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ich every feeling mac I there is necessity to me men, from sant of considered as mere pro. ner has absolute domi. r returned to all remora• noticed by every Noble remonstrate against erns nt, he replies, pin are business of your '--and , he says, he has a right own property. Falsely of property, they forget animal. That God, in a granted to man the part of the animal world, lords, that dominion is ly, it is a dominion in which we exercise wit hit h render it susceptis I—it sees, it hears, it ith acutevess ali the len of pail'. The er the animal system, tll4, aduiirt the mercy neC —und this alone, irides tic feelings, is sufficient' illy we ought to etereise w our care. If a beast organs which irresistibly satire, like ourselves, to• -if be were but a mos t any appearance of hit asuratile or painful tents would be no necessity to but to consider him as I! before you, my Lords, a being itself, oier which in trust. Perhaps saws die preamble as being found in Bills which ale o Parliament." His Lord -le,_ which stated, That Inrigisty God to grant UL - r lower animal woad—that le granted to him in trust, t uot abuse, the iiiiiinals power." •• Although this e uriusual, it isnot unprc found iu home of the most oriont of all the statutes. entitence tho present Bill Jle—lt may thereby itscul. nude of those who read it o in litany of their implied creation. There are many it tin law can reach, but a • inference, winch , cannot it may be observed, if the Bill, it ought to have living creaturto--why, me a lesson of duty is incul- I thought, with many en. consulted on the subject, 3 wan has reclaimed and most particularly to he m ud u n reclaimed m als tree beyond all due bou side, were them, acid might endanger e of the human species...-. ed in the counts of nature, ci constructed es tEI prey without the interference of pertly the order of thior, ystenotis dispensatious of be useful its reconciling us 4- dud imperfect world.— ot :Averted to in the Bill, eed to mention front the moment. I mean bull ollected a Bill was brought Parliament, for the pure barbarous sport. lint the thut of prcreuting so mush iciety,• particularly in those . were exhilete.l, told the rants neglecting their duty mother grieetince ; but the ito bul was not the object on this acconnt an Hon. from me (Mr. Windham he thtimil objected to the for a moment suppose, if vele whether the animal cre. from cruelty, it would have in, I am willing to do own good feelings, his ge ls of his mind However, eluded in the Bill upon your nigh every attention is e a. ad if it shall be determined g a Bull is a wicked, wail er cruelty, no one can ree being punished. I never ieroic character existed who t acts of cruelty; they Deter as of our army or navy, or character ►n society. Phis nie which in my opiitton de. iiderution of your Lordships, sed into a law, it .al, I lane y salutary etrects.lt must have le minds of. the lower orator, lienee against morality, that ye they had been in the kabit reflection. Ail example of nwirer of act animal will have e servant ; inert though I mu home amongst •lel I atop, there owners. ft wind I aw e the number of iestantes of letters, been detailed to me :ountry, and from one enil of it her. Magistrates and cler represented the necessity ,on the subject. To recite all se almost impossible. 1001 rhich I hued inystlf %Antiwar]. liiititrh men in the use of their inter the strength detach t oy I Iscyoitil their manna pox. r it these sentinels should not i.e isitste it is, that Interest able teem iit to cruelty ; .111 • C NV in •t-leer&'t•. 1* hi re is also a ,et late a horse Inc lilt . it -9, 4148 t ef batik fir the pun •we of whit h coo,tmit.ly pre:.• %Too c their spirits. In this state they ride without regard in their heast. not caring if they return at login, for if they retorts at all ; and these poor creatures are made the victims of their melancholy. 'Vherst are other* who can barely calculate, alter a horse bait arrived at those years, w ien age disqualifies him for further and regular exertion, bow matty days the aiin :d can exist without food, and by means of torture, can be forced to work, and how this, with the skin, will afihrd them adequate profit for the money expended in their purchase. Neither ought that mode lately resorted to by those who coMly lay wagers on the subject, to be permitted with im punity, where by time or °Mil. 111.1111111• of exertion a horse is destined to perform that which is beyond the received opinion of any horse's strength, and upon the uncertainty of which the wager .is resorted to. I base this day received a letter from au Gun. %leather, whit Miami me, that it has come to his knowledge, there ere those, who buy old worn font lihrwit, the skins of which they sell to i.e tanned for hair trunks, the dealt is boiled mid •toold for dog's meal ; but the purchasers then them Woo yard, where no meat is given them, and they sometime* remain there a reeek or a fortnight before they ore killed. In this situation it has been known that tlwy will eat their own dung, and sometimes eat each others inane. from hunger. There is one mail who generally has several of these horses at a time, and he will hot kill any unless the inarket for the tlesh it high enough to allow lain au exurbitaut rofti." (Ifis Lordship, after reeding the letter, vr•served, this Gentleman was ready, before the t'otnniitto?, to prove these things at their Lord *sip,' !ler.) " 1 myself, a Peer of your House, sat also ready to Drove the same statement. Another act of cruelty hisometiince practised by those who impound the trespassing cattle of others, for the law bus provided that notice oldie itepoundiug be sent to the inviter, and then the sitstenance of the animal rests upon himself. But if this animal lie neglect ed, how cruel is its fate; the pauishinent bv• poutoiltug was media agaiust the owner, and not against the anneal confined and deprived of its li. belly : the 14w dui not mean to inflict torture and rh,atfr. There is a descrip:Ma of at l i 11l els, unjustly sty led the emblem of stupidity, which I have even, w?i!t great &woes*, toverbortheueol, nod to whom the 4.1104 of. stupidity has'been given for the pur pose of loatliniit wit:lit:very oppression add cruelty. tVitlioat taking up more of your Lordships' time most patience, I sha'i not allude to any other in stances of cruelty which might he mentioned, they have hero noticed by myself. with cousiderable orisi..ty and reset. Even amongst the lowest of A il beasts, those wits are matched to bruise and wound *!"9;':;" onch other, to the highest order of the species, which are involuntsrily made to suffer the severest torture for the Sport of mail in this high How of Parliament, as a Peer of the Realm, I formally Clare my protest 'gains, the exercise of all such barbarous amusements. This Bill only goes to a certain extent in practically remedying the evil ; beyond that, it may have an instructive influence ; by teaching the lower orders humanity towards the brute creation, they may learn benevolence to wards each other. As to wild animals, if we re claim them, let them he reclaimed for our food, amusement. Of our curiosity ; but they ought to be applied to all these purposes with mo deration, and without torture, or unnecessary pain. With regard to the second consider ati of the Bili, it may be said in objection it will be very difficult to distinguish between the exercise of the utmost strength of an animal for the vacate which we are sometiairs obliged to ap ply it, and that over-exertion, which cruelly de strays or tortures the animal. The treatment of aniusals by beating may also be tinestionable. But can a magistrate doubt of the case, when the principle of the bill ought to be applied ? Let him consult his own feelings; lie twist be aware of the fact, and it most strike him as wilful, wanton, and malieious. The principle is not new, it is .now exercised in the law between an apprentice and bis master. A wanton act of cruelty is there punished, and there exists no. difficulty in a Magistrate's drawing the disti ne tion of what is cruelly. The seine principle has long been known and acted upon in the case of master and servant. I will appeal to my Noble and Learned friend on the' Woolsack, and to my Noble and Learned Friend near him (Lord Ellentrareagh) if they colisider it in the least a new prineiplr ; or, if in administering the provisions of the Bill there would he any difficulty in making the application? Oue evil of many penal statutes is avoided—l have not resorted to informers ; I have cons'gned the brute creation to the protection of the generous and the compassioinite." His Lord aliip concluded, by assuring the Rouse no difficulty would be found in executing the intention amid prin ciple of the Bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR rose for the purpose of signifying the Bill in its principle shoot.' have his support. There were some of its provisions which tailed for serious consideration, and would justly occupl` the Rtteution of the Rouse, when they should g o into a Committee. The Bill was then read a second time, and or dered to he minimally. the second day after die recess. Adjourued. • • HOUSE OF COMMONS The Dublie Pipe Water Bill was read a third time and passed. Upon the motion alb, LORD ADVOCATE of Scort,aw n, the Mame resolved itself into a Committee upon the Scots Militia Families Bill ; the report of shich was received, and ordered to be taken into further consideration us Thursday IDEA The Hone, in • Committee, went through the Customs Juriedietton Bill, and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. Mr Fnerro pve notice that be would to-morrow move that the Honor do resolve itsel into a Committee to censi ger of making farther provision for erecting Churches and Clonseis in Ireland. Mr. PVTER Motto, moved, that the Report of the Com mittee on the Illghgate Archway Bill, be re-committed, on the ground that it loot not been sufficiently discussed in the Committee. On this motion, after worse uppositioo, the House divided, when there appeared, low the Cummins' ... 35 AZDOISt it Majority The IMF was theft ordered to be re-reason ted to lb. same (cumin tee. A message from the Lot& acquainted the Moose, they 14,1 agreed to the bill for ranting six millone by fineheipier hire, and Waal prirstg bills. . f ~ . . .... . , . . . . i Mr. \VIII roRTAD tom to si l liiii4 a motion to the Mr. Vt 'AiTititgAD took this opportunity o f a ski ng House, of which he had given mince, and which, a question relative to A subject he had occasion to ,' though in motto?, perhaps trivial. was, iii another advert to on a former night, whether it was intend- 1 point of view, p e rh a ps mat er ial, Hs it commented the ell to make any regulations so much teamed ni thee army. It respe. tell a.person holding SA situation, Stamp Office iii Scotland'? to which lie shuuld never have been appointed, Mr. ilspittiaosi directed the atteption of the when there were so many who had served ilia Ma- lion. Gridiron.) Manila paper, liy 'valet' it would jesty. who should have been preferred, and which, appear that several regulations and ameedinelits he was sure, they would be happy in procuring.' He had already taken place its that departo.eut. meant the olliee of *tore-keeper to the depot in The House then resolver, itself into • a Commit- Hyde-park, which had been besMweil ou one who tee, in which. on the motion of Mr. Ppacevea, it hail never been iii the army, when such appoint- was resolved that leave be asked to brig in a Bill tneuts might be supposed to he peculiarly intended for the purposes above mention , re ; and 'the Report fur such whose'imet services mi4ht entitle them to of the Committee being received by the Ilouse, comideratiou. In addition to this. mot as what he leave was giveo accordingly. considered *farther diell.O4llfiCAHo9, he understood The Committee nu the Irish Militia Completion the person lee appointed weir a foreigner, who hid Bill was postponed till to-morrow, as was the se been recommended to the Master-General of time cowl reading te the Windsor Forest Bill, to Wed- Ordnance. /le moved, " That there be laid be- nestle). ee'imight. fore the I false, the particulars of the appointment Mr. Rose moved fir hence to bring in a Bill to of -Christian Frederick Wetter to the office of &named the several Acts now iii force for the better store-keeper to the depot in Hyde-park, together atkoring the payment of Wages and Prisestuoary with the aluonut of his Remy, allowaneee, and per- due to wagerer serving on board His Majesty's quieitee." Navy. He stated the principal objects winch he • Mi. WRet.esaav Pore, avowing. that the ap- considered as requiring arinaMinesit to be, further poiutment in question had originated with him, regulations respecting the %Ville of Seamen. as al felt himself called upon to state the particulars of so a further facility of devoting a part of tlitir pay the trees:union. The person alluded to had been to the support of their felonies without the seer,- in the service of a relation of his, and lie had now arty of incurrinithe replete of stamps upon the tilled his present situation for upwards of four yearn, power of attorney, for that perpoee. He ',hiked, without a eingle complaint against him for negli- if possible, to suggest seine further regulations fur genes or iiiieernolost. Tht llonee would recolleee the purpose of seaming reteineu from the teats of that the necessity of reinuvilig time powder from the • harpies, who ontoriously preyed upon them; loot Tower had been felt and agreed u l nae, and Hyile- °Vine , ' that after die most 'results consideration he iiiirk vats fixed upon as the most eligible situntioa, could devise no remedy that did not stein likely to Its the dieraiarge of the duties of the office, constuut be worse than the disease. • e w e s :ewe ~,„s e h ee h ite i, necessary, as ' , fl i t t er Sir essaLxii l'oLe declared he considered the was delirering nut almost every day. Upon t hi s facility of transmitting tutelary to the fimilies of account, knowing the steadiness and integrity of seamen,. as a measure more calculated to bcoefit this man, soil having heed acquainted with him the parishes, where they reepectively resided, tbau tweety Bears, lie having live.l with Mr. Villem the era service itself, as those seamen who so sent thirty-tire years, he had at the instante of his their money found themselves after long service, friend and relation recommended him to Lord entitled but to a trifle. without considering the Chatham, who had applied to him to name a.person matter, at the time that °Atm more worthless were tit fe lie appointment. With respect to his birth; receiving large sums due to them for pry. Leath: he. was an Hanoverian, awl had been to this was riven to bring in the fill. country thirty-seven years. The salary was mile one Air. Rose likewise ;Rowel for leave to bring in a hundred pounds a-year, .withoat any perquisites, Bill for the further encouraging seamen to enter eeceptiug sr lodging, which was absolutely sieve- into Iliii Majesty's 'terrier, and for the better regu sary for the person attending them ; witb reaprie hating Greenwich Hospital. Ile stated the obit st to coals and candles, he could say nothing. •Me of his Bill to be the further fucilitating amid secur had no objection to the motion of the Hoe. eke. ringthe payment of prize-money clue to the sailors. Sir CHARLES POLB suggested the necessity of tleinati, viehing at the same time it might be clear ly understoird, diet whatever was the nature of the attending to the regulation of the Final called the blame. drat seemed to be thrower on the train,- Seamen's Chest. He also adverted to r , list he bed action ; he wished to take tiles/hole of it nu him- ,aid on 'a former night, of the impossibility of iii- - self, as it was by his iiiterfereuce the appoitament videale discharging the duties of King'a Advocate, had taken place, and King's Proctor, on account of the multiplicity Mr. WtorsneAs, in explanation, said, he had of business attache:l to those offices in the cirri thrown no blame on env person whatsoever ; MI he Courts, where also His Majesty's-Attorney-Geseml had raid was, that in his „ ii i„ i „, the n „ i i tsi . s were could schism attend on account of his other nerves.. the wept* persons on whom each appniiittnents serrevoeations. He declared his willingness to I should Ini bestowed ; and lie 11Ali sore he could get support the present or any other measure that a Intirdred officers who mould be happy to accept could be for the benefit of seamen.. • it. Ile also thought the. :fester General of the . Mr. ROBERT WARD defended the character of Sir Christopher Robinson. the torero/ stings Ad upon should have boated out for some moth, upon whom to bestow it. vocete, ou whose talents and vairsbiltties be Sup.. The mown was agreed to. posed the last speaker had made an attack. Mr. Fusret brought iu his Bill for oiraiaino time . Si( CNARLES PPM; nrefiniardsthattelsis eilsserrae tines had been pointed not agamet individuals, but hogs in Ireland, which was revel a first time, and ordered to be primed. Upon• the niotiou fur its egirinet the office itself, cowsiderine the business braise read a second time. quite too much for one person to he Mae to Ms- Mr. alit:nice Flint:BRAM) declared lie milli- c harli e . tiered the Hill as preposterous in its nature, and Thai Arroasstr-Gencams trueterl i that when only teinlitig to the purposes of a job, business required, he was not wanting in hie duty ; Sir JOHN NEWPORT objected to the me +sure cs at the same time he owned, there was a very heavy it went to appoint Col ttttt issioners even without laces of business attached to the offiee. Mr. Jutiesoo declared, he knew that the situ.- salaries, as it could nut tot elipposed that any per son winch! be (flood to give: lip tbeic time and tion of King's Advocate had been uttered to two trouble for nothing. civilian's 'teatime to Sir Chrietneher Itobieeota, that is, it had been intimated to them succeseivek Mr. PRICETAI. Asa sure that Gentlemen, in oh that they might have it upon application,, but that jectiug, were unacquainted with the provisious of they lied declined it, as too laborious for theta to the Bill, which went merely to appoint Coutinise snifters to inquire amid report to tut House bow undertake it. far it. was practicable to reclaim bogs; 'upon whose Leave was given to brine in the Bill Mr. Ibis RY THURSTON nerved diet die order of report, SUCiI further proceedings, it soy, might be adopted as *lipoid seem likely to promote the end m the day for the Hoe reeolviiig itself into a Corn init proimsed. . tee to take into cousideraient the Third Report of the Commissioners appointed to omissive into the Mr. FOSTER briefly repeated what he hail stated state 1.1 . public ofi;eee be pu.tprined till Friday next, on a former night, as to the object of the bill, which was not intended to put the pulaie to en which Was *,reed to' SUPPLY AND WAYS .AND MEANS. expense, and so could nut be suspected to b e a W. Mr. its aerie brolUglit err the Reports of . the job. Com:nature of Supply and of Ways and Mame. Mr. Ponsoort said, he umlerstood the object the reeolutione of which, after *rime conversation of this bill WHY pretty nearly the same as that between Mr. TlEResv, the CN scELLot of the famous measure which had formerly taken place to r . --4; A e x Nat West, fool fl ol Mr. ueittlieriel, were sevierally thiS country, and known by the name of the Bedford * . agreed to, and lolls ordered necordinglv. Level ; mud its that view he entirely approved of it, PRErfiNTION UT THE SALE OF it. (TICE& To survey vast tracts of ground, where so nom) , in- The CHANLEI.T.oR of the FACILIBQUIR moved the terests were concerned, was loud impracticable ; further consideration of the Report of the bill for for what was every body's butiness, was well known the Prevention of the Sale of Public Offices. by practicable experience, to be nobody's hueinees. Mr. PONSONIST ,Ipserved thet some of the opera. 'I lie object, therefore, as he understood it. was to lions of this Bill 11S to the Court of Chancery make this survey, and then the individual propane- in ( re b in d, m i g h t b e ree s ome j rat h er severe , torn might, if they pie:meet, carry mi the omit of as the Chancellor in England appointed the improvement. for certainly the public hail no right Masters in Chancery ; but in 'milord the Crown to interfere with their property. appoititeal them ; u circumstance which created cer. Mr. Buts Alto approved of the bill. which was tain hardships which he should wish a clause prepare ordered to be read a second time on Tliuretley ed to prevent occurriug in'filture. next. . The Cuero:Eu.oa of the ERCH=QUIR Welshed Mr. PeacevAL moved. that, the /loose resolve the Right Him. Gent. to prepare a clause to effect itself into. Committee. to take iato consideration the object he had in view, as he eeemeol to under die Excise Laws.. Ile stated the object he had in stand the matter touch better than he did. view, was to propose certain alterations with respect Mr. Possoeur replied he should be very happy to the attendance of the Officers in the Excise to do so. • Office, which under the mailing regulations was Lord Fot.asToxe said. be hail nriginall? intend from the hour of eight in the morniug to two in the ed to suggest a clause in the Committee. of a pe intuition. This might have been sufficient for the ma t wa i ve ; which, however, he had afterwards business at the time it Was adopted ; but Irons the thought would be rather seem e ; but still, upon increase of that branch, was now found to be Merle- lookiiig at the Bill, Hi it SUM 1110011, it appeared grate ; and he therefore propoeed to extend the to be perfectly nugatory, males* some penal clause attendance to three. He also proposed aboliehing were i ntroi l wee d. 'lice Lill made certain deeds miee-Aeineanours, hot gave no Intone whatever to some of the holideys at tht office, which were found to be a very great waste of the public time. In midi- lead to thscovery of offenders. except in the case of tionalso, he meant to propose the adopting certain advertisements for the sale of offices, being ac grounds and principles on which to (ousel the sus tmilly inserted, and iiillicted us pensities upon peranuuation of the Officers in the Excise Office in eaual discovery and detection, excent 'melt as future. m i g ht be awarded by a Court of Justice ; now lie Mr. PowsoltaT hoped the Right Hon. Gentle- conceived that .nch a mode as that proposed would, man won'd be prepared t o / t a t e t h ose gr ou n ds in instead of facilitating the discovery of offence*. the Committee. as lie conceived great rare should make them more difficult to be discovered. He be taken how far the priuciple was extended. should therefore propose. that this Bill slsoald tie Mr. HUISIIIION explained that hitherto the tree- recommitted, in order that's clatter to that etlicS sury had so power of supenionuating the officers in m i g h t b e i„ trog i„,,,,j. the Excise, however well founded their 'Aaiun This being. Aigrcesi to, time Bill was accordingly might be for such inclulgeuce ; and it was intended recommitted, mud in the prevent cese to proceed upon the MOM regu- Lord For IIITOWE proposed the insertion of a lesions as oow existed its the Cadmus. clause inflicting a .6iie of &MI. or both tills and • • -... • is• V0 4 '. 4 ' .---- "/A1u".......- : Tiii i iiiiiiiidak r aW.. :...h.L-.-1-- • • • . • Imprisonment. upon the person oho diapered of such offices, mid that the tine should he pate to the perms who should iiitorm and sue for the same, even although that person should be the oue who had actually purehased.the office. The CIiAnCEI,IIoR of the EXcnr.QUElt said, he apprehended the Committee would nut go this length, for he thaeght the Bill would halm a suf.. ictent elect without rue', a clause. He would not wish to purchase the object in view by Inch wales, as would exonerate a person who get the situation from any pain or punishinein, sod not dismisses" him of tile piece he had so irregillarty procured.— The wan alto obtaiiird the office might be induced to do so more for the sake if ohtaicing the tine, than for the emoluments of the ck:e r.ear. Ih short, he might be a most iatfamous 'ironwarel that might lay a snare to entry!) the meg Mout:reit. Mr. TIRP.X CT atipprntvd the chime, as. the only means of detecting the g•iilty. Lord FOLKSTONE Rtishod, that without .11001 a clause the Bill would only fir.:d out art mein to such traffic as woulif render the Bill p, r. feed), nugatory. He 'lever thought the 1311 aouid . do a great deal of good, lint without a clause of • this penal nature, it would do a emit deal of harm. fhe CIiANCELLOII. of the EICHRQUER ridded, that he had really ho other view than to carry the measure into effect, but he slid not approve of this plan of obtainiug information. A person might obtain air office who might have give., money to the person applying to Man (tile Cheneellor of the Eecheeper) entirely without his konwtodge, would it not be .unjust to impose a doe, ooder sot It circumstances, upon the person ismocent ty such an office ? Besides this, every individunl in the least acquinoted with the fact, might be liable to the penalty. Lord H. PI,TTY supported the clams upon the ground that the same objection as had !been urged against it, might be apill:eablit toinformers in gene ral; and it NIA ell known that many were envoi' sag. oil by bribery and other acts. lie thought Ma( the Bill, without such a clause, would have no goad effect at all, for nu inducement to •!isisevery could only be furnished by giving the penalty to One of the parties concerned in the traffic. Mr. Hose, the ATTORREY-GENERAL, and the SoLICIToIt-GESERAL, argued against the clause, as they wished to prevent the guilt without expos ing the innocent to a greater danger than the law thought proper. It etas sell known how feeble defence that of character is when opposed to that of positive testimony, and that po itive testimo ny toe, given by one who had no other object in . view than that of ruing the money specified as a penalty. The Hume might tremble for the come wires after what they had lately *ern at the bar 4 that House. If was holding out a great temptation to perjury, while.there were many other mows by which a discovery might be effected without having recourse to each a mode se that proposed. • After some further conversation upon the. pro. priety of adopting this clause a divisiou tooh•plac e — For the ',toilet' • 3l Agalset it 111inotity .4 f,he other tinsel' were then gone through,. the Howie resumed, and tile report was (Mitred .to be received to-morrow. IRISH DISTILLERY BILL. Mr. FOSTER moved the second reading of the Irish Distillery Bill. Mr. B liP4111:111 opposed the further progress of the bill ; it was framed contrary to the iuterests o Ire. land, sod contrary to the opinion of theCcmmissioies era of Inquiry, who recommended the encouragement of small solidus the best means of encouraging legal distilleries. and the isicreitee of the revtuues. But contrary to this the of jest of the bill was to increase the peualtiee, if not to tlceilile them ;—there could be no necessity for this one, ity, for in the county of Cavan. in one year, fines to the amount of ee,oool. had been lo ice', while WM. only could he collected ; immense 418419 were at the same nine paid its rewards. He would have wished to post pone Ms objections to the tail , till it went into a Committee ; but the principis Of it was so bed, that he should move, " that it be read a second time this day three months." Mr. STUART, in recommending the Bill to be now read a second time, said he did not , wish to be tin. ders:ood as expressing his 'unqualified 'approbation. but would elect to souie clauses wheu the Bill went to a Committee. Sir GEORGE HILL eepressi d his surprise at the Hoo. Gentleman opposing the Lill—if he had paid due attention to it, lie would have been couviiiced of the propriety of its going o a Ciimmittue : he could say with confidence that there was not out objection but might then be fairly settled. Mr. PARNELL rose to support the amendment be said this B:II was for the purpose of amending a Bill to secure the better collection of the ditties on spirits io lrehmil ; it went to uphold laws which' had been Meffectu.d ; that Bill had been formed on had principles and another might be introduced iu its stead. The t r3minittee had recommended 10 assimilate the laws of Ireland on this subject. to those formerly made for the low lands of Scotland, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer for Ireland might to have brought in a Bill con fortnahly with their opinion, or have explained where that Committee was wrong ; and although the p i ll contained * clause to license small stills. • it was founded on a wrong principle, as the reve— nue hail loot from a million to a million and a half Mt the het which th.is was to supersede. An Holt. Jirinher behind hint hnJ thought th:s 11 , i1 could be amended to the Committee. but lie was of opinion that it could not. Mr. FOSTER said, it was admitted that theslaws on this subject wanted amendment : he knew that they did. and it was an object that the. bill should go to a Committee ta tied nut the best imale. There was not one Henze in the Bill contrary V, i;!* opinion of the Committee; there was a ciao, tea prody for the encoMagement ofeinall stills, am' if any Bent. wished tor rhe clawse, he would seed it to latighl. The Ht. linn. Gent. then read the clause, and arguerrthat it *us one of the lend. cat rriticiples of tlie bill to license small stills. Hie obiect fur isitradocin it was, that it would •tfiirel a market throng:loot the country for smell teenier, to s:4l their corn. Whether the dittos went raised by surrey or licence, he was sure they cowld 'lever be es , llceied without the co-operetion of gentlemen .