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r, • . 1 r in March, !WC to the captors of the enemy's Beet in the harbour of Toulon, specifying the times when payment: were made to the several classes of per sons belonging to that feet, with the amount of the balance , voted by Parliament to the persons so en titled. t tether with the amount of the sums in the hand , o. t e agents, and nor yet distributed." Mr. ROSE wished to know, whether there was any specific office that could furnish the Accounts so required Sir CHARLES POLE apprehended it could be furnished by the proper Officers belonging to Green , yids Hospi al. Mr. HUSKISSON observed, that since the cap ture of Trillion, a considerable delay had happened in the way of a final adjustment of accounts, many persons engaged in that transaCtion being since dead, and it being difficult to find out their repre sentatives, a. •e.ll as to make nut the rights of the survivors. H^ believed application had already been made to the Treasury for an account of the balances remaining in hand, and that the surplus unclaimed would, after three years, revert to Green wich Hospital. Sir C. POLE expressed his concurrence, that whatever balance remained unclaimed should go to Greenwich Hospital. INDt A. Mr. R. DUNDAS moved for Accounts of the annual revenues of the East India Company, of Bengal, Fort St. Genrgo. Bombay , Ste. for three years last, and up to the year ISo6.—Ordered. ELECTION PETITIONS. • Chippenharn, C runty of Wilts, double Return Ordered to be taken into consideration on Saturday, the 2ith instant. Petitions complaining of undue Returns for Pen rhyn, Kincardioeshirr, Newcastle.under-Line, New Melton, Beverley, Malmsbury, East Grinsted. Bridg:. , iter, Christchurch, and Westminster (on the Pet in of R. B. Sheridan, Esq ) were ordered to be tar t into consideration on the `6sth instant. The 6: CKETARY at WAR presented the re turn of ' names of persons anpointed Inspeeing Field Oir. sof the Volunteer Carps. Upon t• motionif Mr. C. JOHNSTONE the staid papers •••• 're ordered to be printed for the use of the Member f the House On the n: of Mr. N. V ANSIT rART, the several Ads ri ye to the intere•.urse between this crummy and . rica were ordered to he referred to a Committi , ionsider tve matter thereof, and report. Mr. liVlNDfl.' - loved," That there be hid be- fore the House ; •nrn of -he names of men raised for the rep... ny, month by mond?, dur ing th* 'seats 1 • ..1 1806, specifying what number were risc ' .d -r the Additional F rte Aft, and under the . he. - means of recruiting ; and als from the IA e,..lat.tlaty, 1807, up to the lat?st per , 0 when th • arm; can he made up." The SECRETARY at NV Alt mimid an addi tional account, specifying the number nt boys and of men. Mr. WINDHAM also moved a return of the number of desertions from the army at home, monthly, from the Ist of January 1807, to the latest period. distinguishing Great Britain and Ire land, with the corresponding period between 11103 and 'COS.—The accounts were severally ordered. Mt. SHERIDAN, after saying a few words, de clared it was not his intention to press the motion which he bad given notice of relative to the exclu sion of Strangers from the Gallery. NAVAL ANUSES. Lord COCHRAN F. said, he rose for the purpose of the produaion of several papers respelling Naval Services, in the manor, in which they had been carried en for several years past, and which had occasioned great disgust in the service, both amongst officers and men. Not that he was de sirous of throwing blame upon any man; at the same time he hoped that those in Administration, when they saw the evil, would endeavour to remedy it. He shettld move for c,:pies of all letters from Commanders of men of war, relative to the state and condition of the ships under their command. Here the Noble Lord stated, that he held in his hand two letters from the Surgeon of the Phenir, two months before she was lost, representing the condition of that vessel as not bring at all fit for sea. He al,o read extraas of letters re !peeling the had state of the Felts schooner, written on board °llly a few days after d:c left the Channel, giving a dismal accoliot of her condition: also of the Atalanta sloop. this was wrecked off Rochfort. More men, he declared, had been wrecked off Rochfert thislast w,nier, than would h: ve served to cut out the enemy's fleet. He should also move for an account of the number of monists for which ships in the Chant-el et had been kept at sea. Fire Pla,tarnrt, in part ict.lar. although ouly•within a few hears sail of the coast, had been kept for eiOt months cif Brest and a severe order had been issued, that no man on board of that ship should put his foot on board any other of His Majesty's ships. lie should also move for P2pktS relative to the Sick List ; and should prove that nem really ill were not suffered to go into the Hospitals, and that with a view of saving ei.pensee. He also proposed to move for an account of the quasi t:ry . of fresh provikions furnished for vessels at sea, from the Ist of Mara.. 1805, to the lst of Match, tall. It had formerly been customary for vessels in the Channel set vine, when they had been out for four months, to be allowed to come into port, and to have suificier.t time to recruit ; but, under the late Commander-in-Chief, this rule had been set aside, and vessels had been kept five, six, yea, eight or nine months, within a short sail of the coast, without being allowed to come in 1.,r the benefit of refreshment. He also proposed, that there be laid before the Ileuse an account of such orders as had been aged upon from the Ist of March, 1905, to the Ist of March, 1807, by autho rity of Commanders-in-Chief, respelling leave granted to, or with-held from, officers and men, dis tinguishing who the Commander-in-Chief was at the time. He observed, that it had been a great cruelty towards the men, not to suffer them to set their foot on shore fot a number of months. and that at the very time when the Commander-in•Chiel was enjoying himself is London, and deriving great emoluments from his official situation. If this were allowed. he should not be surprised if the com mand should be suffered to he held as a sinecure, he a Foul or a child. He should also move for such erten as had been *fled upon, altering the nibs, or restraining officers or surgeons from sendieg men to the naval - hospitals, whilst labouring under sore diseases, at least not before they had a survey open them by the Surgeon-General of the Conunandma in-Chief. Now, it was tmpossible that that Surgeon could go from one ship to another in blowing weather ; hence it had happened, in some in, stances, that when such di:eased men had been at last sent. amputation had been found necessary to save their lives ; and seamen were frequently la bouring under diseases, at the very time they were sent out of port. He had himself seen about 70 men unwell on board a ship, who bad been refused admission into a naval hospital; and he had known men who had been admitted into the hospital after having been nine months at sea, and in a scorbutic habit, who had been refused trifling indnlgencies. When egg-wine had been tweeted. the answer was, that eggs were not allowed in the hospital, and the men have died. Even the allowance of milk, ne cessary for the dressing of sores, had been cut off, and even the quantity of lint necessary for the dress ing of wounds. He then moved, 6 , That the Papers he had specified should be laid upon the table of the House ; and also copies of all letters and rept.- sentations from the Commanders and Surgeons of the Pim nig, altatenta, and habit, respedMg the state and condition of these vessels, and the sick therein." On the motion being seconded by Mr. DILLON. Sir SAMUEL HOOD declared he had heard that night, in the House, what he never believed would have been advanced in Great Britain. He never could have believed that such a motion as this could have proceeded from so gallant an officer.— For whatever accidents had occurred to these ves sels, he considered himself responsible, as well as Commodore Keates. With reaped to the loss of the Atalanta, no blame was imputable to any one ; it was on a lee-shore, and in a great swell ; the vessel was at that time so zoned. that the Captain declared it was owing to that circumstance that the men were saved. Here there was no negledt on the part of the Commander-in-Chief, any more than of the Commanding Officer at the time she ran on shore. Commodore Keates had afterwards ordered a survey on her, when she only made four inches of water. instead of twenty, as bad been reported.— The Felix had been driven on shore in a gale of wind, when carrying a flag of truce off St. An dero, and on alee-shore. when she was not suffered to enter a port. With reaped to provisions, Sir Samuel declared he had commanded the squa dron for some months, and if he had been kept longer out. he should not have complained. It was not in port he recovered his men, but at sea; sea air did them service. ( &nth.) He should always he ready to stand forward on the seamen's behalf. in ev re simation, but at the same time he felt him sea oeund to repel the unfounded charge of the Noble Lord. The only tendency of the Noble Lord's motion was to breed discontent in the Navy. Lord COCHR ANE, in explanation. said. that he had not imputed the loss of the Atalanta to EAI I Sr. Vincent, but had only stated the bad condition of that ship. Admiral HARVEY said, the Hon. and Gallant Baronet had sufficiently explained fads, and in such a clear and officer-like manner, that little need be added. It was a painful consideration, that public naval characters should be liable to be perpetually attacked, as if they were put beyond the lower of the elements. He had found no want of burgeons, but only of Assistant-Singeons. There had been found plenty of medicinal chests. at the expense of Government. So fur as his knowledge and ex. perience went, he declared there was no founda tion for the charge brought forward by the Noble Lord. Admiral MARKHAM said. it was with regret he rose to speak upon such a subject, because the motion of the Noble Lord at once struck at the dis cipline of the naval service, and would be bandied about in every newspaper. If complaint had been made with respell to any particular ship, or aay cause of neglect had been made out, and that the Board of Admiralty had negleded such complaint made to them, then indeed there would have been ground for bringing forward such motions. But what state of discipline unmet the fleet be in, when an j interior officer thus attempted to drag the Command er in Chief before the Bar of. that House But even if the House should agree to go into an investiga tion, he was confident that no foundation whatever would be found for this charge. With respect to the two vessels that had been lost. he had seen Com modore Roues that morning, who confirmed what Lis two gallant friends had stated. Commodore Hood bad been stationed off Rechtort for 5 months. and .fsdiniral Harvey had been for about a year off Cape Fiaisterre, but had either of them made any complaint : From them he wished that others would learn patience and perseverance. Every emotion had been strewn to the sick; lime-juice bad been administered in scorbatic cases ; more had been time last winter is supplying the ships with fresh I provisions than ever before. The surgeons had been ! put upon a liberal allowance. and Government had tarnished neceasafies. He had never before heard any cause of complaint. But if the Noble Lord had thought himself right, why had he suffered so much time to elapse without making his complaints before the proper Lleentive Boards? The order of the Commander in Chief, that men should not be sent on shore, till examined by his surgeon, was a very necessary one, to prevent men from ,being impro. perly discharged by particular officers. who might wish to get any particular man dismissed. With regard to Cie charge brought against the Com mander iu Chief, for being occasionally on shore. he must observe, that when a fleet was subdivided into different squadrons, he rather thought the Commander in Chief was as much in the way of his duty, in giving directions on shore, as asti u g with one squadron as a junior Admiral. if !here was any thing requiring examination, he had no doubt that the Board of Admiralty, upon a proper representation, would attend to it. The CHANCELLOR of the EX-CHEQUER declared. be saw no ground whatever for granting the motion of the Nobk Lord, and be lamented that the Noble Lord should have thought it his duty to bring forward such a motion. The House would at all times look to the welfare of the brave men who were their country's defence ; but It would also cautiously guard against listening to such mo- dem unless the person who brought them forwatd could state that he had adopted every previous mea sure, to remedy the grievance he complained (if. It any particular officer found fault with any partieulat regulation, it was surely the duty of that offi cer to make his first representation to the pr 0..., per Board. and to try to have redress in a re gular way, without hazarding that feeling of discontent which such motions tended to create. i It was fortunate that the House had within its walls, that evaning, gallant Officers, who could give such a satisfailory explanation of the citcumstances el leged. otherwise, in what situation must, that House have stood ? But, by good fortune, the House was thus enabled to meet the charge, in limier. With respell to the allalenta, the Noble Lord himself had said enough to acquit every oar of blame. But if, without any previous complaint, examination, or inquiry, such motions werz brought forward. he should certainly give them his negative. Mr. WINI)HAM perfeelly agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman in the rule he had laid ' down. The Noble Lord felt none of that restraint in making his complaint, which inf. rior officers sometimes feel, when charging their superiors. Rut he recolleiled that the .Noble Lord had come fresh from a popular Eleaton, and that he had been only fulfiling his promises to Isis Constituents. But even then the N.ble Lord knew of these causes of complaint, and ought he not to have made them known to the proper Boards? The absence of any previous complaint was of itself sufficient round for rejeaing the Nuble Lord's motion. But not only so. the very charge alleged was completely disproved by the evidence et the Noble Admirals and Commodore. The Noble Lotal's strewn' was perfealy gratuitous and unsupported. Alter having heard such general exclamations of late against va. rious brancees of the public expenditure, he hardly expelled now from the Noble Lord such complaints ' of rigid economy in the service To state cases of particular hardship proved nothing against general regulations, although there might be a 4 error in enforcing too rigidly general fates s but nothing of this nature ought to be brought forward as a com plaint in Parham's*. With regard to the Com mander in Chief's being on shore, when his past ser vices were considered, his year', fatigues, and health, he could not consider this as unreasonable indulgence. when there was no enemy's fleet to be encountered. Mr. R.. WARD defended the conduct of Eatl St. Vincent. He had•heard the Noble Lord's mo tion with pain, because it interfered with the rules of discipline. The first complaint ou:lst to have beers made in the department where the *Lose was stated. Sir C. POLE said, that no Government bed ever done so much for the Navy as the last Ad ministration had done. The Noble Earl, for merly at the head of the Board of Admiralty, had not been many weeks in that situation, till he set about examining the state of the sick, and an in crease was made by him to the pay cif Petty Offi cers. He gave what they did not ask, but what he thought they deserved ; a conduct which inspired them With that confidence and spirit which was so nee sary to seamen. This shewed t. , at attention wa paid to the navy. Besides t' . that Noble E 1 i i followed the worn nut sear, •-. to ibis home. and raised his 1 .n,ion frors, 71. t s le.. so as to allow him to end lit, days with tetAini: of gratitude to wards his coun , ry for the atte itioe paid to him. Mr. SHERID AN said, he had formerly heard and reprobated ahe sentiments which the Noble Lord had repeated this day. He thought he would have desisted from persisting in these topics. as he (Mr. Sheridan) had formerly produced documents to convince the Noble Lor). that '.I was wholly in error upon the subjea. He did in presence read a letter from Commodore Keetes, bla.. it,,{ himself. it at.y fault existed, and stating, VIAL none was imputable to the Noble Earl He had had the happiness to restore the Nnb:e Earl to the good opinion of his audience, who had the good sense to discover, that it was a discu.sian entirely out of time and out of place. brought on for mani festly selfish purposes, and not for the public good. Supposing Parliament had not been sitting, was it possble to c:inceive the mischief that was likely to arise from such repents going abroad, and circu lated in every ship of the Navy ! He thanked God there were means in that house sufficient to refute the assertions made by the Noble Lord, notwithstanding the alarming circa they have already had, by the newspaper reports of them in his speeches from the Hustings. Commodore Keates, being a man univer sally esteemed, felt himself bound, from reading the statements of the Noble Lotd, to demand of the Admiralty a trial by Court Martial, which they however thought proper to refuse. But was it no thing the. to wound the feelings of a man of cha react and respeitability ? lie believed there was no Board of Admiralty ever existing, that was not disposed to consider any representations as to abuses in the navy, and to reaify them when found deserv ing of notice I and there never was any injury com plained of to that House, whiclethey were not dis posed to remedy. The Noble Lord had stated, that the Admiraltf had refused redress upon his representations ; he wished to put a question to him, and to ask him, whether he had ever. upon any oc casion.made a representation to the Admiralty upon the subjea now complained off He thought, that instead of a motion of this kind being made upon this occasion, it ought to be a motion for the pies duaion of all copies of representations made by Lord Cochrane to the Admiralty relative to the .abuses in the Navy. Lord COCHRANE rose in reply, and was pro. ceeding to observe, that an Hon. Gentleman who had spoken that night, although one of the Board of Admiralty, was better known on shore than afloat. —lmproper motives had been imputed to him, which Mr. YORKE here spoke to order ; and The SPEAKER observed, that the Noble Lord's stating that motives had been imputed to him was a kind of imputation against him (the Speaker) for not having noticed it. He was in the judgment of the House whether be had been guilty of ~verlisoking any improper allusions.—A cry of 11,..5. I Hear! followed • and [Jul COCHRANE then proceeded to state, that the system of pellet had been such, that young and inexperienced offizyrs had been appointed to commands which ought uuly to Lon been eutrusted to those who were•old lad experiences!. The N o Lord was Proceeding to, descant upon this top ic , when Mr. WARD and Admiral ITARVtY lbw at the same time to call him to order, upon tile gs. ottn i that he Was proceeding to talk unconseiled with ~,,„ subj.& under discussion. Lord COCHRANE again proceeded to repraN that it was a matter of great regret to hi m , a ., misfortune to the country, to fi nd that p)ung ofi , cars hod been put into the co .n of larg e up , drops. is preference to old o ffi cers, who hal tile in their country ' s service. An lion . Geridentrnioa said that there could be no mnre.blame a s to i. Atalade running ashore, than there could be a. the veuel which h.•( Lord C. )commanded t upon the he had to observe, that be bad written to the ist.lmi ralty,reqursting them to give him a Court L:trtill but that was refused,he presumed. from a con- ei::u , . ness of the vessel be commanded being i n a th . crate. The carpenters were at work upon t.i:i. • parts of the ship, the whole of the caronnahe, 1, upon deck, and not a single thing ready for ~,a i had they been attacked by an enemy's 1.,g • -.. . (Here the Noble Lard was entering upon s.-n‘• i sorralitiea, which occasioned hint once rn^: • 1 called to order.) Various applications wt. :: to the Admiralty, relative to the appointment n; ficers, without throwing any imputation upon Sr. Vincent. What had been stated by an Hof-. Member as the cause which produced debility it: tin Noble Earl, Was extraordinary, st, it was the very same cause that produced the health of tilt seamen when at sea. He had not heard. from ea ! t id e of the I-loose any justification of the 1.73 G..:, of keeping vessels fat months within a short lance from the gravel beach, without allowing 1:r melt to go on shore to stretch their limbs kr 6+ benefit of their health. lie had made serral ap. plications to the Admiralty, but had failed is N. ceiving any answer that could be in the snialli•st gree satisfaftory. If what he now asked was ti to be granted to him, he was still to be denied tilt possibility of showing to the world the correecita of his statement. _ _ The question being now loudly called for, t!i Ninble Lo'rd's first motion was put from the C;r-.1. and hertived Without a divi►ion ; and ti.e was withdrawn. StIiPirSSION Or INSURRECTION. Sir A. ‘YELLE.SLEY brought op a Bill to rl press insurretlion, and .to prevent the disturbsna of the public peace in Ireland; also a Bill to rah vent arms from being kept in the custody of impto per r er tens in that country. Both of these Bills were read a first, and orderrd to be read a second time co Thursday mat o sal to be printed. SCOTCH JUDGES. Mr. ADAM, pursuant to notice, moved," there be laid before the I-louse, by the proper OS I nets, Copies of all the Warrants for Pensions t; the Judges of the Curt of Session, or Barons ci i:e chequer in Scotland, since the 15th June, 171). , ; and particularly that of Lord Soonefield on 1f93, that of Lord Metbven, in January, 11104; and thl of 11t06, ordering the Arrears to be paid up to ' Representatives:** IRELAND. Lord HOWICK said. that understanding I Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Foster) have stated that the petitions from Charitable I stitutions in Ireland a• re all in the same wort.. those of last Session, he was astonished tc find th it was intended to ',aka an alteration in the o which had been presented from the College Maynooth, by reducing it to its former establishmen so he should wish the Right Hon. Gentleman t postpone moving it ie the Committee of Sapply ti a future day. Mr. FOSTER said, he had merely stated •hot th Estimates were all in the same words. The Esu male produced as to the College of Maynooth, WA leaving it exactly as it existed during the Iris ParWiment. The reason he did not go further vi that he saw no documents to authotiae him to pia vide for any additional building+. He had no oh jeftion, however, to postpone It to Wednesday neat COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. Mr. Foster laid the following Estimates bet the Committee Supply, All of which wets sev tally agreed to, via. lrish Cerra-•r• L. .. Di Civil Buildings . . 25,4:00 Pouting Statutes 1,244 • . Proclamations . 10, WO . Printing and Stationery 21,202 Criminal Prosceutlens 25,00 • Public Offenders . a • 2,500 Non-conforming Ministers 9,4'.:9 1 • Promise 1,047 I • • (fold Mine 600 • • • Public MCP?. • 1,111 • Linen Maud:Orate . . 11,600 tun Fruits apoo . . Heralds, *c. Clothing • 1046 BatttroAse Guanh . . 140 Commissioners of Inraing . 22.500 Charter Schools • 23,270 . Foismilmg Hospital . . 22,500 Marine Society . . 1,609 Ifilwroian Scheel . •11,624 Female Orphan Hesse 1406 • • Di scee ntenancing Vice 1,461 • Lock Hospital 7,9 1 . . Howe of Industry2s,927 • I.y ing-in•Hospraal 400 • • Cliaritalear Donations 400 • • Cilicge of Surgeons 9,817 . . Dutlin Society . . . •1111,20 Farming Society . . 5,000 Wide Streets 4,500 . . Sir P D inn's Hospital . 9,204 F..11C1 Hospital 5,092 . . Allowance to Commissioners to Idqeire ? Stevens's Hospital . . 503 into the Yee., (fatuities , and 'Lumen- 22 _ 506 0 I loons of catem Public Offi c es, for • three years • Ut which 2,0001. for Society edablieheil at Cork. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUI gave tvnice, that on hiasday he should More I Irish Lottery. Brit. Cat. The House resumed, and the Report was o ' 4 to be received to-morrow. A Petition was preseated from certain Elc.l aid Freeholders of Oakbampwo, in the Coustl ....1 Devon, complitioins of an sag es dared to be taken Alto coosideratimerato the eith instant. EASY INDIA COMPANY. On the Motion of Idr. DUNDAS, the went in:e a Committee ere tLe LAM Irdi a