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Ality were all agrees as fo the propriety ototlopting Ih, advice of the Committee. Pottsohnv egplaiaed. • • • • Mr. W. IVy tin contended, 60. they shoald foPon the • mode sdiTteet by their ancestors, and eriment the Solicitor with.' had screed the notice. -He 4greed also to the• propriety of the Speaker's putting iu his plea. Sir S. Rooti.vi was desirous to state his opi. ohm upon some doctrines that had been advanced. • He agreed that the Speaker and Serjeant should rtiat ilk plea., but there were some opinious stated ht his Right Ilunoorahle Friend near hien, mod by hi. Learned Friend, which he was de.i m ue of offer. iota few remarks metre. (krild not think it was the duty ohs Member t•t plead against the House, in the pre.ent stage of the business ; he, therefore, should not enter fully into the case. He would confe‘s, however, that he di I not agree with those who thought that the privileges of that House could hot be tried in Courts of Law. He thought that their print. gea censtituted part of the law of the land, 11111 I hat they would be recognized as such by co rt.' of Justice. But supposiog that the Speaker's pie oa. to have the effect of interrupting the can e, the same reason would not apply to that of the Serjeant. If their privileges could not be questioned. surely the mode in which they were executed contd. He thought that a dangerous doctrine which denied that afro• of their privileges colol be tried in the Courts below. He gooiert several authorities, Lord Kenyon among bilveri, in support of his priiitiple, and maintained that this doctrine, was neither justified by practice nor by reason. tie knew that the privileges of the House were connected with the privileges of the people, soul regretted as most unfortunate that any opinion of the people should incline them to thick otherwise. Mr. Willi:mot said, be was of opinion that the doctrine of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Sir Samuel Hominy) went to subvert all the prin. ciples of privilege. tie was aware that the Hon. Baronet, Sir Francis Burdett, then is confinement. bed set forth such doctrines, find they were well leteived . by these whom he was iii the habit of ad dressing: Bid he did not expect the same argu ments Coin a men, whose sentiments, if he did not revere, sit lea s t he was iu the habit of coinciding in opiai .n with. There must be an end to all power it there were not some tupreiumey to guide it. After the !rimed and convincing speech of his Right Min. Friend (Mr. l'insitimov.) it would ill become 'him to defend the law; hut this he would say, toot in Courts their privileges were open to be discussed by other tribunal., and are liable to contruul ; but that tribulisl, which he had the honour to sit in, was mot answerable to any law. If there was an ape peal to be made from the Courts below, it must be made somewhere, and to what place could it'lte made but to the Legislature? Then, be would ask, from whet part of the Legitimate would they try to seek redrew? It must be from the House of Commons. A discretionary power most be lodged somewhere. and the House of Commons was the only L•gitiluste pace Tor it. Ile 111.8111 , thongiit f,eb,re too oight, that Coons of Law hurl wid e p ew ri in ..ie. • of Conn, and that other Courts cook' not have eontroul over them. The privilege• of the House must cease fur seer, if they were allowed to he disclissed in Courts • Law. 10 the case of the Se.jealit, it might tw tktie , cot ; for, in executing his warrant, he night he guilty of dolt or larceny ; hut as long us he was the Officer of that Witte, they onght not to allow his eousiuct to 1.. e so closely investigated, as it might give an opportanite io examine into the .11/1117.10i. but being of .opts,ion that the plea might he entered without infringin{ on the privi leges Of Pasrliameitt, he agreed to the motion. The Arroaftte-GxeCRAL said, he was surprised at soy wppotition, after the authorities which had beta stated by the Right lion. OnalCITlllll. (Mr. Ponsoill.q), whose arguments, and the whole tenor of whose speech, did honour to himself, and must always produce grautu4e from his coentry. He then entered largely into the cane of Sir Francis Pemberton. and Sir Thomas Jones, Judges, who were called before the House. They did not dis pute the privileges oldie House. but it was iucisin. bent en then. to act as Judges—they refused the plea put is by th • Speaker, because it set forth that the Court of king's Bench had not cog. nirooce of it; but if they had pleaded that all Courts had not a jurisdiction, it would have been received; which showed that they did not thick they had any power over the privileges of the Huns. Ina that the plea uses not entered prof o rm a . This kind of precedent had been made much use of, but when it came to be .wined, it was found that some irregularity was the cause. He fill nut a doubt, but when Mr. speaker's plea was put in, the Judges would not listen to the suction ; but he mild not give them the same assurance as to the Serjeant; for, in the execution of the warrant, lie had mitstepped his instructions. The privileges of that Houee could not be iiiured, and were not cog. nimble in a court of law. 1 here were many Learned Gentlemen more able to give an opinion than he was, and if they wished to put any question to him, he was ready to answer. Mr. WILLIAM SMITH could not consent that there was any power in the country that ought to be put above the law of the land. However. he gare•hill assent to the present motion. Lo.d Aftwrow said, he entered the Howse with many difficulties upon his mind. as it related to the question then before them, but they were totally removed by the arguments iu the impressive speech of the Right Mon. Gentleman. (Mr. Ponsimby.) At the same time he was of opinion that a difference should be made between the Hon. Speaker and the Serjeant.—(Loads calls of 44 Question, rustics.") The SrsAksit then put the question. which was carried without a dissenting voice. Mr. Davis GIDOV then moved his second R•eola!ioa. which was carried with the same uu •..imity. Mr. W. W. We ett asked if the persons or agents carrying on the prosecution, were to go - un end adduced- several instance*. both in Flame and that, where they had been appear at the Bar, and were afterwards itted. rratcavat. asid, that. from the COWS? the 'on ' ne hod take n , h e t h ouc h t i t unnec euutry. INDIUMS thought if they dtil not proceed against those persons, they were encouraging in• suit. Mr. BILOUGHAM postponed 111. notice relative to the instructio n* of Ciro/eminent to Mr. Hat horst. • Sir JuNtl NP.wrowr postponed his motion rela tive to Sir G. Sher. The considerat of.the Pones Settlement Bill was pustpoued to Wednesday next. Mr. G. Rose asked whether it was the intention of the Noble Lord (Cochrane) to move respecting the prisons of the couutly, of which hr had before given notice ? Lord COCHt*ttE said, that he had been prevented from bringing forward the motion by indisposition, but *mild take an early day for the purpose of doing so. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The sum of 1,511,7 tat. were voted for the OM'. tomes of the Navy, and au addition of 1 5,000 Men for the service. After some discussion between Sir C. Pole, Mr. R. Ward, Lord Cochrane, Mr. W. Pole, Captain Parker, Mr. Whitbread, Mr. Croker, the Chan cellor of the Exchequer, Admiral Markham, and Mr. Ludniigton, the Resolutions were agreed to. and the Report ordered to be received on Monday. The }louse adjourned at HALF-PAST TRIM oVi.ocir, to Monday. NEW TUE.! TRE-ROY A 1., COVE NT-GARDEN. This present SATURDAY, May It, no, will be revived, KING JOHN. John, King of Enylaud, Mr. Ramble; Falcorsbrirlye, Mr. C. Kemble ; Philip, King of France, Mr. Murray. Queen Elinor, Mrs. Weston the lady Csmstance, Mrs. Sirlduns ; Blanch, of Castile, MISS Bristow. To which will be added, first Ouse this season, THE BIRTH DAY. • Capt. Bertram, Mr. Menden ; Mr. Bertram, Mr. Manny; Jack Junk, Mr. Fawcett. Emma, Miss Bristow. Os Moaday, Macbeth, sad Harlequin Pedlar. A New Musical Afterpiece is is rehearsal, and will very seen be produced. LYCEUM THEATRE, [Coder the Special License of the Lord Chamberlain.] This prerent SATURDAY, May it, lam, Their Majesties• Servants will perform a Now Sethi Comic Opera, rallied THE MANIAC; OR, THE SWISS BANDITTI. The Characters by Mr. Philipps, Mr. Holland, Mr. Wroughton, Mr. Raymond, Mr. J. Smith, Mr. Smith, Mr. Duwtoa, Mr. Mathews, ]lr. Marshal; Mrs. Monatain, Bishop, Mrs. Bland, .he. &R. After which a '.cw Magian Farce, called HIT OR MISS. r • t vi.hed th p ['v'Der Obliged to I committed. Mr. I.r, n Pmftler:dNlNfi THE BRITISH PRESS. LON DON, sATuttwiv. MAY 12. The Report of the Commiitee of the House of Commons. appointed to inquire iuto precedents, &c. to guide the House in its proceedings fee the defence of the SPEARER and the SRL/RA/IT-AT. Anus, against the actions brought against them by Sfr FRA‘CIS BURDETT, was last night laid upon ;he table. A debate uf great importance, in which Mr. Po sisa tiny made a most distinguished figure, tank place upon the subject. In the course of his speech, he was cheered from all aides of the house, and after he concluded, was complimented by every one who followed, upon his most able, limin ess, and argunie•tative exposition of this great constitutional question. A Report of this valuable speech is given w our preceding columns ; and, under all the encutastances of the universal ap plause which it excited, it must remain an historical record of the unanimous opinion of the House of Commons of the present day. The Report having been laid upon the table, the ATTORNET.GRWRIAL was directed to enter an apPearance for the SIMME RS amid the SERJEANT, accompanied by a notice to the Court, in which the actions are brought, vie. the Court of King. Bench, that the privileges of the House of Commons are involved in the actions. It will be then for the Court of King's Bench to consider whether it has jurisdiction in such a case. The Lord Mbar: packet is arrived from Cadiz. with • Mail; sailed !tech ult. The Sta . /lower, sloop of war, is arrived from Lisbon, with a Mail; letters will be delivered this day. We have received by them papers from Cadiz to the 14th, and from Gibraltar and Portugal to the t2d last, but they are not of importance, being anticipated by the Recruit, which brought accounts from Cadiz, of which we gave the substanceyester day, including the capture of the fort of Matagorda, to the t:l4 Litt. The Gentlemen who have prepared lists for the Loan, fur the service of the year, waited, yesterday, by appcmitinent, upon the CuanceLLoa of the EXCIIEQUEN. The lists err— Sir FRANCIS BARING. and CO. r CURTIS and Co. G.LDW,D ■od Co. and the STO(11 EXCHANGE. The Cuitscit.t.os of the EICEMOURIt informed the Gentlemen that he should want • Loan of II Millions for the service of England, i Million and • half for the service of Ireland, t• be raised is Ireland. He should also mint an issue of Exchequer Bills to the amount of One Million and a Half. for the service of the East India Company. He proposed to give for every toe. in money. 1301. in the reduced, and the rest in the 3 percent,. consols. The biddies to be in the 3 per crate.— Of rostrve the party willing to take the smallest quantity of 3 per cent. to have the Loan. The 1...r . t.s are to go up on Wednesday neat, when the bargain ..ill be settled. The declared amount of the Loan produced no vanatmoi in the price of Stocks. The Aret ender Admiral :4uJ.Satitemtaa sailed on 'naiads, IA Yarmouth to the baltic. INQUEST. An Inquest was held at eleven o'clock, yester 4ay, at the Three Cosap e s se s, in Portmities• mews, South, by G. HODGSON. Esq. Coroner for the county of Middlesex, on the hotly of John Crowe, a dustman, who died in coosequence of a wound he rewired on the head, in an offniy on Monday night, between a number of labouring men, and several Life Guardsmen, whose stables are in Wil liams's-mess, Mary-la-bomue. Lieut.-General Barton, of the 2d Regiment of Life Guards, attended during the iiivestigation. The first witness invent was John Veer, a car penter, residing in a cottage iii 114rper's-fields, Edgewrare-road. The witness said, that on Mon day evening last, about eight o'clock, as he was going up Upper George-street, Portman-square, on his way home, he saw a great concourse of peo(de opposite the Feathers public-house, in Upper George-street; and perceived the deceased retreat ing towards the public-house, and three Life Guardsmen following him up; one of them had a stick w his band ; the witness thought, by the strips on his sleeve, he was a corporal ; he saw him strike the deceaied several tunes on the head and shoulders. The deceased fell ; and, after he was down, the corporal struck him several times, and two other Life Guardsmen came up to the deceased; one of then, struck him with his fist in the body, and the other kicked him in the side. The witness did nut know the de ceased; saw him since he died, and heard that he was a dustman, about forty years of age. The wit ness heard the mob say, that the soldiers were " Piccadilly Butckers." and saw ix stone fall at some distance from them. That Was after the de. ceased had been taken away. Question by the COIONIIIL Upon your oath, were you in the crowd was not ; I was at some distance. Q. Were not the men stripped ?—A. I do not know. A small blue cockade having dropped out of the witness's pocket, and firing picked up by the beadle, who observed it fdl, the witness denied it belonged to him, cud paid, some person must have pat it into his pocket without his knowledge. He was ordered to withdraw, but to remain in at tendance. William Pierce, a dustman, living in Cumber land-gardens, the bottom of Circus -street, New Road, said, that he had known the deceased up wards of twenty years ; he was about 40 years of age; had worked with him on Monday last. About seven or eight o'clock in the evening, the witness and the deceased were coming along Upper George street, with a cart-load of dust, and a man of the name of John Stevens was coming from digging at the foundations, and had a spade ou his shoulder ; he asked the witness to have some beer; witness. stopped his cart, and celled for a pot, at the Fea thers, arid stood at the door ; John Crowe, the de ceased, did not drink. The witness took holdyof the pot. and drank ; at the,same time, two soMiiirs, Life Guardsmen, come out of the Feathers; one of them was a *Wort sea. with • sash, and the other, a till Man, both in regime's . - tale. The soldier, with the sash on, asked the witness bow he did ? and elasdrved, he had not seen him a long time, and invited him to drink. The witness gave the soldier the pot, and he drank cut of it; upon which John Stevens said, • if he, the witness, drank with the soldier, he Weald chop the witness's bloody arm off with the shovel ;" he called the soldiers " bloody snots," and spit at the soldier, blew his nose, and threw the contents at the tall soldier's face. Then Stevens said, • he could beat the whole regiment, one by one, such dirty snots as them." The tall man said to Stevens, • You had better be quiet, or else we shall quar rel." and went away, but returned in about a mi nute with nine pr ten soldiers, with sticks. which appeared like broom-slicks. By that time, a great number of people had collected round the door of the Feathers public-house, and an affray commenced with the mob and the . soldiers. The witness did 'not see any blow given on either side, and went to his horse and cart, where he found the deceased leaning against the t a il o f t h e cart , w i th h i s head bleeding ; the witness asked him what was the matter? the deceased answerd, " I have got a terrible cut, and I shall know the man again ;" he did not say it was • soldier that had done it ; the witness tied a handkerchief round his head, and advised him to go to a doctor, but he said "I will go home, you take care of the cart ;" the whim* did not see any person stripped, nor did he know that John Stevens and Crowe were in the affray. Barosby Stevens, a coach-spring-maker,'resid ing at No. 19, Adam -street, West, and in the em ploy of Messrs. Charnberlands and Williams, coach-manufacturers, of Adam-street. said, on Monday last, neer II o'clock in the eveninit, after leaving his work. he was going along Upper George street, there was • mob of people needy opposite the Feathers public-house. The slimes* perceived two blows given to the deceased by the soldier*, anti saw the deceased fall. The witness was about three yards off ; who gave the' blows he did not know, hut they, came from two soldiers ; one of them Na a eiwporal, and he bads stick in his ban& tadther soldier came up to the deceased and hit him with his fist in several parts of the body, while • third weigher kicked him; the witness observed.• For God's take don't murder the nuns," one of theisoldiers made two blows at the witness, and he west away. Witness being asked whether he saw any Life Guardsmen knocked down, he answered • No." Thomas Glover, of No. 40, Adam-street. Wetit, coach-spring-maker. and employed in tiw same •auufactory as the last winless, said, on Monday, about eight o'clock in the evening, he observed a great crowd at the top of Atfaris-strew, and some in the middle of Upper Genegi•-street; the wititeas went neat the Feathers publie-horse, and saw two men stripped to fight ; one of them was a soldier the deceased wee attempting to pull sate asinn away. whom he called Stevens, having hold of his arm. The Winn*t saw the deceased knocked down by the Corporal with • stick, and be repeated the blows several times while he lay co the ground, and a second soldier hit the deceased several times with his fist, and a third kicked his. The Wit ness did not know whether the soldier that had .tripped to tight was one of the three; he did not see the beginning of the affray ; there might at that time be about tr:t soldiers stones thrown at them, bun ' out Who shot the Cobh many other opprobrious tr he-house was about 100 mews, where the men's stet The Surgeons' evidence, ceased, wus given in tarn Clerk, as follows : " We, Edward Leese, of Dnitv. and Richard Hardliant, of l'itprr square, Hargeons, having examined John Crow; found a wound, two in left pisi - tion of the frontal bones; ant, seven or eight ounces of extravassted in the bones • vie ore decid e dl y vaisattd bloo d was the cause of (Sigurd) Thomas Pitcher, Quarter,- Regiment of Life Guards, and street, Montague -square, said, the Regiment had !nobles in the men slept over the stables. The witness's duty was to go .about a quarter past Bevel in the evebin4 to inspect the horses in Wilhums's-mews, Q n h!: return.from the stables, which sae about In 1 , 11/I „ tc , afterwards, lie mist Corporal Tottey, who told he was going to the stables in King-street, ler orders, as there was to be a review the next niurie lug. They stopped at the Feathers, and called fur giass of tale, but did not go into the bons-. Tlip,,,, were three or four men. like dustmen, standin g out. side of the house; two of the men abused them; one of them blew his nose, and threw the contents at the Corporal, and said—.." You are not in Piccadilly, on horseback ; yon are a fool; we should inert sub men who would serve us out ;" (meaning tight us out).—The Landlord of the Feathers public-nouns came out, mod asked the men what they meant by abusing the soldiers? adding, " Cannot yon leave them alone, they have nothing to say to you." The wituess went away, and he received a blow from a brick-hat on Ins thick. Twenty or thirty of the mob collected, and threw their hats up into the air. In the mean time, several soldiery belonging to the regiment came to the spot; two men stripped to fight, one appeared like a dooming, the other was Johu Stevens, now in custody, who challenged Cor. pond Tottey. The witness went sway to make his report to his Officer. His men, when Ise went at a quarter-past seven; to Williams's-mew s , w ere i n their stables, perfectly sober and orderly. TIMMY Cook, a private in the -Id regiment of Life Guards. said, that, on Monday, about eight o'clock in she evening, he was in Upper Georue. street, Portman-square, going to the barracks for orders; he saw a mob, amounting to upward. of 2.)0 persona e collected in George-street, and about five or six toddlers among them ; they were omiu. site the Feathers: the witness went amongst then, and a dustman, who was stripped, challenged the witness to fight him; to which he an.wered, he had no ,inchnation to fight then ; h e t o ld him they were not "itli Piccadilly ; they had got men to de4l with ; the Corporal desired his men to return to their stables, * iota they obeyed ; they were assailad by the mob with briek-liate. one of which hit the witness on the left thigh. and the Corporal received three blows with bricks on the .back ; the soldiers re. turned and faced the mob, who puraus d them every time they were going away; at the third face about the witless was seised by the legs, end thrown down the Corporal, who came to his aseistance, wee also knocked down. When the witness got op, thi mob had nearly dispersed. The witness did not see the deceased, and is sure, had it not beet • for Corporal Tottey, he would have been murdered by the mob. The witness said, that, sauce the riots •in Piccadilly, their regiment had been vary much insulted, particularly b i manufactory.me Chainherland's and n thatworked at Williams Joseph Bank., another private in the same regi. went, said, on Monday, about seven or eight in the evening, as he was going to his stables, in King street,Montague-square, he saw a mob near the Feathers, and several men stripped to tight; he found that the Quarter-Master and Corporal Toney were there; he walked gently up towards them; the mob at that time were very riotous. One man, who was stripped, challenged Corporal Tottey to tight, and also challenged the witness, who declined. In a few minutes the mob increased, and there were ten or eleven of their men amongst the mob. Thn Quarter-Master attempted to draw his men away upon which the mob exclaimed. " Turn out—a riag—bring your forces forward—sod we will you." The witness did not oisserve any tighit"g at that time ; but they being pelted with atones. hncks, and pieces of slates, returned three times. and seeing one of their men on tie grounisl, the witness being irritated, said. " sal r should we be insulted because we are .oldiers? ae are not to be driven away by a parcel of peop!e."— The witness and the rest of the men turned round and faced the mob, who met them with sticks, and they also resisted the mob with sticks, and released their companion who was lying on the groned. The witness did not know who struck the decanted. The Jury, after half an hour's consultation.' , - turned a verdict of Illansloughter, against some per son or persons stnitnnirn. Tn. Inquest lasted five hours. A great enornorse of people were collected iis and outside of the house. Yisterday morning, Their 1111AJIATtr4 and the Pats left town, for .Windsor. Thursday, the Dukes Of K and CAmeittuut. and Princess Senors of Gi...u- Lissrvit, dined with Their MAJitolikS and Puts ttssks. las the evening, Their Ma.tit•Tiii tpul e select party to t.a rad cards, at which weir trirroeor,. beside; the above, the Princes+ CiAattirro • %VALs.e. the Duchess of LitEDS. Earl HAauowll. the Countess of Aitalln, Lord ST. HELLIO'S, Lady Ammo. &c. &c. PIOCII OF STOCIIR TEXTBRDAY. Bask toe per Cent Reduced o per Ceet. Grasols ..• 7 1 4 a 4 per Celli s px Cron. Nwry . ....... ius C rolsrur T. NOM Stork er..4rr, 4. Cocaina, mod 9, Cl4.riag.C,oso LONDON .—Priated by C. SMITH, No, 1, Clcranot's too. sod publi.laed et the Once, No tr., Bark of St. C1e10r , ... eh"rb. Strand, by J. t‘HITE..4 sow platen 7,e for Skl. Porn, won to the Other, (rot pool), gull 14 z bilootted t•. Adiers ; he di.! tt hilt be 6eanl tli. y - filer? Liee lun,her sq 'eons. The Fee ht•rs yards from Willnain.•.. stables are. ' one. who attended the d.. 'writing. and reed by tat L ure -street, M anehester-sout "pper Gearre-.treat e, , Purtisim- wined the body of the d att ",, two inches' nlig, t over th e nes; and, Mill.lll the erani un‘, 'rusted blond, hut Do (rictu s 11y of Opinion, that the extra, of his death. EDWARD LEESE. RICHARD 11AltDHA/d " rter.master in the Serail(' Is. and quartered in Kin g . said. that about fifty of , s in Williams's-mew s , and .