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A short conversation took place upon a pro ate Bill, between the Duke of Norti,lk, the Isdarqus of , Hertford, and Lord Auckland'; - after which tLe'Bi7.l.. was committed for Tuesday oe.t. Mr. Alexander, andotheis, latought up the Silver. Bullion Bill, the %Alan Common Bill, the Scotch Schoolmasters' Bill, and the Dysart Harbaur which were perused, and read a first time. . NEGOTIATION. Lord BORINGDON rose and aemarked, that there were passages in his Majesty's Declaration, accompanying, the papers laid upon the table by his Noble Friend, the Secretary of State, on Wed nesday, which were not supported by any vouchers to be found among these papers. For instance, “ violence has been offered in several instances, in their vessels aad in their property, and in no case has justice been afforded to those who may have been aggrieved in consequence of such aft' ; nor has any satisfaftory answer been given t..) the re peated representations made by his Majesty's Minis ters, or Ambassador at Paris.' It was highly im portant, that the House should be informed what these representations were, and therefore, his Lord ship said, he should take the liberty of moving for a copy of them. Another matter, his Lordship ob. : served, upon which the papers were silent was, the arrest and imprisonment of Captain D'Auvergne, an officer in the British Navy, who had been in the most unprecedented manner suddenly seized and thrown into prison, without its ever having been publicly known upon what ground it was, that an officer in his Majesty's service had been so grossly 'lnsulted. A third point was, there was no &cu . meat to support or justify the assertion in his Ma jesty's Message of March the nth, o That very con siderable military preparations were carrying on. in tista forts of France and Holland," which was r :wed as the ground of calling upon the country fir an arniament. Another matter, xis Lordship said, report spoke of, and that was, that a (Ware prOje l i had been handed to Ministers since Lord Whitworth Wt Paris. If so, it was highly necessary that the House should have that paper before them, previous to their entering into the debate on Monday next. Lord Boringdon concluded with moving thr,the ac count of the papers relative to the first objeer he had mentioned. Lord PELHAM said, he could have no sort of objetion to the first motion of his Noble Friend, but it he would have the patiettee to wait till he could prepare !Prose( by an enquiry, he might pos sibly be able to state, on Monday next, what the re presentations which had been made by his Majesty's Ministers on that subject were, ap4 perhaps be ena bled to lay them upon the table. With regard to the second point, that respeUing Capp. D'Auvergne; as that affair had been accommodated, it did not ap pear to him to press upou the question that woule come into debate next Monday; he should not, there fore, think it necessary to say more upon that. With respea to what his Noble Friend had said, as to report of a ,aortecissajet revealing Malta, and the conditions on which his Majesty would he allowed to hold it for ten years, he would not deny the 110, that such a paper had been communicated to his Majesty's Ministers; lit then it was handed to them in so secret, so cwdidential. and so nnothcial a man . ner, that it would be highly improper for his Ma jesty's Ministers to /ay it before the House, and lie begged leave to caution the House against relying upon it as a basis of any negotia:ion wnarever. Lord IJORINGDON said, after his Noble Friend had in so candid a manner explained himself, as to the first point which he had mentioned, and pledged himself on a foture day to give the House every sa -1 tisfactioa in his power, he had not the smallest hesi titian in giving his consent tti the witheirawine - ' motion, provided that the Holfsehad no , With respea to the second, it might not poasibly absolutely necessary to press it,and thereti shoulsi nut persist in It. With relation to Noble Friend had said resyetzling a meta, certaialy, it' the paper in question had been vet ed . in a secret aad conasieutial manner, gether unofficial, it would be improper to urge his Noble Friend tardier; he, thanked his Noble Friend.for his open and reply, and stould troublo the House-nu • . r FI'IZwILLIAm rose 1‘111.141i s of his Ma. Ne t proceeded. at soine d lengtleto state j a ee n ty y d'sareu'DcnciilartitasatoonteWhfoiuclardwamereo.nng.utthseuppappoerrtes laid db i y d on the table. His Lordshipspoke in so very low a tone, that not one word in twenty that he littered could be heard below the bar. We understood from ,Lord Pelhetn's reply, that the matters his. Lori Ship referred to, were . the state of armament • and niilitery preparation that France had assumed, •• when his Majesty's Ministers thought themselves called 'urea to advise the King to send doe-ii the Message delivered by Lord Pelham on the ttth of, March last, their interference respelling Switzer ..l land, the Cape of Good Hope, and the Republic of the lonian sea, and the remonstrances made 'by the British Government against the h irst Consul's sending French forces into Holland. Lead in reply, answered the several • topics urged by the Noble Earl in their order. He . sell his Majesty'e Ministers could have no objeaion to the fullest enquiry iato their conduCt; but he did not apprehend that an enquiry into their conduct - necessarily Made a part of the matter that would come under discussion on Monday. That when his' Majesty's Ministers advised his' Majesty to send down t his Royal Message of the huh of March, they, for reasons resulting from communications, which could Only be. known to themselves, thought it their in dispense. Isle duty to give such advice. That L. to their conduct respeaing Switzerlaed, the Cape of Good Hope, and the lonian Republic, these might ' be fit subjects for future enquiry, but were ne, im mediately calling for investigation. That with re gard to the stading French troops to Holland, he had in his hand a paper on that subjea, which, if the Noble Earl had not unseen when he did, he should have immediately. laid upon Ike table, .sb 'which he had, no doubt wonl e t.smewer every purpow ' the Noble Earl wished fpr. The Earl of CARLISLE rose . and said, he co-. ineided completely in every syllable, quit his Noble' Friend (Earl Fitavvilliam) had uttered,' and thought the papers which he had alluded to highly ne cessary so be laid before the House.; but he could not but express a 'wish, that the papers had not been now move for,. because he was anxious that 4 the . great and impure:tut subjed . to come ender dis cession on Moiulay,..Should t e debated exclusively Of all colLeterate matter. The papers stated 40 adverted to by hiala7ehle File n& Were essentially . necessary for the infortnation of the Heine, in their futiire deliberations, but in his humble judgment, not necessary fur -their Lordships 'to advert to in the debate, which WAS 40 •take• place on 'Monday.. •The whole and single ground of that day's debate would lie, whether that How, ie *sows; between. this . country and France, would stand by thole Sovereign, and support. the honour and dignity o: his crown, :tad the interests Of his people: On such a question Ins Lordship_ said, there could be but .oce opinion, and he hopertTiiliroiiietar, fiot rm . mediately relevant, would he suffered to ineerfere. so as to break or disturb the unanimity that he trusted would be manifested. It was that, para mount occasion which imperiously called• upon their loyalty, their love for their Sovereign, and their reatchment to the British constitution, to evince tee most ardent zeal, and the most deter- . mined firmness. Lord HO BART said, that he was halspy in hear ing such sentiments from the Noble Earl, in whiCh he flattered himself, the whole country participated. There could e he hoped, be no British subjed, who could feel differently, when a question of such int-. portance was at issue betweese France and Great Britain. With regard to the conduit of his •Majes- , ty's Ministers, during the Negotiation, he did not scruple to admit, that in so arduous, delicate, and difficult a business, there might be parts of their' multi& highly questionable ; but sure he was, 'that they had endeavoured to discharge their duty in' the manner most conducive to -support the honour and divinity of his Majesty's Crown; and the-true iaterests tehis people. They were so confident of the reaitusk 'of their intentions, that they wore -willing to meet any enquiry that might be instituted ineotheir whale conduct, dad trusted to the ceudour and justice of. this House, and the public iii general, for their ac quittal. Earl FITZWILLI AM said a feu words in re ply, in the course of which, he adverted to the whimsical plan (for so we understood him to term r it) of his Noble Friend, (Earl Stanhope) of send ing an army under sea from Fiance to invade this ecountry, which he considered as a matter rather of Utopiiin speculation, than serious Argument. Earl STANHOPE rose upon this, and said, as the Noble Earl thought proper to treat ) what he had' thoughtit important to communicate to the House with a degree of levity, to which it was not credit , ed, he felt it necessary to say, that he never had in eitneted any thing like the idea of a prejeeled sub marine armament being sent from France to in vade this country. It was too absurd esi idea, for any man of common sense to entertain for a single moment. What he had learnt upon the su;eied was 'of the utmost iinportanee in hie judgment. It was eqta'tlly improper to be communicated to. the pub lie and unnecessary. lie had his information re speding it from men of- scierteeeted profiMod know.: I ledge, and he had communicated it to three of the ;;EIOSt respectable of their Lordships, who had i proniised him to take the matter into consideration. Ilene three were Peces perfealy independent in their characters, men wholly' unconneaed with him, who never aand with him in pOlities,and who there `fore might be looked•up to as impestial judges on. the occasion. Theauhject, therefore, being us such , hands, though he could fully explain upon what grit - miis he proceeded, he' felt it more prudent to abstain from any explanations iespeding it in pub.' liee . , , Lord BORINGDON rose to order. He appealed , tie the Noble and' Learned Lord, whether the Noble Earl uses in orde!,, or reeking to , the question ? Earl S I'ANHOPE said, he was: conscious that ate inept-oer. He- understood the orders as the Noble Lord did; his .mole Words, and sat down. se and said, he concurred en- Noble. Friend, who lately sat 'eel of Carlisle). He wished' 's. upon. the teble to lit eon , ell collateral matter. TWO sobjea, in the view which, waw the cause between the. Britain and the Republic of hecaust between his Malestfe country. These-Were two Mi te einina end separate c4n wtas • ieuestioa, to' be • every s - he was perteetly in order. d pledged Blest hesi- of the l-louse as welt w .awing hi s LordshiP added a few nui obi:akin. • Earl' 4PENC/Llt lose in all that his Ni iossibly be tirel/ t . et ' re, h e irirritirti, hachaid• (Earl o whet his tile subiecl of p 4l . 2 Apets art '14;4 lidered, exelasivelYot 0 been deli. queet . eonvarose neon ;be 3 d alto . he took of it : the one w f ‘sr hi vireigit of Gat Brit therefore, rtmc, the othet, the cal and candid inliters and this count ingr. but 'con:dilly detiations. Else first lII\ . .deel on More and he wished', in common •• * . with his Noble fiend, that the question, what.: ever it might be, should be voted Unanimous ly. The condo& of his Majesty's Ministers, during tha negotiation, might more properly be made the stihjeft of future investigation and discus sion. His Lordship argued with his Noble Friend t t on the Beach b4ow im, (Earl Fitzwilliam) in the necessity of hAvipg ';% information before them, relative to all the points his Noble Friend had men:. tioned, when the concht& of - his lifateityrs - Minister! should come under consideratioh. ' [Earl Fitzwiiliam, with leave of the House, de sired to withdraw his motion.] . The LORDCHANCELLORIeft the Woolsack to express his willingness to concur with the Noble Furl in withdrawing his motion, and with the Noble . Earl who 'had jits,t . Sat down, in thinking that the subjeet ratter restihing from the important papers oiti the table, world adult of two separate and dis- . tin& question,: With regard to the first, viz. the . cause between the Sovereign of this country and the 'French Repnblie, be should wonder of what sort. og stuff that man is composed, who .could, after an atteni!ive perusal of the papers .en the table, hest htte a Angle moment hi deciding, whether the ho. nour and dignity of his. 7+lajeistT'S crown, and the interests of his pe(iple„ ought to be mported or not; A's to the second ple.lion, viz. whether his Majesty's Ministers had condu,!tcd the negotiation ably, wisely',' and well, he admitted, that it wcurd he a tit Subjeg of future enquiry ; and he trusted, that whenever that enquiry to(* piace, it would be found that they deserved the thanks'itnd applause of their 'Country; rather 'than its _cfnstire: Sure he ' would, that , they howl been actuated by the best in tentions, and that in a. negotiation atten4od with._ tcircumstances. the most, arduous, delicate,• find dill. " ficult, that perhaps ever occurred, the° bad stre nuously exerted' their 'Most. ea'rtac..st endeavours to ' maintain the honour' and dignity of his Majesty's •. .croWn,:and die intereso of his übje&s. , The Mation of earl ritziilliank w,as withdrawn. Adjourned to Monday next. , HOUSE OF commoNs. , ittiDAY,,'MAY Mr. Pitt thii day stook, the oaths'sFurtiis scat for the University of Cambridge, but remained only for a short tune in the House... . The Bill fin- the Improvement of the POrt of Glasgow was read . aa. cold time, and ordered to be committed. • • ' Nc)TTiNGHAM ELECTI9N. Mr. I. H. BRONNE remarked cursorily on the very outrageous and' . unwarrantable proce;:dings diming the late pleaion for the town of Nottiugharn,, whiat Should - make the House be on its .guard agailiti a s;milar conduCt in the ensuing eleCtion. He was not, however, instruaed by the iCommittee, of ' - 'whic.ble bad the honour to be Chairman, to pro pose to the House an adoption of the remaining rt , r - solutions, they being satisfied with feelin g a faith , . fal discharge of their duty, arid hoping that the sub. tt je would be taken u p - by some other Member after Ncttingliam stiOuld .be fully represented. All he had to move at present was, That the Speaker should issue • his writ for a Member to represent the town of Nottingham, in the room of Joseph Birch, ' Esq. declared not duly eleCted,"—which was agreed. to. - -..- . A Report was, made fmm the Evesham Corn-. mittee, that the two sitting Members were dulyclea• cd, and that the petition .against them was not frivo. lons or vexatious. . . TtlE. MILITIA. The SECRETARY at WAR rose, in pursuance of a notice he had- previously given, to move for leave to brio. , in a Bill fcr the completion of the _Militia.rie c 'Would not, fir the - present, go into all the minute details which the House would have af terwards to consider of. He would, however, state, ' ti-at the main ()Nee& of it . ..Vas to complete the quotas of the different eounties,.and to facilitate the levy of the Supplementary Militia, whenever it should ap. 'pear by his Majt•sty's Proclamation that such a mca si.tre was deemed necessary. There was some satis faftion to find, that in less than three weeks after the notice had been issued, more than four-fifths of , the Mi4tia were eeltially assembled ; but, at the same time, he must not conceal from the House that there was a great deficiency in the quotas of several of the counties. Tie Bill, therefore, proposed to enable the deputy lieutenant to fill up all vacan cies, without any reference to the causes of absence. As the law stood before, they did not proceed to ballot for vacancies in less than a month after they ' wire declared, whereas now they would be filled up lo,thwith by the operation of this Bill. Before this, when vacancies were declared, the Lord Lieutenant summoned the magistrates, and the only penalty for the de.iciency was a fine of ten pounds a-year upon the parish. It was now proposed to transfer this power to the deputy lieutenants, and have the fine imposed and renewed at every Quarter Ses sions,. which would ,make a penalty of 401. per an- main instead: of 101. which he trusted would secure more effeaual returns, but the measure would not be more strong or effeBnal than may be necessary. Thai' were, he said, men who made a trade of en listinig and enrolling themselves in one regiment, and then deserting and enrolling themselves in ano- . ther. .To remedy this, the present bill would enable his Majesty to mate a proclamation, allowing such defaulters to come - in and; . join their respeetive regi ' ments before a given day, in which case they should be exempted from all penalty to former misconduEt. ' But with regard to such as may not return, the Se cretary at War was to publish lists of them, with their descriptions, through all parts of the kingdom, with rewards for their apprehension, and upon ht.- hag taken they should be mach; liable to serve his Majesty abroad. The parishes would not lose by the regulation to fill up the ballots forthwith ; for in • case the men at present absent should return, the persons drawn in the new ballot should be carried to account, and the same men would supply any fu ture vacancies. In the Supplementary Militia it was proposed, that nicn of the height of five feet two inches "should be admissible . , and the penalty for not appearing was to be extended from ten to fifteen pounds. It was also provided that his Majesty should have the power to embody them at any tare that might be thought necessary. without assembling 'his Pailiarnent. In future no seafaring people were to be admitted• into the Militia • and those now ern bbdied in it would be transferred to the Na% y, and the place of such transferred men would be supplied by subsitutes at the public expence. He then moved fbr leave. to bring in a Bill to . amend the Mt af the 424. of George 111. for the I Ir y L . l l yr ,