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TMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS—Morxer, luxe eN The hidges atteaded, artJ Cypairi Erre %Karel is tl4 rail' et 111114....1.1 crowford. Serjeant Sit er bits. u argued et great leu7.lh oe the part err the Appellant, when the farther proceedit3g4 were poet paned till iVedaraday at leo Welo.it, The to Million Exchequer Buda 1401, the Sinith Whaler Fishery Bill, and the fialk Duty Btu were read a thud tine and passed. T:3l. Cinque Ports Bill, the Breed Potda:.• Bill, the Hop 11.3 r Bill, the t'oniatiationers* .Ileetine lint, rhi Irish and riutrh Spir.l Couutel veiling Duty BilL, .:ad the il'esuakiot, las at 18111 were read a second time. be CJOrt. Cestenwe and the Coffee Excise Bills, the Irish Treasury 5 , 1, Rut: tie- Sitmi Duty Bill, passed through Corsuotteeh 41311 were reported without any amendment. • Pei, len from the Clergy of the County of Suflulk, and soother (rose the Mono and Chapter of Earl. pitl34 that the Curate's Stipeailiary Bill might not pal. into a law, were presented, and nedered to b • laid ti p.m the table. APPROPRIATION BILL. The Earl of LAVOLannt.edeeineil it very extra ordinary that the cuoary granted to the view Col lege should not have come up to that house in a .separate Bill, and not in the general Appropria tion Ifia. Higeonaidered the mode of incorporm tin; such greats n. iai. B►ll, UF an innovation upon the rights of that finoie. and what iris *bill more• unprecedented. it contained n grant of a million and a halt' to the East India Company. Non if their I.ordshipsshould give their orient to the Bill, 'main so enormous ■ grant of the public Money, they would do so, he contended, without any in formation whatever, upon which they could term a judgment whet!). r, they were doing that which w a s right. His Lordship then pointed out the mystery• of that information afforded the House, respecting this g rant ; after which lie named, " That a Mrs. angels.. sent to the House of Commons, requesting there he laid before their Lordships the Report of the Select Committee relating to the Adair* of lochs." The Earl of Soren t and, that it was a subject of great ;snort:Lace, and that the Affairs of the East 1 ,din Company ought to bit inquired into; anti such wits their iiiimagtinent, that he believed it would be better for this country that the East India Company lose their i toasessiona in that quar ter of the globe altogether, anti it might be desira ble tbgt such en event should happen soon, tether that increase our grants of large sums of the pub lic money. Lord Ilawirsaver contended, that in respect to the grant wade to Muynorah College, nothing had been Ii toe upon this occasion , taut what the legislature read done with regard to Bremer giants of this ovule to the same College. When the last grant was voted by the House of Commons, it was incorronve.. in the Appropistion Aet, and if there was no notection at that time, be did nut perceive is by it chould hare been included in a se parate bilt at this true. 'lase principle of not in .eluding in inch a hill, such grants as might have a tendency to cause their Lordships' dissent to the Bill altogether, was one which ought t., ise attended to, and nil heeu considered in Mr. iealmer's case. The grant mottle to the East India Company, was in respect to wh it was due to them. lie should not cuter at largo into tile merits of the observe. hens made by a Nob:* Earl (Suffolk) whether we had not better be depnved of these possessions al together. but he should not give his meant to the 'notion now before t:ie House. Lord 1-I,ii.Lariv did not wish tb protract the pre sent discussion on account of his great esteem for a Rev. Prelate (Bishop of London) who was an-- ion. for the order of the day being taken into con sideration. but he must obwrve, that if the House acre thus to be twitted. if they acre thus to pro ceed without necessary information, they had better shut their doors at once than he degraded im-the public estimation. After some further observations from the Earl of LAUDERDAILIP in reply, the motion was negatived without a division. The Earl of Bilcatanwtmantat, previous to their Lordships entering into uuy diseuwion upon the Curate's Stipendiary Bill, moved, Thst a 'blurt' be made of all the Benefices in the king dom of 40U1. and upwards, distinguishing those where the inruinlistit was not resident either three months at one tinge, or four months at separate times." Lord H tesorrav opposed the motion, as it then stood, and proposed an amendment, le a vi ng n u t the word. ilistinftui4hing those," and in that ebtirhe had nu inclination to oppose the motion. he rt a. HiststiOr of CANIAIIBOIIIr represented Its real diflknity which would attend any at tellipt to gain the drAired informatina. Viscount SID7401:1“ expressed his concurrence in the motion as prorsowil by the Noble Earl (Backingliamsliire) ; after whit+ the House di- Cmtnb ProO.Ciallats 16 'North against the modes CURATE:: STIPEVIMART RILL. The Bum°, of Lou Des rose, cud stated that he tnisted the }louse would aNt use any omission he alight sake iu delivering' his fenaitheitts ; for he felt the pressurr of great acr, end bodily infirmity. It would I:eromt: !inn in the best winner he could to Kivu to the /louse the reo.ons which had Ird to the intro du: sou of the pre-eht and then to give a deocription of the provisi ons contained thirrrin. Their Lordships scold take into consideration that evils had arisen in the elinrch oa ut:comit of the noir.residrime of its clergy. it vas warren machoq prayers and preach jog nu a Sunday which funned the chief fatietioa of a eler t ryunsii. Residence amongst the people of o parish. visiting thew frequently, praying a ith and rxnufortiug the sick, instructing the4oofoot, en couraging the tivenous, reproving the valuta* cu tee:doing- the chiklren, cud superintending the itehools instituti4for their eilinsition, were duties which more, irhttiErlintt ly brkinged to tie- virtue ~r a ch.... u tast., a.Ja more the cause of re-I . e.:um. Vatt tu accomplish thla por pods• it was necessary to resort to the means pro vided he Ibt• pry •I: B:li, a lir 11 was UM Mare 61111 to tike frma Close !iri dud roiritim 4 , sithaateri•T Co:. the curJl.• 11 , 1;.t•rforaird the a ln In of the iieev...e fie• which the . 1i at fir.t 4 . rant . To Ix -dorm , the sevral 11.1iirs in Li sacutto.ied, It 545 1:4 1 .:1% prwerr that 113 C residc.it cleigyman should possess that degree of property which would etiabie him to appear with respecta bility, and have wherewith to relieve, o n particul a r occasions, the distresses of his indigent parishi oners. 'file introduction of this therefore, became elesilutely necessary for the welfare of the people, and the true interests of the Christian religion. Ah Act pe -seri iu the 36th year of the present reign, granting to tile citrate 751. per annum, and the parsonage-house, iu case of the incumbents non-residence, or 151. in lieu thereof if he did reside; but, if their Lord ships would recollect the high price of the necessaries of life. if they would reflect that cu rates in general were men of mete and literature, that they had been accuetotued to support a decent appearance in the world, that they had been brought tip at the University, mid then, if they would also consider, that massy of them had a wife, and seven or eight children, whom they were oldigt4l to maintain out of so small a salary, he submitted to the.r opinion, that the bit uat ion of melt a citrate was absolute beggary. if he were disposed to take up their Lordship's time, he had it in his power to ponrtray such secure of distrees amongst poor curate*, as would make a deep and sac lanrholy unpreesion upon their minds. The present measure went to provide a proper person to testicle in those parishes which were deserted by their incteu brute, where the living amounted to 4001. and ttp wands', and to allow, out of that income, one-fifth for the support of tbut person, so appointed, to d o the duty. Them were inauy benefices of 1,0001. 2,0001, and some of 3,0001. a-year, but this provi- Rion of one-fifth was adopted only till it amounted to 2501. a year. Now it hail been said by a Noble Lord, (we presume the Earl of LAVDSILDAI.I6) that the principle of this Bill wits a riolatiou of priestte property, and an innovation upon the erclesias tical establishment; but. it we considered what had been done by the Legislature in the ueth rear of Queen Ana, such 36th of the present King, we should Ise couviuced that such interference was not unprecedented. He considered that the living of every opened...in seas conditional, and the canons of the church, and various couventions, clearly chewed that it was according to the ecclesiastical law, that bishops bad u right to interfere with the whole living, by taking it from the incumbent who negleeted to perform his (boy, and granting it to another tinder their own appotntinent. This right of the bishops' luterference had continued in unison with the ecclesiastical and ttattne law, from the time of Edward the Thiel, clowii to the present hour—a period of five hundred yearn. Another observation had hero made by the same Noble Peer, and it contained a very raise and serious charge, alleging that the Isis) is already had too much rooter, and that they lent been guilty of abuse in the exercise thereof. Ile trusted that no one would presume to attack a whole pro- Poti on , wit lowa giving proof of his aesertiou. Ile should not believe the accusation. if it were not supported by sutticieut proof, and he thought it would be difficult to produce any satisfactory tes tiinotiy. At the same time he was anxious to better the situation of the citrates of this kingdom, the' bent-iced decree would do hint the justice to ac knowledge that' he had, no a former omission, been as solicitous for their interest ; and he did thiblr that the success of that Bill, whicti increased the brings of the clergy of London, was accelerated by his exertions. and he had received their thanks for his conduct in respect to that ineseure ; thus far he was induced to speak of his owls services. but from no other witive than to jus tify Ids conduct upon this occasion. With confi dence be felt himself disposal to leave the pre sent Bill to the due immoderation and wisdom of that House, as their Lordshios wmilil duly estimate importance u necessary to support the beat interests of. religion. The Earl of Motu considered the arguments -alleged by the Rev. Prelate, in respect to proceed ing upon this. measure, merely because the Legie lature interfering nn a former occasion, in 1796, as dangerous to the. rights of the Church. He did view this me.urnre in a different light from that Re verend Prelate, at the same tine he vetterated him for his learning, and the good he had done the country. But, paying him that homage which was due to him from every Peer of that House, he (the Noble Earl) could not reconcile the principles of the Bill to his approbation. It was a violation of private property, and it was to he defended on this ground, that a part of the reetor's income had been apportioned to the curate on a former occasion. Why then,et a future, timeamother Bill might be introduce ed, founded upon the present. to appropriate the whole of the incumbents' living ! Even the Actor 1796, in his mind, had been the causeof considerable hardship; there were livings as low as mol. a-year, and vet 751 out of that must be paid to the officiitt ins/ rstore. lie felt as much as say man for the distressed situation 9f poor curates; but while ne attended to their relief, we should he reunions of doing itsjury to another clam of the sense profes sion. There was a dignity and respectable ap pearance to be kept up on title [wart, e, consistent their situation of life, their mode ofilving, sad the character of hospitality which they mast sup port in their parish. He was averse to the principle of the Bill, and certainly should give Isis dissent to the measure. The Bishop of Lowoox, in explanation, ob served, that he should be as ankious as any one ti better the situation of those ineuntliesits who had small beiirliees, but where two objects were in con templation, he thought proper to Attend to one at a time. Lord HARROWIIT vin:licated the present !Tire. Imre is. 4 justified by the laws of ancient and modern times. There was some re .sou to appreheial that the ecclesiastical law, without any act of the Legislature, permitted the bishops to interfe-e with the disposal of benefices, for the purimse of homing the service duly performed. The right by which ull livings were held, he contended, war conditionul. He art.tutil from the canons and t h e statute' , for centuries, that it taaal always been &titled the law ful rigist of the to appropriate a part, and sowrtimrr the I.lloe, as a Niue nerution to t he re sme.it and olliaititlil7, a ler a ;cman. Viscount Stottoturli attributer, the nr,!.ent mo tino to tho Ite%erend Prola:c, w•ia® had .. t ,elo.n tir.t in debate, and he r-zr...ted ii. ; t'Lit hi. dlo:%- olih.,:nl him to (!ili,•r in opiuinu •finio one highly esteemed and venerated. But he wars cuu seientionsh brand to dezlitre that he was to the prititipk of .the present 1,111. 11e coo ld t.ot consider the relief gire,l to the curate al neut.; the rector might return to perform his fluty, and then the increased .glary' of t;w ut rate would be taken from !tiro, aO , l h , ' +oust return to his former pot vit),• which be doing a benefit, hut as iq , ur , ill that (lass of • the profession t so that, on the-ir ilium, ne did not approve of the measure.. 1k did not perceive that any notice trot. taken of curates appointed by lay iisipropriators, who were equally worthy of the attentiou of the Legislature. There was another observation he should mike ;Al.:did not know that any corn:Anita hail beta 'cudc by curates thiintelve4, nor hail any petition bsam pre sented, stating such grievances to that &louse; and he hoped to be informed by two Right Rev. Pre lates worn Ireland, then present, it' they knew that Such a pi/weeding could 'Duet with tin• approba tion of the Irish clergy. Ilia I.nrdship cum:laded his speech by moving, That bowed of the words, • that the bill be now read,' there be inserted, • that this; Bill be read a second time thia day three months.'" The F.arl of Surront roar for the purpose of making It few olstervatious, in respect to what lied been stated by the Noble iscount (Sidanuelth), concerning the mituation of distressed citrates.— Two year* ago lie bud interested himself on that subject, mid be had received near two hundred let ters (ruin persons of that class of the profession, but he hod rruw lost them ; but there were state ments amongst theta, which could have caused a benevolent heart to bleed. One of these letters accidentally was reserved (his Lordship here read it), it stated t hat the Teeter poeseintal 10001. a-year, anti did ao duty ; he, himself, the curate, had every : . •ittalav to perform at three plat-es of public worsli;p; he hid a family to support, and his salary was altogether till. a-year. Ili. Lordship also taeutioned, that • cler4ymatt once came to his House, cad appeared before his son, who performed the duties it • magistrate, and the nature of his statement cm, that he was a curate in a parish, not far distant, the rector allowed him tidy guineas a-year, but lie took care to deduct live guineas annually to ply that proportion of his income duty, and the eont missioners, knowing he had fifty Kuineas salary, or dered lam to pay another live guineas for his own property tax, so that he was in the actual enjoyment of no more than forty pillages per annum. The Noble Earl expressed himself friendly to the prin ciple of the Bill, although be thought some other provisions might have been snore expedient on these groutals. 11h should give tsits assent to the measure. The Earl of Buccuscmissnias considered the present measure calculated to create great dissa tisfaction and uneasiness amongst the beneficed cler t .Ty. lle did uin conceive that its advecides had made nut a ease, ur that any evil was proved, calling fora remedy which se vitally affected the security of church property. The danger of such a precedent might unhappily be felt in future times ; and it was iuipoasihle , in such a coutemplation, not to advert to the case of* compliance with the Catholic petitions--an occurrence to which he was by no menus friendly. It wa , also to be recollected that advowsous were now bought and sold in the same manner es any other negociable property: With what justice then, could the Legislature call upon a beneficed clergyman, who had bought his living at a calculation of having the services of a Nitrate at a certain puce, to pay a still larger sum. Surely it was in such a one nu slight violation of the security of property. Ilia Lordship concluded by expressing his determination to vote tier the amendment moved by his Noble Friend (Sid mouth). The'Arclibishop of C•ttecaacatc &It anxious to coovince the i Lou.., that the measure proposed was neither oppressive in its operation, or a viola tion of the interests of the Church. The power which it gave to the bishops, was wily similar to that with which they were invested in the earliest times of the constitution of the ('hurch. He cited the Cabe of a Bishop of Worcester, who was remit ,ed by the Pope, for not allowing a sufficient com pensation to vicars temporal-4cunttes, as they were then designated in his, diocese. Indeed, to the reformation, anti subsequent to that period. such poster was vested in the ordinert and the ran evil, now sought to be redressed, au> in a great degree to be trocell to the enitetinent of a legsalg tire prosision, which, ter purposes then perhaps apparently wise, deprived the bishops •of such power, and substituted an Act of Parliameid as the mode of regultososi. The Rev. Prelate cosiclndol by obsen Mg, that he would Le the last wan iu that Horse, who would support the measure, if it in the remotest degree trenched uposi the security or interests of :be Establisdied Church, but at the sane time that he gale his support to the principle, he did by ou morons pledge himself to accede to say oar of its 1111.10,40ki5. The Lnhn LOR took the opportunity of Paying that it wits his wish to . restore those pow. era, winch origimvlly were vested is the ordiaary, sod of which iu * of violence they were de prived. his own opinion on this Bill was in uaii-. son with the tso deciewnis of the other Ilouse of Parhaueuut, alit! a previous one - of their Lordships; but still, thou,th lw supported the prisicipk, Iw agreed with tlw Ilight Re.i.read Prelate, who spot.r. in by ne means pledging himself to Its provisions. The Duke of 7 7 ciaeout opposed the Dill, ay, if not a tlangeroux, at 'eau a very inexpedient and uncallvd-for attack an the secunty of church property. the Earl of LIII'DEROALC reprobated the trea sure in a inoa animated manner. It ric!.iteil the security of the property of the Church, at the same .titne that it weakened the interests of religion. It am wills young men in that sacred cathng as it wa, with those ii the other respectable profession.; of life. I)-p; ice them of the %Instal u. to profeisioaa' advaticcolvot, an I th.• al.Ur t:i hotiewirahl -6011, Mid the Legislatore wouhi deaden 1“- ilit.try reel attivity, Loth hi the etc. - t.•:i cal talcafs, a. tire practice of the iltit:o4, w i. h to the highest honour. iu that ac. the. o:11, prole4sion,. In aprly,av t!.at oriitci;.le to t pre-cot rill, he that . to give 1: cUrote 1111 aettsiti all C• Joy:tic:its of hie, as th:a L,ii b ut‘, to every mstnel,...l7fairantl,ition,and very inducement to del.er-e, by his est-111144aq' exertion., the inciie,l hoineir4 of the Church. He had a more p;ual►.o aut nhje,„ to this Bill, 111:1301.11.!il a. It 1.:W:411E4A 011 11:r morality of the country. The noel - ring te,. tim011 ; of experience convinced him that such precepts, *me worst enforced, if not totally per verted, ;,y an Aet if* Parliament. The iiatimit instinct of lisl !nal to the fulfilment of 11.1 duties. The patent knee, und would rratti. r, dutii to hi. child; so Mould the child to 1::, parent ; but introduce an Act of Parliament .tich regulation, and its iiit:odoidion %mild ti , ,t to dissolve the cements and i.oison the.very sources of Minim liapp:u.-•:. Besides, there appeared am neiie-sity for tnis measure., as their am on their table in ither addrtases from curates, complaining of iiisniii cient wilurie,, ur from-parishioners complaining of neglect of duty in :heir rectors. But, perhap., z!ie grekt origin of the evil (mild be found iii ti•r *latency of ordination, and in calling to that 1 - :o. fetslua each 'limbers ofyoutig clergymen as it Isar impossible to provide for. lu such case, the evil, ought not to be visited on the Irmeticrsl but should be attributed to that glut of the cW tnodity *lnch the reverend • prelates thein.,ni s occasioned. tie also opposed the Bill us laying, a great weight on the possessor of a small ut the same time that it erected the rector, a ith :;ecol. a year, in every trifling insulter. The question was then put, and the House di vided, whcii the numbers were, For the aaleadascat Agaiust it • Majerity agatioit the motion lg The Bill was then oriltre.l to I.e committed to-morrow. The Sugar tastillAtion bill, atter some Macro-Alicia* tom Earls LAI:PEET/A !.I. mid lit:l , lOLE, was read brC.,::4l time, sod ordered to he contimttrd to-morrow. ..rd HAWK K.ltt Kl Mie. d the itecoaa mina% of t:te A, 44441 axes Bill, which Whiz re4d, oe also ■i.aed etscomittAl foe to. worrou . The bail Of LA V to 11113.% t. g reprubeed the precipitancy with which their 'Amish , [IS were ta 'le.' upon to deride u qttettnni uf great importance, without haring tense 9 even with the gre:.trat ai.tAlitity, to unity' s td them. 1f encli practice was cootinned, she public nsit‘t *insider the iiinctio.t ui the ' NNW 111, tSe VA • were Owe. The tvinaiittal of the $lll 4 for brake rote. '1 be wiser Bata on the Table were then forward/el in their resprative stages, atter which the Hunw adjuarned. FOREIGN INTELLIGEIVCE. GOTTEN BURGH MAIL. Further extracts.) KNOPIA, NAT 15. Two months are bow expired since the enemy took tereses,ion of this town, and declared whoic Finland a conquered province, for ever iaeorporeted with his vast empire. Ne hope seemed then to he left that we shall ever be rescued from the enemy's yoke, and yet it hata plea,ed hovidenee to bless His Majesty's stets with that signal 'access which has 'brought about our liberation. Litt Thursday. the 13th instant, the-Russian ail vioiced posts in the neighlrourlier,ll were attacked by a tletachtn..nt from Colonel Sandal's beigsde, chiefly consisting of the chessman of Savolax, an part of the regiment of West RoNuia, slid driven In, closely pursued by our gallant countrymen ; a severe conflict took place iu our streets, the result of which was, that the Ritssious were completely routed and compelled to retreat in the utmost ens fusion ; they lost all their magazines, a eens,deraL:e slumber were killed and wounded, and shout 3110 taken prisoners.—(Steekkolos Gazette of Axe 15.) The Russian General, Count Ihrxhoyden, hue judged it necessary to cause the following precis 'nation to Lie published in Finland : rr When His Imperial lajesty's troops entered this mir ky, all provisions forage, awl webs: necessary articles, were bolight fur rattly Rainey, and all the inhabitants etijoid that pietectiou which ;esc fat subjects, who take no share is the user, beer a right to claim. In hopes that they would refrain from all hustile proccelloge, they were not ordered to deliver up their arena, bat nu the contrary fire arms of every deactiptusa were kit is their possession. Eaprncrice having time convinced, thi.t su (Sr from that just hope bring fulfilled, several it.hahitawts hove employed Mew anus, to titlark His Imperial Majest ? '. officers. 41/ 0 1 ,4 N, and transports, and to tlistu.') the pu b lic t, opt' II it ) ),./ the meet rnwusons CliCeSite j IS is hereby ordered, that sari. va..atats not •,i her itthattitattla of Yits:attt!, us 4611 toot &a ter up mil their tiro-arms and other weapuos within eizht dap. neat lIESSULIT the in t ldiratioo nt this Prot . ' station (non the pulpit, shall sot only be lined as nix-do:lui be' cowry tut., pistol, Or usher vrespm Vaud is their possession, but duo suffer I •orpural ow capital punishment, accuisling to the cit• combat ma es and essisiplimitni ei the case. •• .111 public authorities ore directed to keep a watchful eye ever the strict ex.-totem of. this order, ens declared sic.. winn a ble for all excesses of the above tiescription which shall at fatale he cintennued in this country. "Col:l*i't BLXHOEVT/EN." Ali, 'sits May. . _ (4(sidlwis Garatte, Axe it.) FRENCII PAPERS. PAM% JUNE 17. The Barone Gazette of the 13th of June, contains tie litllow,i, particulars Ilia :111jesty king Joseph Napoleon Ririe , d the 7tn lieu. at eight o'clock, at Pau. As-sono rs the Esktverer was informed of it, he repaired froia the Castle of 3larrac, to meet his Serene Brodie:. Ilia llalrh: tort the King two tulai from Bayoinie, and brought luie in his carriage to Niarrae, where I.e parsed the evrinie,;. Her Majesty the Empie-si encoded tiy her ladies to wait ug, met the IN 11.. on the st , ::.‘ of the Palace. imiliedi itch- wards the Depia.liiiin of the Giaiideet of "i;. the Duke it, I hifalutin at their bead. the ho;,our of hyenat presentel to king Jo•e; Napoleon, In his Evcellence 111. Amnia, of Finaii.:e eiir the kingdiu of 'file Pie, dent of the Deputation made the following *pee to the "SI 11l c feel tl”r most lively joy la preventing; *rive* berop. )0.1. Vl:tit-sq. Ihe prtremze .A joor - • UPt tltOtt'S 1.. 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