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I il3 Ir. %.• .~, ■ 4 4, ' , he owed his Bishop. The no doubt in the breasts of the Magistrates of the innocence of the altar what minty was to be Accused. (Owen.) But what contradiction could be sufficient for 1111111111111e b ' asked, and n 0 0 were th e, Oats to collect. lie also took care the charge that was made against him—what could repay him for '- to make it known afterwards who were those that paid. Thus it the sufferings' he must have endured in the intermediate time, be was dna the porinen; was not optional, but compulsory; tween the beingitrg forward this accusation and issue—between the • - sod he bbip•blithed tem - name of the roan who reused time he had been denounced by the print as a niftiest tit for trans -10 JO*rye held boo op as a man of undeserving of conthlence— poet/Mon, and the period when the fabrication was ex-oared ?It te peesfidlord hint as oce Dot tit to be associated with by the would Serve to Show the House the dangers to be encountered by a pirewe a reof those attached to dm interests of religion : and man going to trial under such circumstances, when they knew that N Mot be capon him to all . the dangers that Must fol. he (Mr. Goulburn), as well as many others, were led astray by this bee A •deounciatton at this nature. _The priest wets likewise pramible story of the priest's. After some further remarks, the =with ineeroseimm to ascertain Abe number of the con. Right Honourable Gentleman proceeded to say., that so far was this 40 the Rent, doot is, the number of those wile professed persecution carried against this unfortunate man, that this pious "tithe Wog* Association, and who heh im l ;biome:v in and merciful toicister of God declared from his altar, that if he AD, MD mandates 1 nor did the instruesious end here, know the woman to whose daughter the soldier wits 'harried, he • rsarsd kept of the refusals to contribute, (Cries of would compel bee to leave the parish ! Thus was he not satisfied Iheeemehent.) Yea, if any we. dares refuse, whether Catholis or with proclaiming him as a ruffian and a criminal, but would expel PINW/01114 DO matter what the rank of the indoidual be, no his wife from her home, and send her a wanderer about the world. Ilibelor *bat be his oesessity or his distress, his name was sent Here menu he (51r. Goulbuen) had reason to admire the old Isles to tbe Association ; and limber, such was the sjptern of in preteratee to those new ones of the .association—these laws which ' that many of the gentry, though they looked on would visit on the innocent wife and eliddren the unmerited guilt if 'hie ..noba.a. an evil ; .though to their hearts they 'atihor it, the father: its person were found, suppose, roving about the country bill inn obliged to subscribe, such was the abject state of .by night--if the Government had, previous to their prosecution, de. se which thesehgentleman were reduced—cllear, hear) ouunced kiln as guilty—if, after they had failed in convicting him, toribeilirsoodwelo of Abair 'priests to the abject of the denotation, tbey were to wreak their vengeance on his innocent family—what an witalialewo go sober Rem dine altars to denounce them as entitled outay would not be raised by the Honourable Members opposite ? Se mad swamps Ia some casts 'no the vent - femme of the There was another case, which, if he thought they had not already - • And *bat was likely to be the ultimate conreogmett, any he enough, he would rnertion to them—it was.' charge against owlitivinio is baba* watt well know, and surely no one coati be s Policemen, and of somewhat the same nature of that against =ed•the poem the • maintained over their (locks, from the soldier, got up, no doubt, fee the same purposes, and tufty they of granting absolution ; and this power to excite still further the ac rimony of party feeljng. There seseisdbc sin, was exercised either on condition of doing something were many other similar cases which he would also paw over - theyne of their abstaiang from some act for ilia future. What for though the colour of the evil might be heightened by the detail wed & two Houma think when they heard that these men exercised of them, IMO they could not make the danger more apparent Nei y o ffi ces, and used their authority on such occasions ? Ile woul next proceed to notice the Address which had been robe ai e W then say wbodwr ibis Constitution was compulsory or tithed bf m this Association in December last, and which had been by WWoklo7lloo eV dissiblopay ment Wei pot imposed on them ? them promulgated extensively throughout Ireland. It professed Aseedliwoillpilbestiot this soweety, there weri Sante points to which to exercise the influence which they possesseil in giving an sMey~rbitfrorirbiat it frail biat to object ta their giviog I nun th the peasantry agairot Whiteboyism, and against forming 11. o e hohn e s og a gg lai e' e n G u i rpopo r „ lie would not stop to coasid e e legal Societies, which had been, unfortunately, too frequent and Ohara nelfflille in WirnOlnery, with &handsome salary, and numerous in that country. This admonition had origin& eel in w e low •wr be MIS oboareer of. all that pueol here 'he consequence of an alarm basing been crested in the minds of some 41/0.1110011ossa). ostoioopwips tberedisacion on these points; of the more respectable members of the Roman Catholic body be wadi woe quarrel wills tam - for retaining on their side one por- lat the proceedings to which that Association had resorted. It lies erthe Aims, while•thty employed their funds in persecuting arose from an anxiety to meet and dissipate that alarm ; and satriang portion of it. He would pot make any remark on their I how far calculated it was to do so, the House would judge, from mkt with' Cobbett, nor on the diligence with which they dotes the tone and spirit which pervaded it. It toatained the follow s:ideated' his tracts, though he yaw not blind to the evil that might ing passage, one, certainly, of an admonitory nature :—" hire ad mak from it. It was because ' hers were other practices exceeding vise you to refrain totally from all secret sgefeties, from all pri. any of these in evil, he would add, iniquity, but he would quer- rate combinations, front every species of Wheeboyism or nib trl with their interference with ordinary administration of justice. booism. and by whatever other :tame any secret or private ass*. lie was aware, in entering on that topic, that he would be taunted elation." (Hear, hear, from the Opposition.) He then proceed. with as argument drawn from the existence of a Society in this al to state the inducements which should induce the Association country, established foe a purpose of that nature,—he alluded to to abstain from those illegal Associations, which, in the previous the Bridge-street Aseociation, but lie would answer, that though part of the Address they condemned, and which should lead them it was legal in England,—it might not be legal in Ireland, to an observance of the laws. " How many innocent persons though legal here, it might be illegal there. And on this point he have we known to suffer transportation, and how many have we would be ready to niter the Honourable and Learned Gentleman seen stiffer death by reason of Whiteboy crimes." Here they were opposite (Mr. Brougham). He (Mr. Goullruen) would undertake Found, under the pretext of restoring tranquillity, libellitm the r.i show, that though such an Association may be ti: here, it would Government and the administration of justice, by altering and• not be tit there. Front the course now pursued, it was impossible endeavouring to instil into the minds of the people, that several to' base justice from any tribunal. They were not contest with had been transported, and even executed, innocently. The House baring their agents at the higher tribunals; they meddled even in would easily judge of the effect of such an impression being the preliminary proceedings. They sent their agents to die Petty made on the mimes of the people. The writer of this Ad- Sevvions—tcries of Hear, from the Opposition}--and when the party i dress, the leader of that body, was cot insensible of what must be came to trial, there was a certainty that he would have the comet- the impression which it was calculated to create. Neither was he bitors to the Rent his Juror.—{ Cheers)—And now, in the onset, l ignorant of what must be known to every person, who, like hint, there was this distinction between the Catholic and the Bridge. 1 was conversant eith the affairs that related to the administration street Association : to question of felony could-arise to whiet the of justice in that country, that the most sedulous attention war latter could be parties, while there was rot a single case of felony paid by Government to each individual case of the persons who ter misdemeanor with which the other may not be mixed up. Ital. were either sentenced to transportation or execution, and that there ways followed, from the intervention of that body, that the charge was no part of the duties of his station, on which the Lord Lieu was grossly exaggerated when the accused was a Protestant ; and tenant of Ireland bestowed a mere anxious and devoted atten- Otis always was the use when they espoused the cause of the tom- Lion, than the consideration of such cases Ile! Mr. Goulbarno -ptainant. Nor were they satisfied with branding the accused with would appeal to any Member of thirst House, conversant in Irish grimes not committed t they went further ; and cast an additional questions, for the accuracy of his statement, and for the readiness stigma on him, by attributing his conduct to religious acre with which he seized on any reasonable opportunity or excuse that many; and thus every Court became an arena for these min- 'might be afforded for the mitigation of any sentence of severity. signariee from the Association.—(Hear, hear, hear.)—elehis. Nor was the tact that such was his conduct less known to the lead. crates could not meet to consider on the simplest case without being tog members of the Association, than it was to him (Mr. Goul annoyed and perplexed by their ingenious subtleties ; and surely burn), and the other elembers of the Irish Government. After nothing could be more objectionable to men anxious to discharge fleeing thus made this false accusation, they suggested the motives • their duty honestly and disoassionately than such interference, and which should actuate the people to abstain from them illegal eocie in every case, more or I. as, they were subject to this annoyance. So tide "In the name, then, of common sense, which (toads you tar dill this go, that on many occasions Magistrates were known to to seek. foolish courses—by the hate you bear to Orangemen retire from the Courts with disgust. And, with regard to the (Clime from the Ministerial benches). who are your oatund ene higher tribunals, be would state one or two circumstances which miss—(Chem from the Opposition)—by the confidence you enter. would show the evils to which such conduct leads. These facts rain in the Catholic Association, who are your natural and zealous were of a nature to say mare than any statement he (Mr. Goul. friends--by the respect and affection you entertain towards your burn) could make. A letter was received at the Association, clergy, who alone visit with comfort your beds of sickness and dr awing that a murder had been committed on the 12 it of July solitton ; and above all, and infinitely beyond all, in the name of net at•Ballybay, that the murderer was an Orangeman and the religion, and of the living God, we conjure hou,"&c. Now what victim a Catholic. The writer expressed his astonishment that the would the House think of the writer (Mr. 0 Connell) of this, who, Association had not already interfered, and that it should require according to his own statement, had dedicated the Sabbath to the erne stimulus from him. This letter was given to the public long preparation of this address ?—he stated it on his own authority, and befoyethe individual could come to trial. On the motion of T. G. In doing so. he only said that which he was satisfied that Mullen the letter was referred toe Committee, who were to repot gentleman, it' • present, would himself confirm. What would on the cote and say what ought to be done in it. The report re- the House think of such sentiments ? For his part he could commended that the prosecution be conducted, and by the Amocia. conceive none more nestitu I of the pnnciples of Chris-. non, and that measures be adopted to ascertain the ['acts. (Cries dimity, as avowe d by any sect of religion, at any time, in any of hear, hear, from the Opposition.) The Honourable Gentlemen country, than that it should be supposed to be an acceptable office opposite, perhaps, had better reserve their cheers for the conclusion on the Sabbath-day, to ptepare such an address for promulgation, of his(3lr. G.'s) statement. On this report ante Committee, a Mr. in which love of God and hatred of man's neighbour', are proposed Levan 4/41 stmt down to conduct the prosecution. (Hear, hear.) for inducement+ and motives to action in the same.—(Cheers from Thus had the unfortunate prisoner to go to trial with the declared the Ministerial Benches.)—At no antecedent period of the history °Pinion of the wbole Catholic body against him. Before the in. of any Christian faith, was the profession of such a sentiment to be mitigation was determined on it was declared that a murder was found. This was a sentiment too, be it borne in mind, pronto'. committed, that a Catholic was. slain because he was a I '-atholic ; gated throughout the whole country ; and what justice, lie would they pursued their proceedings further ; they got persons to come ark, would Orangemen have to expect front men actuated by se& : as the table, and depose to the most horrible barbarities being cont. a feeling SS such an address was calculated to create in tne mind of rained towards the deceased; that the person accuse,' jumped on a man subject to the influence of those who put it forth ? What Lit throat, broke his ribs—in fact, the recital was enough to doctrine could more directly tend to interfere with the due &dude shock any one ; but would it be believed that two eminent sur. nistration of justice ? and these woe the very persons most ready in goons, men above insinuation, distinctly swore that there was no their complaints of the mode of its administration. This was their mark of violence on the body of the deceased, and that his death doctrine, and on this they were prepared to act. What then wars was occasioned by an accidental fall against a post, which pro. the consequer.cee to be expected front this body, had they the power ducad a rupture of the vertebra of the neck I (Hear, hear.) et execute their intentions, am could they direct the energies of the Thus did this prosecution end In the acquittal, and went even far. people, under their ioduence and authority, to such purposes there for the Judge who presided at the trial, at its conclusion ad. as those to which he had adverted. Another point to which he wan deemed the prisoner to the following effect:—" Samuel Grady, 1 I desirous of calling the attention of the House was, the eircomstasem flu sot think it proper that you should leave the place where you 1 of a copy of this address having been sent to every Priest in km saying now stand, without to you that your conduct in this trans- land, to be read from the altar of' his chapel. and with the requisition action was highly praiseworthy, and that your exertions to preserve to do so by the Catholic Association: he regretted to add, the ?mom ankle you to the respect of every person who values good clergy had generally complied. Ile was Sorry to find Ministers of order." The Learned Judge, after a few farther remarks of this any religion lend themselves to promulgate from their altars, see. nature, 'dismissed the prisoner, declaring all through that there timents such es were to he htundin this Address; but that, as well -ass net the slightest foundation fur the charge brought against as the other acts of the Association, showed the House how they moo (Cheers.) The Right Honourable hkentleman proceeded would direct political power, should they become possessed of it to say, that such interference by the Association was highly Corrupt as thr Members of that House might suppose the Homan t 3 be deprecated ; this he would say, but rot with the de- I Catholic religion in is tenets to be, yet he trusted that the inculea ehostion of the Honourshle Member for 3lielhurst (Mr. John tion of such doctrines as he had dwelt upon was no part of its real omich), who said, that no injury could arise from any interference principles, hat that it rather admonished a different line of conduct. with the administration of justice in Ireland; that, on the contrary, Whatever might he their differences on other points, every one O. was in so bad a state, that any alteration must serve it. (Cheers.) must surely feel that this Association, if left to work its way, would eie (Mr. Gtoulburn) would still continue to prefer the old and esta- produce great evil, and that it would operate as a new excheteent teltshed forms; he would rather here the ordinary course of justice to augment, and exasperate the idreatly uhfortuttate animosities of than the new and extraordinary one now introduced by these Asia I that country. They who were willing to put an end to these eni gmatical. He could not but shudder at die idea that the subscribers ' ntoeities should aid and support him in suspending the further pro. se, the rent should be jurors in all the prosecutions instituted by the ceedmge of this body. In the minds of Government, their pro. Association ; that they should at the same time ba prosecutor:, and I teedings had certainly excited considerable anxiety, and even Judges. Hs would mention another prosecution carried on by alarm ; they had forborne for is long time to suggest a remedy to . them: It was against a soldier of the 25th regiment. The case oc. these evils, but the hobearance of Parliament ceased to be proper, ' timed in January last ; the soldier was charged with seducing the when they saw this Association mourning to itself the privileges people from their allegiance The first account the Association re. of Government, and actually endeavouring to supersede the func cured of it was from a priest; he would beg leave to read a few tiers acid powers of the Executive ; its existence was fraught with Quotas from it. The Right Hon. Gentlentan here read several political danger, its effect on society was the continuance of reli urtracte from the letter, of which the following is a copy : moue contention. Such a body in any country 'met be coniem " Newmarket-on-Fergus, Jan. 3, 1825. plated with fear; in Ireland particularly so, to whose history it was "My deer Sie—You will not be pleased to hear that for some impossible to recur without raking up the painful reccllection if time past I have been confined more than usual, the effect of age the misfortunes that religious animosities had already brought upon sad doithlity ; however, a certain occurrence urges me to make the her. It was with horror that throe scenes were recurred to. following communication. It is this:— but they were fresh in the memory of all, and even in the experience " Stephen Hanley, a private in the 25th, some days ago, having of many who heard him. He (Mr. G.) would beg to call the atten. a pass, came to the 'Otero of O'Brien's Bridge, in this county, non of the House to a society that formerly existed in Ireland—the' met in this diocese. The ruffian having sojourn ed some days at Society of United Irishmen; they set out with a profession that the to tnother.emlaw's, it fortucattly happelled that he associated with object of their institution was Catholic Emancipation, the same as hur loyal men of the town, to whom lie proposed to aduiiaister se. the object row professed by this body ; but from this profession, .a...rous oaths. When asked by one what the nature of the oath as had been confessed by several who had belonged to them, they to be taken was, he answered, to be true to each other, and to kill proceeded to time obJecis of revolution and separation. (Hear, hear.) an soldiers, all Prete:meets, and all Orangemen. But even the United Gish Suuety did not go to exercise the Nat .- lie said he was at confession with Dean O'Shaughnessy, P. p. bons which this Association assumed to itself—it did not eternis ed Ermnia, a few days before Christmas, and that lie (the Dean) eau to procure the transportation of an innocent soldier—they did oliected hjm as a fit person to enlighten the people, and to swear not levy the collection of monies in the manner of this body, nor than in. every word it this the fellow denied; but the witnesses did they adopt many of the other irregular practices which would be wises too reseectable. and filly satisfied the elagistrates as to the found to pervade the proceediage of tnisSociety. What, he ( :Role.) I trot of their testimony. inquired, world be the consequence of this House not interfering at The four he attempted to swear in want directly to the Rey. I all to put an end to these proceedings. It would have the inevitable Ple. let •Cortnac, P.P. we° referred them to Major Houtchier, the effect of raising a similar Society of the oppusite party in self-de cast Mionstrate, who had the ruffian arrested and committed. fence which would assume to itself the same privileges, and ex- Aiwa ain,r a private Sessions met, at which the worthy . and intent. ercise the sameauthoraties, and Parliament would then have to asset Major presided, and what passed at the examinstion des remedy the double evil of two Parlietnotts of opposite interests honour to the head and ueart, and liberality a the worthy Meier. waging a religious warfare. The Catholic nteeociation would send • T his missionary is now in eonfirminent, undo the a taunt a down us counsel to artarshal its evidence against the Orangemen the ilamorates, and is to be tried at the Sessioas, under the le- • (stud Orangemen and Protestant were often taken as sytionimous earrection Act, at Stx-mlle-bridge, on Monday net:. the 10th terms in Itelend) ; the opposite party would send down its counsel s eastern. - So clear • Gee of guilt, and so well proved, lies nth been and marshal its evidence in turn to ar.CllSe or to defend—a upon •as fel committed in any pert of Ireland; but if the Aemciation would be made to the people, and thus 'how arimosities would be - grid not send down a lawyer to attend the trial, it will .end in no. perpetuated and exam erred, which it was their duty, and he was a , rag. It (his fellow is dealt with as he deservhs, and dirccil• sure also their wish, to have buried for ens in ohovion. (Hear, . transported, it must effectually stop the carter of int:end:vides, and hen, from the Opposition). If one were permitted to exist—a • fore mach reelable and mischief. principle not of aggression, but of self-defence, would necessarily " I suppose this couunenication will have been made by other; create the existence of the other. This was the mischief WOO' the too hat it may not, I contrive with difficulty to convey it this day, House was now called upon to put down. However the House ae it woulti not otherwise appear at the Association on Wednes- might differ loon him in the details of the measures which tie. -,i ty, an d of course wotdd be too late for the Sixotailobridge should eubmit for their adomien, he was satisfied at least that all hesomm. ... would .concur with him as to the expediency of adopting some • ° With elegant wishes fat' your health and bayoloess, I have merourest least upon the subject. What was intended to apply to it's home to be most Volt yours, this Aseechition should also of course extend to all societies " J.int EA O'Sri•oonN ZSgY." meairlift e hid: similar objections elan allege! character • could 1:e. I! -: enefeuted he could not cromelve a man, however strung his poll- What, two sears ago, a Bill sae introduced fur the effocauel sup t: 7ais feeim4. were, could be wicked enouch to Waite the letter he preseiun of Secret Societies, a measure which met with the unani bed wow partly resit list what was the object of that letter, sod mous concurrence ut the Noose, Parlienterit legislated on the nero of the story that hoe been gat up? Its sale object Was to blacken tiety of the facts; an equal notoriety of the facto he had now stated ta.s tievernment of the ammo', to fix on it Me charge of ir.9aming existed, and Ors' that notoriety they would•proceea for the suppres. use peoole, mid of exposme the /adios to enmity—obey vitro haO Moin of eti institution of merhogeroue **character. - In some pans komertu beau oe such trionaly terms with the people. Toe ...Oka of the country, lie was haply to say that the Hill which had been i • ...a tlaed at Sit-Aide-I;64*e, and acquitted by a nitof oumeseue introduced ima former jaeion had been productive oP the adva..- I ••• lad Vaspeemble Bench of aigistratet. HAMA than - fatty:three , 'alp., Out were expected to be derieed.from it, .and title not by a I : Amy. atut-occeakin. Mie itlackburp pearichod, of !wham. itoiroa o aseestoo.spy sobterfugefoelpde die - Statute; boo ta many insteaces I n o s noce.istry for him (Mr. Goulrnotn), to:ipeak ; his charlou eras into* sot:hobs WO aireadheemed to exist, and its others meity cf t too WWI mow', to require any comment from him • at the trial the members had taken the oaths of allegiance amesupren see, em: 0 , SV `e de Fr i•Triterl to IperSiiry amid spotredistion was ine4s, se left 901.11/1 ID be looted he the secret path, which was Ile-hoot to In Ilt , 'N., ‘ ii; -, THE 1111ITISH PRESS; illegal by the Statute. II is objection to these societies was, that the) had been bouni by obligations at variance with the spirit of the Constitution; tat objection existed also to the present Society, and he therefore was induced to carry the operation of the Statute further, and extend it to societies whose proceedings were—if not in the same degree a least in not a less great degree—liable to dis approval. At preset he would merely lay the measure before the House; its adopion in detail might furnish matter fur discus sion, but in the expediency and necessity of the measure itself, or some such measure, to anticipated the general concurrence of the House. The objects which he was anxious to embrace in it were these:—The Act wasintended to extend to all societies assuming to act for redress of grievances—of committees of permanent dun- tins—of societies finned to levy or collect money. The measure was further intended to extend to affiliated societies--to societies which corresponded—to those which excluded persons on account of their religious fate( hear, hear), or which were bound by any other oaths than thole sanctioned by the laws of the country. Exceptions would ix made for the exemption of societies from the operation of the Act, which were formed for the purpose of promoting arts aid agriculture, and also charitable associa tions. The mode of proceeding in such cases would be by indictment, so that ice cases of vexatious prosecutions a right of interference might ae reserved for the interference of the At torney-General. Another object of the Bill was to prevent pro. secutions insittuted for party or hostile purposes. Such were tho objects of the Bill, It carrying such objects he would repeat, that he calculated on the general support of the House ; he would call upon then to mark thee disapprobation of the proceedings ot a S I ciety, which enctoached alike on the prerogative of the Crown and the privileges of the people. The evil was • great one, and it re- quilted a manly, determined, and energetic effort to suppress it. On Other occasions they had not been backward to put down wade- ties which they supposed weren't:misted to interrupt the peace and prosperity of the country ; he hoped to ace • similar display of WlB4lOlll and detemanauon on the present. Whatever measures they might resolve upon, he was satisfied would be received by the majority of ilea country with the respect due to the au- .thority of Parhament. In the present measure there was need of promptitutte as well as energy, in ortho that more persons may not, by intermediate delay, be drawn into the vortex of dissension, into winch this and other associations might delude them. Until all societies were put down of a tendency to foment the unfortunate animosities so lung prevalect in Ireland—until the spirit of Tell- giock contention was extinguished—that country would continue torn by those animosities and that contention, and it was in vain to hope that she should enjoy that peace, prosperity, and happiness which they were all so desirous and anxious she should enjoy. (Cheers.) The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving tor leave to bring in a Bill to amend certain Acts relating to unlawful Societies in Ireland. Mr. J. SMITH said, that he was induced to rise thus early In the debate from the interest he took in whatever concerned the in. :crests of Ireland. The House had listened to a long discussion by the Right Hon. Secretary for Ireland, of the enormities and errors of the Catholic Association, and of other Societies, and had intro duced a measure upon a reliance of the details which he submitted to the House. Now he had sat many years in that House, and could nortinbear from the eepression of his surprise. that so un usual a proceeding should be retorted to, as that such a measure as the present should be introduced, on a statement in support of which no evidence was offtred to the House. (Hear, hear.) lie mean no disrespect to hat Right Hon. Gentleman. Ile would as soon rely upon Ins word as on that of any other Honourable Meun. ber ; but he most be excused, if, on a great Parliamentary measure like the present, he was unwilling to place implicit confidence and reliance in him or any individual. W. by did not the Right lion. Gentleman ;ether conic down to the House with proofs and docu ments to support his statement, rather than recount scenes of re ligious contention, the character of which was well known and generally deplored, and rake up old stories of horror of former petiods. Of the period of Ude, the experience of many in that house could hear in niemory the atrocities in the North ot Ireland. That, as well as • subsequent period of the history of Ireland, was marked by the nightly conflagrations of cottages, and by many horrible individual murders--when the cry of " To Hell or Con nate,lit was raised for destruction." It could not be denied that illegal anti secret societies had been productive of much of the nintry of Ireland. About two or three years ago, he presented a petition, which contained the complaint of a grievance of a very aggravated character. The subject of it was an attack made on an individual by twenty or thirty persons, who were Orange. men ; his skull was fractured, and his arm broken. The facts were communicated to him from a quarter on which he couly rely ; these persons were afterwards tried for the offence and acquitted. He apprehended the Jury who acquitted them were Orangemen. A distress warrant was subsequently issued against this individual at the suit of these persons ; the facts of the case were of a flagrant nature, and proved how unequally justice was adnainieteled in Ire land. In this assertion he was eueported by an authority of great weight, the late Lord Chancellor of Ireland (14. Retie:Wale). In the debate on the Insurrection Act in the House of Lords, in the year 1822, that Noble Lord said " that there were two descriptions of law in Ireland—one For the rich, the other for the pour, and that both were ill-administered." (Hear, hear, hear.) In that sentiment he (Mr. S.) owned he fully concurred. A. to the senti ment which inculcated hatred to Millman, the Right Hon. Gen tleman, who had put the point very forcibly to the House, could not more fully disapprove of it than he did. Strong as that ex arcs !ion was, and it was far from his intention to justify it, yet it should he remembered that it was in consequence of many and severe injuries inflicted or, the Catholic body by those against whom it was directed. This was at least some extenuation of it. This distinction should be drawn between those societies which were denominated Orange, and that for which the House was now celled upon to legislate, that in the latter is was not stated that secret oaths were administered, whereas in the former secret oaths were taken which were illegal, and which if not checked and res trained by law, society could not exist in safety. Ile was at • loss to account why • Bill for restraining the Orange Societies had not been introduced at an earlier period than the Seas on before last into Parliament, the more particularly as he had M his posses ion the copy of &document, a letter of Lord Liverpool, disapproving ot such a Society. It was written on the occasion of the death of a private soldier in a remote part of this country, after whose death some papers were leund amongst his things, front which it appar el he was connected with an Orange club that had been formed in the regiment ; the papers were transmitted to the War-office, after which they were forwarded to Lord Liverpool, who wrote a letter to the Commanding Officer, disapproving of the club, and di recting that certain provisions of the:l9.h of George 111. should Le read to the regiment, which subjected a soldier engaging in such an association to seven years' transportation. This disapprobation of the Noble Lord did him honour z but why was not a law to put such societies down extended to Ireland et that period, l& P or why was it teserved for the year 11122 to enact a law for their sup. priesion P They were at the former period troublesome to the cotio try, not in a less degree than they were at the latter, but Govern ment did not interfere for the suppression of the Orange Society until it became to strong and powerlul as to be troublesome to tfienuselves. (Hear, hear.) It was not until after the disturbance at the Dubfin Theatre and another transaction that they were inter. fered with, and an attempt made to put then down. The Right Honourable Secretary expects the putting down of this ASSOCiitIOI) will restore tranquillity and happiness to betted. He thought the same consequence would flow from the Insurrection Act, now he thought that neither of these rimmeures was likelr to he pro ductive of such a result. The Right Honourable Setretary complained of that passage of the Address, which stated that suite persona had been transported who were innocent of crime; he (Mr. Smith) adopted that setiment, for lie had an opportunity of learning from • gentlegian who had • situation there, which guve him an Declaim to know the fact (Archdeacon Scott), that of all the convicts who were transported to New South %Vides, the bitch were the most orderly, and the most disposed to assume habits of peaceful industry. It was on this authority he was dim. posed to give credit to the opinion in the Address, that many were transported who did not deserve such a fate. (Hear.) On the mea sure now introduced lie would reserve himself until he had me re mi nutely considered it in deal. He certainly had not the sanguil e hope of beneficial results from it which the Right lion. Secretary ent.r. wined, nor indeed from any other measure, but thatof gra Ong to •ire Catholics the rights which had been so long withheld from th m. and for the recovery of which they made such naturally anxious efforts. He would be glad to see that toleration which had been conceded to Hanover extended to Ireland. That toleration prevailed too in Canada and in elaryland. Persons of different pereuasions there intermarried ; they asaociated in pursuits of com merce and agriculture • all the purposes of social intercourse were observed and promote d by them ; and this was done—not to the danger or inconvenience—but to the security and happiness of the State: and he would defy the Right Honourable Secretary fur the Home Department, with all his talents, or the University he repre sented, with all its learning, to state a single instance in the history of mankind au which it had been proved by experience that tole's'. hoe was an inconvenience to a station. (Cheers) This was the only mode, in his opinion, of tranquillizing permanently ; this mea sure alone would defeat the machinations and mischiefs of both patsies, and withdraw the envenomed sting which was implanted in the heart of the society of that country. (Hear, hear, hear.) Ile could not but feel very considerable grief and deep concern that the leight Honourable tlentle.nan opposite, who was known as a real friend of the Catholics, should have deemed It proper to countenance and enforce measures the tendency of which went to oppress that very body towards whom he was considered to enter tain such favourable sentiments. He certuinly hoped that, if the Right Honourable Gentleman did mean to check thus Associatioe, it would be done in a manner not to excite a spirit of resentment, or a teeing of despondency that would produce' more disastrous consequences to the peace and welfare of Ireland and also to this country than any proceedings which the Association could pursue, or any steps thafthey should ever contemplate or revolve on. A few evenings ago, the Right Honourable Gentleman made comma • nications to this House which were hi unisou with that line of I etelicy teat was to be expected of his high talents. He had laid before this House papers relating to the course adopted with regard to South Aanteica for which he deserved the best thanks of net country. lie (Mr. J. S.) felt that this subject had no relation to the present qumtiun, but he could not retrain from giv:2l,4 the Right Hon. Geetieman the htglosit credit, nor forbear expresmig to him his sincerest gratitude for the manner in which he accom plished that great and wise ace of policy. because it was done with a most statemmen-liko caution, anti with the matures[ consideration to our national honour a d truest interests. When he (Mr. Smith) reflected on this, of aeon: he felt an additional degree of mortifica tion at the conduct cf the Right Hon. Gentleman on the present occasion. that, while he was thus appearieg to be of a liberal cha racter, in a measure &fleeting our foreign relations, he should be demo ;Mat which would inevitably lead to the further °pot cseion of a porno.: ui our own subjects, and the aggraltation ot those grier. aces which a( re every flay &a-omits:Mg more and more of des co:.;ent I.: till among the Catholics of Ireland. If three were '.4 any thing high in talent, and splendid in accomplishment, it was to be found in the Right Hon. Gentleman ; and we all knew the high attachment which he had to fame and a distinguishing renown, an ambition that was most honourable, and which lie (Mr. J. Smith) always rejoiced to see in a public man. It was the object of such a feeling to seek for opportunities where its proudest aim might be gratified. Here, then, was a fine field for the Right 1109. Gentleman to pursue his favourite object, by giving liberty to the Catholics; and could anything add more to that fame which he had already acquired, than by devoting his splendid talents and commanding influence, to the permanent relief and peace of afflicted Ireland? That moment will one day arrive to him, as it must to all, when we shall have only to take a retrospec tive look at our past actions, and experience from that survey mingled emotions of joy and regret ; at such a time there could not, he conceived, be • sentiment more glorious than what would arise to that Right Hon. Gentleman from dr , rceolleetion of his having given liberty to Ireland, restored peace to that long_ distracted country, and at length meted out impartial justice to his Catholic fellow-subjects. Notwithstanding,then ' the language which that Right Hon. Gentleman had used towards die Catholic A.so. elation, and the measures which he appeared to be at present con. teniplating, he (Mr. John Smith) would not abandon the hope that that Right lion. Gentleman would still achieve this &mama work ; that lie would yet retain those noble principlek which lie bad hitherto espoused, that the great object of Emancipation, so ably advocated by him at former times, would men yet be attained ; he (Mr. Smith) would still cherish the expectation that the Right Hon. Gentleman would lire to realize that design, that he would rescue his country from the disgrace which the present state of Ireland reflected upon it, and that he would have vigour and talent enough to propose and carry to a successful issue so just and proud a consummation, and that he alone, in spite of all opposition, whether in the Cabinet or out of it, would have the honour of "telex that peace and happiness to the Catholics of Ireland which they have for centuries been doomed neither to know or to enjoy. Hs would not trouble the House any further at preset, nor advert to any particular measure that may be embodied in the Bill which the Right lion. Gentleman, the Secretary for Ireland, might bring in; but he should reserve himself to a fixture occasion to express his sentiments with regard to them. He. however, begged to say, that should he find way of the provisions of that Bill salculated to increase the oppressions under which the Catholics of Ireland were at present labouring, he should moat strenuously ospose them at every stage. (Hear, hear, hear.) Mr. ABERCRONIBY said, that the Right Hon. Secretary who made the motion now before the House, had expressed his deep coecern at being obliged to bring tiniward • measure of the nature intended to be embraced by his Bill. Now, with whatever degree of reluctance that Right Hon. Gentleman might have acted in this instance, he (Mr. AbercroMby) could assure him that lie came to this discussion with the greatest possible sorrow and regret. He never had, in the whole collide of his Parliamentary experience, felt more reluctance at approaching any public question than he did the present, because be lilt that we were called upon by this mea sure to enter upon • career the most unwise and unstatesmanlike that could be imagined; that would tend to the aggravation of every evil it was purpuned to remedy, and inevitably sap the very foundation, and destroy altogether the peace of these realms. %Pith. these feelings he should distinctly avow that he could not give his consent to the proposition of the Right lion. Secretary. If it had been to oppose the details of the Bill, he should then not have felt so much anxiety upon the question : but it was against the prin ciple of this Bill that he contended, and which he conceived to be fraught with the most dangerous consequences, both to this coun try and to Ireland. With regard to the Association he would " candidly avow, that it' he were asked whether he felt regret at its existence, he woad answer at once that he did. But the grounds of his regret were not that he conceived it incapable of producing some good to the Catholics of Ireland, but it at the same time • brought into light a series of complaints that ought never to have existed, and made known the grievances of the Catholic people, such as were calculated to excite the moat serious regrets in all who wished well to the peace of their country. The Ageociation, die was aware, was hateful to so i.e gentlemen, because it brought to public view these painful truths, and they would have it sup. pressed that such !'acts might remain unknown ; but be (Mr. A ber cromby) desired the extinction of the Catholic Association, because • its existence bespoke the weakness of the Government—because it stood as a monument of our disgrace and injustice—becau e the , finger of scorn and derision was pointed to us by other nations, when they looked towards Ireland, and because it fixed a stigma upon the wisdom, the character, and the honour of England. It was upon these principles that he regretted the existence of the I Catholic Association, and upon which his wish was formed that it had never beta created. But when he said thie was it an adinis pion of all the R fight lion. Gentleman had raid in respect of that Association, and of the necessity of putting it down by legislative enactments? Certainly not; on the contrary. it was a complete answer to that Hon. Gentleman, that evils did exist which could not be done away by the mere suppression of this Association. (Hear, hear.) lie knew that the Ministers might, by an Act of Par liament, destroy the Catholic Association ' check the expression of their opinions in an open assembly, and deprive them of that last re stains of freedom, the right of breathing forth their complaints ore to another; but he would ask them when they had thus de stroyed the Catholic Association, and had suppressed the leaders of the Catholic bedy from giving utterance to their grievances, would they have destroyed the spirit of that Association ? Would they have dune away with the causes that gave it birth ? (Hear, hear.) , Would they have healed the animosities that existed in that ushappy country ? Most certainly not. Ile would assert again end again, that Emancipation and Emancipation alone was the means by which the spirit of the Catholic Association can be done away. Unless they granted so the people of Ireland emancipation, that spirit would never be extinguished. Ile spoke of the spirit of the Ca tholic Association as the spirit of the Irish people, for such it was. If it was denied that the Catholics were not the people of Ireland, any more than the English Catholic were the people of England, he would request such per-ons to recollect what was the proportion of the Catholic population in that country, and to Consider how much greater was that proportion than that whle.h the Catholics of England bore. On a former occasion, it was old that the same attempt was made to identify the Catholics of Ireland with the people of Ireland, but it did not succeed. But lie (Mr. Aber. cromby) would olnerve, that then the Catholics were grossly illi terate. They were now educated, and generally well-informed. Give the Catlinkes of Ireland education, and knowledge, which is popes, and then they become the Irish people. Now what would be the ulterior effect of the measure recommended by the Right lion. Secretazy ? It would aggravate every existing evil, and sow inore widely the seeds of discontent, dissatisfaction, and disunion among the'Critholic population of Ireland; while the measure he (Mr Abercroniby) recommended was alone calculated to effect any good purpose. Ile would say, emancipate the Catholics of Ireland, give to them the: which in justice beings to them, for he would re peat, they had a right to those concessions, as they were called, that were now woonwitielt held from them, make them your fellowseutijects in reality,as they mein name,extinguieh thosereligioue jealousies that now so fatally agitate them, unite the empire, and consolidate its strength and its power :these are the measures which can insure the peace of Ireland and the safety of the State. It was upon this general vi w of the case that he should be disposed to oppose the sitotipo of die Right Hon. Gentleman. But the Right Hon. Gentleman had indulged in much vituperation against the Catholic Association. He (Mr. Abercrombyj did not stand here to under take the defence of that body, nor to vindicate any of its proceed. logs ; but he should consider it most unworthy of him, and an act totally inconsistent with the principle; he had avowed, if, from fear of any calumny that night be directed against him, or misrepre. sentation given to his inotivee, he were to refrain Irani declaring his real sentiments with regard to the conduct of that body. He hail al ready said that he regretted the existence of the Association, and he had expleined the grounds of that regret, but he now would say that he regarded that existence as the sole consequence of the policy of this country towards Ireland. It had been urged gamiest the Catholics, and urged too with a very considerable degree of earnest nee*, and with s teeling of triumph, that however anxious were some certain few of the Catholics to procure emancipation, yet to the Catholics at large it was very immaterial whether Mr. °Ton nell had a silk gems ti or not, or whether the Earl of Fingal should or should not be eligible to be one of the twenty-eight. lii order to give a complete answer to this taunt they have thus formed them_ selves into an Assoination, the magnitude of which now alarmed their sarcastic opponents. Rut were the Catholics the only per sons who associated together ? Were there no Orangemen in Ireland, who met and advocated principles diametrically opposed to the Catholics, and as dea4eroue to the peace of the country ? He (Nr. Abererumby) would say that this was a point of view necessary to be taken, for it was their duty to tell the people of this country what was the real truth, in mom that they might be able to judge for theineelvis upon this great and momentous ques tion. But were the Orangemen all that associated in Ireland, or all that were opposed to the Catholics of Ireland? It was well knows that they were not. It was known that the Protestants of that country assembled, to cherish in each qther that spint of hatred towards the Catholics, which, ever since the time that Lord Siiirnouth'declared Protestant Asseendancy to he the only tenure by which he held his office, had existed in • great portion of the Pro testant population of that country. It was useless to disguise these hum- Seeing them >clime thus opposed and oppressed ; seeing that the promises made to them at the Union were all broken and for. gotten, and that the speech of Mr. Pitt at that day hail excited hopes only to be disappointed ; seeing that they were no nearer the end of their exertions, nor the attainment of their object, twenty. five year. after the making of that speech, than when it was trade, was at at all wonderful that the Catholics should now lei de sirous of showing what they could theineelves do, in order to make known known thee; complaints, enforce their de. mends kir a restitution of their constitutional rights, Intel exhibit also to their country the talent and knowledge with which ail this could be done? And this they have elaiwn ; but had they shown it in any illegal way ? It hail not beets attempted to prove this : indeed it was well known that they had not done anything to infringe the laws, nor to subject themselves to its denunciation. The conclusion, then. which he (Mr. A.) came to, was, that the Catholics, not having done anything to violate any known law, or to involve the peace of the mastery by any single act of outrage or Injustice; and yet it was upon this perfect knowledge of their peaceable and unimpeachable conduct, that we were called upon to makes law that was not to promote the quiet and prosperity of Ireland, hat to aggravate the evils that now rage among that un happy people, and to increase the muse of those complaints, which it ta the vain and impotent policy of this Government - to attempt to silence by this measure. He abjured such a system. (Hear.) lie abjure! it as being capable of doing incalculable niischiel, not only to the Catholics but to the whole people of Ireland. The Right Hon. Gentleman had said, that he did not regard the union of the two characters of priest and politician as that which was fitted to allay the ferment of Ireland. New lie (Mr. A bercrotaiby) would not hesitate to say, that lie disliked the union of two such dissitrila: characters as much as the Right Hon. tee4dtman did, • , 'or as much as he (Mr. Abereromby) abominated the conduct of • Protestant Bishop embodying in his discourse political doctrines . It was nothing to him that the one lived in • palace, while tho other was an inmate of a hovel. If it was wrong for • Catholic priest to speak from the pulpit or at the confessional, of the hard ships they were enduring, and the political privations they . were suffering, he (Mr. Abercromby) wished to know whether at wait not equal y wrong for the Protestant clergyman? (Hear, hear.) Ile wished to know why we were nut equally to condemn the Pro testant who mixed up with his doctrines the political science of elections? It was not because the one was a Catholic, and the other a Protestant, that we were to regard that wrong in the one which was right and proper in the other. Another topic alluded to by the Right lion. Gentleman, and considerably complained of by him, was that of the Catholic Association interfering with the ad ministration of justice in the country. Upon this subject every gentleman was to form his own opinion ; but he (Mr. Abercramby) thought that he knew of some instance where the Catholic A sscci 'Lion hal done much good in this way in Ireland. And this good had been effected by the Association having t .ught the rich that the poor were entitled to, and could procure justice as well as themselves; this feeling had done much good to the lower class of Irish, and had produced a consideration towards them on the part ol some of the hieher classes that was not previously entertained by them. Ile bad no wish to mention particular instances, but he did say that he had known several cases, where the influence or in.. terferenee of the Catholic Association had accomplished much good. But he was a little alarmed at the cases which the Right lion. Gentleman had brought forward, in which this interference was represanted to be exerted to the purposes of faction, and to the subveraion of justice. Out he (Mr. Abercromby) conceived that the first of these cases was made up with all the malignancy and hatred which some persona were known to entertain towards the Ca:holies. It seemed to be the opinion of the Right lion. tient. that although the Crown was not engaged in the prosecution, yet it was persevered in by the Catholic Association with the greatest eagerness. But that was nut an important part of the case. The circumstance to which he (Mr. Ahercromby) would particularly allude, was one that characterised this complaint against the Association as most ungrounded and frivolous, namely, that the Jury who acquitted the prisoner w re themselves contributors to the Catholic Bent. (Hear, hear.) How perfectly impotent, then, must have been Jr. attempt' of the Association, when such a Jury acquitted the pri soner. Well, That was the other case? Why, it was one which did not touch the Catholic Association at all; but it did seem to affect the Catholic priest, of whom he (Mr. Abercromby) knew nothing more than what the Right Honourable Gentleman had mated, nor of whom did he meal to say anything but under the impression of that ststenient. Assuming, then, that the Right Honourable Gentleman was right, lie (Mr. Aberetomby) did not hesitate to say that he condemned the conduct of that individual as much as the Right Honourable Gentleman himself. But what had all this to do with the Catholic Association ? This individual had an impartial jury, and had an honourable at. quittal ; how, then, was the Catholic Association blameable? fiut what did all dime facts go to show ? He confested it appeared to speak more in favour of the Association than against tlt:m. These were not the consequences of 'the Association, but they re sulted from that abominable, detestable, and accursed policy, which we observed towards Ireland. (Hear, hear.) It was the conse quence of the unjust and wicked policy a Wall we usel against the Catholics; they were the effects rod rot the cause of the Associa tion, and of all those mischiefs which that Association sought to cure. But the cases which had been mentioned by the Right Hon. Gentleman were cases not in which verdicts of guilty but of ac quittal were recorded. Now the persons on these juries were three who contributed to the Catholic Rent. (" No, No," from several Members.) The SPEAKER (u we understood) said that that was not the ease. Mr. ABERCROMBY said, that if what he had stated was not correct,it way an error into which several Gentlemen around him had. equally fallen. He begged to assure the House. that he had no wish to misstate the facts , but if he had been disposed to mine. present, this would be one of the last cases which he should have chosen. But why . select these cases to legislate upon ? Suppose the Catholic Association had interfered, yet what was the result ? the innocent triumphed, the prisoner was acquitted, and the Ca tholic Association went away, ridiculous and defeated ; and, them fore, a Catholic Association thus conducted, must necessari)y fall of itself, and required, not a legislative e : tactment to put down. Then the Bight Hon. Gentleman, and two other flcusoureble 'Members had expressed their very strong disapprobation of a document that had appeared in the newspapers; and he (Mr. Abercromby) was ready to say, that, allowing for the scope which the fervour and animation an Irish composition required, he did not conceive that the publication had any per. vicious tendency. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman then commented on the Address published by the Assooiatton in December lest, and expressed his most decided concurrence in moat of the seetiments expressed in it. He contended, that it did not exhort mean, but to peace. If they were to take the language in its most exageeerated sense, even then the most offensive passage of the document ' where it exhorted the Catholics, by the hatred they bore to thethangemen., to abstain from all violence, that even that could not be cot *trued to an exhortation to war. But, good God ! was this Parliament really come to this condition, that while they had before their eyes the whole causes that led to these yell. gious dissensions and persaeal animosities, that they were to pro.. teed in legislating, in oppoe.hion to every wise and prudent mea sure that would correct and do away with these causes Were they still to proceed in enactments that would only aggravate these dissensions ? If the Catholic As'ociation had not a good ground of complaint, it could not have existed. Tile only proper course was to emancipate them ; but if the Dfinimers would not, these laws would not prevent the grievance: that existed, nor curb the spirit that was ripe. (Hear, bear.) If, however, they would not adopt his wise and salutary course, the Slit way was to let the Catholics done; for if it be true, as the Night Hon. Gentleman says, that the Catholic fleet is collected by etenpuleion, the Rent ' was unquestionably very near its end. (Hear, hist.) And upon this he would bottom his argument, that it souid be the wisest course to leave them alone. If lie were tee moat hostile of the Catholics, he should say, " leave them alone," for it it must either exist from a feeling of enthusiasm, or not at at all—thew have no alternative. If then the Heat be tonpulsory, the enthusiasm is extinct, and the Association must tall. But did he say thatthe Catholic spirit would die ? No, no ;it would not die. He would would say that it would Increase more and more—this very Bill would increase it. (Hear, hear.) This Association had united all pwties. It was one-, perhaps a problem weether the Irish Peerage, gentry, and peaatinty, would hula together ; it was contodered they would not; nut now that point has been clearly and distinctly proved, for they have accomplished that union ; this Association had established the fact. It might be • question whether that union would endure. You say, " no, it shall not," and you come with your Bill to dissolve it. But this Bill will Hot have that ef. feet. The Catholic leaders stand not only well with their own body, but they have the friendship and goodwill of a great portion of the Protestants. If you dissolve the Catholic Associa. tion, they will retire with unshaken and unabated confidence in their leaders; they (the Catholic people) will become more import ant in their own esteem, because they will see that they are so eon. sidered by others, arid they will go on with more steadiness and seal than ever. It had been said that the Catholic Association had done a great deal of harm to the Catholic question ; but he (Mr. Abercromby) did not think so. iVe were told that the Catholic Association had taken the powers of the State into their hands, that they had usurped the privileges of the House of Commons, arid had assumed to themselves rights which no body of people ought to have power to assume. But he would say that he telt that the im. preseioti on the minds of the people was getting stronger upon them every day, that thew. could not go on as they were. '1 he Hon. and Learned Gentleman then pledged himself that he would, through good report and evil report, hold to the Catholic question, and he ueclared that in his man ton tnis was the best season in which that question could be conceded. (Hear, hear, hear.) Sir H. PARNELL rose, but for twine minutes what fell from the Honourable Baronet was inaudible, in consetrence of the noise occasioned by Members leaving the House. H e understood him to say it was Important to observe, that nothing had fallen from the Bight Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Goulbourn) which afforded any evidence for supposing that the Catholc Association was not ides. titledin principle and in feeling with the Catholics of Ireland. The Right Honoutuble Gentleman endeavoured to induce the House to conclude, that the Catholic nobility had been involuntarily driven into an alliance with the Association. He (Sir H. Parnell) had read • later from Lord Kenniare, in which that Noble Lord stated, that the proceedings and principles of the Catholic Associa tion met with his unqualified approbattor. The House had heard general charges and sweeping accusations urg d against the Catho lic Association; but they should coneidsr what were the real prin ciples, what had been the actual conduct of that body. Er parte statements had gone abroad, and had gut hold of public opinion; but nothing could be more extravagant than those statemeeta, nothing more unjust, than the character which was assigned to the Association. It should not be forgo: tee that the Homan Catholics still laboured under grievous restrictions. It ought to be reunite (weed that they had sufftred monstrous irjueies. But what were the objects of the Catholic AsericiAtioo ? Their obj eta were beet explained by • document which they had printed, and which was circulated throughout Ireland. From this document be should state their objects. The first was, to forward petitions to Puha ' meet praying for Catholic emancipation. aid also to forward peti tions praying for the redress of local grievances. The second ob ject was, to procure equal redress tor CA:Dalin and Protestants, and to protect Catholics from the effects of Otimee siolence. The third object of the Catholic Aesocietion was to prevent Orange meet ',ions, and other public displays insulting to the teelings of Cathie. lies. Another object, which might hose li en included in that which lie had named, was to prosecute :Hating:ate* who countenanced those displays of party feeling. There was another and most Im portant object of the Catholte Associatum—to promote education, to print cheep books to distribute unto:4o4 the peasantry, said to assist the Irish ('a--holier in America, by affording them the uwans of relig;ous instruction. Such were the avowed objects of the Ca tholic Assecialen, and they were not idle objects cc pretexts. He understood eleven petitions on different subjects were already pre pared, and ready for presentation. He also understood that they were cotich,.d tit :he 111(1111. respectful Led unexceptiorable language. With respect to the illegal proceedings with which the Aleteeneion was charged, what evidence hall toe flight Honourable Gentleman roduceel ? He (Sir H. Parnell) wishei, to call the uttention of the House to this point, after what hart fallen from the Right lion. Gentleman, who had suppressed the casui in point. The Caihohc Association hail sent lawyers en different ecesatuns to assist in pro secutions, but had these lawvera ettdeas °urea to obstruct the admi nistration of juetice ? On the contrary, in almost every case, they co-operated with the wegietrates, and used all their endeavour, to bring about the CIRO of MUM. Die, lamas had been sent on 0.. e occasion, by the Catholic Association, to assist in the prosecuttoa ~~ \ \ \ I i I Ca ♦I [CI CC