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111 t . t it• Mr. t lURST thought thepnly question scas, whe ther that useful ,acrd respeaable body of men, the Magistraes of th e counties, should 'have at their dis cretion to remunerate such as may deserve it. In some places and local jurisdictions the allowance of !.•.. per mile was too much, in others it was too lit tle; and the Magistrates would only compensate those who were entitled to it. Mr. SHAW LEFEV RV. observed, that the ope ration of this Bill would be confined. to England, as In Ireland the allowance to Coroners was awarded by grand juries. He highly complimented the Ma istrates in general, but observed, that there was so great a mass of this kind of discretion thrown upon them already, that they would be very unwilling to be troubled with any more. In the present instance he assured the HOLM, that the consequences of load ing them with this new incumbrance, would be to destroy the harmony and good humour which ought always to be kept up in neighbourhoods. With re sped to the necessity of such increased allowance, be need only mention, that since this Bill had been in agitation, there was a strong contest for Coroners in the county of Nottingham ; and that in similar contests for other counties large sums of money had been offered to Coroners to resign in favour of other candidates. The county rate was already so ex tremely high, and the stock so I:lathe:led, as to be to the people in general, particularly in time of war, - th e ...wee of great, and sometimes ahn-ming dis content. On these grounds he moved a.; an Amend ment, " That the Bill be read a third time On this tla:• six months." Mr. DEvr opposed the Amendment. Either, be said, the office of Coroner was necessary, or it was not. If unnecessary, why abolish it ? and if ne t essary, they, like labourers, were worths- of their bite. The contest alluded to in Nottinghamshire, arose from other circumstances, and he was as sawed that the office was not worth any thing like the moiler expended on it. The House then divided, when the numbers were, Vet the original motion For the amendment ti; Majitity - The Bill Was accordingly lost. SOME-KS' ACUFF 121 LL. The SECRETARY at WAR moved the second reading of this Bill, the °Ned of which was to pre vent discharged soldiers. asking for relief, from be ing taken up as rogecs and vagabonds, some "I them being under the necessity of Applying tor alms in older to enable them to travel home to their friends. By this Bill their discharge would be a security to them for in, 15, or tmo days, as occasion may require, from being so treated. ICIRCITDKRIC:IT 1E1. 9 .T11071. Mr. BRAC.C.F. 'reported from the Committee, appointed to try the Merits of the Elettion for this place, that Patrick Heron, Esq. was not duly eeded, and that J. Montgomery Stuart, Xsq. was duly eleded. YLECTION COMMMETS. •In. J The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, there was a subjed to which he wished, pur suant to his notice of yesterday, to draw the pecu liar attention of the House, for the purpose of being acquainted with their determination. Twenty-five Election Petitions had already been disposed of, and some were at this time under consideration, so that :OW Members had either already sat or were now sit ting in the discharge cf these sluties. There were .50 Members who had not vet taken their seats, and were petitionei against, so that there remained only I SO liable' to serve ; and should the House succeed in obtaining too Committees on ThOrsday next, there would remain no more than 105 Members to supply the ballots. In this situation it remained to be considered whether any serious obstruCtion was likely to come in the sm ay of public business, if they attempted to obtain any more ballots, afterTlmrs day next, during the present Session. In order to obtain the opinion of the House upon this subjeft, he would move, "that the petition for Radnorshire, which stood next after the two on Thursday nest, should be deferred to Thursday, the 2tith May, with a view to have that and the remainder subsequently disposed of, so as not to come on in the present Ses sion. Mr. COOPER said, he could not but ohjea to any measure tending to have such an operation upon detain petitions. The Minister had some time since represented that more petitions were disposed of in the pri.o.nt Session, than had been ever known in any former Session of Parliament. was not a question to be decided by retrospe:ts or prece dents; hut he fancied the number decided in this Ses sion, in proportion to the number of petitions, and the increased number of Members, is more than in the Session of 1;oti-7. The importance of the subjesl 'was such as reguired mature consideration, as fresh delays encourlged the illegal conduit of returning officers, and gave them a power to send Gentlemen to sit fist two Sessions in this llouse, who had not a tittle of right - to it. This was the more grievous, as there appeared in some Members a disposition to punish offences of this nature in a very slight man ner. W.W. WYNNE remarked, that great as was the number of petitions already decided, there yet remained as great a number to be disposed of, and there was reason to expea that more petitions would ise presented before the termination of this Ses s ion, or At the commencement of the next. Mr. FOX obs.l-ved, that the grout number of petitions put off at the tirue i.f the vacation, at least encouraged the idea to be entertained, that a consi 11.rable part, if not all the rcinainder. would. The Right HonAurable Gentleman, fowls his own state zucnt, that there were 1.1.; members re- rnaining %, - ho had not yet Fayed; to these were to he added %% ha had aot hithvrto taken their seats. Perhaps many of the Gentlemen who had served upon Commi tees would, tbr the public accommo- Jackie, be %Ming to forego the exemption given to th e n, through the indulgence oldie House. But he confessed that they would have reason to corn. plain of 5o Merntses heieg alltneed to stay away, mad not partake of these pnintul labours with them. The absentee Gentlemen, and one of them in par trader (Mr. Pittj whom they must all pretty well remember sitting in that /louse, and yet did not t Ake his beat. had no right to exempt themselves rum JI the laborious duties, and ncgled the call ei the !louse. But whatever harthhips those who had already served might have to esom ri.,ta of, it would be better that they s/waild not be ercire.tel (last that besiness tit ssch invent .,Kt should be deferred. They must all be aware Oa 41 vas alwaya.a great reproach tot ht House of WI!, . -4: Commonf, that Members should be arowed to sit in a Parliament two or three years out of the five or six, which generally comprised its duration, who had no right or title to come within its wall s . It would have been much better to have enfereed the call of the /louse; for thotteb it may be said, Where is the necessity - of the call if we have attained our oh jed ?—vet its enfiarcement would have compelled at least some of those Gentlemen so long absent to come and take their chance, and share of their par liameutary duties. (The Minister, be confessed,bad fairly asked for the opinion of the House, and he would state his to be, that under all the present cir cumstances the Motion AMC rather unreasonable. Mr. 1. 11. BROWNE concurred with Mr. For, dug the House ought at least to make an effort to decide some more petitions. They already observed that new petitions came forward in consequence of the abovo decisions that bad been made, and there was a great pi obabilitY that those world multiply upon them. Sooner than defer the remainder so long, he should prefer the enforcement of the call. The CHANCELLOR of the F.XCHEQUER said, the lion. Gent. (Mr. Fox) did him nontore than justice in acknowledgiug that his wish was to ascertain the sense of the House upon the subjea. No one could entertain a more earnest wish than be' did, that the greatest progress possible should be made in those decisions, though he had his appre hensions much inconvenience might aric from it, to the great public business which vet remaiued to be brought forward. Ent us it would be perhaps pru dent at least to make the experiment till the incon venience should be experienced, he would not per sist in his motion. Mr. L. PA.RSONS suggested the propriety of constraining a general attendance, if it could be done be a en-colar letter, itiforming each Member that the call would be positively enforced. The SPEAKER intormA the lion. Baronet, that what he suggested was formerly a parliatuen- Lay pra.Rice,lett discontinued, as being rendered un necessary by the Bill itself. The motion was then withdrawn. The 11.4ise went into a Committee on the East India Volunteer Pill, the report of which was re ceived immediately. On the motion of Mr. SARGENT a new writ was ordered for the borough of CAllington, in the coun ty of Cornwall, in the room of J. J. Fortescue, Esq. who, since his eleaion, accepted the (antern hun dreds. A petition was presented from the cite of \Vex. ford, pra)ing to be included in the Raw 'Hide sill. —Ordered to lie on the Table. Mr. CURRY gave notice of his intention to move, on Monday se'imight, for the several Petitions re •speding Raw Elides, to be referred to a Committee, it the petitioners should be present, and prepared by that time. astics, which Nyasa security to the church and state. He was therefore for the original clause. Mr. WILBERFORCE said, the argument used by his Right Hon. Friend respelling 'Fellows of Col leges and - Education, seemed a misconception ; the question was not whether tutors or fellows should be clergymen, but %%healer they should be beneficed clern. Sr.lll SERJ F.A NT BEST said, the argument of his Honourable and Learned Friend (the Atforriey General). respecting chaplains of the navl, applied equally to other pez..ons, whose services, as men of superior talents, and requiring an enlarged scope for e:ierting them, demanded equal indulgence. — Upon a full review of all the offices specified, be thought proper clergymen should be found to fill them. Mr. DICK INS thought the sentiments of the Right lion. Gentleman (the Attorney General) ex tremely mischievous, when he said thatclergymen were nor necessary to education. He would wish the Hon. Gentleman to compare Oxford or Cam bridge, with the German universities, and see the difference. The ATTORNEY GENERAL, in explanation, said, he thought pluralities a great grievance. He thought the duties may be discharged by persons • not holding benefices. He did not say that ecclesi astics should not be tutors, but he said that it was not necessary that tutors should be beneficed cler gymen. He was clearly of opinion that the discre tion of granting exemption should be vested in the Nshops. Tea: CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the question was nut whether the House had made up its mind that no exemption should be with out leave of the bishops, or on the other part, that no persons could hold those ollicvs who held their be nefices; but whether, in no case, exemption, without consent of the bishops, should take place. Ile thought it would be hard that a person having a liv ing of 50 or 601. should be excluded from doing duty as chaplain in the King's closet, or chaplain of . the forces. He was against die amendment. Mr. DUDLEY RIDER and the ATTORNEY GENERAL explained. 'the SECRETARY at WAR spoke a few words in favour of the chaplain! to the forces. Mr. WILBERFORCE was for lodging the power of exemption entirely with the bishops. Door LAWRENCE said, that clergymen of distin,ftion should fill the sittiation specined in the clause, and he lamented that few of that description came forward on such occasions. This part of the clause was agreed to. Upon the clause for exemptiag Clergymen &lily duty in the British factories abroad from the opera tion of the Bill, an objection was made by Sir Ro bert Buxton ; but upon Sir William Scott stating how extremely difficult it was to procure respeCta ble ministers to officiate in ow- fa dories, even with all the advantages held out to them, the objection was withdrawn, and the clause approved. A conversation continued respelling a variety of othcr exemptions with regard to residence. Upon that which related to the exemption of Chancellors, Vicar-Generals, and Surrogates, the Attorney-Ge neral expressed himself against the principle of ex tending the exemptions. The Committee divided on the motion for those words standing part of the Bill.—Ayes, 47. Noes, I 4.—Majority for the words standing part of the clause, 33. The next part of the clause related to the exemp tion of canons attached to cathedrals. Sir WILLIAM SCOTT supported the exemp tion. Mr. I. H. BROWNE opposed it. After a desultory conversation, the Committee again divided, and the clause was agreed to. Several other clauses were discussed and agreed to. The Chairman then reported Progress ' • and Leave was given that the Committee should sit agail to-morrow. The other Orders of the Day were deferred.—At eleven o'clock the House ad journed. TIXFATRE-Rai?'Al., DRURI - -LinvE. TO-MORROW EVENING nill be perforated s Trag..dy cadet. PlZAItno. pe lt uvi Ns.—.Ataliba, Mr. Powell; R.,11a, Mr. Pope, (hi fir4t Appearance in that Character); 0r....2:mtb0, Mr. Dow too. Cora, Mrs. Young; Fernand.), Ni.ss Smalley. SP ANIA It LI 41...-41iLl roc), %lr. mirryUlere Mr. C. Keinhle ; .111nagen, Arr. Calllnvld; D10:t, Mr. De Camp; I..sCa..m, Mr. Wroughton; Valverde, Mr. Palmer; Centinel, Mr. Ilulland. Nfrs. Powell. To which w:II be ad* '-d, THE MIDNIGHT HOUR. THEATRE-110ra., COVENT-GARDEN. Tills EV ENING; will br preAented a New Comedy called JOHN BULL; Or, AN ENGLISIIVI FIRE-SIDE. ThP iwincip4lChar...'ter% by %tr. Lewit, Mr. Mtnr.iy, Mr. Faireett, Mr. Johnstone, Me. 11. Johnston, Mr. 14;auchaid, Mr. Emery, Mr. Middy, Airs. (Ms's., Mrs. Davenport, and Mrs. 11. Johnston. With a Lyricwl Epiliigu! by Mr. Johnstone. which will he added, PAUL ANI) VIRGINIA. On Satord‘y, joint Rah. After which will be produced a New Nit, c J fincita;tnent, calkd The Fair Fogiti‘es. with N w .t., wiad li it. s. TINS Music cotuposol4.,y Dr. THE BRITISH PRESS. CLERGY REiIDFNCE BILL, Sir W. SCOTT moved the Order of the Day for the House resolving itself into a Committee of the whole I louse on the further consideration of the Clergy Residence Bill. The House in a Committee of the whole House. Several clauses were put and agreed to. On the clause for exempting certain Persons hold ing Beuerices, eho also held the situations of Chap lains to the House of Commons, to the Army or Navy, or being Fellows, Bursars, or Tutors of Col leges, &c. &c. from the operation of the Bill, Mr. DUDLEY RIDER rose and said, that he was entirely of opinion that persons holding ecclesi astical benefices, should not be compelled in every instance to an immediate residence on their bene fices. For there were many occasions, in which men of the most splendid talents would, under such circumstances, be precluded from the most benefi cial exercise of them ; for instance, in the important point of the education of youth, and others equally interesting.. He was, however, not in favour of a clause which went to place the power of exemptiop from residence entirely in the hands of the Legisla ture, tint he wished to have that poser entrusted to the bishops. He had heard the word degradation made use of, but he was confident there were few of the Members of this House, who did not in those times hold some military situation. And he would ask, if they felt themselves degraded by applying to the commander in chief for leave of absence when occasion required it ? Why then should it be consi dered deeradine in clergymen to apply to their o bishops under similar circumstances. Ile therefore moved, that Clixplains of . the !louse of Commons, of the King's Closet, of the Army and Navy, Mi nor Canon:, Prebends, Fellows, Bursars, and lu tors of Colleges, &c. &c. who held Ecclesiastical Be nefices, should be demisted from Residence on re ceiving a Licence to that Purport from each his re. spective Bishop. Sir W. SCOTT observed, that this amendment, if adopted, would give the bishops a power of with holding licences on every occasion, and consequently of giving a negative in every case; he thought it unnecessary, and therefore was against it. The ATTORNEY GEN eItAL said, the ques tion was reduced to this-Whether a person holding two situations, and-discharging the duty of one of them fairly, should be considered as a discharge for the duty of the other? The House should •leteimine which was the preferable duty: For his pan he must consider the residence on Beings had the first claim. As to the discharge of college duties, and other situations recited. it was optional in the clergy to accept or decline such situations. He granted i that the offices of chaplains to the army and navy. to tadories amid ministers *broad, were of the first importance; it did not, however, seem necessary to have rcaors eppeinted to such places. Ilia pal Lice lerlyeconcui red in the sentiment, that the situations of chaplains to the navy should be well tilled ; and it was to this ter, elegance lie attributed the condud of nor sailors, who, in the hour of vifiory, did not fail to recoiled the Hand that led them to it. But there was no necessity for reaors to fill such silica thine He was also of opinion, that the fellows, bursars, and tutors of colleges, may be seleaed from a different description of men with equal advantage. lie was therefore of opinion that no duty was so im portant as a residence on the cure. Mr. WIN 1)14A M said—" We should not com pare duties separately considered. It is true, the eituatiou of bursar of a collage may he filled as well by a layman as an ecclesiastic But we are not only to determine the immediate but remote con sequences. The situation of tutors may be sustained in like manner; bat by adopting this method you go -' to strip our nniveraties of the great advancer they have over thaw of other exaustries, of having the ! education of owl entrusted principally to tecievi- 4 LON DON, WEDNESDAY, MAY 11. Yesterday we received Paris Papers up to the 7th inclusive. With the exception of the Moniteur, which still maintains a cautious silence upon the negociation ; they all notice the st:iy of Lord WHlT wuara at Paris, lifter the period fur which it was Understood he bad Sied his departure frow that city. According tcg the statement of Ministers, his Lordship was to have set out on Wednesday last, in case our ukimanins was not a:c..d.d to without modi- ficatiun or reserve. This circum , tance appears to have been better known in Paris than in Loudon, as some of the papers alluded to, mention it as a general repose., in that city, on Wednesday last, tl at Lord Witrs-: worria was determined to depart on that day. This circunista.nce should teach the gamblers in the . Funds, the superiority of lienei information, if the bargains made upon the ;suing of the Pmelindilaries of Peace, have -not been %Aden: for that purpose. In consequence of his Lordship's determitiatio n to terietin at Paris, the French Funds rose mor e t h an one per cent. 1 7 1 oa Wednesday, the day suppos e ,' to be fixed for that result, they were 53, 30. On 'Thursday they ruse to . ; and on Friday they were sf e 25. Unless it be much more diMcult to set the twitch Funds in motion than our , which it mnst be confessed havenothiegef it &sive I T: eiiteitreleeno this change in the Prench Market three Rot aff o rd A very sanguineprospeet of the contiattenceof Peace.. It was generally known at Paris, that the Engli.h • 'Ambassador had positively determined to quit thet city on a certain day. He afterwards change his mini, and the consequence is, arise in the Faielsof sorje thing better than 1 per Cent. The one case was ntJr ly eqtral to a Declaration of War. The other affords It chance of Peace ; purthe difference between the two ; is so small, as to be only worth atsour 1 pereren . . ()idle immediate point at issue very little that is new has transpired.—The nest. Cosset., we hue derSouid, consented to''our occepatien of M the for a year.. The public, we believe, will not be sur prised to hear that Minister's, _ refleCting' upon the time already exhansted in vain attempts to settle the affairs of that island, aid the time w Lich a pro crtstinating policy had still in reserve, rejected that - proposal as hollow and illusory.- The proposition upon which Lord \\'ntlTne T H thought fit to sus. pond his departure was, we believe, an enlargement of the time, but nut to the full extent demanded by the English Government. We do not pretend to know the precise lin;it of the Fran CONSUL'S con. cession; but there is reason to believe, that. our Mi nisters have returned an answer, that they will not abate a particle of their demand. In the dispo sition of the people of France, and in their interests, we see many reasons to encourage a hope that the FIRST CtiNsVl., orce brought to bend, will yield to the full extent. It happens, however, a little unfortunately, that, on Thursday last, the vary critical hour of the negociation, a Courier arrived at Paris from Victim with an 'account of the rad& catien of the Coecluifter by the EMPLROK ; a cif-- curostance unfortunately calculated to raise the tone of the French Government. Whatever- may be the result, we have reason to believe; that not coir the British Empire, but all Europe, will ap prove the condui of „the E ii h Government.—. Through the whole course of the discussions it will be found to form a contrae in dignity, fairness and moderation, with the G. ver ent of France. His adulators, even in some of the Londonprints, have extolled the reservednes t e impenetrability of BoNeeette re All his t. oughts and wishes were in their opinion as inscrutable as the ways of Pruvi dence. If they were sincere in their homage, what .nest ha their surprise, when they shall learn that this impenetrable politician seldom met Lord Wu -r -%vortex in argument, without betraying himself by his impatience, his intemperance, and his passion_ He should ..ate pt a descent on England with 100,000 men, and if that should fail, he would try another and another, until he should finally succeed, or at all events wear us down with constant alarm. Of this description liAve b, , en the arguments of the F: as r Cu r.st L, in his diplomatic conferences with our Ambassador; arguments pouring along in such a rapid course of blustering violence, that Lord IV it T 1) Rl' n has been often obliged to listen for twenty minutes without an opportunity for interrup. tion.—)n short, if we are to believe the well-authen ticated reports which have reached us, Lord WHIT- Reif might have expeled as much decorum from the Di.v of A L IEILS or DGEZEAR PAC!! A. A Mail arrived yesterday morning from the West. Indies. Private letters, it is reported, bring intelli gence that the whole inhabitants of St. Domingo, of all colours, had become so tired of the vexatious tyranny of the French, as at last to have resolved to get rid of them by any means. In consequence. the report adds. they had united their strength, and at last compelled the French troops to evacuate the island. Orders have been given to the Admiralty to grant not proteaknrs whatever—such is the urgency with which the ships ordered to be commissioned are wanted for the service. Sir SIDNEY SMITH, who arrived in town on Tuesday, set off again yesterda; morning to join his fleet. Lord NELSON had a long audience with the Ad miralty Board yesterday morning, where every thing is activity and bustle; His Majesty's ship Ut rec ht i s arr i ve d at t h e N ore; she left Admiral 'I uottNaoitot;ott cruizing off the Isle of Goree, he having shifted his flag last Wed nesday, from the Utrecht to L'Africaine, in conse quence of some damage received by the former during the late severe gale ; his squadron consisting ' of L'Africaisie, Hjdra, L e d a , ihnhuscade,and Conctuacc,, were all well. A considerable reinforcement of troops is imme diately to be sent out to our West India colonies. The first detachment consists of the Royals, now at Portsmouth. Th e y are to sa i l, with all possible dispatch, on board L'Aigie frigate and the Chic/was, troop-ship. The Sir Edward Hushes East ladiaman, from Bengal, lay-to off Brighton at ten o'clock A. M. on. Saturday ; and landed - 39 passengers, among whom were Colo ne l M.t; A RfLIE, of the 86th regiment ; Caul. PAERICE, M rs. GREY, and one child ; Mrs. CI-ANODE and five children, with a suit a bl e exurn b ex of servants, &c. The whole cif the passengers, within about two hours after their landing, took their dr parture in post-chaises far the metropolis. ... .3 ; rncf • 1 . I IL O.