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consisted in the appeal to the humamity of Govern ment. arising from the'alatmirog statements furnished ter them as to the progress of disease itt Ireland.— Without stating it as a subject of accuaation. he certainly thought the question of breach of faith on the part of Parliament or Government was a fit subject for examination in the Committee, should the House consent to go into the Committee, to examine whether this had been raised as a war tax or otherwise. As to the dangerous prevatt•nce of the fever bring in part attributable to the con fined air of these abodes of the poor, there could be no stronger proof than the relaxation granted by Government, enabling the parties deprived of adequate ventilation to open their windows without being liable to the tax. The question then for the House to determine was, whether there was any part of the Petition which ought to he examined in a Committee. Perluips the Committee might propose an additional modification ; the evil might he in part redressed. He by no means considered the state of the finance such as should produce despoudency, but rather revision. There was, therefore, room enough to provide for the re dress of this peculiar grievance as affecting Ireland. Ile would auspicate nothing but good from that Committee, for certain he was, that no Member of that Committee would feel himself justified in de rogating from the character of Ireland for its ready compliance in the hour when it became neces sary to sacrifice its all ill a grand struggle for a common► cause.—( I /ear, hear.)—He believed m►st sincerely that Ireland might be relieved with out any general injury bring inflicted on the financial state of this country. Ireland was ►n that state that ►he should be carefully nursed, amid her resources rather calculated upon, as available after a row year/, than be made the subject of Immediate (nation, which stolid wily diminish her present sod future strength.—( Hear.)—lf any other op posite system ~ .ere pursued, he would assure the Right Honourable Gentleman, that the actual returns of the revenues would diminish as the duties increawed. He for one should vote for the Committee; but even if the Committee were lost, he was happy to find the Right Hon. Gentleman sas rather disposed to diminish than increase the proportion of Irish taxation. —1 ( Hear, hear.) Mr. PARNYLL was sorry for the discouragement which had been given to the proposition by the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He could not see that I eland had not borne he► fair proportion of taxation and privation for some years past, although he was satisfied the tax was a very injudicious one, as the persons resident in Isoisea of this inferior description were soot able to abed a single shining as a contribution to the exi gencies of the State. /le attributed this financial error in practice to one of a more general natu►e, which was the assuming, at the period of the Union, that Ireland ought, in the ratio of her exports to those of this country, contribute to our financial exigencies in the proportion of two-seventeenths— . . a proportion much too large, it tieing very falsely and f.►llariously supposed that the exports of Ireland wire proofs of her wealth, whereas, being all raw eponnutpiptirs, exported for the purpose of 'procuring from other countries that which she ought to have rrsioted within herself, these exports were only 1.-f. of her poverty. But the causes of Ireland's :session were ,fien to be f lin her own miss acloagensent of tier affairs. She was not even per m•tted to pave or light the streets of her metropolis, h•.t a must burdensome and expensive Board had b...raappoilited by Government for superintending -.t pettt olpjcet. Upon the whole, the causes of I enprodsietivvness, in a financial point of view, •ght he attributed to the depression of the public -plod mid the nation's energies. —( //ear.) 11r. NIA Y, in a sho►t speech, recapitulated several f the preceding arguments, and concluded by .oti.ig in favour of the Committee. Mr. SHAPLAND CA NEW contended, that the ad ditional call upon Ireland had been made in conses garner of its being I ttttt minced to be necessary to maintain a force of 4.5,000 men in Ireland. Mr. %Vss. Surrti considered this a most objec tonable tax in principle--a principle which he hoped would never be endured in this country, though circumstances might have led the Irish p-ople to bear with that which their natural high smelt otherwise would not brook—lie meant the right given by this Act to go into the interior of each house to examine if there were any internal I:4lits. Ile would deny that this was an in stance of a mild and liberal conduct on the part of Government, which would wantonly invade the quiet and grace of private life for such a paltry purpose, by sanctioning the domiciliary visits of persons so unwelcome at all times as tax-gatherers. Ile hoped if the Committee were granted, the first step taken by the Right lion. Gentleman at the head of the Exchequer would be to redress this grievance, at least, if he were not induced to relin quish the tax altogether, in die expectation of find ing resources sufficient to replace its amount, by introducing a yet greater share of public economy. Mr. P. Moues thought the b uhject had not )et "ern treated on its proper ground. The Right Non. Gentleman had stated his readiness to remit 25 per cent. on this tax. If, however, he should h e unable to make shift without the amount of than i ix, as it stood, he should prefer that the defi ciency should he levied ou this country, rather than (Autunite to sacrifice the lives and health of indivi d'lrk in that country, who were as well entitled to die ',rotes don of that House as ally man within its walls. C 4 LCR r FT—After the reiterated represents. ti" n• ~ j pity of the inhabitants of this part of ..,t•.l Itingdoon, he felt the House would 1131 he authorised in refusing to go into a Corn. milfre n u the .object. Nothing could he more clear than that there wa. a reasonable ground to the policy of the imposition of the tax, had recut its prodoetivem... 4 mte hand in hand with the tient sanguine expectation of the Minister. But the contrary had beets sliewn to be the remilt, and enough had been stated to shew to what an impro. per length 16111111011 11611 been pushed in Inc nature of these statenteuts were as yet uti. answered, and, in his mind, unanswerable. If the light HOll. Gentleman should resist inquiry, be "° l ll4l be one of the first to move fur the repeal of tile tax. Mr. ROSERT SHAW replied at some length. He I n Parbetaiar teferreri to the impression attempted 16 . be 1 0 ,111, on the House. by stating that as ass window 1t,0,t tax only fell on tenants in hanks !nV#4M having seven windows, it.enuld net i:e supposed to affect the poorer clam elite inhabitants of Dub lin. In fact; hi that city few of the boners of the poorest class had lea than that number—almost all had Considerably More. He felt so strongly im pressed with the importance of this concession, nut only to Dublin hut to all Ireland at 'large, that he should proceed to take the sense of the Hou.e upon the expediency of going into a Committee upon the subject.—( Hear, hear.) The question being put, the House divided-- when there appeared for going into Collll4lllllte--• Ayes.. 5l . Majority sexiest it l6 HIGH amurrs CLAIMS. Mr. MARSH rove, according to his notice, to move, that the order of the day he discharged for the production of an account of the income of the High Bailiff of IVestminster. The ground of the former motion, with which the present was connected, and by which it was intended ,to remunerate biro for services performed during re elections for the city of ‘Vestinineter, was not that kis regular income was inadequate, hut that he was by NW required to erect and prepare hustings fur ctirryisi 4 on the elec tions for Westminster, end that siotwitlistanding such liability, he was not by law entitled to soy remu neration for the expense to which be was thus occosionally put from time to tune. Toe rrault of that motion hail been an order fur the return of the High Baslff's income. As the only oilvet of there returns would be to expose to persons uninterested its the transaction before the House the detail of the private emoluments of the High Bailiff, he hoped the House woulttgacquiesce with him in vot ing that the order be discharged. Mr. BANKEN could see en reason why the House should depart from its usual practice in cases of this kind in the present instance. In the late case of the mist:shies Of the House, who complained of increased duties being imposed on them, the House had proceeded as they now were about to do. He then alluded to the course taken by the Howie oil lute occasions. On the question of the Copy right Act, a Committee was appointed to hear evi dence of the losses said to be NuAitined by the par ties applying to the House for relief. The inure course was taken iii tire recent Case of Members of the Royal Family—even these illustrious Person ages, when grants for them were proposed in the House, were called upon to state the sums they at present enjoyed from the public. It would be re collected that two Committees (in 1811 and 1814), lied already sat on the High Bailiff's cli , and neither had agreed upon it. It was clear, that the respectable Gentleman who held that situation, must derive in some shape or other greater emrslu melds from it then were openly mentioned, or else, was t likely he would have given at the rate of 40 years purchase for an office which involved infinite risk, personal labour, and reaponsibtlity. The House had • right to see his account, before they entered further into the inquiry. —( Bear, hear.) Lord ALTHORP was in favour of the motions fur rescinding the order to call on the Hugh Bailiff for the production of his accounts. The nature of the High Bailiff's violin writ this Act had been passed by the Legislature, COO& ))) I) og a mom take that imposed in the result on this Gentleman what the Legislature at the time never intended, namely, the expense of building a hustings. The House was, therefore, humid to repair the injury they had unintentionally done the High Bailiff, If the nature of the claim were, that the duties im posed nn the public officer were inadequately paid fur, and that he applied for an additional grout, then indeed the lionise would have a just ground to call for his accounts, 4,141 lee into the nature of his remuneration.—(!/ear, hear.)—But here the High Bailiff did not complain of his emoluments, and, therefore, the House kid no hula to turn round on him in this manner, and require their amount, par ticularly as they arose from what easy be called his private estate. Ile only asked to be repaid th a t expense which fell ont him through air urrinteutiated omission of the Legislature,—( Hear, hear.)—The cases alluded to by the Hostouraltle Member (Sir. &mikes) had no reference to such is case as this, and he blemish therefore must heartily concur in the motion.—(Hear.) Mr. TIERNEY said, that if the ground,' of the High Bailiff's application were fir remuneration for additional labour, their it would be iheunibent Noon him to chew, that his emoluments were at present insufficient; but the ground of the applies lino here was for a specific sijury di'r'er contem plated by the Legislature, which, nevertheless, un intentionally imposed it upon a public officer, who purchased his situation without contemplating any such loss. He now called for an inrlenunity for a specific charge he was compelled to eicur, and not fir any remuneration growing out of the duties of his suffice. None of the cases put by the Hun. Gentleman (Mr. Italikes) applied to the present, which was simply the rest , of a Mall suffering under the construction of a new Act, which never contem plated what followed its the manlier it occurred. Ile (11r. Tierney) lord no imereat one way or the other in this question—lre led always moderato/id the High Bailiff to Ire • moat respectable Gentle man, end he believed him in this case to be entitled to the justice he sought at the Imola of those who lean:fed the injury. —(/hear./ • 3lr. I.CSA FT was sorry he could not mare. with his Bight Hon. Friend who spoke last. The High IlaihfT asked fora grant of piddle money to re pair a 10-s rntsileJ 'spins hiin by the duties of his office. timely, to ascertain the amount of his less could not he more properly done than by inquiring into the emolumeins of Isis office. Ou a late lieca sion Members of the Royal Family were called upon to return an uecount of their public revenues, when additional greets were applied for in ther he half, and Inc saw no assns why the High 114Olotf should he alone rzotopt from the orration of the general principle alnch governed the House on subjects of this kind. The applitaiti•in was for a grant of public money, tied until he proved a loss in the general emoluments of his office by this par ticular transaction, Ire had no right to pre** his claims on the coissiderat - of the !louse. lis two former Committees the !high 1;4114 had in evi ct disclosed his einelinneins ; what silijection could he now have to withhold theist ? For these reasons he must see the account* bcfore he could consider the remunerati . Mr. TIERNEY maid, the opplicution was not wade in the shape of sevling for public aid, but for a private and specific injury. Mr. Mott air thought they might 114 welter,' for the accounts of any gentleman's private estrie re for those of the lligb Bailiff, who Lois in point of fret, sought an *Meant In compensulion of not more than one-third his retort loss. The CliANcat.Loit of the EireTIEQUFR was at a loss to are why the gentleman should refuse to pro duce accounts which he had some time ago laid be fore two Committees. If the production were pro per thee), how could it be injurious now ?—(lfeur.) Sir JAMEs MActiaNTOSIM said, that if the House would not discharge the order for the production of the High Bailiff's accounts, it was clear he must obey it. But that was not the question ;it really was us to the course which it became the I loii•e to take towards the High Bailiff on the oresetit moos sou. This was an order Upon a public officer to snake a return of the amount of Isis freehold when he clone forward to claim an indemnity, caused by a negligence in an Act of the Legisla ture. This claim was one of strict justice, and which, on its own specific merits, ought to be con ceded, without any reference to his private affairs. It had been bald, that the High Bailiff already sub not ied his acconiits to two Committers; this surely proved that he could have nu sinister motive for withholding them now, and insist be merely ac tuated by a sense of the injurious precedent he thought a further compliauce with this order would set u,i. lie thought rt only common justice to concede the High Bailiff's claim. Sir J. NEWPORT stated, that when the order was made on the High Bailiff, he felt the strougest ob. jectiott to it, a n d would or course now vote fur utm being rescinded. Sir E. BRYDGF.9 could not connect the injury sustained with the emoluments of the office, and sow no reason therefore for the production of these account.i. . Sir W. Bonsovoss reculleeted the cage of the High Brilaff against Sir F. Bunko. and that the neglizenee in the wording of the Act caused the expense to the former, who wee c-rta;itty entitled to an indemnity Mr. Itcrewn.t. said, the ease stood on grounds totally dis tinct from the profile of the office. Mr. Itanitte captained. Mr. FORMICA begged en ask, if one of the Members retina ed at the election alluded to was not liable, as a Cairliilate r though both were not from the cireunistauce of one of them not having canvassed? Mr.J. I' GRANT replied in the negative, on the authority of the decision in the Court of King's Bench. Our Of the Members seturue I (Lord Cochrane) had paid his .hare; but lb. other (Sir F. Burdett) obtained a decision in his favour. Toe High Italian' was certainly entitled to remuneration for the expense he hail been put to, without reference to his private accounts. - Mr. RORI.RT SMITH said, that the words of the Act were "candidate, or candidates." The case stood thus :—Lord Cochrane suffered judgmetit to go by default, eml paid his moiety 011 the High Bailiff's estimate pending the pro ceedings against Sir F. Burdett, who was decided not to have keen • candidate within the meaning of the Act, and then-fore not liable 10 pay the High Bailiff's demand. But Ind this conker been folly advised in hia first course (mud liu meant by no means to reflect on his advisers), he might have recovered the whole amount ferns Lord Cochrane, who wad clearly a " candidate," though he meld not turn rimed and recover the retnainiler, having dosed his proceedings against him on leis own terms. The error, therefore, was the High Bailiff's, and he had no right le call on Parliarneut to rec tify his own miitake.--rnectr „:—Vieder any view of the case, the accounts were, however, necemary, and be would vote for their production --(Heier..) Lord FouRaTONG Bald, that is the view of the caw takes by the Hun. Aletuber who had spuken la -t, it wee clear that if the High Bailiff had his remedy against Lord Cochrane, the latte► would also have his eqintable claim opium the House fur the injury he sustained by the equivocal genus of the Act. The claim of the High Bailiff was use of pure and simple justice, and ought to be complied with. Mr. MARS* replied. %Vben the Hostig divided, the numbers were— For the smiutt Against it The numbers being equal, the SULKER gave his castiug vote against the motion. owe nalrr, therefore, Ca. the production of the High Bai. lifi remittals is force. EAST INDIA DOCK COMPANY. Mr. BENJAMIN SHAW rose for the purpose of snoring for the Ac cutouts of a public body, which be hoped the House would see the propriety of calling for. He would shortly stale the facts of the case. In the year 1803, an Act was passed fur the ►egulation of the East !nth t Hock Company, which mushiest, that all Asir canting (ruin the East Indies should be discharged at the [lucks of this Company. Some time after this Act was in upetatiosi, a grist change took place its the Last India trade, by Ilse permission to smaller ve-sels than those heretofore employed to participate in it. The Company were bound to resider as annual accouut of their homeless. These was a clause in the Act, that whenever shares bore a higlwr dividend than 10 per cent. the surplus should go in domination sof the rates payable in the duck•. His object in Lallllag for these accounts no the part of the ship•owners, war, to enforce the effectual operation of this clause. In the accounts just laid on the table, very little Information of a discrisnivativc uatu►e would be found. The charges wet& in ►ound sums, without 'specific explana lions of the 114.11114 sonic of which the ship owners Omagh' should be charged WI the capital instead of . upon the receipts. In explaining the 1114 'r its which the accounts presented were nude out, he enumerated one head of expenditure as (11110 .4 .—+ For loading and unleadisig, labourers wages, &c. Mt:Odeon' exp. uoliture, and for ant ttttt it of extraordiusry disbuisetnents, Ike. 41,93 II 13s. 2d." The Ilusi. Gentleman, after adverting to other parts of the expenditure, which he pronounced venally loose, said, that the►e existed a total sit 88,00111 which was 11111 to be found among floe credits of Ilse Company. He did not mean to say bat that it might tuts-clot-en properly expeaded—he uuly required a full and satisfactooy statement of the mouser of its dis pu•al from year in year. The ship-owners did not crimplain of the heavy charge for troinage, considerable as it was ; but they did entreat that the mins shoo Id not 11e made mare bur densome on them—and they called, as they wet e entitled sl/ do, fur a just and true account of the annual expenses and balances of the Compary. Thu' tonnage charzed in the dock was 18s per ton, which could be had fur 4s at the out-ports, and for 31. in the port of Loodou, were it not fur the im perative terms of the Act, which gave a monopoly to thus Company. He concluded by moving— " 'l•hai the Court of Directors of the East India Hock Company be required to return an ace tttt t of their buil distingtoisking the extrordinary disbursements, and Ibose not provided fur in the increased capital, which are stated out the 2.1 Starch to be included in the sum of 41,11311 13n 2.1. and llial they do relnen an sce•uuut of the appropriation of the balances bets/era the years 1802 anti 1818." _ Mr. .4 VreLl. complained of the mittatemenit in the eliech of thr Hon. Mover, who hail said that the charges on ton. mixt were Ids. whereas, in fact, they weir only 14%. *oh a drawback 4.f 2.. if the vessel 41111 not go into the outward bound dark--.sod this role of tonnage was calculated, not tin the real but on the ilia. ter. al amount The I ac. cu.mto had brill regularly 1.1111 011 the la Illt according to the usual 0 4 11, and they were ins& out in the i sails. facto' y wanner. The Honoisi able G. lilt. man was equally in error alien he spoke of 41.11.311. 13s 1,1., the 11111/1 Ullll4llll 10 1,r1,l only 13.1NN1/• The dividends; too, were over calcolcie.l, for the tivera;zr was only at the rate 411 sia per cents—tire was at first pawl, six after, •wd the pre sent rate was seven per cent. oil a capital of 400,8 1 0/. T'M•re was no ground, however. for insinuating that the Irma irregularity pit:railed in their mode of doing business, The expresiion of the Hon. Gee:lmes that there was moms thing Whimd the column witch the Dir•eturs sere outwitting •to she*, was totally destitute of (mediation. He war of opinion that t►em was no necessity fur producing theaceottals, and should object to the motion. Mr. 1111,11Airestire said, t►at 111 slar ad-mono of the Com pany for the last eight years, these wa usoforooly a balance mated at the foot, wbielo was to be accounted for lis the elegem, year, but in no one instance was this etogageniert ewer observed, so that there remained a sem of eti3Oont Mill to be accounted for. By sods is mode of proceeding, the Directors slid not comply with the Ad of Parliament that rerestro-d theta to present the annual •eeuunts of thew I reeipts nod dislonnwonents. The great embuot of the dillies a ai bit as a great gtievetwe by all the slop-o*nm in the poi of London, for they were charged at thistale of sister* shillings a ton al the 1.4.1 India Docks, while taco• btui ors.' would be transacted at Liverpool end other ports at the rile of 2s. ed. The charge in the port of Loudon, he was convinced, 1114)11111 be found equally moderate hit for this s poly of she East India Lhork Company. mows polies had the effect of driving away the trade of Loutlow,ollll4 the cooly ehince of est ' g 'or n•msveviug it,. was /if bringing down the charges to the least of ill their cureige and oilier competitors. Such incompulies had been permitted for a short One in the reign of Queen Elizabeth I bet that wise Princess could not fail soon to see Ilse evil milts of such a system, mod the sccordingly put as rod to it, had received in eimarquence an address of thanks frost,' the (louse of Commons. He trusted that the same !onset* would be pursued now, and ilvit expiration of three exclusive (limier*, they sbould nut he renewed, by which alone Loodou world be fairly ens4tleol to compete with het rivals ill All her commercial pursuits. He thought the se: eunots ought to he produced, sod aboald therefore vote fee the motion. Mr. Al , leratan ATKINS tirfrniltd the eondoet of the Dock Compaoy. of week+ he tasted himself to he a ihreetor, au,l said, that any Geofitment desired information revert. ittr the proceeditogY of liar Coutp:iiiy, the books were epee fur I. inspection. Mr. Tito . Isnot' contended in few words for the necessity and justice of producing the accostota. Atter • few words in defence uf the Comp•ny, from Mr. Protherne, Mr. Mosley, and sir William Curtis, who st ded that he had been a Director last year, and lisped be would be one next year again— Mr. H. SHAW spoke briefly in reply, sad the question he. ing put, the motion was decided in the affirmative. SINECURES AND USF.I.ESS PLACES. Mr D. O. fitr.araT obtained I•avr In bring in a Bill to regulate the u4Rre of Lord Justice General of Scotland, in por-uaare of the asiggeatiotit or the Pumice Committee. BANK OF ENGLAND.—PROSECUTIONS FOR FORGERY. Mr. Best, from the Bank of Edigland, presented at the Bar an Ace ttttt it, 'hewing the Number of Persons prosecuted for forgery ley the Bank of Copland the year 1783; and also nee Acedinnt euf the Amount of Forged 'Notes received by tier Bank (hiring the same period. The Citawcvt.boa of the Exc.' eql.:Ea hewing moved that these wipers should lie oil the table, expreeeed a hope that tier Hun. and Learned Gentleman (Sir J. Mackintosh) would postpone this motion, that the Report of the Committee un the Budget might be brought Sur J. MacKlNTostt felt econc difficulty in answerieg the Rigid. Honourable Gentleman. He was not willing peril leie.uusly to insist on his motion,. but the question had becu puelporied fiir a hung tone, even by the delay in •, 'aging up the pipets that hail been just presented to the liouse. If, however, he could entertain any hope of having the motion hrought ou at an reedier hour on some future evening, pi evious to the great discussion un the affairs of the Bank, so that the measure of restriction could be kept dia. tiect from its tendency to promote crimes, lee could have nu objection to puetpone it. Os this, however, the Cbaucellor of the Exchequer not having given any satisfactory assurance— Sir J. MaCKIXTrisH rase, and lamented that he shosild he compelled, at such an loner, when his own strength and that of the House were almust exhassed, to draw the attention of the House to a subject of such vast importance. lie should, however, state his °plutons upon it as briefly as possible. It was, be said ' within the recollection of the House, that about two mouths aft; he had moved for a return shawiug the number of prosecutions conducted by the Bank of Eeeglaud for forgery, during fourteen years previous to the original suspension of cash payments, and fur the entire period since that event. These accounts had not lien delivered until that monrut. There were some other accounts for which he should move, and to which he could anticipate nee objec tion, escept to one, namely, that shew•ing the expenses incurred by the Bauk to conducting those prosecutions. This paper he nude:stood would be refused, upon the prin ciple that such a motion iuvaded the private concerns of the Bank ; but, sea public evil, in the multiplication of crimes, bad arisen from the measure of restriction, he trusted this plea of privacy would not be admitted. The 'noes' Milo enee of the restriction, in increasing one class of crimes to a degree quite s►nexampled in the history of criminal law, was pee fectly distinguishable from the economical and poli tical ceinsielerations resulting from the measure, and it was in that distinct view of the question that be should direct the attention of the House to the former. By various re 1111 turns laid before the House, it appeared, that fur seven years I before the suspension of cash payments, there had been no proucttlion by Ike Bank ((.Enpiand,.litit fur the seven years subsequent there were no less than 224.—(11epr, /*tor, bent )—Tskieug a comparative view of fourteen years before, and fourteen years sister the restriction, there ap peared in the furrn►r period lour prosecutions, and in the latter on kss lbanfusse hundred and sirly-nine.—r Hear, bear.)—There were no accounts previous to the year 1793; List scantling to the common rules of proportion, there must have been in the 21 years previous to Ile restriction, six prosecution', and Icy the accounts um the bible there up. pearud in the 21 yeah% since the suspension, 850 prosecutions. The priodecutions, therefore, in these two periods was us six to 851. It might possibly have hero imagined that there would be found in the Mint prosecutions a diminution pro . portionate to this increase in those of the Bark; beet un fortunately there too, there appeared an equal increase. Thence it had been argued, that the increase of the crime of forgery arose solely from the depravity that haul given birth to that of c•eunterfriting the coin ; but in the two statements, the difference was Vies, that while i,e the Meat prosecutions the increase was gradual, and amounted to *bout dutible the number previous to the think Restriction, those of the Beek had increased by a sad•len bound, and in more than 100 fold. gee appalling a circitmstarice could not have occurred 'situ• out an adequate cause, and to what could ut be attributed but to the increased circulation of smell 'lutes, from one million to seven or eight millions. lie could not avoid pressing it on the consideration of the House, tbat the crime had thus increased, notwithstanding the violence of the pu- Rudiment that awaited it, and live severity with which that punieliment was almost uniformly enforced. This was a humiliating fret fur those who thought to meet every in crease of crime ilia' a proportionate severity of puni.linield, and included their universal remedy in the words " hang, hang, bang!"--(Hear, hearj—Thesrime of forgery lon had increased, while that of highway rubbery had dimi nished. Perhaps, however, it might he objee tett, that this decrease• of highway rubbery had arson hoin the sue of paper. To this position he must object, fur• tile decrease of highway robberies he must attribute to other causes, such as the establishment of inall.coaches—which net only gave electivity to their immediate nr•cupiers, hot to all other travellers; acting, iu this respect, like a general patrole on the roads, to the horse patrule, acid the general exertion of the police of the country. Atluding to the 11111 pending before the House for regulating Cuu•ury Bank!, if he under stood aright that its objet was to check the a irrithooon ut country bank mitt's, observed, it might Me entitled," An Act fur clictioriiving Forgery," for it tended to promote the circulation of the metes that most conduce,' to f•erge ry, in the piece of those that were seldom forgeul.—; flew, hear.) He shoed, Olt during four years Ilse amount of forgeries on ...e Bank of England was ilto,oool of which only R'9l. we, e pail by the Bank, but subsequently rfenVt'r. e n in euasiltiNice of the exc.•llent measures adopt el ht• the Bank 1 . .. r ifs own security, it had MA Wet one le - tiny, save h ut it had euriorit in proeeeritione. 1.1 the sne:en time, how-wen, it laud an nuirepral tax, to lee borne by the very polo i•at soul most ignorant of the people, of 25.10001, year, whirls was indirectly continue.' by the House by means of the reatrictim, whereas their hearts would revolt at such a m ea s u r e if it had been directly proposed for their The Learned Gentlentais then adverted to the dies treasing cireinnstalices attendant on the facility afforded to forcoy, by initileing persons NNW, the learnt of auciety, women, and cress whole families. In engage Ilt It, the remit of a Lich, al o ft, r h cal, or jam. or or_ e'ssa'y, was atilsoirriato- the ;Tel:co.:a feelings of mankind, and ...Imitated to bring into diseredi,t the entire system of the r I Law. To prove the fats nt of forget y,lw mated, that the average auutial animint of executions la Eisglatid and %Vales, film' 1405 to 18:2, was tifty-rte. of. isle( thirteen were for the crime of forgery. Bet proved the increase of tic crime more fully, Ilia. that the Kink of Fitz:and had lately consented to admit pleas of entity to the charge of having forged Bank lOWA ill p3...SAllit, ethelehty the individuals escaped the rapier', part if the iudictm. iit. 'rhos proved that.it was impossible any longer to CUOMO! the old policy. slaughter of bottles of Inca could nut be cutaired from the diatomitee of mild:hid by the mere legality of the transact' ( Thor, hear, Agar.)--After some observation* osi tits of capital punishment, wlwn caviled to ex crso 1.1 prevent the increase of crime. lie adverted tw the tiecensity of adopting every onealia within the reach of bonsai' Mgt:unity, to, remove, us Pinellas pos.:dale, cell in ducements to forgery by its facility. S. venal proj , cis hail hero proposed s hy ingeniuns Mel, to 411:1113 lint pur ism's., but be reared without 'midi chalice er success.— These were two objects to he attained—one the locus rill of the Bauk—the other, that of the "collie. The Bank was already sufficiently secure, and to obtain the swim object for the public, it was di suable that the notes of the B ints should have come eOttapICIIMIS 11131 k, .listinzisishablr by the most ignorant persons, nod yet such as could mit ready be counterfeitted by the mast ingi MMus. It had been his inteiviou to propose • Committee to ascertain the means of attaining this °Neel, but he shoisld content himself with moving for papers a Itch might 'percolate be submitted to examination. lie. recapitittated.the princi pal topics lie had already advauced, and Laid, Simi if the Bank refused to present the acconsits fur which he should move, be most conclude that part of the expenses incurred had been apilied to the reward of the di testable agents who bail been employed in floe sednetion of the iiinuceut to crime. The Hon. Member ice d by mowing— " 1. Fur an Acclaim. of the. total nominal entire of forgrd Batik Notes presented c.. cite D..cik of England, end iehised payment, tilt Reeolltlt of tic ing forg.J, Gum the Ist JA stodgy, 1816, to the 10th April, 1818., " 2. An Account of the womb , r of pet 34111 S by the Batik of England fur forging, Witco ur having its possession Forged Notes, knowing them to ~e forged, due log the same period —distioguishing the - prosecutions for Notes of the value of U. 2/ 51. 101. and 201. " 3. An Account of the total number of Bank Notes ins. covei ed by the. Bank to he forg.'d dwtug the smile period, distinguishing those refo l ittl to be paid when ma aented, and thu.se discovered to he fozed after having been paid. " 4. Fe ran Account of the %hole Expense inertia d by the Batik of Eintle.id for preset:idiom: fur forging, uttering. !mil baring to pos. ssion, lamas iag them to he lot cd,forgid Notes, during the same time, distinguishing those node iti each year." The questiombeing put on the Ecst flerolot 31r. MANX IN 7 said, that eve' y pa iiject sent in It the Bank fur the improvement of the structure of 'totes, received the fullest consideration—awl if they all Istssl liven bithertia rejected, it teas because, on the um ,t deliberate examiva lion, they bad been deemed Madill" die to the cud in view. The Bank winded uta additional 'wittily for themselves i all they waisted was the MC2114 of enabling. the public to ascer tain at once the genunsciii Si or spuriousness sof a note.-- He appirbentled there would be nu objection on the part or the Bank that the first motion shucicl lie carried ; but to 'ac cede to the motion for an account of the expense of prowe cittiona, would betray a desire of prying into the private 'Tilers of the Bank, and on that ground ought to be itjecteds Sir C. Moaaaa stated, that the fa c ility o f cuuntrate'iiiug the notes of the Bank of England, was a bbbbb at heavy mity on tlse_town of Birmingham, in whirl, forgery was made a regular trade. Aldermao WooD said, that in nine cases out of ten, the perilous prorieruied had been inveigled Tutu the crime of Curgery, evegmersou eyjr_ gave information receiving a re ward of 1. ale felt bound tu suppoi t the inutiou. Mr. Glut's-mt. did expect that flee Bank Director would have stated aumeapecial attempts of the Bank fur improving , the been and form of notes. A eert.licate bad been signed by several entitient artist., that it, theii opinion, the method of Mr. Tilloch did nut admit of being imitated with any aeceess. The Cuasickmott of the tecnetinEtt —lle did not much approve of the motion fur an account o f th e ma rro w of pr.,. secutious; however, he rattier wished to answer certain statements made by the Hun. and Learned 811embrr, Item directly to oppose his mutiou. Tim statement that the poli tic might he induced to suppose that the Bank encouraged informers, was utterly unfounded. TIM Directors of tie Bauh..would be entirely incapable of such conduct. Ile hoped to hear an explanation of Ids observations oit these most respected individuals from the How and Learnt J Gen. Orman, and also of sonic rifles-lions be had made ma the ju dicial administration of the country. Mr. Bestn eft would assure the Hun. Member who oppos ed the motive', that the system, if endeavoured to be vr.e vered ill, was near Its end. The opiuione of the country, acting on the Hume, would compel the Bank to renootwe a systyo so disgraceful to the country. Mr. Titunlrsog ruse, but was anticipated _by Mr. Max- MING, to explain his Cornier observation. Mr. Timm rsos then observed, that though the Bank hail been studying improvements 10 or 14 yeas e, th.l hail to vet put true in practice. lie had the autism ity of private tankers for saying, that when notes were well executed, they nese scarcely ever forged. Mr. DtCPCINSOS said, the Bank onght to give a staled eatery to their solicitor, instead of n tie oci acli pol.secit lion. He had reason to know that the avidity for suili pro. secutions was extreme. Bishop Burnet foietold, that the ponce of the Book would one 'ley became so veal as to eon. trot the country. This was now verified. The Bank could remain uninfluenced by the opinion of the country, and exercised a complete MOlR:ace over the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. Bantentost thiinght the loss to the rummy I.y the forging of notes might be rated at 50,0001 pie elision' He wished that notes of email Value %Imola have eircuintlida only in • limited space. Ile was fart/111y 111111re,0.C41 aids the necessity of some regulation. General Tuottxrun Wall very anxious fur the :mecca. of the motion. Mr B. SHAW thought the discovery of an a,l. quote trethoil difficult, but nut impossible. Mi. Han* DAVI/ concluded, from exprrivhcc, that the beat engraving were nut incapable of imitation. Mr. TNOItaTUN the ell at iiiimbeis of forgeries arose nut from the facility of counterfeiting the Ilmde eu. g'e'es., lint frmii the indolerice of the public. He felt 110 ob. itellol.l 10 giallItt11( all the .icruums desired. Sir J. M•cntxvoart explained. The motion was then agreed to, and the three remaining motions were severally pat and eat , The He l l „I of the Committee Of Wa)a anti SI. r.La w•.• brought op, the Itesollitions read, and, after a few rroil.Li from the CHASCELLOtt of the EiCtlatattEn„ the Repos t was mgr. , It to. The CIiViCIELLOR of the EIECHWQI:EII gave notice, that be sruithl to-moi ow (this day) move, that the noose at its roi,og do adjourn to Friday. The Mock A111(110118 Bill (second reading) was pottpoind till this day Vitt The Other Oid re of the Dip were Then tliorn‘ed of, Dad the House adjourned at HALF PAR ON). u'CLuca• Ou Saturday laat the 85.1 i ret,riment. under the enumatill Cal.in•l "ItionNeum, whith ham beet, atationed in Gloucester for the last Gift' month., received a route from the Vl'ar-Office far Pl)mouth Barracks. The fine %diner-like appear:tore of thi s corns has excited much admiration, and their oi. derly behaviour it, quarters equally entitles tlit-itt to I•rsise.