The Statesman. — London, England, 1812-02-14 00:00:00

Lis own satisfaction ;• but other Members might dif fer from the Hon. Gentleman, and he for one begged leave to differ from him totally and entirely. For Lis part, he placed the highest confidence in the Mi nister. He thought that the Minister had conducted the atiairs of the country well, and that was not his bumble opinion, but the opinion of many who had core experience and were infinitely of more consi deration than himself. But be the talents of the blinister and his Colleagues what they may, it was at least evident, that their conduct to America had been conciliatory ; that it was as conciliatory as was compatible with the 'independence of Englishmen ; who, though they should not wish to be the aggres son towards America, did not, however, at the same time, like to receive insult from her. There was a • deal of swaggering exterior in the conduct of Ame rica ; but he was much desired, if there was not also much wisdom at the bottoms of that conduct, and a wisdom which would, in his opinion, recede in the end from a war with this country. But as to the present motion, could it possibly tend to any good purpose, or was it not rather calculated to produce; *very bad one? He did not much care who was k or who was out; but if the preservation of the marl.l time rights of the country were to depend on the continuance in power of the present Minister, he would support the Minister for the sake of the rights.—fatestion, question .] Mr. WHITBREAD said, although the HON. seemed eager to come t 9 a decision, he hoped thet be would gain the customary indulgence of being al. lowed to answer the arguments of these who had spoken against the motion. The Hon. Gentleman who spoke last was extremely anxious to know what good pnrpose the motion could serve. lie could tell tile Hon. Gentleman, that one good purpose which it would evidently accomplish, was to give him infor mation on the subject of America; fos it was quite evident from the tenenr of his speech, that he was greatly in want of such information. The Hon. Gentleman had made a declaration in favour of the Illinister,---be was ready to place every confidence in him. This was, no doubt, a spontaneous effusion, a gratuitous declaration, springing from his heart, and directed by his understanding. He was even generous without bounds; for he not only loved the Minister, but he loved his colleagues too.—They were all wonderful men ; they were all men of talent ! His praises, though very sincere, as it must Liftsupposed, were, however, extremely well-timed*Or they came just after the grand an nouncement of the Right lion. Gentleman, who, as if he had escaped from durance, had told the coun try in no very obscure terms, and rather with exulta tion, that he was to be the Prince Regent's Minis ter. As far as personal consideration could affect bim, he (Mr. Whitbread)* could assure the House, that he was exceedingly careless who was Minister; but as far as his country was concerned, as far as higher and more exalted motives could sway his feel lings,-he would say, that he most seriously indeed regretted this declaration of the Right HouOurable Gentleman. lie regretted it, because it forced upon Itim considerations of the most melancholy nature ; because he knew that the continuance of the Right 1 Honourable Gentleman in power, augured fatally laud omiuously for the happiness of his country; be *arise such a disastrous fact promised no good, and foreboded every evil ; because, calamitous as had beee.ehready sesr 'intakes; this was the abetting out ofhope ; this wasthebeginning of despair ; this was the consummation of evil. But be would ask the lion. Gentleman still, why was his support of the Mini sters so broad ?—lf the Hon. Gentleman wished to 'be considered as delivering a consistent opinion, was he quite right in lavishing his praises on the Minister and alt his colleagues ?—Was he not aware, that amongst those colleagues there was at least one, who differed from the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, even pa prisscipk; and how, then, could his approbation equally and consistently extend to both ? N—Tear, hear!] The Hon. Gentlemen then ar gued against the denial of the Papers by the Chan. cellor of the Etehequer. He was confident, that if . a motion were made in another place for these Pa pers, the Marquis Wellesley would not oppose it.— The Honourable Member for Yorkshire had refused his assent to the production of those Papers, be clause, iu his opinion, they would lead to angry dis cussions. That Hon. Member had said, that he (Mr. Whitbread) had spoken to night different from his usual manner. He was sorry that he could not say the same of the Honourable Member, for to do' him the justice, or rather injustice, he had spoken indeed most like himself. He had been unfor tunately peaty of ncrinconsistency—he unhappily had not departed from the usual course which he had marked out for himself in that House. The Hon. Gentleman had said, that the production of the pa - pen would cause irritation. lie deprecated the fiery debate and the hot contentions which those papers would p,oduce; and yet, with marked inconsistency,' and elas.at in the same breath, hie said, that Ski ba,A every information which we could wish Were Us ; and that every Member had already in his hands just as much information as was necessary to be the fopne, tiolius of a contentious debate. As to whaLwas said by another Honourable Member (Mr. Stephen) 044 th disappointment he felt at the course he (Mr. W.) . had taken in enforcing his (notion, he could only sly . that he was extremely sorry for that honoura ble Gentleman'adisappoitement, aggravated usit was by the preparation which he avowed himself to have made, of following the question step by step; *oi . discussing the Orders in Oilmen in all their bearings: It was certainly a great hardship on the Honourable Gentleman not to have the opportunity of speaking, fr"r hours, as he had done on a former occasion on this subject ( I laugh.) If the Hon. Gent. had been in dulged with that oppo rtu nity,he would have performed great feats;. he would have shewn how " wront Arne, rica was, and how right Great Britain: he would have shewn how little England had to deplore the Orders Couucil ; how 1. ry slightly her trade had been affected ;—not only how slightly her trade had been affected, but how much it had been ber..Ated—• bow much her prosperity had increased,—how much )ter wealth had been augmented. All these fine, things had been lost, because the Hon. Gentlest:awl could not make the speech he intended. But libel iote: Member resisted the production of the pee' pets. ile denied the Member for Milboarne - the obtainment of his cui kno ; and he assisted to keep beCit- 014.4 inferMigieel WOlll4 imfe 6onecW . . i 9 i• L r . , , i . 1) 1:s 1 1• • k ..' i • ..!. 1 . .. 1 . 1 .. .. .. . • .. • • 1 . ' •11 . 11 11 . 1 • 1 ..11 ...., • 1 1 4 • . ki 1 • r 11 i :I ~1~ 111 THE STATESMAN. the erring statements of that Hon. Gentleman. The IRight Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Ex cheipter), had alluded to others as having been the authors of the system on which the Orders in Coun -1 cil were founded. In the name of every thing that I. was great, and good, and wise, he disclaimed this system as having ever originated with Mr. Fox. If it , originanid with any man more than another, it did with that Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Stephen), whose opinions, published sedulously in pamphlets and speeches, contributed most to thelotroductiou of that system. As well, indeed, might all the calamities under which Europe now sufferi, be attributed Ito that great man, as the system of the Hon. and Right Hon, Gentleman, which now fills our Gazettes with bankruptcies, and has shut us effectually out from every communication with Europe, Nothing could be more unfair than the imputation of the introduc tion of this system to Mr. Fox, or to Lord Howick, his successor : their blockade was that which- was known to all Europe, which was recognised in the law of nations, which was in fact an actual blockade, not a blockade of paper. The Hon.Geutleman then ridiculed the argument dedtited from the idea of placing confidence iq the Administration. This was directly the cant when be first came into Parliament. Nothing was heard of but confidence in the Minister; but in what did it turn out, was that confidence placed ? it was placed in ignorance ' •—every motion for paper and for enquiry was resiste d ; and the con. sequences of that resistance, arising out of the con. fidence placed in the Minister; were now too weU and too fatally known. He then alluded to the en. fairness of the conduit of the Chancellor of the Ex chequer, who, although be resisted the present motion for papers, did not think it inconsistent to read a passage from a paper of the French d'Affaires, for the purpose of provlng_that C A . = had behaved partially to France. He defied the Right lion. Gentleman to produce fair proof of peril. 1 silty on the part of America. When all the papers were before the House, he would meet the Chancel lor of the Exchequer boldly on that subject. Tie next argument, if it could be called one, of the Right lion. Gentleman, was that where he taunted Membeh with furnishil,g arguments against their osto country, by putting them in the hands of the Ante- 1 ricans. lie denied that such arguments were usal against the country. They told, indeed, strongly 1 against the Government of England—against the , Right lion. Gentleman's Administration ; but was 1 the country to be blamed for his preposterous, and fatal, and foolish measures ? Did the Right Hon. Gentlemau think himself the country, or did ht think that its great cause was identified wiCh the ex-' istence of his wretched Administ ration, --of his patch- ed up and broken-up Administration,—of an Admi. nistration, thdt was actually and merely endured ? 1 He had no right to imagine, that the refusal to I espouse his cause was refusing to espouse the cause of the country. The most extravagant proposition with , ' regard to America was, that of demanding that Ante. rica should restore the state of trade, as to British ; manufactures, to what it was before the passing of the ; Berlin and Milan- Decrees, which it was as utterly impossible for the Americans to comply with, as to attempt to remove their immense Continent to the ' . farthest part of the world. When Ministers con- ! tend for such a -monstrous proposition, all ides of negotiation must be 'at an end. A hope was held I out, or a hint at something that was to be done which was unexpected ; but he was at a loss to un. derstand what was meant. He was sorry when on I the eve of a war, any measure should be rejected which might tend to conciliation. lie would wish, if it were possible, to extend his motion, and to move two Addresses ; one for the papers mentioned in his present motion, and the other for copies of the oorrespondenco between Mr. Pinkney and Marquis Wellesley. It would then be seen how far the Noble I Marquis had conducted himself in a tone, or spirit i of conciliation. A division then took place-- For the Motion, 23 I Against it, 130. Adjourned. MINORITY ON MR. WHITBREAD'S MOTION. Guise, Sir W. Maxwell, W. D. North, Moore, P. Aubrey, Sir J. Hatehitron. Comae, 11. C. Burdett, Sir F. Horner, F. Hurst. Hamilton, Lord A. Whitbread, S. Sharpe, Bidlulph, M. C.l nrea, J. C. Illbbert, Baring, A. Herbert, Morris, Baring, Sir T. Busk. Fremantle, Scudaniore, Ts:Lungs—Mr. Wm. Smith and Mr. Croeres. Arr. Mails. prie. 1 . ...... ...... 4• • Dublin 1 , • • Wa:erfurd 1 a 1 .8 • Guam/ley 1 • Jersey I. 00 - Brazil _ _ . PRLCE O 1 STOOKS TOW Oilf AT ONK O'OioC,ll. Nash- • 'lndia Bonds 11.. pr. pet' Cite. Calm 60 Excheque r BM' 99. : per tket. Ved. OM Ditto 30. 911 pr. u = ••:). dis„ 14: , tossoler4irtips4 Lang. Visi. WAIL '7l Utter" •Iticliktsoo9 THE STATESIAN.; LONDON: !In DA Ir l • r&BRU MTV i 4, 1812. We have received, through the medium of the Dublin Papers, accounts from America to the 18th January. The tone still maintained by the Amert. can Government, is that of the most determined hos, tility to the British interests. Notwithstanding the bold assertion made by . PIRCEVIL, in the House of Comment, trade of this country is not material) accounts from all quarters demonsti of bit insulting Janguage. From lawn that, instead of the late pirtial of cotton praying beneath) there, " Imit of leading the manefactuvers bar of their workmen; and there when Manchester goods were to ' /tr. Panama, therefore Mittel', lourishing ises of the . airairip 1 11 4 UPO4 Se big Os* it 4 111111116001 • 4 4 ! ' • 4,4 • . • # • • • .. ..;. . . list may be induced to continue his workmen when the materials are low, even though he has no imme diate sale, but when they are at high prices, he will not do this. But it is not to Manchester alone that this evil is confined.—if. we Idok around the king. dom, the picturelsiki be found gloomy in the extreme. In Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Lancashire, York shire, and throughout the whole manufacturing towns of Scotland, nothing but distress and bankruptcy prevails. So great indeed is the mischief occasioned by the war, that at Liverpool no less than a sixth part of the inhabitants of that populous city are now in a condition to require the aid of charitable relief.— Upwards of fifteen thousand have frequently been re. lieved by soup in one week. By the Report of the Committee for the Relief of the Poor, it appears that during the week, ending the 2-Ith Janeery, 15,350 persons partook of this public benefit; the week preceding 13,856 were relieved ; which thews Alt the evil is increasing instead of diminishing, by the in. creased price of cotton ; and had it not been for the [uncommon mildness of the season, ft.'s believed t►e number, great as it is, would have been mil& greater. Again, when we turn our attention to the state of the public finances, as admitted eves by the CHANCELLOR of the EICIEZQUER himself, wet find additional and, incontrovertable proofs of the distress of the times. The Property Tax for last year, he stated, was deficient In no less a sem than two hundred and eighty-nine thousand pounds. From Yds it appearsy that the gross polo*, of the' trade, foreign and domestie, of Meat Bilbao, fell off In the last year two millions eight hundred and ninety thousand pounds ! This, allowing ten per cent. as the average profit, gives twenty-eight millions nine hundred thousand pounds for the atnaunt of zlefi dewy of our trade in the last year ! ! Here is a proof with a vengeance of the " increasing prosperity of the country." It may well suit the views of Mr. Pr R CEViLy and his servile Journal, the Courier, Co de ceive the public, as they are constantly doing, re specting the misfortunes which the prosecution of the. war has brought upon the oation. They may suc ceed fora while in their profligate system ; but time, which brings all things about, will assuredly inflict upon the heads of a Government so 'wicked as the present Ministry, that retribution which their crimes so justly deserve. - This day the PRINCE ILaYiwzrheld a Privy Council at Carlton-house. The RECORDER of London at tended to make his report of the capital convicts under sentence of death in Negate. The pain which the PRINcE RECENT has so long felt in the hand, and which has made it so difficult for him to use the pen, has at length been proved to pro. eeed from gout. His Royal Highness was advised last week to take the Eau Iticdicimak. He has had a Douche erected at Carlton-house, for the purpose of restoring strength to the sprained foot • but we have not learned whether be has yet tried t hat efficacious remedy. The Chatham, a new 74, was launched yesterday at Woolwich. Yesterday the house of ABRAIILM Got.nsystn and Co. paid another instalment of five shillings in the pound. BETTY, the ci-devant Young Roscious, Las been prevailed on, to accept the proposals made to him by the Proprietors of the Bath Theatre, and to per form four characters. Captain La Masuntan, of the 89th, and Lieut.. Rant Sancta, of the 65th regiment, were yesterday morning prevented from khan a duel, by being arrested by the tow-street Pillows, at the Sslopian Coffee-house. They were bound over, in the usual way, to keep the peace. A Lady was yesterday charged at Queen-square Office, with having defrauded jewellers and other tradesmen to the amount of 9001. The Police Committee, haring closed their Mag. nations of evidence, did not sit yesterday, but assem ble this day to prepare their interesting, jteport for the information of the House. A letter received by a Danish merchant, now in ' Leith, states, that the King of DENMARK has prohi bited French privateers from bringing their prizes into his ports. A French privateer which attempted to bring in an American, her prize, was tired upon by n fort in Jutland. The Amei•ican Papers mention a curioul.circum. stlnnce :--It is the ustial cpstom to adjourn early ou New Year's Day, iu *Tiler that the Members may pay their respect; lu l person to :the President. This [Cd6tuni was, for th al l a ftrot_time, omitted • last New Year's Dalt. A -to-adjourn far that. pareosal Was negatived. tar ' ''• The. four foreigners who are arrived in London 'with a King's Messenger, are not prisoners. They came over in the Hermes, from Corunna. Previous their landitig, a King's Messenger was in waiting.. at Plymouth, to attend them to London, whittler he, accompanied them, on Tuesday last. The Memel'. ger seemed to treat them with the most marked re spect. GOVERNME!".T LIFC.ANNU/Tltf.—The following is nshort scale-of the rates upon which Government are now granting Life Annuities. Thiry are payable half. yearly at the Dank of England, the same as the Di vidends, and may be. received by power of attorney ; but the public are retomtneewled to observe, that they • Casts. 9- •=z* NAVA& PITE I.LIGENG E. PL 1 2. 3".1 1 °U.111' Arrived the Lively, of Chic round White, Master, from Waterford, wi th provisi ons; 'Waterford, Last Tbnr:- day, hreonipany with a.brtg called the Lively, bound to this port, which is not yet arrived ; the Argo, of Lthdon, Willians Henderson, Master, from Cork, with provisions, cam e und ,„ convoy of the Earl Spencer cotter, together with a transport having troops on board ; and the Fastn sloop of war. Sailed the Bristol, of tit guns; Steady gun-brig, f or p ungy mouth; and Harry, 'Frew, for the BISZlie. Arrived the Rambler, Gullirey, from London, bou n d t o D ul.. lin ; and the Harmony, Harrison, from Sunderhol. By letters received here from France, it appears that the 'loop Thomas and John, of this port, Captain Howe, a hica has been missing fur two months, on her voyage from Irel.ind,‘,..B forced on shore cos the coast of France in :Kale of a in.! ; the vewel 4eilky. The crew were saval, but se.,, l and tarp lest. PORTSMOUTH,. FEB. 13. . - Arrived the Bristol man of war from Plymouth. Sailed the Echo, with a convoy for the Dux us; Ltd the \.)r)t Shlr sax cruise. Arrived the Brunswick, Malkie, from Jamaica ; left three Nov. 10, and met with very.severe w&eher, iu %%Neil ,lic 1 44 all her oilman. FALMOUTH, Fes. 11. The Fretting packet for Jamaica; and Ili- 1 - 70rei •:. t tor the Brazils, are gone into the Roads, and Bill Nu( fair wind. YARMOUTH, Fat. 13. Artie& the Britomart from the Islam THE MARKETS. CORN EXCHANGE, 1'c0.14. This day the Market continues nearly us on Wc.dt es lay, very taw arrivals of Wheat or much on hand s in this trade last pric. are fully supported. The same may be siuttml in the trade fui Barley and Malt. Peas and Beans of cacti sort remain w. ;joie vatiatoso. We have some few arrivals of Oats, but not many on bead, and the few sales effected scarcely warrant a variation 'from last named prices. Flour at the late quotation. _ Wheat.... Os 911 1101 ' Fine ditto ll3 IVO ( 1 Rye , 5B Bad 51 e' 43 55 Mak SO 66 White Peas (boilers) 76 Si' Grey do. • 58 61 Brans SMITHFIELD To Odlt K. ....de. 2d. to 60. 2d. Mutton —54. tt. to 131. "44. Veal ....7s. od. to W. 04. Pork Id. to is. Sd. Lamb ....os. Od. to W. Od. HAY.M l 4 S H tr a aw l. Os. • GIOVCf 5l. Os- Tick do. (nrwT 5O 56 Do. ( Fine Old) 52 58 Oats 3O 36 30 Polaerl do. Potatoe do. ' 41 12 Rape Swett l'ine Hour Seconds !MIK LT.—FEs. IL 1, per ssouc of tub. !lead of Castile this d:l5 Rests ..... Sheep .... Calve ... • .. . .... Pik %RK ET. lo 51. 5•.0d. 04. to 21. lib. OIL Od. to .61. 0.. Ud. 3,7:0 There was a report yesterday in the City, that % Spaniard of great distinction had gone over to the French. Letters received yesterday from Manchester state, that several of the most respectable - manufacturers had'heen recently threatened with the conflagration of their premises. The villains, It is added, had even the audacity to send a circular letter to sererathouses which they had marked out for destruction. The first house on their list was that of . MessT s lit' if .kraisnAL, and Co.; and, on Sunday night, these Gentlemen's premises were set on tire and entirely ' destroyed. I.:very precaution has been taken to pre. yea" farther mischief: and strict enquiry is making Ito Irv* out the incendiaries. TREATAIICAL.-.-111 1761', the .following. salaries were paid to perfortners at Covent. Garden Theatre: pet week 161. 10s.—Wonnwian 161. 10s. —Spurn , 141.--Ststma 61.--LEE Lawn 21. LOs.--eDrentx SI. The whole expense of the Theatre per night, except rent and taxes, was 631. 9s. 4d. Theschargo for benefits was 73!. Sir ROBERT Wrz.soN in stating that the French have been uniformly slow In their sieges, wherever the Governors of places have done their duty, speaks of andad Rodrigo in the following words : " But even Ciudad Rodrigo—au almost untenahlt town—a etc° that has not a wall above 12 feet hien and a dry ditch 3 feet deep, without outworks—A place that ought to have been carried by *souk on the woe& night ur day, held out 16 days against their honey aed with a breach that must have been practicable ea the *I or fourth. Not even the valour of an liaftwarri and hls brave garrison could have so r ...med.(' the *freak if the esetny had been enterprising- or skilfeil."—Sir Regain *mow's Campaigns in Poland, p. 88. Now from this description of the Ono, with all praise to the army who took it, and which certainly displayed both skill and enterprize, what is to be the benefit to the object of the war in its reduction ?—lt• cannot be defended by a less gerrisorl that 3000 men ; nor even by that force for any length of time. But a Gazette Extraordinaly, at the experice of k little blood, are deemed requisite to reconcile us to the war and its taxes. HIGII TATASOPI.—John Smith was put to tli. bar. —The indictment charged the Prisoner with similar overt acts to those charged on the Prisoners who hare been already tried; in addition to which, he was charged with assisting the enemy in the construction -of certain warlike machines, Verdict—Guilty. • • A. yet:til l of / the name of 'Sells, was drowned on ::Tuesday paPittney-reach, from-out of a West-roan, 77x Ale*. It turned out he abseotuded from his; ap prenticeship, and was taken On board the 'barge in a stet; Of hunger. The accident happened when is the state of being taught to hold, that is, fixing a cord round the barge-pole to guide it. HOIVSTREET. — Ikiary Gazler, the late Clerk in 1 the Navy Office, was brought to the Office, and tic -1 derwent a long formal examination before Mr. Ilr..tn, 1 Mr. - MattrEtt, belonging to Greenwich Hospital, and other Official Gentlemen, attended. The Pri, toner Was committed for farther examination. Yesterday morning the body of a decently dressed man was discovered under some of the rafts of tim: bar mooted on the South-side of Blackfriars!-brie , ,The tide being out, it was impossible to remove it from its situation until the water rose in the after.: noon, when the timber having floated, it was con: Toyed to the watch-house to be owned. The Waif was druNd in black, and it was supposed the un fortunate person walked into the river the night preceding, in a state of inebriety. _ SrOTCII SM4Ci Illtu,sit's rrirerl. Sails. 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