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j; • I lion on purpose to gratify her. But why should a Minister of State go to an ally- and state all this, except he thought it would form the ground work o f !WSW proceedings? The Noble Earl Lad allowed that on pansy might take a part, if the corms-'rut authorities sere with them ; but what were the competent authorities but the G iicriimeti• itaelf ? .That was the grievance, and did the Noble Lord expect the grievance would complain I,r itself? He hoped this circoingauce of the array would act as a warning to deapots, to teach ' them that they could not rest on the sawri and bayonet, without the risk of that power turentig against th, twelve*. The Noble Lord says, it is not the coliese which this country ntirstn-d ; but sight not King John (to go back to Ala.tiia Charts) sow , e s well as Ferninand, that it wa- mgvinst his will; and was it not in effect dome by force ? But that with respect to the Foreign Power* was o n ground of iaterfereisce ; the inspire goes wit- the h`jsons winch the despots did assigo, and chooses to vamp) one which they had not thou a ht case of Sicily, in which, if correct, the Noble Lord hsd stattul wei a great injustice on the part of Naples. But had he not stink some of the facts? What was the Coustitutiou of Sicily at that time ? It was the Colutttution of the King, in whom was sated all the authority of that Lonatitntrust. What was the situation of the King when he came from Sicily to Naples? lie came with a Constitution so , which he had *worts (slot that he (Lord Holland) laid mach street on that), which had Ist•en framed under the senction, cud with the concurrence of this country, awl Lis first set was to suppress that Cons itutiun, Where was the Noble Earl's sym pathy for the Sicilians then ? lie littered to complaint, he made tio remonstrance, but all was reserved till the people of N odes did something which the people of Sicily distil proved. This ors certainly a strange grouiid tier interference for oil our, but more par tierlotly for an Englishman, who piqued hituseif on his ottechment to the priticiples of liberty. The Noble E hail then touched upon the Car b wort, but he had dropt the origin of them ; yet kit thought secret soci.ties were not a soffit:tent reason to tcanaut foreign iitterference, but if those societies were too confined to the coun try in which the revolution happens, then it pas otherwise. The Noble Earl had all through con founded that which gave a right of forcible in terference, and that which gave only a right of re monstrance ; but if the people of Naples had done any thing which was offensive to Austria, the latter had never notified it to.her, and so far she was a violator orall public law. The Noble Earl lied said there was a great difference between Spain a n d Nople., yet if he (Lord Holland) were nut inisin fortnetione Spanish Revolution took place long be fore that of Naples, hut by similar Weans. The Pretest int religion was disseminated by secret correspondence, and was at first, and still is, one of the groituds of complaint against it in Roman Catholic countries. But could the Spanish Convt itu sion,with all its defects, be composed to that which preceded it? Was there a man to England so dead to liberty that lie could Janke the competition? The NOble Earl had charged it against the Neapolitans that they were ignorant of the Spanish Constitution. which they ha'd adopted; but what if they were ? They took the only free Constitution witch they knew bad been adopted and approved of by a pro life of the vim- religion as thermrelves. Russia might say that the Spanish Constitution was one with which she could not maintain the relations of peace and amity, though that was not now the complaint; it was not paid there was too much de mocracy in it, but the objection was to the anode in which it had been obtained. That was it strange objection; but in whore mouth was it put ? Why, of one who ihcended the Throne vacated by the murder of his father. With what face, then. could they talk about their love fur any constitution, and how could they expect sny crwdence utiles% inatilind were such brutes its they would make them ? The mode iii which the contaitution was obtained waa objected to by one who succeeded a father murdered—justifiii bly, lie %Amid allow, to which, if he were not a and he (Lord Holland) believed him to be sincere. But he would ask, 'would' declaration from this country, such as she ought to have made, have had 'no effect on Austria or Naples? It was well known that one great part of the ways rind means of Austria was, that she carried Greet Britain in her pocket ; that was the language, though not to be found in documents. Ile fancied he could see the German smile which would mantle on the face of ' Prince Metteroicli whilst reading the incompre ' hensible paper on the table, but from which he would by some chemical process extract the conclusion, that it did not contain the real seers timent• of the British Government. The notion that Great Britrio was a conniver at the up pression of Naples, tool that she would ope.ate as a check to the territorial aggrasatlisemeut of Aus tria, was all to the advantage of that culinary, whore moral strength consisted iu being iu eih , Ptce with this country. - The policy which his Majesty's Ministers had adopted, even if only eroativonee, Veal nut roily directly Contrary 10 our ancient system, but to the sentiments of the Noble 'Lord himself, as mirrored nt the close of the last war in that liaose. He would not go into the great question which agitated the two great parties of %Viiig and Tory ins the last century, as to whe ther this country oing;it to interfere in continental politics: that was on longer a questions ; the die was east, and we could now only maintain our dig nity and independence by exercising au influence on the Continent of Europe. There were but two mesas by which that influence could be oc quired (God forbid that he should disparage the army of Englund and the Noble Duke oppositt), but yet he mnat respoat there were but two means— money sod character; he knew no other. Charac ter and influence had always sluice the reign of Henry VIII. and Elizabeth been the ground woi k of all the influence which we had on the Con- Intent of Europe. It was by seizing the spirit of the tunes, and holding o urse lve s u p its th e liod- Mark that we mainisitied our influence. Quern Elizabeth, with that rinickness of perception which, outwithstunding all her defects, made her the greatest woman that ever interfered with political effsits, made herself eminent by placing her • self at the head of the Protestant interest in Ess• rope. She had, perhaps, no partiality for tt e religious opinions of the Protestants, but she per ceived the spirit of the times, and acted accordingly. The contrary policy was pursued by the Stuart family, and Enigletitl, instead •f being respected, became the laughing-stock of Europe. The reli gious spirit had been socceede.l by the spirit of political improvement, a spirit winch should be guided, 114 checked. It was not the superior bravery of the French ntinieg, but the popularity of their cause, that led to their first groat cur. cesres; but when the Usurper (to follow the Noble Earl's phraseology) chose to interfere with the in dependence of Spain, and became unpopnl it in con sequence of that atrocious proceeding. the tide isn mediately ran the other way. When that great man (fur flow he was in misfortune he would cull hint so) .as he truly thought lam, made that ainempt, there was not a !non in England but felt indignation, and the Noble Lord himself admitted that then opinion look a Writ. and he attributes it to optnion that the power of Napoleon was overturned. With that admission would he say that the popular opinion of Europe, which had-such an effect in time of war, has no effect during peace ? Did he mean to say it was nothing when war occurred (for occur it would), that we went into it with the common feel ing and opinion of Europe in out favour ? We had by remonstrance an opportunity of placing ourselves at the head of popular opinion. The Carbonan i, whose hotter history the Noble Earl had only looked at, were • the children of those secret societies, established in Germany for the purpose of shaking off the yoke of France, and establishing a system of liberty instead, and to that they were encouraged by every Government in Europe, with the exception of Austria. lie must do her the justice to say, that she never promised any thing liberal, and certainly she hind never performed any thing of the kind. ‘Ve had now taken good care to show to the people of Europe, that which we hail al ready shewu to the people of Spain (whose liberty was fostered by ourselves). we had taken rare to spew that we did not take too much interest in their calamity. He would not say it tea/ the coo. ; but certainly it was generally supposed on the Continent that this country was one of the great causes which prevented all the attempts made by other nations at political improvement. Could tiny man who knew any thing of the pro• ireedings of Austria, or who, lor n 1110111 CW,, re flected on the whole proceeding, doubt for not in slant iltit such was the view taken of onr conduct lit this case? There could not for a moment:exist any other opinion than that the hostility of Austria towards Naples hid been excited by the apple- !tension of the spreading of those principles try which the revolution had been brought abontio that country, into the neighbouring States.. which it heW at present in subjection. Aml be, fin his own part, had no hesitation in avowing Ida feeling on the subject, Colt tile's t h ey crook! give the people of Italy free won...emotive constitution..., or considerably amended the snootier in which they administered it, he would not give five years' pur chase for their authority over it. But what a prints diple was that to admit, that in proportion to the misrule and oppression of any Government at lie, it was enititled to interfere in !setting doom as. attempts at improvement in the internal *dens nistration of thin: athuirs of othernstious? What ever might be the difference of opinion, whatever the declarations, whatever the votes or their Lord ships, be was confident there was not L Matt ill the lobby of that Monte, wins, l a yi ng hi s hood on hi s heart, would not express Ins ailiorreiree of this in terference. Let the danger light where it might, every mart who wished to exertlise influence or use the power winch h e ptoores44.l.• te.eheek••the spirit of tlPC'tillnell, In to thwart the' progrets of a peo ple towards the improvement of their condition, he heisrtity prayed lie might—he sincerely trusted be would linnielf cverwheluted in the conflict. Lord ELI. 111.; BOROUGH said that great as was his respect• and -veneration for the talents and ekperi voice of the Noble Earl who made the motrusi, a n d the Noble Berner who had just .-at thorn, •yet' look ing at the whole or the 'circtilitstances of this case, lie could not help coming ref a Jetv different cons 1111 &1111ta.;• • • party-- Lord Hmutowac said he considered such lan guage could hardly be justified against any Sove reign, whether we were at war or in peace with him. Lord HOLLAND said, the guilt of • Build Personage was in itself itn extreme indecency. He considered it a had augury, when a Peer of Parlia ment should rise to call him to order for alluding to it ; of this be was sure, that if by it temporising policy in this country, the Sovereigns of the North were suffered to pursue their design., it would soon beceme part of the orders of the House that such suspicions should aunt be expressed. As tt was displeasing to the President of the Council, he would not again mention auspicious; but of this lie was sure, that he ascended the throne alter tie murder of his father, from that throne whence not one of the Czars, since Peter the Great, had descended, without violence to his person. Thus shine why had no conftitutiou but the will of one man, complained of the manner in which sine bad been obtained so recently by the Ne lipolitans. What reasons of vicinity hail the Itic , ians or Pruasiaus which we had not ? The reasons given were not that or the Noble Lord, hut because the Constitution was obtained by force. It might be against the orders of the House rn expreff the indignation %%jib which he was tilled, hint it was a (titling which would pervade the breast , if every Em 4 iisinu sii country. Another ground on fehh.T. aid' proceedings were suspicious, they were the couuterport of those which took place ln•fore the commencement of the nose teliniitous war in which England was ever .o .iged. Before the war with revolutionary kue:!ii.e,. there was the same dread of secret -4 even a iitlicultius coincidence that "entry notleeeist a reduction, with great profs- sous of peace; yet it ended in this country be coming a printipal is-war to which we had not the atichirity at first' . ilsclare ourselves a party. Naples, he was/mere, was of tlie 'panic curse. *mote in the Knit of Europe as re:trulutionary Femme, but the little policy pursued by our 'Mi nisters towards Naples was a cub of the same litter. He balk/red that nothittg.could save Eu rope froes• war, and Englaiid from beings patty. rxeopt•tite expreaaion of the opinion of that Move slid the country. Tile Noble Lord sajs, of the Noble Earl or the Noble Baron. He [bought - that it was not so much the interest of Kings as of Nations to protest against revol u t ions ! Kings about by the military ; because the etic teis of such nn enterprise would tead to encourage. them iu similar attempts at change whenever it 1 • suited their own particular views or convenience. It w'is the interest of nlriiva to protest again t such revolutions, herause there was id) safety for liberty or promeefinit for any Constitti. non from similar cont . ukoms, wherever the mili tary assumed the right of acting ill thew without the previously expre.,wil opihion of the li e ii i „„ g h t i t war y the hottoden duly of his Ilajes ty's Ministers to p-olest :toy revolu ion ' Wrought about in aittli a rii.rtimr, and Iry such mesas as that of Natmlm'r Write!' rliCemcd nuvil e F 4- Il ' ential ly front that mif S i etio. The Noble Ertl .Mad stated it to be a coattimustiomi of the former Government, but he begged ' , awe to refer their Lonl-rhips to the circitinsinuees erf !lie change which hail been brought uhiout. Anil when he refl cted nu the coincidence of the return from Sicily of the route', with the time of the revolution, owl his afterwards becoming the head of the Government, lie could not divest himself of the,opititora that the abject of the revolution' was time •dethr:miiertment of she reigning King. With respect to the Alliance of the Continental Sovereign., lie agreed with the Noble Earl, and would go along writ Limn in re po-At:tattoo of the principle on which it oats fom med ; what lie saw most detestable in that priociple was this, that it was opposed to the msxion that Govern ments were formed for the beuellt of the governed. The Circular of our Government required from that of A u•trit en assurance that the attack WI apes was nut intended for the purpose of any territorial aggrarillosement, but merely as a measure of seltdefenee agatosil the inflornee of the example upon neighbouring Slates. Tins be thodglil st sufficient remonstrance on the part of our G.versiment against any improper ambition. But the set of malcuti. tents which brought about that revolutiou, were united in principle wills the malcontents of every country um Ernope, who were hostile to all regular goverumenti it therefore was competent to a neiglihoto lag rower to object to the go. vertinietit remaiuing in the bands of that sett. There wire only two course' which Ibis country could pnrgie; that of silent neutrality, ur of rensuosiranc.. backtil by war. If t'cerr were on the part of this country any dispositi to war, motleys it poseeesed the means also, a remonstrance would be of no avail; sad if we passesiod the means a ill,. out the disposition to go to war, remonstrance would be equally useless. The Noble Baron might imen a minim. 'leaner strung es winds could maks might produce the most powerful composition that literature could relit. bit, but lus remonstrance, unless he wrote with the sword, would prove of no avail. The Noble Lord enlarged upon this topic, enforcing it by lite knowledge *lnch the conti nental tioverninetits must have, of lime want of disposition on the part of this country, and of the omit of means and resources on five gait of its Govirnment to sustain • war, particularly in the reduced state of it. naval and other establishments since the peace, which, by removing flout their mind' ell Disprelivosions of a war, would incline 'him to trial lightly :say remonstrance against their fixed re. solve. • mid concluded that the less we sold upon lilt sob ject th e better, for remonoratice only exposed the weak. mess of a party oho *awed power to enforce it. Lord CA ITHOIt l'E 11 gist the Circular of one Gavern remit any Wee but satisfactory. Ile complained of it both for what it implied amid *hat it omitted. Ile could not but feel that there had been • considerable deficiency on the part of the Noble Secretaey who drew up that piper, is asserting those principles which should it all limes men .hWe the interference oltiene tuition in the affairs of 11130011, r. -There bad been a deficiency in surserting those principles !better which the treaties entered tuft, at the effuse of the Isle war had been concluded—treaties which hum their mint !king cootracted with constitutional Govenimeuts, there exited no power to guarantee the Upelilll,ll i f those prits tiples which he believed to have actuated the ram ties at the lime when they were concluded. The war tie nor pert bad hero maintained for the preservation of the invaluable blessings afforded by our happy Constitution, and •t Hs conclusiou the principles of that Constitution should have been partieulaily enforced is the treaties which were catered into. ant the disavowal in lime Circular of the iuterpretation put upon their treaties by the Allied Powers of the Confiners', proved that sufficient foresight had Mel been employed to prevent their being mistunletatood. The Noble Lord proceeded to condemn the conduct of Mi. - sisters in the affair of Naples as at variance with the prin.. ciples of our own Constitution, and violating the best feel tugs, of Englishmen. Earl GREY said he could nut but say with the Noble Ba tten near him, that his ilisertiefactiou was not at all lehtbed by the statement of the Noble Earl. He had said Om the only policy for this country to pursue was that of • strict itentrslity; but he had not ensile out that neutrality which the Noble Rerun on the same bench with himself Permed to have timid at. The Circular stated that flail Go vernment had expressed its disapprobation of the revolution in the fiat illatallet. Tu whom was that disapprobatiou communicated? To the States of Naples but to Ilse comleined Power., who were 'boot to commit an aggress %ion upon Npales; and the comtnuttication was made at a time when each a detlaration, if fl had any effect at all, must operate as an encooragentent to the execution of their designs. If the usual friendly intercoutse with one of the parties Itad ceased—if the friendly communication which before existed w•• suspetided—r Mae, from Ike Earl of Li eeerem o—wee that to maintain a strict nentrality The Noble Furl cheered at lite mention of a suspension of friendly intercourse; but he would ark the Noble Earl wile. then we he had, at this time, any accredited Minister at Naples? Not iiimly was that necessary to the continuance of such an intercourse, but it miss equally necessary that we shatild have here an accredited agesit of the Government of Naples. The Noble Earl had said that Count Ludolf was the accredited Neapolitan hliniater. But was it nut moo rime, that the pours' of Count Ludalt had beet' re. yoked ? Vas it wit notorious that re ince Cimitelll bail been niipoin;tal to succeed him ? Hut Prince Cimilelii hod beets refaced sus audience as the accredited illisistir of Naples. He would ask on what principle it Ise that this Government had refused to receive him, and errosinuell to transact hostile * with Could Liololf, whose rowers bad ceased ? Tihs omitting to renew the powers of wee Minister at Napier, with the refusal to receive the Primes Cimitelli ae at tiled agent, was au opera virelattait of neutrality. It might have been amicable to reniOnstrate with Naples un its conduct towsrili Sicily. He hail nut heard of VIII II a representation be• lug made; het a reprementation, rondetriliatory of the Re volution, hod been made, *Well was not iuserteil by the Allicel Powers in any of their politic papers which be had seen. He should have liked to see the tile. amorist In the Minister at Naples, remonstrating against the Revolution; he should have liked to see the me ttttt rim! of Lord Castlireaxli rejected by the Neapolitan Govern: West ; that would have been • novel spectacle. A repre rontstion mu Naples against the violence upon Sicily might have proved sonar sort of • justifies!' fur the proceedings Of Austria; but it had be, n attempted to justify nolo palely on the ground of danger to be apprehended. It hail been west! against the Revolution, that it was ffected by the military, in a different enemier from that of Spain, modeled by a sect of melcuotents, codsperating is principle with iiealcunteuts of a similar desuiptiou'caltrnd throughout Europe. lint to justify mi tatetferroce uu these groooda, guide stronger proof would be required thus.. the mere witerition of theft existence. In the same manner with respect mu the army. The Noble Lurd did ant deity, that the army most yield to the remonstrances and will of the rat ; lost be cottsplained that nodeclaratiam alf the national will hail preceded the operations of the army in this iust•nea. The situation of the cou•try rtusiered stub a thing impossi ble; mot hurl it been otherwise, if the people di elated upon ' the claim of an nunranee that terri'oriaraggrtuilise. meat was not the objets' (Atha raiiiemplaied aggression, and we are called upou not to prejudge the qneettion; lint when the Allied Powers were making preparation for attack, was not that the proper time for iuterfering is the 'nevem, iiso of such schemes: If they .neg:ected to do it then, and waited till after the •Itack,. when the plans of aggraeolt•enient were carried into effect, fur tear of prejudgmg, it would then be too late Mistiaters, however, were ready enough to prejudge the question between a King and Isis people, hut when the ease lay betwe.a natinit and hidings, they refrauted from int , (reciter for fe..r of prejudging.— This was a srcinieu of the twseralile policy by which this• ultimo was &mailed. He mum off. r a remark or two sos the observations of the Noble Earl in de ' fence of the aggreasiou. Ile said that the objet of the • revolution was a change of the existing G•eei iiment ; but he (Earl Grey) would coutewil that the Goveriosient was content:eel. The Prince had been placed at the bead of its administration in the some of the King. This substitution was not entirely slew ; it was one of our own saggestion, fur the preservation of the Consiitutiosi which tinder our auspices hail been established iii Sicily by Lord W. Bristiuck. The Noble Baron bad argued, that utiles% Ministers hail it in their power to em to war, reenonatiance would he vain and ineffectual. He was resity to admit. that in cases which called for nor i•turferesce with h.. rico Powers, we must be prepared to hack by Goer the ri presomiati )))) • which we might he called en to make. But it was fur those who boasted of the brilliant termination of. the loge war—(gaar, hear)—it was fur those who tauitrd iu its glorious results--( flenr)—it was for those who told as of the increasing prosperity of the country—(N ear)—to reply to this part of the Noble Barues's argument, to es , pinin their inability to resent insult, to ureoillit for this want of power to enfuice their remonstrance against unjust aggression. He hod been informed, since the commencement of the debate, that the Austrian army was advancing is three column, into the Neapolitan territory, and that the King hail issued a proclamation &sauteing the Parliament, and enjoining his sulijecta to receive the Austrians as friends sod allies— This was tin doubt the spoinamuus act of a King who, hay. hug born a prisoner among his own Subjects, no doubt enjoyed the most perfect freedom of artion amidst that friendly circle of Potentates to which he had been so press ingly invited. If ibis re port wire true, it proved the construction which hail loess put upon the Circular; it proved the estimation iii which that paper was heist; it was the natural result of the comae which had him puttied, it realm effect which might have been pr.dit l ed that pusillanimity of Slimmers whit Is hail d their contact throurli she whole of their p.shey, rireign and domest le. Their Lurd•hips woo 1.1 remember that when a Noble Ennui of his put a quest' to the Noble Earl respecting the Note of the A isstrian Government against the Spsoish revolu tion, the Noble Earl lanswe•rel that a restionst. :ince 'meld be made. Relying upon 111.41 answer nu further ob h))) ou the u!ij. et bad hero made by his Noble Friend; yet osi evil consequences load ensued, tin results had followed of that description which the Noble Baron seemed tip fear; nor had any act of hostility' been •se , erased lowaids the Spanish nation. Bill, said the Noble &ill, the Revolution of Naples was brought ahem by a mutinous soldiery, and it was iu.pussibte to have any communication with this Gen. 'vertimeist until that soldiery was punished He might perhaps be called to coder, as Ilia. Noble Prieod bad been, for making an allusiou to the Revolsiti )))) of Russia, for such is really was, when the present Emperor mice. ed.ol to the thrum, in conseepiessre of tile molder (the Is tin was not Inn harsh) of bis Sove.rigis and his Father, for which I.e slid sot blame him, as he tr•sted he had neillser pas tiriisated iu the art, nor opprured of the moan.; bui, if the principle of the Noble Earl were to he adopted, it would be quite as just, and not less lionosirable tor wit Sovereign to have them told by any goverisineol in Europe, that no intercoorse could be held with him as an independent power, because it ass impossible to sanction an accession to the throlle by int aus of violesice and blood Ltd. Ft tins femme of treatment, however, which had befit adopted its site two cases,it at emelt that there was &difference is tin. 1411(11.1ce to be applied to the case of a Knot from that of a penvie. He could nit accede to tile rernillineUit.ttion of the Noble Basuto to withdraw his motion, but in the present state 4.f the House, and the little disposition that evidently appeared to support it, be would not think of putting their Lordships to the trouble of a division. Lord ELLENBUROUGH explained, that he had nut meant to +ay that the country wanted the weans or the putter to gu to war, but that it wanted the duspusitiun ur the spi. if . The atittioa •as negative.] without a divigien, and the House attj.turtted at a QUARTER Barons &Lime u'CLocic. HOUSE OF COMMONS, 3roisnAv, FEBRUARY 19. Thr SPEAKER look the Chair at lialtpast Three &Clock. Mr. RUM BOLD pre•euird a Petition from crrtain Mrrchaut• and Stup•oworra, 111111$1.i 30111 of the Town o Great Yarmouth, against the Port of Hull Shipping Puur• Bate Bill. number of sews of load in the memo, enmities of the United Kingdosu employed in the growth ...Chops, nod • return of the qteaulity of hops grown during the last ludo-teen rear., disoingoishing each year.r—Oci:eicd. Mr. HUSK ISSON moved the third rending of the Malt polies Bill--Read the third time, nod peewit. Mr LUSHINGTON wassweel the third reading of the Trans• fcr of Greats Bill—Read the thirst time, and passed. GLASS DUTIES. Sir M. W. RIDLEY asked, wheiher it we, the intent ion of the Right How. Gentlemen opposite to retires the Grass Dui Ira Hill in its airs pri:l form' Mr. LUSHINGTON said, that the subject had bests wait time Hustler the rusisideratioet of the Board of Excise, sod of the Treasury, but that nu determination was sic yet come to with reference to it ; •s,liiiwever, the present deities would not expire lir fore the toil of July, there was still lie. pie (line fur the eunsiikration of the sehject. PORT OF HULL %HIPPING poolcs RATE BILL. Mr. SYKES said, that a. much utifroiireptiou aeriord :is privail on the subject of tide Bill, whirl; hid elven Petitions from many plat, a ag mist it, he would, in to g ive limy for the coo r!ction of that isllseouerpli..ss. $l. $.. Move, !hitt the B II he read a al rood time this ohs; Mr. HU:ail/4:+W% t 1 gill the is %holy ll.s. H..... Member hail given, ens a vv., mutioli. The R.ll , though .I.•crilwil as a I's lease 11:11, and It. *sue of a local natter, only street:us tile post ur 1110, In fart, insoles- a great public spuolloo, Hamel wba tier by a tire proerst Ili. y wonitl atti , topt to I. Pons's Bate MI a aprries of properly w ill CFI Lad bittori been estially exempt Goo. sort. a rate, nod fiat he a pa. lid sad local mitti.elf, Mal• ail of • general regulation. 14 the view whir la he took, and the opinion which he enter tained or tile Pour 1.. wa, Ilr Colt lii by no means tuuasil F. earls a o.raalo.. If t,,cv &polo rite of utriehlUer les f.rre ire le•y of sech a tax on that pirtienlar &script iota of 'tr o ts. r ly, w ruck tievy "ugh!, by relay porsible t.• protect, to what an rxteut might it not he etrit"fl '— The prlociide oil whirls it was too odrd isms, th it the poor to he rel , eviii by this saie, brimmed in a e.e..t measure to phippiur w..ieb rl5llll In Ise lost; lint if this riarqs'e writ In he acted on, *timid it not apply to every manufictioe, •uil to rerts its or place its the kwgssn. ? Irra• It to Ise ooppoud th a t she i5...1 of Bali could ever twee bessouve sob jes I to s puor ' s rale or 16,0110/. per wnntun , if it had nut carried on a large leph Ise 115 shipping, from oho It it had do-. rimed cu isideratile adrant.ier all* .1111 further objectival. awn ..I1 lii. Op I, slid 11 psi posed to I vy the rate hot only from that put of the shippine frent which a profit , was lint fsont all the elelppilig us the purl, Whether profitable or otherwise If they acre ilistroaed to supply the prineiple of the pour'• rate to property -.loth hail hithi ros bran pro 'coed fr. m it, if was better that it rhombi he 4 he by the ail .. .. ..r e.got4e erasure o f ern. rat regolu. 111111, Hum say a bule.triusl in tie way of • prorate hill, omit,. int only fit a pal t.esilar place. He thought the practice could sot be tors toilet', guarded againal of osiffering kills to 11.101 as private hills, which involved any general p. envy's.. He should therefore move that the Bill be read a second time this slay ale mounds. Mr SYKES said, that Pi titioos having hero pre•entid a/utast tbis Bill, whirls were evidently founded oa an err.. aeons coneeptodi of is aware, lee bad tbuitglit it advisable, to defer the aerosol mailing, to give time for its b. more clearly and getiernly understood, in which tam he was confiletil those erroa•ovs impressions would he rtnieverl. He woold, however, now proceed eoliotice the obstivatimut of the Right Huuuurable Grittitusan upon the pi itic.ple of th- Bilh— Mr. BARING rte., to a point of tinier ; the motion was to postpone the ace I readier. but Geplientiell went intu the discussion of the Bill itself: he did 'tut see how the Honer could avoid coming to a riecieion upon the Hill. Mr. CA I.CRAFT said, that as the Right 1401'A:entre malt opposite had beta allowed to proceed with comments hostile to the principle of the Bill, it was but fair that his lion. Friend should be 1.. aid in reply. Mr SYK said, that haeiat bran nnexpectrdly met with an anti n - linriii, I e tbnucht it necessary to make a few ob servations in answer to the remaika of the Right Hon. Gentleman. All stuck in trade in the town of fluff woo Chargeable to tbr pour's tate ; nu what principle ihsickie arse it that the shippiug of the port should be entitled In exemption > The principle of subjecting shipping to the operation of the Pour Laws was nut • new one. There litre still on Ilse statute book two Arts of Parliament of this nature passed in the hest reign. The shipping of the port of Strudel land was rated for the relief of the poor of the port, as was also the ahipping of Scarborough, of Whitby, and of Poole. Was it fair that hosiseholdere, and stock boßlera, soil property of every description, should be sub. jected to this rate, with a single exception its favour of shipping' Mr. F LEWIS frlt himself bound to oppose the elate. Mon of the poor 's rate to the shippitie, and he dal DO be. cause it was the acknowledged tendency of the Poor Law% to swallow sip all the property in the kingdom, and therefore it Was necr sssss y, by every possible mesas, to guard against their extension to any species of property not hitherto within their teach. There was no danerr so certain, so in. cohabit, tautess some remedy were shortly bit upon, as that Mr. GLADSTONE presented a similar Petition from the Poor Laws would, by degrees, swallow op every 'peens the Master and Brothers of the Trinity House of Kingston- of property that was liable to its operation : would they aqua-Hull. therefore admit the dangerous principle of extending their These Petitions were both laid upon the table. effects by a measure of a private nature, winch yoftwood TRURO ELECTION. to confine its operation to a particular place, bat which Mr. J. S. COCKS presented the Report of the Committee would establish • precedent fur similar measures in every u appointed to exordia, the Petition against the return fur other port the kingdom. He had no doubt the Hh. Member, in bringing forward this Bill, acted with th e he s t_ the borough or Truro, declaring M'illiarn Gusset, Eeq. to inteutions, an d with the hope of enlargtug the mi. as o f be duly elected, and that the Petition against the return isteutions, was nut frivolous nor vexati ~,, affordiug relief to ohmic nbjtets who stood so machin need of it ; but it was in the nature of th o se 'wasting, that Mr. S. 'WORTLEY presented a Petition from Selby, sod though kiln' and charitable iu their objects, they were must from another place lit Yorkshire, against the Port of Hull Shipping Poor's Rate Bill. destructive in their erects. They ever increased the evi's they were intended to relieve; for it was his firm convict mu AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS IN IRELAND. that if the Poor Laws had Never existed, the distress of th e Mr. FITZGIBBON presented a Petition from certain country would never have reached its present bright. The Frerholders of the County of Lineertek„ complaining of member said the um did not tut.. . duet any new prig. the depressed state of Agriculture in Ireland, amid playing cipie; but lie must say again, that it did. Th e pr i nc i p l e o f relief, th e p oor Laws was, that the pour should be maintained by Mr. STANDISH O'GRADY bore testimony to the re the parish an Wog as there was property in the parish even epectability or the Petitioners and the truth of their state. able for the purpose, but this Bill sought to levy a rate foe went*, and hoped the subject would shortly be takeu into the relief of the poor opine property which was not witfi• the consideration of the House. the perish. 'le concluded by •upporiing the antendruent. General PHIPPS presented a Petition from certain Mer- Mr. HUSK ISSON said, as he had no wish to do any chants and Ship Owners of tile Town of Scarborough thing which might have the effect of taking the Hon. against the Port of Hall Shipping Poor'. Rate BM. Member by sot prise, lie would not press his Amcitilment, Mr. LA M BTON presented a similar Petitiou from South but beg leave to withdraw it, although he mast say, That Shields. the observations he had hi aid, wi far Tom removing, Sir 11. PARN EI.L brought in the Holyhead Road Rill, confirmed his objection' to the principle of the Rtli. which ass read a first time, sod ordered to In read a second General GASCOVNE wanted to know, if Ihr Hon. Uwe on Friday next. Member would fix a slay when he would brine oil Ow lbs. Mr. JAM ES, iii coneeqnenee of the indisposition of an ,anion Or the Bill, in order that those who were opposed Hon. Member, a hose pieseure was desirable whenerer the t _ to might he weltered to meet it. uptown of which he bad given notice respecting the intro- The SPEAKER said, it was quite clear that the Bill had ducii" of the wilitai T 31 . the elect' for Carlisle was excited a considerable deg r ee of interest in the ronalrv, brought :leftward, postpone d that 10011011 tu Tuesday, the and it seemed to have called forth a large po r ti o n of Use at 27th instant. motion of massy Members of that House, it was therefore TIMBER TRADE. necessary to fix some convenient day fur the second read- Mr. THOMAS WILSON presented a Petitloo from the tort ,„ or d er that Members might SDI he taken by surprise. Merclitots of London engaged in the Russia trade, against I The fixing or the second reading for a partiessts. day, hive. SOY SitCP/11100 In the duties on timber. ever, by on means implied the necessity of its b. log teed a Mr. BOOTLE WILBRAHAM. presented a Pella** from that day, but only mean in the 'outlaw of the Orders, th t certain fileieliant• sod Ship Owners of Dover, against the I mist that day the question would be discussed, whether it Port of Holt Shipping !oar's Rate Bill. sh ou ld h e read or nut. Mr. BARING presented similar Petitions from Oitesebet- Th e Amendment aa• then withdraws, sad the second rough and from Nevreastk.upon-Tyne, which, with the for. I reacting fixed fur 'Tuesday Wm:light. ow, were ordered to Ile on the table. Mr. WHARTON obtained leave to bring to a Bill to Mr. BARING next permuted a Petition from certain t o mea d t h e G enera l & is o mer , Aee, Freeholders and other Inhabitant! of Basingstoke, praying CATHOLIC EMANCIPATION. for an inquiry into the dist f the country, and itito Rir JOHN NEWPORT said be rose to g:re notice fwe the tithe system, and for the alstilition of all sineeores his K, t it H.. .. the Member fur the ils.joree" useless places, sod the adoptioii of every possible measure or Dahlia (Mr. 11Suirkett), that he would, on Writ.osday, reirenclooeut soil economy. the 25ilt 1186/11111, SOUPY fur leave in bring its a Rill to npeal IRISH LINEN TRADE. the laws imposing disabilities on his Majesty's Rumen Ca• Sir H. PARNELL gave notice, that on Thursday next tbsolic subjects of Itihned. lie *mold move fur a CYISISIIIite to inquire into lb , stale of I CASE OF SAMUEL M EEK. the Linen Trade of - Ireland. i Mr. HG. BENNETT rose, posi.o tut to metier. to e.. 1 The MIMICS of the :I(einhires who were •barot from the tne siteut Wof the Howe to the cam of Semite! Meek, The ballot of the Tram Elution Committee, MI F. Way laws, is oooara id e G e ntleman theta entered into a PialetOrO , or ibe were called over, and the Members ordered to stiend a bal- case, the 1 articulate of which were some tine ago given to lut on Tuesday the 13th 3latelt next. to taw public:. It wee that of a publican, the 'renewal or Mr. ASHHURST preseused a Petition on dbe subject of whom berme wain so said to bare hems refined by the Mere. -oho' - - ' 00~ n. r. n~aanvnaa 4 ' We are not prepared - to go to war, lIU 1101 H !.. ti ;111;17:1;;;;11 . ;;)11dUei his gujesty'a se -- le'es - bt 7 fuTe - ii:e " a w eWee " We - ga — i'aeii — o — terr, - i i t .- wn . t . ild - ha - ;; " be " e - n - r •••• • • ' •• • "'III" on gilbJect • 1 waterer ifetllfe WWI It!. raid to base hewn refused the Maps- teßhes without site jest or reasonable Cl/IW. Ihe twin /04111, Le taken ;he declares he Means ueutrality, t er n tbrou‘ltuut the procettlilig , from that either empluyttil against die peupte. Mu th stress bail bee 'ma lir. C. CALVEItT waved for au acc o u n t of the total lime Ago preavai...l a retitioo to the House, stating bid ease, 1 .111111 - ‘_ • 4 , - •