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tary force, partienlarly as it was united with the Militia Act, which tended to make the soldier more respectable, by bettering his situation. I cer tainly must allow, that in a crisis of alarm and den gin-, it is the undoubted right of every Government?, whether Monarchical, Aristocratieal, or Repub lican, to call upon every man capable to bear arms in the cause of that society to which he belongs." t .Vt. are sorry our limits do not hermit us to do any thing like justice to his Lordshp's speech.l— Loitiship concluded by observing the hard ship and hips:ice of appointing 301. as the tine, -sad not suffering a poor man to raise it by the means of others ; and, in respect to Ireland, he observed, while wa are situng here, providing for the defence of the realm, and the only dispute is, whether that defence shall be provided by the Local Militia, the Volunteers, or the are Act, re we considering the defence of Ireland ? 1\ e are considering which is the best way for Eng us use their arms-- we have wrested the •irais of Ireland from her people us unlit to use qbein. Such is the defence and the situation of liat di.traetetit country !" count SiII:MOUTH was surprised tinch a measure tits present had not been brought forward be fo,-c. tie [lever could allow an irregular armed b : ,ty to be ea t ital to at regular one. Ills Lordship coin bided a s i ktech of some length in favour of the question. The Marquis or nocKINGHAm supported the rueaeile. a., lie thought it would he a sai:astitute for the Volariteer system ; for the number of V (M. latatt(ers that came forward, in the months of Sep tember and October last, did 110 t otne forth fro:n th e same pritieeole th it the. Volunteers had or4iii id; dung, but to ai ballot for 'Militia. lie tt.•;.t preu% ell of the inno...itions on the Militia fa s tem—it .weer had been intended that the !Militia slmuld he taken trove their oi.n countiys ; but, in *hair *,reset stai,e, they were liable to be sent to any part or the which the Militia, inst-aa or ce.isisiing of officers of the first respe,t abilat ia the county, and the privates formed of persoas iu re p. situations, to be a mbodied With mere hareliaizs. The g , •eatest objection he had to the Call was, that it made pconnis of all ranks to corporeal punishment; for all per sons were captally liable to be culled upon. 'The In its oii=ihal state, at the time of peace, when called out to be trained, were under the. Mu tiny Art, host they were iruter officers of their own appointment; etal the rafficers proposed by the pis sent measure were to he Appointed by Govern ment. He coticlueed, by observing, that the mea sure should ha , e his support ; but, at the same rime, k.e thott i ;:it the Bill required many modifi cations. Lord ltiuteeser, supported the measure, and, in answer to the Noble Marquis, said, it was ne cessary that persons of the lower order should be in dread of corporeal punishment ; those in a better orates of life would not require it, se it would not affect them ; and he assured the Noble Marquis, that the Officers shonld be chosen out of the ICoUletnen and meat respectable characters in each individual county. la aaswer to the objection of the NfAa;, Lord (Holland) that individuals were not allowed to apply to a friend to egoist them in paying their fines, it was not the case, fee it only veto to prevent unlawful insurances. The Alsrquis ULI4IIII II WWI spoke an enplane tion. Lord IntsaLmati explained. The question Ile going into Committee teas then pot and earned. The House resolved its4f into a Committee, and a eat through the several clauses, with some verb,' amendments. The llouse resumed, sod the report was ordered is he brought taii on llloaday. The other orders of the day were then dis posed of, end at Twelve o'Clock the Atonic ad interned. tIOCSE OF co %MONS. Air Joss Rt !I CL X tit brouttat up the report of the Broad wheeled Ca rialto Committee, whirls woo bud ores the fade. . nr..lre I.: ttif:lti alit doted leave to firing in a bin to in dcioniN all pere..as rnenvr-tat in carrying i-tto rift ct a A••• in last ?ieseton, t.r C omp:ct img the litititts in the rosier Hamlett. The Lanes le.t tight - ot, re nd a first (in.., and or dered t.i be read a 'weep.' I. t 0,,,,,,,,,, Mr. FosTre hrowelet ta t : this ii.,tt Vote of Credit 1101, a It.ch vas read a first Ind mitered to be relid a second time to-morrow. A Moro ..; from the latele 111111. , URC 14 ! their Lordships' Assent to the lEaglish Lion Hill, it.. trash FIAN \ ll'at Regula tion 11;st. and tie Lunettes' Asy It11:1 Bal. TIN SIIWN ill1:1114(eiVe B.: I, a- ,r 1 ti. rape of Good !lope Trade Hilt, were sesennly re,anted, and ordered to be read a third ti.nr tri-rtorrow. Mr Hoer gave no-tee that he setinht, upon Monday next, move for leave to brine iit • bill to rtoval certain Acta as to the Woollen II ansif:tetuvis 'Fbc Land-tax : u autism -sees' Rill., the A'. facensing Bill, the Prize Casten lill, the l'nee 1i0.r.1% Htii, acid the Post- Horse Doty Fanning Bill, were severally read a third turn., and pasted. Mr. Ro.r. baseght in • Bill to continue the botinties , for a time to br bunted, opus the honthern %Male Tishery. Read • tirst,and ordered to he read a scrund three to-morrow. The le.odos Werebonslog Hiltless reads seeond time, and warred to be roismitted bemsorrow. The meassittal of the Assessed Taxes Bill was postponed WI Torso., next. The Cake : osteses and Evelae Duties Bulls were ems *silted, or 0, ordered to In. reported cm 'Monday. Mr. W•RDTL gate notice, that upon Thursday next he etoshissbastit a motion to the blouse, respectiu; the clottsitig of the tansy. Mr. LONG brought np • Bill fur improving Westroinstt ',- Mall. Prod a best, and ordered to be read a second tuns teresion eer. 'Ter ummittal of the Annuities Bill was postponed to Monday nest. The Lottery Bill wee ordered to be committed to-morrow. IMPORTATION of ITALIAN SILK. The House resolved Itself into a t:treinitttee n Intl,* to this i.mortattoo of silk, in which the Chao-son was ir.stoieted to 11. Vt for keee to bring to a Bill, to allow, fur a time to be liusited, the importation of Italian eurown silk. • pea t , te Ilona* being resumed, the Chairman obtained leave acr4,,rdiegiy. Mt Rt.••• «lon atter brought in hie Rill for the above par prose—...lttch wan rows unit ordered to be /cad a second time t .1131111.11111 STAMP DI:TIES 81 1.1.. The 12.1:on of the Stamp Thitiree Bell was brought up, awl vat let.lF a l eienelineme: !wormed and sCrt ea tn. Mr. Li pat I.•H 'toted that he had various ohjertioar to titer rip AM the:. Bill, nlee-le he would delay till the 34 rending. He beer: Y(1 kive merely to tehr.e rve, neon the pr.- rut tbeelHAOH, Illt Ihrrt waa Lr Cert 4111 r1..%0f po r ,,ois upon lilotia it voillt! fall with a considernlele . &glee of learelethip. Hr loPitot 11 reenns having Ipeed W HIM 1111 a) out on twetituit et vt Lc previous to tit. ~aaaug I.‘:* tLir act. Intntear c \- %hose Liy sti.d present ,een re- of cou can be reseesses nretary ts beiug r to au evy *hat red , i yartiitazr. tm. c ,e ploce; owed by y eut:et . , Les *lmm uowee of nut% el, career a inCC We Pr': ,op It otti UR I. that tn .rn k .• tat . P. Ol .4e r. 'per: :a .t ..- pc.t.aa .1• imm ■ The Dill sru then ordered to b read a Third time, upon Monday Hut. COPY RIGHTS. • Mr. Vti.i.tual wo,ed the second reading or the Copy Right Bill. • Mr. A meacuomarr thought that time ,hould be allowed for the due cousiderattou of a snhject, in a 'Mel' the interests of the most mei ammo,. al tliqugli, perhaps, not the most opulent, ela.s of the community, were so seriously concerned. Mr. VILLIERS, however, saw no reason for fur ther delu, as sufficient time would yet he affmded for every rritsonitble After a few words from Mr. W. WYNNE, the Bill was read a second time, and ordered to lie coin 'flitted on W,,doesday 'text. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. Mr. TIVSILIssON moved the. House to go into this Committee ; and also, that several documents, as to grunts to His Majesty, among winch was one, re lative to the Naval Asylum, be referred to them. Sir C. Pots rose, and urged his former objec tines, a, to the manner iu which this Asylum was coniiiietelt, and several of the appoiuttaients of per sons folding offices therein. lie therefore conceived he should not be doing his duty to the public, were he not to oppose any grant to tnst institution, un less it were so managed, as to prove au encourage ment to the naval service of the country. They hail al r. :Ay received, towards that Institution, the sum of 42,000L0f which the public had as yet had no aventint rendered. Mr. Rose observed, that the sum alluded to was no public bounty, but was a private donation, to be bestowed solely upon the maintenance of the chil dren of Naval Officers, and could not therefore be isestoited, as the present grant was iutetided to be, upon erecting buildings for their accommodation. The House then went into the Committee; and The CHAPHALLOR of the Excueviu La proposed certain Resolutions ; the first of which was, " That it is the opinion of this Committee, that the sure of rri,noel. be granted to His Majesty, to defray the expense of erecting buildings for the Naval Asyluin." Sir CHARLES Poise again objected to any such grant being made, and 'mai( ularly urged his (b.:- approbation of the uppointinents of auditor and surgeon. The CHANCEL. Los of the Excureueit expressed surprise at hearing such an objection made to a grant, which was intended for the support of seven hundred boys, and three hundred girls, the chil dren of Naval Officers. Sir CHARLES POLE thought there ought to be a statement of their feuds laid before the House, be fore they came thus, in forma penperis, craving ter further aid. Ile should not, however, divide the thou .e upon the subject, but hoped some means would be taken to remove all objectionable ren.tuis from holding appointments 'miler that iestnution. Mr. Rest stated, that they came forward as Commissioners for that Institution, to state, that it was necessary to grant this sum for the building, and 'tot to put in a claim, is forma pauperis, for the support of the children, that being done by vo luntary contribution. The school for she sons of common sailors was not sufficieut for the accommo dation of more than 150, and au instance had oc curred where the son of an Admiral had been un der the necessity of sleeping in the same bed with the ion of a cowman mailer. is ..as surely there fore but reasonable that the same accommodation should be given to Me children of seamen, as was given to those of soldiers at Chelsea. Mr. WINDHAM supported the objections of Sir Charles Pole, as he thought it proper the ib,use should hare a statement of the affairs of the Insti tution before them. In answer to some further observations from Mr. Rosa — Sir CHARLES Pate observed, that he also ob jected to the person at the head of that Institution, on account of his not being a naval person. If such appointments were allowed to be made, he would not be surprised to see some Captain of a Regiment of German Cavalry afro holding some of the ap pointments in it. The Resolution was then put and carried. The CHAUSLLOR of the EEC)! EQUAL next pro posed— " That it is the opinion of this Committee, that the sum of 410. be granted to enable His Majesty to discharge the ar rears of the aunaity that ass payable to the late Duchess of Gloucester. " Thut the sum of 30,na01. be granted towards erecting the Military College of Sandlierst, in Surrey. " That 90,0001. be granted to Lieut.-Ceneral Martin, as a compensation for the kisses he sustained ia Virginia, as an American Loyalist." These Ili solutions were severally agreed to, and, up es the House resumiste, the Report was entered to be received to-morrow. WAYS AND MEANS. Upon the motion of Mr. HusaissoN. the House went into this Committee, in which Mr. ForrLa proposed llesolutioos, relative to the Countervailing Uuti 111)011 Spirits distilled in Ireland, as he had formerly stated in detailing the Irish B•idget.— The.e being severally agreed to, the How.: re sumed, and the report was ordered to he received to-,norrow. The Paymaster General's Regulation Bill was read a so rood time, &het urdere4 to be entnaviited twesurruw. I The Exchequer Bile Loan Bil l, for,talia, was brought up, read a first, and ordered to be read a second tints tu-rourrow. Tilly CARNATIC. Upon the motion of Sir THOMAS TURTON, the 'Order of the Day was read, for resuming the ad journed debate von the affairs of the Carnatic. The lion. Baronet then resumed his observa tions as to the Resolutions he had yet to submit to the House. As be bowed with deference to the juAtiee of the decision that had already been made as to the Resolutions that had been already guile through--he should not allude to them so us to criminate the Noble Lords who were the subject of Ithem. There woe now o n l y two remainin g Reso lutioeu relative to the character of th e acts that had Wen place in India, which iinplicated, in a great measure, the cliaraet.T of the nation. The first went to the treatment of the young Prince, A h Ilusaii, during his confinement ; and the se cond went to pledge the blouse in a Resolution that it ilol not participate in any degree in such tyrimnical conilin t as had been evinced upon that cwe; ,,,,,,ii ; hut was willing to make reparation to the person , injured, so etc to rescue the British elm ract..c from i.nr islnim that hail attached to the track:action. tic should, therefore, without further eitgervationo, proreed to read his Iles°lotions, whirl' were to the following purport it appes , s to this House, that the person of is Prince liosan w committ2cl to pillion, sod uutleilfr mewling IV. 'visa as to the injustice et Ins bring IJ:urea a. the ponce of his eiretoy, in a 11 . 101. i tie.../a4liiig state, end his life emposed .tren4. - r from the Usurp..r•Thia I prune, yrt 'list he Mar compelled to toutinee there tilt the tills of Aptit, %thee he 'stied. • The next ilcsnlution " That is Committee shunlit be eirmintol to inquire into the circeinstauces of his death; and that there should be an instruction to inquire nit, the le:it mode of resetting the character of the thitn.h nation trum the eibluquj and odium of the transaction" Cpuil tile first of these Resolution's, a divisicao took place, when there appeareil— Against it Fur it OIL Majority Upon our return to the gallery, we found Sir S. R 01111.411 animadverting upon the extra ordinary decision that had taken place, and the si lence which Ministers observed upon a subject that implicated so materially the character of the Bri tish nation. He did net attribute to the Noble Lords concerned in the transaction alluded to, any corrupt motives of iseltisb aggrandise ment, but merely a mistaken conception of what wa s for the inlvauthige of the East India Company, and of the country in general. It was, in his opinion, a false ambition, and the frost ent violation of every principle of justice. They were not now to decide so much upon the charac ter of the Noble Persons in queatiou. but they were to decide upon the character of the British Nation. The House were now called upon to say, neltether they should wake those action* their coin And this appeared to him to be a most serious:it'd important question for the honour and character of Britain.— There had been men lately who lowered the charac ter of that assembly, as being actuated by tile most wicked motives ; and could any thing make a stronger impression upon the public mind, than the decision that had taken place that night, when there were only six members more than were no isessary to constitute a House ? This would no doubt form a most instructive part to the future pages of the history of this country. end would greatly resemble the transaction* already detailed of Cotten and Pizarro, in South Ame rica. in the same manner would the papers already printed upon these trausactioits in India, furnish most important documents for the history of this country. It would be recorded, that at the distance of some years titter they had taken place, thy were brought under the consideration of the British Parliament; the Ministers of the day de clined the discussion, end got rid of them, by mo tion* of the previous question. After this it might be wondered what sorted' questions would be deemed of sufficient importance to interest a Secretary of State, or a Chancellor of the Exchequer, who seemed willing to rely upon their majorities, and to allow subjects of the most vital importance to the r ountry, to pass through the House without favouring the public with their sentiments. As the question had already been much agitated by others who supported it, it would be unnecessary for him to enter into any detailed arguments to bring the matter still under the review of Ministers; he should therefore only advert to particular parts of the printed documents before them. The Right bionosirobte °Pattern:in then endeavoured to point out the insufficiency and fallacy of the evidence that had been adduced to prove the treasnuable acts of the unfortunate young Prince, whose death had been so unjustly occasioned by the Govern ment in India. The persons, on whose testimony the Noble Marquis had thought tit to resort to the measures he had taken, were the Vakeeis, who had become subject to the influence of the East ladle Company, and possessed places under it; and as if this in itself had not been sufficient to influence their testimony, they were upon their exa mination told by the Secret Committee, that they particularly should entertair. feelings of attachment and truth in all matters connected with the interests of the Company; and that though they were then in situation' under the Company, it had not any intention to deprive them of those situations, exee;it they should, by treachery or prevarication, utter any thing injurious to the truth and the interests of the Company's Govern ment hi India. These circumstances would have incapacitated them from being received as Wit nesses in any Court of Great Britain. Yet even the testimony of one of these met, thus traMed and instructed, had not served the interest of the Coinnany, nor the wishes of this extraordinary Court of Jnstice. Another singular circumstance in the copying of their evidence was, that though they spoke in the Persian dialect, it had been entered down in English ; and the reason: given for this strange whim was, that having pioceede4 to examine one of the witnesses for a short time in Persian, the Committee had found it would not turn out as they had expected. Bet the strongest ground of presumption for this Com mittee to give the opinion and decision' it had done, was that which they had stated, namely, the confidence and reliance they had Rn the testi mony of the Noble 'Marquis himself, whotexpreseed confidently his knowledge of the treasonable cor respondence between the Native Princes ah lajaw and Onuint ul )mrah. Yet this opinion had afterwards been adduced as a justification of that Noble Marquis's conduct, who had himself solicited and extracted it from the Committee.—e But it, strange as it might appear, was no less the fact, that iii the examination of these witnesses, there was nothing mentioned by them of this t .es sr-melte correspondence, and the Ire.lsoli for this silence was one of the west extraordinary that perhaps had yet been given in acy Court. — It was said, in the report of the Committee. that, owing to the atrocious nature of this corrcvond ener, to which, as they had beets narties, it was sup posed they would, by confessing it, be involved in a most unpardonable crime, they, therefore. were not examined touching it. This was indeed when it was evil known, that the more atrocious the circumstances of the treason, the more agreeable must it I.e to these by whom they were csamitied. The cypher. as it had beim called, in winch tho;e Princes had tor resooedecl, was untying more than that soccies of rhetoric al figure, so listed its the 1 7 .1 , n. of describ isg persons by their qualities instead of their name, Thus Tippcm had been called the Pillar of the Yaltli—tha Eugliste the raze of ueiscomers; ea- ... _ . „ other neutral person hid been cat led the wellwishes of mankind. Certainly finch terms as these did riot: constitute a coniidentiel cypher. Nething could be more inhuman than the conduct of a I Noble Lord (Clive) respecting the succession to , the Crown, a hem he gave au option to the next of kin to succeed to the Throtie, on resigning every prryil• ge of liciyalty, except that of notairel tioverentnty. Ihe letter of Lord 'Wellesley, not .only authorised • this conduct, but further required, that, if be should decline it, it should, ILI the same terms, be proposed to the next: anti if again declined by this Prince, his Lordship should then establish the Cotupaey's Government throughout the Climatic. 1' :is was put iu exevu time and, twenty-four hours after death of the Nabob, the Prince, Ali Hu.an, was compelled to quit the fenereal rites of his father, and produce his eill fur the examination of his he reditary enemies. Ou his declining to accept the terms on which the throne was offered to hint, and bciug then informed that he was but a private man, and in future must he looked on with a jealous eye by the Company, his 1 lesitai lour bespoke that dignified serenity and pa. tit:Ute, under unmerited suffering, which deserved a better treatment. o The whole of the trans. actions in India," said he, " are such as must for • ever disgrace us in the eyes of the world, and ren tier our authority uncertain and unstable in out vast possessions in that country. lf, as it has been said, the Carnatic has been benefited by its change from a Mishometan to a European Government., why has it not been done by open fore., and en by insidious fraatts ? Why have the Mistletoes maintained on this subject so profennd a silents ? Nlliy have they not given us their ideas of the Sae of conduct and principles of Gevernmeet which should be maintained in India? In defiant* et all treaty and alliance, our Government in India hue violated the rights of independent nations, and "Ministers have been content with giving a silent vote on the subject. Let them break this silence, let them give some account of the motives which have actuated them ito giving their sate en this same important subject." Lord Caetteeeson, as he had been called en, could not refrain from making a few observation on what had fallen from the Hon. Member. What was his intention in bringing forward the present resolution ? The House had already come to a de cision on the resolutions of fact, mud determined they were not tit to be entertained in this Hoare. yet notwithstanding this negative, es deeidedly given to these propositions, the present moieties was calcnbited only to revive this discussion, and declared that an inquiry into this subject should he iii.t.tuted *birch. This application should the* be considered by Parliament as altogether too late; and he regretted that the efforts of the Learned (gentleman, in the defence of virtue, in. °select, am! the integrity of the British characteein India,ideeekl have been altogether porthunsous, and could fend to no other purpose than to expose that Paillanient. which he suffered to come to a decision without the guidance of his patriotic talents and refereional se. curacy, to the contempt of the nation, and to the indignation of both India sad the world. The Honourable Member should bluih that be had beau so long negligent, where the character of Parliament had been so deeply concerned i and sever had his talents been so ernmeendy and inefficaciously employed, as in the speech be had just made to prove the criminal eendect of Parliament and the Indian Government, wheat l it was too late to repair the injury. The conduct of the Noble Marquis had been founded upon the provisions of former treaties between the East India Company and the Pi inert , of that country. — There had (M/Vu express provisions in these treaties that no secret coirespondence should have been carried on between the Nabob and the native Princes, and in consequence of the violation of this article, it was thought necessary to make an inquiry inure accurately into the probability of its being a treasonable correspondence. It was not necessary that an inquiry of this nature should have been carried on with all the guterledness and accuracy of exarnioatiou within bar. To timed some executive act for the preservation of our dominions, it was net necessary to have direct and incontro vertible evidence of the treason. It was only ne cessary it should appear, from the body of the evi dence, that the disposinou to insurrection existed amongst those i'rinces. The House did not deo inaud positive proofs of the intentions of France, by sending Sehastiani into Egypt, to constitute there a force which might hereafter overturn our Indian Empire. The intention might, as in the present instance, be discovered without positive and direct test i inouy on the subject; hut from the circumstances of the times, sad intimetions from secret sources, the Executive might have been iuductd, and. to doubt stare induced, to counteract the attempts of France, %%A such success in Egypt. The same rem Boning would apply to the care of the Nabobs ; and he was happy to say, the came success had also ot tended the .%igilauce of the Noble Lord, and the energy and vigour of his measures. The cypher, of which much WO teem' saidl mutt sPPe" to every man to have been used, not for the purposes of a cemphinentnry correspondence, bat f. the secret pstrposes of' treasor. To say it had heels used for the purpo-e of completing to immerge Its tvvecti the fetimics of the Nobel, and the N 1 note, was idle sod uticouod ,, ,l ; for it ihould he loco'. lectetl, there was on this head pmitlve and &tit testimony from Lord Conover:ls I,..seelf, that fre quent i °emit:Mentions hod been mole by di e Nabob to the 31f•ore Government, of the views et the t.:••••toriuy, and 6040 secrets which it had ab tanit,i through t',- medium of the confidence sub sistiug In•tween the tit o pow, r.. NI i. SNI:IIb.O4. ie a most perspeatons and elo (went s ! wech, tepheet to the obsci vetione of the No;,I•• Lund. It was impoosible fur him to sit si lent after the tUre•-t and tinsoeul application which the 'obis i ••-J had made to him. He was sure. front the ii.. ,, r, r itt which he hail .poker of him a few eights Ins, k, that the Nol la Lord could not have alkitied to hint in any t hsresiscetful imiitiet. Still it iTUI. surprising. that durio the five inii.u . es in which he iNfe S.) was au-.t t. in the begins. , g of h's stifoch, the Volite I .ortnia.l, he tinders's, • '.. mad, a per-octal otta• le- *omit hon. That he li, Sc excused ; and should time ...fore only advert to r. , ft inns ? e , t ,,,,,•,;;., a ,,.• s peech of t.o Nohle 1-u d, '•••d to tl• • in, • • •loctruie which he be I that rig' promu;gafecL ioticril,l3. coutluded with a son. ~: , i , i 0 I h• east 'hey i ha way ,tnu ■icly I. the L:e ut •e to •u► - early In in tati's 7014,C . - ntl;...r me.i 3 colic t iu 11,e iun to •rrta •L ive an •: t au: .. o'lllo. .01hilit en the to the