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_ . .isoned life.? mail *as this new Otero less revolting and dougerous to those interests'? &asperse had • greet object ni view, to .thieve which he mode arse upon all the thrones of Europe— hut pres en t system was the disgrace, as it would, if,oaccetsful, • prove to be the scourge of Europe. What were the terms of the alliance en tered into by the Noble Lord at the Congress of Viers.. and by the Treal of Paris? Did they oat prolved upon the overthrow of all the prin ciples which bad been cited as the lessons for continuing the war ? Since the battle of Waterloo the catiduct of Englaud had breu in direct viola tion of the principles of free policy. The system of Vienna and of Paris was a elms of spoliation. Englanti plundered parts of Germany ; Prussia was deprived of bet territory to enlarge Hanover, tisrld atm to flud an equivalent in the plunder anei •tboultution of Saxony. The Government, of Es-1 -Wipe had proceeded upon those very principles ko •phit . "down *loch the people of Europe had beea l l lessiiinx their blood mid treasure for 25 years be ,Tete the tUnclusion of the war. There was no ex ✓ote 'fise •this---tio impulse of violence flout an •rtreiny• to drive it on ; it would be a blot in Eug. •lish history. But had they been as successful in their adherence to those principles on which they prafes-ed to continue the war, as they had been shainele•s in their violation of them, still it was horribly disgraceful to continue to hostility with ibis one man, "rhino they had no right to detain, •either by the principles of the Commotion os the -Laws of any free State. EAST INDIA COMPANY. • Mr. Math next rose to move for accounts elk debts doe by the Government to the East ludas 'Company. The Hon. Gentleman stated the gruwth • .4? tiir delft, - which was in 1815 shout 1,300,004 •traile year 1820, when he had good reason to bu s . Here it amounted to 2,500,000/. He wished to -Dare ti sistement laid hrfore the Haute of the amount incurred in each year, and for what put poses the itiouey hod been expended. There was an old Whore which was disputed, relating to sums expended in the expedition to Egypt. He wise? opinion that it' should be settled. and that she act-emits' should be more frequently balanced than they had hitherto been. He concluded by mein for acccients of the debts due to the Eaot Judie CuroPany on the Ist May; 1820, distils gnishing the old and the new debt, the amount •contracted iii each year, and for whet services the gooney had been expended. The CHANCELLOR of the Excnxisuta said a few words iii reference to the acclimate, to the pree daction of which he bad no objecOas4e-Ordered.e .ROMAN CATHOLIC DISABILITIES' BILL. • 4.1 Sir Joan Nawroar moved the Order of the Day for receitirog she Repast. •,: ,•! Mr. H. SNITS broiled up the Report. The Brannan put the question, that this Elia • post be now read. • Sir T. Lrruaatoua would not oppose the brisk. ins up of the Report, but he trusted to another opportunity of combating the measure. The HOW, MUIR be malicious that the Bills were likely to prove a cause of great uneasiness to the Catho. lice of Ireland, and especially to the Catholic 4:19 , 10. He understood meetings were to be called to oppose the Bills. If that were the case, one of list chief grounds for carrying the Bills had failed. •The Catholics, se they were told, looked on the -second Bill es highly penal and degrading to the .clergy. He compleined of the precipitancy with which the Bills had been pressed forward. and the want of determination with which they had been opposed. He apologised for some expressions which bad Mies from him on a former night, by which he had given stone uneasiness to a Noble Lord op pestle, •than which nothing could have been farther bow his wishes or intentions. Lord NUGENT said, that leis mind had been .mach pained on hearing of those expressions of the Mem Baronet, and therefore nothing could be more agreeable to his &thugs than the prompt and . -donne manner in which the Hoti. Baronet had himself. He assured the Hon. Baronet I's" • ' .itsintitemostance should be buried in oblivion. explett.•.- I.!!! ....gtonalr said, that the Hon. Baronet that the (a, -eve been present last night, or he Mr s Anna, •• - •wioard, by the speeches of a could scarcely I. `labors, that these Bills were must have been co. .'weptable to the Catholics eucceseios of Irish Me • • 'teed, measures cslcu is the s highest degree at., of I d eel nd. Thu yetis ilk aluses ei e t ,ird coned*. .811 bat thow. y depended ma the agitations o provoke, and who would b) .s be reduced to their former insignific:. • li. B. MARTIN said, I ters s whose distinction - these Ines 'ace. 'd let- List he ha d re t :e y iv, were esnhe from Ireland which announced to him . great delight and satisfaction the Bills gave to the Catholic laity. As a proof of the feelings of the ' Catholics, Counsellor O'Connell half endeavoured 1 In get a Requi.ition signed fur calling a meeting of the Catholics to petition against the Bills, and in the whole city of Dublin he could only procure nine signatures to assist in this expresson of dm cusitent. One reason there was, perhaps, stronger than till other to induce Mr. O'Connell to oppose the Bills. He well knew that if Government offices were to rain down es thick as hail ou the Ca tholics. not one would rest upon his shoulders. There Bills would carry entaucipstios to others, to which he alluded last night. He dial not know precisely their opinions on the subject, not louring hod auv communication on the matter. He knew that sentiments of disapprobation would be express ed ; there was not yet sufficient time, fur althoogli the question is now so long before the flosise, yet it so happened that from the manner ill which it has gone they hate not been able to get the necessary infor mation in Ireland. elle knew himself one Catholic Clergymen, as loyal, as intelligent, and as respect. able as any member of his profession, who was decidedly hostile to the present Bill; and lie thought his lion. and Learned Friend might have abstained from making the getters' unqualified statement he did, until the House were in pos. searsion of their opinious. There was tint a Catho lic in the land who lunged more ardently for their emancipation than lie did. Ile should feel himself honoured, he should consider his seat in that House ten times its value, if they were admitte-1, end it was on'that account shut he felt more acutely, the observetioti that they were dis loyal. and ill 7 disootsed fur disapproving of the Bill. If hr were informed correctly, the Catholics in England, as well as in Ireland, were averse to the measure; he, therefore, appealed to the Noble Lord, and the eislightened wisdom of the Parliament, to make such alterations es to resider the measure acceptable to the whole body of the Catholic..' This was the only possible mode to effect the great object of conciliation, which every tree friend to the inerseure must be anxious to pro mote; for he never could be induced to vote fur these restrictions, and he should feel himself 'bound on the third reading to vote egaint these penal enact. melds. He ass sure, at least he hoped, that the term factions, or disloyal, could lacier be meant to be directed to the Catholic Pricathood ; that most virtuous and respectable body .of men, without whose usistauce the tranquillity mid peace of 1;e• land, or a connexion between the Government and the people, could never be preserved. Ile was sorry lie dial not see his Hon. Friend the Member for Galway (Mr. Martin) in his place, who had, he hoped uninteutitouslly, let himself fall into an indiscretion. He regretted that Gentlemen some times availed themselves of plivileors it would, in hisopiisiou, he much better to avoid, in mentioning the names of intliv.duels who are absent, ani COMM sequently have DO opportunity of defending them selves. But the name of Mr. O'Connell havitig• been mentioned, he would say that he lied no cor respondence with, nor was he acquainted with the oPinions of Mr. O'Connell, further than appeared iii those papers he addressed to . the Catholics of Ireland. But lie had the honour, and he wee proud of it, to reckon Mr. O'Connell amongst hie .pueste friend's ; mud no matter what some my think of his public principles, Lis private character; at least, must atat,d unblemished. In all the rel.'s. tious of private tale, as • husband, a father, or a friend, he was mcst couspicuous ; end lie believed, no matter what some may think, that there dial nut exist a more honest-hearted Irishman, or a man more sincere in his public professions; and lie should rejoice to see the dry when that House would have the benefit of the transcendent genius of his highly-talented friend, Mr. 0!Coonell. lie should be ashamed of himself, if he did not rise and bear his testimony to the character of Mr. O'Cou ssell in his absence.—(Heor, hear.) Mr. ABBRCROMBY explained. He should be extremely sorry that any thing he should say should be viewed in the insemerit had been by his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hutchinson), whom he had known so long and valued so highly. lie assured him that he made no allusions to particUlar individuals, but in speaking of five millions of people in a state or exclusion, he said it was impossible there would Hot be some misguided and some interested p e r. sons in all times and in all countlies.—(Hear ) Sir T. LETHBRIDGE observed, in reply to what had lidless from an Hon. Member (Mr. Abercrous by), that he was in the House on lest night when the statements were snide respecting the opinion* of the Catholics of Ireland. Mr. GIPPS made some observations respecting the education of Protestant children, which we could not distinctly hear in the gallery. Mr. WYNN observed, that if the Honourable 11.-Of riiity, Gentleman would look to the Act of II if he would there find, that no •person could take a port in the education of Protestant children with out signing au adherence to the Protestant religion. Mr. Girt., replied, that according to the3lst of George 111. Catholics were allowed to endow themselves. He would wish to know whether that would undergo any alteration ? No answer was given. Mr. CHOICER wished to cell the attention of the House to the oath of supremacy, a question to "hick he solicited their attention three }eons ago. conceived it was • great hardship to.tnake the lie swear flirt " the pope had no authority • PrOttb . within these realms," although the Ca whatever . • that he has some spii noel authority. shut'e admits stated lay the Hight *clour- If, as had bee.. l Gentleman (Mr. Plunkett), able sod Learnt. , obstrumal difference between there was no real or a '4 one be explained fur the the two oath*, why Oulu. 6, be entangled in the Catholic, and the Protosteu. wooed. Use old oath? According to this Bt. fun eug„i„.l. spiritual authority of the Pope is . •er " that the these P, Mr. Pcift admitted the statement of the Hon. Gentkraal,. The Protestant denies any co•active nuthotity ; but the Catholic denies the same, and why not make the oaths the same Lord CASTIMIKAGN observed, that he knew a Catholic who took the Loth, with the consent of clergyman, in the manlier in which it was under stood. And with respect to the Protestant, lie did not apprehend there was eny explanation neces sary after sqo years practice.--( Hear, hear.)-- There was nothing in the Bill that went to alter in any manner the essence and nature of the power of the Pope. His reason for objecting to the propo sition ROO, that it would give greater alarm to alter the oath fur the Protestant, than if an explanation were given of the oath of the Catholic. It might become a great objection agatn►t the nieatmre, a n d obstruct its progress in another pluce.—(Bear.) Mr. Caoau thought it wee quite impua•ihle the Protestant could now take the oath as regu lated, now that the authority of the Pope is le galired. Or. PHILLIGORB entered into an explanation of the oath. Mr. CANNING observed that as the question was to come fairly before the House, this prehmn►aty discussion was quite idle cud unnecessary.— Every speech raised some doubt, which could not at present lead to any conclusion.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. Caoaa■ explai►ed. Mr. GOULBURN said, that probably it would come before the House at so late at► hour the next night, they might out be prepared to go into the discussion. The lion. C. 11UTCHINSON observed, that he understood instructions had been given by the Pope to the Bishops, that in their correspondence they should ebatat►r foam , all temporal and poli tical reflections. Sir JOHN NNWPORT moved several new clauses to the Bill : one to prevent Catholics front sitting in parish vestries, or to vote in the disposing of the property of the church; another to empower the Commission to dispense with the ecclesiastical branch, in case of absence, when regularly sum moned—and in case of his declining to attend, to empower the Commission to summon any umber discharging the ecclesiastical functions. PROVISION FOR THE CATHOLIC CLERGY. Mr. CaolitEß 'oar, in pursuance of • previous notice be had given, to more a clause to empower hie Majesty to make provision fur the Catholic Clergy. He felt firmly persuaded that there was no relation of the Bill of more importance, and his confidence was increased from the (tvouratdo seam nrr in which the proposition was received when lie first mentioned it. in or out of doors he had beard no objections to the principle; but some objections. in point of time, limye been made by the Right Honourable and Learned Gen tleman who introduced the MeliPUlr, and some are entertained by others as to expediency. He completely differed front both. He was convinced , this was not only the best time, but the only time, iu which it could be provided. As they were all agreed upon the principle, he should not detain the House arguing that point, but would endeavuur to persuade them that this time was the best that could be selected. The first objection of the Honour able and Learned Gentlemen was, that it should he left to the Government to make the provision. He should be glad to know what Government ? Would the Parliament surrender so great and im portant a proposition to the Government? He ad mitted the time would emmme when the Govern. meat, and none was store fit, might regulate the means of carrying the proposition into effect. But the policy of the measure should be regulated by the Pailiament, fur it would be most uneonstitu tumid, almost impeachable in the Government, to take such an important question to their own de cision. And he would ask the House what would be the state of Ireland if the Government held out those hopes, and after the Bishops had consented to it, that their expectations should be blasted? The first step then to be taken was to obtain the sanc tion of Parliament to the principle of the Bill. He could assure the House he was nut such a vain Quixote as to propose a measure to the House without knowing whether it could he carried into etfict. lie lied well considered the subject, and lied even gone so far as to crolpaly it in a Bill, for he thought it due to the (louse flirt to assure him self that the measure he proposed could lie carried into execution. The next object to the propo sition was, that it might endanger the other Bill. He could not conceive how ibis could be ce.e, an d he thought this objection came with rather an ill grace from those Gentlemen who say they would not attend to the clamours of Dr. Milner, that they would nut wait fur the Ecclesiastical Parliament else where to pronounce their decisions, that they would take their station, as all sound statesmen should do, on the vantage ground of the Constitution, and Iron' that proud eininenre survey the course they had to pursue, and not be deterred by the clamours of igitoram or interested individuals.— /Hear, hear, hear.) —They had been told by the Right Hon. Gentleman who introduced the measure in that memorable speech, every word of which, he hoped, would be engraver ou their hearts, that this was to be a measure of final conciliation, to put an end to all the tumults that have so long agitated Ireland ; and now you leave out the must important part of the whole subject, you omit Irwin the Bill the very Heine of those whose essistance is . - it, and arrived safely in harbour, are we to vesture it out to sea again ?—(Hear, well knew the delicate ground he w':s treading on, but the Howse should be reminded that almost all the blood that streamed from the Penal Code was from the body of the clergy ; ell the Acts that were established looked with a jealous eye on the clergy, not on the laity. They had heard, and nothing was more true, that without the co-opera tion of the clergy, it would he almost impossible to preserve the tranquillity of the country. Who ever supposed that the Duke of Norfolk or the illus trious House of Arundel' would, if admitted into Parliament, be dangerous to the Stale ? None certainly. All the bugbears that luxe been raised were against the clergy, tint a;rainst the lai.y. He remembered a learned civilian in that House (Dr. Duigenaii), who was one of the most determined foes to the inruaurr, say, that if the Catholics oh tailor() emancipation, the Clergy would rare their old cry about restoring their tithes !And their hierarchy ; and surely the best way to prevent such an occurrence, or even the poseibility of it, would he to provide them ■ suitable maintenance. Whatever provision is made, it should be libe ral, sufficiently an to support them respectably, but not so much so as to break off their dependance oar their flocks. Ilis object for the preamit war to get the House to recognise the priticeple, fur which reason lie should move— " Thai a Commission he appointed, under the superin tendence of the Lord Lieutenant, to cnemine the ecclesi astical arrangements in every district, in order to facilitate the carrying this measure into effect." Lord CASTLERICAGIt said, that if he rose to op pops the peopoeition of his lion. Friend, it wad nit from a want of respect for him, or of a contot on feeling with him on the subject. Nu mats was more anxious than he was fur the emancipation of the Catholic*, and he con.idered that great measure would be incomplete auttl the proposition now submitted to the House was carried Into effect. But the qu stion is—is this the proper moment ? —(Cries of Hear, hear, hear)—and was it wise now to go to tissue tin a point which would at the proper time meet the concurrence of Parliament ? 'rile House could not be called upon for a provi sion without a recommendation from the Crown. and even on Isis H. rabic Friend's own •hewing this could not be a tidal eaeosare, because, if now carried, it must come back again to Parliament.— He thought it would be much better that it should come ou hereafter as a matter of grace anti favour from the Crown; for he never could allow that the Roman Catholic Clergy had any claim of right to a provision. He thought, as it regarded the Ca tholic Clergy themselves, it could In better to leave the question in a state of siniroble repose ; the agitating it at this moment would seem to place them in an equivocal situation, as it would hear the character of a sort of bribe.—(Hear, hear, hear.) In j ostice to the character (Sara respectable body, he must state, that, when in 1806 he was authorised to offer a provi4ois for them, they did then in the most delicate and disintereacell milliner explain that they could not then mitt" it without subjecting their characters to the %station of being swayed by sordid motives. Nei 'apprehended that Parlia ment would not look at the general principle till they could look at the question of the scale of pro vision, 'sod he - thought it hardly fair to call upon the House to go into the matter without having fuller informalion than at present. He wished it to be understood that his objection was to the time, and slot to the principle of the measure. He con sidered that the object would be attained more speedily and safely by leaving it at rest for the present. Mr. C. HuTedttisow said he would now and at all times object to the measure, till there was* perfect understanding between the Government and the Catholic Clergy upon the stihject. He perfectly agreed with the Noble Lord that it would be inexpedient at present to adopt the measure, and would recommend it to his Honourably Friend (Mr. Croker) to withdraw it. Mr. CROKILIt had oo objection to withdraw the clause, on the understanding that the Noble Lord would at a futore time follow up the present mea sure by recommending the provision. Lord CASTIARSAGH b•gged to be understood as having only stated his own opinion. and not as having. at all pledged the Government. Mr. CIONER then withdrew the clause, and several amendineats were read and agreed to. Mr. GIPPS proposed to add to the clause which prohibits the Catholics from holding any office or place in any college or school of ecclesiastical foundation, the words, " or other endowineut." Mr. CROKE% objected that the clans.-, of so worded, would prevent the Catholic laity from endowing any echo .l. _ Sir J. - NgiwroaT said, the clause would inter fere with the . Cullege of Maynooth. After some further discuasion, in which Mr. C. Wynn, Mr. Gipps, Sir J. Newport, arid Alf. C. Ilutchinsou participated, the Amendment was re. jected without a division. The Bill and the Amendments were then ordered to be engrossed, printed, and read the third time on Monday nest. TIMBER DUTIES. On the motion of Mr. WALLAcx the (louse went into a Committee on the Timber Dutie Act.. Mr. WALLACE then rose and said, it became his duty. as Chairman of the Committer appointed by the House to consider of the torsos of improving and maintaining the foreign trade of the country, to propo•e certain resolution,. The Report it-elf contained the substance not mayor those retolutiona, hut all which it was tiecrsiary to submit to the House en the subject. The House were aware that pre vious to the year 1809 all timber was supplied us frotn the ; Here that period it had been supplied from our Colonies in North America, and such heavy duties imposed on the Baltic timber as had reduced the trade greatly, and must in no long period entirely put an end to it. The I lotioursble Member here referred to the Report, to shew the comparative state of the Timber trade us regarded the importations from North America and from the Baltic previous to 1806, and in the `• 1 .: ~, ~\ , t4otthern Countries, and would have great effect oa our commercial relations with them. For although the small quantity of iiiiibcr supplied by Ramo., and Prussia. not exceeding 100.0001. in !slue could not he of any importance to them, vet the exportation of British good. which it caused, might be considered as of ionic corpeq.ience to our menu faciurers. It would also be the first step fin.= ti old 'system to the more enlightened policy of ciliatinw the Foreign Pneerva by which skim our econnuercial prosperity could be ottrusaunitly established. The duty. he calcol.sord i was equal to a tax of a minima sterling ; soil the questsolt now wa s, whether that enurotolius duty should la• continued for the sole and exclusive benefit r ( individuals connected with the Colon ea, mot those employed in conveying good% (ruin them: Gentlemen were aware that these dutirs were im posed at a time when an apprehen•ion existed that we should he excluded fools those supplies whirl' we had before received (ruin the Baltic; a ahoy of 21. Is.-25 per cent. was alit•rwsrds added. bringing it up to 'he enormous amount of 31. per loud. The propositiou I e intruded to sub mit would not bench upon that portion of the duties which had been intended as a protection to the Colonies. Ou the subject ow it effected the revenue, he should mot have said a word, had it nut boon for a curious orpiment which he under stood was used, founded on the word " perpetual," as if Purliament were precluded from tottering ou the couvidenotion of the subject; but Gentle/sea knew that perpetual, ill parliamentary language, only meant that it was a duty wV,•:4 did riot expire at any given period: One t ffect of the dutit•s was causing a great excess of umber to be imported. In the last two years we had exceeded by 100,800 loads, the moonlit of the natural cons iiiii The mei-eh-sot who regula•ed Iris orders by the fair demand was driven out of the market, and the trade was carried on by the colonist, alio hail timber which he must dispo►r 4,1; aa•d the ship-owner who bad vessels fur which he could get e•. us her em ploy. The real question was, whether we should keep a greater quantity of slopping employed than we otherwise would. It wits, in fact, a .hippes t ; question, as would appear by the evidence of Mr. Bainbridge, detailed in the Report. ii was considered by some persons as sufficient argument against a measure to sly that it touched upon the .hipping tote rest ; he had the bigheet re apect for that respectable interest, as well as the ssecesoary protection for the Colonies ; but that protection might be raised so high, es to be exceed ingly injurious to other Interests of commerce.— He knew that a great commercial marine was neces sary for a maritime power ; but a commercial me rino., exceeding the nature) detnesol, was A burden Oft the country. Sailors - were not the only persons thrown out of employ, and the shipping interest nut the only tole which had suffered by the transition from tear to 'wiser. The House had re► cently before it a Petition fonts the artisans of Bir mingham. If a propoairiots had been made to make a quantity of muskets, not no, wonted, but in readiness fur smother war, by way of giving em ployment to those distressed artisa n s, it would, he imagined, not have been very well received by the House ; yet he could not see soy thing more extravagant in that proposition than ill keeping up a particular trade for the sole purpose of giving employment to shipping. He sew nothing in the state of Europe now to cull since him that this country would be likely to be called upon to make greater exertions than she had before done, and sufficient seamen hail ►l ways been found when war broke out. He could not but thick that what was . sufficient in the year 1792 could be so now, end at present the shipping greatly exceeded ; and of sailors we had 50,000 more than in that year which preceded the war, in which the greatest naval exertions were made by or. The ships carrying on this trade were of tbe very worst description; they were such us had lived their natural life, and whom rinfit fat any other purpose, they were put to that, as it was mid that ally thing which would swim would de for the timber trade. He bad heard it used as an argument against any measure tending to put these ships out of employ, that if they were, they could out get employed any where else. On inquey, it appeared this was die sort of slopping employed, and which was thus ;messing upon all the good shipping of the cuuutry. Ile believed that unless new channels of trade were open, the 'hipping interest could not recover itself by any thing but a reduc tion of the number of ships. 'I hat must take place whether any thing was done by this; House or not, as the trade was apes.ly a lousing one, and throw concerned would hardly go on with it to their total ruin. It might be said that be so, why should we hasten that consummation by a legislative measure ? He would ad oise a legislative measure, because lie was of odinion the advantage to •ndividusle from the continu ince of the system was only temporary. whilst the injury done to the country wes perma nent, and such as would lac outweigh the tri fling advantage revolting to individuals. It was not by forced and attiticial methods that eons me►ce was to be picnttied. but by natural ►teps ; one of uLe most efficient would be the removal of all ostrictions upon it. Every step of that sort would stove to cons wee foreign uations that they had on interest in our prosperity, and at the same time we should be promotiog every inte rest and every brooch of iiiilustoy in the country. It had been said, that if an increase took place in the Balttc trade, our ships would not partake of it. The great principle was to get our timber as rea dily and as cheaply as we could ; arid when it was said sonnet it that we should not employ so many Ships as ii• we had our timber Irons a dimaut quar ter. he did not think that was a very strong objet. tion. If the trade increased, lie believed we should come in fur our fair share of it. From the returns of the average number and tonnage of British and foreign altipping employed in the Baltic trade, in the years 1815, 1816, and 1817. the advantage seemed to be greatly in favour of the British *unplug. He therefore thought it might be fairly iiiferred, that whatever increase might take place in the trade of the northern ports. British proportion. Committee, 11ders comps ri. ips of this Zion of . flonapsete, as being more Congenial to the could never ' either en this or any otter question , relating to the oath, the cords "Boman Catholics ° diabolic a l p o li c y o f th e S overe i gns o f th e C ont i nen t suffer such observations to pus unnoticed. He should be omitted. thin constsond with the laws and customs oft hoped, if be stated any thing that was incorrect, The SrnAnna suggested that if the clause was * free Government. He admitted that one his Hon. And Loused Friend sirciaid set him right; such as would apply to the whole Bill, he should time the conduct of Bonaparte had been ty- but he understood him to say, that no peaceable, move for the recommittal of it. tannicst, but he did not believe that it was or !oink he ititelligeut Catholic, was ho.tile to the Mr. Canaan assented. on account of his tyranny that the hostility to melamine; that none bat those who would feel op' Mr. Pau. concurred in the point urged by his him was so pent and acrimonious. He argued pressed by any relief given to the Catholics, none in Hon. Friend. The oaths as they stand at present.. thus much from the conduct - ars quite contradictory. Yoe must mean Hof 41114sitertaiillted . rtrit - de~ - frith respect sure:Tritiiiikit Tor grouted his Hon. and Learned word "spiritual" in the same sense in both oaths, • to Naples, thaud6 they dared not openly to abet Friend was not in the House last ought when he yet you make the Protestant deny it, while the Ca- the of Amalfi*. da auoe rte L tvad knot be had had a communication from a tholic admit, it. It was in his opinion, desirable 11&r lea on wine t die ors • es pene Zaifin'lic Bishop of the very first,respectability, ex- that they should be both the attar. asort•Preasia, proArdil . tb'itnvettiOgr 'firnehL pressing his disapprobation ; and he had every res- Mr. WYNN said, the word "authority " did not at necessary for tbie "liberties of mankiiid that • the son to believe that the Catholic. clergy generally mean legitimate authority ; it merely meant lo- bar EMperor of frinee should . be iigiosisoned for disapproved of certain clauses, particularly those fluence in spiritual matters. 6 •-• • s_ I._ _ll_l I • • . s• • . • undies, not one %vomit rest upon ins ........---. _ 4 4 w spiritual authority of iii: Poor is . Nif , " that the Bill the very iistne of those whose assistatice is and from the Baltic previous to 1806, and in the place in the trade of the northern ports. Britis . , . These Bills would carry emsncipatioa to others, mainly, if out indisPensahly required to preserve year line. lii the latter year the proportion from ships would continue to have their fair praportior tli t e ho a s d e va o n f ta l g h e ie w lie would coml.. the Baltic bore no comparison with the former Much evidence hod been heard by the Committee te w n al f but they woold not remove the exclusions from him. How then h w cou ni ld uth a:y r. 1 foiestout SW. , k h,„ t h e „ ity whatsoever n • t b u id sh o ew tet e h e ic u h o t t h s e , f l o li r ) e o i li gn a e b e u m il pa de t i The Hon. C. HUTCHINSON • ill, he could not P 'tied in the pacification of the country . s kr of tier the postponin g this measure to number Session period. He admitted . but tliat r t e l a e t p p t r e o ,e te i c it tio ni n sit doge and hear the unquiet:tied terms that had re7tims?" The Hon. Gentleman crUf_t. one of the most ridiculous things. he had almost due to the Colonies, by 6 I 1 . . is . Liken made use of by his Hon and Learned Friend argue at some length the iiiutility end ausuro. 10 I :said one of the greatest blooders, that ever war cont • duties other great interests were sacrificed, without son of the coat to each of th e b u ildi o f s h i s tAti. Abererontby), without making some observe- the two . rotths, but at the suggestion ie of son.. 't tious on them. No matter what private esteem lof h is blends he changed the uniuon I had . 1 an• • dice t d' The motion thesis the clause ! the it..o ? "A wavPl o , ervju neitherwas it sound to le iii it reg a rded the the thi i i • this dashed. Noting -ci friendship he might entertain towards him 1 submitinto a clause to be added tu flu! 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