The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-05-02 00:00:00

.—At the , Per)" ' bid , the increase of service, Si bull. ~ as Is @dice 'cuticles „I pay u. cieeftiderod in that way, la Frolics . .. . part . .1W gatiosal debt of that country.. It was his with le blii, the attire regclations of the service as they at ' • stood , 91. would not alter any of the claims or of paying them. He would not interfere with the oil for exchanging from half pay to full pay. • se sew modes of selling ont..-.4lnder the • 110160ay and petitions was also iodide* the Z ill seperannuatpd naval and military allowance. and •le head extended the new measure which ire was Owlet to introduce. He proposed that the emulous sad alto sauces new charged on Alie Consolidated Fend,. whickamounted to 4or 500,0001. a yeer should also come under the new regulation ; it was even question able whether this eons ought to be charged at ill el this fond.. The provision for the Royal Family. which was given to these illustrious individuals to support the rank and splendour *Which became their high station, as well as those sums given to the Crown to enable it to exer cise its munideepee, which were charged on the Conso lidated Fund, were such as in their nature, he thought, ought to be excluded from any regulation of the nature ttelsod to_ propose, because if they were brought under it, it would tie up the bounty of the Crown. He also meant to exclude these whose claims worsen the 44 per 1 cents. 'However, the propriety of these exelusiens would be. hereafter open to discussion. By the exclusion of there charges, the sum under consideration would be wheat &MAW. It was a sum vague and fluctuating in its astute, In coasequesse of the death of aural aml military men, and pensions which might yet arise. Bet siese,opol. approximated the real sum. The acidities was founded - upon a table chewing the vit.' riatios to be expected to take place npoii an annuity on lives, (pendia on a retura of the easialities is a indulger of 13,000 lives, Which' number composed about one quarter part of Mir to come under this ar. emirate's', tire Retail leer of whom 'creeds 60,000.. There would be ,pi_ annual decrement in that manlier till it becsemajitsally extinct. It was nit improbable that the age of some might be pre tended to 60 or 70 Years ; however, these were rare insisaces. On the whole it was concluded that at the. end of fortysve years the sum tole paid by the con. tractors would not amount 'nasally to more than 306,6791., did that could not be expected to cootinue long, from• the age of the annuitants. As officers on hell:fay were liable to be pet on duty in the event of war, to be sent to foreign climates, and thus be et posed to loss of life, aid as contingencies might arise for *Whim compensation could be given, be thought it. would. be' a -great hardship on the individuals to hive thccontract swede hr soy other way than that proposed. in. any *thee *ode it would give au oppor tunity-of profit on tbe en', baud which Paeliatueat could not suletioa. •••Als the law annuities terminated in 38 yearw -it would ho-impredeet thit the contract shield terminate in lesetbar , seeds yeses 'after, se It would be a rest lecarrenlosee if both expired at the same time: Tile ritlis wield, - by' this arrangemeat, have a great Veering for ifteewyears ; bat the .ccastreetiog parties Would lose airing that 'period. Th could norete whatobjection Piillatied could have to eecogeise this debt aisd fund It; lige whatever way the payment of It Weddle proetllikt ifor.it was sot intended Hitt if ebottfd have say • reference to the present Sinkleg•Peod:' The piintipte4hat these an nettles wire Wow ti " art the debt tirtbe State could hvidir bet hided; tad a; tact ought idlie provided Ur: A street Walibit Ithicb jxstlfiold titt principle was SIIS adore 'piths chaise which took 'plaii sibeetbese "Mar ks j ettf Ent o:4l." which her duration of the *Wiwi; alifilhquiclefektitti didelthis coon ti7 Side; hid itierritedlte4 Aii4epfq their preseut largehunsignC 4 P4eviniiiftel79ft, they amounted only to" , 880,0001., es appeirir bYtlie . O.ditort • of the Pi nancetorainittre which the ssl"-ore they mounted to s,ooo,oool.—partlybrdmitteresse of the number ofleavor aid allitery Wu Misployad.' . aid partly by the dsorellberal allowances sow' itsoft. 'which' extend to i 'variety of easel nit then pturiaell;ler• &Wier , 'were not the entitled to pertilgese.. illehe 'ex traordi tasty that:gist, Wlrevre out of theiset war, were in telded t o te eog gitXt ' fls&setireee of terse who risked their lives for Diepredirratlinsisf - their: deviltry. He thinight it beeline the widont orPirlitineet to revise those regalationr.—(Hear; bear.l.ti:vetib 'a view of . lessening these eharkee. aid It Wtelipon ' that groans! - tHst the present regulation the' tide* seroly recons• clouded itself . The CoMusi t t e ewoirld sea t e impro pffetp of MO *wail iigletto terfeate details, or mention.' ' ing These terms which Otitettibsentz thttik the parties eight to serept: It was bitter to Mate theni to act fdr ibermielveli. He ma motibilik it necessary to enter Into any farther esplaaation now, at the subject would crime aisle *entice discussion. "The difikih. be would defer till then ? but the applkialltio . el 'the measure wheld, he tlitorght.leproductive of a most beneficial effect. The Right RAIL Geetleman concluded with proposing the. first resolution. " Resolved, that it is the opinion of thit Committee, that the amount of the Naval 'and hi i atiry pensions and chitin perannuations mtly be estimated at about 5,000,0001." ' On the resolution being put; Colonel 'DAVIS said 'he oitjected to the measure t— fiest,,berliulte at the Moment Ministers came &inn to the Hones to tell it they were determined to preserve the Sinking Fund inviolate, they were nultiog a covert at-, tack on it... They were also acting on the unjust pri itch. ple*of relieving theinselveast the expense art posterity. The calculations made were foaqded on deaths alone, sot tio the oontioitency of war or preilnotion. Ile was sitisfled, however. the public would oot'gain by the ar rangement. On 'looking at the soots to he paid by the public, and the contractors, it would be found the public would sustain a toes. ' Portbe last fifteen years the con tractors would pay 63,1180,01101.. the total amount the public would pay Wait period, would be 42,001,000/. In see sesoud period the centimeters would pity 39,600,000 f. 1 and the public 84,000,0001.; thus, in 'this period, the pehlis tumid loos 44.4110,10001.. and on the whole they wield loss 03.400,0001. It was tree there was to he set Inewinst• this. loss the sum saved iiithe first instance. — However, bethought the gsblis would gain no advan teseedmisthemonsere. Three were his ideas which-be thorned it his , duty is state, to the House, however swots lhomasiple es u subject Whisk from its no. ~,i,..: regimes& more SIMS to. Weems Well acqualdid Me. fillflifT aid be was wiry Woo We little at -14 tide Subject bs Hsi thea Oka of the Eiglibbfefilebk, twideetistiy by Woes !Widowers of the a=tll. tlowlealleoe. wife °tight so bet pfloeiyally is: No it wield iteofestid. to 'gorge' is ditwoofifroot Yiwlwfw a e e ry bailey ti or woo paid:thew 1 foe who would softy sas ebatoadtiboak' wideb it was ...es that sT(liireinebt would afford any read. •If the he. p ayed Rai ACt. it nroett coif firm the Sisperasneation Act, lid that :bar itself from revising It. He tosqied theCOMiaittee`wituld 'reject the Revelation; end be declinedit ills intention to give it all his oproition in every magi. • Sir 3. NEWPORT aakedif ,saymais weeld contract On a sfstem which was directly contrary. to the principle on which such bargains were usually made. Ile loam telned that this measure Was in opposition tithe *loci ple of the Sinking Fund: He thought It *child be more rational that the Commiatioaretef the Sloking Feed should be theeontractors. 'lbis would avoid a double machinery and save the bonne to the oontractors, 1 cause whoever contracts will expect a large compeosa lion ; besides, these payments must eventually coins from the public purse. Then as to security ; whatdif fleshy will there not be iri providing an 'decimate seen rity? Bat this difficulty would be removed by mating the Comminioners of the Sinking Fend the contracters. This was the simplest course and ought therefore to los adopted. However this measure might be cloaked as a loan, he could not be persuaded that it was not an in vasion of the principle of the Sinkhole Fund. Me. BEAUMONT thought the errangement certainly tended,to a certain extent, to relieve the Malone. In his opiiiiwtheChineellor of the Exchequer chewed icon risteaey in touching the principle of the Sinking Feed, but yet so far he agreed with him, and only wished that he would become more consistent. and do away with the Sinking Fund altogether. He did not see bow the pre-, met measure would prevent Geotletimen frentiomiag for ward still to diminish the betties of taxes. " hIARTIN weeld dot be surprise/If the'Meem . her for Nortlonnbevland (Mr. Beausiont), itilo *ad for the elmolition of the Sinking Faud.broagist feewardstmb a measure us the present; bet it was strange to see Goo who supported it. brisgieg forward a measure which directly attacked its principle. Why rot'transfer the Long Atinuities to is longer perio.l than 39 years; Life Adnuities were granted every day: the fact was, that Moisten were determined not to give up any of the o 0 beer which they maintained were necessary to be uphold. to preserve the influence of the Crown in that house,-. He thought it necessary to oppose the Resolution. Mr. H. GURNEY said the debt of 6.090.000/. in its owe nature carried with it a Slaking Fund in the de-, miss of the parties. Ministers pledged themselves to . support an librest,* fair 'Sinking Fund ; but the present Measure, if successful, wield render it nominal end fah , lacious. If Ministers were &Free to give uptwa mil- Ben, why netlike it at once from the Sinking Fond. Mr.T. WILSON deprecated invinfringetnent on the Weeking Fund:--One of the good 'effects of that Find that it enabled the wintry to meet any deficiency i .lcathe revenue without having recourse to new.biudept., At the same time he thought the ootition to the vat, sere came with a very bid grace f rom Hon. Gentlemen et the other aide, whO, while they professed themselves edentates of reduction,• objected to it in the °sly potei bit way in which Remold be tarried into ether.. ' MF. RICARDO considered the measure as weemplett infringement of the principle of the Sinking Bends Mss Rigid Hon. Gentleman told theta these eweillh ' ties formed part of the public debt of the couptrs. ,14 asked him then. whether at the end pf the art years. ty the operation of his plan, they woad *lal MOM 10 debt, than if they were to take 2,200,001 Y. from the Sinking Fund. To an invilion of thin' Sinking Food, be (Mr. R.) bad no objection —he had all along advised' . it. But it was the greatest ism/widener oe eimepact his Majesty's Ministers to propose web sxmeepute after their repeated declarations cm the subject. is was a part Of the debt which carried a •Siuking - Fund along with it, and would boally extinguish itself. This plan, he ratihtained, was 'an utter delditon. was neither vore nor less than a scheme to take 2,200,0001. from tb nking,Fuod. inking._ HUSKISSON was not prepared to contradict the aaiertioa lint a SAD of 5,000.000/. payable ale, carried - With it its - own Sinking Find; foe besides' mortality, there were other casualties which tended toil. Bat he louse deny that the pies was in any respect as is' vision of the Siekitig Fond. An annuity for a mines term of.years. as proposed by his Hight Honouratille Friend, carried with it the principle'ef its own e,xtled don. If during %ear we bad. upon a similar priiiclplet borrowed money for forty-five years, we Shedd net sew' have hwl that font ',Mat was culled the One per Celt Annuities. Indeed he was surprised to hear from the Honourable Member for Porterlingtoo. . that he Cana' dered the yroposition es invading the principle of the Sinking nod. His Right Hon. Friend wished to ern. vide for a charge of 5,000,010/. in the best possible way; and, if from peculiar circumstances, it had - arisen to that sum from being only 2,000,000/. he 'would insist that his Right Honourable Friend was at liberty, consistently with the principles of the Sinking Fail'Act, td raise - a lean for paying 0ff5,000,000/., taking care, at the same time, that it should carry with it the principle of its own estit , ction. Hr. would now illustrate the ease as he bad done on a previous night. Suppose we had now a debt of 5,000,0001. in Short Annuities, and that it was advised to convert all those Short Annuities into en annuity of forty-five veari. This would be no invaiionof the Sinking Pawl; it would be only to trans fer to posterity part of the burdens which the p generation was obliged to bear, and there certainly was nothing to prohibit it. By the adoption of this plan, the sum of 5,000,0001. would be applicable to the purposes of the State ; but a larger sum would remain to be paid in the way of annuities, which however were to expire after a certain period. This was entirely a question of expediency, and he thought it only right that posterity sbOuld be charged with some portion of our burdens. Is time of war we bad raised taxes to the amount of 230,000,0001. of which posterity would draw the advantage.—(Goad cheers from the Oppo iiiioa be deniiil that the Sinking Fund had been established for no other purpose than the relief of posterity. The R•ght Hun. Gentleman here entered into a detail of the advantages of the Sinking Fund. soil said that if it were out for it, tie measure of reducing the 5 per Cents. could never have been carried into effect. He deprecated any infractioo upon it, and if the• House bad three years age amic tiooed the proposition for abolishing it, the 5 per Casts. must still have remained unredeemed. The whole question was whether they were sot at liberty to deal with any portion of the debt fur forty-firs years, so as to provide for its estinctiur within that • period. He could not by any amens agree in what had fallen from the Hun. Member fur brisk) (31r; Ilright), that the plan would affect seperaspnatiens. !flee power of the Crown with respect to them re-j waited the same, and the House would bate the sane power it always had of ineply* 1001 the yoke Oat Were required. The proposal which leis Right, Hew, !fiord node to the contractwr ern this—" I will,give r . as 'tenuity for forty -en. non. if you 'awn tq !lve ne a unrolls ass to meet • ecriolWebarffet" oth' mg was note simple or Istelllgilale. It ,winchar _. . . ilf, the ..baSilal a aimnild.,,tatt *Atha; bead., tort out nrulitable to Itha ,contractor,, : we might _to recollect that., ;be long salinity most cease at the end of.foety five ruin, and then we , /boob, be in. the mute state as before. , _,4c. flog. Geotlexpan bad ‘ splal ;that persons, 'geld not contract, if they wen ..to . remain sixteen years wilhoet deriving eurpetifit.. ki r. ItilltiliT.—A yecy great profit. Mr. II rsK i SSON coatinited,—He thought it absiud to say the parties should, advance =miry for, sixteen years without getting any reinin. This could never be the case, for the annuities wriuld always be negotiable in the market. He would again say, that in the prevent circumstances of the country. they were at perfect liberty, considering what they had done for posterity, to make them bear isnot/ part Of the burdens.—(Cbeers from Mr. Brougham.) He very well understood the meaning of those cheers. He was not now disposed to argne with the Hon. andleatned Ileutleisiin .as to the necessity of the late war; bat admitting as he did its necessity to have existed, he tbongla we onght only to bear our average perverting of the expense. He was. however. happy to s e T that there was no probability of oar being. m call open }gals in haste to make the great samillose we had ma e, in ,appporting one irmy and navy. Mr. OILIGIrr and kir. Ilcsnissos3 mutually ex plained. Mr. HUMS eotad not comprehend the object of Ob. ' veimment in bringing forward this proposition. It appeared that the resolutions had as reference whdt • ever to the principal transaction. The lion. Member proceeded to Commeet at some length on the detail, ' of the plan ; observing• that- be.teribirrad it nothltig but a scheme for Yalsieg e loan by means of deferred annuities. As to Abs. etperlieney of the measure, it afforded but a veep piiir pleats support of it. The Right Hoe. Oentletilli l (filt: flustation) bad not an'- swered the qematioa silo whether,' at the end of '4s yeart, we should d net be more in debt by this sew' scheme than we should hare been under the • ordinal' operation of the Stinking Fund.' The 'Hon. Membat next urged some arguments to show that If the • Oki' were td be adopted, • the Commissioners for the red4o l lion of the sot ought. to be the 'Contractors. Her contended that the measure was a direct attack *gel the Sinking Fend—that Feed which the Noble Mari guess opposite end his colleague' bad always p npi teased themaelies se anxious to support. To bits(Nle IL) however, the Sinking Fund appeared a' Men' mockery; 'and though be was not now supplied whit' the ddeitmenri to grove the feet, he could still sly.L'or l unquestionable authority, that had we no Sinkilif Find, we should ba4beeti 35,000,000 f. less is deli thee we are et present. If unfortunately this measure' shoild be sanctionedity the house, he hoped that ft' would be only on the principle of fair competition, and. that ao fivornmetrold be shown to particular indirl daals to the prejudice of the public at large.— (Heir. hear.)—ln the* ceurse of some farther obbervatlons. 4 l the lion. Member said that he considered the whole scheme as great a delusion as ever was practised upon the nubile. c' • t"'". The Marquees of•LONDONDERRY **snot alit& surprised to find sole en &tether lido* bast of them pions for the Sinking Fund, all ready to fight for it, thongb had it lot hen got bim and his friends, they would lung lasfore.Oeir have &strayed it at a blow: flat the present plea. was any thing bat as Wiwi°a of the Sinking Fend. That Find now atinoested se 5,000,000[., and the propoeiiion osly went t o tie it qp to cunspow;iliaterest, instead of simple lamest as heretofore. Its operation on the debt of 500,00004 would not io the slightest degree be greeted is its is ,fluenre ; on the contrary. it woad be strengthened. There was a charge of 5,000,00 W. to be provided for. .end this had been called a debt by his Right Hon. Priced. It was a deb• in one sense, as it referred to certain individuals, bat it coati net be considered aa forming part of debt of the toiletry. The Noble Marquess advanced several .other arguments I. sup port of his plan. . • Mr. GIIENFELL said he could give no opinion as to the propriety or impropriety of the measure. until he knew what was the expense with whiih it was likely to be attended. . Lord ERRINGTON said it appeared to Mm. that the imposed plan could be much better effected by talqag the renef from the Sinking Fund; bat if that costa not be done, he should' be glad to get the best terms he could. Still he thought the diminution of taxation was 'Are only minas by which relief amid be afforded. He admitted that it was justifiable to /brow a certain part of our burthens on posterity, and be was sure. that in the next Session of Parliament a further relief would be re quired in the red action of taxation. Mr. MABERLY conceived that dm projects for sup porting public credit by a Sinking Fund were merely vi sionary, for while that Sinklag rand was kept up, it ' was necessary to raise our unfunded debt to make up the 1 five millions appropriated to that fund; therefore. in stead of a saving, it was adead less to the public. Would [it not he better then to do away with this fond altoge ther, and with the expense attending it? The whole of the present plan wee nothing better than rah. ' ing a loan to bold ant the appearance of relief, wiles no other plan of relief emelt' answer any .purpose but 'that of reducing the expenditure. The present was a mere shifting, shuffling eipediept i and it was high time the House should put an cad to it. Mr. W. it' ILLIAbiS said, that to a real Sinking Fund no man would be more willing to accede than ` 'himself. He bad no otbtr idea of a Sinking Fond, but that of its being a measure to reduce the public ( debt; and as no Sinking Fond hitherto adopted had• produced that effect, he must oppose any plan of the kind, which was nothing more than a delusion on the public. It was oinking more than adding to the debt of the country ; and by the Resolution then be fore the House, they were adding to the public debt. The only effectual relief that could be gives to the ioentry ins a diminution of taxation, which would [enable the farmer to produce the antecede* of life lat a less ranges,. Tbe filiaisters were sow merely I beiegieg forward roatod-abotat scheme% which would only have the effect of throwing the country Into a state of distress and radio. lie. J. 4E0 1 7 'Oa lath 4 41 alFar ie :Prm a th• Sitating Fend as a delusion. bat be a 'id urges for the mama measure.. its age Whiell lallati sol go to Irma posterity sohiely. ,• . , lie. MONCK said. Oa *is of she pjeK7e, awe— puce woe. to .rolimre , the eonatry fent A. priest Mir- As; and though. ha 4$ OK tfartit it she, durst liell• ....• . • • • . .. . . . itIESBIRIII. -.. . • • • • ..... _ Oka 4 irirte WS4aarai 'V shi Oihefli?" ..t * PM, b 1 .4 w ~,, • allftfhP"Vlllg.. rSi ;6 11 %ibe airsuPf. l U .1100 . ; wiiiest4 l ; sw , b/...p , ' - spe...ht7P6AWOgeY ..z.. all ,ani" 1 : : . "I g IPrar.s" .11 at ~kieikill 9 4 1L.1tt itt44•440.4 , 44.b11t •THIrAt Hbot AN . ti oflhe telif cepteopla " ilk's deft* ..iesil.ffaal 4 l .lpt papareillilMo etalMatatiotts bpfore. to At dm eloie of the lati war, wbea be (dm Motel- m i n a 1it ..41%,4 goy ad usi t st j ‘ ,l •Npa i p . , ilit ee;. ."T .. . . W)' bad auaiios to •be in; forward •a . 'measure foe t hey ~,,,,td. gt , davi ii & d.ii.f ro arni, Rig, stab L ea thie. .1111210.2LI114 ...._ 0 1 1,._l_h!_.e.e_atr . ite k- i ; , !as . Id ps tabe s tr ._. _„..,,,.....: the irsereau of the balf-pay of certain brandies of the Dation. He bops& the .11u. Waiter kr. Puss :1, 110 .1 1 " - W f a ' rli tiNt " ... g 4 .. 11 4 4, ih * .7 I (11 ! IT' service, IM bad termed it u a debt of public 'gratitude. (Mr. Correa) womb; Oat be iodated (*glee ep lei, i n .- Ige. lk wat,p.osuhip. WO the puty eight it•ei• by Hie, ~ Is sthei easing" Ilia f t a of eptteed o pieau waa ever tuition of moving for a repeal If tbe Joather Tait, so- cooleul..or .wily wait' -wary little E la altber.eau. ws ma emaidetail is that way, la Fraga it fount a . fart o4j•d e e the i,lim that thlitiovel, rcutireuteat would altorti A h ? at t i p ot. ,i t e wen. t it *bo as " I . v " le.present. to as national debt of that country.. It was Ma with 11l any relief. •If the Haase pass ed Obis Aet. It *trOatt o t e tli I s . t i 111 4. 4 -.411 4 0. 54,6 W. , 014 010,4 the; Isaac taut (tut l . _.._._ v_.,, .J.- 'Y .1..... a..trt...er wren. ' A . . ~ .._ . • . ...11. ••• ...A...11.A 1 A ss; India shenbi 004 eke dishing • AMA min awlledlalle star &bk. bet +dm premot pia ,estitimot passim" toy onakoffitw.-... If s.di tidal/Simi • -• gloat b. kept mp.ittositimW lo► dimmed of &UAW • • waettiorty.mitith at vaunt .holonnoskto It. Mr. W. dMiTil • wished is know what was dm talcalatimai tn amiltitaitudems • so be eMineeled. • . The I CUANCELLOII. of Alm EXCIMIQUER said dm. paperer saloilstiono lennoti ot.part of the Rue. lutionea hot/ the elaicelatiese omit made to an esti stat• of the age, of the savor 1 ausnitigenas. . .Mr..llllol.lilfAhl aeWd. dwarf way nothing which : frail Waded te,!elwt.-.lbe, iterreellee • which he had fortneid on the lird 'smartie' tit the plea. .They bed Ooteonsattreepted.te deny or disguise Ode this plan was . is direct cmgradittiou Indio sinking Feud; it was in contratlictioa. .is thatioutios ef that fund. Every hundred peoesda.every pursed which it affected to lave wee jest so -mach taken frees that feed. The N o bl e L or d hurl gonewbeld.otahe Slaking peed in one quarter, sad is another Um Vhoottedor of tie Ex chequer wes toper it away. • Thus the sum caste from the mate . parsec ; the public .always paid tie piper-4i Was the 'atm operation soder different oases. The Noble hfisquem bosh helped totilestrato lily of this glorites, schools for the relief of posterity, otod that ether equally gletiinta wheats., which was ~t o t h row aeon posterity a part of the burdens seder which the public mere pew sairetieg. The present schema was ■ coommatatitentan senility oe lives, into a filed aonsity foe the podia's( .14 years. Givens. ..at. bad to go lute Use eaetket for this. They were 4 0 PaY immally far an annuity which no w a r s e 6,81)0.,Q01 4 •whieh would, according to 'the cateshatinuu be tyro. ghillies. altos* Meaty years hums: sot which, at the sad of forty-Gre years, 'soil ,bo.rednoad ,to setbiog. Could it to looted, that &Mop the Nast 141 Ptthnt polod posterity would pay gessidaralaistiMlNN *ad that deriag the last years of it they monist 934 f 2400,4001.?. Let Gentlemen retina thi e ea. ebe*oldog Food, awl they would And that era urtwolinedoolui posterity on the one hand, sad re. lierioutimmasA tho,nther ; and all this fur so app.• rest porposiasta ibis of paying the 'stresses ef eta ,neglittelat itutteth cwt. The operations were siren!. -- -"taas and en their joist effect was teething but Ifiltaring , upon. the,preeost generation tie expense of stanagemont This was the way to mystify, to wrap M the import of a Ostler in Ike. abstrosions of aritb eastic, hut it Ina *oathe wag to relieve the roguery. elle( meet.: howeiter. , he affaided and he trusted but all iltaparado of nrishmetie world not blind Ike few.Motabssa.rlact were present. He could not help ..ggreatiag that that number sus so few : but it really .ler;bat the • anxiety of Umbra' to from tialy thillikase, was is tin exact ratio of the iimpinsasee talthet ditty. He trusted, however, that .tts few whom the importance of the present question had Pot heat able to mare away—those few who had gerjatod , from the ;malice—As enders practice of INAlispent, woahlawst allow themeless to be taken in by the topolifinatiou of the Noble, Marquess, aid the arithmetical the Right Hosouralsle Gentlemen. • Mr. WILSON did not think the plan would trench en the Slokiag Find. Besides, the annuity was to be UPI* 05.6 pascoprico, sad as we bad a chasm ot taro se throsingo t tlotiagtho 4i _years, as advastage 'itt *lmes dorivied. Mr. ,HICARDO-4f this plan of selling the lallpay oa,o,pons.oneot,aostity•weee to be so advantage.... s tpkp, sot sell Ia Ilitopaanner she whole expenses of ths .relis•al.o..etlitliplages.. of such an arrangemeot re. -.tethba *AIA Mt 0144, more importance in the *mat of 'Mal vie ss , :: r bIARRRLY7—Why not extend it to the ioterest et the 4otiostal debt, which, at the same rate, woal,t produce as anneal saving of, 15 millions? • Mr.. LIRHUGHIA,M.—WonId the Chancellor of ti e Incboluer hays anY objecdoe to extend it to those 11.11asisacied..Mbeiskilai salaries which were bell upon nearly tho, same. term* as the half pay ? The Marquess of LONDONDERRY was thankful fur the informatiou Whist the Hon. and Learned Uen• ,eleman bad gives him. He could see no propriety. however. in the lecture which had been read to tie House by an Honourable Member. who, after enjoy ing a good dinner, bad come down at sine o'clock, if. not to disturb the debate, at least to mystify the country. Mr. BROUGHAM assured the Noble Marquess that he bad been in the House at the opening of the debate. sad had been absent only two hours and a half, and that too in the belief that very different matter was to occupy their attention. Even during his absence the House had had the advantage of the opinions of his Hon. Friend (M r. Ricardo), with whom be entirely coincided in opinion. Mr. HCSKISSON—The Hon. Member alluded to, stated his opinion to be, that he haew oothieg abet the ;natter. - Mr. BROUGHAM had got no answer to his ques tion from the Chancellor of the Ezeheqner. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re plied. that the Honourable Gentleman would h ire beard tke answer, had he been present at the opening of the debate. The question on the resolutions was pat, and the gallery cleared ; but no division took place. The resolutions were then put. Mr. HUME proposed, as an amendment to the fourth resolution, that the Commissioners of the Sink ing Fund should be named as the purchasers of the annuity. diri This Amendment was negatived wi t hout a aion. The rosolutions were agreed to; the other Orders of the Day were read, and at half-past twelve the Douse adjoaroed MARRIED. Oa Satnrday. Charles Eley, Esq. of Newington-rem, WMReser., to Harriet, youngest daughter of Reny Some* Esq.. of Broadield-bows, Retie. Oa Taesdey last, at liornsey, Archibald Maebean. Ent • it the Ronal Artillery, to Emily, only daughter of Me. Johnston, iZeq. of Musweil-hill. Newialton, Mr. E. Gisi Ow the 11011% alt., it St. Mary's, Hogthits, to the eldest dasgbterat E. 11. Clark, Esq., of Pere at Chiswick church, Peter Cloves, Est• of tb e •rols of liuo d, s -tomer.ets. M Gu y, ealy daughter e alamisel Pide Adted. Prhited, sod POMO 70 ,irs Whin. kit" aird "ao T 01 1 1 1 V1ILM repie)..llo.llV/. Styled, II W AD S ' elbosi gowasniatiO“. Or*" W i t leydreslo. • • -Ti I+ `' ~4 ~!i! „ NI ,• -i 1 ! 1 w 0. 1 se sai 00 1111 z lea ca l The that ii V ~: PI 1 ••p a all 1111 Sift • Slim