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roVery he directed only against rectorial property ? If it were necessary to increase the salaries of the lower orders, why not do so at the z expenee of the Bishops, Deans, and Chapters? -It was a petty feet of offending theni ; and the Bill only armed them with fresh ir 'wee while it injured the rectors. who could hart no security for their property, wheat was in the power of any Bishop to take soy part of his pruperty he should think fit. Such at. act of legislatiou must tend to breed feuds arid animosities amongst the different raiiks of the eiergy, and must eve itually injure the church establishment, and the cause of religion. For what good was the 8 . .1 enacted ? Who requested it? Cambridge College caw hostileto it he knew. hens the child of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who had published a pamphlet in its supeort. Defied and the Clergy of London h.td exercise' their dis approbation of the Bill by Petitions to Parliament; and not one city or county had expressed a hope that it would be adopted. But the Right lion. Gentlemae derived is support from a set men hostile to the church establishtnent—the mem bers of the Foreign Bible Society--the Society for the Suppression of Vice—and those dealers in Missionaries who ',ail nearly overturned the power of Britain by eteir late coeiluct in India. To these he was tioeoiledly Averse ; but as the Bill was almost identified with thu present Bishop of Lon don, he had to apprise the House that he had given late !treat cause of uneasiness to the .true friends of the Church, and in particular by • late gift of a benefice to e Missitetery of Bowers, who was a ti ewe of Pohuel, and whom it would even be iseceetee, to qualify :or his thus ion by a form of that douse. Thi. had placed tlic Bill in rather a suspicious point of view ; and from the argil reeete which he had weed, he found it his duty to oppose the House goime iuto a Committee. Mr. lioaetes contended the present Bill was no ' invasion of Church property, arid quoted several instanees from our history, to whew that such 'hanges often took place, from the time of Richard the eel. The proper of the Church was in filet that of the people, a nd certain relative tie; Of; were expected to be by them performed to qualify them for their possession. In the eye of the law there was another party with respect to Church property, be tide the iinpropriator and the Curates ; this was Vie p rod' of the parish, who hail an indispu tat sight Sr) their services ; and the present Bill only stile such a proilition for the Clergy es would triable • ',eta to perfoen with credit epthe Church those duties of ben. ',Diener and hospitality pre sents'! by u religion the . processed. Mr. Lesseesirros supported tile Rill. It was not emitted r the tdinintage of Dissenters, and the Bill was framed to go as fie as any Legi-lative Aet could go at present for the advani ement of the inter, es ofthe ('hunch. The eropo lie, of salary to the Curate was on'e sed proportion to the value of the Rector's ins inse. This a e a j ust principle. At Orlon' he kh iv of no ci imitioti to it, though he y u there so bee as iast week. 'file great source of opposit'on to the Bill had beet J e increase of iufitiene to the nishemi. Tl.. he al ways wished to co tateract ; b e, in ie. present instance be saw no cause of mown, nor were they partie any alteration le tlit present "ill. lie had ever objected to the systcei of appeal Com . ;he Ilikop to the A l'hhiLiiev, ofi be conceived it an appeal rse eadesa ad emsdews. But, from a conviction that the present Bill would be of emit ' ptstilie advantage, he felt inclined to give it his whole support. Mr. W. Suns, not being amemher of the Esta blished Church, was afraid almost to say any thing en the subject. as it seemed to be conitectetl eith party and religious considerations. some of which might be conceived to involve himself; but, never theless, he felt himself called on to support the principle set forth by his lien. Friend (Mr. Creevey), that there should be no remuneration without reference to labour. He objected strongly to the increase of the influence of the Bishops, mud wished that livings. both in the hands of lay impropriators as well as others, should be placed on • better foundation. He perfectly absolved the. Missionaries in India from the crime imputed to them, and thought the evils there had eirigineted in the misconduct of those higher in rank and station. Lord MILTON opposed the passing of this Bill into a law. The grand objection he had to it was, that it gave the most improper influence to the Bihops, who were altogether dependent on the Crown, and who would not fail to extend the in terests of the Crown, through the medium of the regular Clergy,ameng the population of the island. This was an evil of the greatest magnitude. The :l' ut ec te t d ion made by his Hon. Friend, he thought not to Dissenters in name, but applied to such as outwardly professed the Established Church, bat dissented from the true spirit of the 39 Articles, and were the enemies in principle to the Established Church. The more residents, he be- Levee, the less would he the member of sectaries ; but from the peculiar frame of this Bill, he should propose that the Heuer should go into a Cola miter on the Bill, though he should vote against its passing into u law. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT thought the present an instance of legislative interference without being called for. It suggested 110 remedy for the evil it pointed out. No parishes hart preferred a complaint. It had been urged, that it was necessary to in crease the salaries of resident% yet no proof had been exhibited of this necessity. The ground on which the Bill stood was absolutely fanciful and whimsies! ; it went on a suppotsition of a necessity which, it appeared, did not exist. It seemed the Right Hon, Mover had affixed the idea of respect ability among the clergy . to the sort of clothes t hev should wear, or the hospitality of their household. Poverty had hitherto hero the badge and honour of our religion ; but opinions had eltaneed s and it was not now necessary alone that the clergy should be respectable, but should also he rich, — The Catholic religion had one established prin ciple in it, which bad done much for its secu rity and protection from encroachment. Though the higher orders of their clergy might be possessed of wealth, the regular and ofiieiating clergy had 01 the inllitenee over the lower order of the men mueity, which a similarity of lice and equality of income must ever give them under any system of religious government. It was tiOt the wealthy com peer of the 'Squire who would be found to posses the most influence. Increase of salary would fail to make them more respectable. He hod yet more serious constitutional grounds of objectiou ; the system of undue Lifluence given by this Bill over so great • uuniher el clerical freeholders and voters it elections. If it should be necesary to in crease their salaries, sn act should follow to disable theta from voting, as had been done with rs spect to others, in less danger of being influenced. The true rouse of the grievance now existing , was, the neglect of the Bishops in permitting Pjrsons to take holy orders who were not proper suh jects for the situation. These were then left with out either livings or income, and the evils now complained of were the consequence. After such an abuse of their power, was it right to give them mere Ilad they known the state of the clerical entablislinseut, and the number of their clergy, they could not have fallen into the error ; and thus have contributed to the disgrace of the clerical func tion. Perluspo it would be said; the proper place for a Bishop was in the lions& of Lords, or at Court. Little could. be said of such ob jector's respect or zeal foe the cause of religion. The Bill looked one way and proceede4 another ; it pointed out an evil, and offered no remedy.— If a change should ever take place. it should not be of this description. It went to overturn the whole system of clerical property, a consideration which sliould have its due weight on the House; and especially as it might happen they themselves might shortly become the sufferers by similar en croachments on the property of lay impropriators. It was therefore the duty of the Gentlemen of Eng laud to show their disapprobation of such a dan gerous innovation on this defenceless portion of the community. Mr. hisz nuts Surrox contended that great improvements had of late been made: iii the ail ntission of Gentlemen to Holy ()Acre, and sup ported the bill. Mr. WILSCRIFORCE, at some length, rodeo vowed to refute the objections of the Honour able Baronet. He admitted, in one sense, liv ings were property, for they were bought and sokl ; yet he contended they were nut obtained but on a tacit compromise of performance of duty ; non-residence, as would appear from the tett:4.loov of Burnet, Lukin, Tillotson. and all great Divine., was the greatest possible evil in the Church Establishment, and must tend to increase that evil several seemed so anxious to guard against, viz. the increase of Sectaries. Mr. WINDHAM contended that the interest of the Church ought to be supported ; lint in the Bill of the Right Floa. the Chancellor of the Exche goer, h saw an stn inpt to undermine its best in terests. at the same time there was no endeavour, on the part of the Right Hon. Gent. either to ad vance the general welfare of the Church, or to support those who wens immediately affected by the operation of the Bill. ".I.r. Annaba TAMLOII declared himself, in a great degree, friendly to the present Bill. He had applied himself attentively to the subject, and the rook was, that although in thtferent parts of this country there might exist a variety of opinion as to certain speculative questions upon our religious establishment, still lie considered it a necessary • duty to provide for the wants of every class of those unfortunate people. , The Cassicsbsoa of the EXCHEQUER had no reason to deviate from any one principle he had ad vanced in support of the Bill. Sir Joists Isiswroaz declared himself the last man in the House who could oppose a well-regu lated reform with respect to the establishment of Curates. As far as the Bill went to propose a remedy for that great grievance, he gave it his support. Ile must, however, say, it did not meet the existing evil in Ireland, nor was it calculated generally to answer the ends for which it was iii tended. Lord Poectterrea said, as it was a measure of reiMrm, there ought to be a race laid down for it, and that they ought not to go back to a state of Popery at a time of Protestantism. He concluded by observing, that he was decidedly of opinion se-ainst going into the Committee, as he objected to the Bill is NO. The Church of Englund was a jewel to the State, but how loag would it continue an, if they went into a Committee of tnonopolita tion ? Ile believed the Bill went to the degrada tion of the Ministers of the Church. Mr. T. Jowls supported the SPZAKIteS leaving the Chair, qtr he was confident the Bill would re lieve the Curates float pecuniary distress. Sir Cu sates Pates did not like the reamsre ; but would vote for their going into a Commit tee ; he trusted, in thriVommittee they would so modulate the claims of the Bill, as not to affect the pourer Rectors. The Music' then divided ; for the Speaker leav ing the Chair— Ayes, la I--N4,es, 17—Maj , wity, 114. When we w..re aLt'lllll admitted to the Gallery, the House were to a Committee on the first clause, 'tt That the Bill should' extend to Ireland." Lord llttron opposed the extension, as there were many parishes in Ireland where there were not twelve protestant inhabitants, and the enforcement of residence could not be of any advantage. Mr. PERCIEVAL supported the clause, as it wsts the wish of the people of Ireland to 'enforce the residence of their Clergy. Sir Jona NEWPORT said, that he wished the re sidence of the Clergy should be enforced in Ire land ; but his objection to the clause was, that the present bill we: nut applicable to Ireland, for the same means that would answer enforcing residence in this country. would tint have that edict in Ireland, and that this bill would be quite nugatory as to that point. He wished that Glebe-houses were built, and Clergymen residing in them, even if there were net six Protestant parishioners, SO it would be the means, by their example, to make good Catholics. Mr. SPURR:9A N could no' agree with the Ho notiroMle Baronet who spoke last ; he could not see how a Protestant resident Clergyman could make Catholics. He thought the Bill in applicaM d to Ireland, for in that country a Rector may be found possessing 14001. a-year, without twelve Protestants for is congregation, ssithout a church in which to perform divine service, or a glebe-house to live in. He concluded by ob sarviag, that residences ought to be enforced. fir Aaruua WeLLEsttir suppotted the eaten- &ion of the Bill to Ireland, and contended, that if ' Rectors did not reside themselves, they ought to be obliged to pay Curates sufficient to wake them,_ ►espectable representatives. Lori HENRY Pariv thought the bill did not go far enouz!l ; for there was no raft of the British empire in i•• hich the residence of the Clergy ought to br more enfo.ced than in Ireland, and he thought there ought to be a bill, separate from the present, to enfoi , e it; for which reason he would vote agaiubt the clavier. _ . Sir A. WELLESLEY spoke in explanation. Mr. Tteatt F.Y opposed the clause. Mr. PERUEV t i spoke in explanation. The Committee then divided, when there ap peered. for the clause— Ayes, s—Noes, ts—m a jority, The Committee then went through several clauses, the House resumed; the Chairman re ported progress, and asked leave to sit again this day, which was agreed to. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and at FIVE O'CLOCK the House adjourned. EAST INDIA COMPANY. The First Report from the Select Committee on he Affairs of the East India Company has been printed and laid before the linuse of Commons. It states, that open a view of the Company's 'pecu niary concerns in England,dnring the last 10 years, when compared .with the estimate for 1808-9, there are deficiencies in the last and present years, which it ascrilles principally to the following causes, in the followinq words:— Ist. To the disaisished male of the Company's goods ; the sons estimated to be received from such ;ales for the year lana-9, being 1,394 r 5891. less than tlic average of the ten procesliag years; 9,200,901 lass than the svi•ra;• of the Ant live years of that period; 588,183 i. li as than the average of the last five years. 11 would lead your Committee much beyond the limits within which they propose to cchitine this Report, if they were to enter upon the discussion of all the causes to which the gradual decrease in the anionitt of the Company's sales, during the last ten )(tars, may possibly be ascribed. It will appear, however, from the ac co u n t of ~de s du r in g that period, that in the article of tea, which forms a large proportion of their whole trade, no diminu tion has taken place, but that it has chiefly oc curred in the imports from India, and particularly in the different descriptions of piece goods. The increased consumption of cotton stuffs manufac tured in Britain, and the advantages derived to neutral nations front the expense at which the trade to India mast necessari iy be carried on during war, as well its the ohstructioas inseparable front that state of war which has existed with little intermission since the renewal of the Company's charter in i 793, are the causes to which, in the opinion of your Committee, the diminished sale of Indian importi may principally be attributed. idly. To the increased expense of freight and dernorne of the Company's shipping ; the estimated amount of the same fur the year isos-g, being e 76,2511, 1130 IT than the 'mirage of the ten preceding pars ; 276,7121. more than the average of the tint tire years of that period; and 275,79u1. mule than the average of the last tire years. In estimating this charge, to which the com merce of the CoinTany is exposed, from the rote of freight, it must he reeniketed, that the means of defence and consequent security which the size and structure of their ships afford to their valusilde car goes, and to The transport of troops and military stores, must neeees4rily be included in any coin ri , on between the present and any other system whip i may lw suggested. nifty. To the amount of Bills of Eltehaine drama ire the Company in F.nzlatid, from !WM ana Chian ; thitestiniated amount of which for the year 1an0..9 711,40eL more thou the avers;e of the ten pm-m(llaq teens ; 555,970. more than thy aiarne of the first five years of that period; and 94148451. usury than the average of the List fire years. The Report then goes on to stone. that it it, u questionably to those heavy drafts from India end China. on the Company's funds at home, the largest portion of the dcliciettey, in the last 411.1 present year, must be ascribed; but that in conse quence of new arrangements, the amount of bills from China is likely to fell considerably below the average of former years ; but that they have not born able to form any such expectation with regard to the amount of bills from ladle; as any interrup tion in the tranquillity of the Company's to ri tories would create incrtaeed demands On their treasury at home, which can only be avoided by a surphia revenue in India. The Report then states, that " The attainment of th..t object, either by a reduction of expenditure or by additional revenue, or both, is indispensable to the maint e nance of the Company's credit and power in India, and that the Committee will without delay direct their atten tion to that important subject." These the Re port states as the principal causes of the deficiency, Litt that there are others of inferior amount, among which it uotiecs the charge of payments to mili tary and marine officers retired from service, which has been gradually increasing for several years; soil also the increased charge for interest u wu the addition to the Bonded Debt of the ('am patsy. —The Report concludes with observing -Your Committee have prepared an Aecoutif of the probable assets of the Company, on the Ist March, 1809, in which the amount of debt due to them by the public, as the balance of their ac. count, is taken only at £1,800,419, instead of R:2,40,000, which the Company chinas, and I. which nothing is allowed for their property afloat, and which will arrive in England subsequently to that period, thougha large portion of the charges afferent-3 that property will be incurred and paid doing the current year. E.timating the amount in that most unfavourable mode, there will remain a balance of £1,819,587 in favour of the Company. If er.:dit, however. is given for the value of !hat properly, and the sum due by the public is stated at ties amount claimed by the .Company, the estimated balance in their favour will be 9,0304871. COrTENBURGH MAIL. GOTTRNBURON, KAY 30. Some persons arrived here this day from burgh, which they left on the 14th iust. state dmu the last English lctters which were brought thither from Heligoland, were not only seized, but the bearers of them hanged. All intercourse with England and Sweden was forbidden upon pain t..f death. The Eup,Fish expedition, commanded by Sir John Moore, still lies in our harbour, waiting olden from England. A few days since, • the Tribune frigate sailed f.vm hence unit a convoy for the Baltic, three of which were taken by the Danish gun-boats near the Sound. By advises from Koningsberg, received this day s we learn that the whole l'rossian army is nearly disbanded, and that the soldiers have retired to their homes ; not more than 5,001) men remain of this once great and flourishing force. s roc Imo f.M, VI AT 25. Hi; Majesty received yestcid.-.y the following Re port from Itlajor-General Baron .11.Aav,wan1, touching the transaction in the Lit,: of REPORT. I received this tnom►nt, by Assessor Dubber, a repot Admiral Bsroe Cetkrstrom, that your Majesty's heet, slating of three sail 011ie hue, two fileates, two ..tmtd brigs, the yacht Fortuna, anti several transports, thancd anchor en the nth instant is Sandwich toad, at.(l .hut the same evening the Swedish troops, Infanta• and arttal cry, wets disembarked; on the following day, the are' •a Wely, in a Swedish flag of truce, wall the anitexed art ie;e( of capitulation, w hieb we signed the tetb• The Swedish vanguard, composed of cl.•asseurs, entered the town the nth, as the Russian troops bad already marched to Slito. The Chief of Brigade, Lieutenant Firms Fleetwood, marched with the main body to Stitu„ on ae-ousit of th•; Russians having, contrary to the capitulation, pp.ked several guns, spoiled a large quantity of gun-powder, and eat paid the debts which they bad bound themselves to charge. The 18th, Admiral Baron Cederstemn intended is weigh anchor and proceed to Slito, in order to prevail us Ad mire Builisko to fulfil the terms of the capitulation. Assessor Dubbes's report to me is dated the isth instant. May 21, 1533, SpAs.; M. A Sf'kAItSWARD, Maj.-Gen. Commander of the Kalmar Division. •<TICLIII ZELATIVI, TO THE EVLCIUTION fir Till ISLE OF COTIII.•YD . I. Ills toper:id Itessir 'Majesty's troops an to teat-Kate the island within two days, and to deliver to His Swedish Maje :We troops all arms, ammunition, and artillery, 'which they brought with them or took on the island. They are le give their words of honour, that they will not serve, before the exp , .ratou of a twelvemonth, against the King of Swa den or his Allies. IL All (fleet,. and magazir NI, of whatever name or de scripti tttt whir+ belong to the King of Sweden, and which have been ceu , smed by the Russian troupe, shall be paid for at.tl the value of all requisitions which may have been eafori..-d shall also be made good. 11.1. Ruisinn troops ue to take with them all their effects and property, and to march to Shun. They arc them to embark on Imard the same transports which brought them thither—They shall be furnished with a passport, in order that ask) a.y be able to return unmolested to Ass 113f. ur Prtiortata harbours ; and, should they staud in net d of pi ovisioe r. they shall be supplied with them, on making pay ',mut for Coe same. May 4, MO laott. RUDOLPH CEDERSTROM, RADISH, Rear-AS=lra vied Kaig4t. irrocsmout, tiAr 25. llis Itoyal Majeety received yesterday a liteport from Field Marshal Count Klingspor, dated head quarters. the I.2th May. 1808; by which it appears that our troops iu Finland have obtained pomc fur ther advat..sges over the enemy, which however are not of importance, and t.:Jat the Finnish anal re mains in its former position. The Russian troops who wen made prisoners of war in the Isle of Gothlatid, consisted of tit of ficers. 78 non-tousinissioard officers. 994 rani: and file. and 64 artillerymen.—(Stockhulm Gazette cf May 88th.) MAY His Royal Majesty has received a report from General Baron Arturo:it, Commander in Chief of the Western Army, dated head-quarters, Ho!me dal, , 20th instant, stating that the first brigade cf the right wing was attacked on the inst. by the enetny, far supeiar in number, but that nevel theless the Danish troops were repulsed with cow derahle loss, that our array in Norway .till taios itt• former position.—( Ibid. ) the hay tka tur En lig T tr wl