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of blaming Hercules?" So it was with the ejects of the Hon. Castleman's panegyric. They required not his commendation. No else accused them ; and he could not avoid repeating that it could only he intended to cast an imputation upon others. Air. S. RIVE denied that it had Leen his intention to coat any imputation upon the Hon. Cent.% ictegrity ; his only °bite. was, to peon from the Fien. Gent's declared sentiments chat there Lad teen wealue acts of violence committed against the poor ausi the de fence less. 7 .o lige. The question eras pot—whether justice was admipistereel between Protestant and Catholic ? he did net coosider it necessary at preeent me ester aponthe discussion of this question ; but hi t position was, deo die Wartime, of Ireland. as at present coosiltuted, vats act in a fit situation to be intrusted with the meek* and inordinate powers with whisk they were invested by this Act. He had beard bathing Soo Haat* side, which could induce him to alter his opitlion on title limmiom Mr. AjlfAßl,Nte feared that the llonourable Gentleman oppo site (IdrThightmtiliwould consider him presumptuous in doubting' Ilia memiieds we in the manner in which justice was administered le Mama • Considering the state a irritation which confessedly go lfed, sod tie violence orplielirg, he thought the impartial . a dministration of justice was isii . ht in Ireland. However able sa d Meet the Law 'Officers :Crown might be. they alone we* sot estmerned Mitt adminilesarion ; and be repeated, that keewlehohandirg the ability se4 ineegrity of the Law Offices, jus einoesioldalallh adatinistered is Inland. Honourable Gentlemen mod entembie the Alanchestd 'fiat, when the Coroner's Courts, lite kwood of wet Courts, could act come to a fair decision, and were tingered mtim loeffielent from the inenence of pasty feeling. In =of the rims, at the fullers/ of the lateVecen, the efforts e t: come at the mitts by the'midettee 6f tersons'pment, were gods ineffectual la consequence of the irritabstior of.party fbefulg. Me dodged whether Impernaljestiee could have been administered is few of the late VIM of protecutiotity the Attorney-General of kodoad. Be thought it impossible it could have'been *anti ' sistsrod,ia the case of the riot at She üblin Theatre, considering the violates of party feeling in Ireland at that period. Tile great abjectien teem mestere% of , Ministers with respect to Ireland was, that they bombe down coercive manure, tei restrain. but rot silly. Their duty wail to give Wto rit& their Sovereign; but . feelstead of thise they only brought down coercive Bilk coo y illigeChlal When M misters brought the measure now undordis. cession, they confessed it w'as a matter of necessity. There was truly one question, the decision upon which; could ensure the peace east kanquillity of Ireland. Be did not know how Ministers coald rechneile their conduct on this question, with their oaths as Privy Comacillots. Their wee seven Members of the Council at one side and ids at the other. They were bound by their oaths as Privy vooo:filers to give conscientious advice to his Majesty. Instead iaf this, they neglect altogether advising upon the only question, which can reconcile parties in Ireland. In foreign countries there was a total absence of all religious distinctions ; religious dietinc- Mons had been doe away in Holland. The necessity of abolishing religiose distinctions in Ireland seemed so self-evident, that he wondered how the commonest understanding, acting honestly, weld doubt it. While a real grievance, like that of ilk Penal Laws, existed in Ireland, every thing mischievous and disaffected :enacted around it. He could never support a memere like the present, which was admitted to be a temporary expedient, and ac. lenowledged to be ineffectual for securing the permanent peace and' tranquillity of Ireland. Mr. W. COUBTENAY said, he had always voted in favour of Me Catholic Claims, and in some degree acquiesced with the peti. I Miura, Om dye decision of this question was necessary for the pease of IMls ed. He did not support the Bill upon the individual saw obi* had been mentioned, neither did he support it on the rounds of what he was told the Catholic Association bad done, h se he supported it from the conviction that the existence of any each Association was incompatible with the security and tranquil hty of Ireland. Other associations would spring up if the Catholic Association was permitted to exist. The lion. Gentleman (Mr. Hering) said that a was impossible justice could he fairly adminis tered in Ireland ; but he (Mr. Courtenay) would ask, could any men think that justice could be more advantageously administered who Associations like the Catholic Association existed 1 If no step should be taken to put it down, the whole population would connect themselves either with Orange Associations or Catholic. Associations. Jurors and Magistrates must belong to one party or the other; and by such a connection they would become unfit for the Impartial execution of such duties. He sepported the present Bill, therefore, because he considered that the existence pf any Association, commanding such resources, and es-' ercising such an influence as the Catholic Association did, must be injurious to the peace and tranquillity of Ireland. He could not eh down without observing, that since the Bill was proposed, he had held some conscientious doubs whether he ought to support it. The claim which created these doubts, was that which empowered sole Magistrate to act, and he had the pleasure of mating that his Right Honourable Friend had pledged hmself to amend this objec tionable clause. (Hear, hear.) The Bill, therefore, should have h:s most cordial support. Mr. SYKES thought that the evil complained of might be punished by the existing laws. Money collected in churches or taverns, for purposes not legal, might be punished by the common law. And why pressed to enact a new law, when those which exiet were su ffi cient ? Though the Cabinet might be at sixes end soeens or. the Catholic Question, he did not suppose they were at sixes and invens oo the law. The history of Ireland was a history of penal enactment' ; under those circumstances he could not con scientiously tuppott the Bill, which he thought most objectionable la principle. Sir J . „NEW PORT entertained the highest respect for the parity et die Moomwebie Member for Exeter (Mr. Courknap) modem in tametim the BilL That Idoocumble Member, however, hod crii he mid that the Catholic Association would give birth to Orange Associations. Orange Associations existed before the Catholic Asociation was thought of. They had been de. IriKlated in that House, yet they were suffered to remain, and from their existence the Catholic Association had grown: it owed its origin to the errors of the Government. The Honourable Member for New Ross (Mr. Dogherty) had advocated the administration of jostice in Ireland. Ile had quoted caeca where justice war impar tially administered in the superior Courts: these were insulated uses; but it was notorious, that in a hundred instances, the poor and the o_ppressed had not the power of appealing to a superior Court. There was high authority for saying, that the Magistrates may not be trusted with the administration of the law,. The 'power of deciding upon Grand Jury levies, had been taken from them, end the Goveniment had established the system of Petty Sessions.' Were not these proofs that the Magistrates had used improperly and partially the powers with which they had been invested ? Lord Redemisle had said, when in Ire fend, " that there was one law for the rich and another for the peso:, and that both were equally bad." The Catholic Associa . two had done much good by furnishing the poor with means to enable them to go before the superior tribunals for justice. great benefit had been derived too from the apprehension of ex posure, which was general amongst corrupt Magistrates since the Catholic Association began to interfere for the poor. The Hon. Baru:et here produzed a letter., which he stated to have conic trom a most respectable Protestant gentleman hi the county of Waterford. Ile would read this letter with the permission of the H.n.se. (Hear e ) The Hon. Bart. then read the letter, in which the writer strongly declare his cp:nion that the Catholic Association pomeseed the confidence of the Catholic Body, and that the tran oodiity of the country would be at an end, if :t should he put down. No roan was more competent than the writer of that letter to form opinion on that subiect. He (Sir J. Newport) was not now dis posed to give his name, but he was sure that his judgment had been correct. The House was now about to pass tee Bill which had Leen so often canvassed ; but ri disposition had been that night shown, and that night for the first time, to moderate that Bill in some slight degree; for this mcderstion the country 'meld be principally iodebted to the Hcmourable Member for Limerick (Mr. S Rice). Mr. GOULBURN said, he would not trespass to any extent on tl.e. time of the House, but he thought it indispensabiy necessary to make a few *beet vatiuns in lolly to the objections that had been on that night, and many of then, on that night only, urged sgainst rise BilL It was due to the absent persons who had been attacked to the costae of the debate, that he should avail himself of this op. pommel:y e the last that woold offer, to make some remarks, for the porpose of placing them, in the opinions of the House, where they sought to stand. He would begin with the observations of the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir John Newport), who had said, that although the Government were making exertions to destroy the (le -11.046 Associvinn, are attempt had been made to put down the Ocarge Associations. He (Mr. Ootriburn) in the meat unqualified manner denied this. Be would all the attention of the House to the Ace:: of !TA which were directly I. veiled against the Orange As. sociations, and were intended to sole at their very root. But he uovld also call the attontion of the House to a very material differ s= hetweea the Orange end the Cptholic AlleeeiVani. The former navel. attempted to interfere, es the letter had done, with the ad. miaistration of justice—theo had never been charged with the acts which bad been charged ageowt the Roman Catholic Association— they had never endeevoured to inflnence the administration of just ti.x oo subjects of which they might have had cause of complaint. the Hon. Baronet bed also told the Howie that the people of Ire land were rot able to procure justice. If he meant that the poor could nut procure justice from the rich because of the laws, this lie (Mr. Ooulburn) 'mold distinctly deny ; but if the Hon. Baronet ✓eam merely that the poor indiridual laboured under difficulties in caltra-distincelon to the rich, though this point might be admit ted as a natural consequence., it did not in the least bear upon the otieeticn. The Hon. Baronet had also said, that the Magistrates cot Ireland were manifestly bed—test they frequently, in their admi. Mansion of justice, consulted their own interest's, and their own Muereeta only. He (Mr. Cloultsurn i would reef to the speech of the Hon. Member for Limerick (Mr. S. Rice) in contradiction to this observation of the Hon. Member, and would refer to that speech to prove that if the Magistrates did not do their duty, there was always &remedy to be had. Many instances might be quoted in which the poor had received dame from the rich !Highways. The Hon. Member for Limerick (M ges r. S. Rice) had that night stated his objections to the Bill, and stated them for the first time. lilt mein objection seas to the preamble of the Bill, and he says he hat not as much confidence in an Irish Act as in an Act of this country. flow long had this delicacy existed ? Surely not before Or. Hon. Gellman race down to the House, as he did a few eights ago, hien with _precedents from the Jourrals of the Irish Parliament . Parliament. flow could the Legfelneure of Ireland put aside Aete which were so necessary to he considered by them ? On the subject of the Association, he (Mr. bioulburn) would allude to whet had bra said by en eminent Irishman, Mr. Hardy. That gentleman had described it as Injurious in the highest degree, and es tending to all those evils which it was charged with a tendency to create. One pbjection of the Hointirable Member for Limerick was a note whin accompanied the Halo.* mere memorandum in the mnegui. lie (Mr. Goulburn) would not undertake to answer all objections on velum like this, for notes mightereep into a Bill, and be merely the ometructicia whieb those who read it might wish to put upon it, and THE BRITISH PRESS. in all its parts that he was desirous of Riving his strenuous oppose. t on. As to the serainienie et 31r. Hardy, than whom there was niot a more Honourable Member of the Irish Parliament, they alluded to • declaration which came from an assemblage of persons (we understood at Ath:nue), but it should be remtatbered, that the persons composing it were Protestants and Prsbyteriarts, and not Catholics. Besides, the Occurrences to which he alluded took place in troublesome times ; whereas, it was admitted, that Ireland was now in a state of progressive prosperity—a prosperity to which this Association, it had been adinutee, had mainly contributed. lie would recommend the Catholics, before this Bill passed into a law, to carry . an Address to the Throne, and beseech his Majesty rot to give his high sanction and authority to a Hill so fatal to the privileges of the people. It had been stated that in some parts of Ireland this measure had met with approbation : this was refuted by the general pouring in of petitions against it from all pans of the minty. It was now admitted that the Catholic Assn nation was that at which the present Bill principally aimed, Let it would be found to fail, it attempted to violate a great principle, it attempted to extinguish the force of public opinion, His Friend O'Connell and others might be prevented from meeting in a room together, but the cause to which they were attached could not be extinguished. The day of retribution would come. Look to the Netherlands, to Switzerland, and to America. Ile did not direct the attention of the House to them with a view of intimidation, but he took his stand upon the safe ground of polical knowledge and experience, when he adverted to the successful struggles to which an attachment to a great principle had carried the people of those commie'', it would be better for the Government in time to adopt some 'immure of conciliation. As to the foreign policy of this country—(Cries of question, question)--He approved partleularly of that part of it which related to South America; but he-observed that in the Army Estimates which were proposed, fifteen thousand men were about to be raised, five thousand of them were to be sent to India ; but the llouse was not informed of what wag to he done with the remaining ten. It showed, however, that some necessity at least existed for raising troops. Was such a time the period when the House were pre pared to shake the amideace and effectlon of the people of Ire land ? Ile saw nonecedaispat ell for raising these forces, but it was to be presumed Omemunent did. (The cries of " Question" became here eery general, and the latter observations of the Ho nourable Member, owing to the noire which prevailed, were not distinctly audible in the Gallery.) Mr. PEEL begged to assure the House, that at that late hour he 'would not trespass on its attention longer than the few observations he felt it his duty to address to it would render necessary. Ile was disposed readily to acquit the Hon. Member of any lie/talon of seriously terrifying by any thing that had fallen from him ' • he was also ready to acquit him of any intention of terrifying him perconally. Ile could assure the Him. Member, that it he (Mr. P.) believed such to be his intention, it was not in that House he would appeil to him. As to any alarm of Ministers losing their heads, or any apprehension from the pile of petitions with which they had been threatened on a former night, he need nut say, no real ground of Tear existed. He would not at that hour tellow the Hon. Member through the topics of foreign policy and the army estimates which he thought proper to obtrude on their at tention. Neither mullet he anticipate the discussion on the general measure of Emancipation, which way likely to come under their attention in a few evenings. On that subject his opinions had been deliberately formed. He hail no reason to regret or retract the part he had taken, and that he would continue to take on that ques tion. At the same time that the House would bear in mind, that he had not been opposed to all species of concession to the Catholics. Whea a Bid had been introduced into that House for the extension of some ptivileges to the Roman Catholics, he had supported it, and he now regretted that that measure had not been successful. The opinions he had taken upon this important question were entirely his owls : they . were espoused by him without any regent to party, and with a new to the general interests cf the empire. An observation had escaped a Right Honourable Gentleman (31r. Tierney) a few evenings since, which it was intended to apply, he thought, unfairly to him. His Right Honourable Friend the Auorney-General for Ireland, in describing the state in which Ireland was when the present Lord Lieutenant assumed the government of that country, had described her as a vessel which he had found upon the breakers. The Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Tierney) bad asked what would be IMr. Peel) say to that sentence who placed her in such a situation ? le denied that he had done so. Lord Wellesley entered upon the government of Ireland in 10211 he (Mr. Peel) did not immedi. ately precede him. At the vete same time did he (Mr. Peel) accept the otEze of Secretary for the bionic Department. It is —s true he had formerly tulltilled the oflim of Chief Secretary in be laid. but he had left it in the year 181 d, and he was not therefore recount able for the state of things in the year 1821. All he could say wee, that when he left Ire'st d, although he could not deny that some party ;mink existed, yet it was in a state of general tranquillity. rio violent proceedings of Associations then prevailed. Nor was there any angry exacerbation of party animosities. (Hear, hear.) At the time that the disturbances did break out, he believed no blame was imputable to any portion of the Government of Ireland. These disturbances, in a great degree, arose out of the distresses of the times, out of the sudden revulsion of things that then occurred ..the effect of the recurrence to rash payments, and the calamities consequent on the close of a protracted war, which were felt very heavily in this country, but which were telt in a very aggravated degree in Ireland. These were the causes which led to that tem porary disturberee of which Government was, lie believed, wholly innocent, and which Government could rot control. Before he sat deues ee tee was anxious of adverting to the speech of the Honour able and Learned Gentleman, the Mentber for NVinchelses, is reply to what bad fallen from him respecting a statement he had made concerning an individual—Mr. Haniilton Rowan. It would be fresh in the recollection of the House that in a former discus eon on this Bill, he had adverted to th e ' authenticated documents of the Association. To them only did be refer; and he even re queeted that he might be stopped if lie stated any thing in an ex aggerated or unfair manner. What he had remarked upon on that occ , mion was, the publication of an address to the people of Ireland on the very same day that a letter of thanks was voted to Mr. Rowan. The terms of the letter were—that the writer could not find language to convey the esteem in which the Association held the beloved and respected name of Mr. Hamilton Rowan, for the service lie had done his country. This letter, containing other encomiastic phrases on the character and conduct of Mr. Rowan, was signed by Mr. O'Gorman, Secretary to the Catholics of Ire land. All he said of these proceedings was (he believed he re membered the very words), was that the Act was equivocal—that it was at least indiscreet—and that it was calculated to excite sus hicion anti alarm as to the objects of the Association. (Hear, ear.) Now he (Mr. Peel) was somewhat surprised at the power ful speech of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, whom he always heard with great pleasure, and with great admiration of his talents; and after he hail heard his statement, lie was deter mined to become more accurately acquainted with the facts of that statement, before lie would undertake to contradict it—deter- mined to abardon a false position if he found he had taken up one--and determined also not to make an inglorious surrender of a right position if he found he had occupied it. (Hear, hear.) The letter which he had read expressed the gratitude for the de voted service of 11r. Rowan to his country, stud concluded by the expression that the esetuance of this gratitude was the sweetest re ward which could be either conveyed or received. On a former occasion he had stated 40 much of the history of 3lr. Rowan as to put the House in possession of his character. lie read to them an extract from &report of the Secret Committee of 1791, to show that he had been attainted of high treason, that he had acknowledged his connexion with an emissary of France, and that lie had acted and cm operated in all the designs of Jackson, who was tried and convicted of high treason, on whose trial circumstances transpired in evidence which implicated Mr. Rowan, and subjected him to a similar charge. Yet it had been asserted by the Honourable and Learned Gentleman that lie was received by the Lord Lieutenants of Ireland, and that he fdlel the office of Magistrate under what he termed the pink of loyalty, Lord Manners and Mr. Saurin. It had been also relied upon by the Honourable and Learned Gentle man, that he had not been put upon his defence on that charge,— that he had no: an opportunity of vindication. It happened that he was not tried, but the cause of his not having been tried on that charge was this:—He had been found guilty of publishing a sedi tious libel addressed to the I'nited Irishmen, an address adopted at a meeting of which Mr. Leeman was ehairmao, _and Mr. Rowan secretary. For this seditious libel lie was charged, convicted, and sentenced to tan yea& imprienament. Meanwhile, circumstances transpired which subjected him to the charge of high treason, but before the trial on this charge could take place, he fled the country. From that address lie would, with the permission of the House, read an extract:—" Citizen soldiers, you first took up arms to protect your country from foreign enemies and front domestic disturbance : for the same purpose it now becomes necessary thae_you should renithe them. A • proclamation has been issued in England for embodying the militia 3 and a proclamation has been issued by the Lord Lieutenant and Council in England. • • Citizen sol. diem, to arms ; take up the shield of freedom and the pledges of peace—peace, the motive and end of your virtuous institution-- war, an occasional duty, ought never to be made an occu pation. Every man should become a soldier in defence of his rights. No man ought to continue a soldier for offending the rights of others. The sacrifice of life in the service of our country is a duty much too honuarable its be entrusted to mercenaries, and at this time, when your country has been by public authority pro claimed in danger, we conjure you by your interest, your duty, and your glory, to stand to your anns, and in spite of a police—in spite of a fencible militia, it is only by the array of a force in whom the people confide—by a desire to preserve peace in your respective vicinages, that the present agitation can be stilled, the pre vailing licentiousness put down, and prosperity restored in the speedy resurrection of a free constitution." The Right Honour able Gentleman proceeded to read several passages from the address, which he contended to be of a highly inflammatory character, and he did not think that he exceeded the bounds of strict propriety and even moderation, when he said that such a letter, as lie had read, addressed to such a man, was at least via act of indiscretion, and was calculated to excite suspicion and alarm. Hear, lima) On the privatecharacter of Mr. Rowan lie did ten at all animadvert. As a father, a husband, and in the several rela tions of private life, he was said to be, and lie did not doubt that he was, deserving of the highest seeped.. But it was not in that capacity that he was addressed by the Catholic Association. They addressed him as a public man, in the character and capacity of a public body. (Hear, hear, hear.) Luckily, the persons to whom this eddiess. excising them to a civil commotion, was presented, did not obey it, and it failed in producing the mis chiefs which an observance of It must have heaped on the country. The Htmonrable Member for Wincholsea had stated, that Mr. Hamilton Rowan had been received in private life by persons of distinction ; there existed no Imputation against Mr. Rowan's private life, it was only with his public conduct they had to deal. and themost moderate language that could be held respecting that ' conduct was, that at best It had been very suspicicus. The Hon. Gentleman himself admitted Mr. Hamilton Rowaa's connexion with Jackson, who FaS implicated in treimnable Fr:acne:a ; he gives an account of the free pardon he had received from but * vereign. but lie naps them, sad emits all mention of the lenity of Lordelare towards hint, and the kind protection he hail extended to his wife and children when Mr. Rowan was ansent from the country. What hal born the language a Mr. H. Roman himself when be entered the Court of King's Bench to plead Ids Majeste's pardon ? He stated, that before be had left his country be b ad known bit Sovereign only by his acts of authority aril command, but that he had now to acknowledge the support and pretettion al - - fretted his deritute family during his absence. Ile owed his inn to his Sovereign's clemency, and if he abstained from pretensions, it was may lest his motive in making them might be misinterpreted, bitt he trusted his future life would bess explain what were the ten timenta *lbis breast, and atone for ilia past errors. Such had been the language of ale. H. Rowan, and the only remark he (Mr. Peel) should make was, that the nature of that address made him regret the part Mt. Rowan appeared since to have taken. The Honourable Member, in addition to his statement, respecting the reception of Mr. Rowan in private life, had gone on to ir.form the House, on the previous occasion to which lie had already alluded, that Mr. Rowan had been placed in one Magistrate's chair under the auspices of Lord Manners and Mr. Saurin. The Honourable Gentleman had stated this boldly, and he was sure if it would tura out that the statement was erroneous, it was at least unintentionally so on the part of the Ilonourable Member. However, he had stated it boldly, and he(Mr. Peel) had lately heard so many errone ous assertions with respect to facts and individuals, that, cur his part, he was unwilling to venture to contradict any statement however glaringly incorrect. Ile had, in the present intterce, mane inquiry in the quarter most likely to &Mod correct informa tion on the subject, and had that day received the document which he now held in his hand, from the Ilanaper Office in Dublin. It sung!, that search having been made in the official records, it was thereby ascertained that Mr. A. 11. Rowan had not been in the commission of the peace during the Wit twenty year.. ( Loud and protracted Cheers.) He thought the liouseameld be satisfied with this information, and allow that he had dashed the poisoned chalice from the bonds of the lion. Member, which he bad commended to his lips. The lion. Member sat down amid loud cheers. Mr. BROUG lIA3I would trouble the House with a few words in answer to what had been advanced by the Right Hon. Secretary who had just sat down ; and, in the first niece nothing could I* more perfectly different from the Hon. Member's speech upon a former evening, than his own version of it to-night. In w, nide could be able to recognise the tenor of that speech in the lion. Member's repetition of it. But in his (Mr. Brougham's) memory, there dwelt a recollection of the wordy and sentiments uttered by the Right Hon. Secretary on that occasion, and from that recoln lection he was free to say, they were totally unlike, and distinct from, the moderate tone adopted in his speech of this night. No two things could be more unlike. On the former evening the Right lion. Secretary had asked if it was at all meant to defend an As sociation which, to its other rash and illegal acts, had added the ad ditional error of addressing, in a respectful tone, an interned mime ? Those were the wordsof the Hight Hon. Secretary and he appealed to the calmer and more dispassionate part of that House, who neither sat here nor there, on his side or that sidelof the Hon. Secretary--and he would add, he appealed to the better feeling of the Hon. Geetle. man himself, after the lapse of one week, whether these were words to be uttered with impunity, and permitted to pass without contra diction, when applied to an Indiv,dual who hail not been convicts] by a tribunal of his country ? (Hear.) Were such worms to be uttered within these walls, and in the face of the country, and was it not right that a contradiction to them should go forth with an equal degree of publicity ? Let the Hon. Secretary imagine himself for a moment in the situation of the gallant son of that calumniated man, and what would be his feelings at hearing his parent branded and denounced as an attainted traitor ? These were the expressions which he wag not ashamed to say, had ex cited his (Mr. Brougham's) feelings of indignation at the time, and he had stood up in his place to defend Hamilton Rowan from such an imputation—from that defence he would not now shrink. Ile had defended the Catholic Association, who were charged with having communicated in respectful and friendly terms with this attainted traitor—neither would heshrink from that defence. And as nothing of the harshness of the original charge had been abet td except the tone of it, he was now going again to enter upon the defence of Hamilton Rowan and the Catholic Association. He would pass over much of the detail of the transaction; it had been admitted that Mr. Rowan was not tried on a charge of treason ; but if he was not, Mr. Jackson bad been, and said, the Honour able Gentleman, Mr. ilowan was implicated in some of the facts which transpired on the trial of another party. It was wholly unnecessary to say any thing of such an inference—he would leave it as he found it, without remark. But, said the Honourable Secretary, Mr. Rowan has been tried. For what had he been tried ? Was it for felony ? Was it fur treason ? Or, was it not rather for such a constructive crime as any honourable and patriotic man might under similar eircum 'tames hare committed, and committed without feeling either shame or regret ? Mr. Rowan had been tried for a libel ; and, if the Catholic Association have put forth an address to a man who is accused of a crime which any virtuous man might have been accused of blamelessly, are they to be stigmatized in in such language as that adopted by his 31ajesty'a Secretary for the Home Department? If the Catholics have erred, in looking with respect upon such an individual at the time of his conviction, they do not appear to have profited by the experience of 31 years so as to americt that error, for they have this Session selected, as the ad vocate of their claims, an Honourable Baronet, who, in peaceable and settled times, was coevicted of w seditious libel, and sentenced to imprisonment upon the very banks of the river that washes these walls. (Hear.) For his part, looting to the circumstances of the time and the country, and looking to the terms of the alleged libel, he (31r. Broughaiu) would not have cared to have set his hand to it. What were the sentiments of the libel ? Hamilton Rowan had called upon the people to arm in defence of their country ; and if he had meant to advise them not to stop there, but after they had repelled the foreign invader from their shores to secure the posses sion of constitutional liberty, he had only done what P a rliament had done itself. And had not the Irish Parliament stied as it did on the occasion to which he alluded, it was hie opinion Ireland would not now be a part of this ern pire. Let the House bear in its recollection that tnese were troublous times in which this man lived—times in which the name of an individual, now never mentioned bat with respect and veneration, did not wholly escape imputation. lie alluded to the late Mr. Grattan. The name of that great and respected character was not safe horn similar charges to those which had been made against Mr. Rowan—accusatious were made—the Privy Council deliberated—and it was only by a temporary absence that he had I escaped the danger. Another part of the charge was capable of being met in another manner. Mr. O'Gorman, whose signature appeared attached to the Address, wet not a Member of the Ca tholic Association. But in what manner had the Honourable Secretary stated the case of Mr. Rowan's trial 'r He commenced by reading ifs attainder, and concludes with the accused's con fession of gratitude for his Majesty's free pardon, and the kind trcatmeut of his unprotected family. And, gracious God ! was I the House to be told that the only use of the Royal mercy was to make it serve to round a period, and point a sarcasm against par ties whom it might be the interest of Gentlemen at the other side of the Horse to vituperate and decry? Above all, was the King's mercy itself to be outraged by denouncing the object of it as an attainted traitor? The Honourable Gentleman has stated, that Mr. Rowan was received into private society of a dignified charac ter, on account of his private virtues and without reference to his public conduct. His (Mr. Brougham's) statement had been rand it I remained uncontradicted) that Hamilton Rowan was received pub licly at the levee of the Chief Governor of the country. Another statement of his had been, and at the time he had no more reason to doubt its correctness than the Honourable Secretary himself appeared to have, that Mr. Rowan was in the Commission of the Peace. The fact had been so represented to him on what he then considered, and still continued to consider, very good authority. however it might have fallen into error in the present instance. He had stated the circumstance on the authority of a gentleman from the sister country; he could, of course, himself have no knowledge of the facts, and had been perfectly ignorant of them till within a few minutes of hit addressing the House. The mistake, for a mistake he believed it was, appeared to have originated in his informant having seen the signature of Archibald Hamilton Rowan subscribed to a loyal address of a particular nature, which, from the tenor of its wording, be thought extremely likely to lead a wain, better informed upon the subject than he could pretend to be, into error. The document purported to be, " the Address of the under signed, being Magistrates, and Grand Jurors of the County of Down." Nothing could be more likely to occasion a mistake than a document such as that; and though some Gentlemen might be disposed to construe the "and" in a disjunctive sense, it certainly was capable of receiving the other interpretation. He thought be heard some Honourable Member cry " Question." He assured the Gentleman, whoever he might be, that he alight betake hint. self again to the repose from which be had been probably aroused, but it was his (Mr. Brougham's) intention to proceed in his course in spite of the lion. Gentleman's interruption. (Loud cheers.) Many errors had (wept into documents in public offices. It was answered that Mr. H. Rowan was not in the Commission of the Peace. lie had mentioned it on the authority of three witnesses, who were as credible, perhaps, as a Return from the Ilanaper Gabe. He therefore stood acquitted of any misstatement. (Hear, hear.) How else could he have acted than believe and repeat it with positiveness r But remove altogether from his statement the part of Mr. Hamilton Rowan's being a Magistrate, —remove that from his statement, and still his defence rentained impregnable. (Hear, hear.) Ile was granted a free pardon,—was that nothing ? Ile was restored to his freedom as a subject.—was that nothing ? (Cheers.) He was raised to the dignity of a eiteristrat 2, aye, and of Grand Juror, too—was not that any thing ? (Continued cheers.) He had had entrusted to him the preservation of the King's pe . acc,— he m igh t have been engaged in accusing, committing, and trying for any offence, even for high treason,—war that nothing? (Cheers.) He had been taken into fainter and respect by one Lord Lieutenant after another ; and he could now read to the House a letter from one of those high and respected individuals. the Duke of Bedford. (Chairs.) Was it likely such a man could be favourable to the pro psgation of treason? He would respect his opinion more than that ordain: who mule themselves (as they called it) the defenders of dim' Altar and the Constitution. (Hear.) It was more reasonable to rely on him who had a personal, as well as hereditary title to re spect. There was nothing so valuable as the authority of men who had a deep stake in the country, who were of high personal cha racter ; the opinion of such persons wits s truer test of loyalty than any that could be brought forwent on the other aide. The Duke o f' Bedford's letter rao thus:—" the first official act of mine on going to Ireland was to recommend to his Majesty to grant a free pardon to Mr. Hamilton Rowan. (Cheers.) A more honour , able or rota...rattle gentleman there does not exist in all Ire land." (Continued cheers.) The charge against the Association then re so lved itself to this—eddressing as they did, a man whoni SfINCS. t:adic Baba& . Barcelona Mlle . liibraltaz - a Lord Lieunitant describes as Fosse. s . ng as mt - ch respectability RS any of his 31rjcs:y's 'tl' Ity ti.cal ahouhl nut I t have a tight to complain ? lie had been hounded asa Thia had been done in the the teeth of a free ender,. He was bearded*. a tro tor on whom the Sovereign smiled, anal whose mi ster s now forward, and charge the Assodation for their addressing him trim iitteroled and had been received too by the Sovereign et his levee, with his Ministers agent him. No living being could charge the - Associat:on with being irdiacteet for hokiirg intercourse with Ha milton Rowan. Nothing scald he more mown ssuy Hsu the at tack 00 that gentleman ; he envied net those that made it—be en. vied not those who coukl unneerssarily aril uncalled-for wound that individual—and siol lees did he envy those who had attacked Uss Association. He would text advert to the charge against Baron 31. - Clelland. He still believed thee former statement ; he bad a co muuniattion with the gentleman who was Counsel in that case. That wee presented two views--.firstly, the charge, was apetitic ; secondly, the denial general and argumentative. Ile (Mr. B.) had been charged with usicg strong and ton abodes lAA .guage. His language, he lilt, was not top *iron or abusive. Ile it was not that tunic the charge originally ; had cited for it high &ILI o ity, that of an Hod. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Martin), it was not his (Mr. Brougham's) statement— " Non meus hic ammo sed queen preetpit et folio', Rusticus, aboormia cras.ceque ilinervie." (Cheers and laughter.) Artt what was the fact P A gentleman, two yen,' ago. presented a petition to that House, charging Baron 11 1 Clelland with a malversation of justice, and praying to be beard at the bar of the House by Counsel in support of hie charge. IVith that (same hint he saw no reason to retract what he had said. In conclusion, he entreated the Horse, to pause behamittook that step, which it might lor,g, too long, deplore asthe greareet nil. He de. ounced it as the harbinger of evil, and as the death-blow of that short reign of tranquillity, brought about Ey ele Anode:ion. (Cheers.) In that view of the case, lie was strengthened. not wakened, by what he had heard front the ovosite aide ; he c njured the House, before it took that last step, to pause, white pause it might, (Cheers.) The Bill abcut to be paned, if pass irdid, was not against tile Orangemen but the Catholics, and the Catho lics only. He had hoped, that tho ug h the slititAnCe of justice was withheld, that ri.l they would have the sernblante; it was the Catholics only who were prohibited from meeting. (No, no, from the Ministerial Benches.) Yes, it was the Catholics, he would r:. peat it, and prove it, too, that the Catholics alone were to be put down. What did the Bill say P '• No persons are to meet to pe. tition for redress of grievances, or for a change in the Constitution." Who ever heard of an Orangeman mating to petition foe redress of grievar.cee. (Cheers.) Whoever heard of their praying for any alteration in the Constitution P Who WAS so mail as to think then, otherwise than exd, that thing. should shy as they Were, the. was their interest; alteration would be fatal to them. (Continued cheers.) The Bill to the Catholics was a double-edged sword, against Ott Urangeinen single-edged; it p -ohibits in both secret atm.. i:iga—it prevents the Catholics alone from having open meeders— it WAS under a mask, double-edged, against the Catholics. 'l'l4 Orsngemen may meet openly—they may have their Partiaseseg, rm. sided they meet not to alter. Bin was au Ora - geman to meet lot stidt a purpose ?—they wish not for alteration. He prayed the House, ea it valued even.handcd justice, to pause. if it acre his last prayer he would conjure them, if they paned the Bill against the Catho lics—if they imposed on then, that rtmedylen and grievous ' justice--if they closed the door of conciliation---if they " shut the gates of mercy" on the Catholies--(lcud cheers)—he would im plore that on next Tuesday they would recollect what they Lei done that night. (Loud cheers.) Thin he conjured them to do. if they were not dead to the voice of jus lea I f that fa:al *tap be to-night taken, he implored them to give, as an act of justice—Oa give to the Catholics Emancipation.—(Thu Hon. Gentleman sat down amidst loud cheers, which continued for some minute:.) Mr. PEEL rose midst cries of " Question." He aid he rn. asserted many things that had before fallen frem him. (Cheers.) 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To conclude with (fur this night and hrst time at this Thaetrai the Farr• of THE IRtitt PM. ‘NTWR ; Or, TIIF. \I)V AN!) THE LAWYF.R. Terence Oletsack, Mr. Power Frank, Mr.W. H.Williasail; Leap Auguste, Mhis S. Bot,th. ; not be placed there by those who sought to make the law. But, said the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. S. Rice), the Orange Associa tion are allowed to proceed, and no one comes forward to arrest their steps. Was it fair in that lionentrable Gentleman to make such a charge against the Government--a charge of wishing to sup. press the one. and of allowing the other to flourish—a charge of partiality which was most foreign to them ? Another objection to the Dill was, that it permitted one Magistrate to act under It, in stead of two or tnore ; and this, it wss contended, was an unpre cedented act. The Honourable Gentleman who made this objec tion, and the Rouse should recollect, that the Act professed to be only as anisedment on the Convention Act of 179 - 2. The same powers were given to Magistrates by that Act; there was then at least i_precedent for so doing. But by the Convention, cot only every Jostice of the Peace, but every peace officer, was empowered to enter a house and disperse an assembly—by this Bill such power was taken from the peace o ffi cer and confined to that class of persons whose station, of life guaranteed for them that they would not inter fere unnecessarily, and in them the powers might be safely confided. if the Bill, however, were found too severe in any of its clauses. he (Mr. Goullitirti) rats ready and willing to admit any atnendments that Would not destroy Its *frees, and he begged to remind the tieatlemen of the House of Commons, that it was their duty to propose such amendments, if they thought them nocev e - y. With respect to the tither parts of the speech of the Honourable Member for Limerick, they had been so ably replied to by another libnout able Member (Mr. Dogherty) that he (Mr. Goulbern) felt it unnecessary to notice it further. He was anxious. however, to allude to one particulebranch of the subject that had been treated of in the course of the debate. The Irish Government had been charged with not using sufficient promptness in removing a ma. gistrate against whom a verdict had been found ; ,he alluded to the case of Lawrence Dempster. The opinion of the dudge who tried that case had been taken by the Chancellor as to whether he was called upon to interfere, and the Judge had stated that it was not. On this opidion the Chancellor had acted ; but the Chancellor, in Other cases that had occurred, had bad no hesitation in removing the parties against whom verdicts had been found. It was now no minee for him (Mr. Goulburn) tO allude to the amertioris that had been thrown out against a learned Irish Judge, Baron VOL-Hand. He wished that that Learited Baron were present to retitle the charges that had been made against him, and to correct-the mis statements that had been made to the Rouse by an Honourable and Learned Gentleman on the other tide of the house, and which he (Mr. GOelhtern) asserted, were altogether void of foundation. The Learned Illember(Mr. brougham) had charged that Judge with acting unjustly, in preventing a question from being answered by a witness on a trial for murder. The question to the witness was— ". Why did you not before this give the evidence you were now giving ?" On this subject he (Mr. Goulburn) had had a communi cation with the Learned Judge; he would not trouble the House with the whole of the evidence on the trial, but confine himself men ly tO the case in point. There were four Counsel engaged for the.prosecutioo on that trial—Messrs. Gilmore, Ford, 011 - anion, and another. Ile had ascertained from the two former of those gentlemen that no great question was ever objected to, arid that no teach question was ever asked ; and he had received the same assurance from the Learned Judge. " The whole charge," says the Learned Baron, " of my having objected to allow a question to be answered, is altogether without foundation." (Hear, hear.) Again the Judge on the trial alluded to delivered a most elabo rate charge to the Jury ; so much so, that Mr. O'llanlon, one of the Counsel for the prosecution, remarked to a gentleman near him, " I wonder why his Lordship takes so much trouble when the case is so clear." The House had, therefore, the testimony of the Judge, the Counsel Tor the prosecution, and also of a third person. Who then doubted that the charge against the Judge is without foundation ? The Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) ought to have been better informed on the subject before he had brovght forward the charge. Mr. BROUGHAM—My information came from one of the Counsel for the prosecution. Mr. GOULBU RN continued—Another cherge wu made against the same Learned Baron, that in a cause he had refused to allow a Counsel to be sent for, and that when the Counsel did come, he re fused to allow him to proceed. On this subject, he (Mr. Goul burn) had better read the Learned Barons' own words:—" As to this charge," he observed, " as 1 am net furnished with the name of it. I cannot refer to my note book for evidence; but I dis tinctly soy, that I have no recollection of any such circumstance occurring, and T am confident it never did—such an act as that with which I am charged would be in direct variance with' the whole tenor of my life. I have always conducted myself with courtesy towards the Gentlemen of the Bar ; but it 'some times happens that Gentlemen are engaged bath in the Crown and Civil Courts, and when they are occupied in the one they rest some friend to officiate for them in the other. When such a cur. cumstanee occurs. I never object to the gentleman returning to take his place, and frequently rend over my notes to enable him to cross-examine a witness." He (Mr. Goulburn) wee sure that no Honourable Member would consider that the charge had been made out against the Judge: but if the name of the came were given, lie would pledge himself to provide a satisfactory answer. He would ask, then, the Honourable and Leartied Gentleman (lie. Brougham) if lie did not feel regret for having employed his great talents in drawing the picture he had drawn, and in making charges which were totally disproved. Was he justified in calling this Learned Judge half tiger. and half some other animal, which he (Mr. 0.) did not now recollect. He then denied, and he still de nied, that those charges had any foundation ; and every one, he was sure, who knew the Learned Judge, would cgree with him in this opirion. Mr. DENMAN said, that he Mt It neeetsary to reply to some of the observations that had fallen from the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Goulbuni). He (Mr. Denman) had waited long, but with much impatience, to hear some defence of the Learned Judge against whom certain charges had been made. Only two cases had been brought forward against him—the one was a case of a soldier who had been charged with administering unbelted oaths, the other that of a person who was tried for murder. lie (Mr. Denman) was not at all satisfied with the explanations that had been given by the Right Hon. Gentleman who had been imitnic3ed by the Learned Judge to put in his plea of Not Guilty. He (Mr. Denman) and his friends had received their information from authority as Rood, if it were not so high, and from one alto was as well entitled to credit. The denial of the charge was just such a one as was always made. And if the name of the other case were mentioned, the Irish Secretary would no doubt disprove the charge, in the same manner, and by the same authority, as he had disproved the other. But if the assertions of the Learned Judge were to be taken, how much more was the house bound to take the evidence of the Ca. tholic Association ? They did not rely on statements that were published, but they challenged inquiry ; that inquiry had been re fused • their guilt had been taken for granted, and they had been denim; 'even a hearing. Ile (Mr. Denman) would say, that the duty of the House had been to hear those arguments and that evi dence at the bar of the House, which, with a very great hardihood, they refused to hear. He was St a lose to conceive a reason why they should not have been heard. lie rejoiced to see how easily the Bill could be evaded. The House might have procured a re medy for all evils, by acquiring and deserving the confi dence of the Irish people, for that confidence would be always given to those, whether in Ireland or in England, who deserved it. The policy adopted by the Irish Goremment towards the Catholic population, exemplified the fable of the wolf and the lamb; they blamed it for alleged faults which the Association lied never corn. mitted. The Catholic Association did not exist in 1822. and yet the Resolutions respecting Church property were entertained and discussed. These Resolutions, therefore, had nothing to do with the present Bill against the Association, and it was unfair to eats. blieh a connexion between them. It was not right therefore to turn round upon the Association now, and say that their prayer ' could cot be acceded to until these measures were got rid of. The truth was, it would not be granted until the question had ceased to be one of a truckling amongst parties. The expectations held out by the Ministry should be fulfilled by a corresponding sin- verity on their parts; otherwise it was in vain to expect for tran quillity and content in that country. It wss not by . the adop. lion of the suggestion of a gallant Admiral, by sinking the country for twenty-four hours under water, that peace would be established or tranquillity restored. A sacrifice of the posses sion of power to the adherence of principle, should be made before that measure could be carried. It had been said by the Right ho. courable Secretary for Foreign Atrairs, on the first night of the Session, that if his Honourable and Learned Friend (Mr. B.) succeeded in getting rid of him, be would not succeed him. Now he and his Honourable Friend had long since given up all notion of that alternative. (Hear, hear, from Mr. Brougham.) But that was no reason why 136 and they should hesitate, as Engliehmen and Members of Parliament, to express thew:elves strong] y against • 841 which was about to be adopted without inquiry, with rash and precipitate have, and without the due observance of any well. established rule of login/snow. It was not a question of party— and they who, like die Right Honourable Attorney-General fur Ireland, thought it was a measure essential for the welfare of the empire, and that the delay of it for even an hour was dangerous, should rather retire from ofilee than remain Members of an Admi nistration o d ic': refused to carry it. They would do so with un tainted honour ; thottgh they might fail they could not be dis graced. They would have not only the approbetion of their own consciences ; but the approbation of their country, and of man kind, and the approving voice also of posterity. (Hear, hear.) Mr. FORD bore testimony to the administration of justice in the part of the country with which he was connected. The Learn ed Judge (Baron el`Clellaed) whose conduct had been arraigned, was as upright a Judge as any in Ireland. As to the Catholic As. sociation a general opinion prevailed in the part of the country . to which he belonged, that it ought to be put down. This opinion was entertained not only by those who were hostile to the measure of Emancipation generally, but even of Protestants who were favourable to their claims. (Hear, hear.) Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON rose amid cries of "Question, question." lie could assure the House that he did not rise for the purpose of arraigning either the Judges or the Government. ( !mud cries of "Question, question," were here again renewed, which continued for several minutes.) I will not (said Mr. H.) submit to be put down by an attempt of this kind. Ido not ask too much in requiring to be fairly heard, after Gentlemen on the other side have been permitted such latitude, and been heard with patience on every topic, however inappropriate, which they may have thought proper to introduce. It may not be acceptable to some to hear the sentiments of one who dares to be honest in the worst of times; but I shall not surrender the privilege that belongs to the station I now occupy to say what I please, and i shaft be only more tedious by the repetition of such an attempt ae has just been made to interrupt me." lie wasanxioun to avail himself of the last opportunity that should ofrer, to protest against this enormous Bill, and the dangerous power, a power unknown before to the spirit of the constitution, to obtrude into peaceable assemblies and disperse them. As to the amendment of his Honourable Friend (Mr. S. Rice,) he felt less anxious to support is from an unwillingness to make soy attempt to patch tip thin abominable measure. It was to the Bill generally t OP • t F