The Statesman. — London, England, 1813-05-15 00:00:00

.--, 1 I A 11 4 '~u Gazette, a sappokillia Yuri was quits - mid be given to that part of the Noble Lord's ob servations, because the fact was, that the certainty of war was by no means obvious at that time, bet that, on the contrary, expertatimis of an amicable compromise were very generally entertained. These expectations had been disappointed—the old causes of difference were removed, and the maintenance of our most essential maritime rights was the ob ject which we had Bow to contemplate and to ac complish. The Noble Lord had then proceeded to state that sufficient preparations were not made for the purpcsa of ,eetyying on the war with the vigour due to our character, and necessary to our success. -___ The argument of the Noble LO - rd might beicsolieti ' should into this position, that * force might- to beet; been belie" sent to the American seas sufficient to blockade ' par all their ports, to capture all their ships of war, and r to destroy all their extorted trade. T hese p remises , 'ought that he disputed, and was ready to maintain th at th e ' I, . having of true and rational object of policy was to keep the struction, of vessels of a small draft - water, American navy in check, and to injure her trade ' the plan he bad himself produced, and which had to the greatest possible extent. The scheme of the perfectly sacceed i ed, according to the reports of Nettle Earl, he should be supported by every officer ' nasal officers themselves, men albeit not easily ii 'the navy in saying, was tilted) . impracticable.— ' beaten out of their routine. It bad been proved, With respect to the ?hooker* of force on the coast that those vessels could be made equal in force to of America, this depended not merely on particular ! a 74, with aquarter of the expense, and of the heavy views of pito, but no consideration , of practical& I timbers, wild be worked with equal facility. He lily. The fact was, that it was impossible suddenly conildered that discovery as equal in importance to to augment the naval force on teat station, without . that of gunpowder itself, for the first maritime reducing the blockading squadrons in the North Seas I power who should reduce it into practice. Tile and the Mediterranean. The enemy had, however, I Noble Lord then went into a variety of details, of late, added greatly to the strength and number ' respecting his new-invented vessel, in which want of their fleets, and the consequence was, that instead 'of room prevents us from folloiti s r. At of diminishing, we were called upon to Increase, our I ter which h e adverted to a Mo tif (*Cum. bloAtading squadrons. In Toulon, twenty sail of i stances, from' which he deduced proofs of the inex the line were constantly exercising, a force larger perience of our naval commanders, endear their ig than that which was employed in watching it. The norance of those principles of naval architecture North Sea fleets had already reached their station which were essential to the existence of our navy. when the war commenced, and no subtraction could Ills Lordship next alluded to the improper _er be therefore made from them for another desti ne- in which timber was converted to nautical pu t s, Lion. The only ground which remained to the and as a proof of the ill consequences of su e. Noble Lord on which to build his motion for en- I I ceedings, read a report from a Captain of some ex (laity was, that certain captures had been made by . perience, from which it appeared, that of the first our enemies ; and would their Lordships consider i class of ships of war, no less than 85 were at the that as a sufficient inducement to go into a' present moment either rotten or rotting. These Committee? The squadron which sailed from the' scandalous abuses, he said, were owing to the gross Chesapeake at the moment when war was pro- inattention of the Admiralty, and called loudly for claimed, had no intention of meeting our fleet, its Il redress. The Noble Lord then proceeded to advert object wns to intercept the West India merchant- to other abuses, and stated a variety of instances in men—Ulcer, hear!]—and it followed the Jamaica ' which the naval service might be improved. In con convoy until the ship which protected it, chased elusion, be declared himself in favour of the pro them, and deprived them of their intended prize. posed Committee. • The Guerriere parted company from the squadron The Earl of GALLOWAY lamented that more l to which-she was attached in a gale of wind, and vigorous measu r es h ad not been ado p ted b y Go- ! because she was captured after t gallant action by eernment towards the American's, when they first I a superior force, the Noble Lord, upon these cis- • evinced a hostile disposition to wards t h is countr y .— cumstances, founded an accusation against the con- From the jealousy which he kne w to exist amongst ! duct of the Board of Admiralty. Could this have i them towards the prosperity of England, and which.' been prevented had the fleet on the America station ' had rankled in their bosoms, ever since the separa been ten times greater than it was ? There was no 4. tion of the two countries, he was ciiiifident there , Officer in the Navy, high or low, with whom be had was no probibility of conciliation ; and therefore ever conversed who would not give his testimony to it was, that he thought it would have been better,' the impossibility of blockading the Amet inn ports had they in the first instance felt the power and vi at all seasons of the year. The Noble Lord had goer of the British nation. With respect to the talked of the adequacy of five sail of the line and a 'victories which had been obtained in some in- fewleigrites to weever this purpose. He should be stances by the Americans over our frigates; Le said happy to see the Admiral who would undertake to these were circumstances which, in . his opinion, carry this notion into execution. The theory of did not, in the slightest degree tend to diminish the shutting up the American privateers, and hermeti- : lustre of our naval character. Whatever superiority cally sealing the whole coast of the United States, i the Americans had obtained was wholly attributable was chimerical in the extreme. Had an additional Ito the description of their frigates, which were con force, tile greatest which might be spared, been sent , sideribly larger than ours, better equipped, manned to that station, as the Noble Lord now desired; 1 entirely '&ll4:Wen seamen, and, in every sense of: whilst the question of peace and war was stilt the weed; more eligible. The American frigates' pending, would it not have been interpreted into a 'were 1;500 tons burthen, . when the largest of ours hostile disposition on the part of the British Govern-S was net more thin 1010 eie I,IOQ. His Lordship i -meet, and as neither more nor less practically than : then suggesited the expediency of similar vessels ; constituting the Admiral on those seas the real ar- s being constructed for the British service, and with biter of that important issue? [Loud cries of hear, these properly manned, he had not the slightest' hear, hear !] But. such was the complaint of doubt that the British naval character would be ' those who at that time were eterting all their elo- maintained with the same energy which had ever quence and arguments to prbve it to be the duty marked its career. ' His Lordship next suggested a I and the policy of Government to adopt • every . variety of improvements in the condition of o ur sea means, and cultivate every disposition, which cookf men—and contended, if such improiements were tend to bring about a pacific termination.—[Hear !] made, they would tend to prevent the seduction of The remarks which had been made as to the defects our seamen to the American, or any other service.--' in the construction of our ships of war, and the 'ln conclusion, he observed, he would not vote for I, supposed necessity there had been for assimilating `the proposed Committee; conceiving, as he did, that ! our own vessels to those of our enemy, he must be ! his Majesty's Ministers had acted from conscientious ' permitted to say, that if the object of such a pro- : motives. , . ceeding was the annihilation of the American navy, Lord MELVILLE explained. it could not have been enough with the view of in- Earl GREY said, that many things had been , taring its accomplishment to build vessels of this stated of importance, but not closely connected with ' new description equal•in number to those of the the question; though it was true there was great 1 enemy; but we must have gone to the extent of ' reason for complaint, and even some censure re-' sending them to every quarter of the globe. There specting the constriction of ships, in which it was was another class of ships, however, which, in the : well know ii that great amendments might be made, as opinion, be believed, of almost all good judges, were, the National Revision Commissioners stated, hat far better suited to the service—he meant our tie- those to whose hands the construction was entrusted, venty-fours. This was the sort of force that, in his . were ignorant of the principles of the science. He '1 estimation, was far more applicable than to build an hoped from whit ,the Noble Viscount said, that' i entirely new class of vessels, even laying aside this some_thing would be done, though the signs of a t e not unimportant consideration of expense. With ' were not clear. A late order of the Admiraltymii respect to what had fallen nom the Noble Lord as a latneetabigew * *,of 414 as ittheeeted the' 'U, to the expediency of diminishing - the midair of' Otii! . liik of a number a sloops of .war,(which he' 'end:, small vessels , he should be content to refer that poklit:nerated), *herein the breadth and ,length of theei'l, to Naval O ffi cers, who, he apprehended, would not were quite desprosiortiatte. As to Mr. Fulton his be found to agree with the opinion of the Noble' argument with Mr. Ind tad Lordiffeiville came un- Earl. As to the number of captures made by the de'r his (Did grey's) 'Mew . , wheh at the Admiralty; Americans, if a balance were struck , the advantage ' and' took creftilt to hifeself for a' comparison : Ile would be found, perhaps, to be in our favour. There whit' h he saied the public money, though if he ad was one test, however, as to : the operation of the tholight'the Objittdiarablc, he should have hio war on our trade, which the Noble Earl had not *theughtlMOsiiirittg. 'Every examinetion'and o'gri r mention ' ed, although undoubtedly in the qk Fut' ship' c 0.... his comprehensive research oponthis sue: le sesorted to it; he meant the rate of insurani rate Was at present not more than one higher than it was twelve months ago.—h, s —Letters of marque were issued with , promptitude as was consistent with the prit of national justice and the' objects of lee __. '- Lord had indeed adopted -t, and essamink that Canada had beets lead, naval force ippoiuted 'to must have been itiedeile recognise the eloquence of edmitting the premises, . - titmice withirents,f by the 'twiny, su*sed instil Lord seemed be achieved re ,— ( l l:r Y it i n ' a f r"'"t he e.ature of three o ß f ri N t m ii . a . o l is i r t i t . sitt . ,r I s ; Y and tnmake all the world awn _of our failures , e ast a even in the SOuth Seas ' the same results happened , by three American frigates; sul l it was I" . 114 . 51 e 7 think I i c t7i 9 s7S - Uti w he should Winn the Noble Earl t 6 mipport the rite. that it ought to have Keen 11,1 duty tion. If nothing beyond what he ha ll heard could have foreseen the wale and to have provided e e in sti o pLo g f u t a h r e le i r ine to trz o t ( h b ; be said in defence of Administration„then heavould every exigency. ItWitiitihsterressdpiv not t e n : say, he never knew so lamentable a proof of mitt- ment of the war, conduct, so degrading an avowal of cncapacity.- 7 prudent to withdraw th e (Hear,' hear!] --In the state of negotiations last blockade of the year, Gorernefent oug , ltt to have been provided for them in the blockade of parts in attothe ' r; and wi'h w ma et et r o any prevent cer their unsuccessful termination. They, from the regard to the capture of the three frigates, lie would language they held l eought, above all others, to have put it to the candour of theifobueseen d , whether foreseen the exiseecy. They resisted the repeal of Min arrangements could hate the Orders la Ceencil„ Which were at last extorted these !oases happonine p as,they had, in very distant from - them, II egidepeegt th e kar of Parliament • parts? One was take; off th ey Western isles; another but unfortuittely l such Was the state of the dig . ltn the Brazils ana the h a d. toe s e pp„,., 0 4 sion, that the repeal of the Orders wont out to Ame. from a line of battle ship, when they were both on rica, accompanied with evidence which tended (ft a etuise. There *as in reality no foresight , no pre shew our weakness, and thereby encouraged the,• caution, which could prevent such losses. He ad- Americans in demanding what we could on no te.• vetted to the negotiation with America; vindicated count consent to relinquish. Ministeks. might say, the, means adopted to render it efficient; and centeud. they expected peace, but any schoolboy could hate ed that Ministeri had he;lected no opportunity either told them, that on their own principles, they should during or after the •,• negoriatiou, which stees.caleu also, at the same time, have been prepared for war. lated to ma i ntain the honour, dignity, and best ia -Uleer !1 —They said now, that it was not the' terests of She country. . Orders in Council, but a hostile disposition in Ame- Lord GRPNVILLP. pointed out the necessity rice, and a desire for an alliance with France, which which had been imposed on Government to have a caused war, for the destruction of the maritime larger force to meet the Americans. The Noble Vis. rights ou which our independence as a nation rested; count seemed to think it absurd,. that while we were but that could not help them in their defence to the offering peace to the Americans, we should at the charge of being unprepared. lie would put it to same time be preparing—what ? the means of reAst. their Lordships, whether it was not most extriordi:. ante, if the terms of peace should .be refused. This narily unaccountable; and a. presumption of crimi- was rathei novel doctrine, and cotitrary to tht ape. nality on the part of Ministers, that with 100 sail rienee of Statesmen In all ages. The Noble Earl of the line, and a vast number of frigates at their dis. (Bathurst) seemed to think it an excuse to say that posal, they were altogether uiprepared for the war ; the Americans took us at a disidventage, and were with America ? Yet the situat i on, of maritime affairs i so.unciril as to make war upon us when it was most in Europe, rendered the Charge against them still 1 convenient to themselves; as if this eery convenience stronger, and less defensible. There hest not existed • should not have hoen to our Minikters a symptom that since the commencement of the war, a moment in war eras intended. ' But the greatest fault of alt which there was so little necessity or presanre for its n Meh l however, an Ettgli.li Peer had the presump. employment and service. This was so very obaous„ tion to offer in extenuation, was—that if had been that one of them had said, " we must diminish our the systems of Government to cripple and cramp •- • I navy, and increase our army." Russia was our ally, . the navel power of the kingdom, in order to further Sweden was neutralized, Denmark was quiet, some military projects, Which were attended—God France was deprited of all naval strench ; se was, kisows! with what success : and the navy of Great Holland ; Spain had become our friend. Yet in Britain was thus crippled, at a time when we were at this extremely faionrable state or .the marithee i war for our indipeiscrenee,and tieesseeisteeee. f fone powers of Enrope, and with , above 1050 ! ,hips of drop of Engti;lr • bitted flowed in the veins of any war in commissioth the Noble Viscount admitted the ; Peer„surely enOry elk( Of be enforced against impossibility of blockading the coast of America!-- those who had the audacity to estate such a System. The House coult' not forget, that Losd St. Vincent i He contended that it was matter of extreme regret, had blockaded Cattle for two and t wepty ,months;,, that Ins war, nit with a great nasal pesiet, but with and what could (tale prevented the blockade of i the smallest marine farce in the world, the British the Chesapeake and Delaware, .if an adequate force ; flag had in every contest been attended,--not, thank _ had been properly stationed between the Capes 2 withoss.— .1 God, With dishonour, but—always 1 Ife felt himself justified in maintaining, that New I The superior outfit and size of the American fri- York might be blockaded nine .months gut, of the gates was well known to our Governatent, and twelve, and that ncomplete and constant blockade; they. should have been prepared: but nb„ this the of Rhode Island might tin kept tip. In short, all the; Noble Viscount treated as an absordides; and uow,— military ports might be, securely invested.. But this ; now that out frigates were beaten in every rencontre, was not all. While so.,eototious a. negligenee wets I —ships were cutting down to make frigates which may evinced, in not employing* ship of the line and two 1 at last dare to ;TOar on the fete of the ocean. [ll2ar 1 frigates to form the blockade of each port, no force I lie thought the disastei which had befallen the was maintained in the West Indies for the secpritY,of i British flag and the excuses urged this night, were our trade. If Ministers, as he . contended, were i such as to awaken' tfie indignation of *their Lordships, deficient and tardy in their preparation for defence i and to make there deMead enquiry. and aggression, they ought, at least, to have evinced ; Lord LIVERPOOL said, that the military part a degree of activity suited to the exigency of the lof the war, which' was reckoned of nothing, or crisis, and to the, vindication of the national honour `merely the effect of chance, reflected the greatest and dignity.. He would have been tempted to pardon . credit on Administration. As to the naval part of their past mars and neglect, had they inflicted yen- the canipaigrt, he insisted VW the probability of a geance on' the Americans ‘ for the insults and disgrace, war with America was less strong at the tiros whea experienced by the British flag in thecapteres of the , it was declared, than at many anteribt 'Naha.— Guerriere, the Macedonian,.. and Java. lie really ; The examination •oo the Orders in iCouneil afforded believed, that had any , one of the Anierican frigates, ; some hope of reconciliation, and the subseqttent re. which had thus insulted au4 triumphed over our naval ; peal was considered by those , who professed to be pre-eminence,been taken, his Noble Friend would not , acquainted with the American mind as a certain have brought forward thepreseut motion. no certainly i mean of ensuring peace. ~ This . : being. the case, and felt thet . great and just praise was due to t h e exer- ; the large fleet in the • Sclietdt,.:ena,,tlie irate of the tions made by thine entrusted with the defence of ; North of Europe at that time, rindered ,t esadvis- Canada ; but Was that defence, however judicis t able to spare a larger force to.'aiet igthiet,Ainerica., Mil, * • • . prempt ) intipllant, a sufficient vindication of Deeply . as he....ragretted.theleitt •teth 4 riigates, no voters ?If f dada were. 4. •4117 -happily presiiiiii, , Slime could attach to Government :on eierystistion `what - hall biell since done — to render the preservailion i in the American . setts there was a much latger British of it in every respect Reggae ? .itevis informeal t ,g* i force than American. This was the case in North the Americans had gained, a decidedi superiority,, op ' America, at. Jamaica, .and the Leeward Islands.-- the Likes, and that a frigate of 6 guns had beeal The frigates had, unfortunately met individually with biillt, end an kdetthate tetiee Prepneetle. for ...iittftr,; forces inferior, and had c a p tured them i bet Mad the cepting all supplies and Co munications., Atte there..eresl whole naval force been on the American station, fore, thought: that Miters were late, for when Om fnond that . to the loss of merchaptasen, none hal min a day, too ; such accidental disasters could not have been pa'. all,tbis prepara ti on ! vented. As bid' *n made,: ite4 ; was, in fact, in actual reads- i been lost e xcept those who chose to ran the risk, ne* iPpyi Klispitta4* i t Yeo, wio t i number of of sailing W•ithout convoy. . o:pa seamen nt the cnasequ'ences I Lord DAR NLP * rep , fed. Is • 4 already , &Of div ided— ivia ~ endeniable •A AT .ahem 19 were resales izentaiost Ii , were pp o ie...—)4o.ritv 4 4 :iiinii It es, of Ministers le - it *Tliesa*Clock till Monday. blitikade die gin with I blockaded • -4 ow' .iotlilt OF COMMONS. lkiteratllASCOlON . o pit.sented a Petition dried tw SW) proving perinissioo to send out Ntassiosariol to ctikvert the HinelUos to their particular vriem of faiih. INSOLVEM: DEIsT,ORS' BILL nrtler of the Div being read fur gointioto a Committee titsolsent Debtors . ' Bill, -lum - niovedNhas it be on inotraction to the Com -4'oe provisions .of the Nilo India. rent t~tnru g ti :. the lieport via. , re - ni ll ordere:l to be re-coinolitted on Tuesday CCIphIIiWT - ia, OF WAYS AND MEANS. Vi M. FITZGERALD rose to ftare to the 6'n ;chid& the Irish Lo.:n . had been ; after which he should sebmit to Certain resolutions. The terms were se ',OOl. subscribed, the coptre clots should 01 national justice ann u warfare. The Noble Lou singular litte•of argument, land force employed in Can he inferred that the naval North American station in also. lie could not recog t:eduction, even admitting I however, SO far at varieties successive attacks made b 3 I) 4 uniformly defeated by this 1 , 1 Wary power. The Noble no biockade couldpossibly first notified in the Gazette *lea Lime the Noblp li. the coarse of tunny f *l'll* given to Mr. Fulton. A ship Was blown I .I,(lie abject he hid s up Indi . il; - big many preparatory Measures were whiek. had *l_readf cOtearrh4. There was, he con - ' The House , offs ,fisamen v to ! prevent the consequences , or v.i.:11-4i Hance. .This", nessari t jiiiel 'at would not be afforded by an tendeti, • :nndeniab is .prVingption of the criminality .. /.le: sf fil: li tss . I; ! me per cent. ,; _edenif:s sh i p. CoMphisied gunpowder placed under of Ministers in neglegfipitthe means they posscased of 141. .. , thar;iiiiirnia'a a bigtoin' Might certainl y loM it tibut it bliiikatleilnring tilt. Z ik • a tit -- f it_ J • 14 state that it, a ,tnt , 1 \ ! pc, of e!glit months, kfi as micfi', s wles i 9 . '046 'telting of a bird b' • it( p u tt gin ' h ,X .pe . tkg ,on. ltt amines. ) . e could ;CC has . the principles ,' itSt i . fttihe a tSejitt' the exPetintent i tito ,night' blockaded by the American privateers so Very.ciPrlYe) " lAllefterstrOtSCOU of legjdmate , ws soAidtrieir (rpt . enough •at other.tiese, s . the that our vessels cat-lying sugar coist.wity”!/, l l ll 4.P°R t i m i t i ak i pti.l4.' pravin id adopted n • sea was fair Vcio 11 'air too calm ) ' for placing the ex- by the enemy, ltild this appeared. to. him fa ta:ro a, cif v 4 ert the Hintlims oink tha( the ploders. ~ • A,tft ,Elonapitie t was it to supposed he sufficient ground and call! for enquiry. t e ie t soo o ,l -•‘ ' INsoi 0 of hi itileadetimite, I did net "'Nide' ' ore he rei t eeted?—ite I#9elf nejligsincejarevailed ssAtis . r ;pspect . to' the ward _lll% o l= 1 4 d hinted' to the ! felt some tine4l' . 'nights at tie 'idea of *ilia 10[14. There was no defepce what,rer .in that 1" Pe Mr. T. sr‘t ITH - si en itiadeiunte invoking sn' h ' 'WO tivisWiiif: human• Ri t — illiiirt,44l 3 l 4l t 9 sots sr9ra twittitting o lipt American , mitten to extend 'the nonce of this I . Ily the rose Vito' ' 'en ifis ' ticielocl * ' itek ers ' •.• soaelweed 4heae ,strcomhtincioni. all 7ke B ill " I f' ) " 1 . 11 1 which were, but eequir i Po I. 1.-01 V II .• re • not 4,, . . e , ~. 4.• •t.'•..:- i .' ' '1 Tlliirrj, "..leurnued at ' ,•-, • , . ceived, and the ntl t nit • tegumptlen 4•0 1 , ,50m C....,, , Flispk . wnich .coutu, De , pcoveus and UP ° t " e i n ' n e'' ae " ',dint in three , was desira 'l l 4 tOOlTten,:d . the sitiiiiiosis of seentii;, Oed the necessity O'f, enquiry. •W hat, was Ate c9fAiltl ,he had been though imprleitArnitiiititt i itieliidi . 40 : 00_,Mplim, :.- !sit**,g t east of Guilyut? The, trade ,or Suri. ! : kr. Vs M. F nsufficieut mi.' that could ti'llt, i beive , :t r 4Teilbilited,e*Net stfi . ... cietieL Rot he - . , I . se:ch - . wiuthe da ,r i Hatfse" fief 4 1.n i s I to think that I . service hid hiten perf' '' le ~'o ' WOW ho linr., vt h."4lregelt; * . - I g n . ° P l l4r ii°l " 5 fg . '" 42(l a d ".• ' witho•tbm% at theara• Y4 A I. ~' , , ' • 141 e, 40(6 hr :lip . ~.. ' VI . . at itatiqp lie . Wiese vertu& den *bleb he ' little titteestiiiy . as peed'. .1 - ••• ' + 1 l o(teittlpitt !Ranter *lll, l : " t i .. p . to'sere fw tjkost i tottillit . 1-- i iii • .• • 1 orrilieellii=-• reoilited eitotitoratbitilll .' •,, i' V . fish *is'. pv6180146 ' • ,i ~ ' ribra . and BerWiiel For every 100 ... • . • ..- . . - r•S“ • , . , . ' . ~ . k • . . • .. • . . • k 'Me to pro. :".•, • . _ . IPMet.4llo,o; _ • • . --..•--------- ---- --'---"'".".-------- '4 : 1 .- .• ' !' r,,, • ,... '''• - - . '',-.. ' ir' .. •••• ' . ' * . , -,. ' - wiro tect th a e l m so . seat without coast th a e st Brazils e ~7, , . asnwigabs,t'isadalicuwasair withoo What Aiie . i. As to the criticism, width had boon audit itt: l o , ,i, • of our naval architecture, he meld \ t , i 4,. . 1 ~ . , , rl i i c l a , 11 i re y s tate e there 'sive it house that the Navy Board had every ,' ••, . . loony as 'such as possible, to briog tioto ao chance of safety, and ,the consequence d was th e Ive..Z- 0 • soriabl to •.- , aced to' pullet Our, . - ti - , ture of the Peacock • but the evil le remedy any defects which were knows to es . t ____ , . did , _ ~, . , ~ ,and injuries • * [Fiera - the Noble Lord entered tutu *um ,i n The ,n et mat on if , ,„ \ • not ...onfined•to these parts, for no longer a g o i rest [weep , r • ‘. . f . Al •. - . , ;,. ge IMPS, • i or, . 'th en yesterday advice' had f.ll A ,11.7 ) - .. ~been received of th e cap. :e use n irptWicipar of 1 ~,' 1 ' ,"' ~ • ? naval teem. h• '. • sr• of 'three Soo i .., h-Sea whalers by American * fro Ahelaw dad sit . • - Is ' I 'aier i t *, - di ~ • . ,_ i - A as fa , , • ro .. s. In short, unless their LArdshi . .. •10 ' : . plats. ps were deter. :. t r ilitiri et f; we t t a lb`u . 'lO - , i . . •. ~, - "at tame ''. that -. s.- iC ' Mined to resist every impression which . , s could he ade by the strongest possible facts , they we 0 ; UlliCLANS4erras, _ v . `--- '' - or. Z il l iiii*ln or : truired that the -* likt • ' fern , a „,...- ' ` ' r avy hound to consent to the proposed el: ' • The qurv. ir that the policy which be.ll4llo*scribld lif keliattrit PIS •' ' . • er e twee unequal rum. Noble Viscount had said, that the,ratki : dfi i i . • sereace his i., igbt ham wa Jo • at w • the true system on which usariti v n e t t u t ;yrith America ba_t . aFl3 . ut if it_was sAtipstA4 s, ftkie it , . . . w 4 hp did thcassertions tally with the s. e shout& be coritilete inkrWili r zorsted ~. 1.11 , i a nif . ~ttu l it ~ . , lir . 1 4 117?" 'tar; a Toitr i .7 4 j eCt e y . tin - filo tila' Oink.' It lber believed tdb that '• iff elY4ts'lslat bin , ter , ilt. he .nyerty: Could it be ft , , we. 1 I spite ,of floe& on the . Bonne loypapp? Earl (hey • y °red • I eo ' part of America, and were'eabbited in every branch good management , then .a ... Or., ,'tol Seel/ be sodseother arguments, and concluded with giving his d ,of American commerce. over, the Conk broken up .after acquittal was pro. cordial as , elot to the,moti on . !I1 ' Earl srA NHOPE thought that the Adtitiralty was nounced, and no more wsibld be ventured (s, die sub. Lord G A 1.1.0 WAY e‘plained. ,e' much to blame, in not having ordered the con. ject. Butlfitcould be. t _ptoytiathat I not ohly ct , n theAnio. Lill B ATIII.Jiti r observed, that the chief ground W 1 Jies oftbuiana r.ll by the N )1,1 truction of vessels of a small draft of water, from 1 rican enast,butin the est n , . , Ara , taken ,( e L ords who supported the motio n , e ! '..._ ..„1 1.1--.. r• --..A.•••••01 snit which had land to make all the World Wwituess of our . failures, 1 was derived from the capture of three Fleit i ; ) f, ia.,..,