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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS,—Fe wee. Melee t 9 Cnun:el were fartber !maid relative ter the Scotch Appehl, Cathcart, Barr. v. the Earl of Caudle, •is. Mr. Clarke, in con tinua, on, at second Counsel for the Appellant. 'i ne further bearing w.t, deferred till Monday. The Bills upon the Table were forwarded in their respec tive stages ;—. l \snotig these the Additional Leocy Tax Rill wjs wad a third time and passed trriIVERSITIES ADVOWsON The Order being read for their L wdshqss going into a Committee on the Bill (which we have given at length in a former Paper), to repeal so much of the A& of the 9th of George H. as went to restrain Colleges in the Universities of Oxford and Cam. bridge from purchasing the advowson of Livings ; The Duke of NORFOLK rose to oppose the proceedings. He thought adequate reasons should be given to induce the Legislature to depart from a regulation which the wisdom of their ancestors thought a salutary provision. Their Lordships would recolleia that the AEI which the present Bill went to repeal, in one of its most important provi sions, took place principally at the instance of that great and good Magistrate and Minister, Lord Hardwicke. If the measure was a wise and salu- tary provision, then why, he would ask, was it now unwise and injurious ? The Bishop of OXFORD contended generally for the injurious tendency of the restraint, under the circumstances in which the Members of the Univer sities now stood. The present proportion of Liv ings was by no means adequate to the end, of the institution. It did not exceed a moiety of the num ber of the Members, and at least lie thought the number of livings should be tendered equal to the number of individuals to be provided for, and which may cr.- done by means of the Bill. 'Die law, as it at present stood, operated in an inconvenient, and, in some respeels, a very injurious manner. The measure in question would, he thought, contribute to improve the discipline of the Universities, and materially to pramote the interests of learning. — His Lot &hip also alluded to the ill effei9s of the present slow successions to the livings. With re spell to the provisions of the Bill, he should have some amendments to propose ; hut seemed to say they were not such as would materially alter them. Lord Viscount SIDMOUTH was of opinion that some farther time should be allowed Noble Lords to inform themselves, and to make up choir minds upon a measure of such peculiar importance. The restraint, undoubtedly, was, as the Noble Duke observed, sauaioned isy that great authority, Lord Chancellor Hardwicke. What he beard from the Rev. Prelate did runt make up his mind as to the nec-ssiry of a lettislatire provision, at least, to the full extent of the present Bill. Admitting the suc cession to livi••gs, under the restraint, may be too stow. they may also, on the other hand, be too quick ; nor, did he conceive, that the interests of kratioing would he nucterialLy beriefitted by the al ter:4l,in ; as, through it, mernbeis might be taken frori the UniverLity at too early a pet iod, and before their literary accpiitemeutr had attained the neces sary degree of weight and solidity. Neither could he see bow the discipline of the Universities would be umtliorat..d by the present Bill. With respea to else proportion of livings, on which much stress bad been-laid, an increase of that, suppose to two thisrs, of the number of persons, may be a proper subjea fur discussion. All he would propose a t • r.siteitt was .1 hale delay in the progreks of the in order to affurti time for maturely considc ing the subject. The LORD CHANCELLOR saw no objcaion to the postponement debited by his Noble Friend, but he considered the subject of the greatest im portance, and worthy the most serious consideration. It embraced a variety of important topics, on many of ol.::11 questions might arise. It may be matter of discussion, whether the income of livings should be augmented from the estates and other resources of the Universities; or, whether, and how Mr, the number of livings may, with reference to the im- Tortant übjeas they ad had in view, be increased. he result of his own experience on part of the sub jui:l was, that, under the present limitation, the num ber of livings was too small ; in what proportion, and in what manner these should be increased, was matter for serious consideration. Lord AUCKLAND confessed, that in his pre sent view of the subject, he was, generally speaking, I ivourably disposed towards the bill, as hew as to every thing that proceeded from the Rev. Prelate who introduced it : however, he thought some de gree of information on the subject necessary, as at present they were totally in the dark as to the means which the Universities now possessed of remune ating their members, as to the number and value of the livings in their disposal, or other resources for that purpose. He should, therefore, suggest the expediency of the information such as he alluded to. 'I he Bishop of OXFORD replied at some length, and enlarged upon and enforced the leading topics which Le before urged in favour of the Bin ; which, however, he had not the smallest wish to hurry through the Ilouse. He would appeal to their Lordships as to the great importance of education ; to which the present Bill went to afford a boon; one which the Legislature of the courtry should not grant with a niggardly hand. He was im pressed with the convilfion that the Bill would pro duce the most salutary and desirable effeCts ; and, adverting to what had fallen from Noble Lords on toe score of modification, he hoped that principle would not be too tar rated upon. I.urd Viscount SIDMOUTH, in explanation, hi dicated his attachment to the genuine interests of learning ; and observed, that his idea was, that were the limitation taken away, the succession to livings, in some instances, might be ton rapid. He concluded by proposing, that the Committee on the Bill be deferred till lttesday next. The Duke or NORFOLK explained, that he was not ag.inst all alteration of the present system. He was too well aware of the importance of education; but he entirely coincided with a Nobk Laren in his lora, that some information should be laid before to the proportion, number, and value nt OXFORD explaitwd, as to some obtaining an accurate account of the in question. of NOlfl-01.K. in farther eiplana• led fta the necessity of some informa subieft, wi.h wl,ich idea he was so far I impressed, as to propose, in order to allow full time to collet it, that the Committee on the Bill should be postponed until Thursday, the 2d of May. Lord REDESDALE (Chancellor of Ireland) argued for the propriety of having information upon the subjet, to enable the House to form a just decision upon the subjet, and to pursue'the right line of discrimination. He agreed with the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack as to the different important questions which the subjet in volved. He was aware of the difficulties which, in some points of view, existed, as with respet to pro curing satisfaftory information ; but what the Hou ;e would have principally to consider was the general policy of the measure, a• d to what extent it might be expedient to authorise the conveyance of livings from private patronage to that cf the Universities, and the proper ratio, as far as such was praElicable, to be established with respr& to the successions. After some farther explanatory conversation be tween the Duke of Norfolk, Viscount Sidmouth, and Lord Auckland, the Committee no the Bill was ad journed till Thursday next, and the Lords ordered to be summoned for that day. NAVAL DOCUMENTS. Lord Viscount MELVILLE presented a variety of Naval documents and accounts, which were those ordered by the House, on his Lordships' Motions on a former evening. They were laid upon the Table, and ordered to be printed. The Earl of DARNLEY brought forward hO., eromised Motions on this suloje& ; these he descriti ed to the House in a speech of some length. The Motions were for the produCtion of a great variety of Naval Accounts and Documents, many of which were founded on those moved for by a Noble V is count, and produced as above stated ; which, he thought, in several instances, by no means went far enough for the full illustration of the sobjet,with a view, coupled with the detached accounts, moved for by his Lordship, to establish and substantiate, AS he contented, the leading positions advanced by him when be first introduced the subjeCt. Of the impoticy, extravagance, and injurious tendency of having recourse to the merchants in preference to the Royal Dock Yards; the capability of King's Yards, under a proper system of management, of fully answering the demands of the Royal Navy ; and building therein a given number of ships of war annually ; and the injurious consequences which were likely to ensue from the departure of the present Board of Admiralty from the wise and salutary system laid down by their predecessors in office. The accounts moved for by his Lordship necessarily embraced a variety of Naval details, and included nearly the whole economy of the Royal Dock Yards With a reference to a constrasted view of the conduct of both Boards of Admiralty, many of the motions were for accounts from the Ith of March, 1802, to the 15th of May, 1804, in which interval the late Board of Admiralty offi ciated. He disdained all personal motives in thus confine forward. His objeCt was purely the pub lic welfare and safety, by endeavouring to throw light upon a question of great national import ance, and which could hereafter be taken up and argued by persons evidently more competent than himself. He concluded by ire molly proposing the first motion in his strinja, which was, for an Account of all Ships fitted out and refitted for the, Service of the Royal Navy, from the Sth of March, 1802, to the 15th of May, 1804." On the question being put ; Lord Viscount MELVILLE rose.--He assured the House and the Noble Earl, that if he (the Noble Earl) could but prove and substantiate his leading and most important position, that the exi gencies of the royal navy could be supplied in such a way as to render it unnecessary to have recourse to any other than the K'ng's yards ; if His Majesty's ships could he therein kept in repair ; and, in ad. dition to this, that ten ships of the line could he an nually built therein ; he had made a discovery which had never yet been made, and, that he would lie, in point of fait, th- greatest benefaelor to the navy of this country, from its first creation to the present hour. With respeCt to the part he had him self taken in these discussions, it was merely defen sive ; a situation in which, their Lordships would recolle& he was placed by Noble Peers opposite to him. He would not, at present, enter into a de tailed consideration of the subjeit, but generally contend, that a great de•tl of what the Noble Earl moved for war at least unnacessary. With re:pet to the great charge of employing merchants' yards in preference, on many occasions, it was a measure which he was responsible for in common with every Naval Minister that preceded him ; for, he would defy any man to prove that, in times of war and difficulty, any naval Minister did not find it neces sary to have recourse to the merchants' yards, in order to keep up the navy of Great Britain.-- His Lordship made some observations upon parti cular parts of the Noble Earl's statement ; and ar gued with great ability, that, from these, very dif ferent conclusions should be drawn. He obsetved, that the papers already upon the table, were suffi cient for the due understanding of the subjedl, as their Lordships would feel, on perusing the accounts, when they should be printed. A great part of the questions, which the Noble Earl's detailed observa tions involved, were already in a train of investigation and enquiry, and which would be decided and sided upon before the documents moved by the Noble Earl could be got ready. He assured their Lord ships, notwithstanding all his diligence, it was not until after be came to the House that day, he re ceived those documents he had moved for, and re ferred to a note from the Secretary to the Navy Board, that the accounts intended to be moved for by the Noble Earl could not, consistently with his public service, be got ready, in his opinion, in less than three months. He earnestly wished that at a pt oper time, the subje& to which all the documents referred, should be fully discussed and probed to the very bottom ; but, for the reasons he adverted to, he rather wished the Noble Earl would not now press his motions. After a short explanation from the Earl of DA a so t. ay, and a few observations from the Duke of CL A a uses, the questions were put on the motions of the Noble Earl, which were successively negatived. Some Financial Accounts were presented by Mr. PA II%F.LL, from the Chancellor of the Irish Ex cher-leer's Office, and by an Officer from the British Treasury, and laid upon the Table. Adjourned till Mainday. 110CSE OF COMMONS. Mr CURWEI moved for a Copy of the P in the Petition of John Duke of Athol, praying for com ; , els.i. non for hi, feudal rights in the Isle of Man, in che yen I;B3.—Ordered. As also seine other Accounts relative tai therm claims. The American Treaty, the Spanish Trid. Vcensing In demnity, the Neutral Prise Ships, and the Amerlean Intetcottere BMX, went through Committees, and were ordered to be repin ed on Monday. • Mr MAGGINS moved for an Account of all dollars issued from the Bank of England to the latest period that the same could be made up. Thu resolutions of the Committee yesterday l for'equalising the Impu.t Duty on Red Spanish, with thole. upon Port Wine,. were agreed to, and a Rill ordered to be brought In u ; ion then,. A Message from the Lords antionticed their hating arced to the Legacy Bill. The Customs mid Excise Additional Daty Bills were ordered for a third reading on Monday. Nlll.lTlk BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER declined entering into any explanations of this Bill, which was upon the model of that respecting the j English Militia, which had been very sufficiently I discussed already. There was, however, one ground, on which this bill stood upon a different footing from that of England. The former alt for augmenting the militia here did not extend, for certain reasons, to that of Ireland, which was now composed of no more than what might be thought necessary, upon a permanent establishment. But, as our objed was to obtain, zs soon as possible, as large an accession of disposable force as possible, this measure would be equally applicable to Ireland, where the vacancies arising from the enlistments into the regulars would be immediately filled up, the orders for the purpose having been sent down al ready. He then moved for leave to bring . in a bill, for enabling a certain portion of the milit ia of Ireland to volunteer in His Majesty's regular, artillery, or marine force , . Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, that though the militia system may he very serviceable to England, it never could be beneficial to Ireland. That coun. try was allowed to be the most vulnerable part of His Majesty's dominion:, and he thought, that, in the present temper of Ireland, it would be danger ous to strip it of the disciplined men, during the length of time that the recruits would require for training. Besides this, he thought the Irish Gen tlemen who brought the men to this present state of discipline, would not be well pleased, to find them. selves converted into recruiting officirs. Lord DE BLAQUIERE expressed his astonish ment that these hills should meet with any opposi lion in either country, and censured the assimilation attempted to be made, of officers' of militia with crimps and drill serjeants. Sir .1. NEWPORT denied that he had used ei ther of these words, having only mentioned their conversion ioto rm•ruiting serjeants. Col. BASTARD apprehended, that, as the bill now stood, wiry little disposable force could be gained by it—for the greatest part of the men would choose to enter into the marines, on account of the chance of prizes. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that the bill gave no sozh alternative to the men, hut vested the discretion in the Crown. Mr. CALCRAFT said, he would not objeet to the bill, as there were no ballots ip Ireland, where the men were raised by a small bounty ; and thought it would be a produCtive resource, provided the Irish Officers were willing to become recruiting ser prams. Sir G. HILL spoke in favour of the bill ; and, after a few words from Earl Tear's and Mr. A EX AN D ER, leave was given. After which, the bill was brought in, rea3 a first, ordered to be printed, and read a second time on Monday. Mr. FITZGERALD brought in a bill for ascer taining the division of lands, and rights of com mon in Ireland ; which being read a first time, Mr. ALEXANDER suggested the propriety of printing and distributing it in Ireland, before the se cond reading, which he hoped would not be hurried ; to which Hr. FITZGERALD acquiescing, it was or dered to be read a second time on the Ist of May next. 'the bill for authorising the Governor General to aft as Commander in Chief, and remain a Member of the Supreme Council in Bengal, was lead a se cond time, aid committed for Monday. . ENGLISII MILITIA. The House having, in pursuance to the Order of the Day, taken into consideration the Report of the English Militia Bill, several amendments were made in the Committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER' proposed two new clauses, one for adjusting the mode of ballots in those counties in which the greatest and least number of men should enlist; and another to prevent seijeants and corporal. , of the Militia from volunteering as serjeants and corporals of Artillery ; both of which were agreed to. Mi. BANKS said, that though it was thought proper to put the ballots out of sight in the present Bill, yet it was not the less in existence, and that for the sake of uniformity in the recruiting, both for the Regulars and the Militia, it was necessary, in his opinion, that a clause should be inserted, enaCting that when vacancies occurred, instead of obliging a person to find a substitute, the men should be raised by a small bounty paid by the parish. Having mov ed a clause to this effeek, Col. BASTARD seconded the Motion. The Parish, he said, was already obliged to pay half the bounty given by an individival for a substitute, and a small addition, he thought, might be sufficient to release the individual altogether. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER declared his great willingness to accede to the clause, with a view of abolishing the ballots, and assimilating the enlistments for the Militia and the Regulars, by pursuing the mode adopted its the Defence Aft. But that Aft had not yet a fair and sufficient trial. He could not yet consent to give up the old and established rules of the Militia, and the more so, as in time of peace he should think the an cient praftice the more eligible. After some observations from Mr. Wilberforce, in favour of the clause, and from Mr. Canning and Sir James Pulteney against it, it was negatived with out a division. Some verbal amendments were made; the Bill was ordered to be printed, and read a third time on Monday. Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) gave notice that on Monday next he should move for a list of the Pro- the 1-Ifluse, As I vi the livings. The Bit.h4ip daciiitier in d ',sine of the lii The Duke Lion, conteliae Chan on the sul • secutions for treason in the a copy of the evidence tak Cornelius Grogan. Alter disposing of the of the House adjourned to MI 1179 R and 1801, and on the attainder ut . Orders of the Day, ky nest. --- TO CoRKESPONDENriII. DeU, and other Enendly Correspondeuts, will be duly attended to. h;• vague account of a Duel yesterday at Chalk Farm, came in a shape too qutionable for iniertion. _ . i3II. I ITIESi I 32,10,_5N. LONDON SATURDAY, MARCH 30. Last night we received several of the small P iris Papers to the List. 'l'he POPE will not leave that city so soon as he expeCed. He has been taken 111, and is confined to his room. Admiral GAS. TI4EAtIME, who commands the Brest Beet, atter visit to Paris to receive the instruitions of Bona. PART c, returned to Brest on the 10th. The seals have been put upon a great number of vessels under neutral colours in the port of Flushing, laden with English merchandise, destined for the port of Ant. werp. A letter from the Hague of the tfith states, that the new constitution will meet with no opposi tion ; indeed no one expeCted that it would. We heard last night, from a respetilable quarter, that the sectet expedition is destined for the E.:4.: Indies. This intelligence is strongly confirmed Ly existing circumstances. The reduced state of our forces in India, and the probability that the Roct . A, fort squadron is gone there, make it a point of vital importance to provide for the safety of our Indian possessions. There is, apparently, no urgent ne cessity for sending an army to Malta or Sicily, both of which places are still mentioned as probable des tinations of the armament. A complete Copy of the EL IV, NTH ItEroer of the COMMISSIONERS of N•V AL leplitey is given the last page. It relates to the issue of Navy Bills for the purpose of raising money, an.l two other heads; in the investigation of which the Comptroller of the Navy, Sir A. S. HAMMOND, objeiaed to a full dis closure upon the same ground assigned by Viscount M ci.v► t.Le for his refusal to answer certain questions. We have inse ted a full report of acase ultra e 'me o r to be heard yesterday before the Logo Cuas- CU. LOR, relative to the Guardianship of the Hon. MARY SEV MOUR. the infant daughter of the lategal lant Lord Huert St v store. This cps*. which "'mild be at any time interesting from the rank and rt sideration of the parties, is rendered peculiar!), im portant by the political circumstances of the present moment ; the suit being for the purpose of removing the child from the proteaion of Mrs. FITZ ttttt r, upon the ground that, as being a Roman Catholic, she is not a fit person to have the care of APIUt. st ant infant. We have received tigw-York Papers to the 16th hut ; they are almost entirely filled with the answers of Judge Cs+ •SE to the artic►es of impeachment ex hibited against Lim by the I lodge of Representatives. - Yesterday at three o'clock, a Cabinet Council was held at Lord Muto ' Office, at which the RUSSI AN AMR *SSA DOA attended. The Council sat till past four, when the Ministers a ikitirned to Mr. PITT'S House. Yesterday, about one o'clock, the (2EZEN and Pa senses left the Queen's House for Whither. On Tuesday Their M /OEM k S. and the PP INCESSIS will honour Drury Lane Theatre with their pre sence. Yes:erday morning His MAJESTY arrived at Windsor, at ten o'clock. from Kew ; and soon after, accompanied by Generals resioy and MA MICK inspeded the Royal Horse Guards, in Windsor Great Park. This morning His MAJESTY will take the diver sion of stag hunting. Yesterday, a Court of Direitors was held at the East India House, when JAMES PATTiSoN, Esq. took the oaths and his seat as a Direaor, and was .appointed to the Committees of Shipping, t`rivate rade, and Government Troops and Stores. Captain EDSIZADES: of the new ship, in the room of the Kent, stationed for Madras, and Captain MASSON, of the Ann, were sworn into the command of their respettive ships. The Court adjourned at six o'clock till Tuesday near The Jason frigate, and Drake sloop of war, S. the fleet (about 70 sail) under convoy, sailed from Cork on the ‘23d inst. ler the West Indies. The Lords Commis.sioners of the Admiralty hate been pleased to order Lord G nos ea, and Ad miral Youirn, to send out some frigates to cruise for the protection of the homeward bound Leeward Island Fleet. The Eurydice, CoM TON, and the Queen Ckarlalcs Ct. outs, from Surinam, are arrived at Scilly ; they parted from the 1.04 Fortes and fifteen sail of the fleet on the morning of the 21st instant. *the best informed persons concur in believing that the East India Company have received intelli veoce of a disastrous nature, subsequent to the un fortunate retreat of Colonel Mussom. Hotexu our readers will recoiled, was left by the last ac' counts, menacing Agra. Colonel SHEP LIES°, o , we hear, was detached xp clear the cc uutry his efforts are rumoured to have been unsuccess ful; and HOERAa, interposing between him SiAl Agri, is said to have cut up his detachment. tk remuaut of which effeded its retreat to Agra. lc° great difficulty. LAW IN COURT OF CHAN( sevsioton V. 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