The Statesman. — London, England, 1810-05-26 00:00:00

~ ' 'Catholic eollittflUttak :it bitty grounded. He CI , it hi' duty to feliti:thi • same vote: S'r J. ils.-ijiPrESEEY mode_a few. obseria- Stag in etoranatlOn. • Tie lieu. Mrs tAgaz Pitted his ;Mutely to express bit; op ante: ypon.tbequeition; bellbytog its his conicience ns he' did. tat tat; pervert in a rejeetteraliff arose elaistil Must' jar, itishly • lead' to the destr 4 ctioollAiko.envire. hifeer, hear!) lio was partieularl s impelleti)o rise,fat that moment, in ron:equeisceof certain oh - sere:Woos which had (+diet, from the Right.flime. nod Lernmsed Judge t9Poir).• Greta as such an opintou most bc considered, lie (Mr. L.) mita great defe-• g enre. PI: it nit duty to say, that the view that LeArned I jail e 'wilt .of the question was, in his judgment, errinwoqs, I Mach stress wail Aid by him on the instructions green by toet Univeesite hi Oefdielto oppose the Catholic Petitimk Wheat he,lseurd that well . oppmation was founded upon the tialWelll of conce,iiin, fie was naturally induced to expect that slime laing in the swipe of, argument would be Set forth by Such a loomed duly *Orions that there was, A Strong raise to stet 'oets •I'olt ItY v'mocetlillgsAletrifoetst would fiplow lathe State. If it as meant to_say., that there .ss,aq clangsr in having to -/treat WfM iir.poktanf a tithnell of the B?itis . ."Einplre Roman Catholic. tilt -istai.irrel •in the aftspretwission ; nobody ever deeded it I +het dime will• lost the question. The real point for, tetisiderttion wits that havi.7g such a great pirtion of your population CatholV, and tieing so, then-fire a source of regret, was lite am m o to the genera! security of the Empire N les lesserml by a Conti. u .nee of penal restriction: and disa- Isilitit.:; ? (h ear. hear!) or, would the policy of COaCtS liiri 4,11 egewilivion augment such 'dagger? To say, that the viiiitinlitc.. isf'stic h• re4trictio.s Lassoed the dander to the tieitesusel Cstobsisantent, tiv promoting a gradual diminution . of tt limn Catholics, was to a s sert. that which the history of Ireland fully disproved.. Attached as he was to the mails= *mor rind propagition of the Protestant doctrine. that only tot it eie slims; to him, that the continuance of these slisabilities Led to. the conversing of any portion of Ceiba-. lies, and thoirgli strictly a friend to the most liberal principle. of toteratioa, he slid not kilo w what sacrifices he would not gnA . t..• to pureliase that hizttly desirable object. But when it wig worse than idle to:expe..t such a state of things in Ire land—when it was considered what that country had already paired for its religioui faith—when it wrr , cou.idered what p a rt England observed towards that country, acting . as It . slid upon that-Very principle for acrid,. upon which Lagland expe•:!el 4he Faintly of Stuart, namely, the endeavour to. fume a neligjett, hostile to the tech.:es and wi.hes of the greet mass ofthe pis.iple-[ffear, hear!] —placing over that .veople, iseiegy which they considered heretical, and sub. lectuig thenito a variety of oppressive enactments. Why. witb 'tacit t hings undeniable, was it oat proceeding ton far to say, that a itatinii tints treated, was must perverse mil stitr necked In • setting forth their claims for relief from galling and unneces sary restrictions? Siippasing the apprelicesiims of danger `from the Catholic reliei.in in Ireland to he well futiti,:ed, was it impede:lin it: perniconts inflavnee by a d.nsial of redress . ? Was it reasonable—was it human nature to assume that when the ri..tht to enjoy and to till all the honourable situations which pins iirtisni or justified ambition prompted men to seek was allowed, that the consequence of such grant would he the .o aoerainn by those poems of that very system and connec tion, from the existence of which they derived all their au thority, inrport,iice. and reptsci ?—f /Par, hear !I—llisalii lity *ever had and never would pruduce conversion. That was the growth of a fir different course ; it required a long mid tedioti, process, to be forwarded by conciliation. esta blish-len:I for education, and the general diffusion of know ktixe. Ewoi under such a kindly sysoan, the warcli of the bantam saint was stow • mid above all subiects eron• that of teliAions attachment. Tliere wits not anialividual who hear . him more all% Wag ihAll he Wad for the ma i atenance of the Protes tont estalitishmeot in Irehuitior for the ri.pagatiunofthat pure doctrine; hut he never could be iiminced to think that by a o ise, Vilerant anti . :tineilin ting system to di ffereat re( igiouspermasions, either it t , eml.rpa p ee was endangered, or its propitganuniin prdeit ter..: -,There. was tu.e remark of the Learned Judge tFscotti •liiin ke,ltearii wit h tie little(! vee orsiu•orise and re gret.. 4 trar Ihe i mps k.d censure awn) the English Catholics for their acesieseetsv iti the Iris sfer of the Veto to the King, the Leartrel. Judge.einteidtwileg•saeli a transfer incompatible ' scull tee religioa they professed.' of sacs doctrine as rind . sirss to become current, wino was it bit to roake animal ;trill:W.ou impossible, a.ul.latitislic proscription eternal?— ' t the Iloilo: recollect whet soceihees irelatel hail made for . - It lii isii connection, under the implied conapitet thattlione ex -3 aw.iiing it Wll tae. ground of religion, were to cease. Let it asstitnaie the coosequences of persevering denial to legitimate, • elaiois upon a 'people of quick and gallaut feelings. Above all, ii,er it direct its observation Iti-lhe state of the Continent of . Euraise; now consolidated. lino a **it -military mach*, i Moving touler the cosemport,of.at single will—of the will of - an ilidivitTinid,•whoncit ions iMpossible to contemplate w 4iiiicLaJe lweet.sien of Pipe stitioustiwpiseinst iog him sa ....sat those a wful visitations which, in obedience Its the .1 tables of of Previdence, were tometitnes made the Inv mt tarofesenecting some' great . and moose s tows object. With strips, wider such p. 'Hind, it was destruction to the gamier tie Oolong the causes of its weakness and lisseeti idly ; alpha tn3nn a re 01030 causes none were pressing than the euntigeauceef disabilities against the Irish people. 1 Sir WM. SCQI'T explained., Thellonoeralslo General MATTIIENTstated, that Tie 'Stew% and conclusive conviction he co. 1 tertaittlit - upon this'great question, conk( nut stif." .„. ter lontlert forego the opportunity of declaring to „.. .- .. tbst liouse and to Ake Lmotee . his reasons tor tl;e vote he should that .toglkt goad in favour of• the emancipation of foir . ..nVlltosa l of his countrymen. • ~ ~..$ , it was'lrst. 'his ihteuston te sa at any great length into the Sohject v ,diseuiseil is it had been so sthly in the two. speecitei of the Right Honourable Mover and •thelitononrable gecottiler (Mr. Grit - tali and Sir J. Ca Ilippesley). But . tio)ugh in the assertion of the Claims of the Itish Catholics,' - - ' upon every ground of justice and of pulic,r, la concurred with both, .he could not agree in colt.; piing such an intrinsic . right with any condition, such as the Veto, which that Body felt to be in. compatible with the faith Which they professed, and the discipline to which. for 'so many ;emu. ' ties they had steadfastly adhered. lie absolutely would deny the truth, of these grounds, -upon which a surrender of their religious disciolli was . , asked. The Irish Catholics sever had any other ap, 1 tercourse with foreign powers orpotentates, but the' mere acknowledgment of the'spi ritual power of the Pope, and, therefore, to dotty, at tbacday, their ti tle to the rights of freemen, and to the blessings of constitutional liberty, through the apprehension of their religion leading them to an intercourse with hostile countries, was nothing less than recalling into baneful operation . all 'those calumnies and misrepresentations, which were so profusely cir. ciliated by those numerous libellers of Ireland, froni Sir John Davis, Cot, &c. down 'to those of a more recent period. Ha/leg thonght it' necessary to state thus much as to the reconnnen- datiiin of the veto, he would next advert to the' great• question itself. The great and prevalent delusitot was, that by its opposers it was cousi. tiered only as a Catholic cause. It was not so limited ; the dangers of the empire made it a Pro:' testant one; neither was it a danger unfelt by the; Irish Protestants, inasmuch as he was firmly' persuaded than site-tenths of that body in Ireland were impressed with the paramount necessity of Catholic concession. [Mar ! hear !]. Such a persuasion did not Pest upoo surmise. Tito great Protestant Landholders had declared their opi— !lions in its favour. But Vital as its adop tion was to the safety of Ireland, it Was not less so to the sorority of England—slot Only of Eng. land he would say, bat of Europe. For upon the strength and security of the British Empire, de. pended the hope of recovery to the subjugated nations of the Continent. It therefore hehoted that House, if the claims of Ireland were of no value in its consideration, to reflect that, by their disregard, it risqued the safety of Great liritaiu. Lf the system of cruelty, tyranny, and oppression either I 71, 411) ORprcAlliOnp z ...40414 re 1 4 .14 111 that assertion @ten isk MitOes bistorlarialiini contleriiiness t ald tothencelet tfy owls *nbserifi.l ton in more recent periods: . Tfie . Hott: Ciniferidi here read, some eztraets 'fropi" Morilifen, 'Of 'a : c c r or t r 4 es ty. C eciltiripo:ekn'beot tee . mita" caf 'b 'd VerulinPand'Se e Queen vieebbtii, - wfi e rein the forMbr itre4V7 lamentable ite scripticin of the then state tsit Ireland, .under the administration . of the LetiflliPity' Mountjoy, where the unhappy natirea'‘rein forced 10 subsist• upon the itoktiettlei collected lit this Bettis -.;- where ' old woolen Wer e`, actually forced • by. the dreadful • •• • • • necessities of unger to be caninbals, 'mid were then hanged for the offence. When these 'facts were communicated to the Queen, her answer ,to her Minister was; " It is you have committed these things . ; but I fear that a similar charge at. tactics to me, as Varro stated to, Tiberius, that I committed the flock not to shePherds but to wolies." Such was the desetiption'given by 13ri...1 tish authoritiei of the system under Which Ireland growled in their time. Yet barbarous and atria. cious as was that system, he had, in his own times, in this enlightened sera of the 'world, in this humane reign, seen are barbarous, as atro. -cious; as oppressive, and shiest as incredi ble acts, • practised by and under the ccienl. Lance of the Irish Government. There were before hint Honeurable Members who could not deny his assertions. He did not utter them lightly, nor upon the authority of any second person. lie yoke from the testimony of his pwn senses. In defiance of every principle of justice, in violation of every enactment framed for the protection of the subjecti" liberty, he had himself seen honest, industrious, and innocent men, drag. ged froni their homes to the most dismal dungeons ; ' hurried from shelled without trial, nay, without charge, either to a triangle or it gallows, to be. tortured or half-hanged, as adjudged, punishmeut for any etfence, real or suppysed. No such thing, , but to extr,tet, by most' exaggerated torture,_ either a confessiou of his guilt, •o'r an itidiserinti nate impeactimeet of thwie Whom the Government were pleased to consider obnezious. But even if the sufferers were guilty, such a system •was in direct violation of - the positive 'clause in the Great Chartbr, which provided 'that iti punish. (tient, no cruel or unusual tortures sheuld.l lieinfliceed. Ler lam not be told that lie was driwing an exaggerated statetnent, incredible as it ' a Plies r ell 7 , the atrocities which it delieeateil,le confer state place add lime. They were'daily reveattidivete tastie-yerd of Dublin, in tlieltriyal *tlitnee, itibt?jorSantly_ l4 i Preset, an& in lieresford''S'ltielftig House. They took place , during the Administration of .that Worst Lord LiOtteitant (among thi many With' *hicit his miltaipiteountry were afflicted), that ever was Sent to 'lreland—namely, Lord Camden, -now 'a' 'Confidential Midister and secret adviser of the Crown. tint it were somewhat tolerable even if such barbarities • were confined 'to the unhappy • pctsdns first niade the victims of such cruelty. Li that period of unbounded outrage upon every principle of justice, humanity, end of law, even the cries of rho widowed mother and orphan child became incentives to the lust of a bro. tai . soldiery ; and many were the. instances *here the wive. and daughters, in the very view of their agonized parents, were shamefully and barbarously violated by, he was sorry to say it, English Fencibles and German Mercena " ries. But it would be said, that such deplorahte consequences followed from the Conduct and the violence of the Irish rople, and.'were not to be attributed to the misrule of the Government.— . What was the answer ? It' was this: that e ith change ofaystem, teen for a short season, peace ..returned., Lord Cornwallis sueeeeded -Lord Cam. den ; coiEsliatlon 'took the 1/13C13 or coercion, and,. /rebut& became Icemen' and composedo,-- [Heat! hear t] Was • tai it House, then, • pre. pared to say, in life preaeift elate of the world,', ' ' that it waaitetermined.to , persevere jet a system of policy towards Ireland; from which 'such calemi: Iles bevaalecady.fierwn ? Was it ready to abide by,. the course stemmed by a set of men who,•after *hat had already taker' , place, in tonsequence of theta; misconduct,. usgh4 would not be trusted by an :booed; House- • of (*unbolts: It weal the height of 'madness ;longer to :tolerate Ad doctrine' of proscription against a people whom you have thus treated-,-e people who, at this mo: ment, compose .one half of your army and navy —a peOide *be, wheu calteerto fight the 'batiks of the Empire, even evilest: as • enemy psis. fessing their own religion, have ever gallantly performed their duty. [l4isr! hear !] What did he, as the Representative - of. Ireland,• ask from that House ? What that Ilmiee .was bound by every principle of justice, . by the faith .rof solemn Treaty bound, to grant to Ireland-- bound to' it by the Treaty 4 4 , Lime r ick, which, on the part of Ireland, 'was settled aodeo i ncluded by the Irish Chieftnins at the head of an Irish Ca tholic army, 'with sec Etignili Generals arid the Lore,. Justices on the part of Englawdk a compact signed, seated, and ratified by King William [Hear! hear !] in which it was provided (fur . ; f rum' the usual ignorance of afar Haase [A laugAl upon Irish 'subjects, it was necessary to state the . facts), that tbeCatholies of Ireland should be rein. stated in•ill the advantages which' the loyalty. of their ancestors entitled and obtained for them in the reign of Charles the tit,. and which were now claimed by their descendants Upon the same wide. viable grounds. Let those whir still were deter. mined to fel t ing the petitions of. that people, be. fore they announce this important decision, pause epee' the capacities of that country, should your perverseness 'drive her to a ~indication of her wrongs. What did the evident@ produced before •the Select Committee,' in the year 1799, commu nicate ? Was it not undeniable, that. Ireland ,Isad organised fur resistance 300,000 men. — Alai confident in her own Means to - effect Inir OW object, she refined to derive an army 'of forty thousand men .offered by the Government of France. If - tan refusal to _ Independent _ under _ ,of :Foots ?In alternative, upon what tenure wonid the greatness and'prosperity of BrPlait depest&' WttiP figneh ships in the ports of Hoßaildi g iia, nad Ireland, manned with Dutch aad,Frsmcls bus. thcrs of those very men r -re ceedribtikod , p) ye prerionsty grata; ;hey regain *ion, • thentanlethi . thddlii be so slow iir cOnceling ; nio •tuill concession Would be the best bond of mittoAl - conciliation, 'and he- cordially agreed with his Bight Honourable Friend and colleague, to thinking it wonid bu a' happy day, fur Ireland. , WY .k. .._ o 4 h avewo o __ _ , the support of your naval glory TO laughfress A; • when so great and desirable - - object Calf • • be an Ministerial benches.] The Honourable Gentle. fully accomplished. This great end can only he men may laugh, but 'there was• little subject for brought about by mutual concessidn; and if any inch a feeling, when they recollected that %stinted: of us believe, without such security, the Consti. ing army, with mealtime conveyance in the porb of tution would be in danger, can any liberal Catho. Vigo, Ferrol and Coruna*, was within da hours sail lie blame as for requiring that security in thelrst of an Island where the whole population were dis. instance ? Let the Catholics give the security 'satisfied and proscribed. Let the House not de. their warmest advocates tegnire of them, and ceive itself. Let ittonsider, whether Ireland had esery liberal Irish Protestant will be rejoiced at not every thing to gain, and nothing to lose by being enabled 'to admit his countrymen of every the change. To be sure it would get rid of 'some religions persuasion to the full benefits of the Con. . things. It would get-rid' of aoode of penal and stitution ; all be desires of the Catholic , is, that he galling restrictions—of an oppressive tythe system will enable him to,give him what he looks for ; this • 1. --of 16 millions of debt—of your improvident is what he requires, and all he requires. He knows exactions and grinding taxes—of her proportion the value, the necessity of conciliation; but tb to your sinecures and pensions. She could' be sincere, Itmustbe reciprocal. He should for the bring into the field an army equal to cope with' above reasons vote against going into a Committee, any this country could furnish—to the full which could not be attended with any good, but ;es well cootmand4 and as well disciplined. let that spirit of conciliation, which• is evidently Before the communication would reach your gaining ground in the. House and the country, metropolis, by a general rising of her people work a little .more, and such a confidence had he she would be in possession of every arsenal snide- in the good sense of that portion of his country. pat, and resources she could find In . .one million men, that he bed no doubt of their seeing their and and a half of absent property: Ho was not own interest in due time, and coming forward to , to be told, that what he had then stated, was, the give us that security which alone could...justify evidenee only 'of notorious traitors.. Whatever this. House in complying with the prayer of their i their conduct had been, there was no man ever , Petition, and which their oldest friends think this ,. . doubted their knowledge of din country ; and it should not geese: . . was to bo recollected that such authority had in Lord - DIJILSLEit was instructed on the parte • that House been quoted by the King's Ministers, a large portion of the Protestant Freeholders of in oppOsition to Catholic Claims. Every Com. the extensive and populous county which. re. , sanding motive of. human. - reason and policy presented,. to .state, that they wished their . tatho." called upon that House to reaerse its system to. lie fellow.subjects . to share' in common with them wards Ireland. In brig - ging them in his very hem.. the same rights, 'privileges, and immunities. ble manner before it, lie - felt he had done his . Mr. Secretary RYDER contended strongly , duty as a devoted serartititto that country to whiCh against the right now claimed by the Roman. Cna he had the honour te belong, and as one Most tholics, denying, as they' did, the right of veto, anxious to connect the two mutual bonds of which they had formerly in profession wily, bet equal rights and equal laws.—Conspious of his never in reality, authorised their supporters. in own c - omperative inferiority, he was, on all former this and the other House of Parliament to concede .- occasions, willing to yield the discussion of Ire. for them.. . land's interests to the' . Right' Thintiorablis Mum. , Mr.PONSDNBY asserted,' that hers for Dublin and Taviseock (Me Grattria•and the Irish Catholics in ParliametK Mr..Ponsonby. Bet .tboogir for these'two great from their Delegate in this country, diameters he entertaioett the ,highest respect s he , accession to the veto. This he Oar was bound in troth as juitice to say, that his ring to a card upon which Dr. Miir a country had, In' e'greet degree; 'changed its opl. .of Lord Fingal, marked the terms /2 -Mon. There was'passed In Shit Muse, some Set. .tind•stili more from a letter writte, or sions ago, a certain Actlthe 4ustorrection Act l i the, day after that interview, in the .which was a direct violation of the liberties of the Doctor stated his desire tocomrom dine Irish people, and- which hal received some support tiuctly the propplition of the CI I ateis.. ou the assumption that there Was a French' party In order that there should bents , 'ding, iii Ireland. Ile would boldly avow that neither.at this „ proposition was, that the k relates that time, nor now; did or . does there exist a were willing to give a direct nege wen Io French' pony there. ' His Right Honourable ,his Majesty's Government—upon th Jititalent Fricnd (Mr. Grattan) he was persuaded, was of the prelacy in future. The width. gof thb, now equally of that opinion ; bather° did exist in however , he now contended, was et , end oat tO Ireland an iaterist, every (lmy and hour gaining them as a taunt. Would the RI: lonourable additional strength, and that was an Irish in. Gentle Man opposite CMG Ryder; send to sax, tercet. :such an interest as was strengthening it. that if this were conceded, he wk support the self in England. against every species of illegal Catholic Ca*? He begged to ask, chat pretence and unconstitutional power. The people of Ire- the Right Hon. Gent. had to demand concessions 'land only seek a participation of civil freedom. from the Catholics and yet to give them none ? !They desire the British Constitution ; denied its Was every concession to be demanded' from Bleck t .prutection they will not implicitly bow to the op. and none to be made in return ? Veto or no Vet( pressive mandates of King, Lords, or Coin. wail not the question, but whether, in tech .cii mons. With respect to the Veto ; he would not cumstances, the coincessionashould not be mutual , pretend to say, although he gave it muph titbit. Were the Irish to understand thit the terms tion, that he so understood it' in all its' conic. reconciliation held out to their were of no mea goences as - positively to decide "opt b • it.— ing? That 'they were words proceeding from I But whatever was his own opinioui he would lips, but net meant to convey the m o a nin g o f ' never set it up in opposition to the convic. , heart? He declared his conviction, that there , !ion of four millions of people upon a point no danger to be apprehended from Ireland, bet tl connected with their' own faith and religious if properly treated, she would prove our Wet discipline. He must hoWever state, that ihesCa. and security, All that was now fished wet, tholios of the great county of Tipperary, which the House. should go ,into a Committee. '1 ,h'e had the honour to represent, had io certain Re. were no great concessions asked ; Jet only oplutions passed in Marcklast, agreed to transfer CoMmitteu be gone into. Begin oiiii - by I the appointment of Bishops from the Pope to a 'to the Petitioner s small conceisioni,', 'With domestic Nomination. For himself, he would say, concessions they would at first 'be ' sigafind that * whatever decision 'Bee tathilics- of- Ireland when Geetlemen, saw that they asked catnetoi itt that be would , acquiesce,.' determined than 'seas centipede, then let them proceed to . tp give their areat.canse his; unqualified support, ,give them the felextent of their demand. Whit Veto or no Veto. Ilk mbject was to place Ire. was the state iurope at this moment? Was . land under the same laws, nod with the same rights it not reduced under the dominion of one man, thit Great Britain enjoyed . ,4le, felt the jetties the greatest, probably, whom the world had ever and the,merit of the Course he eite omeninded, eon. produced ;—ono who, was sent, as it were; by viliced that union ••an& ColitiliatiOSArliold make Providence, to accomplish things which could Brit parte( the euipireeetoalyintincille but is. hardly have been supposed practicable. Ho vulnejable. • ' - , . , : was a man - not only of great talent!, brit Lord Viscount JOCELYN' was aware of the probably oe greater talents' than any other , • • difficulty of . forming a correct °Anion on thesult.: man of recent times, or of antiquity, who had jest ;• but, at the same •time, he was obliged to ever existed. His talents were equally gigantic diger with thia•Right.lloisoittiable Meier: Ile with his ambition ; and the people whom ho thought that cOviciliation_iss negessarmbut there -commanded were equally endowed with talent, was no bar provided in the . preematentsfp.of things .-and 'also with ambition,. as himself. It was . to secure the Catholics 'pins; Oti...poswer of in the power - of Britain not only to do away 'Was amt thereforti . cOncessiest ,ie their part any ,antipathy which • their conduct towards the 'Was desirable. Mikis the King lied the Veto; or Irish might have created, but even to convert:it . power of appointing mitts* Bishops .as to him into the most inviolable friend. The Irish webs might scent ,proper, there: was, hi his opinion , an willing to prove themselves the rallying point of )#n oirnuuntable °Wick to comply with their de. the Empire against. the French Governor , who • • Maids. Supposing lie measure was adopted, still i wished to make himself thp uncootroule d Sov erei gn t ile thought no, material benefit would. be produced ;ot the world. . Wes it then a suffieieni answer to t , 'bi, it.' Tho disease* strOtild remain .--4 disease which I say, when thus called on, that because you (the-, • . could not be eradicated , unfit the men of property i Catholics) would not advance some steps , wh i c h . • ',• TO Ireland felt the natecee sefues, and set an exam. lin fact, • were of no import, they (the _British • Ole to the No Qt. 04 country by liviag on ; . .Parliament) would do nothing l' In his opiniotrie . : 'their eitates '' Weald to God, he obierved, that I became the bounden duty of the people pod Parlitio , . some means could be devised to,compel.nbsentees meat of this country to say to their Irish; bras . . _'•; .. to return ; *to (Aid that ruinous and-tilt:fictive thren, tee are ready to make the first advance.-Thoe- emigration whiCk vs' the sole cause of all the nature of the people of was to feel instil in .. • , real grievaneen of iviiitili Ireland corn plained. the most acutedegree; and the only war to merit . . Mr. SHAW .(Vrifilio) cou ld not content him. them was by alfection,foree new Woold town . • ... • , . .... .• 'Self with a silent'vote, as he was cotrenittly desirous them ; England had tried that mode for eentitrieer . . [of explaining the motives which influenced it on and was Ireland more secitre.te her_now.4itetwit 1 the p rese nt occasion. ' And first, he could assure any former period? The Union, above ilt floes : ' --, . -- was calculated to awaken this .fentling.-1 . the lipase and the Country that thole Motives thief%• • .... were not to be traceitarry principle of &nixie. If the people of Ireland felt, even after a WWWISGTS . . . itty against so great 444 respectable a body as the of this kind; that they were to ,be kept In 0, ChM ' ' . , -, Roman Catholics .o( . lreland f towards them he of subserviency and degradation, must, they: neit: . . ne,er f e lt, no t does he now feel, • any sentiment of naturally took for redrec? Would , they not Ora': • . all the advantages be driven to the. most desperate measure* 1111 - lOW' •' : . 4 intolerance; he wishes , them ... of the Constitution,: consistent with the safety complish it ? ''hey would satiii be red 'to' of the Coustitatiop itselt, They profess to toy thick the Woe Oa eery Wont ofiro that lie 4 . . . •-. , .. . _ _ . . ..• , . . • . t • •1 . . . - ~ ' •e _ • -. . .. • . . • , . • " . , • ..• • • . . VIM A j • • . . . . . - _ Jo " . • • - . - . . .r, . ... _____ . ... _ _.......................... . ____. , —the nn a a m pg 14. .7 , 11; ;aria , ,-, • Dr ;ai' - et -- ;etfito ikolad - 11 3. T. .1, ,.. " .- f` 111 , - .IfITY - coli . irdilliidil ;ho lielievoilik • Otts - ifits, i . • • hundred pasta of thtn %, , nalbn, was not' at lamentable choice, .' l ' l' 41) • ' eatlloNa , fel. 'end null regfetS they should hesitate 1., give length to terroinee, viruirrecoined of the liberties ; lied under.the dosaiotoodgjhur a moissear stake 'that security, which their ablest advuehrns en even 'VIVI' 1001 1 4 1 wA11141:Itot ltfili survive, Continent, or of startelawy, separate independent .hath- Reuses think previously Receisar'y ; her... , 1 s Cierier an ORprelsioir p , WWI% repilat fortified island under the protection ,or .fisosige ? In either greb;•that while: they require eencessi:3n, twy , • *it ,fli . Wends, of ent 'bad authority • 'try . to offer their • e skewed by refcr. ifilner, in preamicci erms of the *do, . ‘ 1 ten by the DactOr rt . :which letter the annicatetiore dia. • Catholic Prelates. • • • misitnderstAnding l . • . Catholic prelates legatilie power to nt the appointment rithhalding of this, as only held out to Ri4ht Honourable , er) pretend to sat, would' support tbo ink, what pretence !emend concegsions give them none landed . from then‘, ? Veto or no Veto Thor, in fruch .cif. • luld not be mutual? I that the terms of were of no mean. weeding from the • the moaning of tile . ion, that there was in Ireland, but timkt o • prove our strength ,w asked wal, Committee. 'theft) Sked:i ,lit . only. the ;in ouj y by, giii4 Witb small t be 'l4lll6id t aid icy asked no mote • . .