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IWP&RI 41: P.ittLI.43IENT. HOUSE Of I.ORUIS-4441.mr, F i g. 9, The Bishop of Gloucester took 6e ciths and bis seat. _ . The Irish Grain Intercourse 831 was read a third thrie and passed. On the motion of lewd WALSINGHAM, the Irish Gun-powder, the Army and Navy Setinftion, C.* Irish Tiessury Bills, eLd Canada Yarn Bilk, were severally read a second time, and ordered to b! committed for to-mirrow. Mr. Haw, front the Bank of England, prese.ned the annual Accounts of the Commissioners for the reduaion of tho National Debt. The Earl of L AUDE RDA LK called the attention of their Lordships to the resonitions of tke House, date the 9 , 11 of July, ISOS, to which the Clerk of the Tiendr o i i ScotlanA, was ordered to make a cer tain report. His answer has not since been for wardei. and the object of the pre.ent Motion WAS, 04 .11'bat be be forthwith ordered 'to return the neces sary ahca'etS."—Ordered. His Lordship next nrwed, "That the Clerk of the Tiends, in Scotland, be ordered to lay before the ;louse. an account of the number of processes com menced, and the summonses issued thereon, for the augmentation of tythes, since the Ist of January, 1606, and the dates of the rupediva augmenta tions." . Lord Walsineham brought op the report of the Slave Trade Abolition Bill, with amendments. • LordGREN V ILLE said, that since he last had the honour of addressing their Lordships on this mew ore, he Mt some arrow reaseers to change his lo.sner id!as relative to the period at which the ge etra! p-ol•ibition should commence. It was his intention to I;mit the continuance of the trade, in toe cnailnz clauses of the Bill, to the Ist of May, 1807, at tha same time that a provisional clause si.ould eruhrace the cases of such ships At aaually • cd from a Btitish port previous to the let of May., • bast whi h were unable to trek • good their voyage *tattle West Indies before the Ist of January. 11103. In considering the suggertio. of a Noble and Learn ed Lord (Redesdaie), that the words of the Bill at resent were, with tespell so the purchase of slaves, If sot ambigucus. at least too general ; and to pre vent any such conttrnSion as may by possibility at jach to toe purchasing et slaves, either in the East .3tidies or on the Clans of Asia Minor, be should amend the clause by distinaiy restria lee the operation of the Bill to Attica, the West Indies, fad any other part of America.- s. The Neale Lord then moved the several conscquelt amendments. On the suggestion of Lord Resler dale. tee Clause for limiting the landing i 1 Slaves • In the West Indies, to the Ist of Jan. 1809, out of • • ships, which bad item fide sailed from a British port p, evious to the Ist of May, 1806, was sill farther (atomics; to cases of capons. loss. or any *envoi& a:de necessity, the necessity of proof being imposed on the party which had so suffer ed. The several amendments being pot and autted to, • The Bishop of LONDON spoke to the fol lowing elle& My Lords. I cannot suffer this opportunity to escape, without declaring my sincere and ardent satisfadion at the decision of your Lord •ships. My Lords, yea have performed a great and signal sa of humanity. you have remittal a great legislative measure of relief to an oppressed and d-graded population. The reasons and argu ments which many Noble Lords have thought proper, • vrish such eloquence and perspicuity, to introduce. h4te been felt by zoo with their fullest force; but there is one of such an important nature and •in which such serious interests are involved, that I vim to be excused far submitting it to your Lord ships' more particularly as it has not been advent,' to in any previous discussion. the ravel and religious consequences which may be expefted to accrue from this salutary and hu mane aa of legislative justice. are many and ex tremely desirael.• ; for hitherto they have been in t7-ely negleited--negledied, not by the Clergymen, .in the respeaiveislends. but it is a neglea naturally arising out of the mitts' and unchristian system, wl,eh has been aged upon in the Colonies.— Worked all day upon the estates of their owners, the Negroes have been foiced to consign every aather areaserit of their unhappy existence to the .cultivation of their own little spots of land, and even nu the Sabi) ith. shame to say ! a market was held for th, .p vitie purpose of enabling the Sieve 'to porcliase his Sundry dinner. The number of C. ? grim s was also too few, compared with the g cat population id the Blacks. In the Wand of Jamaica, whsre there were from 2 to 300,000 Ne genes, there' were only twenty Clergymen, whose time was in a great degree taken up in the per formance of their numerous duties to the Whites.— There was another beneficial consequence which w arid f , .lluw from the accomplishnsent of the pe eve Bill, the great increase of population, which the good treatment of the Negroes would produce, independent of the cessation of those evil effects which the present indulgence in promiscuous inter e-nrse between the sexes must of n-tcessity occasion. only tree method of obviating the mischief, is to impress upon the moral and religious considera tions of the Negroes, the danger of a continuance in each irregularities, to their health and constitu tions. and, therefore, the immediate and absolute nec.isity of submitting to this kind of sell-denial.— It was said by Mr. Pitt. that the Slave Trade with Africa was the greatest praaical evil ; I can safely say, that the Abolition of that execrable traffic is the greatest praSicel good that can be effetted.— A good which will immortalise the British Senate, and which will display, to an admiring world, the striking contrast between this country, the great stay and hope of the civilised world, and the con stn .% of that arch enemy of human happiness, who. whilst we are relaxing the oppressive bondage of the unfortunate African. and communicating free dom to a fourth of the world, is pursuing am race of terror and desolation, and subjugating the Con tinent et Europe. in violation of every principle of justice, aid in contempt of every maxim of a ge noreau policy." Earl ST. VINCENT could not enter the present opportunity to pass, without repeating his decided oepesitien to the present measu e. Noble Lords may suffer their miiids to he too much hexed by -••..••-- • Silt taeliCa •••• Trade, was * wrrreo4oe of the antain7mt 4 tl.e to Frame - he could not patievittl'and zatitty in te r pcei to *ranee this measure eatite.t me of t 1 Slate Trade, the conoquence tt Enrich tessient trued belelonial greatness, ant! ran ritime preponderance. He certainly expeded that a peace would soon follovi; as, with the benefits which France must derive from this system, the Continent of Europe would prove nothing on a comparison.—The Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. Lord GRENVILLE postponed his Motion rela tive to the assimilation of the Scotch and Engli.h Laws, until Monday next—Adjoetrued until to. morrow. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The /loose of Lords intimates their assent to the Corn Intercourse Bill. A Person from the 0111:e of the Chief Secretary in Ireland, presented a Return of the Sums kvied by Grand Juries for four years, from January 1800. —Ordered to He on the Table. Mr. Batisam presented the Report of the Ply mouth Committee, finding Sir Charles Pole, Bart. and Thomas Tyrwhitt. Esq duly elated ; and dr elating that the Petition did not appear to be !rit•o lous or vexatious. On the Order of the Day for the Attendance cf Mr. Vernon beim; read, Mr. VERNON rose, and begged the favour and indulgence of the House, as his non-attem;anc.: at the Committee, on Friday last, had proceeded from misconception, he having supposPal that the House bad adjourned from Thursday to Monday. The SPEAKER desired th:s to he span oath ; 'which being d ne, the Hen. Mcmhin's iplogy was accepted or. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL brought op the Bill the making Freehold Estates Assets for the pay ment of Personal Dens.—Read a first, and ordered to le read a second time to-morrow se night, and to be printed. About a dozen Petitions against the Oak Bask Bill, signed by Tanners in various parts of tl.e country, were severally presented, ant ordered to He on the Table. Earl Temple brought up the Newfoundland Fishery Bill.—Read alrst, and ordered to be read a second-time tomorrow. Mr. Precuts* , le presented an account of an the Permanent and War Taxes since JAII. 1803. It was ordered that the C tntrnitte.t appoint-d to inquire into the State of Pauper and Criminal Lunatics, do have power tr call lot. papers sad accounts. Mr. Hohhoese brought no the Report of the Bill to contirne the Aft for preventing Depredations o the River Tbames.--Ordaed to be tam into consideration on Friday next. Sir JOHN NEWPORT gave notic,. that to morrow he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to secure t properties of orphans iii Ireland, and that the House should go into a Clnratinee, to con sider so much of the A.ll of the 2iith of the King, as related to the Regulations of the Drawbacks and Bounties on Exportations from Ireland; and also that he would to-morrow move for leave to bring in a Bill, to authorise the disposal of quit-rents in Ireland. The committal of the Land Tax Commissioners' Bill was postponed to the 3J of March next. }lr. I - tollhouse presented the Report of the Com mittee of Supply, con•aining the Rmohnion as to 1,900,0001. being granted to His Majery for die. charging such Exchequer Bills as may be paid off during the course of the year 1807.—Agreed to, and a Bill ordered to be brought in accordingly. Sir John Newport presented the usual Annual Pe titions from the various Charitable Institutions in Ireland; and also Petitions from the Roman Catholic Seminary, the Royal College of Surgeons, and the Dublin Society, for promoting Agriculture and Useful Arts, praying for ce:tain grants being made to them, for prumotin,g the purposes of their Institutions. He then presented the several Esti mates of their Expences. All these were severally ordered to be laid upon the table. The Secretary at War presented a Return of the effeaive strength of the parties employed upon the ordinary Recruiting Service, from Jan. 1806, to Jan. 1807, a Return of the Regiments raised for Home and Foreign Service, the Recruits for each, and the number of Desertions. Ordered to be on the table, and to be printed. Earl TEMPLE postponed the second reading of the Oak Bark Bill, to this day fortnight. Sir JOHN NEWPORT rose, he said. °lsle to say a few words upon the abject of this Bill. If it should be attempted to carry into effeft the Aa of James the First, be could apprise the House, that it would arnaant to an absolute violation of the Union with Ireland, and would tend to prohibit the exportation of bark to that country ; and, therefore, ha should deem it his duty to oppose it. Earl TEMPLE postponed the consideration of the Report of the Sierra Leone Committee, till to morrow. On the Motion of Mr. JOHNSTONE, there was ordered to be laid before the Hease, an account of the Income and Charges of the Consolidated Fund, from the bth January 1806, to sth January 1807, distinguishing each quarter. CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS. ______ Mr. SIMEON, in pursuance of his notice, rose to move for leave to bring in a Bill, for altering and amending the Act, passed in the loth Year of His present Majesty, (or regulating the Trials of contro verted Elation*. In doing this, the Right lion. and Learned Gentleman made a long speech, ex planatory of the objea he had in view ; the sub stance of which was this: Having lately served on the Malden Committee, an extreme case occurred, which affeeed his mind, and gave him reason t think, that some measures ought to he adopted in order to prevent its recurrence in future. The number upon that Committee having been reduced, from fifteen to tourteen, on account of the necessary absence of one member, it turned nut, that, upon a division there existed an equality of votes on both sides, and the seat was determined only by means of a double vote being given. This, be thought, might frerriently occur where the original number was so aczidttr.tally reduces' to a similar number, and di tris!iox 6y seven on both sites. This reduced Election Corissniurts to the dilemma— that they must either -•••.1. ~M ,, • enter. EtrrenrcVnaty as this is4gls spittle, t was the case with every fildialite in the,couatt ehrept the thruse of Commons atself, affit the Court of Senri-n, in .s , .lldand. In otent:lniig the Malden Commirter, lie. was not insinuatieg the smAlen• disrespect. He had no doubt but that the double vote was given with petted impartiality, bet still it strack his mind ..as being extremely hard, that tI e whole decision of the contested ease should torn upon the double vete of the Member lira ballatted fur, irrtead of the cksting vote of the Chairman, according to Om words of the An of Parliament. The words of the An were—e That if the number shall be eqnal on both sides, the Chairman shall have the casting vote." It might be implied from this, that the Chairman should have no voice, except in the case of en equal division ; but on looking back into the An. he found it was declared, that in case of an equality of s ven and seven, he who i, first ballotted for, shall have the casting voice. By thie means, ' the casing voice most in sash cases be declared by a double v,qe. l'he question was, whether this was essential to the judicature of controverted elections, and whether this was the best mode of doing ju•tice to the parties concerned 1». He thought it proper to bring the matter under the review of the House, to ascertain whether a double vete ought to be given in that or any other way. It was certainly a Judicature of a very siogular nature, and be thought it ought to be assimilated to that of the House itself. An evil must exist on one side or another, and if it were possible to decide such ques tions, without may double votes being given, it would be most advisable. From the analogy which the Committees bore to the House itself, it ought to be a matter of consideration, whether the form of their proceedingt should be assimilated to that or any other Court of Judicature. It should either be determined that the Chairman should have ao voice, except in eases of equality, or that at all events the greater evil should be avoided, by not allowing him to have a doable voice. The Learned Gentleman then concluda.l, by proposing a motion as above s:ated. Mr. BANK ES said, that the cause of complaint was of such a kind, and the mode which the Learn ed Gentleman meant to propose for its redress, was such, that he thought the law was preferable as it now to 4 ; he should therefore oppose the Motion upon the present occasion, as he thought it was needless to encourage a Bill to be brought in, which was so likely to be thrown oat in some future stage. The CAS: stated. was one which very seldom oc curred. The Aa had put it into the most conve nient of all forms, because the decision was left to be determined by the casting or double vote of the Chairman; who was naturally looked op to on ac count of his abilities, integrity, and other qualifica tions which distinguished him. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman seems to imply. that this very man who is so held up to notice. on account of the necessary qualifications, should be the only one who should be deprived of the ability to give a double vote, should it happen to be necessary. He saw no remedy in thus taking away the vote of the Chaitman. The general maxim of 14w was, that there should be an end put to a dispute by the Ju dicature, to which it was originally submitted, and therefore it was better to take the decision of the Committee as at present constituted, than that it should be eu pended altogether. The Chairman was bound to perform the same duties, and to take the same oath, as other Isfembers of the Committee were ; and why should not the decision depend upon his vote, as well as upon others, the more es pecially as be is one who pays the most particular attention to the subjesil I Mr. SIMEON explained, and said, that the Hon. Gentleman had misconceived his ateamae. He sever meant that justice should be asleep by the de cision being suspended. He meant only, that in nu case should the Chairman vote, except in cases of equality, where seven of the other members had •oted on each side; and that in no case should he have a double vote. Mr. C. W. W. WYNNE sail, he agreed in the arguments of the Hon. Gentleman opposite, (Mr. Bankes) and should. upon similar principles, oppose the motion.---The two situations were per feßly different; that of the Speaker of the House of Commons, and that of Chairman of a Committee. The whole of the Members of a Committee were equally sworn to do justice, and he believed that no case had occurred, during the experience of 30 years, where a Committee had been charged with improper partiality. Should such a Bill pass. every Chairman, followina up thesame analogy, might de cline giving his opinion altogether, altLough it was well known, that Committees in general derive great benefit from the opinion of the Gentleman appointed to that situation. The objea of the Bill being to assimilate the situation of Chairman with that of the Speaker. he might decline giving an opinion, ualeu he found an equality amongst the others composing the Committee. Should the Hon. Gentleman, however. still persist in his pro posed Bill. be (Mr. Wynne) should not be further disposed to press his oppolitioa, till the second reading of it. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, that he conceived the Eleiion Laws to be of such very great importance, that the House should hear some very cogent reasons indeed urged, before they even allowed a Bill to be brought in. He believed the Learned Gentleman's motives were pure and sin cere ; but as the subjed had engaged much of his (the Attorn-y-General's) attrition, he found him self to be of a very different opinion. In Courts of Law, the Judges were frequentiy equally divided in opinion, and consequently not able to d-cide ; but ancient ii.;ige had been an much respelled, that nobody has ever thought proper to ploposc any altera•ioa in their constitution. In the year 1770, Mr. (Irenville bmullit in that A•_t. which gave the ca.ting vote to the President of Committees, and even where the numbers were equal, no care of unjust or improper partiality had occurred. Tire Learned Gentleman seemed to aim at theoretical and unattainable perfeeion. Ile appeared inclined to render the very person who was likeiy to be most intelligent amongst - that Cornr..;tt.•e, a m-re non- Supposing that a Committee were to l‘e reduced to fourteen, by the indisposition of any one of their number, would the 1.. rotted Gentleman pro have die matter decided, by giving a cast. - .-..- ~~ hit Of ricuisie vote to of% of theme *ten, to .t 0 1,% 40, a i rmA n was not united in oiiirsion. h pie ierence to haring it d:•terrtiiiirl by Cie Wien, c l 4 L'ertsom he agreed? Why opt give a double root , the Chair Man, as well as any of the trlict hiervib e rA of a Committee, Whets found avereiarl? Mr. SIMEON hale tnsk. and 41, that aS Mainly saw the opinion of the Fidisse was differ( tk from his. he should withdraw the station b e t.. 44 proposed. it was accordingly withdrawn. • Lord FOLKSTON next rose. ant) propreysta• k minion to the House upon the same Attie& ria At of the 2dth of the King, commonly csillearli Grenyilie Act, did not state the whole of the Rl , t.. lotions that were generally of served as to the met necessary for Petitionei s emoting into recogh ixenttS He therefore mated, •• For leave to bring in a 434 to alter and amend so much et the AR of the hc), of the King s for regolving Controverted INtstionss as related to Reccgnizantes." Mr. C. W. W. W Y NNE said, that 'flit rime 4 , !owe., to Petitioners for entering into , had always been appoinvd by the lirs o k ma „ . 1 the House. and had been found without interfering with Cie aelio question. The Motion was aot withdrawn, bat pig frost the Chair, and negatived without a &Orion FtINUEO PROPERTY OF FOREIGNERS. Mr. BANYES said, that he was about to well for a Document, which was important Sis vess4 points of view. He wished hat a staremeattf Property of Foreigners. which is vested in tie Funds, should be submitted to the consideration kr the House, in order that they might judge wised.* it was proper to continue the esemption from t he Property Tax, tvhich they are sit present entitled es. His opinion upon this subjett remained claire anal , tered, and was rather contirtmid since the fan time this matter was under discussion. He did est know any other mode of again bringing this metre under diseussion, but by moving, .• For an weer* of the Foreign Property so vested, and the astern* of exem,:tions which had been, granted, in tenses quence of the subsisting eel." In moving Ur that document, however, he did not pledge Itineelf rs bring forward any siihsequent motion. That wat a matter which might depend upon many tiretni. stances, and amongst others, upon the sort of sups pen, and the sort of opposition, he was likely 14 meet with. He did not, by this motion, wish to express the smallest hostility to the Tresist system of Finance s for, upon that intended to speak upon anr.ther though he might not think afterward% that thou was any probability of succeeding in what he mei wish to propose on this head, yet he had often found it extremely useful to bring forward a Me. Lion, even although the objeft of it could n t he attained, because the frequency of discussica ct A question disputed, generally tended to ha ultimate success. In his opinion, justice required fiat theta shoul A be no exemptions granted to foreir=s. who have taken the security of onr public funds, riA to benefit us, but to benefit themselves. The 11, Member then moved, , s That there be laid hetet: the House, an account of the amount of all emotions granted to foreizners, in rasped to tbf dirty' on dividends doe from• i',e various Ike Great Britain, and front tnoie of the 5,.10 and East India Company, iu the year ending Ltirt day, 1306." Lord HENRY PETTY said, that betook' at present &ursine with certainty as to the [sena to which such a statement could he made tip, bs undoubtedly the information which the Hosionral4 Gentleman called fur was of a discriptirn seitcb could not be denied, however much any miners's* proposal might be objeei-nable. He eettaiel! thought it candid to state, that he retained the saute opinion that he did last year. with regard tia the ets pediency of creating any d;ference ;n the law in das respee. He had no dhab bit the Howe, arils comparing the advantages with tile ml•t!i;ehs •hkely to arise, would still feel disinclined to Far terfere with foreign property, so rested. At the same time that he could chew many vises, where the expediency of making no alteration t et. fisted, yet he woted not deny, that theft weite many instances In which, as the 11..0. Gentlentat had said, the perseverance in .thicussion tended to its final accomplishment. Such had happer,ad It the case of a Rill now before the Upper House, ("1 1 ` lading to the Slave Trade Abolition TAll) but In trusted, that, in the present instance, the Hoeft would a 2 with that wisdom and propriety whitiA it formerly displayed upon this important que.tiois The motion wits then put and can ied. Lord HENRY PE LTV again rose, and elute,. ed, that he had, upon a former week, moved an els journnient of the Debate upon the Financial Res, lutions, to next Wednesday, but in doing so, tit had not adverted that that day was Ash Wedne. day ; upon which, although the House sat, yet, would be thought an improper day for such an its portant discussion. Oa Thursday, some ballad were to take place, and on Friday there War 5 motion appointed. of considerable importance FA these reasons, he s!tentd therefore move, " That ttk! Debate, upon the Finances of the Country, be re turned on Monday next." •L'ha Ordar for resuming that Debate, en Weil nesday next, was a.:cordingly discharged, and ti7ei for Monday. Sir JOHN DOYLE moved, That there be It: before the Haase, a Return of the nurturer cif met for whom bounties have been charged, for enlist' ing at the heatl.quarters of regiments, in Gt:at Britain and Ireland, from the 25th of September the 31st of December, I soti."—Ordered. IRISH Eitcrium BILL. S:r JOHN' NEW PDX. r moved Use Commits:A the Irish Eleftion Bill. Col. BARRY rose and observed, that, as thif Bill interfered with the Mt of the Beth of Or King, as well as the Aft of Uni.in of the tora etol , meats, he begged leave to move, " That the C err mittee be empowered to precise a Clause, to Attu:, that Aet, and to dispense with the former repli dons, as t 3 entering into recogniaa.ites, and enkrti the time for doiiig so, from SWIMS to tlvrinV eight day;." The arise went into said entnrnittee,and a clause WWI proposed and a l ;oteJ to. litrivit E.irl TEMPLE mnved, TI• tr the Aft of clans Atm. c:J. 31. be staved MS I • -- I .n......... - ''' '.l/. to : 1 01 , 119 the roe r , into a 'Yer. snit. bringing le To , to South Meth On the tdt r ept , aS j the Cape s differtrk and ords 01 1 be ti t & punted. roprota TH] rtf. he tire, the Th_ s..iztzth. a a INst not the fega t from Lis Waive; limed fist* ds p ,;r.•:%! niL.nf 1, . A reap:v- 1 . 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