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I Clergyman leek an mth et his ordinstiou that no foreign Power had any spiritual jurisdiction within this rads. How could the Clergyman now take that oath, when the Bill regulated and ackweiw ledged the intercourse with the Pope ? The Pro testant sae ther o •ere has no uuthority, the Catlin tholic says he h and both declared by the issue Act of Parliament. Protestantism was the key which bound all the parts of the edifice of our Constitution t . If that were given op ad would be oared which our ancestors acquired in 160. Besides, from what had lately passed in Ireland, they bad no reason to believe, if this measure were awfied . that the Catholics in that country would be satisfied. When be recollected the concessions which were made in 1793, he had every reason to believe that the Catholic claims bad grown by wbsst it fed on. At Stotiyhunit, Jesuits had been established, brought over, as he smiler. stood, from Liege, and the order had bees formally established by • Papal rescript. Should the Bill pm, he could not see any thing to prevent the Jesuits having an establishment in the metropolis. He thought the House were Not prepared to sty that this order of &nee who bad beer, exiled from Russia should find protection in this country. The Rowan Catholic religion had ever been the parent and nurse of arbitrary power. For the troth in that assertion lie might appeal to our cows history. In the time of Mary and James 11. the liberties of tee people were nearly overwhelmed. The dawn of Protestantism and liberty rose togr. flier : nor need he confine himself to our own les tory only; iu both Switzerland and Holland free dom slid Protestantism had gone lewd in head. Perhapafrom early prejudices he might attach more weight to that argument than it deserved. He had been brought up, and hoped he ever should temaiu, 'a frieud to civil and religious liberty. Should the Bill pass, the oath which his Majesty takes at the coronation would become of uo weight wh a tever. The Learned Prelate concluded with expressing h's anxious hope and prayer that the vote of to-night would prevent the recurrence of the anxieties which the agitation of the question gave birth to, and that their Lordships would declare in the spirit of the Barons of old, their determination Dot to eudaager the safely of this Protestant country. The Bishop of NORWICH warmly 'spooned the Bill. He would ask if any person, either in the House or in the country, believed that the Ca thulics of the nineteenth century (and it was fur them their Lordship. were legislaiing) held any opinioes incomputable with the info, of our civil and social institutions.? He declared himself no party roan—he never •at any time attempted to push hisnrelf forward upon his opiuiosis ; but he was anxious to express his sentimeuts this night, as in all human probability he never should lave another opportunity of doing so. His Lord ship concluded his speech (great part of *lnch we regret to say was not audible below the bar) by giving his cordial approbation to the Bill. Lord Iteoestiaee said their Lordship* had been called upon to oppose this Bill by one Noble Lord upon what he celled the priticiple of it ; but the difficulty was to find out what was the principle of the Bill, since one clew contradicted the other. This set urity of the Protestant succession was slot • mere parchtneut security, but deptuded on the King, being of necessity a Protestant, and the restriction under which he lay hot to merry a Roman Catholic. The principle, therefore, •of the security of the Protesteat succession was erne of exclusion. Every religious sect was it po litical party. He had the highest respect for the Catholic Peas, and Gentry, but he could only consider them as the heads of a political party, • and experience taught him that in such par ties unfortunately the tail always governed the head. This was exemplified in ii Bill which was brought into the other House, which gave tun I satirfaction to the heads of the dissentiug sects, hut the tail wisforthraiely turned upon then, tnd nullified all. liir objection to the Roman Cutholic religion was, that no man could proprrly be snid to be in entire possession of his owu conscience. The Bill proceeded upon the principle that the Protestant succession to the throne was established, but nevertheless it proceeded to endermioe the secu rity on which that principle stood. A Learned Prelate thought that it was extremely illiberal to exclude the Catholics solely on account of their religion; but when all the descendants of James I. {except the Electress of Hanover) were excluded , from the throne, was not the culy ground that they professed the Roman Catholic religion. ' Now the Bill was brought in, which held that null). sion for religious opinions was, according to the expression of true Noble Lord, " abominable," and ought cot to be endured. It was telling the Ring that lie sat upon the throne on u false prinui ple, rattan abominable principle, which ought never to have been adopted. The Bill acknowledged that some security was necessary, and what could be so effectual as those already established, and which was the law of the land, namely, the prin ciple of exclusion ? He thought the Bill, if it.. passed, so far from conciliating, would tend to In crease the irritation which existed ; for it was con trary to the principles of human nature to suppose thatlit would stop there. Lord IlAnaowair said, that yieldi , ig to no nice in uff!ctlon for our Church Establi.lonent, could it be made evident that any danger would result to it from the present measure, he would willingly vote with the Noble Lord (Mansfield) for the second reading on that day six months. The principle of the Bill be took to be this—to grant to the Catholic whatever could he granted with secu rsty to the Protestant. It appeared to hint that atone of their Lordships ought to vote against the second reading of this Bill, sinless they wi re µmisted to bay that nothing should now or at say future time be granted to the Catholics. /Hear, hear, hear.)—Another pontt urged was the intolerant doctrine of the Catholic Church, but at the lime of the union with Scotland, we had to treat with a sect equally iutoleranL During the discus., sion on that measure the Presbyterial.* in Scotland protested against eveo treuiuiig with a count.). where Episcopacy was established; fur fear of . the guilt they should incur. Yet the l'arlisinelit introduced sontreis Peers and forty-five Pirshy teliso Commoners. Did they do so without li.atog an idea of the danger ?—No, for one of the fitiglish Peers who w e re opp ose d t o the measure, dec lared that if he should live to see that union carried, he should have survived the constitution of the • '+•ti 44, II country. Yet eve part of the Government was °petted to the inroads of these Dissenters, and with .bait result had been *ern. . With remit;;et Id the representation :—From all the calculation which had been relidi; not tpnre ., than rout ; teen or Meets Ronnie Catholic Metilhers of the House of Commons 'wonlel be returned, a n d seven Catholic Peers to that I top.e .ait;l could it be thought possible that Parliatueet slatipW be dangerou-ly influenced by.tio small a number It was the first time. that the EIJI %lied come eo strongly recommended,by the other noose of Par liament, and the present was the time that it ought to Isere the sanction of their Lordships, when the ottenpou of tau mystery qr the Giaversunesst use toot diverted front it by time or by domestic &sin, b ailers. If their Lesdithips wefe detonntned slot so give this relief to their Roman Catholic fellow subjects, what hopes could they have of reaeliing that resting-place which all good meg; aspired to The Earl or LiviiiPooL said, if it was poentile that the debate should be concluded on that Mehl, be would Wye Do objection to its being cc/tattered but he was fearful it would not, as many Noble Lords 'ere desirous of expressing their sentiments on the subject; and be considered whether the Bill was or was not carried, that it would be wore wise tertiary to the poi lie that it should be fairiy dis• cowed, far which, reasons he would move that the debate should be •cfjourned until to-morrow (this day), which was agr e ed t o . Their LorslihiPs then adjourned at lIALFPAST TWOLVE O'CLOCK Until to4norrew (this dab). . HOUSE Of:COMMONS, Mosaav, Apiur, 16. , Nov WRIT. • • The Spiiaker eras ordered to issue his writ so she Clerk of She Crown sq stake toss a sew writ fur the &rough of Or ford, In thelseras of J. Douglas, Esq. who bee accepted she ehilseru Isuadreds. PARLIAMENTARY REFORM. Mr. S. WHITRRF.AD presented a Petition from She Frealmlrkrs of als4l.llmerx, is havuor of Parliamentary Re. form.--Read sod laid osi USURY LAWS. Serjeant OPISLOW brvaght iu a Bill (us ilia repeal tloalUsury Lars. ___AIr .. . 6 I2AVENPORT expressed his to 'op- . _.... Mr: Serjeaul.ONSLOW replied. The Bill was then read a first time, and fixed fur the Wood readiest the 7th NAY. ~ fir cr - 'Naitun said he should oppose the Bill in every : stage, and. wished that another day should be •ppostited for 1 reruns, reading. ter some touversalion, the 14th nay was fixed (or the d reasbag. • . ILLICIT DISTILLATION IN IRELAND. Getters! MART., he rising to preient a Petition from the inhabkants of !Deolutgle, in the county of Donegal, said, that ON the ria of jast„Echroarthe had presented a Petition from the itskshirantsOf that comity, statlog the evils arising from the potegorlast relstiveto distillation in Ireland. To that Petition be would again be compelled to evil the at tention of the Haase," unless the Chancellor of the Exche quer should in the ratan lime render it naireepreiary il ln trodocing the Bills which he had promised' to eabolit to the House. Of these Bills he (General Hart) batEinformid the inhabitants of that county, in Immo of glutting their just complaints fur the past, stud their apprehessioas for the future • but be regretted to slate, that the loorteteliy which Ices alr eady taken pile* has caused considerable dieappointe meet to them, and that they again dread the coati:mance of dime oppressive and insphlitte Laws.. That the Pell tioners,.fierliog that they have no defence wept in the ho meetly of Parliament, had resolved on the constit•tioard measure of •petitiouting thatstionse for a redress of their miemsseet, for slick property has been distrained • and sold is the most arbitrary manner, _sad all accounts of iliontale et thesis have beta withlteld,not withstanding repeated orders fur their prodoction. to ;smuttier intuitive to that Horse. Hy beiges' hove to tall tine attention of the British Mem bers to the diastole's's' state Of - the Irish peasantry. To some -op them. he, •Ireasitielt indebted, especially to an Hon. . Gentlessmxpito bad 'cry lately 41111;kd IQ the subject.. The only mews. *Web' appeared to him likely to rersiesly the existiug .titilli.,oll the immediate establishment of small stills, ent sad terend as to loin' distillatiou within Ilse reach ol.tueb persons as possessed small capital, and to enalala the • peasantry Is find a market fur their groin.. He said, that in the remote parts of hellos) there were few roads and. so „Mods, and that it ass therefore impossible for their Is lirstisport to distant maskets, on the barks of horses, Ilse • grain produces! by their little divisions of ground. This grain, be stated, was principally barley: fur. oats casino! be raised on soil manured for the potatoes-of the preceding year, and wheat would be exposed trydeitruction duriag winter, as the small plots of land (which aregenerally divided and subdivided in the progress of a superabundant popula tion) ate . entirely. neteselosed. It bad been mid that drunkenness. would ensue from the proposed men. rue; but if there should be a tendency 10 InitIXICP. tiVII among the lower orders of Irish, it is more likely t o be diminished than increased, by placing ruder proper regulaituns those stills which now produce Mir it spirits, to be told at a clasp rate; sad be could assure the Huns, that due. ing the years when s be was on the Irish Star he had many •p. pur I unities of isles vying the habits of the infector classes, sal siddoss saw any inshore of .inicciestiun. The • pretest system of distillery laws almost placed the Irish peat:awry un der the necessity of practising illicit distillation, nhiels tl they prosecute fur a sustenance at the risk of their Ikea, and during the late famine in that cumuli y it was usual foe women and children to travel some mile, lulu bulls in seat& 'j of fuel for solieetweil aline, that they might barter use spirit. for oatmeal, bailey meal Acing out orio u sly nuoliplep one w h en ' constantly used, and productive of dangerous diseases ' Is addition to the ditiri saes occasioned by these laws sa they sow stood, the distillery revenue was luridly impaired, air& Ishrly to fail entirely, and that this eunsidi ration alone might to holder the House to revise them apeeritly. A lt.ght lion. baronet had lately *averted, that the defalcation of the dis tillery revenue of Irelit;11 hail been ranged by the repeal of the tuvinland fines; but i.e could asikllre. the 'loose, that (I.e repeal War only n tioinvial nue, as OOP! Arses siert levi , il at the .present Inumrnt, and the hoof:rending inhabitants deprived of their property to insy fines incurred by persons of whom they hail Ito know leil4e and over whom they had sin. rostrol. The Hot,. Member concluded by moving that the Petition be priutest The Pattilou eras laid ou Ibe tdde, and ordered to be pritdid. . COURT OF CDANCF.RY AND APPEALS. Mr. M. A. TAYLOR cave notice that he would, on the 30th of 3lay, propose a rneasitre fur alterinit the moue of ashattnatesing justice in the Court of Chancery, and the pro ireediuga on Appeals its the House of Lord,. A variety of returns, relative to the trades of Miles and Suap, were ordered uu the motion of Mr. T. WILSON. WOOL. 111 r. SYKES presented a Prtition from the lit-reliant. en d tletp,lnfteflt of Mill, for the repeal a sh e lee nn b l ue i su ise c iation of Foreign Wool. The Hon. :limber stated, iimt hi e e p i e l un was, that the duty was impolitic in wry teas/W.—Head, laid un the table, and ordered to be printed. PAIII.IAMENTABY REFORM. m e . LAMS toN, in presenting a Pettii from crrlaios inbahitauts of the town of Belfast, p , :tying for a Reform Parliament, observed, that it had been agreed on at a meeting called by r.quenti 0000 0 pursuant to the Art, Hie Mayor leaving refaced to convene one, though gin ly required ihtreiu. The Peiitiumrs ruled. Ittat the ?ruble Lord wpm.. imams their borough nu rtectcd by Ilse Corporation, eon. smiting of 1%, eive swamis, out of it p.,p'ilatipu of 11, was most sotisfartory to him to Isc made the urges/ of lu inc. it% before the House of Commons seutinscuts su -t ..... -.--- .... ....• tional as those expense& I. tie P iii.. yieenieedine from a part of the empire to which England had beeii known during • eery long period only by a system of inisrete and impolilie government. He sine...rely hoped a new course towards that RI-treated country would he now entered ish,,asid as an earnest of the iiiientioes of Parliament to it, he was per ausded that nothing world go sio far towards conciliating that generous and gallant peepla, as the concession of the measure which was to be debated that evening in another inviter. After seem blither description of the cougeoes uf the Petition, he moved that it be brouchrbp. Mr. CHICHESTER said, that the Petition had been got up at a meeting malted to widens the cliteen, in a small Methodist Chapel, and he believed that the gram. of none of (he inhabitants of distinction accuatornecl to take a lead in the town was subscribed to it. Ile had g I reason to know that the respectable part of the community of Belfast, were not favourable to Parlismentirry Reform. Mr. LA MILTON read a paragraph front • fielfest News paper, in opposition to the statement of Mr. Chichester, characterising the meeting a muse orderly sail respectable Use. Mr. CHICHESTER disclaimed reflecting on the Peti. tioners on account of their humble stations. The Petition was then brought up, read, laid on the table, and ordered to be printed. Mr. CALCRA FT postponed a notice which stood for to morrow, till the 911, May. Mr. ELLICE said, he had a Petition to present from the Merchants of London trading in timber to Canada. The Petitioners stated that they annually exported • Inrge quills tity of she commodities of this country thither, and prayed that Nothing might be done by Parliament to interfere with their trade aL it. As the-issue now steed, the core uf Ca nada could not be imported into England, except when that artick bad reached a price of 87 s . aquarter, w hi c h a dd e d t o freight and oth er dednetioue, gave the English grower an advantage of 30r. a quarter over the Canadian in this market. He proposed that the Petition - should be referred to the Committee on Agriculture, and die trusted that it would receive their molt deliberate examination. The farnieri of Canada were nut allowed to export their corn to any other country but ibis by the Navigation Laws, and they were therefore justified in hoping that same means would be devised of enabling them to dispose of their pro duce, and thus to purchase the eoupoodities exported from England. Sir I. COFFIN said that Canada hail cult the country thirty millions, stud that it Lad better beta sunk au the but tons p( the sea. Lord MILTON said that ootwithstanding the absence tsf Ministers, he should beg to know from the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Crouich),. at what time the Report of the Agricultural Committee -slight be expected to he laid before the How. He was anxious that if the inquiry into the extent of the agricultural distress were concluded, that part of the Report should be first brought up He suspected that Rome of tow Gentlemeefrose the other side of the Tweed • had had their minds eulighiened betweele the first and the second agitation of the measure fur the repeal of the malt Julies, by • communication with Isis Majesty's Ministers. (Hear, Aear.)—He suspected that so many who lead itup ported it on Pie first lice-11an.% had been induced to op pose it on the second, thruu;h swine unal-rstairiling with the Government that the Committee should be appointed for the peepoee of conferring some pecoliar advantage on the barley growers of Scotland. • Mr. GOOCH said, that Ow Committee had not yet fermi. noted their labours on any 'point. However reluctant he was to hold out false hopes to the country, he did hope that the Committee would be able to conclude their lebouts soon after the Easter holidays. Mr. MARRYATT said, that the agriculturists of Canada required some protection or other, and Wind that the Pea. Pun would be taken into serious consideration by his Ma jesty's Government. Mr. G. BENNE l'T said, that the object of the ship owners in continuing the deities on limber was to take 400,01i01. nut of the peaces of the people of England every year and pot it into their own. It was surprising that the country gentle ears should be 00 besotted and stupid all nut to resist the attempt. Mr. MARRYATT explained. The Petition was then brought up and read. Mr. ELLICE, after some further observations, moved . they it be referred to the Agricultural Committee. Sir E. KNATCHBULL thought that the refereielf the Petition to elm Cammietee would delay the cualpieliws of the Report without twittering the objects of the Petitioners, the Petition embraced such a variety uf points. Mr. ELLICE said, that the examination of one or two winterises would satisfy the Committee of the justice of the •irlaione, of the Petitioners. 1 The mutien was then agreed to. Oes the Notion of Bir H. PARN ELL, the Holyhead Road Bill watt read the third lime, and after undergoing a few erifling amendment', passed. ATTORNEYS AND SOLICITORS. • • Mr. literjeant ONSLOW moved the serried reading of the Bill fur the regulation of Ationityli and liolleiturs.—Agreed le, and ordered to be committed on the 4th May. DILLS OF EXCHANGE. The Bills of Exchange Rill was read a second time, and fixed for commitment the 4th May. An account of the Sheep arid Lambs' Wool Imported iota England from the Sth April, 1820, to the 8111 April, 1821, was ordered. AUDIT OFFICE. Mr. T. BARING said he undenituoil it was the Inteation of his alajesty'a Ministers that the Gentlemse at the head of the Audit Office should relinquish his situation, and that it was to be given to the son of a .Noble Lord. He entreated the Right lion. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Vaissittart) to con sider Ilia matter maturely heloterlefisltirely resolving ou this arrangement, The office was one of the most Impudent within the patronage of Government, and naoe more strung y required a conjunction of abilities, knowledge, and zeal, iu the person tilling it. He could speak with she more free dom of the Gentleman at present holding the office, be cause he had lord no other iritercourse with him thou in his public rapacity, but he hint had rood means of observing his public chary ter and conduct. Very malignant aspersions had been thrown un him since the rumour to which be had alluded had become curreee ; hut a more bonoureble, seen rate, and intelligent individual he knew nut—(Hear)—nor a more useful public servant. He requested to be reformed whether she rumour he had stated wes founded on truth. The CHANCRLI.OIk of the EXCHEQUER replied, That it was true that Mr. Serjeant Prard had sigiiified his deter mination to resin his 041ce. However, the lion. Baronet (Sir T. Baring) knew that he had always rendered justice to his great omits, Mad it was not is consequence of any pro. (team by the Board of TreAstory that this determination hail been produced With respect to the individual alluded I • to by the lion. Baronet us likely to succeed him, be was nut prepared to say abether the appointment would lake place or riot. TIMBER DUTIES. Mr. WAI.LACE moved the Order of the Day for the Don.e going low Committee on the Report or the Select Committee on the dote* on Timber. Mr. J. P. GRANT rose to move an amendment. There was no preposition rl than that, if by prohibitions se one yule, am! treaties on the other, people were compelled to go to a dearer mai ket instead of a chimp'r for any comma.' ally, the tX.CAS or the purchase of the dean r article was sas muds Olie* tont of the pockets of the million. The country . at prevent lust 000,000/. a ye''r by she restrictive reielatiuoy which prevented it hum linfing timber wbets they could procure it on the ea%ical terms. It ..111 peculiarly, desirable th■t correct priuciples of political tcotionep should not be 'hewed from in this, the first nirnan►e pearefdlag Gum 'lie COI 111 In I I I cc tin Foreign 'h'rade. e ervertl that she object of the Ship-owners in edition he ; thris ciumtion was, tis fuice a greater tiaa.,ily tutu the trade of the ciinatry then it couhl support, instead of !cuing it tlunittisls twill the supply Lvcspie only equal to I the demand, He read extracts trout the evidea-e puree before the Committee to Phew that she gaudily of shipping employed is. the American titular trade over and *hove whit %rota suffice lor the trail, to Ike Baltic, consisted aulely of uld transports. And the only q ue,tion was whether these transports should be kept up. NOM, ompspi u r4l of at amount of the duties, but of the sego lati..us affecting the trade only. Them resulatimm now gave a drawback to Russia of 160,0001. and a bounty to the • ship-owner of 450,604 e mtually. He thonglit that the precept state of the trade was suoie utiraculutie animals°. If the Committee met merely to couciliate adverse claims, lie thought it might have been very well dispensed with. lie viewed the neevore proposed with the greater regret, as it was to be eotteidered as the earnest of whet his Mejtoty's Ministers were dteposell to do in the way of a reformation in the system and regulations of our foreign trade. The lima. Gentleman then described review* dolma mud reguia- Linos which he proposed to substitute in the roam of those recommended in the Report, and concludes! by moving, as an ammo:lomat, the/ the Howie do resolve itself into a Cum. toupee of the whole House to eousider further of the duties on foreign timber. The question baring bees put— Mr. WA LIACE thought that the Hon. Gentlemau hail not laid sufficient grounds lo induce the House either to reconsider the general question, or the particular points to which he had adverted. In originally bringing forward the measure, be (Mr. %I/Aimee) had expected the principal op position from the Colonial interests, and lie had not hero ilisappoiateJ ; but he had received opposition, and suffered animadversions from another quarter where he had least expected it, because he had not gone the full length of the principle of allowing a freedom of trade. He had gone as fur as prudence, permitted, out confining his attention to the costumer only, but extending it to the whole country. His opinions on the subject were still the same as whey s-. the question was introduced to the notice of the house; I he should not therefore enter at any great length into it. He could not, however, think, as had been urged on a fin mer night, that we were to attend merely to the interests of the consumer. His sole object was to ameliorce the trade, and remove in some de g ree the pressure that was felt. The effect of taking the ditties on the cubical contents would be to prevent Russia from participating is the adramages, and giving a monopoly to Norway. It would raise Russian deals from 12/. to 301. while those of Norway would be only 141. Some there were who thought we should not attend to these consideratious, but merely attend to the interests of the consumer. He, however, viewed the question aa it affected the general commercial in terests of the militia. The Right Hunouralsla Gentleman then entered at runtolerable leugth into the arguments of the Hosoursble Gentlemau who pieced, el him (Mr. Grant). He denied that the drawback, as stated by that lion. Gentleman, would amount to 450.000/. If we drew our supplies from the Northern States of Europe, we should pay 900,000/.-400,000/. if which would go into their pockets. On the whole, he was not dieposed to raise the price of Ame. f iCSII timber. It would have die effect of escliidiug the trade from Kathie, and therefore he could not agree to the proposit ion. Mr. W. SMITH said, he should certaiuly support the proposition of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Greet), •libou.th he thought to go into details on such a question as tlus, is as hopeless a cuneern as could nett he attempted; and its what ke should address to the illutthe, he should endeavour to confine himself to general priemples. Then uu order to clear away the rubbish, he would ask, was it wise, merely for the purpose of encouraging the shipping interest (the full importance of which he was free to admit), to send to America for what •e could get at the mouth of the Elbe? Were they to send to Newcastle- fur bricks, merely because we had ships that wanted employment, or send to the Eye, bullet for sugar when we could get it front the West? This he considered a simple stud a plebs illustration of the prin ciples. He therefore thought the wily way to reconcile the difference of upisnou abet existed, was to refer it to a Com mittee up stairs. Mr. MARRYATT thought the arguments of the Gentle• men un the other side at variance with the souudest promo pli sof commercial polo,. Hr thought the course fur us to pursue was to adhere to the strictest thipaitiality, and be di rected slime by the must liberal motives. He cuucludrd by saying that he should support the original motion. Mr. RICARDO said, it was not his intention to detain the Hoare many minutes. He thought the boos offered to Norway very inconsiderable. Nur would any monopoly whatever be greeted to Norway by tone-toilet( to the provost 110a of his Hos. Friend. He had taken the liberty, so a former acetate°, of stating his opinions at some length. These opinions were slot at all chang.d, and be sbonil con eider himself quite nojustthabte in occupying the hole of the House longer. Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS thought the recommendation of his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Wallace), the most inconsiste lit • that could be, but he did not think the proposition of the Hun. Gentlemen opposite (Mr. Grant) would effect the •equtlity it professes. He thought it must desirable the trade should he settled on that basis that "mild produce a free competition. Sir W. DE CRESPIGNY said, that the interests of our (*lentil possessions should he particularly attended to. Mr. GLADSTONE saw no advantage likely to result from the proposition of the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Orntil)e but to lay a duty on foreign deals fur the purpose of giving employment to the sawyers in this country. Mr. BENNETT said, the body of the House hail impro perly and culpably untreated the question to merchants who were mainly interested in the point at issue, and to Gentle men representing large tomes that haJ the shipping interest to attend to. He had nu prep° ion iu favour of Qll4ll country more than another, hut much lees should be give as advantage to Russia, tbe most eantiug &emit ism in Europe,. He believed that Rums and Norway were rosining a race of absurd regulative', hot it was oar duty to show these foolish despotic goverumesits that we knew better thinpsthao to sup. port these ancient ridicnlous Gothic systems. He had heard that the measure proposed by the Right Hon. Gent. wee to be merely temporary. He hoped it would be so, and that it Wined not lot a twelvemonth, fur he thought if the people of England knew their own interests they would petition simian it. The object of it was t oo to serve the colonial interests, but to give an ad vantage to Russia; sod if there was a Goyeruineut in the kaolin world to which the enlightened and liberal people of ugh*sd would wish nut to give an advantage, it is to the base, detestable, casting, hypocritical, blood stained Govern ment of Russia. The Amendment was then put and negatived; the ori ginal motion was then carried; upon which the House went We a Committee. Some clauses were thee added la the 8111, and agreed to. The House having resumed, Mr. WALLACE moved that the Report be received to morrow. Mr. BENNETT objected to the Report being brought up, hut subeequeutly miaowed, on condition of the Bill being read a third time oil Tburad.ry om i t. Mr. BUXTON consented to postpone a Institut of which he had given notice for Wednesday nem, at the suggestion of Mr. B. Bathurst. hIr.HUME gave notice, that on Thursday sett he should mare for an accosts' of the number of Courts Martial at tended by the Judge Advocate-General. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The House then went isle a Committee of Supply. Lord PALMERSTON proposed that a sum nut exceeding 5,6141. be granted to defray the expenses of the Army Medi cal Hoard. Colonel DAVIES mid, that in his mind this departMent was conducted on a most extravagant 'wale, and thotrifore grooved, that a reduction of 1,2001. be made. Lord PALMERSTON said, it would be quite Impossible to conduct the establishment on more moderate trite% nod there was no way of meeting the Hon. and Gallant Member bmg by assertion, the only argument ►e had made use of. Mr. HUME hoped lbe Noble Lord would, in the coarse of the next year, n..lice the number of cleika in that oak*. After a few words 04111 Nli.. SENNETT the motso. was carried. Lord PALMERSTON next tuotierl, that the atm of 10,5141. be panted to defray the sapruars of rennin isohlic offices in Ireland. Mr. HOME said, that in furencr years, when Ireland was is the same 'tat, of perfect peace as now, there was not ono quarter the Staff. To the Medical Stall' in putirelat, he h o g the strongest objections. He had, on a former ireeasion, mated hi. °panto un Oral 103.01. The *shoot Staff in Ireland is greater than sr England, and therefore tic ishould pi otiose that the sum of 7,000/. hi. sul“tituted. Lord PALM ERSTON said, that the Medical Staff had the same duties to performs as ilia Staff in England, sod that au 'atelier iium would sneerer. Sir H. PARN ELL had peas objections to wow eetrowe gaol items iu the Estimate". The present spies wail WOE, o .dir..wßon ~' dinalely expensive, and many of the appointments quite nn• ae....cuutry. M. G. BENNETT sad, that he found the charge for tho medirml staff for Ireland amounted to the enormous sum of 30,11001. He complained that a Coital Surgeon as% {trot no at the sum of 2,t40P. a year. Here was 31 Mouse let Cent mons, the guardian of the peopte, who told us wit silt it... record the. Petitions of the people; we will erosion:lse as the Gentlemen opposite choose—we will swear whst ih. y tell as ! Such a !Romeo( Commons was uu burr a hit s•i , :s to the people, but • curse-- Mr. (MUG DEN ruse to order. Lord MILTON ..harry d that there was a rnsterhl f , retice belwetu what was crating to the feelings of 11,, Hmise soil o breach of order. Mr. BENNETT resumed, and apologised. He tram , ' that the House of Comroons would do its duty, and ohs , ult. a the Government wa s re tioviog clerks of 100 f. .4.ye ar wit ~ f pablic °Chem., they would cut fircet and pass by those wit'. overcrowu salaries. Lord PALMERSTON Misured the lion. Gentleman that th e design of eunsolidatiim the services or anal End. laud had not originated iu tbe debates of this S i could appeal to the (I.l4licrtuArier-General ai. , l the S?ci•= tart' fur Irelsnil, that inquiries to that effect had hist; 111111- toted last year. Mr. HOME obseived, that it appeared the exertions of Gentlemen ou his side of the House had been extremely use fat, for that it now appeared the Nubile Lord and his ri•I• leagues had not proceeded farther than iiiterviou to the commencement of the `Session, whereas they had ilto.e ken driven to practical exertions. Mr. GORDON hoped that the economy would not lie manflsied to one department, but bt extended to other.. Artie an 0 10 •41(vatiuis from Lord PILMERSTON, Cie House divided on the amendment. The number, wsr,:— For the amendment... Against it fel Majority fur the original Resolution.. 54 Oa our retain into the glittery, C. load DAh lEN was esti his lets, comptaining that the charge for medicines, was 5 or 8,000/. more than in 1819; and after several ;I. ' Milks on the 'object inured, es an amendment, that 23,C40j. be granted. Sir R. FERGUSON said, that the Commissioners of 111:-• limey Inquiry bad ascertained that medicines could be pro . - eared at the Apoihecsries' II Ali 18 per cant. cheaper than firms Mr. Gunkr, the Apatheci. - y-General, and that hie stake ought to have been lung since abolished. Nut mu tent with what his Hon. ■ud Gallant Friend had proposed be *humid move that the Resolution be postponed. Cutout DAVIES auJ Sir R. FERGUSON mutually ca ptained. Lord PALMERSTON said, that the office of suppyng the army with medicine• had lire,, held by Mr. Gartner un his death. Two years ago Mr. Clarke, whir was &poly IR, Mr. Gautier, was employed by Guvernmeot to buy medi cines—he did buy the medicines Irons the merchants, tram whom the Apothecaries' Company hernia them.. He pm- Mired fir mediernis and his bills to the Medical Roard, and the C0W1.141.111 . 11re was, lilat the Apothecaries' Il•li low. red the. prices to the public 13 per cent. Mr. Clarke wad a must respectable mad itprialil men. Mr. HUME was surprised to hear that the reduction was an little as 13 p.r resit. when there was a fall w the p, ire 1.1" all drugs orb° per cent. He raumerated several item. wino, required #16101111.1711../6. general FERGUSON disclaimed nny idea of WiSll.l4f t, economise at the price of not allowing good incJicines to the army. Mr. W. SMITH asserted that Mr. Gamier had in SOW! eases charged 40 per cent. more than the fair price of Om drug. He thought that a very considerable reduction isitgLe be made in the quantity of medicines cuosunieJ, and that some postponement would be very desirable. Lord PA LM ERS I ON gave explanations respecting some poini• inquired Into by Mr. Hume. 310. J. P. GRANT said a few words, After which the House divided. On the questions of post primeness mist reduction the numbers were-- F„, tt,e postponement... Against at 11)4 Majority against it.. Fur the reduction of 5,0001. Ayes Noes Majority St A stun of 170,000/. was (lieu proposed far defraying the charge of volunteer cavalry corps for the current year. Mr. Be►usl, Lord Milton, Mr. F. Palmer, Sir W. DP Crespigity, and Mr. Brougham, inquired the reasons shy these corps should hare been recently increased in the counties of Bedford and Westmorland, the town of South ampton, sod ether places. Mr. HUM Elated, that there hail been a progressive its crease ip the charge fur volunteer corps from the last suit • almost every-Tear since the return of peace. Lord PALMERSTON said, that whatever might be the case with regard to. our external relations, this was, iu fact, the first year of internal ■ce sad trammillity. Lard MILTON sald,•kwes ridicalous 4a suppose Hutt a yeouisory coolie outfit to be raised in Bedford ou account of a riot in Glasgow. Sir R. WILSON said, that ateasares might be adopted by Government ■rich would excite the people to rebellion.— (C►ies pf"Order...)—They might take down his wrirds, but ihe would say, that measures might •be adopted by ttleoreeri ment which would resider resistaoce a ditty, and ante and rebellion were the same. Mr. HUME said, that the rebellion in Glasgow bad been produced by the emissaries of Government, and eurnazenir.i with severity on the employment of Edwards, Oliver, and Franklin. Mr. HATHURST vindicated the conduct of Government, and utterly dist Word all crihorxiou hetoeen it sod Prat:him Mr. HUME recited the circumstances at tending the raeipe of Franklin, in ;weof of some sort of connexion betireeu that individual and the Administration. This mica was in pour riaaminstantel, and yet at the same time was circulat ing hanitabills to a entisiderahle amount, in order to promate riot and disorder, for the purpose of ethabling Govesument to call on that House to pass certain Bills. lie must have bees set on by some our, and in his opinion it was no other than the Govcruineut, to whom might be traced Edwards, Cattle.. Oliver, and all the others.—(ekeere.) Mr HIL !LOGE HAYHURST said, that the whole of the statement wet merely suspicion, and eves admitting it were true, It merely amounted to non-actieu, namelY, in o• , • offering areward as expedltiuusly as would have suited tic inelinations of that Host. Gentlemen. Lord MILTON said, the Hight lien. Gentleman (Sdr. Bathers') had entered into a defence of the Home tithe,. es le its cumseelou with Prauklau. Of him be could my no. thing ; bet could the Government aleoy a conuexiou nit!, Oliver ?--(Lond ekeers.) Mr. HATFIC RS I' said, the employment of Oliver for the ',Reposes of Government had PO oeuistaioll wittlever Iry • the question of Franklin. liVith respect to the placard pls.; • tithed at Glatamie he could say nothing. The LORD ADVOCATE acid, that fur the first liar i his life he heard that sight the distorhaures of Glasgoi. attributed to the Government. He spoke in the presence of o Magistrate of Glasgow, sad he said with etwitionioe he defied this elose.i scrutiny into either his own cotridact or Alt of the Government that could be instituted. Sir R. WILBUR explained. Mr. J. P. GRANT said that on person in Seeditand ever Ikeirlinale,l blame on the suhjeet of that placard to hi . Itiakt Hon. and -Lellitfued Prised. Mitt this lie iroadd that he heard from good aothissity, that with a - cry little tentiun those persons might have byes: sisperbyYdyfi ; ”I:,t (nethe r , ke would say, there was luterval evidence lists 1 , 4 card *es mil the matitifirtatre of Soutlactil. Mr. MONTEITH said he could have produeril the sa•:—. of the prima. who wrote, mid the printers is ho ;doom) a, •• placard to queatinu. He therefore thought the M 51110411., was most aitifonniled, and the House us. never m.nc alms. d tams by the charge brought agenda the Government. Me. )ROUGHAM did not noderstsod that his HUI' t tieui t tA, (Mr. i l d i mo unie) had nsh bei d ue ssiade tech, .. xii,u a sloex cii . l s i e ci a llo u o he a char r WWI Forth contesting SO MO Oft SvOrININSO SO sets of 11.111.14.. Hut this he Classy, sod be wasjustilled in so saying, that ars - it _......- • ■