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. y •rl9. tii•*t iif ii)ese ilecl:sre?— 'eat of illicit distillery, and for its suppression Mr. Reresford, himself of that province, and who coulal have bad at least no prejud.ce against tkit virt of the country, devised the townland fisting system. Ile lam it was introduced in 183. and for the lad thirty-six vests it has been the law of the laud, with Ilw exception of three yeah roily, vie. from 1811 to 1813, dosing which pirital it was lies? suaperoled. ::tai lirltlW3llllll repealed. lint tints hey anspeissioss fur three three )errs, and the consequences of ire furnish the irtriuNtest possible argument agaierat the I re., nt. tues.sire. for 11w great 'nervosa of illicit made the revival of the former sylorm lit reaviny in 1813, and it was accordingly re-concord 0.5 that year, noon the Report of a Committee of Ihroilirr [Jamie, idler a full investig Ands, rind the "tittr.! i•riaeni•et Suit *Wadi Report is givers in the 6.110 a tug word's, Extract horn the Report or the Committee of the Drinse or C.. ismunr, appnisite. l in 1813, to inquire out) the causes of illicit distillation, which, it was *Oleo. d . bad taken place in consequence of the system haying been übanduned mbar., three vent. ti t l;,re. And time Committee hrg trite to elate, that it always or 11 us, ilea thr practice of illicit di4tillation hits increased y much since the ausprositou and r. peal of Slur laws, fly ...lack mars were imposed uu the simulaeds and ranters, to n6i! 11 illr e at, or parts of atilla, and wants ur piii•ale.. MI re used or found ; and the effect of these 14w*, while is to sonnies in a great th g rie, illicit di,- tiltatiola In hut to its oat; investigations, the opinion of that Committee, of 11w expediency of retuning oasis, In the old towuland fining system, was for t.ficii, besides. by the concurrent trstituoutrsol some .eet3. respectable and important public bodies. who hail presented memorials to the Irish Chancellor of the Exchequer oboist the same time. 1 will read to tour 1.01i1:41111111 what these testimonies were. Estrada of Memorials to the ChariCellor of the Irish Exchequer, in iNloy and mime, 1813—the first 1 the principal Ilereliants and Dealers of Lots. duaiderry district, of %Inch a large portion of Done gal. including Euuisfwwro, forms a pint. The second from all the principal fllerchants of lir I fast. sod unanimously approved of by the Cham ber of Commerce Own.. . . The third him the principal Merchants and I), , tilt-rs in Drogheda. - _ " That the fines on towelling& hail the effect of suppress ilk: private distillation, fur at the time that salutary law was repealed, there was not then at wwk in this nrieldionrbouil any Ilona like the number of private distilleries that were in use alien the law was enacted—and the effects of its re. Mal have caused the great increase of private distillation ; wl.irli is fully proved by the want of permitted It isb distilled spirits in this city; there out befog now twenty gallons of I. gaily distilled whiskey in the posression of the numerous retailers in this district—nor has there been almost any brunch. late this part of .hr country for three years baek." . The terms of the Memo.isl of the Merchants of Belfast are these : - - - - " Antosog the various experiments which have, from time to time, loin had recourse to for the purpose of stipples'. bug illicit distillation in Ireland, the undersigned beg leave iespertfidly to stale, that, f the undeniable good egrets whirls it produced in this part of frelanil, none appeared lo them to he half so well calcnlatrd to aecortoolish that de sirable object, as levying Roca off .the tow islands where pri vate stills were found. While that salutary law was in froce, such was the check given to illicit distillation, that ' . ast quantities of rum 111111 corn spirits were permitted from Belfast into those district• where private distillation had most prevailed; and into which districts, lung lwfore that law was enacted, as well as since it was repealed, ►carve gallon of legally distilled spirits have found their way. " There was, no doubt, a great eatery rode against the inipoliey and injustice of lev)iug those fines, by some of the Vow planets, which bad been must heavily amerced ; but while the law provided, that, in the event of any inhabitant of the towoland giving the towessary information to detect the illegal distiller, such towislaud, of course, should be re ticle., f that Fine, the inhabitants of such !mention's had themselves alone to blame for Ilir heavy penalties to which btu y were subjected. Nor, indeed, until it again becomes Ws F lo males interest to detect and punish the illegal ills tirer, can is he expected that that illicit traffic will cease." The Memorial of the Merchants of Drogheda is in their words " Your Memorslists submit that no measures can be so effectual to prevent such frauds, as measures which would intake it the interest of those adjacent to the private distille ries to pee information against them, by fastening the eou %relocates of detection on ilw principal parties, and nut, ■s at present, on their poor hired instruments. " That the fines on the Windom& had the desired effect of very nearly suppressing illicit distillation, as, at the lime that salutary law was repealed, there was nut at wink one troth of the number of private distilleries that were in lise when the law was enacted, and the first disagreeable egress of the law haul nearly subsided when it was repealed" fluting ►tated one very resiwetahle member of the province of Ulster as the father of the fining system, I must not omit to remind your Lordships, tint it had do less strenuous a supporter in woollier equally respectable individual of the northern pro. elifce, Mr. John Foster, who had aineildril the law. anti 'insole it snore effectual when he was First Lord utilie Irish Treasury. Viten the filittig system was introduced again in Tsl3, the illicit distillation of spirits was found to have got to so great a height, that much increased had become Accessory, out the purl of the Exctse Board. The levying of these fines was ',- cord:ugly pursuer! with great inversive(' vigour, and "tit disseiniftrr A manifested by the small distillers, under provialoos to be delettottled 1 .1 Par liament." These recommendations of the Committee were duly carried into effect by the Board of Excise, j by the licensing of small stills, and permitting their spirits to be warehoused. Ili addition to these strong testimonies in favour of the continuance of this system, from the user limits and traders of dist province, more immedi ately affected by it, Null loin Parliament itself, I sun enabled to furnish your lordships with the most consiociog proofs. from public documents, which c.• t rte, that the system has been an efft , citial m e, In ceasing a grrat dr4lr;t4e of illicit distillation in those districts mo.t info, cted by that vice, and a vest increase and coomuniption of duty paid • spirits. The Returns In which I shall call your Lordships' attention, are founded upon a comparison of the 1 there years whilst the Honey system was under sus peristnii, amid Ilse three years immediately following its renewal. The first of these periods ending January, 1814—the second of them sth January, I• 1818. • - Total gallons of duty paid spirits consumed in the distrait 01 lAmilunderry, in the first of these Iwo periods - to the second period - • Total gallons of duly paid spirits permitted out of Loasatoodeiry district, in the second period 128,822 Total callous of spirits lees ived by permit, and letittly rwade in Vie district of Strabane, in 17,946 • 111,671 the first pet kid - In the second period Total gallons of spirits received by permit, and legally made in the iliatrict of Sligo, in ate fund period . 147,504 to the second period - 290,047 Total gallium of spirits legally made and charged with fluty its the several districts in the pro vince of Ulster, in the first period - . 598,439 In the mond period - 3,540,469 . - Total gallons of spirits legally permitted into the barony of Ennishowen, from the 5111 J anuary, 1817, to the 24th March, 1810 - 20,577 Total number of fines imposed un parishes and towalands its Ireland, fur illicit distillation, in 1814, the first scar after the revival of the fining system hi the last sear - 14.443 90,9111 3,564 120 And now, my Lords, have I not stated • suffi ciently strong case to thew the necessity of this townland fining system—have I not 'hewn how much it has contributed to the increase of the con. s%umptiou of duty-paid spirits—how much it has dune already towards the suppression of the private distillery—arid that it is in a certain progressive course entirely to effect that desirable object, so far as illegal Call be ever entirely extir pated, in districts of country, as those which have hitherto been its chief seats ? Indeed so strongly is the case made out, accord ing to my conception, in favour of the continuance of the old system, which the Bill now under your Lordships' consideration is intended to destroy, that I should find some difficulty in suggesting t myself on what possible grounds 11:e 'anent men• sure could lie defended by the Noble Earl, if I was not aware of what had been recently passing upon the subject in Parliament and elsewhere. %%then a great tract of country had been so long in the habitual practice of distilling spirits without the payment of any duty—when these practices had furnished to the peasant his chief occupation and principal support, and to the landlord and the par son the great fund from which they derived the payment of heavy rents and tithes, your Lordships will readily conceive with what a general principle of di►satisfaction and resistance amongst those of all ranks and degrees, in the districts to which I have alluded, any attempt must have been received which ventured to aim at the extinguishment of that system, by which so many appeared to be gainers, and by which the only losers were the honest dis tiller, who bud embarked a great capital in a fair trade, the public revenue, and the morals of the people. In the prosecution of this principle every possi ble attempts were made to prevent the levying of these fines—every embarrassment and obstruction thrown in the way of the officers of the Excise, and the person appointed for their collection—and com plaints were preferred to the Cointstissioners of the. Excise Board of the greatest oppression, and printed appeals. of more than ordinary violence. made to the public. Hut what has been the consequence and result of these appeals to the Board of Excise? A solemn in uiry owns the spot, for the purpose of which the rd had deputed one of its own members, who had entered into the most minute investigation upon oath, had dismissed the collector of still fines, who had iwen complained against, and the result of whose examiuusimis seemed to have given perfect satisliirtion. This inquily took place in 1816, and since that period, I know of no complaints made of any unju‘istiable severity is§ the levying of these fines; annul there has b►en, as 1 believe, hat one mo t tle memorial presented upon the subject since. fur the discontinuance of the townland fining sy st e an. In the absence then of any of ttaase facts or argu ments which one would expect the Ministers to continuance of this finis,g 44tens, hail had precisely the same effect upon the minds of Prince Regent' , Ministers as swots my omits Bur 'here i• another thing w the printed pro reednigs of this meeting to which I must cell your Lordships' attention, before I conclude the conside ration of this part of the subject—and it is :hat part of the speech of a Noble Friend of mine Oise Earl of Limerick), in which my Noble friend is made to say, " that he trusted that on this occlusion the Ministers would be guided by the incipient of those who ought to guide them on snhjects of Ideal 0000 ." In this sentiment I must decidedly differ with my Noble Friend. Though no mass can assent more completely than I Rill prepared to do, to the great respectability of the maternal, of wl►ich that meet ing war composed, I cannot subscribe to the pro. position, which would go to affirm, that those who may happen to have private interests of their own, distinct frasn, and at variance with, those of the public, in the continuance of certain practices de structive of the King's revenue, can or ought to be considered us the proper tribunal, to whose decision it ought to he left, whether their own individual interests, or those of the public, should hate the preference—in continuing or in abolishing the parti cular system in question... But, lily Lords, whatever little weight I may have attributed to this argument, it seedts to have worked a miracle in the conversion of Ministers ; for they appear to have at once retraced their steps, as if some new revelation had been upeeretl to them, and the Government now sees just cause to relin quish that system of law which has stood its ground, though assailed again mad again for the last thirty six years, with the interval of one suspension of three years only during the whole of that period 0r time. The Noble Earl in the blue ►ibband will ittform the House whit lies worked this miraculous change or pentiments in so short a time. Public fame, which is ton often a public liar, has talked of some embarrassing psrliamentary questions in the intermediate time—that the Minis terial forces had not been steady—and that some of the troops had even gone to the length of absenting themselves from muster upon an important occa sion. I state these rumours, not because it is pos. foible that I can have given credit to them, but in order to enable the Noble Earl to discredit them in the most effectual manner, by stating to the House the real grounds of the conversion of the Members. A great deal has been said about the severity of the system which this Bill goes to repeal. That it is unconstitutional in its principle—would not be borne in this coantry—and goes to punish theinno cent for the sins of the guilty. In answer to all these fine topics for declamation, I must candidly say, that I can discover nothing unconstitutional in the principle of these laws, till I can cease to look with respect and veneration at the insiitutions of Alfred himself, which make every individual of the tithing or hundred responsible fur the preservation of the peace therein—and if this should be too old a precedent for the taste of the present day, I can help them to one which took place no later than yesterday, in the Court of King's Bench, in which, under the statute of the 57th of the King, damages were recovered against the unotlending inhabitants of the hundred of Ossulston, for the destruction of property at the riots during the election for %Vestmiuster. And with respect to the severity of the process, I will not deny that it is severe and summary.. But is it not by the same summary process that the land lord recovers his rents—the clergy their tithes—the officers of the revenue the public taxes in many instances—and the high constable the grand jury cess ? and which of these remedies are those en lightened advocates for public abuses willing to give up ? To the remaining argument, that it is unjust to punish the innocent for the guilty, I must answer with candour, but without any intention of giving offence, from which I should wish most cautiously to abstain, that so far as relates to those districts in which the illicit distillery has so generally prevail ed, I do not know the individual who ought to be considered as innocent in the eye of the law. Will any man affect to say, or to believe, that if all the landlords in those districts in which the private dis tillery prevails, were to set their faces against its continuance, that there would not be •t once nn end to this great disgrace to the police of any well regulated community I Inasmuch, however, as half the expense only of the proposed establishment for the prevention of illicit distillery is to fall upon the guilty district, the other half becoming a charge upon the consolidated fund, to which the whole of the United Kingdom contributes alike—does not this altered system carry still further the principle of punishing the innocent for the guilty, by making the must distant parts of the United Kingdom con tribute alike forthe suppressionlof the illicit distiller in Ireland ? But if the penalties of the law are severe and they - properly directed_ agair sell jrp'slifiril in endenvouriont to lacer' pending discussion iii Parliament, wine a great diversity of opinion, and on whi here have of lisle taken a strong part 1 h Earl should br enabled to slate that ____ sentiment% to he in layout of the repeal of the old sr-teal. I shall certainly bow with joist respect to the opinion of a snarl, than whom the public has not a servant more aide or Mare deserving a its moll deuce, in a very rei.poirolile mid arduous situation. But tefore I canlil aettnieser iii such an nj ____ i o Hi, mud first endeavour to divest my mind of ail that I have peer learned during the r.iserse of not a short experience in the Pallier part or 'sly life, its the col lector's:m..l inasingesnent of the Irish revenue. It is impossible for site to enticiside, without tak ing some notice of Mr. Chichester, and of his ex traiirdiiisry publication. That Gentlentan is no doubt entitled to the greatest respect from the pro fession to which hr belong., and the family of which he is is member—but in so doing, I feel it only necessary for file to express a hope, that it is not under the sole and single authority pf the rev. Gentleman's book, that the Chancellor of the Exchequer has consented to abandon that principle which has been so long acted upon for the 'preven tion and .:! tof illicit distillation. The charges which he brings have been investigtsted before the proper tesliniial, and they are all now of nearly three ,years standing, without any thing re cent, mid but one memorial. In the shape of oh. servation or re i sly, I shall refrain from saYilig a sin gin word, satisfied as I am that time violence of the performance itself, and the 'spirit of indiscriminate invective in which the writer has Indulged, ought at least to have sufficiently disarmed it of any sort of effect. But if we are to have this altered system, let us have the whole of the measure at once, and udt a part of it only. The system of small stills, e - monly called the put system, was intended to have made a part of this measure. But thus far, at least, the Chancellor of the Exchequer appears to have skewit sonic sort of regard to the interests of that important body of men, the proprietors of the great stills in Ireland, to whom the faith of Parliament has beets so often pledged, but not always redeemed—and accordingly the other half of the measure is to be suffered to lie over till the next Session. upon • At all events, let me then beseech your Lord. ships not to separate from each other the two parts of the same mai:sure. Let them both wait alike fur discussioe till the next Session, ■nd whilst the Small Still Bill is slumbering in the other House, I trust that you will permit its companion to repose in your Lordships' House in like manner—in just consideration to the interests of the great distillers, and those of the revenue at the same time. Let sue once more remind your Lordships of the question with which you ere about to deal. In 1779, the amount of the produce of the distillery was 63,000/. only, payable by 1,152 individual., spread over the whole face of the kingdom. You have now a revenue of 1,175,0001., of which there are but thirty-six paymasters, and of these tweedy-four, or thereabouts, great capitalists, and in tlwir hands the duties must be perfectly safe. Is it under such circumstances as these that Ministers think that an entirely altered practice is necessary or admissible ? My motion therefore is, that this House du re solve itself into a Committee, to take this Bill into consideration this day three months. The Earl of ABERDEEN was not surprised at the incredulity of the Noble Earl, for to incredulity alone could he attribute the cunt' 111 l ance of such a system as this. Though long aware of the evils of this system, he was unaware of the extent to which they had been carried until he had had actual op portunities of observing them. 'file Noble Earl had alluded to the publication of a pamphlet (the Rev. Mr. Chichester's) which had exposed this sys tem. He (the Earl of Aberdeen) had made actual inquiries into the statements contained in that pamphlet, and he could assure their Lordships, that the result of those inquiries was the most incon trovertible proof of the truth and accuracy of the contenttof that publication. He could, from what lie bad ascertained himself, pledge his own veracity to the truth of most of its ostementiv.—(llear.)— There were other atrocities, of more recent date than that publication, which 'hewed the character of this law in its naked colours, and with all its atrocity. He should only mention one or two, and they rested on the most unequivocal authority. A poor infirm old man was arrested in the county of Donegal, whether guilty or innocent he could not sac, aunt probably inuocent, for the guilty gene rally esca ped.—(Hear.) —This pour old mats was told lie must be removed to Lifforil gaol. He pleaded his feebleness, his age, his incapacity to move to such a distance, hut he pleaded in vain, for lie was mercilessly dragged to Latina!, where in a few minutes after his arriial he actually expired almost in sight of the barbarous wretches who hail removed him !—( Hear.)--The other case to which he would allude was that of the arrival of some reve nue officers on the books of a lake, which they wished They hailed boat which -- • the but they furbished no precedent at all for this By those laws it was certainly made a mat. ter of general interest. to punish flagrant and d Mg outrages. and bold the township its o. y hip fur them. But these offences were of II dliferri,t kiwi, for they consisted of act* tint of nototii.ll4 moral culpability in the eyes of the corn 1111 l but acts rendered penal by statute, and committed hy stealth and in pritacy. —I Neter. hew../—As In the residents in those places being cogniist.t or finch ocrittrences ► he really stoude,fed loo t 6, Noble Earl Could "Nam, rivi a Nicosia the 14. 1 , mr; los Mouittaiuons districts (where those act chiefly committed) it was utterly impossibh : rt.,. dents could be cognizant of such proceeiliii. 4 ., „ —(Hear, bear.]—allut who were to he flit. former. ? He thought the Noble garl know character of hit countrymen better tiatis to supp o o e that they would become infoorivers twofer each 4 system as this, w h en the detection of the offenee exposed the individusl to a loss of every tlinig possessed, of even the rags that coirreol h. wretchedness, and to ass exposure In starvation ut ell it. horror.. How an informer could lie expected ender such an Act any where, but leist of all in Ireland, was to him surprising. la that coon trl no such person could be fottool for %awl' a toot.. pose. " Cull the reason," said the Sol& Earl, .4 ho. colorable if you please, upon a false principle, loot it w 4, honourable to the cause of liiimassity." Tio • attempt would be hopeless if cirri it weir ja,t.-- (11ear.1—Ile never could losing his moot 1,1 toht• rate the atrocious principle of this law, which RAS US uu j stsn i i i s bl e al it was inopret•eiletotrot, gla to be abolished iltritruie objected to the Bill being suffered to stand firer, though he concurred with the Noble Earl in think iogo that it would have been much baler it it were accompanied by the other Hill arlouittiug•onall As to the meeting at the Thatched-I 'e TaVerll, he really did not know to what the Errl bided. %Vas there any thing so extrisortiinaly iu n public meeting being convened fur a purpoooe or the, kind If the grievance west universol and trooler able, be knew no more likely way of expressing the universal concurrence upon it, than by a public meeting, called as that was. —(Hear.)—Such, fact, was the uniform course pursued on %mill . occasions. It was always lais opinion that the mw mint this atrocious system was exposed to Corer. • meld in its true colours, it must instantly :pf abandoned. With respect to what Government done, he certainly expreastil his thanks fur benefit this repeal was calculated to confer. lie would not withhold his thanks, though they wile tendered for au act of tardy justice. The Earl of Liu ERICK felt I 1111 l self so personalii alluded to by Isis Noble Friend (the Eat( of Dotionghmore), that he could not reliant from ad dressing their Lordships. He differed in rainy setn tense which had been uttered by his Noble Frievo. He had set out with swine, that this was a dry sill,- ject—how could his Noble Friend ap:dy such is description to that distinguished liquor, whi.key„ PO famed for its mobtettingqualitier ? .4 tome:4— ff the Noble Lord had listened from the engine benches around hint, that the subject was dry to their Lordships, then indeed he might concur in his application of the term. How ever vain he (the Earl of Limerick) was, he never thought himself of much distioguished im portance as his Noble Friend's attention had made hint this evening. With reference to Ins speech at the meeting, which had been so often alluded In, he really did tint know to what document Ms Noble Friend referred; hr did not know whether he was quoting from words which might have been put into his (the Earl of Liinerick's) mouth, or from any other source. He was never in the habit of preparing what he meant to say on such occasions, or troubling himself about them afterwards. At that queen' , lie had certainly avowed his sentiments, and hod de clared that Eugland would not endure a measure like this, a measure which was attempted, but suc cessfully resisted in Scotland; why then was Ire land to endure it ? He had stated this at the row ing to which his Noble Friend alluded.—[Au ac curate report of the proceedings of this meeting was given exclusively in this Paper.]—Would it be gravely argued that this crime, mule by statute, ought to be continued, because it affected the whole district, because it visited with penalties the absent, and those who could by no possibility be con cerned in the commission of the offence ?—(Hear./ How his Noble Friend, who was the champion of civil anti religious liberty, could maintain such a principle, was to him mutt surprising. How he could become the advocate of a system for his own countrymen. which, as was well said, had no in rallel in the East, its Turkey, or in Russia, in those countries most generally represented as living. under asbittary Governments, was to him nin.t surprising. His Noble Faieuil had Paid this this Hill was about to pass, in the absence of all evi dence and authority its support of it. He had In deed denied the authority of a Rev. Geetlemoi*. book ; with that Rev. Gentleman, he (the Earl .4 Limerick) had not the honour of being per.ou die acquainted ; that book detailed of the - `". "" M't 1. " . "" . " .."" t‘'`` ......“.-`.. .......... - ' •-• 'Dents which one would expect the Mintstets to /sus II SAM 10..•0111C. .1.•• ••• c sow a... ..m.c ••••••• ,syc wilit;Cre 1111 WC URIIIR• PI a 111.14G, ••....141 %Amy W..611111U1 1a1....C1 Ma) 410.. Mr. 11.•• C ... """""" • ••• • , a "oil, I.- • - 1 ii 100) d inel Watt ioii was iiidilifreird by the laud' summary, are they not properly dir e cted against to Moss. They lidded a boat which was on the iscquainted ; that book detailed many of the einem. have to p roduce, in justification of so precipitate holders of the illicit districts, who found that they a departure from a system so often brought under such a tract of country a. the barony of E •s- lake ; the boatmen refused to quit their business ties committed under this Act. Was there min evt- 1 could ten recape the fines , and that then fore they consideration, and which had so repeatedly met howen, in the county of Donegal (so instance this for them—and whet did the revenue of fi cers do ? dence there (evidence totally uoconfaceted with putt. 1, could not a fl aril to distil, without the 'napoleon a their approbation and that of Parliament. lam as the great seat and head-quarters of private die- They called for military aid, and ordered the sot- tier), not on mere werection , but supported by the t ou t it t: u , t , j u . • m U a s t i t t e ler b t y be t st eoe circu la n i t u r i t t a te u i c a tz,..a t w er i n n i me bi7 e r .. l c le e d u:ec to tti tl r t i e w. ut s c i e s_L mity a,..c o u f m su si g a g n esting as to m m a y y se p l osi f, and by tillery), when it appears upon record, in the Re- diets to fi re on the boot. The soldiers, by this most incontroverted and incontrovertible ail girt , '` i port of the Commissioners of Inquiry, that it con- low, were bonsai to obey them ; they accordingly and facts ?He had still better evidence to strew the Oltilitry had !fainted moot under the inflietion of him.' contributed • to such an effect. tamed, before the o pe ra tion of the fi • g system, did so , owl one of the boatmen was wounded....- authority of Mr. Chichester's book , for his oast these fiera. They made their appeal to Podia- . e . . A The first document to which I shall advert, is on less a number than 800 private distilleries, mud (//ear, hear.)--in no other country in Europe esteemed and personal friend, the flishomf Detrt., wieht to 'Bl6. The complaints were referred moon t he report of a Invents. , which is stated to leave of which 101 have bee n det e ct e d w i thi n the space could such atrocities be suffered to coiniuue. He than whom there did not live a more hotiouraill , t to a "'mu'" of the other Houle ' as in 1813 ; taken place an the 26th of April lea, at the of 36 hours ? hail seen most of the countries of the Emt—most man, or a man of purer principles and more est mei- nod 'awe it patient awl diligent isuluisy. Ipr i m- t-Ie Thinclwd-liottse Tavern, of Noblemen and Gen- %Vied are then the arguments which the Noble of those countries usually called arbitrary—hut in ble quainter, had often metitioned this hook tolls is • ciple ..f this fisting latent was a second time deft. • tkinen knedhohiers . 11 i Ireland—a meeting most Earl hae to advance in favour of this so suddenly no is e, not ev e n that of die Terk himself, dill lie as cootie "" i"" g Many facts that occurred wo!‘e• • ~ • - stititely recogoseed by the following Itesoluti3O. :--. respectably composed, and at which, amongst altered . systent, on the part of his Majesty's Mt- believe such a law, ra.rying ;Viet, it melt nautoss his the Bishop's) personal knowledge, and lie i - th t h e Committee appointed in Julie. 1816. to others, it ro happened, that there were fourteen mote" r atrocities, would for iiii instant be beret. It Wa. said variably spoke of the reverend writer us ass es." . • inquire iota this causes amid extent of illicit distil. • s •,,• Member* of this House, and 32 of the oilier All the great Public Bodies of the province of that this was a great change in the eixisfing law. He lent man and a good dergyinne—(Hear, hear./ tt of sp irits in Irtland..:4l,d i n t o th e h u m menus r,.. ttt House of Parliament, at least the names of so Ulster. who have taken any part upon the subject, a dmitted it was, and apprehended it was high time His Noble Friend hail stated, that this Act took o• tar file orfreeiniuti thereof—and info the operation in . any eve signed to t he resolutions, by which they have declared fur the continuative of the lilting that such a change elmuld take place, when the Ilse iii 1783. %Vas that a mama' why it should Ise 4 - 'unit effects of the preseist laws for that purpose. Itesuhre , l—" That it is .the opinion of this committer, lilopeur to have pledged themselves against the coo. 'einem—two Committees of the other House have measure was Nand at last actually intolerable in its cont . ' tttt etl, if in its operation it was found cruel awl unueece of the towtslan that itis nexpreieut lit Make su, slte•tts6u in the principle d tinisigsyetent. done the same, Arran interval of three years, rod I operation.—( Hear.)—lt was fee the wain of mums- unjust . —(flear. hear.)—Ha admitted that tiw ~ of the Isis, now in force iss Ireland, imilbsitte fiats fur (limo the subject of this meeting, the first oh- after the most deliberate inquiry. The system has ri a lsand reeresentationsof the most mimed kind,the i Act had Mr. Bereslard's authority. Mr. R. em' Olsen distillation su dm vicinage where time (atter is Com- @volition which I shall m a k e is thi s , th a t th e de- been effectual, so far as it has been steadily pursued I l aw h a d bees & au/feted to subsist so long, there had an excellent advocate for revenue, and it was ne• • s u set ri e - that wish a vie* uf preersoisse, its Far as Pussibiet I claration of the chairman furnishes authentic evi- with firtnimes and perreverance. been tendered in shundsece, bet the opinion of the total also that his Noble Friend should coottlite silty bierilsbir foliose un unlit Moats. such as may have striven i dowel, that the Ministers had. till that time at Every person who h a s e ve r tilled an y reepectable Chancellor oldie Exchequer was, that the repast in its state of maturity his superintending cave over under the preen' opristaou of ells laws, dal it is desirable least, held • hard fur the continuance of the fill ' i•ug situation in the administration of the Irish finance. might injure the revenue. He (the Eltl of A hersieet,i the child winch li e h a d so early watched. Let the f Tr me l t re t rasie snoililirmiunts, to obviate those difficulties is Mr ton do .at rstr)ism the principle of the laws above Cybkiii, err (heir answers had uniformly been. "• that with one only exception, has declared strongly thought quite the contrary, and was satisfied that Lorthlaps look at what occurred in Ireland shoo!, misdated Wu slices; amid eens•rally to afford relief in I Governm en t saw no arson to a lt er th e l aw ii , it against the proposed ahem( —and the Members the revenue would improve under a new system. I atter the iistroduction of this law; look at the oui - resew white site vicivage manifests a disposition to ',uproot then „1„„,l." themselves apPeared 11l have hero equally disinclin- But whether it did improve or did not. this would rages and endefice which chsracterord his unforto- those laws." Here Oleo ice fume evidence presented by the ad. el to any change of the system so lately as oil the be on argument for the continuance. of such a note country. Thesecruelfies. he higtino doubt. wert . dime es, Hr.:Anal it is the opiiiitot tit Ilse, Commit. tut., iIIZIi 1•101111 . huthei recourses nom should be loran sh elicates ter this repeal themselves, that an late ali 26th of April last. scourge upon the country. No revenue would jut + in nu inconsiderable degree us-cashew-4 by the let•'' sniall.uills in the .li.irtito sub. re illicit distittalime 'revolt., tier 16th or April lust, the arguments which I have %nit the sentiments are of the Gentlemen now Itify the infliction of such an enactment.—(//eue.) principle which this law sanctioinel.— ( 1 ker.) —lf pito Oar', in the wattiwatiog uf spirits inausifattuitd by Marti to your Lordeltipe tar the 'temerity of mile at the heed of the Irish Excite, I have not felt mes. —The Noble 1i..111 had quoted the laws of Alfred, he could concur in any thins that had filleu from ; 1 • , 1 . • - . • • ._ _