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neesive fluelustiou it elective low price induces ex. cessive high prices. And this Bill wvat to prevent the excessive low price. It was thus he viewed the Bill, and he thought it infl immatory language to *speak of the bill, as raising the price by forced gad artificial means. As to the plan of storing torn in grannies, it might be wise for Ge neva, or other small States, to do so. But he de -Died, that the case was similar ; or that any thing could be argued from the praCtice of Geneva to Great Britain. But when such a plan was talked of, he could wish to see the detail. He should first demand to see ell the difficulties of that overcome, before he would discuss a question, in its p.-inciple, of so much difficulty. Conceiving the Bill to be what he had described, as as ing upon the old sys tem of our laws to keep the price of corn as level as pcssible, be should support the Bill. Earl S TANHOPE said, he would not by the round-about way move as an amendment that this Bill be read a second time tl.is day three months, but such was his abhorrence of it, that he would move that it be rejqled. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he did not see how this question could be put without moving that the other words he left out. Earl STANHOPE said, there were two ways of malfintr An amendment, which he could shew, from the Journals of the House, he had anticedtntly proved The one was by leaving out word, for the purpose of inserting others; the other by inserting wised, in order that others might he left out. He in 'ved, therefore, that the word 44 liejeded" be in serted After the woid " br " The LORD CHANCI.I.LOR said, he now on derstood the meaniog of the Noble Lord, and read the question as moved. The Bishop of S ASAPH then rose and spoke to the following purport My Lords, I ant one of those Nhvr think we have been induced to legislate further in the case of corn than is consistent wish true poli , :-, or calculated to pronote• the real inte rests of the community. I think that the legislature would in this case, as in ail /duos which concern emitters of trade, al most wisely by leaving corn, like all other articles, to End its own keel. the only difierence lies bttween the two e:asemes of very low prices, and of very high prices. In the latter case, the lower classes of the people suffer ex tremely I in the former, the farmers or. growers of the corn are the sufferers. I admit it is extremely desirable, both these extremes should, if possible, be avoided ; hut I think that neither of them can be fairly deduced to be of a permanent nature. In some years we have colainly seen instances where the price of corn was so very low, that it was scarce ly worth the labour and exoeiree auentliug it, and as itch the farmer had no inducement to cultivate it. In other years we have again seen corn (particu larly wheat) at so very high a price, that the far mers mist have derived very considerable profits from it, and, taking these, one against the other, I conceive that the average will be found to be sueli as not to discourage the farmer from his ae- . customed pursuit of cultivating the growth or corn. My Lords, where there are a great many mouths that have been acenstomed to eat bread, there must be a correspondent demand for corn ; and therefore the Legislature ought to be particu larly ca-eftd, that, in any ads they pass on this sidle% they do not take any step which may tend to drive the earn out of the country. In my opinion, any Lords, they should rather endeavour to devise meals of preserving the superabundance of a plea t:oil year, in order to answer the failure which may take place in the caw of a year of cosaparative scarcity. And here, my Lords, I cannot but !some that the observations of the Noble Earl re apotag de granaries have not, in my opi 'don, bt.en sufficiently answered by the Noble &rotary of :hate. The Noble Secretary of State has said, thaf the example of such a state as that of .e small republic of Geneva could not be adopted to the itArests of a great nation, like the united kingdoms of Great Britain and Ireland; In this respe.l, 1 must, my 1 or!', incline to the opinion of the Neirle Earl, for we have no occasion to confine ourselves to the modern example of Switzerland. If we I,mk to the predict of the ancients, aad resort to the authority of the most eminent writers on the se mile* of the Egyptians, we shall find thatthey triode use of the same prailice of storing and .presetving their corn in granaries. We shall find that great care was taken in this raped, that the corn was deposited in a state of period dryness in the ear and in the g:anaries, the walls of which were very thick, and the roofs proportionately secure . from the 'reds of bad weather; and, thus defended, the corn was kept for fifty, and even a hundred pars, in as perfea a state as when it was first put there for the purpose of preservation. I will, however, allow that this argument, applied to this country, is an entire new system, and so far I agree with the Noble Secretary of State, that it is not 'trialy ap plicable to the present Sill. I am, however. of opinion, that we should be extremely cautious how we at empt to interfere in making Parliameiitary regul.tions, as to the price of corn, .and, from that. adoring' a system of exportation and importatiaSsu,l am afra,d, as I said before, that we have gelapaso .'far on that subjea, and I have, therefore, thought it necessary to trouble your Lordships with these observatirns." The Duke of CLARENCE alluded to certain conversations which had antecedently taken place between His Royal Highness, the noble Secretary of State, and some Noble Lord who was not pre. sent, and deprecating all arguments of an abstratt nature, professed himself in favour of the Bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR then said, the original question was, " that this Bill be am read a isecond time." Siace which an Amendment had been moved, that the word e. rejeaed" be inserted alter the word " be." A division accordingly took place. Contents for the Amendment, I.—Non-Contents against it. 21.—Majority, 20.—Adjourned. MOUSE OF COMMONS. Lord MARSHAM presented a Petition from Cypriot Wißock, who had been committed to New. gate, for prevarication before the Middlesex Elec tion Committee ; expressing contrition for his of fence, and praying to be discharged out of custody. Oa the motion of Lord Mamham, be was ordered -.en be hrought up on Wednesday, is order to be dis charged. The House, in aCrstrirnitter, heard snrrfe witnesses on T' he's Divot CC gill ; when the Speaker obseived that there were certain parties concerned in that Bill, whose presence was necessary ; that the notice re qu,ring their attendance had not been sent off till Saturday; and that, as they had to come all the way from Chester, it would not be possible for th-in to he present that day ; therefore moved, that the Chairman report progress, ordered; and the Com mittae was ordered to sit again to-mot row. The lVoolwich Ordnance Bill ; the Accountant General's Bill; the English Vote of Credit Bill ; the Irish Vote of Credit Bill ; ard the London l)ocks Bill, were read a third time, and passed. A person from the Mint brough: up an account of the quantity of silver bullion brought there, and the quantity of silver coined there, from the 1 ftth of March, 1797, to the tnth of December, 1803. Ordered to li . on the table. Thu Consolidated Fund Bill, and the Bahama Islands Salt Exportation ITIII, were reported, and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. • In consideriii;T the amendments made by the Lnrds in the Felons' Apprehension Bill ; The SPEAK ER observed, there was one in that clause of the Bill which went to regulate the mode of defraying the expcnces of apprehending Mons who should pass from Ireland to Great Britain. The amendni,tilt was to deEty the expellee of apprehend ing those paving from Great Britain to Ireland. And it was one of such a nature, as infringed on the privileges of the House. But it appeared from the preamble of the Bill, that such a provision was to have been made : and if the House thought that what the Lords had done was in furtherance of the Intentions of the Commons, they would then agree to the amendment. The question then was put, and the amendment was agreed to. The SPLAKLIt then observed, that this proceeding was conformable to the rules and us ages of the House; but that in order to guard azainst any appreh2nsion or error, it would be ne cessary to mate a special entry of the case on the journals. _ _ _ _ On bringing up the Report of the Irish Revenue Colleaion Kill ; Mr. HUTCHINSON observed that under the Revenne Laws of Ireland, the Irish Distiller was not allowed to bring his spirits to Great Britain in any vessel of a less barthen than 100 tons. He wish ed this subje& might be considered, and some alter ation made in the law, in order to relieve the Wish distillers from gr‘rat inconvenience. He also wished to know if it would not be proper to make some allowance to the Distillers in Ireland for their expences in removing and altering their stills, which they must now Jo In consequence of this Bill 3 Mr. ORMSBY said, that no alteration could take place with tegard to the tonnage of vc.sel,. without a communication from the Irish to the English Go vernment. No such thing could be done at present. But he could inform his Hon. Friend, that an ar rangement was now under consideration for the pm pose of making such an alteration as he suggest ed ; and that arrangement would be subnutttd to Parliament early in the next Session. The Bill was then ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. _ _ Mr. - from the Commissioners of naval enquiry, present ed their eighth Report, which was ordered to be printed. The Bill for the more Speedy Administration of Justice was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. INDIA BUDGET. On the Order tor receiving the Report of the Committee on the affairs of India ; _ _ . Lord CASTLEREAGH observed, that when he had brought forward this business betore a Com mittee of the whole House on Tuesday last, an Hun. Gentleman, whom he did not then ace in his place, had travelled considerably out of the question, and quoitd estimates for nine or ten years back ; and entered into a long statement of the accounts. I:1 none of those statements Jid he agree; and in order that the House might be enabled more fully to com prehend the subjed, he gave notice that he would, on Thursday next, move for certain accounts, which would bring it into a ditaina paint of view. He then moved, that the further consideration of the Report of the Budget be put off till Thursday.— Ordered. Mr. HUSRISSON brought up certain accounts from the Receiver General of the Land Tax.— Ordered to be printed. - The London Defence Bill was read a third time, and passed. Tf t STAMP DUTIES. On the Report of the Stamp Duty Bill ; Mr. BULLER moved an amendment, to prevent penalties from attaching to Land Stewards, for draw ing up Leases of any lands of which they were Stewards. Mr. HUSKISSO objetted to the Amendment, which was neetircd. The bill was then ordered to be read a third time to-mottoes. DEFENCE OF THE COUNTRY. On the third reading of the Defence Mt Amend- ment Bill Colonel CRAUFORD said, he had one or two remarks to make on this Bill, by way of asking a question ab the Right. Sion. Gentleman opposite him. IfErAderstu , d that by this Bill, the Govern ment was 'to be empowered to purchase lands, for the purpose of ereaing fortifications on them. If this -was the fad, he was surprised the measure should be brought forward at this late period of the Session. And he wished to know in what man ner these powers would be exercised before the next Session of Parliament, and whether it was intended to ere& any fortifications in the intermediate time ? Mr. PIIT said, the objed of this Bill was merely to amend something defedive in a former Ad of Parliament; that it was brought in upon general grounds, and had no reference to any specific objed. He could not then give the lion. Gentleman any answer to bis question, relative to the probable pur chase of lands, and eredion of fortifications by Government. before next Session of Parliament. Colonel CRAUFORD said, the Bill gave such powers to Government, and they might be exercised. All he wanted to know was, whether Government had formed any plan for the ere&ion of fortifications ; because, if they had, he should, before the do e of the Session, move that the estimate, and probable ex pences should be laid before Parlians.mt. He tho aght no fortifications should be ereded, without the car.- Til4° Bid Piz I. P.viIESS. , ILLY 17. Official a-co•nas :en received from the Cape of Good lion:,. or as the 10th of April last ; at which tints i:ch line of battle ships were there, with •••• • deck guns. They were but badry m brought a quantity of spice from 8... . was 'sanded at the Cape; but little Jan:. e:ore to be apprehend ed from this syuadr•_ tr hvr•:rward-bound Ship. By the Datti,h Ea, • h .:rived off Dover, we learn, that un t•t• iintury she fell in with Admiral 1..140 a t. 3 run off Pulu Auro, consisting of one bh1:1 at 7 r two frigates, and two corvettes; and, front enquiries made by the Captain, there was every reason to suppoie that other French ships were in d e Streights of Gaspar, and to the Eastward. By an American ship, arrived at Sr. Helena from Batavia, it was reported, that two Dutch men of war and one frigate were to join the French ; and another American arrived at St. Helena, which sailed from Canton the 23.1 January, who informed the Government, that the Woodford had errasvd in the River as he was coming out. The Captain of the Danish ship also reports, that eight or ten English ships were to sail from China, the latter end of January, though, he was inclined to think, they would wait the arrival of a convoy. As the time of the departure of the homea•ard bound China ships has occasioned so much anxiety, it may be interesting to our readers to know the time at which these ships arrived there; we there fore subjoin the following list; and shout;; they form two fleets, the formes eight will probably compose the first, viz. OC(4l7 l lfelry Addisigtea. Ezeter, and Earl of Aber .:cranny, arrived at China, Sd and 4th of Septem ber ; Cum6erland, August; Warm 11.:1i...x5, 2lth August; Earl Ceredea and L'ons4a7 Grille, end of September; Royal Geo•gr. IYr.rfir 1, Derst:P.in, NW:1111 Hate, Ganges, and Alfred, end of September ; beginning of November, and Week', 11th of No. vember. hiving received considerable damage in ; tyffoon, but had been repaired, and were fat's vaned in their loading on the 9th of JantarY Woodford, `23d January, 1801. • We have inserted an important article from the Moniteur of the 7th instant, in which Rus:a4 is diredly chlkrged with mAlitating the de. strudien of the Turkish Empire. The seadin 7 of Russian troops to Corfu, and the war in penis, are the two proofs adduced in support of this sation. Now as to the former, no charge can he more false and malignant. France seized upon Corfu and the Seven Islands ; they were recovered by the united forces of England and Russia, and a Russian force is still necesssry for their p• o . tation against French fraud and violence. As to the war in Persia, it was begin in 1800 by the Emperor PAUL, at the instigation of Boa t . P A %TN, with the hope of injuring our Ea:t India trade. This part of.the charge is therefore equally false as the other. This article explains the mission of Jouvtar to Constantinople, and the letter from BON Al. A err, which he was charged to deliver into the hands or the SULTAN. The object was, no doubt, to excite jealousy and mistrust in his breast against Russia ; but this libel in the lifoliteur she*s that the attempt has not succeeded. It proves, besides, that if the complaints respelling the violation of the German Empire are settled to Bois Aea axes wire. faftion, it is not with the consent of the F.mperer cf Rt who,as a spirited and powerful prince, will probably soon withdraw his guaranty, which the German Princes have proved themselves unworthy to enjoy. The Miotitetar also announces, that the diplomatic agents, xho had received their new cre. dentials, were to present them on Sunday sennig'at; but as they are not specified, we may presume that no minister of any power of the first rank is in the number. When we copied on — Saturday the pretended Protest of Louis XVIII. from the Megitest, , as stated at the game time, that we considered it a fabAcation, because we had reason to believe that the Km() o► Fa Amen would not-take that step until the relat've situation of France and Russia were finally decided. Upon enquiry we find our opinion was correct. The French Princes and their (rivals all regard this paper as a forgery from TAL LIT. &AND'S °dice, to lessen the effect of the real pro test when it shall appear. It contains, be sides, internal evidence of a fabrication. All the proclamations hitherto addressed by Louis XV lIL to his suhjeas, breathe a generous spirit, and mouses with paternal sentiments, the very opposite to those absurd mentces of a new revolution, which he is made to use in this Protest. In stria right and jmtice it is, no doubt, perfealy true that every a& of Go. vernment in France since the 29d June, 1789, the day on which Louis the XVlth was deposed by the rebels of the States General, is voidable, as not sanc tioned by the rightfill Sovereign ; but upon every occasion, when his most CHRISTIAN MAJISTY addressed his enslaved subjects, he has uniformly declared, thal all changes judged necessary for the happiness and honour of France. should be coa tinued after his restoration, and that a general amnesty should remove the apprehensions of even the most guilty." Yesterday morning, Count Wososzove, the Russian Ambassador, received dispatches from his Court. _ _ ----- Yesterday, dispatches were received at the Ad miralty from Lord NELSON. ?ATI St. VINCENT, and a number of other Admirals, received letters from his Lordship. No candidate fsr Middlesex has yet declared himself in opposition to Sir FRANCIS BURDETT. it is suspected, however, that there is one under the Rose, who will be produced in due season. Mr. Mauswa a INC, Jun. will declare off or on this dal. Yesterday the Loom Marna, &trams, and City Officers, held a Court of Conservancy at the Ship l'avern, at Greawich, to receive the Returns of Jury who have been examining all cm-road:met! made upon die 'name: w thin the jurisdiction c: the Loko \l A Y on, on the Kentish side of the rte'•• After reeeisHng these presentments, they part -• a tumrtutios diluter. It npp.i.irs from a general view of the nnanc,s: • the current year, that the total burn to be rithet; 6 Great Britain, in the year I sO4, is 77046,170. anti the receipt: to answer it 76,073,9301. leaving .t et ticieney of 1,772,2491. Accounts from Dover state, that a very lie . tity firing was heard there on Sund ty morning, continued until noon. Three of our gun-brigs b' becalmftl under the enemy's batteries at Bott,o 6 ta. the li . rencli were throwing shells at them. The three persons who gallantly hazarded thcit lives to save the magazine anJ the town of Mini, ill the island of Jersey, from destroclion, have receive rewards from the Patriotic Funds—The first, Lic ut • Lvs, 5001. the second, ToLzet., 3.;01. and tltr third, a Soldier, an annuity of 201. per antinm• A y,reat number of tents, and other a.ticles • camp equipage, were on Saturday sent off boo London to A w:.ich ;.; 1:01 v it in the e nviio of Cro! don. A grt.at quantity of stores, and A. ammuniti . n viaggon: of a new coLstrinAion, also sent to di_ same place, in order to be send a nurnbt r of titaips to ant . point a: notice in case of iava-itat. current* of Parlianieni becanse such_ works had sometimn been made injudiciously; on slight , grounds, and without consulting the opinions of high military-charafters. Sir WILLIAM PULTENEY said, he now un derstood this Bill was brought in upan general grounds, aid had no particular a;;plication. The country, he said, had materially su.TereJ, from an impression that all danger of invasion was at an end. If Kniteis had no better authority than what was known to the House, foe holding out such an idea, it was their duty to have flame every thing in their power to keep up the energy of the country. This energy, he was sorry to say, was considerably re laxed; the enemy was making great preparations, and this country was not a-.vake to the magnitude of the danger that threatened her. He was glad his lion. Friend had asked the question, which lie put to the Minister, and was sorry to hear such an answer ' iven , to it. Dr. LAURENCE said, he was surprised the Minister had not given a more precise answer. Mr. PIT C observed, it was very singular that he should have been so much misunderstood by the lion. Baronet, who seemed to suppose that he (Mr. Pitt) had said, some time or other, that all danger of invasion was at an end. He never had said any such thing, but the very contrary ; and the Ilous must recollen, that the most vigorous means had been adopted, to moct the danger; and he would still say, that the most vi g orous exertiens ought to be pursued ; that such se ts likely to be done, His Majesty's Me.sage, receutly debate, el to that Hulse, was an additional proof. T:i present measure was merely on g.-neral grounds. make up for the de feel of an Aa of Parliame.e. .I.ld therefore he did not consider himself c t•i enter into a dis cussion upon fortificari ,, r s ; he had not changed his opini;)a nn that susi• 5.t. But he would assure the House, th:.t svh ~ - v r ifi.ations v, ere to be erefted, it should h. d ~ c with the concur rence of proper military aut'' ty. Sir Wit.trasi Per.resev explained; and the Bill was read a third time, . . passed. IRIS!I DlsTil On the Order of the I r the Committee on the Irish Spirits Warehousing , B. 11; Mr. HUTCHINSON sai-I, since this subject was discussed before, he had communications from Distillers in Irel in f, swing, that they were Gable to be aggrieved by the measure. Many had, since the Union, speculnied on those advantages which were now about to be taken away ; and one house had vested the sum cl 3,0001. in such a specu lation; prthalis it might hereafter be fit to consider how Far these pasties were entitled to a compensation. Mr. PI rr sari, :f persons had thought wooer to speculate io sums of money, as 'he strength of what they might gain in consequence of the Aaof Union; that se-is no g mind why any unrcas.inaltle advantages, which they might have enjoyed, should be continued any longer. The House then /*saved itself' into a Committee on the Biil. _ _ . Mr. liU rCIINSON teklt- I to put nfr, fnr xis weeks I , nger, the pviu..l At which the Bill was to take effea. This was opisenNl MIMS BY. whO nhse , ved, :hat the advan . .,ge to ri•r• of waruhnusing his spirits, VA, 011 e w i Igir not to be delayed a day lonler than could be v.sded. Kiamai Mr %V. SMITH stippOrted the Bill, which p.v.sei tO.O gJt ,:•e Committee, and the Report was ordered t • :J." ter, t.).MOTTOW." The oth• r nr.let c ne;,,3 ais-I,Argzi till to-morrow, the House a:I:ill:TA, N. 1.11. of Fograpit.e.d An. .0.. E. po,t7x n 1.