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30,000/. he Paid the Committee or Finance were Kathy of a gross dereliction of duty in suffering it to be krtpt up, while they recommended the sup prea,ion of the Navel Asylum, which cost only 14,000/. If he believed that retrenchment was really practised, nod that even• office not ab►olutely nee-sonny was dispensed with, lie should be 'the list to oppose voting what was required fur the public service ; but when in the very paper he held in his hand he taw the public Were burdened with the charge of two-junior Lords of the Admiralty perfectly useless, lie should cant con ►rnt to molding a single shilling to the existing lases. lie knew the business* of the Admiralty in she House could be cursed on without the preseuce of the HIM. Secretary oppoaite (Mr. Croke*;. The lion. Naomi then moved as au amendment, that instead of 4,483,013 f. Ws. 7t1., the proposed grant, should he. substituted 2314.019 f. The question having brew put on the amend -7rten- t-I.nlit Comptom opposed the amendment, because lie thought the qnestion of the Lords of the Admi ralty had been already discussed in the present Ses sion, and because the present proposition seemed to be m.,dr for the purpose of embarrassing Mtui•terw. Mr. F. Uot•ct.as rejoiced exceedingly the House had an opportunity of reconsidering its vote its a former occasion, reviorettog the two junior Lords of the Admiralty, because he believed it Lail been ' , tortoise(' into it, by the unexpected state slum of an lion. Ilaronet ISir George Cockborii, see understood], that Ilse two Lorols had ►omething to do.—( A langle.)-19 cousequence of the tura sures necessary for effectuating the alteration in our currency (*loch he admitted was a wise alteration), the Right Hon. Gentleman meant next week to come down with a proposition for new taxes, one of which, if he and the country were not very much mistaken, was a tax which he hail himself given up as injurious to the country.---[We moiler mood the War Malt Duties to be referred to.)-- Under such circumstances the country had a right to expect that the most scruptlous inquiry into the means of retrenchment should be instituted. At the conclusion of the war, he had taken a - view of the ewe.° of economy necessary to be adopted, mote strict than that of most. Ile bud been of sys oli m, that in the same proportion as the expenses of the late war exceeded those of other wars, the re dactions iii 'weer should be carried further than during peace formerly. The rea,ons loosigued for keeping up the Navy Hoard in time of war, were at present altogether illusory. However, the most that could now be done was, to teach the people no bear their burdens with patience, which would never be the ease till they taw their Represen tatives molting every effort to relieve them, and proceeshog is. the moat rigorous scrutinies of the tape-0510re of the public money. Hr a 'died on the Hon. Baronet (Sir G. Cockburn) plow to come forward, if lie could, and state that the we' viers of him two friends weir required in the Ailrnor.oloy. The Committee had bees. already tuf t eiroody damned in the opinion of the country, valthoutt trroi 111 l emlittp, at filer had list dour, the wl►olttton of the Naval Asylum fur the reception I shelter of the orphans of thosts brave men who had laid Jowl, their lives is. the defence of the coo otry—(Dear)--while they sanctioned the keep rog no of ciNeeti expensive and tisAr,ol. I fear.)-- lt was to ►unp:nrt such illitlilltl4llll% 1111 the that Members on Imo side of the ll.w-e had 'timed ten thousand a • year to the Duke of York, and other Improvident giants. Sir fleoat.s; Coettauaa, in reply to the ql/RI. 11,it; put to him by the 11m. Gentleman, had nn 11-sitation to stake his public aid !Private repots tom, that tic Admiralty B.Piltil r lnld slot he better constituted than it was at present, and that any alieration in the existiog plat) would be must thischievous..--(fkar.)—No Hoard could be better voiaritated than that Was at the Admiralty at pre sent, and he %fluid deprecate tiny alteration in it. AVith reSp . ect to what had been said by an limb Member (Mr. Calcraft) on the subject of the di& feresice between the state elf tke soldiria and sailors, sill lie should say we., that the stoutest had a eettliin comparative adiantsge ; fur, when the soldier was discharged, he had no occupation open to him, .silents die 'sailor had the inerchant servrce ready give him erthiloyitrent ; and the fact at present MN*, that there was a great difficulty Its getiiiig the few ships in commission manneel. In war time met- Glummest were mostly sew kedby foreigners. Since the prace•tbese pe;sons hail returned home, and anerchants.;Sr cour►e, took advantage of the dis charged men from the king's ships, so that some of the latter were now . l.itt weeks or two months eu deacouring to make up their cumpleinetu. Mr. F. DOI! G LAS observed, that the • Ifioti. and gallant Admiral hail given ass answer to some 01/- ►-rvatiaos which had been addressed to him. 'lle would take leave to pat another question to I , whit h was, tint whetter the Ad Ily Board was the Litt tototunted, bat whether lie thought it in iliapensably iieceassry for the public service atilt the two .Isy •Lords of the Admiralty should be con tinued ?—I War, hear.) Si► G. CoCKOU ON made no reply. The gallery wits ihtil cleared for a division, when the nll hers we►e— FM' She Aweenitcnent Against tit wl■jurily The original tivesicarrittl is tile affirmative. ------- The nest Reis ttnion teat— • lima a son not enceolnig 1,631,6111/. lie smiled for di fraying the chafes of h,o IJini, nr•liiiiiiting, amid tersii tug ►Ails of war in his hiaje►t!'s soil the %lei ehatti , x' aii.l oth.r extra woilis, user awl shore what is iiropos4(l to be done upon the israds of Wear and Tear, mud Orditranra, foe the )ear 1819." *lr. tilt ME, before this Rrsolotion were adopted, beg4e4l to call the Wm. and ARllastit Admiral's at. tentom to the iteport I,l* the Committee of Finance, who recoluoteateteil a reducttott in toe charge of the That tb4l Naval Asylum. sod who %,bics sl Id lie sesproilril fur the application of itch sums under the heads of expemkture, winch Mere Un4CCurnioioi”4l ioy proper replan/Italy pleas rued eqiinates of she whole ispeinir to be isicorred. The lino. Vetolit.r thin Tercrfell to the souse set .:own L,r d.ticreht heads i•l• extieuititure in the CO. 1..161 0, 1111(1 //ell 11(11 IJ rly sllsidtil tit the 1111104liat for 1 se• Oul Li use at ltermude, Jortitive, and • an egg...gore estimate rdabont i1.3,00td. 11: also tiloest d illorinettuu I g I,' Ling the item of 4,0801. for the hoard of Longitude, a hich was introduced for the first time is this shape in this year's estimates. Was it to be an anuttal grime, or was it an incidental particular expense 1V ) 111 respect to the Naval Asylum, hr thought the . Government would dal well to reduce all the public establithinents to a degree commensurate with the income of the country. He regretted that the army estimates had not been reduced to a lower scale, and to something more like a twice establish ment; if reduction had not been safficieutly attend ed to in the army estimates, it did not therefore follow that the navy rsllmates blioutd not be re duced its low as I/ were convenient and proper. The present was the time when they should ap proximate in the fetes' . sense to a peace estas blishinesit now that they were about to revert to ill- solid WOO of ■ metallic currency, they should conform their offices to that standard. It was a fact, that ill public income had been at the anent of the war increased, owing to the depreciation of money at such a pirlosl. lie hoped that 1101 V the metallic currency was about to be reverted to, and money likely to re►ume its value as before the war, the Covernment would take care that iii all cases of depths and vacaricieF, the income of the successors to appointments should be regulated according to the on amount before money was depreciated, nod not according to the scale which paper money hail occiisioued.—(iiear.)—lf this were done well, and the - uniourit regulated according to that which pre ceded 1797, then there would be sio siecxasity of adding to the burdens of the people by kash taxes to meet the new.debt ; and lee sincerely hoped that ParliaLtent would not tolerate the introduction of any new tax until they saw a sincere disposition in the`Governmerit to economize in every department of the public expenditure. lie meant on a future day to call for a comparative estimate of the salaries of public officers at the present time, and that iii 1797, with a view of gii ing practical operation to his plait of reduction. If the expenses of the Civil List old other heads were modified to this scale, be would yepeat that no new taxes would become ne ce►rary. On the present occasion he felt himself compelled to move, that the sum of 55,0001. (the amount to which lie hod referred at the beginning of his speech) be struck from the present vote. Mr. CaUltEll assured the lion. Member that mince the recommendation of the Finance COSH.. mittee last year, and indeed in the previous one, no expenditure nay entered upon w►thout previous proper and adequate estimate. The Admiralty had taken especial care of this. But there were other works which had been mauy years iu progress— there was one at Malta, fur installer ; and when the expense could not be accurately ascertained, and when its continuance was dependant upon a variety of considerations, over which the Government had no control, then the item was marked " uncertain." It was his decided opluion that the works at Ber muda were of the greatest importance. The sums fur this year's expenditure were less than those of the preceding year, and conclusive of the desire of Guverunteut to economise as much as possible.— The true economy was to be found iii this gradual awl general reduction. With respect to the vote for the Board of Longitude, it would be recollected, thit 10,0001. had beets speciticelly voted by Act of Parliament for that Board. Ile earliest's hoped that the sum now voted under this head would be entirely expended, as nothing could be more advalitageous to the science than that the must liberal encouragement should he given fur Hew and useful improvements. With respect to the abolition of the Naval Asylum, lie could only assure the Hon. Member, that the admissions to it "tee strictly regulated to the wants of those orphans who were entitled to the companion of their coons try. and that no economy would be obtained by its elmlitiosi, for the establishment of that institution was originally from private benevolence. It was endowed with 100,000/. by private charity, and Government subsequently took it under its special Care mid management. if they were to withdraw this peutection, they must not only break faith with the original founders, but also restore to them the original 100,000/. which had been long since spent in the progress and enlargement of the Asylum. Strangers were ordered to withdraw ; but Mr. Hume did not lima his motion to a division, and the original Resolution was then put amid carried. The next Resolution war— That a sum out exceeding 419,319 f. be granted 4s, de &a, the expense of purchasing proviispos fur •roues on gar- I fuecigst stalwits, &c." Sir M. W. litint.Ev look that opportuiiity to flit some questions respecting the svutks suing on in some of the public ducks and yards. He would brunt with tine 'smelts at the Deptford rut!, the grant fur which, in 1161 S. was 34,466/. The esti mate now *coiled for su complete the wink was 47.000/. maim% an excess.. on a cumperisun with the original estimate %Theo the fist grant was made, of an* less then 20,0001. He mat desired reply ostiuu respecting the works at Woolwich dock-yard. IBlBlu a sum of 25,01:4. woo granted fir those suilni—the estimate now called fur was 26,450/. and it was said 1,00(q. would be wanted to com plete them. in Chatham also, it 1818. 40,9401. . win voted to roof in the Jock, and 5,5001. was now wanted to complete it. M'itla respect to the works eaurying oft it Sheerness, not to tuuch upon their po licy or iinuolicy, be meaut the works at the dock- Prolog 433.1300/. hod been the first estimate—lust year $70,000/. was granted on account, and 555,800/. I was the estimate How made cut to complete the works—making a total of more than 7U0,0001. and at excess of 2.77.000/. over the original estimate. In Plymouth and other public depots a similar ex cess of the first estimate would also be found. Mr. CROKEL said he could give a satisfaetovy esptanotimi to the inquiries of the lion. Baronet. As to the trst, the works slt Deptford, the excess of expense had arisen from the foundation of the wharf-wilt of the l'ictoalling Department having been, in the "roves' Of the work, discovered to be in a consideridsly worse state thou was at first ima gined. It was vine hundreds of years uld, and ou closer examination, paneling np was deemed kn. suf f icient, us the piles MCIe quite rotten, and it was obliged to he rebuilt. The augmeutatiosi crib, ets pe use of the r Militate at IVool with had been *cession •id by the sh•covi ry of 11Ir. Ilrtuir , that, by a rhauge of the hue of the what I-a all, the enures capriole .(snwelinser ISO,IIU4J/. r yeti') ut Stlllbtlisg the moil which us cumulated so the front of the duck might This was !gilled by olterilig in a small if grot the Line of the water, au idterativia which, while it greatly diminished the public ex pense, deepened also the bed of the river. The va.t im►prowemeuts now carrying on at Sheerness. • end the extent of which could not be duly ststi meted except by ocular inspection, bad baffled all attempts at an adequate estimate before hand, from the difficulties interposed by the nature of the in the progreas of the work. The expendi ture under this head was now under revision in oil its braocheii, and lie had no doubt would in future be carefully examined iti detail. Ile had now, lie thought, touched upon the principal points re specting which the Hun. Baronet solicited 'Rubino*. bon. Sir M. W. RIDLEY thanked the lion. Genet.- 'man for his answers. Hes only uhj.ct . was to ob tain information, which he admitted he had recets ed.— (Kear.) The next Resolution woo— s, That a suns sot exceeding SSs,t3ll. lie greeted for the Transport Service of the year 1819." Sir M. W. RIDLEY begged to take this oppor tunity of again calling the attention of Government to the state of the miemploted pursers of the navy, and their present situation, us contrasted with their previous rank and emoluments. Of clerks who had passed seven years' service, and also passed their examination as acting pursers. there were, he believed, about 2.5 or :26 excluded frum their allow :wee by the regulstion of the Orders in Council of 1814 ; and when it was considered that 14 or 1.3001. would give u sort of pittance to such per sons, he ►trongly urged that the Prince Regent should be advised to rescind this Order as affecting them. He barely threw out Vito suggestion, the adoption of which would prevent him from making it on a future the subject of a specific motion. Sir GEOLGE LOCILDUEN lamented that he could not concur in airy recurninendation which would tend to augment the half-pay list; nor could he consent to any addition whatever to the list, except in asses of vacancies. Mr. Caoxxa said that the Hon. Baronet's ap peal was part mixed up in his compassion for the situation of some of these individuals, ■nd part in his idea of the justice of their claims. %%'W) respect to the compassionate part of the appeal, he could assure the Hon. Baronet, that he (Mr. C.) lamented us much as any man that lie could not, with a due sense of economy, give the sought-for relief. The justice of the claim he was sat so easily prepared to admit. The state of the case was this—accord. ing to the old plait, there were exactly as many pursers as there were ships in commission; and when u ship was lost or broken up, uo new parser was appointed until another ship was built or put in commission. This was considered very hard upon the pursers thrown out of employmeutin this manner, and a custom grew up of bearing pursers on what was called the cheque of the yard, with an allowance of Is. 2d. or Is. 3d. each per day, until the new ship was put in commission. During the late war, an alteration in this plan took place, and so rapid, from a variety of causes, was the appoint ment of pursers, that there were at one time uctually one thousand pursers, though there were only 500 ships in commission. lu the year 1814 the Board of Admiralty regulated the num ber. and adopted the system of balf-pay ; and it was then resolved, that no snore pursers should be appointed until the number existing was reduced to the Humber of ships in commission. The ex pense of the old plan was 33,8001.—0 f the new plan 64,8001.—a.► that bv the latter the pursers were gsitirrs of upwards of 40,000/. The Resolution was then agreed to. ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. Mr. ROBERT W•RD then, in pursuance of his notice, brought on the Ordnance Estimates. lie commenced by giving • brief statement of the amount of the Ordnance expenditure. according to the Estimates for the current year. From the necessity which had arisen of waking retiring pro visions in a number of cases after the peace, there bad been a considerable excess in the half•pay and superannuated branch of this department of the expenditure, which amounted to about 43,0001. — but in every other branch of the department the utmost retrenchment was adopted, and the saving this year amounted to . 60,0001. 2s. 9d. The re duction in !Joint of numbers since the peace amount ed to 1,814 Officers and men in the Sappers and Miners Corps. The numberof men in this branch was, last year, 9.759—it was this year 7,939. And the Board of Ordnance. acting wtrictly isip to the recommendations of the Committee of Finance, hild reduced their expenditure front four millions and upwards to about 1,100,0001. The Hon. Member concluded by proposing a Resolution— ., That a sum not exceeding 386,2211. 3s. 1 Id. be granted to defray the unprovided charges of the Laud Service of the Ordnance Department fur the year 18I8." Mr. 111.111 IE thought dark some important saving might be effected iu this department, by a reduc tion of the expensive manufactory of gunpowder, which was still carried on. Instead of selling the munufectured stock of gunpowder, when it greatly accumulated or became damaged, would it not be a better coarse to stop the manufactory itself ? Why incur a large expense for manufacturing air article which was not in dem•ud ? Why pay 10.500/. for the mere manufacture of gunpowder at Evealiam still Waltham Abbey, to keep up a . tirehas stuck ? There wee soother item on which lie required explanation—that was respecting the manner iu wind, the vacancies on the Artillery Staff were to befitted up. Was it true, as he bad heard (aid heard with satisfaction). that sonic arrangement was made., by which vacancies in this corps were iu future to be filled up alternately by cadets from Woolwich and officers from the half-pry list? To give away cominiwions to persons who had never seen service, ar had fieeu the practice, inflicted a double injustice—first to the country, for it was preserving a half-pay expenditure winch might be avoided by tilling up the new 'commissions From the Italf•pay list; and doing an injustice to the 'old officer who had served his country, by keeping him upon • reduced allowance, when an opportunity Iwo occurred of renew iug his full pay. There were several novel items en this year's list. it ought to fir tocollected, that the Finance Committee had strongly recommended that in future the foreign attitinotious of this :country should he made to maisitain their own wetahlitiliasents, mid yet this year there were several heeds of expenditure fur Ceylon, Maui itius, the C•pr,Corfu, and the lonian Islands. umounting to it 1.306/. and to MOW. more is u se• partite shape. This was chute when the Colonic* al fllreat Butaiu ought 16 be made made to itypert thetneeives, and therel►y effect a savisis raisrp• of not lees than hall a minion a-year. Mr. R. WARD obsertett. that with ►espeet to the 'manufactureof gunpowder, it must he evident that a great and an economical alteration must Wye taken place, when the manufacture for the use of (invent went was seduced from 30.04)0 barrels annually to 1,000. It was, however, essential to preserve the ex isteoce of a manufactory which had, beyond all doubt, carried tt.e article it p_rtyliiced to such e de gree or perfection, as to ex►ee►l, in point of extel leti-e, that snide in any tither tout ol , lie world. Besides, the continuance of the setantaii7.uie i ts th e reduced rate tit which the Work was gowg mi. kept in employment those old servants who should other. wise lie provided for by pensions. As to the Staff Artillery, he presumed the II 000000 urahle Member tueant to allude to the Artillery Corps (for th e y h ai l no staff 114 he seemed to suppose), the regulation was as he had heta►d it. anti he fed (lettered at the manner in which the Hon. Member had expressed his opinion of it. The Resolution was then agreed to. The next Resolution wits," 'Dist a sow not ex. ceed►sig 100.0941. be granted to defray the usipro 'tided expellee of she Lend Service of the °Mantic, of Crest Britain fur the year 1519." • In 3111swer to a ipiestion from Rtui.xv, Mr. it. WARD said, that this vote Will made out in the usual wa y. Thia Reitolunon was agreed to. The next was. " That a suns not exceeding 10,0001. lie granted for defraying the expense* of the reduction of the Ordnance Military Corps." Mr. HUME, In alluaiuu In what had liven said where lie spoke of the manufacture of gunpowder, mentioned, that he had always understood the gun powder maaufactured by private companies in this country excelled the Government article. At all events, he thought 7,5001. a-year for the payment of mere labour in the manufacture too much for the country to be called upon to pay. De their complained of the delay of tronsmittirig fur exami nation the accounts in the Ordnance Department, some of which, though so far back as 1814, remain ed yet unexamined. Mr. It. W•tin lamented that, from the nature of the service, there bring a few men scattered all over the world, in the different garrisons, the ac counts of the several expenses of those small divi sions were riot transmitted with the regularity which they ought, and many officers were now under dis pleasure, and some under prosecution, for their neglect. The Resolution was then agreed to. The next was " 275,67 W. fur the charges of su perannuated and retired officers fur 1819." A4reed to. !lien " 6,0221. for the half-pay of civil officers of the Ordinince.and for pensions for their widows and children."—Agreed to. Their, " 34,484/. for several pensions of superan nuated officers."—Agreed In. Mr. LisittrisTr inquired whether it was true that the !ate blaster-General of the Ordnance had retired upoir full pay? Mr. ROBERT W•RO said, that this rumour was not o n ly not true, but in every respect utterly des tittlee of any foutirlittioir.—(Hear.) The following Resolutions acre then agreed to : 101.e00/. for the Irish Ordoasice servire, 12,000. to pay the retired officers of the Irish Ai tillery, sad 4,6001 fur the retired civil officers of the Irish Depart ment. Sir J. NEWPORT inquired what was done with the Bolincolig r•tablislinient, near Cork ? Mr. K. WARS replied, that it was reduced, and the greater part of the land let to as mm4l advau loge us was passible. EXCIIEQUER BILLS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER TOW to bring on his motion for the repayment of outstand ing Irish Treasury Hills, 'unprovided Exchequer Bill., and to prmole a Sinking Fund for Exchequer Bills. The Right Noss. Gentleman, in enplane ' tion of his molten, said it few words in so low a tone of voice as to be inaudible in the gallery. Ile con cluded by moving— “ That ti,599,6004. be granted to pay of Exchequer Hills Aired on she Supplies of the year 1819, sad which are uutstauding and unprovided fur." Mr. Ga►:NFet.r., in rising to make some observa tions upon the course pur►ued by the Right Host. Gentleman, disclaimed any wish to revive the dis- CUII*IOO 00 the Sinking Fund, which had been die. posed of three or fear weeks ago, us the country was now Cu the eve of a loan, and it was right to look back a little at the situation of the country. — He held in his hands a paper, which proved beyond all doubt, that if the system which had been so often recommended, of applyi n g ;tart of the Sink ing Fund towards the boasts-7f that system had beets adopted for the four last loans, namely, the loan of twenty-seven millions, in June 1813—of twenty-two millions in the November following— of tweittp.four millions in September 1814—and the enormous loan of thirty-six millionsin 1815— the practical effect of the Right Honourable Gen tleman's (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) sitting on this phu►, would have been at saving to the Commissioners of the Sinking Fund—that is, a saving to the public 01110 less a sum than «ix mil lions, producing an annuity to the public of g 68.000/. a sum snore than equivalent to that must odious stud demoralizing tan, the Lottery. The present Sinking Fund was 15 or 16 millions, and if what he !stnd this day wits trite, that the Right Iloti.(iesitlentuo was about to contract fur a loan of 90 millions, he would lope that the Rt. lion. Gentleman would apply slie Stet:lag Fund to the luau. Ile entreated the Rt. lion. Geittleinan not to commit himself with loan contractors', so as to prevent would arise from applying tht Sinking Fund to wards the loau. lie would uow 'shortly udiert to a rumour which was very generally afloat tins day—a rumour sithicli dee believed was • gross calumny, directed against the Right Hon. Gentlematt. The report was this—that the Right lion. Gentleman had a commituicaiieu with certain loan contractors, to whose, anal to whom only, lie had cornmeal cased the aiwowut awl particulars of the ;wended • loan. This; be would repeat, he believed to be a calamity est else Right Hun. Gentleman—he would continue to think so until 'he heard she contrary avowed by the Right Non. Genticmait himself; But if it were true. it must be evidvut to the House the •he has giro) those person* with whom hr WI romintthicaled an enormous, undue, and tali,' 441. rootage over the stockholders in gsineral. arid lac/ the public. At all events, the lit. limit Gear. if h a thought fit to communicate on this stillect with 4 few private person., he should have iiitorou r d t i,„ public at large with his intentions ; he should have stated, in Ins place, to the House, on Tharsd, l last, before the recess. the nature of the town min* it was his indention to make, instead of making 4 patrtiel communicati is to private 14111005: Itut %spits he would repeat lila hope, that the report -.1, 44 no unfounded calumny. The CHANCELtort of the EXCHEQI'r2 that, with respect to the application to . the Sioktug Fund, no etigagenient was Indite with ail pers ons to prevent the public from having every ;••Ir, that could present itself from that sourer ; sad Om Treasury relied on that fond as a certain protert. lion to the public and to themselves •Igniiist every pcsvible imposition. As to another pow', the Hon, Gentleman, he sail, Ulna be awar e 1 :,, t 1,, (th, Chancellor of the Exchequer) [oust thaincut cosminunicatrons with regard to titiaikcial I :sr•l•uttel but certiouly no secret was disclosed, vate commumeatiou was made to any vile, uf *hick advantage might be taken. 1111 r. RICARDO said, that he had heard the amount of the loan ittetitioned winch it was in the coateuipholon of the Government to not fo r , No cogpiamuicatiosi en Ilse 'object %. , s tw.kl.• ou 111,. establishment of which he was a invi:hier, slid it .a cutninunication of the kiwi was I ,, wAirly mailr in any individuals, it must give 111,111 s 1 1141tilrs4 sad decided 'Advantage over all others. 11'lkolwr sui a coinutuniuttion was made or nor, he vorlid not decide--hut lie certainly beard the tinned with such precisiou, as would induce a he. lief that something fad ben' done. r. GRENIFELL said, he now had no doubt who. ever on his mind, that the Right lion. bad dune that which lie (Mr. Gretifell) had tre.n..l till now as a most iii!;unous and unfounded lumity. The Riglrt Hun. Geidletnati slated, 1 1 ,4 be did makes coluninviication of his tinuticial aid therefore no doubt remained on Ins mind a t to the truth of the reports which floated aroma, every quarter of the City in the course of this day. Another fact lie was equally ronviiired of, on, so much from what the Right Hrio. Gentlenirr i -had said, as from what he had nut said. He sus - now quite satisfied that the Right Hon. Gentle. man did not intend to apply any part of thir Sinking Fund in aid of the intended loan. The Right Honourable Gentleman had that Treasury hod to their hands th e !sower ol prrvriit_ iiig any combination against the public iiileress; but lie 01r. (irenfell) wished to see loin ih‘t power—lie wished to see the public have that it. vantage which was intended to be 'Mown into the hands of contractors. What simple coiritritor could grapple with so large • loan as thirty cut. lions ? But if that loan were reduced to linen' millions, one, two, or three contractors vtossid be found to grapple with it. He asked, did nut the Right Hon. Gentlemen, by the course he irellftil to trace takin, give to 'owe perms an onfair sod a decided advantage over the public ? lie would tacitly ask the Right Hon. Gentleiniii, was he new prepared la give to the public the intiwmation which lie gave to the loan contrarturs?—he w vo r r i ask, whether the Right lion. Gentleman would deem it tight to state to Parliament what he had previously conunuuicated to those person*? The CHANCELLOR of the I',XCHEyURR said. he would shortly state to the'House all that lie lint said in comutunication to others. Ile had cualulteil with certain persons-all-then it wou ld h ave b e , : , of advantage to the public to provide in oats luau for the inesrut and the neat year, so that there be no loan' required fur the next year ; or 1111 the other hand, whether it would be more advisable is have a small loan, or whether any, and what put of the Sinking Fund should he applied. Mr. BARNETT said. the House should be cau tious of interfering. Lord MlL•rom said, that the Right lion. Gen tleman had admitted that he lard made a cousniu ideation. It was hot (said the N..ble Lord), so much to be complained of that an unfair advantage might hare been given to one set of contracuns above the other, but it was that it deprived the pull. he of the advantage that would necessarily be detivtd from a fair competition. The. CHANCELLOR of the ExcitEratir.• said, the nest Resolution was— " That a sum of three mifliona oterting be granted to Blajesty, fur payment of the interest of Exebeciura Bats Ulll - fur the year NUL". . - Alter snow eouve•rrntion between Mr. GREN FELL, Sir JOHN NEWPORT, and the CHANCELLoR of the EXCHEQUER, the Resolution was agreed to, The Hest Resolution proposed was— " That a sum of 1,670,000/. be gratits.l to his hisjcsiy, for interest of Duhequer Bills , ia►ytd fur the service wf Ireland." Sir J. NEWPORT raid, that whatever benefit w:is proposed to have followed from the issue of Excite, quer bills for Ireland, was completely by the manner in which Treasury hill. welt! '.sue... He paid, that having had occ.,sion to purchase Irish Treasury bill for a friend of h:s he was obliged to wait far more than three wed,. before he could iwocure it. They were, he said, entirely absorbed by one bank in that countr y , boa another in England. The CHANCELLOR of the Flcurount that the inconvenience stated by the Baronet was occasioned by the uncertainty ‘.l Irish market, but he would be anxious to it in env way that might be pointed out. The Resolution was then agreed to. The next Resolution proposed wits— " That a Fuels of 4,400,0401 should he eranteit •- jesly, fur Hut payusent orate Treasury Bilis of Inland. Agreed to. The neat Resolution was— " That • sues of 1,400,0410/. he ranted to mr• t r.r talus Exchequer Villa issued in the last yeac"—Agiced 'f he next Resolution was— " That •stues of 1,8181. he granted to his Majesty fir the Seitibb Uuseaot."—Agreed to. The House then retained, and the Committee got terve to sit ag•iin on IMolotoy next. The CHANCELS ft of the EXCHEQUER gave quince, that he *OO.l to-morrow sulunit a , niet. , :i to the House on the utshlect of the a,tessrd tear-, IRISH COURTS OF JIJSTICf. Mr. C. GRANT rase to move for Lave to la' mg its Gill for regnleting the Feta of Ilse Court Of 4.3 l Pats: eery of Ireland. It was, lie *aid, a the . • grelltegt importance to that,goontry. Cctnintssicne!s ~r Jet all th