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Admiral HARVEY cid 7:e tild riot think witness Wei drunk. .• Mr. Pct VAL.•-•" Thai he should not have beds renamed." Mr. DECTS 1311nWItr: st:t. he either was drunk, or was not. If drunk, evidence should be es.- puneol ; if not to is esti tome sou shoithl be continued. Acr. Fus.t.tlit thies_ost, that as there were so many contrary spumous, a iris, v should be called again ; and whether reelsug (Ironic or not, ong(ht to he al lowed fair play. After a few Aare words from Mr. BARHAU, Mr. PERCF.VAI., east qr. 31(1iost all WHS Q. In what,ear did you live with Samuel Car ta., at Mrs. Clarke b I do not knobs. Q. W . VA_ it in Isms cassuot recollect; I hi guess. Q. What do you gness ?—A. I can ttll partly, can 11 . !itr/y • I sin not recollect the date. It is no use to say I can ; I said I conk] 110 before. Q. Is it within four years ?—A.I think it is. Q. Is it is i :bill six ?—A. I causiot ray; if I cugid - :ecoliect, Ise ed not h a ve said I I Until 1110 t. 1 4. 17Iten did )on quit Mrs. elarke's service,?- -A. IC4 MO: ev. I cannot recollect the time. 14. ynis wear livery ?—.l. 1 . 1%. ad Samuel Carter ? 1. No. 'CI. When were you summoned to attend this Itsitse ?—.l. I hare forgo:ie.' that. (4. When di l von het the notice, at what hour —A. lVtiest did 1 get the notice ! I cannot tell justly. 14. Was it yesterday or this day you rere;ved the whim. to attend this ilousis ?—.l. I did attend ; I git it ea Monday ; I got one this nfteruoon. (Wi:,tiess withdrew.] Colonel VIIII.r.KEt: appealed to the Coaimittee, whether he was tint borne out us his first assertion and desired his ev:denee might be read, wkish was accordingly done, when these was a geuesel cry of "go on,•' nod MRS. FAVOURITF.. Iran called, mid examinetl by Mr. Watt/Kr. Q. Did you lir.. hotimAreper iu Gloucester place. with Mr.. Clarke ?—A. I did. Do you recollect a footman of the name of fla•tinel Carter Yea. Q. Was 1..• in the habit of waiting upon the Duke of Yo. k ?—A. Yes, he was. Q. Po you know Miss Taylor ?—A. Yes. Q. tto you reeolket any thing about a note be ing clia:iged a short time befor e th e D u k e o f York went to Weymouth, and Mrs. Clarke went to Wor thing A. Yes I :to ; the Duke's servant came ; 1 gar- :,• n the note, but do not recollect its einsona' , he gave me bark I gave to the Duke; in short, they were both in bt•el at the tiny.. Q. Who wa.. t'aat servant ?—A Ludaric; he is a German. Q. Was Samuel Carter in the habit of doing the duty of a footman ?—A. lie ele4ued kasves, attended the carriage, and waited at table. Q. Was not Mrs. Clarke. to your own know ledge, Wing at • great expense ia Gloucester plesee ?--A. Certainly she was ; sometimes she kept two men cooks, sometimes three. Q. Were those cooks employed ia naves of pnrtieuLr dinners, or how war it I—A. Set Sei ne s dinner forof. very particular. and spared no expense. lithe Dake did not Ii ke his dinner, or if Ixe found fault, Nlra. Clarke vronlel have another prepared. Q. iia,e von often known Mrs. Clarke• distressed for money ?—.l. She never could pay properly after the first quarter. The tradespeople tr.ed to charge me with receiriug, thew money and keep ing it. Q. Where did you live first with Mrs. Clarke ?-.. A. in Gloucester-place. Q. (hij the Arronsisr-Litrinast.4 Did you Iviow Mrs. Clarke before she lived in Gloucester , place '—.l. Yea. Q. Hoe long have you known her?—A. About 10 year., or wore. (5. How stilich more s'—A. I cannot say. Q. Have you knows her twenty years not twenty. Q. Where did you first know her?—A. At Ilampste3d. Q. Did you oot know her before?-4. Yrs, six osoothsafter she was married to Mr. Clarke. Q. Who first recommended you to lls. Clarke? —R. The paper. Q. Do you mean lie advertisement ?—A. Yes. Q. Did you know nothing of Mrs. Clarke till *en ?—A.- No, I did.not. "Q. Did you go with Mrs. Clarke to Gloucester place?—.A. Yes; 1 went with her from Tarim wit-place. Where did you live before?—Witness asked whether she must answer that question ; the Chair man told her she must, and the question was IT. peated.—A. I cannot recollect, I was in the ser vice of another Q. What family were you with ?.—A. The fa• mily i. dead. I was in Kent. Q. Where did they live ?—A. In the eity. He VIM a carpenter. Q. Iu what part of the city ?—A. I cannot re collect. They had a shop is one part, and lodg ioirs in anothi r. Q. In what part did they keep • shop?—A. I clunnt recollect. Hnw long did you lire with them ?—A. Two : : .e Q. In nh t part did they lodgings?—.t. 1 r.aiinot say. Tli,,v hail lodgings in different places. I was at thrgate, Raiusg.tte, Brighton, and other They were all single Q. Why del yin say they were a firmly :*-1. There were Mr. lnd Mr 4. Edwards, null two chil dren. Q. Yon suy they had lodging's in difl'.•rent phees.—whAt ',laves were they F.—A. It I. is lent my memory ; 1 cannot Q. In how many ditTerent lorlitings Aid that• re side. while you wale with them I cannot re collect. /By edWWI VAronv4.) Where diii Mn'. Clarke live whets you knew her brit I—.l. I ,10 not rceolleret. Q. Flow then do you recollect when lived a....!1 Mrs. Ellis.—.l. I lived longer iiith Alrs. .4te. . Q. 00 yolk not live two ,yearn with Mrs. Ellin ? Q. Do yon recollect where '—it. I lived some time at Margate. (4. Yon said Mr. Erna kept a shop at one part of the town, and laalgitags at another—how then could you say tlta:y were roaming about ?—A. can't for any part tell how they managed those things. Q. (Fey Gown!! l'utrPs). 'nu deny that 3 ..,11 arc MI'S. Clarke ' S 31 , 411' r— I do. Q. (By JM. UiitRQRTj. Dui you pity smy of Mrs. Clarke . * servants; their wiles ?—A. 1 did. Q. Did yeti ever pay Carter r—A. VI S. Q. For whet ?—A. gave lion money to buy %hoes and other thisi;to Q. Do you recollect any agreement respect inv. wages I do riot recollect. . _ Q. (Ry Mr. liv.ansaT). Yon stated that you were housekeepi r to Mrs. Clarke, and that she had an expensive establisliment—what slumber of persons were them in the family ?--.A. Then, were four men servants, besides a butler, a I i a kitchen-maid, a little girl, myself. and a char woman. Q. You stated that her situation was embar rassed, WA that s•on were applied to be ui.uiytltf ferent creditors. hid you mention those app .-awn* to Mrs. Clarke ?—A. Yes ; she said that his Royal Highness wax barkwnrd in his payments. Q. Did Mrs. Clarke ever mention to you th.it h•a Royal Highness had given her money to discharge those debts ?—A. I do not recollect. Q. Did you ever mention to her that yen wished she would ask money from the Doke or York for that purpcsse ?—A. Yes, I did. Q. What did she answer?--A. She said. f•st •all would be paid as soon as she saw his Royal Highness. Q. Were these debts paid ?—A. Yes. Q. Can yon say to your own knowledge how many of those debts were afterwards paid ?-4. There were some debts paid, among otist rs the butcher• and baker. Q. Upon your application to Mrs. Clarke, did she apply to the Duk of York; and have you known many of the debts to have been paid A. Yes, many. Q. (By Mr. WARDLL.) Did you know Captain Sutton by sight ?—A. Yes. Q. Fled he only one eye ?—A. Yes. Q. To what regiment did he belong ?—A. I do not know. Q. Are you still a servant to Mrs. Clarke ?—Yes. Q. Have you had any conversation wit!' her since the commencement of this investigati,iis ?—A. No. Q. (By Mr. Biagsroati.) You said, you poi.' the servants' wages ; how Mall men servings .ver.: there ?—A. A coachman, besides four weu Ili the stable; I Kaye them money generally once a week. Q. How many were there in all ?—A. Five in the stable, three in the house. Q. We;e all the servants upon annual standing wages ?—A. Yes. they were all yearly servants. Ce. (By Sir JANE! 611.411 AU.) YOU Said there were two cooks, and three employed upon particu lar occasions ; did you mean by these particular occasions, when you had large company ?—A. No ; this was when first I went to Mrs. Clarke—we bad no large companies. Q. (81, Mr. WILIBLRFOUCE.) Do you know who furnished the house at Gloucester-place ?—No. Q. Do you know wise furnished the upholstery ? —A. Mr. Okeley. Q. Who the ►hiva and glass I—A. Some per son in Oxford-street. Q. Who furnished the grades Summers and Hose, in Bowl—treet. Q. Who wie the silversmith ?--A. Birltett. Q. Who the wine-merchant ?—A. I don't know. Q. You spoke of two and three rooks who at tendad on particular occasions ; what money was paid to them ?—A. One K 111114.14. Q. Did you consider that us only for the day, or as part of the online' wages ?—A. Only for the du b . Q. Were you Mrs. Clarke's own maid, or was there another ?—.A. I was her own maid arid houseki.eper together. Q. Do you know !Mr. Drawler ?-1I bare seen him. lave you semi IMO frequently at tiloneesttr place ?—.l. I have. Q. Do yon know did he ever sleep there at night?—A. Neier. (4. Did you ever convey any message to the tradesmen Mrs. Clarke employed ?—A. Yes. Q. Did the tradesmen willingly give articles on Mrs. Clarke's authority ?—A. Yes. Q. Did you use any arguments to induce them when unwilliog?-ssA. No; I said when she had money she would pay them. Q. Did they tell you they looked to a better paysteiniter than Mrs. Clarke ?—A. They asked me whether the Diik‘: of York paid her ? I said not. Q. Do you know was Captain Suttou in the habit of visiting at Mrs. Clarke's, before Samuel Carter Caine to her boas- ?—A. Yes, he was. Q. When he came to Mrs. Clarke, was lie not in the habit of bringing Samuel Carter as a com panion along with hint ?—A. I do not know ; lie brought him with him certainly. Q. When lie did eat Carter in the habit of go ing into the parlour ?—A. No. - Q. (By Mr. l'et.Teecv). When Mrs. Clarke lived at Clouctaiter-place, what number of servants had she ?—A. When Samuel Carter tint came there were two servants, a coachman and butler. Q. (By Sir (Moans: W•lilltENDin.) Did you eve; see Samuel Carter after he got the commission in the Ariny ?—A. I do not recollect seeing him. Q. Did he get the commission while in NIT*. Clarke's service?—:l. Yes. Q. (14 the ATTORNIT.GBNERAI..) What is your ntune• ?—A. My real name is Favourite. Q. Are you warned ?—A. No Q. (By a NIEMBER.) By what mime was Carter known to his Royal Highniaa, as Saw or Carter ? —A. We a.td to call him SAM Q. Was he known by the name of Carter to his Rosal HiKlineies ?—A. Yes. 0. Did Samuel Carter appear to he a man of manlier. and education for one in such a iwatiuu ?—A. I do not know ; lie was very well. Q. Did any of the either servants dine at the same table with yan when you lived with Mr.. ( larke at Gloucester-place?—.t. Yrs; I sat down to table with them all. Q. (B, Mr. Wit orr.roacr.) Dal any bod)• but yourself go to the traclumieik about article. of fur niture ?—.A. I never went. I sent a rerbunt al ways. Mr. M Dowell smelly went. Q. Did eny bolt' else go Yes: Pearson. Q. Did any person of the name of Taylor go ? —4. I am not sure ; he might Iss sews les XLriw Clarke, hut MB3 not by me. Q. /By Sir it WitA.l.taas.) Was Mrs. Clarke in the habit of receiving vistts from other Gentle men besides the Dike of York ?-4. Yes, several gentlimim came to her. Q. Do yor reeidicet whether these Gentlemen were considered as nets ?—A. Ido not kflow. Q. Was the coaclimm of the Number of those who dined with you ?—A. Q. Do you know whetherCapitain Wallis visited there? —A. I do nut know, 1 only remember tht name. Mr. WARDLE stated, that he wisloal to ask Mr. Greenwood some questions, but as lie was nut pre sent he would wish to ask Mrs. Clarke acitue questions. Q. (By a Member,. I wish to ask the Hon. C'rentlen.ais opposite a question respecting Mrs. Clarke's letter to Mr. Donovan : there is a vitssw 4 e in it, stating, " I will be candid to tun von, that. in order to facilitate the negociatiow, i gave him two of our letters, to which you name the Quern." Did him Choke give these letters to the Hon. Member f—A. I never had any negotiation with Mrs. Clarke in my life : I do not knew what she could meant by the word negociution. Q. (By Sir M. B. Fon Laus). Are these the letters you took from her'-.-A. I took . some leo ter, trout her, as I stated before; but I (Amon conceive what shitnieaut by the word wegociation. Q. Had you at other letters from Mr. alico au to Mrs. Clarke, or are 'Striae what you took bum ?—A. I had other letters of Mr. Doa:u an's, which she gave use, and vii whieh I examined Min at this bar. Q. (Sy Mr. PtacevAL.l For what purpow did Mrs. Clarke give you thane lettern ?--A. 1 du not Q. Did you never ask Mrs. Clarke what she meant by the wool negnenition ?—A. I do not know ;if I did, she gave me no answer—l ie member the enpression struck me. Q. (By it,. SPENctit ST.C.HOPI.) Dad site mention the iiegociation to you ?—A. I never heard any thing respecting negociation, except abet this letter rontsit sie sl„ Mrs. Clarke was then called in— Q. (By Sir TVILTON.) Let the letter on the table, Without a seal. be shewn to the Witbei , .; (the letter was accortliugly given her). To whom was this letter addressed To his Royal Highness the Duke of York. llow did it cause into your posses.iion ?—A. I hail it to show to the Uuke of York ; cud, I sup pose, after re:tiling it, he gave it to ma. Q. Am I to understand Out it was iuldressed to you i—A. It was. Q. By whom ?—A. Mr. Ellerton. Q. AM I to understand, that it was inclosed iu another to you by Mr. Ellerton ?—A. Yea. Q. Did you hew it to tint Duke of Yolk.—A. I am positive I did. Q. Did the Duke of York give you ilia lettits after he had read them ?—A. Yes, 1 should hose destroyed them. Q. bid you understand th.tt Samuel Carter was a rim son of Capt. Sutton'—A. 1 do not know, he might have been reported to be such. Q. Did Capt. Sutton educate him ?—.A. I be lieve he took some pains with him in iris lLmaure hours. Q. To what re2irnent did he belong 1. I do not know ; lie held a rituatien .tt and nos esteemed a friend of the Pei,iee of Wide. and Duke of Yolk for twelve years back. Q. Did you not regard Samuel Carter in a su perior light to your other servants ?—A. Vey, he was very foithful to me. Q. Did you ever make any return to the Income Tax No. Q. Were you ever assessed for horse% carnages, en-servants. ?-4. Ye 4. Q. Can you recollect the, number?—A. I used to forget a great number when they were put down. .Ir. LOCKE, wished that NIG Donosan letter to Mrs. Clarke should he ',hewn to her; which was done. Q. Did you give those letters here allud,.d to, to Mr. Wardle, in order to facilitate the negocia tion Yes; those are not the letters Mr. War dle ran away with, but letters from Field Officers ressommentling Lieutenants to companies ; they were to pay 400 guinea's above the regulation ; they said this war the last job Mr. Greenwood would do ; sod I was told it was necessary to get the recommendation of some General Officer, or of a Member of Parliament. Q. Did yon glee Mr. Wardle the letter men tioning the Queen and the two deaneries?—A. I ilia not give him those letters ; he took them ; the letter I gave referred to the commissions ; I gave him one, and two or three to General Clavering. Q. Flow did you suppose that delivering the Inter to Mr. Wardle would facilitate the neg-isci. ation 1 thought so, he told me so. It was to be dour by Gentlemen not belonKing to the Opposition ; I knew that reconiusendations from that side would not do. Q. What sort of ncgociation did those letters allude to ?—A. To recommendations for the young men. such as General Clavering wus to get fur Mr. Turner. Q. Did the Duke of York ever tell you he was informed that you received money for commissions in the army ?—,t. No ; no one dare tell him so. Q. Did the Duke of York tell you by what niestis the disposal of comoth , sions appesred re gular iii the °diet ?—A. No, he only Raid •he would take care that Hll should he right. [ru e Witn e ss sus or&red to withdrnw.l Mr. WARDLE rose to state what was n 077 lirought to ke, revoihretton with respect to the iiegriciaiitin mentioned by Mrs. Clarke. She did apply to him for the purpose of procuring the signatures of Members of Parliament ; but he said his friends wart to tlw Opposition. One letter wing:yen to him, and the three or four remaiii4 4 to General o I did not know till now what she meant by the word negotionoot" Q. (By 21/r. Brat.sroand Have you any objec tion to give those letters in f—A. No. Q. Are the letters requiring the signatur es o f Members of Parliament given in ?-a-A. If they are not laid upon the Table they skill. Q Dore yom any obje.,:tian 'phew Abase Attkeis ~: ~ ri which on oistained front her by linhaways and otlieroiai• F--A. I have no objection that all those lettere , re lolling oornmisnions, or any thing 'e victor.; tnetasinemi before tlie shOill.l he Sir GEOltiit HILL objected tw the flonotiral,:ii Member I ' ling conversation with A Nub' ' lAEA ne:ir hiin, • at a time when he mis gßilig , Iris c%;- ‘l,-,act, ‘rill'ennEADinsisted that every Nlciaber a right to Jo so. Mr. 11't,inii4S1 said, that as the 1!•in. Member was going; to speak not to a ni.itter o: fact, bat to give an opinion on the cour.,e Iv• ..nalti to the production of c . ..rtisisi pato he• itl.llll,d iu speaking to thosetiroulul him, mid Lski.% tileir advice. Sir (i. litt.t. exidulised: Lord Fut.sisT‘iaii raid, he thonght the elm rtaihaltott War, nail stroke to him upon pike another inutter.—( Hear ! Hear I) ,Ir. l'F.acv:v it. thought the House I.lsould not go 11110 that general question ; but if thct• were to ((chute it, be could nut see why a Meinher of Parr liniment, examined as a witness, shunlit privilege diNtinct from a witness without a seat i.i the House. Mr. WI %purist said. that RS the liodourahle Meinher was only about to give an a l umnus a; to the wanner in which he would regulate hi pr.; of the lettent, all that Lad been Kn.! tsy jhe It Hon. Geatleinan with respect to to:4 . 1:11011y ii , •t apply. ( Hear ! bear !) S'r G. litt.t. explained. Mr. CA !4 . b1 !NG uoiderstoexl that the Hon. G.n. ..- tlemau on the floor (Mr. Whitorm apprarset to him to maintain,.that, even mu wane's., a :Wernher had aright to consult with those iirouad cry of no! no!/ Mr. I.VIIITiIItrAD stated, he bad said, that a :Weather of Parliament had aright to communicate ith idiom he pleased, but not on the suhiect of an answer, when extuni•!erl as a want leer .• Hear .9—tie thought that the otarervatimi • !lon. fisronet cast au imputation a l ma his fr,eisd, for proceeding in a course not only unb ecoming a Member of Parliament, lout unbecoming u man. Mr. C•NNING understood that the Him. Gentle man had drawn a distinction between out ordifiari witness and a Member of Parliasient.—(Cry No/ No!/ Mr. WHITBREAD denied that be had ever qitsl so ; froat first to last he had said, and would stiil say, that his Hon. Friend had* right to communi cate with those around him. Mr. fizmairoari wished the last question to be read, which was done, and Mr. WARDLL deemed his last answer to be read also. Q. Have you any ohjection 10 . ..h0y any other letters )ou have received fraen .Mr e . Clarke he ff.re the Howse. besides these which apply to :he gatie.-•-(Cry as.) Q. I f are you any other letters ?—(Cry of N0,,r0. no.';-1 du not svosii to hoe' the feelings of the Han. Gentleman, and their/fare will only require• such letters as apply to sire case f—A. No letters shall In. withheld I' em ,iie Home that may be ne cessary to assist this iiivest4cition ; from the ti;ist moment to the preaent I have not attempted to withhold any thing; my conduct, I think, docs iint_i astir,- the attack that has be e n ramie opaline. Mr. thiainrycrits ssee, tiwt he meant nu attack upon the Hon. Member. Mr. WARDLE did not accowe him of at , acking him ; be alluded to an lion. ts.voi.et on the oho had attacked hire in a wanner di it he fit J. - - rarely. Sir G. Hst.t. rose *mishit acrt• of Order ! Order ! and WA, obliged to sit noon. • Q. Are the letters alludertAo in this letter on ti.e Talule ?—A. No. Sir Gutur. thew mse. ord vie!, t! , :e: he l:a•I disposition to attack the Hon. Member who itnd t itf• conducting of so weighty a eLarge t he acted as I.e did, because he thought it his duty.' Q. (By Mr. LOCKHART) When did you rcreiee Mrs. Clarke's letter, in which she mentioned Du saran's letter ?—A. I hare no memorandum. Mr. Greenwood was called to the Bar. Q. (By Mr. WARDLE.) Is Mr.Froom — employed in your office ?—A. No. Q. Did he not come to town to stipp'y the place of one of your clerks ?—A. No, he rattle t.. to town to settle the accounts of the Military Col lege. Q. Are they finished ?—A. No. Q. Where is he settling them ?—A. In the neighbourhood of Charing -crow', near my office. Q. (By General Lorres). Are yon, or have vow been Agent to the 27th Dragoon Guards !)--A. Q. Had you ever any quarrel with the Duke of York on his recommending a person for the situa tion of Paymaster ?--.1. Certainly not. The Co lonel of the regiment recommends the candidate to the Secretary at War ; the Duke of York lima eat any thing to do with it. bet lav the appointsisr.it before His Majesty for his approlattion. Q. (By Lord FOLIKATONE.) Do you know Mrs. Clarke ?—A. I never saw her in my life. Q. Did you eter write to her i—A. I beliete one note. Q. Do you know Mr. Ellerton ?—A. Y es . Q. Did . the Duke of York ever ap;:ly to you to recommend him to the situation of paymit,tvi The Duke of York told Wse such a per,. would call on me, and I might make inquiries as to his being eligible. Q. (Hy Mr. WARDLE.) Did you aver receive a note nom MN. Clarke ?—A. Y s. Q. What were the eniiteots of it ?—A. To ;ask my interference with the !Julie of York, respeo:ing her hrother, Mr. Thompson ; I believe lin was ;a Cie dia , _:oon4. Q. Who carried your note to Mrs. Clarke ? A. Mr. 'Taylor. Q. Did not you send Mr. Taylor with a sage to Mrs. Clarke, repressing tour clisapto,ii.i. bun, OP account of having heard that she .it witn Finnerty.'—A. I did not. Q. How long was Mr. Froom iu your oGi e, before you first ported ?—A. I believe four or the years; I parted with him when I first heard he add got a commission. Q. (By Lord Fuemrrost.) Do you koala Mr .. Sinclair Sistberiaad i:.—A. Yes ; I knew her t 0.4. it sat or seviallears ago. Q. Have you often aeon her since ?-4