The Statesman. — London, England, 1810-12-29 00:00:00

1 • I IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OP LORDS. FRIDAY, Dac. 28. STATE OF THE NATION. The Earl of I,IVERPOOI. moved the Order of the Diy for receiving th Report of the Committee of the whole House on the State of the Nation. On the question (or agreeing to the third, Lot! HOLLAND rose, in pursuance) to his mo. lion of iast night, to aiove again the Amendment he had bubmittcd to the Committee. On this occasion"! he would not trouble their Lordships with any ob. serva , ions, as the proLeetlingyould be merely pro forma, and for the purpoiti of enabling him regu. larly to r 'cord Hs opinion, and to enter his protest on the Journals. The Noble Lord then moved, with .1 view to the scope and object of his Amend: meta, that certain Acti should be read, which were those of 1:-Iiry VIII. Mary I. and Chit.les 11. re ferral to In his I,4rd:hip's speech' of last night. The titles of those Acts being read, the Noble Lord moved his Amendment on the third Rooks. Intion ; the prominent feature iu which was, to re. his Royal Highness the Prince of Wales to "k up on him the Administration of the Govern. went,all ac ts o f Itoy a lty, save what the exigencies or the public service shown re. quirtontil a Bill or Bills should have passed both Houses iirTarliament for the security, &e. of his M ajesty's Person,and providing for the re-assumption of his full Royal Authority, whenever 'it should please Divine Providence to restore to him his ca. pacity for the personal exercise of his Royal Au. thori:y, On the question being put— Lord IC,Rt;IiINE having been prevented by sud. den iudisposition from delivering his sontiments yes. tertlay, was anxious to state his opinion now, which he would do as shortly as possible. lie agreed that it was the right and duty of the two houses of Par_ diamout, of the LwAtes of the Realm, to supply the . . defect unhappily caused by the calamity which had fallen lion the Sovereign. He admitted that thu political rapacity of the King remained entire, and that *ha , they Fad now to do was to stiprly the means of cv.reising the King's Authority. Of the two modes proposed to effect this, namely, by 13111 or Address, he considered the latter decidedly pre feia oh; and the most view course. In proceeding by Bill, they would essume the Royal Authority, whilst by proceeding by Addres , ..thef would only confer it. It once the Great Seal was used by or. tier of the two Houses, he feared the effect of the precedent, Bad men might ac a future period make use of the precut:cot to destudy the Coustitu. Lion, by clothing themselves under. a similar tiction with the I;.iyal Authority. By resorting to the mode of Address, all inconvenience and danger would be avoided. Having first addressed the Prince of Wales to take upon him the Atlniiiiistra- Coda of thu Government, they might then t,:inler to. him fur his assent a Bill desiaratory of their inten tions, in constituting him Regent, and he putting the Great Seal to it, a constitutional regularity would eau preserv,i, and all incouveaienee and danger avoided. in the precedent which had beet' advert. ed to in the succession of Henry the Sixth, then an infant, the Duke of Gloucester first took upon MID the Adlniinisttatitauf the Government, and had the Great Semisielivered to him before the Parka.' silent adopted any Bill relative to the Regency.—. And there appeared in the Parliament Roll of that Session, an instance in which the Duke of Glouces. ter, as Regent, had given clisslnt to a Bill. By adopting the swum of Address, the wisbe,d.fur pur. pose would bet:fleeted in a simple and direct man ner ; the Regent, by putting the Great Scat to the Hill relative, to tha constitution of his Regency, would render the measure perfectly regular, :old consistent with Olt:Constitution ; but if once they &Parted from this plain and constitutional mode, and dileeted the Great Seal to be used of their own authority, the precedent might be used in future fur the must dangerous purposes. He was . therefore decidedly of opinion, that the mode by Address was that which, in every point of view, ought to be preferred. The question of Restriction he would not now argue, but was decidedly of opinion, that the Royal Authority ought to be maintained whole and entire. Thu Girl of DARNLEY followed, and warmly contended Cr the adoption of the mode of pro; cceding by Address in preference to the mode of a Bill, as recommended by Ministers. tie cen. sured the ilvla)s which had hitherto taken place, as tending to leave the Government of the country withuat its constitutional head. It would ho moth more wise, as well as more csnisistent with the chg. silty t ?ornament, to Collier the powers of Go vernment on the Royal Personage in trarstiott, in th e simple and direct way chalked out by the Amendment, than the tylious and circuitous mode of µmei: Aling by Bill. When expressing his sen. timents as hostile to a head of Governsaent so constituted as Ministers wished to propose, h e a p plied (as ..‘e understand the Noble F,arl) the well klit)lftl tines of Shaltiptrov,. to a Regal polyp. so cuubtitute4- 14 A vice of Kings I— #, A King of shivilaml patclie,„" dil• iP.. Lord EENYOS, uq tho ether side, argued in favour of the mode of proceeding by Bill, as the most c insistent:lnd constitirional way of appoint. ing tli• Royal Persunn;;e in question tu sthe tempo. :4,y head of the Governmeiit. His Lordship, who oxpres•-cd himself th‘oughiuit in a very low tone, ;adduced a I.li tviy of arguments in favour of his con clusion, As to the claim of right, us it was nut expressly urged, he vt told not enlarge upon it, but he thought it impossible suck a claim could be founded on the true principles of the Constitution. Hi! instanced, hypothetic. 44, a case occurring in the reign of Queen . Anne, when the then illustrious head of the House of Brunswick was declared by law the presumptive Heir to the Crown, could that Illustlious . Person chim a right to the I.e. gcncy, did a similar incapacity • exist with her Majesty, as now unhappily existed with the Deign. jog Sovereign? The LORI/ CHANCELLOR then put the pies_ fin; respecting Lord liulland'v Amendment, when • o-aliert con' - rsctran arose lactwi:en Earl Stanhope, , sb e N o w t and Learned Lord, any) Lord Holland, 'touching t h e welt correct duct V 4 riiiunnatnri way ' . , THE STA' , Of putting the question on's auction so amended, when the Noble Earl, in'the exercise of his critical powers, rather excited the risibility of their Lord shioc ; and the Noble Baron again stated his prin cipal object in the. coning forward was, with the view of recording his sentiments uu the Jour. ioala, The question was then pet, and the Amend.. anent WA* negatived without a division. The origi. nal Resolution was carried ; and the vote of their Lordships, adopting' the three Resolutions, was ordered to be communicated to the Commons, iu the usual anode of conference. Thu flow adjourned till Monday, wliets it is ex. pected the conference will take place. HOUSE tta.• COMMONS, DEcusitit IS. . The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated, that exit appeared to him to be unnecessary . for the House to meet to-morrow, the Report of the Upper House not being made, and soffit:legit op portunity existing for a conference with their Lord. ships before the commencement of business tut Mon day, he would move the adjournment of the House to Monday next. TIEIIVEY wished to know whether die • Resolutions which it was tuteno...l t o propose were to be in strict conformity of those of 1783. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHKQUEIt replied, that in substance the Resolutions which he should submit to the House would, resemble those of •1788. There would be a difference with respect to the limitation of the xestrictions, and the manage vaunt of the King's person. *He had already de. dared his intention of proposing that the restric tiOns should be limited to a twelvemonth, providing that the limitation should not expire. until meat had been sitting six weeks. This precise pe riod would not be stated in the Resolutions, which would contain rutty a declaration in general terms, that the restrictions should be limited in time, leay. iug the exact termination of them to be regulated by the sub:,eglient Bill. He had nearly omitted to add, that it was intended to propose an exception frum the restriction oo granting Peerages, as far as regarded any Naval ur Military Officer, who by his' achievements might . betionie entitled to the hunour. able distinction of a seat in the Upper House of Par..! liament. Mr. ADAM as , ked if the regulations respecting his Majesty's household were to be the same As tiltObe io 17S8. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. answered in the affirmative ; with the exception of the introduction into the Resulutiou on that subject of a limitation of the restriction. Adjourned to Monday. , LIST"OF THE •.11ISORITY IN THE HOUSE OF PEERS ON THURSDAY NIGHT. DUKES. Ilchester King York Dotiouglimore II titcltin , on Clare:lee Esser (.‘‘ ydir Cumberland Albemarle Stowell Si43,C , C Roslyn P .teoni!ly (E. of Bee- Cambridge Coventry bor al l ot) - tiloure der Loran CIV:,no (li. I).treley) Norfitl4. E. M. Chartroom( Dutton 01. of Lluug- Sitalt.r.rt (:oolotoistleley lo , ) Bedford Si-artitirougo Sa% and S:..tie scaIIQUISSCS. Coo/ per Upper 0.40ry iVinehester Peterborough Mendip (V. Clifden) Lawilowu Wald”;rave . Grantley Stittford vim:Amnion. K•lth 111-nford ficrefiwt • Da wnsy (V. Dotene) Heat fort llam ptleo St: Juan EA a Li. Lskei Ponsonny of lanokilly Stanhope ISIRON3. Butler ( I:. of Orotund) Spencer Holland Carysfort Curlete • Boyle (E. of Cork) Granard . Ahergavenny Lauderdole Hooke St. Vincent I lao ingi (E. Mira) Foley • Suffolk Lilfard Alvattley Jersey A ilsa ( h:. of Cassillis)rburlow Ttionet Dundus Sea forth Fitzir illinm Erskine !feat Wield Tnokerville Yurtotrongh Alail; Air. - Due. 2 0 0 U U ote srochs AI , oN cit.LuCK per Cent. lied. 65ji 1 zt per Cent. Cllll4. ,but. THE STATFISMA.N. LONDON: SATURDAY, DECEMBER 29, 1810. STATE OF-HIS MAJESTY'S HEALTH. " Windsor Castle, Dec. 'l9 64 His MAJESTY has passed a guqd night, a►►d euntinuLs as well as he was yesterday:" " 11, R. RLYN01.1).5,. • " II ALFORD. " IY . III:BI;ROLN. '• M. 11A11.1.11-:. 86 It. IVILI.IS." We this day received American Papers, fronH which wp make the following Extracts.—lt would appear that the paragraph stating the arrival, at Liverpool, of, the I ESI DI:NT'S message is not founded : " NEW-YORK, Dee. 4. " A letter from our Correspondent at Washington, dated last Tioirmlay evenio:, sa s s Owing to bad roads, neither Cien. VA It St.'St s the Speaker of the House of Reprelentativei, nit many of the Members have yet arrived; and lam satisfied there will be no House nn Monday, so that you need now look for the Presideot's Mes• sage to be delitered before Wednesday." . ---Mercautik Adver tiser. " NEW-YORK. Dcc. 1. The following extract of a letter is froth a gentleman of the first respectability at Washington, Mississippi territory, to his friend in the city of Washington, bearing date Oct. 34, 1810. t The situation of Florida most certainly claims the earliest possible attention of our Government, for unless they. are adopted into our family of Governments, there is much room to fear that one of the great Belligerents of Europe u ill attempt Lying violent hands Nom these. Provinces, to the incalculable injury of the United States--:indeed, I verily be lieve there is a strong party in that Country in favour of its pupilage to Great Britain; yet I am persuaded such a measure , could not be effected, without w noble. and manly strum: by every real American within the Province„ aged by hpe dreds withoo,"—i4ere.qatik Aloertirer.) • - The following is an extract of a letter from an other Gent!entail. of Washington, of the Misses. sippi Territory, of the 1141110 date : " Ere this coolie received, you will have heard of Colonel GOTtsozolf baring been mat on command to the Floridisf , ine of demarcation. This measure was adopted in pursuance of a rewlisitioa from Governor liot.sacs, who apprehended that the throe; and convulsions of . the Floridians ►truggling fur their long lo►t liberty; might reach our peaceful borders and disturb the tranquillity and neutrality of our territorial citi zens. or that the dame of civil discord, which seemed to be kindling among our neighbours, might blow over the Line and disturb the peaceful occupations of our citizens: lent at' pre scnt the storm seems to have gone by. nod Col. COYIXWON had removed his command from the Lioe•int" qUarters at Fort • .ttlattis, when he was called to supersede Cul. Cusut4.7 io lit. command of the department here." We arc proud that this Paper was the 6rs't, to hail the dawn of hope which has lately and suddenly broken in upon this country.' As deeply as we haie felt the successive ills that have afflicted the country, as sedulously as eve have watched their progress, and proclaimed its extent to an injured People, still we never forgot that the principle ,of safety, and of retnn► to builder days, remaiudd with the country. While we endeavoured to rouse it to , feeling, we' r►.tueutly held out the hope of a revival of ENG. 1 LAND'S former worth, and with it a revival of her true grandeur. We call upon• our Readers to wit ness this • fur us ; and we call upon them to say—if already the triumph is nut in part ours ? The pro ceedings in the. Lords of Thu rsday, , are evidence to this point,. and glorious evidence too! Ministers, with a Majority of twebty.six, which, when it comes to be dissented, is no Majority in fact, can scarcely bring one Estate of the Realm to ac. cord with what they. may be enabled to carry througlt the other; and then what are the Estates to do, unless, mutually forsaking a crude and med. ly set of men, they return to reason, and place forthwith the sceptre of this Empire, eiscontrouled, in the only hands legally qtialilied to . wield it ? It is not very nalikely, that Ministers may bo deserted in their next move in the Upper Muse. It is to be re. membered, that my Lord GKEN viLLs and his friends ♦oted with Ministers on the question . of BILL or ADDUE:S. But if they had not, how very small would have been the Majority of Thursday ? And it is well known that Lord Gags:m.l:e did not vote with Ministers, because he is their advocate, or is willing to he their Coadjutor, but because he was either convinced of the propriety of the pre. liminari measure of a Bill, or was,. unwilling to submit to the disrepute attending the charac. to or inconsistency.. The Majority of Thursday, therefore, can scarcely ,be deemed a majority. But, •if my Lord GatENviLLE, seeing the da►igers to the Constitution he professes to love, will nut support the RE;TItte;ICINS, then it will scarcely be surpriz ing if Ministers are left in an actual Minogity, in their next step. But thair difficulties and fears do not'arise from' this quarter only. Among those who support tholn, that is, Ware supported them while power was rcith them, are some, and not a few ) of that temper and complexion which lea, • the fallen house, whenever the rafters begin to g ive way. The •knowledge of this fatal fact dismays Ministers more than all other things, because it is of a nature and character with which they are most intimately acquainted. They know wl►at is in their own hearts ) anti thence learn to anticipate the move. mots of men founding their actions on like princi. pies. They do anticipate their fall ; and now only try for one more triumph, en'd one poor triumph, the placing of theExecutiveA nthorityin general shackles, since Mey can no longer dirczt its operatious.— Well! all this is matter of exultation to the country ; and we, once more hail its friends upon the event !—With respect to the question of Restrictions, the argn. meets so ably urged in both Houses against the monstrous idea cannot be aided, and need no support. Those of his It yal Highness the Duke of Sussex were, if they stood singly, com plete and unanswerable. They • combined the wh o le bearings of the. question ; they illestriited the subject, and they came to the only proper con clusion ; while they exhibited in the speaker a re gard for his King•and father, worthy of a son and subject, and a love for the Corunitution and corn: prehension of it, that would Flo honor to the best in. formed and' moat upright -Eitglishaten. There - were other Noble Peers who deserve our especial praise, but we have not opportunity for it, and shall again fled them at their honourable posts.—Meaniiine, what arc we to say to my Lord GKF.NVILLE, and !o the absent Lord 'GREY ? As to the latter, we do fear that the taint of ambition has deadened his virtue. We cannot otherwise account for his condeet... whets other men were opening their eyes, he was shutting his. But he was never deemed short sighted,though never very enlarged nor elevated in his. tone and temper.. How is all this', then ? To desert the country its an argument which he ostentatiously held to chew his desertion ! Atvl to absent himself, ►wen every honest man's pride should have taught him to be present ? Wu must leave all this to hi s • Lordship himself-3e may yet develope the whole wore to bii advantage, thsn, at least, it stands at present.—As to my Lord Gnettvil.t.E,• he is on the verge of hislate ; and a despised ono it will be , if be do not skrifik hack, and retrace his steps in time ! Bois g►►ing too far in search of oansistenc►j, mina lie should ,persevere in the path of amend. meat, into which he had gotten, and in which !what! ~E ; . proceeded aqittle way ! We recommend to hi s Lordship to pause now' he has qualities to make STATESMAN ; tied Why mill he marr them, and make al c lo a t pi ti er s ; o t uoiro ug himself aCoun TI ra and a Ley ta of PLAccs an t i E sse. LUMENTS? Shortly, to all who.nuw seek place,w o ft. comniend the coming with clean bands. The En g li s h . man whn has wantonly shed the blood of England_ sliallnever wail' his foul stains away ; b ut he whoh is simply diKlaiming gone no further in guilt than to tinge himself sith removingoto Isis bsitiacin)plunder....to the Mks t h e dye of lucre, while in the plunder of the public purse, "soy yet ho acceptable to the country, if he will come with clean hands ; a n d t h e m ht s find u ' nbargained fur. German Papers, Extracts it be s ace have thiseeti seen—that —dtahyg aoi frayt: n in NAPOI.EOI4 9 S warfare, against colonial produce h av e recently taken place at Hamburgli and Wi tt German cities, throughout the kingdom of Ha m ria l and in Switzer.land.—rAn article respectingAint., ries, also inserted this day;is worthy of some notice. NA rota:014 1 it is probable, will conciliate the Unit e d Sates. Some of our politicians, however, think other. wise. Whatever he may du, every sound Statesman knows what ought to have been (he policy of England in this respect; and all the world knows what would best have belonged td its true dignity and honour. Had there been a guardian spirit hovering over our Councils, it would hive whispered CONCILIATION WITH AMERICA ! Willi twat, your PROSPERITY will gradually return ; without that, ruin will lay waste the few manufacturing town, that have, till lately, slag held up their heath with courage, most poorly requited by y o u! Such would hare been the voice of any good I spirit, presiding over the Councils of this on. happy Country. But, there was none such; and here the Conutiy is , with ruin overspreading sue. cessively• the few towns that have not till now felt all the shock of the storm ! letter s , received this morning hum Nottingliatn hat 1 . / 14 fo;:lowing passage, which We give with the Dora regret, as we know that towis to deserve a to. ter fate, from the eminent industry and ingeasity o f its inhabitants, accompanied by a gcneralivoila of character equally distinguished : " 'Crude is very bad at Nottingham. Never was so bad 41 at present. Several linwe have u u their goods, t!w were :wit:line, 'tat in Americo, in ctinsequenceof the Sala' iven by Miti'qui . NrELLESLEY 10 the American Merchant s tA. twat 6L11141 » ill be the consequeace with to at Nmtiogltaa." We have given a L'st of the Minority in the Lords on Thursday. It will be seen, that all the Kowa L DUKES are in that distinguishes] List. Thursday morning the QuEEN tool Princess ELI. ZAIIETH took an airiog to Frugmure, and Princesses AUGUSTA and SewMa, with their usual atteudants • rode on horseback in Windsor Park. Lord BURollattsH arrived on Wednesday last from Lisbon, and, according to report, was en. trusted by Lord WELLINGTON with confidential communications - as to the distressing situation in . which his army was placed ; not merely by the lung coutinuance of westerly winds, which had deprived . them of all succours from England, but by the pis.. Sidon; of the enemy, which made it a certainty that no military eperations would occur fur a ruin. ous length of b10c... We have reason to believe,. that Lord WELLINGTON is convinced of the uttet impracticability of the object of his expedition. Captain MANNEnS SUTTON is arrived from Lis. bon, which place he left on the 13th best. At the i.time of Isis departure nothing of importance had occurred. , On the 9th instant, Lord Wst.ttaovu4 was privitely at Lisbon. A private letter from Spain, states Tarragona to have capitulated. The date of this surrender is not mentioned,. but the latest accounts from that place in the Cadiz Papers arc dated the 3d ultimo. From Buenos Ayris soincletters were-yesterday delivered,. dated the 2Gth September. They con. taut the important information that Chili; Liao, and their ,dependencies, had formed Juntas oa the plait of the itevoltationists, and had disciahucti sol connection with the Regency of Old Spain. Let ters were also received from Caraceasolated the beginning of last month, representing that settle. meat to be in a state of total disorgasisstien end anarchy. Erma, late Governor of Monte Video, is opposisted . to. the Viceroyalty of Bum& Ayrei as successor to the deposed Cismetos. This nutni nation of an 011icer notoriously hostile to the new order of things, is by no means calculated to ap. pease the general di,content, and will probably out/ accelerate the piogress of the-revolution. The occottats given of the poverty of tho Members of the Curies has given the Candhlates fur sinecures, and other good things, a shucking Idol of the trade of a Legislator in Spain. . When that very wise Lord, the Earl of Ursa. roux., said, that an Act or Commission having-the •Great Seal annexed to it could nut •be questioned in the Courts below, he forgot, perhaps, or per. haps rte might not know, the important Statutes of EDWARD 111. C. 8 and 11. RICHARD U. C. 10. in which it is enacted, that no commands or letters shall be sent under the Great Seal, or the Little • Seal, the Signet or Privy Seal, in disturbance of the . law, or to disturb or delay common tight ; and though sit eh commandments sisoulti come, the MO shall not cease to do right, which is also made part of their oath by Statute. —114,18 Jilackslont) vol. 1. p. 142. • es: As the Duke of Nostiorx was ileieentling the se ... • cond flight' , of steps from the IfiWase of Peers on Thursday night, his Grace s lipped, and fell-with ranch violence, but fortunately received nu material injury,. although.hc was unable to rise without as. sistauca Mr. RYpeti, slid Mr. ROBERT DuNDAN 1 " 4 : visitors .at Windsoc.Castle on Thursday morniiig, fur salon (lisle ) and afturwards returned to Landon. 7. - P, :I Pr - r