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• Lee. 1/11, ven try, 1 4 .45 i 1.3 or w. r4l 4160.: 1 17;%4 el ill .r.. 0; ,44,- NUMBER 1586.) IMPERIAL P.IRLI.IMEN T. HOUSE OF LORDS, Fes. 3. A Petition was preset ted to the Homo by the, Agent of Sir Joh , . Gimlet, praying the Appeal Cagier, Gould q. Lear ley, might be pootomied until ueNg &widow, to allow the Appellant time to produce the nect &malarial; to antabliiii Ins twee. The Await fur the Respnweletarefilsed o consent, sad Mated, that the cause had been six yearn before the House. —The Petition wag refined. Lord AUCKLAtiD fermented& Petition on the pert of Sir James Inns ker, praying that their lAnliships smolt he graci ou sly plesneti to !she hHo cousideratios ds different Appeals presented in coasevortice of the decision of the Coon of SrMOll in Scotland, with respect to the claims to the title and estates of lioaburgh. The N obit: Baron uteted, that Kir James trines Kee wan Matured to present tide Pe titio• to their Lordships ea account of his age, Nein: he would not tretve their deeisiim, and that, in such tsar, be ',, cos h& inaJo nu provision for bid ready 4141 therefore booed, that the Hems,: would ollig a little of its time to the im portant COS, and, as in ev‘rf Wag. get with that jesters 'Melt always characterised their LeedeLeps, and stet they would tithe the cme into cOusicleratiuu to. the all cor . t t ia bat, when the Petitiory would be provided with sc Counsel to support his claims. ale LOKI) CUE% et:U.oa wen slot salaema to the except from the nit saber of appeals that had been wok; then Lordships' consideration for throe soropal yeam;. t ec h ; h e held fu his hand a list of eppeski from the berets) • Casrb etGstat Rrtitai.t, innimatimg to Itig in sandier, and if those app-ale were taken:out of their ordinary Amuse, it would be didayiug otbeut ,(bat mace fur a longer period before their Lordships; sod wOnld be &pining &MAW wise omens of admiinstrneg justice to all. The Pail of LAU DIM DA L Gsupported thePetitien, tin the petards that there am a Peerlige attached to the appeal, which would cane brMe the Committee of Privileges, aM shirk they einl.! not decide on without the appeal being Ent heard. The LORD CD ANCELLCIIIt thosibt that the Petition aright be metered .to the Committee of Privileges, who might berm id tbsy abonght necessary, every port of the Unison , disclaimed biture them Lord AUCKLAND morel, sThat the Petitimt might be referred to flee Camminttee of Privileges, ;Ind taken into run . Merinos um Teselaes sod FeJoys, *hick was agreed to by the liosse."--Ataanial‘ HOUSE OF COMMONS. At es earl hear this its, the Horse and sec tors to it sod the were extremely crowded. The Speaker G o a she • at • winter before tour o'clock. Lan Mitt.,. anotod a petition from the debtors embed Is the pow of the West RWurg of the comity of, Y.a, whin was *Final to lie on the tahle. Mr. ROSE moved the Order of the Da• for the House 1410hriDIC Ravi( lain • Committee Cr tht American Treaty, which woe agriv4 to. The several Resu'utiois were thou read, the Douai resumed, mid the Report as ordered to be received haselevrow. Mr. ROSE gave notice that lie would, In m tge .:e ' e n , of sew repteseliguiuns Ludy mid, to the Howse, bring in g Bell far the better n,ulation of the alike of Tressaree of the 7,. Hoidens hid hero.. the Howse the l'orreeportd esee ertieliliad take a 1.1.te betweas the Find Lord of the Treeeery, the Chum. • r of the Enbequei, and the Bask of ' ilbminad; Pa pursismde ofihe notice of no Hen Weireher. it& Rose .brought pp a Dill for the fakeer mantillas of , the Trade that map be carried on beano this canny sad tbeleseilie • .Read a had, Am% and oteleted be be eimiks• • The Rothe edffilfred into • Committee of Wove and Mews ' • in which, ea the mediae of Mr. IitSILISSON, the several Knelt:tine ware read and agreed to, the Hotme re sumed, and the Rep. rt or ordered to be received tudisoneer. The cHANcEt Loa of the EXCHEQUER mend, Thet in consemooke of Wednesday, die 17th of February mad, being find for a Gearral Fast, a sermon be preached berwe this House eu the said day."--Ordered. Sir CHABLIS POLE fuze in comequenee of a notice he had give • oii to move • the Haase foe leave to bring in • Bill fur anteng s an Act passed in hat &salam i , for the better repletion of the Naval Asylum. He said he cou ceived It was absolutely necessary the Bill should enter ion a description and designed - ma of those persons who it was intended should till the offices of the establishment and that superannuated o ffi ce*, and their relations and relicts should, on ail occasion, have a pretense* ; god that thia amid, os strictly as possible, be (*minded with. He re. that one particalm enactment of the sew Bill that nth offingra or others whir had served in H.. *mid, with theigdescendants or relics, be petitioner, ellidervr. He was induced aspen/ =lt es this diellgillos in their favour, both Iseeri the • useggeigglien••••dl his ksoiriedge of the of tenlinewilleedistga Ilwanded es this gnat sad ha- Ilesseable elan, hatt met with from the Coatasissioutheas• Petted with the regulation of this iestitution. Mr. ROSE said, that the Honourable Baronet had for pees the principle on which he first set cut ; in pro . page( this Bill to the House, he had intended them to adopt each regulation aa would establish it nearly on the principles of the Lord Military Asylum, and add to the hadinstion a Chaplain, with an •appietpriate ttlary. But the Honinnahte Baronet would, in p.theeding accog i i:L i t; libt statement, ultimately deprive the Olsen of the it at present enjoyed-.that ut recomenaledigg to elenalliseal nom each priori as might appear descent:. He seated le bad the honour to he • Commissioner, and hail serer bacon an instance of a failure in an application from thaw connected with the service, except in &ewer of gams oleo is the aer•ta. a He, theierflont, contended, it ble needles, to fond a gialative Act on an alleged which be hyped, for the honour of the coastry, placed so such an high situation of trust, would neer exist. Mr. WINDHAM ohanveil, that in minim fent the Royal Military Amylase to the Navil Asylum, the Right Mao. Condemn had award as if there existed a parallel in the Government of the two estaltlisbesents. Certainly, (rum what he had beard of both, be behaved, that the reproach of resemblance in emadoet to the Government of the Naval Asylum, did sot, nor ha hoped ever would, apply to the Commisnioners of the Royal Military Apylom. Mr. THORNTON rase to state he was a Commitsiomar of the Naval Asylum, and imagined the Hoc. Barnet la boured staler a nrisapprelieninda ; fur, during his coatis.- nes he allot, be had never aeons say immure wherein those who had been employed is the navy had uot received • sassederitied preferene. Lord ,NEWARK supported this statement from his own knowledge of the solekth. Ole JOHN WIDE, Mr. LONG, Sir EVAN- NEFEAN, sneer. FRANKLIN, addreesed the House On the propriety of the proposed bill ; and -w CHARLES POLS Posed bid intention of taking the sense of the Hone, were he eves to stand aloft in the division. &a we, ware then direrted by the Speaker to Withdraw, sad s *vision ordered. But ou the raggestiuo of his friends, h CHAILF.S POLE. dee!i!ted pressing the Houle on tho widisal Notion, and said he should be content with movie% tome reeehltione for the pu. Wee of obbisisig for the House ext inform:thou. The resolutions were then put, la sae of w sane of the members dissenting with the Haeinsislikt Bar;imes,lnt agni.i called fora daisies. After tt sossidgesbie terse spent in esdaswoaring to clear Ike Galls% Asa was unusually cauuthul, the CHAN (7EL -I.IIH. of the EXCHEQUER addressed the Howse in sooner fo the etymons, sag veprotagisi the ResAttiotte, of the Km &roast, when the Howls These appeared, Ayes 7G-1 as I erity sisals' the hieusao tS i3r.rt%) I FEURCARY 4, 1808. COPENHAGEN ExPETNTION: Mr. PONSCON'IIt rose, at half-past ~ix, and ad dressed the Si:tester, • and the House; as. follows.: ." Mr. Speaker—Sir, in rising to make the nio tion, of which I had the honour of giving notice to the !louse, the objects which I have principally in vieww-nre to ascertain how far His Majesty's Misters were* j'attlfied in starisiirg 'His Niajost to employ his usvarand military force on the data Es pedition against Copenhagen ?' That this is a loth ject that petnliaill "demands the 'attentive inquiry of this House, t tini authorised in stating, iron the Declaration issued by .His M*lty himself, be cause, the first clause . .ku that . - Itiration. is, that His blajesty vwc to himself; and- to Europe, a frank expesition of the motives which have. dictated his late measures iu the Baltic; I have therc. fore rothority, Ms less than from the Crown it self, for stating that this matter peculiarly demands .the attention of Parliament ; and, is die brit place, iu order to ground. dot. inquiry, .to eat/ fin' rproduetion of all ingeatatiou that may exist, enter to justify thot expedition. It is sesseely Ablasary Air me to say, Wm, that when I speak of Olll , Deciaration issued by His Moir-sty,' or when 1 - apirlik of . the Speech of the Louis Coaun i::sioners tielireved from the Throne, upon the first day of, the present Session of Parliament, 1 ' &peak' in the parliamentary lang•iage, usual upon sorb beet. mons, and mean to look upon them as the •Mese sures of His Majesty's Miiii.ders, and not of' His Majesty himself 1 would find it extremely dif , ferent indeed, if I were speaking of His Majesty personally ; because I look to the transaction itself to be one as opposite to the innate rectitude and integrity of His Majesty'* owo mind, es it has been derogatory to the .honnor of his Crown, and the interest of 14s dotniaitins.. Sir, in order to consider .this 'entject Maturely, it will he necessary to inquire tint, ahat the disposition of Denmark has 6een towards this cowl : . try ? Secondly, what has been thetoi.dnet of Rus sia ? and next, what the means were that Prance pmsessed for executing the projects which the may have entertained hostile to this country in the Iln)- tie ? i say hostile to this country, for as.to the dia position of frame, it would be idle and foolish in any limn to inquire into the fact of Frame being so. Every man mint be aware, that tit? disposition of the present Ruler of France is, to eNct all the means in his power to overwhelm us with destruc tion.—(Hier ! Hear! Hear !) -But, in order to ascertain, with exactness, bow flir this Expedi tion against Copenhagen is justifiable, it is necessary to consider not only the disposition of the Ruler of the French, hut the power and the means lie possessed of carrying his tillesitt inteo timpi in this pint:calm iastatAptlolmestitelettn--- In drowinettifllabirmitßadiau — illtas iibittillb pro- paae,l ea alyvelf -nada" the is&Oesify of Oit3g pretty far buck in regard to time. There is, m the Urelurution, a clause to this effect, " But His 111ajasty conid not but reeollect, that when, et the close of the former war the Court of Denmark en gaged in a hostile eonfeilentey against Great Bri toil', the apology offered by that Court for so un justifiable an abandonment of a neutrality which His Majesty had never ceased to respect, was founded upon its avowed innhilitv to resist the operation of external influence. and the threats of a formidable naval power." • I hate, therefore, formed a Resolution, for the purpose of receiving the substance of the information made known tO His Majesty's 1115uisters, in emminunitatiidis from the Court of Denmark, towards the close of last war, as to that Court engaging in a Confederacy against Greet Britain, which had been alluded to in the Dec Lifatioa published in December, 11307. 1 have already made some inquiries uimn that sub ject, end 1 am informed that the Court of Den mark never did mnke any such representation to this country, that she never did send us an apology • for the abandonment of her nentrality, founded inion the threats she had experienced from a great nei„rhbouring pott.•l I am, however, desirous to know the truth of this feet ; and w hat possible objection can there be to the production of a docu ment shriving the hostile conduct of Denmark to wards this country upon a former OCCIVIIOII ? The event has passed no less than flee years 'ago, and canard possibly lead to any dangerous conse quences from tie dioelosureoi any'ser.tet source of 1 information, or to any other tendency in which the Declaration itself does uut involve us. 1 really look upon it to be totally unfounded in point of fact. I nay, however, bin', been deceived by the infor mation I have procured, and therefore in order"to prevent all tuisuudenitanding upon this particular part of the subject, 1 have shaped a Revolution for the purpose of proving whether Denmark did really make such an apolo-y for her conduct or not. I have drawn up other Resolutions fur the purpose of ascertaining what intbnnstion was re-' cowed in this country with respect to the conduct of Denmark, regarding her naval foree. I have desired that all Reports made by the King's Resi dent at Copenhagen to His Majesty's 1 11inisters, during the course of last year , rehitive to any steps 'taken by that Court for the purpose of auginentitig its marine, for putting it in a state of more formidable preparation, or for manning that fleet, which we lave taken, should now be laid before us. The reason why I • do this is, because every body must conceive, that ' if Deumark was entertaining within heriselfW hos tile temper towards this country, or was predis , posed to fall into the views of Frunee, or those of 'Aussie, she would undoubtedly have batten some steps towards putting her force into a state of art ' tiny. This is rendered die more prohalde, she's we consider what has been the practise of Den mark in regard to her marine upon former ores . IMons. It has been, and is still this—her sailors arc all obliged to inscribe their loners in • certain office, so that the Government of the country knows at all tunes very nearly to Amount of the number of sailors nithin iU dualittiaus. When their *llion' are about to go out of Denmark, they are also obliged to state in what ship they go, and to whet place bound, so that the Govern ment are (babied to know not only theriunount but even • the partienlar distribution of them, in the various parts of the world to which they may have Sailed, for the purposes of mercan tile transactions. The great number of their sai fors thus employed in mercantile voyages,rendors it impossible fox that • Power to man a very consider tole fleet for hostile purposes at a short notice.— It is not with' Denmark as with England, where, from the multitude of her sailors, - mid the mogul tnde of her marine, she can sweep such a number of hands en board her ships of war within a very few weeks, as to enable- her-to send to sea a very great • fleet in a short period, while Denmark minims it great time to do •ao. if, therefbre, Denmark meant any' thing . liiajitikALlsoraelf So- wards this coastal, had Vie intended to fit out any mitritiiiie - carve against va, it seeing to be itopos:: table to conceive, that she should not have giveh by her actions sane kind of iuti'mation of that secret-lurking intention, long before the period of • Lors)....4.3amber's arrival in - the Sound. 1 ask, • therefore, .if our Minister at that Court tent any , 1 a'lvice to the Ministers here, that Denmark was taking soy steps such as those I have described ? —His !Majesty's Ministers have refused to give this piece or information ; but I hope the llonse will not go along with them in Such refusal. I also ask for all the Reports made in the coarse of last year by our Naval Oflicers with ref•peet to the navy of Copenhagen, because, during that period, it cannot have escaped the no tice -of any roan, that scarcely did a week pass, that Officers of knowledge and experience in the service of this • country did not nil through the one way or another, on eecnuut of iair intercourse with Sweden, Russia, and even with Prussia herself, before her posier was demolished. It is hardly possible, therefore, to imagine, that arty Kb:pc token by the Cbtfrt of Copenfiagehlor inoreaung its naval farce, could have escaped the 4totitte of oar vessels, thus parting and repotting. 'lf any pre . naration did arttrallv take place, it-Mast Jure hewn in the view of them all ; and if this infor motion be withheld from me, to what am 1 to presume that denial is to be ascribed ? The only reason I can assign for it, is, that no such preparations artually existed, and that Govern ment had received no advice whatever upon the subject, because there was no information to give, ' If Madders still persist in such refusal, I am jus tified In draivina-this conclusion; that neither the nor any naval or this country. I have inquired what the entwine cif Denmark wow with regard to her own ships in our ports, and the valuable cargoes an hoard of those ship_, even at the very time you were fitting out yoar expedition against Copenha gen. I have learnt, that many Danlsh Cawains hearing the common rumours that were going alined, that this expedition - was as likely to go against Copenhagen as any otter place, applied with the utmost ensiety and unensi nets to thef)anish Consul here, to know the truth of what they had heard, mud to learn the mode in which they shoed conduct themselves. lie made immediate appli cation to the Council of Commerce at Copenhagen, a Council, I understendorlileh is reckoned a branch of the Public Actenintitnition of the Government of that country ; and he received fur answer, from them, that there was not the smallest ground for anxiety or alarm to the Danish mercantile intereet; that no eircumstance existed likely to disturb the neutrality of Denmark, or that could cause the slightest hostility between the two coun tries. There were at that time no fewer than 350 'l)atiiiti ships, with cargoes on board to the amount of two millions of money, lying in our pets. (Hear! Hear • Herr !I Aud now, 1w it possible to suppose that the Danish Government meant to act hostilely against England, when its Consul its this eonntry allayel the fears and anxieties of the Danish Cal - tains here, by sienrin.; them that his Govern anent had interacted him id say to them, •• Hari no fear, no anxiety ; hasten not to Denmark, remain where you are or, in other words, that the Danish Government did not mean to act hostilely against England? Win it in order to give Eiv;land a blow, that the Dines put into our hands nearly a third part of t!te whole of their mercantile marine ?—(llear I Hear II It is not therefore credible that Denum-k entertained any hostile disposition in herself against this coun try at that particular time. But it may be said, that although Denmark entertained no hostile disposition in herself at that time, yet she was likely to (*forced intosuch a situation whenshe could not resist the pressure, and that therefore this country was justified un acting hostilely against her without any pattiettlar information to operate at a *a on for - inch conduct. If our con:luct was to be ju ti tled upon that ground, it was merely iu anti cipating the views of Frain e with regard to the Danish marine ; for, I believe that no man who has written upon the law of nations, or has thought upon any laws at all, nor any man who has in his niisid or understanding any principle of law or justice, can suppose that any power has a right to take from another its means of defence, merely becatwe it conceives that another power is determined to be beforehand with it.—(/fear! Ilea? ! Hear !) Therefore the juitification of the conduct of this country mast rest upon the net**. sity of the case, and that necesaity must arise from these circumstances—the weakness of Denmark, or her indisposition to controut the greater strength of the powers intending toilet aainst Ler, axed the certainty that she most yiel d therm Now, from all these cirentistances, I think there is not the slightest shadow of proof that Den mark was likely to yield to that acialk.leracy, SIXPENCE. which, it has been said, was in the contem plation of certain powers to cuter into; nor is there the Iniallest'shadow of proof that she was likely to yield to their threats. In order to deter. mine this iratter, it is necessary to consider what are the means that France possessed to accomplish her purposes. I have shaped one of my Resolutions so as to inquire what representationa were, made to the King's Goveronieut in this coiling, with res gerd to the means which France had of puttiag her• self in possession of the Danish navy ; for, I pro. - mine, that if Ministai krieti that France intended to possess herself of that navy, they were nut so neglr.en, tof their duty as . not to inquire into the power she possesid to execute that intention. At the time that Lord Gambier sailed to the Sound, the principal part of the Llanish. forernir einatmpecl io frioistein, - tifid also* very 'irii•iich force was stationed' neat:the aid therefore that situation of the tw Rued no disposition in Denmark t 0.,) pretetisione of . France; for if she i disposition t o rid to, it was not nem ounce a • force in oppoaitiou to the Fa The question then comes to be this, French force, supposing it ip action s stein and Jutland, was sufficient to Mark to yield to the inclinations of Fre apprehension, it was utterly insure such. piirpitse; for let 'us consider thi Denmark. ,ft is a e c T er possessing extent of country,. Avon what may I main Continent of Europe, a very fi: territory in- fleistein std .lutlaiA---1, seines whetittleueli inore valuable .to Norway,' biiii4en all the Dani,li islani Which her cliiiiititl ;Mends. Add. 4tl reign colonies. If then Prance, said - try in, }one fleet, ant enter into hostil Groat 13ritaitt"-Denmark might..l ed—tt You a4c me to do a thing teary to thy true interests. In the ' •viiu hare no right to "do so, bec;iu Crary to all Lear and justice • but if pet me to. niake a choice between' and the friendship bt England, I:will salty in preferring the preservation e ship of England, because she crNi till of security of which you .ean iteeir hut if I quarrel with England, 'Eng] from me alt illy my colonial posse my trade and marine ; and. even at! I territcry, and may be the means 6! anion with Sweden against me, so toe of •Notwity,: 1. thefottr,4lviarit interest to' keep' tho 4 possei.iont>i ... which you or other d Mr. Pomo ! • Denmark, if the had not forced her into then be said, why did not since that was proffered as ha. that hostility with us, awl into I answer, that you merle no for any independent Power to Hear i )—lf e assimilate each a - life, and 'oppose that you bed mad, position tdany Gentleman in this lit. not have been regarded in any other lib downright insult. What was it ? Ent. liance with Eligland, because the enetay c. mid you will have the friendship of England, order to poseas that friendship, you most *ea yourself of all piwer,, arid in order to t. that we can put very little . faith in you, alma take aft your fleet, so that you mak divest yourselves of all that belongs to you as independent nation. You 'must ratify your isWir reproach, and then we will eater into alliance with you. I say that no power ou the face of the mirth ever did, nor ever will, enter into a compliance with such a proposition ; for nothing short u: ab solute conquest cede to such terms. poses of compelling herself inclined • • lug posscrted of ► passed over troops Danish fleet. consulted honks, the possibility r (union; but • I force haying upwards of one may state, that it has very v eras Belt ripen the cold does nbt any piece, 'at coimtries, aft+ building etEtites, as to admit the - parent changes within the last of the sea, in Imolai with is it with his al actually was t., pegs an k Gent. npposite wrap 4.4,000 1) Swedes, natty 65,00 men ; wag poga'l6l • ' acirciate to If t hen the . will say . that !toing into if the I)sties we.-e disposed, thy *4O cptilit leitt kept tlsetb out thetaylipt„ ltrsitlr+ the 11:,nish tnerine,. their . :tar also the $a ecli3ll tiering Met to wait tit 11044 IL-6 . . lent ever could compel a power to ac- terms. What mems then did France Impelling Denmark, if she was not a ,ed - to yield to he: ? It is said, that he- of-Holstein and Jutlaad, she might over trays to take poliv!ion of the t. Now I have made taquiry, and inks, in order to get information Si its of patting inch a plan into eae- I can (Ind no instance of a unlit:ay passed tile Gri4sit Belt upon t e ice for rte hundred and fifty ycari. In fact, 1 hat nn finch thing his§ happ-Led ; and rarely occurred of late: yearn, that- 'brats have been atilt to • pats the hr ice; for we al! know Well, that the it depend entirely Upon' the degree cif na to latitude. The itnptcrregieuts of nett as draining them, erect ng fence:. ilk-es, and opening entamnotatlons sn the sun and air, all tend to er et op- 'gm in the climate. I may as , sot century there has I arm to i stem e in that quarter of the tvorld , kngao ice as to e nable a general toils seir irm But let us siippom that 4. e s afrost an intense stn ktilfe 'IA' army army over the DetlVl . hh 94. Rite (Mr. Canning) Md mid Le ) Miles inteabind, andlikestri.;- ally ut, act, isialt . ..ns la all a for::e n ; and does any man irnaitnie that • to get an attni ennve ram I'r.iuce 0 combat Wll3ol;ich nn inn ? e rround'irjg, net Ikortki OTP ,hat the Mock had tl e p.).•er of ) 2e land by . any other ni an., for Iltitt%)b TItURSDA' MI. lap. Nvty Ws, St. Iler„ ter, ick ales lir, r in • S.. Ni lea ady syis bett 7al. CIIIMP iuu. Wit Pro— des- 014 risk m uss his k'd• Me Me- NY. swab ,fir r lip az lOM 1 lig nil on% reed, very pry g his ea aft toad take bite t fAc 'WOO ; ish • )cE. MB! eke's t the 14, by , A.:4: .