The Statesman. — London, England, 1812-05-11 00:00:00

f 1 i . . 1 '\ I I i• 1 +Ki , I . - S t/ ti 11 : t . ' 3' V . • 'I'IIE STATESMAN. . I 4 f. acrd is the object of any ambition. The great de- side, that the effect had no causei• the probabi- ' Mr. WAITHMAN, after apologising for the i n i.:. ; I1 for it hich you are this day met, which has been ; lity was, that the Reformers were in the r i ght . The quacy of leis-worvlrld ekistße'the'rcreltits ' Wit t si 'nett 1w your hands , and sealed with your 'maid. I Irdn. BainThet wishhil that other Noble Persons which he was impressed, entered into a history of h is on and not devote own progress in the Common Council of Lomlon s ets approbation of the declaration adopted, has would pay some respect to public, ) been the object of my persevering endeahoursfor 20 their attention solely to private happiness—[hear !] giving the Livery credit for having, at all times, been mars—and if 20 years aen that object had been at- —and then the hitherto almost abandoned cause el actuated by a due sense of the importance of Re- • clines], I may venture t o say, th a t w e sho u ld no t .now liberty would be more likely to prosper. The public form; and, at the same time, declaring that, if a ll have been obliged to witness those disgraceful scenes robberies now committed, though according to law, t he smaller Wards who sent Representati ves to t h e acting ire this country to the morti fi cation of all good were much more criminal than private robberies that Common Council were as fairly represented as th a t men-Illeae, !rear']-1 will not detain you by a pro- • were . contrary to law. TI fear, , hear!) . lie de- to which i.e had the honour to belong,—;• l li l i ci i ti , ererroez prevalent distresses , bracing one -fifth of the population , math paying one- 1 fession of principles ascribed to me by the toast you plored as much as any man the have drunk, nor will I call upon you to adhere to those but it would be only aggravating them ; if we falsely fifth of the taxes of the metropolis, pi Menthes ; you have declared it in a manner.which persuaded ourselves that they arose from temporar y l belltatives whom it sent to the Common Council; did requires no exhortation or encouragement fiom me. causes. It had been truly said., that if t h e peop le not send more than Mc° who voted on great questions Nit it is neces.hry that those who fight this cause could look. up to an holiest Parliameet, to controul against the people—instead of a majority. of sev en h s‘ hide' doors should be supported by those without— a dishonest Government, the disturbances which in that body, the country would now have e majo r ity o f lie me hear!]-1 am surrounded by its advocat e s some cases had ended in the loss of life, would never fifty. This was a circumstance of 'the greeter. im- IA r more able than myself; on my right I have an have existed. A great boast Was - made by some of portance when it was considered that the Com ll,ntoured Friend, who no later tha n l as t n i g ht st oo d the purity of public men iu Our own day—he owned mon Council was one of the few bodies in this ton easel, and on my left, by a noble Marquis, to himself of a different opinion, for though peculation! country, who had the right, and almost the only one, s, hem we arc nut less indebted.---I see besides an were not so openly committed, •the corruption was who had in times of danger, evinced .the courage, Honourable Baronet, who on a r e c en t d e bat e on : only directed into another channel. The only way to approach the throne, and state the grievances this question, was acknowledged to have exceeded to secure an hottest Government, was to have an felt by themselves and their fellow subjects. O ne all his former great exertions. (Continued a ppla use .] honest Parliament—arid the true way to keep pub- thing had struck him, as rather extraordinary, in But I need not stop here, for r observe many other lic men honest, was to* make it terrible for them to reading the debate of Friday night, in the Hou se o f Noble and Honourable individuals, equa lly s t r e nuous be knaves. ; [.-Ipplauses.] Without a complete Re- i Commons. Lord Milton, and others, had stated that for the rights of the people, illustrious by birth and form of tho House of Commons, this object could there was no occasion for a chhnge in the represen he bleed; tint o n ly by blood descending, but by never be attained. - . tanon. If this was really so, 1w would wish to ask blood shed upon the scaffold. [Applause!.] Wee ' The Cum RM t, said, he was now about to propose :of Lord Milton, or of those who entertained such cannot then b , .• told after this day, that the people the health of another Gentleman, who had been dis. sentiments as he had expressed, how it happened are without advocates, or the advocates without sup-' tinguished equally as the friend of Parliamentary that the Marquis of Rockingham, whom he pro vort. From the people, we, their representatives, ; Reform, as of the reform of corruption and abuse leased to venerate, and others who thought and actod ought to spring; front the people Ido spring.— •of every kind. The Honourable Gentleman to , with him, had been condemned to spend their whole The origin from whence I rise, I trust I 'weer shall 1 whom he alludeds was the Representative of one of life in obscurity, in consequence of their opposition 1 ferget ; 'knowing, that I have been elected for the i the first counties in this part of the kingdom; and to this very system? It had been stated that great welfare of the people, I shall always look to them; ; the fact, that on a late division, on a question of occasions met with great men and that great men I and though, if I thought differently, I should be un- : corrupting, thee& Members for counties voted against met with great occasions. Thera might be circum- I daunted in declaring it against any impression of the 1 Alinheterse and mita - lice in their support and in that ' stances, undoubtedly, which required great talents; moment, yet to the people 1 must appeal, and be of corruption, afforded a complete answer to all the , hut, pretty generally, in a country* like this, there their judgment I must stand or fall. [Near, hear!] objections of those who presumed to ask the sup- ; were talents, if they could be found out. This P.y the toast you have received, you state that the porters of Parliamentary Reform, if they would wish c oun t ry did a b oun d w i t h men o f great ta l ents, an d 1 /lance Regent has declared th a t th e powers an d pre_ I the rabble to be represented. " It is (said Mr, with men of ability in every department. How then ! rogntives of royalty are placed in his hands for the Weidman) the rabble, and the ra bble on ly, th a t i s did it h appen, b ut f rom t h e present system o f our ! good of the people. We know that the people placed now represented in most places—that vilest of rabble, representation, that we found those men unemploy- that family on the throne :—[Near, hear, hear n....- I which is wholly under the controul of BorouglaPro- ed, whose talents' could be so beneficially eterted i We know that on all occasions the sovereign Prietors l : We do not wish to see the rabble, but the in our behalf, and while they were passed by, that ! appeals to the people, who have never failed to whole property of the country, represented." . lie the'country was suffered to be guided by a set of prove themselves affectionate, grateful, and loyal, to concluded by prop o sing the h e alth o f M r . H rtn d, d r i ve ll ers ! Was he to be told that the representationn loyal sovereigns, for loyalty must be reciprocal, the pe - severing.advocate of Parliamentary fteforn. i 'was not in wanhof reform,. when he looked -back to law being paramount to all.—[Loud cheers.]— This toast being drunk with three times three, and the talents of that great man, Mr. Fox, and - considered The Hon. Gentleman then proceeded to repeat the loud applauies, that from the state of our representation, the country ; • declaration, that the only reward he had sought, or Mr. 13aANn addressed the Meeting. In risingace l was precluded from availing itself a the services of i received, was the approbation of his own conscience, return thanks for the honaer conferred on him byao , that illustrious man during the greater part of his ! and the love of his felloe-subjects. If the nation numerous and respectable a Meeting of the Friends; life ; and,when he was at l e n g th c alled i n , th a t h e was could have looked with con fi dence to a faithful re- to Parliamentary Reform, h e f e lt t he i highest sans.; so-shackled and bound, that many real friends of -; presentation ; to a House that would destroy the faction, assuring them, that he had no so near'. his only lamented thSt lie should have been called , I mischievous machinations of the Government, the his heart, as the success of this great work, mid the in at all ?-olle (Mr. Warthman) wao, perfectly con-; Petitions with which the table of Parliament was redress of public abuses in general. lie would be vieced that there was no substantial- difference among 1, crowded, would never . have been presented ; they bold to say, that if, through the whine range of tit!, those who supported Parliamentary Reform, as to would peaceably have awaited the event, knowing British Empire, the people, would come fotward to: the great principles .on.which it was to, o be accom- i that Reform would not, as had been madly asserted, express their sentiments on this head, there would'not ' plighted, and if once the question were, entertained remedy all past abuses,, hut prevent the accumula. be wanting men, in the House of Commons itself, to ; by the House of Commons, so es to allow it to he tion of evil. Ile acknowledged that he was a party contrinute,hy every exertion.in their power, to the fully entered into, he had no deubt all coettarieties i man—but it was to the party of his country that Ito accomplishment of tho object in view, and their ea- ;of opinion could be easily reconciled. They were attached himself; to that party on which the Throne ertions, he trusted, would, in time, be found not to ' now told that Reform was not wantesl, beceuse there . ought to be erected—for it it Were built on the hearts be in vain. He himself had stood forward, no' far were no petitions in . support of it; : whey, an the of the people, no earthly power could shake it. Ik j therelf than last niglicto lend his feeble, but strenu- other' hand, they did petition, they. were represented! concluded by repeating what had fallen from him in ous support to this measure. ' Ile had, indeed, been as a factiou, which wished to cut up.every •thing by 1 the debate on Friday, that he trusted that among unsuccessful—but he was far from considering this as the root. He called on those who attempted comae those whom he loved, lessee-tut, and honoured, I conclusive of an ultimate failure, if the people would ter-resolutions to those come to by the Common tone would be found to administer the affairs of Go- look to themselves, and would prop the exertions of Council and by the Livery of London, to be on their verennent, unless his Patent of Office being sealed their advocates, in support of their own.and of the guard how they held out to the common enemy' that . 1 by the Crown, was countersigned by the unanimous public cause. It was not his (Mr. Brand's)intention I the great body of the people of this country were dis-. voice of the people.—[Continuethehecriag.] at present to trespass long en the time of the Meeting,. e ff ected! If this were so, in what a situation would Mr. WAITrIMAN next proposed the health of cc Sir but having, fr om th e fi rst moment he was capable of those loyal men fiud themselves ! [Laughter. and 1 Francis Burdett, and may the example of Westmin- forming a judgment on such matters, beina impressed applawses.] The course to be pursued by the friends, ster he followed throughout the kingdom."—[(in. with the same feelings on the subject which actuated to Reform, was to remain at their posts, satisfied bounded applause.] him at present, he hoped he might be forgiven in i that their object would ultimately be attained by a Sir F. Buttemer, when silence had been obtained, stating what those feelings were. He was satisfied • full, free, and unequivocal declaration of their sen observed, that although he had had frequent oppor- i that the only way iu which a Reform in the Come : timents. He hoped it was not necessary for him to ; fannies of meeting. his fellow -countrymen, he had • MODS House of Parliament,advantageous to the coun- 1 ; make any pledgees to what should be his future line seldom doer so with as much pl e a sur e a s on th e p re - t ra , could be obtained, was by the d es t ruc ti on o f tha t of conduct. [Applauses.] Mr. Waithtnanconcludetl I sent occasion ; because looking at tho s e by w h om h e c or r u pt i n fl uence i n t h e nom i nat i on to scats i n that - by proposing the health of Lord Ossulston, the fi rm I was surrounded, he never saw so fair u prospect of House, partly possessed by a corrupt aristocracy, but . mid steady supporter of the Rights of the People— the accomplishment of au object that had long been in a still more pernicious degree enjoyed by melt, . which was drank with acclamatious of applause. his must anxious endeavour. He now saw collected, who, returning with wealth acquired by fraud and I Lord Ossehoros, in returning thanks, took a independent of the Livery, a number of persons of peculation, in a country where no ideas of the free- ! view of the distressed state of the count r y, c o mp ar ed the highest ranks, giving countenance to the greatest dom of the s u bj ec t were entertained, that wealth in ; with what it was at the period of their meeting last of all topics, the cause of all causes, Parliamentary the purchase of rotton boroughs., which having ac-, year. Frightful, however, as our situation was, and Reform. Another beam of limit was shed upon the quired corruptly, they saw no harm in employing for :he was by no means disposed to undervalue it, he prospect by the presence of a Xoble Marquis, whose any object however corrupt—thus were the rights of ; was still inclined to-augur more favourably from the ancestors were endeared t., Et.glishmen, and the ex- Englishmen expo .. , ed to open sale in the market, and i ferment which at present existed, than he should from ertiolis of whose father and lamented brother, in the became th e p rope rt y o f t h e hi g h est bidder! [4lp- ' perceiving th e p eo pl e t o h a ve suck i n t o a s t a te o f aidtious streesele against public abuses, the lion. t plamses.] It was in vain to expect success to any , apathy. From the one we were assured that there Baronet had witnessed with joy. It was always de- exertions that might be made to effect, an alteration ' was still life and spit it in the country; from the lightful to witness the early blossoms of the spring in this order of thins, unless through the constant : other we could only conclude that public spiiit was --those bicems that tile Livery had this day seen and active support of the people. From the people i dead and gone,[Applauses.] display ernln the psrson of the Noble 'Lord, would all rights emanated ;—by the people every exertion I The Cll.lllOl 1N next proposed a health, which, as doubtless produce a harvest no less glorious than that to recover our lost rights, must be supported; and ; this was' a Meeting of the Livery of London, be which had been reaped from the deeds of his ances. with the people all the blame arising from any failure ' ought, probably, tq have noticed sooner—" Mr: tots. []tear, hear, hear!] It was a gre a t saris- in those exertions must rest ! It had struck him (Mr. rAltiorman tombe, and the ludependoat Livery of faction to see persons in tech 'exalted stations despie. Brand) repeatedly, that the present state of the ! Lottelon."L-[.s/pp/ouses.] ... . . log the example ef those who, in rank only equal, House of Commons was calculated to produce little 1 Mr. Alderman Coolie, in retuning thauks # ex treated tliehneople with high diedein, forgetting how to the advantage, a n d much to the di:esti-venter or airessetnln satlifaction lit thinking thet a the cause of much they depended upon them, and into what a I the people. It was the duty of the people to see ; Parliamentary Reform would. never be in .want of useful engine popularity might be converted. Some ; that the First Magistrate did right, were it not that; advocates : In, him the present Meeting should al times it was objected, that the Ref or me r s were , the House of Common s at present stood between , ways find a steady supporter.—.[Leto! plaudits.] . • guilty of some improprieties of conduct,and at others, I them. If the preseut mode was continued, 'the Par- ; The CIIAIUMAN ex reseed his : happiness iu having that they had 110 ipheific plan, expecting foolishly liament might have to registe r th e e di c t s o f the Mi- ;to propose the health's of so many illustrious indi that e measure of such roaguitude could b e intro- ni s te r , or to vote him indemnity ; but the people had viduals who had this day honoured the meeting with deiced that was free from objection,, when all little to expect with ou t reform—as it was a true say- their company. Ile wished to propose the health of. 1 were er:ger to diseuver defects: it was required ins, that this. country never could be undone but by each individual who had so honoured them, be hoped in the first place, that Reformers should bet its Parliament l e—[ine/meted Applause!.] , the nhpoetunity wouhl be afforded him, and that the i p er f ec t, whnli • was difficult, or that they sho u ld Mr. WHITBREAD, though a guest, and undes erve d- ; com p any would not rue away from a cause such SS s upport corr uption, which was impossible. [Re- ly honoured with the approbati on o f th e Meeting, this. He should from L on d on atop for a moment•to p c ia e d Cheers.] They insisted that if a new Portia- I beg ged to propose tothem a toast, in which, howe ver , Middl esex , f or t h e pur p ose of proposing the health tri-r remit e chosen on the new plan, it wo u ld b e no I he knew they would all cordially join. Ile Meant the l of a man who had giten many v o t e s for, and never better than the old one, which they contended was the health of a gentleman whose exertions had been un- one vote against the people.. He proposed the , met th at could eaist. It was di ffi cult to e n c oun t er , ceas i ng i u suppor t o f hi s °wit righls and those of the health of Mr. Ilene and the Independeut Freeholders prophecy, and flaunting as they did, it might be so ; , people—he need hardly name—Mr: ' Waithman.— lof hliddlesex.—Lsneadouses.] 1 thecy were like Cali ' an, in The Tempest, who exalted I Feet') small minorities he had persevered till at length, 1 Mr. Bhhh, in returning thanks, declared that no the drunken Stephaeo hito a God, and o ff ered to kiss Iby unce as i ng exer ti on , h e h a d secured; in the cause thing co u ld b e so fl a t ter i ng t o hi m . as to meet the ap his fout.--[l hue ! cad La,ighter.]-.Whatever might of his fellow citizens, and of the co un t r y, a =join- nrobation . of th os e w h o were launched to the. cause no the opinions of, the prejudiced and interested, th e I ty, not in the Li v e r y ofhLondon alone, but in the of freed o m ; If h e cou ld no t find new w or d s t o ex - Mote Baronet was certain,.that according to the Con- I Common Council, by which, as a matter of right, press his thanks, he hoped no man should be able to entente), the priapic had a right to that whirl% they the citizens and Corporation of Londou had been say that on such a subject he held new sentiments. I stow had not, a full, fair, and free Representation, ' enabled to tell their grieiances to the Sovereign on his [Applaures.] The sentiments which lie had held the and it oat not for es to prophecy that evil would re- Throne ! ' So, he prayed, might Parliamentary He- whole of his life, remained the same. He had all his.' milt from Liirectieg that which the Constitutioh de- form prosper s till sat length it, too, should reach the lifetime been steadily attached to Parliamentary Re. dared to be just and necessary.-{hear nh—Nearly foot of the Throne, and having the concurrence of the form,' s and to the tteform of every abuse which couhi all agreed that the eff e cts o f th e p res ent system were' two houses - of,Pailiament, no one. should be found tend to diminish the influence of the Crown, and to deplorable, and Pet they - disp u ted as to the,causea—! bold enough to venture to appose its complete suc- support the rights of th e people . During the % hole They could assign none that was adequate, while the ; oess. of his political Wes' he had been unifoemly hostile to Reformers produced one that fully accounted for *lll This health being drank with universal and ma4sad that system, valid), if continued, he felt must Od our et ins ; so that mulcts it were proved by the other approbation, . ~ ' .-.„ , , ..• .e. f.).0 •u'atlY lead t4lieluia olf al e EaVire• — •[4l )l4 " l ".] .. • • . . ~. . . - • , a than „iti.....:,.:17:Er:;(1,, Th - e i t l ee C ti ti n A g i l l i: m4 id d ‘ r -l u la( nk i i r7ii v ir t i:re lir t ° ll "" 1' - ' 1 casiou—The health of NI r. Ilutchiti, on , - s !':,,, 1 Friends of Freedom in lrcla. I • "I d - d WI ' liiti A u f f r ii . l lllT cit tmsoN, in a spe).teill',,ci.:.lttiduwLseht:ii:cri'it.ivultisnieii .111.;1.:tr:nr1:1:t:, ed for b t )i ie re i i lo tc l r e a u tV n h o u l t IN i la ~, _theallindheopnztrletnhtem Livery o st r fs e ort t o . l a f 'ile t l e t the fitorsthcisityrei,iiiiitll;:,w4.o,) Tickled ' as . "o. was with his native ciiiititry---41.,,c,,%'.. W;thout a complete and radical Ref:ire t i n p a 1 : ,. ment, he was satisfied, there could he no sa r my f ,i r the people or for the State. Whatexcr he aid allie d l i might do in Parliament in support of the caus e . 1: o ,, I ever, „without the support of the p001,!.'. caoli.iii, and repeatedly given, that cause must fail ; but .t that support was given, it was a cause which u t;. mately, and that at no great diqatico too, m ‘.F.t p o , sail.-I.lpplauses.]-1t had been attemptul ;i l e l !louse of Commons, to run down him and at..,,, who there maintained, and were proud to sa‘, f ;t they sprang from the people; and that it was t tie ;, pride to support the people,—[Applaitical—The ;ie. ger of Providence seemed suspended over this,cuuri. try. They had still in theni.elves, however, the means of making a great, arid he trusted, an eSectual stand - against their foreign opponents—and alai: lin more, against their internal corruption-a ril ; i t trusted the opportunity would not be suffered top:4 by. The li on. Gent. proceeded to express the grate. ful feelings of Ireland for the part taken by tar Li. very and Common Couocil of London, in what ca n , corned her interests; and copcluded, by exs;sAri his cordial assent to, and atliniration of, the Ruh. ments &livered by Mr. Whitbread. The CHAIRMAN then severally proposed, 44 Mr„ Maddoeks, and a speedy end to corrupt traffic f fti , scats in Parliame.d ;" ai.o " Mr. .`...aule, and dip friends of liberty in Scotland," u iii,•:i licre , trunk with considerable applause, when each of the too Gentlemen returned thanks, expressing their attar,;. went to the Cause of Reform. The Clistsi - stasr said he had another toast to pro. pose, which he had probably .on ourpos ) .• A , I t ia ti m o e ha n d_ as to m n eLit r io et n i e t . h l .1• I 0r5,001e,.• till I:ow ; for though tne Gentlemal he was :Ohm to " I ° .i l v ig e i t y l - h' si with o t " ' let t • l - 1 o c s o e in g p u a e a s y t , lie surely was not esteemed the least. Though tie was a young man, he could not say he was oak• in blossom---his exertions in behalf of commercial and political freedom were not new to the Meeting.— " Mr. Brougham, and th.• mist arkled Commerce of the Count ."—[ Ryiterated bursts of applause.] 1---Mrs-ilitc claws said, lie c.oalti not, like some of his - friends; r e fe r b ac k to a list of services and exertions. Iljs .Farliatnentat''y life had short; but as far as it had pr ocer d.'d, h e l oo k e d h ac k w i t i t satisfaction ; and declared, that he bad lima. teie. himself .tithe seppoet of one political measure which had.not„for its object- to..'operate against the over- Wiielnsing power of the Crown, and streugtheii :vat remained of the liberties of the country. It should be the-great object of his ambition to shew how rooted was his enmity to oppression ; and, if life w,s spared him, to distinguish himself among his illustri ous countrymen, who both now, and at former pe. riods, had eudesivoured toltoach the Crown that it had 1 duties to perform which it was apt to forget, and to assist the people in recovering rights wheedled out of them.by flattery, or wrested from them by violence. [Cheers]. lie was in the situation of those who, with no nastservices to appeal to, throw themselves on pro ; times, efl perhaps, were not much to be depend -1 ecLon, especially its a day which had shewa, of pledges only their brittleness, and of promise-: Low apt they were to be broken. Wear I] He should make neither the one nor the other, but would rather ask to be taken on trust. [A laugh.] If lie should be found molitied it) his hatred to oppression, then he would not desire thorn not to drink his health la future, for that would be a favour; but rather to drink the memory of his departed principles.--• [hear, hour!] lie was now addressing what some termed, reproach r a popular meeting; and some might say, that lie was committing the greatest of public abuses, courting popularity. That such lan guage prevailed in a certain assembly, he took to be one of the worst symptoms of the times. Those who used it had, perhaps courted popular favour, hue been rejected ; they had, perhaps, deceived, or were conscious of injuring the people, and there fore the people could never be forgiven by them; but to such men he would take the liberty of gising a. piece of advice or consolation—there was no love lost on either side; and the , " might be assured that the people heartily despised •and - hated the gittle minds who affected to treat theth with.distlain. But after all, there were Laser loves to be , feutsd in the world than the love of popularity. There were ktitrigues to be found more low and vile than intrigues with the people. Ile did not merely tall. of the intrigues in the Houate of Commons, of I .of the-politic/al loves of the _'Minister; but lie would `ask them about intrigues at Court, and when they arrived at Court,. be would put to them whether .therp might not be. baser aad more nauseous loves .than., tile love of the . people.—Lfieur, hear , berte /3 —The modes of attaining their object were . dilferent: the love off`the people could only .be Secured by plans for their benefit,—eumity to all those abuses which the people detest. Tile squeamish alarms of some men on the dangers of po pular influence would soon lose their elti , ct. The cause of Parliamentary Reform 11:01 survived the apostaq of its early friends; it had triumphed it, principle in spite of the opposition of the p o werful men of the last generation, and it would soon Hot only triumph over but utterly sweep away the patty men of the present.—[Much aplause.] The Chairman then propos ,, d, Major Caro' right, the veteran ie the Cauie of before?. Sir oho ordekmortaa, and ote iii ud to Room' tenon/t -out the hillgtillll., qi Wood and e;owity.herp, Lord L.-kine. Mr. Coke, Sir Suit:net Runtilty. aud other Met/Ares with u.sve btxm prevented frail' attrildifig this day 14 i s resioo t , engagements, all of wuich were drunk witii applause. Major Cart wright, :ir J. ftv•ickmortan, Altlerrron Woo i, kr. returned thanks, ai.etishe comp.ely ;Es persetl at a late hour, tly giatidetl with, the feas t of : . oasott, Of which they had so 1-e.11) partaken. LONDON: • Pitattul add Published by D. LOVELL, at l • .aTATOINIX OFVICS, Fleet-street. • - it