The Statesman. — London, England, 1810-03-17 00:00:00

Ali ~~ ~"r~.:.. • ' for (hist ies his inntiois. But if the heads of thwe departments opposed his motion, it was obvious that they wished for concealment, and it was equally obvioui that there was something wrong. In the Commons of Ireland a systetn had been adopted of laying the account of expences cur the table before voting the supplies, and it had been found one of the best expedients for facilitating the public business; but if tbcy were to be now called on to vote away millions without knowing how the past money had been disposed of, abuses of the must dangerous nature might be left mle tected. In 1808, he found 6,600,0001. voted ; be found only an account .of 4,900,0001. paid, making the groat difference of 700,0001. He should, therefore, move for an account of the sums voted in the last Session for services performed, or to be performed, specifying the sums and ser vices as ter as ran be ascertained. Mr. A. COOPER objected to the motion, nil the grunted that it was impossible to obtain the account ; the charges for the foreign stations, and even fur the army at home, could not be brought into a state of account for a considerable time after they occurred, so considerable a time as to make any compliance with the present motion perfectly impossible. • Sir T. TURTON• 4ad heard nothing in opposi. tion to the statement of the lion. Mover. Mi. Sisters could contrive to get accounts from . even Quebec and Demerary, when it suited their pier. pose to come down to that House for money. Out what was it but nonsense, if that word were net unparliamentary, to have a head of Coutiagencies and Current Services, in an account not prospec. tired but which had passed the office ; he found those 'singular heads . in the (*lichee and Demerary accounts. There must be still enormous abuics What became of the pay of that immense part of our force which only existed upon paper ? •What of that part which had lately been. invalided ?• Re found even in the returns before. the House a farl. ing oil in one year, from 92,000 to 76,000 men ; where was their pay ? Mr. CREEV observed, btt the most ob. • noxious part of the expence was that incurred for buildings; they created .an expence to support them ; they created a patronage, and it . was one •f the omissions in an- lion: G.,:itleman's (Mr. Rose's) book, that isehad, passed vier this branch of patronage and influence. What was the folly of building or ,purchasing an'immenre mansion for the Itlaster.Geogral of the Ordnance ? It watral. most a sinee4re.; te,rd Cornwallis heist it while in Ireland, Lord Chatham while ow' the Expedition, And now the Master. General had ietriated, and the Treasurer ran away. • Colonel WARD LE- svas aware of the ready li. berality of Ministers in acceding 'Nto•motions for papers ; hut thou they never gaictbilis. lie hail moved, some months since, for aipaccount of the Expeneei of the Artillery.drivers Corps, and he bad never been able to see it on the table. Mr. PERCEVAL appealed to the general con. duct of Administration for an answer to the 'large of reluctance in, giving accounts. • Per ' that head been the ob. feet candour on . had _ • ject of his Majesty's GevernMent ; but it was not on them, but on Parliament, that 'any charge of delay 'must fall; • they only stated the reasons which were or were •nut stlstit ted the flohite. As to the Quebec accoutits, they happened to have come in time for the geue. vial statement, and they • were, of course, not thrown off into a future one. The Honourable: Gentleman (Mr. Parnell) would, on looking into the accuuuti of 1807, 6ud its monies Toted for expencas that wore only to occuri and be ..mat. ter of account in 1808, and so ow.: An lion. Member had stated the grievancoof public works, bit it should be remembered they were under. taken at a time whets the country and. the House were calling out for fortifications ; when they were actually besieged night after night, by the ion. portianities of UCIR. Members, till they yielded tothe genera) „desire, mad commenced those works, which they could not now cease, without making all they had done worthlass. He had no objection to giving the account Of 1808 ; but this unnecessary call for accounts disturbed the business of the offiees in a very serious degree. There was a Board of Commissioners now sitting, from whose labours: the most valuable results might Ins expected ; yes t, it *even required, to supply the necuunts for that Board, tile incessant labour of a number of the Clerk' in the Office from which the Hun. Mover must be answered. Mr. PARNELL explained, and aftet a few words, relative to modifying his original motion, moved, That the accounts of the sums voted iq 1908, be laid upon the table. specifying the saws and services to which they were severally applied. Strangers were than ordered to withdraw, when a division took place— For the Motion • Aphid it Majority 4l CAMPAIGN IN..PORTIJGAL AND SPAIN. On the' re - adintirsios' i of sliihirees, "vie Tault. the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER on his legs ' making au observation on what we understood to have been a notice of a motion, re. speedo/the conduct of the campaign in Portugall and Spain, by Mr. Sheridan. On this 'head the, ikight Hon. Gentleman remarked, supposing. the elution in the first instance to he for papers, hew voluminoits a mass they 'would form, if it was , the intention of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr., S.) to more for all the doeuMents. Mr. SHERIDAN replied, that his intention was to move a Resolution of Censnre upon his Majesty's Ministers, for their 'grins misconduct and unfortuuate miscarriages during the campaigi e which the documents already in the possession of the House would hear out, and not' o move (or more papers, not one of which, if their were actually on the table, should he ever look into or read. WALCIIEREN INQUIRY. A Member,lie the absence of Lord Porchester, renewed the nsitice of that Noble Lord, omi t, stated, that as , the examination of Rooms hid. closed lust night, it waseertitely the intention but Noble Friend,. bring ftwitard his. Reiblutions timid d tso that 'napery,' ifillrotiday the 26th ' . . ♦ soft' • L'4 I- _-_ .114 ST AT V. i Sir MARE WOOD observer) upon this, that he tenderstooti it to be the intention of the Hun. Member for Yorkshire, to give notice this night et is motion to put oil' die discussion for a week. later than tire '26th instant, if it should meet with the appro i hation of the Gentlemen on the other side, ass -the investigation had laattol many &pi longer than was qriginally exPectpd. 'SICK AND CONVALESCENTS IN WALCIIKREN. Ordered, nu the inotion• of Mr. BATHURST, after , a slight alteration suggested ► by the Chancellor of the Exche quer, " that there be laid before the Flotise, an isecuent Of the number of transports reported to the Quarter -Master- Gamin], or Commander In Chief la the Island of Witicire- ren, as ready for the reception of sick and c onvalescents in the Island of Walcheren, from the Ist of September to the 10th of October, 1809, mto( the times at which such Re ports were made; together with Returns of sick and con valescents actually embarked." , CAMPAIGN IN SPAIN. On the motion of Mr. WHITBREAD, an Address was voted to his hlajesty, that be would he graciously pleased to direct that there be laid before the House Copies or Ex tracts of .various DucUnsents relative to the Campaign in Spain, viz. Commutdeations front his Malestv's Secretary of State to Lord Viscooat Welliegino ; to the Commissary Ge neral, relative to the pay of the Forces; the Letter of Lord Wellington to Marshal Beresford, dated July 1809; Commu nications relative to theieiding a British force to Cadiz; Re preseutations of Mr. Stuart relative to the &mafiosi of a Central Goverinueot in Spain, and various Communications to . Mr. Frere. BANKERS' DRAFT BILL. Mr. GILES moved the Order of the Day for the second reading_ t if the - Bankers' Draft Bill. Mr. WHARTON desired to know upon whit ground the Hon. Member thought this measure necessary I Mr. GI LE/ stated, as the g round of his Bill, tat the tax upon Bankers' i dastfts watt unproductive p that it tit persists to much incoostosience ; and that the modes resorted to fur evading the talt 'inch as the lin v log iron chests in their carts , iu which mullet, — had their notes conve3ed from town to them. had thee :of dituithshing the Pust-odice revenue. ten On these g rosinav • thought that the tax ought to be taken off altogether, or the limit extended from ten to forty miles distance from the residence of•tlie drawer. Mr. WHARTON and the CHANCELLOR of tbeE)C. CH EQUER -both contended, that nothing that bad fallen from the Honourable and Learned Gentleman was sulticieot to induce them to give up a tax, which produced 30,0001. an- der the improved regulations. Mr. Wharton moved that the Bill be read a second time this slay six mouths. Mr, DENT supported the motionof Mr. Giles, and recom mended that all Notes re-issuable should he made subject to a tax ou their being re-issued, a measure which would be a check upon the issue of country paper, and oblige spectilt lag bookers to cousne the issues of papers within the limits of their actual capitol. The question was then pot. and the Atneadinent agreed to without a division; by which the Bin was thrown out. ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. Mr. LUSIIINGTON brought up the Report of the Committee of Supply on the Ordnance Es. ammo. On the question being put, . Mr. BA,NILES rote, and observed, that there was in the Ordnance Department a great degree of extravagance, yet still it was but justice to say to theilott. Gentllman'on the other side, that in the last year it hat been much. diminished ; but if ' there Was one-siXth . more taken from those ex- OfiOces, there would more benefit accrue, and more, would he saved, then would compensate for the' services in which they were lavished. ITC would pot now:enter: fully into the subject, but would call the attentittil of the House' to $ few points. He commenced by remarking thOlterease of turd. fications which were illiNexiAlitulland and in the West India Islande f ,Pleces to little subject to itn-• mediate controls!, iblei 'lfeuderell - such pro jects extremely dangerous t_llse system of re. taining places by fortification was altogether culpable. and disailvantageoes s . situatea as we are. Ili mat 'motioned the heavy charge of the 4iisfight horses and drivers; and thence ,proccederf to' ex patiate on tho expeoces incurred by the internal defunct of this eountry. Ile condemned the haste which an almost momentary . free of invasiho tic. =shined, when stints were unjustifiably expended, and projects hastily considered andis'hastily pur sued. Thu next point he complained of was, the mode of conducting business in the several depart.. menti of the Gtivcrament. lid . appreved. of . the spirit of emulation which they cherished, but. Pe. probated its consequenies ; they being indacell to spare no expeoce iti any project, and to heedlessly lavish away immense sums. All this, he said, was' ' the result of no controul being placed over them. He then observed, that •an estimate ought to ex. hibit all the services which were to be performed, together with the exact sums necessary foi - such services ; but in the present, each item was-not fairly specified, but one made •to cover ano. ther. In these estimates no mention was made of the lams expended in the buildings of the office, which is itself an instance of ioaccu. racy ; liken i:c there was an omission of a pow der mill, which •is stow erecting. • Last year there was 600,000). taken hi for saltpetre, Which was expended in other services which were nut estimated. The civil services, too, were one: third lower than was specified. The Duke of Richmond, he said, at the end of the American war, commenced improvements in the Ordnance; it continued improving to the present time, but still mach was wanting yet. He conceived that it was absolutely necessary, first fur the Executive Government, and secondly.for that House, to in. quire not what "was. wanting, but what they could do withont.• Mr. W. POLE observed, that after having on a former night so 101 l occupied . the attention of the House, he felt some reluctance in' occupying Vs Is ttentlon now ; bet the'• eitcsmotanicee—statid ,by the •lionousable Gentleman demanded that lie should set . the !leen right with respect 16 them, His observations on the West India Islands he agreed with ; but still the Ordnance was not cul. gable; when he belonged to that department, he was most asixi,,es that a reforM should be Made, and always acknowledged the necessity of c s alling persons to an early account; this considoratiou ; was not new, but has long occupied the attention of the Board. There has been a reduction' of a million and a half in that department,.but bowel really astonished when his. liostowrable Friend mentioned the idea Of reducing it one sixth more; he wished lie had "gone fairly into the question Ind:was sure the Board would pay the strictaat•l •attention to any advice from such a voice. 'Mellon.' Qesstlemsn had /Nadal to the Martello Towers, but on this subject he adverted to what lies.aid ots a fernier oeca.ion. The next observation. of the ne cessity 'of the 'Ordnance departtnent being under ,the controul of his Majesty's MisiistcrS ;,in this he perfectly agreed. The illant. Getitioean, he ,said, shook his head, and so did a. very great', Astancier near him. [..1 lough.] SIM he won't, lotort that when he was Clerk of she Oednanee,.is Nie Costomisiy la aim to be with the eaticenees to - ` ", • vA N. R , ~' 7.1 the !rime Lord of the Thasory, end veldt him to discuswevery item. With reaped to the estimates nut; being fairly laid, he le this agreed with the bon. Gentleman, bet yet, he said, we are not to he accused of this. He thee mentioned the man ner in which engineers were aCcustomed to give in their estimates; said he did not understand what he meant by contingencies and current services, and alluded to the. time in which Mr. Wickham was Secretary for Ireland,. when great sums were expended for what were called field works. Mr. H °MUSSON defended his statement ott a former night with respect to the Financial System, and contmided that something ought to be done to form a permanent system, in as to meet the exigencies of the war, which might bo carried on for some time. It was therefore necessary thdt - Governntent should be apprized to• what extent she resources of the country would enable them to carry on the contest. Ile•lSCUlntnentiell a scale of expenditure suited til that reetaonty which was desirable. In furtherance of, this opinion, he adverted to several of the items in estimates which he considered deserving of no. lice.; hut, at the same'time, was disposed to ad. mit, that his ,Hight Honourable Friend (Mr. Pole) was inclined to adopt those principles which, he wishtxlito inculcate. . • • . Gen, TA RLETON considered the fortifica dons, upon which some Gentlemen depended ure f itly,were.usekes, particularly Modelle Towers., Vputs the subject of the defence, he was firmly of epinion, that if engineers were consulted they would not approve of these works. Mr. WHITBREAD, in .allusion to what had. fallen frum the Right Hun. Gentleman (Mr. Pole), ,declared,. that he (Mr. W-) neither fancied him. self a General, an Admiral, or an Engineer, but had examined the estimates, as became his duty as a Member of • Parliament. With respect to the estimates, he had examined them minutely, and was completely ignorant of what could be meant by " Current services and contingnaties." He *hid searched to discover the meaning, bet could not find any explanation,.. The Hon. Gen. tlernan thought that estimates should have been laid before the House of .the exPence of the Mar. teilo Towers. In noticing works of defence, he mentioned the Military Canal, which, in the opi. nion of military melt, was good for nothing, and deprecated the building of houses at a great ex. Knee fur Store-keepers at Weedenbeck. Mr.. A. COOPER, in answer to the Honoura. We Gentleman, explained the nature of contin gencies and current services, and defended the es timates. The Resolutions were read and agreed to.— The other Orders of dm Day were then drspused er, and at Eleven **Clock. the Houle adjourned-. LONDON GAZETTE EXTRAORDINARY. [CONSINUSII ill* Ova rAlnlit OS YESTSROAT.] . • • • No. IV.. Morose Hassel, Feb. 1, 1810. Sta l er'though yOur- Eaceßetsey is fully ac. (platted, with the result of yesterday's action be tween the reserve and the 'ltem'', I should not du justice to the conduct of the troops under my euinniand, did Loot point out to your Encelleney the partlcelars of an adtiost,.ln whichthho'Coantge ' : and - cueltiesser .British *Waters 'were perhaps -never more conspicuously displayed. Soon after your Excellency had given me, hi struetions for forcing the passage of the•rivilr do Pete, I found an intelligent guide, wholiro inked,. at the forfeiture of his own life, to kad 'My brigade , aerobs the river, at leis than half the distenee• of the original • Intended route, but the road so diflicuk, it would be neeestary to pass it.: in the ilayanne ; as, theseforei no time.was to be lost, I. decided upon. au , immediate attacks eti. l couraged the more to 'this plan, as there was a di- • rersion.against the enemy, who at this time Will engaged with another division of the :rug, in an opposite direetiun. The brigade wail in motion about four o'clock ; Major Henderson, at.the bead of the Royal York Rankers Major Edden, with the grenadier bath lion, was directed to make a diversioe to the left, • and to avail himself of any opportunity that might ' offer to force the bridge, agretabJe to . your Excel lency's intention. The detachment of artillery, ordered to take advantage *of apy favourable sir. cunistatice that might occur, myself and staff ac companied the Royal York Rangers ; wo pro:. seeded to the banks of the- river'without meeting any resistance from the enemy but a few random shot and shells. The pass of the river de' la'Pere was by stature most difficult, and was made still more so by abbatis lined with troops, and every{ possible obstruction thrown in our way. •Here it was the euemy first opened their fire of musketry ; 1 but our brave troops, superior to all difficulties, soon forced this passage. Having passed the riveri_ we continued our march •for. about 100 yards through rugged rocks and bushes l when the front companies branched off into tide%) columns, rapid. 1 7.-abctlttling tltelie4Lint, throe • loathe!. cimps. flies reserving their • flee till Miorgalci& lima same,' the remainder. firing to their fleas on the enemy, but still following the van ; as we approached tliel summit of the height, the ascent became more dif. fiend, and about 500 of the enemy's best troop's' poured down onus a most destructive fire., Major Handvson, with the three companies who first aseenACl the heights, foetid the enemy posted behind abbatis anti stockaded redoubts. This intrepid officer did not return the fire of the enemy till within about twenty.tive yards distance, and immediately closed with them, followed by the root of the regiment, and iu a few minutes com pletely, routed them ' • it was about one • hour and a half from our being first engaged with the enriny, after the passage of the river, to their complete dispersion, during which time it was impossiltie fur troops to chew more cool mid undaunted mintage, than was exhibited upon that occasion by that gal lant regt. the Royal York Rangari, ttrevery indi vidual of which I feel highly-indebted for the suc cess of the day ; and as your Fact:Miley was so eye.-wiluesi to the difficulties they surtneunted, 1 steed not say more upon the subject; and • lien all hehavod well, it would be invidiusio to distinguish oatti t;ulacinisit. biajur Ilonjerbon 0.a3 N ouudutt • • 7 4.* • -r-~w • a _ _a and disabled from further service, 'by a bail j o breatt, in close contact with the eiemy. B ei ' myself afterwards disabled, the comma n d wo : 14 ( have devolved on that gallant uffi.'er,Ca.pt.%& h a d ho not, with Capt. Darling, a l so beau woe; ed about the same time. I understand, by 1 1 4 - 7 actions of. Captains Sutherland and. M at h ew " the regiment was formed and prepared to ad o in the morning, to carry into effect your Ea ceßea. cy's plan of forcing the passes of the bridge, t ot hi success of which you were an eye-witeess. T o t h e Stuff of my brigade I feel much debt ed. Brigade-Major Braretun was amoa gst foremost in the attack, and continued w i th all l oo t. Capt. Gray, Assistaat-Qeartet Barrack-Master-General, was alsw ;hest mini, employed, till disabled by a wowed AM th e di we ' of the action. I have sincerely to regret the loft . at 'nay b r officers anti soldiers, killed and wounded; th e turn of which, as far as can at preseut broiled I halo the honour to enclose. 7 I have the honour to he, k,e, • (Sigurd) C. WAL4, To 11.1estt...Geo. Sri Geo. Beckwith, K.B. &Ace. - I: • • " 6 t tohttina the Tqirtatti of Capituiation:4( Which the follow log are tho principal articles;_ The ttrrison of the park, and its dependencie s , parsec in two divisiow, and corsisting of s ev era l ink, on the ft of the river S. Louis shall' march at o'clock on the Bth irmant, by the bridge of N oe f e „. 14 gr o und their arras on the lines of St. Cludes Ip,u e . s e right shall march oat by Port Bellair, aid i i itho ii ; 0 1 arms on the glacis, all with the hopuurs of.icar. The cers to retain their swords and priCate bagga4e, • They. diers their baggage. They will march down to or ne gr o, town - of Bakseierre, to be embarked on boaill t he N o propriated to receive them; and they are to brachia ret h pi tsoners of war, to be seo to England until reAulady changed. Fort Itichepaase to be delivered up immediatriy afterlif e Articles are signed; and the fort Meer 'd'Fpre a s loos British troops shall be sent to take possession thereof. All public and warlike stores to he regularly sewers! f ry and delivered over to the Commissaries, to be nanfeilys: Commauders-in-Chief. Four months will be'illowed the Preach Admiolittedeck settle their accounts. • Six months, where neCemary, will he allowed far *IQ, officers holding property in this colony to settle theiisrle s i +Mate!, provided they conduct themselves in a pmperau. ner • but they will be expected at the cspiratioo efThisjii rind to proceed to Zugland at their ono ex pence.. Perfect security is given to all Colonists, in respect tot* persons and prverties. All freedom grantei by the French Government tom* previous to this capitulation, will be held maid, provided* *ball in a* ruse injure priyate prupert,. The officer having charge of the Captaia-Geoeml p ha e, dispatches to the French Government. shall either go it tis -ship of war that 'conveys the dispatches from the BM* Commanders, or a sepurate verse} will be sleet *WM,. the British Admiral may find convenient.. The eilleirst le b e employed shall however tie cossidesmfas a primers( mi autil'regularly exchanged. • .efihtilional Articles by the British Gormatissisaus. ' Art. I. Ali persons whatever, lag to reside hew* daloupe, shaU take the oaths of lame to his Mtn* Majesty within one mouth from thin .- • Art. IV. As soon as the rescue capltabition shall law been ratified, the British troops of the first 'division shall 90 , copy the bridge of the Ravine aux Ecrivlces, and thole 4 the sbcoud division, the commanding battery at post 11.11eit.. , POLIC E. , , • . U, . ow-sTnerr.—Yesterday t 'Thema liatcler, and. Anne, his wife, were brolgilt to tha.rbes Office, charged with being concerned IN incites open the house of Lady Stuart, in Richmond Park, on the night of the 14th . or February last, ud stealing property to the amount of 4001. Tttry' were committed for trial: .- • ",--( . "". , ' John Stocker' aiid John Brown, t i r o . about 14 years'nf age,. were charted wit 07. lug the shop-window of 'Mr.. Acres,, a . . in Iligh-street, Kensington, and steiliatthitm, 3 ./sum three gold seals and other articles... Alt .. • I were committed for forth.vr esinninstion. ....,, The Copenhagsn Gazelle, of the 13th, Maisie. an article from Mr. Forbes, the AmcriassCainS l / 4 at this - port, contradicting a statement inthar4o.k. papeo t °this baying been . tlriren,ont dna& burgh by.Abelsbabiiants,- and -compelledto take' 'refuge in Westphalia. Ile represents Itiarself la have gone to Copenhagen at thosolicltatioa skis Americans, whose property i$ under tequestratieo!' In Sleswig and Holstein ; that bit mission wutbea completed, aud.tbat be should return UM in s' few days. • '.. Co R 0 N Elea was NOW iST..-:arellifriidir n'efireks" • • an inquest held-at tbc lisusqot OW, Grange Inn,. .Cartry.street, befUra' Ante !Y' ', GELS, Esq. Coroner for Weitminster, 'of Hannah, the wife of. Alertaider Astfits - !I" lust her life in the fire in Ilialles.street,tfiresta w ; ket, on Thuritlay morning. ; The deceased was turned. of 60 yanes„"tilfir: she had been upwards 'of 19 years inareitso l "!- die, who was bier trecand , husband Oliey . iretel ol native of the NOth of Sentlaint;.• IletcSt st 'S as a Master.tinnum, for several years after he"' married, brit failing in lorisiness,',lrOilrfif PA O."' I ncyruan, until by a sudden Stroke of afilittirot frog the hand of Providence, •he teas ainiost,'OP' 4l4 of all means of subsistence, - and was unOet l necessity of receiving ,parochial relief frori.,o*, workhouse of St. Clement's. hokever, bcftkre the - nielancholy !gelded _place, he received the must tsgreeible 04'1' geri ce p . Ant 'he - law for the recovery . of Ike oe9;009111 brought to a favourable w°lll,' shortly be pia - into porisitssian. Oisi ssa money. Ile is suppostitto-"be !sorted* There was no accoun't whatellei, its lire originated"; there was- up fine at uturim. o .7 candles at the-time, nor for • some time'rg and it is stippled that • the fire oh Juntal. There" are' tbrie others missing, be"' this woman's husband ; among the 'slumber' tht l '. • is one . pool woman, uhri soppoited hers elf her daughter with the money she ha/ saved ff. ; living many years in the scrvicii ore nu. . 6i and had 200 1 . to begin some Small Wsist's*"'" A " The gist escaped, but the mother is not yet u' and the money' (the greater' part of 0 1 1 1 ‘ 1 ' gold) is entirely 105 t.... ~~ At the bland of Tette' Thomas Calogan, 'Es+ . Lately, Mrs. Cattternsa L `la., late of Witham, kovitx. A few da f t tioce, in leart4A4 il'arlomml at4 at tlw advanced age of 107 - HEAL r..citt the, 18th of Fel _62 • • ...mei. E ese - )*I)UN t Po.)1t1‘11011.1%1/. 1.0%1444.T. tirltUiMAN 3 .• IP PP r NU NEW 310- 11 du 6 • 0 4" g1641"1 refs} 7 he ) npir.i K hEch !tope Cid • 1,111.* Arts C [ ,.,t sr, Loth . .The r. ,041 •1 Fit i . e.," 1 •,* fratori Pbct In' 0 lI ~Cdtii lii I Ti: t WI I R p the! too at s. II iian she