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pared to make up their minds as to the ex ia words of the motion most proper to be adopted ; with him and others it was a matter of doubt whether this motion should be referred to the Committee of Finance, or to a new one, specially appointed. Mr. W. SMinf explained. Mr. SHERIDAN said, that in his view of the suhjef t, the matter lay within a very avow com pass. The motion of the Noble Lord was not di refired so much to public economy. as to how far the influence of Government extended to M,mbere or the House; it was therefore useless to adopt the extended motion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, by inquiring into all the pensions and emoluments rid out of the public money ;• their duty was not to musk the matter, but to shew the public what of the public money was amassed by Members of Par liament. Fifty millions had better be expended an nually in the country, than fifty thousand in the House of Commons, (public offices excepted. held by Members of that House, and which could not ' , e :!voided); because whilst Members of Parliament rr encrust-Ted by simmer's and the like. this "old prove a continual wince of corruption. He .yaed therefore to any alteration of the Noble ..orcrs. motion. It was fit the public should see . c !luny Members of Parliament received pensions • Government. It would he most fortunate it iuld tarn out that there were but few arch ; it it it appeared that there were many Memberi ..eho either direaty or indiredly received pensions, sinecures. nr reversiessa. (et their coaneaions), the would judge for themselves; at all events the question ought not to be checked Mr. HUSKISSON said. that as to himself he hal been supposed to bold both a pension and a place ; hut the fad was, he did not receive a pen sion now that he was in office. Mr. CALCRAFT thought that sinecures and reversions. as well as places granted to Arm4ers of Parliam int. ought to he known to the public, in order that tl.ey might judge on which aidl: •if the House the greatest portion of independence mated. tiodouhtedly. it would be ton much if the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Huskisson) should enjoy a place of 43G01. aeitear, and at the same time a pension of XOOl Still, however, he understood that I Gentleman enjoyed a sinecure; kid ed. it would not be an easy niarter to cast one's eyes to the Treasury Bench, without seeing those who ee_ jnyed sinecure places to a large amount. He did not approve of throwing the proposed inquiry upon the old Committee, but was for appointing a Dew One. Mr. ROSE said. that whateverrewards heha ever had for his services, were well known to Oat House and the country. He wished the proposed inquiry to be made as extensively and satisfaaorily as p.ischle. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed, as an amendment, that it sisouitl be an itlsttuaion to the Committee of Finance to inquire into the public expenditure of all places held by Members of Parliament and others. above 2001. a-year, he. Lord COCHRANE acknowledred, that it was not to be expected any great saving could be made; but the adoptiou of his motion he considered neces sary, in order to remove an apprehension that Mem bers of that Howe were samaras& by improper my. tives. For votes given in that House, Commissions in the Navy had been diaposed of. He de , l,red he had no other motive for Winging forward tots rao. t'on. but the good of his country; and if adopted. it s would he for the icivantage of Ministers, by skewing a proper disinterestedness of eondoa. It might he very weal, if. after his motion was earned, the amend. ed motion of the Right Hon. Crenilernan sh..uld be elopted, but he did not wish one motion to superieue the other. He wi,Led a Committee to be appoint.. ed. for the %retrial par csnes stated in his motion. Mr. WHI I'EVIEA I) a:1.1 other+ explaired. L•.rd HENRY po.rry argued in favour of the original motion ; and Mr. C. recnromend.d the amendment prconied by the C.oancetlor ot the Exchequer. The question being loudly called for. the House re Os Origin.4l Maisel . 61 Ag.igu.t . . . . M Ijority . 29 When strangers were re - admitted to the Gallery, we found At. Perceval upon hie less ; who, after sore turf:miry observaions. concluded by moving • Istict iastrulions be given to the Committee of Finance, to inquire it to the riatute of all ',mamas. places, aoreures, a.td salaries, arising from the puh. revenues, a. 1,1 to ascertain the names of the pers , :n4 so receiving, with the exception of oilleers hold rg Cnintnisainns in the Army and Navy. and of ali o.lllEtors of Taxes and Revenue, whose sale ri:s tent exceed 2001. a year." Mr. N. CALVERT disapproved of these in :tractions, as calculated to mtrict the exertions of the Committee of Finance. Circumstanc:s might occur in the course of their investi/ation, which • render the instructions pmp:!scd an impedi ment to those pursuits for which that Committee was app ointed. COCHRANE proresci as an amendment to the motion of the Right Hon. the Chancel. 1. , r of the Exchequer. that the inquiry of the Corn ttee of Finance should be forthwith. and that it old be limited to the places and sinecures at •-pert held by Members of that Muse and their ..I..diate friends. ord HENRY PETTY contended, that the or ' • by which the Committee of Finance was ali o •!!.(1. made it imperative on them to enter upon t.i ilvectigatiots of those offices and salaries to which the station of the Sight Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Perecval) could apply. It appeared to him to tally nugatory, and by uo means satisfactory to the noble proposer (Lord Cochrane) of the original in soil y. Mr. WYSE attempted to attribute personal mo tives to the Noble Lord, but the call of—Order ! era, I induced him to sit down. M. WILLVAIN am' CH recommended the issuers,' of the Order of the Speaker, as the most efficient method of obtaining the Returns from the d&fferen. Depar•ments of Office. The CIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explained ; Ise said, the House could not take into its consideration the fate and fortune of the measure, without observing the manner in which the Hon. Gentlemen.. who spoke early in the .1-boa • • anent they preferred given the consideration to the Committee of Public Expenditure; but the Mc mint that they found him accede to their proposal. they immediately surrendered the princiidt which they before recommended. Mr. WHIFIMAD defended the line of con do& which he had adopted. The course be pit:toed was to forward the principle of the Noble L' ,,, P5 (Lord Cochrane's) Motion, although he conceived the mode exceptiona'ile. In the Motion before the House he strongly recognked an anxiety to evade the direC't questirn. But he app?aled to the clia ratter of the proposer of that Motion, to that Houtz.. of which he was a Member, and to that public, to whom be was an humble s?ivant, whether any thing in the shape of protraCtion and delay would not create a feeling abroad dangerous to the State ; in asmuch as it tended to deceive those whose reprei•en tenets they were, as to the sincerity whichthe House felt in originating these necessary and imperative inviries retraft or evade, on spch would have no other died than that of disgracing the House in the opinion of the country. Mr. BANIKES fully proved that it would be im possible for the Committee of Finance to proceed on such diffuse aid m iltifarious obi-as. He thought the :louse should at least go the length of providing that Committee with the necessary docu ments. in Ireland they had already experienced a great and reprehensiole delay. At all events, if the motion was carried. the House would declare its opinion , and err/Lite its c.harseter from any un justified en.ros • meta. Mr. t - U RWEN spoke strongly against the Mo. tion of •he C cellor of the Exchterter. SH • lit ,AN, in an animated manner, called up in the Riga( Hon. Getlentan (Mr. P.Aceval), to state seti• t •er it was possible to persevere in his motion, after the candid exposition given by the hairma of that Committee ? If so, he would still he more surmised to End that the House would destroy its own cbareeter, an 4 disgrace itself in the public ain'te so, by endeavouring, tinier the most paltry pretences, not only to overwhelm and owe.- lay the objett which ad protested to have in view, but .iduaity to suilicate and strangle it in its ope ration. A measure of inquiry is recommended to ascertain what number of men capable of being in fluence t'y the Crown sit within these walls. It is to asciltain *tether they amount to 100 ; and to help the public attention. His Majesty's Ministers imnsedia•el produce a string of nine thousand nine hundred; and such an inquiry was for the purpose of Assisting a Comet:intoe of the Hesse in comparing the amount of the salary with the importance of the duty executed. He would ask this plain end question. If the object sincerely was to obtain information. why resort to expedients which seemed to prove that it was the wish of the Gentlemen op pite. to skulk and shrink from the investigation. If Conn influence was but small within the House. surely Ministers ought to appear impatient in prov ing it to the world ; whilst by evasynt and probable concealment, the public must be disgusted with our scheme. and our delusions. With respea to the motion of the Bight Ho.r. Gentleman, it gave infor- M4llOll Whlen could only tend to mislead. The army was in a certain degree under the influence of the Crewe. and it wee wed known that the exc. ss of bounty in rot restr•cti•ig the investigation from the higher departments of the revenue, was ideal ; as certainly men, who e mid not be in Parliament, were not comprehended within the principle of that measure. w'rich all apmsred to approve. Mr. BIDDUILIII so •Ite against the Motion. Mr. WILE!. LACE tn f ',oar of it. Dr. LAU.- RENCE said, the present And in was to •Ime the cleft Ana he,abfit, of inqu , r7, in the exuageotts d.s. cucsion so unr.ecestrrily involved The SOLICI tOtt.GENEKAL for BCO LAND dietl rri _as* . 'oteit 1 esciedly in favour of the Motion propo.e4 by t f.e C.••aneellor of the Exchequer. Mr 14 EN air M A nTiN supported the Amend ment of th- Noble Le (Cochrane). Mr. ROSE slid. toe Account the Noble lArd sougit foe, bad been repeilledly laid upon the table. Mr. CALCRAF r observed, that the great ob ject was to know the amount of the'several emolu ments enjoyftd by pehons in those situations. He thought there was no great difficulty in the matter, and there were tan ways in which it might be easily accomplished. the one was, that every Member might send in a Return of such Places, &c. as he enjoyed; or there might be a Committee appointed for that sole purpose The real object was, a Liu of those Men who were dependent upna the Crown; be did not know of any thing invidious in this sort of return, except that the Gentlemen opposite might feel it a disgrace to hold such grants. The Hon. Member for Yorkshire (Mr. Wilberforce) had stood forward in a molt conspicuous manner on this occa sion ; he threw his shutid over the Gentlemen oppo sit •. as if to protect them from all attacks upon this suoject ; hut, however he might compliment the Chancdlor of the Exchequer upon his &verity, he reqe!ted he could not equally compliment bun upon his sincerity. After some explanation by Mr. ROSE, the ques tion was loudly called for, and the House divided, when there appeared Fur the Cn v aCumUot of Uwe Enchoquir's *abort 101 Assume it 6 ,1 . . • lAajneity . 41, The Bill fur. Prohibiting the Grant of Ofßces in Reversion, tcc. went through a C)mmitee, and was ordered to be taken into further consideration to morrow, in order to give Lord Henry Petty au op portunity of proposing an intendment relative to Professorships in Scotland. Mr. HENRY MAR.PIN gave mice that he would, on Thui slay neat. move far a I„;st of all Pensions, dm paid by the Paymaster General of tt.e Forces, and of other Pensions. not payable out of the Exchequer, since the year 1803- Upon reading the Order of the Day for the second reading of the American Indemnity Sail, Mr. ROSE said, that there was an understanding between him and a Nable Lord (flowick) that this Bill should be now mad a second time. and be de bated upon the question fur the Speaker's leaving the Chair. The Bill was accordingly read a second time, and or eyed to be committed to-mon ow. The bther Orders of the day were then disposed of. and. at ‘ 1 .4.--T..._ l _ . •• •• • • • •• • For Mi reWen no, klttlligeoce a *tut THE BRITISH PRESS. 1.00 DON, WEDNESDAY, JULY S. ARMISTICE RETVIFEN RUSSIA, PRi.NSIA, AND FRANCE Advices were rec-ived, yesterday, from Ham burgh, communicating the Imp-runt intel I - gime, that the French bad entered Tilsit on we I gth, that the Emperor of Russia sent Gene- al Bennigren to Bonapaite, to negociate an At misixe. and that a separate Peace, between our Amei France, appears likely to take place immediately. The accounts of a Revolution at Constantinople are confirmed ; several of the Ministers were mur dered. It is said to have been the work of Sebas tiani.—The partivilsrs are as follow BANK% Or TIC ELIE, JUNE 30. Fict p. U. This m nrsent the French Minister at Hamhargh has received front Berlin, Irons Glneral Clark e the follavviag Inert important intelligeitee " 111111.1111. Joss 28. I , An Armistice was concluded on the 24.1, be tween Ruin* and France. One of the Articles mentions, that hostilities shall not commence till a month after notice shall have been given. " The French and Prussian armies are to con clude a separate Armistice within the interval of the See days following. “ His Majesty, the Emperor of the French, and His Majesty the Emperor of Russia, are imme diately to nominate Plenipotentiaries, to negaciate in the great work of peace: an exchange of prise. nets will take place immediately. The limits of the French and Russian armies, during the Armistice, shall be from the Curibch Had, dreTnalweg of the Nielsen. and from the left bank of that river u.) to the Mouth of the Araina at Stakbin, sod pursuing the course of that river to the Mouth of the Kobe/, following this rivulet through Romano, Lipsk, Habin, Dolitawo, Gomadz, and Wyru, up ti the Mouth of the Ro bra in the Narew. and from thence ascending the lett bank of the Nareir by Tylyoczos, Surasz, Na rew, to the frontiers of Prussia and Russia. la The limits in the Frisch Nehrung are to be at Nyweg." &mid of a private letter from Altona, June 26, S:veral Lat,..fieles have reached Fiarnhurgh, from Vienna, with letters from Christian merchants in Constantinople, announcing that the blockade, by the combines British and Russian flue% of t.ke DAV' &wiles, and the Sea of Marmora, has had such an effea en the Turkish capital, that the inhabitants, reduced to a state of absolute famine, have risen against the Government, murdered their Sovereign Selira, and his Son, and raised his nephew Mustapha to the throne. The Jannissaries were the Ch ie f in. strum:nu its this revolution. The Seraglio has been forced, and all the women that had influen b in the G-Jvernment were violated and strangled. In this number the Empress Dowager Sultaness (Sul tana Walida), is included. General Sebastiani, and moo of cat French OtSeers and Engineers, are said by some to have been included in the general proscription. fbe Fungi Coeur Gazelle, t.'l•3tigh the news was the general talk at Vienna, on the 17th inst. observed the profoundest silence on the subjetli." Some of the Ministerial Priors astute their readers that a the Opposition intended to draw, on Tees day night, in the House of Commons, a m Est me lancholy piaure of.public affairs, such as would give confideace to our enemy, and dispose bins to be more resolute in his effoits to bring this country upon a deplorable level with all others that have fallen into his power ; and that the Right Hon. Gent, man who moved the Standi;:g Order for the exclusion of strangers, was impressed with the clinger resulting -irons such a gloomy represen tation, and the hope with which it might in spire our foreign and domestic enemies."—This is giving up the question at once, and aduth ring that our case is desperate indeed. Other Prints of the same tribe affea a little more courage, and venture to assert, that the exclusion %vas as unfor tunate for the present Ministers as it was fortunate for their predecessors. Mr. Met.was, Mr. CANNING, Mr. Psacavac, and Mr. Witasavoacx, having made most able speeches." A Ministerial Print of yesterday says, a Mr. WIL OEN FORCZ strongly exhorted the Nobility and Gentry of Ireland to use their exertions to initial and improve the con dition of the people of that country, observing, that it would go further to preserve the security and peace of that part of the Empire, than any political measure that could be propused."— This is not the first time that Mr.Wisasa twice has used this argument, and perhaps; it the ahle spt echos delivered by Viscount Hosincx and Sir Joists Sa- , - 711VINT,111i. • • The dare* QiNdlias#4 o catiarlisestittro al ludwl Nt. • t4 b hir W .11‘111 '1 / 1 04C1I-eIOASS4 . e.Iif 4.10 .1" 131-toi . )11. 17'40 MO !Vent IA! . EINAi.IOIII. .that tree 'valued. iron firreo• - 4 an * • drop of ink in pen; b. it sly lr ve retolle i• f !hat the 1)o:t ),•, • .ea aeltettir th...eff•zt of graotio‘z the .1a 'al.. • ? •risa•ered o t :A! • e audl-.ls parry deprecated it of th ug,s. " bees's* it w take the Cath lics erttiroy ~ut of their ha" ' erhorration to the Nobility and Gen.ry of e hod, to improve the conk on o' if pelpl T '. is a political receipt to cure alt the co-tsp/aVnts of tint enu"try, is cgs illy fallationt. It is an 4•l•lfni-nt threetly .he II lion, bet•atist the U.s. ea,h renderel nit cure Tess praaiea'sle. The Pe .;de of Ireland were told, tha! by Os • Uni•ns VielYinte4usts would become great i n renal concerts, a : f o4le is of great imperial deli .er .n. Mr. Ws urine coact sow says, that re Ire, is more properly in the tun Is of their resident ti 'odor and G.• it ; and if he he carrel, the I • i,.t ere left to cansellale, that the boasted virtues of tb. we'reronly a pre tence to transport their Parliament out qt 4 1 . 4 r ••• - niCr fly. leiides, if the Casolic Qoerinn was imp it does not tallow that there ;trek not other **Age which the L gislatore rettit, with proprie-y, for the henes: of Ireland ; and yet. with the czetlitiow of Sir J Ni.wroar's Cora Intercourse Bill, ea: a single a.a of any rnagnitnie has been done in the title st , ?rit of the Union, since the accetnplishmeni of that t 044. sure. rt. • Ministerial Pi int. having given Wit.. ot a r ouc artuto .nt again -t Catholic Qaen: ion s we have c,nlv tared it only fair to remind nit iesders of Sir JCPs4N vtwroar'► answe-. They also extol the impassive answer of Mr. Nit taus to Mr ° Ws tre •29LAD ; but when it if consiti .reri th .t Ir. Klit s‘s isa very yiturg rntn, and --. sia rnooths a Me.W-ser of ?arii4rnent, the pet‘t - will be ail's, to estinlate the cAniour of the w assert, that the hiftwrere lost mire dial their oppo tents by the suppression of the debate on blondAy night. Lord CATIKAUT and mita sailed Ms may, from Yarmouth, for '`"3lsinvd. The ay& frigate. her R. 3yal Wetness the Duchess of BaUN4W: .:K. only trviving sister of ~ or rest Gracious Kiwi, on bo.rd, arrived on M isrs at four o'cloc!:, p s.. Of Cfravesenti. Her Rev a t Hsi:amass land-.I yesterday months!. at ere ett'acks and went immediately to the N-w rare: n, where every preparation was made for her • . Th. Y , 3lantetr Arsdlat y.. and the-.l.aght 4n , ./ y go, teers, were out, to chew Ali po , si'ale repssia t, her RoYaL 111011111111 L The gone. frown the lin-s at Gravesend. and also at rilhary Fort, were fired in honour of the occasion. The Cbde :waned her yards, and saluted. The Mayor and Corpora.ion received her Ro•ist. Hum. en with all due flrm. and eagerly te;:iicd th-ir repel to this augrast rumness. who see-ne.! to be deeply selsihli at :hese jeer-es/train's; of regard. Her !Lovas. H 'QUOIN quitte the place in the Pnneess . of Watts's car.. the, with bee attendants. for Blackheath. His M %Airy is ezosSed in town, this day, to hold a Court at the Queen's Palace. Yesterday. the LORD Vlarna ordered the price • of bread to be continued at 1141. the Quartern A Common Council will be held oa Friday, for the dispatch of public business. I'he introdigtion of pure and salutary Gas Lights seernd at last to hart been taboo up by teen who must prove an honour to any age, country, or inn. We record wit's p!eA•tti thy Doke of ARNDT., Bishop of Ltanntrr. Viscount Au .nta. Earl of WAIINICE, Right HOD. Xist.t•tsio, Adsni•2l GA RON Si, KIM GOO. CA iti.stotr. Bar to WOLIRR ; Sirs C. Bales. W. Posron. M •is Counsellor Corer; 1/7.vagris es, COCItERRI L, Tuoursom, To a rots. W 41114 krona, Nu a La:- and G•at •• r. gurs. J.• Jars Jansen. Gt. •en ANT, TSKRICIL &C & . ; names which we havt• noticed in a list of several hundred; ttf the Nobility. Grath, Cletey. Merchants, Beakers, and respeftable Tradesmen. A Letter from St. Helena, d tied April 2s, says— The Expedition sa;led from the Cape of Good Hope on the 7th inst It was considered as certa;n we were grl'a inn - sae Indian seas, and the opi nions 11'21e 1146 - .0.1. as .0 C. IT final dortination. wbe char Moonlit, th.• Isle of Flint**, or Lima ; Ylanilla wa; snort generally belie-et, set 1 Isle of France is strongly fortified, and even the F-enc' shins are ob lit:ed to be towed. int , " he ho; hour t out at ;a events, the force u- ter General eraocurd et Al not take it. The Lie;ttenai.ts ^f Eh- . ••• tr thonght we we-e going east ahem to L would be along .r voyage than rocnsi Cop- ; : ;n, but a much safer one ; and it sr:u'..! :se as. possible to attempt going r‘a.nd C av e it,we for them three months. Yen may ru.rrne. we wane all much surprised when the Ad,tiral shved his coarse for Qf. Helens, wnere w • artieer on the Slid instate, end win I. s'e it #o4 ' CI" rain on Sunday neat ; but for went pi ice erg o e knows. Our coining here from I now sur prises every one, and a report is in eirc ;that., Mat th,• F.xpedition is broken up, and Nat a ;at of the tr-ops sr- suing the West Ino•re, a• J the rent tinder to use Med;ter-rn.ao Fr... th.- ••t se we have steered, one would be inelf... 4 to Aft• destination wee' cl.itc red ; bu, IA .1 t'.. o let think we 'will see . its Arm ; fours that sailed !e.t.a E ,wl.rd sit: , e• to, ed. tad Ad•ulfai Mart has lanst..l hi, d. boorJ the. Peivatteasar. t en' . • • 1 p.