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(he only lost two by aicknvis) becau4 he wos hot plovitled with a certificate from Governor Mac. quarrie, with whom he was not on friendly terms. Mr. Ilttetwarr said, that the Petitioner did not pray for pecuniary relict, lint that the Iloove should dmihoosty . losa, 'hie( pertormaiore Yf bitidotN, and Owl neeett•lty of affording him what. ewer relief they: thought fit. He earnestly solicited the alteutionetieseivernerientto the case Of this Ili. 4ividuel, oboes he had every reason to believe to he a respectable nun, end to have lost causideratily by the Mr,..ltysraw was not certain that the House could reeeirie this Petition, from its obvious alhit.ion to pletuniary relief, Without a recommendation from the erowti. blr. BeNrie*T said it did not specify pecuniary relief. j Mr. Gootwutto remarked, that this case had already been under the consideration of Govern ment. The reml circumstances of it were these:--. The gourds, in the passage out, had fired, on three distinct arid separate occasions, upon the convicts. killed 12, and wounded a number of them, as well 5 salrirs. The Governor, on the arrival of the ship, as was his duty, ordered a strict inquiry into the whole circumstances of the care. A volumi nous mins of evidence was given before the Commis. stoners, tonne of it very contradictory, not only from the convicts, but some of the sailors en board. The Governor, acting properly upon his deseretwo, sent the caste ho me for trial, and vhil out give the eerti. Ecate to the Caplan', to entitle him to the extra remuneration for taking the best pinsible care of •toe people on board. It did taut follow because the Caputo, was very properly acquitted on the charge of Lowder, that therefore lie was entitled to a re ward fur hiving taken the best possible care of the tnet).-((leur.) Mr. Ilk, m sTr said that the Captain had not only the surgemi's testimony in his favour ► hut also the recommendation of the Transport Board. Mr. COULBURN said that the Governor's certifi cate war indispensably necessary. If he did not •mistahr, some of the evidence involved the comfort of the surgeon as well as that of the Captain, though of course the trial exculpated all. Mr. BRICIIIITT thought it quite intn!erable that adequate remuneration was denied the Captain. The SPEAKER, after referring to the term+ of the Petition, thought a doubt arose on the point of born as to its admissibility ; in one view, however, it might be received. . . . . Lord CASTLEREAGH recommended, that where a deuht iuterpured. it ought to be interpreted libe tufts in f.iour of the right of petition.—/Hear./ After a few words from Mr. WYNN and Lora CASTLEILEAOU. on the impropriety of presenting petitions conveying charges against persons in a 61-tant part of the world, which if true ought rather v, he mole the subject of judicial proceedings in the Courts below— Nlr, BEN tierioirrentled the line of conduct lie bed taken, rod moved that the Petition do he on the table.—Ordered. THE QUEEN'S COUNSEL. Mr. Bitounnsat said, he had • motion to sub nil to the House on a sulrject necessary to secure a uniformity of practice, though he found it mili tated against very old standing orders of that This motion was still more necessary to secure their privileges as a /sody from great al,use, god their Members individually from great annoy mice. ft was known perhaps to many •who now betted him, that Members of that House, whit were Counsel, were prohibited b y two stamling orders from professionally attending below the liar of the House of Peel's in law care.. The first standing order : prohibited them flora anent - brig in argu nients.of writs of error or common law Froceediuge; the other had referente to questions of appeal, and stood on a different forniug, as they ware ors judi cial witure, which could not come afterwards for coosideratiow from the Upper to the Lower noose. The standing orders iu both cases were expressly prohibitory, Though the uniform practice for the list cesstary, indeed from* the year 1710, was for Members to attend professionally in the discharge ttf their iegul duties below the bar of the other Will" without let or litudrance from their Louts ship«, who bad no ressoo, of course, to oppose any, but certainly without any from that [louse, whose standing orders by so attending were in. fringed. He could certainly, in loirticoler inetance+, wags great convenience to Members individually, if they were not tolled upon to attend in such cas-s, but by the *Viet etiquette of Counsel, it was riot permitted them to refuse a brief iii ate Corot io witch they practised, be the nature of the cause what it may. The reason of OM role was ob viously that oil his Nlajestyht subjects may have tin equal CiOtnCe of the besielit of thheir own selr citron of professional assistants. The rule, as or6ing out of one of those standing orders, was certainly that t . ..Putisel should not appear in the other Muse iu support of private Bala. 'flie reason of this was proper, arid he should be very far from wishing to see that rule opened wider.--( Near, keor. heir. / /fie present proposition was respecting the case of a Bill lately introduced in the other II iti , r the Queen, which would form a fair exeentom In the principle of the standing order. De meant that the Counsel for the Queen shoul..l have notwithstanding the atandirig ord. rs, aid on that secsunt (t. e. her ;Majesty's case) dont-. This permis sion for the Queen's Counsel (who happened to he Measbersof that House) to attend when the Bill was brought in en behalf of her Majesty without aerating thrusts% would, he trusted, 1,. granted williont in the place to which their I/timid:owe would be called, her Majesty 'had Ito law officer. She had no member of her household in the Upper House, as no household was, in fact, yet rillinted to her. His Majesty was not so : lie had iu the persons of his Ministers those who would act for him in the progress of those proceedings—he had those who, like. a nominee at an Election Committee, though not specifically the advocates of. the party, were yet bound to see that every thing wee fully clove in his behillf. On the part of the Queeu there were vu persons, except her law officers. who could be iioderstood as directly appearing in her behalf.— His motion, that they be excepted for the special case nod oe the special ground, was of so proper a stators. that he *could make- it eon, tint anti« Cipatifig any possible objectless. That being done, he it'd only to request, Ise .the pith of himself and his Leotard Ceiteripir, Hot *hilt they aim ii.- •iY .ds 4.• permitted to tetaio their seats dotting the agitation I religious liberty *1.4 ahmt to be token 'away." of this question, mod in the event (which he Ile knew not a singl e mail wha held that opinion could not anticipate) of the Bill lie alluded i t , I ionosigo there Protestant Diosenters, lotto is litan h e ersioitig down to them from the Lord-, they should I would in a few days lwer to presci:t o Petition to waive their itrivtleg e of voting in that House upon I the Bowe (not tie•i'init his Hun. Fiirliirs Bill). the Paha:utast sishject. ilebetti4ed that-writ, as. TbcalacriLielt tio,ou willo respect to thot Bill did hr understood that h e desired the stioditig orders not run to all tatravagala rxlett. though he owned to he suspended in this particular (11.4., With the/ thrt ieresia trans of it had felt os exp•eerlingly . fV.160:114 of the snsprosino fully displayed. and Ann ithetnatme. aild none more so than the socromentill the exception to the rule altuirld not he Jr.'s/pins* )rat to achooluspeters which the Hun. Memtws had Mt precedent brood:tor. withdrawn from tir e &H. This was .thy gni. Lord •Ceretstletiou •ug.getted. Ilut.utfb a to 114111. as he would have to submit um- Sims as this should be preceded bye siotice..• •ife Imo to the House ere long on the propriety of dop ng ,rovatst to pronotosce t 0 opititou at this orsonieert trehetouti tests altogether. Till the urin t h e in,...itspf the " p l iptlon , h o t hp thought should come before the House there could he littl e it well entitled to consideration to the sir.; instaoser. I use in ;waking any observations noon it. Ile Mr. fleouesstam 16:14 64411 y that the Noble Lord • !bought it necessary to say thus much to ex pl oit , . did not look upon this nroion es -our of course. I the real degree of shams felt by t h e Dissenters to -Fie, as well es his Learned Frieud (11r. 1),,,, 1ia „). the Bill. which did not go to an entire oimositton as her Majesty's Attorney end Solicitor-General, of thrweerure, though doubtless inposidei Ade mo. had already appeared before the House of Lords &fictitious ;would be wanted Wore it could safely be permitted to g o i n to op e ration. the capacity 4 the (yeeill Comore,. it, however, in their care alone, DO deviation from the ' ,l im a_ The Bill was reed • second time. Mg order was permitted, which he could not an. NEVI BARRACKS. lialoate after the long pi s ettee ul a eurctrare I Mr. CALCRAPTsai,I, that a ouestion had arisen coarse, •b e M ou ld i n fo rm wa in Mitt it b e rigi d ly sot of the discussions of the barrack contract Frost enforced in writs of error and awned, a n ti nuked in *tight, which he felt it uecessary to submit to the every instance. • Homer art it involved a cousideration extremely im- Mr. Wenn mid, that the two *lauding orders Puttant to the fonetlotir of that Howie. The Right alluded to by his Honourable and Learned Prtrod, . Hon. Gentleman had acknowledged that hr did stood on different grounds ; one of show was dated I not know that the building of the barrack tit the in the year 1666, the oilier in 1861); there was also Rettrol'o Pork 'had forolseorrd. thuoah he (Mr. a third, which had reference to the wise prohibition Caletafi) lure* that the walls of the stables Wert or Menthe's appearing us Oentivel Jith Ore. other already carried up to revers! .fret in bright, sod [loose. He begg e d, i n i o tni ti i , 44 to chess. order,, • therefore that a considerable expense most have not to be understood as intimating or,! uptokto tan- been incorrect. That House were suppmerf to. to trary to that of his Honourable and LeOrtirii Friend, the great .her kon the pubic expenditure—they as to the propriety of milking the present excrptieu; were supposed to huh!. the purse.striugs, and it br at the stone time, he thought it desirable the too. came them to insist upon knowing why Noy Board lion should be preceded by should sentare, without the sanctiou of Parliament, Mr. BROUGHAM expressed his readiness' to give or any direction from the Treasury Bard, to set tle notice, and urged the necessity of au.early sJe. thorieethe eieciiiitio of illy public works. in exs. cioion upon the point. He hujied sulfite for to- mining 'Miter/noes, he found that from eight to morrow %%mild be deemed sufficient.—( Ilene, Lear, ten millions hart berm laid out in building barrette s front Lord Castlereagh.) although a Coroosittee, *hid, hod been eitolffoyed Mr. 1V ex said. the third Maitiliag -order he row th at among other purpoier, had reerouniended spoke of prescribed that no Member should pre. I that no eittoetntrtore should he nudertaken by' the sump-, under certain circumstances therein set Barrack Hoerr' exceedittg • very hatired snot, *Mr. forth, to plead professionally in the Upper 140161141 % i Oat the sanction of the . Ilcierd ofTressary beim; pre. except with permissism. This iiirlicated that at she vomsly obtained; yet item were works of coosi time of the standing order the Km+. canfernplaseei &Table magnitude which hall been commenced a case when such it permission ititglit be ;grouted. more than a month without any socirsenctiors hay. Lord CASTLEREAGH begged not to be under. I lug been sought. He believed that the right mode stood as pronouncing any opinion; in fact, no 0h.., for Imo worsts! be to more for the elle...lance of the jection struck him individually upon that subject; (wad of the borrtrk dePortmenri to ask by what hr only thought a notice exordient. most. euthority. or. under what sanction he laud ventured however, say, thought the subject ssas quite new to to pot the postale to ouch an espesne. And mules. him, it was one thing to stiffer the staiipliiig order the Hight Hon. Gentleman opposite could satisfy to he evaded in silence, and soother to sanction Po tbe Haute by some explanation, he (Mr. Colcroft) infringement, when the subject wa4sbviisight regu. woold certainly more for the atteodauce of that !sety under their view, He pronounced tie opiniuta, i offierr it the bar of the House to-morrow. however, upon the subject. The CUASCAtt LOU of the E;citmeutin said. that Mr. BRouoH•te hoped the mailer would he de. the contract was *till subject to the revisiou sad cide'l to-morrow. Hr could not peas what oh- control of Parliament, mud unless Parliament top jection could he urged. proved of it. although the work had been cot/Hectic- Lord CASTLEREAGH thought lire 'softie tor to. jYd. the contract would not be binding on Go. morrow quite sufficient. serentieut. A Net- a few words in explanation WM Mr. WON Silr.Cafcuatre wished •to know if the Barrack and lord CASTLEREAGH— oursd .submitted any retimose to the Treasury Sir FRA N cis Bottom, said, that' the King'. Board before the commencement of the work ?He Attorney-General, who was a Mitebei of that conceived that quevrion to be of more importance house, was acts' sity ordered by a p l ower elsewhere. than the expense Of the 70,000 E fie would put to Attend ill the Lords in salmon of th'e' How • off his motion until to-morrow ; and if the Right could that he @offered, if the Qoeen"4 Attorney- t Hon. Gentleman failed to give sonic otiti)fectors General was not allowed the sane inivirege in a i explanation, he promised to oppose the Bill which ease in which she had so strong a ehign ?—f hear.) hr had introduced. The notice annuls for to-mot/tut. The CIIANC-CLLoit of the EXCHEQUER made a EDUCATION 01 'FIFE Kid* brief reply, osol the notice stood for to-morrow. Mr. BROUGHAM iu firing to tlii f fee the Order of Mr. BENNETT postponed his motion respect. the Day for the second reading u( the' Ohl for the fug the Audit Ofnee till to-morrow. better providing the plea,,. of ed4cating Isis Ma. Col. Davies post, d a notice of his which jetty's *objects in Engliond. Wales', and Berwick. stood for toolay. till Thursday text. upon-Tweed, begged to correct too Mistakes which I Mr. W. SMITH gave notice that he would move had nnoccountably gone forth resPectiug the provi. to-morrow for a grant of 3,000/. for certain damages riotts of his Bill. among two most utimeroue and most which had taken place at Dover on Friday last. respectable classes—he memo the Catholics and the IMPRISONMENT OF MR M. LOPEZ. Protestant Dissenters. He had receivid letters from. Lord J. Ruessm. in '•g to make Isis pro. remotely, of bodieoroft hese (Note, hod from persons tensed motion on this subject, was aware of the de. its theism, Mquiring whether it was true, as was licacy of it, and the danger of having' such a motion stated nod feported, that. the 'Bill was intended to as that which he would have to submit, interpreted compel thi.children of Catholic' and' Dissenters to I into an attempt to infitience the infbctioo of puni.h dittoed at Protestant schooli. lti tree or tlie applies- Meas. Or a/benders against that !louse altogether. {ism from Dissenters it nos asked, whether the • lie thologlit this could scarcely be urged in the 'object of the Bill was to take away front them ; present case, where the offender had already paid a •• tide last relic of religious liberty ?' The last fine of 10,000/. Hie object was, uu Address to the phrtre he thought a little tod incroisiderate from Crown, .to pay few the rentis.ian of the remainder a body who must properly get rid of the Test Act of the penalty. tie had nothing to urge against. by the Aimee, tudeirittirr Act.—( Hue, hear, . the conduct of the , Judges ma the trial, against is;.ar.)--1411 Bill had no each permission vs was whom not a shadow of suspicion could dwell. The apprehended; uor in any of the lettortr that he lints which thud Howie had pared orison bribery bad looked into did he see oily thing whirls sod corruptiou, must have been proofs to these cools have led to sock • mirtake. No MO W learned persous the disposition of the Hiesse.to could be More surerilltrig arse hiibuulf to pro. j punisli every offence of that nature, sod it was pose any tests on the score Of religion, except their hounder, duty to visit every each cite that sell ;as lie conceived to be necessity for protecting came leiter them with the blowiest punivionsesst. the Constitution. To remove all,ponsible•objectioss. i The Court could not consider lose far the public front one elms of ortisiderable wei%ler, he had with. opinion and practice might have instigated the drove the oacrani-und test from the Bi l winch Ile rocillolooloo of the rlifeltre ; hen if the sentence was had before included its it. It vow storPfy proceeded right, it did not follow that there could be no eases that the schoolmaster should be of tbi Church of fu which judgment could, unfit propriety, Ow asp. ambled codamanion, but be was' dot to be !waded, awl mercy Leullowed to take novelette. It slrbrfi to • Wog reciiiiid the ifikrament, was to he recollected, that the Hoose had required , Hosing said that Meek, which kir feefitsgs of 're. judgment to be given on the offender its the treet tee.sTdo so Inge and merittwirral b clear of before them. The criminal was an extensive subject. (betook!, he trusted that he' hod reminird rough moron. sod, perheps, it woos anise plea in Ivoy objccioti which could be fairly of on die his house, that he had•generally used his labs score of any injury that might be •fearest ti them, once on behalf of Arboiniatration; It might •linve• or thrir ititerent., by the Operation of the BI[:' He' . been eitrated from those with orbour he had beet, concluded by moving the second reeding of 'the ! moat closely connected in the exercise of that pio., Bill. tfrtnagg. to Ipive come forward on hie behalf to W. SMITH said, that he felt it tweettPary to . Ism for .mergy. It-was, however, a fit occasion , l i, say a very few words. He eoulit nut !possibly dos. , for the Haase. to she. its lenient dispositiou.l believe the assertion of his Hon.. and Learned' upon. The 'great age, of the primmer. being. Friend with respect to the rf)ect which the Bill• 64 or 65 years old, was of itself • claim; two.l might or sought not have on the fielings and lute- years of imprisonment might fairly lw considered rests of Dissenter?. essertiots also. as. o lar,ge portion of the.remettelvr of his life; be• with respect to Cithidtcs, suu;fg whom.* iroluoill aides this. he would ia any case suffer is confine had certi.itily . gone Artiv th Awe childreu were. went of 'Wren mouth% when the remainder of Isis to be for , •ril into Protestant schools and educated tutor could scarcely (Jr calculdied to exceed tett or against the will of the perid', it would have boon twelve years more. Ile voidil grant the. alleged difficult to persuade them list the Bill, would be magnitude of the offence ;he would admit that no infringe r tnesit of their rights. As to the . Pro. no cireumitlinevii of initigmlipn could have weigh trotant Lh,weitters, he was free to, own that. great . ell walk the. Judges who pronouppyril sentelice; lint , alarm prevailed aulongist the, as to the general it would,stut lir improper for the Holt. e to consoler 'structure and tendency of the: 11 ; , 4 • certonaly n the Kennel trosuner of speaking of lint offence, rape.. iditei of such eiten.ive deseriPtion as that floe county. of Cornwall, tear which the. bad been:given by. his Num. sad Learned . Friend,' estate ,of Sir M. Lopez lay. Cesteialy such or.. He had bestd of nothing, Glee a siteteratiou from' fences never ought* to lie mentioned, espreistly,bv Nay pithy of beassnle'ra u tllit tisk Omit Seisitios *of Members of that House,. without detestation: yet - - " 4 - 4 "., it was Weil known lllitt contertslitins *Us Iti the .. !palter' , Cf constituents, were very common within the walls of that House; *etch euoter"tioft were likaly to have had a It d influence un • person of the temperament of Sir M. 1,111101. who, in recut tog to the pracionets quesottow, eenalei sarecely he constricted more guilty, but less ',rodent than other*. There was one fact which he would stale, that would have some weight. A year before it had Nero proved lie • solicitor who had been rxa muted, that I o,ot.vel. had been pont to prevent a petition against a return for Grampneend r be rug pr0a......,ded Ill; to that (Orli larger .1111/ of money it was pooh .1-1- that the punishment of Sir M. Lopez might have lien avoided by him alm i gether. He thooteht 1114( 1111 C year's ensprisomment, with the floe already paid, would be punishment enough. This prolownion would he sin impediment iu the way of this grailitisl reform %shinty it was his *tall to pm. mote. Exceosive pe th oo l osent for setelt,ollelice• us that of Sir tU. Lopes was not calcellatted tu hosteler that teforne. As to der opleatiou of the Hooter of C'oromisetiorl, he wished, as far as reform was cub earned in i t, to he determined by a mikler mode of proceeding. Unfortunate''y he had been prevented front following rip dist 'titration by the pressure of ether business. The 13111 which he had introduced would remain in the settle state, and be ready for 'lion to pursue it, from its then stage, in the next SeS.lllll, 1.1 the tally part of which 1w proposed to take it up agsi it. He concluded by moving That ma humble Address slesahl be presented to bis Ms- Jest'', humbly praying Stout he woodrl be graciously pleased tu shorten the period of punishment of tar 31. Lopes, coo &morel to IWO years of imprisonment is Exeter naotos suds time, moil wader such comities's)+, as to his Majesty Omelet seem It. 111 r. W. WYNN knew that it was a most nn willing office to thwart the disposition of lenity which the House might feel towards ally particular offender. Every Gentleman must wish to .hew mercy and forbearance, as far as justice would per twit ; but the case in point was not one in which, con sistently with hit duty. lie could allow the propri ety of interference by that (louse. Undoubtedly, there might be cases in which the House might be reisoonahly calkd on to advise the Crown in the ex ercise of its prerogative of mercy ; but if there was any case in which the (louse ought to look to the ends of justice with the molt unremitting lidr lity, it must hr that in which the character and constitutiou of the House itself were concerned. $n such eases the Holier could not interfere to pre vent puisithitient with any great degree of propri ety. They were, besides, to look at the particular case. The House did not know exactly the parti culars of what had passed, nor the substairee of the evidence given; but it was plans, from the Re port of the Committee, that great and extensive bribery and corruption had been practised, and epos' this the House had 'required judgment to he passed upon the offender. The Court did not look at the circumstances winch were supposed Jo non- gate the offence. The facts of the case were before them, and as the Judges were not in terested directly is' the decision, they toast invite decided impartially. lie could not, after this, agree in the propriety of adikessing the Crown to set aside such a judgment, especially whet, he considered the oath which the Monarch took, to enforce justice and remember mercy. It was no ordinary case of crime; it was nut like the case of airy Member of that Rowe, who was likely to be heated by patty interests, and thereby be hurried into an offence which, in cooler moments, he would regret. But here was* person delrberase ly sitting down to bribe constituents, to secure or transfer seats, nut for the promotion of Its own oin jams, hut from the mere desire of gain. Ile had the snore objection to interfere between justice sod its victim, become be thought lie perceived a ten dettey the proceeding • of that (fume to airframe functions whit!' it had no capability of discharging. arid to interfere, Oft varionv ticca.sons, with Ilse ditties of almost every branch of the Execuntr, to meddle wills powers whioli were better and far Inure safely intrusted to the Crown. Such a prartire must lead to great inconvenience, and therefore he f I objected to the motion. A Member on the Ministerial ride said, that Mr. Swann, who mos setiteueed at time Faroe tiine with Sir M. Lopes, was suffering severe indisposoloo. Hr approved of the motion, and wished it to include Mr. Swann. Lord CASTLERIAGNI said he was not quite sore, bet he believed that way the gni cow in *lnch that Hesse bad attempted to interfere with the admiiiis tration of justice after sentence had been parsed. U perfectly understood, and rightly appreciated the . matives of the Noble Lord. its undertaking to bring this *object forawd. it struck him, how. eves, that it would be much better is, leave the ease with that branch of the state from whirls the (01'- 814%0km had its origin, that poster which (sushi be !towed with least jealvuoy in theeserei.eo the 'ugh fenetionof tempertogjudguseut withmerey ;. it %mild much better he with the Crown and its responsible adviser', sane Would it do lot theirs hi he bie.sell in the discharge of their duties. Ile admitted the effect which circumstances such as had been llV.vi abed, of old age end sicknes,, .very likely In have on the feelings of Members; yet they were to consider that the cam was one of ronsurlfiuble aggravation. And could it he couceiecul that the prerogative of mercy could he worse placed than in their heads. who were coiled ou to judge, and who had in this instance colic() the Alward ol judgment. Let it he remarked, besides. In what inconvenience the pries Site was likely to lead. One application hail &ferrety aralled forth soother, an t h at in future it would be considered in the light of a personal refiect on the perpetrate,' of such nu nti7fiice, if lie trot be elite to find some nor to iiiteilcre, and i ii..veot : his miltirring the *bole of his 1 stionent. Ile r e . peatrd his conviction of the propriety of kariii t .: the exercise of mercy with the sower Iwo fitted to nee it with prudence, gravity. irtipitHrlity, and bums. oily. lie thought it the VIA question in which Hie House could properly interfeie, lie frosted the Noble Lord would feel that lie load disclairged his duty by bringing the subject halyard. Perhaps h e would be the noir e inclined to do sir if assort-if (oat his motion, so far sr it had gone, would not operate li, the frustration of his urin is, in the eveiet of the cave brine reconteidered by the Crocus. 'file behaviour of l'arliaineist, as frr as the question went, be might admit to he justifiable, and such as was tout likely to injure the reuse of the party whose benefit was sought ; hot to proceed further would heir, attempt an alteration of the mow; valuable part of 7,7 •~ N . ~ .~,.~ 1 ' the Conititution. are hoped that the Noble would withdraw his motor'''. Every one would hr convinced that he had faithfully dischiirgerl duty, and that his endeavours were not likely In he ineffectual, nor the eturession which they had called forth front the Hesse . avyrlookod, if the Crown should be induced to reconsider the ease, the sit•ertrity for which, however, as a matter of justice, he by no means admitted; turd *Vold not ander. take to insure each an event. Sir T. ACLAND felt a desire to establish sr, inference, that whatever became of the risotto! ) , Crown *nubd be rendered More free by the Pion flu it to ettelei.e live irreroptilive of m t g e .. Ile could not confound •an ititerferent:e .. • Home, in u case like the present, *nth trie ram. interference in cases of trivial anal ordinary e v i mo, wherein to shear a disposition for interfering wou;ri be a matter of real danger to the consist uttnn. 1, the fors-sent case the House lord mirk Astir tit. proseeutor—(" /Vs, nee")—av far, at least, es o w judgment went. are hoped that the punislini-itt %%mild tend to put an end to ouch detestehle w ar . tiers. But hr could not see why the Hinge risonh: be prevented from interfering to this ease any on . than any other prosecutor. Circusenoanc,s minty the piseinshosent iniuswally severe; the orfrev-, to its nature, was a matter of common Colllrrresti.l,l Ili the House and throughout the country. Ili,. duubtedly the Court had acted right not an_ tieing any circumstances offered in iodhstiost; hear it was tint to be disguiried that the punish'',. -"t bore with uneril,el severity on the prptrus The end of punishment was example, awl peth,. : enough had been suffered for the aittiortirnent of ilia: Obircl. Mr. Gylltla 111 thought the case of Mr. Sitien hairier than that of Sir M. Lopez. He had pot in a Petittnn, praying that his own counsel might wit he called to prove avails, him, whii•lt *ft relayed, Adverting to v 000 e part of tier charge again* that Gentleman, the precise p-erticulan olr WhiOlf Vp were prevented Irons gathering, he said Owl he would be glad to know who, of all the Illuseskers of that House, would dm* to ask for plytlowtst of ‘, OD/. bill due to him on the eve of on ertittinir. Irregularities had been committed in the borough, by his agents, fur which Mv. 4MOIIIII could nut t„.• fairly answerable, us he could nut bare prev.!ul.4 them. He concurred in the mutitin of the Noli!e Lord. J. YNtxg concurred with• his Noble Friend, the Serf.'lary lot Foreign Affairs, Willi, Ill', shoisid gu to Hilts...ion, would certainly have Ins rote- Ne remarked, that the case of Mr. Swann was rertainhe the hardest. It appeared that 4. goose had made of one and yeas of the ralwr ;" for Mr. Swanes'i case would be found light as a goose the, compured with that of Sir M. bpi z. A Member under the gallery, on the Ministerial side... Aid that Mr. Swami hurl two children at deaths door, upon whom lie was triesparnsted, by his im prisonment, from bestowing his attention in so critical atun►e. He would support the motion. Mr. Bitraost.t, said. that Sir M. Lopez was over.. whelined with domestic affliction, which, with hue confinensent, had made a deep and dangeroirs passion on his health and toostitut 11111 l and hied brought bun nearer to the grave !lints evert his ad s•aneed time of life. As the end of ponisfinnent was said to be example, lie trusted thst the Hruise would feel th It enough. had been oluoined by the confinement of a man of rank and property in a common gaol. Ile hoped that merry would be eatendtd to persons so circumstanced, and labour ing besides under age and adlictiou. Irrrhrps, the fullest meaaare of jostme would be obtained b_• the interference of compassion in the present case. Mr. A BERCROUST Wi.beft the matter to be F.-ft with the Crown and its. responsible advisers. H e would vote against the motion, for winch lie could pee no ground*. A plea had been set op that the offence was common. lit did not Agree in the pro. priety of it ; but if it had weight it should hie been considered before the House proceeded to cal! upon the Courts of Justice to pronounce judgeneot It was not cutioistent after that tor tlism to toter fere with the sentence, and 64V that it ell I , t Hot Ire eXecuteri. Ilis Noble Friend had refinieti to impeach the judgment, but his argtentent was Ilulhilig bat an impeachment of the 0.1 4 - meta ; and, indeed, the swill! 17111%t be admitted with respect to oily (pinion which went to seek ao alteration of the judgment. It Premed to b u t:. that it would be an act of extreme insproprieer in the House to interpose, becinse no lac: hail been offered which was not homer) before. There was, beside', this material consideration— there was, on such iirosecutions, nothing of willing. nest', either to the Crown or the Judger. to pr.-- ores-si. It was generally conceived, that Isrosecationa ordered by that House were eases in which thete was obvious reluctance ui other platters ra ireoireeri against the off-rice. If such were the geveraf chip racer of the eases, II Could 111.5 be fivourable to the interests of justice for the Ilatise to thwart the istro.• mon of the JuilAes in atf till; submitted to them by the House. The whole argument resolved itself ittbs • etimplatot of the . secerity of the trout re. lie witsited the House so remember the coulphpet whirls war made respecting the cares of Idol, at a p-rivid when prosecutiows were isCrumithtliti.-4 In is fright ful amount; red yet for years and years no word of imerfevetwe had been attempted by the Howe. He begged pardon, one Member had ventort rt word. it mum be well renientbered bow ruuglily 114 r. Whitbread had been treated for iiiig Lt estin i z, that it was possible to bring judgments (.1 ihr :c -hivies Courts before the House. Thar, which wins a bare hint, was repelled with indignation. He would vote against the MuINNA. Mr. Mums; LOW 11154111111'0Vell of Interfering with the prerogatives of the Crown; though he felt how much pity was doe to the case he wmild•uppose the motion. Mr. CAN NINt: said, that lie should feel extremely sorry if the minim' were pressed to a derision, be cause, if negatived, it might throw an itripettitiseut iti the way of granting what was sought risen hi Ir if carried, the motion would involve the Hons.. 11l consequences and discussions of au injunuu, i rii . (ooey. If any difficulty bad e xisted till onntber quarter, as to extending the attribute of merry this ease, for want of areertataing the sense of the ' House, those impressions must be entirely removed by what had taken place already. and those im pressions bring .reinoved, the Noble Lord would, perhaps, feel that. hr had dime 'sough by his opinion. All impediments which aught have rl woo.- "' R ! ~ , rii ~. 4 ..r► - / .1