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""'. 7 '.,.,, R w !Cable and Learned Laid allotted to me, hal I ant ogre I *am prtieotatly &melons to avoid any Sbing of the kind. lb, Lord Citaarellor eanlaised. • —. The Ilarquis•te Lansdnwa—.Wy Lords, as to the letters _At Calcine' Brown,, your Lordships did not examine as to het the rot tents were, bet as soon a. we Niguel there wire Miter., we contended that they were the best evidence, *hit nideure yourLordeliips aught to receive. Mr lairds, it mfaiirdairit in the law hooks, tiviit the nun-proi,ictimi of sotifidoititi contmusue.iiints• it fur the welecitt.i.i of Om priiiipal and not the agent. After what haa witted. boy wiry, &ad as it May be aktimileil with' fma inconeentenci, I miti make -y mo.i .... for the correspondetice bring examin e% a ulecret CoMmittee. Lord Holland thuuiht it M.orved'it.elf into a ca.e of pri vikze. 'rbe Marquis of Ruck VngllaM roncOrred with the senti mem., of the find Chancellor. TIM Marquis of Latisdowts observed, that if there wan to be a Itterret Committee, limy might call for all tillers mist tog to fiesta% bet if it was to he produced at the bar, he rhuntst only certain parte ought to he ' , tonight forward. ‘lliab be considered to be the hest mate was 'Ito:. th , lt a Sv c.tt Committee be appointed to inquire into and ex tonne the correspnadeuce between Mr. Powell rind Colonel Mown, sslating to the mission of Rastelli. Sfrer a pose of ten minutes, the Earl of Lauderdale u'ojeried to the wording of the u.. ion —(toad cries of •`tinder, order.") The (Lod Chancellor olisserved, that the motion had only Nei, rot Join his hands that monism', oat trots their Lord ships' mnisission be would read is :—" That a Secret Com. minim should he appointed, to umpire into the correspond. rice between Mr. Powell awl Colonel Brow°, and to report to the House llsereon. The Marquis of Lansdale, said ; be bad so gbjertiots to withdraw the motion, for the purpose of re-warthog P. He bad drawn it up is a berry, and there might be some Darturary in wording it. The Earl of Latiderslite maid, he rota not agree to the ?mown 411 it sow stood. : which tallest for the whole turrets. poeticise. between Mr. Powell and CM. Reown to be laid be fore the Secret Committee. Me doubled whether it sea. usual to refer papers to • MeereLCometsiltee. If their Lorild.lsips •trould come is the deeisioo that say parted it ought to he •,:bmilted to the Committee, the part. relating to Ramelli *ere the only parts that Could be laid before them, and Mr. I'.twell one), to be tillowril to 'strati what relate,' to Rs.. Ts , mii final the other sohjeets of the correspond►nce ; if th. or lordships did not allow this, the comealurnees smelt hr pester than they were aware of. If an spot war to be oldi=- e I to *Omni the whole corra•piihdehee between bmni and hie Women's!, there woahi he Jo end of die relative situation of :trent zed principal. Wroth! if not be hotter then tint Mr. * !'ntrell should be allowed toe:tract from the correspondence nisei railed to kastelli sled lay it before the whole How, _ _ for if the sending of Hastelll out of the contitry was a COM teMPt. i► Will a contempt of llie whole House; and their Lordships were not in the habit of leaving it to a Select a...mnatee to decide whether their privileges bad been infringed or not.—( Hear, hear ) The Marquis of Lanadown considered that the argumest of 0114 Noble Friend (Lauderdale) was in favour of his (the •Nol,le Marquis's) former m o tion; foot when his Noble Fiend said !hat it was uup►reedrnled to send a correspon e,ence to a Secret Committee, he would inform him that it IN not two years since the otlu•r branch of the Parliament h iil done DO; it was in the rase of Grady and Smith; there the correspondence was referred to a Seleet Committee— then referring correspondence to a Srleet Committee wns nut a new precedent. He would tiara fore move—" That Mr. Powell should he directed to produce (lie correspondence between him and Colonel Brown at their Lordships bar, sealed up; and that afterwards it should he referred to a Select Committee, and that the Committee should hare she power of calling Mr. Powell Adore them for the purpose of easmioing him to the conteuts of the corresposolesice."— He could mot see bow this was delegating any improper . . . prover in the Committee far after airy hail made their Jteport, the "winos of thecoatenipt would be ern to the iloofte. II w.t• Air intvntion to dititl, the Hour on Om motion, for it iris hitlsly necessary that the truth slonsld be got at, as to why Rorirlli was sent out of the co oils sy.—( Load chae►s) The Earl of Liverpool said, be must mot have been nu drr•tood by the Noble Martinis, fur be Never did intro.! that the general correspondence betweca Mr. Posen awl roloio-1 Prown should be laid before the Committee, but only such ratio of it as related to Rossetti, and not any pot that related to any other subject, and he certainly toot, ht that s; much of the correspondence would be better exammed by a Committee than by she whole Home. fir Earl of Lauderdale sail, be never contended that there were no precedsitts to be found in the 'prtorerdille. of V^e other House of Parliament, for *ending correspondence t•s a Committee, bat if their Lordships followed the.e pre. veiest's. thy would he ilepartisits from thete own toles and 'retaliations which had supported their dignity for aces. In opinion, the "midi of the motion were quite different f. um its rneanine. Earl Morton said, if this was merely a question pf privi. I• re, h e would nut have risen, hiss Ite thought if I tv• ?notion eras carried, it worth! dust oy the usual confidence between p•socipols and their agents Th, Fart of Limerick denied that the case of Grady soil Si 'lto, in the other House of Parliament, bore on this case; I! eue they were not confidential struts. He trutild there. AO. appose both il• medium of the Noble Marquis. The iiiirqui• of Lamidown s&d, what be mend was, il , rt toot only Mr. Powell was to tisrni..h to the Committee V•e extracts of the correspondence, butt that the Committee Id doh, have the power of retraining bum a• to their puce nint. The Lord Chancellor—lt was in the power of any Noble to move au - ameadment to the mutton of the Nohle Ivrtaipris, but it was nut for him to do so. as it was his Out)! lit, pot tbr question. A vast deal had been said of the eon. terry of Mr. Powell, but if he was in contempt, what right 11t.1 their Luedisltips to the letters of Colonel Brown he was tort in contempt. Itedearkle was of opirricro that their Lordships could sant pay attention to nosy thing that was dour in the oilier Howse of Parliament es a precedewt ; be was of opinion that the grimiest motion of the Noble Margin. was the yorrper way petting the question, if it might to be put nt •Il—they had tailleri Mr. Powell to their bar, and rroserrine4l hem on oath, and weir they afterwards to try him for the mist 1k could sot see what right (heir torriditys bad to call On Mr. P.l l l-11 in produce Cnlowel Brown's l.Ursa , for Outoriel Brown was cwt before them. 'He was of *purl...., tf Mr/Powell'. lettere had west brew sent by knatilli, their Fairilsbipa arowlal not he entitled to till for them, and it war nut, because that Rastelli was the bearer Of Meta To'Cirl. '4lroat that ;Ave them the right, bbl thry hail euerided tz.or..dre• ftnor that right by eamonsierg Mr. Poarlt on u-th , this wat the risk of law is this country, and in all uitul coalmines that had well:rogolited laws. He ■greed, if au .miurry into the enrrespostriewee was to take 'place, it • be bett.i► in a &cam Committee ob.. by the *bolo Hunac. 1.4. i (trey said. be would be far feint' sopportime such a snot.ou ni this, if be tled not think it we. net •;,..cary fur the Elid• of justice. There sae as oeder made of their 'turd. iblot nt: the fist of Aogusi. that lel *lines., at.ooi t t ikrtucuitaiiic when ailkd for; sud the Nwtyl.; E.rl opposite F, had vireo them the mriiiigino asauraecra that they shoaltt be alwys in attesolaote Hut it afterwards turd out. %OWN A pristripil ardor's was wastioix, he was i.et, he had been scut out of the country. It vrts mot necemmy for him to say thine slimmer or she sub ject thaw what had fahrn from the Nook in id •go s i ls og u n j or the Vrool.u.k on the orcasow.s, tint it was an . injury to the defimre ..1 the keys, Accu.ed that never caihil be re• pdireil.—'lleo , , hear, hear )—Then if their, turilettimi grislier] In keep the good optultwi of the ;while is the lii<hert ntribunat in She country, they most sin the omdinir as av of itastelli to the Lioltum.--(Herir. hear.;—Mr. Matt been called to their Lordship.' bar sail t ammo. d - on oath; Mr dot not wish to say any thong dismipectfoil of that gel. th rum:l. but he must say that his ireviteliee use out ilatlif4C -1.111 to lisp, ; be ua. therefore of opium" Shut the corn spots. deuce b.tweru Mr. Powell and Culotte , Henan ought to be gioslaced. He lbaught She first wvolalta of his Noble Friend (she Marquis of Lanadown) was the proper one, lust his No . Olejt . iessa gave way to the suggestion of the. Noble Earl it.tverintol), to preclude !Pregnant. 11 it was to.by ;vast died as a guestiou of privilege, he agreed it MU oat usual T • to refer such "oration,. to a Committee; ilk be did ooh. limb at it in that lifhk, lw did tint agree that by mentling the coe.esposrlenee to a Commiiire that !key were doing. any !Wag prejudicial- to Mr, Powell, for They had ocily to report on the gessespondente hetbre them, and of it . shoteld appear to the Secret C 11111 l 'titter un impeiry, there was may thing in the c.orrespondence which would be yearierlianed N Nor fl;nice •sest oroinoli they keep it buck. 1 1 17aroulit there. I'ue 41044 as a mendment, " Thal such part of did edeimo, poitilmsee between Mr. Powell end Colonel Brown as related to she warnims of Remelt* in entire; dinned 1w printlinetfilt their Lmwdritiste bar by Mr. Powell, seeteil iip ;" and he wool., follow team up by snoring 0 That the correspondence • 00 delivered should be referred to a Secret Compoter." [bat ' they aught enansitte mid inquire into the correspondence, as • it was sus indispensable iftetinf their Idirdsliip• to aweslain the ground, on 'Which ltunelle was sent Mil of the ColitilrT. —;t/ear, hear )—Nothing wo u ld he in r ouratiiry than to allow Mr. Powell to make such entracte from the corres pondence between hina and Colonel Stavin as he ',lewd, to prop up his owe 'lnflamer at their Lordships' bar.—( brar.)—The Noble .Earl then wiveJ, " Thal all the worths after the word That; in the mottoes of be. Noble Velem! the Min-qui* of Unmanlier. ahocild be left wit, and the rot jeweled, ' Mr. Powell be directed to or...ince such part of the. correspondence between bite anti Colonel Brown am relates to the sending of N.amtellt to Milan'." The Earl of LiverpoulooSerled up? Pearl Grey—Yet; waled up The Earl of Liverpool. ha., no abjection to Ike production of such parts of the correspondence with Colonel Mown as related merely to the 1.440 es of ftssictlis absence, a nal Illwre. fore in that sense would CAe fur lite motto" of the Noble Earl, but he decidedly objet ted to submilinig any other parts of the correspondence either to the Mouse or a Secret Committee. do that account he agreed to the molten, will , the niiderstanding that Mr. Powell was tow eke the extracts which were to be referred to the Secret Committee. Earl Grey, its render the motion as sattsinetory its possible to all paroles, consented to Niter his mottos, .41 as so confine the extract■ to such as air. Powell shosild produce, sod limitioic the pow.es of the Committee to the comileration of them, with power to ran Mr. Pow.ll ber.re them to be examined as to the correctness of the copies, Ilse Cnos tnittee hasimg directions aft&wards to report to the Non..•. Lord Itedruddle s p o k e . The Earl of Limerick's objections to all the motions re rosined in 1111 force. Lord Manners approved of any 'notion which woal,l tend to elnridate the cause of Rasteltea stwence, a circunidatice which. in his wind, compromised the character ur the House and of its jostler, and which had not hewn at all explained to hia satisfaction by the ?manna which hail been (Met , for it. Lord Sumeos objected to all the 11101104111. lie had great objections to 8.11. of Pain■ and Penaltors, if they tended to destroy the foundation of on; glorious Con motion, by de. straying the sacred confidence which wis euppuae.l to exist between an avnit and lii• principal. lfhat man *mild en- Inv hereafter as an agent in an honourable Calif.►, of his most Coofidentiil ciimmonicao . were lik, ly to be laud open h•-/ure that House, or soy other triblitool 1' 14,.%- pressed some astonishment at the *perils of 11w Noble Lord who spoke last, tending, as it did, to ert ate distrust of the explanation winch had hem. given of itsetylli's absence. Lord Almoners explained. His observations as In Mr. Powell's evidence only went aii for as the alio-ore of Itastelli was convened ; and he would anaintaiii that the circum stances of Ohio transaction were so mysterious se to ~qu i re for the clearing of Mr. Powell's charm ter that further ex planation should he given. The Earl of Illarewuod wished to deliver hi. opinion on the sehj".ct in question. lie orerfectly agrevol with those who thought there was great d, rutty in tilts tlneeui . lie would lir one of the last men to authorise the uriplotetion of any contidruiial 0111111111/11C011ialt1.1 !WI wren a principal nod loss avast. But is itlistandiog the deelaraltous of Mr. Powell resp•rting the canoes sat Rodent's absence, though he did not illusion the areurncy of that declaration, be felt that there was soonethiug on the fare of Illal eirrltonataore which required that it should lie prulwd to the bottom. and lie could not 1, satisfied iris hoot further exptaniati.oa. tVuth regard to the pespoSCll illgUlrlf, he hoped 11111? Israllawe any Member of the Secret Commoner.. nor :my one else who might he enzageil in its proceedings, «mild excetsi the limits prescribe] to deem in their instrue,ion s. The Lid of Herthwieko murmurd wtoh the motion. li trl Grey. in reply to the remark. of Lo r d Smite's, ob served, that whatever wig done in the euirrar vi this extra. ordinary ;retires dose, could not be applied hereafter to ordinary earns in the Courts below. Rat if the soles of the I.nwer Courts trete really 14* Ire endangered, except the House adopt. el a line of conduct u hid* amounted to a direct 'Ab straction of justice, the moment their Lordships cure to that opinion., tote proceediues ought not to proceed aster) f0rd0..., the derive' ought instant!y to conclnde, if, for fear of essdancei ill! theorJwary rig lea of evidence, their Lind. .hips were to be tompelled to go on with the inquiry in a manure rentatisfaciory to themw'vrs, sod repugnant to the ends of justice. If these will, hut he no inquiry into the gu b. jert proposed, he himself would make a muuuu , that it was aunerroiary to proceed further In the imps try nu the RM. The Ctrl of Ihniouglimore said, that ills Rouse mast be anxioue to open the dowlositre of the truth as wide as pos. sib!e. That object would he hest effected by examining Mr. Powell at the bat., and allowing him to disclose so much of the correspoodenee with Colonel Browse as related to flee absence of Ravioli i. Th e Mar tin i. of Linwinwn end the Earl of I.aarlerdale anpported the amendment of Earl Grey. Th e I.: 4 0 of c ues ,s r eoo asked, If. all It was the wiah of the Moose to open the 1111111 . 11 for the admission of the troth, the motion about to be put would oat effectually shut them ? tVhat w as it doiog but calling on Mr. l'owell to make out his urn ease ? Why should there he a Committee appoint. ed ? IVoold not Mr. Powell, tinder ouch linNits as were proposed, he the sole Committee? The &ere, Comniiit.w were to 10-confined in their inquiries to the papers awl facts which Sr. Powell might choose to produce. 'lbis proceed. in could neither give satiarsetion to themselves, nor do jostler to the Queen's cane. They were asked, if they would have the amfidmitial papery of the hfilan Commission referred to a Cumin:Mar of the (loose? Why Ike whole Circe of the prosecution, and a great dial noire, had been referred to a Serve. Cementite in the first instance. What eMraIJ make it meioses! now to •reeriee the garbled eat of Mr. Powell, of him into whose COO.leel it was intended to examine All the it. b tie, more. over, had taken place to the obscure of the Cou n sel. The House were deliberating on a measure which wes te have the effect of Narrowing Os meow. and limiheof the Quern's defence widow! listening to what her Counsel might have to wage in objection. It was bare jostle* to the Queen to tall in her Counsel and ask what objection they had to the coarse proposed. The Marquis of Lansilown paid, that the Howie were not rteliberating on any thing which emmerwed the Qorcu's de fence. lint 'Oil a - questiott respecting the &tech of the orders of the House. As to the powers of the Secret Committee, if they round that they had not power to come at the truth, they hail 'miry remake that known to the !louse, and they world he fur wished with fresh ponies. The F.sel eifeartiervoe ?tabooed. Nis triable Friend's ar. nomeist wee well emerges fora t'imernittee townie fall powers to examine into the sobjirt iefitfrrerl to Owns. this iho. eirearnittee w•s to he hotted t o the Tlheaidnslieen of sort) things ns *horrid be refitted to tin In by Mr. Powell, Ibe man into whose condor.' thee were to inquire. They root.), flies.'. fore, do nothing when they met satirticiory to themselves ur the hloute, end until they foaled rut by eaperiment, ,f they ere, should make the discovery, that they could do irothiiig, 111 , Y el/II id nut ask for audit ietit powers. Earl Qv, explained The tiiiestimi lii withileaniog the original motion was lieu put. The Rouse divided— .. Omteists ..... ....... 122 Nun-Content% Alsj..rit) . . The following as; Ilse name. of the Select r tt. e so whiles the pars.s irlAtite to she olpweire of R are to be referred : Tilt Lurd Presider* of the LorJ Ellesrbarostgls l:unoril rfir kart of Lauderdale Earl Grey - Lord Ersh:sse Earl of ItEte•iln •Lord Koster ,Lord Maoism, iCord Amherst Lund A rdea I The Mogul/11)f Ltosdevni. 1. he Mad tlas;v6sor ire 004;stsie se thwte I tairnliips was, that in pursurox further the intre.diestion of th otintrvirtlon Alas had 11 , 14 1 / 1 11 44 i• W r1"..041 d.•- ; fence, her Majesty's Compel might he permitted tor x•mine .! NW Powell at their bay; ite N1,1,11'1 , 61 that tittie tsetaltstOrt might Rise that Iran scion with warty 111 Sh► polrlie, and t•r the Hirers's, oral! the !mown' lie hid nothing: brr 11bitsit to their liord.hipa but the singitory nature of the proposed iiireetication, without the liissiorns %nese prosbed to I' the tiOttotsi. If there were oristliiiiit wrong, three risithl be nuthitie In cones id. As they hail hero parties 1.1 lin.,r Lord ships orderioe there to he calm, in, when Mr. PUIII II was examined by tb•• Morse, and en they had been permitted to I cross CXIIIIIiM. Mr. P o well, he hoped their I.nrilthipt woold ■uw permit Mr. Powell to be called its and examirrest Iry them. ; The Kari of Carnarvoir proposed that M►. Powell be now i called its. The Conisottlee appointed by their hordslsips were to examine the paper., but an it Appeared the •eeats had been guilty of erilpahly rshorstelinf Ihrf "*irtlY . • Pelee, or at least they had brim curtty of enlpshie aroh• gene... he Ilion:Oil it 1144 e.ry 1111431114/y Shut lb, C 01111444 or her ‘laje.sty should have the opportunity of cyan o oo trig 6lr. Pows:l. Lola Chancellor said, in his opinion, what wan now pr0p0....11 1.111 A must diummunn proceeding. The Ertel of Liverpool baid he theneght Om production of 11., the mud snalerial, but if the bearded (,oriel at tl,,' bar oisli,4l Mr. Powell to be celled, at the proper time he %hunk] have an objection. Tiw lkl.witioi of Larnideimi min, that as the Haws, had nride t',e Coowori at the bar parties in the procerdoex, by ordering them to be called in wbra Mr. Powell was firm ran. ruined, if that Gentleman was called Spain, thee eertaisily, is his opinion, might to be alloweft to eliatisine him. The Earl of Liverpool said Ise etmeetred it ,rout.] hr tire. iron to mining. Mr. Powell till after Ihr Report of the Com mune.- had been received. Lord Hollowd said, the Leaned Counsel at the her were otplonbtedly parties to the proceeding, when Mr. Powell was first examined. Their Lordship had now establitlwd a Select Comelier to inquire: further, and that Comiiiittee, Hornell called select, be hnew was a Secret Committee, who wont,' nut thvolge to their Lordships or the public •ny thing that was done to it; so that the farther proceedings would be a secret to the Learned Gentlemen at the bar He understood f inn the appointment of the Committee, that the t xathisms. t um of Mr. Powell was not salisfaCtory to their I. Irdahips, and certainly it might he supposed that the Leaned Gene omen at the bar, who had participated in that es astute:flint', shared also the feelings of cll-satisfaetion, and they now spoiled to their Lordships to 'enabled to rimier it more complete; were their Lordship to say to them that it was satisfactory Why thee, tit the body of the Howe, had they called for More information? or were they to say, the Learned Counsel had nothing to do with It! though they lied been at first permitted, yet now that more means of eliciting the tenth had been discovered, they Ind now mditing in do will, it. Was ever so strange, awn. tnelous, or contempt dile a proceeding? He was oneof those who would have preferred to have had all the papers pro dewed for the complete elucidation of the airmen imio• al. fair.—(Hear, kettr.?—He agreed with his Noble Friend, that an ohstruction hail occurred to her Majesty's defence, and it wns clear In him that they ought to do one of two thisigs, either to alto. eve.-y menus of remedy, or proceed I... Witter with the Hill. If they did not admit the Counsel to essmilie Me. Powell, they would completely atuttify !bruise-lees; for it would appear, either that they hail es. tablisheml an inquiry which they ought sot in have 'stabil'''. rd, or by refusing to iuvesttgate it, with the aid of the Counsel, had rendered it nogatury. He thought they were bound to call Mr. Powell to the Isar, in order to ingnite into all the facts respecting the papers referred to the Secret Committee. He should like to ask 'home Noble Lords who say that Bills of Pain* and Penalties are part of the Coast '. Immo, what aie the rules of evidence. with respect to such PrOintdlne If their Lordships found themselves in a sitsiatihn in which they must either ahandost the rules of evidence, or proceed its a manner that would not conilnet them ill he rod desired, natio-ly, doing substantial justice, then he would say, they must abandon the roles of evidence. He allowed the inconveniences wined' would mime from tale. Ing such a step, but they most either go on, or throw the proceedinescomplArly aside; and be believed, in his helot, that three was WO a man is. the country who world not re joice if that a retie Were to take place. —( Hear, bear) Lord Elenhorough said, he thought there were two gees. lions involved in the present proceeding; first, insimesch as the absence of the witness was au obstruction to her Majesty's deft twe, in that point of view the Counsel fin her Maj loy were permitted to put questions loathe. Powell; bail the plealloil Wow hertlee their Lordship" was, he con ceived, • ipies of privilege, and as such 'bey had ap. p o i nte d a C o mmittee to e‘aint lee the papers referred ter them; and in that point of view he emicrived that the Coons?' for the Queen had milking to do with it. But he Mooed it was cocotte...to fur Coutteet to say, that from fresh eirenno. stance+ ;Inch had just come to timely kuowledge they de sired to examine Mr. Powell at the bar. The Earl of Darnley said, that the obstruction lu the course of just.ce was, in hie Op" i 1111 l the rau , t mates sal con siderafi 111 l , but in any point of view it was incumbent on the House to impite into it foe the purpose of doing mil. mantis' justice, bet bow that could in done he could not see, if the Coulter' at the her were to be preetroled Goa els. misting Mr. Powetl. Whatever might he the course adopt ed, he as one of siwir Lordships ahisuld remminly novena his right, and when Mr Powell came Its the bar, pot some questions to hem. He mould tat bait agree with the epithet which h:s Noble Friend had applied to these proceedongs— Hwy were truly " contempimble." For the last three or four days they had beets absolutely sluing oettsing.—(llsord—He would repeat they had berm doing uothisig, with a view to the ultimate object of the proceeding, and be wa wow pole convinced that the ease world 'lever be brought Many satis factory termination When he euwsidered that their Lord 'hips were morning after meriting in attenslaree at nu hour comparatively early—weien be. observed all the paraphernitlia and pieprattura, lie could Warmly persuade himself he was not is a feverish dream. Of one thing he was satisfied, that if they refused the rentioanthle ?vainest alb! Counsel at the bar, nothing intisfavoury carotid remit, mid therefore the sooner they gdt rid of tae prueecd,og the beam. The Lbrd Chaucellor deed pot t h e que.lion, that Mr. Powell bs now called in, "ditch was carried in the negative without a division. orrvaio t newer saw one. Alexander Olivieti was This rat to the bar, sworn, unit transiard by Mr. Wilde. Were yaw in the serbiee of the Viceroy of Italy' 1 was. In what rank ? Sby last crursmiasinti was that of Colonel. You served in the campaign tai Itmona, did yvu nut I did. Wee, you taken primuer there Yes. When did you return the lilth February, 1815. Were you .in uoirrr in she French arms Yes. What rank had you rat that army ? Colette'. Whets trete you lir., introduced to h•r Royal H iglotess the Prillereili Of to the month of December, 1016, at her Itoy.tl Ilselatict..'A villa, at Como. Who intivilliced )01i FlAron Cavalletti. Do you recollect utwiti4 her Royal Highness at Rome? 1 du. When was that? In !PIT, w lieu her Royal Highness came to Haute, autt tentained there Iwo month.. Do you recollect the wood: ? It was in the becinuon4 of .11111111% Did bre Royal invite you to visit her Often. Mousy times site did or the Minim, to invite me so her table. Al the Villa Pesaro did you visit ber •Royal Highness Yea; she pistols-1i rata ill she mouth ot• November. Did yeti piy her a suit at that time? Yea, I paid her Royal Higlows*a visit no the 11th November. Was any proposal made to yon it that time to joie her Royal Highues'lt suite? Throe was. - • In what situatiou was is v.oposed no you to join her Royal Highness's muster As title attached to her suite, but with Atvparitcular employ. Did yen afterwards enter per ROA . Highness's service as equrrry - ~. 'IWO lee. did you serve iri to l u l:411111 1 11 VllNlliiliiid till d a die fib Nov em b er oi. :9 Iliat Novild be M iblii ? fee. Di+ yovi rcceive any miter sypelfilseromet . ollibif iliO, cry' I Fad the hnoutor to be apetriniert Yet Merl sieve+ Chaliaberlailo. %Teri. yds,' wile Chamberlain In her Rnyel 1 1 1ShaBosh or ?A'"? w.fl► awl other PorMoe 'neve wow sivotherr loin a Orr,Nall NMI myself. [tow did you remain iu the situation of joiul eking hellion' Till lad February. PM year pftVive at Mar t. ti any pensiott our inittey &oft her Ilej.aty ? I did ant. Have yaw *ince yuu left the service ? Nothing. Are you a married man ? I am. II ore you any family ? A daughter. 11'itere do )nier wife sad daughter live ? At Rome. Were obey with you on your visit to Pesaro ` Yes. A.. vou brine with that when yuu are at home ? 1 do ynit recollect her Itirsal Highness being at Koine the !regimen's Of August, 1819: She at that time set nut from To what place ? She set Out for Bologna, but I know she weed Ie tiesorgaglia. MI you till& with her Royal Highness the night before she sell ' Yes, I had 'hat houner. _ . At *lest time was it that she ■at nut Ull her journey? At troidsizat _ _ _ D‘d yea bawl her Royal nighneet to her carriage? I had aloe that hotiosor. twin waist mod .t carriage did you hand ? It was a swell csrriagr, The Interpreter said it was a carriage similar In a lk.4idee her Royal Highneme, who got into that car. ►iaae C n► Uldi. Brr4tini, and a hale 1.1) you rc.•oltrct sI Vitosall era. un that juarticy ' I do. .Vii isestenaut Martians nko Yes. DM gun ore them ' INM then's, end bowed to Omni. WMe yew ever Notice tray( lk,l in the name carriage Hot her Royal Highness trowelled in that night Yes, but sot on that occasion. Have you wed that carriaze fiinec' Yes, sometime+• 1)o yo■ know the cirriagi: well. Yea. y.,14 know who the courier was on that occasion SSW Carlo Forii 5 , t out as courier. Ditriue the lime you were j t Chamberlain with Rer. gam, whst was the tostoncrt and c luct of liccrlng , 14 " . • war& her Royal Hoglutess' The couttoct of n respectful Did you. see any :hisic intin.luer 4, 1 indecorous in bin con dom to 11..1- Royal Ruchurss. \rvrr. When lwr Royal Rixlonow WWI at Rome, who visited bar thrre? Moo of the bra nubility. C." you nine them, or •ny of then? Cardinal (amovalvi, Ca...buil Ruff., CArIIIII3I VlllOlllO, C 1111111,41 Cvitioiw•.:li, besides ladles. IN you reeotket the rtueouo.s Yes; she was OW or the Dames .I'lloutwur to her 1t..)al Did pot ever We {WI' [loyal IllEhoras iu r.nupiny with his Holiness* tke Pope ? No. Do yun know the Pruner and Prioress 6/Welts I 11If. ,110, know Ike Ituelsess Brescisot ' ,1,.. I).d she alms vest her Rutsl thehonts ? Ninny At those times was !lemon' present as lee Ito) Ai Closaiberlaiti Ile n a.. What conepsny visited her Royal Highness at Pesaro The first ponipte at Pesaro. Wits the Governor anion( them ? The Halpin, Ur ..- 0 •-•-•••••• Did he visit the Princes. i Nut at Pesaro, but at MOE meth. Do you know if Bergamot has !wen err. ived at the Images of the persons you have mratttuutal whets not in the esinspasy of her Royal litghums ` I bare beru piesent many times. Harr you seen her Royal tlizliness, when walking, take She arm of any of the Gentlemen of her suite? I have bad that honour also, sometimes. What was the condom and demeanour of her Royal High. WPM toslarth, the Hestieaseu of her amt.? Affable, but at the same lime dignified. When her Royal Highness first appeared of a morning who attended her' All the prisms, belies/hag to her ►uite. How did her Royal Highness generally miaow. lwrsell is the morning? After breakfast elm generally bank aw airing in Mr carriage, or in the garden; and, after that, retired to her library to !read and write. Who generally attended he► Royal Highness no Hume oc casions It' sou ask respecting the time her Royal High. 11 , 0 4 wan at Rome, I causal tell ; but if you mean during the lime 1 we. a■ her service, 1 will esplsta. I mean tii ask who generally attended her Royal Highness on those occasions, darns( the time that you were in her service' I repeat, that we all attended her. Wilde her Royal theme's was at Pesaro, did she mix stanch tit society? She bad sueitty at her owls boom coatis usually. Haul she the ...eiely or other company besides that of the persons of her OW 0 lousier Ires, sometimes of other peruses, as well as he► oats, suite. U. you kativr whether bre Royal Ilicisress ever word a rai ridge wisiels had an apron to it, durinz the lime she was at I rrter sow such a carriage. Am I lu understand 11i31 11w ammo, dee. 1M know whe. Ihcr her Royal Hit:hues' had cede a carriage toloogishi to her or nut ? 1 cannot say whether ahe had or had not, because ('roar ezautieett by the A.ttone4ryZeseral. What enuntrynsais are you? From Tivoli; 1 was born at Tivoli, bet I dwell at Rome. Where were you living at the time when you were first in gratsmenl to her Royal Might's-us? 1 was, at that limo.•, re turning front France. to Roue. What tom•. (lid you I.ve iu France? I wrist from Fresco to Milan 111 the year 1818. 1 want to know hoe long the witness lire, in France? 1 rennin...l in halter till 11w end of 1815; 1 then went to and from Milan to Rowse Then I isailecaand you left France about the end of 1815? Yca. Irrre you in the army at t h e Inn? you left France! No, was UN wy way li 1111 V In RUMe, How long did you remain at Milan, on )our way to Roost Till November 'bib. Then you remained at Milan from the roil of 1315, till November 1816 I rrrnaiu.•d al Iltlan from the begiuning of 1816, till some rime in Noveinb..r. Where was your family at that lime, al Miner at Ruse ) Always at Rome. What was the occasion of your reenaiiiiiic al Milan ? Becosoe I had commauded a regiment there, and I boa oc casion to settle saute• of the regimental ilelallllll4. Then 1 molerstand you remained thore during the period yoot hire mentioned to settle some accounts Yes. What regiment were yon in with the army of the Loire ? I was on the staff ?fiat Major . . of General Key. Were you in a French regiment ? Nu ; I was on the staff of Gestersl Rey. Ilow long were you on the staff of General Rey ' Till the many ut the Loire was disbanded. flow lout before? When the army went to the Loire. How lime was that From the retreat of -----. Mow lime was that ? From the retreat of the arrays.° Paris, after the battle of Waterloo. How long were you in the French service before the battle of n . • ter I oco I entered the service &hunt that time. After I was released from beluga prisoner in Russia 1 wrist to Fr once. How I. n hart you returned from Rile.ta ',Awe r un 1 . 11 . tried into the nem+ service? OA the Is.ll Fetiremy 1 was• , ►eleased. In what year ' In 1815. Then from February, 11415, till the hank of Waterloo, oun Ito understand you rare out on the l'oeoch i-ervice I eu terrol the errelee shortly before the battle. Were you uul iu the melee of the King of .Frnnee before Bonaparte returned? Never, 1)11 . 1 you out say yen entered the ll:rem-barmy its February, nth I, t as twouth then (lid you enter the Preach service Its the nimith of May. tVhst retinal wits it you went to Milau to settle the ac• sou ots of? The dragoons uf • Napoleon. How long were you iu that regiment before you went to Italy? How could Ibe iii the regiment before I went to Italy, when it was raised iu•ltaly? {Shat regisneat was live eousisaaded at Milan, that you 1. qX 4 , '1141.?71.9"" 1. J west there to settle the Deftest@ of • Is the stela Italy was disbanded; when I returned fr , Ztst Reset* I taws! it had bees disbanded, sad the, I velem! the Freer* see. vice. _ 1 sander.tood you to say, that when you Irene to %Man. in 1816, you remained there le settle 'Lome tegument-0 a.. counts? Yea; because the Amotrinn Government had pre yereal as ospoonn Commission loa-LhdaL pahopwr. Was it in Pruvemfor, 15111; thief Vote were (Lit introdocvd to her Royal Iltghnem at Coate..? VsSJ lieu long had you k....w.. Dergniat? .1 knew hum then for fttr *vet time. I think yo.r !owe IA sled 'hat VsovisOdhlllobe .s.gr y, r R m a l II ighnest rt Rome ; way tfha flehi iiwer w.•• .1r imPillt.r basing sr en her ■t Como ' Thai whi ihr firer ..... . %Vliere was the reptant tunic to yen 1., ,$ niglmitates aervice • At Pcsaro, whsu l went ll,ere in N.. veinier, 1817. proposed to rot to jot* leer Royal Ilichtiesi4 vice' Ihr Hord Highness eIIIISNI the propata.ll to to me by tier Cirimlwriain, Bergson. Then it was lb•rzartis who made yen Ihr prow•cal v.,. gaini, by order of her Itnyal Wei 11141 what B..reacni sail, et thi• time r.... • • What WWI ynnr •iiuminui when yne fir4rininert Lie ? ! Highness's snit,' Ih, ygn inezin 16P a,ln~tb~n timily, or that which I frli in her Royal Ifi l o w „, vire iiititation did 7011 Ittl in her It till t. When you lint joined her rennet • 11 bed so fixed erap'.... meat al I but time. How lO* sV II h•Yore rut hereto" Clowavherlaio t , • the 4th of November in the fullowiirg year. 1818. Mel 'we eoutiotse wish her Royal Highbrow Now, moollt of November, 1817, wheel the firvt propiwal made to you to join her nuitc .11111 he following Nimenti..... uritlwW Itairtug any fined enerl o y inent • Ven. . . How long 4.4 you cuotiume to be ber Cluunti..rlsio? T:I: loot•lrebruary. Mitre we; it diet yor spitted the service of her R.rt ilighoeqe? At Rowe. how logg hove yew !wen in Englead Two month., Iwo months and • holf—tiwn about,. Did you come to Enema., aline, e► company with a. ether person! I came its the ruMpatiy or Count Scheivnii I).. you live now is. the Wage of her 1114ji sty Her Hui Highness has done me the honour to litre me to live house. hot I du not form part of her family. Have you lived in the home of he► Majesty shire 5..• have been its Fmirlanil? The day after I airiv..l Count Schiavini, her Majesty mitt for me, and I kindness to sous me a lodging 111 her Immo,/ When Irmo it yo• went to Vesaro? Whest I curse he. t Had you remained at Rome rnms the moust4 rht“ you quitted her &od ffir;how.,l;ll you went Pesaro to rome here' Its the country, PC sr Rome, un I ' ignite of mine. Who paid the eapenaea of your journey, to FivearNi believe it to be Gov , rotwilt, tabu io lu isolessoiry tale of her Royal 11'ho do you no-so by the A.hrocute of her Roy al II ' I e.innul uaok? thrns, h cum, thr ('urns • . Ills rvreived the 1 AAAAA 0.. y. snit rAvr me my sit arC ; 11111 I :n. 1111111 . 111 e money must .vole rntlin Gowcrileitc.ll. Mr. Brougham asked ohs! w is the ine..tomo4 of Or ss, A rofali! The Interpreter—lt mean* all eir.eripti.sa of rottleo-.1, 14114.ri.eya, mud even in lem.—(L om f f um .ht, e I%lin applied to you lu come Ut England • Nobo.ty !ee -, sit Aro to me on th.• sulij, rt. I noy4.li thought it Illy to write to the Qneita, when I heard that a move *•.• • • go on again.t her I alltt It Com the 8 .... up o p, r of oz Where dot you isee ft riming 14.1' At Rome, svion !T the creek* of her M.jealy. ivr you seen him stater s No. T.'', oat.] that Schiattni road your I xpertar. here. bats' you rem ived any thing besides )onr expense,. Nolte. How much wet it that yuu rerettell from tiehowl.! &testy-14e potato!. eta-Thug. Hone long were you at tom., or hors awn wer.• you sr Corso b. fore the month of Nowennier, 1816' I was Como once N.s* he bats been asked ah•int her Knyal Weiner* vetting; out front Hume fur Setseivngtia, and h.. ham &tathl , as I tont.... rt mil him, that Me llownain and V.I,•SA I 11,1, in the lam. 141111ze ? I have nut anal 111.11; tiny were on that juorm ! they art re In stfroate Carriages. 111 . 110 went 110.1olea Mr. llown:im end Vassal"! 1 , 01101111 I have mvistionert, and the Iwn fentinev cliatreu.....: her Royal Inchon.. William havtlit Gu 011 Luigi Bergaust, I think. but lan not sure. Are those all that you recollect ? ttf ihrse I tetnemtre , . I don't remember any moo , . Was Schiarini there': Sehiariniet ont the day. aft, r. Iluw many rarriages were with tier Roy., Meows.' ilituk too besides her own; Iwo or Ihree two I ce,t li t.'t saw ; I ant tore of two, but I am not sure as To three. Ito you know the courier Swett.? I d.,. You say yon know Swale the courier, did you sec him •e out 4.n that occasion ? Will you swear that &weld was not one of the enteric-r e• that or-casino I have nut wren him; I slimier not to t". seen him ; I saw Cillo Fmti set out, awl I dio nut see :ie. ether cunrier set out. %%list time diJ Carlo Forti act nut ' Together with flit ear,iigrs of tier Royal Nighties•. Does he mean from the Villa Brandi, ur where' From the Villa Biundi. Now often has he seen San-hist the Vella ' Alm• •r eerry time time that I hid the beauv to go and Jinv a . her Royal Iligirstess. IVas Oaten at that lime one of the eroserinvai! I t know whether he was a euurier of her Royal High/mos, for ! isaw him dressed as a hamar. Does he retnember afterwards at Pesaro, Setehi beim: moiler of her Riiyal I 11 , 41111 10 Peen. *WOW oat no longer there; he had left the armee of he, Royal Hixliness. Now Tim have mentioned • Lady of the mime of the B•roweta d'Aeniani, who was one of her Royal Illititsress% Wien of Honour at Rome; how lons dill she amain SS one of her Ladies of Honour? During the whole time her Royal flightless staid at Rome. Does he mean at Rome, or at the Villa IRrandi Villa Brandi, which is within the city of it . Did she live in the Imam? She came every morniug, as t remained there the whole of the day; I saw her every day there; adways there. Cato you 'analogs the names ofun Catfish nobititritho visiied her Royal Highness at Rome? lht tl e dam I went to dine there I don't remember so have men any; 1 bay, seen Roman nobility, but I du nol reeollect to bare area any strangers. At Pesaro did bt evet see any English 1.-idies? Nu, I have not. Did lmigi Remand at Pesaro dine at tlw table of her Royal Highness? Sometimes he did. Did he not always dine there whiAt he was at Pesaro! I Iciee not are.. bim always. Does be know Beritami's sister, Fauatloa ? I do. Did she dine at ber Royal tattle ! Never. The mother of Bergamot, was site at Pesaro • She MP' tlwre sometimes for a little time. Vi'brii she wan there did she dose with her Royal Nish" — Almost newer, berauw OW was always ill. Did she ever dine with her Royal Highness' Somettin - lb. you know the wife of Reignmi ' Ido nut. You bare never seen her at Pesaro? Never. Re.e.rovehrerl by Mr. Tyndall. You have beau sekcsl wheiher you ever saw the wife • nemesis' at I'esaro-1.1.e ”.at ever Fet 111 your own N..cc; she never cans,. to Pesaro. You have beets asked whether any 'Enlist, Ludic' c' , visited her Royal Highness at Itunw—Ja you kuuw wheth Ilwre were any Lathes of consequence at that thee is Kam , I do out know. What purl of the year is it that y are speaking ut 1817 %That pant of the year It. the months of June astd )111 Is that the sewn when the tll.ll'asta prewilW It ••• Heade at ilk* CIO throe. Von have been soked whether at Pesaro any Enthsh I.‘ thee visited her Royal Highness.; do.you kw% urea, live i there! Nous. Examittid by 1,6.41 Ellembosoaayb—die twya Seiliavini Rowe the day after her Royal Hirbeisa; at whet burr d d e• tri." ,_ .i. • Counsel were theniiiilereti letiiealkt la. Mr. Brod'Oats setilitiose4J beVe ItterliewliPittier'orliiieir 1 1 Li 4 d.hip., shit wher-her asjelity• Celiiiisetc!iilwat 0 EaII 1. Knelt.lli, it wi.• diseutrereaf that he owoliiiit owl a the vtion. try : in rusicequeace et" that Mr. Pew/q1 ess OftcolliesOirliefrwic ' c their li.ordithipii, and see That arras iiitif 10.411ilipi had : i 'termitic . ..l hi, I,tarste.l Ei lend to put entails questions to i„