The British Press; or, Morning Literary Advertiser. — London, England, 1824-07-24 00:00:00

EAST INDIA HOUSE. !Spain; for if the book were named in the Index it calla peas ---matim— throughout the kingdom. Not so, however, in India, acosedine to Yes'cede, A Special General Court of Proprietors was held at ; the Notation of Mr. Adam. The wise Ring of Portugal Meted a the Dot undo m ime , pursuant to notice, Me the purpt se of re-. similar order—no matter what became of the governed ; the govern si . pang' the further consideration of the state of the press in India. , non dotted as they thought proper. Kings Ferdinand and John The minutes Of the forager l'ourt being read, only contacatat the objectionable books, but Mr. Adam, nut only The Chairman stated, that this meeting was called at the request ! made a licence necessary to circulate books, but he rend ere d t h e of nine proprietors. fur the purpose of considering the state tat the ' person SO circulating books liable to the summary sentence of two ems , in India, and the banishment of the editors of the Calcutta imagistrates. In reality, he exceeded the bigurty of Ferdinand, N o ma/ • the ignorance of John, and the absurdity of the Pope. It was . ; puss.He M E reprieved his unfeigned regret, that so important a said, however, with reference to the natives of India, that they weal as the press of India, whether well or ill conducted should were very ignorant; if that were the new, the sooner they were en-1 be meted as it had been at the former Coen. lie regretted that lightened the better : and what fi tter agent to effect that object, for information was so feeble supported, and that those than a free press ? It Ilt i• not, perhaps, well kn ow n, that news-, the mot ion gestleman in office bad refused to supply it. There must be some- , papers existed in India since we possessed it ; and at the mat of , thing rotten beneath, when information was refused. The Directors every chief there were news-writers from all those powers in amity admitted that an act of force was committed, and why refuse in- ! with him, who coniniunicated to their employers all that passed. , formation as to the causes that lead to it ? Now, at least there was ; This fact deserved publicity, and with that view he mentioned it. i no party feeling, no irritation exis ti n g as to this act, and why shim j In Calcutta there were no less than six newspapers published, in a fair and lull investigation ? The English public revered the . the Vernacular tongue, each advocating as different views and ' p u blic press as the great bulwark of their liberties, and that was , principles as our newspapers here. Did any evil result from that ? ; ne eded by the conduct of the authorities in India. The Directors' l'he very reverse. The people in India had become a reading hen had the care of millions in Indic, and they were hound to see people, and the information thus obtained would make them vir. that something like justice was done. With respect to the Meow-. mous and happy. Why then restrict the means of moral and in tof Mr. Buckingham, severe as it was, it was nothing to the tellectual improvement, through the instrumentality of a free uestion of the freedom of the press in India. Had a Press? Vet 31r. Adam hail not only restricted publications, but Gentleman who spoke at the last meeting been now pre. actually put down one, having for its object to my down the eme he would have felt it his duty to notice his statement of the , practice of botning women in India, an object so des, to the free, law, which was rather a nth-statement of it than any 'Meet 1 press of England. He was unwilling to go into detail, and he else. However,: he would now demise that subject, with one , hoped the subject would be discussed from week to week, until to sit within every information was received, relative to the condition of the observable, which was, how came Mr. Impey the her Plitt he (Mr. Hume) recollected, that the quo of Mr. pat* of India. Let it not be thought that the proprietors could Jatilmeet e t sitting within the bar, on a Mimes occasion, occupied no not meet fur this purpose—lire he assured them they could, less than three days' discussion. Ile (Mr. Hume) of course ex- whether the Directors wished it or not. A adds number of petted no answer at present to this r mark. Ile regretted that all Proprietors could ax a notice at the Royal Exchange, and inquiry relative to the Indian community was denied, and that the I call a meeting —or else, they would loose their charter. The people of England were kept in the dark upon that subject ; and , Honnurable Proprietor then proceeded to notice the mal. whether Mr. Buckingham was banishc e or Mr. Arnott doomed to' administration of the laws in India, end eontended that the destruction, were only threads to the clue which was now left them provisions of the 13th (ho. 111. aid 33d Geo. 111. were violated to unravel. He did nut look to the Court of Directors merely as by Mr. Adam, in his conduct toward, Mr. Buckingham. In chartered merchants, but as persons becoming; from traders, hove- j reality, the waole of Mr. Adam's conduct towards Mr. Bucking reigns—from looking to individual intern:a, to despotic , ham was muel and tyrannical in the extreme. Every man but the Sovereigns ruri e n r i s t u es p v i er millions of people. The state of India had Englishman could beard the Directors, and could remain in India, altogether rimmed side Englishmen first went there, and Eng* , I unless by law he was obliged to leave it: and was a system like this Lisboa there lad ass dinged. By the last charter, the bid not only to be justified, but to be contisued for all time to come ? Geo. 111., the India Company was bound to provide for the ann. Mr. Adam should have recollected the state of the province of fort sod happiness of the imilisn people, to promote their know- Katie, mainly influenced by the oppreations practiced en the ledge, end Improve their sell rue habits. Such objects were, how- peopl, who were denied all chance of complaint. Had a free VW% 110 t attended to, end leaking to the general feelings of man, i press existed there the cries of the people would have been heard, he &mad the governed were always subject to the governors, and • and the Pro-Consul have been brought to justice. The object of that men, unless checked, would always have an eye to their indi. the India Company should be to substitute light for darkness, and ridual interest. On this store we had not done Aft( duty, and he intelligence for the ignorance which prevailed in Intha. The lion. was sot;t to say, II ..t the refusal cf his lion. Friend's motion was , Proprietor then moved for the production of all papers andminutes anoint humanity, and geed feeling, sail all nand policy. Our Bret , issued by the dif f erent Presidencies of Calcutta, Bombay, and object should he, to have good governoient in India, and that never , Madras. relative to the regulation of the India Press. could be, while the selfish IC:clings of t h an in power were unres- , Mr. R. JAC KSON wished to know what course the Court of Di trained. Whence that was the restraint to come from ? From 1 rectors here had taken relative to withdrawing the licence from Eneiarel, boasting ins superiority, not because of this or that-mot • Mr. Buckingham ? become of the Trial by Jury, or the House of Commons, fur with. I The CHAT a MAN said, there was no objection; and the letter of out the report of the proceedings there, there would be the greatest !the Company to the Governor of Bengal, approvitig their conduct tyranny. Every day rift IS were making even in this country lin withdrawing the licence from 31r. Buckingham, was read. against the freedom of the Press by those in power, and al i Mr. Helix begged to ask if that were the only letter on this we had not a free Press to bring matters home to the , subject? drop of every man, every specks of injustice would be The Ciretna me —The only letter. committed. If this were the ease in Engle:id, what inuo it Mr. R. JACKSON said, that he yielded to no man in veneration MR be in India, where poled was absolute, and where to talk of, fur the publi: press. but he thought the Court of Directors would responsibility was quite wile. Where responsibility was widely di. i have neglected their duty if they had not acted as they had done Tided it was almost nugatory . and if it were so in England, or in ; with respect to Mr. Buckingham. Ile knew nothing of Mr. Buck. the various Gayer:intents of Europe., what must it not be is India? • ingham, and had not the least conception of his person until The Pro-Consuls of Route never enjoyed such power as the Gower. I within a few minutes. From all he heard he believed him to be an noes ot her denent provinces in India. The question then cement I satiable and respectable nun , but this bad little to do with the this,shoald such a power becootinueel ? orcould it be, with safety to great question then before them fur consideretion. There sere ourselves, or with happiness to the people of India ? He besought Indy arts of Parliament r.gvilating the terms in which persons attention toa pamphlet addressed to an Hon. Bart. (Sir C. Forbes) 'rem allowed to reside in India, and all persons found there with tm if awn were to be convinced as to the value of a free press, out • lawful licence were deemed and held to be guilty of a high he thoeght it would nenvince them. Ile said, if any man here op. crime and roiseierneanor. The course pursued towards Mr. Ilue.k. posed a free press, let him say so; if no one wished to have a free Ingham was that which was authorised by those Ats of Parliament, rem, then let the reasons against a free press in India be ex. and therefore undeserving the censure heaped on Mr. Adam. Up potted. Every one seemed friendly to the diffusion of knowledge, to a certain time Mr. Buckingham's situation was different from nod what way was there of doing it, equal to the agency of the that of Mr—emote, inasmuch as Mr. Arnott had no licence; but press ? He e 'shed a gentleman were present, whom he should call in his case, it would be now unbecoming to do more titan mention the Twenty-F.lth Director, because he (Mr. Hume) expected to be the distinction. If the strict law were relied on against Mr. Adam, able coca:wince hint, that he took a narrow view of this great yore_ why not against Mr. Buckingham, who obviously changed his tine The diffesion of religious knowledge was promoted by purpose from being a free mariner, and had become the Editor of worst tendril:nen who opposed the freedom of the press in other the Culetinit Joveitol. The licence was not applied to the use for ]slam., Asir our religion could be propagated in India, without the which it was greeted ; and he had no hesitation in saying, that if sew of a free press. In fact, let gentlemen talk as they might, he were in the Government of India at the time, be would not have Ifelia one individual voted or acted against the good, the tom- entered into a correspondence with Mr. Buckingham, but judgene fan, and the happiness of the people of India, he was answers- his conduct dangerous to India, would have directly ordered him to Ms foe it to his Cud. This was no small question, take it in any England. (Hear, hear.) The Governor of Bengal had a right by way they would. He found many . of the opponents of inquiry law to act as he had done ; and the next question was, was duo bon were subscribers to Bible Sweetie* in India ; and he now right wisely exercised ? lie ( Mr. Jackson) thought it was most tilled upon them to say, whether they were sincere or rot in their Jowly exercised. The law under which the Gowns' of Hempel MA for the diffision of Christian knowledge? If they restricted acted, was, let it not be forgotten, the law of England I and that law de freedom of the press, they could not be sincere ; such was his or those lawn under which Empire was consolidated and the people id movie ion. It was add, there was no public in India; what, happy, ought not to be accused of harshness and severity, ceof an as psblic! When was that discovery made? When loyal ad. unfitness to promote the well being of society. In October, 181 e, theses and loyalty loans were got up ? When Bible Societies, Mr. Buckingham launched the Carlotta J.taertul, having pre ad School Societies, and different other societies were established ? v' noly brought up two other papers for the sum of teUtlel., and 1(0. to. But suppose there were not, *by put down a free prey if 31r. Buckingham had been guided by the regulations of the keakutta, and .mt at Madras or Bombay ? \Could the gallant Marquis of Haannip, he might leave still remained in India. No' area (SirJohu Italcoln ) say there was nu public in India ? man thought more highly of Lord Hidings than he did, and he Sir J. 51m.coest—An European public I said there raiStasi.— soot hoped that good humour would be restored at both sides, tot Is /Say other way. and all unite in ittsanictlzt him that tribute of respect sod gni- I Mt. noise .— Very well. he would take it an. But in reference , titude, to which Ms service, were amply entitled. W hat ho the conduct of Mr. Adam tow ar d s Mi r . B uc ki ng h am , h e did i was the conduct o 3lr. Buckingham upon the appoint ment Oa view Mr. B. AS 3lr. Buckingh am . but as tac champion id a free I ot3lr. Elliott to the Presidency of Benbay ? Why, he announced rMr. Adam received ionic ephemer a l astulatmil, unworthy that the account of such appointment was sent to his paper in • who those w pallatai it, and di s c re dit a bl e to him alto received it. letter with a black border. An act offensive in any plac e , an d par a petty dealings meld not cover acts of PO tyrannous a nature titularly soon the occasion he had just alluded to, being in fact sh theoepreatimed by .31r. Adam. Many in England i :re crushed characterised as a calamity. Mr. Buckingham would never have by the reigning powers when no free press existed, now, scarcely given 3,000% for two newspapers if he were net previously informed a ineividual could suffer improperly without i:s appearing boron: of the et:mistier. under which ;he press was to be guided. 31r. the public. In India, within a press, there would be nothing but BuckinfCern professed his gratitude for the revised measure. o f tyranny ; anti there was nothing but tyranny there. He begged to Lord I goings, and promised to obey their spirit; but tbe promise oak if all letters addrcirsed to the public pre ss w e re n o t refused to be was not kept. And who could wonde r , th a t after repeated offences transmitted, unless the name of the writer were on the outside against those very regulations, he should have been sent out of den sf the letter ? He mis Post-maAter for Eve years, and cm- country ? The Honourable Proprietor proceeded to quote severed curly that .. practice never prevailed in his time. [A Proprietor nassages from the Cak.,lto .hoarse , with a view to 'hew that 3lr. emceed, '• None but Akin! letters.") Suppose oily official let. Buckingham's conduct of that paper was intended to abuse the ttepl he asked why should that }.rattier continue ? why public functiosaries—to censure public uneaseres, and alienate the Id i uncontrulled power exist in India ? Every man in In-1 natives from the English Government in India. I'e regretted the in was inertly on sufferance and at the will of others, and on what course pursued by the India Jam 80 11 , and all such papers, and he poll le was a Ate press more necessary ?In England, if I lets sure the Gentlemen now within the liar also regretted that any re is pima and authority went too far, they received a gentle of of their servants should have had any connection with it, or one; a ;oldie that was impessible, because thew was no prem. I indeed with any newspaper. All through the discussion on bso was that persons giving such hints were called trouble- I this business, 31r. Adam was personally spoken of,w he r eas It'air. tad perhaps he litmeelf might be so considered ; but, Ihe acted in his public capacity, and with the unanititous al tat setae time, he had the swills:Mon of saying, that opinions of the Honourable Men who composed the Council. lie mole who called hum trouble:name diC not den that ' and it was the they of this Court to a ff ord 31e. Adam their brat be tee useful . In India all were depe ndents ; and all Gm I, and strongest support. and at veer pronounce their decided opinion. 'ernes, whether popular or not, received votes of thanks' Ile ( 31r. Jackets -) had no objection to the discussion of the general ire, t tame who firmed the pubec, acid yet Mr. Adam, to suit I question of the liberty of the press in India, either here or chic le lerpose, said there was no public In Bengal. But Mr. where, nor did I ce f ee l di s i n clined to see if the regulations now Alta wee ineossistnit with hiniself - when he said, that in the canpre vailing might not be altered, and perhaps enlarged. But while '(lit. Backieghines banishment there WAS fl o . public, and yet, I ttiest diecumions were going forward, time character of Mr. Adaui a uc hr: t. recei a sing a fulsomel nd i an .addrese, eulogised . the independence mid should not be held up to unfeund:sl odium. The withdrawal of the Indian public. He would rot look to the present day I Mr. Buckingham's breed was couched its the precise tertrs of the te iL elow , ite th g et „ t e lse cn re jw7was would a nu pthiic e in w l n n o dia,. but em a n re . ference . to th e 1 Act of Parliament : and lookieg to all the circumstances of the dif;reat subjects and occasions , ll in ee whteh her t h an 25 ad d resses on I case , be thought the conduct of th e Governor in Council was not existence of an Indian j only justifiable, but eminently necessary. A free prom could not PrilO was denims% ted. dir. Adam admitted a was when he • exist in India with any degree of safety to our empire. Once let '" 1 nine . Prised , rem , but denied there wss a public when he was pursuing , it be allowed, and the people would have evades Register to read urn. Ile (Mr. Hemel contended, that the natives •on Saturde l y, and Carlik's blasphemy as religion on Sunday. The I I( 1et 2 14 were men of talent and industr and if unshackled from ; people of ;dui' had already the perusal of every work which could k r "fr e , _i'dr .i. ll oll,l ., l _he , _equal to airy other l people. Well, but a I polrsh or refine the human mind : they had the Spectator, the (14 ,, , F ty - l' he ene ttei tette t; yule anti dist an evil result from it ? De- 1 Taller, the works of Pope All4l Addison, and the almost immortal i nns they would ribel.M, but it was said, Kral enhgliten the In- writings of Sir \Cue Jond If politica could be safely introduced i n ~_ Le _ _ ea _ Indeed ! d id people rebel fur fon? W'heo, ,he would not object to it; but politics were unsuited to the habits rio;;TemetZlecil In no could i t be shown !het a well-governed ! and manners--aye, and to the best interests of the people of India. 0 was rise aid thateoth p l ace, he w:s fully prepared to prove. But 1 The Han. Proprietor concluded by moving, as an amertiment, e natives were as 20 to 1, and would rise' " That the Court of Proprietors approve the conduct exercised by and cot the i be des , .d: . ;coa ts of Europeans, if they were enlightened : I the Governer in Council, in withdrawing the licence which had ti,:o3.eih. it . In I . :_tashe of . the States of Americo. in Virginia par.: been granted to Mr. Buckingham, th e editor of the Caked& t ..i tti c .":__•_7 w . e i r al the proportion of 70 to I freeman, and Jahroa. Of t ,, f. .., .777, tr‘ a him 34 esotospens published in that State!l Mr. S. Dreox seconded the Amendment. se e it .t 4,ly Z ve... ,,.'" , nott:l e Government need have uo fear ; a well I Air Beeet u (MAX observed, that the people of India were go bat reqq. I rix z.r. p eople had no cause for resistance, and would , veined by law, and not ruled by a despotism as bad often been er antines„ thtio European at Directors have made different castes even , rotwously imagined, It was contended by the Learned Gentleman el.m.ilsel serr g z inuen ts cf !Lira rneir mnel ants. y an po d lit so e to far th d e isl im i i t ii go ur . y that oceres rho i j e t i e utie ly. J seetu acks .t o t :) . . f it the ob ta j t ec b t u u t f tf een eu ta i lt d 's Po heei l l y th had e ease, i tci t w el a• ty . oe . that , _ e sou as they thought proter, almost without con- I a most erroneous policy. In his t 3lr. Buckingham ' s) opinion, the lie i o .-,. , . ~rie nlasma the individuals, it was the system which ' aceeseimion of strangers , of Englishmen , in India, would prove 'ear , 'o' honed his herb to /ens . are. The eysten mak the men, sad no , one of the strongest barriers ageing the revolt or the rebellion of Gerd to o , w a ie te mt ee"ettled authority, or if •he hal he would be the Native Powers. The ts3d of the King was next relied on, but Pytt, as evil, Ir b y drinPhtertY• If Mr. Adam mill' thmtght.a free' the powers it conferred on the Oovernus-General were by no flemietor a ~r which obt put down the Defies' Ju4ii Rai!, tie means unconditional ; and the " countenance and protection" ' or e "i ce _ _ .e . e Wren in public situations. directing all; which :. enjoined to be sheen, merely meant a reciprocal ester tee, or 317. tie , !te n on private character, particularly to the cha- ' change of obedience and protection. Neat, with regard ten the re leeenge,n3 wentissued t out as a free mariner, and under talo al so (h ey or regulations 'Weer had or coed have the force o( law, until vie , t ;. i'hejta air a ire/eland. the editor of thc J tile 4 lie/ I , was not the fact in this ease. The licence of free mariner had been det ee k S t j o l . t . o "t—A roan who goes nut as a free mariner and acts much misunderstood, for as he (31r. Buckingham) considered, Mr. 'lent...li under false pretence's. the licence granted a special power to do • epecilic thing, but not hL. by true, many men are not what they Mein restricting him from doing something else. If th. t were not the meaning of the licence, very few persons, except the militwy, but io,h3ltl-4,..S.,.firioN—llat 31r. Butkirgham also received mary ad- were at the mercy of the Govetoontienend. The Loomed Geo denten had dilated on the lumpiness of the people of India ; but it' 'ff - 3 :t i t '. I .!! _• PI„.P.-.-: if Mr. I i but I always look to See jr they apply. they were so very happy, why stop their mouths, amt prevent their p eee0 1:,.; 0 4 ,, I d . Ir. Med acted towards 'Mr. Buckingham on proclaiming it to the world I. It was needless to say a word on ei fir ' ham he edged the tele ration of the ..fatin Boll) In 20 that subject, am every man who was ever in India must know the , eir e m eiel e ent • Papers, selecreu es thew conteining the mom very reverse. Now, Ls ifl the affairof 31r. Elliott, perhaps it was ii- , is'.':, ;l .. e, ". not a singes paper afforded ground ter a discreet in him (Mr. Buckineham) to have stated thereceipt of a e t . j, i .„ „.,".,: 2n: witil, in the ease of Mr. Buckingham against ktter as to Mr. Elliottthat statement otiginiced in indis. e -id, rnt ',*.,4 o, J , :dge s leenaghten pronounced an opinion, Met he detion—a failing often to be found in men of his protession. which ttbst e l y an %Pe Mad* trithoot horror 1 and yet lie. Adam would, he war sure, be admitted by nianv gentlemen behind the to nie i w , i _ ~, e er the continuance of such a paper, while he bar, who had been for a great portion of throe lives at sea. 31e. ' oo __a ex oetual (nen the shores of India, whom the breath of Buckingham then entered into a detailed explanation relative to t i.,.,l7_7 .,_ M a mcalr (mold not touch. 31r. Adam only supported the Letter of Emilia, noticed at the last meetieg of this Court ; s „,.. e e t ' oni. tot. VI that co:cello; corm:lion, a nd shielded the the better of an Old Soldier, and that relative to theatrical it e n ne e „ h e nT erf ahtheriiy. Ever one knew there was 4 Pope libel on the Bishop of Calcutta. With reference to thedistribution Is 1,, b .. ' ••,, s , rincil to grown his subjects in the Mate spirit of the Julia lit.th's prospectus, he did charge the Goyerement with t 'Nest tissa•".,..'t7 here re em in India ; not but lee (Air. Hume) having in every utanner circulated it, and dm post-free. Ileeharged r I.- - '*Penne ofe more of the acts a h !, orolinew of I the Government with gg directions to hove the nand of all ~,`1,1 • , . =, ,, ,, . .f the Pope in this Court as applicable to India. The p‘rsans writing letters to the press marked with the writer's name, I:, ditta _t t ..nt loter candeinned time translation of the Bible into sad the fact WWI beyond all cuntrautimion. The letter in which the te e , 7„ . .,!.?...ite...... terdie.g to corium it ; but in reality, ths name of the Lord Bishop of Calcutta was inooduced, had been tote :et! , ~t! an to prevent the diffusion of knowledge. It called indecent. but he Buckingham) defied any man to say tip r,,,, i i ~,"c "wee in India ; the object, the spirit, and the Pete. • there was thing offensive said of ho. Lordship . Them might be . 0 the .t, ....e nine; but f I his part lie con al never be in &Hence ' that persons, app l ynion of whose Illaltel would be offensive, but 'teed d e j ib 7 the ether t the more e, when their object Was to i that could nut u the hoed Bishop of Calcutta. The patience fr " 11 el es ' . ' l7 " I ' t i 'e rest. But the league Mahal' freedom of the tiovernmsin in reading his long letters had been dwelt on by i t: 7 . yeeio;;;lentlesetieenive.. and it happened curioudy enough. • the Learned Gentleman. but if the (livered:at chose to put the s te e! ..,.. eon prohibited the circulrion of all books not matter between him and them on the routine of fCasoll, then et• •:e. Thc d.:l;:rcr.ce, Iton era, WAS is favour of patience was tot so tore remarkable. Al'itli respect to the diet!. charged upon biro in puttingotthe hit trial for libel, and the new trial of the criminal information, the delay did not proceed from him; and Mr. Speokie told him (Mr. IluCkinghani) that the Go vernment would not follow up the information, athougb six months after, upon the arrival of ChiefJuatiee filmset, the information was handed up to him ; but the will of providence di4 not allow him time to grant Of to refuse it. 111th regard to the guarantee given by Judge Macnaghten to continue the licences already existing, ft lila all a piece of casuistry. foe it must be odd to find, that the licence was continued to Jobe hall and refused to the Cairene Joareal. lie was told that he bad repeated warnings, but he never had one specific warning. But betide that, the warning depended' on the right of the ).arty to warn ; and these rules and regulations on which the warnings took place were no law; and therefore • wanting against doing a lawful act was cone than useless. The last heard of charge against him was the remarks upon Dr. Boyce, but them remarks he (Mr. Bdekingham) contended did out notate any one of those rules sad nwlations, even if these rules and regulations were law. Ile moped the din. C11.0 , i011 of thin subject would continue. and whil e h e h a d h ea l t h and spirit he would take rare the. should. He had the welfare of the natives of India much at Leart, and he would persevere in his exertions to improve their conaltion. They might not hear him In whispers in India, but they would be obliged to hear him in *bun ders in England. (Hear, hear.) The Citat u MAW regretted that a gentleman possessing abilities like Mr. Bueltingham should not have amassed a finnune rather than be an appellant here. But with respect to the main question, he could not help appmving the conduct of Mr. Adam. Mr. Buck. ingham himself admitted lie was indiscreet ; and indiscretions in India, when attended with bad consequences. were as dangerous as if they resulted from meditation. Ile hoped after two days of lengthened tHseussion, that this Court would now allow him to put the question. (Cries of " Question Sir C. Foaaks and Captain Gowaw here rose.. The former gate way, and Captain tioWAW said, he merely rose to defend the character of • literary native who • name had been mentioned in the course of the debates—(Strong symptoms of impatience were manif.sted while the Gallant Captain was paying a tribute of applause to the various Minionaries In India.) Sir C. Coupes rose to order. If those gentlemen who express sty± Indecent haste are inclined to think that this question shall not have a full discumdlio, they are mistaken. If they wish to adjourn, I Imo nu objeciim, I alw.ll swat* fifer toy sentiments mithe 'abject . Mr. Hrmr.--AMlri shall fps& Man hour. (Cries of "Ad. journ"—" Go on.") Sir C. Foaaws contended, that' the original resolution ought ' to be supported, if the Court of Directors acted fairly by Xt. Burkititzham or the people of India. Mr. Hunk replied. The original resolution Was then put and negatived, and the amendment carried by a large oi•jority. The Court adjoinned. at 10 minutes to nine o'clock. omEw. SHERIFF'S COURT, RED I.toy.sauAnt, //insAy, JULY 23. &fare J. Beacism.s., Est., Uade► SlierV, and a Special Ju►y. SIM JAMZS ZOISSINZ, s.szostsTr. SIR GEONOT ISVRMAY, IC A Special Jury met this da► to assess damages in this case, which had excited great interest in the fashionable dreles, from the high military rank and family distinction of the parties concerned in it. The Court was crowded at an early hour. At a few mi nutes after eleven o'clock Mr. Brougham arrived, and the Jury were sworn. ?Jr. PARK opened the pleadings. This was an action brought to recover compensation In damages from the defendant for ertimh nil mmersation with tne plaintiff's wife. The damages were laid at 20,0001., and the defendant had suf , fared judgment to go by default. Mr. BIIOUGHAM-1 do not remember ever to have risen to dis. I charge my duty in a Court of Aisnee with feelings of more painful anxiety than I feel on the present occasion. That anxiety does not arise from any doubt I entertain as to the result of the present in quiry. From the case which has been laid before me, lam satisfied as to the result ; but the painful feelings I entertain have been created by to penonal communication. which I have had with the plaintif—a communication from which you. Gentlemen, by the na ture of your dude., are necessarily preluded. The unmixed feelings, with which the events you are the day assembled to review, have overwhelmed him, presented to me a picture of misery and of suf fering which it Is impossible, by any langUage I might use to make sensible to your minds. And in considering the case this day to be submitted to you, it will not be the least painful part of your duty, to consider the happiness he once enjoyed, and to contemn it with the miserable state of mind to which the facts about to be laid before you in evidence have reduced hint. It is not on my state. men; but non those facts, you are called upon to decide on the injury that has really been inflicted ; not on my representation of it to you. The peeing plaintiff is descended of an ancient and honourable family In Scotland, the second son of Sir W. Erskine ; himself a distinguished General, and one who was only prevented; by being in the service at an earlier period, from sharing in the glorious exploits which have been achieved by those illustrious per sons, of whose names mention will be made in the progress of this inquiry. In the year 17117 the plaintiff first became acquainted with his wife, Lady Louisa Paget, the daughter of the late Earl anti (!onntemni llshtidme, and asses to she moss Marmieref Anglesey. Tisane mtachnient was more ardent and romantic than attachments usually are In real life. Ca . osiderable obstacles pre sented themselves to their union, principally arising from their being younger members of their respective families, and without patrimony. These difficulties continued for a considerable time, and it was not until the fourth year that they were overcome, and even then they were only surmounted by the intervention of their late Majesties, who interfered in their favour, and chiefly by their interference they were enabled to accomplish the object of their wishes. They were married in the year 11101, and what does not usually occur in marriages under smiler cir- CIIIIII+IbIICM, their attachment; ardent and romantic as it was, con. tinned undiminished. "For fourteen years they enjoyed the most uninterrupted happiness. This will be satisfactorily testified to you by their friends and persons of inferior station who had an oppor tunity of observing their deportment towards each other. About 1815, Sir James Erskine succeeded his elder brother, Sir William Erskine, in the baronetcy; In that year ha projected a visit to Pails, to meet his old associates in arms after the battle of IVaterloo. I Sir James Erskine had himself served honourably in the Penin. sular war, but was prevented by ill-health from continuing in it to its glorious termination. Up to the period of his projected visit, be I enjoyed the moat uninterrinned domestic felicity. The attention and affection of Lady Louisa was now rendered more essential to his happiness by indisposition. He was afflicted with sore eyes, and she was wont to read and to write for him, and her attention ale. appeared unremittingly kind, to all who had an opportunity of wit nessing it. The felicity they enjoyed in their privacy could not be produced in written documents, it was not to be heard from others, it was known only In themselves; but those who had an opportu nity of witnessing their intercourse in society, were ready to testify, that it had been uniformly kind, and bespoke the must ardent at tachment. Shortly after their arrival in PAM.' manifest and sudden alienation of the Lady's affections took place, his happiness in her socioy was destroj col. That a fatal attachment which she conceived for Sir Geo. Murray was the cause of this alienation, you will not vaguely conjecture, but surely infer, after the evidence has been laid before you. If Sir James Erskine had known then what he: has since unhappily learned, he would not hare been at a lons as to what to attribute his hourly experience of his wife's altered deportment and diminished affections. He saw love replaced , by distrust, and confidence by habitual alienation, yet was ' ignorant of the cause. He had now become as miserable as he before was happy. in this situation he took the only ermine open to an honourable man, and one which he was bound to take-- he redoubled his attentions, and became, if possible, more unre. wittingly sedulous than before, and determined on removing her from the scene in which this alienation of her affections took place. lie took her to Brussels. and hem thence to Spa, where he re mained some months. Ile subsequently resumed to Paris, and afterwards returned to England, when she went to her venerable mother, whom she found on the bed of sickness, which after wards proved to be the bed of death. Shortly afterwards he ; brought her home to his sent at Torrey, in Scotland, hoping that a restoration of privacy, and a return of their former retired habits, would be accompanied with a innuoration of that happiness he once; enjoyed. This was of little avail, however. At Brussels, on their return to Paris, and at home, her anacondas continued altered, and manifestly alienated from him. Meanwhile some suspicions broke in upon his mind, through reports which had reached hint, as to the cause of he unhappiness, and he had reason to believe that this alienated attachment had embonlied itself in the shape of a corre. I rpondence carried on between the defendant and his wife. He charged her with it ; the charge was met by constant denial on her part—she treated it with indignity —she threw herself: upon her knees on one occasion. declared the charge to be ground. ! lea, and asserted her innocence. With this asseveration he was satisfied, and yielded, as I conceived he was bound to yield, an easy belief to this declaration of her innocence. But her passion , had grown too strong for her now to master or control it. She had ' not resumed the wonted spirits she enjoyed before their ill-omened visit to Pans. An incident row occurred which gave irresistible strength to the sun nions he had previously harboured. flog, nturring the postman arrived; the servant brought in the past-bas to the room where Sir James and Lady Erskine were ; she was reading; she seized the beg and opened in turning half round from him to ers:le his obrervation ; she drew from it a large packet.! directed under a tree cover, marked " Tem Quarter Master General's Department." no George Murray was then on the : stain Id that establishment. Sir J. demanded, as was his duty, to see the contents of the packet. She immediately ruse, and rushed out of the room and remained absent siifficiently long to destroy its contents. On her return she showed a snudil note and a letter, which was all that she would admit the packet to contain. In despite of all her oaths and nil her denials be was now satisfied and convinced that n correspondence had been carried on ; he no longer doubted the cause of the alienated aft:enema of his wife. Here he had proof why he was male wretched, which was n confirm ation strong as proof of holy writ" of the suspicions he had before entertained. The next day he left his home--that home which in an rigonized letter he designates touchingly but simply "an unhappy home." lie ass apprehensive now that not only his wife's affec tions were alienated, bit tin's her honour bad been given up to another. Sir George Murray had been his comrade in the anny— he had known him hem his youth—they had been long intimate— on the visit of himself and Lady Erskine in Paris they were naturally flung into his society. They had met Finn on the first day they dined out in Paris. Standing its this situation—no ordinary one, towards Sir G. Murray—it required no ordinary measure to be taken. He resolved to have from his own mouth an adinimion of the meth of his suspicion, ow a disavowal from him ; he addressed him a lettet fur that purpose, to whien be reCTiVed a frank and pemnp. tore dental hum Sir George Murray. He declared in this let.er, that in order to leave no opening for suspicion, any letters he might hare written to Lady Erskine, he had no objection that they Shoed be seen by her husband ; and that in whatever in iereonree he had had with Lady Erskine, nothing had occurred in jurinue to his (SirJ. Erskine's) honour in the slightest degree, or to that of Lady Erskine." Beside this letter, an bon. and gal lant !He'd of ntine (Sir R. Wilson) at the request of Sir J. Erskine, waited on Sir 11. 3lurray, who repeated this denial, and desired that it might be considered sa " a free, candid, and un reserved explanation." And my Hon. Friend, in conveying this denial to Sir J. Erskine, said that if any thing fill short of his wishes, as to a full and complete denial, it was attributable to the inadequate manner in which he conveyed it. With this letter, and this exp lanation. his suspicions were lulled. It came from a man admitted honour, of high military rank,' and military service. Nevenheless, the aGetioa of his wile had been alienated; he had hecn an exile from his home, and reduced to such a state of misery as to make him an object not of envy Yr the least fortunate of his fellow creature*. Without imputation mi the honour of Sir G. Murray, if Sir J. Erkine had been informed then df what he ' ca d time learned, he must have been convinced that, if guilty cantina had not passel between the parties, which was all the letter strictly guarded against, all the pu misses of intrigue hal bawl accomplished befor • they left Paris. T h is correspondence was carried on through a logwyde place and aft Wme !de chum& e. ,tosignations were made Aw them to meet frequently in private. The name of the lady oho owned the house where these assignations took place. I am unwilling to name, from my re. luctance to involve a thitd party in the consideration of this rase. In public, a reserved and respectful distance was observed; not so much even as the appearance of a flirtation was carried on in the company of the lady's family. But what, Gentitanen, will be your surprise when you heir, that within two months after the die. i avowal contained in his letter, and after the •' frank and unreserved" explanation which ha gave Sir Roben Wilson, Sir James Erskine learned from a friend, that Sir Gene 3lisrray and Lady Erskine were living at a •••rateringsplace, itWli a Csguised name ? Hoar Sir J. Erskine must have born astounded at such an intimation I leave you to conjecture. He soon traced them to several places where they had lived under the same roof, and no doubt could remain that a criminal intercourse between them had been completed. He fol lowed their several mnvements—they hod been at Dumblain, a watering-piece in Perthshire) they removed thence in August, 1021. to Medial, in Derbyiliiry : At the close of that month Lady - Erskine removed to lodgings at Earl's Court, in Illtruptons where she lived under circumstances of great mystery—Sir O. Murray constantly being at the home, bet not appearing there be. fore any of her friends who visited h er ; ! le h a d a room i n the home I to which he retired when any of Lady kaskine's family aunt to see her. In December, Lady Erskine paid a visit to Sir C. Pa. get, in the Isle of Wight. She met Sir George Murray near I sandhurst, on their way to the Isle of Wight. She went at Christ mas to her uncle a ('anon of Windsor, and returned in January with her brother to Earl's Court, • here she renewed her mysteri ous intercourse with Sir IL Murray. In February, itt - 2•2, she se cuenpanied hint to Finchley, where she had not long been before she was delivered of a child. The birth elf the child took place on the 22d of April, 182?. The only want she had to make bee mar ried state perfectly happy was the want of children. She wag nee in her forty.fifth year. and the birth of the child at this advanced period of life naturally affected her constitution. Then Sir 0. .tiunay lived constantly with her, and they both paused under the assumed names of 3lr. and Mrs. Evans. The child was there baptised in the name of Louisa Georgie* Augusta Anne Evir3s, and registered in the pariah.buok 01 the daughter of George and Louiu Evans. Fr.mi Finchley they went to ()daunt, io Hamp shire, where they lived as at Finehley, and under the same ficti. time name. I now come to the last topic of the many,. of cruel aggravation in which this case abounds. After the birth of the child, they thought of a plati whereby they hoped to be able to live togeth er i n f uture , not in disguise, but as man and wife. The fictitious names of Mr. and Mrs. Evans might do very well for a time, but the de ion could be but temporary ; would soon be detected, and must be given up at last. They projected a marriage in such a manner as they thought would save their own characters from impeachihent, at the expense of the character of my injured client. By the law., of this country they conld not procure a divorce, but there was a law of Scotland which allisrded sonic such facility, by which they hoped to be able to effect it. That law w as on e whic h empowered a wife to sue be. husband for a divorce if he had not lived dith her for four yams. If he does not take her back within that time a divorce is granted for what the Law terns, " his wilful desertihn of his wife." ily this measure they hoped to throw shame and dig.' grace on this deeply-injured man. B u t w h a t cared they for that ? They had already done him a wrong, which they could not excezd in whatever way they might afterwanls do. The suit was coin meneed, and persist;d in up to the present period. They expe rieaced, however, an obstacle to their plan, by an offer on the part of the husband to tyke her back; and thus the dosigh was defeated by which they sought to get rid of her marriage with him, as the husband, serving a citation n: his readiness to take back his wife within the prescribed time, frustrated the suit. The Learned Gentleman here went over the leading points el the statement, and enforced them with his usual eloquence. He pro ceeded. The witnesses would prove the facts as I hare stated, and which they have seen. They will describe to you the state of wretched feeling into which this calamity has thrown my unfortun ate client. The defendant's Counsel may dwell with his wonted ingenuity ou a variety of topics, but do not forget, co evidence, no documents are offered on his behalf, and I require credit for nothing that I shall not prove. The defendant cannot plead the impetuosity oaf youthful pasnen or youthful Indiscretion. Be has arrived at the . Mature age of fifty-four. The high station and distinguished cha racter of the defendant aggravated the injury of him against whom the defenlant's conduct was die med. he only frailty that could be imputed to my client is his excessive forbearance, his want of readiness to doubt the virtue of his wife; his fault was, that be too strongly and too fondly loved—that he too strongly trusted her. Your experience, too frequent, unfortunately of late, tells you that you cannot give reparation in a case like this ade. quate to the injury the plaintiff sustains. Yet it is due to the character of the plaintiff tharthe damages you award should mark your sense of the wrong he has sustained. In proportion as the in jury is great, so should your conipensation be large, for to that Vaal. tire injury which he sustains by the crime of the defendant, is superadded another injury —a wound inflicted on his character, if your reparation Ise not ample. The following witnesses were then called:— Elisabeth hates sworn, and examined by 111 r. Bnor c naaf— i am housekeeper to Lord (;wydyr. I was in the service of Sir G. and Lady Erskine. in the capacity of lady's maid, berm: which time I was in Lord Galloway's service. Lady Galloway is sister to Lady Erskine. They were married in the year 'WI. I was then in Lord Galloway's service. I had frequent opportunities of seeing their conduct after their marriage. Their conduct was most exemplary on both sides. They were much attached, and their manner wan most affectionate. I lived with Sir J. and Lady Louisa to the year 111111. Shortly after the battle of Waterloo he left England fur Paris. Up to that pei loud I saw no interruption in their affections which were more than ordinarily strong, warm, and attached, I had no idea of observing or suspecting an interruption in their affix:ions at any time. Sir J. was absent part of the year 1810, and during his absence she lived at a cottage near Farlthallt• On his return from the Peninsular war he was indisposed, and I Lady Louisa was most attentive to him. She acted towards him like a nurse, anti with the winos' kindness and attention. I did not observe any change in his manner towards her, cr diminution of affliction on her part, during the time 1 lived with them. Sir J. was affected with sore eyes ; Lady Louisa used frequently to read and write for him. CrwastaatninA by the ATTOR X ET-0 ENE It AL.—T . e.ey gene rally, after their marriage, resided at Tortay, in Scotland; their habits were very retired ; they had no children, or prospect ofany I do not know what was her age when she left England fur the Continent ; noraut I certain what was her age when she was mar ried. At her marriage ia Ilidi, it might h.eve been probably 22, but of this I ant not certain, and can only speak from conjecture. By a Juror— 't ir J. was net so near-sightcd as to be incapable of writing or reading the superscription of a letter. It was more to relieve him as an af:ctionate wife, than from any positive necessity, that she read and wrote fur him. Col. :11*Donald--I have known Sir .1. Erskine since 1803: I was en his staff in Ireland, in the year 1100 or 1901, attached to it as Alajor of Brigade. Sir J. Erskine, and Sir George Murray, are !Kith Lieutenant-Generals in the army ; Sir George Murray is Lieutenant-General of the Ordnance, now secand in the depart. merit of which the Duke of Wellington is head. On first joining the staff; I was not acquainted with Sir James Erskine, but after wards became intimate with him ; for a considerable time many occasions were afforded me of seeing him, as I lived next door to him in Ireland. and used to be in constant intercourse with him. private as well as official ; I had constant opportunities of seeing Lady Louisa there ; they lived on terms attifection ; indeed, I Dever raw persons live Inure happily to; ; so they were esteemed to live in society, and my private observation confirmed this gene. ral opinion. It was impossible that arl persons could live on happier terms. I accompanied Sir J E. to Scotland, in 'capacity (as wenadcrsto.xo similar to that which I served undo. him in !rebind. On Sir James's return, in IMO. they lived on the same terns of uninterrupted happiness. 1 had equally frequent opportunities of observing their conduct then as in Ireland. Their affection we undiminished. I saw them at an hotel in town shortly before they went to Paris; thizit it was in the stemma in which the battle act I Waterloo took place. Their manner did not appear to me pre cisely as it had been before. I only saw them one nionting, how ever, and that for a short time. I have seen them separately since, but have not met them together since that visit. They appeared to observe more distance towards each o:her than formerly. an the casino of my seeing them at the hotel. My visit was very sheet, ! and I was probably impressed with reports I had heard, and make [ that observation with this qualification. James Murray. Esq.—l am broilicrsin-law to Sir J. Ers'iitte. I lire at Aberearny, near Sir J. Erskine. After their manage I had frequent opportunities of seeing Sir James and Lady Louisa. I was in the same regiment with hint. Their conduct appeared to me to he as affectionate as possible on both aides. Their affection, I may say, was curled to tomance. I oinsrved no abatement in their deportment up to 11:13. I saw them at Paris; their attach ment there did not seem so great. cross-examined by the Avriattirtr.Gnictum..—f - r :antes Erskine's sister lived with him at Torrey. This hilly accompanied him to Spa. They went by lambrae ; they arrived at Cambray three Of four days before the allied armies quitted Paris. Ido not know that Sir James Erskine would not sleep with Lady Louisa at Paris; neither do I know that they had separate suites of aAti meats. 1 rather think they hvl, however. and that :hey otiljr`W• wrist:al at meals, read on formal occasions. Sir James, on his return. left Lady Erskine at Torrsy, when be wait to Edinburgh. Miss Erskine accompanied them to Cambray Spa. and back Vain to Paris. They were in the habit of visiting Sir George Murray at Paris a pod deal on their return from the Spa. I was not lit Paris. and cannot say whether they renewed their visits to Sir Marray, but have head that they did. n:•t sure • whether Sir Enitioe war present whew i heard it, nu do I know whether he told sue go or me. Re-tun:toed— Miss Erskine's residence was principally at Aber. rarity. Sir Robert Wilson, Mk P.—l am intimate pith Sir J. Erskine and Sir G. Mune,. I was lining with them some months after their marriage,. at Lord Ilarasures house. Lord and Lady Hats court are in an infirm state of health. They were remarkably attached to each other; their attachment was more than ordinary ; it was a subject of general observation. i had (replete oppertu. nities for seven or eight years occasionally of meeting dean, and their attachment continued undiminished. Mr. Itaortistast Hera intithated that he should have ocarina in call Sir Robert Wilstnat another part of the case, aid Would not at present fun her trou6lllshit. Adam Crass ford.—l teas bred op its the Erskine fanilly. i was in Sir Wm. Erskine's service before I was in that of the plaintiff: ' lived with him from Dna to PIG, in the capacity of groom, and afterwards as house-servant. I was not lunne-servant before they went to Paris. In the mOrtuniiies I had of seeing them, I never saw two so loving towards each other as they were. I accompanied them to Paris; they staid there nine months t they thence rem to Brussels; they stopped there three months'. I left hid genies there, being unwilling to go back to Paris. I was .not par tial to Paris , and was un•illing to go back, being a.'laid that something unpleasant would occur. laugh." What I oat afraid of was something improper bettreen Sir Hoar, Mu:. ray and Lady Lo u is a Erskine. They lived at the ff (Jr.; hunk at Parts. There correspondence was correspondence kept up in . arts be tween Sir G. Murray and Lady Louisa. This correspondence wad Conducted _ by a forgery dot placl. named A timiite ; the letters were given to bady Louisa by a felOorse de dieseeti.e. It was winter.. time. On one occasion I was the only poses in the house beside* lady Louisa; Sir James had gene out to ptirchlite mime pietn:a. I can recollect. On that oemaihn 1 admitted Sir Range Mornay in the absence of Sir J. Erskine. It'hen he came in I wail sent oat for asparagus. I was absent abdtit an hair. Wilds I came halt I found Sir George Murray there. I saw S it _ Oyer take his leave on his departure ; he at that time held Had) lidabla by I the hands. They went out by a back.door when they dm tae. They both appeared in high spirits and were laughing. I wart , with Sir J. Erskine to Spa. Letters were put in the pod de Sps ad. dressed to Sir G. Jlurray, m the hand.writing of Lady Lauda They were ;sat in by the maid. She hfought latent 'him the poot.oapas which were also in the handswriting of Sir fl. Mandy. I knew the hand-writing of both. I did not fell Sir J. Nadine. as I kneel his temper too well, and was Oral that lie would take a pistbl ant shoot Sir O. Murray. Cross.examined by the Art oit t t• GE xi Iva —w ben Sit' George and Lady Louisa went our at the back door, they saw the. had no other reason for not /Fir% to Paris than that which I have stated. I knew Justine the maidservant; I was on good trains with her,ria good as any other per• On. laugh.) I never had that I MU charged with being, the father of a child of her'i. mentioned one day on the road Mien Rrusleis to Spa to Sir Jain e Erskine, that It would he better for him to be d Ifidnie than here. I was sitting beside him on the dickey ; the boavereatitin bid not proceed flanker. He merely said that he etsulU not live as wells that is as cheap, as at home. I did not explain *hitt I meant. The ATTOIIIftr.OENERAL —Why did you not fo::ow 110 the hint ? Witness—l au afraid that from tie love he bore that "(intim, if he knew It he might have shot me on the spot There was a pieta as well 4 a bhustierbuss in the Coach. The head:quartet of did allied armies were removed from Peril tb Cambia, tints rawer before. Ite.examined by Mt. BIOUGRANI—Pir Janda Erskine did bed take by niv obsertation on the dickey in the light In which I mesas it, and I did not follow it up. The reason they dent oat the Idea wry was, as I conceive, that they did not wish the to see than In that situation ; they were holding rich other's hands, and went laughing; he could ndt be holding het hard to conduct ha to het carriage, as there was none at the doof. John George Shama being sworn thiough the medium of an interpreter.-1 was laqnry dr place to Sir James Erskine, at P for two months and upwards, not quite three. I always the carriage when lady Erskine went out. There was one where she used to call regularly every ilay. [Wanes, red kid directed by Counsel not to state the name of the lady ta wham dad house belonged.) She met there Gene:id Murray. Lady Leisiaso when she made visits to that hous e . dent generally at ore, she staid until dinner time, between four and live. i remember mai Sir James Erskine having called at the house when Lady Louisa was there. lie was obliged to wait I tamer of an hour in thi antechamber. When Sir J. Erskine called' different doors weed opened and shut, and persons haird Sinning to and Ito; lust after a short delay, Sir Junes was pet mitted to enter. Lady Loafet was a little confused ; she came oat at the front door as usual. She always went alone, except when Sir J. Erskine's sister ass with her. I knew Sir George Murray soodtimes to have gone as by the back dour, through the garden, bat I did OM tee hits, at 1 Ina at the front door. I saw Sir 111. DI vitt**. servant, Augustrs there very often. Ile came to Genoa! Erskine's Hotel. ever lie came he brought a letter. 'legate the letter to the .ffsedir de chatobre or to the lady Of the hotel. lie waited tbr bet answer, which was given either by thefiqnna de chembre or by body Louisa herself. The ATTORDIEY.I3EXENAL submitted This was an implore mode of proving the correspondence. The U senet SHERIFF was of oplakm the evidence was a2.i, ol a / a ble. The Jury might draw their own lahreesee from it. Examination resumed.—The Lady herself uszd sometimes to to give verbal answers to Auguste. AU the that that I knew him he was servant to General Murray. Cross-examined by Mr. Sc ARLETT—Msay °thee persons visited at the house in question. Lady Erskine% carriage waited for her in the court-yard. Miss Erikine visited there very often, is coal , puny with Lady Louisa. I did not see Sir J. Entine and Sir G. .Murray meet each other on that occasion. There was a way through the garden by which they could get out, without puisirg I through the anti-chamber. I remember Sit O. Murray havidg broken his leg at Paris ; it occurred one day when he visited at that house. After the accident he wait awried into the bowie through the front door. Lady Erskine used to go thereotien when he was in that state. Lady Erskine was sometians sheen Into the bed. reoli to see Sir 6. .il tirray. Re-examincd- - -51.u1y persons of distinction visited there, both of the French and English nobility. The hour of visiting was fran one to four. There were beau:iful gardens of eight or ten am* attached to this house. By a Joror—Other company were shcwn into the bed-room as into the saloon. _ _ Re-xamined.--Other people visited Vie house, b•it I did nct hear the same movements as to which allusion has been made. Miss Erskine was then conducted into (nun by a fewftre7d; and examined.—l am sister of Sir J. Erskine; I lived with him and his lady sometimes at Tufty. I always thought them extremely attached. 1 accompanied them to Pavia. After they had been some time at Paris, they appeared tp live leas happily and comfortably together. There were occasional instances of imtation between them. I livol with them a very short time after they came home. lily brother, John Erskine, lived with them. He had bun in India, and suf fered rmlch from Ile was confined to his room so as to ace very little of them. Cross.ezarnined.—We went to Paris in July, ini& The head. quarters of the Allied Army were then returved to Ountway. dined one day with Sir George Murray. SirJaines Erskise ard Lady Louisa had different apartments at Cambray. We remainen at Spa s month, and then went to Brussels. !dories remilert if Sir George Murray was at Earnbrey on our return to Pais, wftf.e we remained from January to March ; Sir George Ilituray was theta there. We renewed our acquaintance with him, and dined with Wm as before. I never heard • either Sir James or Lady Erskine say whether they slept together ; there were two beds in their apart ment, but I cannot say whether they slept together swum shortly after their return they went to Torrey, in Scotland. During their stay there they had separate npanments--at least so I understood. I believe they did not sleep together horn the time they left Spa. Sir James Erskine went from Torrey to Edinburgh after they had been eighteeen months there. He came from thence v. England, and afterwards went abroad. Ido roe reyolleet exactly bow soon afterwards Lady Louisa went to her friends in England. I we. at Perthshire at the time. She remained a short ume at Torrey after Sir James's departure; during his absence I visited her thrtre. ~By the Jury.—lt was snow time aftr Sir James's marriage that I became an inmate of the family. I lived with Lady I claws during Sir James's absence in 1810. Mrs And e'er was cook and housekeeper at Ter ay c I was hired by Lady Louisa; I lived with them for swami }ears (we un derstood the witness to say fourteen). On one occasion, when I brought in the post-bag, lady Louisa desired me to lay it down. Sir James desired me to give it to him-1 did do; he desired Lcly Louisa to go for the key—which she did. I did net see anything that afterwards took place respecting the post-bag. Sir James Icft the nest day, and did hat afterwards return to Torrey. Sir James and lady Louisa occupied separate bed-toms before this. l re , maimed there a short time, after which I left Torrey, and soon sub_ ! seventlyrtered the service in which I now am. mailed.l had an interview with Sir G. Mutiny in consequence of a communication with Sir J. Erskine—it was a private communication. The subject of it was to inquire into the nature of a correspondence which Sir James Erskine swmected t have been carried on between Sir O. Murray and Lady Louh.a. This suspicion arose in hia mind front a letter which arrived, oo which a superscription was inscribed, which intimated that it carot: from the department over which Sir li. Murray presided. Crosatexamined—l bare known Sir G. Murray a long litre ; he is a man of the strictest and highest honour. Sir James was satis fied widt this explanation, that no improper intercourse laid taken place up to that time. I was also satisfied then, and am 4i 1. that no improper intercourse had taken place up to that period, from it,: II•SIITIOICC to the contrary contained in the explanatitra and letter of Sir G. Illurr.q. Re-exao - of—Sir James Erskine is a man of irdisputahle honour. 1 w mid place him in the same rank in r .im of honour witn Sir G. Murray ; Slr li. denied are dustiest:at enee ; a letter ai1444;x1 . t0 Aim by Sir lames Erik him on that point, whether a elanderiss: corrvinorden varied ow. This Sir 0. bluntly denied. and wished tion to be considered as `• a frisk, explicit. aid UT avowal" on his Iwt. lie stated tacos that he said CI relkre tte min dor Sir Jamm Enkine from any appneho might entertain upon the subject. Re wrote a - laterals° Erskine. and regretted that the tone of Sir J. Erskine, him preiented Aim from replying to it in the mann, wirhed to hare done. [The letter of Sir 0. 3tunsy was here r.itd i it " sir," and espresaecl regret that the ton, of Sir 'titer preven:ed him in acknowledging the receipt of more than making the declaration, that in the intern him and Lady Erskine nothing Witt oc.mned injurious or to that of body Erskine's.) Jane Rob—My i mother kept a lodging-house at Perthshire. Lady Louisa was there n June in ISI . . . lodgings thee: f a person whom she expec:ed. an: ) , ~ r . A 1 ' 1 i 1 4 . 1 11 1 1 I I, . '.. , , J i , IN' A , . 1 ' 1 , 1 • . -.• k if 1 i } i I . a : 1 I 1 4 • 4 A - , . 1 1, i !• 4 . i i ! . I (1 . , ;:l • -'; 1 i (4 ac eat respond- kine qui-soma kris hail been il t n re ,th . x el li". ' di this in anise ro r. sprehensi , w he Takao to Sir J. ine's large ro lee is which he was addressed • r J. Erskine's C it imni doi^g worse between is to hi. Ix.oor rhimMatte, is 18111; she wink ad who arrival er to s