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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. DOUSE OF LORDS, TUMIDLY, JANVART 28, Lord Dux DAS took theoeths and his seat. tARE OP TUB KlT** PERSON. The 'Earl of LIVISSPIMI. moved the second read ing of the Bill for securing the safe custody of his Aliiiestv'e person. Lord 1-101.1,111 n-1 rise, ity Lords, nit nwch Co the purisise of making any objection st,ges obj-et of this Bill, as to express my opinion if what I conceive to be an inconvenience that must attend the anode of procedure now adopted. I lwr fectly agree in th‘tpropriety of confiding in his Royel Highness the tike of York the care of his af flicted pal" person ; hut I coneeire the present Bill involve tat consideretion which, on a former ',cession, wts so warm* sod, I think, sn strongly qrged itt Poll:mum% against the creating of an Ins ikeinas its inrp•rin. The principle has been wisely tistermined by 'Parliament, that the care of his Majes- At's person should be placed in other hands than Mose of the Executive, but I do not think it equally prudeot that an extensive patronage should be dis posed of in the same manner. It does not appear on the face of this Bell who Oise persons are, who shall be immediately in gie n ice upon the King; hut it yet declares that an those persons, no matter who, or how numerous, shall all be appointed or 000000000 at the tale dim:refine' of his Royal High ness the Doke of York. Would it not therefore enurehr consistent with our duty, were we to post pone tier entooderation uF that provision of the pre petit Bill, until the extent of the tostemsage lie ascer tained, until another Bill he brought in for the pur pose of regahitittg the Kiag's establishment ? I ti,e not utge the% point with u desire of Crtqltllig any 4 1 1 (fi r;i it % hear 1,,r tlw , :t ke of more regularity amid 1)1WASI011 111 the itilerllloul tel 1111'. question. The Earl of l.tryrtroot.—l hive uo objection tee exl-1 to to the Noble Lord the intentions iii the C eevrrntternt twins the subject, ohich I hope will have the 'fleet tit invalidating his objection. It is my (n a ti o n .. that whatever the extent of the esta blishment nom' he, the power over it might to rest in the hands of the Individual, whoever fie or she may lie, to whom the custody of the Royal Person shall lie tutu listed. It is fur Parliament to consider who that noltridnel shall be, and what tier extent of the establishment. The Noble Lard is right in sup posing that another Bill will be brought in, fur the purpose of regulating the King's establishment, which shall lie framed on a principle if reduction. The questions are distinct, but it is my opinion that the power over the -establishment should be discre tionary in one person, subject, of course, to the op' • of a Council. Lord HOLLAND—The Noble Earl has not met my object 1111 l , winch is altogether directed to the mode of procedure. Neither, at the same time, do 1 assent to his principle, that the entire establish ment, whatever it may he, shall he intrusted exclu sively to the hand* of an individual. Some of those 'termini who are in immediate *Residence on his Majesty are now in the appointment of certain ofh rens of State. whose rights are preserved by the very next clause in the Bill. On the former occasion, when this establishment was under the considera tion of Parliament, %VII!' persons thought it none cesssrily large and extensive, others apprm rot of it, but at the Souse time did not assent to the principle th.st sle e ts p it 1•011:1 1 /o• should be lodged in other bangle than Oils,• s , f eh , Executive. Nor was dins opinion altrivether non-stable. Bsit now, without knowing tow far the patronage may extend, for of this we ran know nothing until the other Bill he passed, eve pledge ourselves that it shall he placed without limitation in the hands of the individual having the c.rr of Isis Nl.jesty's person. We pledge our irises to 1111 alsstract principle, without knowing I lac it 'nay extend. I shall not inquire how it os 'hut those who in 1818 thought it cape die tit to maintain time expensi%e establishment at Windsssr, should in 1819 voluntarily propose a re thictuit iu it.—///ear, hear.) 'l'll, Ea 1 of Llvenroot --I think I can sati s fy the Noble Lord's objection, by reminding him that the extent of the patronage is already known; fur hoarver it may be reduced, which will rest with Patliasuriit, there can he no intention of in rea-ing it. NlOlllll l 4 enure can be granted to the Duke of York as (point personer, than belonged to her late NI ujrsty its that capacity ; but it et titling treat his liajal flightless should enjoy the some sin? !me ity , whatever may hr the extent of the establishment. If the patronage be given to the Executive, while the custody be confided to an other, it would be far more object 1111 l able in prin ciple t h an if tier Executive, possessteig the patron age, were at mice declared autos persona.. The Bull was then read a second tune, and or dered in be counmtted to.inorrow. The House then utliotirtictl. 110VSE OF COMNIONS, TUFSDAT, JANUARY 26. The SPEAKER took the Chair at half-past three o't lock this day. Mr J OILS GRAHAM presented a Petition from the Mayor of Bristol for leave to make • canal to the Solway Fritli.—Opolered to lie ou the table. Mr. FINI_AY presented a Petition Rom the Cold s I) , of Bristol, of the injury to the it trade fur want of assayers. The cfiancio:i.t.on of the EXCHEQUER Said, in the islo s enee of the Noble Secretary l'iostlereagli), be rose to apologise, ill his name, fur hi , abseloce, tool td the risme time to say, that the motion's whirl, that Noble Lord intends to make, and of s.ottee has been given in Isla mime, should he rnortrard. The first, as to tin; Wouti.•o► Es's titidintrot, he Wll% 811X101111 to 1/11/111pollie In 'l'hnrsduy %reek ; the tither inotioso, as to'the State of Prisons, to Friday week. Mr. TiERNEY said, that to obviate all difficulty as to the manner in winch he intended to proceed, Itr woold distiottly state to the House the plrcior nature 4.f the motion he intended to make. that a Contnintre might be appointed To inquire into the oth-cts of the Batik Reatuction Bill on the orreory nod txchatige of the country. Having ISM be di.charged ling set 01 candour, he 111111111 111:1t the Hight Ilonourable Gentleman (dm l'hatiellur of the Eschequhr) would be equally etplieit, and if it was his intention to move an amendment ► he hoped he would now state the na ture of that amendment. The ChAntitt.r.on of the FicHruußn said, it was impossible for him to Roy what amendment he would move, ignorant sti he wa. of the manner in which the Rt. lion. Genileipm who spoke last would treat the subject. lithe Rt. Hon. Gentleman should adopt his opinions, he would not move any amend ment; bat until he heard the Rt. Hon. Gentleman, it wa. impossible for' him to say what amendment he should think it ►ight to move. RANK AFFAIRS. Mr. GREurrbi. said, 1w had often before ad ! dressed the House on the subject to which he was about to allude—a subject of deep interest, which demanded all the wisdom of the House. Notices, lie said, had been given of different motions since the opening of the Session, connected with the question he was about to submit to their consider,- tins. The first was from his Hon. Friend (Mr. Twritey)—the second from a Right Hon. Gentle man on the other side—and notice was given by an Holt. and Learned Friend of his (Sir J. Mackin 'tosh), whom he saw in his place, on the subject of the fabrication of Bank notes—an inquiry of deep !while interest in every way that it can he considered—interesting as it affects national credit, and doubly interesting as it affects the happiness. the character, and the morals of the people. It would, he said, be of course extremely ill-timed in him to enter into a subject which happily was in the hands of men so capable of treating it with superior knowledge and ability it was not his intentiou. The papers which he would move for were for an object on which lie would say one or two words. Ile was, he said, willing to address himself to Gentlemen then in the House, mid who were not there before. He wish ed to state, that the only object he had in view in calling the attention of Parlia►nent to the subject was, t n 'hew that the Corporation of the Bank of Eng land had, during a period °let years, accumulated an ellornions mass of wealth at the expense of the witl t the performance of any public ser vice that could have entitled theta to that exclusive benefit—that they had accumulated wealth doting ■ shorter period, aud to a greater amount, than any body of men had been ever able to do, in any bank ing or commercial country, since honking or com merce had been established in the world. The first great benefit this Corporation enjoyed flowed directly from the Batik Restriction Bill, an Act which was host passed in the year 1797, and from that period down to the itresem, comprising a Plaice of twenty-two years, the Batik of England has been relieved from the neces►ity of paying in cash, and has therefore been exonerated from the per formance of its pecuniary engagements. For these twenty-two years, twenty-four merchants of the city of !Ando'', as the Directors of this Corpo ration, had, without t heck and without control, the power, the unlinked power of issuing a forced pa per currency on the country, for their own exclu sive benefit. The public do not participate in any way in the advantage derived from this establish ment ; and this Corporation. uncontroled ■nd un limited, had the power of issuing notes to any amouta, without any expense to them but the trif ling expense of paper and the payment of their clerks. There was, lie should add, one other item nn their ex p enditure —one, lie supposed, of consi derable atar.uut , from the frequency of the case— lie 'want the thousand prosecutions carried on by the Bank, from one extremity of the kingdom to the other, against those unhappy wretches who are almost every hour brought to the bar of criminal justice, on the charge of forging notes. This prac tice had of bete years been carried to so alarming an extent, as to c;.II forth from every quarter the loud est a 00000 nurs of disapprobation—it forced itself upon the attention of Parlaament, and demanded an im mediate inquiry. The next great 'Nonce of profit and advantage to the Batik was floe enormous extortions which they have committed in their various contracts with the Govertimelit. By means of their exclu sive credit, the Corporation of the Bank has been enabled to meet the wants of the Minister, but they have done so on terms enormous and highly injurious to the country. These matters, he said, had beets frequently mentioned—they have been met on the part of the Batik, sometimes by asser tion, often in silence, and never by disproof, lie concluded by moving for— " Accounts of the total weekly Amount of Bank Notts and Hank Post Bills in circulation, from the Ist of Janu ary, 1818, to the 25111 of hominy, 1819; distinguishing the Bank Post Bills, and distinguishing the amount of Notes under the rains of Five Pounds, and slating the aggregate amount of the whole." " Of the Amount of Bank Notes in circulation on the 7th and 17111 of each month, front January, 1818, to Janu ary, 1819, !soils inclusive; distingnishing the Bank Post Bills, and the amotiut of Notes under Five Pounds, and swill the aggregate amount or the whole. 4 ' " Of the highest and lowest aggregate Amount of Hank Notes, incholnig those of every kind, at any one lime in cir culation, Cum the Ist of January, 1818, to the 2hth of Jann ars, 1819, 6.01.1.13 s inclusive; specifying the date of every such amount, and distinguishing the amount of Bank Post Bills, and that of Notes above or !silos, the value of Five Kneads, of which it is composed ; also an Account of the highest and low. st Amount of each separate kind of Notes at say one tone In esicillation, for the same period, specify ing MIA distinguishing as before." la Of the weekly amount of Bank Notes in circulation of the value of Five Pounds and less, from the lst of .1 y, 1818, to the 2bili of January, 1819, boils inclusive; distin guishing the amount of Notes of Five Pounds, and of Two Pounds, null One Pound." Of the :41arket Prices of Standard Gold in Bars, of Por tugal Gold in Coin, Standard Silver in Hors, and Spanish Dollars, or l'illnr Pieces of right, with the Count, of Ex chiller with Ilatnburgli, Lisbon, and Paris, from the Ist of January, HIS, to lite'2so. of January, 1819." ' 6 (►f the B31111)(441 of Cash in the hand, of the Bank of England, on the Ist mid 15th day. of earls month between 11w lot of January and 1511, of December, 1818, inclusive, resulting from paynreuls lender 11w head of Customs, and of all other branches of she Public Perrone, stating the aver. ■ge Melanin.' of the year, made up from the paid dayo." Of she Balances of Cash is. the lands of the Bank of England, on the lot and 15i1, days of earls month, between the Ist of January and 15.11 of December, 1818, inclu sive, resulting front the Poot.ilaster.Generars A Oh ihr Bank, pitons( the average Balance of the year, mode up from the said day..." Of she Dclanees of Cash in the hands of the Bank of England ion ilir lit mad 15.1. drays of • acts month between the lot of Jaimary and the 1511, of Dceemlier, 1818, Melo sive, belonging to the different Departments of she Governs meal, including the Balm ees of the Accountant-General of the Court of Chancery, and staling the average Balance of the year, made up 'Nom the said days." "Of all usher Public Balances not particularly specified in the three preceding Accounts with the Bank of England on the Ist of January, 1819; distinguishing the amount under each bend respectively, sad stating the aggregate Smuunt of the whole." " Of the total Amount of Unclaimed Dividend*, including Lottery Prizes, In Ilse hands of the Rank on the Ist an 4 15th days of every month in the year ISIS Inclusive ; distinguish ing the Unclaimed Dividends from Lottery Prism sad mat ing the average Balances of both in the year, made up from the said days." " (If the Exchequer Bills and Bank Nudes deposited by this Governor and Company of the Bank of England, as Cash, is the Chests of the four Tellers of his Majesty's Re ceipt of Exchequer, on the Id of January, 1818, and on every 28th day ruhsequent to that period, dow• to the Ist of January, MIS •' distinguishing the amount of all such Rank of EuglandlSotes as exceeded in value (One Thousand Pounds each, known at the Exchequer under the title of Smelt! Notre, and stating the average Balances of the year, made sip trom the said days." "Of all Allowances made by the Public to the Rank, or charged by the Bank against the Public, exclusive of the charge for the management of the Public Debt, for transact. Mg any Public Service In the year ISIS ; describing the nature of the services, and the amount charged thereon in the said year, and including the soma paid to the Dank under the denomination of Charges of Management." "Of the Advances made by the Bank of England to Go vernment on Lind and Malt Exchequer Bills, and all other securities, on the lath of January, 19th of April, 10th of July, and 10th of October, 1818, and on the 10th of January, V. 19 ; distinguishing the various heads under which such advances have been made." " Of the Bank Notes in circulation on Saturday night• in each week, from the 1.1 of January, 1818, to the 25th of January, 1819 ; distingnishing the Bank Pied Bills, and dis tinguishing the amount of Notes under the value of Five Pounds, and staling the aggregate amount of the whole." lie also moved for— " An Account of the Number of Sovereigns and Half. Sovereigns tooled from the Bank of Euglaud, in the year 1818 ;" " Also an Account of the Gold Coin issued from the Mint, in the course of the year ISIS, distinguishing the Sove. reigns and Half-Sovereigns, and stating the aggregate amount " Alru for an Account of the Silver Coin issued from the Mint, in the year 18111, distinguishing the Crowns, Half. Crowns, Shillings, aad Sixpence., and stating the aggregate amount)' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he would not oppose the motion of the Hon. Gentle man. He would, however, suggest, that instead of moving for an account of the issue of sovereigns, half-sovereigns, and of silver, for the year 1816 —that an account should be moved for up to the present time, of the total amount issued by the Bank. Mr. GRENTELL consented to this alteration, and the motion was put and carried accordingly. THE GAME LAWS. Mr. BaAND said he would not trouble the House with any observations on the motion which he was about to make. It was for an account of the per sons convicted of offences against the Game Laws in England and Wales for the last year, distin guishing those convicted under the Act of the 57th Geo. 111. chap. 90, and specifying the different sen tences pronounced under the same. After a few words from Mr. BECKETT it was ordered. CORN LAWS. Mr. CALLAGHAN made a variety of observations (which were but imperfectly heard in the gallery) as to the state of the Corn Trade, and the operation of the Corn Laws, which he described as attended with the best consequence., and as affording great encouragement and protection to the agricultural interests. The Honourable Gentleman said, that notwithstanding those laws various irregularities and differences existed in the returns of the quantity of grain imported into various ports, and he concluded by moving for an account of the amount of wheat, barley, and flour, imported into England and Ire land for the year ending sth January, 1819; and also for an account of the qoantity imported into the maritime counties in England and Wales for the same period. Mr. Rout IqSON said the House would excuse him from entering into the topics touched on by the Honourable Member who just sat down. lie did not know how it was possible to prevent the occa sional occurrence of errors in the manner of mak ing the Returns alluded to by the Hon. Gentle man ; but he was of opinion those errors were by no means of the extent which he seemed to think. The Hon. Genticinan admitted that many of his statements respecting the Returns he mentioned, were not perhaps capable of demonstrative proof. With respect to the error which was committed in the Glamorganshire average, it was occasioned by the Inspector's having omitted to reduce the local cus tomary measure in his district, from the amount of the Winchester measure, in striking the average. The Hon. Gentleman had alluded to the difference between the prices of oats in Suffolk and Lincoln shire, but lie knew that in the latter the prices were always below the general average in other dis tricts. He had no objection to the motion of the lion. Gentleman, particularly as he understood from him that he did not mean to ground upon it any ulterior proceeding. The motion was then put from the Chair, and agreed to. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that, in obedience to the opinion already expressed by the House, in referring the Speech of the Lords Commissioners to a Committee of Supply, he rose now to move, that the House du resolve itself into the said Committee. It was not his intention, on the foment occasion, to propose any specific grant; he merely meant to make the ordinary motion. On the question being put from the Chair, that the House do resolve itself into a Committee of Supply— S:r ROBERT WILSON rose and said, that, as new Member, anxious to address the House on the present occasion, I.e had to entreat the indulgence which, in their courtesy, was granted under such circumstances ; he therefore trusted they would grant him, who stood so much in need of their courtesy, all the indulgence winch it was usual to bestow on a new Member. He was afraid that some of the observations which he should think it his duty to snake on the motion now before the House, would not elicit for him much of the appro. bastion of even the Gentlemen whom he considered as his political friends; and sure he was that none of his observations would receive the approbation of other Gentlemen high in place in that House. From the latter be could expect nothing but severe noimnilversion—he could expect nothing else from men who, knowing the state of public aftitirs, and .the whole interests of the nation and its difficulties, should yet, by the adoption of every species of fallacy and delusion, by every breach of promise, still emotion and carry on a ruinous system of finance, to the ultimate destruction of the ge nuine interests and mesas of the country, and merely content themselves with the consolation, that the evil may be prevented from bursting in all its horrors upon the people, until the deathly or their own adniiiiistration was sealed, and until they were themselves removed from the fine of feeling theft:its which they had entailed upon their country. He did not mean to offer the observation. lie hail to make in the House as if he were a (11:411 cheaply versed in the arithmetical calculations of a rev,rul.ir financier ; lie had only to state that he derived the little information he had tit such topics from the books and statements of able men, some of whom were Members of that House. If he drew his in formation of the general state of the country from the heavy amount of Poor's Rates, if lie drew it from the list of insolvent debtors, from the dread ful hat of criminals, or the alarming amount of the list of hankropts—if he drew it Ilona any or these sources, he had still before him the dreadful result of a nearly ruined people. He was fully aware that the detail* of the finances of a country like this must necessarily be of much intricacy, but without troubling the House with the varirms reasons which operated upon his mind, from the best information he could command, he sl Id merely assert his perfect conviction that it was a matter of utter im possibility for the people of this country to pay the expenses which must necessarily botch to the due niaintemince of the authorities of Government, and at the same time contribute to the liquidation of those charges which were necessary to meet the interest of the eight hundred millions of the unre deemed national debt, which a series of bed go vernment had entailed upon it. lie was iististied that it was impossible to pursue the pre-ant syatem with any thing like an ultimately benefiejal effect. %Vhy then was the property of the country—why were its resources for successive generations to be mortgaged in so vain is hope ? It would take, at.- cording to the present plan of ministerial financiers, not less than 1,300 millions every thirty years to pay the interest alone, without redeeming a single shilling of the debt itself. He knew well that a great deal had been said, and was still expected from the returns of the sums paid ill the shape of interest into the general mass of national property. He was ready to give as much force as it deserved to the reoperative powers of money, 4'106 so passed and repassed throughout the channels of in ternal wealth ; but he thought there wars a great difference between the operation of that revenue. which was raised through its own unforced natural channels, and that which was oppressively raised, and which then passed through the absorbent strainers of a corrupt and extravagant Government, before it was suffered to drop again into any channel of national wealth. When the financial concerns of other coun tries had fallen into a state of dilapidation, means were taken to recruit their strength and re-establish their energies by the reduction of national expel). diture, and the alteration of such fiscal laws as the state of the times required. In such a state of things the body politic improved its health, and displayed an ameliorated appearance. In the other state, where no such recruiting means were applied, its appearance became sunken, emaciated, and ex pressive of its decay and unhealthiness. The state of the poor of this country showed, iii full force, the health of the State. When it required eight millions annually to administer to the wants of an industrious poor, what most be thought of the state of such a country ? This is, by many, attri buted to the increase of the population of late years; but did not the fruits of the earth keep pace with this increase? There were many other causes, and they were causes of a political nature. He thought, in plain fact, that the Ministers of this country had brought it into such a state, that the question was not , whether the Batik would re• new its cash payments or its Restriction Act, but whether a state of insolvency should not at once be looked forward to and prepared, which, while it relies!. ed the intolerable berdeis that bears down the national resources, would yet press with thee least possible prejudice to existing institutions, and the landed in terest of the country. He certainly could not see how this could be done without the greatest sacri fices, or even how it were impossible for the Minis ters, who had so terribly involved the country, to attempt the experiment of relieving it in the way which the state of the people rendered most eligible. He would further say, that if the country were at this moment called on to make sacrifices, it was impossible to make them with any effect or chance of relief, while the Government was conducted without a real attention to effectual retrenchment and economy. In such imbecile hands, if the means of the country were again re-established, so as to place its affairs in a flourishing condition, the very state of prosperity would by such men be converted into an eventual ruin for the country : they would return to the old system, the evils of which were now so bitterly felt by the country. There would be an armament equipping to put down the republican spirit of liberty, which the South Americans were IDOW struggling to establish ; there would be another for the support of the Be loved Ferdinand in the Old World, to enable him to put to the sword the patriots in his mien country, who resisted his tyranny mid op pression. l'here would be an expedition to In dia, to subjugate all the independent States, to check and divert all the native channels of revenue, and occupy all the territories which covered the face of the earth between the Indus used the Caspian ; there would be another war to devastate France, and support the Holy Alliance. America and Africa would have also their share of the military protection of the English Ministers, and all the blessed advantages which would result from it. The power to wring resources, stanch invested Ministers with the means of inflicting so much wile-spread ing evil, he would not delegate to any hands with out a more adequate cheek and better regulated system of expenditure than appeared to him to sub aist at this moment.,. He would not allow the same power of remortgaging the existing encumbrances of die nation to ally Inc.,, however high may be their character, much less, indeed, would he to the turn who at present wielded such a portentous privilege. He would not consent to grant it even to those men he held most dear—who set the brilliant example of surreittleinig • 1, , :1 . 11 ti i : r e o p tu o i7a r o publicp i r l i i i m w e ii n ,i t e s_of in o e ffi n c w e i , m r . st i l lai e dr the rvissained in office, would have saved the crionsry the al weight of taxes which now oppressed ns means and pitralyted its resources, and In,. %sloth it could only boast the pride of military glory sorry consolationi for such sacrifices, for it %di !lA.,' Which every country, small or large, settled or cud. notated, had its its time the occasional advantag e .4 enjoying—sod it was that, for the abuse of wring ' so muds misery had at different periods of world been inflicted upon mankind. Ile not give this power even to the men who, had retained their places, would have saved this r a „„ - _ try she disgrace of being governed by investor.. which spies and informers could alone carry effect, to the sitter ruin of all conliddiode h e twee', mass and man ins free country, and to sh, disi,race of the Legislators who reacted them —h e would not consent to vest such power with in.rl who would have spared the nation the alliance of spies and informers, to co-operate us minute:mice of its internal tranquillity-1w wriaLl not yield it to mess who would have abstained ho rn doing what Nlinisters had criminally done, who would have done what they had criminally ief_ undone—he would not give it to mess who odooll be ready to cuter upon a Reform of 1' irliamelit. which, without route:ll/cuing the great principles the Revolution of the year Itiiso, would give tioot extension of the elooctive franchise ishis:h wont; satisfy the pretensions of rational morn in a fr ee country, and would remedy that gross isiequali:-: in the state of the representation of the people, which was observable when the Nlembets for ow county (we believe Cornwall) advanced to th e table to put ios their qualifications. Ile meant to cast no reflection 4/II the particular NI told/erg while he alluded to the principle of their sp. pointmei.l. He repeated, he would not delegate a power so coopable of abuse to mei, who stood pledged to a full, fair, and free representatio n of the people. lie Was glad that a Right 11 , ,[1. 1' alrpd of his (Mr. Tierawy) had given looter of a motion on the subject of the financial concerns at' th« COuntry ; he was glad that another HMI. Friend meant to apply himself to the correction of Ord system which generated a practice of blood, and maintained the sanguinary execostoos of laws against the expressed feelings of the country and the admitted inefficacy of their operitimi. meant conclusion to oppose, bust not to einbar. rasa his Majesty's Government in the regular order of their business, and he hoped the general obser ations he had made were not irregularly intro- duced on the present motion. Lord GLERAWLEY said, he did not rise to quar rel with the Hots. Member in the expressoon of his political sentiments, though he must dissent from Ins statement of what he called facts. The li(t. nourable Member asserted the amount of the us. tional debt to he eight hundred millions. 1 , 1 making this calculation he seemed to Iwo tint the redeemed part had reduced the debt to five or six hundred willows. The Honourahle Mem ber ;smiled most unfairly in throw an odium nod a burden on Government which they had no right to be called upon to bear. How was it possible for them to avoid the expenditure which was com plained of; wises they were imperatively called upon to make great exertimia, which ultimately established the glory of the country and the peace of the world ! Had the hiconie Tax beets continued, the einbardassiueuts now so loudly declaimed against would have been by this time put upon a different footing. The House then resolved itself into a Committee of Supply, when, on the motion of the CHANCEL LOR of the EXCHEQUER, it was resolved " That a Supply he granted to his Majesty." The House then resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow. DOCTOR O'HALLORAN'S CASE. Sir STAIR MARTIN rose, sod expressed his regret that he was not present last alight when an Hon. Member opposite (Mr. Bennett) hod presented a Petition from a certain convict, styled Doctor O'Halloran. The statements an that Petition, and in the speech of the Hon. Member who presented it, had, he understood, made a great impression upon the House, and he hoped that, as he'll at the heed of the Department of the Transport Boirei that regulated the vessels in which convicts were embarked, he would be allowed this opportunity of removing the wrong impression which he understood was made in the House last night.—(Lead cries of Hear.j—l-Ind he been present last night, he should have felt it his duty to have moved that the Petition alluded to be referred to the Board which managed this department of the public service. He was told that the Hon. Gentleman had aminadverted with great force upon the mortality which he desenbed as characterising the mode it, which convicts were conveyed to Botany Bay. Now an far from this being the fact, he held m his hand a document, winch altogether refuted this statement of mortality; and lie' remeinlwreel, long before the lost cooticts were shipped, to have mentioned the fact to Lord Melville, with much satisfaction, as it redounded to the credit of the whole arrangements under the superintendence of his own Board. With the leave of this House he would read the doi•ument to which lie olluded.—(liear, hear, hear.)—Since the Ist January, 1816, 6,4U9 convicts have been shipped. and of this number only 53 died on the passat.te ; the mortality was, there:lore, at the rate of lox in 112. If. as the Hon. Gentleman had state I. the convicts were stowed and crowded to ether ni the most noxious and unwholesome manner, was it likely that such a state of health would have kern preserved as the vtliemeni lie made verified '— (hear, heur.)—The Hon. Member had also soul. that six convicts were crientmeil into a space of six feet in breadth for their sleeping birth. Ti“. was not the fact ; for the space allotted for the convicts' sleeping birth was equal in bie.olth for each m ta to that assugued to the sailor air soldier on hoard the same vessel.—/!fear, hear, hear.)—lt was in fact larger than that allowed to men in his Nlas jrsty'a service. He hail Moist-if, when at been very well satisfied with the same breadth, miff he hail two sons now who made no complaint cl having no greater s'eciting rienit allowed then. There were men wa i n hail been 35 years at sea, lilt who never hail a , „tortster simer In lie its, and who yet eiijoyed excellent health ia this sitilattoo.— (liear, hear.)—He would titcv read recent Trio its 01 the arrivals in Botany I; ay, which would set the b ;t p 0 ~~ It