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they would not be permitted, with impunity, ter interfere with elections. He should uow ooly town.— • 'that the said Thomas Ferguson Ito, for his said of tener, ensamitted to his Majesty's glad of Newest., and that the Speaker do issue his warrant icienliogly."—Agrosti to Ma. too. EDUCATION ItIF THE POtlt. Mr. nitOUGNANI, in Moving for the committal Of the Bill fur the Eduction of the Poor, expatiated his regret that it had not before Picard disciiseion, %repulse had that been the case. many Inisreptesees-' tatiosis that had gone abroad would Mire been dor 'acted. There wli3 snißeitlinsg so exceedingly deli. dote in a matter relating to public charities, that he would say a word or two, to prove liow'roid of !pre tence the reports oh this patentor point trete. The present *as stated to be it Bill which would inteifere with the management of charitable foods. A in..re grow. misrepresentation ilever'rras set *Boat. It was a Bill, lint to interfere with the atiretikesibil, but with the mismancigelhent of charities—and that by inquiry and report. It was neat stated, that the Bill went to trench on private prunerty. 'h is was as gross a inisrepriventation as the former, he tact was, that persons receiving money for charitable purposes, were, as Much a. ruy OtfiCir of the Go ',remittent, intrusted wifh patilic prOperty, and had a right to account for it. The tattlers of the Bill 'were not greater than those granted to theCnronlis sinners of At...omits in /781, to the Commissioners of Naval loqiiiry in 1803. and of Military fitquiry in IsOi. The Learned Gentleman concluded with moving the Order of the Day for the Ilifitse resolv ing itself unto a Committee Olt the laid Bill. Mr. CANNING did not mean to oppose ,the Mouse going into a Committee- - -but lie hoped it would be understood, that, by leitiog `through this stage, he did not give up his right ..f opposing, at some future period, the duration and constitution of this measure. Lord FuLtsecitsit stated, as a r ound of objec lion to tlii. Bill, that, whilst it opened the road to invitoiptimi generally into the appropration of the funds of institutions of a charitable °muse throughout the kingd.im it made an exception as to its o;ieration to a few learned bodies, includ ing the Universities of Oxford amid Cambridge. He considered this in itself a strong ground of ex ception to the becaus e each of these Warned hoilirs bad actually the administration and applies. tion of fluids or charitable donations connected With the education of the poor. Hence they had been excepted without reasons Ife had heard from a (ientler's:lo Mr. Parry), who hail taken tam pains to investigate this subject, and wit . % more success than even, he feared, would crown the la bours of the Committee, that, in the county of Berke, not one-fourth of the money devoted or ap propriated to charities had been ►eturned into the Court of Chancery as they should have been ; and that the returns of Web charities 'lately made by order of the House, contained statements of less property appropriated and applied to charitable 'lmposes of this description by '2.000/. or 3,006/. per annum thou similar returns made thirty years ago. Mr. BATPU RS? replied at Considerable length to the ' , taros -oils of the Noble Lord. H• had, when the Bill was proposed originally to the House, inquired whether its object was solely to investigate anal parities connected with the education of the tear; and had received assurances that it had reference alone to such institutions. The Bill now introduced had reference rather to those hi stitutions of a higher class, and even the Charter House, Christ's Hospital, and ethers, had not been excepted from its operation. He hoped the House wouid proceed with great caution before it deter. that the great foundations of a charitable or endowed nature connected with edilcation should be put into the bands of Commissioners, to he ap. pointed under this Bill, without its thing even al leged, much leas proved., that any abuse or neglect had been detected iu the administration of these learned Mr. BwoUullmit suggested, that neither the Right How Gentleman nor the Noble Lord were, by permitting the Bill to go through this stage, pledged to give their assent or support to it in any oilier stage of its progress; and the question Might, with equal advantage and facility, be argued upon the principle of the Bill, whenever the mourn, should be again pat that the Speaker leave the Chair, for the purpose of recotarnitting the Bill. At first sight it might be imagined the Bill had not confined itself strictly to the purposes to which it was intended it should apply itself, namely, Chari table foniid.itiont fur the education of the poor; hut it appeared Upon exisitimation, that even throw gredter bodies, not excepting even the Uoiver.iiies, had part of their funds or endow. inents derived from donations expressly g.iint ed with a view to educate those whose means were too contracted to admit of the expeticrs en tailed on students at those seminaries et colleges. lie could most heartily have wished that those five excepted /tamed four.dations had challenged inquiry into the atirdibistration of their affairs, and repelled the Nil imputation against the Annuli tration of their aff sirs, in the same way as a Noble Lard (St. Vincent) had done, when First Lord Of the Admiralty, and a Coentivisition had been ap pointed to inquire into alleged abuses in the Ad. miralty—the result of which had been the Com mencement :nal foosideioh of almost all the good to the country which had since accrued in the iodine of ittthlic lllVefil intim Whet' filed tip in the Com mil fee and the House would more readily per %wive the teorteney of the 1.1111. In introducing the Mode of tioinioation of Commissioner's into the Bill, he hod out beet, instigated by a jealousy of Go vernment, of a suspicion that it might wilfully abuse the trist!onage thus treated, but hail strictly followed the precedent laid down by th e w e ll-known Bills re.prentig Naval and Military ommiwion era ; the grata(' deriderulagm ui bitch II Cai•V bring, that out one man should be on the commis who ates not competent to the discharge of this important trust. He hoped these tegu-r button. would prevent the possibility of even one cy pher heti% admitted amongst these Commissioners. He regretted to say, that nuterithstariding Mr. Gil bert'. Art on this ieubjeet, it had been ascertained abut tit Brikeeliire three-fourths of the propriety up preepenitrit tee these charities had Areal altogether nit let .1 1 for-5,0110/. out of 2.11,000/. Boding its it to Ihr propseeerd destination,. Not inure th.o 7,0001. out of L.20,000i. had, under the wine Act:lieett returned to the Court of Chancery, it applicable to this species of chantable education. Comiuhtees*n this subject above stairs might be req well, as 'Tar is theca went ; but every thing t,ruved the aright necessity there now existed for the appointment Of Coaraissioisers, who Would have of poriatiny Of goint 'boat the country, Owl being eye-witnesses of the truth or falsehood of allegro! *Woes. He could not avoid wishing too, that the Cumatissiosiers should be empowered to the ,plaster, of Lion, %Vi n eheoter, and Westminster School., es well as those of the Chanter. Situate and Christ'o Hospital. Sr Joan Netvroite—When he had formerly drawn the attention of the House to this question, l!'s had to regret that a stand was made against empowering Commirsiontro to act in the same Manner as the Bill authorised its Commissioners, Merely, forsooth, that it was a ',regained inculpation of the conduct of the Master., or Governors of such charities or schools. Much had been then, hitch more had been since discovered; yet at the Period to which he alluded, all the Members of Geverument, and particularly the Law Officers of the Crown, were embattled in one phalanx against env appointibent of Commissioners, for the reasons before - stated. People, he was gigot to see, had since groom wiser, and the work of improvement and redress went hand in hand with the develope ingot of abuses. Nothing could be a greater boon to Ireland than a measure of this nature. Mr. Net. defended his Right Hon. Friend from the imputation of being unwilling or averse to any inquiry into the appropriation of the funds of these charitable associations : he had only said, he was averse to the mode of doing it. The Hon. Baronet had done himself great credit by the part which he had then taken, when he had moved an address on this subject, principally with reference to charitics of this nature in Ireland. He, for his part, felt disposed rather to extend than limit the exception fn this Act, and wished it had embraced not only He'Charter House and Christ's Hospital, but even arrow and Rugby Schools. Mr. BATHURST explained. Mr. BROUGHAM felt compelled to call the atten tion of the House to the case of the Charter House School some years ago, when it had been suspected that the funds of 11141 establishment had been di verted from their original purpose, the education of the poor, to the education IS the rich, and it was attempted to be exemplified in the case of the son of a clergyman, having a living of 8001. per annum. In ...it rase the Committee proceeded to examine their Charter, which they at first refused to pro duce, requiring, in not very respectful language to the Committee, to know how they were certain they had ally foods for the education of the poor. The Committee very calmly answered. Skew us the Charter. and we shall tell you whether you have or not." The Committee next resorted to the steward of the foundation, an attorney, the Charter House all the while couiplai 0000 og of the ill usage it received— from this attorney they endeavoured to extract the rerplired information, who replied, 4 ' Do you know who are the Governors of this foundation ? There is my Lord the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Lord Chancellor, the Chief Justice of the Court of King's Bench, and others, all Lords." The Committee replied, that this was the reason they had laid their hands on him, for the purpose of getting at the information from him, as they knew the Governors, who were Members of the Upper (louse, would not attend their summons. The official Gentleman was thus forced to afford the recoiled information. The balance sheet was emr mined, and he as well as uthera concluded this inquiry mooch more satiatied with the management of that foundation than he had begun. • Sir JOHN NEWPORT and Mr. B. BATHURST e 314 The House went into Committee on the Bill. The Report was thorn brought up, read, and ordered to be printed, and the further cousideratiou of it ordered for Thursday next. Sir Ctitaat.es SAXTON presented a Petition from eertain goseinors of charities in the town of Abiug. don, complaining that certain unfavourable repre -0...A311011S had been made in that House of the cots. duct of the trustees of the charities in the town of Abingdon, as having perverted, through selfish and interested motives, the bolds of the charity to their own advantage—a charge ofs most calumnious and disfounded nature, the charities of this nature hav ing always brew conducted with the strictest pro bity and attention to she public interest. It con cluded with expressing their desire that CuwKtis siouers should be dppointed to investigate the sub ject._ - Mr. Bitocrnu*ai stated, the petitioners had pro ceeded upon a misrepresentation of what had been said in a debate on this subject, wherein it had been remarked, that .25 institutions of this nature had not been returned to Chancery, as they had been required : nut, as had been represented iu the News pullers, that Sts of these, near Abingdon. bad beeu abused. Mt. Waoryssteir observed, that it Had been admitted on all hands that some inquiry iu this re. spect had beam agreed to be absolutely necessary ; and it had been inure particularly ascertained that Berkshire had nut reported adequately to its endow mein' into the Court of Chancery. Indeed through tit' England only twenty-one counties had wade these retiirci at all ; a circumstance which, When coupled with late complaints, guest just grosnd to suspect there existed somewhere a very and rrineliensible neglect. The Petition having been read— Mr. Bant:wan olij.cted to the terms used in this Petition as Ingiily improper, and derogatory to Parliament. It had Complained dust in the debate a tuluniniolia statement had beets insult, tither by his or others in the !louse. The fact, however, VI:IS, that these Abingdon gentlemen &implanted of what did not pass in that House oixthe debate, but bad taken a inistaterssent Irons the Newspapers, which had reported it inaccurately, as had already been eaplained, and then wanted to make the Ilemie answerable fur the sentiments thus attriblt rit by-the-li ) e, in die most questionable, irre gular, and estatsthairibtell Way} to butt or to , the I louse. The Petilinii, lie therefore conceived, !nub) not lie received, having reffeettd um the conduct of the ileisoe. Mr. 11A•rduasi e'orrected the of the ci r. Mr..W considered the Petition reflected upon the proceedigs of the Nome in a very un becominglllllK. Sir C. SAXTON agreed to withdraw the Petition, as he perceived there wilted considerable ol..icctiois to its reception. The Petition was then withdrawn. CHURCHES 511.1.. The Ctsice.t.on of the Eacticituya moved that the Order of the Day be read for going into Committee upon the Churches Bill. Sir Ronal Nat rose, and hoped the Right Gentleman would permit the Cotton Maim factories Labourer. Bill to precede his motion, as time matter had now lain over for • considerable time, not without exciting in the poor people's ds who were mted concerned in its passing, that the cause so dear to their hearts was about to be, or had actually been, abandoned. After 14 few words from the Staaasa, as to the order of proceeding— The CH•NCELI.O• of the EXCHEQUER agreed to the Hon. Baronet's motion having precedence, and the Report of the Churches Bill was tiled for consideration to-morrow. COTTON FACTORIES LABOURERS BILL. Sir KOIERT PEEL regretted. that the lion. Gen tlemen opposite hid neglected to oppose the Bill in the stage when it could have been done with least incoeveuien.•e. He, however, had acted to wards those Gentlemen with the utmost fairness, and the House had also departed from a point of form to enable these Gentlemen to resume the dis cussion. About sixteen years ago he had been in duced. through humane motives. he trotted— (Hear)—to introduce the Cotton Spiuners A pprev tiers Bill, to obviate the hardships these youvg persons then laboured under. If his Majesty's G. vernment and the House did not now lend their aid to his attempt, the evil would, and indeed load assumed a new and more alarming feature, and the former benevolent endeavours of the House would be rendered abortive--(Hear.)—The former Bill had been rendered nugatory by the change which had taken place as to the character of persons now employed in these factories. These factories are now carried oil is large towns, where, although ten times the number of children were employ. d, compared with that period when the Apprentices Bill had passed, none of theirs were bound by at tides, or any thing in the nature of a permanent contract. Thus the children were not entitled, nor could they rely on the protection hitherto afforded by masters to those in their employment. if they met with an accident, or were ill, the masters were not bound to look to or provide for them. The difference between this and the former Bill was therefore materiel. The former re. gulating the treatment of apprentices, by the then law entitled to protection from their mar. tens—this providing for the treatment of those who had no legal, or often no natural protector. Their ease was truly distressing, being compelled to endure continued labour for fourteen hours a day, an exertion far above their strength, and which • very short time rendered them unfit for any thing in the shape of exertion.—(Hear.)—The subject had been strongly recommended to the in.. terference of Parliament by numerous Petitions— amongst others, one from the medical gentlemen of Manchester to the amount of thirty ; another from twenty-one of the clergy ; several from the spinners themselves, and even the master maiisfacturerv— the sole motive of most of whom, therefore, must be, a benevolent wish to alleviate their situation. There had been an allusion made to general princi ples, and it was said to be impolitic to interfere with free labour by legislative acts. Could this fairly be denominated free labour ? or, if it were even considered to be such, which he; for one, could never concede, would not the House feel it a duty to yield to the pressing remonstrance of the medical, clerical, and all other respectable classes of society, who had too interested object in wishing its repeal, and had stated the dreadful effects to these little children, and even to adults, resulting from this incessant application to laborious occupa tion in strongly heated apartments, and which had been found, in the case of the younger children, to prevent their arriving at their full growth, or eves' assuming the appearance of maturity when of full age ? He concluded by entreating the House would maturely weigh the merits of the Bill before the HOOP!, and support it if it should appear to be cal/misted to alleviate the hardships and sufferings of these little helpless and unprotected victims of our manufacturing prosperity.—(Hear, heai.) Lord STANLEY regretted he felt it his duty, and a duty lie owed to his cousititorents, amongst whom for the greater part these factories were curried on, to oppose the present Bill. Io Lancashire this oc cupation formed the staple of the country. It had been said this eras timely an amendment on the 42d of the King ; he could nor see how this sprung out of the Apprentices Act, more particularly if, it had been said. the system of apprenticeship had totally vanished in these factories. After a considerable body of evidence had been laid before the Committee above stairs, and reported to the House, the Hon. Baronet's Bill was introduced ; and the mtnufacturers vrefe istoniihed to find their interests had been decided upon without any op portunity being given them to represent their case to the House, or be heard by Counsel at the bar. He could not but object to any interference in free labour—and here it was particularly objectionable, as these children or adults were themselves free labourers; and often the children of free labourers, who were upon the spot to watch over their interests. Another point of consideration was, that it at once militated against the exercise of particular trades without the previous qualification of apprentice ships. The professed object of this Bill was to in. terpose between the parent and the child, the mas ter and the juvenile workperson, and to hold out to the public that those whose duty and whese in terest dit'Aated affection and care to those about them, were indifferent to the first morat obligiatiosui they were bound to consider. The proposed Bill struck directly agstist that established pritociple wine) gave the parent the labotw of his chill during his minority, so long as lie gave him adequate sup port. It did this by fixing the minimum of the child's age for tabunr, and the restriction of his hours of work. The restsh of ouch a regitlatioi► must iHrvitabh! 6e, that the children would erase to be employed, and their parents would lose the value of their labour, while the choldregi were consigned• to unprofitable idleness.—(Hear.)—lie "MUM also ~:' assert. without fear of contrail.etioo, that there was nothing ,a the nature of the cotton trade to nuke it the subtrct of peculiar regulation in this nu r. It was idle to talk of ib unhealthiness as an in ducement for legislative interposition. tVas it so unhealthy as water-gilding, us employment its the glass works (particularly the manufacture of plate glass), or us in ',rimehes of the weaving trade?—amid who ever heard of legislative interference in rubor of these branches'? The / Noble Lord tlitairgute4 out that in these trades, whitth he stated as brint far more exceptionable than the cotton trade, the working people were exposed to the vicissitudes of excessive heat and cold, to damps of every as in the coal and lead mines, and every sinews of bodily infirmity, and yet he repeated nobody ever culled fur legislative enactment is. the management of these concerns.. fie would again contend that this Bill went to disconnect the parent front the child, the child from the master; sod rimier the plausible pretence of tatting care of the health of the infant race, *eat at once to undermine it, by depriving the individuals of the means of procuring adequate comforts for their maintenauCe, which tiny were able to do by the exertions of their unlimited industry at present. The diminution of *ages at tendant upon the proposed alteration would work a far greater evil than it was proposed to core, and on this subject he differed from the opinions of the medical men whose names had been quoted, for they rather relied oil general speculative statements than on particular facts. He could speak from his own knowledge, as an ofteer of the Lancashire militia, that lie never saw utsy appearance of this reduced state of health among the cotton factory workmen ; on the co ntrary, be thought that their advantages, as compa red with other labourers, were conspicuous. His main objection to this Bill was, that it sanctioned a principle never before recog nised in this country, amid which, if adopted in this case, must be carried to others, to the injury of a free trade, or what was called a free trade. Out the whole, he was so convinced of its impolicy, that he felt it necessary to move, as an amendment to the motion already made, that " this House do resolve itself into the said Committee this day tour months." On the original question being put from the Chair— Lord LAMELLES rose sod said, OW he could not suffer this question to go to a vote without stating his view of the main points at issue. On the prin ciple of the Bill, he would say a Few words, and he agreed in the opinion, that if applied here, it must be admitted inotheresses, and, as he thought, to the injury of all. He was fully aware, that, o n a subject of this kind, the matt who seemed to stand up against what was called a question of hu manity, must doom at the risk of being immediately run down; but ibis would not deter 1 from the ex pression of his sentitnetivs—(Hear)—and even as a question of humanity, he cautioned the House bow it proceeded on mere feeling upon such a subject.— (Hear.)—lf tins principle of regulating every branch of trade, and affixing the degree of labour to be employed in it, were to be sanctiolied by legislative interposition, the comequence would be fatal to the goieral interests of commerce, and the result in this particular instance would be, that all the children under sixteen years of age would be thrown front the factoriee on their parents, and from them to the parish fur Imp port.--(Heai.)— •If even they were relented, the effect of the limitation of hours would be, that they obtained an accession of idle time, but not any means of making that time productive in any respect far themselves. A great evil appeared to be, the mode of working up back time, when ally of those accidents happened to the intik s which either occurred from waist of sufficient water, or from an excess of it. One of the Hon. Members for Coventry had said. on a former night, that We deterioration of health in those employed in the cotton factories was observable at SI first in the distorted hinhs and utihealthy appeurance of the objects. These may be facts so fair us to the state of the individuals, and yet without the imolai trade being answerable for them ; hut if the trade be really the cause of slick evils, the blow ought to be struck at the whole system of the trade, and mit at a reduction of the hours of work. Ile lied had some experience in the inquiry from which this men sure originated. Had it sprung from the Hon. Baronet alone (Sir K. Peel), to whose experience he would logy great deference, then indeed lie might be inclined to give the subject a closer attention ; hut he rather thought it (iu part at least) sprung reran another coiner—that it furtuedaa part of that system of moral education which wigs projected by an iiidividaal (Mr. Owen) iii the management of this brunch of trade, who said, that Iron) his own experience at Lanark, the reduction iii the hours of labour, se far from being injurious to the gene ral produce of the factories, rather tended to in crease it. Thii was a privation beyond his (Lord Licacellet) comprehension. He was totally un connected with any of the parties at issue in this IN. salon ; but he thought it only fair that els inquiry should take place befoie a Select Committee. into the specific grieiattites puler which children were said to labour in the cotton rectoties: this at Iciest should precede any legi ilative interference. At present the House *ere called on to proceed without sufficient groom)* to justify such a course, and in the ableoce of that decided information which the ease called for, to obtain u just and Inci couilusion. Its bad no doubt that souse port of the system acted upon was wrong ; but the queati was, whether it wise aroog to the extent that Called foe legislative inquiry, in such a manner as would establish ati inference Olt the parent, the child, mud the master, had distinct cud seporate interests, iiicomputilde with the real state of each other's duties amid coinforta. H e w as , therefore; decidedly of emit: nu, that a Contittitt,•e up stairs could alone get at adequate inlornottioo, and that this rten slonuhl precede the contrnittol the Bell in the I louse. In t!eioring this course, lie was only actuated by is sincere desire to do justice to all partira.—(llea,, hew.) Mr. Peet, said, it was unnecessary for the No ble Lord to :moue the House of the sincerity nod candour of Isis views, us these were as manifest as that los lionmisitty was uinpiestionable.—(Hear, Aeue.)—lie begged leave, however, before he en tered into the general que.tjon, to object to one or two of the allusion% of the Noble Lord, which had a tendency to impress Upon the House a prejudice %rine the BM, on the grouud that it bid the . t•N -bk \\A • . support of a gentleman (Mr. Owen) who iticul catrd certain specedahve opinions oo subjects of political economy. There was ao strength ii sods an argument—for. if true, it on'y wrist to ibis, that whole subject shotild be merged iu the tortes creel views of a particular advocate. Against soul, it doctrine he would proileat notifisami, thot the question must rest of its ewe. merits, rend not Cu any adventitious support. The Noble Lord .required further docutudato to throw a light on the subject, and, therefore, called for a Committee. in answer to this call, he (Mr. Peel) would only say—not Bost other olocurneuts nary not throw light on the subject, bat hail not the Noose teddy before it eilotigh to establish the orcessily o f adopting they Bill ?—(Hear.)—But lie would not rust the mutts of this question tot the general evi dence in its favour ; he Nook' be content to prove its efficacy. on the statenweits of those who were its oppouents, and to their ulwervattons he w 0 1,1,1 chiefly confine his colon/elate. Frolo these it was quite clear • great grievance had subsisted—a gilevance which It was most desirable to remove, If it could be done without a COlilfilVelllllol of cultic priocitale. The opponents of dila measure iioay he divided into two classes—one id which was soaisolole of the great evil of excessive labour,- tioole the coo.- stitution of children, but who ore at. to establish a plinci o le of interferveico•, (ion he carried too far. The tf. I class 'lewd ille altogether, and Mallard may legislative alit. I 1 ,,, ! . .i:•01:• With respect to the Ist class, he was at a hiss to we bow it could be teremtaiiied, that it 11616%1111e eio plied to • particular et II eiiolf hr at ed lipan .1 precedent in other cases chore that tail did not exist. To say th e principle was to. ...hoot r precedeot was contrary to the Net, for it was critistaolie acted on in commercial regulations where petit,. liar eiceptiona from the geneo•ol lode of trathog practices called for 0 1101111:U10r 'node of relief. Now, did the cotton trade present suck an earep boo as called for Ile upplicaurioo of thi% remedy ? thought it did, and low this a tason —lt was cal rwil me in immense Incildtogs, in auauy of 04111 more than 1,000 were kept at %took. la„, 14, and minietentes 15 hours a clay—(llear)—no 111%111101011 10 . 111 g between I:re child of die tenderest age and the most grow: 4 or In toe,. the imbecile ailed the strong. The !loose would also bear in mind, the frequency of accidents to which the mills of the facto, les were ottliie, t. and th e mode taken for bringing up tare ill - frair of manufac ture, by making the children look up Ilse lost tone by an excessiv e application of extra boon; on the future days of work. Adele dto alit. root 'Mui of this extra labour, was the heated atmosphere iu wheel* the children were obliged to work, and the degree of tempriature in which they wear kept four hold big the threads, in particular branches of the ma eitlacture, if the evil were a bill ill une, then le gislative interposition may br WilWt:ebbnry, ou the 'onion, de ntanianis non enrol lex, but here the evil was confearwelly great, for in Nlatieliesfer alone leo leas than 11,000 children were employed in this trade. The Noble lord had objected to may to terpositiole, on the ground that it would ether the relations between the parent and the child, the child and the master, ti aid street that arottigetneut of free labour, or, as lie afterwards qualified it, by what was called free labour." Lord STANLEY here explained, that it was called free labour, though It was in fact at the coultuanal of the parent. Mr. PEEL, resumed, and said that the erroneous conclusion of thei\u hl e Mil- was sutapwarrd there was no charter, no medium, betoreo the tonployineut of the children For a period of 14 or 15 hours a (1;17: air their actual discharge front work altogether.--,'!leer, hear.)—lt was also said that there wait a greater isaterret in the care of chil dren chits eihployeel, 'loot if they were tie the hands air Masters as iippi entices. Ile 4N1... l'relj ors of quite a different 1.11111i44.1, for the master luotl au interest in preserviog the loadell cf his mptorerotice, piereiculasly during his early years, far he was bound so to apply his time, its to prevent his being a burden upon I by elidisposillon fir otherwise during the subsisting elogrgetteriot it Wilt/ illlp. - tative Upon tun to inaustant—but ill the fat-tortes elle tea ties uF rug igenteart weir either daily or weekly, and the PfdOlietur, io case of illness or accident, tool always at 1111101 the 1101111 ii of replacing ihr person do charged. tie had c ttttt menet(' with stating, that i e would make out a case from the stutemetets of ilia oppoisents of the measuie. The partner of ill., lionourable Meiotic,. opposite (Mr. Medleys ( lead said before the Coinusitee that the ladl bore harder the the factories in the country than an these of Aboichester, liar the Ltier •• woe nearer the market for labour." What was that but saying that pa n da might always hue obtonia ed lay the Manufacturer with facility, unit, ther, fore, there existed no sieceseety relax mg :try part of that system ander wl•iclt so niaioy Nett tatt ling to act? Substitutes were thew essay had for the sick car the weak child, oriel so very great thiceinent was held out to sheer the necessity of restricting the hours of Loboter. Look, la the case of the occident* to sib eh these milts were liable. and the coliseapietet practice of melting tip for lost time in the mode of pursuit;; the business when the ituicleinery was again ell' 1.. motion, and foe (loose moat be at truce struck With the severe deities imposed slum children. 11. tot has been raid, the consequentat of this Bill 0111 be that the moods will loppletot the chadors' by the employment of subtles t then it is clear that the former are toddy retatiseel for their (abour, sod that the itotertst of Ih t ro a ster was pot, had been assetterl, a sufficient se, 'way for the tientsurot at the child. Braides, what security Cat there that the factories Otould nut relapse i n to tie systole of had management Irmo which they bail einer.:,il! . What tecitaity was there that if I).l6l'a:tent with drew its ioderference, the arrangements of tl ear estaloll•hoereits would soot sg in 101 l ado that oile golarity and oppressite distribution of habitue which preeuitii.ly charm-Ivo .zril them? The Tllll l l'l' hours during which children were flop), yeti at these factories, appeared, from the evideliee of the pee !ale toes the nisei we s, to viely , all average, °I 1 . 1 - 0111 livtiVle to fifteen lotour• eau+ day. Ile nee itionufactore at Matichester. oiled' employed fidt ) , personas, 374 of them west' tinder 18 tearsnf l'gr 0101 %%hest they coosideled that 11,0)0 diadem , were dens employed in one towel, it vas au t oga- . latent. a j,Tiuri, ,1 11,1111111 was itArrtller 10 the obeli pans sat the 61111 . iee1, that, /Mali ltit. Mit& 01 . ['unwed. the truant/WI , et•opetineners to the bed& 1 IV ill AUG) prist 111., rid ay.). I 0 Ike h poi lii. • • lulu ii 0t de