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• • • Mr. C. fluictlinaN dettie.l that the N 0.,. Mem ber had to ele such rte attempt as hal been sun bitted to him, that of paw iota the case in the ab sence of the individuals cemented ; it was, on tied. : i ng that the House was against Ins motion, without further grounds, that he declared himself willing to go iuto the titiV, lint out from ray wish to take valita i ze of the o'isenee of an y p er , o , i ;* H e would not have troutiled the Unitise. but for the ettranriboary tarn which. the debate lied taken. Ode would suppose, from the opinion of some geutleinen, that, instead of being the creatures of the people, as they really were, they .were self-cre.iteil, and of a nature independent, and distinct. If etch it line of delinte was permitted to be carried on, if they were allowed to call Member. of l'arliasoriit to aerostat for attending public meet. in s, authonseil by the coorlitutionminl necessary. to the liberties of:the people, a Oat in Clad rin tr i v anniel Mll4lll become from an honour r degradistiou. We 411.1 not live in so icze of purity, there was no thing its the character of the time., not h ing i n t h e late isroceediic„,es of winch that Jinn." wits witness to justify any one in saying that Itefurin wits not ma.:easary : if they wished to defend the constitutioit in its purity, the hest way wile to correct its defects when they Wri%! found. Mr. W. wywNg ma , some difficulty in nega • tieing the itiotio.i its the: present intoner. Certaio ly on charge was made.; but from what lout fallen from the [la' i„ Gentleman, ensue charge was t o b e expected. Flowerer. the Ifoose, lie thought, could not agree to examining witnesses at the liar. it ith out oserrtoiiiiiig• whether thou evidence new such as would jiistify the inuestigation: if witnesses were to be csinitiiteell sit the btr mime every charge, there would be ao rod to the public business. After some enoversation Itetweeit the 5P64E111.,. and M nuncus, C INN sa, %V ntTbacta, and P.sgS9N ay, as lit OW duty eiNtil which the in. vrAtigatileit should tulle place, Thursday next was agreed upon. The Question being then put, was carried, with out a division. Lard PoitmtusTmt gave notice, .Ihat. he would move fur a Coinisiittee to smirch Abe Jenniels of the Lord.., for precedents of proceedings. in c*lt of Divot cc. CHELSEA HOSPITAL. Sir OSWAI,D Alois:/.t rip,. to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice, respectiug certain tramiactions relative to Chelsea HieMita'. Ile was prepared to expect opposition; but he would *tete the grounds upon which h.: went. and leave it to the House to decide upon their justice. It was rattier a reniarlculde circumstance, that the application of Coi. Gordon for the hind was made previous to the report upon the propriettof. rept nig it. (The flout. Member, 'in the course of his speech, referred to some letters, principally from the surveyors who valued the grounds, in support of his positions.) The ground, he t•eid, was pur chased from Lord Yarlmioughoinder the idea that the whole was to be r.pplied to the purposes of the Hospital. it was stated iu the Sol :I , p - 4 -General's report, that the :milord value of the lund was dimi nished by the erectuni ole new infirmary; but if it ap. pearedthmt an to hrldual was accommod4ted at the expense and to tile injury of a mobile iiistitution, it was au aft deserving he strongest and mo s t d ec i s i ve reprobation. He oFjeeterl to the trani.uction upon two thirds Ilecutthe he thought that no part of the preinisesshouhl be disposed of, for be would pot it to the liberality of the House, and of Go vernment itself, whether the whole ought not be applied to the purposes of the flospital, and the comfort and convenience of those for whom it wits originally designed. 2d. He objected to it, bc (rause the laud so let, was let for an inadequate rent. He next adverted to the Surveyors employed by the Surer yor-Geueral, to inspect the lands of Chelsea. It stated that 551. per year was sufficient for/ the part applied for by Colonel Gordon, 011 account of the Hospice!, which stood near it.— There was a smell buildinif upon the ground, not a part of Lord Yarborough s presnises, but belong ing to the Hospitab• which suffered great dilapi dation, in consequence of the new building which was carried on. He did not know aliether the Holmdel was compensated for such an injury to its property, though he was sure that it ought. The Surveyor, bed been very careful of Cot. Gordon ; they had taken care to take ioto their consideration every circumstance unfavourable to him iii the purchase, and to deduct accordiugly from the amount they would agree to charge lion. They found that it would be necessary for lion to en• close the land in a great wall. The annual repair of which they ertimated at it large amount, any one would undertake to keep it in repair for 101. per year. He understood that u paper had been lately circulated, representing the immense ex pense of this wall, which was to swallow all the pro fits of the bind. Whatever the expen-e might be,. it did not strike him as a matter' for which ally de duction should be made. Colonel Gordnii was• aware of the inconvenieneies before lie took the land. He (Sir 0. al.) had made some inquiries respecting the value of the lend. He understood from many gardeners, that the annual rent of ordi nary groused, -without the advatitages of richness and situation, which th it pO,I4CP,tII, any twenty rounds an acre, at which rate the land let to Colonel Gordon would produce Sol. per year, 041 that Colima Gorduil had it upon cheaper terms than any gardener in the neiglilmurhood would he willing to give for it : he was persuaded that if he (Col. Gordon) would determine to let it out be would make a considerable profit on it. The most evil port of the Report was that which dwelt upon the diseases of the soldiers ; he would have hoped that their wounds world not have been raked up. He vri:iheil that the Governor had looked more to the advantage of the publicilian of his friend Colonel Gordon. Ile was by no menus satisfied with the information which the letters contained upon the subject, and therefore it was his intention to submit a motion, for the purpose of procuring more intelli gence. lle had no personal animosity to Colonel Conlon ; he would he us willing that lie should po.srui the ground as any other individual ; but he could not admit that any individual slinuld ; lie would have it applied to the purpose for which it was purchased, the benefit of the Hospital. If he was iwrinitted, he would undertake to prove, that most of the Officbrs had reaionstrateil against the tale, if not to the Board, to the Governor himself. There was no other way of doing this than by wit eLases at the Bar. He therefore hoped, that there 1 .L.Svgat . . -- ;--. • - would he on election to their production. He concluded tenth moving the follow Is ,L 7 IZt,1011.1t1011: Rl'ilUilrea....llllll a Comasii tOe be appuinaol to Ineralexata eettsiu 10.11.1.5C1 IMN 111111 ;ti to at Chelsea Hoapl sit a. it seso to II:1 PA, 1 , 14•5 C to CWO,4 Gordo,'; and thud it Iv a Comm tbt whale noose. it was his 141. *cotton to pavlova. Ili CTI4IICt; if be wo:i,j p ot galued, nowt , it n , atOunc *hue; were Sic D. Wu:Am Meteor !Resets, Pity aaSau to lie Hospital, Mr.. those, ;sal Mr. ' Poore" .Ir. l'Enctivat, said. that linwevvr Site House. li might decide snit respect to the propriety of hives,' ligation, he could istoircely . think the lloss. Baronet was sincere. when he proposed that I;sat tuvestigatissu should be cotaluetell by a Committee of the wh o l e Noose. lie ent,ertaisied hopes that the stoteirouit which he was about to make, would sati,ty the Hon. Baronet. The Governors of the Hospital had sod inquiry- nu foot. aid after-a. conversation with Colonel Gordon. he lint declared Isitoreff pa tisfied that the space should lie extruded for the convenience of the I lospital. It was its agitstiou Iv huild a new Intirmary, sand if the whole of the grouted was tunnel to he iseCessaty. although sin le gal step cued be resorted to to dissolve the cols tract between Colonel Gordon and the Treasury, -they would do all ha their l etwir to prevail opals hint to surrender ;t up. He hoped that that would be enough. or if aoy farther proceeding was adopt ed. that it would be a tnntion for any further papers that tnight be (lett/sett necessary. lle thd not see how any biai:te could attach to thosewho filled the higher offices, the chargestguinst whom was that they bad j.?.lgesl t h e lands, not by their own eyes. but by the eyes nt surveyorsow wits directed by suct.te and law. At all events, he hir„sad that they *mild mot attach such importance to the question, as to vote for a Committee of the whole Honor. Mr. iltemuLen thought that as there were other papers which would tend to elucidate the trimaac lion farther, it would be well to have them. it would he necessary for Colonel Gordon to keep his garden iu order; but he did nut see why any de duction should be Made upon that account. Lord Slavin agreed with the Right Fionnurable Gentlemen opposite, that for the House to resolve itself into n Committee of the %%hole Hons.:. C M su c h an occasion, would lie beneath its dignity ; hut he could net agree a ith him, that the appointment of a select Committee lies a measure vary should all stain from. His chief reason fur rising was, to no tice some ill-treatment which the ;venom who was migilially the owner of the land had received ; lie had been represented us haiiiig acted the part of u Jew—the ;keratin to whom he alluded was Lord Yarliorougli. lit the year leos his Lordship was appli.al in by the exiating Govesninent for a to ureal of the lease, which he refused; hut on tieing told that it was necessary to the Hospital, heiieter mined to comply ; aecordiogly a surveyor wus;called in to value the land on the part of Goverinneut; who veined it et 4.8001. and one on the part of Lord Yarboroiegh, who valued it at 80001. Thu uego. elution ties broke o:r by the death of r. When it was again renewed, two surveyora were op. pointed, as before. nail a third was act as a sort nflinipire between them. They valued it at 4.7001.; met, Notwithstanding Unit Sir Joseph Balks represented it . to Lord Yurburougls at under the value, he accepted ,of the terms. Such had I been his cauda-t in the transaction; he had closed with a diaailvantageaus Ikargail instead of having attempted to run %la the Goviewnsteat tti - a large emount. The basiness of the mils to Col. Or/411011 had, her milt aced, to hms somewhat the appearance or a j 0!) ; the trusts were such as to entitle it to that epithet. Mr. Lit sutra said, that in what fell from him upon a fernier ACCdslOll, he did not mean to throw the slightent reflection upon the Nubile Lord. The fact was that Sir Joseph Bunkes mill the To cur appointed one reference, by whose decision they agreed to he bound ; that he valued it at 4.7001. which was accordingly the sum unreel upon./ regretted greatly that any thing which (ell- front hits should appear to be intended agaiitsit the Noble Lord, and was happy to avail himself of that opportunity to dtsclaini it. With respect to the ((nest ttttt immediately hefieut the House, he arid not think that there was any iseceasity fur going into a Committee. Colonel Woo. defended the character of Cu). Gordon, as the list man, he was convinced, who woatil be capable of depriving the soldier of his right ; he had served les country in every quarter of the globe, and the sit tortiiiii he now filled, what ever gentlemen might think of it, was one of great labour, otampied in the incessant discharge of the important duties of his office, without intermission, from morning to night. He firmly believed he would not swept of may thing which would injure the soldiers, and therelare he would give his vote rigninst the motion. Indeed, su far was the grant to Colonel Gordon fi mit bring an injury to the pensioners, that for the number, or them, there was more then sufficient accommodation ; because such Were the advantages 4:trending the out-pensioners, that time men generally preferred being of that class to belonging to the hospital. Earl Pi.lice said a few cook against the inn- tion ; but sparking front under list gallery, we could lint distinctly hear his Lordship. Sir Feasters B1)111)1iTT did not mewl to take.up much of the time of the House, but could not re frain from making some observations on what lie I , had heard in the comae of the night. lie could not wonder at what had fallen front an Honourable Member opposite to him (Colonel 'Wood), relative to the men preferring to be out rather than in pensioners, when they were to be deprived of their comforts. Dr. Moseley had said in liiiiexamiva lion, that an opportunity o ff ered of enlarging the Hospital ground, but lie had said nothing of a part of that ground in question heing soffit:tent ; mid yet the Colonel, who, it was asserted, was incapable of taking advantage of the soldiers, had taken all he could get on the occasion.— With resnect to the papers laid before the House on the subject, he considered them as altogether defective in point of information, as they hail nei ther the report of the Physician Nor Surgeen' to say that they approved of the disposition inside of the ;pound. As to its being a public job, idtlimigli we were asserted by the Right Honostreble Gen tlemen opposite to be more pure and free from corruption than our ancestors, yet he valid not help viewing it with rather a jaimiliceti eye, when he saw that although upwards of buuUl. was given by Government for the short re:natant* terns of the _ .• _ • • spot, yet it was sacrificed for the pidirelitisitleisi-' nioi of 001. 'I., ear. and this for the wily spot mat .could be really narfal for the lloolotot Per his own part. he declared he would girt .44rstaile this and bind way of his estates with the seeps rity, that he could emceed in restoring it to,the use tif the Hospital; as he considered they Wert Oiler' firing the only spot that could be rendered he r uelleoll to . the sold;ers, for the piirpose of gra,, one, who (melt to be the only 111:10 who shwa not take it. In whatever pouht of view hr Inokkd at it, ke considered it as a job disgusting in its iallture, and detrimental in its condeqnences; whetirer weixiied by any or tine usual ineasunm, Titerinometcr, Basonietvr, Chro nonnerteri or as it might lie celled, a .fobintic•er.— too, to the other features w the busi- Heti, the inatenals which in lead, tiinber, etc. he understood to be of con'aidernble value, wire to be allowed Col. Gordon. tot the purpose of lunit-hug the half of d party-wall, but which wall was ren dered necessary only hey the ,g rant to himelf. As to the estimate upon, which th at grant was f.ittuded, he considered it as of the most flimsy texture, which stumped the transaction as the moot disgust ing job of all jobs. The question was tint Ate. titer Col. Cimino should pay more or less for his bargain, but, whether the soldiers should be nar rowed up in their exiiiiyinents? They were already shut oat of the milks helidiging to the II "pit.il for the accommodation of the wires and of about thirteen Officer*, whit held situations there, —not a leek could they pet out of the garden—and yet all this might hare beet, reformed at the paltry expense of 301. a veer. What he saw inch wigs , . noses ine thaw, he was willing tb wear any mime, so as he coedit be the instrdment in detecting and reforming. such abuses. With respect to the motion itself, although ha entirely approri•il af in vestigation, before an opera Colitikittee of rhe whole House ; yet, as the object might 'he obtained by a referenee to a Select - Committee, "lie dared to 'say Air ilonoorable Friend would consent to the alter thru the additional porters so necessory for the further elucidation of the buAness alight be referred to thistCon !!!! ittee. Mr. Yoitise accused the Honourable Member of niisrepresetitation, it, saying diet it was intended to arrow the conifitrts of the soldiers. _ 0 • ; •.• F* 114reUteetpots 5e.71•4 MIL J;RITISH r. ~ ~. ... t .m.mmurr0warr....a.L..........., • -,.....a. ! ffausper.,•mar.ass • ''. • " 'CON i )01C. 01, SATeit!)".Y. MAT Is • 4 ' ---..... The lf - ..asecif• Osegroand at Cael.ea I:fool:Mal to Colonelpeltioettie, was disoussed last nighl Wiley flon s e of Commons, and eanCtioned by a mijoritY. We sill mike souse observations upon this setriett on Moii,!vy. , _..........._ I ur last page will he found a copy of an in. r letter from the French Minister fah fo. kairs, n:ticli shows that the violation "of the int ty of Austria was oae of the subject; of con * ference at E, forth, agro:d cyrim by ALEIAND/itt andßon.tr.sart. . --..--...; Notice.for the Lotto was yesterday received Is the City, from the Mieister'in Do ening-slreet.-s- . .. The Parties are to attend a Crraferetice no Meo- day, at ore o'clock, when the amount end die Stocks hi which it is to be funded. Pc. will be settled. - ....411.••• • The Treasury Journals continue their attecklitipme Sir F. Pnitoi4T and the late ereetiog at the Crown, and Anchor. The whet:: history of his life. and every no- A :larded exitres.ion that may have escaped from hint in the mono:nos of 4:stivity, we teulared • np, to rote tutu the worst and mod daeigerotts ': ''• man iu society.--. Not ernifent wits this, they hey 'l all the•haseness owl wickedness of that base, cold. blooded, and sordid poli.ical reuegadn,Cooltisv. • at the Matinees floor.—With his language used esseolnet at the Crown and Anchor, of Monday, such of them as have any sense, dO.not nieteed to find any tiiiilt.---They only object to his sincerity. . and insist that he was playing the bypoe•ite.—Now we hope that we act more feirly.—We will not visit upon him the/ sins of CoativrT, and we sill en.. sider the 'Baronet sincere while he adheres to his professions—but toot one moment longer. _......--_ The nature Sif the motto!' of Mr. 111aDoorle, 414 night, iii the House of Commons, was oliforeseeis and unexpected. After a very short prefacer he moved, it That evidence be heard, en Tnesday, at the -Bat, against Mr, PERCI VAL nod Viscount 4 i lvt.attamitt, to prove them guilty of corrupt precticre,leprocuring the return of lleinben to that bfottea."l. This Motion was isegatii cif wt tha «round that-the parties accused were not present; hat tit, charge hi to he resumed on Thursday next. , The ivaakne'sti'"ancl shallowness of :Ministers are in conceivable. "ft requires no ()t.tvint Canen ET t, nor his i‘wanis, to turn them out ; the inenneut M. Msetiortortmicheal theta, they made their We mad 7altr j eil,iitray. . • :, __ . " 15i iatcte: knee i..: , is i.er:eived from VI : , brought by the Racoon. which arriieu ow Tini.s duy at Poitsmunth. The Flushing sir:34Mo has been li r;:tened of its kilns ind sitchlat„, nod *tarried up the river, being uppreheiasivir pra visit from - Lord Cocisazise had it-reourititA bolts former situation. We fame Ire. qtiently heard 'that an attack upou it has been, for some time peat, practicable. . Sinne.irsichi, arrived in the River front tielland. repeat tde rumortr of the , F. such !initial bete de timed 'by Th e Austrians.. • The Palms, ilaaiLEY. from Leaden. arrived at Monte Villew tits the fit* :Janear7 ; found liinit these the Nary. tlei Dintlittando he ' Admiral Berke /4w, the Earl Catedoe, the CAhailla, the Nomad, and the Agrera6le ? the latter hid landed her cargo from Liverpool. stud sailed with Gorcrtnnent dis patches for esidtz.---The supercargo of the Venus was informed ths't the following vessels leers' arrived off Buenos Ayres, vie. the Paany, the (,'rotsfreriared, the Tagus, the fined, and the Generous P/ariters. *Extract of a letter, dated Rio Jime4o, Feb. eS, 1809:—" The Spaniards make great diffeultiet about admitting British goods into the River Plata, which can only be done under special heroes s ; lute or two valuable cargoes have been lately seized and eonfiscated there." Thursday the Admiralty had advices from Gijon, where the utmost activity prevailed to augment the army io that quarter, and to improve its discipline; or which the Niarrplis de la Rost A m a hail particularly (beamed his attention. A letter was also received *mil Santander, by a mercantile lionise. The ger. risotr, which we have before stated to hare been much reduced, had not been root:tweed; mid sonic expectation was indulged that eli. French would abandon, as untenable, under thcir present circum stancie. the entire province of Lloseay. l'he'firing lately heard on the French coast, it is now understood; was on account of the defiler) , of the wife of hiti g 1...,,r is BONA PASTE of a son. The IVellq.Aloo!ir, .froon Lisbon for London. has been carried into Margate, with the loss 0!: foreto , r-matt, foretop s il, y a rds mid rigging, and inalia-(worn. The Betsey, DRATHW4ITE, from nObli II for Mr. WILL, vs! Sutra expressed his conviet:on', that there was mare in the trasisaction, than the public were acipiiiiiited nab. Looking tit 'the report of those employed to make the valuation, he conk' fairly say it appeared to he drawn up, not nil "behalf of the public, but the ;sore ; and tab* in 1111 these circunistances which might be necessary ' consideration. The principal point bow , evettwhich he retie to observe on, was the necessity of ratifying threghtlit to Col. Gordon ; and he must my, that it eppeareil„ that before any steps were taken by Colonel Goolon tinder his grant; a doubt of its propriety had been raised in the Great Crisim • oil of the nation. New, it it were it case of art im provident grant esde•by is minor, of a part of his estate ; was there any man who doubted • hot a Court of Chancery would interfere to aural the grant > In like manlier is the present elee, he Maintained no equitable title could be sustained to the completion of the contract entered into .w.t:i Col. t!:orrion. • Mr. Peactvar. explained. Ile raid that the opPlicatiou'ef the Commisaioners of Chelsea, nn the ettbject, to th• Lords of the Tffliabef:Ther • had felt thetnelvea humid, 114 IS all like' case% tsr consider Colaied Gordo', as intitletl toluive• lease made good to Win. and .had given orders accordingly. , Mr. LONG, after observing that, deny alb& 'per son than Col. Gordon was concerned in the toms- • action, that House would have heard nothitig delepaled the canductiog of the Hospital (rem any ireputatino. So far from the iwn being deprived o f airy csinfrirt, hr asscrtell'the very reverse to bett ies fact. ‘Vith respect to the-transaition itself tinder discussion, he stated that on the very day it was first lorrnt.fit nailer the notice of the House, the Commissioner* had surveyed the pt.:mites, mid ls ing- of opinion that the sctteof the house intended to be built by Colonel Gordon would he a nuisance 's :linty was put to it, and steps immediately taken to redress the evil. Sir U. MOSBLT in teply made a few observations on the argamenta which had been advanced against his motion. It was laud the case had not borne bim out; he mid an tau, and all he wanted was to be . allowed to brew witnesses to their bar, in which. case he pledged himself to prove the whole of his allegations. It was plain that blame rested some where, but where that was could not be amide ont. without the inquiry which he demanded wits granted. Under all the circumstances it ap peared to him to inn the pleasure of the House to chase a Select Committee in pre ference to an open one; howerme, he would yield, and if tiny shotsiii agree to his Graf proposition of referring the matter to is Cominitim, tae would thin prop ',se the MaiTIV•4 of a detect Committee for the purpose of the The Must• then thvilleti upon the question, that the matter tie referred to a Ciniunittee, which was negatives!— Far it 73 Against it l7O Majority — gJ Strangers were net aJmitted again iota the Gal lery.--Adjoerued at ['ALP-PAST ELEVEN O'CLOCK COURT MAR TIAL OMURA, MAT 5. . . . This Court Martial Kas held at the request of Whitehaven, and the t'astle, tenni Ireland the lion. ('apt. Cochrane, (brother of the pliant for ilarriii4tim, ore on shore near NVliiteilav en, and. Lord Cochrane) of the 13th Dragoon Guards, he full of water. having been found fault with by Adjutant-General - We have great pleasure in stating. that the Dirsart Clinton, in the late camp a ign in Spain. Sir Eyre frigate, with .‘iliniral 1)c Coyne, onboard, bound Copse President of the Court. for the Brazils, mill prat".ll to have been lost We being restricted by the Court, cannot now or captured, arrived tt Madeira on the Roth of enter fully inttt the evidence, The charges were March. for disobedience or oplerN 104 4 1 for his havio 4 abut- The Scotch Society for 'propagating Citrietigo dotted hie post on the 341 of January, pot Ai de of the knowledge ia the Ilighlaiirtv, yesterday at ivllagat of Beinhibre, Spain, without taking the the Crown avid Aiicher, the Earl of ilaxtbst.saiss; proper means of ascertaining whether the cavilry in the e;tair. that advanced against his force wits that of the The. itiOLalthrevic 51,-eiety dined on Thersitty enemy's, or the stnigglers of the Alarquis dv In at.Ereetacertsses 4Jaii. The company ausossatisti to ltrionstia's army, Hot..eaap,, M. P. in the Chair. Tbeevisissi • Ailjntant-General Clinton, and Lieut.-Colonel 111 K cue ?Mtn in tile-greatest harmony sort feseltity: Grant, were examined in support of the charges. Ntsvri. Dia Jirreistitsrotio, Gov, Gtooossis. The ( 7.044 ft adjourned at half-pact three o'clogit,. Evioici, ,and Llity r isc. assisted with their wooed sad appointed to glee' at tea to-nmesoo. I. powers. •'ilar oolJostao seas essosidonsbie• • 1 . • • . • ' .. I 4