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observa‘ lima without comment, and his first desire was to 'Set the minds of their Lordships algtitispon the tree state of the question. Upon this point his Alejesty's Speech. and the speeches of the Noble • Mover and Seconder of the Address, were perfectly . sniitinct and explicit. Never, indeed, had he beard • dearer commentary upon any point than the speech faf itte..Noble Mover of the Address, contained upon the ineotage in the King's Speech, which related to Hue subject. His Majesty informed the House that he should " lament if certain occurrences that have lately taken place in Italy should eventually lead to any interruption of tranquillity," but that whatever may be the result, the policy which he . should putsae was a aystens of peace. This as satance was no doubt given with a view no less to the true interests of the Continent of Europe than .to those of this country in particular; but anxious. et nerally, as his Majesty and the country would be so avoid a war, under any circumstances, there was • none which they would be more backward to en gage in then a war founded on the principle of inter- Seieoce in the affairs of other and independent States. He was not one of those who conceived that interfer ence in the domestic concerns of other States, tusght not, under peculiar circumstances, be very oil the contrary, be had always mini. tamed that cases might arise when such nuttier trice should be necessary, even for the purpose of self-defence. This, however, was not the time for entering at large into the consideration of the sub ject ; he had no objection to discuss it when the proper opportunity should arrive, and from various circumstances that had arisen, the time, he believed, was not fir distant when the British Government should be required to speak out upon this very sub ject, anti give to Parliament and the public every irifornistion respecting it. But what did the Noble Earl desire? Was his object the observance of a strict neutrality ?--(" No," from Earl Grey.)— Did he then desire that this country should right or wrong plunge into a war, and takes decided part with one of the contending Powers i—(" No, no," from Earl Grey )—l-le hid then mistaken the Noble Earl's purpose, but fur his own part he declared that lie should never shrink from. the discussion of this particular topic. lie was not one of those who conld commend a revolution solely because it was. resole- Imo. He could drew distinctions between a revo lution wherein a nation heal thrown off • tyrannical Government, and one wherein a wild and causeless opposition had been raised against a mild and be neficent Government. He should carefully consi der the probability of success, and the chance of improvement, nor could he overlook the considera tion that no two countries could be placed • eumstances exactly similar. The best policy, how ever, which in his mind this country could pur sue, was an abstinence from interference in the pending quarrel, and, that no measures ought to he adopted but in the true spirit of neutrality. To the proposed diminution in the military esta blishment of the country, the Noble Earl had also referrtd. This reduction ocght to he received as an evidence of the sincerity of the professions contained iii his Majesty's Speech, when it gives the assurance of pacific intentions. It had been felt expedient to revise the whole of our establishments; and he had the satisfaction of stating that he entertained hopes of a considerable saving being effected during the • present year. He also hoped that the time had at length arrived when the expenses of Me year might he provided without creating any new stock. This was the first year since the peace on which such could he said, and it might afford some satisfaction to reflect that this was not the case with some coun tries that had enjoyed the blessings of peace, with far less interruption than had fallen to the lot of this crittetry. With respect to the late prorogation of Parliament, the Noble Earl had said that the man ner "of it was wholly unprecedented. If the Noble Earl had referred to the proceedings in Parlia - went in the year 1781, he would find that the course then pursued was similar to that recently adopted. It was on the occasion when the Irish Parliament had somewhat unexpectedly thrown out the Commercial Propositions which had been transmitted from this country. But who Gould 'oppose that any disrespect was intended . to Parliament by such a proceeding? It may be re collected that it had been intimated in another place that unless the Bill then pending before their Lordships passed their House, the call would not be enforced in the other House. The fate of the Bill did not render the call necessary ; there were ' therefore not many Members of the House of Corn scans in attendance in town, and his Majesty was advised that it would he more expedient and more respectful to defer the expression of his thanks for the provision of the Civil List, until. he should meet his Parliament full et the openisig of the pre sent Session. With reference to the provision for the Queen, a proposition on the subject should be made in the other House ; but should this question give rise to any difference of opinion, it would be most couvenient to discuss such differences sepa rately, It was a great satisfaction to him that the Noble Earl should have found nothing expressed Su the Speech to which lie could especially object, and that his anent to the Address was recomputed. by qualifications of so indefinite a assure as those on winch he had beet. commenting. Lord HoLuatto said that it was not his wish to enter into an extended discussion of the topics con . tainted in the Address, nor should he undertake • detailed examination of the system of government to which his Noble Friend and the Noble Earl op ..posite had alluded. Upon the words " system of . government," the Noble Earl seemed to feel some difficulty, he could notunderwand the meaning of it, and seemed to complain of his Noble Friend (Lord • Grey) for not having been more explicit. This difficulty, however, wits to him no subject of cur ' &i.e. It Was not • weeder that those who one day proposed one measure end abandoned •it the next. who acted upon expedients, and governed their vitalises by . motives of momentary convenience, should feel a difficulty in understanding .• ."I • what' a system of government oonsisted. Still • fest • wonder wee- it that they should not coup. prehend. the ware g his Noble Friend's de- lion, nor by the use , any arguments. rot_ ivoer to show the inestimable advantages that must flow to all parties from the restoratiem of such waysteta but there was onepart of the Speech front the Throne which, if he were to pass over without an explicit declaration of his sentiments, he should not con• ceive that he had performed the duly of an honest man. The Noble Lord then alluded to the measures pursued by the Allied Powers to compel the attendance of the King of Naples at Laybach, cud complained, in warm terms, that tlio-e Poweni which had been enriched by the taxes imposed upon the people of this country, should now threaten to interfere in the domestic concerns of other States, and that the British Go semiarid should content itself on such an occasion with a simple expression of its regeet, lest such events ►night lead to war. The Noble Earl oppo site (Lord Liverpool) had gratified die House with a view of his general principles upon the right of interference in the affairs of Foreign States, but the Noble Lord never stated. that he disapproved of the principle, or complained that his Allies, who were bound by Treaty to consult with him upou the tessera' character of their proceedings, should now, iu contempt of his opii i i ~, is, resolve to pursue their own purposes. It was mere taut to say, " Would you. involve ibis country in war?" He was as unwilling as the Nublv Earl to embark unnecessarily in a foreign war, but he did not think that th►e Noble Earl had as yet reduced this country so for, lied made its character so contemptible among nations, that a serious remonstrance proceeding from the Go. vernment would not be attended with► a decisive effect. He was here standing up as the advocate of the Noble Lord, and he was conviticed from an im press►on of the pusillanimity that uniformly prevailed its the councils of Austria, that if the British Go . sisteateut remonstrated. with the Cabinet of Vienna, she Austrians would. not venture to stir one :step in Italy. The British► Government, however, coutented itself with a vague expression of its re gret should the violent conduct of the Allies.. lead to war. No comparison in respect of importance could, of course, be instituted between the present 'Mins of Naples, and the circumstances that preceded the great French war ; but he well remembered that when the Duke of Bruns wick was marching upon Paris, the very same language was used. It was no doubt bad to become • party to the iniquitous and infa mous designs of those crowned conspirators, yet still it would be much more manly and more consistent with the ingenuousness of the English character to acknowledge such ■n union openly and fearlessly, than by silence, or by circumstances still mute suspicious than silence—by having a fleet . most conveniently in the Bay of Naples for the purpose of conveying the old King from his loving subjects, to countenance the notion, that if not a party, this country fully concurred in an underhand inaniier in all such enterprises. The inference that the Allied Conspirators will draw was•one most ho nourable to the British character;. most honourable to his Majesty's Ministers; most honourable to the Crown and to the country in general. They would say, "Aye, the English would go to war if they ceuld—ihey would give us assistance, liut they are so poor: we have so effect milly cajoled them out and their money, that they cannot afford tie one subsidy." He might apply to such a condition the words of. poet, whom he might quote, as one of our most religious Monarchs had said that - the book nit hit with great propriety be laid on the table of the most delicate and chaste Lady " The Doctor understaod the call, But had not dwaya wherewithall." So it might be said of the British Ministers—they well understood what was desi►ed and expected of them by their Allies, but, like the poor Doctor in the poem, they have not the wherewithal! to gratify their longing..—(Hear, hear.)—He ob served that among the papers published on the subject of Naples, was a Report by the Duke of Campo Chirro, in which it is stated that a Treaty was concluded on the Nth of June 1815. between the Emperor of Austria and the King of Naples, to which was annexed a secret article, by which the King of Naples stipulates with Austria that he will make no alteration in his institutions subversive of, or inconsistent with, the principle of monarchy, or opposed to that system of govern ment which Austria had established in her Italian dominions. Austria, it seem•, knew what the words " system of government" meant, al►hough the Noble Earl opposite was ignorant of their migni. fication. If that article really formed a part of that code—that. unwine code of international law which was then established, and if it were communicated to the Noble Lord and his colleagues, he must say that in their representations to Parliament they had acted insincerely, doubly, and disingenuously, for the character which they endeavoured uniformly to impress upon that code MIN that it was framed for the purpose of defendirg the weaker Storrs from the tyranny and encroachments ofi the strong. This. country had, us he conceived, a strong case for re monstrance with Austria; fur, suppostug that while Austria was preparing fo► this expedition against Naples, England were to say to her, You.seern to be very flush of rash;. you are raising money on very Avowable terms, fur the purpose of carrying on a crusade against the people of Naples. We have a little account to settle with you. He just before you are generoua, and be so good as to pay your debts."—(A laugh.)—Such ■ proceeding reminded him of a 'passage in the mock tragedy in Tom Thumb. He could ima gine the Emperor of Austria setting out upon his expedition, attended by u a hole host of adulators, who abound nu where more than in a German Court: one of these, like the flatterer in the illus trious tragedy he had just named, might say to the Emperor, " Simile progress of your soul pursuer .when England might, like liuneumunca, add,. • a Sr, I've an action against you:" _ - .which action, be it khown, amounted to no less than seventeen millions sterling.—(iienr, I:he Noble Earl hid in the course of his speech. attributed ill the distrait.s of the country to the ie.. creosedsprodectien of corn--(Laughter)—but the true calm of the distresses of the country was the payment-of the dividends of debts which -had been contracted at a low rate, and must now be paid at full value, since the destruction of that system of fraud, under the name of a paper currency, which had so lung overwhelmed the nation. When pressed by nixes, and labouring under distress, as was that night at length admitted by the Noble Earl, the people might derive very great assistance from turning into money those aeliotut of the Emperor of Austria, which Mr. Pitt told the country were so far superior to the French al:signals. The Noble Lord said he had been explicit. Explicit in whit t He had very unnecessarily expressed his opinions about the propriety of iutrrfering with Foreign States; but fallen as the power of this coun try was, lie yet believed that if the British Minister were but to contract his brow with reference to the iiivasion of Naples, Austria would not stir one step in Italy. Lord Holland then ad vet ted to the gt thous establishment of the Constitution in Spain, and remarked that the Noble Duke opposite (the Duke of IVellington), under whose auspices it had at first been created, or who at least had acted in concert with a Government formed. by it, must have felt deeply indignant at hearing any persons affirm that the Spanish Conatitution was such, that no Government acknowledging its princi ples could maintain the relations of peace and amity. He acknowledged that the Spanish Constitution con tained many errors, but if any Furrig,ii States, bar barians from the north, were to presume to dictate any changes in it, he would rather chug to its errors, such as they were, than alter a single one at the bidding of any Foreign Monarch, aided by his hordes of bar, bariairs.—(lleur, Gear.),-He rejoiced that the army had been instrumental in Spain and Naples in effecting the revolutions. He trusted that riot even the Noble Earl would venture to censure the glorious army who on the plains of Hounslow threw down their arms, and declared that they would not fight in the defence of a King who had trampled upou the laws and the constitution of his country. ! Mass gratifying that those who would look to mi litary force as the most effectual security for their power, who would lean upon spears for defence, should find that they had misplaced their confidence, and that the spears might be turned against their own sides. lie had heard it broadly asserted that although the Allied Sovereig ns at Troppau did not expect to receive from Great Britain any actual assistance in their crusade against Naples, they had been promised moral assistance. They were glad to accept even these conditions, for they felt that they could rely upon the wishes of the British Go vernment, and they thence hoped that circum stances. might arise to convert these wishes, and this moral sass stance into some more positive act of friendship. After dwelling u; this point, the Noble Lord said that lie should conclude by .•asking the following questions " Are the diplomatic differences that subsisted between Great Britain and Naples arranged, and is the Gentleman who now resides at Naples the accredited Minister from She Court of Greatißritana " so , is be instructed to give au assurance to Ibe people of Naples that nothing which they cao do in modifying, arranging, and improving their domestic affairs, can be displessiug to the British GOVPTI/Mr01? 4 Was there any secret article d to the Treaty of the 12th of June, 1815, controllitur the Kine of Naples to the as rancement of the internal affairs of his kingdom; and if so, was it communicated at that time to the British Government ?" The Earl of LIVERPOOL declined to give any answer to these questions; but said, that if the Noble Lord wowed make them the subjects of a specific motion to the House, be should have no objection to give to the Noble Lord and the House every information which could be required. Lord ELLENItoRoURH ob.erved upon the greater merit that belonged to one who prevented war, then to the General who triumphed in it even for his country's glory, and congratulated the Noble Lord (Holland) on having discov , !red that war might be prevented in Italy by the British Minis- ter's frowning, or asking Austria to pay her debit. The Noble Lord, however, seemed to forget his own former opinions, that an Emperor could not be sued for a debt except at the head of an army.— Ile hoped that the Noble Lord would specify the terms in which the interference of Great Britain should be couched. Lord HOLLAND repeated, that the object he required might be obtained by a remonstrance on the part of the British Government, which they who knew ally thing about the character of Aus. trian Councils must know would set Austria doubt. ing for et least six months. Lord ELIANDOROUGH congratulated his Ma jesty's Ministers that in the opinion of the Noble Lord their influence was yet so powerful in Europe, that a single expression of their opinions would be sufficient to check the progress of the greatest mili tary power on the Continent. Lord HOLLAND, in explanation, disclaimed such a conclusion being drawls from his words. The LORD CUANCEI.LOR , =I It is very plain that if one Noble Lord were Austria, and the other Noble Lord were Naples, it would be very difficult to prevent them from interfering with each oilier." The Address was then put from the Woolsack, and carried without a division. After which the House adjourned. always au advantage, and he knew many instances sir*, whicitLfontemphtted the reslaratiwn wr that altribi ahetein one law had dose more mischief than could systat of.cmilidenod between' Aso— r overuasent and crease be compensated by the enactment of nine others.—: theyople; thiaold-fishioned, good-humnered prin- true c f ( Vies of hear, hear, front the Opposition Benches.) .reiphi:whiettiormerly. au Irsistad in this eoustry, and paymt --1)8.4.ing from these subjects the Noble Earl which the Noble Lord and his colleagues had contra '(rey) alluded to the relations of this country been so instrumental in dissolviog—(Heor, heur.) full vi Foreign Court*, Ind ip.n this topic he could He should not now, by indulging in wry deviant,. free* Lot suffer the observations of the Noble Earl to lion, nor by the use of any argument*, endeavour . had us - Mai HOUSE OF COMMONS, TUESDAY, JAIIIPART 53. Mr. SPEAKER entered the House about a quar ter after one o'clock, •nd took the Chair at a quar ter before two (a considerable number of Mem bers being then present), on the appearance of Sir T. Tyrohitt. the Usher of the Black Rod. The last mentioned officer then summoned the House, in the usual terms. to attend the House of Peers, to hear his Majesty's Speech delivered from the Throne. The SPEAKER, followed by the Members pre sent, accord:ugly proceeded to the other House. In the course of half an hour the Right Honours. ble Gentleman returned, and without making any communication or delay, passed through the House by the door at the back of the Chair leading to his own residence. Among the Honourable Members who proceeded to the [loose of Lordr, or were present in the sub. sequent part of the night, we noticed—Lord Castle. reugh. Mr. Vainsittart, the Marquis of Tavistock, Lord A. Hamilton, Mr. Tieruey, Mr. Scarlett, Sir J. Mackintosh,. Mr.Gonlbutti,, Sir H. Wilson,. Mr. Ricardo, Mr. P. Moore, Sir 0.1 1 4sel• Mr. Bennett, Sir F. Burdett, Mr. Hoithomoc. Mr. Ca'craft, Mr. Latuhton, Lord Stanley, Lord J. Mosel!, Mr. Alderman Wood. &c. &c. NEW WRITS. A few minutes before four o'clock the Speaker reentered, and having resumed the Chair. im mediately acquainted the House that. in pursuance of the Act in that case provided, he had, during the recess. issued his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown in Ireland, to make out a new writ for the election of a Knight to serve in Parliament for the county of Roscommon, in the room of Arthur Trench, Esq. deceased ; also to the Clerk of the Crown of Great Britain, to make out a new writ for a Burgess for the borough of St. Albans, in the room of W:lliain Tierney Robarts, Esq. deceased ; and a writ for o Burgess for the borough of Yarinowle, l•le of Wight. in the room of Theodore Henry Broad head, Esq. NEW Id EMBERS. At the suggestion of the Sr:LiTsit, the following new Member* theu advanced to the table and tool• the olth*:-- Sir H. Wilson (SI. Alban's), Mr. T. Ellie (City of ()Alio), Mr. Henry Baring (Colchester), Mr. J. H. Lowlier. Lott! Carliamptun, Sir .1. Itiee, Sir J. K. Powell, and Sir F. Blake. EXCLUSION OF /I ER MAJESTY'S NAME FROM THE LITURGY. Lord A. HAMILTON then gave notice that he would submit a 'notion to the House on the eibject of the omirlion of her Majvey's name in the Lilurgy. on Friday next.—(Load cheers from Me Opposilion.) DOCUMENTS ON TIM ABOVE SUBJECT. Mr. WITHSRELL observed, that the Noble Lord haying given notice of a 'notion, tending to am in quiry into the circumstances attending the erasure of her Majesty's name out of the Book of Common Prayer, be should hike the liberty to make one or two remarks-- The SPEAIRER , here interposed, and after apo logising for the interruption, called the Holt. and Learned Member to order. He felt qoite w►tis fted that nothing was more ir►egular than to at tempt to offer any remarks on what was merely a notice of a motion for a future day. Mr. TIERNEY observed (amid a good• deal of confusion io the House, which prevented us from understanding his temarks with all the accuracy we could wish), that if be bad rightly uoderstood the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Wetherell), he had meant simply to say, that lie wished to give notice of some motion resulting from that of Os Noble Lord ; and if such a notice were to be given, when, he asked, was it to be done, so as to pre cede the discussion of the other question, if not now ? Lord CASTLERE•IIB wished, that if the object of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Wethe rell) were ruch as had been represeoted by the Right lion. Gentleman (Mr. Tieniej), he should give notice of Isis motion for to-morrow, or the dry following. But he thought that it might be as well if the Right Honourable Gentleman would let the lion. and Learned Member explain his own meaning himself, tc which his competency could not be doubted.—(('heers from the Trea sury Benches.)—The Noble Lord was then un derstood to complain of the irregularity of the House entrrtriuiug► ■ny questions of another mt. ture, before it had entered on the consideration of Isis Majesty's Speech, and the Address in Answer thereto; but the exact import of his observstions was not nodersteorl in the gallery. Lord Foi.isTotts was of opinion, that it was competent to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman to proceed in the present stage of the business or the House. Mr.. BAN& Es believed, that it seas by no means usual to introduce • motion, or eves. give a notice at the commencement of a Session, prior to any report being made of the proceedings in the House of Lords. If he were not mistaken, the Speaker had interposed, with the view of putting the Honourable and Learned Member (Mr. Wetherell) in possession of the usage of the House, and to inform him that by its practice it was not competent to any Member, on a simple notice of a motion, to indulge himself in any observations on the substance of the same. But it appeared to him that the circumstances ought to be very peculiar, indeed, which would justify a Member even in giving a notice in the present posture of their proceedings. The SPEAKER trusted that the House would' pardon him for having interfered—(Hear, hear)— conceiving himarlf called on so to do.—( Near,. sear.)—Probably it might be convenient to in the Hon. and Learned Member explain his own view of his statement. He had to apologise to hint if lie had taken an erroneous view of it ; but he had cer. wilily understood him to say, that having heard the notice of the Noble Lnrd, lie wished to make some remarks on the subject. And it did appear to him that, consistently with all the ordinary forms of the House, it was• impossible for a Member to do that which would lead to a discussion on a mere notice. Having stated this, he was sure the House would pardon him if he had misunderstood the Hon. end Learned Gentleman.—( Hear, hear.)—lf he had not misunderstood him, he must again put it to him. self and to the House to judge whether he could with propriety persevere in the course in which he was about to proceed.—( Hear.) Mr. Wentancr.t. explained that his object had been to submit to the House a motion preliminary to that of the Noble Lord, its object being to have certain papers laid on the table, which were proper, and indeed neceisary, to be before the House pre viously. to the discussion of the Noble Lord's motion. Lord CASTLICIMAGH. submitted whether it was agreeable to the orders or the wage of the House to make * motion for papers of an important nature without giving any previous notice whatever. He trusted that the Hon. and Learned Member would not persevere, particularly when by giving notice this evening there would he ocher opportunities of introducing his motion and obtaining the papers, if the House saw it fitting, between this day and the day fixed for the Noble Lord's motion. Mr. WETHIMILL said that he bowed with de— fererice to the observations of the Speaker. and the sense of the House. But as a motion had been made which could not be discussed properly nor to advantage, before certain papers were laid on the table, he thought it as well to have these papers Rroduced.before the thscubsiou. He felt satitfied that the inadvertency which had led to tile ptesent discussion was his own, mid not to be imputed to the Chair. He intended now, i, eon►phuuct. huh the wishes of the Noble LorJ, lo wove—iC►ies qf " Live notice," from the Ministerial side/—to give notice—/ Load and general cr►e.s if " Move r move," from the Opposition.)—tle should now move— " That there be hid before the House copier of all Col- Liris and 'manna iu the public Litwrgy of the Church in each Reign, from the Reign of James I. till the pretreat one, in which tbe name of the Quiet's CUllierl has been insert. d from time to time. " Also copies of the Acts of Uniformity, 13th and 14th Charles 11. " Also • copy of the Order in Council Ilfthe 12th Frl)rii.n.. Ny rinse of ranch her hlrjusty's name has hero onward I. the Lisergy." His object in submitting this proposition was, that when the motion of the Noble Lord Awed be brought before the House, it might previously.kaire Lit co put in possession tiresome mat moot taut facts. the knowledge olivine)) was indispensable toward. entering on its consideration and discussion *teas advantage or effect. He had no doubt brat evrrS- Member had individually furl ished friar/eV with much useful information on the very grave aid ii teresting subject which the motion involved ; but the practice of the House was, whenever a prep eni nun came before it, the consideration of Which re quired a previous acquaintance with certain fief*, to have those facts established stud autliensiameal by documents regularly produced and Nadal) its table. He had' no doubt that the omissieu of leer Majesty's name in the Liturgy was incoutusteut, first with the statute, sod uext with uniform ssaage.—(llear.) It was therefore that he wished to hive copies pro duced of the Acts- of Uniformity stud Clawson Prayer, front the reign of James 1. down ta n ne r the succeeding ours till the present. lie had one doubt that soy Gentleman *ha for one comment considered the subject, would say that himself tee ally other person could conic to a decis en the pinta eonsistently with justice or righteous jiMg went, till lie had looked to the usage of lortner lime* and the provisions or law. Without that no alt 111841 could do justice to his own conicience, or obey the dictates of the law. Ile upprebended 1110 D be was quite iii eider w proceeding with Ins mimeos, fur he believed thst without the papers which he was desirous to obtaita, the lionse would on the op-. prosching disconsitni be unable to do justice either to itself, the Queca, or the public. Such had been Lis snotives in iiittodur log the proposittins which had led to such lengthened ii:CU!S1011. The question huvitig been put front the Chair— Loud CASTLEREAGH said, that the Hon. and Learned ttlember had chosen to more for a variety of public documents of an important description. without any previous notice or intonation that such was his intention. As for the documents theniselve.,. it was not contrary to his wish that they should be laid before the House ; so far from it, that it was on these he should ground whstever observations-he might feel it necessary to offer to the House when. the Noble Lord's (Lord A. Hamilton). motion should come to be discussed. But lie put it to the House whether this was the proper lime and mode of culling for their produetiots?—(tiear, hear, from the Ministerial side.)—He put it to the House whether this House was likely to be improved by wane °nile ftrotillatioll bitterly seems in it 1--(Loust cheers-from the Opposition.,l—l-le asked whether this was not a very extraordinsry and- incorrect mode of proceeding to effect the Hon. sod Learned . Gentlernini's object ? He was mitre he could not st this moment say where, or in what particular office r the voluminous documents described in the motion were to he hound. It oars quite impossible for Inut, from the limn of the motion, to say that he could give his assent to it. Therefore he trusted that the Holt. and Learned Member woad withdraw. it.—(Cries from the Opposition of " coo.") — If the motiou were persisted in, the only effect which in his view it could be attended with would lit.. that of obhigiug the Noble Lord (Lord A. Hand toil) to postpone his motion, for the dottuusents could not be in the hinds of the officers whose duty it would be to bring theist up beft.re Friday. It did appear to him that the motion could not be acceded to without t•stablishing a very inconvenient precedent. Ile hoped that it would he withdrawn, said brought en, if thought necessaty, after notice, either to-snoriow or the next day. If not lie should reel it to be his ditty, without sty disposition what ever to withhold the information sought for, to move the previous question. The previous question was then put from the Chair. Mr. TIERNEY said, that as far as be onderstroil the observations of the Noble Lord, be had tic objection whatever to the motions to which he had thought lit lc move the previous question, but merely to the time chosen for its introduction. It was not that his Majesty's Ministers Mt any dis like to producing those papers, but merely that the mode of effecting their production was incon venient and irregular. But it was not extraordinary that the Noble Lord should have discovered some thing to object to in the motion, for it seamed that these were the very papery which had •led the Noble Lord, and the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, to such opposite cooc•lusions with tegard to the omis sion of her Majesty's name in the Liturgy.—(Lood cheers, froth the Opposition.)—lt seemed very ex traordinary that the Noble Lord could not soy when or where these papers were to be had. It was cer tainly very extraordinary, when born the Nobk Lord's own words ►t was to be inferred, that their papers had been carefully consulted, and full: examined before he mid his colleagues had come te the conclusion of leaving her Majesty's name out ' the Book of Common Prayer. lie begged the House to consider in what way this question came before it. A Noble Lord, with whom the lino. and Learned Gentleman had no political cOnUeXani whatever, had given a notice of a tnution for Friday. The Hot,. and Learned Gentlennui then imme diately said that the House could not conic to a satisfactory conclusion fur or against the motion. unless it had an opportunity pre% musty of consult ing those documents, sod accordingly submitted a motion for that purpose. Indeed he did not se how any conclusion could be conic to without them, unless,, as the Noble Lord seemed to wish, they should exercise their judgment on the document , . first, and have them produced afterwards.—(Hear. sad laighter.)—The only question at present seemed to be, where the paper', were to be found ; bat if the discovery of them was indeed a mutter of such J. 111" rrIL