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!; 4 " n , r• 10(4/ 111 j ri. gr i k: T.: . • 1 D • • ts' etttered in this manner, he had turned his attention in the mode of procuring the facilities .n requisite. The IlLtev• to which lie alluded were full of maim bactoi bee. nod the population was PS great as that of airy loans in with the exceptions of Li. %wpm)! unit 31siocliester. awl 'AY .Imitllce should he so negligently administered be could not con. mire. It was nut so its Wake tir iu Scotland. In Sentlaml cafes were uot only bit/tight before the Ludy inhalers to ice • year, but • 110Wer exj4ted which Prisomers were brought freers dilteresot parte of that country, lifter a Certain term or confinement, in an y pl a ce where the Judges' were authorised to s ir. It was unnecessary for him to declare these. enmity there was for the dispatch of justice in tied its well as la eriminei cases. In the former the iud. coovenienee was very severe, for it was often cone that causes were postponed for two years in the • event of special verdicts. After Isis motion was agreed to he should move for a Committee, to con sider Illy best meats of -remedying the evil. The question was then pat foam the Chair— s' That an huiabl. Address be reamed frees Ibis Haase to the Prier, Regent, preying his Royal Highness to rhiret that there be laid before this Hesse evict of the Calendar of the Coontien of ennslierisorl, Westiorwelsod. Northrien heirless', sad Durham, snit of the Terns suit Corm, of New. iistk,spon-Tyne. fur the last forty year., speeifyiog the slates of the r specilre eomositinents, of the peribnis ame liorates's, sad deliveries, sod distiognishing the Special frogs the Grooms Jury eases." The motion for the Address was agreed to. Mr. Between brought up the Report of the Committee of Supply, which was agreed to. • Mr. I'. Gaairen.t.—" I understand the six millions of F.xehrquer Bills are issued to pay the Batik their sideliner of that SUM. I would WWI to learn whether the public is to receive any benefit in lien of this lam? I had understood, that it was in consequence of the sum of 11,000,000/. of the revenue of the country lying in the hands of the Bank, that this loan was made. lam aware that it lola been stated in other quarters. that the ad vance of his money by the Bank, without interest, was a ties In she country of 6.000.0001. But let me assume, and I believe I am justified in assuming, that at this moment there is a surplus iu the hauls of the Bank to the same amount ; and the ptnin con du • se. that this large stun of 11,000,000/. has been ambit perfectly uisproductive to the country for eonsiderable period, unless iiinsostitels as it has pro duced Moo 'free lobio of 6,000,000/. and another of 3.4)00,091)1. Sul/n.1.1 , 4; shell, us I have the Lone balmier, the Bank will retain 11,009.00 u/. of she tsuulic money, and advance 3,000,0001 I ?tabloid it to any practical man of business, whether be wiii leot say that the trouble of managing that part of she 'induces that they have lertakesi is a mere limiting. If any competition existed, if there were tiny private batik or establitiliment where this business could be tenseloged, I will take upon sue to sitciare thud -20,0001. ;ter annum would be tonAsiler• ed bult.quier tbs. wrist ; whereas the country is now ateyilig b. Ilao.k at the role of half a million. I hope did night lloore Gentleman will, at this time to/• theatres and pressure. feel some consideration for the 'public. uud HOG 1 . 11134 bus 11111111grOICOlti to 4he paltry sum of 3.000.0001." The CUANCELIma of the Excneeuva said, it was rash., a matter of economy to take this sum from the Batik, and make another arrangement. SECRET COMMITTEE. Lord CASTLEIEAGH —'• In sisiu u to move that the irepero trot down to the I louse be re-regret! (9 the consideration of a Committee, I do not think it ;territory to comment on the asinine of Own) id any length: the Mousse will see it would be premature. and that it is better to postpone any statements of periscoolar opinions till the Knew is put in poses soot of the sum of the informat to he derived from thrm. Agreeing to the motion I now propose will not pledge any Ilasr. Gentleman to only parti ruler opinion ur line of conduct. Ass How. and Learned Gentleman put a question to me last night, the tendency of that question the Hon. Gentleman seemed to be misled min a belief that souse pecoilistr awl extraordinary mode of inquiry. was to be instituted ois ,hr present occasion. 1 stat ed that it was not the intention that more than the usual pewees should be granted ; end th.tt its the appothim •nt of th- Committee I should follow the punned from the time of the Revolution. Besides !hi., it was nos ted that the sole view of the uppoittsment of the Committee was to euuoble Montero to nbt•in a Bill of Indemnity. But it is not in that view that a Committee is recommended. The telvantage of a Secret Committee is, that it enables the Executive so make fuller disclosures than could otherwise he made—to conimunicate much iuforrma. tion that mild lint be given to the country at large. As for a 11111 of Indemnity, that question must be sorted ors abstract grounds. The object of this communication 1.. that Parliament may be made acquainted with the psestsit state of the country. Parliament will be happy to find that there are new scenes of prosperity, wealth,and tranquillity its the country; but it would be • mistake to suppose that there are not dangerous men still actively at work in she country, however infatuated they may Le. This communication will thew the country its real state."—The Noble Lord concluded by snov inag, as its such cases from the lime of the Resolution, The the papers laid before the House by order of the Prince Regent, be referred to the ronsirleretioti of a Secret Committee. Mr. Tint% ey—i. Sir.l do not intend to make tiny motion' against referring tittle papers to a Com muter ; but I eawnot help declaring, that this is n most rior.sortitssare 'node of coining down to the I foisle without st, ) eto-ssage from the Crows,. sin told thurr err il.ir .•r ten precedents to justify this method ; but these cases were attended with peculiar circuinstanres. It is most singular to re ceive a conoisiiiiiiratinis like the present at a time of peace, end ref growing prosperity in the muti ny. tilie:l a co iiiiii min:anon is usually a pre lude too 'nose legi.litive en ac t ments, to a ass pensiau of the llabeas Corpus. Act, or some such useismre. Now e iiiii es down simple a beg. COOla iiiiii g wipers relating to the internal state of the coiriiir) —moil why so designated I am at a loss to know ; I suppose beraisse some such words ha p. pened to drop Irma th e N o bl e Lortl.--(4 A N ; —wi ngs 1 saw t h e bag 'brought in, and sitneik-laid tin the table, I innorrally concluded it was sns the *object of the poor law:,.— (A la v h. )_.I castnot co ieeive why sou message was brought down, ex cent ilea it- might let us , into the secret 01 what is !stoked tu.-1 /leer, Iseur.J—This is it mysterious it nu evideut desire of cont:tal. twist. Ministers, hiding that . for the last eight or ten mouths they leave been making ont • case against themselves, now wish to make a coseirr thenvelves. The Nolde Lord . states, with his usual candour, that a Bill of bidentnity would hr gasil thing.—/A laugh. plain English, the ot t fret of appointing ti le present Committee is to bring in • Bill of reidenotity for Nlisaisters, and it is only reasonable that Ministers should have the appointment of that Committee. One of the peas- cited reasons alleged for the suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act, wisp, that the Secretary of State for the Home Department might be em powered to apprehend the leaders of sedition. The leaders, however, were not apprehended : Ministers • came with a drag-net through particular counties, and swept away whole swarms of the people. I would hr the last to refuse a Bill of Indemnity in cases where there was a fair title ; but every' one knows that alarm has been the daily bread of Mi nisters; that nothitig but their vigorous measures would save the barracks, the soldiers, the manu factories, the establishments of the country.' On my honour, after reading with great attention the reports of the several triads, I most solemnly de clare, that, iii my opinion, in no one case his the s u s pe n si on o f the Habeas Corpus been of any prac tical use. We don't now siwak from the linos and clerk insinuations of Ministers. but front well. known facts—from the results of all tilt trials. I read all the trials, and the evidence given, which I dill with greater pleasure, from the spleurlid dis play of talent given at one plaice by Mr. Denman. My impression is, that, whatever mischief really existed, arose from Ministers suffering things to go too far. They now begin to feel alarm ; They may ; for it is my 'Perfect conviction, that the posers conferred on thesis have been exercised with an usinecessery degree of rigour. If a single matt was detained in prisms longer than it was seen to be necessary—if the suspension of the Habeas Corpus was continued fur it moment longer that, a perceived necessity—it forms a direct charge egoinst Ministers. As to the employ omit of spies, whatever opinion might be entertained of its policy, there must he one feeling of abhorrence for the boasting publicity wills which the acts of these in fo-and agents was defended.—/ Hear, hear.)—lf a man alreuily implicuted al Id corns, and give its- formation to Gayer 1111 l ent, it wan all right ; but if o 111:111 be employed and seat down to incite sea! in sugar innocent met, to sedition and eniispiritrY— if us series of such acts be pursued—l can only de scribe it as a mass of atrocious villainy. The Noble Lord, with all .his *Memento. can never chew that these spies are slot ititainous. Nlietistersure now to be put on their trial—the Committee that tries them should nut Ise constituted in this way—it is well known that in cases of Secret Committees, Clover 1111 l ent select amd send round to their friends a certain ;Humber of money hen these names are written 011 their itepert., and pot into the glass eili the Csts any mini suppose that useful results will Gm. hien a Co 1111 l sitter so fot ? What dre they its report ? the contents ot the hag—nothing more ! No Gentleman can doubt Lut the single province of the Committee is to declare, that the measures pursued by Government have beets wise, salutary, mild, and rating to the country.—(//far. hear.) —lt is all a juggle. Ministers put themselves fill their trial—they ncknowledge there are heavy charges ogaisot them; beet they come down with a bag, mot say, 5 That is my bag, touch it if you dare I' I trust I have saitL enough to satisfy the House that no measisre ever produced mare distrust mud suspicion in the country thou the present will," Mr. B. BATlltlit*T sold, the jealousy held out by the Hon. Gentleman ought to be exercised by the Howe in cases where such large 'towels were eon ferred as under the Suspetision of the ihlirigg Corpus—but still precedents should be followed. It no* nut reasonable that when Miiii•ters were M. trussed with such powers, they should afterwards be suhaject to the swine's of every individual. The Ito- onitraltle Gentleman said that the leaders had not bet it apprehended ; hut he would join issue on this point with the Hots. Gentleman. The fact was, that the leaders, such as they were, bad been ap pteliemiell; and far this he would appeal to Gen tlemen of the disturbed parts of the country, who viewed the matter aid' it more impertitl eye.— Supposing remiss of rank had beets ineolveil—(A laugh vu the Opposition si.lei—they should be fir s t arrested ; but that nut being the ease, it was wWally useful to arrest the le a ders, thou g h o b s c u r e . The major pert of the apprehensions were made by Magistrates, without any interference of the persons who had been alluded to. Ile must maintuits there was a disputition in the country to effect a general insurrection, as stated in both Reports, and that this had been partly b topped by the convictions. Never had them heen it stronger establishment of charges preferred than in one place. It could not be supposed that the designs there exposed were isolated, or unconsiecteil with other places. In stead of a promiscuous dragging, to use the terms of the Hon. Gentleman, the leaders had been se lected without soy rashness or want of discrimi uation. The observation of the Hon. Geotlemaii on the ministerial appointment of the Committee (A largh)—only come to this—that the House have the power of appointing those they deem pro per for the occasion. Ois some occasions. like the present, the House had appointed Committees wit of the sentiments of the majority, though it it tint to be doubted bid they are tawny compose.] of persons entering Otto the views of Ministers.—lle could make it out almost to demonstration, that the powers intrusted to Ministers had not been impro. perly exceeded. The suspension did not create anyevils, and it ',recreated mull. l'he distinction laid down by the lion. Gentleman, that it was allowable to employ a iwrson already connected with the conspiracy, exactly accorded with the course pur sued by Government, as had been already slated by another Honourable Member of that House; the person most reflected on had, by accident, ['t estae ucquainted with the conspiracies—posses sing this knowledge, he bad communicated it to Government, and therefore lie was engaged (as the Hon. Gentleman admits he justly might) to give information of what was going on. That lie was , the promoter or instigator or (lime% he ail”clutely denied. With respect to the prospective benefits from the Committee, they had two important ends attiam—to ex,llssstte in wlint manner the powers already conferied Innd been executed; and to in quire into, and 'sport tin the actual state of ilie couotiy at this .111011 k II t o They o meld reisollect that the country yet rails spew them. molt their -Report would protests'', @hew that.the most prying etgolosoire of the magistracy was even necessary. lie would conclude by impressing On the 111/114.'t tlitit conspinscies were mischievous, whether the heads of them were clothed with riches or honours, or -men or comparative insignificance and obscurity. Mr. '('entity—" The Right lion. Gentleman misunderstands some remarks of mine. What I said was. that having examined the evidence given on tlw State Trials. I sat down perfectly convinced that this would any thing but warrant the suspen sio) of the Dolmas Corpus." Mr. DouGtss—" I strongly object to the pm. posed mode of appointing the Committee—it is nil a mockery. If the Noble Lord cannot trust the examination of his conduct to any hut such a Committee, it is b e tt er tie.shoul,ll name the mem bers of the Commence himself—as it is, they will be mere creatures of Ministers. A Right Honourable Gentleman has defended the wished. fur mode of appointment by the precedent of 1801—that is tent a ease exactly in point. This Committee is framed for the express purpose of 'winging in It Bill of indemnity. In constructing it, the least appearance of fraud is dangerous ; it is well known that nothing trails more than these pious frauds to lower the proceedings , of the House in the opinion of the country. Especial care ought to be taken that in cases like this, the house of Commons should be pure front a breath of suspi cion. Thinking that this will be a Committee of Cabinet nomination. I condemn it. as I do all hal lotitig. The Right him. Gentleman has asserted, and confirmed his amnion. that Members holding places . under Goiter 1111 l ent are not excluded from the C 1111 l mittee. The criminals are to bt tried by a jury composed in part of themselves. I will make its appeal to those high feelings of the Noble Lord on which lie so much prides himself—l will ask him if he were called upon to justify any act in pri vate life. to satisfy any doubts entertained to Ins prejudice by ell individual—what would be the line of novestigstion he would deem necessary to his ho nour to pursue ?—would lie not consider it tots impe rious demand on his lofty spirit that there should be perfect impartiality, etitireopeousess. and eves y (Immo tonity of sifting the charge to the bottom ? When these suspic . are entertained by the public, why does the Noble Lord shelter hitnarl fonder such petty artifices as a green beg and a bonne—(lltar, hour.)—The question of a Bill of Indemnity is toot meetly a public one, there are important private rights involved in it ; the actions of the imlividnals confined, acid their characters. The object of Bill of Indemnity is judicial, as well its political, and all the unfortunate persons imprisoned under the Suspension must have their cases considered before a decision can jaunty and conscientiously be come to. If the Committee is to be u Committee of Sanction, and not of Inquiry—if it is to he com posed of the Noble Lord's town creatures-41mo the Noble Lord may— " I.ike Catu, give big Mlle Senate laws, " And sit attentive to his owe applause—" he may gloss over his measures as be pleases. I trust ttttt e to the ineueoice of public opinion than An any thing to be expected from the Con tttt Otter. It was the Luddite Confederation that produces' the disturbances, stool the mouthy of Guyer ttttt eon. Due circumstance excites the wonder of every our 46110 itilitlght on the stoljrct—the extraordinary 'ay of counsel employed by the Crown on the late State Trials—it is astonishing that Govern ment should deem it necessary not only to egis gage every lawyer of talent on the circuit, ex• ceps the our who so ably defended the prisoners at Derby, hut, besides, to bring down others from lanolin', mid this slot so onosch to strengthen their own side, us In neutralise tine exertions of advuotate., mid weaken the other side. The Right f loss. Geod. has failed its oinking out a case for Oliver ; lie did toot come within the description of those agents tut Ilon. Gent. on this side of the house had isolmitted might be, without censure, employed. That de scription, flu I uaderstood it, included the circum stonier of the agent being known no the part of the country from .which he conveys, the intelligence. A straver, coming as ato accomplice. is more ac ceptable; he brings news, details information, tells of other branches of the conspiracy, mid intended risings—this was the precise course pursued by Oliver — cud there is no shadow of mown, to assert that such an agent might with propriety receive employment f Ministers." Mr. B. 11*nm:we explained. Sir S. llostiLLY.-.." I sun by no means disposed to officio. that Parliament is not called on to instie tote an inquiry into the state of the country, as it is at present, rod lute heen for some time previous to tile meeting of Parliament ; on the controory. I sin convinced that the investigation of the ouliject will tend to the public advantage. limit it epiwars more especially necessary that every possible tailor 'nation be afforest to the house, inasmuch us it ap pears, from what has fallen from the Noble Lord mid Right honourable Gentleman opposite, that it may form tier ground of ass ulterior legislative mea sure. The evince' of the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) had been qualified by time assurance, that the legis lative measure likely to be resorted to would he merely one of precaution. But the House is al ready acepsaiosted f the highest 'source of autho rity, the Speech front the Throue, that too such precautionary 1111411 MM is at all necessory or desirable. On the first day of this Session the Prince Regent's Speech had Lurie testimony to the general tranquil lity and loyalty which at that ttttttt colt prevailed through ull parts of the country, recoonmendisog to the good muse of Parliouttent to implore that happy disposition by all means in its power. After this, is it possible skit Nlinisters are about to snake this ex lionisation the pretext for demoniling new powers nt the hands of the House—(gear, /scurf—aid this, too, at the very time they are affecting to re sign rip all those extrnorilitiary powers witit which we bu d 1 " ) very reluctantly inintsted them— (Hear, hear/—nt a time when the. Aunt-owe-oe twirl himself was admitting there existed no longer ruy necessity for douse severe measures which uiul bee n adopted, will kill bit jlll4 1110Vesl, 11110 the recogiiizances of all those ensiled with diti:4lre tiim should in iltschisNeol ? Their object is b u t too obvious—they are ausintts to make out, if pa... 'atilt-, 'itch it ease its null Indite!' the II --Olist 1411'411i.. sitter their cooduct with indulgence. But after ttll.ll. has oppeered, ail' they have the loresuimition iro expect the llotow will grails them a Bill or bi d:moo): What ! ask us to iisdruniify them 4 • ; 4 6 . • • 111 • • • j y fit ~\ . %. IV - ;\ fair that d:voila:foil misconduct, %vi t als Ilia tend ed to misrule mod anarchy through s osit the country, an& of which, it is to be hoped, they begin to be at lint ash:toned, if not afraid of its couksquences! The Nolde Lail treats an iiisfeinnity its a natural cousequelorq of a suspension of the fishes, Corpus. Bait the Douse will remensher the circumstances under whio•lo he applied to tins floose for that sus pension. Does not every one recollect how hr ill ations,' mom the seriatim and dreadful responsibility under aborts his Nlisjeaty's Government accepted of this entice:slat, of the general liberties of English men ?_( Misch applause.)—lf indemnity be the natural result of a soispension, what becomes of this tremendous restionsibility ? %Vint lokelihood is there of ...Moog Ministers to account fair official Mi4eoil - who are always assured of this mode of pro lemons from w h o may perhaps very justly feel themselves egg ieved ? It is to be hoped, since suds ample urgency exists for a measure of this nature, that Isis Majesty's Mi- Wasters silt be able. as they liotee assured the floosie they can, to ;Ilford ass the means of ascertaining the exiateitee oft his urgent necessity, by proof—not such as lately, in the Report of the Secret Committee. was ullordeal, but proof satisfactory mid conclusive in every honest mates mittal.—(//ear, hear.)—Let them 'patentee to the casuistry anal the II use a de tailed stale of the country since Julie last. Let them state why, considering the avowed tranoinil state of the country at barge since that period, they dill not advise the calling together of Parliameot its September, °cipher, or November last, for the purpose of faecing the 'allelic front the disgrace and thraldom looter which the country has groaned for mouths? Out December, and the greater part of January, elapses before Parliament meets, anal then we ore told, the very first day, tranquil lity and comparative prosperity had been restored fur some considerable time. without any reason honing heen assi:pie.l by any of his Majesty's Minis ters, why this Douse has not been cipher called together. Ilut, instead of an y suc h rea s on being asstgited, we are told that a continuation of some of these exit% unary powers promised to be relin quished will yet he necessary for the .conveniesice mid protection of Ministers. Nor should it be for- Innen, that it was not until Government found themselves unavoialably upon the eve of u Session. assail became apprehensive of tile conseciatences of their proctiostinatioa, that they Logan in the least degree tat relax loom their system of excessive rigour and muemittitag seventy. —1 /leer, hear. ) Is is time to impairs*, them auto the state of the country intersially in the intervening months, dor log which mercy, if not our accustomed forms of Law, might lane been permitted to mitigate the se vere itutt nny , s of vsrioas inditulusls , ilojilstly tic cased mail cusilioteir —a hen we hod the otiose tufa- Muth, character, who hot. with so notch effect in stilled bus poison into the mind of oar late Secret Gaiiviiittee, working up the angry fr. !logs of de lualeol anal distressed iridisioluals o ur of cowboy, .tusl who, instead of seeking • 11 lot eutif , titettrio, Merely Pitoglit bread, and assurii:LT them that there was li!Iy I honsand its Landon. sevrally thou sand in in!. r platys, really to joins in the great ohject oaf lati!aolling us redress of their go tevatices, what titans c.sal ac e hilillatOe there can eXI , I its the tapir setamiatais given by such execrahle authority to the Committee of Secret.) , up ass which we so indiscreetly voted the Suspension of the Constitution ? It is not, I hope, by such evidence ass cats lie drawls from such tosiscreinits as these, that we are now to ascer tain the internal state ratite country, or the rea,oll - of it Bill Of Illde 1111 l ity to Alliiisters— (llelle. hear, hear) —although opoo such esi deuce it is to lie lamented s nosh appy beings have been brought to trial, and suffered the severest poiiiislitneist. Lin tot advert to the proposed Coin inittee, which is to take the Ministers out of all their trouble, there can be bin one reasons to desire it blioUld lie appointaul by hallo, and that is tolerably obvious to all. Is there any delicacy its his Ma jesty's Ministers attempting to ismistseate for them selves such ii . ertions as may liberate them from their embarrassment, and grant them the indemnity th e y require ? The decrial forms the (-louse prevented any individual of that house, whilst labouring un der aseCtssation, from being a party to the proceed ings subsequent to Isis defence, and required that Ise shonfd isliseut himself. Are not Ministers similatly situated in the present instance, and can it be considered consistent with parliamentary usage that they should evade the forms established in all other cases ? Its fact, they thus secure to thrsinelves a majority of votes amongst the judges before whom their case is to be tried. From what has transpired at Derby, nothing can be in ferred as to the origin of the emispiracy: fur not widen:sliding the Attorney-General was challenged user mid over again to enter into the Minute d e tails of its origin, mud it has beets alleged lay counsel that he did not do an, clearly for this reason, that if lie had guise into its origin, those missionaries of evil would he found at the battens of it, a n d that the motives for conspiracy weir supplied by these spies anal at roctous agents of Government I kite, hear.) on that orensima, l (qualm help !mowing I think the Right Honourable Gentleman did his dote much more satisfactorily to Ministers nous It, the 'oolitic. I low deem eio the Right I loss. Genllrosam say that the trasecort . in Derby proved the %vial's's] mid tarsalarwly Ilse measures adopted by this Moose la-t 'as -nn', wisest of the origin of those stalitiotis !nuivoirtimi.4 We still re -111.111 in MI s-li of the Attorney-Getters, sat least, ositpears to have lards courted nits! a1...1it-41 for ? lint more remarkable than all, these extraordinary iitiererB carte not ea:l e d into torsion iii the transactions at 1)ro by, but the ordinary adaiihMotnotioss of justice was found ade quate to the suppressiou of the tillassilt, and the detention and execution of the offesooleas, who w e re me.' I I rad V as soon as they would have the iltilresir ei.lllll. Act remained its hail lioce. Owl vet 51 mistrt s stay here partielilerly is to lie lisuud the reasiiiii.thlet.rier *oil expediency sat the MINI. Objecitil its, 111 . 11:1" till lilt' MIS, hitt had been c plenat through the agency of those mis sionaries ash rvii, albs had sisal heels heti, like the maossompies of the . Gospel, to snood 111 , 1.1.• lit Uhuill Ilwy we we sent, wols a view to retailer them cooniite, Moil restore them to is JONr reuse of their dangerous thornlike, nod vractice•• but expiessly to aggravate their tli-sat faction, and lite them to acts viotiesier nod insittnedion. These inisciemats, tau doubt, twee had the bold nyss to retus u and clan.) Clair claw al at the 11111414 or Govettiment, as if they hit tlohe the most me ritorious mos. Is this the return the [louse should now suffer to be made to the public. fur the ton fidetwe it has reposed in its constituen's, tie rather ought it not to set itself "a•aiously about making some atonement fur lite insults and indi,:t•iiies it lias• suffered the Noble Lord anti hi: colleagors to belt upon the public at large for so intiity p it r Notwithstanding all that 1111% liven urged as 'yr the individual sufferings under the late AN-t— -the evils arising out of the frerpretit •11141 rantiaanal imprisoinnents—the arbitrary p ro ceed' ' , : •1 —the pending periwigs accused, elatined !!!:•• from one part of the kingdom to the either— I cow'. alder all these as of little weight or unto :apse compared with the baneful effects of ILr. too veal sit whirl, has been established in this ins!iiiiye. W • well know how Ministers, when they endeavour to t - vade the Constitution iu part, seek fur pr. co dt are, t Implant their application to this I-louse. How h ipp . 7 would they have beeti had our history ail'adsll them 1111C11 a precedent for their late applicat• , ll, as we now have placed upon our Joornsils a:: t•ter:,:.•l memento of nor short-sightedness and oat'cli• yritee— a precedent for the repeal of the Habeas Gantt-, because the poor and lately industrious inhabita••••4 of the manufacturli , di s tricts were mum „ant of em ployment and bread', and murmured tut Cie !1,111;:r • and felt disposed to outrage and turindt, in coree quence of the severity of their sufferins. Even their applications to the Hnnse for its reform wen.: considered ugaravatiotta of the offence. Let us he ware of the effect which this precedent may prod tic- • when ages shall hire 'timed away, and the grave shall have closed alike over those who now enjoy the favour of the Sovereirs r n , or who, like us, perform a bootle,a and thankless duty to their country, by d e f t:l (ll o.g cite rights and liberties of the subjects oft his real in front the rash hand of an arbitrary Administration —why's perhaps shall be seated on the throne a Prince of the llousu of Brunswick, Nis true, but with all Oa! dangerous prejudices and arbitrary principles nf the Stualts, and who, like them, shall Ito I snore pride in being ranked amongst the lita.nots of Et:- rope, than classed amourt those legtwitutte, t•-:1- stitutiomil, and beuelieent inmiarchs, olio sacred light upon the ages in which they lived. I,: r. theirs, I say, dread the possible use 'airy made by the tlinistera of such a Prince, of I.recedents for suspension and indemitity, circumstancea of similar alarm.—( Loud (gip v.) As an lion. Baronet observed, as well Ii; .;lit 1:1C writ of Milieu Corpus be expunged Iron, .tutict. gsa thus o.e. 01i our proceedings at law, dl.. reo er 1 every occasion of alarm, to be sitapeotl•a!, as it is called. In times of peace and tramp/11111y. aisle writ ass comparatively of 110 w:iuttt. %Tr. 11 Lai require•l its interference then? It %%as in ct-u 'ark of arbitrary a xoftlllll of 110 Wee on the pit of the Exectitiyy that the nit itself was valtiahly. %%Aim ! shall u•! resign 1111 every such occasiois that which is the just pride and boast of these countries over all others, end enable, by arty cri minal facility, as arbitrary Administration first tie suspend tile invaluable privilege of' the subject, mat then afford him security against public or private • impeachment, by granting an Act of Indemnity ? Let the House pause err it %auction so dangerous precedent. 1 shall vote myself fur information on this important subject ; but I trust the House will see the necessity of requiring the r0it,.,4 mo,t satisfactory inforination, as well as reetrent hi. Ma jesty's Nlinisters tmin natiling, its must lie the in evitable result of a ballot, those who sire to lo cline their judges in a case of the moat vital interests tas us and to our posterity. —( Considerable app/r ani./ Mr. Puti.Lies—" Ilia M.jesty's Mrmarers caat not present their case to the public tinder mole un favourable :minces than by attemptilig to appniu an unfair jury to try a case which is riot only their own, but that of those persons lately retttriaal ft um prison, and, indeed, or a great pint of the king dom. If the conduct of Government had been the - reverse of whet it was—if, ioso,od of sending spit s and tuisaionaries of revolt sod bloodshed into this country, conciliation mud the dissemination of sound principles had been tried, the objects now boasted. to have been attained by insidious mid creiss means, would have been accomplished walloat shedding the blood of miserable debuted ineo.— The assertion that an incendiary plot existed ot Lancashire, was to be traced, from my own ktart - ledge and research on the sulaject, solely to tho misrepresentation of spies and informers. If such a plot had existed, would the Attorney-General he justified in discharging from confinement, with out trial, those charged with such an heinous too pose as the burning of that immense town ; and if there be any just cause for surprise at the present tranquillity, it must arise from an apprehelisluil that so many persons have been let loose through nut the country, whom their friends must look tsPou as martyrs in the common cause. But tin: fact is, that in despite of the imprudence and the irritating conduct of our Government, the ptibla• tranquillity has, generally speaking, been preserved ; notwithstanding the natural agitation and Itrineoct which might be expected to result from the convic tion which prevailed iii a starving populatom of eight or 900,009 persons, who all firmly believed their distresses would be relieved by a ileturin iu I Parliament." _ _ Air. WYNN professed, his opinion as to the tx pediency of the Suspension, and other restrictive measures, remained the same, notwithstanding, what had fallen its this or previous evenings debates. Co-operation had been expected by those at Derby, both it► London and in Yorkshire, its which Lisa of the country the insurgents embodied themselves., and tired upon the King's troops. Its the trims. actions at Derby, it was not so mut It tl:e ittiorstc- General's duty to trace the insuirection to 114 origin, its to brim: home treason to the (Hear, front the Oppo.v r ion . It. should lie had done before, in stiiirort of tiie moisines ;Molded on that important locc,,loil by hi s Majesty . , ftlmti.ters, and could see no objectioii to a select, of of the Committee by ballot. Sir IVst. Btiunouuus, 83 fur flout &akin: events load justified the lute nu-astirrs of Goa t ii umemt, thought it impossible, lions a review of Vir contelits of the two former 11-ports of the Secret Committee, that Government could make out any l',lqe for their defence. ptcjects of she slisai. fected in this city were never know*, limit to fist: persons—two broken apothccal its, a bank, opt hy mnal., a cobbler, and the bully of a brothel. wl.il•t ut the taiir near I)rttn• no more than two hutolre I cull-cte , ! ; and both att. altos..