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4 it ) t ti ' 6) '4l ; 4' t w ii I I. :I fr I I~ . ~~ r: ~ ' - - t ' " 'think we am overthmw at nor . arystern co nncient and tete:oils .. _..., e_._ year se the motet desirable objects to be acamtplished ; and I think I omelet that we ehouldmeseceed begrattutl stages. that we may Inve they will see, that, though something may be left unnoticed, more an opportunity of wsching with an anx &oust and-tatieot soothe pro bs. bees doi.c than they had amicipated. First in oeder then, it is s of the experimest from its beginning to its consommation e rejoined by the Order tn (Send', that the shocking and uneeent , t r t r hat then are we abet to do? We shall erannience with loan timetiateuen of females by the whip shall be entirely abolish ed. . Lucie, where his Majestea Government has the most unlettered I Geer.) And it is but lust for me to say, that this abolition has action. We proceed to 'Frinidad, where we shall have the tree been reramessended by the West India body in their resolutions of chine - Ty front the Spanish law, as at San Lucie we have it from the haat yen, and they further subsoebed a m ow art l e i ese eo f teb b o o e d - Mooch law. The system would be extended to Demerara, but for the first step to improvemert in throe enoniee. The next alters- circumstances which ate fresh in every body's mind. (Heat., hew.) iion enjoined is the abolition of the whip in the case of males ; It might be asked what would be ' the effect of the proccedingsin ee a etinstilies to labour ; I mean the atedition of that cowl and . these upon the ether colonies? They had certainly revived the r anus use at' it, which made- the 141100 often tittle better than one communication of the wishes of Phrliament in a spirit anything but of the herd of the field. The use of What, then, should be the mode of deelirg with the whip to he in no are' ("mediatory. telemetry ; it is not to be brandished as a symbol of authorial bythen' ? It, on a subject of such a neture , invol ein ge nch con e idera e the master. nor teceived as one of degradation by the ne g ro it is I dons, it were proper to Proceed, as upon other °tension., ancient bt. leo to be applied to brute nerves merely--it is only to be nsed as a ; el Government and Parlionient, and no one more than the intli. tussle of punishment . As to females it is to be t u tary abolished ; I hi nal who now addresses you Personal''' , might feel a desire to as to rieithe it is to be ShOndled as a stimulus to Libi , lit ; and w h e n apply measures of viperous coercion towards them. But, for my used, is to be subject to many regulations. It is not to be , own part, I declare, unhesitatingly, I have no such desire. (Ch era.) summerily iuflicted ; delay Is to take place ; it must be in. ; I should think it most unwise. 1 see, in the ebullitunie of spirit in eted before witnesses ; il a record of the reeeee rin e t h e d i thc lVest Indio., much to condenin, much to lament, but soutething is M to .be kept, front wh ic h it can totally be aecerte n ined the , also te excuse (hear, hear). and nothisig to punish. (Hear, hear.) number of persona punished, the muse Cr pu ni s h ment , the' Nothing is cattier than to enter upon a struggle with the West term of its infliction and the quantity inflicted. In ' ,h o d, I'odise's • anti, if there were anything like a parity co' strength be the whip is ratio, t o b e . re t a i n ed as an inetrunieet or pa , i ,„ h „, ea . 1 twcen the parties , I would not answer that the Imperial Legislature T he two alteutiosts, it will b e a d m itted, are likely to raise t h e I might not be roused to such a pitch of exasperation W. to threaten mass of the negfoes front the condition of b rute , en d m i te ; vengeance toJamaies. (A laugh.) There are three modes of deal asay the degrading entinctien which hitherto marked their lot 1 lng with these refractory colonists. The first is three ; the second amongst the wiser classes of their fellow men. Nest in importance ; is that means of coercion which consists in legislative enactments, nethem alterations, indeed I should rather Nay first in importance, ; fiscal regulations, and navigation laws; the third i s the s l ow and I Ot tle%t in order, comes that from which all human bene fi t,: a nd ' silent course of admonition and example. I would try the last blessings, are Juiced-I mean the propagation of religion an d I first. I hope we never may have occasion to have recourse to the religiona instruction. It is therefore ititensitd to iottrease the ; second. The thin' can only he nootted to in a case of real nee's thurto eisabiohnient, and by that means t o widen the Loris ot', city, and not under any curcuinstancee from feelings of wounded instruction. Gentlemen will please to consider that this is the j Pride. (Hear, hear.) The question of the transcendental authority more necenery, when they reflect, that when the present ostabtithe 1 of l'arliament over every part of the empire, is not a question to be 'bents were dewed, they were formed on the ground that the whites I lightly mooted. It is a question to be kept back within the peer atone were to have the benefits of instruction. 'To extent' the ester- 1 prod' of the Constitution, and brought forwent only on occasions of blishment was now found necessary—that establishment founded I. the last importance; not on every petty squabble, originating in on the fashion of the church, but not excluding th e s e rvices of t h os e ' mistaken notions of diemity, or supposed mange , on feeling. who bed already served well Al authority and discipline, I (Cheers.) It would otherwise be rase •O en educe pass:ogee from the as in this country, to be lodged with the church, without Josiah-a Gazette which should put u• in t toe ering rage. (A laugh.) any objection to include those humbler fellow-Limon, who; but when I consi d er the utter pewees cm of those who are the had to in the often barren and dangenose field. With I au th ors of these insults, and th e omne ~.,:n ee of those against whore religious worship is to be combined religious instruction ; but they are directed, the very consciousnese dew strength is a reason to detail is not now my principal object ; the great desideratum is i for Palming them by with disregard. (Cheers) If there are any to render the slave capable of receiving other benefits flowing from agitators now seeking to lay the foundation of their popularity in religion, and of duly appreciating them. Let n . here (Injustice ore colonies on their Mtendel resistance of the expected enentach to the West India body in this country, who have beam extremely Mend of the mother • country-if there are any men now etudying desirous on this subject, and who have already used means to ex. the speeches in which they are so emulate the tame of ll'ashington tend religious , instruction in more than one of the Colonies After l and Bolivar (a laugh), let us die-appoint , them by removing all. religious worship and religious instruction conies the care of those I ground for et nlPlaint. (Hear, hear, hear.) If they will have an Outlines Windt are the sweeteners of life, and which conduce to and lnollireetitill, let us take care t h at it shall be dearly for the whip, sanctify the other noose relations of smith,. It is intended to en- and the liberty of using it as they plisse. (Cheers. i We shall towage marriage-an entourogement in perfect consonan ce w ith thus more e ff ectually saint their eloquence ant' stop their dispiesi the views and knowledge of awes persons best acquainted with the I tiro for resistance than by any exercise of our authority. When I 'Ohm's, in many of which the plan has already received • ready this Patriotic fire has no 'flintily of furl, i t will go out of itself. assent. Orme ing out of marriage alien); fresh charities of Ina.; and I (A laugh .) When no elitpusition is manifested to controul-when in sill future Saes of negroes (for that word, mite, must st ill b e I do army is sent to overawe, the spirit of discontent will die away, used), care shall be taken not to separate the husband from the wife, al the ground% of offence betweea the countriee being thus iv. the parent from or the child, n shall the nipple be denied I to the cry moved, the colonic,' will come amicably to the coneitiontion of whet of :he infent (bier, hear); butt in case of isles they must be uni- I we reumunend, and they may be tethered gradually to ad opt totally taken together. The bonds that cement fentilies, end I them. Situated epidemics is, amidst warnings and examplosh give life to existence, s h a ll no t be severe d as b e f ore ; an d wen:Atom to deter antrexaniples to invite her, with St. Domingo wit .re entoni has hitherto given then eknoce a right-watever . and Celonthia before her, and with the proposed regulations of Mat be requisite to secure him, not only what he has, but 1 Trinidad, St. Lucie, sod Deerara, it bl not to be sup posed that to keep Hai front want--bas been made a positive and herelefence of umnitigatill m slavery will be confined to the arse*, unbending injunction, and shall henceforth be made the law the,tbat her nieces are happier then so many Britons at hoots (Heir, hear). After tke omission of property will come the 1(A lough,) The ecclesiastical system will be divided between Ja power of bequeathing it when ninth.; and it is intended to institute niaica and i rin dad. - The diocese of one Bishop will extend over tisane, not only for that end, but else to enable them to put up 1 the Leeward I mends ; that of the other over the Windward Is net metre their savings (and it is strange, that it the present state , lends ' This establishment will not be accompanied with any de o,' civilization so tate an invention should, even in this country, have 1 mend OW their finnan& ; the expense will be defrayed 11w the two bent discovered urotworted to), and banks arc to be instituted for first years out of the interest of the swim late" appropriated for the that purpose, with this advantage, that the negro shall not only erre-wind churches For two years no part sof that suni would be have the security of low, but the eye of nottaiety to see that his r eq uired, as that interval, it was calculated, would be consumed in rights ant unmedested. Bt• these Illeanti new Wt.'. will, arise in the winding up the accounts of th e former ex p enditure. There was iiegvo's mind ; he will feel himself lifted above the level of the brute; another fund whick hant authorised to gay will be avoided for all he wdl begin to think, and be will feel a relish for the endearments other iturpestets• 'the Crowe list graciousl) , moonset' to tie up its of family; the acquisition of property will excite ambition; the own hands fraid tiny fonder grant from the et per fent. or leee gradual light spr e es d over his mind wil l teach him to estimate the ward Island Fund, used the ecclesiastical estublishment shall be value et t h e blessings he has still to enjoy ; and then the propriety regularly provided hoe. It was desirable that Parliament should be of rteciving his evidence in a (mart of justice will come to be con- put in possession of the pritintoke on attic' we have acted, and the mined. It would be as wild to say that the evidence of the negro Rl3/18 we proposed to carry into - execution. It now remains for should now be nodeed, as it would be union to say that in all Parliament to discuss them, and I hope, in the course of the de- Can it should be denied. In this country a slave.-not a slave, but bate, every Member will abstain front exciting angry passions, and one in a state of as great unfitness to give evidence, front an ig- from casting general reflections on this interesting and painful twenties of its nature and obligations, I would say an infant,-i s no t question. The sense of Parliament is awakened to the evil, And it allowed to give evidence, unless under circumstances which are also will, I trust, proceed to the subject with a touperate but 'firm de-. to be extended to the negro. Out Of this necessity , however, has termination to deal with it according to the principles of general grown a consolation useful in itself, that those under whose care justice and sound policy. Above all, I conjure Gentlemen on both the nape is to be placed can certify whether he is so fitted by in- sides, those who take part in the question by the natural and ne ntriiritat sato beaitniitted ass witness, and that not in any particular cessary interests they had involved in its consideration, and those Eva nor to meet any, particular view or object, but generally, when who espoused the question from feelings dearer to them than any d e i Adage goes that such and midi a slave has made such ad- interest, not to sutler themselves to be red by the exaggerated pie. timers as to know the natimeof an mitts that his oath shall be ad- tures drawn on the one side (hear, heir), or the exaggerated ex misseible. A register of such negroes is to be kept, and this may pectations held nut on the other, for a sudden and doubtful benefit induce that spring of all human actions--a becoming pride ; it may to one class of the colonial population to put to hazard and jeopardy be teund a stimulus to general imitation, and lead untie result to thelives and properties of a numerous body of another class Though we most desirable can uencene It is here, also, just to say, that in these debates we argue as of a clam and a population, let us re uniter more or less quali ne the system was now admitted in member that not living on the spec we cannot calculate the of Ituminica, Grenada, St. Vincent's, Trinidad, and some few other feed of that incurable alienation which difference of colour pro of the Islands. Next is to came that which isanimitentent to re. duties (cheers). bet us recollect that our debt ter we. be read else. h i ghs% worabip-the abolition of Sunday mar k ets , already m or n . where, where that feekkog operates in ha strongest shape. To those tardy accsied o in many of titeesiends, and recommended by that who are liable to be seduced be that enthusiastic eloquence, I would re-wettable body the West India Planters in this country. They suggest, that in an assembly Imo which almost every man enters sass , recommended such facilities in the way of manumission, as to fettered by so many of the ties, and connected with so mane of the 1' 2,, 5C11 those complaints of unwillingness which were heard interests of those whose all was eutbarkel in the questioh, little dont maey of the other Slant's on that very important sub.. effect can be produced by referents to exaggerated statements met. Various taxes have been remitted, to facilitate manumission, (cheer*); but above all let us remember that we are offering freedom and I lope the time is not far distant when all the coition:, will to those who, by the confession of all parties, are nut in the condition 'follow the MUM example. The Veda in Council, however, goes to enjoy its blessings; that we are stirring a question not only dan thrther on this subject ; it goes beyond the recommendation of she gerous but gratuitous (hear, hear); and that as goad cannot be 'West Italia body here ; for it prescribes distinctly, that the Negro done in this case by fits or starts, nor by the operation of any great wbe hes acquired property, dud', under certain regulations, be name or sudden change in the argent ; but that as in every perms allowed to purchase his own freedom, and that of his wife and nent aniendnient the masters must be the instruments of accent children. I have now stated the general grounds on which the pliably it, no course can be so fatal as to excite that flame of lap- Ords-r in Council proceeds, cenorteiscing its operation in Trinidasl. Placab e hatred against them which can oily be extinguished in I keow uton this question that great prejudice prevails; but lam far their blood (cheers. If any other plan in the same spirit of mo• front saying that people more acquainted with the teolonien boy not deration should be proposed, I shall be ready to listen to it. It fairly entertain them. 1 assure those individuals that their opinions. seems to me as I am at present advised, that an attempt to inflict are not unknown to this Government ; but the principle a l r eady ex. freedom suddenty, would be of all unseats the most hostile in its ins at St. Kitt's, and by usage already prevails at Trinidad; and I result to Its Formed object. I am prepared to do homage to the hope, that where amelioration has already taken place, voluntarily, feelings of thaw who would go that length ; but it is clear to me in soy of the islands, the example will spread to others in rapid that they would lessen the chance of ultimate success (cheers). succession. In Nome, one benefit prevails ; in others, other benefits The only chance of co-operation in this work, front the white popu preyed ; and much will be done by bringing to bear on one society lation, and consequently the only chance of safety to the whole, is the Orson: beneficial regulations which &renew scattered through- that the discussion should be conducted with temperance, and that out all. The neglect of the Negre has long been a theme of de- the abolition should take place by the most gradual advances clamming+, and the care with wh eh be is treated has been as loudly (cheers). It will not he necessary that I should trcublc the Home talked of by those who take a different view of the subject; but at greater detail, but I should sin against the old prompt which we, who are a: a distance, and who must therefore see with the eyes admonishes us to avoid that course. But connected with this sues tit others, must look to the facts as they are stated, upon the best and don for rescuing so large a paten of the population of our t'oloe mon theinterested authority : and when we fled tha. useful rigida- rim from the evils of slavery, is that inhuman trade by which they thine are adoptel in one colony, and not in another, we must almost were brought into that unhappy condition, and for the abolition of erieseatily feel, that in eat ilding the good to all, we cannot, pro- which the country is so much indebted to the lion. Olen - leer for poly sprekieg, prejudice tEe interest of any. So far we have seen lleambee (Mr. IVilberforce). I ant perfectly confident that the that the scheme proposed fur adoption at Trinidad, abolishes all prohibition hat been sacredly observed in our own colonies; bin use of the wiuili in the case of females; it abolishes it also in the true it is that the trade prevails to an enormous extent in the colo ' ease of nodes except as an instrumento( punishment, to be ear- nit" of other Powers ; true it is that all the efforts of this country deed unties certain regulations, ar.d never to be employed as a to procure an active aomperotion of those Powers against that evil, stimulus to labour. Religious worship will produce religious instruc• have been comparatively unsuccessful. Among the ItIeaSIIICS that dust, and in order to give 'sufficient time tar a due attention to its have been edvised and attempted IS, that those who are guilty of I " liseey influence, the Sunday markets are to be abolished ; marriage taking part in the slave trade, should be obnoxious to capture, not I is to be encouraged ; familira are to be kept together; property is only by vessels of their own country, but by those of other Powers; I te be secured by law, and its subsequen t t distriltution to be rikually in other words, that the offence shonld be constituted a piracy. woke-red; the e v idence of s laves is to he received under certam re- It was supposed at the Congress ofVerona, where the queetam was geletione; and, lardy, every encouragement is to be given to their discussed, then it would be competent for a Congress of Sovereign c w e rsipation, with this advalitsge, that if the parent choose to to erect the of of slave trading into a piratical crime, amenable ; .purcOase his own freedom he nay do so, if of his child he may to the general law of Eurooe. This, however, 1 need tardly say, do so, if of his more immediate kindred Ite may do so, with the cer- was a menake. We should be the last power to admit that any tainty that if' all arc sold they ere not to be separated from one Congress of Sovereigns could enact laws binding in their operation aeotha. Such arc the objects of the Order In Council, from on states who had not assented to then. (Cheers.) The proner I which I anticipate, the most useful moults without my being course was for each state to decide for itself, whether the crime . aisle to contemplate any danger from such manifest improweenenta. should be deemed piratical, by rendering it what in England is I It in this purchase of freedom we go beyond the West India termed astatutable o ff ence. By this means the subject's of the Planters, we still till short of what is extlectesi by others (Hew, state were OM rendesed amenable to any foreign jurisdiction while from Mr. Buxton). I know the Honourable Itlember is one the nature of the offense watt changed. It had often been proposed, I of those gentlewen who go farther In their motions; but he will but in vain, to the Governments of France and the United States of • Alms rue to say, that his Majesty's Government fed with a painful America to concede a right of mutual visit and search in cases of ' aexiety on this subject. They are not prepared to go all lengths suspected piracy. The House is aware that such a proposition though they are {Oslo that which seems the b le for all the confilet• touched many sore points of maritime law. It was not surprising, . mg interests concerned in this great question. I must confess, I therefore, that it had never been successful. I ant now happy, did ,sox understand the Hon. lieut. to expect the total einancipa- however, to state. that not many days ago a treaty was signed by tila of the Negroes few the prima or.noration ; a4f he did expect my Right Hat. Relative and the America Minister at IS'ashing it, do 1 sec how it could be acsoruplished with to any party. ton, aerating to a mutual right of visit. sobjest to certain limitations Ara we to let in the full lighter heltdorn on eyes unsealed Rom the and restrictions, provided that both Governments established the ' scales of bondage? (Hear, hear.) Arc we to present to them an mine penalty as to the crime. In America it was already declared 1 object which they cannot measure, of whose dimensions they esti Piracy. I propose this evening to bring In a Bill in fulfilment of the fort, no mheee notion, and who, with the intellect of children, are condition of the ratification of the treaty, by which the vend, I ii,ot able to calculate the (Petatice from its cajoyment ? Are we to of the United Stela and England will be e mpowered to act` not only I te'i the negroes that instant freedom is their right? (Hear, hear.) against the eineehrailere of their own stuntriee, but against those ; It we are, then wc make their meant existence intolerable, with- belorighw to all other nations. (Cheers.) I do not feel it necessary to se • being abk to secure to them an y come pondino b e nefit for the enter further into the details of the treaty. The House will recd. eita.e. lit the operation of moral causes, to make the parent 1 het that there were certain points of maritime law between us and the instniment of his children's freedoni, is the sided course, the United States. These points of dignity have been nerved, atal hot is the course which we intend pursuing. The free- and en both sides the right are declared not to be prejudiced, bet damn 'Mond under our plan will be safer and stabler aceuir- liable to revival on any future occasion. The Governments have el by Noise wears. and under those modifications, than if it agreed Ite to this subject only ; but as to this, the treaty is toot w ere the creature of any sudden measure of tilliirepiteti calamine- ample and effectual. Each power preserves the administration of don. (Hon. how, lie - ar.) ‘Ve cannot deal with the negro as wlth law to its own subjects, thought the rupture of offenders is common an infant of larger growth, vno, better he is admitted to freedom, , to both. An Ameri •an vessel may take a British ship, if it is fourul ; can be [ovidal to enjoy it. If we emancipate hint suddenly we ' engaged in this nefarious (3a - de i and I trust, that if there is shall turn him wild, in the fulness of his physical strength-in the I one so employed, which I doubt, it will be captured. (Hen. I maturity aids physical minions ; but in the infarey of his mind , hear, hear.) The raptured vessel -sin then he sent for adjudics- ! nett reason . ( Mar, her.) Like the monster of the VOITSInte. I tien to theeountry to which it belongs. or delivered to the first ship I created by the 'kill of the sorcerer, who, however, could infuse of war the captor may meet at sea. The only practical ineonve- I i"e,, hi a ma ture power and strength, only for the puler/ea of tins- 1 es nlence that could result from declaring this offence to be tirades', I thief, we shall find that we have only created a giant, at whose th at of exposing the subjects of one power to the criminal jurisdic dehie we shall recoil with horror anti dismay. (Cheery.) This ; el m of seother-is thus avoided, I hope that this treaty will be raeuld he the effect of rash and unprepared emancipation. They I found effectual tor its purpose. Its benefits cannot be small, fur would rush into all the wild dissoluteness of licentiousness before when the two first maritime powers in the world shall be seen that ; rsd - .heir minds to compreh.nd, .to have compromised, their pride and submitted to an agreement of . herefore, I prolsom to go • this kind, we may surely go to the other governments with no small mere whose enthusiasm I power and grate to require their accenlen to this truly virmisus dente will object that and beneficent measure. (('heers.) The Right Honourable ties. rill. (('heers.) To Le tleman then concluded by flaring for leave to bring in a Bill for awe. (Cheers.) flare; the more effectual suppression of the African Slave Trade. [The , dive we to suppress an 1 the continued for several minutes after the Right Honourable' show dintersiows we can Stientlentan hop resumed his seat.] vy direction we can ac- I Mr. F. BUXTON said, that though a considerable part of the ; , the growth of centuries ; ' Right Honourable Gentletuan's speech had his corthel approbation, • tate almost newel with I yet by far the most important portion had given the greatest dimp lifted, has existed %ince ',ointment. lidera he went into an exantination of the Right ion for legislation, we IlemenraOle Gentleman's plan, he suggested that there was a Fedi. misty (Frahm, wildly, there sbouldbe say debate at *Hon the (leaflets* the meaning of these athrertisements—he would ask salijiet—(llear, hear).-whether they were me bound by pru- them what they could possibly willtan—!f the whip was merely a demisl consideration and theyositive pledge of last Session to ab. symbol of office, a bulge of authority It Was the statement made stain wholly from the discussion. (Hear, hear.) last Seasion his respecting; the whip hounded upon truth ? Coald he believe it, Majetty'a Minister' had taken up the question of davery, and when at least one half of the negroes who Were apprehended under their guidance the House had agreed to a positive and ape. in the island had their hocks market' ? With this fact be eific pledge to pursue effertual and decisive measures for the sine- fore him, he could nut bring himself to believe that the whip was • lionuion of the condition of the slaves. (Cheers.) The Honour- merely a badge of authority. He was compelled to believe it able Gentleman then read the resolutions plaid last Session. That was used as an instrument of service. If this his opinion were was the nature of the pledge. If it were said the colonial legisla- denied, what, he would agent ask, was the meaning of the silver. tures would not consent to the measures implied in that pledge, tisetnents he had read ? If there ins truth in these advertisements, there was a further pledge given by his Majesty's Ministers, that 1 how could the assertion of the West bides gentlemen be supported, ' they would expect front incitement a full and fair co-operation and how could the fact of the branding . be denied ? There was iin enforcing them. (Cheers.) It was expressly stated, that any . another circumstance that had come to his knowledge within a few I resistance to the expressed wishes of revilement, would create a days ; before that time, he declared solemnly to the I totem, he case on which his Majesty's Ministers would not hesitate a ma- would not have believed it. Ile did not think there were in the client in comine down to the House and asking for corns!. (baud West Indies persons who anted brand the flesh oftneir fellow-man. cheers.) The hest pledge was a pledge of amelioration to all the Ile would state one case more to the tonne respecting %hat, if he slaves in all the colonies. The Right Honourable Gentleman's did not know It from authority, he could not believe. It was the plea was applicable only to a few slaves in Trinidad, St. Lucie, case of a female named Betsey, a Creole, and to this instance he and perhaps Demerara. If the pledg"_ had been fulfilled, the would call the attention of the House. She had various marks House would have been debarred from discussing the measures; branded upon her breasts. There was another wtan who hail se hut if it was not actually abandoned, it was at least so reduced, so weal letters not distinct upon his person. 'lhere was Peter, a limited, so confined, that now, instead of meaning amelioration to Mangelo, who had lumps all over him, and each shoulder was the slaves in all the colonies, it meant only amelioration to the marked with a cow. John, a Creole, was marked in like manner slaves in one or two islands. (Cheers.) • The rest were to share upon the breast. It was not, in his opinion, possible to deny the the benefits of cinanciputson at some distant, undefined, and re- brutality of such a oust yet as this : the person who could do so had mute period, which hardly any man living could expect to no sense of propriety ; and he would again repeat, that when five see. If die House were to wait for the slow and silent hundred cases of this description took piece in one island ia a year, course of admonition and example (hear, hear")--if they were and when the negros apprehended were marked aad branded on to mist to the progress of the light of reason (loud and re. their bodies RS he described, it was impossible to look upon the listed cheers)—lie would repeat, it what they heal pledged them- whip as a liter badge of authority. Another lion. nlember had also wives to perform was to be left to the unassisted operation area- described the whip as mere ornament, and that therefore there was son (loud end repeated cheers again), they might calculate with no necessity he its abolition. Ile agreed with put of the plan laid certainty, lie admit. • 1, on the result being attained; but li_ was down by the Right Hon. Gentleman, which had for its object the afraid it would not he for ten centuries to tome. (Cheers). The prohibition of the whip by law. To this he agreed, provided it pledge given to 700,1100 slaves was the more sacred, because none was done soon ; and the next point u pon which he would of them could claim its entni cement or protest against its violation. insist was, that this prohibition shou ld be extended to all If one iota of the pledge was abandonee, let it be clear that the the West India islet:els. There was in the plans suggested by the !louse were trot parties to the abandonment. Ile gave his full and Right Honourable I ieetleman one to which he begged to call the cordial approbation to the Order in Council. Vilietever might be attention of the House. lie confessed it surprised him. It was its minute details, the general principle was sound. So tar as possible he mistook the Right Honourable lientlenian, but he un those measures extended, and so far only the pkdge was redeemed. deniml him to say, that the missionaries going tam] this country lle admitted the brilliant and dexterous Weal of the Right Hon. should be placed, in some degree, and to a certain extent, under the Gentleman ; but he had a duty to perform. which he was aware control and direction of the Bishops. This measure, if he un might again, as before, bring down upon hint reproaches, but del-stood it rightly, would not, or cuuld not, at this or any other I which should not theretbre be by him neglected. He would not period, be owned into effete. And if the Right Honourable' tacitly acquiesce in the defeat of their hopes, nor wimess in silence Gentlemen endeavoured town this measure, he would most as that measure which WA% intendl.4l f o rs wholeArchipelagn, pared down sureelly fail. It should be recollected that these missionaries were I to a single island. What then were the practices that were confirmed dissenter*, and when the} embraced the doctrines of the Church ufl among every ninety.nine out of every one hundred stoves in the England they ceased to he so. He hoped the lion. Gent. would West Indies ? By law and custom negro females were stripped not persevere, as it would operate against the suce.ese of the these naked and stretched on the cunt , and were publicly whipped in sure. There visa great objection he lised in regard to the manna in the presence of their own fathers and sons. This outrage on nature which these regulations were to be carried into effect, which be and decency was, he rejoiced, to be abolished in Tnnidad. He would not discus at present, as it was not before the Hons. He agreed with the Right Hun. Gentleman that die filet step towards was well pleased with that part of the plan which regarded the pro. the improvement ot the negroes was, th at some attention should be petty of the Negro, and sanctioned by law that property which sus _ paid to the diffeeence of the sexes What hope of refined feel. tort gave him before. There was another subject to which he should mg could exist where the negro females werenakedly, publicly, and call the attention of the House, which appeared to him of the sietineksly flogged? (theme). What mtiotial expectation could highest importance: he meant the rejection of Negro evidence there be, teat a young female negro could be modeet or chaste throughout the West India colonies. Upon this part of the subject while ale was liable to be so tre a ted ? It was impossible they he would appeal with conlideece to the House, and ask, if, by the could be utherwise than destitute of decency while they continued wise , • of Negro evidence, all law was not refused to the entire. in so wretched and debasing a condition. But this first step population of the islands? This, in his opinion, would not be de towards moral improvement was to be taken only in Trinidad. nied. The white population consisted of about fitly thousand, and • (Cues.) What the Right Honourable Gentleman himself called the black population was *even hundred thousand ; here there. unseemly and shocking. was to be removed only from among fore was a proportion of fourteen to one, if the white population 22,000 staves in 'f riaithul, and eventually fel/Mein St. Lurie; but were supposed to be dispersed over the country as the blacks were ; every step towards improvement was to be refused to th. 71.10,0110 but the whites were not scattered in this manner ; they in general negroes in the other parts of the Nast Indies (" No, me") resided inehe towns as 'enchants, professional persona, clerks, etc. The Right Honourable Gentleman indulged the•hope that the and amongst a population of two or three hundred Demos there day was not distant when our views and wishes would be em. were generally two or three whites. This would be giving one braced by the 'West Indians themselves. On what did he found white to one hundred blacks i and if by the law, as it at present this opinion ? Hsi they as yet manifestee any disposition to con- existed, a white man thought proper to go abr oad in the thee of sent to our wishes, flinch less to embrace our opinions ? How was day and commit a murdee, it would follow. from this statement, the proposal to abolish the use of the cart.whip received in Ju- that it would be two htirifired to one if the person who saw the maim? The planters assumed the tone of an injured, insulted, crime committed could he IM' evidence ; and if the white man sa and resolute people. (hear, hear.) At Barbados's, which, oo se- tested his opportunity and chose his time, and the person who would count or the larger number of resident proprietor* educated in this he base enough to commit the crime would be sufficiently cunning country, was insure embutel with English spirit the proposal. had to select his opportunity, it would be utterly impossible to convict been discussed with greater temperance. The Houonreble Member him. In this country, upon a late occasion, Thurtell was convicted then referred to a speech by Mr. Hampden in the Bar• by a chain of circumstantial evidence, and if a link in the chain had bailors House of Assembly. %hr Hampden concurred in all the beer wanted, he would have been acquitted: this link was wanted, liberal opinions respecting the treatment of the negroes, as to the and it was filled up by the evidence of an accomplice. Under the necessity of religious education, the abolition of the Sunday law, as it stood at present, it was completely impossible to procure markets, the removal of fines on manumission, and even the adn a conviction in the Colonial by means of circumstantial evidence. mission of negro evidence. He then came to the subject of whip- This rejection of evidence was the source of the greatest mischief ping females. He described Lord Bathurst as a bitter enemy of to the uegro population ; and there was no satisfactory reason, in his the colonists, who had suffered his pnnciples of duty to be van- opinion, foe rejecting his evidence : it was productive of the worst guished by his fanatical feelings. On the flogging of females he possible coneequencee Ile did not wish to trespass upon indulged in SOUle very pleasant jokes. lie began with remarking the patience of the Howse, but he could not refrain from stating that the use of the whip on females was calculated certainly to some authorities on the pthject. He would hr . fly state those of shock our notions of gallantry, but unfortunately the negro ladies Chief Justice (Utley, efee Wylie, aod Sir W. Lung, who was sup. j had a strong trtelency to an Amaronion cast of character, and he Weed to be favourable to the interests of the planter. It was his Believed that their husbands would be sorry if they were placed opinion that ito grave reason could be given for the rejection of beyond the reach of the cart-whip. %Then he (Mr. Il.) read this negro evidence, and he could not forbear quoting one sentence from speech his mind naturally turned to certain damning ruts which hint. The slave, he said, by this rejection of evidence, was entirely had occurred within the sit or seven years. The Hon. Member out of the protection of the l aw; and he would ask the West India then referred to the case of two negro fetnales, who suffered twenty planters with what motive they withheld this right of giving evi lashes each with a cart-whip -because they had cried through sync_ dense — why the blacks were not trusted upon this emotion. pathy, at a similar punishment in fl icted before their eyes on two especially when it was ',melded by a clause in the Art of Council, male slaves. This was at Nevis' in 1)110. The next was the tele. which deprived them of the right of giving evidence i'gainat a white brated case of the negrees America, at limbic* -This woman, an man, that it should be lawful for them to give evidence against a inoffensive, goodenstweed creature, had been publicly stripped and black. i n his opinion, if there was a good reason fur not giving whipped on acne= of some fault counietted by a child. - !the was evidence in one case, it should also exist in the other. The pregnant at the time of her dreadful punishment, and miscarried answer of the planter, he knew, was this—that it would not in consequenc of it. The number of lashes she received was one be safe to trust the testimony of a negro. front his habitual hundred and filly, and she was afterwards 11 days In the stocks. carelessness of truth, and his utter disregard for an oath. Thhi The next CAC was that of a poor female at Honduras, who, in a was the answer of the planter ; and if it were false, its falsehood naked state, had her hande tied to her feet, anti a stick passed be- should be &hewn i if it were true, it disclosed to all the tween them, so that her d ab master tumedher over at his plea. nature of slavery—it (inclosed the nature of that system which sure to torture her. She had also a large cattle chain round her sunk a man so low. which made him so despicable, s not to be a• neck. Her body was lacerated all over, and her wounds festered ; fit companioa for the probers and Hunts of this country. Hem yet this picture of liars° depravity and misery, could not induce then was the situation of the lVest India planters. Upon a .Inry to give more than Me Jamaica currency (about 331. Mr_ this subject one of two things must be done: they must either wi ling) as the penaluy adequate to the crime. The next rase was that mit the credence of the negroes, or they must cease to he the advo of Peggy, in 11121, at Modems. She was handcuffed and shackled, cams of slavery—they must cease to pronounce the encomiums of and in that state placed in an old store, in a climate in which, to that system ethich made the negro population such liars that their those even whose limbs were free, the musquimos were very tor- evidence could not be admitted—they must in future cease nuenting. She was afterwards, in a state of nature, confined in a to be the encomiasts of damn, which debased the negro's mind dormitory, in which some slaves were occasionally imprisoned.— and rendered it unfit to be the tenant of the noble form of a man. lie lamented the necessity of encroaching upon the patience of the There was also ahother crteummance to which he matt decidedly House, but he felt obliged to state the objection which he had to object—he meant the power nosessed by the planter. He objected the system, for different and many reasons. Ile hated slavery al. to the absolute power of one individual over another—to the power together; he hated it, as it operated upon the conduct of the of tearing and rending asunder all the ties and affeetiess of our luster ; he hated it, as it operated upon his mind ; he hated it, as nature. It was in the power of the master to sell the slam when he it affected the moral condition of the Negro—it degraded and de- wished ;--the tax-gatherer might sell him tit was competent to based him—as it defiled the man and made him vile in his own the creditor to sell him fur the discharge of his debts. The master eyes and in ours; and he chiefly hated it, because it operated as dies—his property was divided, and descended to two heirs I one of an obstacle to the moral improvement of the negro. If the measure floe helm might take the husband, the other the wife or child. of moral improvement were attended to, the cart-whip ought to be He would state one act of peculiar atrocity, which at first lie was laid down. Ile had heard it asserted, in fact, by an Honourable inclined not to believe: it took place at Demerara, a short time Member opposite, that the cart-whip was not used in the West before the insurrection in that island ; the account was before him. Indies as a stimulus to labour. He for his part maintained and it was only a few days ago that he received it : it was the ase it to be used as an instrument of the most cruel punishment, of a negro, a most respectable man for his situation in life • he moreespecially when it was inflicted upon females. He had heard was called William, and was inserted Ili years ; he had 13 chil ies'd it objected that the negro would feel dissatisfied if his wife was living ; the estate was divided between two persons of the name' exempt front the torture of the whip ; this assertion was either true of Rogers : these persons separated the man from his wile and 1$ or false : if false, as an argument it went for nothing; if true, children, and debarred him all access to them; he was threaliessi what was to be thought of a system under which such a feeling with flogging and imprisonment if he attempted to see than; he prevailed ? Ile hated slavery, not chiefly for the physical id; was besides liable to be said or to be sent to a distance, perhaps se terings lit inflicted—he hated it a thousand tints more for the miles off. This took place in the month of August: the unarms. moral debasement it produced. Allowing therefore the expression tonbeck' out on the 17th of the month, and by the last accounts lof Mr. Hamblin to be true, that the Negro would be indignant if from Demerara. he learned that the unfortunate man was hanging i his wife were to be exempt from the punishment of the cart whip, in chains, tor haying, as it was natural he should, joined in the in. I how, he would ask, mule that system he justifies!, under which surreetion. From a circumstance like this, he wondered this eye the moral qualities of manhood were extracted hum the breast uf ten should have existed so long; still more he wondered that I any iniliyittual to such a degree, as to make hint grumble if his any person whatever could expect it to laat ; and if there ' wife, his sister, of aged mother, were not, in a state of nakedness, was a majority in that House to support it, he knew there expos el to public punishment? With reepect to this system of pu- was in this country a feeling of decided hostility to the mea. nishtnenethey had, he thought, the conclusive opinion of the House sure. lie knew the country and the public would not be se from what passed on a Cornier occasion, and upon this subject he tisfied, after the pledge given for the amelioration of the condition would appeal to the !louse, on behalf of himself and of those with Of the Slaves, with those promises being frittered clown to an ex whom he acted ; and he would ask if they were not traduced and periment made in the Island of Trinidad. The public et erld not calumniated through the country—if they were not itemised of wild wait for this course of proceeding. He for one thought some de. ' and enthusiastic modes of legislation on the subject before the cisive and efficient measures should be taken, at no remote period, House? (Hear, hear.) Ile would now demand that, which he on the subject, that would tend to the extermination of slaver . He could net dement, out of doors, justice. He would ask if they acted was not, as It was well known to the Right Honourable (lent lunder the impulse of the feelings laid to their charge ? He would hostile to the interests of the planters ; and he would gladly, and ask if he and this friends had gone beyond the feelings of the House with the most unbourded satisfaction, assent to any measure that • and the country, when they asked the cart.whip to he thrown could be devised, which would at once give liberty to the slave down? (Hear, hear.) He knewthis svetem was denied by several without doing injury to any inn's fortune. of the Gentleman connected with the 'mutest Indies. and by men of Mr. R. ELLIS could mu refrain from troubling the House with • the highest respectability, and who also promised that fcniales a few 'observations upon the matter under discussion. Upon this should is figure be excluded front punishment. He again lament- subject he had lung sirte formed his opinions. and he saw no reason Id that healiould be obliged mareapege upon the attention of the whatever for changing them. Perhaps he would not adhere with ; House, but there was ar.outer haunt to which he felt obligee! ui refer : so much cerfidence to those opinions if they were guided by and 'lt was asserted thit the whip was not applied to themes—that it was depended on tbetuoalees alone, but he had acted in concert with, not used in theWestlndies as a stimulits to Inhour. For this rentnn it and consulted gentlemen, sleteply interested in the West Indies— ! 'night therefore be with as much propriety extinguished. It WAS affirm- men who lied at once the advantage of long experience and local in. led that the whip was not used ; it merely was suffered to bang formation. Sonic of them had the rare of a great number of neves; j upon the shoulder of the driver as a kind of ornament ; that it wag they were the piesesom of considerable property. These gentle., I sot a stimulus to labour, and the slave use not subject to the di- men had concurred in opinion with hint, and lie would follow the' rection or control of that individual. In this opinion the Right I course they recommended. The Honourable Member referred to Hon. Gentleman hinonlf ertniel to concur , when he made his 1 what haul fallen from him on a former occasion. He would say ' ustatements respecting the driving system. He had also afferitted, that lie was not in the least sorry for any thing he stated to the that the curt whip Was used not as a stimulus to labour, and it , H ou se : lie had said the cart-whip was net used as a stimulus to Pan stated in it pamphlet, written, lie had heard, by an Hon. !labour. lie was ready to repeat it. He had also done him the Member of that lit:tete. that the whip in the hands of the driver ! honour to notice another expectation, as if it was his, that the whip was merely a remnant of an old etistoin..--3 Symbol and badge of his was tre-rely an ornament t this expression he hail not used. The office; and he went so tie as to seine , that the letup in the hands of I Honourable Gentleman alleged he corrected him. Ile was ready the (infer was, as complied to ;try use that might be matte of it, to discuss the matter. As to the marks upon the bodies of the elates, exactly what the mace WA+ in the hands of the r4--rgeant at Anita, the answer to this was perhaps too obvious to the !louse: it was too and the driver as much used the whip as the Sergeant knocked obvious that the whip was in this case axed, rot as a stimulus to down the Members as they entered the House. (Laughing.) From labour, but as an insmoment of punishment; and the marks upon all [bete statements and authorities, he had been led to believe the persons of the negroes were perhaps the efiects of punishment himself guilty of error, in supposing the whip was used as a sti- inflicted in the regular manna, in the orderly and due observance multi. to labour, and he was studying In his own mind how he of the commands of the master, overseer, or magistrate. !le knew could make atonement for the erroneous opinion which he had it was for the purposes of giving effect to quote the instances of formed when he took up • file of the last Jamaica papers which the marks which were initiate' upon the bodies of the negroes. Ile had just arrived. They were the recent papers, and he would refer had particular feelings about approaching this question, when he to stone but recent instances in there papers. He read that the I recollected the happy state which once subsisted in the Colonies ; slaves were still taken to the public makes ; that one of them was when the masters were strongly attached tn the regress, and placed marked C.G. upon the shoulds,and marks of tingeing; another was the firmest reliance upon their fidelity, and when the negroes felt described as tusked with the letters I.C. upon the left shoulder, and the warmest attachment to tie planters. These feelings had was said to have many blotches, the nook-, of several floggings, undermine a change. Al - hen he was last in Jamaica, he resided in and a [nark upon the ode of the tongue. There was an account the midst of one ihonsand negros, in a house which had not a of a female slave called Sarah, who had also the marks of several luck either to a door or window ; but he aid not know if he could floggings, and who stated she wee abandoned by her owner, and reside amongst them in the same manner now ; their feelings had sent into the *mods to die. Of cases such as these there was a undergone an unforturate, and he trusted he might say a temporary multitude. There was another slave earned James, who bore die change. No matter what the cause of that change was. The marks of many severe floggings, and who was otherwise bneeled discussion of it he was convinced would not produce any beneficial upon the hack. He had neither time nor inclination to read these result; it would he attended with no good. He could not retrain papers himself. but the person he employe(' to read them for him I from observing upon a compliment which the lion. 3leniber had had informed him that there were at• Jest WO such cases in one thought planer to pay him at the expense of his oilier fechrep ; isleed alone. Alter the iktusal of these paper., he would ask but he would assure the House he could not think of accepting this clenpliment. Of all the lamentable ennecquenem whiet rest from the change of feeling in the Colonies, none was or a more serious nature that: that obstacles were opposed to the meal ini. Foreman of the nevem. When each racket front the; country took out an account of the debates in this HOLM, and when the ne_ grees believed this House to bs anxioas to bestow upon them th o boon of enfranchisement, and their tuastm were hostile to it, W. lB it possible in such a state of things that the shires sh-eld have fv-el. legs compatible with their situation, aid should t sin sin due lab. ordirratioe ? And when. on the other side, the nos en feared the at. tempts of the Slaves, argil remembered the 14:e totem, t 4 at ineurrec. tion, it was impossible that these parties should have those feel. logs towards each other, which would be consistent with public tranquillity ; and they were not in a suet to meet the wishes of the Home and the con or y. He therefore thought the Howe I slimed wait until these feelings would subside, when this quess teen could be broug h t forward far the benefit of the population at large, and when it could be made nut alone praetat but ' salutary, and this important alteration would be considered as the foundation of all good to the negroes. Ina moral paint of view, he was rejoiced the Church Establishtnent was extend e d to the Colonies ; the patronage hitherto was not in proper hands, nor was it properly exerted ; the extent of the parishes and the dis- I tanoe of the churches rendered the attending of divine service a hopeless matter. As to the nrisisionaries, he would say that those of the established church eve not bilinear in real and - clue:ilk-tune s to the other missionaries from this country, and had done as much, in proportion to their limited funds; and an* that their funds were incrcadid, they would have greater opportunely ' • there were new constant applications foe persons properly qualthed to go as nese °mutes. Ile now looked to the House to advance the plan, Su as to tramptilliee the public mind ; this would be effected Wilda the Air sculleries of the Colonies found that this Home did not interf ere with her powers . ; that they did not mean to enforce measuno which were disapproved of; that they would act .for the benefit of all classes* that they would not extend their Measures to the etched ratio, but they would use the a r gument ad rem:waiting; that they would be influenced by example and advice. Then all grounds of ljevkmay would cease; there would be no fear of interfereece: then the government may look for the operation of its ultimate plan with respect to the amelioration of the sleeve. L'ader these circumstances, the Council of the Colonies would perceive that Government would not proceed to the extirpation of ala. very.tes an experiment, but would wait to see the prettied curse_ qitenoes in other Colonies. When the planters were satisfied of these objects, the public mind would be tranquillised. There was an objection which ,he had to the freedom or the leaves, and the compulsory clause lattending it. With tegird to the evidence of a negro, he thought It shoutd not be taken, if he did not produce a certificate of receiving sane instruction in religion. With regard to the compulsory enfranchisement, Many objections started to his mind. lie questioned its utility as it affected the preperty of the master, and the comfortt of the slave himself. With regard to this enfronchimeinent, it should be left to the plan of the original abolitionists themselves ; they spoke through the mouth of their organ—the report of the Arrive' Institution, in which theyrepel with indignation some insinuations thrown out against them, and they assert they have not the most distant idea of the hasty enfranchisement of slaves, but their object was to limit the extent of slavery ; and of that limit the masters and not the slaves were to be the instruments..` It would be disingenuous in him to omit to suite his regret at the temper with which those instructions had been met by the colonies. It Was es Went that the colonial legislature understood them ass threat from Government to invade their privileges. This certainly was not a comers nor a fair construction of the language of Gs, vernment ; and it had received a very satisfactory contradiction from the speech of his Right Honourable Friend . but this was followed by an insurrection in the colony of Demerara. There was naleng peculiar ie that insurrection, as the plot of it wee discussed le all the rest : but he vereld beg the Honourable Gentleness te recollect, that those instructions could not be viewed with the same calument and coolness among the West India planters. as they were viewed by Gentleman its that House. The fears of the West India proprietors were described by some Honourable Gaitlemen as extravagant and unnecessary : these fears could rot he called ex. travagant, if the negroes had read that their owners were accusee of getting up plots far the mere purpose of oppressing their deem : then he would contend that there way a just came for their apprehensions ; sad they therefore might fell in distin. emshing the correct sense a the resolutions passed by that House, and which advocated in their opinions a spolietion of pro. racy, not to be found in any country not subject to reyolunon. Illuth allowance ought to be made for people situated as the cola. nista were, and there might, he thought, have been more Rehear, once displayed in the tone and manner of the Right lion. Gentle, man. If there were any Gentlemen disposed to judge harshly of the conduct of the colonial legislature, he would -onjure them to bear in mind what their own dignity would induce them to do if they were legielcing in the midst of heat and insurrection, and to take care not to fall into similar errors. Ile would conjure the House, if they participated in th e feelings of distrust of the eche trial assemblies, to recollect that this country had no other engines by which it mule work ; and Parliataeot could only securethe ton. quillity of the colonies by evincing kindly feelings to both ;area: Ps: 'cement could not, by the meet coercive measures, compel the planters to feel kindness towards the negroes, but they might ire duco it by lenient and politic ones • by an injudicious interface" they might occasion scenes of blo od 'lac to what had mune in et. Domingo. Ile concluded by imploring the House, if they would accomplish the real security of all parries, they must do it in conjunction with the colonial legislature. Mr. WILBERFORCE congratulated the House on the probs. bility thit existed of the amelioration of the condition of so laree • portion of our fellow-creatures. His Hon. Friend who had pee. ceded him on that sit:: of the House (Mr. Balton) had tad the ft s solutions that had been sent out to the colonise. The Hon. Gentle r man who had just sat clown, stated that those vesoluems had beet, misurderatuoth It he misunderstood ? They were perfectly cleM and explicit, and expressed as plainly as language could make them. There was therefore no ground for saying that the; Ind been misconceived. lie did not stab to enlargeon tbissubject; bat he would ask, what had been dons for the colonies if we emelt. wait fur the concurrence of the proprietors in our attempts teamed the condition of the negro population ; but of their support he hid no hopes ; if he cgme for the first time into that House, he might,. perhaps, is the ardour of youth, indulge a prospect of its euccessc but from what he knew he could state, that generation aka groats tion would pass away while we were endeavouring to conciliate ell parties to this measure ; and what must be the inevitable coms qualms if the advice of his Hon. Friend were to be adopted? it was the great misfortune of those colonies that the rich and blood proprietors of the soil lived in this country, and persons of a de ferent stamp, and character, and feeling, resided there, who had toe SUperiaSCIAIM end control over the slaves. He would appeal es his lion. Friend ( Mr. Smithy, who had acted with the greatest libe rality towards his slaves at the time when he recommended a reform among them--and this recommendation was seconded by • ;Mee. Lary of State, who was known to be favourable to the abolitimd slavery, seconded, he repeated, by • very strong letter, stating, that if the conduct of the planters was net altered that the abolit ion weed certainly be enforced, he would ask the lion. Gentleman if, mt. withstanding this advice, his recommendation was not treated fads contempt and indifference ? He must tell the House that what he then uttered came from the bottom of his soul, and was founded on his moat decided conviction, that they ws-e then oo the brink ds precipice, and, if the greatest care was DOS taken, they would fill and be overwhelmed. The enemies of this measure had maned to the grossest falsehoods for the purpose of furthering their own views. Ho knew that it had been mid that he (Mr. Wilberfocee had written and forwarded pamphlets and papers to the lint Indies, to be disseminated among the black population ; tail s he repeated, was a positive falsehood. Indeed falsehood and mi sentation were the natural elements of the opponents of emancipa tion. It had been urged that the slaves were rendered refraMte and insubordinate, on hearing of the debates in that House; ;et it was forgotten, that in every island meetings took place, and Ms solutions were advanced disclaiming any reliance on this coon!?. These were afterwards public topics, that were canvassed in eery society, and he would take as an instance the island of Jamaice when each Member of the Assembly went home they naturally talk ed over the events of the day before their Negro servants, who sew consequendyenade aware—and it would soon be come known from me end of the bleed to the other—that it was the intention of the lkie fish Parliament to do something for bettering their condition, fed that their masters in the island were averse to any such interference; and this was the way in which the debates of the British Par*. meatreceired publicity among the blacks. Such to his knowlt has been the case in the Island of Jamaica. The slaves are on toe to know what see the deliberations of the Parliament ; they corer that his Majesty's Secretary of State, who seemed to be so fe verable to their intereet, is their enemy and when they hid hoped to have the cup of sweets presented to their lips, it is sue dente dashed away, they are disappointed, and they find at leneth that they must take their cause into their own hands. (Loud cries of " hear, hear.") No man would bewail such an event mere thin himself; to avert it was the subject of his constant prayer ; but ss he apprehended such a crisis he felt it to be his duty, as an heart non, to utter it. The light of day had soddenly beamed on them they were cow to be deprived of it, and thrust into darkness WM*. ever the Government intended to do to avert this evil, they sheetd do directly, for he was convinced that it was impossible for this Mr to pass over without something dreadful happening. IRS Hoe- Gentleman appeal to their own experience, when their rrasonabis and eager hopes were followed by such bitter d a mpointments—let them link to the causes of the French Revolution, aid they t en et acknowledge that it was trihiti' with popular fury that peeved that dreadful explosion—let elan look at St. Domingo ; s it ;hr ithechieti in that colony were brought on by the cacti:tee es of French policy, by first granting the colored population eerier rights, and then destroying them; the consequence of which was. their taking the arms into their own hands, of wlech all who bead him knew the result. (Hear, hear.) Whatever his Right Ron. Friend might mean, he was sure that his object would not be TWW• cot thvourably, either he the master or the leave, on the other side of the Atlantic. It had been stated that insurrections armee the leaves were not so frequent before the abolition of slavery as since: this lie denied, and he felt that he was in a situation to prove it lln .litiohicat there were great insurrect ems in 17tH, in lerie. it 1767, and in Grenada in 1757, and 1793 ; aed they used to harp! , continually, and there were frequently discontents on partitede eaNt(l4, which were carried to great lengths, though not cer eidertel an insurrection. He could not hope that the legiehti" assemblies would adopt the model which - his Right lloneuestit . Fri,nd wool , ' wish to act them; it shouk! seem that lie ye. do.i , our tit trying an experience*, and lie would introduce this in in 'fritedad and the Bahamas. There places are not fair coterie In Trinidad the proportion oldie African negro in greater than ese creole, and in the latter the Dutch are not remarkable for the mildness with which they treat their slaves; he therefore els opinion, that in these two places the experiment could not be Midi put to the test, ant! he (Mr. Wilberterce) therefore disavowed r although he was r, aced that a milder treatment was. te adoeted, eet he did toot think that the experiment was a red Pee As ter as Trinidad was concerned they did little for is; to by Spanish laws, the slaves were already at liberty to purchase tat 4 r II t 1 - 1 ‘,O 1 r 7 ( wows rusn llllaa alas ao . c le an. a5mw••••••,•....... il'elr Orgilit WCTt I.riptired to enjoy, or their 1 t'i..: blo.sings of liberty. (Cheers.) Theret g:.tiltilly, betnium, we then go early. This would lead them b..yond the bouilds of ruit, ~. try plan will take time. To be be sure at wi . t sure it should. Whims.) To be sure it mu we to do with the creation of yes:crtlav ? Ilal 11 it'll whose growth we have winched. whims measure, and whose consequences in every curately intimate ? No ! It is an evil of the is the growth of tens of centuries ; it is a ini the *ba ge—is state which, name or lesamodi was was MM. Ja the fulness of our passiti