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freedom of either himself or his family, and he therefore expected that that experiment would. ha ...totally inoperative, unless it in duced the other colonies; to imitate it. It wan certainly true that se e colonial assemblies had adopted very strong language ; but it Rua tint so strong as had been adopted when first the abolition of the slave trade was diflCUalled ; they then, one and all, talked of gilline into their protection the assistance of other powers, and of . removing themselves entirely from the sway of the British Go- T ernment, and Ruch a feeling wan to be expected. The measure was steadily persevered in, and the colonies at last acquiesced, and 'thin should teach us not to exchange railing the railing. but to take ou r measures temperately and firmly, and not to be deterred from following the line of our duty by contumacious warnings or ne mesia threats. Supposing that Mr. 'Sunda; or Mr. Burke were bow ID existence, he very well knew the course they would pursue; he remember d, on the great question of the abolition of alsiery, ' as expression of Mr. Burke's, which was strictly applicable to the present subject ; speaking no that question, he observed, that " he greatly usistrustel any general principle without positive rege-i ladonn so enforce it." Mr. Ihmilas concurred is that sentiment, aod if there was any thing peculiar in his character, it vas the possession of a sound, solid, Scotch understanding (laughter), and the sot being deterred from what he thought to be his duty. Both he and Mr. Burke had said, that it was iii vain to leave that question to the colonies, and that all that had been done by Ihe colonial assemblies was arrant trifling, for want of an executory principle.' Ile (Mr. Wilberforce) did not know whether he ahoukl not have been more afraid if the colonies had passed laws for the aifieliotation of the slavers, u it was well known that there had been a content for yearn between the Patricians and Plebians of the Boman Statist for the privileges of the latter, and when at last they were conceded. it was many years before they enjoyed them; and in the West Indies also, although laws might be passed, still it wan likely that they would by connivance be rendered wholly inopera tive. The Colonial Assemblies had declared that they would suffer no interference between master and "lave. Both by words and ac oons they had declared it, and had stated that by our in;•.-ferance a violence would be done to their feelings, and perhaps their destruc non produces!. When these Colonists di-approved alike of our means and our end., what could we expect from them mere they to' gain a liCtOry ? If any thing was to be done, it must be done by the Parliament, and not by the Colonial Assembly ; if the matter scare to be left to them it would lead to even'', that we should all del lore. He would not piss a law an .Ir. Burke and Mr. Pundits :oopossed ; but there were war. olcunipellingthem to fall in with our views, which 'mold be equally henehmal to the master and slave; the master would be surrouneed br MI industrious, comfortable. and happy peautory ; any other me,aure would make the mtivare sensi hle of their fallen condition. In all other countries individuals might Ate from obscurity to affluence and honour ; they know that no such road is open ;o them ; they feel that they are slaves, and grieve at their degradation. His lion. Friend hail spoken of a pro situation. He WAS a stranger to it, and therefore did not know what it was; hut there was one circumstance of which he must ex press his abhorrence, and that was, that the whip was still used as an Incentive to labour ; it VMS the practice throughout the whole of the West Indies, and this was a fact that no one could deny, and as a proof of it. he would quote a passage or two from the work of a icentleman who was no friend to the views he (Mr. W.) took on this subject. (The lion. Member here read some extracts from the work of 31r. Bryan Edwards, confintutiory of what he had stated, as also to sinew that the practice of branding was kept up both with regard to the African negro and the Creole). The Hon. Gentleman having concluded, Mr. nannies Mr. BEIIIPIAL. and Mr. XxtTtt DOUGLAS rose. The Cali; were very loud for Mr. BARING, but Mr. IN /COLAS having first caught the Speaker's eye, proceeded by mating, that from information which he had re ceived from the agents of the %Vest India proprietor*, on their account he most sincerely wished that many ot the topics touched on by his Hon. Friend opposite (3lr. 11 ilk/force) had been spared. One of the greatest inconveniences to which the Went Indiana were exposed was, that their ease was not rightly understood. No c un could be ignorsnt that, within the last year only, there was not a single colony, with the exception of Jamaica, in which the subject ot slaves was not under conseduation. The anxiety which the Gentlemen of die West Indies felt was, that the lucation should be rightly understood. They wished that the colonial government migh: have an opportunity of fairly stating to the House the con dition of the population of the West holies. The greater par. tioo of the speech oldie Honourable Member wan inaudible, from thenorse in the !louse at the time of its d e li ve ry. Mr. HAKIM& mid that he had listened with the greatest atten. tion to the very beautiful speech of his Honourable Friend the .Member tor Healthier (Mr. Wilktrforce) ; end it would be most vain in him to suppose that, after sych a speech, he could suc ceed in detaining, even for the shom period that he meant to ad dress them, the attention, still leas did he aim at exciting the in terest. of the House; but he was very anxious to follow hie Hon. Friend, in order to impress on the House, along with him, the very imminent state of the present question—that it was utterly impos sible for this country any longer to hesitate between these two qua nom. It was impossible for the House either to sit down patiently, or, on the other hand, suffer themselves to be driven about by every veering of his Majesty's 31 inisters, and have new opinions to seek with every fresh mail that arrived from the West Indies. (Hear.) Fur it was not to be concealed, that according as it was popular— as a revolt occurred or tranquillity presented itself, did lie polities of his Majesty's Government vary upon this Wen India question. His Honourable Friend—and he would not suppose that he (31r. Baring) questioned the sincerity of his statement for a single mo. inent—had told that House,that the discussions in that House had produced no effect upon die people of the {bleat Indies. That was his statement and how had he attested its a:curacy ? By assuring the douse that they were then on the very brink of a precipice. (Hear.) That upon our present legislation depended, if rot the possession, at least the strong cbatre of losing these Colonies. (blear, from Mr. Buxton.) '1 hen he would ask the Hun. Gent. what was. it but the debates of that Haute which had induced the Sanger. end made the West India population so changed within se limited a per od ? It lay with the Hon. (Indianan to shew that it had arisen—that this obvious change in the habits and feelings of •people bad arisen from some other source, or he had a right to assort that to this obvious and striking source was it attributable. He believed that the state of feeling to which he had alluded—that ef independence and acute sensibility to power on the part of the people, and of irritation on the part if the masters, made it quite Impossible that they could live as heretotore they hail lived in the same relation toleach other; therefore he contended that it became the duty of the House to press upon his Majesty's Government the strict necessity of adopting some distinct, intelligible, and definite course on this subject. (Hear, hear.) What was there of distinct. MU, or--if the Hight Hon. Gendeman would excuse him—what nes there intelligible in his proposition ? It was the proposition oethetieweennienr, which was one of the most singular instances of a breach of privilege ever practised against that House. It was simply this, seldrened to the dissatisfied states—" I send you here with the speech of Mr. Canning, and you will please to regulate your conduct by it." (Hear.) Now, as he said before, he would defy the House or the Colonies to determine what was intended by the statement. The people were excited by exaggerated state. stems to revolt ; five or six thousand of them were to be shot, and then a system of unintelligible policy was to be the result of false statements andeerroneous policy. On the score, therefore, of hu- Manity and policy, he called upon the Government to interfere, and to define the condition of mamas and slaves once and for ever. Individuals had long since, under various associations, guided by new, in his opinion, unseen lights, had proceeded to alter the medition or the people of the Wst Indies, to give a new charac ter and a new eh:ration to their thoughts and feelings, and in some respect they had acted wisely; in all instances be made no doubt they were governed be the bent and the purest motives. First of ad they extinguished that odious traffic, that stain upon humanity and disgrace of our nature—the trade in slaves. (Hear.) They went further, and formed immunities for improving the con dition of slaves. These people, who had made this honourable toil the business of their lives, suffered occasionally their feelings to carry them beyond the bounds of ptudence ; and now was the period, since they had excitedemt merely ea the colonies themselves, but in this country, such ardent feelings in favour of a universal enaneepation of the slaves, it became at this moment the imperative duty et his Majesty's Ministers to cheek and nstrain—sye, and by positive enactment circumscribe their earner, or to go slung with them to the onsunimation of that work which they had commenced, fed which it seas quite idle to imagine, if left to their own impulses, they would speedily accomplish. (Loud sheers.) The society ler ameliorating the condition of slaves, by whatever name it was terrued--witether it took the broad name eel the Anti-Slavery Society be knew not—prosecuted its work with uqcessing vigour, and sent forth its messengers and agents to every town in the kingdom, to agitate the people of this country by the thrice-told tales of the Ilea. Member who spoke second in the debate. (Hear, hear.) Ile spoke with perfect knowledge on that subject, for in the town he had the honour of repronnting, in Taunton, on a market day, he had heard one of the agitators edifying the people by the same gross exaggnations which the Hon. Gaitleman had brought for ward on that night in support of his Society. (Hear.) %Vhen he used the word exaggeration, he by no means meant to assert that die facts as staled were faire (cheering): he meant that t:it application of them was false. He was convinced that as re presentative* of the general conduct of the plantets, they were ut terly and wholly without fuundacion. (Cheers. I If any man were In take the late occurrences st Hertford, and represent them as elessacterisde of the general habits of the English people, though the farts were perfectly true, the application would be false, and more false than the inferences drawn from the cases with which they Mel been favoured by the Hun. Gentleman. After all, the evi dence by wisieh these statements were supported, though open to suspicion, had never been sifted by the lion. Gentlemen. lie had not the least doubt but he had made up his mind never to believe a word pmentling (rum the mouth of a planter. (Hear.) " I re member," said 111 r. Baring. " to have travelled in America with a eery intelligent and able Frenchman, M. de Hochefouniuk. A friend who travelled with us--and to whose merriment M. de Rochefoucault's stories much contributed—ventured to inquire feom him, on one occasion, how he became the possessor of I ' o many pleasant stories ? • M'lty the real tact is,' was the reply, :that when I hear a good story I never like inquiring about it, lest It should be spoiled"' (Hear, and laughter.) So it happens with my Hon. Friend; he will not investigate, lest any inquiry *null interfere with that sensibility which he anticipates must be excited by his facts. Now what was the question at issue ? If there was that state of abomination in the colonies that was re presented, it was not fit they should any longer exist ; but it was no proof whatever to his mind of the existence of these atrocities. These stories were all favourites with the lion. Gentleman (Mr. Buxton); their names and the marks on their shouldm of the suf. testa were rin e eig in his ears ever since list year. Indeed never had heard a eiegle speech on the snbject of slavery, in which the name of Huggins was not introduced. But God forbid that he should say this system of slavery was &desirable system; it was not. Hut the treatment of the slave was not as had been remesented. Tile whip was used, and sometimes improperly ; if the infliction on a rash one it °eget to be checked, and so far lie certainly ap proved of the statement anti view of the Right Hon. Gentleman, 'bee an interval uf deley should take place between the punishma t and the offence for which it was inflicted. With respect to the moral condition of the slave, it was necessary in tolerating& punishment, to look to the party in that light who became its object. In the House, very recently, an Ibmourable Gentletnan in the army declared that without punishment discipline would not be maintained. And if not, how wits the conditiori of a people like the West India slaves more elevated, and more aueseptible of moral infiumiCe, than the soldiers of a civilised country 1 (liras.) In his mind this argument was quite unanswerable, and it would be much more Tea. amiable to abolish flogging in this country, than utterly so discard it in the West Indies. lie thought that the opening of this ques tion by the Right Honourable Gentleman was deficient—it wanted decision—it wanted political courage—it was full of uncertainty. He agreed, however, in the experiment proposed upon Trinidad, with the exception of the fringe and lawn sleeves; it wit, in his mind, perfectly good. and might be tried with safety • but why not apply the system to the other colonies :- 1 If he was a Jamaica man he should have acted just in the planters there had done. They were dealing with a government who had no will of their own. He should thercTore have said at once "We areitn independent legislation —we discard all interference—if you choose to exercise force we mast submit to it, but we will not wil lingly submit. Let us know the extent of your requisition, and then shall •we reply." But there were in the House some UM Members not satisfied even with the extent to which this Govern ment meant to proceed ; of such a class was his Hon. Friend who had spoke second in the debate. (Mr. Buxton) lie however, would not condescend to tell how tar he meant to go, what was his plan, or what system lie proposed. All that lie (Mr. Baring) wished was, to see the plan recommended by the Right Ilonourab'e Gen tleman carried into etrect in our own colonies and recommended to others. Ile was quite sure such a course, if temperately recoil]. I mended, would be adopted by the other islands. This question I ought now at length to b.] set at rest ; it was admitted that every time it was agitated the property of th %Vest Indians was thrown j into complete uncertainty. Now he was desirous that this subject should be so settled that every man, whether black or white, should be enabled at once, and for all, to read his Constitution. It was remarkable that America should not have practised first upon her own slaves that lesson which she was so anxious to teach us. He had been accused frequently of too friendly a feeling tor America, but he hesitated not to say that her advice was not disinterested. She well knew that the freedom 6f the Shiers must throw the colo nies into her handt and that her best advantage was, in pre saihng upon England to adopt this policy. Ile was surprised, too, to hear the admission of the Hight Honourable Gentleman that AMCTICS was the second maritime country in the world. There was one point mnre,the p etitions had usually on this question con. tabled an Intimation et the willingness of those who signed them to participate in any expense that might arise to the plonter from the lost of his pmperty. lie was strongly disposed to believe, how. ever, that their sentiments on this nubject would yield before salt tax, or any tax which Government might feel disposed to , impose, in order to cover the loss of IM millions to the West India proprietors. Mr. Secretary PEEL remarked, that the charge against the Government with which the Honourable Member had commenced i his speech, might have been severely felt, had not the rest of his speech been an eulogium upon the conduct of the Government. lii admitted that a state of slavery, and particularly that slavery I ,which existed in the West Indies, was intolerable ; he admitted that the feeling of the rnuntro was most hostile to slavery, and that, order these circumstances, something intelligible must be adopted by the Government on this momentous question. Now there were, as it seemed to him, only the course to pursue which j Government had adopted. and of which the very speech of the lion. Member MRS the wannest eulogy—namely, to make an ezreriment in legislation in those colonies, in which the au thorny of the Croon to legisinte was beyond all question.! From the admission of the Hight Hon. Gentleman himself. he was warranted in saying, that the course pursued by Government was the only course that discretion or prudence could adopt. The lion. Member time liramlxr (Mr. Wilberforce), was an advocate for despatch in legislation, and he professed the most sovereign contempt time solonial legislation ; but how were they, if such laws Were as that lion. Aleteiber had desired, enacted here, how was it possible that they could not be enforced. The course mom- Mendell by his Right Hon. Friend with so much eloquence, with so much ability, and with such moderation, was the only course that a wise Government could pursue. lie was convinced that wisenother island, saw the consequences of the beneficial regulations which it was the object of government to introduce there, where their powers to legislate where unquestioned, other colonies would see the advan tage, and anxious'' , adopt the improsement. He had now shortly satisfies the lit u.e, that even front his own argument, the spree of the Honorable Member for Taunton (Mr. Baring) was the best possible tulogtum upon the course adopted by his Majesty'a Dr, LI 'S II I X 0 TON observed, that upon this subject he had very trifling hopes of any cordial co-operation from colonial legislatipo. It had been stated that the proceedings of the House were eaten laird to produce mischief, and promote insurrections in the 'West ,Indies; but he (Dr. bushington) was of a different opinion, and he believed the speech of the lion. Member for Taunton, of last year, as well as of this, was calculated to cause more insurrections in the It Indies than that of the most determined speaker on the other side. He (Dr. Luehington) thought that the whole system must stand condemned. and did stand condemned by every Slember who was disinterested en the subject. Ile was aware that there were so many difficulties in the way of total amelioration, that the attempt must fail ; but the Legislature of this coun'ey were not, therefore, to remain idle spectators of the misery and degrada tion of the West India population. There were two dangers which were to be contended with—procrastination on the one hand and precipitation on the other. But it would be injurious to the cha recta of the nation, affect the honour of the House, be acting un just towards 700,000 human beings, and be a stain on the character of the Right lion. Gentleman himself, if he abandoned the senti manta which had received the unanimous approbation of She Heuer during the last Session of Parliament. He (Dr. Lushingtoo) was convinced the present plan would be of the utmost benefit to the West India Proprietors themselves, and that, if they consulted their own interests, they would go h and in hand with his Majesty's Ministers in endeavouring to produce that complete reform in the West Indies which would do so much towards fitting the slaves for better purposes than those to which they were now destined. He (Ih. Lushington) wished that the colonial proprietors abroad would not inflame the minds of the slaves, by depriving them of all hope of happiness or comfort. Could he be told that such a speech as that of the Foreign Secretary was calculated to do this ? There was one part of the observations of the Right Ilon. Gentleman to which he would allude—it related to the church establishment in the West Indies. He hoped that those connected with it would remember they had been chosen for the benefit of the black population, and not to league with the white against them. He did nat underitand that missionaries were to be rejected, nor could they be so, because it would be the height of injustice and impOlicy so to do; it was those who had borne the brunt of the day, and lived with hilman fiends in the lowest state of degradation. To those, therefore, the praise was due for the light which dwelt, if tiny did dwell, among the black population of the %Vest India Islands. Ile eared not whe ther they were Baptists, or Wesleyan', or Calvinists, or Presby terians, or whatsoever denomination they were of; it was 'sufficient to hint that they were Christians. and nobly they had performed their duty. A time would come when the House would be called upon to inquire whether the charge. against them were true or were not ; he would not therefore anticipate the ques tion. Ile hoped the Right lion. Gentleman, when he came to make his reply, would hold out some hope to the other West India Islands similar to that which he had given to Trinidad. Mr. W. TAYLOR observed on the great difficulties which the West India proprietors had to contend with, in consequence of the extent of their lands and the numbers of their slaves; and stated, that he himself had expended on the aged and the young, in ad ministering as much as possible to their east and comfort the sum of 140,110 M. sterling during the last eight years. He tho ught there ought to be an indemnity made to those West India proprietors' . who might suffer by any alteration ; and particularly to those who reside in the islands. lie was convinced there was a liberality of sentiment among them which would make them satisfied with the proceedings which the House might think fit to adopt; and that there would be a feeling in their favour when they saw how fairly his Majesty's Ministers were acting. Mr. :MANNINO called the attention of the House to the evi denee which had been given before a Committee, by Sit E. Wil liams It stated that the slaves, during the intervals between their labours, enjoyed themselves in singing, dancing, and other 'muse merits. Ile (Mr. Manning) had in his head a letter concerning an Act which was passed at Grenada in December MM. It informed him that a privilege bad been extended to the blacks of voting for representatives. He (Mr. Manning) was not one of those who wished to postpone, to an indefinite period, the extension of ad vantages to the 'West I ilia Islands; but he still thought that the time tor so doing was not yet come, and would not come for years. He would ask, had there been shown any proofs of the existence of a productive industry ? In St. Domingo, which island had been free for twenty years, smuggling to •great extent takes place-_ i and of what article? Sugar. It was known that this island did not export annually more than ill hogsheads of sugar ; and that in many instances coffee had been given in exchange for sugar. As the owner of an estate in Trinidad, when the proposed improve- ments were to take place he would give his cordial assistance to his Majesty's Ministers; but he hoped, if mischief did ensue, that his Majesty's Ministers would come forward manfully, and give I I satisfaction to those who ha: received injury in consequence. Mr. EV.I NS said, that the most lamentable effects to the West India Islands arose from the West India proprietors denying that the Government had any authority over them. lie was convinced that the black population were in a state of moral degradatiqn far worse than any bodily evils. Ile deeply regretted that the mea sures prosed by the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, had not had a wider extent. Mr. BLAIR agreed with Mr. Baring in the views which he had submitted. He hoped that government would state the ex tent to which they intended to carry their proposed measures. Sir ROSE was of opinion that whatever substantial and per amelioration took place in the condition of the Slam should be communicated through religious instruction, rather than from political regulations. The Honourable Member referred to the re port of the :Missionaries, with a view of 'hewing the extent of improvement which in various districts had been effected through their exertions. When he said that the extinction of slavery was to be effected only by Christianity, the solution of that principle was, that, the gradual amelioration of the Slaves was alone to be wrought by the effect of the precepts of religion on their minds, which must therefore take only progressive means. Mr. W. SMITH was adverse to slavery, not on the statements of cruelty which had been brought forward, but on the principle of the effect which the state of slavery was apt to produce on the moral habits and condition of the people. In illustration of this principle he would mention the case - of this country ; for instance, in the case of Thurtell, whose fate was the just and general indig nation of the country. Such was the effect of this system of slavery, that it excited a compassion for the criminal instead of a desire to visit him with the penalty due to his guilt. The traffic of slaves excited the indignation of lion. Gentlemen, as practise) and :carried on by Algiers. But he would ask, hail not Algiers as I much right to catch &Spaniard as we had te catch a negrn ? ( Hear.) I As to :he exertions of slaves to obtain freedom it was highly credi- I table to them, for such freedom was the natural and unalienable birth-right of every man. Those permits certainly should be cont. I!imitated for whatever prnpetv they might sustain the toss of, a* leiv had the unction of the Li-gala:tire for investing it ; but this , dicfnot in any degree diminish the right of the slaves, or l essen i n their minds a desire to make every exertion for their emanOpation. I To the present measures he was ready to give every support. but thought they were of little avail if they did not Iced ultimately to complete and entire emanciestion. Sir R. WILSON sighed to know whether the proposed talons were to be extended to the Cape of Good Hope, and to t:te Isle of Mauritius. lie begg.ill leave next to refer to the 13th sec dim of the proposed Dill, which enacted that more than twenty five lashes should not he toffee' on a dare for an offeoce, at any one time. He wished to know what construction the Right Don. 1 Gentleman meant to put upon that clause ? fur as it at prearat stood it empowered a °ulster to repeat the punishment for the same offence provided be inflicted it at different tinier. Mr. WILSON deprecated the repeated discussion of this gees- don. than which nothing could be more injurious to the slave po pulation. The publication of the speeches of the lion. Members for Bramber and Weymouth had produced the very worst effects abroad ; they were in truth • pest, and only . calculated to create discontent among the slaves, and excite a spirit of alarm amongst ! I.the planters. Fur his part, he was convinced of the necessity of slaves in our sugar plantations, especially as only halt the labour I could be produced from the emancipated slaves as from the slaves, and that without overworking them. At all events, he deprecated I any precipitate interference or sudden measure of legislation ow GO I important a question. 3lr. CANNING rose to reply. It was not his intention to have again trespassed on the House, after having so long occupied their ' attention, were it not Coat he hail been appealed to by several I Hon. Members en points of information. To the first question I proposed by his lion. Friend. Sir It Wilson (if he might so call him), as to the inteation of government to extend the proposed measures to certain colonies in the East Indies, he begged to say that an intimation had been made to these colonies of the dispo- I sition and feelings entertained by the Government at home, but he was not enabled at present to lay before the House the result of any communication with these colonies (hear, bear). As to the second question relative 'tithe infliction of punishment his (31r.C.'s) intend- I ed construction certainly was that the punishment of twenty-live dashes should be only indieted once tor the same °Hence, and he thought that this was ,the sense conveyed by the words " at any ! one nine" (hear, hear). In reedy to the mon Important question which had been asked by the Hon. Member (Mr. Baring) iss to the construction which was to put upon the proposed regulations as 'to the extent of their operation, he (Mr. Canning) wished I that they might be considered rather 35 an exmnple than an experiment. fle wished that however confined might be the immediate application of these measures, they would be gennally followed and adopted by the other colonies. 'fo those . places which possessed colonial legislatures, the adoption of those measures should be strongly esmniniended, but he hoped that 1 those Legislatures would adopt them from a sense of their utility, and that no occasion would arise, in which the question of the right of this Legislature to control their opinions, should of necessity, be entertained. (Hear, hear.) He could not conelede without al -1 veiling to the sentiments which hal fallen from the Hon. Member for Taunton (31r. Baring), who, sitting on the other tide of the I House, made a speech which might be considered in fat ourof either aide. (A laugh.) The Hon. Member, whose mind did not appear to have been made tip to any distinct or definite line of conduct, ! had thought proper to censure Ministers for coining down, Session Lefler Session, with unsatisfactory statements and indecisive tnea i sures. What did the Hon. 3leniber mean by Session after Session ? has: Session was the first in which Government took the question at all into hands--• question which seemed to the hone utable Gen tlernan easy of solution, and surrounded by no difficulties : and nine months after they had taken it into hands, Minister s proposed the present measures. Yet these measures, however they might be unsatisfactory to others, were perfectly blameless in the eyes of the Honourable Member. Nay, more; be hall even gone so far as to say that they were the very measures best calculated to lead to the accomplishment of all that was hoped fur on the suhject. (Hear). This was the sentiment of the Honourable Member in one part of his speech, and in another he took the chair of • lecturer, to censure Government for the very conduct which he had before praised. (Hear.) The speech of the Hun. Gent. reminded him of those debatrts alluded to by Mr. Burke, who, by balancing between both sides of the House—by inserting here a bit of admira tion, and there a bit of censure—now a bit of applause, again a bit re invective—wove together a piece of beautifully-confuse) and strangely-contrasted composition. (A laugh, and cries of " Hear, hear.") By this tempting mode of dealing, the Honourable Member was sure to be rapturously received by the side of the House on which he was supposed to speak. We trembled as it were between both' extremes. Between those extremes there was a middle point ; and that point was the post of media tion which the government now occupied. One set of men said to the Government, " Do away with every restriction ;" an. other said, "Do nothing, leave matters as they are." Now, Go vernment had steered a middle course, and resolved to do some thing without implicit obedience to the advocates of opposite ex tremes. The Hon. Member had praised Ministers for what they had done, and censured them for what they li el not deem ; he (Mr. C.) preferred his practical panegyric to his theoretic blame. He had thought proper, in the couise of his observations, to give to govern mere the most vulgar advice. " Meet the question fairly'," said I the Hon. Gentleman. This admonition was held out to them on may the commonest subject that come before them. Now this was a question, of all others, that could not, in the words of the Hon. Gentleman himself, be met fairly, It was so surrounded by dif fieulties—it concerned interests so varied and extensive, that it re gutted the most temperate and deliberate judgment at all to touch it safely. Hatt. Gentlemen who had 'large interests in the West Indies sought to extort from him a pledee that he would go no further in legislation on this subject than the present Bill. ' I will give," said the Honourable Gentleman, •no such pledge. My - duty, and the guide of my conduct, shall be now and in future, to look to practical benefit—my horror is In abstract declarations. Such measure* as justice, moderation, and equity prompt me to recommend, I *hail not fail to attend to. I shall do nothing hastily ; but I will not be bound by any pledge or profes sion which it may be shameful to retract, or in which it may be dangerous to go forward. (Cheers.) If ever an occasion arose in which Government should proceed with atution, with hesitating and tardy steps, it is the present • when it was sought to correct and remedy a great evil coeval almost with the randition of man kind ; and when the object aimed at was no less that that of recast ing, as it were, a whole existing generation. (Loud cheers.) Tort Much timidity could not accompany us ; in such a north we should proceed with a due observance of • all the signs of the times,' if we hope fur a permanently beneficial result to the measures of ame lioration we propose. On the gruund we now stand we are, I think, secure. In that position, which, in my opinion, we have taken up with wisdom, let us continue ; and which it' we had not taken up and adhered to, the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Baring) might truly say we had acted *ith rashness." (Much cheering.) Mr. BARING explained. Leave was then granted to bring in the Bill. The other Orden of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a QL'aaTEw BEFORE Two o'Croce. NOTICE OF MOTION (THIS DAY). Mr. Mabesly—Land Tax Redemption Alta. ORDERS OF THE DAY. rootage Rates Rin—Report. Ways and Means—Committee. MINORITIES: AGAINST !LOGGING IN THE anttr—sranca 16. Allen, J. H. Lamb, Hoe. G. Robyn, G. J. A.lthorp, Vise. Lloyd, S. Jones Robinson, Sir 0. Baring, Alex. Lennard, T. B. Smith, John Barrett, S. M. Lushington, S. Smith, Robert Bennet, Hon. H. 0. Leader, W. Stanley, Lord Birch, JOS. Maberly, J. Sykes, D. ' Brydges, Sir J. Alsberly, W. L. Tierney, Rt. Hon. G. Bond, John Martin, J. Wane, J. A. Colborne, N. W. R. itionek, J. B. Western, C. C. Denison, W. J. Newport, Sir John Williams, W. Duneannon, Vise. Nitgent, Lord Wood, M. Ferguson, Sir R. C. Phillips O. ren. Wrottesley, Sir J. tinalfell, Pascoe Phillips, 0. H. jab. TELLE R S. Gurney, lludson parmll, Sir H. Hutchinson, Hn.C.H. Rice, T. S. Hume, Joseph James, W. Ridley, Sir Al. W. Hobhouse, J. C. Kennedy, T. F. Roberts, A. W. ron POSTPONING THE GRANT TOE THE CH RRRRRR D SCHOOLS or IRELAND ENTIL THE REPORT or • COW MITTEE..-MMICH 15. Althorp, Viscount James, W. Roberta, A. W ilma), R. Kennedy, J. F. Robins, G. Bennet, Hon. U.U. Leader. W. Robinson, Sir G. Barrett, S. Si. Lamb, lion. 0. Rickfonl, W. Duncannon, Via. Leonard, T. B. Stanley, Lord Davies, T. H. hlacdonald, Jas. Tierney, Rt. Hon. G. Denison, W. J. hlonck, .1. B. Tremayne, J. H. Ferguson, Sir R. C. Martin, J. Western. C. C. Grosvenor, lien. Newport, Rt. Hon. Whitbread, S. C. Guise, Sir W. Sir J. Williams, W. Gordon, R. Parnell, Sir 11. Wrottesley, Sir J. Ilutchinson,Hn.C.ll. Phillips, G. TELLER. Hume Jos. Ridley, Sir M. W. Rice, T. S. llobbiiiree, J. C. ON MR. NARERLY'S MOTION FOR TRANSFERRING THE TAX FROM DEER TO MALT-MARCII lA. Anson, Hop. (I. Leader, W. Syke., I). Bright, H. Lennart, T. B. Smith, W. Butterworth, J. Moberly, W. L. Smith, J. Bennet, Hun. 11. O. Martin, J. Tierney, Rt. Hon. 0. Bernal, R. Mackintosh, Sir J. Williams, W. Barrett, S. M. Nugent, Lord Whitbread, S. C. Denison, J. Newport, Sir J. Wood, M. Ferguson, Sir R. C. Hobart., (l. TELLERS. Hobhouse, J. C. Hobart., A. W. Hume, J. Hutchinson, Ha-C.ll.lore, T. S. Moberly, John On Tuesday week Mr. Tindal, the English Barrister, wu elected Member for the burgh of IVigtown.--Edinbargh Star. Mr. BAT TIE It.-•-11 is said that the late extraordinary, proceedings in the lUth Hunan!: are to be made the subject of a notice in Parliament. It excites great curiosity among the army to know whether the aristocratical regiment in question arc really to be allowed to recruit among themselves, and, according to the phrase attributed to ',hem by Mr. Battier, " to bully the people at the Horse Guards."—Erruing Polar. CHILE fAIAN. 1/HE FOURTH HALF-YEARLY DIVIDEND .1 on the above LOAN, which becomes due on the 31st inst. will be paid by Messrs. Hu!lett, Brothers, and Co., at their Counting.tfouse, No. itr2, Leftdenhpil-sweet, on that and every succe.vling day, Sundays excepted, between the boors of Ten and Two o'clock. The Dividend Irarrants, with a List thereof in numerical order, must be left fur examina.ion one day previous to the application fur payment. Leaden, March 10, 11124. PRICES OF BRITISH Bank Stock 3 per Cent. Reduced. A per Cent. Cutts. 934 It if *4 per Cent. 4 pet Cent. New 4 per- Cent. ton Load( Annuities. Imperial 3 per Cents. Bank for Account Cons. for Act. 911 3 4 3 India Stock rrocht, YES:TER DA Y. India Bonds, 7.3 72 pr. India for Account, South Sea Stock. South Sea Old Annuities South Sea Sew Annuities La. Bills, 1,0001. 48 AO 49 Ditto, 3001. 48 a 19 pe. Dit.o, Small, 48 30 411 Indotsed ditto PRICES OF PORliltiN Austrian Scrip, 121 A 2A IA 21 2 Ditto for Account e t t t 2, 1 t Ditto paid in fun, I;hllian bd. I Ditto (orAce. 811 I Colombian Bonds, Ml Do. for Acct. Di Danish Bonds, 991 Ditto Marks Banc, 91/4 Greek scrip, lfi pr. Mexican Scrip. Gi 7 ci Do. for Ac. 7 6 7 Neapolitan lids. 8S 9 Ditto for Account Portuguese Bonds Ditto :scrip 4 pr. Prussian Bonds, 981 Ditto Bonds (1922) 9 1 1 1 Ditto for Account Peruvian Scrip. Lottery Tickets, 211. 11.. ITO(;KS YESTERDAY. Russian lads. 94} da a 4 a Russian for Acct. Sit 41 Russian Inscription Exchange per Tubb Ditto !Nets Stock (Daring) Ditto (Salim's) Spanish Cons. 20} a 20 191 2?) 19 Diuu 4 for Acct. 201 111 120} lit Ditto 170 it 253 lids. Ditto 05 do. Di per Cts. (1023) 174 I a Ditto for Aect. 171 17 a 17 Anflo Mex. Dim; to pr. United Ditto Vimeh Remo, 100 E 10If Do. Ex. 254 45e. 50e. Do. Scrip 134 a ex. di,. Ditto for Acct. 134 pr. ex. dir. COURSE OF EXCHAN6k YESTEItDAY. Amsterdam - C. F. 12 9 Leghorn - - Ditto, at sight . 11 17 Aienok . - Rotterdam . 12 1 Venice . Antwerp - - 12 11. Malta - Baniburgh . 37 4 Naples . Alton* - - 37 4 Paiermo Paris, 3 days' sight 23 f,O l Lisbon Ditto . 251;0 Oporto . Bourdeaux . 25 fitul Rio Janeiro Berlin . - 7 10 Bahia Frankfort-on-the-Main 153,1 Dublin Petersburgh - 9 Cork Vienna . . 10 9 Trieste . - 10 9 1:. s. d. Madrid - 36 Portugal Gold in coin 0 0 0 Cadiz . - 351 Foreign Gold in bars 3 17 6 Bilboa . - 35; , New Doubloons 0 0 0 Barcelona 33 New Dollars 0 4 91 Seville - - 331 . bil:er in bars 0U U Gibraltar - . 301 i i I MI ai MI . 41 641 BULLION. 31.111..5. Amity En--1 French, 3 liamburgh, and I Holland. Du . K- 2 Uottenburgh, aid 2 Hamburgh. Elie t ritioh Skews. TREAT RE ROYAL, DRURY-LANE. .• This Evening, WEDNESDAY, Marc* 17, A GRANO PERFORM ANt•E OF ANCIENT AND MODERN MUSIC. UMUSR TSR mascrios or da. horde& PART I. A GRAND SELECTION from the Works of HANDEL, tic. de. Between the first and second Parts Solo, Violin, Mr. Mori (May seder); Recd. ed Aria, Miss Paton. PART 11. (For the that Issue In this Country). A SACRED ORATORIO, entitled JERCSALLM DELIVERED, translated front the tsetinan; the Music b r the Abbe Stadler, Director of Music to the Emperor of Austria. Between the second and third Parts ' From the general approbittluet with which it was received 01) rriday ISA (the greatest apylume hating attended every Interval of the Per muses). Signor Viuwrcati will perform a FAistasia oil the Luillb;Ardu Mandolin; Duet, Mims M. Tree and Mr. Brahmin (Heehaw). FART A GRAND MISCELLANEOUS ACT, which will commence with (for the third time in this Country) the celebrated LP. ERTCRE tai DER niEvstiturz. lu the course of this Part will he performed (first time this Season) the sPrlftd Descriptive Chori:•, comp...ell by Beethoven, entitled The CALM of the SEA and the RISIN‘i BREEZE. Principal Performers—Mrs. Salmon, Mhos Ilmuuall, and. Miss Paton— Miss stephens ' Salm Melville, and Miss M. Tree; Mr. Brahma, Mr. T. Cooke. Mr. Hawes t Master Lunghurst, and Mr. irwPio—Mr. T. Welsh nod Mr. Philhps. The Grand Performance on Friday the 111th: will take rime it tint Theatre Royal. Covent Girded. NEW THEATRE ROYAL. DRURY-LANE. To-murrow Keening. THURSDAY, March In, will be peeturmed M ‘C Macbeth, Mr. Kean i Alacdutt Mr. wit rack- Hecate, Mr. O. Smith Lady Macbeth, Mn,. Bunn. After which, tiI.ANLsH GALLANTS. Tu conducts with the le/amt.( D 4 .1r AS A POST, OM Friday there will be no therformamee. THEATRE ROYAL, COVENT-GARPRN. To4nortow Evening, THURSDAY. Mardi tB . will be pethwnied PRIDE SHALL HAVE A PALL. Count Venters, Yr. W. Vat ren ; seetbe... Mr. Ireeneas . Lorenz° , Mr. Ceoper. Victoria. Mtge Paton . ; Leonora. re. To conclude with the Barletta of Miri.~S. On Friday, A Grind Mtl,llCif Mr. Dothan. under the direction of KING'S THEATRE, OPERA CONCERT ROOM, HAYMARKET, (Now beautifully arranged as a Theatre. with Ihnces, Pk, and Gallery.) Mr. I). F. WALKER respectfully annonuce:,his ASTRONOMIUAL c LEruits-s on the NEW EIDOUILANION, or LARGE TRANS PARENT ORRERY. In addition to its usual splendor, he pismoses much new lad. Interesting matter the detuoinitration of variou• rmbiesus. which hitherto have nut been introduced publicly. To be repeated THIS EVENING', WEDNESDAY, and to continue each Wednesday in Lent. Duxes, 45.: Upper ditto do.: Gal lery. Is. Dours to open at Seven; Lecture to b ' estin at hali-pal4, and to end at Ten. Tickets and Place* to be had of Mr. Sealtin. at the Opera Ilux-ottlee, in the Quadrant. THEATRE ROYAL, ENGLISH OPERA HOUSE. On Wednesdays and Fridays In Lent. LECTURE on ASTRONOMY and the PHENOMENA of the HEAVENS and of the EARTH. The Lecture to be delivered by Mr. Bartley. THIS EVININD. To begin at Ne% eu ; and conclude at Ten. Tickets of Adninsum for 111MIllos to be had on moderate terms at the Wardle,. THEATRE ROYAL ENGLISH OPERA HOUSE. MR. MATI:EWS AT FIUME! On THURSDAY, March 2:1. DOC With his ANNUAL LECTURE on PECULIARITIES, CHARACTER, and MANNERS: In nneutltely new EinemLament, *stilled A TRIP TO AMERICA. Tito Buz °Moo lo upon from Teo lour Daily. THEATRE ROYAL, HAYMARKkT. RV PIIIIIII.IONT u/ 71111 . Lea, cafisfatMLAin. WEDNEsIi.tI S AND FRIDAYS DURING LIM'. Mr.TIiELW'ALL's ORATORICAL and CRITICAL LECTURES on sliAlisPF:Alik: and the IYRAMA, This Evening, WEDNESDAY, March 17, PRELIMINARY RECITATIONS, with Criticiszus, from Burns, Churchill, and Darwin. LECTCIIE.—On Shakspeare's HENRY IV, and HENRY V. and on the Characters of 110TsPUR and PALSTAEF in particular; with Stricture.' on recent and contemporary Actors—Holman, Kean, Wal lin*, be.; Henderson, Cook, Downes, ae. itieciTATinNs—p e ct of the First Scene between the Prince and Falsaue—paland's Ragged Itellothlit—Henry the Fitch before Hargrur, Re. After which Iby particular desire) will be repeated, with Preliminary Obiemations, historical and rhetorical, ANTunrs ORATION: Doors open at Seven. Begin at Half-past Seven. Boxes sa, Sub,wrlptlon for Ten Ticket.; dl. Ss.; Pit 3.., Subscrip tion for 'fen Tickets, IL Is.; Gallery 4.. SubseMptioas received and Tickets to be procured of Mr. Mien. Bond-street; Mr. hems, Pall-Mall; Mr Ridgway, Piccadilly{ Mr. lialawyn, Newt/Me-street; Mewrs. Bowden' and herby, and Sr. Reynolds, Oxford-street; Mr. betitunt, Strand ; at Boyles Conti tinkle Office, 1, Leicester square; at the Box °Mee of the Theatre; and of the Lecturer, North Brixton Cottage, where Private liwtruethnis continue to be given, in cases of Impediment, and lu the Elocution of the Pulpit, kW sald Senate. The House has been well aired, and large gres will be kept In the lobbies. The Barnes PRESS commenced publishing yesterday morning at Hall-past Flit o'clock. LONDON, WEDNESDAY, AIARoi 17, 1824. A letter from Madrid in the Etude of M3ntlay, informs us, that Ferdinand has re-established the Junta of 1815, for organizing a plan of public instruction. The members of this Junta are of course perfectly well-disposed towards the absolute Monarch, and their labours will be particularly directed to the regulation of the Universities and Colleges of the Peninsula, which, if possible, will be so framed as to prevent the spread of liberal and enlightened doctrines. The same papers speaks of the state to which Vera Cruz has been reduced ; and observes, that a force of 8,000 men would be though to put down the Constitutionalists of Mexico. We copy the following articles from the if unitenr and Etude:— [From the Mon Ito& of Sunday, Itlarch 141 Nothing official ut r public nature. Ni on-Official Part.] IWe lIEFORT, MARCH 8. The Lyonnaise sloop, commanded by Lieutenant Hamon, an chored yesterday in the roads of the 131 e 01 Aix, on her mum I trout Senegal. On the day that she left that colony, the Ilcire cor•ette, the brig, and the Breesane gun-boat, had tuv.red dime. Three were to proceed a few dar afterwards to the lake Game, the central station of the squadron kept on the extrema ceast of Africa to retreat. the slave trade. From the Etuilc. dated Monday. March 15.} MADII9, MANCH 4. The King has signed a decree re-establishing the Junta erea , .,l in 11:15, to draw up a general pl an o f public uormetion. l'hi , Junta was engaged in the Organisation of the Universities and Colleges, when its labours were interrupted by the molt in Ilt-'lO. The 'Government has received chapatti:es fear the dated January 11. The day before these had arrived in the port, thsee armed sloops sod a Catalonian brigantine, which had been sent to the kJ- ftla:.. quilla, a league from it. Juan de 1:1Joa. These vessels had lita— ed all the ammunition they had on board, and brought back son.e .passengers who had taken refuge in pun Sr. Juan. Others *ill come on board the Maria am: Isabella corvette. These passenger , . must of them merchants, girt a frightful de. acription of the state to which Vara Cruz, is reduced. There ts nut a house into which same bombe have nut Some mercharts have also arrived front the United States, wi.. !had settled in Mexico. and whom the intestine ahoeliskins have in. dated to leave it. They unantrintisly state, that all the respect able inhabitants are so weary of the revolutionary troutlos, that a cape of 8,0 IN. Europeans would be more than sufficient to disperse 'infectious and restore the legitimate suthorit y.• P.S. There are lettern from the Fon of St. Juan d'Ulloa : they are of the 111th Decenthiir. It is stated in them that foreigners who landed at Alvarado and Tampico, on pretext of .comnt busineas, excite the 3lexican people to indepet.dence, but.tbetr de. claniations produce little effect. • It h curimts to compare these Rh:anent, with the assertion of the English Courier, •inch prcteods that all J.:mope would ::ut able to swbdue the insurgents (see the article London.) Note ut the Editor of the Doilr. Though the retreat of Santa Cruz, in Peru, appears, am far as concerned his division, to have been disastrous, and attended with great loss, we are convinced it cannot save the Royalists from ultimate defeat, or avert the liberaticu of Peru. The movement of Santa Cruz was impetultut and unsupported ; the force he pouessed, of native Peru vians, wail physically weals, and every way inferior to that opposed to him. lint though the Royalist army in this distant province wily have been successful in a single instance, it Is wholly unequal to maintaining an ascendancy by force of arms throughout Peru. Spain can afford no aid, and id Semi and Camerae will soon be pressed by superior forces, directed by all the energies of Bulirar. The great strength of the latter lay between Lima and l'isco, consisting of 6,000 Colombians, 2,000 Buenos Ayreans, and 1,000 Chilians : 2,500 of the latter were further expected, who were to leave Valparaiso on the 15th. Three thousand Colombians, from Panama, were also on their passage. Rive Aguerro, the Peruvian Chief, who had yielded to the mediation of Bolivar, had also 3,00;A armed 'Peruvians attached to him in Truxillo. Bolivar had also 2,000 men in Moquehua, under the orders of Santa Cruz, and was further supported by General Lanz4 with 1,500 men. The heroic Liberator would thus have au effective force of more than 20,000 men, directed against La Serna and Canterac, by his vigour and ex perience ; and the Spanish Viceroy and his followers taust he overwhelmed, should an armistice not immediately take place. Bolivar was prepared to push the war resolutely, and free Peru with his whole force. This is the last expiring effort of Spain for dominion in tl. New World— a desperate and a hopeless exertion, by a power who can not send a single soldier across the Atlantic. Southern America, with toe magnanimous Bolivar at its bead, has wisely leagued its forces on this occasion, and sent a con tingent to Peru, from almost every province. The cause of one is in fact the cause of all. If Spain surceede t t in Peru, she would soon extend her tyranny to Chili end Colombia, and make the La Plata feel its heavy alit's: The policy of our Government towards South America has latterly been marked by great firmness and wisdom ; ba enteringour powerful protest against an armed confederation or attack on these provinces by the Continental Powers,ao opening our ports to their flag, re baie at once ensured their safety, and virtually acknowledged their hatiotal independence. The great and last concession eten front enfeebled and jealous Spain must now soon Sollow; it will be beyond her power to refuse it much longer: it is but a name, and she must make the grant, of absolute necessity her despairing struggle in Peru will very soon close, and not an armed follower of her supremacy will the remain through the wide extent of South America. These great countries must, in the possession of freedom, rapidly in crease in wealth, in population, and in power, and present an immeasurable field for commercial intercourse with this country, to whom they will be equally bound by ties 61 gratitude and mutual interest. The great question involving the gradual amelioration and emancipation of the African race in the British Wtitt Indies was brought forward last night by Lord Bathurst In the Upper House, and Mr. Canning in the Lower. The propositions submitted by both Ministers were the same. Lord Bathurst's speech was unreplied to, except by a few passing renna_its from Lord Holland. The address of the Foreign Minister on this agitating subject produced a more extended discussion. Mr. Canning rose at six o'clock, and concluded a mot able and convincing speech by half-past seven. The measures proposed by him and the Colonial Secretary were moderate, and much below the fiery zeal of Mr. IVilberforce, Mr. Buxton, and the Abolitionists. They are formed, in fact, on the resolutions of last year. They propoie that the painful and degrading punishment of the cart-ship should no longer be applied to females in any ease; with males also that it should only be urged as an in strument of punishment, and not as a stimulus to labour : the evidence of the negroes to be received in Courts of tice, under certain regulations; and, as a means of strength ening their moral character and feelings, education to be diffused amongst them as widely as possible ; churches throughout the islands also to be generally established, and regular marriages encouraged. Another object of the pro positions made by both Ministers was, to favour the ma numissions and gradual emancipation of the Negroes a•: much as possible, bj giving them a right to the purchase 'of their own liberty and that of their immediate kindred ; securing to them also a legal right to the enjoyment of all property now possessed by them. These propositions, 11r. Canning stated, would be embodied in rn Order in Coun cil, and first tried in the colony of 'Trinidad. Instructions, Lord Bathurst stated, had gone out to St. Lucie, Flerbic-, ' and Demerara; and when communications in reply wee received from those islands, that measures conformable tit the French laws would be adopted, and an Order in Council to that effect would be drawn up anti submitted to the House. Mr. Canning, in the course of his speech, was very pointed in his allusions to the violent resolutions ne some of the Colonial Legislatures, particularly those of Ja maica: they certainly were in the irost furious spirit of exultation, and betrayed a violence that went far beyonl any real danger then existing around them. Idle menace from them to this country never coubl be ;•ttentled with any good effect. In the progress of his eloquent spreels. Mr. Canning made a most important communication to ens House, namely, that a treaty had been signed by our Minister to the United States with that country, h 7 which the mutual right of search was conceded, and the Foreign traffic in Slaves by both countrles would henyvforth be treated as an act of piracy, America having already put it on that footing. Contin sits I cheering from the House anti galleries which were crowded, attended Mr. canning's speech all through. Mr. Buxton, however, was not satisfied ; he went through a muster-roll of N•tst-India cruelties ; his speet•`t was stuffed with the " falsis term - ars." Mr. Wilbtaivroe 1.- Ili 1; fan tad Ira et) est iwy fur re. wry bin I as Nog es. hlt• Ittld ril l lON- OR the • f f ~~~~ 11