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GLASGOJV UNIVERSITY. At the election of a Lord Rector for the University of Glasgow in November last, the votes of the Nations were equally divided be tween Mr. Brougham and nir Walter Scott. The decision there fore devoted upon the preceding Lord Rector, and, in virtue of his office, Sir James 31ackintenli on Monday attended a meeting of the Comitia, fur the purpose of giving his vote. The assembly of Students in the Commies Hall was as numerous as on any former occasion, and they received their late Lord Rector with the warmest applause. The Very Reverend Principal MACFARLANE briefly stated the object of the meeting to be in the pursuance of a statute of the Uni vcrnliv. which provided that in ease there was an equality of votes, the former Rector should give the casting vote. Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH rose amid repeated expressions af generous feeling on the part of the Students : Gentlemen—You have heard from the minutes the circumstances which have led to my coming here to-day to perform the duty which is connected with my o ffi ce. By the indulgence of the Very Rev. Principal, and of the Learned and Rev. Professors, I take the liberty of making a few observations before proceeding to give my vote. Fur my own re-election, I ought, in the first place. to re turn you thanks, Gentlemen, heartily and sincerely; and 1 feel pecultar pleasure in having become the channel through which a valuable gift has been bestowed upon the University. The memory of James Watt is greatly honoured, and will receive from the gra titude of his country, and of mankind, the highest respect, while talent and genius continue to be admired. Through me his son has presented a statue of an illustrious father, to be placed in some conspicuous place of this University, in which he imbibed a philo. sophical spirit that has been the means of immortalizing his name. I feel proud, Gentlemen, in being the channel through which this statue has been given, and I trust in God that it is destined to awaken in generations yet unborn, the ambition of multiplying the means of human enjoyment, and of extending the dominion of man over nature. (Applause.) I must also congratulate the University on another singular honour which belong, to it, and of which no other University in Europe can boast ; it is new nearly seventy years since, in the University of Glasgow wastlelivered a clear mid powerful exposition of those great prin. elides of political economy, on which :he welfare and happiness of nations depend—principles that have made their way through prejudice and ignorance into the Councils of Government, and whirls suggest the means of perpetuating the prosperity of our country. (Applause.) Some of the youths before me will feel their minas roused by the mimes of Watt and Smith, and Will, I trust, cherish and suapor4 the honour and the fame which belong to the Unirerity of which .hey arc member,. (Applause.) I wish not to enter into 'the indelicate and invidious task, Gentlemen, of drawing any esaiparison between the two most eminent per. sons that have divided your suffrages. lam not tuflicienly quali fied to make such a comparison : but in truth the eompariron, to be resaniable, must be founded on a resemblance which does not exist in the present case. But although I had the other qualifications requisite, I am free to confess that I possess not impartiality. However the election had turned out, the abject would have re flected honour on your choice; the difficulty lay in the richness of the objects. I should have proceeded in silence to discharge my duty, if I did not think that I might make o• . e or two observa tions on the subject not wholly without use to the younger part of my hearers. (Applause.) The example of an extraordinary veil to the direction of his powers, is lost to the majority of man_ kind ; but the course of his studies, the maxims which regnlate and guide him, and the habits which distinguish his pursuits, may be of great use .13-elk-41to apply themselves to literature or cci. vice. Happy were it to know, and to pursue the course of study and the habits of the gentleman to whom I am about to give a casting vote. His course of study affords no countenance to any of those views nhi eh are apt to slacken the ardour of youths--no countenance to the maxim that any superiority of genius can compensate for arduous labour. No man knows better how to employ his labour to advantage, or is more constant in its em ployment. His mind is powerful and robust ;it can labour lon, and apply intensely, and yet it is ever ready to labour. No maxim is more false, none more inconaistent with our experi. ence, or tends more to produce coxcombs and pigmies in intellect, than that which affirms that intense study is not necessary fur the improvement of natural talent. Ile would say to you, in the ion gusge of one of the most distinguished characters in the ancient world, " Fatebor me in adoleseenua diffisurn meo ingenio quaesisse adjumenta doctrinae."—(Cicero I'ro. L. Murena.) He who used this was no plodder nor drudge. He possessed the richest variety of powers and accomplishments, and he tells you that he distrusted his •natural genius, and sought the aids of knowledge. Mr. Brougham's example (applause) and talent was founded and fos tered not by superficial studies. His naturally strong understand. ing was first exercised on die severer sciences, in which he greatly distinguished himself; and I may assure you of their value, tot only to those who study them with a professional view, but as a system of mental gymnastics. No man ever felt , lilr. Brougham's hostility who did not acknowledge the skill and s a tre of his understanding. His example is well fitted to itaiirgth us against another prevalent fault and vulgar prejudice, that those into who aim at general principles are entitled to neglect accuracy of knowledge. Such men despise the knowledge, the value of which they are ignorant. But by means of the electric ra pidity of his conception, he searches through the intricacies, and sees the whole of a question before other men have looked at the beginning, and in a moment he can turn his undivided attention tol another subject. His most remarkable powers of mind—his emi. nent knowledge and just views of the true interests of this mighty ' empire—his capacity to observe facts the most minute, which would have escaped any other mind—his ability to reduce them to order and method, and of preventing them from oppressing his mind—the nivaeity with which he addresses his audience, and the powerful influence of his eloquence, all conjoin in recommending him as an example fit to mutate and worthy of being admired. (Applause.) Mess agilat riders et magno le co'pore muret. This naturally robust understanding, thus exercised in the severer stu dies, and thus furnished with every sort of useful and accurate knowledge, has not in the least degree disinclined bin, to the culti vation of classical literature. In Scotland we may sometimes look down on studies of the latter kind, and Professors in other coun tries may have looked on our pursuits with a disregard equally un reasonable. Scholars are more excusable in despising the severer studies, than philosophers in despising classical literature; for what is the advantage of philosophy if it does not teach the use of litera ture ? It is, so far, imperfect philosophy. (Applause.) In the multiplicity of his pursuits, as a lawyer and a statesman, the authors of antiquity have ever been his study. Ills genius whispered to him their importance, and he has never failed to listen to •• Those ancients, whose resistless eloquence Wielded at will that fierce democrseie Which shook the arsenal, and fulmined over Greece To Macedon and Artaxerxes' throne."* 'ith singular precision Milton frames to himself eloquence of the highest kind; and the views which he has of its power are of such a sort that they could not be applied even to the eloquence of Cicero. Nothing of ornament or of show, nothing of amuse.- ment or delight, is here ; all is terrible, and urges on to hatile and victory. You hear of resistless eloqueuce which wields at will the fierce democracy, carries terror and dismay to the most distant seat of the tyrant, and guards by its energy Athens and LiOerty. That overwhelming species of eloquence which Mr. Brougnam has cultivated, has been greatly assisted by his study of the great masters of antiquity. With him eloquence is not a matter of parade or of holiday recreation, not even of elegant plea sure and refined delight, hut one of those mighty instruments by wails he could excite the feelings of men, and convince their un demanding, lead them to truth and justice, and root out their pre judices, and conquer their passions. In conclusion, without any derogation from that illustrious person to whom I before alluded, and who knows my admiration of his character, the name of Mr. Brougham may rouse the not less generous ambition of serving our country in public life. (Applause.) I give my casting vote to Henry Brougham, }:sq. Great applause followed this decision, and Mr. Brougham was declared in the usual form to be elected Lord Rector of the Uni versity of Glasgow. • See Paradise Regained, iv. 263-271. Mr. Brougham will attend at Glasgow on Wednesday mat, to be inaugurated as Lord Rector of the Univeristy. Lord Altbort) has abandoned his intention of giving the trial of all actions for debts under 10/. to assessors, to be appointed by the Crown. The jurisdiction will now be given to the Commissioners of the Insolvent Debtors' Court, who think they shall be fully able to discharge this additional duty. This measure will greatly increase the business of the Insolvent Debtors' Court, and be a con s.derable saving of expense to the country, and dispense with much patronage of the Crown. His Lordship is de sirous of bringing in a Bill to this effect immediately after the recess, in order that the experiment may hava a fair trial for one year, at the end of which period the Act under which the:present Insolvent Debtors Court is con stituted (which is also his Lordship's) expires. If the measure shall be found to have succeeded, the two acts will be consolidated into one. The number of persons consi dered entitled to compensation in case the Bill should pass, we understand, is hut small ; the sum required as com pensation money will be about 5,000/.—Evening Paper. THE INTLI:101t OP AratCA.—A letter from Tripoli, of Barbary, of 7th January, says :—" The French traveller, M. J. R. Pub% after traversing Egypt, hasjust arrived at DTlia, provided with a recommendation from Mehemet Ali Pacha, for the Chief of this Regency, and with a letter from M. Drovetti, for the French Consul-General, who Las procured all the necessary means to examine in detail, 4 id in safety, the ancient Cyrenaica, the coasts of the s!.r:cs, and the into ler of the kingdom of Tripoli. The Li.;ish travellers, who have penetrated to Bornou, have lust arrived here. It appears that these travellers have .act with many difficulties, in consequence of the deaths of tir. ()mine , / and Mr. Tool. Mr. Clapperton has penetrated a considerable way into Is:!gritia, and been very successful there. His arrival with Major Denham is announced. i.'l'eret, the youngest of the three travellers, has remained Ineu alone, not having even a Christian servaet with 1.. 111. GLASGOW DINNER to .SIR J. MACKIAVTOSH. On Monday hat a public dinner was given at the Assembly Rooms, in Glasgow, to Sir James Mackintosh, by the Whigs of that town and its vicinity, on the occasion of his presence at the rniversity, to give his casti - g vote for the election of the new Lord Rector. At six o'clock nearly 400 persons sat down to dinner at the As sembly Rooms. Not only the great roes, but the adjoining a-sart mental were filled. An apology was made for Sir James Mack.intosh, who was taken suddenly ill, bat who hoped to attend in the evening. Mr. MAXWELL, M.P. presided, and the principal table was filled by the leading Whigs of Glasgow; among whom were Lord Glenorchy, Sir John Maxwell, Admiral Fleming, Mr. Douglas, &e. In the music gallery were several ladies, and the avenues were thronged with persons who were anxious to get even a passing glance at the company. The used loyal toasts having been drunk, The eiIAIRMAIti rose for the purpose of proposing a toast which had long been justly considered as the nucleus of all their Whig toasts at festivals like this, which were intended to celebrate the progress of civil and religious lihcrty—" The Memory of the Right Honourable Charles James Fox." (Cries of " Ilear.") The memory of Mr. Fox was drunk with every mark of venera tion and respect. Professor MYLNE proposed—" A cordial union and co-operation of all the friends of freedom, for a speedy and substantial reform In the representation or the people." The applause for this toast had hardly ceased, when it was re echoed and increased by the announcement of Sir James Mackin tosh, who entered the room accompanied by Dr. Millar and some other personal acquaintances. Sir James took his seat on the right of the Chair, betraying, however, evident symptoms of indisposi tion. In a few minutes he became overpowered by the heat of the room, and was obliged to support himself with difficulty in his chair. Ilia desire, while so oppressed by indisposition, to acknow ledge the compliment paid to him by the northern Whigs, ..ecured general sympathy. As soon as the applause had subsided.— Lord GLEXOneIIY proposed—" Trial by Jury." The CHAIRMAN then, in a complimentary speech, proposed the health of Sir James Mackintosh, which was drunk with four times four, accompanied with every testimonial of public respect. Sir James Mackintosh was obliged, during the preceding speech of the Chairman, to retire from the room, oppressed by indis position ; and finding himself not recovering in the open air, °to retire alto-ether. accompanied by Dr. Millar. This circum stance, which threw a (lamp upon the meeting, excited much a:- tention and sympathy for the son of Si: James Mackintosh, a very young man, who rove to acknowledge the compliment paid to his father. Mr. Mace's:Toast said. that unexpectedly called upon as he unfortuna.ely found himself, to say a few words in the unforeseen absence of his father, be was sure of gaining the sympathy of the company for the feelings which his father's illness had occasioned. (Loud cries•of " Hear.") But before his father had left the room, ' he had begged of him to express, in his name, that this day, to which he had looked forward as a source of the proudest siciarac. tion, had, by his sudden indisposition, become the cause of much sorrow and disappointment. To be removed from the society of such friends, atter travelling nearly one thousand miles to meet them, they must easily believe was a very mortifying disappoint ment. (Hear.) The very efforts which he had made to attend had brought an accession of indisposition, to which his father was occa. sionally subject. In delicacy it would be unbecoming of him (the son) to speak of the character of his father. (Cheers.) But, hap pily for him, this day was intended to convey a public mark of respect to a public character, and his father's public life was as well known to then, all, as it cultist be supposed to he to himself indivi dually. (Applause.) They had it before them, and they were also better judges than he could pretend to be of its value. (Cheers.) To him it was a proud gratihcation to witness the tribute paid to his father by such a company ; and he could assure them, that if his countrymen felt Sir James Mackintosh to be an honest man, he had his father's injunction for assuring them, that that persuasion alone amply repaid him for all his cares, and amply rewarded hint for all his lahburs. (Renewed cheers.) He would only add, that the illness which now afflicted his father had been acquired in that country (India) to which some years ago be had been sent in a sort of honourable exile, because he ease man not formed to bow down and worship the golden calf. (Reiterated cheers.) Here Mr. 31arkintosh became evidently overpowered by his feel ings, and sat down, after requesting the indulgence of the company, and thanking them for their sympathy. " The Liberty of the Press," " The Chairman," " Success to the Glasgow Mechanics' Institution," " The health of the Hon. Admiral Fleming, and the independent freeholders in the different counties with which be was connected," and " Lord Glenorchy," were the next toasts. _ _ . The Chairman, Admiral Fleming, and Lord Glcnorehy, sevc rallyreturned thanks : . . . . The CHAIRMAN then said, that while they regretted the absence of their noble guest, it was with great satisfaction he stated his de claration that he would be amply repaid for all his labours, in this or any other part of the world, if be had attained the character of an honest msn. He should propose the health of Mr. hlackintoth, and that he might follow the footsteps of his illustrious father to a happy consummation. This toast was drunk with applause. Mr. MACKINTOSH returned thanks. •' The only thing that will prevent me front following the footsteps of my father will be the want of ability—the will shall never do it." •• The /width of Mr. Wallace." . . . - " The revival of the subverted liberties of Spain, Italy, and Por tugal, and the Patriotic Exiles from those countries;" " The University of Glasgow," and " The health of Sir Francis Burdett," were next given. Mr. Douglas being called upon by the Chair, proposed the health of the Scottish laureate of liberty, the author of The Plea. sures cf Ilope. The lion. Gentleman thus concluded an eloquent speech :—The occa.ion of this meeting gave Campbell a peculiar title to be remembered as the proposer of a popular London Uni versity, divested of monkish opinions and habits, where a Swift wnidel not pass for a blockhead (Laughter), DOT a Locke be ex pelled for the soundess of his logic anti his polities—(Applause)— nor another Paley suffer in his promotion for liberality, even with his pliant morality of expediency. (Laughter.) Such a liberal school, supported by the rank, the wealth, the science, and art, which in this busy age of improvement and discovery are coneen. trated in the English metropolis, would enlighten the English mind, stimulate free inquiry, and diffuse liberal opinions. (Great applause.) " The health of the author of The Pkanores of Vote, and success to the London University."—]This speech was tol. lowed by intense and long-continued applause.] " The liberal part of his 31njesty's Ministers, and may they still farther adopt the political principles which their opponents have so long inculcated." The British Constitution, and may it never be suspended by means of spies and informers." " Prosperity or Glasgow." " The President of the United States," with all the honours. " Success to the Greeks." " Earl Grey and the Marquis of Lansdown, and the Whigs of England." " The health of Mr. Hume." " The Duke of Leinster and the Whigs of Ireland." " Earl Fitzwilliam, the intrepid asserter of conatitutional in quiry." " The Universal Abolition of the Slave Trade. " Mr. Cranston° and the Independence of the Scotch Rae." " Mr. Denman and the Independence of the English Bar." `• The Reform of the Criminal Code." " May a pretended regard for religion never be made the cloak of political oppression,' and Lord Holland," were among the toasts which succeeded. Se veral of them were prefaced or followed by speeches suited to the occasion. The Out tt mot withdrew at half-past twelve, and the Meeting soon after broke up, after spending an evening enlivened by the best social feelings. The Glasgow Chronic* of Tuesday says. "Sir James Mackin tosh's indiepositioa has abated this morning, but he is not well enough to be able to go to Edinburgh." CAUTION TO OVERS:CRS.-At the Special Sessions at St. Alban s, for the appointment of Overseers for the year ensuing, two inhabitants of the parish of Redbourn attended for the purpose of objecting to the parish accounts previous to their being allowed by the Magistrates; but it appear ing on investigation that the items objected to were not in troduced in the accounts, the same were allowed and passed. The overseers, however, had intended to deduct the bills they had paid for refreshments provided at parish vestries, &c. amounting to several pounds (which formed the ground of complaint), from the balance to be paid by them to their successors in office ; but they were informed by the Magistrates present, that if they did so, an dan ap peal was made against the account by reason of their being charged, the same would be disallowed, and the Overseers expected to make up the deficiency. Several horses have, within these last ten days, been stolen out of the paddocks of gentlemen, and the stables of the farmers in the county of Lincoln, between Spalding and Spilsby ; some of them very valuable ones ; and such is the systematic plan laid dow i by the depredators, that not the least trace of thcin has been discovered. The weavers of Coventry are full of business. Those who work in the patent looms, earn three to four pounds per week, but those engaged in common old looms do not get more than los. per week—so much for improved ma chinery. The poor-rates at Coventry have fallen from Is. 6tl. to sd. in the pound. CONFESSION OF MUEDER.—A man named Bridgwood, from the neighbourhood of Bilston, has acknowledged him self an accessary with Powell and another man in the late murder of Ann Spencer, at the Gorse cottage. He says that Powell first struck the deceased with a potato-fork upon her entering the house ; but that the other man com pleted the bloody deed. He has already undergone exa mination at IVolverhampton. THE BRITISH PRESS. IRELAND. FURTHER EXTRACT. FROM THE EVIDENCE Or DR. DOYLE, THE BOMAN CATHOLIC BISHOP OF KILDARE AND LEIGH LIM, BEFORE THE COMMITTEE OF THE HOUSE Or LORDS, ON THE STATE OF IRELAND, MARCH 21. Do the Roman Catholic Hierarchy of Ireland acknowledge the Ordination in the Protestant Establishment to he carried on in an uninterrupted succession, as in the Church of Rome I)—The Or dination of the Bishops is one thing, and their Mission or Spiritual Jurisdiction is another thing. We have some doubt with regard to the validity of Ordination of English Bishops of the Establish ment. That doubt does not arise from the manner of Ordination, but it arises with regard to the valid Ordination of one of the Archbishops of Canterbury, I believe 111.0 thew Park er . It Is a matter of fact about which we cannot be well acquainted, and therefore a doubt remains on our minds. Then, as to the Mission which a Bishop, when validly ordained, has or has not, we d o think that no Bishop outside the pale of the Roman Catholic Church has .his due Mission. You are aware, that in the case of a Roman Catholic Clergy. man conforming to the Doctrines of the Protestant Church as established in these countries, he is fully competent to exercise all the functions of a Protestant Clergyman ?—1 know be is, for there never has been apy doubt cast upon the validity of our Ordination. If a Protestant Clergyman were to conform to the doctrines of the Church of Rome, would he be equally competent to perform the functions of th at Chur c h ?--The doubt I hers mentioned, de pending on a matter of fist, would interfere ; and if a Bishop of the Established Church conformer' to ours, we would think it necessary to confer a Consecration upon him under condition, having reference to the matter of fact, and not the mode of Or dination. The doubt you have stated respecting the English Church rests upon a doubt whether there was a direct succession 7—Yes; whe ther the person who undertook to consecrate Dr. Parker really was a Bishop or not. Whether there is not a link wanting in the Episcopal Succes sion?—Yes; but we distinguish the succession of Order from the succession of Spiritual Order or Mission. The succession of Order we would recognize in the Established Church, were it nor for this doubt • but the succession of Mi s sion or Spiritual Jurisdiction, in an Ecclesiastical view, cannot be admitted by us without d:nying the unity of the Catholic Church. The doubt you have stated applies to the Established Church of England ; does any such doubt exist resnecting the Church of Ire land ?—I cannot state that without adverting to the history of that period. lam not aware whether the succession was kept ur in Ireland or not. I believe all the Bishops who were in the country in the time of Mary were deposed, and Bishops sent from this country to take their Sees. As you are aware that the Roman Catholic Laity look for the restoration of certain rights which their ancestors formerly pos sessed, namely Scats in Parliament, dec., do you conceive that the Roman Catliolic Church look for a restoration of similar right exercised by their malcoessore P—Not at all ; we never thought of such a thing. The right of sitting and voting in Parliament is thrived from the baronial title of the Bishop of the Established Church, and not from his Episcopal character; and we would thing it destructive; I would not use a weaker word) that any of our Bishops should be admitted into the Legislative Assembly. It is • thing quite foreign from our thoughts--God forbid it should ever enter into the minds of others. ...... ----- You have said, that you consider the Ecclesiastical Authorities and functions of the Bishops confined to the Church of Rome ? —To the Chinch in communion with the See of Rome; we do not recognize as lawful the mission or jurisdiction of any other Church. Entertaining those tenets, how do you 'conceive that • Roman Catholic Ecclesiastic can recognize and engage for the maintenance of • Protestant Ecclesiastical Establishment ?—I do not see any thing more easy than that ; because the State in which we live has been pleased in its wisdom to establish a certain mode of worship, and to give certain immunities and . privileges to the Clergy of that Establishment. Thus entering into the State as an integral part, why should not we support the State which supports that Establishment? I do not see, certainly, how that interferes at all with our tenets ; but I view it just in that light in which I have placed it before your Lordships. Is Clongowes within your diocese '—lt is. Ilow many Jesuits are established there, and when did they first come there ?—They settled there when I was upon the Continent, so that I cannot tell exactly the year. The number of Jesuits in it—as I believe they are Jesuits in a certain way—l do not know; but I believe there are fourteen Clergymen, who have the care of educating young gentlemen resident there. Do they wear the habit of the Order ?-1 see no distinctive dress about them, except a black cloak, to keep them warm. Are you aware of the proper habit of a Jesuit ?—No, I never saw a Jesuit properly habited. What is the extent of their property there ?—I do not know; they have a very tine house there, but what is the extent of their property I do not know. Do you know from what funds, or by whom the purchase was made ?—I believe the purchase was made by Mr. Denny, who is one of the family ; but the amount of the purchase-money I do not know. Is there any other Jesuit establishment in Ireland ?—There is a small house and Chapel in Hardwicke-street, Dublin, in which two of the Clergymen of Clongowes reside. There is one other, a small one, in the dioceses of Meath. What is the name of it do not recollect. Is there none at Dundalk,-Not that I know of. Nor Blsekrock ?—No. Nor Wexford ?—No. Nor Drumcondra !—No. Nor any where else in Ireland ?—I believe not. Is there not a Seminary or School of Education at Cork ?—There are Schools of the kind in almost all the large towns in Ireland; at Carlow we have a very large one. By what persons are those conducted ?—B the Secular Clergy that of Carlow is conducted. I mean by Secular Clergy, under the Bishop. There are also congregations of Roman Catholics who teach poor children. Those congregations are in several towns in Ireland, but they are not clergymen ; they are merely lay persons associated for the purpose of educating children. Are they under any particular Order P—l do not very well know ; they are of modern institution : they may probably be of some Order ; but I know little of them, for they are not in my dioceses. Are the Jesuits subject to the jurisdiction of any Catholic Bishop —The Jesuits are subject to the jurisdiction of the Roman Catholic Bishops. I know nothing officially of those at Clongowes being Jesuits: they are clergymen, but they can exercise no faculty of clergymen out of their own house, but in consequence of an autho rity derived from me. Do you happen to know whether the Superior of Clongowes, and also of Stoneyhurst College, in Lancashire, attended at Rome at the election of the last Superior of the Order ?—I know that two clergymen of that house at Clongowes did go to Rome about that period, and I do suspect they did assist at such election. What other religious Orders of Alen or Women are established in Ireland P—There are several religious Orders established in Ire land, ar.d have been for several centuries past, such as Franciscans, Augustine., Carmelites, and Dominicans. Do you happen to know the number of religious houses that are of thole Orders do not know ; but there is a considerable num ber of them. There are, as I recollect, six in Dublin, four in Gal way, three in Limerick, and I believe four in Cork ; there are two in Kilkenny, and there are, I believe, three in Drogheda; there is one also in Wexford, and one in several other of the considerable towns in Ireland. Do you distinguish between Monks and Friars P—Monks, pro perly speaking, are persons who live retired, and cultivate grounds ; they may or may not be clergymen ; but Friars are always clergy men now, and live in towns, and share in the Ministry with the Secular Priests. The Dominicans you have spoken of are all Friars ?—Yes. How are they maintained ?—Principally by contributions col lected from the faithful, at the doors of their chapels in towns; and when that is rot sufficient they send out some person from their fa mily into the country to collect alms among the faithful. Many of them, no doubt, have some property in houses or money, which assists in their support. Are there Convents of Nuos also P—There are several Convents of Nuns in Ireland. Are you acquainted with the Ursulinc Convent in Cork ?—No, I am not. Do you happen t, know that they have recently made a tender of thirty thousand pounds for an estate did not hear that. I heard that they had recently purchased some place near Cork, where they have established themselves ; but I did not hear the amount of the purchase money, nor what they might have offered for other property. Do you recollect the Order to which those Nuns belong ?—They are nearly the same as the Friars, with the difference of the Pre sentation Nuns sod Ursuline Nuns. During the time you have known Ireland, have those houses, or the persons inhabiting them, increased or decreased should suppose they have considerably increased. Have they Increased within the last ten years?—The Presenta tion Nuns have existed only a few years. I think the increase has chiefly taken place in that Order, because their object is to educate poor female children ; therefore they are patronized particularly by the Bishops; and their institutions contribute so much to the public good, that persons prefer joining them rather than those other institutions whose immediate object is not that of teaching the poor. Do they attend the hospitals as matter of charity ?—There are two or three convents of them in Dublin, whose institute obliges than to attend the sick. Do the Bishops encourage and promote those establishments ? The establishments of those whose object is to mist in educating the poor they do encourage; but they do not fed equally interested about the others. Do you know whether there are any Jesuits among the Professore of the College of Ilaynooth ?—I am sure there are uot. lam quite certain of that. Are there any Jesuits in Ireland who hare a dispensation from wearing the habit of the Order?—Those pagans whom 1 have mentioned as residing at Clongowes, and one or two in the county of Meath, are the only Jesuits in Ireland; those do not wear any habit of the Order, except a loose cloak and a square cap, which is the saute as we ourselves very often wear. What is the most approved and authentic summary of the creed of the Roman Catholic Church ?—The most approved and au thentic summary of the creed of the Roman Catholic Church will be found in the Decrees of the Council of Trent, and in the Pro fession of Faith by Pope Pius the Fourth. and in what we call the Roman Catechism, or Catechism of the Council of Trent. The latter work, particularly, is perhaps the most authentic summary, • 3 . --~ beeauet in the Carmen of Trent many things are mixed up with the Declarations of Faith; whereas, the Catechism of the Council is confined, I believe, exclusively to matters of faith and tile Council Is confined, I believe 2 exclusively t matters of tgth and in.?als. Is lioesuet's Exposition of the Doctrine of the Roman Catholics considered orthodox?—Yes, quite orthodox ; and we consider it extremely good. There is another that would be exceedingly use ful to read, which is Feron's Rule of Faith. Of what date is that 4—Sometime after the Council of Trent. I mention its utility because he not only expounds what truly are the Catholic tenets, but he also removes a misunderstanding which then subsisted in the minds of many whit regard to those tenets; there is both the tenet itself and the exposition, but in Latin; and it is a work universally admitted as a standard of our doctrine. Are not the Roman Catholics taught that no change whatever has taken place or can take plane in the doctrines of their Church —Yea, that is a tenet of our faith; and it regards, as your Lord ships must have perceived from my many ar:swera, the doctrine or faith- and not the discipline of the Church, which is eternally raising. When Roman Catholics are required to profess their assent to all things declared and found by the Canons of Councils. what Canons are meant 4—The Canons universally received by the Church, or such parrs of them as are received by the Church. The whole of sonny, and parts of others ?—Just so. When crimes, such as murder or treason, are revealed in con fession, is the confessor bound not to disclose that?—He is bound not to disclose it in any case whatever. Has not such disclosure been allowed at Rome?—Never. Not in the case of conspiracy against the Pope p—No. That statement has been made. It is a matter which I have taken pains to ascertain. It is said by Du 7 hou, in his history, that it has been allowed in France would not believe, on the authority of Du Thou, nor any authority whatever, that it could have been allowed; for we hold universally, in the Catholic Church, that the revea li n g o f a ny secrets confined to the Priests in confession is contrary to the law of nature and to the authority of God, in respect of which no Pope or Council can dispense or exercise any authority, unless to enforce such law. Would not such a regulation, were it adopted, defeat its own pur. poses, as far as unconnected with the security of the State, by pre venting the habit of confession on those subjects?—Altogether ; but by laving it as it is the abuse of it is impossible; because when a criminal comes, if he should come, to make known his crime to the Priest, the latter endeavours to dissuade him from it, if not perpetrated, and to repair, if it be done, the injury he has coin nutted, as far as it is in his power. If, however. it were once al lowed to the Priest to reveal the confession, under any circum staneek no criminal would come to him. Would .a Priest think himself justified, in case he received in confeesion a knowledge of an intended crime, to take any measure by which he could prevent the execution of that crime?—No, he cannot; more than the means he uses with the individuals them selves. Could not he warn the person against whom the crime is intended to be committed ?—Pie cannot. We adopt, with regard to the secret confession, an expression of St. Augustin—his Latin is very bad, but it expresses oar sentiment very strongly—" Plus ignorat quod sacerdos a peccatore audit quani quod nescit." Are there not many places in Ireland, ten or twelve, to which the Roman Catholic peasantry are encouraged to make pilgrimages_ where they go to pilgrimage ?—Ycs ; ten or twelve, or more; but I doubt whether they are encouraged to go . on those pilgrimages. We had a Council of Bishops held in the time of the IVhiteboys, I cannot recollect the year, it is by theseevents we count in Ireland, I suppose forty years ago, when our Bishops of the province of Dublin made a decree, prohibiting all pligrimages of that kind, and confining the people in their devotion! to their respective cha pels ; this, however, has not been properly attended to ; but we endeavour to restrain the custom as much as we can. It is hard, however, to root out prejudices. Do not the Parochial Clergy promote it ?—Certainly not, in the province of Leinster. Do they not in the neighbourhood of Lough Dearg ?—Some in the neighbourhood of Lough Dearg do strange things, but Ido not know it. You do not know that there are twenty-four Priests who officiate at two chapels there ?—I do not. I saw it stated in a paper cir culated by a Society of Clergymen in Ireland, who have undertaken to ascertain and make known all the abuses prevailing among the Roman Catholics in Ireland. They have published a periodical work, of which they acnt me the first number; it was by this I first came to the knowledge of there being such chapels, or such at tendants of Priests at Lough Dearg. Are there any images of the Virgin or of Saints which are re garded with peculiar veneration in Ireland ?—I do not know that there are. Are there indulgences granted by the Pope to the persons who have performed their devotions at any particular shrines,—Shrines, I do not know ; but particular churches, yes. Of what nature are those indulgences 7—The nature of an indul gence is a remission of the temporal punishment which may be , supposed to be due to the sin after the guilt is remitted by Almighty God, through the sacrament of penance. What are the particular churches in Ireland to the performances of devotions in which indulgences are annexed ?--I really know of only one in my diocese, that is the parish church or chapel of the parish in which I live. That can be granted only by a Bull of the Pope ?—Only by a Bull of the Pope. Have the parochial clergy in Ireland generally what are called glebe.houses 7—No ; very few of them have glebe-houses. And of all modes of providing for the clergy, none would be so useful to the State, and so truly advantageous to the clergy, as to provide them with comfortable dwellings and very small . glebes. I think that too could be easily effected, if, in the provision for instance, were it ever granted to the clergy, there were so much given to them until a house could be provided for them, and then to have that withdrawn which was allowed for rent of a dwelling. Could that be done by legalising the gift of a house or a tlebe land, to a limited extent, ty persons of ' their own persuasion ?—I think it could be done, and would be done. If such permission were given by law I think we should shortly have many glebe houses in Ireland ; and I know we have lost many we had by the incumbent dying intestate, and his heirs at law seizing on the house, which had been given to him perhaps by the proprietor ; thus it was lost to his successor and to the parish. In some parishes there are glebe-houses 7—There arc in some parishes, but they are held in trust, and the tenure by that means becomes very precarious. They are vested in one, or two, or three persona, and with the right of survivorship ; and very often two of those persons die, and the whole right vests in one, and he dies in testate, and his heirs seize it. If the purchase of a house and glebe-land, to an extent limited by law, were given, and that vested in the Bishop of the diocese, would that be a satisfactory arrangement ?—Yes; I think that would be perfectly satisfactory. %'hat effect has the Burial Ground Act produced, good or bad ? —lt produces a good effect in one sense, because I think Roman Catholics are more cautious not to recite any prayers of any kind whatever, at the time of the burial, if the burial takes place ad. joining a Parish Church ; but in general the Bill has remained a dead letter. Are there any Purgatorian Societies in Dublin P—l am unac quainted with those Societies. They are not countenanced among the Bishops ?—I am not ac quainted with them at all; there may be various things counte nanced by poor tradesmen in Dublin of which I know nothing. Are the miracles of Prince Hohenlohe generally credited in Ire land ?—1 believe they are generally credited. Are they considered by Roman Catholics as evidence of the Divine favour towards that Church 7—l WU personally concerned in one of them: I hare considered that an instance in which the Almighty was pleased to interfere, and show his mercy to the in. dividual who was &Minted. Is it not likewise considered as a proof of the intention of the Almighty to interfere for the recovery of thy Roman Catholic Church from its present state of oppression ?—As a proof that the Almighty has watched over a faithful member of that Church. Have those miracles been acknowledged by the Court of Rome? —The Court of Rome has taken no cognizance of them. The Roman Catholic Bishops in Ireland fcel themselves entitled to receive them as miracles ?—The Bishop in his nan diocese has a right to examine into the fact, and to receive tba miracle If his mind la convinced ; but his declaration in its favour does not bind an one. With respect to all miracles now wrought, the right of private judgment is exercised by every individual seriatim ?—Of course. Till they have been acknowledged by the Head of the Church ? And even then, I think, a declaration of the Head of the Church on a miracle does not bind the faith of any one: it would be irre verent to doubt it ; bit it is a matter on which the Pope and a Cc- , neral Council might be in error. But it is ■ matter in which you believe, and which you would in. eulcate on those you would instruct ?—lt is not a matter I wou!d inculcate, because I think it unnecessary to do so : it is not a mat ter which can form a part of such instruction as we give to the people ; but Ido believe it myself. It is the doctrine of our Church that miracles are wrought in every country, and in every age, when the Almighty may think it necessary to do so for the relief of any of his creatures, who petition him in the spirit of humility and faith. Are you acquainted with the Service for the Sick in the Common Prayer Book of the Established Church ?—Yes. In that Service, where a Protestant applies for the special inter ference of Providence for the relief of the sick person, where no human help can avail, does he appear to you to ask for more than has been granted in your opinion in the case of Prince Ilohenlohe ? Precisely the same ; but in the case of Prince Hohenlohe it was granted in a more special and striking degree. BREACH or PRI VI G E.—thie of our London letters mentions, that it is likely a complaint for breach of privi lege will be brought forward in the House of Commons, immediately on their re-assembling after the recess, against The Dublin Evening Mail, for an irregular publication of the evidence taken before the Select Committee on the State of Ireland.—Dahlin Paper. The Dublin Patriot says—" IVe have heard with much gratification that Mr. Peel has expressed Lis intention to suggest—as being within his department—that the Lord Lieutenant and Privy Council shall not hereafter approve of any gentleman returned for the office of Sheriff for the Corporation of Dublin, who may have given party pledges, or avowed political hostility against any class or his Ma jesty's sub;ects." _ _ ~. ~~ ~,,.. ___ ROME CIRCUIT. . -..,--- KENT ASSIZES, aIAIDIITONZ, THURSDAY, . AWOL 7. Before the LOUD CHIEF BATON and a Special ~I1t7• POOLLY V. PY111:1. This was an action for maliciously, and without any reasonable or probable cause. suing out two several Commissions of tiallk , alit against the pl..intift: The plaintiff's ease was conducted by Mr. Mastrvavv, Comvx, Mr. ADOLPHUS, and Mr. RYLAVD; anJ the de fmdant's by Mr. GURYEY, Mr. Sergeant Tanor, and Mr. CHITTY. The leading features were theft :—The parties respectively car ried on the businesa of coal, corn, and timber merchants, and OCC4I pled premises near to each other. The plaintiff had been longer established in business than the defendant. It was allege/ that the defendant, envying the plaintiff's prosperity, resolved, by suing out an unfounded commission of bankrupt, to effect his ruin, in the expectation that he should acquire the plaintiff"s business and con nection. In the latter part of 1023 there had Leen sonic dealing between them for timber, and the plaintiff became indebted to the defendant to the amount of 1401.. for which a bill of exchange st four months was given. Before the bill became due, the eerendaat, in pursuance of his alleged malicious design of ruining the plaintiff, sued out a commission of bankrupt, but it appearing upon inquiry that the defendant had discounted the Lill with his barkers, siud that it was not in feet in his possession at the time the docket was struck, the commission wan superseded. In order to get rid of the difficulty respecting the petitioning creditor's debt, this dilendant redeemed the bill of exchange from the heads of his barkers, and then sued out a second cominisnion on the same debt. although the bill had not then arrived at maturity. Under this second cant mission the messenger came down to Alaidatone, seised all the plaintiff's effects, and put a cocoplete stop to his bust nese, which at that time appeared to be in a thriving condi tion. The consequences were most serious an they of his aedit and connection. In consequence of the warm remob. 'trances of the plaiatiff's friends, who assured the defendant that he was in perfect solvent circumstances, and that there was no pretence for making hie.i a bankrupt, it was speed that this cononinsion should be superseded, but not in time to prevent the mischief and injury of which the phiintiff now complained. The plaintiff had been put to considerable expense, in superseding both commissions, and proved an actual disbursement of more than 400/. in contesting the muceedings. Under these circutestiteca the action was brought. In order to sustain the two material allegations of malice, and want of probable cause, a considerable body of evidence was given as to both respectively. Proof test given, that the defendant, prior to the suing out of the first com mission, had expressed great envy of the plaintiff's prospetity, and was desirous of gaining an insight into his trade and ccanectioes ; and that after the failure of the first commission, and upon the issuing of the second, he had declared a malignant satisfaction, and used such expressions as these, " d—n the fellow, I have fixed him now, and will stick to him," &c. It was proved that no less than five tenders or offers to pay the bill, before it was due, were made, but refused by the defendant, although on one of the occasions the money was counted ont at bin own request. From the nature of the plaintiff's trade he wan frequently absent front Illaidstone, and in his absence, his business was managed by his wife, who was represented to be an extremely active and intelligent woman, and more conversant with accounts than her husband. About the dine when the commissions were sued out, the plaintiff was from home for • period of several weeks. It was proved that this was occasioned by a trip to Ipswich and London, on busi ness, and to li - ales to attend his mother's death bed. Every day of that period was accounted for, and it was shown that his absence did not arise from any embarrassment in bits circumstances, or • de sire to avoid his creditors. When in London, he was deify seen on the Corn Exchange, and at the Inn, in the Borough, frequented by the Maidstone people. Evidence was also given, that at the very time when the commissions were sued out, he was in perfectly solvent circumstances, and was worth 8,0001. or 0,0001. in property, real and personal. On the part of the defendant the case was that the plaintiff hay. ing left his home at the period above-mentioned, rumours became prevalent that he had gone away to avoid his creditors ; and that the defendant really and honestly believing the rumours to be true, had sued out commissions merely to secure his debt ; that he inquired of the plaintiff's wife whether he would return ; and gave notice that if he did not return within a reasonable time lie must strike a docket. It was proved that on the Bth of December he had an interview with Mrs. Foully and a gentleman named Carter, a mutual friend, and then promised that if she would undertake for her husband's appearance be would send to town and stop the striking of the second docket, for which he had given instructions. That, in consequerce of this arrangement, he went up to town next morning for that purpose, but arrived just five minutes too late, the docket having been struck. Several discarded servants of the plaintiff' were called to prove filet their master's horses were starved, and that he could not get credit for corn to feed diem. One of these persons had been in the defendant's service ever since the bankruptcy. Other persona, many of them common labourers, gave it as their opinion that the plaintiff had no occasion to be sib. net at Ipswich or in London on business, inasmuch as he did not appear to have any business to do. Two or three dishonoured bills of exchange were produced, for the purpose of showing that the plaintiff was in embarrassed circumstances, and not able to pay his way. Upon one of them it appeared that the plaintiff dinpeted his liability, and it turned out that they were all, in point of fact, afterwards paid. Evidence was given in reply, that the plaintiff might have had, credit for corn from several respectable cornchandlers in Maidstone, and that the delay in taking up the bills abovneentioned did not arise from insolvency. The Jury, after retiring for about twenty minutes, found their verdict for the plaintiff—Damages, 6001. When the verdict was announced, a burst of applause resounded ftom every part of the Court. OLD BAILEY SESSIONS, Aran. a OLD COURT. Frederick Morgan, ag;ll7,atiiiiir,was indicted for stealing four yards of woollen cloth, the property of George Blunt. The pripper, it appeared, entered the shop of the prcsecutor between thehours of seven and eight on the 2thit of February, and carried off the cloth; but upon being seen and pursued by the •p -prent`tcc of Blunt, stopped in a door-way a short distance from the house where he was taken, with the cloth concealed under ills coat, one end hanging down upon the ground. The prisoner, in his defence, asserted that he was merely passing on his way to the house of a friend, and that he picket: up the cloth, which had been dropped by a man running away, when the cry of " stop thief" was raised. The street-keeper negatived this defence, by swearing that he bad full twenty minutes before seen the prisoner lurking about the plate, and warned him to be gone. Elr. Justice Paux summed up, and informed the Jury that theft could be no doubt the value of the cloth was much above 40s. The Jury immediately found the prisoner Gailty. The prosecutor recommended the prisoner to mercy. Mr. Justice Padix inquired on what grounds. The prosecutor replied, that he had heard the prisoner's father was an honest and industrious man, and that the prisoner had hitherto borne a good character. Mr. Justice Panic said he would take a note of the recommends^ don, which was evidently dictated by the kindest intention. STEALING IN A DWELLING-HOUSE. Elizabeth Doyle, spinster, aged 21, was indicted foe stealing from the house of George CoMasai, upholsterer, of Cheyne-street, Bedford-square, 29 silver spoons, and various other articles, his property, to the value of 101. The prisoner, it appeared. had been living in the service of Mr. Collinson about a month, when, on the evening of the 27th January, after bringing up tea, she decamped with the articles in question, which had been deposited in a drawer of the prosecutor's bed-mono, and where they had been all seen by the prosecutor's wife at the hour of dinner on the day above-mentioned. In about a fortnight after, information was received that the prisoner was at Kingston upon-Hull, and then in the house of a Mrs. Shaw, with whom she had taken lodgings ; she was at length apprehended. Robert Dawson, the constable at Kitqgston- Hull, proved his having appreh ended' the prisoner, and taken out of the chaff of the bed on which she lay, three parcels of plate, which he produCed, and which Mrs. Collinson identified as her husband's property. The plate, consisting of spoons, wins-funnel, small tankard, forks, due., maned to be fully worth the amount mentioned in the indictment. The prisoner, upon being called upon fbr her defence, put in s written paper, which stated that she had given notice of quitting to her mistress two days before; that she did not know the value of what she had taken; that she took it for the purpose of enabling her to get to Ireland; and that bearing her brother was in Hull. she went there from an anxiety to see him, and that she had no other means of paying the expenses of her journey. The LORD CHIEF JUSTICE summed up, and • The Jury almost immediately found the 'Guilty. The Lox CHIEF JUSTICE called Mre. Collinson up, and asked if she had taken the prisoner without a character? Mrs. Collinson replied, that she had no better character than the recommendation of their porter's wife; but that since the commit 'ion of the theft she had inquired about her in the place where she last lived in Hampstead, and learned that she had lived there for two months, and conducted herself with strict propriety. Mr. Collinson recommended her to mercy on that ground. The LORD CHIEF JUST ICE, after remarking that prosecutote should not strain their consciences by these continual suggestions, but leave these things in the hands of those whose duty it wee to attend to them, and by whom every thing fitting would be done. expressed his intention to take a note of the recommendation. rhe jurisoner, s elecent-looking young woman, trembled exces sively during the trial, and at its conclusion was led away appa rently overwhelmed with emotion. Mary Punchy's, aged 61, was indicted for stealing two pair oi trowsers, value 17e., the property of her employer, Mary Chid! The prisoner , had been employed to work for the prosecutor, sal made noweem for a military clothier, and having privately taken away two pail of trowsers which were brought home finished, was. upon attenipting to sell them in Monniouth-atrett, stopped seal apprehended. up, took occasion to eulogise ia Mr. Justice Pale, in summing strong terms the conduct of the M onmou th - street trader. The Jury found the prisoner Guilty. CUTTING AND MAIMING. Oriaialf. August. a gardener, aged Cti, was indicted under Loot Ellenbotough's Act, for cutting and maiming Thomas Lewis, with intent to kill and murder him. Mr. BRODER ICK shortly stated the case for the preeestket.. Thelon Lewis, the prosecutor, deposed that the plusher 'NW he INlMlNeetalmd.. f— • - - - - - - " - • 0 I r I/ " :t* I ! ~,