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s;Jereti expe bent test to enter iota. any specilic I hotel the sans; tune toess . is este. t hat so lang t eats on the a u b j ect, as the G o ver i sineet nut petitsi eof or. it :;1 tu,.; a shall be &wooed to resider their neat effort* ot• l a their own defe.uce, and the cause iii tellies we n ere eV** sseJ, they • tall receive aill . the assist ince s i 's' h can be a ff orded theta by I this countre.--• 'Pr em T y aere fore, it fiat hems st slate I, th:tt Ms M.s— -r.4; e,ty au! en able thesis to have a British force At ci oaged in their support , D o t exceedin g thirty tiontan , il men. At present the number employed- -611 t amoun t to wore than o,ooositen ; a Inch. ,;m e . 110 combined with the Prottiguese troops. I believe, '" will be found sufficient to defend Shut country from ;P:•; the inroad of a French army. Incise esio;eusents, „r., ro t L o rds, must meet with your apprutretton, as i z 0 ,',,, an d jojailmeasuv,s, wiles.. w s are preparedpreparedto , lat. declare. tha' all essidatire ciallil to lo withslrewn o nto the pr ll ill 5i11... flail aoat been for a friredly l's. toice—a voter, which l should always b- desirous e • s ltould be friendly to me, uud which 1 heard on a . 4wl ',met uight—(allisding to the notice gives by t,.,rd Gresieillel—l shina:ti not have thought . it iiscessary to have troubled this II suse, by eatering NI: . st great length into arguments, for the purpose lit 'e; st sliew mg that Oleoc urraitionersita have pro- f see C:!!.l.'d from sentill and true policy. If we advert, tall s y Lords, to toe conduct of Hi. Majesty's Govern- In sit swine years sign, we shall find that the same atuf p „„ et ple guided their measures at slant particular tit's, period. When a French force was about to pro- st st cored to make ass attack upon the i„Jep e risis e n, e o r p erta ...,.d, and there was too much reason to ap. t h e retIC.II. that, by the conitivance of Spain. they 1,, teid hive an opportunity of carrying their threat °sr poi e te,:titied, those who held the reins of Govern- ivy merit in M.: country, did that which 1 must ever s m ~,,t W.li wise and politic. Two individnals, one of um. s.een uatertunately is now sin more. gave iustruc- tta.e, that a Mice 9/sunlit be ready for the assistance in . the CM:emus:tit of Portugal, it it were possside laa shot etch assistance eou'd be uiseftilly atiplied. The tae its itratu ile to whom 1 ellutle, (Mr. Sectetary Fox) . of stlia,e ahintiss mud comprehensive mind will be l int kit revered; and Mr. Secretary Wiudlsain, who, 131st say, PO not much his inferior; thought it is:'. sot, anal prudent to give direetious, flirt every en- . le. sl•ar ter shonll be used to rouse the Portuguese, in Si?, •H'etice of themselves, and if that endeavour should told be succeitatuf. taco, that a BrAialt force should co- sr opera- with thetit.agaisist t:se French. They also directed, that if the impending terror should be so tai great mesa Inc minus of me Portuguese. and they sioeld be disposed to sulsinit a the power of our one elietar, it wed I then be a consideratiou even to tie sdard that assistance, by wines) the reigning family sly, att4lit'renre to -oats distant situation its her colo- isics. Afterwards it so happened, that the e11 . ..1Wy 314. Si. enabled to st•complisls 111/ project of mv.witit4 .ii , is p,, s es o , c i t, an i the n Ilis ,dairie)'s Ciovernineut acted the wisely in tunes); their attention to the matitten- r•ets sate of her cola nal ;lot o ns . i in esi titst s throe ow eir:amitatices, my Lords, I' it the purls. she of slit-w- -ingthat es , otiortille is—a . (led UOWIII. Is tote same with tot tIF , I• , a este ..s• .14 tai ited the measures el I , c the tztutru.oesit t ser.st . :ll to dt country. A principltt, site. 1 ak•w, bath w ter audited. upon every ceinsidera- ..,„,l tisa. Taut, after so well- ,Means have wit..essed ttos made of combat. after MP 151555:11 1144 been IteP ohne, She same policy pervading the whole. wou:J is of et be jest, would it be flie s that we Should - now opt. ~ax ttt cOßltatte Iles moistener. which has so bug t Is. hem 'wets/led 114 tt.e defettce of ttsere people ? sl, Alter we ha te expendosi so much valuable irett- woes after we hate willed so touch vain tide buscel re. —(Lniel cries e hear ! hear) heal. ! .1— could the one Noble Lords prisons., that we should withdraw our reed troops. that we should leave the Porruguese with- rery re aiJ, after we hare thoutr i tit proper to rouse them stet two adieu for the meisiteuinte of their I berths. and slier we have pletl..ted ourselves to moist them 'an- intim cause ? (In 4 - •ver unfortunate recent events die lady have been in Spate. and isolorttmores lam sorry :es! is ay, they are still, I etintend that the defroce of that Portugal is a Resat and requisite object for resisting me power of the usurper over the whole peninsula. hich It vu wit this vie w , th a t, at Ins earlier pi•riod, our ?scrm wore sent first to Portugal, that they might Pr he enabled more tff.tetudly to co-operate with the weds resistant eof Spain. For whatever may Ise -Ail:poised woo Is regard to that coiretr y , I still onsintriisoliat tem; mush is to h e expecte d f the brave spirit of the r -0p1,., tho ug h nu n.; ode more lame n t- their been.; Oka eland under a vii- mid degraded governits.mit.—A the? goy - rutueut. soy Lords, I terns vile, because I this t "emend it was the maker of that breach. whe. titrau4ll which the French armies took posses- nets sign of th e cannery. B ut st i ll. whatever may hale formerly becu expected; whatever revisits they toe have taken toter,. the principle of contend- and '''' v 4 4l mt Feettee, hi that pert of Europe. re- ehtr ni s sitts uischati 4e d, amt the p o li c y of our lisal4lll4 ei tau its test struggle is the Mut. Would you. Il'e'a ativee us to withdraw cur troops front the de- . , ,, e cl l ' ortlipl ! Woul 1 you commetal our •.. ea Ititittg iiie Spaniards to the fate which *Walla cart, Ple, u . 1 This would be to pave the way of the re' I .."'ll'ers CI Ito strew d owers i n his road to the I'l's ut the two kitIKJORIII. it eJlIt:01, I s ets t' At My Leeds, be conte n d e d, th a t suc h con - , d 's"t 0 001,1 be that of wisdom or of justice.— ,t I. iii reapedt. IO butt those c o u a vi es , I em certain :0 she s l e f ence of Portugal is alssoluttiv neer/oar, i . inassitsini eg th it cruse in w hi c h th e S pan i ar d s Ills '::e vnea.ted.ss —The N o bl e 31,41 qui. concluded a Ct.! "7:: ne•getic spe ec h, by itioving,•• The' en humble s the AI l ts. oe Kt:stetted to Ili. M ,yes”, thanking luta I .r les N 1... g actaild I 0 411111111iC•IIII/il C 4. 11141.111e4 111 his :; ,4 .. se ; ttil u•soritig His Ni - sty, that the !Londe :d d i ..1 1... •II o,lll• artistwith ti... hi. sta 114 the pro met) of rat - : w•.4....re,saent* which had he• it um he between I ' "' • ll ' • 11. , }w •y well she Priace 1,1•.g...bt ~.* I 'oettl4iel : alts• ~i tan:.. : • , 'Ni • 5, ..,,,,•• in I um, th 4 tn.s Ilmse ii,smutd tiers 1" ii to eLat'lle Ills M.sjealy to 6 . 1'111 Lie .I••. * 1•.•! ( • . f• .. t t 11, NT11.1.1 , —.. ;1 I 0 1 .• hew 1 - • • v . a , , . • . • i •,, i t b. ell s.s . !. 5, -s , • .•(... Oft.llii it .Sec :•!!;.i a• 1 're toe t ,4. Ad , ~IC . ..: t" . . "'IV ark's ss....bsil s , vs tr, so 11:e wl.tge rmsr•se ~ . , is ;.. t 7.1 I Ile.t 11') I tt • ..•, nit a in., ir k..., nne ta-lc t;ttt 1 .. , ... , ts 'pus, t sue 111 ass ea .t u..ioh 1 'l, Al' conet'ivt• it i .si s ~ny dust y 1.. ssi....:lnr. r . My i...:•.15, it is is k- - I , :ts• •atts to rep, at t:it,se p., li t..t..a tett eh 1 Is sve .o 0.5 ~item 554 so s•roa4ly tv.;cl, lett,' v.:t.i.:, •,.8..: arc, to ;.ail 15" In t' i tenttil•• of Use es t.. - • '. lied. H.,A :, , " in r••, nit... v.,...1 ,iir %.T.- ..t.„ . t• •t urea a 4.' , 11.4.1••rat , 0 u how far we ;01.. am h.seo as-Soled et.lier '. 4 . r ' i or Por.ii. 11• y :l o s t wh e n there was ilt.' g...m . '''''' tO••hJpt! thit ter 0111:1 15..! a•tis t :et: . :tea l a itra'dabi- ' I .'in lie♦ of sercess ; nr, Its I it 'hem my Lord., .for u. to judge what st los e. en at this tone be taken tor the purpose tit broefiting the individual• and corporate tombs-, of that country, which HIV Ma jeuty's Grieerolioriit have induced to contend apinst the power of Fraocc, It ~ ould have formed a sub ject of ■ far dtlli•reut tendency. Ito th,,se times, when the peopae kive great burdens to be4r, it Is nu Milk; cough!, ration, that's° touch money should be •rain voted for the assistance of others, the amount of which has been withhe:d by the Noble Marquis. but, from the papers upon your Lorslsl•ips' tahle, it appears to be our million sterim* In these times, f it tirrOilirs Us periOtlaly 10 eOloilfirr him so large a pottioa of the prop,qty of the (minium should be given for ptirpose si which no Man can say will lw eventually Issmticial. But, my Lords, that is nut only subject 10 which I cell your at tention. The questioli before 3 ou, I affirm, is a question of Wood. I rise, not uu ly to gu.srd the distribution of property, but I rise to plead the cause of those who are again devoted to sp:11 their blood is uo useful c.llllle, and allure it must be uisprolitably shed. Consider, my Lords, thut IVIR are this night to dete iiii ii te whether Ilia 'Majesty's Government shall again squander away, nut oily the treasure of the coun try, but the iivcsi of our fellow subjects-4 onsider the brave armies, which, by their incapacii ) and blind pilgruent, have been lost ; and never did armies 140 more willingly to discharge their duty. and valiasitly sell their lives; and yet they were sacrificed to the visionary schemes of His Ma jes:y's Ministers. Lt is the canine of these brave men I plead before you; and I submit it to your consideration, whether those who have directed the affairs of Ills Malesty'd Government, and who have proved their incapacity in ell their mcii:-uies—is whether, I say, they shall have it in their potter to continue such useless havoc amongst the brave de (ciders of your country ? Iteil-ct upon the loss which has already been siistained in Spain and Portugal ; recollect the antosasof that hoes ; call to mind the deaths of those brave-own who fell at Co. ruin. and that fatal skim ~!;*ch deprived us, of that gallant General. S; John Moores After consi deriug those w:io uselessly shed their blood un der Lord '.‘;':•llingtun, and those who perished at Walcheren. under Lord Chatham, is it poss,ble that we shall not take intu coosi.leratiort the duty which we owe to ourselves and. to the country ? There is not a mats ' except he be within the wells of P a rliament. who does oust 'dearly perceive that the present atchisioistratioo aro not cspable of hold ing tile reins of Government. There is not 1; man whose understanding is so doll, but he is fully tmovinced th re no longer exists the smallest pros- pct of sucee.• In nttenniting to defend the prople of S t rai.i and Portugal, egoist the aggrandised power ul Fiance. 1 will defy any men poe nss common Seise!, to say, t bat our endeavours to linnet tins, , e counties, can be either useful to them, or productive of lulvantage to our. %etre,. Then w hy shou!d our understandings h, Insult,!? 1; ny should the Noble Marquis try to irepow t'icise visionary ides, of preserv ing P. rr. ' 4 ll, is t assisting :strain, which he bow d , ri.nd .0 you tips night. Mromtoietit, there that any rtforts on our part vretit! .t t: tho•rputimi of Framer. We. sue to enn-tip w 11*(.Severipment of thin conntrywa• twined, dot now unlikely it was to be congenial to the pe-ple but ihis vile G , •vernment, as we hare it brined by the Noble Mar quis, pits forcibly anAptaiined in opposition to the treuple s interests, by Lim conduct of His Ma jesty's Government. f challenge, my tiny tnais in this !louse, to rise and assert ilia there is the shadow of probability of three arrangements now mails with Poriu.tal being attended with • likelihood of once , so. Theo,, is it not a question, even of liumanitr, and, dodo. ei.dent of that, of the last importance to tlw preservation of your trout s, Unit there ineu should not Imre it in their power to squander the bf st iesoorces of your army ? Unless Me are omit-lied to place blood totafitienct in •n Allininiatratoo, whew ignorance ■nd capacity have been eiinced by the t gLir. tug conduct witch ever •isgrsceil the ntrasurt sof any Government, recorded to the annals of his. tory, we might to take one station against their fut.lre proieethings, I,ecaiiiie we clearly perceive that the n a it.l visions of their imagination are abut, t to perpetuate the enlalaiiirs which have lately Itefallrr .he country. I was not a little sur prised to hear, this evening, the Ministers them- selves defend the policy of their conduct towards Port..gal, by airopanng it with the policy of the p_roceeding, of Ilia Majesty's former Government. To those provvediims, the policy or the present can by no means be corup.ired. But it as riot a little ex. traordataary, that the measures taken by that Ad mini at raeinn, which w err just wise, as admitted by the Noble Margin% as in.st of the general pa, t of their conduct.ras,sitnuhi ba catcd on the preurnt °erasion, as s model 0( policy. by which the present llisih ters hove justified their trarsactions towards the kingdom of Portugal. It is' extraordinary. that what hitherto met with siothing but censure and abuse, should be taken as an example of wisdom. Tins is the first iurtance, ney Lords, which ran - . afford the least ground to expect that • returning erase or Utidt flitilllding is approaching the present Councils of His Makstr. It Ussery little, Lot it Is something of cussgraiululion to this House and country. It Is.vi been alleged by the Noble Nies:. qui-, that Isi• has 1111 .I.,ulat of Portugal's maintain hog It'elfagiosist the inroads of the Fr-och. - But I am pose soy Noble Fri.-u.l would not gravely assert the truth of such a p . ovitioo, because it would re. tlict ts,rar s: upon his utulrrstautlong, of which sic esi...rt4turti a latter opi ll i 4 /II through the uno'io of Its bk. IVossiol any mass venture to as . . ••• I , that, if Ka lied twice the sautubtr of fitui3h troop• in that country, laity, if we had tiu,ouo Aura rea,Anal•le man would harbour en ex p. that acids a force would be competent to cope %% uh the lamer of the French erupt ? l'ethme4 tla. p se,te Meje•tv'etieeerwileut I nit 11.•'tr c.•udnct towenl' th e 1 4 . n juiSisitt. store w 1 ,i 4. 11. ti.o, that the iwasantry e 1 : It II i••t..O rrgUl4r fortT. would he C :”.1111, - . o 01. its cont•vrt wW h the oli , fsplu t rna; Of CUr u. c. vuntry. At the .atue• I 111 V. Cl.* p.. 1 .11 . -11 ( ... 11.1, (*Wily %hewn, that whHtt•ver rimy hr ettett t.usnl••.• 0., uper. with every cottortera tht tr towrit% cm.- •.sing •wch a firer, wt rW ovvs!st into We field. they have user Yet tl, sir Mild it be expected; with any success *pion the disciplined armies of Vragree. But. iu defiance of all experience. His M.jeny's Ministers are caletilet- Uri upon the defence et Portugal, and the iwistaik e of Spain, lay the ail of this species of force. It is neither. ur n Lords, the Alps, not the ' Pyrenees, nor any other formidable frout;er, which can opt. pose the disciplined armies of a greet nation, nuless the people be rou-ed by principles of ti berty, and well attended by regular troops.— It was our duty to hate 'cultivated that spirit iu the countries we are sillndtug to, by paying greater at tention to the interest. of the 'people. and not by supporting a Goversineet of the most tyrannical description. W About 'assuming any military sci ence, if I *peak the Immune of . coruinon mine. i Mare no helot-01mi iu pionutinCing Portugal et this to tic to be the le .st defeittoble country in Europe. We tee to reflect, Unit it presents, for its size, the most extended femme,- ; that, Incite narrowneas, it motet create considerable difficulty to the cruises employed in nil defet.ce, and offend that which ut tacks loco liar eslva ntagers.. There is another subject. soy Lordii,..l.icls I *wild advert to on the present incense. There is considerable 'misconduct of a certain individual as Minister at Lisbon. I will mention tio names, I should be sorry .tu east any. permnal reflection. But the individual, whatever queblicutions he . may possess, is ter:au:ly notu tit person In be appointed to fill such a situation. It is also remarkable. that the menus's* so much apokets of, the measures which here to be so decisive and errs:lna! in regard to the defence of Portugal. should not Into !writ precirslcd by that information. which Was absolutely arcs scary, In fore any proceed ing should have leen carried into effect. Theo bow crimes it to pan that even the Noble Marquis. upon cowing into office, was menially sir want of in formation on this subject. It appears by one of the lour letters nu your Lordship? table. a let tter written by Mr. Catming to Mr. Villiers, that this information was required on the Sid of September, 1804. and yet no dispatch, upon this subject, arrived in this mutiny, till be yond the period of a year afterwards. With re spect to the general questino, now under our con sideration, I will again ask, shall we permit these men, who hare been deluded themselves; whose transactions have grey where been marked with confusion ; who liAve acted without information ; and who have endeavoured to delude this House. se • well as t: e country, any longer to pease the MOW eondact ? We owe it to the army, we owe it to the navy, we ought to ourselves and to the conntry, that we should nu longer be credulous ; that we should no longer place blind confidence in those who are deaf to lessons of experience, and who are about to increase tie great calamities which have lately be fallen these kingdoms 1 wealth my Lords. most seriously impress • upon your minds, the dreadful erste of our army. after sacrificing the militia to the regulars. and • harassed peasantry, for the supply of your.drticienvies, we are now incapable if ceasing 16,000 men to go on any expedition. Again. I shall come bock to thut point which. 1 before men boiled. and chance...A any man to steed up and my there is the smallest probability of OUCtelet in rsinfing troops to maintain the independence of Portuisal. If so, why should rest not only uselessly squander our lost Ire wane, islet .bold permit the lives of our t.relfe soldiers to be un profitably seceificce!' . .The Noble Manlius has particularly called upon in to say, if after so mach treasure has been expended, cad so many brave men have perished, would we declare to the people of these countries, that they have no longer any ground to expect that future aid will be sup plied ? It h, , s been asked, would we abandon Por t, gni and withdraw our troops? My Lords, I did not rise to make any such deettineion, but I conceive that it would he our duty, shier all the experience which has proved useless to Ilia Majesty's present Government, we ought to consider how fir it will become us to permit such conduct for the future. 1 shall. therefo.e, propose, that instead of the address which has beets proposed o an humbly Address be presented to His Majesty, thanking him for the gracious communication made in his Message, rela tive to the arrangements between His Majesty and the Government of Portugal, and to assure him that this House will give due consideration to those arrangements, as a subject of the greatest import. ance ; but that they are not prepared to give their concurrence to the proposed measures. until they have duly considered the reason' upon which they have been isstituted." -The Berl of Ltvitinont. conceived the Noble Lord would bare conduked himself with mare pro priety and candour, had he submitted at once a motion for the removal of His Majesty's Ministers, which would have been more fair and candid, than the mode be had adopted on the present occasion. The amount of all whifh he had said upon the sub ject. came directly to this—we.ought to abandon the iiiterestsof Spain and Portugal, sod withdraw our troops. The Noble Lord addressed himself to soine individuals, whose opinions would hot have been congenial to his own, had be expressed him self otherwise on that part of the subject. But, at the Lune time, the reilait.ince of all which fell from him in the course of his speech, ass the propriety of withdrawing our troupe. and abandon ing those two kingdoms. The Spanish cause of forefeet a ressonableezpretation of some good likely to result from their straggle to the cause of Eu rope. When this country resolved on giving its assistance in the great contest which was about to he agitated fur the recovery of their independence, it wear subject worthy of serious end grave deci sion. It might have geoevally hero alleged, that all interference, before this petiod, on the Con tinent, would have been injudicious and futile; but Spain, for the first time, presented • coun try, whose populatien were roused by • prin iiile of defeutling their liberties, and were Tv soltrtl not to submit to the yoke of their emir). B r i n g such, it was a new feature in the aspect of Europe, of the greatest importance, as it regarded the Common cause in whirl, we ere engsgra, and 61 4 a ith ',turnout's consequeuces to the affairs is' Ow world. Snub was the origin of what afterwards vesirliterl the hmaar of eveiy Englishussn ; and the principle so mut h apprus el of at that time, ott4iit riot to M isbanderitil at the prevent. The l' 4 Coble F..erlohserred.therr never was a nen.- effici-..t tome rAitird in any country that, that raised which, hoeing the advantage of being officered . 1 by British racers, ought and was errsl to soy army. Could that Noble House refuse their ars7iit mice to a country which hud• suffered e ery as en ally, even from the period of the ), sr I:Q.:* at which time she was entreated by Franit Spain to shut her ports against this cough y,. tal; . ; yet, under the dtinger of antiihiration, Whatever might be the opiniou of Noble 1,01 to the sentiments of doom whom we hail could assure them they huJ gained the iiffbcriooo the whole Cu'itiurct by their endeavours;' :er look to Spain. Iu tio• midst of a revolution, woo it not their confidence is the Dribs') Zlinn.tt f that supported theta ? He had heard,' hibt year, gestions of Noble Lord , ' fist Calls. and oll:14. ports, *eight t o - b e deiire ' rebi up to us re * I ile44e ; but the conduct of Hh Majesty's MiniotTll . contrary, they had made use of the* emit .tinje• served confidence. Whatever might bit the wale. this country had done its ditty. Whet might be . the result, it was impossible for any man to wry ; . but this he would pay, that it would he I' 40 desert those who gave them their 4.4oidi 411.4 assistaoce; on which accoeut Cie A. 14. mewed by the Noble Marquis should hove Lis attlo• port. _ The Earl of Moue seid,when Ministentwereho"4- . ing forth, and boasting of the assistance thee had if. forded Spans, what wet it ?—a nonentity. H- ttioilut prose, trout their own acknowledgments, 'het `.;;u+.. was only a secondary object with them ; for lie liad learned from Officer.. whom he. the Noble - Lori , . had confidence in, that it was the wonder of tf•-• . . Spastish people, that an artily from this ennui ry Ira out been seut to Gallic-ow .It-waa hell oat try- the Noble Secretary, (Liverpool), that the esi,,irt•ii.o • . of the French loins Portugal sl lil lie e ju- thii:.,- • tion of all the follies of the present arlini.o.ira,ii:o. The fusee that ought to have hems employed LI Biotin, was sent to another place, at a time slit u there was au oppori unity of annihilating' h army sip arm sir Bonaparte then in *tins. Would their Lor•lsitips ask him to approve of the conduct of His Majest),'s Ministers. alter shearing such proofs adieu. eintie. cllity, and the want of those rilui.ites which sere lIIIICUIeary for men, in their lawmen, to be pas-sensed of? The people complained, sod justly, of the improvident use of their forces. lu his optuton, the retamiug of Portugal woold 1w only attended wit's disgrace. for it was not defenstble. fir then took a review of Portugal, end of the zeal of it. i.,La bilatits, from which be drew a conclusion, that the country was out defeniaihle, and that the label:lt ants were not worth defending. Upon whirls' ' ground the amendnients of his Noble Friend should have his full support. Lost SIDISOCTII said, he would girt his assept to the Address, render the consideration that Mi nisters should be answerable ; and took a review . of Portugal, its the year 1763, which. he conteurkid, stood in a similar situation to this country as at Ito present moment. She then refused. althistrgh pressed. by France and Spain. to shut her poi s against this couutry ; and it would be the heiliht of ingratitude if we now refused to sup;glart them. • But he sighed net to be considered by the Noble Lords man advocate for His Majesty's pt radii t Ministers. They had not produced a aingle military opittiou of the probth.lity that that country could he defended ; sew had they any reason to believe that the army of this country was in • heifer Oat* than twelve months ago, when, from ,the oche k ilt:oleic of the Commander-in-Chief. th e y Id czy ,f•- not command a disposable force of 161004.1 wen. Was the Local Militia tomplete ? Was the Stil;- tie of Ireland in a state to dtfend it ? But. under all those circumstances, be was willing to. stump t .. the Address, under the cuosideratioa that Ministers were alone responsible. The Marquis of LANIPOWN said, there was no anallea, as argued by the Noble Viscount mouth), between Portugal, in 176-2, and this coon. trv, at the present day. He agreed with the Noisier Lord, as to the responsibility of Ministers, bat he would ask their Lor drhips,whet ner, after tile mishit' of 31inisters in the late campaign, they .oul.l entrusted? The Noble Secretary of State said all things dust have a beginning ; it was the exprtoes sion or a foolish man, thatbe was always beginaieg to do what was right; the Portuguese (invent. went. and the Administration, seemed to be iii the same state. Did Sir Arthur Welltsh y. at (ha battle of Vimeira , report the v a lou r o f the l'ortu.- goose ? When Sir Johu Moore was sent inlet Splint with his army. was ha not obliged to leave 1%000 men behind hitu in Portugal.to drill the iuhabi ants into obed.ence ? These were the people whose sof. fections and gallantry they had heard so much of. Was their a man of their nation 'thieved Split); or present at the battle of Talavera ? Wes t.ot Spain subdued by the corruption of their Government ? Was it not through that source that the anus of Bonaparte became successful ? And what pledge had their Lordships, that the Porto guese Government would not act in the tt.tiLe want ? It was not wifte to prosecute a system which had been proted b.d, and unsupported by the opinion of any military officer. Under this view, he should vote for the Amendment of the Noble Lord. Lord HARM/WU spoke in favour of the Ad dress. and observed. if Ministers were lied respoit. spible, it 'hewed that they possessed a greater 4. - gree of credit than was 'flowed to them. TUC Hi guitieots of the Noble 111arquits only went t, vh•-v that lie wished to dispossess the present lAlini.t. s, for the purpose of putting soother set of nt. their situations. Lord ERSILINa.—Iiad the late Adminivt , iiii.n ever left their couhtrymeu to perish ? A. a La , s) , , he would say, had they ever left them to be mar dered ? No ; but the present had. Were lbw'. the men that their Lordship* ought to crowd ; erten. stained with the blood of ilk tr. countrymen .1 12 very little time the aright would be takeq it e heads of this self-created Nlsnistry ; urie, if IL, heads themselves were trken off. it itoolit h e o f very little consequence. They sent intifiel :te Spain, and the omits of France "bray.. ram,' it. It would hare been better for theta to have senttnlie waa l a aek, and the Nuble and Learned Leg{ Ole the top of it.—(4 lasigh.)—%l'hat were lb, v tr , heir. if they give Intl confidence to the st 4 , 0 intio; of the Nehle Secretaries . ? nothing mere ta le than that. when the French tom-died ibtel g al, they would he surfiria.-1.1, astonished, to se.4 l , Engli.limas and a Po..tugurse locked iii other's arms. There was net a mili:ary map io Me country who would risk his reputation - 6y gisitti;