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.., re a vincula influence or- -, t it N.lei likely to bore an . . lie state of teprcsentatiu:' where, either this i ff;;ll pro.. rap cause, a lull:, clay Milt . without resfutin to al, fever. Those plies.* whit:it f ility for men oh cannot fuse to the par haw of from annuli:it Z t office, rat vt med. front t eXt r t I itch tubers l'ac.- pin op. : they (yen u CIL ity fir *if ally' Into the ous t , r be excluded, e 1,... I impos t popular itri civics, It a i.tw they uoul , hr, tc, 'titivate their limo o the loins e and faeripr. ' The. Mal it proper Id - I • up. the cirettioutigitesoi ill.: ug the transaction. i tract imagination, to lw .srlied ti to ilium. of - it#-0011 to nes r the f.treuee awl int, 'lain l e I inigbt expect to r 'en ~ principle. 1 eote4 rlt ale a. ti willistur n t tip which might be injurious ...lure will in Eqpt of some supposed fur a utcrisenc, :sice elections corrul,tli by iu my situation, as Moss', 7 right to exercise that fur lotion gave me, to sitiv.i , hour 1 was eonoretta, : a w h o would support that ependent principles, ~fry melon allowed, but i: st to :bittiatioil imtrioneut:tl ill cal puri , oses. Nu attend my 1:-ind in this cam.; if at I woe. acting for Fs 4, tly .e:. 4.- ly the Case. 1 .1. ruld ~ witich never, once as ly imafeciiiiy, iihKit was aerfect a one as toy philiiiir to which, if to may eh sige ova an alibi, I Aboard I law: partietilar, for it war MI ions nit eultd ; f..r suppose 1 wt.,' inel.t.and it appeared that l illicw, a writerahip, trt, tad stand) exposed ? If I a,41, , d !, it was not from any t ur :ced from any dishonest or i is evident from the nature not be kept a secret. Viatth g eerier acted on, 1 disc aim I that consideration; foe it roved. it makes little ditfi tr nited, or not. But it is nu f••• tions with Lord Claticartt, acenlopilshed, I might see D rattal, it was compete', t saw cause for so doing met n with. respect to Reding' s , u Id base retracted. I how.: 1.! niad enough to reliaquish, ny public character WH`3l ,e as a man for the par-• re mend, or procuring ant to which 1 belonged. 1: ally thing—l do not wish. on principle, whidi might . . the dignity of Parliament. case of its aggravation, was inftueoced by no Of fice, that I do not thick have been led to surreii mil above all that no rite_ corrupted by the tram:ie. nipress wy sincere 'egret riendthip or a wish to have rut persons' in the Oovern le into the adoption of any in inquiry by this House is before you upon which figment,. and whatever de co, I shall submit to it with ►w nn concluding his de- Orin:: enteied as read, Lord I the following Reimlu- is House, from the evidence on of Cistlereugh its the year 1405 Are of President of the Boari a Priv) Councilor, and Scen e disposal of the Earl Claticarty, the not:toilet on of a WEllrr ,~ebyticoring the said if omotrab . e Hour,. u t disuvl crowd anion utluc. traosact.m, taut tlus corrupt bntiereents bes been by t►e saki I of bus duty, of an abu.4 of his sidrut.of the Board of Cu.t upon the purity and cuttetitu- Viten it 311411 who has served ce for 'omit years, is c:sPett from tisu eitargeb contained tiinittter ur great moment, thermion. In the cour.e ut ~trle Lord made, he &se ( defendi•ig himself upon ',tend ti. defend him upon eon, this' it is not in my e defence I will refer to the tti that Mr. Reding, in his :yetl t resigN, told him that useietine him in cniutuf, es%tier.mell lammed Nlr. It want trot • ie the N. ■Kent h., A the Goreitet ent, he :der- PIMP II I •irid Le &tart- IF from the iihrieirst Id 10 1. try COrrijp; apstire ilie 11. \t:ire s th di .a. • Ltfl 13111111.1 1 , I co, _ lim \ in, pellertly sidequ al . . tar 1.13, pOritlCs went, j \ .O coilort:trti with t, ta p utt warty • sia i I wet(' in ti: • I crit.milv did • ' IWO , i digit's'. I did not Oink it ild surrriliter nay (Vim." I. the 13.4 intim world ti..,t '•- red him to Lord thmearty, whom his Lordship well koetv, and who was his partioatar fritird ; in some time after, he was told that the ttisitiesas was blown over, and that nothing was thole ; iu some time eller . Lord Citotlereagl i said that he cou ld procuee the situation of a won:rain!), which hr tvould apply to the purpose of facilitating that apeelliC negotia tion of bringing Lord Claticorty into Parliament, an intention to this moment moo:eroded. Such is the plain case before the House ; the whole guilt of which consists in Lord Castlereagh's proposing to facilitate the election of his friend. The Noble Lord ohposite said, that he was unwilling to press harder upon any man, than the evidence would bear nut out, totlyit appears to sue that the NOW Lord is forgetful of this sierlaration. I will ?MOW it is the ditty of every snarl not to dispose of his Patronage improperly, but as the Noble Lord sail, that Lord Castlereagh had not any knowledge of the character of Reding, I think it uttlair to enlist the case of Davis on this occasion; IV has !welt stated that the Noble Lord was quit., cant :it hosting hisimmensso.iated with such persons, cal from what his fallen from the other side, there ...,pears a wish to represent the indignation as not fair and honest, hut why should it he thought other wise? if the Noble Lord did not feel indignant at it hr would deserve rill the punishineut which may Noble Fiend appears so willing to hurl npou his heal. It'Atisbetirs In me that u., judlostc of the con duct of Lord Castlerreill we are slot to cull in the assistance of inference, but &Oda from the evi dence before us. I said it was impossible I. de fend Lord Costlereagh upon principle, I sat so still, but I may multiunit in perfect conshiteney with this opinioit, that dor Resolution of the Noble Lord gees to draw down a greater punishment *loin • the offence deserves ; there are degrees in offence : rots would not punish s o man for a bare intention with the satue seventy us for an sctual commission : now the least that can follow from the Resolution proposed is a dismissal from office. I know it is 'times asserted that dismissal from office is not to •ousidered it punishment when the dismissal is • toed hr the pleasure of the Soveseign, by a v. f strength in the ministry, or the success ai• • 'woollier of some rival party, it is certain 1Ii.• , a 1 cannot be considered as a punishment; brit ..• :diarges of corruption areentertained, saactitict O. ,ltd registered, and the disinissal takes .phiee iu ....u-equence of such charge'', will any ism stay tl, • •he dismissal from office is not a pot. otishitictit, : a severe one too? I will slot trou . the t'w House 'toy longer upon this subject, but shill couctode with s ho,re that the !loose, in ex 11f04114C its discretion, will be consi.letitt, and is is oistiety to discharge a duty to the public, will not forget what it owes to an individual. On the grim .de I have already state I, I shall more that the other warm of the Any be now read. • Mr. W. 4Virool.--ti Certainly, Sir, after the tepeticts'etliich we have heard from the Noble Lord, 1 for ope slid ant expect that he would h av e (om elette:l it with suds a motino. I for one did not mapetist that after be said the proposition of my I%OWe Friend was lather severe, lie would attempt to .41thitittite it aids a proirosal that it should be dismitoo-t1 altogether; that when a Rsoolution was 'wormed by him grounded upon facts, the Noble Lord ahoold proposie to us to pa,* it by without notice as a nisitter chalk u twortne of detaining us from more in:port:on Luoitess. I agree with my • Noble Frieird that a negrolotion upon a corrupt principle was ',derided to be carried into effect ; 1 would be sorry that any man would think of calfounifttig the inteatiou with the esecoo attd attaching to them an equal ; but if the imeetion is leas criminal than the execution, are we therefore to conclude that entering tato such a negotiation is no offence whatever? I expected that the Noble Lord would have said he ugreed as to the facts, but thought the expressions were toe string, and that he "mild have proposed same other form, not 'bible to that objection. I null admit that many may have entered auto, and ooutintied, the sante system ; that they may have been equally goilty with the Noble Lord, though they sitecestled better iii concealimf their faults from the public; but is that a reason why, when such a fact is brought to light, the House of Commons should paw over it lightly. if they do, it will he in effect pi:hauling; to every person oho tills that situation hereafter that he may pursue the saint traffic. that he mug keep au open market to the same way, but may rewires her th a t a number shin Only !Wowed in the same track in which others had gone before him. should be lull but, whets it is brought forward, no matter how long it has been existing with impunity, in the present case we have but one course to pursue, there is no option for our de cision. Duty chalks out the line, asid however re.. luctantly we must submit to its dictates. I know that there are many persons in this house who are disposed to maintain that the influence over electors is soot injorions, and that little disadvantage results from the !trochee of bribery ; this I know many of them to maintain in private conversation, but when a case of this kind is made out, they are bound in duty to obey the course prescribed by law, and by act of Parliament ; mid with that, their private opt @nowt on tin not to interfere. I agree in the Reso luticn of 1779, which reprobates the interference of Ministers of the Crown at elections. Many may liter in opinion upon this resolution, they may be iodine(' to doubt its truth, but it being a resolutiqp of this house renders it in my opinion, imperative ttooti us. It may be said, that the East India Company ought to be grateful to those who would recommend proper num to till the situations, as to the Titanic:llion, that aro required. I think it wholly Impossible that out of 20 eilutosted Melt 19 should not lie fit far them ; it therefore is not so great a xortipliment to 'wooly the Mast India comeany oath these a petent persons. Appointments un der the Colnitany are *maniere! vomited when ob triocd with undue ottastence, wench though o'l'llol - should not have been privy. If such recom mendations are proper tp lie put in execution, is it not equally just in any public man Who per mits Isis Patron:ore to be disposed of -without his knowledge; the fact is that I think both priuciples wrong, lint is this a case it which the Noble Lord win ignorant of the disposal If his Patronage ? No, it was one in which he himself was about to, dispose of his Patronage for unworthy noel uneoloai tutiosal purposes. He did not attempt to justify . • ftfietraotaetion upon principles that were better thee it he bail stood nl, unfdusliiitiely t sat! imilrlries siscleioney io iny potter, 1 twee gaiiseel tr din thetrausaction, and therefore I Val irroxxati. ' was a better and iuure wraith et way of proteediu and may have some tendency to mitigate the Iru ni.l whieo the Itemise imght beitichned to lid judge to him. I wises thnt I• 10 (110 , teliSiOte may he MIIIMMed which would vindicate the dignity of the , Howse: übt only the public now, but posterity hereafter, will look to our elecisiou upon this ne. casioo, and be influenced by It. 1 remember ' there was a charge usiez brought agelust a Tress surer uf the Nuvy, upon evidelice given in soother place ; a Right Hon. Gentleman then argued that the charge rested upon the testimony of a witness whose evidence was not eutidod tobelref, 'and whiles. character was to, infamous to jostity any Confidence. But here is an evidence taken by our own body, and not liable to the objection sue• cetera y urged in the case of the 'Treasurer of the Navy. Will any Member state, that what appears upou the eeidente in this ewe., if carried into effeai was-not deserving of punishment? For my part, I think expulsion the smallest that could he op. plied to it. I certainly ago not for pisiii,hing the inteution with - the same seventy ; but then I am as far from ag reeing that n o not i ce s h ou ld . be taken of it. A case occurred some tune ago, of a man attempting to murder another by striking him with a poker on the head; on the trial there was some difficulty in aecertaiii. lag the extent of the crime, iu order to proportion the punishment; the poker was not an metre. went to cut with, but the inteetion was equal• ly manifeet as if it was, end equally punished. open the same ground, I think that the inten tion manifested and acknowledged by the Mini- stet was sufficient to establish his criminality. Consider what an edict your compliance with the motion of the Noble Lord may produce mom the country hereafter; how natural would it be for seb orquent Parliaments to say, when called upon to punish a Minister who had actually executed what the Noble Viscount only attempted, in the Parlia ment of 1809, the attempt was considered too tri lling to be noticed. Surely then the performative of it now is of no material consequence. Some thing Ins been said with respect to aggravation, in this case. It has been said, that that patronage did' not fall to the Noble Viscount by virtue of his own office-, hut was attached to some other depart ment, distinct from his. I do tint think that such interchanges ought to exist. This circumstance, however, does not appear to one to he any aggro. vininn of the Noble Viscount's fault ; hut as cer tainly it is no extenuation of it ; if that nes admit- ! ted, it would open the door to nututeerle.s other I abuses; for if a Chancellor of the Exchequer was to make a corrupt appointment in the revenue, he might say, I have nothing to do with that, it does not come immediately 'under my office, it was in the department •f my friend the Secretary of State ;" this exchange, this borrowing of patronage for the purpose of influencing the re, turn of Membern to Pierhaineid, ought to he pre- , vented, end it is upon the strongest conviction of its nece.bity that I vote for the Resolutions proposed ' by my Noble Frieod." Mr. CROICIR defended the character of the Mare quit of Sligo, and contended the Resolutions were much too severe; he appmved of that part of the speech of the lion. Gentlernau opposite whiclere- commended a middle course. Mr. WYhtit mi.!, that the Hon. Gentlemen seemed to have misauderstood him, he reconee mended no middle eourse ; he said, that he rite pected that the Noble Lord opposite would have recommended such a course, but for his part ho did out meats to disapprove in any degree of that. which his Noble Friend hail adopted. Lord Mturom apologised for some inadvertent expression of surprise which had fallen from hint in the course of Lord Castlereagh's defence: Mr. W. SMITH said, that the Hnn. Gent. had succeeded in drawing their attention from the iioly question that was properly before them. The cha racter of the Marquis of Sligo had nothing is do with the case. The Hunnurable Gentleman, he thought, would find some difficulty in recoiled ing winie iticonsistencias that appeared iu his speech: lie felt the greatest indignation at the imputution that had been cast upon the Marquis of Sligo, in associatiag him with such transactions, but lee seemed to lose all his warmth. when he contem plated the charge niede teethed the hieing ; he thought that the Honourable Gentleman ought to have taken a little more paint to defend theliving, after what he had dune for the deed. l'he conduct of the Noble Lord was so cul pable, that it was impossible for the House to pass it over, without at least some .tpecies of anima& ' version. As to his (Mr. S.) opinion of the structure of that House, it might be of very little importance, but he thought it highly unconstitutional and inju rinus to the country, that any such influence should be nsed in returning Members to Parliament. as that which the evidence before the Hums went to disclose. The political offence was attach ag gravated by his making an improper use of his pa tronage as President of the Board of Cou troul. The Directors utaght not to give tail. Patronage for such puniceee. lle could not sup pose they did, hat if they dial, it ass • reason why the power should be taken out of their hands, as , had been proposed some years ago. It was acknowledged by the Noble Viscount that he entered tom the traffic to facilitate his friend Lord elancarty to a seat in that house, hot not . to increa-e the interest of Government ; this was ludicrous iilee. Lord Clancarty was a Member of the Board of Controul which the Noble Lord presided oser, and there credit not he a question how he would act in that House; he would vote act-online to the wishes of the perion who placed him in that situation. While meats iii Parliameut *ere thus oliteitied, and that through' the medium aed interest oh Ills Mniesty's Ministers, the people pf the couiary had mulling to hope. It was vitrAl known that Boroughs were objects of sale, some. ' times they were the s t ilt of friend-hip, but more ge nerally the 114.1 , 4011.1 obtaiiiing them had no other right or claim to them, except the four or live thou esiid pot sssss is they whammed for them. It was impos sible to wow rare this suoject from the grand question of Helium isi Parliament. He had heard, in his early life, the great Chatham say, .• if the House dirt nut re f orm itself within, it would, with a ref/valuer, be leforesed from *Most:" Rebolre,l sec+ a rorristaiice would never take piker. There wee no in t o !het *mild be were sorry to see such onetime caltN.l for thou him; yet, he was fearful those loud and dreaded calls would name, if the /loose wouM not smote to the determination of purging theruselyee. He did out aivirthe House to exerciatt their powerit beyond that aaked by the Noble Mover. He could not oar what objection the Noble Lord (Broiling) could have to the i?d resolution ; bet if he had an objection, he would have thought it more eligible for the Noble Lord to have moved an amendment, instead of the previous question, which only mvant that the Irish Commissiowere ' Compensation Bill, or tome other of the like na ture, was' of more iteportalice thin the present - irestion, the corruptiou of which struck at the very 1 'gals of the Constitution. If a private individual was found guilty of the some crime, he would be - lent to punishment, and the evidence before the . House would be sufficient to convict au individual. He wished to kuow why it 'should not extend to the. Noble Lord ; his official situation only aggravated the crime. Whether the negotiation WWI throng 1111.0 I effector not, thellouse lied no right to ihquire. for the intention and purity of motives ware the mini-; besides, the senses could not be abut against the political intrignes in a sister country (belated) in which the Noble Lord commenced his political career. He considered the defence of the Noble Vi-count, as only a confession of his crime. He re ntinticred, in the crime of Warren Hastings, that he denied every word of hi, former def. l ice, aril void it wns put in, without his considering it. . The Noble Viscount could not have that excuse as be had made it priso,tally. The Him. Member concloded with 111; 4 , that the rewihitions had his most cordial lownt, and that be would support any address that should be movird in concord wtih them. Mr. MANNERS SUTTON spoke a few words in support of the smandinent. Mr. (iRSTSAN, disclaiming all motives of per sonal hostility, or a desire to push the matter be yond its fair bearin4, said, he would give his opi nion of the transaction as it appeared to Min ad mitted oil all 'iambi. It was A negotiation to pur -1011.115a a snit in that House. So unparliaineutory, that it would iictt bear to be stated; to 'sell that which, by the Laws of the laud, and the Constitu tion of Parliament, was net to lie sold. This was an offenee in silly individual ; but, iu a Minister of the Crown, it was a high ageravatioa of the offence, because,ro his case, it became a conspiracy agniust that courstitution which he wits in a peculiar manner, from his trust, bound to defend and protect. He did mot intend to urge this in a peculiar instiller against the Noble Lord; because he was willing to believe, as asserted, that lie was free from any evil intention in the transaction. If, however, this was deserving of reprehension as a Member of the Etecutive Go vernmeet,. it was also an offelice Noble Lind, in his other capacity of President of the Board of Contiotil ; thus web there a double breach of trust,, aael a complicated offence against the soup. Did it follow, that hecanse it was notorious that seats in that House were bought SON 4 sold, that Ministe had • prescriptive right to violate the public Pen. perty. by the p_turtwe of those seats out of the publicfunda? This observation would apply equal ly to every m Civil, department—that of India, th e the Ecclesiastical, the itlilitury—all were liable to ' Ole same otwervation. Shall we, then, complain of die streandets met are polluted. and trot demise the ; - eouree;from which they flow? Shall we suffer priu dpals abuse their patronage with impunity ? and sUI we putitsh subordinate intruders? In what he list* he did not mean to accuse the Noble Lord of .atttial corrupt iiitentions in the t r e nsac ti omr that bid taken place, but.lookin g a t th e f acts use t h ey aced admitte d, he felt himself obliged to give hie vote in favour of the Resolutions proposed by his Houcturniale Friend, whet, be considered that the writership was expressly; appropriated to Lord l i Ciancarty, for the purpose of procuriug a seat in that House. PeitCTSAL defended the motion of pawing to the Order of the Day. He contended that the offence irnprtfed to the Noble Lord, admitting, that its completion it would be the subject of ani madversion, was in its nature only in intention, and that as such it not to be pat in competi tion with the sev er ity o f d r i ving the N o bl e Lord 'from the situation which he filled with so moeh credit to himself, and benefit to the country. Mr. PONIONDY regretted the unfortunate sitna lion of any situated as the Noble Lord was in the present occasion. Hetrusted, however, that the whole tenor of his own conduct would convince the House; that if lie was likely to fall into error in the discussion, it would be that of levity, both as to the fact, and the conclusion to be drawn from it. It was admitted first, by o n e of those who had preceded him, that the fact charged was a Parliamentary offence ; and .by another, that there was a seaming necessity of lonian some judgment upon it, and yet they find both suggested the propriety of passing all by, and proceeding to the Order of the I)ay. The one had pressed upon them, that they should not proceed to' inflict a punish mega more severe than the case called for, sod yet the Resolutions proposed by his Right lion. Friend did not call for any punishment, as for a malignant or aggravating offences as it might have been, if it had bees a m o ti on f or the revulsion of the N oble i Lord from that House, or for an address to His Majesty for his removal from office ; on the contrary, all that was moved for, was sim ply that the transaction was an offence. It was admitted, that the Noble Lord, in disposing of the write ship in favour of Lord Clancertlf• was guilty of disporting of Patronage in the very case which was iiiteuded to be guarded against; namely, that of keeping Patronage out of the reach . of Parliamentary influence; this was violating the very object intended to he guarded against. The question then was whether they should pass such a trunsachoti by and proceed to the order of thedey. Admitting then that the Resolutions proposed misfit be in some respects wimigly warded. why pass on to the order of the day, why not rather amend them in such points as might appear obi.. jectionalble ? In habits as he was of optalltimt th e Noble Lord upon principle upon msit"ef his measures; he had upon all occasions elides toorpd to unntrosil his feelings, and hedul so now in poltirtilar, atm to the Resolutions proposed ; but he felt it impusoble to arts to passing to the -- 'I miter of the day. tie spoke not of the stele of the public mind, nor of the ardor evinced upoo the present oceasioh ; Oil the contrary, he felt that such trstier's should not weigh in a cave where en Maly . , dual west:ow:creed; Ind in hir conscience he could nut agree to the Amendment proposed, and it s ;is with regret h e f e lt hi mse lf called- on to say. that if after the admissions that were made, they were to pass on to the order of the day, without aereeieg to any censore, the example would be most niiii chievmta. Their character depended on the divi sion they should make ; and therefore he felt hint self honed to rapport the motto's of 1111 Hight Hon. Friend. Mr. BANKES cautioned the House thit the Committee osit of which the present question arose, was nominated merely to inquire Mtn abuses respecting the East India Coropany. A spirit of esaggeration was gone forth, sod the same bleineinight - be impeted ; yet he did not feel in clined to go the length of the Resolutious pie posed. Sir F. BILAIDTTT rose. mod said , 41—i cannot see what objection the House can have to the reso lution pmposed by die Noble mover. • The Noble iscount accused did not find any itn4woprwty in the nrgotiatiou until he learned it could not he carried into effect. lam one of those perms* who cousider a negotiation commiatced, as criminal as if it was put into full effect. I consider the peisiciple the same, awl the person cmistneue in; the negotiation would only be disappointed by its failure. I have often heard in this House that there was a certain class of persons called D •- conteuted, or libellers, (Hear! hear! hear!/ in this country. I do not know of any of t.:at descripti • • ' believe there are niiniliers, yes, the die country. who are in rimier of pi...uog a.. end to the elcatructite triflneuee of His Majesty's Ministers, I em prond to ocknow- - 114 ledge I am one of them that wish to do away with all abuses. I HIM of °oilist, that there hits not been any cry of the people, which would entitle the Noble Viscount or hti l'iseuds to give them the appellation of disaffected. I believe, sad t i will insiutain, that the people of this country were the most . loyal that this Crown, rw eny other can boast of, while they feel that they are represented by this Howie: If we do lest minviece therm they are really represented, I cannot vouch for their siitishiction.' I toink the defence of the Noble Viscount we. a nrodest one-- that lie did not think such a person as a broker ex isted. This is only an agerrivatioa i.f n., (mine. Hie hete,it hi Office way uo excuse or elarti.it,l4 the patronage of the Crown for base porous--.: nil the contrary. Ism of opinion he ought, in the Were he war situated, to he the guardian, 'o pretest public ogainst abuses. I ant confident, Cio Viscount felt, wheo,he was Limiting his Ik recce, he was convicted b his owe evidence before die Com mittee. I am not surprised that Ise should Hot dunk it an aot that ought to he Ishii 1114 or laves- egeted in this House, when I reflect on the ,gay. fitteal ititrignes he woe so well vented is - eel .Idle Union. Cuder such circaustances i _li *mum Lie lalsuand o se the parity of my intentions minot he 'called into question J do carafe's; that the vole , m-oeus eloopielice of the Noble Lord'has not iii terre)M the lout coy origiaal (minima. -The peo ple of this country tee/ the weight tit Pie taxes im posed on them, and expect that they wilt be applied: knowing, as they do, that this is not the case, they looked.up to reform ' • I *lab, end; hope, that reform will come from Ministers, as'a gra tuieows gift, and that, they will not wait until it tweed from them. VVlsetever may be the opinion of the Uunourable Gentlemen - opposite, this is the wish of my heart : but I will etrifess„ if they .!o not .constritbriraril and give the country i pledge that they main h ones tly, I am doubt. 'fill if Oct country will not inset on that which the apathy or want of foresight of their ser vants stidshold front "them. ( Hear Hear , Will it be denied that the taxes are heavy, mid the. people feel those taus; and however willing to subunit to the load, they wished, and not tasty wished, but would have a fair and actual diatribe tion of piitronage. They would not submit to a ' seat in their own House to be bartered (ova iVri.. !iiinship in the East India Company's senrice. If in individual had been found guilty of the charges against the Noble Viscount, he would be sin tenced to 'a punishment ; and why should his high rank excuse him ? I am of °wino'', that if this House does not show its sense of its digust!, and cast off that part which the slightest suspicion of corruption attaches, it will passim censure on it self—a stain that never could be wiped off. Tots was more m ravaged, for the per s o u was a Minis ter employ ed under the Crown. I request, 1 con jure you, as you respect yourselves, to act without party motives, and agree to the Resoluticios of the Noble Mover. It will silence those persons you deprecate, and designate as libellers. I feel con vinced that the Noble Viscount knew he was doing wrong when he first listened to this overture ; sod I cannot divest my inind, but that he was equally guilty, whether it was carried into effect or not. Mr.Jonserone supported the amendment, and . gave; his honour as a gentleman, that he believes' the Noble I'iseoutit did not act tinder corrupt motives. Mr. said a few words in favour of the amendment. Mr. Will:mast said, lie would not go the length of the Noble Mover, yet he thought there oes some blame to be attached to the conduct of the Noble Viscount. Mr. Wm rose and usoved-.-That the Resolution of the House in the year lie should be read, which was accordingly read, settiog forth that any Member of that throw bartering for a seat in Parliament was unworthy of sitting there. in. The Honouralle Member contended that the conduct of the Noble Vkinnunt came wider the cognizance of that Itetiolntion. He thee took a retrospective view of the evident e before the Committee, which he inkeuioutily and' eloquently descanted on. and concluded by saying however they voted, the spirit of Reform had takrii mash 4 prepooclerance, that it would ultimately prevail. Mr. WiIIDNAII explained. Mr. Cassino end.. that however mach they . might differ upon the present question, nod on most occasions, still a conformity of seutiosseit pre vailed on the trimmer in which the Noble Lend lid condooted hitmolf. He objected to rota for the 1 ~ -.