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•c irzie ever WWI Nand. icsent. H o c time was our future oleo us or and it was images of a attend to in was norm.- Ler to hear aides of her impressed to result, be •r alter the 11:11 tales? I noose ably 'Lie Friend, 'ned he was laboured by ruled in his le 3lcanbers uggeated by li r object of ctitiuu, npel r am it &heat le Home by ate, !hat the . re.,sure of TC pity; that if trreire an he .ilk trade trade, what tion. This tti.faction of the ProsPo r trim of the foie a duty The time s •rived to the uty upon the he system of 7 those who lettered, and :vial, and by of trade was is raised, the %p r, Or COMO )rooperity in a k would ad. might tri he might of looking for ' it woe a ga thers. 'rhea 'he'd to anode. rayed for the iatbibit, they 4141gic t h• could not say what the operation of the petition would be, ever in this ~,,y, as, notwithstanding the prohibitna, it was admitted upon all b a wds that French patterns were unported into this country at a premium of front 15 to 20 per cent., and these patterns were sold, :end would continue to be sold in the shops of hoodoo ; and if an ad valorem duty of 30 p.r cent. were laid on for the purpose of protecting the manufacturer, it would be unavailing. H ere t h en , when the real state of the trade was considered as compared with the protection adirded by the laying on a duty, he would refer to the minutes of evidence read befiare the House. Ile would chew from the petition the feelings of the parties themselves, as to the manner in which the alteration of the laws would affect them ; and he would chew how inconsistent these individuals, honest and in telligent no doubt, were, he would read the evidence of Mr. Hale, an individual not less remarkable for his benevolence and anxiety to relieve the working classes of the trade, than for his knowledge in and acquaintance with every thing contacted with it. This re spected individual being asked in general terms what would protect the market fur the nianufacturers, said not less than a duty of 30 per cent. There was also the evidence of two American merchants, who came to Europe for the purpose of buying silks; they being asked what their idea of the die ereuce was between the light goods of France and England, in reference to the subject of a fair com petition between the tradesmen of both countries, answered, that in some there was a difference of 25 per cent.; in black silk there was adifference of 20 per cent., and in ribbons (and to this branch the petitioners principally referred) there was a difference of 25 per cent. litre, therefore, was the testimony of two merchants, who came from America to purchase silks; they came to England— they went thence to France—and the only difference they could paMve, or be conscious of, was less than the protection intended to be given. Ile would return ti the evidence of 31r. Hale: this indi vidual said he went trice to Paris, and to Lyons, for the purpose of inspecting the manufactures. 'Fbepersons there had no idea, he was a manufacturer, and they ()Bard to send hint to London, for an in surance of 20 per cent. any quantity of silk he might require ; and he admitted that the vast quantities of the article were thus improperly introduced into the country ; it did not injure the silk trade, tin no sooner was a single French pattern found in the country than it was inimedietely copied, and perhaps a thousand copics wen taken off the single French pattern. (Hear, hear.) They were not only copied but sold; they were generally sent to Brighton (hear, hear), and by means of fishwonien and smug glen they were old as French patterns, at a higher price than could be otherwise procured fur French. (Laughter.) Such were' the effects of the prohibition. The foreign articles were sent into the country by an insurance of so much pet cent., and yet it did not injure the trade, fiat a thousand copies were taken here and sold, of course, at a profit. This was, in his opinion, a plain proof that when we were so near competing with the foreigner as to make and sell these copies as French, it would not be &Math, by giving the 30 per cent. ; and when time was given, and the arrangements were properly ma de to enable the Eng lish artisan, not only to meet the foreigner in fair competition, but to beat him out of the market in this as in every other manufac ture : this would be rendered more easy, when it was no longer, from niece perversion of taste, or unaccountable feeling of fashion, the prevailing made to think nothing good could be worn, except it was procured by a violation of the law of the land. He thought the answer of Mr. Hale could not be gotten over. Ile was happy to state, that he had seen some of the silk-weavers of Manchester on that day : in that town the silk trade was free front the severe shackles of the Spitaltields laws ; and these gentlemen assured him they had no fear of a competition--and the day was not far distant when they would excel theforeigners in this as in all other manu factures. Ile would assure the lion. Member that he and the Chancellor of the Exchequer had spared neither pains nor labour in learning the details of the trade ; they did not come forward with any proposition on the subject until they acquired information ; in consequence they were accused of precipitation on one hand, and of tardiness on the other. These accusations they could not help; they would not conic forward at once with any plan ; they should wait for results, and by waiting patiently for the completion of all arrangements, he was sanguine enough to expect the country could enter into a successful rivalry with foreign nations, and beat them out of the market. (Hear.) There was another argument who he heard abroad, namely, that individuals themselves were, aft. * all, the best judges of their own interests. With all the deference which he felt for the opinions of those who held communications with him, and it was a part of his duty to attend to them— with all the respect which he felt for the opinions of those persons on the practical matters connected with their trade, he could not agree to the proposition that they were the best judges of their own interest ad connected with the public lie admitted that impositions of restrictions and drawbacks was favourable to heavy capital, but they cramped - Mole and eheeked general industry. There was also a numenta class of persons who looked upon the taking the duties off the raw material as injurious to their own interests. He meant broken and persons who bought on commission. They bought large quantities of the raw material and received payment in the gross, snd consequently a reduction in the price would be detrimental to their interests. In the course of all great changes some interest must be injured, and it was the business ot Parliament to touch them tenderly, and to guanl them as much as possible. There was also another class of peons out of the House, who were not remise ear inactive in ex. citing those feelings which they had received abroad. He meant these pennon who were afraid they would be deprived of the benefits of the smuggling trade. These persons were in immi nent danger • they feared, if the duties were taken off; it would become fas hionable to wear silks not smuggled, and the servant-maids were also apprehensive of losing the importance arising from the confederacies entered into with their mis tresses. (Laughter.) From the consideration which he gave the case, he felt justified in standing up and calling upon Parlia ment to support the important measures which he had to propose. Incur, heat.) He lamented he had to perform this duty in the absence of the Chancellor of the Exchequer ; but he was aware of the inedovenience which would follow it delay took place; the buyer would hold back, and expect to get the article even cheaper than the reduction would authorise him to expect, and by his remissness a stagnation of the manufacture would, to a certain extent, takeplace. As to the mode of proceeding in the remission of the several duties by . which the silk trade was restricted, some variety of opinion might perh aps prevail. It might perhaps by many be thought bet ter to apce by gradual reduction , first to take off a quarter, then kW, t the effect would ultimately be the same, and he therefore limbed the manure should be lather speedy and decisive than di latory. It was therefore, that instead of postponing this measure to the Bth of July, 1825, He would prefer that it should have Mune- Mate operation. There was an objection to the sudden remission of defies, from the apprehension that by it a great many who de pended for their daily subsistence on their earnings in this branch of trade might be thrown out of employment by the sudden effect of this speedy arrangement of the duties. But he would propose to etwompaoy the alteration with what he hoped would meet this objection satisfactorily, and rather tend to increase employment than to diminish it. The arrangement, therefore, which he would propose to the Committee for the relief of those who might at pre sent hare stocks of silks not numufactured, on hand, was that they might be pemiittcd from the 25th of March to return that stock to the respective warehouses from which they had taken it—that the duty which they had originally paid upon it should be returned to them—and that they should be at liberty to take it out again, SAE . g the reduced duty, which he now pro , m o ot f : i kl ng . s t lLt p a our.d. 'll4 he trusted, would have the effect of betided non-employineot of the working manufactures, or at la r s e t, If such non-employment ensued, it would . not continue beyond the 26..11 of March. That there should be a limit to the applica tion of this regulation, was manifest ; but it would be fairly acted en towards those engaged in this trade : it would serve as a fresh 'Stimulus for them to enter into the competition which he (Mr. H) was sanguine enough they would successfully enter upon with I. rench ilk. The shop of every haberdashercould not be entered on, and so 1 inventory had of the several species and quantities of silk in their possession ; that would be an endless task. He would proceed to , the next point, namely, the prohibitory duty ; and in order that the trade of this country might have time and opportunity to thrive, it had been determined as moat advisable that the reduction of this duty, as proposed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, should not take place until July 5, 111211. It might be perhaps better po licy that this duty should terminate now, but as in all legislative messans something should be esmeeded to the feelings of those who were to he affected by a particular enactment, lie would not regret (whatever tatty be his own opinion) the extension of time, Banished if the measure be attended with ultimate suc cess. It would, therefore, :from the period he had assigned, be admissible for those who had stocks of this commodity on hand, to receive the duties and drawbacks which they previously paid, and this reduction, together with the prospect of the continuance of the prohibitory duty at present In force, for two years longer would, he hoped, enable this branch of our manufac ture to encounter the competition to which it would he then exposed by the proposed reduction on the importation of the foreign artide. Me had thus stated fully the purport of the resolutions . which he intended to move in the Committee. They might not be conformable to the views of some Gentlemen, whose opinions, formed no the subject of political economy, though honest, he be lieved, were sometimes erroneous. He ( Slr. Huskisson) had too long-been conversant in the intricate and complicated consequences connected with changes in various branches of our manufactures, lobe so much of an enthusiast as to propose any alteration, merely from the view that it presented in theory. He had always pre ferred a practical system fo ed und on liberal principles, as, as wet consistent with that due regard to our foreign relations and domestic interests. If the present branch of our manufactures, or any ether department of the commerce of this country, suffered a comparative depression with similar branches in others, it was at trlbutable to the adoption of a restrictive policy. That depression changed when the principles of that liberal and comprehensive policy were acted upon which commenicated reciprocal services to nations, which encouraged a friendly intercourse between them, and which was invariably attended with increased enjoyments and advantages to such countries as adopted and acted upon them. In this, as in every other question, the separate interests of those whom the measure most concerned should be regarded, but they should be regarded only as consistent and connected with the general interests of the empire, the superintendcoceof which was the int and most important rule of legislation. (Hear, hear.) The Right lion. Gentleman concluded by moving the following resolutions : " That it is the opinion of this Committee, that from and after the 24th of 3larch MG, the several duties end drawbacks on the several sorts of silk, hereinafter mentioned, shall cease and deter- mine.; and also, that on the sth of July, Illthi, the prohibition of manufactured silk shall cease and determine, and that the following duties shall be paid in lieu thereof. " Os silk, from and after the 11th of April, 1824. on raw silk, or noise, or husks, or waste, or floss silk, per pound 3d.; on thrown, not dyed, 7s. Rd. " On manufactured silk, from and after the sth of July, 182 bi, for every cwt. imported, 301. 1 Mr.lllA RING had listened with great attention to the statement; of the Right Hon. Gentleman on a subject as important certainly i " Maki well eagagethe attention of the Howse. Although he had aged limn hint a great deal of the encouragement which the pro. posed Alteration In the duties upon silk wat calculated to give to these who were engaged in this ; branch of our manufactures; al though he had beard plans of liberal policy recommended ; yet he in vain listened for as arg ument . Nor had be heard any dung to alter the opinions he had previously expressed. Ile gave his Ma jesty's Ministers great credit for the objects which they shoed to attain : it was not through hostility to them that he cliif'erel from the present measure; nothing could be more disinterested than the conduct of Governmen—they assumed • very heavy responsi bility. He had himself always advocated principles of liberal policy, but he was not prepared to coincide in the present. exercise of policy, as applicable to the subject on which the Maier were now called upon to legislate. The Right Honourabe Gent had spoken largely in praise of free principles of trade, and against monopoly, but the Right Hon. Gentleman could rot surely forget or overlook the monopoly which we encouraged. Was nut the footing on which the sugar tr a d e o f the West Indies stood a , ' monopoly ? Or what greater monopoly could there be than that' which the landed interest of this country possessed in the corn laws? (Hear.) These great monopolies the Rt. Hon. Gent. did not touch or cope with, but confined himself to points of minor consi.; deration. tor the application of principles of liberal policy. Nl'hat ' he (Mr. Baring) feared from this competition, about to be intro duced, was that the great superiority of French silk in every de pertinent and progress of its manufacture, would create a demand to the prejudice and injury of those engaged in that manufacture at home. Did our cotton and woollen manufactures, he would ask, thrive under regulations similar to those now proposed to be applied to the silk trade? Or was it not to the proteoton which the legisla. ture afforded to them, that their success was attributable. 'Why then abandon a system in one instance, which had been found successful in other branches of our manufactures ? Instead of declamation on liberal policy, it would be better to inquire into the causes which made • particular branch of manufacture thrive in one place better than in another. There was something in the nature of the article itself, which accounted for such a superiority, and in local CiTCUM. stances which were more suited often to one branch of in dustry than another; for instance, in Manchester a woollen manufacture was carried on with unrivalled successes, and Sheffield enjoyed a high reputation for cutlery ; again, the watches and trinkets of Geneva were highly prized, and thus, in various places some separate distinct article of' trade or manufacture was cultivated with peculiar success. In inquiring into the causes which gave France a pre-eminence in silk, he would mention the ' anecdote of a person of his acquaintance, who had resolved upon attaining a knowledge of the French mode of dying silk, he had offered to a person engaged in that department o f manufacture in France, a large sum of money to make him acquainted with the manner in which lie dyed his silks. The individual to whom ha applied. deelined taking his money, and told him that the whole secret of his method consisted in this, that he never dyed silk except in a bright sun. Now in woollens and cottons the precise colour was not so important as in silk, where the fashion of the article and its value depended on the precision and clearness of its hue. Thus it would appear there wens as he said, something in nature which often conferred a superiority in • particular article, and which gave to it, as it were, " a local habitation." It would, he apprehended, be impossible to transfer the manufacture of Lyons to Exeter. The great consideration for the House to look to was, that there was which it could be made saleable abroad was (with the exception of the article of silk stockings), by mixing it with worsted and cotton, no market for silk manufactured in this country. The only manner in so that he may say, that the home consumpti o n o f thi s manu facture was the only consumption of it. If the prohibitor duties were taken off ; he feared that the superiority o f the F re n c h silk, would give it a preference to the utter ruin of the manufacturers of England. If a treaty were on font, or if any advantage were to be gained by the sacrifice of this thriving branch of our industry, why then let it go ; but do not give it up without some reciprocal service or adequate compensation. Freedom of trade was a good thing when it was introduced and adopted on equitable terms. But here the liberality was all one side. We were called upon to give up a rapidly increasing part of our manufactures, but were to receive nothing in return. (Cries of " )dear, hear.") After remarking on the inconsistency of the plan of the flight Honourable Gentleman, in reference to tho duties he intended to impose on the admission of orgazine silk and thmwsted silk, and the departure from free principles in the imposition of a duty of 7s. lid. on the importation of the latter, the Honourable Member proceeded to remind the Hoose of the reproof which they received from the horde last Session, for legislating on the Spitalfields Acts without ample information. Ile recommended the propriety of deferring any decision upon the present measure without inquiry, lest a:similar reproof might be sent down to them. It had been said that our superiority in machinery would enable us to counterbalance the superiority of the raw material which France produced, but he believed, that in looms and every other machine for the manufac ture of silk to perfection, France was in no degree inferior to this country. As to the distant period of time (1826) at which the Right Hon. Gent. proposed that the prohibitory duty should cease, he (Mr. Baring) apprehended that the anxiety and dread of compe tition which would prevail, in the interval, would have the effect of throwing a damp over that branch of manufacturre. It would para lyze it and be destructive of all industry, and every active enter prise in that branch of our national industry which is DOW io a daily improving state. A respectable person engaged in the trade said, on hearing that the prohibitory duty would not cease until 1826, " I sin glad of it, for I shall have time to get out of it." This delay was, in his opinion, more injurious even thatm the mediate adoption of the measure. If it be good for anything which he (Mr. B.) believed it not to be, boldly try it, but let it not con tinue in a state of suspense for so long a period, without the state ment of any good or sufficient ground for doing so. He believed that France was not the only place which produced silk that might find a market in this country. From the specimens of silk imported from India, there was reason to believe that if encouraged thetas iit would reach a very high degree of perfection. lie understood, however, it was the policy of the Court of Directors not to allow it • fair competition, which, if true, was to be regretted, ira it cut of a source of wealth which, if cultivated and promoted, might arrive at a successful rivalry with the silk of France or of any other nation. Haying passed the law, they would then throw the manufacturer Into confusion, and would have to look about for a raw mate. rial to establish a manufacture, in which, according to thy Right Honourable Gentleman's own assertion, this country was In every point inferior. Ile could assure the House that nothing but n strong Renee of duty urged him to oppose the Right Honourable Gentleman's measure, which he considered would be attended with the most mischievous consequences. He hoped the House would look more carefully into the subject than they at present seemed inclined to do, and have something more to guide them in their deliberations than a Committee of the Lords. If they ruined these individuals, he trusted they would have at least the satisfaction of reflecting, that they had not done so rashly ; and should they after. wards find that they had eked, they would then be consoled that they erred after taking every precaution. Ile was aware that the feeling of the Committee was against hi.n, and therefore he would not tres pa ss longer on their patience. 31r.WALLACE observed, that no person called in question the principles upon which the measure of his Right lion. Friend was founded. He was satisfied that the opposition came chiefly from those Gentlemen who were Members for places the inhabitants of which thought themselves interested in keeping up the monopoly. They took the alarm that had spread itself, through their eonstitu. ens, that some danger would accrue to the manufacture with which they were connected. He did not blame those Hon. Members kg the course they were pursuing: be only wished to caution the House not too readily to concede to their alarms, but give the country the bene fi ts of free trade wherever th e y could be extended, which would be equally a benefit to the trade the constituents of these gentlemen were engaged in. But the opposers of the dimi. notion of duty seemed inclined to make this trade an exception to all others, and to maintain the monopoly in contradiction to every wound principle applicable to other tr a d es and manufactures. If recognised principles and tried theories were applied to this trade, it would be found to be now only flourishing under the strictest and heaviest prohibitions, which had all the character of a dose monopoly about it, operating as s heavy tax on the country itself. He was as anxious as Honourable Gentlemen opposite, that the silk manufacture should flourish; but he wished it to do so on prin ciples beneficial to the country, and he had no doubt it was capa ble of flourishing in conformity with those principles. The stimu lus it would receive front the proposed alteration would, he was con fident, double the trade ; and great as were the numbers at present employed in it, they might still be doubled, and that this country would be enabled to compete with France in a very short time in the silk manufacture, when liberal principles of trade were adopted. Ile did not think that he could be accused of being visionary m arguing in this manner, when gentlemen looked at the effect that the tax had on the raw material. In Mr. Wilson's evidence before the Committee, he was asked what was time effect of raising the price of the manufacture? His answer was, that in one instance tt was 84 per cent., and in another 48 per cent. Why was it that this country could not compete with the French silk? It was by reason of the duty ; and that was proved by a reference to the kale 1 of the manufacture before the war, for then the English had an excellent foreign trade. Haring silk from India, he had no doubt, after his Right Honourable Friend's measure had been some time in operation. that this country would be enabled to serve the' French market, because the raw material could be raised cheaper in India than in France. If a moderate duty would not prevent this country from meeting France, how well could she compete with her Continental neighbour if it were taken off altogether. An Honourable Gentleman had spoken of the labour of France being infinitely cheaper than that of this country; and another Honourable Gentleman had said, that he should be ready to admit that the proposed measure would be a salutary one, if the Corn Laws were repealed. But he was prepared to chew that there was a great fallacy about the price of foreign labour. The wages in the silk and mien manufactures were higher in this country than in France; but from a conversation that he had had with a large cotton manufacturer of France, now in this country, he learnt that although wave were lower in France, tem labour was performed for them. The effect of this wm, that notwithstanding the price of labour was cheaper in France, a manufacture of cotton could be carried on at a lower rate of expense in this country than there. This comparison, he would admit, applied to the cotton manufac ture; but he could not see why it might not be applied to the silk: for it might be connected generally with the manufacturing labour in France, and therefore might bear upon the silk as well as cotton. Every one knew, in a manufacture where there was no competition, exertion to reduce the expenditure was not called into action, or many operations in the eat manufacture might be done cheaper; but the state of monopoly had prevented the reductions, because the manufacturers did not consider it worth their while to attend to them. The Ferric!' machinery in the finer broches of the silk trade was superior to that produced in this country ; and a time, which he thought rather long, had been proposed, to give the ma nufacturers of this country an opportunity to make the change with edict; but still, although he might consider the time lops, it &hewed that every facility would be given to those interested in the ,change, to prepare hr it. If this measure were not passed, it would not only bring dishonour on our sincerity, but upon those that would ensure the future prosperity of this country . Ile recollected a petition presented not many mars since by the Honourable Glens. "page (Bar. Bating) :rem the imeroimato of the city of LOW" in which the principles he row opposed were strenuously advocated; fox the prominent feature of it WAS against prohibitions of every kind, lie was certain that if the prohibitions were taken away, the public would get a cheaper and a batter commodity; and the great object of t h e present tuensure was, on the one side, to found principles in confOrmity witii those that had been more or less re cognised ; and on the other, to enable this country to compete with France, and to carry our silk trade to other parts of the world. If • the doctrine of the opposers of thin proposal were sound, the cotton trade, which was peculiar to India, ought never to have been re-1 moved from that (Ilener of the globe. And he could seemly Shen in a stronger point a xi: w the advantages of the measure, than by an analogy to that extensive and important branch of our wealth, both as it regarded the employment of industry, the use of capital, and the exercise of ingenuity; all these advantage■ would have been lost, if the principles he was advocating had not been in ' active operation with regard to the. cotton trade; and why should they not apply equally to the silk manufacture, and enable this country, in that branchislso, to compete with foreigners ? The exertions that were made is the cotton trade were dependent on principles that his Right Ifonourahle Friend wished to apply to the silk, and which he was confident must always prove successful, where they do not prematurely destroy restrictions that must, after they had been once Mimed, be carefully got rid of however impo litic their first introduction might have been. His Honourable Friend's measure did not hastily destroy these restrictions ; it was founded on the soundest principles of trade ; and for those reasons it should have his support. Mr. fIUTTERIVORTII hoped time would be allowed for the due consideration of thisquestion. One point that he particularly wished to impress on the minds of the Committee was, as to the drawbacks. Ile thought that there ought to he no difference be tween the drawback allowed to the merchant and that allowed to the manufacturer, ash would be a very hard case on a merchant with 30 or 40,0001. worth of silk on his hands not to be allowed the full drawback given to the manufacturer. Mr. W. PEEL was not going to enter into the question before the House, but he was certain if Oovernment would pursue the principle they were acting upon with regard to silk, toward s printed calicoes, and repeal the duties on them, as he proposed to the !louse in 1819, he was satisfied the yeatest advantage would be derived from the measure, for the manufacture would be greatly benefited, and the revenue would not suffer. Mr. DAI'ENPORT wished to know if the French would take any article of the manufacture of this country in exchange for their silks ? Ile thought a little more time ought to be given be fore the measure was decided upon, to enable the weavers (to use a manufacturer's phrase)" to wind up their bottoms." (Much laughter.) 3lr. ELLICE opposed the 'lotion, and thought, before this country thought of competing with foreigners, the Right Honour abe Gentleman and his colleagues ought to begin at the foun dation, and put the price of labour in England on a footing with its price in other countries, by repealiud the Icom- laws. If competition was the object, he thought for some time it was idle to expect it, but he hoped that it was not quite without expectation. The Reciprocity Duties Bill had been rejected, both by France and America; he hoped that hereafter some better policy would pre. veil with those countries. Mr. LI ' TTLETI IN said that the arguments by which the course Government meant to pursue was defended on that Light hid made such an impression upun Mr. ELLIS wished the Right lion. Gentleman to state whether there would not be some allowance to the manufacturer for the stock in hand. Mr. WHITMORE said, notwithstanding the respect he felt for the arguments he had heard from the Hon. Mianbers for Taunton and Coventry, they went but a very short way in convincing him that the measure originally proposed by his Majesty's Government was imperfect. Still, however, he felt very grateful to the Govern ment for the considerate course they had adopted on this occasion. Mr. BARING and Mr. HUME trusted that some allowance would be made to the manufacturer oq the stock in hand. Col. DAVIES said, as the drawl's& was allowed on exported silk, why not on that forborne consumption ? Mr. BUTTERWORTH and Mr. HALGIMAND jointly ex pressed their hope that some relief would be administered to these who held manufactured goods. Mr. WILSON thought it not quite fair to press Government further upon the question of allowance to the manufacturer on stock in hand. Mr. PHILIPPS suggested the expediency of taking off the duty on the dying materials. Mr. Ald. HEYGATE slid that the danger was only put off for two years, and therefore it was the duty of the silk manufacturers to look to the danger. Mr. HUSK ISSON stated, that ha did not see his way clearly through the difficulty suggested, of allowance to the manufacturer on the stock in hand. If it could be suggested, he would willingly, as in equity he was bound to adopt such a suggestion. Mr. ELLIS suggested the House should not divide. The question was then put, and the original motion carried with. out a division. 31r.liffikiSSON said, that ha proposed to take the resolution upon wool without discussion at present. Mr. WORTLEY acceded to this preposition. Mr. BIJSKIBBON, in reply to a question from Mr. Bright, said, it was intended the duty should its taken off on the sth July. The resolutions were then proposed and agreed to. The proposition for repealing the duty on coals was thee put. The repeal of the bounties on linen wu then proposed and Colonel DAVIES asked if it was intended to place a duty on the importation of French gloves. Ills constituents were much inter ested in this qtowtion. Mr. H USK ISSON thought his eematiguents would he quite Wis. fled with the duty intended to be placadbn gloves, vs per cent. Mr. HUME Inquired when the bountie s we r e to expire on whale fishery Mr. HUSKISSON said they would all expire next year. Mr. BROODEN, on the Howse having resumed, brought up the report. The other Orders of the Day were then read. GAME BILL (bECOND READINO). Mr. S. WORTLEY postponed theiecond reading of this Bill till Thursday next. QUALIFICATION OF JURORS. The second readiniof this Bill Was postponed till to-morrow. GA( REGULATION BILL. On the motion of Mr. Secretary PEEL, the House went into a Committee on the Gaol Regulation &IL The report was brought up, and ordered to be taken into further consideration on Friday next. WEIGHTS AND MEASURES. The House went intoa Committee on the Weights and Measures Bill. report ordered to be received to-morrow (this day.) the Soutl) American Postage Bill was read a third time and passed. CATHOLIC BURIALS IN IRELAND. Mr. OOULBURN gave notice fur his Hight Hoe. and Learned Friend, the Attorney-General for Deland that he should postpone his notice of motion for the introduction of a Bill respecting burials in Ireland, from this day until this da se'nnight. NATIONAL DEBT. Mr. HUME moved for a return of the average price of the pub. lie funds since the year 17tH, as far u the ptncliases of the (,am. miosioners for the reduction of the National Debt would 'hew,— Ordered. Mr. HUME also moved for the amount of the dividends of saved by the reduction of the S per cents. to 4 per cent., and the amount of the capital given by way of bonus on that retbaction, and the permanent dividend thereon.--Ordered. The other orders of the day were the di posed of, and the Howse adjourned at Otie o'Clock. MYFICES OF MOTIONS THIS DAY. 1. Mr. Goulbura r —lfill to amend Tithe Composition Act of last Session. 2. Mr. Maherly,—Motion on the Laws relating to Beer and ]halt. ORDERS OF THE DAY. 1. Recovery of Penalties Bill ;—Committee. 2, Cattle 111-treatinton Bill ;--Catandetee. A LIST OF THE MINORITY Of 24 who noted for the (:lose proposed by Mr. thane to prevent Flogging of Soldiers. Allen, J. ill. Moberly, J. Ridley, Sir M.W. Bennet, ILO. Mabcrly, W. L. Smith, J. Brougham, H. Martin, ,T. Smith, W. Brown, D. lioncka. ill• Sykes, D. Buxton, T. F. P a l mer , C. Welk", J. Evans, W. l'owlet, 1100. J. F. Wilson, Sir R. Gordon, R. Itamiden, J. C. Orattao, J. Rice, T. S. TELLES. Ilutchinson,lln.C.ll. Itamsbottom, J. J. llume. MAJORITY Of 50 who voted on the sticiVirtant against the Clause proposed by Mr. Hume to prevent Flogging of Soldseas. Arbuthnot. Rt. II n.C. Goulburn, Rt. /In. H. Philliroore, J. Bathurst, lion. S. T. Hardinge, Sir H. Powell, W. E. Binning, Lord ilirries, J. C. Raise, J. Broaden, J. Hill, lit.lin.Sir C.F. Ross, C. Burgh, Sir U. I I olmes, W. Stuart, (Armagh) Brown, J. II ope, Lt..Gen.SirA. Strum J. H. Wren, J. Nudism, Lord Sumner, G. H. Chun, E. 114, Hort/144-W' Townshend, Hn.0.11. Clerk, Sir G. Hulse, Sir C. Wetherell, C. Clive, Hon. R. Iluskislidli,Rt.lin.W.Wilson, T. Cockburn, Sir G. Jones, J. Wood, Cel. T. Cooper, R. B. 1,011111, Lord J. H. Wortley, T. A. S. Copley, Sir J. P. Long, Rt. Din. Sir C. Wortley, T. A. nen. Courtenay, T. P. Loather, Viscount Wynn, Rt. lin. W. Dawson, 0. IL Martin, R. Fremantle, W. 11. Martin, Sir T. B. TELLER. Fynes, C. Pearse, J. Lord Palmerston. Gooch, T. Peel, Rt. Hn. R. UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE. Oxrono, MARCH 1. On Tuesday last, the Rev. Dr. Smith, Canon of Christ Church, was installed to the Deanery of that Cathedral. The Rev. Christopher lopscarnbe, M.A. Fellow of New College, has been appointed Bishop of Jamatca, in the West Indies. Rev. Francis Lear, R. of Magdalen College, has been insti. tuted to the Rectory of Chihnark, vacant by the death of the Hon. and Rev. Alfred Harris, on the presentation of the Ewa of Pembroke. - --- On Saturday the 28th ult. Mr. Edmund Hammond, B.A. o f University College, Mr. Algernon Oradell, Exhibitioner of Corpus Christi College, and Mr. Peter Hansa, Commoner of M'odham College, were elected Scholars of UnivorSity Coaese , on the nun. dipaoo of Sir Skop &wet, Bart, PRICES OF BRITISH Rank Stock Is per Cent Reduced, '3 per Cent. Con*. 94 93l 3/ per Cent. epet Cent. New 4 per Cent. 107' 4 ' J • Long Annuitieh, Imperial 3 per Cents.. Rank ter Account 244 2 Cana. for Act. 9.111 2/ 4 3j 4j India Stock PRICES OF FOREIGN Austrian Scrip, 134 2;; 32 4 pr. Ditto for Ac. 134 24 3 pr. Ditto paid in full Chilian Bonds, 82 14 794 804 Ditto far Ace. 81 791 YI t 804 Columbian Bonds, 69 114 fl Do. for Acct. MA 74 Danish Bonds, lou Ditto Diaries Banco, 964 Greek Scrip. 24 4 4 3 2i pm. Mexican Scrip, 7 64 44144 Do. fur Ac. 7 61 Neapolitan Bonds, 894 Ditto for Account Portuguese Bonds 92„ Ditto Scrip, Prussian Bonds, 994 t, 99 Ditto for Account Ditto Bonds (11122) 973 A ant TED-1 Lisbon, I Hull DUE-1 Brazil, 1 Lisbon, I I lit Nrittolt Vretso. KING".I THEATRE. This Evening. TUESDAY, March H. will be performed IL, BARBIERE DI SR IGLIA. Between the Acta, the new Divertimement of IiONNEIIt AUX DAMES. End of the Open., un entirely new Ballet, entitled LE SOMA: The Free Vat l a puelt I vely helot...ended on allots:salon:int Madame Perri, Catalanre tee., and no order. admitted, Application. for Bolas. and Single Stawriptiona for the Selaup to be made to Mr. Seguin, 10.5, Quadrant, Itegent-street. tie* The Opera will teHin tot Tueedine at Half-past Seven, and on Saturdays at Seven 'Moak NEW THEATRE ROYAL, DRURY-LANE. Thia Evening, TUESDAY. March 9, will he performed THE MERRY NIVEA OF INDstill. Fenton, Mr. Brahani; sir J 4.1111 Eal,Wati. Mr. Wit t 11. Mra, Ford, Wad Mr,. Mite. Madame Vestris. After which, the MehsDraitus of TEKELL 4 under the amnion of STOCKS I'ESTERDA Y. India Bonds, 52 51 34 53 India for Account, 20 South Sea Stock. South Sea Old Annuities Soutii Sea New .►nnuities Ex. Dills, 1,0001. 52 51 54 53 Ditto, 5001. 52 51 :4 53 sir. Ditto, Small, 52 51 54 ~rim , Indorsed ditto Lottery Tickets, 211. Ils. STOCKS YESTERDAY. Russian Bets. 931 bi Russian for Acct. 95i libf Russian Inscription Exchange per ruble Ditto Metallic Stock (Baring) Ditto (Sillitu'al Spanish Cons. 23 2 1 I *1 11 201 1 Ditto for Account 22j 1 11 1 Ditto 170 & 253 Wis. 2# Do. 5 per (ha. (182;;1 18 74 74 7 Ditto for Acct. 172 17 . Anglo Alex. Alines 6 pm. • United Ditto French Homes, 10Trf. 1041. 261. Do. Scrip, 161#} pm. Ditto theAect. 11.9 1 Do. Ex. 25r. 56c. I L.S. and, 2 Flanders, and 2 French. (iottenburgh, 3 Illamburgh, and "—' Tomorrow, A Grand IlualeiS Mr. sneer. THEATRE ROiAE,CdVEIVT-GARDE.V. Thbi Evening. TUESDAY. March 9. will be performed NATIVE LAND. Principal characters by 'Alessnt. Sinclair, W. Farren. Cooper. arA Few. Lett r Mimes Paton. L.•re. and M. Tree. After which. THE MILLER .IND Ills MEN. Tomurrow, there wtll be nu Performance. THEATRE ROYAL, ENGLISH OPERA HOUSE. On Wednesdays and Fridays in Lent. LECTOR! on A4THONOMY and b e MIRNuMENA of the A HEVENS and o the EARTH. The Second Lecture to he delivered f by Mr. Rattler, TO-MORROW. To tatiOn at Heron' and conclude at I`..m. Tickets of Atintoti fur Families to be had on moderate terms at the Box-olllce. The Therrien Passe commenced publishing yesterday morning at Five o'clock. LONDON, TUESDAY, MARCH 9, INC The Paris Journals of Saturday, and the Etoile dated Sunday, reached our office last night. They contain very little of general interest. It appears that the King of the Netherlands has sent a squadron to cruise against the Algerines, who before the 12th of last month had carried four Spanish vessels into the port of Algiers. [Fillip the tfonitrur, Mardi 64 (Official Part.) PARIS, MARCH 5. To-day. before mass, His Excellency the Prince of Castel-, cicala, Ambassador from his Sicilian Majesty, presented to the King, is well as to. their Royal Highnesses Monsieur and the Duke of Angouleme, in a private audience, the letters which his Sove reign has written to them on sending to the King and each of those Ptinces the insignia of the Orders of St. Jannarius and . St. redhaod. (tion.official Part.) ROME, FES. iik As the Roman Seminary is to occupy tho bwikling belonging to the Academy of St. Luke, his Highness has ordered that the Academy shall be transferred to a building neat to the Vatican. This will ►e highly agreed* to the students, who will have before their eyes the masterpieces of art praierved in the museums of the Vatican. It is aKrmed that his Holiness has ordered that Cones, Portig. liana, Campeatorto, and Ostia, shall be declared places of asylum for malefactors, ai in ancient times. The object of this measure , appears to be to prevent the inhabitants of the Campagna Romagna, from joining the banditti in the mountains when they have rendered, themselves amenable to justice for ordinasy transgressions. The Englishman who was lately wounded by the man to wham he had given his fowling-piece to repair, is in peat danger : he is sn officer, the last descendant of the celebrated Lost Bacon of Verulam: On Ascension-day the Sovereign Pontiff' will proclaim the Holy Year, and . on Christmas-eve he will open the sacred gate of the Basilica of the Vatican. At the same time several Cardinals will open the sacred gates of the other churches. During the whole of the year 11123 there will be no public spectacles in the Roman States. The last Holy Year was proclaimed in 1776, under the Pontificate of Pius VI. __ MADRID, Fri. 25. Several Members of the Council of Coatille have bees allowed to retire. The King has nominated in their room Memo. Limon Garrido, Camara, Cano, Olal, Winless, Almazan, Luis de Leon, Sharrz Valdes, Til. Perez, Simla, and Soler. Meson. Argentina and Castiela, the two Ant deem ht the De partment of the Minister of State, have also bees allowed to retire. IFrom the EN!le, dated Sunday, March 7.1 PARIS, MARCH 6. The squadron of his Majesty, the King of the Netherlands, which was in t h e Nu n of she Balearic lolanda, under the command of Ad miral Ruyach, has sailed to make war on theAlgerines, in conformity with the treaty of Alcala, because that Regency has sent ships of war and a great number of corsairs to the coast of Spain, for the purpose of capturing all Spanish vessels that they may meet with. It is known, Mat before the 12th of last month, knit Spanish ves sels had bees amid into the port of Algiers. FRENCH FUNDS.—PARIS, 6.—Five per Cent.Jouisa du isa Sept. 1823, closed sth March, at 104 f. Ihfe. ; Joules du 22d March, 1824, opened at 102 f. 80c., closed at 102 f. 50c. • Neapolitan Five per Cents . 16f. ; Rents* d'Espag. 24; R oyal Spanish Loan, 1823, 614. Exchange on lionsiqs—ons Month, 2.5 f. 41ir• I three months, 24f. 30c. Jamaica Papers t 3 the 14th of January, and Demerara to the 22d, reached us yesterday. In the former island no symptoms of insubordination had shown themselves, nor were any apprehensions manifested for the continuance of tranquillity. His Grace the Governor, we learn, has par-1 doned Elea de Sotto, Joakim Hernandez, Pablo Biller, and Juan Olivier, who were found guilty of piracy at the late Admiralty Sessions, and sentenced to be hanged. From Demerara the advices as to the state of the colony arc equally satisfactory. Martial law ceased there on the 19th of January, after an existence of exactly five month@ : on that day the troops of the garrison, with the George Town militia, under their commanding officers, ree..)ived his Exeellency the Commander in -Chid, whose arrival was hailed by a general salute of artillery and musketry. Ills Xxcellrney then expressed to the Commandants his high sense of their services, and of the arduous exertions of the soldiers under their orders. The expiration of martial law was celebrated with deep and enthusiastic feelings by the inhabitants, whose peace, if we may judge from the tone of private letters, is not likely soon to be disturbed. Despatches from Ilaibadoes to the 10th ult. state, the general tranquillity prevailed also in these islands. The! 27th regiment from Ireland, and the 93d from Gibraltar, I had arrived there in safety. Yesterday we received Lisbon Gazettes to the 2211 ult. The owl/ article worth ooOce in them it an account gl the ceremony of investing the King of Portugal and Don Afigr with the Russian Order of St. Andrew. Baron SjingpqM.,,, t * on presenting the insignia of the Order to his ; lltalent:, . made a very complimentary speech, to which the King re plied—" I highly value those . testimonies of esteem from a Sovereign Who, by so many exalted qualities, has gaidell the admiration of the whole universe." The proposed alterations in the duties on silk underwent a long and very interesting discussion in the Monroe of Commons yesterday. Mr. Huskisson, in the *bane: of the Chancellor of the Exchequer (who, we regret, was prevented by indisposition from attending in his after pointing out the advantages that would result from the general adoption of a liberal commercial policy, wen* into a detailed explanation of the motives that induced Government to propose an altesation in the silk duties. A reduction on the raw material, and a diminution of the countervailing prohibitory duties on foreign manufactured silk, formed the subject matter of the resolutions proposed. by the Right Hon. Gentleman. He proposed that the re duction on the raw material should take place from the 25th of this month, and that the other put of the plan, for the admission of foreign silk into the British market on the. ' payment of a small duty, should not come into operation till the sth of July, W 26. This delay with regard to the counter vailing duties, Mr. Iluskissonobaerved, was a concession to. those who were enguged in the silk trade, teeny of whose petitions had been presented to the House. He considered, that in two years the British manufacturer would be en abled so to regulate his trade, as not to suffer from the re duction of the prohibitory duties. Mr. Baring, ma the other hand., apprehended that the dread of fo reign competition would be so great, as to throw a damp upon the silk trade of the country, and deter the manufacturer from pursuing it with enterprise and spirit. Ile thought the only effect of the delay would be, to giv,-. those who had atnbarked their capital in this branch of manufacture, an opportunity of gradually withdrawing themselvts from it. After several other members had spoken on the question, the resolutions of Mr. Huskisson were carried without a division. As a measure of relief to the West India Inantess, Mr. Hume, in a Committee of Ways and Means last night, proposed to reduce the duty on sugar from twenty-seven to twenty shillings per hut decd. The Host. Member ob ' served that this reduction would not embarrass the di alms of the country, whilst at the same time it would produce a sensible benefit to the %Vest India Trade. Mr. Baring did not think that the proposed reduction would prodm any relief to the planter; and it would only give the con sumer his sugar at about one halfpenny par pound °heap's than he bought it at present. It appeared by q statement from Mr. Huskisson, that since 1814 the consumption of sugar has increased considerably more than the surplus produce. The Right Hon. Gentleman considered, that I v permitting distillation from sugar, had been propcscti, very little, in the shape of immediate relief, would be pro-. duced. Mr. Rose Ellis was desirous that some general plan of relief should be devised for the West Iwdians, anet that the existing duties should remain. Mr. Calash and Mr. Benett (of Wiltshire) expressed themselves favourablp to the introduction of sugar into the distilleries, when, made . the existing Corn Laws, foreign barley might be import -d. into this country. The amendment of Mr. Hume being strongly opposed by several Members, the non. *110" ultimately withdrew it. . s • THE KING, WI VD/011, NA RC It 7.—Thia atom iug hi; Majesty, ass companied by his princ ip al littendants, and some of the Royal Ifousehold, attended divine service in ;hc, Castle, The service was performed by the Rev. Mr. Sumner. Yesterday afternoon (Saturday) at half-past two tided:, his Majesty took his accustomed dries in his pan amore to the Lodge in the Great Park, attended by th 4 Illatnum of Conynghatri, and returned at half-past fonetf •.. Castle to dinner, r Yesterday meriting, soon after breakfast, the Trincer• 1 Augusta left Bushy Park, where her Royal Ifiglinen haft been on a visit to the Duke and Duchess of Clarence. Iler Royal Highness proceeded to her intended rAddetsto in the King's Palace, St. James's, where the Princeir was soon taw joined by the Duchess of Gloucester and the Prim ..s Sophia. The Royal &stem examined the alteradone which have been making for the reception of the ?rine*, after which their Royal Highnesses adjourned foThe teslilehee o? the Duke of York, where she Princesses pertook of a de. jeunr, from whence they proceeded to Gloucester House. at which place the Princess Augusta's trecelling eenfa k e took up her Royal Highness, and conveyed bee to Frsee, more, near Windror. Despatches have been received at the Admiralty from Vice-Admiral Sir Harry Neale, dated the ststh February. off Algiers, where Sir Harry was maintaining a strict block ade of that port, in which it was supposed the whole X- I gerine force was collected. Although it is evident, film) the continuation of hostilities, that the Dey had not iniaa the full concessions required of him, it is understood die:. on the appearance of the British Admiral, he bpi direct,4 some European captives, lately mule, to be placed on the footing of prisoners of war, although they had up tti that time been treated as slaves. Yesterday accounts were received from Gibraltar to the 17th ult. tTp to that date no recent intelligcne.• had i;e.n received from Algiers or Tunis. Letters from Cadiz stilt 4 that the Military Commandant had made strong remon strances to the Court of Madrid respecting the efforts mule by the Constitutionalists (who had taken refuge in Gibral tar) to open a correspondence with the disaffected it fades. From these accounts it would appear the measures tak en had been already attended with serious consequent. F. Letters were yesterday received from Peru, dat d October (by the way of Gibraltar), which state that too Royalist, N aides, had completely defeated the in,l resident forces under Santa Cruz; it is stated that only 101 f *ten were left, out of an army of 4,000 melt ; and that . 14E ~jji retreated to Moequera, This mount, coming in a'•:iiy eaftv cuitous, and not very authentic shape, must be ree.ived with much caution. We find, however, it oceariowed s fall of 2 per cent. in Chili stock. Accounts from Cuba state that the inhabitants are far from being satisfied with the new order of things; sad that some proclamations in manuscript had been handed 1111010, calculated to excite a revolt. The London Society for Improving the Condition of the Irish Peasantry have ordered a large quantity of sees Zealand flax, to be cultivatedin the county of Cork.—Dea , lin Evening Herald. COUNTY OF LEITRIM ELECTION.—. 4 smart content is anticipated in this county, one of the seats for which is vacated by the death of Luke White, Esq. It is already announced that one of the Latoue.he family, and a Miier Ormsby Gore, will contend respectively against Mr. Whitv, Hut the son of their late Representative is too moth ia fa with the independent freeholders to apprehend the eerier, quences. We have heard that a fourth Candidate' will shortly declare himself.—Dublin Morning Post. BARNSTAPLE ELECTION.—The election for one mon ber to scree in Parliament commenced on Saturtloty, Gilt inst. The following was the state of the poll at four o'clock on that day:—Mr. Nolan, to;—Alderman Atkins, 94—Mr. Hodgson, 39. A few days since an alarming accident happened r the Earl of Abingdon. on his return from Oxford to IViilutitt on horseback. The horse fell down suddenly, and it is supposed rolled over his Lordship. He WaS taki.n up In sensible, and remained so for some hours ; but basing ft ceived medical assistance, it was discovered that 1. - o ?.4.4. effects were to ht apprehended. His Lordship is nal , / Past recovering, although exhibiting strong works of the acei , dent. 1 4 1 .1, li . : • '1 Pi + ) . I' • ' I 4 . 4 s : 1' If 41 1 I.: ) 1 1 • , 1 1 i i 4 1 1 1 ' 1 I . , . 1 • d f . ( • I Si I ! 1: I I 1 : t ii 1 : ? 4 1 , I I 1 1 . .l , ; r ( 1 ; 1 I . 4 ( I . • : . ;. .' i+ t i 1 ; .I ! '• 4 I 4 H E , ; 1 • i ' I • 1 . t : 1 i 4.