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; the people than they ovbt "11. • This f,, * weapon in the hands of C. • l* I:e.:tht, atut ft . !eft iv they will obtain possessim , :1 1 ,- taiint-y. I!' 14.,i r hare no way to check it but • ...... ~'4 01011! . Ar.1..,:e ciliate the people, it will fr' i tr.! 4110 M. 1.11 6 ••••: their members so mach attlertty ettcl lest. yr , ..• their object. The Noble Titt-anit Itte.l v,1.1 bre could interfere in this case &tate, a tier Ileutit e ~,., people, withuut adding leis weigh% to the .!...e.• thought that greater weight sena vciv , se . 1.1 1 ... who require that prostration or nude , -fl ..' tr- . nisters of the Prince Regent, alma dr, i,,, .... of the right of Englishmen, ' , At or fe...,.i.,. no virtues shall save a Nob! •uriii from i'..• iiec v kliog to the general tlireontk‘rct by living :,, . ferent from that which Ministers it krtaim It I 1, t .!fl 21.1 j to the discontent, who v•atetteaw hots tile '• • • e the benefit of the admiration -ml ClfrelS is itl:'•:• - '• •• i Nobleman is liclil by the peonl.. nod Cerise: .:14114; nis the Advantages which his example 'Riffled+. The Earl of Ltornstont. rte , !re oluinie the Rea-t7fotent. He would not eater into the s ~.-ei tires l i V,.,.,. He rested upon one cirrunistsii ... wi,i , ls a stood sucoatiadicterl. He de.fi, ~,,. se , ; , a a the present, in which a Pa instituted. : • ~, There was one i.i 1 two years ago, but the groe:-.1. I. re I, WWI me.st to the present case. The pre- i., e‘• .4 3 •, .• o f an in. jury sustained by certain ir.::v..:ie i! . ,•, 3,1 act that was passed. The case that ocean:. 11.1 i , -e , rev, • ../..c.l avo was that of certain papers laii tit Cry.. the !I iiew ' as evi dence of some great public 0,- , ..!r er*.h w. c:, the win try was threatened, and an ITV --s i• diluted, w:th a view to avert it, and adopt measures f.- ioo public safety. The inquiry demanded would have Sl eifeet of suspending all t h e rocse d i ors connected with the case now before the legal tribunals of the country; hot the House could not suspend the whole administration of the laws to snake these mat. Ws a whirr' of Parliamentary inqairy. The Noble Earl had put much stress on the Answer of his Royal Highness the Prince Regent to the City of London, that they were not acquainted with all the circum stances relative to the Nlanchester businesis, there fore were not competent to give an opinion. • He contended that the Answer of the Prince Regent was the proper one. But take the meeting at Mats. cheater as it was, he had no hesitation in saying that it was SI seditious meeting ; he would go fur , ther, and say it was a treasouable meeting. When twenty thousand men met, and part of them armed, it could not be for any lawful purpose, end was sufficient to strike terror into the loyal inhabitants of Manchester, and call for the *niters lerence of the Magistrates, whose duty it was to disperse them. The Magistrates had no notion that the meeting of the 16th was illegal, until they found 5 or 6,000 men marching iota the town in military array. He was far front being of opinion, hut that the number of disaffected in the country were greatly overbalanced by the well affected; but all Revolutions had hitherto been brought about by the fears of the loyal, and where there had been sulfivient to create terror in the loyal iii 'toe county, it might soon spread over the remaining counties. Ile would tell their Lordships the be nefit of their being summoned there was to support the loyal, and to 'hew the Magistrates that it was their determination to support them in the perform ance of their duties. The Marquis of LANSDOWN explained. The Earl of CAHN.% tIVON said, he rote to support the amendment of his Noble Friend, for if the Ad dress which was moved by the Noble Earl opposite was carried, when he considered the agitated state of the country, and the disturbances which had taken place, that the hands of Parliament would lie lied up, and that they should have no measures but those of the Ministers, the principal safety of the bulwark of the subject was broken into alien the Prince Regent was made to give his un qualified thanks, not only to the Magistrates of :Manchester, but to the yeomanry, aud at the same time all inqinry denied to Parliament. Ile would ask, whether from the conduct of the Alinisters themselves, whether the liberty of the subject was not gone when they advised their So. vereign to give his thanks to every officer and soldier who acted on that unfortunate day ? lle was at a loss • to know how his Majesty's Ministers could call the meeting at 'Manchester seditious, when, at the same lime they winked at similar meetings, under their I own eye, with what grace did they come down to 1 Parliament, stud say, the law of the land is weak, 1 and ask of ynur Lordships for new powers, when they had never availed themselves of the law as it stood ? What situation did they stand in ? He would tell them, as necessaries after the fact. Why had they slept at their posts, when irreligion was going forth, and only in one or two instances at. tempted to stop blasphemy ? They allowed die evil to go forth mail it was not to be restrained, and no longer containable. If they ever could have found a man to have vented their vengeance on, his Noble Friend (Earl Fitzwilliam) ought to be the last ; if they had forgot their respect to him, they ought not to have forgotten it to their Sovereign. What bad his Noble Friend door? The lower order of peo ple had taken themselves away from those they were its the habits of looking up to for advice ; he met them, and told them to rely on Parliament as their forefathers had done, as they had but one common interest whatever their situations in life might be. The Radicals went to the meeting with their flags flying, and with an opinion that the Pediment ought to he overturned, and they left it with gratitude for the wholesome advice they lied received, and satisfied that that Parliament, which they would have destroyed, was the oily legitimate source to look to fur relief. But what use did Ministers make of this meeting at York -1 shire ? they made it an excuse to add twelve regiments to the military force of the country. On • 1 these grounds he w ou ld su pp or t th e A men d m e n t. The Marquis of BUCKINGHAM said, at that late hour of the night lie would detain their Lordships I.t ;.• ‘‘. ~. ~ ~ .1 sog •ftr. .011unona, sktl4 Irnw • east like ~• ry w.tM rwy :a•te that but a few moment•, and he would not have tre.2.- poised on them, if he could conscientiomly have given a silent vote. As to the business at Manche,. ter, he would give no opinion, as the tribunals of te e country were still ()Iwo to try that question. Ile was nut to he misled by the statements in tavtiur of the Address, or those in support of the Amendment, but lie wan convinced there was not one amongst their Lordship* who did not took oti the meetings that had taken place as the com mencement of a revolution. Religion was assailed ill entry point, and were they to pative before they sought a remedy for the evil ? 'Hail they not seen public officers threatened fur performing their duty. and tneetings purporting to beifor the purpose of petitioning the Crown, when in reality they were meetings to overturn the Clover 1111 l ent ? He would then say, ruck meetings amounted to u breach of the peace, and it was the duty of the nig:Austen to mi l lirem them. Ile wished it to be understood, that iii any thing be lied said, that lie did tint allude to the business at Manchester. leis Lord.:.ip, for the reasons he had given, would twte for till Address. Their I.wrdplnps then divided on the Amend ment, when there appeared— Contents Proxies 34 Non C.intents Proxies —159 Lout by a 5Ni - wily of The Address was than cornea without a divi , tion. Adjourned tit a quarter past twelve o'clock until to-morrow (this day ) MOUSE OF COMMONS, TUMMY, Novnieta 113. The Members began to assemble about one •'clock. ' At twenty minutev before two, when a considers ble number were present, the SPEAKRII entered, and took his •eat at the table, and in a very few mi nutes after Sir Thomas Tyrwhitt, the Gentleman Usher of the flack Rod, appeared in the [louse, mid commanded its attendance in the usnal form at the Rouse of Peers, to hear the Prince Regent') Spree h delivered. During the absence of the SPEAKER. we observed that alino.t ever• place on the back britches of the Ministerial side, had pieces of paper affixed to tie note their having been token by different Members. A number of seats appeared appropriated on the Opposition side also. A quarter of an hour before four o'clock the SPEAKER returned, end took the Chair. The attendance of Members was greater than we almost ever witnessed on a similar ovens' . Among them appeared several of the leading men on both sides of the House. NEW WRITS. The See acquainted the House, that dirrinz the recess, in proauance of the Act of Parliament made in that Ishalf. he ha.l itinted his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown in Ireland, to make out a new writ for the election of ■ new Knight to serve in the present Parliament, in the room of Sir Thomas Fethersione, Ba►t. deceased; and also to the Clerk of the Crown in Great Britain, for the election of a new Knight to serve in Parliament for the County of Kent, in the the election of a new Knight fur the County of Herta, in the room of the Hon. Thomas Brand, translated to the Upper House, under the title of Baron Deere. And that he had also issued his warrant to the Commissioners of litoromths fur Scotland, to make out a new writ for the County of Kin rwor, in the room of Thomas Graham, Esq. deceased. And that he had issued warrants for the election of Cotizens fur Hereford (in the 000000 we believe, of Colonel Symonds) ; and for Chichrstsr, in the room of the Earl of March, translated to the Upper House, under the title of Duke of Richmond ; and for the election of Burgesses for Arundel, in the room of Sir Arthur Piggott, Ent. deceased; and fur Banbury, io the room of the Hon. F. S. N. Douglas, deceased. At the request of the Sramtea, a great number of Mem bers then took the oaths and their seats. The question was then put and carried, that the &MUSE YR should issue his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown, to make out a new Writ fur the City of Peterborough, in the room of the Hon. W. Lamb, who had accepted the office of the Chiltern Hundreds. CLANDESTINE OUTLAWRY. ADDRESS. Mr. CUST seconded the Address. - - The Clandestine Outlawry Bill was then, according to ancient custom, read three times, and passed. After • • The SPEAKER said, he had to acquaint the (louse, that the House had been to the House of Peers, where they bad heard his Royal flightlevy the Prince Regent, acting in the name and on the belia:f of his Majesty, deliver front the Throne a Speech to both llou,es of Parliament, of which, to Frevelit mistakes, he had procured a copy, and which he should real, with the permission of the [louse. The Speech was then recd—(for which see Lords.) Mr. J. S. COCKS then rose to propose the Ad dress, which merely echoed the sentiments of the Speech. . . . The question was then put from the Chair, when Mr. TIERNEY rose, and spoke nearly as follows: —" Mr. Speaker—ln the ordinary manner in which Addresses to the Throne are proposed in this House, I know it is not customary to take the opportunity of canvassing their topics, or proposing any amend ment to the original motion, unless something shall he contained iu the Address which pledges the House to a course on which it is Hot prepared at first sight to commit itself. In the present Speech from the Throne there are some points with which I can find no fault—the Speech, indeed, guards against our being committed without inquiry, for we are expresis:y informed that the papers contain ing the information which is to be explanatory of the state of the country are to be laid before us— but the Address is silent upon other topics, and however painful to my feelings to pros pose an amendment, I ca t do otherwise in the present state of the c 1111 l itry—a state which makes it imperative upon every man honestly and boldly, in the Ike of the country, to stale his sentiments. I am aware how inconvenient this mode is by some considered of discussing to pica which may hereafter he debated with equal effect; but I repeat the state if the country is such that not a moment should be lost by any Member of Parliament in openly, fairly, and fully stating his opinions in the face of his constituents and the country—not indeed by way of echo to the Speech we have this day heard, bat by declaring the real feelings by which we are actuated in the present state of the country. No man csu Gel more deep. ly than I do that lamentable state—no man can have more abhorrence than I have for the blasphe mous doctrines that have been promulgated in the couutry—doctrines which happily the laws of tire land have been found fully sufficient to punish as they deserved. The gi nerd! character of my life for bids the possibility of any doubting the sin cere abhorrence with which I view such blasphemous and impious publications—/Hear)—and that my on ly consolation on the occasion is one which, happily for tire well-being of the community, I hold in corn• mini with the great hulk of society—that for the evil which prevails the law affords an adequate re ntedy.—lllear, hear.)—But I do not believe that tints spirit of impiety has spread so widely among the people us has been said. I have seen much of the people of this and of oilier countries, and I be. hear in my heart, and us the result of my own ac trial ob►ervation, that in Mb other country in Enrols csu there be found more true devotion to God and religion, titan is to be met with in this country. If I wanted any additional proof of the prevalence of this true and essential feeling among the pen. pie. what better instance could I furnish than that which we witnessed within the last twelve mouths, the very period when these impious and profane doctrines are said to have found such an ungluing nullifier of disciples? Was it not within that very perio.l we were told, and from the highest authority. that Christian congregations had become so large and extenstve, that the teal-tient places of wor ship were iseadegniete to afford them the accommo. it tion reggigire.l for their worship, midi that it cis necessary to erect new ones in various parts of the country ?—(Hear, hear.)—ls it at such a time, and node' such circuinstaners, that the people of this country are to he told that iiilidelity hiss bikers deep root among them ? It; however, it shall ap pear that impiety does stalk widely abroad, I shall be as ready us any man to agree to the enactment of new laws in aid of the old ones, fur the e ,,pp res .. Sion amid) all evil. But litre lam that so far as the law has been applied, it has answered its lauda hie and necessary• purpose, mid that the hottest and Christian feelings of succes.ive juries have, whenever capes came under their cognizance, put down the daring authors of the impiety and blasphemy.— With respect to the other part of the Speech, which relates to the disaffection, or, as some rail it, the treason which is to be found, not in the country generally, but happily only in some of the manu facturing districts of it, much of serious re &climb may arise. But if disaffection and treason shall be any where found, mid that the present laws can be proved inadequate to its detection 1111(1 punishment, then again 1 say, let others and more effectual ogees be enacted. Let us first hear what ►s the crime, and where and by whom was it committed, and then what steps have been taken to apply and ad minister the existing laws to extinguish the evil. I may be wrong when I think the existing laws, if vigilantly administered by them igi , tracy and con stituted authorities, are strong enough to preserve the peace and tranquillity of the country—l may be wrong when I think, that, if flrady, f.irly, and equally administered by the Government, they are enough for all legitimate purposes; lint I cannot he wrong when I assert that the main st►env,th of these law', their general efficacy t depend on the thorough conviction which the people have of their necessity, and the equality of their ailiiiiiii.tra tioir among all racks of Ills Majesty's subjects..._ In vain will you enact new laws. in vain will you arm your old laws with new terrors, in vain can you expect to put down the people by the face and vigour of your enactments, mile,s you call first convince them of their justice, and, above all, command their conviction of their necessity and their impartiality.—( Hear, hear.)—Bat why are we to seek for the sole cause of the present state of the country he the machinations of the evil-dis posed and the seditious? Have you not heard of the complaints, the general complaints, from day to day, of the pressure of taxation ?—(Hear.)-- I always wished on the day whelk this House was so lavish of its expenditure, to impress 1110)11 you a belief, that great as are our national resources, they were outstripped by the atiticipations of Ministers, and were not as inexhaustible as these Mi nisters would have had you believe. When I made these predictions, I was called almost an enemy to social order—when I ventured to interpose between you and the millions upon millions of the public money which were so profusely disposed of, I was overruled and defeated. I now appeal to soli, whether the real cause of our present distress is not to he traced to the lavish profusion of the late war ? —ln vain can we conceal the real root of the evil— from it has grown up this pressure of taxation— (Hear)—a pressure which the country cannot bear. The Government &tetra from the people more than the people can give, consistently with their own comforts and subsistence. They cannot support the imposition of those taxes. I know the difficulty I must endure in making Gentlemen opposite believe this, yet it ise nevertheless, u fact against which they cannot shut their eyes—against which the country never can cease to raise its loudest voice. There is also an expression, which, if it were any where else but in the Royal Speech, I would pronounce a miserable and pitiful hoax upon the credulity of the country•—l tnemi that part which says, r Although the re venue has undergone some fluctuation since the close of the last Session of Pailiatntiit, I have the satisfac tion of being able to inform you, that it appears to he again in a course of progressive improvement.' This was a miserable attempt to hold out a hope of general and permanent improvement from a tem porary rise, and they who made the statement knew this to be the fret, and that this rise was occasioned by some trick or device—.a practice of old date with the present Ministers.— When Parliament met, tile revenue was generally getting up—but soon after it was prorogued, things found their own level, and down went the revenue again. —(4 laugh, and Heur, hear.)—Only nine ' months have now elapsed since we were gravely congratulated upon the undeniable fact (as it was termed) that the trade, commerce, and manufac tures of the country, were in u flourishing stare.— The Ministers at the tune could not have believed I this statement—they ought nut to have put it into the mouth of their Sovereign—nor ought his Royal Highness, after having heard it, and seen how the fact subsequently differed from the assertion. place any longer implicit confidence in statetneuts made to him from such a quarter upon subjects of finance. In their opinions (die Ministers) matters would go rtit well. How was the fact ? They be. came worse. But this worse, say they. is only a fluctuation.' It was yet a fluctuation that must prove ruinous to the country.—(Hear, hear.)—The real fart is, that trade never was at any preceding period in such a state of general stagnation as it is now in this country. It is said that this depession is in a great inetosure to be ascribed to the embar- I situation of other countries. This, to a car. tarn extent, tnay be true: the depression in the commerce of other states cannot, of course, but affect the state of our own. Bat ask the mer. chant, dill he ever know anvil an utter waut of commerce ? He will tell you that lie never (lid, and he will mainly attribute it to other causes than those of mere external existence. Ask the manu facturer, and you will receive the same answer ; ask the agriculturalist, and lie will reply that he final have a protecting duty to remunerate him ; ape the labourer, and he will tell you his wages afford hien bat an insufficient subsistence, and that he is compelled to resort to the eoor Laws fur the re. :-- mainder—laws which, in addition to other fatal ef fects, have gone filet towards altering the .oharacter of the great mass of the people of this country, and have turned aside all those :honest feelings of inde penderice which were heretofore not only the pride, hut the great characteristic of Engfish:nem—(/'tear, hoar.) After this. do you want plots or treas.:oils to account tor the existence of the Ili:affect• that prevails ? I hope that disaffection dors not estu•t Io any great degree anome the bulk of the people. I believe that their disaffectiou springs from the ab ject state of distress mod wretched teas into which 40 many of them are unhappily stink. The suite of the ct 1111 l try, I admit, is alartiiiiig ; I sins an ha an alarmti•t, but not to the cause iu whi c h Minis ter, would wish Inc to be. I ion deeply alarmed at the spirit I see prevail—l feel as much as any man can for the general situation of the people—hut I cannot shut my eyes to whit I think is the real sod the sole cause of the existing state of things. I may, in declaring my sentiments, draw upon my self both calumny and clamour; but my firm con viction is, that the people have out the confidence we could wish them to have in the character of the House of Commons.—(Hear, hrur.) 7 -This is not the opinion which pervades that ►et of people who have a name for even• thing—l wren the Borlicals, NB they ore called; b u t it is that which pervades the middhuK classes of satiety, and many others, who see the violent party out of doors :is I do, and who hold in thorough contempt their wild and ►themes of Reform.—( /tear, hear.)—The chimes to whom I allude see tool feel that there is something wrong iu the present state of the country—they naturally ask themselves—ll ave we not confided oar otilirs into the hands of our Mini.- ten ?—Have we ever refused Government the means of carrying on and giving effect to their own views of public affairs ?—Have we ever refused them any supplies they called For—any money or troops they wanted ?—have we been ever backward in Sc. cerliog to any of their requisitions for new laws or other measures which they on their responsibility declared neceseary fur the safety of the country ? How cornea it then that we find ourselves iii this situation?—How is it that we have to endure this stagnation of trade at home, and this titter want of foreign commerce ? We naturally ask yon, who brought us into this condition, the cause of our present distress, and what is Inure strange than till, we ask you how you can, after the experience we have hail of you. come forward and demand it still furtherextensom of oti r confidence ?—(Hear, hear.) These are the opinions and (resin:no of 'lumber less respectable classes in the inivate walks of life, and who think of Parliamentary Reform in a proper and practical sense—of that reform which has been working onwards for years, and who know not by theory, but by con-taut observation of the practice, that there is in effect no identity between the feel. Mg. of the Representatives in this House mid their constituents, or the bulk of the people without. On the subject of Parliamentary Reform, I should belie the whole t e l l er of toy life if I was not a sincere friend to it—and I thank the Hon. Mover of the Address. for the fairness and candour with which he drew a line of distinction between my opiniatis and those who think with me on the question of Re form, and those of certain persons out of doors. With the same frankness and candour I will tell that Hon. Member, that if I were asked whether my opinions on the subject of Parliamentary Re form have undergone any clien4e since a former period, when I advocated them, I have us little he sitation in avowing that they have. I will not say that as 1 grew older I grew wiser—but I became less sanguine and more cautions. In the ardour of youth I was attached to many schemes which I have now, in maturer life, abandoned. But to say that many changes are iiecesseiry—that the respect. able and thinking part of the country are persuaded of this necessity—that great changes and alterations may not be made, not only without hazard to the constitution, but with safety to it, by throwing fresh safeguard* around it—l son now as ready to say this as I was at the most sanguine period of my life.—( Hear, hear, hear.)—Parliamentary Re form was first brought under the consideration of this House during the American war. it was pro- posed by Mr. Pitt, whose great abilities and station in she country gave it great importance, ■nd made it the subject of general inquiry einong the coin. munity. But the people now saw the question in a practical sense, and I must say that from the ex perience, the palpable experience they have had, I do not think their request of a rational Reform un reasonable.—(Hear.)—This Hover is blamed by the people. We tire the guardians of the public purse, and if we misuse it, are they not entitled to coin plain to us of the abuse, and to hold us responsible who have committed it? Are we not the grand inquest of the nation, and if any thing shall appear to the people wrong in the conduct of the mars traey, are we not to blame, if on their part we do not institute an inquiry ?—( Near, hear.) —1 know that there is a price which we must pay for the possession and enjoyment of the noblest Con stitution that was ever devised for the good of a people. Our Constitution consists of three branches, two of which are in their nature fixed ; mid the third branch, which is ours, must, from its composition, be fluctuating. It must ever remain so unless we can form an obstruct idea of rewriter:. tation. Therefore we must ever he prepared discussions upon such a question as Perharneotary Reform, according to the course of events, the prat. hive and conduct of Parliament, and the feelings of the people. Long discussions must occasionally arise upon these topics ; these moat often tend to gond, and to a revision of old abuses—very unfortunately they must also (as is now in some quarters the fact) have a terideitcy of a different kind. I own I inn astonished sr sonic of the strange notinits that find advocate., but because such things exist, I am not therefore to overlook real erten:levet. I am es much an enemy to this radical party as any man who hears me; I have us much contempt for their under. standing, dislike for their p►ocerdings, and jealousy for their object., is any man can Mar.—(blear, hear.)—l am free to admit that they (or at least some of them) Inver, availed iheinselves of• the (Im mune for Pal liamentary Reform out of doors to do that w .cb all good men must regret ; but I do not, therefore, mix them op in one general sweep rag renamre of condemnation. There art, I Iwtirve, Rome airflow them, who are bunnelleJ by an excess of vanity, to move Aunt as ~at popular leatiem Time are others who net without object, who act from a mere paucity of intel lect, sad who. I belies, are nut capable of comptebeadieg • any owe word Slay utter. There are also ethers, who so heullontr, *Wield eating where they more who move for mischief sake, r destruction they could by posaibility Mover hoped. that I would, fur the sake the broad tine of thminction between mar epinoms at thi. side of the House, of those parties to whom lie alluded. I 'shall do this shore hoard, and against all the leader• ..f these radicals. I shah draw the line pretty ol..itily, mid if I do nor go a little further in doing so, it is toe item the trials of some of them are impending, stet I on that accuirit widi to he forbearing. To du justice to the radicals, the y have dent, mint the most imparted favon.e to ll:likens, and tip iis their opponents. Thee have attacked Ile almietere for Irving in 'Are; and we, who me not iliere, leer receiv e d our share of reprobation fur a kind cif pr.vt obit oilier • f felice—fa laugh)—so that we are at hull, aid. a ono y nearly equal in the confidence of the radicals : aiml I a.'. thoroughly convinced that had not the vie rice abuse ..f the two been ; ed upon our stile, the Nlinisters cut hare put them down as they hail done. The Sliiii.te • s for this, nu doubt, claimed of sus sumo iii b nte for Ism. it partiality, mid some little compll in•nl for the kitidon.. of their motive —(A forigki—Bot my chief object in ri.i a g was to state what I believe to be the general epinion t':e country—it is, I repeat, a want of confirtenee in this House, from practical observation of ha rue eedlogo, dor. log a Mora! of Inure than twenty years. I do not he. lieve that the crest hulk of the people look fireside fur •isiouaiy distress; I do smut believe that they will , he found advocates for the dietritie of mined Par. % batmen's., unmet's! suffrage, and elective by ha 1100.... A contrary opinion I know is carefully circulated-1 mk. ray , its prom telgators at those meetings, of bundreila lif thous ie different parts of the country. My reply is, in Ile brat place, I 110 not believe the members hi he as they 'mire heel stated. But suppose they were as great as they have been described at any particular spot—dors any man helm. We that when he hears of fresh timelier* in iliffereol places, they consist of fresh groupes—the feet is otherwise—he 011111 look al the movements of these smetings, as he does at the pere grinations of a company of strolling players—they perform in one place one day, and the scene shifts to another the next —(Load laughtetr.)—So it is with the Radical.; if they get a meeting of 40,000, they endeavour to move it abut front place to place; you have the same aroma, lie rime Saes, the same resolve —of eoumse, each toast • here the performance of the day is fixed, rumbaed its little addition of the local idlers or the curious, to whom tt.e novelty ass looming; but the leaders, the chief mowing body wire the alone, though with occasional changes of residenee Notwithstanding what has been said, I am fully peroliaded that not one.liftieth part of the crowds computing ,Lose meetings have any identity with the acts or 'minims that emanate as if from them. The schemes of their leaders are, in fact, held either in contempt or amazement. What Gill the House, for instance, think °file condect of nn Hoe. Ba. tenet, • very good sort of man, I am willing to believe. in his private life (we presume Sir C. Weilseley), who could gu to Birmingham, not to be elected as • Meador of Parliameet, for that would be too odious • name, but • Legislatorial Attor ney—as such be was elected and empowered to take his seat among us. I am glad, for his own sake, that he yarded his seat, or at least that he disobeyed the order of he coo. ▪ teems, who authorised him to come here and lake it, fir sere I min, that if the worthy Baronet had obroed Owir call, it would have been fur himself the meat inconvenient scat in which he had ever attempted to sit in the whole Mitre of his life —(Loweelefee.)—Tr use it was, that the worthy Baronet's contihsents were moderate enough to elect brit one Legislate. rial Attorney. On the same rule of proceeding, however, they might have elected ten—there could be no tool to their pea. ferments. The ridicele and indifference with v bele th. se events have been viewed by the public at large, satisfies me that there needs no alarm about the strenelb of the Raileals. As I said before, I confess however, that I am not without alarm—but it is one which livings from a rely difTeieut quarter, and one which is, I think, greater than I could hnie had, hail I lived at any former period of our history. I hare expressed my astonishment respecting the Rallicale—let ate now say a word or two respecting those who act upon the op. posit, extreme, and who contend teeniest all 'ditties IN Melia/. Let me particularly address myself to a Right Hoe. Geode man opposite, who is of this way of thinking (die allusion was understood to apply to Mr. Canning); he seems to over look the variation of times and circumetanrea, and their in evitable influence upon the condition of heinous irffaics. He dues not [eke into his consideration the different., between the state of education anion the people now, and that riledh existed thirty or forty yeses ago. Our proceedings were then sent forth to the world in a sort of nimorious with Roman name, anti supposititious cases. They were wow given in plain terms, and with the addition of real dia. meters. In the former period, few read and fewer understood those publications; in the present there existed, as com pared in the former, an increase of at least 'hire to ore of the people at large, who were capable, or who thought themselves so, of examining, eiftine, and canvassing one acts. If you mean to avail yourselves of the isicalemishbr advantages which spring from this more general diffnsion o f education, you mast prepare to meet the criticism of this more extended portion of the educated public. The come Which would have been secure foe you thirty or forty yearn ago, is now very differest in its appearance. He who rays that all is wise that has heretofore *Nixed, mud prepare himself to find men at the corner of m very oteeet, capable of confoundiag him to utter shame fur uttering such • doctrine, and by argument. cogent and irresistible. This is the new spirit which we most take it into one among' to meet. If you think you can bre , kit down by strong measures, that you can disperse it by -1u- Ingo% that you can successfully meet it by an angel. nu:on:be viper military force, that you ear confute it by loath ad. the atimy that you as curb the progress of reason anion: an whemiled people, because you prestime to affirm it is wirier a t the bred of a military force—if you Batter yourselves yen cis attempt this, and with any probability of seeress, believe me you will be treading upon perilous ground, you wilt be exasperating the already heated feelings of the country against you, and plunging alike toward** crisis doubtful in its nature and character, and dreadful in ifs enestivienci le In this state of thinge,with angry feelings on the one stile, aid the intrudnetion of idle and visionary schemes among a portion of the other, affairs were placed before the 11th of August last ; the events of that momeutoes day were wisely, mud with good sense, overlooked by the Hon. Mover of the. A.I. dress—he would not suffer himself to be Made the mouth. piece of the Treasury in dwelling upon the sceues of that ~ day, which must be looked upon as the moat eves/aft*, t we have seen lit modem times.—(Hear, Sear, Before that day the meetings of the people were as Lalgullhoe described them. Sieve that their character has bereave eme . tired) , altered; they have proceeded epos • new and a Eno._ nientuessabject of complaint arising out of the events of the[ day. With this complaint meetings have spread from one end of the kingdom to the other. It is with refetemeeM, this particular affair that I state myself to lie under 4111 painful neeemity of proposing an auscultative'. I say lea m. tint consent to an. Address which omits roliciag that armee, which is precisely theme of all others that I think ought to have been alluded to in it.—(Cries of hoer, kew., kror.)— I am not nt all disposed on the prevent ocessiens to go into the details of the occurrences of that day. Illy sole object is to vet all the authentic information we call them, as well to justify the Magishotes as to satisfy the people..—(Hear, hear )—I mean to pronoun,' Imo opinion upon the meter; all I require is, that we shall have aim iin ntediate explanation respecting it. If mar there w a in occurrence that reeptired this temiliediate tap' inalbisir surely this is exactly that oecorreme.—(Hear, find a multitude, admitted to be tmartiarel, mane soy hl oit settees 40,000, some say less, while others swell Ilse automat ti, 70,000, hat ISO matter whet thew numbers actuelly meet, we find them suddenly attacked by • mallet) , loran—we find that theconeequence of ibis attack was the loss ( loom o f their limo, and the mainsing of teeny handy de Shorty hart• in; the case thus far, did it not loudly rah for inquiry Ido not say also was in llseright, or who in the wrong, MOM Han rhestre business. lam ready to make great aliowom es for the alarms of permit's of prepesey amid the disturbed state of their manufeeterigig eistioilies, fee the jealousy that, 1114111 a variety ammo% unhappily subsisted hemps flay blether and leer claims le particular platers. lam rawly to do all this, but it is still enough fur me la Imam, that blood has been shed, end limbs bowline of aura s wapiti, a crd children it, •n smarmed smelaiartle—l say lismt reausla for tsse ta justify my call for itatusesliala irgukry. I aus told a strong cue eau be made eet-4or du credit a ibe Magistraejr, • — 'qlide-r —*4 '""r" ey are mt. and of C4111,1* and for a set amble is suy bility effro . The Hues. I. sake of the