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R !A?Rp GIFFORD'S CO3IMISSIO_* II :1/ i '" ! I't PARLIAMENTARY INTELLIGENCE. 1101-SE OF I.olll*, THURSDAY, FEB. W. ..... At tee o'clock thief morning Lord Gifford swotted in the !louse, in robes similar to ►hose worn by the land Chancellor. There were also present the Ilishop of Limerick, Leeds Shaftesbury, lAnadown, bold Shaftesbury moved that the l'onmilsalon be read, appoint ing Lord thilked Ihputy Speaker of that !louse to beer Appeals. Charles Hine, Esq., the new Reading Clerk at the Table (nephew of the late Sir George Ituar,) accordingly read his Majesty's Cams mission, signed yesterday by the King at Calks* Palace. The Conin. - issioa net forth, that his late Majesty, on the 11th elide/eh, in the 59111 year of his reign, appointed Sir C. Abbott, Chief Justice uf the Court of King's Bench, to act to the House of larde, Ile Lord Chancellor and Lunt Keeper, la the absence td the Lord Chancellor. It then revoked that appointuomt. It also minnowd that the late Chicf Heron /Lelia:di was at the saws time Invested with the like appointußnt. The Cuitiniticiior, after such TOVOCII. tion and recital, proceeded to coo and and appoint Robert laird iiffunt to act in the House of Peers, um all respects se lamed Chian. Ctiloff and I amrd Keeper of the Great Mal, fo► the purpose of her. mug &mica's, Ile. in the absence of the twirl l'hattceH s. land Shaftesbury then itlifollll4Ml laird tiillord to the li'uolesck, and afterwards moved that• the mace be laid on lime Wixdsack be fore Ills Lordship. Motion agreed to. 'flu Sergeant-at-Arms (Captain tisponnst), accordingly bid the mace as the Woolsack. _ . . ...-... ...---. The Bohol, of Limerick having read players, Lord themd de. sired the appeals to be called uts. The first appeal was that of the fluke of Roxburgh, v. J. Owls. an, Writer to the Signet. Mr. Wetheesti, tbeht:toc.4l opet.ed the rose on the port of the appellitut, sod be was lulloZi a b on the %Mlle oute, at great length, by Mr. Jeffrey. We understand that a Couniiismoo similar to ih• one tooled to favour of the Late Chief Itarun Rich ards, is about to be wade out, eIIipIfINCTIN the present Chief Worm of the Exchequer (Alexsotter) to predde in the house of buds, should anagrams or the public businels nquire it. At four o'clock the arguenests In Appeals ended, and at the their Lordships met, and the LARD CIIANCk;LLtIIt wok his sent on the W onlsack. COAL. Dll T 1 EN. Lord K I NCI remota a Per &Tin, inhabitants of Mae head, in Nomersetahire, praying rues Kept/slot WI OD 4. Mill earned enastwipe.--thtleted to be laid WI the table. . rbetole Lord presented a Putnam petition teutts the inhaSitasie of %Vs.:axle, in Stumm:tallier, •htcb VMS dwurdcral to be laid on .the table. fiA ME !4W$. Earl et 11l /S%'6l( HI said that he hail received • petition to m otto to their lAvdships, on the subject of the limos Laws; but It act so Innerly and improperly worded, that be elsould retrain trams moving their leirdships to unlertain it; but at the same tune Ice entail not allow that oppoituhity to pass without odernig • few words on a subject that hail of late steamed so touch lospnetance, time lee hoped it would shortly attract their 'Antelope' attention. The gads of the country were crowded with pct eon colivicird noise' these INWI. &MI the evils they caused were every day theretuting. lie should have tit it his duly to have propped some IlleibUre himself, had not the subject been taken up in shadier plate, by • menthe, who represented a most imphstaut county, anti who, hoot Isis known habits, was me likely to set without Laing at 411111illICd with the views of al ifli%ll rs. At al l events, it was must desirable abatethis nuisance. Many 011.1111 expresse:l an 00111011 that the authorising the sale of guilty would diminish the quantity ; be, um the contrary, thought it would increase it by lowering the price, and by that beaus Mot make it is, much an object cif profit for aims who dealt in it, to destroy it for five purpose of gain, so much as they had Tern accustomed to .10. It had Item said that Ilvl4l spurts were tieressary tor country gentlentea, to induce them to live on their estates. That might be true to • certain extent, but still there were other avocations besides field apologia which gentle. men might be engaged • and if they inlerfcnd with the luippinois of the motile they ought to be given up. Ile wee, however, con vinced that die measure would tend to increase rather than diminish the quantity of game. One or two pheasant% might he abstracted both gentlemen's manors, but the lowering the prwe of pone would always preserve it. It might lower their I onlahips aristocratic jrkle to sell their own game ; but thomegssitlemen who had already sold game ought to have no scruples m that point. lie hoped their Luvoivhipa would turn their attention to the subject, which was in every point of view important..... ..... 110 Its LOMBARD-STREET. I~ I Their Lethlehipe Shcn arkjuumed. COMMUTATION OF TITHES. LEIIiAI V MITIKA. ItA NK 4)I EN(iI.% M). On the motion of the Earl of SIIA FTEPtlit %RV, the Ileum In lombanl-stmet Bill wo stml o mcond time. MOITSM OF COMMONS, Tsui:mac, Fcs. IL Mr. MACK prow, Inhabitants of the itoritth of Irockshani, Lannothire, praying for a ottoutitt tationthf tithesh—lAtid on the table. blr. 11111iDA LE presented a petition teem the Inhabitants of the town of Ifirtaingham, prayusg fora repeal et the Itguey duties.--letifil ea the table. LICENCE 1/UTIES. _ . lard W. HE•NTIY(K reunited s petition from the licensed victuallers and innkeepers of Worksop, an NottinglEumhire, a reduction the licence duties. „ A • law petition was presented by Mr. DEN3I.IN, hum the licensed victuallers and inflict-pax of Nottingham. Laid on the table. COAL DUTIES. bir W. lemon presenh4apt;thonhtai Colontb, in Cornwell, fire the repeal of the duties on coal carried coastwise. Similar pe titions were presented br Mr. Palmieri, ffollll the merchants of Bunun-Itmlatock ; Sir h. Knatchbull, from Tunbridge Wells, and another from ‘Vhitatable, Kent; Mr. Wodelminie , front the reeler and CilUrChllliftklll Of Eddington, Norfolk Mr. ltmg den, horn Lancaster; and Sir C. l ink, trait the propriety's of t.c colliery of Limped's, in tilainrganahire. Sir C. COLL observed, that in his opinion the (' lianceUce of , sly kiwrliequer was unite loudly called upon to reduce the duty tat yavi than any other las, because it visited with peculiar severity the pourer classes. As a very great number ot petitions had bet n'' laid before the llonse, undoubtedly an impression had been made on the minds of the blanker+, *nil he (Sir C. Coki trusted it weuhl have its effect when the subject was discussed behire them. Mr. T. U . I I,S4)N presented a petition titan a versim of the nall,t* Of IVatil, for a reduction ot the duties on vole. lle üb. scr‘rll, that he was anxious to rah the particular attention ot the Chancellor Of the Exchequer to this subject. The reCtilifil fur duties on wine, hunt hell to 1821, had etmaidenlily diminished; and this, although the actual duty unposed was much higher than it had pet viously been. Mr. 1111111, said, that If the subject were taken Into the consideration of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and a "him-- non inside of the duties at wine, he was convinced there would not ensue any Inas to the revenue, because the curiausilerim would be, in nonseimence, much greu:er. The revenue would mot then have to expend annually a large of spumy lie the prevention of smuggling. lie 1111 r. flume) was quite sure that the Chancel lor of the Exchequer *mill have an equal, or, perhaps, better re turn. and that the public would be far more satisfied. I'NIN'tKIi !SINAI' LON LAWS. 111,.111'M1 presented •pt fr he jOtitticy turn printers of I• 1141 4 ,11, for • repeal of the laws relative to the combanaturai u( worimarn. Ile observed that this useful ntrd ftspertable clue tnn•hwaies were often, with many others, in a situation in which they ca old obtain nu redress foe griorances, except by ounabinstioo •rd that they were frequently obliged by the law to Income breakers of the law. The petitioners also complained of the laws w Inch prcventri artisans Iran leaving time kingdom—Contwittol. 111/I . NSF.I. FEIAINS. Mr. 11. IA 3111 garc notice that he shookt postpone his motion to snow counsel tendons, front to-tnwruw to the 3d smelt. Mr. lilt ENFEI,I, rose to state the reasons which had induced him to brit.;; 'leeward his motion for an account of the balance of public money in the hands of the Rank of England, the charges of nuttucentetit, sc. Ile thought it absolutely necessary to state why 1w had declines, bringing forward the question which he bad specifically ilerlanll be Moods! not bring foulard, relatiie to the amnion of the bank nows in circulation. lie was not at first aware that he Outlast have had any difficulty to encounter • nor had he aintietpatcd any opposititni On tins palm. Ile thoug ht it 10.1 duty to enter his protest against tlw doctrine laid flown in the !louse by his Friend the Alentlwr for licamington (Mr. 31lati fungi. that as the Bank had now rsmmwd cash payments, It would lc as unjust to call upon the Bank ter u return ill the notes in elf. elllkttiOtl as upon any nal ividisal person. he (Mr. Greniiii) coosidered Ow great Irma which had then reputed in the Ilank, witch etas in )10824 , 5i01l of greater privilege+ duos bad ever hcen given to any other Icily, and the great respottaibility attached to this 0101, he thought it was the bintinten duty 01111 e house to See, trout time to time, how the 100e1•edillp were eATTitAI on, and what was the actual tame tot things. it must be recollected that there candid un Act of l'irliatitait, now in lire.,—the Stamp .let, whit h obliges! the Rank to give in a return to the Stamp ()nice Cot the proper regulation of stamps, of the number of note. named du ring slay year. There was also a clause its that Act which es. ple , sett. 11!.11 Whellteet the batik should Tellllle cash FAVIIICIOI{, I , oloe Of her means 100 s 1 hes...tried to, to compensate for the loss the Stamp Office would in conaupterce sustain. It was his (3lr. tirentell's) intention to wove ler an account of the balances of the aunts dcitostited in the public banker—the !lank ; and also tic charges of managentent. According to the accounts of last year. the balance 1 , 0 deposited amounted to four millions. At this rase he would now take it. Tbe balance was, therefore, iwinitely greater titan the service rendered to the country by the 'kirk. 'rite lime Int was now paving :I iser cent. us the Bank for la nal. Innis. the interest on wilieh impound to 1•:11.0001. 'There w ets . ninny inutile indicitinals, yr a handler of individuals. who would Iw 1‘11014 . 41 with a sum infinitely anitille—t2o.llolll. It followa that the country loses. and the !lank gains, Intkuool. annually. lie —mirk on the charges of insnagentent. this purpom wits nearly 1.441,01101. ; 41 might be, he was convsticed that anent for them. In this way also of 11011,1111101. S in tilts latter topic. lie I been ghat by the .Itionicy and so . Hank. Rut the !louse must not be depended altsigether tin the way in tat. umvinced that, idler the manner oto to the two haunted Itrutlemen, ern doh-rent decision 011 us 11101111. NCy the loss which had beat sus. tattled by the death of Mr.lloner, whose decided opinion had been, that there was nothing in the Act, or in the way in which the Act was framed, which could take from the House the power of rt•vi.ing the principles' on which the management was conducted. The i'll ANC ElsIA tit of the EX(:ll}4l.' lilt thought that it would be extremely hard on the Bank, cuosidering the circum stances under which it stood before the public, to call upon it for any statement burl' se the one alluded to by the lion. Member (3lr. I irerdell). Ile had no objection to the motion itself, and he did not consider it neceartary to advert to the other topics introduced by the lion. Marna, because no practical result mold follow the dekussion. The lion. Gentleman had very accurately stated that the bahowes of public money had diminished in the bands of the ltabk, :and consequently been rendered available to the public see. Ike. There could be no doubt that the Act paired by Parliament on that subject had been productive of great public advantage, and it was but fair to say that the Bonk had :toddy acquiesced iii the measure. As to the question of the nemesia mansgitneat, he diet not understand whether the Hon. (Indianan intanied to eafi upon the !louse to topes. airy specific oeinito ea to the propriety ut re dwing them. Though he did not pretend to be a judge of legal matters, be would not refrain from saying, that it appeared to 1800 that theroutels soignee* by the low 01Seers of the Crows for , their upittion ma that question, were solid and hubetantial ; anti thereby*, he wield not agree with the lion. lissideinen, that the lieu ee would be justified in "educing the elialget of renuogettant without the consent of the Bank. The house trued female:et that the Bank had vulutatarily agreed to reduce the charges on 114 ex cess of the debt beyond the amount exisiing when the bargatu was originally made. As loci as the Bank Charter was is furry he considered that eompossaine woo Melanie. Whenever a question of this kind muse, he wished the House always la bear In mind, ' that soder the stet arduous circosiouttires the Beek had cheer fully and essentially contributed to die well-being of the cannery, (hwar,thear. btu), and the Iloilo ought not to be watching for every opportunity of etraintng the laws to the prejudice of the Bank. Nu budy had rendered more impuront advantage, to the public 'mice, ousel on such discussion* as the present he trusted the con. duct of die Bank ea those tWeaanins would never be forgotten. I (Hear, Int.) Mir. Mr. 1 11 /.IIE said this was a *abject of the greatest itnpartanee, I 1 and be hoped his ,klejoty'e Government would take the earliest tans to free thouselyee from the trammels in which they had been , held by the Batik. Ile hoped that the (;ivenordese of the Exche , quer would limn so no pupae! from that quarter for a renewal of that the Might Ilene Gendenon would then pay off every idling the public borrowed from the Bank. The conduct of that body was most objectlonatele in prioripie as well as is practice. The 'lank was 1•01 i/ laccuming a kind uhf general pawnbroker in land, for the raki, it ma said, of die nursery gentlemen. 01 the capital of the Beak, II indlione were already tied up in the debt due by Go. 'eminent, and the neat they were about in tie up with the country geatleinem l'he anginal design uf the institution of the Rank was precisely the , reverse of their present practice. It was intended that ! they SWUM be ready, on any greet public einagemy, to aceol JJJJJ 0- dale tlic tioVertiliursd oat Callan( ere or the country wlth daicounte. Hut the Bank now kept up the rate of diorama at four per cent., while every other Hanker was, tell within throe few days, in the habit of thecuuntima good bills at three per cote Ile was all Or from meadow to the uptake' of his lion. Friend (Mr. Garai:llj, as to the aon-pnwhietion of the accoutsts of the Batik, that he thought the Ileum• ought to be furnished with a routs of the 4611- a/unlit of tliv Batik. I hue of the greatest advantages eapected to be derived from the existence of this greet liank,iog monopoly was its suppood facilitation of ensmarierciel discounting. In his opinion, the 'bower possessed by the blank was such as no company of Waken ou:;10 to lead. It was a power that could only be exercead fitly by lite 31ajesty'e government, acting under the control of this limo. It bad been argued, holm ver, that the 'cry government end trade of the country could rut be canted on toehold the facilities alkorded by the Bank, It was now evident that this ar. gement was errememia. Ile was cemvinceill, that, it' litotansiartat would pay uhf the Ili millions due to the flank, country gentlemen wasuld Alain loans with ease at Ye or 3 per rent. Ile trusted that three would be a register inquiry and examinathart Into ibis queatitu Wore the expiration of the Bank (barter. As to the charges ul management, there timid he to daunt that the llouse might reduce them. The lerriptin was made in IlidU. le 11110, a bill was passed, after wore neguenition between Mr. Pereeval and the Bank, in the preamble of which bill, it was stated, that, as the debt had greatly inereamel 'once the bargain was etruclailed, thereby, it wax reason. able that the , rate of charge should be sltered. hince ma, the debt bad ince:ascii one third Snore, and, therefore, nn the same principle, it was reasunable now, that some further alteration should tale place. The debt lied increased since Dena from elle 101100 millions. It appeared, in 1111. h, to a Conintinee of whirh the Honourable Member file nett ('astir was chairman, that the extra expense was only 130.1140111. On the principle in which the last alteration had been node, he roittentled it wuuld be equally wise and just to make a further alteration at the present dine, by which a toeing of latelot. at least would be effected. Sir H. PA KNEEL trusted that before his Majesty's Ministers node any arrangement with the Beek, an opportunity would be af forded of taking the inner et' the House on the expediency of re. stewing the charter. The custom had been for Govartament to make a bargain with the Batik, and in a few boars alicrwards to tall on the House to agree to it. I bear.) since the last re newal of the charter thine had been so much informattos obtained on the eubjee-t of We currency of the rountry, and the principles by which It should be regulated, that he hoped there would be a pre vious inquiry into the expediency of another renewal. It appeared to hint, that it was a immure not rapine( by any of the moat In. erects dot the country. and he trusted, therefore, that the House would not, as heretofore, be taken by surprise. lie could not un deretat.d, why the trade of banking ehould not be as perfectly free ae any other trade. Indeed, of all others, it was in this country the mot important, and the principle now broadly laid doss, and stn slily acted upon by the Hight ilonouratale Gentlemen appoint was, that the principle of for trade ought to be violated an no instance, rode es • stool; case could be made and to justify it. Mr. 3IA INNI NU said it was not his initiation to oppose the mo tion, ranch Ise cueneideved quite a distinct proposition from that tit the production o.',' the Mount of the Ilank-nous in circulation. ( he 'l'uesday last a return wae maple of the immune In circulation lot year. There was no desire on the part of the Bank toeonceal their tranesietione, and therefore the return was made, though he hoped it was to: the last tint?, unlearns the autlunity of l'iuliatiaent was again ' aimed to p prevent them from paying their notes in cob, because the House had 110 toilet right to inquire into the tremor nuns ut that tetablisliliwnt, don into thoee of sty private bank, r. Ile dish net object to tee proluetion of an acetone of the ',Mahe balances, braise' that was a noun with which the pulalic hati a char right to be aCquailited. The Honourable Mover had allutlat to the produetion of a certain return tp the Stamp-office. thaloubt edly, the aVtlage alliolllll or tame. In circulation for three years rod het at returned ; Red, acconling to law, it would be continued for the public pure see stated by the thin. Mo v er. li nt the lb w . Uealllcliliai thought he bad a rattle to know the annual amount of Mho in circulation. This was a proposition of • Navel nature. The 'louse would next be moved to cull tor a return of the Sitioula IA disaliiiiile. and Own lie saw nu right that multi restrain them trout callitag fur the list of bills discounted. (Hear.) If they enter, d npun this mimeo investigation, he dial nut sec where they (lola stop. Uttar, hear, hear.) There was Ollly one other pant tin winch lac conceived it neecesary to trouble the House; sad lie sheuld do so ebortly,as he had so often before made the saute state ment. 11'hen the charges of management were animadaeried 1111011, the lion. Gentle-mei' did not Consider the mole in wiateh the public bueintem was couducted. In theme Cliarbow was included ale whole risk of forgery. 11'hatever loss was anotaimel by that' means sas no communicated to the 4 ltancellor of she le/chequer ; ' and the whole Owego:, emarbiunat as it was desenbcd, amounted toed! to 7d. in every lila took. l'here was a pint in the speech of the lion. Member for Aberdeen, which he slam telt bound to notice. The Ilan. Gentienuen had charged the Directors of the Bank with leveling their assistance to the country gentlensett, a practice whirls the Hon. Gentleman asserted was contrary to every • principle on which baulking ought to be conducted. By the charter, the Directors of the Bank were empowered to purchase! hunk, tenements, and hereditatuente, and hold alum in their own right .There was adman Act posed is the reign of King 11' dhow. to encourage the Bank to advance money on teed ; but till now tha Itarectont had not coneidered it expedient to avail themselves of ' it. .leer tlw complaints inside against the Kink, for the supposed want of aeconattnelation, it was not a little singular to hear a, charge preferred against thrill, because they had deviated foul', , their onlinary course, to relieve the tarteeure of sericulture! dis- I trees. (Item.) • Mr. ELLICI: said the argument of his Honourable. Friend (Mr. Hume) was, that it' Isis Mersey's Government repaid the Bank, 1 i it would (iambic thou to miouwe money at a cheaper rate genetally.' (iloir, hear.) ll' the Bank of England was only a chartered body i like tore of Scotland, and open a. they wire to tale competition, the armaments of the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Manning)! 1 would be unasetwerable. But the Bank was an exceptiun to all the aanlinary rulta of trade. It wee a *teat monepoly, possessing inivilegee not enjoyed by any clam of he Majoaty'e mantels. At present the Bank aloe nitre contrary to all routtnercial principle..' • hasten! of uestag its capital for the aidvantaac and meoritinode ion of Ira& , its a li.le conduct latter'' bad teen regulated by a d it. ' lerelit principle. ill ear, hear.) The count. introsol by the Bank Iwas in favour only Of th e ' great capitalist. The nee at which the Bank dim:minted *andel net adieet the rate at which he borrowed, i but it dial effect the rate at which every nian thecounted with hie banker. I Hear, W.V.) The unwary rate of th.count had of late been 24 or 3 per cent.; it had certainly not varied within these ten dare; hut the !lank tit Enotand required 4 per cent. By its tend; the oral' of every other banking canyon was governed. Then as in the 11110111er In winch it elliploytal its capilid. 140111 e Or it was adVallcill Oh the deed weig ht; tineeti millions wore were lent oil inisctrivelit IhCeuritit... an the met was now about to be had out an mortgagee. lie did not believe that half a million was invested ill comelier:online, and they were necessarily the worst in the county. %Vas that Home, then, nut to ask what was the 31110110 i of ktailkllllpct ill circulation? In elute ot' a petiolatel eitiergeney, how, in its present situation, could the Bank give any assistance to may interest ? if it was premed, it ninst either distress Unseen uncut by sellsoF k:xchequev bills, or call upon the country gentle men to pay ott dirty mortgages. Such must be , the e&cts that would natelt from a suable,* change in the money market. Hr, therefore, would have asked tor the amount of the discounts by the Bank. lie did nut see why it ghoul., be so jealous of exposing its concerns. 'The link of } ranee made a publie statement, not only M' die amount en its discounts, but of the a 1111 l unt of the bull in its cotters, of its paper in circulation, and of its annual profits. %Vas she Bunk of France in worse credit there than the Bank of Englaol bete? lee wits pereuseled that if the flank of England name be induced to an on more liberal principles, and showed rte istaraounahle jealousy as to the ea petition of tlw numner in which it thaisowtt or it. capital, it would °begin pure credit toe the manage illevi of its atikirs, and more contiderwe in its solidity. lie hoped the opportunity would not be hat of repaving the hank , because it would retake the Government independent of that body ; anti that was a Matter of importance., especially when the renewal or th e , chance came email conselreigion. Behoved the eauw power would' never again be egelusively given to the Bank. lie trotted that the discussions of the left seven years would induce tiovernment hesitate before they attempted to renew the charter. lie could not but express his astonishment at the tone in which the Chancellor of the .I:xchequer had replied to the observations of the lion. Mover. The Right lion. Ilentlenian said the House ought not to strain the law to the prejudice of the Ilan k. The Right lion. tienticthan hail no reason :o feel alarmed that the !lank would sustain any injury. it heed amassed immense gains from its connexion with the public. lie remembered hank Stuck at 1:10. Shim then the Proprietors had received bonuses to half that amount; they had received the must 11110(1110{11 profit, ever known, and Insides made a great addi tion to their capital Singe the renewal of the charter. price of 'lank Stuck 1111141 ouw 2MI. (Hear.) The Dank could not accuse the public of want of liberality with that result staring them in the face. With respect to the charges of nianagensent on the public debt, be woold read an extract front the conrcspundence in Mutt, which • would fully justify his lion. Friend ( Mr. Houle) in contending fur the reduction of those charges. The Right Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Eaciseemer) argued, that it was impossible, without a breach of contract, to alter those charges. From this ex tract it • ill be evident, that In the opinion of .11r. Percival, at the 411.1111 Ito war writing, there was nothing in the compromise then made that precluded Parliament thou suing again into the subjtct. lie thereinto begged the attentien vf the lionise to the paragraph which was *elected trout the letter in which Mr. Perceval seceded to Kane proposals to the Bank ilirectuts. lie said, "1 sus strongly indicted to pee way to the minor points urges' by you, in centiele rat km, that, so far as they apply they relate to an arrangeusent under present circumstances or fur a short period." (Hear, (rear.) The debt had since them increased from six to eight hundred millions; end, alter reducing every public department, and keying a tag spun the incomes et the higher claw ut public servants, who stl well gamed all they received, was it not monstrous to pretend that the House could not examine into the prepridy of the enormous aunual peynients made to a banking dustpan, who were tile less entitled consideratuin cm account of the immense profits they had made front the public 7 (Hear, hear.) Air. I.I.IHSE defended the conduct of the Bank. which, in re spect of its management and public utility, had nu dims] in citadel:Fe. Mr. BARING said it was unnecessary then to dieeuse the pro. privy of the renewal of the I 'fierier, as no one had yet monomer it. It *weld be quite thus to iCiscues the useeeure when it wax brought refund Ina tangible shape; aud, when it was, he trusted it would be coneidered with all the deliberation which so immensely imijart_ wit a subject deserved. It was not a subject that could be treated lightly. Because we were its a state of peace, and the revenue ex ceeded the eepeialiture, and every thing appeared to be going on mice lily and quietly, it was set to be interred that hiovnrnaient could do without agrees Bank acting se their beaker and on which the eircialatiou attel revenue of the country should hinge. If any Members were of an opposite opinion, he was inclined to be here they would bud themselves deceived if the dangerou* expert. meat were tried of doing without the Bank. Great &oho., he thought, might be reasonably entertained, whether it would be is wide toe Government to inure without such an establishment WI the Bank of longhand. Still that was no reason why its regulations should not be open to getural discussion, and its bargains with iliiii vereauent modified accurdieg to the cireaue tutees under which they were made. As to the question of public balancen, the case had been must unfairly stated by his lion. Frierid ( Mr. Grenfell), who,' though answered over sod Over again, he must say, persisted in leepiiiit the answer as far as be could out of sight. His Hun. Friend stated, that on a balance of four u.illiens the country lost lUU,U(MIL Now his lion. Friend knew that this formed part of the consideiation 043 ilia renewal of the Charter. It was one of the ad. ' vantages he which the Bank had muds compensation. The ha. lances used to be six tannin's% and uow they were only tour. %Fhb respect also to the debt due by I iuVertillielit. it was sue, ilia • though the Kink had lent its capital at three per cent., this was now no ad vantage to the public ; but when the loan was made the case was iliderent. It was dais a treosact ion of great advantage to the pub lic, though that rd itself rate certainly no objection to its being ! terminated now, when it conks be dune beneficially, uuless the money could be better elapkiyetl. The lush* made by the Batik op mortgage he considered a great benefit to the reunify geue. rally (hear, hear, hear), and it was an mouton in traVolle tot the Beek which ought not to be overlooked, that in the can of a great alteration in the rate of capital, he knew not in what other way the difficulty could Le met, than by means of a great establishment like the Bank, which, by lending at a reduced but , net, enabled the benefit speedily and at ones to reach all the cur. ners of the kingdom. At the ulnae time he admitted that in point !of principle the ilitienne was extremely doubtful, for the Bank was liable, by consulting the cOlivelkieliee of the moment, to be betray ,ed into a iiituetion the most dangerous Mr the State. (lieu, hear.) Siippeentig that we were again p lunged into thin mieeteble eundi tiin, in which a retiree! of the impel circulation because tieceoet. ry, aid the tueds of the Daub of Etiglatiel were locked up on mortragre, lie could coeceive no situation more pregnant with slats ' gee. The flank was also now hammered with a large additional engagement fur the payment of the . neeat and niditery peneions.. Admitting that the couutry !mind forward to remain in a crate o f peed:avid peace, still it was theiraLle that it should be prepared for the puesdnlity of war as the best means of preserving peace. It ought therefore to have a bank, as well as an amity and vary, to resist In its defence. But if the plank was lending on mortgage, besides being under All engagement to advance 13 millions to Go vernment in the bargain for the payment of the nasal cud military ng pendi*, it was dl suited loaner on a war of any importance ur extensave exertion. Though lie was sensible theiefore of the ad- vantage derived at the present moment, he could nut shut his eyes to ale danger of them• transuctions as to the future. And hay. lug thus is:cid wally mentioned the charge arising ham the dead weight, it was luipootible for him to pace it by without recalling to the memory of the Hauer the derided cemdentuation the bar. gain with the Bank had universally met with, oil the ground of its impolicy and extrevagance. From his quarter had the Night Honourable fientleman (the Chancellor of the Excite toi received any encouneeenient; and the nnly excuse that could be offered for any man of sense bringing forward such a mea sure was, that lie had been betrayed into it from hix fi ar of aban. dotting it, lest it should be considered that lie was reeling a reflec tion on the conduct art his preeletwoor. (licar, hear.) The gene. ral character and known abili y of that Hight lion. Gentleulan made it impossible that he could have acted upon any other iwinci. pie. But it was a question on which he ought to have made no such entices . By that bargain the Right lion. Gentleman had, op a sun of 13 millions, made a complete sacrifice at one million and a half. Stripping it of all the details by which it was cunfueed !sod retidered unintelligible, the scheme was pees-hely this :—At the nine the Three per ('cuts. were 74, a loan was coirrected foe with the Batik for live years pmts act ively . lite produce of the loan Was to be applied tile purchase of stock ; ins that here was the lii/Veftillitalt bumming at 71, on a prospective certract for five years, to buy up again at 911; and as the probability was that if we continued at peace the Three per (tents. would seem he at par, here was the lieveminent burrowing at 71 in order to redeem at 1110. l'he answer would he, perhaps, that it was true the stocks had t hoe, but it was also true they might fall. Ile denied that this answer would vindicate the Bight honourable Gentleman, lee. Call4o the bargain was maniketly an operation that no man of sense woidil have entered into if wife was likely to be main teem', every probability being then in favour of a progreeeive rise in the stocks. 1 on the other hand, the country became involved in war, Goverimient had choked up the Bank with this pros pective contract of thirteen millions. In either case the bargain was equsUy to be condeinewd. If war took place, our mean. of carrying it mu were taken from us by this unfortunate contract. If peace con tinued, the result was what we had wen. a Ines of a million and a helf. lieu:quitted the Mein Gonuurable Gentleman of the folly 'of urleinating the plan. Bight Honourable Gentleman had dune mails his power to introduce order and simplicity into the eta_ doted accounts. The statement oldie receipts antlexpenditure lambi laid before the !louse was plain and obi Mies to every person. The only unintelligible iteul on the face of the account was this tram action oh the naval and military pensions. lie defied any one to read It through with rand:tenon. Be %timid find himself ' , topped by a sil operation which he could not uederetand, and would throw it down nt disgust and indignation, merely on that account. There was another rift:um:dance to which he 'diem's' advert bethre he concluded. It has beam suggested that it would he desirable to pay oil the debt due to the Mak, in order to renderthe Govern ment independent of the Benk. There could, hr apprehended, be no difficulty in boninving the thirteen millions due to the hank at any time, and therefore he laid aside the considerntiset of this plan for emancipating the pita:T.lll)(4a from its suppostsi dependence on its creditors. It would be better, in his opinion, to discuss the question of the Sinking Fund folly, after the flight Honourable Gentleman had given a detailed view of the finances 411 the country. for the Inn/pose of Inquiteig how far it would be the. suable, as weal as the 3 per cents. were at par, to Itlopropt isle the surplus recenue to the payment of those Guinea which must be paid in nioney ; whether, nomad of reducing the 4 per cents. it would nut be better to apply the morphia to pay WE the thuoing debt. Ily the reduction of the I.i:tele/spier Bills. Government would re. deem ttttt ney that they oiled at par, mid rot, as its the caw of the Sinking Fund, be repaying at lOU what they bad borrowed at 50 or lb) The Exchequer Bulls acre what they were always liable to be called opal 10 pay, and lie thought, therefore, i. be sel vkable. under every vie:- of the caise, to reduce them. lay tlu operation 4 coneiderehle relief would be obtained in the most effi catlistie manner. (II car, hear ) Mr. 11. I t•EN EV said ti few words, which were inaudible in the gallery. II Ir. AEI I IFIGX said, lie was convinced that the Bank had a profit of I 20.00101., tit inore, tie itiemagieg the public debt. Ile was satisfied to pay the Bank et liberal end fair puce, last hr would tan give these the sum they navel. It nes said that the Bailie row diiscolinted at 3 per Cent. but a full ine,stigation Would *hew that they hail neatly double that suns. Let a 11111 l of this Ilinise inquire, and give a fair remuneration ; hot ag a in he slid, l e t Om not be paid mote than sas necessary. With real 4 et 10 their bar gain as to the military and naval poisione. he renerived it lament able indeed to the public, that out of El millings, the Italie gained nut lees than a million and a half. If Mat *ere managed WilliOul the Bunk, the paililic would he gristly benctite.'. Ile could !warmly areount list the adoption hf that ill-beeotten mid &Mimed child of th e late chioiciliew, by it man Or tie: excellent ilti&taln:altrg of him yllO S.Ow tilled that eititai ion. Ile litiped, lion eVer. that watt thing *still yet be done on this subject, for one 1110fe to lie depre cated meld eel by possibility be conceived. let the 111 , 111ke ap. point a I'wnp:uiuu, at.ti he was sum the country would derive a great adventsge . from it. . . . . _ Ur. 311 I Ni• considercil that the licnk 11.34 li lc, not otily to 'injure itsylt by lending on mortgage, but vlso 113.• ill the event of a wise, whet, perhaps, they would come ilowit and ask for ICAVC to 1,116. 6 a 1 1 611661 currency. The Pink shoebi recol lect what Ofetirreil in 181:i. relotive to the hooka of the coutory banks, which generally fat cil. though thee warr.ah•tnt iti Intl yet could 11.6 t 1111t1m: tLcirpap:WOOL . I . llc eX:11111.le of the Dank of Frame; 51,01.13 folle , A NI in the country. There bigotry annually took plate, anti they wire only allowed to sharccenati profits; any ovcridus heirg laid by. as a security in C. 0.. 611;16 16414 r issue, or 4:7 uthtr inotsint; 0,11111'1,16. TL, b:st ii.oste 011 applying our surplus would be, to pay or the fourteen millions we owed the Bank, and thereby secure an increased capital for effecting discounts to the merchants. The money lent by the Bank to the country gentlemen did little service, while its application in that way lessened their means of serving the merchants, for which pur. pose the Bank was instituted. The !louse should recollect the bankruptcy of the Bank in 1797, and the result which ensued, that an ounce of gold, for the lint time in the world, only repre sented one quarter of wheat. What then was their paper worth on the Continent Ile knew that in Malta a pound note was only worth three or four dollars in hard cash. lie was sure that a dozen re spectable merchants of the city of Lo:olon would do gratuitously, that for which the dank was now paid 300,00111. Ile had no wish to trespass further on the time Of the (louse; but of this he was certain, that the whole question of the Bank concerns, particularly as regarded its government agency, should meet a full and prompt inquiry.. —The returns were then ordered. 11r. irelifell) would now mil Ile believed the sum pod for tl I hniever the soviet, rentlertd Iretilltlll. would lie ample pays there might be another saving .1 114'4 ilWare that an opinion had itelier tieneral in futotir ef the an opinion on a rase d which that ease wit. put ; he n, in w huh lit owll state the ea% would both conic to a ver ilr 11Ir. liteMvilt regretted del THE NEW GAOL ACT. Mr. PEEL said, it would no doubt be in the recollection of the House, that in the course of the last Session he had introduced a bill fur the better regulation of gaols. Some doubts had since arisen upon the construction of some of its clauses, and his object now was to bring in a bill which uls'.uld prevent th e existence of any doubt. By some accidental omission, the counties of York and Lincoln were not included in its general operation. In thesecounties, which were divided into districts, licneral Quarter Sessions were not usually held, and hence some difficulties had arisen, which it would be the object of his present bill to renu dy. Amongst the other amendments was one to enable the magistrates whit had jurisdiction over certain small gaols, to make contracts for stooling persons committed Ito them to the county gaol; for it must be obvious to every one not only that those small gaols were very inscrure, but.that abuses were committed in them which should be prevented as soon as possible. It would be highly advisable to have but one gaol in one county, for by that means a unifiemity of discipline would be secured, and the danger resulting from the abuses of small local gods could with much more facility be checked. in the small gaols there were not often to he found more than half a dozen pri bonen, anti it was natural enough to suppose that the visitation fumed so useful in larger gnols was rarely, if ever, extended to them. This evil he now proposed to cure. Another amendment was one to which he way sure there could he no objection : he meant as to that part of the Act of last year which mimed to the entioloyment e f prisoners. Ile had no hesitation in saying that the spirit of the last Art never contemplated that prisoners, before trial, should be subjected to hard labour (cries of hear, hear), either on the tread. mill or on anything similar to it. Bin, to do away with all doubt upon the subject, he would now propose a clause to prevent the nu. ploy:sent of persons, before trial, on the treadmill. (hear, hear.) 114 Honourable Member tie Shrewskury had given a notice on the subject, but as that was only conditional, he (11r. Peel) was sure of meeting his concurrence in the amendments which he should propose. it was unnecessary at present to enter into further detail, and he should therefore move for leave to bring in the sir. E. KNATt:11111 'lsis begged to express his thanks to his Right Ilan. Friend for introducing this very necessary and useful measure. At the same tittle he thought it would be very desirable to extend its advantages to persons convicted on sentence, but of which sentence " hard labour' formed no part. By Wine recent decisions it would appear that counties could compel persons to work fur their subsistence while in confinement; but as considera ble doubt existed as to the propriety of such a practice, ho hoped his Right lion. Friend would nut lose sight of it. Sir 'F. IsETII Ilk I INik; complained of the heavy rate imposed upon counties in paying for the transfer and maintenance of pi I worn. The expense of criminal justice had now become so formi dably great—it had so far out-reached the control of the Magistracy, that it demanded speedy investigation, to say the least. lie hoped the Right lion. the Secretary of State, in his new principles of legislation, would hold out some hope of granting a Committee for the purpose of inquiring into the best mode of alleviating the county expenditure, and also the assessments of the toot's rate. The (laid Act of last year cost the county which he had the honour to represeut a large sum of money, as well as other counties, and that he feared without any sufficient equivalent.. Colonel Wt 101) was of opinion that the Gaol Act was onerous in all, but particularly so on all the smaller counties ; and he hoped the bill now proposed would exempt all the 11'elch counties from the classification clauses of the Art. In the gaol of the county which he had the honour to represent , there would be required • sum of no less than .I,lliMil. to retake it conformable to the Iwo Act, while the number of prisoners confined did not exceed from a dozen to twenty. Now, surely, it never could have been intended to throw such an commotion the county, without any advantage to be derived front it, either to the county itself or to the prisoners who might be confined. Mr. 111 011IOUSE observed, that the lion. Member for Somer. setsbire (Sir T. lemhbridge) had chosen a very singular time to complain of agricultural distress. The lion. Member did not seem at all to have attended to the Report of the Committee, nor to have adverted to the wrong measure of that innovation—the tread mill, which he (Mr. Hobhouse) sincerely believed would be found, on as attentive examination, not to answer its intcoded purpose. Although that mode of discipline was applicable to every one con. (icon to pristm-lal.our, yet it must he acknowledged that while all were compelled to the cattle degree of labour ' each in dividual had a different capacity to support it. The weak and the strung . were undistinguishingly subjected to it. There was no previous examination as to those persons fur whom it would be too revcre, and those who were able to endure it ; and thence it followed, that the week sutlere d an excess of punishment be. yund that to which they must be considered to have been sentenced. lle was aware that if a person were an ill as to be sent to the hos. pital, be would not be sent to the mill ; but in all cases a liberal discretion should be exercised, which, he reirettcd to say, had not lately been the ens.. lie could not help seeing that such a punish mart might become& dreadful engine of oppression in the hands of the magistracy • and how any living being, in • country calling it self flee, could lend his concurrence to such an astonishing snows 'ly in our ef ' .al jurisprutlentm, lie was really at a loss to conjec ture. III:could not avoid strongly reprobating the conduct of those magistrates who had assumed to themselves a new authority hither. to unknown to the law, and at variance with every feeling of huma nity. If the magistracy persevered in such a conduct, in place of being a blessing to the country they would become its curse. They were too apt to shew dieIIISCIVIIII as a part of the I invernment, and it was highly creditable to the Right 'knowable Gentleman (Mr. Peel) to read them them the wisr and salutary lesson conveyed in his proposed Rill. Ile (Mr. llobhouse) begged to or It the ma gistracy in what code they found a pretext for the exercise of that authority which they had recently assumed ? The only answer he , had heard was, from the Member fur Yorkshire (Mr. S. Wort ley), who said, they thought that the last Gaol Art gave then' the power they exercised. itut he (Mr. llohholiso on that must say, that their consciences must indeed be pretty nearly on • par with their knowledge when they could have adopted such a notion. Ile hoped that every possible provision would be made to prevent wanton or indiscres t persons from the power of inflicting a most waoton and unequal putiishment. 31r. A blernitut Vil tO1) was no friend to Magistrates having the authority of inflicting summary punishments; but it' punish ment were to be inflicted he NM no objection to the tread-mill. A mill similar to that had lawn used lit/ the last century in the va rious quays in this metropolis ; and what was found useful to the purposes of commerce in the port of lemrlon, could rot be fairly object...ll to as a mode of punishment. %Vith respect to the complaint made by the Ilotuiurable 3ltinher for Smnersetshire, as to the county rate: he thought it came with a very had grace in. dell; for the Ilouse Man obliged to compel the Magistrates to build a proper goal be tore they would consent to nice so neeesaary an expense. Ile (31r. .11dernian I('otali decied the insufficiency of the control enjoyed by Comity 3lagistrates—for the fact was, that day had a countrol over every expenditure, save and except that occasioned foe witticisms attending trials, which was generally exercised I.) the Judge. Sir C. COLE said, that if the classification clause of the last Goal Art were tr.foreeil in the comity he had the honour of re presetting. it would create an unnecessary expense of neatly I WOOL, ,e bile the average number of prisoners conflate' in the goal, I did not amount to more 1111111 half a dozen penoins, and then axi mum goweally to eighteen. Mr. I:l'.l\S said that the thief advantage of the punishment consiattsl in the (wait) a ith %hie, it could he rendered mill and ' mitigated, actwrding to the a ill of those under whom it was 'dud ; noster. d. 1 Secretary the subject at present under discus si atoll des( Tv., investigation. let an inquiry be forthwith instituted. The system clearly app. an faulty, and I have heard no emenna. lion Of its blobs, though I have hear,: much cavilling at the pro. posed rein, dins for these admitted den rt If. II has Fern said. that setae pubiie lima or sonic inlice should he !maimed with the re ceipt of 1,, il impositions, and provi.;e, as n.cvssities should arise, for local necessities. But such ait rester. as it 5, vims to me, would be very ridiculous. The expense that falls upon counties. front the prosecution of felons, is very and the most ellictual anode of reducing that exie se is it:et:retail:a regulation of prkens. Att obit etion has burn raised as to the eureike upon 1 know iit no other modl In abinit that ob:!ection can be net, than the 0110,1 , 1iliall1)11 of those sti!..ll counties. 1 n•rtaittly should nut think Of I , ll!Cliirg to three er tour id the 11'elch counties uniting together. and erecting a joint prison. regard to the imputa tion n.aile by the Ilininundile 3:.11.1 , ,r fur %1 estininster. upon the manlier of conducting p 'shinetit in the tread-mill. I can assure hit, (11:11 I have, as to the eni•et of that specks of labour, inquired of every ruder in the coultrt. The rim& of those inquiries 11tro. pow.. speedily to lay before the Horst., and it will be seen, I hest. late nt tto say it, that a milder system of p *shment, and nice 1.,01 bilble tt rouse, was never hcroto invetutd. The Honourable 31emiter will recollect. dui it is by I ressore, by Ow weight of the agent, if I any so denottlielt: him, that the lahour is pertimnrd. Now, if this escrtion eideebli A the tr.mie, or affects the health of tile hid!, total subjeettil to IN. irtnishmert. I shall be glad to be turttisled a i:11 the particular itis!a:!..e: for, if toy information is correct, ro ' Anal 1t,,. ever y.r left the tread-mill whose Ite..llli was mu t isilti hum veil, and s hos • weight WAS not inmate's! by the t, and industry. and I...rseverance, arc. in keg. requisite.. Mr the tultilment cf the discipline of the tread-mill. The Honourable 31imber will recoil..., that it is by mounting up steps that the Liamr is perform!, and the lahtnireirs are employed for a quartt.r of a't haotr at in!,. time. The obit...lion, then. of the lion. 31einItt•r. is ensile ansietnsi. If there is to be foutol in the moody of the prison-!:Leper one titan itta snore weakly habit th .n another, the relit'st man m.y take the second tarn, and the weak man be exesented front eh:. second turn; and, in point of fact, this is the grand i.i.tioetion of the stint to. lir. Ili Halt /1 . :" . '—V.41, h o t it ktactedon. no upon. : . . Alr. : , ,:eretary if rot. it is not th:r fault of the sritcm, but of those who ex atlmizister it. As fat as abuse ii einwerneil, Of 110 systelli less liable to abuse. be_ taus: tb, lahiair is pri•rfoiamol--in the presence of many win Walt r,..1), et to as insi:o , co of solitary oppression, arisior, perhaps. from igiawaree of the provisions of the Act, rather titan any disiaisitioti to abuse it. be shoithl say codling. be cans...mit an ihstattre could thief occur, mulct* the ituAlifiestion• at the proposed Bill. Lae was thin given to br",: , g i 3 a Lill to attend the said :keg. CONSOLIDATION Of JURY ACTS. Mr. Secretary l'EEle then roseliorthepurp — o4Of moving for leave to bring in a Bill to consolidate and amend the laws relative to the su 1111111 l 'ling and impanelling of juries. It was quite su. perthmus for hint to attempt any eulogy upon the excellence of the trial by jury--a theme which had exhausted every term of praise, and every 10r111 of panegyric. lie trusted too, it was equally un. necessary for hint to assure the Blouse, that in the introduction of this Bili, relating as it did to the trial by jury, he sought not to weaken or to impair the excellence of that system. My object, continued the Bight lion. secretary, is to consolidate, and in some unimportant respects, to amend, the various laws connected with this spout.; and when I state to the Rouse that there are now upon our Statute Books twenty different Acts connected with some of them ludicrously enough connected with, the summoning of juries, I think I have suited a ea,e which calls earnestly far some consolidation of these Statures. If the very attempt at an. averring this question, who may, or who may not serve as a n inm, requires a reference to all these twenty Statutea—then do I sac, that such a state of uncertainty, and such an accumulating of is. boor upon so simple a subject, should, in the way that I propose, be dinimislied. flat it is no easy matter, from the titles of them Acts, or of some of them at least, to conjecture that they hare a re. remove to juries. I have selected the tides of one or two of them, which may serve to illustrate this s t a t ement . I find, for instance, ' An Art for the more easy recovery of small tithes and the summoning of juries." Now it fe not easy to conjecture the precise connexion between small tithes and jurors; ontioi ere pthmr majores, but so it secured gond to the framers of the Act, who had both objects before their eyes at the passing of this statute. I lied next, "An Act relative to va. grancy, for exporting leather, and for the easing ()limits." I find then, An Act to prevent the clandestine sale of run goods, and for the exportation of silk stuff; and the summoning of juries." There is another Act, 6 ` exempting apiv !wearies from serving the office of scavengers or jurors." My proposition is to take those laws and place them under ore head, and thus to fix and conso lidate them. The 'louse will not fail to observe that many of these Acts were passed fur a mere temporary purpose, but they after wards got interwoven with perpetual statutes, and are now as much law as any statute of the realist. %Vitt: respect to any amend. meats that I have to propose, I would willingly defer their discus. skin until the consolidation is effected. I *hall thus secure myself front much misapprehension, and possibly from what every man, circumstanced as I am, must feel deeply the consequences of ex. p sing linrelf to—i hag correspondence. My eh o amendment, noweeer, shall certainly refer to extending the qualification of ju rors. I shall also propene tumie for enforcing the attendance of juries, and for regulating the title of persons 'qualified to attend, divesting of that power the petty officer to whom so important a trust is now c HAW, and trstisferving it the Magistrates at Quarter Sesaions. At present I shall abstain from entering more fuDy into detail on this subject. After the bill has been introduced, and printed, an opportunity will be offered of going f u ll y i nto i n dia. cussion. The Right non. Gentleman moved that leave be given to hrirg in a bill to consolidate and amend the laws relative to Juries. Sir J. NEWPORT rose to express a hope that some measnrii of a similar nature would speedily be adopted with rtspeet to Ire-. land, where the power of summoning juries war now confided tothoso who were most unlit to exercise it. A separate measure. however, he was convinced, would be required for that eouotry. The people were always jealous of power, becaus, with them it meant °ppm- Mon; and when they saw power confided to the mea.wst and Most worthless members of society, it was nut to be conxidered that they viewed it with even more than their habitual jealousy. Hence anise much of those evil passions, which occasionally raged through that ill-fated country, and which seldom died in mere passion, but, growing up to deep revenge, wreaked the mse l ves upon t h e i r real or fancied lie would undertake to convince the House that great evi were in Ireland to be deduced from the present jury Mr. WOI/EIIOI.7SE said that the country would feel, and justly, very grateful to the Right lion. I ientlernan for the extreme attention and ability which he had applied to this important sub. ject. In many of the counties of England the attendance of special juries was moat remiss, and unquestionably, as far as the proposed Lill applied its mnedies to that inconvenience, it would &verve ' well of the country. In 111irldlesex, to which some allusion wan made in the last S"saion of Parliament, the attendance was re. markably scanty, and some provision was clearly necessary for such a limited attendance. Mr. lil'Jlli ob se rved that his anxiety was to choose the Jury by ballot, and thus to prevent the interference of any officer with the selection. The othccr was thus placed beyond suspicion, and, indeel, he knew it to be the wish of the most honourable men that the duty was not so onerous or suspicious from its very nature. Ile thought it right to say, that an officer to whom he had referred last Session, and whose conduct he had since been coovinced was I all along extremely honourable—that returning officer felt the greatest anxiety to have himself relieved from a very responsible, and to him, a very disagreeable duty. lie had an opportunity since of knowing that gentleman, and he declared that nothing would give him greater pleasure than such a modification of the law as would relieve hint altogether from the pertbrivance of a very unpleasant Juty. Ile thought the proposed an exceedingly beneficial measure, and if the Hight lion. Secretary would apply his industry and intelligence to the consolidation of the laws gene. rally, he would do more service to the country than all the Secretaries of gate that hod sat in that place for the last fifty years. Such a simplification would indeed confer upon the country an essential benefit. !le was led the other day to inquire into the Causes of the expense attendant upon the election of a Proctor—an inquiry which he had instituted with ree ferenee to a motion which he had shortly to submit to the House. A wiU was proved to the amount of 301. upon which, for merely adding to it a few words, the Proctor's charge was I/. 10s.; an other, for the same quantity of writing, but to a will w hi c h left to the party a more cousidcrAble stun, the Proctor's charge for it was 201. Now, upon inquiry, he found that in an Act of Parlia. fluent introduced ter the regulation of tithes, the present Lord Stowell and Sir John Nichol! added a clause to prevent any person ' becoming a Proctor who had been employed in the Prerogative Court. A tumult wait instantly excited among the Proctors. and forth they came to the doors of the lobby. a nd by their chumuurs prevailed upon the iqtenious fabricators of the clause to Inntli:y it to apply to those who bad been a certain time employed in that Court. 3lr. ti. LA 31 rt did not rise to oppose the tneavure of the Right Ilan. *aerial, because he kit that them would be ample time for its discussion at a future stage. lle how. ver viewed with jealousy 'all these new Consolidation Acts, and they bad on that vrry night seen tile effect of such novelty in legislation. They had beck dis cussing a measure which two years since had been passed. after much debate, havirg fie ins object the consolidation of the Prison Laws. They had now, too, the Hon. 31i:tuber for Abcnlcen callir upon them to re-model the whole statute law. Ile would mush sooner search out th gh all those antiquated statute►—lur:icruos as sonic of the .Icts with which they were Collateted arpeaorrl to the Ilouse,—he would much more willingly mil through those .lets to discover the law relating to juries, than wander through the winding mazes and wordy labyrinths of a modem Act of MOIL I NOTI/N; observed that the reasoning ef his Irtm. Friend was well calculated to justify any abuse. 11e was delirleed with the Statutes, !weansr they were old . , and he glcried in law be cause it was intricate, and he had great pleasure in uninteliigible Attsof Parliament , chiefly if they were dacult trout the titles to discover. Now. he on the contrary conteraletl, drat it was a great evil not to be acquainted with Ole law ; and yet ruth knowledge was scarcely attainable by the MOitstry of a lawyer, red altogether beyond the reach of a country genthitan. It was sable Meam one to say what the: raver Law was on any particular subject. lie would veature to assert that so lawyer in that !lover, nor even in the ahoy llowte, not tyre the Lord Chat.cellor himself could speak certainty as to the twice law on all' particular question. 11'in:111 not hi., Friend tomtit that ruck a stwe of things was a great grievance? Ilcsecated to think that the benefits of decisions would be lost, but 01 what Ism, lit were they ? A Outlawl argues on the one side. vi heittemly, earnestly, sec t with self-coelidence. that the law is with Lint: with equal coo. tidence, and not lint warmth. dos ['a.. opposing( ()tinsel insist that the law is wi'h hint: aZattatel , are ta breed to, stud eases are cited, and after the 'arm and Icarnirg :hr Atlvocat,s are exhausted, it falls upon the untlirtucate Judge to determine between them. Sow there was another, and a s ill greater grievaace, name:y—that the law being unknown to the community plurally, many a man was executesl in ignieraece of it. The view of the proposed mea. sure was, first to ascertain the law as it stood. and then to reduce it to a uniform system; instead of ionipelling couttery gentlemen to pun+ vie mew 011111 , 1iP of Mt/7/ . 1, ./.7tfj,r, and sup it!yieg auttr. e t:yrn with the Ste:lntl, at !weer, at Me moderate expense of sixty pounds, and then t h e Reports; a :au ytr's library costs 10001.; and this expel sr a country ventlentan must titrMsh, it' he wishes to he. tie a di.paiser of justice; it, iesteittl of this expense., the laww were simplaisil, they aeight ailli•inis!.r law ii,nerli;xtuaily to t he community, and, ',hick was l t less ...time:pie:ice, r.tote ecohout,- cally to tlitinsely,w, Sir E. KN.% ng-• d with the Honourable and I,ex-red Gentleman that it It::‘ impossible tin any gentleman to decide upon the Statute Law a , stood at present. u:l.wa he had received a b•gal education. sra e greater blessing that the country could rapw•ricnce tb.tn a gettetal emisoltaatitm statute. or the realm. It was his mist . ..it:ono. however. to differ in•m the Iliglit lloruttraltlelltstrlctuan as to Me neecastry cs.tenaing the qu.tlitication of iuriea. Leave wan then given to brim ir. a bill tc cons•dientc the laws re. Wive to jurit a. IRISH UNIONS. Sir AMIN NF:fit'i'llNT snot.ct the• ?meal of the nth sec. of .^.2 tiro. I 1.. which prolahised thc sa•vcrarry of litchends. Carlon ries, and whit Church di•a:idcr. except II IxaCtcr e a, added of ...twill value to that %cr.:red. ' Mr. f it .‘":"CA N scow del lii it•o! ion. Mr. I iol . l,ltUlt X was of that the remd of this Art would rot ram the Right Iloa, liatoret one jot matt to the object he had is char. 3lr. 1)4 %1 . :40N concurred in opinion with :he Secretary of Stahl for ;Matta. Ile would thervOreopixio; the mo.ma. Dr. LI 'SI! INt I TON approved et the :p, tian. lie thought it would he an improvement on the plan of him Right lion. Flicad, it living, were exchanged, with the commit of the Ilixhop of the di oce.c. the Lord I.!eutenaot. and the Primatc, tar others 0f a va lue sowething inkrior. This measure w✓ul.l, he thought, benefit the Irish Church. all Sir .11.)1I\ NEWPORT tlifremid open this. es as on many other matters. from the lionouraido Member . opposite ( Mr. Paws gm). His object was to maintain an immense church establish. ment. independent of any other eireimist inec. w hiht he oitir John Newport) meetly wished to give them the blessings anti advantages of a religious elluertion. He wa. satisfied for Men -pent to pose. pone his motion. under the espeetation that the Right Honour. aide Seeretsge of tease f.tr !Telma, at uld inirg it forward in a eat:, solitinted fenrt.