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bad; attd, therefore, such anianatinosni than ought to bare been followed IP/kb some degree of proof; for it could not otherwise be made with any other intention than tothiew odium upon the iuda ridual who should venture to nee, in order to •oc cuse soy person of high rank and influence its:the country. With regard to jaeohinisno, he eheidd 'meanie that there were we ifteliollo of that dacrip, t siniring in thin country, who would. choose to come forward boldly to discover tbeir,wisher ; hut Ilitherdesire, by a contrary conduit, that corruption would be allowed to flourish till it overthrew the state. His object solely whe a ts cheek it wherever and whenever it first discovered itself, and by that means to render a service to his country. One strosig asser tion made by an Hon. Gent. he mild not no ticing, as it certainty seeined to make no imaaisi durable impression upon the House. It Watt, that, alter en acquaintance of moor years close intimacy with the Commander-in-Chief, he, the perms's he alluded to, wenll . l take it upon himself to say, t h at it. acs impossible such a transaction as that ahieh lie Cilr. Wanill had pointed out, could have hi en • carried at, vvitaout his knowledge; and theiefore tile assertions he made intiat be perfectly false. Now he would take it upon himself to prove, that pecuniary Impactions of a similar nature to those he had stated had been cirri( d on w ithout that Gentleman ' s knowledge, mid that they were the chief ground of separation lietweetia certain Lady and the Commander-in-Chief. prove that partiruler, in order to do away any such tower tiosss from such a quarter. Ile was fully aware of till the difficulties he had to cocountvr, in bringing this forward, nod how much it was the interest of e•-cry Member of the House to le-an to the side of t e Commander-in -Chief, tither than to that of an accuser. —/Cry of No! 11 . 0 No !J—After the eel dilice lie should adduce were heard, lie still had li Sties that nothing could induce the Ilonfte to act c ' ierwise that what would he thought most prover tor the good of the country. He melanoma! these thing, that use unsrepresetitation should go folds to the mad ill order to throw hisis.elf upon the justice of the House, under all the difficulties lie had to encounter. Mr. Yott:f.E 16:10, stS hi' prominiel he is one of the indiiitluati alluded to, hr say iss isisswer to the Hon. Gentleman's ob.:ere:ins ie., that lie haul not the smallest imention rf making any p , !rS4.111:11 allth ; 01) to hint for h'. emoluet usossi as to his Boyal Ili hues. Althou 4 ss Ise thought that Him. Gentleman hail 1.1.0.ie1l 111.011 IlilUtA eery great responsiiiility. vet i.e was convinced It,. r Alter devo yell well of I conistr to: having hrought the whole matter of the rumoured iliarges ibrwurd in a tangible shape. W'hat lie had said is regard to the lieentionsticas of the press, were ob. se , vations that were oassiag in every hod)'s mind, avid co sorqwmtiv he tl sttered Innaself the Commit tee weals! think he meant no personal allusions Goon the Hon. Gesstletiaan, new upon any parts cola; individual. Colour' WAsni.t expressed' himself satisfied ; and then said he ahroild now proceed to investigate end to adduce evidence in support of his ebarge R against his Royal Highness the Commander-in- Chief, relative to the exchange effected between Lieutenant-Colonel Brook, of the Dragoon Guards, and Lieutenant-Colonel %light. I . rev-Musty to doing so, he should produce The Ca s sette of ' July 30, 1805, in which that exchange r..as stared to have taken plaee.—This Cozens was aleurdiugly produced and read. Colonel WARDLE them called his first witness anon this charge: Dr. Andreae Thyorne--(lnterrogated by Colonel Question. Did you ilttristl * Mrs. Clarke, in your professional capacity, in July, 805 ?—A uswer. 1 Kneaded Mrs. Clarke during the last seven years. I do not recollect the year DM ttkittitulariy, or more than oily other, but I know I sitteoneu her . during that time in particular situ:aux:ls. Q. Did Tim ever, ivy the draire of airy person, apply to her retort - ling nn exchange betueen Lieut.-Colonel Brook and Kinght ? A. I did tepply to Mrs. Clarke respecting that ex change. The app!;catimi I made was in conse quence of one made to me by an old friend of mute, Mr. Robert lioight, the brother of one of these geid+ mein requesting me to speak to Mrs. Clarke upon the sul+j-et. Q. What ?Rued upon that sul i ieet between you and Mrs. Clarke ?—A.. I was atitlitnised to tell Mrs. Clarke, Sisal bile would receive a certain ram of money, if she mould use h, r inter. , t to e \- peditt this 1 s l nrsslird t h e sill., sus Q. Fur what 'impure wee that SUM N10 , 11 ' 041, or what statimient n us inaile neon that orca,oni .1. It we, in order its 'Mime Mrs. Clarke to expedite that 1AC11.111141 . , Willett war to take ' illiate in the V* nr °nice, 5l• sues, at lays impt.iiiiients were •s -p eetral; r to promote or expodite it that I as aiillsort.4%l to offer her that ruin, if she would use her niter. st to do so. Thrniui,li what 10e4111111 W 3,4 it expected that she should obtaili diet exchatee 1 eanistit is.ver that questam ; but I am cute It was ;recta) , wen known. 1 know within.; more iif it, than tl.at I .ich tiered a mesa e, as trim all -4 , 1 frica I, to de We Lear to expedite the I'M h4tlg , of the toot tillterrs. Q. Was it Out It , -oneitlrtati,,ii of her bemg der the protects.,o ut ta eaeounadif th.t "sell wt a;. - 4. at - ion war matte to her'.--.t. I if novae, if Mrs. Clark• bait not bent ilssui,ost als:e tae exiealite the Niiplia soon would' Sower !.ee,l he to her. Ito ., mans day; elapr...l ( vetoer,' , be ~14.!; cailo7l to : ; 11, 5 . lag Ste. a 111 the .5 Am' ze visible in he Chortle i ally cannot ,:,•- curate in that tirve , :, as thili It:Illelltbfrell de livermg tits lIIPSOOgP I I.;c6e. (4. 1),:i it a (saw within a few far. or a re - k ? A. I protest I ramint bear it is oohed ; Litt I le.- Itcve it was a ! ' irtaa.itt or thrc.• . he fare it took i s!aee. I had s othi:l 4 more to da ssia: it titan tn.-Tele to deliver Ow tness , .l4.• ; : ,,,t 06, 4 accutliing to soy nem - at:one, it made ier intirressioa on mai. (4. Did Mrs. Clarke communicate Ow ti u. t . nnlinage Irving Ilarriitr , fl:—.A. )Irk. Gazrtte to on loins., in comer. (rear ,. wit,l:l„.:,e I delivered to her ; and the teoinetit I r,xeiired It, I'-rut it to the party ; hut sae ieveseed uo rummy from my hand: Q. Did Mr. Ro' kr rt alone authorise the witness to oar the 2.001. or was Lieutenant. Csitieslitateg, WI brother. a party to it-,AII. was entirely influenced b 7 Mr. Robert Knight ; his lady was en old patient Of tnine.end be was an old friend ; I know little of his brother. • Q. Am I to understand 'that Lieut.-Colonel Knight was, or was not present when you were authorised to offer 2noi. ?—A. I cannot say ; I was sometimes in company with him, and sometimes with Isis brother; and, after three or four yixtrs, I connot possibly recollect the particulars ; but I was influenced by Mr. Robert Knight, whom I had a great regard for. (By Sir F. BURDETT.) Q. Did you request Mrs. Clarke to apply to the Unice of York to expedite the pminotiom of Lieut. Col. Knight ?—A. 1 could not have applied to 'Alrs.'Clarke, unless she had the mean* of expe diting thtblrusiness. Q. 'Haw did you understand that Mrs. Clarke had the means of expediting it?* Ilere the witness was ordered to withdraw ; and it was suggested bybye Member on the Mitsiste vial side, that the alines, should be admonished by theChairman,not to state any thing from surmises, but merely facts a haoletely within his own know ledge. The witness was then brought back, and •he an swered the above question by sa applied to Mr*. Clarke to heg her to interest hrs.:Jeff in behalf of Lieutenant-Colonel Knight, to expedite the ex change ; I think I did afterwards request her to apply to the Duke of York to expedite that exchange, and it was for that sole powose that 2001. was given. Q. In your first conversation was the name of the Duke of York mentioned?—A. I am sure I cannot recollect, and I C3lllllot Like upon myself to say so. t.. Was your application to Mrs. Clarke merely to expedite the exchange, without mentioning any particular in which it might be done?—A. Cer tainly, without mentioning any particular manner. It was pretty well known that' she was acquainted with an Illustrious Personage at that time. (By Sir J. HALL.) • Whlin do you mean by that great personage ? —.I. I certainly supposed it was the Commander in-Chief, of courve. _ _ Q. Did you give any natnea in writing to Mrs. Clarke?—A. I believe I gave in, upon a bit of paper, or blie herself wrote upon it, the names of Lieutenant-Colontl Knight and Lieutenant-Co loucl Brook. (Di Sir T. Tu RTO N.) Q• Did Sirs. Clarke conituunicate to yin that the exchange laud been obtained by her means : A• That Gazette I sent to the parties, Nitll the note with whi•la I.lte aertenonieil it, Roll which 'hued that the exchange was accomplish, d, and that, ;as she was :•. oalig out of town in a tidy or two, the .2001. mould lie very conve:aient. Q. Are lion certain that those were the whole contents of the note ?—A. 'that was the imprest-ion on any stood at the time, and it is so still, though now three or *WIT years since. Q. Did 31re. Clarke. !hat lWri'xl,eimmn nicate to you that ii vas uhiaiueii through her means?—A. Mts. Clarke iwver said to cue any thing more upon that subject after communicating The Gazette: but I belielve it was expedited by her means. Q. Flare you preserved that note ?—A. No, I have not preserved it, for I have raid I scut it with The Gantt& (By Mr. Omuta.) Q. Have you tiny reason besides your own sur mises. for hung' tbut this exchun A e was ex pedited throughi soy other medium Mau that of Mrs. Clarke? Here Mr. WlLtaTotr. the Chairman, repeated the caution he formerly gave the witness, not to speak to facts beyond his own knowledge ; and some discussion took place between Sir Charles Burrell, Mr. Lyttleton, and the Attorney-General, relative to the propriety of interrupting the Witness so fre quently. The latter of these. Gentlemen said it was irregular to titivation a Witness. either in that Houss, or the Courts of Law, as to any thing but facts within his own knowledge. If it were meant to attach criminality to a person by conversations of the nature the Witness was alluding to, it was not competent to interrogate him as to whom he meant by the Illustrious Personage, as they were nut to he guided by his construction of these words. They were to prove such points by other W itnesses. Q. Ilad you any reason besides soar own sur mises for believing that this exchange was expedited by any other interference than that of Mrs. Clarke? —A. I understood that it was in the course of being obtained in the regular way. but Mr./X . 141u, iu el) nsvittence of ill health, or some other revaoll. 4 . 11,4 anxious it should be expedited. I know of no other reason upon earth. (By Colonel WARDI.I.) Q. Did you not know that Mrs. Clarke was liv im• aith the Duke of York, and under his intuit.- 47:.: protection s—A. It was so uuderstood at the time. (Ity Mr. LAMBE.) Q. Difi you tier see the Commander-in-Chief at tile. Chirke'b?--A. 1 never naw the Dula ni t'urk there in my tilt.. (By ; Mr. WILBERFORCE.) ' Q. Does the witness recollect VI.: manner in which the proposition was first made, in engaging Mrs. Clarke's interest?—A. When I tirstispoke to Mrs. Clarke. she seamed to thii.k there were some difficulties in the way. sod Inoue., at the danger she would risk if it ever transpired. (By Mr. PERCEVAL) Q. Do you recollect what words she used upon th a t OCCilsloll ?—A. It is impossible fur me at this illitAitcr of time to recollect the precise words. but the maiming of thorn I perfectly understood to be as I have stated. (Ify Mr. BEILISTORD.) Q. Did sLe mean to keep it • secret from the Duke of I( ork us well as from the world ?—A. That is a 'natter of surtnise.--(A.faxgh.) Q. Did you undenbunt that the exchange was lit a train of being effected previoun to Mrs. tla rice's influence being solicited P—A. I under stood that the thing would have happened in the course of time. hat Mr. Knight wished it to be ex pedited, I know not from what motives. It was on account of his expressing such s wish that lapplied to Mrs. Clarke. The matter pealed through the Office in the regular W my. • . The second wittier' whole Mr. Waiting celled and interrogiited. wits Robert Kiii#ht, El. of Burrell& Q. Did you desire Dr. rhyme to use his in fluence with Mrs. Clarke to carry into effect the exchange between Lieuteuaut-Coloneli Brook red Knight N.-A. Idid. Q. Did you authorise Dr. Thynne to hold out Ally pecuniary tawptatiou to Mrs. (:larke, to induce her to carry that point ?—A. Yew Q. To what amount did sou authorise the Doctor to make an offer ?—A. .2001. Q. After the exchange was elf( vied, did you. by yourself, or any other person, send any sutu tuo ney to Mrs. Clarke?—A. Yes. Q. To what amount have already answer ed that question, by stating :tool. Q. Had Lieutenant-Colonel Knight any tire promise frem the Commander-in-Chief as to this exchange with Colonel Brook. of your °an knowledge, prior to this application to Mrs. Clink —A. My brother applied iu thg regular way to the Duke of York, and received the usual an swer, that whenever a proper successor could be foam!, there would be no objection to the ex change taking place. Q. I wish to know, whether, besides that usual answer, only farther promise was made us to that exchange ? Upon the motion of Mr. PERCEVAL,the witiotss was ordered to withdraw, and Mr. Perceval ob served, that the witness could not have any know ledge of this, but through other persons, and there fore she most regular mode would be to ask him, if, on his own knowledge, there were any promise. either verbal or in writing I for if there were of the latter description, the House should have it stated, and produced bed re them. Sir F. flu RDS rr stated, that there were various ways by which u person may know of an occur rence without personally knowing it. It was very probable that he might have seen a letter, stating it, and that letter not preserved. Mr. PERCEYAL added, that perhaps such a letter might have been rhea a, without that letter having been sent from the Duke of York; and, therefore, 'he thought the objection had been taken at a proper moment. Col. WARDLE stated, that he had put the clues tloll as direct us possible, • by asking whether the wittiest knew of oily promise whatever that his brother had received, besides the usual letter that bad been sent to him. Sir JAMES GLinAll thought the question was direct and proper. The Witness was then recalled, and further qaestioned. Q. Do yon know of any positive promise given to Lientenant-Colonel Knight, prior to the appli eal ion to Airs. Clarke, -that that Cl.Cliallge should No. Q. Was it the idea that teat exchange could not have bean carried into effect through the com mon bourse of uezociastoti, that caused this iut,•r ference of Mrs. Chalky There was some de lay in the business, but from what cause Ido not know. I said to Dr. Thyme, I should be happy to give 2001. if the ►usiness could be carried into effect. Dr. Thynne happened to be attending in my fsmily at the time, and he said he could make application to a friend of his; and I told him 1 should be happy if lie would, us my brother was then in u very bad state of health. It was for the pnrpose of going on half-pay ; and I believe lte had served as !Wig as any men of his uge, and had ac verely sutiered by it. He had served •..d years, and been in many ba►tles. My anxiety to serve him proceeded from his painful and distressing situa tion. Q. How did you scud the 2001. to Mrs. Clarke ? Under a blank cover, Ly my servant, as fur as my recollection serves me. (By Mr. LEArit.) Q. Did you see Mrs. Clarke soon after this ex change was effected, and after notice of it was in serted in The Giaette, and for a hat purpose did you tee her ?—A. 1 saw her about the month of September, for the purpose of thaaking her. Q. On that occasion did Mrs. Clarke desire you to be secret us to this transaction, and did she assign any reason fur it ? t. She did entreat me to keep it a secret, lest it should come to the Duke's ears.—(Hear haw ! from varies's,: parts of the House.) Q. Dail you see Mrs. Clarke within the last trwtstli, and how did it haluivii that you saw her ? A. She sent for me by u note al,uut a month ago ; I made no reply.; but she aauiii wrote to inc about ten days ago, and I sent to her; she ,asked use the name of the officer who had exchanged with my !anther ? She made many obs..rvations soil com plaints of tht• treatineav she had met with from tine Duke of fork t that he laud left her in debt to the moonlit of 3nintl. and that she would expose him. I told her it was her affair, but I trusted the a °old nut produce either myself or brother in any of lw r traiitaetions she said, 4. Oh ! no! 110 ! Oh good Cod, 110! it is not env intention !" That linseed in the drawing-room. and I have not sect' her since ; taut I a us much surprised and thundetstruck to ewe , suit hear my mime had been mentioned as it was, without previous halite. Q. Do ton kiinw, of your own knowledge, where the delays alio& d to took place ?—A. lu the Duke ofdork' s 'Ace. Q. What department of that office?—A. (elicitsd it was in Lisa otfiee of Colonel Gordon, who WWI secretary at that timac. (By Mr. An %Nil Q. Vuu lance said that you sent the Bank notes in u rawer ,lay the servant; do von rtmember the nine of day you sent them I am pretty sure it was in the fore-part of the day, mid rather early in the morning:. (By Ike ATroamrlNGr.meft 11..1 . Q. Was the money you here mentioned in t•nr or two Bank notes ?—.l I cannot positively my. but I thin!: it was in two. Q. Can you My from whom you receieed these Bank notes ?--A. No, I counot ; it is three or four years ago. 4. flow long was it before your brother oat Cirsertted that you yoke to Dr. Thynao?—A. I should think it sus about a fortnight or three weeks. Q. Did yea moire a note with 7%, Comm front Mrs. Clarke No; 1 did wet I disk it was from Dr. Thymic flint 1 received the smite. Q. Did yms ever receive soy letter from Mrs. Clarke, except the one )ou hate mentioned ?--a. .1 have received runny letters, but not oo this bu. Q. Did your hr•lher, of your own knowledge, ever apply to the Commanding Officer of the Stith ftegiiiieut, wishing him to solicit the Coininiinier in-Chief ?—A. I do not kmw,liiit I think he did. Upon consideration it now ocelots to me, that I went to The l;azette Officc myself to oak inqui ries about the exelitinge being entered. Q. How long time elapsed from the applies. tin', at the C 44444 tuauder-in-Clii.Vs office, to the record application to Mr 4. Clarke, thrmigh Dr. Thymic r—A. I believe, shout a fortnight or three we ka. (By Lord Fot.arrome.) Q. Hid y‘sio any paeucular reason !tam,* that the exchange would Ire announced in that partici.. 14r Gazette, or did you go revieral times. t., are it it were inbertcd ?—A. 1 went thole der, be'ore. Q. Did you Actually learn from Mr*. Claike Oat she did ever apply to the Duke of York to Ole, t or expedite this exchange?—A. I eannnt say ever did; hut, of e...irtie, she took credit to lietseli for effecting the businese. Q. IL•tve yon then no reason to presume th , -t she had uctuallyrnud.• such ApialiCiatilltl ?--A. I it not bound to draw inferences. Q. Did you ever, at any time, barn from Mrs. Clarke that she hell applied to the Duke of York ! —A. She told me f ilte niacie application when • I saw her, in the mouth of September. Q. To whom did She say she had applied?—A. She said she had applied to the Doke of York. By Cu(. WAttur.x.) Q. I wish to know whether, when she said she had applied to the Duke of York. she and h i s Royal Highness were living ou good term ?—.A. I cannot answer such a question. Q. Did Mrs. Clarke then lire in Gloucester. place ?—A. Yes. Q. Was it after that that she requested the transaction might he kept a secret ?—A. Yes. Q. In point of fact, did you send the told. to Mir. Chime foi any other purpose than to expeil:te the exchange in question?—A. I sent it solely 14 the purpose that she might use her exertions, and all the memos in her power, to expedite the chore e. Q. Did Dr. Thynnetrunsinit The Gazette to you after the exchange had taken place?—A. I do not exactly know, but think he might. Q. Was it accompanied Ly any note from Mrs. Clarke to Dr. Thymic I—A. I do not rememuer that it was. (By Sir Anima Plocorr.) Q. Wss it after the ‘l'itneas had sent the 100. that Mrs. Clarke desired it to be kept a secret ?•,• A. Certainly it was. Q. Was that a fact that she desired it to be kept a secret from the Duke of York ?—A. Yes. _ (11l Co!. WARDLE.) - Q. Did Mrs. Clarke use auy express words to that purpose, or what words did she use N--A. She re quested the whole business might he kept secret. Q. Did she express herself particularly as to the money, or was it a general conversation as to the transaction itself ?—A. It was as to the traosactsuu itself. Q. Was that aish of hers expressed at the last conversatiou, a few days ego I—A. It was in the month of September eubsetiutut to the tratimetioa in question. Q. How long was it previous to that interview that the money was transmitted ?—A. The day al ter the exchange was inserted in The QUM& Q. Did Arm Clarke, in expreesing that the . transaction might be kept a secret, express also a wish that the Duke of York might nut know the nurses. had any thing to do with the businessl—A. Certainly she did. Q. Dad she not express a wish that it might be kept secret from the public I—A. It was from Ins 'Loyal Highness. Q. Repeat, as nearly as possible, the conversa tion en that subject 1.-A. I do not see how I can be able to do it exactly. Q. I nisi' to know what impression Mrs. Clarke used, that the witness recollects, to enable him to state, that it was not from the public, but from the lhike of Yank, she wished it to be kept a secret?— A. She expressly begged it might be kept a secret from his Royal Highness. Q. Did she add to that request, that witness should not be mentioned as having any thing to do with the business I—A. I have answered that 1.1- ready, and I cannot state in any other way. She was anxious that the whole transaction ought be kept secret trout him. Q. Did she say or give you reason directly to undersunid, that the Duke of York would object to rie hying u party to this transaction more than any other pi. rsou ?—A. No. Q. Do you kuow that the exchange took place actually in consrquepee of your application to Mrs. Clarke ?—.l. I cannot say 1 know it other wise thci I have stated, foe it is impossible. The application had been made to the War-oilleesenue time befoac the application was made to Mrs. Clarke. Q. I)id she ever say that she had applied to tl:e Duke of York ?—A. Certainly. (By Mr. Hammen.) Q. I)iil Mrs. Clarke appear more anxious that it should be kept secret from the Duke. of York rather than from the public I—A. Q. Did Mrs. Clarke state what toseseres she was taking to expose the Doke oi . York Q. Do you recollect the expressions she made use of as eu him ?—A. She and he bed *sod her ala s deserted her, nut' left her in debt. (By Mr. Carmen.) Q. I)o von recollect that you or Dr. Throe first mentiumsl the name of Mrs. Clarke, in a C°U - VcraPtoo.l )011 bad together I—A. I think it wan Dr. l'ltrnoe. Q. Weis the first permed interview with Mrs. Clarke, in September ?-11. Yes, but I will mot be positive as to its being is Stplealber. or the latter end of Au g ust. lay Mr. Wu...unman.) Q. Whercelid Airs. Clarke reside Thee you sent the steal. to her I—A. I hem already stated. east it I: as in Gloucester-piece, • . Q. Had the Witness soy particular reason ,te I 1 I