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• shell be deemed Mb; disorderly houSes, and the said on a former night, teat he would pay mg „ owners of theta' puiesl ia bl e as mice b y t h e l aw . Th e attention to the rem e dy propose d, f ur au ev il ac , A c t or the 39th of the King recites, that that pre. knowledged to exist. Here then was a confession vivo. Act did not 4, 1 ,4 to eertaiu purposes which of the evil, and that from high authority. With the Legislature then attended st to apply to, mid, respect to the objections of the Chancellor of the tiieternte, it enacts that houses in oliitio any De- Exchequer to the Bill, there would, he apprehend bating Societies shall be held, mod a t w hi c h mone y ed, be do diffirelty in remielyiug them. He hoped .hall be received for adiniseion, shall lie deemed that the dillieulties would not be the most loom disorderly Imiters,niul them, come the amts, o with- meet pointe iei the eye of the Ministers, but that in the meaning of (lee Mat of the King," Now if they would come forward to give them moistener the etith had stated precisely what dip orderly houses in a mutter of prinaary importance to thenixelvese.• were, then it would have been plane upon reference Mr. D. Beowse denied that Parhanscut had to Beet Act ; but in my apprehension, those words Inst the contidelice of the people ; e.. nif it had, are wiluily inoperative, me scented of disorderly that Bill would not he wifficient to restore it, t&sr houses nut being defined. Without these words lie was not aware that it had vet received the beano, of reference to the Stith, the Act of the aeth of 'Alike Lyeurguses of the Crown and Anchor. George 111. has its full operation, as it - elsewhere Mr. CUIWCN stated, that he had never attended , gives a detinetion of disorderly houses. Some the meetiugs at the Crown and Anchor, nor was ebeibts having been created by the introduction of / there a man in the country more hostile to env those words, I have mentioned my tutu • g is to thing that threatened the constitution than himself. tepee! that part of the Act of the eath, anti leave it Lord FOLasToNN said, that he would offer no lm, lull *operation aithout them." opiiiion upon the assertion, that the parliament Mr, I:Vint/tee:en said, he could not help re- . tenet not lost the coundeuce of the public. TI I eels - king that the Right Honourable end Leareed Hon. Gentleman was but lately conic to the theitleman appeared to hien to have urine stiWvii. House, anti perhaps had had opportueities of its tial realer' us yet unexplained, for they amehding curtaining the, spirit of the people with more an Act which had fallen almost into oblivion utter ,correctness than he (Lord F.). As he was not the lapse of tau years. present during some late transactions, he would tell No reply was made to this observatfoa. the Ilea. Gentleman what had pissed in that The inotiou was then put and agreed to. House; and, perhaps, lie would then see the 'le; DILL AGAINST TRAFFICKING ,'OR SEATS IN cesiity of the measure under conetleration. If the PAR LIA 311,N - F. Hon. Gent. had known that a charge had been Mr. CtimeEa moved the second reading of lies brought against a Minister for selling seat. in that Ell to prevent the traffic for seats in Pierlisiocid. House—that many Members had expressed their Mr. PERIAVAL said teat he had stated the other belief and knowledge of such transactions—that day that he would not oppose the House going iu- mealy had opposed silvery from the circumstance to a Committee upon the epievticei ; he should ea- of the extent to which they existed, and the diffi rutty of prescribing li m it s w h en ti le inqu i ry s h oul d here to that promise; lie thought. however, that it would not be amiss to amid liinewll of the uppor- atop—,f lie had known that, and that no ibersoil had money tine presented, to state souse objections that the hardihood to disavow it, he would not, in all Fro st' tick him upon the subject, in order that Gentle- laebility, object to the bill before them. The bill shit sues, might make up their ;elude upon theta, pre- not open a door to wild speculations, nor war it hi- V;0111/ to their being committed. Ile thought the troduced to satisfy clamour ; it was brought for ]fill objectionable from the manner in which it ward fur.the purpose of correcting abuser—abuses described the offetice. It was also objectionable which had been stated to be as notorious as the sun frornthe punishment it aasigned, and the prreau- at noon cloy. He was confident that if the lion. tionary provision it proposea. If the Bill was to Gentleman had been aware of all this, he woul d pass as it ne w s t oo d, i t wou ld affect a great have agreed with him in °pimp'', that the measure number of actions, which it could not have waL. expe dient "d iudil l' e ""k• Leto the inteaboti of the Honou ra ble Member oar. 1..00am/a opposed the motion. to affect. It w ou ld creme air toter incapacity to Mr. Poresomer said, that as there had been an understanding that the question should b e open to fell • bur gage tenure p roperty , b ecause suc h sa l e would come width' the scope of what the Act was debate in prieciple as well ii 3 in detail, on the ques tion, that the Speaker s h o uld l ea v e t h e Ch a i r , an d intended so pr eveu t ; besides, the provisos of the law acted both prospectively and retrospectively. as many Members. not expecting the discussion He thought there would be great difficulty in g e t. until then, were absent at that moment', he thought bog nil of those oliectione iii the Committee.— it wrong to proceed any farther in the present ti lt 'night be said, that a Jury would tint interpret stance. Elie Bill was read a second time, a nd o rd ere d to •it in that sense, lint that was not a satisfactory sea- . son why the Bill should he so loose. In penal s he crimmitted to-morrow. The Report of the Committee of S u pply was provisions, especially, it becaine them to be guarded, at all events they should avoid making brought up, and the Resolutions 'tarred to. any indefiuite unprecise enactments, when the pro. The Report of the Coinne.tee of Ways and Means was brou g ht up. O ii the R eao l ut i ou re ;wets, and the reputation of th e subject were to be me materially affecteel. With respect to the pu- 'pectins; Lotteries being put; Mamma, he did net think that the Honourable Mr. %ViitTalitAo said, that he would l'eg leave Gentleman comet be serious in placing it rather in to restate the °bitten 111 l ii lie had mole no u n a No the jurisdiction of die colinann law, than in a Cora. met night to that clause ; and oppose the second tuittee of that Hume. :tte to the outh to be take,' reading of it. Tice Right lion. Cieutlego" op by Members, 'whim s in his opinion could be more polite had said that the Committee went with their objectionable. He was sure the House would never minds prejudiced to inquire into the roiliest; that to each a ppe .ition.What e ff ect it (he he (Mr. W.) denied. They cerbeinly thought Pa it =I) ro would have upoa ale soloist elieseactre .a evils did exist, bat then - they coasidered the esi that house, when they looked to the Treating Act, dunce brought before them with iinpartmlity. It they might see it. Il e co ue l u d e d w i t h o b serv i ng appeared From their report that the Lottery was so that lie thou g ht i t mere f a i r for th e 11„ n . M em b er radically bad that no alteration was capable, of af mid to the House to state his objections caudally fording a remedy for the evils it entailedopenthe at this stage of the Bill. that there mi g ht b e a ' connumuity. It was contended that a spirit of ad- Inure . ample disc assion nod souud coueideration of venture should be rutted among the people • them wheel they came to Ise debated. in order to supply the exieencier of the Govern- Mr. euawee agr e ed, in eurue degree, with the meet. but that it should ' be stopped at a err ohjectious stated by the Right Honourable Geis- teen point. As far us the exciting of the tlentan ; lie was, however, of opinion, that some spirit was concerned they were successful ; hut means would be stretch out its the Committee to its the second paint 111mi/eters had completely avoid them. It was not his intention to preveut the railed, and there was no check. as had been M. see of burgage tenter. lie agreed diet it would tended and professed. It was dangerous in a country be a stoat .noise thing; that on a lenient', where to which industry was so necessary as this, to ex. the obligation of tin oath was to be imposed, post the people to delusive dreams and specula . the Bill should staud in such a way as to arl.nit • tions, which the Lottery was calculate', to excite; of two colonist:times. He did not know of Cue even the poure.t were called upon t o con t r ib u t e t o morality which noculcated the prevention of t the support of aim state, and it was impolitic to corruption in the lower classes, without extruding hold out any tetnptatiou in them to ex penal it the tame principle' to the hi g her. I n th e p rescitt tepee' visionary pur s uit s . Ala Pitt had attempted state of the eountry, it would he a meet desirable the reforination of the Lotteries, but failed ; the thiog to cousince tile people that no Member found principle was radically had. Ile could assure the his way . into that Hose by impr o pe r i n fl uence ;it Honou ra ble Gentleufan that there were calcule was of nesporttuice, because, whoever sat upon the tore new at work to counteract his plan, and thst benches opposite, whoever were entrusted with the arrangements were already made to continue M erles of Government, would tiled it impossible foe surmices, even in case the drawing was colifined to them to proceed without the confidence of the one day only. The Lottery was the permit of great p.ople, lie was otdiged to the Chancellor of the misery. It was also the parent of every vice.—. Exchequer for the caudid manner in which he hail Brothels were once licensed in this country. Auer acted. He hoped that if lie (the Chancellor of Placed under the controul of the Bishop of Win. the Exchequer) agreed in the principle of the Bill, chester ; hut even that system, immoral as it was. "rich remedies would be uplifted to the objection- was superior, in point of morality, to the licensing able parte in the Committee. as would ensure it his of lotteries. Even if they were instituted in the support. present age, and the Chancellor of the Excheerver Mr. Wltillailit said, that the House Was per. placed at their head, they would be less objection. feeely willing to givr. the Haii. Gentleman's Bill able. When licensed brothelsceowd, licensed lota fair play. The lion. Gentleman himself had con- teries sprang up ; so that awry devils were talons fugal the inadequacy of its provisions; yet he in than cast out. All the crimes in the Decalogise took occasion to haraneue the House upon the were introduced by it, and that for a sum ito pal. propriety of adopting the provisions whose efficacy try as to be scarcely worth notice. lie thought he himself deubted. He (Mr. W.) did l e s t k now that no inconvenience would remit from trying the • what the principle of the Bill was ; be therefore experimmit sue year ; lie would therefore prom - wee ono- to make Imainotcst against agreeiug in is pain- it. He was surprised at the hardiness of the i iele which he did not understa i nl. It was nut Right Honourable. eveutleetan, who attributed .ii t to enter into vague declamation and menace, the conduct of the Committee to entheisiasite--.. lie would say that they had not lost the confidence Ile disapproved of the colutoet of Mr. Wood, sii° of the country; stint would deny the existent e of was pail fur Joints nothing. The society Gar the corruption to so great an extent as the Hon. Gen- Suppression of 'vice had turned their attention to tleniae seemed to consider. Ile would nut follaw Lotteries ; but it was in vain to endt-uvour to car- the example that had bora art hint ; but would' Net the effect% without abolishing the sourer alto eineclude shortly, by simply declaring• his protest gether. He recomueuded m pie House to try against firin considered as agreeing to the priu- the experiment for one year ;if it was found that ciple of the Bill. the morals of the people were ben e fited by that Mr. B g eouuase said, that the House had a right suspension, he would expect their support for a to demand the %whew' of ibis Majesty's Ministers, total aholition ; if the system was foiled to be whether the slopes complained of were such as the vicious from top to bottom, the House, if it die- Howie should go about • correcting. 'They now charged its ditty, must destroy that system. stood in a sitmetion in which they never stood be- Sir THOMAS TUaTON said, that the speech of the fare ;it was iww ha the history of parliament to Hon. Greatcoat] was an appeal to the passions and hear things of eett.h a criminal nature evolved in the feeling, of the House; the facts to which he that Houle as had been lately avowed. and said to alluded were without preset. If it was true that he rer's ',buses. The question was, whether it was lotteries were productive of all the vices the Hnn. an idle elnaionr, or a well fou'ided call, which in- Gentleman had ascribed to thrum, they ought to be clever) ills. Hoe. Gentleman and the House to no- done away; but he del not think they were—end tic" sthesee. Ova of His Majesty's Ministers badt bey *Sordid a great source of revenue to ex - . 6.e_.-- f ........a _ _ - -Abu eountey, Whigls *heft to nieite.the Mose cant' how it interfered. An the evils upon which, r Honourable (hutleman had dwelt were owing .to iiisuratice-'-au attempt had been made to presfint insurances, which was in a great deg= cenfirl, so that th e remedy was not Upon the whole he considered the tax to be de fended, as it vas, at all events, a voluntary one ; and as steps were taken every year to ameliorate it. he thoug:it it hot fair to try it for one year more, mid tileb, if it was found that the public morals were endangered beyond a remedy, he would, for our,: 'agree to abolish it. Mr. WHITBREAD explained, that- the mile lie complained of we. e not of the present day ; they lied their existence at 'emit since the year Mr. WINDHAM argued that appeals to the feel. in ; s or the passions of the public were no fa mode of reasoning a in order to prove that any measure. Milort in itself bad, es might be instanced in the case of am, which, though in itself had, might lie justified under the plea of necessity ; but west he contended fur b.:a*, thAt it could not be disc puted that this st.aiis mode of raising revenue, or all others, by which the lots* possible isms to be gained Ly the Government, at the seine tune the most was to be lost by the people. If Government persisted in teaching the pea ale a spirit of ga m. blin 4 , this mug inevitably produce vice; the equally inevitable consequence of which was ruin. The people at large were subject to so many arts of delusion, that they were rendered Incapable of resisting the temptation held out to them, of pounds fur shillings ; and upon this Fiat-, ciple., In eoweeived there could t.e but one feeling . on the subject, that the injury was of so malignant a nature, that nothing but the most absolute ne cessity could justify. In so earlier stage of the business, perhaps, he ought to have maintained more decided opposition to the msasure ; hat eves as it then stood, be could out avoid deliveriug jrla opinion on the subject. Mr. PIdRCEVAL contended, that the evils attend ing on Lotteries were not so great as were alleged it was agr ee d up on th a t i nsurance was the real source of the evils complained of, as it was by thut means alone that people were led on as it were step by step to their own ruin. To remedy *hit. , they had been proceeding step by step, and he was ten without hope that it might be altogether cured by the ar....asure proposed of drawing the *lit& of the Lottery in one day ; this, if nut a radical cure, would at least have the effect of taking away the opportunity of so:extensive a mischiefs, existed i hitherto. It was calculated by en experienced per son, that 50n0 tickets were the extent diet could be drawn in one day. Taking . then the Lottery of 40,000 tickets, the whole might be decided is the same time by taking them in a quadruple propor tion. one number deciding the fate of fusty. He believed that great mischiefs, and of coarse mi series were attendant upon Lotteries,. b u t not that, these prove eded nom public ours. Little goes, and such .ehrinei were a great source of private misfortune, and he could not but think that if Lotteries were to go forward in his lieuse, it was better that such should go forward ander his own eyes, for the purpose of procuring a lieuetit to the, whole of his household. Mr. WI tosaroat t contended against the prin ciple upon which Lotteries were attempted to be supported. He belie Yea. that Lotteries inspired • the spirit of gambling, and therefore upon the principle upon which they were attempted to Ist supported, it might be contended that it was better they should be carried on all the year round. He remembered some years ago the slave trade was defended on the seine principle, imutely, that at all events it would be carried on, mod therebire it was useless to oppose it ; lit therefore did not know how to argue with those Geutlenteu, who now felt and admitted all the facts stated in the report of their Committee, and yet doing so, still supported the measure. Couceiving, thercAire, the Collide tiou to he radically bad, he could nut bring him self to agree to the niesome. Sir SaauLt. Rout silt expressed his decided dis approbation of the measure. The House then divided on the resolution, which was carried in the affirmative. Ayes 90. Noes 36. —Majority 54. The remaining Resolutions were then agreed tri. Mr. FOSTLR moved the Order of the I Loy, for the House resolving itself into a Cotuinittee upon the Irish Distillery Bill. Mr. 111JTCHINSON expressed his hope that the Right Hon Gentleman would not press this mea sure at that tete heur of the night, more especially in the absence of the Right Hun. Member for We. terror', (Sir John Newport), who, under the im pression of its not coining ou, and being indis posed, had gene away. Mr. Fostea did not conceive that to he any ren nin for dela) Mg a measure of such importance, more especially as the Session was drawing so hear its close. Mr. Powwowr suggested, that as the Commit tee was the proper stage in which the turd s of the several parts of the Bill should be discussed, the present was no hour to enter on that discussion, especially where there was a likelihood of such dif ference of opinion. Mr. PAINLI.I. observed, that the measure would be equally forward by going lido the Committee on Weduesday next, when the Irish Budget was to hr brought forward. Mr. FOSTF.IL proposed, that if the notice which stood for to-morrow were poitpotied, he would agree to putting off the Committee till then. The House divided on the motion that theSPEle. [Ca do leave the Chair, which was carried ; Are 64 Noes 22 Majority Upon Strangers being re-admitted into the Gal lery, we found Mr. Forret objecting in the Com mittee, to a motion made by Mr. M. A. Taylor, that the Committee report progr as, and ask leave to sit again. Mr. TAYLOR observed, that the qesestiost was whether they should agree to en attempt 'o go no with the Bill at that hoar of the eight ; and that, dining the absence of the Right Hon. Member (Sir J.lw Newport). occasioned by indisposition, merely betimes be dirt not wish to meet him u, the .subject? Feeling the impropriety of this moil, of pi:weeding, lei was tieteemnied tee defeat it t, s dividing the Howse if necessary upon leery cleave, er even word of the Vali. Z 1 ....._ • a. 4:4fvfz.•••• ,, i ••• • . tie!. Deitioti littewite wish eri the Ititht Ho? Ilotareblea Member alluded to vi o l periwig. Jag at , 1 ' the swot time deprecated the tilem of sine lion of Menthe"' being [wefts:try to the for any part of the enipire, and therefore wished the measure to go forward. Kr. M. A4.D.trt.oe urged the necessity of th - ise • MeMbers olesitorre more peculiarly ceiiiiersat.t with any isilissere bring present at its di.cusainit ; . ' auttowierbild *grim, that he conceived the Right 41ioniourable Gentleman oppoNitr to I)itn was afraid to meet the talents end ergunierq of his Ki3ht fy o . Honourable Friend, and therefore% fished the bu. SHUNS 10 K O forward (hiring hi. nffsetn•r. The Hon. :Wernher was called to ()refer, as puting motives to u y Member of Oilit liouse for hi. conduct. Mr. Foirrsa said he was notbfraid to meet any man. Mr TAYLOR disclaimed any allusion by what he had said to his personal enures... • Mr. W. WYfiali conceived his HMI.. Friend justified in supposing the Rt. 110,i, Member was • afraid to inept one by whose arguments lie had • been so often defeated. Mr. Cetiatta put en end to our witnessing the discrission, by enforcing the standing order of the flown!, inoeing that sti•unuers do withdraw.—The !Speaker was accordingly obliged to order the gal. leo, to hr cleared. Strangers were not again admitted into the gal. ley, but we understand that the fitrili , r eni.aidera tion ni the Bil: in Committee was poatipuned to Wtdnesd.iy nest. 11l The other •erders of the Day were disposed of, and the House adjourned at Half-past One o'Clock. T FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. FROM THE DUTCH PAPERS. FOURTH BULLETIN. BULLETIN. A ' Head -quarters at Bruunse, May I. " Os the crossing of the brid l e* at Landshut, Brigadier-General taicottegate proofs of valour and coolies:so. Colonel Lauriston placed the artillery advantageously,stid contributed lunch to the happy issue of this splendid affair. " The Bishop and the principal public function aries of Saltzburg repaired to Barghoinsen. to im plore:the clemency of the Esnpetnr for their coun try. His Majesty gave them his assumucv, that they should never again coins ander the dominion of the 'House of' Austria. hey Nig:aged to take measures for recalling the four battalions of the militia, which the Circle had delivered, and of 'which a part were dispensed and fled. " The head-quarters are to be this day removed to Hied. " At Branum, magnSines were fonnd with two .beeidred thousand rations of biscuit, and 6uoo Nark', of eats. The Circle . of Hied has famished three battalions for the militia, but tie !poetry part of :hem are returned again to their habitations. " The Emperor Or Austria was three days at Prutinair ; he was at:Socha:ding "heir he heard i.of the defeat of his army. The inhabitants confider linit as the principal cause of the ear. . The iambus volunteers of Vienne passed through this place after their defeat at Loud-JIM, throwing Sway their grins, mod carrying with flute • •., . in i ll mute their terror to Vienna. " 011 the 21st of April an Imperial Decree wet published its the Capitol, declaring the poets to he again opened to the English, the treaties iv:th this ancient Ally renewed, and hostilities against the common enemy began. " Cieiserai Ondinot has taken prisoners a bats taboo of WOO men, between Althorn and Pouted.-- This battalion was withant cavalry mid artillery. On the approach of our troo,ri„ . they made an MO tempt to tire with their small *wins out by: .4 sots rounded on al; sides by the cavai.y, were onliged to lay down their arms. " Hi, Majesty rinsed several brigades of light cavalry to pees in res... vat tiuret . guren. and among ashen, th ose of F! , sae Darmstadt; at whose ap l avars once be ow. pleased to smiress hi• 'satisfaction.— Gen. Murales, moire whose command the corps stands, presented several of them, to whom His Majesty was pleased to grant decorations of the Li gion of Honour. " (Amend Wrede lots intercepted • Courier, on whom were found the following letters in piei from which we anti p-rceive the state of confusicin 'in which the kingdom is: MU. Tot aatLLAGEC, AT as AUT Mt. We NI, April 25.' ' MT DTAR an.: tidings olden we have receieed here thiough th • easel. is and other persons wha have returned from the •i.oy, belie so eat us ,tors, that Air voting people run shout as if they i.. I kit their senses. The despair with w loch the lirk.t bit,. bee strati' oar army, ie known to mc. A second, struck by Bonaparte Imolai:, at the bead of su,noo select Mtn, and in obicli the centre's( our army was broken through, is on the piton of aucihitatilag the whole army in Bavaria. It would have bees over with us, if Charles, instead of retreating over the Danube, bad crossed the Inn, as the french expected At Ratisbon he limited himself w.til Belleaarde, and lola the LA wing sm . the French army in check ; but wow every chi. lie Lieutenseataptain et the Circle, the marmot, at diet, repaired to Es•etdine. It does out seem pimaibie that iliinis esti go en well. • It is said that Charles lead declared that it was necessary to attack the army twice. however ill it might succeed. The French hem three times met eswelry tbs.. norselres. Oe tbs. mesa:, the despe;r was so aster, that as• people set more thou a Ilsonsatol tes. - toes on Are, end threw i,tir the wet: r a number of carts loaded rids riwder sad ball. It M said, the Emperor was about is. have *hording, at the instant that be received unfavourable tattli.ccace trim hie brother Charles. It ie pretended the'. the Archduke, ue his retreat over the Deeshe, wrote r, the Emperor that be should make our man desperate attempt ; sf th 11 halo all is lost, acid ire must prepare our for e•ers thtog. • If you think you elides are out acetate where Hie, twit, scud than to me. Tones, ha. J. BRAE hoiT I EVALs ' Om reading over ass Is stir, I foul it fell or disorder I es. arm this perp * Anted style ; n attars tiara the cOntuatua taint 1. beads.' TO Ka. Jaw. PRILIPPS, AT lieLSOVltti. , - 1 • Dsaa Pattie/it—Le Had ma ease news quisitp. How May groat on in yna- quarter Teullesday 44 west all to cotifesion. We especial to sty the Freud epee iss. They were thoeght to be already of Pla b wii; aud bees already area at s ,t it soil 6.4,...,4 dopy would enam yesterday eresingh. • ..iy tbs. as , r3 , as. Tr. day we Mini that this VMS all a fates ...port ; OW w .am 4,,eme the eollllity, certaie, thpt the Arelitibelos irblirteit sea ro• frosted to Beleiele. We coolish" It es ses tele test Sate. trier, with his corms sod a eonederelret oimober et Tpv. Woe, are to cows (-inn the Tyrol, to Mato n. 1111 vs As rear of the raenel army. Let ass Ism Itessetbism sii thid bud...-,April se. LIOPOLD 114:10 , • 0 I A + f t o ■