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any metut ,„ eau may recommend ?" lie said, I pissed at that meeting to the Petitioner and his t o a minute lainiv. that wx , hi , i„ t ,.. it tion, 01 this 4 . 4bovrrsii. friends, and they revolved that he should procure was ode, which was ackno w l ed g ed another interview with Mr. Quin, and should state 11 , owe % although \ Ir. Q,ai.l del tiot sign it. I t' him distinctly that the friersde of the Petitioner Getithentl then adverted to the meet. did not cansieler that the conduct of Mr. Quin, taken tte , place at 'lr. C. Smyth.* S t ooge. however uirkind or unfair they might bassi coo that haul l- de orneth lies stated to the Douse the particulars., craved It to he, would aistliortse the Petitioner to stioogly imirres-erl pus mind meet - call out Mr. i .. d demand personal aatisfac- C , the 22(1 of September , at his I se. He hon. Smyth went hack to Adare, on the Bth of 1, : 4 . illr delay of opeit m e the door—the co. Ortober, and saw Mr. Quin, no third person being ropei tiny the maid-servant, and other present. Smyth commenced by telling him, as he ,err incidents that lor( !dare. Ile then stated fore mentioned, whet their opinion was as to the m r , PIN -keel him, h l ie re . Petitioner's honourable upon lein, and he • ,„,,; p lhr lace. to „nu;.. ; ; ? Mr. Smyth an. again ridded, that he hoped, after that declaratioti, N,e, I terve n e t ; I del net expect you so Hurl after their willingness to give every putt , „I l e , hot se too are here n ow, oe will 410 it moue. betty to it that Mr. Quin pleased, lie would 'ios, ;" and that Nfr. quit replied, he was then a i then see the propriety of dieregarding any idle ho ii r ,n., a , h e ill the Lord Lieu- reports that might be circulated at Limerick 4 ,,,„„„ t ' s 01.11.•nee; he " Proliapsyou have no upon this point, and that he would have no „hketion to ' elite the conversation to the presence injection to do away with those condition*, and et Mr. Gould ?" Mr. Swett) replied. "if my re- give him the 2004 e year, as originally proposed, real of it is to dispense with reilueing it to writing, to he secured unshackled. Mr. C)nin to this re. t e lteeel her aviiiist it." \I r. Qom said, plied. that he saw no right Mr. Grady had to de lpriers " o.llBllllv not." Mr. Smyth Oleo repented the :nand such terms from him. .4 Why," says he, Mr. Quin and Mr. " should he be perfectly free, aud shackled ? Let .i.eersa tit le in the in - esen ee of to the same mariner, he 'eye, that he gave it us both be free, or both ellackled ; let me be at whence at the bar of the Heusi.. %Viten they liberty to take this 200/. a year from him whenever . e i e lrew, Mr. Smyth wrote the minute, and en. 1 please, and he at liberty to vote as he pinnies ; or 111 a letter to Mr. Quin. Thet letter lied if I ent to be bound so long as am Cedes i .„, t i „,, m inced, and he (Sir Robert Wilson) Itutubrum to give it to him, let him be bound est e,' ,„, t what tlie contents of it were. Ile also to remain perfectly united with me."—He v:Ottisis l'ay,srVet, Venture to say, that Mr. Smyth I further states, that Mr. Quin having asked him, ties most set citons to have that dot:tomtit pro. why the Petitioner's father, who was so temperate e llet ee At three o'ciock Mr. Quin went, aCcOni- in London, alinuld then appear so very indignant ? riser Iby Mr. to Mr . Smyth's house . On To which Smyth replied, " Ile is indigoant, not ( . • 111 h.: liandeit the minute to Mr. Sint th, l that you offer his son 2001. a year, but because you see. 4 it us ., perfrctly correct, but that there I couple that offer with conditions which he considers vile rtlitruce in it which might be altered. I degraditig." Mr. Smyth use delivered the letter et a, that the Petitioner might be at written by Mr. T. Grady to Mr.Quiti, and told him hie are et ere tine to relinquish the 2001. a year, lit the same trine, that as he now taw t his business of its ii.terrst as he pleased ; the she. was likely to take an angry turn, head 1:011,e seas. s. t.l ve i sirate his political ititere,t from to Mr. Grady to request that in future lie would dies fettle'," To this alteration Nlr. Smyth coe. not send his letters through) Smyth, as he wished „ Ar a, an d then Mr. Gould immediately said, I to have nothing further to say to this business; lee it ri:eit tit apprise you that 1 have advised and he requested Mr. Quin, that he would answer Q u in tat to si4ii tluit paper ; for you tonet those letters through the ordinary channel of the ' p er te a t it contains eitturthing relating to the dim- post, and hot convey theist through Smyth, as he red of the profits o f all suffice c.sisisectesi with the had done • former letter. He took his leave of Mr. rider; o stratioti or ju-tier, which I thiiik it right a i Quin, returned to Limerick, and stated what took Mettler el Parliament should not sign ; but lam place to the Petitioner and les friends. He re• et :any tittle to come forward and testify that turned to Dublin, and shortly after received a let. Mr. use my presence acknowledwal it to he ter from a Mr. George Maunsell, stating, that he ... at eci." With that declaratton Mr. Smyth stated had seen a time from Mr. Quin to Mr. Daniel he was Srti•fird. i nime m a tely after this meet. Gebbett, which contained the following paro lee, Mr. Small% wrote to Mt. Thomas Grady, graphs : the Petiernire. father, giving him an account of " Mr. Grady may vote as he pleases; sod Wise chooses to rule ii t gainst me, 1 wilt not, on that account, deprive him of what took place. lie then stated, that havlng ih the minute confined the arretigement respecting e Mr. , • Carew Smyth having admitted, on the part or Mr. the two bemired patinds a-year to Mr. Richard Grady and his friends, that I had nut made any promise, 1 Smith, and had mole no arrangement as to the , feel that ibis pruposjtiou cau be made compatible with my rat Meld of the money in the event of Richard honour:* smith , * death, lie wrote to el,. G oo k' t „ „„„.„. He also states that several letters were subsequently bet, that matter. Arid here he (Sir Robert Willem) writhed) by the elder Grady against the compromise would esik any Gentlemen en that House, would altogether, because the compromise was illegal end now man of cninimin acme—nut such a main as uncuirstitutional. When he was summoned to the Mr. Gerrit! was, of a legal profession and of long r bar, and notwithstanding a revere and painful crow. experien. e—hot would any snail of eulltleon under- i exuminution, he displayed that inflexible steadiness eteirding endure, for a moment, to have a letter of that was trot to be shaken—he stood at the bar as I:at descriptian addressed to him, without iestent. 1 if he Mood upon the rock of truth—Mear, hew,/ lv disclaiming any connexion .vitb the sub. I ;lid was not to be removed from the strength of his minor), because it was the position of an honest J cur ?—was it possible to su pp ose that such I) • I. ,ter would have been addressed by Mr. I risen. who stood tearless and firm before them. Smyth to Mr. Guild. :es to au alteration in r One fact alone would seem to militate against it—, docitment, which Mr. Gould never read, and never lie meant a paragraph in r letter of Mr. Thomas .34w ?—wee it credible that Mr. Smyth would have Grady the elder, of the 40th of October. To iterreinced the word he obvious" in that letter, in Counteract the impreseiou that paragraph might tee manlier that lie introduced it, if the subject make, he (Sir Robert Wilson) would appeal to all the facts of the case, lie would appeal ant familiar to the rated of the person ad. rhess.d i And how did Mr. Gould treat thee letter ? a to the entire correspondence of Mr. Smyth. Of all this he took no notice whatever—lie He might appeal to the evidence of letters then in shies not disclaim it—he says, received your his hands, which had arrived from France but a few n. .lr, arid perfectly concur in the rtateuseut days since. These letters were written by Mr. u m ade. Mr. W. Quin authorises me to Soieth on the 10th and the 15th of October, and on iv, that emir recollection is perfectly accurate, several other days, to which the letter of the elder reel of course there can remain now no kind of thrf. Grady of the loth of October was in reply ; these fr erica on she subject." That letter fully authru. letters were accompanied by a note from Mr. Grady. limes the statement ef Mr. Smyth, and Mr. Smyth Ile (Sir Robert) showed these letters to the Member 1.1 ,t sub-, ipient pnrt or has evidence states, that fur Oxford, the Member for Londonderry, end to tile use of the word " o bvious," because it several other Gentlemen in that House who had so sort {.toper for a Alember of Parliament to laudably assisted in the present investigation. He , 4 the ininitte; that he therefore addressed Mr. (Sir Robert) wished these Gentlemen to examine eel as to the proposed alteration in it. M r . I those letters, and, if they could, to point out any inaccuracy in Mr. Smyth's staeement, told they in. Strorn eieth suing after this received the irr table letter ihe titioner. and he also received an ati.wer formed him that they saw tin cause fur the publi- M• M. GriinYt senior, to his letter of the 41st of cation of il e r. e letters. Ile (Sir Robert) (lid tint Seide el her ; an d it was, he %lid. much to be la. stand tip its that House to approve of Mr. Sinyth's Itiel.trd th at the l e tter of Mr. Grady, senior, de- I a dvice to Grady—it might in one respect deserve hiverrd Iry Mr. Smyth to Me. Quin, at Adore , had unsure:; but surely there were circumstances not heat produced ty the fl.iuse, for that letter that the severest censor would not altogether w o uld chiefly oinew the tlii eat of a Parinimentary condemn, there were circuruetances of great Fir tamed that s ir R e b rit Wilson extenuation that must plead for him when he w„tad brl x ott tile trai,,Hetion before t h e co „„i i i en ,„ sncriliced his &chug* to his judgment. On the trop alive House. He (Sir Robert) had already • evidence of Mr. Gould, he would Day but little. &chord, that of the enure tran+ection. he we, lie appeared before them labouring under severe riltogether iguorairt until a few days before the ' illness, cud great agitation of tnind, and he certainly P e titiou was put into his fends; hut he would htePeafed oir this subject with a total failure of not say tiath the Petitioner and his Goiter might lecollection—e Hear, hear)—nay more, lie sp. not bet.eve that upon such u subject they might • • peered nut merely to forget things that did hap. honk for In' reroutes. Hot the matter was not • pen, but he appeared to remember incidents which importme ; the House would Say the the p i e s . never del occur. He said lie was not Isresent at the ter, was not, whether he (Sir It. lir any • meeting on the -22 d of September. how that fact roller Mender would have called the conseterat ~,,, sterol it was not rieceesary now to say—but he ie Perham-tit to the matter; the sue tens was, (Sir Ruben), without ineaniog toasty any thing die .' .1 the letki coutuiu u thrust of a Paiiratuentery trussing to the feelerigs of that witness, after beflOos cuitsidenitinn, would riot hesitate to rt e r ept ol Grady's letter, Smyth proceeds to say that the House would best consult the justice I...week—lle as rives there Sill the th of October, and dignity of their proceeding+, by rejecting the lee as* Pieitioner and Mr. Mausisel. He u leatiniony of M r . Gould s it otte teer. He would .„ t .‘deer tome Me.Quin; the particulars of that riot discuss the point now, as to the truth or the ie. . I, oj he lots given in evidence. Ile s t a tri, t h a t error of his evitlence—wliether, if erroneous, it was NI,. Qum what he meant by the , x present!, ailfully or inadvertently given. 'Chat was a secret rt in, I'. :uiisnrr wits as free as air to roar as lie Immo) telly to the Great Being before whom truth 1 ,.. , I," toe ,use he, Smyth, conceived it was invent- appears so lov e ly, an d e i i, e t ioo d so o d ious; but he s •I. what MG Quin hail told him in Dublin. would call on the Howe to reject that testiumuy .I , (jeer, ,e:11 lie paw no inronsietency whetsuever ; *lllicit, by the confession of the w i tness . appears -arc tie to smeoli," yo.ie recollect I told you = on many essential points to be so very erroneare, 11.• sr th a t hr Li ned re'„iiiquisli thus whenever he and su very vague. pler..eri, and movie: to her politieel interest from The next Wanes' examined. after Mr. Goold, sa id s inyi i i, if M r , Q u i n , l e t was Mr. Itlaunwell ; he iti some particulars 4 , • 4..11r rptmsii rack other. You say he is free as condone the intitenteul of Mr. Smyth. He outlier- , it ; b u t s h ou ld h e exerc is e that f ee .dosn, us out it ticates the letter written by him to that gentleman. yew irdeolimi to &Kier him of the two hundred The next witness was Mr. Oablettt, the 'elicitor s year ?" T o which Ire re pli e d, "0, err- of Mr. Qum. He stated, that he went to Mr. 1 :. 1 11j Y.•a. Theis," siud hinyth, slow per- I Quill, to settle the dispute between him and Grady, /tree there is an inconsistency." lie then surd, l as a mutual friend, and that Mr. Quin neither ads that f ee l in g min i o ns is, settle a ll dife e eences between 1 Milted not denied the rocs; that three was a pledge the families, he pressed slpisli Mr. Qom the ! of political support enneard to the anon,/ pro. uspcilteney of doing sway all couditiorie, but posed to be given to the Petitioner; and he *dolts that Mr. Quist scrawl. Mr. Smyth stated what l the exprvsiou of Mr. Quin, that wbi!e he and Mr. Graly ist the same portliest wife', it was slot likely that any political soisonderstantling wniii , l occur hetween thew. He stated, th.it the following flay In received • letter from Mr. QOlll nn the rubjeCt. which had been produced to the Hattie. - The nest witness was Mr. Richard Smith, the pre.iesit Clerk of the Peace for the county of Li merick. He stater, that he was t ritely to give up lbr rum Or 4001. s year. Use witness certainly 'lid not appear to have a very perfect recollection. 0 ',necking of the number of voter', he confounded the ltsing anti the dead. Ile ohnuld not tre►yasa much longer on the at tention of the !louse. They had a solemn duty to peiloim—a duty to the country and to themaelver. It nn•uld he fur them to decide on the evidence. Ile (Sir Robert) thought that the Hon. Member Berea in a manner iticon.ittent with hie high office, i list he violisied the freedom of election, oid was guilty of • breach of the privileges of th e House. He did not menu to indulge in any language—he wished to discharge his duty without any unworthy prejudice towards one, or any on. worthy favour toward* the other party. In that spirit, no doubt, the House would proceed— every man who heard hint would see the importance of the subject, and would feel that he was called opon to diveliarge with fidelity and with honour an important dilly to his country and to himself. The Hon. Member concluded by proposing a series of It's 'lotions:— The Ist, stated the time that Mr. Quin was appointed Custom Ibisknows. The tot, Tbat be appointed Mr. Richard Smith as Cleric of the Peace in the room of the Petitiorrer, nod that Mr. Qum stipulated to give out of the pro fi ts of limonite a sum • of 200 n f. .year to the Pennloser. The 3d, That in a conversation at 86Dorgan. near Dub lin, be undertook to insure the Petitioner * sum of 2001. a year, on the terms of the Petitioner siring bins his political support; that the substance of what ucrurred at that Meet ing was reduced to *right'. aud, teat rAlly, that he had act. ed in the mailer in violation of the freedoms of election, and bad been sadly of a breach of the privileges of that House. Mr. BOOM% WILBRAHAM, lifter expressing his approbation of the tit:miler in which the Hun. Geis aeons', (Sir Robert had brought the sub ject under the consideration of the House, ileelar ed, however, that he could not agree with the Reso- Intim,* proposed by him, nor with the view he look of the subject. He did not, however, feel it neces sary to go at any length into the subject. It was, he believed, eu opinion generally received, that the Moo. Member (41r. Quin) was the victim of a foul conspiracy. and that opinion gained strength from the very laliguao of the elder Grady. In one of his leittla to Mr. Carew Smyth, there was a re markable passage, whit h he would read to the House. It was tins.— _ . . " Your perseverance was manly, kind, and disintemted, sad I MO perfectly satisked with the result of your admi nistrarion. know not what purl of it most to admire—the coolness sod ingenuity wish which you led Quin on, at his ioterview with you in Dubliu, from coquetry to a full declination of 114 passion for bribery and corruption; the simplicity wills which you coudneed him to ■ written testintotual of that declaration; or the tact with whirls you handed him my letter, at your farewell interview with hint at Adore; it was a kind of . . P. P. C. compliment, which you made ium at the very nick of time; use moment gooneetwould havt been too early, one moment later Iwould have been too late—but you grip ed the moment whew be was glorifying himself upon his triumph, to satisfy bin that the battle was only io its in fancy." W hen lie read this, lie did not mean to reflect on the honour and character of Mr. Smyth. He was not, he (Mr. W.) was sure, a party to ally con spiracy ; he gave his testimony at their bar in a fair and manly manner, and with an honest zeal. When he said so much for Mr. Smyth, he might be allowed to claim a little for Mr. Goold ; he was thirteen years one of his Majesty's Counsel, and at the head of the Munster Circuit, and it was too hard that becAise be forgot one fact, that his character should be tainted und his pro- • 'peva blasted for ever , and that fart too not of very material kind. In the present case he thought at least there were great doubts, and he only asked for Mt. Quits that indulgence which a maii so cir cumstanced would receive at the hands of any other tribunal. Do not, said he, put him in a worse situation than he would be soy where else, in a case where the consequences of your condeinnation would be fatal to his character, nod would sink biro below Isis level in society. It war, he said, the opinion of many Gentlemen flirt the imputed fact, even if fully proved, did net amount to a breach of privilege. The disposal of the office of Clams did not, it was supposed, come within the meaning of the law on the subject. Whether that war so or not, it was clear, ut all events, that Mr. Quin did not commit the act. The most that could be imputed was intention, and 'Melanin was different from the commission of the art. He had, he sold, a Resoled.* which, is his opinion, would meet the case fairly ; it did not go to acquit, roe uotirely to condemn the conduct of the Hum. Member (Mr.thoio). He concluded by appealing to the generustity of the House, nod hoped that its • can like the present, they would sot visit the Hon. Mem ber with tkeir severest menu,. sod by moving an amended Resolution to the following effect : " That it did appear to the Hasse that Mr. W. W. Quin on the oth of July, 18111, did offer as %enmity of 400 /. • year to T. W. Grady without any expectation of future political support. That on the 2lst September, at ass Mier view sought by Mr. Carr. Smyth, Mr. W. W. Quin did in- directly attach a political modistes to the gram of this an nuity to T. W. Grady—bat that on the 10th Odder. he did expressly disclaims this coodition, and declare that if T. W. Grady did withdraw his Nippon from hies (Mr. Qsiu) at the next election, he would not, on Hood account, de prive him of his aismity." There were other Resolations admitting the impropriety of the condition under any eiressistasees assd that if car riedinto executioss it would be a high breach of privilege, but that this breach hid sot, !order the tircamotaaces„ heel committed. The Symms* suggested, that as limiest Restolutios of the Hon. Member was proposed to he pat after Ike third Rem lutiou proposed by air Rollers Wilma, the precediug Rem- Inflame should be previosely disposed of. The Mos. Fosnaston Milieus said, that however 'Mus cat it might be, he, as a Neither of that House, mold not shrink from the performers* of • public slid mend duty—he would support the Reoulotioss proposed fay she galiMat Offi cer. The fitted* of the Ham. Member (Mr. Q.) appeared, he said, to rest his detests, not am the denial of the tact, bet on eiteenalios. He washed the Ron. Geollesiss had allowed them to follow that cobra; last it veld be is the freshet boa Mail, that is his %perch in that House, he spiels all the &Mies the moat positive sod onequivoesi denial—a big examisatim followed—the weight of evidence Is, upon their table, sad it was sow impossible to meet shames that awl dessert made out by so titulary resolistiosi. It 160 i he laid, impossible out to feel grief S. ace two Grades:am of ' high respectability so palpably cootoosdict each Miter ; bit Of Mr. Gould • high Character hail beets gives, and, isuletd, if int Whet Man bid gives Whimsy is thiLlsonsit tha t be 414.11 e eoidd not credit btu. I. Hp elly high rluranclee was, at all sidesomerihed to Mr. C. Ausyth. Ilia emstradectiem was of • meet important mature, aad he had we hesitation iii sayieg, that his testimony was above inspearkssessit. Ha. stood, halved, on high ground ; his evidence was cerreko• rated by various Miters. and Ilnally by the admitriltte of Mr. Gould. To the Moueerable Member Inc Quin) be must also Impute perfect forgetittlnewr. He was convoyed that no feeling what au, Nut emit of ettP. posed respect far that Hwitar, weigh! induce • gemerwse Inas to sit still, tablet and saiifird, whilst he heard smother slating what weir false, and every word he uttered stabbing to the heart the credit awl the reputation of an inermeet mid au honour. hie men. Ile thcrelvre *'cold out! say, that he W. 14 sole the Manomahle MresMe t have roiled at that imam tit in recollection. As in Ilse sidrure of the Hon. Mrints..r, there were, he thought, smo. eireatiasioneel of Militallita ill it i bat Cita Kesolation or she Monowahle (;entlearan (Mr. Willerstsam), appeared to be a mere esdfily. They should act with marmite caution; she subject was one of delicacy and of importance, and a partial praellediett• would only amid the House without acquitting sr. Gioia, He did got, it was fair to say. believe the corrupt men tires impaled, as they were, to the Ilimostrable Member—. if he acted so. he would be unworthy Ili sit within the walls of thil HellSe—lse would deserve lie share all the odium be. stowed on smaller bribery, sod to share the piimishaleat of lesser criminals. Mr. Peel.. after complimenting Sir Itobest Wilson for the manner in which he brought this subject forward, said, he woe confident that the House. recolle.:tiog they had, in the pretreet case, not deliherattee, but judicial functons to discharge, would readily make any sacrifice of tune and attentiou necessary to come to a right declaim' on it. Perhaps, lief ire goi g joi n, the examination of the principal question, he should answer t h e reference made to him by the Hon. Baronet opposite, respecting the cons tents of the letters which hail not been produced by Mr. Grady, senior. and which. to some minds, might have left a gap in the evidence. It had as. turally. occurred filet some letters must have pass ed from Mr. C. Smyth to Mr. Grady, urn, to draw out the compliment syhielt had been paid by the latter to the fortiori fur his adroit insuagement. All the letters which were welding l o ad been pro duced—they amounted to four, dated the 3il, loth, 13th, end 14th October. They had been submitted to himself, mid he thought it due to Mr. C. Smyth to state, that nothing whatever ap peared therein to warrant the expressions used by Mr. Grady, sett. ; but then, on the other hand, there wee nothing to skew tlpst he had rejected the com pliment. As it seemed to be taken for granted that all the charges contained its the Petitiou had been established, it was necessary to call the alien tiott of the House to each of them distiiictly—that was particularly necessary on account of the speech of the lion. Gentleman who had spoken last, and who ermined to look upon the tone of the [leis, Member** defence as an odusission of every timig alleged agaiust him. The Petition began by stating " that the said Wyedhain Quin perceiving at the last general election that his popularity had considerably decreased, found it necessary to avail himself. for election purposes, of the patronage he so obtained from Government, and broke up the said office of Clerk (Attie Peace into lots, its order to distribute the several lots among such persons, coin inasidieg an influence to the county, as he knew, or presumed would undertake. an cousideration theieof, to pupped him ost any future contest. appoititing them only during pleasure. jib order to maintain his control over them for these purposes." Now he should say, not only that that allegation bid not been proved, but that it had hero effectually dis proved. Ile shoold also assert that the next charge bad been disproved, viz. " that the said W. W. Quits finding his billion tttt nit candidate now more piece. rious thou it had been, thought it expedient, if possible, to secure the future support of your Pe titioner sod his tenantry, by a deed of bargain said tale." 'flue third and the must material charge had been most completely refuted, and that on the admission of his lion. Friend who had spoken last. Mr. Quin had given a distinct disclaimer to his for beariog to require the petitioner's political sop port, from the apprehension of a parliamentary is vestigation. But what was the etatenneut of the Petition ? " That Daniel Gabbett, of the City of Limerick, Esq. law agent to the said W. W. Quin, being apprised of such your Petioner's issieneoes, itionglit it his ditty to expostulate with the said W. W. Quits upon the stature of the proposal lie had to make to your Petitioner, and cautiotiing him of the danger he thereby incurred, recom mended to bins to endeavour to rescue himself from the consequences, by offering to your Peti tioner the said aOO/. a year, _independent of any pledge for election service : That the said We We Quits being apparently alarmed at the aforesaid suggestions, wrote the following note to the said D. Gabbett, ii; order to its being *hewn by him to your Petitioner. viz.— ' hie Grady may vote as he pleases ; if be chooses to vote ageism me, 1 will not on that account deprive him o f his siteatielle ' W. W. QUIN. ' Now be should contend, that that statement hail been wholly negatived lay the evidence, and allowed on the oppooite side to bare been so. lie should now lay down three propositions, which he thought lie should succeed in proving, not on the evidence of Mr. Gould, or any witness on the part of Mr. Quin, but by the evidence ass the pert of the Pe.. titioner :—lst. That Mr. Quits had not made the offer of the 2001. a-year in consideration of future political support; gel, That up to the 21st September, the time of the interview between Mr. C. Smyth and Mr. Quin, at Stiflorgati, no mention had been made of political support; 3d, That Mr. Quin hod, from the ouggestioiss of own mind. and not from any ap ptehension of Parliamentary inquiry, voluntarily renounced the eueiditiun of such support.—As to the first, he conteseded that the original motive on Mr. Quin's miud in inakis g the offer. was, that lie might be relieved from the neceesny of dismissing s person who had voted fur him at the toht elec tion, end who (he should allow) had some ground to expect that he should tie continued id the of. flee. That such determidation bad been produced from a consider** of, the young mass's situation; he thought could fairly be Mimed from the re presentation made of it by himself. llii a letter to dlr. Quin, he said— which" li r tiers l4 ` i t t b l e him yo lt ut p l os itt eam entimi reetmei " de le rl w7th " pe et ste illi ete ice feve ee dm genus of your farads i request yen pill let me a rt. mew tbe emotes. you have mar Ms your .had ' Ile M I beii to arrasage my •• • 1: i t o ettireilliflg• W demetellity lii wlsieb 1 mm et ' I, Is ass* tent theirtbe waist iratiti." The same thatuettou fairly fillowetl from al &Quoit given by Mr. Grady, seu. of a enumeration whim& Wolf place of its intertittl betlitin kill laud My. • I Quin, mid also front the following postage in Ilse testimony of Mr. Grady, jot.-- a After the election , rode out to' 4dare, thinking it a matter of comae to be sppointed, • nod which 'I told Mr. Quin ; Mr. (tarn, to my great ostoolibeiml, vabl that ha pads/ the latent.* exeessively abide wits lehoet be take place between as ; Aar that, is cememeene's of a prior en_ ert, be was afraid he should be obliged to disturb ac t::77,•fiee. I used ever/ argument in my power to previthit hint ; I mentioned his promise. and I !besets 1 6.41 my arguments to moor effect ; fur Mr. WO said be "toed 11.1 nothing in a hurry, and to depend upon it : every &Ivy that should occur alsontd be entirely In my adraorloge. I thew left Adore with some hopes of not being &.t, oherl. :I beg patiloo I forgot one circumstance; !:rat My Mr. Wyndham Qat* Liked me, ' If I am obliged in disturb von, will yon accept of your office fur two years!' and ! me;(1, . certainly ... id floe." . Now, it wits to be considered, that had Mr. amity accepted this compromise the charge could user • li are had any existence, and yet who cocld ititagitie that Mr. Quin then had any idea that the act epitome of the ()flee for two years imposed on chttgution of political support, at the ensuing election, vehicle probably would nut occur till seven )ear: arter ? These various testimoities, in his /trillion, perttole estab'isheil the fact that the original motive of the offer of 5 7 ,00/. s-yemr, was far from brill the expecta tion of political support. fits secood proittisition he should also prove by this part of the testimony of Mr. Grady, jun. • Yam recollect the 21st of September, the tlav on which Mr. Quin saw Mr. Carew eintii, al Stitiorvan '-1 caueot say ; I received a letter on the 22.1, Gum Mr. Cart -a Sinytl.„ sayuu he had seen bins. tip 10 that period had yen ever heard a word shoat poli tical support being attached to the offer of CCVI. • year?— Certainly uut. . You never beard from the first moment of Fair. thlin's speaking to you !limn the anlijei t, ally thing Arent political support being attached to the offer I—Nu. HOW often had yolk.. seen Mr. W. Chun then before the Val of September, on this visbjectl—Qh ! 1 cannot may. TWO or three times?—Two, three, or Ism times. To collie to the last proposition, that Mr. Quin had, on the 10t1i of October, repented of %vita ever indiscretion of which be might hi t ve hero guilty between that day mid the titlat tit . !limn-its er, and therefor.: had a claim to whatever indul gence shoolti he the consegnetice of voluntary change of mind, appeared fi opt the rVOIWIICe of Mr. C. Smyth. That gentletnou stated, in answer to the fullowisig riurvtlini— . . In the conversancies yea had with the non. W. tasio at Adare (which was before the day in que.tion), did you make any •Ilusion to a parliamentary Investigation?-1 am sure I did not, as I could not then suppose that the mi n ter would lake dna tura. The Hon. Member proceeded to argue that Mr. Quin had not received stay threat of investigatiou from dr. Grady, sen. pet-Outs• to the 10th Octo ber : and gooiest the evidence of fir. Metetisell, whit, deposed that he bed not hoard of a parliamentary ievestigation till the month of November. Ile thought, therefore, he had established that illy. Quin was entitled to all the grace of repetitette, said to whatever mitigation of punishment that cir cunistatice should operate to produce. Ile those referred to the minute, and thought the mode iii which it came into existence divested it or that cha racter of guilt which it would bear, had it beets a formal written proposal coming from Mr. quill ;soot . that the swestiments expressed by Mr. Quist. at Sill/ 'organ, were precisely the same es those entertained by every person who disposes of patronage, us by s s landlord giving a lease at will. He ittgiled that the eonditional offer could not fairly he mid to have originated with Mr. Quin, inasmuch as the first mep hitis of political support was made daring the in terview at Stillorgan, to Whieh Mr. Quip had relisc.- sully consented, at Ilse presssing solicitations of Ma. C. Smyth, and to which, if he had r tie_ cousetitud„ the minute which constituted the foundation of the charge could never have existed. The most pain. ful duty a Member had to perform oil the present occasion was to balance the opposite testimony of two such respectable Gentlemen as Mr. Smyth and Mr. Gould. lie believed must aisteerely,. tbat the latter Gentleman had, on his first exurnination,.truly and conscientiously described the transactions as they had remained on hie memory. Fir believed that, not from his own person il acquaintance with the Gentleman, but from the high and on. impeachable character lie Isarl universally borne ; slid he felt it Isis duty to state, that he had received from the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland tt paper signed by the law authorities, stanchion!, in the strongest terms, for the veracity and integrity of that Gentleman He thought it foolish of Mr. Quilt to have cou.ented to the division of an office • but tbat his Resolittiou lo do so ?cow% from ilia desire u f ? relieving himself from the embarrassment occa sioned by the coullicting deltas of two individuals. He escapist the censure conveyed in the revolution proposed by his Hon. Friend behind him (Mr. B. Willa, sham), was a fully sufficient punishment; and be entrcattil the noose not to suffer any feelings to intrude themselves into their Convid.v. tibia of the cam, except those OPCM$8111) Lamm sled with the charge, and to keep themselves unisellu. acrd by any e•ti flu . sic motives. . Sir J. kfacitittosa replied at some 'envie to the logo. smuts of Mr. Peel. He expresseintia 44.01 - 1111111441i00 to WON for the Resolutions Best prorated, lams(' hr thought that the charge bad been directly baought home to the Mu. Mesa her of making an offer in express wawa, nod not by impli cation, of 2001. a year iu exchange for political support its the county of Lititerick. ,Ile considered Mr. C. bintilie testimony to have bees given in the Moat o/teu. and cactled manner, and to have been strongly con oboritsit hi pthet cur. anstances, particularly his !tetras ; mat that the eritleto Of Mr. Goold should be expieuged from the ritinples, awl from any supposed defect of integrity or veracity, but hunt his ackuowiredged weskit's& of !weary. Mr. Kellam solicited the attention Of the ll9.tiov ( or a "tort time. lie h oped be should be pardoned fur observing that one of the wipe, &Acuities whirls reseed On late Mind before the commeacemeut of the debate, wale the (rely umpleassast situation to which an iiidivional had bees /I ; ducal in the coarse of the immtigstino—fur important my the epirslima was to the eharaiter of the lion. Member mode nearly interested, and to the MM., at lams. iier I s e eonfesssd it bad lost mach of its Pitmen for hies by iosolvisse aloe cha racter and credibility of • witness. He had hoped that *heel • Gentleman of high respectability and kitown integrity had happened to depose at the bar what hernial out not lobe ll.a fact, every Member would be inclined to ;cal the most libe ral constriction or the matter, and to attribute that to weakness of memory, which could pot be imptited les say other came, witboat • sopmplbtfetet of something totally at variative with tbe.wisois WIC Inds former Welted settees t and be bad heat gratieed to ohriehre, that such had been the mitres wooed by every Geollemaja wko ._ had yet ilea • part in the deb bate. 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