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sone the o►tereatitae at the nom Mustier u as impolititte open hie ilesimt, sad t►ink he acted ■airartbiy la sat re pellipg it • afMf litt seseranee ef s►e Hoe starer, boo. ever, be fell vale satisfied it was mot brimfull le apply to him or ►is .mica, air ROBIRT HERON presented s potti es i tem t h e In. habituate of Mid; id the wtt, of. Llabolo, mayiog fur a Worm In Portineria,. Lord P. IHRIOHNI presented a similar Petitions from the Slob* ef sy , _ Mr. a/1U sal& In bad in. Ms bead s Paid,* AM tire Noblems, GaAs% Clergy. Fietteddern, sad lidiabitsurs Alle• the rowdy of Suffolk, which hat has farwardpil to Mn Om pewee, intim anoniilabla Mimes of the kidepeadset Mew' her fur that county, Mug at a grimes danodis This !Otitis. II•d - barn adapted at one of the largedeliseroo if, of Ms meaty ease tme, sad was sigasd pi tt e r a et i ' m it 1,000 of its meet respectable inhabitants. leeniplainoll of th, oral essieset of Illinisteva, sabisagtbry limed tu have ' the confidence sf the cialsotry t., 'their extravagant system of expenditure ' by their maim. loom of at notrums sanding army, by their modal to .11tr4teen. aoktuftheir amexion with the advocaat con tinental fiats; nael they prayed for a Reform is Pasha. attest nashrostesatoteddstising them grimaces. The Peel. 1&w hail liMmastfbanamassppots, dor ha meld eat forget the warikaditati ehatitalti quoin isamba Ileum raftimark haaulalllairairadortellaumbvido a saw' Ilan — llan bed beam as Mfrs alma illhauralerde were alalted. i.ll Ma tram ellivalialea ohne of Ns dlahaallisar . - the cou ntry, mod alt tit inimilowl, nrildwitb whteb- It WM , alfficnal. Mr. Fox wag a Arm friend of *.Sr., bet nen teasel, tie sheemantif.'6l weeks Illimister for • wen- shdrt time. ililddient - greet meg messineted *a grantee tbe no title, sone of the evils which it had now* dolleplsia Mr' wouishompr Imareinialsognilliteirimiim et obenakind endr wools/ it Min ben Stlantoseebby a eminexion witb - that Wens —.add cell the Irefeeml Allimate-0001 hen bosomed. that if his their Pet e iliV i tn - r i a, l d the Horse, although he r or support its prayer. introducing the Petition, the independent Member. . Member tonsured his owe of his ants, if so, he (Mr. G.) ority; bet is independeace of Would set yield to the Hoe. man in die country. Hs 'rattan a coovictios of the from no other motive; he favours from them. He wee dining as soy was, bat he who the Petitioners were, It was styled the Pettnee Freels - alders of Suffolk. of three Noblemen, for veneration and respect, the noting being flee. r booonsable, mould sot be said _ aretietrets of tin Nubility of the county. With unravel to the Gentry he had examined the Com. mission of the Pent, sod demi it to rentals 450 names, air. which OW" impels* were alined to this Petitioe.— There were 500 eheveh linens le the comity, bet only eight' Chtetymes nesoortile Pentagons; mod name to tbe Pr /solders, he was confident that of RAMS signatures to dirt'! Position got abovel , ooo were of **600016 4 Or much M tbe /*thin Pannone the eplsiblavddi illelseety. It ai r' curlews to observe the sew liable *Web beat in upon pee.' germ each meetings. Thar Waildifeeet 1 lie hush,. abibeerph lately a Menhir erthotillionowi=llfshinfitg Ms soli is the nese ell itelonsi, eroded by entiosially urging it epee the at bad sever eves takers hie asst—(ifenr, l 7=—fta lbe His. Damsel (Sir C. Beaber# who seee•ded liallaby. the &Mee of lilnder-Seesetory of Stale, from which he aelln*4 with a yemeinn, although he was teed in his lon abeedfulieV obese and sinecure", and for teeny years served in office witb' these veep Miuuters ahem be now took such pains to ..—(aietes from tea Mint renal Dersokm.)—The Hon. Mead.' bier tembloded by etatian, that the bellows bed ben meet reendu=prealmile that tM Petition bay at tbeT*wu Hall for *mai sm. WESTERN asalnlained that the Petition fairly ex tie. 111t0048.11* saki, he Issieseer Mint to assert doll It was entirety seasinsess; • estashnoss is a eipbes--(A fesigh)-er to a sisals eill.iglentiedflir).insid: if eins'afie peered that the Noble Lewd sad the Right lion. Ovelkoaan opposite claimed to be recepled.«.(AdipMeso. • by had they est attewded the meeting with Mesas as heath with these, by way of *awing the easel state of the feel imp-00as meaty ? Tile merit gsoy POO* ellial upon a reesisitioa, es was eassli4ly osu tee, Lied Liesteseet, so respectably.-.lod se le Mobs IM *O akes expressed at each a imetieg well mesa afiteadiag le. The Petiti on , b e would repeat , did, in leek e s Ora.., almost saasissotis *pietism of the mealy{ and be sandpit* the resin of the denial of obit circa onsle:i w aseiltl be autism retinae with Orient's...wised, le so eller - so the , priest beyond an doubt. Sir R. WILSON, hi Ali.' severe e o f. hi s Men. 01410111 110 s, llide a h z oceasioned bydemesne to ir A Petitions front the Electors of the " ef Eetstl coestilsents, preying for Parliselsitat7 Reform. - iiree adopted at a ositeliag publicly convoluted, sad was steed by .any Mho tied heretofore bee. anestaat supporters of his illajestfii ?Calmer., bat whir bail &nod acclaim le alter their .pinkies, is the pressatre of Manias sad the Meese. of their hordes., which the lavish expenditure amid loneliness COM•MeI of obese ?dishier' hid oceasioutd, aid fee which they bail no hopes of is remedy bat is a Reforea.of the House of Commune. kb. DENMAN prosealk a Pennell from the lababitesto *Vibe rows of Nuttineheas,expression, is lam cage &IMPOST. she stew as that Dom the twenty of Devito. the 'pintoes of I Petitioners ea she state of the country, nod praying for a , ' is die represestation. la those opinieas and Oast 4 . . bit, tweet heartily coacerred. ' . . ?Whin. above ealegierated were severally laid oa the ltible; i iid ordered to be printed. REFORM IN PARLIAMENT. Mr. I.IIIIIIITON then rose to bring snider the con sideration of the House a measure for the purpose of effecting a Reform in the representation of the people in Parliarinent. At all timer and on ell occasions he should be most unwilling to trespass at much length on the time of the House; but at an time, or on no .cession, could he feel. se more than now, a hen proposing to address the House on s subject which had exercised the talents and el°. qoesice of so many of the brightest and most illus trious ornaments it ever had within its walls. No thing, he could 'lessee the Hens*, but the most anxious desire to contribute, accoiding to his hum• ble abilities, to remove that distress and alley that discontent which unfintuustely pervaded the per* ple of this country to PO greet an extent, could have induced him to take upon himself the management of a question to which he felt so incompetent.— (Been itecrc.)a-lis executing the duty which he had undertaken, he knew that he should have to enettendsgainst the indisposition of the House lo be told of its own itoperfectious—against that dis- ' like which all bodies of men had to beer accuse tious against themselves, and if any proof of this hostility of feeling were wanting, it would be-found in' the present state of the benches opposite.—(The • rreikay. Benches were at this period of the eiren ing elitsailutbly empty.]—He was rather inclined to seameit hiesseties at the present moment, and take the *we- et the House on it—/d leugh)— I the few Gentlemen opposite, sod among theta he perceived some of his own friends, could easily be _ous-uumbestd. But, however', be overlooked this '. , ersolit. If it were iuteaded as-a primal insult to binsielf, now iwthe anoinenceseesik be repelled it with indignation—/ Hear)—if it were designed as an affront to the people, lie trusted it would teach ; them • lesson which would not soon be lost ; when, • in addition to this, he had to contend *gone the recollection of the genius an d t a l en t o f - the illus tritons persons who had et different times supported the cause of Reform, end, moreover. against the distinguished eloquence of the Right Hon. Geode man opposite (11r. Canning, we understood), who who always opposed to any change in our cowl lotions/ system. bat to nothing more than that Ofended system of amelioration which he deemed it his duty to propose, lie bad good reason to be diecouregod ; hut he did hope to obtain the indulgence of the House— (Hear)—and she Honourable Member for Boston might believe him that nothing but a sense of duty, nothing but • conviction of the necessity of conciliating large bodies of the people by the restoration of rights of which they had been long deprived—rights enjoy ed by their ancestors, and the deprivation of which had mainly contributed to produce that long and ruinous system of wasteful expenditure and mks. rule under which the country was now suffering. Nothing but•this could have induced him to on-, ginaie hit. present motion; no other cause had so nistilay contributed to the distress and sufferings of the people as the corruption of the House of Com mons. Sad and gloomy war our present coedi ting : compared with it, all part difficultiel vanish. ed. The spirit of discontent was ' stalking abroad. and it'wiS not now to be stilled by those promises • for • writs of year., as unsparingly givers 111 they , had been unbtoshingly violated. The diffusion of education, and the consequent expansion of loci- Irct among a great mass of the people, rendered it impossible any longer to conceal from them the true cause of their distress. In assiguing the defective state of the representation among these comes, he was supported bt an authority he least of all ex pected—lie Meant the authority of Mr. instice Best. The HOn. Gentleman then read an extract from one of that lion. Justice'. charges to a Grand Jury, wherein he asserted that to pursue the unit measures towards the lower orders after being en: li4htenett:try. education, as before, was the seine thing aitelreit anima , cd like inanimate beings. Hil (Mr. Lasubton) fully concurred wilt) him. He hail recently had an opportunity of witnessing the effect. of education, and ascertaining the habits. of the people throughout one of the counties of the north of England. There was DOT • village, however remote or obscure. into which he had entered, where he was not questioned, end strictly questioned, and his at tend I earnestly drawn to the most interesting topics of the cloy and the symptomsof the times. He thought 110 man could deny that 40 years ago the people of England were more remarkable for apathy and in attention to passing events, than they were now, when it only required the influence of some great question to call them all into potion. —(ffear, hear.) —Has it not become a matter of necessity dirt the representatives of the people should attend to that great work of amelioration, which alone could satisfy the minds of their constituents ? To what but the want of this could the present eshousted condition of the country be attributed? We had a national '' , unclip , ' -- pressed the smitheemela of she osoisty. The scouts was publicly tolled by the Sheriff—why did not the hisnotwable Meioticr attend it, and oppose the Petitiok? He hod beard it objected, that the Sheriff hod tblinght proper to commie the inhabitant', as well as the Freeholdern of the codoly. fled not the inhabitants, he would ask, • right to Petition that House se'well as the Freeholder. ? The Hon. Mem- Ler then proceetled to contrast this Petition a. as expressive' of the opinion of the toasty, with the cowman. ..declaration privately got up, and hawked about for signaturesly the Clergy and other reunite among those over whom they sight bh supposed to have any influence. With all those efforts till bad sot been able to procure signatures equal is the number of hundreds to that of thethonsands attached its this Petition. That cototoodeclaratioo was !lipid by silt or seven Noblemen, who were either in office or coo. netted with the Governniest ; mie.tenth at least of the eminter.deelarationisis were Clergymen-4 Mar, hone) — hut - of seeetety.dve parisbea, the Ministers of which had eigwett it, not a single ishabitant holden bad put his name to it.—(lfear, hear.) . Mr. GOOCH said, his Hon. Friend, the Member for Essex, baying. held out that it was his (Mr. Gooch's) duty to have alt dud the meeting , be begged to my that on the dare( the meeting a call of the House was pesdier, which be was obliged Matteotti, and he wrote to the Sheriff to inform hits that be was thereby prevented from atiesdiug the meeting. Sir It. WILSON said, is reference to the observation of this Hon. Member for Suffolk, upon the conduct of aw Hoo. Borouet, • brother officer of his, charging his with i 11101)1114. oistescy iw advocating the cease of Reform, and at the sacs time holding a pension, lie begged to remind the Don. Mms• bee that it was not a pension of grace and favour, but eye lIIIIMited to the office he had held ; besides which, by adep t:snag Reform, be avowed his readiness to give up that pen. also if a Whitened Parlismeut should deem it 'tectonic , " fur thei,tabli! bead., 111 CUIUSIRN, heron he presented the Petition he held I.Ms beak easpreested the Clerk might read the title of the Act of the EA of George 111. The Clerk accordingly read the title orate Act referred te, which was an Act fur the bet ter securing the independence of Parliament. The Hon. Member then presented his Petition, which was from ON Fred , °Wei , of the Crillety of Cumberland, adopted at a setting, as lie Wig infer/Mt* of nearly 10,000 persons, at which the High Sheriff presided. The object of the Peti• tioners was precisely that which the title of the Act just read expressed, but towards effecting which that Act had been altogether nugatory—a Reform of Par'lamest. Mr. BROUGHAM paid, having had the honour of at. tending the meeting at which this Petition was agreed upon, by could give his testimony of its respeetshility, both in point eit numbers and of the character of the persons present. He ma/ sure there could nut have been less than 7,000 per ..•ll. assembled, of whom at least 11040 were of the yeomanry of the county. The Petition expresard, he might say, the unanimous opinion of the yeomanry and freeholders of that county, and from the opportunities of oh lion he bad had, he would venture to say that a large majority of the 'emir class in the other counties of England were equally decided in favour of Parliamentary Return,. The Petition was signed by the High Sheriff on behalf of the meeting, but hail it been left for tcn days afterwards fur signatore, at least 110,00,/ freeholders would have been found to sign it, and the votes of the House daring that period would not a little have contributed to swell the number —(Her, beer ) Lord LOWTHER said, the Hoomnsble and Learned Gersilemau bad stated, that the Petition expressed the tma- Mitosis upiaioa of the freeholders of Cumberland ; now be was a freeholder of that evenly, and declared it to be most opposite to his sentiments ' and he was cunideut to those of a very large portion of thefreeholders. • 50, much' Feta, to siva Atli trot* deStxu feitild Naiad use 'be airierdell to them w tura iglu, to the mawerfactilleall'llad eileselettall Is , standing army kept spite time of peace. Mils* 'tette ' use of the reasons for deposing /tales I I.—.ooVoloill of representation by which mots in the House of INelMons were *pally eSposeti to sale and ptieChifted..-m mode of government . fruitful in discootait, distrust, and atom. Repeatedly' : were the representatives of the people alarined by' stories of treason—the pole overfiowing with ph. tonere—and their eyes were daily shocked by the most barbemus excretions; the consequences of the most cruel Isar. If they turned their eyes *braid;' they met nothing to compensate fur this slate . oft wretchednme and humiliation at home. He hadosiijo . to mention the names of Norway, Venice, and Gewoo, • to picture the conduct pursued by Ministers in our foreign re latieste--eharmeteritett bye dimegerd to the independeam of ' states. avid a steady support of those feudal isinitntioss which were repuenant, to the liberal spirit of the age.— (Hem, bear.)—After aivesehrg to the Abets Bill, and the course of cosiest:* whoreaml by Mioisiers, la redeemer ta, the lavasiots of Italy ria, with other ciarenterienee, orate *elm offi which be said had reattered hi p a it i piso the people of Fiegba! sib ' of wispleitio, ;Mho* • sad swishes over tse kit wired, suesit wit an. to that the nags*it teethe cause of all these cilamities ? Na, hid * to Welt fee. To the present mentitatien of the Mime of Colanseas might they all ba traced-- m Hoc fouls derivate eludes is Patriots. puma/moque Sask." The early porno* of our history preeesteilamolafted series arsenates between the liberties of the people and preroga. time ofMe crews. But that system of geetensaseat at bomb was altered ; the gwreremest of iallseace was substituted, sad it was found far wore easy to (ovens the setioa by lb. corruptive of its representatives. He meirealsed that dam: that period the libertise of the people were at the messy it. any administration, sad if say liberates were yet his Se us, 1 we owed them to their clensesey algae. The tiosieseshe ' Gewleasan proceeded to detail the various mercy of ba lloter* possessed by the Governateet, bons the collection!' of the revenge is its different breeches, the patronage derived from the army, the navy, aid the church, sad ioferred that they sirengthesed the onset Goveranswit to ruche degree that the people were usable to resist it.--(Cheere.)s-This was total to our peweperily. It rendered void that salutary check which the people would otherwise laws over the treasures of the State, sad constituted • Howie of Coniesnos, whose Members had for the meet part interests &Cereal flew thin of the ProPlo•--(Cheerfirp.)...Was it thee a nutter of sar prise that the public debt should have bees imerseed owe thomaad 1111111110011 daring the late reign, or that the people should look to Ibis system as the mere* of all their prima times sod miseries? He would say then that every true lever of his covutry ought to labour to diminish the jolliest:a of the Crown, and to restore the constitutional power of the Hoene of Coneatoes.—( Hear, bear, base.)—Tlia theory of the comminutes was, that all the parts.? the Male were checks ea each other. Blackstone said, that the people were ache& m the Nubility, the Nubility en the Crown, sod the Crows us both; bat wow, is ex:anteing it, they aunt altogether leave out that of the people, hearse they were nut repremoted. He did not soma to say that there were not a few Members properly and etteseimtiumiy the Representatives of their constituents, bet he unmet that meet of them did sot exhibit men a shadow of popular represestatios. One hundred and eighty iadividwals teturard three hundred sad Illy Members to that Howse--(Hear)-•-• • fart which he could wove at their bar.—(diver, kear.)— These Members were mitprally helloed So the fttneest of Mum who retained thew How ohm did he hear il weld why Mr. A. or Mr. B. had accepted the Claims Huoireds. *ad as often replied, became. not ban able to think with his pantos ee eertais qmpliess,-bahai deessoil U • poled of honest to vacate his seet.-•(ther.)--Siseli feels had repot. edly been brought under the ceasioleratioa of the %wee* 'they were well kliewa. By such means a majority was *ways to be found for the Ministers of the day, reedyft ;aglilsbow avid election my we:mares sokly os the ream-, laillodashow eta Mlaietar. The records of these Osiers wer e !ors So at ne w aolorioas. Not to menthe other letteldroot ti vii the of Hesse Commons bed ~Eiof the lofassaus expeditious to Welcher:vs lios r —He libretti had sees the Home vote in favour of it had rejected he boor before. To prevent the farther continuance of Ibis was his object. In his opinion there ought Is be an exteuslon oohs elective frawebise. His plea consisted of three perta-.10, be would extend the franchise to the classes now unrepresented, namely, house holders, Imseholders, and embolden; telly, he would disfranchise the corrupt boroughs ; 3d Iy, he would shorten the duration of Parliaments. He did not mesa to enter Weeny feet disquisition we the might and constiletios of the House of Commons, but he trusted he should not fatigue the Home in making a Mort allusios to the Acts respecting the duration of Parliaments...(Heer, iisor.)—l. the reign of Edward 11. an Act was palmed, providing that Parliaments should be holden lly. So remiss, however, were the people in the exercise of their rights, that subsequently laws were made to hoe Members for nentatleadance, and to greet them wages while is the service of the public. la the lath Charles 11. as Act was passed, that sew Parliaments Mould be coifed every three years; midis the reign of ~ William and Mary the Trisanial Act was passed.—The seat is the Statute-book was the Act of Ist George 1. Tile. Lanslaws here cited some passages of the Act] called the Sepleasial Act. It was not carried withowt vieleat dawns:ion end solemn proareatim.—{Me. Lamb. ton thea read part of the protest eutered on the Jour nals of the House of Lords *pilot the Act, importing. that instead of diminishiag (its ostensible object), it. would be'ssore likely to Mertese heats sad wambeines is the king. dos: that it was to be feared Ministers would be more tem pt. ed toasted*, at electiose to promisee retsina favormable to themselver, sad afterwards to corrupt the House.] This Septesnial Act, ha costineed, was one of the most &ring exertions of authorlty ever indulged in by any elected legislative aweadily ; it could only be *dolled by the necessity of eirewastances: It was a question at that time, whether, if the existing Parliament were permitted to tapir, at the period prettied by law, there would sot be $ , majority of Members roamed to a sew Parliament !waffle,. to the reigning family ' and to the liberties of the nation re. .tibletred thermirk thews; but it was a most dangerous imam. .=and therefore he recontatesatd the restoration of Prenamestr. As loth, laws regliding the electors. Mid She elected, after the most miaow, isilustriuss march Ibto the polit, he bad come to the earteladon, that dotes to' the time of Fleury VI. all' persons whb posseered any pea r:, were mottled by lbw to vote fur the election of WS. • or Parliament; and this right hod been recognised is various-Aces. He here referred teas Art of Edward 1., tbs . answer of Edward Ilf; to a Petition from the Commons,_ slat kapok** as for the seat Mee which direct that Parliaments should 'be holden every year, let them be observed, and is . to Knights of the Shirr, let them be ochosen by the whole emigre; to the Act 7th Henry' IV. e. 15, which pro vided that all the sailers at the county court next after the Sheriff's receiving the writ, should moist at the dewier of Knights of the Shire. The statute Ilth Heavy IV. reeve. need the right, but made residence a neeemary qualifies. ties. One hundred sad thirty-four years after the Gamow. ledisnent of the right came Me celebrated disqualifyiag Act, B th nowt VI., which provided, Determent of tbe riots wed tumults likely to take piece at elections, that from theme. fireweed Knights of the Shire should be theses by perms& whe had .40s. $ year at the least, in lands or immerses. From Mitt Act was to he dated the exelustoo of the great bodyef the, people free 'hair old consatistftent right, sad he said that they ought tam le be resisted to that right of which they bad bete deprived by fraud. The laws of re. siderite had sot bees repealed till the 14th George 11/. th o ugh they. had always bees evaded. Was it smordiag to the Writ of. the Constitution that the decayed sad it.. . . .. . . c. toe palm ini .......—.. -- - ~. renewable at the will of the lessee ' or seem there ways term' of twenty one-years unexpired. He Should recommend deal at the county election the poll should kat an Imre than tea Instead of Ghent days, which last was the• pretend law. Lastly, he should repeal the Septennial sod re-enact the Triennial Act, and provide a new oath, to be - taken by the candidates both at the hustings aid in the House, white elected, the better to guard against bribery aid corruption.."—(Haar, bear.)—He should disqualify ill mormiss who bad duties to perform abroad, which wool* include Ambassadors and Military Officers. He bad net. thought it necessary to extend his memir, to Scotland, because a RAI, Priced of his intruded to bring forward a • specific measure applicable to that part of the empire, new to Ireland. But if his Bill was approved of, nothing was easier than to add these two eonnti its. After a variety of other remarks in support of his motion, and replying to the objections nsually advanced oo the side of the present sips. tent, the Hun. Gentleman emieluded by moving, " That ling' House do now resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House to consider the slate of the Represeutation in Eag. lead and WAIN." Mr. S. WHITBREAD rose to second the motion. He fully felt the delimit., of following his Hoa. &hod: It wan not Ida iateatiom to go through the same mrgumients which had been treated with such eloquence by him. He owed it to himself and his commitment, to state, that this House, as new compareed, was not what it ought to be, it was im opposition to the theory of the Constitution, and the re. rated orders of the House. Without treating the sub. jest with any degree of levity, he must say, that this A r ouse stood in the situation of a woman of bad dm- Meter, with whom you might take any liberty bat till her *(her frailty. What was the coudi time of the people ? The ;Solna was covered with Petitions hum all interests represent. iiireheir distress. It was not straoge, when this Homer ad. dodirlos to tax, without sup consideration to dome who maid. Atwater disiiuguisbing atti ibute of this House of Commons will, that many of its Members turned the mosey raised of the irothistryef the people to the aggroadiamest and ca rtels themselves and their families-and depeadasits. The ts of himself or his Hon. Friend might not . from gots( into the Committee. It did IMIFIVIR to bare la m eee thr txp t :dien y t eu to yes pr ni oleng at t e he rei d o u r; eat ..ir . 1 ellt ee th r at that step should be retraced. At all 'dose of NW a power existed somewhere of 'charade; illilrepreasnlionlisMef the people. The rierekbanolng been pai— l. Mr. WILIMOTT opposed the motion. He did no t can. iogive that Key Member was bound to vote fur the Commit. 4110;--after the example of the motion of the Right HON. .viebee for the University of Dublin --develd as ilia plea „i a itsidd Weer the wisdom, and caution, and experience, and secs. which bad marked throughout the whole of the aids. , senhost, from which the country was now respiriag, ilik b. :end by which the liberties of dm world were secured; ,eid if the Executive bad husbanded our resources, thee it .iiimelid•bave bees only to compose • wreath to decorate the limb of our liberties and independence From the be. ;Oat the spirit of Jacubiniem was propagated through Es. ' Igor, he was one of those who thought t h at • standing 'illenty was oecesosry. He anticipated results from theopeead set edseatioa far different from thaw hooked Cue by the Hos. Gundeman. He thought that the people had been long and artfully deluded on the subject of their rights, and partici. lady the imaginary meg of I parliaments and antiersal suffrage. That these had never been the rights of the ;temple, might be proved almost with nistbessatical cer tataty. He argued against the opinion that seminally 'all the freeholders in the County Court voted fur the election of Members of Parliament. An overpowering argument against the Hon. Gentleman's sentiment, respecting thirds:l' ratioe'cif Parliaments, wsa that it was nut =motioned in the Bill . of Rights es a matter of right. Copyholders possessed the right of voting, sod to admit them to it would be are" illlOVlglioo on the Constitution. Even were the rep/mesa tation altered is the manner reeximineudeol, no relief of say centseltiente cooM he afforded to the pecuniary bunting' to thg nation, emmisteetly with the faith pledged to the pub. lie creditor. The difference between theme hostile to all Re. foist sad modelate Reformers was as nothing compared le that between the latter and the sweeping Riforieevs, whit would at ones blot out those institomos which hod grow,. with the nation's growth and strengthened with its strength. He could anticipate teething from this general Iti•fdria'but a' series of internal disquiets, discoutente, mad sedition,. lathe coarse of which our national greats's* and glory would be ime gi and we left in . vain to deplore our past happine s s. Tbedi never no. • time when complahits were not soade' is that country of the decay of liberty, and the corruptor of um. Lendable!. The Hun. Gentleman them read an exiled-, heel a tenet 'published in the year 1689, sat star the thine of the enactment of the Triennial Act ' which exerted trawribv • laughter. It accused both Tories and Whigs, allegiesr e , CO the latter went restive without plac e or p a y me n t , O thepsople ageism choosing the sons of Nobles fur repremisilla % tins. After instituting a compsrioni between this and sevel,, other cmotries, he concluded that more practical frieedibil was enjoyed in this them any other part oil all WegilliMOO (CAserhig.)—He considered the freedom of t grem,..adsh, poisfleatfom of the debates and other cir la oat preateut system as compensation for any popular privilentaft which might have existed in higher vigour at earliee• periods. If the Honourable Gentleman's plan were carried • into effect, no hearing could be obtained to this House by any but Mom espousing the popular side. The bonhomie which the people were now capered, were attributable ma their owe itichseathoss and zeal fur carrying on the lilt' war; of which as iscontestible proof was, that 4ift,ollMffs wee contributed toward* the support of it by volentaryt... malaseripthic After -several other observations the Hoe. Geetletime said he should catielude with *looting the words of a former Speaker of the House, that till hi, dying breath be should never cease to pray for the prosperity of the country, aliethe preauvatnin of the dignity and 'tithe. I :AI, of the House. t. HOBILOUSZ said that the Hon. Gentleman _spoke last thought that nations did not stand i chasm to obtain eoustilutlemal liberty, ohm they •te obtain it by me star from slivery. Ho (Par, 1.441014. did sot think the as applied* be did eat. thlait_ "maven is that situation ; h ow soon we mint be re. OMB to lit wee umber question, to avert which his Hos. Wised bed sow proposed his amities. It was a favourite' topic with • -^' teformers, 0' ... . . - which L., • ; . . : : - - • • 1.41 M t l eibeliti istr l'agfelligholi, le td: 1 16111111111 thabie.llll.lllll id SW Ors VW aid, dot the represeelatins paireige*HALsbeeM sallllllolh . liettlellot Poo IllAbillellboibOs ialoollekoros as ogee* right is .sling dowse the propene Alio pooh that us ilseshetimr showed be stieseptrilt: i toiloirwhiale • *irk lie rqiehlentatine of comities. The priseolpile - et% U.. 4- the somebers of width diet- Hirimteemilseeh s idled chsag is the represeatothe of the people meows. *MN es erne to hineeremiephitoly ben- idler. set. In - the Am IR might be semi by e reforming to varlets Acts of Perikageet: Hemp VI. the Hoset- soneleled 'of only MO le proof of Ibluopllstes M C.'Lsabba hied the Act setting liteere.Vllr. added SI ; *teemed VI. added AM the wages to I. paid to • Member sake Howe of.Cosemelis be had their...sr to represent, Midis tbetiaveter CheifterNT ' bylla constitneste, and the Acts for cook-icing Revenues- come these .4444... ea whit* his flee: Meet bed eirtelle: tine an Irides, the Cessty Potation and City of Chaim observed. Than were she VI/ pieces 'Adds lenwerig. tea and the County sad City of Daring'. He then pro- lofted lideriberei bet frost which rose were seoresteteetd: corded to describe the beads ore hill, which he aid he bed He thought it clear therefore, this thellesie heads eighets PrePand_wll l lho utmost possible poise, is esejseetims legislate epos the f r am e of Peetinenest, Whoorimr- meleetelfir with all ,11 • 11 - Priced I whim 'moistena he eery moth vetoed. pert of it at the uumbee of bleseliete burn f . . H. propoonli thin a divid e Ike onsrey isle dietrke. All to She freeehise, that also had varied; Iherk tonergiese mirreependine to the number of Members for England end semen of places where the nature of theressaldedieel mitt *Ass, iff y lb. efeet of Wink world be to give a reps.- correctly konoww. As to the demise of Phrtilienweleglibollif .rotative to every 2.5,000 people. He should grant a vote is remade it would appear that at het they ohs- seiiihnelko' towel to onry..perses who bed paid direct lases wields silt thew-twic e • y e a r , t h ew Irtesniek and Wetly seplesellik-mo sioallts before and bed sot received assistsare from the that be tire three pest point, is the roeselteilletehelllieles. pose rpada rates, always mieeptieg Whines. The event there wane prieeiple of variabiNty, Thelibliggelit of sem point related to the returning nicer, wises be Partitioned appeared oleo subject to great inerfelleder should propose to be aussally dieted by the people WM sot the miss is the thee of the Plentegesete ash Is" test tbe Needy before Beater. The paned If regnired, time of the Tudors; nor in the Ilene of the lamer as he A* • should be carried en at the principal town of the district period of the Stuart.. Sine the Revolution ales the Alm goring eight boon each :ley, rut a period am longer thee ter of. Parliesiest bed ;materially chested. fn. - shrewd sit dm: the H... 6e.tir,wss them detedatnimenehtf iiis also that the public revenue had always kept pen,eillb— provieWis relative to polliag.henbe, *obese. Ice. HA Bill the somber of statutes against the corruptions of Parham's?: peovidet that all Fenton sibs • sew bad any right o 0 the time of the Revolution the public revenue mho of voting should resale them dueler their line. Is 11,100,000 f. end there were senator. statutes egeitiet . the county re be shield add to the the correptioss of "ornament. le 1791 the Finest electors all . leaseholders, to tire reverts wits esteem .ethos., and the stately. vales tot 40s. s pee. tbe 111111111 A condition cif boldhclesote fteliemesutary - - _ . ogaian . cor;opttoa were stettr greater mu i be ip - d How mach st • be the charge else* when in 1818, we had a revenue of 94,190,00 M..! Wilk : he most papoose tbat lallnevieo is that Hasse lad laideaddl in the same proportion. Ts the indaeoce derived • 'theft ! she great teen' ash, reverse it •be-addel that eilikeir was derived from our poomemieas is the Ease lodlite; Moller the erection of the Board of Coutrol, lied from the timeimMOS Maud duties. Safer, themlbre, from the Pintlamiitat se ancient body, it b e d springy op Rho • arashrottai Vl o! the corniptines of the last twvory years 3 se Hays* ter Omit • inuovating the premien was only a trial be Infos, hash ••4:. Cow jot° :he system, and mike it masethieg 1811 e • rdeefas ' seam toe of the people. Mr. Heeffilimes, who represeacrter Westminster In 1790, hakes the eneeillefot the Sipteialer Bin, stated the toluene of the CritiVrte 41194/Amitmendffff amosmbees, mid 40 yeari Alma a* thi 'Wake ' ' ' be much themes.. What the iellseetesivew wadi Mil t might be formed from the various papers which at chiffon* , tiers were laidon their table. la IftltffirliwieMesin dieted that the Howie at Comma mmeld meet t into • third Relate istispegibta of pahlte.tsphrlea: Thlit.' predietioa hid hoseiestreilyeatilledi aid the ids whdrits Mr. Punt bed said, • Fume a(ftisalatoes la watch the oboe,' of the peepleswas as ariallike.• 110 for from being • bartle•rit•' presetting the penal% shiny • were it fact.. oligarchy, self' was arknowtedgedilmt ?I Prins sod 91 Commune,, weenie Of 300 members to. the Heave. The minstioa, theretirt, • that sight was, whether sorb as ollgardry wee • ionised 'to repreoest Ike people of Ragland'? Hilootooded Itinefi was: The objeet of the Retirement wee the meek We' the' plans were di/fencer. That war a• point whisk via meek carped at, though it shoild- be remembered 'Mat the very same objettion wsi target stalest the' retinae! ties of relief**. The meteoroidsy of the Cattelke wan of. ways opposed to the dilatation 'of the Reformers; bet that did obi prevent the religious Reforesies from triamplmhig in Ilegtaad. He hoped that she Refinmore of the prem.. die' ailed waiveeny petty differences of opiates, sod•eardisfly suite for the &noising that Referee which Mr. Pitt 'ads*: toted is 17911. A despot taight,for his owe interest, gory.' wall; het there was wedding could he said is favour of ad' ellyareby. Tat we were is theory goveneed by as oligarchy; and that sot Otis greet loaded proprietors, for boreaglii• were • peopiely merely seeidental, and shifted heads more ra pidly time meet other species admitted?. A serials stM•wai given fur the'bernagh, which, greenfly speaking, the metier railed epee the Minister for repaymelet. Therefore. though the present holder, of boroughs might be verygood meal (sad hi MK* that misty wet e a that character),' yortas boeintyli steruers, they were In pommies of • laotrapofy lejuriess to the 'ohne 'enemas's. He thought the m ot i on o f his H. : aimorable Friend extremely moderate, since it was dearly peened, as records could prove any thing, Hint the 011Iple were entitled to maul Partismeats, not that he 'stood up to say he would be contented with nothing lees. Before the' lime of Edward 11. Parliaments were :held , twice or thrice a year. He was aware that some bad Itent Med whether the Parliaments were lly chose*, bet thooglit that those who referred t. Pripnes's Register !woad ho satiaded on that brad: la the time of Charles I. the 'erparaetertrequeat Parliameots, far at that- time the tear !was thet we eieselil have ao Parliaments at all. The Hon. IMember here referred to a Isom from Swift to Pope,. iu which he spoke-of the gloriosa, Gothic Isittintion Of ••• Au. sisal Poiliasamine." Hampden, the nephew of the great Men of that swam and . Lord Royeaoad, spoke of them alas as' part of the ameleat Coasthatine. So that had Anneal' Par liaments becalms asked fur it wanW have bees *Wittig spew, nothing but what, &Pontius to the practise *tour mmemetes, we had • rightio•delisad. Act. thetrisaelmise the praetor Mini' equally deer, aolt hi Ilialiyielea ofnuater Roberts's, Bleirei: • stone, sod`Sie' Wm:' Jones, the peopiehoilts right to teepted suer:Oss. sad snarly uoieltrial. flauinel Johnnie, . maw' of great euniukoto at the time of the Rewolistion, bord - Millutp. broke. Lnial'Shafiewhory,And aillievittea is piglet of tse- anal Parliantents, awl is ameremodeen dates, lord Chattsss' had first adeoeased- the eases; *attar him dr. Pitt, bud' akar. Hoes emleamiared to . the wearing' wad' iea the list 'occaMeailbero *pears& the nandistearba • • voted in f Ef it, a great.' ihailitinf succeed term. !greasod liar meatimiiku hart Mit soloilowil grid• to his pis: I eiples. If •he had, his inetoory'woioltt limo brolivelehr•ft4 , ,in the prosperity mid happiness of lisineamiery, lostettitot libetag embalmed is • tavern; It had' bee. said I thee 'atl ine iisss of she great Relsellbea she Howse of Commies 'OW away the King and the• Hower M . 141114 Tree Mel, had; but they were not the Parliament of Hog fond; It was a body of. ma who remained after Colonel Pride's purge, sod *diet intakes eptratioas of • similar ;mature had reduced them to 87 Members, of whom silly If were the rePerenstalAres of comities, so that the alarm oagyst .to be'of a Borough Pireatiedt, and mot one closes by the great mass of At 'people. The feemilyna the Throne costa 4 ,sot be soiree to the metier.. For ohm the Pretender, I. 1745, made his altemill se the Croire i it Is new a well-aseir itilleed feet that be *as &Coiled - by the mojority . olt the ; aiistocraey, bal in klit March from Scotland to Derby, of the people only '3Oll joined his standard: He bad cake. worked ts look to all the usual objections which neve cow , milady urged' against Perticaieutary Reform. There was a week which was considered as a sort of ands swam of contoptlon, purporting to be the speech of a Right How. hasher to his coustitneals. Reignetiug that he should nut have said one word, but that he bad heard it was moan mated and ustassererable. The Right Hon. Author of thige letter &Med, Obit the Home of Contemn was what 'if hod ailwlys heel!. He (Hr. Hobbouse) had esdiavoived to woes ' =as. sot. Agreeiog is opinion with Dr. Pmegleis; lin/ I thought thislhe best of all pose'ble worlds ; amid so it ' wit, according to Candid', exeret to those obb were bayoneted, or bed the steno au-1 gravel. The %lght Reintorable Author amid; that as martin red loletenanie of seiditiest betneen the coasliruent and his geprila-, live wee esseutial. Now that was exactly what • Ito wished fee, bit where was the Whitlow*e of aratimeat het Vera tOe iiillilltilest 'and the representative of the fairy rims of Old 'Bettor ? Would the Member go is the woods and wilds to 1 laquire of the 'nymph Hyoid resketing lie principles of legislation. The bribery of electors was ailed by Lord ' Coke and Joie Locke poistiniag the fiontala of jiielice; bet it was • discovery of asodera times that Ala sort of poi. moats( was a very good tbiag, sad caused the' stream 'to In replete with health. It wee said that the system was good, as it admitted many clever tam to that (louse; bin Chit was beside the purpose; what eras ',analog 'was' mieti'lot speak the sentimeets of the peop!e ; and se it bist.'berei whit -- - - - rahsuldeel, it -- Anon! - to '' Wks if ' twee of heard 'Mit ' amid Alliance, which be ',Wad stil.tito bpi chweringl.-for it tiara "am biro I m r .Gooca 4404 leave ft, any.lh Itistryetit proper to Wiest Mai mat gave tilt h his fluty to pratirist it to i could not ropesr is its plifeatenta ;11isit, Member fur NeeLJli, in Made use of the 'sprang's, " it ;" prate., Oat Volt. Aft. Jedfpinderie by the. nnetber of tie saust ackiowlcie hli infetieriay; Pinciplrs or of oondret hi Would iniber for Norfolk, nor 14 icy ma *ad. soppostirl 'the reseal Ministers Propriety of their asoBllllltlN cod fret bled mewl fisheries nrcrired ally fare ititientllnto the right of petitionini distal bet to Maio to the House wits nod Creganlteni did- not eons,. It .tat Nohifity, Gentry:. grrgy, sod he,, were aihue l to it the manses I *Afar be eitirrinqieJ the highest tel the nnetler of Noblemen is I tiro, dime shre*, lietcrver hasp** to expriii the sentintrota of the Mr. C(.l--..B4EN,;;,ii;;;;;;;;;eouute we lt , end pot . o f the country b e a t tr ib u t e d ? w e bad a nation• she spirit Of. the Cosatiation that the decayed and de. topic with Anti-lerfereurra, that public opisio• ;87 a et:e: 411asid tint;;;;ltieet,; w e, alia7rillt7l leek In the seised sample means of observation, and he would venture to debt of eight hundred millions—an stinuat taxation boroughs shwa continue to ha ►epreseald ? rectiet to the evils which the corruptions of Parlianseat eneellenee of pest kWh' if _ll man* or your ern, was say that use of 10,000 freeholders, 0,000 would at any limetights might to, h• 'bobsled, *gin atomism. Bat it venue( the proper office of 'ohne puieted against yourself. Ire ►ad heard that It ' b■d bees system of taxation molt Desert boughs thSt their be employed idtliat correction. As to the right mid, that is ' Shut Mewati - dethamtgacd NMI& their proper lie found to declare in favour of Reforam.--(Hsar.) severity — a sinking* fund reduced bwa l" 414 .01 FPNIP I O •ef II " " r " gi' Corrupt 1M 11" all opinion in i Mr. WALLACE said, be else as a freeholder of Cam- o b r ut n i ft n Y c . r m ea il . lions— in ii .„ of ceameee,And WHIM eat think "Ha Kr. Pitt, that gm/ to usivereal softer, enough had be thought been said by level' in 011 Ise*lbei' ale. lied If refers should I•ke Piece compeautioa should be given to ibms pigeon, wilt. this his Hon. P►ied•(Mr . Lanais%) to 'onetime , every woe. It ie weitee be oleiseere N:peodree ' a•'atat'ef eatbrillftelib; It • herl■sd, begged leave to deny t h e unanimity or the county to a mere too sill e r iery-a trade impaired end crippleu, ai favour of Reform. gbg •gricaftural citadel piiiitioniirg the Must fot white slave trade should be abolished, Surety it could mot was an observation of Hume's, t►at the system of the Cu. fur the use of the &margins. With respect to the kites : 1 ; • ' ' . I. ', • I I