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I eoloey society , t on. •w not to interposing celapNtied w•PosN• wi 4 smo' " l b j iscuUaba aid} ow eepenteed applied se re they to statement A 1112 be rjoatify re. jery. 4 ap that 'bar Cyr idit of ordain Al had ►lame tbat for objects of c spe- House M iota wbeiltsr proseed -4 the the ..4) the insets . wetter, reined ,r; . ar and lie oceattion a be the Bathurst. spedis J doe 41111. the t, he have pecuniary statement ? no He Com- t, as well ,f justice, as hig hes t teruis of the E replied, that in all cases of banishment, they *sold require from the.Colonisl Government a full statement of the tircumstaneen of the case, and be thought that if any Governor faded in skis, he ought to be removed. If that were uniformly praetised'there would be fewer complaints. Mr. RIDLEY COLB:RNE also spoke highly of the Corn shissioners. The petition was then ordered to be printed. EMPLOYMENT OF CHILDREN IN COTTON FACTORIES. Mr. HOBFIOUSE presented a petition from the Spinners of certain Cotton Factories, in the neighbourhood of Belfast, in favour ' Of the PRI fbr limiting the hours of children's labour in Cotton roctoticc—Ordered to be pprinted. METROPOLITAN UNIVERSITY. , Mr. BROUGHAM brought up the Bill for incorporating a col- Rae In or near London. The Bill was read aerie time, and ordered tithe read &second time on Monday. COM BIN.tTION LAWS. Mr. GOULIIURN presented a petition from the builders of Dublin against the Combination Laws. Mr. lIUSKISSON presented a similar petition from Bolton-le )lcons—Roth to lie on the table. SMALL DEBTS (SCOTLAND) RECOVERY BILL. Lord A. HAMILTON moved that the Small Debts Recovery Rif (Scotland) be read a third dine that day six months. The LORD ADVOCATE moved that it be thqt read a third time, which befog put, was carried, and the Bill was read a third hire and passed. Mr. Sweretary CANNING brought tip papers consisting of the correspondence with the British Comalianoners respecting the Vas* trade. Ile stated that they were the letters which passed hotheen those Commiuioners and the Foreign Office. Xt. BERNAL made come inquiry, as we understood, relative to • vessel captured by a British ship, the details of which we dosid not collect. Mr. Secretary CANNING could not reply from memory; the, particular be tbea was not in possession of. • GRANT TO THE PRINCESS ALEXANDRINA AND PRINCE GEORGE. . The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order elf the Day for the House resolving Itself into a Committee of the wbole House, upon the consideration of his Majesty's Mes- Inge relative to making an adequate provision for her Royal High ness Alexandrian Victorin (daughter or his Royal Highness the , but Duke of Kent). anti his Royal Highness George Frederick Alexander Ernest Augustus (son of his Royal Highness the Duke of Cumberland.) , The SPEAKER having left the Chair, the Royal Message was then read. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER raid, whenever his Majesty had considered himself called upon to submit to the egesideration of the House any matters relative to the provisions necesesry to be made for the due maintenance of the dignity and attention of the Royal Family, the House of Commons had always been disposed to treat the communication with respect, and had nett manifested any want of attention, or any feeling, other than that of the strongest regard and attachment to his Majesty's royal person. True it was, the House had not always acceded to those propositions, but in cases where they had Absented from the royal suggestion, they hart never failed, to treat the Crown with every proper degree of attention and respect. It was therefore only ne c.esitary to state the nature of the present proposition, and the grounds upon which his nlejesty's Ministers had felt disposed to recommend to their Royal Master to send down the Message now before the House. In the year 1818, on the occasion of the mar. nage of the late Duke of Kent. his Majesty bad been advised to send down a Message to the House. recommending that a pro vision be mode for an increase to his Royal Highness's income; abd accordingly the House had come to the resolution of providing a farther sum ef 8.0001. in addition to the previous income of his Royal Highness, and also had settled an annuity of 5,0001. upon her Royer Highness, in case of her surviving her royal consort. He thought it would he at once admitted that this provision was wholly loadequate to the maintenance and education of children, and indeed leo Provision had been made at the time for soy issue that might be the consequence of the union. The House would recollect that these existed many calls upon Individuals in the high station to which the Duchess of Kent belonged, which other indivi (Jails were not Liable to, and that it was requisite they should be enabled to maintain the rank and dignity of their situation as be came persons connected with the reigning family. Since the prd. vision had been made to which he had adverted, a daughter was horn, the thin of that union : the young Prioress was now arrived at the age of six years, and it was necessary that a imitable sum should be provided for her educat ion. proportionate to her situation in relation to the succession to the crown of this country. Ile had not the honour to be personally acquainted with her Royal High ness the Duebena of Kent, or the young Princess her daughter, but he understood great pains haul been taken in her education, eind that for bet years she had been brought up with • due regard to those sentimems which it was most desirable should be lin planted in het mind. This had been effected by the assist arca whi;h her Royal Highness had derived from her Royal brother (Prince Leopold) which had enabled her hitherto to edu cate the infant Princess in a manner becoming her rank. The ad dui= to the income of her Royal Highness the Duchess of namt which be should propose, was six thousand pounds per to enable her the better to bring up the young Princess as became the female heiress presumptive of this realm,— He should next draw the attention of the House to the situation of the family of his Royal Highness the Duke of Cumberland. At the time of his Royal Highness's marriage, ri proposition had been made to increase the amount of his income. which the House proved indisposed to accede to. The marriage had been contracted nodal cirminstances rot altogether seitisfaciory, and sonic objec tiefill existed as to the propriety of receiving the Duchess at Court. He did not mean to say it was not perfectly competent to the House eo refuse those grants open constitutional principles, because it was she only mode by which they could testify their diaapproba tion of any irregularity In the marriages at the Royal Family. In 1818 a similar proposition had been brought forward, when .pmvi. stuns were making for other branches of the Royal Family ; but the same line of objection had been taken to it as formerly, and the only thing that had been done was to wide an annuity upon the Duchess of Cumberland, similar in amount to that seeded on the. Duchess of Kent, in case she should happen to survive his Royal Highness. The young Prince, he whose education he had to pro pose the present grant, had been born since that period, and was new 512 sears et age. The position of this rung Prince was out to different from that of the leant daughter 01 the Duchess of Kent ; . . V't• ' ' 4 • ' ' - - ~ . . . • . 1 .,.. '. ` • . • .. t . ‘. ~ .. .' L. ... ' 4. ' • ' ,..0 il ' ...' r• -- , , e' .4 tr' . • • , . • 111111111 MMOMEM 011 . 1111 . 1111 . 111 M Gibe Midinde Outdo mime( eppesishoeldtit la this eel Ida ant ihr sedum. Re mead report that the mete al seei dhe's OM ereit that It was beemisent Oa the sen mf zittl i f th: f p 11111111111=riker inhoudik alimi = bet reason to thh if et the he scrupled not ;ft el. W=lo/ orb over fee in bOt interposl iill MI the i r *eight up, end wed. It canplah li et the ' uriosabove.desailed, AM prayed for relief sae compost . . a- ~,,• • Mr. w..HDRTOIN limp&Srnet be .ae were . bete the merits of re POW. '(' ' /I weber foe Abs'ordei /*sate a is. to ineebam I ICo'emial 'by Mr riming a punishment 'e ..tit decision Sr a Cant trimness the.eape Jfeeitlieve me ef ie r ri aeepor. Thetip shoehmelps , . Se lbees. is qualm mom : 14 . ... „..., • . lOW the Sr ,a 'mug. had applied et Mae for riders, but Were they - .or .Itl Z ' with his desires on %ex -eerie stators ......, lednlmeegt o to make ? ' 'ere they to act ' Ilmatipotted cation ? In such cues all ti pee, us emilee eametunications as should be i ' 1111110,selestinste an herby, if the case seemed tojust k r itias.'to the =ptis - t ar h tahvaet sustained t a s i h r t i o e u d ld an me t t u hollidt 1 • hea tid l7 R c rilrfthi c al m eo m m u p 9 l l Z4 lll hal b i t =lll he _ easel al the tratiefaction • which the case or bask mem to require. They were aware i . Gi - .. . GO the abject of the government at the Ca • tr.. bet toidisi a great extent. Since the arab , 4 Ain leo se Me than twenty-four inculpator t y b art a tfibs . eapeenly for the had purpose of i bean er out n ri t n e g in e to t a joules, and if any accideutal circumstance II trik oo the Government at home were 110 L to Ira fit Mid . Meolser for Aberdeen attempt to say lb 5e... ~.... or in every respect highly qualified I trappeietsmat tZ lot received ? Amongst the other objects ord. was be ireent alteratire is the Dutch law, se to depledlste it In Ilmellisetions of this country, and to report sp =Pio Glejapiabltrallon of justice. fle put it to the Host any apes eles hour asiculated to promote the true late era of the phow that which had been adopted, and wheth . she Ceindel end& consistintly with its dory, prom OD asp He had no doubt. that so 000 n as tl . , err red adequate irquiry should be laid before d Meese, whi he seen toasted he should be able to place on tl r 1 ii.i...___,.%1703,1.--bn-daY.....-7, irt:fd hante"tretie, .J 7: 110 My MOEN= they led ass bees sit srce able to supply a rimed , If the mutiny take ends, its protealso colonies which nail formed belonged le Foreign States, it woeM be impossible at a moment I abrogate all their laws, and instantly' substitute the institutions I our own. A report had been received on the ware of Edwards, an thaw existed no objection to lay it tribe table of that House. Il the., has proceeding to read a letter, but previously took (scenic to shears that the writer (whom we unierstood to be th Bedtime') had laid his statement slid diary before Lord Betimes film whom he recirved a reply, (hat if he would make any speed emend, his case should meet with immediate attention. lie the • raid the letter, which in substance stated that the miter had et dared much oppression, and that be thought himself entitled to femintion of his sentence and to pecuniary compensation for to wrongs he had suffered. After reading to them such a fetter, b Wald ask in what position would the Colonial Department hat found itself, If a man, after having been found guilty by a cow of justice, +were to have his sentence rentitteo and pecuniar compensation made to him merely upon an ce.parie statement tet t l h l e leth eeed urst, "3 ,4 T, listftatesed the ehisswelr•onelsuhleelwoubld order giv n s decided answer until he should receive further information. II (Mr. W. Horton) then concluded by observing, that the Con missionen, of necessity, would soon deliver in their report, as we opon all matters connected with the administration of justice, a MO the case of the petitioner. He spoke in the highest teru of the chum-ter and qualifications of the Commissioners. Sir M. W. RIDLEY also bore testimony to the meriu of di Commissioners. • Mr. flUillE replied, that in all cases of banishment, the 1 won ' 4~ he did •d r is dte be celled ea le Ihs Mtiuy issilletd WM • =erwAtr ia dMI (lieee) sad the he bed Meet wits to lest is prim emeasa. The light NW. eamilll9lllll with se hit leselutliew s v z i t or pi ihse 11 1 , K11111111111,11414.—1t • warm if *pawns ebeetillemeimelned is is tilt end MORI butt that in tithe Ryes Fewillywhewil j pe e be • sienikr pal( there was ewe mist Mere WO ewe tbjest isibultie diem maim. it was, (ba tch eapitedew or . Royal Tatully he Onsdealkall lo a , high rank. And elthiswgb htt selght be St peritonea' a seeeiiwastrhsist w 1111601. yet la set m epees ma pro he the presemptimitejltetwore et dtis citatory. ith le the Puke of Curabs4, he slid be think that the mould ale., jeeelem taken to the faceless of his reweaue had any relation be sulglemerf his marriage. If the King thought it unsuitable, be the_ pewee of objecting to it and preventing it ; but on the matrary. It lied seceded le, sad me suffered to remain e 41111 the keolo Army previous to anent, as might be dm wowe as tithe Royal Marriage Act. Ho thediliwilties lw the way of the proposed grants to the of Camibmbegl ertglnatM in some dislike felt by the people of We °Mitt, mr, ' eepeeesetatives towards hie Revel Hightters, end 1... u. mom it time' sake that fall • feeling which tn. Limed eeetylisly„ ersee min. Wallin and ° ls th is the previlei wee waled by tbs Be we isseelt that Illealhe cells' of the reread, and net the of Owetherland • had thought peeper to eostraet.VCli stelae Royal puke situated ? its ha Is er 19 tattaimad at agerile Seed abroad, not filling an of like Lis bmthir the •Dake of Can. bridge; but mating *boot the Cmainent, somedatesinit plass, sometimes in another, where, general 4 • . 10, t ew. would go as far in 26,000 L in England. He ( r. Brou ) thought there should be no augmentation of his salary all he showed himself in England, and came forward to support the dignity of the country like an English Prince. Ile should do as his Royal brother the Duke of York, who wu very differently provided for—crippled and encumbered by debt, and yet he never came to the House to beg the liquidation of his debts, heavy as they were, notwithstand ing ahem of his family had not scrupled to do so once and again. 11 e were certainly in rather a plethoric sort of habit In point of money at present, and the great endeavour and want appeared to be how we should get rid of it ; but for his part he should rather sub scribe money for other branches of the Royal Family, and for the payment of their debts, than permit their carriages to be seized under executions, if they ventured on a race-course. It was with pain he alluded to the subject, or to occurrences which, If they happesed to any gentleman in that House, he would feel himself divest:aid and degraded. Here gretted the Inas the country had sustained in the death of the Duke of Rent •, he trusted the young Princess would inherit the merits of. her father and the virtues of' her mother, and that the education she might receive would fit her to adorn her high situation. Mr. HUM E entered his pretest against theprinciple broached by the Hon. and Learned Member (31r. Brougham) with respect to the debts of an illustrious personage. With respect to the grant for the edqcation of the Princes Alexandrine, he was happy it was made, and indeed thought it should have been brought forward before : however, even tardy justice was better than none. He thought also it would be better if the grant had originated two or three years ago. and gone on gradually increasing. lie had the full_ rest confidence the money we'lld be applied to the purpose for which it was intended in the hands of Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent. With regard to the other vote, though he stood alone, he should take the sense of the House upon it. it was monstrous, after the opposition precious grants to the Duke ofCumberland had experienced ; both out and in doors, to make the present propositieo. He asked, were circumstances altered to induce the flothe to dis agree with the majority on s previous vote? He would venture, with 1001. to give the young Prince a better education, either at the colleges of Aberdeen or Maynooth (a laugh), than he was likely to get where he was for 12,0(0/ Let the Duke come to England, be come an Englishman, and have his children educated with British feelings. The Duke of Kent, previous to his reaching the age of twenty-one, had never received a greater allowance front the late king than about 6001. or 1,0001. a-year, and that doled out by his tutor at the rate of s pound at a time. The other Dukes had been similarly circumstanced. While lie to pported the first vote he was not prepared to afford his consent to the other. Sir I. COFFIN thought that, after what had been said relative to the debts of the heir presumptive to the Crown, some proposi tion should be made for their payment. The amount of that royal personage's debt to his tailor alone was 12,0001. Mr. !BONER approved of the grant to the Princess Alexandrine, but did not concur in the necessity of one to the young Prince. Sir C. FORBES supported both the grants. Sir J. MARJOR !BANKS would willingly support a grant to the Duke of York, who had always been such a distinguished and benevolent friend to the military. Mr. T. WILSON, in answer to the Honourable Member who wished to ascertain what foreigners did in regard to education, said he thought it ought to be ascertained, for the purpose of avoiding it. (A laugh.) If they sought to instruct their Princes in what would promote moral good feeling and humanity, they should do it at home. He felt great pleasure in supporting the grant to the Duchess of Kent, from the uniformly exemplary Manner in which she conducted herself. (Hear.) Mr. BERNAL knew nothing so perilous as these injudicious attempts of mistaken friends of the branches of the Royal Family to mash Tidings in their favour. A former vent to the Dukerif ettatilediad was definitively refused ; he then enjoyed 18,0001. a year, and a further annuity of 8,000/. was asked, with the annexed condition that the child was to be removed 'from his father's tutelage. (Hear, hear.) He had no objection to granting 6,000/. additional to the Duchess of Kent ; he wished that an addition should be mule to her income. la hen he recollected that during her widowhood she was overloaded with debt, he thought 6,0001. rather Imo than ought to be given to her. With regard to the Duke of Cumberland. he then enjoyed 18,000/. a year, a sum equal in Germany to 2(a 0001. in this country. He wished to know whe ther the Royal Duke intended to return to England. The CIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER next rose. [We regret that from the darkness in the Gallery (the candles not having been yet lighted, though it was eight o'clock), we are unable to give an accurate report of what fell from the Right Hon. Gent.)—lle said he certainly did not mean to hisinuate that there was anything in the conduct of the Duke of Cumberland, to render him unfit to be the guardian of his child ; he merely expressed his opinion that the young Prince ought to be educated in England. The objection to the Duke of Cumberland on a former occasion arose, he (the Chan. cellor of the Exchequer) understood, from some dissatisfac tion entertained at his marriage. It had been insinuated that his residence abroad was owing to a general dislike ; if so, it surely was rather unfair to taunt hint for his absence, an d say there was nothing for bin as he had not staid in England. He (the Chan eellor of the Exchequer) was asked what were the pecuniary cir. eamstances of his Royal Highness, and whether he did labour *Om heavy embarrassments. At one time, he believed, he was Oiled in difficulties of that nature, and, considering the various temptations to which branches of the Royal Family were ex posed in their youth. such a circumstance was not to wondered at. ire diti not therefore think it candid to charge them with not knowing how to manage their affairs. (Hear, hear.) One reason for his Royal Higtmese's residence abroad, was, lie understood, the bad state of health of hie Duchess, who was recommended by her physicians to reside et particular parts of Germany. Ile (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) did not think it gracious to make the grant contingent on the return of the Duke of Cumberland to England. It should be remembered, that he hail 6.000/. a year less than every other branch of the Royal Family. The Duchess had also two children by a former husband, which circumstance' was of course an additional incumbrance. If the House made the present grant contingent on his return, it would not be likely to make him come home a moment sooner; it would, in feet, be saying to him, " we before refused you 6,000/. because we did not like you and now we will not give it to you, unless you return to Engliand." (Hear.) The Hon. Member for !Montrose (Mr. H.) said the Duke of 'Sussex was a more fit object for receiving a grant, for that he bad children by his marriage Ile (the Chancel lor of the Exchequer) wished to remind the lion. Member that these children were not Princesses of the Blood ; tne marriage was not in conformity to the Royal Marriage Act. His wife too lived separate, and had an annuity of 5,0001. a-year from the Royal bounty. Sir. J. MARTIN said It would be inconsistent in Min II foe the present grant after his endeavour to reduce taxation. He thought 18,000/. a• ear quite enough for the Duke of Cumberland. Mr. Secretary PEEL thought it not too late in the Session, as had been urged, to bring forward the present measure; neither could the paucity of alembers then in the House be a reason for not persevering in the motion. The absence of Members rather proved that they were not dissatisfied at the proposition, otherwise the benches then unoccupied would soon be filled. He in his re marks should confine himself exclusively to the question before the Howe. namely, the education of the two children. With respect to the first grant, all joined in its propriety, from the willingness which the Duchess of Kent always showed to fulfil the duties of a mother. and the exemplary manner in which she conducted herself. With respect to the grant for the Duke of Cumberland's son, the Honourable Member for Slonirose said that for MK he could be well educated. A Prince of the Blood educated for 1001. a-year ! (" No, no," and a laugh.) Certainly lie said he could be educated as well for 1001. as for 1,000/. a-year. (" Hear, hear," and great laughter.) Ile said that a College was about to be formed in the Metropolis, which he (ale Peel) understood was for the education of mechanics, and at that seminary he wished the son of the Duke of Cumberland to b e educated. (Great laughter, and " No, no.") Was he (Sir. Peel) misrepresenting the lion. Member P lle heard it suggested to hint by an Hon. Friend of his. It was rather asto nishing that another lion. Cleteber (Mr. Brougham), who was Recto' of a University, did not put in his claim for his own Col lege. (A laugh.) The Right Hon. Gentleman, after some further obeerratlons, concluded with supporting the motion. Sir E. RNATCHRULL siiiiponed the motion. The CHANCELLOR of rte EXCHEQrEit was sorry that any thing which fell from hint shmild mislead the House. If the yoang Prince were not educated in England, he felt that a gross and shameful deceit would be practised on the House. Sir E. KNATCH BULL inquired whether, if the child were not brought to this country for five or six *ars, it would be considered as a compliance with the Vote? The 411.aNCELI.OR of the EXCHEQUER—CertainIy not. Mr. DENMAN opposed the motion as far as regarded the Duke of Cumberland. Hon. Members seemed vying who should deal most extravagantly with the public purse. One Hon. Baronet pro posed that eettaiu a.-rears be paid to the Duke of Cumberland ; another Be.. assoopaid they alt i :s a rl d r a tisisls of the Duke of York I hit sild lb.* le* y owed his tailor MOM I don. corm Odd goo olacandoit of dome Illiessioas Wields* is doslOightg diets dm hotpwasewelf_ Mk& t woo as be mai tar the mow ere hou. ots hod ow se the goo So Oa Anima Of LW; 4: ar rith respect lc muse yam who woo, to osi the dr the Chasollue of *a irodompm. ',is loots posits y to the 00 1 11 .1. tor ftraw~ far Ms sit tollligs ' He thought IMO.. a sadist he do Puke of Cumberland ri o t 1:110 . , „ ......11 ma oht ism l l= dr Raise mem wpm. a yea". hi terlebat he baba Peeweest. h ooklem. abet alter the forma discussion he went ahrasil *I , ha wits riffit Is withdrawing himself from the a ~., Old why In God's name make any exertion to I • err, hear.) The Resolution as it then stood 11 111.11•0004 del i 11So it 11111% the Chancellor of the Exchequer, es he said the Mahe fur Z. Knatchbull) Pad no inten der pp deceive Wee' eseurity was there, that the it e ß ti ra bibs eollod P for could tt gryarevnt tu n be c co on n .. • it bs esseteast au . tion of the young prince 4 ) An ebernatille Wit bees made as to the thinness % 2 _... ti *me. lei am • • deduced from it in support ol /*les hi sibs the absence of Members M it toad lloilennileolf slot 11/11 ili. He did not himself know a it.. and is amid this moarable Gentleman opposite, that sf thozol e dsigidas sun persevered in, the House would be' min embers to oppose it- Even many on the °t lo 3 i e would oat be farad wnious to sttj,port it, when they fou r laisbou patting their hoods in the public purse. (Cries of "Fkoo, heal If he remands* Jit t i . :y, there was something flai4 as to the RoyalThlte's halftones's' tel with other children. If so, there wee sonic other postbn for them. At all events, these ewere of a different stock (a laugh), and had no connexion with this country. For the.. TWOS. he should vote for the fine grant, and oppose the mood, sod he trusted a mejority of the Huuse would come to the sassassoduslon, when they saw such a reckless wasted' the public mow. (How, hear.) Sir J. AIARJORIBA NIES did not mean by what he said that tehef should be granted to the Royal Duke; he looked on is grant to him not es a relief, but a mere Sc'. of justice to one who con tributed to raise to its present high station the military glory of the country. Mr. Secretary CANNING false. from the low tone in which the Right Honourable Gentleman commenced, his first sentences were nearly inaudible. We undensood -bim to toky-1 think it. Sir, extremely uofair to have the claims and modes* , ding imam of the Royal Family , who are not properly before the one, dis. cussed, as they hive been this eveaing—(Aar,hear)—to have the propriety of grants being made to them canvassed on the suppo sition that grants have been proposed. I repeat. Sir, that It is most unfair, that oo the memo of a grant being moved to one branch of the Royal Family, the claims of another should be mooted. I confess, that if the claims of that illustrious individual were fairly before the House, such a course would be perfectly justifiable. An Honourable Member opposite seems to insinuate that some indiscreet friend of theoDuke of York took the oppor tunity of what he thought the vein of liberality which pervaded the House, in bringing forward the proposition for giving an increased allowance to the Royal Duke. It was not so, Sir ; this subject was started by another Honourable Member not now pre sent, who, when discussing the giant for educating the Duke of Cumberland's son, said that if so much money were to be given away, he would rather expend it in paying the debts of the Duke of I or*. (Hear, hear ). Then arose the discussion whether such a grant would be fair or not. The question was argued with as much earnestness as if his Royal Highness were actually before the House twebrrna pauperise. (Hear, hear.) With respect, Sir, to the two grants proposed by my Right lion. Friend, I think it some consolation that I need not advance anything in .support of the first ; indeed it would be a waste of words to argue the propriety of it, as all parties look on it as souse act of justice rather than munificence; his Mejesty's Government rather re ceive blame that they have not proposed it sooner, and that it was less than it ought to be. (Hear.) On the Duchess of Kent no greater praise could be bestowed, than that an individual standing in the rank she did should lead so quiet, retired, and I may add, unobtrusive a life—that an individual sustaining so high a station in this Loamy should be known but to few, scarcely seen by any ; certainly never putting herself forward to the rouble gaze—always attending to the instruction of this child, for whose education we are now providing. (Hear, hear.) With respect to the awed grant, there seems to be an objection raised from some ill feeling to the Duke of Cumberland. For my own part I confess I would rather that the House should look on it, not as a grant to the Duke of Cumberland, but one for the education of his son, a Prince next to the daughter of the Duchess of Kent in proximity to the throne. To this grant two objections are ad. !aimed-Ist. '1 hat the father and son ea abroad ; that the money now to be paid may perhaps be spent abroad. On the other hand, he urged that hisoyal Highness was so odious as not to deserve it, and that they would never wish to see him established in this country. This certainly is an unjust view of it. The object of the grant, Sir, is to secure to his son dust education which it is befitting a Prince standing in relation to the throne should have—a Prince too who stands in "remoter proximity to the Crown." I use the words, although my Right lion. Friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was supposed to use them in rather a blundering man ner: largo, or rather /ongiori pros-boos istersitlki, though perhaps it contains a seeming contradiction, is. I ten sure, intelligible to the titmice' scholar. It implies a proximity something more re mote. My Right lime Friend is asked if he can give any security that the object of the grant shall be carried into effect ? Undoubt edly. What is to be the result of the motion, if agreed to? Why to enable the ling to issue a certain sum foe the education of this young Prince. It is, then, I say, the dety of his Majesty's Mi nisters to advise that no money be isaged unless for the purpose for which it was voted. His Right lion. Friend was also asked if the Royal parents were to return to this country with their child / a circumstance which he certainly could not know, nor indeed would it be fair in him to ask a question on the subject. tVe call, Sir, on the House to place the vote in the hands of the Crown, and it will be the duty of Ministers to see that not one shilling of it be expaided unless the child be brought to this country to receive hid education. (Hear, hear.) We ate asked whether the father will follow the child ? Again I answer, we do not know. I cer tainly recollect, if my memory do not fail me, though I think it fair to say that I have not refreshed it by any reference, that when a grant was filet proposed to be made to the Duke of Cumberland, the question was argued ex ready on the disapprobation which his marriage generally met with. (Hear, hear.) When a subsequent application was made, it was refused on the ground of the former refusal, the basis of which was as I have mentioned ; if, then, on the second application, he found there was a lurking secret dis like to him, was it astonishing that he should leave the country 2 %%Then he found, too, that the sum allotted him by Parliament was not sufficient to enable him to support his wife and establishment in a style of dignity equal to his Royal brothers, was it a matter of astonishment that he should seek privacy in another country ? Un. doubtedly it would have been the first object and pride of the Duke of Cumberland to place his wife and family in that country to which he was attached by every tie of blood acid inclination; but I cannot say it was not natural he should go to that other country, which, under all the circunistancee, mutt have been niore agreeable to his wife and himself, and in :hat country we now find him living with his wife, and a child born subsequent to the refusal of any further Par liamentary provision for the increased expenditure required upon his marriage —with a child, I say, in the direct line to the throne of this kingdom, and of an age which demands our attention to its future maintenance and education. if, then, the Duke of Cum berland resides abroad from some reasons which I know not—in the name of God, I say, rescue the child. If he resides abroad from an inability to support his wife and child in this country in a man ner adequate to their rank, remove that impediment. Our business is to secure a future King to be educated in this kingdom. For that purpose his Majesty's Al inisters have made this application to Parliament, and they take upon themselves the ususl responsibility that the sum they require shall be applied to the education of the child ; and I think, from the advantage' attendant upon such a course of proceeding, they are bound so catty that resolution iota effect. Sir C. FORBES defended the course recommended by Ministers, and attributed the hostility displayed by the Opposition on the subject of this grant, to the Duke of Cumberland's having assisted to throw out the Talents. The Duchess of Kent ought to have been provided for long since. lie thought it a scandalous thing that she should be, as it had been reported, left dependent upon the bounty of her brother, the Prince of Saxe Coburg. Mr. J. IV 11.1.1 A AIS thought that the thin attendance upon the Opposition benches was a sufficient Ew* n. to the assertion of the Hon. Baronet on the subject of party hostility. Leaving out how. ever all the questions which had been mixed up with the debate upon the grants, he was of opinion that great injustice had been done to the D uchess of Kent in leaving her with only 6,000/. a-year, when the Duke of Cumberland had 18.0001. To the grant to t h e Duchess therefore he would make no objection ; but he would not consent to any additional allowance for even the education of the child of the Duke of Cumberland, until he saw the Duke fairly landed on English ground. If therefore his Hon. Friend pressed his amendment, and would take the sense of the (louse upon the question of 111,0001. a-year being enough for the maintenance of the Duke of Comte:lend and his family, he ale:mid have his su 7l l 7e n. Resolution that it was expedient to grant 6,0001. to the Duchess of Kent for the maintenance and education of the Prin cess Alexandrine, was then put and carried. On the question that a sum of 9.0001. be granted to the Duke of Cumberland for the education aid maintenance of the young Prince George, Mr. GIPPS moved that the words " in Great Britain" be added. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that after the unequivocal assurance that this grant was not asked for under any false pretences, but for the bone fide education of the child of the Duke of Cumberland in this country, he could not perceive any reasons for the amendment proposed, unless the House thought that his Majesty's Minister' were not about to act with good faith, and that they did not Intend to abide by their declarations. Such an addition to the Resolution could only imply a doubt, either that the Ministers would not watch over the application of the money, or that the Duke of Cumberland would not be disposed to comply with the terms of the grant. In either case the House had it in its power at any time to institute an inquiry into the applica tion of the money. Looking upoo the power thus vested in the House, and feeling conscious of there being no grounds fat imput- ing any false pretences to his Majesty's Ministers, he would oppose the amendment. Hr. J. P. GRANT would be the last man to impute any thing like a deflaration of false pretences to the Right lion. Gentle man, or to charge him with an intention to deceive the House; but wit the Right lien. Gentleman sure of his place ?—(hear)— Il -,, . ~: ~„ -old be IMMIX for the ecmdate ebribillta g t 011titht succeed him ? A variety of eidee would have the effect of depriving the blight Hon. Geellba=6 "i f his per; end if the Duke of Cumberland shield beef as not to comply with the conditions of the grant, whet Might be said by any future Minister, If • Member rose In that Hoare to complain of that failure of engagement? (Hear, hear.) Weald he not my. "I am ao party to any such understanding (hear).— 1 WTI not bound by any engagement?" and would he not point triumphantly to their Journals, as cornainlng the naked anquaiilied vote, without any explanation? (Hear, bear.) The money was la _ tended to be applied solely to the education of the son of the Duke in this country; and he thought that online they inserted such words as would clearly point out their intention, there would be nothing binding, either on future Ministers or on his Royal Highness. Mr. R. MARTIN defended the grant, and thought the Doke shetild bare 'eempensation for the refute' of on inidition to Ida income on the former occasion, Lord BINNING would vote for the grant, on the ground stated by the Chancellor of the Exchequer. It was intended to enable the Duke to educate his child honourably, and he would object to any eildirional words, which might convey an appearance that I the House did not confide in the integrity of Ministers. or that it suspected unfair dealings on the part of the Duke. Nut such terms were coupled with any other grant t and this might place the child of his Royal Highness in a eery unpleasant rimer_ tine, as it would become a very questionable matter whether the young Prince could be conveyed oat if this country for even a few weeks, to prelusive his health without the consent of Par. , Sir J. NEVI PORT had no doubt of the sincerity of his Masi jetty's Ministers in their professions on this subject; but as their abject was to 'void the evils of a foreign eduCation, and u MI. Lobsters conld only answer for themselves, but not for the Dune, 110 would object to any accession to his Royal Highness's in. enme, unless for the express purpose of educating his child in Great Britain (hear, hear); and he would secure the performance of that condition he entering the reason of the ;swot upon the Journals. The Right lion. Gentleman, (the Chancellor of the Ex. equer,) had told them they might afterwards compel the perform. ant/ of the covenant ; but he considered it better to establish their Meese, Ilketly now than be compelled after wards to retrace their RHSKISSON apprehended that it was the first time Par liament had attempted to point out to the Crown the partindar method of applying money for the education of the Royal Family. however the House disapproved at any time of the course pur. wad, they might institute an inquiry by calling fur the warrant i which was issued to procure payment •of the money. He agreed with the Noble Lord (Lord Binning) upon the strength of the objection he had urged to the want of a power for the removal of the elidd from this country in ease of illness even for three weeks; and Mentended with him, that the introduction of the words in the resin. &Rion would render the consent of Parliament necessary to such a petnovall. Ile did not know that it would be inexpedient to put home declaration as to the education in Great Britain into the pee. feeble of the Bill, which would follow the resolution, (hear. hewn) because that would sufficiently point out the motive of the grant Without making its terms so imperative. Something was, lie con. tender'., to be allowed for the feelings of the Duke of Cumberland, that his child should be properly educated, and he would therefore vote for the Resolution, because he believed the terms would be strictly fulfilled. Dr. LUSH INGTON had no douot the terms would be fulfilled now; hut as they had heard the Hon. Baronet (Sir C. Forbes) talk of the Duke's assistance in bringing in a " No Popery" administra. tion, was it not to be feared, that if ever an administration wholly of that party—a thing not now improbable—was formed, it to ht, out of gratitude to the Duke, no; be very particular in its inquiries as to the method cf applying the grant. Ile was not therefore pre pared to give to the Choncellor's soccemor the power of paying the money without any condition. nor to admit the Duke to dole out the sum granted for the education of his child in any manner he might think proper, and make the Crown the mere conduit-pipe through which the 6,000/. were to pass without any contract as to its application. Ile would not trust the Duke of Cumberland, and he had heard nothing which could induce Parliament to alter the opl. Mon it had formed in 1816, that the Duke had not, nor did not, deserve the confidence of the country. The Duke of Cumberland had 19,0001. a year, while the Duchess of Kent had but 6.0001. r• if they gave the Duchess 12,0001. it would then leave the Duke LOW. more than the Duchess was allowed for herself and het daughter. He could not perceive why there should exist that difference be. tween the allowance male to the Duchess of Kent for the educed= of her Princess, and that now proposed to be granted to the Duke of Cumberland for the education of his son. But twelve thousand pounds a year it seemed was amply sufficient for the Duchess of Kent, who, with her daughter, continually resided in this country, and yet it was deemed necessary to increase the allowance to the Duke of Cumberland to 24,0001. a year, although the Duke resided abroad, and there was no probability of his ever coming to live permanently in England. The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, (Mr. Canning) had said it was very natural that the Duke of COD. bcrland should prefer residing abroad. He (Be. Lushingtor)) thought so too (hear, hear); and there were some very cog ftra reasons why the Duke should have this preference. But wherever hit Royal Highness might be disposed to live, he tire& it absolutely a duty on the part of the Legislature Ma take care that the young Prince should be educated in Enghted, and unless, therefore, the grant were made upon that condition, he should object to the motion. Ht thought that 6,000!. a-year fbt the purpose of procuring that education was a great stun, and that Parliament was going to the extent of its liberality in granting It; and if it should ultimately make the grant, he thought it by no means an important point to secure its being properly appro. priated. Mr. T. WILSON said there appeared to be a great dilate:we of opinion as to the propriety of the grant being made, as by the Resolntion, as it was doubtful whether the sum • ed would be entirely appropriated to its specific purposesiteWlNalher it was to be as an increase to the Parliamentary grant already mob to the Duke of Cumberland ; and which increase had on a former occasion been refused. He thought. therefore, that unless it was monody stated in what manner the sum now proposed to be granted should be appropriated, the House would, by agreeing to I the Resolution, in effect be saying, that the House of Commas was wrong in its former rejection of the proposed increase. what'll' showing that it was right in making that increase now. He thew fore could not help concurring in the amendment, because he con. sidered the Parliament was best performing its duty in marking the precise object for which this sum was to be granted. Mr. C. W. WYNN observed that as he had been one of those who joined in opposing the motions for granting an additional sum to the Duke of Cumberland on the former occasions, he felt it tie. ecstasy to explain his motives for supporting the motion on the present. lie did not think that by doing this he was in the slightest degree acting inconsistent with the votes he gave in rejection of the former grants ; on the contrary, he thought his conduct would be quite consistent. It was, he remembered, said by those who supported the motions on the former occasions, that the grant was as much for the children which the Duke might have ae for the Duke himself, and the answer given to that was, that if there should be any children of the marriage of the Royal Duke, it would then be the duty of Parliament to make a province for them. That pledge the House was now called upon to redeem, and for that resspn he was fully prepared to give his support to the motion, lie could not however agree with the amendment. Ac. cording to the reasoning of the Hon, and learned Gentleman (Dr. Lushington) the child would be prevented from visiting his parents should the Duke continue to live abroad. lie contidererklt would be better to leave this to the discretion of the Crown, rattier than that the Parliament should interfere. If a future Parliament should he of a different opinion they might alter the Act. (Hear.). By limiting the education of the child to England, it would hare the effect of depriving him of those advantages which every gentle man of a liberal education enjoyed; he would not even be able to go on a tour; or if appointed ton commission in the army, and ordered out on foreign service, it would have the effect of prevent.. ing him. lie considered that it was lowering the dignity of Paine. menu to descend to such minute matters. Much as he appromilli the principle which empowered the King of this country to interim* in the education of the younger branches of the Royal family, yet he considered that such interterence should only take place in case of necessity. Ile thought the education of the child should in gee' nerd be left to the discretion of the parent, and that nothing should be done to destroy or weaken the authority which the parent mot naturally have over the child. Did any Honourable Member Sp lieve that any future administration would send the young hints out of England, unless for a temporary absence only ? He thought not notch had been said respecting the Royal Duke's residing and spending his money abroad. lie thought the Duke of Cumin.: land had a right to spend his property out of England astral' any other person. It was granted to him by Parliament un tionally. (Rear, hoar.) He thought the amendment objecti in point of expedience, and should therefore oppose it, and give his support to the original Resolution. WARRE thought the Right Honourable Gen 'wag had just sat down was pushing the point to a great ustmelee, he supposed the object of those who supported the besimiwelsk erne to separate the child from his Royal Parent aitefieSher, by prevent. ing the young Prince from visiting the Deka, ewe for a temporary period. This sort of objection was not with% the scope of fair reasoning. lie should support the amendment because he thought it absolutely necessary that the House should take every means to have - child edit -aced in - .e the —locate, England. Mr. TILINT said that unless his Majesty's Ministers gave a pledge that the young Prince should be educated in this country, he should support the amendment, but on such a pledge being given, he would vote for the original motion. Mr. PEEL thought the objectiof the Right Hon. Gentleman, and of the several other Members who had spoken in favour of the amendment, might be answered by their agreeing to the motion of his Right Hon. Friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) and proposing to sellout in the preamble of the Act by which the grant should be made, the terms of the amendment now moved. If this could be done he thought it would be very desirable, as it would be mote consistent with the respect due to the Throne, that the answer to the Message from The Crown should he emseistin terms as nearly an echo to the Message as possible. arias sidered the object of most of the Honourable Meadows Cabo had spoken was, that the grant was made by this Men an understanding that the chili should be educated hi , Land. ‘l'hy rot imply this in the preamble of the Such a course was peifectly open for any Member to people. and it would be much more respectful to the Crown deg.* state it in the Resolution. He really thought the only differ/m*o opinion that existed was in point o f form. Every one wished that a power should be reserved to the House to provide that the educa tion of the child generally should be in England. (Hear.) 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A 51Eli s rgE g r - 1. whose mane we itesffil MR letrll, ade k e that the words "to the D o s e support the amendment, because othemeise She House mead ha t n l o wn s sa ecu nd rity pot t i h n iu ds h l o d a: b e e lothu le doi f i t ye oi v i cal t ord o l f :d th ot e mv ori ri:ted g al in ,d al itsum ßesoi amuttgeub ii retain the 5,0001. for his own purpose. to of lifemake Cumberla nd"saques ti on ot Sir J. NEWPORT moposed on Mr. BIIOGDEN said that if the Right lion. Baronet intended amendment now before the Committee had been disposed or, tiered to withdraw. o. w s n as h° ro u n While we were excluded, a division on the first amendment took place. For the Amendment, 64 —Against it, 79. Sir J. NEWPORT moved, and afterwards withdrew his amend. men'. The Committee divided on the original Resolution, when there appeared-- For the Resolution 164—Against it, s . l— Majority, 50. JUDGES SALARIES BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER suggested that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (51r. Brougham) should deter his objection!' to this Bill until some subsequent stage of the pro. cecdings, and not in the I tommittee. Mr. SCA RLETT said he had some objections to the details of the measure, which must of necessity be discussed in the Corn. mittee. Mr. BROUGHAM was willing to postpone his opposition to any future stage of the Bill, but this could not affect the objections of hie Hon. and beamed Friend (Mr. Scarlett). The criANcELLon of the EXCHEQUER coincided with the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite, that the How. Member for Peterborough's proposition must be debited in the Committee; he only suggested that the discussions in the Committee should be confined to this. The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER then moved the ilrder of the Day fur the further consideration of the Report of t h e Judges Salaries, The Report was ordered to be re-committed in a Committee of the whole Hoene. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that an . instruction be given to the Committee to make provision for the retired allowances to Judges.—Ordered. The House then resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House. The Catinstate having put the Resoletion. that 10.000/. be granted to the Chief Justice in lies of the salaries arising from cer tain offices—. Mr. SCA RLETT rose. He said that in his opinion the propo. sition contained in the resolution before the Committee ought not to be acceded to. He disapproved of the abolition of certain sa. Ivies enjoyed by the Chief Justice, because these sautes were connected with the office. The Chief Justice bad been in pos session of these offices from very ancient times, and they had grown out of his situation. It vas true that abuses bad been practised. A system had sprung up of granting those offices to be held after the death of the Chief Justice, and also of selling the offices. These practices could not be too much reprobated. But there was' legitimate source of profit connected with these offices, which arose from one of two ways. The Chief Justice received the tees of the office, or he sold the fees. Now it was proposed to take away all feet from the Chief Justice. He (Mr. Scarlet() did not deny that Parliament had the power to diminish or abolish those fees ; but he contended that Parliament, if they diminished or abolished the fees, ought to make a fair compensation. Now he contended that the proposition before the House did no such thing. It did not sand an adequate compensation. What was the Committee glom odo ? They had agreed to raise the salaries of the Pui.nc fa=l.4oo/. per annum. Inste a d o f 4,0001. to make their 5,500. The average salary of the Chief Justice, as well as be could learn, was about 15.0001. Now the present Chief Justice would be incapable of bartering the rights of his dice for temporary gain, and was it reasonable that s part of the emoluments of his office should be taken away, in order to baud a fund for the increase of the Puisne Judges sale. Au,. This system was moat unfair, and was derogatory to the profession. On this principle be (Mr. Searlett) opposed tbs resolution. He felt that the elevation of the chief per. souses in the Courts of Common Lew shed a lustre on the whole prolFweion. The Bar was in some degree like the Lottery. There were a few great prizes, but there were numberless blanks. The otal expenses of the profession exceeded infinitely the total profits, The desire of attaining to the highest situations in the profession wax an honourable ambition. One mason stated for raising the Puisne Judges' salaries was, that it would induce eminent lawyers to accept the situations. Now this argument applied still more strongly to the Chief Justice, who was the head of the common law courts. Instead of 10,0001. per annum, he (Mr. S.) should propose, as a permanent arrangement, that 12,000 f be granted in lieu of other emoluments. Another subject on which he desired to ob. serve was, the appointment of the Chief Justice by the Lord Chan cellor. This was a most improper practice. An Administration, as durable as he hoped the present was, would find it desirable to have as many competitors for the office of Chancellor es possible. Now, it might be the interest of the Lord Chancellor to hare no competitors in high stations, and to appoiqt men whom the Minis try could not fix upon to fill his office, in case ors vacancy. This, to be sure, had never happened, but it may so happen, and be at. tended with great public inconvenience and injury. The import ance of the office of Chief Justice could not be overrated. As long as law exists, and is respected in this country, that situation must be looked up to with veneration and respect. In conclusion, the Hon. and Leemsd Gentleman proposed as an amendment to the Resolution, that 12,0001. be substituted for 10,0001., in lieu of the salaries now paid to the Chief Justice of the King'a Beech. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he had paid great attention to the argumeuts of the Learned Gentleman, and was compelled to declare his opinion of their fallacy. The question for the House to consider was, whether or not the sum of 10,0001. per annum was an adequate compensation for the office of Chief Justice. With regard to the distinguished individual who at . present held the ohice, if it were made out that the House was doing something to deprive him of an adequate compensation, then there would be reasons for increasing the allowance ; but no such objection applied to him. The average gross amount of his salary for many yearspaat was 9,2001. per annum ; but the Chief Justice had to pay charges in hie profession to the amount of 7 or 000/. per annum. The net profits therefore were 8,5001. per annum. What he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) now proposed was, to sdd to that sum 1.500/., and thus to make the total salary 10,0001. The ',earned Gentleman (Mr. Scarlett) thought this sum was not sufficient, and that it ought to be such as to make Persons of the highest rank and talent accept the office. In this he (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer) perfectly 'greed; but he thought there was a more powerful inducement to accept the office than 2.0001. a year would be, and that inducement was the greatness and im portance of that office. On the whole, he thought a sum of 10,0001. a year sufficient. Mr. STUART WORTLEY said a few words, but was not audible in the gallery. Sir. MONCK thought the salary of the Chief Justice ought to be raised in proportion to the salaries of the Puime Judges, and would therefore vete for the amendment or the Learned Gentleman (Mr. Scarlett). Mr. SCA RLETT, in explanation, said that in his opinion tl:e dignity of the office of Chief Justice could not be made too high. On this principle be differed from those who objected to raise a Chief Justice to the Peerage. It should be reatembtred that a man who made 5.0001. a-year by his private practice, was richer than a Chief Justice who received 10,0001., because the latter had to maintain an expense proportionate to his rank. He did not, therefore, think that 10,0001. a-year was sufficient. lie would, indeed, rather leave the salary as it was, than consent to such an elteration. Air. PEEL said it was clear that the Lord Chief Justice ought M have some fixed salary from the country, and ought not to depend tar his profits on the sale of offices. If he thought it • degradation as the judicial chanter, he would be the last to propose any mea- Rae of the kind; but the direct contrary was his opinion. lie thought that that Judge's salary ought to be fixed, and in estimating its amount it ought to be compared with other high judicial office+. that of Lord Chancellor of Ireland for instance, which was of the some amount then proposed to be given. He was quite decided in the opinion that the dignity of the judicial character should be ills tained by liberal remuneration. After a few words from Mr. S. Woes. see, the amendment fir granting 12, 1 .00/. to the Chief Justice of the Court of King's Benet, was put and negatived, and the original proposition of 10,0001. was carried. The other resolutiona respecting the Judges* salaries were that put anti earned, by which 0,0001. were granted to the Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, 7,000/. to the Master of the Rolls, and 6,0001. to the Nice-Chancellor. 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