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Lord Sr. Jort's opposed the Bill, en the grounds that it could he of uo service to this country. or of lajury to the enemy; that the coosnruptim; isf cot tooNsanufacturea depended io great a measuie ou taste, and if it was pirsillte to prevent cotton wool from goiiig into France, so as to stop her cotton manufactures, it would divert her taste to linens. It was well known that she had huhu mauufactures to a grout extent, and although Itoen might not be as comfortable, as neceviare, as bandsome, or as luxurious,.yet, if it become the taste and the fashion of the people of France, they would feel quite content wish the exchange. Lord AucuLosn--“ My Lords, when this Bill was brought into the House of Commons, it was defended by its supporters as a measure neressary to give effect to the Orders in Council ; but it dif ferent argument has been introduced by the Noble Earl opposite. He says, that it was on account of the American embargo, and to prevent u scarcity of the article in this country, by detaMing what was in it. Niel confident this never WAS the cause of bringing in the Bill. No—it is bite of those weak measures of His Majesty's Ministers to re duce Frmice by piece-meal. I never heard that there ever has been en overplus of cotton in this country. 1 believe it is the wise system of Ame rica never to sewd more cotton to this country than OUT manufactures can coneunie ; • hut supposing that this is a tueusure in support of the Orders in Comma, how will it operate ? All the cotton of America, Beesils and your own Colonies, must come into this country. Eytensive as your ware how<es are, will they contain it, and of what value will it be? It may he said, it innst lie cheap to the manufacturer; lint what ad% r All ii4e C. i ll it he to him ? For eller it is manufactured, where will he find a market ? and by the moderation of the price you will ruin your own colonie , . My Lords, I always thought it the beet policy of England, as a commercial nation, not to war with tint petty niaaufacturera of the Continent, but to attend to our owu manufactures, and by makint , them bet ter, .and being ably to sell them e r iesprr. to drive even the manufactures of the Contiiienvout of their owu market. I do highly disapprove of the Bill, mid o n ly think it a part of that wild system, which iu the cud vfil brog ruin on the country." Lord Re.ot%tiaLs supported the measure as one !bait would oppress the enemy. The Earl of LLVDERDALF--" My Lords, I will sot argue this measure upon the grouod of the embargo of America, or the Orders bf Conacit, but 1 will oppose it on the ground, that it is more likely to injure this nation, than either of these measures eat possibly do. IV e have been told at the Bar of this I louse. that there are in America 2000 hags of cotton ready to be imported into this country. and a great complement from the Brasil.. Should this arrive, shall we be able to consume it ? No--and what will be the consequeuce ? Thera will be lifetime granted by Ilia Majesty to certain indivi duals in the flavour of Ministers to export it.—My Lord., is it not dangerous te the liberties of the people, to vest the Crown with this new influence ? Suppose your licenses are for Neutral Nations, they may, ;toter receiving them, send it to the enemy without any restriction." Lord Hi:saw se air contended. that the measure WAS a wise one, as it injured the enemy, and as it assisted our manufacturers. As to what had fallen from the Noble Earl about granting licenses, and extending the influence of the Crown. the Bill • only followed a watts that had been in practice for fourteen years. The Earl of DA EN LEY opposed the measure as ruinous to the people, and au extension oldie pre rogatives of the Crown. Lord (.:ehtivihhe contended, that the idea of keeping France without cotton was extravagant indeed ; for the supporters of the Bill, if they re ferred to the history of other countries, would lind that the enemy had it iu their power to procure as much cotton as they wanted, mill that without ban obliged to refer to water carnage. Dial the Noble Lords recollect, that cotton was raised in the Levaut ? Italy produced cotton, and that country was under the controul of France ; Sicily also produce:l cotton, and he could not bay how long it would be before that island was under the in llu tome of France. Any prohibition of ours would only make those count, its increase the cultivation of the article, and in time they might he able to raise a 000sfficiency to answer their einisumption. The ruler of France, whose policy and mining cannot be doubted, would envonnoge the cultivation, and wake his manufacturers independent of all nat . The quesbtau was then put. that the Bill be read a third time, and the Douse divided, Contents, •s—Non-Contents, 1 . 3.--3II;OrifF, 31. The Earl of LACDEND•LS said, to prevent the measure from giving an improper influence to the Crown, he sookl propose a clause, that after nine months front the passing of the Bill, should there be a surplus of cotton in this country, every mer chant should be at liberty to apply to his Majesty's Ministers for n license to expert it; and en that application, the paper ecastansit!g it should he put into a glass , and when His Marsli thought fit to i ssue licenses, th a t they blieUla and the licenses be granted accord.ng as they caws out of the bottle. After some conversation between Lords Mct.- GRIME, LAUDFADAtt, aad C.m.a IL LC, the clause was negatived. The Bill was then passtsl without ai!ivi4on. The Bills on the table were forwarded iu their seepecti we stages. Adjourned at Tw ei.ve o'ct ere. PROT UST IN THE PotTSE OF titans, AGIINgT PASSING TIM SIMI To PROHIBIT TUE EXPORT of JEAVIT's RARE, Dtk 40111, Aral!, 7, 180.1. TtI.*EVTIt'VT, i't. Swatter the Jesnit's Soh, the raportatine of which is prohibited by this Bill, has beat found, by long rept rieare, to be a specific for unsay dangerous. diseases, *Was war tea • trudency to spread awl to esssperate and be cause, t• employ, as an en4inervfwar,tlie privet:on of the only remedy fui same of the greatest sufferings which war is ca pable of inflirtiug, is inanifistly repugnant to the principles of the Christian Religion, conteary to humanity, and nut jt stifled by any practicts civilised nations sd erase lis neaps to which recourse has heen hither war. 1 see no analogy to the barbarous eeactowat m 8111 , Hip,mitch as it is not even contended, that the pnrat.or to be crested by it has say tendency whatever to f-slastince, or to coolyi the enemy a the resturation rare, the soly legitimate objects by which die iallictioo of the calamities of Oar can s any ease Ile justified. ad. Became the wily inusible answer to those objections is, that the Hill will out produce the privation vrtneh is held foith as its ostensible object, isasmach as the... Jesuit's Bark say biexported nude, licenses frina the Crown ; bolt suck at answer would only pease the Bill to be wholly useless to its purposes, whilst It would still leave id its full operation the mloos precedent of having resorted, in cold blood, fiat the mere speculative sale of oar manufactures, even to the pos sible infliction of miseries, nut to be vindicated bat by the view of self-presievation or in the extrenotias of war di reeled to that justifiable object. nth. Because, as no scarcity of the Jesuit's Bark appears at present to mist in France, and us in the cutitrai:, cape no possible exertion ua the part of this military could eilectually prevent its impoitation Olio the 3111111el'Ulta ports undue. the dominion ur eontroul of the French Government, the Bill appears to no to be grossly vicious in principle, whilst it is absolutely uie!titury in practice, and therefore is carry point of view disavaimful and absurd. sib. Because if it were even just, expedient, or practi eahle, force t he importation of user manufactures upon our !Millie*, by WitLhulthug the Jesuit's Berl, lint upon condi tion of their permitting such importation, that principle should have been distinctly expressed iu the Bill, and the mullions specifically declared in it ; instead of vesting in the Crown an arbitrary discretion to dispense with the pro hibition by licenses, a power destructive of the equality of British coninierce, and dangeruss to the British Constitution. Erskine Essex Chulinondeley Carringion Upper (hoary Grenville Bedford Rosalyn Pousouhy (lessoaroagA) Lauderdale Albemarle Clifton (.If.urdey.) Pousouby (of laonadly.) HOUSE OP COMMONS. The SI/MAKER inforlDed the House, he had received letter bows Admiral Stirling, in ansvrcr tu one be bad wi Mee to that gallant t'omorustkr, comtuu.ticatout to ham the Vute of Tbaulos roufelled ou 11w by that [louse, for hie breve and placket (-outlet., at the tiking of 31oute Yoko —The Speaker read the letter, viticb contaitted a banal...one cc- Looatedittaent of thc hoaour the House Lad eutsferred uu hie by their Vote. _ A Meas.rte froefehe Inmis sunnenceil their swot to the Jesuit's Bask PruhiNtiun Bill, and sonic Private Bile. _ _ • _ . . . . Lord Paltry, Chairman of the Wmford Elati o n Petition Committee, Leonid up a Report from that (:oinuottee, statiug, that in consequence of the illness of Mr. Lice Mord, a Member of that Committee, the tintitnittre lied lwen un able to proceed to hussiiess, and adjourned uutil to-morrow. His Lordship stated, the Hou. :ilember's Pb) titian ass thee in wait ug, to satisfy the :loam ins the subject. Dr. Pitcairn, the Plt)siciao, was then called in, nits .mined He stated, it was hts opinion that, in Cillartittelll4ll of the feverish symphittis of his patient, he thought be could cot safely attend the Committee its future. His Lordship theta moved, " That the Hun. Tolleonber should be excused firm sAteadiog the service of the Cum so.ttee is future i" which was agreed to suanimously. Kr. C. Lltuisisas moved, the Sr-Aker should issue a sew writ fur time ele.stuu of a COstIIIIIIIiOUCT, fur the county of Sather:mid, in the room of the Right Hon. Wro. Hondas, who, Piglet his e l ect i on, had accepted the office of thu Chit. trrn Huudrvals —.ot4eied. 141e.PA VW rat pac make, that he would, immediately after dor reeve, root, the Hoene nhoola tike into consideration the Petition and Claims of Mr. P4:lllkr, of Bath, for reontuc ratline for hie pablie arrricers. The SOLII ITORAirittt AL of SCO AAAAA persetiteal a Petition, eoinplmniug of au undue election for lb. tkornogli of New Mallon. 'Ube cousitlcratiuu of the Petition was fixed for the 34 of May next. _ After some °focirations by Mr. LAIICELLti, relative to the insufficiency and nugaturi pro isiuos vd the bill for Re gullet's.... the Leeds Cloth 31ansfactory, the kill mu read e @leveed time, and ordered to b committed. The LORD Anvoc trs of POOTLA • n obtained leave to loirtc in a fur better regulating the Raw& of the Cowie of Scorand. Mr. N. Val's ITT•ItT gave notice, he worth!, Toesday seat, move for certain papers relating to the Trade awl Na vigation of the United Kiugdoos. The Bill 41p/eventing the Exportation of Wool to Ire lands vritboat Dowd i was read a third filar Mad paned. SUPPLIES GRANTED. On the Motion of Mr. Husaissow, the House went into a Committee on the Supply to he grant ed to His ,Muyesty. Several papers were ales re ferred to tlic Committee. In the Counitittee the usual inland sums were voted to His Majesty, of which we collected only the following—. For the support and maintenance of ituaviiis, the slam of For Stationery for the twu !louses of Parliament 1,300 o 0 For printing various Stimusents sod papers fur the use of Parliatnect Mr. Iltisaissus moved a grant of 30,UuUl. fur the completion of the Naval Asylum.' Sir Cl/A(11.El POLE thought, before such consi derable additional grant.* were made, there should be some estimates vr the total expenaea likely to be itreurred by the foundation of this establish ment. 31r. I iv. t SSO 24 nail - tilted there should. Rethought however it would take up some time, as the Asy lum had been a lung time in builtlitig; and there was au absolute necessity for immediate supplier. Any Motion the Noble Baronet should nuke nit this subject, should have his support, if it were for the purpose of procuring information. 3lr. IVUITBREAD thought the original estimate had been intently far exceeded. Building esti mates and expeniliture should be always looked over with a very jealous eye ; especially when it was recollected what nu immense quantity of the public woary had been wantonly squandered in building immense and numerous barracks. Sir L ?IL\ [ILES POLE said, there certainly existed no necessity for such enormous grants to the naval asylum, *ltem there were' only ISO baps — and 40 girl, to he provided for, at the head of whom was Dr. Clarke, the .kuditor of the Asylum. whose du ties and labour were prohably far inferior to that of any Vestry Clerk i.s London. The CruNtst.Loa of the EXCIIIt.QCT.R thought it might be of advantage to procure fresh estiinutes, but did not see why that should hinder the I irmse now from granting the sum moved for by his Hight Hononrable Friend. Sir J4lllOl NEWPORT was not fond of giving large grunts of MOlity, ou unsure grounds ; he should, after the rAiinates were furnished, be bet ter inelined to join in the present motion ; but, from the unmerous evils he loud known to arise from granting sinni much greater than were really necessary, he marl!, us so amendment to the Madan, that 50001. should be substituted for 30,i,nia. In this Mr. lluskis<on agreed; end the sum a yibot. Only wax VOte'l as the supply neces sary far the iininediute demands of the Naval Asylum. The House then resumed, and the report was brottOt up, and ordered to be rece:Pal on Mon dav next. Mr. Howse& lamented that certain statements, relating to grants of (smitten-MI licenses, had not been laid before the Home, which had come time ago, now upwards via month, been promised, on his stating the reason of his demand. It had been his intention to move, that 'the fees Isitherto de manded on these licenses should be withdrawn.— Ile, therefore, gave notice, he would on Monday more au Address to His Majesty, praying that the Minutes of the Lords of the Privy Council, with respect to the levying certain fees on the grant of Cottitnerial Licenses, should be laid before the 'loose. A'AnN Et presPntrl an acconut of the sur plus of tae Coasolidated Fund to the sth of April SOft. 31r. Hostrssow said he was happy to ,inform the I louse, this very considerable sum now lay to tally at the disposal of Parliamem, and informed them he should subunit this account on Monday neat to the Committee of Ways and Means. Sir Juno NEWPORT said, he hoped he would ever bet his face aoiust prodigal and unnecessary grants of money from the public funds; that such grants had very generally been made, the House were very well apprised. Ile hoped to be able to skew this in • very important branch of the com mercial establishments of Ireland. lo the Linen Board, not only those guilts had beeu iiniaudently and extravagantly made, hut situations of the highest emolument and responsibility were given to persons totally unacquainted with the business or Trams of the office in which they were placed.— ln instance the place of luspector-Geueral of the Linen Maud had beeu conferred on • young lad in the College of Dublin, who must be totally unacquainted with the interests of the lineu trade. Ile therefore moved the (louse, "That a Copy of the Minute) , of the proceedin g s of the Linen Board, relative to the sums voted to Mr. Parke, Architect to that Board, for the erecting certain buildings in the Linen Hall of Dublin, - 13 e furnished to the House; also the authorities under which the se vend grouts had been made ; the official appoint ments that haul taken place ; and accounts of the several complaints which had Leen made to that Board agaiust frersout holding officio' situations under it. ' Sir A RTUVII WET LtSLEY said, he had only to regret the absence of Mr. Foster, at a time when such in:Urination had h!en required; he admitted, haat-err, due notice had been fairly Liens of the Right Honourable Baronet's intention. The papers were ordered to be furnished. Sir A. Wsur.e.str moved the third reading of the Irish Duties Bill; but, on the sugestiou of Sir John Newport (we suppose) the Bill was suf fered to lie over. The CHANceri.mt of the Excimovva moved Ire ilonse should resolve itself into the Committee of Ways and Means on Monday, and tbat.the House should at its rising adjourn to Monday ibex!. t*N 'LATERAL ARTICLE. MT. WHITCRII.AD rose to make his promised motion for certwin tapers, which he had not known vi be in existznce, but, for tha Nohie Lord's (Lord t.. L (lower) mentioning them in a debate which took place on the 29th of March last. He thought the late unwillingness to grant infortna lion on the most important subjects, reflected Featly on the character of His Majesty's Ministers, and uniterially injured the public service. There was, lorvePer, yet a greater crime, that of falsifying the intention and meaning of persons of the first distinction and ability iu the realm. In grants gf papers fur the public information, ha admitted the exclusive power sloarld remain in the possession of His Majes . ty's Ministers. lie should . not, 14.0 s fore, attempt to palliate the tuner in whico the mention of these papers had been introduced iuto the House ; for certainly the Noble Lord, when communications hail been made on the subject of hie dispatch, had no right to make any further corn intmicatiou on that head, which might probably in volve His Majesty's Minister n perplexity. TheNo- We Lord had been twice employed on the mission to the Court of Peteniburgh. After his inikion in 1805, on the death of that great and able states man, Mr. Pitt, the Sccretary (Lord Mulgrave) had thought tit, unsolicited; to throw ou the table of the House a mass of u n arrunged papers, which all admitted were extrerudy improper, nay, den. germs, to i.e at any time submitted to public in spectimi. Out of this grant there certainly arose abundant matter of .inculpation against His Ma jesty's Slinistsrs; and had it not been for the de parture of that Noble Lord from the Councils of the King, together with all those who composed the then Miuistry, he would not have escaped without some obsersatiun. The Noble Lord (Gower) should of all men have been the last to have recalled to our recollection, by any statement of his, the afflicting circumstances in which he had been the means of involving almost all the then iudependent part of Europe. He had been the arranger and official agent of that niiiious con federney, by which two great and independent povrers k were annihilated in Europe. When again Minister ut st. Petersliurgh, the Noble Lan[ had reil Mired of that court the secret articles of the treaty of Tilsit. A stninge request surely from one who had just before signed on, article with that Court, which was even to lie concealed trona our old illy, Austria. If he had been required to make this known, there could be scaice a doubt exist ing but he you'd have spurned the idea. This article was, that the allies should take the field as soon ns they could bring into action nearly 400,000 men, though net less than 500,000 men hail been stated as absolutely necessary to Austria ; Mato come mere directly to the yitestion at issue : There, it seemed, had beets aa agreement entered into, in order to induce the Russians to co-operate with us, and other allii s, on the continent, that after a cessation of hostilities, a conference should take place fnr the puninse of new modelling the Laws of Nations, in which the Russian Pleuipo teiitiary should be at liberty to remonstrate against that part of the laws of nations by which Englund would stand to the last, without ever conceding one jot, or one tittle; Auinely, her maritime rights. This had, since the late disagreeable affair on the Continent, been widowed as a proof of the latent malignity of Russia, and her intentions to destroy the maritime superiority of this country, whereas it has been tuore justly supposed (for though that i louse hail not the article itself, _they were perfectly ap prised alt. content4,l to have been then hell set by our Ministers to the HU8P11111.,11.? a means of stimu lating them toilet in concert with us, a sm .,•; es o f sacrifice to obtain a certain advantage. Ile u as, therefore, anxious this article should lie before the House In some tangible shape. It coacereed the honour of borne of kiis present Majesty's i tasters. It coucerued Ultimately the greet interests • el this maritime nation. It became the liguity of that tious to inquire into this promised sacrifice of th e nial rights, bat the Noble Lord (Gower) had further added, he was aware of the 'meet hostility of Russia to this country, and this, be stated, he had from the most indisputable authority. Thi , assertion had come rather, late, and w h en i t came the House had received nothing but the asserno:,, without the authority itself. Much had been said, and that very ingenioesly; on the conduct of a ten. win Lord, (Hutchinson ' ) whose evidente on th e dipositiou of Russia had been opposed to thst of the Ambassador. That Noble Lord hail ereuitted himself to the-satisfaction of all who knew him, mi d had essentially served the interests of the country, although a Right lion. Gentleman had said, th e Prussian King bad at least bamboozled the Ne ble Lord who hail buck a great anxiety for holdino conversations with crowned heads. Lord ilutchie! son had toot sought fur any commuiiiesstio u p , 6 Sovereigns, he had been expressly comasissione: t o hold them by his Goverutneut. It had hot' also said, the Russian Emperor had sudi ciently displayed his secret hostility to the country, and predilection in favour of France, by that expression he made use of t o tL : s Noble Lord—" Make peace, make peace with France."—The contrary was to be inferred; for the Emperor had accompanied it by • statement, that he knew Bonaparte wished to treat on equitable terms. Lest the Noble ci-devest AtubasauJor should object to the production of all his secret correspondence with the Secretary of State, h e should confine the motion so as to demised only such extracts as should be of service to the inquiry instituted. Ile theu moved, " That an Address be presented to Its Majesty, praying that a Copy of a certain paper, termed a :mi.-lateral article, deli vered by the Russian Minister to our Minister at St. Petershargh, on the I Ith April, 1805. respect ing our maiitime r4lsts ; ane also certain letters which had paesed between the Foreign Secretary of State and the British Atobassador, •at the Court of St. Petersburgle be ordered to be laid before this House." Lord G. L. °cwt.& said he was happy the Hon. Member had given him thus publicly an opportu nity of disavowing, on the part of His Majesty's servants, in 1805, any intention of yielding up the maritime rights, and abaudoning the interests of this country. He hoped his }Right Hon. Friend would give up the papers iu justice to his charac ter, awl that of that great man who so long had guarded the welfare of this country. If the ertele were produced, it would chew the truth of this . statement, mid the fidelity of the Minister. He thought the present an improper time to go jute the merits of the treaty of lotOS, or else he could, verhspv, urge very strong seasons fur its conclu sion. It was rather strange, however, to think of de manding from the King the private correspondence of tiny two men who happened to be in His Ma jesty's service. If the lion. Member thought he liad'not done his duty to the country.. why bad he not preferred a vote if censure against him in that House? This would have been candid. In those letters many things might have been said in con fidence, nay, even names mentioned, which it would be very unfair to demand publicly to be exposed. La • preceding debate. he had, itmigis troo o stoted a circumstance which had come to his knowledge from a moat respectable authority. respectiag the disposition of Romig, but in this he had made no allusion to any dispatch whatever. He admitted the lion. Secretary hid, in one of his letters, been wade acquainted with even the name of tile panne on whose authority he founded the statement. He should feel not the least objection to the first port of the present motion, if the latter were omitted; he should add, as an amendment, to aeosuimodate all parties, "and that such extra( is of the corre spondence of the British Ambassador at the Court of Vetersburgh, and the Secretary of State for Fo reign Affairs, as relate directly to the mud' be also before the Howie." _ _ Mr. 11 HITLIIttiAD then rose, sad animadvertei upon the observations of the Noble Lord. It was, in his opinioa, highly absurd to cal this a private letter, and yet to say that Missilery* were to coedit( t the public bustnesa by meanest such private letters, and afterwards say, that upon that accouitt they could not be communicated to the ,House. The only information the House Ind yet contenting it. was from the Noble Lord himself, *pen a former occasion, telling the House that he had comae nicated,in a private letter to the Secretary of State, that Russia was to be !it war with England, be cause he had heard these words 'uttered by same body. Had the Right Hon. Centlemau not been Secretary of State, would he have got such a let ter ? lie got it in his °akinl capacity, and there fore in duty to the pnblic his was hound to prodiver it. They were the first to speak of it theitnielva., but when the House chose tee call for it iu a tilt gible shape, they were to be told it was a private letter, and therefore could got be preduci.l. 'filen why should the House have been culled upon to rut., upon it ? He could not help feeling some what iudiguant at such a mode of Helpmeet, suil . would then:titre still persist in his intenti o f tukitig the seem. of the House upon the sithjeet- Sir THOMAS TLIRTON spoke iii favour of the inneuelment. Mr. LIERBFILT supported the original motion. Mr. IrVINDHAM said the document culled Ito. an official l'arliamentary proceeding. and net private letter, since the house were made tt.:- quainted with its existence, in support of ite 4 t - meats in a debate. if the privacy of a doeittuo , : was to protect Ministers from producing it, thel they might conduct the vt bole public busittess It) private yorroapoudenee, sod retest to give U. Ilottaenny information at all. taight pro.`':' great publw: evils. by. levying Illitlibterb fount ti. general responsilidttj. It was surely quite unrea sonable for Its. 'Majesty's Minister abroad tr` quote what lie called a pi-trete left; r, in order to influence the jtithotteot of the lo.ise, a:.l :.- tetwattls argue that they hod not n ri t ait to call rot •• It had been alreimly found to he protitieust. . great public izietwivtt.iett, e, i/3 it perm ciet 3,1 lie inquiry. Such indeed am. the case ni tct . I Itistings . ll trial , where this %cry point m for Ulider the pretence of pri vute I 0rr...,10:ti.!ti...'• , great pol tiina uf the atlairs of the :.ask