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f venation. This not beingoadmitted, lie begged to pat a yet istion to Mr. Adams. Q. You stated oil the former Meld that you served the Duke of York gratuitously. May Iha permitted to ask whether you hate a son in the army ?--.A. I havt.—he is Lieutemmt-Culimel of the 2lst Regiment of Foot. (4. What age may he be?—A. As tlii:loestion has been put to time, and es 1 cannot mistake the tendency and intention of it, l hope I may be per mitted to read a letter, which I received upon the present business, arid to go into a particular detail of the introduction and prooress of my sun in the army—(Near ! hear !) -- Sir Charles Stuart. the friend of may early life, asked me if I had any son whose hiclinatiou led him to chose the army ? 1 said, that I had one !eetween font-tee:, ;mil fifteen years old, alto liked that pro fession, and toy friend hail I:1:n appointed to a consent:aeon in his regiment, then at C a nada. The boy never jokier, the retemenit, but was sent t' school at Wendwieh, to obtain a regular clu e oioa, adapted to the line IS which lie was ein ba:ked. In this school .1 must say he diet tiognished himself—flfear aecoud coinotissiou he received also front Geo. Sir Charles Stuart, which wat that of Lieutenant. When Sir Ralph . 4 .bercromhie went to the Helder, he went cat with that General as a Volunteer. beieg theta but sixteen years old ; and 1 hope the Hou ,e will pardon eue—it is impoasible that I must not feel on this subject-1 hope it will panlon me for speaking of his merits: that youth landed in a hot b e, and behaved hi in;alf ao as to receive the thanks cry one round him. He had the command of a sob-di vision, such as Lieutenants command; the tion t os of which it consisted were those raped from the Sap. pleas ntury Militia; they Wei c nee perieueed and raw fur service, and yet he conducted them in smelt summer as chi honour to he:itself and theta. When he centric) from. this expedition, lw received from the Duke of York a comaession in his own regi merit, the Coli6treain ; he remained in the Cold 'loam non% the experlitam eerier Sir Ralph Aber crombie was,sent to Egypt, and he jailed that ex pedition, accompanied by his friend, (who had.a;ao distinguished hiunerlf at Woolwich.) the soli of Sir George Warner; that friend was killed by his side. He (Lieut. Adam) was among the Guards at the lending, and distinguished himself upon the °eat- Mon. When be returned, his Royal liialitiess pro moted hint to the rank of Major. from wlrieit he lota risen by regular course to that of Lieutenant- Colour!, at the age of tt. When Colonel went abroad, he said he might be deprived of his coininiseann, and this was the wily occasion on which I mentioned Ins name to lii. Royal High- Dees. He has performed sec ices, and tdistninetl a kin?' character. I could call upon many General Oalcers to attest this fact. If General Moore were alive. he could speak to leis merits. (Hear! hear !) I thought it necessary to state this Innen, hi order to slimy that he had some claims to the promotion lie obtained ; and now, with the permission of the W."o.* I will proceed to read the letter. (Read! reed !) " Sim-. Year character was MVP respected, bet that is sow all aver ; your shoftin„. in the House of Coomunne, me wl-tin the Duke of York's amours, would entitle any other man to he dohlted a pimp ; your activity has been rewarded ; you have got your sue to be a beat rat the age at twenty. Bravo ! p on ! induce the {loose of Commove, Sip's can, to decide that a Prince ehonld not be bronght to accoo ,, t for protlqacy to his vraatatta ; induce them to re solve, that a Prater uetd not care for the good opiniou of thotr who pay they du, such principles cannot ha established by the authority of the Hear-Garden. Reform to Partiansertt is slanting; it is not when Mandist is at the gate, that reform shook' Ire thought of, it elinuld be adopted at sues. I Windt for you, and the llit in which you appear ld Ser re the poic. The busioess of the Duke of 'folk is now !Wore the House, and, upon their decision of that question, depends their damnation or salvation." Thereappeacs no signature to this letter, I read it to eaplaiii the reason. way I did not proceed directly to utitiiver the Hom Member's question, and hope I have satisfied the House." Mr. ELLISON-sta ll, I regret that a letter of this nature shonid have been produced itt all ; it is an anooymous'attack ; and, as such. s is too rontempti ble to he hmagat under the notice of Parliament. I ant sure I feel much for the RonsGentlernan, and pity him ; but ttill I do not approve of the produe time of such a paper as time which lie has read." Mr. A DASI-•-" I son as unwilling as any raw to any proceeding on the letter ; but when I was asked each aquestioo as the Hon. Member was pleased to put to UM I think I was bound in justice to iny own character, to give a full explanation, sod the production of the letter was essential to it. If the Iloti.Czentletaan had wandered sue feelings, lie would not have objected to me that I brought CI, letter before them ; he wouki have seta and chatted its necessity. was of opinion that I had beta sufficiently guarded in what I had said. to atari any offence to the lion. Gentleman ; and i must still think that Such a nameless proelue nen was beneath the attention of Purliament." L ir.Fe Lae do not think that the letter which her been read, should only be coniadered as an annitymous one ; it contained a threat to a Mem ber of Parliament. This should be made II ge neral matter. If die Howe .entleman opposite acted right—(Order, order !)--itistead of disapproviug the production of the letter, he would recommend a reward of 5001. to detect the writer."--(Order. order Chair, (.'.hair !) Mr. Ltrrtvroa—.. I am sorry to be obliged to .7,11 the attention of the house to a question of w der. What has fallen from the Hon. Geode opposin, touching the spirit and feeling of an Hon. Gentleman near me, es altogether out of order. If threatening letters are not to be toler ated, neither ma a threatening manner, (a laugh). vormid wish that the letter, and the quest that led to it, should be altogether expunged, agreeing as I with the Hon. Gentieman near me, that it sheald riot appear upon the tni iiii tes of the House." Furt ea rose amid a cry of Order ! and was nt;ii:-d to sit down. 'ltie CHANCELLOR of the EXCHCallen" I do not belt :e that any individual is of opinion that the Leiter slaiuld be inserted lii the utioutrs, but 1 have over . ; 1;• ir,tion to expunging the evidence." tH Eia.tson assented to this opinion. air. I think the letter ought to be a..pummel. I wish to know lithe short-hemil writer wren time words " have you a son in the army?" as the whole of the question proposed by my _ lion. Friend ? ( Yee.) This point is extremely or cervices Captain .M ding obtained welt re bid Hausa ciieht coins to a resolution that it well Corn material, for the short-hand writer hes tilieteken, I prnmotiliii. and the gift of theae emirmisnane ?--e posreided.—M cry of IVo, Nil.) ' • -., (I am sine not willingly) in the oinission of A. I hold in me trend his tint recommeselatims to Mr. PERCHVAL concertos . ' there would he no (la the sentence with which any Hon. Friend prs:fered am ',unit:y—(ll:e Colonel then read the meson- celty in shaping the question, so as to remove all , his question. The question, as put by him, was, menclattou of Lieutenant-General Sir John Dot le, objection, by staleng whether there were any Officers "As %lila stated on a former night that you sexed which procured him the ensigney on the 120th No- who had served longer than Cnptain Milling, and the Duke of York gratuitously, allow me to auk if 'ember, 1805.) On the formation of the garrison who had not been provided for ? Teis was agreed you have a son in the army I' Now the inference hetteitun, in November, isob, the men who were on ; and Colonel Gordon being eettin called in. to be drown from the question standing thus is, enlisted fur limited service were formed into ditier- ties question, so modified, was put to him.—A. that it was meant to impeach the testimony of the ent battalions, Fitaigu Mating and four others Leiquestiolialey many. I beg lease to. explain. witness, nod move, that though be was not reinu- were appointed to the 4th Garrison Battalion, us It is the practice of the Commander-in-Chief, notated lay a salary, he nas remunerated by the Lieuteisants. In August, 1907, I received a letter without exception, that no junior Officer shall Le promotion of Ilia eon." from General Doyle, wishing Lieutenant Mating promoted over the heart of a senior iti the same regi- Mr. Wenem:—" My Right Hera. Frivol has to be transferred to a racaut Lieutenaiitcy in the meet. I conceive it my ditty to report every Officer stated correctly the inainser in which I prefaced my ti7tli, which eats accordingly done. On the as he is found fitted iu the qualifications of elle question, but has misteken the intention with 44th . of July, :NUR, Major - General Femur racer, past services, and conformity to the regule which I past it. I declare that 1 had no view what- applied to the Commander - iii - Chief, to be tions requisite fur promotion. In all these Capt. ever of impeachiag the Hon. Gesitteutuu'e testi- allowed to appoint Lientenent Mating his Aid- Alaling was eligible. And I have no hesitation in ninny ; hut as every thing that fell from him on de-Camp, and received tin answer, stating, that *eying, teat he was not only an honour to the corps this business had greet weight, from the eircine. the second ['elution of the regiineist to which to which he belonged, but I believe him at prunes suttee of his being gratuifousily concerned fir the Lieutenant Mating belonged, was ordered for lug en Officer sir any in the service. Duke, I wished to colteet, by this question, that foreistei service, consequently, that he could not be I Q. Do you mean that tie Officer has been taken some eircurustencesi existed. which reside:est him :let tit, Aid-de-Camp. 'l' hie statement was corisidered out of one regiment and put over die head of onu s° entirely free front bias." sufficient, thew Commander-in-Chief west,' not I ther, who way older and ready to purchase i—A. I Mr. Fe MAR rube aggire amidst a cry of Order ! permit Mau to go, nor would tiny offieer, ter his own mean to nay, that if there is a vacant commieeion le and was obliged to sit down. hollow, aerept it, under such eirtinastances. (This a regiment, any person recommended must he Mr. W Armee thee rose to state his second letter a n d tl:e answer were also reed by tl.e Co- senior to those 'dossiers who might till that coat charge—" In callin4 the attentiou of the House Imiel.) On the aueinetitatinor of the African corps minion. to Una charge, I lush to be understeed us acquit- from 4to 6 battalions, u became necessary to tip- Q. Do you mean to say that the Major of one ung the Geutleman, whose promotion I complain point taro offsets to ell those compenies, and tOeut. regiineut could ant he promoted as Colout: of 3110. , of, froiu any impropriety whatsoever. lam sure Melingand 'mother wereeelected. Lieut. Malin as thee, over the head of a Major who was his senior be is an honourable and deserving awe. I think chosen on account of the many reconenendutimis in that regiment?—A. Certainly not. I can prove to you that Captain Mating was he had received from his Cemtnatitling e Officers ; Q. Was not Colonel Piggot. of the 14th !girt appointed to a commissinn in November, leo6, Defoe, however, the uppointmenemok Mee, I sent drngoono, promoted over the head of a Mie'or in and le oinoted to a comet ny in 1307, though the fur his brother, and told Min, that a accepted the mine regiment, his senior?—A. I interim where regular period that should iutervene between the the coin siffission, he timid join the eierps i edis I arty that such never takes place, except where first appointment and the company, is alone two .lily, and go to ()time. He said Nod I was there are special instructions, when there exist ree yeers. Now, what I complain of is, that eueh a prepared to do so. After the appoints:teed t sons to the contrary. I believe the iustaace alluded system twist Injure the bet vice. as it must haves , Iffisce. I had an interview with Lieutenant Mating to. is of Culunel Piggot, of the gbit regiment, at tendency to disgust bnbalterno I can wake it up- himself ; awl. on repeatilig the saute expectation tits: Cape. That WAS 011 the special recurnmendie peur that there are many who, utter various tier- to him that I had before stated to his brother, he • ton of General Terleton. vices, and with all the advanteges of recummeud- tend he was prepared to go instantly to the army Q. I tosiffil ask were there any unpleasant or ation which that Geed' man pesseseed, still re- d• put, inwl slid ge, I believe. On the 20111 De- elitterieeS in consequence of each appeintnts et ?—• main to this day, without even being allowed' to .ember, 1809, inteatiev application was mitde, that A. I cannot ray than , were. purchase. The Gentleman whom. promotion you he should be eilinittesO to the Aidele-Cempey, Q. Were there, from run own knowledge, at are now to corselet, was a clerk iii Mr. Green- and au answer was returned, permitting it as twig the time wheu Capt. Mailing was promoted, any wood's' office, from whence lie was put into the as the detaelinsent to which he belonged remained •reertniueuslatione from Commending Officers for army. Ido not mean to star that lie was et the iu Guernsey. The Colonel read the different let. subalterns of senior dates, before the Commauche office ever since his appointineet.—( Lead cries of tars to whir l s he alluded in this account, and con- in Osier I—A. Yes, there were Imlay ; but this Wee Hear ! Poet the Mintaterial sidc.j—l uederatand eluded with stating; that he believed he had un- not a promotiou by purchase. what is 'newt ley that cry ; but if I were guilty of slivered the question. Q. Were there any such promotions,' without any inaccuracy, I hope I may be allowed in correct Q. Can you atilt ! *PM Your own knnwledge purchase 1-... A. It is likely there were. it upon farther ironriderntion ; what I intended to that there are mossy subelterste in the army, of Q. Cau you speak posit,vely ?—A. I think there say wits, that he might be foetid at the desk some longer itandina, cud *trireme claims to proniotime were. motel::: alter his apposiittuerit."--e(Scone usurimirs.) than Captain Meting posseesed, and yet who are Q. Do you think there were anv great numbers? Mr. BOURNE—" I remember the charge of the still subalterns? A. The army ise.ng so large, I tithe, there must Hon. Oradea:lmi slistinetly. It stated nut merely The CHANCELLOR of EXCHEQUER objecting to be a great ituniber. the promotion of Air. (plating iu such a time, bet the question, the witness we:swot:red to withdraw. I Q. Is it ion the regulatinn that no person shell Inns promotion without one hour's service; we are 'Flue Csiescgoene of the Exteatques then ob- he promoted to a company, till he shell have now ties, tied the charge is simply his promotion, served, that if the Home were going into any gem- served two years as a subaltern I—A. Net sUb.li.. wben ether aubeftenis were nut promoted ; but cal inquiry, for guy legislative purpose ;if they tent is to he promoted u n til alter he has served this is a matter which must always be left to the were considering the expediency of a reform in the two years. . discretion of the Commeedie-m-Chief. 1 lament present system of the twiny, this question would lie (By Mr. Worreeo.) that charger were tint stated di.tinctly, mid taken appticable ; but he denied that iu the premed Q. Be so good to state the length and nature of down, we should not Oleo hive 'mewed the tiro• cattail could with eropriety be put. your services in the army ?—A. I have served en ger of brin, ,, told that...ye aosteok their mstore fr F. Beeps= slid not know whet the change years. ...:4 of which I have been in 01l putts of the —( Hear ! Hear !J--mad the mooting of the ac- was ;• he therefore tannest the lloneurable Gentle- ' world, except the East Indies ; I was four yens in cuser. I hope the House will eu tutu the in- man tvoald state wherein tro supposed guilt of the i the West Indies; six in America ; 1 served also in b' great mi quite how this prostion was obtained ; a transaction consisted, that he umeht judge of the the Meliterrairean ; I had a sword toted to me fur company iii an African corps—a corps of convicts propriety of the (pestles'. I toy services ; perhaps it is aitirlar, that 1 net (oily and deserters." Mr. eROKE , t was of opin:ou that the rase was ; served as ail tar: : . ;us tip to my ',resent bituatiote Mr. WoRTLEY regarded the proceeding as the now ripe for the. Cotnutittee to decide uporeo- I but I bare been in every gradation on the suit mot cruel he had ever witnessed. W hut a charge (A fry (IN*. no .',/ I without a sinele exception ; I was twelve yeante of so venous u name as corruption was made upon Sir F. &replete wished that the question shodld t subaltern, nine of which I was on constant service. so high a personage, the individual who brought it be withdrawn. Q. Were not. the present regulations set on foot forward should lune well ascertained its truth. The Outlast or :Asked, whether the Hon. Oen- by hito Royal Higlieeee the Duke of York ?—A. The charge was corruption; and now, it seems, that denim was resolved to press the question ?uo if s o, 'llheateeere; before his time au officer might pur. Colonel French, whose testimony is tarential, is he should bite the sense of the Committee upon it. chase up to 11 Lieutoteoluneley, witliia three weeks absent in the West Italics. As we have comet° Mr. ‘Vellet.k thought the questiou necessary to or a latosth. the charge at all. we ere Immol to go through with it. his case ; but if the Right Honourable the Chile- (By the Altrosztrr -GE:4mi,-) Mr. (.assist stated, that he had taken notes On cellos. of The Exchequer would put it in any other Q. Is it the yule that ou officer be promoted the toriner ni 4 ht, in the ease of Caption 3Lilisig, as way, so that it eirawered the purpose he intended, he where; waxier epithet. either wi th or without pun. lie considered at the most serious of the charges and would 'her it by his direction. chase e-. 1. It is the rule in both, crises ; that iS, Ito he recollected perfectly this strong eerie-in,, of Mr. WAITHRCAD coniOdered On the point foi junior is suffered to purchase over the head of a the Hon. Member, •• that Mr. Milling was still to their decision was, whether the charge should he senor. I always Mean, except where there are ape- Ise found in Mr. Greenwand's office." If the 11100. I withdrawn ? Utica, he thought the question should clef eirennistalices. Gentleman had btatel it in the 'unitive he had tot b e a d m i tte d . Q. Cast you say no officer is permitted to pure night, the House would tint have:tweed to eri i n to it. . chase , or is promoted. where au unexreptionelele lhe Cue:meteor' of the EXCHEQUER sa id , that .senior officer is desirons of pidehasiti I—A. I Colonel WOOD corroborated the a...emotions of he had stated his reiwou why the question should the Hotiouruble Oleinbers, with respect to tee till . - have already "mid, tied no junior officer s permik not be put, he would wish to hear front those who foresee between the charge sis belted on the former differed from him why it should , ted to purchase over a senior in the wine regiment, night, atel on this. As stated now, it was, in fact, who is wiling to purchmoe, exceptin a particolar .. MeTtictai. co said . , that the bare circumstance no charge ; the. Crown had a rightto app c such case, and where there ore retteons to he given. OF uppointrg an °there in the teenier way could Q. Can you, on reference toped papers, siute persons as it pleased; anal if the arrangement es to standing was (Ili:WM& they CoUltl Ilaie no pre- net poseu y tee construed Mtn tenure.. He se____oreed your last examination, state why the exchange Li. with the plight Hon. Ginitleinen opposite as to the twee , coloss i, tr _: . , . , tence to fernier inquiry, it would interfere with aeutgatauu vireos, was not Comte d impropriety ad the question; but, he asked, was the prerogative of the Crown. until Tuesday FeseA. I will inform the House. 1 not the whole transaction an impropriety ? As they - stated the het title that 1 had received the Duke's The CnAttcci.t.ott of the EXCHEQUER stated, had gosie in to a Committee on the basiness and that he wished the Ileum to go into the question.' , p leasure on the 23'.1 July, 1805. Since then I adOpleil aura a line of examiuntion, h . e :bou g ht It *night be a mutter for future discusbiou, wile- have got the engine' paper, which war submitted they should not r efuse to put the question. titer this inquiry had tic:en instituted upon weak to His Majesty. The exchange was ditely settled the St:Cat:Teal( at Wte'objected to putting the grounds. and the time of the House occupied co the 23d ; on the 24th it was made out to lie fore unnecesearily ?—(lfene! Hear !)—A charge had queltimt• wardsul to the King at Weymouth, but was too late been brought against his Royal Highness, end T he Cat Nee Ll.Ort of the EXCHEQUER said, that to be dispatches! by the Mail, which called every day t h oug h t h e so me Member who h a d mat t e th e the House must go on with the itruceetimg, as t h ey lat the Horse Guards at 3 o'clock; on the 45th i*, Rile charge had denied it himself, lie would rather cantered into it ; hut still they steer not bound to forwarded; it was si4ited by Hie Majesty °lithe 26th„ mat every question, without yea s l e d to its reference that et should be denied by witnesses produced at land returned the folioning day ; but it was tai late the bar. t • the ease. If such a principle were adopted, IN here to be inserted iu 'the G'azette of that Clay, and it 0; - Mr. WARDLE al, nest if, in the heat of the would it end? peered in the next Gazette, which ass ma Tut . i s moment, he hail gone any length beyond the charge Olteritets EY Said, that if this question were re- O il reference to my papers, 1 had the follesseue which he had stated the. night, he was ready to fused to be putt. the Hostals'entleinuit might refils•! j application front 1111 11011. Member of this Ilrinae, acknowledge that he hail antic farther than the to put any other.. He thought that such refusal es:Awning tin exchange for his brother into gm notes in his hand mild justify. Never, from the would be au iieury to his Royal Highness; it horse, sired iluskissuis, and dated the wild July, first to the lest, did he think of exreniline it so liar, would enable people to say. that, putt at the Iwo and I had the answer dated the 23d, stating that nor of attaching any impropriety to the conduct of meat when the pinching sowatiois was put (though the exchange lied been already betties' between the gentleman who was promoted. He hasp known he was tar indeed frost. thinking it a Puicitiolt Messrs. Knight tted Brooks. that he was acting some time in Ireland. He slid queening, the Chancellor of the Exeliequer it ter- Q. What are the regulations with respect to pro. not wish to create any delay to the Committee, pissed, aud the istveatigation was defeated. 'notions hariugregard to each successive reek I—A. and was willing to adopt may line they thought Mr. CANNING confessed that be wished the Every subaltern must be so two years before Iran proper.—(Cry of •• Go OA! go on !") question could be 'lake!, but a difficulty of this mut De promoted to Captain ; mid lode eersed six Mr. Deets lieowe x wished. before they went sort presented itself to him, if it were miked,--he slid years before bumming a Field off car. This rule into the inquiry, to ask the I Immutable Gentle- not ego what wa s to prevent the House front calling is never broke,' through ; but, mercuutilely speak man a question : Did he deny that he hail made in people front the street, anal putting the very big, errors exempted. use of the words that had heels quoted, or was he same cptestion to them. It weld to reciaire au (ley Mr. Wooto) willing to relingnish them front better informa- opinion from the witness, which was no eseilence. Q. How many hours every day is his novel tion ? It the refusal would medic any such impression as nighties's in hie office I—A. My attemlatice ie re- Mr. WARDLE said, that he hail obtained no het- the Hon. Gentleinau scorned to feel. it war certain- qu,red every slay on him at ten in the Monsing. lie ter information since; what lie hail stated upon lv a greet misfortuue, but regard west be had to is seldom done business until c ven in theevituing. the former night was, that for some time after his their proceedings. Q. Is he not "Niteroi, when purchases we made, aptionitment to the Ettore)... lie might he toe et Colonel Beatty proposed, that that part of time to entente them to the rev:Witted price I—.l. tie is. Mr. Greenwood'a office.—(ef cry 0,1 No! No !) i question which respected merits 'Ranh d be left oft. In the year l3o4 there existed very great abuses on Mr. ELLISON thought the Gentlemen was anti the pun only which referred to longer standing this subject, by perste), obbiotitig money "der hound to make eflosl hits case,aiid they were hound retained. then it would be a question as to fart, • the pretence °fitment-Mg cominipines. Represent to their constituents to prosecute the inquiry.— aired ion a COILIV•ifiSOU of the merits oftlitferent of- i tennis were mole ofthis, r u es circular finless were (A cry of Go on !so ....v . . . fiver. . issued. Septentwo 4. fur the pongee of sompoie Colonel Gottoote teas then called in. I Mr. CANNING azreed to this proposal. the evil, by %One.' such commissions as were nets (By Mr. Weeper.) ' Mr. Bocase thought that the Gentleman should I seated through such nests oficee, were 4 'stewedto Q. Can you undertake to state for what merits be permitted to wdltdres. 1111 charge. aura tl e be repotted, aud such col:maim:ma wouldbe broken. .~ t 1