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ewe; he called them infautout Mars inasmuch as they were begun and cartird•on without necessity., The landowners had Allays been found the ready , supporters of the adoissereei of Goverainentduri ng the wee; and with lhe..like. suboeselersey and .blind confidence, they supported , the properition of the Right hloonurable hilialtabee for Oxford, voider the pressure of which they - were now groaning. He was perfectlY satisfied, that. the- only May to 'relieve the agricultural as. as the other classes oldie country, wan to retiree• the amount of the tinessiun as low as pomible, end to effect that the utmost possible economy end retrenchment in every branch of the public expenditure should be rigidly enfirced. He believed he wet the only mast in the House who in 1819, although concurring in the principle of the measure then adopted, yet 'foresaw the difficulties it would engender, and the lerest inns, of evil that meet cone. Ile *ow that it must be productive of oppressive injustice ba every side, by its operation upon contracts end engagements entered into in a depreciated state Of ' the currency ; but he also saw the necessity of the . `preteeeding, and the ultimete -benefit, of which those sufferings were the necessary price. He coo chided by giving his hearty support, to the motion. The Ctlancam.na , of that Excuiq&taa, in rising to oppose the, motion , of the Hoti. Member for Laser, 'doer the in:leveret coarse of argument elsithiusddseen - pursued, wished to rec.' the stunt ? Ant of the House to the question immediately before 11.—f Hear, hear.)---The Hight Hoo. Gen demon then proceeded to:onforce his own. view of the ,oubjec4,.ban• thrimighout the greater part of his speech he - eras -- wholly inaudible in the gallery. Iler.cotitentled, sod he wag sure the Honourable Member opposite could not deny it, that the !mi shit-sr of the tax in 1819 had fully answered the - expectation of the House. • The Hon. Gentleman who spoke Ina, would hove them at once'reject the measure which the House had' adapted in 1819, of a new sinking fund ; but he (the Chancellor of the Eaehequer) contended, that the - advice of the .14on. Gentleman, would, if adopted, oblige Orin to the—he would not call it infainous,•because any env towards the preservation of good faith and the fitlfilmetit of our engagements, would, after all, have the merit of honesty—but it would force them to the injurious expedient of borrowing money wherewith. to ply the interest of the debt. The iinuournitic. Member for Essex contended, that the. isereuse of the duty had caused a more than preportintrete diminution in the coniumptia; but it would appear to the House that he had by ' no mums token itn accurate view of the returns before the 'loose. In the first place it would appear from these returns, that the repel! of the war duties iii •1816, did not relieve the agiiculture or the coon try,• by producing any increase of the consumption in the succeeding years. 'lite 'average quiaittity of rusk :charged to the duty in the three years, from the sth July, 1816, when the war-duty was repealed, to the sth July, 1819; when the ad ditional duty was reimposed, was something Um than 22,000,000 bileitein, nearly 111,080,090 bushels sinuosity, while the average quatititj chugged for - the three years preceding the re paid of wee 26,390,000 bushels. Ije eavuot so absurd as to argue that the decrease oil the duty had prodoeed the diminution of the cossaraption at that period, but what he meant to diem woe, ihs• it had not waded its increase the conshmption ; wither had Ilse effect of reimposiog the deny in 1819 caused any diiisiintion of ibe . quantity charged to the duty, on the eon. Iraq it bad increased since that period, for the actual guan. lily timed during the year, which succeeded the ley. toe oh• of the additional duly, ',hewed au increase of 1,200,900 brabels upon hurt of the year - preceding. Ilfhat he contended for was; • that is an article of such a very general runansuptiun say thieisaiatiens, of the price could not materially vary ' the WO% out 11.1 the COO.lnarliOn• The same results, or nearly, herald, would be gathered front amparionu -of the returns of milt, spirits, und beer, fur the maw periods. This skewed that the burden - of the tax fell Out upon the farmer exelualvely, nor eves prioripally, bet npot the consulate, He appealed to the Hew, whether the operatiuu of any tax cuald be more generally diffused • than that now under consideration. With reapers to 'the ' complaint made by an Honoarable Member teem '.9cottaitil, or sh, rgostie,tioo of the malt duties, be must beg lesvelo remind - the Hon Member that it bad sot beer dune without the Niko!), ledge of the Oen tlemen (runs that ?art of the country. lu considering the desire expressed by the him. Member fur a partial retortion of the tot in that part of the cuutsfri; it should nut be for -gegen -thatllitee misted between it and the southern divi sive of. the inland a free trade in corn; and, 'if the duty in malting were lower there than in England, English barley eight be imported into bouthiail, to be malted three,. and Afterwards re imported lute Engiand, by wheels the duty' would be evaded. It was impossible, there fore, to assent to auy partial reduction of the tax it that • part of-the kingdom. With respect to the observaliornof she same How Member on the falling off of the revenue on distillation in Scotland, he was slut •ity mute than the Honourable Member in possession of thi details; but all the infermstion he possessed ou the subject led him in atirietudeohat the honourable Member coy incorrect is suppostisg the slimiussiion to be so • 'itemise as he hod stated. There bad undoubtedly beets some dimiuntion in she quantity of spirit', ebarged with the duty on distillation in Airolloadi Mal, believer, was, not wising to the inmate of . illicit distillation; but, in order to evade the duty on malt, obey tried the effect of distilling from the raw grain, wb;tb yielded a smaller quantity of spirit than grain whiols lied bet 111• matted. The Honorable Measlier for Essex had M. iroduried a variety of topics, which were Whir lilted fur the discussion of Me Committee up stairs, into whirh he there fore did not intend to follow him. The hight Honourable' Aecnitenimn added a few noire observations, whit?' the low. tone is which they acre giseii, sod the noise iu the Hour, presentee as freer collecting. M r.IIIACK Etat It said, when the returns from Scotland to which he hail toluded were on the table, the Hight Hon. a:contemn would find that he (Mr. Mackenzie) had reason to know srh , ii he had punted to be correct. -- • Thu CH A NC U. 11.1 tit of the EQUER Losth% HAMILTON said, its the niter - hopelessness ninth Ins snel.hts countrymen enlist feel of making may impreAlost on the •Ittight Hun. Genth men in any ease where a tat was conceit!' d, he must gloat, avail himself of the slight chance of hototht to his resume, which the motion of his .Huis. friend afforded,' by giving it his support. The Right Hon. Gentleman said, that the taking off the war duly in 1846, vas out followed by so that ase of consumption. But, %hawser effect the tethering of the duty in ordinary cases might fusee upth the consumption of au article by tending lu lessen the price, he submitted that it could not *literate spots tbu crop; and any Gentleman who remembers what the crap in the year 1817 was, must know that it was not hale ctuy• If, therefore, the repeal of the duty could have au y effNt at all upon the consumption, 1819 ass the first year to sloth it conletoperate after it was taken .11. Ilut with that promptitud e and eagerness for a new tax, whit!, was chsrseteristic of Chancellors of the Exchequer, lie u"e the trimsl of the duties did nut begin to ope rate iu four or Gra mouths, he lost no time in 'mpg's. tug then, all again, as soon as ever the time Moe ohet"the Olen of the repeal spa likely to be felt. Hut if this tax, as the Right Hen. Gentleman asserted, really aid nut affect Inc agrirwiture of the en 1111 l ry, he (teal' A. Hnmilttm) should like it, know how it bappourd, that, atipported al the ditty. It might p. ably !mimeo that grain imported into Scotland, and malted there. had been re.impurted late England, but the amount could not be considerable, and he thought could by no means justify so disproportannie an Increase of the duly. He cotiteiseled also that the duty so raked afforded a bounty to illicit dittilletion which it was almost impoesible to resist. Its operation there was 0. 0 rendered more oppressive by the elitference of the soil and she growth of the pain in the two countries. But sifter the ex. perience he lead bad of the obduracy of Ow Right Hoe. Gentleman last year on this subject, he had nut the smallest' hope of his bring induced to accede to the repeal nok the palls• sent ortasion. Lord G. CAVENDISH supported the motion as calcu lated to afraid relief to the agriculturist. Distress, it was true, premed more or less 'spun every part of the coarimu. •ekty. The rommercialased nianufacturing classes were not withost their share of difficulty, beet still they were, to tote a CUM I.9II expreatiou, able to keep their loads above water; was that, however, the state of agriculture? If they looked twenty years back mot saw that mires were then the same as at present, but attended also to the enormous increase of the burdens which had been imposed, he would put it to any alien to say whether if war possible these bordeus should _gisalinue to be endured. It was imposeiltk, unless some relief were afforded, fur tie farmer to Ku on ; mid be was convinced ' , that relief to the hitekd intermits and 60. practical farmer, could in no better way be effect e d theta by the adoption of the present motion. Mr. E. WO DEHOUSE was convinced that against the priocipleof this lax there could be but one opinion. lie be. hewed it to have a must pernicious influenee on the moral character of the country: that it operated in leariewsly to the aericulturiet was abundantly proved. Within hie own kaowledge a malister who was •in tits habit of preparing 700 quarters, now wetted only 100; and there was not a malts:re in Norwich and Yarmouth whose operations had not b , ce,ectlml ti seuese one.thirdriad others still mare. It Mehl feud lo destroy the cultivations of Barley altogether. The Hun. Gent. proctedml to vindicate the farmers and the Isioled proprietors from the observa tions of the Hon. Member for Coventry. That Hou. Member haul charged Hum witbpoliticalsubserviency, and blind ranter. I vie* to the views of Government. political courtesy, he ileac ht, might have dictated mote m el terms; the only • way An which be slitimild reply to them was that in ahsch they deserved to be met, of the most unqualified contempt. .?bs How. Member and his friends might ; arrogate tri them- Delve a, if they pleased, the monopoly oldie political iutieerify MlCaltecoantry ; as far ache was himself coneerueil, he would lot attempt to dispute it with theta. To revert to the Meet ander consideration, the distresses of the Agriculture Loaf the counsey, if there was any clispomeicos in his Majesty's Ministers to underrate those elislress..s, they would delude thheniielows sod ilbr'tonatry. If no bore of relief were bell Oat, it would soon be foetid that we were fast besieging to •Illss period r hea fir Magairstes avemillke•nrileduti to issue seders of tuainteitance ou those whose autistearteWafs already msahanated. Ifieceocluded by supporting the Melba's. Mr. ELLICE explained. • Mr. H. 811.3MNER, in reply ha the observations of the Chancellor of the Exchequer , on the non-Jnereese of the consumptive by the taking off of the war ditty, remarked, that the Right lion. Gentlemau haul nut waived the rise iu the price of the raw material. The Hun. Member fur Co. ventry had told them, that the way to counteract the ill effects of a fell in price', was to reduce the rate of charges, bet if he had been on the Committee up stain, he would have 'gonad that ths tenor of the evidence before it was, that there was no possiledity of reducing the charges. The same Hon. Member had attributed the perseverance of Ministers in the Isle war to she slipped given theta by the landed interest; but lie would msistain, that since man had become a rartectows anista/—(General laughter)—there never was a afore popular war than that ; it was, in the fullest smote, the war of the people of this conutry. He would vole he every reduction of taxes—( Loud erfes of Hear, hear) — until they (the agriculturists) would have redress, for re dress they most base. But on the present occasion be felt himself obliged to oppose the motion. Lord FOLKESTONE. said, that he was sorry the pug. serious nature of the Him. Member bad not endued bile with sufficient pertinacity to oppose the systu m of expendi ture, even on this °cession, wherein he might have hceu supposed to have the must powerful inducements. As to the complaint of the Hon. Member fur Norfolk (Mr. WoJee house) sir bring charged with subserviency to Ministers, all he Mudd say was, that the Hon. Member had not during the course of that war, which be considered so necessary, I pso. of the peace which had succeeded, ever withdrawn his• support form Ministers upon any question tending to lb*: rcilectionypf the expenses.-( Hear, loser, from the Anita.' serial side.?- AII be meant to infer Kane that co cuinslimmt. rase that Minister' hail good renews to complain of the con. duet of the Hon. Member its supporting them during so long a period, and withdrawing his support when the obvious' cuesiterieuces of Meow measures which he bad so strongly. opposed, called the most loudly upon him fur siaistaate. , Still the vote of the Him. Member would be very streptil nhle. Ile (Lord Folkestone) would he glad of the repeal of; the tax in Tuition, not because it was calculated go glue particular relief to wieldier', best became. it would elle. so much general relief to the whole commuoity, whlellavras Inure dcsirkilic. It was a fallacy to suppose that this tax wan borne peculiarly by the agricelturima ; , .it was equelly oppressive their customers. His Lor dship wetel on to say, tlist if was impossible for the country ict proceedmuch Nether in paying the interest of an mew-nines debt, to which is calamities were almost all to bmtracell. it would Ise asked , se would you break faith with the public creil 1111 l • 1:" Ile was as little inclined as any Mall ets break faith when it could Imarstly be lc , pt. But there were eircunistances in whirls it would nut wily he impussi ,fats ,to preserve good faith, but wherein it woolut ee -1 Wally he an act of good faith to tweak good faith with the putilie creditor Nation, were subjected to moral as well as physical impossibilities. It war a mural impose"- hilltj for a uation ill persevere its seledesonetimi. 'three wpm a crisis in which it liecatfle a nation to do a more sacred duty, by segiertiag a duty len warred. The interests of the *bolo' people moat he superior tic those of a past. It was grow. , mg snore and more evident every day that it was impossible: to go on keeping faith with the public creditor, with per. . f eet secur ity t o o& peace stud freedom of the nation. lie pub u case : Suppose the invasion mentioned by the mellset Geo anal last eight, as being talked elf among the Sovereigns of l.so ur a, to be inownent, and that in exerting the force:sof the country it was found to be impossible to pay the public creditor, mid make the necessary in of and provision for the tome—would it tint in that case he a greet dereliction of public dusty nut to break faith with the public creditor Suppose another case—simpoee the taxes collected to pay Ike itsterest to Ilse public creditor were funnel to he so oppressive as to keep the country in • stale of grueral di:s uasion,' discontent, amounting to dangerous disaffection, amt in consequence it were discovered to he needful to keep the Habeas Corpus Act perpetually suspended—world it not be a breach of public duty, and sweet of public dishonesty, nut to bleak faith with the public creditor I Let it out be ',opposed from this that he and hie Don. Friends sought immediately to reduce the elitists of the public creditor. Let Sao use lie afraid of mmirig• eithe Mesa for the repeat of this tax, from the fear that they would be led thereby to wrong public faith, which was by theta held to be inviolable; un the coulter', there was ma 'measure calculated to pre. )%ighl lionoerahle eminense yak os. most 'ooessionC e •Ly vest the isseach of faint but tile 'Watling of husi and 16 the nodes' intern in that House, sot mei of them was earercement o? re o n o nis ie the.eitablishateuts. Round to get up is his place an d bear him out by Bowleg Mr. HUSK ISSON rose. amidst load cries of. ll Qmselifia!" . that fa his particelar county the taking of of the duty He trusted, that if 'there were we other reason for could sot have any henellcial effect upon the aricoUure.— bearing hies than the' toYeksiiiti of relieving the ha ' Adverting particularly to the . Members front the part of the imor of Parliament from some suggestions recently country with 'whirch he was connected, he believed it woad& thrown oat, as' td the necessity of b r e a kin g f a ith be atknotledged that they were by no -useins, generally', with the public creditor, that the Ifunse wcoald hetritirn pa 'speaking, backward in supporting his Majesty's Misistent neat*. He vindicated the honour of the House frtint any but be thought none among then would be rotted tonsamel • poggnipsnios in that sehemeN which would go to destroy the forward and sag that this tax was not a grievous oppress ne oat' estillienies which the conatryhul in the measures of Govern 'the agriculture of that parlor the country to which he belowg.' twasiel, fur fulilling•ell the regigenscuts which the nation 'W. lii the last year the amount of the duty os malt had greatly Mad entered into with li,' bl.l. anli3ects. He defended the •tweeded the value of th e b ar l e y i n th at part o f the biog.! eaudeem of those who had eapported the meatier', of Go m. The duty iu Srotlaud op to the 4th July, 18196 was vorasseat during the wsr. sad deprecated the slight which 'le. Rh. per bushel, and the additional ditty then laid on was had been thrown on the Sinking Fund, for the support - la. 101 per bushel. lu Englaud, the duty up to that time 1 of which, and that with a view n o t t o t h e i nterest o f it was 2., 4.1. per bushel, and th e a ddi t i on th en i mpose d was i siork.jubbere, us h a d been intimated, h a t f or the advantage Is. ed.; so that th e additional duty imposed i u Scotland ! of public clretlit, three millions of new taxes Ind been voted. exceeded that which before existed, while that imposed at I only two years ago. There was tin way to secure the pre the name time in England ans.tunted only to half the previous ' - of good faith with the public creditor, and ',cur d, - It air' ' puseii ' ' • E n gli s h e - ' • sensation ing the return of prospers: to the mautry, so effectual as to allow the tie of the country to inmate, so as to mod the demands which were upon it. As to the lax in ques tion, he thought that if a reduction of taxes were really ad visable., that this ought not to he the first tax reduced. He denisdthat it fell more oppressively on the agricultural than on any other class. .Ar to the sequel's of the Hou. Menthes. fur Essex, lie compinincel that they did nut s.t out the pie-salon in a fair point of view. •I be Hon. Member had neglected among his averages the years 1800 and 1801, because, as he said, those years were year, of scarcity, and it would he unfair to quote the dirnivation against the tax; but be had made use of re turns for other years which were also years of scarcity (As in 18121, becanse the dimi nution of quantity was calculated to in crease the effect of his s.atement. He drilled •generally, add argot(' circtim atantially, that the tax had operated to reduce the consump tion of malt. He particularly iirstauced the returns of last year, 1111C11 the tiresome of this las most have been pr. culiarly felt, if in this respect it could he felt at ail; from which it appeared that there was actually an in creased consumption •of malt and beer. He next ap. plied himself to the emention of general distress, which had been alleged to exist among all the separate inte rests,. in consequence of the diminution of currency oc casioned by the attempt to return to cash payments, and She relative diminution of the prices of commodities. Divid ing the whole: ceminunity tutu three classes, he proposed to (gamine how the diminution of prices affected the interests or each The first class was that of labourers, who hurl no exchaugeable goods to offer in return fur that part of the produce which they required to consume, and trifght be supposed to suffer the most from the diminished value of their labour consequent on the diminution of prices: The second class he would separate consisted of those who lived upon the interest of accumulated capital, which, as it respected them, the proprietors, was dormant : The third class might be reckoned to consist of those who, uniting skill, ingenuity, awl industry, with the application of capi lplr gage entPielment to the first. As to the first class, he maintained that the 'coral e ff ect of diminished or low Aciecs . mutt be in tbcly 4rour. Fur though the falling of toininodities led to a rliadisuliott in the price of labour, the exchange of labour for commodities was more (stowable to the labourer when prices were low thus when they were high, and in any alter atiou in prices in commodities the admit tato was on the side fatale labourer when prices were falling. This subject had not escaped the penetrating sagacity of the lamented author of the Bullion Report, with whose opinions he had Slit happiness to accord. Thai great man hail remarked that the price of labour waterloo in,fulluwiug thediminstiou us other prices. He was prepared in short in prove, if necessary, by official returns, that the comforts of the class of labourers bad sot rinly'not been dirifinislo d, but bad actually increased, as was eitricot from the increased consumption of all those articles 'which migh( be deemed essential articles of human life. At the same time that he arl:nitied that in particular parts of the country there was considerable suffering from inni'of employment, he maintained that the modifier.' of the ' Mooring population generally had been begetited by the reduction of prices. As to the second Class, that of the capitalist, Ake public ansinitaoto, who bad lest their money to the honour and good faith of the coun try, preferring that to any private securities of which they might have availed themselves, let it nut Le held that they were merely idle and unprofitable consumer,. They did nothing personally, it was true, to increase the protium. lions of the country; but they had lent the savings of their industry to the Government for the protection of the country. It was nut because this class derived, as they must du, a cow siderable advantage from the diminution of prices, that they worettibircalled on to yield up a part of that advantage. They had suffered when the case was otherwise, when, by the rising of prices, their iuterest became of so much less of essential value. Yet nut one of those Honourable Members who, like the Noble Lord, called fur a redaction of their in terest now pleaded then for the necessity of iocreas• big it. This class, lie concluded, must have been much benefited by the alteration of prices, which was at pre sent working. lie applied himself lu the third class, who, by their joint skill, industry, and eapital, kept the first class in employment. Here be must own the pressure of declining prices upon good., warehouses, ships, and con. tracts, contingent spots such possessions must he severely felt. But their this was the class which had been most materially benefited by the fluctuation of prices during the war. An extraordinary' alteration In the value of the cur rency had given prices at that lime a teudency to rise. This • gave a general inducement to Imo mosey capital into fixed capital. Great sums were vested in the improvement of lands ; theaccumulation of goods, therbuikling of ships, warehouses, • end manufattorlea. An•laiiedinale stud undue spirit of spe yulatiou pervaded society. The return to a settled and male natural order of things must be attended with great ' distress to ibis class of persons; but it was not to be re• reeled as an unmixed evil. The distress might scontinoe until the nation should be cosipleiely disestiangled from ra unnatural system of commerce which hod grown by during the war. Oue of the ;teat evils of that advance in prices, the mural effect of which was must to be deplored, was, that it toduked farmets, who bad before done the work of their farms' by the help of in-door labourers, to•eugsige, from the deteriorated value of mosey, fur pay ment hi that article raibbr thou in' fowl and ludgiogorkigh were then of so much more 'aloe: A good effect whist, mold' follow the present 'deiced things was; that the farm-lotanameie would be restored to the house of-the farmer, there to benefit' by' the example of prudence, foresight, and saviagnses, front which that class of persous had been cut off ever since the waeprices bad made it mote eligible to pay the husband men ib money than iss:Aroa and lodging. As to the reduc tion of rent ishich•hasl been claimed in conerqueoce of the advance during former period., he curSsioly thought it not only wise brit just to diminish the casts in proportion to the increased value of money, or the diminution of prices, if those rents bad been formerly increased in cwitrequeopee of high prices. Ile was ready to admit, however, that great din lime must be felt Loth by the landlord and tenant, andn rousiderahle conflict would necessarily take place in cover sequence of the mutual difficulties iu which landlorda and teuauts were plunged by th a measure. The landlords maid: pot readily reduce the rents, because they had debts on mutt gage, lithium", dowries., sod rentscharges, to pay, the im moral mount of which had hem fixed dosing a higher rate of prices. The imam tit distress Iresairse he could nut 111(.4.1 the high rent and other charges in the fallen state of prices. Ile felt convioced, however, that the country bad gone through the most trying period of its difficulties, and that prosperity most be on the return. With this view he trusted the House would not be tempted to swerve from I the plan they had so perseveringly adopted, of restor ing the country to a wood state of currency, ,and establishing an order of things which could be more firmly confided its. Ile wish( I to prove what he asserted, lay referring Su the case of America, suffering like this coun. try, and from the operation of the very same causes, He then read an extract from a Report of the present Session of Congress, which ran to this effect :—That it was not the first instance its the history of notions, in which, in a state of profound peace, a country found itself, truth as to the acts of govereinient nod of individuals embarrassed wills difficulties. Agriculture and nianufacturts failed fur want • of a market not competiog with foreign modem; all . the national interest were pining, and a remedy must be found. tutliriduals were supplicating Government for at. doglike. and Calsweeilsent reeipeotated the 4,11 open istAi tdilenfe, the 'resources of both twiatesaltanieled. The ovation wilistativil lu another passage to be iu • more Impoverished • seetetbiol• 1817. He stated obese gitenitosHinerViritii the mast deep.felt feeliage of reret fur Ansavinit, c.mpl.erd ea the wis that the welfare of both countries *as united in the prosperity or fittest.' lie eoetinded, allEir preteethig ttgalhait any mischiewouo, digracefol, he bed alMost said iefeueisie, expedient fur rediaciug the public debt, by moving the prt vianis'eseMieve. Mr. WILBERFORCE woold not detain the Howse' moot Minutes. He would he the last man •to impose More dlfe rallies on the people than are necessary; but means . World be ° provided to the Govertunewo to coaduct • the public affairs. No man more fully concurred than be - did that faith should be kept with the public creditor. And let us also recollect that the greatest of all possessions in a free country is the good will and the hearts of the people.—[The cries of k Question!" now became general.)—He was motorised to bear tile impatience of Gen. tkincii when a great natiusial questioo was discussing. 'nos was not a question we should go `• pedibms vie is salmliams" He therefore hoped the question wohhl get a fiiir discussion, sad not that cursory and summary view Get:Demo attend disposed to take of it. Mr. 910f4CK rose amidst load cries of ti Queslioa r Aloe Right Hon. Gentleman bad ureetioorld the example of AlR rica, mid he hoped it was with the inteatiou of iluitatiog her pearlier. America in distrenscil, but she has taken means to remove them; and *lilt were the means? Not taxation—(Near, heor)—oo, but the strictest ecomuuly. She has reduced her expenditure; sue has reduced the Sala ries of all the public officers. The Hon. Gentleman went into a detail co the various taxes on her, and wive, but the conghlog and tries of " Question!" were so loud, that we could sot collect distinctly his argument. Mr. LITTLETON should he sorry to vote for tbc too. tioa of the Honourable Member f..r Essex without stating bus motives. He would support the public faith, sod he *lwo,' heard propositions arainst it with the deepest pain, and wheuever the Government brought forward a lax that would fall more evenly on the rich as well as the mule, be nee ready I. support it. Loud CASTLEREAGH observed, that he should drseroe the impatienee he saw growing if he attempted to argue the question. But some Gentleman argued the question a if his Right Hou. Friend wow, fur the first time, proposed anew tax; and, ootwithstioading the opinions of his Right Hun. Friend (Mr Wilberforce) ; which he knew were tinier of benevolessliir,• but rather contracted and Linwood ootious of humanity, lie would say' that the may way to relieve the burdens of the people was to 6x the public credit on a firm and stable basis. Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS would not trouble the House, sinless for the purpose of prodoeinc an explanation from the Right Hou. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Exchequer). Owing to the impatience that prevailed, we could not bear the question. The CHANCRLWR of the EXCHEQUER explained amidst cries of " Spoke." After a abort reply from Mr. WESTERN, the House For the Motion Against it 125 •••.11= Majority fur Mr. Wasters's Motion 24 Mr. WE.STERN then obtained leave to bring is a Bill to repeal the Milt Tax. The other Ordeal of the Day wire then disposed of, and the House adj•turned at HALF-PAST TIT° O'CLOCK to.murrow (this day). EAST INIAI4-110LISE. Yesterdey • General Quarterly Court of Pro- prtetore was held at the . East ludit Honse..• Leurlenhall-street. The Court assembled and the Chairman took t h e Chair at 12 o'clock. The proceedings of the lust General Court having. been read, . The CHAIRMAN informed the Conet. that the resolution of the Court of Directors, for granting* pension of 1,0001. and 600/. per 1111110 M) to the late Surat Warehouse-keeper cud hie Clerk, had been approved by the Board of Control. lie next moved the Court to confirm the resolution of the General Court of the 20th December last, approving the resolution of the Court of Directors of the tith veinber last, proposing the establishment of a New Office, with a salary of 3001.- per MUSLIM. at the Cominmy's Military Seminary at Addiscombe, for the instruction of the Cadets at t h at institution in military surveying, which .was unaiiimoriely firmed. On his moving fur a blunter confirmation for a grant of 1,5001. to Captain Daniel Ross, of the Bonthay marine, for his services iu making sur vey's of the China Seas— Mr l Hutto ruse, not for the purpose of opposing the grant, for he had made inquiry, and believed the service' of Captain Ross were highly deserving some murk of the Company'. approbation, and he believed that had his valuable charts been on beard the Aleesie, that vessel would not hove been last. He hoped that the experience of this Geutlentete•oleld not be boat to the Company, but that hr would 4ND considered as deserving the patronage of the Crawl of Directors. Mr. LOW N DES said. he hail lately had hiseest. teation called to the situation of the mates•of men, and expressed lea iutetition of moving the Criurt to take their stow into its torwiderataorr.• The pisAsuitAst suggested that there wass lion ut pre:neat *fore the Court. The liontior able Prointepir wag not regular at present in call iug to other Waiters. 'V he Court, on the motion of the Chairman, goatuoinualy confirmed the grant of 1,500 i. to Ilittitiu Daniel Roe& • r. finite inquired from what fund, and under ' what circumstances, sums of 5001.' w e r e plod to Captains Ward mud Campbell respectively? • The CHAIRMAN said, they hat}-ben granted under special circumstances, at the recommeudation of the respective Committees to whom the papers had been referred, and if the Holt. Proprietor con ceived there was any thing inrproper, it was un questionably competent fur hint to move for the papers. • Mr. ;lune said, his intention in asking the•ques tion was, to suggest to his Hon. Friend (Mr. Lowndes), whether, Si there existed a fund from which the Court of Directors could remunerate officers, it would not be the better mode to apply to that, if any mute had any claim to prefer, rather thou make the motion of which he had given notice. Mr. LOW N DES assented to the recommendation of Mr. Hutne. and hoped the claims of that class of officers would be impartially attended to when they came before the Court of Directors. Mr. R. JACKSON moved that the correspondence between the Chairman and Deputy-Chairman, and the Right Hon. George Canning, be read. The letter of the Chairman mid Deputy-Chair man. dated 22d December, 1820, anti addressed to the Right Hou. George Canning, was then reit'. It was expreaave of regret at the retirement of the Right Hun. Gentleman from the situation of Chair man of the Board of Control, and of admiration at the manner in which he had conducted himself In the execution of the duties of au office necessarily charattet, and alludilcl'phrlitshifit F e his comitterenee it The. shicthitdieltt (trusts it Ilaelts 'in tio **fit* of the '&4 / India CortiftiViltlto "NIP' the 'aittkatitint or Ginsleirioni - rt 'Achim: 1:04 ' NMI ea es art" i Mince 'of rrel c fitit t» `tt iiitte s 'the EirAt 'Witt Ostit Mr, Canninted itnivrer,Thlted'll4 Igth Lislceittbir, ' AM); spolte'of't he nitwit:A4:ost and General Moor°, to the Governments of 4 Writti. Wet and Madras, es en'eseeintiort toii l gerteirif rule • which, wider the then circutirstailees; he .hariotvls corred its, from the comititeratilin 'that the letestir Of MUM* India were bee . erlitsulted . fry 'tile rappointrnetit of those Gentlemen.' 41r dielotnied iVvir hating • interfered With the patiOnlileof the Direeiont,• • • disclaimer whieto be couside'red d.. necesatify.' after flits impunltiddi which he hicto47 derotood stret4. niisrartautably Molt 'opbu him at a late Geoterdt Coon. After the letters had been read— Mr. JACKSON rbse• and beid it was his intention at a proper time to move the coneurre of the detteral Coati .of'Prtittrletors in the time** expressed in the letter of the Cheirmasmul spi jr I Chairman. HtshOtild . not entertain any idea '4ll . following it op with any otion for a pe:totiiiiey'ro , convener, as hetanu g hC t for Atria which arde held under thi`State,•it t: the Stati rhisid • remunerate, and sintwitlistua mg one instassells - to th e contrary, be did ;tot think the Proprieiririf toll‘e the persons who should reintnierate oaken; spiroisics ed to control them. The Hon. Member cotteldbEd ' by giving formal notice of his intentiou to more. at the next General Court, the cuoCurrence of that Court with the sentiments of the letter Grilse Chairs. The CHAIRMAN WI himself called upon to state a cum:nutlet-a which perhaps was not genettatly known, and which elucidated tits dirittterested aid honourable conduct of . the Right lion. Csentleittan with respect to pecuniary matters. When the Finance Committee of the House of Commons re . commended the abolition of certain sinecure 01E6*, ,They accompanied their Report with a suggestirtn e is that as the Crown would• by that measure lose fin . opportunity of rewarding faithful services, smite more legitimate mode should be adopted to enable the Crown to reward its faithful servants. The President of the Board of Control was then dis tinctly adverted to, and it was recommended th a t alit., a certain peri od of service he should be en -titled to a retiring pension. A Bill was brought in otO enable the Crown to grant pensions to iti own vorrvants, but as the East lathe Company paid the -salary of the Board of Control, it was propmed that a separate - Bill should be brought in for grant ing retiring pensions to the President of that Board. He was proud to say that Mr. Canning refused to bring in that BM: on the ground thut, in all pro bability, he himself would •be the hot object of the Bill. This was a circumstance calculated td add to the high estimation in - which Mr. Canning ails held, and in that view lie had mentioned it. Mr. twits, in justice to an Honourtable Pre peietor not then present, to whose speech at that Court on a former occasion he conceived the let ter of Mr. Canning to allude, recalled to the recol bretionof the Court that he had at the time been mie woderstood, aurt had explained what he meant was by sew of caution, and not as a charge. He had'uo ; objection to the printing of the letters, but it was a question with loin whether, ou the scanty informa teen which would lar before the Court, they ought to express such an opinion as the Him. Gentleman wished' :to obtain, though for himself he thirst de clare. that from every thing •which he knew of the •Iniarrou'iable Gentleman, and he lied . hart occasion to brae a good deal of intercourse with him on business, there was no individual whose notions of India were so correct as thole of that Riski Honourable Gentleman, and tie knew that his principal reason for concuriing iu the oppointmeote of Mr. Eiphinstone and General Mourn, was to give the opportunity of trying the effect of certain beneficial regulations, with all the aid of local experience. and therefore he wi l e free to confess that the Right Him. Gent lemon atousclu a situation to deserve the thanks of the whole body Of East India Proprietors. Mr. Lowness cordially agreed in the prole!" • which had been uttered of the delicacy Add pilaw of Mr. C • lire - conduct, and was• assured iFtbt the knowledge of it would place lien in a higher situation than ever. is public opinion. Mr.' R. JACILCON, in reply so Mr. flame, E:- pressed . his' inittitigin of founding 'himself on 'the 'letter of the Chair!, .whicii, nis'exitreising their cipi pion and that of 94 Direettorsp wholvere best *bk. o appreciate Mr. Catiniog's kpices to the Company, *mild, he thought, beperfeetly satiefoetory groped ' the General -Court to proCied upon. He agreed • ivith Mr. Home that it ‘wait,idefeet In 'diJ system phew a difference •of:potinesfoievitinietititeirded'to firpriye the Company ofthe'sertices of Such a swim as Mr. C3Olllll, but lie doubted whether it was it, detect fur which no adequate 'remedy could toilstryfied. A•Pioprittor inquired if the financial statement was yet tourbeent ? The CH•tutektt said, front the neglect exi .. itt g someolo re, the accounts necessary to make out that statement had not biro received front the Supreme Govetrtmeht. The same Proprietor remarked on the importance of having the public aermints regutisily transmit- Jeff, and asked if the Chairman could say if there was any probability of a war with Sciudeali ? " ‘Tiie Citstamau said, every question Qt peace 'or - writ has bu &gni t ted to the Secret Committee wi der the sanction of an oath ; it was therefore ob viously impossible to•answer the • rrest,on of the Hon. Proprietor officially; but, trom•peivete in telligence which . he could depend optic, no distutii ante was likely to like place•with Semdeah. The Hon. CitilluaaN then olisaved, he hoped, for the support of the Court in what Le•ivita - aboat to submit to them, which was a motion of ailjogrii ; ment, in consequence of the inteutibil intimated by a Proprietor to debate a subject which lie 611. ceived every one would agree with him was impro per to be there discussed. He concluded by moving the Court do now adjourn. Mr. Lowtspes mid, he had. not meant new to bring forward the Address to his Majesty, of which he had Oven notice ; he thuiv,, , lit it ought to .10- brought torward in a Special Court ; but from the length of time which had elapsed, lie was ',Mated to agree aith the Hou. Chairman that it ..mid be no* improper to discure, it. Thi lion. Colcucl STAtItioPE said he Lad no " , MEI i I 1