The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-06-15 00:00:00

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OP THE COUNTY otr tiessinpten, June it, Gurrhassatt,—The Petition, which yea agree*, eft at Maidstone. last Tomiday, wee preeentod last night to the Noise of Coemitrue; and I am now about to ode dress you oa the debit'. which arose out of it, sad particularly eat of the addition, which I bad the by. moor to propose for your adoptive, and which yea bad the honesty. the eimerity and good faith to adopt.— This addition. it will be recollected. was is tbe tol- I 'wing words 'r had your Polltlemen further, most humbly pray, that " your cloneweable House will he pleased to mese • just ,Mechem of He Nottestal Deht. as seen es you shall have osisspiaseit. • Iteforas of your Honour rte Home." ibis debate isof the very int impormace to the emintry. Is each a ease, it is very diakult for the reporters of mirs•papers to give any thing like a fall account of what poem. The debate occupied nearly about four boars; and that which Is 'averted its the newspapers, as the report of it, does sot take above a Timer of as hour in the readier. Consequently. we kove Ira a mete sketch of it In print. Os there wilt be inserted in Tom STATIC/MAN as full a report ea caw he mad.: out from the materials already iu print and from the memory If • Gentleman who was rreseat at the debate. Yon will observe, too. that the. La.:ties part of the Peer. which makes up a collide" able pietass of it, has gives the thing is as diaadvaa• taVeme a way as possible towards us; that bele/ the ' wish of the caballing factions that hire it and pay it, and which faction now seem to be frightened at the upparent return of good sense to the country. This being lb. care, you are not to look at there. port of the debate which you will and in this Paper. and which report is, as usual with Evening Papers, mode op from the Morning Papers; you ate not to look epos this as a full report by any means; and, therefore, you will not make up your naiads entirely ; as to some parts of it, till you see the failing report . t• •• -")bat cats be obtained. la the meanwhile, it is my kje ,' • • ;duty to offer you some remarks upon it; first, as to eit„.•.# . my menace and that of the Meeting ; and neat, as to the merits of the case itself. In another sad longer ssdr:se to you, which I shall publish in my Register of Saturday sex:, I intend to show, for about the thousandth time, the justice avid the await,' of re ducing the lessees! of the debt. On the present occa sion, therefore, I abaft confine myself, ',stir as relates to this matter. to a few remarks on the miserable ite! ginseng (Wench they ought to be realist) that Ira* " hero made use of in opposition to that part of the Petition of whieL I Lave above spoken. As to the conduct of myself aid of the Meetisg.— Sir BOWAILD KNATCYRULL observed that my character, hi well as my cooduci, was worthy of the reprobative of every bobcat man. He called me " CobLett''„ and. iii one paper. it is said that he supposed he must coil me a Geat'llitan, as I called myself a freeholder of Kent. KmarcuouLL calls himself a Gentleman. I suppose, mud, if that be the case. the only favour I hive to beg of Lim is, that he will sot call me one.— He says that Lord than LIT, no doubt,considered my character aid conduct as worthy the reprobation of every honest man. I have no doubt, that this is not true; hes-ease, if you were to believe this, yir: mist believe, tb4t which is not to be believed, tamely. that Lord DAIIINLICT is both • coward and a hypocrite; for you all heard Wm call me, not only a thutlentha beet so .` Hooonrable Gentlemen ;" and I trust, that his Lordship never has seen, and never will see, any thing io my character or conduct to reader the words *applicable. P But, if the proposition was of that flagitious nature wirier KNATCIIIMILL ascribes to it; if my character sint conduct were such as he describes them, what si•ustion does be place himself in. There was he, in his own county ; • cork epos his owe dunghill; tided by scores of staunch adherents; and there was I, without having a personal knowledge of any six men in the county, offering to a county meeting, h proposition which lie thought so infamous; wad yet he remained as silent as a moms as to the weerita of that proposition, saying stothieg about it. from first to last except as to the mode in which it should be pot by the Sheriff to the Meiling. There was I, standing opposite him; he knew (or else what lie now says is not trne) that I was a person of justly !reprobated character sad c..adect ; be hears me make a proposition to the Meeting ; ho sees the meeting adopt that proposition; be is in the midst of his constitneats; and not one single word does he say abort tint cAorwrter or conduct. But. Ornitiensoo, that would have been saying it to my Aim and KNATCSBULL thought it more manly to lapprese what he thought there, and to say it in the • Howse of Cousins, where lie knew I should net be! If this is being a gentlemen:, 1 hereby give KNATCII - melee, that if be ever call me sae, 1 shall eon. alder It a personal insult. So mesh for hies, and now to Lord CLIFTON, who said that it was impossible to tell how it was that lit. Coaster bad obtained "as 'Wiesen ever the Meet. " leg se as to succeed with his proposition." As his Lordship seems desires, to be lot into a secret beret aid as I saws all disguise, he shall have the sestet.. In the first place. I was an utter stranger. except to about -sic arsons ; iw the next plan, I spoke sot to a !tingle soul before the Meeting with rearm to My lonistioas ; in the next place, I !baked moko!ly to second Of proposition. Whit, the., was this leanest'? It was the islisence of a tooviatim is the Made of the landlords To one • _ *r• ~~~ », / .alt...i. - t er-- ---~ THE STATTNMAN. env toot tax eater.; of the yeernaes, of the rearing foo tam. of the tradesman. mad even of the fur Mestere that weer present, that, midmost a rediteties of the iso wrest of dm oedema debt, they morn enetinite to seller end! they be totally folioed and isrosgist to beggetY.— This was t h e luthienee. 'l'he thoughts and wiekee of the meetinstuters put into words by me, sad no merit do I claim attar so doing ; for that which is domed by every mum, say snag may easily express. Mr. lbseceoast calls the proposition erode. The proposition was amt. to be sure, as hrog u • declaration or a bill I• Chas very; but, if I am to Judge from written melodeon and other documents of the hied that have come free under his hand, be is not a man that woad have bees likely to propose any thing better digested, though I had sot the opportunity of conmattieg it to writing, sod though it was not committed to writing, till on* gentle• men wrote it on a piece of paper which be held es the hack of another gentleman. after I had several dime repeated it to the Meeting. One material thing, of which KISATiSSULL, MS. Hon swoop, and Lotto Cuero.% say not &weed, was this, that the proposition did sot stand open my reesseuseeda don also. Having bees opposed by Lord DA R/ILST, it was supported, sad most able supported, by Ma. Lin XI Xi with whom, let it be observed. toe, I bad bad no opportu nity of conferring, and to whom I was an utter stranger. MR. ilostwooo said, ie the debate, that he dist/rued of the proposition. and that he ensued it at the time. He mast have done this in a very quiet manger; for sot one man in the Meeting beard him atter owe weed epee the subject. Candour, however, ought to have induced him to state that Ida. FOOTS, the mover of the original Petition, actually rose and mooed that my proposition should he :part of that petition; that Ma. DASIBLL. JUN R. rose to second that motion; that Ma. &DIM 140 had seconded the original petitiee, also remand sound ed this motion of Ida. Poore; and you brow well, gen tlemen, that these three gentlemen were all is the sone waggon with MR. HONTWOOD, standing in conspaer with him, be being, in fact, one of their supporters during the day.. Mr. C A LCII A IF? says, that the moieties' could eft have beep taken by asepsis*; that the member* of gao l county were very much to blame ; that if HE had IsoMI there, he should. with very hide trouble. have gives each a taro to the matter, es to COON the meow isf the proposition to be desired by the freeholders present, to "take his Nora. and make the best of his way Wee." Joss CaLcaarr, then art *hat I have always kaolin thee to be ; and, thou representative of the free had indepeudens electors of Wareham, and thee late Clerk of the Ordnance, I hereby tell thee that (to drop the Quaker style), if you will call a county meeting in Kent sod put to that Meeting, a resolution to ressied this that yea call so wicked a proposition. I wilt meet you prerefiree to jam and my real °Oahu is. that it is yen who world here to take year horse sod mobs the beet of your way home, having wily to take ears that year fate was towards the bead, and set towards the tail, of the berm. Now. gentlemen. as to your eondoet et this Boot leg, what cooed be more fair, what metre worthy of Englishmen? Ton will recollect, that stither KX•fCUSOLL nor Lord I) pretended that the ',Serest of the debt was slogs to be paid. They talked shout paying as lug es they rid& and about ceasing to pay et a last extremity.— Eve. now, daring this debate, D ue of them plotted, except the 'nuke,. Joao gauss., p j Calliopes fame and Debility; nobody else pretens that there may not arise a case such as will compel the country to cease to pay. Nay, the prime Minister himself, said, not many mouths ago, is the Ruse of Lord s , that, if a rednetion nitre to be made in the in terest of the debt, it ought to be done ovally sad avowedly, and sot by corrupt and fraudulent went such se that of charging the standard of value. Se that, there is no man, except such men •rns JOll9l Sorra. that pretends, that even so much as pretends, t hat tbe full t be paid; ••d pt they _ conduct •l foolish i• •doptil question is, sad this is the to this pact of the subject. reolttetiOn, or Is there not. that an overwbtlming aseessii question is, SS Mr. WU.r atmeasiry arrived or has ' iv IP What does that mane. aiming with rot who live directly or i not covered with rein : of the rest of the community. It is very ' tree that the Borough-rote, whose families sad depots dente of all sorts ire doing so well, are not covered with ruin ; bat, if - the landlords who do not live or taxes; if the rumen, if the farmers, if the trades men and the labotorem of this country he sot towered with ruin; then this whole nation, Irish as well as British. ought to be destroyed by hr. and brimstone; for sorb a swarm of liars e existed epee the face of the earth. Hut , they are not liars. They are covered with ruin ; soil unless the interest lathe Debt be reduced, the wl.ole of the present race of per eons of property mist he radar-ed to beggary. Never was, as yen well know, so miserable.an at tempt as that which has been made to make the coun try believe that you were taken by surprise ip this In mate, and that exertion on the part of the Whig Lords would have induced you to reject the proposi tion. Lord CLIFTON was " prepared to Awhile that " there was a culpable want of spirit on the Pert of " the leaders." He complains of an unfavourable pis sides that he was in at the meeting. If bin Lordship speak of bodily position, and, if he was ineornesiently siteated 011 the Sheriff's platform, surrounded tit Noble and Rev. friends, and with a handrail before Um, and standing in the front of the Company, how unfavour able most my position have been; pressed half to a jelly, in a waggon, and so closely pressed as being able nith great difficulty to move hand or foot, or to stand upright. Neither does his Lordship do justice to his own father, who not only opposed the proposition, and in two speeches, too, but who said every thing upon the subject that has cow been said in the House of COllllllOl,ll. What spirit, therefore ; what want of spirit was there in the leaders ? Lord Curvoy himself spoke; ►ut, like KNATCIIIIVI.L, only as to de manner of patting the siltation by the Sheriff. The fact is that his Lordship perceived the conf iztica of the Meeting ~ ~~ -~ _:_.,. o~ to be such; their good seem sad their spirit to be mom. as to reader all oppositiom hawk's. Another circumstance of greet importance has ben wholly emitted, namely, that, whew I Pint offered my self to the 'waist. which I did sot ale till every body else had dashed, there were some cries, mid, perhaps. front marmot voices, of M j qf" Now. the aim* who tried "of," .till made part of the semis, sebum the propositioa was pet ; and this it is very mataial to bear in oiled ; for eves these persons, who doehtless dislike me very meek and who would be really to step 6 little out of the way to give me 'mortification ; or, at bat, - to remit tie frets obtaining so very great an honouree that which I musi mmaifestly derive from an mosnimoos vote in faratr of my maim ; use these permits voted for that very motion, coming from a man that they so much disliked, mod to pretreat whom from *peeing his mouth, they bad just before made zealous 'forte, Therefor, geatletnon. let shirkers say what they will t let nee who are blind, and who wish so coiti on. blind, say or think what they will. This was the Jolliness* decision of the county of Kest. Titers were Nobles's, Outlnnen. tairgy and Freeholders ; and though titers were few of die real tato:otitis/ class present. there appeared to be about half a dusen jeer ' aquas& is Fleanel jackets sad paper saps, who were very good reproentatives of tits whole of that class. Ms never seatioaid, is the Heaourable lipase, that ' s the quads. was 'trio put to the Aleetiag. in come• ' ysuee of a seisoodersisaillog, which 16tAICIIRCLI. perceived, or pretended to perceive. to exist. This Is never inentlened; moth less is it mentioned that tbe tint time there we► 3 only sir hands held ap against the peopositlie, sad the sewed time only three. If it had 143 n pet a third time, there would not have been, else. 1 have no time, geotionsen,at present, to ester farther iota the subject. Inn *eve the satisfaction to know that yes have giros an 'sample to the country. I claim no merit is the little that I did. The propositios was macb mere ably supported by Ma. than by myself. I merely pat into words, that whirl' was passing in your Weds. The conduct of the Ministers, open this occasion, has been any thing bat bold. They receive the petition, mind. The Moose olden it to be priors/II aid what is the reason w►ich myLord CASTLIRICASH gives for this? "That he is airless to bare it recorded as an instance " of the feeling of Parliament apes this 'abject, with a "view to ware other counties from disgracing them- 6 mires, by adeptiag the like recommendations to the House." This is certainly as Irish reason, my herd ; for you record the Petition. and you record nothing else. Your joyursals will tell posterity that you receive this propositiow. That you caused it to be printed and put spots your jeans's, Sad as to the rubbielliag publics Boas called debates, who earn a straw shoat them? This is a droll way of discottragiag other comities Asilm following your example. gestlemen. Mr. Put, said that ►e liked the "'lsla-in/iv " of Ma. Convey?, and Sir FRANCIS BURDIrrf. w►o. as well 11111 MR. WiSTellet, spat* oat booestly epos this accession, said that the , Right Honourable Gemini:lo would have a great deal of that plain dealing. which he w mach admired. I shall mochas. for t►e present. by just moth:log the paragraph called the speech of Joan Suers. Ile is reported to hare said that you adopted a safari ass propositise ; that It was a gresyieortilication to him. that they- who prided themeeleas ar t tbsir"lw tegrity aad bassourto sock a degree that they bad apace. liar tttk oa that ace:oust. shoold be the first body I. the kingdom to petitius the House of C 0..... to violate the pablie faith. and commit the greatest act of iojastiee. Fos knew well that you petitioned for a* such thing; bat for a just redastioa of the aatioteal debt: you knew that this charge against you is not true ; and this debate ought to aoseiose you that that which you did redeye& greatly to your bosour ; that if you be the first to give this rsoeraoead•, ntion, yea will be by no means, the list ; and it will convince the mat of the kiowlool. that MEN OF KENT.' is not a mere empty name, bat that. firrt is title, you are also fist, in booesty, sincerity aid public spirit. I am, Oeutlemes. Your faithful Friend, and most °battiest servaot, W. COBASTT. Ssocs-Excitssrsm, I n'esnca.—Consols rentals steady this morning, at 801 for the opeeiegr lied Re duced at 70/ ; and little lowness doing. Fortatos Secuarrtara.—Upwards of 5000 Spanish Sonde were purchased yesterday by first-rate hula-s. and that as well as Chill' Stock are still in demand this morning. In linssia (New) liule doing. All other Foreign Securities maintain their prices. Paris papers, which hay; arrived to the 13th init.; conffrm oar former scconots of the evacuation of Wallachia and Moldavia ►y the Ottoman kenos. — They also furnish us with a copy of the Address vat" h 7 the Chamber of Dep u ties to the Klee of France, which was received by him upon his throat., ea Tnesday last. It is a repetition of the sentioseuts, though sot of the words, of the Actress voted by the Peers. The King's answer is also a mere veraion /ratline which he roamed to the Deputation of the Upper Chamber In the sitting of the II th instant, M. De Vitlele. Mi nister of Finance, presented, as be had promised, the details of the Budget fur 1823. The charges fur the elision services of that year amount to 900.475,5113 and the estimated " Revenue to 909,130.7n3 francs; so that the receipts will exceed the espendi tare by 8,653,280 francs. Notwitlistanding this fa tearable prospect, the Minister thought it necessary to apologise, fur nut baring entered this year upon the gradual redaction of the taxes. T►e wish of deta in off the arrears of debt, had iodated him to post pose that redaction till the enemies year, when he de clared that it should positively take place. The Cham ber ordered that the project of law should be examin ed in the Bureau ea Monday seat. F • FUNDS. June 12.—Five per Cents. ripened at It It 4sc.; Wiliest; 01f. : closed at Int but. Bank Stock. 1.632 f. 54/0. ; I,63ol.—Exchange on London—une mouth, 25f. 41k. ; three swaths, 25f. 20c. Frota the National (V. S.) Gaiety. MiY A friend ha. pet iato our band!, a vaiiety et &mil. America's Gazettes. of the treat dates received is ship .conatry i we col.ect from thee that the internal - onavisisra of La Plata ars will distressed is:milli' feuds, that Nastrvidais and tha Ba s Orismoil are. thigh asked is feat is Brun. 6 as assettled sandithia, sad that the Oevarsawiet liavass Ayres has acquired additional twadsienay, sad is iikely t.• ilowrish wad endure. Th. Brash a Gesettes speak the langnadsl ci►il liberty, dome. act yet at mucosa indepenw. Pri►ate Letters Irma Lisbon shit. that th. Pitts. gesso ti.►erameat had .lend to Spin. 50.11110 um la ease a war should take plain between that Pam and France. The Cortes of Portugal has authorised a Ceessit.er to report theasostat rejoiced for • Saw lowa, Ly which it is sepposed they bars imminent& a New Liss to be raised. TWO Lisboa Mails have artivrd. The Papers are priatipally occupied with a beg disesseios is the I Cortes, as to the policy of *radium est troops to Be j soave of the limbers coatoodiag agaleot it, sad others wishing that forces, to the somber ei Mum or 12.00 ono, should to seat to the South denie s% rimiest, Aiwr two day.' deb•w, the onaties of sespoollag the esprit dos of SW nos to Belk, ass rejected by a msjority of SO to 43• The •aoer•s from Perssosbuco state that provisos to be la a state of by. It gives es treat pleasant to see that the Cowan Body of this tows, ►old a ..cusp yesterday, sad vote• a Petition is favor of the Roans Catheite Bill, ewer before the Masao( Lords.--(Nonieetais Review Jess 14) The proposed measure of laying a duty of !s. per bushel on Salt has created alarms with those w onted with the herring fishery. A Pedtien te the House of COIOOMIS was laid for sigastares in ruins parts of farmostb daring M.iday sad Tuesday, Mon nearly 4000 persons rinsed it. Messrs. Merlin sod Pettiogill were deputed by the Irrsii-Cirren; to tarn op the Petition, which was to be peeseated-ty Mr. Rotobold. On Thursday istoralug a letter was re ceived at Yarmouth from Mr. Rousliald, which states that he bad bad a roaferrace with the Cherwell.* of the Excherpter. sad that little doubt now remained bat that either a drawback wield be allowed ea cared lab for home consumptioe us well as thous for repe tition, or that the tee wow's& be eatirely tabus el the salt used in the fisheries. COURT Or COMMON COWNCIL the Coast ef Comma held yes'erday, a reference wee made to the Committee of City Leas, to consider the meat eligible plea for bolding two Courts instead of env, der ing the Sessions at the Old Bailey, to twofer with the Court of Alderasea, earl report thereon. This sugges tion arose from the vast lacrosse of criminal trials of late years at the ON Bailey Seesions. The Court pre meded to consider the Report of the City Lands Com mittee relative to Newgate market ; aid after some dis cussion it was referred bark for re eessidention._ Joke Oillyatt Booth. Esq. nominated bp the Lord Mayor at the last Girt of Aldermen to serve Ike office of Sueriff for the year eneelisg, has paid hie Sao into the Chamber to be excused oldies the said Olive. TB ZATIMI.—Drary LIDO Their,* closed API the a last sight. sod this evening- the searesee fheatre, in the Hay-market. re-cirres- 'The of tbe eight are fur Use besets of t h e IrielkilbellklMMTP we trust. tb. collection, at '•the Littleness's: ll4 mM • .sewed the custribetions of the larger bosses. s ilk. public will cassettes ' that the 'resin AM Th 414.. Lelf" re-.pea. the Theatrical Poore Mos theft. The piece with which the performances coestesod. is entitled " 'The ItikofFore.or Rapine ',RUA." This Is a farcical , aketeh la °seam wri wee to iatroded the per. formers to the sedienets ors the Tv -epeeist; of the Theatre. A Provincial Manager and a Coestry keeper advertise ender a similar siganftwe ler odoli aid sensate. aid by the ,waggery of a Leedom 11011. lord the emotes are tstrodeced to the Inekeeper tttidie ehaseberinalA, waiters, book-keeper, sad eoieltoott to the manager ; daring ;bit mistakes reselling from this cress arraegemest, each perftreter has a short orate &valuta to display their resportire talents, sad make *kw to the town, and the piece docledes with a very sbeary setae of tie exterior of the Neat Ilaymarluit Theatre, illuminated in honorer of the benefit gives to the suffrage Irish Peasastry, with a partial view of the Opera House and serreseding new buildings. MEAT MARKET. (EXCLU•I rELY /Oa TUC ST ITIVIN Yesterday. a full market of Sheep sad Laillts at S•oithleld; upwards of foarteen thwassod. Tito trod* was very dull fur Matto.: Webers of list. worth 20s. l sway unsold. Good Lambs toll well ; Set. for 219. The tediffareut L. very low pekes. Meet Beef sold at 100 stone for 141. This trade was rery dell.—At Newgate &market, boat weber Mottos a. to 2s. 21. per stone. interest of the Debt can always pretend to look it or !opting the propoal r e Le only qaostio• g et. la thee... t. It is agreed ' ' • seessily may nowt • the ?CRY fai llt not. Arhalig •Paila el or t mean, as beeis-miplilidi P . It tie. It is wevylitim - 4h.t tirose indirectly oa; do taxa are : hot eqvered with the spoils : 4 ".".7111r" - ~-~ ~. 1 SAIPPI.VO INfRLIIO4 X Cs. DIAL. June It—Caw down from the river as/ sailed, the FAO. Morrell, fur George Taws and Colum bia ; ISeilingtoa. Peasley. for St. Vincent's; Andrew Savage, Kirr, for Belfast; Login. Loons, for Gesso; Amity, lifistash. for Branco; ihwo,, Basks, fur Hos annas. The lonotstra have at last mseceedest is gettiag the Isdustris, Westerman, off the Goods-Is Sand; Avis brought up close to it. being nearly calm. PoSTEMOUTIII. JUN. 14.—SAiled his Majesty's ships Rawer for Newfossidland.—Wind B. Vi.rsiouvia, Julia 13.—tl ff this pun Ulf Sr William Curtis. from ibis Mediterranean. FALMOUTH. June I3.—Arriwe4 this Amorial skip Co romandel, from Gibraltar and Charleston. fee Wind E. is S.E. KAMSHATIL Jung It —The Industrie, Westermas. reported to be got off the Goodwin Sand. was moos after becalmed, cad 'again took the ground, sad from the little wind, she could nut iss estrinatal ibis mare iog. It is cosfidestly elyeetwd Ms will lw got cl" r this evening, iftbs breeze enntininss. rr SPORT/.MO IN Th:l. GUILDFORD RACES,—TntmotsaY, Juan If. Maideo Plato of WI. for et ages. Goats, two wiles. Dole of Itiehatood's It.oter. 4 )rs old .. 1 I Mr. Gibbons's Cape let. mid two others .tamed. The Sweepstakes of Sis nett. with viegs 6404 did not &IL lIIIDAV. Ideenbers* Plato. for all egos. Moto, two inlkon. Mr. lltraltbwoite's 4 'ordroio I I Mr. Itroon's Morksamon i . fil Mr. Moron's glom S dr Mr. Howard's illoioror r TM Rears how* born idtonother very taiiirervet ,, Lawton : Edited. Printed, and PeWished at the Olaf( " TYa STATESSAII" sad '• The COSI1TIIVT1011" (*olec' Paper.) No. Mr. Strand. by R. WARDELL, LL.P. ' 0 whoa alt earnmanieat!ons, Order', Ike. are relaesteJ 4o be addressed. , .0 , ''''',N .T 4 - r ~1 .~