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~ t '` `_~ *A grunt to the Duke of Cumberland ; bet not 'withstanding their usual corset:trip-as, he could not 'but think, from the sentiments they contagion', that in that itistarice at least they must have hero gropes otissepresentations. If, however, soy person did in reality bear so malignant a I us cuss poor traced in some of those speeches, it might be intu it taidisfeetient to (ham to know, tlvot they hail 'peen pain to is feeling I. Ile linneuted extremely that auy differences dun exist in the Rot al iiiii ly; lie hid ever exerted himself to promote a goodjase ! teln4-iice between all the members of it, hy ing convinced that, from the highest to the lowest, the ogiermeht in families is the first principle of do torstic.liappiness„—; Hear, hear.) Local flot.r.s No said, that while he sword t o the unionist alit. stmitity granted to the l)uke of Cambridge, he could not approve of the food from wheel) it was to he issue!. lie had much ra ttier see once more in proctire the old comititntionsl Viso& of defraying all the expenses of the !Loyal Patnily out of the Civil List, which would not wily rouble the Crow's to root its moment to the marriage of any members of the Royal Family, without the possibility of any mitred from Parlor mem; but would also save Parliawerit froni the disagreeable necess;ty of refusing any grants. Ae cordiug to the old principle, s certain soot of money was granted to the Crown —not, how. ever, as some bad hoop vied, by way of puree chase of the hereditary foie:isle' of the Crown, Which hail been derived stalely from the votes of Validities* to earls *thermos., Sovereign, hut as • memoir of supportiog the dignity and splen slow of the R..yal Felinity. Fur this purpose he would unhesitatingly venture to assert soot less then n opiliors had beer. granted by Pailtamerst, exclusive of the Druits of the Crown mid of the Adusirolly. Ile could riot grit down without mice agouti adverting to the very strange course of procertlisig that had been retleepteel by the Noble Lord opposite, with respect to dissenter. he hal brought 'town a Mes sage loin the Crown, and gave notary, that he would on the tai xt slay move an Address upon it, stating at the same time the interitio•al of Ministers. Ore the following day, however, the. N. b e bid pro i eme.ll thee im•tpreeeteuee.t o f wh a t but ever h eel . troti , a4,red an nolispensable act of duty towards the Crown, on the part of the House, and stated, that the Ministers hail not reaolved what measures it would 1* proiwr for them to propose. An in quiry then was held in another place; ilitd at length the Noble Lord 'thought proper to latent' the I louse, that lie held census 01 i ii 114.115 himself. but way obliged to adopt others; and' that iphile lee thought u rert iu sum of money aboulisiely iie lievsary, lie should be contented with receiving o n ly half. Oa a former occasion, when the iproviaion for a Lord of the Admiralty was tinder discussion, his Majesty's Alioisters wetted, that if they slid tint obtain that 1,000/. a-year, there was all end of the Government, h.r wilhout it they could not oridertulte to carry on slur public affairs ; but now that they were ,rfu'ed Ntrerail thousands, they were 'atisfied to pocket the io.talt instead order money.-- lie adverted to the iinpolicy of the Royal Marriage Act, and said, that though by its provisions the Crown enjoyed the sole power of consenting to, sir • dissenting from, the marriages of any members of - the Royal Family, yet ulna Parliament most still passess the power of withliol‘liao Welt,. if it . the should think proper. lie thought the House of Commons hardly dealt with, is attributing unge nerous or improper motives to its late decision.— That declaim. might have arisen, as he believed it did arise, from an unwillingness to increase the burdens of the people, by requiring n ttttt ey (tom them they were, God knows, ill able to bear.— lie,ides, he was prepared to sliew that the sums al. trendy granted to the Royal Family veer.- double the amount they had any right to expect at the commencement of the present reign. The Earl of Lev ERPOOL. in rising to make few observations on the speech of the Noble Lord, beg 4 sed leave first to refer to that part of his speech hick bad reference to ale .1 had fallen from the Noble Earl (Lauderdale.) who sat at the table.— The Noble Earl had not dewed the power of Par. Lament to refuse grants to any member of the Royal Family—but had merely stated, that, when once a certain sum proper to be given to any one member of the Royal Family, for etippormig the dignity and splendour of the Crown, had been re solved upon, it was unfair slid capricious to with ifold it from another, without stating opeuly the !pointy!. of the refusal. With respect to his conduct in thus afTeir, he felt it necessary to state, that, what ever might have been his own opinions, he had readily re-igned them on learning the general ferbieg of Parliament—and this change was may such as 11:1111 occasiemally take place its a Constitu tion professing to be formed by King, Lords, and Commune. The deci,' of the tl /Use of Com mons lie kid learned with regret—nut only from a feeling of the injustice that had been done to su llinstrtous ludividuul, but 050 Ott public grounds. \Vali respect to what had fahca from the Noble Lord relative to the sums of tummy granted to the Crown, he very readily allowed that the hereditary revenues of the Crown Lad ti,sweel front successive votes of Parliament ; but when this reveitue was burremlerrd, at the commencement of the present reign. for a certain fixed stint, the Crosses was lrlarrd in a very unfavoura!ile situation. l lad the original revenues been continued to the Crown, be hod 110 hesitation in saving, that, from the improve ment which had sine token place in every brunch of it, the amount now enjoled by the (*.roma would he two unliimi*, nl , teerl of one. Tile subsequent steamed* for proviloos oil the marriages of the dif fereolt members of the Royal Family, arose from this regulatiou at the commencerueut of this reign, and wets to be expected froas the large family of his ,Majesty. As there was no objection to the prin ciple LI the I.e should mat detain the House by arty further observations. The Bill was then read the third time, and pass ed ; us was also the Bill for securing a dower to leer Royal Highness the Duchess of Climbs:Omni. A Message was then sent to the !louse of Com moos, by two of the Judges, informing the House of their Lordship.' coucurrenee in the two Bills. THE LOAN. The Lass Bill na) lead the third time, ai.d pass J. The Gaol (7linpluin Bill, and the Great Seal Perast.., Bill, went it verully through Cuum:iltevs, sal Use House adjourned, • siousr. OF COMMONS, TIII7II tikAr, MAY 7. Mr. VA twe'itrearrited it7l 7 etitipn (vim the City of Oit• font,ra• IPer nu ntteratien In the 'lei/kers and Pedlars Act.— 4ro I F the table. Mr. LeiglIART prevented a Petition front the Attorney% of Windsor, Wallingford. and Maiilrithead, praying for an alters ' 1.1 tie laws relative to Cutiveynneers.—Laid on the table. Mr 11.oestssaae mowed Gir an *Milani of the aniati?f of bureis of .trunk herr brewed withal' the limits of the head Eites..e Oilier in London, for the year 4.1.di tic the bth of July, 1817,distingeishing the quantity brewed by cads individual. —fb..1....1 HOLYHEAD ROAD. Pir H. PARIIRLL rum, for the porpme of moving for leave to brig its a Hull to vest the eare of the roads, from Shrews. bury in Bangor Ferry. in the hands of new Ibmmissitme►s. Thus dots drvolrrd On loom, in anmegnencr of the situation he held as Clutinnan of the Csrmasitiee, to whom the cosisi. deratiou of the male of the rust% to 11.4yhead was referred. —Leave was given to bring in the Rill. The Liverpool Gm-Light Bill was read fin third time mid passed. GLASS MANUFACTURERS. Mr. I.crttiaGrolt noised the secusid reading of the Glass 114nsfsetorers' Sur M. W Rmt.e• did not mean to oppose the errand reeding of the 1611--bat, as e part of it threw a considerable ones 0111 the manufartnrer, he trusted the Hon. Gentlest*, would not press it to a Committee unlit after the holidays. Mr. IMP/11/110TO% CUollented I. the proposillon of the Mots. Rommel The Bill was then read a second time—and ordered to be tommitted nu Wednesday next. SUGAR BOUNTIES. Mr Rancoiss bruurbi sop the Report of the Committee en the Sups liountirs BsII, which was agrred.oo--•ed a Bill osdrreil 10 be brought is cooftwnsably therrwisb. FORGERIES ON TH6 RANK OP ENGLAND. Mr. CAIXISINGI presented • Petition from a unmher of respectable persons in Liverpool, complaining of the moon iity of Forced Rank of England Notes in ...in-Motion throughout the comity of Lancaster—and praying that some mode should be adopted to repress the evil. The Right Hon. Gentleman observed, that the iithabilants of the comity of Lancaster were more deeply iidelested tee having this evil corrected than utmost any other set of p nmns—for it was well known that a great part of the small uutea now in de collation there were Cu General GAMMON, observed, that the evil of Forged notes hail increased to Pooch an alarming extent, that Meet ings bad taken place in the county of Lancaster, at which it was determined to create private bank., She genuine ness of Slut note, of whirls they have an opportu nity of pr.ivissK At present, it was impossible to detect the Rorerie■ of Bank of England notes A great part of the mu". in cisenbit in the comity of Lancaster, were those of the years HIM acid 1816, w►ieb were so mutilated, that Owy wise quite moat For the paipose to which they wrie applied. The people of the county of Lancaster had expected that some mode would have been devised to re move an evil of such snalnitede. Hitherto they bad bens certninly, if the Leyisuaterr found it iiecesssey to miirict she Rank from resuming cash payments, they on;:lit to hit spoil 'tome exprdiro i.e prevent the losses which, nod, r the existing syident, iudirlduals were subject ed to. Mr .1 Satitn. in allusion to what had fallen from an Biro. Mrmin r un a tinnier rvenina, relative to the manner is which the Moak Solicitors tamed on prosecutions fur forgery. defended those Gentlemen from the in.inoation that had barn levelled at them. He brhee...l no palomino.' was ever ismleriaken till it was ►auctiuurd by a Committee of Dori-chary. Mr. !11,01.4tvat defended the conduct of the Bonk of Dil lowd lie, and the other Direetora, would be very glad, if preventotl hanks were nested in 14nettater. lu answer to 1.1141 had fallen futon the Mow. neneral, hr "'Wird to stale, that, of motes of the Jute of l$ stud 1810 were ill etreula. lion w the eutioly of Leue.soer, the Raub was Ind to blame, Once Ito y had lout siure ofi'vred to pay mall note. of those dates is. exalt. The Pehtaon wag three read, and orde►ed to lie on the lable. Mr. rVIININri, in moving that the Petition hr printed, otrainved, that where the evil had extended so widely. it was evident that Your parassna, ono had three or four small es, would lie deterred from sentlint 11am up to the 11411 k of eugland, antra they ran so great • chance of having them derlirrd to he forgeries. The Petition We. then °whined to hr rioted. TIRE DOCTRINE OF 'TRANSUBSTANTIATION. General THORNTON MSC to move fur leave to being in • Bill for " the repeal of the Acts of the 25th and SO,h Charles 11. requiring at declaration against Trunsubstantiotirm, and assairlitig the wor ship of the Church of Rome to be idolatrous."— He beirged to apologise for having delayed the in troduction of this measure in long—but it was oc casioned by the absence of a number f the Irish Slrinbers. Ile had also understood that the Ca tholic Question would have been brought on its the present Session, end he feared that his motion would have interfered with that question. lie had recently, however, learned that it would not be brought forward, and, therefore, he saw no necessity for postponing this measure ally longer. He was sorry to Mind that his notice had been misunder stood. It was supposed that lie tneatit to precipi tate the Catholic Question. But he never hall such an idea, Ile could not have had the presumption to take that important subject out of the hoods of the eldest meal on the country, by whom it had been so powerfully advoceted. The present ques tion wits inched rather at Piotestant than • Catholic one. The Goo. General their reed the declaration, in which a disbelief of the duct flue of traissubstau tiatiou is comprtsed—and contended, that the Le gislature. had Ito right to ask any man to state his opinion on 'doctrinal points of this kind, which, did not intei lire with the safety of the State. This de claration was introduced for the purpose of preserves Mg the Proteitarat faith, in the time of Charles 11. who was I elf, at least in heart, a Rowan Ca. thohe, and btu immediate t.lteeelflOr was the avowed advocate of that religion. The Protestant frith was now, however, perfectly established—and, there fore, there was gm necessity fur this unprofitable and illiberal declaration. Ile could couceive no possible opposition to this measure, especially as he dial not interfere with the oaths of supremacy, abjuration, Hod fidelity. It was a mistake to sop pose that all individuals who believed ill transubs staiitiation—w Ito took the words of our Saviour in their literal sense—must therefore be Roman Ca tholics. The contrary was the fact. lo the Greek Church, for instance, which differed essentially from the 11oinan Catholic, this doctrine was re ceived. Now, if an individual took the oath of Supremacy, it wins extremely hard float he should be disqualified from civil rights, because be believed in transubstautiation. The Ison. General then shortly adverted to the origin of the declaration— and expressed a hope that the Noble Lord (Castle. reagli) and the Right lion. Gentleman (Air. feel) whose conduct in discouraging Oretige Associations to Ireland, by which that country wits rendered much greater than it usually was, iiad been so toe. ritotious—would give their support to this niee e.ure, which would be received as a great boon lop the Roman Catholics. The thanks of the I:oinaii Catholics of Claw, Monaghan, and of a a ‘s s-US great Ludy wha ownitle.l at an A,47„tegate M.et ing, it, lialalisb b liad beet , given fn liim — . IA laugh) —fur his exactions in th is subject, wino, .hewed the feelings of the Room Catholics with respect to the declaration. It was doubtful whether he should have a scat it, the esbauing Parliament —lnn, while he was it Member of the Legislature, he would en deavour, as much as passable, to study the welfare of his fellow-subjects, whatever their luith might be. Ile then moved for leave t o brin g in the Lord CASTLES Mr. W. SMITH SegAC:liisiltiali:::erellileolll:l4:7l.. that ibis motion could not be entertained, unless it came sanctioned by the resolution of a Co 11111 l Mee of the whole [louse. The measure which they were called on to repeal was evidently of a political, not of a religious nature. He certainly should not enter into any argument on the doctrinal imilitv con nected with it ; for, lie conceived, that the Hon. General had introduced an embarrassing qiiestion, which could not be productive of ally practical good whatever. It was, in fact, prematurely in troducing • question of great moment—for the Catholic claims would be incidentally introduced— contrary, perhaps, to the wishes of those who were most inConately connected with it. Ile hoped, therefore, the I honourable Getters! would not tltisik he behaved disrespectfully to him if he moved " The previous question. " Mr. W. SMITH was moat anxious that this oath sl Id be erased from the statute book, of it tended to excite a 'mist unf moiled prejudice in the minds of many persons against the Itotnati Ca. Ile could ankh, for the purpose of render ing Homan Catholics and Protestants more united, that the Legi.lature would remove oaths of this de scripition, which created dissatisfaction, without producing any benefit. The previous Illi• VIM] Was then put and carried. The motion of course. Incl. stiERIITS OF COUNTIES. _ _ Mr. W. WYNN wild, hr w4s happy to find that the Sheriffs of certain enwntie.. whim' he hid given notice of his intention of ridlinig to the liar, had complied with the order of the House. Ile should, therefore, give up ki. notice. CROWN LANDS. Mr. flusittssou rose fur the purpose of moving for leave to bring in a series of three Bills, fur the better regulation, in certniu respects, of particular portions of Crown Lands, therein names!. The great object of those Kills was, to encourage the growth of timber, tit foe itievid purposes.' 'I his oti ject, it could slot he denied, wie. one or primal) , unportiince, and well ilasi.rved the most s.riiiits considewtion of the Legislature. Tlw Right Hon. Grotleman that ))))) " for leave to firing in a Bill to west certain parte of Brecknock Furst in the Crown." Mr. BROUGHAm said, that particular care should be talc• ii, by the enactment of special statutes, to give proper powers to those connected with the de purime.it user which the Right Hon. Gentleman presided, to enable them, in the sale of property be longing to the Crown, to procure the best price fur it. The Crown was in posses-ion of malty hortoers, and it was material, that, when they were disposed of, it should be done on terms as beneficial us piHsi lole to the Crown. He could only judge on this subject by a reference to the Reports of the Com missioners which were laid on the table of the House—and he there yew many items which called for explanation. They had occurred during the time the Hight Hun. Gent!emotes predecessor was in office—and some of them were of such a nature as could not, he believed, be satisfactorily explain ed. A great diversity appeared in the treatment of differelit individuals whip purchased Crown lands. Some were charged twenty, twenty-five, or thirty yeasts purchase—while others were asked no more than ten. A Noble Lord, one of his Majesty's Ministers, hod actually received for 9,4001. a grant of M u tt worth 5001. per annum— while another person. \lr. Corbett, bought a piece of mashy land, i a Merioneth.hire. for which he paid no leas than eighty years purchase. was the only instance, in which the property to be sold. had b-en fairly put up to public auction. The consequence of this devattinit front the rule of office was, that eighty years purchase, instead of ti.n, twei.t, twenty-five, sir flinty, was paid. He begged to call the attention of the House to an other case. Sir Walter Stirling had purchased one of these hunomrs, which. instead of producing, him tiny thing. cost him Id. 10s. it-year—for this he had paid 3,0001. Now, he asked, why that Hou. Baronet should be called on to pay such a soul for this honour, when the Noble Lord to whom lie had al I uded, dud another person, who purchased valuable Crown lands at twenty or twenty-five years pur chase, did not pay one silver 'minty for the honours attached to their lands ? By the returns before the House, it appeared that the Earl of Lansdale had purchased the three-fourth part of the Lord ship and Barony of fender, for 30 years purchase, or 14,0001.—but did not give one farthing for the honours. This bargain was not. any Inure dont the others, a 'subject of open competition. No person had an offer hut the Earl of Lonsdale. To him it was a most valuable possession, as it lay OA the neighbourhood of his property. It was sold to him, on the oath of two surveyors, that it was worth wily 14,0001. for that. sum. Bat those who were in the habit of hearing the evidence of surveyors on compensation causes, moat see, that their statements were not always the most correct. This estate, to which he alluded, had been disposed of to a party, nearly thirty years ago. for 14.0001. for which lie had heard a iieighbouring gentlemen say, that lie would have given three times the sum, Ville estate had been exposed to public auction or open isle. He had seen enough' of the (liaise quentes of this mode of di-posing of the public property by private biddings and secret contract, to form this conclusion on the subject—that there was Oa way so safe, so likely to peseta colturton, or the sacrifice of this species of property, through motives of private preference, as to set all the shires or allotments of the property up at public auction, or at least in such a public manner, as that a competition might he excited amongst thee various persons disposed to become purchasers. Mr. Huseisson agreed with the Hon. and Learn ed Member in the two general principles which he had laid down, respecting, first, the mode of selling Crown lands or rights; and, secondly, reap ecniig she sort of properit which it would become the Commissioners of Crown Lodi to offer for sale. But in the application of these general principles, :certairely the Lammed (:.in bed nut hesita te rto step out of his way, wilt a sieve to insinuate that during a pr: ins' precedent • to unit when •he (Hr. Huskisson) filled the offiki of Commissioner of %Vends and Forests, some practices had been dis covered which reflected highly on the motives and character of his predecessors in office. 11'itle their • duct he had frothing further to do than to state his general conviction, that nn sorb motives could be fairly imputed to them ; and it had been admitted, that during his continuance its that situation, no steepicion had ever been entertained that he had been accessary to any such negligence or mis conduct. Oie the contrary, lie had always, with • view to procure the best price for such pro perty, whets about to be disposed of, es well as with u view to the maintenance of his own cha racter as an accredited and confidential officer, ad. vises' it should he disposed of by public uuction. It had been said there were *rectal hundred closest° which a successful reference might be made to prove the facts stated. Now the truth was, that almost oil of these were cases of mere fee-farm gents of a very few ahihboss upon each, of sin value even to itedivistuale, awl become harshly worth the expense of collecting. Massy of these, it was true, bad Loren disposed of to the old occupaide, at thirty years purchase ; and be mist think, as well as ino4 others, that Ora were exceedingly oell sold at that price.—( Icor. j—ln far the greater number of Weimer* eio purchasers could be found even at that price, and they remained a charge up the State to iii hour. These fee-farm rents would, it was therefore clear, be very improperly selected as property likely to sell well by auction. Ile was happy that he hail not been the eisbiart of charge as to any malailanimetration since lie came into the office ; yet he thought it would have been a much snore advie.,ble, and certainly much store candid mode of proceeding, if, instead of generel insinua tion of very improper conduct in the department, Ithe 1t0,,. and Learned Gentleman hurl selected carefully some cases, which might exhiliit a fouieda tion for a charge of so grievous Is suture. IVith re gaol to the only specific case mentioned, the Kendal honour, it was a mere dry, unproductive honour; and notwithstanding the character of a Cabinet Minister would, as had beet, stated, 1w likely to be involved in the objectionable mode of proceeding had recourse to in this iiestatece, the only ',reference which had been given to the Noble Lord then in possession was such as wools' liaturalle be given to a person who bad been a long tune it, possesriou of the property. This certainly eumetittited u claim to some just preference, and even in such cases it was the ['metier it, the office to•take sub, co.isideration every honour or advantage the property bud upon it when valued, or about to be disposed of. It was usual iu this case, as in all others, for the unsuccessful posters to ray, that they would have given more for the properly than it was sold at, load they had ass opportunity of do-. ing so. He was cletrly convinced that the 'species of property which should be disposed of, was that which was in its nature unproductive to the public, und attended with a more thou equi valtsit..expense. by which meat's the public would be benefited, and the Commissioners enabled to lay the money thus procured out its advantageous purchases of property, suitable few reerieig such timber as was lodealiens:Ade for the navy of this country. Ile buret! enough had been said by him to exonerate the departmesit in which he had the honour to act, from the effect of the general impu tations with which it had been the object of the Hun. and Learned Member to asperse the conduct generally of the Commissioners ; and hoped, that should he feel disposed to touch upoir this subject, he would endeavour first its provide himself with a few cases nut of the several hundreds he lead allud ed ta, which might substantively prove the :thoses with which it was his object to charge that part of the administration of the public Sir JAM'S GRAHAM felt himself called upon to state whet lie knew relative to the barony or honour or Kendal. Tins holiour had been in the tamiiv of Earl Lonedale for more than 100 years; and though originally held for three lives, at the time of the pur chase it was held only for one reinueniug life, and consisted of trifling rents of %Isl. or 3d. per ant,. and which were very difficult's& collection. The har pies was not prowler-el even by the Noble Lord, but by the Guyer 1111 l reit Commissioners, and a valuetion took place at an enormous rate, which rioted in the Nuhle Lord's purchasing that sit 40 years purchase, or 14,000/., which never could produce to Government 300/. a-year--(hcar)—a property for which he was satisfied no man in that House would give one-half as much. There were some manorial rights attached thereto, but even including these, he was tairtisiu, and lie thought himself no very bad judge of property either, that he had given double the fair value of it, us it was well known dry rents might every day be purchased at twenty, or less than twenty years porchane ; and yet the Noble Lord had concluded this disadvantageous, or, us lead beets said, most advantageous bargain, uuder the additional disadvantage of the property being at that very time only in reversion, and subject to Ins rema s 11l il eg life interest thereon.—( /ear.) Mr. Ilsounwsm, in explaseatiou, said he had nothing to du with the of 'ons of this person or that, whether the property was, as had been stated, worth one half or only one third of what had been obtained for it. But lie wished to know why the Commissioners had not done that which the Noble Lord had since done ? He had enfranchised the oc cupants at a certain rite each, pocketed the money thus obtained, and still reserved the honours at tached. Why did reot the Commissioners pursue a similar course, and thus secure the advantages re sulting thereon to the country, instead of throwing them lido the lap of any favoured individual ? Sir J. GRAHAM could not hear such a statement made, without endeavouring to counteract its ef fect. He could assure the House, that the Noble Lord had never yet received a thousand pounds, i perhaps lent above five hundred pounds, for en freinchisentents on the property. Could this paltry sirpeluui return iibliaese ls considered eflosiric_seo povrrelee ryi any appropriate l a ms Ili: the obvious n v o o i f o o u n r s a l o t n w o e e y a r l e l t hat er fectly without foundation ?—(llear, hear.) Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. Leave was also obtained to bring in a Bill for granting to the Crows, in severalty certain lamb , in the Forest of Sherwood ; and a like Bill with re spect to a certain portion of the Forest of Henault. iii:na:tdidvpharietclacite or advantageous '. 7- WWW:F"' 7I 1 .. )\ • `-\ N4 k %.\\ A Mesmige from the I.orda infoimed the Douse their Lordships had azreed to the Duchess of Cum. het-Ivies Dower Bill, and the Duke of (7ain bridge's Annuity Bill, with Dower to the Princes of Fiesse in case of survivorship, without amend ment. The Message was borne by two of the J udges. Another Message announced their assent to the Exchequer Bill. Bill, the Oxford Gas Light, and other private Rills. . _ Mr. Baotiotiass informed the House that he should defer making the statement he intended to make on the part of the Committee upon the Edo eatiou of the Poor until to-morrow evening, owing to the press of matter which was before that Com mittee, nearly six thou.Noid returns, representa tions, or letters having been addressed to them tin the subject before them, and which it had been impossible yet to reduce to a regular form, from which any general information might lie derived. lie hoped it would nut prevent the 801 l being al. lowed to go, pro forma, through its present stage, and have the blanks filled up. Oti the suggestion of Mr. BATHURST and the SEALER, the proposition was, as we understood, witlid raw') us irregular. Mr. BENNETt gave notice that he should, on Thursday next, draw the attention of the lionse, by a specific motion respecting the cases of three persons named libeller, of ‘Varrington ; mad Sewed, of Manchester, who lied petitioned the House. HOWTii, Oft DUBLIN HARBOUR. Mr. l'Es:t. obtained leave to bring in a till for improving the accommodation for shipping in the !Isamu 's' mu the north side of Ilowth.—ltead a first i 11l e, and ordered to be printed, and read a second time on Wednesday next. On the motion of Sir FRANCIS BURDETT, copies of the Correspondence between Mr. Monism', ventor of the life preserver, cud the Ordnance Office, were laid on the table. \ ALIGNS. Mr. LAMBTON rose to make g motion for the production of certain State papers, which lie hid yesterday, at the suggestion of the Noble Lord (Castlereagh), consented to put riff until this even ing. The object hr had in tnoVing for these !tape's was to enable the House to investigate whether his Majesty's Government had lent its assistance to foreign State in givii g efficacy to the Decrees of that State, with respect to persons sent nut of that country by the order of such foreign Government. The Alien Bill, us he could learn from the admis sion of the Noble Lord on if former night, had for one of its objects.the assistance of foreign Poweis in enforcing its Decrees.—/!Jere Lord Castlereagh expressed some dissent.j—The Noble Lord might shake tits head, but he certrinly so understood hint. Hut the subsequent seateniviet of the Noble Lord went so far as to that the provisions o f thi s Ball were merely to attain British olijrels. Now, this usearance, lie ceofo-serli lie could by .119 means reconcile with the uilliti,sion of the hale Lord to %%Inch lie had before alluded. Ile .proposed, by the production of Iliese papers, to come at the title state of the intetieson of his Majts ty's Goveroiorot in thus respect ; and in order to convenience the Noble Lord, lie should, if it were considered expedient to conceal the mimes of per son. NllO might lie the subject of these commtiiii cations, consent to the copies or extracts being made out in blank, us was not unfiequerit in such cases. He concluded with moving—. " Fur Copies or Fair:lets of all Curve , ' tenet which had taken place Mute the Qtbli of November, 1515, between the Secretaries of Slate awl our ditierent Nlinistera ■t foreign Couris, with the Principals of Gotersimeuts abroad, Maths to the treatment of Aliens. " Also, Copies! or Extracts of all Currespondenre between the Secretary of State and the Ambassador of the Nether- Imeek, relative to passports tpxtited to persona not heist; natives of the United Kirigeluni, or the 'Sethi, lands." Lord CASTLEREAGH confessed lie could see no thing in the motion of the Honourable Member but au attempt to induce the House to discuss the principle of the Alien Bill in a premature war, before the Bill itself was regularly debated. lie would in this case only ask the Hon. Member to skew any instance wherein the Ministry had abused the powers with which they had Loreto intrusted by similar acts, or show that in ally one instance the provisions of the Alien 13ill had been enforced with respect to any individnals, in compliance with the wishes of a foreign Government. lie should, it the absence of all attempts to prove the existence of any such evil arising out of the powers thus con fided to his Majesty's blioisters, resist the produc tion of the correspondence altogether, as involving tlw publication of the communication of foreign Governments with the Government of this conic try. This was a practice altogether minsual.— He had no objection to state, as a principle m which the Government of the country loud acted hitherto, respecting parties proscribed, or persons disaffected to their own Goverinuent, that it was intended to permit such persons to collie over and reside here, provided that they did nut employ themselves, or their abilities, in attempts to &mut b the public tranquillity, or assi4 the stews of any exterior power, in opposition to the interests of this country. Sir F. RURDETT objected io strong terms to the exercise of suds extraordinary and lIIIVOIIeIIIIIIOI/iti powers in the Executive Government. The prin ciple was as abhorrent as the practice. It was coy. indeed, to say, there was no opportunity of com plaint, inasmuch as Ministers had not abused the power. how collid it he ascertained that Loglisli interests had alone been concerned, until the 11, formation required were laid before the House, which would then be in a *tate to di tertnine for it self? Was it just to refuse to the House e•en Ilia numes of those whom Government had not liesitatid to banish from the country ? That the practice was liable to abuse, he could prove its several instarce-• lie remembered a case, where time foreign inti chants set out on their journey to claim certain deLt• due to them, who, upon their passage through t; e Netherlands, had been arrested on suspicion of too rg sworn to some assassination plot or other, and wile there detained for a considerable period of time, end at length were discovered to have beets the victims of tuisrepreseutatiou to the Government of the Netberlatids. He alluded also to the case of one Jobton, who owed his escape from being sent oat of the country under the Alien Act. through similar misrepresentation, to his fortunately Intviiig known au official person named Chinnery. Upon the slici%- ing of the Noble Lott', he thought no case had V