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• from the Throne, that they would pay o endatton i c ular i• ention to the maintenance of the pub credit. Having before felt the immense benefit . it - sirb our credit derived from the system of raising ' por tion of the suppli es within the y ear ; and i r t h ' n air of ptrticular hardship on in wfor the time, et be believed the general livitiaats it was y the only plan which could olrltiinrnlt.'intelvyas4thoaltd and secure the best interests of ;rumor!. itbeut trespassing any further upon t s i i it o r t ime, he said he should, for t e present, content . n sell with proposing the Address, which he then et and nwhich, a s usual, consisted of a para the Speech, whose sentiment s it ap ve o yed, and whose recommendations it promised to slept. cf-lARLF.S ADAMS seconded the Motion. for the able mariner in which the present state of 'mope and this country had been represented to hem t his day, from the Throne , it would, ha said, v ery unnecessary for him to occupy their attention ,ng, by comments which he could offet on any of he ;N es Gentlemen might think conneCted i t t in 'Fite task, therefore, he had to perform, :is the clonal - 111 one of joining in the general exult oinn of them all, at the present condition of the „wry, and that unanimity, which, he made no ould be ma nifested by Gentlemen on all odes, upon the present occasion. It was a proud and triumphant refleCtion, that, after all the tacconaJing and furious menaces, which had been bunched against us for such a length of time, our naro d superiority ha d enabled us not only to prate& or on% s hores from injury and insult, but elso to black rip the enemy's squadrons, and shut them up ft t h e ir own harbours, from the .Idtintic to the It no dooto, damped consLlerably the 11.41 f IC. pleasant sent ttions we should otherwise feel, that in Spain vie were to behold a new enemy .unfl tie Con jinn: but but when it w a s felt that'Spairo cover:loyd by theipower mid influence t.f France, after num berless aggressions and ails of hostility, would re snit n oadon, nor yield to any expostulations o s condo& we must console ourselves by the I epnsideration, that there are moments when for be:trance becomes pusillnitimity, and patience be- Certif.:: criminal. He expressed his satisfation at finirro'n that overtures of a pacific nature bad been made by France, and hoped in God that they would prove to be sincere : he also trusted that they wer• answered with dignity as well, as frankness; bet, at all events, proud as he felt in the strength of this nation, and the increasing event of its re sources, he was happy ip seconding an Address which was likely to be carried to the foot of the loons with universal unanimity. The Address being then read . by the S Mr. FOX aieured the House, that he did mo t rise for the purpose of detaining i n herit Innof rninutes. It was not his intertion to move any thing upon the Address, or even to state those objections which be might feel to some passages in the Speech. He meant only shortly to adltt to two omissions of some import ime, as he thought, in the Speech, aitd to noc part of the Address, *which went to approve of His Majesty's determination, not affording more explanation !elating to the offer or overtoreninde by the Freneh Condiment, until he should consult those powers on the Coittinient with wham he pro fessed to have intimate relations. For. his own part, he did not see the necessity for any more explana tion, at present, beyond what was already ctismo nicated in the Speech, namely, that such overtures bad beer! made. It might be possible, that, under certain eircemstances, there might not have bean any material differenc • of opinion on this subject, but, knowing no more thin he did at present, he did not see how hp could conscientiously approve nf Ills Majesty's rletninsipation not to explain further, till he consulted, .n.pt his allies, lot he hadol9 public allies, at twist, ppon the Continent, but with those powers with whom he kept up some confidential relations. Perhaps, had he known is much of the subject as those who advised thin paragraph in the Speech, he might have ap proved of it, and it might be very possible that st would have happened otherwise; buthe could not consent to give his approbation of a conduct of which he knew so little, nor did he see why he should be called upon to give it. As to the omissions which he alluded to, the most material was, that of the state of the Roman Catholics.of Ireland. He con fessed, that when he first heard the name of the Honourable Gentleman who moved the Address mentioned, he was strongly confirmed in the opinion lie before entertained, that their situation would form a leading part of the Speech which was to be pro nounced from the Throne atthecomroencement of Session. tiny thing was wanting to support him in th a persu whom it would be the pledges and engage. ra seas formerly entered into by His Majesty's pre sent Ministers. Considering well these things, he must acknowledge his great di.appointment at not finding the first recommendation on the part of His hlafesty to Iw, that this House should take Mtn its I:notediate consideration the best means of consoli- Oatiag tie union between this country and 'lreland, he acceding to the just wishes of the Irish Boman Catholics. This subjeCi, however, must speedily come, in come shape or other, under the considera tion of the House, for, till that was done, thete was no honest or refleeting man could soy that there was any security for the preservation of the British Empire. He was very glad to hear from the Ho arse: able Gentleman ( Mr. Dillon), that the mili tary and naval force of Ireland was greatly im proved in its strength and discipline ; but he could not Ise contented with that alone, while under the full coneinion, that the best and surest .*Jence of any nation was always to be found the satisfaCtion, the cordiality, and the union of tae people. In speaking of the second omis sico, he wished fist to pr e mise, that whenever this country was called noon by the Govern ment for any great ne extraordinary esettion, he w as ever aecustonted to hear front the throne, in the next session, the el.& produced by these ex ertions in the course of the recess. On all such oc casions it was usual for the Sovereign to compli ment his Parliament on the success of its endea vours. Now, when he recolleded the many night-. consumed, and be believed he might say weed, in the course of the last Session, in discussing the first plan profaned for the improvement of our national defence ; when he remembered the warmth with which that plao es is combatted, and another pro. P" . ( 1 Sc a better sinotitute, by those who now took Le lead in Hu Majesty's councils he had a right • to expert that the House shesphl be informed, not of the order or improved skill of 41f Volunteers and others, but of the success of what was to constitute the whole differencebetween the efieetive measures of thipresentMinisters,and,as itwas called, the debility and incapacity of their predecessors. But finding, as he now did, that the plap of those now in office had totally and specifically failed, he must consequently ci include one of two things, either that an encreaced military force was no longer necessary, or that some means more effectual remained to be resorted to ; and, as nothing had hitherto been done, in what had o:.:cupied so much of their time in discussing, and its which some Gentlemen displayed such ability and so much power of argument ; he was yet in hoirel, that something might he adopted to supply this (le plorable deficiency. In the earlier part of the last session, it was remarked, that, as there was no great dependence to be placed in the plans of the Chop Ministers, it was necessary to recur to the disagreea ble expedient, of trying What better might be effea ed by the suggestions et individuals. As the House could not, from the experience it had hitherto, place any greater reliance on the present, than it could on what was then invidiously called the Executive Go- ; vernment, he trusted the same nines of individUal suggestion would, for the benefit of the ptilslic, be again resorted to. As to the subjeet of the rupture with Spain, he was not disposed to prejudge the me rits of the case, before lie had the opportunity's'of considering the Manifesto and other documents, which were promised to the House ; but, even at this in,tant, he could not help saying, that, on which ever side the justice of th; case might ußips4tely pre ponderate, the seizing of the Spanish ships had, at first view, at least, a very unseemly appearance. He Ois :est 't to be considered, that there was no time when this country was called upon to stand more Clear of any such imptitation, than the present: • At the moment. when the outrages committed * by . Trance upon the rights and laws of nations, out rages so flagrant that it was impossible to justify or palliate thens, were trumpetted in the ears of all other governments, as inducements to espouse the cause In which we were embarked, we should have :been mindful that it be' oved those,who stood forth as the advocates of justice and moderation, to be just , and moderate themselves, so as not to leave it in the poiier of surrounding states, whether neutral or otherwise, to say We see outrages and viola tions of all kinds committed, and, what is still worse, we have the mortification of seeing two great na tions vying with each other which shall be the most violent and the most outrageous." These, in his mind, should be the sentiments of the House, which ought to decide, without any partiality to its own Government. and without considering whether the outrage, if it was such, was against Spain, or any other country. Mr. PITT expressed himself very happy to find, that it would not be necessary for him to trouble , the House with many words upon the present occa sion, and should therefore confine himself to a few remarks on the observations just made by the Hon. Gentleman. He had properly declined expressing - any opinion of the conoltia of the British Govern ment, in oot entering into any negociation with F: ante, without consulting those Powers with whom we had confidential relations, and particularly the Emperor of Russia, who had already afforded se many proofs of his wisdom and magnanimity, r d had given the most explicit assurances of friendship to this country. He agreed with the Honourable Gentleman, that no person bad a 'right to call d him to pledge himself to a specific - approbation of sebjeCt, on which he was, in a great measure, unin. formed : but, until the proper documents could be produced. it was sufficient for the purpose of this address, that His Majesty had stated his being eng,..ged in serious ne g otiations with ra er nations, in affairs relatingto the objeas of the present war. This alone, he thought, might sa tisfy any considerate man, that , while His Majesty was in these intimate and confidential relations with se wise and powerful a Prince, he might safely ap prove of his not prematurely committing himself in a negotiation with France, at the very first pro and without any communication whatever with that power with which he was engaged in a negoc:ation of great consequence. 'lle commit him self in so inconsiderate a manner, would, in his opi nion, be neither prudent or politic, in any way in which it could be taken ; but, surely, the Hon. Gentleman must be perfelly aware, that there must be periods in important and confidential negocia tions, in which both wisdom and policy must forbid any communication or disclosure. He was sure the lion. Gentleman could not mistake him when Inp confidently asserted that, such were the circling. stances in which the country was engaged at Pier sent, and he trusted the House would give him the credit to believe, that when the proper season for k should arrive, he would withhold no intormation, no, avoid the most full and ample discussion of the sub- SAdverting to the points of omission in the peech, to which the Hon. Gentleman had alluded, he must first observe, that when stated as omissions, they could not possibly be made a part of the debate of this day, though he was aware that they must and would shortly be submitted for the mature and de liberate consideration of -Parliament. From die re mote conneaion they bad with each other, they must, of course, he considered separately, and particularly, when lie should be found ready to de fend the conduit he hail himself pursued in regard to both of them. On the first of them + however, he would forbear remarking the confidence with which the Hon. Gentleman states, that there can be no benefit whatever derived. frowi the Union with Ireland. without making the subjea he alluded to, of the situation of the Catholics, reOrnrandation in the Speech this day delivered from the Throne. He admitted that this was a very important point of consideration ; but when he considered the length of time the Union had already subsisted, and that dur ing that interval he never heard of any proposition having been made to the effea now suggested, he was at a loss to conceive why, at the present mo ment, it should be considered so pressing, as,not to ,admit of the most trifling delay. To be candid, however, with the Hon. Gentleman, be was ready to assure him, that had he thought it so extremely) necessary to recommend that measure, as a leash:at part of His Majesty's Speech this day , t here was n consideration which should have induced him to have omitted it, even on the bioadest grounds that he could leave in contemplation. All he had to say in respea to that subjea wa.•, that he differed is . . , . • ' • opinion from the Hon. Gentler*, on the urgency cif the case at present; why he suffered it to lie dormamft so long, was a thing much easier conceived than explained., and on which •he should decline any further obse:raations at this time. The military measure adverted to .was sueft to the same observation, beinginapplicable as the former ' and he declared, that he was as desirotti as the Hon. Gentleman, or any other person,' that it should be brought into discussion as sqon as possible. When that cooper occasion arrived, he trusted he should be fully able to sheW,that so far from that measure bar. ing totally . and specifically failed, it had produced all the good itlrescapahle of performing, and in most parts of it; ihitead of being abandoned, it ought to he persevered in. He should then prove that, since it had been carried into execution, our military situa tion was, in eiery resned, materially improved. and that nu t; disposable army, the want of which was so greaoy lamented under the former systeni, was itig snsoStd in a propoition far lieyoid what Gentlemen seetnid to be aware 'elf. He was also prepared to explain, that the reason wily it had not Produced a much greater effeit, was, a considerable part of the means, which 'might hafe seen applied to that purpor, *as diverted. in order to strengthen Othpr pints of our force; which were before defedeie. Buts after haring said all this, be acknowledged himself willing to confess every thing; consirel.- ing be was pf opinion that other additioilal. measures Would still be necessary. On the only re maining topic, respectingthe situation of thii try with regard to Spain, whatever the pr i wa .tide appearance of the capture of the : ships might hies impressed upon the mind of the Hon. Gentleman, he mutt beg leave so wave any argument upon it, until the whole of that sabjed should be fully before the House. He admitted to the fullest ex tent the position of the Honourable Gentleman, 1 that the exercise of the virtues of moderation and 1 forbearance, at all times honourable and necessa- ry to the character of a great nation, were never more incumbent upon England, than in the present ,1 moment, when it should studiously avoid subjeffing 1 itself to the same disgrace and reproaches, which 1 , the eenduCt of France had brought upon its Go vernment i • but the occasion would shortly arrive, when he shouJd be able to chew, to the convißion of the House, and the whole world, that the detention of' the Spanish vessels, so far from being any violation of the prim iples of moderation and forbearance, was a modification andiestraint of the rights of war, which His hlajCstywas justly entitled toexerciseonthem ; and when, by vindicating the whole condo& of the Bri tish Government in this respell, he should prove, that in leaving the door still open to conciliation till the Spanish Government declared war, the whole of the proceeding towards Spain was in the spirit of moderation, lenity, and tenderness. Mr. FOX explained, that the Right Hon. Gentle man had not attended the opening of the last Session of Parliament, or he might here known that the. reason he did not propose the Cadudic question then was, because he could not ;sped an assent being given to it by the Ministers of that day, particularly as the adoption of' that measure was represented as peat the greatest objesction to their predecessors. Mr. PITT observed on this, that if such was the case, he.was surprised the Hon. Gentleman did not make it the subjed of a specific Motion. Mr. WiNDH A M contended that, is his opinion,. there was much more implied in His Majesty's speech, as to the moderation adopted in regard to the rupture with Spain, than the measure was really. entitled to. It was true, the documents res it were not at this moment before the House, but he could not help coinciding in opinion with his Honourable Friend, that it would certainly be de sireable to have the opinion of the House on the point, as far as it went, and he, for one, should be sorry, if the House did not give that opinion as far as they were warranted to do. He should be extremely sorry to think that he had risen in the House, and not mentioned his decided reprobation of the measure, so far as met his knowledge of it, and particularly as to how it began. The Right Hon. Gent. had said it was done in a manner that was partly provisional and partly conditional ; but this remained to be proved by the documents which were to be laid before the House, and which, as they were likely to become the subject of debate on some future occasion, he should not at present talts Oath's notice of. There was, however, another passage it! the speech of the Right Hon. Gent. which be could not, consistently with his duty, pass over without. some observation ; and that was " that the state of the army was at this moment more respedable than at the time the measure he alluded to was brought forward. There was certainly a double meaning in the word mpedable, as applied in the present in stance. If, by respeltable, it was meant to say, that it was sufficient in numbers, he would not take up the time of the tloute by contesting the point; but it its being in a state of propsr discipline was the ques tion, he teared the Right Hon. Gent. bad shewn him self too sanguine in his expettations. He then ad verted to a subjed, which, he said. hisd been brought forward in the comae Cif the lastSessionof Parliament, but which, had not been taken tip by the House. It WAS, however, in his mind, a matter of such high iroportanue. that it no other persqn should think it oecesser" to bring it fOrward, he should certainly deem i ts ditty to do it. .What he alluded to was one of the most gross and flagrant violations of the law of riatihns that was ever heard of. The ins. prisooment of Csptain Wright in the Temple at Paris, who had fen treated in such a marines was never before kiwis n in the records and annals the history of the civilised %lea He wished only to recall it to the minds of His Majesty's Ministers, that this matter is still fresh and warm in the minds of the people of this (wintry ; that they are burning with indigna tion at the idea of such treatment having been sub mitted to ; and the sentiment he now expressed, he wished to come in aid of the. feelings and senti ments of the country at large. He thought it requisite to use every means in our power to countered a condult, so outrageous to humanity, and so hostile and repugnant to the established laws of nations ; and if nothing else would do it, we could at least resort to the fair mode of retalia tion, and make reprisals on those subjects of the enemy, who, is the course of the chances of war, happen to be in a similar state of confineni.nt in this country. Under these impressions, he should cer tainly feel it his duty; to move for a ComMittee to take this subject into consideration; and he could - . • not by any means allow himself to defer it for any length of time. • The question was then put on the Address, and carried unanimously. Mr. WINDH AM then gave notice, that he would move for the appointment of the said Corn inittke on Monday se'nnight.—Adjourned. THE BRITISH PRESS. ----- an • • LON ijON, WEDNESDAY, JANUAKY IG. His MAJESTY yesterday opened the Session with most gracious Speech from the throne. It was universally allowed, that he never delivered a speech with more firmness, or in a mete complete manner. We shall only observe at present, that in its; man points of a pacific overture from France, and the answer, we yesterday stated the substance truly. We should apprehend, from the conversation that took place in both Houses, that our eonneaina with Russia is much more intimate than it has been enerally supposed ; but nothing transpired to give a view of the state of Parties. Both Houses were well attended, particularly the Lords, which we have seldom seen so full. From the few words that fell from the Duke of CL ARLSCE, we should presume that His Royal Highness is in Opposition. The Kura having been pleased to declare the Right Hon. HENRY Viscount SID 4OUTII, Lord Pre sident of His MAJESTY'S Most Honourable Privy Council: in the room of His Grace WILLs an HENRY Carer:oasis, Duke of Portlaoi, who has been permitted to retire on account of ill health ; Lord 'Viscount St °MOUT'', on Monday last, took his ' place at the Board accordingly.—Gate!!.. His MAJESTY having also been pleased to deliver the custody of the Seals of the Duchv of Lancaster to the Right Hon. ROIERT Earl of BUCKINGR• 111 Slit az, the usual oath was on Monday admiuntered to his Lordship.—Casette. The Right Honourable Joins Hooklike! Fe m. the Right Hon. Nirnot•s V ANSITTAIT. the Right Hon. REGINALD Pots Cat sw, and the Right Rm. JOHN SULLIVAN, were, on Monday, sworn of His MAJESTY'S Most Honnurable Privy Council. and took their resperilive places at the Board accordingly. The Martinis COSNWALLts arrived in town yes terday, and is preparing for his immediate de parture to India. His Lordship has appointed Captain G. A. Rosins° er, of Nottingham-place, his Aid-de-Camp. The Officer, who was bearer of the dispatch (tom France, did aftually sail for France on Thursday evening in the bitraeriairte. The weather was so boisterous on Friday. that all communication wish the shore was impratfficable. But on Saturday he was landed at Boulogne. Mr. BRAGGa RATHiiIIST has accepted the Office of Chief State Secretary in Ireland, vice Slr FarAtt NEet AN, promoted to a seat at the Board of Ad miralty. Part of the Newfoundland feet have arrived under convoy of the Ranger sloop. They patted in a heavy gale, but the remainder are supposed io have stood tor Ireland and the Bristol Channel. The Two Brothrrs, SSLOA, from Lisbon, for Lon don, is lost near Margate. The Padeay, —, from Cardiff, for London, has been taken, retaken, and carried into Penzance. Since the rupture with Spain, Generic Basest . , Esq. of Rotherhithe, has equipped three private ships of war. The Cororepolite, of 18 guise, which lsa captured a Dutch ship value 80,0001. now lying at Blackwell. The other two, at Gravesend. are sic• tualling with all possible dispatch, to sail fur Sorni America. There is no doubt of their scenes. a having enterprising officers and men on board. BK E AD.—Yesterday, the Loan Maros, after rn :peeling the Mealweighers' Returns, ordered th Bread to be lowered three-farthings in the Quarter Loaf, to take place to-morrow. The Quartc - n Loa Wheaten will then be sold for one shilling and three pence farthing—and that of Household, one shillin and one penny three farthings. Monday was launched from Mr. DUDSIAN'S dot i yard, at Deptford, a fine ship of NO tons, calk the June, Dockets ol Gordon, built by C. CHRifall Esq. and to be commanded by Joins CA SISIIOI Esq. for the service of the Hon curable Fast-Ind Company. She slid off the stocks with great r deur and citations, at the time appointed. aff.rai infinite satin:Aim to a very numerous and respea , ble assemblage of the friends of the owners, among whom were several beautiful females. After pa taking of a very elegant cold collation at the hoe of Mr. DUGSS AN, the company retired ; and the m, part met again at six o'clock, at the London Tavel where a most elegant dinner was provided. with profusion of the choicest wines of almo t every nomination; 41,ant BO people sat down to din Immediately altar which, Non NAI D01111...e ss sung by Messrs. DIONL &c. A number of toasts 'reregister', and the company broke up aka II o'clock, highly delighted with the pleasures the day, and ihe liberality of the owners. The Capital Prizes in the late Lottery went tire'' , among the Public—the Costradors did get a single Capital ; and, out of the Fifteen Co LAI Prises which the Scheme contained, Hiss+ and shared r tvE, at his Offices, Cornhill and CI ing Cross. 'Co their immortal honour, our gallant Ye'oin, have given an attention to militat y d'e:cipline,w the cause of their country. The Corsican Csu, is so COIISCIOUS of their spirited condnet, that it i wonder lie is so very backward to try with them British ground, the Firionr do Goer". ti no reason why our volunteer heroes should nod this Critical moment, direr* their attention to Whrel of &twee, especially as she is so ttaiver known to " favour the boll." In troth, th, re description of msn who have a fairer claim to Orte's special notice in the ensuing all-nnerei tottery, than those patriotic Charaeters who so n ' tame forward, and who so perseveringly concuss 'gra:icy throiselves, to hod exemplary reap:La, the common dinurber of the world. • . . me day in which As, however, th e it, that the gre at . the Niible Mar irepared, he s aw lot be laid upon ness was pressin g . said, if it were ld bring fot vrari M so ; at the same r a day would be ng, some alteh df one of the at. is might not be ver, as he had de it recede from his to-morrow, if the me, he wished the ,nday. that the nonce n, that t h e pa • Monday, 41,,, tm into cow, • acquiesced in ci hat from the min. ,pelting whs m Iw aimed himself, asj n their Lordships. vote. He aecosil am he reappointe4 aces, Scc. of th e ijournect. several Mernbz!g lock, and in abou [so having at - live' :nt, Mr. Quarms, delivered to the that they should nuFe of Peers. :tubers present, int. wturn he informed t of the 34th of His luring the rece,i, to serve in Plrh3- of Sir G. S. m, in the room of mtries, in the room !ceased ; for Tot. ad, Esq. deceased. ten took the oaths them G. B. Main ! for the County of between 6ir Wm. tdettine Outlawrin ed to be read a sti • that this is a pro commet.:-.:.:tent of isert the right and prcii:end upon any •cviously to titkkg message coming lumbers, new win e Election of Istem. the County of Ant. erry, deceased; (or ht Hon. Henry M ount Sitimouth ; for the room of Sir.. rnor of Ceylon; ftt: room of J. Buller, Chiltern Hundreds; Montgomery, Esq. e of Scotland ; :harles Hope, L• 4. [cc Clet k. is. ed the House thi: the House of Peers, >a gracious Speech avoid mistakes, lie then read. (For a sport of the House D I L LON then rose moving all Address • his most gracious le should have occa little time, as, per n a Speech delivered Id pozsibly crane less was more entitled Many of the pr.- = speech v 4-... si. neral satisfaction a • :oantry ; and t:wu.•.. mite some ditfciel. , - Co propriety be mad, in he should have the use. Of this nature he h to be. which related of SpAia, itlfiutn:ced ►and the overbearing my. U ;eon that sub in, offer no opinion A but every Member king that the prorei when the Manifest ‘. Used in Tits Majeso's. t.rtsie. it most re rhat whatever may .w Lai:. nature 1.2 t b. _ and that, hum (114 peror of Russia, a id s committed by the he affairs of Europ• raging and chvrin le at the cAnmence circumstaoce etitt ill! through the M4ACIIT 4( he wisdom ut Parke y, and 9464 shorn le realm At ge , otu was so 111.1(C1 ially int om the" dAn3ors watt atoned. Ile felt pe. his own testin•ody to fully exerted in that le more pecellt.atsy be' :tidy considered as the Adverted to tilt !Wow