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from ♦ to Gee, at bon; and, as it might be la every succeed log too, from b to MI., from it to woo, from to to tam., at the higher another of s, 10, Or 10. IVhest the increase of men, from mernitoug, and other cause% von lake,, into con. sideration, Gealleonca must be coavinced, thin, its thin, the line was drawn :.s C . ..Sely as Cu • icut for the service. Anutlier alteration bad been made, in consequence of the suggestions of the Commissioners of Military Innyniry, and forage for borne, Rll.l turaml and meat for the men, instead of bring inelieled ender tho tinsel head, were now transferred to the Commissariat. A third point of alterationwas, the reduc tion red agency fur cavalry, which was reduced t-tth, making she emolumeut to the agent still adequate to hiarrouble, and nearer that received by agents for infautry. The last alters tiois he had to notice, ender this heel, was one of cousioltes ble magnitude; it was, the disonutiuting a twenty men in every troop of horse. Of these, test had been disoriented tan year, after Ilk estimates had poised, awl ten inure were now added. Every regiment of cavalry consisted of ten troops of eighty nava, makiug eight losadreol men. When ordered oe foreign service, six troops were sent, leaving two at hum,• for the purpose of recruiting Did it was not ewes eery for these to have horses, mid, therefore, by the present arraolcusent, the regiments would be folly as efficient for forriga service, while inoi,ooul. per arm. would be saved of the public money. to the hou.nehold troops, it appeared, t here was snaring ur fort roue anaemia two hundred and forty nose pounds. In the Dragoon Guards and Dragoons, in which there was M increase of atiti Met), from the valises before mentioned, and the substitution of Syrjeant •Majors instead of Quarter-masters of troops, would be found a decreer* of expense to the amount of wit, t3oid la so additional bat talion to the regiment, and outlier addition, there was an Mere:tied espouse of 711,ruul.shile, under the head of Un nambered Battalions, a saris& took place of 49,7t.5t This arose partly fmm the reduction d two garrisou hattalitous, from which alone .10,3171. wan saved. The mat head in the Estimates was the (Loyal %Viggoin Train. In thus, too, a very considerabty volnrtion had taken place: coo of the 1 troops, of ahich it was origioudly Curate I, E re had beets discontinued. Thin was dune, hecemse it was &and that this species of force, though very useful on foreign -.deice, if kept up to so gnat ass extent, would cost more than, spine a tvueralview,sadconsistent with economy, could be thought a fair price fur their services---(Heer!)—By this reduction a saving was effected of 513,4331. The next heed was that of barrack Artificers, which had been embodied to complete the works and furilications about Gibraltar. That purpoee • being (Meted, they would be found no loner a part of the annual expenditure. The following head was that of the Manx reacibles, who had been reduced from ten companies to four. lu these two iteesse the decrease of exposer was ts, 1371. namely i3,stitl. fur the one and 4,4731. for the other. lu the succeering head ma increase of 47.7 0 7 1 - appeared, of Which eo,ooul. wan for Field-Officer,. This leas not a mew tierce as it load heretofore bete provided under another head, but ' was now first stated, on the face of the Estimate, im eemplimice with the suggestion of the Cuinntiasioa lee of Military Inquiry, that, wherever it was possible, every article of expels.. slimild be stated in a separate and distinct clam. The next head was that of Miscel laneous Services, in which there was aa iecreasse of charge to the &mogul of 'road. This large sus was twin to the payments made to °Akers few losses on service in Spain, and in South America; bet it was iu coutempla tion to din:msh such charge. in future and insteadof these allowances, to afford to regiments at home a regular Sion, to put thew ou au equality with the nary, is hatift their wine duty free. This w o uld amount to to us 11,0601. per annum. Open a whole view of ibis branch, then, it ap peared that it was increased by in men, while in exposes it had decreased 98,421. The second breech applied to the regiments iu the East Indies, hut these being paid by the Company, were truly mentioned for the purpose of being brought under the cognizance of the House, and not to en ter tutu calculatiiins of their expense. The roil) sum cliiirg• ed was 3494. and paid by the comitry, fur an additional re (retain., company for two battalions sent to ll:dia. The fourth branch related to the embodied Militia, to which S4l MN', had been added, sod the expense lessened t 50,71161. 'ibis arose fruin melting large deductions for non effective.. The seat head was the Staff, &r. in which there was an in- crease of s t0:471. arising, not foirs an increase of the Staff, bid from the additions accessary fur the Medical Department. They them came to the Chaplains of the Army, who were in tended to be placed un a better footing than formerly, nut with respect to lei', hot to their half-pay which, at the end of eight year'a service, was to be et ' pdtrel, and bd. per day for every additiosal year till it amouided to fir. They were slam, to give testimonies of good character, before they were admitted to the service, seek as should meet the appro. 'satins of the Archbishops of Cautir bury and York, sod the Bishop of London. Coder the bead of Superameteraries, there was • saving of •CCAllielle4 by deaths or maw rah; of persons coming under that description. Under that of Public Departments, the saving was 21,137 pseuds using to the Secretary of the 'Commander-in•Chiei, (Cul Turrens) having a moallar salary than his predecease,, and also a saving of 11,1691. in the Pay-office. In the War. Office, frogs acraagemeuts that had heirs made, in separat ing the Office Mr the examination of Accounts from that fur Ci7rrespiiiidewee, moil the nerissary addition of 24 clerks to carry on the immense hosiers of that department, the im crease of es penm was a,a631. In doing this, wherever it was possible to abolish IMO MAC!, it had been dour ; and thus she Office of Evarnioer of Army Ailments was discontinued. And, by Mr. Merry's surereiling Mr. Moore, and giving op olunterily the post of Purveyor of Coals fur Gihrakar, 4S 1/ l. per annum was in;nordiately, and 0001. ultimately, sa ved..— Under the head of llixtrsordioartes, 8771. was expended far the Depot of military kern/Sedge in the putties* of ...pa, 6,0it1. was added by the substitution of a new Army. Aludkal Board, more diciest thou the tut. On the half- - pay there was an addition of Sind. On the head of Chelan! Hospital, a decrease of 3mt7. On that of Out•pensiourrs, ti decreased charge of a i„:901. But there would lose been an increase.( ta,oool. had it not been for the appropriation of 11141,0001. unclaimed prire.money to this head of service. Under the bead of Widow: Peonies's, the iortemed ex. penes was Ilti4 11. Volunteer corps, a decrease of In the Local Militia there were 23 additional corps, hut the reduction of expense was 376,1 SM. sod hereafter it would be still more. It was however bat fair to say, that this was iu part owing to the sum of 417,0061 not being voted this year fur clothing. The rent +antrum the number of days trattoria for the privates being reduced to dd. Under the heeded' Fo reign Corp., there was an addition of 975 men, and of ex• pense 34,770 t from the tektog into British pas the corps of the Duke of Krone. iek. The nest head, the Boysl Militias College the increase of expense was 40,9721. of whicii 40,00tre was for the erection of a new College at Marlow. The cape's* of the kola! Military Asylum was also in creased .5471. from the addition of 136 children. The head relieved Chaplains and Clergymen was diminished 71 JII and fit hospital expchses 971 woe unit On the Compas.iuseatt List the increase wu t , 4ail ; on the Barracks, iu Irelsed, 30441., cud the Commissariat is the same country a decrease of e 6,0001. From all these it appeared that the WA Merest was 149,75 el The deductions were 8,01501. nod the gi UPS Miring 736,9921. Between the two years the balance is favour of the ritual W 32 an increase of toi.t7 airs, and a litrfrate of 9.7..2,0•921. eif upenelisiere. The Nubile Secretary combo'. eel these statements, wit b a very animated eulogy es our mi litary forte, which was OS efficient in discipline, se in num bers ; and ibis, nut only in the regular army, bet ie the militia, voluotrers, end other deserlitios Or fungi. WC had frini,oini men is arms, haglifiell a nary of 20iymo. The mas culine energies of the nation mere *ever more compiillollll, and the country never stood in so proud mid glorioiss a situ. alio, as at present. After • conflict for fifteen years, against an enemy, whose power had been increasing, we were still able to maintain the war with augmenting facts, end a po pulation, by the pressure of external circumstances, roams iodated iatu an impregnable military mass. Our physical mreagth had risen, es it was called for, and if roe dud out present the opposition of numerous fortresses to an invade% aa the Cositiocat did, we presented the more insuperable barrier, of • high-spirited, patriotic, and enthusiastic peo- St, who were nut to be vanquished, or broken through. General GASCOYN • called the smut . of the blouse to the ease of sinkers in the misty, who, from the rant of Cap fait and upwards, had really tess pay now than they had in the year tgiut. This he proved from a S. in the Hortense Lamy of that date; and after citing many ether grievances trader whieh this etas of men antlered, he earnestly meows encoded them to the considerat of the 'loose. With re spect to the allowance Ire •Ilot, he calesslated that the In OT `se Noble Secretary, 'meld not amount Irs,oool. amestiosed to mole thee pal. per annum, to an officer, a boon not worth acceptance. Lord G. L. Gowen, while he was satisfied with some of the economical statemetits made by the Noble Secretary, wag yet di.appoiated that noire hail not bee• done. He approved ' of disunnuetiag the twenty mew in troops uf cavalry, but ceosiired t►e system of purchasing horses uf two yt ars old fur the army. He also thought the Waggon Train might have been dues away altogether, and that the mine step might have heed taken with the AI4IIX Feiteibles. With regard to the Staff too, much might lie effected is the way °firm tttttt y. In the Home District, beside, the CUllll9 , llklel* ii Cbo4, A li• Quarter• Master, anti Hareack•ManterGeurral, there were two Generals, far whom he saw no use—he alluded In the Duke of Condign* and Lord Heathheld, whose pay each was from it to ata.J. per &IMAM. Au Hon Mesnlii r of that House, (General Tarletou,) had &command in ti.• South District, over 2,400 sten, mostly militia, u t.... e ih, i s ' was also • Major-Geiseral. Is Scotland there were 11,1.• men, and 11 Gruerials, all which he COliAltlVlell as a waste of money. The Cu • Dr ci:LLOR of the MCORP - AOC/I replied to the ton• last speakers. It was mach store easy to retrench its the..: y. than is practice. Willi respect to the purchme of hos, e• of two years old, • difference of opinion existed, some liwld iug that it woo the cheapest, others the dearest made. As fie the Waggon Corps, they had Alum away five uf the totter companies ; five of die remainder were an Portugal, mill, ac cording to the Cuinivander. in-Chief there, of the utmost service to the army, and two troops recruited fur them ■t home. They could not therefore be done away with at once. The Manx rencibics had been reduced front 80010 530, a- I there were retained because the Consmasiler.in-Chief informed the Adiainistratitto that if they were disbanded, their place must he filled by regular.. (hi the Staff there was nu inereme, bat what arose from the increase of sank grouted oft the mutation of the Jubilee. He considered the question about the Duke of Cambridge and Lard Reedit - odd, se one refortunately asked, to which no amasser could he given ; and as for the Hist General (Tarletutil hi■ hems in place was at least • proof that there wan no job or view to l'ailiainentire service iu his employment. The Right !low Gradient's then replied to Geucnd Gaseuyise, ant stated, that the arrests of army clothing were in feture to lie paid up. That the income Tax would not he levied on bat and forage money, mid that the rim allowance w.wild be made to regiments at home to the amount of t!.iol. to gtul. for every hattaliou per amain. While economy was urged on the our hand, and increase of pay oa the oilier, Ministers hail to steer bets me, sad give every attention to the wl• diem' claims, whale they regarded the espeurliture of the pub lic motley Lord G. L. GoveLa in etplanatioa said, be meant no dis respect to the Duke of Cambridge and Lord Ilemblield, has observations applied to the Staff, not to the °Ricers. General Taat.arow rebutted the insinuation with teepee( to himself; stated hie services, and said, that lie considered a home mammal se being as bad as banishment to Siberia. Mr. HIJOSisSON humored differing its some respects from his Right Ilan. Friend, with whom he had forinerly the honour of being iu other, and whose theory, upon the pro sent occasion, he could not approve of. Cuosiderable ecie ninny was accessary at the present moment, and it was iu the dindoution mil retrenchment of their establishments they should seek to effect it. lie did not mean to joie in the out.door cry, but atilt he would ►ay that fl 00010% was necessary to our preservation. He sent into a compilation upon the state of the tames ; and contended, that, since the year 1793, they were increased nine fold. Many of the taxes, he feared, were so high as tin y could be carried; be instanced the taxes upon tea and stamps. The greater the taxatioo, the greater should be the ban; aad the greater the luau, the greater should be the taxation : thus the two evils were calculated to aggravate each other. Of all the dif- Scabies and danger, to who h this country was exposed, the one must to be dreaded was the failure of the *minces ; and it would become the House to take into consideration the circa mi- Mabee of the present war being levelled so much against them. Tate wisdom consisted in seeing the dmiger, and avoiding it. Ia the year 11.04, when the cuemy turned all his efforts to the investors of This calamity, great preparations were neces sary to meet them ; but it was not neces.ary that all the great heads of eNpesise should continue to ices case, from year to year, as was the case Mace that period. He neat into other minute calculations upon the purchase of bones for the ca. *airy, lice. He estimated all our regular farce, including the Davy, at five handled thousand men. Much expenditure had crept insensibly in, but it was in consequence of the pre• sent system, and the want of a superinteadiug controul The t'asalry, the S:aff, the Waggon Titling, might be diminish ed. It might be aarrilied to some political or selfish pus-- pour that lie had spoken dots, but such were the opinion* be hail alum, a maintained, und always avowed. Mr. t. Rose sant, that winch reduction had taken place in the aliffeicist departments to wltcb his Right lion Friend had alluded. He approved of a superiistenilsitg power, for it wss•rigbt that there should be only on. baud in the public purse.—(A loath ) Mr. Rimer. maintained, also, that great retrruclimeut had taken place, and declared, that it was his imenti 4444 to bonne to a bill for the purpo• of effecting a further reduction in the expense of the Local Militia. Mr. PETER. Mooar. was of opinion, that the speech of tbe Right Honourable Secretary (Ryder) was a mint dangerous one, sad that suc► srguiaents should nut be held out to the public. Earl Tx was surprised that the inefficiency of the Medical Board had not been before &mud out, and be did sot know a security the House had, but that those subse quently appointed 'night not he is the same state. Mr. Peace, AL, to explauation, said, the roily security that enuld be given was, that if the persons appointed wino proved incapable, they should be dismissed ; but he did not conceive that any thing is the Expedition to the Scheldt was the cause uf the chimer. Cul. WaapLl, mete a loag speech, which comprehended argusieuts to prove that there was a Waale of public money to the military system of thin coustry, w►ich might be rosily obviated. He was rejoiced to find that t►e Hight Hon. Gent le- S . an (Mr. Pererval) acknowledged that it wai not the late Expedition which caused the change in the Medical Board; fur it plowed that his suneatiosis were of some effect. He ennui point out objects innumerable, where expense, and us necessary expense, ►ad followed their a►my contracts; is one instance where soldiers' great coat* cost only os., es. fid. was added fee their being water proof, which he would en gage to the House might be dom. fur MI. per coat. Ifter some hum Mr. Hutkiesbo, Mr. Powell, Lord Mahon, sod Lord Pohuerstua, the rentataisg ports of the estimate+ were agreed to. F.art Ter rt.r gave notice, that he would, on Thenday, is fur the establishosest of the sew Medical Board. The War Tsass.wetw voted. TM Home adjoursed at SALT VAST TWO. EXPEDITION TO THE SCHELDT. HOUSE OF COMMONS. .... -.■.. 11. M I N ['TES of EVIDENCEtaken before the COMMITTEE or She WHOLE ROUSE, appointed to eueeitler of the pohry and CIMINO of the late EXPEDITION to the SCSI ELDT. The Eight Hue. Sir J. ANSTEUTHER, Bart. is the Chair ILiest -Gen. the Rigid Rua. the Earl of C called la. reeareirsed by tke Cossaiitue. At what time was it first proposed to your Lord ship to take the command of the army destined for the Scheldt do not recollect the exact time ; I believe to the beginning of June. By whom was that proposition first made to you► Lordship?—By the Secretary of Mate for the War Department. Will your Lordship st ate what plan was given to your Lordship at that (tune, or sins sug._e.ted, te'a timetto the operations intruded to he riprii,ted to yont Lordship's ?—There was no parti cular plan f•tatrd in nit. It is stated ins our Lordship's Narrative, that • change hal taken place iu the original plan. in consequence of the military opinions ; will your Lordship state what was the original plan ?—The orginal plan alluded to will be shewa to the House by reecho. , the opinion of Sir David pandas and the other General Officers, which was taken upon that plan; that was, the idea of landing at O,tehd, and proceeding from thence to Aiitvirtitp. Had that plan met with your Lordship's appro. Lotion ?—lt was not particularly submitted for my approbation. Before your Lordship sailed, will yourtoraship have the goodness to state what was the !den of operations you intended to be adopted ?—.ll con ceive that the plan intended to be adopted is de scribed very much in the instructions; certainly I had many communications upon the euhject with His Majesty's Mimsters ' as to the details. The plan seems to be described in the instructions. Will your Lordship have the gootitie.s to state what was the result of the communications which you had upon the subject of the detail of operations with Hi 4 Majesty's Ministers ? [The Chairman informed the Earl of Chatham, that it Um nut necessary for his Lordship to answer any question which he might be of opinion might trod to inculpate or criminate himself either as one of His Majesty's confidential advisers, or as Cussussuder-imChief of the late Expedition to the ScheWt.) Will your Lordship have the goodness to state what was the result of the communications which you had upon the subject of the detail of operations with His Majesty's Ministers ?—I really do sot toile understand thatquestion. . . What were the verinil instructions coder which your Lordship acted ?-1I did nut act under soy verbal instructions ; there were many explanatory of the other instructions of the geurril plan; the communications I had with the Set 'Thiry of State were on the subject of carrying lulu effect the object of the instructions. 11. id your Lordship any written instructions as to the mode in which the objects of the Expedition were proposed to be accomplished ?-1 had no other instructions than those which are before the House; of course 1 mean the instructions to myself mailer the Sign-Manual, and those to the Admiral, which wore also communicated to me. Will your Lordship have the goodness to state what was the substance of the verbal explanations, by winch you understood how you were to carry your own instructions into effect ?—I do not very well know how to answer that; they were rather comments, probably, on the instructions and con versations upon the manner of carrying them into effect. • The instructions under the sign-manual appear merely to state what were the objects of the Expe dition; I wish to know by what plan it was expected those objects were to be attained ; can your Lord ship stale the substance of any instructions, written . or verbal, by which you were put iu possession of the intentions of His 'Majesty's Ministers upon that subject?—l think the naval instructions, in a great • measure, put sue into possession of the general plan. 11 1 811 your Lordship state, by what mode of ope rations it was intended to get possessionot; or de stroy the enemy's fleet, and the arsenals at Ant werp ?—I conceive that was intended to be done, by landing such part of the army as was not en gaged iu the ►iege of Flushing, and employed in the reduction of Walcheren, as soon as possible at Santvliet, and to proceed against Antwerp accord. ing to circumstances, which could not be distinctly . known until our arrival there, but must depend upon intelligence as circumstances tune,. Did your Lordship understand, that, to (arty that plan into effect, it was intended to obtain possession of the ►own and the citadel of Antwerp ? —Not absolutely ; it might have been attained possibly without obtaining possession of Antwotp and she citadel ; but probably could not be eaten'. ed without obtaining ,possession of one '.l them, certainly. At what time was it your Lordship formed the opinion which you afterwards expressed, ►hat those objects could not be accomplished without taking • possession of ►he citadel, as well as the town of Antwerp ?-1 em not perfectly sure that I slated such an opinion ; I suppose that it is meant by that, as part of the plan ; I did not conceive it was necessary, as part of the original plan, that we should gain possession both of the citadel and the town of Antwerp, for the purpose of carrying the objects ' into effect ; certa lily, at a late period, l knew it WAS perfectly impossible without the possession of both, to have done any thing ; I understand the question to be pointed to the plan, whether it was the original plan. Will your Lordship have the goodness to state at whin time it was you were convinced that the possession of both would be necessary lor the ac- complishment of those objects ?—I cannot exactly say when I first formed that opinion, but I errtrin ly entertained that opinion at the time that the armament was assembled at &dm The Committee is to understand that was not the opinion which had been entertained by His Majesty's Government, when the armament sailed from this country ?-1 do not klub, that such an opinion was entertained ; 1 believe not. Wss not your Lordship mode coinpletely ac quainted with what were the opinions end the in tentions of His ill:ijesty's Government, before you sailed from this country.?-1 certainly conceived I was. Then your Lordship conceived that et that time, it was not conceived necessary that you should tain possession of the citadel of Antwerp ?—I mire not staled that; I statell merely that it was not conceived, as I understood. necessary by Ilu Ms. jedy's Government, that in o►der to accomplish the purpose of the destruction of the French fleet. the British army should be in possession both of the citadel and the town of Antwerp. Was it at that time conceived. that. if Tour Lordship obtained posses•inn of the town. • iiiiout th e citadel, you would be able to destroy the flea end the arsenal at Antwerp ii—That mu.t have de• pended entirely on the situation of the fleet suit of the arsenals ■t Antwerp. h the Committee tounderstand that )our Lord ship was sent to attack the mud aluck• at Antwerp. without being appris-il ul what ws their situation ?—1 was not dioioeil) of the biturbou of the docks, unr du I know th4t there were any docks at Antwerp; there ate a ire it many ships Wilding, but I lawny. understood they were building upon slip+, and not in dm kw. - • lithiC9oll:lAlttee LO Ulliderlialiti CIA% y ship was sent to attack the arsenal.% at. ,l Atitserp, without being apprised u„i , situation ?--I did not exactly know, bor d , bend it was ♦ery inatterial to the vurorh e pedition, in what part of the to% a they were under the pretection 01 the A l citadel. What circumstance% that afterw.inl a the knowledge of your Lord,hip, form the opinion that the povari.viett of v would be necebsary for theaccompliduatial of t jects ?-1 had rather reason to beli e never knew it with perfect certainty, tha cipal naval establishments Were upon ground, beta ern the town and citadel; particulai ly alluded to, is trtating the poi., the citadel us nrctasary at the latter p, time 1 was there orgy, dna the whale of 4 fleet had retired as high as the citad e l under the protection of the gnus, and th them bad paroled beyond the eitadi I. Did your Lordhhip knot, before you h whether the orlltllid WWI completely v ,,,, the guns of the citadel ?—I hehrre 1 had no distinct knowledge before 1 where the around, were. Did }our Lordship afte►wards uudei they were completely cominsitdett by 11 the citadel ?—I had different accuuutt telligence stated. that -many of the Ishii were to thut ottoman, ; others, that tl the lower pun of the town.; 1 tko not fit had any .very , coi ;vet intelligence upon tt Will your Lordship hart the isualnes. whether...at any time. any plan ens cui the attack on Antwerp I—No pluu iu fryer cinicer:lid for the attack on Autism have depended entirely upon circutnatonses, we had landed upon the Continent. Previously to your LortUhip's acquainted with the situation of Amore, ' .tretigth of ilx fortifications 1-1 had oul knowlfeo.4e of it. What war that general knowledge ?—F ing sren several plans in military books and citadel of Antwerp; .1 had no part! put into my hands of its existing stab moment. By what node was it intended .to proceed Antwerp from Santahet ?—That would entirely regulated by .circumstances; by the period at which we arrived there much by circumstances of intelligence, arrival, of the strength of the enemy, e. knowledge we should obtain of the actual the place. %Vas there, Et env time during your operations in Zealand, uny plats deviewd tacik upon Antwerp ?—For the reasone ready stated there was none; we never 14:Idi the Continent.. When your Lordship sailed, did you that the operation against Antwerp %as ducted solely by laud, or was to he a military and miss' operation must entirely have depended upon e :FAA whether it would have been most elf flat have made the. iirelmiinary sieges of Lill kenshoeik, oleie I, wee necessary in urih the fug co-np.aation of the Navy, or would hive bei•i, undertaken by the arm. partial co-operatton only of the Navy, could have ethirded, without the capture. torts. " Previously to your Lordship's sailing, Seiluuiutrd with the state of L.illo ?-1 had kuutsledge di►tinctly of the state of Lille, the information and intelinetuce Arcady' Russet will state; 1 had nu particular i upou the subject. Previously to your Lordsl:ip's soiling. acqneititetl with the state of Liefktuahuen not. - Was it not afterwardi your Lordship that the ulterior ohjeets of the Expedition have been accomplished without being sion - of Lillo and Lief kenshook ?--Certait is the Committee to usdemtatid, that of your Lordship, when the army was swam Baths, was, that those ulterior objects have heen aociimplished, without the possession Lillo and Lief kenshoeik, of the town of and of the citadel of Antwerp ?—ln a sure it was; I ■m not perfectly sae, but they could not have been accomplished ail possession doll. I ought to add, that 1 could not well have been done without t *ion of one or two other forts that we/ Lillo and Antwerp, particularly Fort 1 Henry. and another isattery„ which, 1 beh erected 'before that time. Visit your Ltirdahip'e opinion, that sion of the Tate de Flandre, opposite to would have been necimsnry to the acrom of those objects ?—Not aleadntely ; but bend, that if the town of Antwerp, and of Antwerp, had heed got pc-se...ion of at it could only have been by vs siege, an hcnd,•in order to hare performed the slew, fully, we mast hare been in posae•air banks of the river; that the place niu•t completely ilivested, and probably ar II hod posseiiimi of the Tote de Flambe; were in possession of the town and Cli n ta that, it was not nece•sary to have posses. obtain prove.•ioo of I he enemy's Are. Your lorila:.ip hating stated In your the l9th of August, that Antwerp .101, f in n slate of defence eery dfferinit fr•• n ' been repretentid before the is4i.iitg of tl lion, will i our Lord,hap state to what 11 ,4 consisted ?-4 andersiood that the wort warp ha I been repaired, end were in a of defence ; that guile were In iuntril of parts, end th•lt water had been let into IVili your 1-ord*hip hove the got dm., what WU* MC %Wr i►► which Antwerp Ilk ported to Ix• ("re 'mu Lord•htp suttee lieve thet 104 , 1 141 the 1411101 is bef 're the h is e nn c 0 1% to DA +toile hut 11141 4.rorit4.4t. Nall t uur -1111.4.1wria Ivor.. .4..nti,"4" VI/IN, %,42% Ili• 641 ..1 or I: t )43.51.14.6.6!-',l l s 111 616.6/ mot% too %to sr ' 1 111414,) .11111r:err. 11...1,0 h•li, writ. , Ii n turf find -I at' ; thrit r isoni4rl.l *a Ilse ; 031.1 Ih !I ci tt 'said c Ala/ whut Ludt iPPosii ' foi Im u d tv4 karat. nestiosed by tu. 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From who of the tow, an ? 7 I heal rtieui.„ es tend) coon ti l e at ' 11.4t plans that a think it it t coed &gam, eumetances I hen b oa fair, and th , V m a that it 19 jail V ;but ,„ 'Maces, the w i f lto d be , i i : T l l it t l 'i.sim t .'l e rnr h 't tl dld j et 'hr:: t l' : 1. . °111: i o Pi 1, - : : . a b; I el I .1:elli:It Had . never h?gt-haoYett the wiP °Il .a dir: I lust stated aiettl°u trot [ sa n t co n o d li e wii rs h t e, it io, at et. of r h U i l l w , c l ; n ir i eh i ee t Yi r tc w h o c . 1 . : 1 6 i i f, ct l i : s t i :1 1 , 1 !cuolvtaticti, th i gatou , le pier, whit: Ito and Lei= 'llll', mfor, ler to ohne lly who% r whether it your Lord, 01%, with 4 S A bo c rei : , ,, l l3 l l:‘ ul t , . li l ' ;, :r t , ":', in i . i '' 4 :,, o u4 , ll l t ' oi i j ces il y i' pe l 'elitl . , :;' which till art af Mina er.tar Y 6 f S ;, were vas ,ad ao in ine le, but she The ..i.to y belore Mt nifty then v informants Fr ins the g, were yas stand that t elk ?-1 va intliiii 101 . 4 -Ni, cert ilia opinion, nl tattoii on could ws From orb in pusses. h . .011?-1 tl airily it was. that passer. the opiiiiot at 'ltch dii ssemblid et Can 50,11 s could its uo, ind ail mosesvion di t ' . •4 ?- Thi if Antwerp. 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