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i ! ri 1 ' I: 1:11 I,'. i I ) pi t i 1. , . , . _ ,i.,,,, ii,• ~ z litl of determining the slut witisotake -, the not the obseevatioult pf,hifs f.fpn„F;rjett,s4 ,his e truo. went of ItsPolllrsl,WWW 9 t 00 41 4 t * e * "'• swis mitt tp teiFq.lo4.V9uir kow unpreOisibleit, erns likely to prote,to. Eptstk ut poy,tpeasure such novelty u thitt 'Fels* Itc, this free, and„; Am. he 'Fuld cal) ,itp •try, si there was ,no .p,u1 0 1e4,, which ,tould , usig, demi • and ; receive ronstdqation. The Honour,, ahlr. I .l4ver tied described a eerie): f? 1 cameo fisi the 'misery • whit+ hehad printe d lei rather tnj gloving. colourc. Machinety had binishid had labour, and the coun t ry was never to be happsk ittoit the plough* being "belished and the 'spade, restored, she were all at work dig4ing'in the'otten fields. He protested sgitini.t . the introduction"Or ihroretie specolutions into the business of Portia . . ment, which was already too eatensive and difficult. fl• .as not sure that Mr. Owen's plan could be at all facilitated by Parliament, as it ought to be left to dad its own live!. He could uever Undertake r , tirtrelf to recommend the plan of throwing the enoutry into parallelograms. Were that to take place, this would no lugger be the grist country .which it had been. The system might be gond tor the regulation of pour houses, but would 'sever tiara great nation, having their political strength mid vaned interests to uphold. He opposed the nietion. Sir W. i)g CIESTIGINY justiti.4 the charactir p 1 Mr. Owen's establishment at Lanark. He Itiots.glit that no place was no will lined for the con sideration pf,tneasures conducive to the welfare of mankind as the House of Commons. He cons !rested the decent and iiitelligent coodition of Mr. Owen's school with nun, of those which exiided iwtowo, which, in-teed .of briug woeful, were sinks • pf • alsoroinatowr and sources, of crime. He con ijitclesl by supporting the motion. Ntr. Hums had never before beard a speech from the Noble Lard winch hail/hien him so much antis fiction. Ile Au:corded with :every. , oenterice of it. 1!• he-proposition. respect nog. Mr. Omeri's plan were calenlated to ameliorate the condition of the poor, be would •he ready to IlbiliPOrt * it. But it only Weld to destroy the indenendent and national cha racter•of Englishmen. UN objection to it was, that it wits toe orderly. Every thing was to be done bY our cfmn. Distinction, open to every one in this Coon. try, could not be sought in Mr. Owen's parallelo grams. If men were not elated on to think, they never would think. Circumiletteev mist act upon ibein, or they never Could elerite themielves to the condition to which it was poisible for any man to raise himself in this country.• . Mr. F. BUXTON ugreed with every sentence of the Noble Lord, and disagreed with every one in 'lie speech of his Hon. Friend'thellisiver.. He ob jected to the quadrangular 4iiiiidiseS of Mr. Owen ; yet he found motives enough to induce him to sup port the motion. Ile expatiated on - the inherent and prolific vicesof the poor-houses and some of the charitable establishment! and admitted the good order and decent economy of : the schools on Mr. Owen`s estate. They (the Hotive) had much to learn on tlist subject, and Mr. ,O.sen had much to teach them, and fur this tempt) he would recom- Ail* the House to adopt tj l e es olia n , Scsist.scre objected to the motion, because the object was not auffieiently specific, and because he thought the proposed mode of inquiry was unfit fur the adoption of the House.. Mr. GURNEY did not like the • projects of Mr. Owen ; but considering the distress which had pre vailed in Mr. Owen's part of the country, and that lie had in this period of suffering screened 2,000 per. wait from it, he thought there wacennugh to induce .the House to confirm to the institution of a Corn .mission, to inquire how far Mr. Owen's principles were applicable to the wants of particular classes in society. Mr. WiLeaseoace objected to the motion, be. -cause he thought it very easy for five or six Gen- Ai rmen o f th a t Hnu,.e to go down and examine Prlr. Owen's ertablisluneut for themselves, set their information down on paper, and give much more .satiJactory iuformstion than could be got from the Arend proceedings of a Commission. Dr. LVSIIINGTON could not torte his assent to 'Noe motion. Mr. Owen might, by possessing power 41freiitti the individuals of his establishment, pro 's/nee touch good from his systeM ;. the case was otherwise if the jilan were to be generally applied •to the condition of the poor. He admitted the • exeelleoce of many of Mr. Owen's arrangements; but-then their value and usefulness were to be best propagated by the press and the working of public opiaion He thought that the subject was be smith thcdignity of Parliament. Mr. W. Salmi rose, but gave way . 10- Mr. CANNING. He had conceived the highest respect for the feeling*, talents, and zeal of Mr. Owen. The subject had been pressed upon him by Mr. Owen, and after the most impartial east:M onition of it he wished publicly to say why he must oppose the motion of the Hon. Member. The nisin wire of the oystem was the throwing down of those distinctions and- relations iu society, the de struct:on of which was repugnant to mankind, and especially to the feelings and welfare of this Bat his chief objection was to forming the first precedent in the history of mankind of undertaking to adopt the recommendations of a legislator who professed no religion. Whoever felt his mind so circumstanced ought, at least in a country where's religion existed, to keep his opinions to himself. He thought that• as information was the only object now *ought, it might be obtained much more cony. ' Hr-reminded the HON. Mover of the trouble elk+ the appointment of a Commission wouhi throw on the Executive Government of the country.- He recommended the advocates of the motion to undertake the inquiry themselves, and d Vair the- -pleasing duty of 'bringing 'brawnd the propositions to be founded on: titeltdDriantieti which thoy sotgid ecqeirr. He Wess-Itypity id I opftod.%4 the lutt , ten tv find that •he ,, iviiiAtet• Own .any tiring which errultlVierttilrlihtliitdeti4Vtf M r. W. Suitt" Oa "polled IlairriAtogr fat inquiry, . ~ ,v I. blood of the cool w4e. .tie question . 4 .110.. -hillier the Muir 'Should adopt 'the plan, eat whether the House should inquire into itiV . feasibility. He contended that Mr. Owen's effin was not, as hid been insinuated, entirely devoid' irreligion. He supported the motion, without at all pledging hiMself to all the details of the plan. Mr. MAXWELL replied to - the 'objection. which. had been urged, but declined dividing the Howe. Lliotfouem • said Ola the Huu. Member had deClitiell his intention not 'to divide, it became the fess necesisry for him 'to state the reasoni for the vote he load intended to ire. He eon-irlered the motion was for an inquiry inio the 'Minute denial' of a successful practical experimeitt,• made by Mr. Owen at the manufactory over which he had so long; honourably to himself, presided. Au this could not . be brought within• the reacts of the Waste it sass necessary fir rime 'personage go to' New Lanetk to make the necessary inquiries, and in-that vier of the case it should here had his support. • He must rectify one great- melt•ke that had got abroad. It was said that-the eonnnunity at New Lanark lived without religion. He bad ; heard it complained of as havingetoo nisch, and certainly if it could be blamed fueeither, theoriser woe on the side of eaves. He •belieted this - opinion of the want of religion bad arisen fromefeirie' speculative ortinions which Me:Oseen hstlitbrideiseefly made on urine public occasion ; what they were he kner'neit; but certainly his estoblislimeht was catculuted • for; and 'lid give a religious education to there brought up there. The question was then pet, and negatived with out II dlllllllOl4 • . , SLAYE'TitiIeE: Mr. Wteeettroace then Seise 'and addreiterd'elit House, but was fora coosiderible period istotedlblo in the gallery from the 'linseed strangers deponent) and the low' tone of voice in •whieh he spoke. Wa undrrstood him to have gitien a 6.4 f out= hue ' of the measores which had been pursited its effecting. the abolition of the Slave Trade,.down to the period •'wheis by the Bill iidrodisced•by his Honourable and Learned (Mr.' Brougham).k at length was- gimped with' its.true charaetegr It was then natural that we should endeavour to leette rail on other nations tercarry into effect the priej ciplee to which we had agreed. Juet . belief* the conclusion of the ear, we had become the only writes of the commerce of the :world,' and thee just for a short perisd Africa enjoyed a comfiest of those evils which she had endured for tnieeene thrice; and it was theta found that the ; Afneatit were not that degraded set of being* 'ditch they had beets represented, but that they' were capable of every improvement, and when their properties were secured would attach thermal*, to the pursuits of indosery,• •and foremlebie peaceful and happy communities. • Svelte rtlb the state of when • Image wee by this country, sad his • Noble .Friendefeb Marquis of . Londenclerryy•then eadeivoiered Wl* the principle of the abolition recognised by alb ether Polices of Europe. When•the ',abject • brought forivaed;. it 'Was gratifying teefitid that all the great Power! of Eineme usatetAti one come mon sentiment of retirobation of. the African) Slave Trade. The utmost - Viet was. asked. as for some future period to be stained for a termination, so tie! existing interests might suffer as little ai possibfd. The longest period was claimed by Patugal, which even then'display ed. don tardiness end apathy which she had since were fully developed. Spain con sented to obolitali - the trade at an earlier period. This country boid 'the honourable distinction of grinning, with a liberal hand, sums „pf,money so compelltAlie those two Powers (Spain cud Portugal) fur certain ships which had been seised, to iudisce them to agree to the principles which we had adopted. He stated this to slier that the proceed ing had been temperate and gradual, and such as entitled us to the confidence of the rest of Europe. He came sow to inquire into what had been the terms of the Treaties which we had formed with those countries, previous to which he ought to have mentioned, with the highest appro bation, the labourend persevering ability with which the Noble Lord opposite had travailed in the claw. Notwithstanding the establishment. of the Mixed Commission for the purpose at treitig offences re lating to the Slave Trade, against the Treaties entered into with those Powers who formed part of that Commission, it was with extreme pain he stated that the Shave Trade was still carryiug ou to an immense extent, and under the flags of those Powers who were bound by Treaty to dis continue it, and carried ou too with a degree of barbarity—/Hear, hear, bear)—exhausting the pooribillty of adding any thing to human suf fering, and more than verifying all that had been said of the enormities of the traffic heretofore. He was sorry to find that one nation, who had been much obliged to us, yet did not display that salon and desire to concur with us in endeavouring to put an end to the traffic which might have been expected; but he yet hoped that country would awaken to some degree of zeal - , and at last join us in our endeavours to put an end to a trade which they might be assured never could be profit ably carried on, even ou commercial principles. Spain, at various periods rat her history, had displayed a great and high-minded character, and from her, notwithstanding some appearances to the contrary, he had hopes al a corded co-operation to put an end to the system. It should be remem bered that his Noble Friend (the Maiquis of Lon donderry), when he found it impossible to nish• Portugal fix a term for .sbolialsing this trade, had stated, that if she alone of the nations of Europe should continue to early on the trade,- it might be come necessary to adopt stronger measures than 'entreaties mud remonstraucts. The other Powers at once agreed to the reasotrableneas of that prop... wive, end. lit did think it became the House as* the country to endeavour to bring Portugal to ; gi clear underetsuchug on that poial.--E ?tear, he* hear,) — lt was gestapo/ l c to see dirt America hl4 (Wed 111 a very ditr.rci.t manner, .a..cf though fretu and . J ngly. __ gratifying . „rye this unity of sentiment between America and Ssrselves.—(Hear, hear.)—lf this were the feel. ing as to that country, how could he speak' of ans'r• other nation, of great and chivalrous character (lie. meant France), who had disappointed our own expectations, having carried on the trade to a greater extent, and trifled with us more than any other country. He should have hoped that as the was now first enjoying the blessings of a free constitution, she would hive shewn some respect for the rights and liberties of mankind ; he had hoped that, as the King of France had written a letter to the Prince Regent on this sub ject with his own hand, they would have taken care to chew that they would take that course whet justice and honour so loudly called for. • When this country, which had been called a nation of merchants and traders, gave op the traffic.-when all the other nations of Europe agreed that it was a polluted trade, which could not be touch ed without pollution, he could not have imagined that the generous and high-minded Frenchman would have taken it up: but he was persuaded they were ignorant of the real nature of this horrible commerce, or they would never thus cling to it.' The atrocities and - cruelties of their own revolution sunk in comparison with the gigantic horrors of this trade into mere trifles. Sir ts'eprge Collier had spoken of the barbaritiesi which he had himself witnessed in terms which must shock every man. He had mentioned detaining• a' 'French vessel; on boarding her he' saw• no shl'elii - on board, but he heard a finut round which Came . from a cask, and on opening it be found two poor human beings nearly expiring front suffocation ; sod the sailors remembered that dur. ing the chase they had perceived a number of cadge floating, and as it was known that a number of slaves had been brought oil board which were not found, there could be no doubt at all that the poor creatures had been committed to the waves.--. , (Hear, hear, hear.)—But this was mercy with the lingering' tortures which • others were fated to endure. The Hoe,. Member, then stated the case of the Rodeos; a Freacb vessel, in which the whole el the slaves were seized with blindness, which ulti mately- communicated to the crew, and only one roan on board 'escaped the malady. These facts were published at Paris, and occasioned no sensate ;ion whatever; no inquiry whatever war made ex cept by the medical men,. who considered it a sin' Odor case of ophthalmia. It was disgraceful to the country that these facts came out not in a Court of Justice, as they ought to here done, but ire , a book elucidating a principle of surgery. This grand difficulty which lay in the way, the only thing which obstructed the wishes orthose who desired to see the trade completely abolished, was the .objectioes made to the right of searching each wheels vessels. That appeared to him to be theonly mode that would be effective, 'and 'he hopedthat France, if she reallyintended to abolish the trefic, would be induced to give up her objec tions, as she night do so.without any imputation of ineannesa, or appearing to condescend through weakness. As we asked nothing for our cruisers which we were not willing to concede to theirs, and as we had always maintained with jealousy the dig nity of our flag. there could be no dishonour in iheir allowing that which we were ready to allow. Another; plan hod been' suggested, which was that ,df having an officer of each nation on board the cruisers employed on the service of preventing the Skye Trade, whose duty it should be, whenever a vowelless chased, to decide whether it was a case in which a search should be enforced. That was a plan, the practicability of which might 'Perhaps admit of some doubt. But there was another course, to the adoption of which he did hope all Nations might be brought to agree—he meant, to ' concede a mutual amid general right of search. That would be a great step in the approach to the conduct of Auieriza, who had declared soy of her citizens detected in the odious and abominable traffic to be punishable with death as for piracy. He hoped the day would soon arrive when all nations would agree to make it piracy, and when all would treat a slave trader as a common enemy of mankind. America had de monstrated in every possible way her sincerity in her desire to put on end to the system. The Honourable Member then proceeded at some length to observe upon a Report which lay on the table from the Commissioners at Sierra - - - Leone, relative to the state or the trade in 1820, which represented it as almost extinct, while by the Report of Sit George Collier it appeared that tie hail seen st fiavannah 40 soil of vessels under French and other colours Ettiug oat fur the trade, which must the greater part of • them have been • upon the coast at the time when the Report of the Commissioners was , -drawn up. It became llns• country to use the most strenuous efforts, and even to make great suerificen in order to effect the total suppression of the monstrous It was the more incumbent on us when we recol-. !coed that we hod fur two tenruriea . cario it on, and that we were among 111194** to embark in Non. The on. Member p onOiineed 'ett anigapted eulogy on' Mr. Pitt for his sincerity, and net iu the cause of the abolition, and proceeded t o dtserihe the beneficial effects producrd . by the abitlition, as displayed in tie alterertand improved condition'of the natives, which followed upon that event in Sene-, gal and the oilier French' settlements then in our possession, but since ceded,to France, and contrast ed therewith a view of the change which that cession had wrought for the worse by the revival of the hor rible trade in those parts. He hoped the lilac was not for off when they would have better reason to congratulate the Nob'e Lord on the successful re sults of his exertions iu the cause of the abolition —(liear, hear)—which he had advocated with a zeal sod ability which did him honour—(Cheers)--- and the success of which had only been defeated by a mistaken sense of gain. Mistaken it certainly Was, for the great °retainer of events never permitted national greatness to be founded on national guilt ; on the contrary, he was convinced that national prosperity could only be secured by following the scribed by the prioceplet of justice end The Hon. ilmobor thmi apologised to noise for having tes loner trespusqed on their ',Motive, and concluded by moving a locg timler for an Address to his Majesty, praying him to use his influence with the other nations of Europe ..tia.imilesse- them to co.operate with. this country. as, strenuous exertions to put an end to the Slave 'Trade.—in this resolution were embodied all the . leading topics of the Hon. Member's speech. Mr. BROUGHAM seconded the motion. The Marquis of Loanoecteaae said that he, in common with the House, always listened with the greatest pleasure to any speech which fell from his Hon. Friend, and he could assure his lion. Friend that he had heard him that night with the greater satisfaction, from observing that while Ito,. endeavoured to arouse the seal of that House and of other countries to a vigorous exertion for the abolition of the trade, he did not forget that we ourselves had ti.o long set them an ill example by our perseverance in carrying it on. With respect to the Address moved by the Honourable Member, he could not but feel that ifivelivete to . look upon this ar a political question , it containe d, many observations which he could Dot. .bicoffi e vial capacity, consent to introduce in any diplomats., tic document without exercising a discretion Of revising and modifying them, so as to prevent any_ unpleasant impression which they might, if so used • be calculated to produce. in tielding, howeveg i i in his individual character to the proposal of la Hon. Friend, he hoped he should not incur ante blame, because he thought that this was a qnestiou On which it was proper that those tininess with, whom we had to deal on the subject should know, the true slate of the feeling of this country. We ought not, however, in our. progress towerds the object .we had in view, to disguise to ourselves' the obstacles we might have to encounter, and the difficulties which were to be overcome, for the best way to be prepared for meeting them was by fully discussing them. I-Ie concurred with his Hon. Friend iu thinking that the Report of the Commissionersat Sierra Leone was in some measure founded in delurion ; but lie thought, notwithstanding, that the good effects of our exer tions were apparent in the reduction of the traffic, even to a much greater extent than could have been expected, particularly when it -wee considered that all systems of this nature were feeble in their commencement. He went alorig With his Honourable Friend in his reasoning on tlii propriety of recognising the trade as a common grime against human nature; but unless other na tions could be induced to consent to concur in a common search of all vessels engaged in the traffic; It would he found impossible to prevent any yew!, So engaged from sheltering itself under the flag o *hat nation refusing the right of search, of which no cruiser might happen to be present. He went along with his Hon. Friend in general principles, and he agreed with him in the general observation, that . nations were in general liberal in proportion to the freedom of their respective governments; yet he must say that he had not found that free govern. ments were always the easiest to treat with on thil subject. He did not mean to question that Aimee rica eat sincere as far as her endeavours went in her desire to put down the trade, but his Holt : Friend was mistaken if he supposed that she would seedily lend herself to the system. She had de tained it piracy, but only so far as regarded her awn mode of treating such of her subjects as might be detected by her own cruisers in pursuing The American Government also was that which of all others would be found the most opposed to granting.' common right of search. His Hon. Friend therefore must not suppose that he would meet with hut little resistance, nor that such resist. mice would proceed from despotic governments only. The Noble Lord then proceeded at much length to slier', that with France and Spain, which were both under constitutional governments, tench difficulty must be found in negociatiug fora zealous co-operation in effectually abolishing the trade, ow ing to the public mind in those countries not being sufficiently prepared for the adoption of principles fouuded in the finer feeling, of right and jai& tire. An attempt to get a law passed by the Codes in Spain for affixing a corporal punishment 'to the offence had failed from that cause alone. In France equal difficulty would be found. With respect to Portugal, he lamented to say that she was an inglorious exception to the rest of Eu rope. The only approach to a negociation on the subject on her part was at the Congress'of Vienna, when the proposal was accompanied with condi tions for commercial advantages, which he felt himself obliged at once to reject, as exceeding all reasonable demand. Since then a projet of a com mercial treaty, offering considetable advantage to the trade of Portugal and Brazil, had been negociated with Count Almeida in this country, and sent to Brazil for ratification, with the expel., notification that it would only be carried into effect on the condition of some advance, being wade by • Portugal towards the total eittiticnon of the traffic in dare!. That Treaty arrived at Rio Jaiieiro eight mouths ago, but found the Goverumeut there in.& ewe of agitation which prevented its being im- Awediately attended to. The Noble Lord then - proceeded to argue upon the difficulties presented in that quarter by the nature and extent of the territory—vindicating the Government from the blame of the perseverance in the trade, and .ascribing it to the influence of the colonial interests. He enlarged also on the difficulty he always found iu negociating en this subject, to convince other Governments that this country had not some to twitted view et the bottom of her endeavours. Sir J. Alscattyrosu rose to make some °beer- Tatiana on the present occasion, because the only use of the discussion of questions of this n a t u r e Was tiiih — olithe opinion which the House ebter taMed on the subject, which could only be done by Members rising and delivesing their sentiments. He fully concurred in the view of his Hon. Friend the Member for Bramber, and gave full credit to the Government fur sincerity in their exertions for the suppression of that system of enormities which still assume the name laud guise of trade. He was. however at issue with the Noble Lord in the estimate he had formed of the difference in the disposition of free mid despotic governinstits to treat fully on the subject. He would lay out of consideration the acquiescence of We Monarchs io the north of Europe, for thee had no colonial interests to sway them from . the adoption of the hroad aid geieral principle 4r justice. Spain also he would lay out of the quei tion, the public mind not being vet in a state to view the question in its proper light. The Noble Lord had pleaded in extenuation of the conduct of the Governm-nt of Portugal, the interest of i:s ex teosive colonial possessions. What had he to say tc, the countries' in South America, formerly under the Spanish Government? They were now under po pular gatemen b, which liskilkaombined to abolishing shivery. He found that. North America and the tumultuous governments of the I odeptudoo/ States of South America had overcome, in tlyi respect, local interest. as strong as any v•.ict. could he felt in Wax 1. The Govern/mat of Portugal, he 'maintained, had not a ahorlow Atop case. It had been undisturbed for five years otolasseei and during that time bad made no attempt imorterfe the abolition. By the Treaty which was concliodtri t. in the year 1810, the Government of l'urfsigtl had sealed ha own infamy and disgrace ; it had proclaimed its.Tlf on °slam from civilized nations' He next felt himself under the neemisity of calling:: or rather re-calling the attention of the Hoarse /sr the conduct perstreil by the Gore'rritient of France. It was strange to atite thriliniong4 the French , 'statutes there ?as ap : law or euactmeot against this (crime. He eallecl it crimp, it was a comings/ion of imitates & an initented • deciduoue of crimes..—( Loud lehecrs.)—lndred in the Chamber of Depatlea ion Hormaeohle Om. ienlightened Friend of his (Monsieur Fayette), on of the iudividnala whom j the Noble PfaiTsitmlind denounced, hail boldly !declared himself is favour of the abolition. if 'any . man considered all the ramifications of g uilt 'and misery—all the murders that insist be com. muted in the bloody progress of obtaining 0,000 — and if we turned our eves from the sufferers to the agents, and considered the numbers of men it M itred to blood, divested of every thing human but the power of sloingmbelsief, human nature must revolt at this 1111$1 of moral depravity—( Hear, lteur)—ond he sincerely wished he could sal quit the French Government of all charge of connivance. He knew, if all the frets were made known to the people of that enlightened and highly lettered country, one universal cry of indignation' would be r..ised, demanding a renunciatiou of that hypocritical atrocity that brought such disgrace upon the French eusiinii". Li coutrusi with the Go vernmeot of Portugal he might adduce the Moho metan Government, for even the uncivilised tribes of Madagascar bad declared for the abolition. Some persona were of opinion that the degree to which this traffic had been carried afforded little hope of success!. This argument was alike used by the ingenious opposer of Ills mei tare, and the benevolent but impatient advo cate. But he was oldenough to remember the time when the advocate, of the abolition were stigma tised as Jacobins, but now the opponents to it were considered as dead to the calls of homassity . and • when he considered the rapid progress which even in that space of time bid bee n snlidt,' hi felt cheered whh the hope that, by unwearied exertions and the diffilaioss of knowledge, this odious system would be banished from the earth, and leave no feeling lout abhorrence.—[The Host, and Learned Gentleman sat down amidst loud cheers from all sides of the House.] Lord MILTON was of opinion, that before we could look to any steudy co-operation on the pert' of France its this great cause, we must see religion completely re-e , tablished ; for it was not religious bigotry, or a strict adherence to forms, that was most fasourable to promoting the cause of liamanity. Dr. LtISHINQTON roie to support the statement of his Hon. and Learned Friend, that no feeling of humanity appeared on the part of the Government of Portugal. He could produce evidence which had been receiver) in . Courts of Justice to .Lew that torture hbd been resorted to in a' mutter shocking to humanity. One instance in particular he should mention: A vessel from the coast of Africa hid come in'o the Cape of Good Hope, and tlAue tome of these unfortunate slaves bed been confined in a place two feet nine iiichts high, without any proti (lion made for the common necessities of nature. In the course of 17 days there had been u large mortality amongst them, and no extenuation what ever had been of : they contended they had a right to carry on their trade as they pleased Mr. BERNAL stated, that • million of money was paid to Portugal to abolish the Slase Trade north of the Line, and he quoted various taste:ices to prove the villainous infraction of the Tteaty. •• Mr. NjARRYATT read some extracts from Dr. Buchanett's Travels, to show that the statements of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Sir J. Mact:iii sash), respr:ting the West Indies, weir incorrect. There were two great authorities opposed to each other, and when the House considered the imper fect opportunities the Hon. and Learned Gentle man had had to become acquainted with theliabits mid customs of the people, they should be able to determine to which the meet•wright was to f.e at tached. Mr. MONET said, that with all due respect for the authority of Dr. Buchanan, he must confirm the statements or his Hon. and Learned Friend respecting the abolition of the Shiite Trade iu the West Indies. Mr. 11. GURNEY wished io know whether Cie proposition before the If „ouse gave any of interference with foreign States. Mr. BaOUGHAM said, th:it having seconded t.io Address of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Witiverfisee,), must say, that if in the four corners or that A nt‘ any thing were contained pledging the !baize hostile interference with the Governments of me,. countries, he should never have supported it. Hon. and Learned Gentleman then made a few oh. servatioar upon the right of reciprocal search, atel took the opportunity of remarking that he regretted America had tiot completed the good work she hail begin.; but at the same time much credit web dne to her for the alacrity with which she seized upra the first o f iportuisity that presented for effectite: the abolition, and for the still greater merit in esta blishing the practice as a crime., and calling it by its proper name—piracy. Mr. W. SMITH supported the motion. Mr. WiLaaasoaca replied. Sir B. FERGUSON said, that the Slave Trade 's eamed on at Bahia, where he had been twice, to such an :amount, that he found that there were 20,000 souls brought to market, 12,000 of which were generolly.purelsated for Spnni.h traders; the •••• • • • • on each topics, fur which reason he supported the • though bil would Not support the adop ' . iiir; i: the different commercial interest of her several trint . Owen's AM .. '. - •. ' ... I'7_./.!•! States, it was a dif fi cult-matter for her Opera' Le- The Marquis of LONDONDERRY thought that Sir I.lP:tonit' drawled the' a4opti . W. - gislature to 'women a strourtspinitin, yet she had . there were great d o ubt s wh e , her Parliament ought Owens .' dem*,he dirt all projems'rk4iired from .done it, and amsed oo that traffic of infamy its in accede to th e motion. Of course such praise- nortliiirt; ittrtlntriniv. Partite'? a . Seritchtetto was a true denomination—piracy.—(Hear, hear, hear.)— oorthy and liberal propnaitions were calculated to rara avis in term in the *wets of London ; now In fact America was willing to proceed farther than t'at►tiaatrtheis o f p,,,h e a t eot ; h a t he apre .. every street antialley bad a teacher and a preachec ourselves, and rui o n f g it a , li an di d 4c en al ac ti ti e d ss laslews doeo: hearetr ittititif not be safe for Parliament to from am on g that people, insomuch, that the . Saxim ,clared her abh .....1.......5...... •5....i.......1.....;kinr. of deivrtni nine. tiu. blood of the country was in danger of being et: . iordingly. It oat gnitifvlnk to him to ob- 11 - a • . • • ~