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, , v ~.., agreed to witbout his knowledi.• :toed* Iriend (Auckland) had six motilpseete/Agse 04 e e 1"11 production of papers. The na poubandi N T on the Noble Lords oppos ite to prosletbat „era in Council had been beneficial. After some conversation, relative** llsenho of= putting motions,' Eart•Sessitore said, it wee the custtmlisee the Noble anaLearned Lord (Eldon) to put AM or »ix inotionstmgether, by way of u parenthesis. Lord AUCKLAND motion was agreed to unani mously. INDICTMENT BILL• Upon the motion for the third Modiog of this Earl ST ANIIOPE proposed, that the Order of the Day rbonld be discharged, and some other day ap pointed for the third reading. Lord HoLLAN Is, after some general observations upon the nature of the bill, supported the motion of Ins Noble Friend (Statillope). Lot I ELlA:Newtown' *gait" insisted, us he bad due upon a former occasion, that the principle of this Bill was misunderstood, and misrepresented. lie considered the opposition to it no b et t er than a tub thrown out for the purpose of catching popitlar applause. Neither could he avoid observ nig. that he, as Chief Justice of the King's Bench, was entitled to some degree of respect. but he had been grossly calumniated by an individual of that House, having compered him to those monsters, who, in former reigns, had disgraced the Bench of Justice, such as Seroggs, Jefferys, &c. Hat he should treat the caluiney and the calumniator with contempt. On a former occasion he had been blamed for his taciturnity, for elan+ lie would not apologi,e to that individual, but he would explain the reason to that House. Earl STAN 1110 Tell motion was negatived without a division. The Earl of Moue, Lord HOLLAND. and Lord Essence, very ably opposed the third readin h ut , fur want of room, we are precluded twin giii the substance of their arguments. The Loan CIIA NCAILLOU and Lord EI.I•ENIth 1011141 contended, that there was no infringement of the law or the laud. It was a/estimates renvoliura. And might be very useful in times of tumult and Confusion. fart STANHOPE disavowed any intention, on his part, to lunette the smallest disrespect to the Noble mid Learited Lord (Ellenborough) ; he had said. and 1:e had a right to say, that such monsters and villain, as Scroggs and Jetierys had filltd the of fiee of Judges; but it WAS impossible for him to have fontid any resemblance between them and the Nriblevied-Learned Lard ; and if that Noble and I.eartied Lord felt any resemblance, it ars more than :lay other Noble Lord was disposed to do in that The rash misconception and precipi tancy which had been applied to what bad fallen from Imiiself. convinced his mind that it might be improper to delegate the power proposed by that Bill, even to that Noble and Learned Lord. His c om.-Istlrd a very saaegetie speech ogaiust the Bill passing into a law. After sense further conversation respecting the former speech of Earl STAN twee.iii which his Lard ship and Lord I IoLLAN n contended that Lord EL LEWSWIOUGH misunderstood what had been said iu debate, The Bill wag read a third time and passed. The 'filth Clery. lkiidetice 8.11 passed through a Committee, without atneuthneut, mud was re- parted. The Irish Glebe-hone Bill lased through a Committee. several atueudiuctits were o h m 01 to, autl were reported. The "louse derided the Scotch Appeal Cause, the Duke of Hamilton v. Scott, rests cting Tehuls. whom the judgment of OK Court below was dinn ed a ithout costs.,—Adjourned. Cifed in Ire cud, and that , hr' believed Government lent ground to ordei their iniprisenineent. EILIDMI.said, that at present he oily intended that the ions should be us the Table, bet on a finery day he intended to bring (onward a prop ,-ition, when the Honourable Secretary would hare au opportunity of melting his phi...c lime; but trout what he knew Mane subject, he believed it to be an nun invented act. Sir ARTIIIVIL WILLI.I.SLET said, be was not in Ireland at the time, nor did he belting to the Irish GOSerlitUetit, us o hie% account be was ignorant of their imprisonment. Mi. SUEUIDAN then presented a similar petition from Mr. Thulium Ridgway, au English merchant, who was cue fined in the gaul of Kilmainlisur ' in Ireland Wetnd also a pe tition from a Mr. Henry Hughes, setting that he WAS at present confined in the 31arshalat a, iu l)ubliu, owing to the great limes be bad sustained by his imprisonment. They were eternally read, and oird-resl to lie on the table. 011 the inut , ou of Mr. Htentsson, the Home rewire , ' itself into a Committee un the Land-Tax Commissioners' Bill, went thrintzh the serenil Clauses is About any Amend ment, and the Chairman reported. Mr. WHARTON brought up the report of the Committee on the Stock Annuity Bill, which was read, and the several Amendments agreed to. The Committee on the Orders of Council was postponed till to-morrow. 14r. Paltrier's Per Centsge Bill was read a first and se cond time, and uedcred to he committed on Friday next. Mr. Ross said, be should very shortly call the attention of the Hone to the Report of the Military 31cdical Inquiry— lis wished that the persons engaged in that Inquiry had made some inquiry at the Treasury , is speeting the Surgeon (general, before they mink their report. He did ant intend to mate any complaint of theist, but be must regret that it bad mit occurred to them that the inquiry would be neces sary. ALTERATION OF THE CRIMINAL LAW. Sir SAMUEL RUNWAY moved the order of the day for the find reading of the Bill repealing an Act making privately 'dealing a ealatal otfenee. On the que s tion 'xi% put for the i•econti read- lug. Mr. YORKE said, he disippmeed -of the Bill al together, and begged the lion. and Learned Mover would not press the second reading on that day. Sir SAMOCL ROMILLY observed, elat e although he understood some Clentleinen were opposed to the principle of the Bill, he did nut c.inceive they would have bad any objectioti to going into a Committ ee on it. as that would be the most proper place todis- cats its merits. ThefiosictToi-Grwcast• swirl. he (lid not ap prove of the Bill, but be had no objection to its be ing committed. • The Bill was then read a second time, and or dered to be refund to a Co kkkkkk ittce of the whole House onTbursday next. SMALL-PDX PREVENTION Bit.!.. Mr. PuLLas rose, and submitted hi, motion, relative to the prevention of the spreading of the small-pox infection. He took a brief view of the various improprieties that had lout; existed, as to the management of persons troubled with that dreadful malady. It hail formed) been ascertained, that in forty-two years the average number of per sons who died of that disease outmoded to seventy two thousand, which hint gradually increased amongst the middling classes of mankind, to the amount of oue-fourth more. This was an evil of the worst possible nature, sad its maps had been PO grea t, th at lw lisul been thus ittiliired to come forward to propose some steps to get OR or His was out to oppose the measure of vac cination, which, although it was a preventive against the small-pox, he did not mean to impose upon mankind, but merely to endeavour to pre vent the spreading of that dreadful infection. The Hon. Gentleman then proceeded to ullittle to the particular provisions he iuteniled to introduce lute his Bill, one of which was, that the persons setting up houses fur the purpose of aecominodating those troubled with that disease, should do so at the dis tance of three miles from any city ; another, that such persons shall be taken proper care of by the parish to which they beloug, under a peualty, winch, when levied, shall be applied towards the relief of those so alit:Led. Tins penalty should be exacted two months after the infection luta beets brought into any town or populous place. The Bill lie should move fur, lie proposed should be left for discussion till next )trar, in order that per soils, conversant in such matters, medical gentlemen in particular, should have an opportunity of con sidering and suggesting what were the best memos to °limits the objects in view, and to exterminate the small-pox infection entirely from owing- , t so ciety. He tlwn concluded with moving, •• That leave he given to bring in a Bill to prevent the spreading of the infection of the atnall-pox." Mr. ROSE cermet' his approhntion of the mea sure proposed, and gave notice it was his in tention, on Thnrsday next, to move cot leave to bring in a bill to facilitate the practice and adop tion of Vaccine Inoculation. DIRECTORN OF THE 11.1NR OF IRELAND. Sir JOHN NEI% rote ruse, in pn rmance of his notice. and stated, that lie felt I • st•lf in a degree eusbarassascl, as to the tootle in which he should introduce the subject of his intemled motion. lie was entirely at a loss to know upon what principles it could be opposed, or upon what ground, it could be argued, that it was improper to leave to the management of the Bank Proprietors the election of such Directors, as they, in their corporate capa city, should think eligible. One was naturally led to imagine. that amongst all the variety of re,.tric tions to which the Bight Honourable Gentlemen opposite were disposed to impose upon Catholics, on account of their religion, they would be left at least at full liberty in reg tril to their commercial operations. lle was inclined to believe, from all he had heard upon the late discussious, that such restrictions could have nothing to do with what be was about to propose, and had no reftrence whatever to the commercial transactions of the Roman Catholics; the more est:et:tally its it would be perfectly obvious that the appointineut of the Directors of a Banking Company mild hare uo reference to political matters, but merely relate to the direction of their commercial concerns. it could not purely be argued, that the proprietors of the stock of a commercial cornimay should think it incitmlrent upon them to inquire into the religious principles of any person whom they might think fit to appoint to the situation of Director. — It was not surely their duty to inquire under what form, restriction, or regulation, he chose to accept of the t.A..e, or hitt, the manlier in which be might chose to intepret some partienlar pas.atges in the Scriptures. A: ks,t this had hewn the doctrine maintained in (very comitry except ; for it was well k n own that I ,ersms of all rrhizionl were ',sewheet: • n•,li and Ms. bt 11 111 II til: Cl nagement in commercial incorporated bodies, pros tiding the interest they posseeeed in such commer cial companies entitled them to election. He be lieved that in no nation upon the Continent could it be asserted, that ever a inaii's religion was in quired into, upon electiug him as a Direc tor of a Commercial Company. The first as in 17 8 A tat was pessed. as to the bank of Ireland, w 2, and in that Act it would be fouud that no provision had been introduced, as to the religion of the Directors ; but in the Charter which after wards followed, clauses were inserted, applying to the Governors and Directors of that company all those restrictions and regulations which were then thought proper to be adopted in respect to offices connected with the state. In 1733, when the Le gislature thought proper to relax, in a considerable degree, those regulatious that had been so provided, except such as regarded a certain numlier of speci tied offices, he believed that the Noble Lord who was principal Secretary to the Lord Lieutenant did state to several Gentlemen of considerable milt' and respectability. belonging to the Catholic persuasion, who applie'd to him upon the subject,. that it was meant they should be rendered admis sible to the Government and Direction of the Bank of Ireland. Ile had only to refer to the Act itself, in order to show that this was the original in tention of the Legislature. lit section b 7 of that Act, it was stated that Catholics should enjoy ' all places, or hold any offices of trust; in any body corporate. except that of Trinity College. One should hardly suppose that a statute so worded could go to remove their privileges tor admissibility into the direction now alluded to. Since that tune a case had been made out, and laid bi•fore various Counsel for their opinions upon this particular I • point, and they varied from one another ; one held that the statute did take away the restrictions imposed upon them is their Charter, and others that it did not. This was in consequence of the word Charter in the act ; the words being, .• aux statute or bye-law notwithstanding.". Now this V/A4 rot a statute or bye-law but a Charter.. And it Mast he' obvious, that where a Charter was granted, tiled' took away certaiu privileges bestowed by a prep ions act, • 'fair equivalent might to be givers to three upon whom the deprivations fell, so that• they should not he put in a worse sitaation this any other persons or proprietors of that company, he their religion what it may. Oar what principles then could that right of carrying on the bunking business be taken from the Roman Cutholies, while Government gave them nothing in the room of it ? He could not see any reason for it. lie was Unlined to suppose, that upon the question being fairly brought before the Legislature, unless it could be argued that any ground was laid for depriving them of ouch privileges, they would see the propriety of restoring to the Catholics those immunities which they had a right to enjoy, before that Company was made a Charter Company. He could Rot foresee the nature of the objections that could be stated against what he was to propose on this occasion, and therefore he thought himself obliged merely to surmise theta. It might be thiessog.tirst brought before the 11. - girlie ore! for thisreasorethat the only renewal or the Bank Charter was in 1791. and subsequently tot hat the .liet of 1793 imposed thew disabilities, and this was the first opportunity that had since occurred of bringing it under the review of the Legislature. If the Legislature, for good reasons stated, wished to continue these deprivations upon the Roman Catholic*, he thought they were bound in honour to make them some compensation. It had beets the most anxious wish of the wisest Statesmen to induce that description of people to vest their mo ney in Charter Companies, or in the public funds, foc.the purpose of 'ting them more closely to the State, and increasing their patriotism and ar dour for the count ' s defence. if there were any disaffection allege d to exist amongst the body of Catholics in Ireland, he should think it was still the policy of sound Statesmen to perse vere in those ;principles, to connect them us closely as possible with the monied interest of the State, the more effectually to encourage them to be supporters of the Constitution of their country. Such, he might state, was the conduct of Sir Robert NValeole and the other States men of his day : they permitted and en • couraged the -Carnal les to hest their money in the Charter Companies and funds of the coun try. Although Government still thought proper to exclude them from certain offices couneeled with the state. he should wish to knee on what prin. t•iples they could defend the excluding them from such commercial intercourse. If it were to he con tended that the bank was connected with the state, it was contrary to the original intention of the Le gislature so to connect it. It might lie, perhaps, objected, that the admission ef the Catholics to such s . anweutinerits sus not desirable by the bank proprietors themselves; hat to tlsis he might an swer. that he was coutiruitsl the-contrary was the opinion of the most respectable of the proprietors. They had hitherto feared themselves tit these religious topics, and felt tender grounds in proposing such new regulations in their money ar rangements ; but he was sure they considered it their interest to throw open the door, and to make every man eligible for a direction. Was it just or reasoaable, that although a Boman Catholie should be a proprietor in the Bank Stock. to the amount of fifty thoutnell pounds, he should be precluded from directorship, or that the other proprietors should he prevented from eleetiog him to that office, hoo ever anxious they might be to enjoy the high benefits of his talents sud 'autho rity. This was u question which now stood upon broad principles, as he was only proposing to the Home to carry into effect, teat which the l'utholies have a right to enjoy, by the existing law of 1793. The Noose had no application from any quarter praying them to adopt contrary measure.—they heti uo corporate body complaining because Ca tholics were allowed to lire in the same place with them, nor had they any applicatiou, such as theist of former times, when a corporate body com plained to the Irish Parliament that certain 'Ro man Catholics were permitted to carry coals. The Irish Parliament then submitted to a committee, to consider the grievance complained of, which was,' that a Milli of the name of Darby O'Ryan, a Ro man Catholic priest was permitted to carry coals. Here Mr. Foster asked across the table at what time this took place ? It was, cuutiuued the [Jo- nonrable Baronet, in 1696, when it wrs referred to a Committee of grievances to report themiu, and the House of Commons took it up in .702, and iu 1704 a Petition was presented by the Catho lics, whose residence amongst the Protestants had been objected to, and which Petition was rejected by the Irish Parliament, who would not allow them to live where they wished. The House bad not acw, however, any thing like this to combat with, in their decision upon this business. It stood upon the bare principle, that the Bank Proprietors should have the aid Of any of their 'lumber in the direction and management of their stock, as they themselves did not think it necessary to inquire whether the person, the object of their choice, he willing to take the oath of supremacy? The Right Honourable Baronet then conclitined, with moving, " That it is the opinion of this }louse, that persons profess- Mg the Roman Catholic Religion ought to be eli gible to the offices of Governor, Deputy Governor, or Directors of the Bank of Indeed, if otherwise qualified in respect to property." Upon this motion being proposed from *Chair, Mr. Foiert i a said, that from was very different Cote what he had expected. When the Proprietorsof the Irish Bank applied for a Charter, • their object ass, to have one perfectly similar to that of Great Bri tain. in which the same clause was inserted, that no person whatever of the Catholic persuasion should be-permitted to eajoy any . direction in their com mercial transactions.. There wgs no intention in timated of framing any thing new, but merely a wish expressed to put the one bank upon the same footing with the other. On what grounds, then, did the Right Hon. Gentleman require the Reuse to snake any alteration in that charter, contrary to the principles upon which it was originally green. It had been granted in "the reigu of}ring VVilliuto, and it did nut stem to Ix. advegie4 to, that there had been eight. nine. or te' als of it, and at of them exact truusetiptserf • er of the Donk of England. After t .aenften spun the House to renew this fierier, iii exact e ntity with their original request; he should wish to knoeoushut grounds theHna-r'de.uhf pow stepre nod chuage that Charter, a bleb the Irish (lank Pre prelims bud %% lolled should be similar to the English one? Asto the quotation which the lit: Hon. Barrow t had made from the Irish Journals, he (Mr. 1'1:c/et; had called for the date of them, confident that such thing us therein stated lied taken place sloe.: theexisteuee of the Popish Laws regarding helms!, and he was, therefore, at a loss to know why such instances should be brought forward to iaffnence the present debate, or to erode imaginary griei slices,' or dissatisfaction, by bringing fctrwaid cow plaiuts which were keg since pessed,aed redressed. With respect to the present renewal of the Charter in question, he neither inciint to . propose eacheheg nor permitting Catholics to have a share in the direction, but merely to move for the said Chartcr as formerly, thereby leaving them to enjoy the mole prisileges they had before, the more especiail.: as the opinions of:Lawyers bad differed upon vie constructiou of the Act. It beim, therefore un necessary to enter further into the ilecussion, ulna the subject; he should more. a ' trial the other cedes of the 4sse be now res 4." Mr. WI": DH said. that if the former renewals of this Chaster, in its original form. had risen Irons mere inadvertency, the Right Hen. Gentleness opposite could not he justided is prepising a continuance of that exclusion it contained. alas the impropriety of it wits thus puinted out to lem. If there were no reasons for erestinnisigthe prohibi tion. it aught lust to be colyinuethe is it was a spi cier of the same violence , as thin which had beta alluded to of eseladisig men from towns in var tichlar trades, which. had been formerly done oa principles, upoinaahieh the understanding of the country had heels lung since chunged, and which • had been long since abrogated and exploded. The question was loudly called for, sad strange' were about to withdraw. when • The CIRANCEI.I.OII of the EXCREQURR rosimirsl stated, that be had no grounds for snaking initi ations upon the law as it at present stool. lie saw no occasion for the Right Hon. Baronet alluding to the proceeditigs of the Irish House of Commoni, which at this period must be ackles hedged to have hewn most severe egaiiist the hid' Catholics. Although the House could hair le mimeo or ground to alter, by a legislative the Charter as it already stood, yet it would be perfectly competent for the Right Hon. Barrier:, at shy tune, to propose a clause abet itig the nal Act, upon which there had heels so many relent opinions. His view of the 'subject was, V.dt the granting of the Charter, ai it at •Ireseut sued, could not in any degree prejudice the case of tie Irish Catholics, since the law itself had teen. , " dfferently construed, by different lawyers. If at any future period the matter should he broueht before Parliament, to alter or expiate' the art itsei. they might do so by prescribing another forte nath to be taken by persons of the Catlisih: persistence'. Ile could ant, hou et er, aeree the Right lion. Baronet. that tLis was a raw purely cowmen 'sat ; tbr in many instance* it 'male occur. that the Bank was ISOlailany connect, with the Government of the country : as, for it, stance, in tho-e eases where the Bank au. reqie by Goverument to advance money. Pelham .! were left with Lu st as much power to conzi,.:, the Bank, as i this Charter were not at a 4; be renewed. Mr. MARTIN said. he TRTAI2t.i,e.I the I, , nie:li!!' -1 the Right Honourable Gentleman, when he o.a:. that it was not his intention to leave the Cathc'-' in a worse situation than they really acre. It congratulated the country upon the Chancellor: , the Eschequer's great moderation in hi, thus elating his intention to enact the penal code age.. them. He was extremely pleaeed to hear Right Honourable Gentleman express Ins fee— , and seutimeets of inAigtoitiott, at the ;:a5.a;. , .. • severity or tie Irish Podium. in, *hicks I.ud oci red against the Cetiodics npwartio of a band Years ago. ii Alluded to taw Limerick &seise and be be , Ntil r., rensik. that, wha-t the lit! Hnnuurubk Chancellor of the Exchequer. Pfefte.. l ..,hliorr-nice of inch ....tenth-% he .Its. take care lest ! ,,, , ..e!ity should perhaps 01511' to same criwein.inn, and elrrc.s. Ali equal eld..ocri at our conduct at the pre sent des'. I ic W A.* an .:r , ument more fillat",ons than T.. t,erusist Bank 4.1t35t,•- aved al. a u• 1 , 11!A ,Plitrarr, Ur MOUSE OF COMMONS. The Chairman of the Downpatrick C immittee reported that Mr Corker, the sitting Nicauber t was dish elected, but that the petit' was neither frivolous nor vc sat ions. Mr. C it. presented u Petition from the Freeholders of the county ut Renfrew, against the measure foe the prohi tion of the usa of grain in the distilleries, which was read, and ordered to he on the table. Mr Roar owed, " That there be laid before the Roues oopiesof all proceedings of the Lords Commissioners of the Treasury, from the tit of December, 1796, to the Mot of Augost 1799, respecting the payments made to His Ma jesty's Apothecary-General , fur medicines and surgical is strurocuts, fee the use of His tajest)'s arrwi "--.Ortlrred. The House west into a Committee on the British Ships Bill —Report to he received to morrow. Mr. Rose gave notice, that on Wrdnesoln% next he mold submit a motion to the Host., relative to the trade wtth Amteics The Compensation Acquittal Rill ors read a tie.* time, and endives! to he read a *mood time on Frolay nest The lush Fees of APSirr Sill was ad thod time, passed, and ordered to be sent to the Lo r d ds Mr. M'Lgon presented • petition from the Fly. holders of the roomy ;.f fromarty, in Scotland, ileums the wr amore for prohibiting the use of Coen iu the Ilrenikur s. Mr W MOTU( .11 (awe notice, that he woold, as Wednesday fwd. foe leave to hring in a Bill fur die better moire tom of the l)?1 , 4 es Fishery in the river Medway, attloat- ham. Sir ARTI4t R WP1.T.1[91.1% Ivrtniell up the Rzeirt of the Committee Jprointed to jaguar into the state liol)head harbour, oh" b use read, mad ordered to he printed. Mr. Sus r m hrtoucht rep the Report of the Evertors in curred in, the Ro ? al tircemateit hospital, to carrying tato elfert the Prise Act. Alderman Sit vat resented a Prt'tiou frosts the Free holders of the rumors llf Ave, iteam.t the biting the nee of (.rain in the Distinct ter, whirls was read, awl 01 Aercol to I.e ou the tahle. The Madge Bill teas reed • third time, sad 'asstd. MrAV AAA r. At. gave satire, that hr would. on Thursday seta, more for papers relative to the Arra) . Clothinl. Mr. Ws. lilts loosed the order of the to take Mto s coosideratios the Report of the Committee In the Lunatics' Bill, ...bleb was aereed tn. Ile mot, d, hat the Re port should he rt.-committed." Ihe !Conte Ir. bed itself two • Como-time, and toe& several am...mimeses. The lktai..man repo, t•:.1, mot tt►eLll can oidercd to be read a thir.! t :roe 0.1 Ile.lorstlay seat. Ths }loose roolsed itself tot., a Commttee on the Dean and New Forest Rah nest through the s. versa classes, •itli imemintent. and the Chairman reported. .141.1111 DAN pry-settled a Petition from Mr. feats ine• merchant. in Ihttelio, praying tot compiriwation Joe roofing mint m Kilnuiirliala gaol, in irtlatiJ, h which Ino an. he suift•rd a prat 1.•.: of Koper') was r. ad, and ordeinel to be on t h e Table Sntai n • pieseated a 'Wider . Petition ferns Bernard cotorlamiAtt of the niateonduct of Dca.tor Trevor. emitiued, stoat *as read, sod ordered to he on the Irrnt r Ws.u.ret.r% obeemecd. ll . 3 l Om lime wc0.1.-Jittimei was tiktit the Act ut llaCcat 11111 t ..11i) Al MI SII T.an.l, WI for undue tbruugh A whych ou \ Mr &s Pork, Ca wheel an -41 4 'Tab* !.,r AI .• parsecs ... II ll 01011 eft the t! cessil vieim th•t settle Hum reri coin' divia prey: Fa Aff Cal KEA, the: cri ti