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I' llt 1,1 AM ENTART INTELLIGrNICE. 11')USE OF LORDS. Tut anar, 111Aacti 29. I I • 4 ~~ '1 1. to:o Mr. A. te-robell, and other Members from the Bowie of Cow- 1 i meat. , of a= the Olssgove Ges . lllllaea seeerai ptivate Bills, I whet Otoereid e first time. -. te d ccr . of the Trees. Adriad, from the Trerathro. presen wancei 44410:1111 , ...ues relative to tsp.tersi Supesenr.eattol. -110 • '' CATHOLIC CLAIMS. il • jig .STEM eard.LOIA , presented a petition front the Mayer. sailiß,tt aretCeefirtemeloi of the City Of Oxford, agair.st the Ca. Moho Clitious-Lair',*_.': tl,a :sidle,' EQUITAfILE LOAN BILL. • Tim Fend elf SHAFTESBURY presented a retition from the IstiVah of Alt Saints, Faisal, against the'Equintble Lasan Bill. ':r:. 1 . ... art oftLAUDCRDALE prmented a petition from the .... Ch:itchrierilirs. ilcuseho!ders, and others, of the parish of St. Paul, verrent-gorden. against the Equitable Loan Bill. Loot HOLLAND twesented a petition in favoor of the Bill, hum fiery-I , :e etifferers by the recent fire in the heose of a pawn braked named Blackburn No: 16 , Saffron-ER His Lordship ob served. that out of the fOrty.five persons from whom he presented the peition, there were only two who were able to write their own rums. They Stated, that by the extortions cr the pawnbrokers they were ohliged to pay no lean titan 210 per cent. on the sums they }ammo. do and that in consequence el the late fire (on which sot,etr. the Lat.: , ..lature had never interfered) they had lost the greater ;sin of what they possessed, and had Etc:. reduce) to the . ffe.it-.. , ... t misery. They stated also, that during e`C past year three tees i a 'the betimes of pawnbrokers had reduced many oocrhorrowas . en aped ditortset. He admitted the general principle, that private eperuirionot between man and man ought nut to be the subjects of lagedadve treneroee; but as this was a peculiarly hard case, he had fad it Lis duty to present the petition. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, that the pawnbrokers had rinentionelueed their rates of interest. L. , ro f 11)LLAND el . :served, that he was sure the person who talaerad 00 petition in his hancl'would not have done so, if he had tact heetoperfeetly certain of the truth of the assertions contained a' : lilt., 'l."ie reinter was then laid on the table. int GitOSHEI4OII rose to present a petition from an indivi• deli proyii.g that the House would enact measure• effectively to pihrreot all cruel eetwriments ea animals ; but, hie Lordship ob. serv-u.as tie petition contained mattered which he did not altogether . •Oprovc-lit would not "impose that it be laid upon their Lent-a/tips' tables • Ho w et; Id howeves take adeantage of the opoertvnity thus write dim cf slating that he wee not one r . bo treated the subject I'. L., glen thought it worthy the serious attention of their Alit,. ,Le would not say that at the preset 111019rWt he would , 14 iooliocd to legislate upon it. although a time might come when lilt irOuttl feel it hik duty to wish the contrary. Ile thought bow . rifer ! .. trit atollonsoirable Member of the other House bed :lone good sec.ice to the cammey in hrir.ging before Parliament the Bill for .iroventing firvelty to Animals, although be (Lord Grosvenor) did r...!: thi-O it gouid be right altogether tn orevert experiments on aetntnl;-exocriments which frequently led to the most beneficial remits and the, w.ost veluable discoveries ; fez example, the chol la:ton of :t-- Wood and the tying of the arena. Lo-d HO irLAND presented a petition from Margate against the Mareate Ga.,..ngbe Bill fJo - tbe ma, ion of Lord AIELVILLE, the Scotch Juries Bill, with the erementacnet, were'sgreed to, and the 8111 was ordered to bee agased. The House then adjourned. • MOUSE OF COMMONS, Teem:tat, Melton 29. . 'ooed B.iGWELL presented a petition from Dahlia for leave tart:rine M a Nu to establish a Fishing Company in Dublin.- Orefacirto Ito on the table. Ilk. CAToTAORPE presented a pedion . from the Tropical Ease Aorber4 . omnpariy, rraying to he allowed to sue and be sued * the name of theirletremry.-Ordered to In en t'te table. WEST INDIA COMPANY BILL. Mr. MA lIRYAT proposed the secocd retdieg of the West Indio Company Dill. fri r. F. BUXTON opposed the sewed rmding,. not on the irrotrn,l of its being a ,tilot stock cnomano. but on pun eiple, be cau:sz this Cow:play was mteblithed to ITiee in slave,; it gave the pdher to purchase 40,0t* of our fellnw-creaturn. Sir. ROBERTSON was surprised that the Him. Member, who , von the champion of so many of the new co:genie*, should offer aly op : mtition to a Bil: which was calculated to do much good to the retro Imeuisdon of ear %West India islands. AlOordian THOM psoN briefly supported the 13i11. He said it only granted the power of ruing and being sued in the name of 111Sik Secretary. Mr. HUME could not conceive what objection there ehoull be to rant this Compeny the same privilege which bad been granted Sittiont hmitatinn to twenty other Companiee. Mr. W. SMIT/1 objected to the Ed], beeettee he considered it a mocopoly el' the worst dew:rimier. fie :coked upon it rather as a puhlic than a private BM. :... El GLICIi, vappotted the Bill, and- Afmr a few Wr......A.S from Mr. Huila. ;did Mr. Alawatwo, the R.ll wet read a whorl time, and ordered to be committed. ROMAN CATHOLIC EMANCIPATION BILL. Mr. H. DAVIES presented a petition from Bristol against any &silo" concessions to the Roman Catholics; also a similar petition tram the 'Ministers and Chutchwetdetis of .he parish of Bedminster, (roomy of Setnerach-Ordered to he on the rehlo. SALMON FISHERIES. Co/rinel WOOD prescoted a petition [rem Glamagenshim, compleioing of the destruction of 5a1...r00 by the erection of weirs. The Hon. Slembet said he thought salmon a species of ettional visedsh, and their total destruction a kind Meatier* evil-Ordered to 9S on th e table. - • ' 13LAEPSENTOUS PUBLICATION'S. • . HUMS "reverted a petition from Richard Carlile, cun r• of unjust . 1171 Prisormefils and or having had various conies t, Je 40 kii taken, 'tinder pretence of teim: blasphemous, which the imaltioner cootend..d were by no means . of a leavpiienious character. Amongst the incite taken were 2M copies of " Cebbe:es Register," and =iv eoplettpf a Voleey's Ruin of Empirei." The petitioner aged-the Ileusdto fake these dicer:stet:Wl endemics most serious tonsidenition. and take sorne stems to put him in possession of his property, which bad been illvaliy sell:ad and detained by Govern meet. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, the Hon. Member who presented the petitich was altogether miso.ken if he supposed that tl'ealtenerljalleged .to have beam seized was in the possession of his'olejestyk Government. The property was seised by the Sheriff In the Mieution of his duty; and if it had been badly appropriated, the Sheriff and not his Majesty'. Government was responsible, and the petitioner had hit remedy in a Court of Justice. Mr. &metal? PEEL observed, that it would be impossible to lay dean any merits! rule in cases of Oats nitrite. As to the parti cular individual fat question, nothing multi exceed the violence of the conduct. He Co r. Peel) het no wi.,h to see Carlile detained in cost Ody leoger then the circumstances of tr e ease might seem to re ctum The siitor of this man was set free br his Majesty's Go. emeotnent to soon as the period had expired which was deemed eoutvalent to the Site that she had teen sentenced to pay. So much the emarary of submission to the laws was the conduct of this man, teathe cotoopted persons in the neighbourhood of his prison, :.nd thttregh their astetty canderaesl the eirentrion of his books. This eartaittly wee en •easen wrbt he shauti be kept for ever in confine. tem but if. Mitred of doing all in his power to violate the law, he had-yielded with batwing submission to io. decision, no severity *MO have been exereixd towards bin?. With reference to that 11Q.a.e being yelled on to interf•re, he. thought they should be very reldOthot indeed to meddle with the tvittr,:e lit criminal justice. lilt. HUME replied, that the petition:4 :rierely prayed that the lav which aoplied to Ms ewe should be co: vetoed. lie knew that Cati.le had made two attifiitp/4 nooession of hie property. but he dad not know top whtrge 14 law it had been detained. A ti .m him. He thmeghe til t . -4:10.111 a hard one, and knew c. t haw he could abode rod The petition was rhea EtOtiglHl4l,..atid ..rdered to lie on the mote.. . - a • , Mg. HU3IE moved for it return of the persons practising as ape- the:axle. to England and Welts, with the number of certificate, granted and the sums. rectiocd, together with the application of 1!1041e momit.....Orelzretl. • TtTlitE-IRELAN . D. '3 Jo NEWPORT eon to present a petition from certain land. enter sea in the county of Calk, complaining of the herded'', and op. loonier' thee endured ift belr.g brought a distance of ffil miles to tea Bishopli Coortio &fend suits for tithe*, when the same might hate het* recovered" on applie.irkn to any Magistrate residing w ithia.A. rent s Arabi peeio , - • - •-• o.Oleavelsh- "here mere Ilfoe 142 ;" ;titivates within the distract, a ::,- v.v. m' whom might have decided the gaestiao—The petition war ti•en brought up, and ordered to lie on the tab!s. ...; . FQ:ITY SH ILI-INGS FREEHOLDERS. Mw. LITTLETON gave der:cc that on the 14th of April 1. , wonid move for leave to being in a B:11, limiting the elective tram. er.isit:n - Irmlsald: RO*lo . l CATHOLIC CLERGY. Lard F. L. (;tlWES.yase notice. that an the 20th of April he would more fat lets* to-Sring in a Yill to make provision for the R %Men' etithe.ic ciergyligreiamet. meam a . eg mo o ed e.etain returns relative to stamp duties ie.•lteheagh-Ordireet. Mr. ;LUCE, in presp4pgitpetitioe. from • number of re ettectoble merchacts sou lit ; ele.o: the arty of London on the sub. ;a,:: of the Vero ...sows, aald that it was likely to be followed up by S*7OC3l o'bera of a shelter tender cy. St far from its being *ban. oi.getsuo that moiety of lifo. a quarter 'theta t be imposes:l open foreign earn. it were'routth What that. the Caro Lade should remain uoal. Mod, Sis lE.PARNBLL tatty pesepene h..; motion relative to the Corn Lowe. MT. FILTSKICSON rote, but Thirr/PEA.F,ER iota/paled and said. that the question being on the *tinging tap of a poutioo, it was not in order then to alter tee noaitte of a morion. . . Ms..it RlO 4 2 Zltil!, thin no fliateal:ory arrungement yield be reeda trail they kaew what was to be :he duty imposed no foreign a he Trztta.,, was tins broacht tto- PA11.14 tb.:n ratans/ed. that in wr.recrience of the cr.l ior tits day when he was to e 7, or' pht Lrw...7:1 ha inution rt'vire to Ilia Corn itr/Il s he thi% iron :he I a) theAletla of April. Anciviltn - rneMP33N rose to prestat a Petition frown num bs* vl Corn Ci:y of Lohtlon. praying that-Bonded riight De wr , i, ht , T.e:r7:rript.ci, !reinject to twrtaia - te- Mr. IiIISIE rose tonro;e for additional papers, with a view to obtaining further information with respect to the war in India. The papers already laid on the table of that House by his Majesty's Ministers, afforded information so scanty. that even a person already well acquainted 'it'll East lotiis affairs would be but little enlightened by them. Of how much less advantage must they be to those who had not previously given much attention to the sub ject. He therefore wished for more papers, that lie might be sufficiently informed on the subject before the Recess was over. lite would therefore move for copies of all papers relative to the Burmese War, and to recent events at Chittagong. He would likewise move for all papers respecting the occupation bf Chapore by the East India Company, returns of the revenue derived there from, and of the troops maintained on that island. lie ex pressed his hope that the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite would not object to granting the information which he sought. lie further thought it important to know whether the treaties in question existed or not. and he trusted his Majesty's Ministers would not object to afford every information upon the subject which it was in their power to give. Mr. ROBERTSON began to express his desire for some more definite ioformation on the subject of the Burmese War, when Mr. WYNN rose to order—He felt it necessary to object to the latitude the Honourable Member (Mr. Robertson) seemed dis posed to indulge in. The question before the House was for the production of certain papers which had no connexion whatever with the subject of the Burmese War; and he thought is necessary to deprecate the course about to be pursued, not only on the ground of irregularity, but because it would be highly incoovenient to enter upon such a discussion on the present occasion and under existing circumstances. The SPEAKER understood the Honourable Member to hare risen for the purpose of seconding the motion of the Honourable Member for Slontrose (Mr. Hume). In such circumstances, it was necessary fur him to confine his observations to the subject of that motion. Mr. ROBERTSON• would repeat, he thought some more in formation was called for than had as yet been afforded the coantry. There existed, in his opinion, no just ground for the war carried on against the Burmese. The reasons adduced to support the pro ):riety of it appeared to him frivolous in the extreme. If there were any other causes or reasons, he wished them to be brought to light. The Burmese and the East India Company complained of muttual sggressieris. AR the statements on the subject were e. r-parte statements. 'the natives asserted they pout smd an ancient right to the possession of the Island (of Sharpore) invaded by the East India Company. The Governor-General, on the contrary, main tained it of right belonged to us, because it was situated nearer to our side of the river than to the Burmese. This was at best a doubtful mode of deciding the question, for on the same prin. ciple might France lay claim to the possession of Jersey and Guernsey. Sir R. 'WILSON wished for the information likely to be afforded by the papers moved foe by the Member for Montrose, previous to entering farther into the present discussion. After au observation from the SPEJACER and Mr. ROBERTSON respeo-ting the point of order, Mr. WYNN professed to have trot the least objection to the pro duction of the papers required. He had objected to a similar motion of the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Hume) the other night, merely on the ground that the documents required would throw no additional light upon the subject. With regard to one portion of the present motion, that for information respecting the amount of the revenue of the island of Sharpore, he thought that had nothing to do with the question. It was perfectly immaterial whether it produced a revenue of sor 5.000 rupees. With respect to another branch of information required by the lion. Member for Montrose, it would be utterly impossible to afford it unless the House were in a situation to explwer the Sergeant at Arms to bring the Emperor of Ara to their bar and examine him, touching the nature and amount of his resources. However, he (MeWynn) could have no objection to join in laying before the House all the information possessed by the East India Company upon the subject. With respect to the treaties which bad been alluded to, they were now in the press, and would be hid upon the table as soon as printed. After a few w. rds in explanation from Mr. HU ME, Copies of the papers were ordered. BUBBLE ACT. Mr. P. MOORE, in rising to move for leave to bring in • Bill for the repeal of the 6th of George I. observed, that capital to the amount of 160 millions was at present embarked in Joint Stock Companies. For his part he hoped it would be soon double and. treble that amount. He said this deliberately, notwithstanding all he had heard with regard to the specious and deceptive nature of the sekemes now prevalent. He was aware those were said to be bubble schemes, and coming under the operation of the Bubble Act. Ile had the honour to be a member of some "of those Com panies.ausi enulil say so far from Meriting the character they had received, lie behoved" them to be instituted for feasible and pro mising purposes, and that the highest principles of probity and integrity actuated the parties connected with them. Holding such an opinion of the majority of those Companies he was naturally desirous of discussion, because that would set the public right with ! respect to them. Government itself was interested in those Com panies which contributed to the increase of the revenue in the shape of stamp duties on the transfer of shares. Ile pledged him. self, if he obtained permission to bring his intended measure before the House to be prepared wick such reasons on the second reading of the Bides he trusted would be deemed satisfactory. He would not trouble the House farther at present than to ask leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the 6th George I. against undue practices its lend ing mcney on bottomi7, &c. The A'I'TORNEI •GENERAL said, the Act in question (the 6th of George I.) referred to a vast variety of different objects, among others it bore upon various rights and privileges of the city of London. An Act so complicated in its nature, and embracing so many distinct objects would require more consideration in an attempt to alter or repeal it, than appeared to have been given to Nate subicct by the Hon. Member for Coventry (Ma P. Moore). He would, therefore, feel it his ditty to oppose the introduction of the intended Bill. Mr. P. tilt ENFELL—The object of his lion. Friend (Mr. Moore) laid been to call the attention of the House to the state of the law as it related to Joint Stock Companies. The great uncer tainty and undefined nature of the law upon that subject could not fail to produce a coneriponding anxiety in the minds of the parties concerned. It would be well then to make the law de finitive upon the subject, the more to as the provisions of the Bubble Act never could be brought into operation on account of their severity. Last week he observed a new Company started, at the head of which stood the name of • Prince of the blood royal. Another Lotnpany was supported by the Archbishop of Canter bury, and the entire Bench of Bishops. It was monstrous to sup pose that those high and venerable personage should be left liable to a premuoire under an obsolete Act of Parliament, for being con nected with a Joint Stock Company. It was perf,ictly necessary that some regulation should be introduced for the purpose of making the subiect intelligible. 31r. ROBEEITSON thought the High Personage alluded to, and the Archbishops and Bishops, no more entitled to an exception in their favour, or protection agemst the operation of an Act of Parliament, then the meanest subject of the realm, Mr. ELLICE would vote in favour of the introduction of the Bill, without pledging to support it on the second reading, till he should have lowed its particular object. The Act which it was intended to reveal was nothing more nor less than en Act to set up one great bubble at the expence of pulling down all others. In the House of Ludt and in that House the most litters! sentiments had beam ext/owed by his Majesty's Ministers and others on the sub jest of Joint Stock Companies. It Thad been said. let individuals establish Compiutiesysmaltgemit the seine Jim liable to al/ the rireVentlselitielit upOn - Triudulent transactions, it inch should o t mitted. But in another place an alum bad been excited, and peopte had bean warned agunst entering into what he thought were generally beneficial schemes and undertakings. He repeated be looked on the majority of those Companies as beneficiaL sod thought Whetter for individuate to invest their surplus capital in them than to equimiter it in lending money to Foreign Power., who had been bankrupts half a dozen times alrtroly and were likely to .be so again. In all mutters of this kind it would be much better to let trade and commercial mitten tied their own level. At the time when every encouragement bail been given to trade with the Spanish Colooles in that House, opportunities had been taken in the Court of Chancery to hold out doubts and suspicions on the subject of the risk to be so incurred. It was stated nothing defi nitive had been datermined on with respect to the recognition of the independence of the South American States, and that consequently those whet traded with then] did It at their own peril. A similar coursehan been pursued is the same, place with respect toJoint Stock Companies. The public were warned, and every obstacle thrown in the .way of their success. It was titles: that a stop should be put to this: the public should understandlite course to be pursued. As he saw no better opportunity ter tharporpose th an would be &Worded .11; the discussion on the introduction of the present Hal; he wuald therefore support it in its preliminary stage, unless the Hon. (letterman opposite would take upon hint to state whr.her Havernmest intended to interfere upon the subject. • .Me. J. P. °RANT thought the sulject one of great imputtance. He could not take upon himself to say what •would be the situation of Joint Stock Companies under the operatioS of the mamma law, cam if the fith ef Heorge I. wern repealed. The (louse ter a ought . render the k w upon tire subject noire clear, or a ter if it mought proper ; b ut h e h o p e d i t would consider we before it repatiNt an Act, co n t a i ning , among ot h er matt two charters. Under those circumstances, he ',mold reeommind the Hon. Menthe (Mr. Moore) to consent to withdraw his motion. 31r. PEEL said there were a number of classes in trie Act sought to be repealed which bore no rekrence to the siabject in sues:ton co the object intended to be effee.'.ed by the MerSiber for _ ~ _, Mr. 'Secretary andin a low tone of voice said, that a Right Hon. Friend of his gave notice that lie would move the adjournment of the House on to-aura. It hid, bow. ever, since been intimated to him that it would be for the conveni ence of public business that it should sit on Thursday ; it would therefore sit on that day prd Arta ; and he now moved that on Thursday the House do adjourn to that day fortnight.—Motion i agreed to. COMBINATION LAWS. r Mr. lIUSICISSON rose to move for the appointment of a Select Committee to consider the effect of the repeal of the Combination ; Laws. It was rotorious that since their repeal several artirans acted in a most illegal manner. To these acts of insubordination he would call the attention of the House. They had abused the I concessions made to them. They hid, he was sure, acted in via. • lation of the spirit of that la* introduced for their relief. (Hear, hear.) 15'hen the Hon. Member for Aberdeen (Hr. Hume), early in last Session, moved for a Committee en the Combination Laws, he did not oppose its appointment. He eenceired them a fair sub. cct for inquiry. The laws as they stood on the Statute Book were intricate, perplexed, and difficult to be understood ; be looked on them therefore as deeerving of revision and amendment; although they Bewared to be equal and indifferent be. tween master and rervant, and although in theory they were so, yet in their practical operation they were far otherwise. (Hear, hear.) He conceived them also as calculated to IDw dissensions and keep alive little bickerings and heert-burnings. They were more likely, he thought, to aggravate differences than to hal them. The Coot. mince that saton the questiou was very numerous; it sate for a long time. The result was, they laid rte papers before the public on which the public anti parties may Num a judgment', but contented themselves with submitting certain resehations so the House. He regretted much that pphlis business and.hiotsteay ireocreSom pre. mimed him frdm attending the Committee. For the same reasons he wee unable to pay sufficing attention to the Bill when before the House. The Bill indeed was hot naked in theway its linpofraike required. Fur his owe part he lett it entirely to those whom he thought more likely to be ber.eacquainted with the matter, and more cognisant of what hail been the general practice under the then existing laws. The Bill founded on the Resolutions of the Commitee went not only to repeal all former positive enactments, but provided Mat no conviction should take place melee the corn. mon law. The Honourable Member for Aberdeen, in his speech on the introduction of the Bill, declared not only what punishment the common law inflicted for that offence which the Combination Laws were intended to meet, tut quoted a high authority certainly, that of the Hor.ourable Member for Peterborough (AIL Scarlett), that the common law In itself was sufficient to put down every eet of combination. He (Mr. Huskisson) did not then know that the common law was so efficient's ; and he looked on some statutable enactment as requisite for the purpose. Mere new Bill then intro- duced, which repealed over thirty or forty Acts, hesidea the com mon law, was brought in late an the Session, was read a second time on the Ist of June, and on Saturday the Sth it was read a third dime and passed. Thus there intervened but four days between the second reading anti the passing of so important a measure. No blame could be attached to the Honourable Member, when he' found no opposition to his Bill, for hurrying it a fast as pos sible through its several stages. He would now advert to the outrageous proceedings of the workmen, and particularly to those that occurred within a late period. So far had the system gone that the attention of the Home Secretary bad been repeatedly called to the scenes of violence and outrage, so violent and outrageous as to threaten the subversion of all law and security of life and person. lie (31r. fluskitson) had access to many papers connected with the subject, and he was bound to declare that from them it appeared that the acts of violence were every day becoming more frequent, and showed a tendency on the part of the workmen to persevere in their uajustitiable conduct, and to take under their formidable control the property of their masters. (Cries of " Hear, hear.") Their conduct went to a formidable length ; it was likely soon to produce much mis. chief. and much gross outrage—it was likely so far to endanger the public peace of the country as semi to make it a sub ject more fit for the interference of the Secretary of the Home Department than of the President of the Board of Trade. Indeed the question would soon be of such magnitude as to make it necessary to adopt some measure to protect the property of the King's subjects, to prevent the formation of conspiracies, which weaken the security of property; and t h reaten the loss o f e urnal i life. On looking, however. nernaly into the subject, he thought. it rather a commercial question. including in it the eights of inter ference in the property of those who employed labourers. He felt too, that if he did not now interfere the evil yak' grow to a mag nitude requiring a far different interference. If the influence which these persons wielded went on inereasing, thellomsSecretary should of necessity use those powers pplaced in his hands as guerdiati of 411* pobliepeammer noely to mie Ow Mesa to elitlik" tits dangerous growth of t hat most dengennis system of conspiracy, amid remove the restriction on property. (liar, hear.) Let Min not, in the remarks he had made, be suspected of entertaining opinions hostile to the freedom of trade. He always maintained the eight every tradeeman had of disposing of his labour and skill. lie always thought he was entitled to carry them wherever he pleased. He-ever maintained that the lab am and skill of the poor man were his undoubted mete. (Hear.) They were his corn. modity ; he was entitled to caner them to the best niruket. where there was the greatest competition. (Hear, hear.) He could not, however, forget that these who employed the labourer were worthy of some consmduaeion. They too were entitles to the advantage, of competition.. Theirs was the capital employed—theirs was the property—theirs the machinery—theirs the enterprise; and that machinery—that property--that capital. he considered equally entitled to the protection of the law as the hbour of the poor man. If the House could not restrain the labourer, they still ineeit to take the best mane of preventing him fronts becoming the victim of the conspiracy that is now going forward. The Sight lion. (lent. said he would pot enter into particulars: maim individuals had been murdered by the conspirators ; many live* hid been lost, of which the public had no knowledge ; they had a Means ana -1 ceetairring it from the secrecy of the eysteni, and the peculiar manner of their death. He could, however, show the House what ' the views and pretensions of these 'showers were, as to the right of interference with the property of their employees; mid he would show the mimes of their association from the articles of the Union of Trades st Dumbeirton, Lanark, and Ayrshire; from them the House would see what was die system of which he complained—a system, indeed, so perfect in all its parts, as to rival the constitutions of the new Governments that were springing up in the different parts of the world ; they, too, as well as the new States, had their Ilea.- surert—their Praidente—their Seeretariet, and other officers. (A laugh.) From the 9th article of the .!yrehire Co-operative Society, it appeared that at a geatral.nleiting of the Union, all the den. gates from the trades he present. It was worthy of remark that this Union did not consist of delegates from the same trail.: nloae ; the fact was, the different trades all sent delegates, who formed a etfroamyfwtshiedi'ipirolyeatreesehe purstziditieistjuipsieertexedeeptitsioownnordellhe; paid from the general fund. It g s t or racia t es cif tei f i c r il p L i r d a d l i,,ecT,ini congress TiplasiettrellthwhanonitcltheeofyhwthecauSnottioetydi,cow:et:in:con , was provided, too, that the trusurer anti president be elected every th,,. c s o ix mo n 7ittee ths' all reguhitions ; Ist, that all tradesmen point out to t h e g eneral g di that they gavc the master warning of the danger he incurs - ; and thirdly, that ,they adopt every means which rittieneest: ; gems of putting him out of the trade. (Hear, I n ca- ) It 2 - - not that they pursued that course painted w a s net b y jusuee • Bfermratimelle Mimed to the property of the. employer ; the; cared not how far tßefdnjtircel hint ; and it struck him (Mr. Hum kisson) that the meaning of " what prudence nay suggest," was, a that Mettlence was to guide them in keeping out of the ren•MtiOn Of the law, wid:ont any regard to the justifiableness of their proceed. hags. Could any man soy that timm persons were eming lawndly wtto thus kept any portion of his Majesty's subjects in terra of their live, and property ? (11eat.) To pro need with their regnlai ions; the 13th showed moat fully the influence exercised by the, Cont.' mitten over the tradesmen. It provided that delegates fmni the so. meal trades should attend the general meeting, and the sewed part e tt , A eMiele declared that " the power of levying money was vested exemslvely in due Cier.er.: ( 7 c, rnt::::e, and that. all lams =Me.! by the delegates be binding on those whom they represented." ( Hest, hear.) - What a formidable authority this law placed in the hoods of the Committee ! It was nut that they should receive voluntary contribution. but be empowered to enforce the payment of ma ' e y ; to h levy," contribution., that was the word used. (Hear. hear.) Indeed be had heard it said that one of the regulations of the colliers was that no stock of coals be allowed to remain in the hands of their employee; lest he, by having a supply by him, should become in dependent cf them, and look to another quarter for men. (Hear, hea-.) In other articles regulations were contained with nseect, to strangers coming to work at a colliery : no man was allowed to enter into any employment unless he be a member of the Union ; anti before lie as , allowed to work he was amerced in the sum of live pounds, which was paid over to the general fund. They regulated the wages which every man was to receive, acd were so minute as to determine that the tend of a collier when ten years of see was to be nod as the one-fourth of a man (A laugh), and to be paid lenpence a day, and thimon pain of certain penalties; the master too was net at liberty to employ soy man tartlets he had keen previously adopted by the Committee. He (Me Hcak:mon) asked the House if such a system ought to be allowed to continue, particularly in that artificial state of society which now existed ? Was it to be tolerated that these men should first by their own con. duct deprive themselves of employment, and then threw themselves on the Poor Laws few supple. 1 Was it to be permitted that they, when distressed by their contributions to chat common fund. should become a burden to that property already taxed by them ? He could of course have no right to question the disposal of their earnings, but tie could not help feeling that if they lodged their fire pounds in a Savings Bank It would prove more beneficial to them titan bestowing it out treasurers, presidents, or secretaries. {Cho can these treamters and presidents be, but men ambitious of power and influence? Was it not then probable that in the struggle for pre.eminence the most persevering were the most likely to succeed ? Could any moo then contemplate such power in such heads, and not tremble for the consequences ? (Hear, hear.) Anther law of the Society was, that in the event of a disetimion arising on any subiect, the majority of those present were to bind the sitinority. There was nothing very extraordinery in this ; it waa, he - believed, the mile of every debuting society that Moe ex isted. (A laugh.) So far it was quite fair; but was it coo:fluent with the freedom of labour? (Cnes, of " Hair, hear.") Was it to be borne that those who employ are to be bound by their lateen.. en ? Another article, the 27th. declared that no man is at liberty to employ whom he pleases, unlearn he have the permirden of the Union. If such principles as these emend generally through all the trades—through the ship-carpenters, colliers, and miter classes of workman--to what a frightful ahem of power mum theseFlocieties be raised 1 How hurtful, how pernicious must be their influence that that amborit) does exist in a very im portant branch of commerce, he meant the coasting trade, appeared from the forenati n of a society among them, celled the " Nautical Union ; 0 and from some of its lava, which though drawn up umler the form of a conversation, were not less binding on them than if they were in the shape of positive ceminands. One article of that Soeiety„ aid indeed it seemed to persuade all the confederacies that those individuals set over them should be selected by themselves ; en far' was that acted on, that he knew a colliery in which a great deal of discontent and disunion prevailed between the labourers and employer, not on account of their wages or frees any ill treatment received by them, but simply because they were not allowed to appetite the overlook= of their labour. (Hear, hear.) It was also a law with the members of the Coasting Union not to go tome unless the appointment of their own officers was permitted to them ; they claimed to nominate their captains and mates. Such was the law framed by their Committee, and promulgated in the guise of a dialogue between Tom and Harry ! Arrsgreement was aho entered into by them not to do certain things, howsoever necessary they may he for the preservation of the ship. (Hear. hear.) An instance lately eccurrel in which the sailers adhered to the' law. A vessel happened to be cast ashore. in order to get her off, it became necessary to shift her ballast : one ~f the rules of the Society declar ing such work unfit for seamen, they absolutely refused to assist, to the imminent risk of the ship and cargo (hese, hear); and it was only by the fortunate aid of some smacks the Ceptain was enabled to preserve one or the oilier ; yet the seamen. the moment the ballast was shifted, cheerfully perforated every other work. What was the consequence ? Why these attack. scueht foe corn. pensstion for their labour 110141 (rouble, and actually obtained 2004 salrage from the owners, for reihedying a udafot tune solely owing to the intubeediaanen and bad spirit of the crew. It follows, eonemmently, that, those who go to sea eittrested with the manage ment of yalushle cargoes, cannot, if they are a: the mercy of such - Insubordination and combination of the crews, preserve that pro perty for their employers, or feel their own lives sere; and that if ' this Bill ie sufhered umeontipue in its preterit teamratinee ruernieflota toast relinquish all idea of en.barking their capitals at sea, and thereby put an end to all commercial enterprise. He was not indeed surpris.W, from the wording of an Act so artifkinl in its phrases and so liable to misconstruction, that the class of persons for whom it was designed, and who were not the best calculated from their habits and education to construe an Act of Parliament correctly_ he did not, he repeated, at all wonder that they should have an impression that by this Act all restraint was taken away from their most violent and outrageous conduct. All the Arts upon the sub bet of combination had been repealed, end no preeecding could ' taken at common law against those offerces, which had been formerly punishable under its operation. Ile would call the atten tion of the House to the 2.1 Section of the Act as it now stood, that they might see how easily persons not able to eoestrue Acts of Parliament may he min-led by the pi...eel:ikons of the present Com. broaden law. The motion runs dins-a" That no workmen eon. suiting together for future proceedings, or ambit-leg to regulate the mode of carrying on or managing any trade or manufacture, shall be liable to indictment or information for such proceedings either under the Common Law or the Statute Low." {{could not some persons suppose that there was actually something commend. able in the combining to regulate the proceeding:a of their masters and trades in the weeding of such • cisme as that 1 Was it not to be suPposed they might do it with impunity ? What was there in it, at all events, which could teach those for whom it was intended that by combiniug to disturb or control the proceedings of their employers, they either violated the spirit or thwerted the Intent of the Act of Parliament? And was it not time that the House should, after the scenes which had lately taken place, adopt some measures to set them right upon so serious a subject. Again, by • the 6th sectimi of the present Act, offences of the moat agmanted nature were not visited by punishment, or at all emus by a punish. matt very imieeguate to the natuteof the crime. By that section it was provided, that if any person should by vioience destroy any machinory, tools, goods, or merchandise, &c. on being convicted before two .Magistrates (hear, hear), by the oaths of two witnesses (bear, hear, hear), he elimild be sentenced to two months imprison. meat. (Bear, bear.) All these offences were punishable before; the Act therefore enacted nothing new—it proposed nothing pew— it was a work of supererogation to say Met these violeoces were an offence to be punished ? But how did it award thumunieliment ? Why, not by establishing a degree of penalty, i riming with the nature of the crime. but by declaring that all these ofr e n e e e _ wene of then ielonies, all of. them midemeancm--should be only punishable by two months' imprisonment, on the proof of two witnesses (hear, hear). a thing never required but in eases of high I treason, and then only provided as an emceed goard to the life o f mit the ten (Hear, hear.) Taking this law into einsidenrion with time 2d section, which declares that it is no crime to concert or plot the destruction of property or violence to the life of those • opposed to combinations, he conceived that there was no remedy for an, sail, whieh ill the inemsfacettring and trading districts was calculated to destroy the property of masters and em- ploytre ; and he thought it iiupoesible that even these who I were interested. in combinations could, if they permitted them. selves the slightest refection, hope for the eontieusetee of a system which enabled them with impunity to exercise such a tyranny over 1 their masters. (Hear.) If those workmen 'veld but allow them selves to coretder that through the effect of such measures ail em. ployment must ultimately cease altogether, •and capital be either driven to other pasts of this mant, or, what was worse, to other couunies, lie was sure they wou ld not desire the continuance of such an unwarrantable power. (Hear, hear.) He could only say to those mind:men who might be threatened by Etch proceedings. that he would advise them not to yield timely to the assumption of such a power. He would implore them to act with firmness and vigour whenever they might be threatened r, be was Pure the ma. gistracy of the country would give them efficient support ; and if the power of the magistracy proved ineffectual, he thought he could pledge himself that his Right lion. Friend the Secretary of State esould not be backward to give them the full weight of his consti. tutional authority (Hear, bear), and protect them from the coax. quenelle of a system so inimical to the peace, and so prejudicial to the prosperity of the country: (Hear, hear.) To what extent it ' would be expedient to go in the intended alteration, he was not then prepared to determine. He could rot say whether he would .propene to alter or repeal altogether the existing law ; bat this he I might say, that he should be sorry to see the tomer laws rewired. (Hear.) Whatever might be ultimately done, he was convinced that some more efficient measure [satin be prodneed from the exa mination of a,Committee, and ho trusted by their labours to pre. vent the present principle from extemi;ng itself, and at the hunt timeeo give equal and impartial prat, etion to labours and memer. (him, hear.) He confessed that he ifild at One time an expects. non that the manufamwring population would have put a just in. terpreution upon the intention of the Legislature; he had hoped that their own good sense would have taught them to avoid any in terruptions to else public tranquillity; but them helms had been painfully diaappointed, and he felt it absolutely necessary to tali for the interference of the House. by moving the appointment of a Commtittre. lie was aware that he exposed himmilf by tide pro. gulai..rs. Ile Loped that the Session would not pass without a change in the Corn Laws. CATHOLIC CLAIM B.—PETITIONS. Mr. DICKENSON presented a Petition from the Archdea conry of Wells, against any further concesaion to Roman Catho lics. After a few observationa from Sir THOMAS ',Ern BRIDGE, tie Petkion was ordered to lie on the table. Dlr. lICKENSON mat rose, to prcsent a Petition from the Archdeaeonty of Taunton, complaining of the efforts made by Roman Catholics to can grselytes from the Established Church. ll T ll. er el o l&gl n Sbl l l ta ttlso e. presented a Petition from Shepton D allet against the Land Tax, and sk,micst certain Assessed Taxes, tanning personal property. - AL rITZGERA LD presented a Petition from the County nu. - ""*".r .of the Irish Provincial Banking 05mpany. of Kerry in taw. ... - -wattai 3 Petition from the Town of Mr. PBENDEROAn A 1... 1 . Galway to the same affect. .... 1 Mr. ABERCROMBIE presented a Petition from the Royal Colivge of Surgeons, Edinburgh, relative to the better Rripiladon of Apothecaries. BUR !II ESE DAR. THE BRITISH PRESS. Coventry. On those grounds ha, would (ippon the introduction of the Bill. GURNHY said, lie thought the subsjegt of such magnitude that it ought to be taken up by tire Govermihnt, and sonic legis_ dative enactment Introduced on the subject, In order to Show what tee lawful and what not. Ile thought ft paniesslerly belonged to I the President of the Board of Trade to interfere on this occasion, sod make it no longer a matter of doubt how tar the common low operated, and how the provisioni of the Bubble'Act bore on the question. It was moat desirable to have the common law explained, as it was fired by a series of decisions how t! ie H u bbl e A ct stoo d with reference to its,Foritire einctinente. He should net troubli the /louse further; he rose simply to express his opinion that the Right Hen. Gentleman opposite (Mr. or rather the Government, should- intseddreta theft ose z Code of lie o to regu.. late the tenni./ bf Joist Stdck Companies, bud otherwise set the question at rest. .* Hr. P. MOORE, in reply, staid he should be extremely glad if the Pestilent of the Board of Trade took the subject into his own Fla "gold rrouslie tarn his sOppert whenever any measure was brought forwa,,t by him. At pies,. Lba Joust Steck Comps mks were completely at sit, without rudder or compere, Milt will), two hundred and 'fifty tbousarsd pounds of capital. Many of these had not the grounds for being called bubblost. He had the honour to be connected with some Companies, and he was ready to declare on his word of honour, that every one of thefts In good faiths in solidity, in honour and conscience, were in no respect inferior to the Ban k of England itself. (A livegh, and hear.) Ile wanted a low to regulate them which could be understood. The Bubble Act did not apply to them, and was calculated only to depreciate the property of those connected with them. In order in some measure to disabuste the public mind, he brought forward the pre sent nreasure.with a view to excite fair discussion on it; he thought it right that before the Recess the question should be agitated. Great good would result from it; it would tend materially to set the public mind at rest, and go a great way towards conciliation. He hoped the House would corms to some understanding on the subject, connected with which there was so much capital afloat. From what he had heard in the course of the debate he was in duced to alter his motion. Instead of asking for lease to bring in a Bill to repeal the Bobble Act, he would move for leave to alter and amend certain clauses in it. Indeed it was the opinion of high legal authority that the whole of that Act was obsolete. Another high authority thought the provisions of it such as cot to be carried into execution. (Neer.) he hoped the seise of the House would settle the matter with tespeet to Congeries whicb were no mon babbles than the Bank of England.. That too' had its shares, which were regularly brought into market. The Honourable liketlernao then withdrew his former motion, and moved for leave bring in a Bill to amend certain clauses in the 6th George I. esseroonly called the Bubble Act. Air. Secretary PEEL and Mr. HUSKISSON suggested to the Honourable Member the propriety of withdrawing the motion al together. Mr. 11L'IllE asked the Right Honourable Gentlemen whether they wished the law should continue as it was ? It was idle le wait for the Lord Chancellor to bring in his Bill. That Noble sled Learned would come to no conclusion Oe the subject hastily ; be would be doubting and delaying, doubting and delaying, aye, until the next Session. (A laugh.) God only knew when he would do any thing about the matter. (A laugh.) 111 r. lIUSKISSON thought discussion simply on notice of motion for leave to bring in a Bill not fair. It was still lets fair that the Honourable Gentleman should change his motion without giving norize of his intention ; without knowing too which cf the clauses he intended torepeal, and without the least consideration on the subject. (Hear.) He trusted the Honourable :Wernher would not press the matter then, hot wait until after the Recess. Mr. P. MOORE then withdrew his motion ; at the same time giving notice of his intention to bring die subject for ward Mune dlately after the holidays. _ .a. HOLYHEAD ROAD. Sir H. PAR:\ EL moved for leave to bring to a Bill for the further improvement of the Holyhead road. After a few words from 51r. C. PELHAM leave was granted. ADJOURNMENT OF THE 1101.T.5E. A V rending to mach misreptesentation. and very possibly to the dis pleasure of thane whose interests lie %slid especially bound to pro. toot—he meant those he had the honour to represent in that Hoare the Hon. Gentleman alluded to Liverpool) ; but he had felt it to be his duty to persevere even under the danger of forfeiting their good opinion i and he was sure, when they calmly considered the Modem" of the menthe* against which his oppointion wee directed. that they would be thankful for hie having milled the attention of I :Ltt House to the subject. (Hear, hear.) The Right Hon, Gm.- tleman then moved that a Select Committee be appointed to ietjutie into the conduct of workmen in various parts of the Unite.l king dom, and to take into their consideration the propriety of the repent of the bili of Geo. IV. chap. 95. Mr. HUME. (ruin the attention he had paid to this subject, thought himself entitled to offer a few observations. No person had watched whit more care than he had the proceedings antler the late Act, and he was not unaware of those instances of viokace and interrupttoo to the public tranquillity upon which the }tight lion. Gentleman (Mfr. llttekissrm) founded his objections. lie should he happy to go into a Committee because he was CISIViRC*; it would be proved that many had availed themselves of the benefit of the measure of last Seesion,.without abusing their freedom, and that it had proved of great advahtage to labourer and employer. He ai - cl not mean, however, to deny thanthcre had been exceptions. than thine lied been disturbances and viola:cc, but they had not, in Ida i o i lion, Vented the gener; 1 prhiciple of the Wit. No ore who " c:nsidered for a moment the dependent state in which I/theatres end workmen had been kept br the late law, could be sormieed if them was a slight reaction. ( her.) There was, however, an. othee reason which bad not been seeriently intended to by the Right Hon. Gentleman. The call for labour 1 . .. d incretuted in an unprecedented degree since the pissing of the Act. It was tint which had enabled the workman to presume, and to orbited& his supposed rights in oppotitlon to 11111 employer; it WAS than scarcity of labourers moil the increased demand which Lad en. cuureged than to those encases which had been the etilneet of complaint. He owed it to himself and the Committee to ,taut what bad passed on this Bill, and be intuited he should prove that the Right Honourable Gentleman had been mistaken. lie had stated distirtaly in that Comm itteethat there were two morns of proceeding, one under the Statute Law, and the other under the (:,moon Law ; bat that the Common Law WAS the MOM oppres sive of the moo, because by it any •two or three 'notions (mind together considering about wages wore liable to a v i tup ialty of a !ate': imprisonment. 407 measure to remedy the e • (mile was of course entirely (attic, unless that motility removed. Nothing, hetwesu, bed bane s done in the Committer witheut tbd most mature c alliteration ; they sat fotty-seven days ; what was proved before then' in evidence, was, on his motion, printed in the form of Resolutions. These Resolutions bad Leen In the fiance of the Committee for fourteen days, and he could state without fear of contradiction. that there bed not been a dissentient route;- that they had come to 'unanimous opinion upon every poise; • ceptieg only the question of machinery. Upon that question ten gil px hod been a delay, but en hie advice the Committee had nally placed it in the fornt of a Resolution, which stated, that hi prevent' the contention, violence, and murder which had ensued, the Statute Lair, and also the Common Law„ be repealed. These facts he was quite satisfied to rest upon the examination of the printed Resolutions. With regard to the operation of the Bill, he called upon the Right Honourable Ovulation to acknowidger what he had certainly nut stated, that there had been meetirm for pesemble settlements of differences between masters and norkmee, as well as violent attempts at compulsion. So far the Act had been of service; it gave the workmen es well as the masters the {newer to consult for their interest, and he begged it to be borne in mind, that although there had been many con. vicions under the Combination Laws for conspiracies among the workmen, and none among the employere, still it was nut to be thence inferred that the masters did not conspire. The diffi culty of detection and proof bad coated the difference, and It was therefore worth their consideratim whether multiplied eroeseedings under the Combination Law, inflicting months of imprimmnent, and meeting violence and hatred. was to be preferred to a peaceable and amicable compromise. The itight lion. Gentleman could not have read the Act attentively, or he would net have said it wet cu dowdy worded ,• the language made use of being that of the nth said ellth of the late reign, anti particularly »elected to prevent mis construction. The 6th clause, amend of taking sway the power of punishing acts of violence, or lessening the efficacy of existing laws, actually gave an accumulative power. (Rear, hear.) Under other moms there was a regular process of law, which oneupied much: time; but this gave a power of punishing immediately upon nom. vienion before the nearest Magistrate; and indeed both the pus nishment and the meats had been suggested by the Honour: able lllember for Yorkshire ( Mr. Stuart Wortley), who bad intimated that the breaking of machinery prevailed to a con siderable extent in the district from which he came, and that it would be desirable to adopt some more speedy remedy than the long process which the law then regnireti. But did Mot take away from the power of any existing Acts ? No such thing; the 6th section especially provides that this Act do not affect any existing law ; and only enacts that persons convicted under it be net punishable again. It hail therefore only given a choice of punishing under a summary manner, or by the more tedious pro m., of the old law. (11ea,.) This must be, he contended, of W heat ; and they therefore came to the plain question, that if masters would not exercise the remedy. they had no right to corm% plain. His opinion was, that masters, should he at liberty to employ whom they pleased—the men to refute ; but that whenev er me n rendered themselves liable to the operations of the sccondclause it • , was impossible for them to escape. The failure, therefore, of. the Art, if failure there was, proceeded solely from the parties not . . eying its provisions with firmness into effect. The Ht. Lion. neat. lied mentioned that there were alum murders since ttegparming of the Act. If there were he had not heard of more than lite or viz, and those moody in Dublin, where there had been murders fee. quently before the Act, and which were solely to be attributed to the defective state of the police. It should be recollected, that there was an union of fifty trades in Dublin, and that it had been the custom for the camomile when they thought themselves aggrieved. to get the cunt...re to Inflict punishment. and the cur. tiers in their turn, when " colts," as they cnlled the new mm, were introduced, to seek the aid of the hatters,or some other trade; but he was able to state, upon the authority of a letter be had re ceived from the Secretary of the Union in Dublin, that thole prac tices were much diminished, end that the uncles implored the House not to be deprived of their freedom from the crimes of others. It would be mono. therefore, to punish the many for the • faults of a few. It was sot always the men either who were guilty of outrages; the masters were frequently as bad. In Glasgow the workmen of a Mr. Dunlop turned oat. What did he do, did the House suppose? Why, he summoned all the masters in Glas gow to come forward and make a stand against this attempt. The masters obeyed the sumnenna, and came to an unanimous Imola. time, that if all Dunlop's workmen did not return immediately • to their duty they would discharge next day the ten thou. sand wtwkmeti engaged in their own manufactures. In vain did the workmen protest against this art of injustice, and item plies the masters not to punish them for the fault of ethane their complaints were disreended, and upwards of twelve Omen sand workmen turned into the streets of Glasgow without say hope of meeting work in any other place. Would the House consider the conduct of the seamen tit to be planed in compariton with this ? (Cries of " Hear, hear.") What had been the re. suit of this contest? Why, the masters did get the better of the workmen. The workmen were compelled, after holding out for five weeks, to return to their duty, and the masters to complete their triumph, actually charged interest upon their wages at the rate of 10 per cent. as a compensation, they said, for the loss they had in. • surred by the conduct of the workmen. The tame had happened at .. Manchester and various other places. The Right Hon. Gentlemen . had said sailors would not sail with those who did not belong to the Union. It was not always I.a in the Union be knew a Mr. King, a tin menufacturer, who had turned eff one of his workmen . , for g a to r ! (ook, and by that Mann hist amentomere others, who ing to their amides, were bnund to fallow their comps. nice. Mr. King be knew mainutined Ms resolution, and absplutely adVertised foe workmen, stipulating that he would not receive one of any society lehatevee The amnequer.ce was, that the last time he (Yr, Hunte) beard of him, he had obtained sixty workmeo un connected with any of the Unions he disliked. At Menehestat the practice of the masters was to keep a list which wee invited) , transmitted from one house to another, in maim what the following worts :—" Sir, we beg leave to transmit you the names of Mote who have turned out in our service, seed remain, yours." None could obtain employment who were mentioned in these lists ; and if this was not a combination. of the masters against the men he knew rot what was. He water convinced there was not one who would not concur with the Right Hon. Gentleman that somethirg was proper to by done. llc only eldrasead.of-liiovelest no ...,—..".: woad be steered to be adopted that should indiseriminetely involve the innocent with the guilty. The Right Hon. Gentleman had brought the case of the colliers before the House, but be (Mr. Mime) would just mention one tact on that subject : there motet' a law expremly referring to the COIIeSiCS of Smtlaut. That law had be found so completely inefficient that it was tried whether it might not he done matelot, and the result was exactly at wee expected. Whet ho required (vas, that the men should be at liberty, to weak upon their own. interests ; but if they were net reasonable in the estimate of theie wages, or should attempt to intimidate or dictate . to their toasters, i then the masters, should be allowed to lake that lion stand against them which the case justified. He, Mr one, ehottld hare no 'Mier ' tion to a Conurduee of Inquiry, it the Right Hon. Gentleman should be able to devise the means of more effectually establishing a right understanding between the masters anti men; for no one deprecated more than he did the acts of violct,ce and truintidatica which bad taken place. Mr. PEEL said. he was not aware till to-night that the numLer of Gentlemen who set on the tommittee to frame the Bill had &neonatal to fifty, or that their deliberetions had extended to so long it period at had been stated. lie must say, that these facts had entirely convinced bins that a mutant:de of counsellors was 'rather an cell than a good. He thought the precipitate repeal of thirty-six Statutes, which constituted a body of law regulating the respective rights of master and 'creme without substituting any new measure in their stead, was, to say the least, a hazardous tut dertaking. In his judninent, this measure, ought to have been proceeded in with considerable caution. Ile was not intending to vindicate the old Law, among which there were undottbhdly may things very justly objectionable ; but he did think that before it WAS attempted to repeal them souse better mode of :mold:Mg the rtlations betweeo the empinyer said the journey Oman ought to hat c been brought he. He was convinced that no subjort could be . more important, nor any more worthy the serious romideration of . this House, than the queerion now before it ; invoking as it did the , n interests of so lime a portion of the f llibl;C; and Le nog sure :hu m • • it would meet with the most calm deliberation, as there could net , ~ possibly be any political feeling mixed up with it. But if it should. t be refused to appoint a Cosninittee, then it would be impossible Ili my that the ?freer' of the Act had been attended rrat: t h ou, balm. •• • - I •