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Y five o'clock. The following are the names of the Members nominated to serve on THE BRISTOL COMMITTEE: E. B. Portman, lames Dawkins 1t0... .1. F. Campbell W. E. Powell lluch Seyenotor G R. Dawson Hon. G. 1. Cole It. Franco Lord W. H Reutitict W Newton IV. T. Money N•r A. Don T. - Pares Earl of Alount.Charlea ♦V. W. Wili:. THE WORCESTER COMMITTEE: Hoderick Macleod, Jos COPP" Lord G. W. Russell $. N. F.: %linty lion. Rob.•rt Smith .1 Brom/Aiwa Hon. R. Neville Moo Dundee • C. E. Rumbold Robert Frankland Alciaamter Waring C. R. Phillips Viscount A Ithorp Earl of March T. F. Lewin. DEFAULTERS. On the motion of Mr. BATIIVIVIT. it wan ordered that the Etym.., of the defaulter. u this dey's ballot be called over READING ELECTION. PIIIITIVOItt, presented the Report of the Cons moire appointed to deride on the Petition of William Graizer. Esq. all others, against the Return for Readitio. The C.rmmittee ilerided that Ch a rl e s Frio. Palmer, F... 1 was dots elertrkl a Bitrgrs,l lu scree in the present Parti.i rn at fur the Roiling', of Reading—that the Petition was not frvaluns or "confirms—and that the opposition was nut It 4111:4:10, Ur vexations. SUN ona LANn N AVIGATION IB.L. %Ir . R. ittlialtruX prewsitril ten Pi lilloue (tom Ship. olh•ra. couttoried•nnt the Port of Sunderland, a k ....nost ilw above Bil).. Sir G. COI 11111/RN6 (is we understood) presented a Pe. Who' its favour of it . Un Ihr mutton nr Mr. T.nynrox, the Bill tile rrAli the reentiit time The Hun. Grailleman Ihen utu% " "fivi I the Bill he euntmittr.l" . Mr R. Wtisavou said, he fdi how unpleasantly situated of that llouse moat be, who rose to Ili au the at. Seidl in Of fienlb torn to a measure of this aatore, when au flinch hosiness of a publ.c 'Ettore stand for theritusiton. But the private fill flea brollell fo•wsiul UPS of Snell VI at importance, it operated so deeithdly sgaiust the rights of and was an marls opposed to the existing l.a it the Isnil, that lie would ant do justice to his einistitnenta soil the COlllllll at large, if be did nut take the very earliest opportunity to oppose it The Hill was iutended Ws. peal n. 1.1 nmend the 411th of his Majesty, and it contained other prat isiona for 11w there clauses which it professed to mo dify. The alterations would be most mischievous, since is the first imitatier sine of skein went to take f individuals Ow right of minor their property in the way MINI heneecial to Urns—a right never disputed. unless it 'Weil . ..red with the public good. Another part of the new provisious relat t•d to the placing of Iniond-.tunes, or, as they were there I. mord, awricxtun. 0, fur the 'impose of ascertaining the high. wourr.mark in the river Weir—and by the Rill now before She Mane, a dangerous power would lw granted with re. steel to the mod.• of placing thim. The mogul Bill differed essrtthany f the 4911$ of the Kiwg. That Art del Illott the Cumn•i.si..nera shall nos infra's* e. ith any s tnia s r‘f Ilion. for the lauding of coals) that had h built for a certain time." The Bill proposed by the I lonoinsbl. Geo leman said, " That spays or staid's formed b. fore the At t of the 19th of the King shall not he inter- Erred with by the Commissioners now appointed, unless"— •.hat ?—" sinless they shall have been reported tin lay the Commission. ry within the itsl iwg ten yearn"—from the hof iht. King to the present lime. So Ant, if a Report b••cn tirade within ten years, the Commissioners bud only lu produce Ilya pl:.er, and to pull down any quay or st alilmozh She owner hail derived it f his ancestors. The existing Art, which he wished to he coilimord, prr ..rrrrsl, all quays, staishs, &e. erected prior to its courts/trot—hot the sow Pill disckised it Trey dilfrrriot prin. tip's.. Under the former Art five Comuits,„ , er ., fist iat,i a epturaspi, awl there was no necessity for thew 11/ ;lye not tee of Up it meeting. This provision was contained tit the pre sent Rill, so that they mi:lit meet private'y, make what re ports they pleaud, and &amity, without roishril, the pros lien' , of any Gentleman or Nobleman. The former Act t krth, that 'very maw might trill gamy% and staitlis, provided he :nee the Commissioners two usonilis imtice,aiol that the erections did not operate as a substantial hindrance to Ilse oat input ~,, of the Risco. Weir. The law stood in this essay, and its propsely never was impeached, up to the last --reson , r—sod it was then impeached, beanie a Wattle •RII r. rt. el in the noire of that year, under the provisions of tber Act. The Coenneisesoners ordered it to he polled down, mid a few stones were taken away, in cedar to bring wilt itemise to .:one by a sad at law. The cause was tried at the Assires L.foar Mr. Jessitext Bayley, mid it was decided, I hat In, sufret lion of the esistmg statute haul tales., place. A use heal was moved fur, and the !mulct's of the Court of Klett's Bench confirmed the decision which hash taken place ct the Asses, s. Still, however, this particular staith had level eerie*, .1 1111-•111.1 the very first art of the Commis. stitusiooers, Ike INCV4sit Bill were passed, would he to pull down ship welly, which the Court of King's Bench had ele etseed to hr lawfully erected, an it did teem intelfne with Hoe Heir of the river. --"we, bear ./.... 1 81411'r II ra.SLIM Art, the C friVilOiltra were sodomised to place wir e, fur the ptirinme of asccetsmeng the hizle.water.malk e,l the rwer.--tint latterly, mislead of placing stones In point cut highemater.marit, the-y were put in situations that hail nothitic to elo wills it. Those stones wrre plated sheer the luieldas d A mule ranee, abort% covered a space that hail always Imen supposed to belong to Ate Isitelmsore—ur suhere She w ultra %err Pm ea el by eel &unbolts y site ing.floods— and CV, who ie• they in lay came, finless the 'Tumid way over t) el ley tome nee minion circumstance. They were ties fix. ed, whore perbnius some incidental &mil had occurred 25 ur 30 years m.ro--and in bridal% were pre-vetoed from making IrrlTlloll/ 1)Py01111 them, env their owe. lands. This Bill was n..s culled for by the ship.owners of Sundt Hind. nor by the peat beet of Conemissioners, umler the existing Art The ore Hawses, when drawls op, were laid b. fire lawyers, who deebeed t h at Parliament would nut agrer to dem. out of ISA Commissioners of the Sunderland Navigation, hut 22 (belieding the lion Genilemao (Mr. lansibtem) who, be be her' d, haul tom le fait nclyd all a Cumaiiseiuner, mud some of his friends) attended when the new clauses were cuitside red. CM it ebtimillil 12 of t h e Commiesioners voted for the clauses, mud IM against sin that they were tarried by a neje,. city of two. 1:t• ~ hoisld he surly if et contd he said, that a single isdividna had raised his voice aganast • measure supported by the slip-owns.,. and the :treat body of the litimmissionerr—but the fact lay the oil.. r way—it was, in truth, the project of a veiy few parsons. The Learned Gentleman cumin led by moving—" That this Bill be toms gaited this day six months." Sir G. Cocsukase said, list Petition he had picsettica, in favour Of MC Bull, •34 s.uo.erunsdy , Igaell by respect able ship-own. ra. The port of Sunderland was of very r. -eat 111410 r ias.c r., and he feared that many erections um the sever 1% . 4-o• would dead to its destruct' . Ile therefuee b ;zed of the House to consider well Wore they rejected dies Kill, He wished to impress on the House the Import sore of ibis subject, and the consequeut necessity of ma i u ie deliberation. Generally speaking, the banking and elicroaching co rivers, were prejuillieial so them, a remain stauee that might mu tie be lost sight of in considering this question. He hoped the Bill would be intend to go to a Committer, where alone they could deride un the needs of the ease, and declare which party was right and which wrong._ . . . . _ Mr. taxa - toy said, there were one or two points in the wprtch of the Learned Gentleman (Mr. tVharion) which he had it in his poser positimly to contradict The Learned Gentleman Ibat this was not the Bill of the Com- missisinera of the post of Sunderland, but of a few indi riduals—and iee had alluded *eyelid times to him (Mr. lamb►uu? as alit were the antis'sr of it. Now lie had no iiiterest whateve► in it. He merely brought it is s Member for Darharti, as he had a right to do, when he conceived it accessary to introduce a 111r11/111 , ' beneficial for Simile,land, or fur any other town in the count). Instead of only RS C o istruissiunera being present when it was agreed In, there were between 41) and 50—atial so far from the members be ;,,g on ei l nally billmctil as 12 t i 10, it lien the mostion uss put, only three hands svPre lold op nail's! it—lboce of Hine Messrs, Pemberton. at +aurae desire the Learocal Gentleman opposed the Bill. The Learned Gentleman had spoken of the great injnry that would be sustained, if iniUciduapa were le ...- vented from erecting staiths on the river. Hut he *tolled to ask, if the river were thus Offered to he lock. rt up. whit would become of the valuable property on its banks' To prove that erections of the nature of those. the growth of which was !naught to be restrained by the present Hill, nee :options to rivers star their junction with the sea, the Ilnu. Member quoted the authority of Mr. Rennie and Mr. Jessup, which, he observed, was still further supported by the statemeut of the Hon. Gentleman who hail joist spoken. He admitted that, in the case to which the Learned Mem ber •Pudeil, a verdict was given aganist the Commissioners --hut it was (minded no the strict letter of the law, and certainly was not guided by its spirit. With respect to the removal of the ineirAlunes above the place which the tide usually reached, it was very trite. Hut bow came they there? They new piivniely refried away in the Maitl— and, when the eirenmsiance was mentioned at the Meeting of the Commissiontr , , certain individuals not Holy acknow ledged the fact, hot attempted to justify it. Mr.WiIARTON disclaimed the at atimient of the Mimi:mi lkman, that be stood rot ward no this ocrahon at Ills lull(f any P"r‘011. it was most imparlianientary for any Gentleman to tray, that another appeared iu his place iu that House, and supported a particular question, lietani , e lie was directed by alone person to do so. But those who had known bin much, longer that; the Hun. Gentlemso did (hr meant by character, for be was not aetpiainteil with him), would li;lieve him wheu lie said that he would not disgrace the Chaelleire or a lertilter of Parliament by accepting HI such a deputation. Ile did not deserve suet, a remark, and lie repelled the imputation with scorn —(Order, Order LAIIIITON—u With efvert to the oh-creation vela. live to the adopted by the Learned Meador on this (mission, I used it, in conacipience of Mr. Pemheiniii hav ing hinted RA ninth to nie Imunelf. He stated to me that the cause would he taken lip by die Learned 3lroslier, upon ninon I meant to cast ini impui coon. As to the scion of which lie speaks, I throw it indigo:hilly back to Imo (lien?, bear.) Mr. iVRARTO,4-.." I appear here not for an holivhlonl, hot for my ronstiineow, aml I treat with the *4'olll it de. serves auy tminuathm to the cantrnry."—(Order, order ') Mr. TAYLOR (a• we out,ler.h...il) etiortleo el bin elf looode to the Bill—nod declared that he would take the ►ewe of he Mole on it. The House then divided, %twit Ihrrr upprartol— For the ('ottlmiltee Agaiuit it 51A.iorily for the Ri11.... 2 BOROUGH OF BARNSTAPLE. The SP TIER intimated, that it was memory something should be done with respect to staying the new ‘Vrit for the borough of Bartistaple. Lort! CLIvo moved. :l 11 of the Siwaker do not ismie his warrant to the Cleo k of the Crown to make out a uew 11'1.4 for the borough of Barnstaple. WI this day tenniglit."—Agreed tu. PENRYN. Sir C. Buttan.L b Slu in a Bill Tor preventing of bribery and corruption in the election or Mem bers to serve in Parliament for the Horoubtli of Penryn, County of Corowall, which was read it first time, and ordered to be read a second time uni Friday, the o f April. . . . . . The Set:AKER their said he wished to 41711 W the attention of the I louse to the Bill in iieetion. It had liven read a tirst time, and a day Axed for the second reading. It had formerly livers the practice oil introducit ' o , disqu ali fying Mils to give notice to oil the ioilividutrie interested. and in wrote late inqatices all the parties concerned had been exa mined as in the truth of the facts alleged against them. It was therefore for the House tu con sider whether* copy of the Bill should not be vent down to the Borough tirevious to the second reading. In the case of the Bill respecting the Borough of Hindon, a copy had been served on each indi vidual concerned. The nature of the one before the House was not such as to require th a t th a t should he done ; but it was probably advisable that a copy should be sent to the Mayor or Returning ()Ricer, with directions to give public notice or the time of the second sending. Lord CASTLLREAGH thru niored, that 4 copy of the Bill should he *erred on the l'ortrreve or Ite. turning Officer of the Borough, with directions to affix a nonce of the time heed for the sec I read ing tits the Church stud market-Wow door of tilt woe. Mr. WYNN &I not we the ah.olute 'termite of the step proposed. but at the home tome wisp willing to agree to any measure that argued II regard fur thebberbes of the people. The SPLAKER said, "he wished to stand right in the opinion of the House respecting Ilse course he had suggested. All former Bills list come within hit. knowledge wrist to disfranchise certain itislivi victuals, and berme adopting thrsis the House had thought tit to give notice of their totentions to Allow italivicluak. lie had not known whether that circtinrisince wes in the reeolbction of Members, and hail then-lore thought it right to mention it, hooting that the House might think it lititog to tske none similar step, though the object of the present war different front that of forms r Hills. Sir A. Pinnort thought it right that all per sons whose nghts should lie affected by the Bill should be apprised of its provisions. Sir C. BURRIIII.I, acquiesced in the propriety of the course recommended. If the nearest prece dents were to .be fulloweil strictly. there were not less than two hundred and fifty iodtvidualsou whom it would he necessary to serve notice. The motion was then auresst to, AMERICA Lord CASTLIAZAGiI Lad mom the topple a copy of the Convention couelutlea boatels ths. Country and the United Stilts* of Anseriea. The Noble Lord •toted, it a UOi Isis inteutiott to make any remarks upon the Treaty at that liaise. It "maid he lieeebaisry to Ming in a f ail for the purpose of ear ryiug the ipr.ivi•ituei of it nito cleat, at which Olin they might be dt► r uysed. A statement of idler xisemes incurred in the sap port of l'euiteiliNtry Howse% within a certain period was ordered to be laid before the ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE IN INDIA. Mr. Hume rose, puttuant to muter, to move for (Titans, Papers relative to the Adintiii-tration of Justice in the dominions of the E. c.t l ain (7mm piny.oiling that the l'apris sve,e mot likely to be objected to by the Prrtitieot of the Baird of Coistrot, as lie was toot prepared to take an exten sive view of the subject, lie thought he should act wisely cud prud.•ntty at, inertly snaking one or two obsetvations. He %v.'s noxious, then, that the Iloure should model...taw' hit the whole judicial spurn of India had bre', completely tricorpretent. ecl In this country; the people home were in per fect ignorance of the adialitivdr,a ion of jo.tier, m i t end criminal, and the tosiingeolesit of the ',toilet there. 11hat be should state was not derived from rourcet Of priv,:te iiiforinalimi, but from official paper• laid un the table long since. The Iteport of the Committee of 1810 shrived the magnitude of the evil 1114 would requite the Collected W 1 .410 111 Or the I !owe to provide is reinrily far ; nod he Wit% sure, that It Members %sere i t , the informalinis contained Milts papers he move for, they would resiltly apply themselves to Ike discovery of one. At the pirsr.,r mmuem, its4l fur twelve years pest, the ilrfrt•te of the Jos &tried stlonmstrstinn in nor po•aestemis were esiormons. Civil justice was dewed—lines were imposed on the strphrattots of distils for the redress of tlietr w suitors we►e. compelled to pal• an the ima,4 they sought to recover, st the rate of from .50 down to I per cent. That such was the fart appeared from the Resolutions of 1813, oil the Lble— owl when, he should state that the claims the !greatest number of persons whip want tutu Ilie Courts to compel the vsynietit of debts, were for small sums under one lintitlreil te , u ude, that the fees on entering their causes, aril- not less Ihan eight or ten per cent.—that the stamps re. tpured iti the proceedings sv.allowell up windier lornportion of the original ilematiii, awl the fees to lawvt•rs sti!l toner. The lion.•• won't! cee that the inhabitants of those distant regions could ont ob tain that justice which was deuit out lir Ihrtn cutler the Native hinces. But, moreover, thousstols soil tens of thous:Hots of cases were lying in the C to there tinitleriited—soil the some Resolutions stated, that a term.mition of then could nut be rsorco.ol in the t•outre of the. longest Itfe. The consequences of these things was en increase of crones in Bengal, a n d sixty millions of people were rendered less just in their dealings, mu d l ea moral in their conduct. I Its object was sot to censure inditiolnals, but to expose the evils lif the sy►trst. The plan Inid down for the administration of justice by the Marquis Cornwallis, in the year 1793, had been adopted in some districts, rod rejected in others, so that there was a want of uniformity, which was also a serious evil. He thought he laid said entomb In induce the Hou►e to assent to his proposition, and should therefore more float there be laid before the House copies or extracts of all dispatches Iron the Court of Directors ol• the East India Compatiy to the local authorities, respectiong the administration of justice in their dominions, civil mod military, and the police establishment, loom the veer 181 U to the latest time the same 4111 be made up. The question having been put, Mr. CANNTNI) said, he did trot thiok it nPetP. wiry to follow the Hon. Gentlemen through till his observations. especially as he saw no reason to refsi.e his assent to the production of miy papers which would really promote his object. Much difference of opinion had certainly irevailed among able men out the system of judicial administration established in tint indeed respecting its intrinsic excel lence, of which there could not be much &mist, but respecting its applicability to the people for whose use it had been there introduced. He ac knowledged that he had not himself formed a de cided opinion on the latter point; but whatever might be thunglit on it, he was sure that in spy watching a system which had the sanction of the great flame of the Marquis Cornwallis. end on the establishment of which his repntation principally depended, every Member ought to speak with diffidence.—(llear, hear.)—He felt with the Ho nourable Gentleman That the proceedings of the legal authorities in India should be kept under the vigilant sionetiotroidence of the 'sowers at home r and dist was the least pledge fur their correctness and purity : rod on that ground he had no objet. firm to agree to a few of the lowers desired b r the 111,11. Gentlemen. Ile hail looked over his list mid selected four as fully vinyl-y . lm( all the information oecessary. Had hr.. indeed, desired to thwart the I 100. Gentleman in his views of inquiry and investi. gallon, lie would have emoted to laying all the papers on the table, for he could assure hint they were MO voluminous he should never be able to get through and give the House the benefit of his ob servations on them. Ile then stated, that the pspers hi had Need on were those specified in the the first, second, third, and seventh motions. Lord APORPITH gave it is his 'teeniest opinion, that however the Government of this country might heap expenses oti the inhabiters's, and crush the Native States of Indio, hopes of * pernoment do minion there could Indy be footitird oil the establish- Mg of a mild mid equal siitstinistrotion of justice. Sir W. BURROUGHS said, that in ii.Ct no justice whatever was to be procured by the irativey of India, la Coe the system iiiiroduced by the Marquis Coro wulii,. The illlrt.llllClinii broach tl spite4ll (excel. lead as it was) rim al place where there was no i t s... lice berme, and 00 provision for liar distill utiu,, of must have been attended with difficulties: meriallpigly, its progress bad oat been so florid us the se who foresaw the beneficial results of its ge could wish. But the progress fool heel' as great a. could be expected, and had trot only gutsily cokti dotted to the good order sod hap. pities' , of the pr(ll.le subject to the Kodiak autho rtt , but had pri•cored a respect Isir our govern mum. eocosiis g etl ratio-idiots from other dis tricts. The ..y.tellit war yet only ill Its iiifititey, 1411,1 greater Iwo. tits than Nov yet extort icsictol were to he nuticipated from it. With I•ClTtet to the police-- the impulsions of Calcutta (5,11101(11 of b• V.ll or eight hundred thousand people, mixed lip of v oso• and lii *shoo a It alic of 'miser II to That city, was not a matter of 1.r:11111y ; Icy the ex ertiohs of other todges, sod prima ! , illy himself, an immense i4tproverneiit had been t ll;sciert. Mr. HUME said, he had wished to strike it selec tion of the papers himself, but that the Court of Dtrecturs would not allow him to do go. Ile fli n t ' cited a psseage from s paper on the table, to .Ibeit , the hoih.e., or the police etstem• It staled, that per souls apprehelitled frequently died 5,i prison they were hi ought to an examimitirm. The fin hourable Geotlericin complained that the whol e p o lic e o f Ben g al was carried on by means of spies, the heads of bautlitties pardoned by Government, and let loose to plumier the country. They were encouraged in the pursuit of their occupat 44444 by grants of Money on the conviction of the (pow* (Brads of robbers). So far from economy bring observed i ii the enairitioniug of the judicial system. it cost more in 11111114 1111181 In till Europe. While the whole IPyrisur of Indio was but seventeen oil. linos, the House would scare- ly believe that the judicial admitiittratiiiii cost 1.558.0001. nearly the vie-eleventh part of it. 'ltie lion. Member, in • condo:tor, iii4hlv ludas by Nit. Alai*. eommttaled a pul.iication on 111 r. iltllCllltaStiN Wt., that from the of tit:4l6ll g tip poperoollooe moved for could nut lie exp. vied fat tonne t.ine, Ile tie.r for the purrit..e entail c o.:le:totro the toreetolt" cot imi l ures.islit th e Wind of the Itielitll o o l ti. ta ( k t i i i i 4 - { aoutr tuen.ures themselves, without waiting for the documents, for the adoption of a bett e r .)item of judicial administrat in that extensive country. the 'population of which otos stated to amount to sixty mullion He hail no objection to the pro duction of the papers, but be was desirous that some step might be teheu speedily. Mr. CAN NI! gni& that if lie Well understood the Ilmsour,jible Gentlemen (Mr. Hume) to bare made any crier*. of neglect !against the Govern. ment at bone, he would have felt it his duty to answer his;. The question want s not whether should receive a good adm:oistrative systems to r lattice, but whether the systern they enjoyed was well suited to them. A difference of opinion 114(1 bliflp4 . ll between tery inteitt4ent prrnur , wheth e r thesystros introduced by the Marquis torinvaiii., title of the best of men that ever lived, w:.* ur wit., tint adopted to the wool., eti.isem, nod habits of die inhabitants of India. If the titifr , tiutt de pended on bilut.elf, he was not prepared to say that he would abolish or maintain it. A great improvement had bee; introduced into the pm tier of Calcutta, NIA it might be baked upon as settled. When lie hail said Ilse pairet% were vo. Intniuoua, 6e dui not sown; to censure the lion. Gentleman. lle had ,elected the piper!' that *reined to c..titroivesll the triateri.sl information de. sired, without the etribarnssaing particulars I de. tails, and if they should Ise found insufficient, be was ready to produce athliiimirl ones. Sir W. BUIROUGIII said, that by the proviiimis of our law, natives were excluded from all offices or trutt, honour. nod towel.% There weft about one hundred Judges employed by the COW. puny. all Europeans, each of whom sat seven or 'tt,„tlit hours every day. The minim, was then agreed to. The following vipers were then ordered to he laid before the lln e r : ACC/11111i of the eXpenoit. of the Pol.re Ertrililichment fur the dote Preaidenuva of NI Honda', and Calcutta, I'ro'n 11se year 1792, to the year 11614. Au Account of the amount of the rharce. for the jnairial morn u, the same Preatileurie% for the foilfile perms", sli:issomi.slistsx drat fur each, awl aim. the principal broils of t aprtirliture. INSOLVENCY ACTS. The ATTORNEY.GUN 1„ 11l rising to nave for a Select Committee on the luso' vency Acts (33, 64. and 66 Geo. III.) and the effects thereby Iwo slotted, torrid their hl•tory from the Sear 1813, where the first Act was viewed, to the presto, trine. The principle, hr said, on which they had been founded, was our long recognised in our law ; her it had, fora length of time, been the habit of the country to resort to the expedient or a general hire r:door of debtors on certain conditions. As a sub mit/me for such legislative interferetscr, lie consi dered ilia first Insolvent Act to be a wise soil necessary measure ; sod if it should he totally abolitheti, with the improvements engrafted on it, they would be reduced to the alternative of the former proceeding, which he thought was greatly to be deprecated, ,ir of letting the debtor remain in prison for rte, if the creditor so chose. Of the opponents of the present law, some desired its total and absolute repeal ; others admitted its utility and nrcr••nt, but thought it required 4113- 11fiertion. It appeared to him therefore desirable, that a Committee •hnuld be appointed, to con sider not mint' the effects of the law. but to exa mine into the allegations of the Petitions sent in to the House it. It would be ad mitted to be a most initentant subject of conside ration, when it was reflected that the temporary exprilleut. to ishich lie had alluded had become much more frequent to the latter part of the pre arid reign than during the preceding century, and that it luol been found absolutely necessary• for the !louse to pass such a measure every two or three years. Rot it was certainly much better that the debtor and creditor should know the relative terms ills which they "err to stand in future, at the time the cutitnict war making, which was the effect of the Insolvent Acts. The qUeitioll was, whether it was not preferable to have a law its being of the latter description to letting the old practice continue? It had been made a quesetiou, whether justice had always hero none at the lusolvent Debtors' Court it London. Ile was well acquainted with the re spectable individual that presided there, and he believed, that whatever talents, industry, and to tegrity could effect, had been effected by him. That Gentleman would be more happy at nothing than that his conduct should undergo a most thorough investigation. Possibly improvements might be made in the mode of doittg business in the Court, but that was a lit subject for the consi deratiosi of the Committee. The Right Iluti. Geo• tlemaii then moved— • Iliac n betty t Committee br appointed to take into eon. sidera )))) the Arts 53, 54, and MI Geo. 111. for the discharz,e id I Mill Iva•nt iklotm.., and the r &cis thereby produced, and to sewn t their (tbs.., rations thereon, with their opinion of Ilse hest means of rendering them etiectonl." Alderman WA [TIM IN hoped that practical two, and persons well actiusitited with hostiles., would not be excluded fron► the Committee. lie agreed that mime Bill of the kind was necessary, and lie believed di It 1101 a single Petition presented to the /louse pr.l ea 1411 unqualified repeal of the Acts. lie considered the law under consideration iiife nor to that of bankruptcy, because the latter gave the creditor a slower which the former did not, of stopping the th btor in Ins career of extravagance, anti con►pelling him to make a distribution of his return ll l ig effects. Under the Insolvent Acts, the grossest injustice might be committed; a debtor might go into prison, and carry ten thousand pounds of his creditors property with him. and they had stir means of obliging hint to account for it. Ile was last slight prevented fron► presenting a Pe tition, detailitig such a transaction, in consequence of an informality. A person who kept a board iiig.scloroi, wills a number of young ladies. after converting. into wintry every thing convertible, and receivirog every thing due by the scholars, sig tidied an 'mention of taking the benefit of the Act; hut finding a 1114111%1601i ill the Creditors to give op. position, he remained in the King's Bench Prison, and continued to live there ut a great expense. fht liououreGle 31eatber then esuusined the state tiLliiS Made in certain Petitions sumnitted lo the 11011 a• from debtors coisfilled in prison, and de. fended creditors trots the cleorgeS therein contained. Ile considered the Act au enormous tax uponn the enointr ,de.tructive to sommerciel credit, and me ow.' to ti.e usUuu. Ili le last Ses sion, he frrO!. lecteol an 'lllusion had 100-en made to the legal penis tittle of the Cessio Bottorpsot. IVith respect to that, it was in one itiatahre like the Bankrupt Lia; there the right existed of titipstry into the proper ty of the individual ; IleArt' the Ilitokrtipt Law, tiie first step was to toupee. the bailkiliper ItCctlitht•, noel ioquire into his property. Wu. that, he asked, the rase under the (,solvent I,set ? No; persons load taken the benefit of the 'ln solvent Act, 'those debts might amount to ten or twvuty thousand po sssss one question be ing asked them—their accounts were nut ittaiireted, nor any spiritism asked as to ally property they might possess. lie would then ask, was it po•- elide any individual could say that guy account whatever was give.. to honest Creditor!. Moch had been said of the condition of poor debt ors ; but what was the fact.' lie had nu ow coutit in hi• hand, which had been I .id before the 1100-t , , of throe who clad applied to be discharged us sit-olvelit debtors. 'I he 41/10110 of property for which they were discharged Sill { ou r m il. limos, and the debts of two thirds of the indivi duals amounted to upwards of h-n thati%ahci 'sounds each. The debts of this class amomsted to 2,875,000/. In IBOE the Act was ()fought in. lir that year (lie now talked of one ptismi) there west 405 petunia discharges', and 136 of them were do charged WS insolvent debtor , . Its the year after there was WO I,l96olVeat Debtors' Act, and in the year following there was not more than half the slumber of insolvents dip:lunged ; hut in 1414, there were snore insolvents discharged than fur t h e four or five part preceding. He had no wi,h trespass on the House, but he considered th,; subject of deep' interest to the trade sod proverity of the country. Opon political subjects, he Said, great spirit was shewn, and great opp.ottion a ss made where the sum anionnted but to a few thou weirdo; but the House should recollect tine root cirrus exteut of the present evil—it was a tax orison imdividuala to support the most flagrant frauds. The whole proem of the law, lie thought, should ' be put upon a different f I-shoo—creditor% were obliged to attend the Cote!, of West minster from the remotest parts of the city, at the greatest inconvenience. As to throe who ad tercel the law, they were pot in the !loose lo defend themselves; and whatever he might have heard, or whatever he might have thought, he would abstain from any observation as to them. But one thing was clear- ..it was impossible that any isidividual, however well inclined to do justice, to attend to other laboriuns business, and to attend to thousands of insolvent easels. He had already mated, that the Judge at an Insolvents' Court bail m o re property to decide on than the Lot' Chanced's, the Judge% sod Jurors of the kingdom. Ile would make but one observation inure. Ile had spoken to very many intelligent persons, who agreed with loon that wine alteration ought to be made in the present haw. With respect to the Committee pro posed by the Hun. and Learned Gentleman, he re• collecteol having been sheivn by Ilion a hip( of the names lie intended to propose to serve on that Coal+ MltitV—iii addition he (Nlr. Vi'aithiriaii) had the names of a few commercial Gentlemen, and Ise trusted the Hon. and Learned Gentleman wooold have no objection to add them to the list : t:a-v were Gentlemen. Who, from tlear commercial kilo,- ledge, their rank, and situation in lif, were elm neutly fitted to sit on that Committee. Mr. ABERCROSIBY 'Hid, the worthy Alderman had complained that the House had felt little dis position to enter into a discussion Oh the present subject ; lie egreed with him that they del not, and he (Mr. Abercrornhy) thought the House was in the right. The matter cone before dean its consequence of a variety of Petitions having beep presented, complaining of the present law; and his Hon. and Learned Friend (the Attorney-Ge neral) proposed, that a Committee $110111(1 be al)- pointed, before whores the Petitioners tuight state their case; and the e sssss noittee, after a NH tigatiori, would report their proceedings and their opinions to the 'horse, as to whether or riot it would be fit to make any alteration in the law as it stood. He did not, lie said, intend kinder into the subject ; but there were one or two . observations which fell from the worthy Alderman, which he would notice. The worthy Alderman had brought charges against the lusolvent Act ; he complained that no exami nation was made into the insolvent's accounts. He (Mr. Abercromby) could not uuderstand him; whet, he on this ground complained against the Insolvent Debtors' Act, he was hound to shew that a variety of persons had been discharged who had retuned property; lie had not, however, proved or attempt ed to prove that fact. His complaint was not that persons were discharged aro insolvents who were not insolvent, hot who retained the property of their creditors ; his complaint appeared to be of another kind ; it was that poor debtor* were not, under time resent law, kept a le.hger time in prison. Ile (Mr. A.) differed from the worthy Alderman—lie thouelst the renewal of the Insolvent Debtors' Act would bee attended will. great public benefit. The worthy Alderman alluded to the principle of the Cosi,' Bonorurn—that law had long existed—it was nut now the subject of complaint ; but when the Con tnittee was appointed, all matters might hr safely submitted to their cooisideretion. The worthy Alder man had also complained of the hardships of credit:to' having petrol's posseasieg property living within, the rules of the King's Bench ; but this evil, if it were' one, surely did not arise from the Insolvent Debtors' Act. He was, however, given to underiam.d that that very point was likely to Ire brought under the coneideretion of the Committee. So fur then was the Act bum hiving created the evil, or brieg likely to perpetuate rt. that it was only through t Is means of discuseing the iirinco pies of the Imolai Law that this evil was likely to he corrected, an by that means was the worthy Alderman 10kr . ,- to arrive at 114 1 object. Tin' 144•11 by A Iderriner had bun' that this law war against the principle. of rearms, and of justice—reason was the best gift, justice was the brightest virtue of unit ; and a law that was opposed to teasers sold Pastier should not he countenanced in a Brawl) Senate. But how was the Insolvent Act opposed to Ow dictates of the one, or the principle* of the other ? The object of the Insulveut Act eats, whilst it sorts I