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7"k - • d eras confident every thing had been dime by Its Majetraf-; Ministers, that ought to have bean done ; but he 'malted to know whither their plan embraced the whole , country and whether it embraced Ireland. /t ought to go to the whole ex . tent of the country. I - Ic had proposed five years ago, that there should be a military survey of the country, and that 20,001 men shouldbe raised and placed in the centre of the country. He was of oainion, a force should be assembled, which, by means of carriages, might he at any point of attack in 30 hours. If this plan w.ts adopted, we might always have a greater force than France could bring together at any one time. He had stated, that plans should he arranged fo br enabling Lords Litnittnants to raise troops, and that - an efficient Deputy Lieutenant should he appointed, who should give orders fur every thing necessary to be done. His Lordship ob served, that the accidents of war were not in our power, Providence directed them ; but it was our duty_ to adopt the best means in our power. Ile hoped there would he an arm? of reserve com manded by an officer of whom the country had an • high opinion. lie would name that officer—lt Was Lord Gre7. He knew he might be trusted with the command of the army of reserve. He could mow another Noble Lord 'ne;.r hint (Nloira) whose mlitary conduct conally qualified him. It was a rafleetion on the country not to make use of the talents of such men. He could mention another gallant officer %%the/ had saved the country by gain iftg possession of Egypt from the French. His Majesty's Ministers since the peace had been tearing the laurels from his brows ; they had not given him any separate command. Earl GROSVENOR called the Noble, Lord to order. The Duke of CLARF.NCE maintained that the Noble Lord was strictly in order. The Earl of SUFFOLK desired that his words Plight be taken down, if he was out of order, and debated upon. Ile did not know why he was to be 110 often called to order ; he was proceeding, when • Earl GROSVENOR appealed to the Chancellor. 'Tice LORI) C.H A NCELLOR' observed, that in point of fag not one of their Lordships had spoken strictly to order. The proposition was to address his Majesty for his gracious Message, and give:him an assurance that efficacious means would be taken to support him in the measures recommended for the security of the kingdom and the prosecution of the war. The Noble Secretary of State, who moved it, was rather out of order in stating what the plan was, but he thought he should have deserved ani madversion if he had interrupted him. The course' adopted by the Noble Mover had led to a dis‘:us sion, to limit Wl4,th was beyond 'ais power. After Lord Sitifolk was called to order, The Earl of CARLISLE said, the Noble Lord had been called to order correctly; because nothing could be more disorderly than to name persons to be employed by the Crown, which was a direct breath of the great prerogative of the Crown. The Earl of SU FFOLK said, he would go to another point. He then mentioned the great utility of the Marines, a corps that would be of the most es sential service both at sea and on shore, Ile recom mended Government to employ as many of them as possible. In the conclusion he approved of the Ad dress, because no man could object to thanking his Majesty for his gracious Message, and additional forces must he raised. Lord RAWDON (Earl of Moira) made a most animated speech on the occasion. He said, the danger of the crisis was so great, that the energies of the people must be called out to enable the country to repel it, and not only act defensively but offen sively. That the people were willing to stand forth, if they were properly called upon, but it was not by half ia•astires, or common.-?lace measures that any god could arise. A Noble Earl had alluded to him as a person fit to he employed He thanked God. he was satisfied with the situation in hich his Ma jesty had been pleased to place hint in ; and upon such an occasion as repelling an audacious inva der, he would as readily draw his sword as a pri vate in the tanks, as command at the head of an army ; and he was sure that the same spirit per vaded the whole country. With regard to the pre sent motion, certainly no man could object to it ; hut as to the measures to be taken in consequence of it, as opened by the Noble Secretary of State, what ever his o'ojetrtinns to it might be, he would not uselessly waste his time in detailing them at that moment. The urgency of affairs required action and not discussion. There had been tno mach tar dineAs and poicristinatien already, and it was won-' derfnlthat hfinisters were now only commencing their career. 'fhevlctiewlong since, thatthe aggression and arrogance of the First Consul, would inevitably tend to war. On the ath March, they brought down his Majesty's Message to call upon the country to war, Stud now it was the latter end of June, that they told l'ariaMeln the outline, sketch, or skeleton of a military measure of considerable military import ance. It was not a cause that could be mastered in the night-gown and slippers of the dull routine of' ,office. It required adirity and vigemus condal, or we had better give up the contest, and consent to perish. Ile tieught it would be much more manly and honourable to die like men fighting for our all. We had indeed Leen like men insensible to a dan ger that stared them in the face. Men sleeping under a poisonous tree, till the scalding drops from its leaves waked us from our slumber, whi: h, if longer continued, would have been the sleep of death. Aw. therefore, that the country was roused and saw its situation, they ought to ad like men who were awake. We said, that the enemy had been wise emu* to pursue a my different lita: of conduct, and had been already suffered to strike a blow, by stripping his Majesty of Hanover andalte whole of hit Electorate. This was an event painful in the extreme to'the heart of every Englishman, to whose preservation of his Majesty's patrimonial dominions was anxiously defined. as, any part of the British empire. Nor was Hano ver of inconsiderable importance to the intereets of Great Britain, it secured to us an -opportunity of attacking the enemy at the back, while we were an noying him, in the front by sea; besides, it secured to us the important circumstance of having Ham burgh open to oar commerce. These important . advantages had been snatched from ns, without Ministers taking arty one meaus to resume andpre oet ve Hanover, which they might easily have done, , as they must have long foreseen that in case of a rupture the first blow that the enemy :could aim at tts, would be to seize upon hie Majesty's Elec. , torate, and thereby enable them to shut our commerce out front Hamburgh, the Elbe, and Weser. Means of rPtaliPtion aught to boa found. There *me openings to *ll4 and injure this. enemy, and deeply too,' that yet remained. Let not a moment then be lost in taking advantage ; let Government ad vigomusly. Cali upon the people, and they had spirit enough, as he before stated, to come forth and assist, hand and heart, in defence of their country. Let Englishmen at least be found ".with harness on their backs." His Lordship pursued this animating strain, with all the zeal and ardour of true patriotism, and sound political wisdom, and continued to recommend to Ministers to recoiled, that by the system of submis "sion, concession; and procrastination, which they had so long fatally pursued, they had suffered the state of affairs to be placed in such a state of emergency, as this country never had experienced at any time in theannals of our history. Let Ministers then make up for their erroneous system, by adopting one of vigour and energy, proportionate to the urgency of the cause. Let them not waste their precious time in - dull deliberation, and discussion ; the time for wirat was gone -by, and all the energies of the -country must be exerted with earnestness, with promptitude, and with such activity as would en sure success. His Lordship said, he certainly should vote for the Address, and give every aid to all such vigorous Measures as Ministers should bring for ward; and the more vigorous tlu, were, they would he the better entitled to his support, in spite of any -hostile obieerions he might entertain to the detail or mode of carryine them into execution. • . Lord 1114. GRAVE rose, and began by coin pl.:knotting the Noble Lord who had fast sat dors, on the patriotic sentiments which lie had just deli vered—sentiments which- did the Noble Lord great honour, and could not fail, being so well-timei, produce the most useful and advantageous effect on the people at large. His Lordship said, he agretd with the Noble Lord in almost every word that 3e uttered. He should likewise vote for the Address, though he did not quite approve of the intention of carryin.• his Majesty's Message into effect, in I.le manner, t he outline of v. hich, his Noble Friend, the Noble Secretary of State, had opened to the House. If he understood him correctly, the men rais -d by ballot were ;it liberty to enlist into the . regular army, whenever they thought proper. Such a measure would disgust the officers who were to . command the troops to be raised ; for what officer would be pleased to be exposed to having one of privates come up to him with his arms a-kimbo, and say, I shall list in the army to-morrow. Lord HOB ART spoke to order. His Noble Friend had misunderstood him ; he had only said, • these was no clause of prohibition put into the bill to prevent the men from enlisting. Lord NIULGR AVE resumed ins speech, and went into a good deal of argument upon the means of raising the men by ballot, and the effect it would lave on the regular army, who were a disposable force, and could be applied to any service at home or abroad. Upon the whole, he approved of the mode of raising the forty thousand men here, the eight thousand in Scotland, and the ten thousand in Ireland ; and, after reasoning at considerable length on the subjea, considered in every possible view, as far as the Noble Secretary of State had opened it, he concluded with promising to attend every stage of the discussion of the Bill, which would necessarily be brought in upon the subject of the Address, to lend it-all the assistance and support in his po ee, and to give every facility posoiblc to his Majesty's Ni. nisters, in maturing such measures as the critical ur gency of the war in which we were engaged required. The war was as popular a war as ever this country bad been engaged in ; the people he was persuaded would manifest that spirit which the Noble Lord, who had spoken last, had talked of, and unite heart and hand in repelling those, who should dare to at tempt an invasion of this country, if their spirit was properly called forth, and he had no doubt but that Government would so call it forth, with as little delay as possible. The Duke of RICHMOND rose, and began his speech in a very low tone of voice. We could spot, therefore, distinOly hear the commencement of his Grace's speech. He took notice of what had :been said of Continental Alliances, and he thought that in a war with France, it was a wise and proper thing, if the Government could have willing and able allies, they ought to obtain them, but they were not always to be had. Continental Allies had in former wars served to preserve, what no longer existed, the balance of power in Europe. Had we had firm and powerful allies, we might have pre vented the present state of Germany, and have preserved Hanover, a loss which he deeply re gretted, not only from the sincere sorrow he felt, that his Majesty should he deprived of his Eledlo rate, but also on account of the vast accession of power it put into the hands of France. The French were, therefore, exclusive of other great advantages, by the possession of the Elec. torate of his Majesty, enabled to remount their Cavalry, tavalry, with sonic of the finest horses on the Conti nent, at a moment when they were most in need of fresh horses, as the breed of horses was exhausted is • France, and such as they had in the use of their ca' valry, were miserably broke down and jaded. Witli • regard to the measure, the outline of which ha 4 been opened by the Noble Secretary of State, he hai some doubt of its practicability. let Noble Lore recollect, that the country had already been called upon within a few months, to ballot for two distinct numbers of Militia; if they were now to be again called upon to raise 40,000 additional men by ballot, he feared they must be taken chiefly from the agriculture of the kingdom, and that must be attended with very prejudicial consequences.— ' —lie should have thought men might have been raised by levy and bounty, as was usual for the army, and applied to general service, as an illustri ous Duke bad recorrunendyd. A.force calculated for , general service might equally be employed in iirfat• i *eve measures or flintive operations, as the na-• tore and circumstances of the war might require The Duke recommended it, to Ministers to employ a number of cavalry in the defence of the country. Our troops of horse were very fine ones, and the horses of this kingdom; of which we had great ' plenty, some of the finest in Europe. With regard to the raising 40,000 men by ballot, his Grace re peated it, that he had doubted of its pradicability. The last Supplementary Militia regiments we net., yet coinpleated. His own regisneat was deficient tiro hundred used, and they were extremely 'ilifscuk to be got. Other- regiments to his knowledge army equally incomplete. He endeavoured to get sighty men, and sixty of them paid the 201. per man , for their exeMptina,* so that in iael you raised money and not men, 'wlsen a farther attempt WAS Mae to raise mere "men loj ball" 4181 . . suds a war as we _are enrage& ip inen's apin;ons ana prejudices ought to be attendlid.to. We eiyl to take the heart and good-will o& Ole country if fit us ; but distressing the agrictilti?v,t fur theft' Oa,. pressure would be most felt, was not the best means of securing that important object. Having added several other observations, the Duke said, that tle had risen when he did because he could niat sit out a long debate, being a very old man, and very in firm. He concluded with declaring that he should vote for the Address. The Earl of LIMERICK rose, and lamented that he did not see a Noble Earl, who had spoken early' in the debate (the Earl of Caernarvon) as he wished to make a few observations on some parts of his speech, which he owned had a good deal surprised him. The Noble Earl, he said, no man could personally respect more than he did,buthecould not bat take notice of one or two extraordinary things which had fallen from him. He had complained I strongly and 'warmly against the measure, the out line Of which hid loeengiven by the Noble Secretary of State, and had sail, that raising more regiments by ballet, was picking the pocket of individuals, in deed of paying for the force, ;ts it ought to be paid for ont of the public purse. Ile could not agree to that position, but what Most astonished him was, to hear the Noble Earl declare, that if the 40,000 men proposed were raised by ballot, the measure - would not be submitted to, and that both in and out of that House, he would continue to op pose it. Surely the expression, the words of which he (Lord Limerick) took down at. the time, must have fallen from the Noble Earl in the warmth and hurry of debate, and on cool refleEtion the Noble Earl would regret that he had made use of it. I-laving spoken to two or three other poi ins in the Earl of Caernarvon's speech, his Lord ship proceeded to say a few words as to his own opinion of the measure, to which the Address re• ferred. He owned he thought Ministers entitled to his thanks for having proposed it; he thought the coming forward with such a measure, taken too ther with the various other measures of preparation, which Ministers had brought forward within these three months, was a series of ' proofs not of procras tination and delay, but of aCtivity, energy, and vigour. With regard to recruiting the army, a sol dier, like a woman, felt a difficulty in prevailing on himself to take the first step, and that having once put on a red coat and become a soldier, he would be always a soldier. He approved the rais ing the men by ballot. because our home defence was necessarily the objeft first to he provided for. He had risen, however, chiefly to take mace of what had fallen from the Noble Earl, whom did not now see in the House. He had only to add, that he should vote for the Address. Earl FI IZWILLIAM observed, that the effs...a of raising so many Militia, exclusive of the disadvan tage of their not being applicable to general service, put an end to the regular recruiting service of the army ; it was impossible that the two service?, should go on together ; and, upon the present oc casion, he should have thought it a much wiser and effedual proceeding, to have suspended the corn pleting the Supplementary Militia, and applied themselves wholly to adding to the regular army by every possible means. The army was a sufficient disposable force, and could be sent any whets. i His Lordship took notice of what the Duke'" Rid:amid had said, recroaing rho two hund men being deficient in his,regiment of Militia ; ' same was the case, he said, in the regiments for the North and West Ridings of the county of York. The men held back in hopes that the price of substitutes would be raised, and therefore they would not come forward for the Militia. At any rate it would, he was persuaded, be wiser to re peal the Aa for the Suplementary Militia, or sus pend it, and recruit the army. He rose, his Lord. ship said, to state, that recruiting and raising the Militia in greater numbers could not be done at one and the same time. Lord GRENVILLE agreed with the Noble and Illustrious Duke, with his description of the real and proper use of a Militia, a description which the Illivarious Duke had given with the utmost accu racy and correftness. He could not but join with those Noble Lords who had complained of the want of aftivity of Ministers in not coming earlier forward with this or some more efficient measure of de fence. The Noble and eloquent Lord below him (Lord Rawdon)-had said, they knew of the ap proach of war on the Bth of March, and it was now the latter end of June, but that was not all, they knew ever since the signing of the peace of Amiens, that every one aft of the French Government had been an all of aggression and insult. They knew this for a whole year, and yet they do not preserve in existence a force, of which they might, on the declaration of w. r, immediately have availed themselves, but they contrive to call out the Militia, , at the very time that it was necessary to recruit the army. The two services, as his Noble Friend had , well observed, could not go on together. With rea Bard to the whole conduce of Ministers, it was of a piece; it was all part of a system of neglect and protraction. Without striking one blow themselves, to annoy the enemy, since the Bth of March, they have dune nothing, but suffered the enemy to seize upon Hanover, and the next news that would arrive would be the shutting up of Hambargh, the Elbe, the Weser, and all the ports in the Noah of Germany. With regard to the present measure, although he thought recruiting the army would be preferable, he would not oppose it, for tear that the Ministers would not propose any other measure, if the present were not received. He should, therefore, in the future operation of passing the Bill through the House, give them his assistance, as he would not; under such circumstances of the country, do any thing to embarrass or impede the measures of Go. rumens. *ttftta;llast to summon his Militia to be forthwiel ballord# fur ; and the delay in bringing them for .w3rsl 'Alas not imputable to Ministers nor to Lord but to the Aft of Parliament itself, which rendered it necessary to summon so many meetings to call for lists, to be produced, and to take ag the necessary steps previous to forming the regiments. Lord GRENVILLE said, in answer to Lord Bart, that he would stand the comparison of the condition ill which Germany stood when he went out of office, to the condition °feet-many at present, and rest'the whole of that matter on the single case of Hanover. Lord HOBART again rose, and said, the Noble Lord had no right to charge him with a loss, which he well knew could not be avoided. At length the question was put, and the Address was agreed to. CLERGY FARMING AND RESIDENCE BILL. The House resolved itself into a Committee again on this Bill. - • The LORD CHA NCELLOR th en moved a 'variety of inseitionsinctomissions of a verbal na l •ture, and introduced several new Clauses in dif. ferent parts of toe Bill. All his Amendments were agreed to,and the Report *as immediately received, and the Bill ordered to be printed. ...' Mr. Alexander7ind others then brought up three more Bills fronithe Gammons, which were present ed, and read a first time. Adjourned at half-after ten. HOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, JUNE 20. The House divided on a Report brought up Ur Mr. Boller for introducing a clause into the Road Bill, for the purpose of levying a new toll on the bridge of the River Exe, at Exeter, on which strangers were ordered to wildtaw; • DP FENCT OF 7r tliE eOUNTRY. The SECRETARY at WAR moved, that the House should, pursuant to the Order of the Day, resolve itself into a Committee to consider of his Ma jesty's Message, respedling the Defence of the Coun try ; which having been complied with, he said, that what he had at present to submit to them was the mode 'proposed for raisin g an adlitional force for offensive operations, as well as defensive, against the enemy. There were two points to which the subject was reducible : Ist, That the force provided should be equal to an effeattal anti powerful defence ; and 2dly, the disposanle force which we should have fin offensive operations. It was the duty of Parliament to attend to both our defence naval and military, and that must be done with reference to the exer cised stren . gth and resources of the enemy in various quarters from which they might have an opportu nity of annoying us. Our preparations must also be made with reference, not to the Government, but to the singular charaFter of the present Governor, who disposed desßotically of the immense power of "'France, augmente - d as it was, by the operations of the late war. In ordinary times, and under regular and established governments, nay, even during the late war, a force of 140,000 men was deemed sufficient, with the strength of our immense navy cooperating, to look with contempt on the threats of our enemies. They would still be sufficient fur home defence; for he made little doubt but the army which would attempt to invade us would - 6e sent to the bottom of the sea before they could arrive, or be dashed to pieces by the cannon of those who would be opposed to them. When he looked to the promises made to the First Consul by the different provinces of France, and by his military coadjutors, he could only smile at their audacity ; at the same time that he made little from Bonaparte's charaaer, that the attempt would not be made. The officers, how ever, who offered themselves for this service, and wished to follow the triumphant banners, as they called it, of their chief, N‘ Juld find the passage of the British Channel far more tremendous than that of the river Styx. " Fata obstant, tristique pal e s inarnabilis unde d' Alligat, Se novtes Styx tnterfusa coercet " The nmergeanct which the First Consul meditates against this country was now clearly and distin&ly traced, and nothing would ultimately satisfy him than the degradation of England, to enable him, by the destruCtion of the power and the interests of this country, easily to effal that of the slavery of Europe. 'The First Consul possessed these pro perties that would never suffer him to be at rest, possessing, as he did, " vartut animus, et incredibile loniser aliquid evnans." But however violent his ani mosity, and ferocious his conduit, ready as he pro fessed himself to be to sacrifice fleet after fleet, and the thousands after thousands, to his views of am. bition and vain glory, and however we might de spise his threats, it was not the less necessary to make additional reinforcements, to convince him that his ent,nprize would be more arduous and pe rilous than he might have conceived it. In this case, what he meant to propose to the Committee was, that there be raised an army of reserve of 5(1,000 men, of which :".4,000 should be levied in England, 10,000 in Ireland, and 6,000 in Scotland. That army of reserve would leave a disposable re gular fore?, and place the country in the most com plete state of security. From our present situation, it must inevitably happen that we should have great naval success ; but it must be confessed that tile Military system hitherto pursued was by no means proportioned to the power, strength, a grandeur of the country. It was therefore necessary that a new system should be adopted, but that would be best resorted to in a tine of quiet and tran. quality. The first consideration was, that the force proposed should be levied as speedily and made as efficient as possible. The second was, that the army reserve should . , English, Kingdom TIM Incas. • emcieot as possible. The second was, that the army Lord HOBART rose again to explain several of reserve should serve, whether Engli s h, S cotc h, or points that had been adverted to by several Noble Irish,lirt any pat s of the United Kingdom to which Lords, in the course of the debate. With regard to they may be ordered, and also thq islands of the what the Noble Lord had said about the Militia, Channel, such as Jersey and Guernsey. As to did not every Noble Lord know, that the Militia, the arrangements, there were three points to tinder the Ad of Parliament, was always obliged which he wished to dired the attention of the Com. to be disbanded at the end of the wart And ae.te mittee. tit. That all persons should be liable to their not being called out sooner, he would appeal serve, from the age.of la so 45 years, who were to to every Lord Lieutenantof a county, to say who. he Officered by persons properly qualified frost thor he did not write a circular War b 3 every one • knowledge and experience. lidly, 'rim their extent of them, in autumn het,. to ansurocos the Militia of 4 . 'of service should be Great Britain, Ireland, and the his county forthwith.. , With • r dto she loss of ;steads of die Channel. Lad sdir, That, hum* llaaorer, a tionr , t h at L a o, mope ' , had iiell ' .ef during the war, their time of service should be c r e42l4ny. migthvgajo i d lift ho e s aeshAtfill, act. litnited to foe, years. The grounds G E the pin had. they used any matimaryisiloy. .., .. were difereat from -those pursued at 1711 4 ,tots Ty Doke of AwbuitoND ath e i tte d. okt 0 .were the toaopS to he . considered oti the saosetoeSiog Lard Linnenaai id** asustr of Sersist;l4 144 ;With the valornteeriotee Oleo raised and alp nt hr • seesaw tube Maki bap" of &OWL lessrlik liabralus a!saseartiat ?raise to Amnia ma • •• .. N t .. L v