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ff r - - 7. - G 11 HOtisk OF CoMUONS. I LL .' - - -• . • Snit inquired if the 'Noble BOOM had lib" is ex plasettion ?" . Lard Cianyrtt.tV nad said he had; risen (rota the hegittuing the end the wholespeter Of the Noble sad 'Ahmed"' Lord oppunite, an far it it regarded Imuself, War a complete tissue of migrepresroWun.! Bit with respect to the Bill, as then: was' one 61,11tury (ippon.. unite nna.e for thscutsion, he. eliould thew cop sider it hi. tint, to speak his seiitimentit wore at length_ Apon the sulieet. ip The Lotto CKANCVI.I.OII observed, he had put the quertiou of recouiniAtatent, and therefore there would be more t h an Joie opportunity of discussiug the Bill. After a mutual esplanatict between the Lou CH AINCE.I.LOIL and Lord Ciaativtlitg, it well Or" iivr-,1 that the Bill should be re-eoutittittoll 4to CKVELTY TO DRUTE ANIMALS. • I.nrd Etustme. moved, "That the Bill for the Prevention of Cruelty towards Brute Animals he reed a second tine nu Ateudny next ;" and •it ordered that tilt I.utdis be smainioned accordingly. Adjourned. • Alderman Comae brought la a Bill to inrlitiantfy cretaia trusties sod 115 •eI le I oho had i sadrrrtentic omitted Is. insert their muses and plasma of %SA.- to serials works *aimed and published. Itrehl a first iliac, and iwdered to lit read a aerosol lieu. t....111•11..•r. The Irish CuatutiesiJnerb' Emilia! was seal a third time, soil poised. Oa the metier of Mr. Fours, the House wear into Committer an the Irish !Jeer Bill. The It. Ira* ordered to be received to-ssoirow. Xr..16:111111119011 brunght up some papers rid:nice t o the Island Navigation of Ireland. Ordered to be on the table. • Message from the llonse of Lords amounted that their Lordships had agreed to the American Trade Bill, sod se veral private Bills. Mr. dtrr.Lrsii named, That the flute for the rimithittal at the ea. Light Compsfly's pill lac exte,ololl to to-at...ti11,. seriniahr."—Agrerd to. • - Mr Timms* nett, Ann Bare entice that lie would, on e,Wethirsda, same fur a Committee to tuittire'into the Laws sespectiorg the Irish Lietllerity and the Bounties and Du tresjiaisi thereon. Mr. Hvsotasos brought up the annual Account of War Taws. from Ors at b of April,.. ens, to the Air of .ipril, ' , ma; width ware ordered to be laid on the - Falai.. Mr. HUalLll.llol‘ laid, in answer to a intestines pat by an Hon. Member, mot tile, in his plate, on a tanner'. veiling, that be had made inquiries, and fervid there bad been a let ter received (rue Mr. Cbariatilly by the Auditor of Ms Teta easy ; be won't', therefore, move, " I hat the letter mad its . inelissurr irlinald be !aid lutists the HOUR' which 111 b ar e.or.liwiti) brought tip, nnO mtierrd to be piloted. Lord Atoll Patti st.i•i, lo• wished to iitquire Prow a Noble Lord (Castlereagh) op site, whether, arrm.littg to his as • sitraarena a loaner ni ght, apm igloo had beta trimly for the • - belly of ttie late galladtlicileral Moore. othderietl, there , had been • implement offered to the ti.rt f the patio GVTlrral, lot the mein . ben ordie•faunly lint *imbed it ;humid be kimitnaed us souse of tie male hrancLelY eldch floversoneut had agreed to. Mr. 'lthawrifflabbeit to know %holier the Pr(0111:011 was hr mirk Itv't 4010 of Parliament, or to be anoint* for by the Civil List ! . • Phetcaes L raid, that was not yet deteradoe•mi; out irk war by a valet Paiiameut, tLc Hausa should bare fall nutlet Mr. Huseungt ruse, **pima to notterig move far eel , • lain pap. lb, editing kr budding .4 a • New Hospital at Yanseiuth. He said, er t the building cm last proposed, • the estimated C.11411.41u fie so,ouol but he two (vomit that the expense incurred wan O9,tsrd. Tocipleita this isrisuce, •be oared sow, " bat Mort be 144 Woo- the House, eimits of all eusarsuireatisso betvernsdre Admiralty awl the Transport Boani, ami between the Admiralty and the In spector of Navel Warts, relative to the formiag a new Hospital at Yarmouth." \fr. Bonier: Wrap said, that Hie isirroilarlis toe eapeuse bad been occasiorieil by s deviation trona the . ..riginal piton et the suggestion of the transport /wed. He *ad nu *Wye tion btrubelf to ther itrinluetunt al the pa em Ind tbrolt was a quostios fur tilt Hume, whether a necessity (bide fur the trouble and town* their podactssin could ueesslou' Mr Hon.salt mad, itutolthallanding what bad falls o haul We timnianible {motioned by still wished the papers Amalfi b proulured. • Alter • fcli soda froth Mi. Fineveat, 11r. Ativv.- *tonsil , and Mr. P.Mount, the mini. a was usgaisiid without a divisitio. Lord Met Tee moved, and übteincl leave to bring in a bill to repeal Ms Amy whiels prevent Jodie* trying rind causes is their uwa comities. LSSAGL Pbv>T III: MAJESTY. Mr. Nee rrtmry CAllO'lllO brought up :e message from Ms Majesty, informing the 'louse, lltal 1.11 4 Majesty had thooghtit right to acquaint the liouse of Commons. thet his Royal lltghuest. the Prince Regent of Portugal had applied for a loan of 600,0001., and that a tottreeltion Tans, been entered /UV , Mu jesty and his Royal by which the revenues of the island of Madeira were made subject to the payment and interest of the luau. Mr. CAIIIIING then moved, ."flint iii. Nlajes ty's gracious Message he referred to a Coinsnitree of Supply sill Friday Rest," *luck alter a few words from Mr. Punsouoy, was it•greed to. WAYS AND MEANS. Mr. Plincewat gave notice that he would, in a Committee of the whole tlouse, Oil Friday nest, submit to the !louse the Ways laud Means for the year. THIRD ittlofill't Or THE COMMITTEE ON PL'BLIC Mr. H. AIARTIN trolled the attention of the Iloose to the l'itersi Report of the Cointaittre his Public (Ohces, us doing which, alibriogh conscious lee ens doing his duty to his eossitituersts, and to the public at large, his words,. rather ttsa sulijott had been token up by souse Right Ilosts (Studenten • polite, I.r irons some more aisle quarter; but still had the satosfecomir to tbiak, that hp should eicspt that odium which scope...tsar 'reform its ge turret met svitli. • lie ousidererl . that hiss Illajoiseys .filitiistrni, or the Nutter of Conotions, could ever think that Committees were t eraplej ad only to report Phones, or llttet thelf lielpettte were to Ire antlered - to lie 8.41 the Table, ar n dead letter. It was hit olijaset ti) (oint - out whist this Core•nittre had done. and tlwa In pro:mse swebral resolutions. The Coruraittce has stated that the whole mirruil -ataduat of pension* hod immures , is lintovenl. ; .in:l the finesse must he aware (liar there erre a variety of offset", of which they could get no re t4init, ...sets:Marty thirst of the I)uchy of !micro ter. Tisk was the substance of the Report, and be did not mean to my dolt the sum orfuld be imme diately greatly diniinishod ; Inn -when tlwy consi dered the setesit of mention, the inerettse of pub lic burdens, and oft lie public debt; se hen thecae' so great a Wm its that thus etortided, he trnshol t'te Home world eke the toeessity of rigormin• stg trencliment% lie did not mean to contend that ;T: -77 - Om 'thole bribil expels* wee unnecessary, of Otot one-half of it was unties: meaty. He was perfectly ready to admit., that that punt of it which ,was apprepriated to the use, dignity, or comforts of the Royal rurally, or to the reward of meritorious officers, Or services, was not merely necessary, hid requisite. But wiecti he considered that the whole was raised by taxes, direct UT indirect, open the public ; he was sure the House would go along with him on the expediency of making all possible retrenchments, al though none could be immediately effected—and this they were more par tiettlarly called upon from the feeling of the public mind, to shew the necessity they felt of inquiry, and their willingness to save them from additional bur thens.Wliat were the wishes of the people T Reform pructical Reform, which should be made as far as was consistent with the interests of the country, and which, Mr. Burke odd, would 'reconsidered, if denied by the House, as tyranny. Il,.rdly a session bad posed from I7tsfi to 1796, without Reports upon that subject. The good 1.e11.41 of the Com edittee of 11796, upon whet retrenchments could he aside consistently with public safety, pointed out that the officesatici places iu the tiAereht Courts of Justice winuuuted to lti,d79 ; but since that period nothing had hero done to reduce them ; but some of the offices hall been since grthted in reversion. Pathan:mut did tint appear to have paid attention to the stu'lject. Parliament bud bud enopportuui ty, they made a provision fell , retiring Judges autl Chan . .!ellors, when they might be cousidered u purchasers of these places : when from time to time the salaries of the Judges had been increased, then would have been the time to huve attended to the suggestions of the Committee ; he however benefit the labours of the present Commissioners would he attended with more sucreess that, those of the, 7rmienittee to whist he had alluded. He would mit pretend to say that what be had to peipose earl what ought to be adopted. lint that what they had suggested should be attended to. Sinecure . 'daces were thought to belong so mulch to the ('roan that they were considered by many as a sort of palladium to the constitutinu; but wherever recollected our exteoded establishments, the in creme of our army and navy, which was beyond bilk precedent, whoever sees the mitred Oh of public ref furs, and the tittle probability of thew establish ments being reduced, could weir Ilduk the influ ence of the Crewel; was on the decline. Whoever lied compared the inllueuce of the Crown in former times with the present must be convinced tlbit tlt stea of its having decreased, it had considerably ieb creased,si, mem rev had increased h n every breach of the,, ! -state ; they were the source of the corrupt influ elect: which took away vigour from our arms and energy from our couueils. He had stated the :moult of sinecure places snider two heads, unol t jectiumehle or necessary—the other questionable. 11 . 1tatever resplects the provisions fur the Royal Family, or provisions arising out of the Consolidated Fiend s would come settler the first head, must of them bring sateetioned by • Parliament. His first (drier firms to provisintis of ie questionable nature e mi t,' be the preisinres allowed to foreigie miuisters, be cause they had ineresevel to au extraowlinaty a elegy grey that it because necessary to Lupine: sit 17017 those pensions amooteuted to %len ;at present they amount to 61,860. The Hon. Gentleman tailed to the recollection of the House, Mr. Burke's plan to craifitie the amount of places stud peesious to tto,onol, hut which we. subsequently iucreutesl to itii,oool„ beyond which it was me no 'account to he *Bowed...this made inquiry moist neeerery. He next touched upon the pensions paid out of the 1i per cent. duties, to • restrict which might he held by some to be materially trenehiug upon the p•. rowdier of the Crown, but which he con tended would be obviated by au humble Address to His Majesty. TIM lion. Gentlenian then ad verted to Cie Treasury Fee Fund, to *leech the Committee had particularly pointed the eittention of the 111/111.e, because it extended it, illfleellee over PerNolllllof whom the llouse had no knowledge. ' The ;louse had never been backward in remune rating meritorious officers ; but the manlier in which the heads of public Boards were now pro vided for was highly reprehensible ; it rumbled Mi nisters to superwinsuare or grant pensions wherever they thought proper, and then there were pensions produced iii the orifilearg estimate. Another great qmstioss a-at, the selling of old storm, by the sign minuted—lee knew of no tirgnment to prove that what the !triple purchase they hal nut a right to sell, sod our of Iris resolutions would go to prevent such sales mid pensirms being so made, and timited the House would agree that they should eat Ire al lowed. The next point was pensioner guested un der the head of " allmvanee," which term was suit to be limited in the Bill of Mr. Burke; but if this head ow.• introduced merely to evade that Bill, he WWI bare the House would not suffer it to exist.— The pensions paid out of the Tiereeury Fere Fiend, the Cheinherlein's.Office, &e. which that Bill ree stricter! so 15,000, new accounted to 66,713, whiCh with those he had already eaunterated, maelersennee chin; nn-re than 99,000, being alone tspul. snore two colds' lie watered ire the whole annitellt e se cooling to the proviseon of Mr. Ilurke's 15111.-- Toe next hied to which he should advert was, that ~ einectares, the animal amount of wind, was 3710.151, in this continuation, ries eral of the: places attached to the colossi-a were 'tied, err return having been nude of them; it was therefore fair tll presume, that ilk: amount he stated was comoden ably less than the reel erne. It included all sine cure:offices, those eelating to Courts of Justice, as well as others. It wets not his intention. ist the Re solutions he intended to propose, to ;free any re gulations vupeeting such places in particular; there was MI litehletiee, however, in the Report, which never should he out of their memory; it stated tient a rt.:4lold it as always entitled to the greatest respect : but if the / person True:wing that freehold weer a sercent of the rown, when the 'teddy need 'steered, of it erased to exist, it lost the character which distinguished it firnu • presentee mot erm;let to be 11141114111 of as 1%1411 Miry h 1 the public .cosec : if circiimstinices at the time of that Replan gave such a plea Of timelessly and justice, the necessity and justice wes its no de gree diminished since; on the contrary, it was doubled from the increased expense cud amennan lased difficulties of the country. With respect to the Civil Establishment of Scotland, that tete° was c atiliect Ott I.lsould be brought under their discassimi, cud the Committee had stated .. .. Out then reversions were formerly of litllc %Our. , The pensions were twienitilly 5,9041., but had 150... , increased ?i,e1001.: this; was the more to lie ote• jetted aguilist, us with the iecrease of previous there wus so great un nicreiew of iiitluemee. With respect to the offices performed by depute in Seel bind, they amounted to the annual at . lehdiels; and whatever reasoning, and whatever remedy, op. plied to the sinecures ut Engtend, were equally co gent in their appliration to that country. Ile did not Illeell to propose any resolutiou nu the subject of those pensions, but he would suggest to the Ministry the propriety of eildressitig His Majesty, and proposing knelt weu.ures so were Ilteeabery us such With respect to !retold, it wad to more fruitful sod for pesisions mud competeut To begin with ',visions, they were limited to u cer tain amount by set of Parliament, but had already exceeded by 10001. at year, the muount reguluted Isy the act. lie understood, that they were touch in the habit of emitting cuitspensatitins, ttileverious ones had twill ;emoted since the U between the two countries ; when comptiniatioos were made, that house should cousider the cin:utastences under which they acre wade: when* persuu.left an office, which he had held during plosion*. he was not untitled to any cienpetisation. Cases certainly might occur, which would require a relaxalion of the peuciple, or * departure trine it, bat in general it was • good one, uud ought to be ininotaitted. lie would apply to conspeusetious bu Ireland the very seine remedy that be propiesed to them iu England, publicity. He would pAipasse that uo continent:nisei should be granted, with out laying upon the battle of that House lbw cirebtu stetwie alike grant. Such a regulation, in 'his opinion, wouldi furnish the.best protection spittle what were termed jobs. Ile would here advert tp a practice which obtained much in that port of tee United Kingdom, a practice which seemed to ariee out of "a wrong t oustruction of an act of Partite. treat. It was held that a ineu, after serving for a' certain time, hail • right to retire upon compeneu time a doctrine not countenanced by any act, tine jest in itself, as it would here* tendency to deprive ''the public of the se:viers of many mete at the tinie when their services would Le of most use, .when their knowledge would be most tuaturid, met be fore they had arrived at that bugs of hlr. in which their years would interfere with the discharge of their duty. Another object of his Resseutiuns, thtiefore, would be to prevent such en iieurious coesequeuce: he would endeavour to remedy it by providiug, that no person should retire upon coca peusetion witliout stating his reason fee retiring, his age, wad the amount of his services. Such ans the greitrel view he hail takes' of the subject : he had eueleevoitred to bring it into as small a compass as possible: a future period would 14 more proper for the derail of the remedy. He would therefore move," Trutt the Resoluttous should tau* lie oat the table, and that the House should agree to take theta intocousidenttion at a future clue ;" they would then have re oetiortnney of proeetcliu g to it noire minute discussiois and accurate inetstigation of the sat iject. He then read a series-of. reenhitions, re commending that certain siaiecure places should be alrolished, and that an actiimit should Lie asinuelly Laid before perlianneut. coutui ii itt A the amount and particulars of such pt stsiotis aucl allowanees MS wore granteil in the preceding year. lie moved " the Ilouaeshoield vesnive tt,elf imo a Committee of she whole Ileuse to taLe sort , cooseletation the third Report, nut that they should meet for that porpose on that .1.1 isfy. oinc: 1 0 . 'il, that much thatt'4l were due to es, II oi. iieitlermin, for bringing forward the quest there wits hardily a proposition 'Mao taiaerl in the ltesolutions, winch did not inert his (.lr.T.'s) concurrence. The Report of the Commit tee, upon the subject of Sinecure places. was consi derably mitigated. There wan a multitude of sine cure offiers--many•ita the West ladies.—unilsy, the prisiciples of which were log. so that they might, without any iiiconvenietiee, be removed. Although he agreed with the Hon. Gent. in general, still he ensieidered some parts of his statement lam-curiae. Ile (Mr. I'.) had stated liefere that a considerable number of inacenracies existed in the first Report. which the Committee had since endeavoured to correct. The Hots. Geistleinim had stated the whole amount at about one million mid a half; but he (Mr. T.) estimated it at about 1,400.0001. s.nd in that sum he included touch which the Hem Gentleman slid not seem to include; in that was to he includud 45,0001. an allows:ice to the widows of the Milltety, and tile seine to those cumweted with the navy. A sum aniouuting to 80001 . was grouted to persous high its office, smith• r•to the payment of di.patelses: ma n% all the deductions that ought to be mlde. the peewee list consisted of tuo,oool. less then his lion. Friend had stated ; there were also many pensioes likely tolexpire after some tissue; fur instance, the massy that were granted as compensatious fur offices lost by the ninon with Ireland; those gratiled to the Royal Faintly were also to be deducted, en that it did isot exceed 709,0001. Ile did not think that the whole auto of pensions tunutintesl to above half a million, hot though thus rat ed. the pensinn list was umpir e . tintiatiar large; he iherefore thought it wtse to limit the discretion of the Cystitis iu that respect. Such pensions or places us were attached to the taw courts were also taken into s:onaidenitiosi. limes inr whole. he was fnenslly to the isteusurc: he thaiught it would not be difficult to relieve Urn system, what was now in remote from it, 'we're the compeesatious in qiiestion. and he hoped it "weld be doue. The ternary was now in a situating , when the people out gf doors vise.e iu tlw habit of isequaintiug themselves with e. • detail or the pro ceedings of that /house; they were betimes int knowled4r. soul the • br.t pnlicy was to ley every thing fairy and lime stly Gefore them. Very great 'whelk inight arise Inns ter abolition of certain offices, nod 11111 ttttt g the discretion of the Crowe. Mr. Melt ris said. that he 'hail declared early that no such as pensions to 0 , 1 1 .4 .1,1. widows should be takem into consideration iu then projects of we-emboli tit. Mr. Titsiertents explained. Ms. Penceeee said, that the canted manner in which the Him. Geutleinan had stated the whole of the case, rutstlesi lien to greet credit. Ile had his (Mr. P.'s) personal thanks for his conduct ut,- on the occasion. It might naturally lie expected. that he (Mr. P.) would have brought something r ni nt.r Coo eoo-iderlitiim of the noose, ground,' i owns Ilse Ite l port to oloseli the lion. I :entlemon.'. m otion) refer.' 01. Before the iiieetoig of Parliamoato h e i ni i o u t Jostle loisit.,-If butrwelit master of tli, subject; ill.ll rince its meeting every one must he 0W0(.., to.ot he could nut dedicate much time to be informed. lye agreed in the propriety of tawny • thilegs %hick the Report suggested. Ile 'erre! .that the people aught to he oitfarmed correetiv ; loud pant a tribotte to the tooduct of Mr.. Pitt, rtiou 1.311 been uniformly advancing the enlarge „i,„„t of the. public tuforinatiodi ; the country was especially indebted to him hir tLe pluao, . perspicto.mr, and intelligible manger in whi c h Its 1 soil the moat comp:it-Ater' system of ,inane,.. I tie marred that thew was a propriety ill Iso.- litg before Parliament the *mould of the pei:- Ciohar and efillipellfilttolll4 at the close of every ye ar: he 111)ptellit , t of his suggestion with respect to the old stores, and thought it adviseable, that it should be submitted to Par lament; at the same time he dui nut 'honk it right, that every individual cat... Await" be discussed. From what discussions hail taken place, or were likely to tale place in that House, it stolid he found that ,Ministers Oinve been more dicolioniical its tin- diaposid of i h, public SUOMI. KIWI VUE41:1111ellt Itlelt. . ICI NA. Mite thUt the 110410t11111.10 OeUtlrtl.4ll %. 01 , , ,,, confers that not . . - .ling could by none iru y cio notooical, than the oliopodia of the prim ipi, of i t upei•atimoition. It was tocessory to p.i•- veut these, who were debilitated by scr, from ea.:- hoeing iii places, and cremating II necessity fw the totoltiplieam.4l Or the. Officers empl o y..t. Th e 4, purtusent over which he rtitim.ff pit astit.4l. a n d : e s , that which related to Comb. 44' Justict.anigfa like wise become the subjeeis of rid'oriiito 1111 l . ild: di I out kilo*, however, *Wilier the lion. Gentleutsv, iii - case lie nuerehdad m poocutitig the adoptimi of his resulutiosis, intended to proceed any •farther in the course of that sermon ; perhaos. wiihtint any isitanivettirnee to the runic, it might reinrin over for mode Our, audit the Executive Covello anent had tried what could he dupe by dray if re aulation. It as possible that the exteliturut inig t d b se viate the necessity of city legisl.dive Mterferenee. ll' had sLatedl so mach. that the iloa.. Gesolduisii migtht Cosner *bac a considerable leugth he t.., i prepared to go stills him, and h a w us..ny of h, pfloci og rg Ise sons willing to aekisowledge; at the same tiNte lie would submit, whether it ear' mot better tikabstain from ally adobes... wi lust fi.r some the .'` %Video the °ppm %unity fur the more dr tailed consiNaatiou arrived, h.: wont i feel it hi, duty to cotsi'Aer it nonsuch, , anal he woolillev, Ina vote atodiordis;‘ to cosmic-, ce nod cotivictise .- Lord WARY 1 NT" "id* that he concurred in all with h 9 Hen. Elias& lie would sty but a very few words, as the c.Niilid. Mamer lie w hich th e Right 11.11. t.,.ltiettlAU‘ 4.1t1 Met the mot ion. net. dered but it very few ma Viliiil- Lookilig td t t oe eirtum-tance of the partictiNe in'ttaet„i°"" "' th e Thi r d It -port, h e avo id h aw , : ‘hougiot better ..f the . Right lien. Gentleiniiit had tin.Ne it into his e"- sisrleration : it the ,ante time he t.. 1.0 his I-Jiin. Friend, d acted fairly to and ..:td a i j u A 'ilottte Si' that diligence isod temper ellicii was best .'"lLl et Iltte L te promote die objeet of reform.• it had b. "s!' " I 'll stated, that no material saving could maul. • to the public from the measure, when ha tone ' le t", that the whole sphere of the emicusg to wilt: ' it was directed', was not above one tifty-sccond as ." of the expenditure of the cnuatrv; slid litter racking all the deductions that should be scale, 11 .4 to above ewe eightieth. He saw little reason to expect that it would produce any sersible uni terial staving, but did he state this to lessen the importance of the measure? No, the principle of iariportimee which it continued. was. that any sum granted, which was not necessary to the ends of public utility, was a public injury, and that any intim-nee added to the Crown, which was not sir ceswiry to the welfare of the people, was also a piddle evil. Nine hundred thousand pounds a-year were granted to services not performing, hut mutually i•erformed. They ought to considev, whether. and to what extent, smeeures were the best mode of rewarding public services. His lion. Friend haul not proposed any plan for doing away sinecures altogether; he knew that if he did, he must TwoNr4e softie sul.boitute, nnd iii all probe. bilit the substitute would he less ecotionlicul and route ii.jorious. lie was sieistied with limiting the amount of the emolitineats, without wholly de stroyiag the syittetio. lye (Lord Henry Petty) wits coutivlent his llon. Friend did tint torso to hurry hie motion through the House, but still he hoped. that utile,* some circumstance arose not then to be foreseen. hr would not think of deferring it to the next Session of Paths:neat. There was lint odie topic more upon which he sie,old touch, which was the 41 per Cent. Duty am/Scotch Pension List ; it was truly ,with, that they had inc teased to double, perhaps . treble. their original arnoitot : be thought that those surpluses should he apirlied ns discharge the arrears of the Civil List. The Resolutious lied his. full concurrence : they ctn.- tonewol no new principle, no novel abstract throv, bat weld neon old principles, and a lisle which the %Wont of Perliainent 100 l alreioly chalked unt. Mr. Rout sphered with his Right Roo. Frseisd, that it might be le tt to the Executive Goverioneet until next scission. Porleatuent, by ciiiniug to that Pdedolof which the Hon. Gentlemen propossd, would give a sulliiiient pledge of retie; on it. if net:rows'. at that petted. ‘l'ith respect to pea.. sinus, there were many inaccuracies in the state metric A r 'atom of his own was represented at louring got an employMent of tweets -four thou olio' pounds a...) tar, when the fact was, it amounted but to 411.5 t. Tots aas all he would say nom, the novo, until they were in Committee, wheu the dread would come properly before them. 11r. Comment( aid out all Mr. Pitt's relations, men, women, wed childreu. weie provided wads plod** aud isenseens. Mr. Eton': Len said, that irstiiili money would w not he cute. to thr nation: utie 'lmo saved would oat be otoueto in :1 pecoutnry point of vise, when compared with the whole expense to which the country was subject ; lint Ini:f a million saved i . 3 parr, afar way naught be a greet deal, sod bt pno , . di:dive of e reat gond. 'File preen:idea Mr. Burke e 13.11 sets forth, that it said not iti•wr directed to eta. nomy than the independence 0., Pidthatostit; mu ob ject thwohnighhtc°thwaltnurtetutneedirrtintlig,t p li nrlie rtur se u r r i v ie t e: liit; 7.1 r "*.^, __ - H of to Wt Ot ce en of try YJ F F F V F F