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esti different malt would not have taken place from this Pit bees( now before year Lordship. ? The Noble Earl Litierpool) admitted it—for what was his argument when a ' ✓ecipe., 1 was made, I twills , e en my motion, to desist tenon this measure, for the tare's purpose ..f leaving it open for ':ispeathistent, what did he state ?—e Oh! but we must lost del-rive ourselves; if we had recourse to such a measure, we must nut deceive one.. free, for if we do that, it is . vales. to asserting that there shall be no proceeding at all.' 'll by was chit stated except that he hetieved that if an im peachment had hero propnetd to the noose of Commence t hot the House of Commons would @weir beer. presented ? My Lords. in no way eats the case be stated to be more f tvonrahle to the Queen. It possibly 's.) , be more favour. :tit.- I t the 'only, but to the innoceol let me ask whether it Fuss he room favourable, to a person falsely accused and i•no- V.lll of it,. charges liresight atrium her • For what is the course of now proceeding ? The florten is first tried here cud pronounced upon; it may carried into the other "louse, trod when you roam to ilk second trial you have the power ai .sinruding the case, and prodiseirs fresh evidence, and f rom w h a t has b •en opened to you before another ....art, b• fore whom the whole process most tom n La s sgsiu. My Lords, I say, consider such a dent when all the influence of Government is to be @serene. es Ibis Pint I think it a most disadvantageous protkodieg. The Noble awl Learned Lord has said, that this is She east ut all Rills of Divorce, that they originate heir, and am 7,firriii as discussed is the Moose of Cosnecovie. Now consider Divorce Bilk in a different annilion to Rills in• solving questions of Slate, and all those 'public interests nod p miens which usually influence such proceedings ; tlenr , —We are told by commencing this proceeding here net,, has the same advantage as of a sew trial. .But, @sir Lord., tho y have not the power of exissiniag upon oath, mid the solemnities with which this Bonk is vested— ,h.• House of Commons cannot have the Aseistante of the Yarned lodges ou points of law. It is seodiog it down as to a Court of Appeal, do not say to a lower tribunal, hut rta oily to one possessing none of those advantages. Ido asuit It to b. ing the order of things. Now, my Lords, hooever, suppose after we have passed the Bill the House Commoos throw it out with disgust—(Cheers)-1 can ewniVl' nothing more horrid—nothing more frightful— (' ontirtried cheers)--than .anch , a proceeding! I have • said more on' W. part of the subject than I hi-cause, as I said before, I have already stated riyopiuion 111.0,1 it. The ime for That discussion is ;one pas*. Now, lily Lords, I have not the least hesitatitm in ski. veg Molt I made op my mind to art upon the evidence that should be product il. 1 own this is not the sentiment of lastly of my Nohk Friend., on whose opinion I feel the - gr. twat reduction in id ruling from, and great distrust in thy own when tomb is the Mir ; but I feel placed in this beililiwo, that if 1 thought it mark out so as to justify the • gradatiois her Majesty, I Aid plated on this alternative, either corsentiag to fla by thia law the priniiihment due to • such as offeare, or suffering her to remain tainted on the, the .ne, tainted as she must be by such proofs made aesiost r. But, my Lords, what then ar., the proofs of this inns proper sod licentious conduct ? The cute to he made out, toy Lord., should hare beets a case of conduct so stands- loos and so liceestious, that the Claret' could out be suffer. el to retain her high prirvigatives of rank and atm ion, and that it would be ittjutitior to 0.., huno•tr of the Crown and the best Ininests of 141• country for her so to retain them. My Lords I cannot FL: to ihiv Miler than in 11w words of the preamble of the Rill, which was ri fermi to yesterday by tilt Noble and Learned Friend, whose Wien option in the m:dat of his milieus, in conformity with the prioeiples . . . . or 1.1 • glorious lifr--(iatti 'hero—a-wiled yusar Lordship.' Its. lit .1 reamsl end sympathy. %Simi is it the persuade m.itts? 'bat her Ms' j ..ry hsriog ta ken 11 11$010111e W 18. I , fUlali into her *entice, an unbecoming and diszuming to icy renemeneral between her Royal Highness and the said R. !Sergeant, sad Oro her Royal Highness not only ad- •aaced the said R. lierganti In a high situation in her korai Highemmeo hast.claild, and received him iota her service, and Hilt its hie' and confidential situations about her Royal Highness's person, hot bestow. ..I upon hint other great and extraordinary rirok• of (senor and &abortion, oh. taint) fur him ordats of knighthood and titles of 'boomer ion! coriferred upon him a pretended Order of Knighthood, tof:bri s Sew Royal Highness lad taken opus herself to iasti tnle without any just or lawful authority and whereas her 'sot Royal flightless, whits. the said B Bergand wits in her mid art vice, further unmindful of her exalted rank and • station, and of ditty In your Majesty. and wholly regardless of her own !immune and character, cuisdi,cted herself tow.trols t!.e said 8. Bergami, and in o!!itir 'respects, both in public a-id private, in the varluns 'slimes and contdries whit b brr 'Ciro' Highness visited, wilts Indecent and offensive famili• arty souffreedom, aid carried on a licentious, disgraceful, and mluiterusts nit( renust wills lie said B. Ihvgioni, which e.•ntiaseed fur a long period of time, during her Royal High. e•aes's residence sin oat, by whit h con.-hart of her eaid Royal Wetness great tcaislol anti dishonour have burn 6.011 7 Mi your Majesty's family soil this kingdom. Now. my Lords, the way in which this was to be made was us! by a r I.evi sinsp:rfulaltery, but by n raw of nal.l !Trilliums comfort, math as 'aerie.' ate tmsuur of the • town sad the character of 11), nation, soul tbit h. r conduct Or 48401 h 33 WOUld retokr the 'tootle dreaded by permitting h.► to sit opow it. I say this wto Ike case stated, and I roo tlets,' that nothing skint of a ease of this flews intim' 'OO4 jussify i siat h a measure. If this w. re Ilse car , I ask, Jo *hill 1111.1110C1 was it to he ipitive4l lly in. sistible proof! — t ''en►, /.tar)—by I. eilecray evettolioa all colour of ilia. 1..•• t "—by "—by witne•ses aiu,sr all imputation or , suspicion !! ! Wear, Lear, tear.;- Ile would rriamiabi, thin in propor tion 43 the sank ut the person scrim tl was eitalled—as the pc.ottleocumovitient upon conviction acre treat, tareosive, n , ,el *I v•re-fn ail the prucerelings resior,ird to in the car w• re an•+nd r anintiatuns..lllllestranrcliintry—as Ihry were • tirpartasse from dl establitthrtt principles of law an,l jive. e•re —*or. hear)—io she rime t.turntiou, hr rani, she ✓e., nes rt witted to Mete b.-eis awlr unt by .hr tnu►t sett& factory. essgsfaritial, ironviacteng hear.) — N . doubtful Cr contradictory It unfavourable .petatlmptioas, driesr• from the OSASCIMIIIII of had or re•yas diaracten—usei coostrocilous, 110 11110 . 1.11" iiiii ; taut *We.. the positive teethsouy of Buell iittefet —nay, out eten thit moral cosseictiuti which had been re firer., 1.. by a 'Noble Lorti, would be euffi. nut • bond.' • we'd*, of gni:ly ins—a.thirg shout of the cl..r, no. ha.; ach , ble ftetemony of creditablr, competent Wit. messes, lading to the certain ieifereffee of undeuit guile—oulhiug, he repeated, short of this, ought to lead to that cooeto•ioo.--(ffeor, /.ear.)—(la all the charges be liad me etioneed. the hrtirvtates for the Rul uo longer se. bed; the abide t f the c!nwees had its ladled down hub the cundoci of -her 11.1,1 Fliglisiest doting her vii)ago atee board the polscte—(Cries of " !fear, hear, hear" ) sod he confessed that he Led felt a degtt e f burp. her, • lieu be had been ,inallid upon Iv argue the question her, rr the Horse on math • gemmed. He should nu*, hoot vet.. creel to the eomitleration of She cost, wt le as it wile ghoul, glib She ishestios of thole who bad priAsteel thren•etts floi re est zealous, cad to their speeches hail 'hewn the must able is the tuppott of this Hill. Aud bele he NINA, if at the conetiosion of the A elosory-Grest 'mooing speech any pesos road brie f • it 11..1 its s.,Apsf People., that cm, sit adultery, froth •hies all sloe ...Me /teem ores of attestor. 'caudal, and cram. frt., 11..0r as from their source, seed climb bad been *u remittently described and prturristly repo so switte 1 by Nest lassoed Geollernao-ii-ef, he stud, say persoli couid Shea beer fel ceete. flint the rase of Naples, tut castor G. ~ea, the owe uf Genersl l'ion'sboose, the rata of Catania. doe ease of Trieste, the ease of Casts. the. t h e case of she V.lla Mvs.di, as saute tot by the dancing and Ma itotereat and disc uoi ;9.4 arrows he bowls and carri.sar•—r,lsat asked, any we had Curs sets: that all thew t h stars, •• ore at thew s:roug hulas hr •Issndustrit—sf the 'shone east was Iss be meowed, as Is Ltd !.rt., to lite simple tase of lbe at.ketl theta a uuld tlso sr LAW! brigs Amy bevitaileat. la "Puy man who futes.as this, la y ing sh ut she Sill email Dos ro ou '—( flear. hear.;—Fbith. 1. he sated the N4.bie E.rrup.puvo It (Eas I 11..sver punt), u Ise hati teilruslursli the dell assu slot Humor, as a matt of tumour, and oh. shee p hyo..g loos band vu bar heart, he sound Oa), that bad he Itstuwa this ova all he should be able to prove, be would have brought down she 3lr..sace• free his Majrsty, or proposes say of those subsequent sm inures which had led the say to the present qutalsou ? Nu Ines at she cuoieurucenieui et these proceedlog. would have veutared to afire, slot after fatly bee eLey.' ievestlgenua of the cae, they should new, when it watt in its twill'. hour, be called •pois to pass a Bill fur the degradation Nod the consigning the (Amen of England to Warn, and rain, on the single ease of the pole ere Heft?, heir /—That, wee the c m on clock they were now called on to vote for thus Bill. He knew shoe there were other eircomowters, whieb, iu the opinion of some ' dill not go abs o lutely to nothing, and his Notate Friend near hint (the Earl of Lauderdale, we anderstood), in contoseeitiog on *hose ohoeivetions he showed be °Wird • I to trevrout longer on their lenalshors' time thaw he could have wished—(//ine, liene)—but the momentum* import ! aver of the occasion left him no other coigne. His Nettle ,Friend, be said, though he discarded from his attention Ike r proofs of these several fart., as proofs of each cage, did yet take iihein to the aggregate as a wet of istAke.weighta in the rare, sod ss assisting in she resort, the one case on which he onainly relied. Without meaning any disparagement to the Noble and liaised Lord who had 'wean the debate (the Lord Chancellor), one to the all.. r Noble and Learned Lord (Bedevil:del on the crow , hetscher, nor to any other Noble Peer who had spoken in favour of this Rill, he thought it .right to premise that his Noble Friend (Lord Lawierdale) ..was the person to whom he fell most isclined to &direst, himself, betwase he was the individual who had delivered the .moat powerful speech on that sole of the question, and that ~whieh was likely to make the moot impression uu the public .wind. The Noble Lord then, adverting to the latterpart of Lord Lauderdale's speech, in which he vindicated the am. lives of his political conduct on the pr gent 0W1146111, and re . pelted the imputations throwu upon them, said, that be gale his Noble Friend credit fur acting with all that hoar-silt/ and conscientious integaity to which lie had laid claim. Noble Friend haul complained of a clamour having peen raised against him oat of doors, He (Earl Grey) tee* of its existence, but he one no party to it. lie bossed his No. ble Friend knew him too will to suppose that after in at. quaintanceof 30 years with the purity of his mind and lode penitence of his charact. r, hr stentld now take sip an oplaion of both different bum that which leis former experience had taught hint. He knew that his Noble Friend, when be took up a cause, carritil into it so much (nice and cemen ter*, (and be ought la be as willing as any person to make •Iluwances fur the display of unitive and seal, its advocating any quest ), as to aflonl an opportunity fur misconstruc tion to those wbu wrre tout so well acquainted with his habits and diapositian as he wee. lint giving him credit Me imp porting the Bill from upright motive., he regretted that Ike felt him.. If obliged to differ r him very materially, not wily on the grin cal result and conelue ))))) to which he had come, lint also in ievectl of the views he bad taken, and the etaterni Cita lie haul made, which, be could not lint say, hail not Wets made with hi. usual correctness and accuracy. Ilia Noble Friend lied Weals with corieridersog the original situation of Bergamo, and his p non by her Modesty, and also the cocumatarices of all hi. family hawing, hero taken into her Majesty's service. He was not inclined to follow him in !hie course, for this reason, that there was a great part of his statements whirls be was conipelled to Ml mil. Ile admitted that Bergamt had been in the situation of a courier, thou.:li lie thought there was ev . .dence of hie having been of a good family, and reduced; which was Coll firmed by the yin:um-Inner of his siege, a fact that had not been contradicted, haring been married to an lteltan No. bleinan. But be admitted! that he hail been a tinnier. of manners, however, superior to that station elide placed in it—a fact, further .vidi stet. of which was in proof, that when raised to one above it, he had not forgot ten himself, or &splayed any weruntption in conse• Tomer of his elevation. He agretd with a Noble Feul ite the gallery who had delivered his opinions on this subject some note ego— that t' n. elevation was of itself a su.picious chrome:ince. list be begged leave to rescue that Noble laird from the construction pot upon his sentiments by his Noble Friend, who had said ghat that was enungh to justify the -passing of the Bill. Far from it ; be had said that the poi motion of Bergami was a tircometance of a onspicious nature; hut to justify the proposed measure, declared it not sufficient to wind:tits astspitions, or siren to be impressed with a moral compaction, but that j u dicial proof was indis pensable. Such pr. cieely were his owl. sentiments. The reasons which some individual, hail for voting for this whoop law was this astspicioti—lie also had his suspicions. He con fessed that die elevation of Bergami was a ciicuenstance nut free from suspicion ; it was a diviation frorn that high rank and dignity which a PrinCeill or a Queen of England ought to maintain. But though there might be surpicions of lea. promiety of conduct, these could not maw' in the place of loured guilt —( (/toe, hear)—ntuels lees such guilt as would justify any man in vonog in favour of this law. Consider ing what was the usual conduct of persons who moved is the same exalted rank with her Majesty, might, he ihungilto a little mitigate the se es rity of the judgment which would otherwise he laTollUUlie. II on Ie rs. Thi• might seem para doxical, but ht . COlll.l tool folio iir sayiug that the elevation obit rte.' to, wits much less smelt:clams in her Majesty's case then in that of ale root of inferior rank. Why, Fritters stud Prior, sea wile r ilArd to such all endwise* above all inferior mortals, that like a p. rson placed on a mountain, the On j. et. h. low tin m lost lion hue forms mud propoitions s and then fare Ihs y Me.-d to dispense with common rules in the ilisidlostion of their fevuers.—Hear, hear, hear)— ll.sisk., they possessed the rower w bids belonged to no body !unite., of roomy; to title and hootour, whom they pleas. d.—' !/car, hear )—Hr agreed, Iwo, that the promo lion of a pi font of Here sine. ii. script ion loon raw ice and favour, was a very dill. trot thing f that advancement viIOCO ii was r ,sle tud boast or a fort conany tu see pi 44.114 originally of low rank; out tiaisig through a long gradation ..f meritoriems cervices. 800 was the (Wren, then r.re, to be condemned, because Bergami may possibly have been meow thtly advanced ? Was out all Maury pr. g rant with s x nnptes of persons raised by Sovereigos from the lowest adusti 11l s le the hightit opulence and rink, from no better ntotit cis titan m. rt caps ire rod favour? He said then, that this suspicion oos to be looked at with qualifi cations on oisity giouttils, hut par:limbo ly on the consitho union of the coutitry in which the (limn hid been at this time residing. la that cutaway revolution and war had in a peat degree overihroo sr the formerly great, the noble, and the illustrioos, ,aull raised to their plat. the humble, ninon., and stoksausru. What was llie So vereign of that Cowl (Mural) ohm' the Queen re mthal at the ti ss ue of this advancement of Bergson? And were we nut tom in amity and Whetter with wee Save 'riga ) whose ratractiun was nut higher (hall that tot thin bruit tot the present story !—(/fecte, hose.)--He I t again admitted that the i hvation of B egansi was a theism. stance of •u.picont, bat giving it all the weight and im 'midwife which ought to be attached to is, it was but sh.pncion, and a Swirls' could nut Wend us Hie ?fare of that prui.l on *hie!, a..y legistati•• measure, more especially one of this minim, cuui,i he passed. By certainty and Ifruth alone conk! such a measure as this be derided. 'that being so, how stood the case against the Queer? The Queen was cliai gra with an aOulteretla twe.tuurne, wad with a fenti. !Unity with a cerfai:s iutliwolu•l, tots ten ou nutter eircum. Italitta disgii.l sue, iudsrent, and disgraceful in her own rank awl station, and the elm/atter of the country. Some there welt deposed to, wh:cli if establialed satiaftcmeily—if the witness. II on *hum they matted acre worthy of credit, could leave no &tilt( in the rase. If their Lordshipa could be. liter Majocelo —if they could bells re Deruewit—if they runlet beiwire Saceld, tar4e would be an end to the ciao.; it sewed be ct nspletel?? poured, sar far as the guilt or hum clime of her Maje.ty sir cow eroril But dour Lotdalaips bad bitted it • acknowledg.d by the siipporters of the Bill, that all the facts sour. to by these witnesses were to he discarded, with the snugly except of that at Camilla. at by were they to be discarded ? Weimar the wit. Newes woe ins esblr4 , Inctose the m ton facia Ito whirls they hail swoon w. se •tell.d by lb, author. and stsppur ters of the Bill wit to be facts wi which they could rely for the etmeorrence of the Howe use the monad reading. But btu Not& Filead oil the truss beach (the Earl of Lab. &Waite) hail said, that though Ilbrre Were Many Centraille- Ilona in Majoechi's s volt sato, still he was nut peerages' to s bt might not hew.: atwitter a gleet deal of truth ; that, in short, the evoleofe of 31. j... chi was uut waterially rlam ores! ; that Veinunt, too, though o u t 4 utterly to be depenil.d any war in the main • good whores.; mud that Swain was Not, pe r imps, an g o od ae either of the other two; burl that, 1•11- , big all 'lwo. teminionies Its the aggregite, though he dud nut • implicitly rely sepanyely ton ray woe or thew, awl coupliwg . them with the other co rum tames of he elevens.o of fler ganii, said au faith, they did furno.sach a masa of evidence as to cutiviocc his mind of she troth of the grand change . . which these witnesses had b. en all wolk•og to establish. Wa• this right &cerise! Was it I. he reduced that proofs, which-were ha I singly, rhombi h• Mild to become wood in she aggregate' Was such a eargeolidation of el imaged Side. and damaged 'violence ever beard of In an ogee (bet ewer yet was, or ever could be thought into a Court of Justice, where the consolidated evidence was proved to be filar, would the Court ever allow the cane to go to jedgmeest Ye a single fact of suspicion or doubt ; fur if the main pillars of the case were goose, e•pecially if there was n sus. rice ssss of suloomation, bribery, and perjury, which has been all proved to have (*laird is Bose ease, ins Judge would suffer such a case to go In a Jury. lie showed that it would rot be mid by any man that it ought; suit if he wonted any authority to support this opinion, he 'rook' refer to a declaims of that 'reeled sod acute Judge, Sir William Scott. His Lordship then riled the following ',seine from the judgment of Sir %I'm Scott. in the case of Evans e Evans e...-••• If you have a criminal feet aseersaiserel, yon may then take presumptive proof t., *hew whet did et, to fie the erimiusl, having then au actst ii corpse dellrfl. Stew wie, then, in this case, that a crime has bees committed. and I shall nut be at a toss to fix the creamiest; bet to take presumptions in order to swell so equivocal fart, a fact that is absolutely omehignous in its owes ginture, into a etiminal feet, is • mode of proceeding of a very different nature, and would, I take it, be an en tire naheapplication of the doctrine of presomptiogis. This fact,jhen, not bring a criminal our upon the face of it, mod being sadeject to three or for diffegent interpretations, all of which are perfectly innocent, I think myself by no means at liberty to say, that I ought, by ;Resumption merely, to tanks out this fact to be necessarily an act of delimpieury." Again his Noble Frien4 oil the cruse-benches (the Earl of Lauderdale) eonsidereel certain parts of the charges to be r impletely established, though they stood me the evidence of !Samna alone; because, though that witness was In such eircarnstances that he conlot not in general rely on her un supported teslimonyop t as oh! bad vouched other persons as being privy to the facts alleged, whom it Sas in the Queen's power to have produced, and as these persons were nut called by her Majesty's Counsel, be therefore felt him. self soldieed to infer that she bad in these instances spoken the tenth. He (Earl Grey) thought it a hard thing to say to an seemed individual, where it was the duty . of the promechtur to prove guilt, and not to presume it, that wise° • witness is brought, who with respect to all the other parts of his evidence is lurid so suspicious that no rrlinnce can he placed 011 his testimony, yet because he heel sworn to tic's of which he alleged other persons to be witnesses, and because these persons so mentioned had nut been called to contradict him, that therefore sorb witness was eighth d to credit. With respect to one of those persona, 'rose alseuer waa snook a pre miseption of her guilt. she coedit not be produced, se ha to contradict what had been slated by Demons. It INA been said, indeed, that one most maltreat statement of that "tithes' could have heels contracted by Ma. girlie Brim, because Demand spoke of Marlette Broil when the Quern posited one morning at Catania out of Her. gam.'* room with a pillow under her arm. But it was to be observed Mal Delmont slit not say that she was certain or I M. Won's 'vowing been present on that occasion, and thus saved herself . from brio. contreilicted. Fur let it be sup. posed that M. Ikon had been callrd to the bar, and said fleet she di wer was in the tenet when the Quern penult through it in the manner tvpreso Herd, he thought he could imagine what would Le said to this by the auppentets. of the Bill. ' Thus is nu coutraffiction of Dement, because she server asserted that M. Bruit had been in that room when the ()mese was passing through it.' If the Countess °oh had been called, and bad sworn that the (torah had pained the whole, or the greatest psi t of the night iu her room the night the child Viceoriste had been braid to cry, every body knew that her teeti sssss ny would be liable to this objection, that the Queen might have stolen oat of the room without her sdnierv•tion, and, moreover, that shelled been broiled there to cue. r the criminal intercourse, and that therefore no credit was due to her . .testimuny.—(flear, hear, hear.) — He thought that her Majesty's Counsel, in not calling these nervous as 'witnesses, bad not dune any .thine enore•than be longed to them is the exercise of a sound discretion--and that from els. ir abstaining to produce them, it ems not to be inferred that they did hot believe that the facts sworn to by the witnesiges on the other stele admitted of eoutraglie reoss. la 'impost of this ',Onion, his Lordship entered tutu 1111 exhumation of the situation in which bee Ma jesty stood with respect to those pennon who had out been called as witnesses; and as to the 'Oration iu which these persons would have stood with respect to the Maus., when exposed to the recognise and learassiug sort ef exmainatiou in which their Lordships had shewn themselves disposed to indulge. Plias kite Brun seed Use Countess whose ab.egice was chiefly complaiued of, when produced merely to contradict certain statements iu the evidence ro r the pros coition might have been examined as to every cit.. ciemstauce of ibeir knowledge of' her Majesty, duriug the many years they were in 11.-r service, and if with respect to any one circumstance they had been caughe tripping ever Sp slightly, the lyux-eyed sight—(.l laugh).—uf his Noble Friend (Lord latederolale; wroth) have perceived it instantly, rend he would have oxelasme el, • Here are witnesses brought to contradict others as to eel lain points, but in other points they have given false testimony theseielves. • --(f/ear.)—He would declate that such evidence was insufficient to support verdict, and be hoped he did not judge too harshly of his Noble Friend, woe's be said that he would &Airwave!, affirm that such persons were altogether unoirservine of credit, mid that no jury would believe them on their uailss.—(lleor.)-.- Su made with respect to Deemed. He greatly (rased that he was Ift'llpabliUl/ at lust great length on their Lurelooltips' lime, but he could nil eoneiseeotly with Isis sense of duty abstain (emu touching on every part of the case which was deserving of comentoot.--(ilear, hear.)—He would not go into a detail of all the contrail:chews in the evidence fur the pcoseention, but he should request the attention of their Lordalsips to some of the more remarkable of them. It was wise hit her Majesty's Counsel not lu call Demesnes . sister, after it was proved in evidence that they bail curres'pogoleol, which correspondence was faille(' on iu doehle,enfendre, if Dement herself was to be believed. How could they depend opens the sister speaking the truth? she might have been cor rupted; however, the re sere such circumstances of auspi. mum is to cause them, and he dialogist they bail acted wisely, nut to call that gill. The Couusel declared that they used I hei own discree ion and jetolgnseut in nut calling these witnesses; for et was her Majesty'. wish that all should be fully te 'statue& The Noble that corrected a misapprellensiou which, he suadeentood,lllai prevailed with respect to the pledge gives licr Majesty's Couuael to call Marlette Brost to contradict De. moat respeoting the Qoseen's passiug from Heresies room into her owe' through bees ([knout'*). He had understood them only to promise to produce that person tee be examined 'amenities to the conduct of her Majesty,restreaug so them selves, at the same time, a olescretionary power to keep her beck, should they afterwouthe see realms su to do. Here lois Lordship proceeded to comment at some length stn those parts of the evoleuce of Majocclti,Sacchi, and Dens out, is which they hail either flatly contradicted Menu:elves, Of wire met by the ft drat contradict lOUS from other persons ottani mimeo-It. able credit. It was impossible, he cut.cludril, fur any wean who wished to do justice to place any reliance on their testi mony. Iles Noble Friend (Lor.l Lesusierdele) consmented with great severely use doe evidence of Li. got. Howsoun, and yet, 11361, that the evidence of Majoechi we. not gnatly cou l'adieteel—but his evidesice had bees full of couiradictions. Desuiesiing the &ciente 'of Carrington altogether, there were various contradictions of Majoeche, bud' by tallier wit. Memos mid by hossele He 0110 l out remember things which it we. not possible but he must haie rethembered, mail that ha a great msold.dole of instances. For instance, ashen be was asked whether the beets which belied been ios the habit of melting higneelf, hall sheets on thetas, he did not know ; sail when asked where the livery servants slept, he did not recollect. Similar institutes of fingetfulnews occurred forty or fifty tien.• in the course of lots cruswegamiseatiusg, and therefore be and that be was a "romans us disercleteel mut disqullified, that it was impoasible any man could give credit to his evideuce. But he could swear to hearing a creaking iie thr bed under the tent through the deck of die putsere, and he could &seethe the me g he wished your Lordokips to put upon float mow. lie was olisveserot to hear the fellow, his &wankel the nee of a bottle sake-abed him. and he was surmised tisat the Counsel fur the Bill should press such a Ottani quesitoei. filiajogebt sae asked—es Du you know a presage sosesed H mem ?" He mtiseered, : " NOR ire ricordo ;" seed be the-weeds edliileed that em his, sad that they were swat great oast intimate rle that be used to roll him " brother !** Woe hot tits eowtrarlietioa clear awl derisive! The too priori- Psi "Ilvcsisys. Utrotort, Sierhi, Ka/M.lli, tool wcht, hot 'hero proved Sc be anwiwilly of the leas. credit. Thev seq.' all discarded servants, they were diachaig , il it. 1617, sod all the proof of sospieirm of volt was riiiihoril to tlw nose our had charged ores, ass impropriety :mire those wretches bail left her service. Three treasures were all termerl away, too, for mieronatact, and two of them after they lead possess • I Mew of imam tent secrets. ClosuotTiairl! was it likely. wasirt to he credited. this • moose like bee Majesty, sisppoishig that afte had hi en godly of she comlurt imputed to Ism I that she would have shriek urged those savants in Anal boaunes sa.ch important secrets wave bilged, when, at the same time she knew of the esiatewee of the Milan Commission ; whew she hue+ that she ass menroond ed by spies anal po rime endeavouring to easier her do enemies to swear ateisist her life sod eherader It wooildi be fully to aupprwe that she *mid have acted so madly—he admitted the possibility that she might have &memo; but as dui drew issfeiences against her iu some raises, they t is this instance draw the la-relive in her, favosee, and that the witursys•ll perigee - ed. Dreamt sullen...it that else wee ohs charged for saying that which was false; she admitteds, it i her evidence, and in her letters ; she also idrnit led the }rewire of her discharge ; she admitted her conduct wills Sarehi had been improper ; aloe admitted Shot their connexion bad hero criminal ; fur in the letter she apologia•d, and attributed her conduct to that fatal passion whieb had !wined her. Could any one !Believe this wanvi s rvsdruee' She swore deal her Majesty's drew* at the bill was ieedr. MO, and Sir 11'. 1;r11 Swore it was nut, and so did others, whose ee•leiire could not be excepted. She also said, that Berganii was threropearters of au 11.111 fis the Plio cene. room at Naplee, when she ass changing tv 'dress. If this had 110 l been disproved completely by Sir William Cell, lie could out have believed the statesmen; for if the parties were sleeping together nielitly, It was ant likely Sb they should take that opportunity to be Is tether for asset. a purpose, especially that her Majesty should place Deinoist at the dour to witness her guilt. The state ment was evidently the isivesitloll of the fPll.de chansbre. Bat Sir Wm. Cell, whose love if autiquily is wall known, had given • description of the dress, which proved it to have been the directly reverse of indecent. As to the alleged exposure of critain parts of her Majesty's person, if it were even true, he was afraid he might readily find instanelki, according to the modern moaners of elevated society, to justify that departure from good taste sail delicacy; and, be believed, that many even of their Lordships might have poise to lament float exhibitions of this Hawn: should he ,hooked upon as usfeleisees of the existence of guilt. Sin 'cerely, indeed, dot lie wish for II reformation in this r esp. et ; mid if this proceeding were attended with us, tether Orel died, he trusted that at least it would operate as an instructive lestaan to tEe fr males of England, Si, correct the elm:cores of this indelicate fashion. 11., hoped the eta now pro nounced ou the Queen of Eitglaud would not be lost upon them, but that it would impress on them the c onrietion that the more absiesniors they were is, the display of their cha r m., Ike more attractive anal lovely would limey appear in the fr m of oho other sex ; and deal s to use the lairgisege of a II celebrated writer," viantoieNsentsfrn mew; Motto e pin hello " Majiwchi swam that her Maji sty was present wheel Dr. Hol land dressed the foot of Bergami : Dr. Holland swore it was not tree. It was said by the Noble Earl (Lauderdale) that this feet was uninspos (ant ; it was impurtatil, fur it ass given in evidence to shew the familiarity of the ponies ; and if it was unimportant why was it given ill evidesice at all ? The fact was this—the witticisms had b. en brought to p wuve duo numb, and they said that which refuted their owes evidence. Sarchi swore to the disturbaare et Dover, and he swore that was the cause of his changing his name; yet it earned lint that the disturbance did nut take place till a year after that period. Ile also swore that he rode up to the car. riage of her Majesty, between Home sad Senegaglia, use morning, and wick', the cartains, and reload her mid Bergami in • situation which be would out &scathe It had been proved by • member of witnesses that this state mem was (-wifely false. Carlo Forts swine that Sacchi was nut the courier on the joarney, but himself. Vss.sli con firmed him, and Colonel Olivieri corroborated both ; sod what was more important than all, they proved that it was nut an lialtau carriage in which her Majesty rode, but an English earsiage, in which there were 1111 certain% but I glasses and blinds. Therefure,it was a natural impoesibiliey that Swan should have undrawn the curtain* as he stated. With this observatiun be should dismiss Sacehre evidence. He next came to that part of the evidrece respecting which the Noble Earl nn the erosa.beuch declared that he bad eight witnesses left whose testimony had not been replied le, all of snimpeaclsed character as witnesses. As to those witnesses, tier eirruinstances which they had deposed to were in themselves of • very questionable character ; massy of them hail been entirely disproved, as, fur iuslarce, she wretch who had related the Adam sad Eye story; aud an other witness, of about the same credibility, was Gangiari, who had been disproved by another boatman. The Noble Earl hail asked, in reply to the testimony of the latter, that it was no proof of one man nut having seen a thing, that anuflor man, in a situation very similar, had nut also sees it. And again, lime Noble Lord hail said, that it was no proof that Bergami had not kissed the Priams on the Lake at C 0,.,., that a blind boatman had not witnessed it.— How the Noble Lord, uotwitlistauding the acuteness of vision, the Ibex-eyed vigilance with which he was able lu detect and bring to light every circumstance in the testi mony which bore against the Queen, while be could discover none that made for her, had been able to discover that the witness for bee Majesty in this ease was blind, considering the distance from which the Noble Earl had viewed that witness, was more than he (Earl Grey) could account for. Certain it was that the Noble Earl diactiverad that defect in her Majesty's witness, mud had asked him if he had not fur nierly bad • complaint in his eyes? The witness replied, , that lie had had such a complaint, but that he was then Icured of it. Indeed he was now reminded by his Noble Foetid arse him, that the case was eves, stronger than that; for the witness had nut been @tier el with the complaint in his ties Until a cousideralele period after that is, which the transaction had rieturred respecting which he had been ones tioned by the Noble Earl. How stood she ease then! Gan gisei swore, that in his restore L rgami kissed the his. eras; suit here he was compelled to observe one of she must extraordiwary eircumatances attending ibis clam of evidence- WWI it not to the last dektee surprising; that her Majesty should have chosen to display these gross iristaaces of hire adulterous alreceiese before plasterers, mailing, carpenter., boatmen, Osherow% scull' , ostlers, and all sisal *sass of vagabond. which had been exhibited at theirLorrlideips' bar! Was it nut remarkable, that she should hare laid tepee her crimes and iudisereeions to the view of these profeue and vulgar wretches, in sbur t, to the uletervation and detect ter of every one except F.melsolourse aril Pletsipoteatiaries? that as it ma), C.:nov:lli verweleed Lem) Majure to prove the indecency *lnds he oleser itwol to have takes place in the boat. Majore some, that he was the cabin Mau Clue giari, and he saw no mach idling. This general remark ute all the witnesses of that class, that the facts to which they de. posed, were in every instance exceedingly suspicious anal duiebtful his threnody's. Geraldisi; a mason, having • great many nsen Waidag, and wasting to see the factor, foam; his way into the Ptiacese's sitting.room, where he discovered, in a place in whirl, she might have flats. real herself has she would bate been free froM such me intibsion, the Priticees sisal Itergasui committisag a particular att of indecency! What inciedibility could attach be such • story The fact, in its very naeure, must be (site, sad they mast hook at all saris testimony wish the go retest sit opirioe They *ere bunted to remark smother esreeseastauer ; it ass im proof, Sham Rigault had ivalueed ftaseelli Is, appear, sisal give rve. drier of as indecency whirls he would not then repeat. On somber occasion Riganti had solicited a witness, New ' to give evidence against the P r i ncess; and w h en P osse* de clared that lie knew uothiug loot good of she Primeval., Rigaseti asked 'Owl to swear that he had area Brigand put hits hand up the petticoats of the Princess while Weir' her us, horst:hark. When they found this proved in evidence, and when they mw bi-fort them isolator-roof lestiessoney which perfectly coerespoinled with it in every thing bat the def. /event et gore* ad surerwe in the •ppliealion—when they sib. pervert that many of these persons sere aliansefselly well paid, mast they nut feel convinced, that in the comstry from which these tales ewe impiarltd, there mast hive beta • general anderiteetaing, and that people of the reek of Ilene slimes& s rust have said to l's martyrs, and to one *nettle r, 6 6 Dl.' we hire moths*: to do belt go and give evidence of a kiss, or some other 111 t of familiarity, mid our buieiress is dour, our fortuities steely made." But to dischsrge thew there wear other considerations cunor lied with I hoar facts which rendered them wholly i nee p dile if brine believes'. So adodemious, ess reserved, are ur d. lag to Hoek awn trsitorasty, bad every one of the winterise, beets, 'hit tint ward ob. y had beets applied to by ille,police, or some Other agent., did they ever discovt r their know. le dee, and them eel train 11w7 hot been hrought before the '. 3fi bin Commission. Its other wrende, the facie had never en tered their heeds ntsfill they were 'merest/4 and p u s i wit , ',heal by the Aldan Cionntiesime Pet why, he alike!, were ' llteee morons's sn laveriably confined in rank and clearer's r to wretches of the vie, lowed dere:lotion—such as lied I been preseitiel at thew bare The Alt y•General had untested oil it glint this was trite natural. that it ear i only reasonable to suppose that her Royal Higliee'e would screen her iteleceiteses from the observation of the ' English and people of rank, and le.• hum reserved heron ' the base met metes' persons who came near her. Fur IL s • 1 olnervetiers the Learned Cumin.' had received merit re._ 1 plisse from the N.ib'e Earl 11111 the crams.besich ti n 1, i then, was the Q oust wholly ignorant al the tom- 11. d I , r C nui.ICI was subject Its the obouvatism of tier. , '.l a. j it likely that she who toot' be so abstemious in eie (tie' iy of her impropriety tar fest. uf detection by the i En g le sh, woolil he divsolute and whelly withirat reserve b,. fore thole ill.entelrioned wretches who had bees displayed s w ie u i e them? Wee it prideible that its* country where evi dence was porchaseable as any other commodity, she would wantonly lay herself open to the view of those whole con. eciences were the moat marketable: lie could not trust in any evirleoce of that description. It was one of the mishit ppy couseqUences of thi• measure that, ointwithslauding tlie in. clination of the House to follow the advice which had been given nut to let party ',relives or feelings for a moment in terfere, that they were obliged lo comment with severity liptill the different opinions of each in relation to this tries_ tion. Apnlegraing as Le did to the Noble Earl on the cross. hooch, sad professing to call him his Noble Fecal, he could Friend, he could not lint remark on what hail falba front hint with regard to the evideuee of Captain Briggs. The Noble Earl relied on Capt. Bliggs having stated that there was complete faiility of common irat ion between the sleeping retsina 'Attie PrIIIiVAII and Bergami on hoard the I.evfullus. it.. the other hand, Captain Briggs had proved that other }Demme slept its cabins opening into the diniag-rown, that hii :111,11 rot was sit siting ; that he mast have heard if any one intern into the dming•rocn frum any of the cabins; I that the ufficers were perpetually in cneormen icat ion with lens slitrieg the night as to the onimagetnent of the ship arid the stale of the weather; that a sentinel sae on duty at the 0..... e of the dining room; sod, in conclusion, Capt. Briggs had slated, in the eirong.et tennis, the from all he bail witsiewil of the conduct of Forgami and the Princes: in board the Leviathan, Ire had not the least suspicion of say impro• mit ty. Candour, fainiess ought to have led the Noli:e Evil to these considerations, so strongly relining in favour of the Queen—when relying on the evid-ice of Captain Briggs, as it bore againet her M'aje.ty, lee obruld toot nave neglected to state those circumstances whirl. rebutted and overturned all charge of criminality. He now :a isl e e„, That eiressinstatice which really did, more the any other, require explanation ; be alluded to what bad taken place 11 in the polscre. The Noble and Learned Lord on she I Woulsack, and the Noble Earl on il.e rhos !ouch, I hail relied mainly an the manifest proof of Bergamo ' haring slept under the tent oar deck at the same time I a Hie the etisscess. To this circumstance, however, be wire id ; Reply the general observations which he h oat already mail., with Wily Ibis differeece, that the facts had 31 , 10 beet. prorrl i its the same onawner as el sjocehi's evidence had prove-4 a similar eiremasstamee at Aeons. Its the latter place Major thi sail soother or, Taut had slept in as outer and separate room, sod meet have known who went into the issuer one. But though in strict legal form Bergami's sleep ing under the teat is the polscre bad not beets proved, lie was williwg without further arganseut to strait that ti t• Ifact bad been satisfactorily proved; but there was no proof ' that occasiunalfy other peewee did not sleep the re. Let the Ifact be taken that Bet gausi alone had slept there, the pies- lion then would be, did this circumstance by itself lead to , 4 direct itiference of guilt, so as to leave no doubt of its i having been committed? It did not appear necessary fur her Majesty's Counsel to call witnesses to disprove this fact. Let the Noble Earl apply the same condos" to the evident, ! on this part of the case which he had shewu in Dement's and Illejocelm's evideuee, and he would find it dittieult to infer soy thiug like • disposition to pr irate in Lieut. Howstans; on the contrary, he appeared to be a ruinous witness, anxious to distieguish in his evidence between what he could speak to of his owl knowledge, and what be bail only the ground of hearsay for believing. He said that he did mei know that Bergami slept under the tent. Being 'tressed further, he said that he had beard en; and that not being et I. deuce, ht added, without being asked, that having heard it, lie believed it. Without hesitation he readily adraitod the circumstance as far as he was acquainted with it. Ile added the grounds of that belief, namely, having seen the Prine-.. coining down the ladder, supported by Berganti,rin the seed when the vessel shipped a sea uff Caremania. There was no 1 ground for throwisix sospiciou on Lieut. Hownent's evidence. The Noble Earl bad gone further—he had said that if there was ISO mystery in the traosection, as Lieutenant Hownasn bail declared, Lieutenants Flynn and Hownam were the must perjured wituesses in the 'world. He wished the Noble Eail had examiued their testimony as kindly as he had that of Demount, Majocchi, and elacchi. A true witness might say every word creditably which had beets spoken by Lion, Howuano. It did slut appear to hint that any person, having ; even less ingenuity than the Noble Earl, could be much per. 1 pleated to reconcile Lieut. HUMIIIIIII . II evidence with a dispo sition to tell the truth scrupulously and honourably. As to the evidence or Lieut. Flynn be had not so much to say iu its favour. Either from the COIIIMaill• of his intellect orsotne such cause he bad involved lilmselrin contradiction with regard to the primer drawn out by Schierini, which must entirely set aside his evidence. But this did suit manifest a disposition to falsehood, for the pea 'etiolation of which he could have had uo adequate motive. It was not fur the sake of falsehood. I he repented it, but from corrosion °listener.. that he had thus 'opted his character as a wituees. He could out but observe upon the admission of Ilse Noble am/ Learn ed Lord (Redeedalej, that Mr. Flynn's evidence ought to be received, when it accorded with that of Gargiulo. He intuited we it, that the fact of Bergami "lava slept ruder the teat bad nut been denied. although it bed been asserted by the Noble Earl that the fact war so sorprisiog to the Counsel fur her Majesty as to lead lo a complete al. leratloat its the pilau of the detente, and. is conacquesce, they had stated that that circumstance made a part of their ease. His Lordship paid some high compliimewia to the abilities of her Majesty's Counsel; be did mat however remember to have heard it stated to the Giantism speech, but certainly no denial of that circumstance hesel been atteueptel,mad there fuer it must have been iistenJed as a part of their case. i Mr. William., its that useful c tary mod eameopeeleem- I sive statement of the evidence which he had owls rpm the . case for the Bill, had admitted the feet ; and is the exami nation of Mr. Flyieo, he hid been asked by her Maje.ay'e Counsel if be believed that Bergamo had slept II . , i .. •• dent, and the answer was ejected se nut briar ...lc • Nu attempt, in short, had beet. made by her CUOMO I iii i.. exansinatiom of Metiers. Flyuu and Newman' to set up en i. deuce against that fact. He admitted the fact to have bean proved by five witnesses. Dunne five weeks Bergman teal slept nutter a tent watts the Queen tin beard the gmlneer. ne re they to infer that guilt had liven committed, mailer all the ether eirernaitiaue s which had been stated with regard lo gloat tratasecinte, in such • moister as to lead l• al wielouht. ad "%sovietism ? He could admit, that Ilse arplanes."). had out been altogether satisfseerre ; but, 1/1111rif the pee Wise eiremenstiroems of the use, sod the peculiar circumstances of she Queen at the menneuo, etch conduct might perfectly agree with conduct of thermos/ perfect innoceocis As to the teeksice give* um this point by Gargiulo sod Priam°, he had Ms objections to their depositions, as far as the fact was concerned; but he objected to than WI account of the asaiii_ feat dispowtiow to colour the fact. He could not conclude that they were maaespeted trillafllfell ; large sumo of mosey hull been pant to them, betides which force bad twee used to compel thew attendance. But these were not tit 'sly ciriestm slauces of imispiritra ; .whys Peterssko f his awl* and ionsicenti nephew, went too near the scent of iiiihrlitary, His airlines dock, drandieg the contamination of the swab of kis ow !