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satoghent ' playing fur a repeal of the Penal Laws ....().dea....().deadd to lie on the table. Mr. Micetioett presented a Petition from the Clergy of Wiltshire, against the Catholic Claims. The floe. Gentleman took occasion to say, that he agreed with the sentiments of the Petitioswrs. He 1141 d. if the &liniment of the Regent wished to pre- Puree their place% they should not waive a subject of pitch vital importance, they should meet in a ol.culeil manner the question one way or the other. Tn e Ilan. C. H. HUTCHINSON coodemeted• a. imparliamentary and unconstitutional. the I sogsage of the last speaker. ft was most uncoil. *oust ~,,, al for any Hon. Member to say that the of the Crown should be permitted to still. soy question or to carry any question what. ever. He would repeat. that the lengoope was in the highest degree unperliamentory isibconatis t whom!. Mr. llurnalte mtplaitied. Mr. Lurie ‘Vuts.w.si.tv presented • Petition from the Ciergy of Salisbury against the Catholic Claims. The Hoe.tiesisleman said, that be could I .nt but look with Norm urn the naked Claim, of the Cohn! e. ; bat lie *ll no humility towards them. on the contrary, he ounsid wish to see them restored to all the tights wwial4 compatible with the safety of the Coostitutios. Story could enjoy. He hoped• that the Right Hon. Oesueinan vionkl. whets he In/night forward lei minim, be able to phew the llouse exactly the stature and extent of the Claims of the Catht.lics, mid of the Meuritie• they were willing to give. If hermit(' beconvincrd that they meant nothing ageism the Protestant Ascendancy. anvil that their Claims were compatible with the oublic safety • he would be one of those who would feel pleasure. in changing his opinion upon this mast important subject. 'llle Petit was ordered to lie on the table. Colonel O'Netti. presented • Petition from the Pristestantiof Antrim spinet the Claims of the Ca tholics. It was, be said, signed by MAIM ptllll/110. 4.000 I.f . whnws were inhabitants of Belfast. The Provost was ordered to lie on the table. Mr. W. Pitottee.i. said, he had • Petition to present Irian thatoman Cathidic lidialistaute of the tsarists of Arklow, and an adjacent parish, in the y of Wicklow. The Hon. Geutlentan en. I irgeil on thilniprovemesit hourly taking place in the condition and habits of the lower classes in ireland, is, conseqwence of the extension of the heitttlib of education, which, he fisted. the Roman Ifistlitilec clergymen, in numetims instructs with winch he was acquainted, used every exertion to promote. The floss. Member suede • variety of oh...nations on the omit policy of admitting our Catholic fellow.subjects to • full participation in the privileges of the C•intitution, which, were. greet, some confusion in the gallery prevented MI from hearing distinctly. The Petition was then brought up. read, and laid on tlw table. Mr.thSIES lINOwNt said, that in asking leave to present a Petition from the Romeo Catholic lobs. Minns of the county which he represented (Mayo). Ire would leg perssisnou to say. that its prayer was -*she placed. as to all the privileges of the Conti lotion, oleo' the mime fabling as their Protestant telloss.sobjects; and he would hututily suggest to the Flossie, that, in this period of profound peace. to 110 way could the attesitiou of the Legislature be snore beneficially directed, than'towards devising a remedy fur the evils seising from the state in which perseois prefessing that reVgion are placed by law. No eatlonal person could seriously argue that the religion (if it was to be guarded against) was guarded against by a continnince of the eaclurion from Parliament. the only political privilege the Catholic's did not now enjoy. Mr. - noutoic• Boomer entirely concurred in the 'a insolent. expressed by Isis colleague. He sincerely hoped that the motion of his Right Hon. Friend would succeed in bringing back our Co. tholic brethren to an equal enjoyment of the right, nod benefitt of the Coostitution, from which they had so long been unwisely and cruelly excluded. Tile Penile, was read, sod laid on the tattle. Genenit keenest:l, wed, that he held its his Lash! the Petition of the Frotettset Inhabitants of the county he had the honour to represent. the of agret4l en at a meeting re coissened by the requisition of 'the `lei off at E • killeo, iltayisq the Rottte to eon tome all restrictions rush exelusidiss imposed on Catholics by the existing haws. Tlus Petition toestlud the real setitimems of the people from i.!istiis it proceeded. pot At Other* which had been 4in-twitted, particularly th . .•Troin permits professing the-towhees to be Protestants of in 'event of she Catholic Claims, to procure vignettists to whirl), he understood that means the Most tooter rasitable and usiconetitutional had been resorted an. The ancestors of the ',resent Petitionerstail fuegtft and bled with King William fee the establishment nt our gldrious Constitutims, snail shy owe wow 'emitted to stand by it..—fagsieiref lewBll.l.—He thought it highly impolitic to speak of making new concessions to the Resnais Catholics. re the onmerous coocessions already made iwd only had the effect of brisiging forth new desires and prim'. tam's. But, 111 tact. as long as live (minims prevail. ell in Ireland. that Ministers were divided upon the quest ~,,, , lie expected neither peace nor quiet there. The Honourable Member concluded by moving—. 'nest the Petition be read at length, in order M Awe Geestrawn opposite what an error they had lanes into in i•taling, that the tientimesita of the Protestants of Iselasok generally, were in favourof she Valholie The Pt-Mints was then read. The question that it he tits the table having been put. Sir .1. NEWPORT said, he should not have thott e lit of noshing the smallest animadversion on the l'eti tom just lead, or on what had fallen front the Hun. cbeiwial 111 oresentisig it, had he Dot umlerstooil lain to intionste, that sigiEstores lied beeu sniduly and borieplitiously obtained tit sonieof the Petitions !mot the Protestants of Irrlatid, in favour of the Chsuus of their Catholic brethren. Bat, under 111. s e el rcouto ances---liavi lig presented a Petit to that • fret t from the Piniestant lislisbitaints of the (sty oh Waterfnid—lie felt himself called upou to eland up said pones' against any such declamation or ito.inuatiott, and in defence of his coitatituents so b.). teat the permits who put their names to 1 hat I'. tition were MS holltid and indepeisdetit, us ins apatite of tieing, influeo ced by hope or intimidas ~,,,, as the inhabitants of Fermanagh. or Noy other 'tate to the empire. The lb /Hunt ;ritual, in ex. pressing the opinions of his constituents, might to h e w, e b e teowd from tt e.-ciaig on and cesiournet the conduct of nth/ Ilrotestatits. WlOrli be coosn derail that the Jury of the county Fermis. nagh had directly oppo.eil the provisions of . the I,egislatore. the appointment of Catholic Chap. • Inca. %Own they were called op to perform I hat duty by Judge Osborne at the Assures, lie thooght they dill not come to the House with much elaiwts (NI Its anent 00000 . Ile ironed lie shoald he per mitted again to claiiii, for the other Protestant low tishitanto of tritaid, the right of giving a free ex. pression to their Owls General A114:410A1.1. said, he slid not mean to allude in the Petition from Waterford, but that from Dubliii...stial his information respecting the latter came from a source whirl) did not permit him to doubt that moot estreordituiry and vendee influence hod bees' used to procure signatures to it. Ile hail been informed that traders had been threatened wish a loos of their business. bankers with • run sin their houses, and lawyers with a orithdrawsl 'of their briefs, if limy should refine their names. A. to the Charge concerning the tried, the iselividual the Jury had refused to op. poiist was OVUM of excesoively doubtful character. Sir JOHN NOWP'ORT would expressly affirm. that the Gressel Jury had been twice called upon by Mr. eltriaice o.lwirsie to nominate a Chaplain, and that bowing at kiwi!' complied with his direction, the individual nututuated would not be allowed to act. bentose he was a degraded Roman Catholic cler. cygnet). Mr. GRATTAN mid. that the remarks of the Mem ber for Fermanagh had made it necessary for ban to rise in defence of the distorter and conduct of his con • stit swots w ten ',rationed the House. The Petitiou of the I'roteid , llllll of Hublin.had been resolved upon at a potittc Meeting held there. regularly convened. lie had dOver seen a fuller Meeting, nor any reso lution* receive a more ready +aunt from the great majority of the onto'ss foremen than those in favour of the Roman Cmtliiilics. Ile knew very well that charges ouch as those lie heard from the gallant General had been in circulation since ; but be also knew that the Protestants who attended that Meet ing were as incapable of being influenced or awed at any Protestant. in England. Souse of them were the first men iii Irelasid. The Meeting was as orderly a. Meetings of that descriptiimi usually W 0.... the tentimehts embodied in the Petition were very general—the signatores fairly and openly given, though lie could not say but some of them might have been procured iii au improper wanner. The l'elition from Dublin was signed as respectably as any l'etition ever presented. Great men had taken • part in the Meting which laid given rise ton, and tlhe Petition did them honour.—(Cheeriag./ Genets, Attenuate said that his oboerrations *lmplied only to some of the signatures. Mr. C. liercstissiom mid. that hewing presented a Petition from the Proteritauts of the Pccosid City it. Ireland, most restwetably signed, praying that the advantages of the Constitution might be ex. tended to their Catholic fellow.sobjecto, he felt linvireff 'called upon to rite and declare that no such arts a. feud been insinuated by the Member fur Fermanagh, hail opereted towards its predate+ tion or support. lie concurred fully in the semi. melds of that Petitiou. Ile was surprited that the gallant Ceiserel, who bed, during the arduous eantest of twenty years, himself freounitly led on Catlidtics. mid tenanted their heroic bravery and devotion in tlw service of their country, could enter. tails any doubts of their fidelity and loyalty. He Was Milted lotiiiiiiilved that he should raise hie voice it. that lloe‘r, to keep such fellow-subjects slaves. The Host. 11eitilwr then described at tome length the art.. which, he affirmed, had been put iii m rectice to procure tignatures to the A.uti-Cas. tl * from l)utilin. He stated that the Petition had been introduced into the Blue Coat Hospital, for the purpxse of being eigued by the boys, IPA that time tomes both of theist mod of Po lice Officers were to be &mid subscribed to it. A public miler alto issued from • Comtnasider in 'hewed that the l'elitum had been intro duced into one of the barracks to hove the list of its supporters swelled with the names of private soldiers. It was his dm conviction. that unless extraordinary and siniatural exertions were used to obtain aignstures to psi-tile Petitions. both here and in the claims of the Catholic. must be successful. and such an event WANK id lilt opinion. cooduce materially to the stolidity asid prosperity Of the empire. Mr. l'Ext defended the conduct of the Proles. boils who had originated and cumlircteit the Pets. host from Dublin against the Catholic Claim*. Willi reoptct to the rumour of obtaining the signa tures of the Blue Cost boys. that publication had been resolved at a Weird held by the Governors on the 111th March. called by the 1 ord Mayor. in COll. segoence of a lettet horn the Rev. Allan Morgan, the Chaplin's. to be 5 ' fame and scandalous." The other allegatiou. relative to. ouluitiug the names of soldiers, was disproved by * resolution of the Com. nonce of 21 Gentlemen, whom was devolved the duty of procuring signatures. ' 5 that 'wither they nsw any of them had. directly or indirectly. soli cited. received. or permitted the signature of any uomconimisstoued of or rivals." Mr. C% HUTeilthilUll said he had taken what he had stated not from any public paiwrs. but from door, Emits in his own possession. in support of Ins allegation. respecting the totrodOction of the Anti-Cathelic Petition into a berratk. the Member read the Order to the teen seder his cons. muud, at Island-bridge, issued by Brigade-Maier Wildman (soil published k short time since in the papers.) fie repeated. that he had leartied. on ouquestiotieble authority, that the must violent and ousiatural efliuts had heel' made W procure signs. toter to the l'etition. Mr. rtEt. explained. The Petition was theta Nit, nu the table. After a fe•w brief remarlo from Mr. (.'ittenESTen (we believe), the Petition was trod nod lord on the table. Mr. Prot. presented a Petition front the Pro. 'vitriol Inhabitants of the count, or Dahlia o v um, g rowing oov further office...ions to the Romeo CAtlN►lll''. lie owed the it was signed by tire or six thousand tudividualn, comprising diteen several lauded proprieties of great respretability, and mate members of the bar of the lii.4hent chit. meter in tl►eir prates'. . The Right Gentle. mon added, that it had originated from certain cit. cum•tatues that occurred at the Aleetitig convened by the Lord Mayor to petition in favour of the Cat holies. Mr. GRATTAN aid, that the condnet of the Lord Mayor, at the meeting referred to by the 144 speaker, had been highly commendable is. a very dilicate situation. The Right lion. Gentleman then entered into a detail of the occurrenc►* at the meeting, and concluded by expressing a hope, that whatever might be the event of that, or of any other ( Petition, harmony, borwllteely love, and friend. ship, might unite sill sects and classes of the coal. munity—a consummation necessary to the strength and security of the empire. -4 Cheering.) After a reply from Mr. i'tet.. and s►►tme obser vations from Mr. W. PARNELL. the Petition was read and hold on the table. A Petition was i►raeuted from the Catholics of Drogheda, in favour of the Catholic Claims.— Read. and laid on the table. . - . Mr. SlAM:atom Use presented it Petition against the Catholic Claims. from the Town and Borough of Weytnoutli.—Kead, ■nd laid on the table. _ A Petition was presented from Hampstead, in favour of die Catholic Clainta. which was read. laid on the table, and ordered to he printed. POOR RATES MISAPPLICATION. The second reading of the above Bill was poet• pooled, after snide convertatioso between Mr. S. BouRNC and Dr. PHILLIIIOIIg, frail Monday, May 3, till Monday, May 10. SINKING FUND. Mr. G 11611111: '' on the first own day mfitr the Iteport of the Committee on the affairs of the Wink should have been brought in. he would submit a resolution to the house on the expediency of applying the Sinking Fund of the year towards contracting fur any loan for the same. ILLICIT DISTILLATION. Mr. BUTLER presented a Petition from several Protestant Freeholders of the County Kilkenny. in favour of the Catholic Claims.--Kesd and laid on the table. Mr. H. nAllif presenteri a Petition from the Protestant Clergy ►esident at Bristol. ignitors the Catholic Chnins.—Read and laid cm the table. Sir H. PANNELL. in /orienting • l'efilinn from the Catholic lolistatanie of the Queen's County, prityliog a repeal or the Petrol Uwe affeetiug the prrson• of that per.tssion s took occasion to cape. uatr ou the justice of their demand s and the pru• donee of isetediac to it. The CHAWCEI:I:OIIOItiteFiXCHE.VEII wished that General Hart would postpone his motion for the amendment of the Act imposing fines on town. lands for illicit distillation its Deland. _ ..... General HART would consent. if it accommodated the convenience of the House. to pustptme it till tomorrow evening. 4 The CHANcat.T.oll of the EICHILIVaIt,InmiI tie objection to that evening. provided certain ripen should be printed in the mean time. General Haar had no doubt Ilsot if till the pi. per, which he laid moved for iu Ilfe'esidoile of this and the two preceding Seashore were is ,the hands of Members. they would furnish them with ample iiiformistion. The gallant General theta wits pen. ceedine to cl•suge the notice a his motion to that of a Resolution. which haviorg been objefed to by the tirestiza, the original motion was fixed fur to morrow evening. OA I.T DUTIES. Dr. Pittt.i.sirdaz, in rising to bring forward his Resolutions respecting the Salt Duties. moved, That the Resolutions of the Committee of 1818, on the same subject. be read. They were accord ingly read by the Clerk. contaiiiing the opinion of the Committee. that the gradual reduction and ultimate total repeal of the duties on salt would be highly beneficial to the country at large; that they were only prevented from reconinieuiling the immediate adopt of the latter measure by the state of the finances • and that the consideration of the question should be resumed early in the 'wet Session of Parliament. The Hon. Member then observed. that his having been a member of the Committee which had come to such resolutions, mid the great improvement in the state of the revenue tOr the last year. would. he hoped, be a sufficient apology for his renewing the consideration of the subject. The recommen d ation of the Committee should carry more weight with the present Parliament, limn the circiimsortice that the Members of it had met with very little chance of agreeing in opinion, hut hail, siotwithstaintiog, anomalously come to the resolutions they had heard read. Tire ronoitiorr to be discuseed was of the first importouce with r e . ft-mace-to she comforts Hod morals of the poor, she maritime state and resources, and the anemia, si tuation of the country. It ilid not require any lengthened discussion to prove that • tee on salt was impolitic and unwise—it was impolitic and unwise, because it was imposed upon a neer.. wiry of life. roil moreover a necessary of constant consumption by the poor. It increased the prow rate*, it deprived the poor inhabitants of the sea. toast of the means acuity eiijoying the abundance of provisions bestowed on them by Providence, and it had the most injurious effect. oil the aoorele of the lower orders. The Ilion. Member then revel several communications made In the Com. mittee of last %elision in support of his reasuss. ing. Another way in which the toe emoted most prejudicially. was in its effects on our Asheeirli. By the operation of these laws, the fisheries of this empire were most certainly prevented from attain. Mg that eminence Which they otherwise twist hold from the geographical situation of the kisigdom, end the spirit mod ellieflitllle of its inhabitants.— /Neer, hear.):-1f it were not fur these laws, the Dutch and Swedes, who pay no salt duty. would not have it now iii their power to undersell the Iwo. ple of Ohl country iu fish iu the home and foreign markets. He may, indeed. be told that in several plates the salt for curing lisle was duty free ; but to this lie would reply, that the regulstions sad restric tions by whirls this rtrairliosui was uteoMptisied, ren dered any good effect from it quite nugatory. The severity of the Excise masictions rendered the prism lege alio:tether imperative. In this department 100 &tribe officers were employed. and it was not in human stature that arbitrary power could he bested to etch A number of Muds without the occurrence of a variety of abuses. His gnat clicctiou war, that it was oriposaible to coritinue these laws with. out petpeteating the etisteuce of the most op. premier abuses. To obtain the exemption from duty. the fisherman was obliged to enter into • putticelar baud, with tee sureties, his ware. e r -z , liffil to 111 1111 l lII , r, that NM:M.l4"re mons lowa,. so., *MI mirrepiitiously obtained to sonic of the Petitions Mr. BUri.Eft presented a Petition from several bons by whit !ono the Protestants of Ireland, in favour of the Protestant Freeholders of the County Kilkenny. dried any gc Claims of tloir Catholic brethren. Bat, under in favour of the Catholic Claims..--Kead and laid s e v er i t y o f th 1 li..c ci memo.' Haters......hnsilig - presented a Petit to °lb the table. lege alintzett that • ir.t t from the Piiiiestant Inhabitants of the Mr. N. Darts presented a Petition from the Ig s e ise Ak e city o 1 Waterfoid—lie felt himself called upon to Protestant Clergy resident at Bristol. against the h u m an swim .tend up raid protest against any such declaration Catholic Claims.—Read and laid ou the tattle. in each a nu' I,r ii:.inuatiiiii. and its defence of his coosittuents Sir H. PANNELL. in presenting a Petition front of a variety i to b.), neat the persons who put their minim to the Catholic liihalitanis or the Queen's County, that it was ii that hullon weir as hoorbt and indeprodent. as in. Praying a repeal or the Penal Laws affeeting the out perpetdi • vadolr of being, influ.i red by hope or intimida • persoo. of that per•isasion, took occasion to raps. premier ohohim, him, as the ii.hobitant. of Fermanagh, air any other I time sun the justice of their demand s and the rue duty. the ft i Site in the empire. The I: .Mani General, in ea. denee lel accretion to it. particular 1 •. . . • .„. we ' • ' . • . . . , -...4.0 411 401.10. 1 4114 . . . ~.- • ... - • . . _.. - low, sr store most alsotes remain open In the exciseman.. soil when the atuoiroit and extent or These bowl. isecause known through a paper placed on their tahle last year, it wig no wonder that the ; exemption was an ortwil nullity. For the pieced. big years to the date of the return, the moonlit of i these hoods in Greet Britain was 107.844.000/., ex- l clasive of 3010,0001. in a remote Iran of the empire. When bawls to such an extent weer formed in so short a petimi. It was eltident that tun irefiiollo could ernhark in thi. triode Inns Sorge rapitalixtx and MOSS. I polid..--(Appianse./-..The cc desire given before I the Committee ut the Wiese I ist war clearly 'hews MI that the poorer Classes 1"010.1 not riiiliask to the, fi.hrrues in the manner thq ought, sub. ; ject to such • variety of g,alltaig restriction.. The i poor people in the north of Scotland particularly, were prevented from making their herring fisheries adequately available, by the epprehension of the penaltiee to which they would be liable for any accidental oasis of ftrui that in their ignorance they might commit. With respect to the newton' .benefit which the improverneut of the fisheries would Creel!. he hell to refrr to the opium's of owe of the Secretaries of the Ailtneraltv, who had de. Glared, that if the `alt duties were taken off 20,0011 t additional hands would immediately get emPloy. ' meld upon the resist. and their race of hardy and 1 enterprising sailors would be preserved in au till• ployment suited to their balms. On these grounds •he thought the salt laws moat impolitic, for they ! actually preyed on the vitals of the Slate, slid con sumed that which ought to be cowitleved it. perma nent nourishment. In looking too at their bail .1. feet upon agiictilture, and prevent's% those die- ', laical experiments in which they formed so great an ingredient. he saw enough to justify their repeal. It was on this ground that the Committees or Ivo' and ISIS perfectly concurred in recommending the repeal. The Chancellor of the Eulogiser him self. who was ' nen of ate them, adopted the same o • , sod admitted the inipolicy of c itsm the existing plan. How then could lie suffer those laws to continue is operation ? The real question was reduces' to this :—Ought a tax a hods was fitoilanp:utally wrong, which tilts. mutely retracts from rather than confers benefit upon the people, be suffered to exist when its ill effects became manifestly apperent ? Every dry the impoliey was gaining ground. and in the motion with which he meant to conclude, his object was ; to record, in • declaratory manner. the opiiiion of the two Committees which lied already wit, and by so doing to reader it unnecessary when the subject should be taken up hereafter, fur future Committees to erode again through such soother of eoidhisee. When he first gave his no . tice, he tirght of at once bringing in a Bill fur the gradual reduction of the duties ; but on considers- Uri, he felt it would be better to await the Chancel. ler of the Exchequer's anemial statement on the Bodge.. and vermin from stay specific plan, with . a ilk* of ?raw whether it was the intention of t ' • it Mass. Gentleman. which be hoped it Id be ere • long, to place the titmice* of .• . upon a permanent footing, and give of propping them by expediesits. The Icouutry had reason to expect fair dealing, and that Ike statement of their finances should consist uf a plaid debtor and credit account of the income Oil ripe side and the expenditure on the other, accessi. hht sod intelligible to all.—( Hear. )—U tit il lie saw whether this course would be taken, he Keret red to put a record on their Journals, in the shape of reoo lotions, which inertly expressed the severity of the salt laws, the greet advantage the country at large . would derive from their re t wal, and froin the ow. restrained use of Pelt in different branches of trade mid agriculture, and expres.ing doe expediency of • gradual reduction of the duties as early as pool. ble. In this question there was no party feeling,. (Hear, hear.)—The past Parliament hail done itself honour by rejecting an odious tax which pressed , must heavily upon the rich --the present Parliament would, he trusted, do • still nobler act. by repeal. iug a law which ',resod most heavily upon the 1 4041 e.—( 1 lear. I—He concluded by moving the foll•twing Resolution : " That. considering the severity sod pressure of the existing salt ditties upon the mount classes ' and the great advisilisei he fisheries and atriessuare which w o uld result frump the unrestrained ate of salt, it is highly expedient list the earliest practical opportunity should be taken of grafivally luirefing the duties nu that article."—(Hear.) Mr. I)aVENPOIT. on rising to second this mo. tins., expresowd his full concurrence in all the senti ments winch had fallen from his Hoe. and Learned Friend. The question was. he thonglit, now r e. duced to a very narrow compass. The different Reports whirls had been mole came al die to one conclusion, and that was the impolicy and inexpe diency of the existesig salt duties. Of all had taxes devised by the folly and ingenuity of man. these were, he thought, the worst.—(Hear.)—They h o d arisen in a harrow and mistaken policy. and were at tonsure with the principles laid down by the ablest writers ou political economy. They fell hard upon the poor, were ruinous to trade. and ut terly discouraging to the fisheries, which were thereby prevented from attai gg ioo g that station they were so well calculated to hold. All theorists had maintained the impoliey of taxing • raw material. Thy effect of this particular tax was, that foreigners became enriched, while hundreds of thousands of the poorer classes, and of the hardy twansett. with which this country at the peace abounded, remain ed useless and unemployed in this empire. For this very tax. the growth of the fi.heries of Great Britain was impaired, and the full establishment of a great belt of fi•heries around our islands pre. vented ; besides this, the effect on the morals of the people was terrible, front the iiiitucement to pilfer sod evade where they f I a tax of 3.000 per cent. thrown on au article of absolute consunip. (ton.— (Hrer.) I Mr. WALLACE saidb that however unpopular Isis i opinion may be, he was yet in the couscientious dm. charge of his ditty compelled to take spikes differ. nut view of this subject from that taken by the two HonovrableGesstlemen who had preceded hint. From what they had stated, it might seem that the two Committees alluded to hail given ma tosammioni assent to their Report ; this was no such thing. for he had himself. though without dividing the Com. moire. asserted and maintained. that no practical relief would follow the adoption of ibe ipso, so expressed. The Cossets of the country, which tire Hun. and Learned Gentleman wished to see on so staple a footing. could not afford sash a reduc. tom of revelator as was Cliftlelided furs Wh) . 'kg.' diil it become the prneliee In hold up ?ilia taN public reprohatims, or wanste likely that the l ie would continue to hear it in better hoinratr aher they heard that a resolution was pla,••••1 r l ry tier J.iurnals of the flouse of Cammoset. .ter tat one y Its being unjust and ()Narrow.. ? of all the meal„, proposed to reduce the alleged ill effect 1.1 1/.q. , tat, he thought the one propoiwil was th e o;• lineable, for by is gradual alrolition they stri:l4l ht effectually injorisig the tfol/Plllll., while the tole r ,i,it existence of the then admitted evil would keel. olive irritation arid constant complaints, if i t ;, alteration of the kind Isiotral at must took, pl cr , i t should be done toesspletely at the moment, gal su m I rotracted. As to the equity or the tax, all 14 should say was, that if a revenue is to be rased ea as. art or consumption, the tAorr equal and p sa lm that consumption was, the titter 'object it L-cN,ur her taxation. The I lops. Alember who had la.t spnksii al. laded to the opiiims of tlworetical writers on solijects of t.:Htion ; yet it was singular that Stittr.onpui fns such a length of time hare continued th;• ruler tax, not alone in this country, hut at nor or another in every State in Europe. in I. rail. r, indeed, it had been levied in a 1111111UPf Ncncillt u; 1 . j sin, for Ilse privilege(' orders were (limp. from 0, mid the lower cl were the ' , offerers, and ti revenue accruing (tom it was collected, not as in England, by the actual eonsumpioni of the artie:.„ but by a previous estimate of shat might Ise consumption. The tax existed in this conniry a period shortly after 'he Ilievolotion—it was 'IA. se-fluently repealed, loaf reeiroacird within too!ites other this repeal. The teal fact was, that il.e Iwups of this tty for years ',Wined the its s Moira the slightest murmur or 1.11•Cullfrlil, Ittir roil us. arise mail an flan. II (toilet 1111 w nu flitorr hirer Sir John liarsiaid!„ owiiig, lie um:I L :slot!, to solar Iwr•oual (Nth cii•r it ih e h ot,. II oo of the piddle to the topic. When the Ilan. Baronet was a:.ked how he remained so to •ileht on is sioliject which struck him es befog rit vital impurtatice, his answer, and it wmu idttltr curious one, was, that the subject never 'trout, him. his timid tieing probably (adopted route other smatter. There was no Petition, 1111 rim,. • plaint made by the people. who were an ieleit fit tollopting Petitions on other OCC4ll.loll6—it 1141 therefore, lie thought, quite clear. they dal not feel the grievance in the milliner it was stand in that House. otlwretise they would here lung since expreseed it 11watt:elves it, the manner they complained on other occasions. Ile knew bets was great temptation to evasion. Lot so there was on other excisable articles, and more so for ins stance in teas, lace. and silk, for in salt it requited u good deal in bulk to be concealed or carried t.',Y to make the evasion worth trial. But lie tuisil sheer that the attempts at evasion were equally tiled when the duty was low. They were :14 numerous in 1797, a hen the duty ass only as. t bushel. At that period duties were paid oii bushels, and the prier was 81. per ton. In Its its, • when the prig e was 301. per sou, duty was paid an 46,656 bushels. The greatest exaggeration pit veiled on this questtoti, and though the regulations end restrict:oos, to be effective, meat be p o ets", yet it, no one year did the number of protwentiotis for penalties exceed eleven. so that lie iniegnied rigour was exercised bey mill the actual itecessor of the case. The House should therefore ;muse braise they removed a sum fit revessue amnia ist leg. to mg 1011 thou 1,500.0001. annuslly. He kurw the sestets must have defects. lint he thought it also had as ntlestitugra; it was a tax falling with an • ven upon the consumer; it was also easly culletted, the expense not exceeding ion and a half per refit. The duty also made so gradual an addition to the price, and was only payable at the time of con sumption. that it was lofAilele to distitiguish what was paid for the article. and what for the Excise. Of this very duty Doctor Adam Snobs said it m gin be carried to almost any letigils without bccoutiog teetotally oppressive. This tax did not take from the pocket of the more than 1.55. in a year, and this was 4114 paid in larger proportions than about a 50th pint each week. lie denied that the effect of the repeal would be a reduction of the price of fish, or an tit - crease of the 401411111 y in the market. The markets were at present generally glutted, and the price so low as to be within the reach of the poorest claeres, and yet even at a farthing to the pound, good mars ketable cod could not, on a late occasion, find 101 l sale at Billingsgate. All tit the Ira. lit %hick afield arise to agoiculture from the repeal, lie thought that greedy overrated—for instance, the quaidity of salt itecesaary to be mixed in the food of a pie, would not cost the Cottager more than 4s. in addi tion to the 3/. which an. the general averag. ex. ;sense of fending the animal. The Right I Ism. Gettileenso thesicuinutented upsio the ileitatilrellies: which had of late yeses taken palace nn the "cootiesv of tlw pour, through the means of SaYliag 8111,10 and other provident itistitti; otos. Ile alas , bloode.t. to the few articles' into which gilt e ntered as :it Hi. gradient 111 a Millefal way, 1114 could be attel-I,it lit a repeal of the duties. For istatance—it entered iota the colour of patent yellow—now superior law duty was repealed, did they book the effai would be to lower the price of coaches, in tin 44.011,11 mi of which so much of this colour was used lii tie.l importance of umintaitinig the tisleerirs lie towel! concurred ; and he was prepared to say that sow: alterations might be intioduced, to make the re. gulatiooss affecting the persons employed l o t h eta more Dimple and easy than I hose now in (-sot rime. But notwithstanding the alleged existing tuipediments, the fisheries of the empise hind beet, progressively i n creasing of late years, to• strati of being constantly on the decline, us bad hero +warner:. From the Peri. 1804 is 14 0 9, "- • number of tons cured was 78,099 ; front the 'ea" 11409 to 1813. 110.134 touts; how 1814 to late, 136,210 tosis. The Right Honourable arlit-r• man then admitted, that molly salutary trod"- bons may be made for the benefit of the fisheries' which, without trrocliiiiit upon the revestue, *mild yet be of advantage to the person,' employed. Th - .• objection derived front tlw immorality of the practice of evading the salt laws did not seem to him to be well founded. The fact was well tooter stood. that smuggling. in generale war not Cooc iltrell us a deviation I the oriel path of in"' " - lily by those who were must engaged in it. It generally considered as a twitally to be avoided ea , ' lbw tllllll as All offence cum iii i i led ; 111141 It w.is known that flitter pelts oi the country where siiitikt• el% moat lueviultd writ the 'must moral, such us .141.......