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~~ • - but can I imagine that I.d. Cluticarty, the Inman to giums that Noble Lord recommended Alr. Boding, Ifece!;4,l the Noble Lord's interest? If be did Mat receive it. then there'siust uttiich to the Noble Lad a strong suspicioli-that this Patronage to disposed of must have been couvertible into moot> , in some slimmer or other. I have hood. Cart the Noble Lord has said he disdained such ' iiractices; Jolt I think sucli'a declaration would have come with a much better Oct if we iced not had this evidence laid before us. When I see patronage dieposed of throbkh such a than , nel, and know that he was President of the Board, a ill that Lord Ciento. ty also belonged to it, and t tat Mr. Reding had b. en petitioning that Board, I mutt say that the Lord could not huve been ignorant of what had happened, I must now c ell your attention to a feature of this traidaCtion, which applies to this allectatinio of disdain winch be expressed mom hearing such au aecilsatioll as this made ageltiSt •In page 61, of the evi d-tlices a Mr. tit r e ge Davis is examined, and there av,iears to have been, at the time lee alludes to, a u .groiatiou set ou font fur the procuring of a seri tership which did not take effect; but there was ,some correspondence upon. the subject, and the _ Noble Lord's mime was mentioned. Mr. Davis ta itt.ked, From what rea,un du you suppose the uegotiatioo broke off? Teis re.toon was explained by Mrs, Cirove ; that at that nensuent there was a , Change in tt istration,. and that it watt a Board of Coutroui appeintilietit. l or-Ale-et Mr. Itediug, or Readiug, aftet'w.tvtl, informed nie, that there was km Court suli,coltio•oot to that itio.aent, aluoug the then aillaini.aratiori, by which a fluorination could properly take -place ; or the card, I do n ot kat* whether it warm card, or how, but that Alert was so opportunity of the proem being appointed. Who was at the head of the Board of -Controul at . that time do not know. Did she not mention by whom it was to be given to your friend ?—A noble Viscount was mentioned to We. Was not Lori , Castlereagh the pcnimi meittioned ?-11e was. Was . : Lord Castlereagh the person to whom you wrote, • commuoicatiug .these eireilaistanc-s ?—hie was. Plow lung :ego .was that transaCt'oll ?—lt was in the beginning of 1.946 ; it was at the moment or the .atheuge of Administration that site applied for it. When 1 v. rote to his Lordship, Ire requested cue to cell upon Jinn at his olliee in Dow iiiiigestreet, aced I did on that clue. Did. you see lieu ?or- Pia, lie was at the Connell ; Intel I reeti veil a . note the next day, aLloosledging the lek 1.10 of it. and ruetustieg that I would replan' every lin t h at the party who had made use of his rune should lie deuscted, or something of that Did he decline seeing you ?—No, so far from that, Ins servant 'delivered to tier h.. compliments, and desired that.l would call at his house in Doweeing etreet. and, if he was not there, gee to the Douse ofCuoinions. You have net seen him Ms•No, I have not. And no appoiuttneUt was made for reeilig Joni in the note you received ?.....No; bat he re giteeited I would lend my aid in order that die party _wisp would be during ennogn to inake so improper a use of his uauie (I 'Milk that was the impression) should i lt exported. You could produce tile note, if nece ry 3—e Yes. eertaiuly." Now, Sir, the rib sere:v.l4; I make upon this evidence is, was that deelaratiou of the Noble Lord a gement. siucere, end honest declaration or not? All this took place liter the former negotiatiou had been hegun, :mil broken off ; /Hear hear ! hear .1 . ) and yet he aliettis upon this hot 0(1.4,nm to be s o iadignaut, that Hr deisires the persm's witite to be mentioned, iu order that he might be detected.. it possible that, under such circuinstahces, this }louse Can give lona credit for those feciauge? Can We supliose that he, Who 111111 been the guilty in strument iu rtlrcteci urgotiatiout of this nature formerly, was actoatv,l by a sincere intention to pepose and discounttnatice such a practice, other— wise than that he might thereby prevent has bring exposed himself ?—/Hear ! hear ! hear !) I have no thniht, that lit would rather hare etprewil Mr. Ihrdiug, or Mr. Davies. i li ac hare iiifoirreel the {]auger of exposing !mitotic; and that it was the fear ',fatter:owl, lather than a wish for the dis covery of guilt, that prompted his Lordship to that conduct. 1 stand here in the correction of the Noble Lord and his blends around nun, as to whe- Saes' I am (loin lutp autejustice in this statement. It is for theta to say, of I am in error ; but I shall retract any part of this accusation which the evi dence warnuits'ine in making. If it were iritpro per for Mr. Davies, Mr. Bedong, or Mrs. Grove, to bring disrepute ilitOtt offiversof Goveromeut, who were they that were guilty of permitting that int. propriety to exist ? I contend that when the Noble Lord's jealousy aas peculiarly excited ; he had at that time (lone all in leis noqer to effect a corrupt exchurige of a writership. for a teat in Parliament ; Po' I min ticrer admit that his delicacy in this conld ' have proceeded l'iom any other &thug than the fear of detection.—(Hear h-ar Ifsit were really improper to couple his mime witlisue:i a transaction, f trust that when it iipneai•s tat leave been *filially a coupled, lahall rind u justilicativm es the eyes of toe Noble Lord, mid those around him, for brieging forward such a transaction to public emote, as is uilar to that of which the Noble Lord himself says, the authors ought to have been exposed. Tne Noble Lord must acknowledge elm I um right, or 'he must shew that this transaction was not of the same kind with theist other our. What erodd he meant by thuse items, that the party makiiig use of his 'tame. should be deemed and exposed? Mew were they to le...exposed ? If de tected, 1 suppose the Noble Lord, or les learre Law Friends would have i.ioutdiatel, 'meowed is prosecution asoiriK WNW perstm wait tttg ei-e of his at me; and how 1 call .. upon this !louse to (le that which we would hire beausloing uprei threw ;tell titian's, had they been couvieted call noon you to hillict that same poirsioneitt mem tie alrrady Ice r Hear !i— -ll arty such persons as llime the Noble Lied wished to detect, hail hems convicted, punisivie,it must have followed, although mouths and vesirl. might home elapsed !whirr their guilt .eras covered ; hint 1 say, that so fir from thecir conduct being unjust or iiiewoper. I contend that coo wo u ld have heel, tiatitled to conclude after the discoestry of this delirsoncisey, that 'these rink:me/1i fad obscure inilividusa , had sodired an unmerited have trouldedi the /louse at con siderably greater bregto thews( 'Mewled, hut I • chid* it will sow appear thatlbe iinportatita of .. Is . ' • • • .• 'Mined IX" this twat:lan 3.ields b none that eta braatcht before this House. The power, privileges, and immunities, attacked to those in office, must not semen them from censure. We inustahow the pub die, that weAtre inclined to porsseavith impartial justice any crime wherever it makes its appearance. I say it is a mockery of justice, to affect to censure persous comparatively inconsiderable, if we are to suffer a Noble Lord, filling the office of Secretary of State, (Lord Castlereagh) another Noble Lord, a Member of the Board of Controill, (Lord Claucurty) and a third, a Peer of the realm, (allotting, we believe, to the Marquis of Sligo,) to escape unnoticed. if we call do this, we shall for ever lose our reputation for impartial justice, for a ease more flagrant and glaring can never come be forethis House. I have been supposiug the ease of a person who might have been convicted - of a slander upon the nob!e Lord ; now I shall allude to what we lately heard upon a late discussion. We beard that the Chancellor of the Exchequer had thought proper, iy consequence of some utlvertisement IU the patter*, offerino a situation for sale to lodge a con of money, and took every step in his power, in order to entrap the poor unfortunate individual. (Hesr, hear. hear.) Now I would wish the Hy use to reflect if this trap of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, so admirably contrived, had been also laid to immure those concerned in the transaction I have been describing, I think he would have been not a little surprised to have caught his Noble Friend who now sits near him, together with his two Noble accomplices—(Laugh tee.) That Right floc Gentleman ought to have laid his trap upon this occasion, ar well as upon the other, for the first appearance of this writership was by advertisetneut pi the public papers, and if he heel only applied his trap a little wooer. fie would have undoubtedly found two of his col 'emotes anal a peer of the realru,—(Hear ! hear ! hear.'/ Supposing that Right lion. Gentleman goes on with the prosecution of those whom, he says, be has already entrapped, and will be able to brim; them to conviction; what all be the feelings of this (louse and the public, if they, shall find in it a case comparatively trivial to this one, which. although most flagrant, has escaped without notice mid without censure. There is one circumstance which I have omitted to notice, and which may appear to pface one in an invidious ' nom It. is, that this evidence has lain a con siderable while upon your table, which I mean to mote should he read, and on which I aim to groan,' a motion of censure against that Noble Lord, and yet no one of the Committee who made that report, has thought proper p make auy • observations upon the flagrant cluirgi i o t contain., and there has appeared no actual isitentiiin of no ticing the transaction itself. I own it did surprise me that such evidence could have been laid upon the Table, without any notice being taken of it ; but however invidious it may appear, I own that I had no sooner read it, than the flagrancy of the offence struck me, and feeling every respect for thet Committee and that Chairman, I could not refrain from (hang what I conceived to he a public duty. It is not, however, to be sop po-eti, that they should do more titan %tate the fact. anti therefore I men, to make no sort of insinuation against them for not having made a recpaanietida tion. What possible ciefence can be made by the Noble Lord, or his friends, I mu truly at a loss to conceive, for I know of nothing they can have to offer either in justification or exteimation of such an offence. It may be stated, that he has done no more than what others have done betiwe hint ; and if so, I shall only say. that in all former totes actions of this nature, a similiar inquiry and a si milar censure has taken place as that which I now ask far. jcianniat agree with the srntimeurs of an Honourable and Learned Geutlemaii opposite, when he stated that the evidence of an accomplice is to be rejected. In this case here is both it prin cipal and an accomplice implicated. and I situ prepared to argue that point. should it lie set up. If 1 were now calling for the censure of the (liaise upon a transaction, a system of corruption, w hich had at any time appeared of a justifiable nature, it might be incumbert upon me to urge further ar gui neat that I have flout., but at present the question merely appears to be. has this offence been coin . mitted or not? This is a queatiou which the (louse has ill their power to determine from the midence be fore them, and indeed 1 need no other assistance than what comes from the lips of the Noble Lord himself. I have refrained from casting any imputation upon the accused that the evidence doe; unt fully warrant ; and I shall Et* glad to hear abet he hes to otter in contradiction to that testimony which is already be fore us ; and as I know it is usual for the !louse to permit persons accused to state any observations that may occur in their defence, as well us to per- Mit the accuser to reply, I shall not trespass at pre seta more tyro, your patieoce than to repeat my assittanee that I have acted ' froua no other motive dem a conscientious discharge of my duty." The Noble Lord then concluded his statement. by mov ing, !!‘ That the evidence of Lunt Castlereagh, LAM Clancarty, arid Mr. Reding, be read." , The SPEAKER, previous to putting the question, stated to the House, that the practice, in such ewes as this, hail been for upwards of a hisseared years, when soy charge is, made against may Slob. Mem ber of that !louse, he should be heard iii his place, in his defence ; and then, that he should withdraw, and afterwards, that the lions Member accusing, to propose any offer lie may thiuk proper to make, for the discussion of the House. On the question being !wormed from the Chair; Lord C4STIARBA(III rote, and made a defence, of whieli the folloWing is the purport t—„ Before I troutile the !loose by entering into the particulars of the transaction upon winch the Noble Lord, who has just rat down, has fonlidoll his charge against nv-, I must express my regret that any ai - tiun of mine should have induced Parliament to occupy itr time iii rli•enssing. The kittlilie, how ever, have as interest in upholding the privileges a n d dig n ity o f the !loose of their 11.-presente tives; and, I moat say, that a peculiar degree of responsibility atbieher upon thine whom His Majesty entrusts with his confidence. But I trustl that if I have done any thing in the discharge of my official duty, I can chew that it has been done from no bawl motive, nor from any disposition to net improperly. I rim es.ure the Hone, that I have ever been reluetimt in lending myself to uny „thing that is injurious to the totuitry or to the ea.- thority of Parliaruent. 1 most say, in the outset, that so far from the charge now Willie being hot. tomed ingot% 'the evidence which I myself gave be fore tho.Comosittee, St rather appears to in the teeth °l'd. If this transaction, Whether right or wrong, coold be coupled with any iitt,:o tional purpose on . my part to acquire an undue influence in this blouse, I should say that no case of a more aggravated nature could have come be fore you. ISo man eau with Justice impute to our, from the evidence ou the table, that this watinis proper management of the influence of the Crown. It appears, with the exception of this one iodated case, there never was an attempt of the kind during the whole.iture I have been in office. This, 'which the Noble Lord has beim pleased to detioniiitute corrupt species of traffic, was evidently IMAM utt in temperate inutiuu, nor was , it an attempt tilt eft Lord Clanearty into Parliament through any MI , proper use at' the patronage of office. It distinctly appears, from every thing that passed between this Mr. Reding cud myself, that there was an nutlet dual who was desirous of procuring my return to Parliament, and wished an, apponituwut tut a re lative iu India. I acknowledge to the llonte that it is with great regret that any tliiag should have given rive to any iiitereeuratt with a man of Mr. Iteding't description, as he turned nut to have been a sort of trafficking broker, who goes übout transacting busi ness of that nature very unjuetitiably. 1 had reu!ly au notice, at the time he ramie to me, that there was such a person in existence. Ile wrote to me that there was a Gentlemen iu this Rouse who wished to vacate his seat, and that Int could plocuie my return in his stead. So far there can be leo gronud of complaint attaching to the train:au:bon. I did fairly conceive that Mr. Reding was a gentleman sent to me by that Member to make this cominunicotion, and to require my advice. As to the application tOr a writerehip made on the part of Lord Clan tarty, he never conceived it to have been in tended to apply geuerclly to a seat in Parliament ; but 1 certainly thought it highly derireable that that Noble Lord should have a twat in Parliament, both on account of his abiliti-s, and the quantity of business for which he was peculiarly adapted, was so great, that he was likely to be of great advan tage to the public service. It no sooner appeared that there was a degree of turpitude in the trans action with this Ur. Reding, than it was put an end to. If I have been entering into any traffic to receive money fur the sale of a place, it itsight naturally be s upp o s e d th at I should have required security for the payment ; but nothing of the kind took pli te e„ as %worse', from the tivadonce bet; ire the i louse. As I did not require the seat alluded to by Mr. Ratting, I sent his letter to Lord Chowitrty, tied the only colt. wertiation he had with him, was his iuquiripg who was the petrol' disposed to retire from Parliament, and finding he could not get that inforruat.oti from him, lie broke off the transaction. The ne:Totia tioo never having beeu resumed, it was evident that the bartering of a Writership for a seat in Parliament, was as foreign from Lord Clan earty'e mind, as it was. from maw. As is the case of Mr. Davies, the fact is, I never saw that perwin in my life ; although it is said, he called upon ate in Dow AA I)) g-strert, in come - quence of a message front my porter, in answer to his nuts.--1 eau only say, that lat that time un derstood him to be Mr. Davies, the Member fur Colchester; and understanding from bum, that there had been an application far a wri terhip made, iu what 1 couceiveil all improper course, I wrote t o him to attend the Committee, in order to state hew my mime should at all be implicated; and I did re quest lie Committee to (loci. into an investigation of that transaction. There could he no appuintnient to a Writership without its previously being lis t:enabled that the person to whom it was to he' given was eligible, so that no impropt r infriegeinent of the regulations of the Directors hail taken place. It hes been stated as a circumstance of particular aggravation, that d in my situation as President of the Board of Controul, did make use of the in , fluenee which I possessed iu consequelice of 4hest situation, to promote the election of a 'Member of l'arliernent. The object of the Legislature in vest ing the patronage in the hands of the Directors themselves, was evidently to break down the Pa tronage of the Crown ; but the Legislature never indulged the romantic idea of preventing any &ban her of the tiovermisent from rase-nine any hide euce in the apponitinent of inferior officers cuts nected with that department. I admit, that in J im iuetenee should it be pushed beyond w hat common custom has saisetioned; but the uppointutents which, as a matter of grace and favour, arc It ft at the disposal of the President of the Board of Coe trout, may be testowed by him without any injury t o the public. I allow that a Minister us placediu a very responsible tutu:llion, but I delay that he is ' more responsible in a case which occurred is) 'mother office, than in one ta hick has happened its his peculiar departineut. There me many gesitle men, I am persuaded, who find themselves in the poisseit.iou of the mime Patronage nut of office as front the courtesy of those with who n they had its ell iii the habit of attirig. The; Board of Direc tor du certmitily make a declaration which binds tie* particularly in each cases ; but it does not follies that other persons who make no such declaration are to he considered a. having their errors aggravated be the breath of what they have not pledged theme Ives to. flaying said thus Mulch upon the aggravation. in my opinion charged by the Noble Lord, it will not be is t • I. wiry for Mr to trespass upon the attentimi of the Douse much looter it is in possession of the tet% upon which' it is to decide, 41141 I ton confident will eyerri,e• itejudgnieut with roolness and with caselout. It' I was called before the Comaiittee to pave uu replan/terns of this transaction, and was not prevented by that secrecy which my official duty might impose, I would not, from any cansi del atiou of peasotiel and private feting, abstain loin au opeu de•elopetnent of all I was acquainted aril,. Daring had the ipisfurtutie to have my name mixed with persons of a certain description, with whom it was not creditable to be usseciated, l it was more satisfactory tome to be involved in any Parliamentary inquiry, whatever its consequences might be, than remelt' sahjert to that imputation of turpitude and unworthy feeling, which, if not stated distinctly,. ant met fairly, might attach 'o my character. I can assure the Hoare, that what. alter (spinier they may satertain of the transaction O • in gnestion,• nothing einrid be forthr mind thou to nieka at boimeivo tit to t, fro l o 'pi 113), corru pt l usep thdt I co,_ miequa: • k Went, j Oa prttc to II: influence; and 1 can Repute the li. though the inditidisel was %Ad 1144 Mel ceived him to be a person, pei Emily to the situation, mud. as tar as. polities', understood him 'to he' cohort:Vat withail with * which Load Cluisearty mot I wtrt habit of actin ;; . '1 !.,s I certainly' did _-sioi, an 94141it44311141 ret imiliwoda2.ton. I did not lin k it likely that this man o ould ourremter troy 'on o , of his, awl the favitlf is t% as the laq in the world thio would he likely to prod tier II CUt/Upt *lslamises upe:s iti election. I deny that it was likely to have Sara corrupt influruce upon the shoe or reprceentatiol:.- Happily places do exist where, either thringli pro perty or some other liberal cause, i 4 WWI 'clay b u d . h as w ar i n to the [brie without re:antic ' to am corrupt iiitlarnee a kit soever. Those lilies-A Wilitil Illttflpily exist, 10p01 a facility for then vi hit cannot dedicate their thole time to the puitiiie,e of populurity ; item a ho, froin :Menthol t , office, olio, from stiffly, are prevented- from t rata case t,I those mils in %forth others lieveisin op portunity of indulging : they open a rase ity fns suck oleo to mike iheie why Into the bat, who would sweessurily be cxcluded, eta tions acre Al coriductitt upoi popplar psi civics. mid coutiited; its 110 south ii ca, , ti they wool be, to those only who could dedicate their • time o the attainment of local intimater and fuller. The' question then cornet, was it proper to hr ul , - isobar(' a lan son under the eircuuistimeas 1 the situatiou this is, supposing the transaction, i ..teed of existiug only in the iningination, to he eipoieil into execution ? Et en the clime of etrairm re tar, an overt act to worst' Mit e the effrace'ud th e dant is the charge ; and surely I might expect to r rico the benefit of such a pri nc iple. I eOIIISI It t r a duty imposd e upon toe us u mii inister, Its iweept of any defence which might be iiiitiltioua In the public; I tlo refore will al Eqpt. of sure such ; but can it be supposed fur a stiontese, that I intended to iiifluence electioes corroptli by this means :. S:aiiiliba in my situation, as Moist, 7 of the. Croats, i hail a right to exercise that fair influeoce which 114). situation gave time, to sullen , the Government with whom I was contieetcal I had a right to give those who would tripwire that r Government, upon. independent principles, ',eery assistance which my oitimeuni allowed, but nut to make the powers of ti,;it. 'situation iustrunieut:a is ads:seeing any lent% ideal pa rpoves. No eland corruption attudirs to any mind in this eissii; it I hail an inipress:ini teat 1 wits actirg corr.:4,oy er wrong, 1.613 was - pree'i•ely the case. I sl. mild have mottled this ise,e, iitikh• never otitis ex isted, which was merely imirainsi;y, whiCh ~was a pea fret romance, as perfect a one as my pla vine ratils with Mr. 'Reding, to which, if to tiny eii ti,;i• I vould itudernike to prove an alibi, I idaurfat I/411'. considered this case in particular, for it was imoare silite that it could be comealial; for suppose 1 ant C. was returned teParliament.aud it appeared tl:aff bid t o veil his son, be nephew, a writerohip. wa,hld not Ihe transactiotihe instantly exposed ? If I meted 14114 tiil.' "Po" this subject, it was not from any t ur pitnile---it did mat proceed from any dishooest or dishonourable motive, as It evideut front the nature of the case, which Scald oot be kept a secret. W 1 1 respect to the c.eri living utver acted on, 1 diab'ain any defence demo a from that consideration; for it ' the corrupt imention is proved, it makes little ditlitr ence whether it wits executed, or not. flat it is pc/- tilde. in my cominimictitions with Lord Clanearti, before the tsas uccomplished, I might see minion to influence inc to retreat, it was conipetro t to me to withdraw, if I SAW cause for so d 011 1 ,4 UM f I received any intimation wilt respect to Itedino,' s character, I must and would have retracted. I bolo,: . that no one will think use mad enough to reliaquishi my public situation, my public Character isioa all that was deer to me as o man for the pm pose of serving a private friend, or procuring ani iidditiou to the party to which I belooged. E do taut wish to disguise any thing—l do lint wish. to justify any dung upriu principle, which might: be inconsistent with the dignity of Parliament. Having stripped the case of its aggravation s having stated that I was influenced - by no in terested or corrupt motive, that I do not thiuk the individual wouid have bean Ird to surren der up his inincipleA, and above all that -no elec tor was likely to be corrupted by the transac tion. I have only to express my sincere regret that motives of private frierichihip or a wish to have the ussistaiiire of competent persons' in the Cloveru mem, should have led me into the adoption of any cooduct that rendered an inquiry by this House necessary; the evidence is before you upon which . i. ou are to form von' itikaient, and whatever de eissiou you may pronounce, I shall submit to it with deference. Ills Lordship' withdrew on concluding his de fence, and the evidence beet:: eine' ed as read, Lord A. Hamilton proposed the following Regalia tifma :—. Resrocv•rs, lat. '11,:o it +appears to this Home, from the evidence on the Table, that I Aril Viseount Castlereagh to the year loos, he larnin t jaet quitted the care of President of the Board of Controls), and being then s Privy Counsellor, 4941 Scant.. itIV of State, did place at the disposal of the Earl Chnicarty, a Nieather of the said Busied, the nonsiartthtis of a Writer ship to India, for tha parscucr of IL+ ashy procuring the said Earl (lantana a Best in this Nemours:Vs House. id. That 1 . 1 ua. 111 , 611* to * ditUrZfterlletit ~*arse other subtotatinate panes to the transact+ou, that this corrupt Nezotiveuit dul not take effect. 3.1 That Lor.l 1 ',count Gantt-each bus been by the said sonduct guilty of a violation of 1.11 duty, of** rettl.4 of his influence and Authority as Pit siiket.of the Hume of Coo trout, WWI 110.1.1 , Uf re 3 attack upon the purity and Couatitu tion of this Hoot. Lord lit N N IN 18 7 11..111 a :to in who has served the polina• :it a high (Alice for 11::1Ay yews, is c:illen upon to ilef,od hmwclf fri•in charges contained the Itcsuliiiions,. it is iiinaitel of great moment, anti much ticlrb erslion. In the course ut the speech which the Noble Lord made, Ira disa vowed any intention of deter:4H; himself upon principle : I do not intend ti• iictend him upon principle either, and sin sorß the it is not in tily power to do so. Fur his defence I will refer to the proceedings. It apprays, that Mr. Reding. in 1/14 interview with Lord Castltreng!i, told him that he had the means 9f ussistine lion in coinilif, into Parliament. Lord Castler.acti informed Reding, that he did not want *areal but conceiving that be made the otTeq as agent tor a fermi] willing to *Slid the Cimino ent, he :der- •MI .~ --~ 1111 but can litnagine that I.d.Claticarty, the person to •• this epsasthin yields ea none that eta brtinglit thority of Parhatuent. I Mist say, in the outset, in question, notbiug could be farthe ro om , t torn that Noble Lord recommended Mr. 'Reding, before this House. The power, privileges, and that al) far from the charge now made heiog hot. mind than to male it subseivit in to a iny cur ru leace;4l,l the Noble Lord's interest ? be did immunities, attacked to those in of fi ce, must not toured upod'tke evidence which I myself gave be- influence ; and I till appure Ike yuse, tli ow receive it. then there'siust attach to the Noble amen them from censtirr. We inustshow the pub- fore the„Committee, it rather appears to lid ilivensly though the inclisidin.l aaa 'not Haines 1 , I co bird a strong suspicioli-that this Patronage sd iic, that weme inclined to piirsse.with impartial in the teeth ol'it. If thiii transaction, sirlinther etived brut to be a person, perfectly odeq ua disposed of must have been convertible into justice any crime wherever it makes its appearance. right or wrong, could be coupled with k uly to the situation, awl, as tar us e politics warn, Monty in some manner or others I have litiod. I say it is • mockery of justice, to affect to censure tional purpose on' my part to acquire an undue understood him 'to be' connected with. ti tat pay Clad the Noble Lord has said he diidained such persons comparatively inconsiderable, if we are to influence in this Mouse, I should say that no ease with %Lich Lou ClanovartY sail I weft! is ti practi,ess; isut I think such 'a declaration would suffer a Noble Lord, filling the office of Secretary of a more aggravated nature could have come he- habit of aeting. 'CLis I ceitimils• did • • oak", 'have come with a much better ktice if we had of State, (Lord Castlereagh) another Noble Lord, fore you. No man eau with justice impute to are, an additional set of imenda2.ton. f did not tnk not had this evidence laid befgre its. When I see a Member of the Board of Controtil, (Lord from the evidence oa the table, that this was au j ilt . that this man %% fluid surrender any ini„ r IP