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!W7 7 _ h•r:a~ai Sir .luttN Nittraat asid, his ohjettion was, that the fi,-.t.-t-ttits were not co.tecttd ettatilly, few whole bishoprica hod never holm taluel, ;mid tiothitilk, could be incite unjutit tutus to le4ve the buieuessi as k tio‘i atukid. hot ttua teas, t he would, at boom Alloture mote s elate* for equal valultion. Mr. M. 1: tiv;ge..ti.r. stated, OA hrtere the Bill . war colutaiwki. hr would wove for the meeouiit el the tirst-truite. lie uuderstood tb •re were two eatates veattd io the Cousoti...ioners, wo h .230,0301. Str laTiltat WZLl,.i.bl.l.lr .aid, hotiid nut ignow accurately how the tare amid. Mr. M. Vireos:tato auawered. that if tha' sum could not he ttecooute.; for e he would move for fur ther accounts. . . . Or. 1)v rum( tot was cattalo that the Commis. siossers would lat ready to si . %e any amount called for. _ MIPS • Mr. Vast ER sail, he anultl explain, from a stale recolleetinti, that tie eoinaaiivittatiers Were Olily vestal with a batu for hailaing The etwthwu foe tits further colibideratiou of t! e report was theu put end evert! to. ORDERS, IN COVNCIL Mr. TURA: rovv.; and oloeri ed, that as the evistenee of the ‘Vitto-Aies. last evamtneci, upon the ()Men in Council, had only been 1.61 be.ore Nfenthers this morn s :ll4. it wail inspov,itile for libw to I,:u ow with the examination of the othurs, till it had byes fully considered ; he Should therefore przePalle. " That the ()tiler of the I).it . for the fttr 'titer precettiongs relative the•etn. wbich rtouil for to-marrow. ahwald be dist har,eu, owl' post ionvoil to Mo oiay next." - - _ [:pail the que.tion being put. this way aecortl iu6ly agrt.wri to. z.tsr INDIA COMPANY. Mr. Chavt przNented a Petition faen the Unit. Ea , t, India Company, praying fur leave to prcstist a Patitioa for 11 1.0411 of .t 3,400,000. - - . This Lin reuil by the Clerk, leave was given to briug up the other Petition. which being nearly similar with the former oat, only vistyin; ia of form., was last read. lr-Gaaatt then stated. that as the affairs of the East lii4i6Coalisinv ,rare ewe wider conettler.ition of a Committee of tile Mow. he rbotrld b4:4 :c.a% r to move, " Tll4l this Petition be referred to said Co lit airier." _ . Talttoot mid. although ho. should be no. dined to bow to any rervionieudAtiou of that Com mittee, yet be e iuld not help thinking the town fair way would b.: to utter t'ais to a special Committee, as it approved to be o natio.' of very great importance. in ur.ler sweet on whether the East hada Committee were µrefasten.; a claim or a idaramod. He thought that its such 4 full investi "%diem was hairs the Hou. Gentleman who per meated this Petit:as might to have given the H us • a reeler notice of his intrusion to r !er it to the cousideration and investigation ofaCo Ha did not wish to cuter iuto toy discuss on of East I:Aia affairs at present, but be though' that when the House were to be iaduccd to agree that such a sum should be given away. the case ought not to be submitted Cr them in such a thin House. In the most common cases such notices had uniformly been given, sod was it not therefore absurd to deavette, anr.er otiler circumsbuirts, to make the Hwtzc miaction mod encourage a demand to that extent upon the patine ? Ile hoped. therefore, that a regular notice would yet he given. for hr could not so permit one shAling of his constituents to go towanle the East India Company. Ile had been formerly one of the members of dr: East India Committee, mid then thought, as he still did thick. that that Company was a monopoly that ought oat long to exist. This was a question which would yet ,care to be di. : out he could nut permit any question of this kind to go on without reminding the House • the falls Mug hopes that had been held oat, that the East udi Company would be able to assist the funds* th • country upon a future acclaims. In abet way. be would oak the House, Are City to do it? Had they any means of &Mail so wi.en such claims 1 1 1 , 14 C submitted ? The Committer now sitting won d. no doubt. make out their Report in the most Ju dicious manner; hut miles. lx bh - .UM see vouch:rs and account: laid before the in the some mariner us priest, merchants would do, wore tary submitting similar claims. and not the mere state usent ,that they had resources here an/ resources in India. he for one could not he convinced of their actual capability. flaring had access to their papers, he could not help Clinking this monopoly was a drawback to the f-eneral trod, of the coun try, by affording to the Americans to draw oil' enc half - dour trade. and tended to prevent it in future from becoming more extensive. He thon&ht it ewe, therefore. an isidispeutable duty for Ministers to inquire, whether, under such trircumstanees, they should wipes, to Parliament to renew that Company's Charter, which, according to the words of the Act, would expire in 101 l ? Ile was one of sham who would newer coosent to the renews! of that Charter for other three :sears aster that-year, providing ire had then a seat in that House. Mr. Carrie thought the House and the public were much obliged to the Honourable Gentleman who had test spoken. tOr brincint; these observa tions forward. He united with I . in ening his most dc.-. 1 ..1 oiatium. that the Eivit India Com pany could never b r a' k t o ?Tra y w h a t ns ., a d_ sauced to them by the pahlic. ri.• sum they were iaclebted to the puhhc ;errs ly, a. appeared from do ume.its, amounted to na le•s :ban three miilions sterling, anti I:e s'-onld be glad to know how they were to repay this sum. before .he Muse discussed whether they should be showed to bor row more? There seemed an ahwolote certainty of this rights bring increased, if Pa! I Ato of w. r-. inclined 1 grant them loans f-om year to year.— If it were riser at All to give the •ri.n flaw se ut ;ht for. it shouted rather 100 given a- a eift than as loan. Another cossoleration w itself, as to whether 614 M JAIN si .1' ortNtent of reavition. t;ic Act of hr It bud beru thr• nit, mon of Lord :'.: :Air. Lord Wellesley. amid (it isrrs whn - -,• fortselhotb th4t there was every el' novisieg the Aet. The E.a.t i. were sow nig nu a trade in 11.41,1 ,n.r , - .: G%evir l.ompau :tont a earpiev rtreteue it home t.% ttelann.ht oran mi tred. 'Tit trade wa, therrio v. a 10:31. , rse. liecomuin4 wore mut Triol.• •4) li11;. -.. % • i.% tt* of T.IC , tsr i:a- odia, tatSerrepadiLs of all Lic.t:-Ii •ts 1. I—tale &hese circumstances, he thought it Lenore the duty of this Convey to adopt sopie . measuces for trans- , ferring, to our own people that vast proportion of American tntdc, which WWI tunas b 0 peellklieial. It was certainly the duty of the Ilona.; to inquire into the dividends the Ummialiv were making upon zilch - stock, for it appeared, that tlwy were bor rowing money h. re and there to pay those divi dends, sehieh the law prescribed should he paid out 'of their profits. This was surely a most corny divary course proccr g; a n d, 1111:kr gut h en culastanees, the dividcods ought caber to be re titntined, or striped *lt oAether. Sir Join NEWPOUT 1:11‘1, Ile considered this as nu Upplielaiall , or a and a -, if granted, it would conic out of the funds of Ireland. tor well as of this country, he could tint help objecting to it. Ile had authority tie - saing, that ranch rhea rly , went nut of that country to the India Coninsily, withou: any possibility of it,. inhabitants deriving 1 any benefit, aersuillitg us the set oats framed. lie therefore tiought the Act in question ought to be I revised an - 1 altered. Mr. GareeT te h etered, that if he had uuderrtood it to be the custom to give a miner fur preeenthig n Petition, h • certainly should hale dime vo ; but he uudereto el the contrary to 1w the nears of limn:cut. Ile thonglit limey of the o h or made were either prenetture, u 4 they tended to the prejtubce of the Company. The advauta i ees ise cribird to th • Ainericaes in their lielian trade could not be attri .uted to any thing else but their neu trality. n was tie Amer; :aa trade to be stopped by as y of our .assurer' Even although the lodian t• to Le rendereil perfectly free, the uelvaut teem:. effeete of the! Aittel4llll neu trality woo .1 'dill remain the saute. When thi. wb~trt alt .uld mute 11l hire the I louse tOr full diveuvvion, he wauld sent ore. to say, tied the eviden a would preponderate ageinet a.iy thing alleged to the eoutrary. The Treaty of 1794 haul o wren:a much te. prevetit our ovencouneg the prarnici .us effects of America., neutrality ' l ent our trade. and it was, not theneiare the fault of the East ludi Compete to winch that American trade was to be amribtel. Ile peens. against the linove funning any premattire opitiirm upon the Com pany's atT.irs, awl thought it was calker irregular for is Me INT of that Co, ~,,, ittee to state lily senti ments More the Report of that Committee was given in. With respect to the obeevutimie made at to the Dividends. he thoovitht they were roost mischieV sus. The Company Ind already the Sane- Coot of Parliament, to prove they had a right to pier the I livelemide iu the way they del. It would, therefore, be itniiet to suspend the pa: menu of them, or to enter into any investigation of them, before the documents were la fore the Home.— Without entering further upon the rat deal, there fere, he hoped the House would be of opinion, that this Petition ought to be referred to the Com mittee up leaire. Mr. PONSOMBY said, he did not . olieet to this Petition being referred • a Committee, but he should not pledge hint elf to approve of its sub stance or matter, nor it thr decision of that Com mittee upon it. It might, perhaps, be right fur Pnrliament comuly e te• it tui, t ht be wrong ; I•ut, at ail events. it was dear, that the sum sought for was uot to b considered as n Lem, but as ■ gill, to enable the Feast India Compeny to pay their divi dends and sneport their tredit. it no doeht re quired tl.e tallest investigation ley dot oenefits, and even• information laid Cefoie the Howe. before it could he determined whether it would he w ise in ,Parliament to break, as it were, the Fast India •Compauy. by allowing their affairs to be thrown 'into ? Ile was sure of this, that a her ever the House aboald do, should Le by making such al effusion of ksiowledge of the Com pany's a fairs, us would infanta the nation as to whether it was for its advantage or hot that the Comps iy should he coutimsed. After the Report was pr,veatral, he hoped that some lion. Aleusher would .uof e for its being printed. as well as all the . docent lit- revineeted with it, iu order to enable the co eery to uadeivtatel the e i •-tion ; for really. in our et state, there simnel Is an read of all delueitia or mat:lumen*, before they vuted to that Company the sten of 2.400,0011. wrtha it knotillly whether it would render them a permaaeut and solvent Coin piely fur ft', rs,l/.1151 benefit. The CIPANCELE9r: atilt- Cm tutor ea said, that iv leerier it mieht be his fluty ta. wove tipoil the lie ! port of the Crenusitte-, mu-t depend entirely upon the state of the cue tiaoc should make oat, as to Cie film:wild roar-ern: , of tile emapaiiy. The furin of •eivitte, a meice appeared temenesary upoil bola occasion, a+ .t was barely 1.1 any poi...t of tn. .v U•rfttl the House to put the case into a Mute -f inquire It appeared in him to he :ia un necessary qualification in the Right Host. Geiftle man, rtating, that although he fleeted to tl.c re ference, he did not rnean to ear omit hensief as to hi. opinion upn t its merits, as to p rvonv could possibly commt themselves ee1.... sudi eir euumetasices. till they knew the nod! of an inroir. lie adverted to this pi-tit-Air.a2 he ass awa nisheil to tind the same CICII proceed ininsediateiy to express 33 _ asserting. etmngly eel d.ridedly, that he thou e lit it wav a gift that the Company were se.larii.: far, ex preesly for the purpose v 1 261 1114 th en . t , me e t • a ills i.letel of tee per ct nt. out of the pnelees a; th e subj ctv. It ap p eared to him taut till, as wit ir 'filar manlier of eSpre4, , ing the wale time th at t h e Ri g ht Hon. Guatleman haA mated his intention net to this se.. Was it to be seen stated in ti: .t that the Eve finha Cout;artny. so far frsisa iwii;111; this money as a isetisal!y stritei were creditor: I.: the public to a very* MI I $ anian•it tie h., tiered that is mai ffeto rally r. ft Cae.• were iteeiv tieliett <i!. of ti10:‘&4:1:1& .lettran du •1. tiv p0)::e to the Compziny. if! .in(!er titouzlit .-v he d , tl t t.l the pro .::c''. of i.tti •I. a p•ti twit t 0 th.• o tti. ~ th a t tht• e tual , t be •ou, ••,.- to the: (...“111:41•iy ft the p•ah: .. I. ,• r,f d :I.4•rt• art. ;It, !e tilr i..-•reSt of t: . :'e-'. r rrt T :I.lroter thin w Y;•C::1 zi%e .• P. 11..1- 14 1 / 4 .- •*. , to :t : ( :v to 0.4*. tiOtier given of referring a retitima upon a subject of web magnitude. • Mr. Peas/mar added, that the Bight Honour alAts tletitlettlaii had hikiindertdood hint, if lie thought he hiel espressea his opinion upon the subject its question of the propriety ur ittivroprf .1 y of granting relief. Ile hail only said, that the relief asked for appetned to be a viii, and not a loam If the East Litho Compatsy loot credit, they might borrow, like other compauies. Instead of comitio to Parliament. '1 he Company, however, with all the assistance they had received. had never paid more than 500,0001. to the public. Ile should be happy to hear they a ere able to pay their debts. :11r. TIERNEY said, that undoubtedly, seraking gettendly, the Company could not athl to their present stock, except by the act of 1798, which gave u power to theta of inating bonds to .the ' summit of two million'', for which privilege they had gi v. it up to the public an equivalent portion of their to raise their stock to the former summit. t: glare, was giving no more, but altering the mode of raising their credit, and it was also the rase in the present instance. They obli . now asked the House to alter the mode of roams two milliou four hundred thousand poundal, by way ofloan t , instead of making good their claim upon ParLatnent. He could not help thinking, that the 'Company had bleu rather' hianilv dealt with. This was not like the case of an i aid', iduttl, but of a moat ettettaive mercantile company, and no man could say abet would be the dreadful consequences to the country, should any great calamity hau.pen to them. They had a fair claim to that assiitalice which they craved, and he only wished Gentlemen to delay expressing their opinions till documents were fairly before them. What ()deuce had the Compouy comitailttd, that any one should wish to avail I •if of their miefortune, by getting rid of their charter ? He had his own opinions also upon this anhject, but he should at present refrain from expres-tog them. In point of fact, however, the ',oldie had, upon a former occasion. the ailttuta4e of an whence being unade to them by-this Company, who did not press their claims, as it might then have been inconvenient to the Government of the country ; and now when their turn came to ask for au accematolation, was it to be refused them ? lie never could consider this as an application for a gift, for if` they were doing so, it would be better the Company were annulled alto„ ether, for the public would not certainly be doing right if they acre giving a sum which they could not say was ever to be repaid. It should be ennaidered that the Company were merely labour iao melee certain cotionerciel difficulties, such as it was posslble for soy commercial meu to be in volved in. He might remind the i louse of the cage in which certain Merchants were aecommodated with Exchequer Bills, at a time when theynvere likely otheiwise to be much eadnirmared. These Bills were repaid with the advantage of interest to the public. It was therefore surely proper to give the Company a for opaortubity of explainiug their situation to the public. Mr. Poasosay, in enehnnt;etts Observed. .be had no iiitanton what err to ca.t any im=on at the Emit lads Compute, for the Atls which had been so frequently to she for Parliamei t om revistance ;he only regretted, that the itatuve of their iustitution rendered, it seemed, these ap plications frequently necessary. Sir Jon% A NSTRI:TnEII denied the East India Company had tome to beg from that Noose. "they demanded only thst which had before been repeatedly ,;ranted by Parliament, and what had lacier been attended with any inconvenience to the Ha n oi , a t l arge , sium a h ennisently serviceable to the Company. It hart been errunroutly stated, that what the house had hithetto toted. or here after might vote, had never been repaid by the Company. On what caper:ewe could such a state meat be made tot hat House, ithedit %INS grneld known that the mons leot to the Coin 'Ann theyrars 1773 and 1774, and ai r -ain in 1754, had I aid to tlrc last froctiou. Cutler these circunistancea, if the Compaay wished to bring round their con cern., and ghost their mode of to the emergencies of their eatabliphnie ,t, vve.e they imt justly eatatled to a simil ir iudul. nee by huh ainctit ? Whatever sni s ,ht be the nufavoiarable ominous entertained by many of the sfde of t to C.anipany's affairs, it certainly was mitt their f nit thy had not been thoroughly inves:igated ;oag soace. It loud been generally, he b-lieved, reported, dee the ',repent establishment of the East li.di t Com oany *ma sin unjwt moneyo!y, which it ...mid be of general advantage to the community shots d be ir aolished, as it would triad to opt at a more orneral commercial intercourse with India, loci increase oar export trade to that part of the E pi re. He altog•ether doubted the possibdity of en cre.eing the ea art trade of the countr‘, M ally part of to any eoushltrai he extent, by auty individual act of the le c osluttne. H ath respect to the import trade of the prodoce of that rouser, be enterta:aed :ether dittos-cot sentimeht-. 11c netertlielewa did not see how, a ith consisteacy or policy, the Ilouve could, in the pies.ut it.- staocr, refuse to relieve the t'ainiatily from their imeledlate ranharrss.lnent.. .1::t1 he it 3, IPA et/ - but: t PM' to that Mi. e•u! in .:e of it thus jectiam, rcs,kectiat4 the espol, :•• 1:t !a... taatia,l the au( is of the Company, wlae;aa ter they rgage for ward to demand the as. stance of Parliament ail their ehterye;:cirs. 11 however the matter shaitici he co:l.:tit:led, an all it. rent bearings, anal r all the exi-ting eite aila•taaa. as, h e w a . a re t a p, the Compsny*. C.harter mild I e co.isidered poi:• tic and spree.. y.• Mr. how tern rez-"teal th:.t there existed at present no sat AC,llo!lt,, 0: the state of lii•lia. of Co• Caa•upany had oak been betrayed by ti e r moron of th e sear IROJ-4. The built:et. a. it is called, of that was of so suiguiar a nature, th .11,a it was better for the Colop:uty there es isltel nn ...aclar accounts ha later yeara. The ace .unts ad dithied an mach, that in saute there sa , nu accountable deticiero yof mil!eaa., ant the slaole screed oly tas charm-et- a'..at fanatic's the.* midi! in general es; •I in the ere aunts or the Com pany. his profesrcil tl at le: waited with anxiety for a a senoh.te love4l 4 AM,, of their af ',oat to labour oielcr eviin,u• v mi,:e ss Heti ..f 1 17 u ~'r. L`t a atottoON. t;. o II- ,"97,07.1e Gentlemen should require that do Pest tic s *6) 1 44 lie accormamieil by &cult... Lob to ptu, e the 44, 44. tiolly of the Petition. hen the. Peution ahooki be bilo,e a l'oiniuittee, theu %instil 6e th e tun e 1a those documents. The acixiniits of L i„ Company, hr could inform the Gent:imam sty spoke lust, bud berm furnished •p IN6 tlic last y. sr , sad those of the lateot lwrioil would, in a trossh w , be completed. Frout these facto lot cou s ide je , t almost impossible to inter that the existed sty thing like ll.at prenwilitateil oonettalment siteith to Company Ilan 120•111 charge.' with ao unjustly. 14 respect to the conduct of the two Noble Lo k i, whose names hud been introdueret nets the *to te . rations of it )'ember who had addressed the Kru se on this subject, he had every rew.tin to believe th ee hadcons' noted the tette interest* or the Coases he an,i the nation. This a 1 at least taiitt have bee s ii i pprised oh, th a t uo iwrsoir* is the cumin). b a g 6•en more . . pet ha.s so anxious us they thrisiseh e , that ti c atfair should be discussed and exaoin k g to the bottom. Atter • title , aorJ. in explanation frias W. TagaNty, the Petition war ordered to be teleroi to a Committee. On the motion of Mr. FOSTER, the jtjah S ug , Drawback Bill war relict a aeceod time. Sir Alum NEWrORT said, the Billcantaintd la it bollle oltmes which were sa direct deSance of th e articles of Union. From this consideration l ee felt a stron4 objection to the further prolon4atioa of the ulijectieuat►le douse*: and had it bra the nature of the Bill to reader such clauses penao :tent, he should have the Bit his devided ne gative; hut under the present modidcation of tie spatter. he should give it no direct opposition. Alter some observations from Mr. Fonts, the Bill was committed for to•morrsw. Colour! SHIPLEY gave wiles he would ro. nbe , row move for returus of the effective strength el the volunteer force throughout the country. Sir Jose Nati - roar wished Mr. Foster would defer the consideration of his lariat-61 regularises, until the thaucial state of !reload should have heeu tic-ermined by returns, which were to be Laid before the. House. Mr. Fa Mini. slat he bad to submit to the Howse were rather :natters of regulation than tax ation, though in souse instances some small addi tions might be made to the present state of the taxation of that country. If, - however, the Hem Baronet were very aUXICKII, he weld defer Ibex consideration fora short time. The Irish Titles Bill was :ben react a third tint and lisued. Mr. 1,1 11.1111011 brought up the report of the A.. wised Tares Bill, the cossidevatioa of which wd tixt.l for Monday next. The Oder of the I).r• for tokiog intc consider. anion Mr. MGClintock's Octstana van deferied until Titonniej nett. Mr. Fens& presented certain taccooatt, par. 'neat to the oilers of the Neese. Sir Join Nowsrairr oiribod to kaow. whether Mr. Foote, loteoried to salmait tie woosideratiet of the. renewal of t►s Charter of the Bank of Imo. had t% tire Holm VII: ForTiltstated, hr could not . preciselyde. boaAite time he ishoul.t have it is hie power is bring t t let matter un.ler constderatioo, but 14 hoped *only to drew the atteutori of the linvie to that important subject.—.ldionine.l at ,E.Lgtt o'clock. THE BRITISH PRESS. I .ON DON. WEDNESDAY. Aram 7. It is a comfort to vane persons, when in ti;tresi. to 1 • srii that others are as miserable as themselvei. This sort of aympathy is not, perhaps, the m"-t congenial with gererons en usauly feeling, butt appears to be ackuowledgrd by the lttliuistc.:l IVritars in no onlimry degree. The Treasi-y Writers never craft to assure the manufacturers of Yorkshire and Lancashire. that if they sn.:er from the Orders in Council, the Americans suffer -till more from their Embargo. Like the Yscs, who asked his companion o the tenure. "Do yea think I lie upon a had arose' P' They turn a the 13 lush mei chant, and ask him, "Do you thigh the Ausericun ciporters drive a flourishing trace:" We hare carefully examined the New-York Pa pers, lint base not been able to trace in them zot:.:a of the es ils ahici, the American merchant soda san must hare suffered fleas the stagnation of Some of the London papers, however, stet.. &a: srrenty-live houses have failed in the City of !isli York. We do not Uwe, upon what authority the statement is made, nor the degree of ermlit that is due. to it. The folloning extract of a Letter from a very correspondent, datel New Ye:k, the 11 tit ut. l air s a fair view or the btatts et crim e, in tuat city :--'• The eisisaito continues, without a prospect of it• shert , F raised. 'fil e effect as yet is not generaPy vi,t`•:r ‘• thus et'). t t.uittlJer a failures base p°l• • ahitf~ is not unusual in a large coatm-rt...1 :• 10. e . .N.eu. ••• 1 .., tu:ri it is gtlivrally :t • t this SK:Asioll ;i.e ear. Every oi.c is sr... girt. the 'test nas..l fur his defak2ttott, s• wercial uil r. euil•ar,{o fara . ,..k2e, a plvi.dalc of trout le of c .. of pCnioh: all' 1 *reedit: rfleeta hare resort., t 1 and SU thar.%:•bil rat.,• iAs rJ dal! rver. ar,l A'. • Y... Itu are k fro.o it, CUIIIII .Itblic pt I ~ • e.•'