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il ITT J 7r•fif ~~ n Y~`~J 1 e .. t f;v 7r ... a, --, 15 1 ).40 71 71 1 NUMBER 4 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. MUSE OF Loßns—Fetomr , Jima rlcard Counsel upon the Aylesbury Bal.—Ad- F nuaeil till Mondasy. HOUSE OF CoNIMONS Sir It Ft min a presented a Petition from the p,.l,tors in Carlisle jail; Mr. EYRE presented a bimilar one from the Debt 3a the jail cf Notting. ham; and 111 r. - presented another from the 9e!r.ors in the jail of Beverley, Yorkshire, pt a) ing fir relief; all which, were ordered to he on the table. o t;ie Motion of Mr. Deny, it was ordered that t h e c :veral petitioners against the Abolition of the Slave 1 rade be heard by themselves or counsel, on the report of the Bill. Mr. H. ADDINGTON observed, that on ac count of some irregularity in the Cotton Manufac turers Bill, which by the omission of a single word, made a material alteration in the sense ; he wished the present Bill withdrawn, and a new Bill to be intro duced in its place; the Order for the setond reading e' the Bill was 'then, upon r.totion, discharged, and the Rill being withdrawn, a new Bill was brought up, read a first time, and ordered to be wilted, and to be read a seLond time on Monday nest. Mr. Coict moved the Order of the Day for the farther consideration of the Report of the Corn C,mmittee—it was then, upon Motion, ordere.l, that the said Report be re-committed on Monday next. __ _ Mr. Fivzoraxt D brought up a Bill for regulating the Ekaion of Members to serve in Padiament fot that part of the United Kingdom called Ireland— wi,ich w.ts read a fit st time, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday se'anight. On the Motion of Mr. I-1. Laic EL LES, the second reading of the Yorkshire Clothiers' Bill was deferred till Monday next. Mr. Ussr moved, 1 ' that there be laid before the House an account of all West-India produce im ported from the Ist January, I tiO3, to the latest pe riod when such account could he made up, distin guishing the different kinds of produce. together with the amount the:mt . , and the duties payable daimon." Ordered. The Committees of Supply and of Wars and Means weir deferred till Monday next. Mr. Co Aar ES Dina , Ae moved, that the order of the day for the commitment of the Misde mtant:ut Bill be read. He cher moved that the said order be discharged, and that the Bill be com mitted on Monday next; which, after a few obcerva. tion• N3:nn Mr. Bvat.AND, Sir W. ELIORD, and Sir IL BOLTON, was agreed to. On the motion of Sir Lawateca PAR.. 1110 as, it was ordered that the several ripen pre sented to the House on the 7th of May last, re weing the Slave Trade, be rioted for the use of die Mcoieers. Sr W. ELFORD said, he rose for the purpose of erplaining the reason for withdrawing the notice of the Motion which he had intended to have brought forward respelling the conduit of the late Board of Admirthy towards certain individuals holding offi ces in the Dock Yards. There were certain circum stances ift the conduit of the late Board towards rim individuals of this description, which he consi dered to be unjust and oppressive. His intention, in bringing forward a Motion on the solicit, was with two views; first, that justice might be done to these injured individuals ; and also, that, if judged necessary, an address might be proposed to His Majesty, to remove those who had committed such an act of injustice ; but one of these two individuals having since then obtained another simation,aoal the other being in expetlation of one, and that Board of Admiralty being new no more. on these grounds he wished to withdraw the notice be had given of bringing forward any Motion on the subjeih trusting that the present Board of Ad miralty would do ample justice to the individuals to whom he had alluded—but if he shunld be disap pointed in this expiftation, he still reserved to him self the liberty of renewing the motion, which he Lad formerly intended to bring forward. Mr. Ftrzosa atm moved for the produaion of several documents, containing the names or the se veral Commissioners appointed by anal% of the Par liament of Ireland, for granting compensation to certain corpora:. bodies, fur losses sustained by them m comeque :ce of the Union of the two kingdoms, as well as to those individuals whose offices In Ire land had been discontinued since the Union, toge ther with an account of the expences attending the execution of the said all. Sa JOHN Wlt 10 VTESLEY (alluding to the v• ' ant state of the Treasury lienehf said he • , :ght it would be more candid if the motion of i ion. Get itkman were defil-reii, itt least till some ..mber of the Executive C.,venlment, and eon with the affairs of Irel u4l, should Appear in plAce, wan might give his opinion of the pro iety or otherwise, of acceding to the motion. FOSTER apprarei, and said the Hor.. Gen ' • •,.in had previously sitews the motion to him, to .it he thought no objection ccuij be reasonably The SPEAKER gave it as his opinion, that it ward be snore consistent with general wage and the courtesy of Members, if the lion. (Sent eman tostenteJ himself at present with merely giving rd•tice of his intention of brining forward s+ eh • . 0 6(01. or, at least, tiil some Member of the E:rcu e Government should be found in his place, nho ?In espreas his intention of acceding to it, or ~i.i:'ll~ ISP. Colonel C.kt.Cit AFT remarked, that it was nan- Pnt Eve c'clack ; that hi% I kn. 1 rier.d haJ sraiteJ :••in long, but as in Member of the Etecwive :••••••crnroesst had appeased In Lis place, Le 0.1•••;ght • • • I:on. M,rfite•r was just;fieU in b;4; 6 iag 12rward • E.,tion I:)..ir •!• 1:1-170ER %LI) said, he was cor.!znred tr • h.• for die jr;:*ert... give iSrlitob notice, that on Monday neat, he should move for the produ&ion of the paper► to which he had re ferred. The Archbishop of Publin's Palace Bill was read a third titre and passed. Mr. ROSE said, that in consequence of what had passed, o* a former evening, respeding Memiscrs ap pointed to certain offices in the Duchies of Corn wall and Lancaster, whether it were neces-ary that they should vacate their seats and be re-elefted, he had been looking into the Journals, where he found several instances, which bore him out in thinking that the A.c.t of Queen Anne did not apply to such appointments. If no doubt were entertained by any Hon. Gentleman on the %Mica, he should thidk that such Members as held offices in such Duchies, might continue their seats in Parliament with safety to themselves, andwithout any need to be re-eleißed. Mr. BANKES said, that for aught he knew to the contrary, the Member to whom the Hor. Gen tlefnan alluded, might continue to hold bis seat, without any itisslation of she Aa of Quemt Anne; but still he thought it better that the Hon. Meru be.r should bring forward a Motion on the subjea, which would aff.ird the House an opportunity of con sidering it, rather than that the present silence of „the House should be cor.stnied into, an approbation of the lion. Member alluded tn, retain i ng his seat untie the circumstances mcnti sned. Mr. ROSE, then gave notice, that on Monday neat he should bring forward a Motion oil the sub. jeil. He added, that the Hon- Member, whose si. tuation hr referred to, held the Office of Judge of the Common Pleas for Cie Duchy of Lancaster. SATURDAY,-JUNE 9, 1804. IRISH UNFN MANUFACTuRK It being considerably past five o'clock, and the Trsasnry Bench still continuing vacant, business ►c a, for some takse suspended. till Air. Foam appeared; when 'Mr. FULLER rose, and said he wished to know whether it was not ruw time to begin the Irish business ? Mr. FOSTER said, he had no ohjeaion, although he wished first to see the seats around him liter filled (Mr. Fitt and other Ministers beginning to come in) : Mr. Foster then moved the Orer of the DaT for a Committee of the whole House to con sider of the Petition from the Linen blanufaiffurers of Ireland. The [louse resplvcd itself into a Com mittee accordingly, Mr. Ar.ex Nut ain the Chair. Mr. FOS TER moved, that the At passed on the sufjea should Ie referred to t. . e said Committee. He then *Mtn ved, that the oh3tra of the. Petitiiins of the Linen Nianufailarers was to be relieved from the duties of one .tod a half per cent. and four per cent. imposed on the exportation of the linen ma nut:talus of Ireland. He was sorry to obse:ve, that this manufaanie was greatly on the decline, which rendered it of importance to relieve it from the recent duties imposed en its exportation. On an average of the two r.:ars preceding the two Lot, it tad Wien) to 32 Trillium, and i're' twu last 'r.rs to 36 millions. There appeared on the face of it au inconsistency, firstto give bounties to the mannfac Lure, and then to lay a duty n the exportation of the said article ; thus counteraaing the bounty granted . In the present state of the trade, it would be pie : feerble rather to grant new bounties than to impose new duties. He did not wish to shew any partiality on the occasion, lon considered the British Linen Manufaaurers to be entitled to the same indulgence as what was proposed to be granted to the Irish, for the experts of the Linen blanutataure of Great Bii tain had suffered in proportion to that of Ireland.— He should theretnee move, „ 'That leave be given to bring in a Bill, to repeal the duties Lid upon exports of all the Linen manufactured in every part of the United Kingdom." Sir RICHARD PEELE remarked on the int portanct of the Cotton, as well as of the Linen Ma nufaraure—the former, therefore, was entitled to have every indulgence shcwn to it, as well as the former. Sir JOHN NICHOLL thought, that the same indulgence could no: rpm be 7 equired on the part of the Cotton nulufafturcr, unless it could be game. that a similar dcci ease had «turned in the exporta tion of that ariick, as had keen the case with regard to the born Manuttaure. Sir K. Pr Lt. s exp.ained, by 'lying, that he was far from discouraging ,he press:tit iipplicati in. nor did he mean to ask for a similar indolence to the Cot ton Mai:daft ui er • a: pre,ent. Mr. FOST omereed, that it was by nn means his wish to rul any other mix between the two Ma nufatturers, Clan the race of liberty. Mr. DAWbON spoke al favour of the Motion. Mr. HORN ,BY rtert, than the duties on the exportation ot the Irish L;neas had not taken place till similar owl were 31:3 on the expo: tation of in .h Linens ; and, in continuity to the same pri ciple, which imposed the duties on the two countries, it was now priii-sed to take inem off on exporta tion. The pree•llit, was, theret:ne, to be consiii.7:scl as mere y a questions betwixt-the two countries on the one hand, and all foreign counties i.n the other ; and he was of opinion, thatit anuld be for the mu tual advantage of Great Britain and It , land, to adopt rise measure now under sonsiderat .s,s. He was sure that the North of Ind sod wauld be parti cularly grateful to the House far ach.ptiog it. The question on the ResoLation was ihen pat and car. ei. TL,• lints , e being resumed. and the Resolati reps Ist I. lvave a•., given to ; rin!.: in a BtJ to repeal the duty on the exp‘trt of ail Linen nuuu:attu•asl in any part of Ole o,.ited Kingdt tn. Mr. FULLER said, he ripe for the pnrpose of enquiring, of His Majesty's Nii Ater., wh,•ther they had received copies of any pairs relative to the Treaty proposed between General Dcssalines and Mr. Corber., the British Agent at Jamaica. in tAr as relates to the importation of Negroes tato St. Do mingo ? Mr. PITT—" I am not prepared to give any preci-e ars.vsr ro this Tiestioo ; I believe some civet WI: .silS been made, is couseriutnze of littneral ~l~t~~s -- r -- Dessalines's having expressed a wish. that in ease of any treaty between him and our Government. li berty might be grained of impurting negroes . into that island." Mr. FULLER said that vrasall he wanted to know. GENERAL. DEFENCE RILL. The tiouseibenPiocetisa to ti7eTirder of the Day for the second reading of the General IN.- fence Bili. On the question being put, that this Bill be now read a second time ; Mr. CALCRAFF rose, and said, that since His Majesty's Administration had received an accession of strenkib, from the talents of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite to him (as to the other parts of the new Administration, he did not see that they encreased the confidence of the country), h., expeaed to have found in the new plan, brought forward for the better Defence of the Country, more vigour, and something more likely to meet the present exi gencies, than the plan which was now brought for ward, and proposed fur the adoption of the House Thins: esoniel, fem.:. no part of the pate, any good reason to expel much chance of increasing the dis provable-force of the country, till such time as e. cancies should arise its the Militia, or Ariny of Re serve. Ihe Right Hon. Gentleman looks, it 4 true, to an immediate increase of sixteen thousand men, at the same time that, by giving up the hi4llos, he throws up the chance of procuring the men. The measure now proposed had recourse to the same means for zecruitin3 the army which had for merly been ado,•ted res;.ciing the navy; and which failed in answering the purpose intended. Apin, the manner. in which the Right Hon. Gentlemen ::as proposed to apply these men when raised, is by throwing them into two battalions ; or rather, add ing a battalion composed of these new levies, to a battalion of infantry already formed among the troops of the line. His professed object in this part of the plan is, that these men may be theeebv in duced to enter into the first battalion. But 'how strongly this inducement may be supposed to ope rate, may he easily inferred, when it is considered, that the first • battalion may be in some distant country, whilst the other is necessarily confined at home ; the one, perhaps, in the East Indies, and the other at Guernsey. The Right Hon. Gentleman, in this part of his plan, appears to be too Sanguine, and to calculate too ranch on that sort of kindred feeling, which I.e supposes wiil subsist between the men composing these two battalions. Theo with regard to the Officers composing these two trattalions. those who may bo employed in the most important services in the East Indies, and who happen to survive their brother officer s therein thesameregitnent.migl happen to be superseded by officers residing ia Eng land, and tre.iding over corps which could not have seen any service at all. The men ale expected to be rased for a smaller bounty than has been given for ra•sing men for the Army of Reserve or the Mi litia, and by holding out an inducement to Parish -o:ficers, for raising men, Fiche. by lumens ef w ore. mium (to exceed, in some small degree, the highest bounty), nr by penalty in case of failure. But W the sum be limited to ten guineas, it would then be come a question, whether it would not he better to raise it venerally to that sum, rather than to suf fer the parishes to run the risk of paying the penalty, in case of their not raising the quota of men. This wits then turn out to be a partial mode of raising men in such a proportion as the Hrmse is Fleets to 'spelt. The present measure appeared to him to he scarcely any thing else than a new edition bf the Quota Bill of 1793, and which did not, in falt, raise one tenth part of the number of men expetted ; be sides that of these the worst set of men were pro duced that were ever called into the war; so much so, that it was a question with him whether they were not in a great measure the cause of the calamity that soon after befel our Navy ; at least they were very likely to produce such conduct, for they, were in fad the very scum of the counsel. There were other modes by which it appeared to him that men might more easily be procured. He referred to the means of raising men for a limited time, and he thought that the West India service ought to he made a distinct service. Were this hint followed up, the great impediments to recruiting in the old way would be found to be very much diminished. Upon these and other grounds, on which he should not then dwell, Mr. C...elctaft said be should ope Ise the second reading of the Bill, judging it to be per feetly inadequate to accomplish the purpose which it professed to embrace. _ _ Sir ROBERT BUX fON said, he heartily ape purred of the Rill, and particularly because it so materially relieved the landed interest fr . = the heaviest burden which had been laid upon it. and especially that of itiding men for the Army of He. serve, whilst the 1;01 ent to lay the burden where it natural', ought to be laid, nu the general finances of the country. 1 h., present measura a nrared to bare but littlresemhlance to the 2n inasmuch as the foi.rier rak-s men at the e.rilee of the country, and the latter imposed it on the paridies. Another advantage of this plan was, that of putting a stop to the ballot, which appeared to him to be a mat unjust and unfair way. On thes^ accounts he thought the ptrsent Bill would be better rec.•ived throughout the country, than any former one which had preceded it a for; surely, the difficulties of raising men by ballot, and the hardships attending that mea sure, were such as every Country Geatieman must wish to see annihilated. Not that he saw perfeition io the owl nes of the Rid, as they had been ably traced by the Right lion. Gentleman ; but in the Committee there might be clauses pointed tut, which wou!si be found to require arni.niment ; is t, viewing it as a general measure, it appeared to him that it deserved approhation. Mr. YORKE bean by assuring the 1 - louse, that it was his sincere will to give every pes.ihle sup port to the gewerraucht of the country, in whatever hands it might be Ent at the same time, and consißeia the- declaration, he could r.ot he eepeaed to s.cri.,ce ei, opi.n respeling the hest made of pruvi...l,4 fart the elcte.tes of the Gowan' hit (PEKE SIXPENICE. I In the plan now submitted to the eciesideretion • f the House, there woe ;arts, undoubtedly, to w: eb he was very ready to give his assent, but there w e other parts, which appeared to him faulty anal e - ceptionable, and from which, therefore, he must dis sent. If the system of limited service in the -. regular army could have been rendered praCtical..-j many of the measures to which Parliament I- lately been obliged to have recourse, might he e been dispensed with. Yet, under the present sy•- tem of military service hi this country, whiel , in some respells, was different trap that of the powers of the continent ; he dlillbted whether it woes praCl:cabie to adopt such a system : at the same time he was of opii i• to that if a co- lonial limited service could be established, It ••• _would be serviceable. But till that could be be brought about, and the efTeCt of its opereth n could he seen, it was not possible - fur this country, i any more than for the great military powers on the continent, to place its depeoa nce for the maintenalice cr .increase of its armies Oserele upon voluntary offers of service. Among the gi•cat military powers of Prqpia, Austria, Ru .sia, amt: • France, a conscription otrballot was resorted to, 'ne cause a large military lot ce was necessary fordefitnce. Such measures could not be given up, nor sacrificed _ to, nor could such armies be kept u&by dependis. ! entirely upon the voluntary offers <X service. +re approved, therefore, of the system of our Militia Laws, because it raised a respeaalde tieee without the risk of uncertainty ; and he consicitecil that it would be fiund necessary to have resort to the Lune principle in pnrsuine the leading feature of the present measure, which was that of raising a sort of force holding a medium betwixt e Oct Regular Army and the Militia. The n'sjece tions he felt in his mind to the present Bill might be classed under three heads ;—First, to the amount of this force ; —Secondly, to the mode by which it is proposed to be raised .and, Thirdly, to the time when this measure has been brnught for. ward. Mr. Yorke said, he could nut help observieg, that even by those who had objeCled to the Lite Ms. sisters, it had been allowed, that the nat.% was now in a reasonable degre e o f secu rity; aff that . Parliament might now, with a reasonable degree of tranquillity, consider the adoption of some pei r . a neat system, that might enable this country to mea. tiro such a military establishment ass it ought to uphold in the preeent sweet Europe The present Bill appeared to• proceed upon this ground. Its objet seemed to be to lay the basis of a•ale perms tame measure, on which our military sestem is in future to be establish: J. It was in that poiot ,I view that he thought this Bill might to be exa mined. Now first as to the numbers propesea to be raised. He thought they wete mone y , than could be accomplished, without materially injuring the recruitiog service. It was presosed to reduce the Militia of Great initain are 41,0 wen, amid Alio rworriewentsrt Nillida dertie:' number. To this part of the plan, o r to the entire abolition of the Supplementary Militia. he aid reit objeft ; but it appeared to him that the demands made upon the country by this Bill were greater than it could supply, consistently with the other services due to the Navy and the Marines (the last of these Corps was considerably deficient in num ber, and too important to be dinegardesl). His second objeCtion was to the war by pinch this f tree was proposed to be raised. Tfiis, be coal not help thinking, was extremely ineflicacious, lad, in the same proportion as it was inefficacious, it became nugatory The I ionouroble ;tar met ( Buz. ton) praised the Bill, because it did not inspqap a tax upon the parishes. For his part. the only eGcectous part of the Bill was that ielfch i:n. posed a fine upon the • parishes. This Bill seemed to be a brothel to that commonly called cue Quota B 31; ate proportion of men to be r sised in the parishes. was to be raised much in' the same way, and under the operation of a fine ; but, under the 1 operation of that Bill, not a tenth part of the pro. posed number is as raised ; he believed more than a tenth part for the Army Navy celinaive iy, but not more than th part for t e Arare. Although more we d, yet, in f: , not more than 1400 men were aaualle retairseci a the service. The 61st regiment, now at Mal . , was, he believed, composed mairely of the remains of these men, and was only now between 5 600 strong. Lnder that aft, the men wet e bound sere till the end of the war, or till their 1 to Great Brit.:in. But th e Ri g h t H on . G amen stated it as 07 . r recommeadntien of his Bill, hat ilt g rn would put ao mid :o beiloti g. It was on this vety groued that he *olieoe,l to it; because he mach JouSted. whether, in ,iris mantrifterin country. it would be possible to have such a i a a the cir cmustances of the coL.nr-y required, nut some sett of compulsion. flsis was the principle of the Militia force. lie consider-I it, therefore, AS a very rianger.o.s i eperiment, to lay aehle that s; stem which cur anc , Eavrs had found to answer so well, and to which this country was in a great measure indebted fir its present se. trity. lie must repeat, that it was a dangi roes experirner -, and one which, he was afraim would issue in dis appointment. Ile weldd met weeny but that m me: improvements might be made in he present system of balloting, at the same time, I.e -could rime:fly implore the House not to pia all end to the •yritem of balloting in some sl.ap, or mom:, i 1 as mmh As there was nu other rra‘ft cable meastoe to seiich the c runic could hove secoerse. •I ',hilly. he oh. jefted to the time when this me itureowa, brou w eht • tiro and . It has hours - admicret, that atcr nivieg prcvid:d reason tray to: our d:.:ttettle .e -c antv, and haviair hrtw-en five and 600.000 men in arms, t' e okjeCt is now to improve :mil i -tease the military of the Ike. and that a c• e side:able augmentation should take place. A : a Lis ,In•ady been adep:ed, of adding a bartalino seecrol distinguished regimens, - and also by C • ternen possessing veey considerable local L.f.t. ea.:, reosorg mot ter ore ;:i.ibl:c sc. vice. Bat dito. tag; tug SS . 114 welt- be P n g lari• uaa isIL iglu- Sol, an.