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to w' postpone the cont.' erstion until 'lett all a fuller attendance of Irish Members. Lord A LTHORP, from whist . had fallen from the Hon. and Learned Member 114 r. Foster) hoped, that time would be given to discuss fully the stature end object of the proposed measure. Nlr. C. GRANT said, that his I - lon. Friend had mentioned to him his intention of proposing the present measure, but that lie had tint held out to him any prospect of .venttsal support. Ile would cot object to the introduction of the Bill ; but in airing so, he must not be understood as pledging himself to support the Bill, if it should be carried tom • further stage. Mr. CALLAGHAN said, that, under these disco* * . raging c irciimstances, he saw no use in verse/tering with the Hill. lie must however say, that the cots. sequence of not snaking some alteration in the p r event state of the regulations of the Houses of industry is Ireland would he, that tevrtal hun dreds of peepers in Fruity pariah's would he thrown loose and unprovided fur upon the country.—He consented to withdraw , his mot' IRISH PARTNERSHIPS. Mr. Alderman Wools named for leave to bring in a Bill to roano te the rmoloyment of the Pour in Ireland in fisheries and maitufactorics, by the encouragement of Pariserships. The worthy Alderman said, that this Bill stood over from !I lest Senior. It waa only an amendment of the old law. The alteratioo grab actually access try to induce English capitalists to embark their property its trade in Ireland; live , were many errors and ambiguities in the existing Ad, '. % D hoti it wont., he well to amend and obviate. Mr. L. Fovrta complained that this was the third Rd/ introduced within half an hour, to alter the law in Ireland. This Bill professed to encourage fisheries and minnfirtenrcs, and yet in it there was not one word shoat caller. It was not however of the omissions ' but of the ha dcontents of flee Bill that he complained. It ha d fur a long tone been the practice of Ireland to admit occult partner ships, amid whereever any ambiguities formerly occurred, they had been in an many recent instances pointed oat and explained by &rend 0000 s in Courts of Equity, that the pew I tire it arch partuerships was rendered quite clear mud inlet lieible. He could not therefore see the utility of the worthy Aliterminex preposition. Mr. Wit. !Jammu. said, that though these matters may i l be clear enough in Ireland, yet it did not follow that people in Esigland wire equally converses. in the decisions of Irish I Courts of Equity. In the present state of Ireland , it was very desirable to encouraze English capitalists, and he was therefore in favour of any explanatory measure which could Live that tendency. Mr Pt.UNIt rel. said thie was not • Bill of regulation, bat ono which went at once to sweep away, by au unqualified repeal, whalevir had grown systematic in a code of commer cisl law which was perfectly understood by the people. He hail had great eaperience in the Equity Conrts of Ireland, and he mold assure the Home that be hail nut observed any difficulty in the operatioa of the existing law. The worthy Alderman had nut yowled ant the defects in the eavitisig rode—hail lie done so it was competent fur him to propose a sarc.fic remedy, instead of which lie called spun Varhamessi to repeal the whole code. Mr. Alit. mum Worm) replied, that he bail stated, as he cm.ceir ,. . l , the real Object of his Bill, which was to remove I the prevailing uncertainties respecting partnerships in the Cow is of Law. which prevented in a great degree English ltArt•tliste rmliat king in Irish trade. He could state a spie l' Tic evil, as the law stood, which he was ready to prove. If soi necult or sleeping partner went into the counting.house of the firm in which he was engaged to look over the books, he was liable, according to a division in the Courts to be P ' tel down as nu attire partner, and his whole property to be 1 i ,,pren.ibk•Air the affairs of Ate content. Now the fair, and, t as to England, the legit principle was, that an occult partner 'armlet he merely liable fur the property be had embarked, the munnal of which was registered, where any man could t see it 14r one shilling. There was, it was true, not one i S nord abort fisheries is the old Bill, bat be meant to intro ' dare the subject in the aininsdniesst. In introducing this topic, he hail no other wish than to serve the trade of Ireland, and augment its prosperity; harming, as he did, many capitalists who would, if the proposed alterations were adopted, embark a part of their property with the Irish reside'''. But if the Gentlemen of Ireland had no totting for the interests of their own country, nor any desire to increase its wealth by the introduction of English capital,* could not help it ; Vibe Irish Geallemen would not interfere for their own country, it was no fault of his; he wis ready to withdraw his motion. If it was nut worth their while to attend to their affairs—if they thought them sat little worth Ihrir attention—he must only leave them to take rare of them as they could; and express hit readiness to withdraw his 'notion, in the propositiou of which he was &Inseminated by • wish to serve the trade of Ireland. Lon' JOCrILIIII hoped the worthy Alderman would sot :. withdraw the Bill. He certainly should, in the first is. stance, support the motion of the worthy Alderman, as he felt himself Nitwit to support any measure which had a kill ileac, to encourage the embarkation of the capital of se English merchant in Irish trade. After a few words from Mr. Wm's', Mr. Alderman MOOD obtained leave to bring in his Bill. 1 MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS IN SCOTLAND. Mr Mtiwerett, gave notice, that on Thursday week be p, winslit submit a motion to the. House on the state of the manufacturing districts in Scotland. STAMP DUTIES BILL. . - Inv! CASTLEREII6II t37.orrolir the seated reading the New•paper Stamp Duties Bill. SEIZURE OF ARMS BILL. _ _ _ Lord CAITL;;;;ZilIltti; moved the Order of the Day that the Meuse du resolve itself into a Committee upon the Srisiitr of Arms Bill. Mr. I.amweott ruse and said, that from the best and moat r.ci,ii iaturntation be had been able to obtain, his opinioos 1,..,1 beret confirmed respecting the state of the county of Du:'tam He adhered, therefore, to his first opinion, that iiii ity whatever existed fur extending the provisions of this Bill to the county of Duelists. There were nu secreted anus there, nor any such spirit as that which was attributed to the people of the county by ►is Majesty's Minister,. Au extravagant statement respecting that county, bad iiliprarril under the brad of " State of the Nation." in a Ministerial Paper—(the Hon. Member did not name which of tilt Government Priiiiit)--which the Magistrates them 'wives f, It it their dnty to contradict as perfectly erroneous, ii,r,,ezls the Clerk of the Peace of the County, whose letter 1,, had seteived to that effect. The only way that remained 1 ir iiiiii hi record his opinion was, by moving interact inns to tae curontittee that the Bill should not exteod to the county vi Durhim. Mr. Powxtr7 was sorry that Wealthl not entirely concur :Is the view takes of the county of Durham by his Hon. s'olleagite. At a meeting of the Matistrlstit on a late occs situ thirty-six out of thirty.eight Magistrates were shoo lot, I, of opining that it was expedient the yeomanry should remain on permanent ditty. He keret that many palls of slur county weer tranquil, but the precautions of the Ma 1041.:Ites shewed that preventive measures were necessary. Sir. I.assirron's motion was negatived. Sir. Biome complained strongly of the coercive nature of this Bill, which was in effect mainly directed against the Ai& tressed unemployed population of the country. The stale of that distress could be appreciated, when he informed the House, that eat of 10,000 frames ■t Nottingham, 3,171 sire isisertgauyed. He saw the other day in the country per who were a sort of matter maunfactuters, who employed sus I. men suid apprentit es, chasing the ditches at wages of a Silliiillg lIW eighteen-pence a day. Coercive and Gagging 'nil. ,any aggravate, but could out remove such a state of itiiiirrati. There was no proof of any disturbancrs at Not tingham—why then in the uhiiruct of proof should guilt be inferred? Ile would therefore move that tastructiom be cirrus to the Committee to except Nottingham from the vim., •tioo of this Bill. Lord Itancurrs, in seconding this motion,coateoded that t he . Beet of these measures .11131 d he to keep olive sslsls of ,iritation smog the unfortunate people of the coesdry. la o ur iIIMU O oat 618,000 inhabitant., 1,1100 were oat of este ploy. Ile, in every view of the ease, lookefl at this. mewl., as one of the in oil arbitrary and najustitiable that had ever been submitted to the considetation of Parliament. They bad no'y to look to its practical operation in Ireland. where every ssiseces of horror and atrocity hail beet, eisnintitsed in a county so unhappy nod go misgoverned by the arts of man, and yet SO blessed by Pruvidenee.--( Hear. hen' 4-- The atrocities perpetrated it, that country under this Act had been well described by an How. :timber last night (Mr. Hatchinsain)--they were sorb sa no nuns could contemplate without horror here. Against the midnight search fur arms he would p ro test, and would declare his determination in the same words as an Hon. and gallant General hail ex pressed his—that if ever his house was attacked at mid night he 'Wald (eel it ht, linty, too long as I.e possessed the real feelings of an Englishman, in resist such a mode of pro ceeding. He suuld mist it as became him. Mr. tlivxman briefly supported the motion. Mr. MAR/1/1, on perusing the Hill, felt erinvineed that it contained nothing which could affect the pour man's riches Or property except he possessed Are-arnm, for which lir could 'have no use. Had the Bill been one for the protection of game, the Gentlemen opposite would sot have objected to st. The motion was then negatived. Mr. PROTIIRROF then spoke at some length, hut almost wholly in indthle in the gallery. He seemed inclined. from the few obw.rratiunt which were audible, to stoppurt the new Bills thronghort. Mr. Arrows hoped the insportance of the measures before Parliament would be sufiicient apology fur trnohling the Howse with the recital of his opinion. on a subject already exhausted. He considered the cause of the disorder com plained of In be distress, which disorder was heightened by persons inking rid saw Inge of that (flatten, to increase the fer ment of the public mind, though he hoped that each a feeling was very far from being general. He did sot wish to recur again to the Manchester subject, bait be lamented the refusal of inviry into it. He did nut think the prevalent alarm warranted the impending toes sores, which he considered as some of the most repug nant to the constitution sod the rights of Englishmen, and most contrary to the old right of possessing arms for the de. fence of families and their properly. He commented on the terrific, and as it would moot likely happen, indecent cir cumstance of houses being entered by night, on the informs. Lion of an informer unseen and unknown. Ile thought the evidence communicated to the House by the Prince Regent ant sufficient 11 warrant such a measure. Hr dill out approve of subjecting all the counties to the effects of the Bill whew in many of diem (Durham arid Nottingham Lad been just policed, he would add his own, Southampton), there was no indication of disturbance to give a plea for the application of the measures. Those who supported the present measures must have done it from regard for Mims ters, and not for the Government, and would lament too Isle the evil their fears hail mode them run into. He apolo gized for trespassing, having before confined himself to a silent vote. The 1144tise then resolvell itself into a COMMiIIeCOII the Bill for Searching for Arms._ . The first clams; being read, and about to be pnt, Mr. Broom, rose to propose that two Magistratea should be required to direct the search to be made, instead of one, and that the words "or by right" should he omitted. He stronly objected to the whole measure. He trusted Eng lishmen were out so debased as to submit to it. Had the Hon. Members ever seen the distress and agony occasioned by the execution of a warrant on a commis action, they woo Id recoil from the idea of submitting the dwellings of the people to domiciliary visits by night. Among all the things which quickeued the consummation of the French Revolu tion, the crimes sod horrors of which made bum shudder, there was nothing that acted so powerfully as the domiciliary visits of the police. Wind difference was there between those visits stud the right given to Magistrates by the Hill? It would sever succeed; the searchers would certainly find the arms, if there were any, missing. Were they then prepared to force the discovery by torture? He could out believe that even that House would vote for such a measure; yet it was ato . y consequence of the Rill. tie moved as an Amendment, the substitution of " two" for " one" Justices of the Peace, and the omission of the words 6 ' or by night." - - Lor.ICAITLEISACAN 1 , 11 support of the original chime. said, that a similar Bill bad passed the Horse is 18 It, and yet It was assumed that the Hill was incompatible with the spirit and practice of the constitution. In so period since the rebellion had tlrtre been such need of such nwasuress. The only alarm the Honourable Member evinced war, • dread that the magistrates, whir were the guardians of the poli tic rights, sbouklbreak in soil violate them, never coutimple tint tbem as protectors; lu twilit show that measures like that before them were the frequent practice of the constitution. The HOD. Member seemed to admit by his attempt to qualify the measure that it was in a great degree accessary. It was singular that it shunld be so stoutly assumed that no such measure had ear before been known, when nu longer ago than 1812 a similar one bird passed through that House, after the deliberations of many able men upon it, who were quite a• such Wert-Neil for lite country as the Honourable Member himself could be. He slid nut Incas to say that there was no opposition; there was sio more than what was usual in passing laws of such • character.— The present Bill Cs" better guarded against the undue au thority of Magistrates than that of 1812, which not only allowed a Magistrate to arise arms supposed to he stoical, but such as were obviously useful in protecting the house, because the banditti then traversing the country were avow. edly in search of arms. He would state the ressou which made it necessary to grant the power to one Magistrate limeade( two. Magistrates were to am on information that arms were deposited which were to be used for illegal purposes. If a Magistrate then had to scud into a remote district to get the assistance of another Magistiatr, the arms might in the mean time he removed; • variety of instances might occur i• such • period which would render the information use less, as indeed the value of it must depend on the prompti tude with which it was acted 11111. He would next give his reason fur givisne the power of search by right. By day there would be little chance of succeeding in the discovery of arum. He did nut mean to say, that this was cut a strung, an odious measure of power, but there was • spirit to exag gerate every thiog; soil it was assumed, by very grave au thorities too, that the m.a.ures eyed their origin 'solely to the unbounded and unexampled wickedness of the pre sent Ministry. He would chew that the measures bad been practised before in the working of the Constitu tiou, and that too at a period must prised by Great- Mel! opposite, being that of the %%og Administration be fore soil after the rebellious of 1715 and 1745. It se hap pened, that no fewer than two Bills of the kind had been passed before the year 1745, red three after it, all by the Whigs. The wily ilifferr nee observable was, that they had carried the principle 14 the present Bill to ■ great pitch of severity. The first measure Inuit have been carried very shortly after the Bill of Rights, whets it was yet quite fresh in their memories—and ao duslit it ought to be considered a fair sample of those Whig ductile,' which had been so frequently specified to that Horne. There was danger at that time as in this; the spirit of discus tent among the Highlands, was however a more gene rous and ch.valrouri one that. that of the present day. Yet what was the spirit of the laws of the Parliament of Geo. I.? They first rased 11111 Act for disarming the Highlanders, which was without limitation as to time. The 11th Geo. I. made it highly penal for 'how who had trees smirched, yet to ►etain arms; the offenders were in serve his Majesty as soldiers in North America. The 19th Geo. 11. was parsed to enforce the provisions of the let Geu. I. which was reinforced with 'treatise orevisious and made it trans poristims to posses" arm. at all. Thi■ law had been passed three times far successive periods of *eves years each. It ens, in abort, penal in a very heavy degree, during the reigns of Gee. I. and 11. fur them to have arms stn any pr. tepee. Really, the Gretlemen opposite ought to know history a little better, mid mitt describe Ministers as the must wicked and mischievous, for doing that which hail beets so often and rigorously done under the gravest Whig authorities. If the House passed the Bill at all, they shirtild render it as effective as possible, else the people would only derive the *errors of it, wishosit pining any of the adrausages intearled for them by pass.ng it. He rensioded the Gentlemen opposite that all the coercive Acts of Geo. I. nod 11. w►sci be had ►ees, alluding to. were en forced by one Magistrate. His conscience compelled him to int 'Atm* the MI, because the country was nasafe without it. Mr. Dataticitiew said, thos far, then, 11w House had sue. ereded ; it was at length ackowelsidged that the pr, sent snes.ore was contrary to the spirit of the constitution ; whether they were doomed hereafter Cu hear it praised, like the restrictions un meetings and Ike pee.% as an improve. meat on the roostiintion, it was insgpossible then to deter mine. For the present it was allowed to be a restraint; and opt. what ground aid A. Noble Lord support it ! He 1.4. 1 takeo to • favourite mode of •rgunieut of late; he turn,ii round to his (air. Ifroughlenea) Hon Friends, and said, " Didn't I pass marl rot-outlet:a Cow or five years ago w If fa k e d w h e th er or not he thought the Bills nieces sary, the reply was, " I bronchi ahem down heroes. I thosight them necessary; I only had tools. 1812--now I have gut fire. Why do you object to these, eilwo you su ff ered those to pass Which were ten times worse r Mr. Brougham) would not allow the argiinwnt ; it did not apply to him or his Honourable Friend*. The Noble Lord should use them to thus, wily who sopported him. In reply t o the obj ec ti on against subject's( bowies to night seeerboig for arms, they had been 101.1 that by Jay the arms might, on any alarm, or the approach of officers or troops of horse to seize them, they might be removed, and the secret, rendered useless. The same argument lay against passing any law at all. Was not the Hill itself ■ statutory warning? dud could there lie any danger in the simpletons, who (upon reading of its haring passed that House, and knowing as they wool', from the Neolipepere, the time of its enforcement) shoed,' neglect to hide their arms' The Bill was the furthest from givillf any security fur the detection air**. The Noble Lord 1'4.1 beets r:ry. pointedly replying to something which was supposed to Sw uttered in • another place. He had always understood that place contained the concentrated essence of wisdom, which was enjoyed in a particular manner, no doubt, by his Lordship's colleagues, awl by nose more than the noble and ingenious Secretary of state for the Hume Department. Now if Hwy did ens approve of that hope which formed the object of the Noble Lord's reply, and which was understood to be a protest, why did nut they assemble, rad front among their great stores of (engraft and grammatical merit prepare a costlier-protest ? It would bare coat them little besides words, in which they abounded. The Hills of Gro. I. and 11. which had been thrown against them, had one merit ; however severe they were, thes answered the purpose for which they were ea. acted. Those Rills were nu doubt a great violation of the constitution, and were only to he excused by the absolute necessity which demanded them. There was then a rebellion st•lking through the land; there was a disputed succes sion; there were foreign aids offered in support of the claims of the Pretender. Had the country now any rebellion, any Pretender, any foreign enemy, any domestic levy, any Com mission sitting at Edinburgh to administer for the exiled King? What was there in our case to compare with the dangers of that period ?—(//sar, frost Ms ilimisteri,,l —Good God! was it then really to be assumed that the peo ple were turbulent la that degree ? Where had there been any symptom of this rebellion! Was it not discernible that the rising, as it had been called, had been put off from one time to another, according to the convenience of Ministers, until yesterday, which had been positively announced as the last lime of rising! So full had the people become of alarm mid (Sanger, that seeing posted on the walls large bills in aerilaed Remember the Ilth of November!" it was readily supposed that this bad a mysterious relation to the *themes of the rebels, until it was luckily discovered that a connexion existed between this and " the riches! Stale Lottery Wheel ever drawn, containing eight prizes of 20,0001," though, afterwards, it was discovered that there were only four prises of 20,0001.—(fmegkler )—He begged pardon for intritdieng on the departm.ut of the Chancellor of the Exclurser. The rebellion of Scotland hail been aggravated and much height ened by those very measures which the Noble Lord was so apt to approve ; their Whig predecessors lacked the expe rience which they had kft for the prevail Parlianseut. It was noi by those TeRSOfeS they rxtingaished the rebel lion, hut by following them up by a series of contains. tory ones. Immediately after the rebellion, they abo lished the residue of feudal tyranny iu Scotland; it was to the abolition of heritable jurisdictions, that wisest and most constitutional of their m rrrrrrr r that they owed their eventual success and tranquillity. it was the wise policy of • Lord Chatham to throw the Government sin the confidence of the Scotch people; this enabled him to say, as he had done, that he had gone North in search of merit, awl had found it, whereas his predecessors had found nothing but rebellion. Such was the case that be should draw from the Acts of Gee. I. and 11. instead of the partial and naked statement of peculiar facts used by the Noble Lord. The present motion should certainly have his support. He maintained the right of keeping arms, not only for private defence, but to *hew the Government, if they neglected or infringed the Consiiintion, that they were in danger of re. siPIXIIIre front every man.—(Honsfrom the Ministerial side.) —Those were not the times, nor was he the person to utter sentiments which might rouse up the people to overturn or assault the Guveromeid. If the doctrine he had urged was wrong, be had the greatest authority to support hint, whose words he had almost copied. Blackstone had its two places said the same thing. After some further remarks, the Hun. and Learned Gentleman concluded his speech, and sat dow• amidst much cheering. Mr. CANNING the• rose, and said, that he was willing to allow the principle last asserted by the Hon. Gentletnau, properly qualified. He hinted at the danger of such a speech going forth. If any proof were wanting, that the constitution required • qualificatios of the right of bearing arms for de fence, he could spew it in that immortal Statute the Bill of Righte. 'lle words of that Statute were, that all subjects, being Protestants, were to have arms. Ile did not mean, by poiating out this qualification, to intimate that the ex. clesiou of Catholics was • necessary measiere at present. He only wished to phew that the right, even in its first declara tion, was not unqualified, and to insist that it must at all future periods, as well as stow, be qualified according to the convenience of society. That brought him to the provi sions of the statute before Obeli'. He appealed to the Bill of Rights, and the spirit of that Bill, and their Whig ances tors who hail enacted it, and required them to assist in re straining a right, the exercise of which bad become danger. ors. He admitted that a sufficient case ought to be furnished; but he thought that after allowing the Training Bill to pass, which implied some acknowledgment of danger, they ought to enable the Government to seize the arms which were thus admitted to be in request. There bad been two or three stubborn attacks made on the measures Sled on this Bill among the rest. " Its highly unconelitu linual," says one; "its quite unpreeealeoted," says another. It certainly was nut unconstitutional, or the House would not be sitting, as it then was in Committee spun it. As to the other case of precedents he should furnish them from that wonderful era of Whig Administration the Hon. Gentle men opposite prided themselves upon .0 much. In doing it, Ids slboahl, by necessity, reply to • document, containing false and impudent assertions, respecting the period alluded to. He then read the Protest of s ome Members of ;he Peerage, against the Bill, in its passage through that House. He was of opinion, that it was a libel on the great names signed beneath it, in which the real persons had no concerti. For their habit■ of life, education, and thought, must be such as to lead him to suppose that they had read " finsullett's Continuation of the Motor/ of Eng laud." He would prove to the House, that the Whig exposi tion of the right of carrying arm., as it appeared in the enact messisof the period referred to its the protest, namely, the Re bellions of 1715 and 1745, differed only by a greater degree of severity from t►e present Bill, and he particularly aiktressed himself to those in whose tars the speech of Ilse Honourable Gestkma■ was yet ringing. He then went into a close examinations of the provisions and penalties of the Bills before mentioned by Lord Castlereagh. Having iron clnded his review of them, thus—he rid, it appeased th a t from the rebellion of 1715 to 1745. and from that period till it pleased God to put an end to Whig administration alto gether, the Statute Book hail never brru without some re►ere Acts of the Whigs. He compared the Art of Gee. 11. with the present, and fumed the penalties and provisions of the latter were by far the mildest. He concluded by objectiug to the Amendment. Mr. TlltftneY wished the Right Hon Grettletnan would persuade his colleagues to imitate some of the go nd done by the Whigs, justead of copyist; t h em wily in defect,. They were indeed dealt hardly by. As there was nothing very sib. is etiustable iu the arguments of his Honourable Friends, they were new called on Is answer a paper whirls hit Lodehip had got from weather piers; bat being rather •ttaide to manage it with sufficient dexterity. had band ed it rarer in his Right Hosourable Friend, who, to he ogre, had her n a little rough with it, and he (Mr. Tierney) was (kabinet whether he had sot committed breach of privilege. The Right Hotiourable Gentleman was, however, happy to have coy thing on which he could rimit changes, especially if it gave as opportunity fur assaolting the Wings. Was his enmity so implacable to them that be could not erase, even when they were willing to acComamodate themselves to she fears of others? °boom too, the Right Honourable Gentleman had his ease ready rut mad dried, fur in the warmth of his speech be had dent the paper across the table, and then it was in a tolerable stale of preparalitos Perhaps it would not be impossible fur Ilse Whigs to fralernise with the Right Honourable Gristle soma ; thete was a time when be sat nearer to them, and if they were going to step into power, who could tell but that the Right Honourable Gratlemos might tender his friendlier, and, looking right sod left, observe to his new friends," you can easily dispose of me; you see f am not particular about my rompany." The Right How. Gentleman (Mr. Tierney) combated the legal and historieal Bergmann of the previous speaker at great kerb; he con chided by caromed, obit-ohs' to the proposed Bill, sod sap. parting the Amendment. Mr. WILSON spoke in support of the Amendment. Mr. B. WILIIIIMIAN argued against the Amendment. Mr. Wiliam said the main question was, was dome suffi cient degree of danger to juseifythe measure? After the , steternests be had beard front the lion. Members for Lanes shire and Lanark, be could not but think that • selficsent cue had been made out to justify the House in peaslnt it. Lord Gesso, CAVENDISH expressed his detrasissatins to support the amendment. He wished to brow from the Noble Lord, why the County of Derby hod been included within the operation of the Sill! General Gmlovelies said, that cosvinced as he was of i.e arceiseity of the measure, be MO not satisfied with the march by nigh.. Sir M. Vf. RIDLit believed the dill was necessary, bat argued against the clause empowering the search by night, and others of its provisions. Mr. Livirr•Voit was (avowable to the general principle of the Bill as accessory to prevent the explosion of a rebel lion In the disturbed counties, of which there was some danger; but sakes the asersdnsent should be carried for taking sway the nocturnal search, which might become the source of great Musa, be should feel it his duty to oppose, the measure wholly. WILIIIRTORCH thought that the perfect publicity at feudal as all transactions of that maitre, by mesas of Newspapers, would prevent ell improper exercise of the powers conferred by the clamors. Sir .1. Uttar said, that if the clause respecting the noc turnal search were insisted on, he should, fur once, oblige Gentlemen opposite with his vote.—(A laugh.) Mr. PROT/WWI said a few words, which from the cos. fusion in the House were sot intelligible is the gallery. Tie Homo thee divided. The number, were— Foe the original motion.. 415 For the amendment lO7 Majority lOB The astrodomes, was t►e►efore lost. Or the clause bring read. specifying the conaties and places to which the Bill should extend, a conversation arose us the state of Westmoreland, Northumberland, and others of the adjacent counties, is which Mr. Burster; Lord LOWTSER, sod Mr. BluttlinAJl, participated. General WALLACS said, that he believed, from the juror elation be bad received, that Carlisle was is as dangerous a situation as any other place in the country. The city of Coventry having beta included in the clause— Mr. P. Moots said be had written a leiter sad bent a espy of the Bill to the Mayor and Coencil of Coventry, and that though the Corporation of that city were engaged in hos tilities wit► the rest of the inhabitants almost as regularly as his Majesty's Ministers were with the people of Loudon and the rest of the country, they, in their answer, had not ventured to say Inner than that there was nothing to be ob served is that city but loyalty, pod order,and "obedience to law. Bat be should reserve the further übrervatitbas he bad to 'make on this Bill till the question on receiving the Report. Sir M. W. RsoLry observed, that he was sure it would gratify the Noble Lord to learn, that front intelligence which be bad received that morning from the tows be re presented (Newessile•upon-Tyrse), there was every appear mace there of tranquillity being restored, and that the people were rapidly abandoning those habits and practices into which they bad been seduced by the machinations of the evil.disposed. The clause was thee agreed to. When the remaining clauses had been read— Mr. TIBIMILY asked, which albs Bills the Noble Lord in tended tie brie( under the consideration of the House tomorrow! Lord CASTLYREACH said. that he considered it to he essen tial to the security of the country, that they should all be carried thrown% the different stages with the utmost prac ticable dispatch. But the measure lie was must minions to press to-morrow, was the Stamp Duly Bill. Mr. BROUGHAM said, that the Noble Lord must hive been aware that ibis was the Bill the meet likely to be op. posed, not only on acumen of the stamp duties, but the re. citerrisaacee. _ _ The Howse thee resumed, the Report was brought up, and ordered to be received this day. BANKS (IRELAND). Mr. CALLAGIBAN brought m a Bill to repeal the Baskets' Art (Ireland), which was read a lint sad s►cond time, or dered to be printed, sad committed to the 10th March. The House thew adjourned at • QUARTER PAST ONE O'CLOCK. BRITISH PRESS. LONDON. WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 15, 1819. The following coninsunication was received last evening from a Correspondent at Manchester Il MANCIMITER. DECEMBER 13 9 Isl 9, Four o'clock, p. m. " It is with extreme pleasure I announce to you, that this place remains in quiet up to this hour.— The meeting which was intended to be held by the Reformers has not taken place. Various causes are assigned fur their not meeting, but the prevail. lug opinion, in fact, the visible reason is, the ex tensive arrangements and determined disposition of the Magistrates to repel any such attempt on the part of the Reforsniats. " The town is crowded in every quarter from the grout influx of strangers, and, doubtless, had the meeting taken place, it would have beets mat less numerous than that of the 16th August. The greatest apprehensions were entertained this inn g by the peaceably-disposed inhabitants, as it was feared the Re!ormers would vigor ouvly rtsist any hostile measures adopted by their opponents ; however, it has given the high evt satibraction to the moderate-thinking pert of the population of this place. that the Radi cals have abandoned their intention to meet ib fu►ure. From the display of military, we resemble a garrison more than a menufeeturioy, district ; for. tilicatitis and gunnery appear* to be more oar study lima the sale of cotton psis Se oath for the blessings of peace under the existing quoit I I understand the meetings at Eccles sod other vil. loges in the neighbourhood have not taken pl lee. Il is feared there may be disturbances during the night." Great anxiety was naturally felt its town in cense quesice of the very extrusive and onuses' prepara tion* made by the civil and military authoriti rll Manchester. in anticipation of the meeting whirls was advertised to he held there no Monday. * We lately published a copy of a circular letter which was said to have been transmitted by the borough reeves and constables of Manchester and &lined to certain of their friends, an n ou n ci ng th e i r apprehen sions that the Reformers were on the eve of break ing Mtn Open violence ; and now we find. in esir - roboratiou of this i n t e lli gence . th at i n a placa rd which they have caused In he extensively circulated in Manchester, they " epprelsend that seasons dis turbances and outrages may arise out of the meet ing advertised to be held ow Monday in St. Georges; Fields, Manchester. and from other similar wee ings to be held in the neighbouring villages." The Magistrates, however, do not forbid the meeting, bat they CAUTION the inhabitants to remote it their own houses on the day of the meeting. and recommend the wellsdisposed, in the event of any disturbance in the streets, " to place lights in their upper windows.-4i measure which may moot esseo tially contribute to their own safety. and to die assistance of those engaged in the preservation of the public peace." The greater part of the 115th regiment marched into Manchester last week, the Cheshire yeomanry are quartered in the neighbour hood, and an additional military force is so disposed as to be summoned, if necessary, at a short Notice. Rut the very means of safety imply the extent of the danger, and we must again say that in our view of the case. the Magistrates of Manchester ought Hot to suffer a meeting to take place from which they have so much reason to apprehend dangerous consequences ; for in the event of a tumult. should any unfortunately arise between the troops and the people, no alarm can be entertained so far as the general tranquillity of the country, or even the safety of the town of Manchester are concert ed, because the military force in the towu of Man chester and its vicinity. composed as it is of pro bably the best troops in the world, and led by some of the best officers, must be sufficient to crush any feverish indication of iuquietude on the part of an uodisciplined mob ; hut humanity most shudder at the thought that any blood should be spilled in domestic quarrels, when by a seasonable exercise of authority so great • calamity might have been avoided. Considering the recent occur rences in Manditster s the angry spirit thence ex. cited. the alarming character of that part of the country, and the nature of the intelligence which appears by their public notifications to have been received by t h e Magistrates, there is imt, we be lieve, au intelligent man in the kingdom who would nut applaud the Magistrates if they prohi bited the meeting altogether. It was remarked a few evenings since by one of the Treasury writers, that the Radicals hoped to accomplish no incousiderable part of their derv.. rate object by the operation of panic, and by spread ing throughout the country a mysterious alarm. It such be really their purpose, mid that it is known to the Moisten , and their agents, we cannot sufficiently admire their simplicity to call it by nu harsher name, in giving such effectual aid to the enemies of our peace, for undoubtedly whatever panic and alarm are felt in the country were principally excited by the mysterious denunciations of the Ministers and their partisans. Had the Government earnestl♦ set themselves to a fair consideration of the state of the country, and whereier they discovered danger applied vigorously the powers of the law, the evil we now deplore and dread had never reached its present alarming magnitude. But by such a quiet mode of proceeding no eclat could have beet► ob. tained, nor would the great services of the Minis. ten have been recognised. The danger undoubt edly is of no sudden growth, and might have been checked with much less difficulty and more effect if it bad been treated with proper energy at the The Seditious Meetings Bill was introduced yesterday evening into the House of Lords, and there read • first time. It was arranged, that the Bill shoald be read a second time on Thursday. but that the debate upon the principle of the mea sure should not take place until the qatittou was proposed for resolving the House into a Committee.. The several enactments of the Bill will be dis cussed on the Monday following, so that the third reading may be had on Tuesday, and the BiU be passed into a law o►► Wednesday. The Marquii of LAMSDOWN remarked, that if the circumstances of the couutry required the adoption of such a mea sure, the sooner it was passed the better. The proceedings in the House of Commons last night were singularly important, and will, we con• fidently trust, be sn effective mesas of removing much of that irritable feeling which now unhappily interrupts the harmony and threatens to compromise the tranquillity of this country. Lord Joni Ros. SELL, in a speech replete with constitutional lao►u- ing and deep research. and bearing the dimity: Oohing marks of an aeote rad resealing thin/. submitted to the Hoaw his prisised ~i