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I CC7• Ilt k pt. 9 J•~'s wi -t raouil f o r areribiug to 1 int site h mo tive s as had sn litter:o4 attributed by the Hon. Gentleman. 1 1; el er l outi not only think it tight that the House hnuld es pri as itself as he had recommended, b u t i n mcli stronger ; it was frotn the whole a ,stunner II the evidence that the motive was to be collected, and not from detached facts ; if he hail not endea. v . m ired to stab the fame, s t ud asperse the reputation o f a g al int officer, he (Mr. Pereeval) would he one of the last m en to propose a mitigation of the cell sore of that House, then so justly excited. H o t teas there any thing in Lord Chatham's character o co untenance such an opinionr?-s-sras there any to in the transaction ibielf to give it probability ? list was ou t the advocate or defender of the counts! which then obe Ld hail thought proper to pow plrepaorer d t state. that the delivering sue. H of the narnative to His Alejesty, without (badman!: hi s purpose In any one, was not a condnet which any man eau l . l approve of. Bat then the victims' was. With what punishment would the 'loam resolve to „i 4 i t i t ?.....a a .nreilly, according to the Motive ; if the luc rative was inteimet To -condemn Sir R. Strecker', oh y did he dela" to ilelivert so long? or, why waS it made public at all ? If it was intended to remain T eret. hid from the face of day, why should he have taken it h mit, for the purpose of sroo dioz it ? The situation iu which his Lord ship was placed was a complicated one. From au eb,ervation of the consequences, he (Mr. Perceval) should never again advise that a Commander of an Expedition should he a Othinet Minister, out efrest. the mixed character. mixed ditties and feelings Bat it was sot fair to infer from that m e msses , when the ;topless , feeling was so meat 'gyp • 4 him, as ConMiander of the Expedition, t h a t he ass induced, by any illiberal or malignant &dr', to act the part he had taken. He world add, t o o, I pt lie hod spoken of the Expedition. that, from the evidenee which appeared at the bar, no misconduct could attach to the Noble Lord in the reauct Or it. tie had erreneoasly. he would allow, determined to deliver a narrative to His Majesty ; hut, though lie disapproved of that step, he did sot think it deserving of thane epithets which had been am copiously bestowed upon it. He thought it rodent, from the nature of the thing itself, that they s'ormuld adjourn the consideration till Monday nest. The Hon. Gentleman had attributed to Lord Chatham an Intention of spreading dissension be tween the two services; bat there was ne reason for supposing any such thing. lie had stated that the riper was given in at a time when His Majesty's Government had determined there should be no inquiry ; bat it was deteratiiied long before that time, to lay the papers which induced the Govern ment to send the Expedition, before them ; and which wrist to corroborate the fact, that no blame could attach is either servii e. ft was strongly lamated to him by the Gentle.nen MI th e opposite . t.itte, that if he hail any regard for his own cha racter slid dignity, he would not remain an instant "tithe Cabinet ith Lord Chat' , a moifter hal disdain ing to elimailt them ; it was, indeed. an may_ task to sassier, Gentlemen had only to wait until Mitsisters acted, and then to slide how march better it would hum been, if they had ogled in the routrary manner. if bail Chatham had acted in the manner, sod with the motives attributed to him. he would have to liNititiou to say, that such a person should no lase:er iw a colleague of his; but, under all the eir- C111114i1110.11 of the ease, if they discarded hit% while YR 191 1 11111 was isahendiseg over them all, *hat • then be staid ? Maid it net be void, that they had taken advantage of the slip g a colleague, is order to ',tine themselves? He would not almodsn a colleague under such eirconistataces ; be cal not mean ts sty that he would defend luro, I l k sr wson 4 ; hot, involved in 14t1IllirtIt400111 elver, be would not desert him. He had now meted the rtaiois u:reso wbiclt tic thought they ahotrid post puke till, grist flotation till Mooday next ; either upon this hi.4hr, or apnu Monday, it was his inten tynissi to more, that it should not be put at all. He had an objection to naming it that night, ter, 1 tha t4 ii he was iscrwmailly ',repaired to take this eftes , lie did nut think that the Members. in ge• stab were sufficiently micquainted with the evi dowts to pronounce a decided opinion either way. He would. thorefore, propose, that it should be adjourned to Monday Peet. Mr. Laa ND disapproved of the manner in which IneChancello• of the Exchequer attempted to taro The dribste. The question before them nos a greet .4acount-tool question, laud the evidence quoted ky hi. lion. Friend, nothing but a contirination of Carfi charge. e »oak] take the liberty to make a fe. oh.ervations upon time mousier in which the Ihght ilea. Gesitlernan (Mr. Preceral,) had con cocted the &ream or a Cabinet Minister. The (milie u , as proposed, was • great eonstitu ;tam' que s tio n ; b ut t h e Ri g h t !Immutable Gen- Milan had eurleavoured to convert it into • illiberal, pentane, attack; and said, that it usual ) 10-eatme Lord Chatham) differed from them ash" that their censure was so loud against ao. For his owe part, he should say. that din. dearest friend was in office with him. and con duit-1 hina*ell in such a manner ma Lor I Ch at h am had dour, lie would despi se h im u s a po litician, and r i ze.tin halo as a man. His Hon. Friend, so far liati:sg used the language attributed to him liaflaininatory declamation). had condacted himself tareatthant, with the utmost moderation. amid with all that ahil.ty bwohictehrl o f was accustomed to display. st lamentation with the great- Om secret influence existed; an influence east *lli justly represented as dangerous to the mdtmo, and to the Isappioess of the country. T iot e d Mr. Burke, who tia.:ed the hit ' ur tier toil. and expo-ed its consequences to I :, W .ti ti . ..tiz ig to ina,menerid.) If th e t i latency of the pronotiove an 0,,i ~ ion upon lord * testimony. he 'solid be as anxious as 6 a tar the delay slow re asmotrudal ; but us 14, ran • Il It un;""II Vestioo was completely aeparate met lemma that. lie noshed that it fthould he busia:disiely. In this awe, tier favourite C orc was admitted to the ear of the Save trilege he had abitatsi. The system vas Jere ed in it* crterations ; a " nutmust al tiasately tend to make ' 4o .rrortie,ll t:be set vice perplexed, rotate. 10,4TUIC t. , t 1 %47•14 V Kir Corn pi111..01C:11 Mr. Whithreml t c.i.p , r And moderation 41'144-aved by him in 44, tviward th.s IA ^11011; y. t, if the parkin , ' "t 140 i on ly of great cunstitut;o3.ll inert' acme, but of thestmest tonseqeenee, ai imprieat• ing the character of an 'stilted individual, it ought ro he brought On at a tome when not even the shadow of on objection, or argument of pre& potency, could he raised against it ) either by the House, or uny Member of it. This was his opinion ; and though he did not think it was at all rasteoial to look ut the pduted inmates of the premed exa minetion of Lord Chatham. ret, were it only to avoid the argument of thee 'emotes being adverted to, as he understood they were in one of the reso- lutions, while they were not fully before the Nov.., he should deem It expedient to postpone the din. cuseion fill Monday, when they would be fully in possession of the whole. Hid the previous question been put on this °cession, he would not have sup. ported it ; but the short adjournment proposed was, he thought, for the reasons he had just stated, ed. visable. Not that he was adverse to the modals.— He wes free to say, that, if he did not hear stropigcr arguments on the subject, on Monday, then he had this.night heard been the Hight Hon. Gently. man (the Chancellor of the Exchequer), he must be compelled to perform whet must ever be a painful duty, and mark with the reprehension of Parlia ment the cooduct of the Noble Earl, which was the subject of their discussion. The House must not pass over even en acknowledged tenor, without some reproof end expre.sion of the sense they en tertained or it. Bat this we. of great co.istitu tional, as well as individual importance, and it was better even that it should he lately than rashly de. tided on. if they attempted to do an this night, all the early part of their dither would 4.1 occupied, not on the merits of toe questiot. i•orlf, but ou the fitness of the time, and at u late hoar they would come to a decision, without having sufficiemly in• vestigated so vital a subject. Mr. WHITSSEAD observed. that as * new ques tion had oriseis, though be was •.rare he was not entitled to speak again, yet he treated the Hauge would indulge him for a few ;Moines; and tlw more so, as what he had to say might be the nouns of shortening the present debate. The Right Hon. Gentle man opposite had Lkeo the only possible ground on which a cora could he raised. The fact was, that be had agreed last night to postpone his motion till %social, unless the minutes of the second examination of Lord Chatham were printed, and distributed in time for the perusal of Members this day. He had gone to the rote vthce. to inquire if they had been delivered, and learnt that they bad sot ; but,oll coating into the House, tie was mkt bed by an Hon. Fuirud, that the mat ter had been settled, after he left the House last night, and that it would certinoly conic oat to-d.iy. But what was the real state of the (location with respect to these minutes, when he had so construct ed his resolutions, as not tar embrace la smote point contained in them, except tioe small porno] ph. which any Gentleman could understand, from its lying oil the table, iii the twhilthog oleo eye. /Hear!) Under these circumstances, hr did rut expect to be ac cused of wishing to hasten on, prematurely, any decision. implicating the character of an individual. He did net expect to be accused of wishing in ►ake the House by stirprie. Hr should hay.: thought the Right Hon. Gentleman oppoote would have had little inclination again to try the esperinsint of eudeavooritig to prevail on tha. H .use to post pone their discussions front Friday to Munday.-.. And what was to be done oil Monday ?—The Hou.Gentlemsu had told them he would more the peerless question. He *,shed him joy of his estate for two days; but, lest it might be imputed to him, that Ire bad attempted surprsr, and would.con.ent to the adjournment till Monday, on this express condition and understanding. that the House would immediately take up the adjuurised debate, and ' that nothing of any sort of interference of other mitre, so far as detwaided nit the Right Hon. Gentleman, should take plsc4l General GROSVENOR thenked the Hon. Gentle men for bringiug forward this i;i,russion. He was persuaded. in so far as he we. enabled to view the ease. that the more the conduct of his Noble Friend (Lord Chatham) was canvassed, the more the House would be satisfied with that conduct. General Lorrus. alluding to the understanding come to by Mr. Whitbread last night, conceived that the House had his pledge not to bring on this subject tamight, and he was surprised, on coming down to the House, to find the case otherwise. The CVANCILLOR of the EICNIQUIR acceded to the proposition of Mr. Whitbread, awl the de bete was adjourned till Monday. when it will take precedence of all other business. Mr. CreevWs motion, which stood for Monday, was postponed till Thu rsday. The CHAUCULLOS of ibe EICHINIVER noticed. that accounts of the expense of the Portuguese army taken into British pay, sisal of the numbers of that army, which were necessary to the discus sion of that question, could not be laid before the House tall Monday. He therefore proposed to postpone the debate, on this subject, which stood for to-day. till Friday nest. This was agreed to. Mr. P.IiIISONDY proposed, that if the Scheldt In quiry could not pmesilily he gone into on Monday, ell account of the other important thecussion which would occupy the House, it might stand for Tues day.—Agreed to. Mr. C•LCRATT understendiog. from the return kid before the House, that the Board of Ordnance haul when no security from Mr. Hoot. gave notice that Ire would call the attention of the House to this on Thursday. tith Morel). PLACES IN REVERSION. Mr. HA IM LI brought op Use Report of the Com mittee appoiuted to a.x4soine the Jootirels of the Lords on the poliect of the Reversion Dill. which was laid on the table. fk then gave notice, that be womild, ea Tuesday next, move fur an Address to His Meje , ty, praying that no more plates rn revension might be granted. The subject of the ..wortotino of foreign linen was discussed iu n Committee, sad their report or dered to be received on Montle). _ l'ite Mutiny 801 l woo read n 9.cond time, sod bralsired to be committed ou Monday. COASTING WARFARE. Lord Cot mason said. he had given notice, at the end of last session, of his intention, tally in the pre sent, to call their attention to the subject of co operating with tip- Spaniards. be esorloyilig a mili tary force afloat on their coa.t., in the Mediterr... ne4u. This, he was cony netd, would be the best Leans of assisting the Spanish people, and allay ) ing theeaeaty. who °mottled the *bale coast of Cata lonia, in small drtaehments. of from 60 to itoo area. by which olefins they krpt down the countr). Dad kept open their eon etimmunications. righted to kaow if Miiiiriens were taclified to act co the system which he had laid ',flare them. The CHA cEi.t.on of the EXCUEQU Si I hotaght it would he better in the Noble Lord not to titfor.n the enemy of what was the best mode for their an noyance.. Lord COCIIRAXI disclaimed any such inteution, and had the subject come to be &wooed, he would have cleared the gallery. to p►event it. rln.closure. esseitirrod myself is hawing given up thi actual eommsod of th , 3rrny to it I left the IVlzaie of %Vat. cher,. , I gave it up to Ltro:tnent-C..eral Sir Eyre ; I Iris utf the stuff, nu it um, cxlt. d, of met Ymipc.l.ttuj, its lba usth of %;opteuther Duties the twelve' lirt.rin your Lordship', return from Wakhetci. mind the of your commanJ, did the I) r.turte'llg 41.4 P•ao , Z COMMA/1•1,141:.'er alt Its atffirult, s, .a.tce‘t •If to yuur I..urdeltsp's thel i, t,“ O. KS :at libuty to have returned; I bad gives, up the eurout.nd by order (rum the Secretary of State. Did the appointment of your Lordship's Staff erase on the nth of Srpteniber really cuonut positively say, but I . . . . . . take for grantid it ilid. Of how loony Aidn.rle•ramp did your Lordship's Staff con sist '—l think it cousisind of three 1 %oppose the qurstiou is meant to refer to uffirers on pay. Th.re is one Aid-de . _ . camp to roc as blast( r-t; rnrral Ur ... the Onivaoce ; that 1 ap. prebend toot to be included on the queetion. Your Lordship arrived at Baths oil the 24th of August ; was that the lint Case of your Lordship's being there t►ink it was. Did poor Lordship think the bombardment of rlushing siessitsary to its reiinection, or might it not hare fAlleis by in vestment on invested fur the purpose of Init.% at tacked Roo the bombardment of Flosisiog accessary to its reJue ' gee !..--The place was regularly besieged; it was uut uteri ly • Your Lordship having staled that you bail rereivrii odor aatioa that Cuts the state of the works of Auteero, Antwerp wan liable tit be taken My a eaarste mein, front a hunt J.d • your Lordship receive that information'-It was iv the in forinatior winch has been laid upon Cie table i I received it front the Secretary of State officially. Did may courervatiou lawn between your Lordship and time Secretary of State ' opt 11 .be subject of taking Antwerp by • essup-de.losotr—ldo not know absolutely by a c Alp de. seen; but I bad coeversatimos as to whether it might net betaken withost a regalar arse, ye without • bombard. went. In what way was it peopoard at that tine that Aat..erri shouhl he taken, if not 117 • cnsp•de ynrie yet willr.ut •—ze wr butobartlitieut the're had been an opening fo. It from the state of the works, and the wenkoess of the garl.iw, probably by assault. Did Load Csstlereagh expre s to -our Lordst..p any ex pectation tbst Antwerp womb! be 'Awn by asssoli itertsioly expreisird sorb expectation, under tit, encuta• stances wl.:cli I bare stated. Those circumstances mean the intelligence to vrtsi..6 snot Lordship ha:ref:wed heal in so had a state, and the gamier so wreak ma to admit of such • tile ware. Did Lonl C:..sleseath ioCrm your Lor.iship that be sup. pose 4 the works to be so weak, awl OW isnl.oll to he smelt a state, no that )our Lonlstop would he ahlo 14 lab. 't by es iseilt?—.lie seemed etetai•sly to thi3k that it inaght oe pos. aibleottwirr, the tsvnarahle curr Onvilanr.“ I have metstio-;ssi With all 16e iiitelligroce submitted to 'tier I.K .hip bf Lord Castlereagh, did your Lordship ever entertain nay expectatius that you Phvuid be able to take Am aelp by as sault !--1f that iutell:geiive, which represeeted for win dew card state of the work., and the abreacr of troops ta be great extent slated is souse of the isitellozener, had toraed out to he true, I eeemaily tlics.;:bt it miAlit ! w e e been tan . giblet° bare liken Antasrp by imam Inertias attack, pro bably by assault Is the Committee to understand, that the only intellgeore upon which those nos ~,,, err ass the in telligenee now before the Committee !—I hardly know how to *newer that question ea:wily, because th• Secretor! of State might have other intelligence; I do nut exactly knee whether the intelligence laid upon t►e tahle here is at the intelligence, but I concede it a all the intelligence the Su gretory of State posse.-ed. Did your Lordship ever make any disposition in roar own mind, or give Ally Inrom..tilni to any gentr4 otliine nailer yunr Lordship, of the mobability of an o•ozalt beulg under taken upon Antwerp?—No disposition certaialy I Le heve I stated ou a former nig'.l) was made ur could liars been made; it mast hate depended einieely un circus. stances, and having rcconaeittied the place very atten tively. Did your Lordship ever communicate to any general err soder your command the expectation tinned is guar Lordship'stoind awl that of Lord Castkreach, im the event sf the intelliceme minims trim, of hs.og Mallets sorry ALA- • weep by assault the event of the place beteg in av itiation 14 MAMA of it, I believe I at different tuxes con versed with different officers un the probability of idiom iota, Antwerp withi.ut having recuume to a siege or a bows • bardment ; on regular plan of smock was stated, fur tins remora I have gives, am could be. Will your Lordship state to the Cmmuitlee the names of soy general officers with wham you coorer,d nu tb.• subject of taking Antwerp by assault should tlikk I 11111111 have mentioned it to all the general officers, or to all probably with whom I had conversation on the subject. Dries your Lordship recu!lect erre having mentioned the subject to Sir John Hope ?—1 rather think not ; for this ma tron, that I had so considerable intercourse with Sir Jobs Hope, till I um Is South &Pretend ; I saw him once at Deal ; et the time I saw Sir John Hope is South Bevelar.d. certainly I knew it could sot be then taken by assault. Did VOW' Lordship ever communicate with Sir gyre Coots epos the subject'-1 bare bad many conversations with Sir Eyre Coate. _ . Upon that subject '—l thick on every subject counected with the enterprise, I hare coo cerscil With him them was es regular disposition or plan eomminiicated Does your Lordship recollect baring any particular con versation marked so SS to call it to your mind with Sir lyre Coots, on the taking of Antwerp by autos, and the proba bility of sneers.. in that enterprise !—I do nut recollect any pointed or particular cementation ; I Mimic that he always considered that our ulterior operations must be retaliated wholly by circumstances after we lauded at S.iotsliet. Previous to sailing, or at any other time, did yout Lord. ship ever ask the opinion of Sir Eyre Cootie, as to the resets. eability of taking Anton. p by assault, or the probabi:ity of success in that euterprize:-1 did nut ask ray formal opini. on no the subject of Sir Eyre Conte ; but I conversed with him on different modes of operation we might pursue. Was the opinion of Sir Eyre Coute crier ailed by your Lordship, or given by Sir Eyre Goole tweaked. as to tie practicability of taking Antwerp by assroilt, or the proba:n lity of success in gm rot.vprire ?—1 think anon nut I rout. rein thrill he considered any operation to depend reboil • circuanstanc.s at rotator lutes we lauded lathe Committee to onderstaod that uu opinion was whoa of or was green by Sir Eyre Coate on that puha, !v—Nis fin." gel opinion. Was any opinion at all'—No positive opinion ; there wet no formal or distinct opinion gives by Sir Eyie Coote. Was any opinion at all, formal ur mfermsl , given to your Lordship by Sir Eyre Coots, on that subject !-1 du not knew that their we any seems at all given; because 1 know that he considered oar operations east be regulated by circumstances *ben w. arrived. Was any uptoMo ovio this ruhje. t asked by your Lord ship of Lord goorlyn .--No Opinion was naked •if Lei Rootlet that I know of. vent. this *object ; I dui not under stand from Ingo that be knew any th.tig ul Antwerp. Did your Lordship communicate Willi any ether General °Seem your army, on the subject of 'be mach...own, of taking Antwerp by assault think I hod coniorsanuoir with some of the General Officers, but nu FAO kola.. roarer. cation that I ran relate, upon the. subject. Can your lordship nsme imp "Inc, cal Officer besides Sir Eyre Caste tosiceire, as I sail 'afore, !lint taut question most trove arises in root ....shun • rah all the Gest rol r/fireem, we talked general!, of she welter, 'dour turtling operations; but ou di.t met opintutt was asked, because I Glad alit curets., they could else one. Dona your LowJaiiip re -011eci any markud fl131•17•Si011 Olt that subject wroth Lord a soot deal of cones , sabot, tit di &legit tunes with I.f -I 1'.;! , 11 100 wt recollect any worked einurersatiiiii, that oi.. say Carina or distinct I option.. g.ren by him mans that subj. et With Gene. al Grow-virtue !—S have Lad conversation wit i General Groivilt.o on the subject generally. With Genera: Hrowarieg '—l had. Upo• that p•otieslar point!--4)o that I i•,t. l'..e• your lA. i'ship recollect the ciunceraat .nti at peed barmy your Loiciabip and General bruise/egg so that par. ' . . ' . I. .41`01111,1 .r.,, T areribiug to I sae each motives as had ante, but of theutmest tonseqnence. si impteat. the enemy , who oecipled the whale meat of Cala- ceraidered myself es having given up the actual command I 1 ,,.,,, i ,t) I s lierall) sttribated by the Hon. Gentleman, ing the character of an exalted individual. it lonia, in small detachineete. of from MI to 500 ~e th.. army to WiFlieimi WEE ii I tuft the Islend of IVO- i I 'le " 11 l 1 not only tided (- it tight that the Iloure ought to he brought 011 at a time when net teen men, by which means they kept down the ntry eb :,:::' 15 a i ff t : 11 :,: ° ;f 4 ;, 4e .,: : :: 1 1 , 4 „"d t : C o . i ' s e ::: 4 1,,L . , i r p , E .j )r e e ,4"." 1 ,, c si i 1 ~. I off the ,,, t . . 10 ,1,1 ee pro us itself as he had recnmmended, h u t i n the shadow o f *II objection, or argument of pteci. sad kept open their own continunicatious. H.! their. e It Illaillltt mu ch atronger ;it was from the whole journey, could be raised ogeitist it, either by the wished to noose if Mitrirtem were taelitied to a ct 011 During theB3 idle of i '; ,e tote. va• " tewher i betwrin your Lordship's return from 6 a t he evidence that th e m otive was to be collected, House , or uny Member of it. This was his opi n i on ; the system which he had laid before em. . Wilhite., mud the cce....iom of pet' . command, did the ) . if he had not ended- and though he (lid not think it was at all meterial The CNA lICE I. ton of the EX.:MAUS* I howalit il and not from detached facts ; f ame , no d asperse the reputation to look at the printed inmates of the second eta- would he better in the Noble Lord not to lid'orin proiiriety of r.turoong And , c.a.., g the commas'', umh.r all its diffieutri,-s, ei..... sneccet itslf to your Lordship's 'mod ' n a nd to nab the d e ge l tot officer, lie (Mr. Pert real ) would be one suinetion of Lord Clintlatn. ret, were it only to the euemy of what was the beet mode for th e ir an. .....I ,lid s .• ce•irelie Leo Alf KA ill libea!) . to hare returned; I bad glen, up the cornet nd i by order from the Secretary of propose a mitigation of the cesi- avoid the argument of them 'emotes being adverted moyance. , State. or the last men to then so justly excited. Dot to, as he understood they were in one of the rem- '' L o rd COCIIRAXI disclaimed any such intention , Did the appointment of your Lordship's Staff cease on the sore of that House, end hurl the subject come to be diseu of, he would 1, was t h er e any thing in Lord Chatham's character 'unrest, while they were not fully before the Nov.., Bath of Septeniber t-I realty commit positively say, but I lii tenimer su ch an opinloit . ?-•-nas there any he shoeld deem *expedient to postpone the die- have cleared the gallery, to prevent its disclosure. take for granted it Md. to CoonOf how many Aidiorle•ramp did your Lordship's Staff con- a thing in the transaction itaelf to give it pro b a bili ty . cession till Monday, when they *Add be fully in LORD WELLINGTON'S ANNUITY. I sine ?-I think it cousisteel of three I suppose the genitive • I He was ne t the advocate or defender of the course- nu,sirs,roir of the wh o le. Had the previous question Mr. LUSNINGTON brought up the report on iis meant to refer to officers oil pay. Th.re is one Aul-de- - 1 which the Noble Lord hail thought proper to in t ro been put on this occasion, he would not have sup- Lord Wellington's annuity Lill. tamp to me as blaster-General of the Ordnance ; that I ap. L, me. •H, w as prepared to state, that the delivering ported it ; but the short adjournment proposed was, Lord FOLILIITog g opposed its being received, on prebend not to be in in the question. ''t of the narmtive 0 His Majesty, without di5c100.0... : h e thought, for the reasons h e had just stated. aid- the gruands that Lord W. ought not to be rewarded Your Lordship arrived at Baths us the oath of August ; % 114 his ime p o se In any one, was not a condnet which any c itable. Not that he was adverse to the monists.- for 'weevil, till the result mks k n own to b e adroit- was that the first time of your Lordship's being there .-I I , think it was. si 7_l-rattle app rove of. Butt then the question was. He was free to say , that , if he did not hear strooger tageoue . He anticipated a di sas t r o us t erm i na ti on Did year Lordship think the bombardment of Flushing , de 7::h what pu nishment would the Howe resolve to argument* on the subject, on Monday, than he to the campaign ; noticed the petition fr o m th e aseenary t• its reducetion, or might it no hare fallen to in- ; 'at silt it ?....e s o t redly, according to the Motive ;if the had this.night heard from the Right Hon. Gentle- city of London, and the thin state of the House ; vestmen ._...... t F-te Will invested fur the purpose of Intuit at- i ;14 lo cative was intended To-condemn Sir IL Strecker', Man (the Chancellor of the Exchequer). he must be End concluded by moving, as an emend rueut, that, ti; ~i,, did he delav to b deliver ‘ it so long ? or, why compelled to perform wh a t mu st e ver b e a p a i n f u l instead of i' now," the report should be received he ombardm ent of Fluhing nessary o its redue- ' • tieS! - -- - The place was regularly besieged ec ; it was tor leerily ‘ •• m ein made publ i c at ell ? If it was intended to duty, and mark with the repreheasiou of Perlis- on Monday nenuight. • bombarvintent. 64 . tort. hid from the face of day, why meat the coaduct of the Noble Earl, which was the Mr. Secretory Wrote opposed this amendment. Your Lordship having shrewd that you bail received infer- remain Pt f T should he have to it b tele, f o r th e purpose o f su bj ec t of t h e i r di scuss i on , Th e Howse must not After the great majority of the Hoene and country teatime that Con the state of the works of Auteer,i,Antweip uf di, i ,... it 3 The situation iu which his Lard- miss over even am acknowledged trim., without had decided, that Lord Wellington well d reed was liable to be taken by a coap.de rain, froni • hunt did amen - • your Lordship receive that inftwination !---It was Pi th e ill- complicated one. From au some reproof and mime-salon of the s e nse they en- grant, nothing could give snore disgust end s hip vets placid was a p . . _ . But ir .formations which has been laid apron the tattle , I received it i t obiercation of the cousequences. he (Mr. erceval) tertamed o r it. thi s wes o f gre a t co:istitu. dissatisfaction, than to preyed the Bill going horn the Secretary of State officially. 1;4 should 1,,v , r sre i h *t i me t h a t a Commander ' if tional, as well as individual importance, and it was through the common course. He kaew of no sweat Did -any comenatioe paw between your Lordship sad i.', l an Expedition should he a Gihinet Minister, out better even that it should be lately ' than rashly dee belonging to the state of affairs in Portugal, that l's. Secrets,, of Sale, api i 1 the subject of taking Antwerp Bid o f the mixed character, mi l ted d it tie s an d f ee li ngs tided O n . If th ey att em pted to do an this night, all could, in any degree, affect the claims of the Noble by a suds ate do not know absolutely by a c ap de. $ Mrs; but I kad ermwersatems as to whether it might net I sir. s . Het it was sot fair to infer from that .11- the early part of their deliate would ler occupied, GenersL b etakes withoet a molar liege, tie without • bombard- Sri Arm ., when the popalet feeling was a. winch not on lite eaerits of tit qu.stion i*srlf, but on the Mr. Caterer thaaght that no proof of the gee men. i int aga inst inn, as Conneander of the Expedition, fitness of the time, and at Li late hour they would nerd opinion had yet been given, and was against in whist way was it proposed at that time that Antarre riic t h a t he war influent, by any illiberal Of malfgnent come to a decision, without having sufficiehtly in• the hurrying the Bill on so precipitately. should he taken, if not by • coup-de . 14 , fiti yet without --es ire t wig'', to act the part he had taken. He world Yestigoted so vital a subject. me. D. Boowau supported the „ism, motion, to butoberditietat ?..-11 there hail heti% an opening fie It from the state of the sod the weaker,. of the garrisuoi, 1 ith gild, t o o, as he had spoken adult Expedition , that, lidr . WIIITIMEAD observed. that as s new woe.. The sense of the House had been thrice t u ake on probably by assault. works, ilit from the evidence which approves! at the bar. no tion had arisen, though he wa s aware he was not the subject of Lord Wellington. and it was tweet. Did Loud Castlereagh expre-s to your Lordship any en- et ' i niesinduct could attach to the Noble Lord in the entitled to speak again, yet he treated the Wine LW, now to take them by surprise. after au under- pectation that Antwerp wou!il be taken by sweet' .-He tie ceodurt of it. tie had erroneously. he would allow, world indulge him for a few initiates; and use more standing to the contrary. As for the opinion of re stii r t ta hay . ) ..e , p . iv ii r a l e s s s u a r ie la d. ex pet tattoo, under tn. eu cum • led ' , d e termined to deliver a narrative to His Majesty 1 so, as what he had to say might be the means of the Common Council of Loudon, it had been ob- "I . . c. Those circumstances mean the intelligence to wh, ', root but, though lie disapproved of that step, he did not elsortening the present debate. The Right Hon, tnined. by all the arts and ti it er L a a think it deserving of theme epithet* which had been ti mi d, luau o pp osi t e had e,h ea th e on l y pa „thi e by a majority of 13. lc- 3 -1 - a Partys mill Lordship ha• s refcered ',Th.. ~,,,,k, 1 ,,.,„ g en so bad a s i ce „, sad the genres go weak me to admit of such a re were. 1104 s a copiously bestowed spots it. no 'thought it ground on which a emit could he raised. The • Sir T. Tuartm noticed, that Ministers had had Die Lonl caslesregh inform your Lordship that be asp. iLI e v id en t, from the nature of the thing itself, that tact was, that lie had agreed last night t o postp on e other means of reward. without burdening the posed the works to be se weak, and the gin ion. to he seed • i a th ey slmold ad j ourn the considertitta till Monday his motion till Meische y , unless the enemies of country. He was astonished that Mr. Yorke had a state , no that your Lordship would be able to take .t ny ma- sezi next. The Hon. Gentleman had attributed to Lord the sec o nd examination of Lord Chatham' were accepted the elite of Teller of the Exch equees sl i d sand?--elie seemedseemedortaiely to throk that it might ►re poib ronstitments would also she*, that they Sibleoinder the eivnerable curt- emetanees I have meld inead ,:„,, C h at h am an Intenrion of spreading dissension be- printed, and distributed in time for the perusal of Pedlar his With all the imelligeire submitted in yotrr L.ireship bf were astonished at it. He would vote for the Lord Castlereagh, did your Loritiihip ever entertain say linen the two terriers: but there was no reason for Members this day. He bad gone to the rote lace, . 1* supposinz say midi thing. Ile lied stated that the to inquire if they bad been delivered, and learnt Amendment. expectatius that you sheuld be abk• to take As' wee pby as- ..l 1 General TS ALSTON entered at tome length into ssr saah s ?- stst lr s t s h t . at th i e ' a ir ri e L e r s l . l l:, d a t h irli e h r h . e r e re .,: a d tra t t e b ,:, • . pe rer i t'L e. paper was given in at a time when His blajesty's that they bad sot ; beton corning into the Howe, -*, i n Government had determined th e re should be no be was tufo: tied by an Hon. Faired, that the mat- the services of Lord IVelimaton, in whom the coon- great extent slated is some of the wit..lligente, had corned Iso i n quiry ; but it was deterottued long before that ter had been settled, after he left the House last try had been di-boded. lie would be happy to out to he true, I rest...only theaKtit it ',islet tire s has Isom- -lea fi ats . to t o y the papers which induced the Cover*. night, and that it would certainly conic on nedly. see the army safe at home, tied nut kept ill danger time to have taken Antserp by some vigorous attack, pro- -e if neon to send •the Expedition.. before them ; and But what was the real state of the rotation with abroad by the prevailing influence of the Weller- bably by assault in which wean to corroborate the fact, that no blame respect to them minutes, when he had so construct. ley family. He censured the whole of his military Is the Committee to understand, that the only intehigoire et et dais could attach to either servii e. It was strongly e d hi s resolutions, as tint to embrace a seeittle point condoct. At Iteleie and Vimiera, his rashness was 'slim which those run VVVVV to n n e .. er, e„.,,,0.4, ass the i n . telligenee sow heron . the Committee t-1 hardly know bow_ iropetail to him by the Gentlemen MI the opposite • contoiiied in them, exceptemesniallparaeroule whi c h conspicuous. and Taber:Tie was no triumph. After to *newer that question exactle, because the Secretors or this he had encamped his men in the m a r s h es o f state might hare other intellnzence ; Ido nut exactly know . ig; t site, that if he had any regard for his own the- any Gentleman could understand, front its lying oar 111,14 tarter said dignity, he would not. remain an invtent the table, iii the twinkling Mau eye. (Hear!) Under Estremailura, where they died 1000 in • month, as whether the intelligence laid neon the tattle here is all the -'it. intim Cabinet pith lord ehat'sam,after !Vs disdain- these circumstances, be did uut expect to be at- fatally as at Itiolcheren. For what then w a s he inteltieenee, brit I emends it is all the istelligenoe the Se- to be remunerated? for retreat, defeat, and cap- grata "' of St."‘' posses :of eat° consult them ;it wee, indeed. an easy task to eused of wishing to hasten on, prematurely, any sera miner, Gentlemen had only to wait until Mitiisters decision. implicating the character of an individual. tivits. Did year Lordship ever make any disposition in cost owe mind sr give ass infoincitimi to any ewers! officer tinder 0,1- ac ted, and then le stateliest numb better it would He did not expect to be accused of wishing to take Colonel Womb animadverted on these detractions rune 'Lords!) . p of the obability of aii g asionit berig owlet t it) lime been, ir they hail arted in VIII contrary manner. the House by surprise . He should has.: thought from the merit of a ga lla n t G moat, and swerted, aken upon ' Zitwerp An twerp ?- No disPositimi certai.ily ,as I Le- d a lf Lord Chothern had acted in the manner, sod the Right Hole Gentleman oppoote woold have that he was universally adorel by the army and have t stated sus former night) rime made or could have people of Portugal. He demi d the esistence of bees made ; it most lame depended eutirely on creams- lltit with the motives attributed to him, he would have had little inclination agate to try the experinnut 1 • no lirsit moo to woe, thot sueh a person should no of eudearoarieg to prevail on tho H -use to post- casuelties to the amount stated, -is, from the army's •a!"‘"Leth l e d l '" w g mcanaalt! '" l the p lace "" ' taws ' marching from Lisbon, to a very hoe petind, Weird. was Inert he II colleague of his ; but, w i der all the cir- pone their discussions front Friday to Monday.... 1 1:Zti yooir Lordship ever communicate to any general ca- me entustaiti es of the ewe, if they &molded kit°. while And what was to be done oil Monday ?-The Rt. t mg tilt. WM left at "faiovens. the whole member en muter your command the expectation formed is your CIA an 161 1 417 wag iionenrting over then all, *hat Hou.Gestleatati had told them he would mere the wee 6000. If an officer had merit to entitle him to Lordship's mind awl that of Lusa Castleeagh, im the sweat iet snuld aunt be said ? ltveuld it net be red, that premises question. He washed him joy of his estate a reward, the Ism* comreetial mint be a donation of the iotol 4 erot• Pn"i"lt "°°l of thong obol to m 77 ALI- i act they had taken advantage of the slip of a colleague, foe two days; but, lest it might be imputed to him, from has country. end not a sinecure place, the gift werp by re esesilt !oohs the event of place beteg in a ac- tuation 14 admit of it, I believe I at stablest times eon- -ent in order to eet me themselves? He would not that he had attempted sti_rprse, and woultl.coneent of a Minister It was nut likely that his military versed with different officers on the probability of patios ''ins abandon a colleague under s uch eircionatteaces Ibe to the adjournment till Moodily, on this eXttross Services would ever deserve a reward, but, if ever into Aatwerp without having recount to a siege or abort • ', in. thtl ant mean ts say that he would defend bum, condition and understanding, that the House mend they did. lie would not accept of a sinecure. kordnient ; a• regular plan of attack was stated, fur the I Ite te;ht Srwroin 4 ; not. involved ia puintentional term s immediately take up the odjuunied debate, and Sir MARX Wows stopponed the original motion. resents I have gives, ant could be. Will your Lorshhip state to the Committee the noises of ~._ Mr. Wnernagen said, the queslion was, whether be would not * l e vet bin e He had now *tutted the that aothieg of any sort of interference of otherany general officers Oath whim you converosd ea tle• subject t.') ;orchids ulna which he thought they should pent. matters, SO far as depended nu the Right Hon. laned ll'elliugtota was worthy of a pension P He of taking Antwerp by assault i.-1 should ther.k I must have rte theug:"; not. Ate Hon. Secretary (Mr. Ryder,) mentioned it to all the general officers, _or to all probably vi this great question tall Mooday next ; either Gentleman, should take pletli OA with whom I had coeversation on the subject. upon t his bight, or mom Monday, it was his inten- Gamed GROSVENOR throned the Hon. Gentle. said, nothing could excite greater disgust than re. ; but he would tell bias. that con- Does your Lordship rei:o'leet ever bating mentioned the t ai ' fusing this gnoit tremolo to miter, that it should not be put at all. man for bringiug forward this ,ii,cussion. He was fen•ing the Tellership of the Excheqner on Mr. sou , subj ect that to I Sir John Hope :-I rather think not ; fur this tea- He had He hal an objection to moving it that night. ter, persuaded, in so far as he Was eliabled to view thead au considerable intercourse with Sir John thali4li he was prts0111111)" iseepared to take this e a se, that the more the conduct of Ins Noble Friend Yorke creete.l as much -. ( ifts,. ! hear! ) The H ope , t ill I was la South Beveland ; I saw him once at t, tic Honeureble Col. (Wood,) had said, he would not Deal ;at the time I saw Sir John Hope is South Bevelasd s ter*, he dad n ot think that the Members. in ge- (Lord Chatham) was canyamel, the more the House r 11, certainly I brew it meld sot he then taken by asaault. anal, were sufficiently arc sainted with the evi- would be satisfied with that conduct. take a sineenr , . He would probably have the lin, offer before hiin if they came to serve, for he was • Did VOST LOftithip ewer Colo.lllllliCait with Sir . Byra • Coo . tA arid dtperi to pronounce a deckled opinion either way. General Loewe. alluding to the undersea:Ai:l .. . , epos the subject .!-I have hid many conversation with Sir He mend. therefore, propose, that it should be come to by Mr. Whitbread last n i g ht, etusee i s regular Militia Colonel, while he (Mr. Whitbread) Eyre Comte. mod &drowned to Monday Peet. that the House had his pledge not to bring on this was only one of the Local Militia.-(A laugh ! j Upon that anbjecl t-I think on every aubjeet counected nu el eolonelYorke, perha p s, would not be so faetidions, wide the enterprise, I hme coolers:A With him ; there was Mr. tiaaND disapproved 'of the manner in which subject to.itight, aud be was surprised. on coming ' lieu 0 la u gh 1.1 But, at eny Tate, he would *chime theta la regular 'hitewilion or plea eonnoweirated iFeChaticellm• of the Exchequer attempted en taro down to the House, to find the case otherwise. la Dr.e. your Luedabip recollect having any particular coo- ns , dris.te. The question before them ass a great The CYNIC it L Loe of the Fauns QV ea acceded to fight for their laurels before they wore them. venation marked SO SS In call it to your mind with Sir lyre cal a rsaritutional q ue s ti on, end the evidence quoted to the proposition of Mr. Whitbread, and the de- The quemion was then put. the amendment ne- Coots, on the taking of Antwerp by auloa, and the probe- . ''° i I ' + and the original motion agreed to without Inlay of snorer. in that enterprise !.--1 do not recollect say I. Ilmi. Friced, nothing but a confirmation of bate wa s adjourned till Monday, when it will take ga l t re ds .li'd tie charge. He would take the liberty to make a precedence of all other business. a division. The report was then received, and the pointed or particular conversation ; I Mamie that be always bill ordered to be read a third time on Monday. considered that our ulterior operations must be retaliated t.. , 0 lea rd 'ervsitiolli neoli the mauner in which the Mr Crecy 'semoti on , which stood for Mender wholly by circumstances she, we lauded at S,otsliet. killlit Ilan. Gesitletnan (Mr. Perceval,) had . postponed con- was till Thuniday. Previous to saitiag, or at any other time, did roue Lord. ri! edletrd the defenve of a Calaitiet Minister. The T ( c o f g he Eieunvia noticed, was ordered of all lottery healers issued for the The HAUGULLOS ship ever ask the optimism of Sir Eyre Coate, as to the reacts. rnie e '"ltieut as pr o posed. w- 11 • *rent eonatitu- that secounte of the expease of elm Portuguese yea" 1509-its, and the tickets sold by die Perm". taboos, or taken% Antwei pby assault, or the probability of 19 ll so licensed.-Adjonened till Monday. success in that euterprize:l file, nut ask say formal opini. I s ; "nal question; but the Right f/ouourable Gen- army taken into British pay, and of the numbers - --- on on the subject of Sir Eyre Coon , but I vim-creed with Heenan had eurleavoured to convert it into • of that army, which were necessary to the discue- I ac EXPEDITION TO THE SCHELDT. born on different modes of operation we might pursues. eaten, illiberal, pentane! attack ; and said, that it aims of that question, could not be laid before the Was the opinion of Sir Eyre Coute ever asked by your r...1t 'sou l ) la-cause Lord Chathsen differed from them H use tall Monday. He therefore proposed to HOUSIL Of COMMONS. Lordship, or given by Sir Eyre Canute numbed , as to the .1 ,1 11 9 . 4 1, 131 , 1. that their censure was so loud against pos o tpone the debate, on this snbject, which stood practicability of taking Acitwerp by anima, or tke piobain- ,, l - - TWELFTI Day-Tia. 57. lily of success in thet ent..rpriee .-I think awes nut , I 1 . 1..11. , P ria, dea For mt hi s a iend owo pa r t . ih h e s h, or ld sa l y. that for to-day. till Friday next. This was agreed to. eeive that' he cousidered say operation to domed wholly ted ? was an ii cm with him. and cots- Mr. PirMSONDY proposed, that if the Scheldt In. MINUTES of EVI HENCE tette. before the COMMITTEE ws eiremeoser.s we fousid ruses we leaded ducted himself in such •a manner as Lord Chatham i ii.us quiry could not poesilily lie gone into on Monday, of the WHOLE HOUSE, appointed to mosider of the lathe Comniatce to onderstaod that uu opinion was salted hid door, li e would despise him MI a politician, and eat account of the other important discussion whieli Polley and conduct of the late EXPEDITION to the of or was green by Sir Eyre Coate on that puha, te-Nos tow Coteeti n hie as a man. Ifis Hon, F r ie n d, 60 far would eta spy the House, it Light stand for Turs- Th e rlctigL"' at opinion. ~• ~R ight Hue. Si,Si JOHN ANSTRUTHEE, Beet. ia the Was any opinion at all '-No positive opinion ; there out re "' hd , i , i); used the language attributed to him d at i,-a gr e e a I ts Chair. so formal or dislititt opinion gter• by San tyre Coier. Ihidaininatory declamation), hail condacted himself Mr. C•tceetre understanding. from the return Wm say opinion at all, formal ur inforing, given to your ot s eto " a 'allhollts with the utmost moderation. and with hint before the House, that the Board of Ordnance The Right Row the FArl of Cie A? •Au called is. Lordship by Sir Eyre Coote, on that subject !-I do unit 111 that shilsty which, lie was accustomed to display. had token no security froiu Mr. Hunt. gave notice ken. that there war soy spawns at all amen ; because I II: . it sat o fi, in a letter remt "' Lr iM ed ied iCatte t reag h ( C"Pu b to our Lordship, datrd know that he considered oar operations mast be regulated by •,y .ii • matter of lemetitstion with the great- that Ire would call the attention of the House to this the ed Santemlier, moo, to be footed Walloper (A.) is Pio. 6. circumstances when wi arrived. " , ern, that secret influence existed; on influence wiliat w • . 3:1 Thursday , Lith blare!). year Lordship r remieded of positive instruction relative to Was say opinion opoo this talijei t asked by your Leta- with- a! justl y represented as dangerous to the PLACES IN REVERSION. obstructing the navigation of the Scheldt ; the cords are Alp of Lord kuolye l-No oriole., was asked •.t . tau .1 1.114441 19 and to the leappiiress of the country. Mr. Helixes brought op the Report of the Con - these-et' I ant to experso to your Lordship His Majesty's Rendre that I kiwis of. miner Ibis subject ; I ilei net under- i do*, Ilk, I eue fi dent permission, that, previous to your refers, and is Mend from lam that he knew any thdi g ul Antwerp. it , ' , •", Tinted Mr. Burks- who taaced the his- 'tenet appotuted to exam i ne the Jeuroals of the conformity to your instrnMems, ' one Lordship will coupe- Did yew Lordship communicate wills any other General 0 1...1, "I! or the evil. and ex ed its consequences to Lords on the oubject of the Reversion Dill. which rate with the Navy is r isi ng rtri. ct tt• any treasures Sir Owe Officer la your army, on thee subject of 'he port... omit, of ste.' , V l' !idiots in general.) If the b ar dent- of of the waa laid on the table. Ile then gave mirky, that he and Strarhas may think at to adopt, for obstractioe the ma- taking Antwerp by mesult '..--I think I had coon radon* 111.,, p,. 5 „, tt' l 1 ., 4 to protionice so ossi $$ ion upoii Lord woe Id. oil Tuesday next, move fur an Mares* to His errant° 011ie Scheldt ; - shat steps did your Lordship tat,* with some of the General Officers, but no p.irlkular copier- .lo, ot • ' . , 15 • "tlateltiy. lie wolld be as anxious as 3licjesty, praying that no more p la c es to reversion to give efrtet to that owtroetwo - II bad 81 set is my poser senor that I eau relate. "Pon this attlijert• ri a „ , .-to give any. Can year Lordship name uny other (ten nil Officer beedre N‘.. , - ~ . tor the delay now re vsmateuded ; but as 'right be grouted. 1 . .. 1 4 ' r i actitti . ti;iii a l onestim. was completelY lePa r a te How ...I the army employed from the taking a Fleshing Sir Evre Coon l-I confine as I sail 16 1.. e,, that that ' Chu tub act of the exportation of foreign linen ei , the ine or tette of August, till their retreat Wad resAved question must have antra in corn •rsstion •a b all the GOSS. ,i 1 I ' 4. 6iti .."" " 133 that, he frothed that it whould he era* discussed its n Cuttituittee, sad their report or- ou , -The morn was not employed at all dui tug that pe e l e d ; rat I /111ePtis ,we talked general!, of the fermis ~four further 1' • ~ 1 I . oii 111,1U.A1114 7 . In this case, the fasearite tiered to be received on Monday. it mead sot be employed Moles that period. operations; het sou did met ei t emou was asked, because I and 'he (..itr•. was iodinated to the ear of the Save- Ttle Mutiny Bull "u s read a s e con d timer gad Before or at the tune of the minim of the Expedition, was out eusteeive they model cite one ,ii• - i ' ll " l ''''tt I 'le he h lii . 1 I'l •ed be committ e d !ti lt your Lordship sustroseted to believe Antwerp to be pregnable Don your Linder iip re Oleo any marked reanimation on ~f 1., 10 111.1 lit had o..IIIICS. • ..ie system Order to . on --011_ily. by a cesp4ornein !--I had hitelligenes e.iainiii.,csled iu eur, that subject with Lord Paget'-1 h... 1 a sou-I deal of toners- ,, ' ll tit'ill Cal* deers ed in Na operations ; a id, COASTING WARFARE. . ht M the fnetairatious of Asi l si crp w ow i s 1 66 tied • stale, that sidlinl are di deicer times wok 1.ii, , 1 Pietet ;I do sot recollect '•• ..is • t 1,,-. . tl . . ila eli"ted, !Mitt . 111 1.0a t ely tend to snake Lon' Cot IMAM\ said, he had given notice, at the pet haps it might be open to • coin.* rase. any onorkni coalmine's..., that is , any freamd or distinct . ' , 70. et °metal nreopouniii i e, the service perplexed, eta! of last session, of his iiitention, early in the pre- If success had attended the attack ea lime arsenals of Ant- opine°, peen by bra main that subj. et I .• • French newt, was tour Luetkl , op IDStruel.d to With l?rsora al itan.wom tine t--4 have Lai! conversations Wino '4 t coutery Insecure. sent, to call their ;deletion to the subject of co- °eel , sod the • look to say talltrire Dhoti ?-1 had no other instructions (enteral Grosse-woe on the antajtel generaily. , .. ' e I ' . P.4114 Va .41. c'Huldiaiented Mr. Whitbread operating with th- Spaniards , by employing a nett- than are before the Cassaasithe With Groors: tterwanea -1 h o d. I ' . • ' l ' '' t "• p , r eed moderation displaced lay him ill very force afloat on their coasts, in the Mediterta.. Ilsting the interest bets ern . your Lordship's niters I; oars Ursine tint l eo 'armlike point?-dye that ; i•e. . 1 ,,,^ ''• .iward this tampon ;y.t, if the questinii nem. Thus, he was COll6 need . would be th e best Waleheren and your resign: 1111 l of the i unloosed, bad your Mao your I.....'ship recollect the eon e ers . o ,,,, .1,,,, passed Lordship frequent retorts of the number of the sick r.--. 1 heterno your Lordship sad General Oiuslurigi so that par. .. C". not inlay of great coustitutlsetal import- . amain of assisting the Spanish people, and mune ins • A • LORD WELLINGTON'S ANNUITY. Mr. LVIININGToN brought up the report on Lord Wellingtou'v annuity Lord FoLisTon oppo - sed its being received, on the grounds that Lord W. ought not to be rewarded for services. till the result iris known to be advan tageous. He anticipated a disastrous termination to the campaign ; noticed the petition from the city of London, and the thin state of the House ; and concluded by moving, as an amendment, that, instead of " now," the report should be received on Monday se'nu*ht. Mr. Secretary Rvoaa opposed this amendment. After the great majonsy of the Hose and country had decided, that Lord Wellington well deserved the grant, nothing could give snore disgust tied dissatisfaction, .than to prevent the Bill going through the consinoa course. He knew of no event belonging to the state of affairs to Portugah that could, in any degree, affect the claims of the Noble GoveraL Mr. Cazsvav thoaaht that no peoof of the Re. neral *plaints had yet been given. and was against the hurrying the 8111 on so precipitately. Mr. D. Baowaa supported the original motion. The sense of the House had been thrice Wien on the subject of Lord Wellington. and it was orrn sary now to take them by surprise. after au undrr. standing to the contrary. As for the opinion of the Common Council of Loudon, it had been ob tained. by .11 the arts and actiiity am party, only by a majority of 13. . . _ . _ _ _ _ Sir 'l';'Tuitrutt noticed, that Ministers had had other naratis of reward. without burdening the country. He was astonished that Mr. Yorke had accepted the Mite of Teller of the Eitchequer.esid perhaps hi. constituents would also she*. that they were astonished at it. He would vote for the Amendment. General Ts IILETOII enterer, at some length into the services of Lord It'ellington,iii whom themsuna try had been th-loded. He would be happy to are the army safe at home, and lilt kept in danger abroad by the prevailing influience of the Weller. It, family. He censurer, the whole of his military conduct. At It..leia and Vimiera, his rsdines. was conspicuous, and Talav,ra way no triumph. After thus he had encamped his men in the msrahes of Extremadura, where they died 1000 in a month, as fatally as at Waleheren. For what then w a s he to be remunerated? for retreat, defeat, and cap tivit%. Colonel Wont) animadverted on these detractions from the meat of a gallint G &lend, and es.erted, that he was universally adork..l by the army and people of Portugal. lie demi d the existence of cissualties to tint amount stated, .is, from the army's inarAing from Lisbon, ton very late petind, induct. ing Vie 1.500 left at Tviavera, the whole another was 6000. if ail °fiver had merit to entitle hint to reward, the moot rein;, , ettial most be a donation from his country. and not a sinecure place, the gift of a Minister . It was nut likely that his military services would ever deserve a reward, but, if ever they did. lie would not accept of a sinecure. Sir MARX Winn) supported the original motion. Mr. Wutenacan said, the question was. whether Laid Wellilgtoti was worthy of a pension f Ho thrmg::: not. Art Hon. Secretary (Mr. Ryder.) said, nothing could excite greater disgust than re. fusing this grant ; but he would tell him. that con. ferring the Tellerahip of the Exchequer on Mr. Yorke created as much —.Meer! hear The Honourable Col. (Wood,) had said, he would not take a sinectim He would probably have the offer before him if they came to serve, for he was a regular Miitia Colonel, while he (Mr. Whitbread) was only one of the Local Militia.—(A laugh !) Colonel Yorke, perhaps, would not be to fastidious. (a laugh !) But, at any rate. he would advise them to fight for their laurels before they wore them. The question was then put. the amendment ne gatived. and the original motion agreed to without a division. The report was then received, and the bill ordered to be read a third time on Monday. On the motion of Mr. Wormiest', an account was ordered of all lottery liceases issued for the years 109-lu. and the tickets sold by the persons so licemed.—Adjonrned till Monday. EXPEDITION TO THE SCHELDT. HOUSIL OP COMMONS. TWELFTII D 4 V.-Tlllll. 117. MINUTES of EVI DEN CE Wire before the COMMITTEE tl.e WHOLE HOUSE, appointed to ClPariallf alb* polity end combat of tbe late EXPEDITION so at SCHELDT. The Eight Hoe. Sir 10IIN ANSTRUTHEE, Ere ia tbo The Right Rom. the FAO of Cie Aim au called is. Feeimieed h the Committee. . _ . _ In a letter from Lord Casilerraigh to your Lori►lp, dated the ltd &plc=her, loop, to be fused is.raper (A.) in No. 6. your Lordship r ressioded of positive instructions relative to obstructing the navigation of the Scheldt ; the words are three lam to 'sperm to your Lordship Hie Majesty's confident peisamion, t►at, previous to your wars, and in conformity to your laatrsetiuos, your Lordship will coope rate with the Navy in giving effort to :toy measures Sir Rich ard Strarhaa may think fit to adopt, for obstructing the na vigation oftlie Scheldt." slut steps did your Lordship take to give rffict to that matractsan !-11 ►ad it air in my poser to give any. How 4% the army employed from the to of Fleshing on the l Jth, or ir..th of August, till their retreat was resolved :__The army ass not rtoployed at all du. tug that period ; ft crushd sot ba employed dories that period. Before or at the time of the minim of the Fapeditton, .as your larril.hip instructed in believe Antwerp to br pregnable by a rotp.4e.stain had iatelligenve enatrunt.tested to ow, that the fortifications of Astvrerp Were is se bad a state, that pet halos it might be open to • cosp•de masc. If 11111rCebe had atten.l.4 the attack we the a r senals o f Aut. vrerp sad the French fleet, was your Lued , h.p sostruti.d to look to say alttrior °Nett ?—I bad so oilier ioatrurttoos then ere before the Cootatithe. Ilering the interval brie rrn your 11-ordalsits 1 , 00 , 11 Walcheren and yoar tesigmt ..... °mauled, bed tour Leudohip frequent re-torus of Inc nueatter of the sbek —4