The Statesman. — London, England, 1813-03-17 00:00:00

_ O Ar.. Itltl r ..' . expiained. liir J; SHAW said a few words. MroFRANKLAND supported the going into a Committee on the Bill, .es all obje ctions to it, Might de done away. He warmly ed its prin ciple, as it wan manifestly wrong to let an individu als good MN be filched from him, and lea* him no redress. Let country manufacturera fight the battle fairly, but let not a man's enterprixe, talents, and capital be stolen from under him. i There were old country manufacturers who would have blushed to put ." London" on their works: Nothing was more hurtful to the manufacturing and commercial interests i of the country than suffering an ingenious man's' rights to be violated. HOUSE OF COMMONS. 1 The Hon Mr. WARD said, they ought to recol. Ballots having taken place for tbevpoiotiserit of corkinittees lee! the circumstances of the times in which our ma. to try the merits of the controverted Elections for Canavan and nuract urn were situated, which were not such as to Youghall, the following Members were amen and sworn in .. 1 I incite experiments. - Few Turks could read the For Cardigan -Sir Byre, Goole, H. Clive, English inscriptions on watches; but they considered General Phipps, Hon. W. }Mott, H. C. Conbe, S M ir r T. T Y hoolop- cs". i ' von, —__ Shutt, lOW. Geskill, J. Warre, Lord 0. Caven dish , _ the word " London" as the English mark. If P. W. Baker, Wm. Fitahngh, C. Hondas J. Ingram Logi- • it Birmin g ham's" were engraver, they might take; hart, and another Member, * • loose name we could sot learn. For Youghan—H. Cavendish, H. Lascelles, J. Re:robot- . the article for one of a very di ff erent manufacture. , He had not an equal objection respecting the names tom, W. Fremantle, Hon. W. Fitzgerald, Sir J. Montgomery, ' Lord Viscount Jocelyn, Hon. Peter Burrell, Bernie, . of i ndividuals engraved: but he understood that Wadinan. T. Barnard, Sir John Owen, H. Howard, Lord Al- . Thorpe, and Edward Foulkes. there was a remedy at common law in such cases. 1 MrBATHURST stated, that his Right Hon. Friend the I Mr. FOARES was against the Bill. Chnneelli-e of the Escheaner, being prevented by indisposition from bringing forward his Resolutions respecting l the Finance of ' Lord BROOKE apposed the Bill on grounds li the country, which stood for that day, he should move, that the m il er t o M r . W ar d. Th e Bi rm i ng h am manu f ac - order be discharged. The order was accordingly disc:frarged ; tarers were ready to meet the London ones on the 1 and Thursday was Axed for th.• House . to resolve itself into a . Com• , ittee of the whole House, to consider of the state of fki- minor points. 1 fish Finance. i M r . BARING f e l t n part i a li ty f or the capital.— Lord Ca S rLEREAGII postponed to Monday ,Isis mo- . tion respecting the Renen al of the East India Com ny P Char- The pra ctice complained of was a general trick of ter. As the Resolutions of his Right Hon. File relative to trade ;if the law did not prevent the engraving of I the finance of the country were deferred to Thursday, he had individual names, he was willing to enact something heard, and it was probably the intention of the Hon. Member opposite to postpone his m otiou which,stood fur to-morrow even- on that subjee. On the whole, he regarded the ing to Friday. ; Bill as an effort at monopoly. - THE PRINCESS OF WALES. i Sir JAMES SHAW said, it appeared to him, that Mr. WHaBiLEAD expressed his concern that of three objects proposed by this Bill, two were any motion of which he had given notice, should in- conceded : first, that Birmingham should be pro terfere with the benevolent Society of St. Patrick, vidod with a proper proving-house ; and secondly, for which he entertained the sincerest respect ; but that a security should be given to artists for the re as the evil, of which he and the House had just rea- spect due to their own name's on their own work. son to complain, grew more alarming every day, he Other objections to the Bill could be easily done trusted that the Noble Lord, and every admirer and away, and he therefore hoped for a general concur votary of that Saint, would feel more satisfaction in rencet in voting for the Committee. The riatile might seeing justice done to a wronged and injured wo. be forged, and punishment evaded, by the omission man, than its attending to the festivities of the Aiiiii- or the addition of a single letter. Government had versary, which was to be celebrated to-morrow.— a pronf-bnew in Birrninghaip, but there was no [Hear, hear!] He should therefore be in his such thing for the goods sent out for sale by the ma. place, and discharge his duty, by bringing forward nufacturers. the motion of which he had given notice. ' On a division, on the Amendment, the numbers A long conversation took place on the second for postponing the reading of the Bill were— reading of the Fire Arms Bill, which was very ably Ayes . - 78 supported by Noes - - - -18 Sir JAMES SHAW. He argued for the necessity of a law to compel manufacturers to affix their re spective names to their articles, as by that mode their different merits would be more precisely as certained, and their ingenuity and industry re. did tint follow that there was any disrespect to one House iii beginning the discussion of any important prepositions in the other. It had been to in the ta-e of the Union with Ireland, the Irish proposi tions at an earlier date, and several other measures of importance. In those, as in the present instance, from many comiderations connected with them, it had been found necessary to originate the subject in the Commons. To the mode 'of discussion wished for, namely, by means of distinct propositions em bracing the different parts of the subject, he 'agreed. With respect to the etemination of evidence, if it was found necessary to enter into that examitiation In the Commons, he should be disposed to agree to any means that could be devised by which there might be a simultaneous examination in their Lord ships' House. It was difficult, however, at the pre sent moment, to say what shape the question might assume. In 1793, when the renewal of Ihe Charter was proposed by the late Lord Melville** Govern ment, the Fast India Company were perfectly agreed to the proposed arrangement ; but lip the present instance the Company had declared their decided dissent to the measure proposed by Government, ivhilst, at the same time, those who called for the opening of the trade were dissatisfied, that the trade was not further extended than Ministers proposed. It wait, therefore, difficult to say at present what shape the question might assume ; but in the coarse of a very few days it would be brought forward by a Noble Friend of his in the Rouse of Commons, and then It would be seen what shape it was likely to take. This being ascertained, the course of pro ceeding might be determined upon, and if the ex aminatlon of evidence became necessary, he had no objection to the adoption of any measure by which a simultaneous examination might take place iu that . House. Marquis WELLFSLEY observed, that the an swers to the most material parts of his Noble Friend's speech, as to the course of proceeding, were highly satisfactory. It was desirable that the subject should, in the first instance, be submitted to both Hous-s in separate propositions, so as to take the sense of Parliament upon the leading principles, upon which they should afterwards legislate. It was also desirable, that in case the enquiries went into any length, a simultaneous proceeding in both House• should be instituted; and this , too , if he understood the Noble Earl opposite correctly, was also conceded, ivith a such a reservation as prudence naturally sug gested: The question was certainly a most compli- . Gated one in its nature, and not to be determined solely on abstract commercial principles. Every commercial question invelved a question of govern ment, and, as had been justly observed by his Noble Friend, the happiness of many millions of people in India: The subject must also be discussed with a view to the nature of our Constitution at home. It the Zollector—to preserve the worst feature of Ida homeian tyranny, instead of extending to them the advantages of British Government. This Report quoted, he hoped incorrectly quoted, two dispatches of the Directors, in which, In terms light, indeed, when compared with the magnitude of subject, they stated, " that they were in no hurry to establish the permanent settlement." What he meant to say was this, that the Legislatyre should' declate, in opposi tion to the words of these dispatches; that consistent ly with all necessary caution and enquiry, it was in a hurry to extend the advantages of the permanent set t leme n t.—Adj on rned. • - . 60 The Bill was consequently lost. A new Writ was ordered fot the county of Mo. naghan, in the room of Mr. Dawson, now Lord Cremorne. was incumbent on their Lordships, therefore, before • warded. they came to a decision on any one questiOn, to see Sir CIIARLES MORDAUNT opposed the Bill. that they understood the whole bearing of the sub- i Mr. WHITBREAD made a few observations on jest. The monopoly of the East India Company . the Bill, and mentioned an anecdote relative to Mr. i GERMAN PAPERS. Ought not to be considered merely as a monopoly Manton, the gun-maker, who had said, he received' independent of other considerations, but as one an order for a gun, from Birmingham, oti the re- Connected with the most important questions of ceipt of which he was to have an order for three 1 ---wm.-- HAMBURGII, FEB. V.—Yesterday wort** the Government ; and on the other hand, it ought dozen more of the same kind. The Birmingham Police apprehended a Russian spy, whom they . had . caused miss, watched since the 23d inst. not to be taken for granted, that much improve- people, however, instead of sending that order, The n of this man having been proved. he metit Might hot, in perfect consistency with the present manufactured similar gum; put Manton's name on plan of governing India, be introduced into the ma- them, and sent them out to the Nabob of Onde.— wa s ins tantl y handed over t o a military commission, nagement and controul of the Fast Indies, and in ' lnstead of the regulations of this Bill, he preferred and was shot the same day, at half-past four o'clock. the extension of the East India trade. The whole . the erection of a proper proof-house at Birminghaml ' The is Th seman ntencase mawas immediat taent c ly afterwar ons ds placarded. 1 hde imonfessi. of the subject must be taken together, in order to under authority. p or See what it might be wise to retain, what to alter, I Mr- The Diligence, which arrived this morning from thought it better to leave the mat- ! and what to concede to the general commerce of the ter as it stood. Watchmakers might be injured on . Berlin, met with nn Cossacks in the environs of that country, without compromising other more impor- : the same principle, and a Bill of course, would be city. The passengers were. informed, that, fatigued taut points. He thought it right to state qualifica- ! brought in, in their favour. The fact was, that ar- with their fruitless demonstrations', and finding how tions to the observations of his Noble Friend, than • tides in a comparatively rude state, were made in little the people were inclined to support them, they whoM he knew nobody more capable of forming a the country, and brought to London, where they fell back towards the Oder, in the direction of the sound judgment on the subject. With regard to the were put together and finished. If this Bill passed, S ch " edt * ' permanent settlement of landed property in India, similar ones might be expected for other trades, and • bisect! I.—Baron Do St. Cyr, Commandant et he believed that no greater boon had ever been con- the authority, and exclusive right to property arising the 32d Military Division, has received from his Ex. ferred on any country ; and when his Noble Friend from the exercise of skill, of Doctors Solomon and celleney the General in Chief the following , letter : " . mentioned Lord Teignmouth- a name not to be . Brodum, might be advanced. In these questions, . MONSIEUIL LE GENERA4—I have just learned, pronounced without exciting sentiments of veneration general views should be taken of the situation of that seditious movements have taken place at Ham and affection, as hating so large a share in carrying trade and manufactures. Watches sent to Turkey burgh. You will instantly appoint e Military C6m that plan into execution—his Noble Friend would were always, he understood, marked with the name mission, to try, without adjournment, those who elso pobably admit, that much of the ultimate be- of John Prior,—no matter whether he existed or not. ma y be arrested. Let the g uilt y be tried, and ooficial_gffects of that saealuto-wfse Prodigal by the It should ba..a._gosat occasion that minim), . Plana- ' Pstoiahed width'. 24 hours.. I entertain no doubt of. wise and cautious course of proceeding adopted by meutary interference,, bat here no proofs of such the geed disposition of the inhabitants of Hamburgh, and am persuaded, that the agitators are strangers Lord Teignmouth, his knowledge of the tenures and necessity were affordd. customs of India, and of the most proper times for Mr. MARILYAT said, he had beard some excel- to that city. I can only regret that, upon this oc bringing the measure into operation. Had it not lent reasoning on the subject; bat no objections to "IL"' the National Guard was not formed. It been so wisely and cautiously applied, it would not the principle of the Bill, whatever might have been would, doubtless, have repressed the rioters, and have been so adtantageous in its results.. As to the said as to the details. As to the name of John Prior, maintained tranquillity. Tell them, that I have Measure itself, he protested that there was no act of on watches for Turkey, that. Gentleman was his confidence in them, and that I have every reason to his life upon which he looked back with more sin- neighbour, and had, by his great skill, established believe they will merit it. I send you some troops; core satisfaction than at the share which he himself a high name, and gained a large fortune; in doing others have been sent to you from Wesel.. Woe be had in extending it to the Settlements and Fort St. which, he had, at the same time, done material set- to that Town or Commune, that should attempt to George, and other places which had fallen to us.— vice to the interests of his country. It was by cf- swerve from its obedience, and to oppose the laws.— • But even there, he thought that delay, caution, and fording the means of keeping up the character of A terrible chastisement would be indicted upon it, enquiry, might have been necessary; and though he such individuals, that the trade and credit of the an d it wou ld be made an ex am p leof to all the others. Count DF, I,IIURISTOV, • had been maim! s to extend the measure in question country was to 1; supported. The principle of the 1 o rjeserst.h t .cht e r o t• the C,nrp: or Observation of the 1..1be. without delay, he now believed that the sentiments Bill was simple and just ; that every man should en.; " latictientersb. Feb. 26, 1513." which prevailed in other quarters among persons with joy the advantages of his own skill and labour for 1 An order of the Police has just been issned, di- Whom he had often differed, were a proper correct- his Own comfort and credit. There was no differ- : reeling; that ev er y stranger who has artised here tion of his opinions ; hut he agreed, that in the Re- euce between forgery on a bit of paper or.with a . elute the Ist of February shall, within '24 hours, port 6f the House of Commons' Committee, these graver ; nor whether the material were paper or me.' present his passports at the Police-office of the pre -•.-rhino: which militated against the extension tale The latter species might be the worse ' siisee it cinct where he resides, on pia of being regarded as of the permanent settlement to might happen that i n the f or gery en p a p er the lost ' a spy, and sent for trial before a Court-martial. — had wever before been established.— night fall on another person ; but in forgery with 1 Householders letting lodgings to such persons with he agent wished to impress on their the graver, the loss might be t Q an unfonoon I out ascertainin g that the the police regulations have been the necessity of understanding the extent. They who opposed this Bill make* for' complied wit •h - , will he considered as accomplices. bearings, before they decided upon the liberty of using other people's nettles. This Buns, k'sa. i2.—lt is belieied at Bucharest, 1• they had been acczistomed to do : and' when apuri. t that the considerable force which the Porte is as .LLE said, that his Noble Friend ous naines of persons and places were engraved on i ;entitling, by ,the ensuing spring , on the banks.of misunderstood him on 'the siftiject of the ' co u nt r y m a nuf a ct ures e t t h e ex p ence o f t h e L on d on ' the Danube, has., attracted the attention of the Rus- I . `lenient. He thought his Noble Frie n d • ar ti s t s , the town manufactures wereproportionally, suns. We ate assured that the head-quarters of , , too well to imagine that he could . injured in sale end chara c t er . It was fair and just i the Grand Vizier are about to be moved back to extension of the system should be ' to let every man - have tbat estimation to which his : Sehumla. y and undigested views. Whether ; skill, labour, and employment of his capital, epti- FRONTIIMS or PRAWN: WA, Fa. 28.—50 gnat Friend or the Directors were right or Ned him. For these reasons Ite , instauce to Which his Noble Friend ' seeoud reading, Iltottid We fee the wee the mortality at Koningsborg, and is..the•envi.• OW* that tOWacde Ott WWr end ntJannorjr ) IX) The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of.—Adjourned. day. . FAANlleire l AINRCII 4.--The Generat of Divi-. Mon Rochumbeaa arrived hereyesterday. HANIBUKOINI, MAIIIMPtt I.—The Police being i n . formed, that the delay of the post from Berlin h a , served as a pretest to someevil-designing persons to report the mareit-of the Russian troops on , lfarn: burgh, with various other abanrditiee, have thought proper to contradict the above report. The Emperor Alexander, and the principal army, are In the Duchy of Warsaw. The other detached corps are observing the sorong places en the Vistula, in which there are good French garrisons. The only Russian corps which have adtanted are in presence of the Prince Viceroy, against whom they are not in a state to act. From 800 to 1000 Cossacks, driven from the villages by part of the garrison of Stettin, passed the OJer at Schwedt. 141,1100041 cm the side of Berlin : these Cossack i 'it'd the Diligence, whi c h arrived yesterday at , . burgh ; but h av i ng l earnt f rom t h e travellers, that Berlin was occ u pied by 8000 troops muter the Duke of Castiglione, and that a good garrison was at Spandau, they thought proper to retreat. By adrices arrived this evening, we are assured. I that the same detachment have taken the route Of 1 Schwedt, from fear of being cut off. We have accounts from Mayence, which positively slate, that the Dtike of Ragusa is arrived there, who 1 j is to command a camp of 10,000 mep, who are on their road frovn the interior of France. Mai eure AA its neighbourhood are crowded with troops. I The first column of the corps d'armee which will i unite at Magdeburg, will be under the orders of Ce , neral Souham. General Bertrand is uniting a ter y i considerable force, which• came from Naples and Italy. Our letters ftorn Berlin, of the 26th of February, state as follow :—" Since foriy.eight hours the Cossacks who advanced on the 20th of February to our en►irons, have retired, only leaving behind then some small detachments to observe the movements of the French army." Prince Schwartzenberg, ivh• left the Austrian Auxiliary corps on the 9th February, and arrived at Vienna, brings the following account :—that this nerps forms the right wing of the Grand Army, fol. lowed bythesth corps under the orders of Poniatowski, also the 7th commanded by General Regnier ; these corps establish a communication with the principal armies under the orders of his Excellency the Prince Viceroy of Italy. • n: n . 1: .' •.' -' 417 7 .. :.. ...111"1":311,4111611461.4.064::. :adissepe,;ses.intedsi:;.:4lk4lo:utellhatitTereburrieleweit labashqeolapa-ttetcaraer. e t tsvr a ie n e r. • • .... ' 1 -. -1,- . , ,-.. . . .- - . -.. ~ .... . •.., ~...,...;,.., .- it ..- : .e......A r.k., t . 1 . . .. . ( I , ' has . .. . deuce, tile examination might probably extend to a had adverted, he did. not at' precept co ant er :: n o - a t a h a a . of f l v h i : e o n f , f dye . *teat length ; and id the mean time it viould be yea did•not oppose whatever caution, delay, 'mid e ma i l > the M pei r.lk t . M e U n °ft , be l t I: llPe cossi sed d nn t t h 7- a pr r o l ;ed .ll _tb f a h t a nt a ree nt . lie iihnulti , i , t h h a isbe veo % ha rni ni ieu ffil a kn r, t v o ic iam tims ent to tte th d e eca : i. . . q.:i.ite that - their Lordships should also have the the nature of the subject might require ; bet *what were impewperly nee& As to the anecdo t te n.ast o w f al, the i 'aeon; of examining evidence, in order that they, he said was, that the faith of the British Government Nabob v iti min O s :d t e: e it_ Bi • did iio n as ot a appea geo r n th a n ,e t timpe bte 'night a‘Cartain all the bearings of the question. lie, was p or ought to be, pledged ,, thst the aroma should thing abOot'whertthevins • were lades- . - G pf r e ee fe k n s t :h uode olar rErdtrdsi,tpretitteds;y, *as disi osed to rendpe every assistarten to Ministers be adopted u soon as it could be conveniently Ip.l 'vote In coming luta Ufect the pr►nciple which they had i plied• But now he learnt that a . Report bad been nopely. • T ...Via AD; hi A KM! 3 9 .— e lire l i ea to r r n laid (in %cu. I madeby a Committee. of ,the House of Commons, Mr. WHITBREAD observed , that he believed Mr: - The Earl of ttirmtpoo L observed, that himself i which appeared to !iet aside the whole principle at. Manton to be a Ulan of.too much Integrity to isiveut . lt ../ anti his coliengues,were fully aware of the great im- ! the permament. settlement, and to form some avi. the story. 7 that the con . tingents of several Prinoes of the Lea portanee of the question, mad were anxious to give 'deuce of an intention to keep the inhabitants Lora G• L. fiWt.n . sed the Bill s - of our G. L. V - ..—oppo . e . Rhine, in the South of Germany, mit equipped' gue of. th e , it the fullest and • most deliberate consideration. It • lately acq uired Indian dominions under the lash of 'Mr. MAKR AT explained. . march o and ____ _i:-r.-....-• r.. ..... ! ..._ I"..ll.,lnr—tA nreservp thin worst faatura of Ma. Sir 3. SIIAW said a few words. ' : . day. as owl • wa: something whic of the principle c places where it had Upon the whole, hi Lordships' mind► tl subject in all its be 1 any single question. Lord GRENVI] ) , must have *nisi:wide permanent settlerne must know him ir ever wish that the e I, adopted upon hasty his Noble Friend strong lit t w itIOU 1 t i ) p I i 1 1 :l• ~~ ~: ~. TILE PRINCESS OF WALES. FURTHER DOCUMENTS-NOT IN THE BOOK. LETTER ADDRESSED DV 'Hell DOTAL HIGHNESS THE PRIREESS OF WALES To THE KIDD. Star,—ln discharge of the defy I owe to myself, and the gr.mt duty I owe to your Majesty and your IlluArions I have herewith trammitted a statement, • which I ent,lideutly mot will appear to prove me riot unworthy of the protertimp and f :your with which your Majesty has pteased t an. ow ins. " To be restored to that favour and protection, in consequence of a cooviction in your Majesty's mind of my innocence, pro. duce by the papers I now humbit lay befbre your *jest., is the first arts of my heart. " Grieved. Sire, deeply grieved as I cannot bat be, that ynur . Majesty should be exposed to so moth trauhle on so painful an occasion, and on my account, it Is yet my humble truss that your Majesty will graciously forgive me. If extreme anxiety ab ou t my honour, and your Majesty's favourable opinion, me humbly to solicit, ar an set of justice, that scrupulous anemias no your Majesty's part to these papers. which cannot fail, I think, to produce in your Majesty's mind, a full conviction of my innocence, noda doe sense of the injuries I have Yuffered. " One other prayer 1 with all possible humility and moiety address to your Majesty, that, as I can hope fat no happiness, • tr expect to the benefit of that fair reputation to which I know ram entitled, till I am re-admitted Into your Majesty's preseuee, and as I am in truth w ithout guilt, sufferlag what to me is heavy punishment, whilst I um denied access to your. Majesty, year Majesty will be graciously pleased to foto an early determination whether my conduct and my sufferiogs do not authorise me to hope that ibe blessing of being restored to your klajesty's presence may be conferred upon, Sire, your Ma 'jesty's dutifully attached, affectionate, and afflicted daughter-In 11‘ and subject* (Sigoed) • I Blackheath, Oct. 2, 1806." 46 CAROLINA;* SEX 1101 FA Is HIGH NIISI2I . THE PRINCESS OF RA LEI 'l'o THE KING. " received yesterday, aid with inespresible pain, yeller Mayer y's last verbal commingle:llion. The duty of statings in a representation to your Majesty, the various grounds upon which I ;eel the hardship. of my case. and upon which, 1 Con . Adeptly think, that upon a review of it, your Majesty will be dispelled to rent year last determination, is one 1 owe to my self; and I cannot forbear, at the moment when I acknowledge the receipt of your Majesty. letter, to announce to your Ma jesty, that I propose to execute that duty without delay. " After burin sulered the punishment of banishment from your Majesty's presence for seven mouths, pending an enquiry which your Majesty had directed to be made in . ° my conduct; affecting both MY USE and mg honour. After that enquiry bad at length terminated in the advice of your APjesty's Confiden tial and Sworn Servants, that there was no longer guy reason for your Ninjestys declining to recehe me. After your Majesty's gracious communication, which led me to measured that your Majesty would appoint an early day to receive me. If, after all this, by is renewed application Olt the part of the Prince of Wales (upon whose communicatious the brit enquiry bud boil directed), I now Sted, that that pusiishment to which I had been condemned during that same seven months' enquiry pm& ors to the determination in my favour, should, contrary to Ake opiaissat of your Modesty's Servants, be continued after !bat de termination, to :malt the result of some new proceeding. to be suggested ko the Lawyers of the Prince of Wails, it is timpossiik tint I can fail to assert to your Majesty, wit► the effort due to truth, that 1 am, is the cossecbasseases of say own iiustwas, and with a strong sense of my unneeriled saferingr, " Sire, " Your Majesty's oast dutiful and Wheatmeal', • " But melt bajured, Subject and Daughter-Jo-Law. (Slimed) " CA ROLISL. " Mutative-Woe, illsekbootb, . Feb ,42 1937." • The 'gamiest hem referred to i;thot dump op by yr. Pereeval, Lai Fides. hod Sir T. !slather, as ter floral WO arees Defence.—We pro on abstract of it yeaterday.