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~-- I' L I t I ^--=tom, . 'F. ~k ~,, _ . occurred tta him, as they rose out of the papers already submitted to their Lordships consider:to:in; after a great deal had been alleged by the Noble Secretary respivting the letters of Mr! Frere being • private, and that alma produced they nottld prove not notion/int. On the contrary, now they were produced, its his op' of all other papero ou the table they were the most important ; and he could not see •.1 tutu the deumninittion attached to them by Noble Lords oppoeitte of their iseiag letters of a private nature. ?hey had certainly exhibited, Wry extraordinary &naiad in slur Minister at Ma— drid, wholead written intro eery peculiar terms to: Sir John Moore, whereby that illustrious (ieneral l was involuntarily intineed to march further than. Salinitanca, end littfortunatily for his couutiT, cif-' terwards lost Li, life. lie felt it certainly au in vidious tusk to impute improper conduct to any its divislttal, but such had bleu that of r..Frere ;he thought.the House would he ttiarstinv; in their duty, if th'ey slid not speed& Move an Adtleees to hlejesty for the immediate recal of that Nlinicter ; it wee a ditty they owed to the memory of the it 'ls elin's:sand gallant officer Sir John ‘‘.bore. Ile con ceived it incumbent to bring the particular subject very swot under the consideration of the House.— With regard to these letters also, their importance was such as to remove every blame contrived to be attached to the contbict of that lamented Corn mender, and clearly to thew it eau to Le imputed wholly tu auother quarter. The Earl of lava:strum. raid, he wished to be clearly tin lerstoed with respect tb what he had %hoed on a fanner occasion. It would be in their Lordships recollection he had not asserted the let ter' refentul to were of no importance, he inerely• 'teed, they would be timud tin t nin te r i„i; w i t h respect to Sir John Moore% further march from Salamanca, true it was, lie emertuined an opinion that Sir John Moore had .eted wustly under all circumstance , , in proceeding further at the time, but he wit, still lists-ed to dilTer from Noble Lords oppo,:te that Sir Moore was not led to do so by any letter sent to biro from Mr. Frere. When lie had also described the letters to be private, lie hal defiuesi in what way he meant 10 use that ex pression. He merely applied that word to the form in which they were received, and not•to the sub ject matter of their contents. He thought it pro per to rise for the purpose of giving thin explana tion, but he was not disposed to be drawn into any collateral discussion on this question, as next Fri day the whole of it would come before the House, the Noble Earl's (Grey) motion. Earl (lacy was surprised how any one could peruse the letters tell reed te, and the istisoers of Sir John Moore, and maintain that he hail not been driven aguinst his own inclination to march further than Silittillallea. If he recollected Correct )), what had been tooted by the Noble Secretary, respecting the letters being of a private nature, he celestially understood him to have expa-esad himself differently at the time. He was sorry Noble Lords on that side of the House had been Intl to suppose the objection t. their bei n g produced, retted upon their contents bring of a private nature. There could now, however, be no doubt the fatal eveut • of the catupaigo in Stalin, wail iu consequence of the inter£ rence of Mr. Frere with the conduet of Sir John Moore. The Earl of CARYSTORT, after having adverted to the !rapers on the table, inciitioned his having. been afe.ent fur a ant of health—and therefore he did not distinctly know whether any :notion haul been mule, similar to the n e e he intended to pro pose. He now gave notice he . should to-morrow move for a copy of all instruetions sent from Ills Majesty's Government to Mr. Frere ; for it was of great importance tosser:rutin tbe powers possess . ad by Mr. Frere, which anthonsed him to controul the conduct of a Coininauder. It was also men tioned, a particular person was the bearer of a message to Seleinaucts, yet his name was kept se cret, and was oinittl, by a blank in the printed paper. He could- not conceive why this person should not be named--but he would, to-morrow, suttee, lodes. he was previously i.ifurined, that it should Ire :bream:eel to the l louse. The Earl of Llvelteoot. could assure the Noble Lord, that no instructions were sent, whisai au thnosed Mr. Frere to cositroul the conduct of our military commender. • The commouicaf which took phase, was merely cole , e(iutAiL on our Minister being the political agent of the directions 'given - by the Government of that country. With respect to the name of the person, Noble Lords would coupe der it might lie attended with iucouveitience and in jury. if NI Misters were under the necessity of dis ci:vane the names of persous officially etnpinyed ; and for that reason he did not feel warraiited in naming the person alluded to. Earl GrtLY did not believe the Noble Earl (Carysfort) would be successful in the first part of his :notion. • after he himself had said :as Much re lative to the instructious sent to Mr. Freer: After all the papers which had been laid cm the Table, there wits so much information kept truck, be declared it was not possible for the House to m elee at a correct jartgruent on the whole of the pro ceeding«. There could be no inconvenience ree suiting from mentio ling this persou's name, for it was already known it was no ecret, yet it was said. beesiase it case might be itimuvenient to name a per tem' ar person, the information was refused; such inllginigt: was 11116000MIllg a Secretary of State. Lord AUCKLAND observed, it wits knows' who the person alluded to was: he should abstain from saying his name. but it might be very material melee all the eirrum.tences to know who. be was. whether a person sent from this country and attach . ed to Mr. Frcre's amts. or a person employed there, and whether he were a native of that couetry or a Freuch Officer. . TREATY MTN SPAIN. ViseottotStDl4ol.lll inquired if say motion would be made oe the Treaty which had been laid un the table I:v Ira Hajerty'o Ministers. Tlet * Earl of lavaavuot uliswered no ttlOtinti wes intended. browse it ass not usual sir precedent- - • ed unless the Treaty were attended by a message, but this was not theseaw with the present Treaty. PAULETT'S DIVORCE BILL. Counsel were culled to the Bar, and shortly stat ed the purport of the evidence they haul to adduce. its proof of the act ci adultery. • Witnesses were then called. and proceeded to state the circumstances, when the LordaChancellor observed, it would be requisite to postpone the fur. titer proceedings till Thursdayr-Adjourned. .. 747 . HOVSC OF COMAONS. On tie Motion of Me lIASTARD, the Bill far regotating • die ter& t roaerrottir, 80-tartly was I Cad a seamed time, mid *red to he a animal 1•41 on Frklity oust. Tt e t:s.r. nut an v at Wan named, " that the letter of Stir. era to the Savietary at Wm, oltieh had beat presented aide Mouse, might be withdrawn fo. the purpose <decli ne:hag I,ool e Irr,4l,llllity -v-.4treeil to. person Avon the l'llutip.ollire presented an account of the incidental Merin./ of the Stamp 0111.-e is Eagiauil and I Scotland, from the year lees, to the vear I aII9, hang the %fest period to which the woe tau he made out.--.otelered to hens the table. The paper presented to the House un OW 101 of April, relative to fir piker tokens awl the topper cora to 'reload, were ordered to be trrinted. On tbe sleben of Mr. CIitOICKR, the second ceding o f th e Irish Militia Completion Bill was postprap I to Fri hy mart. Mr. WMITIIIREAD presented a Petsturt against the re nerd of Susitkfield Market. Ordered to lie ou the table. Mr. PAWN ELL muisd, that the daimon prenoted to the Home misfire to the Inlaid Nov.glithoi of Ireland L. parri ed Ordered. Mr. War Talte.• n moved, that the Papers prenatal this day from the %mop tither be pristrd. o r .teeti A Messier Gout the House of Lord, nunatioeed, that their Lordships had cereal to the !loser seal Portsmouth Com pensation Diks, and several private Bills. Mr. Rost .3.1 lon the printing of certain • papers prese . asted to the I Liege on Friday laet, rela tive to our trade with Aim rice. •In doing this, lie took °evasion to observe, that frota there papers it would appear that oar exports to America had in. t:reoval metre the year Par, olthough many had anticipated that than Order. in Cosiest would he the total destruction of our trade; to quirt their fears, it wa., itereseary to stele .that more than SO AM' Ind left this cauntry iii lAtin than in 1807, making au increase its tonnage of uo less that. UB,OOO tons. Mr. Pettit Moose mit", lee knew not what the Right 'I loii.(;eutleuein meant by making this kiwi of htateinent. lie had!), fore i(iven his opinion upon the direct of the Orders. in (,orated OM our manu factories, and repented that the weavers were ruined fur want of trade. • Mr. ROM: replied, that the moms hc, had quoted • had been Oil the ;able stneefralav, and were there fume open to the inspectiou and observation of eve ry our. Mr. Pont Moose observed, that in emote queuee of the exportation of silk manufacture being stopped, the silk weavers of Coventry Wiese tactually starving. The papers were then ordered to be printed. RAIITHFIELD MARKET. Sir Cusitics Phlca moved the order of the day for the second reading of the Bill, for the removal of Smithfield Marks t. Mr. Alderman Conue rose to oppose the Bill, although his of jections had been iu a great d eg r ee removed, by the jurisdictiou of the city being ex tended to the new market. Still, however, he felt it•his duty to oppose the farther progress of the Bill, as the inhabitants of Smithfield sad its vici nity were against the removal, it bring prejudicial to their interests ; mid because the inhabitants of the nei t tlibiandroisd where it was to be removed to, felt that it would equally hurt the:d. He conclud ed by move% that the Bill should be reed a second time this day six months. Mr. ilanaw MARTIN opposed the Hill. Ile conceived. were it allowed to pass, that it would be a great injury to the charity of the Foundling Hos pital. as well um to the peewees pneseseing estates iu that neighleeirhood. The streets were genteel. clean, cud quiet, and the value of bases bud great ly increased. If this ineasore were carried. it would change the character of the place, and hoes., would sink, instead of risiug in value. The injury it would be to iudividieds was immense. Oue lady alone, (Mrs. Doughty) possessed from 110 to 140 houses in the neighbourhood. the leases of which would expire in the year 1811. when she would be greatly enriched ; but if thin bill passed, it was very likely the houses might reinniii empty; so that is this individual Moue, the lose would ainniait to several thousand poundi. • Mr. Host seed, that a necessity rebated for the removal of tht market was beyond all doubt.— There was not sufficient spice to transact the busi ness. This was felt whelythere were but 100,000 hoists brought runually into the market, the num ber now amounted to 150,000 ; the conseqiience was, that the cattle became injured by their tramp ling rni each other, and the buyers were unable to view them. When the City decided to enlarge the market, they found it impossible to increase it more theta two acres; it at present occupies a space of 41 acres, and • they wish to make it I'2. It was necessity which induced them to wish for its remoi al, ms it was quite contrary to their inte rest. Although the place they had pitched upon might he objectionable, still there were two other plates whiclecould not be so. • He thought there WAS a degree of severity in getting rid of the Bill this way towards the city, which they did not merit, mid expressed his anxiety that the Bill might be read a second time, and allowed to go to a Coin. mittee, 'there all objections might be Answered. 1 Mr. Howie* wished to state a single fact, that the City had already contracted for this objection able spot of grouted. His whole objection to the Dill went to the !date proposed. Mr. Lireirros expressed himself evilest the further progress of the Bill. Sir Coots! Mace supported the Bill. He spoke in so low a lone of voice, that we Were only able to collect, that the city acre anxious to ea. large the mnrkrt rather than remove it, and urged the necessity of the Buil being allowed to go to a Committee. Mr. C. Ileecateson objected to its being al lowed to go to a Committee. He feared, if it were eft to the decision of a Committee, that the spot xed upon would be chosen. He was at a lose to know why they should pitch upon this particular place, which was so particularly objectionable. Mr. ROC: said, that the City of London had abandoned the spot they had first fixed aeon, and hail iliotructed their Counsel tip that effect. Mr. l'ossoNLY said, that when the City of Lon don expressed their wish to improve and beautify the metropolis, he felt a great desire to forward their views ; but he hoped tiny would nut attempt such Improvement at the expense 'if private pro perty. He was willing •to accede to the second reading of tire bill, lint would not pled.ze himself to approve of any place winch the Committee might adopt. Mr. Mxttisit objected to the hilt. If the evil wed oirmiAe4 from one place, it was not unlikely it might become equally objectionable. A place bail been named, which would sebously affect the Gray's lull Society. • Mr. FULLER thought the City of London s hould point out the spot .where they would remove the market, befeee they had his vote. IJe had no right to trust them, is they would not trustt him.— (A laugh.) Mr. Alderman SHAW spoke at some length in support of the bill, but in too kw a tone of voice to , be dietinefly heard in the gallery.—He thought all the objections might be done away in the Commit tee. A place be, front of Gray . * Inn hail been chosen, on a declivity particularly well suited for the purpose, from whence drains could be readily formed to carry off the dirt into the Fleet river. Mr. BARHAM said, hit objections went to the way in which the bill originated. It was introducra without the parties iuterested having notice of their intention, and wwau injustice to those individuals. How wee it to be remedied ? to be changed to souse other place,• where the people had notice of it? But then it was said, their itnerests might be guarded by regututions. He thought it the wisest course to reject the Dill altogether. The mode lie conceived fittest for reinoviiig such au annoyance us this market, would be to appoltit a'Cometittee of indifferent perions, who might lay down sonic plan, *tech could have the effect desired. Ile believed such an annoyauce was tint to be found in the hurt of soother city io the world. Mr. WHI THREAD said, that one worthy Alder man hail proposed erecting hers, to keep off the cattle bruin the Foundling hospital; and another had devise l a inuthud of taking away the stench ; lint they did not point out the, nay ts., keep off the stench and noise from the streets ("1/urse6e. The ATIORNEY.GEN real. said the City officers should be sent with the cattle, to keep them quiet (.1 laugh). An Hon. Member hail mentioned the great improvements which were to berflected by this change ; maguificent houses were to be erect ed close to the market, and tine streets were to be formed but he 'ribbed to knew whethei they were intruded for the beasts, as he believed noise ocher would inhabit them—(4 laugh.). The interest of the city was stated to he to keep the market whew lit is, end he should certainly app its removal.— The Bill ought tee be rejected Gum the loarthen it would impose on the inhabitants where they would remove it. The reasons urged for sending it to u Committee were those which convinced him it ought not to go, as it left a chance of others ap proviug what he might particularly wish to con demn. The measure itself was extremely oppress ive, as it went to injure a number of persons with out rimy notice, who could have no appeal, and to remove the mai Let to the destruction of some of the best lions:a to the metropolis. The question being loudly called for, the gallery was cleared, but we understand the Bill was with , drawn without a division. - IRISH CURRENCY. Mr. Paltaat.t. rose to make his promised motion n the as‘iiiiilatuni of the carreney of Ireland to that of Great Britain. He said, that one iticonve silence attending the difierence of the currencies was its contributing to maintain a feeling of repa ration and distniction between the iiilnaliitalits of these countries very incousistetat with their mould prospetityi That it gave the respective parts of the Uniteillsingdoin a character that belonged rather to countries foreign to each other, than to members of the same empire ; a character very inconsistent with the spirit of real union, and the true interests of the people. he had always eonsidered the Act of Union us the must incotoplete measure that could be framed to meet the ohjsct it had in view, and time correctness of this opinion was illustruted by the present state of the currencies. Though he had opposed that measure because it was thought its repeal would be essential to the pieservatipu of the em pi rc, i f the expectations encoaraged by it were not accomplished ; still, however, he was anxious that every thing should be done to prosluee an unanimity in intxrest and in feeling between the two countries, and for that ressois, -ailionit others, he was delirous to see this difference of currencies, so strong an emblem of distinct nations, completely • done sway. Another inconvenience arising f it, was the restraint it 'you the commer cial intercourse of the too countries—a restraiiit quite inconsistent with that perfect freedom of trade, which is always necessary, iu order that trade may be carried on to the :zresitt-st possible advanta.,r. For, certainly, this iliikrence of cur rencies, circumstanced as Crest Britain and Ire land are in regard to melt other, did form an ob struction of considerable effect upon the free circu lation of the capital, labour, and industry of both countries. For tho' the operatimi of converting sums of money of one currency into sums of the other, is a verysimple clue, and perhaps to those accustomed to it presents Ito difficulty whatever, still it nevesiuerily must he to all other persons a source of doubt re epecting the result of commercial speculations con nected with Ireland; and thus it must contribote to deter many from cultist-king in enterprises, which would be highly advantageous to'such a country as Ireland, so much in need of an adequate capital to give effect to its natural resonxis. But the prin cipal inconvenience that resulted from the present state of the currencies, was the existence of an ex change between the two countries; such a thing not being known between any two places having a common circulating medium. Ile should endea vour to prove this by reference to facts and good authorities • and if the getting rid of the exchange would he die consequence of the assimilation, lie felt sure that this alone would justify this measure. Exchauee , was said to be at par between England and Ireland, when a MI. hill, payable in London, can be purchased in Dublin for fool. hit. ed. Ex cept under very particular circumstances, the ex change has been at or nearly at par. In 1804 it was 9 per cent. against Ireland, and two months ago it was st per cent. against England. Three fluctuation* are attended with great divedvantages to trade, and great loss to those inslirirlissils. who have occasion to remit money from one country to the other. He could not approve of the doctrine • that the remittance, of rents to Irish absentees wets the rause of the exchange being against Ireland,be ' cause as these remittances are annual an d c o ns t an t. if thedoctri-ie was sound, the exchange would al ways he against Ireland, which is seldom the case. That the balance of teete alone affected the ram of exchange, Was also a doctrine which lie could out ••• . . ateede to. beraose in all calculations of this kind the ruins of v exported and imported was omitted ; awl further, because varietions.iii the vas Our of the currency of either country has a CUIINICkf. able effete upon exchange. Ile conceived diet the hest way ot replanting upon what she rates of ex change depend, was to say that they depend upiet the proportion which the hilly eichange in the market bear to the demand for them ; and that if it is aueuipted to look for a more radical explawi bon the endeavour will altogether fail. All then that is wanting to settle the rides of exchange at a fixed stun between the two conutries, is to provide a due proptirtioti betatteii the supply and demand of' thetn. But as this is impracticable, then it be comes necessary to try to hod out some additioual means of making reiuittaiices. Now this is disco- erred in the use of bunk mites. - harder the ipiaiiiy of being current for die sums they represent in beta/ ossuaries ; for so Form as the bank paper of ouel place is current in the other place, or Call be you vernal 'Hite paper that is so corrent,tnen tor West, of remitting is not roidined to bills of es:eh:to e only, but compost vif the whole paper current_ If then Batik of England potter was current Ireland, and Bank of lit land paper couvertil Lao it at par, any person having oi.cusioo to 1114 a remittance to Loudon, would be aide tc. do at no other expeuse that, the postaei• el the tette conveying his notes, a supply at' gre 114titift of mini dance would alwuts be build eyed to the d meal for it, and the existialce of au 'cacheti. would be entir-ly done aa ay. .Ir. Yarnell sad that it was very easy to illustrate the accuracy • thisreasoniug, rattan aaaa ig how matters of ti sort were conducted between London and Lir pool, between which Places there is it great Ire: - A person in Liverpool' having ream w it to urn!. remittance to London, can do so eitiser bs a bill f exchusige, or by bank paper. equally torrent at '- verpool and at Loudon, and therchirt• not being I pentlaut open the quantity of bills of exchan twit having such paper at his cornmeal, he !a make his remittance eithotit any loss. And, tl as the only dithaeutv in the relative eircutastui .6 of Liverpool awl Dublin is, that one has a conuu •11 circulating medium with London, std that e oteer has not ; is it not equally clear that, i common medium is estab bslied. the ezchatige a II cease? The Honourable Member raid he is aware that the. power of converting Bank of I - Lind paper into Bank of ENiglaud paper would u t he a necessary result of the assimilation of the co , but that such a power must in some degree depot upon the cowduct of the proprietors of the Bank Ireland- Ile could not, however, believe tha , when every thing was done that was necessary • be dune in order to do away the exchange, ext ep what they had it in their power to do, they wou: so far oppose the public iuterest as to refuse to consent to par their notes with Entik of Eitelaild notes, or in Lilts, payable in Lotman, at certayt kaad-rates. Lu Scotland, the clattered banks Ind done away the exchange that used to exist between Scotland and Eitel:llAL by takaig such steps; and nd it appears by the Report of the Committee o f' Otto ' How.e, who were appoiuted in 1004 to inv stigma the stun. id the currency in Ireland, that Clary did -no without incurring any loss. Besides it still be 10 the interest of the Bank of Ireland to d * every thing ill their power to de away the ceeleiroge. as wadi as of the Bank of Enghual ; beetawie. when ever the reetrictiou of cash puyments is taken elf; they will he exposed, as they ever have been, to constant demands upon them for 61111 N NI to remit from one country to the ether, as the exvlialige varies, unless they get rid of it. Had it not been for the impolitic measure of renewing the Charter last year to the Bunk of Ireland, the doing away the exchange might have been uaude sure or,. OS the Bank would have beets williug to 131 Vs made the necessary stipulations for effecting it, sooner tl•an base lust their Charter. As it is, limo. ever, earn if they should rerwle to pee their mites with Bank of England notes ; the cum acv 'of the latter may, io a great measure, be obtained ill Irels itl, by makiiig, them legal trotters, equally, soil to the same extent with the notesof the Batik of Ireland. The iminetinite effect of this rtsola lion would be the impassibility of IRO exchtmee untisvourable to England, because uo one would go to 'Change. and give a premium fur a Bill on Out whet) he could get a brook note without a pre mium, and thus one-half of the business of doing eau) the exchange would be effected. But just ill proportion to the quantity of Batik of England notes sent to !militia, the means of remitting front Ireland to Englatid would Le facilitated, anti the tentleftcy of the exchange to become utifavouniblis to Ireland lie counteracted; soul, therefore, this simple regulation, without the aid oldie Bank of Ireland, would do it vast dent towards abolishing the exchauge altogether. The waking Bank of Bug-. land pryer a legal tender in Ireland, could not he attended with any loss to the partS.• obliged to take it, because the only case that can happen to make Bank of England paper of less vulue in Ireland than Bank of Ireltoid paper,is the exchange beirn; against England ; but it has been shewn that thi can never octet so long as Bunk of Englsud piper is a legal tender in Ireland. Under these ciscuni stances, the Hon. Member said that he felt he was warranted to infer, that the assimilation of the currencies, if assisted with a regulation to make Batik of England paper is legal tender in Ireland. would completely do away the exchange between • the two countries. Ile then proceeded to suppert whit be had said. by several authorities. Primal' Butler, wkilst Itliiiister for Ireland, in a letter is Sir Robert Walpole, says, " there is no doubt but it would be absolutely right to reduce the Englisu shilling to 112 d." Mr. Burrower,. Mr. Paget, and Air. Harms') have given it in evidessee before the Committee alreedy mentioned, that if a eftmlEoll circulating medinin was established between the two countries, exchange would not he taken ant at its regnlrr rouse. This say, in than Report, that " if it Isbell lie thought expedient to equalize the currency by mukang shillings roman. only 12d. your Committer submit the advantag , of doing so." On the head of Exchange th. say. what is particularly etrorig in support the foregoing ream • g, " Your Committee t ar Hot entertain a doubt of the practicability el . what they recomm e nd ( t h e nutkiog Bank 01 England taper current ill lelsiol) nor. that at ought to bare the sure effect of redwing es • change to par. In case of such au mat, t!.e: . . . . • • et.' -...':- ..:.:•.' .*:;.: . . . .• , . : .'s '.•, . • - • '' . . • ' , . • . . • • •• • '.' . . . • • HOUSE OF COMMONS. might become equally objectionable. A place tail ateede to. hemline in all calculations of this rind occurred tta him , as they rose out of the papers • been namcd, which would setiously affect the )he radio of v exported and imported was • already sitlunitted to their Lordships consideration; oit gie Motion of llr liAltrAttD, the BIN far regulating Gra .. jut, Society, . omitted ; mud further, because varietions. in the va. after a great deal had been alleged by the Noble • a se wenneeeroiee De , tarily was teed it sound tolle, and .i ~. Dr. r utLER thought the City of London should lue of the temerity of either country has a considis. Secretary- relenting the letters of Mr: Freest being gene er t te t e rev „,„o,„ on F e el e y eest , i of point out the spot evlierb they would remove the able Mien upon exchange. Ile conceived that the • private, and that whew produced they would prove ,__Tts,itur Ana at IVAR ! iatnctl, " that the letter . Ili to the Sevretal at "","'lnd' 1144 Lice% Presented market, berme they had lint vote. He had no hest way of replanting upon what she rates of ex. not important. Oli the contrisry, now they were Illt, re . the term Hewn might be *Autumn 10. the purpose of cut- ,rig httrust ti they • Id t t t bum: l •• that they to _ tem, II sou no rust change 1 i petal , was to sit) produced. in . his op• rlf all other Niters oil ... . a.. .in ..„,,',,.,..:,.„ 1 ,,,i ty ... 4 „,,,d to. the proportion which the bill, t I exchange in the table they were the most important ; soil he could not ace •.1 oitii the deumninittion attached to them a perm.' nom the stleanedeire preeented an account of , (Ailmig A is i • i ) ,. the incideotslexpeuace or the States ' Otre.e i• En e tawl end M r . i num! SHAW . spoke at some length . in market beer to the demaisil for th em ; and that if by Noble Lords %spread!, of their hong letter of Scotland, (min the year mos, to th e e.ir . I ally, twoi , e e rt.e support of the lull, in the too ii low a tour H. of vs:lee to , it is shimmied to look for a more radical umlaute- e thought all nail the cattlemen. will altogether fail. Alt then Tat et period to which the sum eau lie made out. —Or I tut be dietinefly heard in go ery. • a private nature. they had Certoluly exhileited the objections might be done awry in the Commit- that is wanting to settle the rater of exchange tit A Neely extraordinary &laud in o'nr . Minister it Ma- to lablr.e.'..ted tie the House ou the loth of April, . • see. A place en,. front of Gray's Inn hail been fixed sum between the two countries, is to provide chid, who had written in err very peculiar terms to: relative to the piker tokens awl Ilse copper cow iti Irelatul, (+mien, cm a dec livity particularly well suited for a dime propbrnoii between the supply and demand Sir Jobn Moore, whereby that illustrious Gentral; wee ordered to be printed. Oa s b ese m,,,, o r m r ,ns ao men, theseeend westing of the the purpose, from 'silence drains could lie readily of them. But as this is impraetieuble, then it be- eves involuntarily intlueed to march 'nether tbran: formed to carry off the . dirtinte the Fleet river. corned necessary to try to tied out wine additioual Salineanea, tied imfortunately . for his co:tufty. or. track_ Sillitile°mP l v it° " Bill w" I".""P'r Ito t'ri'm mitt. : Mr. BARHAM Sititi,hes objections went to the way means of making remittatices. Now this is disco- terwards lost Lie life. lie felt it certainly au is- we WOITOREAD td s Petit:on aga i nst star re- m which the bill or i g inated.. It was introdu . cel er red its the use of bunk raitese haeiiig the quaint Morn et staithficht Slake. ordered to he oe me table. vicious tusk to impute improper conduct to any its - Mr. PAK,. r id. initial, that the Attuants pi-seemed to the Howse rotative to the 'Mead :timpanist ut Ireland h, priut • without Sit e parnee interested haring notice of their of being current for the sums they represent iii beet dieitlttal, but such had heels that of NI r..Eteres ; lie el Ordered. intention, and WWI On injustice to those individuals. cmtutries ; for so ennui us the bank paper of out 1 • thoughethe House would he Mititinn its their ditty, if they slid not speed - 11r Move an Add -e to His M i f ; u l .. l. Is How wait to remedied . to lie is tonged to place is current in the other place, or cast be con it t Lr e a st e mi es . ,n,rttioreveilb,.. printed.thatebeP.ar=i steel this it b e i 1 I.• .. .- '7 - 77. _.__. their wine other place, • where the people had notice of vented into paper unit is so corrent. trim tile meant Majesty for the immediate ail of that Nlinister ; da y • A Message hum the notate of theme euncneirwo, mai ? But then it was said, their imereets might be of remitting is not unlined to bills of es:elem.; it was a ditty they owed to the memory of the it us- Limb/tips had censed to Me isomer nisi Purisasuuth Coen trios* and geliant officer Sir John *'• tome. Ile con- peesetion Diks, anal several private Bills. guarded by regtoutions. He thought it the wisest only, bin compose eat' the whole miner (sorrels: ceived it incumbent to bring thieperticuler su b ject . Mr. Bose -ed f or t h e p r inting o f cert ai n • course to r e j ec t the b ill alto g ether. The mode lie If them Batik of England ogler was current very soma under the consideration of the Notre. — papers presented to the I loose on Friday host. rola- einiceired fittest for removiug each au annoyance us Ireland, and Bank of Ireland paper couvertil• : With regard to these letters also, their importance live to our trade with Anti ries. flu donig this, lie this market, would be to almond a 'Cominittee of into it at par. auy person liuvin t oi.cissioo to 1114 - seas such as to remove every blame contrived to be t oo k occasion to observe, that froin there papers it indifferent maims. who might lay down some plan. a remittance to Loudon, would be aide todo attached to the conduct of that lament:it Com- would appear that one exports to America had in. %ranch could . hare the effect desired. Ile believed at no other exp e n s e that: the postage el the tette b . ' mender, mid clearly to chew it was to tee imputed crt . "" metre the year 1807, although many had such a n annoyance was le e to b e f oun d i n th e heart teaseling his notes, ii suppli •11 gee estates of mini wholly flu another quarter. anticipated t h at thit Order,. in Council would be of soother city iii the world. tatice would always lie 2 IMO equal to the d The Earl of Livettruot. eats', he wished to be the total d es truction i d our t ra d e ; t o ( t oilet their Mr. WHI IMRE A D amid, that one worthy Alder- tumid for it. anti the existialce of an anchan• n, clearly understood with respect tb what he hall frees, it was nereveary to elate .that more than 30 p Man hail proposed erecting hats, to k e ep off the would Le entirely done aory. %Ir. Parasell eat atuted on a Inener occasion. It would be in their A ries h a d l e ft this. cauntry in laud than in 1807, cattle irsim the Foundling Hospital; and soother that it was very easy to illustrate the accuracy Lordships reco lle c tion he had not asserted the let. Busking au harems! iir tonnage of 0 0 less 61111 had devised a ',Whorl of biking assay the stench ; this t easonia g , by exnu n 111 l ig h oe wetter , o f t i tete refereed to were of no importance, he inerely• 08•000 tous• lint they did lint point out the miy to keep off the sort were emulated between London and Lie stated. they would be limns' no t, me te r ed ; with Mr. Peteu Mecum said, lee knew not what the stench and nom from the streets (A /aegis). pool, between which Places there is a great trw . redact to Sir John Moore's further march from Right jloinGeutleuein meant by making thi s ki te ' The Aerensiao-HEN nu al. Baia The City of f icers A person in Liverpool' having octet eii to evil. n a h unanee , t rue it na y, li e eu t e rt u ined an opinion of statement. lie had lii fore . Fiven his opiuiou upon should be seat with the cattle, to keep them quiet remittance to Lond o n, ca n d o se ei th er I,y a b i ll -t th a t si r :el m Moore he ad wed wisely under all the effect of the Orders in Council •11 our menu- (.1 lamgh). An Hoes. Member hail mentioned the exchusige, or by bank piper. es p ia ti ensren t a t e. circumstencee in proceeding further at the time, factories, and repented that the weevers were ruined great improvements which were to lies4lected by verpool and at London, and therefore not being I - but he was still diseteed to differ from Noble fur want of trade. . this change i maguitieent houcec erre to be erect- 'pendant lowan the quantity of hills of entail •., a . Lords oppnete t h at Sir .t. Moore was tint led to do ' Mr. ROM replied, that the papers hche4 quoted ed close to the market, and tine streets were to be but having sued. paper at his commaioi, lee so by an y t e rse r sen t t o biro frou 3 Mr. Frere. Whet had been oil tile /able aneefrulav• amid were there- formed ; but he wished to know whether they were mike his remittance eithoot an y l oo p. A n d, ti ~ lie haul also described the letters to be private, he fore open t o th e inspection said observation of eve- intruded for the beasts, as he befit real none rinser as the only difference in the relative eircutastes • I had dehued in what way he meant to use that ex- ry our. would inhabit them—(i! Iwiegh.). The interest of of Liverpool mud Dublin is, that one has a cuniu •ii pression. He merely applied that word to the form Mr. PETE. MOORE olrlerreil, that in crime- the c ity was s e i sed t o h e , to k eep th e ma r ket where circulating medium with London. rill that i n which th e y wer e r e c eived, and nano the sub- queirce of the exportation of silk utanufecliire I it is, and he should eertuinly app sae its retnenalese. other hes out ;i s it n ot equally cl ear th a t, i , Je t t matter of their cements. He thought it pro- being stopped. the silk weavers of Coventry weir The Bill ought is be rejected from the barthen it common medium is estabbslied, the eich aime s i per to rise for the purpose of giving this explaua- actually etarving • would imp ooe on the iuhabitants where they would cease. The Honountble Member will he i• tion, but he was not disposed to be drawn into any The papers were then ordered to be printed. remove it. The reasons urged for sending it to u aware that the. power of converting Bank of I • collateral discussion on this question, as next Fro. RMITHFIELD MARKET. those it left a elmi hosewhtilicio,.e of nvitice o d o him it Laid paper into Bank of Iniglaud paper would u 11 1 day the whole of it would come before the House, Sir CUSULWA tattles moved the order of the day C ou o g ni : !I t o te t e te to w g e o, sothers ape he a necessary result of the aseimilation of the co •i the Noble Earl's (Grey) motion. for die second reading ref the Bill, for the removal proving u-liat lie might particularly wish to con- but that such a power must in some deeree derei Earl Gags was surprised how any one could of Smithfield Market. demo. The measure itself was extremely oppress- upon the coselitet of the proprietor* of the Bank Peruse the letters ten reed tu, and the uaiswers of Mr. Alderman CONDE rose to oppose the Bill. ire, as it went to injure a number of persons with- Ireland. He could not, however, b e lieve the t Sir 'Jolla Moore. and mail - item that he had not although hie of had been iu a great degree out may notice, who could h a v e no appeal, and to when every thing was done that was necessary t Tern drivers *truing his own inclination to march removed, by the jurisdictiou of the city being ex- I remove the mai Let to the destruction of some of the be done ha order to do away the exchaoge, ex. ellt further than 5411111141104 If he recollected 'correct- tended to the new market. Still, however, he felt 1 best lions. ein the metropolis, what they had it in their power to do, they violet jy what had been meted by the Noble Secretary, it - his duty to °Witte the further progress of the The question being loudly called for, the gallery in far oppose the public interest as to refuse h r e specting the letters being of a private netare, he Bill, as the inhabitants of Smithfield and its vita- . wits cleared, but we understood the Bill war with- consent to pay their notes with n eil k of E ug lato • certainly understood him to hare expeenan himself nity were sootiest the remove!, it bring prejudicial i drawn without a ilitisiini. notes, or ill . 1.111,4, miyable in !Amnon, at Cetill,,, . differently at the time. He was sorry Noble Lords to their interests ; and because the inhatiainets of ' ' IRISH CURRENCY. fitted-eaten lu Scotland, the churtered banks ih. On that side or the House had been led to suppose the neiehbourlnirsd where it was to be removed to, i Mr. PARNELL rose to wake his promised motion done away the exchange that used to exist hetwer the objection to their bring produced, rested upon felt that it would esitidly hurt then. lie condiul• !On the K l..i dl itotio l l of the c urrency of Ir e land to Scotland and Euttiatel, by takaig such steps• all their contents being of a private maitre. There ed by moving that the Bill should be read a second I that of Great Britain. He said, that one uiconve- it appears by the Report of the Committee of' ib enuld WWI however, be no doubt the fatal recut time this dry six months, n silence atteisdiog the difierenee of the currencies Muse, who were appoluted in 1804 to Mrs *title of the eninpaigo in Stalin, wits in eonsequeoce of Mr. Illson't MARTIN opposed the Bill. Ile I was its contributing to maintain a feeling of reps- the stale of the currency in Irelasid, that tii r ey di the interff renee of Mr. Frees with the cot:duet of conceived. were it allowed to pose, that it would be ration aid di e n uc tio n b e t we e n th e i t d ra hi taet e o f so without incurring any loss. Besides it will I bin John Moore. *reat* injury to the charity of the Foundling Hos- these countries very ineousisteut with their tit:steel to the iutereat of the Bank of Ireland to d * ere The Earl of Ceersvostr, after Karin;, adverted pital, as well is. to thee persons possewitig estates ii prosperityJ 'Clot it gave the respective parts cif the tiling 111 their power to den away the eeclueoge. i to the ! m i ters on the table, mentioned Id, having. that neighletrnrhoOd. The streets were genteel, i Unitedasimplom a character that belonged rather well as of the Bank of Englund ; Lemmas. wile i ' been absent fur 'sant of health—and therefore be clean, null quiet, and the value of hovses hurl great- to countries foreign to each other, than to Members ever the restrictiou of cash puyments is tuber) se did not distinctly know whether soy motion had ly increased. If this mealiore were carried. it i of the same empire ; a character very inconsistent they will he exposed, as they ever hitee been, I been mule, similar to the nee he intended to pro- would change the character of the place, and hones with the spirit of rat al union, and the true intere s ts constant demands upon them for VIM 1111 to rem . pose. He now gave notice he, should to-morrow would *ink, instead of rising in value. The injury of the people. hr had always considered the Act from one country to the lather, as th e mediate, more f or a co py o f all instructions sent fr o m Ills it would be to itulividirds was itoottitre. Oue of Union as the. must incomplete measure that varies, unless they get rid of it. Had it not be Majesty's Government to Mr. Prere ; for it was ledy alone, (Mrs. Doughty) possessed from 110 to 1 could be framed to meet the ohject it h a d in view, for the impolitic measure of renewing the Chub . of great importance tosacertain the pitmen possess- 140 houses in the neighbourhood. the leases of I anti this correctness of this opinion was illustrund last year to the Bunk of Ireland, the doing awe ad by Mr. Frere, which anthonsed him to controul which would expire in the y e ar MI I. whe n sh e b y t h e pr es e n t s tate of the currencies. Though be the exchange might have been made sure a the conduct of a Coininauder. It was also men- would he - greatly enriched ; but if thaw bill passed, had opposed that measure because it wa s thought as the Bank would have been willitig to hat Coned, a particular person was the tearer of a it was very likely the houses aught retain', empty; its repeal would be essential to tile meeervatiou of made the necessary stipulations for effecting i dressage to Sitlainauces, yet his name was kept se- so that tea this individual alone, the loss would the empire,if the expectations encouraged by it seem sooner tl•an have lust their Charter. As it is, lee cret. and was mantel, by a blank in the printed ainoeut to several thousand patina. • I not accomplished ; still. however, he was anxious ever, eseu if they should refuse to pan the mom He could- not conceive why thi s p erson Mr. Ho s e sl id, th a t A ne c e s sity e xi s t e d f or th e t h at every t hi ng s h ou ld b e d one t o prelude an notes wits Bank of England notes ; the comet should not be named -- but he would, to-morrow, rionoral of th market was beyond all doubt.— I unielimity in interest and is feeling betw e ee the tw o -of the latter may, in a great measure, be obtains g l ove, ordeal he Wilt I )IVVIDU ! tIy informed, that it There was not sufficient space to transact the bush- countries, and for that remote -a lo o t 4 other s , he' tie Irdu id, by makilig, then, legal tett:Jere. espied • should he discloses: to the House. nese. This was felt when there were but 100,000 was &emus to see this differe n ce of currencies, su, s o d to the same extent with the notes of the Bat The Earl of Livseecn. could assure the Noble hoists brought mumally into the market, the nutn• strong an emblem of distinct nations, completely of Ireland. The unineinite effect of this revel Lord, that no instructions were sent, wham au- her now amounted to 150,000 ; the consequence done sway . . Another imonvenienee arising f• lion would be the impossibility of an exettiee o thnsed Mr. Frere to colitroul the conduct of oar was, that the cattle became injured by their Int into it, wall the restraint it imposed imoti the commer unfavourable to England, because uo one would i A military commender. • The commouicat which lung en each other. and the buyers were unable to cial intercourse of the tell countries—a rest ra i i n to 'Change. and give a premium fur a Bill on Du took place, was merely coleieiiiitiit on our Silltilatt tit,' them. When the City decided to enlarge the I quite inconeistent with that perfect freedom of liar, whom he could get a [seek note without apr being the political agent of the directions given - by market. they funnel it impossible to iacrease it trade, which is always necessar y , oi order th a t toium, and thus one -hitif of the business of don the Government of that eountry. With respect to none them two acres ; it at presein occupies a trade may be (swim u ' oto the ereatint pos s ible stein the exchange would lie effeeted. But it the name of the per,on, Noble Lords would come- space of 4a n acres . and • they wish to make it ns.— " A dvantage. For, certainly, des distieence of car.. in proportion to the quantity of Batik of Eng( ai T,' derit might be attended with iuconyesiienee and in- It was ninevaity which induced them to wish for maces, circumstanced as Crest Briteisi and Ir e - notes sent to Irelaud, the means of remitting fro jury, if NI Misters were tinder the necessity of die. its remota!, es it was quite contrary to their intr.. land are in regard to retch ot h er, did form un ole Irelnnd to Etiglaud would Le facilitated, mid t do-ring the names of permits officially employed ; rev. Although the place they had pitched upon I *unction of reansidevabie effect upon the free circ l e. tendency of the exchange to become utifavoursi and for that reason he did not feel wurtasited in might be ohjentionable, still there were two other lotion of the capital, labour, and industry of both to (retold lie counteracted; and, therefore, t) naming the person entitled to. places whichneuld not lie so. •He thought there countries. For dm' the operatien of converting stuns sim p le regulation, without the aid of the Bank Earl GOAT did not believe the Noble Earl was a degree of severity in getting rid of the Bill l of money of one currency into sums of the other, is ' Ireland, would de a vast deal towardsabulishing I (Carysfort) would be succesefisl in the first part of this way towards the city, which they did not merit, verysinsple one, and perhaps to those accustomed to exchange altogether. The tasking Bank of Eta Isis :notion. • after he himself hied said so Much re- and expressed his anxiety that th e Bill might b e .it presents tio difficulty whatever, still it nes•essierily land paper a legal tender in Ireland, could not lative to the instructions sent to Mr. Free.; read a second time, and allowed to go to a Coin- must be to till other persons a source of doubt re- attended with any lose to the par obliged to to After all the pipers which had beets laid on the ruittee, whertiall objections might beeniswered. speeting the result of commercial speculutions con- it, because the only case that eau happen to ma Table, there was so much information kept back, Mr. HOOPER wished to state a single, fact, that fleeted with Ireland; and thus it must contribute t o Bank of England paper of less value in Irels he declared it was not possible for the House to au- the City had already contracted for this objection- deter many from emberking in enterprises, which titan Bank of Irelmid paper,is the exchange bei eve at a correct jartgruent on the whole of the pro. able spot of ground.. His whole objection to the tomtit be highly advantageous to-such a country a s against England ; hut it has bee■ shewn thus t ceedinge. There could be no inconvenience or e Bill went to the !duce proposed. Ireland, so much in need of an adequate eapitel td can never mien( so long as Bunk of England pit suiting from mentio sing this person's name, for it Mr. Ltrrirros expressed himself against the give effect to its natural resonsces. But the prin. is a legal tender in Ireland. Under these ciscu was Already known it was no secret, yet it was said. I further progress of the Bill. copal inconvenience that relished from the present stances. the lion. Member said that he felt he i bemuse it case might be incouvenient 10 name a I Sir Coors! Penn; supported the Bill. lie state of the currencies, was the centime. of a n ex. warranted to infer, that the assimilation of ' psi-neuter pertain, the information was refused; such 1 spoke in - so low a mar of voice, that we Were only change between the two countries; such a thi ng currencies, if assists-4 with a regulatien to mi inligltilgt: 1 , 104 imbecommg a Secretary of State. able to collect, that tile city were aneinus to eu• not being known between any two places having as Brisk of Englund paper*. legal tender in leek Lord AUCKLAND observed, it w•• known who large the mnrket rather than remove it, und urged • common circulating medium. lie should rodent- would completely dri noire the exeleinge betty th e person a lluded to was: he should ab s tain from the necessity of the Bail being allowed to go to a sour to prove this by reference to feels and gooel • the two colititries. Ile then proceeded to cup saying his name. but it might be very material Committee. I authorities • and if the getting rid of the exchange , what be had Mid. by several authorities. Prim tinder all the eircumstences to know who, be was. Mr. C. lionestoson objected to its being al- weight he dre consequence of the assimilation, lie Butler, whilst Minister for Ireland, in a trite whether a person seriarnenthiseountry and attach- lowed to go t o o Committee, He feared, if it were felt sure that this alone Would justify the measure. Sir Robert Walpole, says, "there is no doubt el to Mr. Frcre's mute, or a penmen employed thene, left to the decision or a Committee, that the spot Exchange pus said to be at par between England it would be absolutely hold to reduce the Sag