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Mali known before • the ribernaelOnfte reconnoitered. Lo;difieffidgto'll.liiiii!l he had 'skill upon othernifeeistona ; hutsl i loi littbsl thanked, as a liffilfacomnimiderte dry, he would deny." Pik • himself had victory a rernise. eed‘fhe name wait ppr .priate. It was the iiitentiori tb march and even to fight a battle beyistsd not conceive why Ferrol should , conseqin ore of the battle of Talavera...4' l lied that there was any other retreat for t h a n that through Deiletora ; and ie d their condition as most deplorable, them nwt having tasted food for eight and hours previous to the battle, and hundreds serished on the road, from nirre famine, in treat. He would not agree to give a pletninin The Spanish cause was now more hope. ever. Where, then, was the advantage of ti He could net agree that the army was ..er since, than before its losses, and tate continental efforts, as calculated a military character of the cduatry, though raised that of the soldiery, whose gallantry _ .ASTLERZA 6 I I spoke in explanation. CaAwrvito spoke in favour of the mo conteotled. that the measures taken by ington, were conducted by the greatest STEW ART went into the merits of the most minutely, and 'hewed. from Ins vol. ledge, that Lord Wellington acted, hose measures, that *lone brought glory dud reflected honour an his country. slitiAm observed, what he had to istate in in very few words. The arguments ,earl did not divest him oft he opinion, lovae of Talavera was a glorious vucvoty. •ntlemen nn the opposite side 'peke of • believed, when the victory was first an. n this country. there was not a man but it. lie am afraid we had got into too ,tare speeial pleading, that would argue the result, not the valour and general , It put him iu mind of a story of a , who was asked, how he Gone by a visi ire nee hiv face ? " Why. I beat him, and me, but I gave Out first ;" so with the as the victory was claimed on both aides ; came first, and were repulsed. In the fortress, they could not do more than re army that invaded it ; that is, the enemy Alen they please ; Kea are they not to Ise few.proserving the forWeas against a an d,. although not able to folios. them ? . yea say. Lord Wellington did not gain , beemoo he was not ilble to harass them in rest ? He had heard, to the course of de. had hero done, and what might have ; hut was it necessary theto problem in rhich had been primed, should be called is in that Musa. Then it has been rub., thei the battle of Talavera was a victory ; shOuld they prevent it from operating mods as such? They load no advantage victory at Corunna, except that the ar able to save thetreelves. If Lord Wel had aced imprudebtly before the battle, not to retract or withdre. as much as the of a *lather *rim the vietorY he hail ohtiim been argued, that, although he might be f;enersl in battle, yet he was not capable of campaign, for hr bad not secured a •h arguments proved theavelres to be for he bar! c h ewed that he had a retreat, , by rive:sting in safety, after 'hewing that eln annuehing. He then entered into the the Epiovish erony under flesteral Cuesia, did not charge with treachery to him, but %brn him. and entered into a siatemeae .-vex of the British and Spaniab army. He proceeded to Male, that altbough.Frasee had '- of great skull. yet had they not min great secured a battle, that the breaking of a Ight have prevented them of ! But to 'mkt the question under the general head, the• five consoeusnces were not to be put in ieith the military glory we had obtained. asked, would as engsgeinent, that only alitary glory, prove advautagaous to the H. would answer, yes; if military valour • for national strength ; and he conceived more service to the nation at large, than 4 1 4 of a auger island, or a ship st sea— hear 1-10 or Is years ago. their army was as nought ; it was thought, on the Conti vol. might do something at *Gm; that we owl of sea animal. Our achievements in first eutitleti us to the name of a Military fie battle of Maids confirmed it; and he give the battles of Vinson, Comma, ,era, fur a whole Archipelago of sugar ;Hexer ! hear —The whole Iceberg • of th e country had changed in their un .ae,vy• They betas to feel they wanted more than • Navy to support them. ?ter was an action in this world, but some uioht tio down and investigate it, cud find It; ino they were not to give credit in the . lie eav sorry that such a letter av load t by lord Wellington to the Govern- I ever h-en written. As to the Span believed A set forth nothing but what vat it amt to proclaim glory whichdid not It was like a sea engagement. And I not be contended that the hull of a melting to do with the guns which victory ; or like • spesr that inflicted a road it be isnd that the staff was net of see iift the Spothili army ; they del all that fired of them, they kept their position. cory in itself must hare been of use to the 'use, for it shewed them that a British invieribl.-, and the victory well deserved • of the reward moved to be bestowed on inure. rrri.r.eow concerted in the vote of it asked, what would have been the situ*- . army; if Aliiiisters bad given the same o.cretion to a eosuinauder of a ICPS eater.. ' active spirit ? *ILLS, .:DAlis spoke is.forour of the Me lft+ogs M ATigaw.—wit was the first er hod the honour of agreeing oak thr 'rd (Castlereagh) either on trelailool or °Om"' but gitk his Nobie Relative, Gen. Stem. • ould hate* ee been race very. he ha at he a hosibtl u r a t . that dry. lied she virtu are aPPr•T riN 'piaMadrid. and • ' • 4 t cout4l not c' v ited in cony , e denied the ' , 3 1 1- 16 4 e army that pre vented th , of t h mint of than n 'Put, ,rty boars pro aring perished ei,. retreat. He 1 ) Ga. r a.hilevs. Thu thaa ever. victory? He „. s strange' I`e a t rded nor tat %.1 auk the 'tidal ..ey had raised t M !Al 1.. t Lord CASTLE and* General Ca* eau„'me ; awl coot' of t , t, pu ll'et I tigtol -It.;, •tittary -kill. toes Gegieral STEI • Tit par.ttt moat t l i e ititt.tri• far • ' , IN Id t..uk tioae o dud r it,._ Mr. '.Vralitta e do 111 - bad g tvr it heard c' it the battle I et L is fon. Gcntlemet t rchog : lie bees' .aiinceil in this ioned in it. I • nue) military s eg , •erely on the r o „ vitt« hip .hewn. It • f o ta r t 7 tu it' re w o l i l i o h rcdtrl e beat me., 61 • ar.4 . Truth, as the • • t they cause Of e fortress hie the army • yes it when tl thanked for pn a ad, ; t enor enemy, al !rah Then, r, iii yon Noble a victory, becvto whir their retreat ? I L L i .w bate, whit had hile is beendone ; hut Euclid, which h tvheis • juts ion in that 111" thr I t I , of ,s and why sluitali intii on thine mods irons the victor alta r old is my arce ahle te rdedGuyte' had act it ought not to Gwwr s hada h tiers! Mbar, been aro able General rialto i• • din • Olt They tend. Such a seen iallaeYous; for hi 3 . 0 it. arid that, by peg ,lees b he mid eta sum Gsor state of the Epa who whom he did n o t Oh a to tho.e about 4 Nul• of the fo r ce o f then proceeded I eu General• of grey hurl rill's, and sec ur might thread might list bad anew of the gine aid; "productive cc 3031 „ comparirm %fah o It might be **ice wt to acquired spilitati country ? Ice, g;4M necremiry for Ives it of ninth inure ahik the taking of a t eat (firer . 1 hear .'l- - COnWdethd as 1101 lON raMto that ee rr were a king., of sag& ▪ vet LgYPI nest euti loud r°"cc: the bs:t j; scold oat give he and T a l aiera , I , 1 14 islandv.—(lleor .. It " Pl`fere of th lIA i 'tory ravar,ty. latuettEn g 'nor 4 „ Thltre overt. was • 3 04 Persons toi 4 l.t tit 64 some fault ; 'nut t act cm " toys. Ile , fife; Leen vent by gotta had e‘ re buds, he belier ura 'resume ; but it t itio It belong to lien. (44 " it could not . had hog ▪ la Pined the victo rout(' It I r si. 4 eke? with th tl "S ccquired of n,, The victory in it pea r Spanish cause. th II P'Y yeas invinei honour of th, yi it by that I inu,r • Mr. Lyrytr • • thanks : but ask( cd thus es t h e th r ot3 4 Hicl of diametl th 'he Piling activ o y Mr. CIIIAILLS Ise linEfikoo. General Hew kip be ever hal p t vvoole L or d m ai oalojacts bat / art Ns* hippy he had always been on terms of frientivii4o,,aud no Willi more approved of his eon ' deef•thits lie did. He never linewrd the Noble LAM •aft fctinent before ; which, he supposed, wse becaitie,isb wns nut or o%ce ; he trii•ted that beWould'tiever see him again as a Minister. He ran his' 'eau hearty concurrence to the tote of dvimits elf his Noble Friend ; an d a l so t h at h e was I psiolitihe could call lbw countrymen, whose On ••vilids rad great achievements he could only com pare to those of Marshal Lannes. Chaeral Taat.r•Tota explained. Mr. Pointing's' said, be we* aware that the vote he should give would not be consonant with the feelings of the House. He knew little of military affairs, end he believed the major pert of the House were in the same situation ; ;et they were the per sona who were to approve or disapprove. Ile did not wish, at that late hour of the night, to enter into the merits of the battle of Telaeura ; but this he knew, they fought, and were not able to maintain their ground. It had been compered with the attack on Gibraltar, but it was quite con trary; for there it was defended and preserved for the country—there was • motive to fight for. He thought the victories in Egypt and Maids were sufficient to establish our military fame, without sending Lord Wellington to hazard the treasure of the country, the valuable lives of their soldiers, where no possible good could result from it. It would not be presumed to be argued, that the Noble General had the least knowledge of the resources of the country which he 06 precipitately marched into. That the battle of Talavera was fought with intreindity, no man could doubt. But the duty of a soldier and a Generalwere very different. The first, inspired with the duty and love he owes his country, is wilting to undergo all privation., is even careless of his life; where danger is, there ha flies, with a willinguess to forfeit it ; but the duty of the latter, a commaiider, ia quite different. He ought tole careful that t;ie sol dier should suffer no privations, that he should not endanger his life, without •c'ual necessity, sod the service of his counter, require. Was Lord Welling. ton thus careful ? this was a plain fact, on which every men of understmarling could come to a conclu sion, whether vested with military knowledge or not. He would not detract from the merits of those who fought under Lord Wellington ; he was sensible they did as much as men could do, and no ho nour their country could roofer ou them would be equal to their deserts. He concluded by saying, that he would give his support to the amendment. Mr. Calms°. in an eloquent speech, decla.ed himself in favour of the vote of thanks, and delend ed the conaluct of Lord Wellington. Lord Fouritroni, supported the amendment. Sir I . IIIOM - As TU•TOp rose, amidst a loud call for the quesrioi, aid said a few words in favour of the vote of thanks. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw : but Ilse House did not divide, of course the vote of *thinks was carrivd. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and' the House Adjourned at Half-past Two o'CLoca. • ENGLLiII 4 'lloLie MEETING. 1111114.41011111r" - 11 0 DON, r z; evict: At • oumsto us in most respectable Meeting of English Roman Catholic Noblemen, Gentlemen, and Clergy, held this day, at the St. Alban's vern, the following Resolutions were unanimously folopted : The Right Hen. lord !MURTON in the Cloth; Resolved, I.—That the Roman Catholics of England are subject to several penal and diaabling statutes. which have the most humiliating and de pressing operation opon them, and by which they are reduced to a state of political degradation, highly injurious to their country and to themselves. ,: , Sl.--That arrived, as the United Kingdom is; at the crisis of its fate, unanimity among all classes of iiis Majesty's subjects, is most essential for the preservation of the Empire, and that nothing can produce that unanimity, but an equal participation in the rights, privileges, and immunities, of the British Constitution. 3.—That the Petition signed by the Roman Ca tholics of England, for the repeal of these statutes, be presented to Parliament. 4.—That Earl Grey be requested to present the same to the House of Lords, and that the Right lion. William Windham be requested to present the same to the House of Commons. S.—That the English Roman Catholics, in soli citing the attention oll'arhament to their Petition, are actuated, not more by a wine of the hardships and disabilities under which they labour, than by a desire to secure, on the most solid foundation, the peace and harmony of the British Empire : And to *Main for themselves, opportunities of manifest ing, by the most active exertions, their zeal and in terest in the common cause iu which their country is engaged, fur the maintenance slits freedom and indep-mleuce ; and that they are firmly per. suaded, that adequate provn.ton fur the mainte nance of the civil and religious establishments of this Kingdom, may he made, consistently with the strictest adherence, on their part, to the tenets and discipline of the Roman Catholic Religion. —And, that any arrangement founded on thus basis of mutual satisfaction ami security, and extending to them the full enjoyment of the (611 constitution of their country, will inert with their concurrence. 6.—That the Thanks of the English Roman Ca tholics be given to our Secretary, Edward Jerrimg liani, E.ri. for his unabated zeal, persevermg assi duity, and distinguished prudence, in the manage ment of our cause. 7 Cie Thanks or this Meet nit 1,4 given to the 1Z , ; hi I t , .nnurrhh! Lord Stourtoss, for hip C..t. duct in the Chair. S rut: atox, LON DON, FRIDAY, FgaILUAZY Y. It is with singular satisfactiou we have to publish, this dry, the resolutions entered into at a nume rous add respectable meeting of English Roman Catholics, held yesterday at the St. Alban's Ta vern. They evince a spirit of candour and libera lity highly characteristic of Englishmen ; and see call upon our countrymen to peruse these most important resolutions,' and to say, whether men, many of 'them descended from the founders of British liberty, ought net immediately to be ad mitted to every right. privilege, sod immunity, of the British Constitution. The Inquiry into the Expedition" to the Scheldt commences, this day, iu the House of Commons. Mr. YQRILE, last night, gave notice of his intention to exclude strangers, in order to prevent the pro- ceedings from being reported. from day to day, in the Newspapers, as in the ease of the Dnke of You. The accuracy of our Reports, upon that occasion, was never questioned, and we are equAlly 'prepared for the present occasion. Our contem poraries, also, seemed anxious to do justice to the subject. We do'not, therefore, see any good likely to result from this extraordinary proceeding : on the contrary, if persevered in by Mr. Yoaec, it may do much harm. Besides, we do not see why more delicacy and reserve should be observed in the come of Lord CASTI.6itEA6II and Lord CIIIAT• lAN, dim) was thought necessary in the case of the Ktun's son. The remaining Papers respecting the Expedition to Walcheren, were laid before the House of Com mons, last night. They consist of four dr.tinct sets. The first, marked letter A. is • series of die -patches from Viscouirt CRIITLEREAUR. the Earl of LIVERPOOL, &c. beginning lith July, and ending 15th Sept. lu these, the orders to Lord CHATEAU describe the destruction of the naval force at Flush ing and Autwerp, and of the arsenals at these places, arid the rendering the navigation of the Scheldt useless to the enemy, with the retention of Walcheren, as the whole object of the Expedition. Lord CHATEAU is praised by Lord CASTLEREAGH for the vigour and rapidity with which he had pro scented this object. and the letter acknowledges that, by the fall of Flushing. the obstacle to the completion of the remaining objects was seasonably overcome. Having represented, however. the in creased sickness of the army. and other obstacles, Lord CHATHAM admits, in his letter of the ed Sept. the receipt of orders to return to England with the remainder of the army, after leaving provided for the security of Walcheren. A report to his Lord ship, by Mr. Wxio, the Inspector of Hospitals, dated the 11th September, describes the natural unhealthiness of the island. The endemic diseases, he says, are fevers, which commence about the mid die of August, and continue until the frosty wea ther, and that nearly a third of the roliabitants are attacked every sickly reason. This was the very period in which our troops were sent to it; and, he adds, that great loss must be the inevitable consequence of their remaining there. We find, however, that although Lord CHATHAM was ordered to return on the 2d September, the ulterior objects of the Expe dition being then considered impracticable, Minis tent did not determine upon the evacuation of Wal chereu until the ch.of November. These are some oft he principal points in the set marked A. , The next set, marked C. consists of dispatches from General Sir ETAS COOTS, who succeeded the Earl of CHATHAM in the commend of the army, commencing 91st of August, and ending the 47th of October, when he resigned the command to General Dote. They are little more than a series of complaints of the increasing w chorus of the army, ■nd the necessity of increased medical assistance, and of additional supply of wine and bark. So early as the 17th Sept. the state of the troops in Walcheren was deplorable. The sick, at that date, amounted to 8,200, leaving only 7,800 fit for service, ■nd the casualties in the last fortnight were 49e. Their situation was aggravated by want of accom modation on the Island, and in our own resources: and Sir ETRE states it as his opinion, that if it was to be retained, it must be fed by England. Mr. Buanowts, the Deputy Inspector of Hospitals, reported', on the 18th of that month, that at all periods the climate of Walcheren was destructive to the health of armies. ■nd gives a melancholy picture of the state of our army, at that date--Sir Eras Coors, in all his letters, describes it as most frightful, and was constaotly pressing it upon the consideration of Mini-tors ; yet, so late e s the tad September, no comforts, or wine, sol•crt ed for the sick, had arrived ; end the quan tity of bark was not sufficient for more than five days' consumption ; and the sick amounted to 9.006 men. On the 14th of Ovtuber. the news of the peace between France and Austria had reached Flushing; and, of course, so lap ■s a diversion in favour of the latter was any part of the object. it ceased to east; yet our troops were let to moulder away, and the island was not evacuated until the cod of December. Sir Ls at Coors's request, en fhe 17th of October, to resign the eonemand, elates this set of the papers._ . _ The next set is No. 4, and is intitled " The pre paration of the Naval Force," beginning with the 9th of June, t 809, and ending the 99Th ..hiluary. 1410. The first paper in this aeries is a Memoran dum of the Board of Admiralty, in which it states, m the opinion of the Sea Lords of t h at department, that Walcheren should be taken in the first in stance, and that the fleet could not go up the nar row part of the Scheldt, unless the army were in possession of both banks of the river. The order from the Lords Comnximioners of the Admiralty to Sir RICHARD STRACHAN, of the 17th July, accor4- ingly recommends to hum the occupation of Cad sand, nearly at the same time of the lauding of the troops at Walcheren.. .The instructions to Lord CHATHAM, dated 16th July, prescribe, that if the at. taino3ent of all the objects of the Expedition should he rendered impomilde, by the enemy collecting in such strength tls to render perseverance inconsistent with the safety of the army, lie is to secure as many objects as possible, and prepare to re-embark the troops. The fourth set, which completes those dorm moots. is No. a. and is entitled '4 Evatuatiou ;" containing • series of letters, principally hot) Sir ft. STILICHAN and Admiral Omar, commencing 13th September, 1809, and escrittl down to so late a date as sorb January, 1810. The &et i a letter from Sir RtcwtaDS7aLCllAM, doted r3th Septem. her, in which he is of opinion, that the island ought not to be given up, that it is • post of great import ance, that lie does not apprehend that it cosines unhealthy than the low purl. of Kent, mid that the sickness of the troops is owing to the Emory of the service. Here, however, we must ohierte, that Sir RlCtlett, STitecit t!‘ could not be so well acquainted with the rial case, a, the Ge nerals and the earthed men on shore.—With •'•e view to its reteation, however, the gate.o Alrirr-1 transmitted • plan for the dtfenee of the ; to which it is that the mod• inns- tie pally navel. •tnl that 12,000 ineu us e ems-. sidered fully adequate to the duty of t'e —ln a sulosewie3t letter, however, 1-e asfiS . Siie, that, in consequence of t'.• Conturesital pen.•e 1, my .1 force necessary to obstruct the navnpat•o.+ of the Scheldt, most not be iuferior to th.t whir might be necessary to intercept the sups of the enemy, if Walcherea was not in our posseesni.— Capt.Cocasuan, in his letter of the 29th o c i uber , also gives it as his decided opinion, diet it is in our power to keep the Island, by means of a very Ceinw siderable military and naval force—the nailiaary force to amount to 9,000 men ; but he thinks the Island is not worth the expense of dvfmding it. _ The reniateflet of this series comdalf 0(114 prt•pisr. •lions for the tinal evacuation of thivplace. In the papers delivered on Wednesday, aid from which we made extracts yesterday, is the opinion of Gee•. Doll, upon the question of re•aining Walcheren. He thinks that it could not have been retained without euorinous ripener, and that the total demolition of the works must inevitably rein the Island. General Dow is very minute in his accouut of .the force end preparations necessary to *cease the place against attack. Beside. • the works at Flushing being thoroughly repaired, the defeoces iocreased. the flanks strengthened, the ditches deepen ed, and casetnates for 3,500 men constructed. he reconansends the building of id towers, with a powerful battery to each—block-ships, powder magazines, bucob-proof hospitals, store-house•, mi litary communications wide encinzh to al n•t CN. - artillery moving at six miles an hour, 1111.-1 th.lt wi .:ompleted the works would require 0.1,150 so as to make the island capable of an defence. We do not find that any of the Papers no'ice the reason which prevented a descent upon Cad sand, although that measure was strongly recom mended, tad orders given fur its execution. After the Gallsries were cleared. on Widneeiday night, in the House of Commons, and M. B4wtn's list was adopted in preference to that of Mr. Psacrvat., the names of Sir J. INCIV. Pour for Ireland, and Sir GRORGH NV•atmeoLK. for Scotland, were added to the Committee cm motion of Mr. PoSISONIY, without the Aiini4er's venturing to ditide the House on either, though manifestly most averse to their insertion. Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON, on account of his deafness. and Mr. Gleams, from feeling the in. convenience of regular attendance, wished to retire from the Committee. We find that Jam, Guirtt, Esq. is not treminrer to the Proprietors ui the proposed establishment or a public Stock Market. as we yesterday stated. The election of a Meeker to serve in Parl•*- "sent for the county of Emelt, in the mom of Jun B uLLocK , Ey l d ecease d, co m m enc ed on Wedne— day. At the c ore of the Ant day's poll, :kg canis ters declared by the Sheriff were -- John Archer thiablan. Eaq. vamagu Berforee, £.q. Mejority in favour ni Mr. neutrino .. • . 47s It is supposed the poll will Ile kept open several days, The Secvess's fiat levee will be te-niettow eveuing. 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