The Statesman. — London, England, 1813-04-14 00:00:00

s I, / 1 of Justice, where so much depended on the manner in which evidence was given. The only object at present was to collect a body of information on the subject, from competent and respectable witnesses. Mr. TIERNEY thought there was as much reason for having this examination conducted at the Bar of the boom as any other, and if the arguments used by the Noble Lord, and the Ron. Alember Kho had just sarliown, went to any thing, they went to this, that all examinations whatever ought to be referred to a Committee up stairs. The ideal:lance on this Committee was greater than any he ever remembered, and the evidence had made an impression on the minds of many Gentlemen, who he was Erre would not read a bulky volume of evidence, if put into their hands. The hardship, it wits said, of not having the evidence given at the Bar, applied equally or still more to these who wished to establish their claim to an open trade, none of wlen witnesses had y'et been brought forward. He tholes* to too, aid he would plead for these persons, if they wished to appear at the Bar of the House. It was possible, • however, that their evidence might be such that they would rather be desirous that it should be given:in& corner, than exposed to the broad face of day.' If it would not too much distract the attention of the Noble Lord (Castlereagh), who he , supposed was reading some India paper--.-{A lungh]-r-he wished t• to be informed, whether it was hin intention that the Select Committee should sit aftie.this night, or not till efter the holidays? Mr. PONSONBY was of opinion that the East India Company appeared in the character of de fendants, that they bad to maintain - a possession, which it was proposed to take from them, and that therefore they had a right to the mostfavourable and patient hearing. He did not Meta to offer the least Inclination of opinion on the qoesticin itself, but the wishes of the Company ought to be attended to. — Their evidence, he understood, would not last more than five or six days longer i tad whatever might be said about pleasure and relaxation during the ho lidays, he must be permitted to remind the House that they had a duty, which its*, their first business to attend to. " ns The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, it w as true the East India C t 'ompany were I.eti tioners to that House; they vier* petitioners to have the sovereignty of sixty millions of people continued to them for twenty years longer, and to retain the exclusive monopoly of the trade of Asia. He saw not the slightest ground for resisting the motion fora , Select Committee, where every Gentleman would be able to put any questions, and to cross-examine eri- I dence in any manner he pleased. Mr. C. GRANT, speaking on the authority of the Directors of the East India Company, declared that that body would think itself grievously injured if the conclusion of the evidence on their behalf were not heard at the Bar. Lord CASTLEREAGH added, that his object was to consult the convenience of all parties; nor ' did he think, that by the proposed arrangement the Company would have any right to complain of seve rity. He could not admit, with Mr. Ponsonhy, that the East India Company, or any other body. I ought to dictate to Parliament the mode of its pre-' reeding ; such a doctrine was most unconstitutional and dangerous, since the House was the best judge of the steps it would take with regard to the cases of. persons who appeared Wm e it merely as petitioners asking the favour to be heard by their witnesses.— With regard to the Walcheren Expedition, it should be recollected, that in as much as the party passions of men were engaged in the enquiry, it was fit that the examination of evidence should be as open and public as possible, that the country might hive every opportunity of deciding on a case where the heat of factjoa would obstruct a fair decision within the House. His Lordship contended, that if the object of the Company was a full, fair, and deliberate in vestigation of their case, it would be attained much more completely before a Weft ypmmittee than at the Bar. Mr. ASTELL opposed the motion, maintaining - the unfairness of sm othering ihel z :temainder of the petitioners? case, by sending iiligstairs. Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, that nothing ; was further from his wish than to do injustice to any of the parties. Mr. PONSONBY denied very strenuously ' that he had asserted that the House was to be controuled in its proceedings by the dictatex of the East India Company. The Noble Lord, is truth, was the author of all the inconvenience that had yet, and would hereafter result ; for if the examination at the bar was objecti9natile, he ought to have opposed it in Undue. Lord CASTLEREAGH rejoined, that he was not aware originally that 2 the testimony upon one point only would be protraitid to such a length, Mr. CANNING said, that 11.1 had 'regularly at tended the sittings of the Committee . , with. a mind perfectly open to conviction upon aU points bat anti: be was certain from the comMencemeni that the right of sovereignty ought not tO be taken from the East India Company, after thebenefits that had re sulted front the exercise of their authority. He had taken some pains, as the Representative of a great commercial port, to collect the opinions of them, most materially interested in opposing the Company:l and he had ascertained that it was not their wish to ba+ thei Bar the Ilor :t •1 A division was called for, were— For Lard tastiererigh's Isotlos Agaii.at it Majority On stranger, jeigr ,admitted CASTLEREAGH o hii legs!' tne Committee had comedto the I done, that would be reported to ; House would agree or disagree they thought proper. In the mean be their business to peoeeetf w ith witnesses, and to make as much ! was in their power. Lieutenant-Coiotiei Monroe was resume his ezaztinatioo. It was confirmed by a long series of years, private traders endeavoured to tr.. their transactions were productive • serious disputes with the natives.- ' by his own personal experience, those unhappy quarrels. He was a... I state, that goods sent' from this coOntiiy, _ account, were sold by public sale ; that carried them away into the interior ' • nisi: itnivln most every case where they were eas-tied-try the'pri ' vate traders themselves, ,the consequence* Sterelnin i rious and Owning. _•, About nine o'clock the House resumed, einba aro tion was agreed to for referring the fartbee!emejnii-,, tion of witnesses to I Select Committe. The qbes : tion having been put, " that a Select Colossi be appointed for the purpose," I Lord CASTLEREAGH stated, that it wool be • more convenient that the Committee should sit in House to-morrow, and that then the Select mittee should be appointed. After some 'conversation about the regularity et such a step, after the Resolution which had, been just passed, the farther consideration of the question was' postponed till to-morrow. Mr.. CANNING presented a Petition. Prom the Cotton Manufacturers of Liverpool, praying for some prohibitory measures against the importation of cotton from North America. He also 'presented a similar Petition from the Merchants oflolverpool engaged in the commerce with Brasil. finik,these Petitions ere ordered'to lie on the 41)14, ale also presented a Petition from the Ship-owners of Liver pool, to the same effect. Mr. CANNING also presented a Petition from the borough of Barnstaple, upon the Catholic Bill. BOROUGH OF TREGONY. Lord CLIVE, in consequence of the Report of , the Committee appointed to try this Election, moved I that Thomas Scrogin, burgess of Truro, had been guilty of interfering to influence the return of tiro Members for Tregony, by direct bribery, contrary to the privileges of that House. He should then move, " That the Attorney-General shOuld be di rected to prosecute him for the said offence." The first Resolution was unanimously agreed to, but, ou putting the second resolution, Mr. ROSE suggested, that it would be the better way to have him brought up to the Bar, in the first in stance, to offer what defence he might judge, proper, and that the House might afterwards deal with him as they should think fit. He doubted much whether the evidence before the Committee would be sufficient to obtain a conviction in a court of law. The SPEAKER observed, that it was always cus tomary for the House to give so far credit to the Re port of its Committee as not to allow the person re ported against to come to their Bar to make a de- fence, as if to a fresh charge. It was the custom, either to commit the person to Newgate, or to the custody of the Serjeant at Arms at once, if they in tended to take the matter into their own hands. Mr. BANKES proposed, that This. Scrogin should be committed to Newgate. • Mr. WYNNE had no doubt but that the offence committed was a misdemeanour, and that the evidence would be fully sufficient to have him convicted of it in a -Cowl of Law. His own letter, offering to pro cure thorsturn for a sum of money, was evidence of a misdemeanour as complete as thetcassid the Duke of Grafton, or the tin-man to Mr. Adding ton. He thought it would he better to leave it to the Attorney-General to prosecute. • ..; After some further conversation, on the suggestion of Mr. BANKES, it was resolved " that he should be committed to the custody of the Serjeant; at Arms." Mr. PEEL moved for, and obtained leave to bring in a Bill for the alteration of the Irish Militia Acts. Theprincipal new clause that he mentioned., was,the not granting for the future to the Colonels any al. lowance for clothing, beyond what was necessary for the effective'. Hitherto allowances had been made on this account as if the - imen.tnwere complete., al- regi, though they were often deficient by 300 men. • MG, RYDER moved, that the House -should be catiett Over on tit, iph of May, which resolution was ag t reeirto: Colonel BARRY thought it so necessary, to Ilipkwa a full attendance on the measure to whicltithe tali so. 'erred (the catholic Bill), that -biped, no leave of absence woulfl be granted to blemisben•unless on most aerious and urgent grounds. .He thought that it .would be well if no such motion should be made without a'day's notice. After a short conversation it appeared to be the sense of the House that it would be the bettep.way, that no motions for leave of absence upon that occasion _ 'thou I ' .torts, tpry smplasation.-41/0", . Mr. FITZGERALD laid, hi; words had pro ceeded from an opinion that his statement was doubt ekby Ilse Hon. General: he could not retract them, Was the Hon. General would withdraw the ex pecenerhAsh conveyed the otfensimileaning. AE'LItREA.GiII and Sir R. PARNELL , said a few words in conciliation. General MATHEW staid, he intended a charge on the Government of Ireland and he should not. retract it. I The SPEAKER said, it now became the duty of the House to interfere, and insist that each Member shouldgive his assurance of honour that nothing far ther should pass on this subject. Mr. FITZGERALD said, that nothing had fallen from him indicating a disposition to proceed out of that House, or to appeal to any other tribunal.—lie. s ready to retract what he had said if the Him. floral would disavow any personal imputation of hood or wrong motive. If such intention was : n disavowed by the lion. General, even the high dis Leasure of the House should not induce him to le SPEAKER saittothet the rules of the House peremptory. What began there must end thear. ilia sure that neither Member would, because neithele ought, to proceed further : he hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would set the honourable examp4 of beginning to give his assurance to this effect. Mr. FITZGERALD said, he would be the more ready to set the example, because he was sore that the Speaker would advise nothing dishonourable. Mr. PEELE entered into an explanation, to show that the assertions of Mr. Fitzgerald proceeded on a , supposed charge of falsehood from the Honourable General. General MATHEW expressed his displeasure at the term dare, which had been used. He must, how ever, obey the roles of the Hpuse. His attack had been directed against the GoVernment, not against the Hon. Gentleman. Lord CASTLEREAGH said be was sure his Right Hon. Friend would withdraw an expression, which it was now evident applied to an hypothetical case. Mr. FITZGERALD said he was ready to retract it, and hoped, now matters were explained, that what had passed would not be recollected in the House, nor in private intercourse out of the House. General MATHEW was perfectly satisfied, and was glad to be so, because he was on terms of friend ship with the Right Hon. Gentleman. The Report was then agreed to. The other Orders were disposed of , and the House adjourned at half-past one. morning continued journey for Paris. His Ex cellency Count Ott., is also expected on his return from Vienna to Paris. FRAPIRFORT, APRIL 4.—We have just received intellighce of a fresh advantage gained by the Prince Viceroy of Italy. The 'Prussian troops were very roughly handled in *this affair, the details of which we are expecting. PARIS APRIL 9.—Their Majesties left the Pa • lace of Elysium in the night before last, for St. Cloud. STUTGARD, APRIL 3.—The passage of couriers has be.. extremely frequent for some days ; five French ~...4Vlnety couriers, and two Austrian, have proceeded through, our town during the last three days. FRANSFORT, Masco 28.— Be sides the French Amer, which do nottease passing though onr town to jam the Grand Army, and *hose number it so considerable, that 'the: not been, daring the first 15 days of this month, much under 40,000 men, all the, first Corps of Observation on the Rhine, commanded by the Ma shat Prince of Moskwa, and formed of four divisions, consisting of 12,000 men each, has for some time been assembled and cantoned for the greater part in our Duchy, and the remainder in the different districts of the Grand Duchy of Hesse, and • the Principality of Isemburgb. The Ir. Li Guard, under the orders oT Marshal Ave .r case examined at the .r should the _ ,use slipuld be made, except at the hour whin a full at. toperai . .. , think the mode t oo t e di ous . His reason for v o ti ng teudance of Members might be expected. !the Duke of Treviso, is in (emote in this town.— for the motion 4 Lord Castlereagh was, that if it I Mr. RYDERmoved fur copies of the kastructions;This superb corps, which, on its arrival, was corn. were not agreed to, the evidence Would delay the or Lectures, dogmatical and moral, dap** at May. I posed of seven regiments, daily augments, and will i decision to so late a period 'of' the Session, that it : nooth College, iu 181.2. A long eomooation took i; quickly amount to 12,000 infantry, without recktm 2. could not be concluded, +tut! the interests of the place, i chielly on the wording , of the motion, andita i log the artillery and cavalry of the same guard, Company would be endangpie.d; .- lipeatickyllity ; after which it was ogses449. i which are cautonertio the deighbourhood. It is be. Mr. TIERNEY obser v pd, th a t if other parties i Mr. tUSHINGTON then brought up the Report ; lieved, that the Or* Corps of Observation .9018 1 were to be a ll owed the choi ce o f b e i ng h ear d b e f ore of th e C omm itte e of S u pply : th e R eso l u ti ons were • Rhine will immediately move in advance, to ma -e a Select Committee, the Corryany ought not to he agreed to till the r rant of 10,5001. for Proclamations , room for the second corps, which is cantoned in the deprived of its option of beit,g. heard before a Corn. was read. , . ; Duchy of Nassau and the left bank of the Rhine, and mittee of the whole [louse. If two whole days were I Sir I. NEWPORT and General MATHEW op, : thus facilitate the debouching of fresh troops, which applied to the subject before the holidays, the same posed the grant ; the latter of whom stated, as an ' incessantly arrive at Mayence. time after the recess n mild, he believed, conclude the ingtance of the influence which Goverament used VIENNA, MAUR *7.-.-The greatest activity still 'hole subject on the put of the Pctitionel. lover the Irish Papers, that the Editor of the Von- rill%ni in the military prepars'imis. Many troops con . Mi. CANNING explained. mel Herald, who formerly had the !benefit of the dime to march into Bohemia, to reinforce the Army Mr. G. SMITH opposed the motion shortly, as t Proc,,latnations, while he adhered tot Oovereaseet, of -Observation already collected there under.the or.' did also Mr. G KEN FELL. had, on account of his votiug fur him (General dpi of Field.bgarshal Kollowrath. After a few words froni Lord CASTLEREAQII, Mathew) at the last Election, not only been de.. — vtion was put. s , prived of this advantage, but had been puma for a flis Majesty's ship Portia is appointed to take the PUSIIINGTON (the Ch a i rman ) declared debt which waidue, indeed , but forthe best next convoy from Sheerness to the Baltic, and will which I motion bad been carried. 1 fer.grity had been given... ... last night, state; as a Certainty, th*t the ce inmaa d aut of the . gun-boats at Elsineur bad received orders not to sun* British ships of war,, or merchant vessels be 11010416 that nation. • T i. GOTTIGIBURGII, APRIL 3.—The Ca4sham convoy t is still a Malmo. - The'Dephne frigate, with a fleet of transports, .bas arrirthat Marstrand from England. It is not positively 'town whether the Crown Prince has left Stockholm. Admiral Hopetarrived on the 31st ult. in the De fiance,' Capt. Repot, with the Princess Caroline, Orion, and Meteor lambs. lEthniral Morris is haprly expected from the Sound, witt.3so sail under his convoy from Carlscrona. .1' Peterlbargb, March 1. REPORT FROM GENERAL BARON WINEINGERODE TO MARSHAL PRINCE AUTUSOFP DE smorxxsa, DATED , Tie. 14 1. 1813. " I have the honour to inform your Excellency, that yesterday I came up with General Regnier, near 4 1 1101, with the corps entrusted-to me. The enemy's corps directed its movements 'towards the town, to form a junction with three or four thousand Poles, who bad fifteen pieces of artillery, and was at the same instant attacked with that rapidity which cha racterize the Russian soldier. The consequences of this attack have added fresh laurels to his Imperial Majesty's victorious arms, more particularly as the enemy's infantry, superior in' number, defended themselves with courage and obstinacy,. 46 Two Saxon flags, which I lay at the feet of his Imperial Majesty, seven cannons, the Saxon General Norlez, three Colonels, 36 Officers, and more than 2000 soldiers, are the trophies of this victory...T -IMy,advancid-guard is ip pursuit of the enemy, who it retirlui upon Ritsohkoiro and Ostrowo. I find myself necessitated to give one or two days repose to the infantry, whO have made fenced march.., for I four following days. The enemy having furiously ! defended himself till nine at night, necessarily oc casioned us loss ; ours amounts to from five to six hundred men killed or wounded; that of the enemy was much greater. . " 4 I shall shortly have the happiness of presenting a detailed report of this affair, as well as a list of they who rendered themselves worthy of being re , commended by your Excellency to his Imperial Ma jesty's protection. FREM.II PAPERS " In the mean time I must give themost warm en -ow— logiums to all the Chiefs and troops who fought under STRASBURG, APRIL s.—His Excellency Marshal ORDER OF THE. DAY ' my orders." PrinceSchwartzenberg the day before yesterday pass. j ed the Rhine it IVilt,': slept here, and . ye_stercray"" allE PRUSSIAN CORPS UNDER THE COMMAND or his - -- LIWTENANT-GENERAL D YORK. " His Prussian Majesty has been pleased to unite the troops under the command of Lieutenant-Gene ral D'York, with my corps. The command of such distinguished warriors is to me in every respect flat tering, honourable, and a pledge for the success of the good cause for which I have drawn my sword. " For fifty years our two nations were friends: a disturbed interval of a few months, produced by the force of circumstances, bas only tended to render the friendly sentiments of our exalted Sovereigns limated. Id to draw closer the bond of union more an ~ am between our two nations. We are now united by one, by only one common high interest, by the con , test In behalf of liberty and virtue, against the enemy off the independence of all nations. " What you, brave Prussians, have achieved against us, from mere sense of duty, contrary to your better conviction, the history of the last cam paign will show. You must be invincible now your anty retptires you to fight for the independence of your copntry, for that of your King, and for your own honour. " Noble Prussian Warriors ! Let us with brotherly love and concord labour for the greatest object low which armies ever united. Ours is the rare felicity th serve t►ro Princes who only draw the sword for the independence of their nations and the delivery of Europe. 'Without any personal views, let us ac. vire laurels in common, and we shall be rewarded by the gratitude of delivered nations. " Count WITTOENSTEIN." " 11nd-quarters, Berlin, Miirch (6) 18, 1813." AMSTERDAM', MARCH 4.—A conspiracy WI lately discovered here, which had in contemplation to over throw the Government. A pensioner, Capt. Mass, had for this purpnoLc associated himself with a certain Thomas de Jaw., and drew the Warden Valentyn, Brigadier lhle, Merchant Verschur, and Surgeon Lemon into his plan, a servant of the name of Faflee was likewise suspected of being concerned in the plot. the 'qi4 :! ‘ • Mr. dm the •,. P - • . . . . - - ..""r".4 1 1 1, " . •..... , • - • .. .. . . , . , . 1 . . • . . . . . , .., ,„ • .. . . . . TH r ...,. : .. AI ..,,,„, , . . _ ''" i s ._ . 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Ma °lll l79, 1 1 : one Ca : dia, arrived ras then allied*, to.; gown% .11 his dechied'Aellons ! should on thsioraseatileliall"ts w ithin th. wall" IN •• - , • WEDNISDAT ' A PRIL 14, 1813. • ears, 'that Whenever 1-without_tkll_ALAt' L at thit House.. ---..m.: trade for thentselles . , 1 tondll -AREAGH interposed, saying,•tnat . ... -.. lye or aoistam . a i d th e expreamatt ! o f. s o. Right Hof.: Friend, though this morning, by which we have received the follo w . mo.• He bad known : *Oft nadiedignatit t - trere aimed* a sum:lo4d is. log intel ligence . — The Cadiz Papers are not of s o , i hi j o y,..loa tal k o a a cputittiOn pit open him Pliridnally I they applied to a recent a":date bi nine days, as those received on Si- , wai also enabled 10 cAle which he was sure did not exist. He hoped, tardy- rait, and contain nothing of imp or t ance.. ioantry • e ti points ; therefore, that therkwanki boa mutual and *ti u- Cortananex, Kasen 23.—acconnts ..„,....f...:..-J,„ u . ale ; doll the lisitif st ; tP7 of4Plosaiioo.--tileitri . .keer,!) • . .. . . . , loaf. n:Ab &feta nib • )....1.1.1....b.. di11...a.1.... rt_____ • He