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pedistai nude ose of for the purpose of coming that measure into execution ; for it appeared to that the principle of the old militia was solely this, to train to anus the great body of the people. Ho. Lordship then mated, that the words " and bat. tutted," in the present Bill, be rejected. Uptin the motion being put, Earl STAN uorg rose. and spoke to the following purport :—" My Lords, 1 rise to wake a few oh servotions upon the motion proposed by my Noble Friend, because l should have thought. upon this ocettsion, that the Noble Lords opposite would have and have Deleon some sense upon the sub ject ; instead of which they have chose." to remain silent. So far as the clause now submitted to the consideration of the 1-IZeise is ditfereut from the provisions of the present Bill, end bears a greater resemblance to the principle of the old militia ; so far it meets with we approbation; because, my Loris. Lehould wish that we could agaiu revert to the old eoestitutionial mode of arming the people. By this I &tam *nude to the Militia Acts them selves. but I allude to that old coustitutional statteld, first introduced and adopted by that glo visas character, Alfred the Great. In these tunes. when we we likely to be attacked by a greet and formidable enemy, *boa 1 will contend, may sue . teed in invading this country—not only do I con teed that it is possible, but 1 could even chew, were it net a delicate subject, that it is perfectly easy for the French to invade our shores ; in these times, my Lords, when the Noble Lord opposite (Mu4rave) at the head of the Admiralty, will not be bad enough to assure the House or the coun try that it is altogether in the power of the navy to prevent invasion, I. think suet' measures ought to be adopted, as may tend to bring into the field , when requi red, the great mass of the people. Such was the case in ancient times, when our ancestors had recourse to the posse eostitahts. Therefore, so far as the proposed alteration agrem with the prin ciple of the old militia, it has my concurrence. If we tern our eyes to the continent, what have been the events there ? All those Goveneuents, old, rotted, and corrupted, have been knocked down by Bonaparte ; they have tumbled before him like nine-pis. When liarrere came into the Convention, at the time of the revolution, lie ad erased the ta iir these remarkable words— , I have great and good news to tell you, twenty-two na tions have healy leagued themselves together for your destruction, and it remains for yi u to over come them.' What has been the result ? These twenty-two nations, excepting Great Britain and Sweden, hare been overcome by the armies of France. In sech times, my Lords, it would be come us to adopt those, measures which may tend to bring into the held, if occasion required, the greatest pobsible armed force, and in order to do this effectually, we should so conduct ourselves that we may. to that hour of danger, rely upon the feelings awl disposition of the people." Lord HAWSEtiSinIY observed, that he should not trouble the House with many observations on this subject, because it had been previously dis cussed upou going into a Committee. Although he did not coincide with the Noble Earl (Selkirk), at the same time he entertained great respect for ha observations on a measure of this nature. — Looking at the Local Militia Bill, he certainly must consider it as likely to raise a permanent and useful force; it was not a measure of the moment, which might spring out of circumstances, but, regarding futurity. it would be expedient, both innate of war tad in time of peace. Lord Stostourrs said. that he particularly ap roved of the mode suggested by his Noble Friend p Selkirk 4 he did not perceive that it would inter fere with the principle of the Bill, mud on that se eountdid sot think there would be any objection to the insertion of snch a clause. With respect to the Bill, it met with his approbation, because it was the most complete and diet-tied measure which had been resorted to by any former Administration. The Earl of SEI.ILIRICS motion was negatived without a division, after which the 13111 passed. MR. PALMER'S PER CENTAOE RILL. • Lard Ettore rose, awl stated, at some length, those reasons which induced him particularly to move that this Bill be rejected. %Vhen he took into his consideration the nature of the contract be tween Mr. Palmer atoll His Majesty's Government. he really did not see that the coustruction ehich Mr. Palmer hod been disposed to put upon that agreement was at all justified by the terms of the agreement twit. In his opinion, the engagement with Mr. Palmer was in consideration of his services', and continued no longer than those services were performed : besides, there were cher...es ageing Mr. i'aliner's conduct, while be coutinul in the em ployment of the Post-office :—One of three charges wait of a serious nature ; for it accused him, and the evidence seemed to support the acen eating, that he (.%lr. Palmer) had persuaded one of the persons employed under the Post Master Ge neral, to make out false accounts. for the purpose of defrauding the revenue. It was pitiful on his part to urge any thing ui this nature against en in d a vidual, hut be could we're the Ilonse he was softly guided by the impulse of riehtly mug his duty to the public. Thu ..4;.enre laid before their Lordships, by the Constniefee, iteln chug the estletive of Mr. Low , . who hail been es *mined, went to show, that alsisough in the first instance Mr. Pitt had proposed tie per ceutage was to be paid, yet, afterward,', this proportion was altered ; and it cully appeared,' that in re- • spate to the agreeinent with Mr. Palmer, the evidence on their Lordship's' bible clearly catistied his mind, that the pereinnance of his duty was the stipulation by which the remuncrueon was to take place. If Mr. Painter so conducted himself that it was necessary to remove him from that si tuation. preventing at the same trete that advan tage which was expected to arise to the public, from his continuing his services, which wits con templated by Mr. Pitt, at the time he wait-. the agreement, Mr. Palmer hail no reason t.i ro:npluin, and might consider himself amply remunerated by the au unity ity which had here granted hint for ,o long a period of time. After making several other observations in respect to the different engage ments which Mr. Palmer had entered into. and co mmenting upon the evidence sn far 'is it affe c ted Mr. P a lmer's conduct and those it yay cue acs, his Lordshiu moved, " That the Bill lie rieeited." The Earl of MOIRA, in a speech of very great k b ._ eloquence. defended Mr. Paliner's claim. There could he no doubt, In hie mind, upon the subject : it W. 16 a c lear gad suleatei contract wade two, cell' an individual and the Government. He had taken the utmost }milts to go through, with attiaition, all the evidence upou their Loidships table, not one particle of which, wheat taken with u reference to the whole, had the least tendency to set aside, in the judgisseat of an holiest mail, the just right of this claim. Uncoonected with 31r. Palmer, he never felt himself, in any period of his life, more strougly inclined to exert himself in be half of those %shoat he considered as sutlering the hardship of great injury. He conjured that House to weigh, with greet deliberation, and with circumspection to decide, a subject of suds great importalice. A &term:nation, which must be termed jialicial, would be the vote of every Peer upon this o I•i.iou. lie was astonished that any attempt 1.11001: le made to subvert au engegs:nieut which ought to Ise preserved inviolate ; bat if that House could he induced thus to break through contracts with private individuals, where justice and every thing that was sacred required a different con duct, thesis was an end to the respect which was due from the counts to the proceedings of Parliament. This wash question in which no political principle, Or any party animosity, could, or ought to have the smallest infinseice. But' he was amid the rude hand of power As at thisetinie applied to very im proper purposes; it was applied to break down the barriers of justice, and to cause the violation of every sacred principle which ought to have regn lated that power, when the ease of an individual catne before it, for the fulfilment of a soleanu contract. With respect to the charge :mole against Mr. Palmer for his misconduct while tilling a situation in the Post-Office, a charge certainly of the meet serious nature, accus'ils him of au attempt to defraud the public and the rave sue, be taunt say that, with deference to the Noble Lord (Elan) who, he could have no doubt, was actuated by motives of duty, the evidence laid before them by the Committee did nut \N tumult such an accusation, hut, on the contrary, clearly chewed that Mr. Palmer never did persuade any persons to commit any such fraud ; and although irregular accounts had been made out by other persons nude signedly, Mr. Palmer was sot in the least privy to such irregularity. His Lordship then wean into a history of the engagement made iu 1786, the alteration of it in 17139, the substitution of three thousand per annum 111 3793. and the pro ceedings of the Committee in the House of Com mons, in 17J7. From these statement* he argued, that the substitution of three thosisaild wends per annum was not accepted by Mr. Palmer as a commutation for the 2 per cent. and that the evi dence of Mr. Pitt himself, as far us it went, rather supported than contradicted the agreement; sod instead of havitt examined Mr. Long upon this ,question, he thought it won'd have been more regular to have exionined a Nolsie Earl (Cam den,) and a Reverend Prelate (Idielsop of Lin celii,) who were in high situations sit that time, and privy to the engageitieuts ampere/a into is ith Mr. Palmer. His Lordship coatende:l, that Mr. l'al mer had nut been desirous to bring tbraard the pre sent measure. and probably it would base been much wiser its to have agitated the questiosi at all, but by neglecting to notice it, it would have ex pired of itself. it was a siihject winch had 3144.11 gravely considered by the other House, which had taken every means of coming at all the evi dence which could possibly be adduced, and there would be a want of propriety on the part of their Lordships, if they should give a coin-ere decision, when they were not in pos.uNtion f all the evidence inquired into by the Home of Coin.nons. lie thought there was sornetliing inissoiserous in this proceeding, for lie had hers. informed that notice had been given in another place that the grant to Mr. Patiner would be separated from the general Appropriation Bill. To get rid or this question eistirely, he should propose* , That their Lordships do now adjoursi." Lord II summit., at great length, opposed the claim of Mr. Palmer's per centage, sand thought that he was amply compensated by three thousand per annum, which had been bestowed upon Vim for the last fifteen years. Lord ERSRINE, in a speech replete with power fill argument, eouteuded that Mr. Palmer had au indisputable right to what he had claimed upon the faith and responsibility of •His Majesty's Govern ment. Although by the law laid down in the case of Wilkinson against the Commissioners of the Navy, it was decided Cast those who acted merely as servants of the Executive Government were not hound by their engagements, but the performance entirely depended upon their owa honour and in tegrity, still it so happened, to the honour of our Government, that it never did break any of those engagements; and wlauever it was necessary to try the facts of tne case, it was the constant prac tice tsf •.11 public boards to come to issue nn those facts, a:id thereby gi..e cognizance to Courts of Justice. Lord WAV:IVORIM represented erveril of the transactions which took plaice when he was Post master-General, ami :helm; a that Mr. Pal titer had been amply reinuneniterl, and lout rite eluira upon Government for what he termed an agreement re specting his per comago . The Loan CHANCT Ol.ArTred, that it was painful to him to give his %etc against the claim of an individual, because it frequesitly happened, that individuals conceived themselves, when they did make claims, entitled upon such evidence as ap peared strong in their own prejediced imagination. Ile considered Mr. Palmer na' not iiisti:hal pn any application to Parliament lii es of that reward which had already been him fur the services whieh were perforieseol. Ito ought to hare beat satisfied with the .30001.a-vear which haul been granted to him in 1793 ; fur. it' tile claim of that sum keel been narrowly ex:indeed into, having a regard to the r.creement for that purpo, , e, per haps it have ',ern tinesti.m.ilde how far lie was entitled to an annuity. It ..a- certainly a T , M'y Stlifi , l4!.l3 rUCllMpetitl• fur tni..t services ; fifteen years had ease l sit in whis-h he hail not been employed, uad it wt..% to be continued during lii. life. The Earl of RADNOR raid, that whatever might he his censure of Mr. Palmer's tamt:iiet, even if he had heel' foiled guilty of felnay and transported, still he shotild have tlitylOit that ..vary era agrme lit solcunil) entered into kept with tldelity. Earl STAtittoec rose to ob,erie, that he should not say one word iii fa our of or against Mr. Pal mer's claiin. 'l•he only subjeet, he coaceived, un der •their Lordships consideration, •wll5 the pro priety of adjournment, rather than come to a deci sion where they had not sufficiently inquired into the itiformation necessary to form their Judgment. He could not help noticing that the Noble and Learned Lord (Eldon) had tit his speech grossly misrepresented the opinion of the Chief Justice of the Common !lees, and treated it with more asperity and levity than he ►hould have prc sutned to treat any Judge's opinion I self. He was glad an opportuility had occurred, when he was forced to defend the conduct of the Judges, and he hoped the time might arrive when he• might be tlivosed to perform the same good office fur the Bishops. Ile bad been blamed for comparing one of the. Judges with Justices Seroggs and Jeffries, lout the Chief Justice of the COMILIOII PIeUS mo►t, if what had been said by tin: Noble and Learned Lord (Eldon,) concerning his opinion, Irtii correct, be a greater blockhead than Justice Alibo. It would, iu Ids opinion, be prudent to take time to consider this subject, and have the opinion of the Judges, and on that account should vote for the adjournment, for the purpose of gaitring more information to form Ilia own judg ment. . Lord REOESDALE did not perceive that Mr. Pal ma', had the smallest claim, and contended at con siderable length that the Bill ought to be rejected. The motion of adjournment was then put, • coutruts Nets Cameos JO Majority in &your of Minisltra The 1;i:1 v.res then rtierted. RN ITN and OT !I Flit it. _II,LLTIII The LCIIIV) CHANT, t.Lort stated the whole case respett ing the apptal upon this insurance cause, and after comment in` upon the arguments alleged on both aides, was of opinion that there a u no trend slur want of necessary information respecting the time of the chip's wiling from Charleston, in America. lie trusted that their lordships a ould agree with him, that the decision of the Court of Sudan ought, under all the circumstances of the ease, to he ulrund with cods. Judgment was green aceordingly.-saAdjuorned. 1101*SE OF COM3IONS. Sir W it CCOTT obtained Ituve to bring is a Bill to estead the provisions of the Act of the 45th of the Kin, far the Encouragement of Seamen. His object u: s r to give to pri vate seamen ntpt inferior officers, a larger proportion of peme muncy thus they at pmeot reeeire. The Bill was brought np, read a first time, sad ordered to be it aot a second time to-utt•l row. . Mr. H sec isson broils:it up a Bill for the appropriation of Grants of the present Session, to the respective services for which they were voted. Read a first time, and ordered to be reed a second !tow to-morrow. _ . _ Mr. IiVIIKISVIN obtained leave to bring in a Bill fur re gulating the marking of hay' and pockets of bops. The Lottery Bill, the Pay imisWrs' Dill, the Warehousing Bill, and the Americas Goods Bill, were severally reed a third time sad missed. The Woollen Suspension Bill, the Irish Spirits Bill, unit the WoolwichWater Works Bill, were severally read a second tune, and ordered t.. be reported to,niorrow. The Welch Cuel Bill, the Soothers Whale Fishery Bill, the Silk Duty Bill, the Vote of Credit Bill, the Irish Gaols' Bill, Mr. N'l)uwalfs Estates Bill, and the Irish Treasury Mils Bill, were severally reported, and ordered to be read a third tour to-mrrow. Mr numinous brought up au secoent of the slipcase of clothing tbg King's German us the table. The Brasil Postage Bill was committed, arid the report ordered to Ire received to-saorrow. A raessair,e from the Loe.s announced their Lordships' aosent to the following Bilk—the Loan, tlic Vote of Credit, Irish noise, Barrack Account, Sinaggling Prevention, Fishery E..courageinesit, lisekney Coach, American Trade, West India (snmiiiissiaisers, and several 'Private Bills, with , out any amendments; and the Mayuouth College Bill, aith amendments. WEST INDIA MERCHANTS.. Mr. Ent;N rose for the purpose of putting a question to the Chancellor of the Exchequer, rela tive to certain rumours that hail gone-abroad, us to ftirther relief being about to be afforded to the }Vest India Proprietors rad Merchants, than that of Cie btopeage of distillation from grain. lie wished to know, whether it was the intention of Crovernmeut to inupot , e any further measure upon this subject during this Session The Cu t ET. toe of the Excricetcen answered, that he conceived toe reduction of the duties upon coffee, and the increasing of the &tiles upon bran dy, so as to augultent the consumption of rum, were measures %%Well would twee a similar ten dency with that of the distillation from Further than these he certainly was not prepared to suggest any other measure, during the present session of Parliament.towards the relief of the indi vidual* alluded to, the more especially as the mi nutes of evidence adduced before the Committee were not yet folly before the }louse. Mr. BASILAN gave notice that he would, on Thursday next, submit a motion relative to the two Reports of the Sugar Committee, now nl the table, sad he wished to know when the minutes of evidence might I/ expected? Lord BINNING stated, that he understood these minutes might be presented to-morrow. SCOTCH JU DI CATU R E BILL. On the ritoTsittiftheLoltD iDVOCATK Of SCOT. LAS D. this Bill was reossaineittoi for further cuu. siderstion. In the Committee, considerable discussion took place upon various clauses, and particularly that which went to prevent any appeal to the House of Lords upou an interlocutory judgment of the Lurd Ordinary in Scotland, unless upon a point which, in the opinion of all the Judges, involved th.• whole merits of the cause. 'the Loan Aosor ATE and the Soi.tetTon-Gc -14 KRAL of SCOTLAND, aided by the Esratstt Su- LICIITOR-GlEalta.4l., and the CD INCELLOR of the Excuctiumt, supported the clause, as it came from the Clouse of Lords. Mr. Massa, Mr. AftEttrItONIDY, and Sir S. ROMILLY, united in opposing it; and the latter of them proposed as an uniendineitt, that appeals should lie allowed in all rases where the Judges of the I 'mut of Session were not 1.111411111110U5 a, to the merits of the interlocutory judgment. The result of the discussion was, that the clones was worded so us to include both the original pro vision, and that the interlocutory judgment, which might be appealed against, blintlift he such .us re lated to the whole merits of the rause, except i❑ tacsets viliere there was a difference of o l .inion amongst the Judges. Mr. lIORNES nest objected to the claim which allowed appeals upon interlocutory judgments ►hat had become final. This, he thought, wuok multiply appeals, and give rise to negligenci in the parties allowing such judgments to hecourl final. The LORD AritocATE stated. that it was no 11 vourite clause of his, and therefore he should COI seat to withdraw it. Au the einise being read for vesting iu the. Crow :he uppoiutineut of Commissioners to inquire int . . the mode of ailuiiiiiaterin* justice iu Scotland, al the propriety of iutroiluelog the trial by jury p r cess into Scuttibh Court.— Mr. HORNER moved "That thisappointinent vested, not in the Crowu, but in Parliumeut." TI Was Supported by Mr. WHITBREAD and Ur. TIERNEY, and stn nuously opposed by the LORD ADVOCATE, t CHANCELLOR of the ExcalLuct:a. and the Su CITOR-tir:NEI:AL for SCOTLAND. . . Upoa the iimendment, a division took pla , when thereippeared, for the amendment— Ayts, z—Noes, 44—M saj °My, J 2. The' House then resumed, the report was broug t up, unit ordcrist to be received to-morrow. AS , 4ESiED TAXES BILL. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the E* CHEQUER, that toe Speaker leave the. Clair, for the committal of this Bill, being carried, • Mr. I:Limos objected to the propriety of the Speuker's having left the Chair, us he was anxious to have given that amnia hi. decided negative. The SPF-11.1:11 observed, that *smelling to the usagesof the I louse, the objections of the lion. Mein live could not iegularly be entertained, as the Chair had already been vacated by him, tuoier the comic tion that the motion had been regularly passed, s ith out any dissentient col, v. Iloweier, the lion. Mem ber would be sow fully at liberty to discuss, in the Committee, any of the respective clauses of the Bill, or the whole Lill collectively. The Bill was then read by vtriagraplis, and a ver bal amendment, respecting the appointment of as sessors, agreed to, on the maim% of Mr. WARDEL. Mr. /SHAND objected to the intended mode of collecting these taxes by luilf-yearlv as ewwcuta, which were so connived art to fall due, on one or other of the assessed taxes, each • 'tenter of a year. The CHANCELLOR of the E.le,irAlima raid, each arrangement had been found absolutely necessaiy, to prevent the taxes falling into imam as had been usually the case hitherto. Hy becorniag dna each quarter. it rendered their payment more con. venient to the middle and lower ranks of the cow. Several new clauses were proposed, sod several amendments were made. Mr. WARDICI., as a check upon vexatious SW. charges. moved—" That the Inspector should suite the grounds of the surcharge in the certifi cate, so a to enable the party to come prepared to tneet it." lie cited various instances of rexatioo, in onler to prove the necessity of 'some specification. Au amendment to that effect was proposed and agreed tn. Mr. W•RDEL also suggested that persons St7r charged should he Called upon to answer on oink only fur the particular assessment, and not he gene rally sworn to the accuracy of the original return. The CILANCELLOIit of the EXCUNQUER took oc. canon to mention, that he would reserve the op portunity of 4:mlBi:feting the propriety of the sup gestioni. Another amendment was proposed for rednting the excessive penalty of 5001. on vexatious sur charges, to a more etas-amiable and practicable attionat of tine, and for empowering Commissioners to levy imin , diately the fine, instead of leaving it to a tediums prseess of law. Oit the suggestion of the CHANCELLOR of the Eel:lli:gum, the penalty was fixed at 1001. Mr. WI LEI A.M SMITH Ikell proposed the post ponement of the clause, to afford tinge fur the cos aideration an adequate remedy. The question being put on Mr. Sandie amend ment, u division took place— it Postvenetwyst 91 Aetria.t it Tie ciao... a.,: of course agreed to. When we were re-arlittitted to the gallery, the CitAxcr.r.i.on of the E\CHKQUEIt wee main% a proposinott, that Commissioners General or Itispes• tors General Alintt:tl he • appointed to preside 10 cases of appeal, at the salary of 6001. a-year, with allowinices for travelling charge:, clerks, &c. Mr. WHITBREAD and Mr. Thine v opposed it. on the ground that the appointments were unne cessary, and would only add to the eipenaes of the country. Mr. PERCES IL. Lord CA•4I`I.F.RE ARV, Mr. CAN. % I % n, and ,Ir. WILIIMWJaCE, supported the pro polition. I la the question being called for, the Committee dit tiled, when there appeared— Ayes ss Nora There were several new clauses brought up and agreed to. The House resumed, and the report was ordered to Me brouOt up this day. The Stamp Duty Bill was read a third time and pa.sed. Th.. other orders or the day were then of. and th.• Douse :oljouraed at rota °Vim a itILS NIOIIN G. AVERIC It %Li, AX, <<r Ilia Excellency the Lientenant.Goveritor t fit, with the advice of Ilia )fej•eti's Pannell, to appoint I r ata` the loth day of June n..• t, ua a day of Public Flotii; ..ed tlitrou;hout the Pcovitice V Eerert!Ot Ittv. EitßAtt,..n—Th.! bank:el:puts , rt Nry York, tutu ittus lu the loth of Aril, :tut sunk a 14 o,rct r, t)e the elturnio.lt 541111 Of 111% millions tire band.. i a fire thousand dultio:s. ". Aur paper. from by the Em. . art to the 7tla inst. The .11r.ri Ivan ruit.zi.su rireirlitili,l • ult. to met t AS 1,11 . " I 111 SI 1. plente!:t. - }laithiu 1li:1 it . , 1 . the Bill elatinr i‘in7, this Pre,:.:i•ut to 31:n 01 • was pO.t pu1.4 1 The Vrtlnni , ..trs has I . 11001i i tint prohitath Ifni trs.:. w .th • Cam a e n • and the wateis of I. w 'AO •; source of C.to pry per-"T a it ti