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had" been most illiberally treated. When gentle men thi ik 6t to get np in that 1-lonse, and in the absence of all information, to charge these hi g h P owers w ith a s pi r it of aggrandisement, he felt him ' ...elf called upon to uy, that, from every thing which 'had come to his knowledge, he saw no foundalon tion et the circa' cumin:l ice' which had occurred in the south of Etorope, the :Heine would .eattily conceive ;the truth of his asaertisto as to the duty which the ithissian tioopo Were required to perform, si)ten he Wed that they were to have avoisted the King of ICrtfitiie in the protection of hia kingdom. The ifuniiniona of that Soverei4n had been left in an ihiecure state as to the furies; which had been re dared considerably, becaoie former circurnetances had made it necessary to disband the greater part of the troop's. In the late critical juncture of his affairs, the King of Sardinia had applied 1 , 1 A °atria fur succours, to which request the E.np-ror replied, that., borever amour he might he to comply as be felt that' there was a common interest its tile question, he was afraid tliat any steps which could be taken by him would bring upon his Government the imputa lion of a desre for aggrandizement. lie therefore earnestly entreated the Kiug of Sardinia to apply to hi. ally the Emperor of Russia, and endeavour to persuade him from giving the counter-order in trn4ed, fur the march of his troop., and to allow a renal' force at I..ast to come down to execute the service which he had fur them. The Emperor of Rosvia complied, though reluctantly, because he dreaded the tmputation of agsraudisement to which ouch a movement was lik.ly to subject him. It was discovered, however, is time, that the force already employed would he sufficient for the purpose of doing that service. and hence the order to stop the march of the Russian corps altogether. Ile dented that there was an improper or partial motive to be discovered in these transactions. He could not see any thing iu the conduct of either of the Emperors 'to induce any man to suppose that the Russian troops were wanted to act in Spain. or to justify any of these charges now made against those Illus trious Potentates—charges which were as ground less as any of those which hell been so abundantly 'and confidently stated on the other side, notwith silo:ding their frequent d•sproval. Ile concluded by moving, That the Order of the Day for the Morse resolving itself into a Committee of Supply be then read. Lord Itltt.Tore remarked. on. the great satisfac tion which the answer•of IltekNohlts Marquis must give to the House and the country. He.eould not /dime the • plain inference of the greed' of •the Noble Margolis, namely, that the House hail MS right to iirqteire into the conduct of foreign Sore. reigns, as to their trensactions with, or treatmeirt of neiglibtinring States. He asserted the right of the Haase to enter upon such inquiries whenever they Saw 'occasion. The Noble Marqu;s had maintained Cot there Was ire disposition to aggrancdeetnent strewn in the transactions alluded to. There were two tents of aggrandizement—that of Stews among one another, and that or States in themselves, ashen the power oT the Same aggrandized itself • et the expense of the tights of the people. He was not sure that the latter was not the spirit hi which the Xing of Sardinia had acted, sod bud +seen alsettecl. The Stuarts, when driven frosts this Country, were condemned, together with the Freud. ; GioVertirnent—not for having hired foreign troops to aid their pretensions, hot fur acquiring money, and recLiviug peusions • from Louis XIV. part of iellich was laid out in levying war on England. lie could not conceive that dues of all less ohjection aide in the King of Sardinia to have calit-I in fo ieign troops to arbitrate between him and his sab jects. His 'Lordship connected these proceedings *ids the 'Wilted promises of free constitutions, which had been made to must of the Sates of Europe during the war. Mr. E.W A nag said, thet the stopping of thernareli of the Russian troops could not be regarded iu any other light by the House, than as an abstain in4 from violence arid crime. God be thanked there was 'ate corner of Eorope still left open, where the conduct of Sovereigns might be scanned With impunity, and denonnced if unjustifieble— or woe would be to the liberties of Europe 1 . —the 'degradation of its 'people would be instant and coistolete. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY again denied that there was any thing in the conduct of Russia :yid Austria to warrant the imputations thrown upon them. He would not be bound for the conduct of 'any roan; but he felt sure that the Emperor of •Ruisia too well understood his own true glory to 'entertain any notions of aggrandizement like those 'which were charged to him. Mr. Disuse repelled the charge of acting tin .juetly and illiberally, made against his Ilotioura- We .Firieirds., Aftet what the House had seen of else event/Icl if the European Powers with respect to tirway. Poland. Seaway. and Genoa ; alter the invasion of Naples and the denunciation of the 7Stiosiish revolutien, it was not very wonderful that 't re'y should suppose Russia intended to counteract the Spanish revolution. If the Noble Marquis was inseusible to the importance of the subject, it was stso reason for preventing those Members of that Hati.e, who did feel it, from lifting up their meta loudly and imperatively against so monstrous as. 'llikeression of the rights of u free people. The li- Veiti ! is of this country, as well is Europe, de pended upon their doing so. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. Vole Ilk , Sirs Alm lett the Chair, r Huns wished to 'ask a question or two re specting the public winkle going on at SherrAess feud the other dock-yards. As'so the work . at sheer. Dees, he understood that there were groat - doubts in the •deportnierits whether it would be politic to go s with the work or not. Ile wished to know whe ther they would have any objection to postpone the vote fair that service twirl the correspondence upon it between the Navy and Oiditince Boards could be obtwued through a motion of. ihde !boar., or until a Committee could have timeleeessinine into the nastier, and ascertain wla thterdrsot it would he •adifnable to go on la Ali the wolit.• /le would other wise submit atmutiott iturnettuttety-to tlt House upon 'the grant proposed fur the &teepees. w 04.. He read bit extract from the thirtl Fitutpciat R9ort, which, • irltelritiiting the erionifys application of 9,0i.8,313k •to public works; recefflasettiled Chit , none of than ithotdd in future be w,tder takpu without s fully dvtat:- ed and perfect estimate of the whole bei oat. He thought the sitorstiota of the ticularly deminded their observance o tiotyln looking over "the estimates I this re2t work at Sheerness had, in th beeaestintated at 824,9921. It lintl dotTered year. In .1818 the amount waisted to complete it was stated at 433,800/. In 1821, therefore, there had been expended more than 1047.0001. upon the works of Sheerness alone. The-new estimates required. exclusively fur the new works, 955,421/., which with theother sums would amount to 2,102,4 i 1 1 fur public works in one dock-yard alone. He thought that they could not justly - vote these sums without farther information. He would propose that a Com mittee should inquire if it would be proper to pro ceed with these works, or stop them. Sir G. ‘VARRENDILR said. that the new works were not the same upon which the slims mentioned •by the Hon. Member had been expended. 'there had, at one time, been a doubt with Government as to the propriety of 'keeping a dock-yurd at Sheer ness ; that doubt had been resolved. The works in question had been undertaken, and were an near completion, that they would take about 30,000/. less than the proposed rattan ate, which sum would be . applied to the repair of she old works. The opinions of the best engineers were agreed, that the works would be efficiemt fur their purpose, and they were slowest awe of being completed at the close of the present sear. Mr. E. WARRE expressed his surpr'se at the pro posed grant, seeing that there WWI stated is the estimAtes fur 1820, an item el 171,1631. for the completion of these works, which now required more than 900,000/. for their completion. Sir It. MARTIN said a few words. Mr. !hue then moved— .. Thai the snm of 1.147,8001. has bees voted fat the ka preivemenis in the dock yields at Sheerness, is last am years, from 1811 to 1820, both tatlissive: That the sumust of the estimates for complrt.lig these work* was 884,9921. in /814; was 433,8001, is 1818 t and althemgh the Isree sans of 1,147,000/. lass ben er,winied, a farther snm of 05,4211. is slated as necessary to etwrillete the imprormetruto in that yard. and which will mike the total charge fur use dock yard 2,108,4211. "That, therefore, seder tomb varying and aneertaiin Esti mates, it is expedient that a Committee of ibis House shoats be appointed to impair, taw the Port Espenditere sad future Estimates of all Works is Doen.yards" Ile would state his reasons for doing this. In 1830, exclusive of the item mentioned by his 800. Friend, there were 200,0001. voted for the repair and completion of other works of the same kind.— They were accused of attempting trifling titans, while they left the larger sums untouched. He owned that it had been the case with the Kremer part of the army estiniatts ; but here wawa ease of much greater, import mate.- These were, be.ttles this work at Sheerness, 1,600 ; 074/. minted fur other ' , w k.., the estimates for the coinpletion of which in some pliers (Plymouth, King-ion, Canada, and Trincothalee) were at prevent uncertain. Nei, After the notoriety of the feet that the walks at Chatham and Dover had consumed so touch more money than was ever reckoned, and the recoils turiadatioos made by the Finance ComMittee there upon, was there stay man so dead to the necessity of economy as to nsaintrio that they gould with propriety vute these stew estimates, which, taken with the sums laid out in the some way since 1810, amounted to 5,447.000/. Without more information ismt certainty as to the orcessity bur the money ? Ile did not require toe works to be *tipped, be only wished a Committee to be assured whether or not the works ought tin go on. Ile concluded by mosin r ,ce as before stated. Sir GeottGe CO KBURN explained the nature sal the works, the state of their advancement, their usefulness, and the impossibility of putting an its. mediate stop to them ent:l the wall which was to keep ont the sea could be completed, after which the work might be stopped immediately. Sir J, YORKE expatiated ou the superiority of Sheerness harbour, which, wish a large expanse of watere, retained 52 feet in depth at low Water, and eould rontaiit upwards of 100 linesof-battle ships. tie explained the necessity there was for keeping a large naval estab!islintent at Sheerness to command the Northern Seas. from which there had been the mast Immediate clanger of attack • anal dread of in vasion while Brimstone's fleet were at Antwerp. Sir I. COFFIN recommended les Hon. Friend, the Wernher fur Aberdeen, to give lawselt ocular slennistr.ition of the extent and importmee of the Sheerness works. Mr. 11. G. I:SPINETT said that the intention of Lis Hoii. Friend kid been mistaken. Ile did nut wish the works to Le stopped. But as the Iluuse, snider the ablest counsel, had been .o frequently deceived as to the awfulness of public works to which great stints df Money had hien applied, he only wished them to Satisfy themselves of the ne cessity fur laying out No large au additional sum at • time wit. ti the diets-cobra of tl.e country r.- quirci the etricte-t 'Youths/. Sir G. etoccaosit sesiti tti.t die works could not stop without a total Lee of 01l the expeosts which had been Isid out upon them. Sir GEORGE WARIENDZIL 'itemised details of the items. and,the reasons far 'revering them, to tne Committee. The plan had loins alletrd final time to time, as he had informed the Haute ye pu.st occa sions. At first it was only designed that these works should extend to the ducking and preserva tion of frigates; since which it had been found ad visable to ruultp them it lor this reception of shape of the l u re. Sir W. olt CRESPIONY soid a few word 9. Mr. thug replud. Nr thsl •uot widi even to delay the works. Let there take. 50,000/. to go on with them. for three *telt., while the Committee inquired iiito the wihjeet. After a few .rnore words from Mr. E. %SARRE and Sir B. MAnvim. the House divided— For Mr. 27 *gaunt a ' •••••• • , bit blajavity bs On Oat return to the gallery the liou-e was in a Committer rif Supply. Sic (hORGE ‘V I ARRIINDER niVrcl,, that 50.9671. I fa. 6.1. ItesrairfW to his M.iiesiy fur salari e s of ofneera o 1 the Vssittallin g Yards. Mr. BERN AI. WWI Ihrir aus an expense to vrlticfs the cauiffri wust.put that dui riot tzar:lly appear uu these tirtillfateot eid ree ? which he cntil3l nut are the tisfottl• etqlgoiSe be alluded to was for the (Wes, • *hop winds moored tiff Chathsun • ii • tril a w.th Wain, Pulsar , uyti_ Mr. BERNAL, said if the Russian ships could be victualled without the expense, in 1816, be could not see the necessity of it at present. Sir GEO. COCKBURN stated that every ship in commission had a Purser, who took charge of the provisions and accounted to the Victualling-office, but the ships in ordinary had but one Purser to them all, and he was stationed on board the Ceres. Sir I. Corpus said, if ■ boat was to go down with provisions from Chatham to Sheerness, it would often happen that neither boat nor provisions would return. Sir J. S. Youtica wished to know the reason for an increase from last year, in the charge for Dept ford 'Victualling -yard. Sir G. CLERK said, the increase had been in re pairs of the roofs of the storm Sir G. COCKBURN and Sir J. S. Yostla ex planted. Mr. lIUMR asked if there was any intention of making any rerinctions in the Depford Victurlliog hard ? He took occasiort also to oberve on the igher salaries enjoyed by the clerks in the dock yards, as compared with the victualling-yards, fur which lw could see no gond reason. Sir G. Cocasurta said, every *eduction would take place that was practicable, but there were but little hope of reducing any of the clerks at Dept turd, but expected that in the other yards; reduc tion wuuld take place. Mr. WASIK eked whether the yard at Dover was intended to be kept on for the revenue vessels? Sir GEO. COCKBURN said there were buildings there, a brewery, and a large ►to( k of corky, end as the toaster brewer from iris length of servire must, if ►uperannuated, restre on his full salary, it was thought ■s well in point of economy, to have the benclit of his services. After a few words from Mr. Hums the resolution was %reed to. 70,962/. 4... GI. was awe voted for the Medicitl &labiletonna. after u few observations from Mr. Ilusts and Sir Gv.ortmi COCKBURN. Sir Gronue CLRa Riovetphal 6.3261. 18.. Gil. be granted fur the Royal Sind College and School of Alcloiecture. Sir J. YORKE observed on the probability of the abilities which were fostered by this istablislisneut being 'turned against ii. by the students ruln3itied at tins school entering iatolOreign rervicv, and wish ed to knew if there was any inteution of reducing the number of students. Sir 1. COTIFIN said, no foreign Power, either European or A:twit:am would accept of ship builders from England, at,they had better ship. builders of their own, as every ship which had been taken would prove. Sir Geo. COCRISURN gild, there was no inten tion of :educing the number of students. The Resolution was them agreed to. it was then moved, that .149,795/. be granted for wages of 'nen and ship•keepers in ordinary. Mr. HURL wished to ask as to the expense of the yachts; lie understood it had been very con siderable of Lite. lie knew that vessels far the use of his Majesty lomat of necessity incur sonic elan: expense, but still there wan a limit. 'Fite eopeeise fur Surgeons alone cost 1,3001. o year ; whether the other Officers were also continued Coll pay he could pot tell. Certainly a great saving might be effected. Sir G. COCIIIIJRN s'aid that wires the Sovereign of these Islands we n t afloat, it well proper that Ire should go with the state fitting hi. high dignity, and lie was sure the (louse would out begrudge so necessary en expenditure. The Surgeons received . the apponnineirt as a reward, being old Surgeons, and the difference between the holf pay am: the full pay being very trifling. Mr..ffulte said what he desired to knew was, whether all the Officers of the yachts were on fall pay as well as the Surgeons? Sir Ceo. COCKBURN saidthe e and Surgeons were ou full pay. Sir J. S. YORKE wished to be informed of the cos cosion of the increase on this brad of charge. Were there more ships iii ordinary now than last year ? Sir Ilesist MARTIN said the iircreose wax Dccc sinned by au ailluaan•e of two shillings a day to the Warrant Officer. for lodging and provisions, the saving would appear in the victualling. The Resolution WWI then agreed to. t 13,1401. 3s. Id. was granted fur victualling the Or nary. After a few observations from Sir J. YORKE end Sir U. MARTIN, 79,0004 was granted for Harbour Ititioring and Rigging. On its being diuved7flett 310,000/. be grouted fur the repair of Ships its Ordinary— Sir 3. YORKE rose to express his surprise at the sum being of the same magnitude as last year. Sir 1. Conlin observed on the had quality of some of the bliips a Inch had been built in the mere bouts' yards during the war, anti the necessity there 444 for kitting the chips i.n au efficient state. Sir Jos. Vottos denied the aseertioes which his Hon. and Gallaut Friend had matte, that no fo teign Power would accept of shipwrights from England. His lion. Friend could slot have looked at the estimate, or he would have forborne the re marks which he lied made. - 53!: 11. MsoTtn said this charge was to keep up ilk repairs of the whole of the miry, including the animal prinmee of the slaps. Sari. Yo#txtt said he did not Pee what was the use cf giittig rewards to ingenious men for nii provements, if there was to be no saving of expense.. Sir I. COFFIN said, that although his Hun. Fr.tail had detuvd his assertion, )et he himself, when his relative was ut the head of the Admiralty, had preferred a Danish ship takers at Copeultagen to tlw whole of the Ltritisli navy. Sir Jos. Yuan s said hirliou. and Gallant Fiiend was mistaken, lie had no ship whilst his (Sir J. Yorke's) brother was at . the Admiralty, it was to Lord Mulgravir's kindness thin he owed the ship lie alluded to, but he hid not picked her. Alter a few words from Mr. HrSIE and Mr. Itosan, the Resolution was .greed to, '00,400i. was then moved for half-pay of officers. Mr. BENNRTT stated the "case of the wives of officers in the service, oho were in- ' sane, and who were iii the Naval Lunatic Asylum at Nestor. These two ladies, after receiving the half-pay of the two unfortunate officers for eight or nine years, under a power of attorney, wanted by the unfortunwe suff,•rers before their insanity, and the Admiralty in 1819, without any previous no tice, bad stopped one half the half-pay, oral placed the two families of these individuals in a state of absolute penury. Sir G. Cocsauam said, the general principle on which the Adminilty were governed in unfortunate cases like those alluded to by the Hon. Gentle man was this—where the family of the sufferers took care of them, the whole of the half-pay wits paid ; hut where the Government afforded an asylum, ooe half of the half-pay was retained. Sir J. NEWPORT howl! that something would be done fur the too individuals who bud suffered under the operation of the general piiuciple laid down by the Board of Admiralty. Mr. BUXTON said, that he knew one of these persons was, by the sudden deprivation of the 'say, reduced to the greate,t distress. Mr. CROMER raid, the Boatil of Admiralty were not aware that the two insane officers had, before their insanity. given a power two persona to re ceive their half-pay. Notwithstanding it was the opinion of lawyers, that if an insole alicer %ere to recover his senses, be could maintain an action fur the whole of his half-pay during his Warn ; yet the Board in a case of such calaini y rid as il legal charity, in giving half the half-pay to relatives of insane officers. Mr. Beilivcre said, the question was, whether officers who lost their reason in the service of their country should he put on the same footing as those who had lost their limbs? If the lIURI4C/ were ever so great it migibt to be dose ; yet here there were only two officers in that rizustiuti, at.d the expense would only he 1161. After some further diskussion, in which Mr. Croker, Lord Milton. Mr. itaston, Sir J. Yoskc. Mr. Hume, and Sir G. Warretider participated, time converrat ion dropped. Mr. Hume made some observation on the in. crease tb the already lung hat of Lieutenants on half-pitY. Sir U. COCRBIIIRN said, only twelve passed m id. shipmen had heel promoted on the occasion of his Majesty'. secession. Mr. Hume said, that a number Itud•been pro moted since then. Sir G.tocitatiatt said, that it smiallowd to Admirals also hod been three yraresiis s Amigos station, to name .an officer for prom/ism. Mr. CROKER said, that not a sin gie viirsviretson had been brought into the Royal Marines since the peace. Every vacancy bad been filled up from the halt:pay list, but that reserve must begin to give way. The senior Lieutenant was of 18 years stand ing, and in future it would be necribiry that one in tb►er vaeaucies ►hould be filled up by a young man. Colonel DAMES "Sid, his proposition for filling orb hell of the commissions of the army front the half-pay, wet received the uthe► night with the greatest contempt ; yet be could not see why the same sort of regulation should not he adopted by the Secretary at War as had been etu►ounced to be the inteninni of the Admiralty to put in force. Mr. Caosza explained. Mr. HUME *Sid, the promotions in the army, with a view to ecouonoy, ought to be filled tin by his Majesty's Minitel, marl not by tl►e Com inander-in-Cliief. After a few words from Mr. Foopes and Sir GZORGE COCIITURN, the Resolution was agreed to. The rum of 142,001. 13s. 3d. was thew voted for Siiperannuations, Pensions, and Allowances; and 1,5001. for bounty to Chaplains. On the motion for 7,000!. for the Widows and Orphans on the Compassionate List— Mr. HARBORD wished to knew by what rote and in what manner the pensions oo this list were granted. He applied for this information, bemuse he had heard of a case of • widow of u Marine Off►cer, who, for some reason which we could not collect, tau appl►cation fur some part►cular fund to which h er children were entitled, having been refused, had been threatened with having tit to struck •ff the fund. Mr. CROILER said he felt 10 a lo•a for an answer, from lint ezacily understanding the statement of the Hop. Member. Hr understood the complaint of the widow to be, that her children were not on the bat to which they were collided, and afterwards that they were threatened to be struck off the list ; now this moo at least an appal l/I t ineowaitency which he did not know how to reconcile. The Compassionate List was not a matter of right. The pensions on it were not paid out of stoppages from officers' pay, but out of a provision voted by Parliament, as now proposed. The sum granted by Parlia ment was apportioned by the Foal. Lord of the Admiralty, according to his discretion, on a com parison of the claims of the applicants as set forth in their statements, and borne out by IlatibrillelOtri proof on iuquiry ; and lie was happy to have it in his power to bear his humble testimony to the at triitiou of the Noble Lord to this subject, and to the impartiality with which he made the selection. Sir J. Youis and Sir G. WARRENDEIt, each said a few words which we could mot collect. Mr. FlAisonu said, the statement of the widow might have alluded in one case to the Widows' Fund, and in the other to the Compassionate List. He wished to know whether the widow of a Marine Officer was not entitled to have her children ad mitted into the school at Greenwich Hospital. Mr. CROKEa said that the children were eligi ble for admission to the school at Greenwich, but that it was not a matter of right. 11 it were a right, of course the number would be unli mited ; but the number was only •500, they trete therefore necessarily selected, osid‘it would often naturally occur that the pumas who were disap pointed r would - complain of hardship. The pen sions from the Widesse Fund were minter of right, and therefoie that Fund coald, taut he the ground of complaint in the case alluded to; the Ceara.- mistime List was apportioned bviselection, and it was not unlikely that a disappointed claimant, who was perhaps not collect ly itiluitned of its nature, should complain. Sir F. OMMAIIXEY said a ire weeds on the table administr•ttion of the pensions, and the mo• tion was then agreed In. On the motion for 32,000/. to make poll the de ficiency of the fund for the Pei's; of Widows of Commi,sion and Warrant Officers— Mr. HUME naked for some explanation as to the estahlittuttent of it secretary to this - fluid, sod ow u.sistanr, with salaries smoutripg to 300/. e year, w birth did hot formerly exist. Mr. Curium' 'viol there tilts tilts imly salaries which had not been increased since 1733. They were formerly paid out if the proceeds of the pale of old stores, but he thought it would he more e • nn= !lenient that they should be regularly provided rite by a vote of the House, and inserted them in the E•tiniares in 1817, since which time they hid hew regularly so provided for. Mr. flusic said, his reason for asking tht qurs' lion wa s, that he had i.ot found ant• mention I,V their intentions pres:ous to Is i 7. lie agrac t i . 1 44 the Hon. Gentleman, that It was better that merit person so employed should be pruvitled fur by a v ote of the House ; and he would take it for gran!s• .41 that those persotis did their (Inv, and that tiv! trolley was well earned. There were, however, of:- ficers of whie:i herti•ertsined a vt ry diif-te.n opi.tiori, sod when these E•timetes were repined to the House, lie should move, that the subject of the Paymaster of IVolo4p. retisioce., and the Pet= master of Marines, should again be takeii Into con. sideration, and lie hoped the Hum. Gentleman would produce • copy of the letter of Mr. Ruse, when 'rreasurer of the Navy, recommending that those offices should be t►ausferred to the Navy Ou.ice. Mr. CMOILER assured the Committee that the errangrinetst alluded to, so fir fruit► a saving, would' unavoidably he atteitiltd with an additional rx , pease to the country, es he should he prepared tor spew, lie trusted, to the satisfaction of the I ifou. Menrber, whrnever the •ohj.ct was brought undtr the corwirlerar ion of the !louse. The Resolution wag then %feed to. The soon of 103,97V.1. 16s. 6J. for superantinit.- lion and allowances, iii lieu of half- l iay, to certain tiaval ufneers, formerly employed In the naval de- , partntent, was thrn moved. Mr. Hots arid, in the Report of the Com mittee of tockuiry, it was *toed that several names occurred more than over, iu different lists, whereby they received larger incomes than any allowance which would be given to nit individual coo l ing tinder any one description only. Re then cited an instance of a person.svlto, beAdes being, as we understotisk en the tone brands of the naval expediyie,.was alsOincluded in the mdsience. estatalt•hmeut, Mad held the sotuation at Receiver- , General of the diseased tarn*, receiving iu the *hole salaries to the amount of 2,9061. a year, This was a system which had betu secoaimentlect fur revision, add he wished to ktioe how hr that recommendation had been momplird with? Alter a few words from Sir GEORGE WAR.. RENDER and Mr. R. WARD, the ItiOltalou was withdrawn for the-present. Sir G. W•aassinea then moved a Itesolatio.s for granting 1,519,000/. to the buildiag, srhuild nig, sod repairs' of ships of war, and the comple tion of works in the dock-yards. The Honourable Baronet was proceeding to point the attention of the Committee to the natureof some of those works, when Sir Jos Erg Yoang rose to 'peak to order. The estimates might to be discussed point by point, snit he did nut uiederstand how the works iu the yards, which were composed of gianite and mortar, came to be mixed up with the wooden wuiks of ship building. Sir 6. WA RRENDER 'stressed his surprise Its hear inch etiobservati iiii horn his Gallant Friend, alter having sit six years at the Board of Admi ralty with him, during the is hole of which time these Boards were c iiiii idrred together. Ile under stood that there was no objection to the eatinxate for the building end primers of ships.—(Hear, hear, from Mr. Marne.)—As it appeared that ►ome üb jemion was entertaiiied which he had not anticipa ted, he would put them separately, and more at present e grant of 1,094,5801. for she building, and repairs of ships. Sir J. YORNI rxprrs•ed his torprile diet this estiniute had not been diminished in a proportion corresponding with the dinithution in the sages paid for labour, which lied been reduced nearly one fifth. Sir T. D. MARTIN said, the supplies of timber bad been contracted for up to the next jear, and it was therefore itoptissible to reduce the expense et that article iisitd that contract had been linirlitd. Mr. Hume said, that since the lot of January, 1815, including the present estimate, 17,702,0001. had been voted by the House under this head; a sum capable of creating u navy fur any elate iu the sand. 110 179 i we had 04,4 302 ruled chips, hoax let to G(tk sates, and 111 stoops and smaller vessels, ot present we had 538 rated ships, and 103 sloops; alsitiet at the further period we hal only 10 rater! ships !Wilding, while now we had 30. men had more Mau we elioulol be a ble to if we went to war to-morrow. If one third of Ott gmilleY were kid Out mores al, our startliad. would have been completely eritiatued ; end , if s wag a it were laid' oat isi @toter, ha was at a lesa hi.etieceiseier what so liege a itua could be* bare expended. Tla.- whole of Ibe shipping of war of all she fisiropeeo. Slates and Magritte united, did riot asceett -20 ships ; we were therefure afore dun) whgaiirLit;t•i supplied &dimly. He alion Id, therefore, mos. , o-a owiendment, the sum of 794,5301., bird a lion of 350,000/. Sir I. COFFIN said, during the last war we had to tight with all Europe, and America into tha burgeon. Sir GEORGE COCKBURN said, if all our ships were in good tooditiou we should out *eat more built at present ; but we were now builol lug to replace thaw which were defective. The system nuw pur►ued iu huildiuiz, with seasoned timber, and leisurely, so as to afford time for the stork to g e t seasouetl, would reader the ships much more lasting. In proof of this he would insuttoss the ease of the Royal W4lliaas. well known to all persous acquaiuted with the navy as sit exceedingly old ship; mud upon inquiry iuto the cause of her isstiug so long, no peculiar advantage was disco vered to Laud belonged to her but that she bad been 38 years ill ordinary before she was used. Sir .1. Yottlig said the ingenious observations of his gallant Frieud bad failed to convince him that de - believed a complement of 40 men; title was em- ir- ',toyed as a victualler, bet 'be believed annecessa- la- rily. When'the Resits* fleet was in the Medway, tat in the year 1816, they victnalled by their own IC boats, an arrangement by *lnch • great expense !.ry was saved. -- - - -..• a. .0' =WWI, WO MIN. {WM ,L/111,1G• ^ IN. 16.1.1. Vary. %ea provisions fur the s hip s in ordinary, and was • measure of economy NM Which a considerable