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A avadieralion of therefoci, Howlett that investiptod, sad, at least, ‘' sad practicable, for offestiag that Amos se the ee,b11212- visited. The arumber tboussed, amid they sod 'be %). 11.1111i•od of 000 40 4141priten- or even 1 of such Wier etudes -11ft051271111* iniedition %•aissusimilia 1 evi Ise an *nog wholly in pontobieg sod in favour of Mr. printed. front Manche". , ; sad also a Pe.. Spoiled Stamps Bill. rioted. intention of the Spoiled Stamps is question was it was not iti- Mr. Won. Henry , preying for the inio the applwa. Service, in which he the p►eservatwu of lives were lost in the awasping of the introduction of this' considerable advantage. se not prepared to ray might at be useful, the Hon. Cm reacts far the surprising if these not one should a, who were the the assistance of on the coast, and as any men. He preservers if they foe if • ship woe take to his life lento her fate, to preserve the ordered to be returns were ordered made i■ the several r a certain number goods returned to the was ordered of collection of the their respective from the Clior .Is. . Great Boston, io I insedment Bill. Also for the repeal of 6U tell to the stamp duty rioted. Baakruptey Laeis and pasecti. lllarval, for $ more pat to him a shunt thie—" Whether this country, was , under the provi was entitled to the saki, he was not at to the question po tted hitherto arisen ditieuhy, however, „e Natives of the laniata sobjecir. bet a■ the subjects the Cluvemmcut of g power. ..eading oa the subject eon easaiderable importance, as of these islands ass their eons pitiatis o grievaoces, sad woald be afraid to whether they were or Alien Act. Aid, whatever tit . the smallest danger, mmiast parties comilig Member bad• described. Howourabte Under. her any instructions t►is country to the Dutch Colonies at prevent the to. permitted by the to Mooed/ tor not tiro gallant officer. iolormation be re- that in rising to for mitigating it his duty to condition in which alterations had and amendments as determination for the second ,had adopted a resolution, that tinihment of death apprehended, the reverity of ipunny of the ight he drawn as well as the ; but, likA all liable to be dis. had goo", it principle of the aim principle did sanctioned by the recotemendatitin of .a the experiment had defrauding the revenue, ital punishment Avowed purpose of Instance of bleaching mentioned, a with SkirCeSS.-•-• nesimilar in nature to the aMnce to Sinall as "formation of oar of congratulation had been repralrd Majetty'i •►rign than VI. This was a wood prison • b u t . , punishment . p I .. necessary 10 elser—for according to the Edict of Nantz, that Monarcn, If* .certainly could not be icetisetLe ishetiheuishateat any womanish of death, because it was found ineffectual.—( Hear, hear.) —Great and predominant as was the detesta ble spirit of bigotry at that period in Front*, against Protestants, still Frenchmen could not be found to become the instruments of his atrocities.. He couldscarcely appeal to a stronger illustration of his theory. A better government would be a w example. This was the result of the most saisi l , cious tyranny, and it proved to demonstration, Om . as you render a punishment severe, in the seise proportion do you render it impotent.—(Hear./ —Any man who had turned his attention to the, grounds of legislation, must know that moral priu. ciples were not, like mathematical theories, tug.. versally true ; they were maxims of human ease duct; and to be considered in relation to these wonderful verities, and not to be disposed of like the solitary abstractions of mere speculative science. Thns much fur the principle of the measure. He. regretted the necessity of the exceptions he had introduced, because he was convinced that the universal principle might be adopted ; but it was not for him to despise or disregard the opinions of others. It was sufficient for his present purpose, in bringing forward that great reformatory measure, to confine himself to the case of forgery, and if be should be so fortunate as to succeed in that in. stance, to chew the House and the country that the principle, tried on a limited scale, was quite practicable on a more extended one. The paper of the Bank of England was the only ex• ception in the original Bill. The fact of the reluctance to prosecute was generally admitted ; it was a moral principle, checked or favoured by all the passions of our nature, and was applicable to every variety of crime. In the case of a barba rous murder, there was no man scarcely who would be deturred from prosecutiug ; while in a petty theft, to which the saute punishment was attached, no humane man would come forward. These were the extreme points of the case, all the intermediate' space was filled up with all the varieties of legiala lion. When lie excepted the Bank of Eugland piper, it was not fur the sake of the Bank, but the sa ke of the public. It passed through a variety of hands, the poorest and lowest in the community, and in most instances without the power or time to examine it. But there was no analogy between that and the crime of private'forgery. Private forgery poly affected those who were imniediately parties.— Private negotiable securities never passed through poor hands, but only amongst those who were profes sionally trained to the greatest acuteness.—( /leer, .dear./--'('he same priuciple was applicable, although not in the same degree, to the notes of private bankers, and. they: were omitted in the original Bill, merely en, the ground of the unfre quency of the offence. These were all the conces sions he could make ; after the respectable majo rity that had sanctioned the measure, be could not, without relinquishing the principle, go further. A Petition had been presented from a body of per sons, for whom individually and collectively he en. tertained the highest respect, but he denied that Petition contained uuy thing hostile to his princi ple. It merely prayed that the same punishment might be affixed to private and public forgery, and this was in fact praying for what from his soul he wished he could do, abolish the punishment of death altogether. It had been publicly stated that the punishment of death was inadequate to the 'prevention of forgery. They must have been ac quainted with the fact, and out of their own mouths he drew an argument in favour of his priu ciple, for their very silence on this point proved the impossibility of contradicting it. The next excep- , tion was that of se will.,' and this he felt reluct r antly obliged to concede. The case of wills had one striking peculiarity, that the poincipal, the , best, almost the only witness to prove the forgery, can never be produced ; the very commission of the crime implied the impossibility of, his proving the Tact. He did not know what comic prOperties that observation possessed, to excite the smiles of the Noble Marquis (Londonderry) and the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (the Attorney-General). The Marquis of Lott DONDERaY denied his hav ing smiled at the observation. Sir JAHNS MACKINTOSH resumed. Wills and marriage registers might come within the excep tions. These amendments were all such as should reconcile his opponents, and if he could satisfy the friends of the measure, his object' would be gained. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman then proceeded to remark on the uttering of forged notes, which he said, in consequence of the preliminary &urea tion with which the Bank was invested, and the seve rity of the punishment, was always surrounded with compassion, although he was by no rumps convinced of the total inefficacy of herd labour, as many suppos ed. he thought that imprisonment and bard labour would answer all the purposes of terror. It was very easy to render it sufficiently terrible ; the merest tyrant could do it by increasing the labour and'abstinence; no punishment could, in his opi nion, be more effectual. The law-giver must be barren in invention, and the Statesman deficientiu all the elements of the art he professes, who could not render this punishment at least sufficiently ter rible. These were all the amendments he meant to propose, should the Bill be so fortunate ast to receive the third reading.—(Cheers.) The ATTONNEY•GILNERAL said. that notwithe Mending the anticipations of his Hou. and Learned Friend, the difficulties, at least in his mind, of im proving the law by the present measure, were ra ther strengthened than removed, said it now seem ed to him. that the very supporters of the measure: had abandoned the principle ; and notwithstandimg . the ingenuity of his Hon.. and' Learned Friend, tut appeared to him that the amendinents which WC been introduced proved that the principle was in. supportable...l-( , iVo , wo !" from the ttppositias.) . —He should ask, then, why not extend the excels.' Lions to bills of exchange as well as promissory notes, or to the various stock., govermaeut and others, to deeds or bends, and the power of &Bor. Dry They had equal circulation, and required lie though lk t ibreibil of for mitigating the p us t of called a Bill for palmist out exceptionsahould be taken. The present, was found available to all punishment, timely, the pet ? ( Hear.)—W herever . the circusw sauces of the case called for mitigation of pages' silent it was always extended. In the essa.At burglary, for instance, oue of as common rence and full as enormous as forgery, if a boar. put his hand in through a pane of glass, and stole a watch, although death was the punishment allotted, yet it was left to the discretion of the Executive Government to extend mercy, and ex perience had proved that the system worked Hear, hear !" from the Oppesitionl— and with respect to terror, he knew nothing of the woikinga of the human mind, if a man would not be more deterred from the commission of a crime, knowing that imprisonment awaited it, superadded to the probability of death, than if he were certain that imprisonment only were the extent of the pit. nishment. The introduction of imprisonment and hard labour would, in his opinion, be a most obnoxious measure; it would be erecting a hostile in every county in Englund..—(Hear, hear.)—He should not go into details; he objected to the prin ciple of the Bill, and sbcmuld therefore move that it be read a third time this day six months.. Mr. DENMAN said, if lie failed of being con vinced by the ipgeriious speech of his Hon. and Learned Friend . (the Attorney-General), it did nut proceed from inattention to the arguments on both sides of the question, for oo man could have more anxiously considered that great and important question • as his Hon. and Learned Friend (Sir James Mackintosh) knew, to his cost, for lie had given him no small trouble in Ilia inquiries. This, however, he felt it his duty to do, and he could now say with a clear conscience that all his doubts were fully removed, and if they were not, nothing could induce them to Wpport the measure.--(Hear.) When the Attorney-General said here was a con- cession and there' was an. exception, he (Mr. D.) should say an the part of his Hon. and Learned Friend, as well as ou his own, that they abandoned nothing, that if they could get more they should be glad to take it, but they would be grateful for the Bill even in this mutilated condition.— ( Hear, hear.)—The question was, did the punishment of death prevent crime ? The opponents of the mea sure contended that it did, by means of terror. He and those who. thought with him contended, that it was rendered nugatory by reason of the terror of the prosecutors: The Attorney-General had alluded to the case of a boy stealing a watch, and endeavoured to draw en analogy between the crime of burglary and forgery. But it ap peared to him there was no similarity what ever, no more than there was between the boy who stole a watch from a window, and the mid night robber, who plundered a family of the accu mulated industry of years. They were called, by one of those technical absurdities of the law, the seine crime. It might be said Unit the disclosing of the removal of the punishment of death would be attended with evil consequences, but he thought It was well the truth should be known ; truth was the only principle upon which an enlightened legis. lature should proceed, and the people should not be frightened by the bugbear of capital punishment. He diffeted widely from those who thought that transportation was not a sufficient punishment for private forgery. The persons who committed that offence were not generally in the lower classes of life; they bad their family and connexions about them, and banishment for life from their country was a most grievous punishment. This was not peculiarly a lawyer's question. They had already heard the speech of one of the first authorities in the House upon it (Mr. Buxton), a Gentleman who had devoted to it his time, his experience, and talents, and he was happy to have an opportunity of ex pressing his gratitude for the noble effort he had made. Never did he hear more of wisdom, more of benevolence, more of practical good—(itae, hear) —never did he witness the spirit of Chris tianity so powerfully displayed in • public assem bly—never did he see religion applied to nobler purposes, not introduced for the purpose of !pro ducing discord amongst men, or becoming the ready instrument of slander; nut for the purpose of puffing off its own pharisaical purity, but in the words of the Scripture, with the intention of doing justice, loving mercy, and walking humbly with the common Father of all mankind.—( Load and continued eheeriag.) Mr. DENT opposed the Bill. Mr. Wilmot. thought that the measure would have been objectionable if it had not given a dis cretion as to the term of imprisonment. As to the state of the law at present, it seemed to be allowed on all sides that the punishment of transportation was in fact no punishment at all; it was practically inoperative ; and although be was not prepared to say that the present measure was free f-oni difficul . tics, yet he was content to take it, as it was one which did tiot oppose the common law of the land. He hoped by the operation of the law far a dimi nution of crime frocs a two-fold source—namely, by the certainty of punishment, and the ameliora tion of the character of the offender. Mr. MARRTATT considered that it would be to the last degree injurious to place the notes of the Bank of England in • different situation from all other negotiable securities, and he considered that the Batik paper was that which of all others was least entitled to be so protected. He considered the prosperity of our commerce as depending on our credit, and as the exception in the Bill was also a complete inversion of all the principles ref jus tice, he should oppose its being read a third ti ine. A Member, whose name we could not learn, op posed the Bill, as he did not see the necessity of the measure, as the small notes in which almost all the forgeries took place, were now about to be taken nut of circulation. Mr. J. SMITH thought that the severity of the punishment had been the cause of the increase of crime, by preventing the punishment taking place, but he did not know why the Bank of Englund should be better protected than any other ceanmer. cial body, though he believed that the punish ment of death was no preventative of forgery. He would almost go the length of saying that if it were a protection to the Book of England, they deserved it less than any other body. Their notes were of worse execution • , ti .1 .7 ~' than most country banks, and were in eoneapiesee a , will more easily forged, though be hoped *Doi to see crime Sn improvement in that re t. It was allowed thee that forjrries on country Tanks - 04k place with P much less frequency than on the Bank of England, and the reason certainly was the superior execution of their votes. Trusting that his Hon. and Learned Friend would make one or two verbal alterations which he would have the. honour to suggest, the measure should receive his most cordial support. ' Mr. PEIRSE spoke in so low a tone of voice that he was very imperfectly heard in the gallery. Ile defended the conduct of the Bank of England from the calumnies which had been circulated against them, both in that House and in other pierces. He thought the Bill ought to distinguish between the seller of the forged notes and the wretched pur. chaser or utterer, and lie would take the liberty in tle Committee to proposes clause to that effect. The small notes bring about to be withdrawn from the circulation, would, he hoped, diminish the crime of forgery ; but whether other crimes might not arise out of the alteration, was more than he: could say. Coining and robbery might, lie thought,. be expected to increase. - Mr. MILLS Blade some observations ow the Bill which were inaudible in the gallery. He did not think himself competent to steak on the general principle of the Bill, but he considered the present as a very inauspicious moment for bringing it in.— The parties who were concerued iii forgeries would not be idle, but exert themselves to disseminate the greatest number possible before any of the enactments could be put in force. Mr. LOCKHART opposed the .Bill. By the ex ceptions introduced, bills of exchange and bunkers, cheques were the only negotiable securities lett to the operation of the Bill, so that the bankers of the metropolis would be the sufferers. It was ■ mis take of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman to sop pose, that because in their Petition presented that night they had not in le►tism prayed fur the conti nuance of the punishment of death, their opposi tion went only to the exceptions, and not to the principle of his measure ; but es they wished to be on the same footing as the Bank of England, it was evident they were opposed to his principle. Mr. Baxitro agreed with the Hon. Member (Mr. Smith) that the expense and trouble of pro secutions deterred many persons from instituting them. But from whatever cause it might he, we had more forgeries than all the rest of the civilised world put together. if that were so, and he be lieved it wus the case, there must be something in the state of the law to occasion it. In Holland, where every thing relating to commerce was studied with► peculiar care, forgery was not punished oitheletith. In Hambargh forgery was not punished with death. By the French criminal code forgery was not pu nished with death, and he believed he could safely maert that the amount of that species of crime was there comparatively insiguiticant ; therefore, there waa but little reason to look for that inundation of forgery which some Hon. Gentlemen seemed to expect. What was the state of punishment at present ? Transportation, which am scarcely any punishment at all, or death, 'thirds to, persous in very desperate circumstances was not likely to deter from the crime. Desperate persons were, he believed, often not averse from risking their lives fo► a chalice of bettering their fortunes. If the minds of those men could be dived into, it would, lie thought, be formd that they, looked upon tan years confinement to hard labour as a thing not to be endured, whilst the risk of their lives would sot be regarded. He was perfectly convinced, therefore, that the punishment would be a more effective punishment, mad whatever exceptions there night be in the Bill, lie should mill vote for it, because, as far as it went, it was a certain good. Mr. DART DAVIS opposed the BIN. Mr. T. WILSON said, the Petition which had been presented from the Bankers of London, hum bly submitted that if the Bank were willing to , omit the clause' in► their favour,. the Petitioneto would not object to the measure ; but they felt that they were entitled to the same protection for bins, of exchange and checks as for any other negotiable security. With respect to the measure itself, he would have recommended to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman to have waited to , see what al.; feet the cessation of the I f. and 2!. notes would have on the crime of forgery. One reason which the Hon. and Learned Gentlemau gave for eseepting Bank notes was, because they were a species of Govern ment security ; but, he wookl ask him, were not exchequer bills a Government security also ? The leniency of punishment in Holland had been adverted to. There the criminal was em ployed in chopping logs of wood, and if ha failed in doing the work which was peeseribed, he was placed in a pool of water, fed by a running stream, and obliged, by pumping incessantly, to prevent the water rising so far as to suffocate him. That, he thought, the Hon. Gentleman would hardly wish to see introduced in this country. Mr. Haasoao said, the exceptions, it was well known, were introduced as a measure of cape. dieeicy, to insure the passing of the Bill. Heikki:mid give hie cordial support to the Bill, always protest ing against the exceptions which had been intro. duerd. Mr. MARTIN (of Galway) thought the House was imperatively called on to adopt this Bill, by the 'loather of Petitions in its favour from those classes out of which the Juries in criminal cases were chiefly formed. Another strong argument in its favour was, that the dissolute wretches who coin milted forgery, if called upon to say whether they would prefer the continuation of the law in its pre sent state, with all the chances of escape that 110 W existed, or the alteration of the penalty from death so , iinprisonment and hard labour, with a certaitaay of its being inflicted in case of conviction, would prefer the enuctmeut of death accompanied with the numerous existing chances of escape. Those who argued against the Bill on the ground of the inconsistency of the exception., acted un fairly ; why did they not propose to expunge them ? hear.)—He was sure the Hon. Mover would rather that the Bill should pass without them.—(Hear, Rea;.)—Pe rsons who prosecuted to conviction for forgery at present, were pointed out as objects of horror. He would cite above a hun dred instances in which such prosecutors had re pented ever afterwards. A strong proof that the mitigation of the puoishment could not have the effect of Coeteicsing the crease, was observable with reelect to the forgery of wills. In Ireland to forge was Nat a capitol irloaAand yet it liaa a very rarely heard of ni that country. lie i►e should vote ft): the third reading of this The House then tlividud Ayes lll Noes ..". • • Majority for the thivrt • 031.0112:remsdmisriort - ore found Sir Wlisiprails. TOSH prowling; some verbal amendments, wiiacT were agreed to.. Mr. Caters then rose and moved, that the words 4. or any promissory note,. bill of exeliroge, or draft payable to order. drawn by, OpOo, or lii ►avppr 9r . any banker or hankers," be inserted in the clause of exceptions. Mr. BARING said, the amendment proposed .by the Hon. Gentleman, would effectually cover es/2y forgery in which private banker' , were at all luta.. • e►ted ; and if the House were dittpused to seree•to it, the better way would be to throw out the Bill altogether. Dr. Lusutircrott said, that the punishment a death had beet, the cause of private banken; tie moat instances refeiritr, to prosecute, whatever might be the amount of the forgery. ILe.kut, of a case in which the severity of the law had so ope rated, where the amount of the forgery on a p►i.. vate banker •wait 10.000/. lie held in his hand a letter from a private banker, in which, spyaking of the effect of the law inflicting capital guinshmeid„.. he used there word+, " We are put out of the pale of the I for we eritizot protect our property." Mr. CRIPINISsaid a few word►, which were inaudi ble is the gallery. Mr. Maavrn supported the amendment. The House then divided— Ayes Plow Majoiiiy in favour of the exception On our re-admission we uoder►tood that the Marquis of LONDONDLIRY hod expresaa his de termination to divide the Motive vii Ute question " that this Bill do now pays," and we found Mr. BROUGHAM' saying, that since the Noble Lord had determined upon making that stage of the Bill one of discussion and division, tut would not give • silent vote. Agreeing, as he did most heartily. with his Hon. and Learned Friend in She% principle oil which be first brought its the Bill. slid regretting that he had felt hintielf Com pelled to admit the alterations which bad beers introduced. agreeing also in some of the ex ceptions which had beet' made, he should .yet., feel happy that the Bill so altered should receive the sanction of that House; and, if it *ook! rags there, lie hoped it would reeeire elsewhere that attention to which, after the deliberate and careful discus-ion it had undergone, it was fully entitled. The gallery was then cleared fin a divieiost. Atter we had withdrawn we understood a warns debate ensued, during which— Lord A. HAMILTON (Ai we were ofterwardain formed) moved the adjournment of the House, but subsequently withdrew his motion ; and Lord J. Itussw. moved the adjournineht'of it* debate, which was also withdrawn; and, tiaatiy— The House divided on the question of dui peN ing of the Bill— Ayes' • • . 11$ Nees Majgrity against the passing of the Bill 41 On our return to the gallery the SPRAIN'S ssW4 putting the question for his leaving the Chair, that the House might resolve itself into& Committee no the Dwelling House Robbery Bill. Mr. CIIETWYND was decidedly opposed to the' Bill, as tending, by lessening the punishment, to increase the commis.ion of the crime. He tbeve fore moved as ap amendment—" that the House &a resolve itself into a Committee on thir said Bill this day six months." • Mr. Conwranae supported the Bill at con siderable length, arguing that the doctrine that the uncertainty of the infliction of punishment, occasioned by the extreme severity of the law, in creased crime, in no-c,:se so strongly aiiplied as its that which this Bill proposed to remedy. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected te-the Bill. He said, if it passed, many crimes as aggravated as burglary would ro-eive a slighter punishment. The amendment was then put and negv,itived, and the !lousy resolved itself into a Committee. After a few verbal amendments the House re sumed, and the Report was ordered to be received ou Wednesday next. Sir J. MACK 1411444111 1. !towed .the orifier or the Dv Air dbe Rouse going iote le Committee on the Noingable Rivers Robbery Bill. llt wee moved that instructions be given to th e Committee to extend its provisions In canals. Sir J. MACKINTOSH observed, that stealing on canals was not a capital offence. After an observation from Mr. Wtruw, the Home went into a I_7oinatiitee.—The Report was ordered to be received on Wednesday next. WAYS AND NIE4NS. Mr. LUSIUMOTOM moved that the Report on the Ways and Means he brought up. M►. HUME objected, at that hour of the night. that the Report should be brought up. It was a regular understanding that the Report should nos be brought up after eleven o'clock. Mr. LUsHINErrom. consented to postpone it. On the question 4" that the Irish Coroners Bill be committed," Mr. R. Marna mowed that it t postponed to the next Session. Tile other Orders of the Ony we►e then of, and the House adjourned at Out o'Ct.tic tins morning. TN'S SEA SERPENT.—This majestic inhabitant of the deep has, it is said, again made its appear-. once off Cape Ann. C.ptain GROWs, of the brig Minerva, of Beth, formerly an unbeliever, is the person who is reported to have seen it. and to have had all his doubts.reiuoved on the subject.—(New York Paper.) Wednesday forenoon five companies of the 7th Fusiliers, stationed in Edinburgh Cued:, under the command of Colonel Sir E. Butzenvir. were inspected and reviewed in Burutsfield Links, by his Excellency Sir Tawas, BILAIDWORD, the Com mander-in-Chief. The troops went through se veral muniauwees and movements with the sitninA precition, and his Excellency was pleased to es press his unqualified approbation of their soldier like appearance and correct and steady cradoct• f ..! 4 . i ... I 1 some Into /aim Mould be &fleeted for the e the coaa•Hois'of- the poor; sod be, thereon Mr. Own.) a plait ought to be folly innotigsted oath pais of a at might appear hemline' at . selected, an d m a d e a n basis of a measure for I object. Mr.ll-...SNUMlX4sisfie atme-ebservatione in anent at NeWleasrk, obleh he had visited. of persona ikandanisa Nominated to two thou, ' r were the mist, sal, amnion religious, em *nom topTIOSIMIIatIow be bad errr seer. , attending Mg** of thoosaods in 40111414 i Comes Mod Diepoolakment of rrime, the son half the aningebabeen laid out in the fon eetehlishomon'iti'lliit at New Leiter!, sod i • outset, Strongman 'domino, to ameliorate soil retingia(thrageorab of the poor, thesimmi would Mee bees rendered so oefrequent as • . " s o destroy the necessity fur such expenses In rearming it. After a few words treat fer. W. SMITH in Owes's plan, the Petition was ordered to be F .„{ • Mr. BLACK BURN E presented a Petition I ter against the POW' Law. Amendment Bill; talonfrom Me same plaee spinal the Spoiled These Pelitions were ordered to be printed. Mr. IllU/SE asked, whether it was the in si Right Huutirable Gentleman to press the I , e Bill this Seism'? Mr. LUSH INGTON said, that the Bill it omens the dropped alders of last week, and i tened to revive it. Mr. BERNAL presented a Petition from B it's Mattison, investor of the Life Preserver, pi 0: 4 i I . orPoiaIIOPIIII of a Committee to inquire Will . , 1 4 Wily of his invention to the Preventive Smelt 1 1 , ; conekived its adoption would teed to the ; I many lives. i 'l as i Mr. WAR RE observed, that many lives we Preventive Service by the upsetting and , 1 boat, un the roast ; and thought the inirod ; s invention might be attended with coosiderahl • Mr. 1-US44INGTODI said, he was not pr that the adoption of the life preserver might (-1 particularly on the coast of Ireland. ; . Mr. W. SMITH said, the observation of Hemet, appcarrd lo him to afford a strong I ; I.f appointment of a Committee. fi - f Sir I. COFFIN said, it was r ather su i m V I life preservers were good for any thing, that he found in use among the Deal boatmen, most exposed to danger in going out to the vessels on the Goodwin Sands of any men on ' I. whu we-re probably as fond of their lives as 'i I did not rare what became of the life pre; j 1 I il . were only kept out of the men of war; for t, : i 1 1-, dienpisted on a lee-alsore, every man would t, preterver, and the ship would be presently I without the necessary exertions being used t: . X s'i ' bull and the stores.—Tbe Petition was I' - I' . printed. On the mafiosi of Colonel DAVIES, retail ' 1 of the mount and value of all &figures mad ont-purls of Great Britain and Ireland, for a 1 : of years; and also of the amount of goods ' I o wners steer such .Sores hail been made. I .1 On the motion of Mr. HUJIE, a return r the names of all persons employed in the c Y lie in Scotland, and of the amount of I salaries, from the year 1805 to 1820. / r : Lonr STANLEY presented • Petition fn ', wardens, Overseen, and Inhabitants of Gr Lancashire, against the Poor Laws Almeida - • p Petition from Manchester, praying for 0 1 . much, of the 55th George 1 1 1. as relate. to 1 1' , BANKRUPT LAWS. we probates of wills.—Ordered to be printed 11 1 On the.motion of Mr, J. SMITH, the B. I I Amendment Bill was read the thiikiime antianti • • lONIAN ISLANDS. • 1 1 ' Mr...HUME wished to ask the Noble Mai explicit mower' to a queetioa which he put • i . time ago. The queettins be alluded to was II . . a native of the Weise Islarde, conies to 111 liable .to be ermined and ant back •Irai• I •101111 of ihe Alien Act; Of whether he wet same protection as a British .object ?" The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said peewee prepared to give a full mower to II posed by the Hon. Member, as no case hat to call- for its application. He had no dithe in toying that he did nut regard the native • 'clouds in the light of British subject., hot • of a distinct and separate Stale, of which the i ) '''' this country way merely the protecting pow. Mr. HUM K said a clear understanding oni bowed it Isis question was of rosisiderahle ; there were at dos moment several aatives of their way to this country, in order to make of c ee lo r i t el in ja aili sti t e l n ers and whi reri di ress ilhey 7boesgtsthideerd as • y e woul t 1 I we sot halve to the operation of the Alien Ma T d h s e ni l t ll m a i rq i u b i e s Y o k f mew LON be DO We ND he E ed ßß l: l be4 st ilm re i 1 state of the law might be, there was not the of Ise provisions being pot in force agains en seek a mission as the Honourable Menthe --(Hem, hear.) Sir R. WILSON widen to ask it the Ho . s Secretary of State bad ascertained w h e the r . 1 ' Ind been boasted by the Govenstoest of thi Governors of Demerara sod the ether Di t rant in Oaf possessing, to abotiab lir 1 : . lictiosi:of torture in criminal process, as; I lir"' ..BU RN . saisd be took shame to bunt lioallasa si Nohow Sat question of lb but he hoped so be obis to give him the nal spired to-toonenr. ' • - - 'CRENINAL LAW. Sir JAititd 41.46C11110170111 said, the • . Move Use third fending of the Bill , , , •, shapuoishasent , of forgery. he felt i std to-the . Mahe Mirprecise condi NNN the Bill stood et, meet: Various a I I been made, exception.' take'. and introduced, and be 'must express his to resist any farther. By voting foi reading of that Bin, the House ..h proceeding almost erisiveletit to a re • , 1 . it was seceaaary to abate the punch .for the mine of forgery. This, he WOW founded on that conviction that thst ! •lisintishoseat &roared the imp crime. These two conclusions mig flat Ille firsoent inntl of the Bill, i .. Ittestila that bad been paid to it ; ' • 1 'lf i Nisi Illopmares, it was of course ha waged * soy stage: es• far as it I 1 wain dear misbegotten's that the pi' •• Memoir. had been approved. This •ik I' ':. iiot L rest o ft mere theory, It was . sane I• l'•li • s Legistasusa. said. corned the teepee ' 1 • • . .. i ' ••• ' . experience. bits° Metences the e been tried.' Io the case of defraudie 4. once potsishatife' by death, the capita l • ' ' ) Was Vrtiotkekt and this for the avow • I procurinecritivictions. In the instals( grounds, which had been already auniar experiment had been nude w These .examples were too dessimilai !admit there was any peculiarity is ) which the priniiPles ihould.be aPpl had been the progress UI the priori . ... crimival lew f Mill 14 woo a subject of that more capitol .possisliments hod i ..., n the first year of hi. present Majtid sauce the time of Edward VI. TI i . .. • honoura b le di a e; net i en ; and would ',ha ,ors but t e the same pro on the reign of the present Moosich ht the ryes of collio it mould it • Bill it:°lo, posterity, events than even which occupied • mach - death, mo re eittoded space.—(Cries qf Hear. 10110— t abe t .. . co rie r ai s t oitsbitaiweichAitesohraeatii LouirXlV. had at one period of his reign carried i his- tyranny to such a pitch of refinement, that t be made it punishable by death to escape from his velV ou - oferime. _ (4 p r ison ; but this punishment he found it necessary ° l inen of the care c