The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-06-20 00:00:00

\ • - of St. Nlery's, Dublin, praying a repeal of certain Aa• awed Taxes.—Ordered to be printed. PUNISHMENT OF HARD LABOUR. Mr. COURTENAY rose, in pursuance to the notice be bad given, to move for leave to bring in a Dill to ex tend the indiction of hard labour upon offences which 'Were sot now visited.. by that. punishment. ,As tnany lion. Members had spoken to him upon the subject, who entertained a favourable view of the Biil,he hoped there would be no objection to his motion. lie would briefly state the object of the Bill, which was to annex the punishment of hard labour to persons imprisoned for certain felonies and misdemeanors. Mr. M. A. TAYLOR wished to know, whether it was the intention of the lion. Member to leave this new power at the discretion of the Judges? Mr. COURTENAY replied, that the punishment would be applied to speciAed cases. . . _ Leave wii then giien to hying is the Bill. 11r. S. RICE pr•sented a Petition from the Tanners of Jttogheda, praying a Repeal of the Excise Unties on Leather.—dlyde►ed to be printed. lie. LUSHINOTON moved, that a new writ be issued int a Member to serve to Parlianseat for the Horough of Earl of Yarmouth, now cm leur d by 'Aint. a 'y it, • over. its tiara, he thought persons might not to be "t-, /reed to. with es-parse mama", for the porpoise Ireeering malicious charges azimut the Judgeenr Coma, without giving them the means of repelliqg diem As this was his view of the cue, be should move tie rejection ofibe Petition. Dr. LUSHINGTON expressed hie onienisbetent at the MUM adopted . by his Hoe. and Illemwed Friend s ie charging the 4000 individuals who dried thoretiden, With malicious natives. They woo Wild open to re -1 ject the Petition, and to disbelieve lib staessents open' the ipso dirk of his Hon. and Leassedielesd. He con tended that the subject was one whithelhimaded atten tion, sod he could Dot help feeli•g muse indignation at this attempt Marlette the right of Petition.. • Sir. H. SUMNER briefly supported the atiOnsdelent Mr. H. 0 BRiNNET mettaded, that imessil.4 jetting the Petition. the house were bound tomtit IMMO an investigation of the coeiplaint. He thought theme was no esonidedom to be placed ie 'the Court of Kleg's Bench es to thetregeolation of offices, for that house- me the only pewee misich cosld keep the Courts of Law is , . Artier. The Ism of all the Cossets eight to be reduced. He supported thesPeddea., , The KITOIINHY-ORNERAL• said that the Aet of Parliament similes the mould of foss to be received by the educes of the Omni; and badillatexaction. it points oat a remedy; and that being Iheilmehthe petition ought sotto be received. HUMS expand idetseleuiehesset that the's*. plication etf fear thaassed «.114 4 t 2 virtual denial of Miss, amid harlot/to apes sack trivial groonieri' Me. WYNN seldeelt Milsismed in • the opposition of his Hon. and lassaet retold to this petition. He knew isothing, and eared' , as to whether the COO: ?Mint was well or I ; hut m long as he knew, •there were tribonallempshated by Act of Parliament, for the hearing of •thiseireinplalnts, be would oppose their holing brought fos&tre that Hoene. Smelt conduct would be tensing justice out of its mune, and giving realer facility for the fibrillae of privet. character *ad were they *me • 've way to sorb a. pieredest, ie mend of sitting till. they would sit till Christmas. ' Mr. HOBHOU 'ad often witnessed the rejection of petitions, by that House, against his private judg ment ; but he must say that on the present occasion he thought the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite was 'Ferrying the joke too far. It was clear the Petitioners thought they had a case of such atme as called for a chaste of the law; and how was that fo be done if they were to be sent back to those sourceseof redress of which complained, or if the House refused to entertain their statement of that abuse? l'olonel WOOD objected to the Petition on the ground that the charges against Mr. Heath, of whom he knew nothing, would be put upon record, whilst, Irons the lateness of the Cession, this individual would be in capacitated from making any reply to them. lie could not help expressing some surprise that the petition, coming, as was said, from so large a body of the free holders of Middlesex, was not intrusted to one of the County Members. Mr. WHITBREAD was understood to say from moiler the gallery, that be would willingly have presented this petition, and that it should have his warmest support. Mr. Id. A. TAYLOR confessed he did not like the conduct of Hon. Members who got up in that House to Resist in stifling inquiry into abuses In Courts of Law. He thought the House could not, with safety to their own characters, reject this Petition. As for that House taking care of the characters of the Judges, he should FRY let them take care of themselves. Mr. W. SMITH thought the Petition ought not to be rejected. Mr. CURWEN said that, entertaining, as be did, the highest respect forelr.Heath,beshould vote for the recep tion of the Petition, in order to give that individual an opportunity of vindicating hinnelf.—(Hear.)—Without giving an opinion one way or the other, he said he was aotherised by Mr. Heath to state that he wished to he allowed an opportunity of explaining fully his conduct. .Coder such circumstances, he (Mr. Cerwen) would re commend to the Learned tlentletnan opposite to with draw his objections to the the petition. Mr. COURTENAY said, that if the lion. Member who presented the Petition would give an assurance t-hat he would take some steps, to procure an investiga tion into the allegations of the Petition, he would give no his opposition to its being received. But without that, lie could not consent to allow the Petition to lie on the table. Mr. LENNARD could not, at this late period of the Session. give any pledge of the nat-ire required of him. Alt. CitEEVEY said lie thought the President of the Board of Controul, and the lion. Counnissio: - ..: behind him, seemed determined to establish the character of that House for insanity.—(A langh )—fle wanted to send those Petitions to the Court of King's Bench,; the certain consequence of which wocld be, that the Chief Justice of that Court would send them back to Parlia 111rIt. lilr. WYNN explained, that his objection was not to the prayer, but to the allegation? of the Petition ; and from time immemorial it hail been the practice lo reject Petitions on the ground of objectionable allegations. Mr. ROBINSON hoped, that after what bad fallen from the Hon. ;Member for Cumberland (Mr. Comet') his Hon. Friend (Mr. Courtensy) would feel that his objections to the Petition bring received was removed. lie begged, however, to state, that he did not, by ad mitting the Petition on the understanding that it was intended to promote inquiry upon it, pledge himself to support such inquiry. t • • 1 I , t 1 . '... t r )i f I . . t ' 'ii . ) i. ' e . s 41 ' 1 # i , - • 1i 1 ' 4 , 1 1 t .. 1 . . ' i: 1 I i , :9 \ 1 1 1 , i • ° I , . * 1 iis f t ? I 4 : 1 I I . I . 1 • I t ; e I ; I ' ; i i - I . • 1 0 - , . . ‘,.., I ) ^ I 4 eanuelford. in the room of the Earl of Yarmouth, now Marquess of Hertford.—Ordered. COUNTY cepa?. lir. LENIiAED 4t 'atition from certain Tradesdlp• , Middlesex, corn- plainittigiaf in . be mal-practices in the Comity Colin. : 41 '.• — Mr..COUILTE; ... - . that this Petition 414 sot proceed from , le body of the res- pectable HousehoW The Hon. Mem- " her deprecated tie, a/ been adopted by Mia.Petldmseve before taboo of the Petition. lippetittat. if -was gressil of complaint. a is to the Chief 'lassies would remedy it. VC X which established the Geed provided a check . te/ Mr: COURTENAY conientid wits ra his op position : bnt be pot it to the caotkor of the Hotline able Gentleman opposite (Mr. Leonard) to endeavour to prove his sharge. The Petition was then brought up, and ordered to Ile on the table. . MUMS TAX.--IRILAND. Sir JOHN NEWPORT presented a Petition from the Tanners of Waterford against the Lather Tax, and also against the m o de of mewing it. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, be had always thought the mode of assessing the duty on Leather in Ireland, injudicious. and lie was only waiting for the Report of the Commissioners of Inquiry to is troduce some measure to alter it. Mr. C. 11. HUTCHINSON said any alteration would he acceptable to the persons interested in this trade in Ireland. After a few words from Mr. V. FITZGERALD, the Pe tition was read and ordered to be printed. A Message from the Lord Raced their Lordships &seem to the Goods Importation Repeal Bill, and certain Private Bills. LICINI:NO RUTIN. Mr. JAM ESpreeented a petition from William Prid all, a publican in the pirish of Triptott.Hnitotear Ilebester, in Somertsetshire, complaining that his license bad, through the interference of two Magistrates, named Woodford and Priest, been refined bins, although he bed held it for sixteen years previoUsly. instate& that Um character of his house bad never been impeached, and he could not otherwise account for this oppressive surmise of Magisterial interference, than that be bail coasts. nanced the rejoicings upon the ocquittal of the Queen. Petitionerlarther stated, that he had a family of sine children, whom he was ne longer able to support, and he therefore prayed the House to interfere. The Hon. Member, after samg that he concurred with the poti !loser, in feeling that some change in the mode of grant iseg Reggaes was called for, added, that timbals., seed not be surprised at the conduct of the Maglsteseseorben they were Informed, that these gentlingtl wore two of the notorious visitors of I 'clamor ,•-•• Mr. Secretary PEEL was not disposed to sargest the rejection of any petitioa open say ; but he could not listen silently to charges made against Ma gistrates who exercised heavy public duties gratoit onsly.—(Hear.)—The Magistrates, is question, were both, men of the greatest respectability. and 'Owe of them be himself bad a personal kaowledge. He biped, as the House had listened to the charges made against thee, Gentlemen, that they would do them the justice also to listen to their defence. The Right Hon. Gent. then referred to a statement made by Mr. Woodford, with a view of 'hewing that the refusal of the petition er" license was warranted by the disorderly conduct which was panned In his house. It was stated, that repeated complaints were made by the parish officers, of the pablic•houie in question. The Magi Orates, !metre, did not act upon these complaints, and the petitioner was suffered to continue his licensenatil the general Ilrensing-day. The imputation cast upon the motives of Mr. Woodford was particularly unjust. for that Geotp bid openly declared his disapprobation of the m ain which the proceedings against the Queen were conducted. With regard to the other Gentleman, it *as not true that be entertained any hostile feelings towards the petitioner; for, upon one occasion, he had lest him his attorney, when some proceedings were instituted against WWII, at itches. ter. Under these circumstances, be thought it unfair that the petitioner should prefer charges, which were unfounded; and he was also bound to sairkitikat It was uncandid for the Hon. Member to endiewour to raise an unjust prejudice &Oast theoelhatlitien, by stating that they wet* of the - 4 * aseselotta. whitely" of iichester Gael. Mr. DICKINSON defended the conduct of the Ma gistrates. and stated that the reia.' v}i of the petitioners' license was not the act of one or two Magistrates, but of all the Magistrates of the district, for it took place upon I tbe general licensing-day. Mr. BENNET said, be wished publicans were more often punished by a summary proceeding, rather than de price them of their licences, which extended the pu nishment to their families. Mr. JAMES said, that what he had stated was upon the authority of the petition. He did not know whether the facts alleged were true or not; but the petitioner declared himself willing to substantiate every charge he had made upon oath. As to what was said of the disor derly character of the house, the petitioner admitted that a riot took place once a year in his house, but it was only when the clergyman and parish bold the vestry there.— (Laughter.) Mr. PEEL explained. He never meant to say that the Hon. Member had alleged facts in which he was not borne out. What lie (Mr. Peel) complained of was his having alluded to the Magistrates being vissiters of 11- cheater Gaol, with a view-of creating an undue prejudice against them. The petition was then ordered to lie on the table. MITI WRIT. Upon the motion of the Marquis of TITCHFIRLD, a new writ was ordered for King's Lynn, in the room of Lord Walpole, become Earl of Orford. HAWKERS AND PEDLARS. The Marquess of TITCHFIELU presented a petition from the resident Tradesmen of Worksop, complaining of the increase of hawkers and pedlars, and praying the imposition of new duties upon their licenses. Mr. HUME would not oppose the petition, but he pro tested against the principal of interference with the free dom of trade. If the petitioners considered the trade of a hawker better than their own, tiler should have re course'to it. He was an enemy to restrictions of any sort. He hoped the house would not accede to the prayer of the petition. Laid upon table. Mr. Secretary PEEL gave notice, that on the sth of July lie would bring in a Bill to continue the regulations for the police of the metropolis. ALIEN ACT. The Committee upon the Alien. Act was, upon the mo tion of %lr. NEL, postponed to the 28th of June. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. Mr. ROSE presented a petition from the parish of Butford, in Suffolk, praying for Parliamentary Reform, and complaining of Agricultural Distress. Mr. COKE, supported the Petition, anti observed, that the greatest difficulties had been thrown in the way of the meeting from which this petition emanated, by some of the neighbouring Magistrates. fie also observed, that the putting the petition into other hands than those of the Count• Members was a proof that one at least of those Don. Members had lost the confidence of the pe- titioners. hlr. s tiOoCll said that he was not at all surprised at being told he had lost the confidence of the petitioners, for he had lone since differed from them in his views of politica. Ile wished, however, that the Hon. Member, that great proprietor of land, the Solomon of Norfolk, and the Solon of the Empire—he who alone was wise and popular, and who monopolized ill the independence of the house, had forborne to remind him of the circum stance. The Hon. Member then defended the CC/01111C' of the Magistrates who had been alluded to by the Ho:: Member for Norfolk, .~ %N. ih. WESTERN condemn►d the conduct of the Ma gistrates. The statement before the boos. required it: romilderatkn, and lie was convinced that it would never receive the sanction of Parliament. _ Mr. HUME said that the preeseineve virtualities of the Hoy the countryresteLved ham having Clergymen 'n the Commission 0, , the Pso.' From their natural anxiety fur promotion and livings they were ever court ing the attention of Government, and were always ready ,so he enhservient to it. Ile would (nether say that no violence of the State should be allowed to be In the Commisaion of the Peace. The Petition was then brought up and laid on the table. Sir W. ROSE presented similar petitions from the hooked, of Head wash and Shope, le the county of Snore. I Mr. WESTERN gave notice that on the earliest open day he would submit a series of Resolutions to the It •sse descriptive of the distress which affected all cloaca, par ticularly the agricoltn:4l, and with a view of showing how far that distress was attribahible to the altered value of the currency. • COIN 111fORTATION BILL. Mr. ROBINSON moved the Order of the Day for the third reading of ICI Bill. Mr. CURWEN raid he would oppose the Bill, as he considered it a great hardship on the agricultural in terests. Though he would never agree to iejure the fendbolder by lessening the amount of the National Debt, yet he was of opinion, that the fundhelder should ha called upon to contribute to the support of the poor. He would move that the Bill be read that day three months for the purpose of recording hie dissent. Mr. BRIGHT said that he considered that the agri- colorists bad taken a very erroneous view of the pro bable operation of the Bill. • Mr. WESTERN would not allow the Bill to get through a third reading withost giving it his final ma lediction. After a few went. from Mr. D. BROWNE, the Bill was read athirst doe and passed. 151511 TITHES. Mr. DALY rose to move the Order of the Day for taking into consideration the subject of tithes in Ire land. Mr. PEEL took the liberty of recommending to the Hon. Gent. sot to pros his motion at that late period of the Session, bat to give notice that be would call the at ' tendon of the Hasse to it positively the first week of the next Session. said that the considered that the Mr. DALY sa.. tne country cu_ House was pledged to the subject this year. He was willing to accede to the wishes of Hon. Members, and would go on or withdraw his motion as the House de sired. Sir E. O'BRIEN recommended the Hos. Member for Galway not to press his motion at that time. Mr. S. RICE hoped that his Honourable Friend would net accede to that recommendation in justice to public opinion, in jostice to himself, and to the people of lathed. Mr. D. BROWNE costarred in the necessity of going on with the motion, Sir J. NEWPORT was se folly impressed with the necessity of the Holm proceeding immediately to the discussion of the subject that he world bring it forward if the Honourable Member for Galway consented to Whirs' n it. r HUME asked if the Hoc Member declined to go the motion en which be bad gives notice, could Isis allowed to take it up on the instant and bring it to a vote ? ~The SPEAKER said that the matter wee one with out precedent, and the only answer he could give was, that when the Hon. Member for Galway sign;fied what his intention was, the next Hon. Member who caught the Speaker's eye would be in possession of the House. and entitled to bring forward any subjectthat he thought proper. Mr. BROWNLOW wished to koow if the subject was now deferred !umlaut to the. recommudetiosref the Right Honourable Secretary, would the Irish Go vernment engage to give it their support in the nett Session. Mr. DALY said, that be felt himself pledged to the House for that evening; but if he could reckon `upon the assistance of the Government. he would for such aid be happy to adjourn his motion to the succeeding Sea. sion. Mr. GOLTLEURN said, that as he was thus pointedly called upon, he would state that the subject was at pre sent under the attention of the Irish Government. And that next Session he would inform the House what the result of their investigation was—if successful, he would then explain the difficulties that might interfere to pre vent their founding any measure upon it. Mr. VESEY FITZGERALD trusted that if the Hon. Member for Galway would consider if he could really adva'ime the cause he advocated, by forcing it on the House at that time, and in that inauspicious m . Hews of opinion that a discussion at present was more likely to retard than promote his objects. Mr. C. H. HCTCHINSON, Sir H. PAR:YELL, and Mr. CALCILAFT• were of opinion that the Hon. Member for Galway (Mr. DalT), bad better proceed with his motion. Mr. PLUNKLTT advised the lion. Gentleman to postpone his motion. With regard to the general ques tion, he never had said that no specific measure could be proposed; although he himself could not see his way to one. He thought that next Session some speci fic measure would he brought forward ; and thought so far the principle of commutation might enter into it, as that land might be commuted for tithes; awl that was a desirable way of removing the difficulty. If this mo tion were pers evere d in until the final settlement of time matter, no one in Ireland would be found to.pay a por tion of tithes. Mr. DALY said, as he was then called upon to make a decision, he must say, that as his princip4l reason for making ie motion was to see bow they were to stand at the beginning of next Session, he was willing, site; what he had heard, to abandon his motion. The motion was then withdrawn. Mr.HUME then rose and said, that in consequence of the Hon. Member for Galway having quitted the field, it was his intention forthwith to take the matter in hand, and bring the whole question of Irish Tithes be fore the bouse.—(Fleur, hear, hear.) He bad for souse titer contemplated a motion on the subject, and seeing, as he did, with surprise, his Majesiy's Ministers were contented to sit idle for the rest of the Session with re gard to this heart-burning subject, whilst Ireland was in a state which required a military establishment, at an expense of two millions. he was not sorry for the oppor tunity of stating his views on the subject. If they were erroneous he would be corrected= it not,.he relied on the support of the house to rectify the evils which he considered to be at the bottom of the present state of that vo?iit r.. His views might be will and visionary, hut he confessed that he was not able to reconcile the long series of insurreetions in Ireland with the exist ence of the present tithe system alone. Tithes were in deed the principal cause of the present disturbances in Ireland. lie was anxioui to ensile the Clergy of Ire land to discharge their duties, bat he protested against , making them allowances disproportionate to those du ties. He wished to avoi I both extremes. IA bad been stated that tithes were property as 'weed as property of Any ether description. Ile was for preserving the rights of property inviolate, but church property had always been considered as at the disposal of the Government ; ; alai he contended they had a right to dispose of it sob wet to the rights of persons actually in existence.— (Hear, Hear, Hear.) T This right of interference b a d been exercised by the Parliaments of both conatries; the same right had been also exercised by the Governments of foreign countries. Claud' este. blishments were in fact no part of the Christisa Reg. giro, woe were they necessary for ite support. He had the authority of Doctor Paley for this position, and he (Mr. Home) contended that, at all events the allowance madeto the Irish Clergy was considerably too mech.—. This allowance was, of itself, a source of disaffectien ; but it happened that the duties themselves were most im efficiently performed. He admitted the service and re. respectability of a resident Clergy ; but a great pears,. tion of the Irish Clergy were absentees; and the many drawn from the industry of the people was spent at Bath, Paris and other place. Another ohjectiom to the present system was the present practice of the Ecclesiastical Courts; sad another was to be fused is the anode °feel teeing the tithes. The landed lientineem had lowered their relate, hut few of the Clergy hail lowered their tithes.—[The Honourable Member here stated au is stance of a refusal to lower tithes preportimeety with the fall is the aerieultaral produce.]a4lia had received many letters containing ether exempla. on the same subject; one from the Earl of °leaden, stalled, • rise In' the insoltit of tithe. made by the Bishop of Waterford. Ito had also the espy of an address to the OrendJoryedUalmiy, in the !triad Assizes of 1822. eomplehtilig of rise pressure or tithes, and stating that the petitioners were charged as much for tithe as they were when their peednee was four Owl its present value. These petitioners admitted that their rests had not been increased 4er thkty years. Ile tem ;l a n a i this circumstance to show hew 11111hig AS the charge made by hi. Majeety's /diallers l i s t e d the landed Gentleotee of Irelands bet Ministate were made enough to Shift blame front their owe shouldersspoe those et others. This was a subject of the lint mom florae* to this Matey. which was compelled le tappet, the expense of keeping down the unhappy people who were goaded by oppression to resistance. And, yet, the two, Right Hon. a rraries opposite, Bed the Alters's. General for Ireland, mere perfectly trilling to droves-kW inquiry, and to lows this load of eintrrieg enteechrd for the meting sin mouths. If the liervranseitt seats ed this "realm sad chewed nu disposition to memo it, the people wield be driven to resistance. He be. lieved that neither the Archbishops, sot the Bishs had dome their dots; for be srai prepared to show the evils attending their nonmaideate. Is ea; pest of this; his assertion, he had only to refer to the puldishniam respondence between Lord Bleyery awl the imbalaitsew of Castle Blayne?, respecting the neglect shown is their and his appliesdius to the Bishop of Clocher.—[The Hon. Member Isere read the arreepoodencej mils weeld ask the Right Hon. Secretary himself, whether he bad not, during the continuant* el his (disci. Indust, heard many complete*. of Clerical Aimenterehipi and this he (Mr. Hume) believed was a page% erne of the absence of Landed Proprietors. 'Hs lewd by returns on the tehis, that there were 12 7 0 begetter in Ireland, and theft only 710Llergymen wise N. sided upon their livings. Nom were more ready to ant about religtee.lim, his a ilte rs ity's Aim:sten yet it arse they who wieeminte • that guttered used asp tem of &trawls* nesletity t was • perfect mockery to suppose that the of Nedra , emuid remote the mil t for the evil eras Y' in abeentoesdelp. He oaslerswod that the late Map of De wan absent fifteen or twat" years from Inflated. The Had: Member here refined to the answers given by the Irish .Bishops W circular letter from the Lord Lieutenant, loquiri,:g the slam of the church. One of the inquiries was, sew the vales el the land in each diocese, end only one Bishop emewered the question. Of the 1270peresiss holding•honeises. only 460 bad made the memos required of thews. The property of the Bishops consisted of two-elf/Tomas ot Ike whole property. The Bids* et the whole Combent bad not em.leteme gig Ittgaseist the Higher tOrs-, land. no would prone this IT glebes,. world ge into • Committee as the subject. He believed England wad Ireland were the only contrite in Europe I. which a tenth: was exacted from the rodeos to support the Church. It was sold the Goveronteat was weaseled with the Church; but a Government which could Weep ported only by the Church did not deserve s he sap ported at all. He knew of no reason why this emeutry should not follow the example of Prance and othereses tries, in which tithes were abolished, and allwitieela made to the Clergy. Is some countries the Clergy tete allowed only a third of the testis, aid yet they were highly respectable.—[The Hoe. Member here refer* to a statement in support of his latter preposition. amo k; the mode in which the Clergy of foreign ma ttes were paid, and the amount of the paymentsj— Unless the root of the evil were to be skied at. it would be impoisible to expect relief, and he therefore !sweated the house not to refuse inquiry. Parliament had voted away sums for the support of the Church ; hit he was prepared to show diet most of the sums had found their way into the pockets of the great Dignitaries while the poor Curate, were left to starve. 'l'he objets of the Committee he intended to propose was principally to ascertain the value and distribution of the Church pro perty of Ireland. Unless a review of this Establishment were taken, it would be impossible to expect any remedy for thin grievance of so many centuries shoaling. He had no desire to interfere with existing interests. He would be satisfied, as he had no doubt the people would be, with a Resolution pledging itself early is the nest Session to take into its consideration the state of the Chirch Establishment of Ireland, with • view to make such iterations as may be found desirable. The Ho nourable Member concluded by moving a Resolution to this effect. ----- Mr. LLL:CE seconded the motion. He regretted that the Hon. Member opposite had given op his own m tiou on this subject. He preferred a motion of a limited nature, but he was quite prepared to support the presest motion. This, he apprehended, was no new question, for it bad long been considered that the subject week ultimately press itself on the consideration of govern' mint. He denied that the property called chnrch pro perty Was another than national property. subject to the rights of persons at present in possession of it. Tbe tithe system of Ireland was most oppressive ; he under stood that there were es mane at 46,1.100 snits for tithes in the county of Galway within the last live or sit years. Yet he was not disposed to exempt the landl•ml from the payment of tithes, because, as he had before mentioned. he considered the tithes as church pro,ierty. Mr. D. BROWNE said he was in favour of a comes tation of tithes ; hut he thought the revolattedill speech of the hot member would disincline menyval/0- bers from such a ail those who supported c ' a present motion. m tio si n u . ta H ti e o ( n t i l o r. v li ote ) ag esil s ed ins r o th li e Sir J. N FtY PORT said it was a matter of serious com plaint against those who had exercised the tiovernment of Ireland, that they bad left the question so long amet. tied to :gitste and irritate the public mind of that coot try. They were now promised that early in the awn Session the tiovernment would either bring forerardsome plan fur the remedy of the evils complained of, or the! would state that the efforts to provide such remedy had failed.—This dill not satisfy him. Five tears ago , the Noble Lord at the head of his Majesty's GOVCIIITeRt (Lord Liverpool) told Parliament and the country that. he should speedi'y he prepared with measures to ametta the tithe system of Ireland; and Moodier* were Ws* seqncasof induced to delay their exertions; but from dill , r . V 1 I I 1