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I3tPLRI Af, P 4 RLIMENT. MAISIE OF LORLA, Mompo,T, Avant 3. The House heard fartoto . the Appeal Cause, the peke or Hansi:ton o. Rev John Scott ; Sir S. Ro. "wile ems heard for the R.spondents and the bird Ad, ware for the Appolla..t, when the farther hear ing was deferred to this day se'nnight. On 'header of the Day her the thisd reading of the Irish Custom-home F-ee Bi Lord HAWKESBURY moved, as an Amend- Meats " That the Bill be read a third time this day three seteks," which, after a few words from Lord OLDEN, was agreed t o. rhe Frogmore House Bill was read a third time, the Earl of Morton having previously siaai led Her Maksty's consent. the East India Settlements Regulation Bill, and the East India Company's Bonds Bill, were read a WO: time . The Earl of LAUDERDALE complainel that no return had yet been made to the Order for an Aecni • of the Reversionary Grants by the Chief Judges of ibe Co-rtsfol Law and Equity. To give opportunist . for that return being previously made, be now moved, !bat the crder for the second reading of this Bill be discharged, and that the Tetsuo to the order of their Lordships be forthwith made." The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he did not see how sue . A retina could be made from the Court of Chancery ; he knew of no offices in that Court which were ranted in reversion by its presiding Judge nor was tie aware by what officer the return called for could with propriety be matte. The order had not been served upon any body wise could be deemed the proper officer. If the Judge of that Court h id the power of granting places in reversion, it was unknown to him. The Earl of LAUDERDALE sa;d, the order was dire/fed to the Chief Judges in the Courts of Law and Yquity The LORD CHANCELLOR said, as to him self. it was not in his power to give any return ; as to Lord Elleidsorough. and the other Chief Judges, they were new on the Circuits, and at a considerable distance from London. Atter some farther disenssinn, in wf.ich Lora ARDEN proposed the Bdi's going into a Com mittee. . Tt - m Emil of LAUDERDALE moved. "That the older for the second re. d u ng be disc .rged, and that the Bill be tcad a erc d time on Wednesday nest." Lord A RDEN moved as .in amen.) ment, That the 8111 be read a second El:nu lc-morrow."—Oi tiered. _ _ The LORD CHANCELLOR then moved, " That the Standing Order of the Hoitse, No 61, be e.-nitde , .l in l'hursd..y nex.." 114 Lor,istiip stAt•el, that that emir', wbish ha.; been rnAJe A ce:, lull ago, required Appellant to that tiOttat: t 3 en ter into previous recognizances in the prosectrion Of Appeals, to the amount of 1001. and in the year 1780 toe sum had been exonded to .'OOl. ; not withstanding this, the number of Arceals, particu larly from Scotland, had cnnside'ably increased, so as to become a matter of serious inconvenience and complaint. He believed the cause of this was grewly owing to the comparative cheapness with which AirkHints could bring their Appeals before the Bat of th.t House. He had Ithown instances of Appeals which had beret requested to be beard upon a bye day, and yet, when the day arrived, thk re had been no less (ban an at ray 't six Datristers Al their Bar, end the Cause continued upon this sc she for nine dal . s successively. By such means the Respondents were unavoidably involved in a very considerable expense; and, Le verily be lieved, that in some cases of landed property, tins expense and delay arose from a disposition to with hold the real profits and interest of estates and money in dispute, probably for the space of se veral years. To coned these evils, the motion which he hxd in contemplation to propose, WAS to award foil costs to be paid to the Respondent, w: en the decision shoold be in his favour. After some tarsi er observations, his Lordship gave no tice, that early in next Session lie should Mang lor watd a motion regulating the payment of expense of Appeals trout the inferior Courts. The tradesmen's Assets Bill thassed through a Con:mitt r, alter sever amendments pr,posrd by the LORI) CHANCELLOR, Lords DA LE and HULL -1 ND, and the third tridirg ap pvinttid for Wednesday next. 'f:•.e Court Cat Equity bill was read a thitd time, with amendments. PiZO;'ESTANT CDUFICDLS AND CH sa,Lts. Lord ItEDESDALE, alter a kW obsersAs OnS, Moved, Thitt titere be !Aid before the 11 , ,iise, an account of the Churches and Chapels in F.;, , ,;Lind and Wales. duly consect.it.nl, :in,' in which Divine Service was petformed Accordhig to tl.e rtes and ceremonies of the Church of En . .2,l3•itt, the days wh•ri Divine Service WAS perio:lnecl, number of inhabitants in the .ever.il p.irkheii the number which such Chutchns, it:. can conveniently accommodat.., and the probable unniner of the.,e in communion with the established Church, in such pa rishes,- hc. Lord tit/LLANO inluired v.-by h s Lordship's ter- tun s..uulJ b • contiiied iu England And %% and 51..,u151 Rot include Ireland also ? Lord HELPESDALE in.wered, that this otni•- sion tram an want of di:r .::an p•,- .mo:e the welfare of c' e l'rot. st.tia Cssure• in Ireland ;!,:it he did not wis!, t hs in 5% a, *c% CTe.t.e i1d..1171011.1 dificultie: ie. thP way oht 611 accnu.L. s. tiled for. A 1.1 t! n e T. on con• :a.d with thal c.• -!ry, !,"' 011 :11_: d ra have c ~•1 sen, E- 4i !e. , he v...-;; !!,.-.', .rf , :ti v•riery ; 7.:11-•;:s cr,v p. r.‘TY some stilucciLicnt r.l rrn L ti,Hl. 3 111 U C • .'ITCh •". 13 Wcre :11 j it Ate of Ahlrloti• pat ist . .l. - n w. r, provided nirh lirq,trNt plArr p t•) they could ret. , l•t. Tln c • wen. re t ! !,,; J • 111.ude as 'Trill:lZ.l the .s lure I b-t hr sit n:thl • . tr. rest 7Vi thf diuiwrl sul•jrft et irtiuil .•!:d to Ilt• rtr 4 rd. • tr.; of the :inter Ki, g• irnmrwidtely Ire 1 . Ate Any *oaks to his ntetion being eitentled to Ireland, as well as England and Wales. His object at pre sent in soaking this motions was Principal' to turn the attention of Parliament to the subject I not ex po:ling that an ingeiry of this important sad osten sive nature could be effeaually entered upon this Session, but trusting, that during the interval be tween this and the next Session, the Noble Lords, and the Government of the country. would be more excited to tarn their attention to the subjelt, so as to be better prepared. and with the aid of the return that might be made, to enter into a serious investi. gation on a subject so materially conflated with the interests of the Protestant Established Religion in this country. Lord HOLLAND moved as an amendment. " That the account of Churches and Chapels should include Ireland as well :is England and Wales." The LORD CHANCELLOR said. he could not but applaud the object of this motion, and heartily wished its accomphshment ; at the same time he dount7d the expediency and prafticability of taking any step towards it in the present S-ssinn of Par liament. He, therefore. wished that the Noble Lords who had moved and proposed an amend ment to the motion. would, for the present. consent to withdraw it ; but, at the sans, time, considered what they had stated to be of the nature of a no tice, and that they would feel tiemseives pledg d to take up,the subjeet, and bring it in a tormaishape before Parliament, early in the ensuing Session. Lord HOLLAND replied, that ne should cer tainly concur in any motion tending to lay before Parliament full information as to the state of the Churches, &c. in England, Wales, and Ireland, and in Scotland also, hot that he did not consider him self bound by any pledge, in consequence of any thing that had fallen front him, to bring forward a motion of this sort. • Lord REIIESDALE said, that the motion he bad brought forward was with a view to expedite the business at an early period of next Session. He should, however, adapt the hint of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, and by consent of the House would withdraw his motion for the present. The first objed of consideration with regard to Ireland, would undoubtedly be to testore the churches already founded there, a greet proportion of which, he was sorry to say, were at present in a state of ruins. Viscount S I DMOUT CI said, he rejoiced in hear ing the motion which had just heel made by the Noble and Learned Lord, although for prudential reasons it was withdrawn for this Session, particu larly as it would be difficult to make the retain required without the authority of an Ad of Parl:a m.ttit ; a sup jed more seasonable, or oue of higher importance, could scarcely be brought before ear lwatent. He had, in common with many others, felt it to be a great and eztring evil, that there were not places of worship neatly sul:ient to meet the increased population of the nati.n. In this great metropolis there were mmy distri&s deticietit in this respect, and even the churches now eroded were sadly Walltißg in accommodation to the poorer classes of the criminality. Time proprietary (2:14- pets Were founded, and necessarily !minded upon a principle of self•interest, which tended to exclude the poor ; and indeed it was difficult to find our religious edifices adapted to the true principles of the Protestant Commt.nion, where all tanks were invited to join together in one com mon worship. He trusted, however, that these evils would be investigated, acd a remedy applied to 'these deteds, in the course of another Session of Parliament. The Woellen filanuradurers Penalty Suspension Bill, the Coffee and Cocoaanut Duty Bill, and the British Fishery encouragement Bill. with several private Bills, were forwarded through a Committee. The City of Dublin Paving Bill, the Postmaster's License Bill, the Public Aceoustents' Balance Bill, the Scotch Parochial Schoolmasters' Bill, and the Dover Pilot Bill, which had been brought up from the o , mmons, were each read a first time. Adkiurned• _ ..r 'iv r:.occ Iter;Pron.l dorm. (1' other' wi. , )r, it rtin:e in ed $ be: upon do Ot sroun,is HOUSE OF COMMONS. The Dover Pilot Bill was read a third time and passed. Three new Members took the usual oaths and their bCjti • Mr. DEN I' gave notice, tbat he would, on Wed• nelday next, move for leave to bring in a Bill re .,:t Rini; the regulation of Eleetions for Members to se: ve in Parliament. Mr. 1-1.,b110u,e btought up the Consolidated Funds B li, winch w.s regd a first time, and ordered to be ;:.1.1 a sezoni time tu-morrow. The House went into a Committee upon the Salt Ails, sod a Resolution was agreed to for the pro hibition of the exportation of Salt, of the manufac ttzt.: c•f Gteat Br:tain and Ireland, from Ireland to Nev. toundland, except in vessels of 80 tons burden and upwar ds. The Report was brought up, and a fiili ordered pursuant thereto. !louse went into a Committee of Ways and 1 1 / 4 1,.:ths ; when, upon motion of Mr. HUSKISSON, the sum of 4,500,0001. was ordered to be raised by xclietluer Bias; and 500,0001. by Treasury Bills, tor the servi:e of the current year. The Report was orthred to be received to-morrow. :sir. 1 lUSKISSON obtained leave to bring in a Bill for the granting further time for the purchase of Warehouses on the legal Keys in the port of I ..)adon: Report of the Committee on the Malta Li ren Cdl w.ls brought up, and the Resolutions read an! agreel CO. 11 , e Linc ',Drawback Bill was read a ti::.e and pulsed. _ 17v0:, :he order of the day for going into a Com apoo the Swedish Herring Importation Bill, heing ..d, Sir Sinclair presented a Petition from certain alrcnturers in t.,e Herring Fi.hery, residing at C ti:hayss, a z ;airht the Bill.—Ordered to lie on the table. 1 . 11 Olen went into a Committee upon the Bill, and tha H Ba.nitet s ai.l, it was not his in tration t: , r Bill in its presnit stage. but s:.uuld take An orro to ity of doing so in its future pro, ress. lt , :s:tlutions were then read and agreed tn, anl the Lieport ordered to be received to-morrow. The siik lyn x n:11 ali3 committed, and or d.reci to be red to-mwrow. The Woolwich Paving Bill was read a third time and passed. The West India Produce Au.hon Doty Exemp tion dull was read a second time, and ordered to be committed tis.morrow. Th e s ecret! , y at War presented certain Accounts relating to the exrnstb, allowances, &c. of Army Agents, their names, &c. pursuant to order.— Ordered sislie on the table, and be prlnte 1. The H o suie we It into a Committee upon the Royal Military Canal Bill, and Mr. FUi.LER propo.ed clause for all .wing certain persons compensation for Tythes, which were lost by the oprrition of this Act. Fhe.,clatise was negatived without a division, an I the other 1:. solutions read and Agreod to, and the Report ordered ti lit received to-marrow. A Wssagt from the Lords acquainted the House that their Lordships hid agreed m the :items Leone Transfer Bill, .sod sum.: private Bills. Mr. liobltouse brought up the &Fort of the Smuggling PreveiMon Bill. The Kesolutiois were read an.l agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be read a this d time on Wednesday next. Mr. BARHAM postponed his motion relative to the delivery of ‘Vrits, until to morrow. FAST INDIA ACC MN IS. Mr. CREEVE4 pursuant to his notice. rose and said. the nbjesi of his motion was to have the East India Accounts laid before the House in a different form from that in which they now w,re. la their present form. it was imp .ss'.ble that any Cling could be better calculated to keep the House in the dark. 'they were now made up in rupee , : and pigod.ss ; whereas, it they were made up in British currency, they would be easily comprehended. And he un- derstood that it they were made up in that way, upon the ezzess of the revenues in civil and military charges, there would appear to be a deficiency 0: about two millions. He concluded with moving, " there be laid before the House au Estimate, in British Currency, of the probable Revenues and Charges of the East Indies, including the Supplies to Bencoolen, Prince of Wales's Island, and St. Helena, for the Year I do6-7." Mr. bUNDAS had no objection to the motion ; but it did not appsar to him to be necessary to put it in a different shape from that ut last year ; which WAS made out in tile customary manner. Atter a few words horn Mr. CREEVEY, the motion was agreed to. INTERFERENCE OF MAGISTRATES WITH LI CENSED VICTUALLERS. Mr. SHERIDAN prefaced his observations by reading the Petition he had the honour to present on behalf of the Publicans of the cemnties of Middle sex and Surrey. It contained the strongest reasons for the measure which he was about to propose to the consideration of Parliament, and rendered it unnecessary in him to make further observations. The Petition complained of the insecurity of the property of Publicans, the oppression to %Audi they were subjected, and the iu.a.levacy of the Court of King's Bench to atf red relief. In the present stage he considered it unnecessary to say much. He had inquired and looked into the circumstances con nected with that trade, nod he was prepared to prove cases of the most intolerable ha' dittos). ; and which, if once known, he was convin..ad the feel ing of Parliament would be to provide the proper remedy. Upim the seioind reading, he would prove to the conviction of the House, the existence of this most crud and griading oppression, where the property, the bread, the dependence of respeitl able tradesmen, and thou numerous lansilies,depend• .d nor only upon the secret el. cision of Magistrates, but frequeutly upon the private will of one or tn.., of that body. Ore object of the dill. which Le asked for leave to bring in, went only to tire exant of direCting Magistrates to state their decisions in open Court, and empowering the parties aggrieved to have the benefit of an appeal to the Court of King's Bench, or to the Qrarter Sessions. In call ing upon the interference or the Lcgislature, he was convinced that the Magistrates themselves, and here, without any invidious distindion, he brgged not to be supposed as confounding the respea *We. patriotic. and truly useful Country Magi stracy, who performed gratuitously the duties of their office. with a paid pnlice establishment, com posed too often of the servile tools of a corrupt Mi nistry, would feel peculiarly gratified in being treed from this arbitrary discretion. He then moved for leave to amend the 3'2.1 of Gen. 111. with respea to the granting of licenses. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought it was imperative on the Right Hon. Gen tleman to state the reasons for the measure, on a motion for leave, rather than on the second reading of the Bill. If oppressions existed, or if there was proof of improper condua in Magistrates, the Court of King's Bench was the proper place for the dis cussion, where the redress or tire injury arid the due punishment would follow. He considered it rather going to an improper extreme to charge with cruelty or oppression. or to speak in such brush terms, of a judicature establisnment, which, al though paid, had yet under its care the peace and tranquillity of the metropolis. He wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman, whether it was proposed to confine the operation ot the proposed Bill to the counties of Middlesex and Surrey, or whether it was to extend over the whole country Across the table, Mr. SHERIDAN said. si I will tell you presently."—(4 hargh.) Mr. SHERIDAN replied, that lithe Right Hon. Gentleman had attended to the allegations of the petition, which he had teal, he would have found that nue til tar great evils complained of, and which his proposed bill went to iemedy, was the inade quacy of the Court ot king's Beach to afford relief, where proof of wilful rilflo mow cauld not be made out by the publican wbu appealed, and where the injury was committed against him from caprice, inadvertence. or political bias. When he observed that he would answer the Right I lon. Gmtlernan's question. as to the extent ot the measure, presently. it was not out of respell that he then declined ex planation, but because he Lad not derided fully or on that point. Originally he did n t ',uprise t extend it beyond the counties of Middlesex and Surrey. but he had, in the interniediate period, r.- carved numerous mannauiticatioili, proving the ne cessity of its extension throughout the country. — But the objedians of the Right Han. Gentleman were not to the extent s but to tie wtio:e prinwiple of the Bull itself. He (the Chancellor of the Ex cheque.) was astonished At the manner in winch ths establishment of the hired hingisarmy was %Haled to ; a Judwature, forsooth, sanetioned by PAti!. mem ; but sanitionod, the House wield rezollel under a strong influence of *lowly and suspici, i ,: Therefore, when it was attempted to convey to th e House. that these paid Magistrates mere upon the same grounds as the respellahle Magistracy ot country, the Right lion. Gentleman certainly ',17, got the nature ot the proposition which the Pol.c t Aet carried into execution. The Marquis of TI ITHFIELD was happy t) bear testimony to the condo& ot the Magi sttatr . ot the County of Middlesex, of which he was Ltd Lieutenant. He knew that mane co m pl a i n " sa ide on the chary of a bias is the withhol Jing Lic•rses ; bat. in the cases he inquired int), believed the pail Police Magistrates did ri.lt teeters-. Mr. STURGES BOURNE wished to wh ther tie pr posed Bill went to the gr,intia ; Licenses, or merely to redress where there was 4 suspension of the otiginal grant ? Mr. S'i It does not interfere o':;1 this right of the MaAistrates with mina to an ginal grant, but merely to provide Licenses, sr11:!1 were once granted, from being improperly with. hel,L" Mr. ASIII.EY COO PER—" Sira rise only to ask singlc question-11 *es the Right 1-ln Mmtse, mean that hil Bill siiutiLl extend to SurreT and ?" Ii .SIIER ID A N—s , With submission, the H. Meinis hit asked twa questions, ai 1 mit o ; but I will answer with the same htevity with w t.idt he puts them—l mean the Bill to mitteail to Surrtr, and why not i" (4 geftr.;l t,bgh.) Mr. COWER-0 Nir, I am a Maitre fs Surrey, and I see no reason for coo?! Surr:!• with Middlesex, and thereLnd 0bj..1.:: to :lie in..o vation." Mr. SHERIDAN—a Sir, am also 4 il d o; 4 . trial for Surrey, and 1 a•ttnpt: no ir-or ;t '1;1 n• it the worthy Magistrate wdl holt to thr pose to amend, he witl ti::d th4t Barry 4r ..1 dlesex are therein coupled, diatin3ui>hed tmn ail other counties in England. Mr. A. et_inkt —•• ii r, I was not aware ni that circumstdnce, and it certain!y al er. th- Mr. Si lElill);01—••Th: d rsouraY2 candour does him crelit, ao.l hereto.: I to ,; regret his ignorance of t!.a dCI iie Lyon it." MILITIA ENLISTMENT SILL. Lord CASTLERE.IG m:y •dth- rf day for taking into furth2r conider.t .i!,:•.a Service or Enlisttnemt Lord H. PE t "n o rrunity f c r•s. tioning the Nosle L ird as to hi. intent:les Ann ie• gat-J to the 'Vrainiag II:II. llc wilted to I!- stand whether it was ',deeded tirelle to Bill, by bringing, in a new one, or tn:rely to an amendment upen it ? Lord CASTLEREAGH answered, that it %vas his inteation to propose aa ariarriiiiment t' it. Mr. WM IlititEskl) observed, that the Howe would recoiled how the N ibis Lard had been good as to entertain them by ridiculing that Bili, giving them a history of the proUble coatlut of co .:tabus of parishes, and telling them th..t it was impossible that a man could he trained e.e., such assistance; he should he glad to know country could be put into a proper state of defence. at a time wilen the Noble Lord himself bad C.- unified it u being in a forlorn acid coatentptibla situ mon e Lord CASTLERE AGA replied. that he should be extremely anxious to state more fully his re.sons upon this susjeaa, when the matter was more imme diately under their considerati•in. On the motion being put tram the Chair— Mr. FRANKLIN rose. and, at considerable length, strongly objected to the principle of the Bill. He had little expectation of its wee's. He could not have conceived that any measure of this kind could have been in coutempletien of Minis ters, as there had been no intimation whatever conveyed through any authentic channel to ete Militia Officers. as to their intentions, nor had there been any regular or timely intimation afforded to the I-1 use ItSeli. This WA, not only a s sijesa of coniplaint, but of very serious complain', as he knew that many persons coaneael with that species of force, finding nothing ot this kind I.kely to come forwa. d, nor any intimatiou given of it its the e.rly part of the Sessiun, had now dispersed thems• Ives over the country, and who ere no: likely to be pre sent at the discussion of a subject of the utin. , s; im portance. He hLI to complain too that the Noble Lord had, in the first opening of his project, hi. ted at probabilities, and ezmessed dounts as ti would he his concludons. Had the Noble Lord been more early in his intimation, or Mare explicit in his detail of the g neral principles of the met- Etre, he was convinced that many 11 , 11 Gentlemen would have deemed the matter so impertant, that they w told not have left the lipase at such a time, had they thought that a measure of this sort west., be brought forward. The Noble Lord had shewa such a degree of hesitation and dtioiety as to the Bill which he himself had brou3ht in, that he (Lord C.) bad aduelly introduced an am:ndinent in the Comm,ttee ; it was perhaps the most imPor ant feature in the w'nole Bill itself. That chow went incidentally to disturb that system, whieni if it was to be disturbed at all. ought to have disturbed openly and directly; ai..d. therefor., i. • hid to complain, that the principal pact of Bill had not been introduced in a clear and - find manner, so as to give to the public a not. .• • of what was about to be dcie. He was anxious state his sentiments upan this matter, at a time whorl the Bill had been altered and amended. Ills ()like ti ill to the measure was, that it traded to disroei rage the Maliaa service. .1 measure, which, it Lew snry, ougnt not to hare been introduced incidentally - . Snell a measure ought to Lye been brought for ward A: a great feature of general policy, teil adapted for the goof of the country, and grnwoi out of the new state of Europe, and iif ten-selves ; bitt instead of this, it had been merely introduced. co!lati-rally and incidentally, as a measure of expe diency. He could not entertain those favourerle sentiments which lie might have done bad it bas brought I inward As A great military measure, Calttl lited /.0 correspond with the urgency of affairs -- Tile Militia re-girnents had alvantages which n regiment of the Line had, and were better cake! ted for the t hee; bi w 4 p for orn o word s)11 1 to Lle M ,c co-nqlo t i .1,1111 0 ! :I'r Such w da aft therw h th' cot it two T and trAC p•inci; • ' • `lv. : al 1.c . 1 01 lr et th vicrl) r, ion this rt cousti I.le w ald the L ge•CL ii ms CeS , I st.t:t *Sy sib , • t tl 3IT tent fa'lo fi st aim curt Re;