The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-05-08 00:00:00

IMP, 'IIIIIAL PARLWINJYT. HOUSE OF LORDS.TUZSDAY, Mar 7. Mr. TRUNDLE, from the Office of Chief Secretary for Ireland, presented sundry Papers, pursuant to Act of Parliatnent. The Loan ADVOCATE for Scotland, Mr. BLOGDEN,INUI Other; brought up the Scotch Bankrtipti4W,lbeirieh LINEN Bounty, Ai - ECM - els Malt Duties Bills and several Private Bine, :from the Commons.—Road a first time. The Doke of NCIRT,If UMBERLAND presented a petition from Newcastle egainst the Navigation Altera tion Bill.—Laid on the table: The Earl of HAREWOOD presented a petition from tho Merchants, Traders,. and Manufacturers, Of the town of Sheffield. in tbe comity of York, praying, it was un dersfesoi, for some regulation for the 'recovery of small debte.-4.sid on the table. Lord BATNINti presented several petitions from dm' Oweersund Occupiers of Land of several Hundreds in the County of Norfolk, praying for Agricultural relief.' —Laid OD the table. The Countervailing Malt Duties Bill was read a second time. The Excise Licenses Bill went thretashra Committee, and was reported.—Adjourned. • .r~ • -• • •is HOUSE OP COMMONS. • .• .. • astscsiLaneotre. Mr. COOPER preser:e.d a Petition from micelle persons in the county and town of Slip, prayingfbr protesting duties to the Irish Butter trade.—Laid on Mr table. Mr. ERIGHT presented a Petition from Bristol; swaying a revision of the Criminal Lairs.—Ordered to be rioted. Lord CHANDOS presented a Petition from Ayies, bury, stating that the Petitioners bad eked with dismay a proposition made by the Hon. hlember for Portarling ton, for admitting bonded dour into the market for home consampipon when prices shall have advanced• to a certain point: If the Home should adopt the recotit mendation, they apprehended the entire destruction of the rental of the kingdom, and other disastrous con's sinew's. hlrc DUODALE presented s Petition from the Dry-: salters and Curers of Decor in Birmingham, praying to be placed on the same footing as the Drysalters of Ire land.—Ordered to lie upon the table. Mr. S. RICE presented a Petition from a respect able body of Chnstian People residing in Limerick and' Ennis, milling themselves Separatists. They prayed td be placed in the mime condition as the Quakers. Mr. P. BUXTON bore testimony to the respectaW lily of the petitioners. The Petition was ordered to be printed; as was an other presented from certain persons of the same per, sneak., in the city of London. Lord E. SOMERSE I' presented a petition from the county of•Dorset, praying the house not to adopt the peopesition before it for admitting foreign corn out of bond, when the price of wheat should arrive at 655. Orderedoto lie on the table. Mr. CURTEIS presented a similar petition from the county of Sussex.—Ordered to lie on the table. NEWSPAPERS. Mr. HUME moved for the renewal of an order which he obtained last year, for proclamations, adver tisements, add notices, made to the different newspapers, by the vwrions Government offices and establishments, betwixt January, 1816, and April, 1842.—Ordered. VAGRANT LAWS. Mr. CHETWYND. in bringing up the Report of the Committee upon the Vagrant Laws, said, that he had been misrepresented with regard to the part he bait taken in bringing forward the present measure. He had been charged with advocating arbitrary laws, be came he brought these laws before the consideration of the house, with a view to their convolidation. As wen eight any Hon. Member who brought forward the subs ect of the Criminal Code be charged with sopportiag its sanguinary laws. The Bill bad undergone several amendments, which he thought would render it unob jectionable. At the same time, it was proposed that it should only be enacted for a duration of two years, in order to try its operation. Sir R. WILSON considered the Amendment to be as tisfactorr. as far as they went. The Report was ordered to be taken into further con sideration on Monday next. Mr. GOOCH presented a Petition from the County of Suffolk against the proposed admission of bonded corn into the market at the price of 655. A similar Petition was presenteu from the Eastern part of the county of Essex. Mr. WODP.BOUSE presented two Petitions from cer tain Hnodreds in the County of Norfolk, complaining of Agricultural Distress. DANK CHARTER. Mr. GRENFELLIad moved on a recent occasion for Copies of all Correspondence between the Government and the Bank of England. He wished to ask the Hon. Secretary for the Treasury, whom he saw in his place, whether those papers were likely soon to be before the House. Mr. LUSHINGTON said, be was unable to give an answer, and the Honourable Member had better post- pone his question until his Right Honcurable Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer was in the House. MAD EXPiNSZ. Mr. HUME said, they had heard a good deal of late about the 5,000,000/. of dead expense. He appre hended there would be no objection to a Motion for a Return to 'Mew how that amount was made up.— Ordered. A Message from the Lords announced that their Lord ships had agreed to several private Bills. PUBLIC DEFAULTERS. Mr. HUME said, be had on a former occasion moved for a return of the names of all public defaulters within a certain number of years, and he wished to know from the Hon. Secretary for the Treasury, whether the returns were likely soon to be upon the table. Mr. LUSHISOTON riid, that these returns were so extensive In their nature, that it was impossible to say when they would be ready. LL-TREATMESTOT CATTLE. Mr. R. MARTIN obtained leave to bring in a Bill to prevent the ill-treatment of cattle. Mr. G. H. DI NNET asked when the Superannuation List was likely to come before the House. Mr. LUSHINGTON said, that subjects of so much greater importance had occupied the time of the House, and still continned to do so, that it was quite impossible to say, when the Bill of his Right Hon. Friend would be before them. Mr. WELLS presented two Petitions from the county of Kent, praying the House not to adopt the proposition of the Hon. Member for Portarlington, with reiv•ct to the admission of foreign cora into the worker.—Order-, ed to lie on the table. Mr. GRENFELL said, that as the Chancellor of the Exchequer was not in his place, and the usual time of commencing public business had past, be should pro ceed to submit his motion upon the subject of the Mono. poly of the Bank of England. If the removal of that monopoly in a part of the country not within sixty-five miles of London was a benefit conferred upon that part of the country, why was that benefit to be withheld from London nod its vicinity i He considered that mo nopoly to be as complete a robbery upon the public as ever existed, and he should oppose the ',Name for ex- THE 1 *Nip, their Chart* laila isadillappygrlw‘ sigr Ile leered for 4 Rawl' Bpi nice:e 4 eonut of , the,:re titre pgrioOt atiwb It 'hailer ofille flank of gibed inid -fteettlso 4 f ed.:lines thelea Ife I 22, statist; the period of each extension. lirjatitllNtaft,ek signited—bis willing newt to roneent to the inotioo of the Hop. blespber. . Mr. falAtiEßKVldtiniea - witetlier 'the 'loose wee to e cootioard in the pd Attogh.ish gave the Bank_the power of going Itito"the public tqtrket to deal ip . A - unities he in the BilL 'fiwasetion was then agreed to. ' ComtvLso VW. Mr. HUME seeing the Noble - 31311nm, had entered the. House, wooldiaddress a few' Observations to him heroic submitting the notion of Which be had given iflict , . The Hon. Member theOrroceeiled to remark upon the Cohsular Pees paid by ships to the represcu tatiies of this country it foreign ports. He comphtiaed . orate fees being mach higher paid .ili British .Consul s than to those of other nations. I n 1792, the amount iaid to,British Consuls was 10,000/4Q:ow it was 30,000/- tort in increase of three-fold. Hd understood this sub ice to be under the consideration of'shit Government, and he hoped the system would nndergp a revision. He understood that sufficient care was . noceneeised in ap-, pointing persons of clear character to these offices. Ho knew there were eases in which they had been obliged to leave the places where they bad been appointed, to reside, in conseqrence of their extravagant conduct is not only injurious to the duties which they.' r ight to perform, but it elso created an unfavourable, Impression against the'nation4l character. He thought that • prober opportunity should be given for these ' matters to be folly considered by the House. Many of the Consular offices were paid al . in extraragant rate, and some were altogether useless, He "saw no use in Wing a Coosol-General at Paris, The duties for which thin office was kept op might be done by the Secretary Of the Ambassaddr. He understood that the office of Consul-General was only open from eleven o'clock to One. As there would be no opposition to the motion, he trusted that the subject would be duly taken into con sideration by the Government. The Hon. Member then moved,. " That an humble Address be presented to his Majesty, praying that he will order a return of copies of the table or rite of fees, and every kind of charge paid to:Consuls-General, Consuls, and Vice-Consuls, in the years 1792 acid 1821, stating upoo what authority 64 were &emended. Also what COmuls and Vice-Coo ties bad been absent from then situations since the year 1913." i l l The Marquess of LONbONDERRY said he should . tltnost happy to give thd Honourable Member every formation lb his power. The subject was a very em-, Oirtant and neer) , tilfficalt one. It was extremely desi table.that an equalised system of fees all over the world ehrituld be established, abd one which should rednce theta to the loosest possible rate. Indeed it wits desire lii that salaries should be substituted, and that there ilibald be no fee, at ell. The whole subject was under eddilderation, and he hoped that an Act of Parliament would be obtained for remedying the defects of the system. Enron a former 'occasion the Consul-General of the Bra pile, Mr. Chambertain,'had been mentioned by the Hon. Member, and he hoped that an opportunity would soon tome when he may have the means of correcting an ha r' ression which was certainly erroneous. He agreed hat the profits of Mr..Chatiberlaies Consulship were arge, but there were circtimstances that warranted their being so. Instead of 90001. a year, however, as the Hon. Member had stated his income to be, it would be found not to have exceeded one-fifth more of the ge allowances to such offices in other plans. AU the ar rangements that had been made with regard to the fees paid to Mr. Chamberlain, were made with the concur rence of the merchants. The expenses of being in the Brazils, formed another reason of the high allowance to the Consul Grneral.—At the present time the quartern loaf cost 3s. lid. and house-rent was at from three to five hundred a-year. Mr. Chamberlain had also been charged with other ditties, besides those of his Consul. ship. When Lord Straogford came over in 1917, he was left as Charge d'Affaires, and administered the duties of that office in a tanner the most creditable to himself. He afterwards came to London suffering from ill health, and was extremely anxious to take a Consul-Generalship in any part of Europe instead of returning, without any reference to the difference of emolument which he would receive. At the desire of the merchants in London, he did go out again, and his allowances remained as they were. Provisions had been wade to limit the income in respect to any new holder of the office, but to Mr. Chem. berlain it was contended that it should be continued as it was. The Noble Marquess repeated his wish to afford information upon the general question, and his consent to the motion. Mr. ROBINSON assured the Hon. Member for Aber deen and the House, that there was no subject more dif ficult of consideration than that relating to Consular Fees. It was, undoubtedly, advisable to find a better system of management, including, of course, a diminu tion of the number of Consuls, and the payment of those who remained by fixed salaries, which would enable diem to sustain their rank in society with respectability. If the Hon. Member for Aberdeen had the settlement of these matter, he would find it a difficult task.—(A laugh.)—He trusted, however, that it might be accom plished without the imposing of any additional burden upon trade.—(Hear, hear.)—He distinctly meant, with out any additional burden. The question for consider ation would then be, where the sum was to be found to make up the difference between the present amount of salary, and the whole profits of the Consuls, including their tees ? The present salaries were charged upon th e - Civil List, Whether the difference should be made up by a moderate tonnage upon vessels, ar some other charge of a similar nature would be open for discussion; but be repeated his assurance to the House that the sub ject was under consideration. Mr. ELLICE, in consequence of the last observation of the Right Hon. Gentleman, could not forbear enter ing his protest against the idea of imposing any addition al charge upon navigation. The motion was then agreed to. Mr. HUME then moved for a return of the number and names of the several Consuls who were absent from their places to which they were appointed since the veer I el 5. He could by no means agree to the data which had been assumed by the Noble Marquess. With respect to the conduct of Mr. Chamberlaine in particular, he would only just remark, that out of 79 merchants who belonged to the place of his appointment, 72 bad joined in a petition complaining of is conduct. This gentle- man bad received 30,0001. in seven years from one port alone, besides his salary of 500/. a-year. He (Mr. H.) really thought that unless Ambassadors were to live like kings, and Consuls like Ambassadors, each an ex pense as this was altogether unjustifiable. At New burgh Mr. Mellish, the Consul, was in the receipt on an average of 3,00/. a-year, besides the SOW. he received from the Civil List as Consul, and 5001. from the same source as Charge d'Affaires. AtVenice the Consul was in the receipt of 1,01101.a-yearodthougb them wereperhaps, scarcely a dozen English merchant ships which entered that port in the course of the year. The Right Honour able Gentleman talked of altering the system without any additional expense to the trading interest; het be (Slr. Hume) wished to get the present expense red without reference to the quarter upon which it ma charged. , . , Sir R. WILSON made a few observations wilelleamo c lid not distinctly hear, respeettwg the Consular &tab- I Hallman at the Brazils. • • • ility, ei Is of LoNDox DE fox so We motion was alined tt In ULTIJRA L if I ETON presented's eth ry, Justices of the Peace fy of_tim taluitpd LauszL _ _ DistressJind ppyinj for Relief. The . park a the kin g asposi the Noble Lord dote. pruprik **APO. extended to and Grailer IPaintitL• The Petitioavet stated iiommis- o Stock gat they but he thought that Aiken they' name to know of the proceedings in the Mose leaf night, that confidence would he conekderablY•hi"PakZd• .. Mr. 31.1XWELL quid he paid support the tweet rate of Imperil pnty,. because hp conceived that reelec tion of taxation was the prin4pal,if ,tot the only source to which the country could leekfor Mr. J. j Ilk h l concurred in.rise Mattes/at of the Noble Lord, that the distress.was not coufieed to the Agricultueists, Mr. HUNTga:.IILAI that the distress amoog the ,Agriceltraral chwees, was very extensive. bet he though; it weals) be - attributed .to a superabmodance of prodnce- • .* • ' Colour! TRENCH said tbediStress was general. He could not forbear calling the attention of the House to the situation of Ireland, where ;be people were reduced almost to a state of starvation. , This was particularly , within his knowledge as to theCoastieeof Clare, Mayo, and Galway, and the Queen's Coenty. A meeting had been held to-day by several relpectable and benevolent individuals far the purpose of relieving the unhappy sufferers; and he, trusted this laudeble example would be followed; hat be was sorry to olseerve, that in that House timeworn had been suggested, the tendency of Which was to aggravate the •liseasti. Mr. 11. DRUMMOND spoke in favour of the Petition. The lion. Member made some observations respecting the Scottish Union, which we did not distinctly bear. They, however, called forth some observations irons Sir Joan NittreeeT, who referred to the Irish Union, the article of which, he said, be should be sorry to see ex tended. We believe the subject of the remarks of the two last Honourable Memleers was npoo the compa retire claims 9f Ireland and Scotland respecting the Distillation laws. The Petition was then ordered to lie on the table, and be printed. Lord A. HAMILTON then presented another Peti- Goo from the Growers of Barley of the Comity of La nark, also complaining of Agricultural Distress, and praying for rialief.—Ordered to lie on the table, and be printed. • • Mr. WALLACE postponed isie motion for tbe second reading pg the Navigation Bill, peal Monday, the 20th Thar emend reading of the Warehousing Bill was post poned 001,1 Monday next. • AGRICULTURAL REPORT. The Magness of LONDONDERRY moved the Or der of the Day for the House resolving itself into a peen mittee to consider the Report of the Agricultural Com mittee. On the'questien being put that the Speaker should leave the Cbair-:-- Mr. CURWEN inquired whether it was purposed to considir the main question respecting the scale of duty before the consideration of any other of the Reser, lutioes. • The Marquess of LONDONDERRY answered,. that he certainly thought it was advisable to come to a prac tical vote as to the scale of duty before the proceeding to any other qeeition. He would suggest the taking the higher mate of duty first. He Mould for that purpose' be happy to give way to the Hon. Member for Sorer setshire (Sir T. Lethbridge). The next proposition op that subject might be that of the Hon. Member for Wiltshire (Mr. Benet); and be believed they would then come to the Hon. Member for Portarlington (Mr. Ricardo.)—(A laugh.)—lt would be better to take the 40s. duty first, which was undoubtedly the simplest.— (Laughter.) Mr. J. P. GRANT wished to know whether the revo lution to authorise the grinding of foreign corn would be hrongbt forward or not. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said it ter taioly would. It was merely postponed for the present. Mr. HUSKISSON wished it to be understood that by taking a part in the discussion as to protecting duties, ke did not givenp his opinion on the propriety of encou raging a free trade. Lord A. HAMILTON said, that when the NobleMar guess brought forward his proposition last night,he(Lord A.) considered it as a bona fide Resolution ' and that the Noble Marquess was in earnest. He never could have believed that the Noble Marquess would have made such a speech as Ilk efid in the outset of the present subject if he intended af terwards to bring forward a Resolution which he self could not recommend. The system of .discussion which had been adopted 'was such as if it were applied teeny proceeding oat of Parliament he should not, besi tate to call a humbug.—(A laugh.) Thep/moons who bed petitioned the House could not but consider the whole of the proceedings es aumekery upon their distress. In deed, the House bad not yet Igen told by the Chairman of the Agricultural Committee whether he approved or disapproved of the Report he bad himself brought up. Mr. GOOCH said, that being thus called upon, he could not forbear stating that when the Report had been agreed upon. the Hon. Member (Sir E. Knatchball).' asked him whether he intended to move for leave to, bring in any Bill on the basis of the Report; and ,that in substance be answered that so importeat a subject ought to be introduced to the notice of the House by his Majesty's Ministers, and not by so humble an individual as himself. The,Noble Marquess had then offered bring the matter before the Bosse, and his offer bad bees accepted. A conversation then foltowea - between Mr. J. BEN'ITT, the Marquees of Lonnoratiltaiti, and Mr. LOCKIIaRT, as to the mode of taking the opinipn of the House (whenit should have gone into a Committee) on the proposed scale of import duty. Mr. ATTWOOD thee addressed the hoaasond.mende derable length, contending that these partial &sear 'ions tended to lessee the character of the house. lie. submitted that the whole question r g our dies trees, ought to be folly gone .into. Agricultad Committee had put forth the mast obsess. sod . tame sistent opinions; and their Report be, thaeulhumetimpht ought not to beamed@ she basis of the preeredhugaialf the house. The distress of the cowry he cosaidpeall attributable to the weight of taxation co-operatteg id* the measures affecting the currency. And yet they were told that they must abandon the laud, not the taxes.— (Hear.)—Taxation upon agriculture had nearly doubled, and what then was the situation of the individual who had to pay in fallen prices an augmented taxation? The prices bad fallen every one knew. but not the taxes. What had become of the argument that Agriculturists would not boarish if the taxes were rernevt4? Wbat be. client of the theory of the Hon. Member for Portarlinr ton about 10 per cent., being the only extent of the de preciation in consequence of the change in.the standard of currency? They. had bees employed the last eight years is effecting a change ia the standard of•thn .value of limey. and during that. period they hed-oenttereddm raugeetut and distraction. throughout titeeesaliep... le the mist of thin deatrectiaa,they wars tatted ..upet. :to consider what was the effestaf ,this it affected those who paid it ftles coo :c -r, afagricaltural produce frog the pressure of tax46. l bad doubled ; and if any part of thi s b a d b een p redeeed by the change in the value of money, consequent on the alteration of the standard. These were the questing they were called upon to mosider at the time they w ee .suffering from the weight of taxation, the Properties of which they were inquiring into. H e could not a gree with the lion. Member for Porta r li agtoa i n his opisioas oUlse infallibility -of gold as a. easadaaL theogbt it was subject to as many fluctutioos as other c oauao tlities. He knew of a variation at different times to the wok of -40 and 40 per met.. at the same time that core was not subject to any each materiel changes, Ti, Hun. Gentleman made some sestet:tents in suppo r t e f I t position, which from the low to df voice in whi t * they were delivered toe were unable tithear. The RM. Member concluded by observing, the the attempt to re. store the prices to what they were before the introsim Non of piper money was ridiculats. Mr. RICARDO said he had beard with arlioiratiei the speech of the Honourable Me m b er a Ito had just mt down; but although he possessed great talent, aid spoke with e full knowledge of Iris subject, he ho committed many errors. He seemed to speak as th ough he (Mr. IL) bad always been a Intoner ,of paper Mr- Culatiou ; as if he had nut foreseen the evils of a es e . fancy subject to no role, and liable to be increased as the pleasure of the Bank. Bat the' lionouroble Gentle man was- misled by what be had read on the subject of remunerating prices. Why it was no differenc e to the farmer whether lie was paid in one cummy or another, provided •he received a reinaneratiog rice. H e b ai l ci r i t h I .: o k° t e a t n t e i s o o n a oi l 1 u I t e k va sa tu h he e o uu needs though he ut only Yw talis that i f b a dw e e t r o t 44 41 sr: t aken what fu r I be le the said in 1819. It was true that a greater depreciation et currency than heel existed previously to 1119, prevailed at that moment; but for - that lie was not auvxeraY.. Ile comidered that this was attribetohle to the measures which preceded that period, nut to any thing isbidi he did or said. lie would not undertake to say hoar gr ri t the alteration hod been, but lie believed it had not been more than ten per cent. Many of the 11 0 . 0orA bk u m . tleman's errors arose from Isis mistaking the mean i ng of the term depreciation. A Currency Sias depretdated when it idol below the standard by which its value was regulated. It was true that a standard might rise, and a paper money also; hut Vit did not rise -o tomb as the standard, it was depreciated. But if the Honourable Gentleman could thew that the value of gold had fini • tuated to the amount of forty and fifty per cent. he would be copteuted to give pp the whole .a.-gumeat tat him. Tint Honourable Gentleman asked why they should not make corn their standard as well as gold r He confessed he knew no better reason than that gold had 'Nulty' been our standard. lint did the Honour. able .Gentleman eerloosly mean to contend Olt corn ought to be our standaid, and that the Bank rectors, instead of giving gold in exchange for their notes, should give so many quarter; of corn?— The Hoe. Gentleman .seeesed to nese u though be (Mr. Ricardo) Wan in •favosr of taxa:ion. He knew, and had always said, that the weight of taxation mom affect him out of whose pocket it was tarn. But thee with regard to the agriculturist, were not the narrehant and the mauttfaetnet subjected to, and affetted in the same way ?. If taxes were imposed upon the production of corn, It o'ould be increased in price, hut it was pos sible to tax a country without its being felt, by raising the value of the currency in proportion . The Honour able Gentleman talked of these being 'deism' to abandon the land. He, for one, certainly would advise all pel otas& te leave off colti rating land which did not return them remunerating prices. He was sat.afieJ of his prin ciple,. He considered them inreinerabie, sk.honeh hr aught not have the Went of the Hon. M em b e c who spoke last to illustrate them. Mtn i few words from Mr. ATTWOOD in explanation. the Home resolved itself into a Committee. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY rose, and said that be thought it would be more for the general hate- rests of the montry, if Hon. lientletueo confined them selves to some practical view of the subject, and not wander into extraneous questions—(Hear, hear.) —The great interests of the country would be sacrificed by tn• veiling from the propositions which were subjected to the consideration of the House. He thought the lion. Member (Mr. Attwood) ought to have reserved himself for the question which the Hon. Member for Essex was to bring before the House. He (Mr. Attwousl) ad wetted to the bullion question, which brow:lit forward the lion. Member forPortarlingtoo, the gladiator on that snh hect. He would take a more Relined 6.4 d, and confine imself to a narrower view of the subject, with a hope of effecting some practical good for the coun try. He believed they were all agreed that some tiling ought to be done to regulate the importation of core, by a duty. Not less than fire plans had been submitted, all of them endeavouring to nista at some change in the existing system. But be now wished to comas to the three principal questions which he had to offer to the consideration of the Committee. The first was as to the precise point at which the ports should be opened. The maximum now fixed was 80s. but alien the price rose to that amount, the ports, by the existing law, were opened, without say regulation whatever. — With exception of the Hoe. Member for Somerset shire (Sir T.lothbridge), and the Hon. Member for Wiltshire (Mr. Bonen) who had proposed two resA. 'Minns in opposition to the principle, they were all agreed that there ought to be some corresponding re laxation of the price at which foreign co: is should be im ported. lie was fat from thinking that distress arose from want of sufficient protection. for he well knew that pro tection could not glee prices. In his opinion, the pore even of JIM. was In itself a prohibition in ordinary years. He would now advert to the two resolutions proposed by the Hon. Welber for Pertarlington (Mr. Ricardo) and his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Hashisson). The former proposed that foreign corn'should be name ted on a general principle, when the price rose to ;0, ; bat wares house,t b st at a a prior i entry c o cu s h . o . u andldbet hgaitee if n to price should rise to hOs., then t ' hat foreign corn should be let in, subject to a duty. He had himself proposed that the subject to a duty of 214.. wpoashs,houisl (adding be or og eed .. e n c l i k i e i t here), would nuke the charge 305., and the whole amount 95s.—a price that, he thought, would be a coos the e fi x si pense of bringing the corn pine protection. However, before aey thing practical was decided upon, üblic opinion was to he consalted. — He knew that an i dea prevailed among a great body of the agriculturists, that it would not be expedient toopen the ports before the p r ice rose to 80a. But he frit no alarm at the proposition of the Hun. Member for Por. tarlington, or that of his Right Hon. Friend ; for if the daty was to be of an operative character, it was better to begin early Unto wait till a glut of foreign corn w as thrown into the market. However, he did not himself Pupas@ may alteration of the price at o hick foreign MO should be admitted. Yet, as there was a great mass of. foreign corn new in the warehouse-, Ire thought it would be 'driveable to allow it to be brought into market wean than the law, as it now stood; permitted. Up** this point, however, the Numer able Member for Somersetehlre. and the Homerable Member for Wiltshire, were very !minion, opposing the admission till the price rose to tills except In the 'lee of Wes which bad bee. in Warehoeses for a entails tire. Now, wltisrespeot to the male of duty, the-Hon. Mem ber for Somereetshire pro osed 405., which he e wards dieted to , reduce to p 3.55.; bat he might as himr sidd that we should Nat baste any iamb/Mies et :7 1 i foreign corn at all, unless therioe could be anoaturally foidesi op, for a "duty df 05e., with the addition of 101., e~ "~- ~ ,` c 1 ti i . 1 .! . ...7,. r . 1 i 1 1 , • . ~, .. • i ; : j ~ ..• I .. ' 1/k • I '