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peace diering—(ollll iR 411 couched in the fol lowing terms. which f.,m d tire application to the Lord Chasiberloin's Of f ice for the restitution of the plate:— " Lady Ala Hasnihes is eniesseled by her Majesty Gleerll Caroline ha dative Mr. Mark will give the silver plate, her property, given her hy Yin Genie 111. to she bearer, John Hieruasomies, her Illsjesif steward!' The Lord Chamberlain, however was not se much alive to her Msjesty'l eiviiership as was ex pected` and rePlied that the plate, according to his orders, had been removed to the Jewel Office. So tat from this answer being either harsh or indica. roue, it. was positietly the only a n swer the lased Chamberlain could properly give. Bet this *Hs not the first tithe her Majesty had mistaken the real tenere by which she held this propettr, and which, as he hod before stated, was merely 'mend ed fur her use in Kensington Niece. When the Princers'of Wales wit molting her ortangements for going to, the Continent in 1814, she ordered this plate to be pocked up by her servants. for the purpose of removing it with her. It was accord. ingly packed up, hut stopped before it could be removed to its destination by the following official communication from the Lord Chainberldin's Office : " Mr. Mash present* hie compliments, and sends an in ventory of the King's plate, sad requests she same may be immediately packed top for t he purpose of being kept in the Jell Office, until her Kuril Highness's return front Ike Continent." 'flit plate wait accordingly, by this of hater• position, prevented from bring at that tide removed from the country. This was not the only step Ai l iten, out the part of her Majesty for the removal of this *le, u the following notification would ex. plain a Sir Orli is commanded by the Princess of Wales to direct that her Royal Highness's plate, in the care of she Lord Cbainberlain's department, Amin be delivered to Mr. Hooper, her agent, fur the purpose of being sent to her as quirk as pussible, as she has at present an obsolete necessity tur its use. " Dated at Genera. September 28, 1914." Tin. answer giveu to that application was— " Thnt the Lord assroberlain had no aotbority to olloot or:). part :hereof to be removed, as refrired by Sir William Cell's order." This was the exact state of the case, which the impatience of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman prevented his taking the paint of intermitting before lie made the motion. So much for " the wretched feeling and degraded system" that was said to have dictated the course pursued at present to her Me. jety, as if it was the first time the subject was stinted., and as if it had arisen from the present situation no which her Majesty was unhappily placed, —(llear.)-11 the poly object were to consult her Majesty's personal satiogection and cotivenience, Loi4 Liverpool's answer was surely decisive upon the poiut s —it offered to the Queen at once a suitable soppy of plate fur any residence she might .elect.-- I le %mild again implore the House to consider the nature of this subject, and take a course open the resent motion winch would prevent this course of dreggieg before the eyes of the public lamentable sraiisactiint• of this kind. and lacerstiag them cc this 'vas. He had usuuglit indeed that the want of sue ..ess which had liithetto attended such attempts would prevent their recurrence ; but as this was unhappily not the care, he trusted the. kionae would made this first approach' to involve Ulu discusaions which would bring into tie* those details which thi7 could not lily open with either propriety ur delteacy so the Royal Family, and which certainly .could not be made matter of discussion there with any advantage to any of the parties con.. verneil. The Queen", advisers ought to know that hi. Nlaiesty's Ministers were not inaccessible to tocir claims fur Any inquiry which they thought roper to desire; every convenience which they thought proper to ask for the comfort of her Ma jesty would freely be given. Why. then, did they not in this case resort to that channel for in. foimation ? Why, too, wait a rortitglit after the answer of the Lord Chamberlain, and then not wait • day for the presence of a Minister in Ins Place to give a necessary explanation ? If his Hon. and Learned Friend..-/,a laugh)—if the Hon. iii i Liereitt . Gentleman had wailed so long, he might hay. seen thr.propriety of not rushing into but h a gustation.- without himself consulting those persons who were likely to give him accurate infor. motion respecting the transaction. That course lie was certainly bound to take before he nor - tutored a topic so little calculated to add to the dignity or honour of the Crown or the character of the coun try. The perpetual agitation of such topics in the absence of proper deformation, could only have a tendency to lower the dignity oilier Msjesty, or to create, if that were possible, a disinclination to ex tend to her whatever indulgences her situation might Iw susceptible of. He hail alri'!ady said euough to chew the desire that existed to runtish be; plate, or wh.itever else might conduce to her personal cow hat ; but with refereisee to this crown plate, she was, as the documents lie had read proved, utterly mistaken as to the mode in which they were in. trusted to her. She might just as well have claim ed a right to his estate as to the plate in question. The King could. not dispose of it its the moonier alleged. The plate consisted of old Crown plate of king William's, with other articles, nut wade out of the Privy Puree, but furnished from the Lord Chamberlain's department, - which necessarily mode them public, not' private property. After what lie had said, it only remained for hilts to urge the tieetasity of putting au. immediate negative upon this monism—(Hear, hear, hear.) Lord A. HAMILTON was fd admit that in retiklisence of what hot Miro from, the Noble Lord upon the subject.nf this *plate, the ettotion of hi Hon. and Learned Friend Inuit 'fall to the groans'. If he undersj.atd tlie Noble Lord right, lie couletided that his late 'Majesty had - not the power of alienating this CrlliVd plate.—(Hear, hear.) so, of course the gtaireueonld put in no claim of property for luerrelrtit - 171:tie so situated. lie was Perfectly tonvince.d, -however, that if her Majesty had not supposed herself invested with the right possessing this plate, -the wobld never here put 'o the claim she held drips eriitiectlug it ; slit had w. doubt thought all Aloog the property to, bent, and provided for her own use. opinion was now, doubtless, an-:streer and -if -U . wairt-true the 'King :nester did , order this plate fur her ..as a pretreat, Uwe, efoestorit., thefts -woo No ead.4to the elands-which fusiseved she had iv ibis property's Thert-we*' one- or two -obsef-votious he dill himself tibder the necessity of molting in Oats iloettee of 411011ixid &limn troll". Ike *iiible Lord ;ill postle. The Noble L 1 ; 4 " 4 hood severely Cenouted the Oftfotitlttion orthie S cat. tit, ghat 'Olt WI Xi krill" ress the 'tionsideririe attesting doe's. Ph Modesty's Minister", for their desire to consult the comfort an coatesienec of the Queen. He (Lord Archibald) wee ilefeetlh airily to admit that stick mistral subjects as this might not to be lifthtly it uniticesidrily made mattera d.f discuss' • in that NOUN he adaiitted they were aeSt inidects for inVestigation there, anti ought slot to be started until all hopes of ot- BlanetiOn elsewhere had venishel..w ( tirine„ Mar, bear.) et Ire 11141.14, was sot the particelar situation of the (111,11111 use 'Mach prompted her to seek redress for a grievairce any wbeeg best from his Majesty's Miaisters?--(Hear.)—What Lail not beer the treatment she received at their hands ? (ihar.)—Wbew the Nobie Lord talked of the artful ninon motion of the public mind, and of Ike system by which he said it was kept up, he *Mid ask him in his turn, to what was that irritaties to be traced but to the course pursued IttglltUlli her Majesty?—(t/ear.)—To what but the unmerited degradation 111 which Ministers at the outset cumigned her was this spirit to be ascribed ?—Nerd be go back further than the excleatse of her Majesty's 'same from the Liturgy..—(Plear hear, Aar}--to skew the sort of treatment she had received from them who now wanted to claim credit tor their forbearance ?—(liear.)...Whesi the Queer came over to this country had she any suitable residence provided fur her? She was refused a proper vessel fur her convey. mice; she was refused the use of a Palace fur her establish meat. Had she wit been trona beginning to did exposed to every difficulty? Her Attorucy and Solicitor General were not at preseut with her (we believe the HMI. and Learned Gentlemen are on Circuit) good she had little means of 'loin justice to her own situat• . When the Queen' was said to excite clamour, what would be said to the late aitnek upon her ip a Paper eoluriuusly seeder the iefluelece of Guyer's meet (The Monthly Po f), which had broadly stated that the Queru was in the way of the public pence, and ought to be gut rid if, either as a victim or a criminal.—(t/ear, hear.) — The Noble Lord concluded by deploring this ntamer of treatiug tier Majesty, and hoping, that as her household stock was now 'applied to her or hire, same inure suitable mode would be provided fur administernag to her comfort and conyenience.—(Hier.keer.) Mr. R. Ilewrtw spoke against the motion. Mr.HErcitinsote begged is, say a few words omit the per. sent occasion, though he mist complain of the uecessity of saying any thing Now, sus a Member who would possibly have hereafter to decide gravely open a eineetim ties drag ged forward in some degree, in a case like this, unadvisedly, so he thought, in the present temper of the public Med. On the sees its of the painful question which now occupied the public toned, be bad formed no minion, anxious to re tinas', as it weskits boandas duty to remain, entirely impar tial, uutil the whole circumstances of the ease were fully and regularly before him —(fleter.)—His Noble Veined had frankly avowed that the Noble Lord opposite had made ont • complete case against the motion of the liou. and Lead ed Geolleman. A more complete answer 10 II motion he (Mr. Hutchinson) did not remember to have ever beard. The statement made by the Hun. and Learned Gerelemaa last Saturday 'evening, sod which hail gorse forth to the public with that getter"' mi;cisracy which dietiugeished the Geiii!e. rams who attindia . ter the debates, wad eerteinly proved by what had Lille', from the Noble- Low to be wholly destitine of foundetion:—(liettr.)--The Hon. sad Leonia] Gast lents'. had thought proper to lase roost pointed laegunge, reyroloist lug those shots he deemed to be the advieere fef al". treat. meat towards the Queen respecting this plate. lift oocild not help regretting that so respectable a Meaalier bad not sheen himself better informed .psis I be tarts of the eysielrefore he veer ured to use the language he heel dome upon liesiNecl. Sorely the terms ° mean," " despicable," u shabby," amain not to have been applied without snore mature considers: lion aid kuowledge of all the cireiteastaares Vibe transac tion. He could not help regretting the existence any where of an apparent desire to excite premature discussion upon this subject, and he repinbeted the part taken by a portion of the public preis on the present .cession. lie yielded to no man iii a slicers desire to uphold the liberty of the press, but • be eould sot look et suck a paragraph is that which lately appeared against the Queen in The ,Iforminy - Post, wi:Joint west demereet. Hfileirerament hai the pewee of:peetsbiag the asinine of such • paragraph, it was their ditty to do sm.-41feet - , heur.)—He bad also seen other am !lverts% in another Paper, certainty more respectable than the one be had. nteritineed, in which a great deal of cut. palate and remehensitile language had been used. What could be more inflammatory or mtrageons than to go the o length. fur so ore paragraph he had seen did, of entourag ing the destruction of some of the foreign witnesses?— flieer.)—Whot tendency could met, leetreage have bet to impede the course of impartial justice? How could the re. spectable part of the press so fee forget its chancier as to call some of these witeesses " errfaute pert/u'•," and as to say that " London was too hot to contain III!. t" that they were gone away, hot it was said would aloofly come bark, sad then " NOW f rerrorr,," whether they will or 11,11 He yielded to oo man in his anxiety te epaulet the dignity and impartiality of jostiee in 'hie ease. He was es desirons as any man for Ike liberty of the perm, fut a reform of all abuses, beginning with a reform in that House; bat he moat protest against Ibis inflammatory course of obich he tomplained he protested against it because it belonged to a system of intimidation. which all honourable met' were boon(' to resist, come from what quarter or whet Milk it may Fur his part, no isitimitlatkon should prevent him on this, ai be trusted, as on every other occasion, front the rigid and independent performance of his public duty —(lfenr.)—He couceived that this .111141116•11101111 affair, whit+ Waled the public mind, had been misinanaged. If such an offence as that of *MA the Moorhen* personage was chneged were in fact committed, there ought to have been Ito compromise. Wilk reference to the permit motion all he should say was, that lie believed her Majesty must have thought she was en titled to this plste,or Etat she would *ever have applied for its restoration to her po*sessiou as she had doer. lie again re pelltii with ' , wroth what be eariesidered to be a coarse of in ioll, which had been pursued elsewhere, and declared that isothisig should prevent his purseing 1111 impartial course through this most painful business. He Ms ecrely hoped that the Queen would be able satisfactorily to establish tier innoeenee; sou person would more sincerely rejoice at such en event than he should, end if her prosecu tion should ultimately be proved In hare been a perseco. tiou, thenothors of it wonlil, in shut Mlle, he trusted, be held up nut only le the punishment of that House, but the execration of the country, at large—(Hear.)—After the replawation •hich had bees given lee winst oppose this motion: Me begged most distinctly to ilti an vtiabout beilag usaderstootllia the gangliest degree to give any opinion upon the merits of the general ipsestion which was au passion) , to come ender public investigatina. Let that be impartially eununcted without ietimace at either side, and Hon the country would beintiati Hese, hem.) Mr. STUART WoarLeW said, he entered the House Ibis evening with painful seurations, fur he did think that if the Queen had been treated in the manlier the lion. and Learn ed Gentleman's *peach of Saturday bail indicated, his mu tton would stand justified. But How after the refutation of the Noble lord mar him,,that impreasiou was removed from Isis mind ; mid he hoped it would furnish a salutary lesson to the public to atioid etreiv;ifg those partial impressiosil which are systematically attempted to be made for the purpose of distressing and agitating the public mind. He believed that. if the Hue. sad Learned Gentleman bad known the facts stated by the Noble Lora, be dal ced this motion. Her Majesty, perluiPs, sit some person about her, must have known some of those facia, mil rt was singular that the Hog. and Learned fieutlentan had not lir. iv powered of Meter information upon the guljeel. Mr. threitission.saiii, that his Majesty could uti more part with Alit old. plate, of the Crown than he could with the Crown lands, pave by the concurrent advice of she Lords of lbe Treasury, in's warrant specifically drawn up fur the oc tasithi; inch An lastroment•was essestial to Stir peritoneal ' eueveystree of any piste .from the ..level-olliers •here lbe Crown plats not is use *RR generally fterilite d • rermait. bereft brinz iu -the Treasury in ISOP, then the Late king ur dereil apartureirts to he listed up fur the Queen 111;Et.11111i1:1411 rillltCr, awl also the requisition to the Lord Channel'. lain to forniali the necAsary phire,Waethroware,•he. Solna dismitrion tools place at 'the time betveren the Lords 44 tire • 1 Treasury nail the Lard Chvglierleinorewoing the nnede of prou'dime this plote, mud he' hail himself miggetied at tire time, wills a ties of reducing the expense, au inquily Ate . . . titer Moho was ail old Citsw• Pia* ItUdi *mad N !Wit 15 assayer filch a worm* Dwelt einoorpodossip made, Morse of Kinl lVilltaoy plain watt t i zi a, sad alswealutaledl ue the id a lethe Prielerio ler Kerialogion The whole blella t al wdi vetrolaeil sod fenteally transacted between the LoWs of die Treasery and the Lord Cileattierlain, bat it iieb .alters were where a • similar sceissonsidertiota vii Premiad for Royal resideols in any of the Palaces. The entry at the time in the books, sad lie begged to say that that entry was made in the year Ulna, specified expressly that the plate was " few her use is Kesaington Palace." Precisely of the same eaters *es the Doke of CaniStidge's possessing' of royal plate while be hod isparbestota I. St. Joints*. Pelmet; when his Royal Highoess mimed hi a priests boom, the plate he seed to the palest was duly reformed to t h e Lord Chamberlain... , (ffilate.)-o-The dime at Windsor could sot be removed else where without a Waralut Weed for the purpose, mid. ea en try of the marmot Mode by which the property mow he duly traced. He we,. astonished hew the Queen coedit have fallen into Mich a ontwonceptam respecting thia property, for, if he did not mistake the matter, cm one of the former •pplieslione In the Lord Chamberlain it had bee. explained to Mr. Hooper, who was then bur law sgesit.--o(Pleor) Dr. I.l:monorcio explained the way is which the subject had devolved mum. hien in the absence of his Learned Friends. lie had, therefore, no !Mkt hat to discharge the duty intrusted to him, sad le do so..as he trusted be should lie Count to do throughout the whole of the arduous prom-editor which were impeoling, with lategrity, Aria. ness, and perseveresice.—(ffear, hesr.)--Het thee josti fird the application of her Majesty, who acted waist the belief that the King had' presented her with the plate L-of course he could nut rwan each part of it as was old (hewn property, hut with that which was *hushed at the time to "'cite up the •eri4!ce. •He drfeeded hirnielf for having b.-algid on Ibis subject ow Saturday, mot repeated, that his Learned Friend hatt i givea that notice of his intention to the Noble Lord whirl) courtesy reqiiireil on such an occasion. He was compelled on Seto/gay to bring on the motion when called upon ply the Speaker Is regolor course, and nut know ing then that the House would sit irouirrrilw, or that be could have had any other emparionity of bringing ou the motion, if he neglected the use then before him. He dis claimed in the iiiireoluction of kit minims any woh to excite popular inlammation ; if he had knows any other chanted of obtaining any ad•siate ieforniation, he should sot have resorted to an application to that House. He aright advise her Majesty to make any appeal to the people, ex cept io a ease of great and deep necessity.. He Sibela re. viewed the ungracious treatnient motored by the Qmew from hie Majesty's M mister', both before and sines her arrival in ibis conitiry ; their refusal to give her the royal yacht to ' , nine over, or a palace here for her resideuce. He was in clined to t hink thal tot doubt wee tbrowd over this traneketioo until the late venerable King was not in a condition to set the matter right ; had that Monarch lived lie (Dr. L.) enter: tamed a strung opinion that no such inquiry as the Present would ever lie made. He defended the candela of the Queen in her short daily escaroles's, and asked whether it was fair to expect that to avoid the inquisitiveness of a crowd her Majesty should for ever abut heeself op in • small. home, the blinds of which were constantly kept flown to avoid the public curiosity of the crowd always assembled In fiiiirt• He did not think it was either honourable or veer ig. to cast those imputations upon 'her Majesty, sorroilad ed is she now woe with her calamities and misfortuites.—, (Hear, keor.)--He ruirellided by ilapiog, that if any blame were imputable in this transattioo t it should he opus bun, and not WI her Miljesty. Lord CASTLEN.EAOH explained that the note from the Queen's Solicitor-Gem-rat was left et his office on Saturday morning, but he did not receive it until the evening. Mr. fluxcnixsow explained, mid the Motion was thirst &e -volved. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. The CHANCELLOR of the Excirequsa gave notice, that he uhullid lu•niorrow move that the House do, at its rising. to-morrow, adjoung until Monday next. Sir WM. CURTIS brought up the Report of Ilse Commit. tee respecting an inquiry conuecied with the site of the New Poet Office.. • This Report led is a conversation, in which far Wm. Cm tie, Mr. Calvert, and Mr. Peter Moore expressed the strung opinions they entertained in favour of Me. Browses claim. The Report was ordered t. be prided. EXCHEQUER WRITS. On the motion of Mr. LOCKHART, accounts were ordered of the number of writ,, declaration*, interlocutory judg. menu,, &c. signed in and issued out of the Exchequer Court duriug she last three years. ".• • The oilier Orders of the Day were then read, and the !louse adjourned. MAJORITY AND MINORITY ON Tilt RFPORT OF THR SILL FOR WILDING NSW DARIIACIIII IN THE REGENTS PANE. MAJORITY. Arhithnot, West Dawkins, H. Nightingale, Sir M. . - eon. r. Divett, T. Ommanney, Sir F.. Arlailit, i.se T. Davenport, D. Pole, RI. liii.W.W. 4tartirip, Lord . Dun, Sir A. Pennant, G. H.D. A Tuvel,, .A. Danville, Sir C. Prclwl, Sir T. Pairlltit; Hatory Downie, Robt. Prendergast, J. 8., lisitri , d, J. Ellison, C. Plumber, John .• Bathurst, Li. Hon. Forrester, F. Pringle, Sir W. C. B. .Fire, Karl of Robinson, Rigs.. Bruer°, James Grant, A. C. Hun. IF Bent, John Graham, Sir J. Seott, Sir lVm. Blair, J. H. theville, Air C. Somerset, imrd G. Bradshaw, R. 11. Haiskisatto; Right St. Paul, Sir N.C. Pinning, Lord Huo. W. Fearyd, N. Roswell, Atm Hilt &v.v. Sheldon, R. Barnard, Vise. Harvey, Air E. Stewart, Wm. Castlereagh, Vise. Harvey, C. Seymour, Hugh Curti., Alderman H olmes, W. Timorous', C... Ciotti', E. J. Hollins% lend Trench, Colonel Clamming, G. Ilan, Gewersl Thyase, Lord .1. Calvert, John Harding, Sir H. Tulk,C. A. Cautiing, Rt. Ha. G. lit ing, J. . Towasheutt. Hn. H. Cockburn, Sir G. Jolliffe, 11. Vaissittart, Right Courienay, T. P. Kerr, D. Ilan. N. Courtenay, Wm. Lemke, %Vaa.• - %Voltam, Rt. Hon.T. Cherry, G. H. Letter. R.L. %catmint, k . J. Chichester ' A. Lowther, laird • %Ca crawler, Sir G. Clark, Sir G. Lockhart, W. E. %Card, Hon. S. W. Clive, Hon. Ruht. Mitchell, .1. %i'iirol, Rubt. Dobsou, Dr. Mutintatarles, IA Warren, Guides 1/unolois, W. R. K. Minoru, Lard R. Wall, C. H. Douglas, John Munday, G. . TCLLIU. piaileorell, J. E. Marlin, 11. Palancruton, Vier. Dueeton, Geri. Margin, Sir C. Liashlugluis, S. R. , Aliffentry. Abererionhy,Hs.l. Halilimansl,l,so.. Prittie, Hu. F. A. Allen, J. H. , Hamilton, Luna A. Pryse, Pryse . Anson, Ileti.O. 'legitimate, G. J. Mantis, A. A uhr..y, Sir 4. ... Hobtxragr, J. C. Rsharia, Geer** Bill ?VII, J. 111. Hutches, W. L. Robinson, Sir G. Refusal, R. Hume, Jos. Rowley, Sir W. Rrialst, Henry Hutchinson, Hun. Reinhold, C. Buxton, T. F. C. H. Russell, Lied G. W. &meths's, W. R. Langateve,.l FL Russell, 11. G. . liknot, Joins . Leeson, iir W. Smith, R. Cal thorpe, He.F.G. Lushingtun, Dr. firsJausaro. R. Calrrrt, C. Leonard, T. H. Sefton, Easi of ... Campbell, Heti. .1. Lockhart, J. T. Tiichfield, 41•1111,,O* Cl.ll7wit, A. '3lartio Juhu Townstieudi.liaibres Cestrannun, Lucius Maxwell, J. Taylor, IN. A. Diem, T. H. Mmick, J. R. Wester*, Cie! Denison. Wm. Moore, Peter Wells, J.' - . • Distichis,•C. Hoop', Sir T. Hisithread, Savvy; _ Dlintannuis, Fisc. Nugent, Lnid Whillnead, W. 1!: • Eh/derma; Vise. Ord, W. WlNissw, W. Ereisto, Wes: (Issoltion. 1...9rd Wood, A IderTtioil Feransno,bir R.C. Parinll, Sit 11. IV )i ii, s ir w. W. f liaarralil,Lerd W. Parer, Tbnlisall Wilson, Sir Rola, firming. Julie ' PeiriLe, 11.. '4E146. Giniuicrl; iniii #Powlets. flun.Wiii. Caleran. J. • . Graham, PR. O. PliCe,' R. Witsbair 'no** • • . CONMON e 4 tOO/41. . • • • 0911.111tAldlis Yesterday a Spacial tang Res held for the pus. 'smut& cosseidering of Partiunni to he ireeeented to both Houses' of Niliteuterit, aisiteit 'the fisettiii progress of the Bill of Pains end Pemilties, mow pitstiteig through the House of Lords, fur the de. initiation and divorce of her Majesty the Queen. The intuitive of ske last Cobh being wadi is. *ether with the requisition upon which sae melting was caned-- Mr. FAYELL rose. He repressed hie regret tkat the inisoiess which he should hive the honour to handl:et bud not fallen to the ntainsfetnent of tome inure able advocate, whose legal knowledge Might : have given mote eatiornatiou to those litho bead hitn, and more certaiiitt to the result of the Heiolutious he hod to offer. He felt confident however, that in whet he had to sohlinit, the Court *mild, discover nothing hut what had undergone hit meet serious cud deliberate eonstideration, aced though he could boast no greet store of legal knoer ledge historic he had had the adttintage of selerail wise men of much experience in comaton and civil km. by savor* every sentiment had been well and thoroughly rifted which he would have the honour to propose. The question iiivolited was as mu nietitons,ai;ver was discussed in that Court. The !wifes chie y interested were of the most exalted rank. The interests and honour of the House of Bruisswiek were deeply involved; interests *kith were perhaps even more momeutous than -these *err concerned. Kings and Queens might pass away, but the great principles of British law and British justice should nor, would not. be allowed to • pass away. ft would even he to the honour of that Court that they bad done all in-their limier to pre. venttheus from palming away, to preserve and con tinue !hens In • current as pure as crystal, and as loot as justice could endure. Two ways had present. ' thotrioseives of carrying into effect the object which Ise hid to propose. The first oils. to carry up an Address to the Throne ninon the Bill of Pane and . Penalties; the lecond wets, to Petition both Houses -et Parliament against the Bill. Por the first of Allele merles he would say that serious and im litsitant cOletiderations offered to induce the Court to mire the edeasitage of their privilege of going up in the Throue with an Address. When they con . iiidered the prima facie outline of the proceedings, end without making any remarks or allusions which liesield he constraint into a desito to effect any tiling like popular clamour ;. when_ they considered that the evidence offered aspired the Queen was secret , evidence, which had been opened by oue House of Parliament and rejected by another ; whet' they reflected that a considerable and most respects tde party in the House of Commons voted au ad dress to the Queen, declaring that the bare in vestigation of that evidence would be derogatory from elle dignity of the Crown, and dislionouralne i to the throne and the kingdom ; and when, More over, the proceediOg of itself as to its justice, and ...the authority upon which it was established, was taken from the wont outbids* of tyranny in the worst times of English history, there seemed to he enough to delnand that the Court should lose no time in exerting its privileges by carrying up a strung Address of neinonstrauce alienist that measure. lis A t his Mauls thought it right. un doubtedly hn,- could, have felt no hesitation in proposing such a course to the Court, but he was not disposed to go so far in *Soaring and exercising their righte 'as to pelt it in the power of other, to make charges of rashness or imprudence. Hr aid his friends bud considered that the subject , was out upon which they could not have addressed the Throne without the danger of giving great pain an I dissatisfaction. The 'flannel of the great wire too frequently unhappy ; such contracts seem ed to be ftilfilled with more williogness, :Ind were more uniformly boinfortable in their resulti among the middle ranti of life. These reflections aid the consideration of ,how actively the personal feel ions of the Monarchs and the family must hr inter ested in what was goini on, the probable effects which it might have on the Succession to the Throne, the degree of kindred in which the Queen owed with respect to the firmly, independent of her marriage, altogether left little to guide them in their course. They had, however, done their best; and whatever might come out in the coenie of the proceedings trl induce them to appeal to the Throne, it had been + thought best for the present to confine the eterti'e of their rights to relenting petitions to boils Houleti of Parliasitent. lie now had to throw him setf on the indulgence of the Court while he offered a few remarks on the propriety of the course which had been selected. He sew Mail honotirahle per. sons opposite to him on whom of such a question he could rely With confitleoce for cooling to u con clusion from just and equitable considerations alone. He Would couctude the liner outline of his motives which he wen immediately about to submit, by pro posiug to their cousiderabon a series of Resolutions leading to the necessity of prese n ting petitions to the Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and to the House of Commons. In doing this he disclaimed any interference with any questions of policy, or examination of the separate functions of the several power's in the state, except such as related to those benefits and privileges of justice which it was the ilea of the meanest individual to claim. Ile then deecairted on the persecution of the Queen, from the earliest period of her misfortunes to that of the.. , prover-dine recently introduced for operation a divorce between her and her Royal husheild. 'I he ' course resorted to for the bitter purpose yes ibis usual, seldom in the liesetiee of the Conan ettilin, and never resorted to in ,cliargee eigrinst Queens, except by that Royal butcher (so lie Would call him, for such be was in the treatment of his wive.) Henry VIII. The very mode of proceeding by a Bill of Pains and Proulties, line of itself* supiciuus circumstance for the justice and rest merits of the sale. It wits a course seldom adopted, except to wards individuals who were become obnoxious to the Crown, and at *as remarkable that sub nequeut Parliament, lied often reversed the at minders on Bills of Pains and Penalties so brought. It was a mode of proceeding which of neeraity mutt lie ditedvantageout to one of the pasties. He dill not deny ilia Owe might I,,cases to Ouch it would be impossible to fulfil the ends of justice but by skewl proceedings - in Parliament. He could concrite the case of-a fa iroutite of die Cities's, so exalted • by the bounty of His Sovereigns it bat to be reached by the ordiustri wir~i 1 mutest of jos/lite ; Edit tate! 'slat pOnislith . toftl Were found to Uri:6ll.4 g the process ...., to be by impeachment at the bar of the House: of Lords. The best principle of the Cum' s .' etitution might thins full he •presertiedi and %he .. oceueed party *mild still -Wee the advaettge • a a fair trial by Peet.. Generally speortli gi. there must be a strong feeling of prejudice egaii.iit • Bills of Pains and Penolirei. and the orsly'sdinis:: sible reason for adopting them would he where the parties w er e of such rank tis not to be autenable hay any other cpurse of proceeding. The Bill i.i flue lion had two objects—the delfradation of the Queen and a divorce. She had stated her desires repeatriee to a constrtestiorial trial, according to the wiry course of justice. She had been refused a tint of wituesies. He expetiated on the charnel . .4a which rumour attributed to the *Owner, the tin. certain and suspicious mature of their evidence, aid the delectiveues. of the tharoe. He had been told . by a Learned Civitrin that tare were no spelt treats as adulterous intercourse known to the civil The question in that Omit was always ailulteay or no *dolt/try ; gurhy or riot guilty ; and U tact wee to be circornstaritially framed. As to adulterous intercourse, it was a term to Segue and of sour dangerous application, 'het it was impossible to say to litrw tunny famiiies of logl, rank it might or wiisht not •pply. He thought the precedent of geitiLs rid ore wife ; however mistimes*. in her deportment. without direct proof. most dengerou.; as it scut to subvert that principle of British law; which inure than any other preserved the chattiest' of Married. life, which always mimed reluctantly ill proceediewa teething to the disiiitution of marriage firs. fie trusted that MI there *4y no royal toed to loathe: their sionld never be tut by stale rape dietary a shirt road. isiiknown to the lair end ordi miry plan* of justice, to a Rimed drawer. Ha quoted the rerninks of Ur. Paley on Bills tit Paws' ' end Penalties, which appeared in one of our pait nbnibers. He considered them as linking ,lye liarnhet of statute law, of which ilie late Lord hiss:hope had said, that if they would nut allow huh to remove it by weggou loads, be hoped that they would suffer him to convey it away by wheelbarrows full: He felt with reliant to Rills of Paiiii and Penalties as he had dour Fight years ago, as to the right of ea ger by battle; at whirl, time he had expressed, almost prophetically as the cane turned out, his de sire that trie *Watt decreeing the right of wager by • battle might be repealed. He concluded speech by moving Resolutions—(for witch lee Ad. iserlisemoill•-b4lion which; should they he carried, he would afterward. pviiposie Petition. to be pre sented to both House.. Mr. fibuciiiisc seconded die motion. Mr. BROWN would riot giee a silent Vote. He consideted tt inspoesitle to bring the aceosatiohs against the Queen to a fair hearing except by a B.:1 of Pains laird Penslter.; Indeed, no tither course was open to the Government to pursue. He cows chided by moving the previous question, in winch Mr. S. Dtitoir seconded him: Mr. OLDHAII thought the question ni great itna portauce, end commended both sides of the Court for the teMper which they had evinced upon it. Pe could not concur with the mover of the ausesid- • 'meld. There were other remedies. snore constitu. • throat in their nature, open far the Xing, 'oppose the Queen to be guilty. He had been told by 84 Lammed Civilian, that the ItcclestastiCal Court- was . open to the Monarchstappeal; and repposieg hint. so abide by the Coihnion farms of justice. and • estahlhli a clear case against his Royal Consort, a, divorce would he the issue. He did net like Bills of • Pains and Penalties, because they had scarcely ever been used except for the apparent purpose of' stretching the jorinilties of the laws to casts. which could not be punished, and wire, not offences sic cording to the ordinary principles of justice. . Na pointed out ill instances of theme Bills—that by whiehthe Queen deposed Edward 11. and put herself at the head of the army ; those of Henry VIII. partitularly that against Anne Buleye; between whose unforturiate case and that of the present Queen. there was a striking similarity ; yet no historian had questioned her purity, or the injuitiee of her sufferings. The case ef Fenwick, for endeavouring to restore James 14 who wls eherged treasonably, but two witnesser being netessary, soil only one Iveing avail.: able, he was sacrificed by a Bill of Attainder. The • care of Bernardi, who was. during si space of 40 'rats, between the reign Of William 111. and George I. kept in prison by aucessiiie Bills of Pea (dillies. He who mentioned the case of Lord Steal:. feed, rind from the whole of these cases he drew the inference that Bills of this kind were hardly ever resorted io except in cases where there was an in t .: probability of convicting and punishing by the for 811 d ordinary course of law. Another black feature in them was, shut althungh many attainder* coder • them had bre') suhvrdaently reterseel, they had in. variably led to the ruin and executiou of the accused, and especially during Ole wars of the Houses of vo,k Lancaster, 'vitro two Pram wrists were Pitting in which Bills hf Pallas and Pea nobles were passed against the adherenti of either party by the other. should her Majesty milli/ goilty, those who knew all the fact, rind yet would havd accowmodated, (trim forthat single point of the Litu.guri stood, he thought, have better consulmit the interests 4.1 morality and religious if they bad 'conceded th a t oae point. • . Mr fawns thought that proceeding by Bill of P,sith ;Old Peualties more fientuahle to the Queen, as it must paw the Commons as well as .he Lord* than the mode of plot. eeediag by impeachnieut, whichwouid he.passed..hy the lairds -, only. He thought there could be no doubt of the Ineats 4 .- M' of. the words adulterous intercourse; Ira it was' 4 tharge of adultery, mot an met of adultery sirossld tar haul tin doubt be established bt.tore the thll would . prof. If it were poduible to entertain any suspkiou of utbe )asti*. iu of the tribunal befure Which her Majesty would be .trteul ; and any illocution of winking injory were tus be-mauifekturd, woill, be Mid Ho doubt, be Ail 1111111iiAltIlIS tale of, that nowt carried up against it immediately. He Maimed her Majesty 44 .been ill-treated since her arrival nt this custom,, thoogltastst with rtferento to the bestamenotette fore the Court. - . Md. Werrostse-ssid, that the argument of tellanse.ori. the wisdom and justumuf Parliament wasatufssumlia OM" ,• I what they ought to fodk to was the law of the lard. limit this proceeding was dot law, it as ttiolissisitiof lame 3 . lte worthy Geollenial was whit tier ' ea a fair nod op timak of proceeding, *Mild ask where was sot living will whef.• then was apt, renal kits: is tit Of , oil isi l: Miele .ntleni•u (HT. Brown) had 1011 J Ihetta her !Najaf* emu lied. Her Majeal 'had mete* opeu trial, lied he totethilat that wig U roceedieg. and it Wee herniae? ?bet beifiggio.). Where was the state mortally r' leer Maireee"Wita With the Krug ;- the way that bisHegiehlareses. a irks the Hate ueretlity 0 ertilitti ll l kits Could telly ereceedtrbeWheelia Alt elgift- iyi of the !mid. 'aciStojeityeekeilstrni &viva : Wert Or tiAltribre rifigiftrafteirls • • . • • . • .•• A.sam •