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TIEN.'" - th 4 3 ,.11 a I .° 0 ,113 M °I ,A;sl 1$(0 , W WI NI .1 (•,101 ,11.(te intg k., "I .. . 1 (II Toll • ;..r the toe t .d4s I.oot a P •33.1 . 1r0 3 31st bY erulr Boy - bail • onfern of the St Lor ttiag AO CO 'East In 4 (;overall olio. , 11 teen a Or VP tear .111 La Ws herd a n•n SI b 4 .3 Fe . k It the on ht i se•..ee 1,3 I t :e d. , I.V•3ti . n Mai n the 1 Jet a f•cl., 0 ..• rll./3 r t n, i to , pa lot be 1 it at I. the ewe, I # toup.; 4 Cu Lo 4 It Mt km be • ta.ns a lei tc • (421 that t $ 8 of r. 443 ,, 0 • Lem • iota • bfsa AI 11. • r•anq arm i.• , rp 14.1 e l 37 ( .4 n 7 t 1 to bins. to# hut AA 1 t .04 17 • 1 1,110 t:•—• p,ig 1 Pm 11-• • al4 1 4 em IN iltti trial 14 Ilad ti II f ee Lee 1/10 to l d phi, sow tot Olal• t 'a Vo tta I IA Tir Ge• Tei * 01 tat obeli fn to ▪ 10 tiz aid ta, 4a. 1 at del mat o tfll 410 1 ti ~. sepnwiltrtr; and that, hri they brought in mar. proporttett of their actip. at W 3 • neeetsars to rape ..1.3M 01 40,0001 inorder to make gond their engagement, ~ causegeences 'orchid have oceo, to inzreate the pto , wenn aerip, shich at that time amoumed on the loan of 13 to 15 per cent. to affect injuriously the cre.ht of (eai mage,especially du Awl traniiii!ed that t it..ir ..itticos to make such disadvaatagceus t ales, and roast had a getie:al tendency to eaguicat the cinha!rasi .. veatic credit. bash stated lreevidenee to you; Coin mitlae, that • the loan' then in progress of paymegtt, had 'teen ,t,atf ill the Wit Ute rK to 'Mat. by ;Ate, the deficiency could not have been supplied by a (had it been imet.aart to resort to such a Inewture), on Mims of very contideralakt lose and dtsadvantage difficulties, Lord Viscou nt M •IviPe, then 'flea. • navy, a psears to have sucipsved to Mr. Pitt, that Moors. yd e ar Company might be snared, liability that the d service sreuirl sur:cr any • ..rience from the advance, pmvided there IVA a ituffi •cality for the temay moot , and no miter method having by winch mach actions mischief to the Pu'olte could tt was thought adriseable, by the cancutreneopi ._ Meivide and Mr. Pitt, that the application of hoed and Ctimpany be complied with, and upon a stialcient iiiesein of 40,0t;91 should be advanced, : eir being given. And apmers in es idence, that, wider a Lora Melville, the .sum of 40,0001. was drawn orders i n the Bank, and nn t he same der paid over to Mr Ras d, 'Nitc.l.ong,tlien Seminary of the Treasury, upon Mr Boyd's positing with Mr. Long sectiritim amtaut.ting to about 7004 f04110,1;11ge111 pan, of bills drawn on and accepted by gal; IndlaCompsny Corn their presidencies abroad. the rest ; idle ,ined which Mr. Lung bausinitted to lurtiag u-,ion the corer the purpose for which the paid: ~cdepreitel that, the sard sum of 40,0001. bin all re rod that, yeah the exception of two bills vie East India Company, one for 4,01191. ply able lit ft:testier „ the , for 7,0001. or thercaboots, payable in Jantory r : al the rest oi the securities leers payable within three tier of the dew:Vt. .!0 oat tot I that any reeit'sir entry or nesmontneturti, af a public or secret nature, was made of tins transaction • •ith • - 100 J 0! the 40,900 i. appearing cat the books of . io i &salter:ad by any cOrrespendent payment ,i.s 4 the Pay Ogle., this advance meat at all times ovid.ot upon ail inspection of the balances as a deiit ...c whicht the Navy ; rio entry seems to have :en 14.e.?ned, weal lit itself hive explained the ap -41..,3 admace (Independent of the evidenc ?of t m ore paniculariy after the securities went discharged ° .Js fowls re e lacad. 13 111 C t00:10 of our examinsti sn into this ou'Aedli, we ted;ht it prope: to enquire, whether 10 fart any Incetive .nce had been sasiain•.d by the naval service, in csusequence t:r d.vtnioi of this p', lion of navel money; and were ...;iealoey led t this eniuiry, .bj the informartun, that • .4 &di fix 1,0001. drawn u:von the ViEtualling Offic-, • sunicre, had beets presented for payment, and that I.tn of February, 1791, the din sac became due, the tester of it was told at the Victualfir Wee: were no sfsett, or .enteth;rig to that puriwne ; that there tree: many Wa• r 'Os in tne sarii,Nticiatiort, and he roust All again; an.i eras the bill was nut pout till the let of Yore's, thsegli he hod lent it two or three ti lies for payoient iii that interval. Upon further enquiry at tlw Victualling ltffice, it appears, f 7? •ist the 9tb of F•bruary, 179;_, the Vntitalliiie Office ape il.• II fie • era of ?3,h1Dl at the F.gebequar, for the par meta of several billy i,l whet the bin in qtacstron was haciroled; that oti the 4th of the lima await, 47,0401. was ieceised in part • tliv 70,0:W1 , for that pwp 44 ; lad that on the same day, Va2arki bill( with rawly otto ri, was assigned for pay:mist, end 11.1 , f been .11‘...1.3.112.1 on that dry, or a; rico a tat as nay wilt Itet dead called tor. In this 'tortoise., the d •!Ay of the atriritmsrt, aecl estioquenaly Of ;Ay il i VeAlf to 111101 • from& delay in tire yaws the lischeeret, an. , ur t tin a refusal i t pay;C:..nt n the past of toe Tie:unser of Cie Ir;fiff ; nor ha: it ap i sca 0.1 ir•eaien.7.e, Vitt ,t•ly d. lay cf ;..ay lb:Whit been actual, uxdsionod in soth,:r branches of the naval ser%.c- thr advance in tiaestion, however :web a prac tice :..i,;4l:a Isr,aU..l cases have 11Cflt 1n.4.10.:t1 re of a di !.rent inteicst IV3+ derratti-r1 (mut Mesas. Boyd and Compant We the money an a dranerit ; and sia repaid ; but it is to be err /erred, %hit uu Oitetast h accred to the public, had the abo‘e OJAI tentalatil in Cob Milk, in conformity ta the peoreians the Act. Ai to the sum cat 10,0001. it ap:mies i 0 evict :neft, that, Tian str Tretter'i aitaniuLn.rt to the iiffice of Paymerter tit the t7cni, Its bril4 natant.% Aar Lord htelbe:c, that he, laird was h.dliatd t • the ta:fiee ht Ole aunt of - At what time, can kr what ciicuitistancei, and for wiiat put low, [nil .insungf 10,0001. originally came into the tissacssion at 1. .M the 4.:.ith of the receding Paymaster, the tek..c4.• of all public document* relating to it, and the wain tf any oth-r present- from ascertaining ; ant we therefore, only stets, that this sum vu reptbeell, but about iamb% some bate subsequent to the year 17156 t Lot pionteular time and maiiiier of the re lay taunt we Itt.se ' been able to ,listOrer. It anperet leo hi evidence, that npon Mr Teeter succeeding tie Otfwe of Paymaster, he was t eeitented Private Agent Ltd kLeveet n epttd was, during his colatinuanee in that ;re in the habit neVcctiving his salary as Tremerer, and other taeas W his ineo:ne 'tieing i i England, as well as frequent :meanie,. from Scotland ; and that the sums received by him Load At lathe's deemed, were paid into the Mimed Fund Mahn. epees; that dotes the fourteen or fifteen rats of being Pityineeter, be at venous times advanced various ts of Wont/ on account of Lent elehelle to Mr. Tweedy to whin persons amounting to aliatistr sum of etwet 2.! AWOL being the sod aggregate sues berme mentioued; hat tee sums paid to Mr:tweedy ensouetedunce et twice to 1 et• 4,0001. that of tae sate aggregate sure of et or ee,Onel, about one hen was daae/ce eveluswely from the Liebe Money; the rot trees the milted fund at Alt-sirs. Semite Islam all his pevat money Was hie; and Mat the whole. has Woe repaid, but sethoet any theuest. - • At whit eperifie perinea these reacted sums wets paid by Mr. I . .,Atele, rw reeve. by Laird Melve.e, we are uttahht W fail out ; lhe wniellsers. Inetnnerghlionoll, and OOnagii fvlatul f • angaeliole lientiOav log been deetruyed ilerat the time, when relcases, a:tilde:sting a cavemen for that • reeve, were mutually mhemte t upon the settlement or Med hareems, vie. lei Lied Mslett e on the 18th P. ltruary, 179 d, st Nieleille Castle, and by Mr. 'Trotter on the Zed of February, 17e8, in Louden. h(, Trotter elates, that he also destroyed ell the letark, et which the acceents between Lent Melville and hunted were kept, autl which contained tht acemnits of Miter emsonts latiselcs those between Lett Melville anal Mr. Trotter; hut which had all been el”sri, exc-pt sums small aceitunts leeteen Mt. Trotter end his friend., which he ear: led fitment halo new books. Prom the eestructlon of such books anti paper*, from the illetth of Mr. Tweedy, and twee want of an oppurtunuy of ex• :alining Lout Melville, no trans wereatiOnled to us or tilting t'artere applicatinn tlz various aunts no aevanced from tete to tim e to Melte els order, and which funned the t:l4 at,:leveate sum of ei nr*a,hael. ; or which of these sums +Yew:malty wet. taken hole the politic latency, and which of leers from Me netted fund; or in what proeurtion the MIRK that might be 'skeet hem the mixed fund contested of palaiie and what of .prrate money. It "Pevets , tweeter, that Mr. Pitt, in a convetsatirm with Load Melanie, Same the pnblitatiun of the Tenth Report, enderstood, that, besides the said auto of 4e,t.M01. another Inca of about *lOOOOl. Ltsued for NJ*, SerNiG2e, had been ap plied to put 'wefts not ?Laval, du Mg the: last Treasurership of Lord ; bet wines r thu Crowe sum of Detente was or was not Indutled its ail in the sums liereinbeturo mentioued, we are unable h. atern.nii. In a letter written io Lord Me' rills to the Commissioners of Naval Enrolee dated ...Uth June, leol, contatued in the Tenth Reptile lie stater, that he had not dm:lined to give 011- taskuul accommodation from the funds in the han is of the Treasurer .4 the Navy to other set vices; and its another letter to the we. Commutate:tett, dated eBth March, It he de clares he weer knowingly derived any adsattug, froth any ad. van -es 1.1 public money. Upon the Steo.4 nosed of enquiry referred to us by}our Or , der, videlicet, whether any, 834 what represeotatteme were made u. the 1.61,11 COaniniecnntre of I!. etajesty'e Treater:l' or the Chancellor 14 the Exchetrw, rt a:mu:one the idadraw v"e 1 , 610 the letnk any sums tt: hussies su isseed, OSCO the 1. csaitet of the Mt of hie S:•141 tics. iii. c. ill. ; your Coes• • mutes ile not fi ad that Inv each re.prtnentetions hate been ever triad* to the Lords Cenimissionete of lbs Ma;est . .'; fres su ry. nor any seen r •peesereatimie to the Clialteei to, of the Is chequer ; except wins*. stated ill 01, evidence annex. d of Mi. Reikeit, and is admitted in the evidence of afr. Pitt : 64..11 whence it appears, that some time in the year 1797, Mr. Rail cs, at that time Governor of the Bank, had micas nn to held an o'ficial ante course with Mr. Pitt uy the authority of the Batik ; and that when the official buss tees Val over, in consequence ot information which lie had received (rem Mr. lialcit and Mr. Newland, he to'd Mr. Pitt, in coasersetion, of II 1 haeme heard at the Bank that morning, that the Treasurer of the Nevi now kept testi at Messrs corms and Company'', and that Navy Bills were peel by drafts on Messrs. Coutti tee Com pany, instead of drafts upon the Bank; and that Mr. Pitt thanked him for the information ; that the above was tile tour port of the communicatiou to Mr Pitt, though the length of tine that had intervened prevented his being sure as to the terms of it. Mr. Pitt a links the general import of the communication, with some difference Duly as to the term, of it ; which he do s nut undertake to recoil...et with eccurace, but Metes it iu sub stance fa have conveyed to him an I.npressiom, that SUM"; were drawn from the Bank ant car.imi to a Irritate banking house, tea larger amount than was supposed nec.ssaty ; that he took art rally opportunity of gating to Lord Melville, the Inforinatiort given by Mr. Itaikas ; an.l though he cannot 4t its precisely what further tossed between himself and Lard Mel ville 1111 , n the subject, it impresool hint with a belief, that thought sums ware drawn front tee Bank, ',id !Aged at a pri vate banking Weise, no Suet* were so tratateneJ, but such as were neceseety to carry on the detail' of the service in laymen' to individuals; and that it was difficult to carry On the sarnits payments in detail in any other way; that he del not house( particulaily advert to the provisions of the Act, nor did it ueciat to him, that drawing from the Bank such sum% as wore lie. cereal fur carrying on the details of service, wre an illegal practice; that relying on the opinion of L oot !Melville, ha made no investigation intaglio neemeity of the taractute, and was so far satisfied with the general stateria-nt gore to him, that he did nut think it necessary to communicate the eirtunt• stance to any other of His Majcsty's senorita, to make any further enquiry, or to hike any further steps up in that stihjict ; that he, Mr. Pitt, had no knowledge or s intter.atioa Cl any irregularity in the Managem ent of the public realty advareed for naval services, except trout such cnnemunication af Mr. Raikes, till he was acqutiotet, after he was out Or 4fi.,..,:, ivy Lord tlarrowby ; th it he, Lord Harrowbe, thou glit the prat ilee which prevatleil in tete respect had br..n ine:War, serf was taking sops to Pot • stay to it. Thlt he, Mr. Piet, had no knowledge or newer te su.pect any prgete teeth was made of the naval W•hltF, of tligt the 1 , 0.1 o ..• Or the Office was so coedit:toil as t. admit of it, till the • ...ter satiou with Lord Harrowby ; nor had lie any km - tat:dee that private . profit had in fait been mate, not oat any uaval money, except the 49,01 at. had been dint-rtal to purposes not amid, previous to th . enquiry that toot place before thoCummiamerers of Naval I. eine ; ant I o.d llar• amby, iii his evidence before , tl, uls/ , •at, i t ~ea ~ a Homo _ diately appear to him,_.fa. the • • - , . ain his seal Iter, when h., was appoioted Tre. ..• .. .: '• .y til June, 18 )0, that nit nraet4., of drawing{ n •. n :, •,elane iuto tits hands ot a pricate beaker, if carried ... '..nn e le for tee ',tar pon of official eonvettiraces, tad for : • mu.- on;y, win meccas tarty illegal, or iattended to .., ... :.... lc I Ike the Act. • Upon the last smetetterf the e, , • - y •eferral In us, as to the proem:dints hid for en.• recov.ey the de it due to tne Crown bythe tato Arlan, echoes.; it . ~.re, is Ins Tenth Report, p. 159, and the evirienee to ate Anperidot or ties Report there in referred to ! that the proper'? .4 1.1.• late Mr. Ream Jell'- cog returned by the inqui , itissa taken upon the extent is sued in August 1759, had all beers no el, ant tae pr trees car ried to ateeitet, twig ant•eceden to the Wait of Privy Seal, dated ealst M.., idea; ene.,,t the pritent of Mr Con, a term at Sheifiefd, a oar-noose sod west f at iiirepert, awl a manila ge at Portsmouth Conorneti ; all which re:nista stall utoold. It atop cars also, that the sum of. 4,0001. was due to Mr. Adam Jeilleue front lea son Mr. !Came I denier- ; will, in his cv drtiee before +he Commit...tie:tem of Naval Inquiry, states that von to hate beets ad: aacal to hiaa by his father upon h's entering into brattiest, but that it aypearad as a deer du* front him on hi, father's books. As to the parent, it does not seam that any opportnnite has occurred, teems!' en league:. have bean us 1, to meet, it available, t i any orbits., purpose; to. fatal at Shetfiele t.ai been 4.llC.cit poS.llSiOli of '.y the mortgagee. As to the warehouse aa.l wharf, Wlliel WA valued in the inquatteen at 1,0001. it has been I tit to Mll.SartiuelJelocee at the rent sat leo.. a yea , , on the 2314 So oeinaer, 17 1 11, 17,01. and on the V let of Mae I.IUO, !Wel. f - ten years, ant a quager's tent off the sai d when' and Ware .owe was purl %.y Mr. 8.1.1111 ti Jel'it...ot• Us Mr. Trotter, rei aceorot of tae 'flea ionor of the Navy; scut as to toe 4.0091. it apipelN 'het Sartowl Jellicoe, oat helve ahle to dikharea the dad, sti agreement w..s ent..rcd lee., either between hint aril Mr. White, or ft.:arse him and \le erott•r, thit be thaillil pay it by inetzlincrits of 2001. a years and that, on the same 4 4 ..f September, t7e! . 1011 and on the sane 2la of May, 15,11, 1,7501 was paid ' , Mr. Trotter, We the instaliesats that be cane doe to the tat et If March. I;;00. As to the meomeen at Portsmouth Cemmoe, lett at lel a year, tie reeteeeineeett to hat" heels I,taited Iront it, nor any procenhog+ hail relatve to it, •hilt••••qtleat to tine secant and in tprisiteei :—since the said 41 it of et or 1850, no vent to: the iell.trf aid wur4ltutoe, now any further rustaltnents ore the 43001. have been paid, out any measures adopted tor the re covery theteoi % Mr. Pitt, who in May 1500 was, Chance for of the Exch.- quer, but who went out of °Cm early in the !ear ensui..g, ha hi examination beige ui. states, that he understood orecteut direttiont had originally been given to the Soliettur of the . I . ref,- suir• to• take ali rucasarret necessary for that purpos; aoil Mr. White, Scheitne to the Teaser,. who wns emeloyed on the ...canon, hi the year 1796. by Mr. Trotter, oat behalf of the Treasurer ..f the Navy, admits that the instrnetions he recsieed were li.e iiiw.ructions usually wets un similar OCCIIIOfPI, and that umler those Glavin.' tirstroetiorie, without valuing fu tut , Our (fide's ha thought it hi. 4.4 y to proceed, whilst them were ran; igstelectlects Guru whirls herpes could be entertait ed of [ recovering any fo.ther sums in di•eltaege of the trean.e due from Mr. 'elite-Ditto lila pate ; lie also states, that ti.0u.,..h he had received such general instructious as befmegneettomei, yet he thought hirneelt charged only with con tu tuna Cie tau Ira. eezdings, and that be andmucrai Mr. Trotter 04 1.1.:en up .11 "mused to examine into the state of the prepetty ed Mc. dallicoe that was recoverable, and had employed per sons for that purpose; rid Mr Trottel . aTiears to have coltemSed such tart of the cicada and property Of Mr. Adana jrt tiro. as be had an opportuitity . of renairrisig, tilt Lord Mel yhie had prnenrod the writ of Privy Seal ; who being thereby indemnified from the charge that Mood against him on account of Mr. eiglicoe'sdeticieney, Mr. Trotter no hover comearted himself und-r the tieceioty of acting so the sticiit‘e 111 which he had before acted without any par trcoler authority in ea:resi due ; and Mr. Whit., not having hear) of tot writ of Privy S ;al till seer the examination that touk place beture the Cent mOsionera of Naval Enquity, and having ecceleed no docetens either from MI. Totter or any other itersnit since the year 1792 or 1793, has not from that period taken any steps wait ever relative to thesubject i but adds, the rents due may he now recovered ; and Mr. Trotter was ion able to recollect any debts dale to the late Mr. Adam Jellicue that lie 1:011slakftel as re • i covemble. Your Cnmmitte•, duly considering the reference under which their 11 , ..fefl ire derived, have era felt Menisci via et li• betty to come to a•oy specific resolutions on the• merits of the several van-anions which have teen the subjeas of their eta quiry ; they have deemed it even niure consistent with their duty, to abstain from otoervations, which might szem to convey a judgment upon any of these points in question. They have endeavoured to give the !louse a'correct sum- mary of Cie material parts of the evidence, confining their re maths strictly within the limits of explanation; leaving the CJIIC:11110:111 to by deduced therefrom alh.gether tot the wiwilm of thullause :—but have thought it right to annex, in the ap pendix, the is to-le et the evidence taken before them; eons,- tiering this CU UrSC of proceeding, under all the eircumstadees, as likely to prove more satisfactory to the House, than if they bad omitted those parts, which, upon a minute review, t►ey might have thought nut Onmediatz.y relevant to the abject of enquiry ; tresti..if, that if in u,sy instance the examination should appear to have exceeded th i strict line of iiivestiotfon prescribed to then:, it wilt he attntidted to the desire they have felt to execute, in this fullr..t mender, the duty Unmated to tsar bl the 114 ave. [Hi trAlettoSTtost 07 Ter IIIGrIT BOW. "FILL!** PITT; Teken Ins Cris Or MAY, 1805. Do T . ig 2i i resenyinstawc, of Malley. owned for flaraltlertlte, ap died te !n0v0...6 not Naval ?—I kesee of one SUCh !Lye Cie ethsitivas to state it!—lt was ere ad ranee Made from Naval Lumley, us the coulee of the year 179 G ;...l think Lite in the mummer .0 in the autumn 17 , 4; I am cot t ascertain the recite tit .e ; it was made to the &sine of Nheart Boyd t o il Denied, who were then Contractor. for tat/ loans 1.4 G - vrratotrol ; the advance was the sum of 40,000:. It watinole le sousevuence of a teprooseittatital, I hat, Loot the chltcsety which existed at that limo id obtatheor draft i., even on pond seetinty, they were under suet. pecuniary en.harraideamits es would prevent their making good all hotelitient doe to GP. yernmient Ulete.tionable securiti,, were g.ieli for the re• payment of the adwnce ; and, instrr these ciocumeramees, knowing 'mother ii'ary ot the time by .114:1, seriuti• mimed( f le public service could be prevented, and end. retandiug that the Naval service was net Ilk, ly to suffer any inceevenienee (run tin.advance,i concurred in opinion wiles the Treasurer of the Nary, that it was advitable to make it. Inept b-g the Com• miner to titiderstend, that 1 can only state the general substance of the transaction to the ben of my recollection, not being able to recall all particulats at this distance of time. To whom were the pecuniary embarraveineetsef the house of Boyd and Itlnfield made myself and fend Melville. At the tame time'—Whether separately or jointly 1 cannot undertake to say, hut I rather believe both wars. With whom did the proposition for the relief of the hoots. of Boyd awl Bonfield, by means which were afterwards resnited to, originate ?-4 ens confiderst the suggestion re sue moms mutt have originated with the Treasurer of the Navy. Did the Treasurer of the bi ivy stele in what manner he meant to obtan the. money !—I do net recollect that Ise did ; but I understood generally, that it was room" which could in his opinims be spored fur a time without inconvenience, presided there wee sutficient security fur its repayment. Ile you knew in pont of fact how it was obtainolT-1 do 11.. t. horn me "wit knowl:fige. 1),,I you etiqeire into the nitwe of the 'crudites diet were taken, ix their amount was satofied at the tints t h at the te-orittee offered were inch as might baedeeended upon, end I titian I tritel.frit.md them to consort either ot Navy Bills, or of loth which lied been accepted by the East India Company, which were to fall due at successive periods; but 1 do not re collect having myself semi the seeurities. DO you concurs the tmusactuiti to be irregulu and illegal ? crtainly considered it as irregular; 1 do not know it ue eurred to tie et the time it was positively illegal ; but 1 have no ihriculty in saving, that I was so strongly impressed with the belief of its importance and urgent necessity, with a view to essential public interests, that 1 shmeld have thought it me duty to incur the risk of committing an irregular and illegal act, rather than expose the public to the mischief which thought would otherwise infallibly have arisen. Dot you make any memorandum in s wrirtog of the transac tion or sot part of it I did not. ad you lake any steps towards obtaining an indemnity of such an irregularity, committed with your knowledge and con currenee!—Ne, !did not: and 1 conceive that it was impossible for me to have dune so, without disclosing circumstances which most have beeu highly luiurious to the mercantile house it con cerned, arri might have in a great measure tended to counter act the object: of the public service which I had in view. When such delicazy as to the disclosure of the transaction had ceased, dud you take any twit steps?—! have never hitherto taken one inch Steps; the delicacy attending such disclosure could never, I conceive, be censedired as having ceased, till after the hose in question became bankrupt. When did that happen ?—I really do nut recollect, but it was 3 considerable time, I believe three or (our years, after the temsaceion; and I confess the necestity or applying fee indem lin 161 not then prepen Mita ' to my mind. Were any of the other public servants acquainted with the traltaction ?—I believe no others, with the eiteeptian of Mr. Leog, tee one of the Secretaries of the Treasury, throaels il,•l\ the motley was to ,elvanced. Da you Lama any thug about the reesyment of the money, or the petiole at which it was repaid ?-11 on:y know it as 1 learned it (tom M , . Lung. and 1 cannot sate precisely peril cuter put:ads; but I uuleateed getinally a large proportion of at to ice within a short time. Di, you know whether it hat all been repaid ?ea have no douse. but it I.as. 1) . yeti know of the eeistence elf any document any where, at the time u ranee. we sow, by whit. the Publ..: ctia:d ha:c mow et the kuowledge of this transaction do not know of any moniora.wham or floeulatelit made at the time, or since ; but I conceive, that if the monies had not been puuctaa:ly re , rail. the seestrithe depisited must have led to ascertain to shoo the advances were made. Tee Maley beiii: paid, and the s-euritiee of Muriel feturnad, was there, or is there any other source of such information ! Noe e, that I know of, but the evidence of the partiee curiestued. suppueing the death et such parties, was there, or l 4 there, any such evidence at all i—None, that I know se, mote tee tepayment of the sums. • Do you know ot any other advances of money issued for navy service: to pa-poses not naval, at ar.y tiine, or of any de s:6,3lmi b—so„ I do not know of any such advances. TA: furt';er Examination of the Right Donountble Wiliias Pitt; Liken the 7th ot May 180). Was any interest pied by Meets. Boyd teem the loan of 40,00G1. I-1 do not know that there was. Why was it not pail ?—No d.inen.l was mule. Du y o u recollect any ether Invoice ml pab.ic money ad vanced to commercial 1•00•4.1114 in winch interon sea. i.ot de mander; ?—I il• not recollect soy tinnier installer of such as advance. Do you recollect any ether instance where *rattiest has not beer. paid Fur what rz:.4ort was the d of interest omitted can assign no specific reason ; it did lot ...car to me to be necessary. What *tithe amount of meerey hemmed eat the year :711e ? cannot take upon myself tae say at this mural:fit. Do you recollect how molly loan , wets ma r ls in that - year ?—• 1 cannot now state it wilco any security, but there was ems mole in Deeeintee, 1705. Was Mr. Boyd emitrattor for all 4r any of the loans made in 1795. ? -1 arn sure he was contratter for the lean male ateut December, 179); Ide not rye:Alan any preceding loan. Was tne lean of December 179) a duce loth, or a lean by, public bid ling ?—There seas one of the LUAUS with Mr. !kyle dose loan, but cannot tete lest which. Do you recollect that Mr. B iyd lai d claim to the loan In De ectutaor, 17e), in eensequence of any prooloto transectheas '1 you and him, or et soy :maerstauding that lied tekeu tette between you cote it take maim myself to state these cirmaindawes noir with accuracy 11;roll recollection; and I b.rg to refer to the exataititUacnis that ward taken 'lieu the treaties:- 4mi wit recent. Wes ts tt s loan of 7000,0011. or thereabouts, contracted for in iw ...omit the month of April. 1795 believe these W 6%. Mr. Boyd Contractor fen that loan ?..--qe was. Wad List achi .. or open loan ?.-al do not now recollect. De yeti recollect about what tame the housed Boyd stated to you their dulicu 11 s fog the tie .t tame?-1 do not. Can you recollect whether it was ptelflt.U4 to the loan of the tering 17%!--1 believe tint. Ds you recollect a nneee given by the Bank in laecernber, 1793, of their intention to narrow their discounts recollect such a notice being given, but I camuat now state at what me- - cue period. Was that notice acted upon'-1 understand it was. Do you recollect a general complaint, that Cie acting upon that notice had tended to airman the ennui raitinent prevail ing in the c.immercial world at that tone t-1 recullsA mach complaint of that nature. Did Mr. Boyd make any particular and speciic com?laintto you of his own embarrassments, in consequence of the con. duct of the Bank !—I believe he complain-AI of as effects. Had you auy ~outinurilcatititt with the Governor and Com pany of the Bank ou this sub;ect tlitir conduct ?—1 mink I had conversation on the subject of their conduct in narrowing their discounts at different tunes. you recol:ect the date es the firit N.w•lda not. Can you gin the Coruinittee any information as to the pro bible date of su.:h communication really cannot, as lda nut at present recollect when the measure was adopted. Cur uu recollect the teillOtli assigned by the Governor and Co.ipanv of the Batas of Englaud for their coadu4l in so nar rowing their discounts aa-A, well as I recasts, but I cannot at this ili:tance time iyeak with er taint., the reasons ass ri.rd were the decrease of their posszasion, and a dfs.ta to eheck speculation, to whicti the.' th git thaws a4culants we: e Dii any rt't ar c•tv:rtaliavi tab pia!, cn th-r ^..b;-et of the house titoyd and Catupany, in your no.stina: - ..wa tx, with the B tnk, or •.w that Anwar naen:iunxt in any co,itrenta- Con; :h3t p tscd at tint le-riot ?-tolrath.tr think, that house hat: bran mentioned nt *taint onatznotatans butt caniaelt AO recollect with any inn. D., you r-eolle.t the graft of any sada ceaesb nG atio retard.% to that ho ?•-No?•-No, , nor. Did the hoese of Bo; d or seer stale to gall that the Bank weer nod ill then diszonoto id Vial boos as to others ?--1 think they %dd. Did you eatiire into the rewire of the particular conduct of the Bank inward. tisit 11.Ilate do uot r eo ,lloo that I did. Do vita recoiled any general year fOrY ha.o rO. reived fr n ro any quarter of 11104ra...rt. for that part.c.alar Con dom %-1 d., not. When was eon find informed of the *linger in whi.:b that boom found itsiif mono' Say ;in toe course ui toe year 1796, I believe Was that danger ascribed be them In the narticelar contact of the Bank towards thou ?—To the best of my 'cc Wag. Do you believe the conduct of the Rank towards them at that time to have bean an exception to inch then gsiteral con duct?—! do not kit As , that it was, but I have nut sufficient knowledge of the particulars to form a judgment on thin aohject. Was it so stated to be by Boyd and Cons;aany ?—1 rather think that they repriteented AU opinions that lint coudect or the Bank was adenine! with views uufevowitile to them. Have you any reason to believe such re,inuereis i o .s were well founded hire had nil incans of forming a ;-.lgule.t usin that suhiect. Do you beiime the Batik to have been wider difficulties about that period believe the difficulties of the ft isle. which led to the anspensiou of their payments in cash in the February following, were iummeileiag its that ) ear , m pierha2s the preceding flare you any reason to lychees those difficult:es to have In• termltted, or have been impended aboot the pernid a these vance Messrs. Boyd, of 40,0%:1"—I do net at present reed lezt any reaesn fur with belief. Did you know that the 4*,0001. so advance,: woulil be drawn from the Bank?-1! tad nos knaeledge sf the particular mode by which theteum would be furnished. Did you believe it would come out of the public money ada wanted for navy services?—t .lid. Ought not such money, acennre4 to law, to remain in the Bank till assigned to, or drawn for pariculir nevy services?... Yes, I conceive so. Were you atthe time aerate of each legit provisions?-1 certainly must have known the existence of ti‘e Act; hut Its particular provision was net at that time owlet any eon. temptation. Did the Governor or Deputy Governor of the Mink of Eng land, in the information which they pee to you of one of the seisons which ir.ilitezd them to narrow thairetiscOldt 1, namely, for tlm purpose of checking specuiatton, alhul• at all, or in any way to the haus, of itoyell—l cannot taste upou myself is say 6 titer way. Did the Governor or Depot? Governor of the Bank a' Eng land, in the inf....mato.. they gave !ova the reason. 1,4 the:, conduct in narrowina their di•conota, state the necessity for their so doing, in ceostg ..e.ce of the I age ad , anc.a under which they were to Government. and which had nut been re placed accord.ng to agreement , --I think they wade repreeer rations to that etfe-9 ; het for the particulars I wound larg again to refer to examinatisns a h:ch ace .a.en before the Commits • tee soon after that periel. Had you sr../ nonet trinsactions on ti part of Ph, puhlie with the house cf doid. .iiiasvouent to the Loan of the sp:,g 17% tnink there was an :ssue of naoriey to thion for poly lie service, which ap,:eaiud in the eart_art.r.ary of Co :17.4 in 1747. To what amount'—it will appear by the Extraordinaries think about tonouoi and, as well at I recoltt,a, it was :or the remittance of silver from India to the Cape. Did Coley apply to y-ou, or were they comperOori for any Lean to tin Loan for the spring; 1796!..1 do not re tolled. Was any information give's to yet', or hal you any rrawad to baiieve the hose of FSoyd and t:Ovrltriay were erred in suer-orations to any 'mown beside their engagements for the LOaheliegotiaterl with them '-1 tmdersteort theta to be en gaged in veto ostensive pocutiiaiy or mercantile transactions as Stinkers and Remitters, but I bad no l.n :Arledge of the per. cry information giventt yOtt. Cr Wei flogs: eat, 4 the probability of toe event which actrat'y took "lace, namely. the fsilure athe hour! f and Cilltaalli ?-1. heard sur mises to that etttrt, but I cannot say at what Can you say that it was net at adtaaNtrr peito.l than the or• at which the 40,0091. was adrandlil7-1 do not thirst that it was Pb you know any thins or the causes which led to that thhitee?—Nothtoit 4y. Hate you beard oh ,t :has: canes were!--I cannot pretend to recolhct them now with Ince Woo ; the n a rrow.rig the tia countu of the Bank, and their refusal m 1174 i to mar 1•.1 CilsliOlneCli advances on the ban, well, Stated as eir,: , riestuncts ' t oy prejudicial to them ; hot haw lac theta waft tho tastes ' th..ir•ultituate failure, I canmt rid goalvex liter there tre , .: spatco!atort in the public funds at the period of th.! oego , iations at Lisle have heard such tenor, but know nutlithe of the sullict. What was the mein: of ti.c injury theeoblit was Megy to sustain from a full disclo...ire of all thwencemstances relating vs the advance made to M....r0e 8.r,t1 Ltd Benfield, a. soon they had made goal a!1 thajostahnents of the loan meant iii that part of my anew-r, ii amity par.:ctilady to the, pertod while the inualments of Me loans ,:ere not made ; the injury aettrintni, to the phb!fc trou'el have bee, that of dhe failure of any great mereanrile house; bpt in that latter period, the prioci; al mason I assign d fur avo:ding diselostre was, tee injuriotht infect it would have upon the patties theme Dyes. Do you conceive the 40,0001. advanced to. Mr. hoyd, if it had not been so advanced, would have been productive of any intermit to the public ?-1, con •co rye certainly not. Will you state generally to the Committee, what sou recol lect to have been the state of the money market in the course of the year 17911, and the A-ginning of the year I:tri hastl con e.eive it to have been a period of the gie.t of embarraminer.t, both of public and private credit, and it led to the scrim. mance of the .toppageof the payment of case Ly the 3srk the spring 1797. From the then state of the money minket, in cats Mr Gard had failed in roakir.g goad his intyinelit.., and the cor..r.ert, for the two loans then in pr.treas of nay Incet h 'seen I :solved, do you conceive a new loan could have be , to ',nom .id f - ,- public on terms equally advate ~e7tl . :l l y et.' vitteed that it would not, and rho' :he emhat:a - s:nent that it would hate eceasimA to the pn'Aie se•vice would have t- 'cm of the most wrious arid alarming na:ure. le the then state of the market, wool(' it have b"...b Inter to have trade a lea in lieu thereof ?—tio, it emit.• h ere beam extremely difficult. and 1 beim,e hopcmible, mile•s u?oti tt unfirourable tams. Tu what extent do you concive the failure of Mrs • loan would have effected the general wrath of the county To a very glen and Serious elaCtit.. Would the effect Late been total as tie teen: 'r the fifi'llm.nt of any future contral to be made with other I..‘riiee, in a c Itt vrderable degree, j•rreariohs and tILICT:List!--That of opinion of which I cans d trek petittirhy, l J 1 I 1...% 6.••et would have been great ti.anger of such so efft't - Have you any loiowlerlge of a certain sum cf puhhe roc^ .y. amounting to 10,00111. helm, in the heads of Lor l -'.lJt.".e to the beginning of the year have not The further Examinnicrn of the il:ght Hon. Wt.liani Pitt; laivni the silt at May, IS-I Were any representations at any le o ,. A s to n. to eau by L oy Male, of the circtimstance of money ia.l.le,k t.i the 113. A for Nary Services, being diaou from thcoev,and el is tie hat da of a Wit/de Ranker of Batter .•e , a geotril t•'fulerti - a, that Mr Itokoff, one of the Rao: Oireelfra, a d 1 urn. ve r• - • - Govern,ir or Deputy Coretioiri.; the tint-, hail, - 0 ,,• to mention to nw, that Ire b, , ;i-ved sum- stare in • Bank to a larger atnouitt tt an he sup;.thed to b. attar, es Ty, and carriid to a private Ba , iket's, but nh l ini,aorainlam or cement of any s..rt was grim to me ; anti .t !ha d.ft.ner u: Salta*, 1 L. 411 only state the s instance .1 what 1 .4.3,3 very generally, and cannot molt:claire with ally prec.mon to recoiled the paitict.larr. Had you arty communication w•th the Treasorrr if ti,' bevy in co•ileciotnce of what Mr Rules had tad yen ha 4 ; I took sit early uppunnnity of metal to litUt 'ha 0011. oft f , unit Mr. Ratiteshad stated to me. Wu-t fts.the.l.swed on the suke.t ?-ICatelet .!ate pridiNif , pro Adi