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• :nen' 3.1 tt 111. tilt .11 E N Ne mon. genii *here Chief 'reel el privet tiko a Dlajee twos Fete wee o 1 , 4 our C u tlKhr ee.l3 oid, 11 • I a I+:111 liW rt. Ile lei em: hiss th of ex, *err la styli aver hand ,!. n. rite 41. think mom Mt tattle 'l4 tiffra• which %% err kr. d F.. 1 t OA • hoe dM 1144 awl I abet , ' dear know the es Whet Let h he. ,nts-f alit I ttt 144 bed h. talon, rst pr inlet •a thirst 01. qR truce art. theta Five I rt aid t itft have d Fula, 'hi-, st•••. Joey cout, lir at th ed a al i 1 11,•••te lit of It* ings 0 , it then met tram air wire ea. a cet. .rb tab. k e their Owl Alf nal Ti Sea oda tenet I tie uPDr , lie Ft:ei 1! 1 saad tie tr.t v there titre of al i jir to. riot .ta Maja NO. ti Gent • in f then Coln tole r • tqlti *lf be a • 11 IC •I :I • I 111 a • e• , y • . • 4 . ! • .. • • • • portinj it es stroty as he could, for ever, ergo. eon he had u sed certainly had this etle.t. He t told them that Minheers could oat vlv,er hi. s t y what answer to gyve, and that the rd ii. w went to 'torch His Ilajesty's 'aerateire. this heignage was this doCtritie • tor a vary of Fate tus'addriew to . the House of Cem. onus (He a r! hear !)—Tne Right Honourable 'milkman also said, that Ministers did not know to dud a rennet made by the Commander-4.- 004 e great expedi ion, but in their Sovereign's 're. Did he rums' W soy that they were ivste? U as, then any Privy Councillor 'night advantige of hie i;tuetion, to opprosah His + s ty. snd make what observation* and unions• one hr pleased, its prejudice to any mat or any ad vice.—( Hear!) — This would be utterly aubver ee of die Constitution.—(Hear! bear !J—Par if • C m ornaerier.in-Cbief did so, every Commander , g h t ; and there would be no end to is si stem us. it d:•corlair to every principle of jiistire. B y 1, 10'40, 10610111100.1 would be hid troll that . we, whose utidouhted ri. t ht it ors for the puldic s,:trr rot t coin!'! he ',lid !Before them. without o urlice to the wevice of the State. The Right 114•Se:rdory was gei.eious mud bountiful to them. was en very kind as to admit their right to make ihes w iduenues ; yet he would deny them theme ins f wool in; that right! Hot he told them. they a , to 1,.• governed by nicer dew -reties' so selecting n et, 11.0% might, a,141 such a• they ought nut to per to. he 'lshii it would he shortest to Wait a C u minander-insChiel to make psi. to tumults dessione to Ili. Nlirjesny. on eon. f the highest netiorial inkiest 2 Did he unk it would be discreet in the House of Cons to shut their eyes fo the traischf that mows' title loin these seceet and cloak...tine turo-e• it. ?—(!Year! 11•11 r pahhe were st ise by deated to the attainment of thin knee t o . d eli they were constitotionally 'ere it pereuitted, in whet would the mutie.eity & e land duller from the most absolete monarchy lit veer ezistell ? War not the system off:sera:P. ire lotto Itteed aryl eritehleilied by it. as broadly A firmly us it list ever bees' exercised in the a n c ient Coons of Prance end Spain ?—(/leer heir .'/—The Right 11018. Gentleman did nut forsooth. where to look for these paper.. Where did h• lark for the lut ?.—(Hear ! hear!/ 1,1 Imo go The same way to hod %ha ethers. and to itusfy the liuuse and the country on this import. Alt inquiry. It appeared that the Noble Oenemill had grsciisiorly cuedeucended, in a conversation. to inform Mat of his c olleague,. a f ew m i„„ te „ plwettted his nerrahrue to Its Majesty et the rice, iron ilealeiltion to do so. They .Iron le n t trust one another, MIA acted without coecem sad without eousriden-e. Let the Ilmiew then orld.ess Ilia Majeaty. Ills M;..jesty would 'Mt these 111174.11011 to hi. id they might urudare them. Ilis Nl.siesty cook! oe no Prams CO keeping them hack ; end the ..r. purest of the Right Hon. Secretary, insinuating 'hi., was only for the pu pose of throwing Ills Ma. rely's person over Miniaere, wheat own conduct :cashi not defend them. Would His Majesty "ink t the • alum:ries twr upon so gellaut awl respect. ed so Alter as Sir It. Strarissn ? Wined lie he the repo-story of private insidious attacks upon she tersest service of the omantry ? Net theme things wee eieiliwihrlif RitrebereZlGY lad to the virtue of lii. 111 -sty, as they were co/genial to Ilse feels tees of hi. ! hear !)—lt was t . here . mast uoconatututim i el to introduce Elie Nis a name, cud mph.. ate has character in such transactious. Bat it a-as not because they were adverse to comoult His 3lej-sty„ that this stmeiosi oppeued Nlinistete; it was to cover their owe imbecility, their or:drums, their disegeteueents, their di.vennoia They frit their situation. sad the ) called iu Ili. Mapety'a pendia to protect theme P•TP.a.—(!tree ! !war I) TneCeahelaLLol of lbe ESCHICOVER mpported thes sssiwuof Mr. Su-cretary Ryder. which, he coo. bederl, were not justly liable to the censure throws spun them i.v the lost speaker. Ilia Right U. b.d uku , Awkdged the rights of the Houses od i.ut the question of their exercise upon whet It •-ted—ol o i r discroiris. Ile had Meted. that there meld be no quiestioe upon the production at an *theta' paper. it,. whether it would be ?proms in the public service ? stud also that the I) war ;:al a right to k n ow by whose advice Ilse ajerty au ted us any particular metier. His NO.it Friend then evinced uo desire to trench ee the privileges of the Howes. or on the 4011. *elation of the country. In the present rase,. bnittuone o opppositt had sounsid what ems. In feet, not tree. They hid mourned that bore Weer "SCiil communication, from the Con. maortersin.Cluief, and. mill farther, that in three ' 4411 1 , 1 , w:el min. he had relieunuiated s bee +l,r °Acre. They wished to address lot. s I"' sh.y ("old nut dose- ilie; wail outdid, with de , orn o. inner addresses to His Majesty for letter*. (Hear! lacer!) He did we firm. ! , ,.4f ro 4 ht en as uk ski, , hut oily otieeril that it *meta be • new en, rose that right. The Hem Mover its seine of the force of this orguineut ; fon in is speech, he Oat. 41 the pr.yedeat of a wet ni,Aht, sod endeavoured he show, that' 1114 'rt bring p.orioleet, the same coarse should now Rat t'ie gretnuil of his eoitspliauve lust undue. ((ksterai Lufttiliai, was on "' mid . ' tent ; for he knew. on the 13th of Fe -1 •,.. (the (ley befogs it *ea totooliti, that the • •• ni (-4E...5al comedy. and withwi She sew+ tlitoigi The — t-•• two mom were. therefore. ilis ctly the reverse of each other. the pito telbt A W. '+ , Ministers could gm . • no onewer. eseept ris a personal applinstiois to the Sneeteilf" ; to other, they hod • ieforn u. their own poses- Mitch had beets said rionrcting the isis-wer t" , ..e Addeo., of th e cuts o f Linvilon. The nier ..e 41•11 c ttai. , ly mot 1 . 1 .owe to loin at the taupe Aris Ills Mateo yto return ill it anso. r • but . r' ab , resat of it *een 4ruls haul ' , cued, Ise mom • I I h • is _ _ ,• that eta , . I . le read . ....;;: so to • thee Twit to tied,..:.. loot in fl or e t ben' as tee while, than to. Iwo, oloole. r es the Oppasiiiase.)—llo• ground •Y nit r .s, that h owever the N• bl e Loral I %clown) not .1 gate his own caw, leasing it to novel . to justify their own euisdort• rl.up .telses that no delays ha hY the firet of time navy, lint were Oka ‘1) the weather, end onavoilsble didleulttrn Had Ministers then, ineteod of actirsor twos the piddle diair 'whys. ailed itproi the stated ca , ,e of en tudtrtdual in his own joantiertion ; the House would have the g lies. to consider what they could have utivired. What inquiry conic' they have directed ? •joir t one ; into the array and navy to gether. In the history of the country, no such thing bad veer beeu dune. An Inquiry into the conduct of the navy ?—..that tun was u .loece.ledted. Would the Hon. (lent. twain', have advised the curly pn.wtble step—the bringing of "'or Richard Strachan to a Court-Martial, where torte Was no charge itgairpt hint. and where every dispatch shrived that him conduct was deaeresi6 of their approbation? Th e tiliestlon now we., *bather !his was an Occasion oil %inch they wOold ereen.tise their discretionary right, cud address lb/ htskuty. to know. whether en undrscribed paper wee or was not in ea.stence ? Of this supposed piper, they knew net the character—they knew it was not offi• eiril—they knew that Uni advice had been given. which bad produced any COnshltUtionol act UOOll it. Upon these cossidentuons, he tout omoi.e the Mr. TIaRII6T followed the arguments of Mr. Whitbread. and called forth en ezp.auation from the Chali(;ellor of the Exchequer. S;r Homo Poottatt ohaeryeal, that th. right of aildre.aing was achouviledged on, all sides; and if that I iAlir ads nit mow exercised, it wo u ld he doom a Brett strong to loos gallant friend, Sir Richer &radian —f /bar !)—lle must prtvallir that route papers, of tie kind called for by the Address, did mi.,: mid if it were so, he trusted the feelings of else Mouse world induce them to do jii.tice to the brave Arlnsind. by eaobling him to discovet and repel every charge tirou4ht aoisist liiin.—(!leer ! hear!)—.Whet mit.t they think most be the coo tent. of impel'. of whim* all the eloquence of the moat able mei. its that Moose could not procure the produchan? A great Expedatiois had failed, and in inertiry had beau Matituted into the cause of that failure, by t he House of Congruous. Four teen days after the contramicement of that inquiry, a narrative. and a journal of the conduct of the faeces, wrote') by the Earl of CID .chain, were laid before them. Would tt Mit ll:eve beet. more libual to hair pre,elited th,of il , e•uments at first. —( neer ! bear! hear .9 This narrative. whatever opinion some persons might entertain of coutaiiseil a grave and serious charge against Sir Richard Strachiiii ; how could that phone Officer siy, Ole, alter he refuted this, another liar.. ranee out Annear, with other. and Nosily swims. cliar4es agam•t biro ?—(littir! bear!/ —a third lin 4'it follow—edition upon editom ought Ise publodied 111 b114:6 e•-i..n, and !.is aisjitted friend euted w•verl,e eil4hicd to meet a once she vileole—. th.• hill eat. in and :wow of the chi-ges against //Par ari hear !(=The effect of this Loaf hail newt shriwit a Wish to ens mistrust ihul disuniou between the army sad miry. Ile would have been Istappy could he lime mode the same elicatioo with reopeet to the speeches Of the Gni . tlemen opposite. Sir 11. POPHAM ditphita . Oda fir. IL W•RD. aßer a Winne of arthiuse to Sir U. Strdiehan, stated, the vary moiosit it was •r k.ioo to Lord Mutgrarr (which it Na.w.f. uu the 15th) dirt bird Chatham had pretwitted his isarrAive to Hirt 114jOety, he had itiforuird Sir Itiehard Str.ichati of the event; arid him a ropy of the path r, and offered to convey issimediatelv to the King ahy nor ratite or accoutti, he (sir iL S.) might sti-h to have presented, (lie read the letter, to the *lmre effect, as part of his speech.) fit limiented to have heard what fell bons the Holt Captor. as this was wit the mosaeot for such diveursiolio. The mital officers might, if they thought it necrsiar ) , just ify their conduit to the country, bat Mi n isters re. quired RujUsiilicatioa fines them, besug tvti,lird that they had dour their duty, lie then adverted to the question before the Hesse; and couteudeJ that it was ant true Ilk for Gentlemen to assume a point. and thoi all on Minutes. to prove a negative. lie .14 esterended, that the re. finial of Lord Chadians he eimmer the gumbos put to him, was i.O 1400 f that sada paperoasei ezisti and coin v trod t!te c•ist 140 that apterous welloing S. soy whether they sacra the authnn of eertsio publics tions, or inst. Duels And been fought uti this point or honour--and turn would not be forced to as even when that answer would entirely satisfy in. qrstry. Were it *hewn that the papers were to low lug, he would be es ready as in) One to ruts for their production; list, in the present state of the matter, mast oppose the motion. Sir S. ItiosittLer begged to offer a few words. which, he thought, must infallibly procure the vote of his lion. Friend (NIG Ward) its favour of the Address, in conformity to the sentiment he had just expre,sed of voting for the Paper., were he convinced of !heir existanice. 1V iien his lion. Friend wcollected his original studies, at the time he was a member of that profession to which he had the honour t o b e l o n g . it would occur to him, es :in estahlialn,litriskipie in all courts ul common jos, ice, that, whets an evidence would not answer whether or not he wee the writer of any paper, it was invariably the direction of the judg.e to the jury, to consider this fclU11•1 as an atknow. ledginent of his being the author. But if the papers now moved for were not in existence, then there was Ail stronger groin'''a for the mo tion. A jealousy was entertained, that a gallant Officer. end a particular branch of service, were ca lumniated its a paper, and what then could they do bettr,r, than remove all the doubts On the subject, and *hew that there wits on tonsidation for these suspicion. ?—(//ece ! hear !)--..ht this question, the matter, he kora. w e - ' c ry K r au t spots the navy. pr.vileges of the !louse alw were materially Ma Th oc who had nut s reed for years exclaimed volved. A Peer of Pariitunent.vuunitied 4 them, ligation it.--•.,Stiould such another succeed it, what refound 10 vueseer a questiros, as so the eminency of owlet that du !-wt must even rouse from the dad a paper which they supposed would throw imperial* and the mum-stool of tlw navy.—(//r or ! light on the logniry So which they were ersgagetie, hr..') This iris not • past' queation ; it WA/ for They could not, by the Constitution, employ that justice they were called on to decide. Justice to co,rcioo toward, him, they could use tOWiirdatCollll. • man who was the nlol of the lervire; (Asar !)—. molter. Bun they had other nivetia of prose. e lung to wham had reaped the highest honours too e j oblong the none biformatioti. They 'night iii.lreas omit' hartow—.ha bad *pant his life ui the sera I ilis who would ch. erfolly lay before diva vice of his cooing., and had been rewarded both ' , battier infinmatina they considered In be mate by the.n aI 4 try omits distinction t'rem-irs 906 rise. gibe 4700,1411.4143eui1emia moscieried lue-tior veringie....(freer! hear!) He now lay under heavy (ening to the @trona , measn . 0 . the Rouse had charge..—(Ararieleri enea of .'to Ne! hear ! adopt-d, in order in nrocure r.e information they hear !) Could Gentlenteit assn g4l down to their thought netes-ary to have on the Duke 01 yo,L t s Coustituouta, wed sty..•• Return iniestigution. iii the possesimis of Saurian ; and would address His NI sjo.ty to enable • gallant tii.iiignt there could be no doubt, no reason, for Officer to do justice to himself, to resese h.s clue.. not resartiliz, io the present instance, to a humhl raster. and the character or the British navy.-... Address to lit* Majesty fora similar purrow.. I liter called on the House to lay aside all Mr. Dural:o4S thought Lord Chatham perfectly thoughts of party. They must believe tile paper justitiahle. lie lied dour all be could; he had egisted. It wee aii invasion of the rights of an made out hi.. case, on which be rested his defamer, ifividual, and. like the invasion of a country, ought and laid it before them. It was all he sto o d on , to unite all parties to repel it.--(f/ear ! hear !) end all that Sir R. Stracbau had to answer. The The Flow Captain again warmly paocAyrised Sir Gentlemen opposite had no right to assume the IL. Stmeims. Otiose contirl•rice fie wiu proud to facts they hud assumed. and Lord Chmh rn had sad for whose uisislicstion no exertion, on I acted a much more honourahle and manly part, in part. •hoodii 1w wasitiog. He notic. d several preseuting the statement on his own respousibility. peals. csnnected with the Eaptiliiinir, which were and from his men view, than he would have doge s misunderstood in the narrative. He went up the had he consulted his colleagues on what they would Scheidt. with the flotilla coder his command, in 41 hove wia:ied it to he. The answer to the r icy of hours, and twat one of the enemy'. advanced boats. Loudon, he contended, was moat proper ; aml that a-... The narrative stated, that Lord Chatham wrote if all the cirrunistances which had transpired *nice te ILSte.ichaie. ou thr 4•h Au4u,t, and lead re ceived no full answers till the eth. The fact was h.. 4 then 'seen known. it ought to have caused no difference in that ansatr. this. Sir K. Strachan received a letter on 'be ath, esubrai Lig, many topics connected with the Esprit'. Innis ; to diku.. which. hr thought a pervornsl inter. new with the Cossunninler-in.Cusei would not (wily be more res t e-csful. hut snore advent 'genus to the 'service. Th.. was the cosine he adoi:Led. hi the letters ureelluced too, one very issisterial pa...age 001 omitted. It was that no which Sir IL Strachas of. Sir J. A KSTILVTUIS noticed, that, in all the de bate. no man had lwiro found to deny the erci.teuce of the papers, or area a belief that they did oat exist. It was not a private paper that was moved fur. but an account horn the Commander-in-Chief of an Expeditiou. iu ishieh millions load been ex• pended. and thou...twill of lives Attriticrd. If this paper did not exi.t, how could Ministers smear, fm leaving it in suspicion and darkness ? (Hear !) If it did enat, no danger could ensue flora pro ducing it. The House had resolved to inquire into every circumstance connected with the az peditirin, Li' ought not to be s►ti-tied with only that information which the Commander-in. Chief swished to / pre up. Could they call it doing justice to the country, in this important trial. to in sist uu the production of no more than soitei the ac. iiNed. If they meant fair ;►od sflicauou• inquiry. owl to put the too services on an equality. they most iovist on having as full disclosures from the winery. as they hint Irons the naval service. On Vivre grounds he 'mold vote for the Address ; nor wonIJ Ise suffer Nliesisters or Military Commanders to lie smuggled and screened behind the King's feral. in order t 3 expedite the ulterior objects in view, to eavi.t in the reduction of Flushing. by laying lax hue of bettle-ahips alongside the whenever the Connuatideron-Chief required it. ...Wes this like wont of zeal ?—/ hirer ! hear!) — Lord Chathsta's dispatches proved, indeed. that hie narrative could not be depended uilon. In his very tir.t letter. he toil Government that the army would hare been much retarded. but fur the "lit ity and exertioi.a of the t Officers of the Flirt. and his praises and cuiessitiod.t . went on increa.iiig till the ltith of August. 11.. w came it. then. that. ou the 15th of October. he should give so didlerent sn " pent to t h e s eg o ,. and pfutharr such • paper is Ilse 'mold in February, after it, While wrereted. reviaed, end correeted, liar four mouths ? Hear .') If oath was the diracriptiest of what W.V. produced. tieTe• he roust suppose that. whet it we, samba,' ta. ..0„_ sir (t ats and, that Lord Chatham bad mt. wus wilt stew ugyswity : inst il, to the fame a n d tintn.ra. In h is examination, no wish to conceal ally character of Sir Richard Stnichent. Ile therefore point .omiected with the alights' pl.n, the con - misted the House *add enable that t till. i duct, or eetvolsou of the Expedition. He only eel. to fact the oceimatitimi egoism him, by voting I relta•ca to ••••,•* • 911etion which related to kis fur the. Address. oon conduct subsequently. vii. whether he hod General LOFTUS defended Lord Chatham. The ererr"ted.. commar : d clo s ed ? H e th en argue d the 3 "1 l'el"raagio or "rretiro to the King. Hon. Officer. who just sat down. laid much since ht stress ems the narrative. and s . su . rird it at i t w „. c o. i two ground+ of right and disc:vet:on. and also the ciliated to produce dommou netweeri the arm) and i Oast" "I precedents. The former he con A=4 but ewntewclecl, that the ten l a tt er wen s aonnst navy. Could Lord Chatham have done otherwise thee present it. after the letter of Sir U. !Snot-hem Kr set 3o2 the motion. He rriitat.d. that the pea of the tills August, for hawitic written which. the fear Jul not etest in any pnbrit oflice of the state: gallant Admiral. in hi. examilietmo. had •apre o not and indeed no paper had been called for, or stated Isis regret ? It was to defend hoinvelf from that let. to emit, th e . whole tieing an assumption end nipp ier that the Noble Lord 11•41 'Prima this narratme. salon. Lprin the practice of Coarse of inatice, he an Ihe dcheil aoy man to .ay that it emitamt .1 a dr'. r t emi toolotelf direct!) et Mime with the Leonard single re/miters on the British wavy. The Noble ( ecutltinan opposite. iSir $. Kemal) .) ,When *Whet teiltnierl to *weer, so lei from its being tslodi as au IllekilOWledgOlflit, it wee always taken ell if the qu-stiiiti had 'lever been put. Mr. Wllllllol' supported the motion. He could see thi rea.ion lot not following up the same line of conduct they had Observed with regard to procsir. ing the narrative now in their possession. : He could tor, however, see aoy reasou for presuming, than the paper now celled for, when produced, would be found more injurious to the navy than the present. Upon what grounds its production was resisted he tould not understand. At the time the original Motion was made for the natrs hie, had any Member, upon surmise that the& might be more than one, moved, that "arty war retiree," instead of " a narrative," should be produced ; what possible objection could have been offered to the amendment ? The very nature of the communications constituted these papers public; and if any form was necessary to render them more obviously so, it could readily be re wined to, as was dune with the narrative.-- The fault of Ministers, in not making them pass officially , could not be urged f u r their own protection ; neither was the now-existence of pea pers any ground foe refusing a motion for their production. He then cited several instances, where papers, which were kiwis', out to exist, had been moved for, but of those now called for, no one, after what had pa,sed, could doubt the existence; and, he trusted, the HOOVC would insist an their being produced. Mr. Caxxisio said, he was anxious to state his mesionefeeebe vote eL , ch he felt binuself compelled to give on the present occasion. The shortest, *envied. and fairest way of effecting that object, appeared to him to be, to state candidly what lie thou.:tit the must correct mode of proceeding. He should have considered it fortunate, if. after the failure of the Expedition to the Scheldt, His Ma.. je.ty's Governateut had instituted such so inquiry as would have enabled there to meet Parliament with au opinion on the subject; he was aware that such opinion could not be binding upon Perlis. went; fur, after all, it might say, that Ministers were t:ieutselvesi %blame; but, suppose the opi. Moil was, that e existed howhere, he would still be glad to see. that that opinion was foauded upon inquiry; and not the result of any more equi. vocal proceeding. indeed, so completely was be impressed with the idea that His Miiksty's Mini ster. would have adopted such a line, that he came down to the House. oil the very first day, with as intention of asking, as a matter of course, the narratives of S.r Richard Str iclien and Lord Chile them, if soy such there were. He alissieoned the intention, however. from obvert mg it to be air gr. *Jena opinion that such papers did not exist. After the speech from the Throat ;lie Jul nut speak trout a heeling of hostility to any Luau) but after that speech he made up his miud, as be believed most permits did, that no such narrative existed. The fact letnrceer turned out • to be otherwise, the uarrative d:d mast, but it d.d not seem to exist to Ley beneficial purpoae—it did riot mem iuteuded to make part of **documents upon which they were to form their itelgturet in the Inquiry, nor upon a hich the Elmo eutive eloterement itself was to form its judg. messi—(lleur l hear ! hear ! from the Opposition). He cimisidersd the situation in which the llotoe was riser.' an anturtutiate sue ; it turned out that a mtinit;ttle mertimpeetuat of “ii; is feerardir - • the course of investigatioo. to exert, without the knowledge of the Goverrioneet. With respect to Lent Chatham. he wished to speak of him with that regard and respect. to winch, upon his own account, and upon accouut of his illustrious tilt. live, now no more. he wee entitled ; but what Was the situation of Lord Chatham, when he undertook the conduct of the Expeditiou to the Scheldt ? lle was certeisly a Cabinet Minister, that was, in other words, a Privy Councillor, lovebird uith a high pop liticel shanties,. But when he agreed to accept the comeniuid of the Expedition, when he placed himself in that situation, he became as much ree sponsible for his conduct, in the discharge of it, as any a'an who had risen from the raiike—( Hear hear ! jean the Opposition.)—He had no more right to a short arid noel road to the King'. ear, than any ether ()alive In far as i.e •as re•p ot". sible fur advising the Expedition. in his capacity as Csiiioet Councillor, he wa, respoubilile to Par. Ild111•!Ut alone; but, for the execution of it, he was rrtisomnble to the Kiug ; Lut then, reirousiLle in those ordinary ways o h:cli were open a be t l oo n. It was not right that the defence cf . one Officer should go to the office, while that of the other went to the King. if he was wrong in his optnunis, it did not proceed so much from errors in reasoning as in principle. If the principles which be sumistained were true, the narrative of Lord Chethem ought to have been presented, either through the See cretary of State. or through the Counuatider-in. Chief of the Army. He heard that some doubt hod arisen, in consequence of Lord Chatham's ap pointment; by the sign manual of the King. It was supposed that some new and extraordinary right must have resulted, end that that of present. ing ■ narrative to the King, in persou, was among the number. lu this, he (11r.C.) could not segeiesee. The instructious of all Foreign Ministers received the some sanction, and 3rt thee was no instance of a Foreign Minister claiming the same privilege as Lord Chatham. Theo certainly were obliged to ;4ive iu et-count of their proceedings. but they passed through the Secretary of State. A Cabii:et Slinieter might certainly denoted an audieece of the King; and if the audience was between the individual and the Sovereign osilyAr should think that the House bad no right to desnaud it. No man could answer whether ihr t ommehication was of %acts a nature, but Lord 011011,ln himself. He had given nit ive to the King; but after. wards, by • retrograde movement, according to the march of the nonstnutioh, it was mode of& coil. It was a sound doctrine in politics, Una% Hi. Majesty had always an adviser, so that, 'tr. such • Paper ex.sted at •11, it might eit•ify be clothed in en dicta fem. The saute pewees, whit 'ride e similar !leper official is the fame, ineaure. might also in the errs st.--They hod had a genera's, lona raos from the Honourable Gentleman lrebad Li m, who 41t1 ohs" if he th oug ht such a paper did exits', he would vote for he pro. doctien. For his dolt pert, he should not ;:e quite gip far es the Hon. Gentleman ; for, thianth he should know that it 'silted. he would fe I it nos cowbell' ea hiss Is look lute its nature. 9- I