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wrguing that it was fair that a libeller, twice con victed, should sutler for lite second offence severer penalty than the laws held out for the first, aid observed, with respect to the 14W empowering Magistrates to search for arms, that the principle tiny not different from .that of a Bill which a few }ears sen was adopted for the suppression of Lud dism. The security was required from printers and publishers, that there should be some responsible person to whom resort might he had in cases of offence, for, without such a provision, measures the htst arranged might be rendered practically abor-. Some conversation then arose across the table respecting the appoiiiiiiiesit of the night for the se cur .d reading of these Bills. Lord LIVERPOOL sug• greed, and it was filially agreed, that the Bill serainst dolling and training, and the Bill empower iog Magistrates to search for areas (as l'seing of the most urgent necessity), should be read a second tune on Thursday. That the Lord Chancellor's Bill for taking away traverses, in cases of misde• inevoors, should he wail a second time on Friday, :tool that the Libel Bill should stand for Monday 10111. 'rhe Bills before the Muse were then read %ewe silly a lirrt time, and ordered for second reading.. Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MUNDAT, Novraisaft 29. COLONIAL RETURNS. I • * 41. LOYAL PLTITION. On the motion of Mr. HOME, after a few prefa tory observations, indicating that the present appli ciflon was in some degree Aar to one which he Isst Ses►ion, several Accounts were ordered to Ise laid before the House, explanatory of the Civil and Military Expenses, the Revenues, the Emu'''. tnetsts of Officers, Ik.e. in the Colonies of Ceylon, the Mauritius, the Cape of Good Hope, Malta, Go . Li, and the adjoining Colonies, as well as thug of St. Helena and Heligoland ; together with the Accounts of the sums paid over and above their revenues, for the expenses of the said Colonies, specifying the items us well iss aggregate amount during the last two Sears for staff and other ap pointments ; also Accounts ►hewing the civil ex penses of what are called the King's Colonies, which tisse not the benefit of the British law, and where tie inhabitants form no legislative body to manage their financial expenditure. PUBLIC DEBT OF GREAT BRITAIN AND IRELAND. On the motion of the same Hon. Member, Ac- counts were also ordered, ',hewing the amount of the • Deht of Great Britain and Ireland, sr it stood at the beginning of the year ISI9, with the unioriiit of the total uurederused debt, and the in t.—c,t due thereon. PENRYN ELECTION. Sir CHARLES BURRELL give notice, that on' l'o e orlsy se'nnight he would move for leave to I.••!o, , . in a Bill for the better prevention and pu. risbment of bribery and corruption in the borough l'enryn. MiSr!EPRESENTATION IN A MORNING PAPER. (NOT IN THIS ) Mr. STUART WORTLEY rose to correct a misre pte•eutation of his speech oil Tuesday last, whitrh Fad been made in one of the Morning Papers. (The lion. Member did not name the Paper, but i•e mistake slid not occur in this Journal.)—He stated to have said that one of tin• Resolutions, .elecii bad been passed at a Reform Meeting in Leeds last September, plainly pointed at a parti tion of the property of Earl Fitzwilliam, in York iltire. Now lie said no such thing respecting the Leeds Meeting. What he did say was, that a Re- Nub:flint of that import did certainly pass in a greeting held in one of the Ridings in Yorkshire, hut that the particular none of the place he did rot recollect. " Having the strongest opposition to the Radicals, and believing them to be the very worst enemies to the liberties of the countty— Ilear, hear/-1 sin particularly anxious that my oppoeitiun to them should be firm and decisive, and strictly confined to facts and not misrepresenta tiona."—(Heur, hear.) The SPEAKER--" Does the Hon. r make any proposition to the House ?" Mr. STUART WORTLEY replied in the negative, observing, Ins only object was to correct a inisre prerentation. CAMELFORD ELECTION._ Mr. D. gave notice, that he would to-morrow submit a motion to the House, for the iiro.e of preventing the Speaker from inning his tt vista for electing a new Nlemiter for the Borough t.ft'ainelford, which he would do, as the notice of I :.; S-tisinu now stood, ten days after the meeting of titiment. until fresh evidence were uttered, and si Helmet made thereupon. CARELESS DRIVING or STAGE COACHES, Sce. dtr. AI. A. l'Alchoit gave notice, that early in the Sertlion (ther the Christmas rice..) he would submit measures to the Douse for the better pre vention of accidents in stage couches, and fur the more effectual puuntliment of the thriven, whose arrlo , . or wilful conduct occasions them; also for the better management of steam-engints and fur nice+ in the metropolis; and further, a measure for the better artarigrinent of the Appellant Jurisdic torn in the House of Lords. BANK NOTES. On the motion ut dlr. ti&LNFELi., Accounts we• e ordered of the total weekly issues of Bunk• N tArs and Post Bills from the Bank of England.' trot,' the 29th of June in tl:e present year, to the _tli.• of November, distil guishing those under the of 51. anti speetfyil.g the aggregate amount ol Li e whole. Mr. MFl.Listi piesristrd a Petition front the Vie 3r. Churchly/rulers, and other inhabitants of • Sr. Pancras. expressive of their loyalty dud attach to the ennstitution.and also of the aldiot fence with which Ilir) v.eortl the seditious and which have been recehtly un through toe country. and calhog upon rlf••• I , 33letit to desire stiemisures to Olt down bitch itu• 011114 attempts to create popular delusion. .1 . 1:e Petition was load on the table. AFFAIRS t.►F MANCHESTER._ _ • Mr. ETT role t 0 preSila a l'etilion from a nun:tier of respectnhie Merchants, ;%lailufacturero, 'awl Traders, residing in the town• of 3lanchr►ter, Sia,ord, and the neighbourLoutt, pr.iyisig for an tilloiry luta the offence of the Hid) of August. This Petition s ha had the beat reason fox believing, *di .4 ..," . . contained the sentiments of a great majority or the inhabitants of that neighbourhood. It dwelt at some length npon the extent as well as the cause of the existing evils among the people, and attributed their origin to the wont of a Parliamentary Reform. The Petitioners gave • detailed description of the prevention of the intended meeting at Manchester on the 9th August. and also of the dispersion of that held on the IGth. The Ilan. Member ob served, that he had read an account, taken from the short-hand writer's notes, of the evidence given be fore the Coroner at Oldham, and in it he had Serll an account of the facia sworn to by eight or tell respectable iiitlividuals—facts which most strongly called for farther investigation and inquiry. Though he was not, like the Noble Lord opposite (Castle reagh). hold etiongli to declare, that what be hail heard frutu others were established facts, yet he had every reason to give credence to what had been sworn to by so many persons who were represeuted as of respectability. From a perusal of the evi dence before the inquest, he could also say, that were lie to sum up the whole of it, it would be very easy to reconcile the apparent contradictions in parts of the testimony given by different wit oesses, and to 1 1 hew that those seeming differences could not impeach the truth of their general statements. that the conduct of the militioy was cruel in the extreme. The Petitioners stated, that they had done as much as in their power lay to to put the whole matter in a train of proper inquiry. They had first applied, but Pi vain. to the Grand June's (institutiolis of which Mr. Bennett spoke in terms of the warmest panegyric), ❑ext to the Magistrates, who refused to enter into the inquiry, and how to Parlia ment, the Grand Inquest Of the nation. The lion. Member warmly enforced the necessity of allaying the ferment that so unhappily prevailed throughout the country, by an inquiry into the affiir at Man chester—an inquiry which every good man must wish to press upon the consideration of Ministers, for the satisfaction of an irritated people.-- ( Hear.) . - - On the question that the Petition he brought up, Sir R. Wilms? rose, and said, that bring in structed to support the tamper of this Petition he had a few words to offer to the House. His opinion of the necessity of inquiry, instead of being changed, was rendered still mere strong after reading the whole of the evidence given before the Coroner, the whole of the papers laid before the House : and hearing all the counter statements made in Parlor merit, and which formed a 'tort of bill of indicts merit against the people of Menehester. He denied, from all he could collect, that the people assembled on the Ifith August vi et armis to oppme the military or the Magistrates, or that they offered any resistance in the first instance to the cavalry, except that which was unavoidable from the nature of the dense body they formed. The civil power did net precede the military in their advance to the host. lugs, so far as he could judge from the facts di.. closed before the Coroner, nor did they attempt to make way for them in the odvance. if any request. Linn to that effect had lwen made, there was every reason to believe the people would have complied with it. Mr. Hunt land stated, that if he hid been apprise% I of their object, ;re should have called on the people to ii3rtt made way for the rival power, and have instantly surrendered many warrant in the hands of a peace officer; indeed Mr. Horst ex. ready said so when arrested on the hustings, and when he called fur a constable and refused to sur render to military authority. Whether the yeo manry had acted with temper—whether they had uthaticed into the mixed throng with proper caution and preceded by the civil authorities, were proper points of inquiry; as well also as the fact of a cuu stable, and a woman and child, being killed on the advance of the yenmunry to the hustings, and the subsequent occurrence of the cutting down of art old man who supported himself on • crutch. Whatever encomiums had been bestowed upon par. ticular officers who were engaged in t'se unhappy events of that day, there were facts which wore a most extraordinary aspect—for instance, the cutting at a malt near the busting'. supposed to be John Lees, who was proved before the Coroner to have been struck by the sabres of several persona who were particularly designated. Also respecting the sharpening of the swords, he contended that nothing had occurred to overthrow the statement that they were repaired for the occasion.—(Loud coughing from the Ministerial Beaches.)—Gentleiorn might cough, but he pledged himself to substantiate fits assertion if they would go into an inquiry. The name who was employed to sharpen them was Deniel Kennedy, a cutler. In his examination, he used the following words: 4 On the 17th July 1 had done (that is sharpened) 63 swords, and more at a subsequent time previous to the 16th August." He had, after he had done the first set. received orders to sharpen them well, and he did them. to use his own expression's, 44 very well." On being asked, 44 were swords ever brought before to you to be sharpened ?" he answered, " occasiotially to be cleaned, never sharpened." On being asked wine. tiler the swords brought to him on the 176 July particularly wanted repairs, lie said, that some wanted repairs. hot they were generally left to be sharpened. He (Sir Robert) wanted ant inquiry, to see if these atutements could be disprosed ; but as there was nn likelihood of an inquiry iu that House, no chance of it iu the heated state of the county of Lancaster, ne really could not but think -.lie state of the country alarming. Tine people saw deputy coroner refuse to convene ill inquest on a particular day, because he had to sup iii a neigh bouring village; they saw the same person, when the inquest sat, guilty naafi indecency which could not be described in that House (we believe the allu sion was to his hating put himself in • certain attitude towards' Mr. Harmer) ; when they saw air. other coroner refuse to hold air inquest under par ticular circumstances; and when they saw .27 per. sons arrested, detained in custody eleven weeks. and subsequently discharged without airy charge being produced against them, it was impossible for them nut to feel that the county of Lancaster was, in its present state. out of the pale of the law. He was bound by no party ties to any particular side of the House, but it was Impossible for him to look at the present state of the country and not attach himself to that party who loudly demanded iiiquiry into the causes of the emoting coloututtes. An Honourable Nletuher, whose name we could Hot learn, replied to tilt last speaker, arid stated that on the subject of sharporing the swords lie drew a very different conclusion from that wh i ch he had attained. Admitting the swords were sharpened in the manner described. where was the er ?on the contrary. he thought it extremely proper that the swords should have hero sharpened. when it wss clear, and known in the country, that the people were preparing to attend the Msut•hrstrr meetiog with pikes end pistolo.—( heur.)— The Commandant of a ye ttttt *my rorp*, finder smelt circiiinstatices. was bound to inquire into the state of the signs of his men, mid have them put into an effective state for service.—(Meur. Aenr.)— With respect to the statements ;rpm) oath before the. Coroner, so much relied on, lie hail no Isra:. taiton in stating his di.be lief of them; he would nut believe the evidence of persons who w,re pnilwed (as mitly of them weicl in the stream of im piety and blasphemy that flowed through that part of the contitry—what obligation had the Banc. City of an oath upon men of that description ? akar. —llle recollected that last Session. when in a case respecting transports the assertions of the Hon. Member opposite (Mr. Bennett) were met by official document., that Unn. Member declared hr recollected en wpiniew of who ►aid, there were tenses in which he would tint believe whit was called pu•ittve evidence monist the stroll cantle of probabilities, when oppo.eil to it. Ile woatd use the lion. Member's own repression against him now, and ssy lie would slot believe that any members of a corps•of yeomanry, rosy, any arm in this kingdom, even the infamous wretch Cathie himself, would wantonly am( deliberately cut floWll s woman. 'flits lie never would beliere.— (Ilear.4 _ . . The Petition was then read. It contained a liar. rative of the pariiculArs of the meett..g at .7.1 a ,chea ter, and olds dispersion, together nit la a prayer tor ■n inquiry into the affair, and also fur u better re preseistatiou of the people in Parliament. It was laid on the table and ordered to be printed. Air. BOOTLE WILDIL•HASt repeated Ins tiros conviction that the statetuedots he had made than OHCC since Parloadueist met respecting the IMatichester business, would eventually prove the correct details of the different facts.— ( Hear, hear) He also declared his opinion, that the speeds of the gallant General (Sir Robert IVilson) was cal culated to leave an impression not home out by the actual occurrences of the 16th of August. The gallant General bed insinuated that fresh orders bad been given respecting the sharpening of the swords after their first delivery to the cutler. Now this he denied—for if any order were give°, it must have been respecting those swords that through neglect were not sent in ut first. Mr. BENNETT complained of the harsh and un qualified censure bestowed mum the witnesses be• fore the Coroner, winds lie thought as unwise as it was unjust, and particularly when apploll to a large body of mess, of whom perky* Honour able Members who used those censures knew littl e or nothing. He could speak flout his own know. ledge of one of the witnesses Itrfort , tilt Coroner, • witness whom he knew to be of a calm, sober, reel gious turn of mind, and who last Session came to town oil a ulolaothroioc jourory, to :gairtiorate the cooditioss of the poor children to t he cotto!l-factori.o. The lion. Member, whose name we were unable to learn, arid in explanation, that one of the persons who spoke almost the yertons:ory .before the in quest wog a party ilactolpatro, and therefore little to be attended to, for lie admitted that he had marched up to the ineetiorg from Leeds wi h a large body of men.—(Hear.) MR. HUNT'S PETITION. Mr. Alderman %Voot Goal, that in compliance with a itquest which had bees male of hunt, he had to present a Petition, cbmplaining of the conduct of the Alunostrates at Manchester, of the Grand Jura*, and more particularly of h+► Majesty's Nli tasters.— (Hear, lieur.)—The Petition was armor pawed by five affidavits, which had been tendered 111 a Court oh Ji!eke. but not read, ay the ptiviy olrerint; them was not a professional tarn.—/A cry of " Nome him!")—The worth♦ Alderman said, the mane of the Petitioner was [friary Hunt—l 4 laugh )—oild he stated that he was prepared to prove at their bar, by his own testiatiouty, and the corroboration of it by men of the ti , st respecta bility. and uutconueeied with the Radicals, that the statement* in the Papers laid 011 the tattle of the Home were OitaLle. The Petition, which went over the whole ground of the Mattel's-tier bosun-se, was read. The only new fact it contained was, that when the Court of King's Bench refused to litter 111 r. Hunt in a cri, initial prosecution oti the part of the King, he not being a professional woo, or of the King's Counsel, he had tendered all bus facts jail proofs to the At torney-C;esierid, who refused to take up the caw. The Petition was laid ou the table, and ordered to be printed, though, when the question fur print ing was pot, there were several NOeS." COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY—CONSOLIDATED FUND. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved. that the House do resolve itselt Imo a Committee of Supply. He stated that liiv object wus riot to propose guy specific resolution. but merely a gene ral one. to which there could be rio objectinii. The flou..e their resolved itself into a Commit tee, arid the Hight Honourable Gentleman merely moved, '"chat a supply be granted to his Ma jestv." Mr. GRENFELL said. that be did not rise to op. pose the tout • at the Hight Hon. Gentleman, but merely to ask for explination nt a partieuhr cuinstance. Ile had seen an ufficial account that there was a deficiency in the Cons , 'lidated Fund to the amount of 8.000,000/. sterling. He was perfectly aware that in the recent quarters there were deficiencies to the amount of 3 or 4,000,0001., but to hear of ti. 000,000% staggered him ; he merely wished to inquire tutu the hem. and to have sonic explanation ut the cause of such a deficiency. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated in reply, items certainly true that in the quarter ending ou the 10th of October last. there was a deficiency in the Consulidated Fund to the amount of - alsout 8.000.00014 but so far as the actual state of the fund was iu that [the last] quarter, there was an actual surplus, as competed with the preceding ones, in the state of the particula► quarterly ac count. The deficiency aliuded to did not there. lure arise in the last quarter. but consisted of the accumulating a of preceding ones, flora the time when the treasuries of England and Ireland were incorporated. and included the mrrar act's slimed by the borrowing of sums by one tieabory f r om the other. At the time of the incorporation of the two treasuries, *re way s dr6 cit of almut 11,000,000/. which had subsequently smoniotrol by other operations to 8,000,000/. Ile had also to ANtr, that the rcveione of the quarter ending on the 10th of fleinher was short, as comp:m-11 with the amount of the same period lost year, to the sum of 1,100,000/. ; but by the accounts which would 50051 be produced. it would appear to have coosi.i. rl•ruhlt exceeded the corm! hog quarter of 1817. Of this comparative deficit of 1,100,000/. poo,ootd. wan 'linter the head of Commits, partly ovens iiiii ed by A MlAgtl3 , loo 01 trade, from causes of which they had heard in die course of the spring, awl partly 10 COSlNCtillellre of the recent consolidation of the Customs, which occasioned the payment of l a r ge sums to the July quarter, to avoid an iis ctea.e of Payment its that which f o llowed (the Imo). There was also a delicieocy in the Excise to the extent of '200,0001. But he felt great satirfac faction on statinK, notwithstanding the particular deficiency its the revenue of lam quarter, that in every branch of the revenue throughout the main average of the year, as compared with the preced ing one, there was an increuse.—(Hear.) Ti,! Resolution was agreed to, and the Report ordered to be received to-morrow. STATE OF THE COUNTRY. THE NEW LAWS. 1 Lord CaorrtEREAGR rose and desired the Clerk to read the following passaqes from the Prince Re gent's Speech, which were accordingly read:— " I regret to hare been under th► necessity of calling you together at this period of the year ; hut the seditious pi-m -aw...re lung prevalent in some of the manufacturing dis tricts uf the country have been continue.' with increases' ac tivity sure coo sr. re last assemble.' in Parliement. " y have II d In proceedings incompatible with the public hauquillily , and with the peaceful habits of the in dustrious classes of the community ; and a spirit is now fully manic sled utterly hostile to the Constitution of this kingdom. mod aiming nut only at the change of those pull tical ineutestions which have hitherto constituted the pride and atcm sty of this country, but at the sub ion of the rights of properly, sod of all order in society. ° I have giv. a directions that the necessary information on this subject shall be laid before you; and I feel it to be my indispensable duty to pr.ss on your immediate attention the consideration of such measures as may be reqiusile for the rosseiterneliun and suppression of a system which, if not effectually checled, mutt bring confusion and ruin ou the The Noble Lord then commenced his speech, by stating, that he rose in pursuance of his notice, to call the attention of the House to the state of the country, as recommended by the Speech from the Throne. He assured them that he never in his place in Parliament rose under a more awful sense of the painful situation an which he stood, and of the difficult task he had to perform. Pain ful indeed Must he the situation of a Minister of the Cr o wn when lie feels inmstlf bound by the im perious ties of hi. public duty to propose for the moisideration of Parliament measures both of a coercive and restrictive character as affecting the people. He felt the fell extent of the difficulty and danger, while guarding the loyal, who required from the hands of Government protection fur their lief -snits and property, of stopping otitis the neces sity of Ole rese, and convincing that House, as the goaidtao of the public liberties, that no step was t!iten to compromise the Constitution of the cowl tri, bot that the utmost sod most anxious rare was taken tol put diesii shuses, which were calculated, if left unrestrained, to extinguish the best rights of Englishmen, and their most valuable inheritance. It was the earliest wish of his Majesty's Ministers so to frame the measures to which they solicited the attention of Parliament, as to meet the existing evil, and at the same time not to infringe upon, but rather to save the Constitution from the danger which threaten* it. He thought it right to ob serve, that notwithstsioling some of the inea sures healed by Lis Majesty's Ministers were to originate in the other House, he still thought it but right not to confine their attention to the mere measures with the proposition of which he meant to conclude, hat to give the House a broad outline of the whole, so as to enable them at one view to embrace the whole scope of the plan of Ministers, to *hew the House at once the full ex tent of the dangers that tileoaced the country, and the broad remedy with 'which it was intended they should be met, He would, on the present occasion, lissome the existent... , of a great danger to the exist ing insttrutiw•s of the country—he felt himself even entitled to assume it from the admission of the fact die amendment to the Address, which was propos ed and supported by the Gentlemen oppo site. In claiming the benefit of this assump tion oil the present occasion, for the sake of more briefly and succinctly stating his view to the House, he by no menus intended to be absolved in is future stage of their proceedings, from support ing, conclusive proofs, the whole of the details of measures which led to the necessity of resorting to the course adopted by his Majesty's Govern ' input, He assumed, therefore, for his present pur pose, that it spirit had disclosed itself in parts of the country, which was incompatible with the safety of the Constitution, and the preservation of the principles and property of the great bulk of the community—a spirit that in its operation was even tuitions amid fatal to the very deluded indi viduals themselves who had imbibed it. The Ministers of the Crown were called upon to aid the civil power to extinguish this spirit; its exist ence dolt baneful effects were pressed upon their consideration by the Magistrates of Cheshire and Lancashire, by the declaration of the Grand Jury of the latter, in behalf of the largest population of soy county in the whole circle of the empire, and one comprising, perhaps, the greatest extent of properly, in the centre of which this spirit had broken out, so, as in the words of the Itepresenta live of that comity. •' almost to border upon a state of actual rebellion." It was lamentable to find that the infection had taken root in the great manufacturing districts, and w a s calculated, in the view of one of the first commercial men in the coun try, the Member for Taunton (Mr. A. Wittig), to create a suite of things which must, if not stopped, eventually put down the counnercial rank and the other great interests of the country, and no interest inure surely, or less fatally, thsti that of the unfor tunate a n d deluded people who were so anxious to create a change of which they must themselves be the most eertsio victinii.—(fleur.)—lii pro posing the measures which his Majesty's Govern ment deem the fittest for the present emergency, he should be sorry if he were supposed to havethe slight est inclination to exaggerate the existing state of • 4. I thing,. or to set afloat an insinuation that 11:e great hulk or the lwople of the empire weer entlim ked rotor machinations of those against whom the measures of Government were directed. With id:emote to that country to which lie more particul•itly belong. ed, he fife a pride, and hoped it would he con. antlered a laudable one, that Ireland, no minnow. tint feature io the general view of the empire— ( /One, hear )—tirter experienced a ' , tete of greater intermit tranquillity thou she now exhibited._. (Hear, hear.)—Long may she feel 16 adeatitere and benefit of this important constitutional pus'_ (ion. so well calculated to place herself to ifte Sli111011(01 she ought to till, and to inspire that roil. fidener iu her views in the other parts of the which her slat I character, when owlet. stood and appreciated in its true sense, su well entitles her to hold.—(Hear, /tear, heat.)—A, to the State of England, he might sae that k r agricultural population never knew a greater state of repose. or was more rapidly rective6s e from the difficulties undyr which they laboured. ti e l a . melded that the same character di I not apit'iv ti, important parts of the manufacturing primal:mo o . Let the /loose. in looking at the ferratut which prevailed iu such quarters, reflect on the magnitude of the danger from the formidable physical force of a dense populist ,,,,, among whom the patois w o , slisteminated. In pointiog out the source aud centre of this danger, he was perfectly prepared to admit, that even tit the districts which were frctetl, there was sti:l force enough elfsetuslly to put down 'realism and rebellion ; hut this could not be done as matters at present stood, 'ni t . out entailing bitter misery upon the deluded population. It was necessary to arm the taws with fresh vigour to appal the deluded, and pre. vent the country from being ulinnattdy exposed to the devastitiont of a wide.tpreadia. : rehellion. As for the trade of the country, except indeed as far as concertted the American market, that coon. try which the deluded people looked second paradise, except as far :is our cantilever was interrupted in contequence of the distress of that country, he sow no reason for thitik•og th at the commercial concerns of the country were int. paired. With the European markets the trade c-f the country remained undin )ill i l lied, and the come, of lower price*, proceeding, as they did, Iran alteration in the affairs of the country, Iron a silt , - of war to that of peaces.-theae cause., 1w wow( venture to say, no Parliament could remove. Wei• regard to the remedies he nwatit to proartse, would state them iu five dittinct headiet—ilw most important one he would leave for the Lis'. The first regarded simultaneous meeting.. Wiwi. he amid were lately field in the country. cud wet never known before ; the second :wad related to !Jo-- practice of tr g men, prevaring them by that means to military, and of course to rebellions ezet cise ; the third remedy was to give extraordinary power for seizing arms from persona who should not be able to give to the Magistrates proper reasons for holding them ; the fourth remedy was to promote the more speedy tultnitustrotion of justice. as it re.. girded misdemeanor.; the fifth :aid last remedy was as regarded the press, or, as he should say in contradistinction—the blasphemous, seditious, and treasonable part of the press. An to simultaueotts meetings, no one was more willing than he was to uphold the right of the subject to cony his grievance. to tile foot of the throne; hot: that right, like every other, mast li hated according to reason, othertri.e it would tie. come an abuse, and lead to sanguinary and rehei lious proceedings, which would rod in militay tyranny. The doctrines promitteoted at nithix meetings were such as never couid li e submitted to under any Government; he woii!il give tiw doc trines as clearly stated by Mr. Thistlewood. 11-. said lie knew no - law or principle in the Consteo tiots that prohibited ten thousand, or a hutitirr, l thousand, or a million of pertons meeting at arc place they thought fit, and until they struck blow. there was no cause to question the leg,!!iii of such a meeting. It made no difference whythy , they went with arms or without tom.; with floe. or without flags; and in fact, with or without the paraphernalia which were for lie I. trodtierd at meetings at this country. WKS it. ••ked, to be distort(' that any iiiihvirinal w t'l be allowed to assemble any portion of l,e ;w0 ; .::• with t limnlation, and were the I:igistrittes t • stand inactive—were these things to be vernutted then he would say that the provision% a II:, b.: the country were most absinti on the fate thern—/Hime, hear.)—He would sly I:tat the we are in at present, war one under which tio ditto try was ever in. and in which sin country coital exist. Was every meeting of the people to forth the civil Hod military nuthority—and art. what Minister or Magistrate could do his duty if he suffered these tumultuory meetings to he held, without exerting all his power and caution to pre. serve the public peace? Was it to be tolerated that the well-disposed and loyal individuals were to be filled on all such occasions, with di.. tresting fears, not childish fear% but oat u-4! and legitimate fears ? —was it to be elidortd, that their business was to be interrupted their shops to I* shut up ?—(llene)—ins It to tolerated that the population of the cou to be put in motion by every agiocor rant orator, who thought fit to make ax Upon them, nod drag them about hint ft' distance? Those persons might wtlsine pulace—they might tell them that pet-ions sinecures were the causes of all their and distress; yet he would say, that ..a occur,. and iNfliSlolls were ahohs'ie.l t. they would not in the course of ten •ein ■ to each of the Manchester s,lnnnrr., these meetings. the sum of 5 , ., lus: 1 1 rac sitcrificed every day the} 'mended these With respect to the lewd privaplr, ut t theseineetusgs. it wits manikin quit those ore illegal ; that ei meeting which crew from its oppcorosice is tllrgal . eve.s violence was committed. and though no i exhibited by the people ; its numbers terror would constitute its illeg.ility. mid gistrate is hound to interfere to protect the the property of the community egg:wild 0 lity of being injured by suck tumultuous Whate%er laxity of opiuiou might have ou subject was dit.sipotril . by the Paelinment. 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