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cocci' by 4 /4 " froulit, cogent himself A no wentie4) the ft t.„1!: V t4k.i I '. Ole • - 1011 be never sd4lu%s 'Royal prase tU fed by vote its „rnpigate ,„;lt , bee,tpreputel.hts c suirsciion that there would be no thinessiessal to require correction in any of the offices . isi• the Crain of • Chancery. Sir Samuel Romilly • expressed a contrary opinion, and thought that there filete abuses winch celled for alteration, espe cially in the Master's Office. The Address had • been presented to site Crown in June 1814. Per . fitment sit again in that year before Christmas, and - lie hid moved for • copy of the Comnitssiou, to 5 ieltieblthe reply was, that no such C.uouni-sion was - yet iipticinited. In February 1816, the Commiesion •leart: appointed, and twit-Masters in Chancery were , appointed out of the tive Commissioners. He 1 Vied "nistbiqg lesti Onto that the tudale per ' ibed. 1 e spensting ,of them should •• Tam* *ay of their number from the nes, -*thesis •hiett were to he inquired into. It 4. 4646 •the first Report made its appearance, and. nothing could he less satisfactuiy..• All the ? buses which were painted out in it were still stated to be of necessary cootinualice, nr of difficult removal. None of .the fees were to be abolished, however airrtirmssus; there were too in particular, of 63f:said , YIl.. the first of which was pint to the Chancellor, villich were recommended to be retained, beceu-e they • were not tees but gratuitiee. Tina reminded him of Father Foigard'a distinction between a bribe told a • roifteitien. The Commis:loners made in all four Re -1 t s, and the public bad der i sett no other bt•uefi t from their bilinura. For this there had been expended, be :.iete4 the pry of a secretary and other contingencies, 3;1,0001. wp to Feb4uary .18:0, and there were • b i liliOS. , dttent February list to the lame Commis. ;sonnets. The Right l ion. Geotlentsu proceeded to oeseribe the diameter of the Reports. There hail targets no Report at oil nu the -Exchequer Court, because the COnlinisuoithaltri suited that they had nut Lees able to set ottyandmers. from the chief officers " they had apph tt Whose fault was its* P — *Chef bid iniiple powers given to'compel ottentimou date eumalogedo, said theysbuuld have taken cute to . samba alieir labouse .inuie profitable to the public. The J edges of the Courts of King's Bench and C'prh. ibildrleis, declared in lett e rs doted mil* lest yttir, opt they hail received no cuiennuoictition which 47 40 ji+ any way call davit attention to . the sinter, re subject to be reautiotd into by the •41111111114.ae054 . The told Clair/cello, had the Report 'l ot h, * e lm ever sifiCe,lBlo, and at the end of (we werniortallar twit ihr,le:Lf4 tillow Nit renstsetetieritstigulalsous of barb Came, re euissidert , a empty of /Asian - Sob* t • P ; sae tee of all the tonsposheerf -VC. believe Ms vitas. to have reused that there were fuer senuipsaltors who sawietipoes loomed aetteles as their owe mothunty.) Are there any particular marks to any of the articles, which so being knows t. the coniposiiors would have is. dosed She. to give issertioo to them'-Noe. that I know of. Did yes ever been beluog to soy °Ake of the Ramie kind will Ow Is whieb yea are ow swaged !-At the Traveller - orraZ or i tsie ly ffiesersiaztholisa leaal . i ;NMI epetissort pspostipha wkhirot the peeiskska of years Intl 'v.66; 1111111* - 1 1 14 sal sty mine* ;It .y hest -- -- .- - - V e ynifiliklilliall irAfivl6" — ppeyeree l ow. loisitl.;.leoeik soy-that it sillitileft WIII*III4 rbaseillAt ilt. A Pllthrild owe he lave hoes illiallerbatekdketravaed by ae if 44 yd tars homers do as Is." es/taloa, was* • - aafilearrea amp Pubis to WIN, Irefer haetioekilyaA ?....iii luotaise over Ike paper aka it ease rot olvillorlisklVl drydisitiserreestbleraraidie which werrAitt ehikte,:` hi I othl ushereftbeseela isiektat op the'poper.• - • '' " "' ' .'-• • ' . • Isolipestless ea tboorireareless sake say a* to a 6.. hollyMea•As tazs.lll. ; I Illerrly payer' lug. and kft this. Skim eatively to the Editor. • ..411“. kw paragraphs whirl' Teo have Jam mentioned in. NAM wiliest the liuuslestre or martial of the Vies ? -4•1 1110 1 1 7 wrj peaks*/ ; I have rests to believe that they Were. ravel/ alr. , llarter..wet -,tloArrstaisdiseg Cooper to he the W- ets; is he sole Altaktor, or does he put -ovarebody to seam Mir aressinnally ?--Couper is sole Editor, tsks. he chooses sees. visfeatiarborly s sestet ties skids is not al Otiose! shifty. -.. .4.lllapernapoy Crops voiers ' eld-11 hare Fold his Os oevirral • .-osiers. Vin pito lasi. ortreversopti 1t,,, f-s• Not postittek • • 2illberaibeasse M aseeesaws-bar yea tow over .Coopsi bees or low Y-. 1 itia wallthig iiith Ildt, 'had IS - hlorit ewe 'to .air Wire ll *Aid vtiktels 4 that; wad tedwratd blikbfriari Road. al.: taisokear Owe Were taw alotetorper till" ?I . dou ' t by Mr. Itaanoi.-Does the gables* know if the garde- ? inaoyatiodeta Me whit oar* hie lie tin übt sir evataine . i. cativo with she offtertf•-.741e. Cooper sees to deny permit's • .901 coat eeshotabir their saint* nod I knew the beaters. of very few .f theta. ,• - Dwell" sake% lowa obe ease &bone penes?--I do nul. la it pees Oils dirty of the reader to laulk•st the mai- • sate ocotillo towed the proufitiertl...7l.ernataienpt is Drosses Sills studios boy, sad:the proof sheet is headed to bit onsike.•••be the the rsatiarerlpt reed over by tho Sid- ' thabsiv i cliaessrveinuar sever bee to look at k. • """ lz ' by )1 4 w.lllllllTir -07 whom. art the essonseriptaits• •tu/stie reedivegisop I--By thet . eowwwitors. - so*. tokoesavaftbspiptiat • Sa ibs estaspoltars ?-By tke • $. Meer. . . igneliiiirthlitbriMlNelery "Mid lull lelitiesoslortatty gives . stliStoirgareb .soit r • • r.! .a1.•4 • r 1 - , ~ , ~-, •, 0 5%40 our avow the &SIAM, istasi-OWilhisi we go i • raworhalia b rtreilite roomeekhal 10001.9leotioreat owe to togs" x. 14 4. a. . . . . To the hat of pass knowledge serabelief wield any erre li:•. - Eflthelleillellikireparkostalleve - ft pot ta awe parstropti, is- ' 440 11= 4 1t 4 ssibotrirUnartiee, s tai set i t,, r ...d„,„i t y . ,‘ . gia htallhoneslorsts obey lake des till Are iered.r. . I 1 i . . 1 , a WOOtribia dhows !aline that either of. fisPeanipeelsors • tOirrtlllatilersadripair es their owe ilitlttftly?-1 &kik • SO. a ' l iar Lea Keeseper-Bews the witness mesa to sly be sever reolirosnicated with thi•llditur by setter or owe ?-Alt our I, voenwirstaiitimis are verbal. . . • • MC Os 'SIN 0 arrsaid, that as Members seriatil ,1; ' . • . • ~...i t t i F ir t. ..a.o . di lt it . .l4 ; v t i lf : , ....: 7l : l * e i ti t tn iuts i bl i e :es ; : . H e li...s q a.uzs i 1e should lsi l e i : ;: w il : ii t ti t .a b it o l i t a r re a s - a k ; t : 14: 161:1; 7 4;1 7 41 ,1 1 :l e l w i i e i ni l4l : i le::: 6 . yet I t ',tid equlvoiatiou pt hispgswere, to treat hint very tiouse fifth it; . ' He ohmid like to 'Lave all the ' W I'Vellifisigirturs . 4 likewise, but fur the present lie I : 11 . 01 1 "1 1 / 0 4. 0 psis ns.uierts to those Ito had minted, pith ebeasislition of Mr. Shackle. . -. Tbanswitio were oadere4 to attend forthwith. ' 'CO'aIfIaISSIONERS OF JUDICIAL INQUIRY. Sti7J: ttivvroßT ruse to orbinit leis Lawton on 1 , $ this subiret. Ile remiuded lb. House, that as car • . hoick Ye fahl a motion had been made to sidelrebs the Crows., priyietg for the appointment or a lloyal Commissibri to eiriteine bete the ditties. fees, burs- ' . t..4e-, int! emoluments s.f Courts of Justice its England. The motion which he hued submitted was own-eV by ably owe vote, and was opposed by two of the Cabinet Minister., The casting vote 'wet that of a - Master in Chancery, who felt at I• 6 ' duty td propagate inquiry into the subject, though • •, bi r r.apircuited. We c &eviction that there would be no. thitiewassal to require fearer' ion in any of the o (Beet • :.... ..5... Veutet ni • eillilielifV. Sir Samuel Round' AMA SPIMIt'd hi would wove bet, 4# avert were tw ons o ,rere Mares , ' itt CitalteleYs • 00411111.44,11 m, Pa %trims been compensated with se entaltiostiairse of 1,4001. belittles the payment of a 84641110 1 . ind ..the, enotinweneies, .anioutiting , iii , ffiltA4l ,. in I .30:006L 6000 f. mote twin ,iii 1:68,41 .F e bru l ty l&st to the , souse • .C0u5t00040644 . 1P-- ft was his, intention to follow rap ishiareseletainat with another t descriptive of the.Repens end the dates of their beteg received, surd 'alas Otte •issimirets Sent. , ift to theanplication.of theCotaminionets bribe Lord Chancellor, and the Judges of the King's teittOg' and Catutuon Pleas ; and then he istsnded to cow dude with a rensletiou highly censor .ble to Ike, Secretor/foe/ •Sbite. and the other officers who lotli teen . sit reasisi its to check' the optiOtri# Of." die ; Cotanneeiou Ilik various delays, suet .oeutleted • the whole expensi,aud all the. labours of -liabCossimia. stoners totally unprofitable to abs mobile. ,He moved the fi rst rSsoltitisii." •''''"' -' ". The AriMetrat:Galftfaist.l44llSed the iktisist went of the Cosniniasion. He could eonceive midis sig • ,ass proper a. sopoisiting such pervoent &kg had eXPe timer and knowledge in the bushes, of theoffiets. which were to undergo examination. Ile inaintsii4.l ed tint the fees in Chancery were limited to lliftieir commeuded by hold I laidoicke iu 1743. Ife:iller-, fended the practices in the mimes 000e$ of that , .Court. The House would fired en Wcotopaiimo, that the English Conimissimers hod 'ittorteneiiie WWI the Irish Commissioners. They had made four Reports "on theVonrts of Chancery, Kit i og's 'Broths Ftlf? - • neon Pleas, and ,Fleet Pri-00, emstainto44 486' . gauges, whilst the Reports of the Irish Cillali&F sionertt oily amounted to 400 pipes. %Yids re ,lipect to the Commissimiers, too out of the five were Masters in Chanrrry. Whose knowledge Of '7 the subject under inquiry rendes ed them poe soberly ' fitting for the appoititmeut ; and from tke . clistracter of those individuals, there could not be the slightest ground for the insinutttion that any persona'. turbot appointed for the purpose of sesreiting ithitsm * : 4 7: The Lard Chancelkur hid done is mud' so was iu hit mews. With respect to those officers of Ike Court over whom he. had a control, he had exer cised it, and the officers had attended to it, and what more could be dome? With respect to tnany of the fs es, lie apprehended that persona claiiiiiiig them bad a vested right equal to a freehold, seventh of the situations beiug purchased ; .m 0 it wits.rio ground of complsiut against the lord Chancellor that he I n tl not prOcevoled abruptly.egstitist•those 'persons, when it appeared that he bpd proceeded with the utmost promptitude .•ith those over whom he had a control. The Right Hon. Baronet (Sir John Newport) cout'plitined of the Noble and Learned Lord, as if he had no other duties to per form; but to attend tulle inquiries of this Com mission.. It was sot she duty of she Sectehtty of State to communicate these Reports to the Jtulges I of the Courts of King's Bench and Coinnirm Pltne ; r`by the terms of the Commission itself; the Re wets were to be returned into the Petty Bag '0 e l e, I s and the Secretary of S'aie could lint kits p Cu the Leonard Judges enigklit have had the Iflliortstroin that office. As tio oboes hail been disCoWial 'in the English Courts, the fair inference was; `that • existed, and on the whole it istost appear that the Comminioners had faithlully and lionourablv, and to the utmost of their abilities, rzeouteti tile matters confided to theist; lie should therOote move . , ... the previous question. Mr. ABERCROSIBT said, the charge was, that the Reports had not been communicated ti those whore duty it was to curly them into execution. The Hon. and Learned Gristle:Dan said it was not the duty of the Secretary of State ; but lie conceived a more serious charge could boldly be made aguiust a Government than this, that a great sum of motley had been expended for a given purpose, which pur pose had never been carried into efiect. The Se cretary of State was the person who ultimately com municates with the Judges; 40,000/. has been paid, and after a lapse of two yearn, when his Majesty's Government are asked concerning this serious tie glect. they make au answer similar to the permit whom the House had been that evesoing examining. ' As to the appointment of the Comoonisiotiets. be must say of she Learned Gentlemen who west in it, two more inielligest or upright melt could not have hem selected, but be thought it a misfortune to themselves that they should have been, as it was not possible but observations must he nude on that oponiaitment. lie admitted that it was not imagin .ed by si.y one that there was any complaint against the.Mosters personally. but there were coonolsiots of what was dune in their offices. It appeared to him that the Lord Chancellor hail barely done him shajustice in the Report which be hail made. Mr. B. BATIMMIST said, the Lbw. and Learned Gentlemen was usistakesi. The Secretary of Stine never had communicated the It ports to the Judges, he had is. fact sin more control suer them than t-he lion. and Learned Gesitlemati himself. The Ihjoii. Baronet (Sir John Newport) complaitied of the ex- Tense of this Commiasion, but was there soy enor mity in that ?—// - hear, hear./—,-The Hon. Ilasotiet had. (011ie 00111110 the House with MI aweepitig mo tion. int-Indio g the English, lends, rod Scotch Courts. unit if he now complained of expense, it was pt' his oast seeking, as he (llr. Mahound) be lieved she whole enquiry into the English Courts might have been sinned. Mr. BARING sued, the Right Him. Gentleman's argument assioutited to this, that there was Ho proton whose duly it was to eui iiiii unicate the Reports; to those ...hose duty a was to set upon them. Out he coutesided ;list where a Osumi-atom was granted by his Alajesty on ass /Mdse.* fixes that Slim..., it was the duty 'of Isis Alitjesty's Governinent to at tend to the results. The' hionw might hoe,,,hift.wh from one to the other—from the Serssiary 4.l4itide to Obi 'Pr i I.) , Bog Officar, hot tertionly these oar gross negligence somewhere. With 4'iepect to thi• Comedians's. coneideiing ttr hands in which it - had beau placed, he much frivOled that the at'lielm of Isis Right Hops Fsiostd. (Sir J. Newport) had ever beep asilk o . becomes (Pith all deference t. the Lammed filiatiuseet "OW *had• been tippointrit, • 4pr IF ,141 ! , , 4,1 • the Cominimiuners. i r.,W.4411 ma id, h e onin kl not neepny the tittle • of te House loose, se amsther important question ? Senator dieguseionto-iitcht. Se reed in ohm his AM. anti Learned Freesia (Mr. Alsereronats).bed raid of, the (wit Learned CattliitllVll Whit were iu tbe einwasssainn i bat eertaissly the inquiry might hate bees bissefielaily certitudes' by others, as it assigist be *braved there was not , nee Mann in ChanetipWp•of this four Commissioners in tist • frieh Commission. - 'r''. • ' - - • • Sir JOHN NEWPORT briefly replied. He wished to • place shave Residuliono on Ark lommals, as he had Minion more than once that Resolutions of his, chick had hams wit. gatived, were, after a lapse of yesire,ieferred to by those very prowsui who bad opposed them, mid oiled upon. The two Snit Resulotioas were Mao pet, mad tiegetived without a slivisiou. :. - r , (Ss the third Resolietiou the C dicey was cleared, **dike {fosse divided. .Thisaalsokeliatt west lo centime ase l fager ,whom 4W, it was to fogsgoyet..l lemons of ths t Oppopia• siosters to the Jedgett.st ' of Kieg's work a Common Pleas. , ~4 . : Is I. ,• • • for the ROlOlOOllllll •• • • . . -....•••••.# Against it... I' IPOISIVS . •• • AS PETITIO/f l it )100.., kil 1117 t 'itISLIAME, NT. i ISe. JAM RS ores teit:s Petition $Bl 0 the citgAir Car. • reenter for a Refines tin the Commons Iliarte;of Par , pest ;iv doiug which, he obeervid that the !y .off ,t ton s instead of being *hat it should he, the:piterlina se a proter-tor of the liberties of the people, Gemmel' fie ~ stub re: Om Executive in imposing restraint* and .., ~ i fietlareee unavailing his riveting. might Ise, he l hots while itr• had the honour of a seat in that Here, everetal este. Ws voice in protection of the ro:maiusing,*ll, of .raoSiolls. l . flow mach better wou'd ibe.l4iisisma ,► M trz lisle /WI to the country by effectieg a pahlnity, rz . , e . "ell; Nsi an pursuing oweasrre dial may 111111Rept o , 1 analeby and eessifnaion. ! ...at • SP CURWEN supported the Petition, ante iiiststerd the HO use That it wee most reapectobly socueal. , ,frflot Partition wag then received. aid t a rilerml*lshiptinted. ELECTIVE FRANCHISE. 4 t ' Lord JOHN ftessti.i. rose to cull the attention of the House to this question. tie Still, that idthough the proceedings which hail been gptiog forward of . late ill Parlininent did not sand 'Duch encourage ment, yet the proposittoir he had• to submit so the consideration of .the House Mils a n te so just in principle and easy in practice. that lie wag sssdasced to entertain strong hopes of succe.... If at be true that all government must depend on opinion, it is most true that the Government of this country Ito Particular must always rest on thi opinion of an en- Tightened people. Tlieir eyes were constantly turned on that House, and viewer) as with a microacernall ' their proceeditsgs.liivieall of f tivisig del supeistitious reverence dust forineily wird to accompsoy audio rity, they are rather disposed to deny those advan tages-that are drnved room experience. Hut of all questions that which was too' st difficult wan the re preventalion of that House, and none certainly, occupied so largely the attention r 1 the pen In considei nig the question on the pretteust occ Ine,thould avo:d all the Intuit and obvious .with which it was introduced... The na vsourse would be, to cousin erne by ststitigl I"Ntst that - House did Ilia represslqirtlvelleople, mid i; • then refer to then various dojo ais4.lnport sue al laertion. 'This he thought was lin Invidious course Aletause it brought into eliocuesion the lett sir .this as we l l *nor lief liarliameista. Alt hough he did not mean to pursue this course, yet it mass tar from his intention to deny or conceal that be was in ptinciple • Reformer. What lie meant was, that this llowe should fully and fairly represent the people's opi aions,and in point 14 fact I hey de nut do ao.—(ilear.) —He was not one of those who thought that the House of Commons should he a mixed represrotosiosi of the ari.toctucy and the people. He thought it should fully said tuunpletely represent the people. lio much for his owe opinion. What he called Upon the House to do was this, th it abuses and innova tions having crept into the constitutioo, they should endeavour to check them, in order In avert the con aequencea that may occur. %Vali this view, the first object to which he should cull the attention of the House war, to the extrusive bribery and corny that prevailed. Wish respect to this, there multi .be . but one opinio.i, &tensely, that it was highly etiminal and pernicious. %Vilest lie had the hutionr, two fears ago, to addreis the House . on this sub. ject, he then ventured to riatetbat it was a matter of public conversation in that House, to haw great An extent bribery and corn, in ion had been carried, sad the Noble Marquis opposite (Londonderry), who might. be considered the trailer of the majority in thin House, did not venture to drily its existence, although if be could have done so, it would deprive the supporters of his (Lord Russell's) motion of a very strung argument. He retnem berril it was stated by the late Mr. Sheridan, that in cao missing some of his coostituents, on a particular occasion, he said se tote of Hit voters that he !advocated the cause of Ret•rm. " I am vary gnul of it," said she voter, " fur I an told that some Gentlemen don't give one sin gle guinea to their voters, and this being the ease, I think it is high time there should be some reform."— (Ilene, and a fottpfa).-oThis system was carried to a most alarming retest in Cornwall. In each of these boroughs there is generally a peewit' who is considered the Patron of the borough, and he generally provides for their waists sad • supplies their necessities, in consequence of which important millets he generally talcs his seat in Parliament, or *ends one in his stead. The other seat le 'tonally sold. That this is common and notartsoos, Ito man can deny; and that it is iu the highest degree injurious, is e q uattycb ar. It ititrodaers drunkenness and piolleciey amongst the people, a total dis regard for their duties to the Couto notion, and •u iris:44mo and brutality distorting sorcery feelln4 and re it cluing (Mud. Another evil that duos nom this system is, that it compels Ilse Executive to endeavour to conciliate these voter. ; a further consequenee must he, that St corrupts the Govein• mein, for they nanst naturally look to their patrons and '' their supporters in order to olnain their weight in that remise. Mr dial not make ibis observatiota as referring to this ()overtimes't in pat ocular, nu more than any other, hut in the stature of thins they resold not be OM. rwi.c.— The tiovertammet most look with as great muomy to throe small boroughs as to the large comities. The t dicta of this spew., th ee , m o no bitten all through the e out'- . to. Are e a u COMM 1 0 ciimirirr the remedy 'bat Avoid 11111 applied. and without adierting to shag occurred h e . Arra the Karnirtim, be weald say, that the tear after the kr sreolutioss, • Sin was introdamed Ilia Parhassient to poi vest She etesemetie - sap 110.41, of elections, sad be should beg Pareasesieu In rend a part of the preamitle of Slot Rill....(The Illublw tared the. wad an rourset from the preamble, s !deb after stating the santom that existed, smacted, that asp man who slandel In roaviriell of bribing et so election, should be iocapa orslttlisg is shat Par t t . . ateatl6rttly adhere, that the trietriveasf the ripple slotteof lie beard he their representatives is Parliamect.—(llear.)-- Ht. n'tjert was to unite the people, to join theta together heart sail hued, on that the streams a liessiony owl curt cord 8 "via( friar one majestic river, might fertilise mid beautify ea ry place through which they paosed.--(11mr.) --He did ti d lino. , whether it were accessary lo ester tow sue drool', uf the allocution, hat on the principle he vrootd armoire to Isnint.sse.phscriation store. Nothing coultt be swore PaseuttlaTo preserve ihtliberties that hate her. Lauded down to a. by our &aerators thus to slept the hut. of the coottitutioo to the progressive ad meat aociey, Immy•••••••••••••••mr •••••••1111.111MMUINIWWWW. tare Shiba 141 mein GO ilndo ‘ whieb liessioldbOrdMSMer to coo template. Lank to the'tmosemeems first roma from tie se. Oct of this wise coostituilowal precaution in other cortstrlea. Look se Spain =A Italy. Its Italy ea long es this mans was preserved, the RepoMies wen Auariebiag in the greatest spies tour,, but we sooner was it deported from, thou-pd begin to mark itin ir declise, aril that &Seared emeasey, once Ike west of 'ng and of ern i re, so no degraerated.Tben mug =ear isitelleetwal Mediae both drays of, ',Mfg althe 19ilmzenterhathen =attempt tam made to raises/tem up, was ;Akre • swan that heard Min tli.ot did mot glow witk indignation at their cowardice and pro. Riese,. Let os beware then, lest by iirsiiating i . their. ex. ample, our posterity should become as dqeenerate as they. It was necessary that the Government should have not only the heart, bat the whisk heart—amt only the affeetions, has the =tine affection, of the people. It was insposeible this cumitly could mood without the main aseriftomd deem• tuns of the whole people. lie therefore isiet%pedi the House to consider of every means, and to lon a* opportu nity of adding one other link to the chain Unit unite, that Home to the people, and of rendering the Executive: the Arostocrecy, sad the Commons, objects of affection to the English nation. He bad now concluded all he had to offer on this quest lien. There might be some who would view hip Proposit:ou with alarm, as having guise too far ;' to Woes Ise might become a subject of ridicule for not holing gone far mousse. • Other* might think that any 'hinge at all might endsuger the safely oral. cmslitusios. Ni was not one of those who participated in these recharge ; he pitied the alarm of the one, sod disposed the ridicule of the other. Ile Mould as least retain the cumulation of havirig made a propositi 111 l , which, if carried into execution, would be be neficial to the rouser! for its spirit is just and reasouable, and, fur himself, be slice orejoy . the realest of all gratilica. lions, that of ha ism Nla - 'Woe Noble Lord eon. eluded, amidst the - l wing the following Braulutions I. I. Thai grievous io the kingdom, and manifestly oppose its be Iteir; Omit endue elections of Members t• serve as Berge's= in Parliamemt, by grori bribery and eurruptiona contrary to the laws, and its eiolstiou of the freeolion dee to the election of Representation for the Cominums of Egiciagi.l its Parliament, to the great .1 the kingdom, elithrissournble, and may be destructive to the constitutiosis u( Parlianamst. "2. That in order to mrengthen and ntaialaiathe oireeseart coolie:um heroes the Cormausis of this Kingdom mod thei r Represestatirea is Parliament, it is expedient to give to such places as are greatly iscressed in wealth and poselation, and are aut at repent adequately represeuted, the right sif re turning hierabers 14 *erre in Parliament. “ S. That is Seim, Committee be appointed to consider to what places, according to the prisiciple of the foregoing Rs , . solutions, it may be adrioabk to extend the right of a-- turning Members to in Parliament, and the best method of effeclige that measure without an incouvernieut addition to the Membirre of this Hauer. " 4. That kt be referred hi the same Committee to consi der further of a mode of proceeding with respect to any bo rough which may hereafter be charged with nosnrious bri. bery and corruption, in order that such charges may bf regularly and effectually inquired lobo, mid if proved, that suck boroughs may he disabled from ulayllpi r lingeoirs serve to Parliameet fur the future." '"- Mr. WHITMORE seconded the Resolutions, bat express ed his inability be view , *his any complaceoey, the vendee of Radical Reform; beesiteeqie feared that any violent effort to eradicate the abuses and corruptions which had grown up in the system of our represeatotion wOO% tend to union. sad injure if wet destroy, that Constitution which he so highly pri sed, sad from wine', such bkssings had been de rived to the country. • Mr. BATHURST opposed Ilse Resolutions M consiarable length, but it was imposibk effectually to ascertain- the !Ugh: Hon Gentleman's remarks in the gallery. We uuderelood him, however, to assistain, that the House mold not be era. Mitered as pledged to any measure of Hit nation of the plan proposed by the Noble Lord, by them*. to which they hail come ea • former occasion with emote* the eases of bribery and corruption which bed beet brewed under its notice its a distinct slope. The Right Hosoursble Gestlernasi con cluded by nweeisee the previous epiertiou. Lord JOHN RUSSELL explained. Mr. BARHAM gave his most zealous= Sidle Imo- POO lion of his Noble Friend, but begged leave ails the Borough of Stockbridge, which he had the b ps... present, bad completely reformed itself. The House divided— For the Ameadmitat • I tob. Arnim( it o 00000 Majority against the original notice.. 31 On our results to the gallery we found the House engaged' iii a discussion which was continued for a abort time after, upon the subject of a loan of 500,600/. proposed to be made on the Sank of Ireland, at 4 per cent. while, as it was con tended, tbE money could be borrowed in England at 3 per reel: The u ser Oilers of the Dm were then disposed of. and the House aolj dal HALF-PAST TWO O'CLOCK. - MI NORJTY ON SIR JOHN NETIIPOIT'S MOTION DILATIVE TO. COMINDMIONSIS OE JUDICIAL eillitotair. Altborp, Viscount Hobliouse, J. C. Rstrabold, C. Bennett, Hots. H.G. Hunts, Jos. Rice, S. Herod, R. Hutchinsow, How. Smith, Wen. Barr dm. H. C. Smith, J. Blake, Sir F. James, W. Smyth, J. liarkaas, .1. F. jos. Monett, J. B. *earl, Lord J. Burro., J. Martin, J. Stewart, J. Carter, .1. Milton, Lord Tie 'try, W. Hon.G. Vrieweri, J. C. Moberly, John Tairistock, Marysis Catcnift, J. Milbank, R. Wood, Alderman Ceneennon, L. M.ekintosk, Sir J. Writ!, H. Colborne, N. R. Newport, Sir J. Wilmus, Sir R. De Crespigny,!iirW. Newman, W. Wane, J. A. Davies, Colnuel Ord, W. Wynn, ,C. W. Ebringtun, Lord O'Callaghan, J. Wlttimoor, W. VC Folkestesete, Fos. Palmer, C.' F. Williams, M. Graham, It Phillips, Q. tie Drell, P. Pores, T. TILLINS. Goaskell, Jl. Result, Lord W. Baring, Guise, Sir W. Russell, lewd J. alecaluaald, J. MINORITY ON MR. LENNARD'S MOTION TOR TVs arIf.AL OT THE 111.AiPHIC110011 AND SEDITIOUS LDS/Lx aci.. A bereronsliy, Hu.J. F linid C. WOraoly. S. Newham, 'ir R.C. Pabel, C. F. of tmes-ire povertv, piasepsed of as 'hoarse indifferent to Oro proceedings elf Oat great Coutted, nil that tot** had tap sues of money, soil were anxious To Sg t inn Parlisitattat; it ern *obit impossible, that these two dames of Oriente should meet--theo.frpold mote Hiele'ber. g ainu he I your tenaettuteats etrei No !islet, be your penalties ever wt severe, he yworbypotti Ply erre .well estaintaitred. If su, then. the Holy way to effect the matter Mould boo to ili.franelsise these borough.. We have preerdems in this rade as 'well as lithe ow the other. In 166 A, the year lo telsirlllite had alluded, is which the Bill was horoduced to reduce the expense of electillas, leave was given to bring it a' Bill to disfrauthise the borne* of Stockheidge, and ex. teed the fraught*e to bouthalopiou. to 1693 leave was given he Witte in rs Bill la elect two Members fur Stockbridge, to which was added Basingatoke. Here the Rd I slopped. Next came the borough of Alilborough 110 December, 1696, it oso sersiered that mo new writ should be isunrd that year. Io Derember. 11197, a Petition was presented from Aid's/. roues, admitting their gull, and praying to Ite admitted to favour. In 1701 it was ordered that RD new writ should be ittealad. Is Ibis year there had beer wore frequent intaisces of maalpeactires. A person of the name of Shepherd hail enitesvoured to corrupt the boroughs of Po-amber, tgoottou Basset, mad Ilebester. Sir Edward Seymour seem rd to,have Men particularly aweless in detrains the corruptiod, in eonseqaeace of tench the Hone emerged 'hint tine thanks for his exertinna. and he should take the liberty of reading a passage from die Speaker's speech in convelitig their thanks, as tending to dice the smitintents of the House of Commons of that slay..--(The Noble lard then readmit extraet, uhich men itUatti 61 the highest terms of praise the sense they • ntertain ed of the exertions of Sir Eilwanl Seymour ).—Theironsequience of this tea. that Seymour was net t.. the Tower. In 1702 leave wee givrts to bring in a Rill to disfranchise the bormigh of Kiugston. But these inquiries and these Bills snout avert the evils that are complained of.—(Hear • Cleasorilk Act Ills greatest abases may be commit ' tad; fur no matter how frequent the abuses may he that are mennitted, if they raw make op their differences sot a single whisper world be heard of it is that Hom.e.—(?tar, hear.) MMb respect to Grampormd, it appeared that Sir Manasseh lard bad some haggling about a sons of forty or fifty poontla, and the Onion boding • they could get a higher bidder, he was left to a small saimerity. He afterwards ✓otated to pay the sum necessary to effect a mono's. wise, is ronsetmeace of which he Moue, of all the others, who were much deeper implicated in guilt, but yet would pay the mosey, apd go see step deeper, was made to endure all the coooqueures. There was a practiCe mnongst the blatiomelaus, to a store, of throwing a Jew overboard, if they had our. In the same maims that House was ready enough to throw that unforloaate Christian evef tiosr.l, .anti load him with all the responsibility.—(blach filleplifte, tied hear, bear)—lt was on this accent that he brought forward the menstre, sad the more particularly when he saw that there were malty who, when they went out of the House, made ao scruple publicly to avow the fact. He was mot prepared logabasit say specific plan Wills House, but of this be was persuaded, that if (roes anddsgnat bribery were proved to exist, the Home should be enabled to appinot • Committee, like thoGenville Commit tee, authorised to re ceive upon oath whatever evidence should he submitted to them, sort report the same to the House. He knew that great nkleetiitsts were entertained this plan is consequence of the delay occasioned by 'reeding the House of Lords. He was fully sensible of this itietinve nienee, and shoal.' lierefore wish that a tribunal should he appointed, independent of both Hones, which lee conceived would be a enoiderable improvement to the practice of the Constilatioa. The details of such a measure as this should, to his opinion, be left to a Committee, and it. was his in tention, after a general resolution had been adopted, to lab mit a proposition to that effect. He proposed no introdic iioo or choose that was not called foe by a change of affairs; he did not call upon the House to adopt any innovation that had nut been caked for by other lomovations. The grist i of the manwhetarimg loans rendered this change neeeasary. When they called fora redaction in the military establisturaeut, this was assigned as an newer. In another place the Prime Minister accounted for the neces sity of a large military establohment ou a similar princi ple. When them he asked them to adopt an alteration, an improvement is the Coostit lotion, in eouseeporwee of the in. crease of the great asanufacturiog town, he only did that which the Gentlemen on the opposite side had done : with this ditionce, that instead of making this a cause for force and reatesiot, he costaidered it as additional cause lot conciliation and affection.—(lfear, hear.)—lt has loco said that preemie of rosavaereisl habits and i.e commercial pursuits are the whine! representatives of tonosobacturing towns. This, be reanteil, was a very plausible fiction, some what like the fiction isi • COUri of Law, that the Jadge is the virtual Counsel foe the prisoner. Bat, as the primmer nid, if you were Counsel fur me you would sot have asked that que.tion, so might the mattufacturiii: towns soy, Gentlemen, it' you 'tally represented our interests, yaw would serer have given that vute.--( Herr, hear.)—But it most be of im portaoce that some persou from the place should represent the town, who wool.' be acquainted with the people, avid th e ir l o cal u t eri/41os, end by the Bill fur transferring the franchise flout Grampound to Leeds, the ides of virtual re presentation has been completely done sway with. Ile did not mean to ask the Howie to confer the elective frau ellise on those towns, but he contended that it was not only the dusty of the House to transfer the elective franchise to those towns WiirtleVtr the opportunity occurred, bin also to seek the niesis• of doing to.—( their, hear, bear.) — In consequrnce of the tnauuer ill which these towns were [Civet ned, great evils arose. Manchester was !overlord by a Sieward, and belonged in the of Suffolk, sad Bir mingham was under the 111.11L.gflierli of constables. Fur omit of some persons with whom to communicate their political concerns, they torso 11 their attention to lee field that addressed them, and were sure to crowd round every Hoot that asceuded a rostrum to haraugue them, for want of any better. And what were the mesas resorted to by the Government to allay their discute teut• Old they apply to Ike Lord Lieutenant of the comply to exercise his Mimeses!? Niktsch *Lino The peens who was cheesed with this most imperials, frost est Ur. err, the spy—the virtual representative of their interests was Mr. Oben the qty. They saw all the elements of docurd collected, and ready to burst forth into au explosion, sod their chosen arbiter of peace a n d war was .1/r Wirer fag spy.—(Load chars.)—biapesadded to demagoguts, selee were let loose atnongO the pruple, who, by verities' their hopes, Bud rens/vine the fear of punishment, urted them we to acts of viiileoce. And what else was to be expected when the vi ry revenue of these wretches depends d on treat. lug di.affretimo They lived upuu treasos, soil their to- Fitzroy, ~. .-J. fkritassuei.Set . . coast ccsard Isbell trauqoillity was testened.—lle knew there I , :, H. Cordes, Sold. P1ai11i0....1. were some .Lis were advoestes for strong measures of co- Bernal, Ilslph I•rifielm, J. W. Phillips, G. R. ?loon, and •Ito thought that siothiez rise WI. St to manage i ikusyou. It. Glasse, Sie tr. itickford, W. the twanufactoriog districts. Ile tie:w ihsrr were some 1 , birth, J. Graham, M. Ituesral, Greenhill wbo rejoiced at mud culotte. il Atte Woody tragedy uf elan- Itriaht, H. Hatboet Hue. E. hire, S. cheater. But he would ask them, will these nernsterre pru• l' lleo u xh e v„, Si r J. ii.„„ i . R . Roberta, A. W. duet the effect ?—that measure. of corn 1.. u, of segratet, 1 By lie , C . I•ll , dthmtesc, J. I'. Robssig, Colonel airy ul oppressi iiii , here not been rreurti 61 hi, and without litordrit, Sir F. tluteltimen, Hence Hanvidee, J. slicer's? Call )otl jut...F.ow 'Wis. 1 - 111 . %% olio*. at i h . same timirm, Viscount Ilalvieziaorl, fl. amyl°, D. time increases, the distress.• of Or 'seriph. •11.1 pro- Bu‘toss. F. Jame.. W... Saajth'.J.li. modem &fain engin , —(!Smut.)—ltme• le reutaisou notheuz DUW , c onettutito , L. 1,,,,, h .,,,,..,,. Th .. mi ..,4,, , 3. in be added to time %yen le 1 roerriow but • ertna.rehipue She I C won. S . Lau/Stun, J. 11. Tit-rimy, Kt. Ha he. ['nil, and 'bat, be 'nested mu Gad, mee had still spirit rusesigh i (*.loner. Kubt. Martin, Juba Tavisteek, Lord It , res i.r...-(Cheers ) It was nditeloue ni lull ourselves : eilimert, C'. blitue, A. Whitbread, S. C' into • 'motion of security; it wets immissihb to muskier all Cube, T. %T. Mouth, J. B. Tv..itis. c.c. was tratiqesellity after what had ocean nil in (Hu I go* in Valeria, Julia Niatdowstm% J. Webb, E. April lamd. mad that lull afirr She array had been raised. i lieuison, %V. J. Nlaberly. J. Wyvill, N. 115 proposinc this messes's. he isitrodstred isothiaz that was i tviree, F.lout I Nilsen, Lewd %Verve, J. A. Nut curium's! with .err evisimieutiesal lesson mod peremee. 1 iltesidao, T Newport, Sir J. Whimsies, W. IHe hail heard it argued with great ability, abeCher Sever- I Ehrisigkio, Lord Newosins, R. W. Wilson, Sir R. eetaistioo would be soy sileantsipe iii wootiotosteebsir woo.. I Fokeshille. L•srml • Nnirest, Lord Rat that woe mat ha purpose ;he did eel ninind Here to wpm • Tinit.tbes-T. R. Leawood mid T. Dramas. whether hberty were pal, but to this priociple he wosid . Mr. J. Wiwi's, riled Ile *Mb lard Hobert aININt.'"' . .. k id so that by the Cline 200,0001. were exp ode! Is tist seh we pe so:d 1 / 4 ,Ise did Frit Anti 1110 4 id world antoppe . .9 • •• 'pok l etts its t u pi s s q " . .. i.glide e l P il l • Consuls ~ nets, it labours "mold : w r .ll l 6.1:1 tr0u1 .. .. ,, - . C l elitlenten merit ooethe clastillf L ei r i srn i e r d e • wrist p i ete. ......,.. , .. ..p ... Cit a iliel ' an ii , 10 1116 te .„... if Woe. . .. . . of snot, • rots the J.rnis 1 ' h this sub- , deity the Illisst atirfainA4 ...- . . either else se W 41.1681 .. • t.t ± k ', 144 •vr; ...'. iw. , he T i S d. opiwar Attsirosy-0-ssetal. Thee eras •• ' _. he dim-over es ollsonsfibes;,brs shalits; eV**, froti4rltlat tail . • i ow t Costarnatis— abuses might Tint be inepsited tit awl he . • ,he reared, was biati•it Aids reaorted tu. What * * loners were appointed . by the Crown to inquireremedy dint was ts fr .applied ? Could we make . a instead of the seven years which had b eesi occupied _r law that would clretiaalls rh.rk the prartire? With luta the nature of.,coesedua A p—im- • i "." i"ifikti", 464 - -64 ." ( 1 14110111w id" 1 " 44. - 1 ' -ar 4W - efteef4aarW - rriir' • .- - - r - ... f. 6..4' . he raw hi I__ i5....,_ ..__ WW I Of JUitiee On the ghlre - Gesiry - ; - id 15, iis CoitiPli• r :ordiiiaty (hl , gefice, Would Wye at hp the , t , t y.. mot able to discus,' use, and he was persuaded it was int- if it „. once with tut Addres s wooed Cit . that purpose ih 'aitiodisl overt ntoisihrl. - ' " - . • pussilde the small but...ache could err extreme their tsar. ..1 _a _a .1.- --AL.) ..t i .464. e 4...1.........h..eh, - - Fe ....m• 21, ..e go nersommibirie a stile