74 pr. Protium Bonds 904 Ditto for Acct. Ditto Midi (1972) Ml* for Acts. 199 Ruction Bk. 674 7474 94 Ditto far Acet. 974 7 7 Spria. Cons. 114 19 i f 18 Ditto for Acct. 184 Do. 8 pot Cent*. Nt 164 16 Volta Mexican Wool S I di s . *Woes 164 17 tch Bonds Exchange _ Roues, 104 f. 40c. b.f. 7:.c. 114. Ex. 24f. 46c. 50c. 4k. 40c. Di. Scrip, 18 174 pr. Ditto for Acct. IN pr. 110 1 . Are. 10 sitiilpr. Neapolitan BAs. 91.1 Peruvian Bonds Do. Strip, pr. Ditto for Acct. /EU WW2* WOO. constant grants taught the people lo rely on doe aid olt Government, rather than on their own exertions. As to the growth of flax, where Hs cultivation did net exist. corn was grown in its plow, and found by the peasant be more profitable ; otherwise the growth of flax would be preferred and adopted, for it was mot mere expensive. The Right Honourable Gentleman added, that he had ex pressed frequently and earnestly Air anxiety to co-operate in every effort to improve the condition of the people of Ireland; but regretted, that with sueb feelings he timid not support the present motion, as he considered its Object to he not only impracticable—but if practicable, miselfiev ous ; and a measure, that though it Might bring paining relief tniil assistance with it, would be sure to entail ulti mate injury and disappointment. if the sum of a million were to bt voted by Parliament for the relief of Ireland, we think it !night at present be infinitely better applied tlidn to the encouraecthent of the growth of flax, and the fisheries on the Irish coasts. Plet, in some parts of Ire land, is very generally cultivated ; but the peasant who pays a high rent for his ground will not, u the Chamonix of the Exchequer truly remarked, grow flax, where corn will pay him much better. Any money distributed as Mr. Maberly proposed, should be given as a bounty to thf NEW THEAME ROYAL. DRURY-LANE. Thls Erman*. WY:Ws:F.:Y(IIV. May 5. will be performed rwetor Cmitteell. Mr. Dow tow Mau- ..,.nn, Mr. 1.14t0n; Chit:l'lo(le, Mr* W. Winw. Mini: which, MY lilt %ND Dleky Gaddy, Mr. Ilar:ey: Madame T., en... Pule n lilt : nr. TFIF: OF THE STAR. To-morrow, The Merry Wlyee . _ THE-4711E It(IY AL, COVKAY-GARDEA r . This Evening, ACEUNEADAT. May S. will he Performed PRIDE SHALL HAVE A EALI- Count Venn's°, Mr. W. Fasten: Torrents', Mr. Jones; Lorenzo. Mr. t7ooper ; Colonel Piston:l. Mr. Abbott; Major trsl . Mr. Connor; Cornet Count Carmine. Mr. Yates; Spade. Mr. illaiirhard. Countess Nentueu, Mrs. Davenport' Leonora, Mir Love; biennia, Mhos Paton. Tu conclude with THE SPIRITS OF THE WNW; Or, TIIE INUNDATION OF THE NH E. Tomsorrow, Has First Part of King Henry the Fourth. ,IDELPIII THEATRE. STRANI). ANNIVERSARY OF SHAKSPE VIES IHRTII-DAY; THIS EVENING being the Annirerstn. both of the Birth and Demise of our immortal. Wainatist. Mr. THF.LWALL will begin a COURSE of ORATORICAL and CRI TICAL LECTURES On the DRAMA and FoETRY of Past aad Present Times; to commence with a Dramatic Prologue, Sketehed of Shah's ! nemesis Character, Oe. and an extempore Oratrwival -Address. After which, a Disquisitlmi on the higher Restntpites af Dramatie and Panne IGenius. with Illustrative RectMeincia aN Critical Comments. To ennelude with the Eulogies of the Bard of Atria. sad an Invocation to the Shade of Garrick. Rotes is. Pit :la Gallery 25.-Dours open at haltpaat seven. and begin at eight. Tickets and Places to be had of Mr. Callan. at the Box-ottice. Tilt BRITISH Poses coinnieticed publidhing yesterday morning at •ix LONDON, WEDNESDAY, MAy 5, mi. grower, to make tip the delcicncy to him between the pro duce of flax and corn, and the cultivation of the former would again cease aisoon u the bounty was withdrawn. Agriculture and manufactures ars very different: the lat. Lord Lauderdale brought in a Bill last night to remove all restrictions on the silk trade immediately. The Noble Lord stated that, his season for doing so was to prevent the two Bills—that which related to the resuictions, and that which permits the introduction of French silk goods—from coming into operation at the same time. Lord Lauderdale said, he wished the restrictions to be removed Immediately, that a full year might be afforded to see the progress made in the machinery previous to the introduction of French silks. We have no doubt that all the apprehensions entertained respecting this interesting branch of our manufactures will prove unfounded, and that in a very few years our ma chinery will be so improved, as to have nothing to fear from French competition, or the most unlin.ited freedom of foreign importation, in that manufacture. The silk manufacture in France was originally introduced from Italy. The fabric of silks, velvets, and brocades, flourished at Lucca during the 13th century : they were driven from thence by the tyranny of one of Machiavers heroes, Castrucci° Castracani. In 1310, 900 families were driven out of Lucca, of whom upwards of 30 retired to Venice, and there offered to introduce the silk manufacture. Their offer was accepted, many privileges were conferred upon them, and they began the manufacture with 300 workmen. In this way the silk trade was also intro duced at Lyons. When the manufacture was first esta blished at Venice the materials were all brought from Sicily and the Levant; the more ancient fabric of silks at Lucca was likewise carried on with foreign mate rials. The cultivation of mulberry-trees, and the breeding of silk worms, seem not to have been common in the northern parts of Italy, before the 16th century. They were not introduced into France till the reign of Charles IX., and more than half the materials of the Lyons manufacture are still foreign silk. The manufacture of hosiery, which now stands so high in this country, little more than two centuries ago was unknown. The first person that wore stockings in England is said to have been Queen Elizabeth, who received them as a present from the Spanish Ambassador. Till then the hose were made of common cloth. In the same way the manu facture of fine cloths was long unknown in England, and imported here from the rich and commode' country of Flanders, and even then the machinery employed was much more imperfect than it is at present. The woollen manufacture is now the great staple of this country. In the same way, we have no doubt, the silk manufacture will increase, and that the gradual improvement of British skill and machinery will, in a few years, extend our sale beyond the home market, and find considerable vent abroad, where French silks are now taken ; and the silk' node be yet one of the most flourishing manufactures of this Empire. The Bill for the relief of Unitarian Dissenters, we regret to state, was thrown out last night in the Upper House, by a majority of thirty-nine; the numbers being 66 for, and 103 against it. It was warmly opposed by the Lord Chancellor, who said he thought the measure proposed most pernicious to the Church Establishment. Unitarians, Lord Eldon asserted, were not Dissenters, and could not claim the benefit of the Toleration Act, from which they were particularly excluded. Lord Liverpool, highly to his credit, supported this enlightened measure of toleration, in which the Minister stated he could see nothing injurious to the interests of the Established Church. The Bill received the support also of the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Bishop of Exeter; the former said that the law, as it now stood, caused persons to simulate assent, which was moat mischievous: repeating the marriage ceremony in one sense and receiving it in another, was a system of prevarication forced upon the Unitarians, which his Grace said he wished to see changed. The Bishops of Chester and St. David's as strongly opposed the Bill. Lord Lansdown contended that the arguments of the former Prelate were calculated rather to stifle the consciences of the Unitarians, than to promote the interests of the Established Church. Thus this measure of toleration for the present has failed, and we r egret it sincerely. We wish to see the rights of conscience respected. Religious belief should be a question solely be tween man and his Maker, and no temporal power ought to interfere. The Unitarians are a most respectable body, and they should not be subject to ceremonies from which they conscientiously and from religious principles dissent. Captain Nlaberly brought forward his motion last night, for employing the poor of Ireland. The great evil of that country, the Hon. Gentleman expressed his opinion, con sisted in a redundant population, produced by small free boids, and the dependence of the Catholic clergy on the peasantry, which led to their encouraging early and un provided marriages. Mr. Moberly wished a grant to be allotted by Parliament for the increase of the fisheries, and , the cultivation of flax. '11 , ; latter, he said, might be grown in a manner much superior in Ireland to almost any; other country, and far exceed the produce of Holland, or any other place where it was cultivated in Europe. The lion. Gentleman proposed that the sum of a million ster ling should be voted by Parliament for these purposes, to bo repaid by those to whom advances might be made, and security given for the discharge : a Commission to be ap pointed who should control the advances, and consider to what purposes most useful such a sum could be devoted, with the aid of inspectors, who should see that security was given. The Chancellor of the Exchequer stated that a sum of from fire to six thousand pounds bad been ter May thrive under legithitise protection, and at length arrive at that improved stile in which they may be left to themselves. lint the tillage of land is wholly different ; settee was more ghnerally grown, its produce in the market would be lower, and would never pay the cultivator rain ) the tithes, and taxes of his land, beside the cost °fired and la bour. As to the fisheries, considerable protection has of late years been extended to them, and they are ineresang in con sequence all round the coast. There is a Board in Ireland for the purpose, and Inspectors-General, Who are con: ,tautly and actively employed. We are no friends to the distribution of large sums as proposed by Mr. Maberly, and have seldom known theta to produce any good. The distfibution in the first place is neverahnottimpartially made, and those who are selected oh the occasion, generally employ the loan as if it were a gift, and look on it hardship when subsequently called on for repayment. Any amelioration that takes place in Ireland, must be accomplished by other mean,. We are gradually withdratving the Union boun ties from the manufactures of the sitter country, and cannot vote much longer, sums for new bounties on agrictd4 . tune. It will be seen that Colonel Talbot, the highly re spectable Member for the county of Dublin, presented a petition last night from the fishermen of that coast; it was simple in its purport, and merely requested that those bounties under whfth the Irish fisheries have hitherto been encouraged add advanced, might be continued. The petitioners expressed their opinion that any sudden aboli tion of them would be destructive of their growing pro sperity. The subject is equally important and interesting, and Colonel Talbot discharged a serviceable duty in call ing the attention of the House to it. Wherever the flaw ties are productive, comfort, and in general abundance, prevail among the inhabitants engaged in them ; the eery appearance of the peasantry is different; they ate well fed and clothed from the produce of their labouf, and forms a fine and hardy race of men, fitted to be the best defence of the country in its day of' peril. Every practical encouragement therefore ought to be giwea to the Irish fisheries; and we stow that they bairn increased and prospered of late years considerably, under the fostering protection that has been extended to them. In fact, we know tint the entire state of Ice. land is sensibly improving of late. Its redundant popula tion is unquestionably a great misfbrtune, and the great object should he to find them employment. If capital , from this country once found its way largely into 'friend, it would do much for the amelioration of the people, by affording them and their families that employment, an d bring comfort, content, and tranquillity in its train. ' The Duke of Clarence, the Duchess of Gloucester, and the Princess Sophia, visited the Princess Augusta yesterday. The Duke of Clarence dined with the mess of the Officers of the King's and other Guards on Monday. The Duchess of Clarence dined with the Duchess of Kent on Monday, at her apartments at the King's Paine, Kensington. Yesterday the Michels of Gloucester, the Princes An. gust', and the Princess Sophia, visited the Duke of Sus sex, at his residence at the King's Palace, Kensington, who still continues indisposed. , Yesterday morning, about twelve o'clock, Priam Leopold, attended by Baron Stoekmar, left town fee , ' Claremont. I Yesterday mrrning the Chancellor of the Exchequer bad , a long interview with the Earl of Liverpool. Yesterday, at t wo o'clock, a Cabinet Council was held at the Foreign Offitv, in Downing-street, which was attended by all the Cabinet Ministers except the Lord Chancellor.— The Cabinet sat till a quarter before four o'clock. ! The Rev. C. Sumner, one of the Prebends of Woreemer Cathedral, is engaged in the translation of Milton's Latin Work, recently discovered among some State Papers, and which will be published as soon as the requisite arrango ments are completed. • I Colonel Talbot presented a petition in the House of Commons last evening, from the fishermen of the county of Dublin. The subject is one of the highest impatiens@ in belied s I and the present petition simply contains a reco2r eskims i snot of those bounties under which which the Irish Mama have been greatly encouraged and sdvanced. The midden abeillehm al them, in the opinion of the petitioners, wear be dostmedve at &dr growing prosperity. In the debate which subsensontly mak pine. on the employment of the !people . of Ireland, it was umimaini that this employment might mainly be pemostial Weigh Oa fisheries. Colonel Talbot, therefore, disobeyed a serviconhis duty In calling the attention of the Noose 1 the 'object= Mess . penence and knowledge of the mat of Ireland wiser die lobe*, are principally cultivated, and his political conoistancy, mast fail in giving due weight and effect to be recommendation of Ws important hawk of Irish industry and wealth, n the anostlea, consideration of Parliament. CHANGE IN THE ADAIINISTRATIOIfe—II was eurteady reported in the first political circles of Dublin yeah:day, that sous change in Administration was contemplated. We should acid, that this report was prevalent long before the arrival of the packet. Its arrival was looked for, therefore with some anxiety; but the London Prints were silent on the subject. Sonia leitera,however,bore received in town, which serve in &great degree totem don the tunny.' We believe that Mr. Canning Roth himself as strong hi the ego . dowse of his Sovereign as he does in the public confidence, and Nest he has been pressing upon his colleagues the Irish Question. rime is no hostility in the lejal mind on this question—alt the contsory, it is universally understood that his Meyers, io more than faun). ably inclined to his Catholic subjects of Ireland—Dublin Emilia' Past. We still remain without any decisive information re specting the disastrous events which it is to be feared have es. curved in Africa. But we have been favoured with the perusals( letters, written by most respectable individuals, and dated Rom Sierra Leone, on the fish and 13th of March, which make net the slightest allusion to those events. This circumstance forodaboo at least a hope that the alleged defeat of Sir Madam DUCarthy may be unfounded, or at all events exaggerstoL—lfweofieg Pape. Yesterday morning, before the Lord Chancellor POW into Court, he was detained in his ;wives( room fee soon tuns, ad ministering the oaths to Mr. Littltdale. mi a Sergesitt-sulaw. n. • patent was then sealed, and the Learned Sergeant wan iomediaWy swore to be one of the Judges of the Court of King's Ranh. Lord Chief Justice Abbott was present dining the cetsmany. The Anniversary Festiva/ of the Poplar Calbolio Cba pel and Charity School was celebessod on Monday mooing, at the Landon Tavetw, Ilishopsgate-street. A nuinerma asompany as sembled; and in the absence oldie Hon. Mr. Petry (who (orniadod I • donation of ten guineas to the Charity), the Rev. Mr. Morrisamek already placed in the hands of the Lord Lieutenant the Chair. - _., of Ireland, for the erection of piers along the Irish Letters }yertehe from eep .L ar ist: of the 23d oh. mention, that s M ree Cam Sums devoted to purposes of this mort, the 1 This elaterasmem had mused nor memo= in wised thee with c " l i A tw ilies t bet Mks Right Honourable Gentleman stated, shculd be lie- jute the y8:i......i."..1 Is. wa dasig "wive ill ito 1, " 411 . their yso bases—tbe of she eduarily limited, and granted with a great reserve; service in Spam being expired. ) J' Li ~. II