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K STATINM A N Tower. 44 If any circumstance in the conduct of this transaction should have excited any displeasure in this Hun. House, I trust they will he convinced that no eish fur delay could have been imputed to me: it had cost me much uneasiness that I could not execute my duty before ; hut the House will have the goodness to consider the novelty of the situation in which 1 was placed, and the deli. Lacy and mildness with which a duty like mina ought to be performed." [Hear, hear n Sir JOHN NEWPOR f wished to have the case on which the Attorney General's opinion wu given, along with that opinion, laid upon • the table. Mr. WHITBREAD wished to put two or three q utitions to the Serjoarit. r. The SPEAK ER Afierught that the questions might he better asked after thn Narrative should, lave been a second time read to the House. • [The Narrative was here read by the shorthand wider.] In that part of the reading which adverted to the day before the caption, the Serjeaut said, that after he had gone away, leaving the Messenger in the hall, Sir Francis returned from riding, and the Messenger showed him the warrant. Sir Fran. cis bid him leave it; the Messenger said that he could tint part with it, but must stay or go with the siarraut, upon which he was desired to leave the house; there was no force used, but the man' Wog alone could not resist, and therefore went • away. Mr. WHITBREAD desired to know from tho Siirjeant at Arms, at what hour on Friday he had told the Speaker lie could •not execute the warrant? Between five and six o'clock. Was the House sitting ? It was. Where did you see Mr. Ryder ? In this House. Had you any communication with Mr. Ryder, and of what uature was it ? Ido not recollect tniuutely,; it was but a few words ; I thick be said the business was mismanaged. To whom, at the Secretary of State's Office, did you apply ? To Mr. Becket. What was the substance of your application ? I required a force to escort the Prisoner to the Tower; I particularly required a force of ea. valry, as the Police Officers would not have been - Shit to keep up with the carriage. Did hir::Secket, in your conversation, refer you at any time to the advice or direction of the principal Secretary of State ? I cannot distinctly recollect; I rather think he did. Are you sure that his name was mentluncd ? No, not at all. Did you see Mr. Ryder at any time in the course of that evening? I. saw him behind the Chair, as 1 was passing on to the Speaker's Chamber. When the Speaker desired that you should call at the Secretary of State's Office, bad you told him that you could not execute his warraut? No. Let me understand you, Sir. Do you mean that he diretted you to use force before you told him that force was necessary ? Certainly not. I merely mentioned to him that I was to wait on Sir Francis nest morning. I had then no idea that be did not mean to comply at once, and come with me to the Tower. The SPEAK4a...-••44 I think, before the Ser. scant proceeds, it would be better that I should mention these circumstances with which I am iw. suediately connected. [hear, hear.] I had de sired the Serjeant, on receiving his warrant, to execute it before ten in the morning, if possible, that the conveyance of the person arrested might nut be deferred until mid-day. A short time after nry coming down to this House, I understood that the Serjeant was in waiting to make his re. hurt to me : I was just thew informed that Sir Francis Burdett had been seen in the streets ; I desired the Serjcaut not to step to make his re. port then, but go and execute his duty. In the course of the evening I was Auld that the Serjeant wished to speak to toe. The House happened to be in a Committee, and I went into my chamber. I saw the Serjeant : and; on his asking what I required him to do farther, I told hint I had no thing tu requirehnt the Lieutenant of the Tower's warrant for the body of the prisoner. He said that Sir Francis Burdett had agreed to go to the Tower next day. I told him, he might be in the', Tower himself next day, but that I must expect the strict performance of his duty. I cannot but hope the House witi-think I have been correct in what I have done. [Hear, hear.] Mr. WHITBREAD proceeded su his examina tion of the Serjeant. 'l'd' what happened, or who were in the room, when you acquainted Mr. Becket that you would want force? head and Graham, the Magistrates, were present. I had uut much conversation on the subject ; I merely mentioned that a cavalry force would be necessary. flow lung did you stay there ? Till a very late hour, till midnight. Did Mr. Ryder never appear ? No, we were in a lower room of the office. Did Mr. Becket take it upon himself to give . you answers, or were the Magistrates the princi pal persons conversing? The :slagistrates. Did yuu ask to spe Mr. Ryder at the time of your attendance at the utlice ? Nu. At what time did you quit the office after you been first there ? At about half.past seven. • . —eat time were Ykt-taktiStki t 9 attepti the Am I to understand, that during the whole transaction, from the first delivery of the warrant to the time of your being summoned before the Cabinet Council, you, had not seen any of, his Majeity's Ministers ? I saw Mr. Perceval. W hat passed then ? He said, 44 Well, Mr. Colman, have you executed your warrant ?" I said I had attempted to serve it, but was not yet quite satisfied as to the authority which it might give me to use force. He asked if I had not any precedents in cases of this sort. 'lbis conversation I rather think was chiefly produced by his thinking it wrong in the Messen ger to have shown the warrant to Sir Francis Bur dett. Was that the substance of all that passed be. tween Mr. Perceval and you ? Yes. Did you, in consequence of that advice, sub• mit a case to the Attorney-General ? Yes. When did you receive the opinion of that learn ed-Gotitlemati ? Last night. • Have you the case and opinion here ? I have. Will you produce them to the Ilona? Yes. [The case and opinion were then handed to the Clerk, and a cry of Read, read! from various parts of the (louse.] The ATTORNEY GENERAL rose and said, it was necessary for him to state to the house, that when the case was first sent to him, they had inserted in it a copy of the warrant, which, on reading over, he found was not the warrant to take the body of Sir Francis Burdett, but that to the Lieutenant of the Tower to receive the body there; so that he was obliged to tend it back, as he could give no opinion un such a war. rant;l the case was afterwards returned with the right warrant, and he wrote the opinion on it. By Mr. WHITBREAD to the ATTORNEY GENE- RAE. Was that the first time you were consulted as to the legality of the Speaker's warrant ? I have no objection individually to answer any questiou; but 1 am nut clear whether that ques tion ought to be answered. Mr. W II ITBREAD.--" That is for the House to determine. I think it a very proper ques tion." The CHANCELLOR of tile EXCIIEQUER said, that if his Hon. and Learned Friend was to be examined as a witness, the other examination should first be closed. Mr. WHITBREAD acquiesced in the obser vation, and desisted from questioning the Attor ney-General till the other was closed. The Speaker's warrant was then read by the Clerk, and afterwards the opinion of the Attor ney-General; the purport of which was— " That as there were no cases exactly in point, he must argue from such as were nearly analagous. He citerfTremaine's case in 2 or 3 Cake, is which the law is stated at considerable length relative to the breaking open the outer door to come at a defendant, on the warrant of the King, and ar gued from thence that the Speaker's warrant bo. , ing, in his opinion, a legal instrument, the same means may be resorted to in order to enforce it ; hut warning the Serjeant that it must be in the day-time, and that he must be certain that the parson sought for is in the house at the time. Examiaation of the Serjeant at Arms resumed. Q. by Mr. WHITBREAD—When did you receive the summons to attend the' Cabinet Council ? A. Last night, at half put six o'clock. [The Serjeant spoke in so low a tone, and the short-hand writer read the questions and answers so very rapidly, that it was with the utmost diffi culty we could understand any of them ; a great many it was impossible to hear.] When did you attend ? At half past nine.— Afterwards he thought it was ten o'clock at night. Who were present at the Council? The Attor ney-General, Lord Eldon, Mr. Dundas, and cord Camden. Were there no others ? Yes; Lord Mulgiave. Were those all that were present ? There were Lord Wellesley and Mr. Ryder, Lord Harrowby and Lord Liverpool. Was Mr. Becket called in ! No. Were the Police Magistrates called in 1 No. Did he receive any directions? No. Did he ask for any assistance? He certainly thought it necessary, and was told he should have all he required. Q. By Mr. PERCETAL. Whether on every ap, 1 plieation he made to Mr. Becket, he was not told he should have every kind of force he should re quire; and whether be was not referred to the Ma gistrates to apply for such as might be deemed ne cessary ? Ile had frequently applied to the Magis trates, and they said there was no need to have a military force-in the first instance; meaning, he supposed, that military aid ought not to be called in till after the arrest had taken place. Whether he was not always told by Mr. Becket ho should have every kind of force he should think necessary ? Yes. The Serjeant seems to have preferred a military force from the beginning. When was your first application to the Secretary of State's Office ? Was it before or after Sir Francis had said he would resist ?..-The first time I went to Sir F. Bur dett's house, there was a large mob, and I thought I could not execute the warrant without a military force. Did not I (Mr. PGRCRVAL) express surprise that when you had seen Sir Francis, you did not arrest him ?...You did. Did not I inquire whether the Messenger, when be served the warrant, had touched Sir Francis ?.- You u did' Did not I regreathat neither you nor the Mies. I senger ad touched him ?...Yes ; but we neither of us thhought it necessary to do that to a Member of Parliament. Do y ou recollect asking my opinion whether you could legally break open the outer door of Sir F. liurdett's house under the authority of the Speaker's warrant ?...I do. Did not Mr. Percent say, that whatever doubts there might be as to breaking open the door, there could be none as to his right of search when be was once in the how ?...Yes, Mr. Perceval did say so. W hen he ankiletthAttlerce!alas to the lc- jeant's) place, he would take a legal opinton.-:- Yes. Did not I (Mr. Perceval) recommend you to take' that of the'Atturuey Gemeral ?---You When you attended the Council last night, was it not later than you have stated ; was it not be tween twelve and one o'clock I believe it might have been between twelve endow. Were you not asked by the Council what you intended to do, as Government wished to knew what steps you meant to take? I rather think that was the first (potion askcd. On stating that yin intended to execute the warrant, let. what resistance would be made to it, were you not informed that you should have any force, both civil and military, that you ,might think necessary ? Yes,. I was told so. Q. By Sir JOHN A.NSTRUTHEIt• Had you ever y a sufficient force before this morning? No. . The SPEAKER wished fo say a few words to clear ups point which had been stated in the early part of the examination. When the Soijeatit, on Friday evening, during the sitting of the House, came to him in his pri vate room, he asked him if he h a d brought the re ceipt of the Lieutenant of the Tower for the body of Sir Francis ; he told him Sir Francis had agreed to go with him to the Tower the next morn iiig. lie (the Speaker) desired him (the Se.r jeant) to set off forthwith to the house of Sir Francis, and to take him to the Tower before the dark hours. On the Serjeant's. return to him, between nine and ten, he informed the Speaker tbat Sir Francis meant to resist the warrant, and asked his opinion how he should proceed in case the Magistrates refused to assist him on the au thority of the Speaker's warrant? Re told him (the Serjeant) by way of information—" That he -supposed the Magistrates would execute it in such a manner as they did other process of contempt from inferior. Courts. lie, the Speaker, was al ways ready to give the Serjeant every information in his power, but never orders or directions. Examination resumed by Sir JOHN AriSTRUTIIER. Who first suggested to you doubts as to execut ing the Speaker's warrant by force ? I believe it was Mr. amid, the Magistrate. 1- By Lord OSSOLSTON. Did you not conceive that when the civil power had granted the military means, the responsibility was on yourself, and that if a death ensued, you might be liable to an indictment for murder I I knew I was respon sible fur what I did in execution of the warrant. Did you not conceive that responsibility might be. very serious ? Yes. Q. By Mr.. 11. SUMNER.— In your interview with the Under SL;cretary of State, did he not state to yon; that you bad been very backward in the execution of your ditty, and thereby ren dered yourself responsible for all the conse quences 1 think he did say so. • Examined by Mr. SraPnart. When you first saw Sir Frautis Burdett, had you any reason to suppose that be had any in. (CU ou to resist the execution of the Warrant? - - to Sir Francis Burdett's house. I had also an es. curt of cavalry to guard him to the Tower. Thinking myself justified in using force, I went down with the officers into the area, and from that got into the hall, where I l et in the guard, and then went into the room where Sir Francis was. I told him that it was extremely painful to me to be obliged to arrest him in that way; but that I had such a force with me, as it would be useless to attempt resisting. He desired to see my authority. I told him 1 had already showed him pay warrant, and begged of him to come without resistance. He went into the carriage, attended by his brother, Mr. Clemcntson, and a Messen ger. I rode along with the carriage, and deliver ed him up to the Deputy-Lieutenant of the be provided to act in that:ctiaracter? understood that the objectiqp respecti n g A. N o _[ the mill. tacy going through the city proceeded f .s on t the Lod Mayor. . • .. Q. Did nut Mr. Read say, that nei • ther he or any of the Magistrates connected with him Coul attend you into the city ? • A. No doubt. Q. Did not Mr. Road say, that it was never. wary that a l'ela_sistrate • shouldaccompany the mi. • litany ? - 1 Examined by Sir CHARLES BunnaL L . Q. Did the Sheriffs shew any dispositionto hi• petit: or to refuse yop any assistance in the elt" ' titan of the warrant? A. No; the civil. they were verb Q. Did you perceive any difference in the con . duct s o the t w o Sheriffs— ti as I here any distitier . between them as to the °ITT of assistance, or 1" any , o ne more ready than the other to assist yo u ? ": A. :I:here was a conversation between them di• thAnanner of executing the warrant—they were it dinner when I saw them. As to any aid for c tying Iles warrant into effect, there was no diff a l . ence in their dispoiition. Indeed, I asked autite; • particular of them. Examined by Sir CHARLES PRICE. Q. le youe.communication Kith the Art I 1 Mayor t , hat answer did you receive from him ? X . i - ei. * moused the utmost attention (ruin him. Ho sa a, I should receive any assistance in his power to afford. The object of my eitantilunication t o . (erred to the passing of t h e military through th e city. Q. Had you any reason whatever to d s nu t the disposition of the Lord Mayor to aid you in th e performance of your duty ? A. On the moats, I saw every disposition to ass ist m u o n his part. Examined by Admiral MARKHAM. . Q. Do you know whether Government took any s any measures to make arrangements with the Lord Mayor on the subject of which you have best speaking ? A. I believe the Under Secretary of State communicated with the Lord Mayor upse that subject. Q. Was it left to you alone to make these at. rangements, and what steps did you lake to sole them? I have already stated that I hada commies. cation with the Lord Mayor relative to the or. raugements alluded to, and I bad also ceramist. catnaps with hint through my Deputy. Examined by General Leer. Q. Was not your delicacy towards Sir Frauds Burdett the consequence of your recollection, from being so ion an officer in the army, of the deli. uacy with which officers are treated when ordered under an arrest ? The Serjeant at Arms hesitated, and upon the suggestion of the Speaker to the Hon. General, he thought proper to withdraw his question. Examined by Mr. PARNELL. Q. In your intercou Ile or conversation with Sir Francis Burdett on Friday, did he tell you that he would yield to your warrant on Friday with. out any resistance? A. No ;he said merely as I leave before mentioned, that he would write to the Speaker, and be ready to receive um about tithe o'clock on Saturday... Examined by4ir Gnoson HILL; Q. I ask you, whetOer from the conduct of Sir Francis Burdett when you saw him on Friday, coupled with his answer to your note, you did set ‘ e xpect that he would on Saturday g e to the Tow with you without any resistance ? A. 1 timed so certainly. Hire the Serjeant was ordered to withdraw. Mr. WHIT BREAD wished to La the Atter. ney-General, whether any comMunication ha bete had with him ? whether he had been cossetted upon the subject of the Speaker's warrant, at soy time, and by whom, before the case was submittal to him on the part of the Serjeant at Arms ? The ATTO•RN EY.G EN ERA.L said, that is had no objection whatever to answer, tha t tes House desired it. He was, as Attorney-s. ordered to attend, and consulted by his Alajedy'si Council, upon Saturday eve nin g , and Ms adai, and his answers to the questions put to him wet such as he thought it his duty t o give. • Whet On substance of his advice and answers was he ire ready to state, if the House were of opinion he ought to do so. Mr. WHITBREAD could see no ground for declining to answer his question as to the netted the Learned Gentleman's advice. Indeed it el ) • peered to hint perfectly proper that the should be put in possession of it, and parti of the questions put to the Learned Gentleman the Cabinet, together with his answers.: The SPEAKER observed, that the Gentleman having declined to answer, and. to the judgment of the Hoosts, it would be for Mouse to decide, whether he sho uld be c.alled el to give any answer, if the Hoe. Member his question. Mr. WHITBREAD thought the elleetlen_ i mpor tance, and therefore begge d leave to igen Th e CUANCELLOR of th e EXCIIECII) doubted whether the Ho use ought top oes it question. The Attorney-General . Mesa pears, called upon in his official espeeitYs, consulted by the Cabinet, and theobjeel ?1,: question was to obtain from him the coterie . ° • t be lot his advice; but such an inquiry mus Cos feet, unless the whole of whatpassed attlo t the ces ey ' cif was gone into. He submitted tha grate toter , der consideration was nut of a s t o dew solving the conduct of Ministers, a . ~ , such procceAling, arising as it did quite inctid.en: out of the examination of the Serjeao.4_ol --Although the llouso might on 7 r,.,, occasions enter in its inquisitorial cafe"' ilaseil°"' the examination of eaten Cabinet Co . ..„ f es t- 4 1)10 104 trusted it would be very cautious o the precedent for unnecessarily penetrating _ e, of Cabinet *deliberations, and dissolving the tl deuce which was so often requisite t o f e i r !,, so , deliberations e ff ect. Front these consid e:::; ii was that the House was generally se Land • isellert about examining a Cabinet (At" an t t e trusted the motive which produced ths or:, While be .. / * ould operate irt this case. °W illi . that the lion... Gentleman should no t . ai in i ~.rtirular obit& Allah hip _ftuegiiitl b 8 n 4 tics r • A. No. Q. Did lie then make.avty Objection to he le gality of the warrant r. A. His only observe. lions to me" were, as 1 . before staled, that he would write to the Speaker that evening, and that he would be ready to receive me about It o'clock Upon Saturday. Q. Did you undeistand that to be an appoint. Mont for going with hint to thoToWer, and that he so meant it ? A. Yes. Q. Did you understand that to be the mean. ing of his answer to your letter also ? A. No doubt. ! 1 Q. Did you appreh end an y resistance at that , time in the execution of your warrant ? A. No, not from Sir F. Burdett; but from the multitude about I did apprehend resistance. Q. Was nut your expectitiou of Sir Francis Burdett's compliance with the warrant your rea m-I-for not taking him into custody at the time you saw him on Friday ? A. I certainly did ex. pect that he would go with me. Examined by a Member whose name we could not learn. Q. Do you recollect the terms of the letter you addressed An Sir Francis Burdett? A. I believe I du—l can repeat it I think-4 have a copy of it at home—it was something to this effect : I apprised Sir Francis Burdett that I had received a warrant from the Speaker fur his .committal to the Tower, which it being my duty as Serjeatit at Arms to ex ecute, I requested to know at what hour I should wait upon him in order to accompany him there. Q. Have you now the answer in your posses sion ? A. No—but after thanking me for what he described as my polite letter, he stated that he would write to the Speaker that ev ening, and would be ready to receive mo about it o ' clock, upon Sa turday. Q. What precise amount of military force did you conceive necessary or require to ena:ile you to execute your warrant? A. My opinion upon this subject at any time must depend;upon t h e state of the town, and the appearance of a dispusitiou to resist time. Q. What precise number of military did you require at any time, when and to whom did you apply ? A. My first application f6r military assist. ance was on Friday afternoon at the Secretary of State's office. Q. Did you make any other application for the same purpose, when, and to what amount ? A. Yes—last.night I required 300 infantry anti 500 cavalry. Q. Did you at any time demand of Mr. Becket, at the Secretary of State's office, au audience of Mr. Ryder ? A. Never. Examined by Mr. PERCEr AL• Q. When you on Friday applied at the Secre tary of State's Office, did net Mt. Read tell you 1 that you ought to make arrangements with the Lord Mayor as to an escort through the city ? A. I believe it was upon Friday, and 1 answered be. fore that I had not then niade such an arrange. went. Q. Did not Mr. Read then state to you that without a City Magistrate to attend the military ousoliragajWilt: the city—that without a yd v. CO° 11 :: p o (i►t o lsos Wtva or so 0 1 ' { ; nn t: bc, yur the VA it l ysthneec:i.. 4 irle., o . understoou that tug oreeeetreor resp ecting the ma: enameled you to tater going through the city - proceeded fr om- —' I,:tiv.. 1 Is very una . ELL. ?---You slid. Lard Mayor. e the Cow l ' . • . last night, was Q. Did not Mr. Read say, that neither ina rh he o r wee it not he- any cl o . f uti th d e n M o a t g I, is i t r r . at R es ea c dan' say,le A. that ihtiwii was could via 01 0" L believe it might attend eou into the city ? A. N;) doubt. Id Wtoi e , ()iota what you sary that a Meeistrate should accompan y or so Examined by Sir CRAB: i .E ir s or ß e wished to knew Iltary? eAttil l I rather thinkteam Q. Did the Sheri f f s shew a n y disposition t o ' e be 1 Ito execute the pede or to refuse rip any assistance in th e lnh Id be made to it, lion of the warrant? A. Nu ; they c aeca, eel fir r a dd Amokd have any civil. hld that you ,might Q. Did you perceive any . nce in the con. liati )1d SO. Joe l cti th e t‘t o Slierill's—tt as there any dist* t now I a. Had you ever between them as to the °ITT of assistance "46°- y a f e w w ords to A... There eas a couvers•ttion between oie ling ? No. . _, Of was any , one more ready than the other to assist a :e a s t h n e o m d ) : .., theta 5 01 oat ;dated in the early thAnanner of executing the warrant —t a lrey .ee : t it . o f ' tai dinner when I saw theta. As to any it ' tor car. Doc r evening, during rying deer warrant into effect, to him in his pri- enc.:. in their diepoiition. Indeed, I asked a o te te % i t n ib' ed m b . y.Sir CIFAIRLES PrtrCE. How ad brought the re- particular of at i4 la ett u e r s t i pee epee ewer for the body Sir Francis hart Q. is youe.commonication with the Lore May rer the next morn- 4 , bat answer did you receive from him ?K. 1: form ed him (the Sr- i e deuced the utmost attention from him. 1 1 1 . etch the house of Sir sa a, I should receive any assistance in his power ° Tower before the to afford. The object of my eimallunieetion 's, return to him, fe rret to the p assing of the military through the ewe tee •rreed the Speaker city. that th e warrant, and Q. H ad y ou an y reason whatever to doubt the woe ild proceed in case disposition of the Lord Mayor to aid vita in t h e the: rt him on the au- performance of your ditty ?A. On the COW, ry. d" ++ .nt ? lie told bins I saw every disposition to assist mu on his part': a s 1 eation—" That he Examined by Admiral MARKMAN. II, f d exe cute it in such Q. D o y ou k n ow whether Government took Wd .ocess of contempt any measures to make arrangements with the Lord wit , c Speaker, was al- Mayor on the subject of which you have hem II i every information speaking ? A. I believe the Under Secretary of State communicated with the Lord Mayor epee sea or directions. , OHN ANSTRUTHER. tlit subject. tee loubts as to execut- Q . Was it left to you alone to make then at. ult orce ? I believe it rarigereents, and what steps did you take to lola it k them ? I have already stated that I hada commie. you not conceive cation with the Lord Mayor relative to the ar. llt at granted the military rau g ements alluded to, and I bad also coming. i on yourself, and cations with hint through my Deputy. N'l sight be liable to an Examined by General Lem vii ,new I was respell. Q. Was not your delicacy towards Sir Penis of an of the warrant. Burdett the consequence of your recollection, froa th responsibility might being so bug an officer in the army, of the deli. se aacy with which officers are treated when ordered ha In your interview under an arrest ? A f State, did he not The Serjeant at Arms hesitlted, and upon the /61 on very backward in stiggestion of the Speaker to the Hon. General l h , and thereby en- he thought proper to wit hdraw his q uestion, c P u 'i n:e iv rs z a u- tioti with Sir for all the wise: la Q. Its yo E u x r a i nt a i te n r e e d o b tilse M u r r . so. , • Francis Burdett on Friday, did he tell you that tI Sr WHEN. U rands Burdett,. had he would yield to your warrant on Friday with. I hat he bad any In. out any r esistance ? A. No ; he said merely u I b la 4 the Warrant ? have befo re mentioned, that he would write to the 1 S e caker, and be ready to receive ale abouttielve 1 Objection to the le- o' clock on Saturday... i . His only observe. Examined by4ir Gnonos HILL; ' I fore stated, that he Q . I ask y ou, whe 40er from the conduct of Sir hat evening, and that Francis Burdett when, you saw him on Friday, me about 12 o'clock coupled with his answer to your note, you did nut expect that he would on Saturday ge to the Tower at to be an appoint- with you without any resistance ? A. 1 thought beToiver, and that he so certainly. Hire the Serjeant was ordered to withdraw. bat to be the mean- Mr. WHITBREAD wished to asi the Atter. letter also ? A. No nu-General, whether any comMunicationlied both had with him ? Whether he had been cossetted n y res istance at that upon the subject of the Speaker's warrant, nay sr warrant ? A. No, time, and by whom, before the case wee sahaaitted mt from the multitude to him on the part of the Serie:set-at Arms ? e. . The AT said, that le tanc :tatiou of Sir Francis had no ob j ection whatever to answer, i( do the warrant your rea- House desired it. He was, as Attorney.Geaeral, s custody at the time ordered to attend, arid consulted by his Majest ce y's A. I certainly did ex . Council, upon Saturday evening, and his Maid 131 me. and kis answers to the questions put to him le a l ose name me could not such as he thought it his duty to give. - What d substance of his advice cud atiswers was he ea te▪ rms of the letter you ready to state, if the house were of Opinion thd - irdett? A. I believe II he ought to do so. • —4 have a copy of it at Mr. WHTTBREAD could see no ground for this effect : I apprised declining to answer his question as to the needed had received a warrant hen Learned Gentleman's advice. Indeed it IP ummittal to the Toner, red to him perfectly proper that the 0011_ 10 "ierjeant at Aries to ex- should be put in posseseion of it, and particular! ' at what hour I should of the questions put to the Learne an .d Gentleman b teco mpany him there. the Cabinet, together with his : answer in your posses- The SPEAKER observed, that the Lear thanking me for what Gentleman having declined to an it would be Wl wer, and defer: letter, be stated that he to the judgment of the Hoese e r that evening, and would House to decide, whether he should be c.alled el out it o'clock , upon Sa - to g ive an y answer, if the Iluo. Membe r Pie' his question. nt of military force did Mr. WHITBREAD thought the qto Teattr ; e en ou „ . • require to ena b le y o u im p ortance, and therefore begged leave _ A. My opinion upon The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECV,,. est depend;upon t h e state I doubted whether the House ought twat'res,te: rearance of a disposition question. • The Attorney-General r I , r _ , pears, called upon in his official capaciii, 7 4. ler of military dill yuu I consulted by the Cabinet, and the.objeet e" n and to whom did you question was to obtain from him the rastert.e e ls ication f6r military assist. les advice; but such an inquiry must be I „cm , noon at the Secretary of feet, unless the whole of whatpaped aethe_ .. "! , . cal was gone into. He submitted that the Tale other application for the der cousideration was nut of a grave- n°(1 1: 0 ' 3 1 id to what amount ? A. veiling the conduct of Ministers, es . te,u, _ tal ed 30 0 infantry anti 500 such proceeding, arising as it did quite incitact out of the examination of the Serjeahtee s'. a . I mport ne demand of Mr. Becket, —Alth o ugh the House might en' _ et ., i ,'s o ffi ce, ale audience of occasions enter in its inquisitorial caPa e u _'. r. the examination of ewe Cabinet Counsellor!' Mr. PERCEVA t• day applied at the Secre- frosted s c t ed ed en i i t wfourouldgmbeecevsesrayrictya u p t . i . o us o f ne tralth es d t t ahb ! lis: f il e rig n c l lid not Mt. Read tell -you of Cabinet *deliberations, ands issolvin 1 . " l' th. SSlde ra :e arrangements with the deuce which was so often reqsite to g ivetions 'curt through the city ? A. deliberations effect. Front these co 0 eloio ✓iday, and I answered be- was that the House was generally ”801" and a niade such an arrange. about examining a Cabinet Cow" e ", t ' ee eti. trusted the motive which While he OP.' then state to you that *ould operate in this case. hhtsia. r rate to attend the militery that the lion...Gentletnatt should not , 0 the city .— that without a .uarti.c.ohOr obiecuchich kii . 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