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.. + . } bsieerable policy ; and since ley return. a assert view has I not enabled me to they witty opinion. Diming some lime Past, the measures of the present Administration teem to Osve bees' equally directed against our coned dot Ma, the voice of the people, and the dictates of ordinary wisdung.—(aeor.) The peace which ere hive enjoyed (tor 'eyelid years hat bee* of no ow or adviutage. Nome of the consequences bad fol lowed which the tattoo had a right to expect.—(LlVerobenr.) —Their foreign poke, had been to despise our commercial lute-rests, and to oppose the doctrines of freedom Wherever they •ppearfd. Thee had ceded Parrs, Genoa, and Saxony ; •ad 'they had behaVed towards the Spaniards. Portuguese, ud Neapolitans, as if they detested the liberties of the free people whose affairs they manage4l.—(ifeoz.henr.)—Recently the Ministers hail sheeu their afftetton for the people of this cumuli y by angmentiag the national hardens, and by allure yarding the petitions of a distressed and reined people. They did not even express regret when they heard that he people had been slaughtered by their frllow•eiliaens. They hail ttempted to pour the balm of sympathy and kiridnese - among them. Thus by irritation on one side, and It.Ffrisigs on the other, the penpk were to lie separated from .e -,r superior*, gold instated by then,. And any intlepen di of or kind stolividual, elm dared to attempt to allay the iorlimmation by mixing with the people,might look at Lord itzwillianst, and read his erne fate in his.-.(Heer, issar.)— Lately, when the people saw the unmanly and ungenerous v ~,,, !net which was pursued towards an unfortunate Queen • — ( Noise)—they were led to coediting' universally the dn. Jock of Ministry on that occasion. That coustry has not been complimented upon that noble exprestien of true Eng- Vail anal gentlemanly feeling, but hare been called together to condemn it as irreligious and seditious; and the people have been accused of want of attachment to the King mid Conatitation, in Church •nll Slate, merely becamee they will nut retrain silent spectators of IM insults which the Minis. by are offering to the King—to religios—and commie • Jemmy, and to the ruin which they are bringing upon the ionsitry.—(Hear, hear.)-oThe Address Mentioned that we ought to rely upon the econ o mical views of the present Ministers; but had not the petitions of the noinufacteren, of the agriculturists, std of the merchants, been disregarded, and not swears recommended to the notice of his Majesty ' But we must sow have better security for economy and re seencbmeot thou the promises of the present Ministers, and he thought that the Address gave no sufficient soisfaction stn that important subject. He thought, however, that it eras mammoth moderate and candid, mid was highly credits h'e to the itopporters of Ministry, as well as to the Hon. Mover himself. Mr. Maxwell here read an amended Ad dress, which embraced the seutiments he had expressed. Mr. Seetis, of Fideislie, stated, that he had lived lon • to the county, MO wished well to kg interests, and to all the Gentlctrien arousid him, but he must differ with some of them upon the present occasion. He slid nut think that their repeated Addresses of Loyalty were necessary, or •t all cJled for by the circumstances of the limos. Although the Learned Judge (Succoth) did nut live so much in this county ne lie did, still he must know that the people of this comity, although miterahle, deserve to be applauded fur their prevent exemplary conduct. When the state was in danger, the people had always come forward to defend it. They had never gone wrong when nut excited and misled by the :Award sad dangerous system of the prevent Administra tion —(ffenenedienise.)—They bad &limited their meetings quietly, although th y were telling his Majesty of their actually sterving condition. And hail curicilmtion and cirroloor been used, instead of irritating insults and spies, he firmly believed that none of them would ever have cm broceil 11111.011•ilitlii011111 opinions. As to how they were to is tidy their grievances, there had been now six years of 10ve..., end three was no symptom of economy yet visible. But tax had been added to tax, misery to misery; and they hail been depriaed of several of their old constitutional rights. The method of persecuting the Canton laid been most nescoustitutional.—[Mr. Wes Fulton. here interrupted the speaker by calling" Vote,rote," and insisted t h at he had a right to ;invent him Irons speaking on such topics.j—Bat . Mr Spears was c on to proceed, and stated, that thei only occasion which could at all justify an ex pod facto. law, wax the case or employing it against the Miniskirt' themselves. The Learned Lord must admit, that they els deavnered to tun down the nearest relation of their Stave. reign, and offered to prove, by green bap, what the eel. Mono 'mold nut support; and he was quite sensible, that Lord Succoth would lee! ashamed of what might be considered as • disgrace to the lowest Attorney. The Gentleman concluded by seconding Mr. Maxwell's ,mended • !dress. Professor J . tr, of Glasgow, listended to the observe. toms which had fake from the Member fur the county, sod was hippy to find the language not merely fluent, but ea prisiotee uf great depth of thought. He differed, however, both from the sentiments and manner of the last speaker. They bail both tlldeSlMUrrli i 4/ throw all the blame ian the devoted heads of the Ministers of his Majesty. —(Spaplones of disapprobation ) Lord SOCCoen said, that such • noise was quite irreest lar, and that they must be turned out if it be continued. B..ih sides must be allowed to state their opinions freely.— (Hror, hear.) Ur Jsrrsax now proceeded, and apprehended that hli "Hoerr were not to blame fur the present state of the coun try. Ministers were Hot, sagely, to be blamed fur entering into the war with France. At Paris it bad been announced that they were at war with all kings and goverment's, and that they most employ their armies beyond the frontiers; otherwise they would be lunged upos themselves. On the 3d February, 1793, France first declared war against Great Biding', and Britain was thus forced in self-defence to arm against the enormous power of France. The expense of this lung coolest bad been heavy, but lie contended, that Minis ters had atone their nomot to stop the war—the tense of that heavy expense. But this had been tried iii vein, even by the very piety who are now so forward in their accusa tions of a produce,' expenditure. Lord Lauderdale bad tried it, and had been sent upon an embassy fur peace. But lie -as nut admitted to the first Minister, far less to Bona. pat le, a tau left Paris without seeing Lord Lauderdale. His Lordship returned, and was very genera ly laughed at. He evidently:l, therefore, that the enormous expense of carry mg on this war was the price of the salvation of our fiber tie,, properties, and lives.-o(Ifeor.)-111inisters bad sheen their wish to economise, by striking off seveuteen milhoaa, of taxer, by reducing the army mid navy, which many thought to be too far reduced--( Laughler)—auel by alto. liiii.sig several smeenre places.—(fleur4—They could nue, eudeed, cast off holders of places by patent,' but they boik.l bean-bed every turner to find out places that might be gle• doted —(f/ear )—He did think that we could aunt my • much, about the Queen ; that business was out yet ended, and they could not vet make up their opinion. Mr. SIMIRS, of ilderslie, explained, that it was not the Viaistry who took off the seventereu millionv, but the lift.: pie l'aiough their representatives, of whom lie wait then one. —(Criss of i Mr. It. G. Sense. *demote, said, dant lie would not wil lingly have obtruded himself upon the meeting. but he could not think of leaving his character open to any memo. per Itiiiittest 1011 P, by giving a silent vote uu the question stow before the meeting. Hr viewed the Adders, first read not as • mere declaration of our attachment to the Mssuarchy and Cutpilitulion, but ass support to the present Adestai au atom, by chsrging the pmple with offences which were nut true, and of which no proof was brought. He was no opponent to that part of OM Constitution—the Monarchy-- which hinds and temeots the rest together. Ile should be happy at all alums to express his attachment to the King and Coustitution ; but he thought it but a pour compliment to • the C,ottstittroutt, that wbeuever its excellencies and glories wine tinseled, the disloyalty and sedition of the people who keep it up should be uodurinly added. —(Hear, Aeor.)—The people who were now &hosed said chaeged with a tendency to receive disloyal said seditimis opinions, or to be ensiled by tie teachers of these doctrines, are the people who lavished their blond doting the war to which the Learned Profeseur had alluded, in defeace of their King and country. Hes Oita hooky and attachment lo their couutry vanished into an empty manse? He saw no reasons fur entert•iniug such an oprunio. It etas said that there were teachers of sedition said blesperensy moos( the people; but in what district dud they ply their art, and rune were their followers' It was well kaowis that there existed soothing of that soil, mid mg promo in this meeting could prose that there did. Eerie supposing that there were teachers and bunks of the ter rible demrsptiou alluded to, 1 think, said the Learned Gen- • . Item's, that the good nose of the inhabitants of this eon - ' try is such as to enable us to congratulate each other that they are not to be misled by the basest falsehoods or the grossest immoralities—(Haar.)—But 1 may be here asked the question, is there no discontent in the country? I do not deity the existences( discontrot, bill preen Lead I appeal to all who now hear me) that it is only discontent with the Ministry. And is my humble °onion, - discontent with the measures of his Majesty's Ministers, taws attachment to the King and Constintion of the country.—(told cries of r." Now, Agar")—A Juryman, is any ordinary can, must have evidence before be etta declare thee the charge is proven. Bat it seems., that in the important question of informing I the Sovereign of the sate of the country, the people are to be aniseed without any proof at all. We must have ni ldeuce, individuals mast declare what they know, or we shall be is the situation of perjured Jurymen. He did not deem it accessary to follow the Learned Profeenor into the origin of the French war; though the commencement of that war arose more froth the dispute, whether M. Cherwell° Innen be received es the Ambaseadow of the people of Franey, than from the reasons which the Learned Professor gave. There were two nuns which operated in keeping pure the Mean =ado-no was internal approbation, nod the other was the good opinion of our superiors. Now, he trusted that no Addressor no Ministry would ever be able to ex. tinguish the former; but be thought that passages like thew in the Address moved by the Honourable Pones, did tend to rub the people of the good opinion of their superiors, and thus tp diminish the excitement. to order and virtue. Loyalty must be estimated by truth. Public opinion, which in a free country supports every thing, is totally adverse both to the men and or.tent of the present Adattinistra se. And if this truth be not stated, the Gentlemen who coined it must answer for the consequenese.—(lioar, Suer. Calls of " rote, Address or Amendment.')—The Learned Gentleman sat down by supporting the Amendment. Lord SUCCOTH begged lea. to submit to the tweeting • few observations on the two Aoldrenes. When the first 0111 was read,. he hoped that it would have been unanimously adopted ; and he could not have cnticipated any difference of opinion. There was nothing said in this lust Address, whether one art of measures ought to be adopted or not, and or) approbation expressed of his Majesty's present Mi. roisters. His Lordship stated, that Mr. Spelt's, of Elderstie, bad maunder/dotal his expressions. Ile never said that Mr. Spelt' would pronounce any inflammatory speeches. His interest in the county, imil his good sense, would ender that impowible ; but any person who encouraged large eon. vacations, could never be perfectly aware of what might be the nature and tone of the proceedings. He was most friendly to Mr. Speirs, and had the Mistiest regard for him. (Mr. Spears here said that he was satisfied.) The Learned Lord then observed, that the first Address, from which he now intended to read some passages, was couched in language S. moderate, that he hoped it would have prevented all dim coos aon —( Near, heir)—Gentlemen mightdiff to the con duct of the present Adminietratio•. It was a fair subject fur difference of opinion, and might be most conscientiously maintained; but there was nothing in this Address which contained nny opinion upon that subject. The only qua.- lion now before them was, whether it was our duty, in the present perilous times, to rand up a loyal and duti ful Address to his Majesty l He had seldom seen any Address so moderate. No person, surely, could object to du all that this Address asked. It merely called epee the martinet° support the King in hie constitutional authority. (His Lordship here read a passage from the beginning of the Adder*s to the above import, and did sot read the insi nuations against the press and loyalty of the people, bat parted on to that part of it when economy is recomraendedi This Address, said his Lordship, farther recommends to his Majesty economy and conciliation; it alludes with deep concern in the extent of our natural. burdens—it says, that " the British Crown is held ib trust for the people" —it prays that those burdens may he reduced which fall heaviest on some of the people, but press severely on all. Three burdens, he thought, ought to be reduced as fir as possible for the safety of tie country ; but we were not to re the length of endangering it. Fru nomy, . which has always been a favourite subject with some of the genilenien wear him, is included withal this Address, and atrougly recommended. Ile now thought that he had read every part of it—.[Lord Succoth laid it down on the tablel—T He must admit that Mr. Maxwell, the Member for the county, was a very fit and proper person to have bees con. stilted with in preparing the Address; but he was sure that uo penned feelings +mold enter into the mind of that Ho. nourable person. Mr. Maxwell, however, did admit last year, that there was a dangerous. spirit, mochas it was ne cessary to take measure. to repress. His Lordship did out contend that that spirit existed sow to the same extent ; but he cannot carry his ideas the length of believing that it is altogether extinguished. The country was now better than it had Item; but it was not to be expected that these etch ing suit dangerous doctrines could at once be eradicated. (Mar, hear )—Ahlsough he was willing to admit that there were only a few busy in exciting seditiou and blasphemy, yet he thought that the exertions of those few might be dangerous, suit that all ought In lake effectual measures to repress that spirit. Now, let es turn to the Addressee which have beta presented to her Majesty.—(Hear.)—Of her guilt or innocent- he would not venture to speak, as he had nut read the evidence. But he knew that a great number of those who had voted against the second and third reading, did mot do it man the grossed of her innocence, but on ac count of the mode of trial adopted. The Queen has been made a point to bring out the discontent, and It cannot be disputed that that use has been made of the trial by violent and disaffected persons. la the letter from Sir M. S. Stew art, a person whose private virtues and public opinions all know and value, and whose abilities claim for his opinions the highest consideration; this able and patriotic Geode man expressly says, that there is mischief lurking at present in this country. He spoke, therefore, upon no light 'mho. nil, when he rested upon the statements contained in that letter, where the excellent and worthy Baronet speaks of that spirit and of the mischievous Addresses to the Queen in the same language as he was now using. But the Addresses to the Queen were Hui all. He must look alma to the an swers which have been made to these Addresses. They ate of the same description with the Addresses, and of the most dangerous and improper nature, and such as he could sot poasibly approve of. I look to these Addresses and Auswers, and I, raid the Learned Judge, awl convinced that the trial of the Queen has been tagged to the spirit of disaffection, an order to rake up that spirit, and tiring it again into ape- L /Nuns. It lies been said that this Address has been got op to support a tottering Administration; but where do the Geis tlemen find in this Address any expressive of approbation or ilorapprobetion of his Majesty's Ministers?—(Hear.)—And the Gentlemen seemed displeased that the Ministry was rot to be dismissed. But this Address had nothing to do with Admiuistratiou ' but merely to prevent and counteract ouch Addresses •s had been sent to the Quern from Man chester and other places. lie certainly would nut concur in any motion fur lie removal of Ministers, and he did not think that this meeting would. But the original Address is calculated to keep clear of that question altogether.— '(Meer, hear )—Tbe ongiaal Address in fact takes their own favourite objects out of the hands of the Gentlemen who are . opposing it.—(Hear, hear )—But Ihese Gentlemen notelet] that the present al inistry will never carry into effect any of these porpoise, and that there is something so coulaminat. log in every thing that comes from them, that even Reform untold be treeless, as the boon of the present Admiaistration. —(Dear, hesr.)—The &Ince of that Admiuistration was not the proper (Pintos's herr. But if atiolibrr meeting was p called for that purpose, he and many others lied uo objec. tios• to compare it with Rey other. Notwithstanding the obloquy which these Mil o l ~, y have received, they have abo bawd several sinecure places; fur which, however, the Gen. tlensen will vellums not thank them.—(A looph.)—The Fs. Committee was nut opposed by the Ministry. Minis try had also been fund fault with fur conduct shroud, even . is Spoils suit Portugal—Write of a No, so," from, Mr. Max we(!) —but there was certainly nu foundation for that accuse. lion. The ear its Spun was undertaken to drive out French principles, mud they were driven oat. No permits surely hire well plead for French principles, or for Bonaparte, the greatell despot that ever existed. This war in Spain had ben successful by the wisdom and vigorr of the present Ministry. He thought that the speeches of the Gentlemen were anon exceptionable than the soiraded Address. The Addi nen appeared to be nearly the same. But the Getitle- .ea bad endeavoured to snake their 'speeches Order by attacking the Mliaistry. Mr. hlassram. explained, and adasitted that he ,had re ceived a mote from Mr. Muir, who . offered a visit, which be was obliged to decline *oat domestic circumstances, and he had sever sees the Mikes, of the Honourable Chairman. liut why, said Mr. M, were not my filen& cossulted as to gimletr they had altered their Myatt,' ? It had been "fit only to a few known adherents to the Administration; it was not lest to such as were knows to dislike the present system. This convinced him more and more that the eni gmal address was in reality an approbation of Ministry un der the spurious pretext of npproaehisg the Throne with de. claratiuns of loyalty sod attacbmeut. Perhaps this might be more apparent before the meeting was finished. He saw the intention of it already, bat more discussion would make the matter plainer. As to the allusion which the Learned Judge made to some of my opinions last year ' I have bail no occasion to alter those epiglottis. I stated that misgo vernssent, and the consequent misery and suffering which the people , endured, and spies, and placards, had made a portion of them disaffected. But the people now see that these attempts only strengthen the hands of the Ministers, who are the source of the greatest part of their evils. The disaffection has now attacked its proper object, and the people now feel only complete and genuine dislike to the present Administration. Mr. Cunsliwooltess said that he 'tell bimwlf constrained to address the meeting at the present oceasiuse solely by . the speech ratite Learned Judge. After what thst-Houoar able person had said, and after some communications which had bees that day made to the meeting, it wonld he wrong either to ray or to think that every person *leer supported such Addresses as the present did so from party motives; hut no courtesy would prevent bins (rum ;raying, that the mails object of the great majority of the promoters of these Addresses was to support as Administration which bad bees alresdy condeassed by the voice of the nation. In this comity of Renfrew, in particular, the purpose of the Address was fortaaately well traced, ss the Reqmsitiorriats, not contented with their general advertisement, had sent a circular letter (like • Court-circular), earnestly and parti inanely requesting the attendance of their friends thr• day ; sod this circular 'sad been sent only to the Wise° and coustant rim/pursers 'erif the present Administration, as if seek persona only were fit to rally round the 'Throne. If, Issimeeer, after this, the Learned Judge, or any of his Ards, wished sincerely to she* that this Address was nut • Illtoisterial namicevre, they had au easy course to fol low. lot them only move or agree to • direct resolution, stating that this Address was passed "without say desire to retirees approbation or disapprobation of Miaistry."— (Heise, hear.)—Thie, and nothing else, would take the ins putatiou of party front the present Address. But all the tirsittlemen on the ether side knew, nod were conscious, that this would frustrate the real object of their Address, and ths purposes fur which Ibis meeting had been convened.— 'fbelporserl Judge had - said, that the Address proposed bg Oho Vote- Lientettam differed so little frost the amended illiihooo. as to induce one to think that the amendment had Woe proposed merely for the sake of opposition; but such nu opinion could not be seriously entertained by any man who read the two Addresses. The weeded Address assured his Majesty of the tranquil state of this populous district at the present period, though all classes of the community were labouring under the most unprecedented distress. Sure ly this is • valuable cousemeication to make to the Throne; sad be defied the most bigutted party-nssu to deny the fact. Oa the other baud, in their Address proposed front the Chair, the most sweeping coudemnation was pronounced both against the people and the press, but especially gutsiest the press.—( Hear, hear .)-011 what was that founded? The Learned Judge had not to-day even alluded to the common topic of irreligion. That charge seemed to be given np— thanks to the free discussiou which had taken place at such meetings; but the Learned Judge bad said, that there was still • lurking disaffection to the Constitution ; but lie call. ed on the Learned Judge fur some specific and tangible proof of so serious an allegation. Read the second para graph of the Ministerial Address. It clearly charged an inefictebte offence against the people. It charged the press with attempts to eradicate from the minds of the people all principles of religion and loyalty. If that be not a heinous crime, he did not know whit was. Now was any ground fur such a charge to be found in any recent proceeding is the supreme Criminal Court, of which the Learned Judge was • member' None. Was these say trial, or even soy warrant issued to the Local Court ? The Sheelff Substitutes were in the room, and by their silence answered in the negative. But, said the Learned Jude, the liceutiousaess of the press was manifested is the Addresses to the Queen, and in the answers to them. If so, why out. Collfille the complaint to these documents, sad not libel and vilify the great body of the people ? But further, lie would beg to ask, if the Learn ed Judge .was aequaisted with soy Address to the Queers from this comity, couched in language either licentious or unbecoming ? Ile had the present Address *lieu seemed to he, to condemn the peo ple ut Gotland fur the manner in which they had addressed the Queen. If the question, however, came to this, would the Learned Judge, or any assemblage of honourable end candid men, pronounce au °pintos on these Addresses, with out looking to the great question to which they related, and without examining the treatment of her' Majesty, which had gives rise to those Addresses? If they did so, their conduct wsW be unjust and revolt' re i• the extreme. This led ue ossoorily and unavoidably to the case of her Majesty, upon the question of the Queen. Is Owe, said the Learned Gen tleman, a Member prepared to assert that she has bees treated with bare justice ?—( Lem/ shouts of " Hear. hear," follow ed by trim from some persons Met they had nothing to do with the question of the Queen)—Sir, I must be allowed to say, that this interruption is both suspicious and disgraceful. He would, lie said, be justified, both by the speech cm the •ppusile side, and by the very terms of the requisition, (to consider an Address on the present stair of the COMA try), in entering upon the whole case of the Queen; but he had no wish to oudertake any esch task. It was earwigh fur him to say. that whether the Queen were guilty or m oment, lie comiderert that the whole proceedings soiled her were marked with a degree of partiality, oppression, mod injustice, that was a disgrace to the Government that Might them forward; and it was miagularly absurd to asikinu the people of Euglsed fur any ardour they die. eyed, or any license they tool; is expressing their feelings apes such- an usexampled investigatioe.-.-(fleer, hear.)— If, however, ply statement was to he stiuSt,te the throne, regarding the licentiuusuess of the press, 'certainly the Learned Judge could not in justice consent to limit his condemnation just to nee side of the press. That was dime iu this Address proposed by the Vice-Lieute. neut. But the Learned 'Jedge must know, that the Mi nisterial not only took as gust • license us the press on the other ride, but it was characterised by an intemper ance and pitiful scurrility, which betrayed at once the bort nese and wealemes of their cause. Yet there was no sc. knowderignient of this in the Address of the Gentlemen un the other side; and it was such partial and calumnious conduct as this that was calculated to disgust and irritate the people of this country. Nu wonder they assembled and expressed their opinion or public men and public affair,(. They were as well entitled to do so as this meeting; mud ht was surprised that the Learned Judge, keowine the consti twit's' and undoubted rights of the people, had let fall any expressions I. intimate that disorderly or inflammatory Ad.. dresses were to be expected al such meetiugs. The recent great meet legs in Edinburgh sad Glasgow well evinced that such anticipations were unmerited. In truth, if the or derly and decorous conduct of the meetings is question were contrasted with that of the pretest assemblage, he fear ed the contrast would not be in favour of the present meeting.—(A laugh, and load cries of Hear, hear.)— The Learned midge bad formally said, that the Address pro. prised by the Vice-Lieutenant recommended conciliation end creamily, and this he said was all that any Gestleman could want. But the Learned Judge tonal perceive, that the very fault of the Vice-Lieutenant's Address was, that while it admitted the propriety and necessity of • change of mea sures, it substantially advised his Majesty to cuunteuauce the very system elect had excited universal discuideut through the milieu; fur all that it said was, that as his Ma jesty had declared, that, "he held the crown iu trust for hos people," therefore the meeting relied on a system of retresichnsent and conciliation being adopted. Bet whet' was this declaration made' It was in his Majesty's first speech from the Throne, and the country knew and saw how mous')." his advisers hid been since employed. Nol owe Rill bad been taken to manifest a desire either to conciliate or re trench. Could the meeting then rely on • declaration of Ministry mode • year ago, when their whole conduct in the i•t iug period showed that their professions were bellow and insincere If she meeting adopted any such Address, it was • direct ascunragewient to Ministers to repeat nod fol .. . . low up the same nsemis ma which they had punned sadase queasily in his Majesty's opmeh last year; but he supposed that no mass in the comely minkd su far betray his duty as to mean that any such advice, if given, should be acted on. On three grounds he supported the amended Address in preference to the original one. But he begged to thank the promoters of this Address for the opportunity it afforded (eve. it tlw wretched room iu which they were sass ambled) for discussion. This would be of infissite nee', whatever might be the state of the vote; and he was slot aware of any evil that could result from it, as, from ibe torn that the de bate had taken, he did not think there was one perms, who would leave the meeting with an uneasy feeling to himself as an individual, from may thing that had been said. Lord SUCCOTH, in emplane's" said, that although he had nut, when formerly addre.aiug the meetiag, expressly read that paragraph M the original Address to which his Learned Friend bad alluded as having been omitted, the meeting would allow, that he had particularly adverted to the statement coutaisied its that paragraph, which be hounded on the disaffection barking iu the country having been excited by the Addresses to the Queen. lie hoped that hr was too well known to be supposed capable of iuteution ally passing over any part of the Address—( Near, hear) — Cries of "Question! question!!" then prevailed. Mr. STUART begged leave, before the vote was put, to re mind else Chairman, that it was big duty to put the ques tion, Aniesidutent or not An Address hail been moved from the ('hair, and an Amendment proposed by Mr. Max well. It was in such circumstances the regular and inva riable practice of all well-regulated assemblies, to put the question, in the first place, on the Amendment; because, if it should be negatived, it was impossible to foresee whe ther such slteraiinsis, in expression or in statement, might not he made oa the original Address, that it might be then 111011Ri ~,,, usly appovcd. The speakers on the other side had professed great desire for unanimity, and it did nut appear to him even yet to be impossible to attain it, if the Gentle swab were sincere iu their professions. Mr. Mum, the Presses, remarked, that Me. Maxwell had not moved au Amu ',dated', but a counter Address. Mr. Maxwell said, that it was an amended Address; and Mr. Stuart appealed to the meeting, whether it was nut really and truly au Amendment, substituting, ns is usual, the words in Mr. Maxwell's Address, after L. Thai" in the ori ginal Address,fur those contained in it. The rRIL3II/ haring decided that the vote should be Ad dress or counter Address. Mr. STUART said, that he felt himself hound, is toss,- quence ef the decision milli given, to state the alteration on Ilse original Address which lie had intended to propose, in case the ameudinent had been pat from the Chair in the re. gnlat way, mad negatived. lie bad intended, with a view to bring to an unerring tut the professions made by so many Genelemen today, but must of all by the Learned Jedge—that the basher's of this meeting was not political, stud bore no referruce to the continuation in office of this or that Administration—to propose that the paragraph last best one in the original Address should contain a declaration, that " we do not went to convey to your Majesty any ex pression of approbation or dtaapprobotion of the conduct of your Majesty: Mialsters."—He could out conceive how any Gentleman could object to this motion, who did not admit that such meetings as the present were called with a view to support the existing Admitii ssss ties, and those especially wino expressed anxiety for unanimity, as the Gentlemen on the ember side bad again and again dose. Mr. W. FULTON said, that they did not desire unanimity; and Lord Sifter - rev declared, that be could vote conscien tiously for line original Address, but nut fur Mr. Stuart's addition to it. Professor J rrrrr asked, whether Mr. Stuart's amend ment would produce tinenimity ? Mr. M ATM ALL rose and said, that though naturally fond of the amended Address, which was a child of his own, be was ready to make any sacrifice which he could du with pro priety, in order to irsuquillixe the meeting, and promote unanimity. Ile would therefore, after what had now passed, agree to withdraw the amended Address, and concur in Ilia addition to the original sow proposed. Dr. JR/VERY again ruse, and stated, that there was no thing in. the original Address respecting the conduct Lf Ministers, and upon cousideration it did appear to him, that ibis Amendment was proposed as a side.wind to con.- terset the intentions of the meeting. Mr. STUART, OR the other hand, maintained, that nothing could be more candid or fair than the conduct of those who had proposed and supported the addition to the Address. They were Sold, their unanimity was desirable, and that this meeting had authing to du with the conduct of Miaistry. Yet what was the conduct followed on the other side? As emit as he and those acting with bim agreed to give op their own Address and to adopt Ike Address of the Vice-Linde. Dant, even although disapproving, as they did, of the state ments which it contained, those Gestlemew as soon as this cool-ennuis was made So them by those as loyal to the Con. stitution as they were, had nothing fur it, but to admit that the sddition would frustrate the intention of the meet. lug, and to show that their professions were hollow and in sincere. —(Load cheers.)—He asserted, that it most be clear to every man of common understanding, that this and all other such meetings in this country were called by the Ministers themselves. Fur whose name was at the Sup of these requisitionists io Slits comity ? The Vice.Lieutenatee% the orgau of the Government to the county, and holding a high and respectable situation, removreable at pleasure. The same course had been followed io other counties with which he was connected ; and he verily believed, that not out of these meetings hail been called for auy purpose but to support an Administration which had no feeling in com mon with the people. He was therefore glad that his Hon. Friend (Mr. Maxwell) bad withdrawn his amended Address, although far more expressive of their real sentiments on the state of the country, in order the more incontestably to prove that the present Address had no object but the sup. port of the Missistry.—(Cheers.) The vote was called at nearly five o'clock, p.m. for the orginal Address, or for the Address as amended by Mr. STUART ; when there appeared 60 fur the original Address, 44 for the amended Address-10 otajurii - favour original Addreao. Mr. MaiweLt. said, that he had by revival inhabitant householders u ed agyintt that meeting being held the county, owing to the unconstituti of the retpoisition. As he considered wive of every individual is the count whatever it may, he would not have . . not tendered this proicst to the meet Mr. Simms of Elderslie, seconded Protest. Mr. MAXWELL afterwards g Ily self stid his friends, against the decision iug considered as the e x p ress i on County of Renfrew, Lord SUCCOTH then proposed, nseetiog be voted to the Preen. This motion was seconded, and when M r. GRAWASIC of Gartosens ) . their costisuasee is Ake, the Address would be considered • party Address. It was impossible it could be viewed its ■ny ether light, when Gentlemen came there from their Cussed-chamber, where they had been voting and signinz each as extravagant Address as they bad beard of, and pull ed out of their pockets another, which they considered the very chum for the Presbytery to vote and sign, iu co-opera tion of their C.•acil.chamber Address. After one or two other Members had delivered their opi nions against the Address, tbe Rev. Drs. luaus and HasNr replied. The Address was agreed to without a vete, Sir Harry Musiereiff contenting himself with delivering in his reasons of dissent, which were immediately signed by the Rev. A. Thomson, sad other Streabors are expected to sign it before the next meetiog of the Presbytery.—(Ediaburgh Star ) , TI-114.; 13 PR ESS. PRESBYTIIIitY OP At the meeting of the Presbytery •ry 5, Dr. luaus brought forward e Ler3•l Address to the Th•oue, expresep of the Presbytery im the prestos me had prepared so Address which he posing. It was seconded by Dr. GRANT. Sir HARRY Me/mature , rose, soil of the Address, as far as they imput gime snd disaffection, to the inhabit sufficient to atithurise the present Address. lu which opposition the Hon. Baronet • speech of considerable length end Thosescrit, who also contended, that, commencer, when the objects pursued werc, simply to yule fur the dismissal LONDON, WEDNESDAY, Limu,tar io, ten. Some further accounts relating to the state of the revenue for the year and quarter just closed will he found in our Paper this day, They of course offer no difference in the genera/ result from these which we have already published, but they mark the distinction between the produce of the total re venue . atid of the consolidated fund, and also elan bit a comparative statement of the income and charge upon the consolidated fund for the whole year, and for the quarter that closed 03 the sth of this month. IVith respect to the account of the in come and charge of the consolidated fund only, we find that there is a deficiency in the income, as com pared with the charge, to the amount of 844,429/. which, added to the deficiency iie this fund of nearly 8,000,000 f. subsisting at the close of the Octo. her quarter, leaves a sum of 8,814,000 i. to be pro.. tided for by an issue of bills charged on the grow ing produce of the consolidated fund. This state of deficiency in the income of the consolidated fund has now continued for some years, and must be attended with considerable inconvenience to the public service. Formerly the income so far ex ceeded the charge, that the excess of the consoli dated fund formed on important article among the ways and means, ainourning usually to the sum of 3,000,000 f. disposable in the hands of the CN•NCILLOB of the EXCHIQUER to meet the expenses of the current year. But really there is no part of our . financial system at present that is not in a strange and unnatural state, the accounts are every quarter becoming inore and more embarrassed and confused, there is a growing complexity of charges and counter charges, one branch balancing another, which can lead to no useful purpose, and would not be continued for an instant, did it not contribute in some degree to conceal the patch-work system of temporary expedients in which the Ministers have been so long struggling. The only means by which the Ministers can hope to restore the consolidated fund to a satisfactory state would be, to annihilate a sufficient quantity of stock standing in the name of the Commissioners for liquidating the national debt. This could be attended with no greater dis advantage than is at present caused by the appli cation of a certain portion of the sinking fund to meet the current expenses, while it would disem barrass the public accounts of much of their present complexity, and relieve the Treasury from the inconvenience of an accumulating armor upon the consolidated fund. Did not the question relating to the proceedings against the QUEEN press with paramount interest upon the instant attention of Parliament, and were it not of s nature too extensive to admit a hope that any other subject can be entertained during the next Session with ■dvantage to the public, we should trust that the moment had at length arrived when the wisdom of the Legislature should be di rected to the framing of a new system of financial account,. The first step we should hope would be to reduce the nominal sinking fund of sixteen mil lions, which is applicable to any service but the one fur which it was created. into ■ real sinking fund of such amount as the state of the public revenue should admit. The present overgrown miss of stock i- the hands of th- dent.ltis could tie attended with no ° c , Tester dis- advantage than is at present caused by th e ait ii the co io a o d Li to e of those Address. wh was desirable, and that this the conduct of Ministry. cation of a certain portion of the s i n ki ng f un d to ed on the other side? As meet the current expenses, while it would dtsem- , him agreed to give op their barrass the public accounts of m uc h o f th e i r Iddress of the Vice-Linde. c, as they did, of thestate. present complexity, sod relieve the Treasury from Gentlemen, as soon is this the inconvenience of an accumulating arrear upon y those as loyal to the Con- idling fur it, but to admit the consolidated fund. t the intention of the meet. Did not the question relating to the proceedings 'Moos were hollow and in- seeded, that it most be against the QUEEN press with paramount interest aderstauding, that this and upon the instant attention of Parliament, and were country were called by the . se name was st the t u p of it not of nature too extensive to admit a hope ? The Vice-Lieutenaues ‘ that any other subject can be entertained during the county, and holding a the next Session with ■•dvantsge to the public. we removeable at pleasure. red in other counties with should trust that the moment had at length arrived e verily believed, that not when the wisdom of the Legislature should be di- called for auy purpoat but liieb had no reeling in corn. reeled to the framing of a new system of financial berefore glad that his Hon. account,. The first step we should hop e wou ld b e . raw n his amended Address, iheir real sentiments on the to reduce the nominal sinking fund of sixteen mil- I the more incontestably to lions, which is applicable to any service but the one iad no object but the stip• fur which it was crested, into • real sinking fund fire o'clock, p.m. for the of such amount as the state of the public revenue dress as amended by Mr. should admit. The present overgrown mss of 0 fur the original Address, majority is favour or the stock in the hands of the Commissioners is peach*. ad received • paper signed live of nothing to the country bat embarrassment ▪of Paisley, who protest- and expense ; it is a vast encumbrance, N great field to convey the sense of bubble, but without boyancy, • political paradox, itutioaally limited nature by its magnitude, bat ridicul o us f rom ere co d u h n i y i , se be lf the bjs R s e tt p u rese atio n . t s it il e rp f r u isg t l i n lily or its operations. We should, however. ave done his ditty if he had not desire to be thought to speak slightingly of a • nded the reception of the sinking fund conducted upon the principles on • ner a lly protested, for him- which the present sinking fund is fou n d e d, were ecisiou of this meeting be- theism principles suffered to operate. It is not to the of the sentiments of the system we object, but to the manner in which the t, that the thanks of the system is pursued. The Ministers of the Croati d was about to be tarried, have established an expenditure so vast, that tht y e called out, " Not avant. can no longer respect the sacredness of that fund to • which the Statesmen of their own party had empha- EDINBURGIT. tically bestowed the epithet of 66 sacred." They have encroached upon the capital of the country in •ry this day, Friday, lama- drawing present taxes, and it could not he hoped .; ••1 hi• promised onetime for expremive of the opinions that they would abstain more carefully born the slate of the country. He hopes and resources of our posterity. There err he took the liberty of pro- Mill means in the power of Parliament to save the present capital and future resources of the emptte 11 7, ,..1 °5ray deig,„„, of sedthtir allegationsrel, from the ruin that threatens them, but it will re- habituate this country, quire a strung effort of virtuous patriotism to give t Address. daronei was en pportrd, in a them effect. Nothing can save the country but to nd ability, by the Rev. A. pursue earnestly a principle of strict economy; to that, uuder the present eir- enforce it iu every department of the Stale; and to mewed at public meetings lima! of Ministers, and fur reduce the expenditure of the Government at least - - •