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it appeared the only perstowtote beepterent,slgoo. wives! They were, in fact. to sit in judignent on their own awe. A more eweepins proposition than this was never introduc e d i n one assenshly;—and it would toot be brought forward. nor'Astetviel la, in any other society. The ItlohleNiecouni had entreu ed into a considerable length of detail, with goklt to the Petitions. Bat 'the queltiop:iessi . w , whether the alleptirtna ettutnitnll in lb* 1 4- 0. Al o ng Fete pile or not. Th,tt opoi .11* , . ,w she Committee. Thome persons cl .Ilowsthap had .been arrested illegally--and that; *WWI* thee coullisennent. they h a il b een ill Irvin"( i 'freer it dire the dote of the Manse to direct that their buttemente ' should he examined. If persons were Committed, not on oath, by the Ndhle - Viorount, wrs,.be xso titled to indemnity .for push impetteatee eitturtict ? Nllhere von thitt.fect to he one_ripn4,.? 1 4rgnipl i r *the Committee then *Wing. Nothirieibercireltalleo *once,. no permit dared lobe entausitteri e eneeptain ooth ; ,on Magistrate could make oat • storpitil. mint, *it hoot . that forollseeisoftwen xi zZiettetll4 X)id; then. the auseemilisr f t tfeeV_ . . ' wikit give this eatteutdmory-ssioser I irk treepties‘ s that it diel.not—andolsesefore, inquiry ea thir point ,wek siecewery. in opposing tbeeginsidentlitio ist 'them retitintn. would the 'Noble Ifistirotntwty„thatt It was qnite.clerr to him that .14 jweota.pgl got ilm. a-eiored him ) Mehtign usitbiog of.tlw.permatathe • 'had petitioned. --fillets?. Agar, d illmer•tho atiolisteriel heisekes. ) —They might •be soma. dfbedetrivieter. _(h ese .)—Witlt thet he hattfiblilittlftattt . * The n 9isillio.wa!, ljedthose permaek ma ap i ng 4•01 If they refused an inquiry onthis sultjitet, they came to this—they told the country, isidirtetly..that they had appointed a Committee, nut for the purpose of fair ingniry, but to white-waah their Contlict.-- 7 .44eise. heee.)-!-rie had erten. he.ard tkiii.persons reprobates!. who attempted .to become initgei in their own cause. But Ministers went -farther. They. the accused parties, were not only judger, hut they were Also witnesses. This was a ononstrOus impropriety—and, to counteract it, he Would ,give his moat hearty assent to the motion. Earl ; 11cenuasc was of opinion, .that the Morse would he deporting from its usual course. if this motion were agreed to. The Committee, now sit. tong. had authority to move.forifresh informatioo, if they cogiceived it to he necessary. And, he de manded, was it fair in these who knew .00t.what documents were .before the .couvrittee, to move that the.. Petiroeschould.be fermwded to them fur their instructs ? As to the Committee be.. jog formed, for the purpose of resisting Mi. 'Miters to carry a Bill of 'lndemnity. the state ment could ant be .supported fur A mensent. —The 'Report of that. Committee, on which the Bill of ludeinisity must depend, would *peek for itself. If. when that Bryon were made, .. it appeared that a Bill of lisifeloyity.was not call. ail for. or was notch-served.. the.lioshie would teject jt. The Noble Earl (Contorting') had wsarmed, that the information laid. before the.Comensitwe was lint 1. uflieu.sst to mutton*, a Bill of 'lndemnity. If that were the fact, the Rouses could rehire to peso suc h al MIL The utifeent practice of.111:11opse had bleat followed oss. dais occariam--aod though I.e ousas:t not in .my. that, under pertialler sir . ominous-es, it ought not to he departed Pliant— yet this he would sower, that • their Lionholps ought to be particislerly eaulioes An Alloonsag any deviation from their ordinary :inks. On former occasions, no such sitenopt. no .such imposition, hail been made. Noble 'Lords said. they knew nothing of those who signed the 'Ps-- minim—they could not speek to the character of the. persists who snide the allegations. Was that a reason for initoslucing them ? If Noble. Lords li.il examined the statements contained in - the Petitions. and were improved with their truth. that would bee ground for presieug• the,motim s — But in the absence of that coorwliou be. could POP ISO reams whatever far imipporting. su ch o pears 'Moo. The matter. Drew Peritionrmight be cog?* tiered as dividing itselfinto two heads: .First A it ups complained that the Petitioners.were illegal y ,teben up—sad next. that they were severele treeirtd. Awls on these grounds, • it wanAssetted that :en inquiry ought to be mode. Now. with respect' to the harsh moaner in which individnala were mit', to harebeeu *rested, be should only °home, throt the itAnotled .8111 of loileneity would be very tEiresaotrrrose any that was ever before parsed. if a clause.werwiallm doer! in it to prevent those vital coneigleeed ilieut 'tires figgtiered• from having recourse to those re .medies which. by law, were open to them. ;So for tittle Petitions wool" be 'complied ,wide-.for AO clause would be propmed• that could .imerfore..with their right of appealing to law, if it were found ne cessary. Now, with respect to the Petitinetne hey- . nig been impropetly messed, 'ilk were referred to a Committee to. ingoriee into that poiot s what-were they to ezateine ? i Were. they to inquire whether those permits had brew guilty or not P If ties' were the care, he would oak how , the Committee war to proceed ? The person, deducing themselves to be innocent must bring forward all the proof in their power to substantiate. their innocence; whilettdi- Misters, on the other hand. must introduce all. Ilse evidence they could (not only the information ori ginally given, but every fact subsequently dis closed). in o rder to phew their guilt. In other, word*, the Committee most try those persona,. and that, too, without tbs. power of administer ing an oath. What would the. tonsequence be ? Would any man saty. - that. - if one of • 'those in- ' divilluals were foaled innocents his original com mitment on a charge of high treason Must. theve-; fore, he a breach of taw ? • Might not circsomodiscee fully warrant that commitment ? But. taking that reverse—supposing that the indrvidual !masted to he guilty, was he to be set at liberty, or was he tat he sent down to another trial. having °Maims) a full knowledge of every point in his favonr, and of every circumstance that wade against him ?.-/Hear, Agar. 1-4 J nder all the, oircopontarsces stets. if the constant practice of the Moose had.ilmenadintetly the reverse of what it reallpwelk he could ePP,e . referring those Petitions to a Committee. • The Marquis k now s or LawsDoww wished to &now t whether.' if aoy indillidull. Membe r .1: the 01191. tnittee moved that papers .be caressed to.it e .the Nonse was prevented, by any form.' fees accodiug to that motion ? The Earl of Lrrsapoot. said. the Committee must move. by their Chairman,, es a body. or -not it all. The Noble, Earl's rootioti.oppnred to bin to be quite .prensetuee--becatue •it was competent fur the Committee, if it were the fact, to oatb.ibot, fo•factocr • it irai:jilap Ott ke.sp . ~t o indnce ilie to mine down to their Lordships, and way, that the esidence eta imidficietar P44AL 6 4. &where, they taut have fifth documents laid r - Haiiscanie weave Of became it prevented in/idiome statements, i.ith.re epee to particular persons, which aught always to be .avoided.— , (firer, .hair.)-41e was decidedly of Opinion, that it wit not proper that all persons-- that individuate of every shade of political opinion —should be placed . in situations where t h ey might become acquainted with .the secret istf,orinetion of Government; and know all the green& on which Minidees felt it their duty to act. The Noble Lords oppositeilied arraigned, and might arraign, idiatme,....-but. theirs was not the tribuivil to which he would bow. Why.rellectione had been casino the Committeethe could not eouceive—.fir thaw Noble Lamle, of wheat it was compaueddied as greet ca in. Iciest in the welfare mat piespeaty of. the country... the iodividuale who attaeled thirty 'With re4ect to the Petitions tlioniselies. . he libould say very little—for what had been offered .to the Mouse by his /Noble Friend appeared to be peke sallkieet. They did. as had beep obaerireci f touch upset two pointsrserst, thetPletitimseis complained that they Ind been: ineptly arrested and centlinedisoul newt, that Way, had bees harshly and crueller tibetird while in cesillnemeot. 'With respect to the lain charge, he amid only repeat whet his•Nable Friend. hod stated, that:the Bill of Indemnity would be eery diliferent indeed . from soy ever , before introduced, if it woes. eel ',Ministers. Magistrate., gaoler., or any deter*. ties. of persons., from the punishment they would be bolds to, if they had committed any criosimil breach of . the. hut. i r that emcee ground of complaint, It certainly was not a poi n t at Mane betneen•sle r ee. With "epee. to . the Petitioners Items; beMs;ints golly arrested. and•diaaharged without havingrbeik' brought to trial, .that wes.a matter on whisk she Causraitteet must decide.. The .11lottla illael (Gros tenor) who exclaimed so loudly moan* the teidwet of Illiasisters, laud himself,.. &mew occasions. voted for the suepension of the Habeas Corpus Act.- -.(Heirr, hear)—lie saw the neetraity of the measure, furl Vaal for that which he now re probated—the intimating to. the , IE nem tive. Govern ment the power of taking up and detaining per sons etespected of treasonable designs. It was made a 'object of great complaist, ghat all she per. sons arrested were not brought to trial. . But this was a futile temple.. ; for, if every person ar tressed .were brought to trial,. there *mild he so ne cessity for the Suspension Act. As to the pro venly of. passing it,. that was a.qiestion open to diecomsioin—cunt , he would be ready to argue it, emlwilevevit came regularly before the lieuse. Earl Gaoseanoa. in eirphinatioti, said.. that, whin he voted for the Saspenainu of the Habeas Corpus Act. the eireurpstances wire .widely 'diger eut Born thoet ma eibisitthe late momore wire found ed. , With . Nitwit, fat. the PetitiouN. they were not so destitute ottetetter of- fact. as, the Noble. Earl seemed iti.stippose. - One Petitioner stated that he eaccfregged from-Manchester to London, without Nose. mid he cilled-for trial. 'This, he conceiv ed. was • matter of fact, that called for examination. • Loki • ffeit.t.ssou sold, that, cunsidrnug this to ben most important question—considering it as a branch of the great question it issue between the Ministers and the people—he should be sorry to quit the House without delivering his sentiments on it. The NoblrEart had made severul obiervatimis on the envoi...ince of 'hie Noble • Friend (Earl Grosvenor) having. on former oecasiona, voted for the suspension of the . Hisheits Corpus Act. Ile hoped those observations would sink deep iu the mind Of his Noble • Friend—he hoped they would make a deep impression on the couestry—as they tended to shay the tetterqsenee of asepoinling, even fora moment.. the great preffetfittee of our liberties. Fort it would be Met ;that he who once consented to such a suspensiou. was afterwardethought to be unlit to•drlivee hie judgment on a similar measure, howeverdelferent theeireamstances might be under which it wee proposed. .0 Before thiseight it never NA. bees *lilted. Ilea. when ParliaMent was in tamed to ',Depend the Habeas Corpus. Act. it was .she r! for the Purpose of imprisoning 'nen. with out any intention of bringing them to trial.-- . I•Bettlbs thy. Noble Earl .and was the case in the • jam inetince. • The Noble Earl observed, when it rine tented that persons were takes up under thus bilsigiusisik Act, asiddischorged without trial. that Web was ever the case when the Mabee , Corpsi 'Abe was in abeyance. He (Lard Hittleall) was nor( eiviesi.d to the ihoesesion of thicetehject--and h I had beard ir doctrine directly the eseunery, elelivir4 ed by the Noble Lewd.. the Woolarek. ) He hal • fareiterltenasedi that, es under the , Baspensime Acti perm& ciald only be attested on oath—anal those • 0..804 i MA' the inteatese of. bsio 4 c brought , to trial But, lest the source of information should h ° betrayed, it was:jsraisero Stitt they should not 'might . .to trial , on .the mouleat--beca woe. ' i -Ilan teem the ease. ' it would • inutile atlwr traitor* lb tilespei" • This ens tite.argument when a emit > pension +eche. Habeas Corolla Act was propined ; bat When that sempensiouwee nit more—wlwu..after • year of misery (for it was a state of unmet. where ;411PITIWalV t PINil !PVT VP Of i!ine PRI.%) , IN 11 0" NM" , t Fr 411 1 ' 1 47 4 47.Pg.!F told by Iliii.usteri i - t tney tisk ,up pres Atty *fleet the, Peep ittie,nliefi. ii! Orin* Ao trial - (Her. #earl-lod .they !: prriwd ',telling oa the' douse tot . a. l . [or Well" meted . in,p,osit ti9 ee pet' :y , egent rig that they Mid they would °pt.-I*es Pc.4 - 7 1 r 1 . 1 1 'NF.' 5m ble Viscount .FtispldcrPll o o. or ,einoitlet . st4 qi , iare• jtreresiteir his Zlobli rrieitttit tilveci.vtgos.heplid. tint to call on theliftesse ,t? tier thit,PktilinnA to the Committee was a sleeping data*. The we*: tion.was one .that .11cuteeded thoxbole.ottiotion or iho.tioogo. sod. es a c°Mleitßit,l o o .sittititrici in lithe i n t o the state of the nation. And the grymnsti on Which Ministers had acted. he isatarelle eisenifiett e ., ceived that the Pendant' ought to Pe refereed to it. This proposition was met by a reference to ii point erform-bat every ward which was urged with re spect to that poiot . of form, was, ankst mo ti ee y. an Utillt 01 ANON! -ii he he!' .*'' ,o o l lljiiiieer Ike Pr!' is hr mode of reirissing the Cominittle: . The 'Noble Eer. l- 4 4 1atated„thotir would cat - Jamie ke.lfW 19; a . tribunal composed of"goble Liicis taken from that side of the H005e.,He.(1.971 H.) conceived the Noble Earl had depleted from has usual courtesy. in nta k Mg, thia personal Amnon ion. Re stotild any to the Noble Earl. that, if impotent, he would not wish him to be his Judge unless the whole o f th e ca s e were ham s him'-.ond,: on the other hand; if he went ,a guilty titan, ,he should ,not abject to .his us judgment on him. if. es rig.. the mode .by Ministers, he bad the arrangement of the case, the selection of evidence; and his favouring enter, in the appointment of the other Judges. Moisters had, last Session. hurried on the Save.- siou Ad. When the StvrltrY of a Society in : I •A''' dins petitioned the . 11quae,_ offering to prove that certain allegations co n tai ne d In die Report of the Secret Committee were trot founded 'in fact, they refused to entertain it-they amid no time was to be losit:-and declared that, independent of that par ticular imint, there was suilicient ground to au thorise the suspension. He protestid then, and he protested now, against nick an arbitrary systent. *perry was loudly rolled for--and he would not easseent that it should he a partial one--en investi gation. in which the old maxim of earn alterina portent, was entirely laid aside.-(Ater. Atter.) He wished to know what Mintatery had to say to ,anly Cluirgin . that otsight be mide Against the-he ins anxious to lei4n what vigilance Of ad . *hewn in removing a pprehend e d dangers-a nti, to mite to that information, 'he called on the' WOO to open its doors, and to hear what the people had to ad vance. with respect to any pievarryi they !night have suffered under the late meosure. A .strelng feeling•exiited, that the people had cot been fairly treated-and 'reports were,iery prevalent that the, Noble Viscount had hi m self b een frothy of high misdemeanors. It wait a qnestion whether he' fwd a right to lay down the law to Magiiitrates.it was also a queition, whether hi had not violated the laW of the land in employing spies and informers to the extent he had • dime. ifhe Noble Viscount mid. it was idle to suppose that Oliver had formed all the plans that were on foot. Perhaps he did not busy himself in all of them. but it was most ;mein that he had done utisch ,to ,eacite did ectina l and iliaturbanCe :-Ind, if be,were sdloweds he ono prove to the House, as spite of 04441441 of Mi wisterey that such was the fact. He would shear that Oliver had taken an active port in all the troubles that had broken out-.that he was busily employed at Nottingham. at Manchester. pt York. and ,at other places-(Hear. liettr.).L.He did not mean to prejudge Oliver-but, fie would say, that, it they meant to examine the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers. they mast minutely investigate all the facts competed with that person. He. did net mein to say. that. in all case, themiployment of spies was illegal and unjustifiable-hut Olio he would maintain. that no persons should have recourse to them except stub as could distinguish facts fron t falael:oods. The Noble - Lord here referred to • isamage it. Home's History of Ragland. where the historian ' speaking of th e emplo y ment of , spies and info rmers by Burleigh and Wplsingham, in the year 1584. observed, ' 4 That. great as the penetration of those Statesmen was, they were •deneired by those persons ;, and mosey innocent in fdieiduals were in consequence persecuted"-and argued, that, when men of such isleitts were un posed 'Two, it Was not hissarchng too Meat to sup pose that fias . Majesty's Ministers might' also hive .been imposed •on. He then adverted to the neces sity. *here deception was so eMily raetised, of granting an inquiry into the . alleged abuse or the ',trier granted to Miosisters---iml truchaded by strongly condemning the passing of al Pdentsiity • Bill.which won Id screen from punishnient dime who had procured extraordinary powers lei lisp purpose of preventing. the law from being opurisoned., het . who, by memos of titore . misers. had. AloneweAegs grossly violated the Canstoution of the country. • The question was then put front the:Woolsack, and negatived without a division. Adjourned till to.inerrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Tampa; Fes. IL On the motion of Mr. Alderman Row (of Dub lin). accounts were laid on the table, a the p r o s sp e of the Window and Hearth Taxes in Ireland, fur the years 1815. 1816, and 1817, di►tinguishing each year, A Bill was brought in for lighting the city of Bath with gar.—Reed a .Orst time, aod ordered to .bt mil a second time to-mormw. A person from the Treisury presented account' of the net revintie of Oriat Britain and !related fur the last year: aloo sireonnts of the number of esa touts in aid issued in the last yeas. •AURGERT REGULATION BILL .The Surgeil Itegiakatiuss.ktill "tab. orglereetto raid, • seas h 4 time un riday. the gid igat. cu M, $1! PE E S. Mr. BronrZTT bruu ll t up ;he Report of I Chimney 4wrepenb' Bill.—l'he etuelkhirento WI raid and agreed to, and the Bill Ordere l d 'to be re • the•thiwd time to.itiorrow. M r . Tz ED gl oved CI, !did of all VitNININ captor by private Wisps or war mauve the year 1794, wit 1166 alauunt of their procee!ho.-,-,Ortlreetl. AGRLCULTVItAL HOUK . DUTIES. Ou the usoluni of NF. Lusulawrot4 thcH9use weal iota Committee upou the i Agricultura) Hoeft 44:t. ; is Ow 4;lll,4pittew a reaol4tioat we* Zrto for ron‘inping so much of the existing at related totoe redaction Of the duties on. agri. Wilton, liners for soother year, mid a Bill was Oilfired iceisraingly. . . • - • 'MEIER. Mr. Caswell. felt it his' duty to advert to a spnetion of site utmost importance to the country, wltlwthfrh he was Noxious to presider. that lie win eti Much disposed as any man in that House, to sib :lis from introducing any Meillitilre which might considered to invade any vested rights—he' of hided to the subject of tithes. • It ens a fart well kiloton.* that, within the lads seven years, not less bio; in tithe causes had been decided, and en egad number now remained for decision. . All Null whatever were. of course, subject by law. to the contriblition of tithe; and in eery many in 'fences this was ipportiosied in form of a modus. which was en allowisnee or movement. it sow tench per sere, in money, instead of produce. The law relative thereto was. he regretted to say, as yet het imperfectly defined. Caere hod been decided' ow different principles at different times-4nd while this irregolai 'smilee existed, obvious public inconvenience must be the consequente. In all males there was an • excessive 40c-shy in establish. sngg • mode's spinet the right of the Clergy, sr** were, by common law. entitled to tithes, rx. CeOt the pariehirions. could phew their right to an etemptimi, founded in a goodies or conspiaiiirm of tithes. which in Many cases bore a date hoot less than 300 or 500 lean back. The hardship upon the parishioners was. therefore, excessive, whets obliged to exhibit proof of a right of exemption, 'hien they only could do by producing the ancient dominsent or iostniment uposi which their claim was founded. The Bill which he now 'imposed to in tredve* into the House, he had sanguine hopes would remove the greater part of the inconveniences Wkieh.revulted from the present manner of ascer. mining n proper commencement of • moduli, or the title to exemption from tithe on the pan of parishioners. He moved that leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend the law relative to Tithes. The auntiets being put-- Sir W. Score rose, sod regretted that the House should; in the former Session of Parliament, have entertained any* grave measure, or any thing in the shape of • Bull to re-model the laws respecting tithes. upon the representation made to that . liontu through the median, of certain Petitions preiente;il last year. most of which contained sentiintnts so @beard and inconsistent, that it was nothing short of insanity which must have dictated the most servos. parts of these effusions of ;celeste arrogance. Some of them stated that the system of tithe wee contrary to the spirit of Christian morality--anothtr asserted that the system was cslculated to produce a moat prejudicial effect On our political relations', arising from our insular* situation. &c. That of Horncburch represented it as at' once destructive to the agricnitoralists, and' at variance with the interests of the Christian religion. —rd lough, f All that could be inferred from such appeals to Parlisasent was, that there were spirits suiScitiotly active and anti-tithe as to occasion a numerous list of women, marksmen, and others of the meanest and lowest detiCription. - A Muisher of these•Peti tious Originated id the count, of Sonserseti which bore evident Marks, from their similarity Of style, expremion, sod 'even hand-writing in the body of the Petition. to have been ?rained by the tame pit. ties. Ole mind ass not made up to oppose the Bill at present—but he entreated the house to pre= creed with'serispulons caution in the examination of this Most grave and serious . suhjecr, lest they.should Fleshly invade or overturn a sysieid eMisecrited by years, and erected by the shiest, most learned, end virtuous of our Lawyers and Statesmen. through period of several centor.in.—t Heirr./—The legis lative copartenary oine enyed by the Clergy, jointly wdi the Houses of Parliament, was long since at Li end. The power of legislating for theM. selves had 'gradually been resigned by that body,* fir else Wrested from their hands by Parliament, and he trusted the House wonld make a just and a getierints 'use of their power in determining fairly • upon the interests of a body thee throwis upon it far proiettion.—(Hear./ Sir laosittms—The Bill of last year' in his !mind, .proinidedllle most exte n sive and beneficial inioroyeatents.* *So far from ittekng to pot an eird td titliek the Bill might - to itrMigthen the system throughout; by adriptisig a pritlielpie of tithe More equitable and rational. As todustiperation on the allude of M • ten by the Pethitte simentiOned. the Right Hon. Prietisber as well knee atteibitted the introduction of the Rill to the didhiiiin el the principles of the Speoniine or the Histaradets Club. This object of the last year's, and, *n& doubt, the lateral yeees Bitl. wets V put en end tithe hitt*. senienetinud insinsaly of the present prilfeipti of tithe hiss:' in tlyiinstillll4 of the Chiefs). in undisputed possession Of iitty yeas' put all its claim'. to reel, whilst a tenfold letitisde Oat given to' claims on the part Or.. the Chinch: • In %Id. to,gitie it title to a• • Edit, Which haired all bleary on the part . of the . 'or • 1 . • Clergy - it 'must had its • f irst. merely an objection to—althoogli lie acknowledged. that. in the s o t ote of his experience; he had never sees an Act of Parnsenerit• drawn up with a juster or more 'profound knowledge of the pithiest treated, 1101. one MOM admirably adopted to ensure the ere cation of its several provisions. He should res•-rve his objection Until s more advanced stage of the lid!, awl for the present give it the must decided support. • Mr. Lecensat conceiver! there could be tin res. Priiriolile objection to iegistate upon this subject, which had so 'alien beets the subject of legislation before.. I.iry isepsoinietore 'Slid poriphiosters were majority e n titled to •protection, as to their right'. as the 'clergy themselves. Mr. ilear.slefendert she Learned Judge, his Right Hon. Friend, from the sinputatioil of being averse to make airy alteration whatever iii the low rellitite to tithe. He had only recommeniled cootie's to the House. before they agreed lo any material altera tion iii a system which had been so csrefidly re vised and gradually matured—a caution the snore necessary, as, in his Mind, the application of the ordinary rules. respecting propriety to tithe pro petty, would be altogether inequitable. N or cou ld it he considered three was otiy'llroiler 'proof of a li tigious spirit On the part of the clergy, wlO;ii the House was assured, .from 8110114 aUtheUile Ihrt/rMS" HOU, , hit the 'norther of "suits respecting tithe, brought by the Clergy. during the lain three years, didnot sthosisit to More thanthirtyAve. Mr. Suit* 'should not propose that leave should tiot br giiren to introduce the thli,'althotigh he was apprehensive' that it would he difficult to re concile some parts of the Salto principles of sound policy. Lord CASTIAARAGII lamented his Right Hon. Friend should hirie been so far misunderstood.-- He had mile suggested the propriety' of &insider ing the queition with that elution which would be- Come the /loose when a property wart about to be touched so sacred and so enteritis' to the well-being of society. tie had not attenspted thereby to debar the Home from discoisingtherineition, Upok the present 'alit or 'the brisinesieheitilletted the house not tnainiciparte,wlert •woirld, with more propriety, be urged Olt 11.flituie 'Coulon.. • • Mr. iSaciuonisii felt, as many others had, no doribt, that . the Learned Judge appeared' diisPosed, 'from whit he had said to sfigotitise the 'Bill 'as u Bill trenching on the property of - the`Hrureh,' and should be therefbreVieired,with pecalieVinspicion. The 'state of the 'law relative.to tithe Was avowedly defective. Suppose the following ease 1-- - ; The pd. rishinnent. it mote Ornate Period of time, make' a &imposition Wills the ineutiibebt of the parish iu lieu of tithes,' to direct' liiltick they agree to give up a certain portion of their hind; to hold the reit tithe free, or grant the, their pardon • slim of money in heti tithe: Ages sittriefibeutly. the - Cieris gyman or the parish ,Godiilig that of common right he is entitled lo tithe, plarthe party or pipits upon proof *of Theirright, bY crinickeiscing k snit against the isarishinoer Ir parlshieneis; who find themselves unlade to preduce thefinserifnent, upeh the faith of whose exiUtneetheyisnd their ancestors bete iuccesi fully challetigeilthis eireMPtiosi for centiliters; aid which old piety of parcliMehtthey most produce Iros gible and eutlie:• Such was tberiettetninatien of that celebrated 'and well-known cad it Oxfoid. But the worst of all wail 'their lifter 'Ate suit was determined "emit these etniterididg fee 'the' composition, and they agreed tithe. they natniiilif enough de. Maud hick agaiti the - find or the money which was paid for the exemption by their sheeitors; whilst the Church turns•ronnd upon the deroandarit, RIM pls . 44 No. no, you cannot have beck four land sir money ; how can you prove the fact ‘ Ol'' its hearing been given for this • consideration ?" The natural o cocsetinenee of ti is (afraid , . " arrlismi inspire cc ecclesia," is, that the . psrlihioner is eons pelted' to pity the' tithe. and &moot' ger back his land or' money:—Meor.):—tliider; these circum stioces.'llo 'wotold contend the lip required no or torrietidn; and he for one should' rote tlisi lease bergiveiiiirlsfing per the Bill. Sir - Vitt.t.tall'ScOn kiptaitied.• Mr. Cusietit complainktl of the Petitions of last &Minis being 'Satiated up: with the nature of his Bin. toisire wiis then given to bring in the Bill. Sir Ssilibei, Rost t.t.irgiee notice, thin he would, on' Wertnenday next, move fin 'leave to firing in ir Bid to irpeitt - the Act of Williatit 111. rendering private stealing in ir shop felony. JCITICE * DAY. Mr. Bstittarr said; shrieks; had, in the course of last Session; Prevenied a Petition 10 Lists Judge 160,1; it 'Wits only by south Ohlititatiiiii he had been isiduied to dpi so. Iteihnidhined of im proPti curidletinthe lodge oh a triat of duel, held - befere Nitta; 'god 'of 'O4 language in bpi charge ist cousuiterst- with charketer •is R Judge. • Since that time hiller& learned . frerir serail persons Of high toosittefellon iistd reepectability, that there was no, fotindatirio Whatever for the ebergesi. He hid also had t ethirianuitidino front thk Learned Judge ' hisoself.for *hem.' he' begged !time to say, he en tertaided tfiehigheit eeepeCt. He wilts now cop ' winced that the allegations of the Petition were per &city geoundtesi,' eaid Ise'vrae happy to be able to inake•thie statemeiri. 'Ohs of the allegations was. tlir pettish tried'otis a relative of the Judge's. As to this. - be 'stated - himself. that it was not the fact. MUM,' that the relation was scarcely more than exisled meinhirs of society. Another that he had thrown difficulties in the. wiry of phicuriag the Writ ; so far froui this. it tippeired he ' had hiebeeif ideaoced money out of bki 'pricket for the pOrrooe - . Of 'proroliiiii it. ' A third was, thet ' the' je ers iadicted ups of a proweefel fetidly, and that that had been • ogre 'of favour.' He was 'ritrtheriied to eny, that davit had been no *hew ' libateter to `support" tbii. Ilk Wag' rej o ic e d to t 4 'able to or,ritir this reparation 'SO the character if that respected tw - onik sue in his power. He wen nialools it idiould be es public as pooli * !ble; sinew k dr Ate impubstiotis 'of Mile 11 tiltioit'llatt'ref • eery extesided circa's thous ' . .isase pfe 'at,the desire of the Chan tenor, issifttilVd 'VV ilatitrisitgeinst the author itfifor stankett thilk gieing the latter a right to moil the froth Of pre 'negations iii jirstificatiou. Hit reith iiiphitied the oppOrittnily to re wholly void of ground. MG • Pititik"otroaily applauded the hutioutatile Manlier 'ln which • the Ilonoorable Member had Made a 'pidle denial 'of the truth of these tin - founded elissiges: lie had not been in the louse wtiftl ter retitiou hid been presented, if hk had he • • 9 .n o s :t o . tpcs bef4.llitip ..they war ,not ends*. 4 c.1‘4 1 0 , / Mt,; as 11w 41 )9 6, ! , * If on crypi.. . V i tlittlir7•4l oll ll rwirlir. , 4.7 i p is efill if it • !hey.hight d *ON sawn iris *de. it - ,yrap iiiiposibl e e l t osi .NAM • Lord •to my .what jam:limbo* .bed I been hid before the Consnihtee. or what for.' thee iNfTlialbalt it MVP ,tilictewy w :king under their cepstpiwi• It woo pnisible that the Lam- miiitre itiii reel' the irtihn to be so full es ,to cnnble th em to .mi - n - Report satisfactory to i 'lltlenSedves iripl to thC ' niise:abif iiirisi . ..iihip,por• 'able' that thtilearters lincl o befoie . thar taught ,* ught hp !nide and ill throned. ss to induce ,heal to come heels documents !aid before them. N.p . 'w. until the Haase:mi. some of 'Atilt obi Repent of the Com- mittee wss, it was "Rite set ed the queotinn f o r th e m ." fi;n 4 . ,l ! JP, ,t ". .04t. OVIIKr . ,Itraglettibigli i 4 'ln Wit sPecrAvs.r. An *LT'' , iNo4 .6tris . . 0 the,Pan!trfr mg minch-ennt‘rwittoreihad 'l oWw.rtglitd. Ap l ,WipWcc.tp.titi.,Pe R*llo :pk.,1411 h . bkn ißgeisil 4gcrewl l 4WlM-thcrlPPill/or in. which Li e afivi.ittr 314 . 4/14 .414111.0 • f - Altbitateilt bad ,fltiltoinltentntell inail.lienin ? it Ante inttivin, al in oli other inenumes, . the r, ht the inilivirbter who peopurdthitciMitter: ill piffle. in Ski 4 • i0'1•46:. ' 1 •4 6 :. :NO 'tkUltii o'er Lk , ififtit so . . !.•',.. ( EMl- .kiers,Of ii. . u pcgdporo.;h4t,caterse. their; rd. -41ilisegi•eiti betin.2 sight In cote .nit eneh• name. ,Bit whet adrimege could 'be gAwell by this pin- MAUI!: Haw wit' it topetiur to the system 'of helletting ? The -latter *en the most proper. Cleniy 'or improprisior, it 'must be aheln to have, had da eaiiiteiice prior to the time or Richard the. Piro, "perild 01600 yeatle. Whit he aid Iskilis4ll meerly''sliigibited is a desire tie do Swat with the impression he felt wds likely to he made by thal graveilel ',Arran wa rn ing given by the Learned{ Judge of the Admiralty, to *henna, from ittlee4 medilling,with rights so sacred and generally recog-I nixed es those of the' property or the Clergy. It! was too sheltie' a proVasition to be gravely enter. mined in that Honor, dial any 'hunt hi the -tithe system militated 'spinal the interlits of Chriatlio morality, except in the our,. feelings which' set UsifrtipseintlY 'were the Comiegance of feuds and contentions between 'pastors And their flak% °pin the subjects of Migration reapeCtierg tithe By i ll, among liN4tetne . the.etikr a wawa claim a ri tof modps or.comp,editeon, the weaker it was coutro g itto Aram' .anel welpteelita 'priueivld of law el otlier cases. was uirsi Iwo ecolOreeff quid. • heat, suers the . ,distiblipg, statute of Queen firlereed gloat thief/ peen* afire Or' distolnlkoi of the , looporories by her (giber. inxpynimltqr. !VI connote' capable of alissia• . MOP, Doti) the decision of - iNCC,orpolatioti Of Ber. , weck .efiattiAed Ahe fountlatimia of chits,. as it 'hail previrmsly,stooll ; which, decisi on he &matronly he!hure .40 to reprobate, Its fully Inr its datigetroits coulequericass . , iti direa tendency was toprotek hey ieskproprirdors. es. if' they bid beets ccylesiastim. ,there, were milts Of the .1411,,1 loch though tbiMeeivet‘ he felt • • • - - - - we -