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I kept up in this country, p irticularly iu a time of trace. His objection was not that every officer going into the army should be properly educated, hut that an establishment like this should be kept go into the service. By the regulation, foot yearol only were required to complete the course of Wow_ 1 cation ; so that in four years the whole 11111110111111r1 ought to enter upon. service ; but in point of fact, according to the returns before the House, out of 1,164 Commissions filled up in the course of five year% only 160 were of persons educated at the College. the cost of each to the public kiting 720/.los. He called upon the House, therefore, if this establishment were to be kept up at all, to iosiat opaline being so conducted as to secure to the public the services of alt who were educated at the public expense. The scale of suds an establish sperst.should also be as economical as possible. Now he would ask any in 111 acquainted with estubligks, lutists for the purposes of educatiou, .2L necessity them could possibly be for a usey staff, at an expense of 6,45',/. for the purism. agotreruing 490 buys? The persons on this este blishment Isere stationary, and yet there was • sur gem) and au assistant, although in the army. on actsill service. ou assistant was thought sufficient to sitend oc a detoeisusent of 900 men who were mov ing alma'. TIM *amber of professors was eaters. sagmat..bei four of fortification. six of drawing, awl ripe , of .; two of n each would be goe at e sailienoist.. ~ r e were also five clerks, viz. one colt c,Otrh to the Governor, one to she Lieitte sow , two in the Lieutenant-Governor's otkg, and one ,iii the paymaster's office. What nerd there could be of • Paymaster he did not know. and still less could he account fort he keep ing op of tweatysfour servants to attend on ego hgys, who were educating fur soldiers. The Hou, eirnotletitan concluded by moving. as an amend sarratya groat of 9,761/. is. ad. . LTA P4I.IIIIUTON said, it certainly was taper , flitnt that the system should not be extended so a greater degree in poiut of numbers than they lad means to provide for. and the proof that this a s s Fite case was, dist there were but forty who bed their 'pawn , - • not provided fur. It his ' Arnow the Hon. Gentler's.. calculations, but it might be " '..now how the matter 4,928 young mess bad beet' founded, commissions from the into the service, sod private life. afterwards sormem, And if the Hoe. Ztinalser to examine the that the expense of this ter diem others. With Lieutenant Governor, unuutesioss of the Hon. inquiries, that he could tly resided on the spot. that Hon. peetlensan told for his own side of where soot a eluidow of bi.. could , , thrown, he professed entire ignomioce. The . ode at whit 11 young mess tattered that College was jaet the time when they were most 4lifficult to manage. They were not boys. mod . therefore, could not be sebspitted to the chastise social that boys pews-ally receive. nor were they sufficiently experienced to. avoid the follies 19 which boys are midicted ! ,,,tfistiler those eircions. , stances, if sheen were not serwpersen of, weight, it would be quite impossible In manage them. With sesNct to b ike librarian and paymaster that had been coinplained of, he should say that the lihrsry conmoted of several military snaps soil other important documents, and consequently there must be *owe confideutial person to intend it ; and as tor the paymaster, it could not be thought that Ibis office was useless, when, in fact, he had all the ac t aunts, tradesmen's bills, &c. to attend to. The Hon. Geutleriosn had also objected to the surgeons, but he thought, when the House considered the great value of health. sold the little expense attend log it, preparation, this was a consideration that could not weigh a moment with them. It was therefore of the mot essential importance that an adequate medical establishment should be sup ported. The same answer might be given to the '44ouplaint of the intinher of servants, for if they were not kept, they should have a still larger esta blishment of sing-rims, ns soothing could tend so much to preperve litabli as cleanliness. Whets Gentlemen come to consider the persons admitted to this establislinient. they must see the expense will gradually diminish. A peat proportion of oba•e admitted are the sons of officers fallen in bat tle, anti at urine are admitted after a certain age, every rear we recede Irons the termination of war ninon diminish the numbers. Colonel Maims observed that the system of erlocistran adopted there was very incomplete. He himeelf had beet. educated there, and he knew several that had al.o received their education there, mod he would senture to sty that in nineteen in shioce. out of tweary, the education that young m e n festive there is oliurist of little use. The sensor establohntent, which was the ntost aervice.t ide, they have reduced. and increased the junior department, ibut should to diminished. There was also u great injostire dune in the nomination of Professore. 44e wriderstoral that s most distinguish tflteetltedlittity effererl himself candidate fur tide Prufessurnslup of f..rislicieitost and was rejected. There were cowry other topics to which be might Oven ! such a. rlw riilicuhrus expense of a manner r;* the hand, drummers, fliers, ice. But so wed. had been sad by lus Mit. Friend (Mr. Rom.) that it would hr quite nolo cessary fur loin to oc rat ty the !lutist Imager. • Sir L r Cots agreed wish the lion. Gentleman that tad just sit duets, ihas the senior establish 'anent was much the wine useful. Wish respect to the condiseting of et, Ito trail could bee it washout sionstralion. He thought the education young men received there was . nut . aserely militaty, but suds as qualified a man hie tatty society. No mini could he mere gosling-el fur the ontortion lie held than Sir G. IlltUrroy, said after all the expense they lied already ode* throngh, he thought they shoold not now withhold toe means of supporting tbe establish- Intent in a ignitable isainier. tolorret Atli= said, that No matt was more sensible ilsan Insuielf of the rapt/mug obhgattosur ate count'' , erred to Sir G. Morro). bit L. Cut.g said, it wee quite impossible for a Gentleman; such as Sir George Murray, to attend all the Mails of the office ; w►d therefore it was necessary there should he a Deputy. Mr. Hustle said, that all that could be collected thin Sir G. Murray wa• ■hove his work. Li Get the question seemed to be, whether they 'hook! . . iug a cork ?—(.4 laugh.)—He did Vi i , ar e t „,, the reduction should tie made, whet he r ii t O. senior or the Deputy-Governor, but one - of 'hem ap peared to hint quite supeifiumis. lit MO; the Institution was founded by Monsieur Le Marchand ; some time after it mistimed the name of the Mi litary College, sod then the expense likely to at• tend it was computed at 3,359!. With respect to the surgeons, it was only accessary to look to the alloy, and see the numbers they have to attend there. The mound inference from this must be, that either the one is neglected, or the other is too well attended. He. therefore, conceived the House would not perform their duty to the country if they did not mite some reduction. Lord PA LMERSTON said, the Honourable Geo. (lessen seemed disposed so indulge is • few jokes oar the subject. With respect to coilis, lie had no objection to draw as many with him as he pleased.— (A laagA.)—Howevrr, cm the sub ject of the reduction proposed he must be allowed to d.ffer ; and surely the Honourable and Gallant Gentleman (Colonel Device) having his education at that College, must know that one or two persons are not sufficient so attend to a ll. Lord J. RussELL said, he could not allow the question to go to a vote without expressing his diaapprobatiou of the system of education pursued at the Military College. He thought that brioging up boys from so eat ly au age at the sound of a drum, acid accustoming them to the sight of uniform, was ouly tit fur a Military Government-01~1.- 01d however it might be justified in time of war, he thought it by no means advisable in time of peace. It appeared to him, that, up to the age of 13, there was a • education fit fur the other Korea. Noll! that was not fit for the military. Young ateu 'mended fur the chinch or the bar were never in structed at that age in theology or law. He saw no reason why there should be fOur professors of the Fiend. language. There were' venous ocher points so which he might allude, but be Mt it was quite unnecessary. Lord PALMERSTON said, the argument of the Noble Lind seemed to hint quite extrserdisiary, namely, that young men should be trained ep us total constitutional ignorance. He thought th..t if officers were not issotructed ill these ponds, all our national valour would go for nothing. He_thought the profession of a soldier was quite different hull all others, for miles' • young man could be pre pared to jesm .his regiuseist at eighteen, when was he expected to be fit ? Mr. BIN NETT agreed with his Noble Friend (Lord J. Russell), that die system of coercionand milttery discipline that was pursued at that College was its consistent with the liberties of a free Constitution. The College may do good in diffusing kuutvleillge, but he conceived it did considerable harm in en ' forcing . u kind of settle military obithenek.l quite incompatible with the civil inkitutions of the country. He did not attach so much im portance to the advantages derived from tins College as others seemed disposed to do. He could time many that were much bele, edueated for the army at home, both in the knowledge of languages , aid the various branches of scienee requisite - Itir the profession. The question for the House to consider was, whether they should support set-it en euortnous establishment ? The plan that should t be adopted was, us let those have the alumina - tuns who 'reit best qualified for them. Colonel WOOD said the objection of the HoL Gentleman (Mr. Bennett) could not avail s as mu } of the persons educated at that College fould not be educated at home, not having any parents. They were the orphan children of brave men who had fallen gloriously ill battle in defence of their country.—(Hear.)—With respect to the education best for a young officer, he held in his hood the opinion of General Wolfe, an opinion that all would feel disposed to treat with respect. The Honourable Gentleman then reed 1111 extract, which stated, " Your brother, no doubt, is ac quainted with the Latin sad French lauguages, and mathematics. Without this hest, he can never become acquainted with a most important branch of our profession—fortification, or the attack and defence of places. In these times of scarcity and public danger, if young men don't follow your brother's example, oath acquire that tutu for com mand, by making themselves fit fur that important trust, we must sink before the superior abilities and indefatigable industry of our restless neigh bours." Captain O'GRADY mid he had on a former oc casion expressed an opinion with respect to the rid ing-school at Pimlico, not because he bad any ob.. jectiosi to learning so ride, but that this ins tints was itiallequate to the effects intended to be produced. It surprised him that this establish ment should have had such a miraculous escape from she sciutiuixing inquiries of the lion. Gentle. man (Air. Hume), mid when invited into it would, he had du doubt, be found advisable to do away with it altogether. _ _ . _ Mr. Hume said, in reference to what had fallen from an Ilan. Gentleman appetite (Col. Wood), that it was not his with, and still lets that of his Non. Friend (Mr. lleititett), to deprive the orphans of gallant cheers of the advantages 01'014 institu tion ; but thry formed a very small proportion in deed. Ile thought them 'lever was a ante the Howe was called Oil to give more utterceasary than the prepeht. _ Colour) Woo° said a few words is reply to Mr. Hume. Colonel 11ARDINGE said. the reel queetion be fore the lioube we, whrtler the es penises sittending this institution stele more then woo 'mussily times ssiy fur its support ? He had liiiiisrll at- sue period belonged to the senior department, ainue then he visited France and Germaniy, end burl seen their milttasy schools, end he had no hesitation to .6. 113, that the system iturseed in dour College worn el:polar, tie, therefore, thought thin no sud den diminution should take Owe. Mr. BRIGWV blood, he could not but leek upon this estebbsloineist with rust joulosiey,•tioeugh Ire had• too objection to nienitridning it so far us nose necessiory fur the education of the orphan childieu of officer,. The question he limelight was this., whether us gond 811 education could met be given at a touch less expense ? He felt rery inconitie- I tent to enter into the details of the question, but P. he felt he should be doing his dutpta those who t area hint to the Howe to vote fur a ire'' , large I reduce len. advantages to be derived from the establishment were sufficiently solid to warrant theit•corieinuauce in the presentstrte of the country, and agreed with his Hun. Friend, that the proper education for a Eng Officer was the same as I'M en English Gentleman. Mr. Ww.tasts was averse from evteblishments of dm uature,whose only end W4B to inculcate n.ili tAry Idea.. He wee as willing- as any one to educate the children of those who lied fatten in the service of their country, but he did not see why of necernity such children should have a mill tory education. Ile also woad put it to the Noble Lord, whether the 291 Cadets could require no less thin 104 masters and servants, for that was the number employed. Mr. WILSON said, that no person could be less cnispetent than himself to enter into she details of tlie.pressot question ; hut irk were true, as tamed, that only 55 Orphan Choldren of Oitcers were in the Collem it did ihfiear in biro that the este. blishment ,had been perverted to purposes not contemplated et the time of its institutions Mr. Huila explained. , After a frw words from Colonel LTAalltNae end Captain O'Gge DI G the Gallery star cleared fir a, division, a hen there eppeared--. For the Amendment Against it „„,;1 . • Majority seaisat the Itiewsialeseet • The lteaolu:inn for Krnotsulf 1711.11061. is. 3d. , for the pay of General Officers, not being Colonels of regiments. fur one year fur Great Britain, end 1463/. 9.. 3d. fur Ireland, was then read and *greed tu. On the Resolution being reed to grant 48,2041. 9. • . 3d. for Guards and Garrisons— Mr. Hume rose and objected to the vote, ar the lied of offices, included therein, each as Governor*, Lieutenant-Goer/ours, &c. were well knowu and ac knowledged sin.curee. The Governor of Gib raltar for example. Lord Chatham received there 2,8001. end here OIL and dal nu duty say where. Ile would ask whether these Insecure offices were so tit continued The Marquis of LONDONDERRY mid, it was by no means in the contemplation of hie Majesty's Government to - make any reductiew in that which had always been considered ss • reward fur brilliant military services. The Hoc. Member seemed to have been induced to bring forward his general ob jection for the sake of a particular comment. end he mild not think he had merle it is that spirit of candour which was disc to the aoble perms. con cersod. That disarmer lisd.vidual never dal ac cept the situnion as a sinecure, sod was only delayed by the calamitous circuroemuce of Lady Chatham's death, front going out to take spun him self the duties of the aisuatiou. le fart, he believed that he was at this sitomesit about to set off, and he was surprised the 11104 Member, with hie general • isformation, was net aware at it. The Hoc. Mem ber objected to this ritualism, from which Lord Chatham was to receive 4,110 W., slims the late Duke of Kent held it at 6,5001. per onuouh, Mr. Hume thought the military services of the late Duke of Kent should not be put in compari son with those of the Earl of Chatham. In his abjection to this resolution he had eisi intention to reflect on any individual, and he should have ob jected. let who would have been the individual on whom the appointment had been conferred. The Duke of Kent received it from his late Majesty as it reward for 10 years Military service abroad, and be (Hr. flume) did not think those services would , Wear comparison with the Noble Lord's, either at •Welcheien or elsewhere. As to the allowances, the • Doke ought to have received the Saint as General Fox, his predecessor, did, which was 9,000/. a year ; but of part of that sum he was defrauded (for so he might call ii) by his Majesty's Go vernment : the fees ou wine I.censes being reduced, for which his Majesty's Government was pledged to make him compensation ; but it as, sever done, mid at the time of the Duke of Kent's death he had a claim of 3,8001. He did not think, therefore, with the full knowledge of the circom- Menem. that the Noble Marquis need have been so prompt in making the comparison be had done. The Marquis of Lonnonnattay explained. Colonel Davies thought the Noble Marquis had charged his Hon. Friend (Air. Home) with par tiality unjustly, as if there were no difference be tween continuing au officer and a fresh appoint. went. He had all the respect possible for the great name of Chatham. hut it would be remem bered that the Noble Ertl received as the pun of died great Statesman 4,0001. u year hoot the Citosulidated Fond. Sir F. 011$111t1N y supported the Resolution. Mr. llvtta begged_to ask the Noble Lord _Wel mention). whether the establishment of the Tower was kept up as it was a few years ago, fur the por poise of rewarding military mem ? At Ilerwick, where he was a short time ego, be found every species of arms had been removed far fear of the Had cols ; )&t, tiotwithetandisig the essentials of a gariison were gone, there wan a charge of 9491. kept up 10 f Governor and for serjeants, to take care of the gun.. when there was not a Rua la the place. Taking 9401. for this useless garrison, and 1,5001. Rona Gibraltar, he should move that '2,449/. Ire deducted from the sum propmed. Lord A. HAMILTON said, the Noble Marquis had Altspliqed some ingenuity io attemptitig to china the attention of the House from the question before it. His objection sus to the alike tie tf r which he deleight A rtipes flinty. He always had beard the .fie arguments in defence of vniecuie,t, namely, atm they were an tioppropilmie reward fur iirIVIOrS but lie never lomiti that they were giveu to those by whom the greatest services were perfuenied. He should thearture support the propusitiuu of his Has. (Mr. Hume). Lewd PA LIIIIMSTOM acid, the Howl. Member wss , 01114ekell in tasting the whole BUM a bents re- Tiered for eisteeares. The othule of the swhordi mitewdleirs•had dottiest() perform, sad asine, such us tits Vort.Adjutam, nut of a vivid As to the Towel, the lion, Member (Gehl see, c e 4, •tk., by referring to the present establi4liment (4 re - *Nets bible) ,lietht of as en the w. .her ►t was rte some as at the per; he hed ulholrrl to. The oloervetion of the Noble Lord (A. li.un►lton) would, lie thought, appear completely unfounded if the names of the tracers were read who now held some of the situations in question. lir that list would appear the mimes of the Duke of Wel lington, Lord Hill. Sir Lowry Cole, tl e urror Croon, Lord Hutchimors, Lord Berrsforcl, and Lord Curnbernseve, and from that the House would judge whether these situations were not given as the rewards for brilliant tntlttu y set vices. Mr. BENNETT wished to know why Inverness should coutinue to have a garrison? lt might for merly have been necessary to bridle the High ',sours, but the time for that was now gone by. At Hull, too, there was a large military establish ment, but no troops, and at Stirling Also. What had Stirling dune that it should cost air country 3701. I year? If the list were gorse through with that view, he thought it would be found that a great tiu , ober of the nooses iu it bad a good deal of election interest. Lord J. RUSSELL wished to ask, us Lord Chat ham «so going our, whether it was the intention of Government to keep up the appointments of the Lieutenent•Goventor at the pre/petit rate? The Marquis of LON DON DUST could. give no reply to that question. Mr. l'utturs said, it was impossible not to see that Gihralior ass kept up as a sinecure. Lord PA 1.81511111T0N said, the Una. Gentleman hod bteu a little unlucky in his reference to elec tioneering interests, for it happened that at Stirling (respecting which the remark had been made) Lord Hutchin.on was the G.►vernur, and it was rather unlikely he would exercise any electioneering in libellee, at least fur that aisle uf the Hottse. The Committee then divided oa Mr. Humes amendment, when there appeared— Fur the Autetiduteut Against it s7 lajorily. . On the revolution for grantiug 113,4461. 17a. &I. fur full pry of retired and uraittaelted oHicen— Mr. liens rose and objec:ed that the country had been put to great r :prim by the formation of the veteran corps, which, although it was know., they were wily to be kept up for a short lime, officers had been taken from the army, many of whom had served three, four, arid six years only, and by being transferred to the veteran corps fur a Ikw mouths, because entitled to full pay. The eicpense which had beets thus uuhecessarily in curred be computed at 13,8701. sad he should therefore move to deduct that sum from the origis mil proposition. Lord Petmeastron said, that although dieters from the veteran corps retired ou their fell pay, they had a countervailiug disadvantage in being incapabk of hily further promotion. He begged also to übseive, that length of service was net the criterion or selection. bat those were chosen who had some infirmity from wminds, or from severity of climate, and also that many of them, though thiey might have servid only a short period as COMM atieripnetl officers, bed been promoted for good he , haviour as non-commissioned officers. sad bad sav ed in the latter capacity for many years. Mr. Mee said, after the explanatiew of the Noble Lord he should not _press .his objections. After a few words from Mr. BINNITT the ROG lalluis was agreed to. On the Resolution for granting 1210151. for malt-pry sad reduced allowances to officers of dis banded foreign corps. and for pensions to widows of deceased foreign ufficere—• Mr. Heise rose and said, he should make no obeervatiou on foreign officers receiving half-pay, but surely it never could have been in she contem plation of the Legislature that they shoeid be its a better situation than lEtiglish officers, and yet that were the case, as the English officer, if abroad, would have to psy agency on negociating a bill for has hell: pay, whilst the foreigir officer in similar circum burner, had that charge defrayed for bias by the public, although the agency had never been named in the estimates. He contended that all the duty for which an individual last year received 3,1001., might have been performed by two clerks in the Noble Lord's Office at an expense of only 2804 a year. He should therefore move a reduction of 3,0201., being the per ceutsge on MAUL at 2 per cent. Lord Peueserroe said, that by the arrange ments made the British officer could receive his half-pay tree of expense, either in London or the country, and it was only placing the foreign officer, whose natural residence was abroad, on the same footing which in equity he was entitled to. Colonel DAVIES said, he had bent informed.that foreign officers receiving our half-pay were also re ceiving full pay in foreign services. He presumed the regulating was the some for them as for the Bughsli officer, who would be dismissed from the army i fhe entered the service of a foreign government. He had been informed of a FteUell officer who re. erived our half-pay, ,and at the sense time was its full pay from the French Government. The Duke de Guiche was also on our half-pay list, though lie held a high commission its the French service. Lord PALMERSTON said, there was an exception in fervour of the officers of the German Legion, but to all others the same rule applied as to our own officer., and they could not take eersice with other Poweis without epeeist pecinission. He hod received an anonymous counnunicotion respecting French officers who received our half.pay cm full-limy under the French Goreri ' nneet and be had in d consequeece made inquiry an found there was nu foundation fur the charge. The Duke De Guiche way mentoned es one of those prr roes, bat the fart wise. lie had trot drawn 011 C farthiug of his half-pay. It was nut sae cereorry to say soy thing of the mature of the Duke de Guiche's seri/terse they were of the most brilliant description. He had served with us till the restoration of the French Sovereign. As soon as his Monarch wsis resigned he returned home, and It would be hard to punish a gallant person for returning to prows hie allegisoute to his Monarch. Colonel Davits aid that it could toot be deem ed r puoibluneut to the Duke de Goodie to remove Mw Itoui the Engle& rutty, eatiefefleet hp eueld but serve Om Kier 411 FfllllCe sad Zughead at the net: time. sip • Lord PALMERSTON and Colonel DAMES mutu ally explained. Mr. G. BRIINITT eulogised the Duke de Guiche, and propo►ed as au amendment a reduction nf 4,000h_ -•-- . Mr: films said, that he had formerly put a gum. tie° to the Noble Lord, to know if there was ally recruiting of foreigners for the British service, to which - lie - had replied, from very incorrect informa tion. that there was not. He read a bill made nut for a Captain of • transport, dated April 7, directing him to proceed to Heligoland to take in inn recitsits. lie wished for some explanation on this subject. Lord l'aLmeastrox said, that it had been the custom to recruit foreigners to fill up the 60th. He bud no intention to lewd the Hoeft astray, and could not hare understoo I the tendency of tin lino. Gentlensau's question. It was the insesni 4444 rf the Government to future to fill up the 60111 two troops of the United kingdom. The gallery wits cleared for a division. The numbers were— Fur the Amendment ... 33 Aphist it Majority s4 On the motion that 14,796/. 7s. be grouted for the establishment of Chelsea Hospital—. Cult:Niel Davies complained of there being six medical attendants for services which did not re. qeire more than two. Sir C. Lope said, that any one who had ex amined the subject must be convinced that the interschool were not too well paid fur the services ren dered. Mr. Gottoom wished to know what was meant by the eltirge of LOU!. a-ye•r for • Magistrate to ;Meld the out-pensioners? Mr. Mutt questioned the propriety of keeping up Citehern Hospital altogether. The Resolution wars then agreed to, as was an other fur granting 15,9704 6s. for the Kilatainham Hospital. Also 943,0001. for the out-pensioners or Chrttee, and i15.2i4/. for the out-penatoners of kidurainhani. On the meat Resolution for granting 32,226/. fur the expenses of the Royal Military Asylum— Mr. Hulse appealed to the Noble Lord if it was right to keep up this establishineut, which was intended for the children of soldiers who had fallen in battle. He wished to know if it war the inten tion to keep up the number of children to 1,200 in future ? Lord PALMERSTON said, that the admissions would be confined to orphans, or such as lust one parent, that being the bother. Mr. [footloose objected to keeping up this end of Itlemeluke establishment entirely dependant on the Government. Lord PALMERSTON said, that the children were brought up without any condition of entering the army; bet were bound out to trades, if they chose it.—The resolution was then agreed to. Lord PALMERSTON moved that the sum of 21,5611. I Is. Id. be granted for superannuations itt civil nth es of the Government. Colonel DAUBS moved • redaction of 2,328/. and coinplanied that the Act of George 111. for hushing the proportions of aupeoamastatiosaa to salaries, was repeatedly infringed in the allowances now proposed. Lord PALMIUNTON said, that in all such cases there were allowances for abolition of offices, sad not for retirement. Colonel DATIRS said, it was not to be endured that officers who had shed their blood, and spent their best days in the ►ervice, and attained the rank of General Officers, should be deprived of the half-pay suited to their rank, unless they happened to come within a certain number from the head of the lust, while such large allowances were mode to others who had performed little or ins service. Mr. Hone said, he had moved some time hack for a list of all persons holding two ur more offices, or pensions, which had not yet been laid on the table. As they were thus left in the dark, and the hour being stow so late, he should move, as an amend meet, that the Ch•irmau report progress, and ask leave to sit again. Mr. J. Sum( wished to oak the Noble Lord, whether the retired allowances and superannuatiou pensions were continued to persons who were after wards appointed to other offices or situations? He understood it was so, sod thought it a gross abuse. One case of the kind to which be alluded, wps that of Sir Ralph Woodforde, who had • retired pension, and now enjoyed one of the most valu able colonial appointments in the gift of the Crown, that of Governor of Trinidad. Lord PALYEILSTON replied across the table in so tow • tone, we could not collect his answer. Mr. H. G. Balton begged the Noble Lord to consider whether it would not be better that the Chairman should now report progress, es they had been eight hours in the House, and a rest deal yet remained to get through. Lord PALNIIRSTON assented, and moved that the Chairman report progress and ask leave to sit again, and that to-morrow • Report be made to the House of the Resolutions already agreed to. The SPEAKER then resumed thrC hair and the , Chairman of the Committee made his Report ac cordingly. On the motion of the CIIANCELLOAL of the Ex- CREQUZI, leave was given to bring in a Ball us worm] the Act for building New Ctiurelies. Mr. MIMI gave notice that he should move ini•rrow (this do)) for certain returns sa:ating to ihr expense and ratablisliment of the Royal Alamo/. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned , at ONE o'CLocx. The Sheerness steam packet sailed front Tower strife on Saturday morning, stud mashed Woulwirl , Wileti ill consequence of some accidents neelllfllig to the rulers of the rtram-rtignir. the lut.rengrt• (who before had Jespaireti of ptu.r(uting the toyage, in eou►equa«ce of the slowness of the worksag of the vesoel) became dreadfully alarmed, sud begged to be put on ashore. Thrir terror ill. creasiug they put out signals of dtstrese. and busts from shore were scut to their assissautr. some of *lnch tvere utterly souk by the impetuosity of the potaessgers, and their anxiety to get iwo them. Time itostalea echoed to take same thou It* pawn• at a time, and by digit of exertion► prevented enure front gettiug into the heats. la *short time all were pot onshore, sod remelted tetra the *sloe de7. I Jawed their egamiustions not was not bia intention to follow tl Uf4 • Hpuse) in all his 4...alculatir . relates the House should kni , seputi at.,preseut. There were .adpaitied since the Inatitation Aqg of ale. rreeieed cowl igallege. 18 volunteered into V. after withdrawing iato pri Cinto the Valletta services. tt i nt . an would hage the csail _aglitter fairly, he wergild bud that Katahlaillallent was act • greater I Totopect to the Goyeraor sad La was sarlaiseti, rope the min sitleahines (Hr. Hanle's) inqu Itetgaorant that they constantly I Ala he was iodireed to think ttm tieleeted that pniuts OW told the question, and niagia matters of blame could tae throws), I f = r ~: ~ N