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of tile gill originally, it wits beessesiy he should mention the changes it had undergone. The ,first material one was the limitation of the inquiries of the Commissioners to such charitable iustitutious only as were connected with education. He was utterly at • loss fur the reason of this change—it was granted on all side,, that abuses were not confined to them. If it was necessary that Commissioners should go round the country to inspect the state of inetitu tions for the purpose of education, to examine re cords,accoants, and witnesses, it was very nmtural that they should do the same for all such institutions; hot peewits who saw from a more elevated situation than the fr..mers of the Bill, and who possessed all that caloi deliberate attention that they upbraided others with the want of, though in nine eases out of ten the inquiries into each species were most inti mately coutiected—the donors the seine—the wit news the same, the papers the same, still these superior intelligencers thought otherwise, and at the end of the Session there was no appeal from their decree. Au important object of the Bill in view was, to supply the deficiency of the powers of the Com mittee on Education, by extending the powers of the Commissioners, the general inquiry being toe oprose fur the Committee. —" Oh ! no," said the Lords, "co a ti ne.yoursehres to one branch of inquiry." Others might see the resson—it was the end of the Session :be bowed in sub Mission. When he saw the object of all was to send out another and another set of Commissioners, it remiuded him of the story of the man who cut two holes, a large and a small one, for his two cats. • large and a small one, to pass through. There was another alteration he regretted as much as any of the former —that the powers of the Commissioners had not only been abridged, but absolutely abrogated. They might go, ask, call ; but they had no power to compel the at tendance of persons, or the production of papers.-- ke Bill as amended contained no penahy (Kohut the refractory. He was bound by his respect for those venerable authorities, to suppose that that was not done with a view to frustrate the intentions of the House; but he could not but recollect, that the Bill appointing the Commissioners, at the in stance of Earl Sr. Vincent, conferred on them a power of imprisoning, and fining to the extent of to/. and when the latter power had been granted to the Irish Education Commissioners, one would have thought it not too extensive to be vested in those for England. The Bill, however, had neither the pe nalty of imprisonment nor fine. The Commiseioners were therefore left to derive their information from voluntary informants—and from the conduct of persons summoned before the Committee up stairs, the House might judge hose small would be the sum of this voluntary information. Such persons always began by expressing their gratitude, joy, and delight, at being called on ; but to this excess of pleasure, satiety imniediately succeeded, and they bad enough of inqairy as soon as it was begun-- when they came to the point, an oath al ways interpose med. Such had been the case with the heads of %rill chester School, when asked to put in their balance sheet for the last year, ,‘ They had taken an oath not to divulge the secrets of the College." He appealed to the Attorney General, had he ever seen an Act of Parliament without a penalty ? To what then did he look, seeing all the powers of the Bill had been takers away, and its substance defaced ? To the hope that the Cummissioners would, from time to time, report to the House the names of the Gen tlemen who refused evidence, with the causes of their refusal ; and that, as the House would re appoint, next Session, the Committee up stairs, they might supply the necessary defects of the Commission, and summon the offenders before them. That was a real practical remedy for the imbecility of the measure. The Bill originally had appoint ed eight Commissioners, to be divided into four sets; since that another Commissioner was added, and the sets reduced to three—so that now they had three Commissions going on at the same time instead of four, and the expense of one ad dinonal Cominiesioner. It had pleased the House to except out of die operation of the Bill the two Universities, and four public schools—and by rejecting, on a division, the exception of Har row, made a stand against any more. Their te merity. however, had been reprimanded ; and not only Harrow was inserted among the exceptions, but also Rugby, and all charitable institutions that had special visitors; whereas it had always been his intention to include these, for the plain ream), because they were, from the nature of things, most exposed to abuses, and most required reformation. In the Committee up stairs, the must gross abtoko had transpired in the establish meets provided with special visitors. The objec tions to the Bill, in its present form, were, its want of all penalty, and that the exemptions f lts operation were ton numerous. Who had ewer before heard of a hinting Clouse? Be fore he lied never heard troy one ask in a measure for mote than one whole, complete in its parts ; but iu atietlii r place not only had this been required, but also restrictive clause, shewing to what the me wore.. odd not extend, and a hint. The Bill was first tortured, and then destroyed. People talked of going to the Courts for redress—one Court was famed for its cheapness and its expedi tion.(ii laagh.)—He could justly extol the learning, the talents, the copiousness of eloquence of the head of that Court; but while properties to the emotion of hundreds of thousands of pounds were for numbers of years left in suspense—and the Hiimi • could scarcely, in imagination, go beyond the risagintude of that evil—he apprehended, that for ilerals NMI rapt-du:bug law people must go elsewhere. 1f evidence hail been wanting of the t..rdiness of jus tice se the Count of Chancery, abundance hail been like n before the Court - .silly, A (foliation had Loll for founding four Purview of relocation, and the 11111431 1 fir (;oninetterr made ie the- tre•to )))))) y of three eerikis, who had advised out of an income not inure than 30/. or jeets of the !11f.1it11110 , 114 dad they suit go to the They a awrErel 'list they I Yet been able to get out expended on the proci , which lie had received ft et:exhorted the business) . teas ruinous by its delay , . . *mud iiihess mid Ise hall lest 8007. in the Conti —the third. that his heart was almost broken there. The Honourable Member then referred to .a suit commenced in the Court of chancery in the Yet'. 1•040.-specting a chanty, which, by reiterated orders for standing over, mod the doubts of the Chtucelloi, was still undecided. He believed the pro. pert, was sold to defray the law expense's. which amounted to more than the price of it. From all which he drew the conclu sion, that the Court of Chancery was very use ful to every body lost the suitors. He, however, wished to disavow all intention of reflecting on the Noble Person who presided over that Court, or to make any question of his telents, learning. and integrity. lie believed no Judge ever presided there with a more anxious turn of mind to do justice to all parties—he believ e d his penetra tion and sagacity were unrivalled—he was per suaded he might, with the whole profession, say that he was a nun of the most wonderful legal learning that ewer sat on the Bench. This was the opinion of both the Chancery and Common Law Bar. A better-natured, more kindly-disposed man (gratitude for personal totemic'''s compelled him to say so) did not exist. Bot there was something in the Court of Chancery that almost justified S rift's witty remark. when he made Gulliver telt his master, the Houynlim, that his father had been ruined by gaining a suit in Chancery, with full costs. He would fain hope that the time was coming when the voice of the people would he complied with by a moderate effectual investigation of those sbuses. An effectual investigation belonged to dust Howse —if they trusted to she Commissioners, it was all a mockery ; as, however well disposed and qualified, they were not armed with necessary 'mammy. The eyes of the country were upon them. There was not a town, village, or hamlet in the kingdom that did not contain persons interested in the sifting of these abuses. From all of Them a cry issued for redress—for that there was but one mode, that the Committee on Education should be re-appointed next Session, coosisting of the same persons, armed with the some powers. if that were done, he did not care for the mutilation of the Bill. What he wished the House to do was, to look with gratitude towards their ancestors, who had founded such noble establishments—and to view, with an eye of pity, the poor, for whom they left such mu nificent provision. • They were erecting monuments to those heroic men who had defended them in the field—he now called on them to prevent those more glorious monuments, consecrated to the memory of their ancestors, from being destroyed by mulversa lion—those monuments, which were indicative of the greatest, the best of victories—the victory of intelligence over ignorance and superatitton.— Hear.) —He hoped, from the vote of the House this day, that it would be proved, whether pecula tion was smictioned by persons high in rank, or practised by the meanest individual in the land, that the time had passed when the poor could be robbed with tridmphant impepty. The Learned Gentleman concluded by ninalffig— That an borabla Address be preaested to his Royal Mewls. the Prime Recent, praying that he will be gra ciously pleased to appoint a Commission Winslow* auto the state of Eilacatiou ansossgst the Puor of Eugland and Wales, mid to report theme, from time to time, to Isis Royal Highness and the Howse." Lord CASTLERIAGII regretted that the Learned Gentleman had not confined himself more imme diately to the subject to which his motion related. He had spoken with considerable vehemence on the amendments that had been proposed elsewhere to the Bill introduced by him. Now, it was not sur prising that that Bill, which differed essentially from the subjects that were referred to the consideration of the Committee from which it emanated as it was originally formed, should have been thus altered. That Committee was appointed to inquire lido the state of education amongst the poor—and the Learned Gentleman pursued that inquiry, for seve ral nionthA, with great attention. But finding that this investigation was of too confined a nature, it was proposed to examine into the state of public institutions—and this Bill was filially produced. The complaints of the Learned Gentleman, with respect to the delays in the Court of Chancery, did, in his opinion, throw a species of imputation on the entire administration of justice in the country —an imputation which the Learned Gentleman ought ratio., to have warded off, than have en couraged. If they went to the Court of King's Bench or of Common Pleas, they would find a certain portion of delay—and, he believed, that inconveniences of this kind were inseparable from all human institutions. But, after all, if they wished to remedy those abuses of which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman complained, they must, Oltimetely, go to that very Court of Chan eery, oil which lie had reflected so strongly. He conceived, that, if they agreed to the present mo tion, it would have the of of retarding, rather than of forwarding, the object which they all had in view—and, for the accomplishment of which they had already taken a very decisive step. He could not agree to a multiplication of Commissions to inquire into this so birvt, since they would be more likely to injure tltau to assist each other. Now, the Learned Geutleinan said, he would, in the next Session, move for the re-appointment of the Committee, whose labours had been so success. fish in the present. How then would the country st.md if this motion were conceded ? _ There would, it the same tune, ben Committee of the House o f Commons—a Commission louder the Bill which h:td been agreed to--and • Commission under the Great Seal—inquiring into the same specific points. Nothing, he conceived, could tend more to destroy h•►moutous spirit of legislation between the two f 1• than such • measure. He extraordinary, that the Learned ~, when he bad laid this snit made his speech, that ipleted—that lie might *IF from he ,ring 1111 V °beer ' Hear. hear, hear.—lldr. left the House./—lt was an of the profesrion to reuse. idler making a involve the two House. of ..h Teeth ct to their autho. • nest Sets of Parliament, 'grist, to, wlnt•h would go to by the Learned Gentleman. observed, that the as it ori• - exatuiiiatiou of tint less ~ 000 isultitutitittivoosusl this -e• t of Chancery a few days j [louses of Parliament, that I been made in We.t r. cnitaidered it very extraurdh r institutions—one fur the Osuttemnst rhoulit suppose, tbe remaining fur other :toots un the table, an • of all in the came hands. toy was entirely comp' inquiriep, and fano • . isolvelf--and Amain I most resprcrble ? ems this subject.—(l, ell it prC•intailti 4O Ith4 . #l this list I 9 1 , . it of abovell, • 6 log, that 4 Gent'Oki . • 40/ was *peat ii . p be belonged, should They were ea d i re. by prziation that might inn] Lite Court or Ctisises4 ?" P mrut in a disiiute will I had ; that the, ha out rite. Probably, in the next , ut ; that one of them hod • mineuser 'night be agruld c. rtiings there' . 1 0 309/. of ow illuirut demsmird by," r lit. tOVI It tent eritllihs f list. it 'Mould be observed, 1 but 300/, ; hat tDort pasty stood, wool to an • clay and es -ince. Tilt Wu hstween 30 and 40,001 , . hring . the ease, it ;rat not to he wondered at, 0, in the first nistatice, the mtasureshotild have been very considerably modified. No case of necessity line . leg been Made out s and it appearing to him proper that they should attempt to do that by ad dress, which they could not effOt in • legislative ,initinier, lie should oppose the motion. When he said this, he did not mean to question the general propriety of inqiiiry—but, he conceived, that, in the present Session, hissing failed to carry • legis 'Attie einictintsit, introduced for the purpose of ef fecting the object 'be Learned Gentleinan boil in view, they ought not, by a. proceriliti . g of the kiiut now 'toiler tlietission, Iniend a dispute wjth the other House of Parliament. He, therefore, begged kave 10 mire •' the previous ipiestion." Mr. Bsounitsst (who had entered site House before Lord Castlereagh est down), assured the the Noble Lord, that he m‘iiit in disrespect to him, in le 'sing the body of the H 1111.14.. He went merely in tike some refreshment—end no part of the Noble Lord's s p eech was lost or) him. Lo►d CAsTIARE•OII and Mr. BROtiGRAJI ei plained. Ste S. Rost" 1.1.1' expressed his firm conviction, that it was utmost impossible, by a suit iu the Court of Chancery, to find a remedy for the oval versatton of the funds of a charitable institution. He said this advisedly, having been long connected with that Court. A suit of that Itnid was very different from an ordinary one. When a suitor, having a property at stake, applied to a Solicitor, to commence a suit, the latter being sure of his costs, immediately proceeded. But, in the case of a charitable Olios, the suit must he intro duced by some person who had no personal interest in its decitaisip —and he insist make up his mind to expend a large Patin of money, and to suffer all the obloquy which generally attended those who busied thvanselves in Noels matters—or he need not hope for 'lamas. 111, Learned Friend hail heels accused with having made unjust observations on the Court of Chances — now he must ray, that, as bUblllelli Was at present conducted there, it was next to im possible, in cases of the description alluded to, to arrive at a fortunate issue. He was, however, of opinion, that, without applying for legislative in terference at all, the evils might be corrected which retarded the course of justice. Mr. BATHURST argued that there was no neces sity whatever, looking at the enactments in the Bill introduced to the House by the Learned Gen tleman, to call fur a Commission to inquire merely into the education of the poor; without any refer ence to the funds appropriated to that purpose— because, as it appeared to him, it was quite evi dent, from what had fallen from the Learned Gen tleman himself (whet laboured through his speech to show, that the House having taken up the subject, the poor could no longer be defrauded), that there would be simple resources for the porpoiwa of educa tion. With respect to the mode of coippelliog the attendance of witnesses, of wh i ch so much had beets said, it was not surprionig that it should he opposed, when it was recollected, that many individuals of high honour were discharging, voluntarily, labo rious duties, with respect to charities, moil could not brook the Weis of being compelled, under pain of imprisonment, to come forward, whenever they might he capriciously called on. This, he belies.- ed, was the great objection advanced in another place against that particular chsnae of the Learned Gentleman's Bill. The course now taken by the Learned Gentleman 'Maid. and probably wools!, if it were aanctioned, occasion the adoption of 11/1•:1- sures to which, on similar occasions, recourse had been had, in order to defeat his object, and thus a most serious altercation might he created between the two Houses of Parliament. He was sorry the motion had been introduced, hecisuse it betrayed an angry feeling.--(Hear, hear.)—This was the fact, notwithstanding the compliment* which the Learned Gentleman had paid to the exalted to whom he had alluded. Feeling aith his Noble Friend, that the proceeding now req. 11111 l nen& ed would be likely to 'produce discord between the two branches of the Legislature—and conceiving that a little delay would not create any evil re sult—lie should oppose the 'notion. Colonel ELLISON was favourable to the proposi tion. He wished them to skew to she country. an they had done last night, that tlory were moo efficient House or Commons. They st.mil between She loving and the olead, in opposing onquiry—belween those benevolent individuals who had 141 property for Ilte relief of the poor. and those who ought to derive benefit from their bequests. It MU said, that such a measure would provoke too much inquiry. But what honourable man would shrink from inquiry? He mooted investigation in its fullest extent. He thought the inquiry oug h t to be wide and general—and, feeling that it should, he was out pleased with the mutilated slate in which the Bill on their table had been returned to tin in. Mr. AIIIRCIROMIIT said, he should certainly vote for his Learued Friend's motion. The Commission that would be appuiutesl under the Bill, which we* now almost certain to pass into a law, would be authorized to inquire into abuser in the appropriation of charitable fonds—and that which would be formed, if the Address were carried, would be called un to examine into the education of the pour, gene rally. He conceived they were two uteely counseled parts of the same system. The inquiry of the first body would putt the country iu possession of the amount f funds, appli cable to the purposes of education—and the investigation of the seethed, would, ►y shewiug the general slate of edu cation, enable the country to jailer of the best means of spplying those funds. He did not think that the measure seem proposed would entangle the House of CWII9IOIIII in broils with the other branu•b of the Legislature. The proceeding was neither disrespectful nor uorimatitutional—and if, as was creamily believed, the investigati )))) would disclose abuses of a most shameful stature, they would not be performing their dusty to the country, and particularly to thew whom they were especially hound to protect, if they did out afford every facility is. their power for the discovery and cure of those malversations which were so diabouoursble to au d ame connected with throe. Mr. LOCKHART stipported the 11K1111111 of his HOW and Learned Frieml. Few endowments for public elliteatiou, were not connected with charitable endowments for the edu cation of the poor. These charities, had naturally n pro pensity to lose their appointed protectors ; for the trustees, however properly appointed in the first instance, naturally were changed in course of time, fur others, lets honourable and holiest, and it would he Wand, that the evil now solicht to be remedied, was too often owing to the cupidity of those to whom these funds had been intrusted. Ont of to. ty or Ilifty thousand charities established over the surface of this country, slot more than Bve ur sia hundred had been re turned into the enrolment office. Could any thing more effeetmally eatabli'h the misconduct of Irwin., than this *reed ? Ile could not conscientionsly avoid voting for she The CHANCELLOR of the Eactivritura thought it far more parliamentary 11l negative the amendments, than vote in favour of the Aild.ess. There were but ahru cum sn to toltow--one was to introduce a it..w Val, the • • • other to embody in *unifier separate Bill the provisions which bad been left out of the Bill by the amendments made to the Lords. If the Crown aceede.l to the Address of that House,_ it would imply a censure upon 'be conduct of the ether House of Parliament. The Bill to its resent state he thought capable of doing winch; and even Imperfect as it had been re presented to be, it trheold have Ina most cordial support. The House would br at liberty to enter into detail be after end follow up the present Bill by supplementary measures, relculated to rands r more efil cluel the btuevolent intentions of the Legislature. Mr. J Seim shoul.l support the guidon of his Hoe. and Learned Sri sod. Isecause the great object of the Bill was to Rive the rowintist . es • power to investigate halo the ' 41113 %e` of oil rt. sitie. It 'nig*: be true that no Bill or Bills round be so eiseAtrueted as to prevent abuses inhere silly ; yet retry thing should he dune to render litt benefits of the Bill as generally telt as possahle. Front the Quak.re, ifsisse 3 .th/ to i l e t :t eharities wire exempted feum.the sons of this Bill, helm,' hail an spoil. tunity of lear ll tt g that they shootd be happy to expose the regulatiosi and euisibiet adopted hith respect to their reuniting les a n d e inritiew— They, anc all holiest sell.nue uu ug oleo, con Id have 119 ra a_ an tat to with that their conduct should not he strictly and scrupulously examinvel.—'near, hear.;—Fir reason' he 11111.0111t1 give the.enisti tttt of his Him. and Leaancel Fi ieud is most decided Inppurt.—e lfear. ) Sir P. RttIIIIFTT entered at length into the question be fore the H. 1114., and considers d that it usibecomine any honest liberaleats led man so interpose ohjecti tt tt s o f a will. ideal nalitre e in it case of Each urgency ets this, nimbi so ma terially atliseleel the interrrts of charitehle endowments of every deseriptimi. The grand object of the Hon. and Lear. ed mover was, to prevent the pliiiider of the funds nppro printed to the use of the poor. To this House this class of individuals looked isp as to their stature! protectors.. It was rani to talk to slur poor of Royal Commissions. They had been tries) with reap-el to the Revenue, the F.xcise, the Army, and the Navy. The result of all thew various Commissions had been—balled inquiry, and increased ex pense--and it was remarkable that Ministers bad in most itistattees reodereel these inquiries the means of increasing the patronage of Government, led the diseemination of that corruption it was expected they woold hive been the organ of repressing to • great degree. To talk always in such cues of equitable adjudications was absurd, especially where sheer corporate bodies were concerned. It was the swine in effect to defer justice its the manner it had been ad mitted to have been deferred In the Court of Chancery, as to deny this class of suitors justice altogether. It was a fortuitous circumstance, that the unclaimed dividends ih that Court had amounted to so many millions. What num bers of persons must have been mined seeking for portions of ibis property, to which it was obvious they mast in Many instances have beets justly entitled. There was no question that much of the property assigned to these charities had (mind its way into the pockets or those who bad beau •p -pointed its busters or euarilisos, or their devrendants He hoped Government wiesslei not he so imprudent and deaf to their hest iutereets as to lot quiet and see these fistula mis applied, without stretching forth their powerful band to secure to the poor the enjoyment of those charitable funds which at once tended most materially to trim' b the sum of human misery, and exalt the moral and beneficent cha racter of the wealthy of this country in the eyes of the world. Mr Cas7ll3lG should testifiers lii. objections solely to the proposition before the House. aid t reference to the speeches of those who had rrrerilrol him. He bed always been • fricud to inquiry. jester/illy speaking—but more par lieularly to inquiries of this nai tire ; although he would ad mit be was by no meant disposed to support those improve. mewls, as they had been termed, which the Bill, during the time of its loins( considered rail reconsidered by the Com. mittee sod the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, had undergone. The Bill had beets before the !tense from the middle of March last loud the 20th of May, when it was sent up to the Lords to be reconsidered by the m, at a time when there must naturally have been many other questlows of vital int podim before their Lordships. Upon its being disclaimed. their Lordships naturally felt some objections to go to so great • length as the Bill appeared to require. ll'he Bill contained three several objects—to one of these three they had felt considerable objection, and struck it out of the Bill. It was not unnatural they should feel none hesitation as to some of the provisions of a Bill, which bad occupied the at tention of she House of CM111110•11 fur die greater part of the Session. TI r present application to the Crown, appeared to him stremely to savour of a disposition On the part of that House, to so tailgate to itself all the powers of legualation , and set the deliberative capacity of she House of Lords (to which they had been considered entitled in theory and practice for titularies) altogether aside. Indeed, it almost avowed, that as the House held the strings of the peddle purse, it was the intention of the Commies's to 'hew their Lordships they had a short cut to the Throne, in despight of the House ilt Lords; thin exerting its influence most banefully upon the Crown, for the purpose amercing one branch of the Legisls ture.—e Neer, hear.;--He hail always considered the House of Lords as Invier an authority and intlernee concurrent with that of this House. The present application, by ad dress to she Crown, denied their Lordships the privilege of exercising that aisiburity and influence. Upon . these broad principles, slim ranre, he should give the motion of the Memlwr the must decided opposition He would maintain, that it was not • question of so much emergency as to authorise the house in calling upon the Crown to do for itself, that which is now appeared could not be done ha the misuser proposed, in eutiesirieiser with another branch of the Legislature. The Hon Gentleman might have taken an other course is, the first instance; hot nut having done so, he (weld not now, after Isis owls ritrlsust, turn round and tall ou the Wow In adopt a very novel, and perhaps hasty pre- Leant. Ile (Mr Canning) would watch the measure in its future course—not that he opposed its principle, or the oh jell in view, lint because he saw it pursued with a headlong reel, and inadeittive to necessary forms, which bulked like • desire to trample down, in eases of this kind, some of the most important forms of the constitution. Mr. Buornitast, in reply, denied (list he had violated any of the fo►ms of Parliament ; but ►he Bill, as sent from the Lords, was so altered that he could hardly recognise in it any part of his own offspring. This was owing to the baste, ■nd almost utter ignorance in which the alterations were made in another place Now, as to the time of introducing the Bill, the Right Hun. Gentleman had said, with cbroaolo gical accuracy, that the Bill had been brought in in March and postponed till April ; but lie said he did not eusaplato of this delay, it would indeed be very odd aloe did, for the de. lay arose during the recess, while the House may be said to have been every where but at Westminster, and while be himself was in a dement part of the ctiuntry.-(A laugh The Hun. and Learned Grutleman Own reviewed the pro gress of his Bill, and alluded ill eloquent terms, to the measure of Lord St. Vincent, the great model from which it Md been taken. It wax this which made the Bill en palatable, 'item among tlie patrons of Lord St. Vincent's 11314%211re; for they dinliked the yea and effective •pe ratiun of that Bill, and the Lord Chancellor, Lord Sidinoutk, and others, got alarmed, aunt were anxious for a milder, a calmer, and less decisive course of proceeding.—( ffser.)— Bo far front wishing to hare forced his measure in au un compromising rasaner, he had to the suggestions of those Noble sod Learned Louis elsewhere, who now charged him with pertinacity to his own epistles'. This was any thing lint a conflict with the House of Lords, for their Lord ships smendnieuts were to lie agreed to, and the only pro position wan, whether by en Address to the Crown a concur. rein inquiry might not at the name time be carried on in furtherance ..r the atomic object. The Gallery was then cleared for a division, when the numbers were— For Mr Brougham's Motion . Against it Majority against it Oo nor to the Oalirry we found Mr. BlsuLostitil giving notice, ant as intimate was now to tally 'militated, he would, early nod Session, move fur the appointment of Commi,sioners to inquire into the abuses to ch.irities generally, with a view to root out that system of phindering the Amite of the po.•r, which. it now seemed, was to be saiteliwied by +tome, protected with a fellow feeling by others, and shielded by n third party. lie hoped to titters minute thin myotent of plunder, hwercrer high %ere the par tire Connected with it --(Hear.) Luca Carttsacann thca retied the Hon. and Learned • - Gennetdan, whether he meant to move Ilse (oarsmen, th• House to the Lords' amendments to the FAltirati (((( the Poor Rill! Mr- libtouctwatit wished Snit In icnnw, whether the Hen Gentlmstrn oppo•ire !Mr Hatboro) e. - 0.11,1 adhere hM pledge of siipporting an Address to His !Crown if ti amendMents were negatived! ~ Mr CAIIIIIRG mid, the Hon. and Lenrned bentlemoir no right to lost these sort of question,. Mr. BROUGIIMIII would pr. fdr whit any other person should most the amesulmentc Lord CASTLEREAGH then moved, That the House a, agree to the Lords' amendments is this Mr BitornatOkaf was in illt• art of repeitidg hit guestitic 11 Mr. BATHURST, when Mr Vt'alti) roar to order, and said, that the Hon and Learned Gentleman lied defamed and Rendered (hove Glin differed with him on this °erosion. Af ter a long and acrim 111 l itt its rbseussimi ran the 'maul of order. between Mr. Wants, Mr Itunthrox, Mr. Catsartsc, BP.TitUllaT, and Mr. BROUGHAM, in the course s of which Mr. I ..! , 4,/rin.4 moved ao Adjo..roment. the !torts' Amend ment.. were azreed to—Mr. Ltrontit•st ithsoryiug, that good faith had hewn broken with hors in the progress of the Sill, Whirl. he now accepted, mutilated as it ES*, I'Stht r than lust it altogether. , . PANTHEON. Sir F. BUROLTT rose, I. moo, dial the Petition of M , Courtly, respecting the refusal of • License to him for thi. Pantheon, he referred ill a Committee. The 1100. [brunet reviewed the christen of Mr. Ctiorly, and censured. in soloor terms, as an unjust tool arbitrary , proceeding, the r.-fusel the Lord Chamberlain to grant a License for a place amusement, much wanted isr the neigthouthooh, ; d o had the approbation of the Magistrates. lie a1..0 slid, that the refusal was inept, as the Pantheon was in the C of Middleseit, and out of the Lord Chemberlain's jurii diction. . Lord YrattlotiTll said, that Mr. r:revillc had tnerrly temporary license, a n d fur performers muter invent...lr ye!. of age. It was especially 'remitted that the Yauthron sl not be opened a:: a regular theatre, and yet, in ilefianc•• this, Mr. Coady wanted to hold a pewe" !older M.. (.resill which the latter was never 'who' ised to have fur himself. Mr. J. CALIMRT denied Mr. Clouds's claim, and read ex. tracts in support of his opinion from the Chamberlain' ()Ace. Mr.iiairwußst said the whole east bad been already sill Ideally investigated. Lord J. TUYPI Nlt denied that Mr. Comely had ever the au tbOriti he sought fur not of the Chnotherbiiiia 4 )(Nye. • General Tnentiion &aid ,that the Thsotie IVllUldbe a Very great accommodation to the district of Mary-lc-bow. The complaints against the Opera Muse wuhld be in a peat degree obviated if there, was that sort of competition which licensing this house would excite. Mr. Pettit Moong said, that so far from there being , want of rivalry iu theatrical exhibit' there was rather too much, for they ;sere rivalling each otbro lu Ibe fruittifl. As he believed, the stnirmenla in the PetitioU to he ed, be hoped the Hon. kfarrniet would eirthdrae, him mot Sir F. BURDETT irplied at some length in support of MI Cundy's claims, and Mil - Mated his intentimi of reviving the discussion on lonise future occasion. After a few words Irons Lord YARDOUTth the Hon. Baronet aitlalrew Isis. mutton, there not tieing Member* enough preat rat to go thrriogh with a divisioo. The Hun. Baronet then gave moire, that he would, or Friday, submit a motion to the louse on t h e subject of M, Mallinson's Life Preservir. Mr. IlaTittelisT brought op the &port of the Seirci Com mittee on the General Index of the Journals—Ordered to be taken into consideration on Friday next. On the motion of Lord CASTLEREAGH. the 1400114., at Hale. past Twelve o'clock, adjourned until Friday next. ~~ .1 BR/%'/Sll EillMMAriott. We hive had to touch more than once on thill painful topic, and we are again ri nl , t l6,l t o to it. Whatever may be the real citise, it is too true that the mania has taken deep hold Of the )31/;• pulation of this port and the neighbouring pari; around, large portions of which have resolved an, are resolving to become the Inli,•liitaiits of ii American Lind. Diving the past and fireSrlit ace, in particular, many have embarked; aiming others, Mr. Hornbrnnk, a woollen.inanufacturer, from the neighbourhood of Tavistock, who is said to have taken the whole of his estshlishmen., consiiing m.l sixteen men and apprentices, and h.iir women, for the avowed purpose of carrying on OA future coil cern at Pittsburgh, the Burningham of America We could mention other mites, which die pliblik would hear with some sorpriae. A silvereniith at Plymouth is employed almost from morning to night, in furnishing the emigrants w i h gold ono silver in exchange for bank paper; Were we ti state the amount thus exchanged, and which them e froth may be considered as totally lost, its well IC the possessors, to the mother country, it would be quite evidence enough, if any he wanting, of the spirit of emigration.—(Plsentouth Paper./ ELECTION NEWS: General Grosvenor has signified his intention to offer him: self at the rusaibg election, as a candidate for the represen tation of Chester. We are authorised to state, that a county Gentleman, highly respected by the cititens of Chester, will offer him self as a candidate in a few days, in COlijUnCliUll gill, Si, John Grey Egerton —(Cliesfer ('ournaf.) For this county we suppose S:r Wm. Rowley rind MI Gooch will resume their seats unopposed. The irdrin n dent conduct of the former gentleman, during his Parli: mentary career, readers him highly u••erviug the a t i o ati., of one of our representatives, and ne can only wish that he. had a colleague more ansiona for the rights of the p opt, and less inclined to pin his faith on the blerve of the Milo: ter, than the latter. We understand that both the present Members for th: borough intend to retire, and that Lord Easton dud Co:otti , Upton Mill Ith the new caudithites. Yesterday (Tuesday I. .rd Charles Fitart4 introduced his nephew, Lord E. to his In. tended conatitocuts, the Corporation; and, nr rein tut found on great difficulty in gai 111 l their suffragt4. Mr. Round ((me of the Members for Ipswo ust.o u ls, withdrawing himself tam that borough, sod Mr. Newton, of EWE, neer Thetford, has stinted with Mr. Crickitt.— (Bur! PaPer-) Mr R H Gurney and Mr. Wm. Smith, as Candidates fait the City of Norwich, have published a joint address, di dar ing their sent..... to be in uni , on for the cause of tiln l ie and their wishes that the Electors may consider their com (Chance of one as a lIIMMAIT, Collllllltielser. oti4 ma t tbeother, being only a completion at the bane !Metal Tiros, At a Meeting of friends to the litue interest, en %oda, serinighe, Messrs. Anson and Rumbold were puhli. nounced Candidate! for the Representation of la:moult; The former is the son of Lord Aia.on, the latter tl.e of Admiral Sir T. Trowbridge So much depends on tin name Moue in these cases, that it is espected one of ►he present Members will retire et the outset. Came Met. Jtikt 1. Oa Tuesday a dinner Was given at the TOM 4-I.+ll y oho present Members ft., this Isoruogh ;G we r si, rind' Monist* to about 150 of thew friends soil constituents, the party we. sotiuptnoudy entertained with the Mild de monstrations of joy. Same day there Wes ecisecc-d ocelot siwi dinner at the Sun Hotel, of the freemen I aiii. I 1 e, mirpelidritt velitleftlen of tilt town, attd some of the 1: itreisiiy, in the interest of Mr. H. I. Adeane, who has offireil ninisrlf a candidate on pare intkpet..i. nt pritietpirs, bcpat nit (Will parry po= hike, to rescue the botiiugh from its lung awe of thrid. dem 'lv, meeting was I.uly a. areetatik tonal en cournging tii t he ratter of Mr Adman soil of fi l deperid. toes. Mr. Adult* was supported' go Ilse right by Ite • • 1 once or ll iiiii e Rir here In a if the t.• nest had 1 . pernin e PIISC (1•• t • inestior tot eald, nett and 4 111. Al . - If order. ‘C, Alt r winch ' 4111t1111- 'ii t•W•i. Ile an 'vet • ; • of Mr. for the !brunet I 1.1500. c I -focal of Meer Yf .1 which lid, that ty juris. ter; ty- ro 55 .:t4 ,„ el ltl initc- of end tu• terletn's tidy .0 f. ; the re- e a very pent n which • being • ; whey 't tr. so. 4 . , of ms. not the e Hon. ember* 111.1, or of Mr. a Cont. rd to it Half. • tl thil tl t I % is toil he 131/;. Part. d 1 ) . •1 • 1r II : % , t neck 'ithere, , rII the : a bare of !11, for • e Con.' lerlest. letthlte lith at tag tit d mid • ;Moto ; . brut e- • nt teld llc of the 'er prtrco-n tlemnst, r huh- till, Si, ▪ Mr I dry, so. Nth:, Iltolt 1.-11 • I ' 'hal lice 11. {tilt , Duns i fur dile Cutout y . I. .rd hie In. resutnt ; attends kbewioti, 314111 (It (Ser- f-11u fly. • It I . pion I a &aria, I I au: • mow it. In- 1 .11;•w tin the of the . tit 1. i y 1111* ci, t.od it., •io.l nal de- /I " at the aleruen atteteet .dtdete • rly Ito: r not en. Irpcnd- by sit ll , ,