The British Press; or, Morning Literary Advertiser. — London, England, 1810-05-31 00:00:00

ittot NI, Pits t , I, IN It !I. 'Ent, '.(l e r l O/1 Ilin• +loch PO,Mai lei , 1,64 , 1 , a I OPP Ltght nat. 0t....,5 e 01 Mld it• uk if •rit r • rim Iht.e °old lio, II 03 e 1* 'ding Anil, int.,' ?hen 0 all From this, hopes might be entertained of the most pleasiiig nature, that this part f the the wa Empire wo uld. in future , be able to ofpy nts of her sister country. With Irvin& to the impor ts, those of raw materials, from Britain, predominated; and this afforded another coneolation, to think, that the money expended by the one to- totry, fou nd its way into the other, slid particularly fur its staple commo dity, wood. Ile had, heretofore, been speak ing o f the of f i cial valu e of merchandise ; but, when he caine to consider the real walue. and the satis factory prospect it afforded, he could -not forbear saying a few words on that sablei.t. to the flour.— At the period o f the Union, in 1800, the Experts amoun ted to 5,000,00014 in 1805, they hail risen to 0.000 .0oul.; and iu 1 80 J, to 1-2,000,0001.; or more then one-half of what they were ten years ago. In making this comparrion, he had chosen the 114111 C ram as hail bees' referred to b hie Right lion. Friewl (Mr.Prrcer A), when he brought forward t h e English Budget. In that statement , Ma Right Hon. Friend had %hewn thot the eit ports of England iu 1800 were 40 minims, and on the average of the years 1805 and te09,*45 millions. the latter being 50 F r om this it appeared. that when England *in e;eared o ne.niiith.lrelsod, in the same years, nit der all her difficulties, had auensiaited her exports much inore than cane -half. Considering that she was able to do this, although the proportion she bare to the expenses of the state was greater than, in 164 opinion. she ought to bear, he looked for mud to the most &gammons results ; and that the si n king Fund, which hid Ore My etterveded to R') great an extent, would, by a moat rapid incurs,., do away erery fear that remained on the subject of the iucreased debt. II icing stated this much on the gruerat state of the country, lie now came to WAYS AND MF.ANS /OR DUCIIIIIIICINO THU IITERIIT Or TWO LO•N. Ist.—t Tax to assimilate the reweave Of the PostMifire in Itched to that of EtsFla , s4l, by laOug lie Pettey of *Jai svaul patsgc oa every Letter—calculated to podgier dd--ls the Customs, as additioual Duty tot Vs, maul/ it to alibis 3 per cost. of the duty paid is Ragland A Doty es Raisins sod Currants, which in En;. bud last year produced a revalue of t7.l of . bat ss the Irish people were sot so find poldtsgs, be could set eapeet so much, and would only vilituate the produce at ... —Olt Stamps for Receipts to eqsalisa their to what was paid let the other parts of the Em pire, sad for Advertisements is Newspapers to be soled Ise is to Ss. These be calculated ought proilsce 4th duty w►ich kc trusted they world all grower is the ,•pedi►acy of, as it would fall touch 'epos t►itoselm: It iris of 12 gniii#ns per 120 us Spanish, sad 12 guisesa per toll ua reeseh sines, w►h.h was Is. • sallou or 3.1 ■ bottle. Alter tbs., which he esatta•tc4 to pro- duce tbe duly would still be Ei guises, less Olga in gratin. Sth —1 small is by ',gelatin the storage is lrelan.l.Tbis vonlilleilt•Solt le u7,u1“1 bat 9,01 I. lieiag deducted der rest, thee would remain 6lb notecase of so per cent. on the Win - dosTaa. !tans sow vide ons.half of whit was psi , ' in Great Dritsin, and did Not teach any moiler 7 sioduiris..lie tressed, 'beret,. e, it could nut be thought up;rressive. as, after being tail on, it 'Jul still be less tbas in Scitliud . The Interest and Siekiwo.Prewd cm the of 10100401. Staub, burrowed this yeor, Lc oefure stated, du5,7071. &Awls, 0, 60,000 10,000 30,n00 too,noo 18,40, 111,.1 ,0 1 L. J.JI,9fW 3 . 1.169 towiag• 'lupin, untouched, over ivivit wso Mllt siolieleut to satiety the otterest, of L 6,771 He coach•ted, by rn•wing w emus of resfAuttuu•, for imposnt4 these new tars. 01 the first resolution being ;mt. • Sir Jowl Nawrowe, before eu'entt': "PI) the coooderatitio of the new taxes, caked the uttentaint of the House to the circumstance. id Irelairdi nn compared with former period.. IT! thil the., in order that they might not be deliitle.l min self-de option; bat, being aware of the (Wilt:tittles that asaited thou, prepare to face them fairly, before they erre obliged to call on the people of Ireland Of England to extricate Ahem, by the Imposition of most grievous burdens. Io making this com asthma, lie objected to taking the period of the Union as a fit criterion. The country had then emerged oat of the rebellion of 1798, which had unsettled the minds amen, autl laid their trade awl commerce under great temporary disadvan tages. The fairer way was therefore to go to an *swim period of tranquillity, and he would there fore a.sume the year 1794, as one of peace, and immediately before the breaking out of the French Revolution. From the comparison with this year, he would shew what progress Ireland had actually spade, and what * atatesman might; at that period, have hero warranted in looking to for the public *'trier, In 1794, the debt of Ireland was 1,641,8401. of shit h the %mere .t, 114,0001. was all pant in the 'matey. In 1800, the debt hal risen to 23,100,0001., lairiest 1,238,0001. of n Inch 500,0001. wasp ii i out of Inland. And in 1210, January last, tin debt I. d1.000.0001 e and the interest 3,941. 00 31 out W which neatly 4,500, , 100!. w as pail in Great ill inn, lit 1800, the iiii-oete was . 2.76 1 . 6,101 . ul 1vr5.4,417,0001. and in 1810, 4. - 280,0001. Thus t:..!e was on propottion betwe co the increase of Wit and revenue. The deficiency of the latter lie to a ;treat measure to the immense sums expended in the mana4einent of public y. In ,'•7llral, the move the revenue increaNe.b, the pen '•n .inn of the alittrAes of wawa eeinent was less ; but in Ireldiol, the n yt rap wits the case, awl tie veater the ri %entre I,ecantp , the more io In "1" 1 " "II were the charges augnatuted. They wt. - sr now liar to two of what 11 1 . y were in Piot). 'lli,. , l'iihtsses. an the various years would still more tl :uitiate th e state of the coisittry. In 1809. the was 1,500.0001. in 1807, 7 6 . 5 . 0011 in "°°. 1 . ' l 7OlOl. aod in 1810, only 3 . 1 8,00 0 1. ; 0. " 1, 4 u" lit way, reels if the taxes were as pro:lir - Awe as t' lii{ht Ilua. Gentleman *opposed, but of which ''as very doubtful, as !, 011 W of them, particularly on wine, had been tr;cil and failed iii 180.5, ~ • 11 a decreased revenue, tiny 'o°lll4 shortly (lame crisis, with olaserring upon whir h lie had aa srli st he had to offer tin this ore anion. Willi • to export% he also olile , 7ted to the year i• 4 criterio n , :win dolt year,franti the depre-sion Iv:. ,'I ia.acril, they were one million less than !. IZI-2. they Wile 5, H 1 7. 0 001. 611800 odds; and in 1810 nut more tams aliove what they were in 17i12s Thirl slaiaLo mitt• rs, lie "wild • ut..n lido no kinnputa lion of ideal values put on by the Inspector-G:tne nil. When in office, he had frequently field different opinions front him. and fouled that his judgmea - . 1 was not invariably to be token as a standard. As for taking the Dublin Exports as the criterion, that was us absurd as it would be to take the London pike of corn as the general stand ad for the exportation of that article throughout the country. Ile begged ,tot to be misunderstood on this topic : he considered Ireland as productive, biomel the most smiguitie hopes that could he funned. lie considered her to he tepidly mere-n*l'lo hi internal cultivation, in trade. iii enterprise. asset in commerce; insamucle that he looked to her, in futurity, as ministering to the want* of this couutry, hum the abundance of her produce. lie had recommended the mea sure of permitting the coasting tiade, in corn, be tween the two countries ; and experience had proved that it was founded in wisdom ; for, last year, the export of Ireland, independent of other grant, wea, in oats alone, 782,000 quarters, or tier times the amount of what it was iu the year previous to reinaving the bar, MIS. Ile trusted this would induce tOe House to throw clowis the remaining impedinseuts, and make the ports of the two countries as one grand depot. of every species of merchandise, fur the United Empire.— If so, 7-10ths of this country's whole drniund in grain, so far from beiug to seek in foreign porta. might be expected from Ireland. Beside. this its crease, he had the satisfaction to noece a corre sponding increase in bacon and pork. lie would now proceed to the rousideratiou of the new taxes, but first begged to put the House on its guard 'aguinst any espectatiun of increase in the revenue to pro vide for lief interest of the loan, after the disap pointment they had suffered last year. The Right Honourable Gentleman had then calculated, that the prohibition of the ost of raw malt in the dis tilleries, would produce 2.04,0001. He had ex pressed his suprise at this extrwtagant calculation, and the event proved be was right, for the measure produced only 50,0001. It was somewhinsinsilarwith the apirit duties, which were to produeeN,oool. but did not raise one shilling. It was from these failures that they were tole compelled to provide for two years instead-of one. The Right lion. Gentlemen took the revenue at 5,000,0001.: he was at a loss to know on what data he proceeded, as at no time previous to last year had it ever amounted to so much ; and last year, as lie had already stated, the new measures entirely failed. It could not be founded on au expected increase of the distilleries, as whatever was gained mater that description, would becounter-balanced by a loss in the Citations, . 1 on the importation of foreiga ',pints. The that of the new taxes enumerated was the addition ou the postage of letters. lit 1805 the Right lion. Grin. had tried this, in spite of all his endeavours to shew him, that, in finance, it was not always that 2 and 2 unite 4. It was true, the revenue of the Post- Office had s i nce increased ; hut, lie contended, it was iird in consequence of the addition then laid on (on tits' cootiary, it would have been snore, had only one-hut f been imposed). but from ether gene. nil causes. 'Hie Right Hon. Grath MOD Cuss ton taken in thiakieg, heeause a tax produced in comitry, it would also be productive in Ire land. A sICII couistry alight support that which, in a poorer country. would cause a decrease: and this, lie believed, would he the fate of this tax; • *tech, by d 111 l inishing the correspondence in Ire would lower the revenue from what it now wa., rather than augnieut it. With respect to the Of item, the eilditimiel duty on tea; he was equally surprised at that. Wny would the Right 1 Hod. Gentleman cause this period to lay another impost on the main pillar of the Customs ? It had d-creased 60,000 i. in 500,000% last year, and yet ties was the time chosen to add &mother burden to a ' falling duty, in order to render it mote productive. As for the raisins and currants, they were not worth adverting to. It was well known that those articles only would be productive- to taxation which were the consumption of the people. Now, it was ac kisowledged and known, that these articles formed uo tauten:ll part of the consumption of the Irish tuition. They we-e hot so" food of puddings, &o. as the people of this cumitry ; and even those who could afford it, seldom had them used in dishes for their tables. With respect to the additional dusty on receipt stamps, he thought it the most injudiciona tax that could be devitied. Already this tax was so much eluded, that it did not produce I-10th of what it ought to produce. IVhy then augment it. and give another in ducement for defrauding the revenue ? The rise on the newspaper advertisement duty. too, in his opinion, would defeat its own object ; for even at the present duty, 2-3ile of the business of the country was done by the eirrulatiou of haul - lilts ; a prac tice *itch would, sit cooseque.,i,e of th:s new imposition, be the more gee , He was V) conduced rf this, that he o al-I c ledge himself; that, with the new dote, ti.e ire , i:•1-• would be Ices than it was at t;t mu meat. f f' now came to the wioe duty ; and really out I lc ve thought that the exoe, ic:irs of te.94 3 ive taught the Right Ilo,:.(;,,,aleaveili to aue:n.ii lr •.1 that tax. At that period liv 11.1i1 neen, it-i d•freallty, dis suaded from laying on 3 linty f'S the extent he in tended, on the st dement of a very liitelligent mer chant, a Member of the !louse, wire declared that he would thereby Iteirrior.kte the revenue. To a reitaiii ele4ree lie hail yielded to these represents• lion., and laid on only tote-half of what he lint proposed. The consequence was an astonishing decrease of revenue ; anal it was three years be-fare it amounted to the point from whence it set out ; and again it had diminished. In 1400 the duty on port amounted to 277,4701. and su 1810 to 196,7001. being a decrease of 110,0001. In French wines there was an increase of about 30001.; and also, in Spanish wine, of .50,0001. On the whole, the de crea-e wits 10,0001. With this before his eyes, how could the Right lion. Geutleman calculate on his new duty producing 100,0001. or rather more than one-fourth of the present produce ? %VA respect to the storage duty. it was Not worth attention, and he vemlel only say, unless better regulations were adopted in that matt r, it would only turn out a burden upon trade, without benefiting the revenue. The Nat of these taxes was that of so per cent addition on windows. Ti,ii 'night prod t tee wh a t was expected, 'or tar, or three years ; but it would be a liesory hurtle.% on persons livi,ig in towns, and small shopkeepers. with [tenses liatenz inure times seven wlsidu IS. lie was _>irous that all levee lad on might ha pritaivtive; but it surely could not be the wish of Parliament to lessen s tlie Cosu forts that the lower orders enjoyed. What he had said on these points were mere suggrabous. He did nut mean to urge any Captious injections to the taxes proposed by the Right Honourable Gentle. man, but to put the actual state of the case before the House, and not allow them to be buoyed up with titl-e expectation% The Night lion. Geol., in addition to this, had stated, as our of his C 011.141. latmos, that there was uo Boating debt in Ireland. This was true, nor would the circumstances of the country admit of such a thing. Having stated this much, lie begged portion for • few inotneuts longer, while lie pointed out what might have been and what might be made available for public pur poses. before new bur dens were laid on the people. The renewal of the Batik Charter might have been granted at a rate which would have produced a iund for the service of the country; but, instead of that, it was given away almost gratis, for tke loan of one nullion, at as high a rate of interest u it wou!tl have beta lent to individuals, and for small alteraion in the maaagement.—A stim greater than at present might be received cat of the ditties en raw iron imported from this country. The 10 per cent. custom duty was calculated to produce 53,0001. but, instead of that. by some iniz inatiagement, it produced only 17,04101. He called ou the Right Pion. fientlernan to turn his atieuhon to this subject. The only other eircumetince of this kind he would now. notice, was the great bs. Inners rellialtling doe flout dead and dymils ed col lectors. The amount was 11141111t11Se ; %WI ; from knowing that many of the sums Wight easily be re covered, and applied to the public ow, before new taxes were devised, he could only impute their long out.-tauding to the remissive•s of the eget:t4 aid soh citors employed. In mentioning these balances. he hogged to be understood as meaning nothing invi dious to any individual. In the 161 he found Time Fin of (lancet fur Galway Mr.Sbaw of Cur kosith Mr. Luke White fur his seeurit y The late Mr Lysuelmt, who died iii 17990,01.0 M children, and tearing( ameat personal ymuperty, Lord Lisle his servility and Execntur o,soo Mr. Connor, C o rk 19,000 Mr. Connor, he understood, Lad been brought back from Scotland, (after carrying oil 70,0001. besides the shove,) and imprisoned, but since set at large. Why was this? Was it that be was as noted for In. loyalty, as his two other brothers were in another line? Mr. Wooer, of Wielbsseisegli.... Mr. Augustine Fitagerald, with Lurd Longue vine fur his security_ 7,411 U 111,000 Mr. 'barium, ail' Ennio l,loo Mao) 4.1 they& he was sure might be very readily got; land though there were minty others which iu a list lie hail seen of the Solicitor's were termed desperate, in contradistinction to those he pronounced to be operate, hut from which nothing but hopes had yet arisen, be believed the Solicitors took no steps but to keep the suits alive, and take the expenses out of the public purse. ilr. Welsh, of Nan, wn another ; but the Crown had a lien on an estate he wish. d to s-11. And he (Sir J. N.) trusted they wools.' not enable the titles to be made out, tilt the balance was discharged. Ile again guarded himself aviiist meaning any Ching invidious. He had only done his duty is pointing out what might be reco vered fur the public use, before direct taxes were resorted to. Also to direct their attention to the enormous expense of managemeut iu the puhl.c money, and to a vigilant check upon Collectors of pubic money, to prevent em bezzlement, or making away with the money in their hands. He was aware the Right Ilenourable Gentlest - ins Ind to struggle with the delays of law ; but there were excuser made fn• the solicitors arid agent., which ought not to be uclimtted. 'l•he growing debt, in proportion to the revenue, filled him vials apprehens.on ; and, he feared, if not timely looked to, it would come to au alarming height hereafter, ax.d be inure difficult to overcome. The quota charged on Ireland, by the Uniais, was too much. It might be 'Mil. the bargain was made, and they must abide by it. This was true : but a hew,' bargain iirght have been made; and, if it was * bad one, the loss, in the end, would tall on those who imposed it. The Right Honourable Gentleman concluded w i th warm recommenda tion -of residence, in the coantry, to the Gentry of Ireland, as the sorest means of promoting her pro sperity and happiness. Mr. R. SHAW explained the reason of the ba lacce standing against hlr.Slinw. The ve►y day of his death lie (Mr. R. Shea) had remitted all the ba lance due, and thought every thing settled. A con enterable tissue afterwards, however, a demand for old surcharges mill other outstanding sums was made on Mr. ;haw's widow. Sonic correspondence took and all they required was an account, to he submitted to the Pro-collector; and they were re .dy to pay whatever was due the moment it was ascer _ _ Mr. W. Pot.% had ingnired into the balances of Mr. Moore mud Mr. Connor. The former was in tilt course of being settled, as soon as the actual account could be ■rcertained. In the latter, tl:e Law Officers of the Crown were proceeding in the regular way for it. recovery. Sir J. Nca roar t xplainerl. Ile repeated that he meant nothing invidious or disrespectful to any individual, and was aware that many errors had Crel t into these accounts. _ 111 r. Fustaa, in rribl), stated, that the Rt. lion. Barron t was much mistaken in many cases re spectincr the Collector's Balances. The tird was that of Mr. French, which was tried by a jury, which "truck off 9,0001. and if that of Mr. Shaw was tried, it would probably end in the same way. Many of the (brow., upon the present Collectors had been Landed down through three or four ge nerations, and means were now taken to remove those fictitious balances. Last year leave was given to bring in a Bill enabling the Commis sioners of Inquiry to take each ;objects into their considerat ; so that hereafter they would be provided against. Up to the 14th of WI the balance of cash in the hattls of the Collectors of Customs in Ireland, was 17,0001.; in ten days after the statement was made, 11,0001. had been remitted ; so that there remained at pre. .rat <hay 6,0001. 1110 that, by s!r4:l,e coincidence, w.is in the hands of the Colley iLe s.f ‘Vaterford. A. to the money charged upon Mr. Centior, it con. sided chiefly of fictitious balances; that against 1 Mr. C!IICHY of suit hay% Ile 21'. Foster) adopted in his estimates the some years which hie Right lino Friend (Mr. Pereevel) IDA takes wriest regard to Fontlead. The Duey epos Malt is the course of last year was 46,0001. which wee all paw_ deiced by the brewers.* sto stills had worked.-.- The Right lion. Bernina had said, that sowesel Duties bad not ben, prodociive; smengarhich he enumerated the Duty on Spirits. h was tree that bail not produced ; but the reason had hems tisat doitillitiou was prevented by Act of Parliammot. He had objected to the Post.olfice .Revenue, be cause it had not overland the first year in which he (Mr. Poster) proposed au increase, hut it hod pro. duced every year since, which was a andlintent groused for resorting to it *gale. The objectivists the Duty upon Pun Wine was, that the use nt.thet article had dee reseed. in consequence of the Pre. seat weight of duty ; but this decrees. else owl, Iss appearae,ce. The Spanish wine was included with the Poet form , sly. until the exclusive duty made it ceci miry to divide them nudes sepa rate buds, so that in reality there was an des r a-e in the mower lots of. Port Wits,, though. upon Int viee. it right appose that ibe:e WA& The Biome Doty had been as. ticed as a letird.bep; but oh. • t ley reflected ea the I.,re.t banal ell i:h the tws4iluat derived from the ',atria of t .Ong. they lo 0 4 not mgrse in spch an opinion. Tb ta,ea, 'shish he proposed. were those which as p Arra to his jn.lgement beet mks- I.ted to prom. t• tl e ohje, t i view ; and if the Hight Hose. lia.t. c. old sui:ges. any that w. should I me no Alec i..n to adopt them. Sir JOHN Ntwronr espietned. Mr. HanttiG wished that a vim tax ahn,dej brkj I on lr.laud, in con,equence of the great. Iturdon imposed opcia this country in proyiding for site discharge of hi r debt. There woe uo good %di t... 0 spare lietwero the two countries. He comoode4 strongly fur the policy of borrowi-ig in In la 4. no ther than have her a debtor to this conutry ; and thought that the terms upon which the ioao woo offered last year were fair. • . •• Mr. FOSTER SA& that the We at which the Loan was offered in Ireland was eight or ;limo pee Cent. leas C t rs that which he bad obtained besee... If they proceeded to tax Ireland so far as to intro. fere with her industry. then indeed the gook) be come a henry load upon this country ; bath get. Mg two:. livr credit. she might. in time, be hear her part iu coati ilattiaig to the general roper dilute. After a few words front Mr. Hoetect. Mr. Fl/. Tea. end Sot Joey Nswrear, the Resolutions were agreed to. sod the Report ordered I. Wee. crivrtl te.rliorrow. Mr. BANK'S postposed the Report of the Poblie Expenditure BM till to-maorro*. DROITS OP ADMIRALTY. Mr. Timmer rolled the attention of the deuce to the Annuity rioted to his Serene Highness the Duke of Brunswick. He had a paper now in hls hand, containing the amount of the Ornita of Ad miralty, which he regretted was not sufficiently . the possesaiou of Members. From this it appeared. that 342,0001, remained yet at the disposal of Hip Majesty. He thought that he and the House would have been saved the trouble et this discussion by His Majesty's Ministers, especially after the smell majority that supported them. when hr hod brought the question under the cousideratton of the Honer Wore. He had every respect for the Duke of Brunswick, and approved as much as any emu of the propriety of making a provisioa for him; hut the only question was, whether the Crown had not the means or msk,u 4 such provision. without tit!- ding to the burdens of the public 1 1 The Cis il List butt increased in the last six years; and Coo aim four and half per cents. which rendered it the name surprisiug that Ministers should have advised the prevent demand; and he could not imagine any say in will, h it would be so gratifying to His Ma jesty's feelings to ai.piy the Droits of Admiralty. His Majesty had already appropriated that fund to providing for the Duke of Cumberland. and others of the Royal Family. ‘Vhat I.? (Mr. Tierney) wanted, ens to have a certain sum, about 70,0001. paid out of the prints of Admiralty into the Con solidated Fund, to m ike good the annuity to his Serene Ilightisss. Ai he was not aware of any objection, he should content Ininself with tooting for an address to His Majesty. representing, that in compliance with His Majesty's Message, his faithful Commons had granted 70001. a year onto,' the Consolidated Fund to his Serene Highness the Duke of Brunswick ; that finding there woe up. wards of 34g,0001. remaining of the Droits of Ad miralty, they were surprised that Ministers should advise an addition to the burdens of the ramie. And, in couscquence of the pressure ender Wadi they at present laboured. praying that he would direct lobe paid into the Consolidated Fund. sou* adequate to the discharge of the annuity. The CHARCIA.LOR of the Rialto= thought. that if the House was to he of opinion that it use necessary to address Ilia Majesty for any assistance from the Dream of Admiralty to the Consolidated Fund, it would be better to apply without any re ference to the grant to the Duke of Brunswick, Ile was persuaded that the House would see the propriety of rejecting a motion which, though couched in Parliamentary language. animated I i• reproach, at a time when there was au account Ind before them. which mast *hew that no applieetioa was made of the fund, of which they culla disap prove. The Right Hon. Gentleman had said, that Ministers ought to have spared the House that question, and taken a hint from the vote of a forma night. At the time that that vote was come to, there was no account before the House, es there We, now ; and certain ansimmuions hod produced their effect upon the decision. They could now see how the 7.000.0001. was applied. and would ants under different imprersions. In the years )796 and 1797. 000.0001. had been printed ; and in Mr. Pitt's last administration. 1,000.0001. lathe eisnrse of loot year 3 38.3211. vas paid to the Danish Cum. mi..ioners; 110.0001. was also paid. and 40,0001• into the four and half per cents. Them were whew sums. which made the entire stowent of the poy. mews 6.108,0001. If Gentlemen entertained the (Tinton thin .t would be possible to draw nay solo. once upon such occa.ions from the civil list. he was sorry to say that they were mistaken ; for the pen. vision of the civil list was by no mons 'goal to he charge. In proof of this asserting. he instanced a grim of 190,000 1 , by the last Administration. en t of th- Drints of Admiralty ; and also of 30,0t111. , 1 - •4 1 , 4