The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-03-05 00:00:00

Debate, erithisixtilrovi best pap.) prepared to great them for the tumble NC If dose arrangement could not be would be better to withdraw that clause d let the Right Hon. Reatleman make with the Bank. ICELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said h le, the House might see, to come to any . aresusgessest, as they 000ld not know the ex as trouble the Beak might hare. Hanes haviog then resolved itself into a Com blv..Brogdeo in the Chair— ORENFELL said be would take the Rase of is ae propriety of withdrawing that ebbs. grant remuneration to the Bank. ELLItB said he was anwilliog to throw any oh s the way at that time. He would not then pro ' asseadment, but would reserve himself to the - the Bill—Some of the clauses were ration being put on the dame empowering Comoussittoers of the T ry to reward the Ban heir agency, ORBNFELI, saw no reason for not striking the ith the Bank. if they could bare the con any charge at all. • then ordered to withdraw. and the divided on the clause. were, for the clause. 76; against it, 39; .• to the gallery we found Mr. OREN legs, but. from the seise of strangers could not catch one word of what he CALCRAT wu anxious that the Right Re.. • Ch ancellor of t h e Ruberter) wadi ex for persons to signify tiself assentor die measure. The time proposed wee= -1 extension of it would be a great If thought the Right lies. Heade:nap was pressing Rill through too (eichly. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the - , ivee by the Bill to those person who held son ' - la their owe 0•111,11 WU rite sufficient. A included, exteedieg the doe to four 'is favour of treaties + bi ardor to obtain the comet at Abair priselpals. CALCRAFT said that the movie in the remote of England could not signify door diesels' in the !hotted. He wished the Right Hon. Gentleman the tens of 11 days to all, as be inteeded was anxious to know from the Right whether there was any provision in the /as sorry he had aot time to read, for tntstee, where there were two or more, dissent; or was it aseessary that all esetooded that the time was too limited. • was a physical impossibility for the their lineations knows withia the 'CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought t was quite sallisient. 'PORT said that they ought to be cautious these proceedings the appearance of tab. by surprise. LCRAFT again repeated his objections to pre •"11 through the different stages. without the beldame die Week. to knew the --a the. Bill ~eed. The harry of the ~ Gentleman "NU lead the public to samee something in th. mu not fit to be know.. NCEILOR of IIbeff.XCHEQUER mid the Rill was already before the public. It that the details should be hoewa to .objected to tie order Is which it was f a the diesentienta. He wished to knew dose in case all the dimendests se last day glees them. He could set last dimestient should be better off dissented first. He thought It would be • consented were required to agility d was, isdeed.su rised, from the mode Right Hoe. oeatleman, that soy ose *. dissent. IN said no notice bad been takes by of one close of bolder—be 'mantes- have laid eat mosey is that stock. they bad parehmeditsssities of 5001. anositiss would be, Ivy the measure contemplation, reduced to 4001. orBool. He would persons would be satisfied with the Bill f an a:lassies of time is favour of those. :I.LOR of the EXCHEQUER was en , that if the 'coasters knowingly and ed ananities in funds which were liable did so of their own wrong, and they Consequence. thought the Right Hon. Gentles's. provision for the case of exemption. provision were made in that Bill, no cite- for the future purchase in the 4 per Ceuta, were liable to redemption, bat they weeM money in the 3 per Cents. words from Mr. Matrix sad the CAMP. white ebb oft be bard b resumed, and the Report was brought up ordered to be taken into further consider nest, and tho Bill, as amended, was •RMY RSTIMATMII. the CHao"""" —...scsaar.i.LOß of fist LX. Ong into a Consosittes of Supply. and may Rstintatne to said Committee, wished, before the Hone shooid p make an observation on the Orders was not animal in that House to put through second sod third readings, about wit io the morning, when only a few the Hume. That was the ease on the turday last, when a very iasportant Act its third reading. He meant the Act for persons who took op arms from persons 4 110 e Bill affected persons who had perhaps -.iced proceedings against the Magistrates who took op their arms, which they defence of themselves or property. He -4 that, in order to draw the attention mother Bill, which stood among the and wasabout passing intoa law. He Hers' Commitments Bill. He hoped for the maritime counties would . By that Bill, which went farther the Late King. the Magistrates might ululate" person suspected of that illicit .deir decision was bash. He hoped the ordered to be printed and postponid. words from Mr. WA HRH and Mr. BEN- resolved itself Into a Committee of Supply. A g ER having left the Chair, ,NERSTON rose to call the attention of the Estimates for the service of the Army for The House, ►e said, would perceive ~ showed that great mindless had last year, as well ie the wsiehers of the .., amount of charge. The total 'Worth's ■embers. setting aside the Veteran Batts in Ireland, mania he found to be ■mount of charge 537.8491. There • (PfarrarMarrbirg •10 which he Mee pre I they wentel hive. then MAN it wail film the Bills and some stipplatim w Tlie mown was imptiffsble, th • conclusive image tent of the tremble The Home havi • mitts', Mr, Seigel, Mr. oluorriaLi Committee on the • which west to Kra Mr. ELLICE sai Uncle in the way al pose any ameatme third reading of tl '•*! then agreed to. On the reastion the Conernessioners for their agency, Mr. GRENFELI bargain thee with • mince to make ani Strangers were i Committee divided The numbers we Majority, 37. tft our return to FELL on his lepi rushing in, we co said. Mr. CALL RA %/edema (the Cie tend the time for p mat from the meal too short, and an et convenience. Mr. MABERLY was pressing the B The CHANCELI time given by the of the stock In thy clause would be is 1; teen days more la able them to obtain Mr. CALCRAFI " parts of England a time limited. He would extend the to for trustees. Mr. ELLICE we • Hon. Gentleman, Bill, which he was permitting one tree to declare his dim should join? N O' ID. MONK coati and that there wt holders to make t given period. The CHANCELI the time given was • Sir J. NEWPOR • of not giving to the lag the country by Mr.CALCRAFT cipitate the Bill the .c dent time to the rooditions which tb Hight Hon. Gentles • there was somethini The CHANCE L principle of the Bill was not necessary tl them. Mr. ELLICE obj• proposed to pay off what was to be dose their dissent on the conceive why the la then be who dissent f firer if those who o their assent. He w adopted by the Rigl should signify his di ' Mr. T. WILSON any Hon. Member e minors, who might Ile would suppose tl or 1,0001. Those ar lender eontemplatior ask if those persons He would propose as The CHANCEL! sierstood to reply, th willingly purchased to reduction, they di should abide by tbe _ Mr. MABERLY should make some p Unless some provisio rotor would for the because they were Ii oi lay out their money After a few words cze.t.ok of tie Exult isou the Gallery, The house resume and read, end orders • ation on Thursday ordered to be printe • On the motion of A , CHEQUER for gait for referring the An Mr. DENMAN w into Committee, to of the Day. It lea important Acts throe one or two o'clock % 411 Members were in GI morning of Saturda• went through its thi indemnifying perso in Ireland. The Bi already commenced or other persons, wl kept for the delenc merely mentioned th •, of the House.. to sr orders of that day, a meant the Smuggl the Representatives look to that Bill. than the 57th of tb take up any mewls] • I trading, and their Bill would be order. After a few words NET, The Home resole, The SPEAKER Lord PALMERS' Home to the &Gm the present year. that the Estimates • bate made since las army as in the Mlles in pointof members Bons, which were 12,304 men, tad in were many , differeet ways ounthers might have been to be below disbandin g elides ducing the whole Reounseets Id a certain limited' eftslAnsmeat. , Weir alitteirta die prolusions mode, as coodtiniag the mkaatages ef greater saving in charge, and leaving the army 'ld i mete Wicket state than by any other phi, The OMMillhoiew of disbanding Regiments mould be to NB the very inconvenient necessity of changing she locations Manny of them which wets abroad, whilst by taking a certain portion fromeseb, at *maim time that it was equally practicable, that ffittaivestage weals be avoided. Besides the redaction of two entire Regiseems of Cavalry, a reduction bad takes place to the *Made two troops In all Cavalry Re . Lio e temee, and two compeodes all Infantry Battalions . Ceylon% Regime's bad m chargeable to the East India compaiw, incomes queues of the diminution in total force Widels this re faelliew of oempseies bed effected is tkollidolits ia ladle. I N additionl battalion bad beets seat to .that " mod of coarse this country was relieved of t r a ,barge of it. Astragal other Wags there was a l eedaetios dam last year If mend., DO the ausweet of 11.1111.4aml it it were sot that Inland reenged greeter military form Nis pier than last, them wield of course he a greater diellaMos this appeared epee a compari- Os of the lEldiamateafer the two years. A demos to She ohmmeter the Military College exceeding lIMML was 41triMarlilig".1 the 6 remo er va l t l of er e sub:ori f t p 6 d e ee r : be peed by themidele. ils lbe ebigle.kAmoreiMism there was an increase of more then ilmalt ia ir IP7Siv• ing foil pay to a particular elms Ostievals, which was dehmiiaed apse, part e i ss oasemeepoom of the manes. be which that the consideration of their case ms t i' M Prel"d ajoity's 'ffievernment.—(Hear, bear.) On the fall "pay of retired Officers there was an increase of 1140001. owing to the reduction of the Veteran &WHOOP. In the military allowances would be found m 'Defuse of KOOK is consequeaco of the reduetioas la the army. In the charge for foreign half-pay, then was a diminution of awards of 8,000 1 . which was partly orris, to casualties. For Chelsea and Kilmainbam Hospitals, there was a di minution of 11,753 i. attributable to economical arrange. meet. Of the Veteran Corps, there remained but three battalions, Instead of tee. Tim total diminution of sem• hers, as compared with the Estimates of last year, was 17,822 mew ; bat patting the Veteran Battalions out of the guano!), it was but twelve thousand area; and the diminution in charge was 537,0001. epos the whole Es timates. The House womb' see that the milted*. was is the first class of the Estimates, end that the natural consequence of reducing from the charge for the active breach of the service was to add to the inactive part of it. Although, therefore, the iiimlantioe was only what be had stated on the whole, it was cossiderably more, when considered with refereace to *dealer branches. The Please. Committee of bad espreesedaut mien that the Estimates *band ant weed Bjo and when the army which was is Frame was placed on half-pay, to 8,780.8001. Now It would be found that the estimates for this year were cousiderably *Oder that in their total, being only 6,103.0001. for the ordinaries, aid with the extraordinary charges, 'Deluding hoisted, 7,494,000!. shewlug a sum a ywards of 1,2011.01101. as dm the computed estimates of th. Finsweetkomotittee sr 1817. Were Ireland not in tbestate she was at present. the reduction would of course be muds greater ; but ea the ordinary estimates He dinethation la nearbere. as atilt =ith last year. apwards 12.000 lad . in charge. The Noble Loed concluded by mewing it vote of 68,802 me. for the laid eervieeChe the year 1822, exclusive of the Colonies. ' Colonel DAVIES ommitiored the Noble Lori a state; meet very ansatisfactl. The 001111411rOplerd„ sea amity, but there was el the greattreEellit‘aat. oleo observable in the charges fee Army.y year la the reductions which wow, aide.** Offieers was almost ustesehed, becomes Nielsen* Mare eawilling to diminish their patrol/Age. He differed from the Noble Lord as to the amettat saved this year. contrasted with the last. The charge for last year, so donee of the expense of reducing certain corps Was on 1,493,6771. This year, 6,019,8811: Soon saved In fact. 473,7851. Bet this was $3,0801. tees than it ought to be charged, Swarm were la reanimate of cavalry unbar on their way to, or returning from ladia. These, as they were charged te the East India Company. ought Not to be charged in the Estimates. Deduct thee this 53.0001. and the saving, is fact, would be bet 420,0001. as com pared with the last year; and this was considerably short of the million which the Noble Lord talked M. The Honourable Member then proceeded to *mama epos other parts of the Noble Lord's speech. He NiOussini that a reductisia by regiments would be some feellelleielil than reducing by companies. He would propo a to in crease the reduction of troops from 12,000 to 15.000 men. He would do away with theater tarps allogetber. He would aloe reduce the cavalry. He esatemied that the number of troops employed in Ilse Colonies was too large. It was meth too large compared with the number of troops kept op in 1792. A great saving might be effect ed by establishing a Colonial Militia. He would do sway with the waggon train altogether, as perfectly useless. He also objseted to hollow up two Majors Id each regimeat. He suggested a aids by which great leavings might be made in the reoreitiag service, if in. craning parties would report direct to their corps. The Hos. Member then pro ceded to point out some other reductions, and concluded by moving, as an amendment, that the number of troops tube voted shoild be Mined to 86,502. The reductions were principally to be made in the Wades. Lord PALMERSTON said Gentlemen opposite had changed their ground. Last Session they coet en d e d that it was in the Home Service the greatest rednitions could be made, bat they now turned rotted, and object. ed to the force in the colonies. The Noble Lord thee proceeded to point out that am Increased force was ae cessery iii the Colmdes. A great mein of expense was now effected, by dividing the ceusiry into districts, sad placing over each as Inspecting Yield Officer. whose bu siness was to prevent impartr mamba hom Wag ad mitted into the army. le answer ID what the floaohr able Gentleman had said of pensions given to wounded officers, he must tell him that scarcely adsy passed over at this timewithout some fresh claim being made by such officers, who had reamed teem foreign service.— With regard to theaxpense of the ridlegestaislialmeets, lie (Lord P.) maintained bat it vas mot too iamb, be cause if tile cointry was to have an (laciest cavalry, the men must be taught to ride by . persons of sufficiest MEHL A great difference had existed in the mode of riding in different regiments, and it was now necessary to employ riding•masters to give one uniform species ofieetruetkie to all. It would, however, be possible still to redone this expense lower than it was atresent. Sir H. VIVIAN answered seise oftbeobjectioas made by Gentlemen on the other side, to our present neilltary establishment. The waggon train be comidered a Woe which ought sow to be kipt up, although it Ito Ores &mistiest it was very ieelfisient. With respect Web, riding establishment, it was of the aunt* peeeemsemes to the service that it should still be nisiateleed to the greatest possible extent, becee s • w ith ou t i t we serer should be able to have pod cavalry aoliiitht. Mr. HUME observed, that last year the number of rank and lie on oar military eatahlisheeent ametiated to 70 tboentand men t of these/On were is doe colo nies, of whist, Busher a wrest reditities was umarally expected ; bat the reloetioa war maim dna bar bum deed. He agreed that in dm whole 'epees* of 'he establishment there had been allogetbee. a redueelan of, wits set to the Meet =et. Last year he fee redsolag IS `. bet he afterwards with ___.... woes; an. - . Prised of his reposed to rodeo id IbetigeoL He skald now prepeas a oho tics similar to wbatbe bad dose last year. He oho bad dose elm focuser occasion, take the yea s r be l s 4 OHO peeled to which the Oovereneet should look is !slag ito moblishataste. le Aid yese the umbel , if oak sad He sous KRIS. The easier of 65 tkessood look and Si., who, with Akers, would make the wimple Arleen doomed, lanteatteived at didallose le be sollill apl kr all &tweets of she country. Is /be year 17111. the number of Marian sad Artillery snouted to eight thoussed meg ; sew they were 15 *amend; Than meet opines be oomedereil as denial a pass of tbs military foam, beteg sorely eying! cm Ind. The army was, therefor* Ingromeed by then to the somber of 7.000 horned sloth was in 179 e. He enteaded thee that dare wareire dremiasseess banging tether country at this time Ala rinelsed thosimploymeat el se %ergs a foree.— We esetaiely hadelomeendroduew gekeigembich required se 'Wain& hoe of IMO° sea. and 10.000 nee wen loan up le OD lambs blood.. Last yisr47,ooowere employed is the CologlaskildeaktgewCapend Coyne. Sow he nalatalsed thateigittheagesd saes might be aparad from tkereelooks. The prise eitirdies et Use 4001111ify hod bilis soled as diligroot from what it had been in 17927 11 E Nodose* MAW 'molder that oargreat comatitati fano VW alititn. was kept up; sad that this sollida Gest the antowy. lost year. no less a sam thas betimes ins sad Ate bemired amassed pounds. Besides these Oben were selladlothi, teses. tied artillery i sad se RAM was lakes de these IN estimitiag ' tbe ameasilrof oar military t r ot which they should/OM" sidered as fersist a part. The militia sod y were either of ow Nibs errantry, or they wore are. If they were. let them be put into the accesat of gar stabile force; sad if they were not, let °Behalf at least of the milltle be spired. There was anther petit which the boon eboeldinok to; it wee the large. military enhalf of which coesisted of drums, fifes, sad music. lie would again say there was no eircanglosso oseaseted with the seestry at prevent diffenmt from OP pond of 112. whigh requited a larger military force. Th e present sista of se doubt, might call fors larger force. Bet, on Ow whole. lie conceded that there night to be a redoing of forte which wield predate a saijog of bald a. 'million to the country. Last year the auras amessted to 17,000, altbongh, in 92. they were only Leah He wished to know Betty this force shield he largo sow that in 1792. The HorsoOssede were moot espeasin troops; every one of the nos_r„ the country as mach as • junior clrrk hi a Offsee ; and be wield seek rather see the join maimed, gad a great number of theme men discharged. He cold set an goy Necessity for these °Dards; a lei number wield he Balkiest to uphold the splendour of Munch,. What screens was thereSor Guardia% the Public Intl* and Picture Oalleries? Sorely Ole Arts did tot in seed of patronage or proteedes from the nil .; es the notary. armies had net Ineezerred as mot biotin to Arts sad Seisocds. He the t the Goods night to be greatly redsomd, 2,_ ea: * the ht to be brought dorm to th e The diseiplin of the corps was m what it was ia 92. owl 'bow fire t he force mast be tough snore ell deal. had, on a former occasion stated that • ' hod boo opal by keeping se tke each regliosot al richt headrest mew and Le whited le know why lb" Noble Link /tad elm; *- doted the regimes; to Illtroboadroi ogo gni ? fifths redoing was • less to thelleastry al abost UMW us ' Maio ofillgrosage sillional enposiratf fitaff meat. lismeigain arediowed ndegolleslow 0 Masked ll = gral li awa llierefortil l elli a Le m sral. IP _ . 8 - asoistieas, did ant nook the of theadidryo. I. 1760 the Duke of Peek 106 ropilleffile to 94 sad that tai 2 Um* of was. wises there mT~ght ve boo a pertiodu oniegatty ler them. He was sure tint MO Ike odeettee be moat to Use whole of the die pubis force inald be milkiest. The Americas °soreness tee dm whole of their army, in seder se basbeli link easserees, and he asked what ae amity was diem sow to keep up 5,000 nee in Canada? He comilided by that the number of 56,304 nee be subsdnded hissed of the number moved for. Colossi WOOL) Said, that with respect to the remark of the Hon. Gentleman respecting bands attached to the stator militia regiments. all he would say was, that the gaol evict ordssetad boa given, that there should be bat see drummer for every two companies. The Hos. Ogatliman had spoken of a little riot in Ireland. On that abject be scald *sly say that he should be very seen so sue sorb a riot in the country in which he Awed. Some cottons on the same side entertained • different view of it. for they had recommended military law. The Doke of York had reduced the regiments in 1796. because the umber of men thrown together in a harm Ind ostiered them ine ffi cient Sh J. NEWPORT said, that be would not have risen se far wayside' apes this quesdos, but for remarks made nepodaß the elate of Ireland, in which he could set concur. His a d der; wish bad been to get an es. ablution instituted into the state of Ireland, and a re., sandy applied to the evils which distressed that aseetry. Bet there was • limit and a period to investigation as to other things, and Ireland was in that state when inne Ligation could aot be lastitited, and wiles, not riot. but issarrestios, required the WOO" arm of the law.— (Cheers from the Ministerial side.)—The Ooverannet of Ireland bad been most shamefully and scaarlateusly deceived by nee whotaight to have had cornet informs tion. He alluded to the information gives Belfast and Mountrath. Bat there had been am i e s : P c ie ll i T fel outrages committed sod horrid assassinations. A Rosa. Catholic ciergynse bad been attacked boson he had from the slier recommended peace and good 'order. Could he doubt that this was a state reqniring adatioaal military force?-(Cheers from Illinimere)— lin trusted it would pees away, but it mold be by the Apron execution of the law to put down violater. It rata be Imperious afterwards to look Ist° the CAIIIKII of thedistarhasee.. He Never would coot in Making that they ought sotto be locked into and probed to the bottom. lint while insurricion prevailed, be hoped no Hon. Member 'sold sees for a moment to express saw terms of witigatioa.-{Cheers.)--Having always bee; the advocate of peace and examination, be was Dow obliged to say tbatharmony must be first restored ; and the. be would Virg* a *enough. complete, sad radical investigation. and the application of a kit. oak, sad ade quate reasedy„—(Hear; hear.) tkonal OASOOYNE would certainly voteagainst the preposateedeodome. Hon. Members talked of 'WOO" 'Io "t 4 Isb oar army bed stood previous to the late wee but let It be remembered that very heavy objection bee* taken, upon the breaking oat of that war, hi ceaditics Dew is Waled. The veryounlikame i lead brought late the Gehl bed bees goings I meat sad of &plants Bober allies. He (tin. bete ere service - tone ortlie ow ' I tbe I It i s s a ,Oo, eer▪ stagnadle It for a 10040 whether all the fehielb wire MOW fors° Ti. le thia. got Hama illeOhis Aga proceeded to eosin Met Assent s), liames epee the sweet irelead.lo4l Iwo 'gilded for the of maintaining such a (nee as sommtild hate in ' 10 the aiintnini as tedl as to the liZte• parisist coessey. Ho anstakiel hp deck& s i t the m& of wet existed ii . l evni peg ut ator, - Al tl fa witielt"lie rattail's ie pm* but that alreetedobettbe OW, wood Ala lb* ottatory bad a right to , 'Ore Regintintsa. and re- bottiotholitatt to the boom a at siesta id tha aervtee (lowa to thumped from tbo eetablislneat. I dintoot. 'rho low appeared dt'dkllidit folios; std as Hos. 1 Mb 4 sad that appearawati were its. _ precaution at best. Mr. WILMOT woad thew that Mr. Remo was .. 6 takes le the sedemee be tad made .1 the roda ct i s ili the collegial army liit year. The Hee. Hend es , hi stated it at net mere Mae leer hundred MI j b it i s (Mr. W.) wade new that It was 1134. It appea rs ' .„ the face of the omelets that the semen for lag hear leaving India set erne otessidee. we,, *4ll , 44 ; these for &element year were T/$l3. He would M A L ewe the lee. Neither to dray this; tad be imateed, tee. that the lies. Member bed been led into a iniew..6 subtraetiag doe present ylierie 0116111111 from non i s . send of 32.471. The Hoc I gillOrlibil read ikiii'res of the estimates, from wheal It mppmeed thatn e hh" 1 4 the several increases and likelhetimis which h a d 1.,, widen the several reeves aineemed to a total of 4,534 /. sees last year. The meaty at the Cape of deed d oge could sot. he antesded, admit of say reduction is be somber of troops. peg to flee disposition of tie p,„ ie by whom tbat colony was sorreauded. In the 1.4., Islaads.tee. a large feces locum mosseary, i n (pewee of the disturbed state 0 the Neighbouring en . try. What the yarded', clnesstaeces of thos e i s k i i, were. be hoped. to he Me Nee to skew to dit haw bet they might in the mesa time net assured ;km . larger fern than was 117 ,4 !ad set been ou py rd : Taking Me missies .it would be len di st , taking the New minim th the old, the name4. 4 l strong* of deform is Mem did sot bear a greater pro. pieties to their extent thaa it did is 17112. The rod s ,. tioa which the Hemerable /outer called itym the House to make was therefore *g i rt ; emu. after rid could redaction, they set keep notary la that age of defame which It ranked. He wouid be th e leg to , :ri say this( that should add to the buten sr the distress of say class of the community ; 1 11; bean net hear to hears peopeeal which ono so i.N; p s the homer of the country. It had been sale that the age of chivalry was goo*, eel he should be sorry if i e ,. Bard for the beeper mad indepeedeace of the centre were to be seerilleed to say narrow or lerpotleti c il principle of political ftenemy. It was the lay of t i, House to watch ever the interests of the country ; sa d it they minded to the redactions which had bees elect. ed. they wield see that it bad bees carried to do or. seat limit that the safety of the mete/ could b eer , sad that a further reducing of 10d100 meld Ht he air. red into effect. Mr. O. StNNET thought, that before the Houe should resolve to keep up se Iwo a sellitary mask meet ae that which was prenesed, they shield made whether the coaatry was able to pay its creditors; it the were memberless:than &permed of tbedell4;llMs that ought to give tray; lout he ltd to see how, amber the might' drm- mamees. an erne( so large as amount wasle matter of imperises wain. With regard tis Inked. the conduct of the Hoarsen of this endalry had fora long period of yaws hen ui. culateolonly to irritate; mod that nothigg had en* dn. a g i I. the way of coacirietien. The Noble ~ Mean ritlimentoe) ought am to forget that he . ed to a ' set which had dealt le Inked nothi arm sad restrictions; sad that to ill usage 4see No II attributed all the evils of that 'ahem emu. Mr. WARMS thought. that 'Wet an the draw fleeces. the redembee of MOM sea which web nee last year was sellicloat i , owl that the beet mode elm► ceedag would be. fret e eeply a awe to the new Bile„ sad thee ;_o_mli*dheiriny. lipid ALTHOM deral to see the mualser lend. Zi stsed ft/Need to the eleeelesd ef 1711 0 &should "rem a ef MOO ate ben dse emeley sad Mee the - limes the whine be Mem% a redemisset owe. =end by his Hee. Need. wary safely be ; 111 r 1 .1CALCRAFT roes amidst lewd airs ef9stallee. `Ned sail , dot bewiewlidi '.idgelieved stilifter i k. • Noble Mead who had jest sat dews. be s d pied my embdes of Me may. ear; la; ha bees teemed er tellt Mo et member be wind fa Who cestaidliwg fee the last ski yews. Laskin at thence. leg state of Irelaad. he saw so grenade fir the gored redestlessg sad though it was argued that the eawneal fame otthe Heards might he eedscod, he wadi Wilt that meet a measure wield Ire attended with ilmeseast *• of lined I ,ON arra a all•aea Wall.. A Mall MIN 11111• Mal• di/entity at the peewee mouseat. If the siatealreisai ahead regain an additimial force to be meet to that cosetry, from what source, be would ask, meld that force be *applied. so effectually as from the Chards?— The systems of reducing whole companies be glean thought very objeetioaable. Itedigethins, when fend asonsary. ought to be made by ampoule. He Pee his entire comeneresee to thi.orieinal vete. Sir H. HARDINOR addermeed the Cessmitese to the same effect as the last Homearahle Member. lie ay* salted_ the proposed reduction of the (nerds. Mud the &Soft of feraishing • -suitable augabse of wogs is the event of say emergency. if hasty reductions were owe made. He did Dot see how any elhajeatiee cesli take place is the nausetical force of the Rea sad Wet goo Train. In his opinion it would be taiga imprac- ticable to revert to the standard of 1792, as that by which our_present numerical force should be regakted. Sir. R FRIWUBSON supported die angeashantow the ground that the distressed cireemstaacee et the coustry required a considerable reduction of eat mar tary expenditure. He preferred the employmen of g regular military forme in Ireland to that of the y 0 eleasni who frpoestly showed themselves to be admen by bad passions sad prejudices —With respect to the Colemies, he thought they could best be pretested by daval force. The Committee then divided on Mr. Haise's Amen• mese, for reducing 10,000 men from the proposed Bub' man:—Ayes, 51—Noss, 196—Majority in raven Oda nights! motion. 145. Another division followed on Col. Davies's Amok meat:—Ayes, sS—Noes, 184—Majority i a fauna de original modem. 126. The sum of !.246.299!. was agreed to is poet tt tbe pay of the Land Forces. la convulse, of the lateness of the hear. sad ea Ae meggessioe of Mr. Hume, Lord Paltuentoa agreed le'le* few the ether items. The house resumed, and the Report was ordeta W k. received to-morrow. The ether *niers of die day were thus dimmed The Irish Arms Importattea Bill was read • Is' time and passed, after some coeversation is which bir • Houlbarn. Mr. Denman, and the Marqueu of taed se. deny participated. Dr. LUSHI \MON wished to ask the Hoe. Sear- tary for Ireland a question. if there was any fostorLdia fora 'rainiest which he had seen; that after sentence of death had been pseud on many unfortuaate wee" vieted as the late As.ises for Cork, it was intimated 1 . some that they shodid guff, r execution immediately, sod that se others it was stated that their lives 'heel be saved. if the disturbances in the country ceased. Cis re; probated moot stronKly the application of such meets! torture tie those on6lrtnnate men. Mr,GIOULMGRN said he bad sot received say Wier egation on the subject. Mr. BERNAL was anxious to learn if a paper, which he had that day seen, purporting to be the Resoles Te rift was autbeetie. We could not hear the Marquess of DONDOW• DERRY's reply The How then adjourned at half.past twelve. Landee teed, sod Ps ['fished st 1140111se "Tenor '" and "Tun CONITITUTION " P eagt Purred. Mc Strand, opposite Mt. Cioweat's emu by R WA W. gb whom a Dawnesieatiess, Dean, eu be addressed.