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?s-r Rawl, Flightiest? I meant to nay that 1 was le list pre. i es* which wee making sesisoil her Royal Highness. Did you mean to tell M. Morient that you were one of the witoteee against her Royal Higitneos ? Not. Ws. it a 'fumble Wear, you need in so speaking to M. Mariam? I never spoke of that to 14. Marked. Then to whoever you did speak of that, white yes repre sented Viet yam-had teloressolt ; ski gnimmilikeppogoolop as et dott6ie eateadee to that person ? Attorney (111113 val.—He has not mill lot it was a ebuble catendre. and my Lepene4l FriariUlla. no right to male if in was adpebfeeireeitr.. Reairehain—My Lord', this ip qe )11g4e1 mew rule of cvi ;roc, He ettenita that he represented to onspg poemet,,,it matters not In whom, allot hr hod a law-suit wills kr R o y a l Iliehorae I caked another epteatioe, and he then sags lima be meant' by haring s lOW-snit, ih.t he hail not a !amend with her Royal Highness, but in a situation as different as two situations can - he, for he says he WWI nu, p party Oat a wit-true. Have I not a fight to ask that queatiou, h i e the pontose of esplaining those two contrary answers? A COllll - n. • rios.tx nrs.iiior an ordinary witness has a right lb ask seggeetioos out of his own monk 34 its the very common unrtoious or what expectation lie ha., or what hopes. In eiist,exarainat;on you may reaming a witness as to his le, to 4. H•ciettendvd, that in petitioning; any doubtful Mauer, Lr bad Vie rapt in cross-examination to put a question as to I lie halo f ear the witnews. The Lori' Chancellor then directed that the terms of the e,oeitiria ahoolil be read, %skids was accurilingly dune by the 'bort hood writer. • he !Awl Chancellor observed, titer,' milli he no doubt ho:: s $.ll a qoestion i mita be pot la slur The ottee; 00000 %molten again put. A 1 es, I *nevi' datable en/rendre. lea y.ot ever lel M. M oriel ti or any of his (amity know Coo von ivr re conine as a wimp., against her Royal High s ItitU. WI irictti after I 'attuned (rots Ashton. Iluw lunz ago is that? Al, ost Iwo month. ago. ‘Vi'l yon swear when you first told the family who you were, iliat they did not kilo., it before? D d not know. Had they n o t found out his name before? Yes, because hr Ii id revottioneil it to sonic per‘oo. tra% ii lo Merietti futility' lie told his real name to • one of the brothers. of M. Mare Ili. Dow Wog was ii since hr told M. Marietti's brother? Aleoit two inotelte after I came from Ashton. How long is it from the iw • time ? About seven or eight months. ii hr sure that was the time? About seven month.. Who slid be t-ll of it two months ago ? Did nut rententhee. Doi poi see the gentleman who you disclosed fine name to. ever after that lime? 1 saw him some time since I set rent for Milan. Have you been in M. Marietti's house fillet yoo hare been in Several tinsel to make a visit. Ito, was the last time you weal to make a Vigil thew? Three sir font months ago. Did they then know whether yanr name was Milani or Sacchi The brother of M. Marietti, who set out with me from Milan, knew my name to he Sochi. Did the rest of the family call you Seeclai ? Never. Did he tell Mr. Godfrey% family al Ashton that his name was Milani? They knew my 'tame was Socchi. . Will you swear that you never told them it was Milaoi ? They knew it was nut, and it was not uecesssry fur me to tell them. %Vito emoted hint to come to Ashton ? M. Seigetti. Who is M. Seirietti " Hr was a relation of the gradientsn of the house. Was he a relation of M. Marietti ? Hie condo. When was the first time that Seirietti knew who you really were? II was one day when he came to ask me to pay • vials. 1 then told him who 1 was. How long is it since? Altos; seven or eight months. Will s-u., swear that was the time' About seven month.. nit yen erre make any application to be taken Sark lute her Royal iliglaness'a nervier I know nuthine of it. Do you recollect. after leaving her Royal Highness's being in • destitute situation? Never. I tut you never retreat any person beloweing to her Royal Highness's bomitiold to have compassios on yon,os account of tour dreadful situation? I hive never been in a dread. rut •Autitios... Will you swear that you never entreated any of the home hold to take pity and compassion on you? !Von ',if rirordo. WI. ii is the meaning of pity and compassion (steered of answering the question pet, you ask ano ther, Attend to my qtiestion • will you swear that yoa were never nt treaty with any of her Royal Ilighinotti's suite, after you left her service, to have pity or compassion on you, to get you restored to her Royal Highness's service, on accouut of ito:e distressed situation ? It may be. Dol you ever represent In any person that you taxed your. self wish ingrotitude to a mail geneross mistress, meaning bee Royal Highness The Attunity.Geoeral objected to the question ; he stated that if the representation was mode by the witness in writ. in., that riper ought to be put in before the question was 11111 to the witness. If it was only a representation made by the witness in conversation, there could be no objection to huts Learned Friend's asking did you represent so and so is conversation. The Learned Gentlemen then took the opportunity of mrstionino to their latrelehips, that the wit nesiehad lately been confinvil to his bed fur several days by • severe imlispositon. He bail therefore to beg of their Lord- Aim that be might he aceonimodated with a chair to sit on if lie wished. 11/e, the Attorney General, did nut know the volitive desired it. Mr. Brougham costended there was sothing in the ob. jeirtion of the Alloracy-General. It was well known to their Lordships that in pasting enesuons to a witness on a Cro , i.eallasilialloo, that Conned were always allowed to pot item stronger than in examination in chief. The queetion he Lad pat to the witness, as to the representation he bad merle, there wee no *Rushes in is to writing, therefore the ob. knit,. was premature. If the wittier* had answered that be tied made the reprivestation in writing, then the Ix:wised Attorney General might with propriety have stated his oh• ,iectioo to any question being pad 0.4 that writing before it Was produced. Its submitted to the rule made the other dsy by their Lordships, as so the cross-exsotiontiou of wit erases, that they ought not to he mounted to written dorm picots without they were first produced • hut he was confi. deal when their Lordships came to th at coorlution, that airy Jul nut mean to exclude Counsel oiliest We Bill from lb , usual course of crossexensiostioo. The twerps:ore thew acqsainted their Letrilaliips, that the witneas wished him to intimate In them, that he felt Itimerif Whet unwell, and begged permission to withdraw for nitwit lite', which was grauted, and the winless acevedingly *db. dire. I.lr. neW4•4ll requested to lee et liberty to urge a few sr. IlUaleillS 'guilts( the objection taken by the Attorney crucial to she question put to the witness. He strongly remonstrated against Gouusel interposing to protect a witness from being made to contradict his awn leiti snotty, given tan a former oreasion, and 'wreaths' the detection of Ilia manifeot perjury. He woleinuly insphoed their lordships out to persist iio preventing him and his Learned Cullesgnes from questioning enmities upon the rooteots of their written testimony, then it was e ou t r ufli c „ tut y to the tindery, which they adduced at the bar. Was if to be horse !bat they, having (soppooe it fur ergo seest's iske) proofs that entirely eva I Waled the parole evi dence, shit they were sot to pus quest toms open the couteats assets proof, until they bail (bisected in the documents opal, which they meant to tstieblish time perjury? Ile in sisted upon it that this doctrine was sot law teeny Court of Jistiee. It would be iasposeible to detect a conspiracy • rig iinst the fife cad character of any Delesubost, if that t ile wee, to be established. If all inch, letters were to be produced befoee a quoditti could Ise asked to lay the foundatiwn, every Witness so eistomslattred world have a full opportouity of ettylainiull ass,: oh‘ ie and -- of hiss' suptitep . - docile l vnirr had breed the Comipel --- o their r • • . „ inch were In he the eventual decision, the petal thug al least he farther dlieresed. So petsoa an mirth, nut. eves the presiding power of s4e•Cuurl which he wet• addlnithlng, and least prodl those who represented the milieu ellaulled with hsnillf isitpinyeil a-perjured Willie'', ethrid dealers the right of detecting the perjury by contrasting the deposition of that witness with the opinions and statements which he had. before made. lie felt it tu•he dvtr M mot top* ; test against such a principle being established as law in nu, rase in which he was engaged, and he wan guidons that such s law should not en down to posterity without its being ma. rlcratiind on brhaff of himself and has Learned Friends that ' they opposed it with all the power and ahility which the, possessed The tlttorneyCMuvnl tailed itatbeie Lieniships to defend the decision of the Ju•lges, es it ems now appsely snowed by the other aide that they intended I. obtain • revision of it if pordhle. He rt•jrrtcd the imputation of baying inter posed to save a witoesa from admitting his own perjury.— Ile had acteil in co 111111 l mice with his ditty, in trying to Maintain tlwir Lordships' decision, and he did sot thick it (Air that his nanhve4 should Ile mieatinneil. Mr. Diuiman said, that he had not meant to impute any such mutise ns a desire to protect a witness front commit ting perjury. lie merely meant that the interesiptioe had time a Wert. The Attorney-General accepted the explanation with pleasure, and complimented Mir. Denman. He objected to the moil , in which the quest' had Leese put. He ',pre . hendiiii, that if their I.ordships would not allow illegal evil ' t•s he given, by soireritig direct questions to be put respecting the compote of written documents, so they would al., lifilse to allow such evidence to be apiestioued in any more way. 11.. re Gentleman *poke with such rapidity that w:: cont.! sot follow him. To two of his assertions re specting Mr. Itrougham's argument that Gentleman gave a contradiction. Their Lordships were impatient et Ibe second internal,- lion. Hr. Broughams Isaistud tali it that be had a right to do so, which proffuierf aim of " rhyler!" These again induced Mr. erouglina br laSiSi upon his right to promot misrepre imitation, ip a lender awl more emphatic manner. Louder tries of "Octferreueecetleil, and were again followed by a fresh and a hinder declaration of his right by Hr. Brougham, until the Counsel were ordered to withdraw. Mr. truitzham said sumcthiug whirh intimated that be could not of course prevent their Lortlehiits from doing that. Lori! Riolceitale then said that tut Counsel bad a right to iuterropt another either in Court or at that bar.` Hilaire were onarepreactitat ions they should wait till the conclusion, awl Shen point Ihtin out. The Liril Chincellor aaid tb it no Counsel hod a right to interropt another in the course of his speech. The Couitiet were ogriii called in, and informed that if they felt thentae:ves affected by soy misconstrucliou, they were to writ till the eiroclusion of the speech oe •rgnintsit. The Att y•Gettei al coucluded by remitting their Lord. ships to maintain as ii rule of law, the opinion which had beer. given I.y lite J adzes tspou the point an girretiou. Mr. nrougliani explained those parts of his argument, on account of misrepresenting which he had found it times miry to interrupt the Learned Gentleman. The Lord Chancellor said, that the opinion given by the Judges the other dry Will out exactly • decision upon the case before the Howie. That was a decision upon a cam where written papers were produced. Here there wen Ilp yet no papers produced. If a witness amid he sure that the papers "loam which lie was asked were existing, it wophl be contrite*, it; Ida Counsel to call fur their producliou. He could nut say that it wa. so in a cage where there "night be a knowledge of the roments of papers which had existed, hut for aught the Court knew were taut existing at the time of bigotry. Ile proposed that it should be submitted to the Judges fur their °Oudot whether or not a witness could be irrossAagamined in the lower Courts upon the contents of papers which he was supposed formerly to have written, when they were not produced, supposing the Counsel for the ether side were ready to oppose such cruss.examittatioe. The Jukes retired to deliberate. ford KellYou wished to make two motions fur the galls. &client sir Winitters, the [louse, _ and the cavalry, the object of whirl, to ascertain what facilities had been given to her Majesty for prugiiling witnesses for her defence. He moved for copies of sill communications made to Govern merit by her Maj.sly'a Legal Adviser., with the answers cheerio, respecting the Queen's defence ; mid geminate of all monies pled by Government on behalf of her Majesty Mums her *rival. The Evil of Liverpool could have no objection to letting the world know how her Majesty WM been bested by the Government in respect to m o ney and other means. He did wo think it vas a deenit topic ivfinnitiry in the present state of their woreedlinv, espccially an on ewupleint had been made by the (4seeis or her wlvivers. At any vale the House ought to have notice, and the motion should stead for to. morrow. _ _ _ Lora (Tolland ihnoght it a very proper object of inquiry for a Montwr of Parliament to nseertain from whence the onlstesited soma come which the Noble Earl alleged to have been offered to the Queen; and to what purposes those sums were to he applied. The Earl 11./ Liverpool ekplaineil. (If Mine his words were to be uailsrstood with 01/per "notifications. Lord Kenyon was wt swore of having incurred the ne eourtsues epithet applied to his motion by the Noble Sart. Ile would, however, take his advice, and put off his motion till to-morrow, which he would have dune otherwise, but that he had been given to understand that the case fur the prosecutina wouhl close to-day. The kart of Liverpool assured the Noble Lord that he had no iuteutiun ufimputiag any thing indecent to him. ' Os the rcturu of the Judger, the Lord Chief Justice Abbott deliveierl the opioinn of himself and Isis Learned Brothers. fie said it was not in any of their recollvetiosis that a question of the nature proporeil by the Counsel had ever been pelt in the Courts helow, but that questions of a einsilar nature were of every-day occurrence. In questions referring to contracts and agreements, the wittitss was fee. •nossently naked if there was any agreement fur the sale of a certain at tick, on whirls it was the ordinary practice of the Comisel nu the other side to put an intermediate question to thew assess, and ask whether the agreement was in writing. If the answer of the witness was in the affirmative, then the •setreentent in writing must Fe pill in—if iu the neiptive, the Counsel 'stay proceed i.e questa/it the witness on the stator* of the Rgfet;Otellt. Although , therFfore, himself and him [-teas Ned lit. OS 114:111 COIIIII out speak distinctly lit the affirms tive or the negat•Te 'spot' the question propional.to them by their Lordships, yet, with iefereuce to the principles of the Mir of evidence, as decided by the practice relative to coo. 'reels nod agreements, the otlier Judges wit!. himself were decidedly of opinion that the quest could Mk he pul, iu present•fortn; but it might be divided, and the witness harloksi Actin* asked geurrally if he bud nook any declarations en:serrescidatintaa, and if he answered in the 31'6.17146M he rootht he naked the particulars of those deelaratioos or se listroestatione, the Oseatisel on the other side being permit ted by the House to interpose the qucatioa whether the de ' claration Wes i 7; The Lord ChancellOr said, that lig always uuderstood its the Courts. below, the Cqtpe e el, on cross-ezetuarallaus bud a right to ask ilip'sviiness if he had merle *rich a declaration, gibing it in general 'elms; hut if they gem, on In ask Per , iiett!./ 18, then Ilse Conuarl on the other sok might, accord. ingio the rifle of • ',Weiser, interpose a question, and ask, whether the declaration was, iu writing? The Coursel (wing wdereel to he called, Mr. Brosighain sleet forward io Ilse bar; when— The Lund Chi'nrellor iufofmrd him. that the floosie had derided, that heissitst first ask if the declaration of the wit ' siess"was nts,!e •Willt or in Writini. Mr ftriorghattf sithihitted, if Irg moil Not gist ask whether thedyearatneir wit cutsie'or not Che" "0i1v.44al atoderalatirliag of the •Isi• Judges, • ask the wanes* Minos; herr( he a& if tie deck le Abe view token lost he. seder wan, —. At that it am* be ellsese Emit be if hq answered , - .' .. - whale bore end subsionee of bis pl;ry, nicks ille, pre- Pr,d2t 1,1 , 4 !" 4 - 1 !". °344.14 nut? . 'aloe of &made rifeNdre, or some usher "Fre. Ile F.irl Cary inainlolnitt ort;intlincin Ins nook,. tiros 1,8, be bad 104`ard it alaiotaing. , by di Cosopel fur the opinion of she Judges, the Counsel nligl.t 1 • *their 'side spun (bone Lordships' (lemma,. ikkAyrktir.o 'pa- I generally,. "A I%los *yews IssAis ssy kneel Pon! Olfg l la all (*wake D 31 "Ifl eri4,Cll arLsoeim.r44ioli prOecrd.rf to . oaf parliculArsi i , lug * a m first a , i m or a• to Ibrir t °maga Nail thepeteti As far tatious ire i t memo' ox. opS. ii ligi talk applied to Me prottiot csel e l4 X 4 :o4lllt:jo • The 1;41 vr Pteßivni IMO ink obiersicie to rla., tile . li2 . l € l 2Pelicillultk . “‘e,= l /11 . 1 r.: A 4 iii . 4 114 kbe trite i li pt ir . l Irk* liN/ Le s i 4 J.atrfai4l4actirs: Irlot 4 i. „ I I" 14 1 040 1, 41 0 4 44 1 FA . iii,..7 1 1,. q „,, t i o ,. c „ s y vo i* siskagtsi-rally ; but I oi t , i .1 91 ( fsPr-vPSI Agl44o' YkSde'r . ilt tg*. 1.4,4, itlitAtioniir., Yr . vs :Mt * I I ‘ 1 441 . . !1441 iftV4Sire l 4t.ti V. '.Witotirlio#Osismotitourf.a.tim,wid i • l w . • : • 1 ! -.'. , ..' .: ' • "-• ihry S./ hair edema:et - as* Ulm! - • Wag Oho ef •Prel*Prf•rshivr .eteq hen objected ;bat the Counsel meet int at Il{. *maim unisosode istwelting or wt. He eerteitelyild estri ../ggjggil that ay Lorca' optative might he pat, hat that Illettelouldifetto intooduatioo as to particulate. Lord Erskine ilearaglittiot the Consesslalsowld aek4litt wit ness if he did 11S111110111regnewisistion, mertthea, sweenitiog to the opinion of theJosigee, the.Comesmel for the Sal may in. Impose the goodie* " Was that representation ill writing?" The lord CaeIIIMAM/ Ittought the: imit emirs, wow walla be for the Cermet for hot Majesty to he asked if he wog/ ask the *items if be had Mar a reperomstatios, with the understanding that the foamed tor the•Ritl was sobs allow. ed to ask Ilia wittiest, before that mmHg* reotewserioed, if be had made the reproseedation be writing. The Marquis of Lased's/es said a few weds, Iher rermi of which we cooldarst gather below the hor. The lord Chaseellor, addressing On almogleam,ordeed. him whether he world wish to withdraw lie iseitiss is pot, and put it generally ; or if he would parentis pother the seesaws •• it stood, an the tettebeekeateet dist the House would permit the Counsel a Ossetar aide Ite Swi rl's a question to the witness, as to wissiber IM ..,sinner tation was is writing. Mr. Brougham seggemed whether the addition to Mop's meat question of the words " in writing," would not mows. p!etely obviate all objectifies. After some Curlier orinvemodos, is sblett Lire *Rags dale and Moaned, the Aims& ea biomasw% Ins art Lauderdale, and gni Goer potlisigolea. The Earl of Dessioloasis some awl oia, Thstt iiikaa undoubtedly the ispiriewelabelledirli woo Net bindle se the Honer, yet ea ell‘reowe scaleless their °pietist mod that or the Hesse SW iota the twee attielese eerie* and W now their opinion was sot thought aufficieutly ortOttioeitee tie the subject, be thought the better way weed& be Mo quest dune to noconsider is. The House bad bees olitsissa by a Wog legal coneersation (he would not will it esgsossa), is order to accommodate sod compromise &Weems/Des net whit lie wished to know was, the law es the subject, led if there was now soy obketion to iuferming tli-• Conned is Jenne what the Judges' opinion was. He would sigh to re fer the quest We again to the Learned Judges, few which pur pose he moved, " That the opinion of the Judges be read, and that they be requested to re-consider the same." Some (either coswersation then wok place, after which • The Lord Chancellor suggested to Mr. lirotiehs% that, under the eke...stucco, lie had batter perhaps withdraw . . the question. Hr. Brougham said Ileumt ensneetly wither, to withdraw it, and had indeed been for some time waiting for an uppur tunity to do so. He therefore requested their Lordships wuuld be pleased to direct that the witness be again called in, which was done, when 'the Earl of Dououglimore made a few observations in a tone of voice su exceedingly haw, that we could only hear enough to enable us to understand their purport to be, that lie did nut think the conduct of the Learned Coulter! to be by any means proper. He deemed it wholly iucontistent wills the dignity of that Howie that its proceedings should io any degree wear the appearance of a bargaiu or condi tional agreement with any Counsel at their bar.--.(" Go on! go win Loud Holland said, that although he was very unwilliog to prolong the conversation, yet he wished to say a few wont' on what be conceived to be the nature of the duty which the Learned Judges, who, throughout the whole of their attendance oar the present proceeding, bad setritted themselves in the most satisfactory manner, were called on to pesform, and of the opinions which they gave in answer to the 'milieus propounded to them. In his judgment, so far from any opinion of their's being bindiag on their Lordships, so far folio its being binding us their action,, as a rule by which they were housed to regulate their proceedisge, be thought they never were to be called on for any opine/nits to what their Lordships were shunt to do; and if any Lord should rise with any proposition (tribal kiwi, he should say that it was a must unparliamentary courie of proceeding to call on them for any opinion as to what their Lordships were to du in any pat titular case. Those learned persoos were in attendance solely for the purpose of giving their opiri eeee as to the pr wake, iu such points as might for that purpose be submitted to them, of she Courts below, and after they bail given such opinion, it remained fur their Lordship' themselves to decide upon th e ride which they would prescribe fur the government of their proceedings io any parlicular case. The Noble Lord had muss ked that it had been the practice to introduce in the instructions to Counsel at their Lordships' bar the opinion of the Learned Judges, on which such instructing was founded; fur his part he too had observed it, and with much regret, the more particularly so as it had often hap peuetl that those opinions went far beyond the question which had been laid before them. With reipect to the question now before their Lordships, or rather which wall lately before them, which was, whether a particular question should or should not he put to a wit ness, it had r ' ,peered in the deirostion which had taken place upon it, lost, if pet, it would be attended with cer• lain consequences, and thertfure the Learned Counsel was willing to withdraw the ciestion; in this he saw nothing extraordinary; it was merely the discharge of their duty towards their client, that Counsel should with to witli• draw a question, if they thought the consequence likely to prove in the smallest degree unfavourable. And if they were to be allowed, as was always the case, to avail themselves of every favourable consequence which might result from a question by pressiag it, when their Lordships decided fur its being allowed, there could he no reason why they should out also be peribitied In with. draw any question, when the consequences appeared to them likely to prove unfavourshle. Considerable ineunvenleuce, in hie opinion, resulted from the digressions into argument, in which their Lordship. too frequently indulged, upon legal questions first on one side and theta on the other, making themselves not she Jokes, hut Counsel in the critic. His advice to their Lordships would therefore Ite, if they should fuel disposed to listen to the advice of so humble an indivi dual—fiber, henr)--whrn called on to decide whether any particular question should or should wit he put, not to mix with their decision any abstract opinion of law, but simply Its pronounce that the question should be put, or that it 611004 not be put. —(!/eer, hear.) tile. Brougham then prueeeeed with the cross.exantina. Sion. Did you y to any person dial your conduct towarila her Royal Higher's wail liable to the charge of ingratitude -toward, a generous benefactress! Never. Is this your writing? (*hewing witness a letter.) Yes. Is that also your hanil.writing ? (sheaving another) The 'illness parsed far some time...looking at the lettee, who Mr. Brougham observed, that he was 0 011 to Snail Wee easid-writing, and nut to read the letter. A. It is. The Attorney-General said he could sot see the lettee. Mr. Itrolichans replied, he knew that he could not,ssur did .be intend tivit he should.—(Lquoklev- 2 0rder!) Have you ever been called by any other name than lapi, Sacehisii, and Sarehi ? I have been called by another 1 tame. and am *till so Viet is that other nanse? J beg the favour of the Howie ant to oblige me to tuention tt , because..l urn afraid if I tell what name I nuw go by, I may thereby he exposed to like fury sof the people, and my safety euilmsgered. The `witness afterward* begged the House to interims, tbrieauthstrity to prevent the name (nun appeasing in Him public prilwisi. In Italy did yon go by nny either name? I sip Iset remember ever being tilled by any other name. Did rim ever make use of any other name in Italy purrs's of correcsrumbng with any person? Pion oat It. curries. Have yogi ever been is Switgerland? Yes. Were you ever at Masse? Yea. 2 Were you ever al Culombier? Yes. How lung were you at ell beg &hugs or Colowaltier at auy 1 , rose time? About sic weeks. wave you publicly knows Acid everf ro :A__l. 1 1 14 ror did you rls4 t OP* • ogle, every budy. - • wi~nrm- I • • yes p, or owe lee hews lbw? By i. of I led. marl la past two same, at a you lbws is yew own same? Fifty swear you had wet more than that In yoor name dim ataardosa! 1 bod.ao moo than aims My Lewis. Wall yoo swear that gun never had a credit by which goo trot ambled to draw on the banker (or a greater tam? *war hat. Did you waver say to my person that you. had a greater mew, we thatlito hod a esoillt formy greater saris ? I do sot someasber that ewer I said on. • DM ma will not swear yes have oat midget How eons I army. whoa J. ad remember poi heck a certain Maileasolselto Demerit from leuriMatimiad to Maas ? Yea. DM ymt fetch her fromeolotolsieo No. Did you go to Coloashier for her! I went to Colosabier, mt. he ottimplier, MI mask her if she would go. __,. sped ma on that occasion ? I was dished to gp hp aim Csaialliiimuil - JeMiyisomermemN iiimpanew in Awitterland that Demont was gone boilliote that abs was going back, into the *entice of her Royal.llAdhstm Never. Who came with yea ohms you mania( came to this coos. ley ? A cuoritri rallied Mr. Kravis. Is that Mr. Kr a. X the same pepsin who was lately arrest ed at Paris au a chorea of Augury, .r uttering forged notes "! I 'wryer heard week of each a thing. Did Mr. Kraut: comae over to London with one, or did be remain at Paris:' He came to Loran* with sue. Is Mr. Kraals a regular King's klessienger, or was he only employed by the Milan Commossion Ido nett know. Did you ever go anyother jourmi with this Mr. Kraut: ? Never. How lunch money have you received from the Milan Com mission in recompense fur your services' N•o other arm excepting tbs expenses of my jimmies backwards and fur. words. Do you mean to swear that yon have sever received any promise of say suss rpm% the Wee Ginsinsimion fur your services I eau swear that I have never received Amy such promise. 1)0 you mean to swear that yea have never received any promise front any person of any recompense for your Into kle rn ihis business ? t can swear that I have hid no such promise. Will you swear that you have not been promised any ad. vantage of any sort for your trouble in giving evidence I *ever asked for any thing, nor has any thing been offered me. I do not ask you whether you ever asked for any thinz, woe whether any thing has ever been offered you, but I ask you if say promise has ever been wide to you by any persuo of any advantage whatsoever ? Mu one ever made 'me au, promise. Have you ever amid to any permit shut yon had received any money, or any promise of money, or any advantage, or the promise of any advantage, for giving evidence, or fur your trouble? I never said to say petition that I had received may money or any *brasier ; I might have said that I had been paid my expenses. Do you mesa to swear you do nut expect any thing fur your trouble ? I hope my expenses and my ttam will be paid. Have you ever sees Bennett since yam came to England ? Many times. Hate you sera arty of the other witnesses since you have been in Ragland ? flume of them. Re•eswmJttert by the Attoraey-Geaeml. Where does your family live at present? They are sew at Padua. Were you ever is the army? Yes, tea years. In what army did you serve? In the Italian army. Whose army—was it Bonaparte's? It was the army of the kingdom of Italy beaded by Bonaparte. What rank did you hold iu the army when you left it ? First Lieuteimut of cavalry. When were you made a Lieutenant of cavalry ? Ou the 6th September, 1813—on the field of battle. At the time of your leaving the Prim:cps*. service, did you receive from her Royal Higbaess any certificate of charac ter ? I did. Have you got it about you ? Yells berg it is. Is it signed by her Royal Higlluess /emelt ? WIN* it was given to me I was told it was signed by her Royal Highness. Did you ever see her Royal flightless write? Ido rot re member. Did you ever see uwy letters which haul bees written by her Royal Highness?— Mr. Brougham objected, that as the witness had said hr did not remember to have seen her Royal Uighur:sit write, be could nut know whether any letters which he bad seen bad beet, written by liter ur by any other person. Do you know whose real this is? [affixed to the certifi cate whirls he had prodnre.i] Yes. Whose seal is it ? It is s seal whirls I ikase chew seen on letters which her Royal Highness gave me. Who gave you this certificate? Count Schisirioi. The Attorney-General proposed that the certificate should now be read. Air: Brougham objected to the reading of it. It had not been proved. The witness had stated that he received it with a seal affixed, bearing the slime impression as those which he hart seen on letters which her Royal Highness hail given him at different limes, perhaps to plat into the post —non coastal 'hit it is her Roysl Highersie seal; won coastal that it is her Royal Highness's hand writing. The Attorney-General—The case steads the : This paper was gives to the witness by Schiaviesi, with a seal on it, which the wastes' bad seen on letters given to him by her Royal Highness herself. By the notes (folio 3113 of the printed minutes) it appears, on a promote reasseinatiosi, 'that Schisvini was the person who regularly gave the servaists their certificates of character whew they left the melee of her Royal Highness. On referring to the part of the minittes alluded to, it was lusted (bit the witness then tinder examinatiou hail said he hollered &Mayan!' to be the person. The paper, therefore, sorld not be read in this stage. Did you say this paper was given you by Count Schiavini I that. 1, the body of it in the haul-writing of &Marini ! Tee. What situation slid Schiavini hold he her Royal Iliglioess's Sorrier hlershat of the Palace. When any of the servants emitted the 'mime of her Royal Hichnese, did ally person of her household usually give them characters! I have only ocets lelajocebi receive a cer tificate of character; that was given to his by Srhievini. Was Schiatrini Marshal of the Palace when he gave the ger tificate ? He was. Did you apply to him for the certificate? No. How long after yon did Majocclii leave the Kmiec of bar Royal Highness Ile left it before me. How long? I do not exactly remember; I believe absot two months. TIM AttorneTGeneral now slated, that he thought if Ise enteleoleew the certificate to have been ileum by a cutnpe tent person, it would be admis-ible, •illiout being proved to heft been written by bar Royal Highness, and he 'p re . MANI 'sough hail been already proved to lay a priori rule ester sf Schiaraut Miser, from his situation in her Royal Highilinell household, *Whin turd to give such certificates°, character. Mr. Brougham observed, that what was called the teal no this paper, •ppihreil to bins to be a plain piece of wax, without any iinFreotion whatever; inderel, use eye Hutt hid net the power of a microscope could possibly efeteeneine a single line of the device ou what was berg colloid the ihs pressiott. The Attorney.Oencrel seid that his wax not a amieroseogit . eye, and yet be o'o4l plainly distinguish ,be isnprcaasou um this seal. Mr. Broughams said, that he the impression what it might, be protested against the idea of the ma betel( teitr.ta to prove soy thing as moth, wills or nollsorit7 of the ;yeti dente. Mr. pesisoln amerved, that it might how. two afti+pvtl by any pen.* in the house Oho had 4.4 or picked o* tho, seal sty where.-(eries of ° Wfthdrette"—a Older.") • Toil have been °Med hmy leivold fried, the (4,1 01 0 . • Alters., Omer* some questiorni relatiro to a eßgfgllpiaa lime from s penes of the acme of Iforkttis I wish to know in the a diripablor, he Id sot* awl as lo,palicolaesT $, lobotimobe did y bit if theirtheem tipleoloweloite waroderst, leo taq *we saw, &Mei. stied tb* lie lipediptioll obi° Ibe-patiaeolaoi. Hod yom soy aim Earl May mad, that a moliitide of *ea koma hod 4hoes booboo's as laioasone? pot of a oimilar eaten to the pommy trithest hoeing bee. Now mew; hod yip objected to by the Comet for 116 Bill; for byelaw? ' several 'mail. of the witeeteal had boom asked, if they had received soy • Will yam wear you • who this perms soused Multi ti is t know several brotkrre of that name. Are they backers at Milan yes. Have they also a house of trade in Loudon ? I know no trade iis tassems. D., Fess know the •rn of ()biciiii and Co. in Loudon 3 T... _ _ is one of ihe-brolisers, lierietii, it partner in thit-hovor Yee. Do you know whether Ike Marititi't ere the Ptincets't Ihnelkenit ihias I boy dtep slice were. Yen sated, „ iv ", to a. gotration front on, Letrae.ll Friend, that one of the Mariath's ratted upon you 411 nit t. 1.1 isioistles back; ow that oceasiuit did Itarielii .late for 'ghat purpose be called ? Mr. Brooglasou objected In any porstion eel dire to the coavereatione lorlieeen M wiesti and the w•Gors.. not Of any nlll of law by which, becmHe 4 nit•n•-; e.y permits to be the banker .I any piss tr, r shim which only Ime taken plane laroein die V/1111. , 4 A. 1 ,1 *opposed banker tau he receired an evolnere n;11110 that pan,. The Attorney General said, *fiat he prorerrl.4 Nana fir, such hyputhiais; but he mat sitained Ilya hr Lad a right to --eaine the ardour an hi any maths whiels sr.ear out qr • In the examine tau iu thi,f, he 1,19 ready es edited that Ins cooed Itut pl. any 1„ witness respecting SO/ soallse of coureesstuso betwe•q 11,. witness sad a third Patna, Let if in the ermweit3stitnati.,•l the witness be questioned as In • c:inweisatios with -.0 4 person as this wastes' had Ise.n. Wm, 4iult s emote / nit, with this Marietta which uerurreJ I,u months ago, Ire 1.1. t, mitted that he had aright iu setraatnivatitut to qacstiou t:,! witness as to what took pierce , * that tier. The lard Cheneelloe desired the shad-bawl *titer la read fro* his Renate, the goest•ois is the crossexen.l,• inns touchisig the co tittle allotted to, awl also the 'lino re% answers thereto. Mr. Gurney reail *ewersl question• sad answers rela!irelu the artitteete's tent's; M. Mseietti that his name was fitecht, slid a witness against the Queen. The Sufic :foie G'raceol Jisid, that he was *milled to hare the whule of ilsai ow re•eaarniaattun. Mr. Brougham-11y 1,./r4.., 1 1., your Lor.l.!lip., that, altlvinb the, are raillirdln re exami..e u 1,1 any thing that imam' mil enus-exammatiuti, y.l wilnras admits that he told 11. 11 eri. tti that hi,. same WAS Sarrili. DO >Oar 'AM.:IIIIA think, that Ortt leir at IL euueer,aliuus of what Was said Lord Chaim:olw directed the questions to be ret.i again, which being done— . . . . . . • The Attorney-Getneral *gift, that it •ppesred t 3 ewer In • goestion of Menet Lewd &Atom said, he thought the questioo ought nut 15 be old. Lord Liverpool only wished to are the case correct. said it was • aswerastion-which hick place betwevo witness and )larictti, respecting his 'seine a the Qlll.Oll. He did •ot presume to give an ni1...0i1, hat i., wished to 1111111011 11 10 their Loriliihip., aid he also wish ti to have the advice of the I,nd Chancellor, wbet , irr, if there was such • conversation between Maii , sti and dye we are not entitled to know whit it was ? 1.1.14 &ikon! Paid, that he should !u of the Lame op . - aims of the Noble I.unt uho had jost oe.dredaed their !Awl. s h ip ., p rov id e d it coighl be found uo rroweauntioatiou such wad the fact that lheritad her., rot. tie*. . The Lord Chalicellor—" 1 apprehend. if part had been given in cadence. assuming for the incrnent that it we. Pa, if that coavcrastioa turned ou villa, brought him here, they hive a right to have gutted in evidence all that pasril Iw. tween filarpriti mid the witness on that poiut."—a k ipr(te of " Go on, go on.") Mr. Diongham—Rot that is assiimintr. my (Ards, that there was a conversation ; which we deny. The iquestioo put is Did you disclose your o tine to narirlti, or soy of the faray ?" Aud the answer is—" I told it to N. Marietti." Lord Erskine—lt does not metilio t whether Mario% spoke to bins at all.—(Criss of " Gn o r, .Mu on.") By the dlineney-Geuerali—On what occasion wall 1, thlt be lull 51arietti that he was a witness against the (Li t . r' When he paid sae a visit at my lodgings, about two muntiii ago. What was it lambda W. state that to Marieiti MK. had Marietti maid, we whet induced bias hi state this Is Ms. rtetti ? If. Marietta called .141 Mr. Bronglisnis.—Brfuste ihisvguestio• is pot 1 still OA under the circumstances a very strong objection to this, hr. chose he has nut said one Magic syltable is ernm.msansina. bun shout may !how of Ike kind. I admit this casts* mid, evidence if it shall he found to be something arising (me of the conis.examination, which 1 piiiidieely slimy. It is mai found is the evidence Su crwrexamitsatitrn Iha this person told M. Moretti something. There is nothing of•• roast-s -wim), I will vesture to eased, on the short. hand writer's mites. Why, my Lords, if this in to he allowed, oseppositiz That I Call OS a ',lineal in cross asiou' io si iii . le hell ~,,. Ii ever he said nay thing to A. B. she cuswieqiunice wonbt Ise that every thing A.R.:said to t h is winless must he made iv.. dente, •Ithungh the witness never said A. U. uncurl mouth w hon. 1 do, my Lords, most earnestly tripe your Lordships will nut lay dooms so dauxerous a rule. Mr. Deuman—Your Lordships see the question Ilitte out, is as to something Marietti said to this witness, by she way of aerousittlig for something said by the witness to him. It wee not because the witness snaole an 0 1 14 . rwat i on to Masietti, that they had a conversation together. The Attorney-General-1 pettedly agree in the proposi. that all quest - uu re.examitiation most arise sit of somethiug that Isis come out on cr.'s eximitistioa. Mist Mai ic.li said world not be critleuee in my exami nation in chief; hot shun they hare asked. In erios.exaso. nation, os %%Ist did you say to Marietti 2" I do soletct that I have a right to ask, on what uccasio• irsiaa sod what hoppesieil The Lord the milord, bag been arkri in crows.rxarninatium, alit{ Is.ll said that he told a pecans he was a witness agaiust the Queeii, 1 apprehetnl you hays A right to ask all situations relating I that CiboTellllllloll. You may itrk filial question he asked.--crioe "fW elf. go no I .'') Did any conversation take place between bim sad 31r iriti, heroic he Sidled this his swine was Saccb s The Lord Chasicellot—aelsiire to his hair; a trauma on Ilse subject of the Quecu. Dot auy ronversviou take place between the witness and Ma r ietti before he stated that his name was Saccbt, and re' u tire to his being a witue s against the Qncet ? 31. Mt ried's brother gave me warning, stud told me that M. M 1- dent had told him that Mr. Brougham's brothers fonyft' —the brother of the Counsel of her Majesty, had full that hr was a widtess again.. the Queen. and be said tlist he had received some favor of the Deo brothers, and---- Mr. firongliatn—" Stip! stop! stop'—Now 1 subject to all that "---(Crier of" Order! order!" from the Itimislerta side of he More.) Mr. Bruogham (after having looked at the Noble Lures Oil the Ministerial belielser fur about half a minute) said, " Dui any of theiudzes choose tsslrcar use speak!" Lord Exinnuilt—" 1 believe we have • right to call tie CUMUICI to order when he is 4111 of order." FAH Grey- 0 lle bare a right to hear the Counsel— (lleur, hear)—aud I am sure it sushi he much better if there was wore regularity .—(llear, hear)—lf the Counsel think they ran best discharge these duty by übjecting melte answer cutout further, they have an usilustiaell right so to "—( /Icor. hear.) Lord Exmouth—l conceive that whip a witness is in the it is out au ricuhir tu SiOlt W V " e t w e ee un if ; r. a1.t.,41 I had a right to interrupt Cowan,' if I thought 1 us' sight—that is roy opitrioo. Earl Glary—l have rp, dorsi,' in Am world bat that Orr Cunewel was eitrap!ott ly regular. It is the Joy of Ca l omel to object to assurers, though only half give% it they are irrtlevaor, mid 1 think it "wild hare brat sollsh better sut to have isiterropted hiut.—(Haar, 141 Ir) Lord [noble 1 4 04 Eitintiath) sari that the imams overt out to bit tateeropled, althaneb whit the *imam,' •prears to he saying is illegAt. Oyes the Nobl Viscount suppose it is the duty of estoisel to hese a wrtaeis irate whilever be pleases ? ff he dues so consider it, I her he will be in good as to explain to the Honer out only the dusty of the Coarsaal, but also obi dbil of the vitamin.— ( /fear, boat.) Lop) Exissortlt-,k,Wheueser Noble Lords nap t• oldie" ibe HMI* I ant very glad of it, but I do Not choose 19 ob. ff p ie . Wit: