The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-05-10 00:00:00

~ ~ ~. t ilni=•M• might be exparted when it fell to Ca. The durum._ . , of they conk, not of course ruptruul. In the re solution of his. Hon Friend, it was proposed that warea, • house man shonld be admitted at a lower price than feeeigo. Oe that part of the subject lie differed from ...AM wile egreed with him in concurring with leislie. ingettile Friend. The effect of such a regulation might • bills obviate the iatroilectiou of foreign corn allege ..;eiser is away eases. • Mr. RICARDO Considered . the argument of the Rohl , `,Lord to beat variance with some of his adrnistionl. " Notwithstandieg what had been said of the property eeiharked in agriceltoral pursuits. he doubted if it were grookr than the dead capital of the manakicturisg in terest An Hon. and Learned I kutleinan had mid, that; 'almost the whole cost of agricultural produce Was made , elo 0(40. He did not consider that a great . deal of property ley dead in buildings, in seed in the ground., and other articies dianected - with the Idiom . of the far ' me,. Rat thee the manufacturers had much capital' laying 'load in machinery, and in the works which were' rywessiiry to carry on their businesa„, The proportions ' of capital time employed he believed to be much greeter thin had been suited, and thilrefore in legislating ot this subject, he thought but little allowance ought to be made ter the large capital claimed as being itOplued exclusively in agricultural pursuits. The ken. shillings duty oh imported corn, which lie was,disposed to allow, VaP, in fact, more than could be given, strictly *tibiae( ;dm principles for which be had untende d had „, rropad that sum, considering the farmera to bear the • ors rates, the county rates. and the tithes In fall. But poor's rates' were also paid by the manufacturer, though not in the same proportion as by • the agriceltorist. If "Ise strictly kept to bia principle, Instead of On be should . .' "have named but seven shillings. The difference betwer• ' seeen and tea shillings was at all events fully sufficient to cover the difference between the situation of the sari rultutist and that of the manufacturer to which anus,* . had been made. He would now notice what had fa 1 from the Hon. Member ter Corte Castle. He ( • Rankin) had talked inucli of !he wielom if their. an tors. .Ikle (Mr. Ricardo) would admit tinitouet ' slid undoubtedly Possess great wisdom ; bat he did , hesir#itp to.say, that lit his opinion the preemie rue than poasesiied all the wisdom of their propellors. a . 1 little more WO the hargain.—(Alaugh.)—Accordin the principle for which that Hoe. lientlentss Oats we ought, to rest exactly where we had been left by anecdote, and in no instance attempt to get forward ourselves. 'But the preseat geoerauon had proved t • veleta capable of improving on what bad Iwo chipe„ ' their forefathers. They had invented sleeve-boats, , lights. and fishily other things of great 'value and im take,' acid *the therefore not to be vieWita as at all in rior be thole who had lived before' them.' They OU , not therefore to say, because'llie nation had fieurj in their nine, that nothing more could be dose' he ' now. The argunaint which the pun.. Hentlemme psed'in tide case litikhtbe . Uplifted fo ' tooth" eh He 'Might, say' tliat•but ' a keeeters ' had 'nit-S[llW I that with that debt the della bad ffeeriskid;iall t . fore it would be very surt ip to attempt io attf get ifil Wit. He might 'iterf sa t r u tia 'as' / t , s ill hail ideally advawra: "• erg erg . 4serde • 006(1111 the tine ease II Will! other. • tatted" tillrfili• '1 tention of the house to the Situation in *Mete 'the 'blew try would be placed, anal kite the lain which • lailisailiq is the event of it war,•if it•ralbtid 'Owl titles of perinea Root the soil for•the peepose oi. __ int the raw prodere. • An • Hon: fireieber lite &gland was.beeneolcor'tms much •of to ogrimil country. He might think that an agricultural or was happier than a maotifarturlsig country, but •'— , ploitraf•thle war iamb shallow* as colapiablieff' man misiaimmilliartaitthatilo grew old. Natioas ' Weir iehthlellifielld - olii id ikil bill adividualo,•enti in Waste wawareatittges 611hdie elfitteette," they " oitnefecteverv. This use al natural steer* 'of i sot mite it be pr coated in thecae's ofilughtuil, a weelamilabeeseemiee to sat limiter to Aver greatness, . . resolve against going tire/ant be the miuusirs. , 'lf that malaise was taken which is his silnjelorto•be'takeo, the Indian would become 11'; o‘lttifeetutinei nation. list it would at the same ....._ _ rinierticelteral nation also. It was. impossible free 0 30agiawil not' tette a great ogricalturakeonotry. But 11, -Vtied irk With to set halite to our growing geed , • 'lee shenld become richer' and more powerful; if -• atoMed c•vditting ()entrees to owe own resources gybe ageicailisee was concerned, and were contest to perchiee • part of ebeleed from foreign oodyntries,oepplying therm with theitorom modities, in which our manefacentiog skill emitiletarsteexcel. But it had boon asked' bow • was this to be done? Cosh, the•farsners tarn mans facturets and the ploughmen beetles mechanics? To hear loch 'questions pet it might be supposed that it wesirseontempllition art:intent chaste our system and, immediately to throw open our ;sorts to receive the corn • ferret ill phrteof the world.• Bat has any inch preposi tion bees *might Wrote ihe banana; Ho did sot feel . tHathe'had coluiteeinetyl ant 'thing of the hied, when he proposed that the farmer should enjoy a perfect ash • varrpoirtif the hems wilirket no to 70.. and it had been adulated' thee 675. was's remunerating price, and when • on knelt' wheat brought iota above PM., be wished to . imposes dole - erns., which was - to be only reduced bY one shilling der learter in each year till it came down • to las:: thee to remain perninnent. When he recom mended the'ethiption of inch measures mild it with ins tics liOlniteitted to his that be wished to tarn the capital lend( ths amenity from apricelture temansfaateres? That this would be done there wares easel tis feat. • The very. ' difficulty of deing it offered Wilda* oecerity. that it, 4 could est be done. It had beeliested that kites impoe, Ac *ibis more capital could be emplowed in the manaufam »ries than was already so employed. Why, if such' fi-eresti the ease, as it was Impossible tbr theyieopie of this iseetry to buy corn from foreign countries but with • their manafeetures, the agricultural interest could have .•: nothing softer, and they had the best security against. she apprehended evil that could by *ay possibility be ob tained. He however believed that if his resolutions were carried, that gradually more capital would be employed in oar snaonfactories, and it was because this would-prove beatheial to all parties that be wished to see these resolutions adopted. He slid mot question the strives diameter of the existiog distress, but all that he hod beard on the subject bad • only served to confirm the view which he had , originally taken of it. The Hon. Member fur Wiltshire had said oe the preceding night, that a suppiroffseeige corn could be obtained at Wis. per quarter. He (Mr.' . • Ricardo) bad that morning received a tette; Pool, Me. .• Holly, in which that Gentleman declared that ths•alckel -.- which he had inentioDed ulna giving his evidence be.. - sere the Committee. was not the accidental price at which it might be, got at $Ollllll particular .periodi butt he had named what he knew to bu site remunerating price. It was not by an accidental price but by the re - munerating price that their proceedings ought to he re gulated. With respect to the price at winch it might be obtained at Memel in last January, Mr. Sony stated that was not a port from which any cousiderable sup ply cou ld be expected. Not above 20,111,10 gamer* . could he obtained thence in a year. Now if sushi wire I the case irith•reapect to this pries of Gee-and-twenty Ail liage—if it had ho hitter foot to stand upon than this, it would be see, that It was utterly unworthy of the no - t;ee of that house. lie had now one objection to make on what had fallen from a Noble Lord yesterday on dm subject of the Resolutions coins into the Committee, winch he stated to bare been carried almost without a diuenting voice. lie (Mr. Ricardo) bail gone into that Committee with precisely the same view which be now tissi pwrivou tone ,be ~~~' `7 ' . • , entiliNtlleste It4}utopian 'bat ttsilitdea 4 ttiferiat ir-' self groaned under the creates; possible disttiim. and he Jethalterefotatrall - diatiosed to . do any thing that could hadole to relieve it now,' provided some .oecurit, were given that they should return to a hetierityatenamt tom Yor a time the Committee gore him roman 'o hope that they %mild not refuse macho pledges bet, when they came to make their reportethey sew 'off how tkwpoiwt, and would du nothing of the 'The con. dithicial agrees:seat which he had previonslv Mule with them was hone that mousest diseolved, anti' that being dissolved the resolutions had no longer his concurrence in their favour.' With respectua what hail been said by the Hon. Member for Hertford as to the bias soppoted to aet•on Air. Sally's Milli', he admitted that that respect- Mae Gentleman might have some bias of the kind Im puted. but he begged of the Members of that' house if they themselves were not I:kely to be in' souse degree biassed in a similar way. He hoped they would bear la mild that they were not now to legislate far themselves. Inn with a view of promoting the welfare and happiness of millions. And. doing this he begged of them also to remember that no evil was greater then having (nod too high in price, as that produced in a hundred ways the most afflicting consequences. He "Was"imonislied at what he bad heard from the Hon." Slasher for Essim.— He considered the high price of them to, be a natter of indifferencelf not of exultation. lthwislood. the price of corn to los high, hut he . wiebect.it,to.im, obtained by littleialtour. The higher the lower the real priek,.the better iu his (Mr. Vesteetts)mpioiots. , He (Mr. Itleardo) could agree with. the** lieutlsalaa in thia..huhts• we* surprised when be •thase to the teat toiled tho e the weald do nothing Ibis would immure then at a low real price. He wished that we should continue to grow our own cora, and only in very !animals,. cases import from foreign cobatries. Acting on thie plan. it was impossible for corn to be obtained at a low real price, as that could only be accomplished by purchasing it fr om other comities with our menu fa/lutes. Mr. BENETT (Wiltshire) begged tocerrect the HOls. Gentleman whe had Just art doge, tette what be bad stated to be the price of corn abroad. He had 'net said it coultiebe obtained for twenty•tive shillings the clear . ter,. ercils documents, before bins, it appeared that it cottabe percbased for 31s. and this was the price be ha4,mcptsoood. Ile spoke at soave lased' in espial's. 41.1) 4.the• view which be bad taken of the question:, and comtesded that while se mesh assisty was mask .feetedewheop faith with the public realitor, that snort aisglilleSlse takes not to breaic faith mitbillOsegiersi , Itelftilititecdtelgrogrer of Eogland. •'" • • ! 11,f vgl.3o9.Eftddici not consider thasltiiiritisent 'Ebro 51 eservedits be treated so heraldy silt - had been 'iiiijiitifelOy,themperiariee 'of . riipeging fire aml-tweety, year'. in the tit'emoratile'alid fatal year 174. /be there wu • tailors et. th bamut u a L itight Hoo. Oietteraia, Who was &ripen' aequiriteif sritli trade as most men, the law* boar. bad stated it to be hie .L t 99 gliPPOkiatlid ' w f~lil ) ab this eoeatry aim !tore a 'aim* sotp se so . Thaeg (713404 1 i 1 41.4 1 4.KA tlidithlSAßi , 4 2B 4 4- Ireat dw ;KOPP biblxPeateßW': Nl*, Porta .0 Serer mod Pflte.ife.". atone!'aa;r pYpr rice, - froth' the f P AO, r i,„ Mier eat t weq(d ,thait ,ssy tarn , Litter ~ealeot- ~ Ho .• -- - " -- 4 1,4 ,fpir nemoserstleg prir.,, Re was Joeselitattic #4l „Nobs,filln was siff,ne anxious to,rekeve, 14e1 in "ilsna t, and .cets . qtli f e' mill* rese • 11461,6' . to be. - -I favourable to the agrimeTrpire e( z the count than ; b an seme n 1 tbeg, _bad base „ , reP"e4. I diat.he .! „ . ,. 1 ; 1 4 ieess ta f 1 M. seyottnaea QP lat.trt,lo,ll t eli ran..; e 111 1 .wept whiSh 1 1 ,:bid AO, with;., . I. te pima,. f ' corm at, .9ilesa end t efber places.., hi apiditiaued wile road to he coreact..„XdprotecAng duty wield in Mr . jadgmestbe . suiripiegt;,.ta meet the evil., He wished la' system. to be edlptedrilisek should .kiiip the price .4r eutigAteette velito.h, hy, sledding, supply of fo r eig n cacao when ;be prtce ems abet' ,80th ty,nold . prevent ; it frog Pith% iee,bigb without All,y4,4 4 o4t. unlimited icePertation which might solo thsLegpcsltitre of the eoentsy,,,,(tear.) It might be 41. it to hit os the .weeps tif ;feed og this, but,shese melt esifigkrty isterest ,wat ; st Mae, they onglit sot to be deterred be such coo: - sidevidimesivesi makiag.the attempt. The Noble,Losil" bed,leakelie price of cpru. at llsetxic was 3,2i': and branght ere for .125., it; east would be des. From the mealy manner in which, the. Noble Mgr pea acted an siloccasioui . be, was.hedio hope that if he proved leis estiomte to be. wraag.„ltiwould make. souse alteration in his respfutione. 'Chi Noble Lord hail formed his ris,:. litneM,en,grais of thqfirst imality,.which would furnish hot one-4tprth of the supply. mod which would sell in qgland for,ds. mote i than the best thetcookl be raised , this cqmdry. 'rb a price of grain qf As second goa ta 'ty trims, oil ether parts(one excepted), which grain was /vial to our best, gave an average pt . aljilkine AI- Ileg timitrice which the Noble 3sOr4 _ pal elseed- it would thus be seen that the Noble Alai:Ones. on his own sliewieg., had under-ratell the protecuol ishich the landed interest of Englaiiii Might te'receive by five shil lings is the qoarver. Fiims the comparisons which he (Mr. l'iiiien) had madeje found chit wheat of the first quality might •be obtaiaedl at a pries which, when on ship-board, averaged 294. and one-seventli ; corn of the next quality averaged 2,35. sod six-saveuths. The price of atift beet cora averaged st present 525. osestentla ; the snood best averaged 43i. ned three-tenths, being a dif ference .of 23a. befits" go prices of the best wheat, &ad Ws, between those . of the wheats eli nferiur quality. Though 655. per quatter. if it coshd at all times be got. week', be a teumogratiog price of wheat. since in some year; it fell. to 'sos., be would ask if it was more than fair to allow the English agricaltariet the belied of say rise that niight take place op to 80s. To allow the ports to open at 71.15. would be only to allow lain the chance of an Olvaliee of ss, over the re remunerating price. :while he was exposed to a lims of Iss. or More by itstill ing below it. Ile admitted that it was a misfortune for Ilia country to have to pays higher price for corn than was Raid in other parts, but this became necessary (roan th e situation is which the farmer bad beta placed by a calamitous depreciatida of the currency. and the raisiog of enormous taxes by paeans of that currency which were still to be mid new the standard was restored. He aborted that cora was cheapest when its ex portation had been encouraged. and argued diet the presest distress was not the result of the farm er's fully, bat sprung ham sillier causes than overpro duction. The farmer would be content to sell his corn at a low price if enabled to do so. Let the Ministers then take 124 per rent. from the incomes of all connect ed nith the liovertimmt, from the highest In the lowest, and then let them call on the public creditor to make a ).• ' egeltokleittbeAneral good, attilothe tu& ittersoff ten* he content to do so at any extent to which the tiedlowlarts were Xi Ifv; Tilt Lib% bleuttoffin ,gortarlineton had said the capital sunk in agriculture Was tot treater than :that employed by the inenufac- Jnrer‘ Bat there was oar petit whick hi forget. Tb.e manufacturer might turn his four, five, or six times in the coarse of a year, while the poor ogriceltnria could then his ketoses. Since the pawing of the Cora Bits. 5,000,11110 quarters of grain had been itirporteil. of wblek 10311U,000 were wheel. In 1819 then wet* 1,80140110, et he would say 1,41011,900 quarters of foreigo wheat in the cowry. It we communed Otill,looo of them, it was as much se we did, and consequently from 5 to 9110.0110 quarters had been thrown on the harvest of that year when Dot a single bushel was wanted. The pressure of this had been felt—heavily felt ever since. He strongly enforced the importaneg of a plan like that which be bed eeffgesled, which would give the public tin benefit of an adequate supply, yet protect the land ed interest from that ruinous inundation which bad heretofore been experienced. He called upon the Noble Marquess to state whether his calculation bad not been made on the price of the best grain, which could only beregarded as one-fourth of the supply, instead of pier lag it as be mightto place it on that with tlpi other three-fourths of inferior corn. , If the Noble Lord said his (Br. Ciarwen'a) plea could arsosemed, ha thee call ed won hiss to correct the error which hs bad poloted out, sad give the landed Interest that protection to wbiti, on the showing of the Noble Marquess himself, they were clearly entitled. He spoke earnestly on this reti*l. feeling as he did that it levolred the comfort sod well-being of half a million of persons who were giant those who had most contributed to make this eoantry the admiration of the world. Withoat due pro iection these must become peepers and the laud must go out of cultivation. Some of the most productive land too wield go out of cultivation even in that county which bad been so well characterised by old Lady Townsend, who being asked what was the most remark. able thlog she bad seen in Norfolk, replied the wort extra. ordinary sight was two rabbits fighting for'one blade of glass.—(A laugh).—He hoped the Noble Lord would extend lilaresolutions if be did 'pothiog else. He thought if foreign corn were admitted without restrictien, a duty of 10s. might to be attached to it Nutria: to 90s. From Mao 100 s. a duty of Ss. should attach, bnt the price meld never rise se high. All be wished for was that ptieselleu genii be lorded to the fanastrosi security le Viellable. • . • 1.41 ' . Mr. 81.111.1t41 4 wee disposed to prefli: the plan of the ;Coble liarepleee; which had been proposed in the Committee, and afterwards withdrawn. If a motion were made to raise the protecting duty !acorn imported for bows consumption from IA to AS shillings, it should haws his vote. An Hom thentleman oppositswas willing to protect the landed interest to the amount of the taxi 'doe they-sesta/sad. But as to 'Aid oseitidelbey were likely to differ. It had beer saittheissequanseseAte tee pier cent. This caleidatioe he dllfsMlhl Re was led to this conclusion by an mat put iota his baud, which at fee* Mnotat Of the poor rates in men.ials la Somerset * #kerr af ' Ireton periods witka par the lest *o4lnAl* ample' wows , - , ; 4 4 i 1.-11.24 ottai f i 755 • f 'r 15 ,* • . ..rn inquiry Ai . Member for CNisaberland - - tnii - eisiila , agia to be the 'motet of the protecting duty, p dig firoi ids (Lord Londonderry's) statement Ile li ll th ° :,.im M Po Cilli rts ber of 181 1j ,- Ike. Ike. there was reason to expect that dim" must be a glut of corn en the Continent. and Hint it the ports ware vaned, the imports would greatly. upped our warms. .should importation Weems aeoessory. As to the Hon. II maber's leading argument; that respenneg the amount of duty . he wished to *tart frown thelmoo-already eyed, and to have a new law. Hs. (Mr. Corwin) now went onife out of the sphere' of his former ir t ; Ite t went at once into the field of treatron ; a ' *thing would „t ram content hint but another law. proceefl leir oa the basis of flie *silting law, with new. modificatioas. That Hoe. ebsesber had proposed to open at etta. with a duty of ler.; his opiniop. indeed, appeseedt to• have "grown . considerably in the progress of these dionsmioas. Corn . nw in all unnalneat state. tlif - T Wallops to be *lw o Ma e with respect tali-m.ost to c air, not whit it now was, but what it, was likely ylo e, judging from . the example of former years. llse,fHoa:. Member for Cumberland (Mr. thirteen) sappers el that foreign 'corn could, imlependentlyof the duty, Ism idipurted at 40s. taking the average price at Mamie at Ms. • But he had not considered thattberewonl4 bee charge of ss. wyear for every year. had corn enualned as warehouses. lbw. ever, taking the import price at 46e. the duty of 17s. added, would make the amount 575.; bet the Hon. lien demon. while hi laid hold of the lowest price at which . cora was sold on the Continent, ought Dot to take it for granted that it would be imported from Danteic at that price :from all eternity. According ,to the proposition which kg (the Marquis of Londonderry) bed origi stated. the ports were• to be left open only for three mouths in the year; and the question was,, whether in those three months such a quantity of core could he imported front the Contiment (even taking the price at forty shillings, with the duty of . seventeen alai. lings) as would materially injure oar owe agriculturists. +He certainly thought not. The great defect of the pre , wurlaw was, that it did nut Word a sufficient controel over die circumstances of the market. Was it possible be would ask, under his proposition, that people would speculate in corn to an extent that would be injurious to our land-bolder, when there was to be an outlay io the first instance of 275.? Is surprised him very much to hear front the lion. Member for Cumberland that he svas not satisfied with an import price of 705., cousidering that on a former occasion he thought 655. would he sufficient for the protection of our agriculturists. The farmers were very muck misled in attaching themselves rather to the import price that. to the question of the scale of duty. The Noble Marquess, in conclusion, ex. pressed his hope that the speech of the Honourable Member for timberland would produce no undue int. permitse on the House, and that the Honourable Meiober would himself see the f.slliey of his argument. —(Hear, bear )- Mr. D. BROWNE said that the landed interest was now laid prostrate at the feet of those whom it bed supported dewing the war. He entirely agreed with the Hon. Member for traMberland, that MM. was the lowest price at which foreign corn should be. imported. He would not hesitate to avow himself in favour of prohi biting foreign corn altogether, for lie was convinced if our own farmers could end a market, they could produce a supply that would be amply sufficient for the United liingi;ouz. 1711 i/ 41. 1 . 1 4 . 11.1 . 4 i rr e P " : 7 " 7 :l ls4l / 171 . 11 g -771 8-714 4 ra T a— lt POP€ I.--' 77 bolt 'Anse , leee - es fellows: — .•••14,.. . . „ , ::• ci 4 3 " t . ' • 'ilte 'elbow rice, 101fise . froia the 7477110 J HogA n ggd. ne,,bad :. • le - 1 1 2 $ ) -•-• it: 4 '.. ~, ,,,a "alk . ." cb might, ereatheisic tjfilkesireirieips Art aim pkg. - tali India., At . 1755 ~ . ~, 4 e llk II .... rite* 41,1 , 10,4104_ .IWs. Billysal i rlt, gisiw t jasseis that . 1783 ••• . ' AS Se .. et xport- .tib l euppoet "pa l e e b le h in .ni nnnicknpn . hi bdri n .4 And in DIM their moos, was VW.* I bat said. ungWat i titialinornent; o li o MOO . INA. er p g dy e :,i e jd Ibis he sheered revolt the tiled • fie rriealtiYal at once be faralsbed..A 'supply' ist foreigi ens ruilitieSe rereihl7 Pellet" the ettleieertatteklhult 4hbevif tend d am m o ,k m o w w „h i „ iiia h,,,, 0 lip mammy c„,da idic h Mere 110 t tee, and itbougist Mtatitikiti nr ho tut to am*, aagatwo(dielogn lanyii.,,nottclia:44:4ll i &e - 4 1 . ii e! , made wit h advent; kid the . ' - '44l,lHai ilia. riot 'a i ii iipt i rmt4sttoaksta A b gaik h i Amm o ,firs wrhAi i, i mi . ca k r i winding ..pf ' .94Nattifpa. I Ideal . ' He conikiered tins ti . tei (pm: "kbe-sse4olo ft - •- • - ---- - - e l * L e ' '' L . i . • ; 1 3441191111101 SW 11•Ii•iir) 44114 r i lleimair - ViP: 4 9Pirrc iPPli ed r te! of iii." , 4,4 .100Akihs.fisreuor turt de r . ray ,frcetwbittiti . es s .• . : 'rid • .., Vtle-: 0 . ..1 .. • • sili . r Awe duty could 'meet the tills. •Ie wool liarrrUted for tbe isirrAtißANDOßNHapeirgiSitfibild • tear Aiwa: tell resolutions of tips 11444age bye Uwise* for 'Hutiersiti ilk . 6,- , ,04 very her-rife, 8 1' 1 24 iti • "tell- •He Chas oils pitkee,Jaus * d i be feisip k ie if w oo, , / ler to ps e s war i t s reratoad to be Amour 'td Hit , factual duty jadeite* itaztaniptatustik.A.fortillotih he; fek 4 . 1 pir 4 ' ... DERia:Oiaer . ' radii*. tips sq,*s *mist ,Isteitlme pertly. erg.* e - SSW - The marquess of LONDON . yid that e tontrbele,..lbit it.rottfil be. implesUtle to yudrusoe.,ths.pnblielisalt the stain inquiry was. according to the speech of the ossible fdr , any iiiiteese "Fidel ought Bpi*, did oot n ekig.frotititsb lion. Member for tMemberland (Mr. enrwen,) wind ry. But 11, laps— Us . wished ,to Scsara for the laiiiiefi gatereet a otibt tti be tbe atnetutt of the protecting lie . A el.'. 11.• mai hia V1....d Londonderry's) staremest. would, 1~" c; f -t. t j ) A Mr. ILOBERThO3 balk in Isiaideal mete of the,. r, Eras of agriculture in liesahnd mid !hate deri.. g . t : - seven years' war. and slam that parka lie Omer:: that since the seven years' war, Yeallee was as eireort'n; country of corn, while Wore thee.* wae an impo - rtlug .a0.P. 1 141.1.. gale!!_dadttlek,,M4.l god was amispon lig imantry, but onseoWtrmwieWbocatee I" f r - I t . lag osmatry,, is casseleemee et Woo— con‘;r le . l :; salatioaell WM& pu.aa . i Ai 4 terld ;.. l sepu..e to our seenufactores. the. Mop t os tit i ; u t u effu te .cie b : i o s o t sf o se ri tah ca ew l toA detai ichre t a ti cer p . o colu n w t a i t i et le t pos hcer b a sea t. die andsg scoudisi . u in e l see : toi le adt ? : 'elates tortes; and It was • taistahe to *appo se l a d 'the country could recover herself is a few years. Mr. LOCKHART said there was eat part of the !I .`• hhillei:eynele.listiatle""womasted'irshial.r7imiletalinititlinipeber.avi.ll4ll4leabirogfilufkdasilivoshhilripiifilWaliidittialig.4;:i ' ' cultarists. • The Marquess ef LONDONDERRY 'explairted. ye had made use of that =premise with reference to L./ contestation of the gaieties law. Mr. LOCKHART said that was procisely4eiam, is which be understood the Noble Lard. lint he ceases,. ed that the Noble Lord *Pala to have some grasser eft sideratien to the distress tiorsteisiel. Ho denied that the Nelda Leta had auto Ms,talcaletigo i hisiy, oh m he calculated upon the sirup print Ktriri, ti,,,„ sore that the Agricultural loteerateaset he relieved, Sr the public credit would sot remain smut, fle de nied that the laud of the misery woo usofigtged, sty 1 farther than the *petioles of the bad tea or th e window tax aped it. If any parties were to claim the lands under any author i ty • drag as Act of P ar li s . mint, be should be di to reply to them is tie language of an ascient people. " Come and taken.... and be shoald feel - himself called rpm to repel them as be would repel the Mums of die mat hostile enemy that ever invaded a "aim, He hoped, however, that be lioveromeat wadi anent Matters from main to this droodial extremity. The only method hi Ids opinion was a rodoctioa of rendez. He'did not seas such a redottiou as would iejore the public credit. Meweeld advise the Noble Lord to glee such preterite"' to" the farmer as they believed weak protect thent s ,ety they might be drives 10 act his as who saw raimbelors their eyes. , ~. Sir L. afj.,lhalidi e l was sot dupeouto give protean" to agrimatem horsed what was jut to the. Oar Userests of thmeematry. Bet be hodtalwopt soilhamia proportion a r sEiEltare flourished, the other iamb were ultra p s. He Hasiglailimiloa, that is support &gel He be to eityptea 'So mmieg and he 'Mould rote for the moieties of ike Lord. Sir H. VlVlll'dedlarsi Isinsiele not to its :olgtf those who coosidgied hit dos as cease of thesis" ing distress. Hiltelfeiad that if%ere had sot Mee a tax optiti' the ' Hittite' botk, tka'llettlegi wield have WiketitednistheMtheebilkkeedites 41 the 'limit ' If xidlelomdrothomitaa" ot disarm:he wasteite ant Mat Matt ewpalposall at all ululated se relieve ig'so• = o otoaseutiseseetrayagma peopedtion a the di. itereher foe York, *Meg west to oesemitadt a. Mottles spot vibe loadisoldrit. Werke& oot *lse understood os.beiag si%dnst , the farther, hat he car& dered the maintfiefitrin ittarents ei lamb emitted Is protocti , ms ea the avian brat He should vote for tie resolution Oldie Noble, Lord. sad be hoped the Lease would Mono to elegiaban that might aferd relief sad i mllap Oro fewer Webb d i bble* the poetry. -bk..): SMALLEY mid he allinght thrt proposidea of thy;Nehle Lord mach better Mu this exhales Nate of tisiCimi Laws: 1 .i'r 7 ........ , ..7 . el- s • 4 = • i Mr. C.E=Mitf the Moue "MN strut Tet.,_ ra uatty ko_ a n:lig i lilibild give to it." 1 17" • ' • • Jr. Walt WORE Selina . aupanlittidaste to le i iases..cattie ef diama, but did . ma,esseaaAmialdsy,lllo. thatalinadmme tens at all lawman evil. Beirt~ that a high prim asoemorily tutted "taw •W= the cost of pendontioa; and that mast was sew is it had been airing, she war, al hough Oho Pokilefihe produce itself lied fallen. These high 'cis war Ifid striated tfdlihrmier, ind him to • sa • improvident s haigase *itb his lekilord, mite asi ill his other colOmLitinefe of ex ten to carriers:l elk that high mine.,; He therefore, 'Wet 44..itiPiss that a°l raising of the; paini.lii artiheial mesa" was highly issit.• rions to the farmer; and ii its , amlosa so to the landietdo When the tall took the Maurer was oulieteritted W it t as the prinead•labear Win tf. ducat to tettliOnd with that of proolsions. Per those masa', be tie; vied altogether to the propositims if Noble Mareineit't Indeed he was persuaded that t proposed duty. could not be carried tato effect. plan of his Honiaurahle Friend (Mr. Ricardo) was at Leaded by the *Pedigo:sky; but u the JUL.:ally was, less 14 ddltylleOsoolosahl favour the proposition of his Hasa: .Friend. r.. . .. , M r . IVESTERN mid that of all those who bad dcli• erred their oOlihts, sot one seemed to see clearly and, ' distinctly the erliaquences of his vote. He would to their owl promaiu„ and from them would draw a di eat conciusion. it was stated that the redundant's; • 1 retinae in-emery part of Earope, as well as in this c : fteas the mesa of low prices. If every toner" is i'Mitopefeerused with a seperabundanee,that was a strand reuse why they could not penitently legislate at peer% Whilowenteleed that the Noble Leta sad the Hoe. Mom heeler Portarling!ou did not do justice to their us absedan sca rks le gi o f f ieb tl e t:t a b i eye produce,lg n e it e i st alliu theylto Eu r opel° contended, n i fi d a z i n s g t s a l t efP they r a I F e y wises t ili e sheltritish torrent, price of /WO in :other coteries. the were liable to great errors. Most of the evils , sblele they complained were to be heed in the cheery Oahe currency. He would adopt the arieice of the ilea. Member for t;orfe Castle, not to legislate at all kr to present, but wenld, according to his proposition, ft Peet the importation *fairy more foreign grain till sus • Session, when they could come with their minds kit , prepared. Conotrringilis he did in that mind, he alma. negative all the propositions Submitted to them. . Mr. Alderman IiEniATE rose amidst lea cries i " Question !" lie would submit. if the Noble Lords:. the Hon. Oristlemsen who were bringing forward thr measures, if they were not likely to place the Agricc turi•lts in a worse condition than they were in at preset.' Hr thought the Yeomanry of the country the mast cat ral, the t itseful. and substantial part of the conic , nity, and their iuterests should not be ceelected. would vote fur the duties only on condition of Mishit power vested le the Privy Council to dispense with it case of scarcity. Sir W. CUNNINGHAM supported the motion of tl Noble 3 14rElonas; but from tie noise which proceed from different parts of the boom, it was scarcely pt. Isle to hear what he said. • Mr. RICARDO said he row merely to correct statement male by an Hon. Member, who said that cot had partaken of all the varieties of the parr cartes.. He assured the lion. 3lesulott that no such thing had r ken place. The Gallery was cleared for a .licinion. During our excineion several divisions took place I the Committer. The first was, we enderstio.l, 0 1 , Lord .4 It horp's Arsiosidinent ; the minter. were-11a; For the Attientleient, 2-I;—Agninst it, 2 4 .0 i-- eity, 6. ' Ti 19 le second division wet upon Me. R;t:ardo's Amu tient. The MIIIIIWI'S.IVete— . For the A •.?5 M ntendmrot, ,—.lgalost it, i'ls; rity, 193. ' s . :- d i i~ I t 4- tl .. •