The Statesman. — London, England, 1810-01-24 00:00:00

. • •.~ ; ~, I eqiected to find oily 2000, and a place which they eispi•osed was open and wholly , detencoon, it ap. peered had been regularly forlidied i as loos bask.' as the misery of man could wash e r Se munch for the promptitude of the measure. its would next ask bow it could operate as • direesion im favour of Austria, eves ads sitdoeit bed been son in • time I If it were won to sitt Austria, the di. version &Mid has has. is the side el the Medi- . terranean l fir by ast-dosillas Tames on thdt' side, Beemparte was sosibil to soon hinisett the, oaks of Memos! emd 111‘Donalth .*6 ch wire both most sllfsetusi is do ridstaion of Vi. f o l einea. By what fatal intension lilististers chose the infections 'unites of Walcheren as the scene of their military operations, it was impossible to tell. It was knesen to bea mist pestilential cli. mate, and they chums the most pestleetial see. we for theiroperations. They had their choice of 'resod, .it was not the case of a retreating army whisk stu compelled to penuethat line of marchi l but they were advisedly sent there by hlinisten3 II they bad read Dr. Pringle of the diseases of they army, they would have feend,stball not only Ire: stated the nature of that climate, said the causes of that epidemic diseue se fatal to our troops, but they might also have known, that iu . forekr treaties between tbegwlss and the states General, when the former used to hire .oat-their troops 'to the latter, it was expresiely stipulated that these troops should never be mint tO serve in Walcheren. If they did not kaitw•thh, their ignorance was seedy as criminal as seathog our bravo troops to perish *mle with a knowledge of its fatal effixts. Their mieenadoet, however, did not stop here. The troops hods* oe Old last of July, and be. fore a emegth hod 414,10,. it. walk ebyleas tearer,' miditary Mee t AU .111 the objects of the Eipetli. tics NA kW. aid as Gellseaeaderhad so dis tieeikrehaMl BO the aavorostoat at home ; yet 'aloes the oh ne OS a la thatswistp can. W I •atidilla . huff what ass - tho :0•• I 'Plkt e l i ar si t il* es : Sabo 0 000grsaltswe siallas - ...`' tai title ' ' ' feadercd, and must' rider thole Ombnallillihlll hi the ayes of the world. Sorely they orsioissposilifilo toy all the loanable lives w !web tell ildlkiiii.erimg this emsecessarirds., lay. ilisiaseddilpdhemeetbelided by cone rim diele Lortidlips to ethers their opium om . this Out by wean 'with his is lie koseultssot ohke be proposed; whisk las in substance, stating, that they depleted the mob of the late wintery Ex. peditiems to Walther 's and Spain ; and stating their oplmiee to be, that they had disgraced the British arise, and were wholly uneerriceable to the friendly Potrero of the Censtineat. The Ameadmemt being read— Lord HAILROWBY could not suppose that his Nebk Feleud (Lord Grenville) could hare mend O 4 Amendment web as that he had jest proposed; it *cot sot only to determine that there should be an inquiry, bet it would Judaea their Lordships New locum tea vote of indiscriminate censure--of absolute ceetlemsaties. Such a mode of proCeed ing wu surely unusual and unprecedented. It was emjust not to allow the proper time for pro. dais' the grounds sad stating the raise's', upon which rested the derision and conduct of his Ms. icily's Governmeat is adopting measures which his Noble Friend has so loudly arraigned and so severely condemned. His Noble Friend laud laid down the lined policy to *filch he says he would himeetfaave adhered, and by which he 'thinks his Majesty's hfinisters ought to base been directed. That polio, admueished the abstaining from Con. -Cliental Expeditions ; rrum making ourselves par. tiniv is a warfare which had long ceased to afford any hops of what was so often emphatically called the deliverance if Europe. Ho had sot the bo omer of being say length of time in his Majesty's Commas since t contrary line of conduct bad been pursued ; but he belleved be might remind his No. his Friend that such had not been ezactly'bis see. timensts on all occasions. He imagined that not eery lately, even in the course of the last remake, hie N.M. Faced had joined in the general entha. simm in (e'ers of the Spanish cau s e, and in the anxiety prompt 1.1 by that enthusiasm to afford it every possible 414 is our power. Gevernmeat did nut stimulate and give•birth to these exertion oe ;he pert of the Spesiarde--but they felt it their duty, and ooseeiesil it to be lbs hstprost of this country, to aid avg . oft Neither had they incited 4111110 Potrattelifto.4 soor lo hostilities with Trims. 411.01.* . ato . appeal to IM sheamba, WW I W ISt 0 the sword—but NY. odholos rir • 043 stip. she had het bah adabillor hopdistilp the British Ofswirositat. Oa the cormary shs was warned by Ana of fe et the albellaito and of the Usability et thi to lend booty effectual supports—she Gould sit literate, heft entered into a mew wel l frees the hope of may , powerful diverse he he ollbeted io her latent by she military impeastions at a British semi. Bet his. Noble Friend would insist that such a ilirem• A sirenesightisseebemninedriu A ber thieve by the force which had been sobortrestly aillested here, had it been brought to operate at • peeper paint. His Noble Friend had alluded to certain it( the points where be conceived our military foresmight have operated advasitageunsly in fewer of Au. stria. lie chiefly, however, adverted to loan*. .points in the Mediterranean, aid more decidedly . etitl to the North id Germany. lie bad also sets. posed that this country might bare brought esti hundred thousand men into the field. Where dwell hundred thousand men were to be foetid, be could' not pretend to say ; but were it possible to pro... cure them, w hat must nut have been theexpence and difficulty of transporting them to the hiedlterra. non or Adriatic ? The thing was Impracticable. Not less impracticable and unpromising would be the plan of sending them to the North of Ger many. It was said they would there find a nu. suerous band of men ready to rise, in vindication of their independence, against the common 'op. pressor of mankind. It was even more than in. minimal by his Noble Friend, that tbu British Government had encouraged thsm to rise, and v rumised them assistance, hut that the pruntise had nut been performed ; that these brave Barrio. tic Well bad beets deserted by us soul allandossed to .LA • Lai4 • l b *, ..tr Me; disiogadisti say, were- wholly sofoaded ; 4 7:31/1 numbers of men in 411Rotest distrkii _fa who were unions to roam drawly* 'ma oppression aud.Syrenny it As Fratisby Iht d had neither arms aer uniforms, nor "bre Armed or nopourige4,ll .. Shis eeentry l o ""' whist *sir opp*sfin. Ewen iratt Wey flN ... 7104 lits! h eviniesent-to send such a Mee, as, 'been mentioued, to their assistance. Is lis.had already observed, where was a force of 1430,000 mew to be foetid ?'and even had they been at the dis posal of Government, how could Government have provided the means of subsisting and paying them in the north of Germany ? This would have been a thing altogether impracticable, and there. fore it was useless to meditate such an enterprise. It surely was uo easy matter to collect inch a form ati that which kid been assembled, with , 1111" the Mein, necessary for its equipment; and so such time was necessary to prepare so large as moment. When it was prepared, intelligence as received of the armistice entered into west. Franco and Aestria ;, yet it was I . , nncerinlo whether that armistice' would tipsf.io a . . deinitiee peace. fee contrary, fko,toffe; eppeared the more probable. Where.. milt It . )ree emPloyek it might therefore. testri. bible . produce a diversion in favour. of Austria, ankinsktia her fieulnese in radian the terms $ an iiiteqealanil igneminissue pestle.. Looking at all thispoints within our . reeds, end• silken oar moans might be effecteefly alerted, there wee none which promised se favossrahle a retell as an attach; mien Flushing aad A.sitwerp ? . ., Tilde*• the enemy' had for years been exPeeding immense labour and money. in erecting a wave) arsenal ant depot, Ind l's !seeping a navy,. by which he would be enabled the most vulnerable points of these 1 , . " ?le boasted of having opened a river • hide I 3 so long been shut, and of . having made 4;00140.4 a natal power, and Ike source of. peeissirelet wealth. It enabled the Ruler of I ime* to cherish the fund hopes of gratifying his hetakosity against this country, and it was well *loin with what indefatigable'xestt. and actrrity he followed every faveerite desire /erased by his issuing* or his ambition. lie. 4rstil!• boasted of , htvieg brought his desigiie and his means at Antwerp to fell maturity and poefeetiou ; and, Indeed, when be M e ted a main objeist "to pin, he leftinething untried. and unexerted to Occomplish k. Was pot this therefore a proper object to en. gegp the attention of a British Geverument,• and , to point out the necessity of frustrating so fermi. 'liable a detail ? Accordingly it was resolved to illatrey the arsenal and navy, aid to deprive our 1 61th:rest enemy of the mightiest emus by which be 'was enabled to annoy us. The design, through 'fariaus unexpected and unascertainable difficulties, has, not been wholly accomplished; but it it !ses fee,,aeComplished as to render abortive his of hostility from that . quarter ; the corn. i demolition of the harbour and arsenal' of wilatii his secured that end. What disastrous .effeetAave arise; from die operations 'emissary 'to its attainment arc indeed to be lamented; but they were not to be apprehended. The design promised to be executed in a short time, amt be. fore the season set in, whose pestilential inteence. was to be guarded against. The Expedition wet ready to sail about the middle of July; but was detained nine or ten days by contrary winds ; other unforeseen auduncontroulable obstectes afterwards occurred to protract the operations till the un healthy period of the year; but all these obstruc tions could not have been foreseen or guarded against. This the information would 'hew which his Majesty had ordered to be laid before their Lordships, and instil that information was in the possession of their Lerdsbips, it would be impos sible fur them to institute o fair inquiry. These, be conceived, would be,of ttsemselvee sufficient to induce the justice L e t f oo lte noose not to admit tie Amendment pros by his Noble Friend. The other point so much hoisted upon and reprobated by his Noble Friend, was the Es. petition to Spain and Poitugal. llere again his Noble Friend's stricture and censure. were al. most in every respect without foundatioo; great end Important objects had been achieved by that Expedition ; it had teemed Portugal , from the French ; it bad wetted this Beitish arms and the eloiMielee of the Usid.h "my wisp glory, and r S , peados it afterwards occupied and main. ' It readered infinite . &melee to the Spanish 1 It covered them'ia.siveral points . ; .it se. at Ai defence of Estrmnaders, and in a grit asessait that efloadaacha. 're this Expedition vas also *wig the delisermsee of Gallicis, ,arid the mod" of the skips at Ferrol. Were not bbleortent objects, and did not the attainateut Meta stied very just et t roands ofe be trietntr to i W ould d eltudost 011114 men Was gross the conduct of his hlaleety:s. ; so riesdpitete an lesteky into themes. red they bad perused, or rather, to proossince Elk ent and cooderanation on them w e ithout bi s any inquiry it all ? fluch,• he thought, be the effect of adopting the Amendment meted by his Noble Friend, and he therefore felt himself called upon to resist it. The Earl of hIOIRA" contended, that it was needless to wait fur any information which Minis. tars would produce. rhey would produce none but mutilated and imperfect documents, and such only as would tend to palliate their own miscon. duct. There were sufficient facts before the coun. try, on the face of which their incapacity and mis. tended was folly apparent, and their condemns. lion was already sealed in the mind of every ob. earwig% seam—His Lordship then adverted to the various points where a British fiA'oe might have been must advantageout.ly, employed in fevssate of the common cause. Ile animadverted on the ins. providence which has iiivulved.thu army in Spain in difficulties and disgrace; anal dwelt with coosi derable asperity on the ignorance and esicapacit). ' so glaringly betrayed lin the expedition against' Antwerp. Thai: were facts which could xis( be disguised, and which furnished sufficient• and bs. disputable proofs of the criminal neglect and on. pastlitsable Spooettee of bliuieters. .. r • t . • A , i . • 7 On, him to be 4 . 14* to justice on all ones.— . In the mob( aceoarti to . jestice and moderbibille td ' lilt; from seceding to the Amendment as It eovretood. The second . . l iparagraph of it was inadmissible at the present meat ; it we* foe inquiry, but he. , did net sec the necessity of coupling it with the Address toile. trown in the manner propesed by the AGICIIII• anent. Igo wished an early day might be fixed foe eel:4 into that inquiry, .and he wished the legality to be fall and ripen/as; but he vat Pot for Pre judging the ceudect-of hii Majesty's Govern-', meat, which weeld be. the cafe it the Amoniment of his Noble 141004 ) wrap adopted without any alteration... Lord 111Virakkirt;spoke at . somi length in Llisdicadoo of: Itik,Measttroa Vl 4 l*•:(449.esur ad pirrsuedissPeCtligthe.two Espial**, , 0 . * Estimation to the Scheldt, and the Allan of earryint it letil etecution, Imbed old paeticolar r ote attention ; and Sietlifier, be believed,. had liken emitted or neglected that could secure its COus. piSte sliced's. When the plan and the menus fur . eg It sheet were duly coeddered, he was con. Ed a .t they would be found to hue been contrived . ' 'provided ,with wisdom and etiolation ; and that no blame was consequently imputable to the fee mers of the Expedition. Equally free fruat blame would those appear to whom the tatioution ef .it had, been epstrusted. If, therefore, sogiber she reamers o( *filo • Expeilitios, nor the officers who `inecitted ft' *ere bleasesble, hew bard would it be witbeet flay lottdry. to Om the sentence Oa both wiled) was priiiitienced.by. - slie Amend:sleet moved by the Nobhs Baroir.:-. , Se was :eissitident 4.heir Lordships in thole justice and ealidotir woold. never element to adept ii. . . • Lord GREY supported the Aniendment In .lk speech of cousiderable lougth, in Which he • frit. lowed and curetted the argemmits urged by Lord Grenville. lie never was more astooiehod Ulan bythe tone assented in the Speech, and the *cre dit it took for the advantages and glory our artny had acquired in Spills. In what ! consisted these adveatagee and' that glory ? the British army hod fought a battle and gained a. victory, *high was much boasted of in ilia ye-Nutty, BO. what wail the ionic ? .1•44,, Itistariosa are,. Mat compelled to setreek allitevni nearly All• 01 1. , by that vegy. .army. misdeOlSoslt. Srtivm the Ort. tish Comameder badillmeeleil . 4 heidag destroy. ell* ludged 41 °kr,. 0 041 01..Preri 4 big-Salehlien, tor bad he out bees stwittoto ef thOmoVis of advance leg further, he weekleave usedAtieto 0111•111 tette. tootle himself in dilloottios freas-..WlNbis he could Inver bees besseapitidedi Timaeoesitybe woven to retreat at the tithe b* striated, just saved titi ,raiy. Ilisd it coat/mud to advantr i not a ma* would have escaped ; add bore ; however reluctant.. lr, he (cared lie must take suite of the blaine from Ministers, aid throw It am the !humidors of she Commaader; Lord Weifteston, he was ready to confess, was a bold and enterprising ollicer.—On this omissive his holders. degenerates into rash. 'CIOSS. 110 advances Lute the heart of the coun. try, without having ascertained his means.of sub *deg his army, his means of transport, or his means of information. Ile fights the bat.. tie of Talavora, which the Speech styles • glorious and decided victory, bats victory attend. fed with such consequences as must deprive it of all merit ; a victory, remarkable only for a (reit. less display of courage and waste of bloud ; a vic. tory, which was ostentatiously extolled in tint country, and for which a Pooral,e had been be. stowed on the General who gaiued it, and to whoin, no doubt, the Thanks of that house would be snored. *lle shoeld,`.however, give this early m.dice, that ho would oppose such a motion whenever it would be made. • The Nubia Earl then insisted on the'advantages that Might have been de. rased to the comino.n cause, by sending the large term which appeared to have been in the power of agnisters to collect, either to the > Adrietie or to the'North of Germany; if to the former r it might assist Austria either on the aide of Italy or , Vi. tuna. It ;night have drawir away a part of Bona parte's army at a most critical moment, and even endangered the safety .of . the whole of his. army.' If employed. on the, Ems and Weser, IC sighs there ids° hare produced the most• beneficial 4- feats. 'lt Would be found to ao.Operatis ,arid( it, an aoilisciplined rabble,' bet a nemeroui bau4 • . ' • •. • veterawe, tattailitriath the bat 'disposition, and fired . with 'the fiercest hatred against rho oppression of the' French. But all these opportunities were neglected, and the sea lect is justified by the must uusatisfacitiry reasons. They could not pay an army in .the North of Ger. malty. The expence of couseying troupe to the Mediterranean, or the Adriatic, would have bane enormous. Yet hare not Ministers incurred coot. mous expellee in sending this eaveted erns . to ' purchase discomfiture end disgrace in Wet.' cheren, and to perish ingloriously in the pestilential swamps of that island : braced defending such unwarrantable measures, they endeavour to censure the conduct of a forsook adniiiiistration, thus resifting to thu pitiful shift of endeavouring to divert the censure of the cove try (rum their oun conduct, and lasing it en that of their epponeuts. But this'surt of diversion will nut avail them. It will not divert from the rage and iudignatlon of the relatives of those brave teen whom (key have so wantonly consigned to a, premature and ingloribus grave. It will not rigs cue them from the contempt and execration of thel country, whaseinterests they have betrayed, wheeel resources they have shamefully squandered, 'hues. cimracter they have wantonly exposed, wheal ke. Your they have indelibly toraisheiti4olol7 OP Amendment could be thought toe setllLthalio' • • • - ^. visit it with ily prevent th e l : , the future. .s 110 Friend h i d th l i istlh it. his most 0 , 4 Cried.. , lOL Soh in repl y He ebbsertud, 11 1 4 4 iprecedeitted in Parleymy condemn ( LIN; moiled a t , the juttol , Gme . gar gut ; by which thi, /fawn slight s •if they alopted it, reduc e l i lac selvea In this situation, that they might first 14eNn Administration, and, upon invese pt i, nt might turn oat that there was nu muse of bl ot ' Ile twit adverted to the operations our ar ,„ yit Portugal and Spain, and insisted that they had hes t most beneficial for the interest of this counts !rued whenever the details carne to be inquired itit": pledged himself to prove that the conduct our General and army had been most Wile ag rbeneficial. lie instanced as a proof, a l it (h ell einem of Estremadura, GaGicio , and Asturia. had been completely cleared of the Fr ache and although. it was true that they had by tur!, prise defeated two Spanish armies, yet th ey 114 nut been able to gather any fruit froui their tic. traria, for they bail not advanced a single step, With respect - to the Expedition to Welcheren, hi s Lordship admitted that the Ministers kne w d l itre Anstriaa artnistiee before it sailed, but h Wee' seedy tai contend that it fiercel t.. h e.est op t , rated as a favourable diversion for Austria, But it was not merely with that view t h at it was undertaken. It had other objects which were wholly British. It was knowii to be a fa, vourite seasure of our enemy to form a nat a l arsenal and duck at the mouth uf the Scheldt, audit had been always admitted by. professional _men, that'. if an inritsion of this co untry were eve to be attempted, it., could never be effect:A but from, the Scheldt. ' It was therefore an object ut importance to defeat the views of our, etteinits, in destroying that port which he had with so "much industry, and . 41t such great expence ' hoes preparing. In, this object we at least had eq. • citted't for, , *pinion of professional men, ',could yeritfirtrilt*li leis time and expellee to form It new harbotse and arsenal than raters the one which we had destroyed at • Flushing— . was this the only object it had effected. It * bad been serviceable to Austria, for it had di. 'veiled a large body of conscripts which were is. tended to hate acted. against her. And this he knew, it was the desire uf Austria that ue should retrain Walcherett until elle- had made . terms uf i ) :74 d et b r d e ; arealp s harts d ti l : l c la t h o seea threats or te r m s f Bonap arte were for the terms which he afterwaris granted ntuit minilt, - ,that some dude rettit'cbtl him to the ncces. city Of . Maxim; from his threatened sev,.rity. His , - f,ordshie odeelered, in his 'epitti9n, it was ecru 'aimed by our holding ‘V4lcher9n, and, in fait, that was the:rempon wry we laildit after the ulte. riofisbjects Of the -Expetliiiori Nee known to be diateeted s ,' and . et the request' cif Austria. His Lordwhipeetielutted by tit ppiali4tibc. 4 6 4 tioi Lord CA.ILTOORD sp?kai iw, , ariak al tae AmesSimont, _s lterirlaich the - Note ditided. • Ter the Amesiemen . Rarest • - - - Si For the Oriflnal Add: st - .• ' Proxies - ' 65' • —,141 Majority is favour of the Address The Uolitie adjourned at half past three this 'peening, • **fit att. commoss. .5 - ...4 "‘' • • JAW. 23. I The , Sre.ttit came to the Heave at Sties , o'clock, and at lialf.paet three the Deputy Usher of the Black Hod summoned the Hootsa..tu the House of Peers to hear the Kinki Speech. Thor StmAKER, on his' return, acquainted the House, that in . persuance to the Act of the 2ttla -of Georgp the Third, he hadisseed Nee Writs fee the following places : • ' Boreaugh of Pembroke, in the room of Jab. Owen, Sup Colony of Sutherland, in the roma et J. Randal . rp. Rass-ohire, la the room of Lieut.-Geo. Themes Frame M' Kends. • - • Shire ettileskimbeneh the fella el the Karol d Titchfkld, AIM Dame of PertheaL Comedy of Rise;, is the. room. of John BalloCk s Rot Tha customary Bills were then reads first tip • pro forma. Writs were issued for. the Wheel* places' s.— • Thrroaghot Buckingham, in the room of the Right Ibla. ees Grenv ill e who has accepted the Chiflern . fluseiresis• Comielford,i i n doe room of Lord Henry Petty, removed to the Upper House as Mantels of loundown. . oumey.of Louth. in Ireland, la the roolusf Me. 1 14 iie-OevwelletreOlr doe room et the It ight Ilse. 'Richard Ryder. Queen's County, in the room of the Right Hoe. William , Wellesley Pole. Newport. in the mom of Lord Palmerston. Romney, .in the room of the Right Roo. the Earl d' Desert. • Cockennoeib. la the room of the Right Hon. Wink's' Vie. coast 'Lowther. Scarborough, he the room of Charles MUM'S settee, liel• in the room of Snowden Ranee, Eaq. lures, he Ireland, I. the ream at Williams Intsgsraid, EI . 14.deriek. la the roes of Colonel Vereker. • • Shire at Edinboreugh, is the ream of Rooked Demise, Be biebsesbury, la the room at Sir George !lawyer, BM"' The Speaker informed the Mestaben that the Coseantens had attended the Home Peers, by de: sire of the Lords Commissioners, where the UM Chancellor had read a Speech to both flosses, and to prevent mistake., •he had procured a copy. • [He then read the Speed, for a copy of which See the House of Lords.) • Lord BERNARD then rose, and apologised to the House for obtruding upon theirateentlee, hoe tog neves , spoken in public before ; but he trilled is the indulgence of the Home, 'blithe made the few observations which be bad t. offer.. (To Noble Lord kite evinced • considerable difkolll in proeteding,_ hut was eibeonragol by cries If loser, hear t foss all gainers if disc llonse.)--- lie spoke, however, in ao low is toss of voice, that it was impossible to collect his senthaests. We es' '*ltood him to express his conviction, that at 'A Would *ninon of his Majesty's abersliV 0 ~, . _ L 10310 Util could mot but ss e knoirteddes to masers such conduct, and 1 limos was much to regret, and perhaps much Isisbustat that Would effectuall rePrioheady 'bath to the ExPediti,ee te. 8 1 1 0 1 4 t uticiliesi 'of, .I k Och abuses fur .0 . -4 , Pecially :in ihat,,,lo,,Alhathetiii• • • Hi A • *locid b i his 1101 4assld ant, blowsier.- brbstidmself to Iblok obj eitt,, sod as Itch i&if the A . * ... posed by his Noble g; • " . , ~. or atsbjectionalids, At *odd Om. r d iltossokPro eitpliiiied.. tao is Nitkont Inquiry. Thato stasniturbf. itti- • rho Earl of LIVERPOOL tition, and muck of despondency its the. 'public Grey and Gfettvflle: I mind, and the adopting such it proceeding Would Amendment *as unprecedet not tank to (moths the use, or to MAW. i a rimthit o ry. It first w o nt t o mato the sue. Oa Was a friend to modern- incasosos, and afterwards rcqt tion, \ aid .ha irisiod his conduct had shown into ibM, It was coinpletel, ~~., - • • Y m-