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■ R 1 • i , 'seeded to Noy that i bis Hoe. Colteage renialo,a ;fleet a fro neseenta homer, he thought he would hare fussed what he was shoot to Nair perfectly enisteetery. Hawing Inn acquired the paper which hey had thought so seem. my, if the neeeerable Member would forego his nisei• eatery eedeplont, they out the other side mid ohmage. all 'farther settee of hie eessehoet. Mr. H. Mill NER did sot feel at Ilherly to secede to the proposal of his Honourable Priced. He meld as submit to remain ender the imputation of having bee* guilty of conduct .hiclo lie linnet !runt hawing tit 3. tikwrowr cooler not refrain frame eaprinsiogi sorption at the him. Member's persisting is the owns he pursuing, after the teeing of the Howse had here as Ateproand.et the prepriny et lositissu-se-: _ . DODO over for the present. . W'. H G. BENNETT said, at be wee one .f. the Poi fraturesim ebb case, it there were to ►e any liquify tat Ste into the tpkijoet, be could not tensest to the smallest Yes, ors," from ,read *embers near )—No, yst for oats hoer. He eould, however, ignore the Hon.Mem. tor /Merry, that for his own part he was Tette ready to caret hint again in the Committee ea Monday, wed to pro wed with elm Bill as if no istesroption. had takes place. -Yew use whatever day the iloveiry might be goo , into, wht ther it sins Monday or at that nromeou, he felt that the beat "mtd intempersoier would be equally great. There would be tinnelf.tor Members on each side flatly contradicting cash Mlbor.—(Lensokrer, and Hear. hear.)—He pledged himself NO the "loom that it would be she fact. There would be ',web a •bas of contradiction as world render it impossible Ntthe House to come to aay detision hetweep the parties. this they bad already • sufficient example in the op josh* dstriment of the Chairman sad the Roo. Mover as to der question is the Committee. The Hoe, Gestlessau then idereeedetto tallied the House of the stammer is which their • Peotordings found their way to the public; sod put it to lira to consider whether it would contribute to advance its 'Credit with the country and the world. to, hove it made Moomm wherever the Fattish language was soderstood, that lift* grits Members in a Cominsittr ou a private Bill, ►o sine lost their temper as to prim total 'Mame to the bemires, -us which they were engaged, and to wade a whole moraing "id wrangling, until the Speaker irking the Chair pot an end to their sepsabbling.—(Hear, hoar, boar ) . The SPEAKER then again addressed the House, calling Its ottri.ion to the several points of the case IN they pre. seated themsseivra to his mind from the statements be had ileasel. After which the subject dropped. Sir W. LEMON pretested a Petition from Falmouth, Ceara• well, penis' for a revision of the Criminal Laws.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. HEATUCOTE presented a Petition from Owners and Occupiers of Lead in the pariah of Humheislicld, Lin rids, complaining of scricultni al distresi.—Referred to the Committee on Agriculture. Sir R. HERON promoted • Petition from Stamford, Lim. roloshire, complaining of agricultural disiress.—ltekrred to the Committee on Agriculture. Sir GEORGE CLERK presented a Petition front the Sawyers of Edinburgh and Leith. against nee alteration of the Julies on sawed tinshcr.—Orderid to be printed. Mr. MA BERLY moved for Accounts of all Clerks and others admitted into any Civil Appuistraesits sines Ist of Jsausvy, 1818; distinguishing their salaries and services, mud •hewing she dates sod copies of their appointments_ Ordered. 'l'br CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved for Accounts of mil Clerks and others whose services bare bees dietio•thened Inure the above period.—Ordered. Mr. METHUEN presented Petitions from Thomas north, Thomas Reath, William Gladstone, and Edward Matthews. Mr. R. MARTIN moved the second reading of the Mile Corouers Roll—Ordered to be committed on Monday next. tirrLETON moved the second reading of the Church Briefs Bill. Slr. CURWEN acid Mr. MONCK 'pate is objection to vesting the management of the moue" collected fur church briefs in the churchwardens. Mr. LITTLETON replied.—The Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Toesdey sleet. Mr. *tired 0148 LOW moved the third reading of the him& Trial for Treason Bill. The Hum and Learned bonito.- llCsle brought op several new clan•es: one of them went to put the set of instigating sad couspiriog against the Kiss', life, or of compassing, devising, ur instigating the King's death, upon the same fouling of mime •rd penalty as the English tremolos law plse.s those offenses. The clauses were added, aft' r whirls t h e Bill passed. Mr. BROGDEN brought up the Report, ea the Parish lodestones Bill. The romilutions of the Committee were speed to by the House. METROPOLIS ROADS BILL. Mr. D. GILBERT moved the et euud reading of the Con. tulidatiou of Trusts 11111, and ',Meted at souse length into the views and 'notices under which he bad acted in bringiug torw•ed this 011 1 ,111111 t., Sir E. K NATCH BULL opposed the motion. He thought the improveinem of the roads about the Metropolis had Is • see sprh. as to reader soy alteration of the trusts uterseees ?ivy. lie moved, as an Anseudineut, that the Bill be read a second time this day six smoths. sr. DENISON concurred Pt all that bad fallen from tk Hun. Baronet, though he gave the Hoes, mover credit fur the ca n did and able manner in, which he hail brought the ►:l4ect taward. Its said that theirs was so much economy sod improvement in the maitageniest of the roads about tkr no tropulis, that there could be uu Disesissity for altering M:. Rll' EN objected to various provisions of the Bill, •n'3 supported the amendment. Mr. F. LEII IS supported the motion. He admitted the al goodness of the roads, but he thought that they were rmt managed with sulEcimit economy. The latter objest mill be best effected by cousulidating the trusts wader the Mr. CALCRA FT opposed She Bill. He observed the goofs in the vicinity of the metropolis were in a better state so y iu the !audition. It had bees stated by an Hoa. I:milkman that preceded him, that he would not proceed in yry.position to the penults cusicerurd in it. Bat surely he could out bat ressember, that thirty Gentlemen of re ba-d tbo.Rbl rho matter of no_leetent importance 4.1 Petition agabset it and if Abe Bull were persevered in, 'lie lipped it wads, lilt all other Bills of this nature, be re fm red • ir. a Painisastee 110 stairs. Sir HENRY PARNELL supported the Bill, and mils gixed the conduct of the Committee, and if it essid at all lie Awn(' this this Bill is vow nut necessary, it nasal entirely lie attributed to the exertious of the Committee. Mr. HOLM E SUM NER Omagh' those gentlemen would be most hmilly dealt • ith after their great exertions, if the Bill were nut read a fecund time. lie shorild certainly sup port the 111011110 for a Committee bat on the express under standing that it should be subm:ipeendy referred to a Cum. millet up stairs. Alr. DENISON said • f.w words in explanation, after which the gaiter, was cleared fur a division. 44,1 our motto 110 the gallery we found Mr. DAVIES GILBERT iu possession of the House. lie slid he had the greatest wish to accommodate, and although 1 , - should fifer the nimbly to a Committee of the selsole still he should tousesit to a Committee up stairs, provided it acre a Select Committee. After a few swords from Sir H. Parnell, Mr. Caleraft, and - the Chareelhir of the Exchequer, the Bill was referred to a Wee, Coatokilter. IrawnellllLTON inured for as actotout (doll tureigo wool Imported oicte 1115. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. On lise 1111 l own that the Iluu*e du tettolve itself Cult:notite of Supply— Mr. CREIVEY ro.e. He ►rid be regretted keep . ...r. I...,RECTLY TOse. He _ in. Mt. Speaker in the Chair, and tiriaiiinig the loupe on a Lineation which he knew could nut be tameable to them, but be knew no other cour-e which, a Member of Parliament, he could pur bar. Ile thought alit, itiste4il of continuing the estitna , es of Ole army fur the peeseut year, awl K ranting supprtrs, we should retrace ours e ts. We Late Petthona strewed is the table, calling for eco iiumical reform, mid deuratidi:ig tetrenchmenr. di.tinguishid could poreate. t here as the trustees of ehe pygede x ,eieg.,_ _,..ew.instri. had berm voted away. a. .. —_ isei it happen dist we ereeis . Unlike all other ha:tient a circumstance occoreed which would trustees in the world?. , Sore ly if the emote of a now-a-days probably get • man sent to prison. The gentleman becomes mobsersaml, met that Peden names of 24 persons were pointed out as pensioners are appointed to take the anniagestent of it, no of the Crown. But it fell to his lot the other men ever heard that the gendenien got Oistbitig night. to reckon 47 placeines slid peasimers walk from the trustees; the find thing they **aid do is out of that door, and yet in that same 66 pension to remove all the hangersoti sod encumbrances frees Parliaineut," it was emiaidered " a mercy and the estate. But the troth i., the lessees is this wonder that ally liberty at all had been left," ems live slat the estate ; the b e n / erre 00 them- although there were hut 24 pensioners amongst a l ma ar e the trestrea..—iffeepr, Natalia & or . I—. them. With respect to what had fallen from his lie often Abotight it would be a very pad thing, Hon. Friend (Mr. Creevey) about the declaration at least iteuesad be most entenalisiog. if a eon- of a Noble Lord (Earl Fife). be certainty thought .. stflithe people were held. sod delegates sp. it required the most se r io u s censideration. Nut ~ elleittesid at the Bar of that Hodge to re- (hit he supposed Minist e rs most not revert their masstratil"fer the westefel expenditure of their dependants, who held offices under them, to sup alone?. Wbv the first thing they would my would port their measures, but be, thought that on some :be, INS :, " pentlensea Inmate", we have mai sod occasions a little decency might to be observed. lie ovetingand petitioned you to aimed to our dietreMes, bad been looking into the Bill of Rights this day , still'Youltave mot done it. you brie Coined ti deaf and he t h ere found it laid down " 'flat the free ear *ball our entreaties,siel,Gentlectien, we beisably dons of speech end debate iu Parttime t should uut hope you will excuse us for saying that we eateresin be questioned in any place out of Parliament." some strange suSpiciums. that you make • very And surely if a man's speech is not to be quer pretty thing of us."—( Hear, bear.)--He should nested, still less should his vote. Yet the Earl of like that souse of these delegates Itad beets in that Fife gets up in hit' place, and declares that he • Homo foe the last ten nights, when his Honourable had heard from authority that he was disinised from Friend (Mr. Western) by some surprise on the the office of Lord of the Bed-chausher t in couse trustees had carried a measure dust was Wiled 4 quenceof the vote lie gave on the Malt Tax, end the country as a favourable omen. He recollected mot a single Member of the Administration rose to when the circumstance was alluded to by an Hon. deny or explain the statement. He had given Friend of his (Sir J. Mackintosh), the Noble some attention to the question, and consulted some Lord (Castlereagh), the leader of the trustees, said, authorities, and he 'sailor optilion, that utiles, the " Don't halloo until you are out of the wood."— assertion of the Earl of Fife were contradicted by (Cheers.)—Tiwee words lie shnuld remember is his Majesty's Ministers, the House were buuud long as lie lived. He was really surprised at the to conclude there were moue advisers about the dexterity and management of the Noble Lord, but person of the Sovereign that deserved impeach the meaning of them words had Mace appeared meta. The Hun. Gentleman then alluded to a pretty manifest. Fur immediately on the ta ,„„, pamphlet written by the celebrated Locke, which mons of the Noble Lord, all his brother trustees made a considerable noise at the time. It was to Came to town from every part of the country, some be found anwagst Lord Suiners's pipets. It even from the county of Devon.. —(Mach laughter.) stated, " that the (louse was so o . ffieered that the —The Noble Lord iiumedistely sounded the Minister could prevail on simple country gentle trustees—all is over—ull the pieces. all the iii-- men, who weer afraid of the French, to vote tronage will be destroyed if this suresure is carried. for any sum he wished."—( Hear, hear, hear.) B The consequence wss, what hail been a minority Nut it was our duty nut to squander the public was immediately converted into a triumphant money. The people have a eight to see, when majority. But this war not all. A Noble Lord of they intrust us with their money to defray the pub great distinction, a great northern grander, the tic expenses, that we put noise of it in our pockets. Thane of Cawdor. got uir in the House, and stated, He would not detain the House longer. It was that he how 8001. a year by giving his vote.— always wish extreme reluctance that he stated these (Near, hear.)--Why, what becomes of these chaos- unpleasant truths ; but some one must do it. He pious of privilege ? Where was the Hon. Mem- had to thank the [louse fur the attention they paid ber for Montgomeryshire (Mr. Wyuu), or the au individual who had such humble claims to their Hon. Member for Yorkshire (Mr. S. Wortley), iudulgeuce.—(Hear, hear.) who would seize upon a printer, mud drag his to The gallery was then cleared for a division ; none, the bar for using hank expressious tu a malority ? however, took 'place. On our return we found —"Hear, hear.)—Why theise celebrated theta cots, Mr. CaLcawrr addressieg she House. He was Avert: as mate as mice, *hid , made him sick ich pi b oth adverting to thecircuinsittince of a Member of Par. of the privilege sod of the champions.--(Chews) hornets( sieclernig in the House that he had beet, I dismissed Irons ha office, in consequence of a vote; .This WM Met the case its former times, then there wee tomee.destraey in the Ileum of Cesamous thau no*. he had sites. However, as his words were not +-/Lead cries of " Hear," frost the Mfaitterial taken doors., lie would say no owe on that subject. beaches.)—Gentlemen seemed disposed to amuse l'o the other points, however, of the propovition, he tisam,oveis with charm. somewhat like the per i o d to entirely agreed, namely, that the Petitions of the which he was about to allude. In the reign of Eli- people have beets disregarded, and that no economy zabeth, a cabins great Serjeent having made a or retrenchment whatever have been effected.— speech, he was Met by that kind of parliamentary I (Hear, hear.)—He also concurred with bias in say. nog, that the influence of th, Crown was entirely eloquence which, instead of deer ' g, seemed to too powerful at present M that House. If his Hon. have improved its our days—he enema the practice of coughing Gentlemen down. The Learned Ser. Freud's motion went so far iss to condemn the jeant was quite surprised at the sudden cold that principle of the Executive Officers of the State having seats in that House, he could not agree with took possession of the House, and having remarked on it, the tumult increased to such a degree that it.r.-(" illlsr, no," from Mr. Ctreetey)-3-He was glad he was obliged to sit dawn, and never made a speech to hear it, because however small the divi there afterwards. However, he could immure the *ion might be. lie should be proud to form part of it, now that he leurned lie eoold do so without House lie was not to be pot down in this ITISOnefI l'he Hon. Geothm in concluded by moving— . compromising soy of his npinioust amid lie did That during the protocol Session of Parliasseat pet.: k think that the Executive Officers of State ought to lions have liteu persisted to this House from every part o r be iu that House, and it was likewise his opinion this kingdom, and frees every descriptive of its population, they were not overpaid.—(ther, beer)—But he cinstaiiiing statements of distress hitherto unheard of in this did think there were officers in that House whore nation, and uniformly demanding as use species of relief to services there might be dispensed whit, and as his their su Nes Ingo, the strictest possible economy in the repro ditare of the public mosey; that the statements so made Hots. Friend's motion did oot mean to sweep away here in every instance been fully confirmed by the local the Executive Officers of the State, there was no isiformation of the differeot Members of this House, who part of et in which he did not concur, t ome pr esen t e d such Petitions; and yet, notwithstanding Lord CASTLESIAGH said he had hardly ever ob. such universal appbeations fur relief, the diferent estimates served any estimate or vote on which the Hon. fur the public service fur the year have hitherto been pro. Gentleman opposite (Hr. Creeee)), who might be eeeited in, Ind millions of money wilted for such purpose., 14 jihOUi any the least possible reduction whatever by this styled Protester-General and Libeiler-Geheral of Mass, although repeated effoi is have been made to effect the Parliament, did not come forward with his objec same. That this House entertains the strongest possible opi. nous. H. regularly came before the Honoutuble slims, that this masked indifference of the representative body Member for Alsordeen, who so regularly followed to the sufferings of its constituents is mainly attributable to the . feho . i „, teru,eie. _ shat a eery numerous body ., the m ew , es the play did the prologue. That Honourable bets of this House derive fur themselves, their families, coo. Gentleman (Mr. Creevey) was for a considerable stexioasobod floptadosis, large pecuniary provision from the time in a lucrative situation in his Majesty's ser of the people; and as such prtivi.itnis for the mist pert sisidtritter for Wares altogether useless or grossly over , amithere fore the fittest objeetsforimmediateretinetion 6. redrcelea, so 'beholders or dispo•ersofibein is ibis House :, ~ :i ce, in the Board of Control, sod he (Lord Castle •reo..l,) then never heard him complain or the ex :dilute of time couutry, or of the number of haves direct personal iaterest in resisting every species.' useless' offices. It was only since the llohnurable wassirmical reform whatsoever. That in addition to Ibis great Garth:times retirement from office diet he had .premsomat bat to all ecouomical reform, the House has late. SO Occupied him-elf. and he (Lord Castlereagh) Ob. ty witnessed, with the greatest indignation, the leflueore of eerved that his .colouring was higher exactly in dre Crown &splayed by its kliuisters in this House Ina man proportiosi to the elotigniton of his orbit from the A lso she must arbitrary, and with she expreu sad avowed üb heet of interfering with its M.-sobers in the discharge of their sphere of Office. Tile Hon. Gelltletonai and him dsty to their constituent's, the Earl of Fife, who lately INN the self moved in such ditfereut mints, that he did not elite* of one of the Lords of the Bedchamber to his Me. think (though lie had mobil% to complain of as to :j u ry, having neesitly declared in his place in this Homo, as the nsusiner la which the Host. Member pelf anted one of its blembers, that he bad been dismissed from his -seise as Lord of the Bedchamber to his Majesty, iii*eauss. his duties' in that House) that lie was called upon ' grlnflbe of having voted in this Monte in favour of a Bill to (iiotwithstending the pomp of preparation with repeal a tax upon malt. which he came dealt), he (Lord Castlereagh) did "That, under •II these circurastantes„ this House le of wit feel i nc li mii i to appear omen the stage . l i e 'pinball it will better cunswit its own hestrOur •nd the lut. rest believed it would be allowed that it was the of the public by immediately inoubing tutu the facts brfuie • reest i o ,we, than is cuing say longe r tu tu C o mmittees of undoubted prerogative of the Crown bosh to -impiety tu vote sway the mosey of the people without the epirviut awl dismiss its servants, and he therefore ibilinst puseible prospect of reliif to the cuuetry." neither owed it to the Hon. Members for Wrist ' Mr. Hoistiouss said, that iii rising to second the ttt i t liter and Appleby. or to the House. to enter motion. lie felt the same kind of reluctance that bit into ail explashati if the inutile. inducing the lion. Friend did who had just sat down. Ile oar Crown so &swiss any public *tryout. Ile was very afraid, however, that that operas would not produce sure that Geollenien its the other stile ought the 'sine goo.' humour amongst the people wt it did I to be the lost tu question that right of the Crown, in that House, for lie feared -it • would be a lung for oti an rictus on when an eminent friend of time (q) use the phrase of th e Nettle Lord) before I the Iliniutirahle Geisileman war about to take ' h e y were out o f th e wo o d. Th e ' ver ve pursu e d I office, be ileclihrtl cluing it wiles, he hail the by his lion. Frteod was loerfecily cosieteutioual, I appointment of Use Ewe's personal sell/snits. our did he wrist Iti g t• authority its support of the 1 'I im Hose alenilier, aim was Iteretof.re Secretary proposition, for they hud the opinion of a 'limits- . of the Ordnance, was now very reedy tu cut down guished indii (Sir T. 11'entwuttli) " that supplies ' the influence of the Clown, though lie thought it an I grievances went baud iu htud.".—( Heur.) -... of whim to the atoetry a !It'll the piety with whom . a I I t lin , ls.llas need br.l :-..). . 00 l - ~•s, 4 "mu. ....34;0 44'1if .1 0 1111 MOW 111111 tMwWO 1 e l big. " "" rap .sus •"' " . .• . . . . . Ihrit Nothing, believer, was done, nolwitholanding the Tht'e Was also The sithority of a distinguished 1 " 8 " exertions of his Honoarable Friend (Mr. Humme), Sliocematt or the present dap (Lord (*anville). ' bi g Winked cris all Anode to be successful* . Sap fie said, that if the Home were teethed lia.hcep riot. ployed. 'Not .:74i*spRilit up such a statidiagt army, that would nip Wiper on ell Member fr Ifraresher (Mr: W el ):011 the interfere in their debaiS, One it Om nothing but H„„,, ina b Member fir . ersrfa soft' , Me. farce, and they could sever caplet tray good to be •. &stokes), and neither of these spec 'ye &Ate- done for the country. These was a Parliament )Best noes, hid voted for a reduction of 10,000 starts, once held this country celled " The Pension " 7 o. whichwould effect a saving of • million of money, Parlisasent." width, Speaker of that day, rather gill no retrechinent has token place, and he kola a good kind of s man is his way, declared with nur- se be of no other esoteric which he could pursue.. yre terse. that in the course of 24 h ours the sum of . . . • al but u to ix he acted administered it. He denied that the NM.. Lied' who hail beets ailutiriti-to bad stied that he was . diaminird hoe hie °Gee on ireeeeet of the irate winch he had given its that House; he heard tk Noble Lon' declare, that he had re ceieed aQ intimation 'het his' services were no longer required, mid he afterwards entered into a hypothetical statement of his duties as a Member of Parliament. Though tie (Load Castlereagh) de nied the right of the Honourable Mesuber to call upon him in his situation of Minister to state why the Crown appointed or dismissed its ' , tryouts, yet he should conter.d that it was not unju•ttfiable in those who administered the Government to expect that those who were in office with them should con cur in mea►ures of great public importance, and afte► it bad been declared that hi* Mitjeovy's tier visits could nut administer the affair, of the country if this means were denied of sustaining public ere (Sit. A vote given 'Oast so important a tax us the one on malt, was nothing else than • vote for the dismission of his Majesty's Ministers. Mr. CALSZAFT did nOt deity the right of the Crown t• dismiss its own screams-, he only contend ed that the reason assigned was unconstitutional. • Mr. TICINLY said he was taken by surprise itl the ',resent motion; he had come down exsecriiig the army estimates to be brought before the How; instead of ►hat they were prevented with a incillonni containing a great variety of different subjects. ihr felt some embarrassment on the subject, because tae would Jut wish to be held up as oppossng any , of the topics of the motion, if brought separately and distinctly before the House, but without previous consideration to call upon him to vote on ►hem all at once he felt to be impossible. The first part of the motion he imagined might be agreed to. That every practicable reotionly ought to be pursued, there was no inan in the House or out of it snore ready than himself to allow, sod there was no ad ministration that ought to possess the confidence of the couutiy fo► ea hour, unless it were prepared to make great reductions. The case of Lord Fife, I►e considered an insuperable objection to his concur ring in the motion. He was not in the House at the Base the Noble Lord spoke, and the Votes gave him uo iiiformation, es the words were not taken down. It stood thus, has Hon. Friend said the Noble Lord stated une thing, which the Noble Lord (Cootie- Ranch) denied. It was imposible, therefore, that he should consent to the motion. He agreed with the lion. Member for %Vestminster, that if the facts were as stated, the Ministers who advised it ought to be impeached. But how was the truth of the facts to be got at ? there woo only assertion against masers tion. The whole gist of the question was, whether the Noble Lord was removed, no reason being as. signed, or removed for a reason highly disgrace ful. The Noble Lord had, lie thought, gone out of his way to make en attack on that side of the House, as if the cases alluded to were not quite distinct. If in the formation of an Administration the Ministers had not the appointment of the household officers, there would be two jarring authorities in that House ; but it we never contended by any of his friends that they ought to have the power of dismissing his Majesty's personal servants on account of their votes in that House. The Noble Lord attacked the Honour able Gentleman (Mr. Creevey) because he did not object, whilst he was in office, to the super- Bout offices of which he now complained; but did the Noble Lord mean to argue that he could not now, in time of peace.object to that which he, in time of war, might have thought it necessary to measure by • different scale? What he would ask of his Hon. Friend was, not to press his present motion, hut to bling the different items forward in detail. If hr did not it would be impossible for him to give the motion his support, particularly under the circumstance of the fact being disputed as to Lord Fife. Mr. Ban ezrr said, that as to the Earl of Fife, the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) admitted the fact, and justified it. The Earl of Fife had stated in the House that he bad had it from the highest au. thority, that hie loss of office was a punishment on him for the vote which he had given, and as an ex ample to others. He (Mr. Bennett) regretted that the words had not been taken down. He agreed with every particle of his Hon. Friend's motion, and therefore he would beg of him to permit in it. Lord A. Hauturow said, he was not sure that if Lord Fife were present he would admit the words afiich had been stated to have been his. As far as lie (Lord Archibald Hamilton) recollected, be (Lord Fife) stated it as his impression that he was so dismissed. Agreeing as he did with great part of the motion, he could not vote for it, uncertain us he was if the whole were true. The Admiuisiration had expected that Lord Fife would disgrace himself, for they could have no expectation else of his voting with them, as he had voted against them last year. IVlty was not it then resented ? The Noble Lord had beet 'in structed by his constituents to vote against the tax, and he had performed his duty. He shisti/d like to ask if Loud Fife owed his appoiubuctit'lo the Noble Lord or his colleagues, whethee t tiley had approved or recommended it ? If they•:lied not, they had no ground to expect that subser viency to their wishes which they seemed to have claimed. lie would be glad to know whet credit would be thought to attach to the vote or Lord Fife's successor? Would it not be con sidered by the country that the tenure by which he held his appointment was complete subserviency to those by whom lie was appointed ? Mr. Cassese explained; after which the House divided, whet. there spiteared—.. FUf Ur. Cieevey's wallow Agaiest it . . 150 Majority B4 On our return to the gallery we found Mr. HUME on his legs. Ile declared that he should follow the example of his lion. Friend (Mr. Creeves), and should lie proud to move in the Salute lung as he (volumed to exert him self a. lie lisd done hitherto. li e 'eve rted ex tremely the debate K ull subsequent division which had taken place, particularly as Hun. Member., though they differed as to words, yet all agreed la thee fact, lie begged to uoorre the Noble Lord that though he was now g g ou wish the farce, lie had no euntrauniodam with his Hon. Friend, and hewer asked him to speak the prologue, His Hou. Friend bad compared the Noble Lord to a trustee, but he rather ought t 9 hOOO .Z 16 been compared to a schoolarater, who turned slut refractory out of the school, anal urged oat hot good boys by telling them he would leave them. H should stow confine himself to the civil depart. menu of the army. COmparing them oath the year 1792, there appeared a altfierenre of 87,000% increased expense, a difference which in the seventh year of peace was esouritrues. It sessisospoweilolo for him to allow the House to go into a Comanager ; so long as they refused. to revise these enormous rat abbaliaseuts. eon pledge tisentseires to eamtosseri of ecoomny, he should from cloy to day confine* to submit motions to the Hostile. Tlx inossan he °waiet to submit oow 1 1 14$ founded oil the 4th Report of the Committee of Finance in 1817, which was a Report recommending a redact iou of e.tablialt= rural*, though from that Joy to this it had lain: deed letter on then. table. The lion. Measbor condoned by enossiisg— ,' not it be so irerucliee to the Committee to take ire coasideraire the reeimoweirdation of the Comointre of Forserre to this House, is their oath Report, reissued irr the following. terms t—t , What your Committee, thr re f eie . earaestlyrecommeall is this, that the Lords of the Treasury shireW cell for a miens of the peeler erablisheseate of all the civil office' is the Stale, fir esker of which homelier& increased within the lent IS yea" nod with a refereser Or the eiresesetanees erre stated, and sec* other onwideratione as the altered skeeter' of nee courry sod the peculiar Nature of each eellabliskateris may roger ; shot May elerwlit make a rewires of the same, arid duvet sash proepeesive redisetime sherries* May appear to them reasoaable, with out impariog the ellhafesey of the service.' "Your Committee tarot that the oboe-emirs* which they have submitted to the Reese be this sad their former Replete are sufficieut to show the expediency of this reindeer It Is not their isteutioa S. person the subject farther at present, except to remark that the system adopted of late years in some, and oow ertle•ded to most of the public ogees, of a progressive increase of itailivey, by reason of length ef ser vier, if nee Mall eases objectionable in principle, is st Mast liable to • great shoos le practice. " The several scales which have hitherto come maw the view of your Committee vary so match, both se to the kamth std periods of service, which shall currier the nest and s.eh soccer'', addition of salary, that your Committee feel re winced the whole arrangerreat has grows to its present ex tent, watered any well matured plan oe • sofileitut err deratio• of the consequences. Oue proof of this they lure al ready bad occasion to advert to in their Report on the Ord sauce Department, in which this practice has bee° carried to the greatest leugth, sad applied to classes (such as Messes. gees, Bernick Master*, and others) nut entitled to the beadle it is any other departamat. As a general measure it ap. pears liable to the greatest objection, under the present cir cumstances of the emistry, of having placed beyond the eon trot of Government, at least without an interference, not wholly comnsient, perhaps, with the equitable claire of the parties, the coalinti•l increase of official remuneration, whom these circumstaaces world require that all such increase should etre. " Year Committee woeld therefore recommend, Ist, That the system of remit', or regressive increase of salary for A Isegth sherries, should he swapeuded altogether, with the exception which they have already stated; mid perhaps also, wit► the farther exterior prospectively of an addi tion, not exceediog Se per coot. oa the origioal salary, being allowed to any establish ell clerk in the junior or lowest clam of any office, who might have served 'eves years to the sa tisfaction of ►is auperio► officer, without having, during that period, obtanted say step of promotion." _ - Lord A. HAMILTON ruse to second the motion, though he acknowledged lie would himself have re commended a shorter instruction to the Committee, yet coming from the quarter it did, rod being so plain and so seasonable a propoeition lie could nut av o id seconding it. The Noble Cord then went into an examination of the superannuation allowances to several officers, and complained particularly of sllowance of t,OOOl. a year to Lord Tyravily, as late Barrack-master General of Ireland. This, it appeared, had been enjoyed IS years. He should like to know if Lord Tyrawly retired as super annuated in years ago. He did not mean any thing disrespectful to the individuals whose names he had mentioned. The Ministers might be able to give explanation, and all he should observe was, that certainly explanation was required. The CHANCELLON of the Excuaquse acid, if the Noble Lord and the Hon. Mover had atteoded to the papers laid on the table, they would hive seen that a very extensive reduction had taken place in every breech of the public service. Many Important reductions had been made since the Re. ports had been laid on the table. A general in struction had been issued front the Treasury, that whenever any office became vacant, an in quiry should take place, • report should be made whether the office could be dispensed with. The reduction. had not yet been carried to the extent which Ministers or the House might think ad. visible; but the House would see how much in dividual injury would be sustained from any digested or premature attempt at reduction. ter,,, structions had also been given wholly to suspend the scale of increasing salaries for length of service, and the same measure been extended to reducing them individuals already in pomeseion of advanced salary. In some offices a greet increase of duty had taken place; the Irish Chancellorship of the Exchequer had been consolidated with the English. But whilst • the Speaker was in the Chair he felt it would be impossible to enter into particular cases. He would only observe that Lord Tyrawly's was a patent office, and the Noble Lord (A. Hamilton) should be aware that influenced the amount of the retire. meat allowance. Sir Joint NEWPORT said he should not have said a word if it had riot been for what bed been mentioned as to the Berrackensster Gement! •f Ireland. In 1803 the Noble Lord retired from office, and ill 1810 or 1811, in consequence of an examination of his accounts before a Committee. a large balance appeared due from the Noble Lord. and the pension was then suspended till the ac count should be arranged. What Mel been since dune, or whether the account had yet been settled, he did not know, but thought it extremely desirable the House should he informed. He would not take twos, himself to say who was culpable iii the matter, bat he could ouly aver that in 1810 or 1811 the account was trot settled. Mr. D. Beowtru spoke, but in so tow a tatter that he was scarcely audible in the gillerY; from what we could collect. lie stated must the accounts hail been under exesuiriation, and nearly the whole of the guest manual balance struck off. Sir Joint NEWPORT rose to state, in millets. tit'''. that it was far front his lactation to east ally aspersion upon the character er conduct of Ltd Tyrawly. He only tneuut to wake the inquiry, which lie again repeated. Mr. 1Vk1.1.11/11.811° Pain felt happy to have it in his IN"Ver to *may in some measure the inquiry of the Right Hon. Bomar,. When he had the honour to hold the office of Chief Secretary fur Ireland. 4 there was found to exist rest difficulty in getting