The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-03-27 00:00:00

t • ascent in the year 1792. The decrease Oho much by his Majesty's Ministers was about -.oo4entb of the whole. He amid sot here avoid noti cing dm enormous expenses iocerespl in the office of Secreted of State in the year 1816: 'lleum *stir. - steel in the year 1915 for extra extraordinaries to Ambassa dors was 50,0001. but the sum afterwards voted was 145.5011. Of this MOON. went to Lord Castlereagh, 5,131/. to Lord Stewart, besides 6,538/. to Lis Lordship for extra couriers, and 4,1091. to Lord Cathcart. The year in question, however, was an extraordinary one for the lavish expenditure of thepoblic money ; for sacrifices made by treaty, and for other circumstances, which would long be remembered to the disgrace of the coop try. Over and above the sum he had mentioned he found 8,97 W. charged for plate presented to Foreign Mi •risters, though he found not a single present made to the Minister from America. To the presents made to the Prussian and Russian Ambassadors there was really r o end. It might be said that all these sums had been submitted to the vigilance and control of Parliament. — They bad but as Parliament had approved of them, where was that vigilance and control so much talked of? It had been said also that as pensions increased eateries y.nold naturally diminish, but he did not find that pen 'shins diminished as salaries increased. Indeed he thought it often happened that an Ambassador remain ed in office just long enough to qualify himself for a pension, and then made room for others. An apology had been offered for the increased allowance in the known rise of price on every article of house-keeping, and the circumstance of the exchange being 30 per cent. a. 4 ai nst this country ; but both of these were temporary They had since been removed ; but no diminu tion of expense bad followed. Why a reduction had not taken place it 'nicht be difficult to guess, unless these situations were connected with Parliamentary influence. In general, no person had any chance of rising in the' 'profession of diplomacy unless he had Parliamentary in. fluence. Formerly a man's talents, were sufficient to re • sure his eminence in this line; a fact of which Mr • Ethan, Lord Malinsbiay, and Mr. Fitzherhert, had been worthy examples. But now the most lucrative situa tions in this departmeot were filled only by the brothers, sons, and connections of members of Parliament. The Hague Pad formerly been the centre of European nego tiation ; but now it was one of the least important places in political consideration. Formerly a petty ap pointment at a petty German court would be thought scarcely worth the attention of any gentleman qualified for diplomacy; but now appointments of this descrip son were eagerly: sought after in consequence of their connection with Parliamentary influence. He thoughtit was perfectly unnecessary to pay Lord Clancartyl2,ooo/. a year for enlivening a ()etch town by his presence; a:id tie considered, that if that Noble Lord was not over paid. Sir Charles Stuart, another ambassador, was not paid enough. Then there was the recent appointment in respect of Se itz.olantl ; an appointment which might accord rery.well with certain recent appointments, but ay:th which the English people had no concern whatever, except in the way of payment. Gibbon, speaking of the embassy to the two Swine'', had observed, that the Ambassador wools! be better employed if he were sent to Mount Vesuvius, and desired to send an official ac c.ount of its occasional eruptions; and lie (Lord King) thought, that the Welch Ovntlemaa lately sent to Swit zerland might as well maim himself by sending over , an account of the minerals and other patural prodne. tions of that country. Whethei be did so or not, it was certain that Le was very well pild out of the ptiligxl money; hut a faction had possessed themselves of the hoard of Control, and this appointment proceeding from I them, might no doubt be thought highly proper. The Noble Earl opposite had terved Cis diplomatic appren ticeship opposite, and had no doubt been paid for the lose of his rollout and the other valuables of his library. The late appointment to Switzerland however be considered as a complete diplo•natic job. It might be said that the continuance of all these veteran Am bassadors was necessary to preserve the balance of power in Europe. If it were said the balance of power in the House of Commons the phrase would he perfectly in telligible. It was no doubt considered necessary to p ay 4,900/. a year for a Minister at Turin, lest the geardian of the Alps should fall asleep, and no doubt it was ne cessary to secure the independence of Germany by pay ing six thousand pounds a year for a Minister at Retie bon. lie would however do no injustice to the Noble Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. lie must admit that the Noble Secretary had reduced the number of Cirri:, in his Office from thirty-one to thirty, and from a just regard to economy had forborne to send an Am bassador to cnngratulste the King of Portugal on his art iral at Lisbon, though on a former occasion he hail s-iit an A iihassador to that city. when there was neither Icing nor Court there. Ills (Lord King's) complaint • is, that there were too many Embassies, and that iiIJIIV of them were too high in rank. Every advan tage nal Leen taken to increase their expense,.but none stas ever taken to reduce it. Ile conceived there was ungracious in asking the Crown to assimilate the expenses as much as possible to what it had bees hi fore the last war. It might be said that the allcw cures Isere not too marsh because they were always ex• vended . ; but this would he the case it' the allJwatices were even three times their present amount. He was convinced that influence and patronage were the objects of all this expense. The Treaaury bad swallowed up the petrona,e of every public Board, and almost of every public Off re. The Comtnander-in-Chief's Office was a source of patronage; the India Board was eo better than a job ; and the office of Third Secretary of State wits also a source of patronage. These were all upheld for purposes of inl'uence. Ile Mentioned tie India Board and the third Secretaryship of State, be cause he muss satisfied that one of them might be die per.sed with. They were kept up solely for purposes of influence ; and it had even * been shamelessly avowed, •th st fir the purpose of influence it was necessary to keep tip certain offices, whether they were useful or useless. No campaign in the course of the last war P a d been so successful as that of Ministers against the independence of Parliament. Whatever bad been their 1 errors during the war, they had been in this respect eminently skilful. !!ere they had shown no imbecility, mi nibbling policy. There had here been no expedi tions saving of Antwerp or the Helder, but there had h?en energy, promptitude, and perseverance, cot yield ilig to that of Bonaparte himself, and lastly, there had been complete success. Ministers had ton clearly shown how weak they were fer doing good; bow powerful for working evil. Tuey had by their councils 11.41115P.1 more mischief within the last 30 years than hod hefillen the country since the great Revolution. Millions hail been expended to preserve the influence which attended its expenditure; though he admitted there was one honor able instance of a great Statesman having sacrificed a pe')per corn to preserve some of those millions. But influence, all powerful influence, had, he thought, suc ceeded in annihilating the independence of the British Parliament. The Noble Lord then concluded by moving, " That an humble Aldress be presented to his Majesty, humbly representing to him, that the expendi ture relating to the Civil Government had greatly in creased ; especially that portion of it which consisted of payments to Ministers sent to Foreign Courts; and that the expense of the provision for them, which was made in the third of the classes.provided by the late act of his late Majesty for that purpose, was too great; that the reduction of this expense would be productive of mach benefit to his Majesty's subjects; and humbly request ing that his Majesty would be pleased to give orders for effecting a reduction in this and other branches of the public expense, so far as the same could be accent- I the plished reinsktentlywith the di nits of his 11114/figes Crown an/the happiness of bit imeeple." The Earl of LIVERPOOL mid, that lit fairly . mei deri ng at - ewes, of the ci ell Government there could. he thought. 5o no foundation bee dm charge Wind Ministers of a wanton desire to Merges* the public ex penditure awed he could sot sem& bin aurptiSe at such a 'charge coating as it did at each a time and uuaer inch circumstances as the present. The Report of the Finance Committee of 1817 was ens the table of their Lordships, stating the just amount of t h e public expen diture in the time of peace ; and it was a fact that the present annual expenditure was 1.200.000 i lower them , the sum fixed upon by that Committee. He would sib them was the charge warranted which bad bees brought by the Noble Lord against his Majesty's Ministers? tie (Lon' Liverpool) had stated last year the small pro portion which there was between the expense of the civil Governmeat compared with that of the military establishment. This was always overlooked ; and the latter expense it was not in the power of Gavernimot to reduce. The half-pay alone, which was a dead expense, amonntcd to five out of the sixteen mafiosi of the gene ral expenditure. Entleavonrs bad bees made by Go vernment I years ago to reduce the public bur dens; a committee had been appointed, and they effect ed a reduction in the Customs. He mentioned this merely to chew that Government bad endeavoured to diminish the public expense. Bat justice was due to the civil servants of the Government as well as the others; though reduction cduld not be effected sudden ly. Ile would consider what reductloas could be effect ed immediately and what gradually : first, he would co- Ike the observation of the Noble Lord as to the power ni Parliament over the Civil List. He admitted to the fullest extent the power of Parliament on all subjects; but it had always been a maxim among the first states men that so long as the Crown kept its enemies within the Civil List allowance, Parliantent Owlet terfere with it. In fact, this forbearance of Parliament was intended as a temptation to the Crown to regulate its expenses within that allowance. He admitted that the particular branch alluded to by the Noble Lord was perfectly distinct, and ;vas therefore an exception to the rule ; but then it confirmed the doctrine in question as to ail the other breaches. He must here correct as er ror into which it appeared the Noble Lord had fallen. The Noble Lord bad stated that on his present Majesty's accession. Parliament had settled the Civil List accord ing to the standard of the currency is 1816; before the passing of the measure, generally called Mr. Peel's Bill, and that as that measure bad considerably affected the currency, it should have been taken into consideration on the occasion in question. This argument could only mean that Parliament with a full knowledge of that mea sure had so settled the Civil List; bat in point of fact the settlement in question took place at a time when the exchange was considerably against this mom try ; so that in either point of view the amount was not affected by the alteration in the currency. The addresses to his Majesty, voted last year by both Homes of Par liament, called for an inquiry into all establishments, and all salaries increased since the commencement of the late war, so as to bring them back as nearly as pos sible to their original state. In consequence of these Addresses, Government had considered it to be their duty to institute the most minute enquiries into these subjects ; and a plan, the consequence of those enquiries, would come before their Lordships, he believed. in a legislative shape. According to the fair Meaning of Guise Addresses, Government might lir-e base storied ; but having accomplished thus much, they thought their plan could not be carried into ere .1 without injustice to individuals; and they therefore considered it to be their duty to ad eh* the issue of an Order of Colman respect/mg such offices, the salaries of which bad not been in creased ; and which bad continued stationary without refitrence to the changes caused by tear erproce. It was thought but just that the individuals reemving those sa laries should be called upon to give up 10 per cent. from their incomes. The sacritice made by Isis Majesty had been noticed by the Noble Lord very fal o r i lv and although Ministers, in recommending. it. w hate suffered no inconvenience themselves.. .a was bat due in the feelings of the Sovereign to declare. that on his part it had been altogether voluntary. The whole humiliate annual saving amounted to 200,0001. within a fraction; and there was a further annual savieg in prospect of 170,0001. ; and it was for Parliament to consider whe ther Government had not, under all the Mcomstances, done as notch as could be fairly asked. He now came to the third class of persons in the proposed new ye' inet.t, and which had been particularly observed upon by the Noble Lord, with respect to the allowance made to Ministers abroad. A comparison bad been drawn be tween the present expense and that of the year 1792; but it was not generally kuown that the scale Of expense fur 1792 had been framed upon one for the year 1721 ; and that no alteration had been made on that scale until the year Iso4, being a period of 83 years from its ori ginal adoption. He really submitted, that it would be absolute ruin to a person acting in , the diplomatic line to engage upon the old allowance, unless he had a large fortune, on the certain prospect of s retired allowance. It happened, however, that this very subject had been cousidered by the Committee of 1816—be considered the ' then estimate a fair use. lie would tonfideotly appeal to any person acquainted with diplomatic subjects, and with foreign countries, whether theme was the least ex-' cess in these allowances, unless the individual were called upon to hit • e with his private fortune. He would put this fairly, on general grenade, without refer ence to any particular case, and without enquiry whe ther the allowance was a little over in one place, or a little under iu the other. But then it had been objected that seine of their appointments were of a higher nature than were necessary ; and Holland and Switzerland had been particularly mentioned. As to Holland, be certainly thought that, if Ambassadors were considered useless at every other Court, the necessity of one for Holland would still he admitted. The opinions of all great public men on this subject were unanimous ; even those of Mr. Pitt and Mr. Fox, when politically opposed to each other. The Court removed periodically from Brussels to the Hague, so that it was necessary for the Ambassador to be at a considerable increase of ordinary expense, almost that of a second establishment. With respect to Peters burg and Vienna, it would be thoggitt a niggardly policy to discontinue the sending orAnthassaari to those Courts, cons,dering all the circumstances relative to their i nportance in European politics. A Noble Friend of his opposite (the Duke of Hamilton we believe) had been sea t as Ambassador to the Court of Petersburg, at a time when there was certainly no disposition to in terfere with its politics. The appointment respecting Switzerland was, be contended highly necessary. In 1813 and 1814. touch had depended on the Influence of this country witb regard to the independence of Swit zerland, and So it zerland felt grateful for the exercise of that influence. The importance of Switzerland ought not to be oudervalned ; for on account of its geographical situation, it might. next to Holland, be considered as the key to Europe. it was impossible that a couutry border ing on France and Uernsany could be considered as un important. With regard to the fitness of his Hon. Friend who had been appointed, lie would only observe, that he (the Earl) had appointed him to a former situation in the diplomatic line, at a time when no onicould suppose the appointment was caused by political partiality. In all these appointments the ordinary rules bail been ob served as closely as possible. He begged to repeat his ob servation, that it had been considered necessary, in con sequence of the redactions he bad alluded Is, to make individuals not reduced, contribute 10 per seat. in sid of the fund which was provided for dose who were. On the whole, he confidently sultrniyted that no one :C -loister was overpaid. The appstments lead been liber ally made to avoid the necessity of tette eafraordi which had become very frequent ; but it we* usdoubt edly better to make no appointments at all Om any whiadi would sot amble the objects of them to sustain their tpoblic characters. Hs conceived that the Noble Lord bad made out se case whatever in support of his I motion, and be should therefore give it his decided op position. Lord HOLLAND thought the question lay within a very narrow compass, sad came to this, whether or not a lavish expeaditere had been sanctioned by Govern ' ment—whether or not expensive establishments had I been unnecessarily kept tip. They had beets told over and ever again by the Noble Earl, that the establish meats bad been reduced as low as possible, so u to save every shilling. He had held very lofty luggage on this subject both in and out of that house, and had in effect said, " by the tenure of the existing establish ments I hold my situation, and the moment they are touched I have no more to do but to lay my dutiful re signation at my Sovereign', feet, fur I will not conduct the Government of the country unless adequate means for carrying it on in a manner consistent with its cha ✓acter and interests, continue to be afforded." When, however, these establishments had been reduced, the Noble Earl, with what grace he would not say,. bad promptly started up arid claimed the • retrenchments forced span him as a part of his plan, and which he had for years opposed as injurious to the country. The Noble Earl bad fairly stated that the part of tfie Civil List which related to the provision made for the Crown, was not now open for discussion. He concurred with the Noble Earl in this, and though, if the question were before them 4 he might he inclined to suggest different arrangements, and to snatch, without the slightest re morse, some of those allowan,es which had been thought necessary, but which he did not regard as such, for the honour and dignity of the Crown. The third class, as the Noble Lord bad admitted, was open for their con sideration. If then any man could think after referring to the returns, imperfect as they were, which appeared on their Lordship's table, that there was no case of ex ern made oat, he was bound to vote against the motion of his Noble Friend ; but if, after the statements which had been made, it should be found that those expenses were greater than were necessary for the services of the country, and under existing circumstances a redaction of expenditure was necessary, lie was bound to vote for the motion now before the House. The Noble Earl was fond of referring to the Report of 1816. This was con venient foe the sake of enuipaeisea. The Civil List ex penditure of 1791, the Noble Earl bad told them had been calculated on the scale of 1721. Bat if be were not mistaken Committees had sat is 1796, and 1790,and report e in favour of idiminutiou rather than for an increase. Much was the slate of things before Mr. Pitt plugged himself and his country in that wicked, abominable, la visb, and melancholy war which had cost the country so much since 1733. Instead of angmenting the provision which had been made, he had thought of adopting a sys tem of greater economy than that of 1786. He wished to show bow this case stood, by referring to the actual expense of different periods. He mast remark, that the Noble Earl when asked whether any saving bad been ef fected on the third chino,' the Civil List, had answered with great prudence, that he would noj say what saving had been made,or whether there was any, hut if there were any, it had been carried to the Consolidated Fund. This was only telling them, that if there were any, he had not been so imprudent as to disobey the law of the land; Mat bad dealt withuoith saving as he was eajoined to do by law. He hoped after this answer had been given to his Noble Friend by the First Lord of the Treasury at a time whom be was anxious to bring all the savings which had been made before that House—be hoped it would not be thought uncandid in him (Lord (Iollsod) to as sess* shot se savings had in this instance been made. The Noble Earl bad left one great collateral part of this question wholly unnotieed—the mildew and half-pay last. Me believed he bad dose eis, becalm ha felt this to he a very weak part of his case. Me. Pitt's estimate Of the whole expense thus to be incurred, including con suls in 1786, being a time of peace when there were many inferior Governments in 13erope, who were not lees independent than those with whom we were con nected at the present day, his estimate of the whole ex pease of salaries was 70.8521. In 1904, after going deeply lase the French revolutionary war, he estimated the exposes which onght to be thus incurred in time of peace, at 112,000(. From the estimate of 1816, it would be found the actual expense was then 174,0001. 0, but then, it had bees assumed that this charge would be thrown ors the country, as tic situation to which such Counts were attached would ba filled up by those who!were on the half-pay list, and receiving money for other services from the country. bit the IGLU-pay and Pension List had not been kept down by this arrangement, as in 1816, compared with what it was in 1804 it had increased 130 per cent. and compared with what it was in 17136, the increase which had taken place amounted to 350 per eeet. That it was fitting an increased expense should be borne in some cases he ad mitted. lie agreed that it was perfectly proper to se cure to the servants of the country abroad from suffering by the exchanges so that they might know the actual amount of their salaries. lie then came to the changes which had been made with respect to our ernhassiu. in consequence of the modern Continental arrangements. The Noble Earl had spoken of Switzerland as being en titled to greater respect than had been thought due to her formerly. He had told them of the geographical situation of Switzerland, surrounded as she was by France, by Italy, and Germaly. When they were told this, it was impossible to refrain from the remark that Switzerland was surrounded by the same countries, in former times when the expense incurred nu account of the resident there was but 2601. instead of its present amount, 4,9001. or 5,1:001.. lie conld not ray which. It ivas true that certain Princes had been elevated and ag grandised who did not formerly claim such titles as now belonged to them. Electors had been made Kings, and we had nothing to do with mean dirty Republics, who, however, in the time of Sir It. IValpole, and after his time had cocdoeted their affairs with as lunch crei:it and success as they had been conducted with by tli 43 who bad succeeded theta. Up to 1793, the expense of our resident in Switzerland was but 250/.. and Switz..; land, he contended, was quite as important then to this country as she had been lore. In 1793, the geogra phical situation of Switzerland remained the same, but leer political situation was ninth changed, and Mr. Pitt very properly thought it right to send a person there of higher rank than the former resident, and one I who was mote in the con fi dence of Government. An other person was according.). sent, with a salary of one I Musical pounds. Thus it remained till a time of pear., arrived and all necessity of employing an active agent had ceased, when the salary was raised forsooth to 4,9001. or 5.300/. He would now look to Geruutuv. There our expenses were more than doubled. The poll ' (teal situation of Germany was much changed. Not , withstanding our prodigious love for the House of ins tria, he could not see why, to use an homely phrase, sue was to be regarded as • "greater card" for Englaed than she had formerly been. Formerly, we hail sin 111 . IN• shwas in Germany; how we hid seven ; yet the powers with whom we were connected were nut more uume eons, but were, on the contrary. fewer than they were. There were higher titles; hut, it a petty German l'rinee raised himself from the rank of a Ntargrave to that of an Elector, or from being an Elector or Duke became a King, it was hard that the people of this country should have to pay their servants more on that accuunt. In tire six slimiest@ ployed es honest ever served their ployed elsewhere The sum total • was 16,5501. been doubled doubled; it new. would pet it to the t elude that them was be disapproved respect to the 7 !icy advocated being opposed of Sir William genet yet bein to support it, he for sending an en that existed for lot reason fur Isis indig that their me every shilling - ' lag the name oologium on his , net to the anginente that then weru r bassailor at Pgrit .odors elsewhere. Noce should be lersisbed no reason loasadors and• - Is noticing the he complained theirs extraordil resontries. He t made in this respect. pared the expense inc ries in their diplomacy. the relations of the United from that of England, might be supposed U. whole world would r by this roost ry for however, be found alone cost the 2,0001. the total :states in that year, this. He would well answer such of :heir Lordshi' nis:er on other t this proved that I ries, but he thong lavish expenditure Country. obeli wilted in theit and 350 per cent. our expenses f fold the amout Adverting to th. of oar commanders, of Russia and Prost war, they had come ter . , could offer, sition from war try—of the evil theories since evils which 0 leagues had 1. peace was then of happiness. been pursued wards our ancient demised is bitter' a species of mil the lots she l• of that loan, to pay the expenses one quarter. Lor' part of Europa. the odious 0 went the grouted. whether it was should tidal« wish to see this and had therefore where interfeteoce a man, he sincerell mote when that Lord ELLEN. moved for would , vestigation which 'rheum papers charges in 1791 they did not sh _-atingencies of presents, , and various other incidental expenses, which formed , o large an item in the amount of the expenditure of fo- reign sliuisters, that it was equal to the salary done. If the real auto charged for foreign Minister, was sot now greater than in 1792, yet he thought the clanged circumstances between the two periods would eve' in tify a considerable allowance in addition. Oat of Lao changes was the depreciation in the value of mosey, is consequence of the circulation of paper. Foreign3ll - were subject to various expenses which required a considerable revenue to meet them. It (reread, happ-ned that five or Si Tentlemen accomp wird the Embassy and establishaPthemselves in the Losus of the Am bassadors. The Noble Baron, in reading the items of 1815 and 1816, forgot to observe one circuit stance by which this country gained no small sating. it consequence of the Noble Marques', who was then our Minister to the Congress of Vienna, having signed all the treaties alone, while all the other Powers bad several Plenipotentiaries who signed them, and received taco the usual present of IMO/. on the signing every Treaty. The Noble Lord then proceeded to detail the away ad vantages that might be gained by affordieK liberal alba &aces to those on foreign Eiuh.,ssies. Expeuditure i .diplomacy appeared to him to be information—expend i .• tore in diplomacy was despatch of business , and tech :- tated the acquiring those resolts which the Govtroment at home were most anxious to obtain. Expenditure in , diptomacy stood in the place of secret service money; sod to cot down the allowance would he to deprive them of the enemas of associating is ith those ci-cir , ' and Whining persons of that from whom :5e aary . iaforusatioo could be pro. med. If the fereiga eateston be curtailed in i , s expenditure, Gorcrzment would he driven to the alteriou lee of gis;eg them secr et service money for the pnrpo.e •.t o:oarning there emits which Ministers at home n, i,r he anxious to Wile With regard to the state of viewing is di' i : he gave credit to those, ti, h• . their good poacj ' 1 " nine negocirtions, antwit1,;7..,,..; , ,e the various and .:0 1 ; . Meting interests of (HMI-en; 1 .0 r., kept them in a gee of amity, and Europe, a he: !he threats ..f War, sus still at pe.ice. The question was t.r.r. !.!.! wiz' the mclian seas c, geared without a divie:ou --.t,:jeurocid at nine u'eto.d. HOUSE 01: C. , MMONS- There !win: only to en . v •. , n • Memhers present at far o'ckek, :Le Speller me!joit-?,-.1 the noose. The &Vey (a private 0,10 Whit'll arrived A Or days ago in the river Cly.l hga navigated the giolA in little mere than two f PLYMOUTH. MARCH l't3 —lt is io conremplaion to throw an iron bridge &troy' , the river Tamar, Irmo Salfash. A plan, with a report of the I eao6ts lihdi to accrue from this stupendous a his laccu submitted fur approval. I i i ' . - . - 1 .1 1 : 1 l. 44 1 - • '. ) 1 P i a , 1 h ti i . 1 I l i i ' 11 l I ' $ t . ' ' ' ' s 1 • i , i jrl , l 7 •' , ' I ) 1 MI . 11111 ~'~~ ~ , t to formerly 7;:7=7:gnred a a tebs t i t ud e i; milt puew va rt * id their coontry; mime of who. had as " hee l . total which had bees paid un ' • Of. It might be said by Mae, if this fled what did it s ik n if y r lint it eosin?: it now asseenteel to 41,311 W. Statin g it to the he... if they bast net they eras some excess in this class. Tlate sin roved of the cour se w hi c h b a d b een taken the Netherlands, as bei ng opposed to the rated by the great men of fernier times loosed to those principles which had the llu . D Him Temple, King Willi am, and prifte Bc tbeing eeterediuto this system, sod t it, he admitted thatit f urn i s h e d some ;Un - ; - ix an embassy. He regretted the ed for looking into th ese expenses; Bu d ,„„ 1 r his indignation against the Gottesman wl6 na had :nada it nece ssery to lootaa. ling paid to the publi c servos ' s. Is Lumina! one of Sir V. Stuart, be pronounced a warp on his character and s erv i ces . He olinted augmentation of his allowance, and hesheaed lo were reasons why the allowance to per A M . ✓t Paris h ou ld b e greater than that of Asil.4. ewliere. He would rather the present &ile a . lid be augmented than diminished: bat tys no reason fur increasing the inemateof all Ai h . and of those connected with their nabassi e, log the general arrange:uruts of nor diplo Diac; tined that so many envoys and plenipsi c i. traordinary should base ben sent to ildlevag lie thought a very great saying ni g h t h his respect. On a fernier occasion heing, a . expense incurred by the United &Mese( Ana eir diplomacy. Allowance was to be made fUt anent the United States being very ditfereet of England. Bot looking to the year 1,15, la supposed that relations of America with tY 6 rid would occasion an ex pense equally i sesere i mat ry for its diplomacy in Germany. It tre:l4, be found that the mission of Lord Castlon / 6 t the country 43,00 W.. which exeade4 ,e total expense of the diplomacy of the Celia that year.' Yet what adnntagewaspie e d would ask a Noble Friend of his Ma coal] rer such a question—or be would ask say aft ardsbips if he bad ever met an America M. other than equal terms. He did sot say fiat ad that we should imitate the system of Ate. he thought it an approximation to proof that a penditure had taken place on the part of fin obeli it was seen that salaries bad been aup their total amount Citt per cent. at One paws. ter cent. at another; and when it trustee that uses for diplomacy were three, four, or fire amount of those incurred by other . mestrie. g to the victories pined by the valour asd meanders, and the visit paid by the Moneta t and Prussia to this country at the cloud in had come daubed over with all that senile d:1. i offer, and then we bad not beard of the tret• in war to peace which was to afflict the NOW he evil of plenty, nor of any of the arnica since invented to cover the real maws ofthwe cla the measures of the Xoble Eal aid his Ca- had brought npou the country. The robotic( s then hailed as that which catered the retail seas. Ile then ceasured the policy which had 'sued with respect to Italy, and especially ta- x ancient ally the King of Ssniiaia, and con. s bitter terms the conduct of Autzia, who Ly of swindling and robbery, refined larva of she had obtained from England. Oa mum us, be believed, we should sever get milk e expenses of oar Ambassador at twos for ter. Looking at what was passing in maker 7 ..nrope, he could not but expreas a wish that is O meat of Turkey might he bright is lad. He eared sot whim* the blow am. it was dealt by Hassle es by Greece, bet he Ijoioe to loath that it was struck. He did sec see this country espied I. a distant teatest, therefor* no desire that she (bald idolise terfetence was not absolutely °smeary, hat if e sincerely hoped that the day was sot very te- en that Power would be overthrown. !:LLENBOROUGH observed, that the papers I would not afford the opportusity of that la. in which the Noble Lord sought to obtain. spers now laid on the table, pninted est the in 1791 for the salaries of the embassies, bet not state the contingencies of presents, ball:, tus other incidental expenses, which formed w item in the amount of the expenditure of fo- iuisters, that it was equal to the salary alone al sum charged fur foreign Minister, was pot ter than in 1792, yet he thought the cbaag, of ince, between the two periods would eve' ire isiderable allowance in addition. One of then was the depreciation in the value of meaty, id nee of the circulation of paper. Forev . 3l 4 ;• ere subject to various expenses which lel= enable revenue to inert thew. It freready I that five or yentleneen accomptemi the. , and establishoo•tbrniselves in the hawed assadors. 'l'be Noble Baron, in ret!ing the 1813 and 1816, forgot to observe one c:retu . it• °lie), this country gained no sma ll sating, la ace of the Noble Marques., who was thee oat to the Congress of Vienna, having signed at es alone, while all the other Powers Indoor:1 intiaries who signed them, and received eta present of 1,0001. on the signing et cry Tr esti I. than ...... eo detail the awl Id'