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PARLIAMENTARY INIELLIOENCL HOUSE OF LORDS, MONDAY, MAt IL SKCRET SOCIETY ACT (IREAAND4 ous The Zed KINGSTON presented amand • certain Premium of Ireland, praying that *army ram the ejwtMa at the Secret Society Act..—They win all an the taww .1116118AO8 FROM TIM COMMON& :$1 f. 8. Isseght up I Kraal private Billy which were owl a fret des. EAST INDIA Cf IM PAN VII ACCOUNT& Mr.lMa.an flan the India Huth% prasentad tsa Annul Ae. count of the of the East India Company. KNDOWNENTS FOR 16111111:ATIOPi IN I*7 LAND. The SW of KINOATON moved for eoPiel of eturns re. Wire to the Endowments foe the Encouragement et Education he Intent —I Mend. - . Lewd CARBERRY made • few observations on this notice, whkb were newly inaudibly below the bar : we understood the Noble lewd to object to the present mode of appointing diocesan schoolmates, and to suggest the propriety of suspending the powers of Ilse Hoard of Education during - the inquiry of the Cont. nonce appointed by their Lordships, relative to education in Ireland. The Earl d I.IVURPOOL hoped that the Noble Lord would not make • motion in eoshwnilti with his suggestion, without giving provisos notice of his intention to do so. RESTORATION OR ATTAINTEI) PF:ERMIES. The Earl of LIVERPO4H, stated to their Lordships that he role, in obedience to his Majesty's command, to lay several Bills on their Lordships' milk, the dined of which was for the restoration ot honors to certain individuals. the titles of whose anteaters had been attainted. In bringing this subject under their Lordships' consideration, it was only necessary for him to say a few words to put them in possession of the areunistanees that laid the founds. tion of this measure at this particular period. When his Majesty was graciously to visit his Seeteb dominions, two years since, nod was the first time that any of his illu strious house had honoured with their presence that part of the empire, and the Ent time, indeed, that any British Monarch had gone there since the revolution. it was net unnatural that individuals should hunt t.l y implore his Majesty for a restoration of those honours to their families that their anceators had been deprived of, they being con scious that their predominate and themselves lisdacted with loyalty towards his Majesty. and tie Mealtime father for the last sixty years ; and their Lordship' name feel areurei that it was not in simistent with his Majesty's dignity to attend is their petition, but it re.r.i.ed a good deal of corMderation sad , and he was offs new enabled to lay four Bills on thole table, wilds inquiry reference to ear on individuals he should have the bonnier to name to their 1, ;dishing. These 11,11 a included four eases of attainder, and were dar.:ent to other Acts, because emanating from the (*oven they came down signed by the King. The reeding of the names of the individuals win had thus been graciously moldered, their Lord ships would perceive that tin disposition to act on a narrow policy had been evinced : and it was material for him to state, drat these Acts rested entirely on grace and favour. Ile said this because no consideration would induce him to bring forward any question that would involve points as to the propriety and justice of those prn ceedings, that had deprived the ancestors of the individuals in ques tion of their honours. lie would repeat, that this could only be considered as an act of grace and favour, springing from the kind ehmerition of the Sovereign on the throne, tomuds certain indivi duals, by griming them the restoration of the Mimes rtf their house., those individuals having anew ted the notice of his Ma jeyty he reason of their loyalty foe many years. I 'pon this part of the slibiect he did not feel it necessary to say more, fee the four Acts to which he alluded could only he looked mom as pave ermine : eiora of grace and favour. issuing from the l'town to indiv i# l Nth seis m loyalty has been conspicuous tor many years. But these ts be reminned to ammapoily by another, which he was con fi dent r Lord• hip. wo ulei look open In no other light than as one of pure lus tier, when he mentioned the restoration of theViscounicy of Stafford. I Dom hear, hear, form the Opposition benches.; It was a satisfies-1 tuns to him to be the instrument of perils ' g these acts of grate and favour. combined as they were wish an act of justice towards a most respectable individual, and of doing away the stigma that ever fell on the Parliament of this matey inort , the wore periods of her history. The Noble Earl then luovelf that a Bill he read a drat time to ream the Emblems of Marr t 4, John Francis Erskine, Esq. ; that a Bill also he read a first time to r-sture the Earldom of Keemaur to John Donlon, Esq. t that • Bill be also read • first time for restating the Earldom of Strada. 10413 :rid Perth to James Drummed, Eel. Ilia Lordship, in lay. ing the Bill relative to the Stafford peerage on the table, observed, that he held in his hand a 11111, sired by his Majesty, entitled nit Act to reverse the attainder of Lord StMreird, respecting which all parties agreed that it was one of the greatest blots in the history of the English Parliament. The Noble Earl then moved that the Dill he read • lire time. The Earl of R:\ IIN()R whaled to understand the question pro. poo d by the NOM! Earl opposite. The Earl of 1.1 VERPt NM answered. that his okiret was the plroduct ion of Bill. for the restoration of eenain forfrittsl honors. .... ..... ._____. Ti.. Earl of LA l 7 DER DA I.Y. mid, that •the Awn would not in),‘ nat. of fills dereription without making inquiry and wiring all doohts on the sithjertli with olOch they were connected. Th. it Loid,hips ought to be thoroughly satisfied that the individual alluded to in one of them, was rosily Gadded to the Strathallan i'verage, and that the honours attached to that title belonged to into. itelare the Hills were proreeded in, thought the Mute ought to have the opinion of the , Judges as to the Act of At- W.:4er of . bonl Strathallan. The Earl of RADS( //t said, that when a Bill was brought in to reverse an Act of Attainder, it wr usual to produce thy dont -B,—ttim upon which the Bill was founded. The Earl of 1.1 VENN )1 ILt asked their lArdahips when such 116:3 PO as he had that night had thw honour of pmpooting to their lotrdships were Introduced, he would ask, would they refuse to gRe them a first reading, which out of consequence was always do,e, and the more particularly when these were signed by his Ai.. nit r, as it was necessary anch Bills should be ? The Earl of 11.11INOlt salmi the Nobk Earl oppnaite, if he !twit-1y introduced these Bills as he would any other, to be nada lint time ? The Eori of I,ll' E K PIN )1, in reply saki, that he merely in. trotturell them no Mlle to be read • first time. The 1A.1141) I:11A N1:E1.14/R, in answer to what had fallen tl,lll a Noble Earl !Radnor), onwered that it was not neernary to ; roams, 4/Gamin-nit when a 1W) recited an old Art of Parliament. laird llt 011.1,1N1/ thought that the Bills should he read a lint time. and lie bail little ohm,* that they would meet with every eh. crorngenivnt in, the !louse ; hut at the same time he thought tli,re might have been usher modes adtipted hut he was not pre- I...red to go into that yucation then. lie took it tor granted that t 1? Noble FAT! orposike hod looked Into prnedensa, and had guard ed against any roints of law that would arise. A An stew word% from Lords LAUDERDALE, MELVILLE, and l'; 111 AV/ If, 'Me Lail of BADOII moved that theßills be minted. 'l . be Fort of LI V EltPO4 tir asked, with home warmth, if he w rr to I , IIVC the common courtesy that was granted to every Peer 1.% the !loose, of aliowing a Bill to be read a first time without ofTo.ition denied bi him, when he brought in Dills on NO sacred r. iieiloion, with the signature of the SOVCIVign attached to them ? .titer a few IWOOIN Iro n s LOWS ItADNUa OM 1101. LA O r , the PON ae re nail a lino time. 1.11 . 1:11.14101. then brought in a Bill for restoring t ,, Na.rn to William Nairn, bXq. wind) was alt.• rrail 11•• I • 11,i. I:NOLISH CATHOLICS. 'l'l , Carl of Si rI'ESBIIItV presented a petition fmni the I'rott:4.oll I mien Of 1.011•14•1 anal its vicinity, praying that the two tio.l before their leirdships' House, relative to 1:14:11311 ROM /II I . 1111..11e... 1113 v not pass ;too n law, Ti.i• of sT. WV VMS pre,ented similar petitions flan t;te 1•Iergl of the Archdtarottries of Cardigan. l'artuartin.n, soul St. ihnids. *lllOl Will:severally bid on the table. Th • 1101. r oldie I ray having been rea I. 3lations of LA NSIN /1 1 1'N, stated that he rose in pursuance of the notice hr hail given on a former occasion, Mr the second r,-mlivo or twit 11.11 a, the object of which was, for the 'cry partial r. hot of Ins sty's Homan 'atholie subjects in this country. r Oleo Lordships 'night think proper to deal with this coca the, lie ,raid anticipate nothing Ifni a calm and dispassionate ea• 01 it ; not NI lIIIIeh ma M tact of inthilgence towards It i ttt self as itr 3 of ritsOce towards his 3lajesty's Roman 'mitotic sittoects, woos,• u 5.. ., hr loot t i lt it his duty to bring 11111117 the el/Illiitletatiii• at (hit House. Hs could not but committer as a favourable omen, Styli rt:t..ol to the stiertms ui his measure, the Hill* that had 'wen ir e :mm : 4 liv iltt• Fairl oppositr; and he hailed them Wilk the giratha s• tislactton, w all set or voltintnne grace, flossing from t se 1 1 ,,, en, ler revtrsito; as outrageous MI 111 . 111%11re an Ile tlhooght coma be ...mound by a Protestant l'arliatuent• Hut their I soil •'eps 11.4.111ber, that that art Via• counnnt.d in viote l it 431 tract• or which he Islamist wish en sue °bloomed from the St it,, r. and 111.4•IIV of England. In urging his present mot- Ithre, lie shoal.' 1101 tlllllk it iowes.ary to oath.... any argettants to tioete ohit, prows,: that hostility winch belonged to vulg a r womb.. am! 111 . 01111111 1.1113411 1,1 Kfllllt to those 1,1 whom it w.o. its Vie ntrictitt hetitte doe; riot loyitive It welt to r.:1•It hot Itccoloit• Iticy thnUghl err:milt to diem or. • ts•itas IM t .11 1 .rious Ji.cipltillr. To such ro %Min Ile Wt/111,1 WBllll.l I , ot Ilitiowlrt 311 J Ile aet.lil !rave Ihr then. korashir, Ille broad Cl,llllll, that 311 Mt./I ...:• Mere 1111Itleil to V% el y Mir:lvry they r 311.1 rec , i3e, that Sete tett 11,011.11S . Cilt with the lately of the Slate: MU! 11.. 11041111MIleil that Ihr Illeamitte hr hail then the honour of pr .p to their lamlslops' tunic: was perfvetly rrrioncilcolitc i% nil, the s IfnV tit (11, I loirch and State. isto 11i1, that In Not int ro . deco!, and which, lit the convenience of do hale, he thote:t t might to Ise considered together, acre intrial..t, a• tlolt r•1•11Ilta wear Wean% to rehear a p0r14,011 of his . .11eie.R.'s sesairet• t'rit:ll eler:3111 11 , s3bIlitlei, m rolla.3loellee of their rcbgiotis tit l i ttt on., the CM', 1 11 ,,0 o h y et o f them taring to dn. I . 41113111e1 the Plllle the, were in Mil, l'lrts nl 1114 . Nihkhmi. In Ole Hill relating to the holding ~hire I.v Catholics there Was lele thee wan nu parill.l n. it i;1 %VII. It it in • fortiter wanton, propined to put th e I or on the same on 11103 e of Ireland, it ars at pethal that. iy the gen.-rd rouctirnmre of all patties 1.1 and out tit doors. tho law. sere arostinilating in all parts; e 111.11 131313: it ball Nen ;inquired Its 1111•MIllee in distant c o l ot a,., Ihr troll by Jun, drill great bulwark of 1111'1311111333).. [ln a 11 ,. 1:1mil then, alien the Livia of England were finding their tray in:,, tarry part of her vast empire, with the triad by Jury bt irg mo p•isett for tlialart ; a ith the reVelitie of In Isom bent( artiotilalral Milli that of ; seal n lamlahle apoesrii.,„.• on all occasions for the laws at' the 310111,1 Coma., to be es trotted to every part of the empire, a, , I . • tar as it es', ‘3llo3.lelitly will, 111,1101 polies, surelv stn tr I.unlslnpv would nut keep at variance the laws of bighinit sad trollied ad a On' of such vast itnportav co, and by which 13 math Ittasita apse dam to so respectatile and loyal a body u his WPM, • likman Catholic subjects la Ireland. It IMO onuses's.. eery so palm out the gnat discrepancy of such policy. A unites. inky of lows was desirable in all things. but in no instance was it atra drivable than regarding religious opinions. Ile did not was Cat a mere case of moonily would he a justificution of the but this rase so l i ar from its being pas .... nimeetue he proposed; —.in . is case so tsr 0wn.... ._ -__________ .. _ _ __ __ _ __ ___ IV* .- _ able to point out • reason foe continuing the anomaly, all the res- before the !finale. Ti that principle he weg w, as he had always eats that could be brought to hear upon it were against its remain- been, disposed to give his determined opposition. His opinions Ins, and proved in favour of the Englati Catholics. He would upon the inexpediency of weeding to that principle were millirem, point one lq one the instances to dew that they were eminently en- by experience ; although. p e rh a ps, there was a part of one of those I titled to the indulgence he asked for them. In the first place he Bills that did not appear to him in objectionable as others—he I would notice the elective franchise. :tinny years since that prin. meant that which proposed to include the Duke of Norfolk in the lege was granted to the Catholics of 'rebind ; but it had been ob. Annual Indemnity Act, by permitting him to hold the situation of 1 jeeted to that measure that it caused undue extenaion in Ireland to Earl Marshal. That object, however, might be attained by a, the tight of voting, and had been detrimental to the peace of the separate Bill rather than by making it part of the present measure. country ; but he contended that the evil anise from the subdivision Ile could not rename to the appointment of f;atholies to the lof property, and not to the admission of Catholics to that sacred office of Magistrates, for in his opposition to the Catholic but question, both It this and the other House of Parliament, right a Englishmen which Was at 'present denied to English , granted to Irish Catholics. !tut even if this were the arse. it could he had made as the ground of his objections to it, the unwilling. not he applied to persons situated as his elajesty's subjects of the neon he felt to die admission of Roman Catholics - to political Romish persomioo in this country. Their case was totally dif. power, and he knew not with what noire important part of ferent. The Catholic population in Ireland wan, for the most part, that mower they meld possibly be entrusted, than by making them deficient in property ; but their brethren in England were ani. Allem In the judicial administration of the criminal justice of the amity qualified in that respect. The number of Irish Calton., agegarp. Thin, however, could not he more effectually placed in I might be objected to the indulgence granted to them, but he need Mffielbilellemds, than by their appointment to the office of (Magistrates. rrtnind their Loolships of the small proportion the English ('athie. Us bed opposition, but a more qualified one to the proposal is to ex lies bear so the masa 01 the copulation here. flow often had Ca- large elective franchise in the Roman Catholics of t country. tholie proprietors been men and it was a melancholy circumstance His objection to it principally lay in the feelings of religious to recur to )) on h om i ng , at a &t a m , for Members of logglilament, . acerbity which It would orate in the future contests at elections in coming forward and proposing a candidate, and then Mine obliged this country. Instead of a struggle between Whigs and Tories, to retire from the buntings without toting fuse the men they had re- sad other political parties, religious exuperstion would be added commended. it mat be in the recollection of man OM* Lord. to embitter the feelin gs of the people of England. Such was the ships, that Catholic proprietors had recountm candidates fee eaae now in leotard; and he should be eorry to see thel:atholic the representation of places they were connected with, who were priest in &island, as in the limier country, become the champion hostile to their claims; and be knew of no instance of ea of the hustings. Ile would not consent, on any presumed analysis Qom prejudice more striking than this. Vet the peemlier el !of the respective situations of the Catholics, to give up what he al testants had kept such men as Gage and 'fhmgmonon MIN I considered the safeguatvls of the Protestant Constitution. If it at elections. Every consideration of sound policy should Indies the i were advisable to ensure a Protestant succession and a Protestant Bowie to get rid of such enactments. What their lordships re- ! ascendarsey, those bulwarks should not be abandoned by which Hected that the English Catholics were living in • population cam- ! they were maintained. rhe Noble Marquis had defended those partitively Protestant, powering property to • large extent, he : Bills on the ground of equalisation of the Catholic subjects of the trusted that he had said enough on this abject to induce their' Empire. For his pert he did not think such equalization was Lordships te look favourably on this measure; for those whom they practicable. If a system of uniformity were to prevail, Scotland would relieve by it could never act in bodies, as they did in dud part should be included as wallas this country. Ile believed that the of the Meted liengeltnii where the indulgence wee conceded to them. Catholics, if admitted to power, woad aim at the iacendancy of Ile implored their Lordships not to refuse to the Catholics of this their body. This, indeed, they themselves avowed, and he re comany, who had been always conspicuous their loyalty and spected them foe the simatity with which they avowed it. It rod conduct, that most valuable privilege the emits had been said that the principles of the Catholics were not 1 for repreminertiven to serve in Parliament,and whielliWee the same as they had formerly been; but it was his unshaken as essential to their political existence. • The sat PRI that be conviction they were unaltered—that they were precisely the had the honour of bringing under the notice of .d oss was same as they bad ever been. Ile would confine himself one for enabling; Catholics to bold certain offices. miersire at a retrospect of the lam fifteen years, by which it would would be attended with no other effect than admitting than. to ,peer that the ipleinelples of the Catholics were nut changed in any office. in the revenue, and to other office, enjoyed by 1116 Calhdiell keine. The Noble Lord proacoded to refer to the writings of in Ireland. Their Lordships need scarcely be made l.Dersear illikser, with a view of supporting this 'amnion ; and to with the absurdity of two asuntries in daily insurcoune ea* the writings of Doctor Doyle, *he, within the last week, haul laid ar.d other, and that on one aide of the Channel Esthetics were Pi beton the metropolis a do cument contaluing more of insolence preside in these offices, and on dumber nide theyeouldmeteeesithse sad sedition than any thing he had previously met with. There a permit. It seemed as if the whole of the sager and tether/sin the wen also two L'athohe societies in Irelaed, whit* had broached Kings warehouses wotild be contaminated by a Catholic touch In each tombs and spinosa, that it was found necessary to suppress Engltutd, when in Ireland they received not the slightest thjusy t than. He mentioned several °thee transactions which took place,' and the whole of the spirits intended for the ale of his Mosey% even under the reign * the resent Pepe, to establish the conti liege subjects wonlit he instilled with heresies, and become dan. noeme, of the same spirit in the Catholic body as formerly pre-' proue to partake of, if a C atholic had the care of them here; nand amongst than, but from the low tone in which he spoke, but they might be infected by the importation of the Catholics of his sontenteat et them was not distinctly audible below the bar. Ireland being allowed to take Aims in the revenue here, without If mon petitions had ant been presented to the House this Session, its being compulsery upon them to take any other oath than the it area hem the confiktice that prevailed throughout the cou nt r y, one they had previouely taken In Ireland ; and the English Calm. that the 1n... would adhere to tbe_previous intone they had fie lks had the mortication to see strangers brought into offices, for no queue' salsas* on this subject. He sesslisded by MOT .as an other omen thou because they were Irish Catholics, who could A te the maim of the Noble Nltsgata, that the is ilb be m hold Wise here as well as in their own country. This was raid again that da_ y six months. an inciamistencey not °lily unjust in priciple but income:tient The Karl of WESTMOIt LA ND was if the some opinion in practise, which perhaps the Noble and I,earned Lord an that he bad sleeps been, as to the inexpediency and unitises, of the madsark w a s nut itiformori of ; but when informal he might granting the general quietists of Catholic relief t lint his opposition feel it his duty to bring in a Bill of pains and penalties ass eat to that measure did not op, luthertludi the esclusion of them film certain partial. which, although It would not hare his Itordship's l'arliamentary power. To the present motion of the Noble Met• would have probably the votesof many Noble Lords. Ile quis he wee frinidlv I beesese, in his °plaices, it did rot go beyond , ?e ll' urri t nform that Noble and Learned Leal, that an order had ems. the greeting of those privilege, which the right d proper y shield noted from the Itoverrnment, dispensing with the enactment of one give, mid to withhold which tweet bee source of ' teat to ' of the Acts of Charles 11., the precise words of which he believed the Catholics if gogisud, as they were or' by th e i r c ar b i n e he could quote to their Lordships : '• That no Person shall be al. fellow-MVMM in Inland. It was inipahtic and unjust to oblige lowed to interniceldle with the Excise, or art in any office in it, an officer at the Civil Service to take oaths in EnglaW frees which without taking the oath of supremacy." With repect the office he was exempt in Ireland; and he con* not discover say pried/fee, of Justice of the l'eace, he could see no reason why, in of justiceor good government which impulsed the takimeofoatheasa I this comparatively tranquil and undisturbed country, Homan civil officer, from which a Homan Catholic in his military capacity Catholics might not act, when they were put in the commitment in was relieved. The much nowe limited extent to which this measure Ireland. lie would ask their lordships what danger could arise would be elective in Etigland, was also a reason that induced him from having • few Roman Catholic magistrates acting here, and to concur in it. The electiv: franchise here would he c on fin e d from disposing with those oaths which, although doubt, existed to the Catholics, who were owners of the soil; but in Ireland the ' regarding than in point of law, were nevertheless required, when Catholics, besides constituting the bulk of the populution, were ad- Homan l'atholies were allowed to act in that capacity in Ireland, a mitted to I:cremations, and voted frt parody at elections, in virtue country beyond cotoperaonlllore disturbed than England ? There of their right in the' capacity. As to the apprehension stated of Roman CO milieu were permitted to exercise the duties of the magis- Catholics voting tOr itleisibent who would carry the general ques. tract', whilst they were strictly prohibited on this side of the Chan. tion of emancipation, he would say, first, that the fewne s s o f ! not.ln proof of the satisfactory manner in which the Catholics die. their numbers would prevent the execution of such a design if they charged the duties entrusted to them in Ireland, he would refer to entertained it; and in the next instance he would refer to the the evidence of a gentleman who filled the situation of Inspector conduct of the Roman Catholics of Ireland, who, when they u rnera t, no d w h ose ° N e r va ti o n wa s principally engaged in the obtained the elective franchise, and Parliament was die southent counties, where it was known the Catholic poptilatiou solved, so far from making use of the great and Influential measly prevailed. I tfthe offices in the 11011er—the constables and powers thee possessed, of merely • stding Illemlicre to Par. policemen, who were appointed under those many acts which our po wers with • view of suppor..eg the general measure, that policy towards that country had crested and multiplied, such Of in the Parliament that was then chosen hat a sin le discussion on em th es were tilled by Ronan Catholics, were filled faithfully and their claims took place. r Bear, hear.) The Nob le lewd adverted well, and the evidence of the gentleman to whom he alluded MM. 10 the Itill which had been introduced in favour o the Homan Ca. tained and established this important fact—•• that in no instance iholie Peers, and said that the Roman Catholic people, however were them Roman Catholics known to be influenced in their eon. they might wish success to that Bill, yet were jealous that Ronan duct hi religious or 'tarty prejudice." (lime. hear.) The sante, Catholic people generally were nee hicluded in a measure of more re nearly the same honourable testimony, could be borne in favour general :eller. The present Dills, be thought, proposed such mo ot* the satisfactory manner in which Roman Catholic gentlemen dilication of the existing laws as would be consolatory to the people. discharged their magisterial ditties. Ile would all upon the House if the pate:deal benefits it conferred were not Yee) , great, the beta.. to bear in mind, that at a period—a more critical one than the pre. faction with which they would be received would he so; and he mat, or than he ever hops( this country would again experience— would be glad to see the maxim of Lonl Bacon fulfilled. •• ('i the !loosen I 'Wholes were not hiegetful of their allegiance, but ern. cattalo's roe soletirre ad wines pertinirever." He th oug h t that the. dead faithful aid imporuent services, that were worthy to bean relief which bad formerly been given to the Irish Catholics had example and a model of proud imitation to the rest of the empire created such satisfaction then, as to enable Government more eftie. The !woof Cary then administered of their fidelity and loyalty, tually to resist threw appliaitions now. should now be rewarded, and the Mlle so, as that reward required herd ItEl/ESD.II.L thought the opinions of the Noble Lord only the performance et an set of justice to the Parties who sought wow rather to support the general measure of Boman Catholic it, and at the same time an art of practical benefit to the empire. relief, than the partial consideration of it suggested by the ( lieu. hear, hear.) flaring adverted to the principal situation, of Bills now before the Ileum. Thule Bills bad quite altered their which he hoped to make Catledies eligible by the bills he propesal form from the original proposition they professed to effect. A cer- to pass, lie would mention one class of satiatitms which he did lain improvement was protested to be &mai at, hut a most import. not intend to introduce in the present Bill ; not because he thought ant alteration its the laws would be effected by the Bills in their necessary to omit it, but thou who would approve of the Bill present taupe. One conceesion was followed by ar.mher, until at otherwise mi g ht d o so, an d h e was unw illi ng t o clog the measure length every hold sod security of the ascendancy of the Protestant se hit id.a saes which might operate to prevent its final success. The religion, and Church and State. Were surrendered. lie knew that I eituatioap to which he alluded were thou in the household. '('hen: his el )i ll hill on this .:object had made hint litany enemies, and t h at ., in the capital of Ireland it was preached op th a t it wou ld h e l aw f u l was one situation, however, which he would propme to includ e in the trrevietone of this hill-that was the situation of the Ilereslitary to assassinate him (bunt Itcdcodale). the Human Catludic Bi- Earl Alarelial of England. held, or rather claimed, by the Duke of shop, on hearing it, however, reprimanded the person who had ad. Norfolk. Among the many distinguished buxom, which, through winced such au wieertion. If anything were smiting to chew the several centuries, and a long line of illustrious ancestors, gathered unfitness of making further comets:does to the Catholics, h e round the brow of that Noble Duke—uniungst the numerous and would refer the Douse to the late preeeeding,rs of the Catho. proud memorials of the high Witco( his family, sit which the tapes. lic Association in Dublin. If there were a line of circumval. try that adorned thou walls was not the least perithable record— lotion abeet the establidiment of the church , beyond which WWI that of Ilerellitery Carl Marshal of England. In th e •it would be impossibk to pass, he then would not obj e ct t o patent which nunferred other honours at this period, although I the introduction of the present Bills, but that we t n ot t h e he did not find in it the grant of this aittiation, it was slit- CI'S!. With regard to die exercise of the office of Earl Mar- 1 timely stated that they were given " as a reward of great shad by the Noble Duke, whose name was mentioned in the allegiance and important services," And this was the testi. Dile he certainly would not oppose it, though he thought it Might ninny of a Protestant King, Charles 11. to a Catholic Noble. to form the euteeet of a separate Itill. Ile would oppou filmset: man, rimer father bed clung with the nowt persevering attachmen every come-totem to the Catholic,. The Irish Ro u en (tieteeke to the fate of that unfortunate man. It watt extremely unjust that were rattly to mete with violence the eatablishment el the church a name of hie exalted rank %timid be extended Iniall that station itself; they dal not disavow it. Ile would not agree to nay pan o f ',hid, hod h eet , t h ee 4 . oi de tee d r oe t h e m er it s and services of hi s de. Bills. If the claim of the Duke of Noreek were made the ancestor.. and that his nettle should not It, included in the annual SUbjeCt of a separate Ilill, it ahntall hare his support, as far as in Indemnity Bill. so as to enable into to appear as he ought to de at . related to the discharge of hit functions ; but he would itteist on the I 'institution and other great State curt inoniela. Ile whaled t o j withholtlitig from Min all politicd power. accompany whet he haul said of this eimation with a statement of 1 The Mellott of LICHFIELD said, that he cetieidertel the the reasons that prevented the Noble !hike from the attainment of I subonlinetion of opitii.in which the Roman Ca:ludic, timid to foreign the privilege to fully enjoy thou honours which so well became away, stud which formed an /secede] part of their religion, must hi m . It waft from an new illiegmes in th e mind of that Nobl e !Vet preeem at 11101 d Material and insuperable molted for their ok - Lord to seek for any advantage permit:,! ei Ititustlf, or for the r,- elusion Irmo l'arliament ; hut although he thought dee exelmion emery of any political right, without including the rights of those :lust and fele. yet he would lie inclitud to greet them everything similarly situated as leattettle Ile mulerstoed that a high legal au. that Mild be given coneistently with the peewit>. of the Coeeti ii dimity had been eonsitlt“l, and declared that the Noble Iftike of lions and lie therefore ••• ~,, jtrou•d for depriving them of the elec. wittms he spoke al Id not 011ieiate at the late Coronation in the tier franchise, as hr wan of OpildOn t:litt every Ilielidier of the rap:Wily of Earl alarelial. It was stated to amount t o a n em, ememunity had a right to vote for the representation of his intere. es , Melanin. for any lemma to advise the leieg to iwirmit a Roman ('a. utdesedebarred for some moral offence; and as the Hill then befitre thole: to fullil the duties of this elm:ltem. Ile did nut pretend tot the HOWSe Watt einditlad to title pone, he had no objection to it, as I he very learnt-41 in poiiits of legal nicety, but he was at Lime to I the 11,easiku Catholic would then be repremated in his polite; al and I know in what the miedemeapor c0rei31. 7 41, in what the danger was 1 party prejudices, and with a due regard to hie litinitlaie comforts. ^ to be apprehended to the constitution folio the fulfilment of phi, or , and his religious prieciplu a would be alone oveluili it, art' whi c h I any oiler aituation from the present Duke of Norfelk, or from any I were neeenuttily so. as they were incompatible with the peweable I larson who war likely to succeed hint. Ile would esti upon any I maintenance ol the E-tsliii,hcil Church. Ile thought dud the Mrs- j ion. Mender of that I liime to lay his band upon his heart, and sure propout! by the Dill Was just and re:tunable, and ore that 1 to Sly really if he effiertained any serio u s apprehension front such I ought to le: supported by every mguntent diet coned It! hrongia to nn event, or from the passing of any of the Dill" which he now in. bear un it. The Reverend Prelate urged Noble Lords to ph is , te e ire duc a l. T ,p he greet ohjeet, which he pi,.,..-,1 to attain was the i I English Homan Catholics on a level With the Itoillan I 'atLiilics of I ts:al,ll,hunvil of a sys cot of uniformity el the laws it, Illreeted the I !relent', and by so doing to deliver e cause so dear to Ilitoit all its Catholics; for it COIOII not hue reconciled to any notions of reseon i the Puttee:tot ascendancy mute be fr. to any itiLitlialy : they ti t ig;it i ' or justice, that the Catholics of Citgleitil should be euleect to pe. I then sey to the Roman Cetleil tee •• %Vt. respect ion as men, we re .. unities fitim which the Irish l'alltol.c Was eSelllpt. He hoped that geed you as tellow-citizens and friend', and are oely anxiotia that die Measure Woldd nut nits be niet by dm,: renend miapicions you 1110111 d ralllnVe 1 . (01111/ittiradreti that barrier Whit' II pie semi an w hich it ere usuully dealt out in the distil., ion of 1110. question, said obstacle to the !oddment of any hopes that an honotiretee ambition that it would pass with the warm atyr •eal of the I louse, if' some cur teed you to form." (Bear, hear.) apecitie case were 11111 stated against it. The Icsra to he eidertained 'l'lle Itishop of tilt:S . l'El( remarked, that the mile queetion for should he rational flush Just, suit 11 . 14, 1 10 . 111 , 1 i 1:a1:1111111r. 'There a-as a the ronsiolt.ration of titter lewd:o.4,s was, whether a greener degree ' rule in moment:l; danger of this kind, a n d adoeted by eh r. Burke, of • iSil liberty could be conceded to the Heinen 4'351101W.: Than that mot shi,li rot would kr well to ole.eree tool am.:e to the present iptea- alreuily litaista•Cil by thew, without endangering One est:111164011 po tion, •• non stiepieto cteuelibet vaai et iertriculted tails pit Wien! illidittilians tit' the issuntry ? Ile et rtninly tilt mid etherne t ' pieeit cadent in liontineiti conetantent et non iteetientem." If the the hardship cauplained sit as to the exclusion of the Nolte. Duke teem he DOW aeked for had been retooled its Ireland, Where the 'lieu case formed one of the prineipal features in the Dille then I 'admit: leek , f .11 an tweet• and powerful population ;if the befune their Lonlehips • hut he would oak, were the exclusioos tha eeteeeion te. that botni Intl 10,11 foetid to be Lalt 3111:101Cti with any the Bills proposed to do away necessary ? Ile thought they were., of atose brad einseettencee which the idle apptelittneinto of mime as toleration was not confined tut religion, but to ' , di m es also; and peraatis anticipaitst, Low reasonable nest it out appear to grant I he did nut think chat any case hint been made out, calling tot th e to the Etterli t 'at I oil its, the emu/. tiri vilegee, when it wart considered eitivemtneso se eive further prieilegee to persons profeetingopinion3 thitt the bode on wl they were conferred were cimmaratieely subversive sit' die power for which such gov e rn men t wee formed. few, that tit' h polit teal Mile of die ineesitre must be less extensiv e , I The Homan Catholic church maintained the ecclesiasticalsovereign. and ahem meleovet, that betty coesi•tol of noel exemplar tor Ity of the Homan l'oraitf__ their pviice.l'ile Conililet and dietth .. as eree of their &lin usefu l and Dittirunt kiperiams, rum Jove, Ca.:a r : w h e t, I I , s:a AtthiLel, lot the !louse cm eethe what impression this rejee.. Any one acquaireed with history must be aware of the ecclesiastical .e•ui of the rioted ineistar.• of relief most hare stir the mind* of thou power of die Peeve. of a hich he would give a Ain't illitetretion. A 1 t 'admit,* of !reined who were looking forward to the enjoyment ra t ; great number of Homan leatholie poor were Settled in the neigh- ' 1 more enlarged Wee ty--a luau was the - levant that it would teach the , bottrhood where he resided, who refused to work on the Sennett! t - .thol e s of thitt ceutitre, th it mart tahaliCe was to be plarill in the • day'S and holiday a appointed by their church. A compleint Was I tee, of numbers then in mewu act, in stervicee- -that their go o d madam the priest who •uperintended them; he defended them u the' I ...millet was little available fn the eetetteion of threw privilege., to apadolic vicar was next applied to who said he would r e f er i t to i t s hide hi that gem' conduct. slit y lied vintlicettel their just pre. t the Pope i thew, men si hen they hei:rd this, declared th a t th e y wou ld tension. ; and that the qui,: &permute they had evinced was not work wit( autlionty front the l'ope. Ile merely metitioned I not the most likely to anus to att.int the recevery of those political this to sheer the ext.nit of the Papal ledisence among the Homan I 0‘1%0010 . 4ve 0111. ii II was their right tool the rood Of the empire Cathidieti in this country, end that they would not yield to th e • that th.) thould enjoy. tl I ...Jr, beer.) The Nettle Lord concluded tempt/441m nilfil authorities. And k should be remembered, that I by moving thk second railing of the English Catholic Relief , that establishtnent was anwearted in its attempts *make converts ; Bilis. !their priests were for ever with the sick. The Reverend Prelate Lord COUCH ESTER rose to oppose the Bill. The Noble !said that he should desert his duty if he did Dot vote against the Lord spoke with his back t o t h e part of the House allotted for moond reading of the Bills. It m . t then be asked, whether stringers, and in so low a tone of voice, as only to be distinctly Catholics were to be for ever from having those rights audible at intervals. We und erstoo d him to say that the pettedly/eland privileges enjoyed by their Protestant fellow , tubjects ? He of the Rills introduced by the Noble Marquis was the tame as that I held that this exclusion should not continue beyond its necessity, contained in . t . other measures of relief at et' • times introduced winch would eels' so -as they held that the Pope of Rome, _ and not the King of Ettglartd, wu at the head of the Church in the British dominions. The lAIRD CHA NCELIAIR began by observing, that it was his misfortune to differ an this point front many Noble Lords, fur whose opinion. he entertained the highest respect ; but he felt it to he his duty to take care that none tut the privileges of the Supreme Ilea/ of the Church of England should be abridged or destoyed. The Noble Marquis who had introduced the subject had only given notice for the second reading of one of the Rills, yet he believed that he was not out of order in bringing on both Bills together; yet the Bills mete In their nature and consequences different and dis tinct. When the foundations of the whole of the laws that regu lated the constitution of this country OHM to be considered, every one must admit that it would have been absurd and inconsistent not to have restricted the power of voting by the Oath of Supre macy ; or did the Hight Rev. Prelate who advocated the extension of the elective franchise to Roman Catholics, mean to contend that touch a measure would have no influence on the parson sent to re present them, or how did he moan to distinguish an eligibility to elect from an eligibility tube elected ? No man ever thought : from the year 17tf.1 at least, that it was necessary to glee relief to the English Roman Catholics, by granting to them the elective franchise. Much had been said about the Act of 1793 conceding to the Roman Catholic' in Ireland ; but it should be remembered, that no man could voti there unless he brought a certificate with him as to his having taken the oaths of the 13th and 14th of Geo. 111., and a part of which oath was the maintenance of the right is the Throne of his then Majesty, his heirs and successors. To say that the Bill which it was now attempted to introduce was to insert what no man's ability would enable him to maintain, it was true that its provisions might be altered in the Committee. The Irish Acts were not conhned to officers belonging to the Revenue. These Bills, in short, attempted no such thing as putting the English Roman Catholics' oo the same footing as the lush. The Noble Marquis hail alluded to an opinion which he had given relative to a Noble Duke mentioned In the Bill. He did not shrink from that opinion, and if he were now asked he should declare, that the Earl Marshal of England could not constitutionally discharge his func tions unless he took the oath of supremacy; and he was sure that the 1•311 Officers of the Crown could never advise that an Act of Inde y would cure such an omission. No man could deny, that if such privileges were granted to one there were thousands out included in the Bill who would have an equal right to them ; but the main objection that lie had to the Bill was paving the way fur a gradual irruption on the Constitution. lie hoped he I was not arguing too strongly against the rights of his fellow , subjects, for he would nut go the length of Mr. Justice Black , by saying, that those who denied the su meaty of the stone p ' King ought lint to be considered as subjects; yet it they were to emi cede those points they would not know where to stop, and lie felt it to be his business to take care of the supremacy of his Sovereign. Ile would refer Noble bunk to history, not one of whom, perhaps, hail Mud the curiosity to read the Ist of William and Mary ; but let them look there, and see what was meant by the suiremacy of the l'npe. He put himself forward, and was ready to encounter all the censure that might attach to the declaration that he then pro mulgated—that no subject was entitled to the privileges of the Bill then before the House, if he refused to take the Oath of Supremacy to the King. Ile repeated, that he felt it to be his duty to guard the throne, and to take care Lbw a test should be administered in all temporal matters. The Bill professed to get rid of an anomaly, be rendering the laws of England analogous to those of Ireland. But they could not do that without destroying the analogy that existed between England and Scotland ; and he did not think that the countrytjwould be justified in deserting the laws that assimilated be. to Scotland, sod which had existed and nourished since the reign of Queen Anne. During the last n years an attempt had been made to take the Church of England by storm ; that was over, and he trusted that it would not now be destroyed by sap ping and mining. The opinions that he was then delivering were the result of an honest and conscientious conviction, and he trusted that they would he received with the saute feeling that he skewed to the opinions of others. Ile had been charged with bigotry, but his maxim was, to do what lie considered right, and to leave the result to find. The Earl of LIVERPOOL observed, that every thing that he hod heard since the last discussion of the Catholic gunmen, so far from strengthening his opinion of the propriety of granting what was called Catholic Emancipation, convinced him more and more of the imperious necessity for refusing it. But he felt that the questions brought forward in that Bill funned no part of it, or it they did the Noble Marquis had reduced them to a very limited shape. The question of the admiission of the Catholic claims was always one of the degree he saw in their points, the policy of which was clear; he saw hi their points the policy of which was doubt tful, and he saw also to their points the policy of which was dan gerous. He had no difficulty in saving, that by the C o n st i tu tion of this country the King 'Pinola be Protestant, the Council should be Protestant, the Parliament should he Protestant, and the Judges should be Protestant. The principle that governed one governed all ; it was a clear intelligible view of the subject ; but he thought it a reffactio ad ohsavdant to go or. and say that it was necessary also that the tirlewniters should he Protestanty.dte Constitution re" no such cluing. It was necessary, fur t e security of the Con stitution, that the high and responsible Officers of the State should be Protestant. 'There was reason in it. He was not inclined to oonceda any point that might be considered as dangesuus ; but when be came to a step where there was no danger he would yield it. Ile would take away every petty obnoxious topic, and leave nothing but the broad and solid objection; and he was really and sincerely con. vinced, that not only pro 'onto would they . do good, but they would render his position stronger and more important. The elective franchise was granted to the Catholics of Ireland, where they were powerful and dangerous front their number. No evil had resulted from this concession, whichthad been granted by the Irish Parlia ment on the recommendation from the Throne. What could be lefties!, then, from conceding to a tew thousands of the English Ca tholics 2 There cenobite was no danger here, and he could see no goal ground for withholding it. There was also a principle of ge. nor city in it. It had been granted to the strong, and they surely ought to ) ield it to the weak. Much had been said about oaths. It was well known that election oaths were worth very little (cries of " Hear, hear"); indeed they were seldom tendered but for purposes of delay. Indeed he saw no danger to the Protestant Establishment from granting this privilege. It seemed there were two Bills ; he should have been disposed to being on the strongest point first, yin against the Office Bill, which wee confined to the Officers of the Revenue, Justices of the Peace, and the office of Earl Marshal, as held by the Duke of Norfolk. The lat ter point was certainly more fit for the subject of a separate Bill, but he entertained no sort of objection to it. With regard to the Justices of the Pence, he did not reel the difficulties that many Noble hotels apprehended, but lie still tilt that it was a mine de. hateable point ; but with respect to Officers of the Customs and Excise, lie hail no opposition whatever to offir ; that was an evil that required an immediate correction. Ile was not afraid of the Catholic question; he knew the opinion of the country too well to apprehend being taken by surprise on that subject. Ile was of opinion that wisdom consisted in knowing where concession ought to be given, and where it ought to be limited. 11 e ronfisscd that he saw nothing dangerous in the objects embraced in the present Bills, and he should therefore give them his support. The Marquis of LA NS! COW N shortly replied. The Clouse then divided. stun there appeared— For the Ist Bill, Cornelis Prom's- - 3n-101 Non-rontants 71 l'rexues . . -1351 31.:jority 311 For the Bill, Cont..ll:s . 177 ... 42-109 ritentl 71; . . . 14-143 Iklajorit y . The llouic adjourned nt n. HOUSE Or (1)31 MI /NS, 11oNn►r, MAT 21. ST. CATHERINE'S DOCKS. 3Tr. Mixt; rrtment"l t inti.ion tram thC;c7tor and inhabitants of St. Grorge. 'Southwark, praying to be heard by counsel against the St. 1 Atli; r.re's I b. , r1;., 11111. Alm bfitlie ebiervatintis from Mr. P. 11;8 EgrELL, Mr. N. CAL VEIIv, Alderman 111.‘ 4. ATE, anti 31r. Hu TTERWORTII, the petittot: war referred to tile Committee on the +mid 11111. 31r. Bt . sI: presented .itniiar 1n titi.unfron -- ; the New River 12.utipsny, attd flee iudicidual., named William Rell and Robert ; and ttr.othcr poi!ion of the .3111 C nature was pre ented from etetsin 0 Nl:era of num s , by NI r..%ldetnian Bridges. thy the liep.irt of Or .tlliance 11111 being brought up and ordered to be tngnwow d %Ir. I'. (;:u:srEt,i, asked what sorority persons were t, have under this Bill, witether it were to rot on the Secretory or on what oiler source ? Mr. lII'SKISStIN said that was not his intention to allow the Bill to pa., the without itor. , ditc;ng into it a clause. h) which. in the event of a verdict Laing o:.tailied. it should he in the 1141Wer of the percent obtaiaing mach verdict to !idea any individual subacrilver, and to levy for the anicitint demanded on his goods. Ile should therefore ripest!. that the minus of all subscribers be enrolled lit the S•amp.etlice, in order that it may be universally known who the intoierit,rs were, and that the alliance should not be legal until such cnrolittrit had takel place. In 11111.1. i Cr NO a question Irma Mr BRIDGES. Mr. IIUSKISSON said th.it it was no new principle, but ore generally adopted in all I) .-k l'ompanks. When the enrol i.ent takes place. it waa intended that each individual subscriber should l a k e up o n hirna..lfrhia resiam.illility. and othitinue to be responailde until lie hail replaced hie Lank: by that of another to whom he had disposed of his share. .... 1.1)SI11'N I)( R 31r. JOHN S3IITII pri.ei.ttil a petition from the Rev. Samuel Benson, against the builititig of the South London Docks.—Re fermi to the t'ommittee. r. SPRING R I brought up the Report of the Committee on the Irish Mining ('ostipan) 111.1. The rnolutions were agreed tq and the Report ordered tole engrossed. C.% T /I.IC EM.I PATI()N. Mr. M. DAICSON presented s petition from the Roman Ca tholics of Clonmel, praying for Catholic Emancipation.—Laid on the table. BEER BILL. Mr. DV NO presented twtition arum the llama trictualees of l.'xtriilge. against the Be. ft Dill. Similar petitions were presented by Mr. F. PALICERI Rom two parishes in Berkshire ; by Mr. S. Wu nr LET, rim the brewers ,of llrentford ;by Mr. Monet. from two parishes in Oxfordshi re; ' and by Alderman HEYGISTr.. from Sudbury—Laid ro the table. NEtilttS SLAVERY. I Colonel DA VIES presented a petition from the citizens of Woe• tester, praying the abolition of Negro Slavery. A aiiiiilar petition was presented by Mr. SCARLETT from the in. habitants of Peterborough ; and another from Rythe. Lord STOPFORD presented a petition from the Freemasons of Enniscurthy, and another from those of Wexford, praying to be ' placed on the same footing as the Freemasons of England.—Laid on the table. AFFAIR OF DEMERARA. Mr. !STANLEY preserted a petition from a ministrr and re o ., gregation in. Derby. and another from Warrington, in Laacaahire, praying for an inquiry into the recent transactions in the island of Demerara. Ilis Lordship also presented a similar petition Item persons of various religious permissions at Manchester ; which se e lard on the talle.ar.d ordered to he printed. Mr. 154()N presented a similar peritionotigned be up. wards of four thousand of the inhabitants of the town and neigh, botirlossl of LiverpooL The Hun. Gentleman Laid. that at the subject was to conic before the House in a Inure formal war, Le should fur the present ab•uin from making any remark. on the prayer of the petition.—Laid on the table, and ordered to b e pnnted. Mr. BROUGHAM postponed his motion relative to the :fair at Demerara to next Tues da y week. Mr. 111 ISSON presented • petition, from the merchants, bankers, and others, of Liverpool, which, he stated, was of grea t public importance. The statement of the petitioners war, the although during the last reign no Its than fifty-eight Arts is.l been passed for the protection of the corn.growers. in ti try, since the year 1315, corn had fallen so low as 335., thws pr,f_ ing that monopoly had not been of advantage to this hymn of trade. Th.• petitioners, therefore, prayed that such a duty might be ',laced on corn as would prevent its perpetual finetuaunn in pric„., and at once protect the corn-grower and be beneficial to the as sumer. The Right Hon. Gentkman thought that such a messu.e would be productive of good effects. more espectaily to the firmer. Mr. CI. RTEIS thought the present time would be the best for the agriculturists to enter on the subject, were it not that the 'e► sion lied an far rules:iced. Mr. PHILLIPS supposed that the House might consider the sentiments of the Right lion. Gentleman as a pledge that the sub. ject was to be considered more maturely. Mr. IVIIIT3IORE agreed with the Right Hon. Occident= at the sentiments he had adopted. Ile would himself bring Forward such• measure, if it were not done by his Majesty's Ministers. Mr. 111 *SKISSON, in alluding to an observation of the lion. Member (Mr. (mirs), said, that he would have e..t objection to give up all the papers relative to average, which the Hon. Gentle man had stated would open the door to fraud, did be not think that it would prevent nubile justice. The petit sin was laid upon the table, and ordered to be printed. FOREIGN WOOL. Mr. HUSKISSON presented a petition from the growers of wool in Erktiale, against the importation of foreign wow. Mr. CHAPLIN presented a similar petition tram two parishes in Liacolnshire.—laid on the table. GAOL BILL. Mr %VGA RTON presented a petition from the Justices of the Peace of Northallcrton, in favour of the Gaol Bill. Mr. CH A LLONER expressed his disapprobation of the BilL— Laid on the table. HIDES AND SKINS. Mr. DI:NMAN presented a petition from the hatcher. of Not. tinghatn. in favour of the Hides and Skins HilL—Lald on the table. Mr. S. M'ORTLEI' presented a petition from Tewkesbury, against the Hidesand Skins Bill. _ _ — A similar petition was presented by Mr. K. DOUGLAS from the burgh of .Innan..—Lwad an the table. Mr. DEN MAN moved fora return of the number of persons eommhod for tnisdemeannes, on wham sentence had been passed at the Court of King's Bench ; also of the number of penons who allowed judgment to (T re l 4 .l default ; and also of the n ature itt the artitente, par•td.--4 hd 31r. St : .IItI.ETT presented a petition from Mr. Fitzgerald, praying for compcwistion for looses sustained in consequence uf the County Courts BilL—foid on the table. (lASI F. 1.1 WS. Mr. S. WORTLEY postponed the further consideration of the Report on the Game Laws Amendment !MI to Friday next. COUNTY COURTS. Mr. R. PRICE presented a petition from Ross, in the county of Hereford, in favour of the County Courts BilL—Laid on the table. SCOTCH POOR LAWS. Lord A. 11.13111.T0N rose to present a petition to the House, and he was at the same time desirous of reinnen4. miarepresen. tation, certainly unintentional, by which h e h a d made to give his support to the measure against which the petition he had then to present was levelled ; he meant the Stotch Poor• Bill (Hear). On the contrary, he had deprecated it as a measure universally dis. approved of by the people of Scotland, though he done justice to the pure motives by which his Hon. Friend (Mr. Kennedy) was influenced in bringing that subject before the House. he trusted that his lion. Friend would be induced to withdraw the Bill then heiterceiettl the sensation it excited in Scotland. The t uition was read. It c a m e f rom the Presbytorry of Annai. Mr. KENNEDY said that it was not now his Intention to press the Bill this Session. Ile was anxious, however, fur the sake of setting hiumell right with the public to have an opportunity of ex plaining the nature of a measure which Ind been 'much misappre , bonded. He had. on the suggestion of the Chancellor of the Ex chequer, consented to introduce the question to the House without prefacing it by a single observation. This, for the accommodation of the House) he had yielded to; and he now expected from the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that he would, on that evening, per m t him to make that explanation, rot for the sake of exciting any discussion, but for the purpose of setting himself right with the country. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, be cer. tainly could have no objection to any such statement from the Hon. Gentleman either when he mov e d the further progress, or as it now appeared, the postponement of the Bill. He was afraid, however, that he could not yield to the wishes of the Honourable Member, by permitting the subject to be taken out of its turn. There were two measures fixed for that evening, of arosideroble importance, and likely to cause a prolonged discussion, and what ever might hs• the views of the Hon. Member, he certainly could not promise that, with his own statement, all discussion on a sub. ject so interesting to Scotland should terminate.—Tbe petition was then ordered to he on the table. BEER BILL. Sir E. K N.ITC II Bri.l.pres... -.72;cj; petition against the Beer Bill, from the publicans of .tyksfool, in Kent. THE•kI HK. S3I I I'll. Sir J. OSBORNE presented a petition from the inhabitants of Brystone, praying that the House would be graciously pleased to take into consideration the car of the Lite mosocw.ar s . smith. A 'Milky' petition from the inhabitants of /kraut+le was re sented by Sir 'P. Aelard—Onlered to lie on the table. Sir E. KNATClinru, presented a petition from the brewers of London, gigaton the Beer Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table. Lord G. CAI'ENDISH presmted a petition from the butchers of Chesterfield, in favour of the tittles and Skins Bill. Sir IL RICE presented a petition from the inhabitants of Edinburgh against any alteration in the Poor Laws. Sir C. HAlt‘'EY presented a petition, signed by between seven and eight hundred inhabitants of a town in Ease:, w tavour of the 'Small Debts Recovery BUIL . _ Mr. Rit lUIIT moved for a return of the number of persons as sessed tor the House Tat for fifty pounds, and upwards, during the last year.—Granted. MESSAGE FROM THE lA)RIH. ...... A menage from the I.cods annostne-xl that them Lordships had agretd to the Newfoundland Marriage Bill, and the Newtound. nd Judicature Mr. 1111'SKISNI/N moved the first reading of a Dill, the mime of which we could not hear. The Right lion. Gentleman stated, , hat it had passed the House last 51111i61106, but was rejected in the House of Lords. It watt read a first tine, and ordered to be read a second tittle on Thursday next. 111:Elt Itt . TIES HILL The CII.IN1 . 1:1.11.i IR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the Order of the Hay, for the further cot aideration of the It.-port of the Beer Hares Bill, should be read. The Order of the Day being re:ui, The CHANt'ELLOR of the EXt'll I:QUER moved, that the Bill should he re-committed. Mr. !8.% BERLY stated, that be hid some observations to offer to the House, notwithstandiog that the Right lion. flank man had withdrawn sonic of the nowt object/or:able parts of the measure. When that Bill wan last y:uir introducolto the House, he had ventured to call it a piece of experimental legialsion, and, like many experiments, it had ut erly failtd. He had then tenni mended most strenuously that 451100116 C referred to a Committee. It embraced many interests ; was in its objects mat important, and it was possible that it nub' undergo in the !louse that foil and detod..d discussion to which he cinceived it entitled. His op i sseition, unseen was unsuccessful. The Bill or the Right HO I 1;e1111t11:1O pas sed. It lived just one year, and it wits now fiIIIORTO up by a measure more practicable, perhaps, certainly not so full of objection, hut still containing within it ma:tor too nuomemous tea sudden and rapid decision. The present Rill had two objects in view. The first was :o put the duty on map', and the t.eettati to open the trade to free emnpetquen. In the tint place dun tins Bill, which professed to put a duty on malt, placed it indi rectly on beer. As to opening the trade, this was alleged to have been done for the benefit of the licensed victuallers ; yet thcv. all men, were most dissatisfied with it. But he agreed with the Right lion. lientleman that in point of principle free competition was most desirable ; butt all he asked oil this subject was, that at leaSt Milne inquiry before a l'ommittee should be rote into. This inquiry wan seldom refusal, atni it could not in this instance be te blend with grace. Ile should therefiere move that the Pill be re committed to this day six months fur the purpose of affording such inquiry. The question h e ha d to submit to the House was this, whether without any inquiry into the cirannatanors they voituld prrsnit this Bill in its present state to pass into a law ? This wan the simple pastiest, and he should with that conclude by mov ing. that tins Bill be recommitted tois day six months. Mr. Aide:luau W If II) seconded the amendment. ,tlr. If A V N /WV coriceired that the n:casunt proposed by the Right lion. I lentlen t an was calculated to produc e re s ults which he never citretittlated. It would lead to crime ..nd immonditv, since the :ascent would no longer fra g ment th e welLregulated house, in t he decorum of whose visitors the landlord was interested. lle would, on the contrary, visit the scene whore no authority el ided to control his licetitionsnees, and these houses would become the bane of good order. and the cunt, of every village in England. Thrl'H.hNCEl.l.tlß of the EXCHEQUER observed, that it would not be now necessary for him to discuss the policy of trans ferring the duty from beer t o ma l t , s i nce that was a subject upon which the House had long since recorded their opinion in deed it had no necessary connexion with tbe oilier parts of the ROT]. licntlentan's (Mr. .31abe el's; argnmona Ile accrued to think it I ~14 I i