The Statesman. — London, England, 1813-05-25 00:00:00

I 1 ~1 said, that a Protestant was not to exPece justice from a Catholic Judge. Such at least was the par port of the Right lion. Gentleman's observation, who, if he appeared to confine it to cues when the rights of the Church were concerned, else added, "to say nothing of criminal causes." But what feet in the prostitution of justice had the system ther-to.perseml tin Ireland produced ? Had not I Protestant atcentlepcy produced' acts of ttljetitlee. - Oen ts welts tiellelnallatederf illeetattliffilifewe - a Catholic,, had•titit his Cause 'beta tee 'Alen pee : judged against hitia e-tideer,./scele !]-;Thfit eras t of tee grietedigiiivieceetettnplained of, and Which the present Bill' was Intended to remedy. Bit 7: •Riglit Hen. Gentleinaii, bed' alte,fallen :late that sort •orerror, - calcehtted eitly for - the mertdien.of hustings--of itiptionfirk that the motnent :the doors the House were opiead to the Caitholice l theiteweuld 'wet be one Irish Membeir who was not a Oithoile; and . ' When the Bench Oil ioi4tl to them,ahat theritwould 'root be a Protestant ship. He hoped the" Right 'lifotioucable Gentleman -blit get rid of tt erre- Weees 'lnfirm,' whicittothimed the simposit ' that alt the numerous Oats - toners against the Catholics front 'lreland, the meittent 'that this Bill said, ___ . that .they Would tern *out true vote ret wine but Catholic objecti ,to this ph oppos i t ib a did, .. _ . . ,1;14. 0 to a _ __ . -sq. was, contended • Membero the moment 'thei r alle g ed dangers had a r . come in the-shape of an amendment to' one 1)( . 1011.111i . peWee,01 : thiCatholies would not be increased rived. The Ilightilue. Gent. hid said, "'give theta clauses of the 13111 ; bet then .i t was en -aliendirtint 7657 thi s 811 l 1 1 --eThit' eitement,'lf tree, would at seats in Pertiement, and every thibg 'age .erotekellal. Which affected the priwciple. If it should be adopted', ' , ter iti! . mind, go tecafe4for At would go to th e . • low." - The. Dissenters had long . had *tide in Ilifitel.' . the BM would be aeortValielthitift, &Ad, probattly, . of 'reicieding de hobo , which had already • . meat, and hid It bt4n - found that 'one- Jan* lo would not be carried any farther ; for the Right/Iola; bestowed on 'theta. Suppose a Cathol i c were .. 4erch and•Shite erase from- that eircemstance? If Gentleman himself hid , not stated,' that he was now tobecome a populat Minister, would he , not attempt. 'lad adverted eethe'ephttons.of Locke, Id Clineu. prepared to Introduce the provisions which he him. Went!) , and unperceived to introduce Catholic ? into • don, and other's, deities question. ) Vat the Catho. ' self imagined would be salutary. The mosteenee. 'all the leading places of the State; and whe n they • lie of the thee of Lucke Was ai different 'frOm the eel of those good effects which. would result flint thea found themselves in the possession- of such potter, ' Catholic 6f the preseitedty, as d4ekitearwas • from BUI,-Woeldbe the bringing Catholics louse, 'Mat it deer that no attempts would be made to es . fight, hot eiervly iii- point of • non, but In' tee. thateatholics and Protestants might see a 'know 1 tibilidi the ascendancy of the Catholic religion ?-If 1 : feeling Aide winch they,regertiell . 'OW' Ca- each Other. They had not now to -ma ''d foel.,iockitttelopts were made, to . what calamity malt it! , 6 1 • iliac and Pieties/mit were then i vititiittty . ad to the - .itittiyle, however ; the:principle ' beelal eitet.llve, rise 1-It was from such calamity thet t lek ' each ' otber in their op inions ilite;t`the7, Hiht df Sl,e. 'adopted arid sanctioned b,y the house •ilf e s atemOns; , wosid defend his children, and his children t iethltd.rea l Weselott to the Crown. The Catholic' wateittached The greatest enemies of concession had been Tea 'by 'resjsting this Bill. .'to a Catholic Prince -46 ; the Pretelik4 r the'Protest- servinglliemselves for a last effort, and bad eucceed. , 1111. PONSONBY said, the Right lion. Gentle- leent supported the right of 'hidiatette held tbeCrein. '• ed in prodatieg some distrust hi regard to the aitsa Mill (the Speaker) had expressed considerable disep. 'Both felt an Inveterate rant:our itawatds each other, sure among a considerable portion of thecommunity; , probation that the framers of the Bill, had not drawn •••• and their differences were imitated arltb all the full but netwithstauding this, he was firmly perstiaded,i it with referente to the religious disabilities of the -of recent animosity. As 'tong •as these preteri- that the public mind' in England wet ripe fOr the 1 Catholics; bat he (Mr. Ponsonby) believed, that • eons to the British CroWn riddled,' What these Big, and that the *public mind in Ireland would bee l the *instruction given to the Committee, was to bring great persons had said certainly tarried consider. conciliated by its passing. Thole who had pre :' .1 in a Bill to remove the civil and military disabilities • able weight with it ; but if the same persons the Bill, would. have no objection to agree to nyi under which the Catholic inhabitants of' these realms had lived in times and under' circetnstances like the : fair arid reasonable amendment ; and when the !di laboured, and he did not know how they could go - present, theke could hardly NI edoebt,-eonsidering Hon. Gentleman should be defeated, as he trust he , beyond the 'instructions which bad been given ..to d:igen/lel:liberality of their sentiments, - the depth , would be l upon the amendment which ' he' now ' them. He wished to obtain , by the Bill, telief foe. i of their philosophy, the soundness of their sense,.; posed, he hoped they would have his powerful' ' 'i i the .Catholics from grievances under which they ' and the vide and eteightened cbaraiter of their views: sistauce in their endeavours to render the measure,' ei 1 laboured ; and the object of the Bill was, as to civil -but they would concur with 'those who were desi- : perfect as it could at present be made.' 1 . 1 rights, to produce equality amongst all -his. A 11... roue of putting an end tea these dtsabilities. If those ; Sir JOHN NICH 01... said, that the BM now before jesty's subjects. The Right Hen. Gentleman (thel who supported the Bile she'd& be defeated, upon the the House was presented under nevi circumstances- i Speaker) had contended, that if the first clause were: clause re;'peetinf the admission of the Catholics into circumstances different from those under' which tt , to stand part of the Bill, which clause was to per- Parliament, in his opinion the whole Bill was lost.- was first introduced. The supporters Of the Bill ' mit Roman Catholics to become Members of Pare . But though the Right lion. Gentleman should be had met, and reconciled' their differences, and the ; Bement,. it would go to destroy the British poniti victorious upon this point, belied not told the Haase 'BM wa s now brought fOrttard as modified by them - ;' tution in Church and State. He (Mr. P.). on the' that he meant to take charge of the Bill, and intro-. from them, therefore, there could be buf little Item, contrary,: thought the edeption of that clause ne- , duce tire seeerel provisions which he himself admitted of alteration. Those who voted for the principle, cessary to prevent the destruction of the• British to be highly just and proper, and which he consider- ] - no alteration. to, the detail could of course remove ! Constitution j , and necessary 'for the security of the ed as necessarj for the safety of the State. lie was from their Option. There were,- however, 'otkees. Protestant Establishment The Right . lion. aid rattly now to 'mike the .coneessions which hid been , who had notni I up their minds upon the Bill uskii.: Learned Gaititlentan (Sir J.ileichel) had saki. _that ;f_ proposed In 1807. flow must the Right Hon, Ge n . i the character of the clauses was fully b e fore them .-- by this act Roman Catholic s were admitted to Par tleman have wished to support him and his friends on , The Right honourable Gentleman (the Spea k er) .. ; !lament, and, the high o ffi ces of the State, they would ' that occasion, when urging the propriety el' these , had very properly confined himself to a general view ; quietly,-gently, imperceptibly, hardly knowing- it concessions! How anxious must be have been to have : of the subject; he, 'however,. mist press upon the - ' themselves, become masters of' -the country, and his mouth unlocked, in order to lend them the bene- ! Committee, what effect this measure Was likely to overturn. the Crown. Quiet Advancement to the fit of his powerful authority ! . fftivrbis heart must : have if carried into effect.. It shOuld be remembered first offices it: the State, Unknown to any person, have been wrung to see the unsuccessful termination , that the Constitution was fundamentally and eaclu. i was rather difficult - to conceive. If a Roman Ca of their exertiotts! yet the Right Hon. Geutleman I sively Protestant, not only were the Chinch and • th o lic were'advanced to. be. Lord Admiral, would it had not said, that her himself would undertake . to • Crown Protestant; but the Councillors of the Crown i not be known ? If he were made Lord Chief jes carry forward such a measure; as that which he con- I also, and both Houses of Parliament. The judicial lice would it not be known? If a Roman Ca tempiated itefavour of the Catholics, or to impose I and: military system are likewise Protestant. The 1 tholic General were to gain a victory, would it the restraints to which he had ad ver t e d f n or did ! Constitution received this Protestant character, net . not be known ? Were a Roman Catholic Admiral to he give any hint that he would recommend the ! for the purpose .of meeting Rey particular ter ' eum- I bring an enemy's squadron in triumph into a British matter to others. Ile had the opponents of 'the ! stance s , but gradually and slowly , ' remedies be -; harbour, could that be concealed? According to the Catholics on his right and • left-the Gogs and Ma- ' ing applied to evils according as, they presented • Right Ilon..and Learned Gentleman, nothing would' goys who fought the Anti-Catholic batteries. Near themselves. Eve n i n the times when the State Wei 1. be known until the whole plot was ripened and pre -. , him sat the Gentlemtin who had 'made himself so re- Catholic, their ancestors did resist the usurpation ' at. pared . for a sudden and dreadfutexplosion. Did the vearkable by his motions, and Melees 'of Motions, tempted by the See of Rome. At the time of 't,he Right - honourable and Learned Gentleman, who for calling the Douce over and eler again: yet not a Reformation, t h ; Protestant Church Sias fully eine.: laid 'so much stress en.this part or, the , Hill, mean Whisper was heard ahout'cartying 'his scheme of con- blished.' By ti Corporation Act, Catholics went' to coutend, thlt if such a .plan were formed, that ciliation lute execution, Hot f or w ar di ng o ff th ose , excluded unless they then took the Oaths of Alla ' 'no dreeevery would be made until the , plot was ripe dangers which were 'apprehended fem monastic in. glance and Supremacy . After the Corporation Act for eltecition ?, Suppose' ten, .fifteee, of twenty 1 stitutions. Reels ., 'this same danger - had been long the Test Act was p ass ed. The latter, was' !tot'in- - i Cithellcs, r eturned . to that Souse ,- they were to kept in disguise. The worthy Baro ne t' (Si r Jan I tended to bear eitchisively upon th i'Dissentere; for i tare out all the Protestanter-.ten of fifteen . Roman C. Ilippisley), who was to givetbe House some more , it was.sopported by them ; the midst objecref Italrafl Catholics to turn . out . six. batelred • and thirty-eight iiforination about the Catholic oat;,,, h a d, h i add.-1 t o p reven t th e dangers apprehended from the - Roinan'l . Prinestants; or, ire!! the Catholics, ,_ by their talents, tion to tke Dominciatts . atid Benedictines mentioned 1 Catholics. After this, the Bill of Rights was iiiinietfleletieence,... or interest,. would persuade the Pro by the Honourable Gentleman this' o ior, - s p n e en of! with th e t ame view. name ly, t o . &our./ the Pro ..:lfestant Members of that :Houk to, overturn the* e society of Jesuits, i t iiii i itch which' he w o uld not! testant chara c t er o f the Constitution . . At the 'filiteraritish Constitetion In .Church and State? However, soon . forget. e -f H ilearl . 'rate SlaughlL-Hi eulirell l of the Union - of Scotland with England, and ' of l i te understand usefully it was necessary to understand acquitted the Hon. e r ee e t of a ny see,h t o injure' •Engiand with Ireland, the same object was 'kept 'in' practically . Let the house suppose a Catholic sit: the Catholic cause; ' but the line o f 'e oo d us t taken view. By thine laws the nation had now ensiled Mpg by the Hight Hon. and Learned Gentleman, and pt' him unquestionably had th o e - ;tiotl e oe y , Th e ' tranquillity for near a century ; a tranquillity that, that the Catholic bad some measure to advance, ha.' Hon. Baronet had undoubtedly given etude, infer: was not disturbed, except ht one .or two irietinies.-' 'Amble to the Catholics ; he would not openly say,' mation on the subject to the'lloosi t tut It'nfits.reilßY He would:ear *hat sort Of Ctinilkeddll net Were l if have a measure favourable to the.Catholies,,and ha l .- tno much now to call upon them wail to hare , it this Bill ivert Winn Tito it law'? ' It Was 1 elite to . the Protestants, to cam, give me yottr.supi back again-to cootie= the& fire; aud i t, Wad,' ld the:chii - itv Wad • lebeosie,•welli Ilee.thessilellUpeotee. hot .'be .would-probably •,eseassLee-yose -end. to unconvince • them:-t/fsae, .1106:!1--Bitt, it .ras h to continue Protestant ; but Were not the secietidell your friends are anxious to tee/1'404,0. measure 4, very singular that the Hole Baronet, JP he had dis-' that were placed round the Throne with this iieW ? i I. and my friends, the Catholics,,will upper:eye*, if cowered that so 'much danger did esiat from these —s•were' not these securities removed by ',the ! you and your friends wilt - support 'us in A measure in communicatedJecuits, bad not communicated that discovery to the present ' Bill N.,...L8y the present 7 But,. i t car-' which we feel a warm interest. Would the Hon. Government.- 2 Elfare, hear ! from Sir J. G. Ho. tied • info ' effect,' the great officers" of . the' stete ; and. Learned Gentleman - enter into suchatt agree- i pesky.] Why t hey the importune intelligence beets were no longer to be -Protestant.-Thie .was. intro- i aient?-[fieer, hear 1) -It was not possible for the ' test given in that House? Did the' Right iron: *clueing a fearful change indeed. It Was introducing , Catholics to carry on such a plot, without beingale- Vtettleman mean, that they should interferety legis- a change in the State which, 50 year's ego, .pri ~ .nean. i teeted. If the Catholics should. attack _ the -Pro s "' lative enactivimit `with these monastic iniv ititetioni would have . .been bold enough to pre t :4 *tent settlement, a s t o -the Crean or Church, heti and vicars Apostolic ?•If he did! : and succeeded i n which; if proposed with s u cc ess , wou ld e ' Itje : , would they be treated by their Protestant fe110w . ... the obJectellitould do more teliards eittabliihint wipe Out all i tly•lews for the kotectloa of thet.4ll4-lobjects, who in their generosity had confeired upon andmaintaki the papal authority Ifs these king- etitution to !int& he had befete a noded,'. It warp t . them an equality of their rights ?-- It was impossiblel dome, than lis been done b y' abypet, spiritual or 'proposed noir to ` remove the bulwarks of the Consti- i for the Catholics to 'effect any thing against either fee ' th ese one hu red years Past Such tenon not martially and step by' . .but siddenlY, lif they were even wicked enough to be willing. the joeiltablieffeet of 'interference by the and almost-without censideretionsteee. "It 411 i, WO to.bej The Righellon. and Learned Gentleman had said, It cruel of • power and persecution. But it this _believed that the foreign atitheritt . of Atli Pepe]. was impossible to predict who would sit on the ljeepletlta Ilslature, the mostmedirate 'would Con fi ne itself mee t ly - to - 'Ordeals .: 'lle rm.. throne of these real ms . 20 ye ar s hence ;it certainly *tette, • str• teenely appeared ' from the eustl fi ed, fearing that by whoesprsced that4l4.l,7l.watt impossible t o p re di c t w h o s h ou ld sit on the 4 1 / 414 110ad be eonclltated ; and p u bli ca ti ons from Ireland, such 1 IMF 'wing ha' ,throne, •or who .should be Dean•of the Arches at 4M not wish that Itlhotikl pass. rather an excitement to strife . ,:'iliite e` (eoeilt:toi , ; that lime r but let the Crowe ..rest .where it would,' there would teen ' ise no oc e a . concor d ; h e did net believe ithataitty - such . ..tent as he ' was confident the House of Lords, and the House., upon monastic in s tit u ti ons , f or h armon y would arise fl , ore it, nor -weeld. i t 'belet'aif Commons , would not .concur in subverting their. 'such causes would he at an este: them to that ante when The lion - amethi . lentb - mesicr • Constitution. He thought there Was great security religion would• thee lhoye fair repose in pence together. Were they . quite lure ;Ai allowing the Catholics seats in Papliarnent ; he g supported by that pertinacious 'tied some agitators would not *distend s, Iv fre.l.liked _ to see . men openly and responsibly giving ~ always resulted f rom 'persecution laud,' that they had a ' r i g ht . to 'pay fliefi.' the it sentiments of the Catholics would description i sad the State would Or. tkbes for the support of' their ' o w n cie r gyl..S....l then be known by, the House of Ome g ans and by danger whatevei foie that 'ainar - 'Were thersure 'that UM h heed th reeteti " the ck I . -y w • .0 3 tits pc pe of them psalms. - Was it possible to sub- . were all Owed that that 4 devised by a State aegissity, the Gentlemen on'the opposite side must. in their opposition allow :that the • same necessity still existed:: bat, ' Betty no persoWtould say thattlie state of thitifs was now the .same as „them The _Right 11(41. id Learned Gentleman bag spoken of_the blind obedience shown to the See of Rotee; andstated 1 acA catrence inSitia . aa . proof It was strange how differently the saps. things appeared to different Ifarodoarle bite coneinNirts or: a . .,'vevy different.nature :=-that the Spirit 'et stilt , , • - 'to him ; . tinnily*, AP liatiCPo PTV at prete st in .eitiatenoe ins - hamper to comply th it. . id the Clergy in Spaiephey his directions? The principal was to keep thera a secret Adel the Govern !lent, that l in the way the Bight"Hoit. ama hemmed' (gentleman I had described, the plot might go on quietly awl im -1 perceptibly until it-should l'exploti.±; but tpie Clergy _. communicated it directly .: The spirit or Papacy, the spirit of every Priesthood; was to govern men as I rigidly as possible, i(viietfiboolil Mihail t: * : ,/f ! tooked to the ',sky; he would time rely en, a.Priest r. the Priesthood, when it towici Eirvelastracted add en. willing to submit,: conducted itself With pr opriety ; but if Were otherwise, it always abuied its Who. rity. Ile felt persuaded, that tl*Plllo4Bi of the present day would be verfunwillieg to submit, es the Catholics did in the dam of Chirlm,the Secotid.--. i.They would resist . with. the greatest ~ .vigoo r • any , foreign. power, that Would attack their owe au thorities. The Teat Act, the great security of the Constitution, as it was culled, was not mentioned iii this- Bill, eltheogh , it we Mentioned !lithe first Bill. I lie iutended to support • the Bill. geperally, ,as c,pn -1 eeiviug it to be of great peblic -utility, although there were : parts of which he did not l epdrelx, epprove... He did not wi ; b to.be misunderstood :. le,erwaYll'olfied to express his -opinion boldly eta openly ;. and titto-it Aleitiert-slioaltLeadtioli. ItittlhiCtitied. of the Test Act, he would support • attem. with, all his power.- It had ben said, that the Bill had not given general 'satisfaction : . he did' not know whether ' that was the fact or not, but if s it were meant that it did 'riot give universal satisfaction, that was not to be ex. pected.-He would say, that the Ostbolic.s.ought grate fully to receive the 8i11,,-a Bill which opened to them the highed• offices. of the mite;, elijch enabled the English Catholic.to lute foL.Members of Parliament ; and a Bill which opene d both houses of Parliament to both English and 4ktiti ciiiluitcci: ... Lie feitld.lot believe, ' that it' 4it.ftei give satisfaction to. the Roman ; Nicilice.. f If it,, did not give oeirelial satisfactiOni it 'Gary siieek. , Fiaill Ale. some., (AL so others. ' ;fa' free Grey,errnemt should never legislate, except wheg:lta . meiaar? yiiii,to.Meet pith ..litcast sat satisfaction , tes business weeid . ba Teri. lig t; it Would nev l e_ i i i liavetie leeisitite :at all. It was ,soffi. cleat. if the Di ll - gave isetlefitetioo tereastin4d9,Meo ; great public benefits were likely to resell from it ; it was the ttletteptis of troth, .liperalitya.eo4 tii#4om, biter bigotry, .millabeess, .tend eeperilitan. It nopld unite ligritet Melia or the people, hi defence of the liberty of BM country' s anti ins 401,401, ofAtgotpette tion.• To mitt the Romati."Catholicato their . fellow. subjects,wase measure of tha.grratest importance i no measure since the Reroltition was of equal iiiiptirte;pce with The present.' Begets great ratiefection in stating, that those ofelleet. Itersone with wbeetl4,.vrail 44t he !titbit of ectleg. had. heel' graireried on this 04,00.14011 by the most liberal poiltyl—qttitedietiefrem. rty 4a politics; a trod he m ust say they'llart,g4qp,fte An 7 party in yielding their Opinioiti, in order to . tie to the peeple. of Irelanil Tith . the peopleor i tzt,fiej.tiiin. If the Bill had defeets, It was tor . .W4-.law them, to reinedy Blinn ; and he thviiight every, person tws , 0 -401*. 44b4154s .-t**POiti .sissastsiktfelifelPts - 140 this Feld megeure eche thpegnt. neoessary.,:iNithout - ?hid clause ! Aii, l .tOitk- !Lill , I'M'et t i." V cb " ; " ed ; ; ~thereWoiitdOot„ b,. ' smoky, tor ,the tetelitsvia.— Getttiettien should-not . 'appose,. that . granting =the i Catholics. admission to the high o ffi ces lb I* arttit, Navy, and pe:law; Would, not, enik.ff the Catholics `more eager 'to icquirertfie remeiniiikprivileges. lie WWI( Not, for sir hoar,. cOnsid . l,lprjh'ilAattified ; tiqti•ilitibe think they should he satiifiZZ. ever thought he would not be teased bi , ,t - ka-Gatbplicl to tgraetthe remainiquptivileges Weti44:lo, 44 . ;ceiVed , rand . he thought he ought to be aecereed.. ... 1 , Sii.l. C. lIIPPISLEY said the el had his , tisist cordial 441f:orb After ; .or. tk o kiiirio4;the Catholics 'Toted for flee reigns.. When , the: question for expelling.tbe Protestant Bishops., was propeseti 1 i 24 Catholic Peers. irted against the .nieltoo., 4 llo‘illt 1 been subjected to the animadversions of the flight 1 lien: Geatlemun (bff. Cannitsg), whose Rerichpl'iih::,ti been alluded io by, the . .Canning),. Ter ,Bellfeetis - say, that:hie-conduct was consistent. .Althaegh thP clause in itself.. had hie epprebation, PS, *it so mt in the Bill, he could' not . give it his support; bu n t he would net give it his nagatiee. pf th e _Right, o". Geutleinitt he pould cepplaie, but be 4imnseded no 1 reparation; if the.. ig h ..[lop.;Optitleman could excuse . himself, it ; yip. ,setkcent. • T he princip al charge, made by the Hight 41on. Geoi le • -ooks, spiost ;:1 it temporal, for those a i t.,,ii!) would be the iseiftabl 1 1. :' strong haud of •powei i. pallllitehrsehwocahoiltictkipestiheolieshtliotde, as , . the wildest of theta 4 . .. —lf this Bills passed, . 1 it - sion for ristrlctions 11 all, (la or es from 'sot ' s 1 , • The [Lambe' Catbolie Ittly, without being i ~ adherence which' al* of every desiription faittly be is so dun ; t at we woold give t o othar; oe; iilopert r j ' a iw nal saw posed, i cao iso witimv , ~ , oat , , ~, ::*.„. A `, . Wee ? Did-the Right e too...aid !mimed Genttp. Ir ''" s .'5.- -- 7 to alikeititain.eseiosio6iii, '!iiii. be 0 i' , • 4 /"Trasit WE' , , 4,,.;. par. 8.0, can . i imi ,: . .44. . s ot.. - . •• . ~ . ~ ' 4 E- flip k .eee theta* i ,4 , * is J t would Decoys% Catholic s ', i , Ipp ' ,td- , ,',. - .'. ~ f. , ..:,, ... 4 1 .. -, , L .'` . '.. '.. i i rsi a' !. .r t, , 's , t . ‘' ..."-'''' ' l- U7 t th el a l e tt i- Cotens weidd ittee lnYr . e v r rh a ere eg t i h i r Ca itc t P holl li c e l e Cou Vir ld A°l g e d t on, meWn - at" . 11 ;6 1 .. '441" ;' • • ''' d ' ' 1 -I1- 0 .. :the • • • .A the were teb ll . l llMl l ll. sk . C •-•-•-•,,, . ~ e ., .. , the p oser ? --4 b bole w ho . gar could take away. Su t t let e k cefst 4e our sars e s o*, 4 _b*_ ne warr tia d- ..mt .'' _ 04,........ . , . r/t . p. hi- They would car tt y 'ow ~ . •-..a . iv i ii ;1; t ..,. i .,,,i It ' -, L. ob , i 1 ' . - . ---' ' . Pa p lot , y the Gathollca s through . the means of a in. the Crown itself *lot get foto the heeds, of. e. Ca . - .. r ..., _ et ies _ ! • nt .t* ..... . . 1.• ,a. 'and the par were to the him, and tell bids, , i •i • '' - . • • thatk.itil Rilbh •, • 7. .. --. 11. ... ',., • •,i '! 1 ,- ocaol, of Pi O POSs Members s 1 1 0 ,ahlo,spelkersa to:Wart tit<Con. wis' lhollc. 'Hi tililitril! imagirp!te iiti w Ar ra n g , ~ ~ , ~., . ~, ft . , , .i 'ib. . „ ti 1 ....41 . tliiit:flie p l e. 0141, and teeltpiika, via l iki l ; toi t - Vgaiiii ... . .;;!,7 „ . tilig, , . i to : .. d • I . . re *lt s'r roWer? "There-was A,' 3 .t • font who would not he mau f fi . s .. I' tbett.4io iitte ..' .-, if , 715lUtillasigkliad any . ran, bait, wilting to deprive them irpivileges that they wished an cool4,soy, wheth er, alter the ialdie to abuse: but theae.werejleagiaacy. fears. The only oneiof the Hight lion . Gatiot a an breh I be. tab foundation for hit apprehends** i,, 1101110 i 1 11,. ." ' is, PP, the. what he said in that House, backed ht the - great 'if pit aid of . 10 ..-rst. the C t i . fo of Eng l and ciliate in the .10ill,.01: 4 twoi tette to the catholic,: was sort, authorities he bad tit:cited, idgbt.otherarise prodakce 'a liquid littli, a il o et on it eitlie." And- the first. Tlits'Ottl„Y tlitoeftif SelUe'lollieTviejlept i - what Can cis, Iff • 00 11 "SES ' . 61 11 follOw from Was the fi rst. .0 they were 4(4eated 4' to e list itior the very pernicious impression on the public mind.!-- sof Those who were adverse to the Catholics would be i sPeh 'an ei ... ?-I.t wit; got-the least " felting, wl4ll l , be itusta t ,th e y woul not • be, .he iuld glad to lay bold of the elt p tess i 9N ,..aisalig . from iittek 4 Shirai.; 79, did any one foreiee the - downfall would care Mlle for .the rest. The Test Act had setiln lie Fratich MoitaiOhyl?..!—Huttaio • foresight was !been:called an ACSenagt4 'by the and • high authority, to em Ploy it . for tbefr porpoieS.-- goon to ; bat lA , Oti s 9cl sheeld be employed against the oc. I, castors, united been *toted to, have been passed, i n mid ,The public would 'be, perpetually, called riadore of onr . ah. fight ' observe, that the Speaker of the 'House .of Coin - !Ciir.. , g 01.aliprotli, pOsiibilities. While things ! order to prevent the Roion Catholics sitting In that that the Crown itself Might get Into I remained o.thei were it . ofesenti• he bad no great I house; which statement was true, but noito,th# fill rro. ' monsbad said, that the hands of a Cathalic, and that .he 'had 'recOted; iPPretiflinikm of foreign power. He believed the i extent. The Test Act was passed principetly with a dies no answer. The Right, Hen. Gott - vitae had not i Cathouca Were royal;. but did it follow from that i view to -turn ,Out fiord ,Clifford, a Minister ' oh. m id i a d o p te d th e m os t pk t ilammitary mode of Urging his i thathey onid'nOt prefer a Protestant Church ot , l noxiotis to the were hod' Oki large party in tftat elk objections to MS Rah All aPPosilion d4 l l . !ndreilt 1 04 . . 191tiapc.onip ?-It . ,!p contended that 1 Mime. Butif if a ll o! egl . that that Act swas