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• .. _ I. (SWERML PARLIAMENT. • • MOVSE OF LORCS, TatsoAT, Ma t• 10. The farther prieeedinp in the Ball bu ry Parer were rnot . - slitnytt till Thursday. • The Excise Itoli.lierie Bill, the Smug:ling Prevention WI, 410 the Lanil-Tax Redemption Bill, acre read the third time and pulsed. rnob the third reading cl the Printers' and i'utilibliers' In ' ' trinltt Bill, The Mite sr NUlliroLu inimical its *attire nail tend-la-v. • flee laino Cnascrt.r.taa sa•istly inforim-d the Noble nuke, the purport of the Bill a ae to bides aaaa ia j tbom pemons • :or any past imperfect or rage, sicscriptien ul glare of rm.i drare. . . The Doke of Noittrohu expressed his •p Linn, that the Bill. to which this Oderrea, aros Miele iiiiiaieal to •he liberty tithe Pun. The DA! oto rm. the third titre anti pesow , l. marling Is I ilte Scaled 11, ti 4 Sot dirk' Bill, alter rew vAtimis t- oitt the Doke of NOR roks: mod the . lEsi I ,as tte tt :tam ry, pentroutd till to-toorivr• • • • • 1 tr.litia Ctwuplaaxt Lilt, and the Luau bill. p.:ft • • .1, riligusitttts, mid *sly repueirit wULudt soy of the Vvt%11..! Bridsv Xiil woo brought up, htrfon Sir :Nines ai shim. earl *tin' Menthe,* of Coinntutis, bra-.:lit op the Ship ()where the Irish Malt Duty fI.J, the Inidt Itero:itis.an., Bill. the Luna Claire.* Did. on twereal private kW*, which wzrr lawl o• the . iikerweiralt read the tit«. time. 1 . 1. in the moth.* of the Earl of Lt viltienot., the seeend I . i.adiag of the L , t.m Charge IHII, and the el111111•1(0•1:Ilt of line . elute of (since* were urdtred b.f. Thstrodir es - Tbe Far: a/ I.lvt, root. pee- , wiled a :114w. :tee from His .y, it:glee to the !..i rum (lllZystitu ~Jer 1..01. per trbith la lie.tabeu Wad conaider.itientat Thetrillay. . -....... MR. CRARMK.I.Y. Vie Earl of SurtoL, have guilia:al be should oropoor mafioso relative to Xs. fhannilk, c,14 'fuesdl at. • This motion would go to tbefre‘ottioa of hlsrecessiog :Say fkw- _ . - - - . • rir.deatent froor lair tiovea 4tereilt, ss/A (lee' 4 traitor, to which be Lao a:ltrlt I ad a :tlittSCr 1:i, . ..../114011111/41. 110014 E OF COllitf►\S. Mr. is remt.t. promoted a Petition firm pi-rsnie. cont . . nei • is the Kings Bench Prison for debtseweethiest !tee rum . 1,5001, praying relief a-Ordered to lie nu the Ta'r'e.. lbw RN fur providiol suitable itecommadotiae 4, Midges impost their Cireuits to Fame mos /rad c second time. Ott the motion of Mr Rti et novas; the fdanse wept ieto a Committee ou the inadsor turret 1301.—Tiie K.-post mass ordered to be received tu-morn's. The Ship Owireva' Bill ores read a third time.• Oa the gumption that the Bill .l pass, Mr. DAV:kit (Many pro. to two awmailments, which stet.: agres:d to, sad the Bill p Mr. liaises, i on the Naval Asylum, presented 'certain emiont it, puissant to order of the Morse, which were order ed les the pri. : l. Mr levet s presented an aeconnt of the Imports sad Ex ports for 11,, y. at, and several other papers, eonweeter! with t'ir Imports mai Exports, which mere ordered to las um the'l'els:e. !Tr I'ltt:•l,,t!T raisT gavmantice of a motion for papers re lative to the llrisele of ludeK for Twesslai neat. litr Johoson presented ceetain papers from the hit f crefloy'reOelre so Irelased.e.earalered to he on tier Table. .4 l'esemas firma (iree.tei if a Hospital preseated teveral at oemrta front that I isatitatkrowe•Ordei tit to he,da the Table. Mr. Al.k.ma.. Cueing - . !stemmed a Petition tiros! the PIG ID- Imkerlieet, and Prime:es of Ids ?don, petlitlf relief from the peoal maettneats, is remain 'eines, of the Statute of the :tutu of ilia preretea Majesty. Vpois the :natioit of 'lr. Donates, the Order if the Day for going wt. a Committee: on the 'rich Militia Ball, eels postponer ,to 14mrselii) nest. MC 116.1114 Illorttctami pros-v.4lw to innate ab Nerve:H..l. opos a report he had it.anl. the tolsoishot al a system • i !mho of ineurpto a:put the gretreelier tmaspmaries of the satire troops limo barrelling", ander the command of Bridals oif errs is His Maje...y's a 1 - art', when he was re by the '•r; Alta, MOS. by the rain art the House, he should t (what to 4al' eiteetotiths or' the subject Ire wisiseei to be informed of. He mom daily dashed to be he. f o mei. was ihr facts° Mr DUltnat, In reply, said, there hail bet ro official Cerurn•amtunteou nettle as vet, but he had reason to believe am la a taramo e has: hemeaaderete4. raga the lawless faegolee tate the Order of time Pay. for 111.; wow) feadkw of the Bill for the Relief of inetrivernt 'Debtors, Sir Titus. Trento begged to cal: the at. tent...a m . the Ilionsetu the erase of rattans V cheats, which he consCeted :et a scar great hardship. He shoaled toilium, the Online .t ot whose delete, by esereding Means. to a bich Isisolcest Ilitle were alwa• ..ffrelmally,excluded them . from tie:hew at of theta ; list thee roe Rosin{ thieve to Mi. prisumueut for life. floa hr m imed up o n a, a peva. ay U 1141104/ l earn e d It o therefor, you:posed introdocal a I lasiee auto toe hill in the coin - settee, uliowiug tie benef.4 he hill to emit &Mem, velum, eletits vlid Out emend , as sleissol have beet: reopri.on..l fur the space of tier: Fees's, noun t all odic& s. 'those debt. r . *eettl. - r1 Slat should have been Onions :need far tea lean. tic also eadv.vtesi to the (MC preach as we're inoprioneival at the emit of the Crown, sad who were asaosa those atteepted from the benefits of these .4eta......thhuagh such mete geeendly fumed to he frarelofent &Mom, upon the retest nasxine, that there is nu harm ill cheating Om paltte, vet 441 they did nut tomtit trerpetaal imprisonment; he tbcrefore 'remount-meted these I, the torne•eletatiou of Ho M t.estS ' s Ili • nettes, who he thoogot might par. an Art of Grist e io their favour, which would be as to :item an I nude: at byd oleo ruler. tabled a wish to extend the lwas•tit ..1 the bee ie-e a lames to Ireland ; hut 1111 11 iuyairl Ise liciierrol there MerV kw, if any, In n • dila, 5O take a,:earite•re reflhe•ts iu tied rollillee. Mr. l'car re a:. stated, that there already eis.sted rack reeidations rearetiste Poo Corms Ih4nors, as remit-viol au; provision in the' Bill opus that anbiert annrr, sago 'I he Bill sat the,. scasi a trr . .l it men ardemesi to be co.nrniited • A '.lleissagefeont tie nelti ...Mei the Ho.sise, their i „ sdships lend agrecal to the Aft. •411 TM& fill, the Nang- PriVretl4o,l Bill, the !"...ters' lu.msue wii , tire Bastardy Bill, and emend private Ltilla, n.thuist any untried. met. Mr. 3•• W LICIFinr stateel to the lions., he held in his baud a Petition (non 1!3 I lilkerp tend Puii:icaus the rowdies of Kent a iJ :Mews, praying relief against the ti Hole:ups titey labs.ss, den ter lay the (sot inued aid t sets - -c• reellsetiagot suiehers ;epos then.. Ile had io a.. earls. r •iuet of l ii w Passions hrucido the tnatler wirier the • : 1.11i041 01 the Finites . , _nod he lsid then le ern ~g i+en td. ...rat3.ld, that a r e medy to the vd riss.autsuaimit halm opine import , at itie %Car 1 tffire, Ise w ....er e , an coo, this ro veep laid been t elero for that perimte. lie therefore ileonalat toe limier m.o. hernial ID 01 , 07 a rear. sly to a pressure that wee sus. vet. I e mut perhylly (it. Mr. Fr cI.F4 strongly re. mann snivel ton iateeidion of noose pi.....rarl•fOr that few per. . ...IV! Stift c't till at WA it—. The . 1 04 romplo'rut feriae tit' suede, arose oat (If the &minter.... o! WWI I.n. 4c 1mr.i,4.9 91. trwPo Iltruoth Hods, coualie a far foists movice, lance ahirb steps hero taken to lighten see pr.sann•, by varying its.. route, a' ioorde as puesilde •at prs•ernt was in the costenophilmis of Ow rossesimadr; iii-Coli•f to - ri • lit certain rernlntique, birls lie trustee! would be Cutout e . eahy Satisfactory to the pubtfe sad the siddiers." Sir Euw tr:t K. s•ri• ~t. on.l • that as velof iris ie. tended, he Afraid lint rusk, - h.• subject, but !'r ••••.!.1 wit help am mg, :oat iser4ses t'e peisp eig,N•rf to pp t .:.se4 an the Itiokezrre of . lie there( sec bowel same. 1414 would be speedily •. heir iroef. • Mr. Cala R Lre tin ; • - • • ;core V. the re. istrant of thew Iterdrlti.. ...re _tem, to the mnatiorr..rcrse • aaJorrinddition.el,wei :tv I ius an laitkreptiriA was Ms pu3sibie fur any mast afillierti iv. • The Scram Aalr of W•tt emplaiele.l Ihe has dtlsip out. ed in the EU! t f lrr of tr• at the win* time ploag the same bar, mid fur that a r..or•dy had helm sup - c . 1• ._ kt•V'. died ; but where a great number or trolgis were qaarteresl, the theme y that trus consequently spent, went grainy to leaven the fir Twomas TURTON, ou gth e contraty, Osongbt thin %here there. woe Ilseracks the evil was greater, as the Officers always messed its them, and consequently what they spent did not nearly cotnpensata for the hardship of the men being !Aliened. He thought the attention of Ministers should be speedy, before, she approaching calliun net of the Lot•itl Militia, which mould amulet to leer hinsdrtd thou sand mess ; an cad, Itic tlsis,;without sous^ remedy, would he intolerable. _ . The Petition was presented, and ordered 'to lie on 'be table. _ _ Mr. SHAM Le►t:VlM R:premed his satisfsction at hearing that sionwthin: was intruded to be done uu 11w subject i and antler that infisreasion declared he would rot pit ss any tbiug at the present. Ile gave notice, however, that, if necessary, be would resume the business in the twat Si-slim. .1 like l'ctitiots u also presented front Oat lokeepera at O.,khampt+ah,whit%wasnrSevedto lie oil the Sir Timm Tuoro■ expr:iaeci a &tore to be informed whether the Report he li=si beiit! was 'rue, that the Court of Directors of the East India Coastpasy Ind recalled those unfortuoite prrsorewber bad uletansid situations soder the eircoundllnces detailed by the Committee 'Attila Rouse, whether obtained with their knowledge or otherwise, and that without say compensation Mr MILL. replied, that the Court of Merton bad come lea resolutiois arecntling certain of those persona, General CiAlit,.ll It called the attention of the House to a suojer• which hr eolisielervd as requir ing revision and milendment he alluded to the relative adorn, ion of the importaa Nit of foreign and Uritu.h suit into irelauu. By the regulations, as at present sob,.-sing ou thdt subject, the latter cause into the let,ls mattes with a disadvautage, in the mode of -regulating the duty, of at least 30 per cent. ; add to which, file expense of the manatee tun; of the article, sod it made u difference lietwren that. cal the foreign es. bay salt, in the Irnih tuav ket, of 60or 70 per ei.i.t. iu favour of the litter.— Bs ilia** preference was•given in this article to every Miter country', but this is rootrary to the very trims of the articles of union. In answer to this it ‘. is .itai, that the hay salt was essentially neat*. i..ery to Irelaud, for the purposes of her provision '•whe : hut he hid nut the least doubt, but that the Itritisti salt would 1,4; h.und equal in rvery to the foreign. Ali that was asked was, that .the two articles might lie put on au equality, and then he was sure the British ash . 0 0,41 ultimately glint the preference. H e cep. elleted with iiiori , l4. " Tliattlic !louse .lo to-nsor row resolve itself into a Committee, to take into couisi,lerolisia the duties on salt imported into Ire land." Mr. FOSTF.It espleinett Cie meson of the differ vice in the mode of estimating Use duty heteceii British and bay or foreign salt ; the former was produced by the operation of the, the latter lky that of t'..e can sink ; and therefore the see • g in equality of eright, as etiljet.t to the Paine dolt, einomerei, : tmtting Slim one kvt 1, ou account of tlie difference in the dross contained is the bay salt.— Beside*, the two articles could never in fact come into cotapttition; because the -buy suit, and not the Britisli.;was used ill the curing. of provisions.-- Undei these circumstances, when the importance of tire provision trade of Irrlatid was taken tote con %Wet-amiss, he etsticeivol the Moose coact not think it wise, at the close of a Session, to enter into such • tequiry ; but at the sante time he declared, that if gentlemen thought it worth their while to pursue • t i eva ls isisesadmi would turn out to be an useless attempt, he was reedy in the next Seesious to g o into the subject. Mr. illlentsson deprecated any alteration in the pre,. nt sti stein, which might lead to the tempt ation of trying experiments, by the cheapness of the purchase s with the British salt, is the,cor io B.f previsions, which must utteyly fail, as two thirds of British Salt moat have sweat leatit of bay salt, its the curtai l ; of provisions. Besides, he time:Jot it unfair to make the present tawnir, without doe notice to gismo intereete dw flit...natter, to look after their olio interests. ale bad uo objec tion to the matter being taken up in the coarse eel if., neat session, _ _ Mr. JALtilllitillteed tiw 11:06011 to be merely for the puipuse of putting the two articles of fish and Foreign Salt upon au equAlty, in order to give an opportunity of a fair trial between them, and as such he could ..ee no objectilm to is. He be heved that, chemically considered, there would be fumel to be no essential ditfrrerce heiween them ; they were both of them producrd by lire. the 'one ar. fibrin!, the ether natural, nntl therefore inure slowly. With respect to delay, for the purpose of obtaining information, we wanted none from Ireland on the sulijwct, MY we had chyinists of nor crest to apply tn, or we mi ' l,t go to the Ited House at Deptford, where thehuainess of curing provisions a as carried on extensively, and he con.idered the preference given to the the Foreign SAL in !Ireland, to he merely the effect of prejudice. • Mr. FOSTER explained : The bay ..it was a or tural salt, produced iu the bays of Spain and Portisgul, and thence so sidled; cud hie was sure the people or Ireland, concerned in the provision trade. would out choose fiout experience to use Guy sub stitute iu lieu or it. Mr. l'emcvat. considereit,the proposition made of going into the inquiry in the item Sessions, au stem' of the close of .the present, extremely fair.— H. did not think it fair to the people's( lrulniid, to iv thm information mi r lht be haul Isere on the sub ject ; they no doubt would like to state tliek opi• for themselves. , Sir JoHli NewPORT eontroJeti fhat the duty as. it now stood was already on a perfect equality be tween abe British and foreign salt ; the difference being only nfli was necessary to Inert the differ ence beta, tin the' two articlea in point ef purity. With respvet to the totertion, that er.inight obtains all the information .se wanted on the snivel here, hr reti.; lord it int ; . .sir to take any steps behind the of those it, ireta,td, intenrsted in the proei -1 lost , .‘ er. be ilechered his readiness I. i mp tht: ;winery neat Sessions, protestiut bow. err?, agitentt being ler-toost to admit there m isled 'Heti/Wit, whatever between the two srlteho., wit', respect to the elite: of tlw duty. Gr.teriat Itt.t.TO Si contended for the necessity of making ay at! rrat ion in the present duties, forth. purpose nF &fp..dieing liar.t n articles. . . Gen«ral ilecLovtl, hr woulll way to whet miqw;tred to tw the p.o.e. of thr, I Immo-, br withdrawing notion for the present ; dr pinrin?, lii. intention of renewing it in the next ora tion or Pnrhainetd. Thy tuut.uu niut at nuttily withdrawn. M Ilill 1 , 1.111. K Al !Vas 1N lit Warp_ - Sir 30101 NEWPOCT, pursuant to tuniec,rese to make his promised motion, relative to the.appoiet inent of a person (Mr. Beauchamp to a situ. anion in the Excise in Irelasad, in direct . violieiou of a statute of regulation made for that country. and which was expressly intended to guard monist the frauds committed on the revenue u: that coon try. If this should appear to he the ease, and that the person alluded to had tactually incurred his dis missal from the situation he had formerly held iu the Excise, under the very letter and spirit of that Act, instead of the promotiois lie had met with,i what terms wets too strong to reprobate such a conduct in those concerned in such aproceeding ? How did the present case stand ? Br a statute made in 1806, it was enacted, that soy officer no the Customs or Excise iu Ireland, convicted of taking monerin the execution of his office, should be incapable of holding any place under the govern ment. By a former statute on the wane subject, it was decla,est, that such persons, taking a bribe for neglecting their duty, should be incapable of holding any employment ; but it das found they • get out of tits statute by asserting they took money for performing their duty ; To remedy which the former statute was enacted. It appeared from the report of the Commissiouers appointed to inquire into Omen in she i. ustoms anti Exei,e in Ireland, that in Septcsii:wr, Mb, they called before them a pers o n a .he minie of Beauchamp Hill. Upon his examination he soiled, be lend been a Surveyor for 4years, and that he acs in the haabat of taking a present of 90 guineas a -vest, Sewn every OM t OM:lilted within his %silk. It also sp re.reil, by his elaininatiosi, that he justified tins p.sctiee on the ground of precedent and notoriety, and also 0001 necessity, owing to the itiadequits•y of his salary to his support. This might be ;so. witted us some excuse in his favour, but still the law was precise in marking the of truce, mid - point. Mg out the penalty ; cud though the offence might be overlooked on the plea of oecessity, yet he conceived that should haye been the extent of the mercy diesel) him. Notwithstanding, how evcr, list was found, in tile month of March, 1808, promoted to the office of Inspector-General of Excise; that is, to oversee that others did not abuse that trust of which he himself had been convicted; and this, conjointly with saintlier person, in the room of two, who were removed oat charges of mis conduct, which they had denied, and upon which they had demauded a trial. Ile concluded with 11110/111g: " That it appears by the 48th of the ging, e. Ite, that any person or persons, hohliug any office or situation in the Cus toms or Excise is Ireland, taking say 'wine) in the raven. soon of Out: Aire, shall toe guilty of a misdemeanour, sod he scattered theret,, incapable of holding any p!acr of trust or iItIONITIeId under the Crown. That at Lifp(111.11 that Beauchamp Hill, on Ina ricouitiatiou before di:• voltam:o - appototed to inquire into abtoirs iu the Costume and Larne iii Ir lend , was guilt) of rewriting motel as a star cern of E.iteise that it appears that the said Beauchamp 11111, being au convicted, was Latta itlivtanding promoted too the o ffi ce of Inspector-General of Excise, in violation of the statute of the 46th of Ilse King, C. Mi." Mr. Fosrea bege.wl to state how the fart of this case stood. It was well knOwn that it had been the constant practice of' Excise Officers in Ireland. to take money in addition to their salaries. This woe felt to be an evil b atid en inquiry was ordered to be irstitisted for the purpose of applying a reine sly. Upon that occasion thirty Excise Officers find hero examined before the Comusissisniers ; and of tlic-e, twenty-seven had fairly owned that they were in the habits of receiving presents, and they justi fied their iloilisrsu, upon the plea of previous prac tices being known to their superiors, and the small ness of the salaries upon which they depended for their support. This fact then was known, not by the conviction of the parties, but by their volun tary confession. and a prosecution of them, under sorb eircureitinices, would have brio consi dared tilicandfd. He owned it would be equally hard to punish cite individual, as diffitult to dismiss sill, if all were equally guilty. On the contrary, it was considered as the must pru dent way to raise their salaries, thereby taking away the necessity of cositinuing their former prac tices. , With respect to Messrs. Fanniug and•Eitz shrianons, who were dismal:wed from the situation of Inspector-General, it was &mistake that they had been dismissed under a charge of similar practices; the offence for whirls they had been dismissed was, for pairing tampered with other officers, not to give evidence before the Commissioners of Inquiry.-- He did not her any way of disposing of this matter so proper ill. l t y moving the previona question. Mr. Hurcnixsim declared, that if the present motion was refused, it would appear as if that House was determined on supporting every species of corruption, and tiying that noise but dishonest men were to be found capable of filling the offices of government. lf it appeared that all en , ployed its that department were dishonest, then all should be dismissed ; but lie denied this to be the fact. and to say as. was a glows and groundless libel on his country. He called on Ministers to sloe wise were at the head of toe revenue in Irelosid, who were stated to know of such corrupt practices. and who did not at the s:une time punish them ? its he con hislered such rather deserving of paiiiilinient than other inferior officers. He had also beard that the geistlemeu dismissed had demanded a trial, and been refused; and that they had been !accused by a man who hail been convicted of perjury. lie was happy to hear, cud be cosignituletest Ministers and that cusintry on it, that they had advised His Ma ititr to withdrew the commiftion granted to a •de Lard (ellsidisig, we presume, to the case of Lerd BurghenJa) ; and he strongly advised them to follow that example, by recalling the grant to Mr.' Hill; fearing, if they did not, they would shake. the regards of the people of Ireland to the constitution. Mr. FOSTER explained. He said there were very few of the excise officers who were free front cor ruption, mid that this was known to their superior officers. Mr. C1101:VR CXCIINPd flit! necessity that had ex isted fel the officers taking presents, (ruin the isi adequacy of their salaries to their support. • Those sollitsics had suffered no altersition from tlif time they were last fixed, in the days of Charles the Second, to January last-401. a-year for a thinler, and that of Is surveyor 651. a-year; and when their whole time was exclusively occupied in the duties of their ink's.. An tinonnrable Gentlemen opitomite hail %aid, these thing.. ought to have been wade known; he (Onglit to have known Ilonsoralile Frieed of tail, (Lord Amsted.") knew it well, and knew the only way to 'muesli the frauds was, by Merest ing the salaries; die loch reeonimeaded it, and by degrees tt bees' effeile4l. Lord A title...ley had acthotised hnu to way, lib hos the carne of ll le pro moting of Beam:hemp one 4,f the best offi cers in trete:el; he took iit, snore than others del, and did hisstute, eilitelt_the-e did wit. Ilethotiotit there must le; MOW secret rerosii he this ides r was more ohnnxiousthais coy other, by bring singled out ; the papers nrigitially moved lie were to ef t.di guilt to Mr. Hill, m stir.presoiug arcouut of it cottaiderable quiiiititv nil tualt at Rory rea ; the pekes were produced, and it nopesserd he did nut belong to the &stmt. Ibis personal sespret for t h e R ig h t ib is . Baronet, out his kiwaledge of his private clianiemr, prevented him from rutertaititug act idea, that that Right Him. Bart, had singled out 31r. 11111, .hut he believed that his information must hales came from sotue qUittler ill W/6: l lhe been miter in Isis •ity. litet this Man had biol, marked from malieiotse:aintives, he leul ins don!,.; turd cousidered, if the House eeril to bizree to en, motiou, it bottle. lie a case oldie es isciest uud greatest hardship. ?.Jr. Hurcuts sus said, if the ll,m. Member meant to say, or any other renew, t h an his Noble Rada•;on, at the head of the Excise, lied been the rummer of *inch vcassahiluus trouser:time., lie should reply that they wire direct and semirlalouss and would be willing to support his words 111 say enanocr or its tiny place. Mr. carmen, in reply, aid. that the known iii tegrity, eiqwrience, sod assiduity of the Noble laVrd, tendered him shove city such imputation. Mr. Forma end Mr. Iltrreutrision explaititd. Mr. Kira* MOORS thought the subject too se rious to be passed over lightly by the preemie' quell. lion. It was not II persoutii question ; rt was sae ot algeneral nature, and of all the corruptions he bad ever heard of, this was the must pest. 'Hie Honourable Cent, then read several- extracts fmni the report of t h e Commissioners on the Exciiie and Customs of Ireland, which states, deo in one iu •stauce. where 17,1141. was collected, the duties uninuoted to 141,0001. morn ; and dust in the case of private distilleries alone, the amount of fraud, in one year, was 856,004,1. and this monstrous fraud was through the corrupt connivance of officers ; then the distillers bribed the officers, and it ap peared in one year the revenue ass robiseill of 1.712.0001. He then vied he 'knew iiethieg of Rowland Hill—(a tente/4)-.4leaneharup Hill ; but thought it necessary tow this witch,' us it might direct the Right Hon. Gent. (31r. Foster) in his rasa Distillery Bill t Inas 1111 l ch us the irauds com mitted upon the revenue of Ireland, slimed she had riches enough, were they properly sought for ; and from the liberal awl uffectionate character of the Irish, who were attached to the Constitution in every way, he thought the Right I:on. Gentle man might obtain double the sum of that upon whirl' he reckoned by his new measure. Mr. Dunne% said, that what was dime could tad be undone, but where frauds had been committed, it was wise to prevent their recurrence. The qiees. tiou came to this, whether the svheie of the offi cers, all having been guilty alike, sisould have been dismissed ? and nest, whether Mr. Hill should huve been appointed the snitemeat of his Right Den. Friend, he was selected- as being the mast active and faithful of them all. Sir SAMUEL 1t03111,1.Y the question i tself was comparatively small; when compired with am garments which seat to connive at frauils practised on the revenue. An Hon. lieut. (Mr. Croker) had spoken of abstract ideas, with a particular de gree of autLority ; and that as the once,* could not live without meat or drink. or upon 401. •-year. they should not be condemned fur accepting fees. Such en argument would not hold good at the Old Bailey, even if a person laid less then that in come, and had thought prober by other tames to obtain nitat and drink. The Hon. Geist, spoke of these mess as if they were pressed into • service where they could tiot get so honest livelihood, hot that was lust the case. Mr. Hill could not he NOR to have been particularly selected, for although there were a greet many other of who were guilty of similar practices, he was the only guiity one who had been promoted ; or if there is ere others, he was sure the Hight Hots. Baronet, if lie kuew diem, would have been equally anxious to point them out. He concluded with declaring the motion had his most cordial support. Mr. Citoexa, in explanation, said he had used tite arguments urged by the Commissioners. Mr. PERCEVAL said, if any one maintained each a principle, that Officers u ere not amenable to the laws for fraud, because their *Aeries were small. nothing could he inure preposterous. No man doubted that t h e Custom% and Excise had been scenes of the greatest possible abuse. An Act passed in July, teuti, which subjected Aimee to in capacitation. who should subserviently r %mire fees; this transaction took place lir Septentlier, and haul Cie principle of the Ilon.tlvitt. bees acted upon, they should nli have heel. dismissed, for tomtit:it ing the practice two r gooks after the passing of the Act, which would have deprived the coutory of one year's revenue. The whole question, as her Hon. Friend hail stated, was, whether they ell Id all have been dismissed, and whether Mr; Hill should hair been articled ? The act stipulates. that, on cmiviction, (Minors Amid be inferior , - Wed ; lie hail not beet lewdly cosoriciet4. wore than Mealier% and therefore he swab' tiut br pur ticulatlycielet Mr. Ilottiefl said, no rule could be blinded by this argument. or the /tight H 0... ec:utletuart.— Feea and bribes were illegal ; Nlr. 11. Hell took bribes fur mainiving at fratashrupois the n veneer The attempt to Ilefeari this case war one of tb•: most unjustifiable that overtook pface it. any iid minirtration, in the cry plenitude of pone,. Sir Joao ticweonT frit, that the rtertame Net tip could eat be anaintsinci. Ar to vikat hail been said about Hnereit, he rapperi.nt file fine. (ion- Ovum, (.11r. Center) 11411'434 limleed at AI ;mrt of the impure produced. Thine pairfrs showed. tti.:t Mr. 13. Hill was stiivrl,iir at Etztverea, that he left it fora short time, rood soother was anemia , - etl ; it Iklieltlley of i 7041. appeninfil, bat lint le. told to whom ti m ei.tit kitty watt lee attributed. wilwilter to %lr. 11.!1 or tan %sleet-A..lyr. beettuae the mailt-book butt 11, '11" Aron eatr salty with, and therefor, Lie hal a tt6h: to pre- ~~ srJ MIIMINIMIII