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• • haw whetter flat ogee would lie left vaeaol, will a view Ism,. lbw CHANCRLLOR of the EXCHEQUER said be did Doi WWI is 114 Ow number. Me. MAKING eitesplasned of reaming the public motor, iu .hr sitasustr it had berm done to an individual, as in this raw at Mr 14•AtIan. Is was trite aaeonfarmable to lb. nasal /watt ten. Mr. MOM K sleaied, ar had been stated, that that sass was Mid was est the civil oostiaresseses:_ll,o4. .9414 tf liar Ow 'erre§ %Cameo) is Howe would sever . VIA* Oftfii of. Mr. Aeirirpecri; th e MI • id iti,oest. was grassed for public buildipcs. smog! elvellehat• the etpial‘eji of bit Mitiesty!o .41"Itarittpua nett ,t4.,nt • I _l .. .- smog of 175.000 L for couspoutatiowto dos townsro of Portuguese yes -6.4e. fee soistorro out captures ardor •the Treaty fur the abolition of ttie Slave Troth'. • fist '' 13EaNct, ej,p9eefl . the r iint. Mr. WAOpi paid, tbit a great abaai l at jib anima "thus which lad [ably become puidio, proved; that notwithotaadnit all Jae tear,* *hi c k had arasn _ . made, owl thieltditense expense incurred, we were • reirisgrstling Tether than ailvinseing in the abolition of the *are Trade. • It recited disgust to perceive , Aso the infeinnss traffic was will. carried no with aciiiiiy, in spite of all the *Decrees and Ordelo Which had been issued, iss defiance of Treaties eSt trrr•at into, and atrinsgements of every kind . *bilk had been made. . It arcs a subject which required' to he thoroughly discussed, and he hoped the Cod. utitsee would not agree to this vote until it had the; fattest information before it with respect to the ap plication of former grows, and the result of ate:, communicarions between the Governinent of this cOnntry and other Powers connected with. the sub. •ject. Mr. ARBUTHNOT Said the Hon. Member woad 'have an opportunity of procuring suckeitirlasiatious as hi wishes! for on the ()ringing Op of the Report,. ,when the Noble Lord to dude department the coniinuoicritons in question more pritieulsrly be longed would be present. The Resolution was then agreed to. The next RtiOillPoll was fur a grunt of 18,7001., •-- awl -- • • for the sdaries 6m : dental expenses of the Continis.ina, appointee to co-operate wish slue Cionntometiers fur Spam. Portugal, and the . Niestwists/Is, in deciding and adjudicating the beiziores of slaves in Africa and the West • Mr. BERRA,. said lie would take utmei himself to .BEO4 that the Slave Trade. at this moment existed; to as great an extent, and accompanied with-a, rooter degree of cruelty and horror, than during the war. rfotwithttandiog the number of Briti,h . ctisi•ers stelioned in the Didion Archipelago for the • purpose of auppreming this truffle, not a single case. aupeared to have been brought before the Coat ' morsieva at the Hertionali. They were now called ou to rote 18,7001. towards the expense of putting down thc trail', having already given to Spain upwards of 400,000/. as a compensation for giving it up. and large sums oho to Porieril on the same ci.beideretion. But he complained that those Powers did not *wind irliiteriiingt, with file right hand of f.iindship. • Theyencioutleged, or at least tolerated, this, introduction of skates iu large numbers into their own tioascssioos, and ales into the French and Dutch coloirei. It Went , therefore a question ought to Is,hrther ilerse Co 0 0 1 . 1) !Okoirlis, ; w e r! - lumeo, off. i•Fr a . some attempt • rat be,aesde tcownrcis a eontii _ . . better arreegernesit, as the basis no which they were to found their proceedings. Mach correspondence hod been' had on the subject, _ . . ' the triode win in &lily which sufftei;sitly sh,mrd that ~ active operatom. Unless ihrreFosesouw fruit could be shewu to base been.derived from the labours of :•••• , ttle Comulissionens, .be could not vote for the sum pow proposed. IVAttas -- - io opinion with Mr. WA. concurred entirely de Von. Mau bet Oka spoke btu, as to the utter •sireelessiwati of the Commission at the Havannah.— He referred also to the last annual Report of Sir G. Collier, in which an instance was related of gross partiality on the part of the Dutch Commis•artf JUdge at 'Sierra Leone. towards a man named . Viapies, who afterwards plotted the murder of an . eater end boat's crew of the Thole. at Curtis: ••• Town, in. the Rio Pongee. Sir Geo. Collier states hiM to have found protection in " the friendiAlip of Putck Comathsary judge. and the imbecility at Ate English." If the appointment of Coto.. • inissioner* meant any thing, they ought to be et.: Peril , . Men. He thought the recommendation of -;ight to br attended • with' " the Mei to u, to , respect to the. Waked, of t h e Rio Pougoe, which that galleot effacer stated world of all others tend moat effectu ally ,to destroy the Slave Trade in that river, and not 'in any degree interfere with the natural trade of . - citjlized natione." Si► G. Coczeintw rose merely to defend the Olken of the Navy from any inference of neglect, iriffietryou, or want of zeal on their part for the -oppression of this . : traffic, which suppresaion of inhuman . aright be inferred from the observations which had been mode with respect to the absence of any cases for tadiildication before the Cotumissionem at toe Ha vlupsh'.' The ihiAculty "of making iuy captiires• was inUch greater ou tl COOSI of SUrBIOST. than on the coast of Africa. When a vessel entered a neu tral port she wet out.of the power of our cruisers. A-slave trader, therefore, falling iu with a cruiser Gad OBir to hoist an American or a French flag.. tun a ostioni refused tp consider the right of! 'TWA until g-0. 13 .04!' Ott Kim of ■ neutral fort, and she was safe. This was often found au yeadestal;device fir escaping search. 1V here naval Akers,. however, had outh information as gave OHM yglOinf . i 10 !Wiese that a vessel we' using false cOliaam to, evict; the illicit traffic, they often at their • wara.rialt made seizures, which involved them some in ferns** incoovenience from which much sanctioned by their governments. He trust- 1 ed. however, that no efforts wonid be emoting, and no exerifoint spared by - The GenrefhlittOt of this .cosintry 6o induce °thee Powers to join Moie cor dially in the endeavour to suppresi it. Mr. Wines said, the disposition of the foreign Commissioners to strain every point in favoir of ' the Slave Trailer war strongly manifested in the s a l v age ewe. where the vessel being chased by the Myra dos. and nearly overtaken, the Master hovered his boats, into which he pot all the slaves that were in the vessel. Bat although ibis- hid Officers been done in the sight of the , ■nd crew of Myrmidon, the • foreign Commissioners gave their opinion that the seizure of the vessel was not legal. the slaves not having been found on board her, but in the boats. The English Com missioner, however, being opposed to that in terir►etation of the law, an arbitrator we. ap pointed by lot, who. decreed the rest's/anion of the vessel. The Government bf the Nether laud►, upon a statement of she ease, condemned the decision. The Noble Marquis who was absent, had, he believed, had some communication on the ' subject with the Court at Rio Janeiro, and he (Mr. W.) should like to be infortned what answer ' had been returned. Mr. ARBUTHNOT agreed that this was a subje, t which could not bebop fully discussed. Itrferri. g to the observations which had been made respecting • the exertions of the officers of the navy, for the sup pression of the trade, although it ■ppeared that nu stimulus was necessary, but that they had hitherto performed their duty with zeal and alacrity, and there wes no doubt would continue so to do, yet hr felt that it was hard that they slicield be left in such e ' situation a. they stood in at present, tin bosomy being allowed them by law on slaves captured in foreign vessels. Ile would, therefore. tYke that opportunity of mentioning his intention in 6 fel days, for leave to brine tio r Bill to grant them the same bounty as at present allowed in the case of Kritiyh vessels. Witli respect to the ease mentioned by the lion. Member who had just vat down, be knew that his Noble Friend b s attention had been turned to it ; and that he had made some commuincation to the Government of Portugal on the oubject. He could not, however, at prevent state wind answer had been received. but hr would make a note of the etretionstance, and mention it to his Noble Friend, who, no doubt, would furnish the detired information. Mr. F. Burrow hoped that the bounties which it was the intention of the Hon. Gentleman to pro pove for the capture of slaves in foreign vessels, would not be confined to future captures, but would also be extended to those which bad already been made. 'Mr. ARBUTHNOT said he certainly shoed pro pose,a clause to that effect in his intended Bill. Mr. Huse thought these Commissioners were evidently tireless,. and that the • expense ought, be - \ try.- They had be V do no- therefore, to 1. oared to the country, hitherto avowedly done nothing ; it trerated 10 yet ' they . issil yet in a few years they might retire on I- ' having done nothing.—(Hear, hear.) — Unless F - lie would ungrateful France, ich ' been pr?ity geserall, .1I•MNN" _ t(rance—.. _ lay %. looking at the rittiation in wine , the had b t „..., placed, and the little desire evinced to make any return—unless she jnined cordially with Engtaad in • the endeavour to put an end to this odious traffic, nothing effectual could he done. It therefore he- -.mug ettecm.. bored the Commuter seriously to medial' whether this expense were not better spared, than continued to so little purpose. ' Sir G. COCKBURN agreed with the Hon. Member that the difficulties were such as to prevent much -benefit beiug derived from the Commissioners in -11Seisans or the Havatinsh, het on the coast of Africa they had proved very serviceable. The Resolutioa was then pia and agreed to. A sum of 8,0001. was then voted for defraxing the extraordinary expenses of prosecutions relating to the coinage. On the Resolution for the sum of 25.000 L for law charges being moved - N u Mr. 'ata wished to know what was the nature of the law charges here alluded to, as every depart ment under Government hod preferred a distinct item in its estimates for law expenses. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, that lust year the sum of 41,000/. had beets voted, 37,0001. had been expend. ed the year before in the prosecution of Mr. Hone and others for blasphemy and sedition. The num ber of State prosecutions during the last sear amounted to thirty-t , against Sir F. Burdett, Mr ,Pty-tin, . Hat titioi, and others, which hod involved very large • ex pewees. Mr. WARRE observed upon the practice pointed out in a Report of the Commissionees of !uguwn•, of giving briefs to the Attorney and Solicitor GenK ral, two senior Counsel, unit two junior Counsel, is every simple cause in the Exchequer. The CHANCELLOR of the ExcHEquta said, that the recommendation of the Commissioners was un der consideration, and would as far as possible oe attended to. It was, however, impossible that the Attorney and Solicitor-General should he oble to attend in ■ll cescs prosecuted tbr the Crown. Sir J. NEWPORT attributed the reductiou in the amount of the eltimate of these charges, to the calculation of the a•si.taace which would be do- Aired from the Coostitutioual Association, which he described as u ►ort of 01--• in cornmitsiou ~.acing the 'Office 40' Attnissey.Genrrul. He strongly reProbsted the enconrag,ement of that Society in meddling with State prosecutions, as a transfer 'from on avowed public offieer, whose leppousibilay .tnished. then was the time chosen by the timer Societe to. (ate op the office of Gusarril, sod isattitam pousects,so which hittierfo boon c•mitrWpy We teethe dalleetiou of officer. loop said, if the Attorriey ancl'Solicitar could not find time tolfttend on prosecu . became a question whether they ought to Jriefs and receive fret for eaurei in which they rendered no assistance. In mailbag over the stems, be had been struck with one--• retired al lowance to a Solicitor of the Treasury. He wished to know what that retired allowance was, sod whe thei it was not given to a person who had had an opportunity of making a large fortune in the pub service. .• 1 A ARBUTHNOT mid, the allowance alluded to .ototier Mr. Litchfield, a person who had been rlaket up to the bar, and had rendered consi services. He had been allowed to retire after having filled the office for upwards of twenty years. instead of massing slorione, he believed that Gentleman at present to have no other income than that of his retired allowance, which was two- thirds of his salary. Mr. HUMS was glad to hear that the pension was not given toe person who had made a large fortune. lie thought. however, that a pension of 1,500/. a year was a large allowance on retirement, to a per son who had for twenty years been receiving a salary of 2,0001. • y.ar. These pensions and retired al lowances, instead of bring mixed up with other Es timates, ought to be brought for Ward iu a distinct farm. Mr. A RBIJTH ROT thought Mr. Litchfield could not be considered as overpaid, when it was remembered that having been at the bar, he had entirely given up his profession, with all its opportunities of ruin lament rod its prospects of promotion, to under take the duly whicb he had for su many yea, eau , liaised to discharge. The resolution was agreed tn. The next item was the grant of 22.1;00/. for the eateries; and allowances to the officers of the Houses of Lords and Commons. Mr. Hums said, he hoped that next year they should have a full account of this sum. _ _ olive ■ , or tins suns. Mr. ARSVTHNOT Mid, if he had the honour to 'furnish these Estimates for the next year, he would produce every item in detad of this vote. The. vote was then agreed to. On the proposal of the grant of 100,0001. • bills drawn, or to be drawn, for the service of the Colony of New South IVales Sir J. NEWPORT observed upon the risk attend ihsg the practice of advancing to public officers the jspats voted for their depart mews without any conside. ;gallop of what sums might be remaining in their hands, aushich had, particularly in one instance, by the ~rilure of an individual, beeaattended with consider able loss to the country. Hewished therefore to know whether it had been ascertained what balances were rersitioing in the hands of the officer through whose hands this sir n) was to pass. He asked this irithout the smallest intention of throwing any im :potation on the individual, whom he understood to be a person of high clutracter, and m far as ,eould bejudged, one from whore no loss seas to be apprehended ; but; when the tare of public money was the question, it sees' to be considered' wholly apart froaa any individual merit: The CHANigt.l.olt of the Eaniltetililli,Bo4d. that immediately after the failure allude& to by the ...ight Hon. __ an irely view arrangement had been made by Mr. Pe►trvai in this respect; so 'list its point of Get the money remained in the - till called for' the --- • . Baronet end' Exchequer tilt caltc.. _. by agent as immediate occasion required, and no advances were made. Sir J. N ItiIPORT said, he had been induced to make the observation f;otn a knowledge float both in this country and in Ireland a notion had very generally filed, that an^• - havi uf prevat _ at a..y person mg a sum . the public money in his charge, whatever the atnounr, might put it to any use whatever for his own private profit, as long al he w a s p r epar e d t o t'ateet the regular demands of the pnbtic service to which he was liable. But it could not be true. -generally made known, that no such use of t 4.. public money could with propriety or legality made ; for any public officer of trust entering ion! extravagant speculations beyond his private meaty,' was trafficking with the public money at the public risk, and for his own individual profit. Mr. Hums said he would take that opportunity, of making some observations an the vote, No. IC which hail been omitted. When they were colt. the sidering civil contingencies last year, they were told they would not be called on to vote thetn this year. The effect of stating things in this manner was to keep the particulars from the view of dm 1 House. There was an item of 3.6831. to Sir David 'Hunter Blair for printing ; he wished to know whether that was an annual charge, or when it would be discontinued. There were also several other items which ought not to have been put into the estimates in this such as the way ; , as . ex penses of the Commissioners of Inquiry into the Courts of Justice. How far the I,ooot. for the re pair of roads was properly introduced here he could not now say, hut he thought particular estimates should be given of all these things. Mr. ARBUTHSOT said, before the new arrange ment of the Civil List, all the services that could not be estimated were paid out of the Civil List, and the amount afterwards made good from other grants. With regard to the sums which could be , estimated, the lion. Member was perfectly c o rr ec t i n ' his observation, and the next year lie would take care that particular estimates 'lmola be given. With re gard to the sum charged for Sir D. H. Blair, it was an expense which had been incurred for printing. Heretofore it had been paid out of the surplus of , the hereditary revenues of the Crown of Scollsnd, hut that *tarp! , now went to the Conackhde at . Jos .sled Fund, there was no other way of providing for it •but by estimate as now presented. Mr. HUNK wished to know how much more was likely to he required for this account. but at the conclusion of the war, as other nations much dimin refused t weed to the right to sear : iris Constitutiot the hi it *gime nsceesszy a a other Attorney 0 measure t e ttomeorsit Are*. to had hitherto the i t of 'Morrie nhe epos that officer. the of -tale *awl trader 4 rbi • le Ole Mr. Hot apps tment of the Commission Count.' !Ilse General co 'Frostier, however, were evaded, sod the trade was tiona, it bee still corned on extensively bk foreiirtieFertind too hold briefs I! —.ell. Ifl ----- .!hey • sitiftitt to be relii ivt;tt . Sit..ACSAC CO.rIIN, said , alter reading lite Resort of Si; Geoige Caller, he was salisfard that notbintf • *host of a deelemstsoo of ose against all vessels 4' every nation carrying it on could we *puide . •, ....., . - . I • wes emus securit y to the public spinet an undue Mr. ARBUTHNOT arid they 'arrays charged the 1 e", • fruat'llifitirithrng. - . .. . exercise of bill powers, to a S ocie ty w ith out any sum actually incurred ; it was imporsible to fore.: • Mr. Bsax•t. gave the fullest credit to the eilleeia, reepaeribility or check whativer. see what the amount mi g ht b e . .of the navy tor t he . tititteet,exectian Arich ;island- 'The Citamotta.os of the Examoulta said, that ' • The Resolution was Own agreed to. proposed was 49,05/. to make . 0 .4 1 I. * ! ulticoold he to prevent the trade ; but he' ow . pf the prosecutious which tookplee lass year , The next grant ••, , ry e , .1 pmlicßi the right of' search wive • were actual ly peading.as the time . when the grant good the deficiency of the Fee Fonda in the dc. • ~ . and. America. no • asessures was made. There had Asa occurred nraily other. •pirrunents of •the Treasary, the Seeretsries of State, Ow coat Ord •sreold •-erietemdlx put it Some preeecatione wlioh regetiied'ardaideiithlierb. and the Privy Council. ,-'•-- •" • - permev, wirier were not Itkit it to *Tete . win. - - Mr. Hess said, this being a sort of balance or --it ....a ti e w A t& 44 . c t a c wi r INA frepts4s Sr J. Httirrtit mist, eit its iranecil . to tlje attitoc . ow* 'teal oat quits iitelligibli without eft. eli - id a ii:iihnit ill tiidi ~ vs .l4; o#olpotos i Aii gas 'Aiwprit*.lie.faligmans ovia,`, tiiis peers he .idith be halhitl. rtit lie ti t ..x ... , ;,, i c ...- ~....., t,,,, L N. tlll r ' s . . . .• luarroi•..at .. ~ i .. ! , ..i.a; 1;1 4:4A) ;,.. :,• -,•,4 11 i,4,,,,,,,4 ) ..,. . . • .., - -... . ..,. . . • t : ; : of the establishments of the ewe! . etr ought le have stated the amount /lea latinefs office. in order babel, s f Ace. rind to give t ' f , .-.•+a esp-o` trg what particular • llftth regard to the au - itihe establishment had very much usereased of late ;whether it naghf not tObe restored - le its fur le. Tn 1796 the amount was 56,43'/.; at present it was 60,854/. Many of the sslartes had been largely increased ; the Assistant-Secretary had boats placed on the same footing as the two Secretaries. With the salaries of the latter he was sot much disposed to quarrel, for they had heavy duties to perform. But be saw no reason why the Assistant- Secretary should be so largely paid. He received 3,5001. for salary, and 900/. fur examining certain accounts. He should be told that he was a valuable mar. ; he was willing to believe it, but things of value might he bought too dearly ; and he would ask Gettilemen so consider seriously whether 3.800/. was not too large a salary to pay for a person in an office. The Ctiaiirellor of the Exchequer himself bail not so much. He thought the Seiler ought •to be made to .approximate ts that of 1796. and he threw out this observation in the hope that every endeavour would be made to reduce ir. Here again occurred an item of 5,165/. for retired allowances; he would repeat that all pension, and :retired al lowances from every public department shoaled be taken entirely away from the efficteut estimates of the department, and proposed in • separate account. It was his intention to propose a resolution to Ilia effect. The bead of contingencies we* one liable to much animadversion. There were no less than three private Seartarres, whose salarre* were placed uuder that bead. Now Ise shonid wi.h to loess., if these persons were effective, why they were not included in the regular establishments of the departments to which they belonged. The ex penses of the Secretary of Stair's office were, in 1796, 25,488/.; they now amounted to 58,1521.; being ill increase above datibie. The allowance to inessiengers ought also, its his opinion, to be taken out of these estimates. In the charge of the Fo reign Office there appea•ed a most extraordinary item : 1,0001. to Mr. Robert Ward, now Clerk of the Ordnance, to make up his salary equal to that of the Under-Secretary of the Treasury. He hoped to have the nett account of what that Gentleman now received, for it appeared to hint that he was now overpaid, even according to the arrangement by whirl be seas to recrive salary equal to an Under-Secretary of the Treasury ; but be that as it would, lie contended that this was not she esti mate the charge ought to have appeared irs.— The Honourable Member objected to some other items, particularly the ainouta of messengers and couriers last year, being 27,050/. an enormous sum ! He had been given to understand, that if any person belonging to our embassies abroad wished to come home, he brought dispatches with hint, though perhaps the ronteab were of no importance, acrd that entitled him to his expenses. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, that the recommendation of the Hen. Member (Mr. Hume), as to the &di mates of the different Departments. being laid be fore the House in detail, should be uttesided to its fitter,. He would suggest that the vote shoals, be taken as now proposed, as the fee fund wits to pay salaries as far is it went,and the deficiency only waswlst the Fiume was Called upon to vote. With respect to the salary of the situation which he had the honour to hold, he would beg to refer the Hon. Member to the Report of the Finance Com- Imatee its 1797, in which it would appear that in the last year of the American war the salary of the Secretary of the Treasury was 1,0001. a year more than it was present. It was settled in 1800 at 4.0001. a year, at which it at present remained. It was not for him to say if that were not too large, though he believed that every body knew the (Ace was no sinecure, .He would only observe, that by his appointment the public saved 51.000/. a year, as he vim oti the pension list for that sum (which he waived the receipt of), on account of Isis former employment its the dip's.- music line. With regard to Mr. Hardpan. he believed there was hardly a Gentleman in the House who was ignorant of his merits. He was chosen by Mr. Pitt, and consulted and esteemed by Lord Greoville, as well as by their successors. At present his health was so broken down s that he feared the public would not long have the benefit of his services. His Right Hon. Friend (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer) bed the expenses of the Treasury and other departments wider his consi deration, and the whole would be revised. With respect to the whole expenses of the Treasury, he begged the Honourable Member would take • comparison of the business done as well as of 14 salaries paid. lir 1797 the expens e s of the Treasury for salaries were 20.000/., and they were now something under 40,000/. Now as to the increase of busousis : there was in 1797, of registered papers, 4,500, whilst in 1819 they ex ceeded 20,008. and were at present above 10,000, and the unregistered ampere were also enormously increased. With regard to the allowances to the private secretaries, he would state, that clerks in public offices generally were etuploytd sully during she office hours, but during the lost winter, from the great addittonal labour thrown upon them, the greater part of the evenings had been devoted to the public business, and there was hot say Sunday that his Private S;cretary had Wowed three or four hours with brut, as that he lika the Committee would not think the addi tioatsol. a Tear was given for nothing. Sir ISAAc toreo bore testimony to the merits of Mr. Harrison. Mn Hum; thought that • great deal of that business of the Treasury which the Hon. Secretary talked of was brought on themselves by their rued dlrng the line of their duty, and instanced the voltunistosts correspondence laid before the House btkiseeu the Treasury and the Stamp Office, which all owns from the former interfering, an. isn ;- conceived improperly, in the appoiutment of dolts in the Stomp Office. Mr. GOULSURII said a few words. Sir Euw.4,an KRATCIIBULL said. if I of which the Hon. Member (Me. Arlsothesilldfoobe, of the officers of the Treasury and other poillffie de partioeuts. invalida diminution of Wag. it would be satisfactory Aye the individeals who would be , ' ai4Cted, bs,it.simiii but *AN of it as *aft st possible.- -• . . . , • v.: ‘ks The CILIRCRLEOE of the EICFIF.QUCII said (iv we understood), that he gins etigag,rd in consirlenng the subject of salaries, with referent.: to the altered state of the currency. to *Lich in fato►e wirpr,int. meets attention would he had, and that nidividusts would be early apprised of stay changes involving a diminution of their svisry. • I a • . . . - - Loyd rued hi, rstiafirlinwst Hie intention announced of considering the skived state of the currency in the salaries to be attached to all :renturinn iee, then eireied. Mr. AlM°.Tinto,. Ilion wowed for 45.6011/. to fo. granted to his Maj•stj• fur finteigit said •they seevrit *voice uttiowy. Mr. Hume wished to know "if the (ergo loss voted hist year hod been aII riovinkd. Mr. Annuntircrr know wheih r , w. ls 5 .,, sum note remsiuiuK in baud. Al one nu* these Estimates were mode op, ►h-re was 40 oso4. in hand, but three or roux mouths 11.4 el u t s-. 1 since then. Mr. Howe said, that 80.000/. had been " the year before the last, and 60.000/. in las , y•s., and he wished to know if thew •sUltill heal all bet:.. expended. Mr. ARBUTHNOT mid, the whole aeon voted th e . preceding ye.r had been expended, and 40,000/. of the last tear also- On the Report he would in form the Hoe. G-titteman if any was now iu hand, and to what amount. Mr. Howe said, he viewed this Resolution with great jealousy. He believed a great deal of this money had been expended in • wanner not at all conformable to the public interest, arid if it were intended that any part of this vote were to be miller the control of the Home Secretary, he should ob. ject to a single shilling being at lite disoosal. The CHANCELLOR of the Exciteaura said • few words, but . from the noise in the itslierr we were unable to collect the meaning of what he raid. The It-solut imt was then oreert to. On the Resolution fir granting 25,000!. for et penres of the gold coinage— Sir J. NEWPORT asked if it were in contempt,- lion to resume the coinage of guises-as Mr. W. Pots said, that by the proclsmation of his Majesty, the Mint could only coin sovereigns and half sovereigns. lie had no hesitation in saying that it was nut the intention to coin any more goineas. The Resolnion was then agreed to. Mr. ARBUTHNOT, in moving for 21,0001. for ex. rotates of printing Acts of Parlianueut, observed, that the expense of priating was enormous. It had been suggested whether it could not be dintioOrlied by having the work preformed by contrite. IVhe titer that could be done or not,he would not decide, bet he should feel it his duty next Sr. to pot pose that a Committee should be appointed to iu quire into the subject. Mr. Hume raid he was sati•fied there was no item in which greater sovinp could be made than in this. The Stationery Offree was worse than woeleas, and if there were an open competition, one half of the expense of prisitiog might he saved.. He 'flounced the 58th volume of tier Journals, in which he contended from calculations that, the expense of that might liars beets reduced front 3,9461. to 1,500/. Mr. ARBUTHNOT explained. Sir JOHN NIIWPORT complained that the supple of stationery at Dublin was granted to a private individual. He thought the whole of the question deserved to be looked at in the fullest mariner pee sable. He considered that by no other means cculil the public be so well and economically supplied us by open and public competition. Mr. C. GRANT said, the Right Ilon. &meet was aware that the supply of stationery was grouted .to an individual some years ago, and it war by the Government referred some time back to the Law Officer, of the Crown for their opinion on the validity of the grant ; and though it was no doubt the wish of Government to throw it open, yet they could sot act in the teeth of the opinion of their legal advisers. Sir Joao NEWPORT said he was fully aware if the circumstances stated by the Horn. Gentleman, and he also kitew that there was a difference of opi nion as to the validity of the patent. Two eminent Lawyers bad given their opinion against it; and Sir Samuel Shepherd, before whom it was laid, aidnered to that opinion of Mr. Plunkett and Mr. opposition to the °Onion of the Law Officers ul the- Crown. Mr. ARBUTHNOT said he hoped the Conimitsion which had been appointed by Act of Psoltament would be take,' as an earnest of his Majesty's Minis ters' intention to look into all shims. The Resolution was then agrees) to. Several votes were then agreed to for expense of printing Journals and Parliamentary Papers. 8,0501. was grouted foe Asterisms Loyansta; 2,3001. 10s. for eosialog Criminal Loriatiee; 0,3101. fur Supesanooatieta and Retired ifillossocts to Clerks • 5,00/. fur ihe Before for Ike Destitute 5,7311. 6s. 7d. fur drf.ciency of a itca10,,,(.4,1111. fur pristine Parliam e nta r y P a p ers; , 2,7051. fur • similar deficiency for r i o wnrAge h e liament ; 7,0001. for Salaries of Dames in receipt. of Ageborter ; 33,507/. fur the Public Oiler, Boo.aireet, inclisdiag ex pense of Horse amid foot Patrol, sod Ricer Pubes, am agreed to, alter a few words from Mr. Efaattat. sad Alt. Ctiwe. The following resolutiostaiwue t ken *Kota LIN 22,000/. for the Panteatiary at Minbnok 2,4601. fur expenses wail /apart. 1.0 fineg Boom its sa - Truth's Chapel; and 16,000/. fur Foam of the Afeittrat Company. On Mr. A 111UTIANOT onststag a 14401M5: 1 .1i 1 4 2,4441. for the Civil Essairlishaient at Sierra Leo.,r Mr. BRRN•L observed, there was a C0116141,/n -ble increase in this item, and be would ask the Hun. Gentleman opposite. if, frost be eeperitutee, ix could say, with a view to the objects for wind) the colony was originally established, that the results were such as to coospensatelor the expense Mr. Goutouas said, that port of the expiate was increased by buildings which it had bees feudal necessary to mat. as the sickens which pre vailed there Was • by the weatof adequate veettieness, sad sea Ikea the isselebsey of the ch ase. It vsee therefore mud seceded to.. the* Goversoloot shoeita passer to Porlisontat • rapt of MIAOW. a year for each NfilM 06 0ect to the gigieril utility 4 the d4ay. leasteadti speak with essikkoce, sseilitedesntogrt moan ht-foit ISM is this costatgr St *ft 03.41.1 b _ r ~~' U. El