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Ia seer re and canal Bill, they not have troubled their Lordships at any length, had ha to nny he bdieved,rentrary tip the word of God,. lad lit set in direct opposition to the demi world be recommended not understood that his motion was to be met with some °mei. nal mines klowelf at the lane time boupd to obey the law t i to them. Another clause in the Billeamacted, that any nemon ap: Pon. This Bill had a similar object to that which had - bees land , . whets not repugnant to that word. N'either in the law 11l t Al ESSAGE FROM TH E COMMONS . Leadenhallestreet, where flea Mainers of the Association will in __,.pointed a Commissioner, let him ban attorney , or whoever he previously before their Lordships, vie. the removal from the LL. nor re that of man would he wish to force persons agiinst thence wore be conducted. M . Brogden and several other Members from the COMThelle • • mtght--and it was more than probable that attormys would gene- ttbrgy, as far as Unitarians were affected, ef those . parts of theme,- aciancea. He would not touch at length on the =whin of t4l The Proprietors are requested to call and to sign the same, any ü brought . up the Board of lytwks (Ireland) Bill, and two other ! rally act in th a t rapacity—was to have brought before him the uhe ceremony to which they could nee ceeementioesly iesee. yin, as it had been dwelt into before. Bit if this Bill id • blic Rills, the names of which we could not learn, together with I titl e deeds of estates, and all papers connected with them. It wee galore he proceeded to state to the House the relief that he pro- a law, we could not lay the flattering unction to our sou atid.sna thne between th e Hours of Ten and Four, and to bring with th em lb some rtrate Bills. the Ranker's Receipt which they hold. ' impossible that that House, showing that just regard for posed to give, he would say. that, in the performs= of the mar- thet all other Dissei.ters should not have the same Proprietors residing at • 'distance rosy sign by power of attorney, CLERKSHIP OF THE PENS (IRELAND). it always had done, could adopt the measure he had aUnded nage ceremony, two d u ties war essential the one of a civil, the ranted to them. If that again were the ease, the marriages ja ow the form of which may be bad at this Office. Mr. Tomlin. from the Treasury, presented papers relative t o to. It was impossible that the Neble and Learned Lord on the ghee of a mixed nature. He felt assured that the House would churches would be dimlnithed ; and even still he would say_ JOSEPH LOW E, Secretary. the °Rice of Clerk of the Pelle in Ireland. Woolsack could recognise such a realetrous measure. thniider lts first duty was to provide, as far as it could, against " Flat junkie rum Cerium." Winchester House, Broad-street, April I. 1624. SILK BILL. The LORD CHANCELLOR dM not wish to interrupt the clandestine marriages; and it was of the next importance, on every After ell they had heard, their Lordships should flirthZie leiii, ilan N.B. The Proprietors will please to obser v e, t hat the First The Earl of LIVERPOOL, in moving the second reading of . Noble Marquis. but it was the diet dent that he had ever heard a consideration, that this ceremony should he performed with that many of the established clergy would be redneed in their mil. Instalment will be forfeited, unless the Lyeed be signed on or before the Silk Duties Regulation Bill, observed, that it was a subject o f I debate on a Bill in progress threat* the other House of Podia- degree of solemnity and publiciti as should attach to it, in the eye mentas7 fem. Thais little biomes of the clergy ar i s i ng frosn ener . Inc 16th lus - • __ - c • • • .4 As d . * kw is Bin d •• • 6°ll •91!,1ar Instalment the V " LONDON AND EDINBU NRGHY. STEAM...PACKET COMPA Pr HE Vess-ls of the above Company COMMENCE JL their VOYAllgs fur the SEASON on WEDNESDAY, the 7th instant, fur the Conveyance of Passengers, Goods, Can. rages, At. Passenger* Landed and Received on Board of Scarborough and Tynemouth, when the 'cattle: will prnnit. The SOHO, Captain HEATSON, will start from Blackwell early on the Morning of Wednesday, the 7th instant ; and the JAMES WATT, Captain DALL, on Wednesday, the 11th instant. One of these Packets will start every Wednesday Morning, from Blackwell. London, and Newhaven, Edinburgh; and in a short time on Saturday.. A. MITCHELL. Steam-Packet OHiee, Sb, Leadeaball-eneet. EAST INDIA HOUSE. Mallen 31. Itt24. THE COURT of DIRECTORS of the UNITED COM PA NY of MERCHANTS 'S ENGLAND Trading to the EAST INDIES. do hereby give Motice, That the Committee of During and Wanduseees will be ready to receive Proposals in Writing, sealed pp, as be before Wrtir ra ms', the Wit April 11134, front such Arsons as may be willing to supply the Company with PORTFIRE CUTTERS AND CLIPPERS, AND - - BULLET MOULDS; and the Conditions of the Contract may be seen on application to the Clerk of the said Committee, with whom the Proposals must be left before eleven o'clock in the Forenoon of the said 11th Day of of April, :fur which boor the Committee will not receive any Tender. JOSEPH DART, &action. LONDON SUB-WAY COMPANY._ THE Public ;rerespectfully informed that PRINTED RECEIPTS for Deposits to this undertaking are now reads'. at the Ranking-house of Messrs. Hankey, and that a GENERAL MEETING of the PROPRIETORS will be eallad for the ap pointment of DIRECTORS and other Officers, as soon as the de posits are paid on WO Shares. JOHN WILLIAMS, Patentee. BENEVOLENT SO.:LEVI OF ST. PATRICK. Under the Patrosage of HIS MAJESTY. THE COMMITTEE of this SOCIETY most gratefully acknowledge the following BENEFACTIONS received by the Treasurer, at the Celebration of their Furty.fien Festival, on St. Patrick's Day last, ander the Presidency of his Royal Highness the Duke of YORK. The Secretary will thank. fully correct any error therein which may be pointed out to him a. His Majesty's Annual Henry Bainbridge, Esq. 21 0 Bounty . . . . 106 0 Lesley Alexander, Esq. 10 10 H. R. H. the President 106 0 John Johnston, Esq. . 10 10 The Duke of Bucking- fl.R.Dawson, Esq. M.P. 10 0 ham and Chandos, V.P. 100 0 Charles Mllarel, Esq.. 10 0 Duke of Wellington, Wm. H. Trent, Esq. . 10 10 V.P. . . . . . . 100 0 J. H. Bradshaw, Est . 10 10 Alarquis of Downshire, Henry Alexander, Lsq. 10 10 V.P. . . . . . . 29 0 George Scholey, Esq. . 0 6 Right Hon. Canning, T. Bainbridge, Esq. V.P. . . . . . . 20 0 (Ancualv . . Right. Hon. the Chau. . . .1. Ituddeil Todd, Eq. cellor of the Exchequer, Wr. Coningivain t Esq. . . . . 21 0 Richard Hone, hsq. 6 5 3 6 6 0 . 5 3 5 3 55 55 V.P. . Rt. Hn. R. Peel, V.P. . M 0 Rt. Hon. W. V. Fitzge rald, V.P. . . • • 10 0 Dowager Marchioness of Dowashire (Annual) 10 0 Marquis of Londonderry 60 0 Marquis Conyngham . 30 Marquise Lantdown . 21 0 Earl of Claawilliam . 25 0 Earl ofCionmel . . . 20 0 Esti of Besbuuougb (Annual) . . . . I II Earl of Listowel (Ann.) 6 6 Lord Viscount Temple. town . . . . . . 21 0 Lord Vise. Northland (Annual) . . . . 10 II Lord Vise. Barberton (Annual) lO 10 Lard Vise. Cliftlen . Lord Viscount Stanford 51. P. Lord Arthur Hill, M.P lO 0 The Right Hon. Henry Gonlburn, M.P. . . 21 0 The Rt. Ho. Stratford Canning lion. General Taylor lion. General Bligh . Hon. J. W. Stratford lion. George Rice S 6 Sir William Ashburn. ham. Bart. (Annual) 2 Sir C. B. Burgh, M.P. (Annual) . . . 10 10 John Smith, Esq. M.P. 21 0 U. Brownian, Esq. M.P. 10 0 W. Holmes, Esq. M.P. (Aanual) . . . . 10 0 Wm. Stuart, Esq. 31. P. 10 0 1.t.-001. 11. White, 31. P 10 IV L. Evelyn, Esq. H.P. . 10 0 A. W. Robans, Ea+ Richard Benj. Goad, kaq. . . Sam. M. Samuel, Eaq. . Wm. Coninglaam, Esq. R. W. Pulsford, Esq. . Jeffery Foot, Esq. . . M. $i . Troy, A. A. Ail:Oak, Esq. N. M. Rothschild, Esq. fieorge Thackreh, Esq. F. W. Myers Esq. I va Samail sod blares. Jones (brothers) Rey. Geo. Champagne Oliver Latham, Esq. P. PMI'S, Esq. (Ann.) Max. Keymer, Esq. . Wm. Morgan, . FAward Sterling, Lsq. . Robert pgilby, Esq. of Du van . . . . J. W. Fulton, Esq. . . Wm. Wright, Esq.. . Rey. Jas. Brownlow Lieut.. Gen. Robt. Bell Colin Campbell. Esq. . Robert Dent. Esq . N. Byrne, Esq. (Moen. ing Post) Annual . . Philip Gowan, Esq.. . Lieut.-Gen. Wetherell . Henry Roberts, Esq. . Anonymous . . . G. C. Harvey, Esq. (Annual) . . . Dr. Hume (Annual) . NVm. Lannon, Esq. . Geo. Dreyer, Esq. . . O. Gregory, Esq.. . . Edward Bell, L eq. . . S. E. Magian, Esq. . . 9 Geo. Twynam, Esq. . 2 James Kelly, Lei. , . 2 Mr. R-hinson . . . . 2 Mr. B'i'son . . . . 2 Collected at :bz tables, and tickets sold 2121. 7s. 6d. 5 6 6 6 .. 6 6 . 5 5 5 5 6 6 . 6 6 3 b Wellesley, EMI. M.P. (Annual) . . 3 5 he Select London Knot of the Friendly Bro. then of St. Patrick . 25 0 J. C. Mli 18, Qum-square, 111 All demands upon this I:hark; Secretary before the First of 3lay. charged as soot) after that da► as I 6 6 6 6 6 0 6 • 6 0 . 6 0 6 • 5 0 I Total . . £1,383. Is. tid 'HELL, Secretary, iloontsbury, 3lst March, 1824. ty are requested to be sent to the r, with a view to their being die possible. UESSKS. JACKSON and CO. ESTATE and ill.. HOC SE AGENTS, GENERAL ACCOI'NTANTS, ata beg to inform Merchant.. Tradesmen, and the Public ingene cal, that they will meet with the speediest accommodation in the Purchase and Sale of Estates and Houses of any description, and in any part of the Kingdom, on application at their Office, as be low; and that the mma intricate and deranged Accounts will be Properly corrected with the greatest despatch. Office—it, I trury-lane, near Holborn. MEETING.% OF CREDITORS, AT THE DANUDLPTi • COURT, DASINOHALL-STREET, THIS DAY. THIRD MEETINGS. tadwick, J. Holborn-hid, watchmaker . Compton, P. A. Beckenham, and Lee, Kent, farmer 4 ..er, H. Commercial-place. City-road, carpenter Ihrans, W. Reading, links, coacn-master - - bevy. 11. otherwise H. Levet, and L Levy, Baaing.lane, and Wellingtoo-p!ace, Poplar, warehou.emen - 12 Peterken, 1. Gill-street, Limehouse, Maker - 10 Pritchard, R. Regent's Circus, Osford.street, dressing-cue ropmfacturer . - - 11 - smith, T. Plckhurst-Grecn, Kent, cattle.dealer - . 10 Walker, W. Charles-atreet, 3liddlesez novital - - 12 I SECOND MEETINGS: LIVOIROINI, C. E. Ilford, linen-drapa • . Erma, G. Hastings, Swipes, jeweller . - - llamall, 0. Albany Chambers, Piccadilly, horse-drake - Iq, J. Regent.atreet, linen.dzapez . . . Mackenzie, P. and W. Sheffield, upholsterers - - , aebea, C. V. bane-street, merchant - - aanth, G. Biahopsgate-atrcet-Without, butcher - - FIRST 3IEETINGS. Ebbs. J. E. 7ti Morin, jeweller - Norris, T. Bartholomew-close, coachmaker sinderson, M. C. Park-street. Grosvenor-square, coal-merchant lit meets, R. paradise-row. Chelsea, baker - - 12 S urlingt T. Commercial-road, Lambeth. slater - - - - DIVIDENDS. Acker, J. Crutshed-Friars, wine-merchant - - Ilno.er, W. Akiffsgate-street,.jeweller - - Nistnirm, P. and Winslow, E. St. Mary's-Hill, ship and insurance brokers - - - Downman, T. and Gilley, J. Bread -street, Cheapside, ware hnicsanen - - - - r "lef. C. Crum-lied-Friars, wine-merchant - - dickman, W. and Timothy, D. Leicester-square, hosiers Knight, J. Mile-end-road, builder - - - Moiler, T. Caroline -street, Commercial-road, cooper ( *al - . W. jun. Mylne, O. and Chalmers, J. Jeffrey-square, n:ert hints - - - - . II Mansur, J. and Forster, R. Old Bread-smeet, merchants - 10 sinclso, 3. Bnw.lane, warehouseman - - 12 u V fte• t • Cloth-Fair. woollen-draper - _ . 12 " . altstA S. and Barns. T. Kidderminster, carpet-mania. Ism: ers - 12 - - - great importance, _ required much consideration . ; and he was now prepared to declare, that the more be had considered the Bill, the second reading of which he should have the hOROOr to move, the more he was convinced of its beneficial tendency. He had for some time thought the silk manufacture an artificial one, supported only by the prohibitions that were connected with it. Only a few years since he entertained these opinions ; but when he recollected that between thirty and forty thousand persons were employed in a manufacture at Birmingham, which was totally unprotected by prohibitiora which gave a fair opportunity to the principles of the free trade being exer c i se d, an d w hi c h received its mid pro quo through the op of such principles, it was naturally believed that they migh t be equally applied t o th e s ilk as to t hi s manufacture. The object Ibli Bill was to admit the manufactured article under certain sedifseattons, and the raw material free of duty altogether; and one motive for tins was, that it was desirable for other countries to improve as well es tisk. and as nearly as possible in the same ratio. Looking at the silk manufacture in all its branches, he thought this measure would nhianately be most beneficial to it, and if it were adopted must have the best effect upon trade in general. It was first proposed that the probibniem should cease in twelve months; but it was afterwards considered that alonger time might be necessary, to enable the minafacumas to accommodate them. selves to this principle, new in their trade, and a longer period was ultimately fixed upon. Another great advantage of this Bill was, that it substituted duties of a moderate description for those that might be considered a positive prohibition, by which means smug gling would be got rid of; and the alteration in the prohibition tended to check smuggling of the most detriments/ nature—that which era carried on by the hikher orders, and which was the most extensively mischievous, tin, it panishmentiellowed it, it fell on the heads of the least offemling parties, the instigators of the act being always in the back ground. If Ministers had looked only to popularity, they might have repealed other duties, the abo lition of which would have been enough to have caused their praise to be sounded from one end of the empire to the other, by interested persons ; but they had discharged th e i r d u ty better, and their cons duct, he had no doubt, would be ultimately duly appreciated. The Noble Earl concluded by moving the snood reading of the Silk Regulaedn Bill. The Marquis of LA NSDOWN observed, that it was unn:a. vary for hi:n to say h e w entirely he concurred with the Noble Earl at the bead of his Mayaty's fioverninent, in the views that he had taken in reference to the Bill before their Lordships—views that he had entertained for a long time, and which be was most happy now to see likely to be acted upon. He sincerely trusted that the pro. hibitions, when once removed, would never again find their way into the code of this country ; and he entertained, in common with the Noble Earl opposite, the most sanguine hope that the industry and capital of this country, and the more powerful machinery that would be introduced into it is consequence of this measure, would enable her to stand in competition with all the other countries with reference to this branch of manufacture. The only question that would beat all doubtful with regard to this Bill was, the time to be allowed to the manufacturers to accommodate themselves to its operation. and to enable them to provide themselves with machinery more fitted than that which theyat present used, fortheir entoringsuc ceasfully on that course of competition they would be thrown into; for the measure itself would produce such a change that the Houle might deem it necessary to enlarge the time. The Earl of LI I'EItPOM. said, across the table, that he bed meant the town of Manchester, and not Birmingham, as ha had said when he spoke of 10 or 40.0 W persona being employed In a ma. nufacture that was unprotected by p bibitions. The Bill was then read a sQoosad time, and ordered so be eoff. mind on Monday. COLONIAL SLAVERY. The Earl of CAR NARYON presented a petition from Mortebes. ter, paying for the gradual abolition of slavery in the Cobieiss the Earl of DARNLEY presented a similar petition, signed by Lleftmost respectable inhabitants of the I s le of Th a ne as did the Marquis of LANADOWN, in the absence of a Noble Friends( his, from the inhabitants of Tenbury, in Worcestershire ; and the Earl of Oast:nen, from a place the name of which we could not learn—which were severally laid on the table. IMPROVEMEN'fet ti T WINDSOR CASTLE. Lord HOLLAYD, seeing the Noble Earl In his piece, maid take the opportunity of asking him, whether that strange nmeenssis tutional measure, the Cominissioa for the improvement of Wham Castle, had been abandoned ? The Earl of LIVER POOL answered, that he was not prepared to answer the question of the Noble Baron. The measure had been submittal to his Majesty; anti if it took place, the Commis sion would be - 'fled by his 31 - appointed by n., Alajesty. TRANSIT DUTIES ON LINEN. The Marquis of LANSDOWN presented a petition from the Grand Jury or the County of Tipperary, praying their Lordships not to withdraw the duties on linens. The Earl of CLARE promoted a similar petition from the county of Limerick—which were both laid oo the table. SECRET SOCIETY AC f. The Earl of WICKLOW premnted a petition from the Free moans of Ireland. praying their Lordsiops to exempt them from the operations of the Secret SocietyAct.—Laid on the table. soe or soesety Act---iusso _ TITH E COMPOSITION ACT (IRELAND). The Marquis of LA NSDOWN said, that he held in his hand petitions on a most important subject that which related to the Tithe Composition MIL In the last Session of Parliament he did give his humble support to the measure, then brought under their Lordships' consideration, which had been long sought for by the people of Ireland, and was s measure likely to produce, in his judgment, a partial restoration of tranquillity to that country ; but he thought it necessary at that time to qualify his support, and if their Lordships would permit him, he would venture totem' their attention to his objections. He had been disinclined to come into that measure, because it bore prima facir evidence of partiality, and a leaning to one side. I n the Bill of last years power was inserted, extending the provisions of the Bill beyond the composi tion of the last seven years. He did not mean to say that the Clergy would, in all cases, receive a higher composition than they had done for that period ; but the case might acme, although none could take place in which they would receive a. lower composition. If a latitude was given on the one side, a similar latitude ought to be given on the other; and if in sonic instances the composition could be increased beyond the rate of the last seven years, it ought also to be reduced below it when necessary. This ought to be pro vided for upon this ground, if there was no other reason for it ; because it would take away from the enemies of the Bill the plau siSle and just pretence, that this Wisl3 Bill that the people might be called upon to pay more, but they could not pay less, than the com position of the last seven years. Whether it arose from the dull. ness of the Irish peasantry, or from whatever cause it originated In, he would not pretend to say; but certain it was that they did not consider it a fair - bargain, when interests on both sides ought to be farirly looked at, and they thought that only one side had been attended to. There was another clause, partaking of partiality ' . which related to the expenses of the machinery of the Bill itself. The measure was for the benefit of both parties, but the operation of it was entirely at the expense of our party. That was one of the circumstances connected with this Bill, that gave •cornplexion to the measure unfavourable to it, and led persons who were inimical to it, to assert that justice was not equally dealt out. There was some obscurity in a most important clause, that the Noble Earl opposite could remove. Almost all the operations were' made, not under the Bill, but under a clause introduced by the other House of Parliament, which was, that when the C lergy. elan and Vestry agreed on a composition of tithes, they could do so without the machinery of the other clauses being put in operation, and their decision might be final. A sum different to what was agreed upon could not be demanded ; but it might be forced upon unwilling parties, who might themselves be bound under that particular clause to accept of the composition, and be compelled to go on under a subsequent arrange. ment. It was very desirable that the point to which he had re fared should be clear in the Bill. There was one clause in the BM regulating the composition, and then the parties wishing to Wunder it were subjected to another specie' of composition, which pre it, amongst the people of Ireland, the appellation of the • Trap Clause." These difficulties might be removed by the adoption of measures more conciliatory to the feelings of the people in the course of the present Session. He bad become sc. quainted within the last tow days, through the medium of the Votes of the other House of Parliament, that they were about to propose to their Lord4hips the adoption of measures and rev's dons more subversive of eey., principle for the preservation of I , property than any that he r re leered having been introduced within the walls of Parliament. ft was impossible that they could ever pain that or any other liouse, where proprietors of land were sitting, exercising a sound discretion. It was a desire on the WI of persons receiving tithes to receive more, and on the part of those paying tithes, to pay less; and a third party, who ware guaranteed from the payment of all tithe, by their leases, and whose property 1 1 was recognised as tithe free, as much as the right of the clergy to tithes was acknowledged, were to be dragged into the payment of them in a most unjust and oppressive manner. A disposition was shown to accommodate by two strong parties—the clergy and the tithe payer--at the expense of the weaker one. He remembered stating during the last Session that he conceived the measure might produce injustice towards this third party ; but what was the answer of the Noble Earl opposite ? No such compulsion was in tended ; he said that it was impossible thr those parties to be in jured, for the holders of agistment tithe had six votes, which were more than the tithe payers possessed, sod thereforethey could always protect themselves from injustice. Six months had noselapesd before it was attempted to put the smallest holders of land on a footing with large proprietors ; so that if the Bill were to pass, the influence of property would be gone. The interest of the clergy or tithe payer could oat-rote those possessing property 6 0 6 • 6 0 6• 6 • 6 • 60 se 3 3 3 0 s• 41 a• U 111 10 10 12 10 11 The Marquis of LANSDOW34 He continuation) remarked, that in the mew he had been taking he had only been explaining the subject of the petitions that he held in his hand. But if it would be more agreeable to the Noblesad Learned Lord. by being more in unison with his ideas of order, sod to keep himself strictly within the bounds of decorum, he walk say, that he had heard that a measure such as he had desathed was contemplated some. where. He would beg to recall to the attention of the House what was stated last year relative to the averages, which were in many instances thought too high. But it ma stated then that if they did run too high, at an average of seven an opportunity would be afforded of revising them at the of three years. But by the new Bill the composition could nee be altered under seven years ; and those who were subjected to hinset remain at an excessive payment for the whole of seven prig Such enactment* were far from being a remedy for the evil* We hare so lon g afflicted Ire. land. He could assure their Lortiellipi, that in stating these objec tions he was actuated ally by a aim desire to see the peinciplei of the Bill of last year ended rein Oa erect. Although be had spoken in favour of holders of certain property in Ireland being dealt with on fair and equitable terms, and their rights being con sidered inviolate, still he should reeagrnend to them to make the patriotic sacrifice, and take their gamin this payment ; but that sacrifice *bald be of their own free will. The compulsory mea sure was not to be adopted towards ebe clergy or the tithe payer, and it was not fair to compel a weaker party, holding their property tithe-free, under rights as sacred as the clergy held their tithes, to come under these compositions. The petition, which cane from a palish in the county of Tip perary, was then read by the clerk. The Earl of LIVERPOOL observed, that after the speech just delivered by the Noble Marquis oppeette, it would be necessary for him to trouble their Lordships with a few observations. Be should not, in consequence of anything that had been said, go into discussion on the measure that had been so pointedly alluded to by the Noble 3larquia. When the other House of Parliament tho ug ht it right to introduce the Bill to their Lordships' notice, and it came regularly before them, he should he prepared to offer his sen timents upon it. Bat he would now eensider for a few minutes the measure that had passed through Parliament last Session. The House would do him the justice to reeellog, that when he proposed the second reading of the Bill, he haggled that it could be corgi. dead in no other light than as an impedes ',assure, which mold at first do no more than establish iple. It was with this view that he had declared to their I his opinion of the Bill of last Session; and it was singular thee the great difference be. tween those who opposed it and bitadr was, whether it should be eotnpulsory or not. He contended that it should not be com pulsory, and that was the great peat at issue between them. When lie looked at the probable SUM= of the Bill, he should hare said, if it had answered in twenty instances, it was as much as could be ex pected from it the first year. If it had boo suc cessful in fifty instances, he should hare said that the measure was not in universal but In general operation. He was prepared to say, under all the circumstances attending it, that the measure had suc ceeded beyond the most sanguine expegations of the opposers and supporters of the BilL In the course elite operation, one tenth of the country had bean included, for 278 parishes had taken advan tage of it. The Marquis of LANSDOWN digested. The Earl of LIVERPeIOL, in continuation, said that the Noble Marquis would find that a grater number of parishes had been led to the adoption of this Bill by the Clergy than by the tithe payers. There had Items 23 new applies/dem and 1H a to since the meeting of Parliament on the 3d of re;oaary. With regard to what the Noble Marquis bad said as b tile Clergy claiming more under the composition in woe instances, with reference to the Bill, than they would otherwise receive, hi would only say, that less than their right they could not receive. He would allow that they would do more wisely not to claim theft full tight on many occa sions; but dealing with it as a quesdea of property, they were bound to make the whole extent of their claim. They had no alternative; it was not optional with them; they could, under that view oldie case,do no otherwise than deolposi the whole that was their does. He thought it right sr gas dee Commissioners the power that had been complained of; without they were to be mere non entities, they must possess it, and less mold not be given to them. Looking at the whole course of the transaction upon the meat ex tended view, be would maintain that it had succeeded ; and he would ask if it had not operated liberally towards the tithe payer ? According to the papers that had been presented relative to this Act, the accuracy of which he had no reason to doubt, the tithe payers bad been treated most liberally. As far as the account had been made out, it was most satisfactory. Ten places were included in it in various dioceses, and it appeared by it that in the diocese of Cashel the tithes were let at Is. 3d. per acre English. In the diocese of Clonfert the whole had been dime at Pa ; in the diocese of Elphin they were at I id. and in that of Meath at Ild. This was the state of the question where the returns had been made out, and he had given them as a proof how reasonable were the demands of the clergy. He would not trouble their Lordships further to deed, he was incapable of doing so from the state of his health ; but he could not help repeating, that this measure had succeeded as far as it had been tried, a nd be hoped that he had clearly proved in a degree far beyond doubt. The petition was then laid on the table. Lord KINGSTON, in presenting a petition from Templecarick, against the compulsory clauses in the Adjustment of Tithes Bill, took occasion to observe, that in the neighbourhood where he re sided the rector refused to allow 701. a year to a curate, and ob jected also to the building of an additional church. There were only four clergymen in that neighbourhood to preside over thirteen parishes, the consequence of which was, that all those who were Protestants had become Catholics, actually from the want of a place in which they might hear divine service, and rather than I give up their attendance altogether they had preferred going to DIEM,. Lord KING regretted to see such a petition as that now brought forward presented to their Lordships, recollecting the sums of money that had been voted for the building of churches, and the House must be sorely vexed to hear such a petition ; but it seemed now that the clergy were in arrear. He hoped that some one on ' the opposite side of the Muse would stand up to defend the clergyman whose conduct had been arraigned. lie thought it un fair that one should be singled out, where it wax notorious there were so many delinquents. The petition was then ordered to lie on the table. Lord KINGSTON presented similar petitions from the parishes of Kilbeggin, Ballymandel, and Marchestown, in the county of Cork. —Laid on the table. Lord KIN(i&TON observed, that if it were necessary he could bring forward persons to swear that they were obliged to change their religion for want of Protestant places of worship. Lord CLARE, in allusion to the operation of the Tithe Com position Dill, remarked, that he considered the property of the church to be as sacred as the property of any other body or indivi dual and he regarded the measure then under discussion to be essential to the salvation of that property. Lord DARNLEY Minutest that the clergyman did not receive the full amount of his tithe in Ireland, and he was not surprised at it, after the declaration that the House had heard from the Noble Lord on his left (Lord Kingston). That Noble lord had made use of the mast incontrovertible argument, and had laid before the House matters of fact, which it was impossible to refute, and to which be should have occasion to advert when he brought that sub ject forward on Monday next. He certainly did not concur in a ll sub ject at had been said by the Noble Lord (Lord Clare) relative to thurch property, but the time was now arrived when the subject emust undergo a full and thorough investigation. Lord KINGSTON suggested that a Commission should be sent to Ireland (similar to that which had been sent to inquire into the duties of the Excise and Customs, and he considered the church establishment to be of far greater importance), to ascertain the truth of what he had stated, with rtgard to the non-resldence of the clergy, and the number of unions of paiislies that bad taken place in consequence. Lord LIVERPOOL requested that the Noble Earl (Darnley) would postpone the motion to which he had alluded, front Monday till Thursday. Lord D.t RNLEV acceded to the request of the Noble Earl (Li verpool), with the understanding that it should come on on that day, as number of his Noble Friends, who were anxious to be resent at the discussion, were detained in town for that purpose. The Noble Lord then moved for a return of the number of per sons who had been tried fur minder at the Assizes for King's County'during the last year, specifying their names.—Onlered. Lord HA R ROW ll V (adverting to the suggestion of hie Noble Friend, the Earl of Liverpool) put It to the Noble Earl (Darnley), I if the purposes of his motion would not be better answered by its postponement till some time after Easter, as the House would then be in possession of papers elucidatory of the state of Ireland, and which he thought might be beneficial to the motion itself. Lord DARNLEY said that, for the reasons he had already given, he could not accede to the proposition of the Noble Earl, but that he should persevere in bringing it on on Thursday next. Loud KINGSTON moved, that a return should be made from the Irish Court of Exchequer, stating whether Thoinas Mostyn, who had filled the office of sub-sherifrof the county of Sligo, had taken the oaths necessary to qualify him fur that office in that or any Court of Justice in Ireland. A conversation took place between the Lord Chancellor. Lord Holland, and Lord liarrowby, as to the regularity of the above motion. After which Lord KINGSTON *greed in withdraw it, for the purpose of shaping it in a leas objectionable form. MARRIAGE OF UNITARIANS. Ltd LA ----- to move the see md degree 01 of the world, the moat lasting effects. He did not desire to speak at all disrespectfully of existing institutions, and he begged that in what he was about to urge he might not be misunderstood. He had stated that his object was to provide chieky against &lades tine marriages, and after that it was his intention to give to Dis senters, in the performance of this ceremony, every facility they could require, with as little hindrance SA possible that might arke ht point of form. It was on that ground that he thought it sums nary to adopt the provisions of the Bill, and he was desirous of explaining himself distinctly, as it had been stated that he wished to propose alterations in the Liturgy. So far from that, it was his intention to leave that part of the ceremony untouched. He was sure that Noble Lords would not require that the celebration of the marriage ceremony, by a deaf of persons is end by Is.. should be made a vehicle of violating the eesselennee of shoes people, by compelling them to **nib , a feeling whieb the WI is other respects did nut call on them to signify ; and it was that that important contract should be made iq {mans'" meet binding' on their consciences , that it ought to take plass in the way that de parties interested' considered as the Need biding. I r l i e w = that the proper security should be takeaketheikur of the ceremony, and that the fees and deal to the Mime ehenhl be regularly made ; and that after those Magi had hen emplied with, the parties should be married in their min chapels. He felt that the measure would have been more satisfactory if k could have included all classes of Dissenters; btu he spoke fiens rience that such a course would have been impractical/in It yi been stated from a quarter to which he always felt disyneal ideas the greatest attention, that the objections of on WA= dodo were merely formal, and that therefore the in alt bound to relieve therm It was then urged that the individuals whose dissent from the Protestant Hstablislunent took the widest rage, _previsions might be made to meet their objecti end diis RBI eseerilingly provided for those who its fore uiea the strongest reasons to dissent. Now, the Bill on their Lefeag table provided that the pieces of worship of theorising.* Unitarians should be registered, and that after kik been registered for one year, upon . due notice, and the pa of might be there in celebrated. It provided olio spied guy fraud or collusion in the performance of the ceremony, es it awarded a punishment against a minister who celebrated marriage otherwise than in the form prescribed by the Act. The extent of I ads punishment was not defined, as he had left it to be filled up by the Committee, in case the Bill should proceed so far; but he ' should suggest that it might be transportation for life. Now, al though the promoters of that Bill had exerted all their ingenuity to prevent clandestine marriages, yet, if in the Committee any add. Bond security should be suggested, there would be no difficulty* Inserting it. He bad now touched on all the principal femesse Ice the Bill, and he hoped that he should not bear it objeolagthat she parties were so far removed from the Church of Engleal mita dor serve no relief; that could be no reason for withholding it, beans being tolerated by law, the law ought to furnish them wish she full means of enjoying their scruples, and not compel them WM against diem ; stating as they did, most solemnly, that it we has. possible for them, conscientiously, to assent to the language a die ceremony. lie could not nnusive what objection could - be Asia to the passing of this Bill, unless it was contended that Unftailass were out of the pale of society, or that they should not marry et all ; or it might be intended to enact a penalty for the feelings of conscience, which, the law not only tolerated but respected. He had endeavoured to confine himself as much as possible in explaining the objects of the Bill, and he should now move that it be read a second time. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY was of opinion, that the mode of giving relief to the Unitarians, as proposed by the pro. sent Bill, was very objectionable. The Bill that had been before brought in proceeded on a different principle; that Bill, on Its second reading, was supported by many of their Lordships, among wham he was one; it was opposed by others, and opposed success fully. lie conceived that there were but two methods of giving relief to the Unitarians—by enabling them to intermarry agreeably to their own form, am alter the Liturgy to their mode of feeling : to the last method he objected most decidedly. He was told that ao shasotion in the Liturgy was bonded, that it wars merely meant to omit a prayer . or two, but that nothing was to be subtler toted ; but lie conceived that alterations might be as broadly brought about by omission as by substitution; and it must of course be intended to omit all those parts relative to the Tri nity, and thereby make the Church the handmaid to dissent, which he thought never ought to be conceded. The Noble Mar quis had said, that he was anxious to admit other Dissenters to this favour; now he could not admit that this could be called a favour. Scruples of conscience were the ground-work of what was to be granted ; if those scruples did exist, and he really believed they did, he thought they ought to be relieved; but he still thought that the publication of banns should take place in the parish church. The Unitarian chapel might be ten miles from the parish church : this would open a door to clandestine marriages. No place was so fitted for the celebration of the marriage as the church, as it imparted a solemnity to the proceeding which it could not derive from any other place. He coacluded by stating tbs., he should vote for the second reading, as he was favourable to Om Bill going into a Committee. The LORD CHANCELLOR began by observing that the deep interest he felt for the preservation of the Protestant re ligion must be taken as his apology for addressing the House on the present question. When he came to look at the principles on which the Bill rested, lie thought they presented matter for deep and grace consideration. If he understood general words at all in discussing the doctrines which the Church of England maintained and supported, he was net to enter into speculations of individuals about the doctrine of the Trinity, and these denial of it. He thought that their first inquiry should be as to whether those speculations were not illegal. The Bth and 10th of William 111. were misunderstood; if it was supposed that the repeal of those Acts made the denial of the Trinity perfectly legal, it was incumbent on the friends and supporters of the Bill then before their Lord ships, to remove all doubts on that subject. In the recital of the preamble of that Act it would be found to contain nothing more than the common law of the land, and it was remarkable that the Scotch Act, published about the same period, made the denial of the doctrine of the Trinity highly penal, and punished it very severely. He had no idea that in repealing that Act of they were repealing the common law of the land. He fell that he was called on so make that statement, and that it was the business of those who now came forward to support the Unitarians, to re move those impressions. Suppose there was no common law on the subject, still his objection was the same; those who denied the' doctrine of the Trinity could not reconcile their religious opinions with those of the Church of England. It might be said that there were Jews and Quakers who formed no pain or the Church of Eng land ; this was true, and let those who denied the doctrine of the Trinity withdraw themselves from the establishment altogether. If there was one doctrine more essential to the Church of England than another, it was the doctrine of the Trinity. For the reasons that he had dated, however, he would nut give his consent to the passing of any Bill similar to the present. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that if the question came to a division he should vote for the second reading, and kr the Bill's going into a Committee; but if the Bill came out of the Com mittee in its present shape he should oppose It. lie was inclined to grant relief to Uni 'wad Unitarians, in the same man. ner that be would grant it to ews or to Quakers • sod by so doing the consciences of the Dissenters would be respected, and the reh gion of the State upheld. The relief that he proposed should be given where both parties were Unitarians, but where one party was Unitarian, and the o th er of the Established Church, there the re remony should be twice gone through, as in other cases,--Catholic and Protestant foe instance,—to render it valid. If the Bill should come out of the Committee so modified, he would give it his support. The Bishop of CHESTER declared himself friendly to every principle of civil and religious liberty ; in those principles he had been bred and educated, and he now *Measly said that—" dual hos Spiritus elegat arta"— he would as sincerely continue in them. No human laws either could or should restrain the natural pato guise of man.--his power of thinking; and the question now he. fore them, he was happy Co say, was not one of doctrine, but merely one of discipline. The principles upon which he had always acted were those which were put forward by a great and eloquent Divine, who needed no eulogium from him or any other individual —he alluded to the great and eloquent Dr. Paley, who was such an ornament to this country. If, however, a state religion were fie aviary—And being necessary, was established--all its peculiarities and privileges should be preserved inviolate and intact- The mea. sure now before them principally related to the ceremony of marriage, which was both a civil and religious ordinance, or at least was so con sidered by the Church of England. Supposing, then, as all must sup pose, that the Church, founded in Scripture, was the true Church, it must be admitted to be essential to the interests of siciety, that all persona should be obedient to the Church ; and thence he saw no reason why the Unitarians should particularly complain. The fair way to view this question was, first, to what was the Unita rian bound to subscribe? He was bound to repels', " with this ring I thee wed, in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy (Thom and he asked, were not these the words of Scripture? lie be lieved they were, and so the Unitarian believed. Our liturgy was like our Articles, scriptural and generous, and to be in terpreted as each person thought proper. But if any objec tion were made to these words, he could only say the objec tion was strange in the Unitarian, who made use of than in bap tism. They were also used by him in some other ceremonies; and so far then the Unitarian had no just cause of complaint. The Church of England after added her benediction ; but he would ask if the Unitarian did not think himself the better for receiving the blessing of that Deity whom they as alike adored There was no force, no compulsion on the I. who might Interpret that .., shat mentary in.._ __,, arising from afar : riga should not be teas! oil ism, especially am they were Peld i a pious andlaborions inibibetof respecuth'.• Individuals fit by friendly to Wishner tokwation l but has Obnertfition of the i ii, :t h id, duced him to think those pasterns w h o most clainoured ibt • 0 opinion were not the most dlepated to slide the different* it . N.. neon in chem. He was amities Plato scd meta writes. Ile in what be had oil be had given no offence; and he wooig; conclude by stating, with all his heart, Nitioniis kzes Eceksfik; molest. Lord HARROWBY a dd, that no man Would loom; sipidid this measure than himself, if he thought it calculated to injure die Established Church. He had heard that the Unitarians in out ear ice used ••• in the name of the Father," hi Mentor, " lord the 1111114 of the Father," and he must say he could not conceive air retinal difference between them, plthough the Unitarian/ gild their. cos mine& were pressed on die difference. The object for shed t ;,bad: dip he ese was, whether the scruple Wit cm which might, be non =entertained. Senses the siatiaeo amescing oil tei he di NOW of Staliemet Rub some answer, tfhidi vel meld not heat, was given by the Lord Chance ll orj. Matridge, as emesusidered it, was a civil contract, to which was ;Soli • nth eolinion. In order to make it binding sta the iinsotate td its donee. They now, &Meyer, proposed to best" br "fra that very doctrine which alone made thdee Undarith cos. ssiendbusly discharge the duties they ctintenixed be enterio into matrimony. He would object to malting the Establisbeil Church subsidiary to the marringee of the Distends, Mitt he did eft see thee such nu the case. It was not in the eiciatastical, but the WI capacity of the State, that the register, of the pith where the marripe took place : was nos to be found. The inffilkatioa r of the bums in the church was not as good it security agate* clam destine marriages, as if they were also pub fished in the chapels of the Disinters. He wished topro-note the dignity, and the ad vancement 6f the Established Church. a nd as th e Hill now was, hi Mai oppose it. If, however, is Were properly altered in the Ceen sidNee, an mild lee oo reasonable objection to it. flaring te legation should he promoted as Well ucifil, and de this Bill, in big ' vim of 14 bid only the promotion of such desirable objoets, ft ial whit the exception he had already nude, obtain the sanc.. tier of ready approbation. Lord CALTHORPH did not with to hale say hid, of men phased in their consciences i but the church estabhabniept owed it so herself, strong as she was, to reline respectable individual, if she Was setithed that such toleration would lead to no lithdry to her awn in She should not force othets against their conscience!: but at ' same time rot to tolerate opinions hoot& to the funda mental of the church. He b e li eve d, wi t h t h e N o bl e m e a d L Learned Lord on the Woolsack, that the doctrine of the Trinity wee interwoven with our existence, and was the substratunt of be ponce. dignity, end importance; Inn still preventing her beetng Say outdid oo.operation with the Unitarians. He believed Stony aneengst, them to be good tnen, who were din limend in the mane of liberty and humanity ; bet he was cit Wei to their laminable opinions, which were against el idilliesty, 011 the grace, and hope of Christbn eonsolation,berselloe. 'their opinion were against the Scripttues ; and thouel wet onion in life were amiable and pious, be still could ant bat bent= they were from being scriptural Christiana. The Chirehof England maintained the doctrine of the Trinity, not al kipsailsOni memo of grace, bat as the active cause of every good. ik Inima. ad the iron of the Unitarians, but still he allowed every mis t lsus the subject of religion, to think for himself.. As a mow or 'judos to the superior purity of out church., and imp me.- 1 dittoing, he thought they were perfectly right esesei eh dle silt generally from the Unitarians on the subjoins, the Such an avowal should not be withheld on art ereinice present. He thanked the Right Rev. Prelates for ob any alteration in our marriage service, for he thought if R be made it would be full of danger to the church establialmer" on is example it would have been had, hectic it would Minna MM. spect upoa that holy Liturgy which he . rected only Ws dinalbe Holy M'ord of God himself. He thorst thanhad the Hew. Beel so fer ai dz i reitien they Ned. exptseasiff of ear ustuneiet mieteles mei '11 . 24 niabiail were subjected. soaiiteed NOM sec end . Ow tinsoladeas necessary to sustain them than those profaned by the Visitations. They were not like ether sects, whose religion was in a great measure made up of ceremonies and rites, whisk hod secured for their church so much respect from the people. Hs would, however, support the present Bill. so far as to let it go into a Committee, but beyond that he was not now prepared es ad vised to go. The Liar' of WESTMORLAND said he altogether objected to the principle of this measure, not to the toleration of all hosed faith and morals 1 but be opposed it beceause it sought to give partial benefit against the law. of the land and the church. Akin non was made to the Quakers and the Jews ; and if alterations were to be made, and if privileges were granted to the Unitsthis now, all, he thought, should be included. This Bill went to alter the regulations of and also to make the church the handmaid of the Unitarians. he church should not be made the advertiser of such marriages; and if the law says that all ease risges are to be solemnized in the church, he saw no reason why cue class of persons should be exempted from its operation. He objected to the principle of the Bill, both looking to its ecclesias tical and civil bearing, and did not see how those persons who cos. tiered the existence of the Protestant church necessary to the security of our liberty and property, could at once become friendly to a measure which be was firmly persuaded would have a direct uodency to endanger both. Holding these opinions, he should seta against the ascend reading the Bill. The Bishop of LONDON begged very briefly to replan his reasons foe the support of this Bill. The policy ad allowing mat rices to be celebrated in the churches was good, not only for the incidental benefits of securing a sacred ceremony, and great pub licity, but for much higher objects and considerations. If a man, however, came to be married in the Church, he did not thereby sabeeribe to the doctrines of the Church ; and if the law of die Lad was not violated, he saw no reason why the conscientious seenyies of persons differing from the Established Church should rest be attended to. Persons coming into the Church were not bored to make any profession of faith, nor subscribe to any ?sa tiable ankles. They were married—•• In the name of the Father, Sea. and Holy Ghost," and lie did not think they were entitled to interpret the meanings of these words as they thought proper. The ' smpples of the Unltaiilllo. TIM not to overbear all notions of po- H*; and they should certainly give us security that their mar tillgel were performed with decency, and the practice of all fraud prevented in obtaining licences, as well as all fraud in the actual celebration of mamage. M ith respect to the permis sion to Jews and Quakers, it was only extended where bolt parties were Jews and Quakers, bar rot when one of the coo tutting parties was of the EstablishedsChurch. In these eases there existed securities which the Unitarians bad nut yet offered, and which should be obtained before they received any further be nefits. In the case of the marriage of the Jews, there were great securities . • In their religion—in their witnesses required to see it performed--in the very rites and ceremonies which attended it t and it was only very recently that a Jewish marriage was set aside, in consequence of the insufficiency of witnesses. Their very language of itself WWI a certain degree of security, and, besides that, they were all obliged to be registered according vs , their own regula•ions. He never met with any danger result. ing from the toleration extended to them, or to the sect known byethe denomination of Quakers. The Unitarians only objected to our marriage ceremony ; in all others they concurred with us . • and, as yet, they had o ff ered no security that proper plates would be appointed for the celebration of marriage, nor for the respectability of the ministers, nor the decency ells a lmiait tea don. If all these matters ere not fully attended to in the Ctrntnit tee, he would feel it his duty to oppoee the Bill. And a word with respect to the diminution of the fees of the clergyman; and although it was a matter proper to be considered, yet he thought it of little comparative value to the loss of persons professing the established faith. The performance of the marriage ceretnorty was often the most grateful ceremony which could be performed ;—it ' was often the cause of our associating with it a great degree of bene volence between the pities, and this Bill would go to make the Pmustant clergyman look like a tax collector. He would not girt a premium to any man to be a Dissenter, though he would not maks his being one the ground of any act of injustice against him ; but in conferring benefits, care should be taken that the best interests of our own establiihnieut were not surrendered to hint upon mitt taken views of religious or civil toleration. He saw no danger front the recognition of the principle contained in the Bill before them • but to some of its clauses he had very strong objection.. He hid no objection to the second reading of t'e Bdl, or to its going into a Committ se, where he hoped that its licensing clause would be altogether omitted, and certain other alterations made, which, while conferring a boon upon the Unitarians, would not make the Established Church subsidiary to the views of any class of persons who might even conscientiously dissent from her long established, wholesome, and Christian doctrines. _ _ '1 Lord HOLLAND said that the principle of this Bill was so clearly stated by bier Noble Friend (the Marquis of Lowdown), tint little was left him to say upon that subject. He also thought that the heads of the Chow& of England deserved praise for the senti ments they had uttered, far they were, with few exception,, senti ments reflecting bower en those who uttered them, and replete with Christian charity. The principle then in his view being established, it only remained for him to consider a few of the obi jections made to It by his Noble and Learned Friend on the Wools sack, and also by the Learned Prelate (the Bishop of Cht-ta). It was in the first place seaman to coil upon his Noble ea, learned Friend, to state more fully his objections, and above all as offer s-mc explanation of than for more strange °bite ions Fe ha: , never heard. There was a feeling very common in all phe a e to l i ' tot etattiog their; Lordships Hum, alisl it was this, that WIN 01 f .