The Statesman. — London, England, 1812-04-24 00:00:00

. • • 1923-. LONDON, FRIDAY, 181 i PR ICE 61D. - . . . . , A ,„, l awdlEasiziass. . - itit:-.113k; ROYAL ,, C 44 " .1. - GA "" s • former debates which had taken o . f:re during the moral dissolution. 11!nt the chargeS had been iii it advisable tocha i e m halal answer ." rra 0 i . s - - EVENING, April 24, Will present Session, he had thought Ig u p.. y• an d the calotnnies had been . ' • he rolloweett. . •° the nature of the motion which he meant to submit completely repelled. l'lv. , answers of the six most Ja. * ...* THE t tIMEDT OF ERRORS :to the House. Ile had accordingly altered it to a celebrated Catholic Universities of . Europe fri the. fro the mere consideratiott of this impor- several questions which had been su b m itt e d to them A ner objets. for tie O ro tau.. a Nett Grand Aielo-Dtarnalic i moti o n, apeendr, caned ; tent question. Ile trusted that when he railed upon in all these points, fully established the vile .false • THE SECRET MINE. rt ry the Eigh , h. __ () , m on d i v, Kin% : the 'lipase, not to decide upon the merits of the hood of the charges. These Univeraities SOiemtilf Ri l :: a l i d ul ,lnlo K . , :l l , l LOr n i tbiliday, IlleaAre f,r Mr Mil e 4 :WI: terse but to take the laws of disqualification of decided, and publicly declared, that Hie Pope had tp . 11 ,,, ,a,,. s it tano..—tan Wednesdayb Every Masi_ t: . 1,1 , ln i„ W i f e . three t. -fourt t h: of the people of Ireland into consi- no temporal power whatever in the dominions of l ean..—tni Taiir,diky, Jalies Cresar.-0a kredny. R i there ion, .e propos ition with which he should other Sovereigns—they declared that the Pope had awl le are a Wife. : couclude, would be acceded to. Ile trusted that no dispensing power to absolve Catholics, in any ' every Gentleman, who was of opinion that this mo- country, from the bond of their allegiance, or the meutous subject ought to he considered—that every obligations of their moral engagements upon oath one who thought that the claims of the Catholics towards the Protestants. When they replied to the shoulkbe ultimately conceded—who felt even that question as to the principle of keeping faith with the disabilities under which they laboured, ought to ; heretics, they accompanied their answer with an ! *peremptorily enforced *knot)! limitation---that i eaprening.ef horror, that any donbt could be en- I 4lawin?, lane who/deo*: that tfl‘zy 4-ttrlol be eilfOreed 4 tertaisesd upon the subject. Another srouid of ob i only with conditiens—in short, that every Membetr ,section. to the Catholics wa,s, that they dectined4 of every descriptioa, whatever maybe his views of l taking those tests which the State required.' Hut.. the subject, who was of opinion, that the question ! was not their refusal to take a test which they ',4hould be considered at all, would vote for his mo- i felt they could not take with a clear conscience, a lion. He was inclined to shape his motion in this I sufficient Security. for their faithful observance of form, from what had fallen in a former debate, par- ° say oaths which the State may prescribe as a seen ticularly from a Right lion. Gentleman opposite , rity, and *hay could take •without violating their (Mr. Canning), whose taleuts and character, and conscience ?---Ifere was a conclusive evidence of just estimation in that House, gave considerable their fidelity to their engagements. As to the ege weight to any this - that fell from him. These were neral charge against their loyalty, he should oppose ' -ondt this applioation to the wisdom sof Parliament, in fa. Your of the Roman Catholic claims, which he had before opposed ; be9tttsa he looked upon the toncei , sons they demanded, as.essential to the good of the State. [near, /war, hear!] Til l ey had, besides, the Petitions of the great - body of Protestant mer chants of Ireland, Wed of a large proportion of the Presbyterians in that country, in s u pp or t o f th e c.a.. tholic Petition. So that by coupling these petitions with that of the Catholics, he felt f u lly justified in stating, that the House .was to decid e th a t night upon the P.etition of the whole of the property, and morally Of. the whole population of that country. They had thee - the Petijion of Ireland submitted to their consideration. •Ffe sincerely congratulated the Protestant interest of that country for the meekness of their demeanour, for the wise. and true 111314 of respect which they manifested for the civil rights and liberties. of their . fellow subjects, and fat the warning voice aihli which they came .fhlwara`lit claim that these rights and civil. libei:tiev.should be ettended to the Chtholics, for the preservation of the British empire.--[Hear, hear, hear!}—Their application was peculiarly entitled to .atteatiott, be-' cause," if ill was to betide the greet, they would partake of the danger. Before that 'Mouse, %these fore, should determine to distiniss-the payee of i these petitioners, he would intreat of Gentlemen to conai. der' FBEEHOLD ItEsinv.mcm. BRIGHTON, SUSSEX. TO NOLO BY AUCTION, By Mr. ATTRER, At the old Ship Twvern, we TUESDA Y, May 12, 1131 I, at Twelve ti Clock, CAPITAL FILEMBOLD FAMILY ItPSI DENCE. Warms roleemmi, biting No. 21, ..n the Grand Parade. coonsamsdiag **Aleut viers' of the Pavilion, Lerof•••orrta.n—/MR/11. Amps, Sm. anti bon a anent distance D am Me Old ton-.. The Premises mental othelswkimement * rood Ititritea, ser vants' hall, bailer% puttee". iliery, wine cellar, and conve- ;arm Owes t on the grimed *tor, a spacious dining-rooartnd 1 water closet ;on Ow &Or etravrint• ~,,, no of large Seinen room, and be chamber; ; on the woad doer two chainklers ; mt the attic Moor two rooms mil two'gnoti garret', over % • The it hok . fitted up with materna, eloweti, forreptsmp, well supplied with esrellent water, and Aro well cutoff:tied for the ressletire of n Gentleman's family. The Premises to be viewed by applying' to Mn Pratt, Builder, No. 46, fligh-etreet sof whom farther Partieabirs may be had; salmi of Mr. Am-re, at his General Agency Other, North-street. Brighton; and of Mr. Winter, Builder, Lewes. T•IURSDAY NEXT WILL PRODUCE MORE RENE riciAt. CHANCES THAN WAS EVER INTRO. DUCE!) IN ANY torrmiltv IloatisßY and CO. solicit the attention of the Pahlic to the prt sent Scheme, 'uml hope to he bummed with their favours, as Web shall be did) attended to. Tickets and Shares are tellies( by Ilewthhv and Co. at their old-estahlislwd State Lottery Office, 26, Coruhill, in great variety of Num bear, antral the most reasonable terms, where all Prizes are immediate-la paid. the considerations that inclined him to change the form and nature of his motion. The House should bear in mind, that, in considering the subject of the Catholic claims, there were two countries whose situation. ought to influence their decision. He fact to sophistry—he should appeal to their conduet, and bid a ready refutation of the foul calumny in the established acknowledgment of their practical loyalty. This was the answer which he would give to such a charge. Let Gentlemen look to their that it was the petition of Ireland they were In fact to decide upon. Ireland present herself 'at their Bar to demand her rights. They. liad 'tikes from her her Parliament, and she came• ii pt tsnn to their.bar to plead the cause of three-fourths of her 4 would allow that the circumstances of Spain and Por tugal, the two nations our allies in the - Peninsula, might be influence by it in a very sensible degree. But the two nations whose situation should most have influence upon this vital discussion were Ire land and America. The nature of the question wan so momentous, that their folly in the decision of it might ruin, and their wisdom would save the Bri tish Empire. So firmly was he convinced of this, that he had no hesitation in saying, that in the vote they should pats won it, they would ar bitrate the 'destinies of England. By a wrong course they would destroy her mein anchor in the old world, and overturn .her power in the new world. If they should decide against his pro position, they would decide against three-fourths of 'the inhabitants •of Ireland, and one-fourth of the population of the United Kingdom. They would, by that vote, deprive that large and essen tial portion of the British Empire of their civil liberty and political rights, in short, every privilege `-‘t can be desirable or valued in a state of civil so- Thr Gtibtleinen who eaviff~ Journals, let them contemplate there the frequent and solemn expression of their approbation of the Catholics. What idea could they form from the rotes of thanks to the Catholics, hut that every such vote was an acquittal of the Catholics from the foul charge of disloyalty ? .When that House had adopted thus the language of approbation, it de clared the Catholics innocent; each vote of thanks was a recorded verdict of acquittal in favour of the Catholics, and a solemn judgment of guilt against the Parliament.—[llear, hear!]—lfere, in truth, they had the Parliament and the Penal Code on one side, and the Catholics, and their recorded inn° , cence on the other; the Parliament was thereby, in fact, convicted, and the Catholics absolved from guilt. But in addition to all this accumulation of proof of innocence, and this solemn verdict of ac quittal, where, he would ask, were the numerous Protestant Petitious, with which their table was to be weighed down against the claims of the Catholics ? Where were the Petitions which were to come in from all quarters upon this question --ma was that mass of thew► *hick was 110.1 population. The House should bear in mind, the vast importance .of Ireland to Great • Britain in a Knancial view. She yields ten millions in taxes, two :•millions in absentees, five millions in interest; in 'short, she contributed to the service of the Stan i every way above twenty millions. When they- tate& Ireland to such an amount, and she came in person/ to their har *ith a petition for concession, was it• r right that they should disraiqs her with a sentence of disqualification against three-fourths of her popula Mon,. and one fourth of the whole population of the !Jolted Kingdom ? If they should pursue so nngra cieus a course, he must say, that they would not act justly by Ireland. But it might be said that the re jection of these claims was a Court measure. Yes, but he,was not afraid of a Court measure. They " had a Court measure to contend against in 1782, and were not disheartened—they encountered it and pie it down. [Hear, hear!) In 1792, they had an , other Court measure to face. Twenty-live Only con , tended against that Court measure at first, yet in the short space-of bne year they succeeded. in removing `...j„firef.4 - measures therefore had no ter. e if NEXT THURSDAY AL RAWN L THK LOTTERY WILL BE D. WIFT and CO. the Contractors, respectfullY sabluit the following SCHEME of the pit ESEN T LOT TERY, to the inspeetion of the Public. They do not con ceive that anv rolumtni %p.m its iadinutages is ueemary, as they feel insured that its superiority will appe;ir ono fuir com parison with the Scheme or any farmer Lottery. Tickets and Shirrs are on Sole itt theirOffievn. No. 11. Poultry, 3Y. Chfifiltp MVPS, and 31, Aldgate High-some,. where, its the last Lottery. drann 'gist of January. No. 5,497, n Prize of £lO o.'o, nod Nu. 995, a Prise of £I,OA were both Sold iu Shares. 7 SCHEME. 1 Prize or - iiii:xxi7. - .. is .....C20.000 1 • If‘,ooo ••• 15.000 1 .... l 1 . % - 4.000 1 . I 4 8 8 • 400 10 ... . .c SOO 5t.....1.4-i. e......... • •WO 20 2.01.10 - - • be 70 109 114 2.0.10 .._ 13 .. . _ . . .rely. Jose . ...ti, ,to co.- Court _ _ ____ ___ concession should not be granted now, by now Meant I strew the floors of that House with accumulated , rors ray him 7 `the cause he soppertedi was swot the never— [hear, hear !]—but they could not bring prayers against granting the claims of the Catho- ' cause of the Irish Catholics only, but of the whole themselves to give utterance to that sentence be- tics? Where was the Petition of the City of people of the British Empire. It would be in yen eagle it was insufferable, abominable, and unima- Lordon, the great capital of the empire? Where to employ the Church to raise its voice against it, in ginable. Yet in the spirit of that sentence which I was the Petition from the. University of Dublin ? hurling the thunders of bigotry against the claims of they durst not utter, they would deprive three-fourths ! What bad become of all those multiplied applications a nation. If even the House were disposed to coatis IMPERIAL IMRLUMENT. of the population of Ireland of their civil rights and that were held out as likely to crowd the avenues, : nue for ever the present restrictions upon the Catho liberty, for adopting the religion which their con- I and besiege the walls of that House, and to lies, he would call upon them, at least, to go into HOUSE OF LORDS, Aran. 29. sciences approved of. Let the house but recollect mock the calamity of the ceuntry by calling upon I the Committee, and take the subject seriously WO. HORTIIWICK PEERAGE. that Ireland was the country of Catholic petitioners Parliament to defend us against the Pope and ' consideration, when, perhaps the discussion ofit might Their lairdshipt nittatabout three o'clock, in a Committee' • • • of Privileges, and beardayttheate at the Bar in support of the • —that their religion ens their property—that th e ' the Seven Sacraments? Where were all those . lead to some suggestion to mitigate its presiure.-- rlaimantto the Itorthwick Peerage. when the further consider- tenets of the Gospel Mere the right of all mankind numerous Petitions that wore to pray, that House' It was scarcely necessary for him to remind the ation was postponed to Tuesday next. Their Lordships then —that the revelation was the gift of God to man—lto continue the disqualificatiqiis against the Ca- House, how much national honour was concerned in adjourned. At half-past four o'clock, prayers being ever t t h e L or d given for the regulation of his conduct, and to be in- I tholic, and, under colour of seeking public secs - ! the adoption of this course—how-much the honour Chancellor seated on the Woolsack, and several Peers in their terpreted according to that understanding whichProvi- I city, to promote the ends of separation ? Where 'Of a certain quarter was interested in the solemn places, ; dance had bestowed on every individual of the human i were the Cler gy , who were to have raised their voices ' consideration of this question. He could not forget Mr. Kingston, from tbe India House, presented tbe annual , documents, agreeably to the orders of their Lordships. • race. The Irish Catholic had a right to appeal to his ' against this question, and uttered their disapploba- ' the period of 1789, when the subject of Regency an l d e s r: i SH w EFEly t tl e p p rese ort n o tsid a Pe , ti n tion n f l rcr the Merchants fits God according to his conscience, without a licence i firm of entertaining it iu a mauner that would have' was first contemplated—he could not forget what employed in the East ladle Trade, not d ot, pr built in Eitglanids, from the King ; but in the discharge of his duty here strikers the country to its very centre ? Where were : partiality, what affection, what kindness was shown should not be registered es the mpany's ships.-Ordered to on earth, and in the hope of salvation in Heaven , those Clergymen who were to have denounced the on that remarkable occasion to favour the claims of lie on the table. hereafter, Parliament, no more than the King, had fist step towards the concession of the Catholic ' that quarter—hecould not forget, with what cordials! ale Lushltigton, Sir J. Graham, and others, from the Com mons. brooght up the Irish Tobacco Excise Duty Dmahaik, not any right to interfere. If they did interfere, ' Claims as a direct attack upon the Constitution in 'it y these proofs of the attachment of the Irish legis leer Glut Unties Re g ulation, the Vauxhall -Brid g e Amendment, they would be guilty of tyranny. and the grossest Church and State; and instead of preaching the du -'. lature and people were then received. He could not PA . O'Nellfs Indesoni,v, the Gold Coin, the Highgate Arch- way Amendment, the Irish Malt Distillation, the Commons violation of their public duty . He would allow , ow- , of charity and peace, to inculcate the principles forget t ' • Idh 1 ties authority upon which the Catholics were Al ru etaben' Oaths, and a multitude of other Bills , chiefly p v l- ever, that if the exercise of religions worship should ;of religious intolerance, having their pulpits hung eneoura ed to look to that guider for protection and e, amounting to thirty-seven, all which were 'read the first ,in any degree affect the loyalty of the subject, or tend i round with the emblems and banners of Ecclesiastical :favour. Here, indeed, would have been a worthy time. Upon the reading of the Commons' Members Oath's Bill, the to weaken the obligation of allegiance, than the State I prostitution ?—[hear, hear !]—How different was . subject for gracious predelictions. ' He could not for- LORD (.t C o UAN t Clil e t i Oß intimated a an obr e ctioo, which oc- would have a right, as it would be its duty, to inter- i the conduct of the Protestant clergy upon this occa- get the frequent and authentic. intimations given to present e fi t n h m erest o r e "'re Partir i u m lttrly oefie r ra v a b s e il% a tbat I by hic tl i r l e shofere. But this intereference would not be justified ' sion ? Instead of demeaning themselves in this ex- ; keep alive the hopes and expectations of the Catho- Bill, persons might be allowed to vote for the election of a nit tee ground of religion, but of the disallegiance.— travagant manner, actuated by the gloomy spirit of•' lict, directing to what quarter to look for that pro- Seeker before they were duly sworn. In this case, however, there was no such ground for ' bigotry, they had sheen a degree of moderation, and 4 tection to their . interest, and that zeal in their cause lord KING moved, for an account of the sum of the Unkind- I ed Debt, during the last twelve years, specifying tile se to interference. They were all agreed unanimously as to , a feeling of decorum, which reflected the highest ere - .which were, in the fullness of time, to heal the divi amount of eack year's debt.-Ordered. the allegiance of the Irish Catholics. They were allac- ' dit upou their profession, and was strictly in unison ! sions of Ireland — to redress the g rievances of the IRISH DISTILLERIES. . . quainted with the contents of The. Gt a:cite—their own' with the sound seise manifested by the people at large.: Catholics—to hold out a light in the wilderness, to The Earl of I)ARNLEY, after calling the attention of their Lortl6hips to a mottos Which he had formerly made in the ore- Journal even testified, by the Totes they recorded tothe So far, therefore, from the table of the House being : guide a distressed nation to the condition of harmony ' P e ti T p sessi oset ou o , r v es e per Isethe Irish Distilleries, gave notice or his., valour and loyalty of the Irish people, and the Ito- ' borne down by the mass of Petitions against the Ca- ; by the spirit of conciliation and grace. He could as• w a as ft t y ed. r a t: l - l e i:a ez t al e ac ri ttgaztjif the Grain consumed, or raja n curable approbation of a. grateful Parliament.— tholics, from their Protestant fellow subjects, they i sure the House, that there was a strong feeling of dig viously wasted by the distillers in tat countr'y • since the :tea t ; [Hear, hear, h e ar n Yet with all this abundance of had the Petitions of thousands, and tens of thousands content, a lively sense of disappointment in Ireland th e former motion, to which he referred. ' r proof did they every day hear imputations thrown of the Protestants of England in their favour, lying , upon this subject. Bet the disapeeintment was not Earl BATHURST moved, that the Gold Coin Bill he read trove ' , coil(' time next Tuesday, and that their Lordships be slllll- out against the loyalty of the Catholics, which must : before them. These Petitioners felt no apprehension , new—it bed prevailed ever since the Union. When mooed act :o 4) rtlin x iy._.ord iere d . •, be -known to be false. These statements, so un- 'at the grant of the prayer o f t he Ca t ho l i cs —the y had i that measure was carried, the removal of the Catholic their i eetees then adjourned to to-morrow (this day). founded in fact, and so dishonest in principle, actu-; no objection to Irish Claims because thee felt themes ' disabilities was promised. It was by the promise of ally made the mischief upon which they fed. In 'be English objects. .But, besides all this, they bad: that removal that• the Union was gained. If the what other light could accusations be considered, i the Petition of the Protestants of Ireland, in favour ! expectation. of Catholic Emancipation had not been which represented the Irish Catholics as deficient in of the claims of their Catholic countrymen upon their i held out, ow Union could have been carried. As loyalty, as necessarily indisposed to any Prince of , table. At the head of the list of these Petitioners, he ! that. measures had taken away its Parliament from the House of Hanover? As if there was something found the name of Mr. feetouche. That Gentleman ! Ireland ; the Irish Catholics naturally looked - up to in the nature of their religious doctrines, or in the . had heretofore voted against concessions to the Catho- ! the Imperial Parliament to give them their qualifica constitution of them, utterly irreconcileable with , lics,and, now came forward in their behalf, not from a ' tion. This was the understanding that made the fidelity to their lawful Sovereign. But this was an feeling of party, or any ititissence of connexion, but; measure of Union succeed ; and the first conse. abortive calumny, which scarcely, reached the light ' because lie was convinced in his conscience that the; quance of that . Union, because the first principle of ere it died at its birth. Another charge against the: removal of the remaining disabilities from the Ca-! its supportot as `expected to be the relief of the great Catholics was, that the Pope had the power to die- 1 tholics would most essentially promote the good of . body of the Cetholics. He did not mean to contend solve the allegiance of subjects to their sovereigns— ' the State. The whole course and character of I that the letter °Seim measure justified such an ex that the Catholics were not bound by their religion that Gent leman ' s p ublic li f e, was a p led g e of the pectation, bet timprestionably the honest and ho to keep faith with persons of a different persuasion, integrity of `his motives and objects on this question. nourahle construltion of its spirit did most fully.— and that the Protestants and Catholics, in couse- ' He h a d in variabl y diveeted.hls efforts to whatever his If character be streneth, and the high name of Eng quence, could never amalgamate.. The monstrous; sound judgment pointed out to hi m , as likely to be land enabled her to surmount a.host of difficulties, absurdity of these charges was such, that it was un- : conducive to the public good, without suffering his in tie name, then,.of that honourable fame and ex necessary to enter into a refutation of them. These • conduct to be influenced by the smiles of the Court, abed character, he Called upon the House to attend , were demonArably false, from the utter impossibili- or the flattery of the populate. Ile bad uniformly to - the prayer of the Petitions on their tattle.; end to ty of their being true.. If they could be true, there consulted the best Interests of his country! Mike ie. , remove from the Catholics all the disabilities under would have remained no Christianity in Europe. Had ..dependent of the Crown and the people, and resol- ! which they seer...still labouring. if they should re. they been true, every : 4loe in Europe, where Chris- ved to maintain 'the integrity of hfs public lire and 1 fuse tile testitioners, they tvcrukl, In effect; repeal tianity hid beep pe efemeed, would have fallen into a character. to the last e he had given his swore to the Union. if,. by the vote of rejection, they • .• • . .• ~ , - , . -. ' - 4-!: 5. : ..., es . - . - :. •-. • . - . ' . , .. - •... • - . ' . - .•• . . - ;•- .- ....,: .. • , -..e e 3 -,. 7 ."'•; .r." •""' .!:-.°' - •.-!•,.. 1 0.4. 4;2 :.:" .' .- 's - . - - . Onlg 11.000 Ticket.. all different Number.. The whole to he dries mined in One My. the 90tb of THIS MONTH. April. HOUSE OF COMMONS'. Coltmel ODELL presented a Petition from the Roman Catho he iahabitants of the County and City of Limerick, pray iag repeal of the Penal lawn.—Read and ordered to lie on thetable: Sfr: DEN BOWES DALY presented a Petition from the Rosman Catholiet of the County of Galway, to the same effect.— /teed sod ordered to lie on, the table. On the tow ion or the CHAN CELLOR of fin- I Ii.CHEQUER, the names of the defaulters on the call of the love yesterday, were read ever, several of the absentees ordered to attend on Mandel, next, mad others encased. Mr. WI Ll' AM ShiltH presented a Petition from the Pro lestuut itissrutlog Ministers of London and Westminster, pray ing the repeal of the Penal Laws against all religious sects what- Meter. ri I iii:SHEIIIDAN also presented a Petition from the Roman j Catholics of the County of Wexford, which were sere ally read i and ordered so lie on the table, Sir JOHN NEWPORT postponed his motion for documents respecting May:a:mill College to this day stonni g :d. Mr. RANKLS brought up the Third Report of the Committee ea Sinecure Places, which was ordered to lw printed. CATHOLIC YU FAT lON. Mr. GRATTAN ) rising to call the attention of the Ileum to the matter of 'the numerous peti lions upon its table, observed, that, its con%equeuce of what had fatten from Ginatlemea is the tlitrefot :~.~: , -tttiNitairl./ T % .1 t eiti '- : 4 0 /* t . , • . . 4 0 1 44 '.... • • 4 _ • •?- I t4r.;k ' '''' ' .I_, i• ) •icrifi v it ‘.4 . , - ... 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