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fawn . of this swill-calusunial.a Act was, that it might vi.l he rem , Ind without cousiticrim: what measure should lie Aitrodured it; its stititl, mid u hat superior tennis• applied 1 , .. 311 evil the wouhi atill exult ; and rho' the noose wo uld Mien with caut.un to the sentimenta of persons, %lin, he it'd , 4 33 Ming enraged in trade, might have been a ggitiecd its operation. Alit. WAlTtlitAll said, that the non. Menthe,- bad inialim istund him when he represented him as saying that the As' gave faciliti.s to ei. fit. He had sea no such thing, hut it begot a hahit of carelessness ill those tell , obtain.• , ( ro e and destroyed the morality of trade. It aas easy tOr li,micottn utiscipminteit with such things to speak of the clarity of re - adore; but he could dietary that, having at tended at thousands acmes, he never dud observed a dispo sition in the crtiliiiir to oppress the Ili b u rr; though he had aid, he ails.-tea, of such cams. Oil a former night a G. nilenian had ouid that people in trade gave credit too en.ily aim carelessly; but it was impossible, he contended, foi tender■ to carry ea their business on ally tither pi inesple. He did state before, that between right and nine millions hail hetet lost to creditors sip to March, 1817- 1. al, as not nor farthing in the pound was lecureyed out of it. lie mktit, then, what advaumge did the trading soild dci Iv- frutu the Act? %Vas it worth a man's while to leave hi , himp, and go to Westininater to oppose the iiii.charge of $ debtor, whet, he did not g• t a farthing in the pallid? He Night to apologise to the House for dwelling so long on a Subject which be well Imes was ill tabulated to (afire the attention of Gentlemen not per:mostly interested. Let them keit to the City of London --(lure-foutMs of the greatest ltorrelassys there had once been clerks; and if they had cot seen the eitesidate of sego's mg ■ character f•r integrity as welt as capacity, they would never have risen to the station thee steer gird He besought thesis Ili• II to comoier it might he the consequence of cuillinuing a law which wrist to eclat the mors!i4 of hailers. But the law al. not only ricstrue. live of into nay, hot took away all the confidence of friend. ship; fur in missy an instance a prr.ou who had, up to a certain lirre.f life, maintained a fair reputation, availed himself of his familiarity with a trader to procure his pro petty, and larval paid for it. lie did not think it ineuinheitt on those 11161C1/1340111N1 the Act to bring forward a measure ill its place. He held tto office, and derived no emoluments from the public, and had no measure to purpose ill lieu of the Insolvent Debtors Act. It was enough for him to point out It. .rats. Alr.tlonnota said, that though he could not compete with the Him. Member in the knowledge of matters of trade, tie fiord be should Is• allowed to say a feu words in favour of the d. hair—the unfortunate deldur. The Gentleman who spoke against the Act had imputed all the Vim, to the debtor, but was IitINC of it to hr laid on the creditor ?—. (year.)—'lli r Worthy Alderman insisted on the fact of nine er feu millions of pioperty having been nearly lost—lint he urv,r adverted to what would have taken place had the Act n. err ; iii his opinion precisely the same thilic would liaprErd ni ILat raw, such that it was erroueous ma mmal/ to describe this as au effect of the I4Wf. He had also said il.ai the shock given to credit wound destroy the mu te of trod,. Now his •iew of the matter was thirdly the contrary; li•• thought that that occurrence tendril In render trails mi r. moral, and that it world be advanced to the highest pith ni..ah►y if c►edil were destroyed altogether, and that all payments line made is ready tweiney.s—r Hear ) It was a wrung attempt of the Members of London and hi endeavour to exude a fecllng against the Art. The l'eliliou was then rear:, laid on the table, and ordered to he petard. Alters/tau WAITRMAS then ruse, to make the motion of whirls he bail okcit—but, on the suggestiou of the becattelt, it was puatp NEW WRITS N. w N rigs wer► nrie;d for the Borough of Mechingly, , in 11. r en. n , .d G •rrunytwn r Esq. eibu bas, accisgeil tha cifice .4 ILrCI , Isl., 111 , ,ndred. ; tin Rye, ibe re,,,nt of tbe II ' I Hon. C Arhutbunt. ob.. Ina,l ell etilla for . mains; nIII. rur Cll.llll I, IH ILr I III)01 Richard Pen n .11,r., rho has screwed ibe office of Esebeitue of Nuusit r. _ ARMY IN INDIA, ace Mr. CANNive por.spuctd bpi motion of Thanks to the OfFr.'s. N.•u•r..ureu,..ionrd Offic , m, tud Privatrs, of the Arm) in U. I N sill Tn , ,day tr'smighi. 1:•t.l Kt% ossomouou petsrot , l tition in fivnisr of the Ctstho... float (ar such .4 we could learn, there hest g rabi, ionise at the time in the Huns) the 80. sough of ktotelos Nu•'ee —h. J, and Lid or the table. CH ESTER E LEMON. Mr. Lair Novo' op the realise d list of Member. appuint al so a. rye i.n lke City of Chester Eleetiou Petitions, which vu read, a. follows : Lori Thomas Cecil G. Ellis it J. H Hilton 1 P. Symonds Flint li.iWrrd fetch Sir C. Hulse south S.r Ulysses Burgh hi bikini/ere look ilie oath at the table, as called. ORDERS DISCHARGED. Hen. 'l 4 , Knox Richard Vtlisrtun Arthur Chichester John Allen R, Clive Win. Ralph Cartwright J. Cskris( t. The Speasew informed the Hume' that recognisance, Lad nut been ent. yeti ' pill hll3 at to the Acts 20 aid 33 Geo. 111 by cerium Voters, who had, un the 4th of Fe brusiy. isetrituued against the Electiou for the Burouth ot Great Goolsby, and which Petition was bard fur consi deration an Tuesday, the 23d at March. Tin Order was then read mid discharged. Tile Orders relative to the following Petitions' were thew also ►ead mid discharged, fur the same rra.1411.1 : Afloat. r Petition from Great Grimsby, by Simnel Goose man and others, presented the 4th Februaty. A Petition Rum Bassiney Borough, by the IL:v. %I%llism Pitt and othera..ofJohn Harty and Jamts Smith, complaining of the t lettiou of Rye Town and Port—of IYtlhatn Wailtin,uu and .lobo Firth, cumplainiu: of the Eleetiuu fur Kiugatuu-upuu- Hull. CONVICTS. On the motion of Mr. BEM winT, Accuunts of the smasher of Convicts sent oat to Botany Bay, wish the expense of transporting them, were ordered to he laid before the CHIMNEY SWEEPERS _ ...... The Report of the Committee uu the Chimney Sweepers Regulatiou Bull ws. brought up amid speed to ; and ;dirt soil., ronseeration beiwtro Mr. &)x . and Mr. Kam urn, the Bill was bxed for the third reading ou Monday taxi. GRAND JURY PRESENTMENTS CIRELAND). Mr. DAsesum lobe, pursuant to nonce, to move for the uppointinent of a C ~, mittee to consider the ctit cts of the huh Grand Jury Act of lass Session, and to report their observations thereon to the BMW ; and as he underbtuoi the% no opposition was to be offered to his motion, he should trouble the House, lie bard, with but few observations. He should go into the Cornorsittee with every dispo. to preserve the principle of the Act, and was oily &biII,LIS of umeliding its details us much us .light be claire. lie wished the power of Grand :ones, with respect to appointing eight constables for each barony were altered, that number being too large for bottle, and insufficient for others. Sir J. NEWPORT said, that one of the most glar. nig defects of the Grand Jury system was, the in equality of the surveys, and thought that if the in qihry did nut comprehend that topic, it would be tier H. PANNELL would not give any opposition in the appointment of the Committee. lifter the usplineeitson the Hon. Member had made of his oh and that he was desirous of preserving the es armed' principle of the last Art. Of the value of that piiteciple, little doubt could exist. Few could question the utility of a rigorous investigation of all appletations to a Grated Jury for grants of mousy, 111, the examination of them by the Ajagistrates rt Quarter Session., where the parties were nu oath. Tle was willing , hOWZVer, to join in aav et. tort for worming; the minor provisions, as the prin ciple was to lie adhered to. Sir G. Iln.t. beg led leave to say, that if he were spina Weil Oil the Uomtuittre , hr sh..uld wit be bound by the ride laid ihitvii by the 11011. gunnel riir 11. Parnell) fur its ihrectitm. To any provi. SIMI for exietidilig the time, and rendetiog more pub!ic the notice of applications to the Grand Jury for twine) , to carry on public works. he would not idfer the slightest opposition ; but MP the inquiry contemplated could out but last till a late period or the Session, will as the mail coach roads and ...Odic works in Ireland were going to decay. white the House was engaged in devising the best mean• to keep thein in repair, lie should take that opportn. tiny to give notice that he would, onloisday next, move for leave to bring in a short Bill to citable Grand Juries, at the next Assizes, to make pro. visions for the niminuirring public works already in existence. The Iluu. Harimet WAS a great mien. qtr for the early arrival of the mails in Ireland, and he had been on a Committee which recom- Mended the expenditure of two Or three bombed thousand pounds on the roads in Wales; but what was the state of the ro id. in Ireland ? The pre sent was the third Session the I louse were employed in making laws foe their re v Ammo. The Act of last Session wee fO/111111 in have been impracti cable in a great pant ni the country, and not only the roads, hat tither public works were falling into rain and destruction, and the bu siness of the courstry not only impeded,• lost at a stand. He should go into the Committee with every desire to forward its objects, but on the part of the landed and commercial interests of Is-timid, he entreated the House, to receive favourably the motion be intended to make on Nlanday. Mr. BECHER trusted he should he allowed, as a representative of that country which the motion he foe the House particularly concerned, to off e r a few remarks. The general object of the Act of la•t Session appeared to lie good ; defects in it, how ver. there certainly were, hut not a soca' magintutle as to be weighed agenst the advantage% it way calculated to product.—(lfene, bear.) — They were merely impediments to the execution of the measure. It hail not been sufficiently tried yet ; and the approaching Assizes would he a good opportunity for idisersiog how it operated. The viol of the Act, to cause a strict and public Piers. ligation of the porpu.es to which the public money was to be applied, was most laudable—(l /ear) — and tended materially to destroy the scandalous practice of jobbing which had been hut too preva lent. Sir JOUR STEWART made some observations nn the mot' ; hut they were inaudible in tile gallery. Mr. V. FITZGERALD said, that before the Hot,. Baiimet (Sir G. Hill) had described the rouse queixes of the Act to be the ruin and destruction of all public work• in Ireland, lie should have known that it had never !wen tried. Fle was happy Ina every Gentlemen who had taken a part in the dis. cussion had expressed himself favourable to the principle of his Act, and advised inquiry only to remove some objectionable details, and there fore lie was bound to give his support to the inn. lion, as it went 10 give full effect to his owl, views. But to prevent any impression going abroad of tie impracticability of the measure, he thought it right to state, that he had received three or four letters from individuals of the highest respectability iii Ireland, and with the best means of judgitig of its nature and operation, all expressing their approh tion of it, and exhorting him not to give it up. Tile writer of one of these was a Noble Lord, who had felt it his duty to act as Chairman at the Sessimis in the County. Mr. Buxton, of the County of Meath, 7106 the wilier of another. It hail long beet, a complaint against the Magis tracy of Ireland, that they were viol selected front the higher orders of society in that country. The domestic discords—the etraesice of great landed pro.- pm-tors—alai other circumstances, rendered it ne cessary to appoint Magistrates in Irelaud, who, in better time•, would not have been appointed to till that high and important office. This was deeply to he iegretted—but it was the fact, he stated, diet could out be denied. lie did not speak from the observation of others—he spoke from what passed under his own eyes. lie knew that turn were intro duced into the Commis•ion oldie Peace, who ought slot to hold it. This utifitnesa had lung been ruin. 'flawed of—it was long considered as o ne of the grievances of the country—and as one step to put it down, and as one step to the restoration of the re= speetafohty or the Magistracy, he was Noxious to assert the principle of property in the Bill. and if that principle could not be universally enforced, it was at leust desirable to hold out fresh inducements of activity It, the Magistrate., to induce than to attend at the Quarter Sessious—et, inducement which liappi;y was not necessary in England, where Magistrates attend on the constant edininiatration of pistil e. The [louse, he was satisfied, would du justice ti, his motive* in the attempt lie made—vet taiiil) with the best intentions—to correct one of the greatest evils complained of in Ireland—one of the uio•t crying rvtls, namely, the uppointmetit of sulior thirde persons to the Magisterial Chair. As to the observations made by his lion. Friend (Mr. D as te. son), he (Mr. Ftte4eraild) would only say, that cirs. cuasstances were counected with property in Lon donderry which gave a peculiar character to its teoure, however wealthy and respectable the pro. prietors might be, and this circumstance inight, in some degree, have operated against the Bill. The provisions of the law might not have had in that counts , the same scope that it had in others, and the benefits of the law might not be ao clearly tin derstood ; but surely it was not because Lot. derry and Maio complained of the law, at the meta when many other counties approved of , that the House, without a fair trial, would enter• lain the idea of its repeal. The House, he trot.' would preserve the principle of the law—ti would give it fair play—they would not anticn objections to a measure which was intended to reel abuses. If on a fair trial the !louse, from [MI, that a measure ichich deslrn;et many abuses, created some hiciiiiveMence. itevri• was is great referernitlon without jo s t le Iva t iuu s. All hr for was, - Mat Ilia principle of the law • should tie maintained. WlEtterer ameedinerits should be :41z :t ested that were reasounble nod oe cessery, he would Most williegly a do pt, but lie en treated the House to 'reuse before they disturbed a law tout W. 14 efljoritli with the best view, to promote the - public iiiters•st:: and that was calculeted to cor rect or to remove some of the worst public Arises. Mr. A seatcairsioY said, that iii what lie intend ed to otter he certemly did Wit 11OVA!, to oppose ilie principle contelitird for by the - Bight Hon. Cleutle• utu:: ; but if sltifects were found in the Hill, lie thought the measure slroutd be examined. No out was more sincerely determined than he wile to pie terve the principle of the Bill, convinced as he was that it was deserving of support ; but it objections existed, they should be examined into and remov ed. Hr w o uld suggest Brit it ought be added to the inotiogi of the Right lima. Baronet, " Thai the Committee do coosider the Bill with reference to the more effecinal execution of the aamr." would beg Luse to make another observation be fore lie sat down—it was this, that if the Right Hon: Baronet introduced any measuie to get rid of the principle of the Bill he (Mr. Abercrienby) would fuel it his duty to give it the most isiseqiiivocel, the most constant, and det ided opposittoo.—(Hear.) Sir (;eoitor, Hut. explained. Lord JOCELYN said lie was anxious to go into C ' , .'M 'tee. 11 , slid not oppose the principle of Bi- 1;111 ; lie only wished In get rid of its defects. 11. m. would slot wish) to see any public works present rd for before a strict inveatigetion was had ono the absolute necessity of tuck works; he woold not wish to see a shilling of the public money paid sway without the strictest acrutiny. H • could not but differ in many itist:iices from ibis views taken by his Hon. Friend. Ile (Mr. Fitzgerald) had stated that he had received slimly let; ens fi om Ire hut d, etatitig the great public benefits that resulted from the B 11. He (Lord Jocelyn) iambi absolve the House, that lie too had received letters from that consitry, used certainly from us respectable person* as those who corresponded with his Ihrii. Friend, aid these letters stated the direct contrary. It ap peared to him that the people of Ireland had pouch reason to complain of the measure. Whet woe their situation since the Bill 'rid passed into a law ? When that Bill was missing through the !loose, their hopes were raised tux greet rxtriit—they heard of the minty advantages it would give to the country ; hut he was sorry to say that these hopes were lolasted, and that instead of drrivilig saliraotages from de Bill, I they found it a lame sod itieffi.aent tneastsie. It was intoduced into the House ovowe#lly fur Me pip pote of reinedyitug the deficiencies of the Gracid Jury Laws -it was iiitelided to plinfy the u.lininia stiation of thews laws it au, tlaral up as a ores. sure of great publiii utility, of such vast import mice, that the Speaker at the Bar of the !louse of Lords euhigizeil it ;5 measure highly b ene ficial to the cou n try. Now he winds! ask, what were the advantages d u st were fel; from tihf operation of the law—how did it wadi wide the country ? The first proceeding of the sucei.eiling Parka mstit sing a lion fur its so:pension . . He (Lord Jocetyn) would say, notwithstanding the malty severe and unmerited observations that had beers made, that the old system had been one under which the country had drrived many end great advantages. On a former occasion, lir (Lord Jocelyn) had stated the Bill wool', be found iu adequate—that it was so, was deer:). established by the forcible mid temperate Petitioos from Lon. douderry and Mayo, aigne:i as they were by a great many most respectable Gentlemen of those cools ties ; and he would um hesitate to tosty, notwith standing the aspersions that Ismre thrown upon them, that, taking the Magistrates iii Ireland a. a general body, there were nut to be found men who enter tinned more honest mid conscientious opinions. It rhould nut be forgotten, that the Petition% from these men proceeded from uo selfish or interested views— diet they were men who watched over the %dime and interests of the country. The flute. Gentlentais concluded by saying that be was hostile to every abort connected with the Grand Jury Laws; that lie would wish to see the public money accounted for to the hoot shilling. Ile hoped that when the Bill sl ld be referred to the Committee, such : Iteratio n s would he made as would tender ii, if I tint perfect, to least practicable. Sir Join N'EVPOitt said, ilea he did not find that there was ally oprositiou from any quarter to the appointment of a Committer. In that Colo suture lie hoped to see the principle of the. Bill strictly preserved, fur lie would slot hesitate to ex press his decided conviction, that if the principle of the law were abandoned, it would work irreparable injury to Irelaisd. He had heard the evident which this Bill hail subverted praised in the House; but he dill 110 t hesitate to sey, that that system was pregnant aids muck mischief, and that it operated to the injury of Ireland. Ile thought it ass . rat h er hard, before the measure had a fair total, to sug gest difficulties that had not occurred, mod to anti cipate effects that had not followed it. It had, in deed, been stated, Met some difficulties had toe carred in some comities. fa answer he could as. serf, Ilea in iniuty other counties no (I.lsculties whatever ley iu the way of the Bill, stud it 'operated beneficially for the public interests. The Home should bear iu mind, that the Bill was intro slimed on nu oidivary gra tttttt Is ; it had been recoruniended by the necessity of the ease ; the plass was submitted to the consideretion of r COM. ',titter of the House, end lie *mild say, that ho Committee who had e'er sat upon a public guess. • tern, and lliu'ul,ru tic disitiuctly 'fated, that some stepsshould br, adopted to remove them. He con ceived that the Miloi,ter iris boom, to gee his opinion, lo support the prepeot law, *ace 'lolled as it wss by the !show% of a Committee— c.olled for as it hied been by the corcutortooriers of the country—sod IntrotisaCo.d 10 at Was by persons tonoirOteil with the. Aolministr:ltion. He would deplore tlor recurrence to the old "lysteut art u greet public guid'o , 11111 r —it would give encourage went to those who had profited by it, and it would blast those hope% that elitertuitstri of the benefits to be derived limn hue evistong Mr. DsvriuN W4lllll, 'holt this 0111191-1:1 ern' dnoda would wider go a fall iiii:esiigatioir w the Cur:init. tee: Ile had no portislity to the old hystrai—but where matrodnients wire tieceskary, no opposition, he presumed, would hr made to thew. The motion was then put and carried, that ri Committee should hr apponited to consider r.f the effects of the Grand Jury Act *of last titli)lo[l, With reference to the execution of the 4411111 P. Jr.A V. EtTZecits now as the minion Will decided, • lie hoped the llonae would alluw him to make a few observatiolis; the !louse would do lints the jisstire to say„ that sin exprtsiuss of his was intended, or did in tact treCCI 1111011 the Isish Gentry, but it was true that objections were inside to thelrASUre by many Centlemess is merely becisose they were ignorant of it ; it was, he thought, too fevrre that the law rlassula be opposed merely because it was not understood, and it was not understood Isecatise it was not read. As to the state of the pui-lic roads, upon which so much had been said, lie bad the autlicnity of the Postmaster-General in Ir•lisisd (Lord Ross), for eiving a contrary account of them. It was, lie thought, a gloss inconsistency iii thole who supported the old system, that they acknow ledged the principles of the new law ; they ac knowledged that it 'eel tight that no work should he presented that was not found to be necessary—that nu money slieuld he paid away that bad nut been strictly accounted fur—and though they paiorgyrized the old later. under which, it is sand, Ireland had flourished, yet not one of these features could be found iu that law—no fea tures but those of deformity—no principles but those of oppression—tau operation but that of pub lic mischief And 'whin: distress could he found in the system %sisals the country had condemned, and wiiich they wish. d again to resort to. After \Jr. F IizGERALD concluded, the names of the Committee were then read at the table. Mr. Dom:slice BRoLVNE moved that the Peti tion from the County of Mayo, against the Grand Jury Law, might be ratite(' to the Agreed to. Sir HENRY PARNELL moved that a Petition he had presented, might be referred to the considera titan of the 114111 e Committee.—Agreed to. Men at ite other silk to st y that they wc,;•t , ho; in pnase....adt of An 111 e facts that wield enthiace (sitar oulau,irragis....l—• but be wank' he happy to answer early question, a , he c.a. ',tiered it his duty toper every iieformatiimiti his power His object, lie 11 , 1111, was 11/ bring is 41 $lll 11l egrylf into exec's' tun the engagements which the French bad entered auto wills British stilleete. la die year 1815, the French Cl{llVerll. melte undertook to isoleusatfk British sallajeras (as well as others) as la cretin' elawns which they had Iry tint Governs meet; add it was oil Out 'Kristina agreed that a aunt of seventy millions of byres alistuld lw pat it'll" OK halals of .Cummissioners appointed foot that purpose, last le fond towards the diarleu.gc of those colaims. Fru* Mat pet tod .up to April, itflti, it appears ;hat a bed, of Geo, fifty to 'cagy willoota of lon,* list been ptled eat') by the Continis.tiniers to beiitilaituo of the darieiit tallilot that had beta made. I:ma i m h.; chimes leaf Lean oval, , emanating to Iw-tweets ilo, ty and fusty milltinis of hate , and these ekI'IRII liege l'l4Slttl•tled. Ii WAS NUltd, 111.1i•I , r dischisrge Ottawa claims avail,' Palm :he French Gala:4l,lmin a considerable lime, perhapa nut less thau seacii years. T...: British Garesmnent, acting upon the same principles wile the other Powers of Eurupr, tilt that it wauld I* tor the general iittereats of all polies to sister into a negotiation with the French Guyer unient, and In acerept of a round i 0411., to be ascertained from the best and fsite:et estimate that could be made, in lien of the Claiffia of "Le d,0.-rent Cr.' throe. This was its all halals COll , l le,rel tlw mast beast. heist, awl much mare preferable It' the keeping an open "te• count with the Freirch Government, which arch! lead ti. differences and inibowlerstandings that at we, a . sir I to OWitill. The House, he sail, could net bare a clear or ullfliplt 4.. proof of lila liberal split whirls guided the Posers of Elsner' in ill their 11.1414/011, that a siec:tctation of 11114 mature, cuticeived upon this principle, cot. :.1 he Bronchi to a conclusion an full and so fum picot., wit bunt one Oti.il'el 1- . .1 lieincr made, or uir.: complaint helot heats' et: Irer fu OM Ilir respective Goveutruettis concerns-a, or fr italiss titst4l,l, whuse claims constituted the subject of that neg. riot ono It was, however, fair lo state that many drill ',aka lay in the way to a final arrangement--Mlienlti. a, aloha 0, so very great, that if it had nal been for the imerferesico of a distsieguightal character, to whom the couetry is so J teply indebted —he meant the Duke of Welanaitat—tt would have been difficult to say when the agree oleo! woo I:I have been concluded He took this complicated transaction into his bandit, and acted not merely on behalf Mille Pi dish creditors, but the creditors of the de/fervid other Si- -s. The Demob GOVI•1/1111.311 had tau Treaties on tilts ,-;:hj , r with France—Use fir•l on the prate of Arfllett`t ; tae it C." li When, with Use other Powers, we entered 1.00 lire Coo. ventiou in July, 1414. By the first Conseati .41 it wt., aa;recil that three niilliosts viol a half of name shun ii be granted by the Frisch Government, which wuul.l I a equal to a capital of seven millions. Between tit v and sixty mllliuns of liens had been paid away ; air: 4 was agreed that n large sumo should he named, in oto;e: to close all accounts lactweru the French Guverunte •t and their different creditors. Sia stollen, ate, liug was ' -ti mated as the satiafaetion of the Britt- k rreiiih.e.. in this proceeding it was stretasary 111 Ilia some r isk, me re or less, Lut wider all the eacunistances, it was by lbw la r wisest course to pursue—by far the moat imliefactury to t a creditor., and the mast desirable in every point of view to the different Gortrumeals. 'IW adjust those claims WO., he slid, the object of tlw present Bull. Many quest Mom brad arisen during the seithanetit of the Camay:lima, of c 'us . - derable importance. Thus, it was to Ise derided, iv i.ettier sub sidised hoops were to he pr..v.ilcd fur like min. prissinei is of war. The acconsit of the permits, thus empioved was so extremely cumplicatt it, that it could nut be considerel a fair and just our. The consequence was, that aa • ms on this bead were given up. That was uut a "taker tic , of ally eel y solvent claim pi eferred by the Guys:alumni of the. i , eint..., oti that of France. He mow webbed to turn else alit 111.., of the House, but still more the attentiuti of the cati•ttr•., to a particular part of thuse claims. In sluing iii, Ist' 4 nut mean to cast any eensaire on the rhea of eiliterrrni to whom he was alepitt to allude. Bat, as they ail knew that great spec illations were now :.fins', and iiehe 'Waal., fur the put pose of making a Kew,. t profit, ss, te. perhaps vesting their motley in furriga fib J., it 14111.31.! GOVerilloPlll t:ndinctly to aisle, 631 the CO1111I• :ill Ili . . e!1/.. ir in this instance, tit those whose property Ind L. en s.qiic-- trated ill the Freuch feuds, was 1101 r 10641.1 10 .'l"1. .10 I.', . r recognige a general Itrisac,ple of grantitar rel., 111 /.1111:. lar caws. Government vit.hed to discourage any mom,. which might have been entertained, that, became City had taken up this particular case, (bat, therefare. they »lac to interfere upon all similar occasions.--a(llx-tr, keur.j— They had no such Oltenia /a; and they wunlil not nal: she peace and tranquillity tit the Slate by email tic their it— fluence on such a subject ill foittre.—: 1 rear, hear )-111k..5, who vested their mom y its fureigu funds must lurk foe ea curdy in the credit and lamest) , of those States oath a lams they had dealiugs.--(feer)—The power of ibis c .uut, v would not be applied to procure them retinas-110 y inhst rely nil Ilse probity of those whom deny hosted in the lit.: iustauce.--illeur, hcar.)—The claim in this iustiacee oats peculiar; its arose ant of the 'Fumy of 176 d. I:y iltot Treaty, those who purchased ill the French finials wive It. la.! allowed a autficient time to sell out, after war was dechor,t. The conduct of the French rulers, in 1793, was us de .leasance ut this Treaty, and the property of British atihjeios was sequestrated. Guretninent, at the Peace ut Amiens, thought it necessary to interpose ig their behalf—and the faumlation of the present claims, 'Heel, arose in 181r4, era,, at kisossiedgeil. Stipultitiuno were about in Le entered into for a restitulem of raw property, when war sznin broke mit. The interest of the yolks rentanted in alit, 111110e11.01 Wilt: tall the Treaty of I',,a itt, in 11514, and it was then deem' it 111 . - ccasaari to maim an effort for the settlement 'tithe Mistress, at the same time that care was taken nut to east: the > ti, ccss of the measure lay offerina II proposition of 100 Crt il: :as extent. Tlw Trealy of 1814 laid nut made much pragit.••, when the return of Bonaparte led to a ieurwal of Ilse aka., seal Bre steguciation aas put in end 10. Its lairs, it acts Lie (Lord Castlerrag We) with, alma tli P:111., to price iLia transaction tin such clear and iota Itigitile g,uuuda, that nu doubt could be entertaitied of his propti.itmo being ear iitti into execution. From the )rar 1815, to Ala 11, 1518, such progress was made, as reudered the ultimate sue. eras of his negheititieu it:most erriaiu ; hut, ilwieah of having Commissiunera and au arbiter, for he p•rposa of adjudicating the claims of the different pirtee., :la was Originally rearmed, a specific sum was given to ili a count. y, and Cuomms.auers were to be appoi n I ed AO .list,.. Gate it as circumstances might wartatit. "Eliest ...at. . h e ou:y topics be thosight it necessary to touch upmesseatid La abuold now move— " That leave be given to bring in a Bill, to nahle the Commissioners appointed by hi* Majest:•, to app -I our. to persons having claini% on France, i.um ieeeiviii by British Gosernment, (cum Ffaucc, mulct. the Couvutiouil the 2blh of April, 1818." Mr. Tittßiscir said he not motion, at the same time that he slid lint pledge 1111640 t any precise line vii cmichiet iu future. With iespec I to Commissioners appointed, he bad the pleasure of know , itz them, and no men had ever conducted thentatlves wnh ra.- , piobity ur mtept.ily than they hint door, wheel emp.os..l un a former occasion. He considrriil it was vin fori II.: fur the Bs itivh creditor that he hiss to submit Its skimoor: to of counts), Matt ml i.f with Fri or,h Cinumoialutierv, who, from the l'f . l y 111 IRISH ELCCfIONS. dente that could no longer be disputed, ghoul of opinion that the Bill was impr.►eticable, would then luuk to itr repeal. But when no evidence appeared, they would support the prin. ple of the 131.11—they would not listen to • prop)_ sition to bring the old sytem into openition. all its abuses and all its deformities. It had said that the Bill created borne inch-- Admitting thy fact, what did it amouut to ? J. NEWPORT said, the legal opinions had been taken ur Ireland, on the Act of the 53d of the and that tluaie opniiiiiis went to confirm the opinion 11l that country, that the Act ditl not di rectly apply. The Act allowed the Howe in their discretion, to grant a further time to enter into re cogtrzanceto of 30 days, and that only ouce. He would now move that time should be given to enter into ree,vtizances in the Petition from the County of Co. k, to the Sth of March, instead of the Ath of February. Mr. B. BsTaUltst said, he was not surprised that a unsamwebenvion should take place on the meaning of the Act, because Ireland. certainly was tint mentioned ; and it was only to be taken in the ge,.eral expression of the law. y He would suggest that all the Irish Petitions should be referred to the consideration of a Select Committee, who would triton whether the Petitioners iiad or bad not en tered into their recognixances through error of judgment. Sir JOHN NtAt'Ptitt, hoped that the Committee would examine into the question, and report us speedily as possible, NY the Wove had not the power of giving more time thnu the thirty days pro vided by the Act, and therefore time was likely to operate against the Petitioners. The longer the Committee po,tputied their Iteport, the greater would be the difficulty of the Petitioners, and the shorter would he their time to inert those liculties. The question us to the appointment of the Com mittee wits put and curried, and the uawea of the Committee brought tip. The debate on the Petition of John Boyle, Esq. who pe titioned against the return fur the county of Cork, praying further time to cuter into reciignizances, was adjourned to Tuesday neat. The debate on. similar Petition foto Emanuel Hutchins, Esq. was adjuitrued to the same day. The debate on a third Petition of the like import, was adjourned to thecae'? day. The Orders tot the Petition of Brno , Clements, Esq. anti on the Petition of the lirv. J. tee,ch, who complained of the return fur the County of Leitrim, and who prayed fur liniw to rillet into their recognismeta, were disclia.-aed. The Orders vu the Pt tit ions of Montfort' Lonffieltli .Esol• and of Edward Roche, who plained of the Election for the City of Cook, of the like import, were discharged. The debate on a like Petition from a Freeholder, who Complained of the Militias fur the Borough of Drogheda, was postponed Io Tuesday next. HOAKI) OF oftDsAscr.. Alderman Wimp said, he h.ol J qoestiou to put to Gen. Ilemru cunioeted with the Oiiiiiance Itoarit, which he hoped they had no ohjrctiun to *mower. 'Tine question was, whe ther the Board sold to a priSuli of the name of Samuels, ss Ire was, lie helii red, connected with Mr. Rothschild, a quan lily of gunpowder, to the amount of 60,000/.' He would further ask, who thee it wit• troust,.ruary to make sod' bore contracts privately He a•kt • 1 these questions, because lie south mood that the Itaw.attitot 1111.1 much complained of by those who are concerned itt tiw hosts on Cornwall and other pl.tees, It ruling hi Wpm' 'hem Ito ihe camoirc A TT rtt i nt,t, ....,.....:-. T ., 7 u, ,rw : ., ,=, ~,,, ~ ~.,,, .. r 31r:A WARDsaid, r he ua•uth.w.t..l • • ...inidtio- ! Win bestowed more polo, or more attentiiM, or ... .- • • ' t..e.r ninice, writ do lino, as far as ahoy rottlid, to Ciro the mo- ' were more anxious to come to a fair, practical, and ft 43,11. 4 .1 its a Lich me woriii • .. It o f it, wise decision. The inenpure proposed by Me Bight y Aldieridditid put the questions, ' d i ai r ..1,,,,,,. ihri . would lead iv PM irri solar ilebai.- . hail he nakedly pus th e : ----- -- ----- a -'• It VCIP S therame, 111111 h hei a r IDA • •IsMiliC suns dwelt, be given to Great B. I I lin It) liiiiini,ic d enter- , honourable Baronet was ii temporary Bill, to question, whether those rump eld d with ilde Ordnauce Huard trusted, 1 scvenal the operation of the present Act ;it wits ha n . e t . d o i .s tiow h it ii r :; a tqw.., , , , 4 onrus.. , , to iii amount iu i sion e of ti t za i i .. .:::,..t h ls. G •tn . that thry t s H linuld he r,ferreil to the Jets- te—l hey ( lint difficult tor the Muse to ace "le Itult•liler q uf it to . 1. per N . l . tru l it o t i l l Put would .'"a" hint they of t moped maitre, L i k ' i Iql i l t e i s liMate ' l l Tu l Tm d c i ele " d u Ti si t . ln e l I . " ' ii i . t l i' itteipate l that Snell a me:Wore Would create. Iti the 111 al mei chant, bad bit m I. w""" :%Ir. ..--".."31" an tint- jolt . Many creditors, a hu, from ins Y dsei bad l ' es - tenee,nil e s id tune a foto, 'Ulu they felt that they ~ . o f Mace ll aar claim in The Gezttte, within Ode up, rifled I lid cor- i first place, those who had pluced frith upou had mati, :i gum: Min:ails fur th e pub , de. • I time, were totally eseluthol timid the hciirtil of this wept. rum eve- 1 the security of the law (twi,ely Ulid .11tl!brultely : OlVisioN OF THE QUARTER SESSIONR. tattoo. He moduli thertfuse chat sonde clamor stoned tie iouidi be 1 Igsdr) , would now be obliged to turn back to the Mr . nic"""Ni at."' 01 '811014 that Mild , Incolt" nience telroduced tutu ild'i• Bill, u'ridiiii that, if ally Fl . . Ile, they 1 old whoop vyatetn. He (Sir John Newport) could . Idail i ht ia t i r b 4-k 1 ,, i •1t,:e..i from el, &MIMI'', in which Ihr Quarter should remain, after the present cr ie e'dlitues were pasil, "l l'l. ' ! Do MO I not con t em pl a te arch a measure said:oat alarm, and t a n s i or ~,;:e l ice,. I , a id' at 41 " d 'Y t i t bfl'i lw " , a nd 'be then, uutwithstosiding the &feel in the notice of uglier .11rior• •1111 Villel. ~,trod fur leave to maimaiits, they should be toddled to par ticipate in sti• h e noel - i he was nut a little, borliriped to Pet that the Nliiii.- : kint tit a Sill h h orrors D t(i . I S• •., l_s _101•111iti i.: the ....11•1 _Cr _ .9111013 111 . 541511 1111 denialued utiappropristed.-( Heti'', hear!- H. . II prop). i ters • Ur the Crowu had girt% no opinion whatever, • 1.4111/.. was g•yeu nreurdmely. knew date case of extraordinary hard.idip, where a . e.s y n was s ent over to Paris lu make the slaim, but twain: m. wills the iuure partsculurl us it IllUbt be fresh iu the ' CLAIMS tii.' SRI l'lsH nt , iIJECTS ON FRANCE. so lad be e n i mulls of curvy Members in I tae I - I -guile, that in the ' "rd C•WrI.IIRENGU ...i.l. teat is- -would. too the tosesent employed au tio.kilful agatit, it ass uul daftsuildil in •, Decision, d vainly tiitb.. tto rode bland hof this aubjset to mail thus the claimant, though nut by any mean' of Ins owe, !einem - v. , last rarlinoteut b(..e hail It ttiticly stated the arealwas c ompletely tamed 1.04011, and rollout). eseludisl from Wily 1 exteut of the evils grew under the old - rya. fur hi which wkiel. 11. r msel2f 4P418 "" o " the " hit ' "lilted. to that laaat alder , , as Ls un derstood ll" w""44 con- . m Guile. tile bene fi t at the cOUVvIIIIOU. Its wished HUM, to ass a ' • - . ... it I