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~! I 1 1;4 TT dbii . isa du. eel Friend . imparts fit r. I aad he • the rev his Ho, lag Wa.i meat al • ti 1. 4- 4 • I 41 ii .c .. would ask whether the prohibitory laws were tot almost nominal, while, by means of smuggling, such quantities of silk were intro. ducal into the country ? The House was only going to make that itgal, which was effected by illegal means. - Laid on the table and ordered to be printed. fit. `DAVENPORT presented two petitions from the silk snrufacturers of Congleton, against the repeal of the dudes "A niilar en petition was presented by hlr* BLACKBURN, from etthe -manufacturers of Manchester. Another was brought up by the Sheriffs, front the lard Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council of the City of London, against tar repeal of the duties on silk. Mr. Aldegnan Ii'OOD hoped the House would consider the situation in which a noinber of persons were placed whose total 41 este weion the article of silk. The parties concerned were aT illir ettgly averse to the proposed repeal ; and the present peti tioners thought that the House.would much better consult the in ternee of the country by repealing the assessed taxes. Laid on the table. • Mt. Alderman HEVGATE, in alluding to the tax on coals, ob served that there was no tax which, as it referred to the city of Lon don. apPeared more odious or bore unjust. He trusted his Ma iesty's Ministers would take this subject into consideration, in pre ference to one of which the country knew comparatively nothing.— Laid ua the table. Another petition was presented by Alderman BRYDGES, from the silk-manufacturers al Spitalfields, against the repeal of the laws vjhich prohibit the importation of silk. A sipailir. petition was presented by Alderman HEVGATE, fronts the inhabitants of Sudbury ; and another by Sir 'l'. LETH BRIDGE, from the silk-throwers of Bronghton, in Somerset. ahire.—Ortleted to lie on the table, and to be printed. Mr. BARING presented a petition from persons interested in the silk trade at Taunton, stating that the ruin of their trade would be the consequence of any alteration in the prohibitory laws. COAL DI °TiEs. Mr. WI LBRAHA3I presented 'petition from the inhabitants of New Romney, against the duties on cnal carried coastwise. ioriera GRATTAN moved for a return of the quantity of woe! cx from Ireland since the year 1800, distinguishing each year. ..-Ordered. LICENCE DUTIES. • Ur. T. WILSON presented a petition from the licensed victu idlers and innkeepers of the ward of Aldgate, praying foe a repeal of the Beeler duties.—Laid on the table and ordered to be printed. Mr. 11. DAVIS presented a petition from the inhabitants of Bristol, prasing for a repeal of the aisessed taxes. Mr. BRIGHT supported the petition, and observed, that such a repeal would materially serve the agricultural interests. After a few a onls from Mr. BENETT (Wiltshire), the petition was ordered to be laid on the table and to he printed. Dir. Alderman W(X)D moved for a return of the number of quarters of barley shipped during the year 11193 from Scotland to England, and also limn England to Ireland—Ordered. DI 'TIES ON CIDER. Sir J. COTTERii:CY;;entei tietitTlWlfrent the inhabitants .of the city of Hereford, praying for a repeal of the duties on eider. , --Lsid on the table. TITHE BILL. Mr. ABERCROMBi prerrenteriapelition from the diocese of floyne, in the county of Cork, against the Tithe Bill.—li.•aid on the table. SLAVERY. Lord W. RUSSELL presented a petition from the clergy and gentry of the county of Bedford, praying for the Lbolition of egni slavery. A similar petition wskpresented by Mr. BRIGHT, from East (;renferil; and another by Mr. N. CALVERT, from Huddesdon, In Bertfordshire...—baid oft the table and ordered to be printed. DUTIES ON Vl'ool.. Mr. S. AVORTI.iii presented apetition from the inhabitant% if Curie, praying for a gradual repeal of the duties on wool.—Laid xi: tilt table, and ordered to be printed. igisli UNION DITTIES. Mr. S. WORTLEY presented s petition from the inhabitants a Huddersfield against the union duties with Ireland. Mr. PEEL gave notice, on die part of his Hon. Friend the Secre .tary fur Foreign Afrairs, that he should move that the motion eels .tire to the %Vest Indies should be postponed from Friday next to the ensuing Tuesday ; and he observed, that if' a Noble Lord (J. Russell) had been in his place, be should bare requested him to differ his motion, which stood for Tuesday, to a future day. SCOTCH SALMON FISHERI ES. Zr.A LYNDSAY presented a petition front the inhabitants of I Aberdeen, praying to be heard by Counsel relative to the salmon Mammies of Scotland. Mr.MUME trusted that this subject would be brought before ag;urntaittee of the Douse, if not during the present, in the course .of the next Session. Mr. LYNDS-11' thought it desirable that it should be done. observed, that it involved public rights as well as private ad vantages. The petition was laid on the table. 'Ordered to lie an the table and tab* printed. SMALL DEBTS RECOVERY BILL. Colonel i lliißalpresenteti;peu'tior;fro;; - itre traders of Wisbeach, in Cambridgeshire, in favour of the Bill for the reco very Of small debts. Ordered to lie on the table. I 'Sir 31. N. RIDLEY presented a petition from an individual named Robert Foster, complaining of the injury done to public budding, by smoke, and stating that he had invented some method, to which he humbly entreated the attention of the House, for the prevention of such injuries. COMBINATION LAWS. Mr. 111/31E presentedtpetition frown the hat manta La 'ndon and Southwark, agai nst the Combination Laws. Ordered to le on the ta ble. RIBBON LODGES IN IRELAND. LortIALTHORP postponed from to-morrow, tbr which night a notice had been giveu by the Noble Lord, to T hursday next, Ms motion fur the correspondence between Richard Newton Bennett, ..Esq., and Mr. Gregory, in the year 1823, respecting the auppres- Mon of an Amnesty to the Ribbon Lodges in Ireland,. also, a 31e s:wad from Messrs. Leslie and Gore to the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, on the ease of Thomas Hughes; also, any correspondence beer/ado the Irish Government and the Magistrates of the counties N' Mayo and Galway, respecting an Amnesty to the Ribbonmen in Mr. BUXTON presented to the House a petitkon, signed by 23.000 of the silk weavers of London and Middlesex. As it was wished on the other side of the House to postpone the discussion on this subject, until a later hour, he should only take that oppor • tunity 'of saying that there was something in this petition, dis nnguishing a from all others that had hitherto been presented to the House ou this must interesting question. All the other ;tendons pruereded from the masters or those capitalists who had sunbaked large fortunes in the silk trade, soil to whose petition there was, according to the policy of the Chancellor of the Es • chequer this simple answer—•• True it* you now complain of the imuntaliate consequences of a liberal policy; you say that it will produr,e immediate inconvenience; I admit that argument; I can not resist the fact, but it is the business of legislative enactment to provide for future, as well as temporary advantage, and therefore, • th ough you are likely to sustain some protein inconvenience, that incaovemence will be more than compensated by your subsequent advantage." Now that answer, which might apply well to those caoitalista, was not soiled to the individuals whose names appeared • tethat petition. It came from those whose daily bread depended eta their daily labour ; who might be said to live from hand to mouth, and whose wants were so immediate as to make any appeal to their distant advantage as idle mockery. With this observation he should move that the petition be brought up. Mr. 1;1,1.18 observed, that this was not the first petition from the operative SellVerA. He hail himself presented one from the same body * few evenings since, and at this moment there were in his possession from 15 to 20 petitions from the same class of silk manufacturers. There were also at that moment as many pea -tip:A in preparation as would well nigh cover the floor of the House, limn the same clad of individuals. _ The petition VMS r:ad, and ordered to he on the table, and to be printed. TOBACCO DUTIES. Mr. ESTCOURT presented a petition from the inhabitants of Devises, praying for a reduction of the ditty on tobacco. • Me. BENNET concurred moot fully in the wishes of the peti tioners. Indeee, no one could view the immense extent to which suatuggling was carried,. as it regarded the article of tobacco, with out feeling that the enormous duty to which it was subjected was we sale cause of such smuggling. How, indeed, could it be other wise, when the smuggler cod kl afford to sell tobacco at one-tenth the *ice of the regular trader? With such temptation, it was not to be wondered that desperate risks were undertaken, seeing that I igne successful achievement would compensate the speculating smuggler for mane losses. ein• JOHN NEWPORT said, that the smuggling to such an Satan of tobacto was manifestly the result of the heavy duties im-; pared so unwisely upon that article. Mr. BRIGHT observed, that the revenue had not only de. I messed since the increase of duty oil tobacco, but that diminution hid tyam in the ratio of the increase of population. It was quite certain that excessive smuggling was attributable in this article solely to the excessive duty. In a recent instance a vessel was . anti though there were on board the vessel only 75 cases o f &a l there were 1,000 bags of tobacco. lie could mention many tar hvoznces, all proving the utter impolicy of keeping up such estrratragant duties. REPEAL OF THE RESTRICTION ON SILK IM PORTED. r. EST GOIY RT prese:teca pe - titi;in from the n3nnufacturers of a silk sstabiishmect recently formed at Derires, against any altera tion In the existing restrictions on silk goods imported. ViCTUALLERS' LICENCES. . . Mr. I,VNDSAY presented a petitionfrorn the inhabitants of a town in Lancashire against the duty on victuallers• licences. AAIERICA. lir J. MACKINTOSH 1;1144,1 am desirous, Sir, of fixing a day Inc the discussion of a question of which I gave a general notice, on the diplomatic, or rather the want of diplomatic relations between state and South America. I would willingly bring forward ; very impnritint question, on Thursday sennight, it my lion. iend the Member for Aberdeen would postpone a motion, most, ;portant too, but not so pressing as mine, until some future day. Mr. HUItIE had no objection to meet the wishes of the (louse, ' he could not acromphsh that object better than by yielding to vest of his lion. and Learned Friend. It was truly said by ion. and Learned Friend that the motion fixed for that evens fa.; most important—it was for returns relating to the impress. of seamen, but he should bring it forward on a future day. WAYS AND MEANS. the motion of Mr. lIUSCISSON, the House then went in:4 a Committee of Wat's aril Means , the Order of the Day to that by any apprehensions of trouble end techniesl diecoltv. Put to 'effect having vreviously been read. Intent to the questke regarding dee sugoz; the Right Min. Geode- SUGAR DCTIES. man (31r. Husk's:u im) had attributed the ncrotie cniteuniption to Mr. HITSKISSON said, although he untlerstcod it to be the to- i the increasing wealth and increased comforts of the people, and tention of the Moo. Member fur Aberdeen to move for some rednes; added, that in process of time the demand would entirely absorb lion of the duty on sager, yet as he was utterly ignorant of the • the whole produce. If the premises in which the Right lion. Gent. grounds upon which such a motion was to be reconimcnded, the had proceeded were correct, it was impossible to deny his conclusion. Committee would excuse hint from anticipating the statement of the! He (Mr. E.) thought it would be inexpedient to press this question, Hon. Member for Aberdeen. Ile should content himself at present; if it would have the effect of doging the financial accounts. with moving the resolution in the towel way—" That it is the opi- I He was of opinion that the increased consumption of sugar might Men of this COMmittee :hat the duty continued by the Aet of the : fairly be attributed to other causes than those stated by the !tight last Parliament to his Majesty on sugar, should be further eon-' Hon. Gentleman. Ile was apprehensive that it was partly owing tioued." to less permanent and more accidental causes. He considered that The question having been put from the ('hair— amongst these the remission of taxation had produced its share of Mr. HUME said he felt very great reluctarce in pressing upon general benefit, and that was a cause which conic not be looked his Majesty's Ministers any measure of unauthorised or irexre- , forward to operate again for a long p&od he was afraid. lie was, dient economy, after the liberal policy they had displayed, and I however, disposed to believe that the increased consumption had the considerable reductions, which. of their own free grace, they bad I arisen in a fresh measure from the causes stated by the Right lion. vouchsafed to a gleeful people. Ile was convinced, however, that Gentleman. At least he thought it was clear that the V. India the measure which lie was about to propose. while, on the one hand, proprietors had made out a prima [uric case, that would entitle it tended to the relief of the subject, could not, in the slightest them to claim some plan of general and comprehensive relief. If degree, cripple the finances of, the country; he thought the state- i H the consumption increased according to the ratio stated by the ment they had just heard, as to the effect of excessive duty on Right on. Gentleman , or indeed any other, it was reasonable to tobacco, should convince the Committee that the reduction, which expect that the surplus produee would be reduced within a mode it was his intention to propose, could have no injurious effect upon irate and manageable amount; but on that presumption he did not the revenue arising from sugar. Ile had an account of the ditties think the Right lion. Gentleman warranted to call on the %Vest upon sugar, and the increase of duties on that article had, as in India Proprietors toawait patiently the operation ofnatural causes in the ease of tobacco, diminished its consumption ; not that he their favour. On the contrary, he conceived they had a tomng claim I thought the smuggling of sugar was carried on to any great extent ; on his Melody's Government for some measure of financial relief. indeed he rather thought it was of all articles of consumption that and in the expectation that that just claim would be satisfied, he I in which smuggling was least employed. He wished, however, at Ist 1,1 prefer that the duties on rum were suffered to remain in i the present moment, when great changes were effecting, to ewer- their present state. tain whether we ought not to look to the interest of the consumer, Mr. E. ELLICE said, that the proposed remission of the ditty as well as that of the manufacturer. How, for instance, was the on runt was too email ever to introduce that spirit into general con great portion of the public interested in a reduction of the duty on eumption, and ass he had not the same feeling as his Honourable silk ? With the bulk of ;he people this was really an uninteresting Friend (Mr. haring) with respect to the actual Sinking Fund, and useless reduction % Ile did not mean to say upon principles of though he certainly wits a decided friend to an efficient Sinking political economy, that the reduction was not politic, since it let in Fund, he should prefer the adoption °lsome more extensive plan of that other, and more important question, the removal of those per. relief. He had also some fears as to the permanency of the in , nicions prohibitor duties. It sae right to remove them- and he creased consumption of sugar. In the present distressed state of hoped his Majesty s Ministers would carry into complete effect their the \Vest India proprietors, he considered the! were entitled to liberal policy. The Connnittee would recollect that at the present such relief as the present surplus of the revenue would enable the I moment the West India proprietors were sunk in the tieepe,t die- country to afford them. He wished the Right Honourable Gentle ! tress; and he thought therefore that his Majesty's Ministtrs ought man to give a pledge, not for the proposal of any particular rues to consider, wether a portion of the duty could t of be reduced sure, but merely that the state of the West India interests would be without injury to the fi•itinees of the country, and certainly with taken into consideration. They sought not temporary relief, but !great advantage to the West India proprietors. Such a reduction, some general measure of policy that would remedy their present i lifI if effected, would serve to increase the consumption, and of course distresses and prevent similar evils in future. The substitution of to add to the revenue. He had several instances to shew that the sugar in the distilleries in preference to foreign barley imported duty on sugar was much beyond what that article could bear: a when by law the ports were opeoed;•'would tend materially to bent_ Committee of the House of Lords, to shew the increase of revenue, fit the planters without hurting oar agriculturists at home. He leant which they inferred the prosperous condition of the country , advise his Honourable Friend (Mr. Hume) to withdraw his mu had not rotted it convenient to take sugar into the account. In ! titan, as he was coneinced that it was the sincere wish of Govern • England it had greatly tliniinishe.d; in Ireland still more so ; and I meat to promote the interests of the West India body in every re , he knew not how, with such facts before them, they could hesitate Poeta, anst particularly to relieve them front the pressure under to do at once an act of grace and of pont-cal advantage. It was I which they now laboured. (lieu, hear.) He could not perfectly with that view that he should propose to reduce the duty on sugar • understand the statistical accounts of the Right Honourable Gentle from 275. to 20s. per hundred. Ile was aware that he might be man. They ought to be laid on the table without a motion, in or that relief had already been affinoled to the West India proprietors der that the whole subject might be brotight fully under in the reduction of the duty on ruin ; but what was that relief ?—A the view of the Committee. With respect to the comparative paltry reduction of 1:10. per gallon on rum ; and this granted too, consumption of sugar in 1791 and now, the Right Honour. • when by the Act of the last session, they had: is rael, excluded rum able Gentleman should not forget the large uddO ion to our from Ireland and Scotland. (Hear.) Therefore this reduction was population during that period, and the large addition also to the not in fact equivalent to the loss sustained by the West India pro. wealth of the country. 'lke increased consumption might be ace 'oleo" in the previous exclusion that shut tut the consumption of counted for by other reasons than that immense prosperity into rum from Irelard and Scotland. The lion. Member concluded by which the Right lion. Gentleman resolved the cause of every int_ ! proposing as an amendment that the proposed duty of 275. per bun- I prevenient iii the country. As to last year, the prices of provisions I duo( should be reduced to :'Us. I were so low that the poor man was able to indulge in many lux . .. . uries of which he feared the advance to be expected neat year would again deprive hon. It therefore appeared fair that the appre hended decrease of consumption from that cause should be met by a proportionate decrease of the duty on sugar. Ile felt that the 11 est Indians required all Ow assistance that could be given to them. The mere fact, that in 1791, when the price of sugar was the same as at present, the duty was only twelve orthirteen shillings per cwt., while now it was twenty-seven shillings, was sufficient to show how much they were entitled to a relief from taxation. Mr. CAM:RAFT confessed that this was a subject with which he was not conversant. With respect . to the proposal to admit Nagar into the distilleries in common with foreign barley, when the latter might be imported, he should not be suspected of giving any but a disinterested opinion in saying that it had his entire ap probation. Considering the peculiar pressure on the West India unwests, he would not object to the immediate admission of sugar. Hear, heat.) lie had come into the House with an opinion that 'dee supply of sugar far exceeded the demand ; but it appeared from I dee Right lion. Gentleman's statement that for the last three years the demand had exceeded the supply. (No, no.) He was sorry to find he was mistaken, but the Right Hon. Gentleman had been so understood in the part of the House where he (Mr. Calcraft) was sitting. He came down to the House to support the motion, but the reasou assigned by the Right Hon. Gentleman, founded on thegresti consumption under the existing duties, had led him toa different conclusion. As a member of Parliament, however, he felt that he was bound to guard the interests of the consumer as well as the West India planter (Heal, hear.) But the consumer would, he bdkwed. not receive sty benefit from so trifling a reduction of the duty. The increase of consumption proved that the duty did not preps on the consumer. If the supply of agar exceeded the demsed, the only way of operating permanently in raeour of the West India interests was by some mode like that pointed out by his Hon. Friend (Mr. Baring) to Increase the demand, until thew was an aid of the redundant supply. He begged his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) to withdraw his motion, and wished the Right Hon. Gent. to take it into Ins oonsiderfsfue whether sugar might not be !home. lately introduced into the tßstilleries, on which he conceived the West India Proprietors should found their best hope of relief. Mr. H ILTSKISSON rose to explain. Ile had stated that in 11114, at the period of the peace, there was a very considerable excess of I supply. Between that period and 11123, the further increase of supply over and above the excess of supply in 1814, amounted to 628,000 cwt. and during the same period the i..4.7,,5e of conounip., tion over and above the consumption of 1814, was 921,000 cwt. The cons equence was, that the 'ncreased supply over and above' the previous average excess was less by the relative excess of consumption than in 1814. Suppose the general statement stood thus Cwt. In 11114, the total supply might be estimated at In 1823, at Mr. BARING perfectly concurred with the lion. Member for Aberdeen, that it was the duty of a wise Government to assist any interess in the country suffering under severe and peculiar depres don. Whether the agriculturist was the sufferer, the West India pruprieter, or the East India merchant, it was unquestionably the duty, and, indeed, generally the interest of Government to grant all possible relief to the suffering interest ; and if be really thought that the relief now proposed, namely the reduction of the duty on sugar, would prove beneficial to the West India proprieter, he should vote for the amendment. Undoubtedly when such a anion as this was made, he, who did not view the sinking fund= the same eyes as his Hon. Friend, the Member for Aberdeen, was bound to look at the state of the finances of the country, to see' whether the country could seare from its income the proposed re duction of duty. Now, though he was of opinion that the country' could not spare it, yet if he could persuade himself that subteen-, tial advantages would arise to the West India proprietor from the : duetion, he should assist the preprietor. The Ilon. Member seemed to think that the public were Interested in the reduction of this duty. Was there a single petition from the public to support that opinion? What were the public to gain by it ? An abatement of id. or Id. per pound in the price of sugar. There was, indeed, ere circum stance connected with this subject, to which he was most dent ous of drawing the attention of country gentlemen—the present price of barley. In a few weeks, in all probability, the ha:rased price of barley would have the effect of opening the ports for itsintro doction ; and the consequences of such an importation were not to be calculated. He would, therefore, propose to the feeling, as well as the policy of country gentlemen, to allow distillation from sugar, and tints assist on the one hand the West India proprietors, and exclude the introduction of foreign barley. TI is would be a mea sure both gracious and politic, and one which he strenuously re commended to their serious consideration. In the course of two months the chief business of distillation for the year *mild hate terminated, and the quantity of sugar employed in thismoeess would prevent the opening of the ports to barley. The H4111011,- able Member said, in conclusion, that he should oppose the amend ment of his Honourable Friend, the Member for Aberdeen. Mr. HUSK IeSON was exceedingly glad that his Honourable Friend, the Member for Taunton, had stated his opinion of the amendment pmpcsed by the Honourable Member for Aberdeen. The Honourable Member for Aberdeen had grounded his observa nces on a reference to the duty on tobacco, to which some allusion had been made in the early part of the night. Now, if he correctly comprehended the object and tendency of these ob servations, they were intended to chew that the amount of duty on tobacco led to considerable smuggling. NV hether this was a correct conclusion or not, he did not then think it necessary to inquire. But the Honourable Member for Aberdeen had seriously asserted that in respect to sugar there was no such smuggling, so that his objection did sot apply. He had been much surprised to hear the Hoer Membeemsert, that since the year 1814 there had been no increase in the consumption of sugar. On the contrary, there was no one article which had so much increased. The average consumption for the three years ending on the sth January, 1817, was 2,214,000 cut.; from Sib January, 1819, to sth January, 1822, it was 2,762,000 cwt., being an increase on the averages of the latter of ' these two periods of 540,000 cwt., bring at the rate of 20 per cent. From official documents, which would soon be laid before the House, it appeared that in the last year the consumption was 3,130,1100 cwt. makingan increase of 40 per cent. This was a ebodusive pr oof of the great and rapid progress of consumption. As to Ireland, to which the Hon. Member had alluded, there were many circumstances which prevented a similar increase. The Leaving a balance of comparative increase of consump people were not in a mate of ease and comfort; they were in want tints of - - - 292,000 of employment and in penury. But could any Gentleman sup. In this manner tl.e increase of consumption had overtaken the in. , pose that a diminution of a halfpenny in the pound would crease of supply. If the ratio of increasing consumption was eon.: give any great increase to the consumption of as article, if tinued for two or three years, there would be no surplus of supply. nut of the tiro necessity. at lent the first luxury of the poorer As to the production of the accounts on which he had grounded this classes? lie would now show the state of the supply, as statement, he could assure the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Ellice) compared with the consumption since the peace. The Right that them was no single figure in his statement that was not before Honourable Gentleman entered into a long detail of figures, the House. it had been his duty to calculate the progress which I to shew that since the year bill there had been an increase of he had stated that evening. If there was any part of the founda.l ' eonsunmeon, growing on the increase of the suppl If this had don of his calculations not before the House. it would be presented wreason hitherto been the ca, there was no why it should not coo- in a few days with the annual accounts, when every Honourable nein. We were nor, p perhaps , far from the period when the aup. Gentleman would be able to satisfy himself as to the correctness of 1 ply would not exceed the consumption, or at least in a very alight the ratio he had stated, viz. 20 per cent. annually on the whole degree only. It was satisfaetory to know that the consumption of period, but for the last year, considered by itself, 40 per c e nt. I n I ' lest year, na compared with former years, was the largest ever the present state of the distilleries, at this advanced period of the I ' known. Those persons who were coovteasnt with the state of the 'season, he was afraid that the immediate introduction of sugar I ' West India colonies, were of opinion that there was no likelihood would be attended with no benefit to the West India proprietors. : of any increase in the annual produce, but, on the contrary, rather As to the question that liberty ought to be given to the distillers to 1 a tendency to a decrease. As to the new colonies, in cons.- use sugar, when the porta were opened for the importation of , quence of there being no possibility of importing any more foreign barley, he could nee no objection to the proposition. (Hear, ! slang, there was not a chance of any . great increase. He trusted hear, hear.) When we admitted the necessity of drawing a supply that he had now made out a suffi cient ease, as far **regarded of barley froth foreign nations, ibex could certainly be no objec the question of consumption and the pressure of taxation _ don to admit another article, the growth of our own dominions, in ' The tax on sugar was by no means the one which eallat roost or. competition with it. (Hear, hear.) The average, however, could gently for relief. It would not be shown that any other article not be taken till the )sth of May. Could any substantial relief be called for it so feebly. This proved the great augmentation of then given to the West India Proprietors'' As a proposed pert of i the case, comfort, and prosperity of the people of England ; a general arrangement for their relief he would promise to bestow foe, if they were not so, there would not be such an increase his closest attention to it, and ,he had no doubt he could promise ' fo the use of an article which was the link between luxuries and also that his Right lion. Friendrwoirld act in a similar manner. necessaries. Indeed, since the year I7ed, the quantity of sugar Mr. CAM:HM.7 said, the way to make the statement Intel- I ' consumed in England and Ireland was increased double ; and ligible would be to contrast the supply and consumption for the i at this moment the quantity consumed in this kingdom was last three !ear*. equal to that consumed by three times the same population in Mr. J. BEN ETT was favourable to the admission of sugar into ! the rest of the world. With revert to the substitution of sugar the distilleries in competition with forei g n barley. He doubted I fur bark, in the distilleries, he was ready to admit the principle that the country was by any means in that state of prosperity in I of the Honour:4de Member for Tatman; but he thought which it was represented by the Right Hon. Gentleman. Ile it ought to be le ft entirely to the distillers. Perhaps it was less begged to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman a question which had expedient at the present moment, as there were only sax weeks left been suggested to him, namely, whether, as the House was about to Wive the distillers would begin to work, and there would scarcely regulate the duty on rum, the British distillers would be at liberty ; be time enough to provide for necessary changes of sugar for bar. to convert rum into gin ? If they were, distillation front con 'I ley. lie had sonic experience on this question, and knew that it would be wholly stopped. He put this question because his atten- ! was environed win difficulties. Besides, the measure would be a Linn had been called to the subject by a letter from a very lineal- I strong one, now that the ports were shut against the importation of gent constituent. I barley. He thought that heelistel stated enough to convince the Mr. HUSK ISSON supposed the Hon. Gentleman was aware ftiends of the West India interests that those interests were about that the distiller and rectifier were different persons. (Hear, hear.) to experience a great amelioration by the mereeee of consumption, He felt that the question propounited to him was attended with great and the effects of other causes which had relieved other interests difficulties. If the British rectlfiemposseseed the liberty objected from similar distress. to by the lion. Gentleman. he( Mr. Ilueltimion) felt that it would; Mr. C. It. ELLIS said, that although the West India interest' be slesirable to reduce the surplus stock of rum now on hand. Arould receive with gratitude every prnpositior, which went to relieve Mr. BEN ETT observed that it appeared then that the power 1 their distresses, yet be was afraid the proposition of the Hon. Merv- to convert gin into rum did not aim. (A laugh.) her for Aberdeen, in spite of its plausible appearance, was not Mr. BRIGHT agreed that the proposal to allow theintroluction I likely to be of any great service. The Chancellor of the Excite- of saga? into distilleries wa. of great importance 0 the West India quer had already conceded a redaction in the duties on rum, and interests. The situation of those merchants should be fully entered gad alio altered the mode of collecting that duty, so as to poultice into, for they were deserving the best consideration of the Hoene. a benefit nearly equal to the teduetion. The question then was., Now with respect to the duties' on beer, he agreed with several of whether the proposition of the lion. Member was such as wafer,' d the gentlemen who preceded him, that the mode of collecting the greater advantages than the reduction of the Chancellor of the Es- duties was, if possible, more objectionable than their amount. For chequer. Ile had studied the question pretty deeply, and was con- himself he did not anticipate any speedy improvement in the situ-' vincel that the balanceof advantages would not be in favour of the mein of the West India planters, who had, certainly, a right to Ilon. Gentleman's proposition. It might be asked, why not try complain in consequence of the changes made iu th e Irish and both schemes ?—reduce the tax on sugar as well as on rum. To this :Scotch Distillery !ems. They should all be on the mine footing. he would reply, that the claim of any interest to relief wee not to be It has been said that there was no consumption of rum in Ireland; tried by the extent of its own distress, but by a comparison with the then Ireland would net suffer by placing the West India rem ! situation of other Messes. The Fame objemion was not to be made to rower in the same situation with her. In Scotland, however, the proposition of the Hon. Member for Taunton with respect he knew that rum had been consumed in large quantitime but in to the use of sugar in distilleries. If the thing could be managed consequence of the increased duties dad diminished. In short. the so as not to injure the agricultural Interest, he should be in its West India rum-grower should not be excluded from the Irish and I • favour. Ile was aware that the subject involved some technical Scotch market, be the consumption little or be it niuch. On refer. difficulties. He had sat upon a Committee on the subject, and was ; ring to the report of a Committee made on the subject in 1807. aware of the nature of those difficulties ; but he knew that these 'he found that the comomption of nun had only been decreased difficulties always gave way when it was ascertained that Govern- . by the cheapness of whiskey ; and he was sum, if the prim of rum mcnt was serious in its resolution to carry the manure into effect. and whiskey were nearly the mime, that the consumption of rum • Ile hoped that the Right lion. Gentleman would not be prevented would be greatly augmented. The report were to state that Mr:tisb - 3,1410,000 - 3,800,000 Leaving a comparative cackles of supply of . Zioo,Boo more now than in 1814. Suppose that in 1814 the consumption was 2.580,000 cwt., the gtoss excess of supply then would be 1,1100,000 cwt. Suppose that now the consumption amounted to 3,100,000 cwt., the excess of supply would be duninished, as com pared with 1814. Cwt. The increased consumption since 1814 was The increased supply, including thst from the new islands, was 921,000 929,000 spirits posed off, (considerable langhlie,) slid that etten was the favourite liquor, he suppose foe outs pod -natural reason. At I all events one thing was. abviusuilit claar, that rum should not be fu rther thrown out of cono H mption. e thought the people of Ireland—the poorer people ha meant—should be tt opted by its cheapness to use sugar, and give them some stronger desire than they now seemed to feel for the indulgence of a few luxuries. Mr. F. LEWIS observed that the reports just alluded to by the lion. Member, mentioned that Genera was the favourite liquor in Scotland at the period to which he Minded. Ile thought that the West India interest need not be in the Last alarmed at the change which was wade in the Irish and Scotch Distillery Laws, because the consumption of sum in Scotland was very little, and in Ireland still less. Formerly the only duty on spirits in Ireland was 3s. lid. a gallon, but that was so often evaded that he verily believed sot more than 29.8 d. was received on the aggregate consumption. The duty was now fixed at Ihe low rate, and he conceived it would produce more to the revenue, than it did when it was notnim-lly at live shillings and sixpence. The West India interest had no chum whatever for indemnification on that branch of the question. Their object seemed to be to shift ttie pressure--to change the shoulders who were to hear it; but he asked why should the loss of duty on sugar be made up by a charge on the barley grower? The duty on rum was now brought to a level with that on British spirits. (No, no, co.) Well, perhaps he might mistake as to the exact scale of both ; but in the principle lie was right, the ! principle being to ditoiAsh the duty on rum so as to allow its cont . petition with British spirits. If, again, sugar were admitted on cheaper terms when British spirits were high, he contended that the English barley grower would he a double sufferer. If the harvest were precarious, the foreign barley grower would come into the market, and what etween him and the sugar grower, the Eng lish fanner would be subject to a double drawback. In his (Mr. Lewis's) view, the much wiser plan would be to take off duty to a ; certain degree on every thing, and spread the benefit over the whole surface of the community. Mr. H. SUMNER said that after what he had heard he must; decidedly oppose the reduction of the duty on sugar (us we under-, stood); and he wished the Hon. Member for Aberdeen would withdraw his amendment. When the agricultural interest was sufferiqg they . were supported by the West India interest, and he had no objection, if it could be safely done, to assist them in re turn. Rut then he was not disposed to let the sugar grower, as well as the foreign corn grower, at once cotnpew with the British barley grower. At the same time he was free to say that the %Vest India planters were entitled to every protection. Mr. ROBERTSON did not consider that the reduction of the ditty on ruin would prove advantageous to the West India planter. He was fully impre,sed with this conviction, and he should at present content himself with the simple expression cf that opinion. 111 r. MANNINO said (as we understood him, for he spoke in a feeble under tone) that the reduction of the duty on sugar would not interfere with the interests of the English barley grower. . Mr. PLUM ER supported the reduction of the tax on sugar. Sir ISAAC cortls.—l think the concessions of the Minister have been very favourable to the %Vest India interest, and I shall vote for the continuance of the tax on sugar. Mr. WHIT3IOIIE said it was not his intention to follow up his motion of last session upon the Corn Laws (we believe) at the pre sent. Upon the subject now before the Committee, he thought the proposed reduction on sugar would not be attended with the expected benefits. Mr. 111'3IE in reply observed, that the question he put to the Committee was, that the consumption or sugar by no means ; equalled the expectatiors entertained in 1822. Ile held in his hand a paper which shewed that fact, and expressly denied the statement of the Right lion. Gentleman. The pri:e of sugar was 73 shillings! • hundred at the period alluded to, and in 1823 it was 335. and the consumption, in place of being doubled, as it ought tube, was leas than in the former period. The decrease of price caused an increased consumption, but not a consumption equal to what was expecteaL He thought himself fully justified in calling for the de crease cf the duty on sugar. The reduction would be little less to the revenue, and of great advantage to the West India Planters. If, however, they thought otherwise, he called for the reduction on behalf of the people of England. On the part of the public, he thought this reduction should take place ; but opposed as he was by Gentlemen and the West India interest, he had little expectation of carrying his amendment. Under these circumstances, he would not press the House to a division, and would, with their leave, withdraw his amendment. 31r. C. GRANT said a few wcrds ; but from the buzz which prevailed, we could not hear a single sentence of what the Bon. Member said. Mr. GORDON thought there was some secret understanding between the Government and the West India body, which should be awed, and that was, as to the renewal of a Bill in which the in terests of the refiners here woul,; be considerably affected. The West India planters already had a bounty of three shillings; for, though the duty was nominally 30s. only Vs. were paid. He could not see why gentlemen coveted this bounty when they so liberally praised the doing away bounties on heir.ps, Irish linen, and other matters. Such inconsistency was a little singular, to say the least of it. The Amendment was then withdrawn. The House resumed, and lifr. Brogden brought up the Report, which was ordered to be *mired tomorrow. USURY LAWS. _ Mr. W. WYNN, in the iiietteeOtlifrTSergeant Onslow, Tofu poned the further consideration of the Usury Laws Repeal Bill till Slay next. FRENCH TROOPS IN SPAIN. . _ . Sir J. RUSliillpostponeditia motion on the evacuation oldie French troops out of Spain till Thursday next, the Ilth inst. CUSTOMS ACTS. On the motion of Dlr. iiiiskiiisiks, the House resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House on the Customs Acts. financial regulations ? lie was of opinion, that if there were ey e a time fur a complete change of that system which was Nana to impede and obstruct our prosperity, it was at t. H. might be permitted to a ffi rm, that now, if ever, Lreiteil i ' ne was collie for givii.g relief, nut only from our prevent but our future embarratainents—that now, if ever, the chance was given us or sowing the send of new prosperity, interest, and wealth ; and i t was lawful for us to expect that we would reap all the advantages of a full and n.ature harvest. These adeanN,:es we should attend to time of peace, and if at a future period the country was meta. tunately called to war, that prosperity would enable her to a m with EAU the burdiens imposed upon her by the d.fficulties of her situation. Taking this view of the question, and firmly impa ne l with the test important consequence* that were likely to moult, b e would ask the Parliament if they meant to continue or alter the present system of law, as it stated the silk and woollen redo i'his discussion, it was unnecessary the him to say, was most ably opened upon a former occasion by his Right Honourable Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. For his pan, lie owned he was satisfied of the disadvantages under which dame trades laboured by the laws as they existed at present, and he was confirmed in his opinion upon the sub.ect, not only by stet fell front the Metnbees for Cheshire and Taunton, but also by wha, bail been Ruggeated by the toasters and labia.. ers engaged in the silk trade 'I ite object of these petitioners was relief. lie had looked into the petition, and found the petitioners wets not quite satisfied with the l awn it ;fle et . ed the trade. lie would intrude upon the patinae of the House by readings few passages from this petition;—it went to state, that the trade in silk was depressed below its level, by the v.-saute of re gulations most &trinomial to its interests and prosperity; that if its regulations were conducive to its interests, it would receive an secession of prosperity, and by judicious management the silk trade of Great Britain would not be surpassed by any foreign trade, what. ever, and would meet triumphantly with any competition. This was a part of the petition which went to &hew the dinatisfactie e of the petitioners. \Filen it was attempted to account for the prospe. pity of the cotton trade, it was imid this was the staple trade of tbe country, whilst the silk ens a foreign one; and therefore a duty upon the raw material of the latter was pressed for. The time, therefore, was now coons to chew the great benefit derived to the country front the system hitherto adopted, of laying a duty upon the raw material imported; and how it was preferable to the system of laying our own markets open. It could be "hewed by those who supported this genend argument, that when a trade was fettered, and a duty laid on the importation of the foreign raw material, and by these means the application of capital to this branch of trade was impeded—when by this system the price of labour was raised, the trade than circumstanced could neither flaunah nor prosper, or come with any thing like the chance of success to a fair competitioa. Against this he imagined no general argument could be advanced. Another argument used by the lion. Member for Taunton was, that die trade in silk was not a native trade—that this manufacture was like fruit ;it grew or could mow only in certain places. From this argument be dissented. He averred that the silk trade, if the re strictions sod monopolies were removed, would grow and extend itself, not only to Spitalfields, but it would flourish, and spread, and expand itself through every part of England. lie would appeal to the lion. Gentleman, and ask him if Taunton were not a remarkable manufactory for silk ? Ile would of course ad. nth it wax ; but thirty or forty years since it was equally remarkable for its cotton inumfactories. lie did not know thirty or forty years since who was the representative for Taunton; he was an individual like the present, eminent for sound ancl7tl a s P s manlike views; he might be a great merchant and a distinguished member of the mercantile and commercial interests: and suppose I measures were taken for the repeal of certain duties and taxes which affected the property of the cotton trade as it then stood--if new regulations were to be formed noldela would impose but few duties upon it ; if those regulations were to be removed which im. posed restrictions and monopoly—if the trade were by this tneans sof. tered to diffuse itself with fre ed om, what would not the Member for Taunton of that day have eaclainid ? Would helmet Ray to the Minis.. ter, what measures are you taking ? You are repaling taxes, the repeal of which will destroy our woollen trade—you are acting in a manner injurious to the staple of the country. India give rngland the raw material of cotton in the greatest abundance: It is therefore easy for you to carry on the cotton trade, to col. tivate this manufacture, where there is so little labour and much raw material. You are bound to protect us who have so much more labour than is required in the manufactuee of count. Just so the Member for Taunton is now making objections re' the destruction of what he calls the staple. The inhabitants of l'auntoin at the time to which he alluded, would petition teethe exclusive support and monopoly of woollen. They would say this staple would be ruined ; that th e consum p t i on o f flannel petucoats would be destroyed: that worsted hose would no longer be wan: they would go the length o f Raying, that the Legislature accorded with their view. inasmuch as there was a law to compel the dead to be shrouded in woollen. What, he would ask, was the consequence or those measures, which it was feared would go to the ruin of the staple? When it was no longer subject to those institutions ad restraints under which it was pretended the silk trade prospered and flourished, when the monopolies and exclusions under which it l a bo ure d were taken off, , it made a most surprising progress to prosperity ins short period, and in his opinion, every a rti c l e o f silk would ad. ranee in the same proportion as that of cotton, if the test/ham were in like manner removed. He would state the way In which the two manufactures, silk and cotton, had advanced in a gins time ; he would go back to an interval of 40 years. In the yer 1703, the amount of woollen exported was not more than 330,101. In the year 17133, two yens after, when we were relieved from the difficulties of war, the exportation of woollens did not exceed 064,0001. At present the export was about four millions, Wee am increase compared with the export, at the period alluded to, in the proportion of five to one; within the same time the exponaueo of cotton had risen to the amount of twenty-seven million thee" hundred and seventy thousand pounds, being an increase an more than forty times, and the export of woollen Cuing it would admit in round numbers six millions, the export of est.. ton was greater than it in the proportion of five to one. (Loud cheers.) These advantages were gained by suffering capital to flow in its own direct channel, and by measures prone. ing a free trade. He would admit, in the statement which he nudes and he was bound in fairness to admit it, that the value of the ma nufactures to which he alluded was official, mid higher than the real ; but front the best information be could acquire upon Mesa.. ject, the real value of the cotton manufactured in the kingdom its foreign and home consumption, amounted to thirty-two minimise this he believed to be the real, and not the official value. (Hear s hear.) And he would ask if, after this increase of manufacture, unparalleled in the history of the world, those little and useless taxes would be suffered to remain upon the raw material? He would not enter into details upon the subject ; but of the thirty. two millioas of which he had spoken, not more than five mil lions went to the purchase of the raw material and the intei. est of capital ; the remaining twenty-six or twenty.sevez minims were produced by the capital and the industry and labour of the parties employed in the trade, and he reverted boldly to the propo sition which he mentioned be :fore, that it was scarcely possible to. give relief to any particular branch of a manufacture without ex tending that relief to others ; and in his opir.ion, if it were not for the success, and vigour and wealth of the cotton trade, it would he utterly impossilne for this country to continue the war of twenty years, in which we were engaged, or at any rate to survive the gigantic exertions which we were compelled to make, and the sums of money expended in the country by the twelve hundred thousand persons employed in the trade, and the money required fur their pay, for thew various wants and consumption, were of more utility and relief to other interests, and amongst the agricultural, thsa could be forced upon them by any artificial measures whatever. It was upon the increase of individual wealth and prospetity he de. pended for the gradual relief of burthene, and not from tat:Nei. ment of any artificial regulations whatever; it was not upon nub unnatural enactment+ he depended, it was upon individual ris. sources, upon the activity and industry of the manufacturing ?o pulence and to the improvements which took place, and are take/ place d aily in the use and inventions of machinery. There was be knew an objection to the use of machinery. as it dinsinithol those works which were the result of manna labour. This objection was now done away, and it was converted into a benefit, as the machinery was increased, and consequently a greaternamr ber of hands was employed. Whilst the exclusive restrictions sad protections were kept up on silk, it would, in his opinion, bosh ways inferior. There was, in consequence of the system, no gown petition ; it was competition that gave lite and real to ingenuity ; it gave perseverance and invention ; it was proved by es. penence, that error was removed by competition alone. As s proof of his assertion, it was in this silk trade alone we wean' bar behind. The security given to this trade by our eateietions, chilled and benumbed all efforts: there ens no neeneeity for the ex ercise of genius, as all parties employed in the trade were are of a market ; for which reason it was evident to all thanes that the Mr. IlUaltIsSON then pn ...ceded to say, that although his Right Honourable Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer had, with a perspicuity peculiarly his own, stated his views and the views of government on the general finances of the country, on the intended repeal of duties, and amongst them, of those in silk; yet he (Mr. Huskisson) finding there were objections to that plan, both in this House and out of it—that different opinions prevailed, with reference to the important subject connected with the system of remitting duties; considering these circumstances, he hoped, though he might not be able to follow the example ofhisßight on. Friend, that he would at all et ents receive the indulgence of the Committee (hear), while he stated the general views of government on the sub ject. To the general plan of finance already laid before the House and the public, there seemed to be two classes of objectors : one was of opinion the remission should be in direct taxes, as was the case last year ; and the other were those who wished the laws regulating the trade in silk still to remain. With respect to the first class, the course pursued by the Government was such as was thought to be most conducive to the comfort and ease of the various and wide spread interests of the country. 'When the finances of the country enable the Government to remit any portion of the taxes, they look ed first to the bumbler classes, and, with a view to benefit them, some of the eeitties were taken offaalt, malt, leather, and, though last not least in operation and effect, the lottery. (Hear, hear.) Seven millions of taxes had been already remitted, with a view to relieve the poorer and middle classes ; but it was asked, both here and elsewhere, why not let any further remission you can make, be continued in the direct taxes ; as, to do so, would at once prove sure, easy, and certainly more popular? The latter he believed, the former he much doubted. :den certainly did not like to see the face of the tax-gatherer, if they could help it ; but the Govern ment, having so long looked to those classes he had mentioned, were now bound also to look and see if they were not to encourage the industry of the country, by the repeal of such a duty as that upon silk. Acting as they had done, upon a new and liberal commercial policy, the duties upon inch a branch of menufactsre as that of silk deserved every consideration. The objections made by these two classes of persons were worthy of attention, and possessed weight: but lie was free to confess the broad view he took of the subject was by every means in his power to form some financial and commercial regulations which would have the effect of combining at once protection and relief, which would not only be advantageous to our present interest hut mature a harvest of prosperity for the future. When the House took into its consideration the vast and mighty changes that were daily taking place, as to the restrictions imposed upon commerce, when it con. signed the spirit that was acting at present, and the extent to which it MU carried, he was sure there was not a man iu the country who would not declare that we ought nut to lose the opportunity which presented itself to us, if our real and sincere object were to advance the prosperity of our country, and to give her an equal share of those markets now open to us. It was true the struggle for independence still existed to some extent between the provinces of South America and Spain ; that struggle might continue logger; but it was fair to conclude that these provinces would never return, as far as their commercial Ilependence was concerned, to the same state as before. When the wide field open ed* by this state of things was considered—when it was taken into statesman-like view, when the indefinite extent of these circum stances was reflected upon, he trusted he would not be deemed er roneous in the supposition, that restrictions of monopoly and exclu sion were not thou which were likely to add to the wealth and pros perity of the country. It was reasonable to suppose that the tame advantage would be derived by an extensive trade with the South American Provinces as there was spread over the extensive po pulation of the l'nited States ; and his decided opinion was, that any system was injurious to the prosperity and interests of the country, which prevented bar from coming to as extensive markets as the people of every other country. It was a prir iple generally moser.ted to; as was the admission of all manufacturers interested or concerned in trade, that there were certain principles, which, when acted upon, impede the progress and prevent the advance of commerce, by obstructing a fair competition, and in contbrmity to which laws and regulations are passed which endeavoured to force capital to certain branches of trade, by means of prohibitions. These principles must of necessity be obstacles to free trade, by laying heavy duties on the raw material, or by drawbacks upon the expoaation. It was admitted that these measures were equally injurious to the interests of a free trade ; and lie would venture to assert that it was well worth the contemplation of his Majesty's Government. Great benefits would be generally conferred upon the country by making the changes to which lie was alluding ; and considering die question in this point of view, he would appeal to the House--he would ask them, if, for the sake of the small sur plus revenue whith they had in hands—if, for the sake of the trifling reduction of tar,es which could be effected, it would be con sistent with the prudence of Parliament—whether it would be worth their while. to forego the chances of roost important results to the country in eeneral, and put them in cotnpar'son with the re duction of a few inconvenient taxes? It was observed by the lion. member for Taunton*, that the excess of our revenue was but small, and small as it was, there was nothing about it which could lead to the expectations of its permanence—that ;t was caused by the reduction of taxes to the amount only of 500001. annually— that he took into the consideration the savings of four tears, and found them to be but two millions, and this eating depended merely 1 upon casual receipts. He would ask the Honourable Member if it would add to our interest to extend the diminution of taxation, ntl lose the benefit which we may derive frutu gin present manufacture of silk was interior in this country, not only in the w.irk of the loom, but or warping and in dying the silk; in all these respects we were far behind, and if the same systems were applied to the cotton manufactory, he made no doubt it would be as much interior to it as it was junior to it ie. Its intro duction into the country. It was therefore his decided opinion_ sad that of the friends with whom he acted, that the repeal of these restrictions would be the only chance to the manufacturers of this country of coming to a fair competition, and giving the opportunity of using the industry which was open to them. ile wield en deavour to look at this question in a statesman-like manota, and would e.ideavour to prevail upon the Parliament to rapport him in the repeal of those restrictions, not for the reasons alone which he had mentioned, but for others he would state. The svatem of which he complainel was not productive of injury and inifiaventa ence to the silk trade alone ; it was also the occasion and source of new laws. What, lie would ask, would be thought of that system which was protected by laws, one of which enabled any person. who would be ruffian enough to avail himself of it, to snatch an article of silk from an individual in the streets, assuming it to be foreign. Another law authorized the Custom-house other to enter the house of any private person, and look ibr any 'nick In sill:, whether of furniture or otherwise, and this in a rnannettotally un congenial with the spirit of English law : and all these efforts were unavailing, the law was evaded ; the higher daises always pa messed the articles ; for these violations of the law the higher classes were always responsible ; but if there restnetincs were taken off, these evils would not again be oomplained of It was with regard to silk, as it was with regard to game; if there were no game laws there would he no poachers. In both cases the higher classes possessed, and ever would possess the articles forbidden, and were responsible for the evils arising from the treach of the laws. Ile was unlearned in the character of the laws which lie censured, but he believed, by making application to the Court of Exchequer, any might procure a writ of assistance., and under this au ty he might search the house of an individual under pretence of looking for smuggled silks, and he might enter the house as if it were a ga ming -house and illegal practices were carried on there. There was another part of the argument to which he wished to allude. Ile spoke of - the petition in which the parties prayed for th e maintenance of the restrictions; they were not insensible, the, were not blind to their own Interest; they gave up tkg restric tions; they only required that thedutleashouldbe kept op,A,lssgb he ~at th tititstm3 :'rench 1 from 13 duty maw ware 01 allord wan a difference of 11 the petitioners princii cent. Here, therefor came from America they went thence to wodve, ur be conscie be given. Ile would] victual said he went tw inspecting the manufi a manufacturer, and surance of 20 per cen and he admitted that improperly introduced trade, ler no sooner country than it was ii topks west taken of They were not only to Brighton (hear, he glens they were sold could be otherwise p the effects of the prof the country by an ins not injure the trade, sold, of course, at plain proof that the foreigner as to ens not be difficult, by given, and the arrange fish artisan, not only to beat him out of t tore : this would be from mere perversion the prevailing mode tt was procured by a vin answer of Mr. Hale state, that he had se that day : in that to *hackles of the Spitalt they had no fear of a when they would elm factures. He would Chancellor of the Exi in learning the details any proposition on the consequence they wen tardiness on the other they would not collie I wait for results, and arrangements, he was enter Into a successful out of the market. he heard abroad, nam all. the beat judges M which he felt for the with him, and it v with all the respeci persons on the pram could not agree to Judges of their own He admitted that were favourable to I checked general in& persons who looked ui as injurious to their co who bought on comp ism material and nee a reduction in the pric the course of all glee it wag the business ol guard them as much s persons out of the Hu citing those feelings tlwse persons who was benefits of the mop neat dange: ; they f become fashionable servant-maids were a arising from the col tresses. (Laughter.) the case, he felt justiti Anent to support the iv (Hear, heir.) He Iss absence of the Chance the incdnvenience whi would hold back, and reduction would audit stagnation of the mane As to the mode of pane by . which the silk tea might per ha ps prevail. ter to proceed by grade bell, but the effect woe Willed the measure sl Wary. It was therefor else Stli of July, 1823 este operation. The' of duties, from the am petaled for their daily of trade might be than of this speedy arrange neeerupany the alter abjection satisfactorily *an to diminish it. propose to the Comm tent have stocks of ail aright be permitted to the respective war the duty which they h to them—and that tl atg the reduced dt be trusted, wo }ended non-ensploym If such non-employe the Pith of March. lion of this regulation MI towards those ergs itirmilas for them to .cos sanguine enough Mk. The shop of eve inventory had of the possession ; that woul the next point, monel , trade of this countrr i fled been determined duty, as proposed by t take place until ..lu Hey that this duty sho nwesnres something who were to be affee not regret (whatever time, satisfied if tit, ores. It would, th be admissible for tl on hand, to receive previously paid, and the continuance of the years longer would, lu tore to encounter the e by the proposed red article,. He had the . which he intended to conformable to the I . formed on the subject lieved, were sometiros long-beers eonvermet connected with cbanl sobs so much of an et from the view that • feed a practical sys wet consistent with derressetie interests. 1 any ether department comparative depressio tributable to the ado() enraged when the policy were acted ups n ations, which ascot susi which was invari advantages to such i Ia this, as in ever thins whom the meat thee should be regard erinterests of tl n and most i he Right Hon. Gen restitutions : Thatll; the opi she 24th of 31nrch 18 several sorts of silk, mina; and also, that I Manufactured silk shm duties shall be paid in " Oa silk, from am huska, or wa not cl ed, 7s. Rd. manufactum 1214 for every cwt. it Xr. BARING had of the 'Right Hon. (le • soulf well ewpget ' lll.llll lion him a gen could not say what ws y, as , nuiwithw muds that Frene p r emium of from an d w ould eni coti n c l adn protecting the ma when the real star, • the protection aif to the minutes of from the petition I manner in shut be would 'hew relligent no doubt an individual not I to relieve the work in and acquaintan apected individual the market fur the cent. There was who time to Euro asked what their of. France and Em petition between th some there was a I