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pr ,,l ti ee 1,403.0001. including its operatit.n in i r d, n a—to which country it was propssed that all the increased duties should be extended, eirrept that net spirits. Ills proposition was to increase the putt rin malt at the rate of la. /11. the biaaliel, or 94. ;J. the quarter. When he before stated his woo in the House, with reopen to this article, lir wade some calculations to satisfy Gentlemen that the tax could not operate injuriously. He wished that terry Gentleman, who swished tai forth a decided opi oinn en the subject, would examine the evidence given hefoye the Committ e e last year. lie had Ta ken tl a liberty to advert to what was stated before that (74anniittre by a most respectable G en it e , n , th , Mr. Bewley. Since that he had had a personal com munication with him, and lie would state the view file Motley hail taken of the subject, in order to comet any error he might have fallen Mr. Barclay stated, in his evidence before the Committee, that the real price of malt was fre quently 4.. lees than the price at which it was guided. Its 1818, the quoted price was 8 IS. per quarter, hut the general overage ref pm chines was 775. per quarter. At that period were Oss. per cwt. Malt was at re f, rt 63 4 . per quarter—hops were 8/. 16s. per cot. By tie it Gentleman's calculation, the total amount of the materials used in brewing is quarter of malt fr o, in 1818, a/. 19'. ; this year the same would nett cost Si. Ba. art. The brewer had, therefore, this tear a hotelier in favour of the price of his anaterial., as comported with the last, of 103.11 d. per quarter. He tbought it but perfectly fair, that the piildo !Amold derive the benefit of a portion of this orntit—(Hertel—and the calcidation was an olnicus, that the amount ass this drawn from the surplus profit of the brewer this year, as compared with the last, and that it by no means could or ought to affect the price to the consumer. which, instead of being raised in consequence, might, and he trusteel would, rather be reduced. The cdtlition of this duty was perfectly compatible stills even a reduction of the present price.—(Hear.)—The ohly remaining sitiele he had to allude to was tirine-Maile Brinell spitits—he meant spirits dis -1,11e.! England :it was not his intention t hat this ,x 1.1...iitd *atrial either to Ireland or 'Scotland. The duties he meant to impose were at the fallow in rates:—The duty on stall osamh he meant to ii.!vanee from its present rate, is.'Orl„ to 24. (in :Atones. of 3 , 1. per gcllmij; thee swear wash, lie propt.sill. should, be advanced to Os dd. per gallon ; she wine wort, Or trine wash, to 34. 6d. The ave. rite prni!tiet" of thieve duties lie eetimaterl at 500,000/. if, as had been coisjeetured, the effect of dose augmented duties would lse to reduce the coe•iimption of spirits. cod thereat, that donate Le, for one, should heartily rejoice at seeing a prcrerence given to a beverage so much more aliolesotne, and so muds more col genial to the I.eal , li and morals of the people.—(Near, hear. f Ile had conferred on the subject with snow o f the British distillers, and they claimed a protee tion from the foreign spirit-dealer in the market, and he thought that some protecting reguletion rosy become hereafter necessary on that point, which, while it may be rendered conducive to the revenue of the country. would also protect the borne trader. He trusted be had now gone through all the explanations which the nature of the case required, but if there were any further elucidation or cessal, he should be glad to give it to any lion. 111cinber who may chose to call for it upon ;my par tiesdar part of hie statement---- [Here Mr. GRERTILL put in a question. in a low tone of voice • across the table—we mould not collect that it referred to a part of the Right Hon. Gentleman's prospective financial vitwel The Right - floo. Gentleman then stated, in 'split. nation, that he tr.p.trd this would be the last tim e when a Minister of the country would feel himself imperatively called upon in a period of peace to propose either a lion, or an additimial tax to pay the interest of it. It became necessary this year to raise 19 000,000/, and upwards to balance the ear l', Ut eXperuliture for necessary Perrier. ; next year, be trusted, they should only have 4,000,0001. to raise for the saute pantos', or rather to complete the repayment of the debt to the Bank. There was afterwards no reason eo apprehend that it would be necessary to troubl: that House or the country upon so painful a subject as loans and new taxi*. When the people reflected that the resits sacrifice they were called .upon to make was to place their filmic...l upon a permanent footing, and to prevent the recurrence to fresh expedients or future har dens, he trusted that they would find consolation for any present inconvenience in their future pro spects, and acknowledge that Parliament had watched over their interests with judgment mid wisdom, oral adopted the only course which was likely to produce permanent good.—/hear.)—lle concititleal by moving the following Resolution : e That Wear& reisiag the Supply for the mew, of the current year a sum of 121,00,0001. be raised by sa. atlllloo Mr. GltEttlYEt.t. laid, he would preface his obser vations by thinking the Right Hon. Gentleman for the coui troy he had displayed in giving him the plemition he sought--a courtesy whieb he had in variably received from the ,aide quarter. The Right Hon. Gentleman had stated, that he would simplify the druids of this important question, and he had certainty fulfilled Lis promise in the dear ard per spicuous statements he had given, both on the pre. ser.t and former exerting.. It was his intention on the presions evenings to have eleiined the attention of the Committee, but he had yielded to person* gore entitled to command the attention of the House, and he treated he would now receive their indulgence white be briefly delivered his sentiments. agrerit with those who hail ea pressed their opinion that it was not only desirable, but snot expedient•thet the country should possess a surplus income over and above its expenditure, Of, in other words, what 1,1111 called .4 Otnkjug fund, ex, ceding the whole amount of the ordinary expenditure. AS • g, as others bad done, thut the revenue should keep up to its present amount, he thought it a proud sitnetion for the country, that ull Europe should see her pieced at the end of a war ( , )ii the origin or conduct of which he want to pronnuiter no opinion). in which she had anode such immense sacrifices, and displayed such un. Paralleled exertions, possessing a real, unequivocal, ulatoubted s urplus of Looo,noot above her vrltule expenditure,—efliesr, (tear.) —He would repent, th.it Ihna was a proud and enviable bitootitto for the ."utilr / y 141 Sancta to the world, ' after the wawa bun of so tremendoos ea:l protracted a realest.— , 11.1ear.)—Ile altar coacurred in °Moine r ith throw who thought it desirable and expedient that thus sinking fund of 2.000,000/. *hoof, consider ably inereaerd. There were only two possohle modes of increasing it.mone was Ity an adequate re duction of the establishments of thin cottony, anti the other by an imposition of additional taxes. After the decision upon the mode to he adopted was settled, then, lie thought, all must concur in the propriety of 'Awing the country in that attitude which ass bell calculated 10 COMM:11111 the respect of the whole world, and preserve, ss fir se human foresight canhl dtrine. a lastiag pes::e, by sheering, that she possessed the means and the energies to re sist external aggressiom if such were ever offered. Ile will, therefore, of opinion, that it was moat desir able to hive the 2,000,0001. sinking fund increased to 3,000,0001. stud that from the last auto it slinglit he still further augmented by every possible regu- I Mon and economy in the management of the ex isting revenue, and by snakiug the taxes operate in so productive a manner ris possible, until sit length Ilie . stsiking fund should by its ire n yonipoutirl, and the auxiliary mean* tifforded to it, reach such a stint as 8.000,0001. : then, tucked, their financial state would hr placed upon as impenetrable basis. 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'2,000,0001. they were Grin, with 5,000,00 a/. they would be so much better, but with 8,000,0001. where was there its Europe that power that would uttempt uggressiois iu any hope of grounding suc cess Nom any defalcation of their revenue, or ex pected derangement of their finaticee?-1 Hear, hear, hear. f —lle dui not mean to imitate (God for bid he should !) that ass,. of the nations of the Con- Maid couteniplated any such sggression—there was nothing iu their prevent temper and conduct to induce such a supposition —I Hear, hear, hear j— bot it was right that the comitry should he placed in ouch an attitude as to defy, if not to forbid mg greseion at any remote period. —( Hear, hear. ) To come directly to that subject snore home ' diatrly before them —he meant the new Inc.,, and the traiiractions connected with it—lie had only to pity to the Right Honourable Gentleman the tri bute of his approbation, nod indeed that of all those with whom lie hush conversed nium the miller, fur the plan he had devised to meet the supplies for the yrar....( !lean) —lle knew it gave smiveisal aitisfaction, txcept to the few of the public who, from a perversion of understanding, or some tither snotty, which could 1w easily guessed, would have preferred a loan of 30,000,000/. rather thin) of 12,000,(001. There was one consetineoce of the Ilan, which, for obvious reasons, gave him peculiar satisfictime though trifling if taken detachedly— lie thought it important and valuable in its result : he meant the felons! of the Batik of England to • make the instal advances upon the prevent Insp, tibia they had given upon all former ones. LI tail now the (Wok had invariably, throughout the late war, made advances to the public on the loans, but it seemed they would do /10 no more. So much the better, he was glad tli-y had not, and for two reasons; became She public would find that his ‘ '‘lr. G.'s) scheme tf *visite; motley on the l oan s. which he so often urged upon the Chancel lor tit the Est:heavier, was not only practicable bat safe-, and in the highest degree economies) for the pubic. It would now appear that the business could be transacted as the flank did, with Cafe, and at a much less expense. ills second reason was, that it exhibited the Corporation of the Rack in its true und proper colours. When i he spoke of that establishment, he begged to I be understood as speaking of a public body, and not as reflecting upon the individuals who composed it; for he should discriminate he tureen the several Directors, becanse he knew that many of them had opposed the views of the majority oat a late occasion, and had repeatedly divided Ilse Court tipou the very question of those advances; but their efforts were unavailing, and the accustomed arcomniodation to the public it seemed, peremptorily refused. He must be re coiled for saying. that in the time and matmer of this refusal, there was a littleness of feeling, a low-mindedness—to use the vulgar expresisiote there was s 'hewing of the teeth, a manifestation of spleen and opposition to the (:over iiiii rut mid coun try, which was not creditable on the part of the Batik—that Corporation now ',hewed its resent meta to the Government, whose previous sub serviency to it had been such, that it became fretful and captious the moment the Chancel lor of the Exchequer Oared to emancipate him go* from the parsamunt varies of their high and mighty authoritee. It was not wonderful that the (Rauh should assume this hauteur mi ter being so long accustomed to dictate its (1% tcrrne ; it was out wonderful that 26 Irler• chants (very respectable, he admitted) should be come, as it were, intoxicated with their sway, when they found themselves invariably consulted by the lint Lord of the Treasury and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, upon the general COIICCFIIII of the country.— tlicar.)4le congratulated the Govern ment on their emancipation from a tyranny, as dis graceful to the Government that submitted to it, as it was injurious to the best interests of the cooldry. As to the expedient of repaying the Batik by the preseot proposition of new taxis (for to that a past of it is to be applied), he thought the montant very inausliicious, slid should have much preferred that stile were postponed for another ye ar, until the taunt's bird a little snore recoatereil from the pees sure it laboured under, partly from causes which he trusted were ephemeral in their nature. In, how, eser, giving his getier.sl concurrence to the outline ' the Right Jjon. Gentlemen's plate he did not bar himself from touching upon some of its details when a more proper moment arrived fur entering into that branch of the consideretion. The lion. Member concluded by the expression of his regret at the alp:ence of his *tight lion. Friend (we pre sume Mr. Tierney), on account of indisposition; but hoped he would be found in his place to morrcex.--411eoe, hear.) Mr. blastulae said, he was not an►prised at the course of condtict pgsued by the lion. Gentleman towards the Dank, for he was only following his usual example. He thought it. however, rather extraordinary, that when the lion. Gentleman hid given notice of a specific motion, he should not I bore reserved bientelf for that opportunity to make the attack which he had m.de ou the present occa aim,. As one of the Directors of the Omsk, tit could not accept the compliments paid by the Hini. uesi k lrin i ate,tiudiv.iclusisql.tbat body, nor could he, whatever'Weradsis cariduct in their Complied* lion, consent to have their general art., met whit sweeping censure. mode altos Ilan. Gent.'s !oral:re/tong, in wetl his sourer of infoorinatiail, peared to him equally objet tionable . Wien worild he thought of ally man who would avail himself of secret information, that he knew nt‘ght not to have trarrapired, nn4 the,. iii a pablic assembly cast forthiliat information, and make it the gni )))))) I of a sweeping accination? It was totally impressitile to firm i confidential Board nr Committee, without 'mail% in it a dissentient opinion, one however which could not be divulged without no utter breach of private confidence. ‘Vliat poi lie (Mr. M.) had taken in the Courts of the hank, he was not in that [louse to state—/ Hear/--but whatever detertnina tarn the Board had arrived at, lie could assure the Committee that it bid not emanated from ally hostility to the Government—he repellent the idea that it was dictated by any such feeling as u meats 'or angry *l4rib—s(t/ear. hear.).—The Hoak hod been told, both in that llouse moil elsewhere, that they were presumptuous iu arrog sting to themselves any political power or iiitlitra.-e, and that they ought to comfine themselves to their lataking af fairs, and their own regular business. For the de, cision to which the liosuoisralde Gentlemaio had re ferred with so tench aseerbity, lie should have rather expected his praise than his censure, for his (Mr. (:reurell's) invariable demand was, that they should strictly control their issues. it was this very pito., elide to which they now adhered, and in deeliaing to make the advances upon the loan, they felt that they were effectually controlling their issues, send making those easeutial preparations which it was their duty to make to resume cash ;squirms. Sillspo..r, for instance, in the possible event of a had harvest, 'that the price of gold should rise to ea. Se. or 41. Ins. per nz. in what • souatioa would the Batik be if they issued large :Avarice. in this maiicer ? The country would then say. " that Was your own fault, you knew the time when you would he called upon to pay in cash, and it WON your drily to regu late your issues accurrlingly."—( Ilear.)--The . 1/011. Gentleman would hi elf, in such a possible event, he the looniest to declaim ',Roost the BAIA, hal they adopted, instead of rejecting, the course ponds it out. Ile repeated, once for all, that what ever opinions he may criterions on any particular measure in the Court of Directors, lie should Ainch from taking his full share of respron sthility for their public accts.—ft/ear, he:11..1-11e was above "inverting himself any where, fir touch less exist:Mon% these what weve his ()plosions sit the management of Bank affairs ; he at the same time disclaimed the imputation , ' which had heels cast *Too the Directors of the Batik by the Ilan. Gen tleman, and repelled with roulittertmee the asactuuu that they were actuated in any of their decision* by any feeling or desire to impede the measures of Government.— (ficar.) only anxiety was implicitly to enmply with the directions of Parlia ment. nor would they, mita ithstanding what had beets insiiitrated, throw out of their consideratioa the emivenience and general interests of the com munity.—(Hear, hest.) Mr. PEA RSE (another Bank Director) complain rot with warmth of the language used by the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grenfell) towards the Corporation. of which lie (Mr. P.) was a member. lie would not, however, retort upon him the acrimonious style in which he invariably indulged towards the Bank, nor charge him wills being actuated in his conduct by pique, disappointment, or revenge. Neverilie lent, he must say, that the practice of using general epithets, without coming to specific charges, Was not becoming the dignity of that House, or that proper sense of propriety which ought to govern 'subtle men when spanking upon public questions. Mr. !MELLISH contained with his fellow //i -rectors of the Bank also had precedent him in re pelling the charge of their being actuated in the or. eat•tott Pliothd to by Hoy hostility to the Govern ment, or any wish to withhold any mecononodation from the public which they could consistently ad- Yu nee. Ile strongly condemned the source of the 1100. Gesiiiernun's information; nor could lie con ceive with what propriety a confidential and unautlin rioed communication could be publicly divulged. 1f lie knew the particular quarter Mom wit ch the llonourable Gentleman lied received his informa tion, and that that quarter was a Director, lie should to-morrow mine the Court that that iii diridual he expelled their body. 'nitre was some thing loot strictly within the rules of propriety. when a breach of confidence became the ground Oil which lo ((mod a general attack upon a whole body.—(llear.)—The Bank had ever !hewn a great liberality to the politic, nod u strung desire to givers-try facility to the promotion of the public interests. it was but the other day that the Hon. iikeistleman (as had hresi mated) complained of the Bonk for not coutrollong their issues—rind the fire moment they took All opportunity of Motioning the plan lie recommended, they were rewarded by lie censure. There was, no way of satisfying lion. Members of this description. At rule time they were called upon to divide their profits, sometime. in their own Courts, and sometimes in the Courti of Westminster 111.11. It was impossible the rectors could please every body ; they would, how. ever, persevere in the adcption of sueli measures MI they deemed bead calculated so ensure them pidslie confidence, and whirls in the end would entitle these to general praise. —(!leer.) Jr. GezarEt.s.. in explanation, disclaimed any breach of confidence in the allusion he lord made to divisions among the Directors * whether the usual advances should lie made, —The Committee would see with what fairness lie was stylised or a brevets of confidence, when be informed them. that be haGI heard of the orcurrence to 'which he alluded from a Bank Director, IA the Koonce of other persons to ll public street, end without the siighttsi irecompa• raiment of confidentiaLcurninunication or Hama lion of eeeresy.— (Hear.) Mr. P 9074181102 was convinced that the Director, of the Bank would alwaxa nuoisfee an nactimitise 14 promote the public interests, en far as they could 4o so with roloriety,—(Neer.)—They must 4sas please some people. and .eapect moons jut Teter,' but the stworthisat ire would, he Wee pet 110•1 be of abort Iteration. Ile reocarred with Hon. Gautiletuan {Mr. Orenfrll) that ' lied at length met its financial state meet it, and deserted the practice those futile eapediesita, which in t ever prove so detrimental to be true Ithe people. They were now proceeding ns the) ought—they were reverting to a volOd metalic cur -1 rency4-11try - were restoring their fiaances to • rorresrositliag basis—thry were proceeding with iniseliammity, as had been well ohrerved by an Hem. Member (:11r. Grelifell), in *hewing the face of Eiteope the sinews of their strength. Ile concluolial by •speriaing his genend concurrence in the ;dm of the Right Hon. Gem!Elnan, rereraiug Itimaelf, as oilier lion. Members hail dime, fur dos covillia 1014 fiat its detail.. Pia J. NmeemiT, so fair fioni thinking the Murk to blame in withholding their advances on the pre. tent lam, thought they hid meted perfectly right its cotololtiug their own jtolgnielit owl discretion, and taking into full consideration the call made t wo ! , th em fo e the resumption of cash payonelot4 ; they hid it right to regulate their issues 11CCOr(liiig to the contingent ettgagementr which they hail to meet, and it was fur themselves alone to judge of the propriety of their determiilatiosis. With resiiret to the general question of the new taxation, his decided opinion was, that the couotre Milt 111 no cooditiou to bear it. Ile found that the additionni malt duty was to affect the whole empire, while the additional duty on spirits was to be confined to Eng land. He regretted that with respect to lielasid, any measure was likely to have operation which would iilace the brewertti in a comparatiesly worse situation than the distilleries; and he earnest Ili suggested to the flight !Immoral - de Geittlenion ;without ineistoing to recommend any new tea whatever) the propriety, for the sake of the industry, the moral., the health, rind the pence of the people of Irelriol, of ndropt ing room? regulations which, if possible, would en courage rather than discourage the preference of swift liquor over spirits. hl poi n t of revenue, art advantage may he derived I.y cultivatitig this ore. fel eller, but ahr.ve all, in point of morality, it was rutitled to the bravos conaideration of Government. —/near, hear.) Mr. lists OF:TX adverted at come lenOli to the financial state of the country, and the I oiliire of the profaners which had been held out to the p ati pl e . lie raid they had been promised by Mr. I'm a siiikitio fund of eimo,Qpot. Haut they load now arrived at one of 11..000,0004.—they were proinioeil a total cesution of war taxes, in the serowl year of the peace, and they were now in the fourth year encumbered with 7,000,0001. of war taxes. The Ho n . Gentlemaii then went 'auto details of the rotate of the revenue, and contended that there was no security in Pow:B4)g taint It would cot fall below its present amount. lu this state of depressed com merce, manufactures, and trade, lie could lint con vent to an augmentation of taxer. The flog populoos districts of the country, through the pressure of the times, ',regrow! melancholy -ex amples of crime. 'Merry, and disease, to a degree never before known in England.— To lay fresh taxes, therefore, upon people so crushed and bent, was not only impolitic, but actual marliirrs, for no man could answer for the consequences. He knew some sort of revenue in the manner proposed may be extorted by force from the people, but it could only he drawu train one of two sources—eithet (mom poverty, which could ro ill cootribute it, or from the ittior's rates, that were ultionarly to relieve that poverty. Hon. Members, *lien its the fourth year of peace they couseitted to new lases of three millions, could ill face their constituenta, whatever number they were able to muster in that House. This, lie knew, was the first year of • new Parliament— had it been the concluding year of the lost, they would have given a very differeni vote. —( Hear.) —The Members of the last Parliament, woo had voted away the liberties of their country, met the fate they deserved from their cosatitueuto; the same result would now follow if the same splint! were to lappets from the Representatives to these who delegated them—Wear.) Mr. Maws/lUD did not dread the appeal to his constituents for his support of the proposed plan —/Hear)—hut he could him conceal from his•view that the people were, from • variety of courier, ma terially exhumed—he mean, the lower classes, and lie should have much preferred to have seen the struts wanted raised on the upper classes, who were so much better able to bear the burden. He can didly avowed he should have voted in preference, to a modified tax upon property, not income—such a tax as would fall upon the landholder and fund bolder, and not upon the tenant, the artisan, and the meclianic.—(Hear.).-He should have in every way preferred such a tax as he pointed out—it would make them look better in the eyes of the country ; for they would then appear taxing them selves, rather than their constitueuts.—(llear.)— If, however. such a tax were not proposed, lie should vote for those now recosinueirded.—(Hear.) An Honourable Member, whose mine re could not learn, paid, lie could not well see how better time, than the proposed one; could be brought forward. He thought a large sinkiug fund most expedieut and politic for the country, and the ge neral observations from one interested party an a an other, sheered the equal manner in which they were diffused upon the couimunity.—(Hefte.)—The wool tax could not. in soy material degree, affect the manufactures of the country. While he thus approved of the principle of the plan, he begged to be uoderstood as restating himself for thee detadr. Mr. J. P. GRANT was anxious for iotormitton n 9 particular part of the 'tight HON. Gentleman's pLun. As he understood it, there was no intention pf applying any part of the sinking fowl of (re lent) to the loins, us was to be done in this country. The sinking fund in Ireland bore a larger propor. tints to the marketable stock of !reload, thou dye 'inking fossil of England bore to the stock liere— r to remedy the fluctuation of exchanges which thjs tee lative difference between the stock of both enuntries had occasioned, an Act was passed'enahling person, to invest stock in England, and then trinfer it et ;Air (right and one-third per cent.) to jrelend, The amount transferred in coitsetrietwg who very rear Emil* n iv desired to ' whether ' arrangements .i the carried into effect . ; but did he Vec , Alf ut 'bat 3,000,00 a of the present revenue consisted of win ihoie., which were to continue no longer 1100 l the yeur Ift:2o, or 1041. fie was of °Onion 'kit the revenue could not be relied sumo at the amount at intim!, it teas taken. It would he resnllet•trd tt•t•'t the revenue of last year was in a great degree ow ing to neertradiog, alit: before fresh taxes were iu;- pn•rd, he thought the country ought to be allows.: to renase and recover from the effect of its The CNA Ncr.r.i.otz of the EuticgUtta eatil tig er(, that his reason fbr not touching the looking fund in Ireland th•tt it might he suffered in operate 'iota the resources and revenue of that c oun try we►e developed by the progress of nuln•- try. soul the auginelitation of trade. The Right lion. Gentleman, is conclusion said, that ther. a-si no reason whatever for suppming !hid theta would be a diminution in the revenue. Ive to its increase. or, indeed, as to who may be its *hole, he could not—no person could pledge himself; there oa., he salt!, every reason, as fur its :sort,- rime could sanction judgment, to think that the!. would be an increase, in►teed of t 1 dimiuution o! revenue. sir RIBERT WILSON said, that the avowed o l e o ject of lording the nottistry with Nadi !Mimi rag es . WOO not to slime the income aud thr tsprnditose of the cusintry, but to increase a surplus already existing. If he were anxious to cause an exasperation of the public mind, he would support not merely three Itesultioi tttt R. 1)41 he would support all the measures of Isis Majesty's The people have declared their usability to pay taxcs— they have slated their distress—ai.el whet has burn the insurer of Pacifist:tent That answer Ims been sis lion of new and oppressive taxes. 'l' isatiosi mutt have certain lintits-sthere is a point beyond *inch it eanvot be ureic . ..4 with safety or with a.:vasone i it ..:•meoit be Pie , '" 10 1 0 04 wbat the people can bear, aud sheen it is pri.ised too far resistance must sloop follow. Old forbid that the miseriee of the people in this country. to oh.desse clown those miseries may exist, should chive nee lieu plc to nuy resistance against Ole Puri noteut Ow lass I—but surely the tranquillity of the comic: y sitou:d out be enilaugered by increased Co:Athos, sod ex .s• the distresses of the people, which hitil .oily arrived at an ninrinisig aud deplorshie extent. a hat the voice of the (votary was rigainst the proposed loxes, uo rsndid man would deny, notwithstafidiog the in,. joroics of Ministers. Ile was cot, however, surprised to lied them stand up so confidently in that (louse, utterly dim. rwliet that voice, nod answering the public complaint with public burdens. Trey felt their strength—they were guarded the first place by majorities in that Hopse...they were ciisrded in the next by tax-gatherers—auel, jactly , lh , y were wailed by regiments of foot end dragoons. but they should recollect the transactious of the past—lloy should recollect the causes that produced that Wow. duos revolt/nos in another country, in consi qui nee of uLich that couutry got rid of two-thirds of h‘r consequence of which. lir might add, the debt .4 Eughtid wss ip,aeated 600,000,0001. The gallant Grote*, here enter ed, at some length, on the moors and effect of the French Revolution. He next alluded to Colonial taxes. lie Ind, that eben his regiment were at the Capc of Gond Hope, found an army of 4,000 men there—they found the country in a flourishing coudition—anil yet the establish ments of that country did not cost France one single shif t. rig, slur Was (hire any oppression practised on the peo ple. so satisfied were they with the Fiench Guar; unient, that the. British army did nut receive the slightest assistance from the inlisbitants of the country. lu the est illlll4lt which hail been laid before (be House, he found charges for the auvion f t of the military, fur the staff, and fur shippiug, as connected with the Cape of Good Hope. The of Ceylon too coat this couutry tin less than one milliuu mid or half, in order to get fROSSCSIIIOO of it, aud this money, lie might any, was wasted. He than alluded to nip cuoildct est the Repress:dative destwrittly of POT ( Canada. AC[Olll4lll kJ reached town, that they have refused to grant (he Govern ment supplies for the year—a resolution which be could omit too much applaud for its wisdom and its iudepruilencr They eame to that resolution in the critical snonient—had they delayed il, a Eery attempt to bring about retrenchment and reform would bare been atoaccesstaj, and ..00lel be treated there as it was here..•ll9 the mere effect of a tics toms disposition. The galleon Gracr.el concluded by sortie, that, feeling as he did the injustice and the impoliry of die taxes, lie would feel it his duty, should no other Member do so, to object to every proposition which the Right Hoa. Gen tleman should make respecting them. Mr. Ca I.coAFT said, that I:e should also feet it bit duty to divide the House on the subject of the differeut taxes. The more he knew of the real state of the (vainly, the more be was convince) uf the impoliey of is.- 'mow those tares; and be felt he would but poorly dis cluirge his duty if he did not oppose them. A pest portion of those tapes, be said, most be paid out uf the puny raki, to such a degree of wretchedness was the two's, mow re duced; but ha had every hope drat the country notelet re vive, and that the revenue would keep up to what was stated iu the Finance Report, namely, to fif,y-four But the prescut sitar pas, of all others, the most tmfitrustr chic for imposing uew than, It was then, Is. conceived, i-upulitie in the last degree to impose those taxes at a lime when they were not reonired for the expenditure of the State. It had been staled, that by creating the 'hking fund of 5,000,0001 security was gives, to the stucktholdri; but lie was tensioned, that if the sinking fund were left at 2,000.0001. it +weld bare no unkvoierable effect at the Stock Exchange, nor poold it be at all more difficult for the Gisverionmet to borrow money. A great deal had beet, cud about Members coming forward ski dischistog the state of she mustily; hot Obit statement, when analysed, falls to nothing. Auy mac M cep eetpositited with the financial slate of the country, Items every item and turticular of the salijec; quite as well before the discussion as lee dots ouw. In the Re port of the Finance C.amegittee that subject was fully slated The only new feet that was disclosed was, that the Bank held a greater amount of porernrnent securities than was supposed. This was the only fact of any commqueace that arose out of the late discussions. Jibe heard much of retina nil—the eohustry heard much of it—but where was it prac tisedt was it in the lateestimates> He was unfortunately, but unavoidably ailment when those estimates were trought before the Iliosse—the was, therefore, prorated (con trary to his usual practice) (rum examining them—he would now say, that the late army estimate', were as objee. tiouable as had bees porposed duce the fumuus Iteent,o liehs of 1818, and should no reduction take place to the mean lime, he would be able it, the next year to demon strata that • great dinslaution might be made its the expen diture, without any greet diminution in the force of the country. lie Slap said, anxious to record big opialoas us this subject, t ube Wiped lie 'lase would yet make a stead to limit:4 Om toustry quips& eacesaiye tax ation. Mr. Alderman WopD gait), Vie people were not obie to bear .tip agniost taxation. and Iw, with the other Members, aret‘hl feel It his duty Is watch the yrugress 4 Owe btu MO AD mese them. i tt was, be !aid, a amt. tor of sMimisbasern, Oat Moo. Pestle-we should ---,now Malt Tax. It a • Il,y itrsi sccomps. to invest stock in England, and then trinfrr it at tad esrenishareal, Oat Yds. Penilesren should gyre ii. ion or Hone- per (eight and one-third per ceu)l.) to jrelsnd, The 1 suppeel she Mats Tan. II pppiered Ibis they campronnsed 1 an aersed es the tax on an in rav amount transferred in cometptence was very gm" s t i Z r s m i s Mos 041 I• tax SP rill. IN' ibis l al " will 0 "t at the Directore and lie desired to how whether 'pity arrangements „„,,,,„ a u purr u s s or a u m o d a l i nterest ; oetw i dni ,j. an lodination rm 'ln contemplation is countered the Mint** lag Ore arldlstennl Iserign wool .111 be 4111 iar. res they could effect which 'an unrestrained transfer may nccasion. I parsed.**‘ !b* she d eem said a Otis CVO'S! 'My must des. With respect he the general Quail= 4 the 1 5 7 i . 5 . 11 p .„ 1 ' l i r . , I I bes EL O- 6 : . 4. 4 1 ; :t i c ; ":" 1 "-• Pule in retwu ; pessary there card be no dillterence of opinion on b egs deareinsd, sad itow apeard as she lush to!. am wall ',muscled, the raperheemy a plapirtg the geautry is this ! rusgur s or mum meg vie. iktip audiaelner. .Ma t we. wed with the witted, 'which* greet walepo might so mom' in - themes of Air Wad liatigese a t ro. m'o • ' - 1505 arms at the country the ether Powers of the , mead, one is whiedi he .1 1 ;Prottlora °to v nit reseal. . I. s'''r'"" 414. I aw lm fo * i r e ;* i ... 1 ; 1 74:: tas it ought to had no dostlet the einelers pr the psephi Ir*.?"1 ; las yaw. i i; ,4-2.„, 4 „,,...,„ .., sorry is an of Morting to wimp "lota it. MIA lutis ii•sh 14.°11.1"11 "M /hest SUM prayed arm an propia. Tior peels "4/4 we the end muse I mid, shat there was no nut ane re niem leatm esi ne wso be so osi be ll- fumem i m u ivocise . ~, s i,",,...,k nwtho amr , l4..w...sid , wo:6 ,,,„, o w eall g e ..zuz roe interests of • dried eta /be reposed I 11 1 •