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T 4 TUE 149 N 111 E COMMONS. he. mow • PRis^toza I! PIEWGIITI. '''..%.._ It was moved." That the dine be enlarged to this day fort, ; tit f whi-h motion St JOHN NEWPORT opposed. upon the t: At due diligence her, not been used to tree : non , . noon the Sitting Member. AI, JONES gave notice. that it was his mitten tir ,arty in the nest Ses•ien of Parliament. in forwards Bin compel Parochial Officers so deliver their rate books, upin oath, previous to Elittl , uns of Mimhers of Parliament. MR. JONATHAN SICUNDRETT. The following is the Petition whiclt this gentle man prese n ted to the House. TM? •YMb , •• PITITIOP. of JOMAIHAN Ph. went, That room Petotooier is mnsirile of haring Maly incurred the dissoh mere or this Hon. 'lowers by cernang to tooter a question p °posed to him when attending at their laa• tor rean0 , •.14.11. t your Petitioner beg. leave to mute this Hon House, that hos re(ere) se answer sin h q..estiniq and to ,rake the Arse en,. or r•qtsited of him, rid not arse from airy motive of drr ierneri t.i this flono Howe, or dew-geld of its jurodiction or ▪ oh...irv , hut from a general sense of ptufesstonal fidelity to 'loo r Peirponer bi es leave twitter to a:sure this Hon. Howse, t.oit he was, in nor wise ' doe its or intlioally, instritmental in ii. herii.g rtio easeurionef the Writ for the Elefloon it Poole, to• rie.lirtird It to th • person by whoa be oo' rooPin'erf to • sore few .•, are alter he ,rceived it frern the Messenger to rho. Geist Fre..l . ard that tour Petitioner to..tb not been in a t ••anner influenced by PettiiittY for any . 1 f the Candidates it the ...colon : root Petitioner N-ing a nasal stranger w 411 or them, and beinew',lts woomerested on the said elec•oon, et n. ihe sneer-s or whist of the Cendiel res 1 rut your Perithmer o 1111210111 is 11...111 thin Hon Heine, that he dotn not persevere In weaning t tusks the Urns'..- Lure r,cpsired of him ; ant, sin tee coott'..y , Mat he is re.oly and worm, to submit hionself to such erainutatielt al this I lor /womb,. Howe in its modern mey tir!nil4t Thar yew Potltion.r humbly trusts. that liis Gaily voids thus to Eicreiot hinisolf hi the pleasure of this lion. I lou-e, will he • ma proof of the high vesseiation he entertains ton it. dogmas. Tett it,. commitment , of wear Petitioner to Mien is at- ' tended with consequences Nighty detrimental and injurious to bout in professional 'ottani...a .vid•trapiloyment. yoer Petriseiner, lien for:, roost humble ho: es, that this Hon. H. to., Wrong into its favourable consideration the 14 , ...,11 assurances which your Pottitiontr lath, is ~00 rtfered is their wine, wdl •.erniit horn to ap pear it 1 . 11 , 1 f Nor to rimer, the question propounded, and ms or eo• quo shoo this 1.011. House mar think prnyro, and to gm ot such Ohm relief as tan Hee. Home sh oil us it. mercy shoat promo. find your Petitioner. tic. Mr. WM. SMITH mewed the order of the day far brioriog Mr .1 'nathan Broodrett to the Bar, in order to Its being discharged Mr. Btondteu was accordingly hrnught - to - the Bar, and the bPEAKt.It addresses! him as ful- Irian inathan Brund-ett. an unwarrantable delay havtrig appeared t" have taken place in the execu fon ot the writ tor Pie last eleffinn for the toWn and bernugh of Poni-, aid it appearing also that the writ w.s Aelivered from the Great Seal into your h.t ntl were interrogated at the Bar of this House tou"hrng roor condo in that transaaior,, and von thooght fit to refuse answering the ques tion put to you ; for this contumacy, you were committed to ii•s Majesty's ga-1 of Newgate, in cede: that you might feel, and that all men sim•':d know, that no one can be suffered, w •st im• unity, to violate the privileges of this House, an • to set its authority at defiance, and yuut imprisonment having now. brought you to a proper sense of your error, and having offered to pay a proper obedii nee to its c•immatids, this House has therefore thought fit to consent to your concessions. and to discharge you out of custcdy, and you are sow discharged accnrditigly." On the motion of the CHANCELLOR cf the EX IEQUER, the sortie.. which the ' 4 reaker re. • ordered to be entered upon the Journals oft ••., ...e. On the • '. •'t Mr. JEFFERY. it was ot &red. trait Mr. Brondrett a Cl M ispur • r au .eland this nous tm Th• s wig ma.. at t.ue time of tbefturr:er procittdieg of the ihqutry reaper%irg the Poole Writ. Mr. CI'ffe.ESE4AN gave notice, that he wuuld to•raortow Move fur certaift Pest Offie- Accou..ts. P s WIC:MAL SETILLIALN CS. C .1. STA \Leta' moved for le .ve to bring in a Bill to stoma sa much ot the 13th and 14th of Charles 11. and the Ist of George I as related to pa rochial author. nes ut the poor. and for the better re4ulating of ti.e settlements of bastard children. s.lr. hl lAW LEIS EVBIs objected to this motion. ea the ground that it net an improper peeled of the to bring forward such a measure, when se litany Member., win. understood thew matters, con vitt d with the POW 'S Laws. were absent. The sor a dur• queation went to create a greater 414- eul , y in obtaining of settlements than already ex isted, a d.rit.,llty which °ugh• not, on al? account, to be agreed in ; at all events, wnAtever the Hon. • (C , tl. 'Stanley) had to propose. be Utosight s he had tante, postpone it to next Session. Mr. sl%th ON said, he heartily cottoned in the eppoutioit whiab a a, 'hewn to the bringing forward tine maser ar sncl• a period of the Session. Mr. %V HI PBS EAD opposed the motion; be tressed it would or meet with a sizigle tren d. as it would only tend to add to the numerous t ersevaoces which already esistcd in regard so the law of sae. ticments. modem was then put from the Chair. and red without a POLYGAR WAR. ;NOWA& IURt ON rose. in consequence fronssurly given, to move for cer•- 7Urfle#l relative to the above subjea ; is to, he said, he did stet wish to provoke din. It would b. in the tecollettion of the toad the subjeS of the l'olygar war had innerly brought forward as an auxiliary to Carnatie Questron. His intention was first to • reparation to the injured parties; and, ry. to vindicate the injisted charaCter of /gutsy. which had been vit.lated Sy an in. :meat or the AR of the year I corn palled M.., .;.'+ Cornwallis's A 6. He that he shooid sliver make any mo ths House that did not soar 'above objetls. lie had always attained from :ing any thing iojariens so parries, as it was .opessihle to calculate the amount or degree of blame that aas inyutable to any one, till such .time as the paper. and necessary documents were laid upon the rattle. It would be part of his sib i,a va ascertain whether he could alit obtain some ' ) alteration of that dreadful system, which bad not only been destrudive to the interests of the India Company, but to this nation itself. Every one knew an I deplored the dreadful calamity that had lately happered in India, and the miserable situa te'll of the Company's affairs fur some time, in consequence the massacre at Vellore ; and thefe fore he should take an early rpportnnity in the next Session of Parliament, to Ming forward the question of the Carnatic. As to the Oude C barge, he trusted that would be brought forward by a Noble Lord, whom he then saw in his place. It was his iutent•ou, he could assure the House, to take the earliest op portuniry of bringing fnrvard for discussion the subjed of the Poi ygar war The Hon. Baronet, after a tew turtoet o 'sere:scions, concluded with Moving tot the produdi 'n of copies of instrodlons given in 1799. to Majcr John Bannerman, and to the Govtr tors of Fort-\t;iil; on and Fort St. George, relative to the Southern Polygars, together with copies of several letters from the said persens, and procla mations and other documents relative to this sub jea. Mr. K. DUNDAS said, that the sub's& upon which this m aion was made. was one of considera ble importance. and as far as regarded the papers, he should only observe. that they were numerous and voluminous ; and besides which, their produaion would create a necessity of prtn!ucing aft other do cuments that could tend to throw a lieu upon . Y►e Hon. Baronet had alluded •te thir treaty of 1792. concluded by Marquis Comwailis now, in acceding to this motion. he (Mr. D.) sv;,hed it to be understood, that no blame could ►e Prue led either to tier C •cite of Ditedors or to the Gnvernors aisr , !iii, for any diredions theyhad given twos" the subje9 of the Polygars. That was a point which he should . be ready to discuss with the Hon. Bait. .1t a future period. Another matter to which the Hon. Bert. had entitled was, the nand►hips or cruelties which had taken place in India ; he should upon o,i , too 11, prepared to contend, that the to.- t iers issued from this country were pettedly proper, in order is disarm those countries, and to reduc, them to a state compati'ule with civil society and subnro- nation. As to the late proceedings at Vellore, as well as the question of the Polygars, he belie, J the Hon. Bart. would find himself comideo ly mistaken. With these reset rations. he would net minx ale m o tion now made for the produelion of the documents. Mr. H ADDINGTON s4id, that understand ! !gm ois was not oppo,sd by the Right Hnuoutable Gentleman (Mr. Doodas), he should not take the sense of the House ; but he could no.. but tvien to Pa t ers being gra-ted, with a view to .crimonation. thete was no presumption of criminality attachable to any individual. He sin eerily regretted the praFtice, and he thought it ought to 6• prevnnred in lattice. L rd FULKILS iON t: rose. he oil. merely to ob.erve, that it was his in!‘ ntinn to brirg forwar d the subjeet of the f /urle Cha-ge next Sea .n. Atter several observations from Mr. Grant, Mr Whitshed Keene, Sir Arthur Wellesley, ar.d exnla natior.s from Sir Thomas f urton. the motion was agreed tn. The Semler? at War brought up the Shorntlal Military Canal ar.d Road Bit!, which was read a first and ordered to be rim.: b+COad time on this day se'nnighr, and to be 1--tnt..4. PAROCHIAL sr tiOOLS RILL. Oa no motion of N , :r. WHITBREAD. the Hous• 'oat into a Committee upon the ab ere Bill. ...r. sruaGLs BOURN t rose, nd ohjetied to the claose re wive to compulsion. as being Bahl, to various irceviveniances in eadinr uoon parishes to incur an ex. cox irs concern. It of an imaginary or octant advantage. Th. same 1o:it and csmpls c del macho:cry was api.' ed tr: every parish in the kingdom, however differesuly they m gin be tie cunioanced. in may cases, it would ire absolutely impratliea.sle. Another less important ohjedlion we.. :hat the perwns to whons this was ranted, w old look to this as a right, instead of being a fit your. ['his was the •iew ne ro-k of the suhj-El. But besides he was not anxious that any Bill of this nature should be carried through the House during this session. He then concluded with moving. as as ainendm nt, that instead of she comoultory clause of w leo he complained, words to the f ang purport should be in serted, " that it 55.411 be lawful for the Church war-tens an,l overseers "f 'saris •-s, or townships, won consent of toe paoshsoners. alter one month's n nice, io ass mbk, to est bliah cc siol or schools for the lost:us:boa of the poor. and to purchase ground, and erea schools, and to cleft any person they may mink proper, to insteud the poor." Mr. W. SMITH said, he was not at all sure that the House csoild pass this measure in the form of a law this Session, but it might perhaps be ex pedient at least to make it take the shape and form of a law, as they were all agreed as to the necessity of initiating the One. It was giving 'insect to the Churchwardens to do, under the tendons of Puha useut,whet they already were in the habit of doing ; acid as be approved so much of the principle of the Bin. be should support it in its present irate. Me. HAWKINS BROWNE thought it was certainly the duty of Parliament to provide regula tions to iestrun the poor ; but to get them to receive it. was a very different thing. In many parishes, the office of School-master would become a perfett sinecure. It would be extremely difficult to find any number of parishes to which the same law would properly apply. Some contained 100,000 inhabitants, while others contained only 30. Same were flourishing in their ma nulaitures and trade, and others decaying. Some were supported by Agriculture alone. Some had no endowments, while others hid charitable institutions and free-schools. While he disapproved of the measure, he at the same time gave the Honourable Gentleman who had loon:lilt it forward. great credit for his patriotism and zeal for the public good, but he really thought Parliament had not come to a sudisi..it investigation of the sub . )" to enable them to come to a law, even although this had been an earlier period of the Session. Mr. WILSERFORCE considered it more im• portant to the cotustry, on a measure of this sort. to decide Well, than soon. It was better not, even in appearance, us, truce a measure upon du in. at least till it was br .ught to as great maturity u possible . He touted, therefore, that the Hon. G. istionan would not posist m premiss forward this measure at present. The Magistrates in general wee?. I not well affilted towards it. particularly to (oat part which went to legalize part of the poor's rates to this °Neil; and should the measure be left discre tionary to the maj .city in parishes, and after all not be adopted, an trgument from this iettaivity woo'd be made use of against taking up the measure at a future period. At the same tone, he declared helm' the highest opinion at the effeas of education and giving instrulion to the poor. He had been struck with observing the superiority in po:nt of information, which the lower orders in the Ntothe:n parts of England possessed over those in the South and West, which could only be at tributtsel to this cause. Upon giving iostrueion to the poor in Ireland, the existence of this country depended. He hoped it would also be found e•rac ticable to impart general instruatan to the peetti:e of this country; but he thought it was not adv .- abte to pies. forward the adoption of this measure ; o the present Session, for it had not as yet been sufficiently inquired into what were the present means of education in general in parishes. He thought some method should be adopted of combining all the existing institutions, so as that this meast.re mita be only established in parishes where it was found necessary. In order that the Hon. Gentle inan's plan might be made as perfeft as p ‘s•ible, lie was desirous it might be submitted to the consider ation ot the country Gentlernt n ; and that, as the result of the whole, Parliament might be prepared to establish some useful and nee. scary system in the eourse4if the ensuing Session. Mr WHITBREAD ciasfested he did not expea to hear frem one so distinguished for his seal to the cause of humanity, morals, and religion, as the Honourable Gentleman was, who had just spoken, any hesitation as to the adption of a measure which he acknowledged to be salutary. Did he a upon this principle in his repeated efforts lot the eh- li lion if the Slave Trade ? With all the zeal which the Honourable Gentleman had displayed for the diffusion of religious knowledge in Africa, he would ask now he could expea to diffuse the truths of the Gospel to the poor of this mainly, with out putting into thcir hands the keys of know. ledge ? or, at least, giving them a legal right r.. claim these keys to be put into their handi ? Wheat he declared that the salvation of this country d. pendsd upon giving instruainn to the peonle of Ireland. ant that he cep 'Red the same boon to be imparted to the people of this country, how could he consistently delay giving eta• blessing which would reach not only to the pre. sent generation, but to those yet unborn ? The 1t0... Gentleman (Mr. S. Bourne) who had offered his Amendment, proposing delay. had rot told th-m r at be was iiiendly to a system of general e..uca .ion, and in this delay he would be joined by all th-se who hoped to g t rid of this measure aito ge her. Ihe .till d d not propose to compel people to be edits ur only to give a power to Magis- trates to etre sch ols and appoint schoolmasters ; aaJ then •he re..t would follow. In Scotland the ereeion of schools was compulsatory ; and there it was consider-d almost as much disgrace for persons not to be able to read and write, as here if a person had committed a crime. There were clauses its the .Bill enabling Justices to suspend the execn tir: of it in parishes, where it was not found to be necessary. Should the Bill pass, charitable contribu tions would not cease, for the only intention was, to raise the poor's rate for the education of thassi chil dren who were not otherwise instrueled, and not to take away instrueion from r ose who already en joy it. Mr. W. obi •ad concluded with complain t ig of gentlemen's making objeeions to his Bill, who evidently had not read and e a omined it : he saw no good ground fur delay, which, he was of opi nion, would tend to rendet his Bill totally abortive. Mr. S. BOURNE said. he was friendly to the principle of the Hill M-. WILBERFORCE. in explanation. said, he :ht.ught as this was a measure which afieBed the country at large, it ought to have the Smelt of the sentiments of the Country Magistrates. Sir JOHN NEW VORT approved of the Bill as a general measure, although he considered it totally inapplicable to ; for if education was to be incorporated with a system of pro selytism, it must tail of its rife& ; and for this opinion he tooted the words of Mr. Howard He concluded with complaining of the abuse of the Funds of the Protestant Charter Schools of trelan I. Mr. ROSE urged the postponement of this mea sure ; there appeared a general disinclination to it throughout the country, a in proof of this he read a letter from a Gentleman, stati-t that at a Quarter Session., where above thirty Magistrates were assembled, this measure had met with a gene ral disapprobation. He trusted, however, that the Honourable Gentleman's well-meant endeavours would give the greater facility to some pralticable mode being adopted. Hr hoped that a plan would be effeeted, which should admit of mixing habits of industry, with education ; for in many places there was a disinclination in the lower orders to send their children to school merely for education. If the Bill were now to be adopted, it would incur a great expense in the ere&inn of schools, &c. with out producing much practical benefit. He approv ed ct the Amendment, as best calculated to recon cile the country to the measure ; it would thus be rendered more palatable, and a better chance af forded for its ultimate success. Mr. SIMEON thought the question came to this, whether it were better to ado's: a voluntary or a compulsory mode of education. He found a general ohjeihion against enforcing this measure by compulsion. Poor parent► were not averse to have their children educated ; but from the ages of seven to fourteen, in country places, they could send their children into the fields, and gain something fur the better support of their families ; sod if deprived of this advantage, they would come sooner upon the parishes for selief. He thought no one could objea to the education of the poor, provided itlwas coupled with religious instrulim. He ohjeded also to this measure, on account of its expense. Mr. LUSHING rON abjeded to the amend mete, as teildtoz to tender the measure itself per fedly nugatory Lord MILTost spoke in fa, 'tar of the Bill, and against the amendment. lis the Nun s and in manufaiduring cooaties, where young penults could earn even half-a guinea a week, yet they wen still better educated than in the Southern and Western parts of Fagl4nd ; and though a comoulsory clause was not free from whjeftion, yet, upon the whole, he thought it so far advisable, that he should vote in favour of it. Mr. S I MEO N explained. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUI:!t spoke in favour of the amendment, as bettig, his opinion. more ultimately beneficial to the sure itself. He ohjeaed to the compulsory eia ice be apprehended it would tend to pre►ert an equ.lit.i extensive education as what was at present. It wAs besides impossible to Enid a law which would make an parishes resemble each other, any more than to mike England resemble Scotland, as to a syster.: of education. He approved of the measure of deny, as the Assistance or the legislature would prov e more eflic,acious, after prejudicies were broken down, rather tit.n to attempt now to force a measure urea the country, in the fa. e of the prejudices of the Ma gist rates, and many parishes against it. The eds. cation he approved of, was a religious education.-- Without religion and morals. mere educatiaa, or teaching men to read and write, might make them more cunning, but without the salutary advantage of moral and religious principles, would aux render them better men, better subjeas oncitixers. Sir JOHN NEWPOR rereated his objec tions a•;rittst swrodocing a national system of edit. cation into Ireland, wnich should be coneected with the tents of any religious seas or parties The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEjt again defended a religious system of education. and chewed how far that could be imparted without entering into file minutes of religious d &truces amongst Christian.. Mr: HAWKINS BROWNS di►liked* system of education. incoroorsted with 4 ‘y .te , n of prose lytism. for Lelia,' ; at the bAn.e time. he vrasJe cidedly in favour of the principle. or the Protestant Religi in, a id trusted its superior advantages *odd post be lost sight of. Mr WHITBREAD said, that he hoped in tLe gener.il system of education that might be propo.ed for Ircland, the school-masters to be appointed should be of the s.arne religious persu.t.ion with the parents of the chi:drtn. 'l'!.e CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER insisted nn the necessity of a religious ramie% Rvltit.ous knowledge was more diffused by oral cm inunicAsi..r.s and preaching. than merely by a capa city of rending whit was written. Mr W 11l IBREAD insisted. that the Legida. lure. inn geaeral 4y,tem of education for freltai. shoal' give the Cattoplics t. ?re equal opponunides instt tiering their children. as etc Protestaats enjoyed. Mr W. SAL rit preferred a legal canpalsiou on p.7ishes to provide th , means of education, ra ther than for a small majo,ity to oblige a lugs minor.ty. ton i - TURGES BOUltti E and Lord !IILTON explained. The question was then loudly called for, the Houie then dieideJ, when there appPared...• La Mr. iliturgel &Hanle, aseu4knma . 35 Aping it . It !(.orgy . 23 - - After some further conversation between Mr. P. Carew, Air. Whitbread, Mr. Stur,7,zr Bisurne. Mr. C" .Arles Dundas, Mr. Davies Giddy, slid Mr.. Vi in. Smith, the other resolutions were agreed tee. the Report received. aid ordered to be taken tote further consideration on Monday newt. Upon motion of Mr. FOSTER, the Committee upon the Calico And Cotton Yarn ACts was post poned fluid to-morrow. The Irish Sugar Bill, the Irish Spirit Itxtifiers' Bill, and the Irish Gold and Silver Plate Bill, were severally read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. The Irish Customs Amendment Bill, the Irish Infirmary Bill, the Frogmcre Land's Bill, and the Halt-puy ()dicers' Widows' Pension and Conspus. sionate List 1311, were severally reported, and or dered to be read a third time to-morrow. Mr. HOBHOUSE brought up a Bill to autho- rise the Commissioners of the f reasury to issue Ex. chequer Bills for the current year ; also the An nual indemnity Bill ; which were severally read a first time, and ordered to bu read a second tune to morrow. I he Sierra Leone Bill wai reported, and ordered to be r 4.1 a third MTN to.rivorrow. _ The Militia Pay Bill. the Militia Adjutants' Bilk he Militia Subalterns' Allowance 11:11, and the Irish Militia Pay Bill, severally w.-nt through Com. mittees, and were ordered to be reputed to-morrow. The other Orders of the Day were disposed O. and at tiall.past Ten o'clock the House adjoutned. The negative Sir TI of A nos' caul doci doing in caution. Nouse, been for Cie Ciro pic.eure secondly, the coot frinxi.me enonly I trostod, tits& 1111 perserkil st.!ing .t o .itnpessibl FOREIGN IN Tit LLIGINCE. GOTTENBVRGII MAIL. srocxmoLm,itiLv 4. Major Von Gneisnene, Commandant of the tress of Colberg, made, under the 18th of June, t .e following, report to His Majesty the Kin of Syne.. den : " MOST 1111011 TV AND MOST GRACIOUS KIWI; " I herewith have the Sr Ic rue h.rubly to report to Your Majesty, the operations which have lately taken place near this fortress, for the further par ticulars of which I restndfully refer to my Iteport to Lient -Gen. Von Lls.cher. " Uf materials which were but very iedifferen', had in haste raised a smAli field fortification on the ‘Volts berg, situate about 51000 paces from the for. tress, which the enemy had already twice attacked, and twice been r-pul.ed with consrle•Aolt. rie• then began to lay regular siege to it, completed the first and second parallel, and made mews under the proteaion of 10 tedoub s; trAore than 7000 shot had bee's Grad, when. on the 11 sh Jut* the enemy's batteries began to play on eh: above fort fi.:Ation, and made a breach. Your Maje..y i . sr:gate, Chapman. came to Anchor, and find on the ene sty with great eff et. Having filled his ueaches weds troops, he sun.moned the Veroltstsesg, wbc:h was nail destr.syed, east olf•sred a kind of capltulatirm, wt. Sch was accepted. All the artillery wa. removed. and thus the enemy obt.tueti pow -ulna of tiust small f srtiiit.arross. after ten d ty'. siege. " Since that time we have made two vignfOint sorties, in one of iln.:h we ret.*k the Wsslts to a few rn.nu es. which had cost rise en-my a regular siege. Its those two sallies the emirs? It of Iva tti Li • . . al 41F •