The Statesman. — London, England, 1822-12-03 00:00:00

~. r.Iui.FENT DEBT SOLVE OR"; NATS.LT-FRAUDULENT IN --e--- (Firther Particulars of the Meeting bellk at the Hotel, Bridge Si reet, Blaclifriars, uu Wednesday last.) A nnmerous and highly respectable hteeting of Mer chants. Tradesmen, and ethers, was held on ?lode's-, day evening last at Cooper's (late Walker's) Hotel, Bridge Street. Riackfriars, to consider of the propriety et forming a Societ for the pnrpose of opposing cad prosecuting Fraudulent Insolvent Debtors. Mr. James Barbidge, of FleeSstreet, was called to the Chair. The worthy Chairman shortly addressed the Meeting. They had now met for the pnrpose of considering the Ferrier) , of establishing a Society for prosecuting Fraudulent Debtors. It was now so easy to get into Debt,so little punishment to get into prison, and so very easy to get out again, that it was considered as no die. grace to have been an Insolvent. As to opposing the discharge of an insolvent Debtor, he had found it so witless that he had utterly abandon ed it, and bad set his face completely against any one adopting that course, at his own hazard. The object of the present Meeting would be to establish a Society which might render such opposition more effective, aid more conclusive to forwarding the ends of Justice. — /feeble stated thee mach, he should leave it to some thstleman more capable than himself to go more at Mere into the subject. Mr. liourtield, of Chatham Place, Blackfriars, solicl34 ad the attention of the Meeting for a few moments.-1 The ides of forming such a Society as that sow gate& plated, originated with him; be bad ling been impressed with an opinion of its necessity. The present lushest Aet serge from the old one. and no one could read it. or the report founded upon it, recently published, with. out seeing in every page strong proof of the necessity there was for forming snob a Society as that now pro posed. In 1817. (as appeared by . the Report in tresttes)l there were Assignees appointed in 296 Cases—in 196 of these Cases the return of the Assignees' " was as effects "Mt/serer, in the peeseesion of the Debtor." la ISIS. the number of Cases were 346—0 f these 319 here the sage setern. The Cases here noticed were most probably the best which could be ',elected oat of the whole number enervate discharged is those two years, sad which Sight fairly be stated at 6000. This was a proof beyond• centradirtioa in hie' opinion that either the Assignees Here remiss in the discharge of their duty, or that there Ass no protection for the honest Creditor. If a poor wretch, urged by hunger and wain, stopped another on the highway, and robhed him of a few shillings, his life was forfeited ; whilst an individual, pursuing a system of fraud, by which an honest Tradesman and his Family (sigh t erhaps be reduced to rein and beggary, might apply for his discharge under the provisions of the In soirees Debtors Art ; and eves if fraud was proved finis! bins, the extreme of pnoishmellt to which he weld be liable, would be imprisonment for three years ft wet sot for there to say the Act ought not to have pissed, bet they were boson to do all they legally could 're counteract the evils resulting from it. The Act was amended by that of August Ise;, bet still the evils of eilAdt they had to gavials were mot done away—with in little mitre than two years, (the petiod during which this Act had been in operation) sio fewer than 7300 la divides!, had pr-see,ted Petitions to be discharged; this peeved the *steel of the relief given, and the evil result iOg to the fair trader. It was said indeed that this Act agog to be permanent, but it was reported that a bowel woe to be bui it,se Lich rath al ndicated permanency. +dim great evils of the present system were, the faci lity with *blob Debtors obtained their disc harge, the heavy expense attending opposing such discharge, sod the reiuisseess of the Assignees it, enquiring after the property of such Debtors as wefe ditOarged. No mg " Mon koala be attempted' at Ices aspege than eight or tea pounds —earl' if the gee were euferred to the Egotism It would Iregeogly egged IC, vied ha all cases, whether the Imieleent wasremaged et dlochergsd the expenses came our of the pocket of the killytdual who irstltuted enquiry, however used Oho Ind . years estate might be benetned by sock enquiry. The was gloat ihd tattir, and operated to deter opposition from creditors, however injored. He was ;of opinion that there meet always be an act for the retie( of lesolesat Dableres lot Is whatever shape it might be gamed, be had es dealt *ere would always be room for the operations of lush a Society. From the ob tions he had /111411 he *toil* that one or allot three things might be fatly &geed ; lest, that the set affordel great (agility to the discharge of frau. driest Itenivenu;—second, that by reason of Me trouble and expense of opposition, creditors rarely opposed; sod, tag, that wiles once an Insolvent was discharged, seam* gyms. thought it worth his while to look after the presses se Were properly : and, if either of these positiess wore *drained, he thought the necessity of sect' a Society es the in proposed could not be denied, asks objects weeM he to appose the discharge of improper persons. SUS SA NA. odesl creditor of the expenses of as opposition by sharing teem with him, and subsequently attending to the elects is possession, as well as subsequently acquired, and in suring as equal division amongst the creditors entitled thereto. lie should now propose that a society, unarm p!oper regulations, to be called " The Metropolitan & ) elety, for the opposition and prosecution of Fraudu lent Insolvent Debtors," should be established, and he would also suggest that the objects of the sociel would he greatly furthered if, so soon as their funds would ad mit of it, they were to extend their. investigations to rases of fraudulent Bankrupts. The worthy tired/men concluded by moving a aeries of Resolutions declaratory of the necessity there was for the establishment of eac h a society as that proposed, which were agreed to. wil!ir. flousrteLowt moved the appoieuent of a Com ter, to draw upeoles sod regulation for the mete lees of the Society. This resolution was agreed to, and it:omit/Wee constable of 1 et the Gentleman present. and others erre appointed. Mr. liousnsa said, there was one circumstance which he bad forgotten to mention. He held i• his band a list 010 individuals who hail recently been discharged ender the act,whose united debts exceeded 100,0001. in amount. The worthy Oeotiemao read the 0•01•11 of the individ•- Ills in question. The united estate, of these persons aid slot exceed tit, out of which sum the estate of one in dividual was 151 ; a nother whose debts amounted to up • wards of 101011. returned property to the amount of 131 ; a third had assets to the angora of 61.; and a certain City Knight whose debts amounted to upwards of 14,0091. had no ts at all. These things he thoeght could out possibly have bees. had it not been o win g to some neglect on the part of the Assignees, appointed to investigate the property of each individual. . Mr: Wtmtams (of Cloth Fair) said, there was see thing more for the meeting to de, and that was to sp. Pais' a Solicitor and Secretary to the Society, and be tagght they sould out any where select an individual better qoalibed to 611 that situation than the Gentleman olio hied lest addressed Mein ' • he should therefore pro • that Mr. William Cheek Botuedeld be appointed Se- Leiter led Secretary to the Society. This proposition tees seconded and agreed to unanimously. Mr. Beetristai acknowledged the honour conferrid on him, and pledged himself to devote his time and at• tootles to the conscientious discharge of the trust' thus reposed in him. Messrs. Pees:mead Cm were then named as Bankers and Treeenetes to the &Misty. ilk Visas were Mod le*, Champ. and the died. wt adjoatied. , • LONDON: TUESDAY /YINING. Dic[Y•U 3, 1922. STOCK Ezra *woe, 12 o'CLocK.— In consequence of the warlike information received from France this morning the Stock Exchange was in a bustle, and Consols opened at 79 and rose immediately to 790 j. There still ate different opinions on Change, on regard to the question of War between France end Spain, owing to the resole tioe of this country not to interfere; and it is assert ed that the Duke of Wellington was otit-mancenvered at Verona. In the first instance be was most cordially re ceived by all the e Wed pat►on, and after they bad heard all his arguments on the affair of Spain, they home• dime!) , turned short round, and *minced together. It is farther added that some high words took plum oath, subject between Lis Lordship and the Remiss Minister. Another report prevails, that we are on the eve asend ing a sees of observation to the blediterrasean, in case hostilities should take place. Consols at remit are at . 791. Foaeia FUNDI.—New Spanish Bands opened this morning, at SO. Six thousand were done at that pride. Afterwards, they went up to fed, 54, 531. There is very little business doing, except ie the above Bonds. All other securities are nominal. We are informed, that the Committee of the Stock Exchange have invited se veral brokors of the foreign Market, to dine with them, ..at the London Tavern, wishing*, connect the two houses Se ether. HALF-PAST 18 o'ctatm.—New Spanish Bonds are wed Id sellers. • _. • IMPORTANT INFoRmATioN FROM PARIS. A letter i■ said to be in town, received by GI Raptwa which arrived this morning, stating that t►e Preach Go vernment have called ont the Conscripts of the year IS!!, to the number of 75,0110 meo, and all the sailors are being collected, sad immediately sent off to Brest and Toulon. The greatest melon are Buskin in France preparatory to a war. Quebec papers arrived this morning to tie ffilttk of October, from which we give the following sztraste 1— HausAl. Ode. 10.—Wi are happy to lean that orders have hide receive 4 from the Navy Tortl i ' b to beep sll tie warehouse*. wharf., buildings, stores, sad offices, is his Majetty's Dockyards Imre is peeper rn pair, sod by so means to suffer soy of them to fall late a (state , of decay. In rations parts of the states of Louisan' sod Missipippi the ravages committed es the cotton by the rot and caterpillar, are se great that the loos is estimated on an average at one half of the mop. Sic tea AT MARCELLA.—A lamestable state of at. fliction exists at the above place (io Ohio). Three boa deed cases of fever were reported by the Visiting Cora mittee shoot the 211th Sept. DECISION OF THE CONGRESS. The Paris papers of Sunday last have arrived this morning.. By these the weasel of the decision of Coe grass, which tree spired here last night, is eeefiresed.— Tite following is the style in which this eventful step is anuoueeed in the 41 fo ;titter " His Excelleaey Viscount Moutoserency arrived here yesterday (Saturday), on his return from the COO. tress of Verona, and had the honour of an interred► with the King. " Questions of Foreign politics have this peculiarity— that being combined with distant interests, their march proceeds out of the circle of habitual speculation.— I The. personsseest . practised in these speculatioes find themselvis la 4. situation disadvantageous for correct reasoning; they rennet lay bold of say decided point' per argue os a certain basis ; theysre sound' the more etposed_to be carried away in discussion far from the course of &Wes, inasmuch as these affairs are, from thei r very nature, subject to more extensive ramifications, and eottsequently.demand longer time for decision. It would, therefore, be of some advantage to know the pro. gems of these questions, at least is proportion as they ere accomplished. Thus, after such contradiefoiy en. moors as have been current on the state of our relations with Spain—after the discussions which have takes place on tbisiiezhaustible subject during the conf at heroes-wafter the indecision which so manyopposite opinions must have every where produced, we should Sod, perhaps; a sufficiently solid basis for new con jectures in the assurance that France has occupied et the Cocgress of Verona the place which belongs to her song the monarchies of Europe ; sad that the Conti nental Pow ern fence to her the end and termination of the affairs of Spain, with the intention of euneurring a ith all their force io such plans of stecution as France shall be is a situatiou to adopt. "In taking this resolution the high Continental Powers must have acted on an idea so simple and so just, that it will strike all reasonable persons ; they most have confided, for the decision of a question which interested them all, on that power whose interest in this question was the most immediate. This mark of confidence, so important for France, she own to her own wisdom, to the power she bad recovered since ideas of order have *triumphed over those dimensions and mom which have too long disturbed bet; she owes it, aboi•e all, to the virtues of her king, to the measures erbioi be has taken for placing be country in a imitable attitude to alarm the serious evens of the Peaiitsula AN . 4 . t' , ..a -•, . .4., finally, she owes it to that unanimity of wishes SIN 0 sentiments by which a whole people has recently tes• tined the confidence which it places in the Government. Doubtless this important resell toast be to all the In terests engaged its this question a pledge of security with respect to the rawificatlons which it may assume." _ . By another paper, of Sunday, (the Journal dee Delors) aro learn that Viscount Montmorency arrived from Ye. eons on Saturday night at half-past eight o'clock, and, 'CO minutes past nine waited upon the King. When he left •Verona all the Sovereigns were still there. The King of Prussia was to lea!, the same day (Nov. 22) for Berlin. The Duke of Wellington was to leave for London on the 24th. His Grace was expected at Paris in two days. Al. Puzzo di Borgo is expected on the 3rd of l December. The papers of Friday and Saturday corro.l borate the accounts of the success of the Constitutiow slims over the Royalist forces in Spain, and afford ad ditional evidence of the hostile views of France towards that country. A Royal ordinance, dated the 20th, orders the calling out of 40,00 d men of the claws 1822. The period of potting them in active service set their distribution among the corps of the army., will be hereafter determined. The military preps. rations are hastening with great activity at lllwyonna A large hospital is about to be established st St. Jess Pied de Port and at Socoa. Munitions et war continue to be disemiaarkedt at Bayonne. Letters from Mets state that 200 waggons and 100 draught horses are to be forwarded from that town to Bayonse, l The number of Spanish Refugees at Toulouse daily becomes mere considerable. Among others of varioas ranks, has arrived General Equis, with his wife :and .children, The Trappist is still there, but dues not ap pear is public. The . last letters from the frontiers of that department announce that the Baron d'Eroles' army presented themselves to the advanced posts and solicited asylum and protection, which was conceded to them after they Lad laid down their arms on the Spanish unitary. They brought with them 200 Constitution *lists prisoners, who were immediately set st liberty.— The Correctional Tribunal has rejected the preliwitmer objections which the bookseller Niogret bad pleaded le ijustification of his republication of " The Social Systems. by the late Baron d'Holbach." Sentence was Outages presteeneed against him of three months' laspriseenest. end of 300 francs fine. The copies of the work are or , dared to be seized. M. Olivier, lambast at Mancini', was arrested a few days' ago, sad was still is sweet eenlinement on the 23d. The reasons of this ?tweedier are not known. Femmes Pewee on Fame, Nov. 39.—Flve per Leese opened at ; and closed at 87f. Mk.; Bea Shares, 1,610 f.; Neapolitan Stook opened at ;Calomel at P. .SATCIDAT, Nov. 30.—Five per Cents. opened at 87f. 80c.; rose to $7 f. 90c. t and closed at 87f. 75c.; Beak Shares, 1,020 f. ; 'Neapolitan Stock, 733 f. ; Exchanges. Load**, one month, 25f. 30c. ; three/eoliths, W., lie. FRANCE AND SPAIN. ,Ilse Pails mien spree to be very fad to that Os AVIA Government can be enema ho as nsion of Spain by Fraser. Well they may, fee this Oovernmetst has beggared England, has mortgaged all the land for more than it Is worth, to get the moose of pottiog down freedom in France. It would, therefore, sow be very inconsistent, if it were opposed to the potting dotes of liberty in Spain. To be sore It I. set to be pot down there by any means other than those which would put the Spanish sea.perts and Seats isto the hands of the French Bourisons, to be, in due time, employed against England. But. what Is that, cow pared with the horrid evil of Spain being free. sad making the world laogh at Garton and Old Samar— la short (aad this is the pinch,) Gattoo and Old Sarum cannot be preserved without letting France do what she pleases. For, do what she pleases she must as long es the Debt retold., and to get rid of the Debt, we mug destroy Gaeta* aid Old Sarum; and without them Mr. CANNING cannot live: in these he " must live, or bear "ao life!" What shall we do then? Why, we owe have Mr. CANNING weeanoot live without him; so that the Bourbons most (for us), have the Spanish ports and Beets.—We several times put it to the Morning Chro nicle to say, whether it thought it possible fur oar Government to p to war without blowing up the Debt.--lt has wee ~wed us by so mach as a siogleorord.—lt did, indeed, observe, the other day. •• Alas! if we had only left the Barba* to flair fate, "instead of cherishing thesegvipers at so great as a " peace, to be afterwards bit by them, what a lourishing " oatiee we might bare been at this day."—This would seem to say, that we are not in a very flourishing state new, a thing. indeed, that might be boldly asserted with. mit much risk of contradiction.—Let as do the liorasoss pastier, however; and, if we do, we most confess. that they wort. sever “ chariwbed" by as for their sakes. ire, at last, " 0-ricked" them oat of their frontier towns and their museums, and out of a pretty thumpiog tribute in wooer. And, we thought that we bad "eke. " risked" them out of the Negroes necessary to their sugar and .coffeeplsotatioos.—They recoiled, that, at o,speed:of Amiens, we " cherished" them away to the onewinent.—And. that, when we began war again, we • eirtirrisAed " them back to England.—lo fact, they Wow, that we " cherished" them, in order to destroy hoodoos in France ; and we, in England, know, that that fresillio was bated here, because it was thought to be hostile to oar Tither and our Boroughs.--The debt was set, of bottom. contracted for the purpose of restoring the Bocasoss. That restoration was a means; but, the ultimate object war, the preservation of the 71thes and the Boroughs. —This is the fact ; and, therefore, the Bovanotes owe us no more gratitude than the hound owes the hunted, whop e Lien and give him sport. that the) . - may have their sport to enjoy. The landlords and pot-goes mast COMO to a struggle ; and, it is r °riots to see the say, in which It is begin. Msg. We have just heard of a parish in Saute, the tithes or which were worth about 90511. a year. The parish rated the puma upon the No.folk principle, sod took a large dip into the 9001. The parson appealed against tbe rate, and it was quashed. nut, there is more than one troy of killing a cat." The occupier. .L_ _ ----- v - -, MAILS. , . • ALL DUB. 'ABC DOB. 1 DOS " - 0 0 If olland . I O Wsterff. , d - 3 0 It umbra' V O O. & Jersey • V I Frump - - 0 O Lisboa 0 1 Flanders - U O Oat& hen - 3 0 America - - U PRICE of STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE (TCLOCK. Bank Stork... .....244* 4 ladle 5t0ck...... ....234 2 S per Ct. Red - ittilif Ditto Bonds 8.33a.2.35.pni. 3 per Ct. Coos. .7414 south Sea Stock.— .• .. • • 31 per Ct tin 1114onth Sea Old Ann.... .... . 4 per Cents 991 Em.13i11.2d. 2 as .3.5 - KS 11111• New Fours .. IRO! 991 hp, 1000/. S IS per CL 1797 --3001. a. 4a la pia. Long Aon. SOtt —Small 2s fes a pia: Insp. 3 per Ct.. ... ...... Con. for Aect.79i 9n S 3 790 Irish 3 per Cents LotteryTickets 251. 111. Ott XttateEintan. is iswo.,ww.T. wm. " TN' SKITISII STATESMAN" " TEE ISTATESUAN." of law i • the parisb reduced the wavy of the labourers very low. What the men could not get in wages, their most have is relief. This raised the rates enormemly. This/iron:Ai Me parson up; for, it is said, that the amount of his tpoor•rates ereceded the amount of his tithes by several hundreds a year. This i. the *roe way to come at the parsons; and this, nnless the matter be , settled by law, must and will be done all over England. However, it is very well known, that,. in former times, the tithes were charged with the whole of Me relief of the poor. Why not come back to this good old custom ? The ordinances of the Church required, not only that the poor should be relieved out of tithes, but that the parsons themgelros should administer the relief with their own /roads in charily and humility. Our parsons of the presets day are not such very humble persons. Most of them are Magistrates as well as parsons. But, the tithes are still of the same nature ; and we think that the receivers of tithes would find it very difficult to eler abound ar. gnment against scorning to the ancient custom.- They are always telling us of the antiquity of tithes. Agreed: but, then the custom of relieving the poor net at the tithes is equally ancient. That which is sauce for the goose is sauce for the garider,---see emends ge e new on Parsons sad Tithes. Besides the I eq.' edition., in England, of this termer., there have bees serer4,' • editions in Irelasi. This is piracy, to be me; bmot is pious piracy. We have seen two of these editioes: one published in Dahlia and the other is Cork. Each 'dittos has a set of Notes by the editor ; bat. Oho test it 89 plain, and so full as to the material points, that Notes appear unnecessary. Every farmer s ho Ilse a licht i to ossintain about tithes should have this sermon by heart. Then he will learn the origia and intention of I tithes ; a piece of knowledge that he will, find of great utility at this time. The Iforoiag Herald of the ether day, wild. that the Rev.W. J. 0. Pataat re, vicar of Railer, near Sootliter too, bad commenced caLtivating a tract of wastedsrA for the express porpove of siring ensploroext to tie poor We the fact; hot. the istentioos of the Rev. pe r. eon being so benevolent, we would recommends* bu to look Into the ;misfit canons of the English Chortle where he wiH Had, that it is the duty of the peietto keep Moo poor oat of the tithes.—" The tete: aye, the lea'tbeee indeed authorise poor-rates: but, is the kw. which *sly cases is supply the want of charity, to be cited,iir tweb a case, kr • pares' ! The "Former's Jaunted." is ansousolag the eon* spottiest* that has taken plate between Sir T. Leml. smalls miasma. friatastical man who la ashamed Ohl, atm% sad, thereon, calls himself " talks in this sort of manner :—" A letter has Men ad. " desand to the freeholders of the coosty of "by an ansaymoos correspondent, signisg • Strefical,' which deprecates county mettiags as " &lag mmosias M 'line-run wrileara: eiwi Wert " dhipiben of at* public peace. to make Ammo moptischss, sad 111WL•1121118 Tel PUBLIC hut.' really the substance of any part of • 4 1116- Ihrtiofirs." inter, Intros win in keeping his ammt ors tttgMtOM me ban as astrathate tbst it Man. Rom the riptolommt we have had of the Anworeolimearl,' wewn an. by so moans, laslioed to excuse the lolly din colosas es the (mead that it may belong elsewhere. The creature may say. perhaps, that, le his groat seal is fin cases of Agriculture, he was teed to read. Iridium* th air casinos Baskin ty. the letter o ISi r T. Lothinifige,sad though we are by no means inclined to deny the power of that writing Baronet to turn his reader; and. Ire Ile dray that there is soy necessity for this P.ditor's read* such weldor : nay, we are coos lent that, if be amid cosine himself to the mere daily chit-chat to he Assad is the " Old" or " .dew Times," caning frets his closet Sir T. LITHIRIDGi and Webb-1141, and all such, he would be, if not inlioitely more spritely that be seer has bees yet, certainly much less a fool. No sae can deur that the Philosophy quoted abort belongs etch.• siveir so the school out of which we 'mid, foe ha sanity's sake. take this unfortunate ono. Them, had he not better tears it ? Yesterday, at two o'clock, a Cabinet Conseil WU Mit at the Pureign Ogre, which was attended by dr Noe santerons assemblage of Cabinet Ministers as Isa Use. day. The Cabinet was suminoned by Mr. Cassisg.aad condoned in deliberation till a quarter bean tree ▪ ack. The Earl of Liverpool and the Cleaseeller of the Escherpser arrived in town in the mania, to Mesa. the 117abinet. and left, at its hreakiag op, on their rem. Extract of a letter from Paris, (received by etyma) dated Dee. 1. :—" You will see by to-Say's ifisairere. thattbe decision of peace or war is entirely left to the Preach Goverment ; sad the other four Powers of the allistrace central theinitelvesi ari•b a general testier of their confidence, and an offer of their support is ease of extremities. htuntretorency has returned w alk Al i re . suit. He arrived last night at eight o'clock. and waited ea his Majesty immediately after. M. Polite di Horse is eppected in a day or two, and will be especial'y destined to push on the' war party. As in the declare ties of Congress, nothing is recoaeised but the general right of interference, if a sogLieut case of danger or in jury is made out, no power is committed by it defini tively, or precluded from judging of the policy of Franee, as it discloses itself in the successive simasures woich she pursued. The struggle hetweee the rne and the war party, which has been for the last tiro months carried on at Vienna sod Verona. will sow be renewed at Paris. Certain of the Ministers. and the Emperor Alexander, with, probahly, the EmpeT.tr if Austria, will remain at Verona till the result of the ne gociatiuns of the French Government with that of Spaia is known. "The fonds yestenlay fell, as was anticipated. "It is said she Ch.imbers will meet oa the 7th of nuary." A letter from Paris, dated Nov.27,says—" I rectav perused a letter from Warsaw, addressed to a lereacla Officer. It speaks of great movements of troops in Pulaad, and especially in the Grant Duchy of Li —New levies of men arc raising is the provinces north of Russia, and all Officrrs absentee leave, have received orders to join their corps. Tier I:rand Duke frequently reviews the troops, anu in the rialto in which he visits, has strongly expreved his desire for oar against the Turks. During the absence of the Sovereign, the Ras dams act without ',orifice . the attention of Europe. and avail themselves of an interval daring which ail eyes are fled upon Ye ea I. in the course of October. and daring the first portion .of November , a g reat asmeher of couriers were despatched to Teheran Russia Is actively cementing her {elation. intik Persia." - • IMi M p t . I . • '! r. k. - V . , 1 t. ti t ~ ~ . • ~i '4l 1~ M~~ wifs; ahie ino of ii riot tod i 4 0 4 'p , l 3") .L . vi I 6