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V I 1.. I , • 1~ I r .~% ~ i ~ _ ~~ 'lawn-, to recttpt their' Cl aplain fmr 'the penat fir% regard to the Chhplain Central of lis Mejsets's forces, the Chaplains em hoard his hiajesty'e ships, the Chaplains it. M.tjesty' thek s aids, of the corps of artillery. end eerie others enunteratedin the clause. the naming them was al tegether uiniecessary, becanseAry .:her exem. ted already by an Mt of Het Ty die Eighth, - .pro - nets 1 • I to :lc iassilig the 2 A of chet - King. The ie)ItD•CHANCItiLLOR read the clause of" the AR to which the Biehot referred,. Lo sheer him, that it will, by no means 1k to coyer arty one of the 'description of the persons 'etrumerated to the clause. Lord ALVANI.F.I" nrgtied to the same effhfl.• The Bishop of T. ASAPH reasoned again.; ft *teeing C.!iaplaies of Factories abroad, and Minor - Canons ; the latter, generally speaking, had good though that wile not, the case in the colle giate church dflrestminst.t, since by the regula ' tenis of tbe Chapter the Minor' Canons were v holly shut out from any share of the patronage of that -cathedral. With regard to chaplains in Fafteries abroad, if that circumstance was, to entitle men •lerssessed ( . .f benefices in England to gsemptlon from the peeelty on N'on-residence, a clengyman with a lis'i.sg laird nothing to do but to accept of a chap lainship of a Wary abroad, to secure exemp tion. The LORD CHANCELLOR contended, it was -of the umhet in:pert:ince to the interests and pre servation of the Christian religion, that in countries where a different religion prevailed, the British fee +tories should have a Protestant clergyman among them, to do the duties of the Protestenechach, to •celebrete divine set vice, and to atiminisur all the offices of a religious nature to the Paitish subjeas which censtitu:ed the tettory, as well as other Pro testants, 5:14) night by et the piece when the faftory was established. Instead of vexing and harrassing elergyir.en of this description, they were entitled to every possible consideration and eecourayernent, and there.ectre they ought to'be' favoured with the •exemption the clause extruded to them. Beside, •several of them had small livings, but insufficient to enab'.e their incumbents to maintain their fami lies; • they therefo:e accepted of cheelainsi!ips to fa lurks abroad, meter it a hope that they might in ti.ne actotirehufficient to usable them to hewn to ehe . gland, g rraiJe urtin their liri: S . 4 ALVANLEY said, it was a most extra -ordinary cenjectnre of the lieu. Trelate, to suppose .that a man with a good living would accept di the clieplair.ship to a factory, merely to obtain an ex -emotion from the penalties for hen-residence. The Bishop of LONDON said, let had hitherto ta'een but little Share in the discussion :if the clauses, but be was friend to the enumeration el the spi. ritual persens to be exempted, 'and he meant to in crease their ie.:reser, by rr.oving an emend:trent to -ieslute others, siz. the 'Masters of threa established corporate Schnols, St. Peel's school, the Chatter liousa, and Merchant Taylors, which be moved -to have inserted, carried. The Bishop i f WINCHESTER also moved to insert, the Chaplain of the 'Military Asylum at ('helsea, and of the Royal Hospital for &Whirs, hick was put and agreed to. Lord AUCKLAND said, it waswhinasicai enough to see their Lordships, who came down to the louse to thjea to the enumeration of spiritual rcr s Ins to be exempted frdm the penalties, themselves a idieg to the nue.hets. His Lordship concurred with w hat had fallen from the Rev. Prelate behind him, via. that some of the Prebends of 1. ford had beuer be away from the University than in it, as they did no good there.' Ile had himself been a Member of Christ Church, and etthile there, sonic of the Fellows of different Col leges did little more than read the newspapers at the coff.e-liousrs in the morning, and at and after dinner soak port, and perhaps play a game at chess or drafts in the evening ; others certainly werestu siious men. There was a Chaplain, which it be hoved Lim as one of the Direaors of that hospital .ior upwards of thirty years, to move to have in ' serteti, via. the Chaplain or Chaplains of Green wich Hospital. 'fircse gentlemen had a very severe efuty to perf.iri» at the Hospital, and having, he .helieveti, small livir.gs, ought in fairness to be ex ithrpted them the Fenalties fur non-residence, He therefore melted it. J t was put and agreed to. The Bishop of OXFORD objected to the exemp tion of .Fellows of Colleges, and detailed a history of the practice of the Fellows ut Oxford ; these men -cans to College livings at some distance (nun the 71;niversity, but some re them preferring an indolent and ease life, chose to re Side at the University, not to ,assist it. the good works of education and scieme, that were going on there, but, in raft, contsihtitieg, sby their Q:.or:ple,-:plc, reterd. He 6.1 not mean to say, that all et the renews of CeD eges t oed in this •improperrnarizter, but sclera' did. Very many Fel • lows of -Colleges, he must do tl.'tn the justice thsav, led exernriery Jives, and were worthy, studious, ar.d -learned g l en; but lie thought those proposed at lie +les would do more service to thei r p ar i s hi oners , if • r. They resided' less :tt the University and more in their cwn parishes. The pretest of a desire to comply - with the statutes of their respeftive colleges, was but a shallow cover for the practice of those who ne gleaed the duty of their offices as Pastors of Flock, eo live in the University, and be useless members of it. The, had better be away. Earl GROSVENOR gave an account of the prat- * tice of the Fellows of the King's College, Cant bridge; he stated the number of them, and the re-, ruletions that had obtaine d within these ten years to speaing their livings, which they .had .restrained themselves to, nanitly, le inns within twenty Miles ti:staet lean the University. His Lordship sup petted ale worth of the cause. Th..: Bishop of NORWICH circumstantially enu merated thc.aumber of Fellows belonging to each college in Cambridge, and described the sort of livings that fell to their lot, shewing that the col le.es, had very thw good livings in their g ift, an d that most of 'them were, as the Noble .Lord had stated, restrained ,to within twenty miles Of the Univehity. . His Lordship gave a high charaSer of the conduit of all its officers of every description, and said, for regularity, keening, and every branch of seiessee, lie was persuaded the University of Cam- Iridge never stood higher. The' '.1.020 tHANCELLOR said, he -differed entirely from a Riv. Prelate who had lately spoken Biehop of Oxford; revisiting the Prelsendseetitling in their colleges. - .The Rev. Prelate eras fur driving as many of .ttiem as he could from the University. ..1 " Nose wi.h Was to keep them as much' as pos sihle at the University. Thce more learning and science there could be -colleted at -each, that of .. y • ~ . - _ •~ . La CaMbritire Ind ikat r ads u g e g us AA it tor* of lily u and , loriour4st . :ions. I TA Biehip. ST, AS APH ..J cts-tainlv, if the • k a rcs ofeollegts did spend their time in Col lege merely in ‘oaking port and reading the news- TaLiers,, as 114 been Eiud, it was extrtrae!y wrong ; buil& &tad hove like , praake was not general. - . rarioty - of olher observatiOns were made upon .aadam..............siNAunahnoce: IMPITIMIS rani (Yll Inc c - rnaw• The Dish' p DURHAM said, he had been. an Fetoiiian, and he welt knew the present master, and could ;answer for his being an excellent and most respeaable chara.ter, well entitled to the be nct Of the-clause. • The Bishop of ST. ASAPH said, he had no.ob jection, to exempting the Master of Westminster school, but lie had, to exempting the Usher. The former was ap;,obted by the I.:aan, but be had no power or authorite over the Ushers ; and it was not impossible for a Master of Weetminster-school, w:to himself appointed his Usl•ers or A.sistants, to abuse that power, and make nominal Ushers, merely to entitle those nominal Caters to exemption from non res.dence. It was answered, that it was not probable that any Master of Westminster-schOol, who must himself be a respectable, and nnqueStionable character, would be guilty of so gross an abuse of hit office and his pow er. ' All the Bisheps fobjetted to the diXerert per sons, who they theught ought not to be among the list of positive exemptions, but to be obliged to ob tain licences from their Diocesans, anti by that means sttli,jeft the grounds on which they requested such license to the cognizance and discretion of their . Bishops. At length the Committee divided on the words a or Usher." Contents (that it stand part. of the Clause) 19. Not Contents 19. atving gone through the clause, the Bishop of LONDON proposed a proviso to he annexed to the clause, or to follow it, the elial of which was, that each nen-resident was to state to the Bishop, that durin g ; his nori-residence a Curate or Curates would he resident cn his beneEce to perform all the clerical duties of the parish, and that he or they were to re ceive an adequate cnmpensetion out of the income et the living, of which adequacy the Bishop was to judge, and such Curate or Curates was noato be absent from the cure or non-resident, but in such cases, as the Lida.? should OA sufficiently satis . faCtery.tojustify his consent to his or their non-resi dence. lota AUCKLAND, and Lord ALVANLEY sue sorted this Amendment, deelai kg severally, dlatthey could have been satisfied in agreeing to the whole of the clause just gone through, if they had not believed it would have been followed by some • such proviere as the Rev. Prelate had proposed... The LORD CHANCELLOR said he had, rex doubts whether such a proviso would ultimately be necessary. He knew that there' was a Bill in preparation on the express subjeft of establishing a better provision for the inferior clergy, and respeCt in- curates and tbeit residence. With regard to the proviso, he might, after due time for his coosidering it, bring his naiad on an.other day to agree to it, and be would endeavour to do so, but it had not been heard of before that clay, and to press it now would be to take the Committee by surprize. Besides it need not come in just in that part of the Bill, but after some enbsequent clauses, which it would more PrlPeril folkw ; he requested, therefore, that the Right Rev. Prelate, who had done himself the highest honour in enforcing residence in his -own diocese, would consent to withholding it for the present. The Bishop of LONDON said, be took no credit for his conduct in the respea to which the Noble and Learned Lord referred ; he had merely done his duty ; and he had not the smallest deolo, but that every one of his reverend and leer:ter! bre. thren would bare acted in the same manner under the same circumstances. It certaiuly had been 1 cacious, and produced beneficial advantages, its there scere at present one hundred mare resident in cumbents in iris diocese, than he found when he first was appointed to it. With regard to the proviso, out of respect to the Noble and Learned Lord, under the idea that it was hereafter to be attended to, he would rea.lity withhold it for the present. The Clause was they agieed to. .The next clause was to ens sr, that per inns en titled under 23 Henry the Eighth; to privileve of non-residence, until forty years of age, are not to be entitled till after twenty-six. The Bielop of ST. ASAI'fl objelled, to this on the ground, that men of only otventy-six, who had livings, cni:ld not et threage be supposed to have a sufficient share of thaological learning, to qualify them for a due . reiforktunce of their sacred duties of • their clerical cliaraair, and that they eoighz to be allowed to continue longer resident at the Unisn- • s:ty, where they might at much theology trout the Yalu:ile volismes to be read in the vairtuts pttb Sic libraries. 11 they wets to their livings, they - would perhaps take no books with them, but a Latin pillion:ire, is 1.e7,ic,,n, •st• Conan-Jac:7e; and sonic hodge-poage popular expvition of the Bible. They could :;::quire no ;;;cire tikolop p ical liter.irl knowledge, than they carried with them• e to. a t ; when they went to their livings at a distance,- . At the Universitiet they had every assistance and improvement, he the:cf.:re wott:d move to omit the words, o twenty-six years" in order to insert the words " thirty years," and then their Lordships would have cut off .ten years out of the forty, granted by the old Apt of 1-eurt the ILightli. Idis Lordship moved accordingly. Lord AI.VieN LEY said, four years were not worth contending for, and therefore the clause Lad better stared as it did. • • -• • • The Amendment Wes nenatived. u The Committee went through the .next clauses. That, eotine " that no penalty shall be recovered be ezecuteett; against the person of a Spiritual Percor, ;-hire the.yl can be recovered by sequestration of the profits cf the benefice ; and that enacting, " that Archbishops nod Iliallops may, CAI petition and.such proof at may be required by such Archbishop, &c. grant licences in C:Leienumeratedin this AO," with but few °fuer-. vations; and as thenext clause, enacting, " that 1 icences may begranted in certain cases, aad that Spiritual Per suns argrieved by aefusal, may appeal to the Archbi shop,' was li kel yto occupy a good deal nf.remark and time, it was agreed on thesnggestion of the L ordChan- ccltor to yn-der the Chairman . to report progress, and adjourn till to-morrow at Threoo'CloCka--Orderede As on as the Hoese %vas -resumed, the Chair- • • man reported progress, and asked leave to sit again. Ordered. —.Adjourned at Heil after Nino. • • . • •ifpiatly: 9F . ..ctibnotta, ... sl , •THOIRSDAY, JVVE it •ti i(Kstook thk:Oatlis and his seat *Ns& tutyl . • A, Measage from the Lords announced they hid agreed to the Sheerness Pier, and scmg . oiher Fri vale Bills. • " 4 TT I-loose in a Cernmitrec nn the 11111 fdr itnend ing the At of the 4211 George 111. fOr the reguinrion ofwerk-houges, np(11 which the Chairm.cycbtained leave to bring a Bill. ... The Irish rarsoni g e Bill went through a Commit tee, and the Report ordered to be received to.-mr.or ron. __ N&VAL OFFICAR . S. CARL ST. VINCENT. Mr. WHITBREAD called the attention of the House to the Report made by the Commissioners appointed to enquire bun the abuses of the Navy.— This commission, he said, was appointed in conse quence of the visitation which Earl St. Vincent and some of his colleagues had made to the dock-yards. What he had to propose was, a Motion for the Mi netes of the Evidence taken before the Commis sioners, as the conduct of the Noble and Gallant Earl had been severely animadverted on in some eublicetions. • The opinion of the Commissioners would appear on a future occasion, and the public must expect it with some degree of im patience.--As far as he could yet understand, . the visitation was likely to cab great good, and had discovered great delinquency. He con cluded with moving for a copy of the minutes of the examilettione and evidence, taken before the ummissionees appointed to enquire into the Zbuses existing. in the Navy and Vialialling hoards. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER erpresscd his regret at being obliged, an the grounds of reason and justice, to oppose the motion•of the Honourable Gentleman, though brought forirsad upon motives which he did not suppose any person could disapprove. Every one who knew the cha- . meter (.1 his Noble Friend (Lord St. Vincent) must be sensible, that greater reliance should be ' . placed on its soundness, solidity, and strength in • the national opinion, than in any thing that coils result from the motion nowproposed. Some beteer parnamentery ground should have been made out . -for se eh a motion, which must necessarily leadeto some further proceeding as yet unexplained, as no charge of negleet of duty, misconduct, or inatten ' don. had e'er horn attributed to the gallant Earl ? Would the Hon. Gentleman wish that - Ail- . sa ranch vigilance and exertion, the business of en .quiry should be taken ,out of his Noble Ftitttes hands* Ile kncw.that Lord St. Vincent wished all the proceedings w be knoverk e but that was no ground for a *parliamentary proceeding, and if the Hon. Gentleman did not think proper to withdraw his motion, though the whole of the subjeet must ul. timately come under the consideration of Parlia ment, he should for the present find himself under the necessity of moving the previous question. Captain MARKHAM, (a commissioner of the Admiralty) spoke with indignation of the calum nies, which went forth against the board of Ad miralty, and the conduit of Earl St. Vincent, and thinking that the charafter of the board should be vindicated, he wished the minutes to be produced im mediately, and therefore should vote in favour of the motion. • Sir WILLIAM ELFORD opposed the motion. He paid the highest compliments to the talents, and exulted charaeter of the First Lord of the Ad miralty, and thought the House should not judge of matters of such an important nature, upon ex &tree evidence, which was all they could have at present. Sir CHARLES POLE represented that the mo tion, if carried, could only afford the House ex plate evidence ) given by the very persons themselves who were implicated in charges. Sir A. HAMMOND seemed to feel indignant at any insinuations against the Navy Board, the mem bers of which were - so attentive to their duties, it 4 to sit six or seven henrs every day. The com missioners on abuses were still continuing their en , quiries, and all that the Admiralty could give was a copy of the proceedings. It. was impossible to fount any udgment, till the report should be pro perly laid before the House. As to die Navy. Beard they h"Ail a right to expect a liberal core!ua frym the fidose. They had a rt-part now ready., but the Home could not well determine, till they. had • the Wale orit . behire them. • Mrc•COURTENAY observed, that nothing per srmal could possibly be meant; the Minister himself had defended the conduct of the Noble E ill at the head of the Admiralty. the motion only went to the prodation, which could not, after the decla rations of the Minister, be consistently refused. These documenti would, he understood, slew ninny abuses which never had been checked be ftsre. Ever) , one must admire the wonderful ta • leni - a an& services of that illustrunil . Olßer, who did and should ever maintain e arum et nv.moribile ti•imen nixtum notara prod tat.tubi.•• A dmitad BERKELEY spoke against the motion. The AT FOR NEY 'G EltA L also strenuously _contended against it._ The enquiry of the Com niissionets, he said, was still e and the minutes of their proceedings should not he taken from them, as it would give ofenders such intimation as may frus. 'ttate the obje.fts of the commission. Every thing necessary wnu come forward at a proper and con venient time. Let the proceedings have their na tural course, and let them afterwards be .investi-. gated. However high the charaeleref Lord St. Vin cent may stand, which no man valued snore highly than he the Commissioners were men in an equal degree of estimation. Is was competent to -the Hon. Gentlemen and every other Member to ABove for suppressing' the commission ; but as no teerliementary grounds had been made out, the mo anti was premature, and any disclosure would only apprise the culprits of what they had to expect, 'and by those means to defeat the ,ends of justice. lor these reasons he should move for the previous question, should the motion be persisted in. Colonel BASTARD was in femur of the motion; and Mr. HARVEY against any thing which would involve a discos.ion of a character so illustrious as that of Earl St. Vincent. Sir FRAti.:IS BARING considered Lord St. Vincent •as o.le of the greatest officers that ever ex isted, and was proceeding, when he was inteiropted as digressing from the question. • Mr. SI lERIDAN opposed the opinion advanced by die &tame; Gen.a-4 lad imbued in favour of . _.mr41 21 , lie 'IAN. It was unfair, every thin:: considered,. ;to wait fot the final report. 'lime most manly and ra Iliber i b i litde would be to form th e iusinuation& ... gsi First Lord of the Admiralty, apd bring them openly before Parliament. By the present system, the matter would be left in a very r.:l - state, autLin the present i:nportant situ ation of aleirs, whet' there seemed to be a com petition between two boards ; those r. ho deserved - the honor of having done every thing to cone& Abuses should receive it. -.-Sir A. HAMMOND explained, that what he ! alluded to in respeft to the Hoard of Admiralty was . rot meant as any imputation, hue that the Navy . Board could not, under the present system; go on as pleasantly as it might otherwise. Mr. WHITBREAD in reply, observed, that aft e r what had been • said, he did sot mein to persist in his motion, but to be distinSly informed, before ho relinquished it, at what time any motion on this sub.; jest would be brought forward The CHA EL NCWR of theTEXCIiEOI.T. ER said, that it was certainly his intention to bring the abuses alluded to, and the report of the commis sion, under the consideration of Parliarnein,in the course of the present session, but co •i.' specify no particular time for doing s 6. The "louse then agreed that time motion should be withdrawn. After a short conversation, the third reading of the Woollen Menuladurers Bill eves deferred to thA day se'nnight. ; The Ship burning Bill was read a tlArtl o tirae, anti passed. !.! The Report of the East India ";hipping Bill was ordered fur to-morrow. • On the Report of the Scotch Militia' Feliertill e - Col. ,BAGIArgLL Fare notice of his leteetion t 6 Move for a irrtiliii: Dili' noire:and, where the w.ves of men, after lee leg their huthands, to; ether with their families, tvere, according to I.lw, liable to be ploceeded apinst as vagrents. : Ms'' COW Y assured him, that in any rntereure dr that kind which was prarticable e ile rely be assured or the eoncurrence of the Gervernment. • 'I he ate . cessity.of&och a system had)ong been felt, but he had seen no Oen yet which wes r.ut liable to nu: : nserotri ol?jeflidns, which it would afford him great pleasure to - 044 trie ussistance in obviating. ! Mr. M. FITZGERALD announced ids i n te n t • th a op i rofing sifpiritieeisuee - Whenever It should be•broug he le,mvard: • . . Mr. "WILBERrJRCE *as proceeding to ex pres his sentiomentt, when he wet called to orde4 1 as the Speaker olio:pied that, tte,ceaversation was totally upconnetted with the sohjeet of the Scotch Militia. . s. s . . The Bill leas theft-read a second time. The Bill 'fair affording - merchants accoinmoLla tionsio trade, was brought up and agreed to. RESTRICTIONS ON TILE Ins!' BANK. •Mr. CORRY, (the frith Chancellor of the Ex chequer.) moved, that the House should resolve itself/Tao a Committee, to consider of the prop r i et y of restrietlng the payment of notes, by the bank ef Ireland; which being complied with, he expatiated on the propriety of the measure, while the same system was pursued in England, and rendered a matter of exigency; by the great issue of small notes for silver in that country. He otierved. that there were a variety of opinions on the subject, and he wished to give every Gentle man an opportunity of making *very possible in quiry, before the Houle came to a final determina tion. He wished to have the report printed, and the consideration of it deferred until 'the Ist of ita nuary, 1804., by which time the Parliament would have met again; in order ;het Gent's:Mei Migio. determine What was best to be done. , Colonel BAGWELL observed, that in the coun try in which he lived, there was scarce any silver whatever, and unless a silver coinagewas substitut ed for silver paper, it would be impossible to go coo If the paper we suppressed, it would be absolutely necessary to have scene .seboitute. 1 Mr. CO RR's.' repeated. that there was a great va riety of opieieee. en the subject. some persons had stated; that in coneeeenenee of the silver notes sil ver had decieased.: l This was no; a time to argne that subje4l, it Might be fully discussed next Session of Parliament. He had stated that the silver paper should be stopped on the Ist of itraary, 1804, tin:- less the Home, which would certainly - meet befori that time, shoidd,:elmilik . preper to order to the core. miry.. 'the .tinwe to enter upon the sulejeel would be in the alert Session of Parliament:. • He declared, that in the province in which he lived, there we're no such things as silver notes; silver was as eleraer as in London. He believed there were persons wile, t:tkinf.., advantajeof the Bank I:estriCtion Ad, het get the silver into their .posses-non, and either hoard ed or sold it; it. was owing to that circumstance the silver had disapee.ued. 1 he e people, in consequence ef the facility efferded by the use of their paper, were relieved from mtmediate ernbarnitement. The persons who had ' issued these notes were in posses. . sion of al! the silver, and to that was owing the scar e city. Ile was of opinion, that the stoppe;;seef the silver notes would be the means of producieg toe silver that was hoarded. Mr. WICKII AM was of opinion, that the issue of silver netes was not necei:ary. Ile certainly shouid support the measure proposed by the Hon. Gentle,. man. One of the (neural:tante:s which proved to him that such notes were not necessary, was, i:-..4 • they had been introduced for the purpose mentioned, that they had not been issued by any of the re speetable bankers, at least not 'to any extent. Col. BAGWELL said, the Hou. Gentleman was pettedly right. The hi•uses of the brit closequenco in the South of Ireland had objecled to the issue or them, and their reason was, the. st.'tmp eflixed lo them rendered it not worth their while. Owing to their having declined to issue them, - they .fell into ` the hands of persons of an inferior description. ES was one ef a number of perser.s who went to a bank to intreat them to issue notes, .in order to prevent inferior banks from doing so. .He thought if thcia issue was not altogether suppressed, at least every thing that oas possible mein to be done to check them. • Mr. WIEICHAM said, else fans stated by the Hon. Gent..:-, wan had Mlle a great impre ss i an on his mind. If the stamp was a reason for the large bankers not entering into the trade, he wishedeo know how it was that the inferior houses could afford to carry it on, and contrive to make Those nrefits the large bankers could not obtain. He thoughtit avoula turn out that there was another preSlce of a nature subsidiary - to this; 7te kneent tteprae.ice (4.* ,per chasing eite silver that was ce_•t of circulation. i 212 e question was ihen pat tot 404/0-to)oriazing , . . • .r~ t 4t.