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other hand% it might entlikor,er the liberties of the could " country. Ile trot thitik what was Meant by increasing the army to sod* an amazing extent ; it now connoted of 237,360 men, unless they meant . to repeat the disasters of the late campaigti in spill.. In that view he could not think what they wanted with 40,000 men, when our horses, accord tug to the first papers rearmed to the House, was 6.000 only, sod according to the lust a,01.0. He was surprised that uo persou hail ever taken no. e of the itnniematy of the number of men eur -I'...yed in the reverel branches of the army and w ry, which amounted to no lest thou 9•40,000 rim in arms, being (Lie-twelfth of the population o f the whole country. Thor force could not he satiteil for Self-defence, we could not apprehend i u yasion, anekincretuting it would only tend to dis gust the country. The sum which this force vost toe country, amounted to 21,550,0001. little left tima twenty-five millions, which Mr. Pitt estitnnted the full value of the 'aminel produce of the king dom. The various reports. presented to the House, recommended economy, but if till their savings acre mnputcd, it would not amount to one penny ia the pound of what might be timed from our eatablishtueuts. IT he could conceive an additioual force necessary, no man would more readily stand furavardl thin he would ; but lie deorecated raising 40,000 men at this motwat, which _would cost 230,4)001. and put the country to un unmenve ex pense, which there was no necessity to justify.. Mr. !Vitals:art - ince thought the measure ti bene ficial one, and considered the indiseriiiiinate churo mode by the lion. Member, to have a dangerous tendency. Ile thought the present system tended ti, totem a military' spirit, contended that it was hi4h/Itieceasury we should always be a t- s p are d, ami d that it was better to lie too forward than too back ward. lie thought this country the most free and happy in existence, and regretted to see persons taking advantage of the freedom they enjoyed, to promulgate sionOus which might lead to oppress dons Sir T. Turrost said, he did not argue again* being prepared, it was to the extent of the prepa ration to which he objected. Mr. WILIKKPORCK said, the Ilnu. Member's vinciples would have the effect of leaving the c sugary unprovided in the hour of danger. Mr. HAWKINS tiIIOWNE supported the Bill, and quite agreed with what had fallen from his Hon. Friend. Mr. Wilberforce. Mr. WINDHAM expressed his disapprobation of some of the general excursions in which the I ton. Baronet indulged; he felt it necessary to offer u few observations upon die question before them, not withstanding that:it-was a subject not likaly to ex cite much interest. In die present temper of the comitry nothing could command attention, at least out of doors, which was tiot connected with some of the posent popular topics. lie would make some observations on the military system now adopted ; the measure Vlnt4 not new, but it was cer tinily a measure that *Mould only he resorted to because it could oil, justified upon extracodi nese o:-ea,ions. Now what was the emergency tit d I alled for it io the nreseat instatice? it might lie sal I that part of the army was to he sent abroad ; but did that deserve the mune of an army which coold not bear such draits which might be raid to live only from Laud to mouth, and which had not an: thing to spare upon any occasion? Would it be said that the .ittripargii'in Spain cleated the ne cessity ? 0111 the little toss with which that cam pabypt wan felatilwritetl as happily attended, make such a bile iii our wa lly, as to require recruiting from the mottos, in order to supply the deficiencY Bat it was tint, in Ins opinion, men's hiss that woald justify those extraordinary means ; it must be coinhoitial will, some prospect of future opera tions ; that prospect, he feared, was entirely re moved by the conduct of Ministers. As to betid ing our armies to the %Vest Indies, where neither glory nor proritsould result from their efforts, and by which our COIOILIIIIellet• is so much look as to outweigh all the advantages that may lie expected from the pnseessiou of the sugar whim's, it was ■ phu in which 11.- could not concur. Mtaisters, .to whom the old pitrose might be applied, ei that the money boned it their pockets;' would, nn doubt. bo enamoured of it, and haying once got paints sum of the troops, would be anxious to expend Coon upon the first trash. The purpose to which the inifitiu force WAS now applied, was to supply tae regular many ; organising a militia for such a porata,e, was like buthlitig a vessel, that it inieht be broke up for the sake of the timlwr. The No ble Lord, in his system, attempted to make the army good, hut lie only succeeded in making the populiitioo land ; sitecceth.cl also in increasing the patronage of Government. If trnining was laid aside, sod enrolling adopted, none of those injurious consequences to the rats of the popu lation world exist. The Noble Lord heel adopted a bad system, acid hail adooted it violently ; it was not usual with hini to run into systems, lie had al ways thewu himself extremely averse to them, but when he did a Copt systems, it was with all the cha racteristic vieleace of a man rushing from one ex tn.one into another; there was an obi saying, be ware of time fury of a patient mail. he would ad vise them to beware of the system of a matter of fact man. Lord CaoTt.tagantt staid, that he would not de tain the House long upon the subject, it was one which hail already undergone many discussions, on which iteurnint it was out itecesittry upon the present oceasicet gn into the debit!. Ile could lint taloa. with the /Um. Baronet, that the country was to be rilae..•!i•re.l treate, bee:lll,oe the enemy " 1,4 not at present occupied in attempts upon it.— With respect to the. immlicy of wolfing troops to the West Indies upon which the lion. Gent, bad • insisted so much, he meld assure the House that it proctored no inconvenient reduction of the troops at home. There was nothing, he was persuaded, in the codduct of Governments inju rious to she cause of spein, they had acted promptly wild genieronsly. He was still of opinion that optimae for life was preferalile to service for is bolded time. A. to the partnuage which the pre sent system was reprt.setiteti as Qtvisig rise to. it w a . a must erroleotts Anti the situations created by it were far font being considered as favorers,. The Lords Lieutenants r.l" the different counties would, he was persuaded, go u:ein their knees tolre relieved from the btirthen which it im posed Alpo* them. From these considerations he M...i110...... _...—_..b....Mb.b... LONDON, WEDNESDAY, MAY 3. A Gottenburgh Moil arrived yesterday with let ters and papers from that city to the 2.stit last, the contents of which are not of any importance. Go vernment at the same time received dispatches brought by a messenger, who came in the packet the Lori Nebo's, with the mail. There has not occurred, in our opinion, for long time pant, a more important or more interest ing debate. than that of Monday night, in the Douse of Coniunons. Its result we consider us a triumph over Ministerial artifice and Treasury evasion. Neither Nlr. PERCEVAL nor Mr. Rolm: could contrive to induce the House to procrastinate the account deinauded from the Dutch Commis sioners, who have to indecently insulted the public, and retained, or appropriated to their own use, the funds of which they were meant to have been the guardians and •investigators. AVe regard the adoption of Mr. THORNTON't Reim!anion, however mutilated, by inserting the word " omission," in ' ,lace of the word " neglect," to be a real triumph over Administration. It is sufficiently apparent to every man who reads the speeches of the CHAR r:ELLoa of the Excs tousit. and of Gstoana Rose, that their whole object was to defeat and to decry the motion of Mr. Oda. With a view to effect it, the former actually moved the previous questiun; while kthe latter only deprecated "ally hasty or strong censures upon government ;" disclaimed all p. roma' knowledge of Mr. Joey Bowies ; vowed to God that he had never read any of his anti ja. ohm pamphlets ; and endeavoured in prove that it was better to wait tin the time of the Commission was expired, in older to ascertain tlio extent of the compensation due t0,.0r of the reparation due from, the Commissioners. Mr. Rose well knows that delay, smith Ministers, is defeat to all inquiry or punishment. It was so under the ►ate Mr. PITT, when Mr. Hose conducted, with such recognised talents, tlie Treasury department, as connected with the representation in Parliament. But times are changed. The Ministerial majorities are shaken. and dwindle every week. An hour of ac count is obviously approaching, if not imminent. —. Though the attempt made a few nights ago, to stop the future practice of granting reversions, was thrown out by Ministers; and though they were able, while they admitted the guilt of their worthy colleague, Loud CASTLEREAGH, to shelter him from the merited consequence, expulsion; they cannot much longer insult public opinion, or persist to justify, or to perpetuate. abases. If they will not perceive this truth, they will feel its effects ere long. It is admitted by the blouse of Commons, that " the Dutch Commissioners have appropriated to themselves a part of the public money, and have not accounted for their trust." Mr. Jour+ Bow Les. This outrageously virtuouv man, and furiously loyal subject, whvi wrote a long pamphlet of abase upon the memory of the late Duke of BLDTOID, one of the most valitable cha racters that this country has for a long time pro duced ; this said Mr. Bowtes, who now stands N. iii his proper colours, like another ibigria, may probably try his hand at one more pamphlet on the present occasion, in er.culpation of himself and his brother Commissioners. r. The impression made upon our mist!, and we believe, equally made upon the public, by the en. thusiustn demonstristol at the :Meeting which took place uti Monthly, at the Crown and Ancbor Ter vows, is at outs) of the deepest, slid of the moat satuiftretory noture. lu ftet, unless among those entruilt i, lividuals, v, ho either are lost to ull seuse of public duty, Intl public principle ; or who derive th, it support from the violation of the British Constitution; there can IS' no reagonititz man, who Iveheres tlintSit FitAtktl3 BUROLTT, Mr. Lord Co.'.-- 'aid the persons associated with • them, is the enterpriss of iefa,--ning ..tLe titration of Government, mews to overture, or to reit:WV/Mee the c:Juntryi That Rail done very well in 1793,, ei(tetiotAi.j%;atiolial'llebts mod codseqiisivili the Netbs'ael: .Sersfees Asti Sol exceed tl ilia of their prrientlsigltito9l. ft operAttil • with, electric seftect, whet • Frouee, - 11Bsereloni,1 lrehY*, democracy; csruege, sad friitzy, etbitirl; roared tolraternise with nres,of s sird.lezelescripa tion in this country. Hut v;:sr, taxation; calsinity, and corruption long Continued, as well iis accumu lating yearly, have opeiietl the eyes of the peoltte. while they uhlior and repeisi,ste the igitioci, U:surper, who over-runs Europe, and whose crimes alway priverle his victories : while they eildally. deprecate mid renounce the 'idea of subverting the Brith,l. Constitution, they wish to ic.rtec, to re-ia vigurate, sod •to. arphoid it ire irx urigisal park Nor is-there any reason to dread, whatever insintre lions to that effect may be thrown out from.th Treasury Bench, or even from Peers ow the Optic sitimi side of the House, that the 'advocates I temperate awl practicable Reform will be ore ruled and borne away by the more ardent e theoretirat of their associates. The best answe such accusations, is to be found in the peritsd the thirteen Resolutions proposed by M. CARTWRIGHT, and carried collectively, on MI day. Is it possible to deny the ttets, or to approve of the principles there laid down ? Sulk of those Rarollitions, which states that' .1!.: 1 PITT asserted in 17*2, in the Muse of Comme that seven or eight Members of that Assemb were sent there by the Nabob of Arcot ;" have added with the same truth that Mr. I' himself sat in Parliament rst the very t for the borough of Appleby, to which he elected by Sir JAHR' LOWTHLR--4lhiell JAMES LOWTHAR, Mr. PITT created, irb r only two years afterwards, in 1784, E.- LORSDAI.E. Major CARTWRIGHT might h. have remarked, that whet Mr. PITT made aft sertion, he was not in ollice—but that no did he become First Lord of the Treasur Chancellor of the Exchequer, than he re with systematic pertinacity, every attempt,' dupe even the most moderate Parkiimetr form, or any amelioration of the popular atom. Ministers may profess, and may apparently to the tide of public opinion : to evade a greater loss of power, Mau patronage—but never will any man, inve political authority, or governing by corrupt Tingly Tay dowa those instruments, unleAs . led to do it by the general voTe of the siatio, • Yesterday, about twelve o'clock, their ;MAJES TIES. Princesses AUOBSTA, MARY, and SopHIA, arrived at the Queen's Palace, from Windsor. Plincesses ELIZABETH anti AMELIA did not ac company them, on account of indisposition ; the loonier being afflicted with the rhetionstisro and a void, and the latter was not sufficiently recovered from her late illness. In the course of the morning, the Dukes of YORK, CLARENCE, SVIAZI, and Ca wattiouv., paid their respects to their MAJES- TsEs and the PatecessEs. Yesterday the Princess SOPHIA of GLOLTESTER dined with Her Man - Irv. Yesterday evening 'Dien MAJESTIES had a select party. His Mallen' will hold a private Levee and Pei. vy Council, at the Queen's Palace, this day. To-morrow Her Manua will hold a Drawing- Room, at 5t..4.-nes'a Palace, for the ti•-st time since her indiaposftirai. Great discontent prevails in Holland, on account of a Conscription having beett determined upon, which the people seem resolved to resist. The Gazette of last night containo an Order in Council, revoking the late Order, requiring all ves sels from the ports of Sweden, to perform it quaran tine of 13 days ; it having been found, that uo die ease of &contagious nature exists in any of the ports of that kingdom, excepting the ports of Stockholm and Carlscrona ; but the late Order in Council re mains still in force with respect to all vessels" coming from the two latter places. No accounts have been r•-reived at the Admiral ty, or at the East India !louse, of the arrival of the East India fleet, as stated in a letter received yes terday from Portsmouth. Yesterday, a Court of Directors was held at the Eastindia Honse, whets Major General the Hon. Joiia ABEREROMME was appointed Commander in-Chief at Bombay. with a seat in Council.—The Court acljoisrnA at 6 o'clock till this day. EITRALT we A LETTER PROM PRINCE Or WALES'S ISLAND. DATER OCTOsS:ft 1, 1808 . On 'Tuesday last arrived the ship Farquhar, Capt Sinclair, front the Eastward, last from Ma lacca. " The Farquhar brought in with her the Dutch brigs Forum', Ilehler, and Frethia, one of which is a remarkably tine vessel, and a fast sailer. " Capt. Sinclair has also detained an Arab ship. which came from SAinarang, laden with sugar and tobacco, and brought her to this port. • " We are sorry to hearthat a ship named the So mynah, of Copenhagen, taken by the rarrpthap od the coact of Java, laden with rice awl pan ware, has not been heard of. Thera We'll' MI totted her the Prise-Muter, the Danish Commander, hie clerk, carpenter, carpeiter's-mate, a few slaves, who were promised their liberty, a n d 33 people from the raryahar. Captain Sinclair wits infqruted by the Second OTeer, that she had on board two chests of gold, it quantity of quicksilver and cam phor-wood, amounting to a very considerable sum ; a circumstance, of whic:i, at the time of the cap ture, Capteic S, was entirely ignorant. " Accounts from Malacca intention, that Tlet . had risen to a very great price, and it was suppostA would be much h unless a seasonable supply was speedily isseeived." ~_ Siln , I: 1 aierLand in short mitts. h recognised such - a junction of patriots its shout. . as a check upon Minister.; in short, what pe. nod of our political history could be found M which we do not find the existence of a ratty Mr. WHITBREAD stated his approbation of the late Resolutioas of the Club, thanking Mr. ‘Vitrell , , &e. Headtled, that having, from iwudential tootles., declined long miner being owe of the stewards at the dinner given yesterday in that room ; he thought at that time, little adiantage could he de -1 raved to the public, front any proceeding of that sort ; but the prrbtie feeling. hosire r , in his laird. • become greatly roused. hr now thought otherwim, mid that the tone was not far distant, when a Reform must take place. He heard muds about the ueecssity of temperate proceedings ; but r for his part, he could not think any means could poosibly have beets adopted more tinniest. or more temperate than the Resolutions that acre panted yesterday. Mr. WILLtAM SMITE stated, that he now aisle. deafly wished for a Reform in Parliament, ait he did at the outset of Ins political career.— His great anxiety was, that those who were at pre. sent roused to this wish, might not hare their ar-. dour damped by the obstaclesthat would be thrown in their way. He had bees yesterday in the same room found fault with for stating this opinion. He doubted not that those who were more sanguine than himself, or even hostile to the memuret might be influenced by as just feeling as himself; but he hoped that neither the otie nor the other would impute to him other than the most disinterested' and honourable motives. . The usual toasts were drunk. ind..after the de parture of the Duke of Bedford. Mr. William Smithwas called to the Chair, -- =sir The Marehionersof FINADPORT will have a grand music party this evening, at her house in Stanhope Street, May-Fair. The Countess Dowager of Ktwosiox. will give a grand halloind supper to-tuorrow, at her house in Gloncester-place. The Countess of Es ex had a card tarty LA night, at her house in BerleAcy-square, which was attended by the Earl and Countess of CARMAN?... TON, Countess of CI.4ILE. Lady DeasinA,•Gtneral and Mrs. ST. John, and several other persons of distinction. • The Duke and Duchess of Dithrolea retertird, yesterday,th their house to Great Shinlmpe-street,, from Woburn A libey. The new Farce brought insets the Drury-lane Company, at the Lyceum, fowl - eel, Temper: 'or, The thatirstic Tyrant, is the production of M. C.. Lahti, &q. . Mr BOH had a grand party last night, at her house in St. Jamea's.eaosi e, which laps ;Mendell 1 , 3, to; elegant and aninevina ice.emMtsge of Vw*hion- . obit's. The grand sup e of apartments displayed great elegance, font the brilliancy of the lights. Amongst the eoitivoiv were— • The borfiesses or Norihomberlawl, Amulets, Somerset, • use 61. Animas; Marrlu•m,sors SohMury, Downelom, litatifori, and Dorrse.l. Ball, ; Couutesses, BArrynsore, %a tom, Cuonleo, toed liocluugasmsl..le The Portuguese Ambassador will give a grand et.tertainment 01l thr 1311; instant, at his haw r is • South Audley-street, to a mien.. OUA of nobility. It will &assist of a grand 1111111114. f, .•• a music party. The preparations wail be Se tbe gi eat cot style of elegance. S~ , . 4 i I • 1 , , , - • iolitcod to prefer the prison!, system }o Ant which the Rigid lion. Gentleman prdposedi at te former period, arid to which he was; still ssibudied. Mr. ?craft Winter. «poke agaiast the Bill, as being most expensive and• unnsceiimary, and stud he would take the reuse of the Ho toe upon it, The Cita acei.tant of the Earn i.tiu A supported it. sod in so doing said, that Govermitent had an important duty to perform in Imaging it forward, as it was oue great mean; Uf imicer,ll4 us against iu ve.ion—the being prepared fOr it.' Mr: tit:mall Mmertn argued against ,t, upon the same grounds as Mr. Peter Moore; and he thought it was making the public incur an unnecessary de gree of expense, and had been only substituted in order to do away the former meatores if his Bight Hon. Friend, Mr. Windham. After a few words from Mr. HUsalsson, the House divided, when there appeared— In favour of the Bill •• • • S 7 Against it Majority in its favour Strangers wire not spans re-admitted into the gallery, but we ninlerstaitsl that Lord Castlereagh brought up several new clauses, by the way of riders, which were agreed to; cud also Mr. Pei'. CeVal . % Bill for preventing of tins disposal of public places, was committed to take into consideration u new clause, which wais proposed profurain, .and ordered to be re-committed on a future day. The other orders of the day were then disposed of.•;--Adjourned at INALF-PAST TEN O'CLOCK. - • ~a. Foe Foe Miscellaneous Intelligence see the hot page. THE BRITISH PRESS.