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object in having the vestry agree to WI. wu, that in the market price of corn fell, he might still have a full average income. The seven years' average he disliked : it could be carried into effect, fiir people never could calculate the for such a period. Lct the vestries settle the period tor seve or let the average be struck at three years. He was not for this discussion, and had merely thrown out these ob. for the consideration of the II wise. r. Ilir311; contended that nothing hut breaking up the whole oich establislunent in Ireland would produce any good. (Hear.) - were 13 out of 1.1 paying for the fourteenth, and while this ~t prevailed, irritation must follow it, and irritation ass the last ig desirable for Ireland. The principle of the Bill was wrong ; all persons ought to he allowed, where they could, to buy up it tithes, as the means tit allaying discontent. The papers called were not yet in the pmmes4ion of Members, and it was unfair to for leave to introduce a Bill to amend Hills, whose effect they ild not know. This legislation was only tending to confound tat was already confused. Mr. PEEL—The obe.-ct now was only to ask for leave to bring a Bill. If it were delayed hi a later period, the Hun. Member Aims& would be the first to say it would be then too late. It would be a waste of words to argue such a matter further. He thought the speech of the lion. Member (31r. Grattan) was of it self • very satisfactory reason for bringing in an amended Bill. Mr. ORATTAN—I beg the Right lion. Gentleman's pardon; the Bill was little understood by Members in this House, and it was no wonder that 23 vestrymen should not understand it. 1 said no more. Mr. PEEL—The object of the Bill was to leave the parties open to make whatever contract they could fur 211 yeses, if they pleased; one toe three yeses could be attended with every degree of perplexity. he House sanctioned the previous Bill, and they were now only asked to amend it. When the Bill was in print, its supporters and tupottents would be Letter prepared to argue it than at present. when it appeared they were not in possession of sullicient informs. non upon the subject. After a few words from Mr. plaostion, leave was given to bring in the Bill. CATHOLIC DONATIONS. _ ........--- . Sir 11. PARNELL said he last year presented a petition from the Catholic Archbishops of Ireland, praying that schools might be endowed and other charitable institutions for Catholics and fur the use of Catholics. There were not many decisions on that sub ject ; and the lends lawyers seemed far a time to feel some difficulty on the subject. However, a few years since. a Catholic lady left • considerable sum to Catholic uses ; but the Commissioners of Cho.' enable Bequests thought proper to file a bill, which was ultimately heard before the Lord Chancellor, and the will confirmed. The Attorney-General for Ireland concurred with that opinion ; and he believed that opinion would prove satisfactory to the Catholics of Ireland. Under such circumstances he did not feel it necessary to trouble the 'louse any further. SUPPLY. Sir H. II A RDIN OE brought up the Report of Supply; and several resolutions were agreed to. On the resolution being proposed for granting a sum for remune ration to persons transferred from the Commissariat to the Oninar.ce. department, Mr. HUME wished to be informed what arrangements were made for the remuneration of persona transferred front tile l'onimis slung to the Ordnance Department ? IVere the superannuations to include the Commissariat period of service? Sir H. HARDINUE said, the superannuation' were to take place as if the persons had belonged to the Ordnance Department. The salaries were to be paid at a similar scale. • Mr. H VII/E---Suppose a man had been seven or ten years in the Commissariat, sod was afterwards transferred to the Ordnance, would his period of Commissariat service be considered in his so perannuatien ? Sir H. HA RDINGE—Just the same as if he had been all the period in the Ordnance. Mr. II U ALE thought that unfair, for it was taking a man from the higher to the lower scale. Sir H. HARDING E--filorne regulation was necessary, and what he had stilted was considered to be the best. 31r. CA lA 7RA rf said, that as a sort of debate had sprung up on the subject, it might not be cor.sidered improper in hint to say a few words on the vote which had already rased. lie alluded to the vote for the salary of the Secretary to the Board of Ordnance. He must say he thought that of very inadequately paid by a salary of less than one thousand a year. lie was the representative of that Board in that House, and should be enabled to sustain a becoming station in society. He was well aware of the duties of that office, having himself filled it ; and though he had twice as touch as the Gentleman who now discharged its dutiss, he by no! means considered himself ton well paid. He had his hands ' employed. He was not now in a situation to move any thing; but he saw DO reason why the Secretary to the Ordnance shuukl be worse edd than timer the Admiralty Secretary or the Secretary to the Treasury. Hr. PEEL said, the Hon. Member had certainly said enough to Induce the tmaidemtion of this subject by his Majesty's 3linisters. lie could not al present give any aysurance on the subject ; but, as be had just said, it was a matter worthy of attention. Mr. ACME—Then if the Hight Hon. iientleman will look at the general scale of salaries, he will find some are too well paid for doing little; ant he can deduct from them to make up a proper lay for the Secretary. Xr. CA IiCRA FT—I by no means wish to take it from ahem The resolution was Men agreed to. • Om the resolution being proposal for the Woolwich College Ea.l tablishment. 111 r. Al I: said, he hoped the establishment would be reduced in the course of next year. The number of students should be reduced to what the army could provide for, allowing an education of four years to each student. Sir If. lIAIIIH SG E said the expense was redriced 1.6001. in the last yenr. The nionher now at the college Gas ft 3 ; though the establishment consisted of. WO. A greater number would have been provided for ; but that, in obedience ton vote of this House, that when the army was to be filled up, it should be tilled up from the half-pay list. Mr. It. GILBERT hoped, that so valuaLle an establishment would rot be crippled, as recommended by the Honourable Member fur Aberdeen. 311St:IELLANEOE'S _ESTI3IA TES. The Report of the Miscellaneous Estimates was brought up and tread. - -- - Upon the vole for the ranting of 136,351 L for the expeoses of thi2?arrfilk dryar!rnent bang read, Mr. 1108801 E said:before this vote passed the House, he should appeal to the Gallant Officer opposite, who was no less dis tinguished for his spirit than for his constitutional feelings. lie had appealed to him on a former occasion, when the gallant officer quoted the Petition of Rights, in order to phew that soldiers were wished for by the people of England. Ile knew it was not neces sary for him to state, that a soldier in those days was widely dif- Intent from the soldier of the present day. There was not, at that day, a standing army ; such a thing was utterly unknown: It could not, therefore, be called for by the people. The complaint was, that soldiers were billeted on private houses, and supported by private individuals, when they should be paid for out of the pocket of the King: and where there existed. ter the express par. pose of supporting those troops, what were called garrison towns. Ile hoped therefore the (Milani Officer would look again, as he was sure he would. at the real Petition of Rights, and not the boom,. ass one which he had thought proper to quote ; and he would find it a serious cau-e of complaint, that soldiers should be Mond and lodged at the expense of the people, when it should be done in the: garrison towns and inland fortresses. Ile knew from the character of the Gallant Officer, that he would expect to find a soldier not merely obedient to the authority of his officer, but he would also wish to find him a good chiral and a gond man. The barrack system, it was said, was necessary to support the military charac ter of the cottr:try ' • this he strenuously dented: before such a thing as a barrack w a s known, this country produced and turned out a population, which laid the foundation of that great military dignity and fame which it at preseot possessed, and had gained victories which were inferior to none gained since. Ile was ashamed of troubling the House with these antiquated opinions. Ile would move an amendment to the vote for the system of barracks ; and he would add to his amendment the opinion of a Judge who, in his day, was supposed to be sufficiently courtly, but who was now con sidered to have inculcated nothing but bold opinions ; and before be went to his ame n dment, he would admit that on a former oc casion the Gallant Officer had gained a triumph over him ; but it was of short duration, as his friend, tile Member for 3lontroee, had deranged all his speculations. lie was willing to grant that he himself bad been detected in an error in the first financial nice. sure he had ever engaged in. lie would now move as an amendment, " That it appears to this House, that since the conclusion of the war in 11115 more than 2,/itllt,lloUl. sterling have been expended in the barrack deportment established in Great Britain and Ireland, and that 1:16,531L arc proposed to he devoted to the tame object in the eurnanyear. " That it appears to this House that a part of the sum so re. quired is to be laid out in the construction of a permanent barrack on the site of the King's-mews, Charing-cross ; and that thus, in the heart of the city and liberties of B'estiiiimter, another mili tary station, sepamiiiig the soldier from the citizen, is to be added to the many similar establishments to be found in various parts of the kingdom. " That this !loose cannot but view with the utmost jealousy and suspicion the contirusoce and increase of a system utterly incon sistent with the ancient laws and usages of England, such as they fad them expounded by all the authorities who have treated of the locomotion of the country--and move particularly by Mr. Justice Blackstone, who , in his commentaries on toe laws of England, after expressly celaring that the laws and constitution of these kingdoms know no such state as that of • perpetual standing soldiery, makes use, in a subsequent passage, of the following re. marinade words " ` Nothing, then, according to these principles, ought to be more guarded against in a free state titan making the military Power, when such a one is necessary to be kept on foot, a body too distinct from the people. Like ours, therefore, it ought only to be enlisted for a short and limited time ; the soldiers, also, should liveistenoixed with the people: no separate camp—no barrack -00 inland fortreses, should be allowed ; and perhaps it might be still better, if, by dismissing a stated number, and crusting others, tummy renewal of their term, a circulation could be kept up be tween Ow army and the people, and the citizen and the soldier to move Intimately connected together.' " That this House partaking, therefore, those free sentiments with the great commentator on the laws of their country, and wish ing to discourage the military system therein decried, will not votes Wirt sum than 90,01t111. for the barrack department in Great Britain in the current year ; and the House further humbly begs leave to urge, that no new barrack for soldiers ought to be erected in the OUdit Of in the vicinity of the metropolis." The Honourable I icntleman observed this was the amer.dment he wished to nio-c : and though he was ashamed of referring to those "objects, which they had learned as elements, he would remind the Udlant (Mica opposite of the complaint made formerly by the people of England. They alleged that it was customary for large companies of soldiers and manners to enter the houses of the inha bitants, and sojourn there contrary to law and justice; and this they considered a great grievance. This was the complaint of the English people: he hoped. therefore, the liallant Officer would not again quote the Petition of Rights as if in waggery. I I pon the Amendment being seconded and put, it 11. lIARDIMIE said, he would not allude to the conatl. tutional lecture received from the Honourable Member for West. minuet. Ile would justify the building of barracks on the princi ple of necessity. The House would recollect that at the commence. utent of and during the revolutionary war, the Ilouse received numberless petitions, praying that the billet system should be abo lished and barracks should be built. The same petitions were re newed in li tt3, and when tiovernment, from the threats of inva sion, was obliged to make corresponding movements, and large bodies of troops were sent to the counties on the coast, it was im possible to keep the men under canvas during the winter, and it was equally impossible to lodge them in public-houses, and private houses were exempt by law. Ceder these circumstance' petitions were frequently sent to the House, to save them from the ruinous system of the billet. in pursuance of these petitions the barracks were built in the counties adjacent the coast, but they were much distil. lashed. and though there were 75,600 men in arms there was but bar rack accommodation for 30,1100. As to the barrack in the Mews, the Hon. Member did not know from the estimate that it was to be built. Ile did rot know it himself officially ; the building was the property of the Crown, not of the Ordnance Board ; and though he did not know the Mews were to be converted into a barrack, he believed it likely to happen. It, therefore, the Hon. Member shored his motion by probability, lie was right ; if he shaped it by the estimate laid before the Ilouse, he was wrong. As to the system cf billet, he would state why he thought that of barrack much preferable. Before the revolutionary . ir, as far back as the year 17Y2, the guards had fewor no barracks, except those quartered the Tower; they were scattered over the City ; and the emote , queues was, their discipline was in a most deplorable state ; and about the year 17111 or 17W.!. it was computed that one out of four teen of the guardsmen was capitally convicted at Newgate. Since the barrack system, not one was convicted capitally ; previous to that they were banged every year for their crimes. It was difficult to keep soldiers when billet AI about under a proper control ; it was utterly impossible to keep them under subordination in such a place as the lower parts of Westminster, with eery kind of vice and profligacy in their view. There was anoder thing to be com plained of in the billet system: st hen a soldier was billeted, he left his anus at the armoury, and thus he did not retain on parade the habits or appearance cf a military man. He was decidedly of opinion that a soldier was more likely to be made a better citizen and a better man in barracks, than by being billeted abroad. Ile would oppose the amendment. Mr. lICME said, the plan was evidently to make the soldier an automaton in the hands of his officer, without a single feeling in common with his fellow.eitizens. If it were the object to keep the soldier front the houses of the people, the barracks should be re. moved from the City altogether. The object of the Government was a military despotism, otherwise the granting such sumo for barracts, and the keeping tip of 'A.Utnlarmed men in time of peace, was monstrous. He would support the amendment. Mr. HORHOUSE said, with respect to the King's Mews, the way he obtained his information was by asking the Secretary at War, an 4 he told hint of the intention of converting them into bar racks. The amemdment was then put and negatived without a division. PENALTIES RECOVERY BILL. Sir T. BARING suggested a clause in the second reading of this bill, to the effect of vestirg a discretionary power in Alagis trates, to conintute the penalty of levying tines in eases of distress to imprisonment. CATTLE BILL. Mr. HI - 3IE rose to oitixt;etire;Pealtee" .7 . leaving the chair. The present Bill appeared to him wholly unnecessary. The prin ciple of the Bill was objectionable, as was that of all Bills which sought to correct an abuse, but which in correcting sought to intro. dm:: still greater abuses ; such lie thought was the tendency and effect of the Bill of the lion. Member (Mr. Martin). He begged to call the attention of the House to • Passage, which affixed a penalty for the " overloading a horse." Now how was it to be determined wnen a horse was overloaded or not ? lie (Mr. Hume) had seen a pony which was sufficiently strong to sustain his Noble Friend (Lord Nugent). whereas he had also seen a big horse, which might not so well carry him. (A laugh.) Ills attention was it no small degree attracted to the provisions of the present Bill by the circumstance of the Honourable .Member voting against clause introduced by him • few nights ago tot the aboli tion of flogging in the army. The lion. ]Member, wi e took uncial his especial care all the Itolses, bull-dogs, and cats of the country, could not extend his humanity so far as to vote for • measure, the object of which was to exempt 73,000 men from the cruelty of flog. ging (hear); yet he was all alive and sensitive at the "overloading a hon.e." In consistency surely the Hon. Member ought to have supported him on a funnier night ; he should not have denied that humanity to his fellow-re:attires which he so sensitively bestowed on the brute creation. The Hon. Gentleman should at least have contented himself with the Bill of last Session upon. this subject, which he (Mr. Hume) admitted had done good. lie would there fore move as an amendment —•• That the House phould go into a Committee this day six months on this Bill." Some heettetine hsving been evinced been any Member role to second the anieodrnat, _ The AT I'OILNEI7.OENERAL said, that its ascending the amendment of the Honourable ;%leinber for Aberdeen, he wished to accompany it with a statement of the reasons which induced him to oppose the Bill of his Honourable Friend (.Mr. Martin). In his opinion, all the useful objects that were to be attained by legislation on this subject heti been attained by the Cruelty to Animals' Bill, which had been passed last Session. In that Bill, which was principally dtsigned for the protection of horses trom cruelty, there was a clause whith prevented wanton and cruel treatment of cattle. But in the present Bill, if any animal suf fered from negligent or inadvertent treatment, the party guilty of inch inadvertence was made guilty of a misdemeanor. He (the Attorney-General) apprehended this was nut the intention of his Honourable Friend: there might be propriety in enforcing a penalty on persons acting " wantonly and cruelty," but he could not agree in the policy of extending that penalty to those who acted " negligently." His main objection, however, was, that it was sufficiently provided for by the enactments of the Bill of last Session. As to the mode of punishment, be also dif fered with his Honourable Friend. If there was any species of offence which was peculiarly fitted for a Magistrate to legit'. late upon, it was this which the Bill proposed to remedy. Hut the lion. Member proposed that a discretion might be vested in the Mvistrate to send a cue of this kind to the Sessions, where after it had been traversed, and the delay perhaps of a year, and after the expense of .101. or WI., a conviction might follow. The penalty would therefore often exceed the offence, and the execution of the law be attended with unnecessary charge, inconvenience, and de lay. The third clause of the Bill appeared to him more objection. able still than those parts on which he had already observed. It proposed to authorize any person who detected any individual in cruel treatment to cattle, though not a constable, end without a warrant, to seize such person and bring him before a Magisuatu. Now, amongst other reasons, which principally induced hint to op. pose this part of the Bill, wit a feeling of charity towards the lion. Member himself ; fur so great had hitherto been bis seal in such detections, that he feared, if this clause passed into a law, his lion. Friend would be every day engaged In some setive contest in the streets in carrying it into effect. (Hear, bear.) In the present Bill, the " bull, ' which was a favourite with the lion. Elfeinbet, was not introduced expressly in the present Bill, but it was in. eluded under the phrase of •• any cattle." The liou. Member had thought by the word any to introduce the " bull." That, he be. liev!ii,washis intention. 31r. v .NIARTIN—No doubt. The A TTORNEY-UENERAL thought that his Honourable Friend shuuLl have openly declared that such was his intention, and not thus endearcur to insinuate it after it Intel been already die. countenanced by the House. The fourth and lasi clause of the Hill proposed that a part of the money which constituted the pc nalty should be given to the prosecutor in each case. Now, as hi* Honourable Friend had been the prosecutor In most (be believed) of the cases of this nature, the clause would be found chiefly advanta geous to himself. (Litughter..) Having gone througb the several enactments, and stated separately his oojections, he coincided with the Hon. Member for Aberdeen in its espedianey, and would there. fore second his amendment. Mr. W. 15311TH thought that the latter part of the speech of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman was not meant as seriously applicable to his Honourable Friend (Mc. )Martin). It was, ho conceived, introduced as one of those Ile which usually accom panied the discusaion of this subject. Ile acquitted the Honour. able and Learned Gentleman of any invidious in:ennui' in introdue ing it now. In his opinion, the 0111 of last maim) had had a good effect on the bad habits of the lower diem. On the subject of the flogging of *Wilier., he differed with him, as well as the lion. Member for Aberdeen, but that was now no re 5114.13 why lie should oppose his present bill, which was, in hie opinion, a Mods= of humane legislation. Mr. MARTIN (on a general cry of his name, from both sides of the House) rose. He was not uninformed of the motives and MOMS which induced the Hon. Member for Aberdeen to oppose his present MIL Ile was aware of his intention to allude to the vote which he (Mr. M.) gave on the proposed abolition of flogging in the army. The lion. Member had theught proper, on account of that vote, " to show him up" to the House that evening. (A laugh.) The Hon. Member had free leave and permissiun from hint (Mr. M.) to do so. lye had his licence in his pocket, and had he not, the lion. Member for .therdeen should not " show up" the Hon. Member for Galway. (Much laughter.) It had been alleged that the vote which he gave on a firmer night was at variance with the measure he now proposed. lie took pride to himself, when On, act supposed to be against humanity, was made a charge of incon sistency upon him, for it admitted the general tenor of his life to be characterized and regulated by humane principles. From that charge lie was now ready to vindicate himself, se be was also ready to defend the propriety of the vote which on a former night be gave. The reasons which induced lum to vote against the aboli. lition of flogging in the army were twofold—First, be was inform. ed froui creditable sources, that the Commander-in.Gliief had corn. mowed reformation in that punishment. Instances of such punish ment were now extren.ely rare, and whenever a prevalemy to such punishment was found to prevail in a particular regiment, such pre valence was invarinbly censured by the Commander-in-Uhler. lie therefore thought it ungracious in the House to interfere in a refor. motion which the excellent and illustrious person who presided user the army was aiming to accomplish. The second reason which induced him to give the vote which the lion. Member fur Aberdeen had animadverted was, that that punishment, severe as it was, in his opinion was merry to the soldiery as compared with the imprisoning., the,u,and obliging them to walk for whole hours and days under the load of heavy knapsacks. These were the reasons which led him to vote as he had done Ile announced them now, but had not stated! them to those with whom he ustudly acted, and who had not• be thought treated him with the courtesy he bad reason to expect. MAILS. Dig-1 Lisbon, 1 Gottenburgh, 3 Hamburgh, 1 Holland, 1 French. Letters have been received from Corfu, which announce the sailing of a division of the Turkish fleet from the Dar danellts. Its destination was generally supposed to be Smyrna, which being threatened by the Greeks, is in want of protection ; othtr3 imagine that this division is to rein force the Turkish fleet in the Gulf of Lepanto. f WI. ; --his a the mai incorn his er be car . ces for 5011 I !Jean, or •rePare d ft " rattans Mr. 'ICI .arch estai There were ystem preen thing desiral for all perm their tithes, fer were not ask for least could not le what was at Mr. PEE in a Hilt himself sou would be a thought the self a very II 31r. tia. l the Bill wa was no won no more. Mr. PEE to make wh tine for thret 1 he House asked to am rimorents when it apt tiun upon ti After a fi planation, I Sir 11. P. the l'atholi be endowed the use of I. ject ; and t/ on the subji considembli citable Ilest heard befog Attornev-ti belies th • Ireland. 1 trouble the Sir H. several rest thither ration to pi department Mr. 11U made for tl swim to th include the hir H.l place as if The slant Air. HU Comniimair would his perannuatit Sir H. II period in tt Mr. 111' the hitcher Sir 11. 11 be had stst 31r. CA on the subj few words the vote lot He must salary of k of that 1101 becoming I that other. much as th teens com employed. be saw Doi With regard to what the Attorner-Henera had said, he (Mr. Mar.' tin) was ready to admit that the hrtt clause wanted definition, as to overloading horses or other animals ; hot the observation equally applied to the former Bill ; but there could e,e no objection to going into a Committee, because this circumstance would then be ree -1 tided. He would ask the Attorney-General, who had alluded to the clause respecting bulls, if bulb were not protected by the for. mer Bill ? The Attorney-General did not reply ; and he (Mr. Martin) assured the house, that die Attorney-General had his fee of two guineas now in his pocket, while his opinion lay in his (Mr. Martin's) ; it declared thus:—" I am clearly of opinion that bull. baiting is prohibited by the existing lass." He would therefore ask the A ttorney .G eneral, whether he could have any objection that the people adorn ed have the full benefit of the laws which had been given than ? Ile (Mr. M.) would now take the bull—.:nd take him by the horns. It is the opinion of the .Attorney-General that bulls are protected ; but was it protecting them when a fine of 5L was the only punishment for the crime of hull-baiting? He would ask, was there any town or city in die kingdom, where, wen the people had a mind td bait a bull, they would not make up the sum of 51. to pay the tine ? Ile knew it to be a fact, which was authenticated by affida vits, that in Stamford, when the savages baited a bull, they have cut oft; with their knives, pieces of fl esh from the animal, and roasted them while the animal was alive. Ile (Mr. Martin) would again ask the Attorney-General, since he had given his opinion, and had his two guineas in his pocket, what objection he could have to the more effectual protection of these animals ? All that those who now wished to bait a bull had to do, was, to get the 51. to pay the tine, and they might then do as they pleased. Ile trusted that the humanity of the Attorney -G enera l would prompt him to allow the as to be made a m i s d emeanour. e hope d Hhd the • (louse would go into a Committee, end ascertain what needed re vision and what did not. He would ask the House what klagistrate would prosecute a case of atrocity at a Quarter Sessions ? He asked the question at a former penod. and he was told that it was illusory to expect that any such prosecution would be made. lie would ask the Attortier-lictieral whether, by the opinion for which he received his fee, he thought that bull-baiting was abolished,—whether the tine of live pounds, or imprisonment for two month*, wits sufficient to abolish it ? AU that was necessary lobs done, in order to commit the gime, was to go about with • hat collecting hi., and then those Who wished it might safely bull bah. Tile Attorney-Oeneral had expressed a great wonder how the DM could have passed a second reatlltlg.s but was not the present • transcript of the last ? And why did not the Attorney-General come forward on the passing of that Bill to oppose it ? He (Mr. Martin) knew the reason why ; it was because the late Lord Lon donderry (end he would take this opportunity of paying a just tribute to his humanity), who sat up late, later than the Attorney tieneral was likely to do to-night, had hinted a wish to his friends that they should support the DU The ATTORNEY-GENF:HAL (across the table)—llow does the lion. Member know that? Mr. MARTIN—IIe told me so. Thus he (Mr. Martin) could account for the difference in the past and present conduct of the Attorney-General. whose arguments were never less conclusive than they now were against the Bill. There were two petitions presented in another Douse in support of this Bill; the one by • Reverend Prelate, and the other by a Noble Duke. Ile would conclude by hoping that the House would give the subject its due consideration, and at all events, allow it to come before a Com mittee. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL rose. . . _ AIr..MARTIN—What, is not the Attorney-General enough? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL proceeded. lie did not oh. jest to the Bill of his Learned Friend, the Member for Galway, which was passed two or three years ago, for imposing a fins on those who were guilty of cruelty ; but he thought this statute was enough, although his Hon. Friend was not of that opinion. The Member for Norwich (Mr. W. Smith) supported the Bill by an argument which cuts off the present Btll root and brunch, because it was sought to be introduced only on the princi ple that the former was Insufficient ' • yet the Honourable Member states that the forma Bill had produced the very best effects. lie would ask the lion. Member for Galway why overriding, as well as overloading a horse, was not to be prohibited by the Bill ? Or might a man ride a hone to death, and be punished for placing on him a feather too much ? Ile trusted the House would legislate consistently. Ilia principal objection to the Bill was, what the Attorncy-General had noticed, the clause which was to empower a Magistrate to fine a man, or to prefer an indictment ageinst him. Ile thought as well as any one, of the character, integrity, and humanity of Magistrates, but he was against placing so much power in their hands. lie should therefore dissent from the opinion of the lion. Member (Mr. Martin), whom he respected out of the House more than he did in it, confining his observation to the present point—with whom he generally sided and always sym pathised. Dr. LUSHINGTON said it appeared to him that those who opposed the present 13111 did not use argument, but were contented with ridicule. He conceived the object of the lion. Member for Gal- way was this--to convince the House of the necessity of altogether nutting a stop to proceedings which, before the pumng of the tor tun Bill, had increased every day, by which the moral feelings of the people had been infected, and which bad, in many instances, forced them from cruelty to animals to cruelty to man. The lion. Member for Galway had, greatly to his credit, succeeded in what a Noble Lord deceased (Erskine) had faiketo accomplish. it was the tertunate lot of Ma Mania to attain his most desir. able object. If there were ivy obloquy attached to the sup porters of the be (Dr. Lushington) was willing to share it ; because he thought the morals of the people depended greatly on preventing them from coninduing acts of atrocity. If he had thought the Bill would have taken its present course, he would have presented letters on the subject front various parte of the country, to prove how very frequent bull-baiting still is, and how very insufficient the laws against it an. Ile hoped the House would at least go into a Committee on, and eamigne the write of, the Bill. fr:tlrl - NN objected to the Bill as an improper subject for legislation. Mr. IVARRE supported the Bill. Ile believed that all the eases of cruelty which had been brought before the Magistrates had been clearly made out. All. Alderman BRICDOES supported the Bill. Ile believed , persons who in early life would tie a kettle toe does tail generally made their exit at tha gallows. Mr. GOC4I3I . ItN objected to the bill, because the former was euttictent, and had been successful; the present would destroy all proportion between the crime and the_puntelunent. Mr. G. BANK 4 supported the Bill, but thought some of the chutes objectionable. Mr. H I'SKISSON made a few remarks in opposition to the Mr. COI.IITENAI observed that the present law* were effec.. I live, and that consequently any alteration was needless. ritraogen were then ordetul to withdraw; but there not being forty members present, the Bone present, adjourned at a quarter before twelve o'clock. NOTICES OF MOTIONS TUTS DAY. 1. Mr• rhei..qualiz:a.ion of the Duties on Deer. 2. Mr. Spring Kice—Motion respecting a new Surrey and Valu ation of Ireland. ORDERS OF TLIE DAY. I. Postage Rates Ifill--couimittee. 4. Malay Dill.-Report. PRICES OF BRITISH Bank Stock 3 per Cent. Reduced. 3 per Cent. Coos. 931 j I 91 per Cent. 4 per Cent. New 4 per Cent. 107 i f Annuities, Imperial 3 per Cents. Bunk for Account 243/ Cons. for Act. 94 6 3 f 4 3 India Stock iTOCKS YESTERDAY. India Bonds, 82 81 India fur Account, South Sea Stock, 100 South Sea Old Annuities South Sea New Annuities 1.4. Bills, 1,0001. 6.466 pr. Ditto, bOOl. 63 MI pt. Oita), Small, 63 66 pr. 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I Russian Bdis Wk 4$ if I Russian for Aect. lib i Russian Inscription jbachaose per ruble Ditto Ketonic Stock (Daring) Ditto (Sabin's) Spanish Cons. 20$ 20 II Ditto for Account 2oj 2 Ditto 17U & 25511415. 20a 4 Ditto 85, 23 Do.. per Cts.(lBM) 171 6 , 1 Ditto for Acct. Anglo Mex. Mines b pr. United Ditto I pr. Peruvian Scrip 77 French Rents, 105 E Do. Scrip. Ditto for Acct. Di pr. Du. Ex. 25f. 50c. 6NOE YESTERDAY. rn . - 41 Genoa . - 4:li Venice - - 27 Malta . . 4I Naples . - 301 Palermo - 115 Lisbon 51 Oporto - • . 51 Itio Janeiro - 411 Bahia - 50 Dublin - II Cork - 91 VULLION. E. 6. d. Portugal Gold in coin Il 0 0 Foreign Gold in bars 3 17 8 New Ihnibloons 0 0 0 New Dollars 0 4 91 Silver in bars 0 4 11 Elm 113ritiOlt alkeoo. NEW THEATRE ROYAL, DRURY-I,ANE. Tomorrow. THURSDAY. March 11, will I. Krb , rica'd HAMLET. PRINCE 1W DENMARK. Hamlet. Mr. K.% ns Ylnt Grme-Digger. Mr. Ih.wtoo Gh•cd. Mr. Wallach. Gertrude. Misr Boyce; ophella, Madams Van. After which, SPANISH GALLANTS. To conclude with NV GRANDMOTHER. THEATRE. ROYAL, COVENT-GARDP,Y. Tomorrow, THURSDAY. Morel 11. will be perforated PRIDE SHALL HAVE A PALI- Count Ventaao, Mr. W. Parent Prince le Phidemonte, Mr. Egerton; Lorenzo, Mr. C. Enable. Victoria, Alive Paton. After which, TIIE rum:mats. RI VG'S THEATRE. OPERA CONCERT ROOM, tiArmAnKeT, (Now beautifully arranged ass Theatre, with Boxes. Mt, and Gallery.) Mr. D. E. W.ILIIER reap-etfully annisinces hi. ANTIIONORICAL LECTURES on the NEW EITIMUItANittN, or LARial TRANS PARENT ORRERY. lu addition to it. usual splendor, he propocs much new and interesting matter In the densinstration of tallow; Pr.,blents, which hitherto have not been introduced innately. To emsinience Tills EVENING, WEDNESDAY, and to continue each Wednesday In Lent. Roves. 45.; Upper ditto Be.; Pit. 2s. t Gal len*. is. Doors to open at seven: Lecture to ht:gin at half-past, and to end at Ten. Tiekrts soil Places to be had of Mr. !") "Sulu, at the Opera Dox-oitice, in the kinadnuit. THEATRE ROYAL, ENGLISH OPERA HOUSE. On Wednesdays and Fridays in Lent. LECTURE on ASTRONOMY and the PHENOMENA of the HEAVENS and of the EARTH. The Second Lecture so bedelivered by ?Ir. Bartley, THIS EVMS IRO. To Marin at Seven; and eon:tilde at Ten. Tickets of Admission for Families to be had on moderate tarty at the acpx-oalce. ADFLPHI 7'HE.4TRS, STRAND. V. HENRY has the honour to ante unee that ho » W gthiblt. Tills ItVENIIII6 land every Wednesday and Friday Aaring Lein), Mr iiA tonisliWr and magnificent display of UNCOMMON ILLesloNa. taderful Metamorpho, , es, and interesting illustrations in Egged mental Cheuslotry; together with the Musical Glares, Animated Paintings. ke. ite. _ _ Doors iiiireend comment.* at Seven s Half -Price half-past tight THEATRE. ROYAL, HAYMARKET. IN PIDIDDIRODW OF Tae LORD rn torotatAisr. Mr. THELIVALL'S ORATORICAL and CRITICAL LECTURES ou SHAKSPEARE we. Wedneiodaye and Fridays during Leut. FIRST LECTURE. Tills EVENING. Introductory Address—Oratorical. Melo-Mono-Drsunatic Prologue—Or'ginaL CRITIt'AL DISQUISITION—on the general Characteriaties of the Genius of Shakapinre. and hi.. Imaginative Faculty In particular. RECITATIONS—The Lunatic, the Lover, and the Poet.—Midsum mer Night's Dream. Mercutlita Queen Mab—Rnmeo and Juliet. IFORialUnthe or supernatural Characters of Shakapeare—Witches lu Macbeth- raffled hi the Midsummer Night's Dream, atc. THE TEMPEST.—Prospero, Ariel. Caliber'. ter. Imitations by other Poets.—Dryden's king Arthur, tee. Dryden and Davenant's alteration of The Tempest, and the present acting arrangement. Digression on the Dramatic and Poetical Genius Dryden. and his attempted Improvements on Shakspe.sre and Milton. To conclude with ALEXANDER'S FEAST. Lecture 11. Friday Camar kr.; Addison's Cato. late John Enable; Inarnatlats and Actors of ( ' he Day. /sc. Mors open at seven. ENO,. at Half-pest Seven. Mores Se.. Pit 35.,, Gallery 2a. Subaerfption for the couno.--Itoxe. 21. es.. Pit IL 4s.— Daily attendance at the Box Office. where places may be taken, and Tickets and Prospeetiniet procured. The Noun has been wall aired, and good Ares will be kept In the lobby. The BITTISH Paso' commenced publishing yesterday morning at half-pan ISia o'clock. LONDON, WEDNESDAY, MARCH 10, 182.1, The state of Spain at present is only what we anticipated for that wretched and oppressed country, mouths since. Tyranny and proscription have done their vile work. Foreign bayonets now hold its provinces in thraldom, and civil war is starting up, with armed bands in its train, in every part of Spain, and from Arragon to Gallicia the spirit of resistance is every day gaining ground, and un furling its standard wider. General hatred to the French seems to be the leading principle of all parties : in that both the Constitutionalists and Fanatics only agree; hatred and discord divide them in every thing beside. In Segovia, or near it, the Cure Merino, lately the partisan of absolute power, is In arms against Fenlinand's Govern ment. In La Mancha, Ovello and another Guerilla Chief avow Constitutional principles ; they 'sacrifice the friars and monks—the enemies of liberty, and after levying heavy oontribntiosw, retire into the mountains. Another strong band of Constitutionalists has taken post amid the fast uessee of the Sierra Morena; their equipments arc all sable, their horses of the same colour, and they wear the ap palling distinction of a death's head on their breasts. These men seem devoted to free their country or perish ; the sta tion they have assumed is almost impregnable, and they will not be easily subdued. Spain, the abode of supersti tion, bigotry, and tyranny, nursed and matured by ages, can only be purged by a lengthened and dreadful ordeal— by the work of time, and protracted and sanguinary con wet ; but the seeds are sown, and freedom ultimately will triumph in that country ; the deadly nightshade of tyranny will be cut down throughout the land. and rational religion and liberty be dominant. This will take place, even though France, with its new Chamber, be completely Royalist. The present elections throughout that country appear to have outgone the expectations of the very ministry who promoted them, and Villele, as the result, already totters to his seat. The Quotidienne even now anticipates • triumph over the Minister, and looks for Royalist reforms all through France. Attempts of this sort, however, may shake the throne of the Bourbons to its very founda tions • deep discontents from the landed proprietors and manufacturers would follow on the first symptoms, and any further attacks on what the Revolution consummated, may bring ruin in their train to the family who countenanced them and their incorrigible adherents.—The Etoik of Mon day state, that l'atras had not yet surrendered to the Greeks; the place was closely pressed. The French pa per insinuates that division prevails among the Greek Chiefs. This we should deeply regret in every way : it would form the only bar that now perhaps exists to the freedom of the gallant Christians ; but the French paper' . 'isto be little relied on. The first numbers of the Greek Gazette, printed at Missoionglii, had been received at Corfu, and created great interest. A French journal, it is said, would also be printed there. The situation of Greece will thus be fairly laid before Europe, and the heroic achievements of her sons detailed. The slander, of the Austrian journal and the Smyrna paper will now be read no more. Lord Byron was still at Missolonglii, and the rights of citizenship were conferred on him in full Se nate. 'Renew poem, The I'riamlhofllellay had been trans lated into Greek. If the genius of Lerd Byron had not ' already immortalized him, his disinterested and generous ' patronage of the Greek cause would be sufficient to crown him with lasting fame and glory. Liberty in Eastern En rope must now be triumphant. These delicious countries, consecrated by every classic remembrance, and enriched by nature with an unsparing hand, must now be free, if Russia does not rush in with her hordes in the moment of completion, and clutch the splendid spoil as her own. The sabre of the Ottoman is broken, and he can no longt r spread murder and violation through Greece with his Ja nissaries, or trample all justice and liberty beneath the hoofs of his Delhis and Spahis. It is a glorious resurrec tion for Greece--an era that wilk i live in immortal history for ever. From the fflowilcur of Sunday, 7th March.] The official part contains only a notice, that Count de Hauck, Peer of France, intends to take the Caine of De Burgh, which is that of the head of his family. The non-official part contains, under the hcad of Vienna, a long report of the commissioners of the sinking fund to the Emperor of Austria, which gives a favour. able view of the operations of the Commissioners in reducing the public debt of the r.inpire, during the ye:,r 13'23- [Front L'Etuilc, Marc Cont r, Frn.B. Patras had not yet surrendered on the &h. It is feared that • secret jealousy between the Greek chiefs has hitherto hindered the pmgres• of the siege. ('olucotroni versists in waking this conquest without the cu-operation of his colleagues. Ile flatters his troops with the support a great Northern power. M%atu 7. BULLETIN OF TUE HEALTH OF TIM raiscrsil or CONDE. .'March 7, Half-past Eight, A.M. " Her Highness has had a very bad night,land this morning the agitation increases; the head turns incesaantly front side to side. Her Highness can distinguish nothing by the eye ; but she still knows the voices of the persons who are usually about her. The breast heaves in a terrible manner. In the midst of these bad symptoms the pulse retains some strength." V. liailli, the wife of General Mina, arrived at Ilavre.de-(irate four days ago, on board a vessel for Lisbon. She is accompa trod by her father. They will proceed directly to London by the packet boat, without going to Cslais, as they at first intended. The first numbers of the Greek Gazette, printed at 31issolorgbi, have been received at ('orfu ; they arc read with extreme avidity. It is announced that a French journal will be printed in the same town. Europe will at length obmin information of what is pass ing, from other organs than those of the Turks. The situation of Ireland end its people, which must always continue a matter of first-rate importance, is again pressing itself strongly on the attention of the Legis lature. Mr. Grattan presented a petition last night front that most respectable body, the Catholic Bishops of Ire land, complaining, and we believe most jertly, of their be ing excluded from all participation in the nienagemcnt of the fund appropriated for national education in Ireland, and stating that at the schools established from this fund, under the Kildare-street Association, proselytism was prac tised, and that Catholic children were in consequcuse not sent there, and forfeited all benefits of the education they might otherwise receive. The Secretary for Ireland, Mr. Goulburn, opposed the reception of the petition, ar contrary to the intention of Parliament, he said, when that fund was established ; and the Right lion. Gentleman argued, that the union of schools was favourable to the general union of the country. Now, we know the situation of Ireland and the disposition of its people, somewhat bet ter and more intimately than Mr. Goulburn, who is a com parative stranger to both, and we know that as this fund is at present managed, it can produce no general good.. Neither the Citholic clergy nor Catholic parents will send the children, born in that faith, to schools wholly un-, der the management of those of an opposite perstiasion, and where the Bible is circulated without either note or comment. The Kildare-street Association is now in the hands and under the control of individuals known for their bitter hostility to (7atholica : their rage for pro selytism and their attachment to sectarian principles anklet as public. The speeches of Mr. Sergeant Lefroy, and Mr. Jackson the barrister, end others who take a leading part at the annual meetings of this body, are full of the spirit of proselytism and exclusion. The Duke of Lein• ster withdrew from the Association, to mark his sense of their intolerance ; in fact, the funds of which this " national education" body have the control are in the hands of a few bigoted sectarians : they go to sup. port some schools, where scarcely any Catholic children attend (and the Catholics form nine-tenths of the popula. tion of Ireland). At these schools the Bible is circulated, without note or comment; and to this not only the Catho lic prelates and clergy, bat many Protestant divines and the ablest fathers of the clime)), are all opposed. The Bishop of Peterborough has condemned the circulation of the Scriptures in this way; and St. Jerome and many other of the early Fathers as strongly reprobated it. That the Education Society in Ireland only perverts the fan& appropriated for a great national purpose, and die rising generation in that country receive little or no benefit from the Institution. Sir John Newport stated his intention to refer the matter to a Committee, when the papers for which he had moved relative to it should be produced he thought some better system could be devised for the' management of the fund; and he deemed it also bat fair that the Catholic clergy should have some control over , it. The fact is, that as this fund at present is managed, it is a mere waste of money—a worse than waste—for it goes into the pockets of a few individuals, who make it a job of profitable intolerance and exclusion. The masters of these schools are all Protestant or sectarians ; the patrons are of the same character. Proselytism is univer sally practised, and the Catholic children, in canseqnence, arc almost entirely kept away. There is not in Europe a purer or more respectable body of men than the Catholic Prelates and Clergy of Ireland; they are sincerely &- voted to the welfare cf their flocks, and would not maker complaints without the strongest grounds for doing so. The benefits of education and instruction would be of in calculable benefit to the Irish people ; but, under the pro. sent system of management, the funds appropriated for that purpose are utt misapplied ; and unless the Catholic Prelates and Clergy are entrusted with s portion of the control over them, the Education Society must fail in eve, y purpose for which it wco originally instituted ; ard, as regards the vast majority of the people of !retina, it will be productive of no benefit whatever. It is melancholy to see the objects of tht Legis lature thus defeated by the interference of a party—a party always opposed to every thing lace union or good of any sort in Ireland—a faction the eternal enemy of the people, and the opposers of every measure that can lead to their amelioration, their happiness, or their union. Mr. Plunkett knows these men, and their characters well; he ought lo interfere and cut up their monopoly by the roots. What a defence must they have, when they can find no advocate fitted to undertake it but Mr. Dawson ! " Paarre Monsieur Dawson ! "—nature over intended him fora parliamentary orator, his smooth face was cast fcr other purposes beside the cares of debate ; Philandering of any sort would be much more suited to him ; in Parliament he is like a fish out of water. The Courier paper, which has latterly become much ; more liberal in its sentiments, has, in its Number of last night, an article on the unfortunate Mr. Conolly, full of good sense and good feeling. The fate of dila haplessgentlennua is, indeed, a hard one. Ile is doomed to a felon'sgarb, and deportation from his hr me, his friends, and his prospects for life, for enact by which, it is true, an itrlividual loss his life, but which was clearly unpremeditated, and the impulse of self-defence at the moment, without any pre vious malice or rremeditation. It is now plain that be was ignorant, when he ('red the fatal shot, that a Magis trate's warrant had been obtained against him ; he was ' resisting what he conceived only to be civil process, nadir which the Constables had no eight to force an entrance through the outer doors or windows. It was sworn on the trial that the warrant was not read, and the unfortunate . Mr. Conolly ccul I tot therefore have been aware of it.. We have said before that it never should have bests granted with such post-haste precipitation, or, if conceded by the Magistrate, he should either have attended himself, or sent a person of conduct and intelligence to superintend its execution, and see that Mr. Conolly was fully apprhr d of its having been issued against him. The crime of man_ slaughter, until late in the last Session, was only punish able with 12 months' imprisonment: an Act of that Par . lkincnt, considering in many instances the serious circum stances of the crime, increased the standard of punishment, and left it discretionary in the Judge presiding to inflict the sentence of a more lengthened imprisonment, or transporta tion for any number of years or far life, should he think the °fence such as to call for that visitation. Mr. ('onolly is, we believe, the first victim to all the reverity of that Statute, and we agree fully with the Courier in thinking that he should not have been cast to such a fate. But Mr. Justice Best is fond of extremes ; be likes to sit clothed in all the terrors of tbejudgment scat. How far, on calmer reflection (though he slept on the conviction of Mr. Co nolly, and pronounced his dreadful doom on the subsequent morning), this award will satisfy his own feelings and a higher tribunal, it is not for us now to pronounce. Tliejustiia of the country, to be resper:ct I, ought to be calm, considerate, and impartial. The.ludge, by ins very office, is considered by the law almost counsel for the accused, where he hes no other urfender ; and heavy and arbitrary sentences have never yet tended to make the laws more respected, or e, 1 e... _........-75,... S