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•. Right ITon. And Learned Friend had letter ask prime of his reillesgue., who sat near him, the prac tice of ties I Inner nu complaints of thisnat ure„ fur lie really knew nothing of it himself.-544 toss could the lions, get sit the truth unites tht7 Aineed Vies plan of term...ding. over which they had ■ perfect Control ? Was there ever an attempt before to thwart this mode of getting at the truth ? He was certain there was not. How did it happen, that in the case of a poor printer, who had no Lord of Pitcliainent to protect him by his authority, the most sauna:ail process was taken ? If be was hacked indeed ley authority. and only libelled the re' Opolltl of men in ! sower, it was true, he was safe; and would not siift'er for a been h of pritilege; but how did it happen, that, if unprotected, it was never heretofore attempted to obstruct the exiniination of such mu individual. by guying that certain Tienr boils could not he put to him, lest they might affect himself ? fle had seen within the short period of being in Parliament three nr four printers brought op. and the motions were considered as mere motions of course; but if the present motion were resisted, nod in this manner, it would render manifest such a system of inequality and injustice in the proceedings of that House as 'sold do more to &spare. degrade, and wildly it in the eye. of the country, than any act it had me csiMmitted; would appear so flagrant, that he could not con• template the posstbility of such a decision as the Tejection of his Noble Friend's motion. This was nu light thing, at a moment like this. on the "VP of general and contested election.. Hik Right Honourshle and Learned Friend had iudeed said he had no influence. This was from one in his station an ingenuous avowal; but there were others not so circumstanced, end whose unre strained influence would overthrow the rights of the electors in many parts of the counter. And was this, he would ask, the moment to bold out such au unbridled latitude?—/Hear.)—The ma non was, it was true confined to rergeson I but even that did net preclude, if it should seen, ne cessary, MI inquiry into what (if any) load been done by Lord Douglas. There was iii the letter prime /title evidence against Ferguson at least; but suppose the inquiry should branch out. it would he still competent to embrace others, if they should hive p irticipated in the offence. 'I he last persons who should oppose the inquiry were. surely. the friends of Lord Douglas, who ought to he the fwemost iu vindicating the honour of the Noble Lord's character from any participation in the let ter, by calling for that public inquiry which above all things would place the matter ill the clearest lilit.— (Hear, hear.) The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND, in expls nation, raid he had been totally misrepresented by his Hon. and Learned Friend. He never entquit to quarrel with the present motion, because it was dif ferent from the notice, but because it fell short of it. Mr. BRUV II ma would ntmeal to those who heard what had originally fallen from his Right Hon. and Learned Friend, to my, whether he had not stated it correctly.—/ I fear. j 111r.,B;riittesT remarked on the application of the motion to a private individual, srid not to a Roble Peer, as was first stated. Ferguson. if the statement of his conduct be true, had been guilty of a .high breach of privilege. --/Near.)—The question was not as it was put by Gentlemen (typo whether his conduct should pass unnoticed, but us to the most suitable mode of action psi the ()cession. There were resources open to the House; one by prosecution. the other be referring the mat ter to the Cuutmittee of Privileges. The Right Hon. Gentlemis. Abided to the cases of the Bishop of Worcester and his son, in the year 1703, and sugge►ted, dist on the present occasion the matter should be referred to the Countrittee of Privileges. The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving us an amendment, that the matter of the complaint he referred to the Committee of Privileges to coos sitter and repoit thereon. _ _ After n I«iir worries itl e*planation between Lord A. HAMILTON and Mr. Batikuat, on the format of the proposed umendinent, Mr. A. HAMILTON stated, th it he was not aware of haring departed front the notice he bad origin wily given, its the motion he had this evening pro -I,;..ett for the adoption of the House. He had stat ed on the former night, that the matter of charge regarded the interference of a Noble Peer with the privileges of that House, hut he had never Said that the matter rested exclusively with this perianage. Ms charge had been attempted to be rebutted by en assertion, that at a former period of his (Lord A. liamiltoit's) life, he had had no objection to aristo eratical influence, and that in fart it had beets ex ercised for hint. To this he would reply, that he ass not answerable for the ills of others, and that whatever occurred so far back as 16 yenta ago, should have been made matter of cousplaint at the tone, instead of bring now raked up to defend roller Hos of impropriety. There was, however, a great difference between the character of the two axis alluded to. The mere personal request br w hen:o;bn of an individual, bore on resemblance to sor t an influence as that of which he stow Com iplJitierl, which was palpably corrupt, and went to destroy the beat rights of the electors.--(Hear.)— Thi. Lord Advocate had said that he had exercised no influence; because he had none to tender—th:3 was certinsily a very sufficient reason; he bad also slinited to the monster in which electors were made in Scotland, hut he at the same time well knew thin there was no other mode of contesting a county fleelion its Scotland but by creating these paper 1 ' 4 ... Ile bud often informed the House of the • of repfeseollolooo In that part of the tinri:c. for it was a Get that a man may have in laud, and yet be not entitled to a vote.- I Gleam./—The Noble Lord concluded by acceding to the wnenditlent, which was accordingly put and Iffire. ()II I! r ~ ..esticn that the Committee do .it to- Ilhoirom. Mr. W.:vs anggested that it was the usual 'muse for tm. Committee to arrange its own tune Moitsag, which was generally as quick as !leviable aie order "I the House. Lord A. II %sit LTON wished In knew whether he oss atm coissi•lerrd as relieved from the duty of "Igesting the Committee the course of evidence they ought t.. t..icc. Ile understood that a Com -11111,4 ttee of Pr! , der,: oas appointed early in each • tun; a wit et member of it, he • • Legged to know *lie - cousse he was bound to take to follow up the inquiry? Mt. BATHURST said, that though the Committee was emanated early it/ each Scission, yet it was open lu all. Members who thought proper to attend, "act they had also voices in the proceeding . . The „Noble Lord's statue may be specifically added to The Committee. Sir M. W. Riztt.gY thoUght that the better • course. The SIMAIERR said, that though the Committee eras an. open one, a certain quorum was required, which must consist of the original kfruibers. The Committee was then. ordered to sit to morrow. • ”1 Mr. TIERNRY °hom h 0 itmMed, t t delay must Minns getting the tiereswiry evUluace frau Scutlood. • BANK AFFAIRS. TIRRNEY would be glad tq mane to some arrangement with..the Right Hon. detaining,' op. pesite on the question of the Batik. Was the Bill on that subject to he read a second Allite on Mon. day ? It was hie iutratiat to propose a Committee on Friday next upon this important subject, and he was Anxious that the second reeding of the Bill should stand over until that &Y.. The CHANCELLOR of the Excittauat had no objection to accede to the arrangement of the Rigkt lion. Gentleman. Mr. l'itaxilt hoped his motion on Friday, for the appointment of • Committee, would have prio rity, as it would necessarily invite considerable dis cussion. He would himself have to trespass on the House with a great variety of details, and at con iiderable length. Theql6RANcst.t.oa of the el:ctn . cock agreed to debate the general question on this motion. Ou the motion of Mr. Tisanes, accounts were then ordered of the weekly issues of the Batik in notes and post ntis under the value of 51. from the 3d March (the date of the last return). up to the 7th Alin!, and the aggregate amount optitanding so far as it can be made up, to the morning of the filth April. The Right Hon. Centleinan also moved for monthly returns of the sums laid out by the Com missioners for the reduction of the National Debt, from the 17th October to the dth February last, specifying the diminution or increase in the amount of stock bought up in each month by the Com tbiasioners. The CHANCELLOR of pie EicutQUES eriplained; that the main amount bought up, to which the Right Hon. Gentleman alluded, was 1,800.0001. Mr. Ti RINEY said, that the Right Hon. Gen tleman lately calculated on a reduction of 3,000,000/. —The Returns were ordered. Mr. BENNETT postPitned until Monday next the second reading of the Offenders' Conviction Hill, and also the third reading of the Privately Stealing 8011. He begged td ask, What steps had hien taken on the subject of the Cominiamon,sent out to in. quire into the Civil Low of the Island of Guernsey? He understood a Report had hero transmitted usi the subject. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL replied, that such a Report had been transmitted, but that no decision was yet made, as the subject at lassie involved a • variety of considerations. Mr. CALVICRT presented a Petition from South wark for the regulation of Parish Vestries. SUPPLY. —ORDNANCF. ESTIMATES. On the snot of Mr. R. WARD, the House re solved Itself into h Committee of Supply. to consider of the Ordnance Estimates. The Right Hon. Gentleman raid he would detain the House but a very few minutes in introducing the Ordnionte Es timates. A variety of regulations and retrenchineuti had taken place within the last year in the depart ment of the Master-General, stud there was only a single addition in one particular branch. The general outline of the Est.ibliahtnertt for the current year, as compared with the Peace Establishment of 1788. presented only an augmentation of 47,0001.; w hich, considsTing the extended nature of the present aeivice was an extremely small addition ; and at once aheireithe pains that had been taken to make every possible reduction. He would reserve any exploit's limas that may be necessary till they Omni(' be called for. as the Estimates were read. He con eluded by moving. that a suns not exceeding 596,465/. Is. ed. be tbted fur the Chaiges of the Ordnance Land Service for the current year. Mr. BERN ETT alluded to the hardships endured by the officers of the corps of drivers, who had been. its the late artillery reduction, thrown upon half-pay ; while others. who had 'tot seen any thing like the same extent of service. retired on full pay. The whole stun saved, by the redeciinti of the full pay of several officers, was but 3,7001.: surely this ought to be restored. He particularly enume rated the case of Captain Humphreys, oue of the most distinguished officers in the service, as being peculiarly hard. Mr. BENSON concurtiof in this description of the state and services of these officers. Mr. IVAID admitted the ationoildlls situation iii which these officers stood, and also the value of their past services. He explained the manner in which the feductions were effected in the corps of drivers, and said that the amount which the regu lation suggested by the Hon. Gentleman would create would be no lees than 51.0001. for the seventeen years arrest. oil the Irish Establiihmetiti iiesidea the sum the Hon. Gentleman calculated it at. 'nisi being • question of finance, was entitled to serious consideration. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. in reply to an inquiry from Mr. Benson, respecting the in- . tention of Government with regard to the Officers of the companies of artillery drivers (educed since I the peace, assured the Honourable Member that I the exception which had been made in favour oh the 1 officers of the four coutpsnies retained out or twelve upon the conclusion of peace. arose from a stipulati entered into with Government at the !line. They were to retire on full pay. The fact i was, this species of troops were wanted. but it was cousidered snore desirable to put in the stead of mere drivers four companies of artillery, which were about to be reduced, as more efficient troopt , , expett in the notiorgeinesit of g u n s.— IThe other • paiiies had been sit once reduced +you the 'wiser, without precedent conditions, and retired oa their half-pay ; however, he Wool satisfied the Noble Lord at the brad of that department would not fail to add his twinges% reconintendation to any jibt c! inns , stni•lt could be tiede by any of • the cfricers who imagined limy were aggrieved. The House might then follow up the application bit an Address to the Crown. if it should he con sidered that such claims were just and satisfactorily made mit. Mr. R. WARD recapitulated the statement of the Right Hon. Gentleman pmciredisig. It true, the officers of pert of the force reduced hail no great chalice of returning to the service argils.. This was the natural. effect of the terms upon which they hied hero Arst . embodied and tiler, re duced, there not having beets given a winnow of any kind to the eight troops originally reduced at. the pruclemstion or peace. Mr. Basnerr regretted shit there were other in stances of a c ulpable inuttention to the meritorious . services ofofficers reduce:el after serving the hest part of their lives—he .to the corps of Royal Irish Artillery. several of the officers or whiCh, after a service of twenty-one years, were turned adrift onn totally inadequate lialf-pey. and also renewed the assurance that they never should he again employed its terrier. Mr. Benson considered the case of these officers perfectly imigart. Their ease was one of 'Peculiar hardship. and lee earnestly hoped his Hon. Friend *Mild not lose sight or this object, but pleas it npon,the attention of the Noble Lord at the head of the Ordnance. ..... The Chairman, Mr. BROGDRII, begged the Committee to recollect that• No motion fur an ad ditional grant could now be entertained, without mowing an Address previously to the Crown. Mr. - Forties complintented the Government upon the disposition to economize displayed in the Esti mates of the services For the present year ; but con sidered the .case of officers, particularly those who lead distinguished themselves in the glorious achievement!' of the loot campaign, as eminently entitled to the grateful recollection of their country, when compelled by Circumstances they could not control, to relinquish, much against their inclinidion, that service which Most have been endeared in them from the recollection that it hid been the theatre of their earliest and most felicittuis exertions. After a few observations from Lord Cocn RAN e, the cooversation was dropped.—The Resolution was agreed to. The several following grants were also put and ca►ried 21,419 L I7r. 2d. to make good the deficit fur the Land Ordamme Service Of 11111. • 115,809/. 196. 11d. fur the Ordnance Service of Ireland. • 1133,408/. fur Allowance to Superannuated Officers, Sick andWitunded Officers Pension., Stc. fur Great Britain, in 1818. 11,4081. for similar Allowances to Officers of Artillery and Enttowers in Ireland. 10,1941. 7s. led. for Allowances to Widows not pro ;ided fur by Parliament. 29,279!. fur Allowances to amperanuided Officers and Inlowe Pensions connected wia• the Ordnance Service in Great Britain ' for the year 1818. 4,1881. Bs. 3d. to retired Officers on the Ordnance es tablishment for Ireland. 4,0001. for repairing the sea walls of Portsmouth sad Heider Hospital, damaged by the Isic violent storms. The Report was then brought up, and ordered to be received on Monday next. . . SANK RESTRICTION CONTINUED. The Ciusceld.ua of the Eictiagusx brought tip the Bank Restriction Continuation Aht, which he swayed should be rend a first lime. Sir CHARLES MONCE regretted, that the Right Hon. Gentleman should have, by his self-congra tulations on the subject of the prosperity of the financial system of the country, effectually, for a time, deceived him—and with hint the country. 'file Right Hon. Gentleman had stated, there had been a saving effected of 1,000,000/. fee the year, whereas, upon • reference to the accounts 'nude out, he could not discover more than 10100,000/. saved to the country. He ,wished to know whether, in this saving, the Right Hp's. Gentlemen included the sum which would be faired, through the oper ation of the system of funding, lay the Saving and other Banks, iu Goverisinent securities. The CHANCELLOR of the hXclieQuktt should be Sorry voluntarily to have deceived the Ron. Baronet, but begged him to he ossified, on a cadre hccurute reference to the accounts, he wouldolltid himself mistaken. He could also assure him, that the total sum saved did not include in it the produce of the banking establishments alluded to—they formed a distinct and separate. account altogether. Sir CHARLES MIONCIII should feel much ratisfac tion in this assurance, if he could Hatter himself there was no reservation which might , hereafter ope. rate as a drawback to the agreeahle !ntelligence. The Bill was then read, and ordered to be read second nine' on Friday next. . • Mr. GRENFELL could not help Viewing this ter newel of the Bank Restriction Act, although fiat loy one year, as the certain precursor of the restrie ttrin becoming permanent. As the object of the Right Hon. Gentleman was confessedly to render Bank paper the principal currency of the country, lie once more begged to know, whether it was also his intention to devise means whereby the public might derive any part of the enormous profits made by the Bank upon the transaction of the business Of the nation. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rested he must disclaim any such intentimi, as un worthy of the character of the House or the coun try to originate there. He newer could consent that the House, or the Oxidic for whom it acted, should, in contradiction to the dignity of its cha racter, participate in the profits arising from the continuation of the restriction of cash payments by the Bank. The CHATICYLLOR of the Excuttivas intro duced the Private Bauk Nute Bill, which was reid a tint time. _ _ Sir Jo nit NEWPORT wished to hear from the Right Hon. Gentleman, whether it was intended the second stamp on private Bank notes should bt alsoaccostipanied by ritiadditional duty. Ile must soy, from his view of the subject, he feared t he consequences of this Bill wool., be to increase the power, wealth, and influence of the Bank of Lug land, which was already ton considerable. The CHANCELLOR of the EkCsa,4luna said, the stamp duty on these notes would still . remaiss the How t h e c h arge was to be defrayed he had not yet determined. lfe thought it would be as judicious a way of managing the expense, to vote a sum from the public money. as an iiideninitication for the charge thus incurred: thus the hanker would be empowered to reissue his paper without any siecessity for ancuroing fresh expenses of • '' statitvit an new isske ul noses. Ile, however, did not pledge himself to ►uch a proposition. Sir JOHN N meow*. stated, that several bankers in Ireland had collected considerable rinentitirs of cash, oU ou understanding that the Milk al tto renew its cash payments. The marry thus drawn front the Bonk of Ireland, lir was 'Nippy to assure the Right lion. Gentleman. whatever he might have heard to the contrary, still remained in he country. Thr CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was happy to hear he had been misinformed. Mr. GKENFEI.I, suggested the propriety of tie 'reducing a clause to regulate the lino oli I.f stock or property in the funds ' to , be ceased to securities for issues of private Bank paper. • A hundred pounds in the five per ettits. WaS obvi ously more valuable than. a 10(1/. in Etcherpier bills, yet from what he had just hewed; they were to he considered equivalent securities. l lips cer tainly required reviviem. • The CH•NCEI.I.OK or the E,CHEQUER, ad mitted that this topic would form a very proper subject of arrangethent its discussing the Kill in Committee. • General THORNTON rose amidst cries or Ques. lion ! Question !" and the few words he tidelievetei 16 the Howe were perfectly inaudible. Mr. Alderman ATKINS contended that the,Bank of &gland had wetithered the storm, lad 'finally obtained the character • for respectability and competency which it now enjoyed, principskly owing to the credit and confidetice reposed iii it for a certain number of years, when it, from circumstances, was impossible it could have lined in specie, or that ito issues or, paper did tint ex ceed the co.') in its coffere. ; if it might he per mitted to compare small things with great, he would say, a somewhat similar indulgence ought to be•af forded to private bankers', and not only tirCe given them to take up their outstanding notes, but the subject generally should be treated With that pru dent delicacy with whiCh a matter of so fragile ,a twine as credit should be on all occasions handled, The Bill was ordered to he read a second time on Monday se' •glit, and printed. SURGERY REGIII.ATION mu. . Mr. COUIITCNAY moved the *rah's rendinr. of for Sorgety Regulition Bill, lie refrained from entering into the minute exapituition of the clauses of the Bill for the preient, althoingh some of them, he edinitted, contained matter which had excited considerable apprehension on the pert of the Col leges in !rebind. It had been aiSerted li t trti tioiiers to that House, that the object of the Bill Was to create a monopoly on the part of the College of Surgeons of London. Nothing could be more unfounded, except it was contended they reduced that effect by extacis;tig a contenting power over the affairs of the prolession. Ito fir as prohibiting men from clidetigering the lives of his Mejesty's toils. yin,. through tetcompetency in the profession they presumed to tamper with. The Bill proposed to stibject the candidates to an examination before the College., and cm exhibiting a Comp vtent knowledge, to tiolinit them to practise. • The expe rience and superior improvements of later Stays had rendered this mode of examination isidiepeentebly necessitrv, Of , dig merits or the Bill, the House could hardly be at present *wan., and he would suggest, that the beat way would ne to allow the Bill to be read a second time, and afterwards dis cosi lta several provisions in a Committee of the House. , Sir CHARLES MONCK hoped the House would not interfere with a profession met the insulterr or the Ctirporation of Surgeons of this city, •This Cot poretion had an obvious interest in compelling per son. professing surgery to take out a diploma in that College, paying fot the same a certain sum of money. Now, the Corporation had been accused of exams g candidates for a diploma its very slovenly and negligent manner—and were hot therefore very likely to be competent persons to superintend the profession throughout the cairn- . try us well as in London. The regulations might be good, but he was averse to beginuitie at 'the Wrong end—the lion. 'Member not sheering that the country . practitunters were incompetent, or that the regulatioits had become necessary through the miscooduct or the profession •geiterefly. Its ?der, it was granting a Bill containing tegulations Hod restrictions upon a most reopecteble proles letti, at the instance of the, parlt. Wiiicu were to he benefited by the measure sought fur. The Charter of the Corporation of the College of Sui geniis in I.:CtilibUtgli might to art as a IhraCOli to the House, for the Act having empowered this Col lege to raise the fees u n a diploma granted Fly the College, they from time to time raised the fees on a diploma from 30/. at, which it first stood, to at last 1501,—(Heur.)— I it flirt, should this Bill pass, thete was no security to the House or the public that its any case of caprice or pique, the College would grant a diploma it all. lie concluded with movieg, That the Bill be read a second time. this :nowise. • • • • Mr: W. DUNDAS' deluded the comlnet or this tenticislar College, the fees having Only mcreaseel iii an exact ratio with the expense gone to in the education of its students, and the advantages to be derived therefrom. Mr. ‘VALDF.GRArk recommended the subject to the most serious 'consideration of the House, as pregnant with the most Vital consequkcee to sos• cols. In a late instance, he had known of the• most imprudent, if not criminal conduct on the part of N country chemist, who, notwitlistainling the regular surgeons bad declined the Digerati 44 •• Complied With the caprice of the pirenti of a child, and inoculated it with the small pax: The Ouse "perigee of which was, a ilisseminieriett of ills dread tot disorder, with all itebtniefill and deadly etitiae ipienteo. in I populetil diittict. • Mr. Nut reprobated the Wed r•f legislating upon a single fact, howeier tespertahle the autho rity by wheat' authenticated. The Bill professed to be one merely to mediae the adeniiet of stu drupe to practise ; yet a line or two after it Stated, without even its having beets attempted to lit peew ee'', *, that whereas, owing to the ill.trestaieut and want of skill in time professicos, enemy patients had been materially injured, and several destroyed." Wes this then merely a Bill of regulation, or was it not rather one of imputation, amid that of the most alarming and prejudicial The College of Dublin, as well as oilier bodies, was inimical to the Bill, though not to its priiiciide. TT • iv;i4 lUlnliinl r.. 1;... pi ilThlpit the Rd . Itti-l1 - for if it were sufficient for itperty meretv to eposoir lieftire it certain liimrd hoot . thet - be sofpposeil sorb Board would be directly influenced by Unelected noriiives), in order to procure a licence or idyl on' payment of u sum of .money, it was to be fenced• that the preetice vetothl soltilwrely de generate into one br • conniderable Hittite. It was natural to suppose n competition would soon entered -into between the several bodies also hail a power to grant 'teepees, for the purpose of pro curing the greatest quantity of fees. The testimonials they granted, the greater would lie lbter pruAt.: It Would tie evidently to their divine taige to. grant its many es tuerelesie, it uppeered to him, tied unless they had some oilier teat of ability, beyond a mere diploma, a great abuse would be generated. On this account he should• oppose the Bill bring curried into a law. %Virli respect to Ireland, where, he believed, the profeesion was most respectably carried on , ho would not attempt to regulate-it there, without fur ther eddence of the necessity of legislative inter feretice. In 3784, alterations of a beneficial chortle ter were Made in s . tlte College of Surgeons of Dub lin, without which their new Charter would not hive been granted to them. By those regulations, au appren ticeship was rendered necessary, before sit individual entered till the profession, iusteed of a mere appearance hethre the sad reeeisitit dipfouto In the Bill now hefore the House,- there was a chose, which set fdrth, that surgiesl assistauce was often umewary in practising midwifery—sod, therefore,. every person ',coiling thatificaneb of the pro fession, Audit nlso.have a license fur acting as a surgeon By this means. e double impoyition would be levied horn persons Reboot as aecomeheare, which appeared to be stsipist and unnecessary, : The bight How. elentiernan then referrett to the teenaged charte made by tbe.,College of Surgeons of Eiliuhurglo, as a conducing porofthat if this Bill were car ried into effect, its provsaious would be resorted to as the mesas of procuring very large profits. An conclusion, lie observed that the Hou. Gentleman hail proceeded its a most extraordinary manners be had abandoned his own child he had pointed out all its defects...and then very inotkstly caned on the House to take care of it.—!.Q laugh ) Sir J. N rwPORT NNI , that, before persist dna Bill into a law, they should look, not at what the Colleges slid at per sent, but to whst„.under its provisions, they were likely to do. If Story were relieved from all competition-cif a. spirit of monopoly were suffered to pemail--what would be ohc event ? A very fair idea of it might be formed, [rout what was stated with reseect to the College of Edinburgh. If the . Bill were passed, they would never.wish to time a licentiate at all. The fee us granting that was small—but they might charge attest they pleased on a upturns—therefore they would discourage the one and encourage the ullen.-.( 'fear, bear.)—The consequence of this would o bit, that examination would imam. become a mere Pores--because those whose duty it watt An ermine would look only to prullt, and not to die skill and ability of the applicant. Mr.COVATENAY said, as the arose grebe House Itin""lf ed to he opposed to the measure, be would out attempt Is. press hear J Mr. D. GILBERT wall of opinion, that there ought to be Pottle sell, ilowe proof uf the akill of individualsastting up in this profession, in order that the public might know what degree of coulidence ought to be placed In them. thn this point something ought to be done—bet he was to greeting the power of examitiation and of exacting fees, iu consequence, to any Corporate Body. Residence, as in she Universities, together with certificates of practice,. would probably ensues the purpose of checking she evil conspleiu. ed of better thou asty:othee mode.; •1 Mr. Bottwat.t. eougratelated the House on the determi nation of the Him. Gentleman who brought in this He stayer saw a mere exceptionable measure. It aught : ro Weaned the Surgery Game Lei, intended to elseck.poarb. ere, sad coolie* the,practice to a few persons. By itamiuri. sinew every indiVidual who wished to set up in the profession would. lie obliged to go through the gateau( the College, end pay turnpike for the penalisation. That every,persoe whit ventured to.drow a tooth should heconse a Member of the College of Surgeons, %%es one of the most ridiculous prole). sitiens he ever beard. . Tim Bill was that. ordered to be read a second time this day six mood's.: • CM PLOYIIENT OF THE. POOR . Mr. Alderman 11'oins said, is risiag to move for leave to bring in a Bill, fur the better F.anployment of the Poor, atom particularly in Ireland, he did mot feel it necessary, altboagli the subject was of great 'importance, to take up tench fa the time of the House There were already two Bills ill existence un this subject, Inis tbry both waisted very eon sblerable anseisdniesit. He hoe+ that many individuals could semi capital to Ireland, to be employed there, if they were not afraid that they would, smiler certain CirrinigiEncr., I!, made liable for Inure thee they had contributed At renews millions of persons were naemployed in that country, aril the Bill be should now move for leave to bring in, had for its object to procure employeseat et cap.tal there, earl, itidiiidmal being only liable foe the amount employed by him, which should. be duly registered. Without Girth s , preface he should move—. For have to bring in a Bill to promote the employment of the pout in the fisheries, trade, said usanufactares of Great issiflOo and Ireland, by regulating sad ercuuragiog part neradsipp." The SitilLtll said, it was inconsistent with the forms of the fliitise • to bring in such a Bill on the moment. A Measure of this mature most grow out of the resolution of $ Committee. The Hun. Member mita, therefore, move for CAinimittee to consider the subject. Aldermaa Shea moved, ".That this Howie do ✓esolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to con sider the bet mesas of promoting the Euiployment of the Poor," Ise. Sir. r. Cities vett. did not mean to.otopoie the motion—but he wished to take the earliestt opportunity of stating to his lion. Friend what be conceived to be the object of the Hill. Ile understood that it was meant to 110 away with all the existing lass of this tountry fur the seenrity of trade snit manufectaires. He alluded to the Sth of Geo. I. to prevent the formation of joint-stock compauies. If he mulerstood his Hon. Friend correctly, the projected was fur the direct encouregement of jonst.stuelt.companice—to enable - . persons to enter into partoerships; with respect to trade and inasufacheres, on subscribing certain sums of money, said relieving them from any liability beylllld be sum which they subscribed. This. weak! strike at the very root of the trade and commerce of ibis cautery. Hs knew such a system was allowed in Ireland, and on the Coutiment, where ca pi ta l was extremely limited. But it was so contrary to retry principle on which• this commercial country bad stied, thae, if such were the assure of .the measure about to be introduced, be ihindil feel it his duty to give it his opposition in every stage. Mi. Alderman Woos) said, the Bill -was net istreded to have the effect which his Hon. &read supposed. There were already two Acts on the subject, the 1111111 and 5171 h of the Kiug. The measure be couniapbsted was, to give great !'" security to penmen, sod additkieni.dheility to the trans ti.r it capital from this, or othereenseries, to Ireland. The great capitalist could net be moth affected by the memoir, wild it would cettitialy meant the lauded proprietors. He buried, rveu if the asessmemere set used un erre, that it would he 'suffered to apply to leased. Mt. Gager/au. said, it the measure were introduced for the mere purpose of mead* thoisw is Ireland, he would nut oppose it. But be casetivell- its effect would he to in tro.'uce a New law is Begisad. He wished to know, whe ther it would not allow sad legalise persons in this country to deposit, for purposive of trade, a limited capital, and er n iter them liable only for .sum awbeeribed! lf that were the case, hip objeetioa remained sweltered, and he should oppose the Bill on every opportunity. Sir J. NEKIPORT hoped, however the measure ought to 1» disposed of, with respect to England, that it would be entertaised as far as Inland was emicernedi so far as the two measures alluded to by Ist worthy Alderman bad been acted oat, they had operated most beseheially for Ireland. They came recommended to Abe Irish Hoses of Commune Ly nu muss audierity.. Aar were essetiosed ,sad sup. *f 1