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I T *it . ~ , • . . i ', , , I t , .',. ~ , t. 4 1 i 1$ i , 4 t i IT, )3-Ni 4 • I EL '~ +~ PARLIAMENTARY INTELLIEBNCE. DOUSE OF WEDS, MONDAY, MAY 2. COMMISSION. The Soya) Assent was given by Commission to the King's Per sonal pr o pe r ty fill, the Bankrupt Laws Amendment Bill, the Theastraing Letters Bill, the Seamen's Wages Bill, and the Inn keepers' Allowance Bin; and also to the Royal Exchange As- PUISIIOI Company Bill, and several Private Bills. The Lords Commissioners were, the Lord Chancellor, the Mar. quis of Winchester, and Earl of Shaftesbury, Mr. Maling presemwd certain Returns from the East Country Docks. Mr. Tooke presented a Copy of the Expenses for erecting the St: Katharine's Docks, and also of erecting the Collier Docks in the Isle of Doge. Mr. Stuart Wortley, and other Members from the (louse of Commons, brought up the Game Laws Amendment Bill, ar.d se veral Private Bills, which were read a first time. EQUITABLE LOAN BILL. Lod TORRINOTON presented three petitions in favour of the Equitable Loan Bill ; one from Spitalfields, another from the worts. men of the London Decks, and another from those of the West India Deeks—baid on the table. Lord DACRE wished to know from the Noble Earl (louder. dale) why he moved on a previous night for tatain Papers relative to the Equitable Loan Bill, and what purpose it was intended thaw papers should serve. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, he had moved for them merely to become better acquainted with the nature of the Aiwocia tion. The Noble Earl then moved for a certain Paper relative to the Equitable Loan Company, pub' -hed in the newspapers, by autttonty of the Directors, since the bth November last. Lord DACRE hoped that no order would be made for the pro. duction of papers which might be published under the names of the Directors, and might not proceed from that Company as a body. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, that the paper to which ne alluded was published in the public papers, headed " Equitable Loan Company," and it animadverted on the conduct of Parlia ment as it related to this subject. He was not disposed to make ally observations, further than to say, that the parties spoke of proceedings in that House, as if Parliament were under the control of those corporate bodies. This he thought very improper ; but if the paper to which he alluded were produced, then the motive that gave rise to it might be ascertained. His own conduct had always been uniform, and would continue so. Nothing that the Directors could do would have the effect of altering it. Lord DACRE hoped the Noble Earl would not press tbe Di. rectors of this Company to say whether or not they had signed an essay in the public papers, which might have been inserted by some adversary. He was sorry to see the Noble Earl so warm in his op. position to the Directors. Lord SUFFIELD said, he believed there was not in the coun try a more respectable body of men than the Directors of the Equitable Loan Company. Among them there were several Mem bers of Parliament, and one person who, from his situation, must be supposed to know more of the effects of that Company than almost any other person. Ile alluded to Sir Richard Birole. • police magistrate, whose character stood deservedly high. He (Lord Suffield) did not, however, mean to oppose the production of the paper for which the Noble Earl (Lauderdale) had moved. The LORD CH A NCE LLO it said there were various other Insti tutions connected with the question of the legality of the Equitable Loan Company, the legality of which Companies was not so clear. He &geed in the opinion that there was no man more respectable than Richard Dania, but in consequence of the nature of his official st:uation, he did not think him the most fit person to act as a Director of the Equitable Loan Company. Petitior.s in favour of the Equitable Loan 8111 were then pre. eer.ted ftom the Watermen of London by Lord EXMOUTH, and from Deptford. A petition against the Equitable Loan Bill was presented by ere Earl of EtiItE3IONT, from the Pawbrokers of Brighton. The petitions wcre laid on the table. CATHOLIC CLAIMS. The LORD CHANCELLOR presented petitions against the Claims of the Catholics, from the parish of Leyton, in the county • eznffulk ; from the inhabitants of Royston, and from those of Betterwick, near Boston, in the county of Lincoln. Lord KENYON presented a petition to the same effect, from thwestry, which, the, Noble Lard observed, was voted at apublic and contained the signatures of 629 persons. • Lend ICING said, that be hoped the petition was respectably signed. He knew that in many instances petitions had been filled ty schoolboys, but to this he did not so strongly object as to the signature of the hangman of a certain town, which he understood As_' been affixed to a certain petition that had been presented to the House. Lord KENYON said, that he knew the petition was respectably air: ed. Lord KING then presented a petition from Oswestry, signed by the Mayor, by several Aldermen, and the moat respectable inhabi. tants of that town, in favour of Catholic Emancipation. ' The Earl of EGRE3IONT presented a petition against the Claims of the Catholics, from the Dissenting Congregation of Union-street, Brighton ; and two others to the same effect from other congregations in the same town. , The Blarquis of WINCH ELSEA presented a petition to the same effect, from Ashby de.la.Zouch. Tee Earley DARNLEY repeated the observations he had made on a preceding bight, relative to the petition presented against the (;kaires of the Catholics, from the Clergy of Ely. Ile noticed it e.ow, as he perceived the Lord Bishop of Ely was in the House. The Bishop of ELY said that the petitioners had expressed themselves strongly. and were justified in so doing. Lord DYNE% OR presented a petition a:;ainst the Claims of the Catholic*, front Carmarthen. Lord t;AWDOR said that every exertion had been made to procure signatures to this petition. Lord DY NEVOR said that the petition, he knew, wes signed by several of the most respectable men in the county. lie could not however say how those signatures were procured. Lord CAWDOR then presented a petition in favour of the (;laitr.s of theCatholies front the same town, signed, he observed, by all the dissenting Clergymen resident there, with the exception of the Methodists, _ _ The lilarquis of DOWNSIIIRE said that he had a petition to present, from the large, respectable, and increasing town of ltelfast, in favour of Catholic Emancipation. He would, however, defer presenting it until the Bills in progress through the other House were brought before their Lordships. The filar . quis of Salisbury presented a petition against Catholic Emancipation from Barking in Essex. The Earl of FA L3IOUTH presented a petition of a similar nature from the Vicar, Churchwardens, and inhabitants of Green- Lam. in the county of Beth ; and another from the borough of Truro, in the county of Cornwall. Tile Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition to the same fere: from the independent congregation of Betesford-street, Wal. worth. The petitions were laid upon the table. GAME LAWS AMENDMENT BILL. lard DACRE_gare notice that he should move the second read. id, of the Game Laws' Amendment Bill this day week. Lari GROSVENOR presented a petition from certain inhabi. t tr.ts of the city of Westminster, praying for the extension of the Dill to ineve.:t cruelt ts? arAtxials = i 2 siq on the table. It 1)!%1BINATION LAWS. Lord C ILTEIOIIPE presented a petition from the master nisau:s..ettirers of Birmirgham, against a repeal of the Con:bins t.al taws.—Laid on the table. ATTORNEY CERTIFICATE BILL.• Lord KENYON presented s petition from the attorneys of the city of Westntinster, against the Attorneys' Certificate 11111.—Laid on t!:e table. Lord Palmerston, and several other Members from the House of Commons, appeared at their Lordships' Rar with a request that their Lordships would he pleased to allow Lord Carbery to attend as a whness to be examined before a Committee of Inquiry into the state 0: !:eland.—Leave given. The !louse then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, 'Moitomr, MAY 2. At. four c'clock the SPEAKER returned from the House of Lords. and informed the House, that he had heard the Royal As sent Riten by Commission to the Royal Exchange Assurance Bill, all also to stveral Private Bills. BASINGSTOKE CANAL,. The Sherif% of the City of London appeared at the Bar with petition from the Lord 3layor, Aldermen, and Commons of the (it y of London, against the Basingstoise Canal Bill. On the cation of Mr. Alderman WOOD, the petition was or. eared to be referred to the Committee on the Bill, COLLIER DOCK, ISLE OF DOGS. TLe Sheriffs of tee City of London oppeered at the Bar with • ut y lL i on f r om the Lord Mayor. Aldermen, and Coalitions, of the of London, against the Bill fer forming Collier Docks in the Isie of Doge. 4.l4lartuin WOOD, in moving that the petition be referred to Ile Committee on the Rill, said, %hen it was first introduced it eoinaiced a clause, making it compulsory on all colliers to enter the Docks; that stoat obnoxious clause was since withdrawn, and the pertionets, in consequence of that alteration in the Bill, did not amyl to oppose it, except so fat as regardtd the preservation of thrt ngbts. Refetred to the Committee on the Bill. BERMONDSEY eom, DOCKS. The Sheriffs of the City of London prevented a similar petition agau.st the Bermondsey Coal Docks flilL—lteferred to the-Cern:- sante., on the Bill. EDINBURGH AND GLASGOW CANAL. Sir R. - FERGUSON presented a petition from a ce rtain indi vidu•l against the Edinburgh and Glasgow Canal Bill.— Referred to tine Camrr.itteemi the Bill. fiREENOCK HARBOUR. Mr. KENNEDY moved the second rcading of the Grcennck Harbour Bill Mr. J. MAXSVKLL said, he received a petition numerously alga respectably signed, against the Bill. lie was most anxious tied it should not pass ; it gas got up in an underhand way, for tlie purpose .0 gifing patronage and undue Influence to certain in. d:viduals. Ile tringed the BM would be %loch& narrowly in it, furthei pregre..s Oling,' the House, and particularly by those • I,n bad the management of our naval afain. After a few wot is front Mr. KENNEDY in reply, the Bill was reed a wad tin ordered to be committed. ItOblAN RELIEF BILL. N'. PLUNK urr moved the order of the day for going into& Committee ea Cos-Roman Catholi. Relitf Big, lie gala he did so for the purpose of its postponement to Friday next, in conse quence of the illness of the Honourable Baronet, Member for West minster (Sir F. Burdett). The order of the day was then read, and the Bill ordered to be eeenmitsed on Friday next. ELECTIVE FRANCHISE BILL (IRELAND). Mr. LITTLETON hoped there would be no objection that the Committee on the Elective Franchise Bill should be postponed to the same day. The Honourable Member then moved the order of the day for going into the Committee. The Order was read, and the Bill ordered to be committed on Friday next. MANCSESTER AND LIVERPOOL RAIL-WAY BILL. Lord STANLEY presented a puition from the Trustees of the Liverpool and Manchester Road against the above Bill. The Noble Lord presented a startler petition from certain other persons. Referred to the Committee on the BilL HULL DOCKS. Mr. MITCHELL presented a petition against the Bull Docks Bill.—Referred to the Committee on the Bill. SHREWSBURY POOR BILL. 31r. P. CORBETT moved the second reading of the Shrewsbury 'oor Bill. Mr. C. PELHAM moved. as an amendment, that it be read a econd time that day six months. Colonel TRENCH said a few words In support of the amend. Mr. C. C. JENKINSON supported the BilL Lord CLIME said a few words in opposition to the Bill. After a few words from Mr. S. BOURNE against the Bill, the House divided. For the Amendment, rid; against it, 27.--Majority, 33. The Bill is consequently lost. SILK MANUFACTURES. - Mr. BERRIES presented a petition from the Chamber of Com merce, of Dublin, upon the subject of the Silk Manufactures.— Laid on the table. GREENOCK DOCK. Sir R. HERON presented a petition from the Merchants of Greenock against the Greenock Dock Bill.—Laid on the table. CATHOLIC E3IANCIPATION. Mr. PALMER presented a petition from the Rector and Church warden. of St. John the Evangelist. Westminster, praying that no farther concessions may be made to the Roman Catholics. General A RCHDALL presented a similar petition from several Parishes and Dissenting Congregations in Tyrone. These petitions woe laid on the table. Lord BINNING said it had been stated in several of the Edin burgh Papers. that he had said, in his place, •• The destruction of the Protestant Church in Ireland would be no great evil." Now, as that was not true and the imputation of such an assertion would be likely to do him a prejudice with his constituents, he would take the liberty of repeating what he really did say. Ile had argued that the present state of the law was dangerous to the Established Church ; and for that reason urged the House to grant Catholic Emancipation, and take away the danger. He hoped they would excuse this explanation; but the impression which haffgone forth would be, without contradiction, extremely preju dicial to him. - - - ..... Mr. SYKES presented a petition from a Clergyman named Miles Prppel, in favour of the Roman Catholic Claims. The petitioner, the lion. Gentleman said, had been induced to present this petition in consequence of his having heard there was a report abroad that the Clergy were in general unfavourable to those Claims.—Laid on the table. JURIES' CONSOLIDATION BILL. Mr. Secretary PEEL moved that the House do resolve itself into a Committee upon the Juries' Consolidation Bill. Mr. C. WESTERN proposed a clause making persons possess. ing 4001. personal property eligible w serve on special juries, as well as freeholders, limiting the privilege however to counties. Mr. Secretary PEEL thought it would be better if the lion. Member wonld allow his clause to be printed for the present along with the Bill, and let the discussion upon it take place hereafter. lie was not unwilling that .persons of certain personal property should be admitted in the manner proposed by the Honourable Member for Essex; but he thought the best criterion would be the number of wit down in the boos: the person occupied. Mr. ABERCRO3IBY asked if it was the Right Honourable Gentleman's Intention to continue the present exemptions. Mr. Secretary PEEL replied, that all the present exemptions, whether by charter or law were to be continued. Mr. CURTEIS asked if the Cinque Ports were to retain their exemptions. Mr. Secretary PEEL said, that if the Honourable Gentleman had examined the Bill, he would have found all who were now ex. empted continued so r•but that he did not create any new ex emptions. The further consideration of the Jury Bill was ordered for this day aennight. Mr. PEEL brought up the Report of' the Bill for the Punish. ment of Convicts in the Colonies.—Ordered to be read a second time on Friday. CATHOLIC QUESTION. Sir 11. VIVIAN presented a petition from the Mayor, Sheriff, and Burgesses of the Borough of Truro, against further concessions to the Roman Catholics. Ile begged to state his entire concurrence in the sentiments of the petitioners, and to add that many of them were Disacoters. WINDOW TAX. Mr. R. GORDON, inthe absence of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hob. Roush), postponed the motion of which he gave notice, relative to the Window Tax, to Thursday, the 12th of :11ay. Mr. Vr. GORDON presented a petition from certain owners and occupiers of land in Aberdeenshire, against any alteration in the Corn Laws. COUNTY COURTS BILL. _ _ Lira ALTHOln'iinTtught --- uii& fielTorTi on the County Courts Bill. He stated a few alterations that had been adopted in the Committee, but which were not distinctly audible in the gallery. • - - - - - - - _ Mr. BROUGHAM expressed his approval of the Bill in its amended shape; the alterations which had been introduced were cakulated to give completion to the very useful labours of his en. lightened Friend. Thee alterations went to diminish the undue influence of the Crown of which he was in the first instance of the introduction of this Bill apprehensive ; and they went to establish the independence of the Bar, an object of most desirable attain. meat. Ile could not conclude without expressing the gratitude which he owed, and which the country owed, to his Noble Friend, who gave a wholesome example, by devoting the talents of a per. son to his high station to so very useful and important a measure as the present. Ile hailed his efrova as the forerunner of future improvements in the judicature of the country—improvements which no man in the profession, or out of the profession of the law, was more competent to suggest and undertake than his Noble Friend. The further consideration of the Bill was ordered for IVednesday next. Sir 0. MURRAY (as we understood) presented a petition from Perthshire. against any alteration in the Corn Laws. Mr. LITTLETON presented a petilion from certain millers In the neighbourhood of Sheffield, and a similar one from Stafford shire, praying fur protecti wi in the event of any alteration in the Corn Laws. THE BRITISH PRESS. t.. or introduce the corn when the price was only 701, paying a duty of 17s. per quarter. Under the present circumstances. and looking at the present prices, it was desirable, not for the benefit of the holders or speculators in corn, but for the benefit of the public at large, that facilities should be given for the home consumption of the corn in bond, before a fresh supply should arrive. Whatever course the House should adopt, the public, and the public only, was intended to be benefited, and no private consideration could interfere with the decision of the House. (Hear, hear.) The House would observe, that within three weeks, the price had rieen more than 4a. per quarter. On Islonday it was G9s. per quarter. The price was rising: various circumstances occurred, the question was agitated, and the intentions of the Government be. came known at Mark-lane. He understood the price that day was higher than it was on Monday, and it would seem that it had a tendency to rice. As the law now stood, the importer might stay until the price was 80s., or he might bring his corn into market upon payment of a duty of 17s. It there should be a want of corn, I in order to prevent a calamity, which every one must deprecate, he proposed to have such a duty as would protect the farmer, whilst it would leave a sufficient inducement to the holder to bring the corn into market. In lieu of all other duties, he proposed that wheat taken cut of warehouse for home consumption should pay a duty of I 10s. per quarter, and all other kinds of grain in proportion. Before ' the discussion on Thursday, he (Mr. litiskisson) had abstained from holding any intercourse with persons interested in this ques tion He had acted on his own judgment, and without reference to the opinion of persons concerned, when he stated his opinion, that a duty of Bs. or Wt. a quarter would be found sufficient for every purpose. Since Thursday, he had heard that some of the holders of bonded corn would prefer holding back and take tht chance ot the ports opening, rather than pay even the reduced duty. He had mentioned the sum of 10s. per quarter duty, under the impression that the House would not think it too much; but he was bound to say that he was ready to listen to any suggestion on this subject. (Hear, hear.) As to the amount of duty to be detived from the admission of bonded corn, it was scarcely a con sideration, as respected the 'Exchequer. The question merely was, whether the duty proposed would protect the farmer, and yet in duce the holder to bring his corn to market in the event of any de ficie-cy in supply ? The permission to introduce warehoused corn under the proposed arrangements only extended to the 15th day of August, the object being to keep down the prices and prevent scarcity, until the produce of toe next harvest became available. lie thought such an object most unobjectionable, as he was sure no Gentleman, looking to the,public interest, would take upon him to say that he wished for higher prices than the present. The quanty of bonded corn now warehoused he estimated at 400,000 quarters. The effect of such a quantity of corn being brought to market would depend almost entirely on the state of the sup ply for the next four months. In 1820 a quantity not at all ex ceeding that which came suddenly to market at the close of last year, produced a serious depression, which demonstrated that there was then an abundant supply in the country. Last October a quantity of oats, as large as that which had caused so great a depression in 1020, was brought to market without creating any depression. On the contrary, it had produced beneficial effects. He now proposed that the quantity of corn warehoused should be gradually intro duced: that one-third belonging to the respective proprietors should be brought into market between the 15th 31ey and the 15th June; one other third between the 15th June and the 15th July, and the remainder between the 15th July and the 15th August. Presuming that the tendency to rise would continue, he thought the gradual introduction of a small quantity of corn within the periods mentioned not be attended with any considerable inconveni. ence. T ed arrangement only comprehended corn ware housed th of May, 11{22. This arrangement pressed hard 4). upon some in Winds. Some warehoused corn had been imported only six weeks after the ports were closed in 1819. In fact, the corn was on b the vessels at the other side before the ports were closed, and etained by adverse winds. Now this certainly was hard u e individuals so peculiarly situated, but the House could not legis ate for individuals; it was bound to act for the pub lic. As to the general measure, he thought the proposed arrange ment would facilitate any alteration that the House should think proper hereafter to decide upon. At the same time he thought it right to state, that the price or average upon which the present ar. rangement was founded, had no reference whatsoever to the general measure or to any projected alterations. lie had a second resolution to propose to the House relating to corn imported from Canada. The quantity of wheat imported to this country from Canada, and now warehoused, did not exceed 20,000 quarters, and upon the 15th of the month this small quantity would be liberated from all duty. His proposition with respect to North American corn was therefore prospective. It merely went to impose a duty of ss. a quarter on all wheat imported from this part of his :Majesty's domi. nions. The duty of 55., Joined with the cost of freight to England, he thought would be fully sufficient to prevent the importation of wheat in excessive quantities from North America. He must now request the indulgence of the House for a short time, whilst he re ferred to a charge of inconsistency brought against him on a former evening by an Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr. A. Baring). In 1815, before the resolutions of his Right lion . friend (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer), on which the existing laws were founded, were agreed to, a meeting had been held at Fife House, at which he (3lr. Huskisson) attended. At that Meeting, so far from being the original proposer, lie had opposed, although unsuccessfully, the system of alternate monopoly and free trade, and had stated his pre. ference to a system of permanent duty. His opinion on this sub ject, therefore, had not changed so materially as the lion. Gent. (Mr. Baring) seemed to think. His opinions had not changed; but he congratulated the Hon. Gentleman on his having himself altered his opinions, and embraced sounder views. The lion. Member no longer seemed to consider that the Corn Laws were mere pretences for raising rent, which appeared to have been his opinion some years ago. The Right Hon. Gentleman toncluded by moving the following Resolutions:— " That it is the opinion of this Committee, that all corn and wheat flour (not being the produce of the British Colonies and Plantations in North America) now warehoused, and which was warehoused upon the importation thereof, on or before the 11th day of May, 11122, shall be admitted to entry for home consumption, at the times and in the proportions following ; that is to say, •' One third of each of the several quantities of such corn or wheat flour belonging to the respective proprietors, between the 15th day of May and the 15th day of June, 1825. " One other third of such quantities between the said 15th day of June and the 15th day of July following ; and the remainder of such quantities between the said 15th day of July and the lath day of August following ; and that upon the entry of any such corn to be taken out of the warehouse for home consumption, within the respective times and in the respective proportions hereinbefore mentioned, there be paid the duties hereinafter mentioned, In lieu of all other duties thereon ; that is to say, For every quarter of iVheat . - 0 10 Ii For every quarter of Rye, Pease, and Beans . 0 6 6 For every quarter of Barley, Beer, or Bigg . 0 5 0 For every quarter of Oats - - 0 3 6 For every cwt. of Flour - - . 0 2 10 " That It is the opinion of this Committee that all prohibitions and restrictions now in force, and that all duties now payable upon the importation of wheat, the produce of and imported from the British Colonies and Plantations in North America, shall cease and determine; and that in lieu of all such duties there be paid on the importation of such wheat, a duty of Live shillings for real' quarter thereof. Dlr. A. BARING said, that holding no official situation, his opinion on any question could be matter of no public importance; yet, having been referred to by the Right Hon. Gentleman, in justice to himself he felt it his duty to state, that no alteration had taken place in his opinions on the subject of the Corn Laws. His objection was not to the system of protection, but to the increase of protection. And as to the Right lion. Gentleman's sentiments on the subject, if he had opposed the principle of the Corn Laws at a l Meeting at Fife House when he came down to that llouse , he had I supported it as aealous iy as if the plan had originated with himself. Looking at the subject as respects the aristocracy and the landed interest, he would be sorry to witness any considerable depression in agricultural produce. The injury too which might arise ffom mistakes should also be carefully guarded against ; for the injury which would arise from such mistakes would operate not only upon the other classes of society, but even ultimately upon the very high. eat—upon the aristocracy and the landed Interest. Without mak ing any further observations on the general question, he would now proceed to notice the particular subject then under the consideration of the Committee. The opinion, he had reason to think, pretty generally prevailed, that it was a wise and expedient measure to let in foreign corn. He then adverted to the wide influence which any thing falling from the Right Hon. Gentleman (3lr. liuskisson) naturally had ; from which subject he passed to the influence of the currency upon the price of corn, taking occasion to remark that there was no reason for the public to be alarmed at the fluctuations so produced. He then adverted very briefly to what he bad said on Thursday in reference to this subject. The letting in of corn would be, he was fully persuaded, highly beneficial even to the landed interest itself. lie thought that the time fixed by the Right Hon. Gentleman (the 15th of August) was not the most judicious; for the holders el corn might reserve their stocks till that time, when, it being in their power then to form some judgment of the probable prospects of the harvest, they might wait to bring in at 80s. without any duty. If they wished to induce the holder to bring it in earlier, they ought to set him free before that period, that he might have a month or six weeks to deliberate. As to the price at which it should be let in, his Right lion. Friend, the President of the Board of Trade, bad stated very fair grounds, and had consulted the interests of the proprietors of corn as well as that of the country at large. He fully concurred in the opinion that they were not accountable to speculator' for such measures, as a due regard to general expediency might require, and lie thought that his Right Hopourable Friend was quite right in not tying up his hands by pledging himself to meet the claims of such in dividuals . The measures in progress - would doubtless very much Interfere with the speculations to English corn, but in no respect so as to found a claim for compensation of any sort. There was one class to whom it was a matter of much advantage—to whom it would prove a very great boon indeed ; he meant those having stocks of Dant& corn. But this boon was not to be granted with any view of doing them a service ; the only object of it was—the only legi timate object it could have was, to benefit the country at large. Dlr. ‘FOGEHOUSE then said a few words scarcely audible In the gallery, after which Sir. J. lIENErr (Wiltshire) would have corn introduced ra ther at 17s. than at 10s., for he was against giving such an immense advantage as this to the importers of corn. They would gain 140,0001 by it. Letting in Canada corn ought not to excite appre hension of -any danger of the price rising too high. Mr. L. FOSTER was of opinion that the present measure was well calculated to serve the agricultural interest. It was better he thought to do this than to let in the accumulation of six years, which could be imported at Als. lie then adverted to some net ills which had been communicated by letters which he had received from mills; in Ireland. Their opinien was (end some of then were of considerable respectability) that When the duty on wheat I was 10s. there should be • corresponding duty of 41. on flour instead of 2.. lOd. He expressed his concurrence in the first resolution, but dissented from the second. . . • I General GASCOIGNE would support this resolution, were it not that he thought it did not go fax enough in reduction. He re commended Bs., and would move an amendment to that effect, which he accordingly did. Mr. SYKES thought that it was a boon to the holders of corn to which they were Justly entitled. Sir !IL CHOLMELEY thought there was an abundant suffi ciency of corn in the country for all the purposes of consumption. It was not the custom of landlords to collect their rents which were payable on Lady Day till Midsummer, and on that account the farmers did not find It necessary to thresh out their wheat till that period. The Honourable Member concluded by saying he would support the Resolutions of the Right Honourable the President of the Board of Trade, as he considered them calculated to afford a proper degree of relief to the parties concerned. Alderman THOMPSON had no interest whatsoever in the present question ; but thought a large amount of capital, upwards of a million, was rendered unproductive by the restrictions upon foreign grain. He was of opinion that this capital might be em. ployed with advantage to the country, and he should therefore sup port the removal of the restrictions, but to a still greater extent than that proposed by the Right Honourable Geotleman (Mr Husk's eon), or the gallant General (Gaseoyne). Ile (Mr. Thompson) would more, as an amendment on the previous proposition, that 6s. be the amount of duty at which corn now in bond should be saleable. Mr. FA RRAND proposed that bonded corn shoultfbc admitted into the market unincumbered by the payment of any duty what- Colonel WOOD thought the Ifonourable Gentlemen who had proposed the several amendment to the original Resolution of the , Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Huskisson), were any thing rather than the true friends of the cornholders. He trusted those Gentlemen would consent to withdraw their amendments, and pass the original Resolutions without a dissentient voice. 3lr. CRIPPS stated, that in consequence of the failure of the motion of the Honourable Member for Bridgnorth (Mr. Whit more) on Thursday evening, corn had risen a shilling a bushel. Discussion. in that House would generally have a similar effect, more particularly if it were to be asserted that there was any likeli hood of a deficiency in the supply of corn. Such a statement, he doubted not, would have the effect of raising the price 4s. or even Ss. a bushel. The Honourable Member approved of the proposed plan of sending the bonded grain into the market gradually. and in equal proportions, during the three months, and would support the original Resolution. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it appeared to be the general impression and feeling of the House that it was advisable to accede to the proposition of his Right lion. Friend (Mr. Haskissoo. Under such circumstances, it was the less ne ce.sary to trouble the House with any arguments upon the nature of the Resolutions, which seemed to meet the necessity of the case, as was generally admitted, in the best possible manner. With re gard to the amount of duty to be laid on bonded corn previous to its adm!ssion into the market, there also appeared to be a general feeling in favour of the sum proposed by his Hon. Colleague. And considering what was intended to be done in favour of the parties interested in bonded corn, as a boon purely gratuitous, they would have no right to complain ; and in conferring that benefit, the House were to adhere as closely to the existing law as possible, and make as slight an alteration in it as was consistent with affording those parties the relief required. Under those circumstances, he thought it must be allowed that there should be a duty imposed on Its sale; and farther, that the duty should not be reduced below a certain point. It might be difficult to give a part.cular reason why 10s. should be preferred to any other sum as the duty to be im posed ; if it could be shown that a duty of 10s. would have the effect of keeping bonded corn out of the market altogether, he would then admit it to be too high in amount ; but no such thing hail been proved, nor, as far as he could see, was that likely to be the result of the adoption of the original Resolutions. Feeling as he did, and looking at the alteration in this point of view, he con fessed he thought his Hon. Friend would do well to abide by his first proposition, and fix the amount of duty at 10s. For his part, in appro( , ing of 10s. in preference to a lower sum, he hipped be should not be supposed to do so for the sake of the poor and miser able addition to the revenue, which would be thus afforded. Such a consideration would nut influence him for a moment, did he see any sufficient reason (which lie did not) for agreeing to either of the propositions of his Honourable Friends, the Members for Liverpool and London. Mr. HANDLEY supported the Resolutions. After a few words front Colonel JOHNSON, Mr. J. MAXWELL thought the agriculturists entitled to pro , ;action equivalent to the amount of taxes and poor rates which they paid to the State, but no farther. If they sought for more, they were seeking what it would be equally unjust to the other classes of the community,and disgraceful to themselves, to have granted. He farther thought, that previous to any step being taken in so im portant a question as that of the Corn Laws, due inquiry should be made, and all the parties interested should be acquainted with the nature of the measures intended to be adopted. 111 r. MONCK spoke in favour of the Resolution. Mr. HUSKISSON disclaimed having said any thing which could for a moment give rise to an opinion that any reduction of duty on Irish flour would result from the adoption of the present measure. He professed to give no opinion upon that subject, but wished to leave every gentleman to form his own judgment upon it. In submitting this Resolution to the Committee, he proceeded upon these two simple facts, viz.: that the price of corn was suffi ciently high to protect the agriculturist in the market, and that • sufficient quantity of corn in the warehouses might be admitted into consumption without having any ill effect upon the grower. This opinion he gave without any regard to what effect it might have upon the flour in Ireland. NV hen the House should come to legis late generally upon the Corn Laws, the scale of duty on flour, he thought, ought to be more than it was at present, for reasons which he would not now state. He thought that, both in respect to the time and the degree in which this corn was to be admitted into consumption, he should be unworthy of the situation which he held if he did not, in those things, consult the general interests of the country. It was certainly painful to him to take • view of the operation which the present laws had had upon the interests of in dividuals. He believed a great portion of the wheat now in ware houses was in port so far back as in 1819, and stood the parties in no less a sum than 70a. a quarter. But the general principle was, that in all matters of commerce persons must sustain the consequences of their speculations, and that the interests of individuals could not be con. stilted in preference to those of the public. An Hon. Member (Mr. Baring) had alluded to the consequences which his (Mr. iluskisson's) speech on Thursday last had had upon the Foreign Exchange. Now he perceived, that on Saturday there was a little alarm prevailing among the very sensitive class—the monied men ; but on Friday there was no alarm whatever, and therefore what had occurred could not have been the consequence of any thing which was said by him on the occasion alluded to. But he was anxious to correct any mistake which might have arisen as to what he did say regarding the operation of the rate of exchange on the interests of this country. He stated that he thought one reason why the House should not legislate at present respecting the ge neral question of the importation of corn was, that the foreign ex changes were not at this time favourable to this country, and that if we did proceed to legislate while such was the case, he was ap prehensive that it would be more prejudicial to the rate of exchange than otherwise. He also adverted to those who had the control of the circulation of the country, and begged them to be cautious how they countenanced the present speculating spirit which was abroad, and which had such an effect on the forego exchanges. But he did not say any thing that was at all calculated to excite deem. Good Good ! that a temporary unfavourable state of the foreign exchanges should be considered capable of creating any alarm in this country ! Why such a notion was oppoted to the Interests of all commerce, and subversive of every thing which was'impposed to constitute the greatness and wealth of this country. If such were the effects of an unfavourable state of exchange, how must it have operated on foreign countries, against whom It had bout for the last six years? It must have ruined them entirely, but instead of that being the case, they were nnhurst by the fact, and so, also, would this country be free from sustaining any material or serious Injury from the present unfavourable aspect of the foreign exchange.. The fact certainly did exist, and what he said was, that though it was in itself a circumstance of the most trivial nature, yet it might happen, that by false notions being entertained respecting it, the country might be led Into embarrassments. He repeated, that he had never said foreign exchanges could injure the country; but that, if false views were taken of the matter, they might eventually lead to embarrassment. Mr. WESTERN made some observations in favour of the original motion, but for wine time he was quite inaudible in the gallery. With regard to the operation of the general Corn Law, he observed, that its practical consequences had been upon the whole beneficial. Not any of those prophecies which had been made by Honourable Gentleman, as to the effects of the law, had been in ant instance fulfilled. It was prognosticated, that corn would never be under 90s. a quarter ; but had such been the fact ? Indeed, front the time that the Bill had passed, the rent of land had been continually diminishing, and that upon the whole, up to the present moment, this law had given satisfaction. Many of the fluctuations which had been attributed to it were antecedent to pit being passed, and the fluctuations which had since occurred had been much less. Mr. HUME said he should not have troubled the House but for the observation matt:: by tho Hon. Gentleman whn had just sat down. That Hon. Gentleman had said, that the Corn Law had given general satisfaction. Now, on the contrary, be (Mr. Hume) knew that there was st this moment existing, among a large body of the manufacturers in the north, a great enitiety to see some altera tion take place iu respect ea the Corn Law. Ile therefore protested against the statement of his lion. Friend, that the country was satisfied with the law as it at present stood. The first Resolution was then put and agreed to. On the second Resolution being read... Mr. L. FOSTER rose, and observed, that this Resolution appeared to him to stand upon grounds perfectly distinct from the one which had just been passed, and that at present it was quite impossible for him to agree to it. He conceived it in effect to put in discussion the general principle of tho Corn Laws. If in the nest Session of Parliament this general question should be brought forward ; sod the present spirit of prohibition should be allowed. would not the whole question turn upon what should be the amount of the importation duty ? It surely then became a met: question of terms, the leading principle of prohibition being ad mitted, whether a duty of 10a., 155., 205., or 255. should be imposed. He would avoid expressing an opinion as to what ought to be the amount—di:A required further consideration and better evidence than was at present before the House ; bus the reso. lotion which was row proposed did, in fact, assume that ss. was the precise and proper limit of duty to be fixed. Now be would not ________„; say that such might not lit.. :he proper sum, but he contenied that OMR, dory before it could be determined to be so much investigation was necessary. If the noose was prepared now to say that ...i w as enough duty on Canadian wheat, why not at once settle th e min question, and say, that either fia., 10a.. or 15s. wan the upon Dantzic corn F. With regard to the duty mentionei in 6 resolution, he begged to refer to the evidence before the B ogle, „ A ' see whether that evidence support( d the sum proposed to be fired. It appeared that the average price of Canadian corn was3Bl. pet qr., tha t the price of transit across the Atlantic w as I i s ., and then ca me 0 4 .tow"havtleemaovreersigneformPricertionat Can upo aaa n the ? ss. duty, enough hßut nobody would venture to say, that 555. was to protect our own growers. But what icier. It ale subje ct before we proceeded - to legislate. There had been pan groat deal ef contradictory statements made u to what where the average pri m , in different countries. Some gentlemen spoke of Dunuie Corr , .moasttiaotnedh,ad but w ewtehoatug3thlst others of Odessa, some of Canada, and others of other pan e o r th ; world ' • but all these were mere conjectures, an d matters which called for investigation. But there was one port whi,h e ft,. deti us a true criterion to form a judgment by—lie meant the poet o f Rotterdam. The average price at that port for the last five yese s , including the first price of the grower, and al,o the expetee of transit was—for 1820 Itds. 1821 335. id: 1822 s • - tts. sns, 1823 36a na, 1824 s - 325. lull making an average of about 325. a quarter. Now he con? there appeared to him no reason why we ought not have co rn - aiN o d o cheap in England as in Holland ; and th e question therefore solved itself Into this, what was the kilo d uty which oughto rebo" imposed to enable this country to obtain corn at this price, and a n the sante time to protect the agricultural interest ? He would a , freely, that the experience of this country of late year s e r th, r make the protecting price to be about fats. or fias. Ile h w ee ; would repeat, that this was all a matter of inquiry, and t h o ot question ought not to be anticipated in the manner attempted to b e done by means of the Resolution now before the Committee, and that until we came to the discussion of the general principle, w e ought not to fix any certain sum as the standard o f an lupin • duty on any foreign corn whatever. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER —Rh ( H o ,. Friend who had just addressed Owed had said, that h e could soe comprehend upon what principle it was that the Nlinistets aetd with regard to Canadian corn, and yet did not l egis l ate i n rapes the corn from the other parts of the world. Bu t hi, Hon. m ai d seemed to have forgotten that Canada was a part of this co untry, rod that the Canadians were our fellow-subjects. If t h e argument,' used by his lion. Friend were w.sod as against C ana d a , he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) knew not why in 1806 t h e same arm ment had not prevailed against Ireland, when coin f rom fiat country was allowed to be imported at a reduc e d d uty . But kcal we no motive in dealing liberally with th e colonies? Did by Honourable Friend forget that something had recently takes place respecting the colonies of other countries, whi c h l is t placed them in a very different relation to what they formal, stood ? Did he not remember that many of t h e Colonies had been alienated from their Mother Countries? an d. a b ove all, did he forget the cause which led to that alienation? Did not S pans check the growth of the vine In her coloni e s ; an d w h at was fly consequence? why, they repelled the injustice, an d s h e lost them. Ile thought we should be very shortsighted to our own h is tercets if we were to abut out of our ports the only raw ma tenet which our American Colonies prod u c e d. C ana d a could not send out any thing but her corn, for she pos sesse d noth i ng be sides. Looking at the question both in a commerc i al and in political point of view, it appeared to lint o f p aramount i mportance to the interest of this country. He was certainly s ur p r i se d t h at hie lion. Friend should have c onsidered Canute in ohs came light y the other parts of the world, when a large part of the popula tion of that eery Canada consisted of his ono countrymen. Last year Parliament palmed • vote for sending out thither a year num t r so o t f he P° :a r me hal tl f- i s ii ta i red g was dons pele (ram Ireland, and this Nov the Honeurabla Member for Aberdeen would be quite justified in his opposition to that measure, if, after sending these unfortunate people Irons home we were to deny to them the means of selling the products of their labour. Whatever therefore might be out policy tow ar d s f ore i gn countries, whether we admitted the corn of Dantrac, of Odessa, er of Rotterdam into our ports, he did think it would be a species of suicide, were we to deny to the Canadians a means of selling tha only raw material which their country produced—while on the other hand, in rendering this service to them, ve should not only ba affording that assistance which as British subjects they were entitled to receive, but we should bind our colonies in an allegiance more finis than ever, by uniting their interests with our own, and should above all be acting upon that principle which would inaease our politla tical strength in every part of the world. Mr. NE '.F3IA N (Member for Exeter) observed, that much caution was necessary in the operation of the principle embraced by the Resolution before the House. He had been informed that at this moment there were large quantities of corn shipped trona various parts of the world for Canada, in order to ; , e reshipped from thence to this country. He thought therefore, if corn were permitted to be imported here at a reduced duty front Canada, that the importation of corn which really should come from the United States ought to be guarded against. Colonel WOOD said, that notwithstanding what had been said by his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer reelect , ing the peculiar claims of Canada, lie could not quite agree sat; this Resolution. If the Committee should adopt the Resolution es at present framed in favour of Canada, there would be as anal of the Corn Laws. The spirit of that law was now—that rhea wheat was at a price of 675. a quarter, . then our ports should oe test as to corn from Canada; and that wen the poet attained to lea then the ports should be free as to the rest of the world. lit thought the better way for the House to proceed would be rot to break down the principle of the law as it now stood ; but that if 675. was found to be too high a price for Canada, then let the im portation be lowered ' • but he hoped the House would not make that great departure from the present law, as to say that all cora coming from hence should be admitted at • duty of 51, pa quarter. Ile thought there was a great mistake existing as to what au sties duty on corn. In 1791, the price of wheat was Ms. and the importation duty was 11. 4s. 3d. In 1804 corn was 631., and the duty 11. 43. 3d. ;_ and in 1807 corn was under 63x. Ind the duty 11. ss. This did not appear to him to be very different flan apro hibition. He considered it was a matter of perfect indifference to the agriculturalist, whether under the existing Corn Law he Acrid be protected by a sum being fixed as the price below which en corn should be allowed to be imported, or whether, under an iMper. tation duty, foreign corn should be raised io high to the purchaser as to amount to a prohibition. 3lr. LESLIE FOSTER explained. Mr. WESTERN made a few observations, which were not hen! In the gallery. Mr. A. BARING supported the Resolution. Its FUlt:IrC , must have been known to every Member who paid the least aver. tion to the opening statement of the Right lion. Gentleman op. posite (Mr. Huskisson) when he lai4 before the ; Hoese tre alterations which he intended proposing with respect tc the colorizd trade t the matter was therefore not brought now for the first tore. (Hear, hear.) The proposed measure ought not to be lootasle2a with that jealous eye with which some lion. Members were du posed to view it. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had stated the true grounds on which we were proceeding; we were doing thzt which friendship, brotherly feeling, and sound discretion dictated; besides, we should consider to whom we were making the fOrietS sion—to those who were joined to us by the strongest ties of amity. The Honourable Gentleman went on to say, that there was no danger of corn being sent from Europe to Canada, that it tray le brought thence to England as of Canadian growth. The freight to and from Europe was too high to admit of such • practice; ore cargo, it was true, may come here under such circumstances, bet ,t never could become a permanent trade ; and suppose such a coarse were to be pursued, bad we not the remedy in our own hands ? We it was who regulated the trade with Canada; in like manner could we prevent the fraudulent introduction of corn from the United States. Mr. 11 USKISSON defended the Resolution. It was refold to lay a duty of right shillings on foreign torn imported to Canada; that, together with the freight, must effectually prevent the practice which seemed to be so much dreaded ; there were no grounds for supposing that corn could be introduced from the Upited States to Canada any more than from Eur o pe, f or the purpose of hcia6 smuggled into this country. The intercourse between the United States and Canada was of such a nature as to make it almost imprac ticable. In legialating on this subject, we ought to bear in mind that Canada derives all her manufactured goods front England, and what has been her state of late ? All her bills have been protested, tot her corn on coining to this country is immediately placed under lock, the consequence is, site has no means of making good her engsg'mnen 3 ; her merchants could not endure such a state of thing,- iVe should consider what must be the feelings of men so circumstanced, patty malady of persons descended, as they are, from Englishmen. The Right Hon. Gentleman went on to say, that the proposition new before the House was not new; six weeks had elapsed since it was first mentioned ; it cecina' no alarm ; many petitions had been ler: seated against any alteration in the Corn Laws, and not a single word of apprehension did one of them contain as to the MA 4 ° which was to be made in favour of Canadian corn. Mr. NEWMAN explained. He was informed that a WWI seas then taking in a cargo of corn at to Proce ed with it to Canada, that it might be brought front thence to this country. hat lie mentioned was, therefore, not quite so preposterous os the Rlin; Hon. Gentleman represented it. Mr. LOCK nA RT thought the House ou g ht not to breakthrough the principle that protection should be afforded to the borne I.•'' duce; It was a curious ci r cumst a n ce th at h e had that day seer to a work, written 1700 years ago, the very same principles advance4, s those put forwent that night by th e li o n. Alember for booth thlr . L. Foster). The old historian to whose work he alluded says;• 4 nothing can be more impolitic than fo r a parent state to surr ender her own interests for the purpose of aggrandizing a colonial f r ; - vinee ; and, speaking of a period when Rome contained cothrh..! stiflicinnt for 13 day a' consumption, h e sa ys, swearing a migrj oath, for he spoke with indignation (a laugh), " Is it not to hr the niented that we who formerly exported cart to every country la ; ,•m ne world, should now be compelled to depnal for our existeneefh alictly, Egypt, and other parts of Africa ?" Toe Hon. ale mlT w went on to say, that he did not °lipase the Resolution, tteer-o'._ thought the duty of 51. a quartet as Insuflitient foe the protest , 1 of our agricultural interest, but be was anxious to support the ciple advanced by the Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. L. Fent ri - The Resolution was then agreed to. The House resumed, and the report was ordered to be bought up to-morrow. DISSENTERS' MARRIAGE BILL. Mr. W. SMITH moved that the House rrsolvc itself lntt' Committee on the Dissenters' Marriage B CO3I3II:TTF . E_ OF SUPPLY. On the motion of Lord PALMERSTON, the House resolved Itself into a Committee of Supply, and the following Resolutions were agreed to : For the charge of the disembodied militia of Great Britain, from the 2.5 th day of December 1021, to the 21th December 1925, both inclusive, being 363 days, 303,4591. Is. 6d. For the charge of the disembodied militia of Ireland fur the same period, 114,2071. 13s._ 64. litill BANKING BILL. The House resolved itself into a Committee on the Irish Bankers' Bill. The several clauses passed without observation. The House then resumed, and the Report was ordered to be taken into further consideration on Thursday next. INTRODUCTION OF BONDED CORN. On the motion of 31r. HUSKISSON, that the House do re. solve itself into a Cornminteo• the Corn Importation Laws-- 31r. CURWEN rose. Ile had intended on the night when the general question of the Corn Laws was debated, to have suggested the idea of going into • Committee ; but he became suddenly indisposed, which prevented him from pressing this view of the question on the night alluded to. He was sorry the Right lion. Gentleman had not seen the necessity of such a proceeding. as he (Mr. Cumin) thought it would be attended with beneficial consequences, as it would probably reconcile the country to the alterations which the Itight lion. Gentleman might think fit to propose. Unless the Right lion. Gentleman, from information derived from his official situation, could say, that there was likely to be a want of corn before the termination of the present season, lie Curwen), however reluctantly, must oppose the measure which the Right lion. Gentleman was about to bring forward. The prevailing cpinion in the country was, that the ports were not likely to be opened, and that there could be no necessity for the intro. duction of the bonded corn. This opinion was decidedly expressed by the petitions which lay upon the table. The fanner should not be obliged to pay for the losses of the importer, and if no want was likely to arise, he (Mr. Curwen) must votettgainst the admis sion of bonded corn. If it was the Right lion. Gentleman's opinion that a necessity was likely to arise, it would be well if the Right lion. Gentleman would distinctly state that opinion, and by so doing set at rest the doubt entertained in the couutry on that subject. Mr. CURTEIS thought there was a decided objection to an proposal which could be considered as a breach of contract with the tanner. Mr. LOCKHART thought that persons might ildulge In con jectures u to the quantity of corn in this country ; but, in his opinion, no one could ay decidedly whether there wan corn enough or not. He should not pledge himself to support the details of the Right Hon. Gentleman's measure, bet he considered the plan fair and equitable in principle. The House then resolved itself into a Committee. Mr. 11USKISSON rose. After the general discussion on this subject a few nights ago, he did not think it necessary to enter into a long discussion on the present occasion. Ile should merely ask for the attention of the House whilst he briefly catrd the law and the bids, of which the Hon. Member for Taunton (Mr. Baring) from what hal Mien from him on a previous evening, did not seem to be fully acipainted. By the Corn Bill of 1815 it was provided, that the importation of all foreign corn should be prohibited, when the price was under Pus. per quarter. By the Act of 18'20 the average prier at which corn may be imported was left unaltered; but as 'opt:ort was give to the importers; they had an altematire, they might wait until the price should arrive at 80s. per quarter,