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;on prided then:Kitts on the introduition of : wore, and the progress of the -Coto -4„ But he Meld not - see ist what way wer e justified to take that credit. The could not forget that it 'was introduced ~ it ,nourable Viend of his (Mr. Bichlidph), Jai toially uneonnedted with that Miaistry, and received trom them a lukeirjirm and hollow l'hey had continued one year in office, had never seggested the necessity of such in tu • g aton into o ffi cial abusei. With such a japan as his Honourable friend ( Mr. Bantes)' s, t here was no do ubt much bene fi t would tot , He meant something like praihcal good, 1 ach different from the pledges of those Ministers. 0 , though they had crested Commissioners out number, could claim no merit for the effects Of r• iogniries. If the House direffied• its.view to e c hops in the Military Department, it would w, r ebsog but an increase of patronage and iss: ~-nce. In the general examination, • the result ,„..i prove, amidst the mutual recriminationi erf• ,: tat: a: - ...1 present Ministers, a strong similitude L 'a conuu& of commit Stanhope and Mr. WA , 3 1:,, who, riough bitterly inveighing against sac% her, were in the end obliged to coutine their ob- Atolls to the service Which each had &Me to iliseLf. Mr. SHERIDA.N roes sad spoke to the follow. g effe 3 : —H Mr. SPetker. Sir, I have for come 'se, in my hatable apprehension. observed the : , :n. Gentleman who last addreSsed the Chair, to ,:ic tillowed up his attacks *gaunt the late Minis el of the Criswn, with a peculiar acerbity. But. ir, 160, by the conclu di ng observations of has recii. this niot, that, it not so severe in his con- Imnation, he leas at least dev.•rmined to display a philosophic neutrality towards their successors in office; sod though it is impossible not to pereeivo the acrimony wiffi which he follows up the antipathy le has for some time cherished against the iate ser vants of the Crown; yet. methinks, I can recoiled there was one" a time, in which the mews and con of that Administration did not appear to that Bon. Geotlemao so hostile to the interests of the eounuy. or co much at variance with•the public principles, which, at Mat time, he professed. I do maw% Sr. having hall Owe the bearer of a pub lic message, for I' am by Ito means the divulger of private secrets, which fully convinced me that the lion. Gentleman had then no obje&ion to the late Ministry ; but rather. that if certain wishes were com plied with, and particular *Reflation& answered, be would bare been completely dukified to the it.ls and priociples el that Administration. (Hear ! A tor ! ) I will not, Bir. farther enlarse on this plain matter of fait, or on the answer it gives to the accu sations against the late servants if the Crown, in which the Hon. Gentleman has this night so libe rally indulged himself ; it is sufficient for the present to assert, that I em confident that Hon. Gentleman fully understands me (Nen. ! bear ! ) That Hon. Gentleman has --- my right lion.. stances they have trenchment, and e deure of the Gentlemen yo , swerved from First Lo: - d of the Admiralty was in conteagibtion, and fully admitted, when a Noble Lord, erbo had undergone the censure of this House, but avglitifter wards acquitted by his Peers, who, for what I know, is now a Member of the present Adminis tration, was at the head, of that Board. He cer tainly did receive a compensation for the deficiency of his official salary, by the legal interception of large • f money, under an order of the Barons of the Scotch Exchequer, and further continued to receive the profits of this new office, subsequent to the period at which he was arraigned by the censure of this House, and had aaually resigned the offi:e of Lotd of the Admiralty, for the deficiency its the salary of which this new compensation was given:— (nce,. ! keg,. I) If, therefore, the Km. Gentleman ' is unable to make better charges than he has this night advanced, I do molt sincerely hope, • that' he may long continue M fulfil thelonourable duties of Charger• General to this House. Loyd lan:king, and continued cries of Mar! bear!) There was another Hun. Gentlernau (Mr. Montague) who had thought proper to assert, that my Hon. lfriendi, at this stJe of the House. were unable to reply to the arguments be had brought forward. Surely he might have bad the modesty to have waited,before he made such a statement, fur their answer. For my. own part, 1 am fret to acknowledge, that I have heed, from that Hon. Gentleman, no one argument which I should presume to answer. (Listrirece ing) It is true, that he has wandered into a very ex traneous discussion, and has very largely dealt fu the ititreidlietiort of trey in ielicate Etas, by entering into a gaup and estimate of the professional briefs, ' retainers, and profits of the HMI. and Learned Gentleman tMr. Perceval), for whose private virtues and Parliamentary talents 4 certainly entertain the highest res2ea. It was nut very delicate either to the house or to that Learned Gentleman, to corn . mence such an exarninacon of hi. legal practice, or to attempt to convince the House of the amount of the wit of money which, by his professional exer tions, that Learned Gentleman might be in or out of pocket,(Heac I hear!) Ilia Ire had given up the lucrative situation of the Attorney-Generalship, estimated at 10,0001. per annum, could be no argument with my side of the House, 'as I am • confident, even the Honourable Gentleman will give ms credit, when I sincerely and strenuously assure him, that we (lid not want the Learned Gen tleman to fulfil the odice. (.4 load husk). In deed, I must confess, that with such talent , for his profession, as that Lear net ( Gentleman possesses, with such opportunities sit advancing to the Most eminent distrodions in that profession, and with such an extensive field los the display of his abilities, as the situation of Attorney-General afforded, I cannot avoid expressing my surprise, that he should have renounced that station, with an emolument at 1(1,0001. per annum, and.such great advantages, to stake a tolerable Channel* of the Exchequer, with ustly 3.5001. a year. With respett to the two cases which h. been adverted to as the only preeedent, e Duchy - ecnnomy, of exhilited by the , servants os the punts; resources. or to increase nif den, t ( rilawi cry oj Rear i he,.r I) Have t.. , misty support, task. reduced the au ff, the Comanissariat. and the I In the other case, as referring to the late Lord Barrack depertmems t ( Hear I hear!) B ut the Ashbutton, it must be relnemSered, that he was honourable Gentleman flies from one unsupported ' seat into the House of Peers, and consequently ex. charge to another. and he attempts to assure the eluded from prolesiional exertions. That he was House, that the salutary appointment of the Corn- also a Cabine Miniver. and rccei.ied the Duchy of mime of Financo vim aftuelly forced upon the Lincaster„ under th e e x p ress conditilin. that it was late Administration. can such an assumpti o n be to be resi g ned on hi. expefted succession to the m lls eogoised 10, sacred observance of those etbe o- high (Office of Lord Chief Justice of the Courtsof tial and so strongly ineadeated principles cf re . King's :lunch. It is true, 4.1 . , that this distinguish. penclament, which charattensed the march and ed charatner had been con - piceitus for his (Trott m \ progress of my Noble Fliend. in that solid to the Servant: of the Crown. But said, I never system of finance, which he so ably and so will admit, that such an opposition is a ?root of the eloquently proposed to this House. Bet, Sir, I ap- want of allegiance or vent ration to my Sovereign— peal _to die manly candour of m 2, Hon. Friend (Mr. ( kriet.ted cries If hear ! *hear ! ) ('he cry resoln. Biddulph). for a confirmation of my statement I tion which eas proposed by a great Lawyer and ask him, whether there was any other interference enlightened Statesman. has this night been ad exerted, thass manly to extend his purpose, and en- vetted to by some fienticman with a sneer. — large his object ? and If my Nchle him! (Lord H. But the constitutional advice which that great ratty) did not most seriously supp n his propo. man gave on the increasing iiifluence of the intion ? Whist a Minister has been in the habit of Crown, was not to sap the power of his King, "Livia* to dm Haw pledges of his intention to aft or to weaken the just and acknowledged prerega ?poll the prinsip_le of a salutary economy. and whtn. tive of t he Executive Authorit y , but to guard the in the exercise ofhis duties. he has uniformly evinced liberties of the People front the invasion of the the sincerity of those pledges, it does net, in my creatures of the Court, and to preserve, unim opinion, require any exertion of Ministerial power paired and undiminished, the affection and love of to take out of the hands of any Member the intro- the people for thrift Monarch. ( Hear 1 hear!) It dodie. of a legislative measure. according with the was honourable to see snch advice given to the views which that Minister entertain*, and advancing Throne , by its Constitutional Servan ts ; and that these beneficial °Noels which he had undeviatingly patriot, who thus establislted the principle. was bete in view. Will the Honourable Gentleman, fully entitled to the honours he received. ( Hear ! Ali has made this charge whist the late Ad- Ater!) And again. I most be allowed to repeat, *Mutation, and who is a Washer of that Cont- that the dearest and ultimate interests of the Soya- Snit 0:—(1 + 4 I es! be N eel, ems (WWI sot ily semi reign, are better preserved by a Constitutional Op ..ll4oisicrs) Well, as sot being a Member of that position, than by those craving and avaricious ser- Commhtes (a 18810 J, he is enabled to give a more rants, who are unceasingly engag e d in battling for impartial opinion, ail! I can aria him to declare places and pelsions. ( Laud cat's of hear! bear.') whether. in the formation of that Committee, there Bust in srhat manner can the claims of the lion. ;was the slightest exercise of partiality, or any elev. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Perceval) be ap zon of ministerial management ? It was only for plied to the two precedentito which 1 leave advert he House to look to the Chairman of the Commit- ea' lie has 13•• tin, almost during his whole political ,ire, in older to ascertain the sincere disposition of I life, in the possession of great and lucrative offices. .he Government, which supported its appointment, IHe has been Solicitor and Attor ne y -General ; he and the purity of condua which distingui.hed the was in place during the whole art Lard Sidin-,uth's Hon. Gentleman who was placed at lei head. The 1 Administration; a Nobleman. who, in a pal-en ema object of the Hon. Gentleman's attack was the ' thesis, I will say, was, from his see vices in that increase which it was thought advisable to give to I Chair, entitled to a permanent provision, but had the salary of my Right Hon. Friend (Mr. T. proufiy rejeeted this uffic^ of the Duchy for life, Grenville), as the late First Lord of the Admiralty. I because he considered it an infringement of the Whoever was acquainted with the important and Prerogative of the King. Duriag the Administta ardnuas duties of that ostensible situation. would 1 tion of Mr. Putt, the Learned Gentleman contimied readily perceive that there was not any office un lin place. It then, I ask, the long possession of der the Crown, where the remuneration was so in- lucrative offices to be considered a sufficient recom. competent to the wilds performed. Such an esta- mendation for conferring on a Minister a great si. blishMent should be sepreted in a correspondent tuat!o3 of emolument, for lite, in ender that he manner; it should afford an opportunity to the head should be bribed into the acceptance of a high , dig- , of that department. of giving a hospitable reception 1 nifielf, and iesponsible station? ( Hear ! he ar ! Fits'") to those gallant officers who had signalised them Is it because the chill air of the opposition side of - employed in the naval the' 1-tetiase has had for the last year such an Mit do the fungi tend health Of the Learned Gentleman. that be is not now to be induced to migrate to the . cheathil, warm, and enviable region of the Treasury ittucht,a dm/ bat i f *vrithoot. a settled bbiguin ne bribe' for his dealer' of situation ? (Nur ! tar I) iStalely it argues e litsit of pernuintemy is kurvillcial existence of his Honourable Friends and Colleagues (Hear! bear). And, When some of them speak of the toss the country would sustain, from the want of his exertions in thee office, and of the inzapability to provide a person equally proper for the situation, them most be s radical want of talent and ability in the Administration, which could piss so poor a panegyric oh themselves. Indeed, Su, however is % norane'l must he of the neneber of unspun Astor- . neys and Solicitors-general, and of unworked Masi ten of the Rorie, the sew Ministry comprehended, I most strongly believed that it was swarming with Chancellors of the Excherer : (rontinsfed kiesh . mg ; cries of 'hear ! hear ! ) For, when my Nettle Friend near me proposed his system of Finance, a system to which I gave my warmest support, convinced, in the critical and arduous contest in which we are engaged, that, if we failed, Ali was lost, but that, if we succeeded, we left to our children and posterity every thing which was truly valuable, with such an opinion I hailed the introduetinn of that systemweich guarded against the only real danger nom •ly, a dejedlen ant apathy of the people. arising from the pressure at public burdens, by ass accumulation of public demands and increasing Ligation; but, l say, this plan was 11') sooner proposed. than the House was every day beset by a crowd of financiers, each with Lis string of reaelneons, resembling Jews, with bare kets strapped to their shoulders, impeding the pass ing travellers with their intreaeweAceemeseeis thews as their goods were much better. (The House was dross convulsed with laaghtee). An Honourable General (Sir James Pulteney), fan. whent I die certain a sincere regard, had . aloe propose& his scheme of finance, and, as be as it was peculiarly plain sad intelligiblrtit am rather astonished, that he was riot seleeted foe the, Chancellor of the Exchequer; (bear ! Aetna or, as they preferred a lawyer for that impertisee situation, they might surely have conferred ups-. . the gallant General, the face of Attorney Gee,: ral. (Co/tressed lareetena). With respeet to the great and laborinns duties of the Chanitellor of the Ere I theseier, I arts inclined to a 'different opinion. do think it requires but a knowledge of t vulgar rules of arithmetic, with no small share of plausibility; (e - ) ; and, from the repeated , specistent of the Hon. Gentlemen opposite, I woe induced to think it art absolute drug in the Milne terial market. (Heir i heir !) Bni, seriously, e age impressed with this strong conviction, that qa pin lumpy or nelirepieseurreen, or device, will tsar from the public opinion, the high chareeter enter tained by the people, of His Majesty's late Millis. ters ; the cherefter, I say, of retiring from office, without granting to themselves or friends one single place for lite ; contrasted as such condua most tio with the eels of those who are unable to make op an Adnietistration, without offering to their adhe rents the bribes of sinecures for life, to induce their acceptance of !Vltnisterill responsible sitnations." Mr. JOIINSTONE cow to explain; he never did employ the Hneourable Gentleman as any bearer of a message foam hen, es he knew he was barely engaged in negeciating for himself and family ; and if he was not so employed, probably ne would have torgottea it. He certainly did express a wish to tie usefully employed, bet rot with any view to she • salary oremolentent which might accrue. Mr. SHERI') AN replied, that souse want ton 'icy, others are .grated by ambition; at all events, the II moerable Gentleman looked for a Alcoa firm die Lite Minitry. For himself, he could assure the Bogie, that a dear departed friend (Mr. Fox) ex preened a with to give so him some permanent pro. vision. after what he was pleased to state 27 years services; • bat that when he understoad the late Administration came to the honourable determina tion of making no such grants, he (Mr. Sheridan) beseeched that dear friend not to make him an ex ception to that general rule. Mr. SIMEON proceeded, amidst a general call for the question, to express his dissent hone the mottem. Mr. FULLER did not approve of such grants ge nerally, he would rezierimeod to the King to keep the key of the oat chest, and deal them out gradually to them. They would not serve him longer than he continued to supply tt em. Bust he still thought the merits of the lion. Gentleman fully as great as those of Lord Ashbnema. He had uniformly sup• ported the politics of Mr. Putt, who, with George the Third and Nelson, were the Seviouis of the Civilised world. As to tee cent of the Right Hun. Gentleman, (fir :thered tn), that we go out so and so," the truth wey they were literally shored Mr. WILIetetFORCE wished that all party and personal consid ireeons would yield to the critical circumstances of the time. He disliked the spirit of recrimination, to which, io the discussion of the merits of a measure, many Gentlemen were so fond of resorting. On the present motion. he should vote for the address, because he felt the danger of making precedents for a similar praßice. Toe MASTER of the ROLLS catered folly into ate metes tit the motion, he thought it mach too general, it called for decision previous to inves tigation. It would have been, in his opinion, much m Ire preferable to have salvo it up at another tune, rather than the present, when His Majesty was en gaged is the undisputed exercise of his Prerogative. ['here never has been any general rule laid down on the 'diem/ of such a disposal of the office. The precedent of Mr. Burke's motion could not apply, as it only restrained the exercise of the pram peeve. within a given time ; and thus by implication , admitting its complete revival after that interval had elapsed It did not deny the abstraft right of the Crown to make such grants, but did not think it right to make such a grant, whiist an eaemination was pending. Some Hon. Gentlemen had argued, that, gee* such a place for fife, trenched upon the just influence of the Crown ; but they wholly forgot that the present Motion invaded the right of &tinny' and determination, which the King undoubtedly possessed. is the exercise of his Prelogatere. He •espreesed himself unwilling to enter into any per weal considerations; but he thought it wrong, at , •this inisinekt, to impose upon His Majesty such a restraint. It did not come :commended from the Committee of Filmset, of whose labours and in quiries so noels hod been said is tho course of the debate. Lord EIOWICK said, it had ant been his jam. tion. ori!!istells, in trouble the kleuse with any ob servations opus Los present (within ; but, from . -~ t 1 what WWI some Hon. Members, in the course of the Atisto, he felt himself personally called upon to amerer some of their observations. The Right Hon. and Learned Gendemin. who gra. last. did net segue this question upon any particular, astound; ban, in raking a general view of it, he said, that, by this measure, th- Roue would impose a general linsitatioa to the Prerogative of the Crown. But be should consider what was the nature of the present motion ; it was that His Majesty should not grant any place, which was hiiherto held during pleasure, for life; and his Lordship appre hended it to be true, that in the dispotal of al; an cient places, the Crown had not the power to gram for life, those winch only had been held during pleasure. This was the precise and clear meanie,' of the presnit motion ; for he did not apprehend it was within the Prerogative of the Crown to grant places for life. which had been so held only during pleasure ; for, it the King had the power to grant the Chancell aship of the Duchy of Lancaster for life, why not grant the Chancellorship of the Ex. chequer. the otFrc of Lord High Chanoellew of Lagland. or any other situation coder the Lawn, in the sante way. His Lordship found it laid down by Lord Coke, when adverting so a simi lar grant made to Cardinal %Volley, that such a place moat be held maid, became tae grant of an ancient ojfice owl % eat be altered. lite r therefore. consillepsktkineelted ass woe mew stitutional, nor failed - arm Motion thee seder dise t war, *1 the Prerogative of the Crown, His Majesty ti adhere, to those principles whiels 114 been uniformly observed in such cases. The Gen / thesestapos the other side had adverted to the mad or Lord Ashburton as' a precedent ; but this melt war the sabkd of great discussion and debate n end as Hon. Member was Midland to make it thenathjell of a specific motion. And upon this ceas hit Lori- . ship entertained considerable doubt, that sass was a legal grant. A Noble Lased, the blare* of t dns, 'was seestiwz.preeedellt zi having remite4 mu* iipamot Efoble Lord s from his known dud; and from the high rested he ever eassmala4 • fewness, he could not he supposed to rnena sy *ass dation upon him ; but that ales was a groat hir did not altogether aptness* of and, &orators. itt Althea instances, &mind as they Tithe base the palest question, he did not think they were legally or oonstitutionally grassed. The Hon. soli Learned Gentleman (Mr. Montague) had said, it had been usaal to grant to persons who leave a legal profession, is pause penned ohjente, some remune ration for the loss of their Mrofellawind entekintentm but he knew of no instance where a plate had Wee granted for life, as an inducement to quit any peed:. miler profession, in ord.' to accept of a high and tar cretin situation. He not iissateimast into any comparison between the night Hon. and Learned Gentleman ( att. P'ereeval), and Mr. Denning 4 he had a great respell for his talents and abiredes a but if the House were to avail themselves of Isis services, and in Mated of his being Cnancettor of the Embalm*: he had been appointed Lord High Chancellor. there was no man who could entes tain a higher opinion of his legal charade! than himself ; bse could there be- any thing owe In4likaY. in his juignient, than the pr.. sent appointment; he LMr. P.) was almost the only person not known to that Hesse. ma the sinned of finance ; but if he chose to take the career of polities, instead rf his career of the law. he should also 'eke its chances along with it; and it was a most eztraordinnry fad, that among all the Gentlemen at the opposite side of the House. who bad ptofessed themselves conversant with the subjeft of finance, not one was to be found to fell the office of Chancellor of the Exchequer. unless th, L:hancellorship of the Duchy of Lineages was held out to him as an induceorent. His Lordship'{ only object for rising was to answer the observations of the Hon. and Learned Geoileman. and he tell what he had said:upos the guinea wit: little mote than repetition ; he, however, toot that opportunity to state, that a reversionary grant had come iate his power within the last week, but he did not dies porn of it ; and with Tensed to se reversal ni in the gift of the Lord Chancellor. be begged leave to ob. serve, that reversions in the law were mole properly private property than any thing else ; and the case of the Lord Chancellor, granting a reversionary place to the person who had formerly been his Clerk, was no more than a compensation to an individual in one way, for a loss he had set tainted in another. But the most widens reason his Lordship had for trespass's& upon the *war, was upon the observations made upon the im propriety of his giving . notice for tonporrow. of an explanation of the circumstance* which caused the change in the Administration, in the absence of those persons who might be best alsle to meet it. He was exceedingly sorry to do so in their absence, but he could :sot give that notice sooner, nor could he permit the holidays to pass over. nor suffer misrepresentations to go forth to the pub lic, which he was well aware would be otbersena the case. All he wished was, an opportunity to i y the whole circumstances before tb.t mouse and tl e eorlotry at large; the more enncially as those mi presentations and minatementi were dat:y publistre s as he should prove. by having read this morning letter in a newspaper. quoting words entered in his Cabinet Minutes, which could only be known to pet. sons belonging to that situation, and who, his Lot& ship was convinced, must have seen those Minutes. When rich a quotation war made use of. and such a discussion as the pre.ent followed, when there welt such false statements, he would ask, vrlether it was most consistent with toe established custom of that House to come forward in a constitutional manner; or would the House have had him meanly to attack the writer of &at ritewspaper cry if Lear hear ) It was impossible for him to have 1:8ed otherwise than he had done t and his only wish was that his conduft should cosh: fairly before the world In conclusion, the Noble I.ord declared his most cor dial assent to the %loticn. Mr. rURGES BOURNE, in explanation. wholly disclaimed any Knowledge of th e letter al luded to. Calomel GRAHAM said, that however he bad supported the measuresof Mr.Pitns government, and, itannendent of general arguments, and his with to avoid any interference, yet, from the meaner in which the late Ministers were dismisred barna dim , I. - k selves, and were attively employe; in the naval service of their country. The increase to the Sat Lary did uske place in the most open. &Arnow. ledges!. and parliaoaentary manner, and it W4 l to be ascertained by the papers laid on the table of the House, Mc Honaniable Pendensan mast have Imown that the increaser to she salary a thq s only supported his attacks against which h4ve been adverted to as use only prectueuss Friends, by asking, what are the in- in which the appoiutmeat to the Duchy ot Laucas- tare displayed of their spirit of re- ter *ere secured for the lives ot the grantees, I nd their Aversion to a prodigal capon— am sere they will, on examinations be bound totally pub 4 money ? I ask that Hots. dissimPar t tam the grata uqw 'opposed to be to le instance phete th4y have coutemplation. tu Leek's's', after a luag ea- t e laudable Principles of statiosali My* 41 ithr 'rival, 6 1 elevated to a where the slightest disposition was Peerago. eett hat items jest and 'Ma- he late servants of the Crown to tioned usage of 'bit cour,try, to, rd to peesnas ources, or to increase the public bur- elevated to that toga anal . .oupottant rat.k, a peso- I cry .J Rear 1 I) Have they not, glary support, corre:pon.ient with its dignity. • - - I