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I i~ when Tories and High Churchmen openly espoused I the cause of the Pretender.—(Hear.) —But per haps he should be told that in these instances the ' persons 1411114 d to acknowledged no foreign autho rity. But what if he were to tell of a sinall sect of Christians, whose principles were universally ad mired ; who, living in England, recognised • foreigner as their spiritual head. The persons he alluded to composed the sect of the Nloravians— f Heark—and he doubted not that the head of the Roman Cho-ch, residing in his Palace at Rome, was not more desirous of disturbing the peace of England than the hri.d of the Illaravisu Church, in his humbler dwelling at Fulton:h. England, he runarkerl, was now the only country in Eutope where men were punished for their religious (mi llions. Ile quoted the words of Locke, that no man should lie punished for his religious opinions, and coacluded by observing, that no man in the present age of general knowledge could seriously think of imputicg to the Roman Catholics the ab surdities and follies of their ancestors, in those periods when the human mind had made compara tively but little progress. lie should vote fur the snot ons.—(lkor.) The Bishop of PETERBOROUGH—If this were a question of religion merely, the Noble Esrl op posite should have his vote, for no osie could be viore rfecir!edly hastile to any tlnitg bordering on religious persecution, but it arts evident from the Petitions on the table. 641 nothing less than au ex tensing) of civil eights and political power was re triired by the RUM:IO Catholics. Ile disclaimed 4 very sentiment which would cast 011 the Roman 11:111111/11eS such imputations as the Noble Earl hail ' , flitch(' to in lii• speech. It was not on ahstract piinciples that he would argue for the propriety of •st holing the Petitioners, Intl because that with slini.ci principles were connected others which %vete not obstruct, lie should be obliged to re lose this it tailors!. Let them believe as they pleased 111 transubstantiation, or ally other doctrine • h'-ruin the Churches of England and Houle way d 1:. r, lint if aid, this begirt they connected a sults ur:osiitii to a foil-Igo potentate, derogatory to the &toy they owed King t fenrge, lie should not give thrust trpial 1111.1 - 611'111:t6 aisle those who gave tin ir unilivaltd allegisiice to King George iiltogether.— (lieor, l•cor.)—\u o u r, lie thought, could deny that s' litre allegiance was um qual, the claims of those r ho the advantages of die Coostitution noun also be unequal ; owl it followed from this, that if the members of die Church of Ruins ,livided 04,4 allegiance, giving part to their own Savers igu roil part to a foreigner, they ought nut to be pl aed on the sauna rank • ith those oho gave all tirii uliegiance to their native Krug. lie argued theil un the danger that must arise to the Church of Eir ; ;!siof fr o m such concessions, abd urge,' that the !wilt ef Rome, not. , ithstaidtog what had fallen f:um his Lamed Friend, was as desirous as estr of striolnig its authority. The Order of Jesuits, re in:ll,ll4ll,d by the prt sent Pope, were not restored in vain, nor acre the Romish Cltrgy generally less atixt,•ll. than the Jesuits to assist in promoting the power oft he Sovereign Pontiff. This they were bou Lid to (la, ti n t Iran be their o wn dt slres than by the obli gati of an oath ; for by a decree of the Council of Trent, confirmed by a Bull of Pius I V. no clergyman could be nustituted without taking an oath, declar itig 't .Surattum N npnAtolicain ecelesiarn I:mutton: esse .11,thitin et dumiatnn omnitint eerlesiarum," and most they nut desire that the property in the pos session of the servant should be enjoyed by the " Mirtre-s of all Churches," being of course the Mistress of the Chuicli of England ? Ile spoke of the danger that attend, il the church in Ireland, if the Popish priestlium: ucquirtd upsl political power with the Protestmits, and inked what security the King could hose, if he were surrounded by a Rramish es.tablislnnent. The cotiaa guei,ces of such it state of things ‘\ tie too paiiiful fur iftsciiption, but he trusted that their Lordships' decision that night auula remove all cause of apprehension. — (/Par, /our.) The Ent of RosEDERRY ro'e, but spoke nl a A•ety inaudible tone of voice. Ile expressed (4s we could collect) his satisfaction at basing an opportu nily of .xpliorring his sentinwilts lii favour of his Roman Catholic fellaw•subj , cis. 'fhe question sins, aliedier Ireland should take that station which tiattire a..,1 the Constitution assigned to her, or a li. they site should still be retarded in her progress to wealth and happiness. Ile o bserved that the • rim-stint' was of less interest in the dine of peace, 1 Lan in the went of being :again engaged ill Lostditirs, and 110 better preparation could lie Made to !Ora the iinpendiug danger than this opt, if concession. which would convert disaf fection to loyalty, and draw even from the sources cf discontent the means of strerigth. In such • vase our armies might be led abroad to meet the foreign enemy, instead of being confined at home, in site thsgractful duty of watching our own popu latioti. Lord 1)E DINSTANVILLE, we lament to state, arlso spoke ill a tune of snide 60 extremely low, as to tie for the most port quite inaudible below the bar. The Noble Lord quoted the opinion of the ltev. Dr. the Vicar Apostolic of the Catholic Church in this country , on the Bill which was in tie, year 1813 brou4lit into the Lower Douse, and declared himself under the necessity of thinking, that the measure now proposed would not have the effect of satisfying the views of' the Petitioners, for w;tose beirtfit it was intended. Ile was fully of op : 01011 that the English Catholics ought to be put upon the Sallie flailing us the Irish. But lie slid not ihiuk this motion calculated to produce the desired effect ; sod he felt himself, therefore, with i jeat regret, under the necessity of giving his vote irgainst it. The Lords CHANCELLOR thought that in the present question, the real point at issue was, not what would satisfy the Catholic alone, but what would or ought to satisfy the Protestant.—( Hear, /:ear.)—The Noble Lord who made Ibis motion 1. i.l out 1:11111e fora ard with any specific proposition. Ni'llat oaths did Isis Lordship mean to propose in tar place of di ire which lie meant to repeal ? a hat oaths had he which could reconcile the Pro testaut to his measure ? Surely he ought, in the first instance, to say what course lie meant to take sit the Committee. Perhaps in making this liatti- I idar call for the measures which the Noble Lord etitemplated, lie exposed himself to the impute. t of the cavilling precision of a lawyer. lie spoke ;trollops with the prejudice of a lawyer, anderstaailing the principles, as lie trusted he . .. did, of British law. It was because he felt a of Lora Ilardwicke upon the laws ea4cted at the 1 drstanditig upon this paint, it Might be Weceisary jealousy for their preservetion that he was thus Revolution, He avo wed that he was ready to steed ,to consider what were, and what were not, the fen early in stating, that though lie yielded to no . or fall by that law'oinion. Lord Herdwicke clearly dements! laws 111)311 which the Protestent Constitu. man in the warmest attachment for toleration, I laid down the that this was a P r otestant Con- ton rested. lie would, to the first instance, pro in the sense in which tolvretion ought to be pro. . 'routing', and that it Was protected and guarded as ceed to mattibat the first argument of the Noble perly entertained, yet he did not hesitate to coo. : ands by the laws of the . land. Ile . Paid it . was nod Learned Lord, (frt the Constitution, as este which he felt in reconciling guarded from ecclesiasticel usurpation. — ( Cries blished at the Revolution was reclusively and es the utter difficultv the doctrine of' the King's s upremacy in ecelesias- lof hear, hear, front she Opposition heaehes.)— sentially Protestunt. He would yield to no man tical affairs with that of the right of the Pope to Let the Noble Lords wbo cheered him bores while in his reverence H 0(1 WIIIIIIIIIIPIII for the religion any ecclesiastical supremacy in the readmit of his lie repeated, that any admission of supremacy trot lie professed, and when the Nolde and Learned Majesty. Let their LordslOpe see what Perliament within the rer an', but out of the retain, was eccle- Lord used the phrase " a Constitution tssereially could adopt consistently with the provisionsof the 'Mistiest usur p a tion, en d precisely that against which Protestant," he (Rail Grey) wished to see if lie Constitution, which could guard the authority of it was the object of the law to provide.--(Rent, understend the Noble mod Learned Load's defini the Crown against the interference of a second was that species of tyranny as well us duil—he took it to be 0.14, the! at the oaf ecclesiastical power iii the State, if the claims pot u sury pation which must ter 11l i t tate fatally for the It- for the perpose of scenting the liherty oaf the coun forth by the Roman Catholics were to be implicitly bestirs of the people, S u ch w a s the opinion of Locke, try, which lied Levu emleiagertel by the enemies admitted. Before their Lordships could bring such of Paley. The supporters of this motion must of parties who widied to promote the Catholic their minds to a deeisien upon this question, they be prepared to say, that they v.lll, should they religion, it was provided that the King Phiiidil lie must take an historic reference to the state of carry their measure, leave the Protestant church in iof the Protes'aet r.digion, that the State slieuld the existing laws, which were enacted between !relent! to fare as it cam The sionnetat they so he essentielly Piot, stale, Hod t hat the Bill or the stars 1660 :Ind 1668, mi d s o, requen tly— eameigned it, he would ask. what hecente of ilwir Rights and Act of Settlemetat plot ecterl this Pio- If they beliescd the r ecord o f those times, that the ullegience, what because of* the securiiiea which testent mint tale. The objection lie Isail to the tnechmations of the Catholics hail imperatively led their secretors had interwoven animal the pillers argioneets of the Noble wad Learned Lord was, to the enactments which (Ahmed—if they believed of their church, tied what of their owls s o lemn . Ilea lie (the bard Chancellor) appeared to make lan that the &chime of that church had created this pledges to support the supremacy of thet church ? distinction le-totem the Irene tat the Constitution nece ssity—then they must f ee l that outer a new case --In the years 171)9 and 18 00 , wheii rel+Xeli mm which were Imidamental a nd essential, a ti lt th o se s h o uld h e s liew u, awl until the Church of Itonse were spoken of in a particular niatieer for the i i which were collateral and i•tibsidiary. The Noble revokes the dortaiiies which are ascitheil ta her, tt liftman Catholics, nobody ever thought that and Learned Lord seemed to piece out of his sight is impossible to uthuit the broad claim ef the Ireti. the broad claim of *elms' Privilege would have altogether that some of the fundamental principles tioner , and at the same time to adliete to the been ► started by them. Securities were talked of whorls lie married should lie neurnailvnt, had been great colislitutiothil maxims of the Stine. 'flie at those periuds—the veto—domestic 'Pauline- telexed end modified shire the It eveltition ; and if it great tomp „,.‘ teeter ,' i itto i ii 1688, between the 'ton. B u t tin y bad the utitliority of 1)r. Alillier could be shrall that many el them were thetnted lay people and the Kole, r. Ns, that there should be • Rod of others, that those iirroligelllent , were lin. Vilflieulit erelitN which wer, cogent HI the time bar Protestant King, a Protestant Parliament, and a satisfactory und morns 1 p.ete ; ..0 that fan prospective Ike enactineets diet wife a dopted, but which were P r otestant G o v e rnment, ,dike a cknowledzlag the arrangements not is4lisfactin Vto the community sit pmt longer justilieble o r se esesseiy, then he would spilitual supremacy of the Crown. The freedom of whose behalf they were itnele, the oblate state of ask e hat became of the Noble awl Least sitql I..nril's this C on stitutimi h a ppily wa., that tan Mini could be the Cinistitution niust be allele'', o new system ef argument, matt %drat of the broad prieciple m a im questiontel upon of persecuted for his reheious tier - laws fortnell,hant to eatis'y one part of thecominunity, which alone I:e could I ointl it , lie fully teal mons; that he could not be molested el ihe actual but to alienate amother.--( I leur.)--The head cordially admitted that the Constitution was Nude exercise of them, unless he so del:erned hituselfiliat lof s Isiugdain mien la v law be a PrAr l 4:l l lillig; lUMUlally illtil t'SSeittlilly Proll'Slafil ;it was eq aully a political eth-et s esolteil therefrom to the injury or —the moment he cera•ed to be that, lie frit t ai clear that it was liindamenially a nd essentially a intslestatiots of society ut large. By the Print: l lde rh'ed to I.lale, Illat 11t was entitled to nil ullegience free Constitutiou. To support porserve that upon which the l a w w e s t al teed at Hail shortly after from liiiii. Dow, then, did their l.nrdlillys Olean to rrceduni it had keening. necessary ` at o l 1.9 WiPely tieCep. the Reioltoion, offices of* trust and poster were ex. II act ? Nl..ould they, in the first moaner. repeal the I seri) at a former period :u cutlet laws exc ludin g I eluded from the Catholics. It was fn: molly en- existing laws, and then call for securities to guard the ,at from power. A variety of . Acts a ct e d that no man Amnia sit on the Throne who agentet the evil which they weir tireaot to revel— passed colac e eirently at the time, but unite of was a Proteataigt—it aas a tieCk 6 l 6 %aty part of the securities, too, which they must see were 1111.:Itit them erre of that fuod.inentul and essential mechanism of the wise arratigetnents of their s l ices- factory In the party givnig awl the petty tokiug maitre which they were represented to be. tors, that whets they established the Throne Ilium a thern ? It was titi old indent) o fthat oliat was If they were, how did it Implicit thin so many of basis exclusively pactmaut, thoy riopom protect eith difficulty gamed wes easily t skeit away, notes* I them had bee.' eitace modified or repealed ? that Sovereign Islam the ogeticy of Boman Ca • upheld by strenuous titian. , fie wou ld a pply this (/—By the Act of Settlement, 110 perSiiii thaliC advisers, t ither ill lass Councils or 111% Par- niuxiiii to this questimi, and say, that ii less they holding en office of trust tinder the Crown could liatneatats. Ti,,, tlacy e ffectuelle slid—they did at reniaiiied fire' ut their post, they would live to see have it seat its Par ledliamThe 'ent—t mi het lt d Act was sho rtly the Itevolu t M e —they dial at the Union is ith Seot• the day when they elimild suffer for i heir supineness. uftertverds repea. et he Pivy laud— they dill it, lie might add, at the Union with It was an old end good coestentioar , ! titexiiii, that Comiro, in the Manlier it was secured by the Bill Ireland, bar iii all three they effectually recognised frceilion was d•spensed is' all uteri at this realm, SO iof Itielos, was also shortly repealed. The Trien. the great pi nu iplt aof the ilevialution. Thr ques- long HS they acksioaledged tilt *Nut inacy of the vial Bill, altering isi feet the constitution of Par. !ion was now, whether, after the experietare they Coestitutien, lost that such as did net as..kilowledge I Waiver, was repealed in the first sal King G e orge I. haul of the practical lalessiegs or a ...taw,u which, its gopromar s , !sad no reason kr comp4iiii of its ex. n measure difficultly justified at the time by strong dispensed more civil liberty dials any other which clusion.—( the/Canutelene, ear.)—lii. uosn finis persuasion necessity, but which in its future tendelicy had had rear yet iis atiy . ttge or notion e xisted, they was, that itution of this (wintry wet ad. had, as he thought, a most urious effect.— would !WOW at readiness to revert to the Situation in inirably adapted to the stale of Vie 'Tonle. It All those Acts had been suers sslvely repealed, which they study adore the enactment of those se- orotected those who supported HS well as those who i 11 11 51 Yet that Noble and Learned Lord had talked Intary laws, There were, lie tad heard, legal dissented from its prerogetive. The lane it 'lain- Of the Constitution as being ail malienable and doubts started 'won the applicability, or litileed the tallied by its establish:new—the other it protecteal permanent substance. At the Itevolutiou, the right practice, ethe tof the laws ef their teacestors, which by its tOletdlloll. Ile hail 111 r ‘‘aistt .-.1 attachineet of .titian was most steadfastly imaisted upset — were intend e d to secure the Proteetaut Conetitu• for a number of Itoinaii Cathelics, whom he knew would the Nolde and Learned Lord say that this lion. Strange doulds i n deed they were. But lie as Individuals. lie would readily admit the stead- i light Sias the least constitutional of the whole? should hose sooner heard cf the eliscovely of lough. fast lovalty and great claims of their 'ancestors— mid yet that Noble and Learned Lord was one of t tole, even hi tho.e days a fresh iliscoveties in the he would admit them to their full share of ponrec- those who Intd ho objection to lay his unhallowed operations of mental sagacity, than that it were tiara for the exercise of religiate, and haliOtir la the hands upon the rights of the 1 .1111 e, to restrict possible to hold high judicial of fi ce, Lord Chum- cakes of the State, so fir as slat reteesion could be then) of their liberty, though lie could not listen to cellos to wit, us the law new stood, without taking made compatible %sin' the pammount safety of the a may proposition which had for its object the con the oaths re quired by the Statutes of Charlie the Stele. Less he did not wish to da, snore he t mill tint. Istittiiional extrusion of their civil rights ! Was Second and Kilig IV illiem—thut forsooth the les At .•is mils:owed toenail eat late, 111% 661611001's matter- Poiliament to he " ...stopped," to use the legal deinnity Act would shield the takers of such oaths ed little with reference 10 their eruct upon him- term of the Noble and Learned Lord, frem exteed. front the amuse epzeoCe or hit rm Liken (hi-111. Let self. lie lidt hini-ell bound i n that ing the bison s tn a of liberty, lay the tarovi sio such opinion prevail, th ma man can sit r ims either he saw little silence of their beiea altered noel the sionista . the laws to which lie alluded ? The tiernla. Muse of Parliameto, without previously qualifyong Church of (Leine gave a loritial mad soleinn comes- oency of the provisions of those laws was shaken himself hav taking the necessary oaths. rr If Ilitre diction to those doetriiiss v.. hall Wrre l' e , be the Stilist-ainelat GleiS—their rr i n t a ngilislity" eves be it Man in this House," sat his Lordship, " who ilaisgerous to the safety of tails community—al-es set ut rest by the Milne eritelion. The authority of' has not taken those oaths, if I shall s err count him trines which lie could lint dwell oral ultlinsit b• ing ( Lord s and Venerable name had been resorted to liardwirke's) to supptirt the Noble and as one of your Lertldiips in a disision, let toe be sali•fied of their dangerous telidency upen t h e ialpearlicrl, as I should deserve, for' that act."—) e xisting laws. Ile must, therefore, give hi- decided Leerned Lord's view of this question. To the It was indeed s a id, that lawyers were disqualified uppositimi to the motion of the Nettle Lord. ductriaie leial 'loan by that great authority lie ex limn being gouil politicians, and that politiciatis Earl GREY coMmeneed hy stapes, Ilse he knew pressed his full igeo.ent. But lie was at a loss to see a eic often mote accomplished lawyers than lawyers lint to w Isom t h e N o la n L e d iti, a uti to apply h is the reason for the ietroductem of that authority at aCC.4upli-licil l o o liticlaw., Li e this as it way, lie I °I/SCR -1 1 1011 of there being some lailltWISOS who j thiS liloilielit. The real question was maw, whether would still continue to ley down to politicians what I fancied II.: anselves greet lawyers, ulthongli at the I the COIIOIIOI COOld with safety to the Constitution h e enese i en ter te le b e li eve d to h e t h e 1 irs o f th e I Same time, they would not admit lawyers to be 1.9• i be toltuttted to the enjoyment of those privileges land—a loch was, nett every mats in the State owed liticiane. Ile eilanitt.rl Ilea lie had often l'earit i from which they were debarred by former laws, allegiance to the King, 101 the acknowledged heed I that the t ec h n ical h a bits of lawyers ielider..il theist enacted under 'rusticities circumstances? The re of the State—to speak i n the old' l ata guage of the unfit for taking an enlarged stew if a great 'oatmeal stall must lure upon Aye or No to that proposition. law, that both " the spirituality and the laity " question. There were Institut - esti) which this had been The Protestant establishment, oil the principle of its sawed him obeiliseee. The language of the old the (*use. Bid lie knew there were other installers top present basis, was funned at the R e volution. Some o f statutes was in a similar tone; for "the epiritti. which lawyers had appeared pet-eminent as pelt- the Acts passed helot-rand some after the Bei:Aural . silty" was them s ubject to nobody, under God, tit:isms ; IRA ill Illetlitan th e i es talice of else hailivi. aThe Corporratimi Art mid the Test Act were very than his Majesty. It was historically admitted, dual (we ' , rebottle ilr, Po 1111 l 'thy ), these star Ilea inittostant to shrw the object of the L eg i s lature e t that at the time when those laws were enacted, there of another, is cently swept halm society (Sir Sa- the iime. The Test Act was directed ugainst the existed many distinguished Cutholic families, whose roue) lionells). who war, (ale i'l Ilia grrairSt, the Duke of fork, the next heir to the Throne; it was loyalty was indisputable; but the characters o f best, mi d mos t mo i e ble men t h at ever existed— selected for tetuporel purposes, the necessity of those families, high as they t u,doubtedly were, were I whose ktsow ledge of the 1.6 w, in the trimly of which I which had for years ceased to e xi s t. It was i n th e yet instifficient to exruret them from the Illml-'lain a lie had beets waste, road of which lie was she [night- reign oh the 30th Charlee 11. that Cetivileas were of those penuities into which C r doctrine of their sat ornemenr, was on ly exceeded by los kuoaledge excluded from holding settle in the two Hoeses of church h ad immersed them. Chief Justice ll.sle, of the Constitution, mid los ardent love iii liberty Perlistnetit. The, was the Act which the Noble whose name would be remembered so longas law I KIM clitlaililed philanthropy for prontaltatig the gatori i and Learited Lord seemed to thick a measure of i ., t heir infl uence utnoi "witty, as- fir his rellOW.ereatUlTS-.-a Mao who atioliell llie l ieu- dellherallife WI-dOlll Had prospective cement. If and relieion held serted, that the omit prescribed hy law, et and oilier lebOoli or the law. 1111 1 1 supplied it tan the Iwnetit of the Noble and Learned Lord could express his ma nse Itevolutioie included, as did Assays the oath of 1111111k11111,111111 Wll O . 111 116 C midst of the toils of his a tunialinsent sit certalti oirialions uponpoints o f l am , allegiance iii its proper bens?, the oath of frailty i legel studies, applied marl exercised his knowledge I hus e nut excuse him (Earl Grey) front reseclinitig mid a profession of homage. That oath, as II de in the elueidatem o f the great in inciples of cavil p the expression of that ustonishinent at hearing had aptly expressed it, did not create, but rtioin 1 bud relieions liberty.—(llear, hear, hear., l -lle 14 lawyer of his reek uttribute the praise which an obligation to renounce the Pope's doctrine of q (Earl Gar)) WWI ant there to discuss a question lie did to the Act of the 30111 of Charles Supremacy, and restore the true and co mplete of law iii hthe Nolde mid Leareed Lord on the p the Second. 1)141 lie not know that than A c t doctrine of allegiance in its full and proper s en se . %Voolsack, whit ae la-gal qualifications laid all. was pressed, mad j ustified, end carried, upon the It was i irtj et d outi to d a t e thi s d octrine to t h e t i me of thatily hie was most willing in admit. But io tilts apprehensions excited by the plots of Oates mud Henry VI IL It was die doctrine ante common law I place, where a Peer had to decide upon mixed slues- 8e , 11,1e, rat the ex ietelice of which no man cal the of England at all dines. Lord Coke, in his Tree. turns at law Hod 1101 . 11 . 1 e s, Ike hail to deflend 111“111 poeseiat day belleved? That Act was founded u p on tise,upots the Laws of Eelwatd I 1 I. recites a statute iau the lights which tits own studies m a d undeistaniling the belief ut the time in the scandalous plots of which the Bishop of Norwich was cilhailied (end i famished him, an d oil such occasions to speak both these wretches. After the Revelutiou, in the 3d though lie was specilicailly named, the statute Was the Ida/ mot the polio) with that freealeani which be. p of I‘'illieni and Marv. Catholics were excluded latitude(' for ull other Bishops) to keep iu reunsui. I came L e gisletms al i o were determitiell to dtscharge from voting at electimas. In the first elf George 1. brance his duty, that all his authority was de. their duty to their country. Ile was, therefore, the Act ',weed tor disqualifying them from I n told. rived from the common law or customs of the I prepared, notwithstanding his rest) , et for the No- i leg civil and inihtary (Aces. 'l' he reason of this land, or the statutes, and that lie must not for. a ble a nd Learned Lord's capitate' upon matters of phaw Ives, that a powerful party had afforded shelter get his obedience to the Crown. This was the I Isis, to contest settle of the positions which he abroad to the family exiled Irani the lliroste. old principle of the law, tied he should feel had laid down in the course el . iii, Speech. The I They had adliereot a boils in England and on the ashamed of himself if le could for one ono- Noble and Learned laird had now, as on lair- COlllillelit. Besides this powerful combination meat entertain u doubt upon its ,amity. God rues questions, set wit with demanding edmissi 111 l ti, of ciscuitistisoces, there was then among Pro forbid th a t l ie s h ou ld t renc h u p on the r i g ht w h ir I i whim 11, If acceded to, put an rod to the whole tines- testanta, what there war trot 110W+ a general belief in this free country every men had to worship his lion. Ile lius told the I louse that they must Hank I that Catholics held unsocial doctrines, which the C a . God iii his own way ! but there was a wide differ- the Comae utioa to he fuoilimentelly and elowl;. tholics of the present day had hang since disclaimed. race between this spirit of toleration, and the eon- hilly Protestent, anal that every thiug whielt hail '1 lie circutioomices that had culled fur the measures (erring a civil right which went to seeder all the a tendency to t - tal mo , iCh 111/1 , 11 the slimes:navy of of which the !Llamas; Catholic* now justly mane. laws of their ancestors nugatory. Sat long as the that church, must ha. protested ageinst as owe- I plained, had long since ceased to operate—there- Catholics denied, as by their doctrines they did, pedietat and madanissail.• h Ile omild cuseetill that fore, lie contended, that those Penal Laws w e re the King's supremacy, so 101 l did they disentitle I the Noble and Leursied Lord haul hot deafly no longer s ieceseely, awl there could not he themselves to the phi privileges they claimed. The lead theta awl exidanied alert w a re i n fact the 1 1 1 , the butanes' jet of dengev apprehended to the Noble and Le lied 11,or) sin quota cl the opinion testaist establishment. To come to a lee-rise ult. Throne from their lepeal. The reasons which iis- (Need their ancestors to adopt tlatn, did tint et present urge their continuance-and the same policy that established the Revolutioo on general principles of freedom, required that that freethon slintild be extended to the Catholics, with respect to whom a system of exclusion was no longer sue cessary, and therefore was most unjust and in v . jorions. In the history of the enactment of some of those laws, feelings woolillse found to hove operstee, of a character very different front thugs which were adverted to by the Noble and Learn:l Lord; There was au Act passed in 1699, of the most severs description, the history of which might serve 10 Phew the iiieccuracy of what the Learned Lord stated with respect to the calm and delib-rate wisdom which always marked the enacting of these Lose In 1699 a law was passed, which prevented tithe. lies from taking property by devise Of by purchase. Now lie called ou their Lordships to mark the tem per and spirit in which that law was enacted-a lei %shoal, et that time, formed one of the securiiies nt Ilie Constitution, and which, if the Learnisl argument were good for oily thing, mind lie tdkeii as part or that fundamental settlement which ea, then establisl.ed. What did Bishop nureet ray of the wormer in which this law was passed' " Those," he observed, " who brow; ht the B ill into the Ulonse of Commons, booed the Court would oppose it ; the Court, however, (I.liii-tolitig nn the hostility of the Lords, acceded to It. - ‘l'llen the projectors of the measure eta , their mistake, they ensiled In stifle it, and Met 1111(1111 it with unreasonable clinses, in the hope that the Lords would not agree to it. Tile The, lippwever, passel! the Lords, without rumiaimeio, their Lordships being piqued at the ciiiiilii• t of Ili.: Commons." Speaks.;; of this transaction, Mr. Burke said, "Thus were the CAliolica ("adellsith &pulite injustice, proceeding from two parries who, as If they were merely playing with cu t er and balls, nude a sport of the hues and f a tones of their fellow-subjects." They eere boand, therefore, to take, with a little caution, the ussertirm of the h earse d Lord, that thus- laiis w e re careltilly aial deliberately cousidered ; Cast. Lercl•hips could not, lie conceived, consistently with their knowledge of this fact, give to ',taw., Wild, were enacted in this way, all the weight which the Learned taunt %virtual to he attisched to them. Toe great objection to the Roman Catlioliea arose from, Ist, a rupoosed connexioti of the Catho lic religion with an attachment to that family which alarmed the thintie-aud ld, a belief that particular tenets in that religion were um Only hos tile to all free governments, but were at variance with the very existence of society itself, and, there. fore, were not to be tolerated. He would umitelet, that there causes did not now exist-and, when the circumstances which gave rise to t h at jealme.y or suspicion in the minds of their ancestors, aloite could warrant such enactments, had ceased, it was the height of injustice to contioue laws, the ticemasily for which did not exist. 'ft, Learned Lord had quoted the audio. its of Mr. Locke in support of his urgument, and the sani course bad been pursued by a Rev. Prelate ;the Bishop of Worcester), who preceded lam. Bill he bad been ro completely answered by Ida Noble and Learned Friend (the Bishop of Norwich), who, in Ins opinion, and in the opiitioti of mill unbiassed men, did honour to himself, and conferred a be nefit on the religion which lie professed, by the mild, and tolerant, and consequently Chrisiian•like view which he took of this subject, that he need scarcely take up their Lordeliios' time liv observation on the subject. Yet lie raiuld not for bear making our remark on what had What fsom the Learned Lord, when lie quoted M . Locke'• au thority, in favour of those extilissions. 1V heii :he i Learned Lord cited that g reat arson's opinion is I support of exclosioos, wined: were media to defend the religious establishments of this country, tits he prepared to mho the whole of his tortilios. (tinier opinions which lie had studied so diligetitly), with respect to religions estatalislittients, generally It' lie would go so fir, then he (Earl (arey) seta ld trimly to the Iteverend Bstich opposite-so nume rously arrayed, to join, this night, as lie fear ed, to purporting the prisciples of the Learn ed Lord-end lie would ark them, did they also hold the same - terititneats ? He believed they would answer in the negative. Next, when 'lie Learned Lord cited this grave opinion in bivour the exclusion of the Catholic., lie would ask, sits be ready to adopt Mr. Locke's opinion us iii their religium ? The belief of Mr. Locke, of Lord Somers, and of other great men, et the time of ilia Revolution, was easily accounted for-and, lie Inn' no doubt that they acted from a conscientious feel ing. But did the Learned Lord mean to proles., at this day, that there were any Catholics, $$ ho main• tensed the opinion that faith was nut to be kept with heretics-that Piinces, excommunicaieii by the I'ope, forfeiter! their Crown -or that the Pape could discharge (tom their allegiance, the siiiriects stf Princes who had refused to adhere to the Coisiiic re ligion? Did the Learned Lord In !iris that Hoy mei: Catholics were now in existeoce Ile khra that !.e could not declare so moostrous aii Mon to which experience gave the most decal , . contradiction. The Leerited Lord slated, that I:. had not heard from any competent entholity m nir Church of Rome, a roll:arm diselititner of ihiesi opinions. What disclaimer would he have ? The r uptowns were denied by the Romeo Cetholi , • themselves-by the oaths which the Legislate, • had imposed on dorm-and by ,he declaratiiiii the principal Catholic I:invert:dies. The es.- • ence of those opinions was the ground oil wits' the principles of Mr. Locke were founded and, sit, he, in every part of his works, promos gated the most geoetal principles of tulenoisii —as lie advocated, 10 the fullest extent, Its right to a fire and culiecientious discharge of re logo:rub duties-his authority was, in fact, feint's'' file to the cause of the Roman it.: war it favourable ? Because the grounds oil whi" the exception with resirect to the Rionau proceeded, laded altogether at the present and failiog, the exception itself most fall to Is , ground. Therefore, lie felt that he 41001 C the geio-ral principles of Mr. Locke nit G sour of time 'present motion. Tiw Learned laird !"' viewed, to the most extraordinary light, the rein authoritter to which he had referred. to • priticiples of the Revolution, in the Bill of 1t , 6 1 t" in the Act of Settlement, he could God nit luny favour of liberty-brit, in the laws substtpeeti: passed, he could find various reasons fur a rite:" (II 111 'OS 1M