The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-03-29 00:00:00

' opined with the [Melted States of America, to traded the West ladle Wan& o n the' seine ith'illose•Niaoes es formerly 'The Widows rWviiinq laineil of the low price of anger &d • su 4 orgy.sted that - he duties upon those articles. .... be reustored or lowered, and that they considered. deimessidn in the prices of 'these articles to arise thr•grest ids/iodation of theus from the Island of i. 'She Mee thin. litutleinausaid. Altai as it was e cOnteniplatios of his Majesty's Government to hi e some DORMIIE With reference to this subject. he I refrain from wiakitig any Observation that might tendency to forestall the discussion, which would r take plame.--Iteid, and Ordered w be prehited. Right Hon. Gentleman then presented another 1 from Liverpool Merchants interested in the Canada pith the West lodia Colonies, praying restrictions on the commerce betwixt those Co d America might not he taken off, as it would dealings its grain at present subsisting.—Or s printed. ELLIS preisated a petition from certain the West India Colosies. and Merchants 'la the commerce of those Islands, complaining prevailing dist:time from low Faces, sod praying trade betwist these Colonies and the United t America might be opened. The lion. Gentle. declined entering lute any statement that might ipate the discussion of to-morrow on this subject. lered to be printed. Bois. Mailer also presented a petition praying 'oto the provisions of the, Acts of Parliament , and into the transaction* of the West India ipany, in order to means tieing taken to Oro , property of persons interested iu the West in. ,loners. from the exactions and the excessive rates ,e Company, by a renewal of their Charter.—Pots referred to the Cosnosittee,on foreign Trade. ' NORMAN BY presented a Petitioo from the "Irk, praying for the releise of Mr. Hunt. The seconded the prayer of the Petition, on lac .e severity of tlis sentence; and the unusual suffered-by the prisoner in Ilchester Gaol.— o be printed. ME moved for allettien of the particulars of tact, entered into to supply the Hulks o 'Oh Pro tor a certain period. lions Member also moved for an Account of the Military Expenditure of the Islands of Guern- Jersey, and also an Account of the Bert:nue of, lauds.—Ordered. ME postponed his motion respecting the Civil stood for this evening, till to-morrow, oa tandingthat it was to come co before the Coop Supply. !TR or INTEREET IN Till COLONIES. ISTERTON UHE, in musing for leave to a Bill for regulating the rate of interest in the Colonies and ID Ireland, stated, that by an Act 4th of his late Majesty, persons possessed of real in Ireland and in the British Colonies, are em it to grant securities, for money at the legal inter- Mud and the Colonies, although the securities executed in England. •It was, however, found difficult to raise money on soch securities 'obligation for payment of them in Bog. as such collateral security was considered as the transaction within the provisions of the 'Queen Anne against usury, ems Act was passed t'Sewsion for explaining the Act of the 14th of ing, and declaring that such collateral seen iyment of interest in England, should not ex parties concerued to the penalties of the statute Anne. It has been found that the provisions ' mentioned Act were not sufficiently extensive. occur. where tenants for life, and trustees settlements, have the poorr of charging 'n Ireland or the Colonies with debts limited to iutercsts of Great Britain, namely, b per cent.•, seldom been :praeticable to obtain 'loans of Irish orColonial estates at that rats of interest. provide against this difficulty, and to enable situated to borrow money in LE/SII or Colooiel is proposed to authorise the persons possess powers to borrow mone y at 6 per centanterest, legal interest of Ireland and her Colonies. — intended that the estates themselves should be ith a higher rate of interest than is authorised refs referred to, but it is intended to empower ter himself, or any third party, to become the payment of the additional one per cent.:ts the interest shall in no COO exceed thrt al the laws of Ireland and the Colonies. He it he did not anticipate any objection to this the present distress of the agricultural inter the diffis allies if the West India proprietors, it to wish of Parliament to afford every facility to ,tors and planters in raising money on their BENNET presented a Petition from two persons, ining of the practice that pr evailed of -levying respiting trial, when the trial is put off without of the parties,in consequence of the non-attend. the Jury. The Honourable Member stated, new this practice to prevail to a great extent, for refoi.o. few words from Sir E. Kivaveozent, the Bid read, and ordered to be printed. MR. BENT. nusoN said, he had a Petition to present inhabitants of Bethnal Green, praying for the 3of Mr. Hunt. The Petitioners stated, that it their wish to offer any insult to the Hone, but they saW it openly published as coming from the of a Welber of that House. that the practice of ing-wai as notorious as the sun at noon-day; 1 they read in the Newt Timex of the 13th He. yet a Mr. Spooner bad 'stated at a Meeting at •r, that the House was filled with " boys," who there-to vote whichever way the Minister di mil that lie had seen them collected from coffee balls, and other such places, to give their votes, 'tiring for that is purpose, to knew on whicl2,h i de • •__ ieu An Yak • my could not help thinking, these things being tradicted, that the punishment of Mr.llunt,forme:- expressing an opinion that Morro was necessary, icas too severe. The Hon. M ember ;occluded by :al:sing that the Petition be brought up. Mr. DICKINSON said, he was as antious as any one could be that the doors of that House should be thrown open as wide as possible to admit the petitions of the people . : but he did think the language of thispe titles was not of that respectful nature that could entitle it to be received by the House.—(Hear, hear.)—lt was a most foul calumny to say that " boys" came to that House to vote.—(Hoar, bear.? The House then divided-1: or the motion, 17—A gainst it, 67—Majority'against receiving the Petition, Ml. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a Petition from the inhabitants of Ashton-under-Line; Lancashire, praying for the liberation of Mr. Han; for an Inquiry into the occurrences at Manchester on the 16th August, RIM and for a Reform in Parliament.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. HUME said, be bad a similar Petiti 311 to that just presented to offer ; but after what bad just passed, he was at a loss to know bow to proceed. The Petition of the People of England had been rejected without being beard now. It was an insult to the people, and nothing pointed out the necessity of that Reform pray, eJ for more strongly than the manner in which the late Petition'bad been treated. He repeated that such col- Ana was an insult to the people of England.—(Cries of 0 Order.") The SPEAKER said be was sure du: Hon. Member, 1 la . • . . AIMPINFIIIii# . 'night he opt ;,-• i . • *. • solar. the Oa ... ' ' .4,‘, 'lbw Trif is ith 1 1 - • *.. • .... viritculatWi • 1 '' '*" •! • roti.„'aria•-su • should he re I i i i . • • the .deprfsail frmh thr•gte I' f • . A:4W. Ibe is the roots.' stitute some •4 • would refrain have s tee& k . ' shortly take The Itigir / 'Petition fret t 4 :trade of Van I • i hat the rut • 'lonia aad A II i '• • affect the de; tiered to be 1 I ' • Mr. C. R. Plasters of t 'ferreted in t of the prevai .that the Inc 'States of Ar wan deciliter '.anticisate th i —Or ered t • • The Hou. i :inquiry into , relative to, I /kick Comps , k • .• - - tut the pros t . • : . die Colonies • i • k,f the Calor lieu referred 1.9fil NOI :Iv . . • •,•••• Cite of Yowl Noideland I rnuut of the hardships Si • 4 tplerell to I Mr. 1104 the Colorise . • . • . • 4isittas foe is ' • ~ 1 The Hew '. • • - • .'. - trisil arid Mi '‘••• i •-• , pry aad Jere 4 -. • .. . those Island 1 - 1 Mr. HUM ' list, which .. • N lilt utelerstat itattei• of Ss • -• .• .. . It .51 f.,-. Mr. DIM! • ' .I.riog in a 1 e . •‘...,, , British Colo ' ' 7 ••• of the 14th r • • .. - estates in Ir. . • , • . powered to 1 f, est of Irelas -. . .. . illiould he ei . Es.treuitly J . . - • • . - nitbout ratio . . '.4t ~ • lona ; and w . , • •• , bringing tor '• . ' '' . ' Miattate of Q! , • - in the last li H , late Kin .-, ' • . , • rley for pays • e h , "..6 the per to: Ourell A - -- • - it:• :he last it - • e. I.lauy Me! li tirtder Nail e - •• • • *estates inir • ' ...-.1.- ', -, . • •fk• , tbe legal in . . • • 'and it has to . . .., • ' m lia oney if • In order to , 'persons so si . , a btates, it is i rig these p< 1 i Tying the I • . ll is not int thsrged wit by the pows • • • the borrowe tonnd for ti as in that it *lo•aed by tl iii sated that 1W!, as in t est , . and th v.ust be the the pearl& estates. Mr. HES r ornplainin; C.cs fir riot' • the wish of • owe of tit that hr km -*Li - celled I After a f ' . slim wits re • • Sir R. • from the in liberation I . teas not th .1 . when they mouth of a • i , seat-satin; and when t hruary, thi iroreester, were sent r.xted, and iil Louses, Ifs ante teqoi arawllsold r + 'key ; they uncootrad k . , ly expres I .l was too se i that the P Mr. Dl ..,....i.i to resist i .. ple—Olear.) . • Mr. HUME sai.l, be bad always noderstood thatO was the righted 'the people of t h ai country to petition Parliament. and he Lad yet to learn that it is as the right of that House to reject those Petitions without having them heard. If, upon their Wog read, there appeared to he objectionable language, they might be rejered.— The Petition be had to present was from the Mayor and Conine:malty of the Town and Borough of Monmouth. It stated that, in their opinion. the salvation of the coun try &pealed on a Reform in the House of Commons. toil that without this the liberties of the people, already in a lingering state, would be overwhelmed. The Pett goners also stated, that they were aware that petitions of this nature did not meet with the attention which they thought they deserved, from those who called them selves the Representatives of the People. They con eluded by stating, that they joined the already countless number of their countrymen to praying for a speedy and I effectual Reform of the House of Commons. Ili(Mr. Hume) most cordially joined in this prayer, and was convinced that in spite of all their temporizing that R•- farm must come at last. lie moved that the Petition be brought qp. Lord G.SOMERSET did not think there was any thing objectionable to the Petition in point of language. but be must say that lie did not think it was the Pennon of the Mayor awl Comnionalty of Moomoutb. Mr. GOURTENAY rote to second the motion of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen. that the petition be brought up. He did this, in order to pant:out the manifest dlr. ferenct betwixt it and that which Hoe Hots. bad reject 'ad, in the laugnage.—(Hear.)—lf that Hon. Member could not see the difference, be (Mr. Courtenay) was at a loss to understand why, even in his opinion, it was so palpable. lie could not help remarking, however. that after they bad beard the objectionable lauguage read by the Member p o ling the petition, it was not quite fair reasoning to argue, that the petition bad been rejected without being heard read. That, be apprehended, was quite sufficient ground for the House to express an opinion whether or no the petition was of a nature to be received. The greatest enemies to the right of petition ing were those who advocate the indulgence in the most licentious language. This petition was of a different nature in language, and therefore he supported the mo tion for its being received. Mr. BENNET contended that the only test by which a petition presented to that House was to be tried was, whether it was presented for the purpose of insult, or for the , purpose of exposing a grievance, and praying for redress. Trying it by that test, there could be no obiection to the Petition which Lad just been rejected. Woe out by stating that the Petitioners had uo wish to insult the House. Gould any one doubt that the late Mr. Punsonby had used the expression imputed to him ? If any one did, be was ready to prove it at the bar of the these io five minutes; and if any one doubted the fact that the Parliament of 1105 was corruptly con strutted, lie would only ask to have one of the Secre taries to the Treasury of that period at the Bar to prove it also. That House must be reformed sooner or later ; and he must say that be agreed with Lord Chatham. that if it did not reform itself, it would be reformed from without with a vengeance. Sir J. NEWPORT said, he had given his vote for.the acceptance of the Petition, upon the broad principle that the House should hear theerontents of a Petition before it decided upon receiving or rejecting it. That. lie thought, the House was at least bound to do, in the ex ercise of so severe a power. A judgment could nut be formed on a eiogift pamage ; and, probably, had the coolest of the. Pftte,Lloesi reeo,4lweal9 out Lave Iva. rejected. Sir It. WILSON explained. Mr. DICKINSON said, it was the hnsioesl of a Mem ber to open to the House the contents of a Petition before he moved for its reception; and upon that the House was competent to decide, whether tit-Petition should or should ,not be received. The scandalous assertion that the House was filled with boys was sufficient to justify its rejection. Sir M. W. RIDLEY coincided in the opinion ex pressed by his lion. Friend near him (Sir .1. Newport) as to the principle of receiving or rejecting Petitions. Mr. Alderman WOOD thought the House had inisno derstood the contents of the Petition in question, inas much as that it did not state the objectionable part abon. boys, &e., as their own sentiments, but as having been spoken by a Mr. Spooner, at Worcester. The Petition was then read. Mr. HUME, iu moving that the Petition be laid on the table, begged to state, in opposition to the statement of the Noble Lord opposite (Lord G. Somerset), that this was not the Petition of the Mayor and Commonalty of I the Town and Borough of Monmouth ,• lie positively de clared, that al.hough none of the Noble Lord's support ers might be among the Petitioners, that it was signed by the lets Mayor, the Bailiff, and many of the Bur gesses. Gerd G. SOMERSET did not mean to cast any impu tations on the persons who had signed this Petition, but ha shoul.l not do his duty to the inhabitants of that respectable town, if he did not bay, that to his know ledge, lie did not perceive the name of any one of the respectable persons alh.ted to the Petition. The Petition was laid on the table, and ordered to be printed. The lion. G. LAM Et presented a Petition complait:ing of Agricultural Distrest from Manley. IRELAND. Mr. S. RICE took the opportunity of stating, with re ference to papers moved for and then ou the tat.. , eels tire to the state of Ireland, that there were two points greatly complained of, with reference to the management of public business in that country. The one was, that there was considerable delay in making returns to the orders of that house, and the other, that the peasantry. of the -co nntry were elhargeJ with the expense of makiog them oat . In his opinion.the public ofmes were hound to furnish papers to that House without any charge: But it would be seen by the records that the exactions for such expenses on the people of Ireland amounted to from three to tire thousand pounds a.year. He. hoped the simple mention of this would cause an end to be pat wolf practice. The Returns to which be referred them on the table were respecting the Spirit Licences, and the amount of Malt Duty: by which it would he seen, that the relief to Ireland from the remission of the Malt Duty was not equal to what had been anticipated by the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Great abuses atill pre vailed as to the spirit licences, and he thought the whole system must be revised. Ile moved time the Returns be printed. thisght" Ilene!, who, on a fall ceasid - erstiem — pitoily of Act of Parliament, but of corempeadeace on which that Act was teaseled. &slaved then-Obis-gesvommena• was not precluded from may new arranpaseat. He in , treated the Right Hon. Gentlemae, therefore. as a tow dian of the pablic Interests, not to KISS ro Tugs of the Bank, but to refer the subjesit tette exaodeird, by a Committee. Ile suggested, too, that some plan should be adopted to make the balance of four millions available to the elublic. He bad no doubt that not lees i this 200,000/. a-year might and ought to be aimed is the transactions with the Bank. A IiENTLIIMAN ander the Gallery (whose mine Iwo could sot learn) asked theChaneellor of the Exch.- ' goer whether there was any intectioa of publishing the statement of unclaimed dividends. which had sot sow appeared for some dale ? The UHANCELLOK of the EXCHEQUER was not prepared to mate without making as inquiry.—Or dered. Lord A. HAMILTON moved for ss Account of the Produce ef the roar-and-sixpenny Duties on. Houses tooter 51. rent in Scathed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not object to the mottos, but said, be steuld oppose any re• mission of the Tae.--Ordcred. Lord A. HAMILTON moved for a cetera of the total ' amount of the duty of 48.61. upon houses of less yearly rent than 51. in Scotland. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had 89 objection to the' retina, but should resist any remission of the duty. Oa t!.e motion of Mr. GRENFELL, certain returns on the table of the gold and silver coin is the kingdom were ordered to be printed. The Hon. Gentleman ob served. that the gold bad not been drives oat of the country by the silver, as had iu some quarters been pre dicted. lIIDDLItSiX COURT 011 CONSCISNCE. Mr. LENNARD wished to call the attention of the !louse to a subject which he considered of importance , es it materially affected the labouriog classes is the county of Middlesex. Ile wished to bring before them the state of the County Court of Conscience. From papers which he had moved for in a former year, it ap peered that the number of causes annually decided in this court, bad been about 17 thousand. Last year, he believed, that there was an lunatic, and that the total number was scaly 18 thousand. Two days in each week were given to the hearing of them, and than it would be seen that there were 180 to be disposed iof in each day. In coosequence,.it often happened, that persons were kept in waiting from nine in the morning' till five in the laicisation, sod from the regulations acted upon, a person living eight or nine miles off, might fr quently have to travel that distance four or five day** and thus in fact, lore so many days to recover a debt of fifteen or twecty shillings. He had no charge to woks against the individual who presided over that Ceswe Much to his credit be 'had reduced the fees since he bad been in office, but dui person who had last held that sites- 1 tioa had considerable augmeoted them, and as this might be done again it was proper that the Constitution of the Court should be looked into. The fees mei,' from the county clerk's own statement amounted an, ally to about 2,1001. Out of this he had to pay the peaces of the Establiabment, taxer, stationery, and officers employed ander him. lieducting 5001. charges, and he could not suppose them to amount s. more, it would leave the prieeipat -an income of 1,5001. or 1.6001. per annum. For this merlin ha thought ' halos of the office onglit to be performed is a way tle,. shouts completely answer the purpose originally intend ed. He thought it strange, that during tbe2s years the I ateelerk held the si tuation.no account ofunclaine ednosiey had ever been given, as from a variety of eircumetesces be should have expected that considerable sums would be left at different times in the hands of the Court. It bad been arranged by the late Clerk, that persons bar ing money to receive from the Court should apply for it between the bouts of ten and two on one day in the week—Monday. The consequence was, on that day a vast crowd assembled, and persons frequently went two or three times without being able to °lndio these money. If a Committee were granted, he would suggest the ex pediehey of allowing suitors to apply fee their money any day in the week. With the number of cases that DOW frequently came before the Court in one day, it was really but a mockery of justice to pretend to dispose of them. He therefore hoped that the Returns made to a former Order of the House on this subject should be referred to a Committee to be appointed for the purpose ofinquiring if the amount of the present fees might not be diminished, and also to inquire Into the xpediency of the County Clerk's sitting oftener than once a week is the Hundred of Ossulston, and of increasing the number of sittings in other Hundreilsin the County of Middlesex. Mr. BERNAL was sorry to differ from the Hon. Gentleman, and thought it rather bard on the county clerk, against whom no charge was preferred, that the subject should be brought forward as it had been. No complaint had been preferred against this Gentleman during the three years he had filled this situation, and lie had to state that lie had disbursed not less than tun thousand pounds out of his own pocket to provide a suitable building for the purpose— the present—Court of Conscience , in Kingsgate-street. He, therefore, thought it rather unfair, that his emo luments should be called in question. To him it app. peered that the subject could only he properly brought forward on a Petition. He thought there were DO grounds for the minim Mr. 0. BENNET supported the motion, though the Hon. Member had not adopted the most prudent course of bringing the question before the House. He consi dered there was sufficient ground shown for inquiry.— He would beg. to Issiew if the situation of the Mite( al eer bad not been bought and sold. or what right the Sheriffs of London bad to make sums of money by the disposal of it, as it was reported that they had done?— He regretted that his Hon. Friend bad not taken an ' other course. Ile should have brought in a Bill to regn iate the Court, which would have been the most effec tual mode. it was said th it the assistance of three Jurymen. Ile bad seen them, lead they appeared to look more like convicts than men competent to serve on Juries, and far different from the description of persons who were imagined suitable for such a duty. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL opposed the motion. He did not think there was any case made out for Par- liamentary interference. The constitution of times Courts even had the support of the best law authorities —in particular the commendation of Sle. Justice Black* stone. The Learned Gentleman It length defended the practice of the Courts, and the form adopted by the pew sent Chief Officer. He praised the superintendence of Mr. Heath. and concluded by giving a decided negative to the motion. Mr. LENNARD then replied, and said, that findior the sense of the House agaisst him. he should not press his motion. Ile could nut, ho.. ever, help observing. that an itulividna:, who was in bad health at the time, had offered five years' purchase, or 10,000:. for the ai -1 tuition. After aleyrordsfrom Mr.W. Entre, 51r. P. Monne, and Mr:IV. Cot; the question was put, and the 'motion negatived without a division. The Irish Five per Cents. Gill went through a Com- 414 ad 4 , --- "r""' Ill i los to•aertelr. __ 8i11... essil edseaday um. I al" eTALISTI6 M SMITH !ishOil - io ask the Riot Hosourable Hindmost opposite. wily no pan of the twiner which bad last veer bees voted for the Americas -toyagem Ladle' bees itaid ? After 30 years*. Wiens tion, they bad been allowed 10s. ia the Ismail ; b ut ist is. limbyet been paid. The CHANCELLOR of die EXCHEQUER mid, the money was issued at mire; but others bad maw Is l o w a with claims, as valid as ilmme of the list which bait" ; before the hams; and the &lee had hoes ocessieo l d the difficulty ofasosetainiegmuo wan really @Wei% the mosey. we i te l la r e ia W c ke. HA . n (X) r N o U c io ß iresti T : o lsodbo H of lti st :ei x is s e ritsta s. mtau that u m ; 'Hilt very considerable rains had .beou takes, bog bad been found muy difhiali to proceed. If S l y es , stepped out of Ask* wisipli.bod beim beton the hoo k it would be eztremely diffiffidt to find a limit Unho o k s. Mr. W. SMITH said. the claims bad bees kno t forward by those who related to embark is Mo course with others ; but who. in ronsejamice of the it. der of the house. had again tome forward with titsie • 111CPTLT. Oa the question that the report of the ordinate @L:, mates be brought op. • ' Mr. tiRENEELL wished to rensisa theboare, Sat o T angy distinct pledge bad been given last ,thao saki wki Ercbases of stores shed 00 . thee s TOW corm. • had received ieformatioa, for the s h i c a , 'weilld not be answitableo that si n thel penal oo i,, tracts to db inconsiderable matter bad beta 4 164b 7 (private biddi or. Mr. R. WARD said, that is *Di case oak, sidihett o a coosiderable ansonot, bail • mits, Ifiesi h0 0 **,,,4 by private contract, to Messrs. Cra y and,CL ..T oo , was, that there was MA a ie dos aur ip t meson large a quantity of iron, chordate tiny tail Mt get such good terms by pablis mil as by pave woutrad. Sir ULYSSES BURGH maintained that die BHA "Inas I. be left to he owe disc recipe in melt mama a eo n% I.gyg o sung the idea that the lead o f Ordiatee " to its owe diserstiee , idel e et ether Boards were _ to consult weary. Th e principle of private be thought Melly oejec. tio sable. Mr. R. WARD explained. After a few words from Mr. W. Surer, Be Ihm a Bettor, and Colonel tioeserr. die Bard vol waned to be received. On the motion fir it. being read, Mr. °RESPELL again spoke agaiest the.prietiyia of private bidding in the ease of old stores. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER aid i; was agreed, on all hands, that public comprffilee wei the best mode; bat he knew of se la dam to bind the diacretion of the Hoard is the ale ef sit stoves. Sir J. NEWPORT contended that fly me contract was not the rule, but the exceptise. Tim Gal. lent Officer opposite (Sir U. Burgh) unease We led *o stating that sales ought table at the aole *credos of • Board. Upon Military Mr. HUME contended, that the apariefillq* ie popertioo to the utility of the eel, aeloweds redaction to 10,2401. Mr. F. PALMER supported the emseethosel. Lord PALMERSTON defooded the mediessit as being conducted upon as asmoial a ads NI possible. Mr. F. PALMER explained. Mr. HUME remarked open the dispropottion of tie utility of the school in respect to its expense. Sir H. HA RLHNOE supported the resolution,aal '44 the Hon. Member for Aberdeen bad on a forweroceuios made an egregious mistake in the number of rude' educated in the Military College. The Llossersl:4 Member stated the number of cadets at 1761, sod iteat he male a mistake of no less than 1300.--(1100,bco) He (Sir H. Hardinge) could easily nceoint for the sa ner in which the Hon. Oentleraan fell into that In looking over the returns of the number in the CAM each year, for five years past, the Hon. Metshersdad them altogether. Finding, for instance, 370 is Iks Cs:" lege, in 1917, the same number, or thereabouts. is 13 A &c.. the lion. Member pia them altogether, aed tes:kr granted there were 1764; forgetting that fear yawn's required for the education of each clue. Bet thr fact was, that the number educated is that period iris Y 7 450 cadets. Those misstatements of the Hon. Veer. if confined to that house could be weeded with sear effects • but they went forth to the couowy,sed visa culatetito do a great deal of mischief. the Ka. Neil . bet's statement that there were 1764 csaets to 6 . 30 ' tary College io 1817, ISIS, 1919, ke2o, sod ISM, ins jest as reasonable as if be were to say, that became thee were 65S that year, therefore there were three thoaaal two hundred and ninety members in five years.—(" hear, and a laugh.) Mr. HUME said that he would repeat what he bed said on that subject, when the vote was before &Com mittee. He would mai mai* jbat the College cost. 1.10 1 1816, the sem of I 13.2906;wed . eve of the nodes cadets educated during that period. @elf Id° had td° t eommissions, so that t he education of 160 ofberry c the country 115480/. He objected toast efcratiotv.ef. more cadets than there could be commissises prowled for. The House then divided on the austualo st • 114 clambers were— mbers were— Ayes, 15—1'0e5,35-51ajority against it,lo. The original Resolution was then aenit°. 31r. HUM moved a reduction o r 10.091 f. to E tY Grant of 35,0001. for the 31asterGeners1 of the 04 mance Establishment, and a redaction g 'wing the amount of Pay to the Dire ent, re a ntril• Surgeon-General of the Medical Establishm useless offices. Sir U. BURGH opposeJ the Amendment. Mr. H. WARD Ita!Pd the services o f Sit .I.*'" and contended the Grant was not eremite, s.l fe fore trusted the House would reje ct the Antrt.Jarr,:. Mr. 11. D.IVIIN supwiried use Amend ment. Mr. T. WILSON declared be should voce for tbeso , gins T ! qnv,tion. he Amendment was then negatived ni:h.ist testi: The other Resolutions were agreed to ,3 The other Orders of the MT we re then sod the Howie aujouroed it .drePo o'cbck. Mr. Williams, the Barrister, was ss: 3 "" 3 " IS ; day iast, for Lincoln, vrithont opposition, in the to of the late Col. Sibtbore. Tax stATlgi . Al!• • i; y :irsald see tba(t . he . not pail& if itkirifat s litirer4 opinion trtv troll e Witter. tba f door* to use the lieges/it **hided - to is whit theism was stated to f bsofts* h t hes isto furth aet em mesideratian tit that is no oacwithin tho wags that it s'm el* lad bees properly teL tie The Scotch &rids' Atesuats mold *the consistent 'with order mot eleirMet wthilJ ban bees. different 3 arid Ldlad As Uri ilea', red committed fir Wmisek is a cderve thus masifeatty ol us usozio to lb. a Lawyer , who could sever be s i eelioned without res Mr. WILLIAM &Ma SMITi CAN *ASA vial uM.lk • . or dosses! offwitimist a regret. Ihm.lsto -Ihimosami- H t .n.e.• I maw 0 , Oaf eh. Helmon& Goetkmam memite. non ,„d the Boar . . ~ lIIMIRIDIM Mr. R. WARD and Sir U. Silo's' ' te es Boa ex . It was then agreed tbakthe " Wadi, sat ten- t h e tel Besoletions were agreed to . R i l i F o6, f„ On the vote of 5,6174 he VP- 4 eidsdisiat . t- d to mot. ow . Mr. HUME tioragM are addleitiblisr4 isiciot,ssi the 'fit i• lw!rr dew P1PM4.114W4 a m .s 1 iiirordoesse e i - ,„,d. Mr. WARD did ' t h e dome meant bptho _ . e i e ,, ne such board. ores Upon that ter granting lOW. for didilltßOW m id 31ilitary Colley@ at Sandbant, .. • ;.„ ; __l MA:YAGEMICIRT OP ?OR DEPT. Mr. BANIiiS - ,i;i;oving for the printing of the Accounts respecting the Sinking Fund, asked thc Chan. cello: of the Exchequer whether he had turned his at tention to the redaction of the expense of the Manage ment of the Debt? fle suggested that a Committee should be appointed to consider the subjert. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER still. lie bad not turned his attention to the immediate reduction of this expense, because, till the:expiration of the Charter of the flank of England. the charge of the ma. • negement was settled by law. Mr. GRENFELL said. he was aware that as the ease had been stated to the Law Officers of the Crown, no doubt an opinion had been given that the charge of ma nagement could nut be altered : bat it was well known