The Statesman. — London, England, 1812-02-25 00:00:00

1 is i ~: 1i A I 2Ws G, a the !e l / 4 .._SiltitiM:t ;WAX 'was a favourite topic for eo amationy much talked of in popular.msetings. There 'w* of 'rperioe iliore anxious thee he was to act' Up 'to th •principles of the Avt of Settlement. Het the cone . ; try was not in these** siteation now.as at the tital when that. Act was passed. 'fhis country: r ho theis • should resort to the same means for resisting Muth. parte, as he employed to overthrow its izrotpetity.WM.. • .power. L The forcing into his service the men of,every counter ta.whleh his power extended, was one of those Infant!, tind, he could see no . .objectiop . apiusg .recurring to the t essistance of the same, by if MAIM endeavouredoto -extend his domination. It was . measure of neoesalty, and he could not therefore c donut it. • Mr. CUR. WEAN difapproved of the line of argil.** - meta adopted by the lion. Gentleman who had last spoken. lie thought it • should never be allowed to gn abroad to the Public from that House, that under • any circumstances the law could be dispensed withi or disregarded. Mr. M. MONTAGUE was conviucei that tht Id' ip,the .Ropl Household, and about his Majesty's verson. ibis o ffi ce was cyfferelit. The objection to ratite grant was stronger from the possibility of reward, rill a manner perfectly unnbectionable. Entring upon a new reign, the Sovereign would have it in his Fpowe - kfroin the increased splendour of his establish. I ment, - fo reward the services of the gallant in an ample and dignified manner. disclaimed arty share of private feeling operating on his (Mr. Moles) condact as if he acted from that'attachment to Re solutions in whicit he had so great . * share; he felt not ~the-least hurt on that account; but if, contrary to kis expectations, /he youse should vote against . the •Amendment which he' was about to propose, nothing could prevent its being followed by this interpreta bon, namely, that the House had abandoned all the measures takes to enforce economy, and that all dis cussione et to our revenue were at an end, and that full liberty was given for every sort of irregularity and profusion. He concluded with moving an Amend ', ment to the Resolution,• the effect of which was, to leave out the amount of the salary of the Pay masterto the Fund for the Support of 011icers' Wi dows. • Mr. CHARLE S ADAMS thought the Hansa Pet at liberty, in this nnyner, to depart from their Re solutions ; the Resolutions were the recorded opi. nion of ie House, and had been acted upon : that to pick and select some to be observed, and others to be violated, Would be unwarrantable ; it would be i better to reject them altorrether. • 1 Mr. MAWHEW Mti-NTAGUE, allowing every degree'of credit to the Hon. Gent. (Mr. Bankes), and admitting the purity of hit motives, still he was of opinion that . others who thought quite differently with him on the subject before the 'roust) were equally entitled to credit for the purity of their mo tives. From the extreme anxiety :with which that Iron. Gentleman examined. financial subjects, and from his strong end laudable desire to promote •economy,. be thought? Ms mind had received a bias, which made him =wine. the present subject with too much jealousy. lie would not be understood as speaking spinet economy, he knew its importance, law did autholise such a measure. There coup. -not be any danger in employing a limited number of foreign troops, particularly ut present, when the ether military force of the country was so strong. • —h was impossible that such troops could ,now be .eutployed to answer any purpoies of arbitrary power. Mr. FREEM ANTLE said, that our regular ar. my tad been increased only 1900 men last year, while the additional expense, on their lativat, would amoupt to nearly 600;0001. Lard PALMERSTON said, that there wasan;iti crease of 10,361 men in our land forces last year, which, with certain charges, which had been trans-^ /erred from the Adjutant-General to the Qmtter- Itiastee-General's Office, but which were not in creased cinrges, amounted to the sum alluded to by the Right Hon. Gent. . .• Several Reserutions were then rend, and whets the Xisairmon pat that for the Payment of IVidows' Pensions, • Mi..IIA.NICES rose, and desired the Cleik to read the. Report made by the Committee of Finance in 1782, and that of (be Committee of Military tn quiry made ht ifkitt, respecting the, office of Pay. master of Widows' Pensions, in order, he said, that posterity might know the reasons which induced the House to the determination to which it should that night Come. The Resolutions having been accord 4ugly read, the lion. Gent. mid, he could scarcely see any reason for his adding one word to the emphatic Resolutions just read against the continuance of the sinecure appointment of Paymaster. The very exist ence of the Resolutions was a sufficient ground to justift. the Rouse in calling on that Minister who had dared to disregard them, to account for his conduct, in tilling a situation so strongly recommended to be abolished.—[!/ car, hear!]—lt was a stretch of of he.wfor Which the acuteness and ingenuity of the Rt. lion. Gent. could scarcely furnish any palliation. Haring stated the steps taken by the Committee which had drawn vp the Resolutions, and their ap probation by the House, and that it had been deter mined to pass a Bill grounded ou those Resolutions, he endeavoured to obviate an argument used on the • opposite side, namely; that as this sinecure.was em bodied in the Report with others, and was intended to be included in the same Bill with them, that, it, would be irregular to attack one solitary case be- % fore Parliament came to a determined resolution on the whole ; but this resoltition he argued was al.. ready given, and as to what had been said of abandon. hog the decision of Parliament, and that no blame was to attach when suds delicacy had been observed, the same answer equally applied, as that decision had been sufficiently manifested by the Resolutions : the ! second and third Resolutions he thought strictly ap- )ilicable, and that nothing farther was wanting. — The Minister had admitted his responsibility, in I such a case he necessarily must; but is that suf ficient---had he taken the responsibility ?—But had he taken that responsibility on himself in such a manner as to shield his Royal Highness froth all imputation ?—He thought he had not—and that 1 in the manner in which it had been done, he must , necessarily be implicated : considering the relation in I which dm parties stood, the length orserrice, the known and well-merited attachment, how .could it be thought that the, Royal Master of such a servant would not be implicated ? The motives which direct; ed the conduct of the Minister upon that occasiot4 he supposed to have a greater regard_ to self-iateiest, than for the public good. Was he not • Al* Hei l feeling of Parliament and the public opinibet: by itig action, when he must know that the blame rrtfa si*t to fail upon himself alone ? Was he not trying twit ; If any obloquy pith , arise, his. Mord' Might fully participate? By-the. situation in which the House was pl ace d, h e f e lt grea t difficulty .witiVl respect to the part lie weta t r a act. Did the _Right non. Gentleman think there wa s no di ffi culty :Was rtpoot a most unpleasant task to pass a rote which would imply a degree of censure where libne , r i m Ft e m the vilified rank and mint Pritiel toes of his keys, Highness, f rom hi s high' sens the great merit. of - the gallant Oeicer, from.perto , respect, he Nand great difficplty iu stirring the Lion, What Imgerted him to move' in it ? Nr but a strong fostkk of Parliamentaryduty. It obtruded on blelile the wiatiner'it is; If did wow for via* lOW Padismoittary gape; if • -4.5. • , .. • , ;. • • 'ilk not a law, and a Minitt f vas not to look upon that light. The /I,ol4l.ntleils have not even pow throesk Oa. uacessaafitess before the Heinle alif were not, therefore, to be insisted on. Mr. LOCKElART,.agreeing with the last speaksV • - maintained, that , 1 i.. ~'..~. ~.'~~. 4 re kAL ,_ 771717 .ZW / rlgg i '.4 .+ 1 • ; '^ nom`, , - , i but there were lines of demarcation foie drawn. The i mau who had just sat down seemed to forget, in the good of the country equally required that the Prince I course of his speech against Sinecures, that he himself should be in possession. of his just Prerogatives as I held one; there was, however, a material difference. the People of their rights, and one of these, and oflbetween it and that which was conferred•on Colonel the highest consequence, was, the ability of reward- M'Mahon ; the latter was the reward of long and big public service should remain with the Crown.— ! faithful services, the former was received when Orb The Resolutions confined the sphere of reward toot. Hon. Member was a mere school-boy. He willingly . much ; and the species of merit was too much con- I joined in the deference which the House entertained fined - . Parsimony is not economy properly under- ' for the motives of the Right Hon. Gentleman who stood—and no money so badly employed as that p ; brought forward this Motion, - but he thought it which is prevented from being employed beneficially. I would have been only fair in him to have done jus [A laugh.] lie thought the Honourable Gentlemanltic e t o the mo ti ves o f hi s Ri g ht li on . F r i en d. The deserving credit for his schemes of economy, but . Right lion. Gentleman, when he used the language thought, on general principles, that the present grant r of coafidenoe and friendship, should not have inter-. was perfectly regular. The reward was well earned, I mingled therewith the imputation of courtly obsequi aed.the object fair and legitimate, such as was proper i ousness ; when he descanted on the subject of debate to reward such a seiwaut. He admitted that it was a; in expressions of this nature, ho should have omitted Sinecure, since . we are talking of Sinecures, b u t it I those compliments to the purity of hi: Right lion. was the plain meaning -of the Resolutions, that the '• Friend's intentions, which, when paid in such a man- Sinecures were not to be given ap till some other me.' nor; he (Mr. F.) could not deem sincere. He was thod of rewarding merit was provided. For such lan- 1 - sure that some great perversity existed in the treat. guage as he was now holding, men were some times iment of this subject, for, after the declaration of his abused, but he despised popular clamour, and thought I Right Hon. Friend the' other night, he was accused himself as true a patriot as those.who,make the loud-1 of having determined to give away every sinecure est professions of it in popular meetings ; it was not ; office, in spite of the recommendations of the Conn unisail to have recourse to such abuse, but he de- lmissioners of 178. i. Vicar, hear !] if the state spised it. It was right that men who wasted their hments which were made could apply to men in office' spirits in the service of the country should obtain lin a time not so particular as this, the terrors which .their reward.—[.t laugh.] He considered the sub. seemed to be entertained on this subject might be ject a grave one, and wished It to be treated seriously. I warranted, but he was convinced that his Right Hon. Many kinds of service, besides military, were deserv- . Friend would be the very last to expose himself to ing of reward ; should such services go unrewarded? ! the liability of incurring the imputations which had, But, it is said, there are pensions, but when that. been thrown .upon him. It was argued, that this fund is exhausted, it was not our duty to withhold . proposition was an insult to ParliaMent and the Pee. rewards of another nature. The argument of the i pie, and that it was dragging the Prince Regent. Honourable Gentleman was in opposition to the I through the dirt ; he asked, Did the way in which purview of his own Resolutions, for those Resole. ! the office was given occasion that assertion ? Was lt' tions implied other means to be provided ; .until such ian insult to the Prince to advise him to reward a I were.provided, it was 'evidently right thst those Si- man, who, having access to his Royal• Highness ftit necures should remain. That Resolution, eves if years, was never Anowik z te . abuse the ear of his, taken in the sense which • some would give to it, was 1 Prince ? So far from' - ' ---4 tint insult, it was antici- being _ path% the wishes of his Royal Highamii in an honourd, able es/inner, The oalrgiestirM to 1* considertik i was, whether the sum was* be refused, for the pur pose of furthering the grist object or economy The case should not be prejolged. by th e House ; it . be . -t.-" V--. . , - . - i• - -` , .• • - . . .. . . . • , ..a. .p,r,"i , ‘; „.. ",:-,:•":-- 3 _, 1 4 4 •?. • . ' .. ,4, , .• : . .- %. ...• , • . . . • . . - • . . . • , . ~.1.....p5e precluded from con- th a t f ew wou ld agree w i t h him in that op i n i on. It I time of retaining this I was of far more consequence to consi , lcr the principle tbject ; but he thought I of his Honourable Friend's objeceou to the vote been too much drawn ' than the circumstances of the particblar case. Ma o comparatively' mit litlll.l4md been said of the recommenthuien of the Commis. ' •' . . 1 simian of the year 1782 ; he ,recollected that th e itll 6 4irta I 4 I support "Commission was composed of men who were not 'ere 'net sent there, he MeMbers of Parliament, in order that they might ex. of an accommodating', erciso more independence of judgment respecting the of men who sacrificed ! Offices which should or shoeld pot be abolished. Thus country. The cha- i formed, they commenced,thoir entleiry, and thp pub. lever be surrendered, 1 ,,1ic well knew that they. recommentiedAbe abolition of these. Were the ac- ' this office as bein o ri f ie r i t i o a ma to.u ui: a r s t iies..whlbien ini decay of trade,. and the t. yearFa . .."'d - r• • a ----- • ,s to be the grounds upon ;value of the of fi ce had incr eased, 14s ::: iti f 7: ed Constituents was to be! atfolished,• a 'fresh lease, as it were . , wasgrauted.-. 'duty of thicHoese to [Tire great'point was; 4 tl ee iat ,. t a re o w f: a t s ri • e. sonse ,sdur t c h e i ngfr.; l •l7, of Princes, not 'mere 1 the nattree i of .the the Princes themselves. ; whence its emoluments were derived, was the object of this iit most obnoatous to public miderstatline. =s _ a n y man, but thought t Pidon, and obloquy. If e principle of the kind laid I to, and the establish.; down by the Honourable Gentleman Was to be ad. nient of the Prince must have afforded ample means. i mined iota the , public expenditure, theee . w as no There were other circumstances wbiciecalled for the I knowing 'Whek it would end, nothing could be more attention of the House, connected with, the grant as .• fallacious' ley extravagant. This country enjoyed a much as the grant itself, namely, the time at which it ; larger portion of liberty and order than any other In was made, during the prorogation of Parliiment i the civilised vi rtu ; but, wienicdeformity.'wes why not wait for the meeting of Parliament ?—The i found aming its s, it was always dwelt on, end Chancellor of the Exchequer, at that time, might be r jade a subject of animadversion and eisesnre. At a considered as a Minister on trial e it was in defiance !time when the vessel of the..'tate shilahl hnlighteied, of the Resolutions of theileuse, but it is said that it ; they should eat endear Out,, O4 lt; by putting i n was not done in opposition to an Act of Parliament ; !f res h t o wh ees . H e . keety: . purity and honour of but the Resolutions of the House he considered of ; his Right Honourable Friend (the Chaucellor of the equal force In this case. • Such was the weight of I Exchequer), but he could not help deeply . regretting those objections, that bethought the Minister weukulitter be did not see the danger of measures of thisde havepreeluded the necessity of a rote, by cancelling seription, and their: openness to,invidlous construe the 'appointment ; he had net dune so . ; but, if he ; tion. In times likethe'present, it was the ditty of I hid not done his duty, that was no reason that the i the House to do away those large blots which' wire House should forget-theirs. iso liable to be pointed at. He Maintained that the Mr. MORRICE argued, that as there was no Re- . 1 duration of this office, which had been long since solution passed for the unqualified abolition of sine- ! deemed end destined to annihilation, should not be cures, that their establishment must continue till i defended' by particular arguments. lie gape bis sou some other mode of rewarding merit is provided. most heartily 'for the Amendment.' , The House was called upon by the Amendment, to Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that win . rarlia: I , give the same authority to a Committee as to the en- meat passed the Resolution which bad been Ito often tire Legislature. Their Reports were not the sub- 1 1 alluded to, they did not moan it as a diredioe to the ject of an investigation. The office in question was I Exicutiie Government, but as a guide to their own a fair subject for regulation, not for abolition, and decisions. This determination was coupled with the that was the language of the Tenth Resolution. lie condition, that whenever sinecure places shoullt be justified the muffler of granting, and maintained abolished, a countervailing fund was to be vested in that the prerogative was as much au object of Par- the Crown, to enable it to confer rewards on merit.. liamentary solicitude, as economy. If clamour be Parliament being thus charged with. the selesetion of ill-founded, itwas not to be attended to. He voted the offices which were to be abolished, any luterpo, not from party motives; it was well known that in sition on the part of the Ministers of the Crown would most great questions he voted against the Minister. be an usurpation of their rights. This was the case . The question he thought by no means of a serious of the Widows' Pensions; the subject was' forced ' nature. Too much of the time of the House had ppon the attention of the House ie the vote of the been already taken up with it; it was a matter for Army Estimates; but he did not think that the wish regulation, not for abolition. which had been manifeted by the Hon. Gentleman Mr. HOLMES SUMNER, contended, that if te- who brought this subject forward, of takingaway the gulated, the salary should be about 4001. per an- emoluments of the office, and leaving the exertions of num, in the place of what it is at present. He would the person who filled it without remuneration, was rather advise the abolitionof those sinecures, fuel consistent with the mode of Parliameutaty proceed that Parliament should be trusted with making a sub- ings. It was not right to cast in this way a censure fieqltent provision. upon the Executive Government and its Ministers. — Mr. FITZGERALD said, that the Hon. Gentle-. He gave every credit to the motives .of the Hea. - - Gentleman ; but under the eircunisteaCea . 'Which he had stated, and giving no opinion retietiihgthe cone tinuation of the office, be wettleth Vialist•the Amendment. , . ....'' Mr..D4.NliEri . ixplalnecl. •:- • • . , General TAllLl'lreg• Oidi. ( h ll 4sie 4°ll l. which:COlOnel M'Nfahnet deserv-xity e , fdr i o sense and-martial courage,. - eenderetPltim wigrthi of holdingn high rank in the army;' WWII . I 'rettiftg. his being placed in a situation ,which-tetfosed'hter'k. the obloquy of the House. LoOtibg to 'altthe ar-_ rangements which had lately taken place, he could not avoid coming to the conclusion, that-the poises., sign of power is an intozicaduz thirig—[s lauf4]. The CHANCELLORof tbe-EXCHNUER oh.; served, that the lion. Gentleman--wh6 had just sat e down had declared his opinion that Colonel Ill'hitt. , bon was treated with great unkindess in having thig office conferred on him : he could not see the hard ' 1 ship of the case, for the gallant Colonel Was at Libor - . -ty, if he pleased, not to accept the o ffi ce; Ile feared , !however, that he had incurred the Hon. Getitletnateg, political hostility, by recommending him to the go . vernment of the garrison which A...4*n hild.--z -[Lou d cries of hear!) — The Honourable 3 lombe r for Yorkshire lamented that he (the Chancellor) , did not see this question in a different tight. if he I l agreed with him in thinking that all the dangers at, the country were to arise out of this sinecure, he would have considered the propriety of not taking the opportunity of advising that It should be regranted ; but as he saw the suqect differently; and as he thought that greater dangers would accrue to the State from declamation of this kind, he could not but approve of the line of conduct w hich he had pursued. The Hots. Gentle man was generally cousistent in his arguments,which bfollowed with, as consistent votes [Mar, hear 11, ut he conceive d that, in this case, heldid not act or , oesk as he was accustomed. With respect to the -'ort of the ' Imissioners, he did not know wlie Cam ~.er it was to be co. as }mei since Parlia ment, during so lonz,a period, had .uot acted upon it ; but if this office. bad been so pyticulaily de nounced, !A • hy was it At abolishedbreill, as other' sinecures had been ?' One observation was made, " Ti said That it would itl sinemort. . _ in thegeneral line of his arguments, ...._ . not . , contended_ that tie em-olumenis of the' whicikras' tether Strike. . wits _ ..„, ___ , the prerogatives; of the Crown were to be suppertedl o ffi ce were to be taken from the objects of the Royal 1 • have been much fairer to have granted this office to as careful{ as the rights of the People. He defend-1 bounty; nor could it_ilil 114 1 ' .grOullth, be urged, i some Of his political - friends; be , h owever, thou g ht ed the conduct of the Minister in granting- the place: that the obje ct o f th e jiggl e s wa s t o a dd this 27001. that if it was to be granted at all, it was aiost pro under a condition ;, if he had do ne o th e r w i se , - be'! ayear to e WidowsiPensions, at the expense of per to advise tlutt-it should be .conferred on a per. would have _gone contrary to the sense of Parliament; Dimling the first sot of his Royal Highneseb reign : son who had particular claims' on thz. urgent. Ile 1 but if he had not advised- the filling It up, subject to "with tiensare. . I thought that it was . not constitutional to • reward that condition; he would have opposed the influence : Mr. M e DONALD, in explanation, c- stated, that the services by votes of Parliament instead of. groins of Of..thOCrown, where nothing final had been settled ; jr&hicl observed the true medium, and was free from siuecoro which he held was one of the least ohje : the Crown. • He again stated his readiness to tali° tionablenatere; its emoluments did not arise out of ; upon himself every responsibility for the advice which ,' . blame 'on 'every sidi. .He thought there was some the public Puna, but from Individuals who accepted ha had given upon this' subjec t ; and to Sinectirm in thing of party este:log into this cinestion, bat :hisipithile oWees. Wheneter an example was set of giv... l general," be thouet that one was not more ohnthilas fiete Should be free Iron any party feeling, and given 14 up gowns of every kind, he would readily fel- ! than another, . • only fiorn 'a sense of dot y. • • • ..., I( -• it g bet ha would r- -- suffer fife aninsadearsions I Mr.llOllE S I:MNEit. said, a few -wards in ex- HERBERT, 'of Kerry, - __ - . - ._ • ' ---ve' - .. . i,,. . . . . .. - • ' l l-1F S' 4.' ' - • ' A 6 . .w. , . •• _ _ .•. . . . ... - .. .. . ..- - . . , 14 ' • • jtictioq. lie was not ft war e o f the ii i iegklity alluded not make a p art of Estimates, which they . .. k • ng... , . consider himself to,by the Noble Lord. The 97th regiment originally to examine, he himself would have forbotreputti • ..- 1 . ~ ,_, opriety at another • • sisted entirely of foreigners, and there was a spe- was a distinct subj, • 5... 4 but as it was thus before the House, they tisust :, • .• 1. ~ Act of Parliament allowing the enlistment. He with it accordingly. One thing deserved the e. ,„.„.. _ •Ow of Parliament had b , uk. i ' ii„ , --Jec-s speaking coin *Med to know the name of the foreign General 1 deralion a the House; that the vote upon the present' to t commanding a district according to the representation I question would shew their sense of the,tesolutioss. er •• ; • nce. 4 of the Noble Lord. . ifeelfoets off seu beenelid+o9o: L. .'•-. • i NALD spoke with Lord FOLKESTONE said, General Baron i 4 t a'cllNi'hall , NW° If irkslasiov, !YE ~ . Anieevid , ment. They were 1 singen. eisi• th4r oet ioeg t .wirole Iportfr fools ~ he . 'toelkt the obsequiousness c o : • Lord PALM ETti'TONE replied, th at he setwesist avesentOras II ra aft'si stance 6T tlibee ne- • Miu ter, linens the successors of Commander of a district, but Superiuteudaut of the cures described b the ~' _ Mut to the goaref th e i r pabTO . - sit* tie 'reason %ill ;actor of Parliament should ne depot of foreign troops. _ , • • Load FOLKESTONE observed, that with re- Minister shoulstiveilluitsitTiO,l4gtir final kon-: bit isartitubirly-in times like tl . i ili...tis theakct of *Parlierinosit, lie mould advise the ferring placeiof e n simitar description, not, 'pre I curaulatton . of taxes, the d ecay Noble Lddotittil.,.4l.,.. ? o std...h.e.,ss-s4sA imsrlhe. . taiilit.soaderisaval-ehaikke prefertrlt title b.n. ' other calamities of the times to 1 rriretronlrer„. 3 • 47- giveii,= - iks fTrreet. . Ile had de- tered into the contr./0040h of the Committee which which their duty to th e i r Cons rived hislblallinietioii. c infg- Cruets!' Linsingen, I drew up the H.eselutionee,tatnaintsio that it was ne- abandoned ?If not, it w as th e .d ' merely from the Army trst.,, ft#,,,,the,psFtice of air I cessary tivet,ein,Sinecure.Oleerof iv nniure such al I read a lesson to the advisers of -.pointing forreigiets'at othb 'die Ciniiinand - Of Eisilisl l this. Irts case wait:lade •out, and, it was a strong 1 useful to the people than to the _Sroups , , t was ikviglaticnic'gilaa, .1 414 e, provisisall o' one. It never hid Trielivildc.liit (A by the Committee, The high services of him who w 4-- s 7,Ae ,Act . of sefliemesst., .. . , '= • ' 3 ' ' that cifficeS itt willirfirib salaries and no services motion he admitted as full' as at 1 Mr. 4..A.MnE Itnews that the eni?loiniellt ot(lkk were annexed altoolll,..,bo",ietained, with the exception other Means should be resorted Y I • I • • .. •S • VV . _ - - -•• ...AA __.l .. • ....••• h:a Mo;aafti , e relent of ihs PAilna .....• L 4.4 I •4 vf 4: r • r • • • • 6 \ • 11 , T r • 1 fir: • ..11 ote which only from a sense of ditty. s 3ne -should - Mr. HERBERT, 'of 'Kerry, • - • low iit but he would never suffer the alimadreisions i Mr. "ROME SFMNER. said, a few words in ex- I spoke 'on the tam of , is Lord.of the Treasury to alter either his opinions Vanation. incely vir- side. ' . . -i• • '. 0 7 kle 41.44. i . . • .-. ,‘• . . . r 4 - Mr. WIIITBRESTYstated, that he would be glad i sense 'of Mr..BATlll.Jafrtknelpit was igkilipts nefiren• jgrarrir 1 in.persv!ial view of theitqed to Ti..'bettliatt: if to dtO asaftliew the, AO • itgit hor tt • - • • •,licipiplanation,_ that he J, to know whether, when -41- Hight non. Gentleman leibliewoog ,'s holdiscat a.aine , recommended the .appolutment of liis lion Frie 4 "the fines- present question. „Ti goostiasAsetinat thl4 letais . cilill' . ' . Nothl4 was, whether sr to /be ivt,..3l,lkifise in ' liiijitio.:: in i pilithnii Or theist view. (General - Tatleton). to the Goer ,Aseat of Berwick, 4 lf not . is - obieried, that <the. Han, Ihe was actaatpd by , thadeaita of rewurding hii lai- r. .. luti on was td be 111 1 011; im: yWntifir 'die ephiaa-vate.ta f ' ' r .. Fit zgera ld) m oo r ed to think that all : Lary services, qr ,Ity a Irish of . procuring bit Perlis- it' did not be abolished; au* all 1 1 / 111 11 1 itimettlf•P es filjaa; A atasiata plaibe wan preeletled4r6a . . giving)iilentirr sitpfo:(?---11 the Right Iron. Goutlemaa 11.6......* ... : A ;,, If it Aid Oft Wort tolkartsra'afri ill rigialibr the Alai: , ev er, 3 . ' . O. Mi um all the I w€ On jel tin al b ti