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'F e -,~ ~, lir t►e reliefs. lite pap ►y the termitic oa of IMAM worts, to evissi the time for the mimeos of the advises:es. After a few weeds f►om Mr. BRIGHT leave was given. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER afterwards hrooght in the Bill, which was read a first time, and or dered to he read a serood time to mover. The Parket Vessels Limos''s( Bill went through the Com mittee, sod was ordered to be reported on Monday. the HUNTER BLAIR moved far certain retinas relative to spirits distilled is Sattlaad.--Orsiered. Lord MILTON pistoled a Petition from the Owners of Hoists and Lands in the town of Hell complaining of the arbitrary imposition of Rates by the Corporation.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. Serjesut ONSLOW moved that a Menage be meat to the Lords requesting their Lordships would be pleased to dirert a copy of the Report of the Commissioners appointed by them to marsh Records and examine all matters relating so she rights of Peers of (he Realm to be laid before that House.—Ordered. Mr. GREN FELL asked whether it was true, as he had beard, that she Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer • not mean to pees the claim of Gen. Desfouraciux The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was his intention to support the claim of Geo. Deifuorneaux, but be would not give any proemial opiuiuu on the merits of that claim. NEGRO APPRENTICES. Mr. WILBERFORCH rose to c ill the attention of th e House to the condition of •uch overfly* us had been found nu hibird.slaving shipa. After the puss of the Abolition Act, an Older in Council bud testi, issued, directing t, it GoVelliON Of our Colo. hies where negates .rescussl front slavery by the cologne of the vessels on boairl of which they might Le found, should be lai.iled, in provide fur their Twine apprenticed, or taken into the army or navy, as they might sirefer. In pursuance of that order many such negrues had beet' apprenticed, some for bruittvii years; and some fur longer periods, and oilieis haul been taken into the army End navy. The term of the apprenticeship of many of the for- Hier kid already expired, and that of others would ►hortly expire, and many of the latter had been discharged Irma the service by the reductiori of the avy'and the disbanding of the West laths regi lariats. Many et these were found on the expire tima of their service to be nearly as unable to provide hue themselves as at the first moment of their re trna! front the ►lave ►hips. It therefore was a n object los well of humanity to the individuals, as of interest to the communities into which they might be cast, that they should be removed from ell fear and danger of again falling into slavery, and that they should be put its the way of providing for them selves, nod breumi..g industrious and useful mem bers of ►ociety. The tawnier in which those indi viduals should he disposed of was is question of great sacety, and in orders.* a satislactuiy arraisge m-ot, it was first of ull speceinsary that tile names, number's, and gnalifications of each should he as ertained. Many who had returued to Sierra Leone had urea settled iii villages, *bete they exhibited a pleasing, arid eucoureging spectacle of order, indus try, rod improversieht. Ile was not swine of any iteceasity for soling Inure out she subject at present, and caticluded by moving an litinitile Address to ibis ilajeaty, pea) tog that lie would he pleased to direct returns to be made of all the Africans in the several colonies and islands in the West holies and elsewhere, cirttioistanced as be had described, di.- tinguishing their names, ages, sod qualificationii, a hether apprenticed, or serving iu the army or envy, and the dates and terms of their apprenticeship, or have! or military service, nod the period ugliest they became entitled to their discharges, and that such measures may be adopted as shall be eepedient for their future protection and provision. After a few words from Mr. WARRE, Mr i GouL• BURN, and Mr. BERNAL— . Sir R. Wtt.sotr said be wished to know in whet steamier the increase in the returns of the number of slaves in the island of Jamaica under the Registry Act of 1817 over the number returned under the census iu 1815 could be accounted for. He *died this net with a view of imputing any blame to the Government of Jamaica, but in order to re move ally erroneous impression which the difference its the returns might produce of the increase having been occasioned by fresh importations of slaves. Mr. GOOLBUIN said the difference was probably occasioned by the circumstance of the census in 1814 being ordered with a view to the imposition of a poll -tax, which would give to the proprietors au interested motive fur the concealment of the real number of slaves on their estates, which the Registry Act of 1817 did not bold out. Besides of.ich, under the census persons not having a cer t.ia number of slaves were exempted from making any return, whereas all were obliged to make re. tutus under the Registry Act. The motion was then agreed to. Mr. MARTIN, of Galway, oaring to the bate period of the Session, and to the Bill which he had contemplated not meeting with the approbation of many of the Members of t Ire House, requested permission to withdraw the notice which he had given of a Bill relative to the Punishment of The Crime of Forgery.—Notiee withdrawn. Mr. DENMAN presented an amended Petition from Gcoegs Edward., the person employed some years ago in lb. attempt to weigh the wreck of the Royal George, pray :erg that his case might be investigated.—Ordered to be laid on the table. The Metropolis Wider Supply Bill was read • second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday. HUSBANDRY HORSE DUTIES. Lord Mt LTon moved the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Husbandry Horse Duties Repeal Bill. He said, it had been his intention to propose the iusertion of *clause which would re move all doubt as to the liability of small farmers who occasionally let their horses out on hire for drs wing coals or timber to a surcharge for the horses whirl) they so Let, but understanding that much doubt was enteitsined of the possibility at present of introducing such a clause without defeating the objects of the Bill, he should forego that intention. Ile hoped, however, care would be taken by the Executive Government to prevent any hardship of the kind alluded to from falling on the persons of whom he had spoken. After some observations from Mr. Calcraft, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Bright, Mr. Smythe (of Cambridge), and Mr. Denman, the 8.11 was read the third time and insisted. ' REPORT OF THE SUPPLIES. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for bringing up the Report of the Committee of Supply. Mr. Gou LIMON brought up the Report, and on the motion that the Report be now read— Mr. CALCIAFT ruse and said, he understood theft: were in the Report no less than one hundred and two Resolutions. One of those Resolutions, , ipht it he meant particularly to oppose, we•, he be- ~.--. lieved, about the fifty-Alit, under the head o'fOlaims of General IDesfoortseaux, which was for a sum of 40,0001. He should therefore saggest to the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the ExcheqUer to withdraw that Resolution s by way of pre'verding hint (4r. Cslcraft) from opposing the whole of the Report. ( Hear, hear, hear.)—That, he thought, was a good way titconsuieocing a negOeirtion in favour of that economy which they lad heard so much talked of last night, but of the practice of which they saw so little. lie wished tb iinpress upon the minds of every one who heard him, that here was an oppor tunity offordetl them of the practice of retrench ment, in one instance at least, in which they might with safe consciences acquiesce, as Witinist any re duCtion either of the army or navy l or any other establishment, nor the abolition of 'any place or pension whatsoever, they might aid in the promot ion of that object to the extent of 40,000/. He should take as the ground of his opposition to these claims the 'Report of the Comptrollers of Army Accounts, and a Minute of the Board of Treasury: These claims were said to arise out of occurrendes which took place in the island of Guadeloupe in 1794, when it was conquered by Sir Charles Grey. It !, was said, that because Sir Charles Grey. for the aecousasodation of the sick and wounded Of his army, took possession of certain - hospitals, which had been used by the French Government for a similar purpose, he took upon himself all the Con• dirions of the agreement by which the French `Government was bound to the owner of those hospi. tals. In the expulsion of the British, two months after their occupation, two of these hospitals were said to have been destroyed, and reparation was claimed on the ground that the French Govern ment had undertaken to make good any loss arising from their damage or destruction. Bat no proof was adduced that Sir Charles Grey ever NW such an agreement. and no claim was preferred or even heard of until the year 1810, when Sir A. Cochrane again took poossession of this island. There the in dividuals preferred a claim to him. on the subject of which he referred them to the British Govern ment. No application was, however, made by them to the Government until the year fBlB, when this claim was first heard of hy the Government here, twenty Sean after the pericoi of the trensuctions on which it was founded, and with two intervals of peace having occurred iii the interim. U pan the claim being then brought [lnwood it was referred to the Comptrollers of Army Accounts for investigation. The Hon. Gentleman then reed some extracts from the Report of the Comptrollers of A nay Accounts, iu order to chew that to manly of the cialllllll there were no vouchers, and is every instance where they were examined the unfairness of the claims immediately appeared. lie next adverted to the minutes of evi dence taken before the Treseiury, 111111 it appeared strange to him that the two Lords of the Treisury who hell • been pr. seat no that occo lied ab sented themselves from the House on Friday sr.'s night, when the claims were discussed, from whence lie judged that lied the y v been present lie should have had th e ir v o tes. - The Govern ment had offered 1,4001. to General Desfour neaux, to defray the expenses of the hoepital for our sick, and io this lie had no objection ; but he thought lie 11‘41 said enough to spew the )!nose that the claims should he rejected.— Strange reports were abroad respecting the inter ference of other countries in ibis matter, and amongst other individuals the name of a French Banker was mentioned as having written to Mem bers of Parliainetit, and personally solicited their support in favour of the claims. For this, however, he had no proof, it was merely a report ; but if this was not a proper time to carry into effect the professious of economy and the resolutions of the House passed last night, and to save the country 17,000!. he did not knew when the time would arrive. Mr. T. WILSON thought the reports alluded to were discreditable to the parties flout whence they originated, fur they had cast aspersions on indivi duals without sufficient attention, by no means war ranted. The lion. Gentleman then read some ex tracts from the evidence, and said that froth all the testimony received it appeared the claims had been well founded. Mr. Wittig said. the more ht considered the question, and he had paid great attention to it, the inure was he divposed to adopt the sentiments of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Ca'craft). Mr. GRENYBLL proposed as an amendment, that the sum of 3,5001. should be substituted fur 20,0001. Mr. House Strum sa seconded it. Mr. Wis. Page expressed his opinion that the House should adopt the amendment just proposed. Mr. HUDSON GURNEY said that as it appeared that these claims bad been overrated, it might not be an improper suggestion that the claims should be recommitted to smother Committee. Mr. KEITH Doual.“ expressed himself favour able to the full extent of the demands, and com plained that Gentlemen had not come better in firmed to the consideration of the question. Mr. PEEL said, that lie attached no weight what ever to the opinions of the French Government on the subject, lie had himself given the most im partial attention to the question, and he came to this conclusion, that i the claims of General Destour neaux were most unfounded, and these were times when no single grant of public money should be made without the clearest and most undoubted claims ; and when lie compared the minutes of evidence, and the well-reasoned argument of the Board of the Treasury with the Report of the Com mittee, much as lie respected the merits of that Committee, he could not consent to their Report. Mr. MANSFIELD suid he should support the amendment for the smaller sum. Mr. MONCK said that from the nature of the case he was obliged to vote in the dark, and lie was more disposed to tun the risk of granting a claim urgently made, than reject a claim founded in justice. Mr. !avian supported the claims, and con tended that they should not be rejected as untrue, because the authotities iu support of them were French and not English. He could by no means concur with an Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Calcrsfi), that the vote of last night pledged the House to do an act of injustice. The Hon. Gentle matt then defended Inv own conduct, and said, he bad no personal inte►e►t in bringing it forward, lie was solely actuated by a feeling of justice. Lord Btxxlsts opposed the grout, but if lie ~'"~'~' were compelled to decide fur one sum or art other which had been proposed, he would vote for the smallest one. Lord CRANBOREE said, that if he had moved an amendment it would have been for the . sum of 1,400!. As it was, he thought that the liberal course would lie the best, mud he would support the grant of 3,500/. The CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER con sidered himself bo•ind by the decision of the Com mittee, unless the House found reason for deviating therefrom. That some compensation was due he hrd no doubt—how much he had not yet fixed in his Mind, and he waited to determine that question until the sense of the House should be more ape• cifically shown. Ste F. OMMANNEY, amidst laid cries of g , Qees lion I" objected to the grant of any sum wintery: The House divided— For the original Motion Against it • tHijorki • 47 On bur return to the gallery the House was in discussion, as we understood, on the amendment. Mr. T. Wilson, Mr. Gordon, Mr. Irving, and Lord Binning, said a few wo►ds each. The House dividsd again on the amendment— For the Motion Against it ..... •. ..... ▪.• i ' • ..‘111 Majority In the course of the other liesolutioos being pro pored Mr. HUME took occasion to ask how the clothing for convicts was supplied, whether by public or private contract ? Mr. H. Cm vs said, that until of late the contract had been held by one individual. If the Hon. Member would look into the accounts he would find that the whole expense of a convict was not more than 74/. per annum under the present regu lations. Mr. Hung wished for an answer to his question, being convinced that the public could be supplied in no way ►o well as by public contracts. Mr. H. CLive repeated his former observations, and wished to have time to give a more satisfactory answer to the question of the Hon. Member. Mr. blvstE did not wish to urge the Hon. Gen tleman, and therefore proposed that the supply bhoul4 be postponed till to-morrow. After • few words from Mr. H. CLivn, Mr. Huns, and Mr. A RBUTHNOT, the risolutiun was postponed according to Mr. Hume's amendment. The resolution was shortly after put agsin, and adopted, on condition that the information asked by the Hon. Member for Aberdeen should be itu mediately produced. Mr. HUME wished the fees of the Fee Fund to be stated under the sepasate heads from which they were received. He thought also that the total fees of all the off►ces ought to be taken its one sum, and credit taken for the full amount. Orr the Resolution for bunting 25,0001. for the expenses of the Mint— Mr. Husle wished to know if this sum were for the establishment, or for expenses of coinage. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, that the money was waisted for the coin Age, the Bank having given no tact that tbere would •he a considerable gold coin age in the course of the year. On the Resolution for granting 3,5001. for print ing 1,700 copies of the Journals of the /louse of Commons— Mr. Hums proposed to reduce the sum to 2.000/. so he knew a person who would perform the work quite as well in all respects as at present for 1,5001. less. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, that it was the intention of Ministers to seek the assistance of the Hon. Member in a Committee for considering how far it would be possible to reduce these Estimates, and the labours to which they referred. to a more eco uotnical and convenient system. He therefore put it to the Hon. Member, if it were necessary to press his tnotion under such circumstances. The SPEAKER explained the manner in which the printing of the Journals was conducted, which left him no discretion as to the amount of expense, his duty being merely to take care that the work should be done. M►. ARBUTHNOT explained the manner in which the expenses were drawn from the Treasury, Mr. H. SU➢INEB attributed the great amount of printing expenses to the indiscreet and thoughtless manlier in which Members multiplied orders for papers. Mr. G. BENNETT said, the question was not how many papers were printed, hut if it was neces sary for the printer to receive 1,5001. more than the work could be done for. Mr. Hums, under the pledge given by the Hon. Gentlemtui. consented to withdraw his motion. Mr. G. BENNETT complained of copies Gf the minutes being withheld from Members like himself, who were too poor to pay fur them. Most of them were left on hand, and yet they were denied to those who had the best right to them. The some might be said of the eul•rged edition of the Sta tutes, which were chiefly valuable to Members of Parliament. He would put in • claim in behalf of hims,lf and all other poor Members to a copy of that work. Mr. 11. SustNElt observed, that there was • more unique and u•eful edition in eve►y Court of Ju•tiee and of Quatter Session, and therefore there could lie ow public benefit from presenting Mem bers with copies of the Statutes at large. The SPEAKER described the circumstances which made the Statutes, us printed by Parliament, so valuable. So little was the work sought alter or preserved, in the printing of the early volumes, that they were disposed of to booksellers about town. As the work went on, it became more va luable from its extent, and the rarity of much of its contents; hut by this time the Ilotioe had taken awry from the Members the right of claim ing copies of the work, oil account of the iirgli gritee and 'huge of that privilege, which he bud stated in regard to the early volumes. As to sup plying Members with copies at present, or for the future, prospectively it would not incur much ex pense, add it. would only be to order sit many more copies of the work as it proceeded; but rete m p t c. tively it would attnount to a very heavy burn, which must be incurred for resetting the press, with regard to all die volumes now printed. Mr. G. BEEN ETT only wished to have the copies ou hand giveu out among Nitolbtr., together . with 'Copies ht the succeeding volumes as they should be printed. After ■ few words from Mr. H. Sumner, Mr. Gurney, the Speaker, and Mr. HUMP. the Resolu tion in cptestion was agreed to. Mr. Huila wished to know where they could find the accounts of the whole amount of the expense intlirted for printing the Records of Scotland, for managing which he raw a grant of 5,400 f. to Sir D. Hunter Blair, of Edinburgh ? Mr. ARBUTHNOT and Mr. BUTTER*ORTH said a few words each. The SPEAKER explained the item 'Abided to, as being granted for bringing the work, which was one of ettraordinary difficulty, out of the press. The Resolution was then agreed to. _ . On the Resolution for granting 3.0001. for print ing the Journ.ils and Reports of the House of Commons being read— Mr. Hums sa►d, he *as Informed that a proposi tion had been made to the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite for performing this work at one half the price. He hoped the of f er would he attended to. Mr. ARBUTHNOT expressed his readiness to give every attention to matter. On the Resolution for granting • sum fur con fining criminal lunatics— Mr. Hustx ro►e and said, that it had come to his knowlege that some persona were confined as eri minal lunatics who were in reality in their perfect senses. Early in the Session he had presented a peti tion from a pe►son who, on the report of the physi cians, was described as sane in his conversation and conduct. but absurd in writing. The fact was, he would fill three or four sheets of paper with matter which might well be expre►sed in s quarter of a sheet, but he (Mr. Hume) doubted whether • man should he confiued merely be cause he had the cacorthes scribendi strong upon him. There was also the cave of Hatfield, from whom a Petition had also been presented by the Member for Weymouth. tie thought the House ought to be assured of the proper application of these sums before they agreed to this resolution. Mr. BENNETT thought from the difficulty there was in distinguishing madness, it was a subjtct that the House ought not to interfere with, it was much better left in the hands of his Majesty's Govern ment, who could have no desire to keep the patients one moment longer than was necessary. Mr. CLIVE said, that both these tinhoppy persons were subject to sudden fits of in•autty, which ren dered them dangerous to the community and unfit to be at large. After a lew words from Mr. W. Smith, Mr. Hume, Mr. Clive, and Mr. N. Calvert, the reso lution was agreed to. On the resolution for granting 6.6311. for allow. afire. and superaunuatioos to retired civil servants lAing proposed— Mr. Hume objected that the item of 1,8651. for retired allowances to persons connected with the Foreign Embassies ought to have been paid out of the Civil List. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that it was qui►e impossible it should ever have been contem plated that the Civil List should provide for all future super/mon:dims. Mr. Hums said, that certainly no exert. of any charge winch properly ought to be paid out of the C►•il List ought to be charged to the Consolidated Fund, as the intent of granting a Civil List was to fix • limit to the sitm.— He contended that the whole of our Foreign Ambassadors and Consuls were overpaid. The Consul at Oporto, for example, received 8001. a year; and at the Brazils !Os. per cent, ad sala:eas was charged on the cargoes of ■II British ships, which was an enormous charge, and ought to be reduced. He alloired that it was authorised by so Act of Parliament, but he thought the Act requir ed amendment. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that when the subject of the allowances to our Foreign Am bassadors was fully discussed the Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) was not then in tlth House, but it was allowed that it was a branch of the public service not at all overpaid—on the contrary, it was con sidered the most unfortunate branch of the public service. Mr. ROBINSON said, the mode of remunerating Consuls might be disputable, but it was matter of isece-sity that in every port where great commerce was earned on such an officer moot exit. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, the names of the persons to whom the allowances were niade to which the Member objected were Mr. Allen. now be tween 70 and 80 years of age ; Mr. Stanley. 80 years of age, and who had been 403 ears in the pub lic service at Trieste ; and Mr. Watkins, who was 80 years of age. and had served above 50 years. Mr. W. SMITH would not oppose the ' , resent vote, at the same time he thought the lion. Alvin her for Aberdeen deserved well of his country for his vigilance: Mr. Hums said, that he was satisfied a reduc tion of one half might be made in the charge for Consuls. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, in many instances the Consuls ►erred without any salary whatever. In all the ports of France the Consuls had 110 salary, with the exception of the Consul- General and the Consul at Calais. The Resolution was then agreed to. On the grant of 21,5001. for Toulonese and Corsican emigrants being read— Colonel DAVIES objected to the grant as to the Toutonere. He contended that as those persons were deprived of their estates at the time of the revolution in France, on the iesioration of the Bourbons any claim which they might be supposed to have oat this country ceased, •nd it became the dusty of the King of France to !provide for them. He had htard a report that the Russian Minister at the Court of France was actually in the receipt of a pension from this country. He should like to beinfornned if that were correct. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said he believed that the Gen tleman alluded to did heretofore receive a pension from this country ; at present he believed it was discontinued, and he would readily admit it would be most improper were it now to be continued. Colonel DAVIES wished to know if he were to be considered as entitled to claim ■t any future pe riod ? lie was glad to observe the Noble Marquis woe signs of dissent, for it would certainly be moat improper and dangerous principle to establish. Ile objected to the pensions also allowed to the Knights of Malta. Mr. AimTimm' would agree with the conclu siens drawn by the Hon. Member were the circum stances as he had stated them ; hitt it might be retollected by the House that when Lord Hood took possession of Toulon it was in consequence of a capitulation, and under that, and for services performed to Otis country, end not to the Royal Family of France, it was that the pensions were granted. As to the Knights of Malta, the amount of their pensions was between 2.000/. sod 3,000!. It was the intention of Government mot to propose this vote in the following year, but he hoped there would be no objection made to the present vete. and then the parties would have doe intimation of the intended discontinuance. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ►aid, that the Toulonese to whom these allowances were made, were officers in possession of allowances to the same amount from their own Government, when the ca. pitalstion was entered into with Lord Hood. Mr. Hume asked if the Dutch were also officers ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied in the affirmative. Mr. BENNETT said, either these officers had taken part with an enemy to their native country, or they nod opposed themselves to the then ruling Powers, in favour of the Bourbons and the Stadt bolder. In the first case he would object to their being considered as entitled to receive a single larilitriv.. and in the other alternative he would my what they ought to receive should come not frorn this country, but from those whose interests they lia,lespoused. Mr. Gontatran disclaimed the principle laid down by the llon, Gentleman, whirls went to this, that we were to receive great services during the war, and now refuse the payment on the score of _ . Colonel DAVISS asked if it were the intention of Government to continue these allowances ? Mr. A autyrnmoT replied, but his answer was not heard in the gallery, after which the Resolu tion was agreed to. The next Resolution was 33,5671. for the Police Ertablirlunent at Bow-street and the Thames Police. Mr. BEN NETT complained of the inefficiency of the police, and expressed his hope that next year the wholr of the subject would be inquired into. Mr. W. SMITH thought the state of the police a disgrace to the country. During the last winter it was abbolntel• dangerous to go about the erects of the metropoli..__ • The Marquis of LONDONDERRY allowed that at one period during last winter some cases occurred which might seem to warrant ■ charge against the police, hut in fact those very instances were rather a woof ihKt the police was most effective. During the proceedings in the House of Lords the horse patrol were drawn into the metropolis, and un doubtedly persons then took advantage of their absence to combine together for the purposes of de predation, but when the patrol were again dis tributed those acts of outrage totally ceased. The increased vote now proposed would ensure a more effectual degree of protection dam hitherto, as it would enable the police to cover the whole surface of the metropolis by a moving force, and also a stationary force, from which drafts could he taken in case of emergency, and no part of the metropolis be left as heretofore bare of protection. He could assure the Hon. Member, that since the new distributioo of the force of the police, the dr. minution of crime had been so marked, that if it were continued little would be left to be desired. Mr. BENNarr quite agreed with the Noble Marquis as to the Propriety of the plan. Mr. Hosts asked when the returns of the Po lice Establishment, which had been moved fur, would be kid on the table 1 Mr. CLIME—"To-morrow." The Resolution was then agreed to. The next Resolution was for 4,250/. for the re pairs of Henry the Seventh's Chapel. Mr. Baba Err asked if any persona belonging to his Majesty's Government were in charge of the monuments, which were in a state of dilapidation highly discreditable to the Dern and Chapter, or those whose duty it was to protect them ? If the interior of Westminster Abbey were compared with Gloucester, Worcester, or any other cathedral, the difference would be most striking between them and the mean, low, money-loviog, grasping, and lucre-thirsting conduct of those who had the charge of these monuments. He never could look at the Abbey or St. Paul's without sensations of shame, knowing, as he did, what must be the opinion of foreigners us well as our own countrymen on the subject. Sir CHA RLES LONG said he felt equal mortifica tion with the Hon. Member at the little rare which was taken of those monuments, designed by the fir►t artists to perpetuate the memo►y of British ►alour and do honour to the country. His Majes ty's Government were in no way responsible for the manner in which they were kept. The Dean and Chapter had that charge. and how they executed it was well known. It was really lamentable that those who made a profit from those works of art should take so little care of them. Mr. W. SMITH said. that on the occasion of his attending the funeral of the late venerable Presi dent of the Royal Academy. his feeling on enter ing St. Paul's was. that it was a receptacle of dirt and cobwebs rather than a place fit to do honour to the distinguished persons who►e remains were there interred. He had heard of* report which was in cir culation that seemed to indicate some mismanage ment of the revenues of that Cathedral ; a doubt ex isted whether a sufficient sum of money would be forthcoming to put the cross and ball at the top of Sr. Paul's in a safe condition, and, as the report went, the munificence of the present Dean (uncalled fah certainly, by the length of time he had held the situation), to preclude inquiry into the revenues of the Cathedral, did himself undertake to dam,' the expenses. He thought the Dean and Chapter of intuvter might appropriate to the repairs of Henry the Seventh's Chapel some part of do money they were about to collect for gratifying the public with a sight of the approaching cereuiony. The CttaricaLLoa of the Exciastuga said, the repairs of Henry V H.'s Chapel were never consider ed as a charge to fall on the Dean and Chapter. The interior of the Abbey certainly was trot in good state, but lie knew that within a short period the Dean mid Chapter had spent 10,000 i. upon it. Mr. A RIBUTINNOT said, that in 1807, the Dean and Chapter, in ■ Petition to the House, that repairs were wanted to Henry the barna) a -~-~ erg t ~~