The Statesman. — London, England, 1810-06-09 00:00:00

7, mr, - .15pre • sleeted, 'your Petitioners leave to the consideration of year Honorable Mouse; although they cannot bat remark, that I when they fuel on your Journals, uarsintradicted and 14,0-1,.. dres.ed. th.. 1.• your iluaourable House '‘ are as notoriously tented and bought as standtup for .rattle at a fdic l Thai the /foible of Comments does v f u lly sad fai r ly feprelesil the 1 . rople of England ; 4 That the elective franchise parl i any an d u n equa lly distributed, that a rnfi i"i ii." . of yoe.r Honourable House rs' elelited by less than a *, va _hundrealk %Omit part of the male pops:. That the httional 6•44 ° .ght of voting is regulated by no uniform or ...triples . oat Itutlatni,' the smallest, ;and Yorkshire,' the lap , v. .st cowry. ' return the sates 'lumber of Representatives;" " T' , at Cornwall,' which, b% the censti, taken by order of Parliament, appears to °contain a population of 185,269, 4 return. np runny Members to sour Honourable House as the ri,ainties Of Ynrk, Rutland, and Mid lesev,' Which, b 7 the same refolds, contain 1.693,377.—And that Cornwall and Wiltsi' ("Obtaining 378,316 persons,' send more Boroulli Mem. bets *6 Parliament than Yorkshire Lancashire, Warwlsk bblie, Middlesex . Worcestershire, an d Somersetshire, united,' which contain 9.971,026; " £hat 70 of your Honnerable Members dre returned by places, where the elections are notoriously mere matters of _ n'Th at, In addition to the 70 so chosen, RO more of your Honourable- Members are elected by 40 places, In none of g bleb the number of electors exceeds 50. _" That. in addition if, the 160 so elected, 37 more of your Hoilsorable Members Ate elected by 19 places, in none of. •N‘tiek the member of electors exceeds 100. " That les addition to the 197 Honourable Members so ebo , thii 59 more are chimed by 26 places, in none of w bleb oi voters elteeeds 200. " fiat, inalilitian to the 249 so elected, 20 More are Pe- 11.:e..! for Counties in Scirtlaud, by less than"loo electors each, noel rountirt In Scotland, by less than 250 each. 4 I in addition to the 279 so elected, 19 distritts of burets h, Atoiland, not tontaiiiing 100 each, and twa districts f not containing 125 each, return 15 wore of sour Honourable Members. " Tnat to this manner 284 of your Minna:lble Menthes's arm thosim which, being a decided majority of the entire Itottse of Cuuntins, are enabled to decide all questions in the name of the whole people of great Britain: " That 84 individuals dos by their own immediate anth tit vi send 157 of your Honintrable Membet- to Parliament. " That, in • Llition to these Honourable Members, ISO Moro., making, in the whole, 137, sire returned In your Ho nourable Howe, nut by the collectiie voice of those whom thee airear to represent, hut by the recommendation of 70 powerful individuals, added to the 81 before mentioned, 4i.d *taking the total number of lyttrons altogether only li4, who reo.ro .1 decided majority of your Honourable House." Twit lid km than 11.) of vOur Honourable Members owe their eleeiliati entirely to rue interference of Peers, and that 4t) Per,, in defiatree to tier re,olutions of your Honourable Hesse, bare possessed themselves nf so many homage tecures, wed obtained such an absolute anti enciontrouled demand in MAIM very small Boroughs in the Kingdom, as to be enabled, by their own positive authority, to return 81 ' hf your nondur able Members. That seats in jour Hounurable House are sought for at a rug extravagant and increasing rate of ex epee. That th, mean-taken by Candidates to obtain, and by elee tot s to hestow, the tumour of a Seat iii your Honourable House, eddently n.ppear ti have been increasing In a pro gres,i ve degree of fraud and corruption. And that when they learn that a distinct charge hating beenamde in S our Hutt. House, against Lord Castlereagh and .Mt.,Perteva, Members thereof * and then two of his "!::- jesty's Mini.ders, of having sold a seat therein, your Rau. noose refused lit institute any inquiryt That tradOcing skirts in your Honourable House has been avowed to to. " as immriott. as the sun at noon-day ;" and when, in addition to t Cl:cuinstances, they hear the declaration of your Speaker delivered in your lionanr.tble House," that the question theu before you vAS no less than this—whether seals in this Hanle stall he hencef•oth publicly saleable. A proposition, at Ike sonhd a which our ancestors would have startled with nation ; bat a practice which in these days, and within these a lb., in utter oblivion nt every former maxim nod feeling. of Pialiontent, has been avowed and justifird."—When they rein.irk these Wags, your Petitioners timid but believe that laic oin:citation has been dreadfully impaired. our Petitiimers, therefore, repeat their Prayer. that your Honourable Mouse will follow the example or pair predecessors, and expunge all your Declarations* Orders, and Resolution.; relating to Mr. Gale Jones, and Sir Francis Burdett, as tending to the subversion • of our Liberties, and to the intro.luetion of military despotism ; and to recal Sir Fratteis Burdett to the service of the Country in Parliament, that he may three enforce that Reform, which last Session he .0 powerfully recommended; and which, in the opinion of your Pmitioutirs, 1. absolutely neetstary for the sta. bait . ; mid honour of the Throne, and the safety and well-being of the People ; mil your Petitioners further pray, that their former Petition may now be laid no the Table of your Honourable Hattie. very sentiment contained in the Petition was Halted *nth unequivocal demonstrations of sails,. faction, consequently it clearly expressed the sense fut the Meeting. Mr. CI.IFkORD.—I am much obliged to my worthy friend, fur having taken from me the la. boor of reading the Petition ; and now that you are in possession of the reasons upon which it is founded, and the grounds upon Which we deem Parliamentary Reform necessary, I - hope you wilt but think I shall be taking up your time unneces. gorily, by making a few observations, with regard., to what has taken place upon the subject of Re. form. My respectable Friend and myself, at outi, tune, worked extremely hard in support of Mr. Tierney ; mid I call-yoar attention to this subject on account of some expressions which have lately fallen 'from him, With respect An Parliamentary Reform: Mr. Tierney was, at the time to which I am alluding,. Su atravagantly fund of popula. My, that he rather excited a laugh iis the House of: Commons, by asserting, that he had received art.. taining fee from the People, in order to plead their cause against the corruption of that House. The cause has siuce been deserted by him ; but whi. ther, because he did not chose to plead it, or that his clients discontinued their fee, is not for me to determine. In a speech which he lately made, he has tole. us, that he still courts poPularity ; but that it is not the popularity of the rabble but of the chosen few. Mr. Bankes too, the Chairman of the Committee of Inquiry respecting ' 4 inecure Places, tells you, that thou:4li he wishes sinecure places to lie abolished, he dues not Wish fur Re. form ThLre is a serious and important conchs. 'bin to be drawn from all this. With respect to, Mr. Tieraeh as long as he represented a place which it was an 'Mitosir to represent, he boasted that he tied received a retaining fee to advocate their eaustagalost eartiption; but the moment after, by his own toaduct, he was despised and vjected by his former Constituents, and *as returned for• a rotten borough, thco he disregarded the popula. lily he had before courted, and only regarded the poirelarity of the chosen few. Mr. Bankes is for abolishingsincceres, but he is .not for abolishing corrupt boroughs-1 will tell you why : because: Mr. ilankes is the owner of a corrupt borough binned': I hate tto donbt the chosen few ) to whose go.nl opinion Mr. Bankes defers, are the I 'dependent persons who inhabit Curie Castle. , - [a (veers: laugh].. It is lamentable to think' titafi'Vrheneter 'you sift into the conduit of these opposers of Parliamentary Reform, you always wcrise;ed by Nardi(' self.interest, and that there is a principle of personal Nero lurking be. tieath their public ptoressions. .:There is o'ne thing. I would wish to observe : I.have never been. ttotd of attacking utrioVo o who were 'not Present to sleivad themselves-. Above all, far be it frAl 1 , t r , d .' . K . -~.. - me fr; speak any thing ill of the" dead = -bat, I can. not avoid, fora 4.l.nnent, referring to the we e Wiodhain. There was a curiae' debate yesterday in the House of Commons, in which the name of that Gentleman was mentioned. Much as I differ from the system of politics which influenced the mind of Mr. Windham ) I certatinly-could-Uut but 'admire him for his great attd splendid talesits . —iint ' what I wish to observe is, that we find Lord Mil., ton and Mr. Canning grounding their arguments'. against Reform, upon the circesitstance that Mr. Windham was returned to Parliament by . a rotten borough. I believe theto is no one thing at avhich. Mr. Windham would have spurned with so much indignation, as the assertion that ho had: been re. jected by the People of an independent county as their Representative, add had sneaked iato.Patlia. merit under the borough system.. The Orator concluded his observations, by referring to the conduct of Mr. Yorke, the indignant rejection of that person by the rreeholders of Cembridgeskire, the resignation, by his brothers of a rotteu : bo.l rough, in his fatruur—inferrieg from thence, that Mr. Yorke was sitting its the House of Commons, in opposition to the wishes of his former Consti. tuents, in defiance of the free Dater, of the' Country, and in consequence of that corrupt sys tem, which it was the object and deterieisratiou of every Patriot to enjoy. ' Mr. BENTLEY said, he was sure that after what thy Meeting hail heard so eloquently expres. sed, they would excuse him for saying a very few words with reference to their deportment towards I the opponents who on former occasions had endea voured to address them—they had furnished argu ments against their own cause—they had pet into the hands of their adversaries the most powerful weapon they had been able to use.—.He could nut avoid suggesting to the Freeholders of Midtileaex, that before they presumed to teach others to go- 'ere, they ought to learn to govern. thendselres ; before they cried out against disorder, they ought to preserve order—liefure they complained of per.:l suns being prosecuted without trial, they . ought themselves to refrain from condeinfting others without a hearing. lie thought elicit of .thEir success, depended on the example they would set this day, and he trusted they would patiently at tend to every one—he did not mean to insinuate that they should not express their own sentiments, or that they should !withhold their disapprobation from those, who, In appealing to them, made use of terms which were insulting to their under. standings, and altogether opposite to their prin 7 ciples ;—;-but, he United, that if any persons should so address them, they would give credit to 'heir own friends for ability, integrity, and talent to answer them. He professed, that in coMing forward, hid only object was to second the Motion which had been submitted by his respectable Mend Mr. Clifford. He observed, that though their op posers had been deficient in argument, they had nut boon deficient iu manceurrei. It behoved him to point out briefly in what these manceuvret con: sisted. You have, said he, been 'designated in the House of Cumulous as a rabble, as pick. pockets, and assassins. Who is the Gentleman, I will sot call him Honourable, who has so &sera). ed you ? Who is the man, who has dared to come forward in the Muse Of Commons to libel and in. suit, and attempt to degrade those he ought to have rttspected? I will tell you Who tic.is. !leis Mr. Jacob. Who is Mr. Jacob? He was one' who formerly fought in your ranks, but he joined your ranks to betray you, and he quitted them in order to destroy you. [Great appiaosel lle is,! odd of those men, who wanting a seat in Parlia. , merit, have only to go down to a rotten boroug h in a stage coach, pinning a label un their backs, with the words "from the 11.easury," and they are sure to obtain it. . Gentlemen, 1 fear no matt. I regard no mass's resentment, and I will speak of every mail as I think he deserves. - Twill tell you what this Mr. Jacob is, this public libeller, who has disgraced himself by the base and unworthy sentiments to which . he has given . uttearnee. I will expose him in his true and genuine colours. I will unmask and exhibit him in all his Odious deformity. [Shouts of applause.] Will you believe it, .Freeholders of Middlesex, I have known this Honourable Gentleman, as he is falsely cal4d—l ktre known him, its a. public room, draw frost . 1111 pocket a book written for , the ex:, pross.porpose of decrying the :sacred religion. of our'country, that kevelation . on 11h1O11 we .build our hO'pes hereafter, Mid ,triutp. phantly exclaiming, "this is my creed." 'Etc He, horriblc."l—What I am stating to- • yoa,Ven. tlemen, it itrictly tiue, and I shell shock,you,r;llll snore, by stating Itiat bar* heard, this Saute Mr. Jacob declare in a pu dic Meeting; this ltrocioup sentiment," May thelast Otßlngs be stratsled with the guts of the last of lktits." : E" Preo,e(f#. indy - shocking' rriole.nt e.spreisiOlits eJ koteos‘ and indignation."] Yet this is the man who has a seat among the IteprestmtatiVeS of the country, and is clatlin the rubes o f Magistracy. What was to be expected from a se an who had so apostatized from his God and his .!ikittg ? Could any thing be expected from so impure a ponce ? .[" No, no," es•claincd numerous 'yokes.] It was impossible, Gentlemen, to supra° that a Jacob would have done this !—A man 'so sacrificing his principles as an Englishman, for lucre, must rather be coin. pared to Esau, whits sold his birth-right for a mess of pottage. He then'reforred to the business now immediately before the Meeting, namely, the Pri. 'lieges claimed by the House of Commons—and made a variety of very judicious remarks and ar. gunients, from which the evident inference was, that these Privtloges were unjust and uticonstitu. tional. Ile thim adverted to the questipn of Par. liamentary Retorm ; and chewed, that if the sub., ject had bead. attended to at an earlier poried,' this country 'would neither have been Introit* in the Ainerielti - war, by which England ,sought to oppress by arbitrary taxation a people' who vote unrepresented, or that fatal war, which had ad. ded so much to the calamities of the eoentry.-- • Then, in order to strew the absolute necesvity of a Reform in Parliament, he mentioned the follow ing circumstances, which certainly produced a very great sensation in the minds of the *hole AliSeril. bly. He stated, 'from an account presented to the house of L;osnmuns that on the Bth of Junes • • IV STATFSMAN. 1809, there had been paid out of the public mo. ney,' to P. W. Follett, Esq. for the fens on create ing General !laird a Baronet, five hundred pounds. [" Shameful, shameful."] Thin in November there had been pai,t to the said William Follett, fur the ft :5 of a patent creating Lord Wellington a Peer, eight hundred pounds. 1" Dreagful, tde need not wonder at our tates."] That on July 29; ihere had been paid for the investiture of Ge nerals Beckwith, Hope, Spetimr, and Baird, with the Order of the Bith, 15151. . [General ex, presqions of indig,nutiQn and sorrow.] Now , said he, what is all this money paid for,*this 15151. ? It is givdis for no other service than that of liang• ing a red sash, consisting, Of four or five yr , rill of ribbon, over f ou r Ges i tleuvoi 4 s shoulders. ["Rube ber,y, absolu4 robbery.','] Mat uow, said he, let us contrast this with wh e at has been done ii, tlic• Sister Kingdom. I will sbew you how things are managed in Ireland. There is in the same account this Origge—lato b Paid tf-A4',4l , 4iiiii, for in strutting the female weavers of ---1 its the use of the. tly-ibuttlei" You will observe, that it is for initructing them In that branch of menu. faeture *hie!' is the staple commodity of the Island. Wha j t.de you think, after having heard the rewards whieh are givenlor laying a sash over these four ineO's shoulder', was the reguener"" niade to Mr. Quinn. for instructiug the females of an iinmensely large district, hiss bsencis of nos. nufacture, on which the existence of the people dep'entled ?—why ten poundsts. [Violent marmot's, and universal expressions of indignation and re sentment.] The orator then enumerated three or four other items of a similar nature, and it appear. ed by them, that the artists ► whose names he mentioned, bad, for' traversing large . districts, slid instructing a numerous population in various branches of the manufactures of Ireland, N edra altogether a sum not amounting. to more than forty ;pound? t This clotail was heard with extreme emotion, by - the Freeholders, Mid every countenance seemed to express a convict' of the necessity of radical Reform in the Cunstittition. Contrasting the liberslity isod profusion on the one hand, with the penury on.tlia other, he \ vas con. vinced that this alows . Welf sufficient to she* the re. eessity of a iteforM. 'the Ministry, lie observed, were driving the people into beggary, in order that they might afterwards drive them into bun. dige. Ile then referred to other items in the accounts, from which taken the former statements, and pointed out an let of peen. liar oppression with regarsl,.to a pour woman of the name of Lynch. `. Ile, theu adverted to whist he described the Siete hobbyhorse, the Sinking Fund, and he entered into a calculation fur the purpose of shewing what expectations the public haul from that system. As these calculations are matters of, figures, and may be known by all whit chuse to examine theaecounts, we forbear enter. ing upon them. -I N ) result Of his observations was, that the operatiou of the Sinking Fund bore no sort of proportion to the increasing expenditure. of the country. Then he most aptly elucitlatod hit ,argument by saying, suppose a ship* Lt sea, ma( she springs a leak, of course all hands are or., dered to the pumps immediately;—suppose she makes an hundred gallons ef stater withiu a given; time, and wily fifty gallons can be pumped out of leer—what must be the consequence nothing can keep the ship (coin sinking's-44W means than pumping most be reststted,,tst—t: • master of the ship, (rho wished to so rte, hot (from sinking, would order. the eiscpeutors .to ; her.bot.l toin to find out and repair her leak.orthe State, is. that vessel— it is leaky in, every : pate, it is in dan ger' of destruction—in vaip you trust to your Sinking Fund foto; Statesmen must apply them.• selves to Correcting the abuses of the, *ate; •i hem do so, , aid we will apply ostfmtisea,tomspport, the eXpenees of the repairs. . i• Captain BLAKE pres e oAted . hippolk oink how.. ever happy we'should'he . .to girss, publicity to, the obierrations and arguments of Any 1 09ntleman . , whatever might be his sseatiments, ;Op, in coin ing forward. up:in I public mu:adop t evinced these. abilities Which alone can entitle a mats to respeeti we •cettiinly do not feel sseraclacs at all called upon to imitate the patience of ,the Irre4holders Middlesex, by Writing, that i traals.,they stiPred themselves to hear; fur Attathing could be more contemptible, or more intuiting ,to:puchn body as 'the Freiholders of Middlesex, . tboo thee petty et. fort of this same Mr. Blake, as .an , a t ilvocate cal support. of the Privileges cuntendell for sty the Douse of Commons. He. professed his Wootton ofespirkag to that Profession of which Mr. Clif ford wee Onetuber ;.:Itt!t . 41 0 us 4,411 respect „able 104 ; iitildier, we Can 14,,arp hies, that no one will eve '(' be able to apply to bini the observation ' , Tam M T arti am Mercurio. lie seemed to be speaking against time, and repeated much of that ,trash . wttleh we on Thursday heard trona a gentle. man of the name of Jacks, in the Common outsell, making partial quotations from Lord 4,4 and Justice Blackstone, and referring to ihole,periodis of our history when the People wvre as torch en slaved as they are likely' to bib if they do not exert themselves in the same, way their. Ancestor, : formerly did. if this contemptible ofatot, and we. call him so because it it iklly necessary to melte. a distinction between public, speakers uf. ability, and those who aro ai bed Oriturii• es Mourn Codrus was a poet, thinkabis Speech of iisipurt,., ance enough to be detailed to the public, he : nittst report ilhimself. Thu Rev. Mi. .DR*PElL—Gentlemen, You have heard auflicieut of ohl obsolete law (coin the last person who addressed you, and . it is now necessary you should hear,. a little .maser.-11 every thing is to be decided 'by precestent, if no are on all occasion, to . appeal to our, ancestors ) .1 am afraid, l . sowevei we may venerate their gene,. rat conduct,' we.should find ,ipstaneAs sto-justify any act, even the most op.prtssive and unconstitus Outset. With respect to the realms ,oase s it it clear, that the noose of Cominomoterp.inrested, with their Privileges for the purpose Oprotectiug, the people, against. the danger qfifisak, which *al must likely to assail Al t on, . ! Qf ,course I Mean the 'Monarchy. It ',epic, was, in con,,, temptation that the Privileges gratsteil. tn..the. Ito., prese,ntatives 9f the People, would. exerted againit such of the Pcoyle., as weft? Mantling forth . a -- in defence of their et of th e their fellow niq; *. 1161110 - t .""; House of the•iinplied elercised 3 and I may newer hare k.‘w upon .euld ; would of the People svol those who moms had 1 of the Co agaittot nd !Motives, tttok the ground _ Pui was, that the language was hut sufficiently linnible. —1 a:n surd that the beginning otit made its pro. per bow, and that at theenei.of it there Was tlw . proper compliment. You observed that courtef: which is required in all polite 'ciolapsmies; but fr, you had frittered down your complaints, a ti a suffered your language to be so humble that qa , meaning could not have been understood, it wuukt, have been impossible that you could !Ave ex pect _ ed redress—it would be sail, these Petitioners cannot feel the evils they complain of—they speak like people at ease, and nut like those ,v. bo s it 'suffering !nider gri , :sanatis—their language is toe ' tame to.Alppote that they can be much I n curliest. —Such would have been the twister if Mir Peti. tion bad becu couched in the teems, the Wald of which has been stated as the ground of its to. jection. It is an utter impossibility to to. Cuucile the language of humility with time lan. 61,016 of' demand: The people of this . country , klieg they address the Route' of Commons, feel !their Consegnence. It•isenly- for 41th Italian met. sicians who . have been Aistroduced iota this king. dim in times of luxury, to set groans to music. 'You have only to continue item—tu act as well as speak ; and what I mead byteting Is, that when you are called isponito give' yoisr suffrage fur A Number of Pasliantent t ij'ou 43 remember what fort of a person he has proved Isimaelf to he. You will advert to time manner iii which he has conducted himself—tto consider how he has voted on constitutional questiahs, and from thence draw •,y i nur coliclosion with respect to your expectations of Isis becoming a faithful servant lif you and the public at large. Gentlemen" your Petition Saheb' has been rejected, cosit ; stiak in •it more frithsand:Utilise - Mere eleasdy,,proved, than most Ptilitons that have becn:roceived . 1); the noose of MO:Mons ; but in your case, as initially others, it IsWebritin limn"! that truth may hesiacciliogly fallen. sive: We are refuetantly .vimpeOleiL to abridge thu remainder et G this entigtalu's Speech ;he pre. Ceeded to ,argue ably against the constilutionid 'assumplldir of tale Powers and Privileges recently exercised by the House of Commons" .and by fair deduction, dcMoi4trated their inconsistency • with , the prieriplesot the' Elritiali Constiluliou. '. ' • Mi. .;f4l/.791tD again' catee; . forvapt. Ito Odd that the Preeholillgs of Midalascx . hamt.soina right to have expected that the G!.: ntletueit who differad ?tool Meth iinitill have stated the gtound • of•ttheit objection. Nu 'ono hid Cue so ;• but Atm ' Gen tlent an had • citified (heir 1416114dd —at persist' .of respectability as . he utyleOtond s aft 4 'perhaps it shirt viiist'srstine that •h' sviis tillett4_ •epsainted with him ; 'but:of this he 'AI *stilted" that'the patience with' which - ,thOy hid ;lick tkok . urator to whom 'he alluded . mo..)t•toiiisi ;cod ; the opputite Party that N Ws) hillfren:persmoit Jr•inote: *Witty iittitnig thorn tti ' Itbeille their causeolley would have beet' licaril.tiltitititdntion s Ile remarked, with refethiteir to tile ollloCmihd endured by the people of t4ris ebentry;'.o4;t4ley might be condensed 'so a single oink toil • • plified by a very simple sltilli. Theitoty td =I I ' he. wished to draw theirtisttiffitiold 'vial that - oft woinan who sold cote, imi slashed them alive liii;• fore site delivered thank to her• rail others.. ' When' reproved by a.persofictoe; theta-Silty of the act ' ., • she exclainfed ) . " God' hiss yatt, sir, 'there is nothing in it—they do-not feel any pain."' Thus it was with the people, they. had been oppressed a long that their oppressors said they were accus. Wined to it, and (liar there was _no sort of np. pression but what they might patiently submit to. Who Gentleinau who had last addressed them, said, that it was peculiar to the Italians to put groans to music ; but he would tell them that it was peculiar to the Minister of our day to pre. tent their groans from being heard. They rotnindeml him of a tyrant of old who used to put his sub. jects into a br. z-m boll, nail kindling a fire under them, amuse. himself by boating the groans of the • sufferers. . Our ministry, who like Phoilares pot them into the brazen bull', stopped up its nostrils in order to avoid hearing their groans. listing pursued this figure more at large, he expressed fiii wish that the House of Combions Would come back to their proper senses, and that when they understood what were the real wishes and semi. nients of the people, they would of their own accord set about-redressing their grievances. ' , Mrs Al ALLETT ruse ht the middle of the -crowd. Ile was invited to tome forward to the place where the Shetitt's and OrMors were ; bnt he declined doing so. Ho clevated'ihimself upon a 'chair, and. the interruptio fi this occasioned pte. vented our distinctly hearing the first •part•of his observations. As be. tease at a Eontideribie dig. I tance from us, we can . sinlngire ts . stiticils of his must elm'opierst speech as• se ms could 'culler!. Ito. said, Gentlemen, I have only one or ts'a ritharik to make in answer to the Gentleman Who told yens fie load the aothurity of the 'lave and precedent its • his favou-. • I say that I perfectly coincide with the explanation given by Mr. Clifford, with refer. . ence to the reason nom which the present Petition is founded. The observations of the Gentleman. who alone has addressed you in opposition to the objects fur which this Meeting has been convened, . in my opinion amount to nothing. Gentiehmen, ' we do not %mists to take from the noose of 'Coat,: "loons Cheir..Psivileges ; neither do we wish to dr.' prive the House of Lords of their judicial rights :, ' 'we' only ask, whet their Privileges are ! We iiilfir , • ettsh to have then defined. The House of' Custi.' mons and the House of Lairds have, as well as tlott Courts of Law, their distinct Privileges ; 'lief" if' you ask Courts of Law fur the reasons upotewhieh shrir..Privilegcs are , founded, you will have' the -reltatass.for them laid before you, and you will find litiskalsey.see.ilimitest arid defined by raw. NO* sket 'relit. Priiiieges claimed by the llouso-of - ThetTrillleges II Coors/ova were granfell to then wot :t t alai fi tte l ". l , h b e t Y :t tt f e o v r the pe ve to t th.tt this trust d ttrf Privileges auld esereed ; bestow 14iise of been the rftepresen o wary. G cot n I untlerstat d of objection ag nst your late I' . . . Com" the P o f thu vacgo coot? o f WII *gain t oo us. ! , , .