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IMPEIII4 L PARLIAMENT. • norsE OP I.ollus—ritumovr, 31xT $. So the Appeal, Kerr • late., Curimst e z re tl4t h e w, Tasuber eu.rusiturtain sr.. axed for Saturda; The Spirits unialswit stuisens.ea srrsrll Pri vate sifts, were letuegiat ap isu.o tau C.:Loons, and rroisac- . testy reed a taut tear. imissala isICISCHANTSIIVA. I'isc3rint 611)6101:1u utit w rh- pa rrii fur w:iie4he had preset-l) ino..erl were treed rut the Table, he stmultl !Misr, the liituse i?e anusortoutl on tsiet'day wiseii,P at which period h.: shwa:id bring forward his pro;:rised motion. • C 149 LIC ,P T. 11,19 N. . Lord GiteNvittE. nose . "6nwilliogly.to post priTie the motion of Uthieh he had Owen notice for the lJth of the preaeut mouth. Feeling as. he did its importance, - nothing hut a strong sense of duty could induce him to change the time originally flied for iisdiacusidon. That necessity be loft from tile unavoidable %hamlet of a ruble Earl ((;rey) ‘lito would not he able to atte...cl in his place on the *c which this menstire was link fixed. He trusted that ha ,would be in his place by the 27th, irrs,.;:h day he thin fixed for h a promiseilmotion the e';•Lhttfteeetititt;u LOrttaaimcdseune had no objection, on such it 4 E10441 So l.ht postponement ; hut he trusted that tf_ the petition, leas to be discussed this session, the Noble llama would not prepare a longer postpone ment. ' The order was then fixed for th, i.7th 01 01 May. ORDERS. IN COUNCIi.• Lord Gar.stlLLl said,• these was also another anbjevi of importance; of which he had given a general notice previous to the recess, heOteaut an Adlress to Ilia Majesty to suspend the ooeiation of the Orders is Connell. • Rumours, however founded he knew not, bad gone abroad, that it was the intention of His Majesty's Government to yevidt them, in consequence of the pleasing hope that onr relations with the United States of Acne- Ara would be restored to their former amicable in tercourse. If such was the fact, be cougmtulat tie country, and was much more anxious that the wevocatioo of the Orders in °pencil should procet;tl from the voluntary act of the King's ?guarriniein, than by any motion eif hi.. How ve if DO such intention should be manifested, by the confla tion of the preseut mouth, he pledg e) himself to • submit to their Lordships the propriety of address in Majesty for their repeal. • 'Lord HAWICESSURY rose fur the pnrpoee of gnarling against any inference which hi. silen ce sleight eorouroge, with respect to the Tarnow of eepsal, the Noble Baron alluded; at the same time that he dray out to male a single observation Oil the ata.c te:4ionagaith linerica. St7o ICH JUDICATURE The Lono CH kicti.i.ort order of t'u day for c^mmittal of the Scotch Judicature SM. On the motion for postponing the preamble— Lord JERKIN entered into an able discussion of the principle of the bill. lie denied that it was calculated to promote that object for which the , Legislature originally conceived it proper to nitro duce a reform in the administration of juritsee in Scotland. That object was principally to facilitate the burials@ of that House, by preventing the pressure of Iritorcli Appeals, find by t h e udoptiou of propel reinediea, to do joaticoto the suitors in likotlasai. Much *sod would certainty be e Tecird by the present adlii—but there was not a single provision-which went to enthrotie the main object tor w4kh this measure of seto7ux was originally . reerotoftehdi _ _ The Loa? Cuitora.LLoa achnitted that the pre l. Nid airat‘ not uslestiated to produce the ad venter, he wlthoell--44.111 it eras to be recollected, doe tt OVAIS only a .rep is the proAres.ire advance of imnrov.,avrent. He thought it best to proceed grad t:ie tviihea sad opinions of the people of Scotlenai were issUy secertatned o.t rite glappest. ive Earl of LAR.IIIIIDALt, and Lords 11.31.t.axn sold Oggioniti.r.,coatentled. %Jut tbe iv . tt....sit cora- .•,. • . „ .re was not conip*trio o bj ect o f re form.— yas idle in attempt any inefficient reinedi, II .Ik-4 Ont h u.e boldly investigsed the source of the. ass% mad checked it in its origin. Lord REDESIPALZ, the Duke of Armin. Earls frOICTON mud tis.Lowar, supported the bill, be cause it proceeded• as far as it was necessity, and stepped sheet IA nen that necesii•y An .lin•littinetit, to fern a uir•sion of the Court of Session into three i•istead of two cham ber., was, after nose discussion, negatived shit out a Ili vo••inn. CIIAIRMAP then reportei p and %lied have to sit again to-murrow. rdewi.— Ac'eourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Me. V let terns, Chairman of the Committee appointed to try the tnnetts of Ike Dublin Valwersity Petttson, brought up th e hereet d the Cutommt.e, which stated the Sitting m e mber, Joi.it Leadie - Foster, was eleeted, and the Pe titinu WaS Hot Vaginas or resstims. 'lite flower le•ving met fee the *miner of ballotimc f ur e Committee to till the Elrct.on tetttion for New Mallon, the following Wolper' were chosen Ws. Lein, thigh. o, Ltri. Melenim Laing, Esq. Earl of To envoi h, It Swains, Eeq. John Lowther, Esq. Fir John t). King lit H. V. Tempest, . Str w. 11.11wyd, it.,,. Jos. O'Calirgima, Esq. S.r l . Aan 1%. promo bile. J. Ireland Ilasekhoes, Bsq J4•ha looms, P.M. I• burt*o,Kb—rhos. D1101:IA, Egg slut Benj. Hall, Esq. The Bill fur pme!dius fur the lute/meat of Dead Bodies wrshrd un eburr, WIIS , read $ steaad tour, and onk red tu be ebuiroitted 1011111.7077 preltlited !Merril from the ofgee of (`isoeflectelar) in Ireloud, puienmit tu Order u inch, o , o be tuutitam of Sir JOU , . L$ teat. sotw Uered to tit printed. JOHN ititreoN, Mr. SPIIIRIDAN presented tote petition or St. John m aw s, E.g. praying relief. The Petitioner, he *hated, had been called to the 'riots liar, in the year irio,,; xud WWII after, in canary's' cute of the in surrection, hi the tome year, be WWI iiTehendel. awd 10aZtti in Cowl, where ic remain ed i.l the closest and woo severe coutinessilelit fer the apace of two year.. Ar,er repeated applications wade try hou.elfaitil fritiol..to the Lord Lieutenant f,,, relict, he gray at leutph liberated, though not L..fore a Sief Willy' Of the charge* against hint hot, bitten place ; and, after the ',boat minute literati • ration of the matter, the suspicion was dir.corered to he altogether Asurounetted. Sir Ahrens ‘I'LLI.k.hLEif said, he hud uo objec tioii tiothe pititiou beim reccocd, :tad C h after completely utee‘ogeted. ti • Me. at,eivetl. the Petitioner stated, in the petition, that s the. mutter Opal al been it ompletely iiheuigated from which tie e titiouei rosined naeloteo to infer, that tioverinneat it.e4 ani perfectly apprised of the wjustije tifthe treatment lie lied received, and tie 'nue' oiejety of his contiteinent. Here the petition oas reed, ea Ab the Heastrallis the Cheepoie ii Peri:newt TN I PETITION OAP St. J•IIV Most respectfully sheweiti, That year Patititnier is a Bactister, having been a/twill/a to the Irish Ear tuTrunty Term, int*. That your retitiouer, shortly after such sarsisslon, awid. as your Pet bolter supposes, in onseequace of I:ac taunts. Lion or the gad of Jody isi surd year, ou to lusapt thereof committed, sea State Prisoner, to haussiuliaw, where )uus Petitioner remained for wore thau two cuts. That year Petition's unequivocally diclares kis a/I/re ctum, and believes that Goveiuutent, pinters: ousht Inca Deem its opinion, is now, alter winute tuvestigetion, fully convinced of your Petitioner. innocence. That you Petitioner having, by each coafinessent as above stated, beets deeply injured, nut only la his character and property, bat also to kis professional and other pontos, ventures to ,r 1t kis 'mute the consideration pf , nearaale Home, and most reupectfully hupes,"ll4ol apou an iusowigetion thereof, this Honourable Hour w vent to your Petationer such relict;,.. may to Its jestice ay wisdom appear adapted to his Vievnaces and peculiar sins.. tine. Aud viol/ Pctiorwr shall, fec. Lc. Duhlin;Peb.lo, 'sob. ' ST. AMPS MASON. Afters few observations from Sir Elias PA irliCK - We - were uuable to collect, ftlr i p.Mooap said, be did mot mean to coatrovert the 4,oewledge of the Gentleman opposite us to the ficts. The Petition before the House, cud a visiaty of Other% now coining forward; which he had seen, ebntamed i tivo allegations, with respect to tbeimprisenment and the treatment when -in efts - on.: to the iusprlsoolueut on suspicion, itif clad not mesa to say, fer the present, whether it teas a well-founded Inspicion or not ; but with Tweet to the treetuedirteini in -prison, if the idles**. stated in .the.veriourAueumeats which he boeteepas were true, he did ,uot, per to toy, that whatevuo might be the measure of t goat, the treatment of the prisosesi eat, dishonour and a dii,gace to ell cif ilielpftlefeeetellefito Mr. IhUrailitillUltni milt from sue thing be could collate of the detail* Irish C.:intern useistetrithme twenty years back, he was not v-- prised of atria instance Of an improper exertion of the extraordinary ,losi-rn which it had been judgelex , : . aria them with. He recommended to the House to 'beware of confounding meter with justice. The persons in sclera' who coin.. plained, were threw whose principles had been cow. misted, roes whose anxious desire it lied bees to, introduce iota Ireland a democratic fonn of Go-, -.•erineat, and completely separate her from Great' tautens. Such persons it would be extremely ago . proper to consider objects of mercy or lenience. Mr. W. ,Sutemi observed, that the Honuorl ble Member had confounded, if not inuocesee with guilt, at least suspicton with guilt. If no trial had ever -taken place, though demanded, it the Petitioner had been treated as a guilty per son, there was the justest ground toe complaint ; and the positions of *it HOistranible Member were aitogether wrong and unfounded. With respect to the existence of any fart, he sugg.ted to the Hcmouralde Member that one positive proof was worth more than all. Its negative proofs; and the fact must be thereby established, were there a thourind suck negative proofs existing. lie would bey more, and this without at all memang to de preciate the conduct of His i(fojetty's present lriett Government, that ;if the Geatlernan hail received such injuries as the Petition stated he tied, lie would be justified in -bnaging an action, and en titled to damages is His nlejesty's Court., agriiist the perpetrators shoe glaritlg an outrage. Sir Wa4l.aaLCY cout t endeds that the business bad beets thoroughly investigated, and there their appeared just reason for entertaining suspicions of liacheracter and conduct, though not sueb.as were supposed sufficient to bring hit i to trial. Colonel BARRI was surprised to hear the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. M000re) say, that the conduct.of the Irish Government to the 'Petitioner was a diegraee to all civilized Govermueut. Colonel Woon spoke to order and contended this mia not the proper period fir ;aking the matter into consideretioo. . _ Pin Monett eeplained. and said he had gaily made t chime agaiust the Irish Government. pro vided the a!fi.gations of the Ilitition were founded. Doctor Dinar Nsx supported the line of con duct pursued by the (;overtitnent of Ireland ; at th a t p er i o d the te -n ere no other mean,. he said, of retaining Ireland in our possession. Mr. WHITSILEAD was far from believing such steps as those described iu the petition *ere ne creamy to be taken for the safety of that country at any petind. 'Pie. petition was not the only en •dtnce eNisting of the tinwarmidable and cnacl eon .duct of the Government of that coneby in late ,yous. There had been charges mode which had never yet been disproved, am tinting even to mur der.; particularly to one instatice,where a person im prisoned merely nailer sualeciois of disloyalty, bad been so srilictly coofined, that he was actually hal , - tied into eternity for want of nutriment and me dig al relief. Sir ARTltell WCI.T.C3I.IIr said, that as 000O as the circurnstianee to which the floe. Member al- luded had found its war into the public prints, the Lead Lieutenant had caused the most miaow examination to take place on the apbject, and the report had Leen. detected to be mahout founds tin.), except so fax as. misted to the mere circnm sta.,.•e of his death. Alt'. SHERIDAN said, he would easily satisfy the I lonie as to the eire umstances of that unfortunate inast's death, *ere it regular, as he bad the report or the Coroner, signed by himself and the Jury, who had bee a to:ieetexl fur the put pose of holding ao inquest on the Lody. IRISH POST-OFFICE. _ _ Sir A lITISUIL Wlttl.lttit.EY ell the order of the 'lay for the second reading of the Bill for enabling the Post-Master-Cement% of Ir►tand to purchiue land for 'Merging the Post-Office of Dublin. r. PONALI9IIIIf pas ligAtiaisitetl with rever,sl per sons belonging to that Office. anal laud nerPr guider ittorgl there existed a Integrity for tiny cat.-idt rg!,le alteration of atilt:ans. ileace he as induced to believe tae prebetit demand, louvred of being ' %we a wanton expenditure of tlie . tuowey.!, - Pit Y maintre44. Ote Post ai:int big illiffy large fod ciairipktiou of tse b WO in tli (*anion he went.' atmtute the lou.v, and etuv.., by later§ in hes iin-vesaiei, that boll - the present and the lute Post "KwAteri find ateried. isfr.f.xataiLt.t. knew of -uo Archaean:T. except in one 44€ wind) was iuceiivewittut am! confined. . Sir ilacrijuia VigLl,XxLitY replied, the l irii;niple addition to be• made was in a new eorting....iiice. The Bill was then read, and ordered to be comb gifted. • • PUBLICANS' LICEMICS. Mr. lltt.ut4siis observed, that the present mode I of granting. licenses for bribe,/ ale, &e. was att teutied w ith many inconveniences. Licenses, igt present, were granted by 'Magistrates Or their clerks.' throughout the country, who being out of the contruial of the Excise Department, were ex treuiely tardy in making their payments into the Excise. At least this was made an apology by the, Receivers in the Excise-offiees, for neglecting to pay their arrears into the Itecefier4leueritl's hands. lie was inclu oeddroal these circuaturtnces, to suggest so filtaration in the mode of coliectingthe,e Excise du ties. He should propose that all persons selling ule, should, in future, resort to the Magistrate, who should deflect to every fit person a certificate, which, oft being delivered to the Excise Office, should subtle thent to receive a license. This mode of separating the selection of proper persons for olitaining licensees from the swinging of licenses, be thought would he productive of considerable benefit. He therefore moved ti That the House should resolve itself to-morrow into a Committee to corr•idev so much of the Act of the 47th of the present reign as related to the granting of li censes." _ _ _ Alter a few worth from Mr. &Lowe; and Mr. GIDDY. . . . . . . • *rJ.NIVPIPORT said,he could not help admiring the consistency of the present system ofGorerument. As Chancellor of the Irish Exchequer, he had thought proper to adopt a similar regulation to that riow proposed by the lion. Member, which vested in the excise the power originally in the Magistrate. 'fhirisower bed since they been returned to its for mer possessors by the present Chancellor of the Irish Exciseguer, though the principle and the ea- PedirncY. of Aim improvement were about to be egeitssecogisised by the change turjested by the Hoti.Xember. -7 AfierW,few words in explanation by Mr. Hvt -11,11160111, the motion passed. .06 thetnoti on of Nlr.livontittost.'‘Tbnt thellonse should resolve itself into deommittee on the report of the Committee on the Assessed Taxes Bill." Mr. BIDDCLrY rotie,and said his objections went to the whole of the Bill. He hod nsbderstriod the Hon. Member wished to raise, by the pro posed system of taxation, the sum of loo,ooui. Oa the authority of a most respectable personage, who had sat in the chair of the Finsoce Committee, he was confideot in maintaining. that the demised revenses of the Crown.abenld always be added to the Cmtsolidated Fund. The contrary had beso, he lamented, the practice ; he was, however, aware of the authority under which the deviation had taken place. The motion, he had understood, was to repair the casual deficiencies of the civil list, by applying a sum to the purchase of lai.ds. The utility of such purchases was by no mcansto be compared with the advantage to be derived to the putvlic from the execution of his plan, should it meet the approbation of the Ilou9e. It was neithr r siece,oory, nor yet his wish, by any monis, to trench on the hereditary revenue a the Crown. He was only anxious an inquiry and adjustment of the matter should take place ; the result, he was coati dont, would be acirantageous to the public: The consolidated fund must inevitably be enlarged ; and there would no longer exist any necessity for the imposition of fresh taxes, which it is but 'justice to endea►our to accomplish in the present state of the nation. Mr. Ross said, it was the duty of the Honoura ble Member to state the amount of the sum which had, according to his statement, been impropedv applied. There was a line of distinction necessary.] to be drawn between part of the reyeuue of theH Crown, which might fall into the colisoliclat+d fund. andanother part which it was necessarystioilld • be appropriated to repair the casual deficiencies l ot the civil list. If the sui-us alluded to by tlyr lion. Member had not been applied to the civil list, that list must hale inevitably fallen short. These sums were added to that list, under the respectahle authority of the opinions of the Attorney and Soli citor-000mi, and from what he had been able to collect, so far from being 100,0001. annually, they were not one-half that snip. Mr. Husltssoo said, he held in Isis hand the accounts of those demised revenues, sines the rear 1797. which only amounted to 30,6141. annually, out of which there were so many different defalca tions to be made up in the Civil List, that had not these sumsbein appropriated to that purpose, the Parliament must hare necessarily increased the Civil List itself; in which rase it was imposible the public could be any gainer. Mr. BIDDULPII contended. that such an ac count was a poor, pitiful List, not containing near the . amount of the real value of these accesaious the Civil List. After an explanation by Mr. Row, the House di►ided on the propriety of goinic iuto a Com mittee on the report ; when there appeared— Ayes, 31—Noes, 11-11ajor:ty, 30. After strangers were admitted, we found the Committee in conversation on the propriety of permitting the formers and land-holders to use guns for the purpose of destmying rabbit, on their grounds, in which Sir H. MILDHAT, Lord Poe cossets, 111 r. Wurroacao, sod Mr. B•ousx, took a part. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER at length agreed, that such persons should have pensission to use guns for that purpose on their owe grounds. Mr. PoNsonry was surprised se. yet to have heard of nothing like a budget from the Chan cellor of the Exchequer ; he wished to hear a comparative statement of the expense of the last, :cad the probable expenditure of the pres:At year, with the reasons for making this addilionid requ,:t to Vorissnrut for aid. CaAnust.t.ott of the EXCHEQUER Mid, ht had alreadfitade such a 4tutement of the supple' necessary, with the ways and means to meet tLt supply. !Ile had purposely delayedvFee.sicg tl.e Loun, as- lie conceived it would be snore advau tageously_made st; later period of the yea r , A cOnvafteetion 'swain took plaee on the Land Iteveriiic - ot"tte Crown. between Mr. BIDDOLI'iI, Mr.24. - italftetar, and Mr. ROSE, in which- the lo ur ;tioitiiseed see more, diet wu nocurate return et thew: reecieties t ee Wel before the House. Mr. P. Moosta contended it was a (nitrate to the present ~limiters that they could not kind out any weans of alumeciug the paltry supply for the psegent year, by owe Opeciu, of cecoi.otpy or re. trenelonsaist. It only aniquuted to. lion,uool. To ,91,,n ,n- *Well trifling boos there were a 4 itepona of erhenee eininnittees,.e ach cf "hit h he! 'thought crould at least produce Ido,oool. At least he could procure a cow puny of Geutiemen.atho a ould give 84,0013000 L for the udvahtages held out h . • boar re t inas. Mr. BARING did not know what great degree of credit the Chancellor of the Exchequer t.as eau titled to for delaying the execution of the lose s for the Nude bad since risen, and the Right lion. Gentleman could uot but be aware of that Liman. stance. _ . Mr. linsatssost contended, the saving to the country by the delay of the Isim woull automat to near half a million, both on account of the rise of the funds, and this saving of interest on the loan. 'This benefit he hoped tote Qornmittee would not quarrel with Ministers follr The growing credit of the country was not certainly consistent with the daily details of public distress, nor could the increasing revenues of the country be attributed to the 141113 C tatuse. Mr. Ross supported Lis Hon. Friend's state. nients of the prosperity of the country in credit slid revenue. Mr. BAN ea attributed the rise in the fends to the difficulties attending the employment of capi tol in other lucrative speetiletions. Mr. I lusstssom cousidered it the consequence of the late funding of exchequer bills. Mr. Rose said, that for many years he had not known of any exchequer bills sold at a premium, whereas they were of late sold at a premium of lu and lea. per cent. Sir Joan N11111'01? thought that a rise in the funds was not always to he hailed as a mark prosperity. If the prevnt system continued, ai debarring us from all trade with other nations, very much feared, the rise of the funds would L.: proportioned to the greatness of oar calamities, as it would be founded on the Gbstruetion of our capital_ front commercial speculation. Mr. DIAITIISW MOIITAGUI said, it was singu lar that at the present momentous crisis the funds of the country were never in a more flounshisig state, and that Government should never bane found less difficulty in accoinplishing.their loans. Mr. STLPIIENs was astonished that the Sight Hon. Baronet bad said, that the Orders in Council destroying the commerce of the country, and the .want of commerce, were the cause of the rise hi the funds. He ought to have recollected, that the • fnuds rose three months before the Ortient in Colin.. •cil ; and it was singular, if they were the cause of the stagnation of trade, and the stagnation was the cause of raising the funds, that it wihild not have the same Effect on America, where an embargo ex isted which destro)ed her trade altogether; but the American funds, instead of having risen, had fallen lower than they ever bad been since Ame rica become an independent nation. Mr. A. Batten said, the Honourable Gentle man must he completely misinformed as to the state of the feuds of America since the embargo was laid oa. He was confident they had risen instead of having fallen. Ile had seen several or ders from Moyne* to purclmse American Stock in this country, it having been reported there that it had fallen 1111 this country. Did the Honourable Gentleman knew that the funds in Holland were at 10 per•ceat. and in France at 5, and would he argue that this was a proof of the flourialaing state of the continent' The several resolutions were then read and agreed to. Mr. IVit SIMON brought up the report, which was 'ordered to be received to-tuorros. IRISH CATHOLICS. - - . Mr. WIIIiTON la rougtr up the report *of the Committee ou the Irish Supply, whoa' was Rail first tium, uud On the questioit being put fur ti:e accoall reading. Sir June Newroste rose and said, the reduction of the grant of the last Parliament, from 13,u001. to 94501. was • part of the system of His Ma jest 's present Shouters to alienate the affections of a great body of His Majesty's subjects, the Roman Catholics of Irehuld. It was not multi plicity of Priests they worsted ; but they wished to have men of education in that situatroc. It seemed, however, to be the deterniniatlim of AliiiiEters, 'that they should be uefu without aily education. He knew seven pa rishes in the county of Cork, where tbere were erwi 18.30 Protestants, and the member of Cathr, was 7J,000. In these parishes there was enly sn equal number of Clergymen of both pert.ttavoi:•: a:id would it be argued, that this was a butficie:.. of Catholic Priests? prom the nature arid ns ' of their religion, their duties were more severe those of the Protestant Clergymen, and it logically impossible that so small a Luinher coil. i „perform their sacred duties to such a macs of peon: , • Au argument had been used on 'former ocessieg, that if the country did mot educate them, t,.: higher orders of the Catholics would educate children for the profession. This was a fallacice idea—for the Catholic Nobleman had not the inducement that the Protestant Nobleman had, t educate his children for the Chu-ch. The rro--:- ant brought them up to a profession where the Nll,* a Brent number of capital prizes to he obta . ed—the other would educate them for a pioles,.. where there was nothing but blanks to' be dray When be looked bark to the late improvident pr motions of Protestarre in Ireland, it appe•rr him that there was a prof/4.604n intended :ie. the most numerous class of His :11m: l e , t's iu that cortutry.—/A legal cry Ilecr 11' from die INiaisteriui Bemlites.) The P. 4. Lt [i the Cal t uti hint thei nee of tix bad ;any toN an gre .111 v‘i La rat bui cot