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!! 1 1........1: ) I'cteel hy the Lord Lieutenant, the Lord Chen. e-• :or shames acted on his jadgment and view of toe 6!3W. It went on to say, that the Noble writer re-illected something having been once said to him otorit . a want of Magistrates for the county of Nor , Ter:k—tleit it ivies posaible Mr. Coke might hays swished to him to appoint certain persons to fill that aitoation, and that lie might have done so without Lord Suffield. Li a postscript it was added, that Lord Eldon hinting been informed that Mr. Coke hod stated his having had a personal in. terview with hi an on the subject, he could not doubt the accuracy of that Gentleman's memory, suet that the fact was. ao, though it had escaped Ins • recollection. • 11r. Cox g said he, hart ! the list or names Nipootted at . his rre!si i to the Peace, to Loot Sgrield's clerk. Lear vdealier he had delivered them to t i,ord Suffiehl he could notany. %Viten lie came lis„towa in the goring of else year after the courteous rer,,osal h' had experiences' from Lord Suffield, he 'wned to the Lord Cloweellor on the subject, and ova mooted a itersoonl interview, in a r where 14; never was before or since.--.(d laugh.)—After labiting what he already lead iu the house his Lord cloy observed, diet lie was sure he would not re commend any persons lint capable of filling the situation. %lltetlier this was mentioned to Lord Suffield or not he did not knots, but very soon after till the individuals whom lie had recommended were actually pot into the commission except one, who was a Member of this House, of great respect oleility, and of an ancient family, but whom, not erring him in his place, lie could not mention. He thought that the Noble Earl was not borne out by farts in what he had said of his impartiality, and he thonglit that there were persons in the commission eel the peace in Norfolk who outlet not to be so, and that others had been excluded, for no other reason. but that they were his (Mr. Coke's) friends. This was an influence which Lords-Lieutenants und Magistrates generally possessed at present, and is similar influence would he greatly increased by the passing of the Bill before the House. A most respectable meetin g indeed, had been held in the county of Norfolk , and he felt greatly obliged to the Sherif', for the honourable manner in which he had acted, both previous to and at that meeting. :Cut after the pegging of the Bill, was it likely they wool(' have any more meetings of that description ? —(Near.)—He really believed that the Govern -cent itself had been concerned in the proceedings it the Magistrates at Manchester, from the obstinacy teat which they opposed all inquiry into them. He had now eaiel nil that lee considered to be necessary. 1 le repeated that lie bud perfect recollection of having H wet-Ilona' interview with Lord Eldon on the sub pet referred to in the letter, and he supposed th it VI , one wool(' now venture to say lie had not.— (/.;:ore. beerr.)—lf he should meet hes Lordship he e. ,s contailesd he could tiring back the CIITUITI• S'inCe a it to his recollection.—(Neer.) SPr..INER said, that before the suhj-ct was tlismi.sed lee wished to call the alarmism of the Hoare to the extreme irregularity of this converse . lion, end to remind them of the dangerous cause 'queseces to which such violations of their forms were likely to lead. Perhaps it was Ina duty to hare stopped the Honourable Member in the oitiret, but he was not enure ut first that the irre gularity we tilel have been carried to the extent it list' been ; asset after hr had gone into the hornet! 11 enclitic.), lie thought it would have been he mat to the Hoes. Member on the other side of the noose to interrupt the observations which he enioto think proper to make to the House. But he eta, persuaded that the House would be of opinion that the conversation had gone far enough.— Hear.)—The practice of the 'louse had been al ready, in this instance, more relaxed than he had ever known it to 1w before. if it was too much drat they should adhere to the letter of their regu lations. the only mode in which they would not be relllegetlier lost tight of was by keeping their spirit tonstantly iu view. —( Hear.) • PENRYN. Sir C. ile usu. ro*r to make his promised motion reopectiog the Borough of Peuryii. He felt it his im. pertitive duty•again to bring the subject under the cousideration of Parliament ; lie trusted that Hon. Members would torn their intention to his Bill of lost Ittentiow, that he might be enabled to carry it tfirritigh aft its stages. Alterations had been sug gested to Lien in the provisions of it, but he had Pot wen any reason fur adopting them. There had toren several instances iii which the elective franchise hail been extended, and boroughs thrown open ; and it was his firm conviction that that had t.eeei intended with great good, and he believed erlest these borough. heed since returned Gentlemen rd property and character to represent them. This • ili l l bad been in the hands of all the Members last ' omit:ter. need therefore he thought it unnecessary to pay any thing more lit present. The Hon. Baronet then moved for leave to bring in a bill to remedy tire opt practices in the borough of Penryn. Sir C. HAWKINS spoke (as we understood), in noinomion to the motion, but was quite inaudible Ili the winery. Ms. Denison said that he had last Session tap en' the liberty of suggesting that the right err roan, by the Borough of Penryn should be transfer evil to one of the large unrepresented towns; and Ise. was convinced that had his suggestion been adopted, and the right bestowed on Birmingham or Manchester, or some other of the manufacturing towns which contained a large population, but sent 1.9 Menthes. lion the House, the melancholy accur st-ulcer which had since taken place would not have nurtured. The Noble Lord had mistaken the true way to !racily and conciliate the people. He would 84.1 m him to bring into practice the old adage— Re to their feels, a lime mina, . tie to their virtues very kind, Awl place our psdluek oil their naiad." COTTON FACIVRI ES. . Sir ft tinEttT PEILL. after a'few remarks, explains twv of the object of his amine, moved for leave to tiring in a Bill to emend the Cotton Factory . 11e gielation Act of last Session. Lord A. Haisturox supported the Bill. hlr. • PHILLIPS said lee considered it extremely • dangerous to legialote.upona aubject like the Kee woo ; he thought so when the Bill was origiiially loonglit in ; and the present implication 10111,0 Shit lee was right: It slow appeared, that. after a ~..oey•Cort- trial. it was isecessary.to amend the Bill. .s ; • Ahoy were called upon now to give o legislative ;,satettiuti to as &graceful a pructice as wet ever introtlnced into manufactoriesthe practice cf working at night. Mr. Ilaisuonase said that he did not see the Bill in the light of hie Hun. Fitend. The Bill, like many other legislative , measures of an important nature and. much detail, contained an omission, and it was now meant to supply that omission.— He did not think that on argument against the principle of the Bill. Mr. FIN LAY said. that it was impossible to legis late on such a subject without much danger and in couvenience. The Bill, if examined, would be found .full of omissions, and he thought that the shortest .and the best way would be to repeal the Bill alto gether. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. 1,001 Alt LTON presented a Petition from certain individuals of the bormiali of Sligo, complaining that they were deprived of certain rights appertain ing to that borough, mei praying fur redress. The Noble Lord said. that 'hough lie presented the Pe tition, it was his belief that the course the Peti tioners should pursue was, by appealing in a Court of Law.—The P e titi on a ..s Olen brought up. SEDITIOUS MEETINGS BILL. Lord CASTLEREAGH miived the Order of the Day for the House to resolve itself lidos Committee on the S.ditions Meetitigs Bill. Mr. Hurcittssost said, that before the House went into a Cointnittea, he would, with the leave of the House, make a few observations. In the first ;dare, then, he would again express his astonish ment and surprise sit the intention of the Noble Lord to extend the provisions of the Bill to Ira. land. He did not menu to look on this subject in • narrow point of view. He could assure lion. Gentlemen, Members for England and Scotland, that On rue more heartily entered into their Cretins than himself—that no one would be more anxious to assist them in protecting the well-disposed and the loyal, if they wanted protection. Having un fortunately witnessed disturbances in his own coun try—having seem how far the zeal and the fears of men carried them—he was willing to make every allowance for Gentlemen on this occasion. But measures of this kind were measures of pains and penalties, much more likely to violate the constitu tion, than to put down the disaffected. Differing as he did from Gentlemen whit think those Bills necessary, he was yet willing that every protection should be given to the public peace, and even with his purse lie was willing to assist —but the assist ance he would render v (odd be very different from the support of illen.eire% calculated to overturn the Constilitien of England. Ile rose in that House to say a few words in favour of that part of the empire from whence he came, and of which he ever felt proud. Ile was not suffi ciently accurate to recollect the precise words that f e ll a f ew n i g hts two front the Noble Lord, but he recollected, the (louse recollected the matter of that speech. He would remind the Noble Lord of the description he "wave of the present state of Ire land—he described that country as in a state of peace, of tranquillity, and prosperity ; he even went further—he seemed to have taken credit to himself for the present tranquillity of that country, and he contrasted her situation with other parts of the empire. From the opening speech of the Noble Lord then there was no reason even to conjecture that these Bills of pains and penalties were to he extended to Ireland ; no one could suppose that her loyalty, her tranquillity, her patience un der sufferings, were to be rewarded by • fresh aggression on her liberties. 'Prue, the Noble Lord had stated that the Bills were to extend to parts of England net disturbed, but froiu no part of his speech could it be conjectural that it was his in tention, or that it was at all necessary to extend the provisions of those obnoxious Bills to Ireland. I f the Noble Lord had fairly stated such to be lois intention, he would have been ready to enter the lists with him, and to convince him ' if his mind be at all open to conviction, that use Bill was not ut all necessary for Ireland ; that it was towelled for —that it was unwise, as well as unjust. lie would ask the Noble Lord to recollect the days of the Irish Parliament—the days of her glory and of her disgrace—yet even in the most dis graceful and degenerate state of that Parlia ment, would the Noble Lord, at the very mo ment that he boasted of the tranquillity and pros perity of the country, would he stare to go to the Irish Parliament sod say, you have been tranquil, you have been prosperous, and I now_ conic down to propose for you a system of pains, of penalties, and of degradation- -1 propose to disarm your peo ple, to invade the liberty of the press, and to pre• vent the meetings of the people—l come down to prepare Gagging Bills and measures which innovate on your constitution. Would the Noble Lord ven ture to make such a proposal toga Irish Parliament ? would an Irish Parliament, lost mid degraded us it might be, endure so great nil outrage? He would ask the Noble Lord, then, did lie Incase to dissolve the Union—did he mean to disgust the Irish people. more than they are, with tlust odious measure ? The Noble Lord had done enough to disgust that country suice the Union. He had not, indeed, given any specific pledge—he was too cautious to do that; but he had done enough to skew that it was not intended to observe the spirit of the Act of Union. He put it to the Noble Lord, did he mean to outrage, more than they have been, the feelings of that oppressed and insulted people ? %Vas it because some parts of the manu facturing districts of Eugland %sere discontesited. that therefore Irelatid—inuffensive and peaceable as she was acknowledged to be by the Noble Lord, fur which she received the praise of the Noble Lord—was to be visited with • Bill of fresh pains anti penalties? Ireland, after suffering for ages under the bad, the ungenerous policy of England—lreland, whose op pieasions words could not well describe. yet proved .superior to her misfortunes, and 'hewed a rare and excellent example of good conduct. Why would nut the Noble Lord allow her to remain in this state of peace and repose? Did he meau to drive the peo ple into rebellion ? He might rest assured, that No umlaute would be more mortifying to Ireland than the extension of tilts Bill. The Bill went to prevent public meetings. unless under certain eauctions. It went then to prevent Catholic meet ings—turelities which had been ever invoked by order and decorum ; yet, under the provisions of this Bill, the Catholics of Dublin, and in other cities, would not he Amer.' to asstusble in their accustoustal nieetisigr. without the permission of the Aldermen, ale Sheriffs, or the Lord 11o3or --min, generally speaking. al hig,:,:(J imocipte•; they would be theu driven to parish ineerisig., or not to meet at all ; a nd thus would th it leeuuug of disgust which suffering sod injustice most ever create, ba greatly ancreaseil by a wairtriii tool io suiting prohibition. He really did tort believe that the Noble Lord, when hr mode his tior. , ing aperch, intended to extend the Bill Ireland ; if he thought so, the .r.ortls hr would w i ttily to such conduct would not he consistent welt the tierorttot dignity of that House. Indeed it WM. NO, OW Sallie Irish Members voted with the Noble Lord under the belief that the Bill way not to apply to !related. He could say m ore : that imiutriett were made by an individual whether the prowl-ions of the null were intended to he extended to Irelatiti, and he was informed that they were not. Ile be lieved it was code an after-thotight, to meet the objections of those who might ask why this aho. minable measure should be applied to England. to Wales, anti Scott and, and not to Irel.intl, The Noble Lind seemed to havehaves seemd sown on the subject. and :ie now intended to put this Bill demo the throats of the Irish. The Bill was clearly not nece.ssry by Lis 'two statemeirr. yet would lie now verdure to torn round to the Irish Washers, and Pay, you must consent to it. The Noble Lord had said a great deal about the prosperity of Ire laud. :1 was a description to which lie could ind bear testimousy ; there was no put of the world white the peat:nary endured greater misery and friss tress-41)e trade and niaiiiila , tiarts of the county were so low, that the Chalk , ellor of the Exchequer declared, • few oughts since, that it was tircessary to cootie/toe the linnet:ling climes settled at the time of the Union, for some years longer. And why was it necessary I Because the manufactures of Ire land were in such a slate as would end its rain, if they had not the benefit of these protecting duties. Twenty years of trial had tocoiell away suttee the Union, awl the Irish maiinfactures are in a state of ruin, and the Inch people it, a state of the utmost distress. It was then very strange that the Noble Loud should talk of the prosperity of a country which required only to he visited to whew Its poverty and wretchedness. Such was its real sitrusti 4444 and the assertion of the Noble Lord must have beet, tussle either its ignorance, or with • wish to deceive. Su fully was lie impressed with the unhappy situa tion of that country, that should no other Member be found to do so, he would, in the course of the move for a Committee to take the state of below, into considtration. Before he sat down, lie would, for that country, implore the profecii of the douse; lie was sure they would nut till trAgt• the feel huge of the Insh people. To the principles of the tneasurel., as they affected the rest of the empire. he had objtlclitnis not le-% toroog. Ile . to, tura. sores of a similar tharatter tried in Ireland before the rebellion. NVliat could be their object now but to gag the people—to put clown their free itievtings —to prevent public °walnut from steering its front against the Nlinisters—to diVaral the people—to ex 'mac fluor houses to be entered at night—arid to subject females to brutal insult, or brutal viola. rose ! Thoye things occurred it, Ireland. The Noble Lord 'night wish to fuiget them, but they errold never hr iorgedien there. What would ti , -se uses. sows effect They would drive the people to system he and t ho se who ac ted with I .;.ut pursued for many years had involved the country 111 misfortune, tool lett the people oppressed With all imti.lerable load of taxation—arid was the wall: to be completed by gaining a surrender of all tit:lr liberties ? The Him. Nleitiher conciutled by saynig, that though lie way trot then prelim-ed with oily ainetoluttent, he would, in the course of the doscossion propose, that Irelaml might be exempt ed from the operation of tile Bills. Lord CASTLERLAGII said, that the liorintirable Gentleman might raise any particular question re *peeling Ireland in the Cor ~,, ittee. 'Flue Home then resolved itself into it Committee. Sir C. Moscx, idler slating that the idlire of Loll Lieutenant of Counties was a military office, and not io all CaSts filled by the same verso., who held the Afire of emit)* Minimum, mimed that the words " Lord Lieutenant" should be left out of the clawe for culling meetings. Mr. G. LAMB wished to carry the Amendment ftrther—he wished that no Magist sate should hire the power of refusing ineetii.g., but ilmwe wlto•are not under influence, and who snigtit he expected to give It meeting even in opposition to Govent• mem. Recent experience proved that Lord Lieu tenants could not act independently without *ppm !tension, and without the fear of losing his office. The Ameutlntent was negatived without * _ _ Mr. I'►trr.trps said, that as the Bill was framed, it tifectsially prevented all meetings in Nlancliester. 54. BaouGttim argued on the Millie .Idr—it would, he zatd, effectually prevent meeting% in Birmingham, Sheffield, 11'olverliamptun, and even in Southwark. Mr. Alderman W•ITHMAN contended, that un less it was made imperative on Magistrates to call meeting , , it would be altogether impossible for any meetings to be held. He instanced the Corpora tion of Bath, elected by itself, intlepruideibt of the people. In London too it was Wren found difficult to get a meeting, and cilium' were under cnmtool prosecutions for acting there. The Alagistrstes too had six days for consideration whether they would call the meetings or not ; so that measures iu that House, even the Habeas Corpus Act itself, might be repealed, whilst the Magistrate was de• liberating. Lord COMPTON said, that hr supported the prin. ciple of the Bill, but he still held it that the an. clerit right of the people to meet should nut he in vaded ; lie had, therefore, du amendment to pro. pose, which he thought would protect that right, raid guard at the same time against improper in trusion. The amendment was, that the Magis trate should be obliged to call • public triertiog where a requisition was presented to hint signed by twenty freeholderv, posses/Mg 100/. d year each: said, lie proposed the resolution us well to pro tect the populsr right, as to prevent any odium from bring thrown on the Magistrates by means of the Bill. Colonel MaxWELL proposed nearly a similar amendment with regard to meetings in Scotland, natuely, that meetiogs slaitild be called where re quisitions should be presented by tell persons enti- tled to be Co 111111111 l 111 l ers of Supply. Lord CANTUNEAGH strongly objected to both classes; they were calculated•to overturn the oh ject of Cie Bill. In many cothiCes it woul Iheno , protection ti4ain.t tuninltuary meetings of two limulreil thous:lntl persons, that twenty freeholder* s h o uld he at the head of • reiplisition, lie inidanced in particular the comity of York. Did ant the Noble Lord think that in that county twenty free holders might he procured to • retiocritiott ? Yet would not there lie a tilinalttlary meeting ? not that mi•c:iief happen which it was the object of the 11111 to prevent? Ile would object to the Nonencl.nent-, convinced a, he was that they would lia.r titer ehi ct of rendering the 111111 entirely 11111. gltory. P. GRANT said, that the observations of the Noble Lord .hewed the exce-s to which he was prepareal to Carry his principle, which was nothing lio• than a rli.trno, not of a part, owt even of the lower (Instil.' cif the people, hut of the whole, end More particularly of the gentry, the freeholders of the country. The Noble Lord, it now s.eemed, could n ot t o l e rate that twenty freeholders, of Ittlll. n.year, whorsl4l have that power which he was ready to give to live ildiegi.trates.—( I fear. f—Sis much for the g e n tlemen of England. Now as to Scotland.— There. again, the same distrust W 14% ohoervalde, owl the same or.tein to apply, even where the She. • were actually under the control of the Govern ment. The Hm. sod Learned Gentleman took this opportunity of alluding to the Scotch burghs, the herds of which had not the slightest con nexion with the inhabitants of the neighbourho od . - . Lord NORMANDY. in n low toswe ~ of 'Mee, ob. iretrd to the NuWe Lord's Amendment in its pre sent form, which would render the Bill ionperative. The Loan ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND alluded to the persons who were sistburised to call meetings in Scotland. and raid that the Sheriffs in that country. tl gin appointed by the Crown, were not remove ably at pleasure—they were fur life. and may be therefore constdered independent. A Convener (as was the term in Scotland) of a county war em powered to call a meeting, and l►e challenged July Gentleman to name ail instance in which a Con vener had refused to call a meeting. An Hon. Member, whose name we could not learn, 'mid, that the Bill was intended to protect the people, end not infringe their rights. He should oppose the Amendment. Lord A t.Tlioitr said, that though the Sheriffs in Scotland were not remnveable at the pleasure of the Clown, yet the Justices were. The 1001. a year freeholders were lint to be intrusted with the power of calliope a meeting. though their qualifications were .precisely the ►ame as thow required train a Justice of the Peace.—(Fleur, /war.) The Arroarre.v-Genkuat. called the attention of the House to the poriuctvle of I his Bill, which war to prevent illegal meetinv. He thought the adoption or the Noble Lord's amendment would rick the whole principle of the Bill. It war quite Of late yesis that freeholders claimed the !mower of cowry oo ioo g comity tweeting%. Ile knew all iustauce in which it lied torn a question at ler", whether even a Sheriff had the power to convene such meetings. Mr. KENNEDY had the strongest objections to the Bill in its present shape, nod with reference to its application to Scotland, ins pointed ant the dis tinction between the mode of up;iointing Sheriff's in Scotland mid in England, and the different mruuer in which their ditties were assigned. Mr. DEuMAN ssid, that as the principle of the Bill was to him ohji-etiunable, so were the detsils, in any shape in whiell they could he applied to support that principle. However, as the Noble Lorors ansendtuent gave one chance more in favour of the right of politico, it should have his support. He insisted, in opposition to the opinion of the Aitorney•Gerieral, that the Sheriff was the constitti ti ssss al officer invested with the right, but not ex clusively. of calling county meetings. He ridiculed the opinion that the BM was protectiug and not restrictive ill its operation. Lard BINNING submitted. that there was no sinif..gy between parish meetings and those of counties, in the way in which the argument was nartl by Gentlemen opposite. lie denied that the Sheriffs or Scotland were dependant ori the Crown, and atiserted, that the Convener of the county, with whose iiionisiaboil the Crown had no concern, rather than the. W:l4 ihe 11•11;11 person applied to for the purpose of cuhhi,. such meetings. As the House laid admitted by such large majorities die principle of this Bill, he trusted the Committee would out adopt any proposition to the shaPr of an ameri dme o t, which was at variance with that prin ciple. Lord EnettinTrisr contended, that the nhject of . Ministers o as ni !wore us confine the exercise of the right of petition to parochial ineettligs, and to extinguish those of couture*. This was clear, when that middle class of respectable yeomanry, who held incomes of 1011/. a year, were not to be in frosted with the privilege of culling a county meet ing.—(Dear.) Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the Bill merely affected meetings held in the open air, and did out touch those of the people convened in the usual maimer in Towel-halls, or within doors.—(Hear.) Mr. flosivet.t. said n few words respecting the framing .11 one of the clauses. Sir !tuneful. HERON alluded to the manner in which Sheriffs were named ; and said, he knew au instance in which a respectuble Gentleman refused to fill that office, on the tennis in which it was of to him by the Crown, and another person who accepted the terms tvi.a actually hired to do the duty.—(Grim of " name .r"/ Sir ItonEire IlEitON Said, he had no objection to name the Gentleman who had independence enough to refuse the offer tendered to hiss, ; but he would not name the person who afterwards accepted the office, us he had no desire to expose any eau to ads foriny. The Gentleman who refused it was Mr. Calcraft. of the rowdy of Lincoln.—(!fear.) An lion. Member replied, that Mr. Catcraft did serve the office 4,1 Sheriff tor the comity of Lincoln.--(Hear, front the Illinisteritil Benches.) Sir Ro•citt Milos replanted that it was true Mr. Calciatt slid last year seise the office of Sheriff* for the comity al luded to, but it wits equally true th a t a f e w years ago that Geotirmun had received rind rejected the offer in the manner lie had already mentioned.—( fifer, hear ) Mr. BATUuitsT described the manner in which Sheriffs were nominated, mod Rented that the Crown had any ciliumt over their uumitiation—three names were _given to the •Judges, who transmitted them from each county to the Privy Council, where one . %vas seol.teil. DIA cualibleht fur the three to decline servong ypoie lining a proper excuse, awil then the Crown had no power to select other :so little 11 they, saw was asserted, control over the nonrin ntiuu. Lord MILTON asked, wi, were to be the judges of what would be considered a proper excuse? Mr. R. MARTIN said, there would be an end to the nill if the emendturist were c orred,—(l/ear) —For his part, if the propositiiiii f the opposite side was agreed to, it would only rem nu for him to apply fur leave to return to trelainl.—( L o a laughter.)—He was fir from thinking it would be an easy matter to find twenty frrtliohirts of 100/. a-year, each Radical Perfurnsers—t r i IrrogAi—h g meant Reformers. But he did thank it niNtit hie po•sible to find twenty .uc:i prisons not suffsesespjf discreet to be intriwril with the prrremitimi thi peace of the county in the awl.' of tounattsugy meetings. He strongly supported the principle s.r the 8011, and condemned the isairoducttost of any amen dp a ,pl whi c h would injure Ow principle. Sir C. MONCK said. that rite amendment want misunderstood, for it did nut enable 20 freeholders to call meetings of the county, but to require the S no h t er t i l l i f e . i t i l ai le ttir P e r° o l f ber tli o e ffi r e e e n r e ' ild t l i e l i u n s , o he Piristifiels ane understood it. He would agree to the Bill in Com! parts in which it repressed improper imeting., but not in those which went to the loot of ihr ig:it petition, and sunk county meetings to paruciii.i 011 e.• Lord Coat. Torr acceded to the form of amendment as agreed to by the Mo. Baronet. , A;.O spoke hot ; and he had no objection to enlarge .11 the great counties the number of lreeholdess who were to present a requisition to the Sheriff—for in. starlet., in Lancashire, Yorkshire, awl Middlesex. pro portion r o d CASTLEREAGH could not agree to an y pro ,t wh i c h wou ld ena bl e .20 freeholders to refl• der it conipulsory upon Sheriff. to take cli lige of meetings of a tumultuary description, merely I. cause a few persons had the courage to convene them.—(!pear./ Sir C. MONCK and Mr. BATHURST explained. . . . Mr. J. P. GRANT asked the Lord Ativoe4tr, whether, under this Act, it would be competent kr even a Lord Lieutenant in Scotland to c.ill meeting? He thought not, if the 13tH stood at it wax now worded. The LORD ADVOCATE replied, that the words could be no altered as to obviate this objection. Lord CASTLEREAGH entreated that the Commit tee would confine itself to the imrtienkr clause under co..sideration, and not travel generally through the tneientre. Mr. J. P. GUANT replied, that it was necessary to travel thus generally through the clauses, on ac count of the very correct and explicit manner iu which they were fratued.—(4 Laugh.) The ipi-scion being loudly called tor— Lord COMPTON ruse and said, that as the Hon. Member's (Mr. Maxwell) amendment, would in effect, if adopted, act something in the manner which would attend the cue he had himself pro posed, he should in that event n3l press, his upon the attention of the House. . Sir C. MONCK raid. he would have no objection to make the qualification 500/. nottail of one. of freeholders calling county iriretingo. _ . Lord FoucatoNE fwiuted out the ditieTent min tier in which the Bill would affect Scotland II com pared wilh England, in consequence of there nut being in the former country some of the officers were designated in the Bill. For iostuoce, mete was Ito Cusios Reaming In Scotland. Lord A. HAMILTON apprehended that his No'ile Friend was under mistake, 14 0 five Ju•tices convene u meeting in Scotland as Well as 111 land, fur any thing contained in the clause. 'Fliete wete only two lines yarning particularly to Scut- Isnd, and they were added evidently to include a class of Magistrates not kanwit in England. The ATTORNET.GBNERAL felt olmgert to the Noble Lord for his explanation, its winch he ((in curred. Mr. BROUMIAM submit:rd the propriety of slating the objection of his Noble Friend, by iht :- ing the word "Steward." Oilierwise, the appre hension regarding Scotland would nut be of oge for without cause. Iu the county of Nliil-Lothimi there were enough Magistrates to fulfil the conilitiou the clause requiring five. In most iif the COM:tit-4 there were not five Magistrates. Without the thl. ditto's of" Steward," therefore, Scotfoid would he in the greatest danger of being refused 'opportuni ties of 'fleeting. After some , further discussion. the question al* put, awl the Amendment lost, the numbrra hook; For the Aroendarieci Bl Against it Majority l6O Mr. Alderman Wont) moved an amendment to that part of the clause relattng to the City of Lon, dolt, by winch three 0)11111101k Councilmen should be enabled to call a meeting, in caws where the Alderman of the Ward might refuse. Lord CA&TLEREAGH thought there were int ground. for the Amendment, as the Bill %%mild not affect meetings within doors, and every one of the Wards most likely contained commodious rooms for the purpose ; if they had tin such ritou!. be wo u ld recommend Willis's, a very commodious room in his own neighbourhood. Mr. Ald. Wools said that he should he marry to ha►e his Lordship's neighboui hood ditto, lied by the approach of ten thousand citizens, to petition per. haps against his Lord:.lep's own measure•. Sir W. CURTIS thought there was no ground for the amendment, as the Aldermen never relused to call meetings. Mr. Ald. %Vows was surprised at the tboterimi of the Hon. Baronet, win -u, in fact, unretnog• hall been refuted by the Aldermen very wend% in nine or teu wards.—(Crie. rf " Question. )—The lion. Gentlemen should have the question, lie assured them, and the division also. • Nothing they could do in the way of interrupting hum should in duce hint to abandon the detence of the !Mei-tips which had been intrusted to Into. He was skirt.- mined to take the sense of tile I - Hau•e upon the amendment. Mr. Ald.WstriistsN said, that the Aldermen of his Ward bad uniformly refused uterus g•.— (Cowghtug.)—He assured thee► be was nut to be put ilowit by such means. It only made him s uppose himself in the Common Hull. He had a dusty ta discharge, and Ire would discharge it, whatever ob. .1 E 4el I; I! •e' ! "e acell -:Ory 1100 the boo 1.0 To' OP