The Statesman. — London, England, 1810-12-19 00:00:00

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At the period of his Aajesty's former attack io 1804, was his Majesty's tight as much affected as it is at present ? No ; I did not observe that his Majesty had any defect of sight at that period,: Is Mkjesty's 4gist now become seri difec: tire ? Very defectite. Is that detect of sight likelgto lqive say Influ• ... REPORT on the STATE of Ilis MAJESTY'S kIEALTII. or have you had any opportunities of seeing his Majesty, in the intervals between those illnesses of 1788, 1801, and 1804, up to the time of your being called in, in this present illness ? I have had few opportunities of seeing his Majesty,: esteept in those illness .s. I hare liad -occasion to. see him two or three times on my own business, *hen he did me tiiffl honour of appointing me his Physician Extraordinary, and then. his fliysiciap in Ordinary;, but not medically... You havjstated, that the greater number of pa. tients labi;uring under this same sort of iofirmity as his Majesty, who have come under your observe. floe, have recovered ; do you, mean, in the greater ottinber, to include patients of the ads at which hit Majesty has now arrived ? It haft not uccurrml td me, to see any persona at that advanced period of We.' tabulating. undecaisla ,110 you know. that medical people in g . enetil sider, that a life idratices,. after a certain 0~ recovery is deemed more improbable? Xes:ptit here that is. the general opinion. 'Theo,-in the greater number of patients wbd .l have reeoircied, as stated by you, all those lisstl:j cuts a class of age below that of the King ? '1 Milk if •i.re wai one whose age I do not re. eidhiCtialsooeiy. piaire Iron been in the habit of attending any nO tho.P.itttheribuspitals f.rr the receptionr of patients un der tili.dfsease? ' No, I have not been it' the habit of attendingliny hospital appropriated to the recep. lion of inch patients. Yuu have stated, that you entertain a very fa- Variable opinion of the King's ultimate recovery ; and you have stated one of the reasens.uf your opi- Won to be, the soundness of his Majesty'S constitu. dun; in those , patients whom you have attended, have you not found that very sound constitutions have often been afflicted with' incurable mid - tidies of this nature ? No, 1.4 not know that hase often foetid that,. , Have youtound It in any astance I I have seen • .people who have not recovered. With very sound constitutions? Not nith.such constitutions .as the Kiog ; probably, I should have •had great hopes of them, if they had. But I can. not charge my mind now with every, patient of the I kind I have attended during forty years, The ge. cent-impression made upon my mind does not au thorise me to answer that question decisively. • When the constitution is so seundos to afford the Medical attendant no reason for the mental tnfirmity as arising out of that constitution, do you think 'that the probability 4f recovery is mote or less from ',that circumstance? Mereicertaluly i fronva sound _constitution. If you cannot trace any Mlle for the infirmity ? If I cannot trace any cause, if there is no heredi. jary taint, or any obvious cause fur it, no external [injury, or any thing which looks like organical af. I fection of the brain • I should apprehend a sound constitution affords much the greatest probability of recovery. You have stated„ as another reason, the extreme accuracy of the Kings memory; in patients la. boaring under this inhrtnity, not extreme am. racy of memory very fonnesity and sometimes what Y•be Called morbid icier observed that. du have also accounted for the probability of 1 ' the King's "reCoVery , by observing the strict, simple, • . • and tempfeate diet the King has always used; when ,p4tients have - botusunder your ohservation, whose 'ltabita'uf 'life hive been exactly the revers* of the Kipp, tat not the reducing them to that strict .andieMper i ate diet snd life to which the King has accuptowed, afforded the best ground of hope for Medkcal Men of thaitreeovery ? ' When excess in the habits of life have been too much indulged, the reingial . of that exeche and the subsecrent atlop, : . - And you have heard that, subsequent to that de claration, there were occasional paroxisms of the disorder, though slight and short.? They could hardly be called paroxisms ; it was more' a hurry of manner than any thing else.; as I understood from those who law his Majesty. Were you a patty to the declaration,. in the three ; former illnesses,. that the King was perfectly wolf ? Not in the three former instances : at the 'pun that declared the king to be well, in the yeao 1789, I' then thought the King well ; that was, I thitil4 in the beginning of March, 1789. Were you a party to the deelAration, that the King was, perfectly well in 1789 ? 1 was. lo 1801, were you a party to the declaration, that the King was perfectly well ? No ;in 1801, after the King was so Muck better, that the tin! CilaaCel ' lo the utevni•-j, withdrew : the King 'etas gobit lien to Kew ;' anif 7 thought the Kia • was so will, 1 did not apprefietia it to be nectseary fur me to attend any longer. tfte : Kin,; had a roe lapse, I underttood, at K,ew ; but I did not see him in that relapse. Can. yoe recollect the date of the last bulletlgy that was signed by you, is the year 1801 j No l have ne memoraltduna of it. Who a ere the medical, attendants upon the King, on his relapse at I(evi,. in - 1,801 ? I beiimie tare late Dr, Gisburiset, and 11s. John and_ Dr. Robert Willis. ' do not know whetheT \lr. Dendas might see him ; bat they were the only physicians attend. ing him at the time. Wert. you a patty, to the declaration, that the, King was perfectly Well in the year 1804? Yes,' I think I was at that time. Was there any relapse after that •deelarlation, in . that illness ? Not any, thatlL underctwid ; 1 dial ; not see his Majesty attaX that ; but I never heard of any afterwards. When yon withdrew in theyear 1801, was it in consequence of any difference of opinion with the' other medicaLattendants? None in the world"; it was merely betause . I 'thought - that the Kinit*as great deal better, and that my 'attendance was no longer necessary at that time. • You have mentioned the King's enmpetency to business, in the intervals cf periods of which may occur after the - diseaae hai,in a great•tneasnrc ceasetr; during' thire periods of fluky, d o you think that the King would be competent to transact any business, public or private? I cannot !Owes that question from my osen knowledge; btanthatk understood was this, That if the King was, from any little opposition, rather in a flurry, if he was told there was any buSineS, tq transact ) it composed him Areal" ; .that was the tystimony that was given' to. me by several persons.who saw him at the time. ; Who were the persons who gave you that testi : . molly ? I cannot tell exactly now t it setts thaw who were about him at the time ; I think I hard 'of that kind from Dr; Heherdeu, but 4 do not mean to rely upon toy quotatiou. • In 1801 there was a relapse ? Yes. But after the complete recoveries ill 1789 and 1804, those tarries occu rred ? Yes. I did not un. Prt,e Committee appointed tantalite the rhy. ;w i r y, who have attemied his Majesty during his ; tuu.ehing the side of his Majesty's health ; ,and to re i sort such - elaminatioo to the Rom; pII 11 ant to the order of - the Hoofs pro." to examine the said Pliyaleiono: tel e a.: ,tifldtioll is as follows ; FRI D A I,', apC.14,.1,81p. Dr. li E vair aßf t. Ilettiiikiki Gulled•in, cad Examined, Is the state of his Atajesty's health s o a s to render Lim incapable of coming . in petsoa t , l'Ar!imeetitk or of attending to any kind of . A:A.4er. Certlioly, tifi V Wet; Arnie upon ids Majesty ' s ultimate recovery lore the disease, or likely to have any influence upon the Aeration of the disorder, supposing him eltiniately to recover ? During a certain period of the disease, and under certiin circumstances, has being Mind is rather a beneficial circumstence, becaore it later. cepts some sources of irritation ; but at another 'period of site disease, It milk as ativ.erse: to him, because It also intercept' Ml* airlifts!, iii auteeeii raent. . Competing, tbco, the different tendoockti of thok . *defectiveness of his Majesty's sight, do you, spoilt the whole, conclude that the defect of sight 1* fa. Tearable or unfavourable to-the, ultimate recovery of his Majesty, or tends to shorten or to prolong the duratilin of his illnessoupposing him ailtima‘eff ito recover ?. That is a question It can hardly maiie' - up my mind to ; I see it • operate 'Sometimes to hilt - • I bene f it; and there are times s‘hen-laliiiik that tha",, iloi,s Of sight *lll he, a grievance, by. prev'enting tho . 1 amusin g him and abstracting him from himself : Ja ne' what effect it o 1 ill have upon s ec. the protracting or , celerating his recovery, is a great deal more than i can give d definitive answer to. In persons labokiriug under the disease under which his Majesty now unfortunately labours, do not the persons attentling.them address their coup. tenances and manner, very frequently ! very much to the eye of the afflicted person ? Ares, undoubt. i F aly. . • . lines not the eye afford to the persons attending . persons afflicted as his Majesty is, when in its per. feet State, a means of centroid over the afflicted person ? I have understood, that sometimes that effect has been prodeced, bur I cannot say that 4 ever saw - any reinai kable instance of it. \V as not Dr. .S,immons called in, to attend the King, at the commeecenient of his present illness I I understood he was ; but that was before I was , there. . , He did not centinue in that attendance Z 14 d14 .., not see the King. . 4t.ris you more or less sanguine in your hopes of the King's asitimete recovery,•than you *ere when pi, w ere ezamitted balers. ..the . Priv' poUoill.k ( . ern apt less sanguine of his ultimate recovery, in I was then. Have you experietaced any disappointment, iltho ' ' expectations yen eatertained wheu you were elms mined before the Privy Connell, as to his Majesty'S recovery, as to the time of it'? ',nit •Majetity's re. lapse, after the examination of the Physicians be. ' fore tho-priey COuneil, certainly distressed qs, and - put the prospect of iirimediat keicuieiy to 11 peaces. - distance, but I do not thiiii of ultimate recovery. 'Are yuu of 'opinion, that • a person !levies bai t with an interval of several years, repeated tack, - of this Malady, is on the last - attack more or lee, • likely to recover; than a person, who has not been I .so precious l y subject to attack ? I should rather ' think that the circumstance Of his having got well Oefore, from similar attacks, is a fouudatiou of hispi that he will from this. Dues ati'venced age, t..oupled with prior attacks of thdsieie disorder with whiCh his M'ajeSty is nose &filleted, make any difference, in your calculation, as to the probability of his reeoiery'? '„ t. would iii „ iir . . ' any other case ; but there is soineffiiii loectiliar . in the King's, Ido nut think It has ' hilliell off • „, lc t . , cot:advisee. What are the peculiarities wh ich take ' the Wive, • cesq out of Tour general Observation ?' Thos4. l eir. .. cemstances to which I l'ave "Heeled before ;- the ei. gour still of certain raceities of his toiedi and there being urn meek of fatuity' about hint. You hap, Clatety that you understood' the causal of bii.' Majesty's present m alady to *aye hien' his inxiety -about the Pritieesi Amelia ;' have Toil beesi• ii, f a rt sied; . what. setteltip posed to be Ihe maim" of . - . this atteeki his Majetity etas in 1789; 4801, uud - rfai; or Whether thosteattaells wereieferred to atii • knows* cause ? .1 do not knew that the fint , attac ' - was • referfir4 to aiti It **ark cause. lir 1801-, I did etttle'ritalik.'thnre weirs. canoe; Ltfid not un'der: i •stand • &tills kilifitakete erits any assignable 'cause: • Wirenriti ereeetalidAitsen the 3d of Nevem:. ter, did the Physleiturs, , seffil had been previoupif , in t iteiulanie; iiifeein•you•kheir the first syriiproin,:, iif his , Majesty's p •iesinit cortiplaint was observed b ye ' them? ~ I.lkink they tilki mss un the 15th of De. • totiort: - ' • , ~ • , Haveisny of the Royal Familrseeta his Majesty . „`shiEe flub it ife. b*li•iii.attetillatice ? Ni,. . , I.lii-anylersone' Otter (WI/ the" Physicians awl the Attendants under their•kispectiou, aeen hitt Ma. jest); since -yisot haat. been .-in attendance ? Th 4 o day Lard Chancellor .silts Otte tins-dal before . yestart • s . • , ' *. • . ," .fttl . .i' : •-- 7 .. " ilid the ' f ord Chaneellor tit* -to yirrif Oetl:4 • .. y-orir opinion-as to-: . the prophesy nr •irnprepti , . of •- i seeingble. Majeity before he taw him ? ' 'ta l i , . he did. ' •'• ' ' . • Haal any of - the Royal. Family . peolioaoly sp 'i,• , :plied for pet-Mission t 6 sets his-Majeftf+ahia t h a t , • we understood:- . • • ,Was it. . vi ith 'the raniment conetririllailkof the PhYsiCians that no,in]nry Ouulii. arias : to Mar Maj o id slots health, that the Loi . d Chancellor *at permit: teal to see his likiesty the day Adore rite/Aar/ `PIO • liras Tr '14401140 disstitotient s store bras t ~ .. •. ~ ~-,, .. • 4 4 4 , •4•4.. • 0.- , • .4•• Ip, ~ob . i a tile. 101.0. arc the !topes you cntertaikof his Mines ? •, t o, rv corevy ? I still entertaio vor,y Confident dopes, ' 0: his Niaje.ty's rocorery. ' ._ . Di you found the opinion Otre'rk. of your , answer .. is th a previous titiestlorsi epos, the pattletilar qc ,...onis of his, Majesli's 4order ; or, upon „ e;4 l o;pefielice in other c ased'of the same na l ,. t ore; or, upon ltnth ! Upon bOth ; and for Mi. won : with respect to the particular symptozneof I l i ' Majesty, they:ore fneno table, from Ihn tirettin, ,te...ct of the stiondinias of his cunalitetion,. pre. s ltetl by sim pie and temperate diet s an 4 the rage. l o boiti of his life; and alio: boetuselsis rootuory is a, strung and as curtest ,il . lolll' it was, hit per, eetltiout as, ncute• (his jodgment bi perverted, and l o w lost hisdirkerction at present); and &btu be.' cx.ist. 1 hie veatt - his kitttesty recorerfrom - three Otitis of the Fame disease, in some parts of which I think he Us ban sena worse than ha is at pre. . sot , nether, in that particular species of disorder 11:•Majesty has fatten into, it has been found, from na:rience, that the_ greater number of persons so if , OA hare bccu cured ? I believe, mu& the plier number. Col yo-n form any judgment, or probable con. te , tere, of the duration of his Majesty's illness ? I cannot ; oar hopes and expectations of a ody recovery have fluctuated With the iluctua. film of his Majesty's complaint ; ,, trot nothing has bitato prevented me from thinking favourably of . tl.e ultimate termination of the disease. 4: far as experience enables you to judge, do )0 think it more probable that his Majesty will, aiA not recover, so as to render him capable of ;ittenStq to public business ? Yes, I have no 4,y_v.; *ors is enck an iittogrioy of mind about hit i ttijet . y, that when once his abeirations are gone. he wilt recover perfectly ; how soon, it is impolible for me to say. f suppose some vestiges of complaint may remain when the principal part of the tlisApt. OA be removed ; btit I have no doubt of hi . s being able to discharge his fintctious . , jail as well as espy, What degree Of experience have you had, your self, in Ibis partici,* species of disorder ? In the coarse ose orris.* of forty years practice, 4 WW I area several instpOes of it •, mapy. Ilia any amendment ;treacly taken piacein the tonic of his Majesty's disorder, and dues lbc ao- PArance of bitch strensiment continne ii-presenf? There have taeep,fluelealioris ; 4ajesty ha's some. times Leen better. an 4 sot ietimes again he has been , nurse; there have been paeuaisms; there have been times whenle his been apparently going on well, mod then something suddenly has thrown him back; aincridnieitt.laaii certainly taken 'place, but then it has been transient, .and he has been a little tone Apia, awl then be has been better Ile i 3 much better euw than he was at several pe. dulls of the ditlease. W hit is the state of. his Majesty's disorder at Pilenl, as compared. with . plot it era;, when you Were etarnineci before the Ptlyr V . onneit ? I pc yr tip. but very littie . 4ittecegeo Isom *het it was at this time. Can yoik ascribe big Modesty's disorder tq any Parlicaor cause ?. I orideratiand that 1$ • qtqe ont from the anxi e ty 61 his laitidnpan the i Wes" of his daughter, the Princess Ainelia_.; bilis:ye there cap be no doubt of that : those Qintlemeti who were iv attendance upon her,' I believe, will satisfy the C " itt "° that subject;; but t twin their tern!, 1 have no doubt it originated (corn that derstand - tliatlitt;rte . was any relapse in the fir.,t ill. ness, tier in 1604. I believe, as far as can re. collect, Inking the whole together, that illness was shorter than that df the year 1,788 and 17814 even of the relapse, the'. Whhle of tliv 'attack was shorter, because in Ins the cern plaint commenced October, and we' did - not del elate the King well till the beginning of March. In 1801, ft - cOminenced in February; and rthial !file King was well before the end of May; slid tillai• includes the period errelipse. At the time you ceased to attend the King in 1801, Was there any declaration tpadc.that * he WAS completely recovered 2 . No declaration was thee made than he was .conipletely recovered. Ido not recolltsct what the last bulletin was hut I know (haft thought the King so Well, that I ',could take `my leave of him with propriety, mull dealt see. leg the King getting better, and ultritariding that be was soon going to Kcw , r thong i'that it would have a, good appeitratfo to the puldlc,lhat I had withdrawn ; that it iveeld be; confire4tiett ...to the public that the King was gettiqe Dud you esteem the King well - it this 1 e' you . withdrew, your attendanceupon 'I sli ld ra: (her think that I did think him' well at that tlinte; I thought him nearly so, - that I could very'. &Vitt " • You wished the pnbljc to pnderstand, from - your ! ladrawing from etteisdance, that the' King was siert! ? I wished so, because I thought so my MC But I du net ree•?lleet - tlie•piecise terms of 'the last ;but lain ; but lam fun that I never . signed ady.thitie . • •., • • that I did not think. The Comnintee ill to 'Understand, th4l tht. cqm. Act's recovery of the King is the' same as the`,pn• p)el.o rccbvery `any other persotint . die same dis order,. to be inirekted with au' thhrt ha,. to tratrilsce, whe th er FroWic or'pritofet ;1' e 1101: ' There *is no difference, ygor estimatiodi . ! ttreeit the recovery of the and that at any other person ? Nene, in my estiniStion. Is the present age of his Majesty likely more to' affect the dulatinn of his illness, than his age at thif respective perititle of his former attacks of this die ! ' order ? I can only 'answer that Tic-Mine by six t . ing, that age seems to have made very fey deprecla rl lions upon his Majesty. lie i 9 appireotty y9ntieey and sfrouger thin many persons much yotinger ship himself ; and therefore much better able to ttsist the effect of threise than aiveral per;ens younger • than himself would Lee. • • You will , .in your inswet;• comp are his Najesty, nut with other *inns,- hilt "with hinfaeq poet fto preiniutige, More ur Ira ? area the • p!9-• • 4, , .e ‘• '• • ' . - don of i teinporate antrtither a more sparing regi men, has been frequent,/ attended with success. What. do you mean by tbeititegrity of the King's mind, at the present tune? I mean, that his me. rrsory is entire, his perception is entire, and hint acuteness is considerable, which appears from every ppw and th'en a comment on any thing that is said. Ills judgment I have said was perverted, and that at present Ms discretion is asleep at times ; though every now and then there are gleams of • both, but they are transient. In detailing the present-stale of the King's mind ? -as to his memory, bia • perceptions, the aberrations of his judgment, and his loss of discretion ; is not that state of mind common to all persons labouring under the same infirmity,. or are they particular 'sytriptottiS belfinging to the Xing ? I donut know that I' ever saw exactly a case parallel to the ; the disease is ruoiliiied by his peculiar con. stitution, and perhaps in some measure by'his pec4. liar station. ' You ,nave Rentioned your expectation that the King will recover, and be able to-transact public bu. sincss again, but tisat•some vestiges of the complaint may remain; do you mean to sap that the reco. very will be, in your opinion, complete to the transaction of public business while vestiges of the Complaint remain? yes, I should have no doubt there might be times when his Majesty might be perfectly compatuat to' elm:) , thing ; and that now • sou then, a piffle huory t or something, might, frit a Wallop)! so 1004 ; of ri hog!, agitate him, but that it would all aubude again. I understand that was the case In his former mover* for a time; I did not learn it ceased; I - did not see the King in illnesses after ha had been declared quite *AI; I understood it did not lastAboee a month or two, or a few week, tbsft . r oaly spelh.from hearsay in this respect. 'Pipe, in fact, you coase4 to rut the sing in his 'Loper illoeste! after /kw was declopad pit* well In 1. z Calm. . ~ • When were ;no Sr at Celled in ? Oe dm 3 4 of NOtember. Who were the Physicians in attendance at the ti , re you were called in t :Pr, ifelierderi, Sit Peery Ilalfuril, and Dr. flaillie. * . Were they the • only • PliriCifit in aitOpdanCe.? 41 were. , . • -• . Was these any other con4dential fnecliCit! per. 824 in attendance at the ;owe time? Not it the Owe I went. • Who are the Physicians in eitsndalcalow ? ' I. additiou to those"Gentlemea awl myself ) Dr. 4eb. 14 %, . When was Dr. Robert Willis callediu? To . th e o est of my recollection, eu Toteday, the 4th of. November, its the c!ciiing. Is then any othj confidential s wedicil Perim bow in attendance besides the rhyckans ? Mr. °no de has , attended hip Majesty: Ms, BattbPomb i' hi , apothecary, and, of coarse •is theta ocessioo iiii ; but there is no Other Medical person. llaac you had oppnetunidei pf seeing the N.ing, 'ma time to Oust s since your attendance upon his , 1 , 1 4 jot . ) : 1 the year 178§t Yes ; 1 WI his Pa' Ivy iii his illness le the yet 1034 and altahlo Ai, - I •filai.,6 in the year 1504.. .• • '\ - • ° He r m "Ht.FOOO 49 0 0 1 44 4 44 Plajco7t _ -44:tti . :.~~, ;