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Ile perceived too that Judges might still appoint deputies in particular cases when they saw occasion—a liberty lie saw nothing 1 to prevent them from exercising to the full extent; so that in short, 4 giving these large increases, the public gained nothing in profit, now obtained one single present abolition of a useless office ; and he thought therefore they should secure something better than the niece word of a Chancellor of the Exchequer for the abolition of those offices to which the Government was pledged ; for, howteer much they might be inclined to give praise to the exertions of the Right Hon. Secreuey for the Home Department, he thought that much more could be and ought to be done in the way of reduction. There was another office{ the Receiver-Ovieralshlp of the Aliena- tion Office, held by the Right Hon. Secretary for Foreign Affairs. Mr. CA NNING said, urns* the table, not as Foreign Secre- tary, an office which they all knew was appointed for the receipt of some nevments upon the sale of freeholds. That he thought wholly nosteeesurv. and a charge which might well be spared to the pub. . id The lion. Gentleman then praceeded to condemn the course permed, ir. giving a sum to the Puisne Judges, almost as large 11 that which was paid either to the Secreteries of State, the Speaker of that House, or the first officer% in the kingdom, sad declared his intention of taking the sense of the Houleon the propriety of Meal- . lowance being only 50001. instead of 5.500/. He expressed ton. after some observations on the state of the Judges in put times, and Moir subserviency to political pommies, his earnest wish that some I Measure might be devised. either by an insertion of woes in the preamble or otherwise, for rendering the promotion of Puisne Judges illegal. Mr. N. CALVERT was desirous of making the retiring allow- ance even greater than it was, if he could by that means avoid the still greater mischief of having Judges remain upon the Bench un- til they were, as he had the misfortune sometimes to see, wholly iacapable of performing she dune, assigned them. • ' ' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that in point of form they could not, even if ire wax inclined to pursue that fount, increase the retiring allowance is the present stage of the Rill, although it was undoubtedly in the power of any Member to p move a reduction. Rut he thought that if his Hon. Friend eon- . sidered the expense incurred by the Judges in going two Assizes, l': which amounted to peony near 6001., he would find the difference between the retired allowance and the salaty tot so greet as to war- rant the making any alteration in their relative proportions, and ender all the circumstances, quite sufficient to leave no apprehen- sion of a Judge clinging in future to his office until quite worn out. As to the objections of the lion. Member for Westminster upon the subject of the salary, considered with reference to the other offices of state, he did not see any analogy in the application, and as the principle had been already argued most amely before, he must. if that Honourable Gentleman persisted, give his resistance to the amendment. Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW defended the coterie of promoting the Puisne Judges, and instancing the canes of Chief Baron Thomp- son and Chief Justice Wilmot, argued that it had been the practise I from the earliest times. He denied too that soy Judges held their office until they were unable to perform the duties. Mr. N. CA L re explained. Mr. R. MARTIN contended that the Judges were not suffi- ciently paid ; everybody he asked told him so; and after he made his motion three years ago, be heard the Judges themselves say thee were not well paid. A Right Hon. person on the other side of the House had told him lately too, that so small was the salary of office campared to the expenses attendant upon its duties, that he was deterred from serving his country by the acceptance of office, ie consequence of that deficiency, even with the additional expen- diture of his whole private income. Meer and a laugh.) The Bill wax then read a Mad time. Mr. HORHOUSE moved, as an amendment, by way of rider, that the salary of the Puisne Judges be 5,0001. per annum instead of 6,5001. Mr. BROUGHAM seconded the amendment; and alluding to what had fallen from the Hon. Member for Galway, expressed his determination to oppose the exercise of which that speech gave 1 some hints, by every means in his power. Ile might be, and most probably would, be unsuccessful, but if he was he would certainly feel it his duty to propose, on the same grounds, an immediate in- crease I to the pay of the army. Lord JOHN RUSSELL supported the amendment. Mr. MONCR would, as an act of justice, support the grant of i the original sum of 6,4041. provided it was understood clearly that the Puisne Judges were not to be promoted. The House then divided— Against the Amendment - - 74 . , For it . . - 45 Megiority for the original grant - —29 / SIR ROBERT WILSON. On the motion that the Speaker do leave the Chair for the House . . going into a Committee of Supply, . Mr. ABERCROMIIY rose and said, that he believed It was perfectly consistent with the rules of Parliament for a 31enther to . . rtl . .- use on the motion for a Committee of Supply, and state to the ' ' House any thing which he did not desire to make the ohject of a I ! specific motion. He knew that it was his duty to offer every i apology for presuming to address them, although he was perfectly cesscious the House would be inclined to look upon him with . favour and indulgence, when he stated that his proposition con- . e • curled one of the most Valuable Members of their body—the repre. sentation of an important part of the metropolis—an officer who had served his country with unexampled zeal and fidelity, and obtained the highest honours of his profession. He thought he need hardly name him, his Gallant Friend the Member for South- -1 week (Sir R. Wilson). In order to guard against any suspicion that any thing he was about to say had any reference to transarg them long past, the recollection of which, perhaps, might be as in- jurious to the object lie had in view, as it would be disagreeable to t the feelings; of the Gallant General whose cause he advocated. Be would in the filet place unequivocally and distinctly state, that / it was not his wish to be considered as at all calling in questiort the ' conduct of his Royal Highness the Commander-tn-Chief, in the 1 case of the dismissal of the Gallant Officer in question, for he would be one of the last persons with whom any measure would originate tending to impugn the propriety of those regulations, . . which were necessary to preserve the dicipline and good order of 11 l oar Military establishment. Neither wan it his Intention to call • r into question the conduct of that House upon the occasion of the proposal of a Resolution with regard to that diceissal, or to ques- tion the propriety if the decision they had been pleased to pro. Bounce. They all knew there had been differences of opinion upon the subject ; but he trusted now at this distance of time, that the feelings which operated then have lost their influence, and those who might then, t'rom the considerations of the period have felt it their duty to recommend and support a particular course of pro- ceeding, would see that there never was a more fitting occasion to shoe that their objections were to the principle not to the indivi- dual. He did not, however, wish upon the present occasion in the slightest degree to compel the utterance of opinions--to ask for the expression of motives—or invite discussions. He did not wish to ask any thing which would prejudice the Commapider-in-Chief—he did not wash for any revision of the decision of that House. His object was to excite their Sympathies on behalf of merit, valour, and eminent service ; to enable them to show their sense of Mut- erioue deeds. His wish was to enlist the feelings of the generous and Cite noble, on behalf of one who had endured so much in the assertion of those principles which all the generous and noble must approve. (Hear.) If among the passages of a life so splendid in the eye of the world there be any which may be liable to censure, be would s ask whether the errors, even such as they may be, have not pro. • I ceeded from an excess of that feeling of et moor and chivalrous de. voteon which through 29 years of a military career has shed such lustre upou•his name; and even admitting as he might, and as he ,• had before mid, be did not mean art present to question that there might be actions{ *Tong in a public view ; he would ask whether looking into private lite his floe. Friend had not suffered in amen- ter more than commensurate with his offence; and lie would ask with equal confidence of the House, if from any conduct either ,public or private that gallant individual had been either less esteemed by his family and friends, less cheerfully received by the public, or forfeited in the slightest degree the good opinion and just attention of the House and the country. (Cheers.) lie would Nether say, is tiwensilitary career of that eminently gifted mon ea . be fee ever closed to his country, to be for ever deprived of hir teat, his talents, his surprising energy, his almost unequalledgx- I patience, from the influence of any such trivial circumstances. He now appealed to the House on behalf of that gallant man, and he ' . did so with mote confidence because he thought they must all re- collect his (Sir R. NVilson's) bearing upon the accession of that 1 t suotioil he before m alluded to with feelings of respect and admire. ; they must all remember the admirable temperance, nuale- tion, and forbearance with which he conducted himself on that oc. cession—a course of conduct which even commanded the unquallied e approhatiou of those who felt it to be their painful duty to refuse /. gtie inquiry he solicited. It was from a sense of what would have Seen the remit If the kindly feelings of human nature had rot been overpowered by that imperious public duty that lie now wished to appeal to that House again, and ask them, from a consideration of . what has been done, and suffered since, what were their present ‘ t. ..... eentiments. Ulna, hear, hear.) To those who had expressed themselves before upon this su b ject. he would appeal to now, particularly to the members of the gallant officer's own pro.' profession, many of whom lied shared with him the toils and perils ' of a military life—who had witnessed his achievements and marked those actions which rendered his name illustrious; to them he I ' I would appeal, and ask them whether they thought that the British soldier would not hail him as a friend ? whether the whole army 'would not be as much gratified by numbering him amongst its ranks in the field as its officers would be delighted by his coin j( parry In the camp? If such be the testimony those persons could t give, he was sure it would not be withheld: to oloain that teed- many was his object. To offer any opinion himself upon the con. . duct of that gallant person would be preposterous, because, from 1 . 1 the warmth of his sentiments, be could hardly speak of hint with- , cot being Purposed justly of partial exaggeration. He would not add any opinion of his own ; hie purpose was to give others who ( felt towards that gallant officer what his conduct deserved, who • knew his services, and had witnessed his devotion to his country, an epportimity of expressing their sentiments ; and if their opinions should be such as he confidently anticipated they would be, he knew that the expression of the feeling.; of that House would be I t readily and generonsly conveyed by those who had access to the place where stone they could effect, and where he war convinced the magnanimity of righting wronge, or relieving worth, would never be wanting. .(Hear, hear.) The Iftm. and Learned Gentle. man concluded by observing, that he did not mean in the slightest degree to be supposed to inteefere with the bee exercise of the pre. ti motive. or dictate to a gracious Sovereign what course he war to pantie, nor did Its say aught 51* of the illustrious indivi- dull WM commanded his gallant feland's removal, than that be : ‘, / Ilk • . . . . •• . - - .---'..-"Iitle:.•-...11440111111111111iild ./11 , 0.• pursued the strict line or a consciencious sense of duty. His object was to afford the House an opportunity of expressing its opinions upon the question of his Hon. Friend's services now, and thereby afford free scope to the benevolent intentions of a generous Sove reign in favour of a meritorious subject. (Hear, hear.) If the effect of his obeervations would be to call forth these sentiments, and if the result should be the restoration of his Hon. Friend to the situation he was calculated to adorn, he, for one, would ever feel happy in having been the bumble instrument of that restoration which he was sure would be received with approbation by that House of Parliament and the country. (Cheers). Ale. LITTLETON expensed hie candid concurrence in the sentiments of the Learned Member for Caine. It would be both had taste and bad feeling to revert to what was past, as he was con fident there existed no remembrance in that House now of any thing but the eminent services of the Gallant Officer whose name had been introduced with such eloquent justice. His restoration must be received with gratitude and pleasure by that House, and lie could add, the whole country. (Hear, hear.) . Mr. WODF.IIOUSE expressed similar sentiments. Such an act of grace to that Gallant Officer, while it must be most congenial to the royal nature. would he acceptible to the whole kingdom. Lord W. BKNTINCK, being one of that profession appealed to, begged to state, that, in his opinion, no individual in the army had shed greater lustre on the national character, or added more to our military reputation, than the Gallant Officer in question. It wan not his intention to extenuate his errors, or arraign the judg ment which hail been pronounced upon him. All he would say was, that he thought his reinstatement would give general sans faction. ( Gear. hear.) Mr. C. CALVERT pronounced a warm eulogium upon his Honourable Colleague's character, and expressed a hope that the feelings of the House would meet with a responsive impulse from the throne. Sir Al. W. RIDLEY expressed similar sentiments. Sir R. FERGUSSON could say with truth, that no man in the British army bore a higher character. He appealed to a distin guished Officer opposite (Sir A. Hope) as .the opinion enter tained of that officer in the military service. Sir A. HOPE, thus appealed to, expressed his conviction that the army would view with pleasurethe restoration of the gallant Officer alluded to. (Hear, hear.) He at the same time, while he acknowledged his great talents, begged not to be supposed as questioning the propriety of continuing the power at present lodged in the hands of the Commander-in Chief—a power which was ne ver, in any country, wielded with more moderation and jus tice. ( H ear. ) Mr. MANSFIELD expressed his conviction that the restoration of the lion. Member to his military rank would give unqualified satisfaction. Mr. W. LAMB, said although he had voted against the inquiry demanded by the Hon. Member, because he thought it right that a strict ides of discipline should be preserved, yet felt himself bound to say that he thought 'here was no good reason why he should not now be restored to a rank it must be confessed he deserved. Alr. BROUGHAM expressed his entire concurrence in what had fallen from his Honourable Friend( Alr. Abercromby) through out the whole of the painful transaction which had been adverted to ; he had been the personal friend as well as the protesaional ad viser of his Honourable Friend (Sir R. Wilson.) He knew that on the occasion of his defence in that House, his Honourable and Gallant Friend had documents in his possession, which, if he had produced, would have created a powerful impression. He (Mr. Brougham) had seen these documents, and he was ready to bear testimony to the extraordinary forbearance of his Honourable Friend in not bringing them forward. Throughout the whole of the proceedings, however. he had the generosity, not even once to have alluded to them. (line, hear.) COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The House then resolved itself into a Committee of Supply. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed the In sertion of the Appropriation Clause in Committee on Surplus of Grants BilL—Agreed to, and the Report was ordered to be brought up on 31onday. POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. After a few words from Mr. GRATTAN, the further considera tion of the Poor Relief (Ireland) Bill was postponed to this day three months. CUSTOMS CONSOLIDATION ACT. Mr. HUSKISSON moved that the HouseYesolve itself into a Committee on the further consideration of the Report on the Cus toms Consolidation Act. He was desirous of calling the attention of the House to the Resolutions which before Easter he had the ho nour of submitting to the House. The principles contained in those Resolutions he was still prepared to recommend to the Com. mittee, although it had been found expedient to introduce some changes in matters of detail, which he would take the present op portunity of submitting. On the occasion of laying these Resolu• titans before the House, he stated it to be his . destre to receive every suggestion, observation, and criticism, from every quarter, that could bear upon the proposed alterations in our commercial policy. , He had given this invitation very generally, and it had been very generally accepted ; and he mold assure the House that since the pro pont of these Resolutions, no ind iv idual had received more numerous communications upon any subject than had been received by the Pre- trident of the Board of Trade. This was not a matter of surprise to him,when he oonsidered the various interests to be affected by the alter. ations he intended to propbst. He stated it, not as a matter of corn plaint, but as a ground of apology for not having brought forward the subject at an earlier period after the recess. The delay arose from a desire to give the fullest attention to the representations made to him, and to attend to those representations as far as his duty to the community generally would allow him. It devolved 1 upon him now to proceed to a statement of how far he would pro pose an agreement to what he had before submitted to the Corn mittee, and to point out In what respect he would propose an ad dition to the former resolutions—ln what respect a modification of them, and in what respect also a further reduction of duty. The suggestions of the parties particularly affected by the proposed changes had been duly attended to; but their representations were naturally received and entertained with some degree of suspicion ; between him (Mr. Huekisanti), and. them, therefore, there were, if he might use a legal expression, two issues to try—one an issue of' statement and the other an issue of expediency. On cotton goods it was not his intention to propose any alteration, and on imported woollens, it was his intention to continue the present ad valorem duty, such as he had before stated in the former resolutions ; at the same time that he would hold out the prospect of a gradual dimi. notion of the duty. On metallic substances he would not propose any further reducuon of duty beyond what he had already sub. misted, except as far as related to lead. From the present high price of that article, and from the great demand for it in building and in various other purposes, he would propose that there be no protecting duty upon it. On earthenware articles it was also his intention to propose a further reduction of duty. On linen manufactures the duty was proposed to be twenty-five per cent. After having heard all the parties concerned in this important branch of manufactures, and in consideration of what was due to the manufacturing interests, generally—he would now propose that the reduction be gradual and that a reduction to the extent which he hail formerly stated be not forthwith adopted. This formed an important branch of industry in Ireland, and he hoped to see it prosper there, where it had hitherto been retarded by the want of capital, and by the employment of manual labour in ma. nufactories ; whereas, elsewhere, there was a greater facility in the manufacture from the superiority of our machinery. But he hoped that ere long, both in capital and In machinery, Ireland would be able soon to compete with any other country in the pro duction of this important article. The principles which he recom mended on the anicles of manufacture to which he had already adverted, were those which were formerly recommended and en. forced by a once distinguished Member of that House (Mr. Homer.) On the article of glass he would propose a still further reduction of duty: this article had a peculiar claim to a re_ duction, as besides the Custom duty it was also subject to a duty °lF:seise; for this reason he would propose a reduced ad valorem duty upon it. In this, as in other branches of 111woufactures, the diminution which he would propose would be a gradual, not a sudden one. The next article to which he should call the attention of the Committee was that of paper. lie would not speak of the raw material, as that was comparatively unimportant, and besides, in some instances, its importation from the Continent was prohi bited. But the regulations which he would propose related to paper in a anufactured state, by which he meant when it was made up in tA books. Great ineonvenienee had been felt in the im portation of books from the Continent to this country. Now to remedy that incouvenience, he would propose that all books which were printed twenty years ago should be admitted on a reduced duty from the present duty of 61. Ws. to I/. This should be understood, however, with this limitation, that the reduction would not extend to books which were imported into this country for purpose' , of safe, but was intended to allow individuals to possess those classical and other literary works of merit on tht Continent which it was so de sirable to possess in the formation of a library. Or books printed within the period he had specified he would propose as a general sole of duty, that it be altered from 71. to 51. It was not his inten tion to go through the whole of the items on which he would re commend an alteration. He would, however, advert to a few of them. On flax and tow he would propose a still further reiuction. As to harilla lie had proposed a reduction upon it; but he had since understood that there was an understanding that the present duty should continue for five years from the time of its imposition. Although his opinion was that the reduction would be expedient now, yet as a pledge had been given that it should continue for five years, for the preservation of good faith he thotaght it better that the reduction should not take place until the expiration of that period. On a very important duty to which much attention had been directed, and on which he had received many representations, the only measure he would propose was one that -would not so much affect that rimy in lot amount, as it would correct and prevent the recurrence of a fraud which had been practised in the payment of that duty. The present duty on tim ber was fifty-five shillings per ton, according to the cubic measure. There was a duty also of It. Ids. on one hundred and twenty-five planks; the latter though shaped so as to evade the higher duty, were made to answer all the purposes of building, &c., to which the former were applicable. This was he thought a manifest fraud and called foe correction, u it was equally an injustice to the fair dealer and an injury to the revenue. There were various other minor articles, such as dying materials, Re-, into the em endation of whirls lie would not enter, on which it was his intention to propose a reduction so as to make the duty merely nominal. These would in a great degree be found bene ficial to the West Indies, the consumption of whose products he was motion% to encourage by a diminution of duty as far as was posslhle. He had now stated the principal alterations and changes which he proposed in the Resolutions submitted to the House, and the Committee would bear in mind that throughout he had kept the principle of reduction of duty constantly in view. The dimi. notion to the revenue from these changes, making a liberal allow. once for the increased consumption, in consequence of a reduction THE BRITISH PRESS. of duty, would he, on a moderate calculation, at least four or five hundred thousand pounds. Ile begged in the next instance to call the attention of the (louse to a duty which affected the shipping interest. At presort there was a duty of fi fty pet cent. on all foreign vessels broken up and sold in this country, which was, he supposed, the reason that the large ship (we presume the Colum bus) was not broken up and sold in this country. ft would be well perhaps to du away with this duty altogether, and when he saw the spirit of combination that prevailed amongst the ship weights of this country, it would be the best way perhaps to defeat that spirit of combination not by penal law, but by destroying what might seem the monopolies they possessed, and by placing English vessels on a more equal footing with those of other countries. lie would say to the artizans of England, beware of the designing men who are misleading you. The country will not submit to your dictation. Parliament will continue to remove the restraints upon trade and manufactures, and if you refuse to consent to a fair com petition—for a fair competition is all that is asked--the country will not stand still. We shall open our doors, or open our ports, and let in the productions of foreign industry. These deluded men would be taught that they must accord with regulations whirli the state of this country and the world has rendered necessary. We must hare freedom of trade—there was no freedom at present. and if our own artizans and manufacturers did not give us the fruit of their labour upon fair terms, se must depend in a great measure upon foreign competition. Time was one other article to which he hail forgotten to advert—the duty on pepper. he presert duty amounted to 500 per cent., and he had no doubt that this excessive duty diminished the consumption whilst it encouraged the smug gler. The quantity imported, which paid duty, only amounted annually to 1,200,000 pounds weight. Now this would only give an allowance of an ounce and a quarter to each individual. The quantity imported, therefore, must be increased either by adulter ation or smuggling. The price of the article now was sd. per lb., the duty 2s. ral., and his proposal was to reduce the duty from 2s. 6d. to Is. per lb. (Hear, hear.) - - - Sir 11. PARNELL said he did not consider that the Right Hon. Gentleman meant to make the proposed schedule a rule of permanent regulation. lie or any other Hon. Gentleman should therefore be at liberty to propose any further reduction at a fu ture period. (Hear.) Though we) were endeavouring to get rid of the prohibitory system, we had not got rid of it altogether. Many of the protecting duties now proposed to be continued by the Right Honourable Gentleman were prohibitory. The Right Honourable Gentleman's speech detailed the evils of protect ing duties so distinctly, that every rational man must agree with him. Ile had given the true character of protecting duties; but the regulations proposed by him did not entirely abolish protecting duties, and were therefore incomplete. Too ready an ear he feared was given to representations detailing cases of particular injury ; the House mutt legislate for the country, and not for particular interests. A great omission was made by those who did not remember that before we were able to bring the goods of others we must dispose of our own productions or manufactures. By a more liberal system the demand for our own manufactures would be augmented, and as to what are called protecting duties, they were only taxes, which did not find their way into the Ex chequer. lie hoped the subject would be renewed with additional advantages next Session. Having such a powerful command over machinery, England need never fear competition, if perfect freedom was given to trade and manufacture. Ile (Sir H. Parnell) would not have objected to lower the duties on woollens still more than was proposed in the schedule. England had an advantage over foreign countries in this article. Linen was made a most important part of this subject, and most properly. The Right Honourable Gentlemansfirst proposed 25 per cent, and afterwards, from repre sentations made to him, he considered that duty too low. We had no hope of seeing the benefits of competition extended to this ma. nufacture. Eight years must pass before the duty was reduced to the original sum proposed. With respect to coarse linens, at pre. setts they may be made cheaper abroad ; hut in the course of eight years Ireland might improve in the manufacture of linens. It was absurd to makes redaction of duty on trifling articles, they should have been struck oat altogether. Duties were tanrinued too upon many articles in which no other country could 'compete with Eng land. This system would induct other countries to retaliate, to the manifest disadvantage of our trade, whilst the protecting duties were of no possible service. He was inclined to give the Right Hon. Gentleman great credit for what he proposed respecting the raw material—it would take off a great burthen from the public. Going back, hewever, to his tomer opinion, he confessed he wished there bad been no duty at all upon linen, leather, and shipping. These three articles should have been left free. Many of the articles which were now subject to duties were such as could not produce a revenue, and it seemed as If somebody had invented the schedule for the purpose only of annoying the public. There was another part of the schedule to which he particularly tb.. jetted. He alluded to that part where various articles of food, such as butter, bacon, and so on, were lialrle to duty. Looking %t this subject under the circumstances of the presentrimes—for they knew very little about these matters some few years/ ago—but see ing the operation whin these duties had had in raising the prices on articles of food, then raising the wages, and which naturally in. creased the rental, it was now well 'known that nothing was so impolitic as that system which tended to raise the prices of any thing whatever which appertained to the necessaries of life. The House should properly follow up the system which had been begun, by which great benefits would be conferred on the country. Look. ing, however, through the whole schedule, he perceived that the principles of the Right Honourable Gentleman were carried into effect by it, except on cottons. There would still be on every other snick swetecting duty. All these duties were particularly injurious. With regard to smuggling, why, he would ask, was the House to pass a Bill with such clauses as were to prevent smuggling ? There was one clause in particular in that Bill, which was as bad and as obimxiuus as the Irish Insurrection Act itself. lie alluded to the clause which subjected vessels to be boarded that were lurking about the coast after sunset. If this schedule of duties had been put upon a right footing. there would have been no necessity for that Act. The schedule now be. fore the House created the necessity of the Bill to prevent smuggle. ing. He trusted the House would some time or other act upon the great principle which the Right Honourable Gentleman ha 4 introduced, and that they should in a short time get rid of all restrictive enactments, which, under the pretence of protection of trade, worked a serious injury to the public. Mr. MAIIERIX considered that the Hon. Baronet who had just sat down had not argued the question fairly. If the Hon. Baronet had attended to the opening speech of the Right Hon. Gent. (the President of the Board of Trade), as to the system he intended to introduce, he would have found what the measure really was which was proptised, and which he did not at present appear clearly to comprehend. The Right Honourable Gentleman came forward this Session, making certain propositions to the House The first was as to the alteration of the Colonial Laws. This branch of his intended system was fully entered into on a postponed day, when a full statement was made to the House; and the Right Hon. Gentleman then made his second proposition, which related to the expediency of revising the scale of duties on our home ma nufactures, and of releasing foreign productions from the protecting duties. The Right Hon. Gentleman never took this question up under the strict rule which the Honourable Baronet had stated, because, if he had, he would have had to ascertain what amount of duty would properly apply to each particular branch of manu facture, which would have been a task too comprehensive and difficult for one individual to have encountered, and would have occupied a larger portion of time than this Session would have afforded. But the lion. Baronet had argued on tie one hand against all protecting duties ; yet when he came to the coosideratio' of the trade and manufactures of his own country, he then admitted an exception to the rule. Linen, said the Hon. Baronet, might be protected at a duty of 25 per cent. (' no !" from Sir Henry Parnell.) He understood the lion. Baronet to say so. The whole question, after all, was a question of expediency, and of time as to when these protecting •du ties should be reduced. When the' Right Hon. Gentleman (the President of the Board of Trade) set. out in his statement, the various rates of duties to be from ICI) to 200 per cent. down to 10 and 21) per cent, the only principle which' he (Mr. 31aberly) understood him to lay down was this, that he would regulate those duties so far that none of them should ex ceed 30 per cent. But hunt had he deviated in that of linen ? He had only done so in point of time. How it was possible for the Right Honourable Gentleman to have gore throug'i such a schedule, and to has deviated so triflingly, was remarkable. lie was perfectly sure that no. Minister had ever been so beset—that so man had had such difficulties to encounter, and no man was more entitled to the thanks of this country than the Right Honourable Gentleman Po the whole of his conduct, in his great condescension to persons who had occasion to consult him, and for the 'efforts he made in coming, upon all questions relating to the commerce of the country, to the soundest conclusions. The cotton trade did nut require the same protection as the linen trade ; to the former the whole attention of the country had been directed, and we compete with all Europe, but it was not so with the linen trade. But, by protecting this trade for seven or eight years mere, and by the improved aid of machinery, they would be able to furnish the articles of this particular branch of our manufacture from 20 to 30 per cent. cheaper than they were now supplied, and when they had arrived at that point this country could put all competition at defiance. The Ri g ht Hon. Gentle man was bound to give those persons who were interested in this trade time to accommodate themselves to the change which the re duction of the duties would necessarily cause ; and he had done wisely to relieve the importunities of those parties whose property was so much involved in the question. He had no hesitation in stating, that In eight yearn time, with a gradual reduction of the duties, the consumer would get his linen much cheaper titan if they had altered the rate of duties altogether. With regard to the Board of Trade, he thought it ought to form a distinct department under Government; that the person to superintend that department should devote the whble of his time to the interests of the trade and com. merce of the country. and that an ample salary should be given him. But at present the President of the Board of Trade had bests considered almost a secondary office. Up to this hour there was no salary , affixed to the principal of this department, so that the Right Hon. Gentleman was doing the duty of it gratuitously. He hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) would take this subject into consideration. The country was highly indebted to the Secretary of the Treasury for the ability and labour which he had used in the compilation of this schedule, which was a consolidation of all the laws relating to that diffused branch, the Customs. The difficulty must hate been immense. It was one of those great improvements in legislation which modem days were beginning to see accomplished, and he hoped the country wrld well reward the individuals whose labours were thus so ably devoted to their service. There was another person who was not backward in giving assistance in this work—he meant Mr. Hume; and he was quite sure, whenever there should be a measure brought forward to to reward this Gentleman, the House would most readily accede to it. lie mentioned these things because lie was generally opposed to rants of the public money; bet he ,A thought these were claims which the country were bound to ac knowledge. Sir 11. PARNELL explained. Mr. T. It'l &SON thought that within the last few years there had been such alterations made in the situation of the country in every department that not an individual could withhold his appro. bation of the course pursued by his Majesty's 51ininters. If the scale of duties which was now proposed should be adopted, he trusted that the revenue laws would stand upon a :ouch better system than they did at present, and that we should not have need of the blockade system, which operated so prejuditially to the country in many ways. Wish respect to the duty on linen, 25 per cent. was certainly very high ; but he watt sure nothing but a kindly feeling towards Ireland could have induced the RiKht Hon. Gentleman to have kept the duty so high. He had, however, stated that it wait his intention that it should be gradually reduced. Though they might in some respects apprehend the effects of thews changes, yet ugon the whole he had no doubt the countcy,would gain great benefits by them. There was athing in the Mums that would amount to an exclusion, and the country would at last show to France and to Eumpe that we were sincere in our intentions, and that we were M length beginning to act upon that new 'system which we had pMfeased. Mr. Tilt IGHT Observed that there was i principle perviding the whole of this ichedule, which trust most materially impede the introduction of goads, which might hereafter be the result of the in. genuity or the fortuitous discovery of foreign countries, into Eng. land. The part of the schedule to which lie alluded was where it stated that all articles not hitherto enumerated should. be subject to duties considerably higher titan those that were enumerated. This clause would necessarily preclude the introduction of many articles of foreign manufacture; and he considered that the words " not enumerated" ought to be struck out of the schedule, and thm any new articles that should come lam thil country shauld have a very trifling duty imposed upon them. He thought the importation of all new articles should be encouraged. The principle which he would introduce into this schedule was this—that in order to encourage our West India Colonies to cultivate various articles which were at present the production of the warmer countries in the South of Europe and in Africa, he would permit such articles to be imported into this country, at a very low rate of duty, from those Colonies only. Almonds and raisins, for instance, he thought might be very profitably cultivated In the West Indies. lie could point nut fifty articles which were not imported, and which might be cultivated in the Colonies, if sufficient encouragement were given to the Colonists. Nothing would tend to advance the interests of those Colonies better than such a system; and which could only be done by the operation of such a schedule as this. It was Well known that East India sugar was iniportei in mats, and which mats were sold in this cruntry at a high price. Now, if the mat ting of the West Indies were allowed to come in free of duty, or at a low rate, for a given time, it would materially promote the indus try of the Colonies, whereas that article was now subject to a duty of 21) per cent. The manufacture of straw and chip hats was carried on extensively in the West Indies. Now, lie would admit the importa tion of these articles, at a reduced scale of duty, for a certain time. This system would give a stimulus to the exertions of the natives, and would be of the highest consequence to the Colonies, without being in any degree injurious to this country. If the Right Hon. Gould not now adopt this suggestion, lie hoped it would be taken into consideration whether he would not, in the next session, strike out of the schedule the clause relating to all the non enumerated articles, and allow the importation of such SS he had mentioned and any other new production, till they should become of sufficient importance in the market to be taxable. Mr. C. ELLISON asked some questions of the Chancellor of the Exchequer in a low tone of voice, respecting the duty, as see understood him, on certain kinds of coal which were brought coast ' wise from Newcastle. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER raid the reason why he did not go into the subject of the Duty on Coals, was that which would in fact apply to all the other articles which had been mentioned by the Hon. Gentlemen who had spoken to-night; namely, because it wan impossible not to speak of the imprudence of attempting to deal with every thing at once. With re gard to the duty of six shillings a chaklron on coal going coast wise, it was stated that there was a certain kind of coal which would not bear that duty ;it was therefore propo sed to charge a duty of ls. instead of Ss. on that particular kin of coal. The coal to which he alluded was a small sort, which was con sumed at the pits, without producing any profit to the owner. He had been told, that if this coal were allowed to come into con sumption at a low duty, it might be very beneficial to the poorer classes of persons, who would purchase it owing to the cheapness at which it would be sold. Professor Dockland had, in the strongest terms, recomnieuded this plan in the alterations to be made in the scale of custom duties ; but it was impossible not to see that there was some risk to the revenue is adopting this measure, by persons being induced to substitute this small coal for the other sort of coal which they had been in the habit of using. This was a very strong reason therefore why he did not apply the same principle to the two other bads of coat which had been men tioned by the Hon. Member for Newcastle. Besides, he would re peat, in such an extensive undertaking it was an utter impossibi lity to rewilate all these matters at once. Nobody it seemed ob jected to the alterations which were proposed, but the only com plaint was why were not those alterations applied to other things. He thought it would be better to wsit and see what would be the effects of those alterations rather than bring all things under the operation of a new system at the same moment. If they went to the full length recommended from the other side, they would have more irons in the fi re than they could well get out ; and he thought it not injudicious to urge this consideration, if it were only with a view to repress the eagerness which in some guar_ ten appeared to exist on this subject. He wits persuaded that a wise perseverance in the course that had been commenced, would be productive of more advantage to all the interests concerned, than rash and precipitate measures. He admitted freely that it was the duty of ,linisters to fix their attention on every one of the minute details which the proper regulation of the customs required ; but he had little difficulty in saying, that not one of the various articles included in that schedule was rated any higher than was con sistent with sound commercial principles, and to that he would add the expression of his full conviction that his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Huskisson) had effected all that could be considered judicious, or even safe, in the course of one Session, and that they should not be urged beyond that sound and rational limit. Mr. R. GORDON thought it would be desirable to place the Colonies on the same footing with regard to duties that the Isle of Man stood. (To this we understood the Chancellor of the Exche quer to assert%) The Hon. Gentleman proceeded to say, that being embchlened by that success, he would proceed further. He then went into the enumeration of several articles of luxury, which were, he conceived, too heavily taxed. Sir T. A( LA ND observed, that it would be advantageous to make the duty on small coals used for burning lime the same as that on Newcastle coals. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was understood to express; his willingness to agree to a reduction of the duty. Mr. HUME wished to enforce still further what had been so well said respecting the introduction of new articles of commerce from the southern statesof America. In order to show that all the du ties in the schedule were against principle, he examined and re marked upon several of them; he said it was most inconsistent to lay a heavy duty upon ashes, and at the same time establish a pro tection for linen, Ofthe duties on soap and drugs lie also com plained, as well we of those imposed on hemp and sail-cloth. The duties levied on blubber were likewise found inconvenient, owing to the necessity of measuring it; this latter observation he made at the sugg. scion of the nierchants of Aberdeen; MOCIVO6C, and otter places in the north of Scotland. Mr. HUSKISSON, in his reply, maintained that without the check of non-enumerated articles, it would be impossible for the offi:ers engaged in the collection of the revenue to guard against the many frauds that would be committed by merely picking slight alteration in the nature sod quality of the taxed articles, so as to evade the law. With regard to mite introduction of new articles of commerce from South America, he could assure the Hon. Members opposite, and the House generally, that there existed, both at the Treasury and the Board of Trade, a disposition to give every faci. lity to that most beneficial mode of extending our commercial rein. tiona. In the views of the lion. Member for Bristol (Mr. Bright) respecting the encouragement which he wished to give to the pro duction of other articles in the West Indies besides sugar and rum, he fully concurred ; and he doubted not that it would be in the re collection of the House that in the month of March, when he ad. dressed the House at length upon the subject then under their can. sideration, he expressed himself lb's similar effect, wishing much to give every encouragement to the West Indian proprietors to exert themselves on something more than sugar and rum. He then enumerated no lees than six-and4wenty different articles, to the cultivation of which in the West Indies he wished to give encouragement. To that number he could then add fourteen others, and he would rejoice to extend the list much further on such suggestions as he might receive ; and he sincerely trusted that the proprietors, both large and small, would do all in their power to favour such an extension of cultivation, and to induce the ne. groes, in their own portions of ground, to grow as many articles as they could, in addition to what they had been hitherto accustomed to cultivate. Silk he would suggest as deserving their attention, but above all he would recommend the cultivation of corn, so as if possible to save the inhabitants of the West Indies the necessity of being dependent upon the United States and Europe for food. They would be infinitely better employed in doing that than In forcing the cultivation of sugar so far beyond the demand of the European market. Though he concurred with what fell from the Hon. Member for Bristol (Mr. Bright) relative to platted straw and other West India products, he stiff most observe, that several of his remarks were inconsistent with each other. To the com plaints which had been made against particular items in that sche dule he would reply generally, that in the month of March last he had not made any undertaking that he would move the repeal of every duty against which a plausible objection might be started ; for what he then proposed was. the repeal of such duties as affected commodities necessary to the success of our manufactures. lie did not undertake to repeal all the duties on the book of rates. He urged the lion. Members who had taken share in the conver sation not to press their views so strenuously. In reply to what had fallen from the lion. Ilan. he would say that his Right Hon. Friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had done more in one or two Stations towards relieving commerce front the undue restraints under which it laboured than had been effected for a century before. He should therefore repeat that nothing would be attended with worse effects than detroying the unity and consistency of the plan which he was pursuing with all the vigour that was pendent or ne cessary. When he read in certain periodical publications com plaints that they were proceeding not only too rapidly but unwisely in removing the restraints of commerce—when he heard that they did wrong in trading with poor countries lest they should become rich, and with those already wealthy lest their possessions should become too great, and their ambition proportionably augmented, he looked with confidence and satisfaction to the sanction the Rouse gave his Colleagues and hint in o.e cu urs2 they were put. wing. After a few words from 31r. Brigh.. Mr. 8. Rice, f:+mt. Mo berly, Sir H. Parnell, Mr. Alderman Thumpson, Mr. Alderman Wood, Mr. J. P. Grant, Mr. liuskisaon, aid Mr. Denman, the Reim'winos were agreed tn. The House then resumed, and the Report was ordered to be brought up tomorrow (this (ley.) APOTHECARIES BILL. On the motion of Mr. BROUGHAM the House resolved Itself into a Committee on the Apothresrits Bill. Mr. ABBIICRO3IIIY moved an autendinent, that the opera. tion of the Bill be but foe one year. Mr. BROUGHAM objected to the amendment, as the evils of the, perpetual Bill ought not to be remedied by a immune of a tern. porary nature. The Apo'hecaries would be obliged, though this chusse were to pass, to mate application to the House neat year. After a few words from Mr. DENMAN and HUMS, the amend ment was negatived without a division, and the Report was or dered roe Monday. FELONIES COUNSEL BILL. The A TTO RNEV-OE NE RA L moved that the Fekthiew Counsel Bill be read attain that day three niotiths.—Agreed to. 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Tin Principal Character. by Mr. and Rte. Noble. A.. To conclude with THE ADOPTED CHILD. Michael, Mr.Viallack. DRURY-I.ANE THEATRE. MR. WALLACK'S BENEFIT. On TUESDAY EVENING. June 21. u U be perfarrnett lIENIU QUATRE. Head Quatre, Mr.Wattm•tc ; Louisan, Illeg Stephens. After which GIOVANNI IN LONDON. Don Giovanni, Madame Weetrltt. Ti eonelude with THE CHILDREN IN THE WOOD. Walter, Mr. Itatlack. COVENT-GARDEN THEATRE. This Evening. SATURDAY, June 18. will be parforleted THE CHILD OF NATURE. Amanthis, Miss Foote. After which, LOFTY PROJECTS; or, ARTS IN AN ATTIC. gr. Valentine Versatile Mr. Yates. To conclude with DER VREISCHUTZ. Caspar, Yr. Bennett; Wilhelm. Mr. rearman: Kilian. 11r. Keo:ey. Dertha, Miss Aston; Leis, Nibs Lobe. H.4Y,if ARKET 7WF;.I.7'RE. This Eye!Shilt. SITURDAV, June IS. wl,ll be performed TN IBUL t)X or. UNN% ELCOME VISITORS. The Characters by Ifeava. Dowton. Vining. and Raymond; Mesdames Davison and Glover. Attar. w Web THE RIVALS, iblr.,Antbony Absolute, Mr. newton ; Captain Absolute. Mr.VlDrog: Pouticland. Mr. Raymond; Acn s, Mr. LIA,,n. Mn. Modalvoe• Glover; Julia, Mrs. Davison: Lydia Languish, Mn. Rutney. eoarlude with &MINA. ltoaina, YLaGeurp HOUSR. Ttfe PERFORMERS and all PERSONS ENGAGED for the SUNNIER SEASON are requested to Assemble on the Stage on THURSO tN NEXT. June 23, 1t42:,. at Twelve o•Clock, preparatory to the Open us of the Theatre. which will take place on Thnroday, June 30. June 11. 3825. (Signed) - R. 11. PEAKE. ROYAL GARDENS. VAUXHALL. UNDER THE ESPECIAL PATRONAGE OI MI jai ESTI . .GRAND WATERLOO YE I E. The Proprietors respeetrollyaccinalut the Public, that the Anr.tver pry of the Battle of Waterloo happening This Day, Saturday, It is their intention to Celebrate the same on Monday Next, the atitll JUN:. by a GRAND MILITARY FETE, on a most superb stair, the pa-::ct. • tars of whlcia will be given In the Papers of To -morrow and hic,:ol.:, The Berrtsm PitissaconomeneeoOuirllahing yesterday morri'g at half.peet five o'clock. LONDON, SATURDAY. JUNE 18, 1823. The Paris Papers which arrived last night, are qttitc. barren of political intelligence. Their columns are till, d with tedious dissertations on topics of mere party intercc.. The following arc extracts:- IFront the Moniteur of Wednesday, June 15.—Official Parr Pants, Jrra: 14. Baron Eve!, Envoy Extraordinary and .Minister Pieraipo e-;- tiary of his Majesty the King of the Netherlands. mesen el to the King, on the 244 Slay, in the name of his Sovereign, the insignit of Military Order of the Netherlands. (Non-official Part.) Yesterday evening there was a grand family dinner in his Ma• jesty's apartments. The Duke and Duchess otloans, Mede maiselle d'()rleana, and the 1 Puke of Bourhon were prc,ent. The King and the Royal Family went to the ball in the Cleatri if the palace. Their Majesty's the King and Queen of Wir!emburgli. the Ministers of State, Marshals of France, many Cenend O ffi cer-. the diplomatic body, and a great numbe r of lathe.. dressed with great splendor were ahiong the company assembled, the appear' f t , 1r:111 raim r.ok I 61) c. de 1‘ lop Thn coal ish.o MS ' A littl cum 76 eta Xi cv P in IN ii • t on Fr ua 31.)