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he Id ey '~_ '.?e ,ia life, and had therefore talked in the Isnguage of t h at p r ofession, to which he was bred, " of a chal lenge for came " He begged. however, as a pro fessional man also, to remind the Right Honour able..GentlismeW, that there were in our law two amts of challenges, and that the other of them Was " a challenge of the array," by which last the law provides that no public officer shall chose his own Jury, and he was astonished the Right Hon. Gentleman sho %Ist attempt to take advantage of being tried by .t iiiminal of his own nomittatinn. One thing had :den solicit him must forcibly. His Hon. Friend who brought forward this Motion had ohjeeleil to the name of tite Noble Lord, and in the whole course of the debate not one reason had been given against this objedtirin The simple question comes then fine to this, will the public be satisfied with the nature of this proceeding? He did not think it would: and, as he wished the House to re vise t: eir decision in the appointment of this Com mittee, he should vote for the Motion, and hoped the Nosie Lord's name would accordingly be ex puoged from the li.t. Mr. WINDHAM said, that last night, immedi ately before the House separated, he gave notice of a Motion which, though different in its nature, was similar in its effees to the present; he should, there fore, deliver his sentiments on this, because, after it were disposed of, he could mak; his own motion, which related to himself. withoutany further com ment. lie Alf. himself in similar circumstances, in many respeas with the • Nohle-Lord. He had far some pears AEted in unison with the Right, H on . Gentlemen, and therefore might be supposes} to en ter:Ain some sentiments of partiality and attachment to him. lie thought it extremely pioper Member should being with them dispositions of impartiality, and especially into a Committee of this kind, which he loped wonlsi be .an chive, zealous, scrutinising, and Accusius Committee, eppointed to investigate MAC important matters ; and, in conducting euch a Committee, imper i Alit y was certainly necessary. t Tis is not all. It is to search into evidence, and report to the !fuse, and then the House will form their judgment whether the report be good. %%ith resneet to the mode of forming this Committee, he tiouitht that theoretically there was no way ef doing this but by lists, and nut to expect to chose ore from one side, and another from the other, and o netoritlise them so as that the acid may correct the alcu:ai, and the Alculsue the acid, in equal portion,; but whet nosy be theoretically right may be pnicti cMr wrong. He. therefore, did not object to taking advice as to the Hate; but if there were a great many t. ..so i, 2.., i our inseance, and all the names nit only were the same in each, but All put down iii the same order, it sheets 1 communication, and secret understanding between the parties ; and if a thalienging An enquiry sent this list oriei -. uld -- lock on it in any other light He should not vote for any disqualified from his con accused, aid must con as reasons for challenging I House will let his name - Committee. He thonght contradion of the powers of the' extremely wrong, and would' en- , teas proposed to answer. Ailing according to puth; haps be so. In many cases the question, and when that use ought seriously to consider - public with candour and fraok- Czoer's wife, they miry not may be ',Fleeted. kly dividing the powe:s s Househave left out .t pent, Auld important. These rest:sees op. became necessary the House '-. °pillion, when that WAS red public would otherwise :mi n trust to their proceedings. If mittee, it must be ander a pin. iiintarily he did so. lie would enntenance to proceedings on with confide nes, and which oily disapproved, because he their effecis. \ Gli said, that not consider , against himself, but against . louse, in having nominated him on the list, he slid pot complain of it. lie was sorry the House bed appointed him one of the Committee ; but insensible to the arguments of the Him. Gentleman, as to being disqualified front AA ing oe it fur any of the reasiens he had assigned. He insisted that the situation he stood in, with re gard to his Right lion. Friend, wee no objetAiOn t and this Committee was very different front an Election Committee, which being a judicial privet d ing. and no person allowed to be absent dunug each de)'; sitting, his public official ditty made it necee• sire fer him to state the ince.nvenieucies that, in such case, would arise to the public service, had he been ballotted on such a committee as that. He confessed his uniform and undiminished, attachment to his Right Hon. Friend ; and whether that was of such a description as to be the eubjel of ohjehlion, ova; for the House to consider. As the Committee Was rather of a judiciary nature, and at his time of life it was such as his habits had not been schooled is, he was inelineJ to wish the House would revise their decision, and expunge his name from the list, if they were of opinion he was in any degree ieesleiehste to the due perfortn Ince of the deities of it. As to what had bees: said of the situation he heist in Leland, and the Jelieete trans e eions alluded to at that pert-id, he would venture to say. their never Was a transothiou in which a greetee sacrifice of political interest and authority was mode (.4 era of firer! Hear ! Rear !I, than by those who ' voted for ;he public union of the two countries. Re sealling the charge said to have been made by his Right lion Friend near him (Mr. Foster), he was sure the if he had conceived it would be taken in the way it was, he would never have brought it for wet el in that manner. (r 4 'reiterate..." of lie'''. ! Hear! Beer !) He did not, however, consider it as any charge of corruption. Having thus notit.ed the prin cipai arguments which had been used against him,he bee Zed to call the etieetion of the House to the extra. ordinary manner in which every circumstance war. stuaismoy laid hold of, that could possibly raise at, ' odium again - :i; Rt. Hon. Frier 1 h o h 4 d };d in e d s o w a high and dew: sly exalted character, by his great exertioos in the service of his country, while de Hen. Gentleman opposite bad abandoned his post ,ause men, :nun- and the pohlit by from the House, when the country was in the greatest danger and deepest distress. The Hon. Gentleman oppo site, however, was now high in his encomiums on the proceedings of the House of Commons, be cause they answered his present views and purposes; whenever they should do otherwise, he supposed he would resort to the newspapers again, as well as to those clubs and other places in which he had so of en mentioned their proceedings in the rpost de. grading terms. He believed it was not quite regu lar to allude to any former debate ; but when argu ments were brouh;ht forward for such purposes,-he thought liimselfjustified in adverting to circum tan ces and trinsaaions some time past ; and thou g h the lion. Gentletban was now so loud in his eulogies on the proceedings of the House of Commons, he thought he could not easily so neutralise his lan guage as to persude them to trust the safety of the country to his hands, after the principles he had so repeatedly professed. He begged pardon of the House for having detained them so long, and left the question relative to himself entirely to them. Mr. GREY said there were some passages in the latter part of the Noble Lord's speech, which it was absolutely impossible for him to pass unnoticed : a more disorderly speech he had never heard since he had the honour of a seat in that House. It was nei ther more nor less than an attempt to vilify the cha rafter of the House of Commons, and he appealed to the Chair itself, whether such language were COO sisteut with the honour and dignity of that House,? ' His Honourable Friend (Mr. Fox) was attacked in a most unwarrantable manner ; his condua h ad hen cans assed and misrepresented. The Nolde Lord should have stated what his Hen. Friend really had said, who had done as himself had on a former occasion. He had abstained from e.ving his vote when he despaired of its being serviceable to the country (a ,ry of hear! hear!). He then went into a general defence of Mr. Fox's speech. He consideted that whets a Minister was to he in some degree the subjeCt of inquiry, the House should look very narrowly into what persons they should nominate to be Members of that Committee, pard; caul) , when the subjeet of inquiry was official abuse. Where a party was so closely connected in office as the Noble Lord with the Rignt Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Pitt),they should -look with anxiety to the choice they were about to make. The Noble Lord himself m ght he subjeCt to inquiry ; he was ' a Minister actin; along with the Noble Viscount, who was the principal subjc!l of this inquiry, and might have been the very person to whom the . mosey was paid, which had been misapplied. He might be affeded by the charge that had been an isle, and he gave :so answer. With Tripe& to the trans anions at th.- time of the Union, the Noble Lord had passed a Ingo panegyric on the Irish Pashas meat, and gave himself credit for what he termeJ a meritorious ad, in sacrificing private interest to public duty. That sacrifice, however, was obtained . by the purchase of private bwoughs with the public money. His Lordship had been harged with this but he did not cternot a word in his own vlndicer lion. At one time !le says there is no charge ;he desired he might ask WO: Honourable Friend next him (Mr. Pitt) whether there ; was or not ?—. He was charged with givit* money for the pur chase of votes. That charge morel against Ow Nulls llrrd, let him answer its enfold he screen 'aimsey, like persons who refused to acknowledge their elinquency, under the clause ?He should, however, only say for the present, that the charge , had been made, and no answer whatever had bee* given. With resped to feelings, were h.: to change situ di.ms with the Noble Lord. and be accused moo shrink from the charge, without giving an otiegnivocal denial, he should feel disgraced, and stand in the situation of a delingnent. Abuse of office WAS the sullied of the present investi gation. Public corruption was the subjeft of this inquiry ; he, therefore, would ask waether the Noble Lord WAS a proper person to be upon that Committee? but when the question was agitated, the Gentlemen on the other side found it necessity to *her themselves under the proceedings of the• ouse, and ay that he and his friends were endea- . vouring to vilify the charaeler of the House, by ah ;edits; to certain na nes in the hit for the Committee. If those names were liable to 4.bjeSions, there was no other way of shewing that but by the mode his Hon. Friend had taken, and for which he deserved the greatest thanks With respell to the m ide of . ballot, the theory which was used in the present case was not applic able in any other. When he abuses of Government were the matters of complaint ; at a time when the people, loaded with taxes, were look ing with the greatest anxiety to that House for re dress, it was their duty to adopt the most efficient method of bringing delinquency to light, and doing that justice which was expelled at their hands, But his chief objeehon was to the quarter from when .e those lists had been circulated ; a quarter where the power was great, and influence might be pratlistel. The Rigor Hon. Gentleman had expiessed the great personal delicacy which . he telt upon this sub jea, but he declared he cqtrlcl not see any such ; upon the whole, therefore, he consideted that those names should be expunged from the list. The ATTORNEY GENERAL, having made some observations upon the use of ;mitotic opinion, which he considered a reasonable mind should not at all times surrender its better understanding to, said, he considered the Home was discussing a question which they had already disposed of; namely, the General Meaiure of proceeding by Ballot to appoint a Committee. The sort of Com mittee the Honourable Gentleman on the ether side (Mr. %Vindham) wanted, was an accusing Com mittee; if that was his object, and not to render merely justice between the parties, the present Com mittee would not answer ; but the House wanted an impartial, enlightened, and enquiring Commit tee (a lead fry of hear bear!). He would protest, that in order to attain the ends of Justice, the Committee should not be composed wholly of ac cusing parties. The Commatee which the I ion. Gent. thought best was a ballot Committee ; this measure WAS etreCted, and, there was no doubt, would report truly the facts which came before them. The Ho nourable (es tlemanrequired there should be sturdy .norality used in this investigation. In those names. which appeared on the Committee, there was no want of zeal an the part of some of them, at least, 70 bring the tufts Is- fore the House. The Honour able Gentleman (Mr. Whitbread), who 41 taken. interest nr;th3rawin MINIM rtf cw active a part, wit io be found upon thi' list and the House might be well assured Oa 'hey had got on that committee all the material• which would lead to the investigation of truth. I h rhea a !veil, i to the several finalities which recom user !ed the proceeding by ballot to form a Com mittee : and, in allusion to Mr. Windham's &chi ration to have his name expunged from the Com mittee, he said, from all the circumstances of th case, from the individnal feeling, horn the public charaaer and private sentrations at that lion. Gen tleman, he et-twittered he was the very charaefer he tadapted to be upon t'ne Committee. Ile was perfeftly sure that the Honourable Gentleman did not want for zeal in the cane ; he was the very epitome of all the good qualities requisite for such an undertaking, and i: would be a great pity he should not he one of them. With resped to the other Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Whitbread), who it ap peared would do his duty with more satisfatainn it the Committee was appointed as he wished, he Was satisfied their ol.jeet was to discover truth. and -tete& guilt. There was, no doubt, from the zeal, itefivity, and perseverance of that Hon. Gentleman. they would be able to procure every information, and the objets of the Committee would have their fullest effe,9, as it was now chosen. k-le therefore thought the mode by which the Committee hart b ern appointed was more calculated to attain diet, purpose, than that proposed by the Honourable Gentleman. Mr. Wit. on Ala, and the AT roomay GLNERAL, severally explained. Mr. ROlll .RT THOTiNTON thought that 60 Member could succeed in getting a list of twenty one members chosen, unless he consulted with his friends upon the suhjed. A supposition had Leen thrown out that these lists came from Gentlemen who were of His Majesty's Government. He did not mean to disprove that position, but there might have been Opposition lists circulated. The No ble Lord, who was said to be an improper person to -be upon this Committee, might prevail upon his friends to put certain names in their lists. What, then, did tile lists come by magic ? Were they ? and was every Member obliged to vote according ly ? He had received one of those lists ; hut he cled not vote explicitly from it. He exercised his own discretion: he voted as he thought proper, and felt justified in the vote he had given. Mr. MARTIN (of Galway), after some preli minary observations, said, that should he obje,!t to any man's being nominated to sit in a Committee, it should not be because he was in office, or out of of fice, but he should entirely be guided by such a per son's condua in both situations. If he found him corrupt in office, and unprincipled out of it, he would objeft to such a man's being nominated to any Committee (a bad crri i f Quest/G/4 ! Ques;ion ! Chair! Cuter !). He then said, he would en deavour to be as brief as possible, and confinit his reply to one particular part of the Noble Lord's (Castlereagh's) ipeech. A great clamour had been raised by persons who had voted against the union, and much had been.discussed upon that subject ; although he himself had voted for that m-asere originally, when he came 'to this country, he had many reasons for repenting of that vote, se t rue of which he said he should talce.the liberty of stating to Ow House. (14 , -r there era, a =tares, cry gt Ni! No / he .1 Q.t.!! iloa Ql4 414.04 I Chair ! Chwie Which, upon % .. Ir. Manna's attempting to proceed, encesased to a great degree ; asFlen , . The Sl*EAKER.observed, that it was his duty I to tell the Hon. Member, that his observations did not at all bear upon the question then before the Huse. NIT. MARTIN answered, that he thought they might be applied in answer to the Noble Lord. The SPEAKER repeated his former ob•erva tion, and the question being loudly reiterated from all parts of the House, the strangers were ordered to withdraw. The House then divided, and there appeared, For the Motion 86--Against it 219—Majority 133. Strangers were not again admittod to the Gal lery ; but we understand that Mr. Windham, pus suant tq his notice, moved that his name should I e expunged from the list. On this the House divided. For the Motion, SO—Against it 207.—Majority, I`27.—Ailjourned at TWELVE o'CLOCK. The Con,,non Conned of the city or London yesterday voted a Petition Co Parliament,. s agyest the Catholic Question. • . , • An hosti!ss feeling was Aso expre -d sgStiSt thai measure, at hho. late Elektion of Mr. CI ATCAN, for •(ember of Parliament for the Borough of Mahon; in Yorkshire. A Letter from Dublin, of the 16th, state:, that the Corporation of •that City, at their General loaner Assembly, also voted a Petition to Partia- • :nent against the Catholic Question. A report prevailed last night, that the Tonloti telt had effe:led a, junftion with the sqtridivn at Ferrol, and that Sir dons OMR had been compelled o abandon far a time the blockade of Cadiz.—Thee had again put to sea, but their destination was not 4:flown. • • Dispatches were yesterday reeeiVed at the Admi ralty from the Commander of the Channel fleet. They were landed at Plymouth from . the Afetarepat frigate on Sunday. They are reported to contain information of the Brest Beet basing again indicated a determination to put to sea. An animated debate took place last night in the House of Commons. While the Members com posing the Minority were in the lobby, ilk. Sam _ one informed them that he understood theite woold be no objeftion on the part of the Minister m light- • tended Motinu for a vote of thanks to the Commis- • sioners of Naval Enquiry; yet, as he thought there might be some manoeuvre Made use of, such as the previous question, or the like, for the purpose of pressing a division ; he gave notice that their aitt i nd. ance would be neressarv. • Yesterday morning, about nine o'clock, thelloTAL FAMILY left Windsor. Her MAJZSTY and the Pe tricessts arrived at the Queen's-house at twelve. The Kimo went by Richmond, whey' His JESTY changed horses, and proceeded to Blackheath, and dined with the Princess of Wates, from which • place His MAJESTY arrived at the Queen's-haw about five o'clock. In the evening, tee Rovat. FAMILY honoured Covent-Garden "Thaatie with their presence. Princess AUGUSTA remains at Windsor, on ac count of 'hr o f The Gazette of last tight gives no re, that a . I r. yee will be held at at. ,:ass day — and Drawing-room. to-morrow, Yesterday, the RUSSIAN Alta Asssisoa transeflesil business at Lord MusonsveS Office, from lfailpast One tut three. The Klee has been pleased to appoint wit.trA Bt.' oil, Esq. to be Captain-General and Governor in Chief, in and over the settlement of New booth Wales. New York Papers have been received to tie 16t, of March. One of them mentions a report sate to have been broiught by a vessel from Cape Fran cois, of DEsss to us es having, on the 28th of Febru ary, defeated the French garrison at the town of St. Domingo, and massacred the greater part of the Spanish inhabitants. This rumour, however, is not stated as deserving of any credit. " A letter from the Hague, dated April 20, says.— " M. S.chimmelpenninck was employed. in conjunc tion with Admiral De Winter, in taking maim*s for the futur • organisation of the Dutch Marit4. He is also employed with the General in Clod Marmont, and the Batavian Lieutenant-Gegen' Dumoncean, in organising the Dutch Army. uts result of these measures. however, doss not appear to consist in so considerable a redutti ni as was 4t first announced. It is understood that it is re- . solved, that the cavalry shall be reduced to three • regiments, and the infantry to eight. The forintr to consist of a regiment of heavy cavalry a regi w ment of dragoons. and a regime* of hussars. s and the infautry of tie present twenty-one bat talions, and the chasseurs. Each regiment will con tain 1400 men, consequently the army of tee republic will consist of only 15,000 men, instead of. 21.000. including the artillery." An old sulky Gentleman lately asked, why so many people ventured in the Lottery ? His Friend answered, .0 FORTLNE is blind, and if you don't throw yourself in her way, she wo'n't stumble on , you." Yesterday. five Priamen were rapiially c•noW t.l at the Old Bailey foe stealing wool, and two bro thers for hotise-breaking. If, according to the old adage—" The fi rst Blow is half the Battle," it is submitted to the votaries of Fortune, whether an attempt to hie the First Drattn Number, that is entitled to 1 0, 0001 . in the present Grand Lottery, be not an objet cf much count- - qiience ? 'Tis huts., indeed, that there is a consider able number of otl.•er capital hits to be made in this pre-eminent Scheme ; but no wise adventurer will surely let slip an opportunisy of crowning himsdt, in the very offset of the Dran log, wit':. vicliri,sirs wealth. We trust it is the well known principle cf The Rol"- hah Pre+, to applaud merit wherever it me s he found—and, at the sa m e time, to steer clear • ITS bias, by either party In justice, thetethre, u the t. ior instance .at only were the same in ea ;-:1 the same order, it shew secret uaderstanding beta person challenging An in Ist, n he c •uld not lock then ► nominAt 7 on. He cr.. one whom he thought neCtion with the party tie vier these circumstanr.s an. himself, and request the the esponged from the I division anti contrafli but mrttee were extreinel the ly defeat the ends it .had berm accused if the nion, sad it might pelt blic op.aion made the lark: as the ease, the House he , and to treat the puLtlit L e of s, so that, like Caesar's inn, nre, hut not even sisspeet 0 . 11 of :he Committee, the Ho he that by far the most impc such ply to himself. It heca He• should satisfy the public c the sonably excited; the pul pi-41 the House, and not ti t:.e he went into the Conamitt nen- test thAt ir was not • net not consent to give cow list; which he could not enter prier he must dt‘lare be totall wted could have no hope of th He r Lord cAsTLEitEAC ras ing the charge as made a ilea- the decision of the Hot "1".""virr".""511"1"1.111111111"1"1111. 11 1 THLE Mitt I ISii. I'l,‘Efr4p: - - !e: . - 4 . I:4l)N.lFA_LWateiwir - v 1;1. aye ;of )no.: D f gut h' g, 1111 I It em t! Hou ! Ives: !co. of ,b e t fr° her' to ,ndC 01.0 le r 4% clrr BENINESS. Yesterday, a Court of Common Council was held at Guildhall, at which were present the Loeb M A Yak, eight Aldermen, and a great number of Commoners. After the usual business of the Court, at its open ing, Mr. Deputy BIRCH rose, imd in one of the must able and eloquent speeches that has been heard in that Court for some time, moved the Resolution in respeft to the Petition presented to Parliament by the Roman Catholics of Ireland, for which see the front a this Paper. Mr. SAMUEL DIXON, in an appropriate speech, seconded the same, upon which Mr. M. WOOD, seconded by Mr. JACKS, proposed the previous question ; and, after a very interesting debate, which did not finish till p.tst five o'clock, in which several Aldermen and a number of Commoners joined, the previous question was lost, and the Resolution carried on a division of iur Aldermen, fifty-four Commoners, and two Tellers, for it ; and three Aldermen, twenty-two Commoners, and two Tellers, for the previous ques tion: making a majority fur the resolution of thirty-three. - - Mr. JOHN DowLiNo was unanimously elefted Collector of the Duties nn Coals undzr the new Aft of Parliament, for the establishing a free market. The LORD NI A Y nit ordered Bread to be teduce.l an Assize, to take place to-morrow, when Om Quartern Loaf .vheaten will be sold for Is. ticl. and household Is . The KING has been pleased to constitute and ap- bias, by either par Ly. In justice, Mettinre, Its - the point the Right Hon. Cm.% a Las Lord B•au A si, Ad. artist who has so ably deirtrimOrstatl, his scientific I miral of the White Squadron of His Maitsry's knowledge of that superine ,tilt of Logravinga tha • Fleet, Sir Pluto, Srtriaans, baronet, J a iie, G A . 4 - ; lime manner, we t.ke t e litierty Of calling t"e leen. 1 airs, and Petrie PATTO4, giqrs. Vice-Admiral, tion of the piihiic t , arts fine, ari rased, _and ik. i t _ of the Red Squadron of His M AJCST v's Fleet ; V. i rig likeness of Sir F Ristrterr. ingrathei 7 b _ & Dtccirisoto, jun. LA. the flight • Hon. Sir Ev air .J• G. W A ss.osalitomtbe peiril ()taut ABM, NEPEAN, Bart. and Gtottot Sr e.wa or, Ex! (corn- Pain/err THOMAS LII s•'REV..:III. k. A, •411 . Ibti Pik monly called Viscount GA *Litt), to be His Mat. 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