The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-05-03 00:00:00

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The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said, that he cer tainly had been more. fortunate than the Noble Lord op petite in seeing the Lord Advocate in his place in that holm ; and he was sure, that had the Noble Lord used half the diligence in preparing a note for the Noble Lord, that he had in snaking his lamentation, he would have had die satisfaction of finding him at his post that evening. Nothing, however, could be more fair than the conduct of the Noble Ler,l in refraining Irons .1 w snaking the observations lie otherwise would ha►e made; hut he must observe, that it was no wonder there was no opportunity to address the Learned Lord, except at four o'clock ana at midnight, considering the business the House went through in the intermediate space. The pe tition was ordered to be laid on the table. MARRIAGE ACT. Dr. PHILLIMORii;;;I;tTerias motion on the Mar riage Amendment Bill from to-morrow, to Wednesday, the tith of May. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY laid nn the talkie varioes Returns, sheering the expense of the Di. phrenetic Service of the country, from the year 1791 to 1321. Mr. CREEVEY gave notice, that he would move en Thursday. the CM inst , for thi repeal of the Hill ;rasped in the year 1817, denominated the Ministerial Pension Hill. fill Al. Lord NORHANBY said, that if he rose with less eat. ba rrrrr wont this time than he bad felt when he before brought forward the same question, it was not bezause he presumed aim the full measure of indulgence he then received from the house. Nor was it because he Lad only to repeat the same dry and somewhat tedious matter of economical detail. If be had only to retrace j his footsteps, he would not trespass further upon the time of the house than to make his motion. But he felt ! that he bad new a greater claim upon the attention of the house, and he felt that be derived it not from the sop port he before received, but from the conduct of those who had opposed him. it was the arguments they bad used in opposing him, and not those employed by him seif that had rendered the subject a theme of animal- 1 version from one end of the country to the other, and j caused the people to look with scrutinizing regard into the comity!' of their representatives. It was to them therefore that he owed gratitude for any increased ex. relation of success. 'lt was to the course they had pr owl in not condescending to notice the details upon which he had argued the uselessness of the office. He considered that his chief gratitnile was due to them for having opposed his motion only on the ground of its heiag uecessary to keep up melees offices. He called upon the house to weigh well the detrimental cense earners of such a doctrine as this being acted upon. Let them look hock at the long line of spectral *Lento's's, which like the progeny of Bangui, were then conjured up, "to abew the eye, and grieve the heart." Let the Secretaries to the Treasury 1..r.k on this till their eyes cracked, and let these sel.o supported his Majesty's Ministers stop with their r: garde fell upon this. Amongst the arguments used, antivity of the office was brought forward as one of the reasons for respecting it. Ile confessed that whets he looked at the Act of Queen Anise which re- Lord to this subject, the antiquity of the office appeared to him problematic. Another argument pit forward was, the increase of business in the Postaiffice. .This might be a reason far increasing the number of clerks, but surely none for keeping op two noblemen, who took , r.o part in the increasing business. Fern, if they were provoked to take a part In it, notlitng would be more d •trintental in the tiezails of an .office which, of all others, required singleness of purpose, and uniformity ui Governomait. These were the the argninetits used against him. As for the declamation of the Noble blarquess, whose warmth on that occasion wa s , as was 11,911, directed more to the closeness of the division, than the merits of the question. His being called a rash innovator—an abettor of revolution—had, no doubt, its effect at the time. But it was rather extraor dinary that he had the Noble Marquess himself among the number of the innovators. Ile hail sent Lord Clan• arty abroad at the time he held his situation of Post master-tieneral. He (Lord Normanhy), however, did not charge this upon the Noble Lord as a rash innova tion ; for he believed lie did not know at the time what lie was doing. Ile dill not know at this time that lie ever had been Postmaster4eneral in England, sisal he contradicted it across the table. How those Gentlemen who supported the Bill of ISM for the abolition of useless offices, could oppose his motion he knew not.— At that time advocates had been found for almost all the other situations which had been attacked, but no one was found to defend joint Postmaaters•tieneral. If his motion met with the sanction of the House, one of the Postmasters-General of Ireland most certainly go. Be fore he attacked the strong bold of his opponents on the Treasury Bench, lie would address a few words to those who had shewn a disposition to waver in their bigutted attachment to his Majesty's Ministers, on the occasion of the motion of his Hon. Friend, relative to the Lords of the Admiralty. He entreated them not to be led away by the attempt which bad been made to place him im the light of a dangerous revolutionist. It spite of the mighty State Paper which had endeavoured to effect this metamorphosis, he defied them to magnify so hum ble an individual WS himself, sa as to deserve to he ranked in the imaginary trio whose terrible renown was to work such wonders. Ile entreated them to let this ques tion stand apart from all such considerations, on its own merits Let them regard his motion as an innovation only in the light in which the motion relative to the 'Aids of the Admiralty had been considered. Let it meet the same fate and he should be satisfied. It had beets discovered that the system which defied innova tion, could just spare two Lords of the Admiralty.— Might not a similar discovery be made by the same par ties in the case of the Postmasters•lieneral ? The yule lie opinion had been so strongly expressed on the sub. jest, that he had no doubt of the ultimate success of his motion. The country, it must be allowed by all, was in a state to reqnire all the retrenchment that could possibly be effected in the public expenditure, and cer tainly after the shifts and expedients proposed by the Noble Marquess, the other night, they must see that the only salvation was to be derived from that source.— They were the simile and the expedients of an exhausted spendthrift. All that lie asked was, if among their luxuries, they had any duplicates, to give up one to the distresses of those who were dependent on them. It had been urged that the improvement of the people ought to operate as a check on the improvement of the tiovernment. This had come from a quarter, which hi' was, however, disposed to view in -a favourable light, from the affection he bore the isdividnel who had pro mulgated it. this Right Honourable Friend had made an explanation, but in his opinion it was a repetition 01 what be had before said. Ile knew that be bad put foe -ward the opinion of Government. Nobody ever ac cused him of entertaining such an opinion bitnself.— Mad be not remarked the disposition which the conduct - 1 THE of the thwernment had created is the people t* oars. their measures, and taus it a thaw for keeplagsp oM less places that the intelligeboe of the people had callad up a jealousy of-the tiovernutent ?- Theory IV , refers, was no longer 1114.81 or partial ; and was it the way to remedy that aril, if one it were, by denying to give up any thing ? Ought they sot rather to teach the people to be moderate, by being•moderate theruselyes? It car. tainly was not the way to oppose that which was right. By skilful management they might be able to direct that, the force of which would only be aggravated by rttemplilit to chock tip the passage with useless obits tits. To persist in such a course would only destroy the lingPriox hopes of the people, and entirely deprive them of all confiden.e in that Bosse. The Noble Lord concluded by moving—" An humble Address to his Majesty, representing that his faithful Commons, relying ' on his most gracious answers to former addresses of the House, of his desire to concur in all measures of eco nomy tibial the exigencies of the times might require by making such redactions in the civil departments of the State, as should seem eligible, most humbly re quests lie will be graciously pleased to order the office of oce of the Postmasters General to be abolished, in order that the salary may be saved to the public." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that be trusted the British public would ever judge with nation of the proceedings of that House; and that' Parliament would pursue its course of propriety, usin tinenced by any apprehension of public opinion. He hoped that it would ever decide on a fair investigatioa of each question, and not by an anxiety to secure mem popularity. He complained that appeafa of that nature were too trequently brought before the House. end mix ed up with many questions most unnecessarily. Though the Noble Lord had, by varying the terms of Lis motion, complied with the regulation of the House, it was not fair to bring before it, In the same Session, a question which had been disposed of. If such a practice was to prevail, it would retard the business of the House, and interrupt the progress of the boldness essential to the country. The Noble Lord had carefully abstained from entering into the actual merits of the question be had brought forward.—(Hear.)—Me had avoided repeating the arguments which had been advanced before, and which were so ably refined—Meer, bear)—and applied himself wholly to declamation on the iafinente of the Crown. Bolls the Postmasters General were jointly re sponsible for the duties of their office. He could not think it right to place under the control of one person ao ochre which received two millions of gross revenue annually. However high the rank or the character of that individual might be, be could not agree to have such an office placed under Isis single control. It was one of such extensive detail—he might say, nth great machinery—that it resembled an immunise manufactory. It could not be placed with security under a single au thority. The question was before the Committee of 1797, and they then rejected it. It was merely if the office should fie intrusted to the care of four or five gen tlemen of inferior rank, or two Noblemen of high dig nity. He considered there were many sound reasons to prefer the present arribgerneet. The qnestion at that moment could not be decided without peculiar 'emigre ofenee. as there was an inquiry now in progress into all tie details of the business of the Post Office. When the result was laid before the House, they would have a much better opportunity of judging on the question than at present. The subject hod engaged the peculiar attention of the Treasury. He trusted that they would not undertake to decide the question until that inform- Lion was laid before them. 11r. BANKES said that the examination alluded to could only affect the question of the details of the Post office, and not the management of the highest depart ment. The Committee of 1797 hail referred it to the House to pat the office under the contrast of a Beard similar to the Boards of other departments. Lord Col chester Lad presided at that Committee. From the ex perience be bad of the manner in which the besieges was conducted, be woad be-serry to eras It put iota a more expensive Idea% whist lie considered that of • Board would be. He kk that a coasideruble saving might be made in the principle of the department by carrying the present Motion. He was sot favourable to the )(slat responsibility of this office, or that of any other. Ile recollected the case 3f two persona who were em ployed ii a joint trust as minor storekeepers. One of them became ill, the ether was intrusted with the key; lie robbed the till, and rats away with the money.— (Loud cheers and laagLiag.)—He was very far indeed from imputing, to either of the Noble Lords—(Hear, (tear,) —the possibility of sack an aceldent.—(Hear, bear.) —He only alluded to that case to thew bow absurd the ides of this joint responsibility was. We should admit in that case the same principle as that of the Committee of 1912 and 1913, which regulated the sillic• of the Paymaster-General. Though be did ant se, the late President of the Board of Contrail in the Hesse, yet be saw the present President, whose support he had in 1813, when he bad the honour of making a modes that all sinecure offices should be abolished. He recol lected to have had then also the support of the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and of the Com missioner of the Woods and Forests (Mr. Huakissoa.) Now be asked why any Member who then voted for the abolition of any office not detrimental to the public set vice, should oppose the motion of the Noble Lord? Why should they alter their opinion of what oraeurred in the cinema/Aces of the country sines. whisk should make them shrink from a duty which they thaw Why imperative, or whether the tiemsces of the antra kid since become so prosperous as to render say dimiuntles• of the expeaditure unnecessary? If it were then ad mitted that the exposes of the civil Goverment of the country. and the number of persons employed. should be reduced as low as possible (which he believed was the substance of his motion), he did not know any thing that occurred since that period which 'midst to prevent the same decision now, and on that principle was the present motion entitled to theeopport of the house. The abolition of one of these offices if Post master-General would by no means contravene the mo tion which bad been made last year. This address he conceived to be in accordance with the spirit of that motion, and ought not be brought as an 'moment against the present. If the house did not wish to at., ford an additional argument for reform—if they wished to show that Parliament was adequate, in its pretest constitution, to the performance of its functions, and that it was disposed to sympathise with the pimple. be' did not know an instance in which they had' a better opportunity than by voting for the reduction of the of Though he was not one of those who thought Par liament ought to veer about on every °meths with po pular feeling, and that it was not long before the people gave their assent to those measures which the wisdom of Parliament considered it lit to adopt, yet, when Le saw the present office was a perfect sinecure, he did not think its continuance could be justified on any grounds. I o expressing a wish that all sinecures should be abo lished, he recollected having been asked by a Gentle man what sinecures remained after the reductions that bad taken place ; and he replied. this office of Pat• master-General only. He knew that it had been main tained that no office should be abolished bacons, the in licence of the Crown in that bons* ought to be uphold ; hut to such a principle he could not jive his assent. Even if such a principle were maintained, lbws was no office which could be aholisbed with less &Minnie to the Crown than the office of Postmaster-Gametal. H. heartily recosameoded the consideration of this quests. the 'house. It tram, in his opinion, utterly impossible to defend it, if Parliament showed eny &spastics to adopt pxinEiple,uf -sound economy or A conci4stisg -. * thinkieg. he advecatif the yitisation . rads" Tbstiadd bp.entreeted say of I am Mess who Waal with him in 4112 sod 1813 to vas with him on the e present eicasisi. illr. iIUSKISS(IIW slid that as the Hon. Gentleman to him, siM adlMMlllbsesrable .Friestilq . MS. ra t i z a ri li a e bisiast irr. (and ii 7 . lli ite bet t tr t ifftle n t e o cn vi sa nd ry tea t te o Ilillialli .week apes some of these topics over which he west. Whateverimputation could be thrown upon him, as is of of the Crown, nobs—none could be cast open his Right liestierable Friend. As far as related to himself, be would endeavour to fill up the history of the mea sures which followed the Bills of 1512 sad lsl3. Sy these Bills it was mole aaaaa ed to abolish all sinecurel offices, and provide other recompenses for those whose public services gave them a claim on Government. Is the Committee which sat in 1817 there was a discussion on dower's, which was rather favourable to the office now proposed to be abolished, and also on the power tfr he gives to the Crown to reward otherwise those whom services sodded them to it. Though that Committee recommended the redaction of a great number of offices.l vet it did not recommend the reduction of the office of I Postmaster-General. If this office were suffered to cos thane as a sinecure, it was not suffered to continue inadal vertently, but intentionally, as a part of the prerogative of the Crown: therefore he did not think that these who supported the motions of 1812 and 1813 wets se* Used to support the motion of the Noble Lord; bow-'I ever be did not mess to contend that Parliament bad sot the right to deal with this office as it thought pro- per. but be maintained that it was no proof of ieconsist pcy on the part of the Members who suppeeted the Wills of 1812 and 1813, to oppose the present modes. Is fact, these offices were held, like many ether eases which Gentlemen in that house held, only as remnsen. ties for the duties of awes to which no salaries were attached. This was the case as to the Presi dia of the Board of Trade. If a Parliamentary Slilllion were appointed, it must carry its inquiry to tblsubor , linate offices as well as to the *Sega Post master-General itself. He could say. as far as came within his own knowledge, that the Treasury had not the means adequate to the investigation of all the de. partmests, sad therefore it was necessary to appeal to Parliament for another Bill, wiaich should give powers I adequate to the Investigation of the establishments of all the departments of the revenue, with the exception; of tiro—namely, the Customs, which was already under dip isvestigation of another Commission. though not a italisssestary one, at the bead of which was the Pay insier-General ; and this Commissios had already sala wowed far in its labelers. The second was the Exc ise. which, as it was closely connected with the Customs. it 'was thought better to bays investigated by the same 'Commission. It was his Right Hon. Friesd'a intention is give th is Commission the power of examining into all the Deparissists of the Reweave. The abolition of this office would ease* a great embarrassment to the public Wrier, and Ise thought the Hesse weed(' cossult the isteresesof the public more, if they awaited the resalt of Abs,lespiry et the Parliamentary Committal's which was ear pesdiSe . . Mr. J. SRBRIGHT said that every office should be get rid of which was not essential to the public service,' .The argument adduced by the other side in sepperdsg liie seeessity of this office went to degrade the Hesse mere tbas say he beard since first he had the bumf si 4 dust is it. Mr. H. SU3INER said that be would oppose this motion on the same grounds he opposed it wisest it aims seder the sonsideration of the House before. The Hew Beadsman then alluded to the distress of the country. sod said this was made a pretext by many for attacking the existing institutions of the country. Connty Meet hogs were called covertly to relieve this distress. but really to sow the seeds of disaffection. The consequence of this was, that motions were made every slay to re dace the Revenue of the country. One day a motion was made fur Memo, es another. the offices of the Lords of the Admiralty. were attacked; then some the office of Postmaster-assets', so that it was impossible to tell where Gentlemen would stop. It was because he saw a decided attack made on the Bosom of the cons try that he had given that vote. However anxious for ill possible retrenchment, he would sot be one of those Who lent themselves to embarrass the Government its moments of irritation and excitement. Mr. BRIGHT made some observations in support of the motion. lie differed entirely from the Hon. Member fir Surrey, coasiterieg as he dill that this was precisely the time when every useless and unnecessary office ouglit ill be abolished. There were sufficient . grounils for sanc tioning the present motion, and he meanly hoped it would be carried. The people called upon their Repre sentatives to watch the conduct of Ministers, and re potted them to do their duty. hale. TRESIAYNE followed briefly on the same side. He expressed his surprise, after the pledge which' Wad been gives that all sinecure offices should be done away with, that the office in question should be kept sp. Mr. HUSKISSON explained. Mr. S. WORTLEY vindicated the vote he had gives on a previous occasion in reference to the question. lie had always thought it the greatest delusion to suppose 'that the distresses of the country could be materially re lieved, by the abolition of such offices as that now pro posed to be done away. He deprecated the course poor sued by Hon. Gentlemen on the other side in urging the , abolition of offices, which were essentially necessary to the carrying on of the Government. Nothing could be more repreheesilslc than such a course, at a period when the public mind was in such a state of agitation, esti, therefore, he bad invariably opposed it. llowever, he thought that such an alteration bed taken place in the circumstances of the country, as might render it expo. client to sanction the present motion. He should prefer that the motion should be postponed for the present, in order to give time fur inquiring into the .ec.its et the Office proposed to beeliolished ; but if it was detimminid now to put the question, " Aye" or •• No," as to why. tier there should be one Postmaster-0 1 instead if two, be certaiuly should say " aye."—(Hear, hear.) The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said that ne& witlistandieg all lie had heard, his opinion on this queer Goo remained unaltered. The 'vantage ground claimed by his Hon. Friend (the member for Code Castle) wee by no means tenable. The Noble. Marquess then pen seeded to observe, that the oi ai oo ions given by the Com• sittses of 1505 and 18117 were expressly in his favouron epo abject. Thr Committee of 1807 gave a decided opi ates@ tbat it would not be expedient to intrust the col lection of the revenue to one Postinaster-tleneral nor to a Board. His Right lion Friend had stated the mode which Government bad selected with respect to offices, dm abolition of which might be contemplated. That wide might to prevent all jealousy and silence all cla mour. He was quite at a loss to see what could now Induce his Hon. Friend (the member for Yorkshire) to alter the opinion be bail given on a previous night epos this question. There was nothing to show that clamour was abated in the coentry. Could it be considered as a proof is the affirmative, that the present question was eggs urged with such obstinacy. The Noble Martians bete read an extract from the address moved lest Session by Mr. Betakes, praying " That his Majesty would be graciously pleased to direct au inquiry to be made into the mod* of collecting the public Revenue." In pur seance of that address the Crown made a minute. by which the concedes of the whale of the •Revenue, with , the exception of sae particular branch, .was referred, sot to a Board sewed by the Grown. beta* a Commie sine osier the iniesediate costroul of Parliament. Thee was it not mach better to refer the prong iptestiow to . • .•• , . . 1 that Commission, thsrmembers of which were sw an on their oaths, than for the house to charge itself with de. cidiog npoa it ? If five Commissioaers, acting on the r oaths, should be re...pinion that one Postmaster General was sufficient, it was quite elear that he (the :Marque ss of Londonderry) could not feel himself at liberty to . a• sist upon two, after that deliberate opinioe was given , for in doing so he should comedown to th e h ouse w:tl ,a mill-stoic rotted his neck. Tie Noble Marquess. sh .(r iwcapitulating some argumen's which he had urged Oa a previous night. again contended that the office oeght to 1 -he referred to the Parliamentary Commission, and that with the least possible detay.--(Hear, hear.)—His Lord ship concluded seine farther observations, by pressin g this point upon the attention .t the house. Mr. WILBERFORCE, in a tests of voice not disttn,t ly audible in the gallery, spoke in support of the em boli. He was willing to attribute nothing bet the palest motives to his on. Frieed the Member for York. shire, yet be could by on means agree in the view he •riok of the question. Au Hoo. 11420114 i (Sir Joba SebrigL.; had very properly stated it to be his opinion, that toe question, from the limiter in which It was treated b., 7 Hon. Members on the ether side, assumed a mnebgreatir importance tbao it woald if put simply on its 023 grounds. Whet was meant by saying that the infigeact of the Crown would be injured by the abolition of this office? Did it not mean that this office was given to 4 peruse for so other purpose than to induce that person to vote with Government right or wrong cheers from the Opiosition Beaches.)—lt was War, however, that a person might agree with Gov ernu ,„, because be accepted office, and accept office because 1.• agreed with Goveroment. He deprecated the argaineta which had been urged in support of the office, that its abolition would diminish the influence of Government They onght by all possible means to preserve the cha racter of the House. and endeavour by all just means to secure the wood opinion of the people. Sir F. BLAKE gate his Majesty's Ministers weer credit for what they bad alresaily done in the way of rr trombonist and economy, but lie thought they ought to have done much more. Such motions as the present might to pass with acclamation.—(A laugh.) lir was positive ly convinced that the Hon. Member for Aberd een (M r. Hume), bed done more for Lis country them all the sisters put together—(Cheers.) He made those milts could nut (a loud laugh), or Haley could, would act Doe. It was quite evident that there was no aecessier, whatever, for two Posunesters-fieneral, and the sower one of them was got rid of the better. Lit it was said that it was to support the iuflaence of the Crown that they were to be kept up. Against whom ? Against the House of Commons ? Was there ever so preposterous a proposition ? It was calling upon Hon. Membersto com mit suicide upon their own rights.—(Lenghtu.) Mr. R. MARTIN opposed the motion. Mr. MACDONALD congratulated his Noble Friend (Lord Normanby) oo his having returned to the charge with a spirit, perseverance and talent Web angor a well for his public character. Now that the King's M oister% had had leisure for reflection, and aeopportusitv of collecting the ~pinion of their country friends, be bad felt some callosity to see what new shifting course they "maid adept; and that curiosity bad heat amply gyati li,d by the turn which the debate had taken to night. With the exception of the Member for Surrey, kip hived there was not a single unofficial person who bail ventured to stand up in his piece mad justify the vete which ha intended to give against she motion. The ten* of the Noble Lord (Londonderry) was Indeed cossiders ably subdued, remotion nuttotra ditto Halm! Where was now his bash tone ? Dow bad the mighty fallen Iliac., the last debate on this qaestioni! Humble and beaten, and retiring from his former grated, this mighty champion of the inflators of the Crown, who had owe declared, that without this office it mould be impossible . to carry on the tiorernment of the maestri, was sow ready to refer to certain Commiseionera • vain which bad been already twicaidasided in that boat. it had Isies said that *adios even of the mammy patronage of the Crow, sod taught *is twitched. but it was for the Itousilleasuisioraillether that argument ought to hare weight with the& He would appeal to the Right Hon. Datitlssasta (Mr. F. R. binson), who bad made so strong an appeal on a former occasion, in foveae of the inferior Clerks of his own de partment, whether he could stand up is his place and say, that • second Postmaster-General was necessaro whether hoe could say to those clerks, that they awl be sant adrift, but that a doplicate Posttoarter-G metal we.: ha retained ? He wished also to knew fres she Noble Mareteeer (Londonderry) what Ise mesas by a very fa. vourite phrase, which he had used urn that and many other occasions, " a well understood economy," it re minded him of what Hadibras said of pain— .' Simply, 'tie not had nor good, But merely as 'us nntlerstood." The 11',o. Member then entered into a statement, to show the various sources of influence possessed by the Crown, and concluded with cautioning the house against giving their sanction to the cestinaance of necessary places. with a view to extend that influence. Mr. MONEY contended, that the second postmaster was net a sinecure. He knew, that in the course of the i t 3 Y ea tl r ie Postmaster mot have been read; anti i r t z taste 1 up When e la g e nl h y without l e etru c u o e n i s h l a t w h i r a g a rattewn, tw o warrant from also us r i t ir 9gl e il l e ;l i n e d o rri r P :o m b : o :3ll:l : s eine ll ir l e t ar were patronagert- refer redg of the establishment,—(laugliter, baud. he cc o ld ( one n r i l k o n i t rig tt oneooredn e of t mau l one t e 5i postmasters,l4 L u e r , o ,sy rig h t titan ` d e m t y o i : e t d .o s s e k h rt o t r w u h i le h e di r s l o t l c f o l te at I h n o ra s e e c i s ; ; s ta h al tie oy — l e .f d had been absent from the country ? He believ.st that he was away about two years. and this was a rompletr an swer to the lion. Geotlentan's speech—(loud cries of question, question !) Mr. MONEY was proceeding to speak again, bet was prevented by cries of " spoke, spoke • Lie. MANSFIELD said, be would rather give tel eifillatthetioficia:ourtlease.tiviooproandotimtbAasNna.2n7ls4at t.iodta7oo:o_Cipi:slloitteigr,asanridoercrninil. The House then divided—Ayes, jority against Ministers, 15. The announcement of this loud and prolonged cheering. disposed of, and the house • On the 23l ult. • duel wi twees Capt. Itsyeraft (late goons) and Capt. Woolley met was attended by C. W. latter by Admiral Sot% thies. to this reenntre, originated at The interference of the second, tioo, proving unavailing. tb shots each. Capt. Spencer's Itaycr•ft's ear, bat Inekily jury. The affair was thus termini Lion of all parties. It was mentioned is ear Old age, that the business of the morning, on account of there present. It seems that the Aln gaged another is appear for hits, meat had been forgotten—at on the Beach was coneersed. mes s however, were present I few words in reply. •Ayes,?.l6—Noes,tol — Ma .. majority was received with ig.—The other enters wrre adjourned at 12 u'Lloti. Pill kW% hr at Rainhaw, hi. of the Inniskilling Dra• Spencer, R. N. The fir V. H , ?Le I. The dispute which lea at an amicably in !Anthill :omits to erect a reeoncilip lite parties escliaamed 'a second lire grazed Capt. y dill him no serious in• terminated to the satirise. IW Hailer ' , T ort a few days e Resistors *ca• delayed an !re not beige; an Alderman Alrieretan is tare had es- hi re, by s horn the engage - it least so far as atteridi , l J. Huth the a oraiy Attire- t at tits dianer. 1: k s.! M