The Statesman. — London, England, 1812-05-15 00:00:00

I ri # I .1 r:.•7 I , I l i. 7. • 't ~~ "~~ 1~ „, .. . , • • • ! I I '~ ) qit '; . _ • LI/P a! I. PA It I. AMENT. }mug; OF LORDS, Msv 14. The licrnse met about half past one o'clock. A entwidarahle number of Lards attended. all of whom t with the exception of one or two) were either dres..ed in foil Court suits of or in militars uniforms. with crapes mind thelr arms. The.r Ln oWillis, VerV 50941 after prayers, adjnorited till half E ig three. and proceeded to present their Address to ihe Prince Regent. A hoot a quarter before four the House resumed and again had pi - qtrs. Tae I.ORn cif AWELLOtt read the Answer of his Royal ' fliganess the Prince Regent to the .Iddress of the House, stating the satisfactintvf his Rival Highness at the concurrence of the House in enahßngbinJ soake a pr-vi,ion for the widow and family of Mr.. Perfiel,Tor.which they had a just claim ,on . the liblwallty of the otlic, and l a i n .vpini that lire of Mr. Per ceval, whose pu bic andlifaate virtues so eminently him to re:attl a.td f, , A,10. should ',roe been prematurely abridg ed y the baud of an as:as:in. Mr. Sotherlao I presented an'Arcomit 'of the Emolitments of the Office 40entlenan fisher of ere Black Rod for the last ten curs. which was ordered to lie on the talvlv. And Mr. Hill. from the Tretts.try, pre:enter! no Account of Ninnies raised for the public service, which was ordered to he printed. After reading two or three private Bill. the llouse resolved itself into a Committee on the Orden vt i - ounril. Mr. Josiah Wedgesvuosl, of Ltitiria, in Statfor - Vire; Mr. Ste venson. also a putter of Statfordollie;Nir. Pori:, of Birmingham, and other sr ititc , ses, were examiricri. 'Soon after nine the Irvine resumed, and after °Merin.: the est aniination of a ititesses to recommence to..aourrow at two o'clock, a.ljonnted till to-morrow day). TIrE STATMIAII. II01.1;E OF COMMONS The' Speaker owl( th- dr at two &dock, and shortly idler nearly `3 1 1 4 .1 %knit. •rs were assembled, ninct of them in fill C.nori-olto n, Officer. in atival and pillitary tin'forms, with crapes round their arnn. and Atm ttinistets in mourning. -- - the provision and the animal an iacome of 65001. would not act up to the professions WWI) thOy so ties ; in the 4ni,t of which, he saitl, Mr. Perceval had of Parliament; so that the interest of for the purpose of maintaining —v un animously evinced oil Tuesday, if -they did not eXpended more than the sum then proposed to be of 5u,0001• with this private fortune, make an ample and liberal provision for the e ld es t settled on hi s - - Anu . li e t h oug ht a l so a gre a t deal was grant of 20001. would coustitist , Ile lamented that the Noble due to him on accohnt of his forbearance, self-denial, and educative, this w h en he originally brought the provi sion uu- and disregard of his personal interest, or the more family. Would any country genttema• w ith g son of Mr. Perceval.— Lord, der th&cowsitleihtioa of„ . tlitll2utie,.bad not gropo- reanote one of providing for his family, In bestowing all income, consider it i , adelpiate to 41'. such sed to tiontilie 11 . grent . T-Pfcdr ! hear !) —elf liv so lately the valua'Sle o like of one of the 'tellers of e mily to any profession or situation in : l i f e.tle i his fa ; had proposed 100,0001. wietend of : 0 0,0001. he was the ExcheqUer on the Right lion. Gent. near him lie understood the House was to be calt e l w v ein . stertee House would have acceded to the proposi- (Mr. Yorke). If he had advised his Sovereign to morrow to vote a monument for elr.elPeu)ln to. eon unanimon,ily.—Plear, hear!]—Stire lie was confer it on that youth alluded to in the Resolution, These things grow upon :is very f ^"al•— ast. [Hear !] thereiritlghttiott. Gent. (Mr. Ponvoirby) who se- not one voice would have condemned him for so lie wouti conclude with solemnly protesti • ng against conded the Motion, would have advocated the larger doing. Lend Sidmouth, when in the same situation, ' the additional grant. grant. had given a similar place to his son, and no one lad Lord BINN.NG said it was too late now to IT - Lord CA-STIAFABY 4 1\c / 1-j r cejniiitled the lion. Geizt. ever. found fault with it. He thought it cruel that Bret that propositions should have 'men b . brought for. that his observations app Wild to the third resolution, Mr. Perceval, who had fallen eietaerifice. to the set- , ward to Interrupt the unanimity of Vie ii • , e ' arid the two arst had tat been disposed of. vide of his country, should to tßaeSedy publet flute- :I propositiOns had already b ' oust. The een made; they would be "The first and. second Resolutions were then read, tionary whose family would be injured by his accept- ' entered on the Journals ; and he wou - 11 ask the and agreed to Pen:. con. . ing otlire; and the motion had, therefore, his hearty Hoese, if they would t . them? H nega ire e denied On the died Resolution being read, support. . that the acceding to• them could in wise ae‘ be eon , Mr. HUSKISSONadvet tiog to the vote which he i Mr. .TIERNEY lamented that an occasion for a I strued i n t o p o liti c al aperebavioa ; there was not one Ilitil given on the preceding night, observed, that he discussion should have helm introduced, which made I single word in the Resolutions which could be con voted against the previous question, as it was neces- i it necessary for him to take a part extremely painful . strued into any such approbation. nary to come to a vote, the unanimity originally i to his feelings. The present was, he must say, a - 1 Mr. HOME SUMNER was not coevinced by any proposed having been departed from. With respect ; very unusual. mode of procee di n g. It was certainly .of the arguments +treed by a Right lion. Gen - l • man to the Resolution for providing for the eldest son of i very unusual to give an menial grant to one child (Mr. Tierney) for postponing the consideration of the late Right lion. Gent. after the decease of his . during the life of a parent in pessession of a similar the Resetutiens. rite Rig-,t lion. Geed enan had mother, that might be very well. But did the House grant, when a provision had been airee ,y giveu to ' asked for a precedent. lie really could see little dite see the situation in which a grant of that kind might , the whole of the children. -- - Ile thought the pre f erence iii principle, between proposing a grant of place the young mane- he might or might not stand in sent was altogether an improper time for the dis- the public money in the absence of the First Lord of weed of it,at that time. Was the liaise aware that cussion of this question. lie thought that sa me the Treasu r y , and votin g such a g ra nt i n h is t e e th, as if was likely lie might succeed not only to t he name i time ought to have been allowed, previous to ekes- : was done by the Right Hon. Gentleman in the case but to the splendid' talerits and abilities of his la- '' ing upon the consideratiou,,evete if the first proposi- 'of Colonel Palmer. it had been said by an Hon. mented father—U./cur! !scar 1) —that he was a : lion ; but what took that case out of the general . Gentleman (Mr. Whitbread), that Mr. Perceval en. young man of the most promising abilities, and that Irule, was the universal acquiesdente of the House in : tered voluntarily into his situation, and that'he was it was intended he should pursue his studies at one of : its propriety. In his opinieet: no business whatever i not compelled to accept it. Undoubtedly no power the Universities, to fit him for passing through life : ought to be proceeded in for a week at least. In •1 in existence could compel him to accept it ; but he with honour and advantage to himself, whether in :, the course of a week he might satisfy himself, by i might have accepted it. as he firmly believed, from the profession of his nether, or whatever other situa- ,conversation or otherwise, as to the propriety of ac-lan eminent sense of duty, although persuaded his in. don, was not now the question. The Ili-use meet be i ceding to or voting against this new proposition.— I teresfmight be affected by it. Convinced of the great expence attend in g a liberal I He wished to hate this time for the satisfaction of his I - Lord CASTLEREAGH was desirous of saying a education, and the impossibility of maintaining that ; own feelings.--[A murmur cf disapprobation. few words upon the peesent occasion. He should rank and station at College upon a bare 2001. per . from 11 the opposite part of the .ouse.] Surely not do justice to the Honourable Gentleman ow. annum. The only resource, therefore,-, he could Ihe had as good a right to gratify his feelings as i site (Mr. Whitbread), if he did not say that he had have (unless the House took his situation into con- I the Honourable Gentlemen had to gratify their's.— shewn as warm a concern on the late melancholy ocs sideration) was to depend upon his mother, and the; [Mears] —Could any Gentleman state an instancelcurrence, as it was possible for any person to dis. deficiency of the maintenance must be supplied out i when a proposition for a grant of public money was ° play ; but that Honourable Gentleman had given a of the income of Mrs. Perceval, or from ihe provi- submitted to the House, at a time when there was no , very imperfect representation of the circumstances, sion made for the other children. Under these cir- First Lord of the Treasury, consequently when the under which his late Right Honourable Friend had cumstauces, he thought the House ought to make the country was without an Administration ?--Was it . left his profession. ,He left it under a deliberate grant more effectualeeconsidering the nee of the i proper in this House, to airailebeteleelveeof such an ! conviction, that he was sacrificing the interests of his young man, and give him something immediately. interval, to vote a large sun% of the public mone y . famili, to a sense of duty. It was the decided con . Suppose 100 a le-year from this time, or from the i merely under the influence of feeling ? What harm, . viction of his own mind, that by complying with s moment of his coming of age. Ihe would ask, could possibly result from this delay? desire which he conceived to be mandatory on him, Sir A. PIGGOTT made some observations as to I Could the lion. Gentleman who made the proposition 'he Was sacrificing the interests of his family. The the wording of the Resolution, in order that the j entertain a doubt that the merits of Mr. Perceval ! House might recollect that shortly after the period House might not decide in the dark. The Resole- j would survive one week in theirrecollections? There when his Right Honourable Friend accepted his sis Hon proposed to provide for " the male descendant ; did appear to him something wrong in voting away ' tuation, his Majesty did intend, by a Grant, to mi of Mr. Perceval, being the heir at law." Now the ! the public money in the present situation of the House. tigate that sacrifice ; but his Right Honourable son of a daughter of Mr. Perceval might be the heir I Ile was aware, when lie said this, that the First Lord Friend stept in on that occasion between the ineetts at law, lie thought therefore, that it should be speci- lof the Treasury's opinion was not an infallible rule (ion of that Grant and the execution of it. This fically stated " the eldest son of the late Mr. Pence- 'to guide the opinion of the House ; but it would be . virtuous sacrifice of his late Right Houourttble val," to avoid error. I allowed, that italways had been considered decorous , Friend, was a feature in his character which ought General MATHEW was of opinion that t he Ito ente rtain no g eneral business, much less to vote , to call forth the libera lity of Parliament towards his gent was not of sufficient magnitude, not what a ; away the public money, in his absence. lie should . family. At the period when he left his professlor., great country like England ought to give.—[hear t : therefore move that the further consideration o f this , it would be admitted he left it with t high deg r ee Of hear!] —If the Hon. Gent.. was to move to grant I Resolution be postponed to tliateday senniglit, and ; profpssional character. Ile had the future prospect 20001. a-r ear for the eldest son of such a man, he : if, after the recess, he should find himself compelled of great professional emoluMents e and his profits at should not think it too much. ,to vote auainst it, it would be a satisfaction to his ' the limo we r e actuall y ver y liberal. He had to state Mr. HUSKISSON intimated his intention , for t he' own mind that he had not done so without the ma- , from Mr. Perceval's family, that they entertained reasons before stated, of proposing to vote 100(,l.' turest consideration. 1 the deepest sense of the libetelity of Parliament. a-year, without prejudice to the grant of :MO'. to'. On this Amendment. being seconded, He would not be instrumental in advancing the V ote Mrs. Percerat, Sir G . WARREN DER objected to the amend- I Ise, 'eh might beilven that night ; but if the Resole. Mr. J. W. WARD thought the arguments which meta, as he was perfectly convinced it was necessary ' tion should be adopted, and afterwards approved Of the lion. Geutleinan (Mr. Huskisson) had used, to make an honourable provision for the eldest son, , on the Report, he should certainly afterwards eeW might with equal propriety apply to the other sons. on his coming to majority, being in his opinion, in favour of the Bill. He could not see the Miran& When he recollected this, and further, that the sums more to be pitied than any other part of the family. Cage of postponement. originally proposed, had received the approbation of Ile hoped the motion for recommitting the Resolution • Mr. TAN li I NGTON contended that there was the friends of Mr. Perceval's family, he was bound , would be persevered in. no deficiency ;n point o' form is the proceedings. It to soppert the original proposition. j Mr. TIERNEY explained. had been introduced to the Idoese by a Message front Mr. WALLIS declared that in his opinion .the : Mu. WHITBREAD said, although he might on a !the Throne, brought by a Minister of tee Crown. yoniig man who was the representative of Mr. Per- : division vote in favour of the postponement, he had : It was not necessary that this Message should be ceN al, ought to ht.* every advantage which the not the smallest hope that any additional time would brought by the Chancellor of the ExChequer. The country could give him. [titer, heat !] Yester- alter the adverse opinion 'salt% 'heenise entertained , Honourable Member concluded his speech et the fol• day evening he had voted fur:the Amendment of the : of the Resolution under diedeslont . He could not . lowing words :—" I will mention li circumstance Nolte. Lord. Because he was desirous of preserving help adverting to the allusion which had been made : deeply calculated to impress the feelings of the House. unanimity , but as the House had decided by a large . to what had been called an understanding among , e saw L or d A r d en , the brother of Mr. Perceval, majority, against that Amendment, he felt himself some Members of.the House, and made in such a . overwhelmed with grief, and his hand placed upon at liberty to give way to his feelings for the memory I way as to insinuate thitt something like an improper Lees body, near the part where the fatal wound was of his much-tempted Friend, and in testimony of interference had been used by those Members. He; inflicted :—' My brother 1' he exclaimeds ' you the high regard in which he held his virtues and fa- I owned a communication had been made to him by et ; are gone I .—you are gone to Heaven I.—but your lents, he was ready to vote for any additional grant 1 Noble Lord opposite, of what was intended to pro- ' children—e --e-' His children,' reviled an Hon. that might be proposed. pose to the thou te; for the family of Mr. Perceval, es P I hope I Member standing by, ' are his count:" . Mr. W. SMITH came down, determined not to I but this could not be considered in the light of any ar- ! this declaration will be verified, and that the libera 'oppose what so lar a majority of the :louse had rangement on the subject. He b elieve d he would ; lily of Parliament will protect them in a Manner arks ' declared to be thei r opinion. Ile was nevertheless ' , have credit with his political adverearies,when he said : 'ciu ate to the occasion." convinced of the danger of wetting the door to any ; that it was with great pain he entered into the iiresent I Mr. HUSKISeON contended that the provision, eeteneed vote. lie *regretted that the personal chi-' dieenselon. He felt,what he believed was strongly felt I las it applied to the eldest son, Was quite insufficient. meter of Mr. Perce.vars son had been introduced all an abhorrence of thelate atrocious and disgrace ! . , •• ~ by v I The younger children of Mr. Perceval might imm. just. tho disentsetotie es. it was wholly 'irrelevant ; to ; ful deed, and he thought it isitesehe duty of the House nicaltite themselves and their pursuits to tie - it eircune it. Tiro appeals lied been made to the (Masse ito manifest their sentimentrotesuch en eccesiow, ley i stance -• : s but the eldest' on, who was jute open the one to their feelings, ,the other to their judgment.— making each a provision fox the family of Mr. Perce- p oint of be i ng sent to th e U n iversity by his father , They had answered the first by expressing in words, ' vas, as had beets originally submitted to the House . was placed in a veto different condition, and tie its strong as the British language would afford, their But when it was proposed to go beyond this, he ;question was, whether from the moment he quitted detestation and abhorrence of the crime that had. could consider it in no other light than as a reward the University, and embraced some liberal profession, been committed, and their sense of the public and for political services. —[No ! no! . from seregal it ' in ' 1 he should remain a burden up on his mother, or wits private virtues of the individual on whom it bad bers.] — And in d eed he -should be a traitor. to his I the,- he should be placed in a state of independ ace been committed. When they came to the provision catintry, and be declaring loudly that all the oppoe i suitable to his station in life, and the prosp ects he that was to be made for the family of that individuel, ' sition which he had always *maintained to the RIP 3. i mia-lir have. He, Mr. liuski :son, had been accused their jUdgment, wee necessarily to be consulted.— esures of the present .esninistratiote was mothilie ! eulogis i ngof th ell tof that young man; lie hal e en s For his part, he thought it Would be wise to post- more than mere empty profession, if Ie did not loud- i • done no such thing; he had merely expressed the pone the consideration of the- subject for a week, ly protest against such reward.' Without wishing to I hope that he would inherit not only the name, bat when the House er ould be more cool upon it. The say ally thing unpleasant, he would ask, if it was' the eminent qualitira eons of his father. necessity bad been urged of making a handsome not reward, what was it ?—What was the career of I Mr. NIART IS (of Galway) considered the an:. 1 , provision for Mrs. Perceval, and all the family ; Mr. Pet•ceval ?-11is career was altogether of his own i . t proposed a mere act of justice. Ile alluded 10 there *ere mmy di ff erences of opinion as to what selection. He obtained a seat in that House by Ito- i 1-Y for 1 Mr. Poilsonby's pension of 40001.sper aennne ; was a handsome pi r ision. Under all the circum- nourable means ; but if he took a seat in the liot:se i .. been Ch •.11or of Ireland, for only - aka having anu. stances oe the ase t i l lie 4id uot see the necessity.— met efierwards. accepted ontlAituatemeof Pet tic Mi. 1 • n, mont h's. All that he thought this House bound to do. .on the tester, it was altogethei• his own selection. Ile might . became so loud The cry of questiin, question, then spur of the occasion, was, to vote . some thi eg , to have accepted it,. or have refused it; he could slot be that no other speaker could be heard. chew their sense of ablierrefire of the late horrid * compelled to quit the Bar. They had heard a great stintisnctio u n, without ere its. eing iiito n nice divpiiii- deal said respecting the lucrative sit uation which Mr. After - teneento what might he, the cost of eite education of Perceval quitted. His information ou this subject for peel -Mr. Perceivers children. Fur the zees*, , however, was somewhat different. lie had been told that' lu- third Re i erehieli he had assigned At the commeeennent of his endive judicial situations had been offered to Mr. • eurntter, sPeech, he should relVaiii from voting, on elm present Perceval, and that he chose rather to retain the situa- row. question. The Hou. Member then made his bow, 'llorisleviikh he held at his death: He thought the men- The II and retired from the House, . . ; lion Sehieh had been made that meght of the abilities O r de rs . Mr. W..FITZGEatt I . .tispoke warmly in favour -of the eldest son of Mr. Perttfral, of which the it:ulled. of the third Reeolutien, a ndeostery thine engrafted - House could know nothing but from report; tend the en It. Ito ootooaotl, that :2r. Percival hells; intention of making Idle independent at the age of, einen tip ep. lucrative lirofesiiati for the purpose Of ;;al, were.ouly calculates! to injure the young man. ,t.aki ms tilidthO' Pethe4 seNitee, had hy thaVneeks 'if this wow not a reward for political services, he $ , kin , • .. impoverished hems* add lift his *roily in imi A --ntwe . ...: was intitled to inquire into the situation Of the fa ricks] and ireporMAletT state.. tie prhised his nn.' inily. He was told that Mrs. Perceval possessed an ionlatiositfiOecru9lTHatilliatttlirtitty). a* public Cheri- * i incoMil , d 20001. per innate independent of the rust le motion After Some conversation, Mr. Tierney's mows for pf4stpoiiiig the'gnostioa . wax negatived ; and tho third Resolution proposed yeste rda y b y Mr. lic!ifie , :otinier, was ordered to be recommitted for to.mor• row. The louse then resolved into a •Connnittee on etc Orders in Council and examined nitnesses.—ia. journod. • • ---•••••`te Mrs.. nENRT JOHNSTON.—It is not true. OS 0 - 3 4 reported, that this lady has obtained a sl ar.• of the •20,0001. in the late Lottery ; this fortunate holder was Mrs. Parker, the celebrated ,Columbine. lady, we believe, is Mrs. Johnston's moth • which, ia some measure, accounts fa; the report. • THE LATE MR. PERCEVAL. After a considerable pause, Lord cAsTLER.EAGH moved, that Mr. Lush ittgron have leave to report frohi the Committee.of the whole House, upon the Message of his Royal Highness the Prince, respecting the Provision for the Widow and Family of the late Right lion. Spencer Mr. LUSIIINGTON appeared at the Bar with the Rep..rt. On the question for bringing it up, Mr. H. SUNINER rose, and observed, that after he quitted the House the preceding evening, he un derstoed an acraegement had been made upon the subject of the provision for the family of the late Mr. Perceval, to which he would not give his consent. — The two first Resolutions (three having been come to by the Committee) had passed. withoutany objection, but the third, !epic!) he had the honour to propose, had been postpenM for further consideration. Thus giving to that Iresolution, which had met with the concurrence of a large majority of the House, a doubtful aspect. The operation of the postponement would have the effect of disparaging that Resolution, and if in,proposing it he had merely stood in the si tuation Ed . an insulated individual, he should have considered himself bouni to protect his motion, but he stood in a very different light; he was protected and supported in it by a majority of from six or seven to one in its favour. If the Report was now brought up, and any objection made to the third Resolution, he should feel the necessity for pressing the House to a division on its adoption or rejection. Lord CAqI.EREAGII had no obir: tion to the Resolution, at least, he had been friendly for unani mity on the occasion, and he trusted the lion. Gen tleman would see how desirable it was. At present, as the Rouse was waiting to go up with the Address, it might be as well if the Report was firelight up, and then after the asvembly of the Rouse at five o'clock, on the return from Carlton House, should any difference of opinion arise, the Report might be discussed. The Report it as then leought up, and nrdered to be taken into fuither consideration at five o'clock. THE ADDRESS. The SPEA KER. then acquainted the House that; the time was arrived (half past two o'clock) ter go- I ittg ty with the Address, accordingly, the House adjourned till liv e o'clock, and the Right Hon. Gen- I tleman, accompanied by Lord Castlereagh and. Mr. I Pottionby (th`4 l .Mover and Seconder), and the whole of the House, proceeded in their carriages to Carl ton House. Soon after five o'clock the Gallery was re-opened, when the SPEAKER. stated, that the House, in pursuance of its Resolution, had waited upon the ; l'riace Regent with the Address, to which his Royal l Ilighttess had been pleased to return a most gracious answer, to thu following effect : " I !Teri ve with !ail-faction the a , ,suranee that you. will en nhlc meta provide fur the widow and family of the late Right lion. Spencer Pdrceval. " It is a most benevolent mock. of disposing of the public money, aud nue most gratifying to my feeling. in marking with I peculiar diitinction, the family of au individual, whose talents and virtues h td been snatched by au act of unparalleled aftocity, from the service of Nis country." OR.DERS IN COUNCIL. Mr. NI.kRRYAT I', itt- the :limner! of an lion. '1 Alderman, Member for the City of London, pre voted a Petition from certain Merchants, Ship-own ers, and Traders of the City of London, in favour of the Orders in Council, praying that the same may not be repealed, but be continued, as a retalia tory system against the enemy, until the .Orders of the enemy are revoked. The Petition was laid on the table. MONUMENT TO THE MEMORY OF THE LATE MR. PEACE:VAL _ Lord CIA YE gave none that he th.iuld to.mor row more an humble Address to his Royal Highness the Prince Regent, humbly ,praying tlint lie would be graciouslv.pleased to give directions for erecting a monument to the men i ory of the Bight Hon-Spencer .Perceval, in the Cathedral Church M tk. Peter,. at Westminster. Lord CAITLEREAGII moved the ftirthei tbnst deratif.n of the Rosolutiofis of the Committee, for providi,tg for the family of the late Mr. I'erceval. Mr. C. A I.)A MS ‘vislieno make a few observations upon the subject. The lion. Gent. stated, that he • had net the honour of an intimate aequitintailez? with the Late lamentql flight !•;)n. Gent. whose fainily Mere lite objects of the present 'notion—the puhlid' and priiiite virtuts of that distinguished man had been So ablypotirtratted by Gentlemen more Capable titan himself, that he could not add any language which he ceittld use to the testimony so Justly be stowed. But it ti:%s impossible to rticoflect•te tsa gedy of Monday without emotions which could not entirely sabtide-4 t6getl *Which had awfully away from the scene y of Ifle, a man io emi-' ner.oly qualified foso his nubile itation, and borne him to the Went_ graft. With refitted to the grint—s• and to fliit he Pintititt 'idte:=-14 througgt &"#I we 4f-r-