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IMPERIAL PARLIA3IEA7. HOUSE OF LOROS —Fe itia•, MARCH 1 The R .yal "Vomit is .n by Commixanus vu the I.7*y Lts.sit Rill, the Greenland Whale Fishery, and the Crewk hem Road Bill. The Lords Commissioners were the Lord Chancellin s laord Waisnighais, and Lord Auckland. The Bins upon the Table Were forwarded in their respeCtive stages: among these, the Qearantine Bill, and the Rea. Mr. tens's Nathralisation Bill, were read a third time and pasted. The considetarirm of the Apped Cause Bindermin e. Ban • Parton being returned, the Loot . Chancellor quitted the Wooliack, and made sonic firths observations uponthe.ease He concluded by moving a resolution, importing a special de, citron, wi:ich went to dismiss ti e appeal, as far ae tespecteet two certain niterloeutors in the ease, allowi ig the parties per museum to apply again to the Conte of Ses,ion, &c.; which was agreed to by their Lonlahips,-...Adjourued till M o nday. HOUSF. OF COMMONS. The Sheriffs of the City of London resented a Petition from the Lod Mayer, Aldermen, arid Common Council Of that City, playing for the adoption of some additional regulatioas in the Coal Tiede p end atm, another, praying for leave to rein n 0..., r:ie ;mums. some improvelnents in the e • e.s. of Ili , Port of London ; bolt of which were brdered Tattle. it. • •A .s then surnmonol by the Usher of the Black ti r.ttsii I the Loot: Ca....., inert in the other House, and theSpeeker oat hie iroorittequainted them that the Royal Atiaa.t .had term gavels by Oeurmis.ton to the Loyalty Loan, the 0104111%4 ettailt leeway, sal snow Private Oslo Lgeremat .glres Its bring ion P.ll for erecting a better ass. teitsof rdice is Oa boy of Fdina4,o avid places adjacent aniteilat tomato beintin als for the butding Wet Doeka lit thotentret &agates ant Mug. A m-aile from the Lords annoaneed that they had agreed to the Qat. attintilliU. Mr. "I DORNTIaIe bulimia up a Petition from the Court of Director of the Sierra tone Compai.y, F raying the urval Amnia! Octet of 10000 k and other retlet.--011ered to lie rii: the Table, Mr. P MOORE pretend a Petition from a great number of Calle* MAnufadurets, rit difibeist comitioi, praying i.e the aid r -deustsit,.fn ...aiding them to seole, in an ainiealile man ier, aid without env litigation, the differences subsisting ts.lsreen them and their empo n re. Mr. SID,RIOAN w d, that havine last Session presented a Pesiterri to the House, from the same parte.", he did nut ex pelt that tiny Eptther application wouid have been asotaght neistearj..: Ho Majied the matter might be aecriminedated in ' filially way ; Mir if lint, tb.re Were SU , tISCIi.MiI points stated m erne Pentimr, Via he should think it Ins duty to give it emery suttpottnn hie power. The Petition was then ordered to Ire oil the tame. Lord BOYLE protested a Petition, from the retail dealers of Liutdonderry, against the 61. per cent, duties in Ireton., which, he said were/Imo' oi very oppressive and disadvantageous, that he WI L'•vt Ott it was the intention of -the wholesale merchants of n 1,31141112 place tat prevent &simile: Petition. lard,red to lie on rise table. Mr. CA LCR A FT moved ler a new writ for the Borough of Hoot it, w Deionsitire, in the room of George Shum, Esq. vied. Ordered Tire SECRETARY at WAR presented an accritintof the tramber of recruits rood ii. the Army of Reserse, hoot the lit M.ll, n.,iy, um, to the Ist id January, IRS, detiuguish ing the tiaimber salved in each month. Ordered to be printed . MUTINY T.L. .The House having resolved itself into a Commit tee on the Mutiny Bill; Mr. Celt EY, adverting to the choice which gave the Cell Magistrates poster to decide in uses of application being made to them 3 espeEtitig persons akeged to be apprentices, said, that as the Hill glom' et peseta, it -vas a matter of doubt, whether the same power did not extend to the caws of set,- ems hived for a certain period of time. Introsting item with a power in the latter ease's, he, feared, might rove cite Oriental to the service ; but, at all events, the caner of throbs ought to be done a.vay. len answer W.,s ‘ given horn the other side, and tile clause was agreed to. the SECRE rAnv at WAR referred to the observations made an Hon. General (Fitzpa trick), on the proct ling day, resperthvg the pro priety of providing that the Presidents on Regimen tal Court Martials should be persons of an age, whir lt would make it probable that they were pos sessed of sufficient experience. He did nut meat, to übjeft to the pro;rtety of smith a provision, and, as it had not hitherto been introduced into the he suggested to the lion. Gentled, whether it would not be more convenient for him to prop , se his clauses to that efFeR upon the Repent? amend FITZPATRICK expressed Iris readi ness to concur in tha: at' attgement ; and, as the pa r:is necessety refer so vtere rat h er voluminous, hop e d for the Right Hortentralile Gentleman's assistance in the tretmiewf the c:.:uses. SECREI'ARIMt WAh replied, that he would give dire tons for having the clauses * p repared by the bringing up of the Report. The Bill then went thrmigh . the Committee, and was ordered to be rep ittea on lit ouiay next. SAIT DUTY Mr. HUSKISSON hronght in the Bill for im posing an additional duty on salt, which he moved to be read a first time. Lord W. RUSSELL said, that as he deemed the Bill to be had i•I pi inciple, he must objeft to its be ing entertained at all, though, as there scat other important, business before them, he would not pits)) his opposaion so far as to take the sense of the :louse upon it in the present stage He tinatght it came n ill a peculiarly bad grace in a time of such d stress, that there were ricinties forming in the me troeoliss and other places, filr the purpose of sup plying the poor with provisions upon moderate terms, to which this tax would oppose no small impediment. The Bill was then read a first time. To be read a second fime on Monday. Lord t -ARCHHIALD HAMILTON pnstpnn. led the motion, of which he gave notice for Monday next, to In Monday following. Wielt Lit IL LIST. Mr. JAMES FITZGERALD, after some pre liminary remarks on the unsettled state in which the proportion of the expenees to be contributed by Ireland were left. moved that there he laid before the House a return of the civil list of Ireland since the last account laid befnre Parliament, together with the charges thereon, and the application of the savings from it, tip to the latter period that the same could' be madcap. Also a return of the Duties on Customs and Ex cise iu Ireland, outstanding on the sth of January 1805. * Alan an account of the Produce of the new Taxes is Ireland, from the .sth of January 1804 to sth Jan. 1.05. distiogin,hing the amount of each. Also an account of the stock in hand of S u gars, Wine, Spirits, &c. from the 10th of July 1804, Os Jereti. KN AR FSROROUGH ELECTION, Lord WILLIANI RUS.SI;LL presented a report from the Ceennature us the Kaaresborough Edectiou petition, that the said petition was net frivolous nor continuances would he necessary. With regard to vexatious; and also an especial report, stating that the Parliamentary Comniiiitien under the Great John Carr and Jamee Cummins, she returning offi- Seel, he could not ccs " c how there was any cers, had been prevented from proceeding to a thing dierespeaf ui tn Par a lisCat in ail establishment riots, poll, in consequence of intrigues, and tumults ; meant to aid the executive . overnment in rendering and also, that Whitehead and three others , who . the remedies proposed available to the public, as were mentioned, had been the principal promoters soon es possible. duel therefore, opposing the of those riots. The report having been received, Motion by a negative , he should endeavour hissLiardship moved, that it be taken into consider - to postpone it by : , moving d the Order of the Day. ation on Tuesday se'nnight. which was agreed to. Mr. . 1 . MAR lIN sat d, he heartily wished sue- Lord WILLIAM RUSSELL then said, that it cess to the otiginal ' Motion being convinced that had been:suggested by the Counsel for the petition . there always existed the most_ . enornions abuse n si n: ers, that, should a new writ be immediately is - His Majesty's dock yards. He paid many cm sued, the. same tumults and obstructions would plimcnts to the . professional d merits of Earl St. lan probably arise ;he thought it his duty to move, that cent, and considered institutingequally deserving the himas a reform in what no new writ be issued by the Speaker for a repre- national g etu b e, for sentative for the said borough before this day fort- had so Tong disgrace to the parties con e" a Parliament and to the niht. . ccraed, - as well as to the The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER country. said, he doubted whether the Ilouse would be justi- Sir W. ELFORD said, he must objea to any fled in withholding a writ upon the grounds now such commission as the present being erected into a m e proposed, especially as no preventive measure was cri:.i tribunal,e aspersing the diameters of indivi mentioned in the report. duals , merely upon ~r ram , evidence, which did not Lord W. RUSSELL admitted that he was not allow them to give a fair representation to the pub instruifeed by the Committee to make this Motion, lie. • He instanced the Eighth Report, which, in to which he was principally induced by the sugges - that way, reflected () nthe condua of the brewers ; dons of the Counsel ; and, after a few observations hut , b efore he proceed ed, he wished to know whe from Mr. Grey, the Motion was withdrawn. they his allusion was disorderly or otherwise ? The SPEAKER replied, that he was not strialy PLEASURE HORSE MIA. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER regular, but that it was in the discretion of every wished to observe, that, on int thee consideration , he member to consider whether the discussion he - was found that the Horse Duty Bill was not of that de- entering into was, or was not, adapted to the con scription that could be divided in the Committee, venience of the House. for which reason, all he should propose at present Mr. FOX contended, that the allusion was not irregular ; on which , was, to fill up the blanks and schedule in the Plea - ieg Die SP EA KER repeated, that he only represented sure Horse Duty Bill, and afterwards move for it as a matter resting with the Hon. Baronet's own leave to bring in another, separately, for the new discretion. duty on horses employed in agriculture. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER The Pleasure Horse Duty Bill then went through thought the digression within the spirit, if not the a Committee, and was entered to be reported on letter of the order of the House, and thought, that Monday. if the subjea of the Brewers was intends'd for dis- COMMISSIONERS OF NAVAL F.NQUIRY. Mr. GILES, in conformity with his notice, rose, mission, it should' be made the subjea of a distina discussion. he said, for the purpose of moving the renewal of Mr. SHERIDAN thought the Hon. Bart. would the Bill appointing Commissioners of Naval Ee. have been out of order inlmaking these observations, quirt'. He did this in consequence of receiving RO if he had not also stated, by inference at least, that answer from the other side to his enquiry ; whe the Commissioners had abused their power ; but they it was their intention to propose such a mea having lene that, it was fm thee incumbent on him sure themselves ? The object of the Commission to prove the abuse, in order to put an end to the in was to enquire into irregularities, corre,q abuses, quiry, which could not be proceeded in effeetually and look into the business of prize- tgeney. No without the powers. person could deny that these were very desirable oh- Sir W. ELFORD explained, that he had made efts, or that the Commissioners had not, proceeded no charge against the Commissioners, nor stated any in the execution of the trust !eposed in them, with more than what appeared upon their own report. the utmost zeal, ability, and integrity. Notwith- Mr. GREY said, the question was, whether, in standing all their diligence, however, much yet re stating what occurred in the course of their examine mained to he done; and thee duration was insect tion, the commissioners had gone beyond the strict tain, as it now rested at the will of the Crown, line of their duty, supposing it to idled upon the which could at any time put an end to their office characters of individuals? Upon this subject e aud by a simple piorogation. -The Aft enjoined that the supposition of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. the Commission should be in force for two years Pitt), that the eommissio i might be able to tet• from the passing of the Aa on the 29. h of Deeem minate its labours in the present Session, he WAS bee I 02, and to the end of the next session after it ; , limey to observe, that there•was at least one of the and, it was evident, the framers meant that it should mast distinguished of these commissioners now in be in force till the end of the next session, or until the House, who could afford all the necessary ex the object slieuld be accomplished. He thought a planation. The motion might certainly he delayeJ subjett of such importance should not be suffered till a later period of the session, if the duration of to remain in a :tete of uncertainty ; but, perhaps, it was to depend upon themselves, but that being in it may be asked, why so soon? Why not welt till the power of the Crown, if this renewal should be a later period of the session ? His answer was. postponed, the commission might be put an end to that this was a Parliamentary enquiry, and should much sooner than the Perliament intended. not be suffered to remain dependent on the pleasure Admiral Sir CHARLES POLE said, he always of the crown, or the will of the minister; if the understood that the framers of the Bill never iii commissioners should make a retort that resght be tended the Commission to go on beyond the dura unpaiatable to him. In general, he knew, that Lion of the present Session; nor that it should proceed few ministers would dare to put an end to a com- at all doting the continuance of the war, lie ad mission in that manner ; but theugh the late changes meted that many important points, suds as the did not appear to him to communicate, any addi- different accounts both -abroad and at home, still timed vigour to the administration, they gave them remained to be inquired into; ane, as to the com boldnessiatici he could not testa from their else actor plaint made against the allegations in the eighth that the present Ministers would be so respeetful to report, he was not surprtied •at it, considering the wards Perletinent as their predecessors had been. quarter from which it came. 'risme was the sane ground of public nin'oriety for Sir W. F LFORD, in further explanation, de the existence of great Abuses in the naval depart- clateteueon his honour, that lie had no le:Isom:1 A.- menti, and of mews! the sac ees cessity fi r a remedy, mtaintance with any sof the eei sons mentioned in 'as there was ba the suspension .of the Habeas that report. Corpus Aa in Ireland. It was evident, that, in Admiral MARKHAM said, that I , e was the consequence of so many important departments still person to whose official duty it devolved to bring remaining untouched, the Commissioners could not in the present Bah and having been in mote habits possibly have time to complete their labours, hi the of confidential intercourse with the Noble and course of the present Session. They had, Ist. to 1 gallant Lord, with whom it originated, than the enquire into the abuses and it reentlerity in the Board Linn. Admiral who spoke before him, he wets war of Admiralty. ' 2d. Into that of the Navy. 3d. ranted in declaring that, though, at that time there That of the Treasurer of the Nes y. 4th. That of was some prospea of the House not being so soon the Vietualling Office. sth. Sick and Wounded interrupted, the Noble Lord never intended that the Office. 6th. Trampotts and Prisoners of War Of- commission should drop with the renewal of the war, flees ; and 7th. Into the Office of the Insp./tor nor till it had concluded the whole of its inquiry. Creneral of Naval Works: Many of these remained From the various papers which had come under his still undone. As to mischief nr evil which could inspettion. as well as that of the gallant Admiral arise from the continuance of the Commission, he saw opposite to him, and which the investigations of the no objeetion that could be stated to it, unless on the Commissioners would bring (Indic the eyes of tne par: or those who originally opposed the Bill, on the pnblic, lee was firmly convinced the al-uses in the ground, that the Navy Board possessed already different departments were so enormous, that by. every power necessary for the purpose. That ob- ptocceding in the inquiry, there would result a jeetion, however, was removed, by the institution racing of one-third of the natal erre:lt-rig , ' the roqpitry! of a Royal Commission, to assist that Board, on , lie-himself, as well as the Hon. Admiral alluded account of their having too much business On their to, were personally acquainted with flagrant abuses hatids before, without being involved in this tedious in the transport board, as also in the sick and and difficult enquiry. Nay, they were so touch wounded offices, which he considered as the most employed, that they even declared they had not corrept of all. The whole navy felt them, and he, time even to attend to the eports of those Commis- in common with the Hon. Admiral, and all their sinners. nose who before eutertaineel any °teem bother seamen, had peen serious sufferers in cense firms, must be sensible, from the bare perusal of the quence of these dilepidetions. Notwithstanding some repotts of the Commissioners, that their leeinits former 'sterilises, he had not heard of any thing were highly advantageous to the public, and ought Leieg yet deer in the important business of prizes, to be continued. He therefore moved fir wave to and the Helise would not slit its duty, if the conimis bring in a Bill for renewing the A. appointing a sion was not continued till all the various depart- Commission of Naval Ermitry. • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER minis should be thoroughly purged. He was sorry to observe, in some gentlemen. a great inclination said, that he would not have risen to oppose the to defeat the objeas of this enquiry. They asked motion, if it had been made out that the continti- what necessity there was for it ? He would an ance of the Act was at this time necessary. He was swer, because the Board of Admiralty had not time sensible that the reports already presented may be for such investigations, and, because the Navy produftive of great advantages to the public ; and Board could not sit in judgment on itself. He con though the lebours of the Commission should not choke! with remarking that, as the Hon. Baronet be completed before the close of the present Session, (Sir Wm. Elford) did not choose to come forward it was his intention to have proposed their continu- with a distina charge, he could not think it decent ante of it himself. The Viaualling Office, in par- :n him iby a side woad to ran dews the charaaer of ticular, required to be carefully enquired into; but, though no report had hitherto been nude upon it, the commissioners, and thus endeavour to render them unpopular. there was no assurance that the Commissioners The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, may not at this moment he prepared to report in allusion to the Prize Bill, remieded them that upon it, having the materials prepared in the notice of it had a long time since been given of it by progress of their other enquiries. He, there- his Right Hon. Friend (Sir W. Scott). fore, thought the Motion should at least he post- Admiral MA RICH ASS explained, that he had not poned till a later period of the Session, when the been aware of that notice. House would be better able to judge whether the Mr. CREEVXY complained, that the reports of -, the Commissioners had not been followed up by 'ACIs of Parliament. calculated to imply some rennohes to the abuses. A similar negleift %%at observable in the Report of Abuses made by a Committee about twenty years ago, and in another Rjaort made in the year 1797. As to the Crown Commissioners, that House had no conn oul whatever over them, or he believed some of the Members would have been differently situated. There was Mit; of them where lie should have no delicacy in naming, and whom he heard with surprise, represented as a propel pen no to be employed in the cure lion of public anuses- . that gentleman he considered to have been force' upon the public. Did the Gentleman opposite to him recolleCt that the person alluded to has been a defaulter to the amount of 80.0001. which, by what ever accident it might have, been produced, was obliged to come out of the pockets of the public. For his own part, lie considered him to be the most unfit person in the kingdom for such an employ ment, and should tht reforemake his appointment to it the subjeCl of a allure motion. Mr. FOX contended wi:h the original mover, led' the Gallant Adminal behind hint (Markin:in), th it the framers of the Bill did not intend it tcr expire o n. after the next session of P.lrliament. The t , i. mony of the Hon. Admiral opposite I.im (Pole) was not sufficient to induce the I louse to rejeci the Illea• sure, as no argument was used for shortening the duration of the commission, nor against ext: din it till the objects should be accomplished. fu all that had been urged for postponing or delaying, it Was a complete auswer to say, that the duration of the present session did not rest with that House, and thataPerliamentary inquiryshouldnever be left at the discretion oftheCrown. Gentlemen did notcven bring any testimony to chew, that there was the least pro bability of the full enquiry being concluded in the coursenf the Session, neither Was the doubt, whether such a proceeding should continue M timcof war, any argument in favour of the Order of the Day It the.. enquiry should he dropped in consequence of the cx. istence of the war, thoiteh he feared it would great ly injure the charader of that House, it could do no injury to the chaeafters of the Commissioners If the Gentlemen opposite to him thought that the Commissioners had abused their !levier, they should manfully propose it for a subjeet of enquiry, as had been alrendv done by one of them, only the worst of it was, that he could get nobody to second him. The observations against the Motion, taken either -gly, or all tog -the:, did not amount to the shadow of an argument for' the Order of the day. It there was a necessity for the commission at aft, it still existed in as muJi force as ever, and he trusted that those who supported the late admieis dation, if they did not support the measure, would, at least, not shelter themselves behind a silent vote, but fairly state the reasons for this change in their opinions. M'. CANNING said, he had a 'rely different view of the questi.-n from that nt the 110 (nimble Gentleman wno s r. ke before hint, fit, in his mind, toe order of the day did not imply any intention to discontinue the Commission. He Admitted that the opinion of the Hots. Admiral ( Pole), that the *e quity should not be continued in tune of *tor, was not conclusive against the motion, but he it entitled lion to considerable weight. A e.- inn in favour of the order of the day wee,,. lag no proof that the main work of ffistnesinn future not having been neatly dove aliendy, may be good reason for suspending the inquiry :a time of war, for the purpose of renewing it wits greater safety and effed in time of peace. lie dal not conceive any blame to attach to the El. now.- able Baronet -(Elford) in what be said; for where such extraordinary powers were given to Commis shiners, they mint always be sulsjeit to such obi. set rations, without implying any dire& charge against them. The Hon. Baronet did not expressly charge ahem with a libel, hut observed upon their inadvertently sanctioning, by their authority, the publication of a libel. Mr. FOX explained, that in what he said, he did not mean :toy taunt upon the !lon. Baronet: for if it was at all a tont, it only applied to those who liked to hear charges of that kind, thousk they did pot wish to mike any such themselves. Mr. GSLY elpl4l3ed ; and Sir Cf4Alll./.1 POLL wished him to have it understood, that he was sere sible of the imnisslbiltty of completing the fidli enquiry in the course of the present Session. Mr. B. BATHURST, feeling himself called upon, as a supporter. of the late Administration, to explani the vote be should give this night, sai 4th:it he w is induced to hope, that the candid manner in which the Minister had stated his wish for the candler ante of the enquiry, would have induced the Ifo noisrable Gentleman to have asjilidrawn his mo tion. The only doubt seemed 10 consist i ' ..- ther the length or the Session en-aid t• • • • .cient to bring the objets of- the compose i ti termination ; and, as thete would still rerun.-, to.t or four months for aserrtoi•iiiig that, he b;l4,tai I his voice. A this time, to the previous queniiia. As to the argument, that it was in the power of th i s Crown to terminate the proceeding by a proroga tion, he laid no great stress on it. as the same obi jedion would apply equally to any Member's &log notice of bonging forward an oneortant questioi on a subirequent cloy, because the power of :he Colin might possibly defeat it. Lord 11. PETTY :poke in favour of the Motion. He could not conceive on what fair ground of re.t• sorting a could be resisted ; the Right Hon. Gee derzran had acknowledged the Commissioners Intl embraced many objets of the highest importancn and had been produetive of very good effeCts ; tho he WAS egliAly conscious of as the Right Hon. Grin tleman, and, therefore, he thought it could not be too soots secured as to its continuance. He sow as te.tson why the .matter should be deferred till to wards the close of the session. The Right Hon. Gentleman had expressed himself as not unwilling that such a motion as this should then pass, but why trust it to that time ? there certainly could oot be any danger hi the coritinusnce of the Commission. The lion. Gent. who were entrostel to act under it had proceeded with sn much ability, indentry, audio. tegrity, in discharge of the important funs sons no. trusted to them by the House, that they deserved the warmest thanks of the country, and it would, be was cerniin, give general satistattson to hear, that their labours were to be c intinued. The Bill was the child of Parliament. and as such. entitled to the peculiar protedion of the Horse; they wire in niances bound to notice it, and to eateu,i it further, u) be whatei one or iovort The 75 —to Tbe 0 2UI:IC imps; vaileL rt: ~, .'" 1 C" Com cater Th. alai gre: the