The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-06-20 00:00:00

ie present inmest,they bad beard nothing of the rd'* planahat were to have been so speedily pro- His present objections were of a two-fold cha r conl.l not place confidence In the declarations vernment, recollecting what bad resulted from ices madeive years ago; and the state ad)** I was each, that the house ought not to separate icing a pledge that the subject should have an tiderstion. The existing system operated most y on the interests of Ireland t it bail endan tranquillity, and it would dieter's its repose so continued. The Onions of plri.lies had pro rat mischief. There was another evil : there were 1,000 acres of glebe land without any glebe )et the Act of Ileorge 11. said, that where tics was worth lOW. there shoo , : be a glebe the evils of non.reeidents and pluralists were mons. How corolla they expect Met such a star I should he eochired ?—(llear ' hear.)—But he rant to behold spoliation and robbery. How ill became Right Hon. Members opposite to a, and those who thought with him, with the of the remedies called for, contending that r, in fact, measures of spoliation: since be it in the Union Parliament on the 26th of March nt I,s:rd Castlereagh " brought In a Bill "to is for tithes," which we, read a third time on of the came month.—(Hear.) He did not re illation—he wasted • fair and eetuitable cow tif the tithes, persuaded that without it the lity of Ireland would be still more endangered. 'l4 conclude with ascarin t r, as an amen dment, ritli the view to the tranquillity sod happiness id, that house weetd Marty in the next Session ,rionideration the iiehject of lishes as connected sonny, with the view of substituting for the nearing and vexatious mode of supporting the fell mad liberal equivalent, fairly imposed."— mr.) 4,OULtBIURN raid he was compelled to differ ► Right Hon. Baronet. He thought it would into agree to the amendment just proposed. lesived to pledge abs Howie to consider the arty its the next Seesion. with the view to the at of • fair equivalent for the present tithes.l a • subject that would require extensive in-1 d tier deepest conideration, if the concurrence I lies were desirahle.—Nothing could be awe than by giving a pledge, to excite an et:pee l:leo could not be realised. Would a pledge lad erase the Irish to he more obedint to 'the ;o; .but the effeet would be to resist the pay tinter altogether. He agreed with the Bon liaronet that the Ooveren:ent of Ireland ought try means in Oak phwet to uphold the respect "the clergy; and to consider of the public in n" resoling from several parishes being held ergynias. and from clergymen not eesiding in ishes. He alighted the fikc; aft they were arfices in hilted. Mal 763 iocumbents. But ell as most instanres of non-residence was often al by the affinity the clergyman met with in suitable emilletce in the parishes. Wiih re that the Hoe. Ontleman (Mr. Hume) bad said ins on the pan of the clergy—nothing could be o the troth 1 for if any vexatious proceedings pace, they anise trim the mode of eoPecting r, and he knew thaela the conktion of these, I lately been a redlastion propqrtionte to the re it—rents. It defiance of the rash 'preps . mt the Aing sated by prow , irly part of the e ve nin g he had consented to his motion on as aunrance that something ef mid be done on the subject. He must say, that the general feeling in Ireland was, that ire a source of great oppression ; and he to for the motion of the Right Honourable Bs- RICE doubted the pledges of Ministers. Mr. gave a pledge as large as that given by the tn. Baronet, to take under consideration the a tithes., and yet the subject was not consider neW not admit that the pledge to be put on would be injurious to the collection of tithes. le of Ireland would feel more satisfied under e that Parliament would take up the question ion. Ile had no doubt that the Irish Members sport the amendment, and he called upon the Gentlemen to agree to it, as the means of pro anquillity in Ireland. oretary PEEL was altogether averse to any lief( given by the House of Commons, lest it be ultimately realized. From all the conside• could give the subject, be felt bound to state w yery great, if not insupera)le obstacles to the of commutation. 101.1tiliAli denied that Ministers bad given ict pledge on the subject. All they bud pro s, to con..ider the question during the recess, he ensuing Session to inform the House whs.- could introduce a practical measureor not. It however, that this subject had already been isideration for a period of thirty years, and for knew, it might be thirty years more under tion, if left nx elusively in the hands of his Ma ,vernm4nt. This was hut poor consolation to eof Ireland. Hut be contended that some st be done, awl :hat speedily too, if it was not that Ireland should continue for ever in a state e and inenhord'mation. HUTCHINSON observ►d that if there were rot forty Irish Members, five of them would amid to vo e against the motion of his lion. le Member for Galway. So convinced were lemon of the 'l' y of this fact, that they m s in all directions to muster their forces in lefeat the object of his Mu. Friend. 'LUNKE*I T said that be considered the .ot of his Right Hon. Friend as premature and is. The Government was charged with hold. o the peppiest!' Irelands's:finite retiree.. lint on w•es perfectly indefinite. Ile had heard in 0 Fp recto of the Hon. Member for Montrose dangerous doctrines—doctrines that went to rrson of all the rights of property. If the of the Hon. Gentleman were tree with regard erdy, they were also true with respect to the He admitted tithes to be a grievance, but me way that rent and taxes were a grievance. red th.t if there were not an acre of land in itheahle, it would not afford the least benefit to the ocenpiers of the lewd. The rent would rise is proportion to the taking uff of any other cbarge.,-.-- Those who would support the principles of the Pon. Member fur Montrose, would do well to declare their intentions. It war incumbent on his Right Hon. Friend (the Right Hon. Boost° to separate himself from the principles of the Hon. Gentleman. Thettight Hen. Baronet could take an enlarged and epmpre• she view of the sultject I he was not guided by the vulgar arithmetic of the Honourable Gentleman. He concluded by stating his belief that it was impossihie to devise any means for the commutation of tithes which would produce ant• temporal effect in Ireland. Sir N. COLTHURST declared his intention to vote for the Resolution Of the Bight Hon. Bart. disavowing any participation in the sentiments of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen. Colonel FRENCH was persuaded that there never would be peace in Ireland, unless a coustuntation gene rally of tithes was adopted. Sir E. O'BRIEN supported the amendment. Mr. R. MARTIN would support anv motion for a com- mutation of tithes, but would not bind himself by the Resolution of the Bon. Baronet. Mr. H1.731E replied briefly. He declined pressing his motion. The House divided, sod the numbers were— For the Amendment of Sir J. Newport, 65—Apiest it, 72—Majority %pilot it, 7. The other Orders of the Day were disposedof,and the Hasse adjoarsed aliThree •'Clack. tftnt*.r. B.LIT INDIA HOUSR. A Quarterly Geneva] Court of Proprietors of Pao fedi& Stock t.:as yesterday held at the Company's House, in' Lend-n hall -street, for the parpole of deb elating a dividend on the Compeny's capital stock he the. half year, coo:tarot's, the sth of January last, and ending on the Stb of July next, which was made special ; in order to take into consideration a bill now pending in Parliament, :ur consolidating the acts. Vp ; lades to the East India private trade, and also ; for decidlog on the propriety of repealing that part ' s et the Act of 1813, which restrikte moots of lee, *ls 350 toes burden from trading terns _Oisespany's pp sessions in the Wait. , Iti C „ On the ntetien of tee ghlaltell (J . ATTISOR, Esq.)the Court agreed to the resolution of the Court of Directors, declaring a dividend of five pod a quarter per cent. on the Company's capital stock'for the half , year, commencing the sth of January last, and end-. log on the sth of July next. The CH•111114121 thee stated, that the Court was M I eembled for the re-consideration of the bill now pas& leg in Pprliament, for censolidating the East India private trade Acts; and informed the Court,, that, since they had last met, a letter bad been mitten by the Court of Directors to the Boagd at .C'4 whiBb should be read. The Clerk rhea read the letter, Wilds was to Mr. Conrtenay, the Secretary of the Bevi; of, trol, in which the Directors stated, that they decidedly otopitdon, that the provision akin, 59d of • goods' by the pri depooited in thote4..aspithat Mitten to wool, should ar stall, eon.; st bad put i was c Court plleati _igaified mewled in the • lissard of Con longer at issue :mew of se way ;ht before the motion, which discussion.--• ape, of no less this country to India, many •f the Directors felt, that, as vessels of that description were allowed to clear oat from Gibraltar and Malta for India, it would he invidious to withhold the same privilege from vessels clearing out immediately from the United Kingdom. He con eluded by moving—" That this Court concur in the proposition for the repeal of the existing law, by which no ship under the burden of 350 tons can en gage in the trade between the United Kingdom of lodia." Mr. Foam immediately rose, and took the line of argument which he had advanced at A* last Court. He insisted strongly on the necessity of placing East and West India sugars on an equal footing; and, having drawn a melancholy picture of the state of the shipping interest in India, he contended, that it was fitting that India built ships should be admitted to the same privileges with British built ls. He could not column that the Company should concede a boon out of their chartered rights, unless they received some reciprocal advantage in return. 'fhe Honour able fientleman concluded by moving an amendment. declarirg that the Court could not agree to give up the limitation, respecting the employment of ships ander 350 tons burdens in the private India trade, unless India built ships were admitted to the right of fall British register, and the admission of East India sugar into this country on the same footing as sugar, the produce of any other dependency of the British empire. Mr. TRANT strongly argued in favour of introduc ing, as much as possible, the produce of India into this country. it was of vital importance to the in terests of the population of oar East India possessions. The trade of India wa at present at the lowest ebb. and every means ought to be adopted for the purpose of improving it. At the present moment, he under stood, no less than five factories in the Madras Presi dency, each of which had employed 15,000 persons were now abandoned, and thus near 100,000 pinups were thrown out of employment. Mr. CRALMIIIS warmly supported the amendment. Mr. P. Moons expatiated on the immense benefits which this country would derive from a proper cola vation of the capabilities of our Eastern territories. I As a proof of the fact, be referred to the ob ion of Lord alacartney, whe stated to the Ministers of his day, that if he were allowed to 'torture those capabi lities without interruption, he did not fear to meet the national debt, which then amounted to 239,000,00 01 . Mr. Cattauxnens commented upon the observation of the Hon. Mover of the Amendment. and ob d that proposed Resolutions were ad a pted and acceded if thededto by Government, it would be a death We 1 Is the R est a t sbt • ariseTlts • sT - lte: • silo* rote for the oriiisal leeitfon. 3k% Q. .TUCNZR conceitittlif oftha Complidy Were' involvail 'ln the preperveten of the' Cottsi Trade. The sonsisfeeturers had here probes bited •by heavy dodos. end. she-astention of the in- habitants was now dirested,to Agriculture. lie con• sidered the continasoce.if those duties for a few years longer would prodifee a depression and distress ruinous in the extreme. ' ThelteAtilaatt here observed that be had just re ceivedi colnoseitinatioo from Government. which ststedlr lion let consequence ,of the lateness of the Sessio4 it had been desererdeed to leave out 'of the Bill anTir thing likely to meet with opposition from the Prnpiletors." Mr. TWINING addressed the Meeting, sod *eget ale Insp.:Whines of the Proprietors' ,esertions to *plot the A 10 . rg discussion followed. in which Mr. C y GRANT Mr. IL JACIIIIOII, Mr. WINDOM. Mr. Mixed and Mt. Eissisetzsix took part, when the etlee . '' Question because load sad poen!, when • " The Cesinsust. after making a few observidietia apse what had fallen daring the debate. declared shat as the souse of the meeting was so stroogly in of the opsepdenent, be sbo id withdraw motion, *1404 pose of prupereeiThy illW brims.' * *lira aaaniasously.,sed the Court adjoarsed. • =lam' L4lr INTRtLiosmes. • 4,VSULT Of KING'S BENCH, Jests 19.. • • ~ c ran ittxb'e CASULit. Mr .tvort-OawareL . sand for stale, calling me thilate Sheriffs of Laden to show eau* why they should at mil certairegoods of Richard Cu 11... which they bad tams in execution for the tine thredros the lief tto io monsp Ta• : o,ra!d .solicitor stated the s al rams which bail ; Ire* rade, enanseradag the sin their poeseision. and respecting which they awn the orders of the Court, to which Mr. Cooper elle in the motion which he tail* Snide on Matt of th defaadant. TIP' Counvimpsircd whether s notion on the sap subject was not still peading, bat , were isforneld fa ibe thirstiest. I They then suggested that the rediiiiii ' well et NM. &Abe ZpOittil might answer the purpose. sr. Sotactvoi.G repihed,lirat tern, accord., the grans coarse of prettiest, world not lie to the late 3 urged the Court to the rale. he older , dm matter might he brought fairly lots dim... Wee. as the Sheriffs world then show the groands onwhisb ed to sell. la CUM JOSTICII Said, that before the I at all interfere to give directions, an ap.• mold be madi to the Sheriffs, sad, ea this . the motion was witiodeawa fir the' .. Is ante tr. Oblet.l2lS AND *TIMIS. ran was beard today agalast the' rate ell. issue. The objection, hi said, to timid"? I tied widest, offered la the ease. The ities4 me, whether ths Jury were well sriiii p t. _ Mr. Weal diet ties le last cosetVii; in • etnreut. • roe 'I us rep • which the defendants evinced of their Magisterial duties justified their verdict. Mr* itiratteativ• bear , leg, a longsnd laborious investigation, emit tftriOus summing-up. the answer of the Jury was—that der found the defendants guilty upon the lest coast. The prosecutor bed sunk • large capital Is matelot; the house; he was Industrious—be was honest—and he was begleeing to enjoy the fruits .f his industry and honesty, when be sou told that his license would not be renewed, and that his labour and his wealth should go for noddy. One would suppose that the report of the Magistrates who made the investigation, would bind those who deputed them. It was a matter of notoriety that those Megis trues bad a previous convection with those brewers ; they were not, as it was - alleged. taken by surprise is the case. A criminal Information had bun pre viously filed against them in that Court. The charge was that they bad a partiality for those brewers; I was, therefore, likely that they were interested In taking away the Hume from Meek, who bad some ' time before left thou brewers. Neither Willis nor Lucas were called to state what took place when they were present. Mesa and Reid were not put before the Jury. These were circumstances from which the Jury inferred a strong conclusion in favour of the verdict which they gam The defendants mast have been aware that the refuel of a licence would reduce hint to beggary—to ruin. It was urged on the other side, that there was a servant of the name of Rollin, master of the tap, but it was in evidence that Rollin was servant of Meek ; it was also in evidence that be 'left his service the June preceding the September he lost his license. Was not that a strong and a power ' fsl circumstance in favour of Meek ? " Tbat man whose presence was a bar to the renewal of the li 15ense left the house three months before the license was refused." There was another objection that be kept a gin-shop, instead of a beer-shop. It appeared there were -two doors to the tap-room ;it also appeared that he was willing to make any change the Magis trates might think proper. The order to alter the doors was made to Sefton and Cottrell, the offer was conveyed to the Magistrates the very time they thought proper to Wage his license. The question was, was it a beer or a gin-ship? Bid they ascertain the relative amount of these two articles of consump tion? Ile offered to produce his books to prove thai his sale of spirits bore no proportion to his sale of beer. When he offered his ho• l ks be was asked what brewer he dealt with ? It was also urged, that there were too many public-housee is the neighbourhood The house had been there beyond the memory of men. It was refitted in an expensive style; it was conducted in a proper manner. There were many houses in the neighbourhood in which the sale of spirits Was greater than the sale of beer, and yet their licences were re. newest. If it were necessary that one of the houses should be closed, then the question should be which was the most proper to be shut up ? There never was a case in which the abused Magisterial authority was more glaring. Their Lordships, he hoped, would not disturb a verdict, supported by fact and confirmed by evidence. Mr. SCARLIITT, jun. followed on the saute side. the Hon. &linkman, b•saintsieed A r al the Goo. 111., providing that goods brought id a just right to the tithes, whiels wire Oar ate, trader Is this country, should hik jest as snob ... ls as H i osan's estate was dm p*ts- ports, having proper docks and warebotA such MM. The OD. Geodesists liad also sanannim 18, an d 19, of the said a to properly which ( lid "Ltccel!dtt4s tnan wall It •• t.. nouns tea importation of hair. and (*ton ww e eIIAIRSIAN then preesidled to etas in of ree emeegvegin—if tims ram of ewer to this letter, the Board of Control was ones a, 111111111 d be tell where it would their intention to have those sessions re-e ,nd if be limited dm biom e of a; ArshblehuP new Bill . O n t hi s po i nt, th e refore, the 1 a year, h did he know dotes et reformers trol and the Court of Directors wore no li t start see aftvir,osstime, to cut down tile theof nonirauwoo and lower, until nothing The Charm*, then observed, that he ka Sr t establishment? invertbis robbery would by which this subject costa be brongl e of-Nary other kind of property. Court of Proprie.tors, except by a mi IT explaieed. would open the question for general Yidthat all the hopes which had been With respect to allo w ing B r iti s h ship rello kelatal of obtaining relief from the pros- than 35t1 tons harden to trade from th Spa, would befrnarated by the presets Bill.— India. mane of the Directors felt. tha -- 4 The SoucrroesOnstaaat. in iiippertiog the r . toiled that ritrerencae were =ode to whks took pies isre the Ciattaittee of the House of Cotumens, is order to prejudice their Lordships. Thi r Lammed S - Heim referred their Lordships to the gpeehrions of the Magistrates, passed in 1816. Semi dt those 'roof, 'edema referred to the mien's , of fittlttilp Politic-. ketoses. and She sale of spirituous liqnso. vw os. ) 1 00. was to the construetion of the Douse - '•• 37 . 4 ad inperer made to the Obj e ction ? l'isPre ' se:n. reeinpl . :Stied up fur the talc of gin. The eVideenC ° .'eY'slielt , ;Memel( proved tiwis the coedit:atoll stfklkeleini;:wee . '1061;6 the objection. hfr. Sepsis ,and liii. Cottrell; 'fused the brim answer the de..ici4tiea. Lhsetor Gaiz • ken voted against .the time". ignore mobsbiliti . i vy's that collinpldid .tot.vot , eiphipi iiiiii,Ai. If Was sweep hi did hot tot* Afraleihirrls. that re: eprittable mai; ewes , ' be did allikiiike s , end lie l elreiif also that Collins never voteseas kiii wth' tag vet • vete equally Milani:est Thi sioesiiiteliey :r it;4;o4, ie c: t 9 , quell /base wi alluded ti, sres.a..ll4o leas assurer *by 0 eliii ie • llk . e id! itititi; 44 tW itta t ' . 4 4 were the . teteidanfs lied . 1. - butt ln.re -s; N. to is tabl . isle, a fast . stb •• b had bees sufficiently i a! i 'd re l... • deolleatiols - Wils t t 'VI —mt. ., . = ' ,lysiiviti 4 ifadi" • • .I. A., .1N '' • IN IEI Or '1 which the Jury believe the stateuiM Wile. Vitriol ? charge wag for a wraps Partiality in %move of II Reid, and Co. of whoa Mr. IVlgrue was a partial The Jetty placid' trent fa ilia tiithhoi Mr. %grill: u tliytiatekWa theFiliirg corrupt partiality hi llaroor'of" 'field; aid this wu a eau of grentlmpartinea'ati the Chide of the defenodants. Owe Obit clieinti•itiii all drcliniag to the pare. lii h. rig aVg - paals years In It aatl integrity. pia; lrihrigibre. a so assay years of esamplar y coadoei, that•koionh guilty of the charge imputed to him 1 • • TheCsic, Justice said that Mr. Jastlcelhot obligated to leave the Coart.•be would hear 'ter on another day. The Ctiart rive. at,haTf-Pairtirt o'clock. - - • ..pRifitOGATIVE cpwrn 111'o 1418#'41114urs;,pailing deject/lances, of Cum- --~. ;~ . y ` _ -1 - - DZIMAND. . The Ceartsiess Agit" crowded with iq.li. tors to hear the Water arggvent.ou die motion, rrkigh had been made on s former day; for a . Citation to thi King's Proctor to appear and see the . doestment -in question propounded - sad proved; ass- testsmieViary paper of his late Majesty. The King's Advocate. Dr. Arrests, and Dr. Jewaset severally contended against the motios.•aa being not at all within the power and jurisdiction of dee They observed that no Instance was so muck aa_auj. raised to have err taken place is which a Royal Will was brought lite conteetation in this Court ; that it was a clear Prerogative of every reigning Sovereign not to be impleaded In any Court of law in his own dominions ; that as it was utterly impir.liftilorhre Court to compel the King's personal appearancetrso nelike eitiltrit wan) Aitlimis,tahlicanws id . ~:i. t ~' • roaor ; that thilairealifto-es - eho hiseeriCkq . " , by his Commiselese. ;though conceived, In wi ••••Se ..,,_' •••• 1 / 4 comprehensive tonna, did not autbothe him to appeDl l / 4 — litrada--#.? in a case like tin present ; that if t he .Court were. to i` / • . 1 cite Man t o appar, it could cot enforce such citation . . iryinaishing biro as eraotaniacinns in case Of his non- •-• t , . appearance; nor colitis justifiably proceed igtinst4,. • his Majesty iiipsweet foe wain of an appenancerxi - .. that if the Court were ma to go on to judgment nelit• •• 1 ., ..... . ittru l t to pronounce for the validity of the paper in' pi, A,z ..,,. -- lance of the King's Proctor, the party proporNioir i-, • ' could take no benefit from such a judgment, a • 7, as she could neither ge into the Court of AiMmill*Ml N. into Chancery to compel the King to pay the legacy - so purporting to be bequeathed by this paper. The Learned Counsel farther suggested, that as the party stood before the Court claiming a right as Princess of Cumberland, the Court, If it entertained the suit at all, would perhaps find itself under the necessity of ping into an investigation , of the grounds of that claim, which might lead to very perplexing god in pleasant results, and though the present was nut a ... time to go into the merits of the case set up, yet (the Learned Counsel said), as the affidavits in support of - the application had been alluded to as forming a strong prime facie case in support of the paper, they must say, that so far as had yet appeared, they regarded it in a very different light ; that the contents of the pa per were most extraordinary and improbable ; that the affidavits (with the exception of the Lady's own) went merely to a belief of handwriting, that the Court the ground of band-writing alone; and that the cir cumstances which were alleged to have led to the writing of this bequest, and which had occasioned its concealment for so many years, were not only mys terious, bat highly enepicious. Finally' they cow tended, that If the party now before the Court had any right as against the Crown, it was to be priced by some other mode, but not by the authority of this Court. After an argument of several hours on thesA topic., I I the Learned Gentlemen having COLICIUkied. Dr. T . I .111HINGTON ',se to reply ; but the KING'S ADVOCATa objected that in a case like the present the strict rules of practirs ought to be ob d, and that by those' rules a reply was precluded. Dr. L'SHINGTON maintained that he had a right to reply, and that great injustice would be done if be were precluded. The Learned Judge (Sir. J. NICHOL!) said that the objection had been very properly taken ; but that in all cases where the Court wished to hear farther ar gument, it had the power of permitting a reply. In the present instance, the Learned Judge said be was himself desirous of hearing what coed be said in re ply to the objections against the application. Dr. LUSIIINOTOM thereupon began a very long and eloquent speech, of which oar limits will permit us only to touch very briefly the principal topics. He said, that his L d Friends had notventured to dis pute the Royal Prerogative of making wills. Now, if the legislature thought fit to sanction the Monarch's making a will, it must have intended that such will should bind him to his successor, whim duly proved ; and how was it to be proved bat in this Court ? Those .• . _ . -°~ ~: - z::~._ :, tilliil • • • - maim A i - i • •f' I • ■