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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. MOUSE OF LOIWS—MoIDAY, MAftca id. " . .4" ' The Bishop of .CARLUILE took the oathr sad his seat Mr. Ikea mute brought up dm Orders iu Cuenca fain sod some other Bills from t►a Commeruld. The Earl of Su rroilt puttpeeedisit motion fx certain papers relative to the Cupeuhegen Rif editeme, eatli M. ay next. SWEDEN. Lord MULOKAVE rose to correct an opinion lie lead previously given, restireting the nature of the existing arningeinents Ixtween this country end Sweden. He did ou a termer evening give ent en seer tel a question of a Noble Earl (grey) which appfred to couvey an introccsaiou cot — stnir) • to the Ifiiit'i eamely : that there existed its force previous ittigagemtuite to these entered iuto by the late treaty. .fati (3ast' said a few 'words in reply. Leadllawiitsauite rooe,ter the purpose of mow. drag the eider of the day for ha:Mg into cronsideta tion His Majesty's Message, tektite to the late treaty concluded between this country and Sweden. Ile did anticipate that from the manner in which lie should. eitlettat the question to the House, there could be no objection to the general propriety of the Address. which It was his duty to move. Sueeou:s and support were cleaned for an ally who *midst the- cisanged and alienated state ally the i ise Continent, had preserved, with unite Noble Sdetity, all its engagements wi th Great 'ten ;a , Aden), for which that power ass now enacee with attack., no t front France *lour, but from that . tary,,overeign (Russia) so latety an chi.* amity 'with her. With respect to the subsidy proposed, it was grounded upon similar principles as that granted by this country to Prussia in the seven years war, with this difference, that in the present Instance tile amount was to be paid in specified instalments, a eirciiinstance which gave this coun try the advantage of taking care that the provisions of the Leidy for which it was paid were fully and literally executed. There also was a point which he wished the Horse to uuderstand, that though His blajesty'aGoverninent felt it now their duty to *Make this proposition, there was on their part no previous, exertion made to prevent the Court of Sweden from contdudi . ng a separate peace with Fralier. This proposition stood recommended by the most pressing consideration, that it was per fectly indepeudent of any views of aggressiou, and was purely recommended by the feeling of that nacetwity which culled upon this country to defend its eaiti and surviving ally on the continent of Europe. The late treaty comprised the whole of the engagements iu force betweeo the two coun tries. Indeed the former arrangements became determinate on the sreacniition of Stralsund, be came they were entered into - for the 'specific pur pore of enabling 11i% Swedish Majesty to defend Swedish Pomerania. On every view of the sulqect, whether in reference to the high character which this country had unifortaly supported, or in sym pathy for the situation to which our ally was re duced on account of his fidelity and devotion to the CO4llllOO cause of Europe, it was with the sesougest hopes of an unanimous assent, th a t be 11Ro owl their Lorelei: i pa, a That an address lie pre. seated to Ili. Majesty, assuring him of their cheer fedly equal-4in with the object of his gracious Message." Lord CsatertLLE expressed his acquiescence in the matinee in *hitt the anbjeet was introduced by the !fable Lord. Whatever opinion he might en tertain of the advantage to be derived from the icnt, either to this country or to Sweden, he still wiling to afford menthe'. proof to the Coati. Beet of the disinterested feeling of this country, in acceding to every expedient calculated to give it iely chance of restoration from the thraldom under which it suffered. Still, under the present state of the world, he had little to hope from the exertions of Sweden, because he saw no probability of ulti mate success from any attempt of that power to impose and des pmt the dangers with which it was menaced. StilY,' comp aratively small as the sum of - . E. 1.200.000 wan to this country, when referred to the other maims upon it, yet the Legislature shookd pat*, before it made any unnecessary call upon the already burdened perm*. However, as it was placed upon the character of the country, be did not object to the pecuniary part of the grant. There was also another observation of the ?folds Lord in w%iieh lie was glad to have the oppor tunity of acquiescing, namely, that no impediment or olistwele was thrown by the British Gorernineht to prevent the King of Sweden from concluding an honourable and separate peace. On that principle of action he so far approved of the conduct of His liaj ,ti's Ministers, and felt surprised, that in the last provision of the• present treaty, they should lose sight of the same policy. He alluded to that obligation by which both countries hound themselves not to make a separate peace. Such a principle was important, indeed was vitally essen tial, where hetisiern the parties executing a treate.a tecipomlty of iatesests elated. - it se-situated ono Sweden war, couhl any man assert that such a re cipreeity was at all in the consiel:ration ? l'he nee. trisny, on the part of this ce.eatry, in its arrange atrial. to take care of Its allies, was universally felt ; indeed the feebng had on all occasions been main fftte.l; but he could see no utility, but rather pro bably evil. in clogging the stipulations of the pre sort treaty. by making such an obligation irnpera tiVE on a. power under each difficulties. in a variety of views. as Sweden was at this moment. The ye ti:mire to any other assistance which this munitry might be ineloceil to give, would be a subject for a future ho therefore! should hare tor ob retiiiii to the grant, merely as a proof of the gra titude and disinterestedness of the country, at the same time that he mmrehended it mould reedier serTiCrObit to Greut Britain or to tia e.len herself. • The Adams.. ruttier the cheerful artpuieAcence wf their Lords Lips to I fir Majesty's 51errage. was tben pot mud carnal. JOHN GIST AN D. coneetinenot ef hi* *miner •rtain uyispitpressiatations, in ennieritience 9f I.i. h-v.. elurin.g C , .‘e•:it•st alas thlt irotividuAl ou th.it octu.-ion Obe.dieliee to the itt.4trtic from Alajti:y's 60- vernspeut at this side ef . .tlse eater, it we. in the recollection of the House, that about the month of Mardi, in the year 140,e, it determined upon bt t fi e Rowell catholic, of band, to petition the tirlature far the repeal of the restrictive laws at Resent in force against them. -„They,biel come to ttiisdecisioo, m ceuserioguce of the resolution of a Orivate meeting of soron.pf the moweeapectable of that'body. About thut period he he a d received Noe the Noble Baron °poem; (Lord Hew kesbury) thin Secietary'Of State fetAe Home Department, frequent instructions uposs the ,hue of conduct *HUI' it was the wish of His Alejesty'll Go vertittient he 'behold pursue in Ireland. In one inetance the 'Noble Lord expressed, that it was the intention of Government, a hatever opinions they might entertain on the merits of the Catho lic Questiou, to mist its success at all eveuta.— Such an ex pi esokin of their intentions he commu nicated to a Nobleman who stood high in the con tideuce and respect of that ,description of U's Ma jesty's subjects. He alluded to Lord Fingal, than whom, either in this country or Ireland, there was not a man of more high feeliuge of honour, of more sincere ettachinent to the interests of the United Kingdom; and he would recommend to that House, and to the Government of this coun try, to pi.y every possible deference and regard to the opinions and statement of that most respected Nobleman, on any subject on which it who consi dered by him his duly to give them. Wheu the Noble Secretary had made • such a communication, be also accompahied it with' a recommendation, that every exertion should he made, and every in fluence directed, to prevent the agitation of that subject by the Protestant Gentlemen of Ireland; that the discretion of the Irish Government should be employed to prevent county meetings, or hoetile re solutions from,the Grand Juries : in a word, that the discussion should be limited to both Rouses of Par liutnent. In coufortnity with such an inseruction, so wisely and properly . made, be used every proper me ins tiquard against the occurrence of such dis cussions. And as he knew that there were in the city of Dublin some persons with whose influence among* the inhabitants he was well acquainted, to them, and *particularly to the able and respected Keeo;der of that City, the wishes of Government were made known. Indeed, upon the occasion, care was taken to have that opinion communicated to Mr. es'iffard himself. The Noble Earl then real . two letters ; the first was his owp answer to the coininunieation made by Lord Hawkesbur'y tc him of the whims of Government. He would have read the voromanicatiou itself, but had received a ' private intimation from the Noble Secretary, that he would oppose the reading of it. The next letter wa-, the correspondence of the person employed to inform Mr. Giffard of the wishea of Cfisvent me 4. In this fetter Mr. Giffard was reported to bare answered. that he was determined Cu rise the Papists a licking in the Common Council of Dub -1 his. This, at least, proved, that this person was not dismissed without any previous communication of the wishes of Government. It was also well knout,. that he was supposed to be a kind of organ of the intuitions of Government in the Common Council. And here he would ask, was it not the duty of the Irish Gmerument to avoid any appearance or wish of indulging in any calumnies against the Cetholic. , ? Al'ould it be proper, at a moment when it told them that their prayer would be opr posed, to add itimilt to refusal ? He had adopted the measure of dismissing Mr. Gifford, because he thought it his duty to carry into effect the instruc tions he had received from this.country, and with the propriety and value of which, from his own local knowledge, he was fully impressed. And he had further to state, that that dismissal had met 'the approbation of some of the best friends to the uiteretta of both countries, and to the Pro testant Establishment, as well those who were in office. as others who were foully uncon nected with Government. 'Having raid thus meet, he thought himself in candour bound to state, that he subsequently understood. that froffelhe representations of nene Protestant -Irish Greglimen at this side of the water, this proceed ing did sot meet the full approbation of the Noble Secretary. He had received a letter from Mr. Vansittart, the then Secretary for Ireland, to that effect ; with respect to such representation, he must first state, that tie considerhimself, filling • high office of responsibility, a more competent per son to judge of the propriety of that conduct, than those Protestant Gentlensen of Ireland who made the representation. The Noble Earl then read the copy of the Letter which he transmitted to the No ble Lord, on reciiving such an intimation. In it he expatiated on the absolute necessity of avoiding any effort on the part of Government, at a moment that it was about to refine their petition. to io suit the feelings of a description of men so tamale mus as the Irish Catholics, composing as they did the greatest proportion of -the militia, and of the Irish yeomanry. The Noble Earl after this satis factory explanation of the whole circumstances of this transaction, concluded by moving, " That there be laid before the I louse, Copies of all cor respondence which pulsed between the Secretary for the Home Department and the Lord Lieute nant of Ireland, in the year inoz, relative to the mesas he should adopt to prevent discussious battik to the Catholic Question." _ Lewd II A%III.6IICRY alu►itted the accuracy of the Noble Earl's ►tatement, hut still for a variety of reasons felt that he should oppose the limbic firm of those papers. With respect to the trans action itself, the opinion he had entertained was, that it was proceeding too far to punish so sc►erely the mistaken seal of Mr. Gifford, fur raistalicii he certainly mint call it. He assured the Home, that his recent at►pointment was totally unconnected with any political view, and discarded all , intention of holdicig towards ally description of subjects any iiitoletttht condui-t. The appointment of such a charted' as the present Victual of that country, was the unsisswemble peoCiAct uo such dullu sitioti eiisted op the tarilo4l,fts Majesty's tic,- veruniemt. . Kid !fiat:micas obserxel, that is compliance with the forms Howse, it was necessary to matte; a specific motion, in order to possess the invilits of maki ng a tine s t atement o i t h e f acts , in siaiwcr po tine tnistrpre,entrtions which had tttWit fimn what passed w another place 411 lite Inellllre. Flavin?, matte that statement, 'he bad no objection to a ithdraw his asotioo. Lord GIENTILVII expressed Isis' regret that the seine laudable motives with which the - NobleSecre. tary was ai tuated, in the year 1865, did not ope rate with ham on a more recent occasion, when the necessity was aggravated, and the occurrence of an irritable discussion more likely to be attended with mischievous etlixts. Hr felt that his Noble Friend had fully proved, that, in his conduct toiiards this prrsou, he had acted in strict conformity to the spi rit of the instructions he bad rewired, and, there fore, he approved of his disposition to withdraw the motion. _ It was unworthy the House to have its time taken up, after such explanation, so full and convincing, with the case of any individual, much less of such a person us Giffird. He had only to observe, that his re-appointment war, in his opi nion, ill-timed, and not corresponding with the hprinciples of policy which the Noble Secretary ad now professed. The motion of Earl Hsaawscitz was accord ingly withdrawn. Earl ILttnwte PCS. in notice, nllttliod to ,•c^ which had Know ithrnwl i 'Wiz removed Sir. I.iitirt in !rebind, front I %item' held. under the ('rown. flardoilicil LAI arty.' it ti ca , had then receile ORDERS IN COUNCIL • Earl Balla tea moved the first reading of the Bill founded on the Orders of Council. Lord GRENVILLE rose to a question of Order. lie first requested to have the Standing Order of the House read, which declared it to be against the privileges of that House to have any Bill, levying duties, sent up from the Compass, with pro visions of other description, such as matters of and cruatoercial regulation. He argued that the. Staading Order was directly at variance with the present Bill, and called un the Haile to support itis own privileges. TJse Collimate Abe tenacious of their privileges with respect to uskiey • hills; and be trusted their Lordships would evitica a proper jealousy of their own rights. But the Standing Order stood upou its own intrinsic merits. It had existed more than a century, and was wisely adapted to prevent an evil which was introduced in the profligate reign of Charles the Second. when the money of the people was raised under false pretences. The Noble Lord then dwelt upon the propr:ety of deciding this question of Order, and of enforcing it, however important the niestsure itself might be. He concluded by moving, That the Ball should be rejected." Lord HIAMINESBUILY saio, he would be as far from, wishing the privileges of the House to be in fringed, as the Noble Baron; although he tboaght the measure a good one, which he would vindicate and support, yet if he conceived that any part of the Bill was • violation of the privileges of that House, he would set his face against it; and would feel himself obliged to the Noble Lord, for guard ing its privileges: but lie thought the Noble Lord h.nl been premature in bringing forward his mo tion at that stage of the Bill; it was not usual to discuss the merits of a Bill, before it was printed, and had received a first reading ; Le would, how ever, if the Noble Lord mthientell, move fin. the Bill to be printed, so as evr ryNoLle Loot would have an opportunity ofexamioing it; and would ale, then give notice, that the further discussion (lithe Noble Baron's motion, sloatild take place on Weditaidey next. Lord GegyvlLLlt expressed his setiefactinn at the handsome manner ID *aids the NohltSe of State had come leeward. and expressedrirm rt s a e r if happy in complying with his proponent!, Viscount Stostourn, in a very comelimentary speeds to Lords Isirenville and Havikesbury, he was pleased torte both sides of the HOuse join ma a question °leech suouseut.as its privileges. It was not • question that party should have any consideration in. He hoped that the lionise would keep sacred the privileges which had been handed down by their ancestors. Lord . Illevratsecatr then moved. "That the Bill should be printed," which was agreed to. Viscount Siemoteru rose, aCCOTIVIU4 to his uotice on a previous occasion, to obtain information no q subject in which he was interested, uo less from persoual motives of humanity, than from an ardent wish to endeavour, as far main him lay, to relieve the character of the country from an imputation of the most flagrant injustice. He should feel perfectly satisfied, he said, could he obtain the information he required verbally, or even subject to souse trifling possible inaccoracies, on the mere statesuent of the Noble Secretary of State; he was unxious this in formation should compose not only the number of ships brought into our ports in consequente of our late disagreement, and previous to the war with Denmark. but also the amount of the property embarked in those vessels, the number of men found on board, and the directions and instructions issued ruder which they were detained. If this could be complied with, it might save the trouble of debete, and ticilitate him in bringing forward some motions for the purpose of redressing the in juries sustained by an unoffeteling people. sedu lously employed in commerc e , an d totally without any expectation of hostility. Lon! Ilewessavav, in answer, conceived it al moat impossible to satisfy the Noble Lord en the subjeet,usider • * circumstances, es several of these vessels, though etained, vet remained condemned. He thought the chair would. in it s proper stage, be cleared 'up to the satisfaction of the House. Lord NIULGRAIIII felt surprised at the Noh!e Lord's request, since the subject. he enneeirtil, waned require a more minute examiontion. 'Viscount SIDNOUTH made some observations on the propriety of grouting tins information. as he wished to bring forward his motion as soon as pos sible to the Hawse. He intimated his intention to call their Lordships' attention to the sul.,*(:t ou Friday next. 1.0;11 RAlllo , ll'lll' strongly deprecated the idea of hurrying any explanation on this Aubjert, which required time and calculation to afford; he .ual i ested the propriety of presenting an accurate accoinit, if any, and he had no doubt that stateineutN wliti.h had been already made of the prverty would be found wonderfully and extravabautly a ex tett. li Ti ra sewunt S18)101'131 said, he should not have proposed the present method, if he did not ...it cei‘ e it would have been nnmediattly accede-41 to by the Noble Secretary. The statements he had wade, he obierved, 14 hail tuner asserted to he nceurate, with such as p:iblic report bad g i% .1, he had been coinpelled to be content. He shoti.d however call the attention of the House to that part of the information he hoped would be comp:it'd with, on Friday next, and he should move .4 That the order of the day, on his tnetton, ba disehar g q: in order to leave open on that day an oppertutii:, to an other Noble Lord to substitute any ovs: order for the purpore of expediting the public bt: shiers. 'ftir order was on his motion discharged. The miler of the dii , for the third reading of I.ord Lake's Annuity Bill was then read ; wheii Earl tisosyssoa rose for the purpose of pressing the sentiments be entertained oo this sub jest, even at this late stage of the measure. H e NUS on all occasions an etAhusiastie admirer norit in the military or naval defsiders the: country. No hohoura could he too great, Imy reward too munificent fur the Legislative or Execu tive to heap on then% But though be admitted their iwrenrial claims, he by no mean conceiv e d that the proper and peronial virtues of the father bemuse an inheritable claim, in most ire stances, to the child, on the gratitude and mein , tenet of the country. On some extraordinary oecasionli, it might be conceived the debt of the nit. tion to the individual was so very great, that nv acts of personal kindness or bounty could repay it. To Marlborough,. and to.Nelsoln the country lie tidutitted, contracted a deht so ientnews.,•tlmi the honours sad emoluments of these greet inn:, his( been concluded the fit inlieritence of their poi- terity. finch instances were, however, very uncionii soon ; and perhaps but these two instances vieie solely on record Blithe English history. He wished he had had an earlier opportunity of, analog his sentiments to the House on the aubject, but could not, consistently with his duty as a Britinli Peer, see the wealth, honour, and resources of country lavished on those who had but a paternol claim to them ; though he admitted, that had !M., sums mot some honours been conferred on the pro!. last General himself, he should have thought ti.t a greatly, inferior to his generallYsadmitted tattle," and deserts. Lord Ifsanowny was surprised to find the Ye. ble Earl admitting the great and t.trung claims c: the late Noble Lord on the country, ye deprecat ing the measure which conferred lionmars uudind• - pendetire on his detictiultuits ; he thou.:lit iinthii 4 more ju,t, than that they should partalie of the au vantage, of his meritorious and gallant conduct. Earl Gitosvexos explained; and the kill via: then read and passed. Lurti'lloi.t.sxn lived the consideration of the motion he gave uotice of on Friday, .for Tuesday week.—Adjoarned. HOUSE 0? COMMONS. Mr I.atezt.t.iti, Merman uf the Malmesbary Eleetioe Committee repartud Ui thy House th a t the sitting 31stsbers were duly ducted, sad that the Petition was not frivolous our vexatious. sir. SHAW brousbt in a bill for paving, repairing, and fightiug 'Wain paaacip-s is the par:sit of PAWNS. kead a Lod and marred to be n Art a second time. A Copy of the Charter of Grevirescl; Hospital wn :aid span the Table ; aud, upon the snotiou of Sir CHAR !Ai Pots: it was ordered to be prisit:cl previous to his bris;- hag fir:ward a motion wpm) the subject. Mr. Pot': moved for Copies of certain Orders sod Di rection Knee by the Lords ,4 the Admiralty,• etc. retains is t►e penults( el the ROchfort Squadron with victuals. Mr. CA LC/AFT SSA. It wan His onion wish to bate every document relative to this subject laid before the • Howse, pervins to his fusion* a motion epos them . T4e ?otioa Was agreed to. Mr. II tiollitsON moved fur Copies of. several Orders of Cooed! rolativt to the iletvot;ori of cortaill Americo /kip, see the warebousiog of their movies i as aloe Copies of *Ls Orders of the Lords of the Tressery, aliosieg the inswts• title of goads is Per tugnise seasis.—Ordetird. . . - - Certain papers relative to the Dardanelles were laid Rum the Tahoe by Mr. Ca%llllll. To a maestiosi from Ur. WWI o, aa to when the mightiest' diapatchee relative to lideomark, which were or dered, 'timid be hid arm the Table, Mr. CallUthe said, tisahtbey would mom it presented hi the House. Mr. St.ms at gave matar, that mama a Right Hunourster Gestleuma, not then in his piece (dlr. Shea idea', sun, proposed the convideratioa f the l'etitiou relative io the Cold Bath Fields Prisms, he should submit a motion to the House relative to it. PETITIONS AS TO THE OILDEIR IN COUNCIL. Upon the motion of Mr. Alderman Comas, u,.1 Petition of the American Merchants of Lola twee ordered to be taken into consideration upui Thursday next. Sir CII•Itt.EI PRICE presented • Petition from certain iierrous 'tiling themselves SOciaty of Merchants, in Loudon, tnidiug in cotton, *ool, anti other emantial wants of the enemy," expreralag their gratitude to Ministers for the late Orders in Coun cil, and praying that they be carried into full effect, as being most adrantageous to their trade, and tic most probable mode of convincing the enemy of the impropriety of Isis own Decrees against this country. . _ _ Ups:ii the motion--". That thia Petition be laid upon the Table," it was objected to by Mr. T 1 VILISET, M. WIITTIIIII,ID, Mr. Simms, Mr. Bsainu, Earl TEMPLE, Sir Jona NEvrauttc,hi , .. lltusEirr, and Mr. l'ossoliae, ou accounts: the l'etitiouvrs not being properly describes!, they sinning to themselves the afpelliktion of a Society of Merchants, althoilkh not constituted intrAt by charter. It was argued, that the same objectwn must necessarily exist to this description, as o 'c , -* urged against the Petition as to the Cold Fields I"rison. presented from certain persu... siding themselves to be the Grand ,Futy. The Cris CEL Lon of the ExcamtivEat atiPPort( 4 the Petition, and argued, that the rase of these Petitioners, and those alio described theniselre , the Grand Jury, %vas perfectly different, the loft,. having assumed to themselves a legal which did not belong to them. These were a class of respevtahle merchants, end, ms sus had a right to petition individually. The L ull,. 4 theitrzelveb a Society might originate, fdir .• the House knea of them, from their ionising a rate chili. Mr. l'utisoNev observed, that upon reading Pr•titior: he found Li, less than 19 or 30 nano •i: and he v.4s not therefore hu that there was not a paragraph of good throi...,liout the wlita:e o: it, fur he did Lit behr ,, that they could with's-43nd it themselves. It .• nliucrd Lain of a preacher who get a flit . ; 1 of to write a 1 S•l:4sli fur him, which hciag i to uet it pr.nted. 1k • Hire you read ray Sertut , a ;" t:bet pt inter, " 114 , eyc1.: the %me matiner with this compositioa ; c na. w ~~ au; alt.cd Petitioners being for.igneis had adopted a.,y that were thought h: certaiu petiroco c }roper for cheat to tulopt. M ROSSI P Cltl eauti -Oct Hu big