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Vl' i f • I ahonld bear in mind these paramount principles which Kaye England this high pre-eminence, and apply them to the subject its cuswideration, which went to take awn," every part of that gre.t Con stitution which our ance sto r ,' so highly prized, (Hear, /tear.)—We might, therefore, to toter iota the discussion with a full sense of the s 'civil and -soleness oblsgastionsm-whiels-we are bound to decide —we arc not now deciding ois is single case, the bearing, of which have hero laid open to us, but GO the late of 4n unknown number of complaitits, from the particulars of which we are shut out. We ire therefore, in the dark called upon to decide against complainants, svl we would not heir, and in bOCTI a is. toiler ere ore called .Mrs at note to shot the doors of our Cossets of Jusrs,ce stgaasst all the aegrieeed parties, and - -to set out with declaring to then) shit for ever they life debarred from -re stmts.—( flear.)-1 state 'this as a s licittiontatsve which ought to mike it iut , „erative upon us to enter Soto the coissidcrattuts with the greateit eautiass and the tit.nost anxiety. " The prevent Bill," though it had a number of different objects. yet 'rosy be divided into three ! arts. The first consisted of the Itidemitity to Members ageing the cosier -pesters of their acts during the period of the I•*.e alarming state of the-comory (is the Itt•porle v' the Lords and Commons' Commit tees slescrifoal it ) The second part war the in drosisity to Magistrates for the acts committed by them kis the suppression of bison-retool', or its guarding against violence. The third was fur the stotectetto of indsveltinls who gave information utmost the comae-gm-hers that alight errs. to them from a dust bourn of their mon.* and statements.— These .were the three HOMO objects of the MIL " As to the first, there are a great number of Gen thrown who bursts totally mistaken as to the fact.— One Gentleman (11r. Marryin), and annthrr (Mrs Protherael, had said. that alien the Legislature gave these 'tossers to Ministers'. they were'bound to protect then. So the exercise of them. There never oas a greater fallacy thin this—there could he sew greater igstorstice—(ass iseisig the word ignorisnee, slisclaiin personal ofirsire)—of the real state of the matter. This Bill of Indemnity was taut necessary for Alioisters ; the Suspension Act was their iii d-unsity for what they had done. That Al:'. to all introits and purposes, indemnified them fur what they did under sisoperetion ; on it they could found their full legal justification in uny Court of Justice. --(//eur.)--Whoever heard of a prosectition aginesst them fur at certain times laving an embargo on all the eesselS iii our ports P Great private Minty may hire ocrarred, best no one ever thought of tinkling thesis responsible forit. 'llse votes of many Gen. *hatless were professedly given on the ground that when we passed the Suspension Act we gave a tacit IrrtakiuK to bear Ministers harmless during its operation. This was a complete deception, for there wits no reason whatever for self-protection, why Gaveritinesit should call for this Bill of !salsa tttt ity The Suspeasion Act authorised them to detain per sour without bringing them to trial, nod in that they 11.. d their isidenstsity. They have committed several nersoris uu charges of high treasuti ; but the Reports of the Committees soy, no individnal was committed except upon oath. Are We to sot derstand by what fell front t:w Attorney-General, that these persons also give infortuattots ou with, were, at the time they were giving Hoch inform*. thou, apprised that they would nut he called unto, publicly to substantiate the truth of tiwir idlegatlons; that they would so fact sieve, be used, awl therefore that a disclosure now would be a breach of faith Inwards these deponents ? If that be Clearly the case, then both Houses of Parliament loser beets of sled.—(!lran)—Ttse commitments. for aught we kiaow, situ), under such circuinstattets, be not only uttwarrantril, but the result of private and personal pope or enmity ; they were made not under the pro per sanction of an oath, us it ought to hare been ad stered ; it would, indeed, snider tiny circum stances, be binding on a moral nod religious fosse but in legal and political cousideratonts, it was wholly louse and vague, fur he who gave it frit n o t the due finer of his responsibility if he was protected from being eutifrosited with and sifted by Isis accuser. Now Isere it was said that Government should ob.. tsits credit on their own assertion, that they hurl nut abused the powers intrusted to them, or, more pro perly 'peal:tog, the additional powers with which they invested themselves, for that was the fact.•— (1 - /eue.)—l don't say they have abused these powers, but I say I have, prima facie, tio reason to aleppot.e they have ootes-(Hear.)—One Gentleman, aI I do out now see in !via place, rood one al , bons my uut kitowiog the name of the place lie represents, 1 can only describe as the Member who int:sl his voted for this Bill fur the cake of his owes ruieristenev (Ale. Freetnatitir)—(4 laugh, and firer,)--had said, that the allegations iu every one of the Pvti lions presented had been disproved —every our dis proved I This was rather a fatal mistake, for the lion. Nletnb.tr seems to have contented himself oath iking a denial as a disproof.—(llear.)—flow did the fact stand ? Of 11 Petitions, the statements of three were denied; reelecting the ientaiinler riser contents lever not even denied, much leen refitted. I du not .ay their statements ought to be taken as proof, but I say that the opportunity of ilfolilig their cit-es should not be disallowed. I sty tee not tow reface the chalice of obtaining josbre elsewhere, to those to whom we refused an y i n quiry liste.--(clsse.)—We should not tell these ilcOple, • Away with your Petitions, tiny have nu business here !' and then follow up the refusal, by slititiing tbe gates of justice Nom theta in their totipeuls to the law of the land. - (Irene. hear.)—'There inq have been exaggeration* to • 1111 l e of the Petiti o ns; but I believe in inv heart that suohy grow, hurl aggravated, and cruel, and wanton seriiiipto have been ,nil eted upon a smother of Isis - Maketea ushiects : and shall we sqy fit Owns, • Yost shall tier no redress r —There was nrr reeve's, alleged Gs one saying to them, 6 No juslike .1 shall yon is said, indeed, fled we have tool ass itsquill by ir Crow l itt er ; (skier latiPi it been east we had ne coch iseptiry sit sit Owes sueli a mode It. had been adoisten„—(Hear.)s This Bill er.is the illittpring of this erect e.f owns irisy.anst what had been its progress to the Muse I Ministers were silent on the subject ; mina of deem (Mr. Cushion) ;inked ramie Int want, and 'sin, that if ever their was a subject Oul whirls they kthe Itlonstero) should say oothinq of sill, (hi., was Ohs( subject, for it concerned their min pervious! mete.-- This was the fad., mind the season um :twirl, for these silence was u good (loc. They ought to !told u si. fence on awl, • subject, it was maid (and said pro perly), for the sake of decency delicacy. Itid they Jobe N ? Inuit uethe Pict. They. Orin form ed a Coussisittee so tatinuitie situ their rim) critt duct -6. they cowtitiord themselves Mem of that Comilitfir—they drew up the. Itep t ir7 the judgment id the C o mmittee. sir rather of them ',elves, ileum their own acts. 'Elul did $ ll this , arid then-0 I ro, delicacy's, sake—took no part in the generai debate in this House. N"w '"Y letaala n F 4lllli ought . to Irree been their dell. cacy or sense Of decetary is precisely the reverse of this-6-bir I think that in the private inipstry, by err". lll teei they should not have a ppeored at all, much less like,' oily part ; and that in the public proceeding, arid the( v only, they should hive come forward net made defetice.—(Load (Tits fy" Hertr.)—lfiere Should have harts 119 private niter feretice, ass °pelt and moldy course of promaal in, if Niro' as and were intetided„—. (lleur.)—Sir ttttt IMP been said in ridicule of the ballot, that I shrill say little on the point. A bal lot, II Is trail, IS the fairest wily of appointing a Committee, and that if the Ministers happen In the formation to have a majority, why it is only cause they have the majority of the House itself in their support. Why, or course, they can coin 'naiad a majority in this House, fur if they did not they would erase to he Mmisters. As matters st I the Opposition was in c porisoit numeric ally small, and the other party in the House, consisting; of the independent country Gentlemen, or those who were neutral in their plan of action, sometimes voting with one party, mid some t' rs with the I other, also mny lie said to be, to use the law phrase, in traniitas --(A tingh J --and who occasionally turned the scale, could not papa tibly throw in their preponderance in the plan of hello , . If the lists of Aliiiisters were indeed sent raisin{ to every Nleinlrer of the House, and any counter list disposed of in a similar manner, then the neutral pal ty, or Gentlemen no their passage— ( el /creek J.—might have fair effect—hut thos'wus impossible according to the mode adopted. A Hight Hon. Gentleiniii (lir. Canning) had said, that :hough Ministees had site Ii •t, yet, he recol. leeted when Opposition al-n flamed soother.--1 do nut remember any such occorreuce, staid if it was ever done it was a very foolish practice, and could not possibly produce any etr-et. the scru tineers exattetwil the lists on the late ballot, they found, out of tod, !r7 contained the same Mime% mud were in the same litiml-writing.—( Heise. )•—• Why if this course were pursued, it would he het ;ter Slat snore ceinottnical at once to paint the lists. !alight, and hear. )—I am ustimislii-d how Gets tlemen opposite call look at a Cosilsitiltee crumb lased in this manner, act' hope for it any credit— and yet this is the Committee before a hich Miuis lrrs have Owlets that they exercised the powers intrusted to them fairly, justly, and lionoutebly.— Hear, hear.)—Fur the proposed medium, the Ministers also found what they thought to be seve ral precedents. Now I contend for it, and fearlessly of soy reply, that the only precedent at all in point is that of 1801. I venture to my, there is no other precedent. It is very true, there have been stispensions of the I Libras Corpus Act, and also that there have been lioleintiily Bills afterwards, but the fallacy is with those who Say that the one is a eons, gurney of the ether. 'llse Attorney-General was )oil good a logician to say. test because one measure followed dowdier, it was caused by it; this. was a sort of sophism fist which logiriatis, as my Learned Friend knows, have a name. I have looked. as will is I could, into the history of thr;se precr•leuto ; It was not an easy task, nor can I say I have been wholly su •cessliel, for in:uay llgem are nit printed in the Statute Beek ; last Ir t the House just look at these precedent., and see the time when they occur it, Its 1111 l •Iy, at the time of I Ists Re sal w /joss. the lie. belli tttt of 1;15, rood of 1745. These were also times of great civil war, a 11101 called fur extrorilinary measures fur the safest' of the State'—these were , emergencies whit h tnarle pier:y(loas fur diets-elves; they were like those we base sere, 'shirk during au isuproding invu gave the power to seize the horses of ally person fur the conveyauce of military stores ; and the Acts passed on such oceasi tttt s had reference to the extraurdisiarysituationot the times, which called for strong and sudden measures : 1780 was also a period, not linked of outrage which could be dignified with the epithet of rebellion, but of a state of lawless violelti:e in the metropolis, which cansc.l, fur the moment, the stinWsisitas of all go touneut. and He! ts: irily rcrjoired the most p pt Hod t frecacioini measures for the imme diate return of was necessary, in fact, for the illagistiacy to act on the spur of the 0, 41 ,5i0 n , and to do acts, ',crimps, winch went be y I the strict letter of the law. A L a d en ,. nity was, therefore, passed, to siTeen them firm fat. tore litieetiots, but no Imspeos . ;oo of the 11abeas Corps's Act had t iken place—it wits very properly held that the one was quite distinct and 'nicoti ne. it d with the other. The times of open rebel- Lau a n d 1/11V111141/11 made precedents for themselves, and is. the lost-case, as, indeed. ill till, it tams 111:11141 . S 1 there nos no necessary c rest' Letweets a Suspension Bill and an Act of Infirm ; their-foie the Getitlemen who Noted under this iiiipsinsion, h a d certainty decided ou a must fullacioas impression. next poi n t in the Bill was the indemnity to Magi,.hair-. NOW did any man &run, when the Sosperiston Air. was ptobeill. .1111 AL Alitintera a mild afterward* 'loin" a Bill of linleMoity.tur Alagisr. bates, not fur thew acts drarifig the suspenviod of the liberties of the people, but from au irotectiltnit date, teting hack to the , 26zIk 4,lttory ? Tu agree its this part of the Bill, we must be satisfied that earkp it) Ow month of Jannary, 1817, the Magi*. tnilel could trot trust to tire strong power of the taw then in their 11.tealss. bat lutist gritsr dt whit wLs rablirit ~ ACTs6U: beyond far the preser rattans of the public peace. The AttorneysOette. ral had strafed line case, that at Slanchester, in rolticii they tumid it ne:e.itary so to act. I Aren't] reKh surprise rind astonishment this ease goosed ill r sueh • stsair(er, trial rot forward us the grootsd of tea' 'so...veiling ill I:a.. qmPpradiell that a ati.alibee, peiSsitis v.rre taken into ktutruly for LeMS cool nett in u tumitliu•Ty intsvnibly dux* • Isere, isnarearl of briog July 11.40 . 01 t to trialL, pawed I over from one Qom-ter Seta:ions to another, said •.1 ben reosoverf Ct,l/OraJd at the eve of the Sesision-, so as to press their it is sli!! OW Ilia, *lsiah tort were animus to siert. This are in it self 411 4( . 1 of 11111111t , .1011, aid tense people srt;re of. terve - as 'non zlst into Court, and the Learned Gen itlenion wllO acted for the A ttoviley-Gesieral infide u tine speech, alluded to the return of tranquillity, and Ned that Goserestnent were reedy and asaximis to skew 'leery to the itreteafol, and then to conselit to their discharge. If these Men were innocent, • they el Id nut have been so oppressively trested ; if guilty, there was nothing for the i‘loteestroitee to fear from any mellitus they might .briii..4 isAiiinst Them. Is it fair thee, in the dark, without knowing env one circuinstetice connected . with the detention of these men, at mice to come forward end give a sweeping Proteetiosi to the Magistrates, iv:lobed no motive to ifs-entre it if the arrests were made in the fair al o of open inaimer that had hero de-embed ?. The Act of Geo. 14. gave them alreelly 2tople pro teethes fur the full end fair exercise of their discretion, and reordered it 000000 ecess try for them in the just 'discharge of their duty to seek any oilier indemnity. "%Vile carry back the Bill to the ethli of Inanity ? Was there a single svle fable iii the Reports of the ,Committee to instify this retrospective date ? 1' will put it to the Gen tlemen hi this Howie, who stand, as it were, be tween the "%Innate'' awl the Opposition, who take a credit to themselves for the independence of their port isinieetery conduct. wilhaeseti by any party feeling, I will sook then' how they can reconcile this date of the Bill aid' that ineehitoos linen(' cosolinct which can alone emote their support ?—(Hear.)—l Is it or is it not meant to ;protect some particular 1 criminal from the justice ill it ought to iiivait him?— (11 • - ...mai will they, eau they believe that there is ri ' *nee sittisier object hellind which it-tomtit bear the it s• ? If they sire ready to bow to the desire of e• Aliisisters to antedate floe Bill, they may as well agree le Its hitting isify sell more retrospective ape notion which may suit the views of Goteentittent, us ' to limit it to thisdate.—l I /ear./ —This was evil. (lenity olosie to meet some flagratot eisee. elfear.l— The House lied heard the stetemeitts in sonic of the Petitions ; we have beard some of the r plaints to refer to teiztee of t eeters, soil 'visor that dee so:remote On this i dwell nu/horny. one to which su e r Learned friend (Ilse Attornev-Gerwrii , ) will bow with proffer reverence, I meow that of my Lord Camden. when in the C 44444 1111.11 fleas he pronounced that celebrated jodgmetit in the ease of the seizure of papers on A charge of libel (Mr. Wilkes's, we by. lIVVC). On that oil:astute when the Act was ma justly proimosiced illegal, what was the fact ? The seianre was inutle at inid-day by a regular olfi •ero tinder au order of the Set retary of State. ‘Vhat are the caws now wine!' it is said have been dis proved ? I will not eater into the disetassien rela tive to (bout or his Perwlies, but I must advert to the etorietnents of some of the Petitioners wine!' contamed most grievous charges—thew honees were brato-ii open at midnight, their fiersonv loaded with : iron., they were sent froin prison to prison, detain -1 ed in houses of correction at hard litbour, and all this by the miler of Nlegistrates a:eing under the authority of me Lord Siolosoittlet celebrated Cir. cular Letter.—(hear.)—This was the bitter (muse lquence of a Secretary of State chuosiug to instruct ! Magistrates as to the line of their thity.—(heirr)— i I inn willing to admit that the great bode of our I Iklegistrates are must upright, useful, end bottom -1 able mess ; but arc there no iguorinit Magistrates, ) who would be disposed to curry favour with • the i Pow e rs that be,' and to de that which they thought would . gaist (beam credit with their pat roots ?--(11roor. ) —lf the flocsie were tub!, when that Circular ',rite: was under consideration, that its effect would be to have inen arrested and ironed, like mimicries, sent to heel labiour b, fore they were brought to toed, i and exposed to a punishment before trial, to which 1 they could not be consigned ern if ci.....tc.1, 1 and that removed by certiorari, am! nll this li .r it 1 bale of what were celled hbels—if the flow' , had j been told this sit that time, eo et ern ise ( ei , e f i f 1 have bell , veil that such seed- could have happen ed ; awl yet they were almost tee inevitable result of the step then teketa by the Sieeetary of State.— ()kw., hear, hear./ —The Bill went In inoleeenity for the seizure of papers, of whose papers it slid not distinctly state, amid the only way of understanding the sentence was by referring the relative to the 1 nearest unteceoleist. It would then seem that the persons alluded to were lila! charged with libels. 1 have already said that if such people had been convicted, it would bare been sum atrocious act to have loaded theta with irons', as if they were niiir. derers—riiirl yet this appears to have been done the moment of their arrest ; mud it is into such cases we have refused an inquiry, and such persons we are about to debur from their legal redress.—(llear.) —There was one ease uncontradicted, which ought to make u deep impression on the Ilouve. It was. that se Chester, of a pow men rimed Swindell, who was in the habit of tel books. Ills house had been broken into in the dead of night. He was then thing in bed with his wife, who was far advanced in u elate of pregintucy, she was forcibly owlet' out of her lied ; and the eff, et of this shock was such, that she 'lied of premature labour, and he: child also died ; the uniortunate 'luau's remainieg child wit. sent to the workhouse, awl lie liiiiimelf, offer u !manacled and severe impritormielit, sass set at lawny without any form of trial.—(!leer, hear, hear.)—This was fully sowed in the public pe e ves; and if it can be contracted it ought, for 1 the sake of common buominity• A Hight floe wouruble Gentleissen (Mr. Canning) Iniol treated route of these cases with levity. Suter Gentlemen might thilik this was, the proper and becoming course ; but it was s o me consolation fur those who ! wete of a different (Therm, to feel that though the ; linuee was capable of suipeuiling the Lew' and the Cosiatitutioe, et could me enspeed the great Iwo of 1 mature—it resold not shield from public Wilignatiou a the authors of such evil, nor efiempt them fine 1 the burning tortures of their own come:Waters—te e * may be made secure from legal prosecutions, bi t e ; they could i:ot be shielded bum the horrors of 3rli condemet sus.—(heur.)-1 sin glad to sir my Ilint. slid Learned hieml (the Attorney-(.1(.1'cm!) takiiier i putt*. Ile a ill net, I sue sure, of the legal point, 1 attempt to argue ngainst the ileciehm of Lord Cum: ! den—h e re t wilds either the doetrisses or the I sloe isiiiii of Iliot eminent and upright Juolge. An I Hun. Fr'enol (Air. Leinlnnio) hail said, ilia this ! 801 l was the windiug up .4 the system of injustice practised Niel es eoureged by ill:iiistene-.-eljear. I hear. j-11' avid to God it were so ! I e: t luoli 1 at it sat 11w wilitlioig up, but siV the contineev-inelse oh a system %%Lel' carries with it every species of pet e i and unbridled terautty through the whole king. &au. • 1 thirds so from theiistimetion Iltelerils' Report, that notwithdaritling the decrease of the dies • affected„isi number• stud strength, site Citeamittee apprehended that the isrierfereekee of Gorerouteut en d 4,e ,Wairisitales illroilkong. the commie!, mould still be nectesdrg to pentevereirs the course they had already taken.'—(ileur. J—The (7. ttttttt 0116.' Report was gin •strotiger. for it is -said, 6• Your estruld deceive the House if they did not state it as I 'h e i r ' ,p in ion, dist the vigilance of the Govpirionent I wil l toe Al:rgistrates - was . neresfark.' nal* 1. there Isitt.:,l mot possequivnea" 14titer think r iliat Moister* wdl west year have a bel e tt ter 'defence to make. for. Irsisiginti in a liiih of liteleinuity for the current year, than their i. 'i sn s e It wa s most dettgerous 'tuns' I excitiog Nligistrates to thael Isiaers ve : i t i t lieL e:6 i s tel t 's i t r I f s rr. ie e of n l ti h: „ o t :: d ,eu wee ere callelf to iproloug Obi int erfreettinti the part of Ortveris. mead with the unseistrecy„ we are -of necessity led to see what haiellereittfore beti the rlll:eht of such U:I interpositime—(lfekr.)—Ors this point t!'ehtutti presents to oi a great sod awful lessort.. 7 l/Icar.)--•• In the dreadful history of that country tcr . 'l;std that t r l t rs e t o i 7 0 g:3 1, 1 . 11i:id . f t o i r iesu t their e l s oy t i o ll o y o ( v t e s .rn i - t latent by tise excess.ve rept-wimp of tilt ir seventies, and tied' in the end liwy were not deceived' in their expeetat sou of Government aisidarive. fur they faitiOl the their ii:tiyity Ultimately led to itovesde as will I as Isolsours.—llierre, Iteor.)—.A Noble lord ears. I site (Laird Castlereagh) hall said on a former slight, ' that it %mold he most desirable obese former 116111.. 'Petioles in Ireland stsmila lw buried in oblivOiA; it would . have been indeed lured dertirsitle Opt they had never occurred, but having insist strifortenately existed, they could never lie buried in oblivion, becarifte they formed toss important a part in the history of that comstry.— (Hear, kerb, 4cor)— All those who were essiretiiitel its these doeselful Measiirrs would 'wrestler have justice slow diem, in the.coritlentriation of posterity.—(lfear,iteer.) —No mass who bus once nail the events or Irish history, at the periml to which I allude, 0411 ever forget theitt..-,(llear)— i slo nut meals to tllvti4t the Mouse with any acted of these horrible rams cities which • disgracer) every feeling of Immo siily.—(lfene, hear. 1-I.liptory would record wish astossithineiit, that they were committed iss the Britieli empire slitting the mild and beneficent reign of George 111. arid its the t outstry twee *hie!' his Viceroy presided. They were canted 'ly the stimulus ;;.yen by Governinent to the local 114gis trates, :tied the titrocitits committed, Whets .posl - of mites wurds, wei e met by the muse sort : of 'evil that was 110 , 4 Wiewn when similacitrateices were fostered into activity. It sus then said, whets cruel torture was eicpusesl-4 0 all this is about the sore beck of a Catholic.' This was the siystetti which was developed its a neighbouring country. and these were the itiesins by a nich it had been insti gated. Man is man, tinder whatever Goverwitrot fie is phased, and it is the tendency sir human nature to exceed rile authority intros:4 to him. The same tystein which caused shear effects in Inl an d will loose their lure, arid we on 4lit to look atilt severe jealousy at every step towaids .the esesish s lsinent 411111111g6t es of tin bitter uu evil.—(llear, !sear.) " The Sit object of the Bill was to protect those who hail given inforrniition throughout, the country. I have sin ashy stated the precede tit of 1801, as the only one besinue toe the. polio. I say 'slither, 1 15.1 t it is it teoroachisii Nod th, , .grairt•litt inteettent. The itteseol Hill. hod NI it is. is nut iotesoleil to do the ittitivtive which that one d is h. Th e ILI! a 1801 ' M t 41141 to all prosecutions hrotiOit for acts of the ei g ht intirettiog grass; it punish,-41 with double I costs those wilt) brought them at a time when no penalty attached to their seeking re:tress; it 1110111•IIVIL them for oat tulltleits sting. oinkr the ewes:. sure of their grievances, that Parliauseot right 'ears afterwards, du diem t h e violent injustice it laid dour. Bet the vitt of the precede's, of I 89 I, retpectitig the disclosure of the Inforiebaitiout received, woo lii the present vase tits authority. The treason then 11 I)Si • ti was u correspowleirce krpt up with certaill persons in Frostier... A diva:loss:l'e of the names . of such persons would then be inert dangerous, for it would have 'minted Milt, nut to the Freisch Go „vernment, in whose power the einistatics were, real ,gliey must have instantly . suffered. Wlist analogy was there between the danger to i.e apprebeistled then from this disclosure, unit that now to be fr.a esd ? The object ionto disclosure slow wise, lest the /'Pawns givisig the informations should be esposed to popular or iirdividual outrage. Is there halt• one of them who can fear such a consequence from disclosure ? I sr his any witilevs declared himself not to he safe under Übe protection of the law Not the slightest allutirm is wade in the Ite. porta to :my such apprelienaion. Dish any 4.f the witnesses who gave evidence at the kink at Derby or York express any imwillingnees . to come forward on the o c cas i ou ? or tratie diet since 'suffered any threat or injury for thietestirisoq' they then gave ?. They dial rod ; and therellsre it was clear that there was 1:ot the shadow of gonna" for the appreheission which dictated this corsceale wrist. ‘Vill the florist. then sactioit what they must feel to bit a false pretence hrarr.)—Ttie words 111 the pire.wist lull , and it is necessary to pro's-cu, f to future du prrvet,t earn Ihr exact wools of Ihr lull181)1 but 4 1 1 : l e a nn they i i . n e e t 4 u 9 s ? int l e V ri h n y el, plain he rens.F., of g : % ' :u M t • in ts its erios tni sZ) l4. tise it r e‘ t i l l ia " s t p ° tl t s ie iis-177venItsallitrelLefIllip.1110eylea ni t e rlile 'g li to represerst elsaraeten they did no t tro lly sostaiii„ who went shout wherever they could find thsoffreted people, and blew into • Milne the embers they found Intoning, :mil it is necessary to protect such per rnut, Nod future In prevent these praetices.'-- This wa• die plain I?.siglisli of the words—they mold mean nothing else. Now sis to the einploy.. inesit of tines anti ii;fonmer, I ism still of (minims, I otrwithstat:ding the tith, old lu t Ii l ma v exprose myself, entojthstanding the sarcasms that may he uttered against me. that the emplrsymeist of spies in the manner in whirl' Oliver was rinido re d not be justifie4.—(llear, hear.)—The Gentleman opposite iNir. may ti:iiik rises • new inutmaktf''--(/' ear)—hut it was neverthe less true "tuorality...—filene.l —The II gilt 11011. Grodirimin may reisrat bit hutuoruus nlise s Aims, that a man who bud two velvet, or who had done this. thief( or that thing Unptopetly, was %et a lair and credible wittiest. I don't deity that I:e 1114 V. I hut 1 do deny 11lit he is credible, in trimpicisi,„ with the declaration of en limiest, . 1 j ,,, g. ~ religious. or n moral man. 1 never surd t: ,t what source a may, tat: ..g t it ! :..:ln o tsi l iigr e isir r uit t i.e i lio t ts ti e:, : en t: lr t :eito:.iist s cuite l ,:e bO arryne t t i:fi l i d it:t.Lit. i iii t i o n : :ximerill o .ro pe ilit i i i iiies i t. : :i e. : i r is:J:llm e ar s sbt.l7, r i , n o . ► tr: i ii i ',toyed, though mit, I Si4VC All y , . I.tll llt , 1 1 .-4 I t• tike _evil ; foe, frouLthe..esiy Wit= of tfte.*Yrkttis.il riti' the steps they lied done. Iktt there s w at the ;rest lithle .to atonningble 04nirea..„.,:the,,,tiiiiiiiiiit a raim .. ent . a.. nd. .vti s tuitus ,4tidge, "cote 11".10NPh"11\.; ,t h,h' i,. i tii v ini, e ,t i t i sti i,t ofi i:l ii e so o t ti litr rii t i,t ildi : a l i ilim ifie l j i ,,. l 744l n ic i l e le.t i i: t iE4; : tx r r ii . l . o l4 :: :(iin:tta i to , , i in remember; them, Pierre wet a Mutt • renotriltk. a more lionouroble . .Isiiitivet, ..or it. more patriotic '• judge ; he had the grist Met 1,1 , 0 f riling to,the heal of two Courts by west owl ItittionisAle means—by ~,,, &wising* ,of pliability. to tio.:Ministte of the day; lint lii Open at euriebie meant. 'lt peals if ldu out ~. .. ini,tuk f , on I ardY's trtill..ttiat Prier J.llo4't.Etie • hinkit, direti, thet it wee jinctitialileitiditurt a petwini to watch at, or take notes tit the proceedings of pre emie engeged in tresientable tletigint, arid report the particuilar. to thou.. 11119 t , illt hint, .0%111 wils it lis • t h he pit,. here ? . AVli h tt tewrinlil:ihre : .( p ill :it to Olin of , pliier,,,or ill' (:alitle w -4keur ‘ lrear)•—vilto was i titter' out for_the inceawion. end .dre,twil,up by Co. ~ ter:novo to be put into the, !timers boa, .aad his I w if e i ren r nu t of the . way by !Arms!, of the Bus. .. i r s ill l t br a t fp ti ce o., ? ;9l ( l )li ,i 7 l r tiv w7 t s e :e;t h . cli ce ir : t i i ! t e o t w b a r , country i.— lids was sir 1141;144;d l'at:t.—:(lleiv. keens, heiri)— ile neat }lows i h reinwitirfige,,the,slijiit of dosiffec tion. 'I do net,,ay.he brio eent dowil to do Efl, but 111 is not ikon-11101A he did, te a awl Alio it created the explowton which 64191441, r ',/!,t7ax, Irear.)- 1)a the trials at Derby and l'oi k it, wee clear that Ithe petkile would not hate tairir4l,..were it• lint hie the instigation ..r ow Lino. 1.)t...,,,,,,...- yk, Ai iiiritey-Grneral,saitl tliiit f..llitr bad erhibittd in the country—yes, he hail ex dined hispow Ilati a living.tes. Annuity tat the disiffected iii .I.iiiirlini--as the :were, dowel ! agent end ens oy ft the metropolir—iiiilterl Iris language was wo violent rod writiitle accorded with the feelings of ilinst: Nom, *limn Ile wiiii i i d 'to work, that they tictoally cletrothiced him ea an %trifle misprint?. But the Getitlemati opposite saj4l,oliver had not, created the disafkrtion, that he liosiiid it reedy organised .nit his arrival. This was precisely the eround taken by melt who were the •moat execrated of mankind—it was that taken by Vaughan and his associateit-- (I do mot mean Brock, Pelham * and Power, for theirs was, the horrilile istrii!tify o(, eintrappilig inticcet.ce, to where among ' 'live the itirstr,:hle reward of cooriction).—Vaughau said, the perroiss iodise...4 to commit tile burglary, were burglars already—that they were thieves be fore they fell into the trap set fur them, and there fora the moral guilt of the snare entirely &say. neared. The argument for the act of Ulmer sir. hvirallel will, this. Ido not Itss it i•fretat.civ, but i il.e ground take.. in both (notes it precisely the w 11111 —Kati .yet_ thus it..the system, ro reprobated by all. that we are about to sanction Jim' ado )t. -- • (ben.. ltear.)—Tae iniportnitee of this willijeet b 4 I.' its reliteiniitly canine:led stie so trim hie the Ili u it some length, but thin impostunce obrinks him l ioNag witortiit is looked opals ow port of all odious wysiem, now, for the first owe, retired to a mil merit of profound peace.—(hestc e ••hear.l—W 1.1-11 iteggriictions wire sent round to Magistrate► to urge to a particular line of condect, end when inn ' by this admonition they itad..oheyysi the in. us, then came 111huis'ers with a .0.11 of In. jemmy rat their acts—wail. this has been argued as =a i ry Consequence of the lint Opp. The we are now about to make, will. I leer, ova be hog lettered to lie di rut tidy it, wal.be re- Pirsierd i in . other flws, with the, same additions - Ao its force that mark the prisent Bill in eons. t parison with peer truer, and the Nhgnitrates will, of course, be lid to think that impunity is tto necessary consequence of otenttrained tenser., a n d 'bit tilts is iii future to he the law of Etiglasid. I' know. uotwitlottanding the terrible anomaly in our laws that such a course of legialation will Nam i that this tnisichirmes precedent will be ewtaltlisheil —1 know that our ,Inuri.ols win record ihe Art, and the Petitions ere bare 44 before ii. will re. timill tor the .observotion of future lintel.. tegetlirr 1 with the refusal of this. House to listen to their I prayer wi-it, will be •told that we itor'enritAed the ! pertly. who iltlicted the evil, snit, what out the uuiortiiiiitte, sofferers from every, hi pe of , remedy. lii thicdilasgesta state of thitigh, At. will be my consulation...ud that of .those with whom 1 act, to tuna, -that wheu this precedent, oilier) sttekrs at . he root of the Constitution. shod he .read in future 1 times. it will also be recorded that there weie at , (midis few mess who, tlionith oyerpowerxd I,iy, uiiiii bers and the. cheers of a.trospitiliatit majority, mark . ed,the oreetlper ok di. letwitt*. ~,A ilietrAountry • with the ,feilings ,Il'at ,liecaumlElughe i btsten. who .. torervd the lettirark wait it their mwerstont retired for • the preservation of their liberties, anti al o witalwirt in vain to trantinir it to their, po.teiiiy— • it will be lumen that moue few vireo marle,a him, , though unhappily weft: ellial 04114 for the laws, .. she law. tic., and jowtice of their country.-- • (thar,heur.)-1 won't 'it that this measure is ut once the deartienuil of 0., ci•uotry, but it haw it ' direct tendency to U. atroy i wary thnif, which we, hull good mud is verc.—(/loin,)-11iniwtris iniiy boast , r lOm ii... If' ph* they hail guinea in the 41.11r111. of , the late war but they had clamed tlwir c•ir eer wilts a triumph OVtr the moat valuslile notitut into if tbetr vuovtry.—(iiettr.)— It they be SAW, in tlit latigivige of the Poet-- , That Eti ; J:isal, Om! II 3. anal to elowerr °Ours, Ha. nuali: a 1111/1111t 1 . 515 1 . 4111.101P111 OW 11.11.1.11.. 'Whatever be the fide attic" there mower, Nji .., entail upon the country. I re el that I have et eliarged itiy ditty in thus earnestly proteitil l , agattil them,. mid conjuring the House to comiti'er it:: awful responsibility they stir about to ii.cut."- ( Lund and roatinwed cheers.) The Souctroa GroattAs. to., to ready to 1 1 • , speech of Iris liiiii. and Learned I:I trial, who ha 1, t. fact, argued the question of loth to rct v as an isiiiii,: t ' i t t . hs r a r ela:::ti ve d e r t e :l c s :i Pli t til li A ti t o e t t S le t : l e r ti r ) i . c . i Tti.::: . n t hk ru : it o t r i i. gl: ': i t il et e ll :11 : 1 : 1 1 . 16 :1 1 1 . 1 1 -1: 1 1 1 ; :;;T:: ', :..! detesuity was a • neccs.ry tr , l•rtjuriter ~ r 11 , r Si - pruisittit of the Fial•etet Ci rpm. A: t. —tr..ti•••. In i , Ills Hon. and LtarEtti Fri-std had 4siti, iii.t. i catit) still e: dit'clo' of gut ports projec •rrvrtd molt h upou rates, ought preusul loy law,. -that MI for libr rupposi it will C irarch to per* ugoiu►t papers iimits of that, th [HereS jut.tifier; pipers.] what Ji city two aide to Magistrs in the es was then class of butt bout terti, 111 intuitive! Member the Acts Pad laud supprestoi rily for wag* :Mot dmiger 0 111111 0 11., to the In lot.l talk tuner, G content') th;tt the The .II the .efiell the Wee' the lure, tterst .rel subject. he vo*i li 9r /..." g Ilpfllllg , I ge1:01).f *greed t the rxi , tIL,t tlit• duto. i rillo!op ►tr • r t , lirttr, Agstois, it Itnil Ir heliirt I ,0 the itct(i lion • w evidviivs ed, ti.ut tletertuil °lily tilt brisiplm, ,xplotle turui liu lif °wily Mr of the I 4104 .. . • • ••• .....•• a ••••••• 110• I NIJI., . 11.% ‘ • . I —wows. . . . . -