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i 1 1 sk :~ tasting once more against the manner of proceed ing tefich his Mejesty's Ministers had adopted. The Earl of HARROWBY said, he rose with as steep a feeling of the importanCe of the case as the Nutria Earl (Grey) did, an d with • determination . . • .. I?..pieweot his mind from befog tirsieciiss , tise right or to the left, but to look at it when it come be fore the House ih soother shape. as if the Com- nonce of their Lordships had never made a Report. If there were gross ittjustice in the proceeding, he could only say that their Lordships were aceom• plices Hear, hear.)-11 there was ever a proper proceeding in such a case, the one adopted , by their Lordships was that one. Was it because grounds of accusation had been found against the Illustrious l'ersotuige in the Committee, was that a reason that their Lordships should be inca pacitated- from sittirng judicially, and examining into the merits of the Report ? Much had been said by the Noble Earl relative to his Majesty's advisers being in possession of the evidence. and not insti. luting some measure. He would ask, would their Lordships have allowed any iadividnal, however high his office, to open his mouth to make a charge against the Queen Consort, without it was such a direct charge that would be considered the highest crime against the state ? They ought not then to be accused of not having volontarily instituted some proceeding, particularly when the Noble Earl told them, that, after the opinion pronounced by the Committee, if any measure was proceeded in, it would endanger the safety of the country. — Then, according to his argument, there was uo in stance, let the crime be ever so great, that the quer tion ought to be agitated. Earl GREY said the Noble Earl had mistaken him. for what he did say was, that if the charges were of the description as reported by the Commit tee, his Majesty's Ministers ought not to have paused one moment in grounding some specific measure on them; but knowing what the charger were, they ought not to have offered 50,0001. per annum to her Majelly to have kept out of the country. The Earl of HA RROWBT, in continuation, said, that if her Majesty had beendillowed to remain on the Continent in quiet, without her coming to this country to disturb its peace, the sum offered to her could not be considered by the country as a ascii five for so desirable an object. The paper which had been laid on their Lordships' table was no snore than the verdict of a Grand Jury, if it was • case of a private individual. Circumstances had occurred in their own time where a similar Report had been made, and the party affected by it had been afterwards acquitted. He for one would say, God forbid that the Report of the Committee should be considered as confirming the guilt of the Illus trious Personage accused. The Earl of CA RN A RVON said, that the Report laid on their Lordships' table bore no resemblance to proceedings before a Grand Jury, for they had the whole body of evidence before them, when the ,Committee had only the charge and not the proof— (Hear) —and on such a Report were they to be driven into the most awful and painful inquiry that ever came before Parliament, and against which the whole country had set their face, and their Lordships' were also culled on to shorten the Session for the purpose, and leave the important public business undone ? Was there no blame to attach to her Majesty's accusers, for having left tier name out of the Liturgy, which put an end to ell accommodation ? He would ask, was it wise that the ceremony of the coronation should be car ried on, while this inquiry was pending ? Wes it not holding out to the world that her Majesty would not have the benefit of a fair trial, by treating her as guilty before she was tried ? Was this proper to be held out by the advisers of the Crown to the public--when he said pub. lic, lie did not mean the factious, or those that were denominated an, but he meant the thinking end wellmeaniug part, who were the strength of the country ? There was not one of their Lordships could say that the Sovereign did not owe the great est gratitude to the constitution and the people. He would ask, then, what would be their indignity to the Sovereign in advising the postponement of the coronation fur the present, or until the painful inquiry was over ? Wes it not advisable that 011 the day when the Sovereign arid the people took reciprocal oaths that there should be no disunion of feelings? It was a question full of danger to the welfare and harmony of the country, and would call down upon the advisers of the Crown the exe cration of the people. The Earl of DARN LEY rose, but spoke in such a low tone of voice that he was inaudible below the bar; hut we understood the Noble Earl to say that be wished her Majesty bad not come to thir coun try kat the same How lie could not approve of the conduct of hex Majesty's Ministers in leaving tier muse out of the Liturgy. The people had been in the habit cf praying fur her before as the Princess of Wales, and why the death of his late Majesty should relieve them trout that duty he could out surmise. That and other acts of the ad visers of the Crown had provoked her to take the vie') she did of coning to England ; and in his conscience he could out excuse his Majesty's Mt iir,ters for their injudicious conduct. Earl G ItitY raid lie rose merely to ask for infor mation bow it was that if the charge against the Queen fur having lived as an adultress with a per eon of the lowest description, and that her conduct was must licentious fur a length of time, was true, his Majesty's Ministers esitered into any tiegocia il its for a compromise, knowing a crime of such a it lure to exist, which had been poltened down in 'ism House as a mere family divute If it were only such, their Lordships had nothing to du with hut when it livatllliert the ehianCter given to it by the Report, how could the advisers of the Crown offer, fur the purpose of enabling tier Ma jesty to live in this adulterous and licentious course, 50,000/. per annum to be takers but of the pockets of the people— f Hear, hear)—fur they were not strangers to the evidence which the Report was grounded on ? The Ent of LIVIMPOOL said, he did dot rise fur ile purpose of prolonging the debate, but merely to say a few words to set the Noble Earl (Grey) right; for. taking every word of the Report of the Committee to be true, he was DWI of opi nion. if her Majesty bad staid abroad she ought to bare an allowance on account of public ettpedieuee. to have sowed the cue coasiog before .. l'othasseat is Mach hod been said in respect of Ilia negotiations which , had taken place when crime had . . known to hoe been committed ; war any than d enough b e i o trite) , that it ought nut to be retort TDI when the the peace of the country was endangered, or where !VW .the morals of the people wen Asadangod ? Would it be said that a statesman would have doge his duty, if he did not try to avoid such copse gumtree lay.segociatiou ? He woe not afraid to sey, , that the evidence was known to his Majesty's Mi nisters for some length of time, and he was not afraid to ackuowledge that they recommended the negociation. But when forced by her Majesty'. as. rival in this country to one out of two alternatives, either to pay her all respect due to a Queen, ur to take the present course, his Majesty's Government could not hesitate as to which course they ought to take. The Marquis of BllcltlNGlFlAMobeerved, that he perfectly agreed with the Noble Earl (Liverpool), that the negotiations which had been entered into were perfectly proper; and also that the adjourn ments of their Lordships from day•to day were highly proper, while there was a hope that the ne gociations would end in so adjustment. It was taken up by their Lordships on that occasion with a feeling which did them honour; for if such a conclusion lied been brought about it would have saved the painful necessity of hearing the Report which had been read at their table, it would have eased the feelings of the people and also of 4he Royal Family. He was of opinion that his • Majesty's . Ministers had taken the most constitu tional coarse. He had only one other observation to make, which he believed he might make without impropriety, that the Report of. the Secret Com mittee was agreed to with the greatest unanimity. Lord HOLLAND said, that the odium in appoint ing the Secret Committee was on the majority of the House and not on she whole of their Lordships; but when the Noble Marquis told them that the House agreed to the adjournments for the sitting of the Committee, he would inform him that they were not informed of the stature of the charge. The Noble Earl (Liverpool) had stated in loud and lofty language that inquiry was necessary, but he had not informed them that inquiry was.not necessary if leer Majesty remained shooed, and for her remain ing there she was offered MOOO% per annum of the people's money. The Noble Earl (Harrowby) stated, that his Majesty's Ministers had been driver to this proceeding, and if this were his opinion he (Lord Holland) would say, let him enjoy it ; it might be correct, but he and his Noble Friends had nothing to form their opinion on except the Re port they had heard read. He was, however, of opinion that the proceeding from the beginning was wrong. He agreed with his Noble Friend (Earl Grey) that the pageantry which had been mentioned by him ought to be suspended ; it was far from his wish to say, that it ought out to take place at some future period, but while this inquiry was going on it certainly was not the proper time. There being no question before their Lordships, except that of adjournment, lie would not enter further into the subject than to say, that when he agreed to the adjournments for the sitting of the Secret Committee, it *as because he was told that there were negociationa going on which would end in an adjustment, and in consenting to them he gave no opinion on the accusations against her Majesty. He hail, however, always been of opinion, when there was ground fur such a serious charge as that alluded to in the Report, that the first proceedings springing nut of it ought to ori ginate in the other House of Parliament. Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, TUUDAY, JULY 4. The House met at the usual hone, but there were two bal lots fur Election Committees, on account of which the gal lery was nut opened till half-past five o'clock. When it was o pened we found the Committee fur one of the Petitions (that from Grantham) assembled round the table. The names hav ing been called over before we entered the gallery we had nu ir pport oust y of recording t►em. The names of the defaulters on former ballots ware as low — Earl Bective Hon. E. Law :des Lord Castlereagh I F. J. Needham Lord G. Cavendish sir E. 1113. leis Sir J. Copley John Plume'. Mr. A. Ellis G. Prendergast - Fine Hon. R Smith J. P. Grant C. Wetherell They were ordered to be taken into custody by the See jemit at Arms. Lord G. Cavendish and she Han A. Ellie were immediately after taken into custody by the tierjeinet at Andras, and ow the motion of Mr. B. BATHURST, Ordered to be discharged ou payment of their fees. The ballot fur the Committee on the Petition from Chester was brought in, and the names called over as follows: G. G. Morgan I Hon. H. Legge John Maxwell W. Evans Sir T. E. Wiouiuglon W. Maass J. 1. Lockhart I Hun. E. Curt Sir .1. Maijuribanks Hun. W. Lamb B Gasket' I A. Boswell Colima Davies T. F. Lewis Hon. F. A. Prittie Mr. WILSON brought up a Petition from the London Rec tifying Distillers agaluid the importation into English ports of Scotch raw sp . . Mr. MAXWELL brought ■p various Petitions from the Slop-owners of Scetlaud, praying that there should he uo alteration in the duties on foreign timber. ' Sir J. Owns brought in a Bill to regulate the imposing fres anal regulating fees and recoveries it, the Court of Sea -1114110 in Wale., and to put them on the same fuotiug as the Courts of Westminster Hall.—ltead a first lime, to be read the second time to-morrow. Ou the motion of Sir J. M•cain7o•ll, the Ps irately ing in Dwidling•hutisrs Bill, and Ilse Capital Felonies Re peal Hill, were read she third tune and passed. 'f he Capital Felonies Commutation of Punishments Bill was also, after a few remarks from Mr. MARTIN, lu which Sir J. MACKINTOSH as briefly replied, read the third nine and passed. On the motion of Mr. B. BATHURST, Lord Castlereagh, Mr. Prendergast, and Mr. J P. Grant, were ordered to be discharged out of the custody of the Serjeaut at items, on payment of their fees. The Report ofibe Shrewsbury Road Bill was brought up, and, together with the ■meudm.nis, ordered to be engrossed. Sir J. Copley was ordered to be discharged out of custody on payment of his fees. Mr. Mitchinson, from the Bank of England, brought up accounts of Bank motes and Bank pull bills now in circuses. lion.—Ordered lu be printed. Mr. Brown, hum Neonate. brought up scampi, which bad bees ordered by the House, of the •stew !tad usher de aeriptioss of the butkrupta committed to Neonate Mace 1809. Sir W. Cymru obtained kave to bring is • Bull for re gulation the Militia of the City of Loudon. Mr. Asses obtained leave to !mien is • Bill to alter sod Mead the Acts relative to County Raw. CORRESPONDENCH RELATIVE TO THE COVET OF'EXCMEWER; SCOTLAND. Lord A. HAMILTON precan:rd..bia motion by ad. vetting to the Board. or Cuminiseioners /glitch had beets appointed by Parliament to inquire into the • r,.....•. tz g and IsMtiosoi There Cocninissioncrii, - *Sear • lie .coinpliniuted, 144414de its piss Corers' of which they IF reduction of places and offices of different kiodsin the Courts or Scotland, which would effect a saving, if carried into practice, of 1,5001. per m.— Not one of these pieces had been abolished in the way in winch it had been recommended. When he had before brought forward his motion respect. ing the appointment of a fifth Baron in the §cotch Exchequer, the Noble Lord opposite (Castkoragh) had given the House to understand that the Board bad expired of itself ini the demise of the Crown. This expiration was reported w o have takin place in February or March last. It would appear. however, from the correspondence of the Com missioners with the Home Department, that they had suggested the propriety of continuing the Commission; yet the Commirsion had been al lowed to expire, even before it had executed the 1 duties intrusted to it by the House. He was sow prepared to prove that at the time of his motion to which he had alluded, The Commission had nut ex pired, nor was it in a state of expiration at all. Let the correspondence •for which he wes about to move be produced, and it would appear that Ito far from it having expired, the Commissioners had been in correspondence with the Home Depart ment subsequently to that period, and the Secre tary had addressed the Commissioners as an exist lug Board. From the time of the first Report till that present, 110 one step hail been taken to enforce the recommendations of the Commissioners. But the most important part of these proceedings was the revival of the Commission. Although it had been stated that it had expired of itself on the Be mire of the Crown, and would nut be renewed, yet the new warrant had been addressed to the Booed of Commissioners sitting at Edinburgh, without any notice having been forwarded to the Commis- Gloaters individually of their iutended reepponitineut, or any measures taken to know if they were inclin ed to act longer under the Commission, and con tinue to execute those duties which they hod hither to su ably and diligently discharged themselves of. He complained that throughout his Majesty's Mi 'ssisters, and especially the Secretary for the Home Department, had nut treated the Commission, or any of its concerns, with that feeling and favour which the House bad a right to expect from them, with regard to any plan fur effecting economy to which the House had agreed. The Commission had been abruptly dismissed, the furniture was disposed of, and the apartments in which the Board sat were given up. All those things would have to be replaced, and all this expense and trouble was owing to the Secretary of the Home Department not having informed the • Commissioners in time that they were to con tinue their functions. He moved for copies of all correspondence which had taken place betweeu his Majesty's Secretary of Slate for the Home De partment mid the Board of Commissioners appoint ed to inquire into the fres, offices, and emoluments of the Scotch Courts, in reference to the revival of the said Commission. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that lie most of COMM COGICOd against the interpretation put by the No. ble Lord on the conduct of Government, with re gard to their treatineot or the Commission ; they were by uo means disposed to neglect the recom mendations of the Commissioners. It had struck them that the demise of the Crown would naturally have tire effect of dissolving the Commission. This, however, which was a law question, had been sub mitted to the law officers of the Crown, who gave their opinion that the Commission did not cease in consequence of that demise. Milliliters being de termined by this opinion, found that all the acts of the Commission executed alter the demise of the Crown were valid. Sir far were they (rola wishing to interrupt the proceedings of the Cu 11111 l triton, that. had the law officers given a contrary of/it:ion, it was his intention to have brought in a Bill for the purpose of legalizing such proceedings of the Commission as might have been mtwarily adopted after the expiration of the Commission. They found an easier course, however, mid that it was only to revive the Commission. and all those acts would he retained. Ile did not thick then that the Noble Lord could have *Hy use for the correspon deuce. Government had waited to put into force the recotrimendst of the Board, until the Cum intssioners hod completed their arrangements. This was the mode by which suet, measures were gene rally carried into effect. When the. Gore 11111 l ent should have•ucted out the Reports of the Commie pion, time Noble Lord would be better able to judge if time sense of Parliament were complied with. But at present lie could not make out a charge against them fur nut having acten, or out emending to act, because Mmisters acknowledged that they had out as yet acted On there Reports. Mr. J. I'. GRAhT wished to ask the Noble Lord what was to be dune with the Bill regarding the Courts of Session iii Scotland ? The ;thermions of customs of may kind in Courts of Justice must al ways be important. In the preretit instance there were various Opinions.. Lie thought it would be desirable .0 have the Bill primes'. and circulated with the blanks filled up, but not to press it in the present Stss iiiii i in order to give full tune fur Clllll9llleratinsl 111 all patiteb. Lord CASTLEREAGH nitionated Lis willingness to put it Of} WI next tirssom. • Lord A. HAMILTON protested alpinist Ilya assumption that Ministeir had 001 hero able to act because of the inipetfectioo of the Reports of the Commission. The tact war, that the Reports wale sufficiently complete two yeasts ago to enable Mi nisters to have acted oil thrill* 1 ' Ith the emareilt of the House, the Noble Lord withdrew has iiii two. Mr. Solidi, being in the custody of the Setjeant at Arms, was ordered to be discharged on payment of his Tres. Mr. J. T. Fan,. in consequence of the additions of his name not having beret expressed in the list of defaulter•, was ordered to be discharged without payment of fees. A Message from the Lord► amsounced their Lord. aiweut to the Irish Trade Assistance Bill. the Cork Harbour Bill, the Dublin Lies Light Bill, and several others. '•fae__ MOMPne- qlllllll a COLLECTION OF THE REVENUE. Ur. Hcsic, in rising to submit his propositions do the House on this subject, did it from so feeling of hostility to the Gower 1111 l ref, whom lie was in this instance not at all disposed to condemn. His first propeitillisii Oka Merely intend fel to cause Parlor. Pivot to acknowledge the necessity of inductile the fniot rigid economy into the collection of the vs liiiitlfbratteicis 'UT The revenue. : Such a declaration had been already 'Omitted in substance if not in words, by the Chancelkir of the Exchequer, when 'snowing for three millions of new taxes in 1819. indeed. it was highly satisfactory to observe, that the utteution of Government had been usefully directed to improvements in various brooches of the revenue. He hoped, therefore, that the House would not refuse the expression of • wish for eco nomy. They were ti" recollect, that it was only by • small savings that economy could be, at any time, commenced. His second propositiou set forth va rious rates at which the revenue had been col. lected in the years 1796, 1810, and 1820, together with the gross and net amounts, all of which particulars he had token from State documents. In 1796 the charge of collection on the gross re ceipt of the revenue was 51. Os. 9d. per cent.; in 1810, 4/. 124. 661. ; and MO, 61. la. 3id. From the year 1796 there was an increase in the expense of collection of twenty per cent. or oar-fifth. In 1796 the - whole charge of ma nagement was 1,174,5251.; in 1820, 3,341.823/. During the time of the war, when millions were given away like thousands before, Mr. Pitt said it was necessary to raise the salaries of the officers of Government, because the price of all the necessa ries of life was raised, and in consequence it was done; bat now, when we were returning to a me tallic currency, and to a reasonable amount of cir culating medium, it was a proper subject of consi deration whether the promises made by Mr. Pitt to the public should not be realized, and such reduc tions mode in those salaries as to make them cor respond to the diminution of income of most other cleaner in the Sum. Private persons could now carry MI their ertabbohuients, it was well known, at one-half the expense they incurred some years back ; there fore the House and the country had • right to ex pect that his Majesty's Government would make the public expenses conform to the general prin ciple of change. The extent to which they had yet carried it p as very little indeed. Judging from papers laid on the table • few days ago, the House might suppose that great savings had been recently wSrectrd in this way for the public ; but that was _riot the fact. It appeared, that on the sth of Ja nuary, 1890, there bad been so increase of incli vidusts employed in. the collection of the revenue of seventy-two, which was n small earnest to the country of the disposition of the Ministers to effect those reductions they had pledged themselves to. There wsa an increase of salaries also of 4,9041. ; there was a diminution in the amount of emo luments of about 14,0001. ; awl of 60,0001. in that of other expenses. Certainly in the deport ment of the collection of the Customs • reduction hod Web Made last yearof mow/. ; but die benefit of this was lessened by additions under other heads. He thought, therefore, that the House was bound at an early period of the next Session to take this subject into its consideration, not in the man ner of these Commissioners, nor of persons holding office, as they did, but of the watchful guardians of the public purse. Surely some explanation should be given why in 1796 the rate of collection of the revenue should be only five per cent. and in 1820, 6/. Is. std. There was a slight deduction from the charge for last year; it was only two shil hugs per cent. But the great point for the investi gation of the House was, how the country was obliged to pay at prevent 3,341,8231. annually for collecting the revenue for Great Britain only. These computations were taken from the Report of the Finance Committee. There wee one point to which he particularly wished to draw the 'dictating of the House. In the year 1819 the support of the quaran tine establishment, and other expense. cousiected therewith, were 82,000/. In the year 1620 it was recommended that all the charges incident to the support of the quarantine laws should be excluded from the gross charges of this year and all succeed ing ones, and this recommendation lied been acted oil; yet the exclusion of this sum had been almost compensated fur in other branches. A single fact, that in the course of one reign the bare ex penses of the collection of the revenue at one period exceeded by one million the whole charge on sc. count of the debt at another, of itself sufficiently demonstrated the necessity of strict inquiry and effectual cliange.—(Hear.)—ln Ireland the gross revenue amounted to 5,291,b291. ; the charge of col lection appeared to be 884,9121., being at the rate of 161. hB5. I Id. per cent. on the autuunt, or above double the charge on this account in England. But on the nett income it was tweiny-one percent., that was, more than one-fourth of the whole ; in other words, every four pounds was collected at an expense of more than one. In 1808 the charge in the Customs there was eight per cent. Shortly after • great addition to emoluments took place, so that in the following year the charge was advanced to 1 I per cent. It was not for him to say what had been the restos of this, hut be understood that the cause was the same as that which produced similar effects in Scotland, usraely, that there was a vast deal of jobbing there. He was awry nut to see the Hun. Baronet, the Member fur Waterford (Sir J. Newport) iii his plate, be- C4tllle he could explain these things much more ably than lie could pretend to du. He new came to his next Resole. Lion respecting Scotland. He bad selected the tom prat heads of revenge there, thiukiog it better to marks to the increase in these. He had drawn out a maw tricot at the suggestion of the Honourable Gent the Secretary of the Treasury (Mr. Lushiligtun). It be fonud by it, that the increase in the charge of alt lectiuu of the Customs, was greater Moo in my *OW department. Is 1810 the charge fur the gross cullonaiMainan 81.45. Sd. per teat.; in 1820, it MM. ltd. He shaadd now endeavour to state the reason of the increase hi Ilse Customs, distinct from the other branches of the The House was out perhaps aware, that the Customs in all their breeches were within the control and patroo age of his Majesty's Goverumesit, while that of the Esciee partly apperisiued to the Government and partly to the Commissioners; and on inquiry be believed it woald appear that in those divisions of the department under the patron age of Government as increase had recently taken place, and iu those under the Commissioners a decrease. The application of this principle to the Customs might serve to amount for•ilie aagsaristatioa observable therein. is the Excise he believed it was • Fri/triple that all individuals appointed to the aaperior sitiodium should rim from the lowest. Promotive was cot/ducted meordirig to the merits of individual*, more than in my other broach of the public service; the consegiseeee was, that • spirit of industry, summon to hasiuess, mad emulation, was excited , `. In those whose success depended on their conduci ; and the public was ill.s materiel', beriedted. lo the Customs, o• the contrary, pertains were chorea to fin oiSres, not on the ground of merit soul competency, het in too many instances that of interest only. The Hon. Geatlemau then adduced, as ea instance of this,' rectal appoiNinteot of a very yowler MIS, witbont any experience in the loreirese, the son 4.f the Chare• berlaso of Edinburgh, to the taffies of tandem surveys' .1 Aberdeen, over the head* of several etoperior officers, agree of whom had lace retominsoled for promotion. He was perfectly coorieced that it the petroNage in the Cu. toms was vested a a body &wise, from the Trea•nry, that there worth! be both • considerable revinz in the col lectiou of those duties, and ■ greet Nieces's , . of or h eal the superior ability of the officers. la 1810, whet, the Act poised pernailing seperaerseatioe allowariees, et w ou ld appear that the mussel ef them in lite Ceislonls *44 24,0001. No ember them the Act 51 George 11.1 s giviug a discreleseary power to grist 16 , 00 p ties% than they became enormously asigni-iii••l In 1817 they were advanced t 061,3351; In ISIS. Ist 71.00; 1 ; and in 1819, to upwards of 60,0001. Every person ob.. retired was a source of patronage to the Government. He wished to guard the House 'gaited the idea that much had been 'lone le the way of retrenchment by his Majesty's Mi nisters; the whole diminution this year-was S9')001. Their was n reduction its the departnieut of the (:atoms of 101,0001. so that there must have been ass itteresse in ether branches of near 40,0001. His object was to ',hew, that the diminution is the charge of conecting the revenue war not proportionate to the inrresse iu the total amount of it. In Ireland sod Scotland it perticolarly called for the atteutlou of his Majesty's Government. Large redactions, be was coollitleut, could be effected by note inquiry ; but if Me Majesty's Government seat down soy ore for that perpose to Scotland, lie reconi. mended that it should Not be a person conuccted wills that part of the empire —(at hark)—Mr. Hume then ad. vetted to the charges of managetecut of the lax on salsrie, and argued that 7321. (and oothiNg, however small, was 111 the present circumstances of the country to be Neglected) might be Ily saved by a reduction of the salaries equal to the amount of the tag. He them made some observations on the charge of maeaglog the tax on hackney coach... which he considered too great. Those taxes alone ought be continued which look the smallest sum from the pockets of the people, and paid the most into the Exelseqntr. TibP POICOGieII was the departesest which made the best returns, precisely because the patrumage of it did not rest with the Treasury. He now came to cousider the Resolutions is. speciing the Receivers' General sod Distributors of Stamps, which involved a two-fold subject—the expenditure of the public and the patronage of Miuisters. %When it was kiiowil that their object was to abolish 160 sinecure offices, they would probably startle many Hon. Gentlemen. The Holt. Gentleman thee read the sixth sad seventh Resulutious as follow: " That the office of Receiver General of the Land and Assessed Taxes, is one of depusil, sod fur reminisce of the Times from district collections to the Exchequer; and, its the present stale of the fisimiees of the reentry, that ser vice may be ',tolerated at • lees charge to the public than la wow incurred, with equal security against lure, sad with. equal efficiency to the public service." " That there are sixty-five Receivers' Geuersl of the Land arid Assessed Taxer' ill England and Wale", who received ao allowance of 40,7171. and 14,3481. in the years emoting the Sib January, 1818 and 1819, for the duties of their office s although the granter Number of these Receivers' General performed that duty entirely by deputy, aad retained ba lmier' of cash in their bands, which, us •si average of three years, exceeded 374,0001. sterling per masiont." Tbis balance, the Hos. Geatleman canonised, was taken at that part of the year wires it was lowest; the interrst alone on that sum would be about twenty thousand pounds, which certainly ought to be taken into cossaideratioi is de termining what should be the amount of remunerative. He saw no reason whatever why the Receivers' General should be only called on to pay the balances in their baud+ into the Treasury quarterly, whsle all other receivers were obliged I. do it weekly. The principals, who did nothing, not ouly re ceived all the puuudage granted by Government, but were paid a fee by the deputies for the privilege of collecting the tax. He insisted drat wee of two courses should be pursued, either that a salary adequate only to the trouble and risk should be assigned the ReceivereGeneral, or that proposals should be publicly tirade, sad teraders received from indivi duals fur transferring to the Treasury the receipts of the tax on the lowest terms. He pledged himself that indivi duals as respectable as any who at present held the offices, would be ennui( to undertake the duties connected with them, solely in consideration of the use of the balances which would be in their hands. The post•horse duty had been for many years collected without one shilling charge to the public. The land tax was wholly received is the country by the bankers, and its traaavissiuu was rendered in. finitely more easy by the vast increase of banks, than whew the poundage bad bees first granted. The arrears in the God and assessed taxes, aetwubstanding the great security required Gera the receivers, were greater than in any other branch of the revenue. la the Customs at present they were only 19,900!., and in the Excise, during a great number of years, but 60,0991.; whereas its the land aad assessed team the defalcation since the year 1790 was 304,337!. 12r. 4d,, of which amount a balance of 117,1181. ls. Id. now remained due to the public. The Honourable Gentleman thee proceeded t• sail enfurced the niuth and tenth Resolutions, stating that there were 9S distributors of stamps in Great Britain, who received al. luwances or poundage, anaituatiag to 83,303/. fur the year ending the StbJaisuary, 1818; and 88,3171. for 1819; and also retained balances of cash in their hands, which, on au average of these years exceeded 110,01/01. per anti.; and Mt the duty of the office might be performed at a less expense to the public than that at present incurred, with equal secu rity against loss, and equal efficieticy to the public service. He should propose to limit the security repined to the greatest value of stamps in their hands in sup one quarter. He thought the "abject of the remuneration and mode of •ppoiutnseet of ibis and the preceding class of officers was deserving of aileuitow in a coestitutional as well as a pecu niary point of view. After some further remarks, Mr. Hume proposed his first Resolution " That with a view of accelerating the period at whicht relief may be afforded to the country hum a part of its burdens, a continued and vigilant superintendence ought to be exercised over the expenditure of the State in all its cc vend departments; and that • minute investigatiois should be instituted into the mode and expense of mariagement anal collection in the several breaches of the revenue, in order that every redustiou may be made therein, which can be rf. ((cited without detriment to the public Mime." The question having been put — Mr. Lusittnovon said, that with regard to the pro-' positions of the Honuttrable Gentleman, his objection to them was, that the second was not funneled w feet, and that in his calculations lie had bouipared years together which were totally dissimilar. If she Honour able Member referred to a year by way of shewins the comparative state of the revenue, and the rate of cultectui4 it, he should at least eerirsuly sake a year in ever 7 way analogous, and, above all, take care in that year to compre hend every species of chat fe winch was included in the year of his comparison. Now, 111 the year 1798, the expense of collecting the Pod-uffice duties was nut included, so that us his year of comparison the Hon. Member had uraitted keep ing in view the necessity of embracing the same heads of collection. The Hues. Nlember should have also recollected that since the year 1798 the salaries of officers bad been fixed in lieu of fees, the great expense of the erarehoustill system had bees incurred, also the super lie% esprit. sea and allowances; there was, therefore, No fair croup. oon begetter the years the Han. Member had gloried. He (Mr. Lashingion) would therefore altogether exclude frosts his comparison tie years 1798,1707, mid 1810. He should also, before be went Grolier, allude to a material error is the rate of calculation of per cestage select epos by the Hon. Member. There werriie the details materially *c reweua isfereures deduced is nusequeues of such unseal culatioos. For instance, in the year coding theSiliJimaary„ 1920, the per orange ea the gross receipt was sot 61. ls.3ed. but !IL 13s. yd. The error arum Into the Hun. Member's outing the,eirtitui line of /tunes in his caleislatioo.—(4 loop& )—The ins sod seeded heads of his caleolotaiiii ought sot therefore to be plowed 'ass the Jammed% as they. coatuised as egregious erne. The third sailboat, was It to. be put ea record, aad therefore he should out object lan tar, ~'~°" = ~