The Statesman. — London, England, 1810-03-15 00:00:00

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Two private Bills were bro4ght JanierG rahatii: • Loid MULGHAVE pimiento(' vitriol in Consequence of the Addriiss moved Melville, yclative.to, the number ) Ice. of ear l and the !Hire of transports. , rued. lii laced VIC Gone muer e due shall cititi— HOUSE OF COi[ltONß, Itasca 1, I or person or toney t on e pounds per Ilint stock I by Acts 'ars of his' The Message from the Lords, relatil Report of the Coto!'littee on the D►stii Scotland, presented tu,thc House in l' ordered to be taken into consideration or se'itighi. . A copy of a Letter from Sir Lite,►9 the Secretary at War, dated. I.oth July to the Medical Dr l ►artn►ent, on the tz ► , the Scheldt, was ordered to be laid House. r certain .bentures, &Om the o be re the said Parlia mt of the The various Reports of the Expiring I were• brought up and agreed to, and were ordered to be read a third tow row. The Cisrn Provision Bill was broug's• 'Leslejtagtuo, read u first time, :And urd read 11 iteutld litire to.morrow. • ill( also mewed the third teadiugof th hostitelerautis:ProveUtion Bill, a hick wi . • Cottilugly, and - passel • • • Mr. WHARTON presented an Aecotti .Produce of the Distillation of Spirits in r r-lands and Lowlands of Suotland.—Ordi on the taLle. Upon thetnittion of , Mr. ause r .it tai that Ilia House should to.morrow - road' f..;istuntittee upon the Free Pert atsd Trade Arts. Mr. MELLISII moved the Order i for the second reading of this Gas laighl • .• t Bill. Mr. GRENFELL objectedto (he i much •as it went to enable the Gent formed this Company to titostopottso •ast !1 which was by uo WWII new, bitt 'ariti' !iviedfitr many years, and . was now itt and iit various other mat towits. Ito concluded by moving that reading of the Bill should be postponed six mouths. • disked to briniropa at the rat of thing per tentuse f this &ttd Sills; ion. !et; and *hewing the therein, the Hods of iount dui coriputstriissthe 91h ?creel on the raid elesi-cd to stale the n respect of the prin to write their Names to indorse their names as taqy Mr. MARRYAT contended strongs. of the Bill, and stated, that at a time were excluded from the Continent, it blo that we should have resources withs for those-materials fur which we were ► to have recourse to' our enemies. • Mr. DAMN GIDDY admitted, capital would be required for lighting as London : he 64W Ito Very strong granting a charter to a Company for the whole at once, as he was satisfied might be conducted with advantage Companies or irtdiriduals tak jot distir lost as .this Company bad expended exikeriments, and as the invention wit , be of use, he should not withstand tl the Lill, provided it were so guarded chief could arise from it nctoni 'tierce terest of individuals ; provided also restricted to the lighting of London, to a Cerlain time, and that a short one Mr. LlATuuttsT was adverse 0 establishing a Company for such a It if it were put under certain restret not uhject to its going to a Cotomittei.. Mr. GILES objected to giving any monopoly of lighting London, or even f or mi n g any Corporatiost fur that purpose. Once made firm in their seats, they would draw to themselves the particular contracts. All that they ought to ask from l'arlivment, was,a power for the parishes to treat with them fur braking up the pavement, under which their tubes were to he laid. Sir JAMES ILA LL disliked any thing of the wilurtt of monopoly ; but he could discover but little of the overt Jar of nionoplly in the present ease. It was ohvions that some new mode of lighting Louden, wasexpedient ; the present mode of lighting was the worst possible. The system o f lenses had been introduced, to snake the scanty blaze of a single burner available; but it had turned out the most absurd of all schemes. The pers , m who devised it, probably had heard that lenses were of use In optics, but a lens in the street could do nu mote than it could in the opti. cian's hand, and that was to collect the light, and direct it to a focus. Iu looking•down one of our streets, we saw a range of burning spheres, but the grown' was dark ; nut a ray %vas directed there; the light was collected only to be pointed to our eyes. It was like the practice of the Ita. ban, is ltu pushed his Watson: directly in your (ace, and a hen he had dazzled you into blindness, drew his dagger. The object of the present Par liamentary a oplicati.,ll was chiefly - that the dual subscribers should not be bound fur more thAn their subscription. The invention was Meri. torious and useful, the application of the &intl. ple ingenious and rational, though the stork of, perhaps, ttic,mOst irtatitl4lll luau In IftdfitAl• heaps of the structure that would be flying about 'PLAY Kw , esp., —Je5 4 40` -- ; them. Ile found,a sum of 19,0001. in the ac. and in order that it might be purchased as cheap c ount, towards the building of an Artille r y Hos- as possible, to treat for it, nut as if he wanted it pital ; no estimate was made of the.probable ex. for Government, but rather fur a private faced. penze, which might be extended to IV sum before The price dem indtel was. 30,0001. furniture (esti. mated at . .50001.) inducted, without which they' this tedious work was completed. T here was *text would not sell the house at all. Tilis house was 50001. for a powder magazine at Dorchester, but accordingly taken on principles of economy. The Without any purpose or desigeation stated for it. - lie wished to be e informed, whether it was to area- I lloaourtftee Gentleman. defended on. the tame sure up the military: steu - es of the town, or to re- i grohnds the vureliase of the several other houses, and thee proceeded ,to vindicate the character of ceive the spare powder of the entira district ? lie hoped, that, w heater or nut, it would be kept at . Colonel Darcy, whom he denominated a teelcitts and able Otlicer. As to the ezpences at Claithatn, a safe distance from the town ; but.soool. v. as a l sum undeniably too largo for su idie a p ur p ose.— ie stated, that he thought no more money than lie next found under one sweeping head,' for 4 hat was at prevent granted would be necessary. i The 31,0001 i demanded for the storehoitse couldbuilding and taking laud at Woolwich, 134 , 0001 . the storehouse w*s absolutely [llearld This charge first met the eye in the I not be avoided ; i n . t itecebsary to turd machines and Carriages, erne modest form of 78,6391. and was gradually fated up to the aggregate which he stated. Ti e: , ployed in the sea service, from the sun. The reason of the vote fur a chapel of 16001. was; . e minor abuses there were of the same rank with the church was not capable of containing the civil that those which had been noticed at Chatham. Officers were known to make almost a - prop ert y of the e stablishment, and el course the chapel. was tie- • • w horses provided for the service ; and cessery. This, ho ever; while they the Methodists of the had them in actual emplofdrawing their coaches ?lace were very ready to •taka off their h ee ds if and curricies, refused to pay the tax demanded by eeeersaTY• the Ceminissionirs, un the plea that they were. the draught era King's horses. The Commissioners, however, send horses resisted the plea,„ and would allow nd mor e than a vice ; Of ' single horse. 011 a late lnquir9, it was Num! Britain; 161 that an ()Meer had in hiteservice no less than eine Portugal, or tau twi:diers. as the regular attendants. Of hk be sued, 1.11 h ou se, cooks, butlers, &c. and four hums. tillery her , Mr. ASHLEY COOPER laid, (eereis the ltowvver, table) that an °dicer, Oil', of suck rrectices, atiTW. 1 • , - 11 Y 1 ~ . . . . • ' 1 • . 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The SPEAKE 4 It put the question, that the Bill ,Me..CALCRAFT resumed ;be would not de. lin th eir be now 'read a second time, which was carried pain. the House any longer upon the circumstance, . . 1 , " in the affirmative, without 'aviivision. • ' but proceed. The next charge which he found g A l m the • Mr. HOWOUTIII gave notice of a motion far was a small one, it was true ; bu t he found nb cause for it, trifling as it might be thought ; 6501. Ne w o le , an Account of the Dividends paid to Foreigners , 11 to lie tin for the last three years, ending Decemhe' r 1809. for Ordnance expense s at Hu n g e rfori l . The next , 1 il A Member moved the Order of the Day for the was a charge for Barracks at Weilenbeek ; and Waterford reading of the Royal Ma rine Mutin y Bill. The here he must observe upon the general folly of ', 1 . r ea d a first Bill being read, that extravagance, which built sumptuous apart- n p b y . Si r , Mr. CALCRAFT gave notice, that after the clients fur men whose income could not exceed t . printing of 'the Clitthancle.•Estlmates, he' would 3001. ur 4001, a-year, which vyonld be fit for men oaf T apers : bring forward Smotion respecting Mr. Hunt. of as many thousands, giving them idle notions of . . by; Lord . , . . IiRDVANCIt. expenditure, and leading them into extravagance. & i mp s o r Mt. A. COOPER Moved the Ordnance Lei- He found en, account •of the Artillery Drivers, a . . : • mates as timial. corps 'of .between , 5 and 6000 men, with 6000 s ~ • Mr.CALCRAFT said,he was not seterited that. horses. , 'llis great and meet eitisettaleo b o dy was H •• . • . •the olt. tihkilaism 4 !• 7 bad. been so brief upon the of no possible i i s e i n the eettitrY, excepting, in 1 14. subject ; but he (Mr. Calcraft) must request the ease of i nvasion, t o move the artiller y from on e patience of the house, while he deviated from part of the country to another. lie did not find ive to the th e example which had been given, and 'went a the s um relative to them p rinted in the Estimates: ~; Ciliation in little more into detail. He fo - und, in loOking liver Those artillery horses were cantoned by five and , , 179 8 , was the papers which•he held in his hand, a reduction six hundred together in districts on the coast; yet a ia in Monday of 100,0001. from the last year's expense, and so these very districts the country was charged' with far as such a reduction could be proved to he real, 87,0001. for contract horses, to do the general Pepys to he was willing to allow the Hun. Gentleman due work ; while the drivers' hones were idle, total- • ly, relative . itroise. This reduction hail been in saltpetre and i tally idle, fat and sleek, and pampered till they ' , edition to those charges which were termed utsprovided, a would be unfit for even the tingle serries to - , ' before the phrase equivalent to Extraortlinuries in the coin.' which they wore designed. Ile knew that O. - t • mon accounts of the army; but when: he looked cars had an aversion to putting their bones to Laws Bills int,i those parts of the statement where catiqva. any work that sullied the glossiness of their skies, .. • I the Bills gum was most unjustifiable * and' unierriocable, •or dimmed the polish of their harness; but the ex. as v i gor o u s pence of the corps amounted hto te•enormous suns • le turner. t ic found the old spirit Still alive, and as ever ' • 'he found charged in 1809, .45861. for 'of 400,0001. while its services were only to be' 'in by Mr, 4 house for the Secretary, in Pall.taall ;,•be next useful at the moment of actual invasion (Hear, . . • ' ' •• dared to .be found for building for a similar purposes, .84061. I hear! fr om the Opposition] ;asif we coultthavo which, . ;with a nou-descript charge, which he 11 0 notice of invasions 110 t a moment to prepare ; , ' • he Custom- could not distiuctly trace, at that time, amounted or a , i iE the species of horses employed in the ar. vas read cc. to 11,0001. The expenditure in the Ordnance Office • tillery - were nut chat precise ene of which an al. • . itself u ass latolernble : +unlined up, it was not less i most unlimited number might be got at any, . . 'oast of the than 43,0061.• It might be alleged that part o il pressing moment in the Country : , .yet for . it the High- 'this expense had been sanctioned by liinrs,•lf (Mr.l, this amity distant, if it should ever arrive , the • . i 'kink to lie Cileraft) and his colleagues , while in (Alice; but ' country was -to be saddled with an intolerable 1 ' thiieiletriet far the house in• Pall Mall h ai l b een I expence, a permanent awl certain sixpence, to Pas resolved • Madre before they could have ally influence over it.. meet an event barely contingent. The number .. . olve hitt, a As ft etas, they tried to get rid of it, to throw it of the corps employed on foreign service 'must the Canada off, the hands of the nation to exchange, to sell be sin-ill, and no gruntid for maintaining on use- ' : ' s it ; and,' at the failure of all, were forced to per- •1159 expenditure at home. Thc 'corps should be ." •f the Day Girth the contract ; hut improvelisents and etabel. roduced, not 'wimps totally ; it might he advise- . ' I lit Coasialia.Y liabineists were going 00, which would make th.' lie to leave a skeleton for an increase of the I I • , , . • cusi of that onerous fabric at l••ast 53,0001. But , corps, if it should be necessary ; but if the num.. ' iSil4 ill"- the capo= of the establishment did tint halt here; her of horses were 60001 he would reduce them ttiemett who a miserable house in Pall-mall was bought up at to 1000. Ile apologized for the detail iuto which . .1 . air invention the spor o t.pr i ge 0 f.7 ,1051. f or an E ng i neer on timeh subject id. lid him, but it was one to which • licit. l , l 4 - ..0- 414:r.S.L . liisaltkilatitie the ii i spc e ter..G e nerai was pu t. too keen and palest a W' 'of Jetjuiefeeeld ii prat tins% - a i m e dita *Undid price iti - :ikat hints most a: I nut he airplied : -- It Alas - riiirlYerciarneTWltii: anulaeturiog pensive part of the town. II .e inust now advert noisy of that Honourable House, to vote away • it the second to an expenditure which it might seem isvidions to immense sums without minutely investigating at to this day t o uch upon, he meant the Pay of the superati. j the necessity of the charge, and peculiarly nuated men, and the pensions of widows and of- without knoaving the application of former esti. • i i al in .4010111" fi cers ; but untle'r this - title, interesting as it must mates. 'lhe charge for saltpetre, In which a re. . lin when wo t i , to t h e f ee li ngs o f t h e H ouse, a l arge system o f duction WAS boasted! . of, was 600,0001. Tke • i t wa 4 advisa- o perulatiou was easily cooce.iled ; it 4.-otitained eiarge for Artillery Drivers' horses in Ireland bin "'ld" all the private pensions of the Ordisance, and in was 10,0001. Ile did not comprehend the f aun. - , 1 , now obliged even the last year bast increase I by 6,5991. lie elation of a charge tulliat extent ; did it compre- . found a charge for the Ciuque Ports; he request. f head the purchase of horses in Ireland for the that a large e d to k now if the fortizieations• at Dover ucre corps here? [lie was answered in the negative g .n t h a city completed. Ile found in the Estimates the Chat- acro s the 'table.] He confessed himself totally •. . ere 1111 l Is for hani Head • dialtuisked, but still the extrava. at a loss tuaccount 'for a charge which seemed so • .: ; • undertaking ;once then! had been iniorm(rus. He •had bat to superior to the necessities of the small corpthista- d the lighting instance the Artillery Barracks : those . build- (J o liet! in Ireland ; and he must lament to find, LI by distinct hogs contained anent 1000 men, with a few that the spirit of economy which had given such . _ in ct districts ; h orses , and sem- sheds for carriages ; yet the ex- hope of rational retrenchment was merely nouti- , .••.. . . I merit iii the pence of the work haul been 150,0001. So much nal at best ; tvreduction only from one degree of . ms allowed to for the Ilead . of Chatham —[o laugh !] H e waste to another ; from the indefensible extrava. the reading of spoke fromnneniory, bat t h e: work was altogether fiance of last year, to the almost equally culpable d that no spit'. on the most wasteful plan. lie saw in that bar: extravagance of the present one. - ... eor to the.iii- racks, windows as. showy and handsome as any Mr. A. COOPEt defended the condttet Of the that it were in London, and many of them plate.glass ; and Board, with respect to the estimate of the ex- 1 , and limited what was still more preposterous, this handsome Imitces•of the Ordnance Office, in Pall-mall: Pit se• showy lofiy.building was iu the very lines; the enquiry they found that the erection of a new in the idea of sills of thesluors were above the crown of the house would cost upwards .of 40,000 i. and they purpose, htit, walls; iii# in case of an attack' from the enemy therefore determined to see if one Could not be Ohms,' would (*hid Ifillallitbld he should ever see), the first procured at a more economical rate, which might •ge. hope of tilitialdiers would be to see it in ruins, answer all the purposes just as well. Under theme • any meu the unless they - Weis satisfied to be crushed' by the circumstances, Lord Chatham directed him to - - . -....., . . .. a ..-..1.1 1.1. 41.,inrs aitntit i apply fur the Union Cla,b-house, in Pall,niall; out, and ts course the chapel. was tic- • This, however, the Methodists of the very ready to •taka off their hada if With respect to the estimate •fot rtillery horses, there *ere sit thou- es obliged. to be kept up in the ser. • tlivfti 3;00 were employed in Great 6qo in Ireland, someln Sidly, some in and the rest in other places. it !night bat 6000 was too great a number of ar. rses to keep tip ;• they were necessary, • • if it was only to train and esercisti ttio [if laugh.] This might aprcai lutlicsOus - • , - • , • • • • three al the .D OAS it;ridge. r hn!intsr- )tiliOlt N E. &I 1 ief{ AM ; bus tbe arts 0 he ',pre lim, ince I' Cambridge .!.tt .4 actuated T FREE vrilli. ber, Mr. ley in your nos for) nur tw fortunate nay depend duties of Lke the car t., the Servant, tY1)51..5. loyine raper irta for in .• &atm and , re of hit; the 16th 41les of Riryttirti, rt) Bottle) , Porter's /recerliog. 'orniitg of at be de- ttf HeA•irs. lafic, Ten- RH de Per clut,htt l►y apply. 1:loaed, any Drawn I4uefitr. .. X 5,001 5.0 st) rid FOUR sisey Prizes:, cas.lo.; ofii.seer of a ),NE lIUN , a QuArter, lh may gain 11,DS. 1A11.1)SON, ornhill, :aid o : s, wilts .old ;Hr Prizeb X9.0.011—, , ,e ,00,)—:3,4:36 C. ',umbers, should Unseal. , 'dice, Icsg Sws- 27!A. above'