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THIS EVENING, Wedneidny, April 18, TOMORROW, nod SATURDAY, en entirely new LECTURE on OURANOLOGIA, and the STRUCTURE of the UNIVERSE, will be delivered by Mr. HARTLEY. The machinery which will be introduced in aid of the subject, and naremary for • popular illastration of the se hltine phenomena of the Heavens, has been ruusirscied on • scale of enpreeedonted aplendsur, magnificence, and expense. IN PART 11. The GRAND PLAN ErA SIU3I, representing the SUN, EARTH, and MOON, with the times of their respective semdations, imitated wit► statlvemaiiest sec•raey, sad en crickd by s Zodiac, One Hundred Feet is Circumference. IN PART 111. Tewillkll4llo.ot .ORRERY of uriparalkled extent, de. orribior a Circle elf gee Hundred and Thirty feet, and the Comet of 1111. Doors to be opened at H■lt.past Six, and begin at Seven. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. h. experience that their sense of the great import , twee mid sanctity of an oath was the only obstacle to their immediate admissiou, under all the exist ing exclusion., to the highest of f ices in the Slate. He was astonished at the reference made by the Rev. ['Mate last ought to the charge of Catholics not being bound by their religion to keep faith with Heretics. Over and over *gam h..d the Catholics disclaimed the admission of any sad' doctrine. He need nut tended that Rev. Lord that if the decla rations of the Catholics on this point was not fit for reception, there would be so evidence worth tut g upon the subject. He maiutained the neeresity of admitting that ifetratioo. True Christian charity believed no .41.. After such dec• trim.* had been repeatedly and notoriously disown ed, it was not his duty, woe the right of wise other person, to contend that they wet e still acted upon. Upon the claims of the Catholics he might hare been dispo.ed to question his individual opinion, bad he not found that he was warranted by the concurrence of the sentimeuits of men much wiser than himself. Ile referred their Lordships to the constellation of genius, of political sagacity and state ability which hill lent is light, and the distinct members of which had lent their support to the favourable dr. ciaton of this question. Burke, Pitt, Fox, Sheri dan, Roundly, and Whitbread, bad all been sop lioness of it. There was another whom lie would mention only by describing hint as one whose name would he long dear to Ireland, whose obsequies had been attended by manifestations of regret and vene ration which were too powerful for description. His remains were deposited with those of the illustrious men of past times in a spot not vet) , remote from that on which lie was addressing their Lawilithips. He had lived fur his country, and till his tly nig hour was engaged in advocating the cause of her civil and religious rights. If lie tired ed to make any addition to the hoist which lie had enumerated, he had only to mention the able Moser of the measure before their Lord ships in the other House, the Members of which had been persuaded by his eloquence, surprised by his knowledge, and convinced by his powerful reasonings. If ever there was a concurrence of opinion among men of the greatest talent, it had beets manifested in favour of the principle of this measure. It could not have been mere accident that caused so many rays of the proudest and purest iiitellectual light to converge, as it were, in to a common focus upou this question, and shed light so much greater on the Catholic side of the argument than had ever, or as he believed, ever would be shed by the opponents of the Catholics dangered by them. He rearward against the dread-4P Cationic influence in offices of State. H a Cattorlier should be elected Privy Counsellor, it could mitt he done with the 'deter of a Protestant Council.. ' ,Had the Duke of Wellington been a member of 'the Popish communion, as were thousands of the 04 bratre troops who fought under him, his immense :and illustrious services would not have been of less iralue to the State. He did not believe that in ,Corporations the influence of Catholics would ever predominate. He would trust to the Gamper the Orange party its Dublin, for instance, to pre l't the election of a Catholic Lord Mayor. He . ' t itivated that the Catholic professed to owe any thing 41Per thew snaps:divided allegiance to tba,Soirewegsse He only claimed the right o f trusting t o ■ spiritual authority in matters purely religious. He did not wish for the acconspaniment of soy securities to the measure now proposed. The Catholics had given the best possible securities already—the con tinuance of exemplary forbearance and loyalty, tinder the severest privations. He wished, whether the present measure were to be extinguished or' tint, to are the Catholics encouraged to persevere is that conduct of submission and loyalty which had distinguished them, sod he was convinced that the increasing liberality of the age, the principles of ju-lice, policy, and truth, would at length concede their emancipation. The LORD CHANCELLOR rose, and apologised for taking so early an opportunity of delivering his opinions ; lie stated his fears lest the effects of in- 1 eessent toil and anxiety might have disabled him, had he left it to a later period, from expressing his sentiments with that clearness and force which his sense of duty taught him to consider as necessarily due to the decision of a question of such great mo. meta. As some allusion had been made by the Noble Mover of this measure to the promise of opposition which he had made to the progress of the Bill, he wished first of all to say, that in his opinion he took the question of the second read ing to be the proper opportunity for deciding on the merits of the Bill. He thought it but right that a measure of that importance should be de bated, not merely with is view to the principle of the Bill submitted to their Lordships, but also to give them an opportunity of examining whether or nut it might he possible so to qualify the en actments of the Bill in the Committee, as to en -able their Lordships to agree to the second read ing. Now, as to his declared opposition to the Bill on the first reading, he begged leave to assure the House, that if the measure had not, as was stated in the preamble, undergone the gravest consideration, mid if his office had not been singled out from all which were held of the Crown as the one the occupant of which, shove all others, was not allowed to profess any but the Protestant religion, he would not have felt it necessary to give so early and deter mined an opposition to the first reading of a Bill which he earnestly and conscientiously believed to be dangerous to the Protestant establishments of the country. Having said this, lie begged to be allowed to address a few woods in reply to the re marks which had been made by the Noble Earl who spoke last. That Noble person had declared his positive conviction that sooner or later the pre sent measure, or one of the same character, must be carried. Be it so : but he should feel it to be his duty as a servant of the Crown, and as a zeal ous lover of civil and religious liberty (the protec tion of which liberty he thought was comprised in the protection of the Protestant establishments at the country), to oppose the introduction sod progress of any such measure. These were hi" feelings and sentiments on the question before the House, which he maintained, and would continue to maintain, through evil report and good report. And if his opinions should at ally time be overruled by the opinions of their Lordships—if it should et length be proved that his opinions were founded on fallacy, his consolation would still be, that having erred, he had not done so without having taken all possible pains by labour and study to prevent it. He now came to that which he considered to be the proper business of the night. The question had been argued with little closeness as to the present Bill, for that was the question for their Lordships. Could they pass this Bill I—was this Bill tit to be adopted N.-. were the qualifications of this Bill such NS the House could approve of ? Because lie defied airy man who professed any knowledge of the laws of the country to say, that the Bill could pass. Such was his sense of the measure before them. It nos another question, how far the Bill was capable of being modified. It was said, that the advocates against the Bill were continually changing their ground of argument; he thought the assertion might be turned against the advocates for the Bill. It had been his unfortunate duty to oppose this measure in whatever shape it had hitherto appeared. His notion of the present Bill was, that their Lord. ships should not go into a Committee upon it; he had always been of opinion that the advocates of the Catholic Claims should not require the House to go into Committee upon the subject. But if they thought they could safely alter the essential fundamental pnociples of the Constitn. Lion, they should have prepared a proper measure for the purpose, and submitted it to the House, and by no means to have trusted to the gathering of opinions on the *object which the discussiores• of the Committee might afford. He complained that by the language in which the Bill was framed, a march had well nigh been stolen up on the House. He did slot charge this as an toteo tion on the framers, but no language could he better suited to the purpose. Adverting to the appeal which had been made to great men who had advocated this measure, his Lordship observed (with deep emotion), that no man living entertained a more uffectionate regard and unfeigned veneration for Mr. Pitt than lie did. fu COIIIIOOII with the country he owed him the deepest obligations; and if after the Union with Ireland that great nsan had been able to prove to him that ample securities tes, HOUSE OF LORDS, TURSDAY, Aram 17. 4 ' • Their Lordsll;ps met at a few minutes before four o'clock. CATHOLICS. The LORD CHANCELI.OR presented Petitions from different Parishes in the County of Leicester against the ' Claims of the Roman Catholics —They were severally read and laid on the table. Their Lordships then adjourned during pleasure. At Ben o'clock the LORD CHANCELLOR resumed his seat on the Woolsack. Mr. Brogden, and other Members of the Milne of Corn. moss, brought up the Irish Judicial Officers' Bill, and several private bills, which were read a first thus. The Bi s hop of ST. DA VI Int presented several Petitions from the Char, of different Parishes in Wales, against the Claims of the Roman Catholics, which were severally read and laid on the table. The Earl of DONOUGHMORE rose to correct two leo portaot mistakes, which had iii•deertenely crept into sense of the leper's, of what had fallen from him last night. First, when he presented a Petition (rum the Catholic Warden and his Clergy of Galway; and when he adverted to the Reseda lions of another respectable body of Catholics, those uf the County of Kerry. In both cases the parties objected I.i the part of the Bill which restricted the intercoms, with Rome, whereas the reports inailvereently stated both to he in favour of it. He was also represented, at the conclusion of hie speech, to have stated he had no objection to the Enro— -1 whereas the greater pall of what he said was intruded to re probate that restriction, as entirely unnecessary, awl consi dered as a hear, and unjust inflicti DDDD upon them by the Catholic Clergy. His Lordship added, that thou,rb 'landing as he did with the public as the advocate for this measure in that House, it was important for him to have the grounds of his argument correctly understood, yet be felt himself no less bound to state how joist a sense he felt of the general accuracy of the report of their Lordships proseediags topaz that important question. ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL. The Order of the Dry being called for resum ing the devote on the above Bill— ! The Bishop of Sr. DAVID'S rose and said he objected to the Bill altogether, as being impolitic., for it appeared to him the oath provided to lie tekt.n by Roman Catholics recognised a Foreign Power, and if parsed into a law, it would do away with the highest prerogative of the Crown. Ile objected to the Bill, because if passed into a law it would be pernicious to the Constitution, and the only security was an oath, which no conscientious Cathceic would take. Hir objection to the Bill might be put in a few words, which were, that lie objected to the principle of it—for he contended that persons who were tinder foreign influence as to their religious tenets, ought not to be admitted Into power in the State, &c. as they were not in a situation, from that foreign influence. to take the oaths required of them. Under those etonsidera lions, he (the Rev. P re l a te) cons id ere d it his duly., to vote opium the Bill. The Duke of YORK rose and said, it never had been his wish to intrude on the attention of their Lordships, unless it were upon a question similar to the present, which, in his opinion, was of the greatest importance—fur if the Bill passed into a law, it would he doing away with what was done in the year 1688, which secured to his Majesty his throne. The present question and the prayers of the Peti tioners had been under the discussion of their Lord. ships, and, after full consideration, their Claims were disallowed—snd on those occasions he had always voted against the Claims of the Roman Catholics, and the more he had considered his votes the more he was satisfied with them. He hoped, although this was his opinion. that he would not be considered an enemy to toleration, as it re gelded religious sects, as lie wished all classes of persons to worship their God as they pleased, if they did not interfere with the Established Church. These were the opinions he had formed from the time he was able to judge for himself, and by those opinions lie was determined to abide. The Earl of DARN LEY, in rising to support the motion, wished to state the opinious which he had uniformly maintained, and upon which he had act ed in deciding on this question throughout the course of his public life. He expressed the deep and heartfelt regret which he suffered in having to oppose his opinions to those of the Illustrious Duke opposite. He boasted, however, as well as the Illustrious Duke, some experience in the deli berations : he had read and considered much in re lation to the subject ; he had been for many years in the habit of discussing it in a parliamentary man ner. From all his experience, lie had only derived our conviction. The more lie heard, the more he read. the more he thought, and the more lie die cuamd it, the more was he confirmed in conclud ing upon an opinion diametrically opposite to that j ust po w pronounced by the Illustrious Duke. On former occasions, when this subject had beta brought Curward upon the individual authority of the Peers rho had, from time to time. iotroduced it to their Lurdships, he hint refrained from giving any opinion troop it, and left the discussiou to ti,ose whom he hisrl supposed to be so much better qualified ; but wheJ lie saw the opinions—preju dices he must call them. which had prevailed against the Catholics so long, gradually dispersing sod giving way both in this couritry and in Ireland, he thought it necessary to declare how far lie differ ed from the illustrious Duke and those able persona to whom he was opposed on this question. He ex pressed his satisfaction at seeing the arguments of those who opposed the claims shifting their ground from time to time. as the increare of wore liberal opinions dislodged them from their previous stations. He declared his surprise at the speech of the Noble Ent who spoke second iii the debate. He could not help 'Woking of the times when a British statesman had thought it a merit to declare in that House, that lie would not have in Its estiablisliniesit a Popish man or woman, or Popish dog or bitch, a Popish cat, or any other living thing connected with Popery. He was 'Mid with regret and rurprise tit the observations of the speech of that Noble Earl to whom he had •I lotted. He could not conceive how it ratite to pass, that at this time of day Catholics s h o u ld b e charged with u want of principle whichco rin could tot be bound by oaths, when it was evident from all GRAND RATIN ORAL FESTIVAL. AND MASQUERADE IN HOl4Ol l ll OF HIS MAJESTY'S BIRTH-DAY. 'NEW ARGYLE ROOMS. THE PIO laity. Goatee, nod the Public are moat respectfully informed, that a Party of Gentle men' intend 'Joie g a SPLEN DID MASKED FETE, under the moat distils? 'wishes, Patronage, on THURSDAY, the Uih April, 1821, on the plan of the Continental Carnivals, and superior to an ty that have hitherto taken place. The above e legant suite of Roos" ea psenliarly adapted for an enter. *Moment of the I and. have bees engaged expressly for the oc casion, and will f arm a promenade of the most spacious and elegant descripti. tn. Oa the stage of the theatre a M erica' Soiree will be gin eels, consisting of a pleasing variety of the mast admired Bs bade, Duets, Catcher, ke. and occasionally interspersed with Fantastic Dances, National Exercises, Ba bineine. Pusateri' se, and Feats of Legerrlimain, by Artists of the first enlist nice. Some of the principal Performers of the various The sires will appear in Characters of every Nation. Quadril tea, Wrongs, Country Dances, will, in ap propriate Saloons , agreeably enliven the scene, fur which fire complete Bands r Music are expressly engaged, including two celebrated MI diary Bands, in full uniform. Farther parties tars will be immediately announced. The whole wader used irectios of Mr. W. Quick. Tickets of Ade/. Ossion lf. 5.. each (to Melo& Sapper and with refire , Imenis of Tea, Coffee, Jellies, Ices, lac.), to be procured at the following places :—Mr. Hookham. Mr. Fullmer, and Mr. Gosling, Bond-sheet; Mr. Fentom'r, 78, Strand; at all the r Masquerade Warehouses; of Mr. Whit taker, 78, St. Pau I. Churchyard ; at the principal Hotels and Coffee-houses ; at Quick and lAwler's, Booksellers, 9, Old Brood-street, City ; and at the Argyle Rooms. e. 5 Private Be .stes fur viewing this splendid Entertain. meat lay be bad an application at any of the abuse places. 01.0 VER'S EXHIBITION of OIL A. and {VAT ER COLOUR. PAINTINGS will OPEN at 16, Old Bend , treet, on MONDAY, April 30. Ad. pinion I..—Catalusee Id. At 115, Ludgate -hill—To-sorrow peeitively ! wit► gy Cuts of the est onisblng Cariusiiies sad Creatures ! only a Shilling! iIIONE'S POLITICAL SHOWMAN—AT HONE! eabibiting his surprising Artilleial Cabinet. and the Wooded's! Beasts and Reptiles—all alive! alive 0! .......c oos,my• ~meet .1411, alikallr. ANN& AIF O 4 • WWII persons of great talents usaintained the system of exclusions, when he had accounted for the effects produced by the force of prejudice and professional !laterite, he thoug ht it evident that the preponder ance of talent was on the other side of the question. Prejudice and professional habits had in some cases made the most respectable members of that House see the dangers which the Catholic religiou was sup posed to threaten to the Protestant Establishments in a distorted, a magnified, ass exaggerated point of view. He saw no dangers at all ; but if they existed, they were not of the magnitude averred by those who perceived them. He read the opinion of Burke upon the objections made on the score of danger to the admission of the Catholic claims, who described them as the reattlt of unworthy fears and prejudices, which no man would be able, much less willing, explicitly to avow and describe to any other man, and which were indeed incapable of definition or description, even in the minds of those who en tertained them. He might he expected to explain the sort of danger with which the State was sup posed to be threatened by those who opposed the Claims. One of the consequences of the present Bill would be, to admit the Duke of Norfolk, Lord Arundel', and four other Peers, to the possession of their natural birth-right. This was the only im mediate effect which the Bill would have. Would any one say that the throne and the Protestant suc cession were endangered by admitting those Peers to their birth-right? He rather appealed to the House to say if it was not a reproach to the age in winch they lived to see the Noble Duke to whom he had alluded sitting night after night without the limits of that House, to one of the first seats in which his natural birth-tight entitled him ? Were the six Catholic Peers he had mentioned the Cala hoes and Cethegoses who were to be so dangerous to the Canalisation and the liberties of the coun try ? The question had been argued as if the system of recto * from Parliament was a part of the Coostitution, which had always existed, which was coeval with Magna Chorea, and as v.lid in all respects as the most estimable principles of that Constitution. He could not see what advantage could be derived to the Con stitution by the exclusions ; lie could not appre hend the danger which would result from admitting Catholics to a - eta in that or the other House of Parliament. He and Lord Fingal held considera ble property in the county of Meath, in Ireland, where there are more Catholics than in any other county. lf, through the superior influence of pro perty and talents the chief member of Lord Fin gal's family should be chosen in preference for • represeutatise, he could see no danger or in convenience to which the Constitution or the Legislature would be subjected by the return of • Catholic instead of • Protestant Nobleman. If experience should spew that the dread of Catholic influence was well-founded, the Legislature would still have the roil in their owls hands ; the maio rity could for many rare remain Protestant. If the Catholics VllOlllll increase their numbers and in fluence in Parliament, it would be no great diffi culty to repeal the Act which enabled wens to sit there. They would have a right to do so, and they could never want either inclination or ability to etilorce that right. But unless it could he proved that the Catholics would have the power to prevent its repeal in the some degree us they would have the will to increase their numbers and influence, he could not see how the Constitution was to be en- On Satz:vd, ty will be published, in tiro. Ms. INO F ALI ERO, DOGE of VENICE: ITiiiiir on nistori cal Tragedy, in five Acts , with Note s . And OPHE CY of DANTE, a Poem. By the Hight Hou. Lord BYRON. P r inted fur .11.1 Int Murray, Albemarle.street. BRITISH AND• FOREIGN BIBLE SOCIETY. EI E Seventet nth Annual Meeting of this T Society will be held at Freemasons Hall, Great Deem sh eta, Lincoln's Inn F eldr, ou Wednesday, the 2J of May. The Presid , nt will take um Chair at Ekren o'Clock pre cuely.—Ladiss cannot be ad. gifted. JOHN 0 WEN. JOSEPH LtUtiH ES, ?Secretaries. C. F. A. sTONKOPFF,I 'lt; Attendance will be given a t the Society's House, Earl-street, Blackfriars, on Saturday. Monday, and Toes ay previous to the Annual Meeting, beta een the boors of Ten and Four, to issue Tickets for the Side Seats and Galleries to Ministers who aro Subscribers to the F.ueot or Auxiliary Societies; and In the Presidents, Y.ce-Presidents, Treasurers, and Secretaries of Auxiliary or Brwach Socittiesi sad the Presidents of Bible Assotiatioas. SUPERB NEM SHAWLS. --The beautiful New Seranspore Shawls and Scarves, % which BROWN sad CO. 15, Hetirietta•street, Covent-garde:.have Nu 'lured This ibis Spring, are now much is demand anion the No bility and Gentry; they are of an exceedingly lied and (hi rable trainee, and the nearest approximation to India of any yet uced, price G Oa. to 15 /. Norwich and E. 1% shrug\ Shim* prod from 251.; .Z.litto, Satin, Damask, Tissue, and Terms Silk Starves; Embroidered Damask and NNW CMOS Crape Scarves and Shawls, in various colours, and every umber dreeription, psi table for walking or full dress, which are now prre•trnt in the higher circles.—An extensive col lection of novelties is beautiful rich Silks fur hlorning, Evening, and Fall Dress; also for Prlisses.—Ready mosey only. CONSIDRABLE R CT EDUION IN PRICE FOR THE DRAW E ING ON THE ' 172 n MAY, ALL IN ONE DAY. Duly 14 Guineas for a Ticket Chance; only 20 Shillings for a Sixteenth Chance;, other Shares in proportion. TWO of 21,0001. besides 4,005 other Prizes or 4,0001.1,0001. Ice. der. Consols and Money, sure to be drawn 17th Stay, b !sides the additional Chance of 100 Numbers for Two of 211,2001. •,,• Every Cls.usce b.,ught on of before 17th May, is sure to I.e decided 17th May. N.o.—No Classes! r very Ticket to be drawn singly, de. r,diue its ewe fate and pir other. The Tickets are iaioie a in Chmires of Ticket, Half, Quer. trr, Eighth, and Si teesth assure., whorl, are pelting by T. BISH, Stock-broker, 4, Coruhill, and 9, Charing-cross, London, and by his Age ets in the country, who shared and sold in the last Lottery, 2,053, Clays A-2,888, Class A -2,888, Class 9—TH R Eli of 21,0001. •,,• Schemes, %with full Partieulsre, retie. MA HT I N and Co.. 8. Cortibil I, unit 120, Oxford street, request Hu 4r Friends will tall for a SCHEME of the IS F.W Lo TERM at either of the shave Offices, it being impossible, withis she limits of an advertisement, to point out the Advantages of Purchases made before the 17th of May, the day the Drawing continence+. Tbe prim rrpal Pelmets of the prament Lottery arc, that Two of 21,0001. Two of 4,0001. Three of 1,00 0 1. Commis, be.rtdes 4,000 other Prises, are sure to he draour the first day.— Every Chance bought uo or before the 17th May is sure to be decided 17th May. )lo Claimer.. Every Tisket to be drawn singly, deriding its own fate, and tin other. The Tickets are issued in (Utters of Tirkr t, Half, Quarter, 1.:14ht h, sod Sixteenth Ch. meet, which are:4ll'l'g by Id A it- TI N and Cu. 8, Cornhill, s nil 120, Oxford-street (and by their Aceiit4 is the Coontry), w ho shared and sold in the two last Cuutraetswww.Plo, 2,053.. 121,000, 1,172. • • 20 3 200, Ste. ace. , ; st,nc 4 „ • r I : • • • i , I , . I ; .. 1_! Paws 7d. • j' • ~ . court be obtained for any concessions which might be made to the Catholics, lie would have been one jof the fi rst p ersons to p ropose th e yi e ldi ng o f th ose I concess , ons. But that great man newer did—never could prove to him that securities could be ob tained for the Protestant Establishmenis. And yet )Ir. Pitt had always admitted that set:inkier were necessary, cod that their Claims could not be granted without them. That great mass lay huri•tt with others with whom his Loirfship had conversed on the subject, in the ashes and sepulchres of mor tality; hut there were many great lert.--Iliete his Lordship referred to some Noble Baron then tit the House, with whom he had formerly similar cotiver satins*, and who bad made the sense sort of 'Wails sionsl—All these persons had acknowledged that seculities must be obtained. They had telt with him that it was not necessary only to conciliate the Catholic mind—they must also quiet the fears of the Protestant mind. Had there ever been any securities proposed which the one would be dis posed to ask, and the other party feel satisfied to give? He should not insult the Catholics by re quiring such securities as to his mind would appear sufficient, nor on the other hand should he injure the Protestants by asking them to make the greateet concession., without receiving iu return some ade quate security. He was also quite ready to admit that if such a Bill could be passed consistently with the security of the Protestant Church, nu restraints ought to be imposed opon the Catholics. He Ismenled that upon this great questiou be should be obliged to differ from Mr. Pitt, with whom he had been in the habit of coocurring ira ether matters of public interest; but bring deeply impressed with the conviction that, upon this point, • that great man was mistaken, he should not satisfy his own conscience if lie did not maintain his own opinion. He always felt that one of the first dotirs of a statesman was to maintain the established reli gion of the country. Possibly this sentiment might be attributed in him to narrow pmfestional views by those great ai.d enlightened statesmen who thought but little of such ootioos ; but lie should not, on this acconnt, be diverted from his conscientious feelings of the necessity of pur suing such a principle of policy. He conceived that it had been too flippantly stated that this question had nothing to do with religion, but in his mind it was intimately connected with the safety of the religion of the State, and the question assumed a deeper and more serious importance when the tendency of the Established Religion of this country was considered in promoting the wee. fare and prosperity of the State. The effect which the pooping of this Bill niust.peeesearily exerting upon the situation of the Protestant Dissenters of every class, had not been snfficieutly considered. If this Bill were passed, how could Parliament for an instant refuse its assent to the repeal of every low that affects the Dissenters ? How could the Test Act be maintained a moment if this Bill were paned into a law ? He should abstain from making the slightest allusion to the various occurrences in this country in which reli gion was concerned previous to the Reformation. It was sot until after that period that the question of foreign influence was involved in the considers tion of this subject ; but no man could read the statute 1 Philip and Mary, c. 5. and return to his closet without forming in his ()owl-in:id • fixed resolution never to suffer this country to again en- • dure the humiliation of being reduced to foreign influence. Had their Lordships read the Ist Philip and Mary ? He would recommend them to read it ; he had never met with a man who had read it; but if any one would take the trouble to read it, he would feel such a conviction rush upon Ins mind as would make him resolve never again to open the avenues of the Constitution for that hungry lion of Popish influence to enter. As to the oath proposed in the Bill, and the terms of ac commodation proposed, and the limits described as those intended for the sense of the Supremacy Oath, he wished Noble Lords to consider the common Law O.th of Allegiance. Sir M. Hale's interpretation of the Oath of Supremacy was. that it was intended as no more nor no less than an oath which had become absolutely necessary to explain that • man could not have • civil dis tinguished from a religious or spiritual allegiance, and that it was intended to unrivet all those errors which had crept in, and explain that the duty of allegiance extended to all the civil and religious establishments of the country. As the oath was stated in the Bill, it appeared that it was intended to undo the purpose ascribed to it by Sir M. Hale. His Lordship here quoted the celebrated extract from Locke's Treatise on Toleration, to chew that the Catholics were wholly undeserving of toleration while they admitted the j u ri s di c tio n of • for e ign Power. The chief reason for passing the Act of Supremacy appeared to be, that thoogh the Re formation had made considerable progress at the time, it had not gone far enough to leave Queen Elizabeth without • considerable degree of annoy ance and danger, through which she had great difficulties to shape her course. Hence Ids Loid ship inferred the admonition which preceded the sth of Queen Elizabeth. To his litter asto nishment, he found that the preseut Bill dracribed that admonition as giving a clearer exposition of the Oath of Supremacy. Those who said so, or the person then add ressing th e i r L or d s hi ps . did not understand the fair meaning of laugusge. The Oath of Supremacy then was to be changed. It was maintained that the Protestant Church was suffi ciently secured by the Act of William and Mary, by the Act of Union with Sem land, and by the Union of Ireland. He was ready to erect° thesecurittes athord ed by these means, if they would permit the means to exist. But what was the use of unions or perch- ments of tiny other kind ►f they took •..•y every thing from theta noted the whnk bons were to be the Cathohce were Supremacy •s it rm rystioi iu ler ainu U triey LOOK •c • j I but the declaration, if they re- e machinery by which the condi- : effected' The Bill stated that ma now ready to take the Oath of wee intended to be taken, with% mitten of merely religioue belief. $1 , • I