The Statesman. — London, England, 1813-03-10 00:00:00

1 • It Or that •Mr.:Pltt had such, udder .t he .difficulties subject presented ; reef of this, it was add&, that he 'Orel" bad et‘triniunicated bit plan. But it was certain, linte Mr. Pitt • went eat of offitio in 1801, not : beetle* hie plan was Wt.. practicable, but from other w,elilknOwn obstacles. — Teat distinguished seen thit very occasion, sent s letter to the Catholics Of Ireland, in which he ttiltl *inn, that " by Wing etith moderation, and' pursuing a loyal and datityl. ITi)e of conduit, they would afforcLickNtional gromss of argnment to the growing number of their adi O cates in this country, till their (keel was ultiamtell attained." Stich was the language of the letter which Mr. Pitt caused to be ttinunitted to Lord Fingall, Dr. Troy, and ethers. ilf;ukti'agaln, did the Marifilis 'Cornwallis say on that very occasion t He gave l his (omit opinion, an. : netted to the ' mime commiliticifilon, that the measure of ematiCiptitm was neceisio,l'for securing the con nection between Great firitititi ind Irelairl.—[llear, licer!]-Agaits, when the estion was brought for ward by Mr. Foe, in 180 3, there was nothing in the fairguege of Mr: Pitt ts . show that he considered the measure impractkable., Ile said, them was a bar to its agitation, thenature of which was ,uflici ently anderstOod,—but never (hit it was impractica ble. He even alluded to the gait, which he had en tertained, as.consisting of a variety Of regulations. Nine months after this period, Mr. Pitt died ; so that we. are` dew called'iNon to believe that what be cOntemplatcd as practicable; for six years, within, these nine short months he found out to be impracti cable. But what were the ditfiCulties under which the great mind of _Mr. Pitt was supposed to sink ? Why, they were"thedifficultheaof promoting merito. flow Catholic Officers on th% Staff of the Army ; df admitting soca men as tOrd Fingal! into the Mouse of Peers, and as'Sir P. Bellew into the House of Commons_! ,These were the mighty difficulties spider which his mind was supposed to have sunk, who hid the ability to destroy 70 Irish Boroughs.- . IHcar!i—.l here was a, di ffi culty started in the rish Parliament, at the time when it was proposed to grant the Catholics the, right of voting at elections, it was then said, that an inundati on of popery would sweep away 'every thing before it. But What were the effects of this restoration of Catholic rights?— Ireland had evidently gained by it; the elections were more free and independent; they were now founded not on snonepo4, but on property and re - spectability. In addition to Mr. Pitt, he begged leave to name Mr. Burke, Mr. Fox, and Mr. Wind ham, distinguished statesmen and philosophers, as atrenuous supporters of the Catholic •Claims. He *night also enumerate men of learning like the Bishop Of Liandalf, and the Bishop of Norwich, a name that would be ever respected.—illear n--It was also re markable, that the Lord-Lieuteliants of Ireland, for the la4t 70. years, were uniformly in favour of them. Lord FifswjW,m ;was decid •dly so ; Lord Camden, who 414 over to Ireland with opposite sentimenty rid tyke lived in that country at a most trying time, when could not avoid knowing the opinions of the Ca tholies, was ultimately for concession ; Lord Corn. :Rallis publicly declared it necessary to the connection between Britain mid 'lreland. This was the practi . cal conclusion formed by a statesman and a soldier, at a mast ethical period of Irish history. Lord flardwicke did not go over a friend to the measure ; bet after some years' residence as Lard Liiutenant, be altered his opinion, and now supperts it by his Rote. His Right . Hon. Friend, the late'Seeretary for (redid (Mr. W. Pole), had at ft rat opposed the Catholic Claims on account of the obstacles that ex isted in certain quarters to the granting of these Claims ; but when, by the removal of the restrictions on the Ji,e.„etit, such ohstaclea were dope away, and 'lie Right .. ,• - . ~. l • • ~ •'.l - -•:"*".••• e itabliihmentsof the churches of E . ngland, Scotland, . , y not; . ,____. ;or expressed such a !sentiment. The views however what these securities ought to be, or to 'elate to the and frellind." * d ictate In. which I have indulged are,,' trust, strict, definite, House in. that respect e . Hes. had submitted this eon. This being read by the chiirmin, . •9 The SPEAKER then rose, and addressed the , and guarded. They are, I believe, congenial to the sideration to their oWn discretion and judgment; atel Chair tsti'the following elfeett-e • .i . character of the people of the country, who, al. although he was himself prepared to state his opistiott 1 ' " .MII. CHAIRiANI—As I hate not y4i Snot with though slow and chutiousi are ready to listen to on the subject, he had expressly stated, that he wish ' ahvipportonity - Of expressing an op i n i on on the su b. every measure of improvement, ho serer, averse ed to hear the propositionsof others, and that he ject under discussion, and as the Itteleolition . moved to wholesale. projects and indefinite innovation. was ready to go a great Way to' mea the idea s ~,f by the 'eight Hen. Gentleman is Intewthel to serve . - 6 —l am far from. being an enemy to couces.. t , other meti, rather than allot s , the great Dria z : L a e as, 4 Otiis for future proceedings, I am - deslroul don, I . think there: are many things that may be which he advocated; that of Conciliation, to be rt' as well as in'diSposition will allow me, of stating my ; safely and wisely conceded. I would in pap; jested. After a declaration so explicit, he thou.ett . views of the question before you on this occastr.-1 titular give, and with - Si liberal hand, the , hp. that it could not fairly be objected to him, that h e I feel, 'indeed,. the greater desire of so donee be- ! nours and distinctions of the military profession.-- was'not disposed to 'glee to iucls securities as might cause, _when I enter my protest against the form of i All ranks in the army' should, in my judgment, - be. be sufficient for 'the prbtection of the estai-!i:,,a proceeding which has been adoPted, I am icon- ; laid open to merit and ambition without any re. ; Church. As to the third plan, whichVraN that of the Ndble 'Lord (Lord Ccstlereagh), he muse preens . Pelted, et the same time to. .protest animal the : fereisce to religious opinions. I would willingly P re... mensere . itself, which that proceeding is intanded i peal the words of the Act of 1793, which exclude that hp did not quite understand it :' he sitoill(1, timer of the isioh!e tir,w te carry into effect.—[Near, - hear !]--I wish, •I ke- I Catholics from becoming Generals of Sta ff . When ever, leave the farther esplatott Rift, as well as the .1-- - • - wise; to accompany' this avowal with a state ment I I except the' very highest military offices, I allude fence' oft? ; llt the fittest - hmrds, - of.those points wit!, respect to which it appea Ito I now to the situation of Commander in Chief in Eng. Lord himself. The !tight -Alone Wisher : (the Speaker) had objected to centetiairany titii er wee my judgment , further privileges may be come eel. i land, -Scotland, and in Ireland, it is only because to sated to the Catholics, without detriment or :linger ! that situation there necessarily belongs a great de. tical power to the Ca holies. Tile : Parliament liad, to the Constitution. Looking back to the 'purse! gree of political power. I would -open all the ,however, already granted a ptetiett of tilts civil and' a that has been pursued; anti the various modes that i avenues likewise to the distinction of the Bar, be- political povier'to them ; and je coalialot see shy have been recommended for attaining the object ! cause I would have the Catholics run the race of it was un , afe to ge any farther toad eerliament find which the advocates of the Catholics contethplate, ! honour, although I cannot acknowledge the ex., already done. A.ltheugh the Right Hon..,Member I am strongly impressed with the persuasion that ! pediency. of putting power into their hands.-eei was so averse to.granting them an d tern' or, political this course will not be successful in the accorepliA. These are concessions which, the country at f power, yet it seemed 'that he wits disposed to,be ex. ment of that object.—[Hear, hear !] —Of the Three large would cheerfully yield, and which are sane. ! tre:nely liberal to them its every tleug.witiChrega rded plans which have been proposed, and in some Inn. tiotied, as I conceive, by,principles of the soundest ' hihboir,Wietherfolittir, otttnrlTTrunioftir rind sure detailed to the House, one has been abandoned; policy. Much too may yet be dons on the score of .he was disposed to throw open to 000,01 degrees of military promotioneandalso all the honoters of the the second is not likely to succeed.; and the third is toleration : the Catholic soldier should not be ex.- ' notorilvssly impracticable.—{Neer, /war i] —The eluded by military regulations from the exercise of bar. Now he could have wished muctithatit had been first plan was a• project of unlimited coacession—a I his own religious worship, nor the English Catholic known someYeareegb that such %vete theelritimentsof ' project for which there are, indeed, now to he found be compelled to attend Protestant churches, or sue. the Right Hon. Gentleman. If the Unieereity o f • but few advocates within these walls, although the, fer penalties for performing Mass. These are, how. Oxford had then known the Sentiments of their ex. Right Hon. Gentleman, whets the author of the pre. ever, evidently rather illustrations of the view . I en- cellent and revered Representative, they would not sent measure was once loud in Its support. That prin- certain upon the subject of qualified concession, have lent themselves to the object of opposing a Bill ciple, however, the Right Hon. Gentleman has than detailed statements of all the points to which which went ver y far short of his ideas, and ist- eposce ' abandoned ;it is disclaimed by a Right lion. and that view is applicable. But there is . one other only the opening a small additiQnfif Military roam. Learned Gentleman (Mr. Plunkett), who disaluguish. most important consideration to which I feel it my Lion to Catholic olficers.—[4stil cries of kee, ed himself ou a former evenilfig, sad it may b. . there- duty to refer, and to state my opinion explieitly—lt hear, hear ! . from' the ' Uppolilo 1 Eenchrz]- if fore, considered as rejected by every anthoriv in is the question which relates to the regulation of the such had been then knowh to 'have beetsl:is ' this [louse. The second plan, is that which pro. Catholic Hiera r c h y in Irelano.—Uleue, hear n--:- sentiments, he was. sure that the people of Rig. fesses to aim only at qualified concession upon oh.' ro me that foreign influence and foreign inter. k i w i would never have j oi ' editt the cry against those ' tabling such conditions as are necessary to the Sc- course which have been Supposed by many, and ad- Ministers who proposed suc 1 a measure, dor in the curtly of the establishments in Church and -State. milted by my Noble Friend (Lord Castlereagh) to genetal condemnation of a whole Administration, The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Grattan) has never ,he essential to any future arrangement, are causes merely for proposing to Parliament that which was explained the details of those previous arrangements of very serious apprehe n sion. The head of that far short of what the Right , Hon. Gentleman con e and regulations, nor did he adopt them as a part of his Hierarchy is now in the hands of ou r mortal foe, ceived the Catholics Were entitled to.. He could not measure, until he found that they were essential to and Bonaparte has lately e v i n ced hi s sense of the perceive, however`, that if military promotion, and its reception. My Itt. Hon. Friend (Mr. Canning) important advantages derivable from Papal Whs. all the honours and influential• offices were - open to who in the last Parliament submitted the question ence.—[ ll ear, hear!]—Do we not know that that Catholics, that there could be any pnamice ht ito the consideration o f the House, took as his basis influence has obtruded foreigners into Catholic . keeping. them from 'othereeiteatititis.l . IT .lie. ludo ' the necessity of regulation and security. We know Bishoprics in -Ireland, and that General Ilumbert ' lics were raised,' Ind merle inure poiverful than tilt" that this principle . the Catholics resist, they declare found, on his lauding, the brother of a French Ge. I were, their ambition" would lead them to wish for Ithat they will submit to ac State inspection, or to any neral in possession of an Irish See ?—Surely it is i / Seats in ParliaMent; • aa f)er-hops to 'desire More ar contronl over their own Church.—{! leer, hear!]— then incumbent on the Catholics to oiler the same . dently that which . wai 'kept from them. As (4 :This their determination was declared in November, securities and submit to the same coutroul witlrh ;Loill Claretithan's opinion; who thought that soi e 1812, both in the resolutions of their public meet. hale beets exacted and exercised by every other Pro- : ritual end temitirsite allegiance were the same ings, and In the work of Mr. Clinch, who has been testaut State that has admitted Catholics to the enjoy. : thing, and that there .tould be no spirituel avowed by several' Catholic prelates to 'be their ad- meat of equal privileges. If•they will not make the , allegiance ihich ,was' not so much taken ewer vocate and organ. Thes far the Right !limper- -offer,. or yield the same securities, the blame is their ' from the allegiance to the, 'State,, he would asg, able Gentleman's measure will not satisfy the Ro. own, no blame can attach to Parliament; and the' who made Lord 'Clarendon a 'perfect judge of the ' man Catholics • but atiother part 'of his measure is statute of Elizabeth, modified and rendered millets.; Catholic faith ? Ile thought it . much more reasotor, the repeal of the test and corporation laws, and will ble to.the present time and to existing circumstances, ! able to, take the doctrines of that filth' 'Rohnthese ' this satisfy the Church of England.--[ilear, hear!] I should be enforced. When I refuse political power ' Who professed it. If Lord Clarendiees opinion was It appears then that the two great parties to the ar- I to the Catholics,- it is because I cannot reconcile it i correct, how carne Parliament 'to coucede any thing rangement in contemplation do not approve it, and to the security of the Protestant Establishment. The ,' to the Catholics ? —The opitsion of Lord Clarendon . the main object .of general conciliation is therefore Catholics continue to m a i ntain the s p iritual supre. ' was, 'however, denied by the oaths of the Ceieeliets. not attained. The third plan of a Noble Viscount, macy of the Pope, and although history will inform ! and Parliament .hind in t.heir totem! conceSsiOsi relied which depende on the possibility Of Odin the con- us OW this doctrine is not an essential principle of i upon those oaths, cud ant otantt Lis Lordship's itpi. • currence of the Catholics to every condition which Catholicism, yet where it is so considered the nem. i nion. High as the authority2aLloitaj.clarentlett . can be prescribed with a view to the security of the laity which it. imposes on States to guard against its i was, and bowcater, great a faetittritC'h#eaturelle was Church of England, is still less calculated to provefexereise has been always obvious and undisputed.:— - with the I.lniversity•or. Oxford, ,yet he tresteil,-that practically efficacious. Thus, then, all the plans II ma/ quote on this head the Wimp. of eta lesiesui his . epiuiotas epow this point-never wonid tlecidi the yet dertsettor i are deficient or authority than Lord Clarendon, who, after a long : determinations ot P a rliament. The Rightl.lollr _ mod, __ - _ _able Member had conceiveck that the securitiesaught after h 4 ,t lion. Friend had derived, froni a fire to the end which they propose. Ina Committee, land • unwearied investigation on'this subject, 'pro-, ,le , . - Rats' official residence In Ireland, a high degree of , however, upon the present 1 state of the question, I flounced the result of his enquirieS and rejections to ito preccdr . .the 01.0 tieltStei,":l l latcase, what . sect- elperienceon this subject, lie had toted in favour of the must embrace the opportunity it a ff ords I ne,• of ob. be, that an y allegiance paid tonnother power, splei. ray woul d thetwASett'f!. littl-C4oo o l_ 4,lllitlise'gotnidsg 'Catholics, and had stated, that in his opinion the coon- iecting altogether to the form and character of the trial of temporal', is 'taking from that which is due Maas Would follow?" , ;I he "ebony e uff.tehrthe'itig!K howevOr.i• seetre.4 . f . r? retiuire wall Sly could not do well without some measure of the measure to which we are now required to ammo.— te the Stile, and that to assert the latter not to be I lion. Geniletna", .kind., There was a time when Catholic Emancipa- [Hear, hear !] We are desired to acquiesce in a diminished, is. p er f ec tly illusory, and- little better i that in the fi rst' pface, he . • Ctiitiolics. shituld 4 lion could not have been heard •of without horror ; sweeping repeal of all the statutes and p rov i s ions that; .11 species of l eg erdemain. I would address I.clare, tfitit'the Pniie he'd no alskrifnal ; Ilan'N' - in -the! r but the intenseness of the prejudice, as had been stated ; which have been made for the safety of the motes. the Catholics i n the wor ds of the inhabitantrin the 1 Church, and disclaim Pi athoriti . . ": On such trio* by an Lion. Gelit, on a former night, and it was a! tent establishment,without Pterious assurance or coo" 'North of Ireland—if you - cannot give up what yon i the Catholics could never ' obtain say coniessitiutti, .word of choice selection, the inienieness of the pre- . dition, to surrender entire all the guardsestablished call year faith, neither can we surrender our Consfi. , as long as they,centieu,t-.1 To "be Vtrbolies.--6 0 eli judipe had been weakened. those professing the two 'by our ancestors, to.yield advantages 'which are cer- fution.—Near 1 The Committee must, • however, ! language would appear to them a* : r. ••'•'kerit anti religions had advanced much nearer to each °thee" in lain and immediate, and to rely on defences which take cognisance of the prayer of the Petitions on the 'an insult. Instead of erecting. 'a' diSposition to • . . KO lA. ; so that though they still differed on points of 'are subsequent and contingent.---[hear, h er a•!]—: table. That p ra ye r a ppearg . -10me to have been too ! make concessions to them, and' dews:oo, l . in return faith s they were m.fch more likely than formerly to We ire required to eive free access to the privy Ceen...!imperiously erged, and . to have been expressed in ' 1 a surrender of their faith and their reliee . e3 l . 3 thou:::tt 'coalesce in other respects. lie Intended then to cif, to the Judicial e ßench, to opon the doors of * Par- : latiguago too, lofty 'for the occasion. If Kaigland . that it u outd be better to tell them 'in plain, inielli prorse ite E olutions,—fira, t hat the Catholic disabi- !lament, to abolish the Test Act, which the Prince ; should comply with that prayer without quali fi cati o n i gibl e, and honest language, si Myatt! ..Iny equivneatinn litiukshould be removed i' second, that the establish- of Orange insisted on retainin g when he ascended ior reserve, s h e will ,be England' no longer.— .or mental revrvation„ that nothing must be gra' 4 d snentsiu Church and State ought to be secured; and the English throne. I must confess I am not one Should - ail reli g ious distinctions be laid prostrate,' unto the Cathulio, until they should cease to In' ‘'r: be should thee propose regulations for the Eecle- of those who consider old checks as iiispplicalle to - our political. pre.endnence will not long survive.— ; tholics. lie thought it would lk) 110 4 rall .o. to -sl'e ''` siastical Cods, and other matters, and an oath against ' new da nger s, or w h o thi n k th a t th o se safegoards •*Sfvelt; however, must be the effecr attending the •ilittin, and not conceal the real Mean* Under% am foreign influence. It might be demanded of him to erected by our forefathers, f o r thopurpos t rof e aclud..': chimerical profit •t of w hat is c:,:led universal roll- higueus and equ;vrical phrases. ' Ile thOsniht taut if state the regulations; but be would not, and for this ing a.Pretender to the Crown o . __ ea b . ; o Serni . in : Onus liberty, if it is to persued at tire exp poser of , auy arrangement was to be•enteredinto.tor'the pur. , - `wider - these • home, ,civil expediency, andto the - manifest peril f all our •p. of coeciliation, each_patty ought fto teew what establishments. .1 em ' lorry to have occupied so - they were shout. if tie - House sheadil. express its much 'of. the attention of the House, but I was I readiness to grant COneeltili.ni nu - certailk.quilitinot, di nximas to state qn what grounds I could not give 1 they certainty would rat itl. bow - A .g ‘ . 4 'l"a tiler is my assent to a meastivii . of so general and sweeping a' it, unless those COuilisi' oui Could ;tit, oittiiimed, on "nature,' •an so subversive In Its tendency of lthewhieh hie -*Pre disposed to . make . fro conc essions ; . hinieit bul Waal tiii surround the Constltutlon." or . onletitheird igiiosition for „ednestsldlitt„ies atet•!ily CimmicAoris-1.. ' - - a a correspourtni~itifis iskAtawar; Of die tea:. ..,. • 1 ,1 12'‘, r eason, that under pretence of opposing these regula- protecting us either against , 'a disturber at home, .iii Cons, some Gentlemen would oppose the principle. 1 or the machinations of the subterter of empires eel •'' 1 ' a p r o po sed to ) il soifdi e t wo e tal t ouly say, that if any Gentleman on the other' abroad. After all that has been led with respect mi li any religion,relatiohne owfou would security supp n c o r t t trenching : of ie the my c oath onsi ta de k r e a n ti b o y n t t h h a a t ' the s oa lica ll: has ' fi be r. en ta .t Y tkeil et : m m a . talued the principle so much, that he would not be by very few without quellacations and reservations, .'ns that. fool to lose by precipitation and punctilio.—' and that an ecclesiastical admonitioirlutd been . pte- •ar ClissaF s hcai:!)--Ilis obj ect waste lay the soilltintirPritts meigeted, Instructing those to whoa tai nib' bid • p . • , . ,- ~ • . • . . . y. :.. • . • . . • . . . .. . , , . 4.., • . it , . ...Bed to couple securities to the Protestant I. Y . . ).01 ost . , ~., it seems , iii, , i. , . 1.. l i Tent with the concessiousto be made to the C plans slat Me WWI FrUpixocu. ifila 4...0w. , .. .. 7 that a diversity of opinion, as to the mode of effect. then move for !mkt, WI ng be a Mit' est us. wise : ~...7- --- 7 - . 12 , ~ ~--., --... ;ren - ~ 1 hall tt; • - w • • -. • . •., lug Catholic tamancipation, was by no means lktal not u ar . . ; ....,,,..., ~.........„ . ii; ~.. ' $ *tt. .• . thought is, right to enter into a detail of these 'AI. . 1 . ~., ' the first ' git .!` ' : I h ics. Hs Right lion. Friend had, tionever n a o ; *' ° ' 4. ' km ' ‘ rit ' iesne ". t nei ther sbeuld he concMtp . himself juti6:l in ca - :si ed o n eg . pxTrIA 'y7p_decriniraiperettille to unity of principle with regard td the object. All tho t'. t ' ..4 ‘'• , .•„0,4. a, a ki, , , were agreed, that the Church of England, the Church csiolf; ' • , j • „ , . 1 .. • „tril - t .ii t 414101 . 4 .- 47 , . , . n r t ien ne d eir Scotland, and the Church of Ireland, should be iticitng t.'.' . .. . _4. i 4 1 . jog., .l . .. , . ... .. ~ , . . . telt as A . ~ . amply secured and maintained. here . st least was mgall.glaits. concord. If you !Agreed that the Catholic religion of' With - Cob .. p , • . -..- '..;". ' 4 ` . . .. --- 7. - astiiiite . , 12 . -gljel"ret tal: frill-- "'4441.4?'- es, . • "II ke estl ar O li n, - Aret . ibta.c°t o n pol l° t . .. 1 w i ll ' i l c ig h ' l7s l ;t hn igh tb t e ll p o r n e • s ; Wes unsistailtarith the 'welfare of the ,State, you depriso toe caliti•istdittr. bil iitirl a entl , .. . P i tg i nat ow . saiiht -liam.different..modea_of ' W'. Ist an might be asked,. wbittie . titholiCs i It. P , . 6,,5:0401.4,4160 . . .s . . . I - 6 1 tad; ,p o oe t a n . .thittitwhibiltZpliee. Was - that if Parliament showed a dis Itib ' ' Pal A. to wen; iite/"""T'42ear i"t ult .4 ; ai,' ajcitihsi the vtoteakielef Iser .. ne-et-iliiiiiiiiin . bidy? .i : , ~.ikettest s itil,pe of se - .thoto:Claims jo the Catbolloo rl ogio u t i . II , atone ea. • 6 Arl ;ht . AA; tment•Srit hat/•h hed for ever. • IL" Ican. to expect Fitted iiii it the, gelter ,- i iiiiiiiet ,-. i i tlifpiC The sterol . iiiiibililli parltiinitintlitidefitit - grien:tll#l-71 4 - • nis ? .71..• ,. . and desseed ,an .r. • Ittistai -- sulfa of• Coi , :: `datesest#,:di ti ar dosscons venal of' 4 4 ~ trai ~- ( - ..ffarat.' 4ficoutigenteist. - ,Ileilslieie .the, lialW4 - Paribvinwil , r. -0Y eyes la 1,11 ° 44 r e q till' 4111 4. 11 P l4l, conciiiistideketi'litOe ;paw.' sp . . . ~„ . m.. 4ht Hon. Gentlemen's oceedi • ; The effect of ' mit a ree owe . coot" cebtlebat Ai' gi l l • ~qAtie.Prop, . - Steed 61, sli s oilldlie otree o ltretetted out lo thecuthelichi'theye , .. . pr . n g . 1m g , or, ,with , ttioe4,,itnitotrit 4 miursehdlite 'ect - tif midatchtioft, and i Matte, et'' would be many wise and moderate' inough .te.ttin-*'; Producing .t4e Pill and suffering it to lie over till the ! ember; that any of the three* L pl-is'which beim,. debate. WIA lientiby'renedied teiti ihalhe COM:: ' brace It. By thus e v incing a coneflielnry disposition next,,Seig9n; "kit she, 1 fear,• to raise shlgh' tiape. ; Boned to have been , prOpoied, had tutee,. 'bat:. mitten, t*,lit feiliAtibidefi that Catholleßniaisi l iPe-' to the CatholiCS. Parliament ineld;at all events sho t titioai ationg the Caihotics, and to spread dissatia. !. dotted. As to the ftiit phia l of untivaliliedesinces s i nak tien t Islat, a lineationOf ditiulty, Was net is tides: that the.fault did not remain with tbein,. if the nieitri fatal* :And ,taint 'through the Church of England. fri..m which its advocates !ere supposed to have tier' . ot inipossibility. ,The quesilon, indeed; before , sure should he unsucgessful, . Let the* send out tlf 1 -I. lll ,ertki.fieor rl-Thire is a principle which has shrubk,•lie belieied no Member. of that ifouso-Itad the ComMittee, inialit be c*iiehended under. three !dine, however,. and they might depend on his bring.: hien powerfully pressed, to.which I cannot assent, - proposed such a plan, and therefore that irhicli Wlti hiads s'-''The ISt wes iitig. - * f ly . rbi %rb o ge t , ; I ing back the olive—C/Iw, hear ! ]— P e concluded Peenule I regard itiass false and mischievous prin. never proposed could not hoe , biin it o v id o i led.. _ th V e ,'Eitilitiiisthe Cho rd 'Oily eveii reqnistietle.: l • by moving his 'first Besolution , declaring the • cipl e of policy ; it iithafyou ought to give power The eeco.id plan; of - making concessions. t o the ('a. curity 1 dint .the SS, litipelir Ott CitndttiCHlSllllCOM.; i expediency of removing the Cathalicdisatiilities, with to those who are hostilely disposed towards you, tholics, accompanied by securities to. thu established pittible thi 'eftbolic faith's; 'Pike • Isere - the beads • eiVARPOIMI NO ; regulations, and the security of the -in order to abate' their hostility ! , ' But do I there. Church, bad certainly been in no degree abantlonPil, or Whit he should lure to li;iiiiinke.. - ii And heed 1 Yikestioetlititession to the Crown; and that of the fort . .lnfer that m ot gn ought to .reinaln.just• as they although - the securities were not particularly stated - _ -- • •—_, . . ._ • • _l__ .._ _ _.,..e:.__.. , !_._ ! -ke-hmilerwintaa the churches of' England, Scotland, now stand ? certainly not; never hove I entertained •His Hight Hon. Friend had - not alter 'to • •. . .0 My