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• ~ i. .. • • tree 4.1110.11 ssa aistast parts of the country to attesa ataatisr. That eases toes butted so lest IMO Shi., 1 111$ lbws basest formers taw that rails met otarinit thew is MI 1•11 4 . takiag mum of slop hadmornme of the tenantry, aoA theesseisimig fo itevehe the whole of she presto race of farmers, is 4. apartment*. rbsty white they owe to shoo- Arlo, sod &ening, pol la Sims ommerritie einem of society depsiodant S. them for emplagnion bell angpors, to otdea veer, by every legal asenes, to avert sod • grarval calamity. 4 ma lo sloe hos Sessiems of Poliameal. essfiriete is ewe *Pluto, •f the ►espectaW Petition• mended, to the Le- Kintnere frees all parts .1 the kiwiloomot Select Cormasitire the flassiof Conmeine was appoiond, owl • diverted to itslitlwl hate the alkalies, of these Petitions; old to re. , part their obeervatione /herata.t• the Horne. "That the Repro, which .as wade by • majority of the said Committee, although allowing to detainees wood the distress of the tenantry ea alleged la their Petition, and admittiog the justice of their claims (which indeed it was impossible to deny), is ueseribeless a torosagThe i IN re*. suiting its/mat parts Wog se directly opposed to AN con seined in other rots of the ante Report, se to leave the present race of fanners very little hope of escape from irre trievable trio, Neese Petition, and in still greater num bers, be presented to Parliament I. she rosisiag Soave, ...Meg forth their dreadful and melancholy situation, sod praying fur immediate relief. . That the emit Report, at page 1, admits that, ' in their judgment, the cumplainta of the Pristiostem are feasisded is fact, is so far as they represent that, at the present price of yore, the renews to the occupier of as arable farm, after al 'osiers for the interest of his investment, are ►y as maims adequate to the charges and esti:Dins, of which a waiseidee able portion can be paid only oat of the capitals, and not from the profits of the te•astrye—thwe 'Mewing how ra pidly ruin is overtaking all occupiers of arable land. That the asid Report, as page admits that the. preemet oyster* of Cite Laws leads ' to aggravate the evil a scarcity, and to render more severe the depression of price from abundasee.'—And at page 13, it admits that should the average of the six weeks, preceding t►e 18th of August, he 801. Id. per quarter, fur wheat, whatever may be the abun dance of the forthcoming harvest, the purls and the ware houses of foreign awn will Le opened fur at least six weeks, and in ',terrace to the principal exporting comities, for Wee months thus folly acknowledgieg that the present Cora Laws are no protection to the British farmer. " That the Select Committee, at page It of the Report, • empress their meal meekly to ' suggest so Parlisnest, as • matter highly deserving of their future consideration, whe ther • trade is corn constant', open to all nations of the world, and subject oily I. such • Axed duty as might Mat prostate to the grower the loss of that encouragement 'which he received dairisg the late war from the ob-tseles throws is the way of free issportatms, and thereby protect the capitals now vested is agriculture from as inseam*, coMpelition is the horse market, is not, as • pernieurot system, preferable to that state of law by which the cora train is now regulated.' The Committee also add, that • it would he indispensable for the just rerrn. stun of this principle, that such duty should be colts. lased fairly to countervail the differenee of expose, itschid tee the °Misery vale of profit, of producing it in any of there countries from wheece our principal suppler' of ha Vries corn have usually been drawn, joined to the ordinary charges if cuaveyiwg it from direct to our markets.' Ilins lidinistiog in its fullest extent the principle fur which the dd. ferret A/Aeolian, Associ■tioaa have ■t all tittles contend ▪ •rl:—A dot, err aft foreign produce, f 0 art amyl* ar which ear own soil is COMffellial t equel to Ma dal/item:it Ys She expense of raising it, here and abroad. Thai after reading these arguments so ably put, and ao impossible to wrote, it is with the greatest surprise that we Awl it stated in the same Report, that by the present Coro Caws, there is an absolute prohibition against the intro duction of every deseriptiuss of foreign grain, meal or guar, tutu the consumption of the United Kingdom, okra she average prices, neeertained according to the mode established former arts, are below certain specified rates i• when is is treown, so far from this being the Cole, that any quantity, however ettlimited, of foreign grain, meal or flour, im ported previous to the shutting of the poets, is, from the mimeos it arrives, amalgamated with the Brinell corn, and inter into the elinsemptive of she Untied Kingdom foe mooths, nay, years afterwards, although the p. ire pity ban fatten fifty per eels.. belie such specified ratee--which hoe twee folly exemplified by unr having hurt foreign cars feat foe sale we the London market, fiom the 15th February, MIS, to the very day the Report of the Select Committee was made, 181b.fatie, 1821, a period of Nearly two years •std *half. Flat this Preting are the more surprised at this de- Striptiost of the present Curn Laws% au pier I, seeing that it is an divert upproaitien to the description gives of them is lime 13 of the same Report. v Th a t t hi s meesiog slro feel great surprise that the R. "Ferri sionold state that • the ruiumely low rites of agri cultural produce, at this wument, (annul be ascribed to soy attfleteterty to the proteetieg power of the law. Thai protec toral causal be ranted further than monopoly, and that this monopoly the HMCO. grower has enjoyed for the produce of sletwo last harvests.' When the very defkicarg its lAs pvio isidiep poorer of film line, which the Hub. Committee as trre!y •d.aat is. ! race 13 os the Repo. t, a. quoted &fere, was Ist'. advantage of in IRIS. when the ports coutimed nom for thrar mouths after the 15th of August of that year, by • very small races above the import prier, at the moment we were 'eloping an early and abmoilent harvest, awl when we did toot stand in seed of n stogie bombe! of foreign grain ; sad that in the 'militate of this meetiug, owe great.cause of tie orrice' 411 mm-sea the has been the immense iro purteltuu which then took place, superseding the use of au rms.! quantity of It.ilish corn, and glutting the markets of 1t.,, tosigdion oath foreign eons, comparatively untitled and * dated. 'That erre it possible ti take oncteath of all foraign produce imported fur tithe, one-tenth for the relief or the poor, rote-tenth for the repairs of highway", comely rates, church rates, lee ; a•d two-trathe fie the rummest of.the 'mania, debt, pay of army mod navy, support of Govern ment, sail so Furth; the British farmers would trot object to the wham/010h of all fureign pi °duce, duty free ; but till this hr d. e, tho y merely pray for such a duly to be Moored tab impurlatios heir, as may be equal to those expenses to whirl, nue own produce is 'objected ; so that the British mad I uangn farrurr may meet ma equal terms i■ the Boorish maakel. That the Report of the Select Committee, in briefly Noticiuc t h e r midert e e of slime of the Petitioner., who gave it • a. their opinion that a duly of 40. per quarter would be the lowest ...Isom, of duty stoat could secure the British farmer, stales as . ao objection to the prupoaitiou, that it would be a 14 .„1, i s u lt ~,,, except irs seesou• of scarcity. But that this me t tiug, a., far (rum thinking this an evil, suppose that e.t . a laws are ....acted fur this express purpose. Tney sn the some reafiimei iii this (yllllllll, as they fiud in the Report .of the Select (:romonittoe of the House of Commons in 1511, Mich sat u• tb,• same subject, the fullowiug word. um this ♦ery pasiat Looking to she impatient change in our silsamii, to the aensmianee whack we now enjoy, and to the great mil entensire improvement !nude is cultivation both here and so Ireland, yam. Committee cannot bat 'NOMA, • more that we have nearly stylised at that stale its a Nothing hut a discouragement said coosequeut fattiest u: 11 2 ota• ewe agriculture cam again strive ■s to the necessity Of I mg g so large imp ort...Mos of &mire eons, ItICEPT ■ovustUsett sgAraoxg, ahem it may be 'Necessity to 11111111 A tw ibis rewuter to rapid, the deficiency of our Own hareest.' " That although the Report of she Select Committee or Jell, in our part, retuallneudis a OVA duty as the best pos. Ode peartecti ~,, lie the agriculture of she United kingdom; ▪ be souther pees, it maiwadere the pressiet ammo wait for assitiog smelt alleratteel. It reconneude • cu•tiaaaucc sent ge *pleas 'epilog, however, that lite • should Ise homed; because, the Report schlg, that the duty Mould otherwive net ally check woulup i' id tits n aval Nye 1 Wiwi prier shawl I "St is slisissus Uri i 4 ~ ••••1• !NM was inaron% lOWA Oa tern thee, sot the ease them is the kept that sense measure wht ie he a . stelf is etaidoce to tisk relief or deliver- • aura. T• justify emelt • hope, aad to advsace the object of thaw who easettaiasal ha had ,sutures Hades* up the W- '16606. .h..d, god with yer , We( Ws. awe if* Rea, rtatri--aad tbe ~thy fiestlaisaa 'bra rtad the SA- kowtow " That at • matamit trio, isina is.. is gaily agar. mum RIP . . time with meemfiteteres, rests le port open • eaterwewsptisms of factel v iiiWie the ditties perk& en several marifaetter , ad ertightlellee• *formed I. e•••Xereel the entire duties ire emaimabsenpa ohne io this kingdom • 'Owl that this 41.0111.6 Ma doe tashasiodem eamorive, witinber *amities. ) , as is ease of the memalbelere 4 glass, or indirect, utease of ibesprosho i e se it stray he culled manufacture ws, it smalless as &femur se is the jimilee of their tlikillse We reimilri beemsea, if sV NA/eel foliation were sompail, 5a141111.1141/0111bIs le hares • duty on the pro of atelt-lonegnst at sorra (the mute . as we hops) ISINIMIHIIIoIhis dm paid, the price at which 1, Ibio smikstbed se sell his predate would re. Allditilillisid . ,,_„_ . • -, • •-• vim Ole easillai we of opinion that 40.. per quarter illlbildllloll led per cwt. au meal, end the amount of ditties its emegiserstml, are the term which can afford protection to the British forum; there Weigel hest that difference be tween she ant or predefine beer, sad the cost of erudite- Vow Here, together with the expellee of ronerying it from Owed, and therefore, according to Me admission of the - . riggraet,al page 16, they are only asking what they are fairly folilled tra. . ; 6 .` That it is clear, that although the rein in the lest place -Allert tail on the iceasstry, still it is out trim so, that as rent • i.lll l laely the surplus left after allowing the levant a fair re. .Itogtar his capital sod iedustry, it will mos reach the lead ... V at mid through them every class of aurrieiy." .lakee'imme parr, Lard EGKENONT rose, and observ ing' eel as so SW appeared disposed to speak upon this psipssishms, he wanted take leave to suggest what, in his opi nion, aught to be dine; be was net able, be was ready to sip. Os hie say jai *sem apse so king a paper, merely Iwo hushing ii ow wed, cad be presumed that the mese Istablinip Ind snook lissillos. Therefore he proposed that OW paper abode Ist. Owed wed published fur general cue eidtratiles, helper that se easy other meeting was called upon .11, derider to the propriety of ititadoptioe. In his opinion, la% le would be more expetheal to pompome say decision sem No subject of this meeting moil the spring, the MM. ass pled g in g itself that if, at that tinge, any prornbility %horrid of upeeieg the purls, is should immedigiely re-sseems Ole, re eider to deprecate such a proceedieg, while the ad. Jape of every other fliranet in the tointstry should alio for the same patron.; for he was himself tr i.l reL a :le .d d, " tbai theorising of the ports fur the import l oiters illpi awe would 60prioloctore of the foie of the cuss -one faighpi negbesseretbdolt bed sorb a great accumulation OW, Ilmaill fyissayillp p Yawls • supply at any price, IP mast servo Se deallnermtge nether,. At present, titimallat that madam" he der upon this sub- Sad he porticalselyoppessellio seiaresest of the opera ' Heft be • county wens", illisirirliellini particular good • giguld be expected. He, i !sew ef any ay frl ' Mesh from a county meeting, therefore, be had lung resolved never to attend oar or• them ; fur he found only plenty of talkers at such inertitics, while no deliberate cuts. a.derstiosi appeared, while so salutary effect was produced. Rut his objectless to a county meeting was peculiarly •ppli• gable to the present cure, which required merino sod cool in vestigation of various detail* sod ergosterol., before any satisfactory decision could be pronouseed apps it. The Noble Lard repeated his open., that say further proceed ing upon the question which bad nornibled the meeting, /held be postponed until the spring, before which the evil apprehended by the agriculturists could sot possibly Occur. In themes* time, he recommended, that Ihe paper which had been jest reed by Mr. Vinos, sad which, so far as he could understood it, appeared very good, should be printed sod published is the Newspapers, in order that all parties its needed should have due time to evitsider and judge of its merits. Mr. ELL%IAN, Jae. stated, that i.e had this morning received a communication Gam a Geatlemen, who stated that it was the intention of Government, early is the en suing Senn's, to propose the abrogation of the pressed Corm Laws, in tooter to substitute the imposition of a duty upon the import of fureign corn. This Gentleman was Mr. Webb Hall, who stated that he had received his intelli gence from Mr. Huskinon ; and here Mr. E. read an ex. tract from the letter of Mr. Hall. The intention of Mi. sisters was perhaps of the same uatare as that proposed by Lord Loudouderry in the hoe Agricultural Cuoinottee, namely, to reduce the trilportstor price to 70s. a quarter, mid to impose a duly of 15.. uu emery corner of foreign wheat, which should afterwards be imported. To ibis pro- position, however, the Committee did not attend, or at least so dertalow was pronounced upon it. Bat with respect to the Noble Chairman's recummeedsilion of waiting until the spring before any ;resort was taken to !guard against the evil of °pewee the purl., he rould out by ally WRNS ac. pricing in that recommendation ; fur such delay on the part of the agricultitrists would imply the desertion of their pas-band salary advocates, and especially of the County Members, who Ind so strenuously stood by them. Besides, he had retinue to believe, that early in the next Session a anima would be made fur the revival of the Agricultural Committee, and therefore it behoved the agriculturists to proclaim their opinions, in order to give support and coun t to such a mutios. It was also to be considered, that if the agriculturists should drier any proceedings until spring, and that the price of arm should get up, which, however, scented not very likely, particularly, because, room the very had quality ..f this year's growth of corn it could not keep, and must be taken to market within the year, to be told at any price list could be obtained, bow. ever low, they would hose the 'weeniest which low prices afforded at preseill 111 support of their preparation, as many persons might say, what do the farmers want but good prices for their eons, which they now have? and thus the adoption of any measure for the permanent relief and pro tection of the agricultural interest might be endangered. Mr. LAMBE thought a county alerting very desirable •pois this occasion, as the diclaration of such a onectiog, taut only upon the distress of agriculture, hot upon the gene. rat state of the country, must be so much more impressive titan the resolutions of ally parochial or mere district meet ings, This be keel" to be the decided illealleret of the tasters part of the comity, with which he was immediately connected, especially with a view to the adoption of a Peui. duo to Parliament, fur which he should certaiuly be an ad vocate, believiNg ouch pinions necessary to support the friends of agriculture, and to counteract the hostile influence sad active opposition which they had reason to apprehend. Mr. ELLM AN, sea. took ercasioa to ask Capt. Haviland, this supposing the present Stale of agriculture to continue, amid that cons shou'el too rise to such a price as to occasion an ()prolog of the po.ts, the markets being supplied with the 01.1 corn in conjuuction with doe produce of the present year, what was likely to be the condition of the Isbouring clams in She parish which he inhabited ? Capt. H Alfl LAN D answered, that he had no doubt one• half of the agricultural labourers would be reduced to a state of absolute pauperism. .. . • , .A 1 Lord EGREONT asked whether, if money were hod to employ those people, sorb a result 'veld hie apprehended ? (apt. HAVI LAN I) replied in the nifirmslive. Lord EGREAIONT—DO yea iamb She want of money sail employment ill this pita% to proceed from ihr falling WI is agrirolture ? Capt. HAYMAN D—Certaiolv. Mr. INGRAM—If monry wire rimed fur the employment of ileum laboureisi, du you Ibiok they 'weld be advan lawlessly employed! Capt. HA VI LAND—Yes. AMII there would he an wool of moor, to employ them, it 'be homers had sir adequate price fur their corn. Mr. HITCHINS enpressed or apprrheissi.m, that if no thing were doom for the agrarrissirosia us dem trerosom, and that all further proceedings erre to be pondpamed WOW spring, a great and general drapuoitries sushi be crested throoglenal the etioutry, sod model , all the torealeitaimees of She ease, he really thought it world be marh boiler to keep alive sow hope is the brute's of theme who *ere looat merrily owireriesg. lie. HITCHINS proposed, that the paper which bad bees ~.~~ W.` l ' 0 0 ' F • ~ ... , i be, • mat sa .„.„._ ales. that it weleld piper for general considers. sal sky ffilitrflied Itudecidiog Novo its merits. r. ELLMAN, saii, expleilliel his regret that he hail the misfeetaine to Alter bolo thie 'Noble Chairman as to the nipediosey of postposiog say proceeding upon this bust. sem. He, however, (naively mordant with the Noble Lord's . objrction to • comity meeting, espetialle spots $ question of this Nature. Bat if any proceeding epos this genstion were deloyeal. it miss tea oat misrepresent is the old adage, that we should sooty hove so dose the dose after the need was stolen. It was due, in his opinion, to the Repots of the Agricultural Committee, as well as to the duty which they awed to their owe falsities and interests, that they =dare mime opisios upon the merits of Hies Report, was all that the p a p er ow the table proposed. But would, I. his judgmeos, be more deliberately expressed by meetings is the several disoriets dill y, tau by a contresemo of the county at large, Sielt "' lion beteg seldom if over cemplete, and amity . 4 ,•_..°: the more zealous individuals from distant' ' - onmoty, whiled* nesse of the meeting usually I° ` tbe inhabitants of the district where suck meet i • .If, however, it should, after the district onset • adviudile to call • comely iseetiog, he bad fro , that the Noble Lord would readily coareso to roll IL - worthy Member theta proposed the places at which .go district meetings should be called, for the e.suvenience alb* genklanseie resichme iu the aqua! rapes. &no -swiatioNT said, that when he proposed delay, be same* .bat time should be afforded to allow Gentleness to monsider what it was mivisabie to de spot this traastetios. Mr. ELLMAN asked Mr..Donsat what was likely to be the effect of 000,000 pieriere of foreign corn opus the price of grain in the market at Mark-lase? Mr. DORMANT replied, about Bs. or 9s. a quarter is a productive harvest. . lb, ELLMAN *eked, whether the market at Mark-lase AWN regulate the several country markets? • vfr. DORMANT answered in the affirmative. Ilk. ELLMAN, juu. observed, that Mr. Hermes replies Alitileimed en eirerrer to the Noble Chairman's queetios as to Mega core. W EGREMONT said, that the worthy Gentleman was maw • imistak., as his questions referent so the qusutily of =actually consumed *WON the last year, which of fad, whereas Mr. Douses's replies referred On* to master of inference. Mileau.mAN, jun. observed, that it was the same to the fesimpinbuber 50 or 100,000 quarters of furtive corn were ffillififfiliffillc or reserved to supersede so much of our own fir having been proposed as lie place for • district - . ELLMAN, jun. observed, that that tows had • hod name for the farmers, who sewer west there of late ,is mho by compolsiou.—(4pplowee) It um mow* Mot it he recommended to the several dis trict meseings' so tionsider the distress et agriculture as well ne Obi Roused Matra the emintry. Me. BLACKMAN wane minmendoeni, which enotained ate allegetion to dimitirport of Me flgrieuhurel Committee, teamsly, " to cowesder of the isjaitice and injury east upon albastames..of the people by asnseettled currency." After baneinog et Mae cases of calamity which had been stated in the mom of that day, aid particularly of Englishmen, tom. palled from dire distress to entry barrows from morning till sight, with bells about their seek., he could not help ex. promiag his extreme surprise that a greater scope had nut been taken by the Gentlemen with whom Ibis meeting origi nated, Wall by whom it appeared to be conducted. He was surprised, for iiistasce. that no obeervatios whatever had boon mad% much less any propositios submitted, with re npeutat dime owe through whose evaded the coma, had hem eminesd to its present melancholy eondition.—(Ap pigrossi—Noe woo it even sulked that among all the Lords and COMPIONNIVO which t h is country contained, net one was Is aterodesmo'ist • toontong upon • mit:sties of such import. , mos bits the Noble Merl in the - Chair, who, so much to his NM honour, seemed by his pretence undue degree to sympa thise in the wants, or to 'alma oe much solicitude fur the interests of his conuteyineo.--( teed plesufifs)—But the Gentleman from whom this meeting emanated, seem ed to have altogether lust sight of the object which they ought to have kepi its view, and pot at all to have reached the rod, or conceived the teasel of the evil which they de plored, he they land set ever adverted is, !reload, where that evil was at present operating with peculiar severity. He was astonished to hear Mr. Ellanan ascribe all our distress to the low price of wheat, while be entirely overlooked the low prier of meal. Was he not aware that bacon was selling at 341. • poled, nod slat the peasantry of Limerick were is opine warfare, as The Courier stated, against rent, 'tithes, and tau.?—Did not the worthy Gentleman feel that the prioeiple of shut warfare was the same as that to which the complaists of this meeting refereed? Yet, the very serious disurbanees in Ireland had nut eves been mentioned by any precedint speaker who ',spooned the views of Mr. Ellmau. He agreed with the Noble Chairman, that a cow, meeting would ant be the proper place fur the ,liscessiva of a ease of this nature, unless the system and practices of the mew who had occasioned all our distress were also brought under ems sideration. The meeting had heard a great (1-• I about the high and low prices of grain, bat he had uniformly told the farmers that they entertained very mistaken views oral this subject; they were, indeed, always misled. They were told that their coeditiuu could nut be improved, untrue what was celled the oatmeal prices of corn were restored, and Mr. W. Hall described this sorra, price as that of 1813. Bet who mold troy any wan that natural price was, or who coati properly sepat•te that subject from the great mosey gum ties ? He had told the ferrous in that room, at the time the resumption of cash payments by the Bank was determined upito, to wait for two or three years, and they would will how merle, independently iof any reference to the import of fangs nun, their produce would he affected by that mea sure. Our population had increased, he understood, one seventh, within the last tea years, according to the retest ceases, which ono not yet published. An increased po pulation mast suturally serve to advance the price of corn, by increasing the demand for it; while our improved pro duce of corn must reduce Its price, and a depreciation of the currency must isterease shot price, whilst an advanced value is that currency must operate to reduce it. Now, moods the speratioa of all these cows, who could slate what was the untsral price of nos, independently of ery quieskio ea to the import of foreign grain? Or was there soy ansberity in this century, however high, who could make say assertion opus the alibied that was autitled to attention ? Yet Mr. Webb Hall had ventured to nuke the asortion which he had wiesiluesed. But really this Gentle. man seemed quite beside himself; for he had roundly as serted, that it was a *a couseq whatever to the Interest of egriculture, or that of the country at large, whether the Bask resumed cash payments or not, provided adequate provision were made by the Legielalure to guard against the import of foreign cure. Nay, in the pamphlet iii which these assertions appeared, Mr. Hall had observed, that " the most infallible criterion of natural wealth and prosperity is to be found in • IlichissisheJ value of currency, whether that currency shall consist of paper or metal, as that of poverty is to he rutted in a high value of currency." Then, arcordiag to this Geutleman's doctrine, France en joyed great wealth and prosperity when she was deluged by those 'mai:tants which were at last scarcely worth more thins waste paper ; and so was America, when, at the lime of her K.:volution, she had so many depreciated dollars in cir culation. But it was quilts Idle to argue with such • writer, sisal yes he was appointed by the present Ministers Seendery to the late Boatel of Aviculture, while he was selected by the farmers as Secretary to their Agricultural Associations. How then could She sgrieullisrists escape errors, or enteriaio eared vices., while they acted under such • guide, or at tended tu such au adviser? Yet his authority had bees quoted this day by those Gelatinises who so cautiously abstained from say animadversion nowt the conduct of Niobrara, by w hum all the affairs of the country had been so much derang ed, by whom every visitation that •ffiided the people bad hero onninly uerasioued. He really could sot see any ground loom which a nossideratiois of the proceedings %Athena: Minis ters could be separated from the question before the meet ing. Kiss to retons to Mr. With H•ll : that Gentleman had elated that the &snout of the Bauk notes did sot affect the the sudleoliad over/40MM* imolai of impli t io . enhance the prism beyriptialiat AR; mos lair.' That this mettles, i& far ft.. 81111411/11 *Woo beano it would mall diabolism kr spec' ay as is me 13 of thrtrilleyert; Commiliee espre•.tly admit Ruts the prices c Contesseni are not rrealeted by the roil of production, dee, before entirely bp the price tar other mostemie. is whirl) titer, tir a ai r . ELL demand for it. That the Report, at peat *3, allirsta t that t h e miaßtrtt the 41.-man4l of the Agrocolturol Petitioos fur equal pMNe• tzprthmey . .- .. t,o wi .. t* that re 1 prejesdieo i. . ffireeign eon Could be effects* • - .. hat e ldd Mr. Thundos, is his celebrated *Been yeses that the value of the Bank 11101 e currtmay must he seriously affected if it were ever allowed to reach thirty wellness. and it had settee ootariereely doer to. With respect to she sow. lion with which be proposed to t his amendment, lie was yoke ready to vote fur district meetings, imil for • county meeting after sech district meetings had declared Owe sentiments, which Meeting would, be hoped, be detennisoot upon, particularly with • view 10 consider the conduct of Ministers; for how strange was it that the Chalmette hr the Exchequer should be allowed t• restate its once after a Committee of the noose of Contemns, onespreheeding roar of his own colleagues. hail patellae's! a Report, cootainieg • direct contradiction of the it esulatioa which that Geode- man proposed as to the rerresicy apes the disesisaion of the bullion question in 1811. Ball every part of the creases of these Meatier* bad some extraordinary aspect, or Some role. chimes result. The ame•dreent having bee* read— Lord EGREMONT declared his entire concurrence With Mr. Blackout', that an resettled cuerrary was the gross sourer of the evils which affected agricaltore. Bass he be. lirved that the adoptiou of the esemorre for resuming cash payments was forced upon Ministers, art the American war was upon Lord North, by the voice of the people. He had oppreed both those messier., but still he klt that Ministers had is each case been compelled to yield to the °Motor of the peblic, and as to the resumption of cash payments, the measure wee now decided upon, sod as the thing was dune, he thought it impossible to remedy it. Mr. ELLMA N. sea. felt himself booed to oppose this amendment, lest from its adoption this might be dreamed& political meeting, which was a character be did not wish it to bear. Mr. BLACKMAN considered it mere drivelling and eon arose to say, that a meeting was out political which is. volved the interest, as its authors alleged. of every class of the people. The money qaestion was indeed the kcy.seme of the arch of such • meeting. and therefore the considera te:in of that question could net coasislestly be excluded any more than the conduct of Ministers, who upon that goes. tiou attempted to make Mr. Ricardo their scope goat, be. tense they adopted his plan in order to Meow themselves of their own natitiun. Yet thus the farnsers were inspnited spots and led away from •ny consideration of the eundwct of Ministers. But the farmers nowt, in order to sender stand their case, follow differeat leader. from those to whom they had heretofore attended. They must ;dunes deep, and contrive to reedier their brains clear, and tallow fur the reception of better seed.—(Applower.) Lord EGREMONT said. that be could not consider the Amendment of Mr Blackens. as a political or party propo sition, whatever he might think of that Gentiernaa's speech ; • for it was the fact, that all parties, is Parliament and out of it, ' supported the resomptios of cash payments. Lords Grey and Lansdown did au as well as the Ministers. Nay, Mr. Cobbett himself did so, and " what the devil more," said the Noble Lord, a would you require?"—(4 laugh sad applause.) After a few more observations from Mr. BLACKMAN, Mr. Elltitan withdrew his opposition, Sell the Ameinisiest was adopted. . 'Meeks were voted to Lord Egreenoot (err his condsel in the Chair, upon which the Noble Earl expressed his schemer ledgmeets, which were received with great applause, sad, after owlet isg that the several Resolutions should, with Mr. Ellossa's paper, be inverted in the Least Paper, The Farmer's Journal, 7A. Brighton Chrwriele, said certain other Papers, the meeting broke up about firer o'clock. l FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. LISBON MAIL MESON, NOVEMBER 23. Official notice is given by the Boa►d of Health ■t Bactsjox.and the Governor of that province, dated 17th instant, that the terrible effects of the conta gion which raged in two provinces of Spain, bor. drying our kingdom, base considerably diminished, so that the Governor of Badajoz judges that there is no reason to fear any thing from renewing our communications and commercial relations with those two provinces. The debates respecting the abolition of the patri archal church are not yet finished in the Cortes. Many Members urger! the necessity of reducing the expenses of au establishment, which consumes • great proportion of their revenue ; and it appears that the ivstlitition will be maintained, hut that the revenues will be greatly curtailed. in such man her as the Cortes shill determine. NoYEIIIIIII 44. The Cortes continue to discuss the articles of the Constitution day by day, besides the venous other subjects that are laid before them. It► the sitting of the 17th they continued the debate on the proposed law for the relief of the peasantry, by the abolition or reform of the iustitu. Lions called Foram A great diversity of opinion prevails on this subject; it was et letigth agreed to, on the question being put by the Pre,ident 1. That Ms reversl project had been sedicieatly dis cussed. I. That the Ferns should be reformed. 3. That one of the hews of the reform aboad be that the indeterminate and entertain imposts and dues should be re duced to certain services or molests. 4. That the second principle of the reform shall be the diminution of the nervierts or payments. In the sitting of the lgth, after the debate on some articles of the Constitution. M. Fernandez Thomas brought forward • complaint against the Minister of the Marine. He shewed two manor% such as are given to vessels going out to sea, which lie said were drawn up in a very anti-constitutional style, which had been expressly intwadreed by the present Minister, those formerly issued being in other terms : in the one, the Honourable Deputy observed, the terms " vassals," in the other " sub jects"—in one, " Royal Navy," in the other " Royal and National." He observed that this proceeding was very reprehensible at all times, but especially now ; he complained greatly of the indolence or negligence of the Minister, saying that in his department every thing was in the same or a worie state than before, and that in so important a branch of the service there was not the slightest amelioration. The Honourable Deputy concluded by raying, that it was necessary to inform his Ma j.sty how ill he was served by that Miiii.ier, and by proposing to lay the two passports on the table, to be examined by the Deputies. M. Borges Carneiro was going to speak, but was called to order by the President, who told M. F. Thomas that he must present his motion in writing. M. Vuiconcellas brought forward two motion*. The first was— 1. Thai it he beeteforili forbidden that criminals who are to be traaspseted to Africa be sent to the Peeks, Negras, Autumn or say ether Praeddios, where •,.i account o f th e sswitel:sonsa air Euroireans mutat lire tempt a short and painful life. S. That sheet oeferieeme penous who sew kepis& hi them Pratt/Me be immediately removed to ethers mere 'webby. The second tiropowil related to a number of Neapolitans condemned to the galleys. for real ur supposed crimes committed ia their own coati- try, Who Were conducted on hoard Portuguese shops to Rio Janeiro, and thence sent to Angulo. there to tin penance for lb. climes they li4ve cow nutted at Naples. It would be little wi'rble to the free principles which We have *dived biome the happy 44th August, ittet the Portuguese territaiy (a Inch ought to be the ainictuary of liberty, and a vitered asylum for all atrangers wbo >hrhl tale ie fuge in it) should Linter serve ef.; a prison for thioe unfortunate people vrho were by sight free accord ing to the 4th Article of the bas of Ike Cousti lotion, which prohibits soy iersmi from being ae• reiited except in COurrqueuve of legal proceediage. I the/efevre glove — I. 'that the Govervoaeot be called opost to give rievi.v. to restore So liberty the Neepkihtane Rent to the PTSSithuh AfriCa, sad irlso are there employed its the poblie venire aril works. rot being etrodeotoed to them for crimes Shire committed. -- I. Thai they be allowed to go frbere ibey please. Throe moiluns were ordered to rewaio for the se cond teethoig. BRITISHTHE PRESS. LONDON. THURSDAY; DECEMBER 6, 1811. We do not e*pect that the Address to the Kix% which was voted at the Thatched House on Tues day last, by the meeting of the Noblemen said Gentlemen connected with Ireland, will have the effect of inducing his MAJESTY to call his Parlia ment together one day earlier than had been pre viously appointed ; but no doubt can be eater gained that the unla►ppy state of Ireland will be noticed in a prominent manner in the Speech from the Throne, and will occupy the attention of Pat !lament previous to the discussion of any other topic. We hope that Select Committees will b e appointed by both Houses of Pa►liament, to quire not merely into the causes of the present discontents, but generally into the condition of the laboariug classes and the peasantry of Ireland, with a view to the suggestion of some remedy fur in). proving their moral and social condition. It was universally admitted ut the meeting on Tuesday, that the causes of the present diacoutents are not of momentary existence—that they are the same that have been in fearful operation for centuries, and that evils such as we now coutemplate with horror acid astonishment, must for ever return to our view, unless these causes, which have acquired strength from time, and have been fostered by the wicked and selfish passions of those who were bound to repress them, be effectually removed. Convinced as we are of the truth of such representations, we must lament that an inquiry, such as is now suggested. should be forced upon the unwilling attention of the Legislature; and that. propositions. urging the wisdom of preventing. by timely precautions, such miseries as we now witness, when inquiry might have been conducted with calmness and temper, had been hitherto uniformly rejected. The necessity of investigating the condition of Ireland has been fre quently submitted to either House of Parliament by various Members. It formed a prominent part of a motion for an inquiry into the state of the station, which was made some three or four years ago by the Duke of Beuroan in the House of Lord., and has been since submitted to their Lordships by Lord DONOUGHNORE and Lord DARNLEY. The at tention of the House of Commons also has beeu repeatedly drawn to the same subject; but, err. tautly, in the House of Commons, the state of Ire land bus been uniformly associated with the policy of conceding to the Roman Catholics the extent of their demands; so that the great question respecting the genital condition of the country has been always narrowed into one which, however important in itself as a matter of public policy. yet could exercise but • partial influence upon the destinies of the great mass of the people of Ireltuld. Parliament, however, con no longer avoid the consideration of this subject. The evidences of • vicious system speaking with fire and blood, and appealing with no less force to our in terests than to our feelings, are irresistible. Ireland can no longer be neglected by the Cabinet of this country, or sacrificed to indulge the avarice or the ambition of inefficient or inexperienced Statesmen. The country has become in effect a portion of this kingdom. and cannot any longer be farmed out to a wretched fac►ion for the indulgence of their mis chievous passions. Why the meeting at the Thatch ed House was called cannot easily be discovered, but some things dropped from the Gentlemen who attended at it, which are so different from the system that is in daily operation among us, that our blood turned cold in reading them. and we derived from them some insight into the causes that have given such n reckless desperation to the conduct of the i surgents. We find Mr. Douovae, a Gentleman who boasted the experience of half a cautery, saying, that "in Ireland justice had never been fairly ad. ministered among the people; bills of indictment could either be found or thrown out among them. just as the party happened to hove private iatere•E with the Grand Jury. Every man," he said, " knew that when these Grand Juries in Ireland as sembled at the Assizes. presentment jobbing was the business attended to." We must confess that we had often before hear.l of such things. but ever felt mu unwillingness to believe that in a country possessing, at lewd 111 name, the blessings of the British C0m6 1 11 6 ' 46 such abuses could exist. Here, however, we hint