The Statesman. — London, England, 1813-08-20 00:00:00

V., • ••• 7'llE 3.IfIRQP7S OF. LANSDOWNE. .. _ . r LI O IIOII Tlli t+LNING POST.] ••. ‘,' 'We publish the Address"of the Catholics of this Comity and Chytri this:eplted Nobleman, together ivielv his polite and elegant reply. To every senti mentlitihe Address, nod to the high claims which have called - it forth, we are . bound to record our most 'cordial and unequiroearassent— we more than aoterit-i—we approach and a pplaud that tribute of • g;ntitude to one.ortlirliest friends and ablest - . - cote , : of the disfraneltised,niillioos of Irelimd. The Addriskame fri4 - 11te pen of our talented nrld patriotic cdintrytrian, John Evans, of Glyn. wook.l;lNg. ADitlttr.slt TO 'THE Poilk . nQUlS OF lANStiOWNE. A+ too o'clock the deputation u sited on 14 Lord shill at Swiatburn's Hotel—when 11r,Vai. Roche read ind presented the Atieb•css. TO THE MOST' ?<WILE THE I%IAKQUIS OF LANSDOWNE. .40 We. the Roman Catholics of the 'County Dnd City of Limerick, congratulate ourseltelupOrryour Lordshilio arrival among, us,' where yOur worth is 4vraly appreciated, and4ndaars your presence. " We selected your Lordship as the organ of our prayer, and the assertor of our Aims ; year rule lity and i zeal hove justified our confidence. Accept our warmest acknowledgments, however inadequately expressed, for that powerful ,a&kooaey, which, on evil , occasion, has eminent', contributed to the advarcesnent of our cause; rind or the. exertion Qf, those talents, which have reflected on it a. liaitre l corruspondirg to their intrinsic brightuess.„A • - • • ", As Irishmen, We hail, with gladness, the visit • of . eive l originally and 'intimately our Countryman, both in ancient family, and extensive possessions, in • ouriantl.• We are proud to behold, in that Coun tryman. n. Personage, of one of the highest order of the Nobility of the Empire ; but to your within, not 3 OUT rank, do we tractithe dignity of your cha t actor! 44 As a Sta•csman, yoar::vittue has been recog nised in the h;gh and arduous office assigned you, by one of the most talented and virtuous Adminis trations of !flatlets, times-L-as a Senator, your elo quence and patriotism are the lasting monuments, of your fame— and society accords you the praiser°, all' that is admirable and accomplished, in the circle of private life." THE MARQUIS'S ANSWrIt. " The sentiments you have just expressed, I can only consider as an ailditional instance of that gene rosity, ,with which I have observed the inhabitants of this part of the Empire never fail to estimate the exertions, and to construe the motives of such per sons as have the good fortune to be connected with them; aird even of those *hose merit consists chiefly in anxiety to sere ; ORM. " Earnest;us my w 3 hex ere for the proiperity of this Country, and proceeding from feelings, which feu will illow me to say, are of ,a somewhat Meier ancrtetter nature thin thoseof Interest alone, I hale long' been persuaded, that I could ttot:consult those, wicks more effectually, Than by contributing, as fir as it .could be in the power of an individual to con-. tribute, to, the removal of those civil distinctions, vitiCh have too long' prevailed among the inbabi tanti'of the same soil, and members of the same " 4 That the diffusion of itaowledgei, which, while it extitigUithes the cause of all policitical jealousy, is, at tl e !aim time,,,Ahe . best amt. most powerful cor rective of those al t gry,, feelings which. it engenders, may reOrove,erpry obstacle to the attainment of this rest u lkject, anti of your just desires, wiliever con finite to be my sincere wish and prayer. • . "-Zrentlemen,l request you will accept my Wirth e—st iliaitks for the very nattering attention with which you have hatiOured me." . . Mr. FITTAERALD I it.is conjectured,. wilt succeed . ' PY e t as the Poet.Laureat. • • C ktrAtzr O'Butaa.--Thris Gentleman, who died last ik•ek,sedtiertly, Was first brought intrimoried by a dispute. shout Mrs. Hartley, at Vauxhall, in which Lord Lyttlelon, Captain Crofts, and a Gen.: tleman known by the name of fs, , ,htinge Fitzgerald, and who- was afterwards hanged, were engaged.— Oa the part Captain O'Byrne took fel. Lord I4yttle ton, he first became acquainted with that Nobleman, by whop' he was afterwards patronised, as long as his Lordship lived ; and he was amongst those who were present at the last scene of Lord Lyttleton's life, when, in consequence of the prediction of the ghost hich.he fancied he saw in hlill-street, Lord Lyttle. ton fell a victim to a nervous spasm, which attacked Lim within the time appointed by the ghost, at Pitt place, near Epsom. The persons then present were Lord • Forteßcne, Admiral Wolseles', and Captain O'Byrne, the. first of whom is the only one now re.. mining to attest the story. When the late Earl Haws,. witetwavtitty able for his presence of mind, was Captain of the Magi:airline, during a maize on the coast of France, a heavy gale obliged him to anchor, and depend solely on his ground-tackle. It was on a lee-shore, and the night was extremely dark and tempestuous. Captain llowe, at this time laid up with the gout, was reading in his cabin, when, on a sudden, the Lieutenant of the watch came in, with a counte nance fraught witbalarm, and said, he was sorry to inform him that the anchors came home.—" 17tey are much in the right of it,!' coolly replied the Cap tain ; " I don't :know rah° could slag out such a night this." , • lluyeg White, -wise suffered the sentence of the law on Friday last-for robbing the Leeds mail, was . one , ‘f the grea*depridators on the towd for.many years past . . Ile was attachesl to plugs of robbers, consistingsef hOusebreakerqamohg - %t horn he was an expert' . wokkman, he having. - first embarked in this systent.of robbery) pickpotketsj: mail robbers, &c. lie was a man whose facie did Ise by' any meads be tray Ilid profession, and:. he tra . trisemerkehle for his silence and easy manner. He its considered a very tempr.rate man, and, is iaid never to Vave injured the person of any one in his depredatory .cagier, hut, on the contrary, refused to be concerned with, any ac complices who indulged in assaults on the person.— White j> said to have disregarded the Scaffold, and it seems he listened but little to'the eaboey4ons of the ‘' Clergymen, who on askinchim if he could administer any sort of comfort to him, was answerer'--.only by betting some othetatan to be hanged for liim t • • . ~~ ' "...NA. LAW INDELL ► COURT OF CIWCF EN-PIRTE (:ARittriusus, tic T 1 Mr. HART stated this to be , parto 6 f I t:7 Petitioner, to be alio or ii 7 against; the bankrupt and Co. The Petitioner was dmotig others, hail,been i n ,' discounts of bills for a gent Bromer, now deceased: This own money, for be had it• not, but by discounting them with others.. • Mr. Bromer delivered to the Pe titioner to get discoanted for him, two bills, amounting ,alto..ether to 17641. drawn by the, house of Paton, Gill, and Co. upon, and accepted by, Messrs. Sharp and Sons. The Petitioner, as Bromer's agent, did get the bills discouhted by the Bank of England, and, after deducting the sum paid for the discount, and 31. 2s. Sd. ,as a commission of one-eighth per cent. fo r the Petitioner's trouble, he paid over the amount to Mr. Bromer. Sharp and Sons, and Gill and . Co*.• both became bankrupt before the bills fell'due; and;' in consequence of the Petitioner's having indorsed them, they were returned upon him,. and he swam obliged to pay them. Ile, in consequatieso fame and offered to prove thope bills upon the eitatt or the present bankrupt; hut his proof was objected to, and was rejected by the Commissioters. It was al leged as, the ground of this rejection, that the Petr 2 tioner, in .discounting the bills, had charged this one-eighth per cent.. more than the legal interests— The Petioner's answer was, that he did not discount the bills himself—he was merely employed as an agent 'to get them discounted, and he received the 1-eighth . per cent. as a commission for his agency. It. Ms I said , however, that the Petitioner was not a benkel, not having been sworn as such by the Lord Mayor ;. and besides, that the Batik - of England made it a rule not to discount bills for brokers. What signi fied that, however, if the Bank had, in the presets; instance,- - discounted these bills for the Petitioner, who was a broker. • In acting as n broker.without having been registered as such, the Petitioner might have exposed himself to penalties ; but that would., not make nut that he had entered into a contract for more than legal interest. Mr. Leacit and Mr. Coos follose j ed on the same., side. 1J : 4 :ir SAMUEL RoMTLI . Y said, this was II very short question. Ilad the Petitioner acted as an . agent 'merely, or had he assumed that character as a con-, ttivance through which to get more than the legal ).ii terest ?—The Bank took from the Petitioner but five per cent. and the Petitioner took from Bromer 51 per cent. On the question whether he acted as a broker or not, much, or rather nil, depended ; and this was. il fact which could best be collected from the prominent circumstances which here presented themselves. These circumstances were ) first, that I the Petitioner was no broker, not . being registered or sworn as such by the Lord Mayor ; and, se ; condly, that the Bai:k never discounts for brokers, and yet they discounted these bills for the Peti t tioner. Mt. hfcerrAou, on the same side, observed, that' ! there was a wholesome statute'against usury—a word which they used sometimes to he of in mercantile ' transactions, though ' now the word commission had unaccountably, and on .41 occasions, usurped its place. The Petitioner here stated, that the bill was 1 - not discounted with his own money—for he had none. That, too, was now a fashionable pretext with usurers. in imitation of a money-lender in a celebrated Comedy—they had no money, but muse borrow it of a friend. That friend iu the play was i an unconscionable dog, and must have . 25 per cent. , and so, he had no doubt, would these Modem usurers, if they could accomplish it. Mr. HART, in rly, contended that it Was not' disputed the Peti tioner had not money himself to discount. the bill i and, though he had, by indors ! iiig.it, incurred a' liability to pay it, and had actually paid it, that could not alter the character in which he I acted; 1 The Loan CHANCELLOR thought this a question •of fact for a Jury. He confessed, indeed s that his ' i own _opinion was formed; but, thinking that it was a case for a Jury, he should not declare that o *. ' nion. ' I Mr. HART asked, that the issue might be tried in i the Common Pleas ? He also submitted, as Mr... Bromer was dead, that Mr. Carruthers, who was the only other peron acquainted with the original con. Itract , might be examined as a witness ? The Lunn CHANCELLOR directed that the issue should be tried in the Common Pleas ; but, could not give any order for examining Mr. Carruthers. Mr. HART observed, that if the Petitioner failed in making out his case, it would be a decision going to affect very fair and bona fide transactions iu the city of Logician,. to the extept of little short of a mil lion of mon e y , - " . 7 ' ' ' - The Lunn CHANCELLOR could not help that. lie believed many things which amounted to usury were esteemed fair. EX-PARTE OLIVER, IN THE MATTER OF OLIVER. The bankrupt in this case, who had been com mitted by the Commissioners to the gaol of New gate, for giving an account in his examination as to an item in his accounts, to the amount of 4061. Which the Commissioners did not believe, and who had been ordered to be brought up by Habeas Cor. pus, for the judgment of the Lord Chancellor, on the propriety of the commitment, was brought intoTourt last night at six o'clock, in the custody of 'Mr. New lean, Keeper of Newgate. The warrant of com mitment being read— Sir .S.RostiLty and Mr. CuitiN were heard in support of the writ of Habeas Corpus, contending, that besides acting prematurely, in not going into .the full examination of the bankrupt on the general state of his' affairs, of which the item in question "mined so very trifling a part, the answers given by Abe bankrupt to tne questions put to him, we're not *cif as ought to have led to the conclosiott which ellie Commissioners had drawn from them, namely, that they must necessarily harelleen false. I.xXott and Mr. MoterAcivr, 'on the part of the Atsignees, entered largely 'lnto the A:Wiliess and duties of the Commissioner., whose previnco it was to act on" their .own judgment delibe i ttely and dispassioinately formed on the evidence" ' tire them, On tit hith ; ney •lieve called to ,:coninift a bankrupt, if the account given by him as ton triWtatl,loll in relation 'l4 which ‘, which tho,liankrept had been committed, Many Mr cumatinqes.svhich weat to prove (be fals4ad 'of the whore story. &Wide' the imprqbability, of. the story itself, there was in it this extroordinql feature,. that the sum Mid to be the' stipulated ,prick of 'this un: known person's silence, had bees paid - at different periods of time the last payload on the very eve ofi bankruptcy, or after dos commission of bankrupt had issued • and what was also extraordinary, this. pee r ; whom nobody knew, the bankrupt admitted he had seen twice since the period of the last payment to him. Their Learned Friendli on the other side. laboured under a great misteke, in supposing that ' Abe. Commissioners bad not at all proceeded to en. quire into the general state of the bankrupt's atrides t They had done so and, if it were not that in os doing they might be prejudicing. the bankrupt lu a may which might seem irrelevant to the decision of the' question upon the'writ bf habeas Coypus, they could' show, that the whole had been a scene of .plandoeo 'throughout, thite being claims to the amount Of. 10001. with not mere than 15001. epplidahle to a , dividend ;that, 'en the very eve of bankruptcy, the bankrupt had made large purchases of wine, on credit, and immediately sold the same again for ready money, of which there was a great defalcation: ..-rOne item in the accounts runs thus--r' Loss ott wide, 10001." Sir S%MuxL ROMILLT having . replied, • The LORD Cniscai.Lion declared himself to be .dst, cidedly of opinion; that the Cemmissioneis had steppedfar short of that enquiry which they were re. quired to make, and ought to have made. They were to put all proper questions, and there were many questions which, in the circumstances of the case, it seemed proper they should have put, and which they had not put. The bankrupt on such a subject as this, needed not have crimivated himself. Ile might have refused to answer the question, and then the Commissioners would have committed hint for refusing to answer. He had, however, chosen to criminate.hinwelf as far as he could be criminate(' in the transaction; and having done so, the Com missioners ought to have gone on with 'all proper . questions calculated to satisfy and confirm, or to re- Move their disbelief, if they then disbelieved the story told by the bankrupt. They ought, to have asked 'him, for instance, if he had enquired at the Land lord, or any of the persons belonging to the Plough, in Smithfield, where he went to meet the man, if they knew any thing about him. They ought even, he thought, to have gone on to a very delicate enquiry, namely, as to the name of the woman with whom the connection alluded to as alleged to have taken place, that no means of coming to the truth of the story, which it %vas possible to resort to, might have been neg:ected.— ht these respects, he tholight the Commissioners had been defective in their examination, and there fore that-they must proceed in the farther exami nation of the bankrupt. As to the question, whether the bankrupt should be liberated in the mean time, anxious as he was that no infringement on the liberty of the subject even . for an hour should unnecessarily be occasioned through his means, he must beg the ' short interval between this and twelve o'clock to- Morrow forenoon to make up his mind upon that subject. He had no hesitation in saying, the question as to the satisfactory and unsatisfactory na lure of the answers given by the bankrupt being now removed from the tribunal of the Commissioners to that of his Lordship, that upon him new must de volve the task of saying whether the examination was or was not satisfactory to his ;mind. There were very suspicious circumst ances about the case, but his Lordship should take care that his mind should not be swayed by a single circumstance arising out of the four corners of the warrant of commit ment. As to the bankrupt's not being able to fi nd Lout the Cloy, there was nothing in that ; the boy was not a messenger employed by him ; and as to his not .being able to produce the notes which he had re ceived from the, man, demanding the second pay .ment t instead of thinking that a suspicious circum stance, his Lordship should rather have expected such a document to have been carefully destroyed than preserved. Having thus far relieved tho -ques tion, he must take till-tomorrow to decide as to the ,question of the liberation of the bankrupt in the mean time; and accordingly ordered that he bo re- Inaiided andabroight up again to-morrow morning at 12 o'clock. DUEL PREVENTED.—Iti consequence of a mis understanding and wtrm altercation at the County Court-house, on Wednesday, between Counsellors O'CoNsti.t. anti NIAGRATII, the parties met early on the following morning, at a field adjoining the Old •Windmill. Mr. O'Gonst.tm, who attended Mr. O'ComsELL, and Mr. BenNETT, who attended Mr. MAGRATII, measured the ground, -aed the parties were immediately placed on it. A. number of Gen- tlemen here interfered, and, after much conversation, Mr. O'GORMAN consented, that the business should be adjusted, on Mr. MAunnu's declaring from his ground, with a loaded pistol in his hand, that he la mented what passed,, and was sorry for it. Here Mr. LEADER threiv in, requesting, that as M. O:CONNELL,was well known to entertain no enmity to Mr. MAGRATIF 'he should say, on coming to his' ground, theibe.was about to fight a man against whom he. entertained no enmity. This proposal treated some pause; but Mr. O'GoltatAtt i at length., on the earnest interference of mutunl friends, as. sented. Loth r Gentlemen then came ou the ground, with loaded pistols. in their hands, and having corn. plied with the above terms, immediately advanced, amidst the loudest acclamations of all .persons pre. tint . . rn! shook bands. They. then stepped into the , iite. carriage, and returned to torn together.--Thus ended an qtfair, which created .a deep iatoveat,4* She'public mind , front tke estimitlost4444 . whie typt Gentlemen sere • - -•- LiGENCE. • Pelt, .of Ma POPPet74 .was not 1 4 1 0. 1 "9 1 :thele ,„•-t! minds. It was net. enough . tf , 4:" • CEItY; Ava.l9. _ itheseei kiiirqbestion pat to • ..t4 i l sswer . TIIE MATTER III , PATON. given mesa bet loth es td 'Stove eatieisitsity:to the , Ile an applkadon on the s...ommteemetif ift er, they,f l ad com pi l ed* e g t h allowed to prove a debt , the, intAniic exidea4, l assi.alle with walaiwaic and * this e, ipt estate of Paton; collatrAl„ciTcpmstances. they coninells wreeg. th e Mayor was a bill-broker, ;Ind . ,. 'ooitcluirov ; . then did the remedy lie to hit lordship; .A tem d e l, g the habit • of procuring or, if ItnproTiernisstices could be traced to them, then. row er ; tp o itleman of the name of might their conductlie made the subject of judicial and retorp his he did, not oat of his enquiry . lir an aitioti'at law: There were; In the The Plaint nnt• hnt hv discounting I transaction In radials :1e which the ezeolestkie oh" Ilene@ of hi N ..• •-• ••••••• a:-.- Wight dSSIZEg. . 1111111" Ava. 16.• • • s4l. M ., p.; it' appeared, that the Pla Witt. wal ateeoening Of fi cer rot - the - Borough o f v .* the . lest General' Electle tt f or that 6. , Ihss Me - Defendant. was a candidate there, rettte,n4 without opposition- to Parliament. Plaintifs claim was for one moiety of th e m. pence of holdings, and of the returA ; the Defeild. ant objeeted that by law he could not be Called 04 for more than oneLthied of the expellee of the hits , . f inns, there being three candidates ; and that, es t , t h e re t orts the Plaintiff was 'bound to make itorit4. out any remuneration from the Defendant. On the former point it did not appear, In tic{ that there were three candidates, or that the ex: erekting the hustings exceeded those n! ma* feemerelection, always paid for bt the Candi. eaten. • To the latter objection, a letter from the Defend: ant to the Plaintiff was read, in which the Dafeada n , stated, that "he should be very ready to .pav share of the charge of the return, in the same manzo r -as was'wmat in other boroughs in that part of 'le ;minty." The Plaintiff then proved, that the d.. mend made by him was comsiderably less than the usual charge of a return for other boroughs. The. Court remarked, that, after the latter, it 4* sot a handsome defence to the action, and matt' the Jury to find for the Plaintiff, %With they " • POLICE. . . UNION•SALG—Ann Smith, a woman upwards of 70 years of age, was charged by Mr. Barber, a ' pawnbroker, in the Borough, with stealing six gowns and several other articles, his property. Mr. Barber stated, that be had frequently of late missed articles out of• his shop which he could not accoout for : the Prisoner was a customer, and oftent cone to the shop, but lie had not the least suspicion that she was the thief till Weduesday morning last,_ obeli she came as usual to pledge some trifling article, and immeditittly after she had quitted the shop he missed a gown which he had just before ehung op near the door. On the Friday after, she came again'; and soon after she quitted the ,shop, he missed another gown ; he followed the Prisoner, who, on perceiv ing him, dropped the gown, which she had concealed under her clothes. Mr. Barber detained her, and sent for Goff, who came and took her into custoflv. On searching her, he found a number of duplicates for articles pledged at other pawnbrokers, many of which agreed in description with those missed by himself; and those pledged at Mr. Barber's proved to be articles stolen from other pawnbrokers: It appeared that the system pursued by the Prisoner for some time past had been to contrive, whilst pledgto; an article at one shop,• to pilfer something which she afterwards p!edged at another. She was fully ;cont. mitted for trial at the uext Assizes. Itl.l3oßoucit-sTttErr. — The Performers of the Pantheon Theatre, appeared at this office yesterday to answer to the charge preferred against them of acting without a licence, lnit in consequence of the absence of their Counsel on the Circuit, the chnsi duration of the case wasadjourned by agreement. Couoarm's Isoursco-4Ast week, as Mr. Salter, a young man, about 48 1 years of age, sets of the Pro prietor of Chad's Welis p at ,Battle-bridge, was pass ing through the turnpike on his way to Kentish Town, he was suddenly seized with a fit of coughing, i.by which he burst a blood vessel, and immediately afterwards expired. He was instantly conveyed home to his mother's residence at Chad's Wells, where an Inquest was accordingly held the next day, before G. flonosoN, Esq. Coroner for Middlesex, and a respectable Jury, when, after a short deliberation, a verdict was returned—Died by the Visitation of Got/.--ft is very remarkable, that his wife died a ew days ago, in the 28th year of her age. There are three orphan children left to deplore their loss. INFAMOUS HOAX.—A short time since, Mr. Wright, a Magistrate for the county df Essex, who resides near Chelmsford, and who is a considerable land holder, with a large farm in his own possession, had eleven Merino sheep stolen. Mr. Wright, in order to detect and bring to punishment the depredators, advertised a reward of 2001. to be given upon con viction of the offenders. Early on Tuesday morning Mr. Wright received a letter by the post, purporting to be written by Mr. Norris, the post and coach master of Woolwich, stating, that if Mr. Wright would come to him as soon as possible, he could tell him where six of his sheep were, and also the two men who pid beep seen driving them Repose the country. In consequence of this, Mr.:%Yriglit set of with all -possible speed, imetook the precaution of first going •to Bow-street, where he engaged Vickery to accom pany him. They proceeded to Woolwich, and on getting an interview with Mr. Norris, Vickery knowing him personally, began talking with him ft. mitiarly on the subject of the stolen sheep and the rcb bers, at which Mr. Norris appeared all amazement ; and on his being told the cause of their calling o I him, he requested to have a sight of the letter. On perusing it, he declared that the whole vase gross for gery, and of course a trick upon Mr. Wright..-Mr. Norris stated the letter to be in the same hood-writ ' ins as a similar letter which bad been sent t.) a Gen tleman in a distant part of the country, uho had been robbed of two - horses, aid 'to which his name .was also forged. By this infamous trick, besides the loss Mr. Wright sustains in the robbery of his sheep, .he was, of course, put to an additional expellee of several pounds. The letters are suspc4led to tsave. been manufactured by some of the convicts. They were put into the Post-ollice at WoolWich. Mr. Aries, rt pedestrian SE* note, ran Ilia miles on Wednesday on .11ounslow Heath, in twelifilstrtes•un: der .halt' au hour, for a wager of 5G gait'-as put blii, • or pay. VI " * . MAAR Irlir. i (IA the'l9 l h lost,' at St. Cleanenes .Churck, i n 9 'yid Nor ton, ivitt .• borylite4Al4anr, dr Lineoles-tna, r tio. i. 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