The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-07-04 00:00:00

I . • • v"'" ..;3°.a4MENr. --...-- HOUSE OF LORDS, WIDNZSDAY, JutY S. The Brightos Harbour Bifl, the Metropolis' Police Bill, Rod the Roasted Curn Bill, were read a third dine, and passed. The Irish Land Reveries Bill was read a second time. The Irish Exchequer Olices Bill and the We Coals Regulation Rill went. respectively through Com mittees, aed were reported.—Adjoarned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. At four o'clock there being hat twenty-nine Members present, the SPEAKS, declared the house adjourned till grow (this day.) 7U THE EDITOR OF THB STATESMAN. London, July 2, 1822. Stn-4f the profitable employment of a people con stitutes the wealth of a State, then its prosperity must he in the ratio of their employmest; but, as shoot two-thirds of one people are destitute of inch employment, and another portion of them starving fqr want of wages to pay for subsistence, it proves that such a community cannot be in a state of prosperity. Again, by the same rule, that our population eon tioing of about 18 millions, produced. in 1815, about 49 millions of revenue--revenue being prodweed by ieviiimptioa and occupation. while about 21 millions of tbe like population, and from the same taxation, produced only about 51 millions in 1822, when the three millions of taxes laid on in 1819 are deducted, there most be about six millions sterling short this year of a sound production, independent of the accu mulation betwee,it tie two fends, which, io addition, would amount to shout 20 millions, consequently, the stomachs and backs of onr people are not so well sop plied in 1822 as in 1813, which proves that our re venue is derived from capital in Ilea of income, and which eau only last alefialte period. The Chancellor of the Exchequer should explain himself on these points, before we cal believe his &Denim's, that the country is in a state of prosperity. Your very obedient i s A FRIEND TN TROTH. qrtay.—By the came role, the Chancellor of the Exchequer deducts property sod war duty on malt from former years' revenue, should he not. add the three millions of new taxes laid on (I believe is 1019) as well as those levied on the poverty of the people through the stamp duties, aid on the capital of the leaded• in during the last three or four years. These, together, will exceed those be has taken of as wet duties. • • ro roe EDITOR V' THE STATESMAN. Stn—Your Madness in inserting the following re. emirs on the istentian of Ministers to reduce the Difteettnt on Stamps, to the great injury of the Lou d** Dealers, will be esteemed a rimer by A CORRIMONDINT. • earo r streetoltbl T 1, 1822. a ors-- -Sra ) : 3 ;_ A "'"', o .l " t h ' s g entectiou of Uotruteenoat than 'inortensitalearStanaps to the Loudon District ; oevertlieless it seems as if they , were selected out for the purpose of oppression. The writer of these re mark. has ever been a steady friend to the Cs:restitu tion and °overman of his country, but he cannot aser the present intention of the Legislature with re gard to this Bill without considerable dissatisfaction. it is so injurious in its tendency to a description of people• who not only employ but expose to conside rable hazard an immense sum of money. which is drat placed by them in the bands of his Majesty's Bache goer in the purchase of stamps. The chief motive, I believe, intended by the passing of this Bill, is to re duce the present small and issufficient discount of one and a half per cent, allowed to the public on all sums of M. and upwards, (paid at on: time), to are per cent. but on which so - allowance is hereafter to be made, under payment of the same sum; add to which. all ed valosedi duties above IV. is intended to he wholly taken elf, except with regard to probate duties, where they are to be allowed to the sum of 4'W. which is meant as an accommodation to his trace the Archbishop of Canterbury, who is particu larly in d therein. The great objection which this body of men bare to the intended alteration or reduction is the discount is evidently most just, and should call the attention of the House to their case. la the rrst instance, therefore, they claim its attention on the consideration that they take to the Stamp Of fice frequently three or four times each day, a large sum of money, fur which they are quite unable to oh- San prompt payment from their correspondents, by which means a great facility is oftentimes given to the completion of business where expensive duties are required, and which would, In many instances, be pro- Seeded were it not for the Statineer's capital. A gait advantage therefore is by this means derived to the state by the advance of these sums, which is fre quently totally lost to the vendor, but on this head (though too true) it is not now necessary to dwell. If his Majesty's Ministers wereto consider the jus lice of the case, and the true advantage that would probably result to themselves and the country, they would propose in lieu of the above, a discount of two per cent. to the country distributor, nod at least the same to the Londoe dealer, instead of giving three and (our per cent, to those distributors, who do not advance a single shilling to Oov.rnment. until I be lieve the end of each quarter. The fair dealer and supporter of the r s in London, is therefore sub ject to the inconvenience of having his country con respondents accommodated by the country distributor with the dudes because they are allowed by them, as is now pretty generally known, nearly one half of the discount which the Lords of the Treasury are so libe ral to bestow on them ; an evident proof, were there mi other - reason to In assigned that the allowance granted them is not only much more than sufficient to repay them fur services that might be performed by a buy, but sufficient also to distribute a very considera ble sum amoog those that purchase of them. Whilst therefore the London dealer is injured is this unfair traffic, the revenue is also suffering a most serious in jury by encouraging a greater sale of Stamps at four per cent, to those agents than they do the stationer, who pays large sums of ready money, fur which be only receives at the present moment one and a half per gent. r~eswryJ r_fygi/ItT, WINO - ' • • ,,sr r • , Iffe rr, 111. 1 All. foe. ARIL I Dahlia -- 0 0 MIMS. ...-- 0 I Waterford - 0 If Umbet • - I 1 4 t3.4t Jersey ..' 0 - 1 "Pans ..: 0 • a ' Lisboa - - I • 0. ~ 1 11101019. - • .11- . 0 Uottemberr 9 • •Ik t jasslia.., - -" 0 4 x' • PRICK OP STOCKS AT C Risk Sleek 9W 1.1. Ct. Red.... J 0 7AIBO per Ct• Cosa .. 31 per Gent. 6 0 .1 AI 07 94 New Four. perCest.l797. Le0g448.• • 9Ol 7-16 Imp. 3 jorC:l Irk% Sem Cent • Mg O'CLOCK. THIS DAY. Mk Stmt. • DON Deeds a. a. 41 pm Soots Sea Broth Sea Old Ago 11: 1 13d . 0001 1111 . is pra port Sp ar Se. po. Coo. for Lost SIB SI SI Lott. Tlaketa sit. Ns to teontan. _ " TER BRITISH STATESMAN " IS IWCOR rrAtiesumg." wIT* "TUB LiINDONr. THURSDAY ITCHST4O. JOLT 4,182 t. • STOCK EICMANSIB,' Trfipiz "blocs. There is very little Itasinies eoasols are now 81 to for the opening, and for Asyut 81g. — Reduced 791 80. Owing to the King of Spain's anew to the Carus. Spanish Bonds are greatly iwdemaol; most of the Brokers ■re buyers. New York Papers, to the 11th of Jane, mina t. morning, from which we extract the following:— Basset.—Our Correspondent of Baltimore bulb roared as with some extracts from the Rio Jasehis Gazette, of the Iflth of February, from which it ap• pears, that the Prince Regent, determised on litre /acing the constitutional system, bad called a Coanal of Procurator's-Oeneral of the Provisces. The rani - bates of ;hit Council are thaw defined 's-Ist. To give me advice wheserer it stall be orders/ by me in any matters of great importaacs aid difficulty. td. Te I examine the great projects of reform to be made is the general and particular administration of State which may be communicated them. 3: To propose to me the measures an .plass which may appear to them the most urgent sad advantageoes for the welfare of the United Kingdom, and for the pros. perity of Brasil. 4th Every one of the members is to advocate and watch over the Interests of his respective Proviso.. The same paper coataius as ordinance di recting the Provisionary G meat of the Previsces of Pernambuco in the !Vest of the arrival of any fresh Portuguese troop., not to alfew them to disembark, bat to intimate to them a deternsisado• which had been formed, that they retire to- Portugal ; the Pro. visionary Government sopplylo . II••• MI „ to the halted Provinces of the River Plata which sated is the libitaties a.Pore, and was at Lima io October last year ready foe eill‘ vice :—.lnfantry, 3251.;' l eavalry. 931; Al4lller)% 1621 Chief, and Offleese. 2IS ; Total, 4562. Paris papers to the 2.linst. have arrived. The only iotelligenee of ioterest they cootain, is the an- swer of the Spanish King to the Message of the Cortes. It is as follows : " I have received with the greatest witisfaction the message addressed to me by the Cortes, in which they express their respect fur the Constitutional throne, and their desire to contribute to the felicity of the monar chy. These sentiments, Et becoming to the Represen tatives of the Spanish people, afford me reasons to hope that the first powers of the State acting in coa-ert to put an end to present evils, and to avoid those with which the future may threaten es, the agitation of the j public mind will subside ; the hope of overthrowing the established system will vanish, and the nation will enjoy all its benefits in peace. " The prospect presented by the restoration of the Constitutional System in 1820, was no doubt promising, as the Cortes have stated; but it was not ditlicolt to for-see even then, in consulting the history of nations, • that an immense difference would exist between pro claiming and consolidating liberty, and that time alone, assisted by prudence and constancy, would be able to correct the accumulated abuses of 1 centuries, to connect in the same uniform plan the various branches of the public administration, and to raise the opinions, the interests, and the manners of the people to the level of its political institutions. "It is not in the power of the Government to hurry on the natural course of things, nor tp avoid the evils inseparable from great and difficalt reforms: but I do not hesitate to assure the Cortes that I shall make all energetic use of all the means, faculties, and rights with which the fundamental law invests me, to cause it to be religiously observed, and to remove ilie larstaCles which may oppose its firm consolidation. " I rely on the co-operation of the Cortes to attain so important an end; on tbe wisdom anii perseverance which characterise the Spanish people; on the enthu siasm and bravery of the army and the militia, on the influence of public opinion, and on the support of the immense majority of the nation, seeing with satisfaction amidst the grief created in my mind by the events which agitate some parts of Spain, that experience confirms the grounds on which my confidence is founded. " 1 flatter myself, with the resources decreed and the means placed at the disposal of the Goveronient, that I shall soon behold tranquillity . re-established in Spain, and the attempts of the enemies of the country frus trated ; and this without having recourse to extraordi nary measures, which, seldom necessary and often dan gerous, are always a proof of the impotence of tbe ex isting laws. " In extending my authority to all that concerns the preservation of public order in the interior, and the ex terms! !Safety of the State, conformably to the Constitu tion and the Lines. 1 find all my rights and obligations comprised within that general basis. Faithful to so sa cred an engagement, I shall spare neither efforts our sa crifices to render my Constitutional Throne, in all times and under all circumstances, the rallying point of all good Spaniards. In vain shall the sacred name of Religion be in voked to seduce the senseless; is vain shall it be at tempted to confound the banner of Loyalty with the co lours of rebellion. My subjects shall listen obediently to the voice of their Monarch ; and in the contrary case.. the sword of the law shall force back into the path of duty, those who would persist in their criminal wan derings. " The Cortes may be certain that whilst I shall la- . . " I• • 1, of bear la malotahl tranquillity. the thief feuadation the islevoal prosperity of the State. I shall canes its dig lity sad its rights to he respected in our foreign rela dome. asavineed as 1 am that it is impassible the inde pendence of nations should be attacked without Injury to the authority and Algaity of Monarchs. " I rejoice that is eircunioances like the present. iliten the spirit of seditiOn strides in every direction to loisteed the simple inhabitants of the country, and to ovate dangerous altercatioas. the Message of the Cortes seetaid have procured me se public and so solemn an op portit of reiterating the expression of my sincere ~that the Spanish nation may consider the rights of the Throne as a pledge and a guarantee for its liber ties and its glory. "Art:Aires. Jose 18. 1822. " Letars from Madrid. of as late a date as the 23d tilt., state that the King and the Royal i Family were to make their entry into that capital es the 27th, through the gate of Toledo. His Majesty's intended return had bees a aaaaa cid by a message from the (internment to the Cortes. Notwithstanding the or der of the French Goverement for the Spanish re fugees to retire from the frontiers. letters from Ba yonne. of the 25th ult.. in the Constitatienuelt as ses nce that they stll(lingered or re-appeared there. and that some had paseed into N by the valley of Bastanne. Nothing worth notice bas occurred in France since the date of the last papers. A disposi tion t• insebardpiatioa displayed itself amongst the Students of the • Polytechnic Scheel is Paris on the 30th alt., but was immediately suppressed without any interferenee Os the part of the military or of the Goverament. • _ PROCEEDINGS IN PARLIAMENT. In tun Gans.—Souse Bills went througletteetain stagen k wkhout any debate whatever. In Van Horse Or COMMON', the Speaker took the chair at four o'clock, and there be *sly to:musty-Rise members present, out of the As It roared and fiftreight.' - the Hoes. adjourned.—A Reformed Parliament would Sot carry on in this sort of way. More than tweatr eine Members oat °Lail huaired sad fifty-eight would meet. If the London Press Were to de its ditty strict• may is speaking of the more esealiir of going on of this Heusi of Parliament ; of the, leave daweenoat of It, the people would have something to tbank that prose for. This demeneoar is perfectly . matchless. The world has never seen or beard of is a thing be- fore. We wish the whole N ation amid see the thing with its own eyes, and eagewjally.nt liter. +s Bills are passing. affecting the Pied • Ws& et' the people. However, the pewits gees taie the matter pretty well now, - they see, this Whims beds la the light in which they ought to see it.; that is to say, as far as they can see It, withoet settudly being perrantty present ti view it with their ewe eyes. However. we are not sorry that this Mash' , day at. twit ee the eppwiselog et *stet little tweso. 4 ol , • • • Speedo, aid ea the very pretty olmervatieWs sue% eMas out, or it were Incidentally, on the subject of redecing the interest of th e debt. The Risgieter et sett Saturday will contain a tell exposers of the snatched JOHMSMITH, and that of Mr. EDWARD ELLICII, who has, by his friends, the rich ruffians of Coventry, been 'held forth as • second Socoalow. The speech of this 34..atawaato ELLten was Dot noticed as it ought to have been; for, certainly, it stands not low upon the scroll of fame. It will be recollected that the CutNrcu.na of the EXCLIIQUER announced the intention of the lt.atk to discount at four per cent. This we said was a preli• minary step to the reduction of the interest of the debt in some shape or other. JOHN SMITH. (one of the CAR nixoroN's), said that be was for a redaction of, the interest, by meats of as operation • to raisc the feuds; but not for a forced and Amu/fa/eat seduction. He was for inducing the landholders to take something less than the present interest. What did he mean by inducing? The Acts of Parliament say they shall have five per cent. If you give them , less, you reduce the interest to be sore ; and as to induciog them, suppose a friendly society, for is- Stance, to have a thou mail pounds sterling deposited in the funds, and yon give the forty pounds 'year instead of fifty for their thousand pounds; do they not lose ten pounds a-year ; and is it not atrociously wicked to pretend ; is it not fraud beyond compare to pretend, that It is any difference to them whether you raise the funds to • hundred or let them fall down to twenty? Though their stock; we mean their three per cent. stock be not at eiiley. one, in place of being at its par value of sisry ; do they get any more than the three per cent. fur the sixty? Do they get any more than five pounds in t on every 100 pounds sterling. of principal. They know nothing of stock-jobbing ; they know nothing of selling out and buying in and chopping and 1 1 changing. They know nothing of the tricks of Jew. and jobbers. They put their thousand pounds (like fools as they were), into what is called the funds. If the Locus poens were to raise the things called the three per cents. up to • hundred and twenty, these foolish friendly society people would not get any wore than their firs ponods upon every hundred pounds sterling that they pot into the funds; what infernal no. guery would it then be, to give these silly people less than-fire pounds in the hundred for their money, an der the pretence that their principal had increased in amount by the rise in the funds! This was not the sorrof reduction prayed for by the men of Kent.— They prayed for •just reduction; and. of course, a reduction, that by its discrimination, would prevent the infamous robbery of friendly societies, and such like persons. But now let us hear Mr. EDWARD ELLICE, the ('o• ventry gentleman ; he said, that, " be had Lard much _ !Wog ' 7 1 0 7.11.. ~,~, UMMIWIP”"' - , .. • • . t • rig .---- " of a petition presented to the House, praying for a ". reduction of the interest of the National Debt. Ile " was net surprised at inch petitions. although ke " residue: agree in the prayer., because if Parliament " °ace broke faith rite the public errditor, there " would be no end to the violation of contracts. He, " however, agreed that the bicolor of the landholder " was iacreasiag. while terry othr r ipterest ICIls de " creasing. la 1814 the public creditor's property, " the three per cents , were sold for 531. per cent. and " geld was 51. per ounce. At present the three percents. " were 811., and gold 3/.175. NH. per ounce. The Fend. " holder's property was disabled. while the farmer's "bad decreased is the same proportion, or rather on -6 nihilated by the .mirconduct of Parliament. The •• House ought to look into that state of things with a " el, re to redact the National Debt 6y some fair moo " tribetios. . When the landholder's property doubled " while the farmer's was entirely destroyed, he was " sot surprised to hear the latter petitioning for re " duciag the income of the former, anti at the sane "time bisecting their owe burdens. A relief ought " to be granted in the remission of taxation to the ex " tent of the surplus of the revenue beyond the, ex . 6 peediture." He had heard of a petition ! If be had been in his place when it was presented, he might have shown, if he could, that the prayer of it was not what it ought to have been, which would have been mach better them to say that he could not agree with it, bad to charge it with proposing a breach of faith with the public creditor, as has now done. Reimer, let as bear what be says shout the matter. Let es boar his arguments against this Kentish petition. He tells us that the immune of the fundholders is lattreasinz, while that of all ether cl is decreasing. He puz• ales his Vain' about the price of stocks which has nothiag4o 49 with the matter; but he says, traly 'nogg* that the property of the landholder is doubled, while that of the farmer has decreased in the Same 'tie's, or, rather, says he, has been mainly , sleet Ile says this very p l a inl y , and y et he eta toi ' o r not • the prayer of the Kentish petition, and cbargp ik with aiming at a breach of faith. This would've)* strange enough even if we stopped here ; for cam it be a breach of faitl4.4o put things to rights, when the farmer is deetenyed by paying the fundholder the doable of what be unzbt t.s pay him? .6 Figure to yourself," said Mr. CO!CETT, once in a letter to his son JAMES, written just after the Coventry election ; '6 figure to yourself," said be, " a great fate faced boy of forty;" but where is the great fat-faced boy of forty that would call it a 6reaelkief faith, to re duce the interest of a party , wh.seeinte'rest Ind been ha adverteetly doubled by law. while the pa y payiee. the Interest had, •• by the miseoaduct anwat,"(for those are his very words), been d is the same proportion, or rather, tuseihilsted ? • Where is, welay, the great fee-faced boy of forty, who world attempt to maintain a proposidoe like this ? Bet this is not all; for Mr. &MCI himself is for a 1 redaction of the National Debt ! This House, he , says. 0 "1.1s. took Into this statitof things. and with a ;.. ....... reduce the Natiocal Debt by sprat rein win:- 1 , gsties." Well, and on what ground, then, de roadie approvenf the Kentish petition ? 1110}1lial you disap prove of its prayer? Come, discuss, as Pistol say; discuss; give us the why and the wherefore. What was the prayer of the Kentish petition? Why; it was fur a " jest reduction of the interest of the National ' 6 Debt." The very words were these: "and year " petitioners farther most humbly pray, that oar " Honourable Hoese will be pleased to a " jest reduction of the interest of the sal " Debt." And what do you want? Why,'" to reduce the National Debt by some fai r con tribution." So, that all the difference is, you have the word fuir, instead of the word jest, which latter is by far the beter word of the two; because it is not figurative, admits not of alley possible miscon struction; eonveys a simple and fausiliar idea; and was, In fact, the word of sit words. to use epos the occasion, though Mr. Hem:a:tau thought proper to cavil at the petition, and to call this part of it "crude." Crude, as it was, it has stood all the csneassiegs and eavillines of those who effected to dislike it ; and it places the County of Kent upon an eminence in the Dyes of the whole nation. That public spirited County; that Coenty so complimented by Lord CAS, 11, and others; so coaxed sad so wheedled with a view of turning it from its purpose, has :et an example to the country, which the country most fol low, and that speedily, too, or the total ruin of farmers and landlords is at band. Every time that County shall hear of schemes for redneing the interest of the Debt, so often will it have reason to congratulate it self on its contact on the 11th of June. Join SMITH the Banker has Isis seseme for reducing the interest of the Debt. Vou hate your scheme for re doeitsz the interest of the Debt. Hot root any of TOG invest a scheme better than that prayed for by the County of Kent; namely, 6 ' a jest reduction of the interest of the Delo." Yesterday the Marques* of Londonder►v, Viscount Mel►ille, and the Marqu-ss of Hertford had audiences of the Kier, when the latter delivered to his Jlajesty the Order of the (tarter worn by the late Marquess of Hrrit . ..rJ, his fllher. Soule of the Ministetill papers labsnr anxiously to 414Ve it helicved, Litt the advice of the Royal Physi, ions, Lad pretentrt! the King's intended visit to Scotland. Various ruition 9, however, aro stated to be afloat with respect to his Mjesty's sod denly ailiindoning his intention, after the tortual cow moniestion to the Lord Provost of PAttlhorzit• It it , said that his Majesty, whose own inclinations sroold hare induced him rather to visit the Cos:inept. having agreed to visit Scotlar•l, resented the ripitilty with Which the intelligence ut his determination was mo seyed to that country. . _ morning paper which had steed the illness of the Duke of Itedforil to be occasioned by a paralytic a tt ac h, observes to day, that t I . .lvolralaie feral v • copied f the Exeter paper :testerday, was at vali ance with the accounts received by his Grace's Mends in town. The •Vpaiinit Chronicle. of this day states. that by the arocients which were roc:iced yesterday from Devonshire, it WAS ni o that the Du:te was much the same, but ❑ut worse. His youngest sons left tows yesterday to juin the family. The Mar quess of Tariatock, and Lord W. Russell bad previ. .naly set off with the sawn view. ~-•~ I p , 4t. ~.' Ic_-%-- 4 - ,'-- ~- Y .' . 4 :