The Statesman. — London, England, 1813-02-26 00:00:00

nary means for that protection.—[llear, hear!] — They only requested that their persons and property should not be bound without their Interposition — that they should not he taxed without their consent — that they should not be tried by partizans Covenanted against them. This was what they wished for. They asked not for power, but fir4.liberty. They were anxious to be relieved from their civil incapacities. if that was ambition, then they were ambitious. Pro tection, and not power, was the object of their pe titions ; and ought this to be denied them ? The fact was, that the Protestants petitioned for power, while the Catholics only solicited protection. The Pro. testatits desired the ascendancy of a secty-•-•the.reas . t hOlics solicited the' ascendancy of law,- r [ffene l hear!]—This was' the real distinction between the views and o!jects of the two classes of petitioners.— The Protestants were desirous of ruling by . the as cendancy of their sect,—the Craliolics required ins thing more than that they should all be governed by law. The next' objection to the Catho ic.Petitioners was, that they desired to make laws for the Protestant church. To this his answer was, thin they did not desire to make laws for the Protestant ;birch. They only wished, as he had before stated, that their persons and property should not be bound without their interposition, according to the Ades of the Constitution,—that they should not be taxed with out their consent,—that they should not be tried by partisans, or Juries assembled by partisansns. They were perfectly willing that the Protestant Church should beloverned by Protestants; and this would always be the crek,'as the majority of the Members Of be h !louses mutt be .Protestant; and_ would make task for the Prolestaeg i cherch. Bat the Pro:. teftants'svere not satisfied swath Ohl. They wished to have the exclusive priiilege 'or making laws- for . the Catholic Church,—,of binding the property of the Catholics witbmit their consent,—and to deprive the Catholics of the Kiviletes of the Constitution, though the Protestant established church was, pardy.j supported by the tithe arising from Catholic la. I hour. But if none ought to _be admitted to that' House, and to make laws for the Church of Eng land, except Members of the Church of England, the : Scotch Representatives ought to leave the House.— tilter n But that House represented all Protes tants of whatever denomioation and description, and excluded none but the Catholics. The principle was ; not merely wrong, . but it was fatal. It was precisely I this,—that they were to confine the liberty of the GinititutAn entirely to members of a particular Church. This was the prioftple pf the Protestant petitions • while that of the ,Ciitt'olles was, that this ' liberty should be extended to all without.distinction. i t The Catholics desired that the Parliament should be , imperial in fact, as well as in name,—that it should I represent all classses,—and that it should not be al partizan. That House l •tho la called the i . HouSe4 Commons,was not itself the thl estate;it t repreemsted t he third estate, and stood in i !lace, but the eons ? ' monalty of the United Kingdotihtaken altogetber,con e atituted the third estate; and of thit istate,.therefore, the Roman Catholic formed no Inconsiderable propor tion: and was it fitting that so large a proportion of the third estate should remain unrepresented ? But the fir greater proportion of the community was Pro.; tertant, and would necessarily always have a pro.' poederating influence—a prom; ascendancy, set by means of exclusion, but ToUnded on numbers and property. This was an ascendancy which , . in the nature of things , the Protestants ought to retain; arid of that there was no desire to deprive them.-.,1 That ascendancy would be more thinly secured by granting the Catholic Clainis ! thah by rerusius i them. Give the Catholics, then, their liberty, ( h . continued), maintain your own ascendancy, and ' fortify the Crown and the Empire. Yo - uraumbers and' ' , Our wealth will secure your prepoderance in Par. Bement and the State ; and by admitting the Ca tholics to the privileges of fellow-subjects, under the same constitution, give strength and security to the whole empire. Identify the Catholics with your. selves, by equal privileges, instead of keeping up odious distinctions by means of pains and penalties. —This will form a better support both for Church and State, than all the la ws o f exc l us i on th a t ' can possibly be devised. The Protestant petition. ers, he observed, appeared to think it highly dan gerous to the State and to the Church, that five i or six persons, such is my Lord Fingal!, should t have seats in the Legislative Assemblies; but they seemed to be quite insensible to the danger of ex chiding 'four millions of Catholics from their just 1 rights and privileges. Such exclusions must be ' always a source of weakness and division. He next, adverted to those periods of Irish history,, wheat they bad been deprived of their liberties and trade,,, and afterwards got them back agaiu by joining with the' Catholics. By their opposition to the Claims of the• Catholics, they appeared to have lost all idea . Of the liberties of their own country. The Right Hon. Gentleman who had moved the reading of thr clauses in the Act of Settlement, appeared to imagine that the principles of Catholic exclusio'n . 10 ilpgeai, chiefly in the reign of King"Willijin. this was not correct, as to the reigns either of King William or Queen Anne. The exclusive principle was the mad idea of those times, when the Protestants were infu riated be the absurd and abominable falsehoods of Titus Oates, and others, .who found their account in inventing Popish plots. A mad fiction, therefore, was the original cause of the proscription ; .and this mad fiction they were now making the rule for regu-, lating the liberties and condition of the su 'eels of U .. Ingdom.—CHccr, heat, heart . Üb e . 1 civil right* La an lie, were looked at, it would be were no disqualifications on faith.—The _ case of Ilun deserving of notice. One of ,ct of the Hungarian Diet, that without any new orcli-. should have the free our with the liberty of erecting steeples and bells, as well as &c. ; and that nobody'should ither by the King or an yother religious rights. Then came stated, that all public charges, great or small . , should . liessii- Arians, without respect to.the See, then, what I Popish when compared with a British It could' hardly be supposed ormsnomminimommemminnwimi BOUM - Eli 5 e nnerttes ana 1 • r• v • the United Kingdom.—( 4 10 state of toleration and 4 part of the Continent I seen, in France there . I i! account of religious I 3 ,1, gary was peculiarly d the articles of an Ac t a . • of 1781, provided, t 1 Lances, all persons i cise of their religion, 1 churches, even with sti schools l church-yards, Z be hindered therein, eitl i landlord. So far for r the civil. Article 12 sti 11 41 offices, and honours, gr ‘ , ti psted to native llungai ' religion they professed. Diet could' do , though, o ~ 1 1 1OtestaarrtAlalent, i . • • • 1 !V: r ' ~~ i .~ 1 , ; t 4 I l it.kl4) - rhq ~. ~,~__ _, ~.,: :? , 1 • . •4 : 111 thi. ofi Were or a t . differ. )IJed I ved make tty of had lint .)F dis- Antnbera '7 Joined in Catholics in. condi, meta •e am beerucd the , that was 130 in. guettiou canons, by of the hod' ceedings seemed rok Itioi ' r out had become common to almost every great country in Europe, excepting England, they proved their ; charges true in argument . , founded on their pr47n7 though fake in fact; and they brought quote; from certain Writers, to shew that the Fathers, the existing Catholics, held precisely the. sami nets. . This was all founded en monslrelstl and monstrous misstatement. Tito established their principles a,, ley. jured et* inimical principle liiipsited oaths Named by Protehtanta, and orc, a .Protestant Parliament, ‘—::ontits framed with careful attention to all the minutiae on which objections could be raised 7 —oaths which the Catho lics had taken, and Still took ; and by taking .which they _ acquitted. themselves of those bad principles Which had been falsely imputed to,them. They went 1 farther. and denied that the ,cherges we made were 1.. • . i ia identifying them in all cases with their ances ten; but we took this as a condemnation of them selves, and, instead of believing their oa th s, charged upon them the retaining of 'all the obsolete notions of earlier periods of their Church. The Clurrch, it was, tree, was said to be always the same. So, in deed, it might be said, a true. Christian was al rays sthe they . iy a. Tench as separated frote the thleirch' did tathoista w be- slpentheir Church-. The Catholic was not against Here MTh to have authailty over the temporal affairs 10 eirrity, but against making his lib e rty a con di t i onal Indirect,' Ho Skid, " take. any security you Wok ne. for •your religion, if it dues not derogate our liberty, or impair our Church." The and the liberty of the Catholic; were per. compatible with our liberties; and the - wisdom shootd find - oat how to unite them. 4 Ceonv tteland did not attack the prin. but snggested modifications of it ; and this 'fair in the Protestants. lie codld not that the Church of England was, as a body, impious and e.. and contrary to the laws of ' inimical to the civil liberty and. franchises of the 'God and nature. Another instrument to prove Ca- I Catholics ; nor could he think that the people of tholic allegiance, was the oath taken try the AeT of 1 England 'were so. He was sure that he, might the 33d of the King, which swore due allegiance t l,tepose without fear on their good sense and and the defence of, the . Crown, person, and dignity . integrity. Some had explained their object to be the of the King, against all attempts ; to disclose all I security of their religion by exclusion. lie did not , treasons or conspiracies; and to support the sums- condemn their .object, hut hated the means. They sion to the Crown as limited to the descendants were not rightin telling Parliament that re li g i on was of the Princess Sophia, being Protestants. They to be saved by denying rights. lie wished to gratify further swore, that they rejected• and detested all parties in the security of their religions. tie the notion, that it was lawful to depose . or murder I wished to root these principles in the very foundation Princes, on pretence of their being heretics or infi- l of the island. Soule petitioners said "on must save dels„ and the impious principle of violating faith wilig-tbe-Clievoh.--by. a 'monopoly of ali.power to Pro beret:( - denied of - _ the same ; but that wa s not a case which included , .:cs ; and they all power .4. tbe....Pog! - testa* . s." He Would secure the Church by the same 1 criminal Christian.; yet here we went contrary to I direct or indirect, in temporal authority.- By. ; means as the State must be sec ur ed—by th e id en ti fi -- ebsereation of what had pissed almost over all Eu- I Act of the 33d, peculiar to Ireland, the Catholic , cation of the people with the constitution. He would rope, iud % we said there had been no change._ It was swore that he abjured, condemned, and IletesteC gratify the Catholic by repealing the excluding laws, very hssty, and eery imprudent, for any respectable I these deetrines as impious; and declared before.G . ta, ! and thereby qualifying him. Repealing, these laws, set of men us Say, that any considerable portion of 1 that no act, immoral 'and wicked hi itself , eduld-,; he would bring in a Bill to take care of the perm:- our fellOwesubject s were enemies to the Church.Why.l ever be excused by any pretext of its being tribielfor 1 , vent interests of all Colleges , Hospitals, and Peck enemies.-to the Church, unless the Church were an the Church, or by any ecclesiastical power wltglatier, : SiastiCial Courts ; and then such other provisions as enemy to theth ? See how that question stood: if the Absolutions, without the regoleites for- that' rile;limight be considered necessary might be provided by Catholics' rights and the Church's security be de- it was sworn, only occassioned an additional sin,' . the wisdom of Parliament; only they should not go dared by the Church to be totally incompatible, was by the violation of the ordinance. ,It was /et fare t, eo far as to condition theliberty.(which would be iiis not the Church equally an enemy to the. Catholic? ther sworn by the' Catholic, that he would ad'-', i gracing the very gift), or to affect the religion of I How enemies to the Church ?. Was it in penance ? I here to the settlement of property in Ivfand as' the Catholic, or the integrity of *Church. lie Was . it. in absolittion ? Was it in extreme unction, it was by law established ; he disclaimed 'its'lee I wield have the preamble of the ACtso framed as to that the.enmity was to be discovered? Could he go tendon of subverting the Established .Church, in gthiern both Ministers and people in both countries., into partiCulare, it would be found, that, on this order to substitute a • Catholic Esteblitemeot ; : Ile would set forth the absolute necessity of the head, the anti-catholic petitioners_ stated nothing bid and swore that he would exercise no privilege Which ! measure; he would make the act a covenant of con ; that which would excite, not conviction, bat scorn ! he"had, or might obtain; to disturb or weaken i cord, tuput au end 40 ittf national and all rellifosts Enemies, then,. to the. State -- enemies to *he Go . the Protestant Religion and Protestant G'overn:' animosities. - The tiro. tesets,Vel 'the'esvo Isidore,: vensmeet! How ? What was meant . by enemies upon 'meat. What far4lter declarations or securities were ' had been too lett in a state of pnlietea - 14,4 4 - inft, principle? What did that House do, when they re. requisite? The • counter-petitiPuirs might act and hostility. The liberty of the press Should- be loci i n turned thanks to our armies for gaining battles f Did think with good intentions , but they supportedtheta ! the exercise of perfect freedom, except it were 1. Ithey mean to say, that the Catholic soldiers to whom by very bad argnmenie. When they made such I prevent subjects of different religions from abusing\ they voted their.thanks were very good soldiers -in heavy charges v they ought to prove them. What, if . one another out of their common aliegience.— battle, but great enemies to the State? Bat why ene. the printer of such foul charges, against his Majesty's 1 —There were subjects enough: there were the l 1 mies? Let the petitions go to a Committee, add see Catholic subje c ts we r e criminally prosecuted by my French, and the Dutch, and other foreign people; • whether these injurious allegations co u ld he rupporte Lord Fingall, or any others of the Catholic Body ? . and at home there were the Ministers ; and *hen 1 ed. It was said boldly, they were enemies Ate the If so indicted, woiddle produce the obsolete cauous : they did not furnish matter enough for attack, why State; and to suppo r t thi s , th e deem" of the in Court for his justification?' Would my Lord El - i then there was the Opposition .-- [A laugh.]---" You Councils of . Lateran, Constance, and Trent, leuborough suffer, or would my Lord Kenyon have ; cannot too soon put an endto your religious disputes 1 would be brought forth. Very well : but he would 0 u ffered; the decrees of the Councils of Lateran, , and animosities. If you adeert to your geographical i produce against these proofs, the authority of a Treat, and Constance,, to be . put in as evidence i situation,--to the spirit of your Constitution l —to I British Parliament, who, by the . vierious thanks' against the Catholic? Would the defendant say, that ! your union under one Sovereign,—you will see that ! which it had noted, had shown an opinion of their he had no particular meaning against any individual, ! you can have but one interest. You are, and should ! allegiance .. and practical loyalty ; and not a but was general in his charge against a whole Body ? Imost important interests, this outcry of religion is be, bueone people ; but united' its you are in the theoretical, unfoUnd e d, an d a b om i na bl e.. susp i c i on. Th a t wou ld b e ' to excuse hi mse lf b y saying, that he Enemies to liberty l—Whet, was Mare Charta g o had no a n tipathy agai ns t a n iedivideal ; but thathe i heard, *bile the voice of nature dropped.—Put proof of attachment to liberty ?-lie would•go to the i meant his charges against four millions of his fellow-lan end speedily to this abominable contest."— ! Declaration of Rights, as a Parliamentary document,lsubjects. The doges against Catholics implied not His first step would be to . move for a Committee, for that Declarati on , f or th e most part, declared old only a political dereliction, but a moral turpitude; pursuant to the resolution of last year. If asked by laws, which formed the great body and force of Bri-1 which, if true, rendered them quite incapable of the . any Hon. Member what he would then do, he would fish liberty. Who were the authors of these invalu- I.daties of society, and Qf all those necessary ant...telkhim: he should, therefore, read a resolution which Isle laws, but th ese ' enem i es o f Ch urc h an d State?-.- I plastic principles which held the community toi. 'iWa Committee he intended to propose. The resole.. Why had we not gone farther at the Revolution,lgether. They made the Catholics .not men, bet don risid by. Mr. Grattan was in substance,. " that, but because we thought our ancestors had been such! monsters. It was impossible 0 suppose persons bee with a view to such an adjustment as would be coil, friends to liberty, and had established such statute.. : lieved in such thariges,but they made them to exclude ; ducive to the strength and security of the Established securities as their wisdom, co:11d not exceed? lie ethers from all power. The Clergy of this cOuntry o Church, and to the peace and concord of all his Ma. i should place these facts, drawn from Magna Chatta. no doubt, understood religion perfectly ; but. therc jetty's subjects, it was highly desirable to remove the and the Bill of Rights, against the injurious and appeared a mighty 'difference iii their opinions Orit; disqualifications affecting his Majesty's Roman Ca calumniousimputations, that our Catholic , fellow : 1 language when they prayed, from wring they it o si tholic subjects ; preserving safe and unaltered the subjects L. were the enemies of liberty. Yet th e Ca. i when they petitioned. In prayer they addressed ilieolestent succession nvording to the Act of Settle ! tito li cs were charged with maintaining the doctrines' .the Deity as the universal God, who sent his Son :meet and maintaisfing the Pretniktent.Estahlished Lend tenets which they absolutely denied, and pp. 'into the world to spread his divine revelatiat4C 0 1114er Englawkood freiencl,4l bill* establish. 'sitively foreswo re ,- , certain decrees of those anti-red to saes otivivkinil;* but wififf -- they -- Pitt- c T 'st the Kirk of Scotland." After moving that • ....What . was tire -'anio nt Trorsh ese tioned, their seutimente appeare d re rerind ; they ! the rilioletion of last Session be read, which was ; charges ?—The -p r i n Opl e o f the Pope ' s d epos i ng seemed to think that the Deity•hlid almost abate. 1-deUe, he moved for the going into a Committee. .power, the regic idal principle, and the reward of per- dotted his revelation, and that prgfessed Christians' l Mr. VONSONBY . seconded the motion. Jury !..-As tb the deposing power, end the regicidal i throughout - the greater part of Europe were worse Mr.•TOMLINE then rota. Impressed as he was power, such principles acted upon would constitute i than any o th er p eop l e on th e g lob e , and, were l oath .the Importance' of' the subject, he could not treason, yet eters th e s e were c h arges . Th ere cou ld ! actually monstvrs: that the Deity had been almost; eedaider himself as having discharged Ms duty, if he be no doubt,, that IT they held such principle., they driven out of Europe, except where he had beest;2 l.ra Wed ought not to be adiwitted at all within the . pale of saved by the Dutch and it . to pass with a silent vote. In the few a few others on the contr.' ' ' • tionshe had to make, he should avoid every constitutional privilege : but be defied those who neat, amid by the Colleges and Corporations felts *Oleic thet could excite irritation, which, he lament mede.such charges, to support th em by th e p ra cti ce petitioned, thrOugh the intervention of certain gdaidg eld to say, was too prevalent. One argument, usual ,pf the Catholics, or by any other means, except by , and barriers ; and these securities were,- In .faCte'tly brought forward when the Claims of the Catholics use fruitless, contemptibly and o b so l ete canon ., nothing else than laws, by Which such pedtioneee-Were *cussed, was the name of Mr. Pitt. He should which the Catholics had e orsworn ._[Le_ we , b rav e). confined, and would perpetuate all powers and silllittlite ilse reasons which appeared to him to take .When such a charge was made, he begged to read ! profits to themselves'. [Hear !]--This was nothiug, e kititjemuielt from the force of that argument. In the the opinions delivered, at the request of our go-lin truth, but a coe s tinn for exclusive power and year 1800, 'the resignation Of that great Statesman were/twit, by the Universities of Salamanca, Val-i pine. • The God of Prayer las a different being took place, previous to the proposal of any measure ladotid, Alcate l Paris, L ouee i ne , a nt i D oul iy. 7 .- i from the God of -Petition :if the ascriPtioitt of the . respeCtint.the-Catholies. Ile never made any de' Those authorities were appealed to as the best • prayers were that . precise lute' and they all did nu t mere l y deny, but rejecte d; sertions in the liied five er . with scorn, the imputations of the Pope's having a !., be. anderstood depOsing power ; and of the doctrine of keeping : oomq of the pet no:faith with heretics, 'which- seemed so abominable I berty with their that they were almost ashamed to hear of it.— irrespect•for them, What could be wished farther ? 11, would give :period their ecru , something from a book, which had been described as:should seethem I a means of keeping alive the bad prejudices of Cs- and fellow-cltristionit, tholics, and the duties of infidelity and niertler;* It cause of their was used by the students of . bleyuooth.( :roulette/og(e . it.neces sari that Eciktio), and of whieheit-was 141, that *posterity. time, for the - was corrupted by.thitcriski4l:slemmitarybook. Ile Catholic went shaald read quigirjelajte,Okkisikkjll,4 and de...the commuully. . . ..." I . . - • ' . • A ' TI-1141. siT , -:.„,...„. , ........ .• . • .. .tay lois. • merderoes. The accusations fohoded -- • ' --- "', . - ---". -,.-e.6.1 a, .•-o:Ati• -, 10 " . • -' .a. - ..., r , • , ... ... ~ . .•' , 4 - , Ap i a ...""' '" - *Mut ottitatia 't he set • '---yt Ibeiebel - r that they had any good idea ,of t. • T . . ..4. : L ._ ~..____,,,, , . - . . . .. - oft, rom. their eifeed, t i ...".!.,, tenierna of inot ti ;eo a ; ct ase- the old oanooseasounted to nothing less. Th us also at the cases of Prussia and of Itusslik.2 Mielele!e_„.,: • ' : _ t ; ir ,:re,„ 4 ,,,, i. .. i.t gagoeurT, or to was, that they did not tolerate. to the elelf.Ptatalr" ..-- • -• . us , -ly :they to exclude one-Afth of, the, population Catholic Governments actually did. CAlhollo`oth 7 ' . ' "'ilkilleteitker directly " •• or - *patios were to continue dispates till they 5, ,i, !Ph ; yet. ovoid . the any and igity _esiAre, by arguments such as these; and the din vernmeets bestowed not obi; religious liberties" be - but civil qualifications, apd the Church ' agreed' I to et 6 latertAfk pt them. 31148 , .!el tdonatf b0t0C,410,14r • 00eftelelesello .• . ~ _ , . s " : istke4 out if their political and civil connects but *an L' l lqtrlth eittettaa‘l4„,.., WeikhoWereq, 14 : . • .reitnark, that do: . "rhikde.3 . ' "eharges , might be ripeatesir-till •'some bpii, . defined that p 0 that 4 and • , 1 erVgell - teinibnwillhAl grant* it With. Plank and OP .. ~_ , ifi . f theiirif li r io . " pedaklei. - . We ad ahltierely dOrtia. Gatelike of ;'fbrieutallifes'elle itstrseles Natl "civildrassAitair..kiit dilan.of. Adigialffa. . __ it _ theh i garliament to examine and see whether we had Wirt. talwayi mu Church &chiefly petitioned, that the disqua .s , . 0 0 . • pe- - it present the elements of concord. Iternotal ofd bons laid upon them should belier - petuall...The whole Prom Aeolis* . -mOtsfd:Atir to, which had 'qualificatioot was . asked for, and . greqt *umbers ; question was, not what were the d o gmas sod the , alio- bent seeik; "iniereffeeeet-m47 the Catholic . Irish Protestants .of rank and .property joined cinons hut- what were the principles and thelemper Prayer.book. - 11 1. tions fagot it 'ftatet,. that - Mr teliessit" 'lt - was, said, that the Catholics of the body, and what was - the character of the pro- I" no General eWhell p Inch Wait eithshtery, could dsted on Insithlg - 101611 :they desired without con ceedings of the petitiqners. The counter-petitioners' depose a King; and that atibliscta were not bound dons. Suppose It were so; that iris no arc seemed totally ignorant of the facts on.'which they ': by such a-deceee :. AO the lin t ig.nf 'England's sub- WhY Parl'ament _was not to -legislate, to make rested their petitions. The clergy and corpneations jects reooonoed : by their. oath ranch a *trine, on Act, and to provide the modification s, that soca asserted, that the Catholics were Just the same , " in ell grounds , is ekaognalbt to' the fundamental . -advisably: The honest interpretati o n ef what I the worst of times—in periods, of massacre and, her. ; laws of society; 'lnjurious •to the siren*? power, , Catholic said, was, that he saw linnet:amity for ad ror. Thts they stated, after witnessing the demon- ! and deltritatted 'of the - ends; of Government.— I *Hon.' akerityy he having given aircady all that i tioh of the Vatican, the prostration of the Rely In- ' It said, they lielikved the Bishop of Rome to be the , in his power.. The Synod' had said, they had. no 1 quisition,_ the downfal of the Pope, who fell with-' 1 Head of the Chtiteh'3 the Church bein g a universal , disposition whatever to every reconciling step; tt out any Catholic t o . help him ; and after toleration ; body under. one held tebut that he wits not inTallible, 1 would do any thing necessary, that did not tree . . . • fresh , ' tho Plen reit' ii-ndie. lid Vs A Altos, lk. , . -- AL ..! _ na____a_ rr...—. A. :. .. -. • their premises, :of Princes and States ? directly or Indirectly. If he ' grant. LiAlgek slit quotations abseilvid, or dispensed with, alfmeatice in charges of :cessary ' for -ye e Fathers, and : hereiyor schism, the, act would be vain and null; , froni our Übe, r the , same te- : and 011 Catholicewould be' hothell'he conscience, not- " Church, and tb streas mistake, withstanding, to defend the sing and the country,as ' fectry . compatib 4 41 -Catholics had,: much as any Protestants-404 against the Pope himalef IN. meat e 4 24 , Iyhich - ..b- b- fief abiuld he iodide the klotdose.; l 4Mak . .l,- 7 4,ii '' ' • tka• 14d op them,— for the,problemeldcal.ditqiutiolliitte rjeltst, :~d , p 1 e, but am I Ordained by 1 they were not responsible; bit' With regard .. to the'lleas perfeelly 1 wined with a King-killing doctrine, it was' expressly dated to be ; believe that du iito on which i impious and execrable, and: contrary to the laws of i inimical to thl 1 true, he must maintain that the as, , claration of • his • precise intention twin that at, tilect ; e petitions were kb,. He ,begged te r t end, thOughle Hied five years after, he never thought I that he professed i great respect foqprOper to bring the subject forward.. The present petitioners, but he mist take some ti.. Lord Chancellor . declared that he otter knew of teir arguments ; he could not feel die- " any such Intention beinsentertained.Mr. l'itte— em, since he hoped that at no distant • Every persoollneti th at be afterwar d discouraged cronies wattld by overcome, and that he l , such Chtitni. 7 NucoMmunication of 4.4, such [men- ern all united with their fellow - mtbjects tiott was ever : made to bit friende.,. The adrocr.tei leaflike*, 'in the • ;mimeo interests - and for repeal could not, th erefore, rest,lgpe:Mr. Pitt, cotameo cepAtry. r h Z 96 l # r! ] ile.thought 'as flavo#4.ble 'to that dare. Tfe.,, - Tepid: al l o w , lutt an end - should ... pit to this cow ; that no argument frein tuthoritt was,gned... It-was “PA 4l "Vit io. sprit of the . prefosAtion. against lite! tp the . 410,AtptAPIP1Pre .thiL - ril l ii i *P " tto esseludeilor eggeltirtea•portion .4, den 51 - 1 . Al* *eave s : th at:4lo , elii . ,eppir V* ke*ZWILIc.kOI4 4 1 .ai? ,411 0 0 1 -riK#C,0 2 .)!.#40.2 4 *0. '41214gr • - .7..1 - 77=r-•-,,•, 77 .- • • , •-• rots tharti/Eed, this mentions founded thing less. Thus Were the, population of tli,. these; and the difil-r. ispotes till they 5; )Id e d aad civil conoectioh. etir-till 'some beliov e d iered them to be m it i o Wag thP. great 4loty of e ishother We had not .ord. itemotal of dis. tad gretkt • cumbers of id .property joined lit hat Catholics in. esired without condi. hat was no arg:Lnent legislate, to male an itioations, that seeeic r i rirtadoa of what the ne necessity for addi. .* alrrady all that w a s I sai d, they had. U 0 in. reconciling step; they that did not trench • mile was not against s liberty a conditional • rarrity you tttiulc.ne. it does not derogate our Church." The s Catholic, were per- dies; and the :wisdom t bow to unite them. d not attack the prin. dons of it ; wad this slants. lie cottid not gland was, as a body, and• franchises of die c that the people of sure that he, might teir good sense and their object to be the xclusion. lie did not led the means. They meat that religion was lie wished to gratify ' their religions. tie • in the very foundation s said "on must save f all-power to Pro- le Church by the same ...- erect—by the identifi-- • nstitution. He would rot the evetudine law! • - - I. 1; 1.1 !vre