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leis inteetirsit to Voting forward such a motion, fOSC 50 114`efi ti .1 It. I hour B#4‘ly to say. that 1 s l i med he the la 4 111:1:3 111 111 , .-wintry to Coon irmin e citiiiitirit-s, il.tris., or tinfoil alsi aspers ikiinks, agaikist .t ay individual, rieber nigh or low in b witty. 1 ;es the mute we:lutes that jestire should be 41004: to the character cut his Royal Highness., on ',emelt of the reek anti situation which he holds, b e cestee it is the more necessary that it ol hi be f ree ,' front Mame and iispi•tsio. I should lo• anio :at the first to thseou es et. any mistlisevous or b ~,,. retentions, which refold rose such a emispiracy as the Right Honourable Gentleinais , , te has tilkekl of; but it it it quite itupossitile to prevent great • public characters from etwoutets roue anis reprerentarions, to a free country, where free data of slisrniwiou must be maimed. It is, how ever. in a free elointry, tliikt equal slit iiiitaAe is given to the aceas...l, to jleitify his character, and go.loing Ire must iseeesmarily skew himself to tlye *sold, sal the must honourable polut of view.— There has been hardly any man, at any period, wht. has tint sintlored more or less the Mermen reeler voiiiplailicil of; but one Of theJereat benefits setwahog nor free ksvailitiorien, and the freesheu of discussitve Ils, that it is always remitted the inure easy to Laing the weenier forward ii, o the Courts of Law. re- wider the ioyestigati tttt Of this Illintw, es as to Tree aspersed latft4:lll from ell the cede o f groundless %%pennon. sod giving them All oppor tuuity of they with a greater degree of CT. dit than t we ewer enjoyed before. That such may be the result of this inquiry I most ardently wish. I could uot have entertained a bli*- 1)0:21 . -111 of such cheers, had it not been nwing to tot- tkartieular facts being so specifically stated. 1 c silt have no other view bill that of sb justice to the country, and the Honourable Nleinber who has brought forward this motion. I seconded him because I think he deserve* well of Isis country, and I sin happy to find that Gentlemen oil the other side in some degree concur in the same opinion." Mr. ADAM observed, that on a question of :itch instextance as that at present before the !louse, a gleesome which emittersred so high aelimacter in the emostry as that of Isis Royal nightie's. he shonld feel that he was wantilie in his duty as a Member of P e ale:nese. if he did not *tate (lus tre-0y still easislidle his opinion (spins the course which bethought moat proper tts be adopted by Parliament. There was a print iple. he observed, is our Constitution, winch he was confident would be applied in the present ease; and that was, that every man should be presumed to be innoceut, distil lie wits pro7;el to have been guilty ; but Wit:l- Mit requiring toe extension of this prime:lle in its fullest sense, there was a cireurnoteisee tied 'should Itchier the linnse most cautious in the case now betere them.. and that was, that many reports had beet) cioculetel, sad molly farts, or rather reputed facts advaaced riom a quarter unfit to be credited. Report haul gone aboard which producedm great effect wpon the public mind, and therefore the lions.- should be more cautious and more doubtful. sa prejudice had been excited. He could. arm*, that he haul 611e4 ebewituatiois in *bleb he stow 'toed for newt twenty years. in the course edits period he might he presumed to know something of the Royal Duke, something of his affairs and of hos diameter ; he could also state (not iaduced by ray fact; ig of vanity, but from it seise of justice to that Utast Anna Persnnaerl . that he bed acted gra tuitously in his station. and therefore cuss fret from the inipis tattoo of any improper Liar. He could state, that he was aequeinted with the situation of the wham of this. IlliiSiri tttt S Personage. haying heard them Mentioned by himself with an acruracy which he had Often minuted ; and in oil the time lie had arced him, he nail kisown and beard of do appoint meats, but such as the Duke of Bedford or Nor thumberland must have approved, and such as they outs{ have aloptuel in a similar situate:m.- 14e e• assist...red it a 4 ni fortumste circustence i for t at Illustrious Personage, that charges were now brought forward, which called for public in- 1 quiry,aridle enterteined no doebt of what the result 1 moist be, froM the character of the individual in question. He did nut wish the House to abaadon the resources with which it was furnished; by ap pointing a commiesiou to investigete this business. they lent every power to posnote mid give effect to the his/Mrs. ' Publicity he considered a princi pal ebisee in such a ease, and therefore a Commit tee of the «hole House, at which all might be pressed, any, ill his estimatien, the most proper 6..... fire they could adopt. The principle 1.10011 o Melt he was anilines that the inquiry Armful be emotes - tied, was publicity ; sod the tnquisitorial power with whit+ Parliament was invested, he coo siderial fully adequate to the rise now before thesis. A collo i d:Mit had been urged, that an ex change was not permitted mud it ran rrpkescntekl ns singular ; but he coal,' ferash the Heine with one that if:viewed its smeoilarity, ut lento, and that was the close of Sir George Leith. ;who ap plied for an exchange fmos ball-pay to whole-ray, and wire to his certain kneosleilge. refused, tie should, from a consideration of all the circuit stances, conclele, that nothing short of the moot public investigation could be pirmerly adopted, In the importaot mid singular occasion that was brought under their cognisance. Mr. WILDS:BI4OIKr. observed, that it sets very soisti!liegly he troubled the House. hut that he ttorild not avoid conjuring them to reflect maturely between the advantages of an inquiry conducted t I the p sr of the House, and those of an investigs tion, where evidence must be delivered upon (tole its agreed that the Hon. Mover was entitled to the highest ;Noise, if the l barges he It:ought for erred had probelelity to countenence them ; sit all writs he rejoiced that sp.-ene chary ea had been u; yid, 41111 nil isivestrgation set ou foot; the result of which must lie satisfactory. It was impossible, Iry tule:eterd, for one who had sat so lung as he had iis the [louse, net to know, that there were many inconvemencee in esercising those functions of • judicial stature with which it ass tested; party spirit es sited in that assembly ; if individuals of liisferior station, and inferior :nterest, to the Per ooe now iis question. could influence, or be supposed to influence, its opinions and deci sions, moss it possible that the roe. pilings re-pect ic:4 that individual could pass without suspicion ? Be professed himself a friend to publicity as mitch as any one puesent ; but then it was not publicity during the port via of inquiry, but subsea tent to its cooclusiou, that he advocated. Atwitter reason - . why he ohjected to a 'Committee of the whole HAUSr, wet the revirelieliey of exemining the wit nesses upon oath. If he were himself examined, he would prefer giving Ilia taistiouney ui such .1111.1.4111Vf. liteit.lSU it WHIM he the fullest security he could ',ford of Iterieg speketi the truth, and ben so flin by 1. eveise of justice alone. lie would acknowledge, that great and splendid AS were the 11`0111WS11,114 of the Illustrious Chat-deter le-might befere them, anti heel Si we. the respect *lnch that character itself st collimate!, there at, one involved 01100 this occasion, about which he dill nut feel lienself less deeply interested. 'the character of that House ass now upon its trial, Alla tile s Way to titled itself was by ethibitingam in sewer of . ,:,,e , ,ti i atioto. distinct from all party views nd party (coitus. If the Ilwese were reselied to exercise its jorricial diameter in this isistatire, it must forget the former instances in which that re soleti &&&& was acted on ; night after night, they muse be involved in piety and personal disputes, and elibject to a thousaud casualties, interfering with the olecet they ailioithl have in view. There sea, pedlars, luasieks, nu iinfecoruen in extuni tt iii g at the liar such persona at it might be iiteAtai.ary to pro duce; theca were so titatiy uNeetiuits. that he hoped the itteseeire would tint he adopted.. which, was likely to produce such teconvenicuce in SU ineMry so importaut. Mr. PERCEVAL exoressed his satisfaction I . IIOIIIIK that all were of one opiutnu as to the pro priety end indispensalniity of inquiry ; atul diet the only dilferenee subsisting in the House was, with respect to the manner in which that inquiry should be conducted. Ile could state to the House, that the course most expeditious and mutt public was the course most agreeable to the feelings of hie Royal Highness; and that his Royal Highness was /trefoil, to appear, 'most this; oreasion, like may Wird. depeeding exelteivete neon the jestice of his rause; he could widerteLe in ereke his credit, that if others eltosild be found culpable, the Illus trious l'eemnege t., whom ha alluded WAS pure and unsullied. The liouee haul ample power to set in the present friht•; it al Id be cautions in adoptiug a preetelent from which it might be inferred that the coectirrence of all the branches of the Legislature was tiereseary to such pmarcutions ; and that with out concurreuce, no trial could he adopted. He al- losed that much taconvenienee must result from exemming at the Ber of the House. but every in convenience must he net in a ease of thin kind. If ever the course of testier was unlikely to be inter rupted by party feeling, he might pronounce the hist-we. ender their eatiederation to be exempt ; 6.r they were mundinnus as to the propriety of sift ing dos charge; they were nisanitnous in the repro twstiiiii of it. if it appeared unfounded. lie did not require to be lanceted, after his experience, that theme were persolis in the town who advents al coat- intssiutes tinder the regular price, to dupe the igno rant end the foolish ; he slid twit rest -Are to be in fennel that. they might have some idea that certain el1:11 In is AO WI tied pigtail were lei b e distiostel of, at the time time that they blot no other zittthorit v hi the dispose% of them, than if they w.•re in another lie- • eieeliere; and thereforehe omit! MI t opoi.r that a ease might be inade out to the Hon. hlover,wkaich mield Vtvciseitwe sispraralic r proltability,at iliewsinetime at it was remote. natal truth. Nothing, liesidinitted, iouttl be more discreditable to Ciorerntneut ; and, at the stone time, tiothing more false-iii fen, than that :say of them, or of those it; iiieis responsible *toughest., *haul.' be guiey of what his Royal highness wan charged with—the crime of .corrop time Ile was far front agreeing with an Hon. Clentlessem. that publicity, after inquiry, was all that was desirable; it was only by punheity, in the 'mum of the inquiry, that the natio.). could be satisfied that all sus fair. that no eviderwe was suppressed, tit it uo fact was inisreeresented ; mod therefore lie would contend for the prt &retire of that mole which was Mira likely to give *mist:ice tires to the conetry, and tin justice to the feelings and the character of Ike Royal Hightli'SS. He re quested, that the name* of the pinion% et the office should be mentioned, if the Iloi. Mover did not feel himself -bolted to keep them secret; he could see ne reason why delietcy preveet their disclosure. • for. in the investigation, it lutist be intended to bring them forward. Mr. WARDELL said, that the office was in Threed needle-street ; that the name of one clerk was tie lock, and of the other he believed Yellen ; and the Perseus of whom they spike were the Lord Chan cellor and the Duke of Molina. (el load hinge.) The queetion that a CoMmittee should be ap pointed, wise then putatul carried unanimously. The CUANCELLUE u: the Erectieeetet thee reeved. " That the eause Committee 'Mould he of the a heele house ;" whseiu was also earned unstable 'Howdy. After the question was carried— Lord FOIRITONE objected to the inconvenience arieisig from proceeding by a Cousatittee of the whole House. Ile compleitled, that the course re cnininewle.l by his Honourable Friend (Mr. Itt'ar dell,) teas r,-iciArd, and that a different procedure was euteettuted in its place. This, he said, war the ' of taking the blesinasoi out of the. halms of his Honourable Friend. lie recollected instances in which the Right Hon. Secretary com plained of such conduct respecting himself. Mr. CANNING expressed his surprise, that any Member, considering the state of the circum stances before them, should prefer a more li mited to a more general and public investigetiim of this important subject. Whether he considered the nature of the charge, whether he conederial the personage against whom it was directed. or the consequences which, tinder as iaipmhablr. stippo oiticow, (the sueleisitiou of its establishment), must obviously result, it was one which, front even feel ing and every prineiple, he tieaught entitled to the most boleinn. grave, and public 'scrutiny. As in the l'aSr of the Duke of Marlborough, the Committee would have an opportunity of aseerthining the con sequence of established delinquency ; and the hit premioti that must remain tesill every luau's I be would pre) •tobe in favour of an early anal public acquittal, in a collie whew there was rions and so injurious a charge. It had hero im puted to his I Inn. Friend, that he had taken the business out of the hands of the line. Mover, and hie lion. Friend had been reminded of some sive ealvions on which he complained of etch a combiet iu others towards Ishii. lie admitted that there might have been °minions on which he had come Wainer!, .aed.compluined with justice; but Le de med that 11. ar. Nitta, t he esid 1.1 view 41.i4 aAaittl:(l lit the soter:erenee. it his Him. Friend imald hr said to have token the busowes out Of the liou: Mover's timid), it was not thethe purpniie tut de felting that 'mollies*, 'or Weakening or Bruiting its olscratuni ; hut to render It Mate public, more CillitillEVC, and !ain't! inkier'. Ile did but leer any object mil from the Hon. Vluser Imaself, com pl of the proteisition of his lien, Friend, end that lie emisidereil au additional ergumeot why. lie should thin!. li,4litly of the objections of others. lie professed himself williiig to jolt, in the ape plasters afforded to the I Mover, to subscribe his tribute nf tininage ;suit inheirat• to the man liness with which lie inuugu t forward this charge, if. as lie had no doubt, it originated iii patriotism ; if it sprung from that pure, that disinterested and holionntble motive, a wish to discharge Ins duty to the-country ; but, at the some time, the charge wars hinny, the responsibility was great, mud lie hail sin melinution to, disguise that, in such a case, in- Luny• must attach somewhere. Ile agreed with his Him. Friend, that this ens a fortunate day—not only for the Duke of York—not only for the public. others---isot roily for those concerned in the Go vern:petit, but for the country itself. It had brought forwent, in a tiregible shape, falterer that bad been long end industriously circulates., and reduced them from their fitietuating movement.' to a form in which they tould be grasped end com prehended. Libels had gone tile oad, accompuni.d with a brutality of insult that at nu former period had disgraced the peers. The evil was now exces rive--it had advanced to a cewer. which al t called in guestion the advaiduires of liberty ; end many were at first incliarel to witvircate its 'suppres sion ; though, upon further and more ensnare re flection, they concluded that it still was is blessiiik. They hail seen in the proceedings of this very day, that liberty, while it her its detect., has also aithuu itself au energy to correct them ; wind that abilepub liecharges may be made, public delruice may he rqs posed to them with faiiiiitleitce aed writs el f, e.— Ile congratulated tie House on the prof act open to them ; insidious and asionymons libels were at au end ; the time of ryes attack and of sure aceuittal was arrived; one of the highest charac ters the station was to he asserted before the politic tribunal, and the trillionth, to be as public as it ought to be, should be that of the v.1.01e Huns,. Ile therefore enneurred in the motion, hut be wonkl state the sense in whits he concurred in it. He admitted, that it was a just ground for Parliamentary inquiry, when sreciiie charges were brought forward . ; but be submitted to tlicinitg,neut and decision of the House, whether the inquery .elsould be, in the first instance,directed to the facts, or to those stated groutids of accuoation brought forwent by the HOD. Mover Ile concluded with a contidetit insurance of the terminetion of this inquiry, which be hoped would be as speedily pro ' Decided, as it was likely to be honourably deter mined. Mr. WIIIITSIMAD said, lie was unwilling to rise ; but would nevertheless offer a few remarks "Inch the oresssioo dictated, Mill remleml it, 'nine thegree - ii•eassary., ue concurred fully with the Hors. Cietitlettoin who had just use rleasii.Js. the preference he had given to u more public and a inure general, above a !mare privute nail a min-, •fra that euliker had linen as: ably argued and so energetically esiforied, that nothing need be added by hint, and it was chiefly to ex , press a wish;aristug from his attachment to liberty end the remenitiitime . that he trespassed neon their attention. Ile thoight it was iseressary hiss thein to be vented how they wend appoint a corn-, rshi+*sou it, the preseut histenee, as it might be establsoliitig a precedent in the case of an Illustrious Personage, which would uut equally apply to the cases of such perilous as were oar-riot in mak:— That iscoeseniesseir might result from a trial at the liar be admitted; bet, at the mine time. there could i.e se) ettectual olistroceou ha inquiry ; unit the people .of England should a, jai that time House lied stork aluivilege, by sIN, Ili they were enabled to do justice to the Sovereign and the sub ject. One Him. Gentlemen hail objected, that there was a conspiracy in iesistence which almost rendered the advantage of ter liberty of the pries • a disputable poiot. Ilc Wall sorry that that His,. one who was so Ultimately connected with thecountry, forming one of its administratiou, at this day, sl lit be led, a Motatat, 1: : - any coneequeuces of eyeess, to hesitate as to the advantage of the possession of freedom. His loyal Ilighoesia" he was permaderl, belonging to the House of Brunswick, recollecting the circum stances which placed that House upon the Throw, even though he had suliered•fruut its excesses, did not call in question it. utility; but if this cupola far, did emit, if this Motility was evitaced upon the part of any subject or siihjects of this MAIM, where were the Ministers, where were the Law Officers of the Croats ? eoulei Ley n o t, ou.. ; lit they tint to have proseceted ; and was not the circumstauce of their not prosecuting, is pre riimption against the es:itemise of this comporacy. But it appeared frosts what till from the Bight lionouralsle Gentleman, in the latter pint of his speech, as if lie wrialikimpiite to his (Mr. Whit breed's) lionotarable Frieial, a connexion with those anonyinqus rleirilererr ; but his Honourable Friend caine forward with facts, which, in hit opi nion, were a foundation for elm motion. Ile sought no concealinent, nor did he use ally language but such as was lie C° g and decorous ;he therefore felt Mauch' justified in astertilig, that though GU infamy should attach to his Royal highness, as he was certain none would, neither would his lion. Ft iehd derive a particle of dishonour from the caudate he bad pursued ; he must appear to the House and to the world, as one anxious to per form his duty. and he must stand before the public as a feithful servant, awl an intrepid assetter of their rights. Ile rut netted hisunfeignerl thanks to his Hon. Friend fuss conailg forward Is he had done, and wise certain that the friends of :he Duke of York would feel themselves no lass obliged by the opperunity he had afforded of viadicatiog an in 'Wren reputatium Ile profewse.l himself on iodine Heate for itinuiry, mid inquiry comlucteil upon the most public ground. It would be impowidole to constitute any Committee that nii4lit not he void lie die loathe to have been flocked ; Niel, ihrrefole. a Committee of the a10e... House wag iimispetisatie:. • . , . . fly that alone mold satisfaction be rendered to the - public--hy that alone toukl rioics, awillkieat extent, tat doimiLtu it, Royal Wel:lr.:Ss. t. I.'rd CA3ILEKIP.A6II tra-pass Jong, cspecia:tyas co:u •-ii nion prevailed *nuirersally through the llinnur. 44c; ti ought it exttaurrhroiry of the :Noble 1..01d to wait until the questior was put, and, uftvs to had-breu 4;etlartdOetatit.e disseraunde, then tsune foisard with . his ol.ijection. If Mal at the Lar produced tleiay, the case was of impartanc% tip justify that delay—the case was happily to be sub-' mined to the industry of Parfisineat, and theie decision would place it, isaue 6eyeind dispute. With respect to the s',stematic plan to run down the cha racter, not only of the Duke of York, but of %.11 the itoyal todestroy life monarchical prin.. c:ple of the constitiftion, thau4lf one Hon. Gen- . tleroan did not setup to give it h:i credit, he could • assert that it aa. the feet. The Crown Lawyers, it was wan!, should •iu,titete prosecutioas; but if they were to prosecute a:1 the propagators of li helious publications, they could do within! all their tune would ilt COll,lllllCd in the ta,k. Crown was attacked hy throie,who,in former 1.14 oppoveil it hy fun ce of grins, but now raved th:::r mode of attack, in the trope that it wood lse wore successful. We find it stok‘tbu case, that as soon as the lila:ll4ms matter is prepared. 1110 iinellsr flies the country. sits Lor.iship coni•luded sub es ' pasesiag luscancurreuee in the Motion f or a Cara isidtce of the whole Done. Mr. WIIITIFISAD explumed. He inquired if the puiihsliers were nut punishable,ltiouoi the princi pal had vamped ? and was answered h 7 Lord CASTLESSAGH, that the publii.l.er was prosecuted. • ' Lord FutatiTotiS explained. The Quiation ASS , then put mud carried ; hat the lions* , shouid re.. solve itself into a Culoinittee on Wedne,4lsy next. Mr. I 'e.KCY.7•L requested, that the lion. 0.-:.- Chosen *mild avlect tint charge, tied summon Le a itnesees on itload sy next. %Jr. WASDISI.I. requested the intlii . .gesce.alt the House roi a cloy or two. Theve were, h* aiM, tame (Mimes retnined train Spain, whore it aught he nece►sary to examine ; and, therefore, he would wish to defer 1:. Mr. ADAM proposed 'Tuesday, to which Mr. Wardell acceded. Mr. Caakvv postponed his notice. for India Pa pers, to Tuesday next. Mr. l'oxsoxay as' I, whether any account was - intended to be Lid Lenine the house of our low. in Spain? au, if it were not the intention of Mii:isters to prodm.e them, Ire should make a motion to that ett'ect. Lnrd CASTLIDITAGS *neutered, that he wonhi consusimicate tire informatioa o• vein as it arrived ; hut when it would arrive, he could not undertake to U. General Srcr►aar olererrod, that thongh report haii eel (town our los% ht eight or aloe thousand men, he could *tote that it did not exceed4iiilf that oinither ; he raid he included is tilt% estimate the looses rime our army landed in Spain. Adjourned. THE BRITISH PRESS. LONDON, • SAVA rIAY. Jive mires. flffi irl adirtcri have been reveirt ti by Govern ment, front St. Domiorgooo the 17th 01 Notettiher. An Expesiition 11241 been vein from I'orto Itito to drive the French out of the island. (hi the 30th . of October, Ger.44i-:41 FE/MANI), with 230 French and 259 Siraninr.l4, pi ioceedeil to attack the iota tlero; hitt the Spitiouth. its ti.* army torneria:zainst him in the action, (SARA \o shot 1144(120C-4. The Spantar.l2 thaw dove the French into the uvr• of St. Lhuniiieo, where they blovituarel them, • sail hope 4coon to on•pri tnern to nerreinler. The island of Samson W. bevel ekes I ore.e.ion of bye • Britivh Officer, In pledge for the Spani:irds. The French planters • are to' remain in the Islamd on t:tking au oath not to engage in hostility, and oa sitliecring up their arm fillajur It‘tamr, of the ,mod P.k7itnent, arrived, estenlay, from Lisbon, left the Tagus, Atonary the 16th ; went into Vier., whieit he left Jan. IS ; and nos off Janus') the 19th. At Vigo lee saw General Clutwretto, wbn, v.ith the Follow ing corps under his cotantspd, were safely em- Larked, end intended to sail the following day, viz. the second louttahon, 5.d; first ditto, 431.1; second ditto, 95th, and twu re4iluents of the Gen. 1111311 Legion. _ ti. Lord Csnt.taxscH, in answer to a question from Mr. l'nxsumax, last intlit, in the House of Commons. stated, that a return of the killed and woululcil iu Spit.in would be laid before the liar-e as soon as it could be procured. but that he conll not me-erten' the precise time. Gen &raw ART took this opportunity to assure the phase, that the total loss, from the time. the army entered •S adiu. uut.i its embarkation at Comma, did wit exceed e,ion men, beirig sliout oue-lialf of the amount at which report tit ,tad it. Mr. Witaart.t., in the 14ouse of ronstrons. last night. staged his ease against his Royal nightie-a the Duke of Yoe'. c!--irgiliz s erersi iilistiw:t spon otic aria of abuse of his office ns Commands r-jus . a ith respect to the giant of commitsicii• Alu►n,t the whele of the tran.rrts, with As army from Car - mina, apiount mg to about 19,0n0, are arrived at Portsmouth, Plymouth, ami 1:4- month, with the exception of the c.n airy, which; with the Foot Guards will proceed to the Deans. The latter, and those nl ready an i, ea in the Daus ; will hr distributed in the pivot district. It si.petws Nun this arrangement, that dime troops are to eur joy some respite before they are again scut upon service. I