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, , it t t . . , , 1 i k 1 4 ) P 1 1 A. t 1. I .. 7 1 4 I ... 4 1*, 1 i . 14 ii ; ft 'l l4 t I 4110 ~~ WI WI? ~~ By Mr. S. COCK, Secretary to the Company. Printed for .1. M. Richardson, No. 23, CornMU. TITATRE ROYAL, CON'ENT.OARDEN. RYOUNG most respectfully begs leave to acquaint his Friends and the Public, thia his BENEFIT is tined for TUESDAY, ilw horn instant, when w: 11 be performed the Thy of the IRON CHEST; Sir Edniard - Mottimer, Mr. Young; Helen. Miss Foote; Barbara, Miss M. Tree. Af.er which. BLUE DEVILS; Megrim, Mr. Young. To conclude with the Blusical Puce of THE PADLOCK: Leonora, sliss Paton. Tickets and Pieces for the Boxes to be bed of Mr. Young, 41, Wigmorc-street. se s d„at the Box-office. LECTURES on GALVANISM, &e. in DISEASES of HOT CLI3IATES. Mr. LA IIIEADME„ Medical Surgeon-Electrician, Gratuitous Consulting ditto to the London Electrical Institution, and to the 'llloornsbilry . and Northern Dispensarin, I.L.S. &e., proposes sli.mly to give a Course of Six Lectures on the History, Philoso. pi,y. and Medical Powers of Oalranism, and its beneficial effects • „-in Chronic Disorders. as well es its applicability and salutary infix, ence i 3 the cure of the Diseases of Hot Climates; also on the various auxiliary means successfully employed in his practice, as Electricity, the Air Pump, Vann Air, Vapour aid Sulphureous Vapour l aths; . together with the new Apparatus" he has recently invented, for the purpose of an entirely new mode of treatment in a variety of Acute and Chronic Diseases of the Stomach, Liver and Bowels, Complaints of the Bladder, the Disorders peculiar to Females, Lameness, Deafness, Blindness, &c. These Lectures are intended for the use of Medical Students who are engaged in the Honourable the East India Company's Service, for of those who are going to the West India Islands. America, or the Continent of Europe, The number of Pupils will be limited for the display of experiments, and the illustrations made on dead and living subjects. The Lectures will be concise and practical. as their objeet.is to instruct the young practitioner in the uses of Gal vanism. &c.. and to direct the various inodes in which this power ful remedy should be employed. Some important and aew disco veries will be noticed, and so many facts and results be narrated . (being the result of twenty-three years' experience), as will put scepticism to the blush, and expose the ignorsnceof the vulgar and tae seltishness of the interested. For the Prospectus and T emu of the Lectures application should be made to Mr. La Resume. at his house, No. 31, Southampton ' , row, Russell-square, only by letters post paid. None but those who are going to the East or West Indies. Amc ' . IIC3, or the Continent, wilt be admitted to the First Course ; and Medical Practitioners from the country, and Illedical Students in town. to the Second Course. • The Ilan and Description of the Apparatus for the Exhibition cf Vapour, on a new principle, will be published in the 31eilical Journal fur the next month. . DULL AND MOUTH INN.—lmportant Alterations in the NORTH E R N BOVA L MA 11, COACH LS, under . )ieW Contracts with his Majesty's Postmaster-General, L. The Phblic are respectfnliv Informed, that THE DIRECT EDINRURGH MAIL COACH will leave . the aboie Inn every evening at half-past seven (Sundays ar seven), . and passing through Huntingdon, Stamford, Doncaster, Ferry . bridge Wetherhy, Itoro ug hb r idge. Northallerton, Durham, New eavae:Alnwick, *Belford, Berwick. Dunbar, and Haddington. will arrive at Edinburgh the second afternoon to dinner. It will leave Piper's mail roach office. Edinburgh, every morning at eight, anti • arrive at the Bull and Mouth I nn. London, the second morning at six. The whole distance a ill be performed within 46 hours. in• . eluding all etoppiges, which, for breakfasts and dinners, will be sufficient to enable travellers to refresh themselves thoroughly, and . go the entire journey with facility. Care will also be taken that refreshments shall be provided as are fit for a superiur class of passer ger*. ",,* No attempt having yet been made with any public carriage , to travel regularly so great a distance in so short a time, the pro. pre: tea think it nnessary to give the public every reasonable as. xararce not only of the comfort, but the safety of this conveyance. A mad coach carries few outsides. and can gu a fast pace with mere security : and this will he driven by coachmen selected for their a'iiltity and good character. An ample number of horses have been allotted to this establishment, and tite stages will be very short, to prevent distress and difficulty. The proprietors having entered into this contract solely in compliance with the desire of the Post. • master-General, to improve the Northern Posts.—and as they can only fulfil it by incurring great additional expense, without any certainty of its succeeding as a commercial speculation, they trust to fileir northern friebals (particularly in Edinburgh anti on the great line of road to Inverness, who will gain a day in their course of post with London) to bestow on them that liberal vatmnase which will be so essential to the permanency of thia un. ae,t3kiti g . THE YORK, SUNDERLAND, and EDINBURGH MAIL C. UCH will also leave the above Inn every evening at half-past ees en (Sundays at seven), and, passing through Bal dock. St. Neot's. Stamford, Newark, Ilawtry, Thorn, Snaith, and Selby, w:tt arrive at York the following evening about eight o'clock; whence it will proceed through Eaeingwold, Think, Tontine In Yarn). Stockton, and Sunderland, to Newcastle, where it will Goitre about seven in the morning ; and proceed thence through Norreth, Nt'onler, Coldstream, Kelso, Lauder, and Dalkeith, to Edinburgh, where it will arrive the Mille evening about ball-past nine. This mail coach will leave Edinburgh for London every +venieg at nine o'clock. and arrive at York the following evening be'ore ten, and at the Bull and Mouth Inn, London. the second everieg at half-past ten. Passengers by this mail will be only two nights one between London and Edinburgh, and only one be tween Landon and York, or York and Edinburgh. Passengers who leave Newcastle, Shields, Sunderland, &c. in the morning, sail: be in London in the evening of tile billowing day, being one night only on the road. THE LEEDS, CARLISLE, AND GLASGONV MAIL COACH-will likewise leave the above Inn every evening at half past seven, passing through Bedford. Kettering, 31e/ton Mow hray. Nottingham, Chesterfield, Sheffield, and Wakefield, to Leeds. where it will arrive the following evening at halt.past seven; whence it will proceed through Harewood. Harmwgate, rtprey, Ripon, Learning Lane, Catterick-hridge, Greta-bridge, 13mugh, Appleby. and Penrith, toCarlisle, where it will arrive the second morning about ten 'o'clock: and Hamilton, *home through Langtown. Ecclefechan , Moffat, and Hamilton, to Glasgow, a lint it will arrive the second evening. It will leave Bains' royal 'wail coach office, Cfb.l.7lw, for London, every afternoon at a quarter fast six ; Carlisle, every morning at seven ; and Grearee lintel, Leeds, every evening at ten ; and will arrive at the null and Mouth :nit. London, the following evening at ten. Thus pan. eengees a ill leave Glasgow in the evening, be in Leeds the fel. lowing evening, and in London the second evening ; or, if pas wengers wish to divide the journey, Leeds affords every requisite for that purpose. and coaches leave there for London every morn ing. Passengers who leave Carlisle, Penrith. &c. in the morn ing will be in London in the evening of the following day, being ore right only on the road. All these arrangements will be executed under the personal direction of the Superintendent of Mail Goaches at the General Post Office, and his Assistants. Contractors in the principal Plats. Sherman, London. I Fairbairn and Wilson, Carlisle. 'Piper And Scott. Edinburgh. Barber, and Cattle & 3laeldocke, B •..r. and Son,Olasgow. York. ,;stn and Dodswotth, and Lof- Crossland, Leeds. tus. Newcastle. Pisces may be t iken and pareCa booked for the above royal mail cosehea at the Bull and 31outh Western Coach O ffi ce, No. 4U, Regent:circus, Piccadilly. Take Notice—That. the proprietors of the public carriages who transact their business at these offices will not be answerable for any package, which, with its contents, shall exceed Five Pounds is yalee, if lost nr damaged , . unless the value be specified, and an in anratie paid over and above the common earriap, when delivered litre, or to any of their offices or agents in the different parts of the ikiegdom. 31 ay 2, 1825. • • ST. KATHARINE DOCKS. Just published, price 24. OBSERVATIONS upon the " CASE of the LONDON DOCKS." " Audi alteram mum." Said by J. M. Richard con, 23.Cornhill. THE LONDON DOCICCASE. Just published, price 2s. Rd. a Second Edition of • IPHE CASE of the LONDON DOCK COMPANY, 1 with Remarks on the " Observations upon the Case" pub lished y esterday . This day, octavo, as. Gd. AWYERS and LEGISLATORS; or, Notes on the 14 American Mining Companies. '• A arrange and • strong Defusion it is. wherewith thesr men Have brwi•ehed the U'urld ; a forcible spirit of Nrror it must heeds be, which hath brought men to such a monks* and unreasonable persuasion as this is.' —Hooker. Printed for John Murray. Albenterie-street. CHANCERY PRACTICE. .This des, is published, by J. and W. T. Clarke, 14to Booksellers, Portugal-street, Lincoln's Inn, In 2 vols. Uro. juice IL 10s. in boards, THE PRESENT PRACTICE and COSTS in the ItIGH COURT of CHANCERY, with practical Diree tims a litroarint for the Use of Bartioters and Guidance of the higicitur to the conducting . of a Cause. from the Commencement to Its Close ; and in conducting Proceedings in Lunacy and matter a under the Jurisdiction dr the Court, or of the Lord Chancellor ; in which the Practice of the Court, and particularly before the Master, is fully replanted; containing a valuabletullectiou of useful Pre cedents, with the addition of the Dlo .ern Cases. By S. TI;RNER, Solicitor. Sixth Edition, considerably enlarged and improved, by Robert %/enables, Esq. one of the Clerks in Court in the Chancery (Nike. This gay is publiabod, in 12ino. price rel. in boards, ►HIE FIFTH VOLUME OF THE VILLAGE 1 PREACH ER. a Collection of SHORT PLAIN SER MONS, partly origins!, partly schtcted, and adapted to Village lostroctir.n. By a CLERGYMAN of the CHMICH or ENGLAND. Prated for C. and .1. Rivingtou, St. Paul's Church-yard, and Waterloo-place, Pall-mall. Of whom may be had, he Four First Volumes of the collo Work, price 50. each. • .ARLL IMENTARI INTELLIGENCE. P. HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, Masi!. Mr. Marton. from the India House. presented the monthly ac counts of salaries, pensions, and gratuities, granted by the East India Company. CATHOLIC CLAIMS. Lord KENYON presented a petition from the Inhabitants of the Town of Knighton, in Radnorshire, against the Claims of the Catholics. The Duke of MONTROSE presented a petition of a similar flatus.. from the Burghers of Glasgow, aigned by 1,200 persons. Lord COLCHEn'f ER presented a petition to the same effect, from the Borough of Colchester. The LORD CHANCELLOR presented petitions of a similar nature, from Ashton, near Birmingham. and from Dudley. The Malloy of BATH and WELLS presented a petition to the same effect. from the independent congregation of Protestant Dis senters of Ebenezer Chapel. in the parish of St. Mary, in the town of Marlborough. The Right Reverend Prelate observed, that it hail never fallen to his lot to present a petition with more sincere pleasure thari on the present occasion. The petitioners expressed theit gratitude to the Church of England for the toleration they enjoyed ; and this expression was equally creditable to both parties, as it allowed the opinions of the Dissenters towards the Church, and also what the conduct of that Church towards them had been. There were two points relative to the petition, on which he felt it necessary to remark. The first was, that sonic female names were signed to it ; and the other was. that several names *ere signed by the same hand. When he noticed this circumstance, he inquired the reason of it, anti he was informed that on such occasions it was usual for the deacon to sign for all those who could rot write. He would. however, only present the petition at the petition of those by whom it was signed. He requested that it might be read, as it was most properly and respectfully worded, and was highly deserv ing the attention of their Lordships. The petition was then read. Lord KING said, he had likewise to present a petition from a body of Dissenters ; but it was of a nature very different to that resented by the Right Reverend Prelate: The petition was front the Unitarians of the town of Taunton—a respectable body, and an honest body of Dissenters. lie could scarcely comprehend the petition of the Right Reverend Prelate, because Its meaning was involved in such a multiplicity of worth , . Such was not the case with the petition he (Cord King) had presented. He was glad the petitioners had expressed their sentirusnts as they had done, because a retloubted Doctor of Dublin was firing off a double ba.tery at the Catholics for believing too much, and at the Unita rians ter not believing enough. The Bishop of BATH and WELLS said, he was glad that the Noble Lord had no other objection to the petition tram Marlbo rough than that he did not understand it; but the Noble Lord must be aware that petitioners were not obliged to select only such epithets as might suit the comprehension of the Noble Lord. Lord KING said that he had not complained of not understand ing the petition; he had complained that its sense was buried under an enormous quantity of words. The petitions were severally laid on the table. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he felt it necessary to allude to a petition (the petition from Portland) which he had pre sented to their Lordships on the preceding evening, and to state that the Gentleman (Mr. Bankes), whose name had been coupled witla his in the observations of a Noble Earl (Grosvenor), knew nothing of the petition farther then that it was regularly trans mitted to him. ATTAINDER BILL. On the motion of Lord HOLLAND, the second reading of the Attainder Bill was deterred front Monday to Frick) , next. EQUITABLE IA)AN BILL. Lord HOLLAND presented a petition front the Artisans of ‘Volvtrhampton, in favour of the Equitable Luan Bill.—Laid on the table. The House then adjourned. HOUSE OF CO3IMONS, FRIDAY, Ms: 6. WESTERN SHIP CANAL. Mr. BARING presented a petition front Taunton in favour of the Western Ship Canal. A petition was presented from Poole against it. NEW STREET BILL. A petition was presented from the parish of St. Mary.la-bonne, in Vestry assembled, against the New Street BiU.—Ordered to lie on the table. SLAVERY. Mr. BERWICK presented a petition from New Sarum, praying tilt. measures might be taken for the total abolition of the Slave Trade. COMBINATION LAWS. Mr. MANSFIELD presented a petition from the operative Ar tisans of Leicester, against any alteration of the Combination Laws. Mr. BARING also presented s petition concerning those Laws. The petition he ht Id in his hand he considered as of soma impoit ante ; it wits from the Ship.caulkers in the employ of M Mr/. Sue. ling and Young, stating that they were perfectly satisfied with dleir wages, but, in consequence of not belonging to the Thames Corpo ration of Caulkers, they were liable to continual insults from those who combined against their masters. They therefore threw them selves on the protection of the House, and prayed that such mea sures might he adopted as would secure them the reward of their own laboer, and prevent them from being put in actual fear of, losing their lives by the malice of those who were discontented. Referred to the Committee on the Bill. Mr. lICME presented a petition from the Joint!" of Dublin against the Combination Laws.—Referred to the Committee. CATHOLIC FETITIoN!z. Mr. MANSFIELD presented a petition front the parish of St. Margaret, Westminster, against any further Concessions to the Roman Catholics. Air. P. COR BET presented a similar petition from Shrewsbury. Mr. BASTARD presented similar petitions front St. John's, Exeter, 'Pelf...mouth. and other places to Devonshire. Mr. IIUsKISSON presented a petition from the Unitarian Christians of Liverpool, praying that further concessions be made to the Catholics. Mr. ATWOOD presented a petition against any further cuw.. ...W.., being made to the Romun f'stholies. ASSESSED TAXES. Lord EBRINGTON presented petitions front certain parishes In Devonshire. against the House and Window Tax. Mr. BARING presented a similar petition. CORN LAWS. Mr. NE,WIIIAN presented a petition from Devonidiire, praying that Protecting Duties might be Unposed on Foreign Corn. Mr. CURTEIS presented a petition from East NViustead, in Sussex, against any alteration of the Corn Laws. COAL DUTIES. Mr. BASTARD presented a petition from lludborough against the duties on coals tarried coastwise. Mr. P. S3I ITU presented a similar petition from the Chamber of Commerce at Drogheda. DUTIES ON OIL. _ . Mr. W. OORDOIN presented a petition from the owners of ships engaged in the whale fishery, praying that the duty on fo reign oil and rapeseed might be continued. SI'KES supported the petition. Mr. HUSKISSON thought that the system they had hitherto pursued absurd in the extreme, and It was about to cease by the removal of these duties. The duty on rapeseed was not Imposed for the interests of the whale fishers, but as a boon to the agrieul tuial interest, which was at that time in great distress. lie did not wish to distress those who had entered into the speculation, calcu. lating on the continuance of the duties ; but he thought that by postponing the removal of the duties till January, sufficient time was granted. Mr. HUMS perfectly agreed with most of what had fallen from the lion. Member; but he thought it would be but justice to postpone the removal of the duty till January or October twelve. months. ... _ Mr. CURWEN did not see lefty the public should suffer for the sake of tho s e gentlemen who hail entered into these specu lations. Mr. BRIGHT took this opportunity of asking the Right lion. the President of the Board of Trude when the duty on olive oil would be removed ? . . Mr. 111TSKISSON said (as we understood) that it would be as soon as possible after the passing of the Bill. After a few words from Air. SYKES, Mr. Lewis, and Mr. GOR DON, the petition was laid on the table. 111 R. GOUR LAY. Mr. S. WORTLEf presented iipetition from Mr. Gourlay, praying that a Commission might be deputed to examine into his tteatment.—lt was ordered to be printed. LUNACY TRAVERSE BILL. TIAI3III was read a second time, and committed for Mon day nest. BANK OF ENGLAND. ,/ Mr. GRENFELL begged to put the lion. Gentleman opposite )b him (31r. Manning) iu mind that he had last Session proposed to call upon the Bank to show the amount of paper that they had issued. - It was then opposed on the ground that although it had been customary before op posed to do so, yet that the House had no longer the right to demand it, as cash payments had been resumed. He wished now to make a similar motion, but wished to know whether there would be any objection to the proper documents be- Ing laid before the House? - 31 r. MANNINO. :we understood to say, had not, since the pe riod alluded to by the lion. !ember, had occasion to change his opinion. Ile thought the (louse had just as much right to call upon a privatelaoker to pr:aduce lila accounts to the !louse. SCOTCIriTDDICATURE BILL. On the motion of the LORD ADVOCATE, the House re solved itself, pro forma, into $ Committee on the Scotch Judicature Biti. After a few words from Mr. KENNEDY ina Mr. A umw, the House resumed, the Report was brought up, and ordered to be taken into conairieration on Monday w..ak. CLYDE AND GLASGOW NAVIGATION RILL Mr. HUM` presentedileWtiOn against the Clyde and Glasgow Navigation Bill, from the merchants and others of Arbroath and a simiLsr one from certain inhabitants of Aberdeen—Referred to the Courroittee on the Bill. ISLE OF MAN. Mr. HERMES brought up the Report of the hie of Man Bill. After a few words from Mr. Cu awt sr, Mr. HUME inquired whether any agreement which might be concluded between the Commissioners and the Duke of Athol was to be reported to the House before it should be carried into direr. Mr. (BERRIES said there were two inducements for making the proposed repurchase from the Duke of Athol one was the gloat inconvenience which resulted from his having an interest in . l'H 'IIRITIgTI w I. the revenue of the Island—the other the pressing request to that effect made in petitions to the House from the House of Keys. and other inhabitants of the Isle of Man.—The Report was then re ceived. PROVINCIAL BANKS—IRELAND. Mr. S. RICE presented • petition from the Members of the Chamber of Commerce in Limerick, in favour of the Irish Pro vincial Banks Bill.—Ordered to be printed. TRANSFER OF ESTATES. Mr. COURTENAY brought in a Bill to consolidate the laws for regulating the Transfer of Estates. The Bill was read it tirvt and second time, and Ordered to be printed and committed on Monday nest. CHANCERY COURT—IRELAND. - Mr. GOl'LltUlts brought up the Report of the Irish Chan cery Court Bid. The Report, with ihe Amendments, was agreed to, ordered to be engrossed, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time on Monday next. ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL—COMMITTEE. Mr. BROUGHAM moved the Order of the Day, that the House resolve itself Into a Committee on the Roman Catholic Relief Bill. On the question that the Speaker leave the Chair, lieneral GASCOYNE said he must enter his protest, as far se it went. against the proposed concession. It struck him, though per. haps not noticed by other Honourable Members, that the Bills for the disfranchisement of the 40s. freeholders, and for pensioning the Popish Clergy, must beconsidered as component parts of the pre sent measure. The principle of the Disfranchisement Rill he took to be this, that the landlords exercised such an undue influence over the minor fresholthers aerendered them incapable of exercising their votes. Now every one must feel that it was inconsistent with the nature of things that the landed proprietor should not, in a great degree, influence his tenants. If such a principle were there fore once acted on, where was the line of demarkation ? who could tell the exact point at which they were to stop ? (Hear, hear.) Another reason for his opposition was, that no Honourable Mem ber could hone to see, however long he may expect to live. the Dis franchisement Bill carried into effect, for, according to its provi. don, every 411 s. freeholder was to enjoy his rights during the con tinuance of his lease. Of these freeholds there were 250.000. so that the House was called on to pass a Bill which was to have im mediate effect, in consideration of another Bill not to come into play until these 2:4h.000 ceased to exist or their leases expire. lie further begged to call the attention of the House to the Bill, to bringin which leave was given. llt was suggested that leave wasnot given tobring in a Bill; A was merely a Resolution."( Well (continued the Hon. Member). has not a Resolution the same effect as a Bill ? So he always considered it. Well, to that Bill or Resolution, whichever they pleased to call it, he would remark, that if any Minister of the Crown gave his assent that a sum not less than half a million be paid to Popish Priests, he would hold that Minister responsible for such conduct, and he supposed the Noble Lord (Lord L. Gower) did not introduce the measure without such assent. The Minister either had or hail not the concurrence of his Majesty, and he thought that assent must be had ere they adopted a course that must infringe on the Constitution of the country. If, then, the 'assent of his Majesty were given, he considered it equivalent to a declaration, that if the Bill passed through both Houses of Par. }lament, it should receive the Royal Assent, lie did not mean to deny the axiom of the Constiution, that the King could do no wrong; at the same lime he thought there was imposed on him a restriction not to do any thing which was injurious to hie sub. jests. Nothing, however, was lately heard of the Noble Lord's measure ; it passed on like a flank company, without firing a shot, and he trusted they should hear no more of it. The Hon. Mem. ber, after some further observations, said the question before the the Howse was never so unpopular as now ; he was convinced the feelings of six sevenths of the country were hostile to it. lie implored the House, unless they were lost to all consideration, to observe the situation in which they were now placed. There must be soon a de ' mine of Parliament (No. and a laugh). He meant a constitutional death. (A laugh.) In the course of things it must expire after next Session ; he had no wish for its dissolution (hear, hear) ; neither did he entertain any apprehensions. A new Parliament must soon assemble, and was the House sure that it would approve of our act in granting concessions to the ,Catholics ? May we not (said the Honourable Member), be placed in such a situation as to require all the weight of Ministers to carry down the question with the new Parliament. So great were his apprehensions, that lie thought Ministers should, in the event of the Bill passing through the Commons—and there existed a probability of its passing the House of Lords—so great, he repeated, were his apprehensions, that he thought Ministers, to prevent such a misfortune to the country, should advise a dissolution of Parliament forthwith. The Honourable Member went on to say, that nothing could be so un popular as the payment of the priests; anti from every tiling lie read, heanl, of saw, there was no more c alculated to render the emanci pation of the Roman Catholics so unpopular, as attaching to it a provision that the Popish Clergy be paid by the country. Ile though the Ministers acted unadvisedly, if not rashly, in assenting to the introduction of that measure, the more particularly as they had shortly to meet another Parliament before long, when perhaps the country, owing to their conduct, would he thrown into a state of anarchy. He did not see any at. &tricot whatsoever in support of the Relief Bill, from the situa don of Ireland, or the dread of disturbance in that country ; be it ever so turbulent, it could not be much worse than it has hitherto been. (A laugh.) Certainly not worse than it was 20 years ago, when rebellion raged throughout it. It was a strange circumstance that the House should - now be engaged in conferring a boon on the cattelics after it thought it necessary for the peace and security of the ehuntry ao suppress its favourite assembly ; and it came with a bad grace from the Attorney general for Ireland that he should, when moving the third reading of the Association Bill, give notice of the intention to introduce the present Bill. -Tbe Roman Catholics said the object of the Association was to procure eman cipation. The conduct now pursued towards them was like that adopted towards a child climbing up by •rope to come at a cherry or any other sweet thing, and who Iwas told riot to procestim that way lest he may break something or Mart himself, and that if he con sented to rest quietly he should get the obj ect of his pursuit. The Hon. Member for Armagh (Mr. Brown ow) had stated, that if these Bills passed lie had no objection to the measure or Catholic Emancipation; but he (General Gaacoyneh contended that they were going into a Committee, without being aware ef the consti tutional danger which attended those Bills, and which had totally changed the nature of the question. And even supposing that the passtarg of these accompanying Acts formed a security, why, he would ask, were they retarded , and why were they calla upon to pass the Catholic Relief Bill, without any guarantee that the other Bills would receive the consent of that House along with it ? After alluding to the opinions of the people, and expressing his ream that the House world find the people of England were not so well inclined to this measure, as same lion. Gentlemen had asserted, the gallant General concluded by saying, that although he had felt it his duty to state his objections to the principle of the Bill, he would not oppose its going into a Committee. Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE said, lie hoped he would be able to convince the House that a revision of their decision should take place in this stage of the proceedings. This measure legis lated upon legislation, and went to repeal an oath solemnly taken by the Members of the House la the presence of each other, and which doubtless every Member recollected ; but in case any Mem. ber might not be perfectly in possession of the precise words, be would take leave to ask that the Clerk of the House do read the oaths of Abjuration and Suprenacy, before he proceeded. (The lerk then read the oaths). Now if it turned out that the passing of the Bill would clearly violate that oath. he thought there could be no doubt as to the result of tbequestion of its being committed. lie looked at the objection with regard to the oath in two points. The first was, that every Member, when he was elected to a seat in that House, entered into at implied contract with the people of England, that he would support the Constitution in Church and State as it existed at the moment of his election. And he appre hended that »o one could gm rid of that contract, because the people were aware of what the Milt were at the time they sent a Member to that House, for they were not so ignorant as some per sona for the sake of argument had hinted—they knew and thought, and he had no coubt they were sensible, that Members could not proceed in support of this Bill with.. out violating the oath they had taken. But there was another, and he thought a more forcble' argument. In the terms of the oath they bound themselves to resist the interference of any foreign Prince in all matters spiritual anti ecclesiastical, and yet they were about to give their consent to the formation of a Com mittee of Bishops before engaged by oath to serve and obey a fp reign Sovereign. He apprehended that this was a difficulty the House could not get over, dithout violating the oath by which they were bound. And lie defied any one, although he might defend et on some ground of technicality, !Gl:support it in the sense of plain,' honest, feeling. (Hear.) And he must continue the hope, al. though he contained it was a taint one, that they would pause and consider betore they consented to stultify the proceedings of Parlia ment. li - hen lie looked to the pet-amble, which said so much upon permanence and inviolability, he felt himself bound, although, he knew the talent by which it would be supported by the Honourable Beronet (Sir F. Burdett) whom he did not now see in his place, and the power by which he might be answered by the Honourable and Learned Gentleman on die floor (Mr. Brougham) who could give to any measure a character and appearance which did nut belong to it. He felt it, he repeated. his duty to pull that preamble to pieces, and expose the inconsistency of those who framed it. This preamble commenced by declaring an intention to preserve inviolate the Church and State as at present established but did the [louse recollect that there was is c a use in the Act of Union with Scotland, excluding all Papists from being returned as Members from Scotland ? so that in the event of the Bill for the Relief of the Roman Catholic% passing into a law, they would have the strange anomaly of Papist Members being returned from Ireland and not from Scotland. lie would not, however, dwell' longer upon this parted' the preamble, but pass to another, where, after speaking of the sacrifice of mass, it goes on to say that spi. ritual and religious belief shall not affect the allegiance of his Ma jesty's subjects. Why is it that they arc called upon to make that provision ? Why...on account of the creed of the Roman Catholics. a great. 1 which, and he honoured them for it. they would - support even to their death; hut a creed which bound them to . pay alle giance to a Foreign Sovereign in all matters, both 'primal and teritpordi. To talk, therefore, of allegiance, unless they meant a divided allegiance, was to speak in terms diremly the opposite of truth. A great deal of talent and ingenuity had been exerted to contradict the proposition of the Pope's spiritual and temporary authority ; but if the Catholics consented to take the oath of sum*. wary in temporal matters, lie did not know why they could object to the spiritual, unless, as they had said, they would rather not. Bad, however, any staunch Papist been ever asked to utio. , this oath ? Ile would venture to arty that no one would take it,' (Hear.) Unless he misiolerstooth the nature of their faith, (hear, hear,) which perhaps he did, (hear, hear, hear,) he. would venture to say that no seer* Papist would. In the evidence of Doctor Doyle be found that the Right Revesend • • Prelate, upon being asked if he had taken an oath to the the Pope, replied that he lied ; but upon being questioned as to the nature °fit, extraordinary tosay, he was utiable to recoils: any Part &f it—any portion of that oath upon which the whole ob jection,' connected with that part of the question hinges. lie (Dr. Doyle) said, however, that he could get a pontitical. He ( Sir T. Lethbridge) did rot know what that meant, but that he could get a pontifical—he supposed a copy of the oath from the Vicar Apostolic, who was at that time in town. No one. however, had sten that copy, or knew whether it had been presented, but he had procured a copy himself, which he would read to the House, with out, however, pledging himself for its accuracy, although he be lieved it to be true : "I swear from this time to be faithful and obedient to the Dead of the Church of Rome; to assist to the utmost of my power in supporting and preserving the tenets of the Holy Roman Catholic faith; to observe and obey, and assist in making others observe and obey. the ordinances of the Sovereign Pontiff, and to receive all his canons and ordinances, as well as the decrees of the Council of Trent." (low could these Bishops. after taking this oath, abjure by another the Pope's temporal au thority ? Was it not almost compelling them to perjure them selves ? But he would not pursue the subject farther. He thought it 3 very material point, and that the framing of such a contradictory Aet was not very creditable to the wisdom of Par liament. There wee. however, another point with regard to the Committee of Bishops, upnn which he wished to offer a few ob servations. In that Council which was called upon to advise the Sovereign, there were no Protestant Counsellors, as in former Bills—they had it all their own way, and were permitted to rev late all matters connected with church and State, uncontrolled even by the Sovereign himself. How unlike such a proceeding was the practice of their forefathers ? they went upon the principle of security. The Protestant Gentlemen of the present day too profess to supp rt the Protestant Church and State, as by law established; but he would tell them, that by consenting to allow such a Commission of Bishops, they were acting as inconsistent with these feelings, and as much at variance with their profession, as the East is removed from the West. Foe these Bishop', if any thing favourable to the Government came to their knowledge, were to communicate it to his Maiesty ; but if any thing tresses,- able came to their knowledge—if any thing inimical either be Church or State came to their knowledge, they were allowed to keep it to themselves. In short, if ever there was a Bill full of vicious principles in legislation. it was the o,e they were now called noon to consider in a Committee. He had thus, although very ineffeetually. he feared (hear, hear), endeavoured to guard the House against the consequences to he apprehended from this measure; and he would not now detain the !louse much longer. One or two observations, however, he would take leave to add, from the indulgence with which he had alreatly been favoured. It I had been said that the Catholics were different now from what they had been about a century ago in Ireland; but he denied that point, and contended, that the more they inquired, either in Irelandli or on the continent of Europe, with respect to the feelings of the Catholics, the more they would be convinced nut only that their feelings and principles remained unchanged, but that they had acquired strength by time. Ile had. it was true, examined the evi. dente taken before the Committee, and seen in it much which militated against such an opinion, but he could not help ob serving That the witnesses seemed to have one general feeling, and to he carefully looking to the main chance. Such was his con , elusion. although it might bear, ignorant one. He hid, however, selected one or two observations from Dr. Doyle's evidence, which might tend to support his opinions. The Hon. Bart. here read several parts of Dr. Doyle's evidence, in which he stated that the Pope, even in the case of a provision being made for the Catholic Bishops, had a power to appoint to the See--that he had the power to make ordinances and regulations without the consent of the King—that he had had the nomination of Bishops since the end of the reign of the Stuarts ,• and that the power could not be separated from the I'apal Chair. The question of provision for the clergy had been, lie rather thought, put an end to, but he would ask how they would like such an interference in the disposition of Sees endowed by English generosity ? If the Roman Catholics were admitted into Parliament, would they not seek a restoration of the property which they supposed to have been wrongfully wrested from them ? To show that the tenets of the Roman Catholics of the present day were the same as those of the Roman Catholics of former periods. he would state the instance °in fanner lately, in Yorkshire, who was tenant to a Roman Ca tholic, one of the conditions of whose lease was, that prayers by et Protestant Dissenting Minister should rot be said in his house.— He would also beg to adduce the conduct of Doctor Troy, Roman Catholic Archbishop of Dublin, who published a pastoral letter in Dublin. In which he permits the reading of the Scriptures only when accompanied with Dona,' annotations. In those notes would be found such sentiments as discouraging communion or society with any sect of Christians who differed front them, the Roman Ca. tholics. It inculcated the burning of all heretical books, inclusive of the Protestant Bible; it inculcated further an avoidance of Pro testants, as their ways were contagious, and said that their prayers reached not the kingdom of Heaven, and were not more re than the howling of wolves.—(Hear. hear! and a laughri d re might easily quote many similar passages, but this was, he thought, sufficient to trip up and overturn the arguments of those who con stantly said that the Roman Catholics of the present day were dif ferent from those of former days. He was glad to address this 'te gument to the House in the presence of an Honourable Member fSir J Sebright), whom he saw crossing the floor, and who, on a ormer night, declared that he was ashamed to see the House of Commons discussing the Roman Catholic question In NU (Ilear, front Sir J. S., accompanied by loud cheers from both sides of the House.) He too (Sir T. la) was ashamed to see the !louse consent to a measure which was calculated to destroy the present security of the Protestant Establishment. He begged to rentioa the House of the answer of their late uoveielgu on tieing applied to on this subject soss said he, " to descend from the throe. I am ready to repair to the retirement of a cottage. I and even, if necessary, to lay my head upon the block, but I am not prepared to violate my oath." He too had taken an oath which lie would not violate ; and he begged lion. Gentlemen to remember, that, in consistency with the oaths they had taken, they could not agree to a single clause in the Bill now before the (louse. (Hear. hear.) Sir J. EBRIGHT rose to repeat what had fallen from him on a romper night ; there was not, he thought, the shadow of argu ment tbr resisting the measure of Emancipation. So far from being ashamed of what find fallen front him on a former night, it was a sentiment which lie repeated, and which he was proud of. (Hear, hear.) Mr. G. PELHA M made a few observations which were not distinctly audible in the gallery. Mr. Secretary PEEL perceived there was a pretty general im pression prevailing that the sense of the House would not he taken on the question of the House going into a Committee. lie believed that he (Mr. Peel) had himself contributed to create that impres sion, and lie now should not do anything to contravene it. He was happy that the Honourable Member for Somerscahire haul not ex pressed his intention to oppose the Speaker leaving the Chair. Many Members were absent on both sides, and it was besides the more unnecessary to press a division on the question of the House going into a Committee, as on the question, with Its alterations in a whole shape on the third reading, he should certainly take the sense of the House. The objections which he entertained were not diminished by his being in a minority ; on the contrary, the objections which he entertained to the simple removal of the restrictions which at present affected the Roman Catholics, were not only not abated, but were confirmed and strengthened by the proposition which the House lately ac ceded to, for making a provision by law for the Roman Catholic Clergy. This would operate as an inducement to divide the House on the third reading; but lie felt himself bound in fairness to abstain from doing so on the question of the House going into a Committee. Mr. B. CLARKE said he was favourable to the treasure of Ca tholic Emancipation. independent of the evidence of Dr. Doyle or Mr. O'Connell, which bad been so much relied upon by other Honourable Members; but no person who took part in this debate leas] said that things could remain in Ireland as they were. If they did, we must lire under a military government; he saw no other state in which it was probable, or even possible. for us to continue. Did we hope to break the spirit of the Catholics, or what slid we propose, he would be glad to know, from our present system of misgovernment ? Are we to keep the people of Ireland in a state of perpetual war with each other? (Heer, hear.) lie spoke thus of a state of peace; but if a stato of war were to come, who were to pay the army? The people of Ireland could not—the people of England must. He entertained no apprehension from the Roman Catholics; he would with confidence entrust the peace of his family, and the security of his property, to the Catholics. But as they were at present treated, the country was miserable, and no person would live in it due could conveniently live out of it. (Hear, hear.) At present no person would risk a shilling of capital in Ireland; but if this measure were to pass, ho was satisfied that capital would flow into the country. Ile had supported the mea sure for suppressing the Catholic Association, and felt anxious therefore to express the conviction he entertained of UlO necapsity of carrying the present Bill. (Hear, hear.) Colonel TRENCH felt es warmly as any person towards his country; lie had a considerable estate there, and was therefore deeply interested in its welfare. The seeds of good government were already sown there. An finmedeate harvest could not be expected to be respect, but he was satisfied that ere long its pros. perity would so advance as to prevent agitators from creating dis turbarce there. The Honourable Member (Mr. 11. Clarke) hasi said that this measure would lead to the introduction of capital into Ireland. lie was happy to inform the Honourable Member, that, to his knowledge, there was already a considerable influx of capital into Ireland. Industry was thus increased_,industry would produce tranquillity—and tranquillity would servo as en induce ment to die investiture of capital in Ireland. His chief objection to the measure of emancipation was the absolute dominion which the priesthood of Ireland—who were a political priesthood—exer eiecti over the people of that country. Another argument that weighed strorgly upon his mind was, that the members of that ambitious religion would not be satisfied with what they at present prayed for, but would aspire to the high situations from which it was proposed they should continue excluded. 11(as had been said) this was a question of feeling with a great portion of the Roman Catholic people, would not their feelings be still dissatisfied by being excluded the Throne, front the Lord Chancellorship, and the Lord Lieutenantcy of Ireland ? Would they not na turally require the Act of' Settlement to be repealed ? It' the Melt Catholics could be educated, his opposition to the measure wonld be abated, if not altogether extinguished. He s ae one of those who could not admire the principles of the Roman Cathollo religion ; and considering the evidence taken before the Committee, which lie (Col. Trench) haul perused attentively, lie was forced to look upon this measure with great apprehension and dread. He was a convert, thought to a different side of the question from that espoused by the Honourable Member for Armagh (Mr. Brownlow). He entataitted a jealousy ageinet prestos educated in foreign eountries,whose principles teere sophisticated and dun edam at • high station in this ttry. tie did not thi n k the meuere of Emancipation would s.it stv she Irish. He believed thet ,y sur e was indiffereht to them until theseveseeVt year s• but he thought the House could no.r do much to tranquilize Ireland. /le alluded to m bea ai r n d t e a tt ed he a G c o h v a e rac nim ,e e nr f t o : , itt h ve t h li r c t : i cl tn is a tinct i f an i d hoi se e pa n ra le.a te s n u i r e e a s sti s r , c7 ou b i e l fo b re e th ap e i li nv o , u sed se,to memy parhamed eTi..1.11 lora joined with what was already done, he thought the present would be at rest for ever. As to the English Catholics, their daims rested upon grounds altogether different. The English (;aiholl;s were insulted by neglect. In Ireland an ignorant Catholic pop u i,„ En and yet they now stood in a worse condition than their Nil le h n ad or al t w 4l ;y n s t. tines, led lish brethren. In conclusion, he called upon lion. Membe rs , if t h e C oll ath b o y lie n s were not prepared to do away with a Protestant Government aYt once to coe decided and set this ;whits:lg question at rest. 3 Mr. BANK Es hoped his acquiescence to the motion for gel s into a Committee, would not be construed into any a rg ,,,,,, e , - „ e g e strong and expression of opinion. with the principle of the measure before the House. He did not oppose the motion for going into a Committee, because he thought this was a measure which ought to be met by a manly and op: ez opposition, and not by the interposition of obstacles of a tern's°. vary nature. (Hear.) Ile did not expect that any a men d ments which could be proposed in the Committee, would obviate the objections to this Bull. Ile opposed it upon principle, and no um_ dilication could satisfy him. (Hear). J. The Dowas n House it hthe en a C resolved itself into a C ommittee, 31r. Min ' The SPEAKER then rose, and addressed the Chairman. n. begged pardon for taking up the time of the Committee, and after the repeated and lengthened discussions which had taken O w on this subject, he disavowed all ides of arrogating to himself design of saying any thing new. He was perfectly aware that in this stage of the Bill it was not within the strict forms of the House, neither was it quite convenient nor correct that any Hon. Member should address himself to the principle of the measure. But as he had no amendments to propose in the Committee, and dill not wish individually to press his opposition to the Rill, he took advantage of what might be his only opportunity. to oblerrethtt his opinion on the measure remained unchanged. Notlspg th at h e h ad heard or read upon the subject relieved his mind om the appre. !tension which he had ever entertained of the dangerous conse. titiehces that might arise from the measure before the House lie was not aware of any amendments to he proposed in the Cont.. mittee, but however painful it might be for hint to differ with a ma. jority of that House, and however painful it might be for him to differ with those whose opinions he ought to respect, and did re. specs, he felt himself bound to express his conscientiou s opposi t i on to the Bill ; and however irregular the time which he had chosen for the expression of this opinion, he felt himself justified by the ,necessity of the Mast. ( Hear, hear.) It was a question which ad. mated of no compromise ; It should be supported or opposed on principle. On principle he (the Speaker) objected to the measure, and lie should be ashamed of himself if he lout neglected to ex. press his decided conviction of its inexpediency. Ile repeated that he was not aware that any alterations or amendments sere to be made in the Committee, and, considering this, lie L. he should not have done his duty if he had given a sil ent vote . Mr. Secretary PEEL observed, that when the Catholic Relief Dill was before the House in 11121, various restrictions were pro. posed. It was proposed to continue the exclusion of Roman Ca. tholics from Parliament. and from his Majesty's Pricy Council. On these exclusions he thought the sense of Parliament had been satisfactorily taken. The principle of exclusion from particul a r offices wan overruled, and the opinion of the House given decidedly against it. the House determined that the innciple of the measure was just, he was not sure that the introduction of restric tions would be expedient. .11e therefore rose to say, that it was not his intention hi reopose ray amendments, excluding Catholics from particular omces. Sir. If. PARNELL begged belay to refer to the obsenrations of an Honourable Baronet (Sir T. Leihbridge) upon the oath of the Roman Catholic Bishops. Whilst the Honourable Baronet referred to the expression of spiritual subiniasion to the Pope. he omitted the passage which expressed the obligation of a Catholic Bishop to hold inviolable allegiance to the King of Great Britain. Mr. S.scretary PEEL thought the oath taken by the Catholic Bishops timid(' have been modified before the House pledged it. self to the measure for affording a stipend to the Roman Catholic Clergy. Sir H. lINEI.L said, that many objections which Teems. rently objectirmable, if properly explained. would prove perfectly harmless. (Hear, bear.) The oath alluded had been explained • by high authorities in the Roman Catholic Church. Sir I'. LETHBRIDGE briefy explained, When the CHAIRMAN put the quest.en upon the first clause in the Bill, After a few words from Mr. TRACT, A Member, whose name we could not learn, in noticing the oath by which the Catholics were to abjure any intention of overturning the established religion of the country with a view to substituting their own, proposed that the word " Protestant" should be intro duced before the words " Church Establishment." ...... Mr. PEI "NfiETT.observed, that the oath contained in the Bill which he had the honour to bring in in the year 1821, was somewhat similar to the present, but it was objected to. Now as seruplea dal exist on the subject, and as he wished to do away with them, to agreed to the oresent form ',loath. and he thought it wise sad es. petlient that the Committee should adopt it. not that he had any ob. jeetion to the introduction of the word " Protestant," but so sure as he lived there would be found those out of doors who would cavil, and ask why did the House use the word " Protestant" as nay other religious eatablishment existed in the country—who would contend that the introduction of such a word amounted to an at:- minion that the House ought not to make. Mr. Secretary PEEL hoped to be able to reconcile his Honour. able Friend who had proposed the introduction of the word " Pro. testant" to the form of the oath as it now stood, for if lie referred to another part of the Bill before the Committee, he would tied that the Roman Catholic was not only to swear that he would not over. turn the Establishment for the purpose of substituting his own sys tem of religion, but that also he was to swear that he wont.' Lot do any act to disturb, in any respect, the existing establishment. He trusted that this second oath would meet the view of his Honourable Friend. Unwilling to raise any arils on the sulijcet, he, for one. would not object to die oath as it stood, but he confessed that he thought it not necessary to call on the Roman Caaielies to declare that they do not hold it justifiable to murder and depose Protester/ Princes, or break faith with heretics. It he were a supporter of the Bill he would object to this oath. for, in his conscience, he did ant impute to his Roman Catholic fellow.subjects the opinions and doctrines which these oaths were intended to guard against. Alt. BROUGHAAI declared that the sentiment just then es. peered by the Right Honourable Secretary, was woerhy of the candid and manly opposition which he offered to the CailitiL Claims ; and he fully concurred with him in thinking that the word Protestant need not be introduced, the words following bee s ; quite sufficient. Ile also concurred in thinking, that with sorer settled mind' it would by received as indirectly implying what was not intended as a " negative pregnant." These extreme wahtilties were to be guarded against ; were It not so, he should coarider it worse than useless. They ought not to call upon the Roman Ca tholics to abjure any tenets excepting those that were peculiar to them. Those which they held in common with others it was in sulting to require them' to abjure. We all, Protestants and l'athe. lies, abjure any intention of seeking to dissolve the monarchy or to overturn the established religion. But there were those who thought that the Catholics ought to be called on to go further, and as they were dealing with persons who entertained such suspicions, they should proceed accordingly, No one could fret the oaths which were sworn at the table ot that !louse without feeling that in swear ing them the' were insulting their Roman Catholic feint...subjects. ( hear). Who now thought that absolution could be given for the deposition of Monarchs or the breach of faith ? One further reason for agreeing to the present oath was that it had been Led before persons of authority amongst the Roman Catholics, and they has. ing approved of it, he would now be unwilling to after. add, or remove a single word.—The amendment was then withdrawn. Mr. B. COOPER was persuaded that the Roman Catholics couki not conscientiously take the oath, and even if they did he would still consider it an insufficient security, for in the year 1761 in valid. Mr. an oath was declared by the Pope to be Mr. V. FITZGERALD wondered that the Hon. Gentleman. in recurring to the year 1767, did not seem aware that this oath had been withdrawn in consequence of the objection which had been taken ; and yet, by permission of the See of Rome, was afterwards , taken by the whole Roman Catholic body, clergy and laity. (Cheers.) They had taken this oath, either by periniuion ot the See of Rome, or in defiance of its authority. lie left tbs Her Gentleman to choose which horn of the dilemma he pleura. At to the view which his Right Hon. Ftiend the Attorney.Gentral fee I Ireland took of the subject, be fully concurred with him in it. Sir J. NEWPORT did tot wish to speak to terms of censure of the individual who framed this oath (Dr. Duigenan`. he D'.t now no more; but he had hoped that when that eery:. had departed this life, the spirit of cavil had died with him. :sew as the oath had been acceded to by persons of authority in the Roman Catholic Church, he would moat decidedly object to an alteration. Giving satisfaction to them by an oath framed by tic most extravagant supporter of their exclus ion, was, lie thoie!i:, measure that could not wisely be objected to. Mr. GOIJLBIIRN defended the view of the subject wife:h. ". been taken by Mr. Cooper, and denied that the oath proposal i. 1793 should be adopted in 1823, if new information had be elicited ; and he pledged himself, when all the evidence win hefac the House. to show, from the examination of some of the Rem - . - . Catholic Bishops, that such further information had been ettei . .:.e ,l as would sustain the opinion of his lion. Friend. Mr. V. FITZGERALD explained. Mr. H. SUMNER said a few wards not audible m the gailcil; Mr. PLI.'NKETT said he did not think he should be ccesiiere. irregular in anticipating what might occur in the Upper 11 °'-`, 1 . : relation to the Bill. If their Lordships should agree to the 1 , 11 . first rejecting the objectionable dewiest. and then send it tack to them in its emended state, he should hail it as a matter of coesaa tulation. Mr. BR(./17011‘1111 said, many millions of individuals to it oleo molt u a necessary condition upon the enjoyment ot t he elec tive franchise, on coming to the bar, precious to taking etßee oc • practising as attorneys. What obstacle, in fact, ex i s t ed ' o l 3;h• , lie coining into the House of Commons but the secur ity afforcti. by an oath which they declined taking ? If Cleamed and takr.t‘ e- Gentleman (Mr. O'Connell) was desirous of coming into Faros ment foe many places—he would not sey in Irellaud, lest he seculd alarm some Honourable 51einbere for that country, but tot wine , place% in England—he Mr. (Mr. B r o ug h a m) thought he nig h . command a sufficiency of 'votes to send him into that Hoot. Why did he not come into the House ? because he declined takiaa; the oath of supremacy. And why should he decline taking IL oath from the observance of which lionourablx Gentlemen asserted