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PARLI.43f ENTARY INTELLIGENCE. HOUSE OF WKu'. Tug4o4Y. MAY 4. WOOLWICH AND GaLLNWICH ROAD BILL, ao. The Woolwich and Greenwich Road Dill, and the Liverpool Piton Bill, were read a second . COLONIAL S LAVERY. The Bishop of LONDON presented a petition from the Church. wardens, °wafters, and other inhabitants of the pariah of Clerken well. Timing** the abolinon sl.srcry in the Colonies—Laid on the t.bit. ASSESSED TAXES. The Earl of CARIYA ntidiPetition from the free- Wider, and Wm' of the county of llnnts, praying to he relieved tram the lISICIfed taxes, and al.° vraring that the sniull residue tat the salt Tax should be repealed.--yawl un the table. LINEN BOUNTIES (IRELAN)). The Earl of LIMERICK presented a petition from the Nobi lity, Clergy, Gentry, and other inhabitants of the county of praying that the Iriunties en coarse linens nay not be withdrawn, mut also praying that the transit on foreign linens may not be abolished. Lord CARBERRY preset:el similar petitions from the Clergy, kismet,. and others of the county of Cork, and front the inhabit. lilts at Skibberaea, in the county of Cork—which were aeverally laid op the table. _ SILK TRADE. The Earl of LAUDliiiiiiLi - i - tiiitrd, that he then rose for the purpose of bringing in a dial to repeal certain Acts of his late' Moiety, relating to the Silk Trade. l'he Bill he should have the; honour to prosiest to their Lordships wet almost the same as that which bad received their Lordships sanction, and he would take the bbtety of explaining to the House why he thought the pre. ' ; sent 818 would answer better than the one that had passed. ( rhe Noble Parrs face was turned towards the woolsack, and in conse. manes his voice was v:ry imperfectly heard below the bar.) We. urdaretood his ler AO to say, that many persona who had been toot zealous fur tb , restrictimis have already changed their opi. rims; and the j. urneymen manufacturers, who still clung to the resaktioes, wou'd rather see them all repealed than that which' impelled muter. to employ their capital in London. That re :dr:aim the journeymen einsidered their strong hold, and they , would rather see the abolition of the whole take place, than the one to whkh he hid alluded. He was anxious to account the Ins ismdect to their Lordships in originating this measure, and this , was a swing motive that operated with him, lle did not share the feelings of those who thought that the Bill' of the present j aleatiou "(mold be destructive a the silk manufacture; but those ! who thought so • mild rather see all the restrictions taken off! during this year t h an in 1526. The manufacturers look upon the demands of February, March, and April, as the most important of the yeer,asd by the present system that important petted oldie year be interbred with, in bringing the Bill regarding Fre.nch silks tars mosatioa at the precise m men the other was to be acted upon. His principal object, therefore, in proposing the prevent measure ra their Lordships, was to prevent the two Bil 4 coming into ope- I ration at the same time; because, if it were adopted, his Rill would be acted upon for a twelvemonth trevious to the other be. ing in force, by which an opportunity would be afforded to the maufacturers to make themselves acquainted with the progress of the new system, before it was greeted by the Bill with respect 'to French silks. A year might now be given for a trial of that system, and on that account be had drawn their Lortiabipe at. amnion to the subject. The Earl of HARROWBY thought it extraordinary that the Noble Lard appetite should bare introduced this Bill, after their , Lordships had rejected the adoption of a similar measure on the report of their own Committee. The Earl of LAUDERDALE, in explanation, said, that as a, pcinfol the altered annotate of many individuals connected with this qomition, he would merely notice, that they used to come down in great numbers when any discussion was expected on this sub. jet ; lint that was not now the we, as they looked more favourably moo the measure that he had the honour to propose, than the one that brought the two systems in contact at the same time. The Noble Earkwas under a mistake in stating that a similar memmre had bees rejected by their Lordships, in consequence of the report, of their own Committee. The Bill was them read a first time. UNITARIAN DISSENTERS' MAISRIAGE BILL. Led DACILE presented • petition front Cambridge, in favour' of the Unitarian Marriage BilL The Noble Lord presented simi lar Petitions from two other plea, the names of which we cotld not learn; which were severally laid on the table. The Bishop of SALISBURY presented a petition from the Clergy of a diaries, the name of which we could not hear, pray-, Mg that no alteration may take place in the law relative to the mar-. eau of Diskettes. The Bishop of CHESTER presented • similar petition from the clergy OM Archiesconey of New Sarum ; as did the Right Re-1 verend Prelate froin the clergy of the city and vicinity of Chester ; from the clergy of the Deanery of Boroughbridge, Yorkshire ; trap the clergy of the Deanery of Bolton-IMMoors, Lancashire ; from the clergy of the Archdeaconry of Rochester ; and from the, orgy of the ,Arehdesconry of Bath and Wells, which were seve ralty laid on the table. The Marquis of LANSDOWN, having moved that the Home should gu into a Committee oo the Unitarian Alarelsgz Bill, The 'Whop of CHESTER rate to oppose the mum. Having sr, vaned their Lordships before when this qualm me imam thee et m d molest, be should make but a few obsenatimeo the pram' mason ; but in justice to his own feelings be was obliged to say, ton the time that had beest allowed hint to consider of the measure some it was last brought before mho it Lordships, Led only served to motien him in his former opinions. Unitarians hod no solid grounds for objecting to the marretze service. The dergyman give the weeds of dm - Weaved Lard hinvielf, and therefore it um a meltery far Dissenters to raise scruples respecting them, for by so! doing they object to make woe of words in the eererhooy, she t tey affindutingly apply in the baptismal. if t o w Noble Lord would shire him just grounds for scruples on the tart of the Unitarians, he would vote for the Bill, audible all his influence in tomeatug it; but he knew they could not. The Church of Eng land would be wanting to her high character, if she did not declare the true ebb se it eras in Jesus Christ; and he would wok their Lordships if the church had not taken every opportunity consist ent; with her faith in Christ, to meet the views of the Dissentersof e sty denomination. He maintained that she could not have more faaly considered the scruples of the Unitarians, if she acted ho. coolly by her own establishment. If the Dissenters wanted pre. -Meets for conforming to established rules, they might find them in theticrlpturea, where the great Apostle of the Gentiles set the Unitarians example, by assenting to the ceremonies of the Jews, sad the meatest authority man could have MI done the same. He bad ever Tound that cancesslon led toconcession, by which danger eus fns ovations crept in. The Church of England was • tolerant •cirtireli ; but still toleration had its limits ; and although she was oohed upon to allow person to worship God in their own way, still she must take we of herself—for it must be never forgotten, that the church was not a sect among sects, but an establishment, and she mold net sorely give up her doctrines and her discipline to suit the wishes of Dissenters. One stone after another would be pulled away from the sacred fabric, until nothing remained of it. He hoped their Lordships would not give up that church that had con— Maimed so lamely to the_prosperity of the country, and therefore he should move, Mat their Lordship. should go into the Committee on stet day three mouths. The Bishop of EXETER observed, that if he could conceive that the doctrines of the Church of England would be endangered by the present measure, be would not support it ; but thinking that Me scruples of the Ilnhanuss ought to be considered, and that the Chu:eh of England would be strengthened by its adoption, because it would prevent thou who differed from her tenets being compelled to join to her amnia, be should give his rote for the measure. Amendments, be was aware must be proposed in the Committee. Tie ekes that be had in view was to assimilate the present mea. sure ha mush as wield. to that of the latit Session He thought a! Masi ought to be introduced to prevent, as far as possible, clan destine marriages • and ameba clause, lie thought, would be of adeantage, that Diameters should keep their own registry. With eater aluorions be thought the Bill would be desirable, and there km shook{ vote ter going into &Committee. The. Bishop of ST. DAVID'S ruse, when the cry of " Ques tion" be erne general. The Right Rev. Prelate, persevering in his itursainstion to address their Lordships, stated that the doctrines DI which Unitarians object were professed by the great mejority of C.OfiLiDOD.• They might's well object to the Scriptures themselves es to the Marriage Service. The objection would apply to the whole dottrime of Claristenim. Ile should oppose their Lordships gems into the Committee.. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY observed, that it was true the Unitarians beef the existence of the Trinity ; and he! mull ash their Lordships what the Church was eoatending Mel the present system? a simulated w part went on the ut the padre arlanato the marriage a:smutty. (Hear, hear, hear, from the Opposition Benches.) It was neither atom mat km than repeating the mike in one sense, and receiving it in another; a 'poem of preeariatim that he must ever Moto:Atm (Cheering.) Receiv ing, as'he believed the nicaiure wood!, in the Committee, such al tam:tone as would make it free freed objection, lie should vote for itegning into that stage. The Champ of ST. DAVID'S and the Archbishop of CADTIL.' lost Mutually txplained. The Mirquia of LANsDOWN said that he should be sorry, from what he had heard both in and out of the House, to allow the question to be put without adverting to opinions that had been gives respecting this measure ; particularly those that had been _pivsuut of Mena, which were in complete misaeprehensios of the RAI, add inconsistent with the law of England ; because, when he hosed it laid that Me law should remain with regard to marriages, as it did in the time of William—to that he would answer, if the! law did exist at present, as it did in the reign of Wiliam, there Mild be no ocessinte for an application (loin the Unitarians for relit The law introduced bJyLord Ilarthecke, the tfigilleo. 11. was an ineovation of the old law of the land, and placed Dim sealers, 'and matieularly Uniunians, under restraints that' had' not beere experienced. Lord Hs rdwickes was a bill to Imam etardedne lutorttges, and it incidentl, brought Dissenters wader the necessity of being included in it. the Right Reverend Prelate (Chester) had said that concessions must stop somewhere ; bet in the present instance no eamsaiiin was asked of the Church of /England. It was declared not to be necessary to alter the Liturgy ; and he we would repast no concessions were required from the Church. It was to relieve her frotn the necessity ut admitting POOTOM into bee Mau for the moment, and for the purpose of con. wassenem. who did mot believe ia, her doctrines, and whom she knew did sat believe is them. He had on a former occasion attended to the observation of the Noble sod Learned Lord on the Iroolsack, j but he could not find in them any reason for foregoing the measure Mat he had brought forward ; and be was still less inclitted to wen to the doctrine of the Noble and Learned Lord on other : peseta to which be refund ea that mess on. There was strays a dlcinetton taken between blasphemy and those who entertained a i dab:mace of opinion am points 1 itch:trine ; although the furious *way of a mob had caused one the first philanthropists of the crummy (the Noble Marquis andel, we believe, to the tveatment of Dv. Priestley) to be treated with die mo disgraceful indignity. • IWhen opposition came from so high an authority as the Noble sad Learned EarlOP the Wombat* to a Incas:ire that eppein.4 to him so unobjectiormlee, he would ask the Noble :lord whether he apprehended danger to the authority or revenue of the Church ? The privilege now nought by the Iris:senors had existed in Ireland for a length of time, and the clauses under which they exercised ( that privilege were much larger than those at present sought. to: the An of 1711' was only a rotenone that confirmed an Act of tieurge the Second, by which all Dissenters marriages were declared valid. The only opposition to that Act e as, that it was not such an Act as WILI that night objected to. as ! directed against the Establishment of the Church. That Bill , the House of Cotutr.oas in Ireland without opposition. , ,177171 Leeds an opposition and division wok place ; in which di vision a ta• c roman of Right Rev. Prelates were in: luded. The Bishops a .0 divided on that occasion signed a protest, declaraory ' of their opposition to the Bill, because it did not provide sufficient security against clandestine niarriagss, because it was not distinct i res Ing renew. rod because it dal not as.itnilate su ffi ciently the 'I r is of Dissenters with those of members of tile Establishment. • le Church should get rid of simulated admission ; and feeling, I strongly on that point, lie wished for DO assent to his measure ' but the assent of the heart. Those persons who believed re -1 ligion to be a mere engine of Gove rn ment, he could easily I, Imagine were but little scrupulous in encouraging acquiescence ;in such n:atters, not carieg whether simulated or sincere ad- I. mission of doctrine existed; but such proceedings were unworthy I of a Christian country, and unworthy of a Protestant kingdom. An amendment had been proposed, to which he should give no opposition. He thought no preference was ehewn to the Dissenters above the Protestants of this country. As to the amendment pro : posed by a Rev. Prelate, with respect to keeping a registry, lie thought no objection could be made to that proposition, except as 'it might affect a general registry. The object of legislation was • to make the ceremony of marriage as binding as possible, which could only be weakened, If not dissolved, if at the moment of con feree by that obligatron, they were compelled to use words in a • sense which they could not attnbute conscientiously to them. He ob ',lend many force being used ; such force would only be injurious to the moral character of those who used it ; it could not make con e vats, though it might create hypocrites. It was upon these grounds, after the enlidity se this claim had, as he understood, been admitted, ' that he laid this Bill on the table, in order that they might go into a Committee upon its envisions. I The LORD CHA NCELLOR said, the respect he felt for the Noble Lord, and fur the Reverend Prelate, made it impossible for ' him not now to state the grounds upon which he never could con ! sent that this Bill should go into a Committee. He did not say ' that no such Bill could be adopted, but with respect to the Mea -1 sure now befiwe the House, it was one, which, for the sake of the Dissenters themselves, should never receive the sine lion of that House. After a long life, now nearly exhausted— after all the experience it had conferred on him—after a long and laborious attention to the subject, he must protest, for the sake of I the Dissenters themselves, against any measure that had a tendency to degrade the Established Church. No man wished more liberty —no one a more extensive toleration to the Dieseuters than he did, , and he was firmly persuaded that that toleration could only be en ' joyed where such an Establishment as the Church of England ex isted. The Noble Lord would excuse him if he adverted to some thing that had fallen front him on a former discussion of the Bill. He (the Movie of Lansdown) was pleased to find fault with me on account of a distinction I then drew between the Uni tarians and the Dissenters. Persons denying the doctrine of the Trinity, were exempted from the benefit of the Toleration Act. Such opinions, however speculative, were not regarded as the sentiments of Dissenters, but as. in fact, contrary to the Chris. tiaa religion. A case mese in Westminster Hall, which was argued below him by a peat man and a most profound lawyer, fur whose opinions on every subject he had always felt the greatest reverence; he alluded to the late Sir Samuel Readily. Sir Samuel Roinilly, in arguing before him the caw of the Attorney-lieneral and Parson. which was upon a petition filed to carry into effect certain charitable object,. of the will of the testator—SOS. Remaly. in that very case, did insist that the common law, with respect to Unitarians, remains, as it originally stood ; that the doctrines they professed could not be regarded as the doctrines of Dissenters, but that they were contrary to the Christian religion. That with to ether Mannino., the Court over which he (the Lord C ) presided would have been bound to carry the will into 111LOCUMS0 j but that with respect to Unitarianism (so that great luminary of the law was pleased testate it) he had as much authority to interfere as be would to carry into effect some project fur the establishment of Judaism. Ile trusted their Lordships would not think that he did wrong in refusing to decide that question. He was sitting in the Court of Equity, and not in a criminal Court, and the ground upon which he put it was, that that charity was instituted before the 9th of William, but his decision did not in fact touch, for that was unnewesary for the purposes in the cause, the objection of Sir ha- Reuel Romilly. Raving made this explanation In vindication of his own conduct, he should confine himself to the Rill WWI: He thought it hail been pretty chaffy stated and substantiated that the principle upon which they were called to pass this Bill was such as would sanction the call, and make it utterly ha possible for them, withal( being guilty of pees and fla grant inconsistency, to refuse that oill—he meant that it would authorise all the Diameters to all upon their Lord ships to pass a Bill, with a similar object to the prensist, foe their re lief. But it wan said that this Bill 111•11 *liiikii WOWS INV tad done the Mae thing required by It he the Jens Neil Quakers. But what had bees done 101' Jews and (linkers IN their Lordakips see; and if a Bill with a similar object was Induced, they would treat it accorningly. This was not a deg& MI requiring relief for the Unitarians; indeed if be wee dieresed to de se, but that was rather for a Committee, he would tear its perrisioes to pieces. This Bill professed to relieve all who ilk tiwebis as to the Trinity. But who wee they who held there tees ale ? Not merely Unitarians, but Arians and Deists. But they wished to make the Church of England a participator with these sects. To such an attempt he would sq - - . Non bane movement nee in ono cede morantur. In short he would not sacrifice to the policy stated in this Bill, the paramount policy of the Choreh of England--to that sacrifice be would not be accessary. He thought that a worse Bill than the present had neves bemintriedaced to the House. Lord HOLLAND said, that after the discussion which had al ready taken place on a former night on this measure, he hardly ex pected to have heard • speech of so much warmth as that with which their Lordships had been favoured by the Noble andLommed Lord. Indeed, so lit de hadlie anticipated any debate on this measure, that he had been accidentally engaged, up to the very moment his entering the House, in the 'aerosol of a work of one of the purest men, and one of the ablest writers of modern times—he meant the late Mr. Cowper; and be was very much diverted in reading a story, which Noble Lords at first sight would think very little ap plicable to the question then before the House. When the writer of the letter. Mr. Cowper, was at Ramsgate, he was walking along the side of the coast, and he saw there a great and eminastlasyer whom he calls Sam Sprats (a laugh); he was meditating deeply, and the poet, anxious to ascertain the cause of his thoughtfulness, inquired, and received from the deep lawyer this answer—" I was wondering how such a production as that sprat should proceed from ao vast anti infinite an element." Now, in hearing the Noble and Learned Lord on this question, he had felt exactly the converse of Jack Sprats' amazement. Hew such a Bill as that now on the table, with so circumscribed an object, could disturb so grave and enlightened an assembly, he was utterly at a loss to discover. How he could think that this miserable Bill should disturb the whole state of the church, was one of those questions which would puzzle the most profound resolves of the policy of the Noble and Learned Lord. He really would recommend to the Noble and Learned Lord, anxious as he professed himself for the Establish ment, not to give way to that dangerous practice of thus call. ing out wolf when a mere mouse, a church mouse, stalked through its aisles. The whole Bill mounted to this--whether per sons professing Unitarianism in this country should be allowed to marry as they were permitted previously to the Act of 1758--whether they should be allowed, following the dictates of their own con science, to abstain from the repetition of language, to which, in the sense it was used by the established church, they had a conocien nous objection. But a Noble and Rev. Prelate had on that night taken it on him to explain the scruples of other people. He said that the Unitarians ought to feel, what in point of fact they did not feel, any scruple on the °elision. Now he (Lord Holland) knew no other way of judging men than by their declarations ; he had no other mode of judging them than as he should wish to be judged himself; and when he said that any particular eel or declaration was contrary to his conscientious felling, he conceived that no man had a right to say to him that they were not contrary - that be was in error. Then words, said the Noble and Rev. Prelate, were the words of our Saviour--tire Upitarian uses them in other places Urdu declaration of our Saviour. To which he replied, that the Unitarians did employ these words, but in another sense. Ac the weeds of Christ they used them ; but when these words were, as contended, distorted front their original acceptation—when a different meaning was annexed to them, they refused their assent to such a meaning. " Oh !" said the Noble and Bev. Prelate, but Hyou may put one sense on them, and we will put another."— e was sorry to hear such language—such an argument in favour tit prevarication used in that House. The Noble and Learned Lord had contended that this Bill made the Church the handmaid of the Dissenters; but what was the Church at present ? Not the handmaid, but the prostitute of the Dissenters—consenting to marry them, though they professed at the eery moment of the ce remony to disregard it. Thus did the Church beeome— Id quod dicere nolo. The Noble and Learned Lord had thrown out, and certainly no one was more qualified, doubts as to the Quakers and Jews' Mar rhige Hill ; and he had called upon his Noble Friend to bring in a Bill similar to that measure. Would the Noble and learned Lord support it ? But the Noble and Learned Lord, when be (Lord Holland) had, upon the Alien Bill, asked him who were Aliens ; he had hot thought prorper, or he could not, answer ; so, upon the detention of Bonaparte, lie would not give any opinion upon its legality. But how consistent via that with the course taken by the Noble and Learned Lord to-night. When they were stirring a single step in the march of toleration, his (tiara for the Church. nursed in doubt, Caine forward to the assistance of the Noble and L•arnal Lord. One Noble and Reverend Prelate said that this Bill would be injurious to the dignity of the Church. He thought that the sentiments which the Noble Metropolitan held I and expressed on this subject, were not merely the feelings of a ' liberal gentleman, but of a true Christian. The Noble and learned Lord had that night professed his anxious regard for the Church of England. He recollected to have read • very' lively invective against exacieration ; and that exaggeration consisted in something said in Parliament. l'he Noble and Learned Lord would hare an opportunity of consulting the individual from whom that observation came. The exaggerstions they had heard tmnight surpassed, he more than suspectal, the exaggerations to which the Noble and Learned Lord referred. He supported the Bill because he thought it did not interfere with the privileges of the Church—because it tended to quiet the scruples of r leibli°•• • MOW. _Peak and respectable ital, to whom he *as wii in ss rent tbe sadistic% for by the NH! The Earl W LIVARPOOL said, that he meant to vote foe this 11 4 1 ring into a itimmiften. He was • sincere friend to the to kill" of the Eatahlieltett Church, and be could on to this measure tot • scintilla of evidence injurious to the interests of the Efts- blipped Church. ft the que m lon was put to him whether he would' vote fer a similar Bill as applies! to an o er dissenter., his answer was, that he must first see the Hill. But he did not bee. if clandes tine marriages and fraud were guarded agaima, 'natter. of i,treat dd. bettl.y, but if they were, and provided both parties were dow a t e m he confessed he saw neobjeciien to such general relief. They were not acknowledging any new principle. They had recognised the principle In the instance of.lews and Quskert ; but his Snide end , hemmed Friend on the Ward/tank had stmed that doubts existed as to the validity of such marriages. Ile knew no sublets upon which doubts might not he entertained. But marriages had already, since ! Lord Ilardwickex time, invariably been celebrated between Jews, !and great property had passed in consequence of such marriages. ! Differing as he did from the Noble Harm oa mane questions affect ing, as he thought, the interests of the Church, he certainly agreed ! with him in thinking that it was not politic to apprehend the danger of the Church, or express that apprehension upon every important measure like the present. There were perhaps contained in this measure some provisions which a prudent legislation would rectify 1 when they entered the Committee. The Bishop of CH EsTEte rose to explain. He repelled the charge made against him by the Noble heed of wishing to encou rage reservattoo. The terms to which he referred were used in two distinct senses, and the different +temptations I:nown and sanctioned by both parties. This was not rewervaion ; it was giving a mere plosive assent to the declaration. Lord HOLLAND explained that he had made no charge. He had merely stated the sphatance of that whichtisd now been con fessed by the Noble and Res lord himself. The Marquis of IA NMDOWN explained. The House then divided -5 Contents - - 1 p m , i e . - _ _ _ a 60 Not Comma - t c Present - - - - :Ai Proxies - - . . - .0 1414ority pert the committal of the Bill -31 i Adjourned at Eight eltlock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Tv F.sUAT, M •Y 4. The Speskar took the (tier ,t four o'clock. 111 F. Johnstone front the flabe of the Irish Secretary, presented some Returns relative to Vie Maecenas in Ireland.--Lsid on the table. BLACEPAIARS BRIDGE. Mr. Alderman WOODtraught up the Report oldie Committee on the Clackfriara Bridge Bin, and obtained leave to bring in a SOUTH LONDON DOCKS. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition train the fellowship portent of Locdoe, agaltigt the South London Docks Bill.—Laid on the table. HIDES AND SKINS. The following petitions were presented in faiour of the Hide and Skins Bill 7—From the butchers of Peterborough, by Ile. &sr lett ; from the butchers of Cupnr, by Sir IL Ferguson t from the butchers of Coventry, by Mr. P. Monte ; from the butchers of I wadenhall•narket, and by Mr. Curlers ; from the butchers of Liverpool, by .7rE r st isson ; and from the butchers of Arundel, by Mr. Kemp. The following petitions were presented against the Bill :—From the tanners of Alsoctieviter ' by Mr. Blackburn ; hum the tanners of Wolverhampton, by Sir John Wrottesley ; from the tanners of Newark, by Sir R. Heron ; two front the tanners of Liverpool, by General Gascoyne, and Mr. Huskisson ; from the tanners of Lan caster, by Mr. Green ; from the tanners of Orford. by Mr. Lock hart; and hum the tanners of Canterbury. Abingdon, and Leigh. on, by Mr. illaberley ; all of which were ordered to be referred to I the Committee oo the Bill FOREIGN WOO L _ f the "A-growers Mr. LOCKHART preadea w pet ition • we ,g_L e in on th e of Coolecont again" the aulmrtata "e'en table. BOUNTIES ON CURING FISH. Col. TALBOT presented a petition from the fisheries of Sker. ries, in the county of Dublin, a”ainst the repral of the fishing( bounties. The petition wee aigned'by 2,000 persons. who stated that. ! they had expended all their mesas in the induetrii.us pursuit ofi fishing, in conewitigusee of tbeeneouragement given by the bounties for the promotion of the Lilting interests of Ireland. The peti- 1 tianera enumerated the great disadvantages that would be neees surily consequent on the repeal of those bounties. The present'', system had been under operation orly three years, and bad not, trefbre, received a fair trial. (Hear, bear.) The prc‘jected re peal had excited great alarm and dissatiifsztion duoughout Ireland. —Ordered to lie on the table. COUNTY COURTS BILL. Mr. D. fiILBERT preeented a polities from the inhabitants of Pomace, in favour of the County Courts DilL—Laid on the table. Mr. DEN AIAN presented a petition from the Counsel practiaing in the Palace Court, praying that a clause of compersation to them should be intseduad into the County Courts Bill, if the aseael should pass into-a law.—Lald on the table. SLAVIC Lord G. 6031ERSET reamed a petition from Mosinee& against die slave tredez-Lleidon tbetable. SUOTCH SPIRIT TRADE. pta il ying t. .. K i i t ba rit p° t trad tka tT e a ki i rA n ou scodinc_( aa il w l ouid "" t h a t ee i:tu Pt lta ii co ica nattl fr e "l r:tion pu the mh etat ies e . of the hderetl to lie at the table. SALT DUTY. Mr. BYNCI presented a petition from the landholders of the esnaty of Middlesex, against the Salt Tax. Mr. LEYCEST ER begged to be allowed to say a few words on the subject t f this petition, as it operated very hard upon the poor, for out of &WWI. collected on it, 300,0001. were paid by the poor ; it was felt by them tube quite as severe as th. Coal Duty ; he trusted. therefore, speadily to see it repealed.—The petition was then ordered to lie oil the table. COAL DUTIES. Mr. ELLIS placated to petition from the shipowners of South Shiekh, agshist the Duty ea Cosh carried coaatvriie.—Laid oa the S GLASS. Mr. LITTLETOPI moved tor a return of the duties and braw -1 Wu* ,flowed on the evl'oelation of glue to Ireland, front the 6th of January, 1816, to the bdi of January , 1824, distinguishing the years..—Ovdered. Mr. CIATEIS prevented a petition from the owners and oc cupiers of land in Wickham, in the county of Suffolk, against any alteration in the Corn Law,. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE a....‘1 that the opinions which he had formerly entertained nn the sub 'cot of the Corn Laws had under gone a considerable alteration fro - in the experience that the last four or five years had furnished him wit ;he thought that the farmers ought to be protected: here was a manure proposed by w hi c h corn at present in the warehouses uns‘v bond was to Ix taken out in orda to be converted into flour, foe ‘he pttrposes, it was true, of exportation, but there was no security tf at it would not be brought Into the English market to the detriment :tithe English farmer. Mr. HUME • marked that the petitiones were completely mis taken as to the objects of the Bill against whist they were complain ing, as the corn was to be taken from the granaries to be ground into flour for the consumption of the colonies. Busk a measure was materially calculated to as • .t our carrying trade, in:d to open for us a new source of connnt de, the colonies being at present supplied by America. Sir J, M ROTTESLEY said, that, If he sow the Bill in the same light as the Honourable Member bir Aberdeen, he would nut oppose it: but a consequence of the Bill's pawing would be to ai - &tract good and sound four from the market, sod to 4uhstitute stale and musty flour fur it ; be therefore shnuki cppo•A it. Mr. ERIN'S observed, that the corn to be ground into ROUT might be so guarded, as to prevent its being brought into the Eng lish maeket. Mr. HUSKISSON rose for the purpose of protesting azsinst the irregularity and inconvenience of debating on a Bill which was not yet even before the House. lie thought it could be beam fur gentlemen to reserve what they bad to say until the Bill cannon to be discussed. After a kw wools from Mr. D. BROW:4E and Mr. T. WILSON, the petition was ordered to lie on the task. BOUNTIES ON IRISH LINEN. Mr. BROWN piesentesiapetitiZifr;Mtbe;;lnty of Mayo, against the repeal dale bounties on . the exportation of Irish Linen. —Laid'oo tbs table. BRISTOL POUT DUES. Lard E. SOMERSET presented throe petitions from the eouoty of Gloucester, against the Bristol Port I►ut..—laid on the table. .IRISH ASSOCIATIONS-ORANGE AND RIBBON MEN. pvi;eaied a petition item the poor farnien in Castlinown, complaining of the existence of stela n political socie ties, to which all the rids that at present afflicted Ireland might be attributable. The petitioners stated, that their omipstions were naturally peaceful, bet Wat they vete compelled by the partisans of the one side or the other, the Orange-men or the Ribbon. men, to join in their outrages. He regretted Oro I /range lodges had assumed a legal character from events that had revently lived, bud wherever an Orange lodge was established • Ribbon one was sure to follow, and thint the two panics were lirought into pei. rental contact, and the xllisioa wra sure to be a violent one. He was sorry that the Right Hon. the Foreign Secntury was not in his place, as he remembered that on nee ocssion his eloquence had been exerted to put down dime veeiesies, and he bud than stated that they were opposed to all good government. Sir J. NEWPORT obftirved, that ne had again and again called I the attention of the House to the mischievous consequences that must ensue front the giving support to such asitoeistions as those complained against in the petition they had been denourced and reprobated huts the Bench of Justice, and yet it was no uncommon thing to see them holding high official situations., allowing their names to be inserted in the public papen as Masters and Grand Masters of Orange Ledger. It was idle to say that the Got errnient was supported by the Ouingemien and opposed by the. Ribbon , men. It was the buiineas of Government to promote peace, and such condoet as he had conned was calculated only to excite hilts.' thin and ill-will. It was atisuni to suppose that while such a ante of things lasted, any one would be found foolish enough to risk their capital in the improvement of the cottony, or dud the people would acquire habits of industry and activity convertible to any good purpose. Tbe petition was 4sen ordered to lie on the table. COMBINATION LAWS. . Mr. HUSK ISSON presented a petition from the stocking tusk.' ms of tilasgow, against the Combination Laws. Lord F. oinoRNE prearoted a similar petition from the boot and shoe makers of Cambridge.--Laid on the table. ASSEESED TAXES. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE presented a peiitier. Item Cr& Carp, lin the county of tionseniet, against the Mensal 'fur. 111ABERLY presented • similar petition from Dart mouth.—Laid ois the table. Mr. M A BERLY postponed the mntion of which he had gieen notice for tiumorrow, for the repeal of the Assess.: 'faxes, till Monday next. EDUCATION IN IR L'LA ND. Sir J. NEWT'olifirres Ir..a the gentlemen and clergy of the diocese of Cork soil Ross complaining that they were deprived of the diocesan rehool it:E. Board of Education, inasmuch as that school wait united to another, and that in a place rim ea necessary as where their own existed. The Board of Edu. cation united three dioceses, and gave the inhabitants orly one din. cesan school, while it was pretended that they were anxious to diffuse the blessing of education throughout Ireland. Mr. I. FOSTER said, that the plan for uniting the diocesan schools arose from the report of the Board &Commissioners, which took place several years ago. The present Board used every dili. ' gene to discharge their duty faithfully, and as Commissioners were i.hortly proceeding to Ireland, whatever defects existed might be remedied. They might allow every Bishop a diocesan school, and perhaps ade quate funds for the support of each. Sir J. NEN .'ORT deprecated the giving large salaries to mu ' tern of public schools, as idleness and neglect generally followed, and the education of youth was neglected. Mr. GOULBURN said, that the dioceses of Cork and Ross be ing united, the Board of Education could not comply with the me morial, praying the continuance of the school at Ross. The ques tion was referred to the Attorney-General, and the Board had acted on his opinion. It was considered by them that Cork required a greater extent of education than was necessary at Ross, which could not suppovr a proper person to be at the head of the school. Sir J. NEWPORT said, the school had existed at Ross with great character until an improper person had been appointed. Another person, for his own interest, wished to have the school at Cork, but was that any mans why the inhabitants and gentlemen in the neighbourhood of Rosa should be without one? lie WAS happy that the Commission was appointed, and he should like to hear the name, of the persons to whom those powers were to be en ' trusted ? He did not press for a committee, on the assurance from Ministers that proper persons would be appointed ; and he therefore felt himself entitled to tall foe information on Sj very important a subject. Mr. GOULBURN could assure the Right Hon. Bart, that the Commission would be speedily appointed, and that proper persona would be named for such an arduous duty. Sir J. NEWPORT—I look to the Ministers of the Crown, and not to the Irish Government, in making the proper appointments. Mr. PEEL could assure the Hon. Hart. that 43°7mila:tent was fully aware of the importance of the subject, and roold give it all the consideration it deserved. I he petition was then laid on the table. BONDED WHEAT. Sir J. NEWPORT presented S i iiii;ior; from the Chamber of Commerce of Waterford against Bill foe allowing foreign bonded wheat to be sold in die market.—Laid on the table. • - Meuage from the Lords announced their Lordships' agree ment to several public and private Bills. COLONIAL SLAVERY. . . Mr. R. SMITH fieTtriWeannouth, against Colonial Slavery.— to be printed. SCOTCH BREWERS. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the brewers of the county of Forfar, complaining that to consequence of the inferiority of the Scotch barley, and the continuance of the present dutythe in tended measure of the Chancellor of the Exchequer woul d do them a most serious injury. The duty should be placed on malt and not on beer. Such a simplification would in every way benefit the public, and do no injury to the revenue.—Ordered to be printed. COMBINATION LAWS. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the carpenters and turnen of Manchester, and front the butchers of Neogate-market. against the Combinatiou Laws.—Referred to the Committee on ,crtimans. CAMBRIDGE. Colonel FRENCH presented a petition from the Town Clerk of the borough of Cambridge, praying for compensation for his losses under the County Courts Bill—Laid on the cable. COMPENSATION_ BILL. The Compensation Bill was ordered to be referred to a Com mittee of the whole House on Friday next. HIDES AND SKINS BILL. Lord BEViIItAVE fermented • petition from the tanner, of Chester, against the Hides and Skins Bill ; and from Artisgluun, against Colonial Slavery, Mr. ABE RCROM BT presented a petition from 4,500 journey. men of Edinburgh against the Combination haws. The petitioners expressed their thanks to the Right Hon. Gentleman, Mr. Mutts son, and also to the Hon. Member for Aberdeen. for the part they had taken in this important subject..—Ordered to be printed. The Hon. Member also presented • petition frm Toughs', in Ireland. against the projected Bill (Sr &Bowing bonded corn to be sold in the market. MO C. predicated a petition train the batebm of Reading, against the Hides BU.—Ordered to be printed. COUNTY COURTS BILL. Lord A LTHOR P presented a petition from the inhabitants of ' Manchester, in favour of the County Courts BIM It appeared that a petition, praying to exempt the county of lAhalitCr. was gm up by a number of attorneys in that neighbourhood, but that as soon as it was discovered, the present petition was set on foot, and slimed by a great proportion of the - Inhabitants. He had no doubt that many mere petitions would be presented in favour of the County Courts BilL—Laid on the table. Lord A. HAMILTON, in presenting . a petition from the dis tillers of the county of Lanark, complaining of the injuries they continued to suffer from the prohibitions to which they were sub. jetted in the sale of their spirits in the British and other markets, and prayed to be put on a similar footing with the Irish and Eng. lish distillers. The Noble Lord enforced the necessity of attend.. ing to the prayer of the petitioners, and asked the Chancellor cf the Exchequer for sonic explanation on the subject. The CII A NCELLOR the EXC II EQUER admitted, that in the discussions on this subject he had held out hopes to the Scotch distillers, which he regretted he could not realise at this moment. There was an inconsistency in the laws which required • remedy, and all he could do would be to um every effort to find out one ; but In the course of the present Session be could produce no definitive plan. To proceed by plea-meal would he an erro neous policy, which ought to be avoided. All he asked was not to be forced into a premature or ill-digested plan, while he ad : mined that the regulation as they now existed could not continue. ' It would be his bustnese, as it was his duty, to give the subject his host and earliest attention. Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON said, that the Articles of Union with Ireland were violated in preventing Irish spirits from coming freely into England. The people of Ireland bad a legal right to bring every one of their manufactures into the English market without any interruption. English spirit in its raw state was dan. gerous here; but it was well known that Irish whisky was, in its raw state, in Ireland, a most excellent article (a laugh), a most ex cellent spirit, thank for centuries past, and he hoped would be so for centuries to come. He hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer would realise his promise, and no longer continue to violate that clause of the Act of Union which allowed the exportation .1 Irish manufactures of every description, free of restraint, into this market. -- " T ill. DENNIS BROWNE said a few words, which were inau dible in the 31r. HUllf t c a lled upon the Right Hon. Gentleman to grant that part of the petitioner.' ',rarer, merely to put them ea the same footing as the Irish and other d Millets. Let the Right HOC. Gen tleman then take his own time to digest the general measure, as ap plicable to all parts of the kingdom. Ale. 31ABER1.Y hoped an equalization of the duties would take plrce, and thus prevent smuggling, and put all parts of the country in the same situation. The Petition was then ordered to be printed. • 31r. J. WILLIA AIS wished to know what instruction were thrill to the Chancery C0=11661011 to report she evidence they re. nerved ? Air. PEEL replied, that just now he could give no direct answer to the ttuestion. IRELAND. Mr. I h )ULBURN gave notice, that on Thursday week (as we understoon), he would move fur an inquiry into the situation of the disturbed essinties in Ireland. EM.PLOVMENT OF THE IRISH POOR. I Captain MA BERLY said, the in banging forward this Jaime ' ant question, Hs• should base drawn much on the attention and con. sideratiun of the !louse. Hsi the subject been taken up by abler hand* he would In been glad of it ; but that not being the case, belch it to be his in perative duty to bring it before their notice; and in doing that he wos Id certainly abstain from using any irritating topic. One of the gmatest evils of Ireland was a redundant pops - lotion, and not the poem on which the peasant was fed, and to which many of her milli were falsely attributed. The habits and manners of the Irish people, and the system under which they were governed, produced her satiny evils. Local grievances in Ireland caused general commotion owing to the degraded and debased state of it. At different times, a :ffemit causes produced those evils, and theuestion now was. how t, remedy the redundancy of the popula tion? The low qualification of freeholders gave a factitioi s In crease to population, and another cause of it was the interest of the Catholic Clerior, who amour. wed early marriages, in order to their own support. These s. iniulants should be taken away, or if not taken away, should at aa events be lessened. Pope. lation could be repressed (if hi might use the words by the ' increase ref capital, employing an increased number of labourers. If comforts were increased, and wag:. at • higher rate, the popula tion of coune would be so touch better situated; and the difficulty was how to produce such a beneticia: change in Ireland, where so many nioral and other causes existed so prevent it. It was In vain that a country produced in the utmost profusion the fruits of the earth ; it was still further necessary that there was security of pro. petty also. Want of employment always generated Insecurity. (Hear, hear.) It was, therefore, with a view of inducing the in. flux of liritids capital into Ireland, that he particularly dwelt upon the importacce and paramount necessity of devising sane means for the employment of the people. It was further remarkable, where employment prevailed disturbances seldom occurred. Ile would refer particularly to the county of Mayo, where manufac tures were cultivated and enuoutaged, and where disturbances did not exist. The evidence given on the Committee which sat last year for considering the state of Ireland, corroborsted his views on this subject. Amongst other witnesses who tendered their testt. many on that occasion was the Hon. Member fur Waterfued: the tendency and effect of his testimony went to skew, that tranquillity prevailed wherever employment was given. Mr. Owen, of Lanark, also had resided eight months in Ireland, and the result of his observations was, that distress and disturbawee were only to be found where employment could not be procured. In Corkaguiny, it ap. paned, from the testimony of the engineer who was appointed to the inslectibe of that baron, that as soon as employment wa s , !given disturbance cowed. ( (Hear.) The making of new and proved lines of read were found available in most !meanies, b, (the meet* of employment, to restore the people to pacifi e d s „ a orderly habits. Mr. Furlong had given similar teutintuny ; mi d I this testimony, particularly as regarded the fourtenay od a: , I I where, from the want of proper employment, insurrecuun tu r d; I out, but where now quiet and content were to be toand, from g m employment that had been glint. In newly instances, person, wIL were only able to earn fourpence, were, from the improved star. of occupation and employment, enabled to earn from tenaven ee a shilling. The evider.ce of Mr. Piero Mshony was of a similar tendency. He rated, that from Newmarket to Castleisland few gentlemen resided, a distance of more than twenty mile*, and even there the cessation of disturbance always accompanied the en, ofpeasantry. From these and other cireurnstarce; p oymerst the w sh aeyro n s a ts ed ion co w nt s en s i t n an evi d ta l !) ,,,, le, peri tha ry t , en an e d plo g y a m ve tn secu t of ri th ty e toirropeele property. lie was aware that Mr. Adam Smith would be quoted, in • sition to the grant lie intended that night should be allocated for the minim* of his present motion; but he would sa y, that the opinions 3f other political economists were in opposition to d use of Mr. Smith. Poli:ics was essentially a moral science. I t wa s founded on a comparison of moral events, and we. liable in many instances to exceptions. Indeed, the pricipal law of th a t science, and one on which all the other laws w ere emir. quent, was, that every min sought to follow his own inse. rest; yet even this principle was liable to exception; and If the foundation was insecure, surely it would not be said but that the sunerstnecture might also be unstable. 3lr. Rican* and other political economists were of opinion, that a sum might be laid aside for the promotion of some particular interest. In the re. port of the Committee of last year, it was stated that the apps. prestion of money to Intel purposes could not generally b e d e . fended, b butt that, in the particular instance of Ireland, there were reasons which might wartant the extension of aid and noisome, • to that country, in particular branches of industry, which branches afterwards might be be left to mourzl causes far sae cess or Uwe, The principal departments of national industry to which be (Mr. Maberly) would beg to recommend the application of the own be was now about to propose were, the encouragement of the fisheries, and the cultivation of flax. The fisheries :night panicularly be • made available to the prosperity end increasing wealth of the country; hut from the want of skill in the Mbermen, and the want of general encourgetnem, th were not in that st ate of advanced. prosperity in which the shou ld have been, front the abundance of fish upon her comets. Atte flax, it appeared that Ireland was, ! front its soil, capable of growing that article of manufsdure in greater abundance and in greater perfection titan any other parts( Europe. Hillard and Flanders could not cope with Ireland* the production of thee article, either in quantity or in excdhoce. The Hon. Member here adverted to the evidence of Mr. Oldham, of Dublin, a linemdrapee, with a view of supporting his opitione in the production of this commodity. After enumerating,* de tail, the disadvantages under which the Irish agricultunst la. bound, from the want of skill and of capital, he prowled that a sum, no exceeding a million, should be devoted to the papaws he had alluded to. - Those who received any portion of this 0141 should give security for its repayment, so that the country should not be burdened with the e . .pense of this charge. He pretend this mode of dispensing the money, should it be voted to that of expending it in public works, fur as anon as the public works erased the population reverted to their original state: be would therefore prefer that the money be entrusted be entrusted to the proprietois of the soil. He was aware even that this proposition was liable to objection, as it might be apprehended that gentian* might dispose of the money thus entrusted to them, in paying off mcrgages on their estates, rather than to purposes of agricultural improvement, as proposed by the Legislature. He would there. fore propose a cheek or corrective against the liability of such abuse. For this reason he would propose the appointment ofa Commmisson, which, with the aid of inspector and local magistrates, might be assured of the satisfutormess of the security before the money was advanced. He would retiontmendthe prin. eiple of the charitable loans to be adopted in the distribution of this money ; and mentioned, as one of the many instances of the ad. vantages of this system, s case ecmmunicated to him by a Catholic clergyman, of several boats which were rotting on the shoos, but which, by the means of this loan, were enabled to renew their semi. pation. The case of Scotland was conclusive as to the advantages of employment. Much of the improved condition of that county was attributable, doubtless, to the education of the people • but much, and still more, was attributable to the employment afforded, which mainly contributed to the improvement elate moral habits ' if that people. With a view of administering a similar relief to the people of Ireland, and of promoting their prosperity and mo ral advancement, he would conclude by proposing, “ That an hula. ble address be presented to his Majesty, humbly praying that he would be graciously pleased to grant an advance of a sum, net coding a million, for the employment of the peasantry of Mum ster and Connaught, and for the appointment of a Commission * carry that object into effect is the best and meet serviceable manner.' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, on the motion being seconded, said that he was reedy to do potion, and pm ample credit to the benevolent and bring forward the present motion. It was true that the situation of that county, and the causes that created it, were worthy of most attentive consideration. With a de. lightful climate—with &fertile country—with superabundant capabi lities, and with a fine putdie.spirited people, yet it must be ad mitted, and the admission should be accompanied with painful ro. gret, that from the peculiar internal circumstances of Ireland, she had not arrived at that degree of prosperity to which those eapabi lities entitled her to aspire. Feeling this as **did, and feeling also that the interests of Ireland were interwoven with those of Great Britain, he felt that every motion relating to that 'sundry should be received with great favour: Happy as he should feel la con interring and co-operating in any proemial benefit to that be could not think either this plan or the mode as proposed ca trZ; Honourable Member was calculated to arrive at those bens. Scial results which Honourable Members anticipated. He was advent to eleemosynary loons; but, as be understood the Hon. Member, his proposition suggested the repaymeot of whatever money was advanced. Even on this ground be could not agree with him, and was of opinion that such grants and advisees of money should only be made when they were obliged by an over. ruling maturity, which no established principles or rules could regulate or control. (Hear, hear.) It was not from indifference. as might be supposed, to the condition of Ireland, but from the opposite reason, that he would refuse to sanction this proposed system. It was a system which might confer mennentary prosper rity, but which must terminate in ultimate disappointment. (Hear.) Such a system must hare an end, for Government could net always be supposed to supply assistance of this kind, and when et ceased the people thus supplied must'be left In the same and am greater distress than that in which they were tint found. It had then the pernicious lesson of leaning upon Government rather than do pending on their own gentian fur their livelihood and happiness. The Hon. Member had particularly directed the attention of the House to two points—first, the encouragement of the &Pericl— es:midi,. the growth of flax. The fisheries were already en. comment to a considerable extent, in the only way in which encouragement ought to be given. The Lord Lieutenant was snowed a grant (a grant he would be unwilling to see withdrawn) for the emotion of piers and the building of small heehaws, in such parts of Ireland as the fisheries were 'tk to be entonniged. This moreover gave employment to many, a nd advanced the par ticular interest to which the Hon. Member had alluded. As to the growth of flax, in those pans of Ireland where lax was not grown I corn was cultivated, and this was manifestly because the coin's. Con of corn was found to be more profitable, as the sowing, of course, was only equally expensive with the sowing of flu. He had a strong objection to the system of lending money upon a plan sin dee to the one proposed, as it would be the means of placing the Government and the landed proprietors in a state of hostility. The propriety of advancing sums of money on on lands in Ireland wag upon a tonna oocasioa discussed in mortgage ! House ; and hr was one of those at both sides of the House who I was unfavourable to the measure, and his objections to the present measure were, if possible, of a nature more essential. Into these I objections he would not enter at any length; be did not wish to press them on the House. Ile did not wish to have the appearaeos of using any thing like warmth upon the discussion. He would be sorry to sheer that, either as an individual, or in his situation as connected with the Government, he was influenced by any I feelings which might appear utiftiendlt to Ireland. He was sure neither he nor the Government could be taxed with ar y such feel. , ings. He had never interposed any objettion to any measure that might be deemed beneficial to that country. In all these measures which within the two last Sessions had been beeteght forward, and which had been partly suggested by his Majesty's Government to Parliament. every thing was assented to—every application made for the relief of Ireland was granted--evett thing which went to re move all restrictions upon her centimetre—those which were the legitimate sources of prosperity—those measures which, judgenec from the practical effects of experience, could not by any pa*. bility fail of doing good, were assented to. He much doubted if this measure would by productive of good, and therefore he could not, consistently with his sense of duty, give his support to the mem sure. It would he at the best but temporary and delusive, and the House would at the end of every two or three years )rave to begin again. They would be called on again and again. The attempt would be made over and over, and with rester importunity each year, for grants of this description ; and the result would ulti. mutely be, that the House should eithr cheek the proceeding when perhaps it was most necessary to be continued, or should look upon the plan as certain and to beaded upoa. Foe them romans he did not think it consistent with good polity to auto 6e the system lending sums of money upon so extensive a scale. He did wish, from the feelings to which he had alluded, to give the motaci a direr negairre • hut he would move th e previous question. Mr. MAIIER . IA, in explanation. said be would not confine the grant to any particular class ; he would distribute it among* all the manufacture*, and give a portion of it to the fisheries. bend LT 111 IR P was of opinion that the great evil affecting Ireland, was the want of capital. It should be the business of the government to increase capital in that country. The exception to the general rule, with regard to Ireland was, that the capital was forced out of it. The general rule to which be alluded wits, ca. pital would not go to theme quarters where it could not tiow naturally. Government should force capital into Ireland instead of acting in a manner the reverse. The state of Ireland was so Marcum as to make it an experiment of danger to remove =pital to it. Ins every absurd speculation of the present day, money was raised, capital was sent to Mexico and the most remote places : It was never sent to Ire. land. The state of that country should be altered; capital should be forced into its natural channel. He did not assent to the argument of the Right Hon. Gentleman that Ireland had no claim to the loan, because, if once granted, it should he kept up: he had no such apprehension. It did not follow that it was advisable to refuse the grant because another should be advanced in a ease of equal necessity. This necessity did not depend upon them; db : u ti e ni tig l i i t i lt od ta l n :w e s n o ta u ltotlu l t d e hu i c e i j e t to h inw a i en t ee n cou d h u °ddil e: l l2 y r p P i m tal ved to of. be ca lbe rried Uo t f o ern lr n e7an t d. mir li h e t w a as fiimi su i c n h g , that relle fill an d ht th i t io effeoniec.. toe bu securit ii - dvan4 and Sc mirk , woad C- as* borne slum nano perrt t JO dal com dia p a but s sure. wdi wiN big t aPPa iiiim - Bari *OM OMllay MCP MOO OCIO from INTO bur, so a *Pe PA Mlg Moo diri Fri ful IPel IT, Ira d 1 lan imi ___ ha/ Ina PrQ cu the hai the els bee abi ifoi wh tie fa