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had thrown any aspersion on the Committee. If the Noble Lord (Hamilton) had attended to him. he would not have misrepresented him so grossly as be did. The Report was then ordered to he printed. A Message from the Lords announced that their Lordships had agreed to several Bills. Lord A. HAMILTON presented a Petition from a person of the name of Robert Maguire, of Belli. sua, in the county of Sligo, complaining of having been improperly prevented from selling spirits.— Ordered to lie on the table. ATTACK OF A SPANISH FRIGATE ON A BRITISH VESSEL Mr. MICHAEL ANGEI.o — TATI.OR said he had read in the public newspapers of an outrageous at tack made by a Spanish frigate on a British vessel. Ile wished to know from the Noble Lord opposite whether any representation was made of this trans action by our Government, and whether the facts stated iii the newspapers were correct. Lind CASTLEHEAGH said, that a communication was made on the suhject to the British Ambassador at Madrid ; that our Ambassador laid the subject before the Government at N 11111611; and that that Government was about to take such steps as the case demanded. PETITION FROM THE MANUFACTURERS AND TRADESMEN OF THE CITY Or CORK. Mr. C. HUTCHINSON rose to present a Petition, gigue.' by 5,000 of the Maiitifuet orris, Trot Wiliest, moil Labourers of the City of Cork. It was, lie veld, painful to him to he obliged to state to the Home the distress and misery under which the Petitioners laboured. He could assure the House, that theirs was no idle complaint—it was the sad representation of sufferings long and patietitly en dured; but those sufferings hid become et length Arm at intolerable. The mewing at which the Prtitloll was agreed to was attroded by several thousands of the people of Cork. He was anxious to impress upon the consideration of the House, the good order, temperance, and decorum, which marked their proceedings. The chair was taken by a man in humble life, hot of most respectalrle conduct—a working carpenter, of the name of O'Connell. Mr. O'Connell, on taking the chair, addressed this immense multitude. He reminded them, that in all their distress and mis tortusies, the people of Cork had been ever diet'''. gnemed by their peaceful and loyal conduct, nod besought them to preserve the character they laud 'required. Such were the efforts of the Chairtneu of that meeting to preserve order—efforts which he t is glad to say entirely succeeded ; whatever ryprehentions had been entertained of the danger inat might attend the assemblage of so many thou 'lnds of the working people, under circumstances of peculiar mut painful dedress, these apprehen sions were entirely dissipated by the excellent con duct of the people—which conduct shewed that they did not assemble fur any unworthy purpose, but in the exercise of a constitutional right, to convey to the Parliament of the Empire their sentiments on lee forlorn state of their country, and to implore. o f that Parliament retirees and protection. That the House might nut be able to afford the ri lief they sought, was possibly trite—hut the Parliament could not but receive with kindness and with respect a NllllOll framed like the present, :neat emanating from • people who have borne )16- %amine with a manly firmness—whose sufferings i• led for public sympathy, soil whose conduct de served the public applause. The l'etittoorrs, lie said, attribute mach of their misfortune to the waist of home manufacture. Whatever might have mice been the state of the nitumfactures of their cionntry--whatever might once have been the proud hope,' of Irish manufactures and Irish trade, that trade and those manufactures now languish in al most hopeless decay, and the poor are entirely on- eetplayed. The Petitioners impute mach of their distress to the absence of the landed proprietors; r-1 , 11, in common with almost all the people of Ire- Lid, they lament the measure of a Legislative Ullll7ll, which deprived their country of the ruler.. lion of a resident Parliament--aud they record it u Allele opinion that the restoration of their Parliatneut would do much to alleviate their distress. lie could not, he said, avoid embracing this opportu sill y of impressing upon Ministers the real state of Ireland. He hail heard with feelings of great satis. laclion the Right lion. Gentleman (the Secretary tar Ireland) state it as his conviction, that one great source of mischief to Ireland was the number of her shsepires. In that opinion he entirely costarred, and lie lamented the. conduct of the great proprie tors, who, instead of remaining in their country, the guardians of their tenantry, the patrons of the snasiulactures of their country, spend the fortunes from their Irish estates in the luxury said dissipations of other countries. Ile suggested that air great an evil might be in some degree prevented, 11 laying a heavy tax on absentees, such a tax as would roforce their residence in lieland. He had wreu, lie said, in the Irish Newspapers adver tsernenta of meetings similar to that which had brill held at Cook. He had not the least doubt but ttat the example set by the people of Cork would br laithfully followed, and that whilst his country ':,en !Mewed • constitutional spirit, they would also .‘ ,ice a loyal and peaceable disposition. He next sh.iiiled to the state of religious feeling in Ireland. To, Noble Lord opposite (Lord Castlereagh) knew i!iat one of the great difficulties in goveriiiiig Irr laml was to control the spirit of party—that un 11:,ppy spirit which nothing but ignorance and folly pavotiottrti, and which Wllll as rancorous as ignorance Hod bigotry could make it. Ile was convioced that Altiosters could not better discharge the duty they tined to their country than by exerting themselves to put dose that spirit ; it was to Ireland the source cf distraction and of oeakiiess, anal until that lac. boo, which builds its power on the humiliatiou of the great body of the people, was put down, there ceillit be little hope of establishing the general tranquillity of that country. The Right Ho loanable Gentleman, the Secretary for Ireland, was received in that country with unexampled contidruce, because lie had before distinguish ed himself as the eloquent advocate of civil anal religious liberty, lie would still labour, no <hallo, to extinguish the urrhappy prejudices which I,i grred in that country, and if lie (Mr. Hutchinson) 'right take the liberty of offering an opinion, he ei:•uirl say to him, that the summer could not be better spent than in an endeavour to subdue the spirit of factioo, and to promote the onion of the people. H. (Mr. Hutchinson) was convinced that this would do more to tranquillize and to *dynes the country, than any measure that the Parliament or the Minister could promote. . ln'such an mule*. your the Government would have the support Assad approbation of every honest man, the liberal and enlitldened of every religious persuasion would be hold with satisfaction the truly protecting effort of Government to allay the rancour of fellgIOUS Hill. tnosity, and to restore the people to confidence and tranquillity. Mr. PETER Afoottz complimented the Iolal and peaceable conduct of the unarm; of Cork. - - The Petition was then brought up, read, and or. dered to be laid on the 1011 e. Mr. BATHVIIIIIT brought up the Report of the Committee ou the state of the Gaolo.—Ordered to lie tot the table. Mr.GOVILDMIN broozht op a warieiv rummunicatious, relative to the Settlement on the Red River, which were or dered to lie on the table. On the motion of Mr. F. notimhss, it wa■ ordered that a Deputation be sent to the requesting a copy of the Report of the Lords' Committee on the state of the Pii 11011F. REVERSAL OF LORD EDWARD FITZGERALD'S ATTAIN DER. !Hr BROGDEN brought up the Report nu this Bill, which was real the third time, and passed. Sir CIIARESAi BURRELL moved, .• That the issue of a new writ for the Borough of Penryn he postponed for It dace after the nierling of the twat Session of Parliamont."— gt eeil to. Dr. PIIILIAMORE made a similar motion, with respect to the Borouzli of Barnstaple. To this a (Wernher (we believe Mr. BERNAL) moved, as an amendment, That a Committee should be appointed to rxantiur the Lords' Joni mils for any proceedings respecting the Barnstaple Bribery Bill." Lord CASTLEREAGH said, be did not see how this amessilmerut, eseu if carried, could throw any light nu the subject. 'The amendeueist was then withdrawn, and the original motion agreed to. Mr. GORDON said, he wished to put a question to the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer), relative to the Chatham line works. It was undeistood, when the money was granted, that a Bill would be brought in to regulate the expenditure of the money. That Bill was not, however, introduced ; but he hoped that money would be dealt wt.!' by the Right Hots. Getetlemen opposite precisely as if that Bill had actually passed. The CH ANCELLOR of the ExcHrQcea sa;(1, that a mistake in point of form prevented the BM being introduced this Sest•ion; but that every care should be taken as to the application of the money, and the Bill would be certainly introduced the refit Session of Parliament. The CH1NC61.1.02 of the EXCRSQUER rope to more that en Address be presented to his*Royel Highness the Prince Regent, praying that he would raise to some dignity in the Church the Rev. Dr. Wordsworth, Chaplain to the House.— Agreed to. And another Address to his Royal Highness, praying that he would he pleased to, order a sum 'of 1400/. to he paid Jam.' Brogden,•Esq. Chiliromai of the Committees of that House during the pre sent Session of Parliament. And a similar Address for such a sum a% with fees and emoluments, %mild make up a rum of 2.5001. to be paid to J. 11. Ley, Esq. the Chief Clerk of the House, for his services. And a similar Address for such a sum as, with fres and emoluments, would make up a sum of 1,5001. to lie paid John Hickman, Esq. the Se cond Cletk of that House, for his services. And a similar Address for a sum not named, fur compensation of Clerks who have attended the different Committees of the {louse. And a similar Address for a sum of 8,0001. to Nicholas Carlisle, Esq. S.cretary for the Courities, fur the remuneration of eight Cominissiooers. And a similar Address f.r a sum of 8501. to John Smith, C.q. Chairman to the Committee on the Bankrupt Laws, to be distributed amongst the Solicitors employed on the Committee. Mr. Hunt: moved n sitnilar Address for a sum of 2,0001. for the expenses of witnesses who attended to be examined on the Scotch Burgh Committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would not oppose the • hut grants of this loud ehoald be cautiously dealt ith. Mr. BATItuRsT said the Treasury, or some other Board, should establish a fixed rule on thi:i head. Air. GRENFELL considered the grant for pay ines.t of solicitors as tending to establish a danger ous precedent. After a few observations from Sir J. MARJORL. BANKS, Mr. Douci,As, and Mr. J. P. GRANT, the motion was agreed to—as were the dif f erent other grunts. r EMIGRATION. The CHANCELLOR of tin. EXCHEQUER said be had another Address to propose relative to the en couragement of settlements in our dependant colonies. His Majesty's M Misters laving thought it almost a reproach to the country that so much of our population should remain at home without the means of employment, had already made un expert ineut in that way on a small scale ; its result hail been such as to induce a desire that it should be extended, and it was to attend encouragement said means fur that purpose he was about to propose a g.aitt of money by the Houee. The colony which it had been deemed most prudent to select for the strut of the experiment was the Cape of Good Hope. This had been thought preferable to the British Colonies in North America, because in the latter place great expenses were to be undergone before any advantages could be reaped from the country ; besides, the climate was very unfavourable, owl the winter most rigorous. But when once the set►ler wale on the spot in the colony pitched upon, a prospect of competence., enjovment, and independ ence was opened to him, and he was put in a situa bole to ensure all these things; so great was the mild ness of the climate and the fertility of the soil, that the emigrant would immediately be enabled to sustain himself on his arrival. The colony was pe culiarly adapted for the management and increase of sheep, and lie considered our trade would derive great advantages from the vest growth of sheep, which, would probably take place there, and front its forming such a convenient entrepot of com merce. 'the spot chosen fur the settlement was on the south-west coast, near a bay which had good anchorage and landing, and about thirty miles distant from a . good town already built. As he had mid, an experiment had been already tried on a small scale, under the direction of the Secretary of State, of tending out families dvaircus of leaving the country. paying the expeoses of their passage ; but they bad been required to make a small advance of money on setting out. which was repaid them on their arrival. That precaution ensured the means of the intlividitalt supporting themsrlvt4 till a re turn t.l the cropv. The country produced every thin ; ; most valuable in the Torrid and the Temperate Zone—it bion, : lit f.oth the *int, the olive, and the mulberry in the greatest abundance, by which it was reasoirvble to hope the three great brunches of -isir manufactures would be considerably angmettied mot improved.—( hear, Gear. Gear)—The peop!e who vdiould go omit, would find themselves very soon afier their arrival, from the measures adopted by Government, iii the posvertion of a competeuce. —Wear, lie•rr, Gear.)—Torre was no danger of our lootig the valUtible part of our population, as the proposed plan comprelfemlvil those only who were unable to procure the means of employing themselves at home. Thrown which it was thought proper to propose granting was one not exceedmg 50,000/. which be thought fully sufficient for the present. The Right Honourable Gentleman then moved— " Thant nu humble Address he presented Pt hi, Royal it mho. rx the Prince Regent, praying his Royal Highness to dii ect the Lords Commissioners of his Majesty's Treasury to ksar from time to time, anal under such reaulatiuns us to Iltrut may seem expedient, such sum or sums, nut exceed hie in the whole 50,0901. sterling, ax they may deem neces sary to athirst riiciiiiragement to sorb of his Majesty's sub ject. as are drairoies of settling in his Majesty's Colony of the Cape of Good Hope." The question having been put. Mr. 111.:511; said, the project just explained was an extrrint!y laudable one, hut he was sorry it had nut been taken up by bis Majesty's Goverisment sooner. But he thought a material feature of such a plat) should be to call on the parishes to contribute to the sending out of able-bodied inhabitants, who had no emplovinent at home, or no funds to make the deposit alluded to. He knew that certain per sons in the country were of opittiou that this was • species of trnosportatio.,, but lie did nut by any means view it in that light. He thought it might be made the meat a of bringing effectual uid to the great distress which prevailed in the country. lie did not approve of the mode in which the sum proposed was to be expended—if it was to go in aid, as had been said, of thoae plaweasesl of capital already, he should consider it as lost. 'Eh; CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sail, it certainly was a part of the plan that the parishes should be assisted in sending out such part of their population as they could ant bud employment for, and were willing to emigrate ; but it was 110 t con templated to employ any force or compulston with IDY persons.—(Hear, hear.) Alderman WOOD said, it appeared strange to look for ground to be cultivated in foreign lands, when there was no less a quantity than 80,000 revs lying waste at Dartmoor, which the Prince Regent might grant out as lie pleased. Of late very large coatiacts fur stone had been made, and it appeared that stone of a most excellent quality, as good, perhaps, as that at Aberdeen, might be procured at the place lie had mentioned,. ?.Jr. C. HUTCHINSON agreed with the Honour able Member who had spoken list, that there was much land unemployril iii England, and other 'ruts of our domestic empire, but us that had not been drawn into use and occupation, he cordially approved of the spirit of the motion. But lie knew there were many individuals, particularly in Ireland, desirous of trying their fortunes in our foreign settlement►, but destitute of the means of lodging any deposit. He therefore wished to ask the Hight Mut. Gentleman, whether there was any part of his plan destined for the relief of that poor class of per►ons ? He suggested that one feature of it should be to make a provision for assisting the emigration of the distressed manufacturer, trades- Min, or peasant, who was not iii g condition to make any pecuniary advance. The 6IANCEI.LOR of the ExcHHEQvt•.tt replied, lie had stated his plan in such general terms as to preclude his going into the details. The Right lion. Gentleman made Sonic further observations which were not audible to us. Mr. W. Wit.mAsts said, that this country pos sessed sufficient resources iu herself fur the employ 'swot of all her population, if they were called into action. tie contended that a large proportion of that ',art of it at present living in idleness might be turned to useful labour, by tilling our waste lands, and particularly by the culture of flax, after the model of America, in the 80,600 acres referred to by the worthy Alderman. That too would add mud; more materially to our national strength than the sending out our people to distant clinics. The motion was then unanimously agreed to. SIR T. lIISLOP. Mr. II UME begged to to b;itiiormed by a Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, whether any further in forusati iiii lied been received from India, respecting the conduct of Sir T. Hislop at the fort of Taluier ? Mr. CANN !NU replied in the urgitive. COLLECTION OF THE REVENUE. Sir 11. PARN said, that in using to move the Order of the Dot fur rebottling the debate ou his Resolutions respecting the collection of the Re venue, he did nut thiuk it a t all necessary to enter lot° the geuersl subject. It appeared to him that in the discussion winch hod token place out the Tax Bills io the course of the present Session, an ad mission bad been made by the Right Honourable Gentleman (we presume the Chancellor of the Exchequer), that savings to the public might be made by an improvement in the mode of collect ing the revenue ; other Hon. G.tillemen, however, on the opposite side of the Howie, had afterwards said, it was in vein fur the country to look for any considerable alleviation of their burdens by reduc twit in the offices under the Government. As he. however (Sir H. Parnell), haul paid a great deal of attention to the subject, both then and now, he had been most decidedly of the opposite opinion, and had thought, and did think, flint if every depart ment of the public service were examined with a scrutinizing eye, and a sincere desire to practise economy, reductions would be found practicable from which would be derived the most material re lief, and he had accordingly resolved not to let the Session pass without presenting his opinions to the House in the shape of Resolutions. Ile was toe chord to think the question had been overlooked. because the Committee of Fimince, in their First Report of the Session, calculating the amount of the savings which might be made in IRO, bad mot • at all taken into account reductions iu the.,public offeiii,', Whereas lie was oeopinfon, that if that system were pursued which was contained in his Resointions, considerable retrenchureeis might be made, not in one or two, but in all the establish- Menlo for conducting the business of the country. Ile di.! not consider it as chimerical to expect that saving of 2 per cent. might be effected in the charge for collecting and expending the re e n ,,, e , which would diminish the national ho mans by ~,,e mdllon two hundred thousand pouuds amorally. Ile WI. on all occasions, by refer:Mg to whateter documenta were open to him. eilitenviairril to ohtsaii, to the beet oaf Isis knowledge, the total extent of the establishment of each Mee ; but as he had not access to the papers of the 'Arra. and as such places were constantly undergoing some wise. toms, lie could not pledge himself that lie had nut fallen into some inaccuracies.—(l/essr./ 7 - There was one of his Resolutions to whit+ he wished particularly to allude—thut whiell stated the charge against the public by the Batik. The Resolution described the net annual profit s.f the Rink (127.228 i.) to arise from m•tnaeing the public business, whereas it would he more correct to have said from managing the !mirk 'lt lit, as that was almost the only public business performed by that body. The lion. Baronet then explained certain minute errors which he had committed in stating the number of seamen kept no for the current year, the expenses of a few of the offices, und the extent oldie Civil List. Ile trusted the I !Arse would pardon these small inaccuracies, when they recol. beted the difficulty of the task lie hat undertaken, without possessing official iutormation.—/Hen►.)— Nis conviction was, that the I-I...Amore of the fits:lnce, of this country was such, as not oily to justify, but imperatively call for every species of retrencluneut. It was in vain to think of carrying into effect that retrenchment in the modes that had been attempt. e(k before; it was to' he bottomed mt new princi ples, and innovations were of necessity to he put to practice in the national establishinesits ; be uause, if the House depended on diminishing the number or salarter of clerks, the benefit result. nig would be very slight indeed; but if they set out on deeper principles and more extrud ed views, he anticipated the most beneficial con. s!•quences. It the system of patronage at pre sent exercised by Government was still to he left iii their hands, that economy could not be ex peeled which might reasonably be calculated on, it the machinery and working of all the public departments were consigned to the officers at the head of it. It was on these principles he had been led to introduce his Resolutions; hat they applied to the appointment of the inferior officers only, and the mousier in which business was transacted. Ile did nut feel that he was then called upon to go into the details of Isis Resolutions, though he was perfectly ready to do so on a proper occasion, convinced as he was that lie could support them if it became necessary, on clear and unde niable grounds. The I - lon. Baronet then moved the first of his Resolution.. Mr. LONG said, that a 4 the Hon. Baronet had not gone much into the subject, he should not trouble the House at any length. He was very 6► from accusing the Hon. Baronet of intentional mis representation, seeing as lie did material errors in his Resolutions ; he thought, oil the contrary, that he had examined the subject with attention. He could not, however, avoid complaining that the Hon. Baronet had miscopied official documents, to which he, in common with every Member of that House had access, particularly when lie saw that every news paper in the kingdom had published them, and many of them, relying on the usual accuracy of the Hon. Baronet, with comments, as if they had been all perfectly correct. The lion. Baronet had said, that great savings might be made by alterations in the mode of collecting the revenue. He (Mr. Long) should not argue that question with him ; but lie as.erteil, that no grounds had been laid by hint to induce the House to ndopt such an opi nion. He thought the comparison of the charges of collecting branches of the revenue completely different in their nature and produce, was most nu just. A circumstance not to be forgotten by the House, thought it seemed to have been overlooked by the Hon. But, was, that under the terms, " the charge for collecting the revenue," were included many expettsta of a quite different sieture. For instance, the sum winch was nominally the charge of collecting the Customs, comprised within it the expenses of the navigation, the quarantine, and the warehousing systems. The Hon. Bart. had stated from a Report of Commissioners of the year 1786, that " the office rules for transacting public busi ness were attended with great intricacy sod per plexity, particularly in the Customs, where no less than twelve single operations were required for the discharge of a single cargo." But lie should have recollected, that thirty-three years Itad elapsed since that period, and that very greet improvements had been introduced there in the interval. The Honourable Baronet had also referred to the Report of 1797, and averred from it " that a consolidation and simplification of the re venue laws would astable the officer to execute his duly with more promptitude awl earety"—but was lie not aware that three or four measures cosisoli dating these laws had since been poised, and one in that very Session? The Right Hon. Gentle man then expressed his decided dissent from the Resolution which stated a certain inconvenience to follow from the authority exercised by the Trea sury over the Cummia.ione►s fur auditing the pub lie accounts, with regard to all articles of ac count, whether of allowance or surcharge; declar ed that the transacting of business in his own office, that of Paytnaster-Getteral, was conduct ed in the must simple and er a immic,tl way tt e could devise; asserted that the establishment for the current year cost but about 27,900/. which was o n ly three thousand more than the expellee of it in the year 1796, though there had :wets a vast increase of business in various ways. He should be sorry, however, to be supposed to say, that no saving in the collection of the revenue wait practi cable. To express such an opinion would ill he. come him, who wes one of a commission appointed to inquire into sources of ►etreuciimeut ; he thought otherwise, though he should not venture in what partieolar mean►. The House would recollect a Resolution had been passed by it, binding his Ma jesty's Ministers to carry retrenchment to the fur thest extent they could. Lord PAILMUSTWiI said, be. eboold embrace that . . `.~ opportunity of making a few observations Resolutions proposed by the Hon. Bart. and also to stair the Resolution that Government bird ['ozn e to respecting the half.pay officers. It was Ins in . !tuition to hare proposed a cause to he added to the Appropriation Act of the present tirsoom, to alter the torture of the oath such officers are at per. wit obliged to take on the receipt of their half. p a y ; but front a ttt i t conception as to the prope r time, and absence from town, he had Inst the op. portunity. „Rut en arrangement had been resolved on by the treasury, and to the individual s in terested the benefit would be the 'sine tui if hi s . intended chose 'had been made part of the l aw ' Instead Of the former oath the individual wou:if . henceforth be rimpsired to swear he did tict any military place, ace. Or employment under his Nlajesty, except ow the stall, in garrison*, or th r colonies, the proceeds of which, together wi t h half-paw. exceeded three times the half-pay of that office from which his claim was derived. if t h e claimant held a civil office, the oath would be, that the emoluments of it, with his half:pay, did not exceed four times the amount of the latter. lie certainly meant to propose a legislative measure o n the subject next Session. With respect to the Re solutions, he was sorry the Hon. Paronet had tint brought up his errors also, because he was sure they would have gone pari paint with the former. The Njble Lord then proceeded to point out several nits. takes and omissions, which he argued Sir H. had fallen into, respecting the Commander in Chief's office, and the establishment of Secretary at War—said it appeared, from one of the Reports of the Committee of Finance, that the examination of military accounts in arrear saved the country on an average eight thousand pounds a year—and lastly. tnaititained that the consolidation of the (Aces of Paymaster-General. Treasurer of the Navy, and Treasurer of the Ordnance, and the other couso. lidation recommended in the same Resolution, would put the country to ten times the expense these offices did separately, mid throw the business trans. acted at them into a chaos of confusion. Mr. CALCRAFT said, that notwithstandinz tte censures which came from the Treasury Ikne,,, always up in arms against any one that ventured to name economy, his Hon. Friend (Sir H. Parnell) was strongly entitled to the praise of the Hothe and the country. All the main and great facts Mtated in his Resolutions remained untouched by the Hight Hon. Gentleman or the Noble Lon!. The Noble Lord exulted very much at a blunder which he had charged his Hon. Friend with havi N made. What was that blunder? It was, that the salaries in the office of Commander-in-Chief, in 1793, amounted to 413/. instead of 2,0001. which was the fact. This was the sort of petty cavil which was raised against hi, Hon. Friend's Resolutions. His Majesty's Ministers gave the go-by to state ments which involved million!, and took great co:- dit to themselves because they had discovered trifling mistake made by his lion. Friend in a fo , hundred pounds. The Noble Lord triumphantly aimed that his office cost less now than it did iu 170. But his Hon. Friend had rendered this de. clarions° unnecessary, for he stated, in hi• ripeniro4 speech, that be had been led into an inadvert , iic , and with that fairness and candour, which no (;eo. demon ought to lose sight of, he acknowled4cd e mistake. The Noble Lod should however recol lects that though the business was managed by the Secretary at War, at an expense of 4,0001. a-year, there was a Commander-in-Chief', Department. which cost 14.0001. per annum, that ought to In: added to it. This was the true way of looking at the question. But Ministers disliked any thing that even had the appearance of approaching era. nomy—so much so, that, in their haste to get rid of this question, they hid lost their usual adroit. ness. tVliat his Hon. Friend said, could not he denied—namely, that there was au excessive ex penditure in all the departments of Government, and, if it were not reduced to a level with former peace establishments, sound and substantial reasons ought to be offered in support of such a course. Ministers exclaimed, " See what we have done, sod what we are about to do!" But he would call upon Parliament to look at the state of the country —at the distresses of the people—at the embarrassed situation of the resources of the empire.—( Hear.) — But, when the people requested relief, they were visited with additional taxation—and this covered those expenses which it was more pleasant for those who received a part of this 5,500,000/. per annum to incur, than to listen to or act upon any propo sition for retrenchment and economy, which Gentle men on that side of the House, in the conscientious discharge of their duty, might bring forward. On e of the Gentlemen opposite had said, " Have not Ministers given you a resolution having economy fur its object ?" Certainly they had. But what had they given to the country besides ? Nothing but extravagance and prolusion.—(Hear, hear.) — That Resolution was brought in, at the heel of the Session, and he expected very little benefit from it. He thought very little, if any thing, of this paper kite of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. They were, he supposed, expected to gaze at it, while the tax-gatherers thrust their hands into the pockets of the people.—( Hear, hear.)-51uch was said about this Resolution—but what good had flowed from it ? It was printed and circulated, and there the matter rested, Sir B. MARTIN said. that much of the expend'- titre which the Hon. Baronet had remarked on, a, exceeding that of former years, could very easily he explained. The Resolutions set forth— That the establishment of the Navy Pay Office was fixed by au Order of Council, dated 911 s Oc tober, 1789, at, exclusive of the salary to the t' Try of the Navy . . 9,128. Thai the anon voted for salaries and coutiugeucies for this office, in the yilsr 1819, is 37,839 That the establishment of the Navy Office amount ed to— la the year 1796 In the year 1819, the sum voted is Now it was necessary to observe, that most on. portant duties had, by Act of Parliamen*, been added to those which were formerly attached to this office. These duties arose, first, front the al lotment system, by which , seamen were enabled to appropriate part of their pay to the support of their families. This occasioned a constant recurrence to accounts. and rendered it necessary to keep up a correspondence with every town in the kingdom. Another canoe of additional labour was the Act which enabled officers. of every description. to call. quarterly, for a portion of their pay. It was etay to contrive the difficulties which these too stet►