The Statesman. — London, England, 1810-02-23 00:00:00

I .1 • . . • 4 s i 1 .1 it • • 7 - • t sA t ti, - 4 4 •• - • cutlery Canning, dated the 22d of November, 1808, desiring to have information from the Bri. tits !Winkler in Portugal, respecting the state of the Portuguese force. Their Lordships would uaturally suppose, that, at such a moment, this was a matter of urgency, and that the inforina tion %mild be transmitted with all possible dis patch. flow would they be surprised to learn, that on the 28th of Feb. 1809, the date of the next alit. patc:i, Mr. Secretary Canning states, he has no in: formation respecting the state or condition of the Portogoese force. But how much more would theybo surprisedto learn, that the date of the nest dispatch upon this important and urgent subject,. was the . • 16th, of D.:cembvr ; still more, that the Noble Itlarqiiis, upon succeeding to the foreign depart. writ, was, on the sth of February last, forced to apply for information upon this very subject. It nas Viirnly impossible for their Lordships to . consent to again placing the blood and treasure . of the country at the disposal of Ministers, who bad shewn such glaring instances of misconduct ; of Ministers, who, if they consulted Military Officer! 'about an Etpedltion, and the opinions of those Officers were decidedly, that it was im politic and unwise to undertake it; or that it , was impossible to execute it, would 'no longer listen to there, 'toe again consult them; who, if they censultcil Naval °Meets about an'enterpt ize, • and those Naval Officers 'assured shim it was ins. practicable, would only tell them in return, 4 :Gti and te'sr, and see what you eon do." The Noble Maj guns hail truly spoken of the blood and treasure of the country, which had been sacrificed in this hopeless cause in the Penin4ula ; and now they were called upon for further sacri6cev, and still without the least hope of success. The Noble f4:cretary of State had also attributed all. the, evils that had occuKed to the it retched Government of • • that conntry. And what had been the conduct of Itinisters ? The very Government in 'Portugal, that was equally hostile to this country, and op pressive to the people whom it ruled, was to be supported by us ; and whilst a part of our army was marched into Spain, another part was left to compel the people to submit to this very Govern. ment which they detested, and under whose (Inspirits no exertion on the part of the nation, no patriotic movement, 'could by any possibility ... be expecte.d, adequate to the crisis in which they were placed. The Noble Marquis had said, that those who opposed the operation contemplated in the Mes sage, must be; prepared to abandon the Pcnin. sula to the enemy: He (1 4 Ord Grenville) did not matt to go the length of asserting, that such ought to be the conduct of orernta n t ; Such a declaration would be - 'attire, and was not called prcmi for. He would readily allow, that Jerks • the population of the Peninsula might dreadfully . harass the enemy, and might, in a course of years, ultimately expel their base and crud invader. Hut what could he greater folly than relying upon their levies as a regular army, and stationing theta In situations where they must he placed ire lisle with ties British trodps, and opposed to a Vrench army ? • It was this absurd reliance upon an imaginary *ray that formed no small part of the miscon duct Of Ministers. Ministers bad thus sacrificed 11,000 mess, and now the House was to he calk! npon to sanction them in saerifieina 12,000 more. Nothing could more deeply show the miscondl;ct of Ministers in wasting the resources of the cows. try than the fact, which was beyond dispute, that in March last 16,000 effective mess could not be faund for ahe purposes of the exnedition then in contemplation, and this after breaking up the mi. • litia and raising the peasantry of the country to 4. 111 up the ranks of the troops of the line. .And yet, notwithstanding this, notwithstanding the • sacrifice of thu army of Sir John Moore, of Lord Wellington's army, • and of Lord Chat ' ' Men's army, they were now to be called upon fur the sacrifice of another army, with the same contempt of all experience, with the same waste ful disregard of the resources of the country, and with dm same hopelessness of success that hail characterized all the expeditions and enterprizes of his Majesty's Ministers. They were surely then at least called iron lo inquire, before they sanc tioned this stew enterprize; if they could at all con. sent to place *gaits in the hands of Ministers the disposal of any part of those resources which they kad so uselessly sacrificed. His Lordship con eluded by moving an Amendment, to leave out all the words of the Address, after the word e ' that," and to insert words intimating, after thanking his Majesty fur the communication, that the House ould proceed without delay to examine the do. cements before them, with a view to the object mentioned in his Majesty's Message. The Earl of LIVERPOOL thought, that with the opinions expressed by the Noble Lord, the snore simple and direct course would kayo been Cut have moved at once fur an address to bis Majes ty, praying that he would dismiss his Ministers. The Noble Lord, it is true, -had not actually de clared that the Peninsula ought to be abandoned to the enemy ; but the sentiments he had uttered tended directty to - M it - - point ; • stud what - 'else could be the meaning of that appeal, which he beside to those who were bearing the burdens necessarily imposed for the wants of the country, and to the relatives of those who hall been killed in the actions which had taken ;dace. The Noble Lord contended, that the Tagus was the most eligible place that could be selected for the first landing of our force, with a view to effect the end desired, and to promote the interest of our tallies. The enemy was by our force thriven from Portugal le three weeks, and a country set free, from which wo had reason to calculate upon re. ce:iviog material aid fur the common object. If disappointed in these calculations, that disappoint. newt was not the fault of the British Gsverotnent, or the aritish army. But the fact was, that we had . trot soy material or lasting disappointment to de. plots ps Portugal ; for the spirit of the people of that cinnstry was proceeding rapidiy in the display of its puwerand zeal. A strong force, not less than 16,000 men, wascollecting, and dsiciplining under the direction of General Beresford ; and as to • services derived from Villiors, he was enabled to stale, that that Gentleman was found to be u gtrensely faithful, zealous, and active in the sm. aieu of 14a coan:ry. "knew poOilig person. • he li ,1* 114 4 - 1 !)fit•, ! - ! :44L THE .s.ri ITitiM AN. , . • :- ally of that Gentleman, certainly not so mach as the Noble Baron who bad alluded to him ;' but he could bear the most satisfactory tes timony to the perPtirmance of his duty. With 'seised to- the question immediately under the consideration of the House, the Noble Lord' thought there iris no other•alternative than' to abandon Portugal altogether, - or to agree to the Address, and thus enatile his Majesty to main. ' lain a -force for itte defence. That such a force would tend to liherate the Peninsula, he was .not prepared to say [a cry of heir, hear!] ; but although it could not accomplish that desirable object-=would Noble Lords, would those parti cularly who, not long since, professed to sympa- Ithize in the feelings and wishes of the people of ' Portugal, recommend that they should , be'desert -0(1 by, this country, upon whose gratitude they had such strong claims, while even a chance re , rnsined of rendering them any service—while it was even possible to afford them protraction ? As to the assertion that nothing had resulted to this country from its interposition in the affairs of 1 the Reniniigla, but disaster and expense, he would ask, whether we had 011%14 nothing in point of J character ? Was it nothing to refute the calumrOes i propagated throughout Ettrope and the world, by the insidious industry of the common enemy, by the irrefragable tesstimonics of valour, fidelity, and 1 zeal for the cause of our allies 9 which marked our COlitinet from the moment that interposition took place? .. The Earl of MOIR.A said, that if the question. between the adoption of the Address and tbo Amendment, were such as the Noble Secretary of State had assumed--if no other alternative was left than the abandonment of Portugal, or the rejection of the Amendment, be had no hesitatitM ' in stating, that be would be among the first to re ' ject it. But the nature of tho Amendment wit% quite misunderstood by the Noble Secretary. It Appeared to him to call merely for inquiry, and the arrangement of a different system of policy for the conduct of the war. If that system had correspond ed with his views, heshould have continued to main. Fain the sentiments which he had on a former-occa sion expressed upon the subject of Spain. Every moments rellectiun, itnleed, satisfied him of the jus tice of these sentiments.—But yet the Noble Lord wasmot entitled to call on him for support, because the conduct of his Government did not correspond with those sentiments. The propriety of interfer ing in the concerns of Spain, and the manner of di recting that itteerfrirence, were quite distinct ques .tions ; and sorry lie was to find, that much as he ap t proved of the former ' he sew nothing but what he must censure in the latter. Instead of encouraging and promoting the cause o f Spain, that ceuse seem ed, nutter the direction of Ministers, beta secondary abject, Instead of taking such a position in Spain as might afford, not only to the people of that, 1 country, but grey of the subjects of the enemrisite irate(' in the same cause, a strong rallying point, our army was sent to aa extreme point, where,' in fact, it had scarcely to calculate upon meeting any formidable elerny. WAS this the - cause of wisdom and valour ? ‘Vhat, he would put it tUtheir Lord. ships, should we say of a Russian Getterel,• who, being ordered to invade England, made a lauding, iind attempted even to establish hinaselo in Cheshire, instead of approaching the itintre of thia country,. instead of venturing to the ticistity of the capital ? What would the Russian Calaniet be likely tea think, of such an oteer ,? ' • Yet the course which, under an enlightened Cabinet; ens Commander of our army took in the Peninsula, WAR precisely. Ow similar nature. He entered Portugal when he ought to have fended its Spain. But when Bona. parte had proceeded to attack Austria, there were two lines of poticy.marked out for our Ministers, neither of which, • though obvious, did they think proper to follow. They aught to have promptly aided Austria, or availed themselves of the Aus trian war to expel the French force from 'Spain. But they attempted nothing that wisdom could sanction; or the country approve. Every thing indeed which they did attempt was marked by int prudence and mismanagement; their whole career betrayed, as the universal opinion of the public pronounced, a total want of judgment, foresight, and *lour; and, as the climax of error, they now seemed resolved to defend Portugal, accord. ing to a plan of defence, too, wllich was perfectly impracticable. For it was utterly ridiculous to suppose, that the ideas of the Couot lit Lippe, as to. the practicability of defending Portugal from invasion, could now be relied upon. In fact, nothing cou;tl be gained • from the 'attempt, and the danger was certain. We should bastion'. ed to retain Portugal,under onr preseot system, just so long as Bonaparte, thought proper. Yet the patriots of that system, the present Mioialers, still called fqr confidence ; and amidst 11;1 the salami. ties accumulated uuder their auipicesi they .had still the 'hardihood to speak of gaining fur the country.. " But I would ark," said the Noble Lord, " What have they gained ?," • The Noble Secretary of Stale boasta-tivat: apor-eur try has obtained a higher character than at ever possessed before in Europe, which, by the way, I deny. But I would ask hint has he gained his object ? Hes he reduced the power power of the enemy ? If I were to ask • a chess-player whether ho had won his game, and he were to answer me that he had gut a rook, or that he had got a bishop, wlAt thank! I think of ids answer ? Pre cisely as I do of that of Ministers to this House, who, when Asked whether, they have won their game with' the enemy, reply, that they have gainecl honour, laurels, and fame; that still they are beaten—they have lost their game—for the last two years they have gained. nothing. Their 4W nistration has, in fact, been merked by the de, faioation of evert . ? fOreign hope, and the reductiou 'ircry domestic reassaseo w -they who vaunted of e aaohntion to protect and likerate the Conti. ncnt, Awe* only succeeded in bringing deoger close to our own Ono-es—and why ?, Because they sacrificed their: i+l4end the ieteresta of their county4o their pefselitl ambition, and personal cupidity. Whily thaix &veered the country with their taa...gatherors and siffersisors, who ,were al most as great nuisances as the plagues of k i eypt, they aggravated the. insults and injuries they m- Hicled upon th% people, by o)ost wantooly.swimi. 1 e. ;011viegrn7einnit"conaldoolts: that I ra ,' .461* 'could not be to o dealer!. .romislence! I was, -..... i5ti . tiering the produce of their exactions. Yet, thmo, to be iierhiall Istlgocit were the Ministers who called fee —lie was certain that he was, ;peeking the language of ninety-nine out of a huodred of the turity and strength, ria whole population of thecountry, when he aliert. ice of the country , a H ed, that such Ministers deserted feprubatietkandl rested upon. this p • E . 14 puniihment. , - •i! • I 'hat the Spanish rl4 - Lord SIDMOUTH disapproved of the conduct ' over the attacks of lis, of Ministerk but yet he could not agree' to . the- Amendment, because it appeared to him to in.. vole° a - prOposition for .the abaudunment of Pur tugal, to which the utmost.possible support was due frinn this country. Recollecting the °blip. tions due to Portugal, and the policy pursued to wards that country in 1762, ho could t.iscver con sent to abandon it while any struggle could be made for its protection. He would therefore con. tide on such an occasion as the preseut, not to Government, for he did not think it entitled to confidence, but iu any eersons invested with t h e 'functions , of Government, trusting to their re. sponsibility for the conduct,thev pursued. ' The' Marquis . of LA NiDOVir.NE expressed his surprize at the allusion of his Noble Friend to the ' policy pursued in 1762, when the circumstances of the country and of Europe were so materially different, if nest directly the reverse of what they • wore at the'present day...when we had a vigorous Administration at home, and an important hide ' ence abroad. It was, he felt, somewhat singular, ,that upon the very same premises- that were stated by his Noble Friend, he should come to (elite an . opposite co:tclusion ; for he could not reconcile it to his mind to reposeany confidence in Ministers, who, according to his Noble Friend's confession, I were not entitled to it—[lleur, hear .9—he could i not trust to the judgment or respousibiliry of men -whose misconduct had involved the country in a series, of disasters and disgrace—lint it seemed that they had some Intention of taking a new : course—so it appeared were the Portuguese, for they were beginning •tts form an army. He had heard of an olitPhilesopher, who observed, that it was the characteristic of a foolish man to be always beginning, and he vould not help applying the observation to the beginnings of Ministers and the But, Portuguese army ; fur himself he had toi liesita. id i lt i rli w :p.-. don in stating, that rortugal ought not to be re- searetiraneh I tained ; that nothing but danger and loss was to Moroni For., ibe calculated upon. front We attempt . ; and that B t e i r i k o ev .'arlisip 11. ! ,I taioke .i.:iiwttnr auy delay to abande a it .could only reat.upon the i:irksome Ilianaferd. • same irresolute, culpable polity, WhiCh'prothiced I. ravhroke 8/...‘coe thawed I.:4lii p iiirent ' et. Aatp. 0 _ • Mendip • so much mischief in the retention of Walcheren i , Cork and Orsent Potois ' after the imp.ossilsility of holding it without more _Glees • *Sowers . __ • sacrifices than it was worth, becameluiteglaririg. • Lord HAItROWIiY Acpreciited the idea l of tying this hands of Minister's, while they were . permitted to held the functions of •Goverftit. If they were unworthy to he trusted, let all ink dress - for (heir dismissal from office he at once brought forward; bust while they retained office, let it not be attempted to injure. the country and them by depriving them of the Means of diseliarg.- their public duty. If it were determined 'to abandon the Peninsula, it ought to be done at made, and the Portuguese left to , make the best 1 terms they - could with the enemy.' "Bet. if the i Portuguese were to be protected, this cute pro. i posed by the- Address was • intlispenvible •to that protection: No doubt should be aliowetrto exist I upon such•a subject. The Noble Lord-then'pre i ceeded to animadvert upon the adMinistration of : thou who were so antliows to displeee the present • Ministers, and couelutied with oVseevingi tlbot•if • these persons were to succeed in their object, the -country could not, from their teenier conduct, • he very sanguluein its hope of their capacity to manage expeditions, or to peoluale-asmarfoeCiettlii tluence. Lord ERSKINE begged their Lordships Ito reflect, that nut merely the conduct of Ministers. but thee of their Lordships themselves, winintlW' trial on this occasion ;-and- . the probable Vet**. lir that trial, 'before an enlightened -country, seaslek.i titled to .the most serious consideration. Minis. ters, it appeared, pursued the old course' upon Ithis occasion . Instead pf vindicating , th emse l ves , they endeavoured to criminate their predecessors. But if their predecessors were reailyisletiminal, why do not those Ministers ; who „irxst in posses. siun of every information and doctsetent - roferrinie to their official conduct, do their duty, and mile. that miniiiiality the subject of prosecution? 'Phis; however (said the Noble Lard), was not their ()b . - ? jest: They did nor waist to vindicate the cause of the public, but to get into our places; and how have they acted in those places? Their con duct,. particularly in retaining Walcheren, after the main' object of the Expedition' was found unattainable, wait (nest criminal. It was, I will soy, as a lawyer, a murderous act. And yet they challenge, it seems, a motion for their dismis sal. Such a motion is, lisrlecit' s stispelided over tiitir heads, and God knOwe it is of little cruse. queuce whether they art on or off [a lough]. But as to the retention of Portugal, it is slated, that a nlatve army is collecting..inAlsat—ooosselyewird - vmr ' niiiley in'to be sent there for its support. What fatality t There really seems to be a sort of pre. destination which I will leave to the Reverend Bench to explain, that whenever the French take ally cuentry ()rimy prisoners, they shall have some lot our money also. I can hardly account fur the infatuation which possesses those men who suppose they can defend Portugal, by sending a supply of British money thrre. -Lt might as well, in fact, b' I expected to accomplish that by sending over the Woolsack with myNubleFiietid upon it [n/augh]:. I Thu Noble Lord concluded with stating his While. Ilion to vote for the Amendment. . • . The Earl of BUCKINQIIAMSIIIRH vindiS cated• the opinion and consistency Of hitt Noble Friend (Laird Sidmouth). its • • Lord HOLLAND animadverted tr/itlit the con,: duct of Ministers with regard to Spaisskiiiirlsektiij sal, awl expressed his regret that a' Mori eligigfil amid liberal system of policy had not heild'betesr 1f6 . 44 . upon. the privileges of freedom kid' been emirates' to the Spaniards, lie was ,. persuaded the the struggles of. that peosski ssoiteddiitive' led toff 11 .Very dinerent result from time. ilthei4s 'hoar- liaaftilf' too probable. When he measetpUild fravdditn lit' "Wished to be distinct'!" witlieviti3oll tes• m ean 1 'ing that description of freedom fiir which h. 111117,3 hart been, and 111%.4ys *404 •ceittira ported the Ainend rnem. destroy three it is, and had withi n ti lt period, and'ito little or no purpme, expe‘iii more of tho and, pecuniary resource the country than any of their prodectss on done in tho course of. 10 years. Under these e k cuinstattees, their Lordships could not give t 6,7 their. confidence in- the further prosecuting line it e d f i : i t t i ) tz w t heiltilitoouotki ry placc: . - For the Original Proposition, For the Am i d Pre'e..t Present 41 Proxies ki • • Pt,, 121 se. Majority 30. Adjourned. LIST OF THE MINORITY. PRESENT. Cll, welder - Ileheiter ' Moira I. orfiilk • ; Cowper • Pons on h y Somerset • (.r.is• emir Erik Ow - Siailiird Breacillbene Car)slint Laluidowpe Heed fort },ti fiord Grey Bri,tiii l)itog ia4 Spencer Hal ketry I)aniley Rossi) , n pandas ea rrialton Locaii t 'asnillis Keith Derby H o lland Are-Me Donnughmore Lauderdale El lenhurbe r % 1 'Mallet Gre:eiv i Ile Emu r‘. A I teinarle Sit. John thford H aid w icke liesisorough Rochester i Eszex re.OXIES. Tankcrcille Anson . Berle Duncan Camnrron liniehintse Ashburton Montfort Waltlegnoe Dc vonsh,re l!belinondsjey . 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Mr.-Wel I eslert toitfiree Igol4riati several etc • r ; 7A messago-feirm their Toirolliiiiisis El eft . is ihts 11°110 to trommuoicsie to thilpilasi. • ili bEf # :r(4:47:o . m - trli t t ' t ' ee ;pun ft/P . * I isillc •toofilistilsl tiun feet's& Sugar and 110/fusee, :,• ••• .., " ..,_,, ... . • sCIIIMPT,EVE,ternaIr: .I..fird POItCHES:FEK too* tit ii OMir 4 "the Day, made at the lest wieWing ef theitin for now resolving ittelf into a . oeltnittet, foiht4 ther inquiry on the sithjeet.ot the Scheldt Hip& tip*, : it - being past.foirr o.'et or Ic.. • . Mr. W L IIAI4IOI4 . said, he Juhl no 'doubt Phi (L . , 11 ) 0p Lord, oath Ow Iformarslil• Mal( with 4 wWirr he acted, conceived- 04E.: by • 01 forward' the!..foqiiirjr. r .they, were' :acting - iii. good Or fro . c4ttiptry ; but he could not help+ nor Ting; that whiles.they . were thus professing to uphold tht good protheir cannery with one hand, 4ii'''Vet:re puttiujetit down with Cie other, 1 1' pressin ... ~g ' which,. heist ' i lia occasion for such -extreme hurry, before* !moreL._ ... urgent concerns of the agriculture and pie 'in.e rce ,i 4(. the nation, which. could not, admit of per delaf without real injury to the public in. terust..... ,Ile . rather imagined, the Gentlemen, is urging the Inquiry to a hasty conclusion,wereorr tuated by a desire of removing his-Majesty's Mink! 1 tors. But he a cull ask them, if they conceived the best mode of promoting the illteltst s at ( 4 , country, with a vie* r.) the. future, Was by 1 4' tending, its the first instance, to a retrospect ei the past ? or what possible ineoovenienea OW arise, if the further progress in'the Inquiry Al be deferred until to.morrow, in- consequence the 'louse proceeding, in the first instance, II matters or more immediate inippitance Ow ia . " ll ' ing, namely, measures for• - the hotter regskfla a of the rojonufactures and trede 'of the coontry? There - was a Bill before the Mimic for the oral lion of Distilleries, fbr instattee of grr ace' ' gency ;• as the existing how npOsi tbat subject PIM expire ill forty •dsya from the cummeroMolaal 4 the Session. • lisirty' of these . days wettt . !dre a f expired't 'there remained butt ten dayi more M ll ' discussing a Pleasure e(-.so otuch.-itsteeest ifo'° l " ittaglia, — rhiotigh both flouses ; and evesilhe.f l4l4 l , or a sirixle hour might be highly dariourfla Mr. WHIT BR 1..: AI) said, -he could mill al r f t with the speech of tree Itolejiebtrenum in I" points; n•amtly, that tu.:inercoor'was the rifore!, and that the renitival of hie Mit . fiarty's present M 1 ". nisters was a desirable object with hissed! ea those friends with whom he haJ the honour goo' log; and the 'Mere so, because he understood dfd the Right lion. • Getitleman joffpo'oi(o .(wa aniA'f " frOml .Mr..Perceral), whom. ka aid Dot estwel to find at this day.a Ale:ober Oils hiajet.iy's Ob i !' , lice, was, cog ti. , ,eit in .concert! ag with Lir:0; 1m l halus •attd I.ord *ilgravt4 two ether Ykalb°_, ' of. that. discordant Cabinet, in contrisirrefe rw fur the dofottro u( laoctregol i s an 3 for sending oot Mote troops fur thodefeoce sir (....odis. Thellot 6 6 1 1 . 4i pleased:to say he (Mc. Whitbeeml) 7 his trieffira had the ;Odd of; the* cue flarY At hes ios ll. fie..wo . 9ld oval actept gas complitnent, feeling f it w.ai • inuanj ironicel 1y... , 1 Thit• they haq,ku. , eff e i l . t!t0,c494 44,.the:op!ntry toed, at Licari, boo ",..,,," %Mit 11 144100 of the strongest proofs of 1 m" . ,.. let try was theirsentons a ish to remove 0 1, 0 1 • wntqifildsters... lie 'tad au wish whas* l ',. s r • iffcola Inflict.. Of "tbst country, sir eisr!o“; - • t - ,, d 0ut,..u1l - the progiti4i) of the . .,.ftstilleff tai l i4 4 l. 14 , ,satipor tog the. order of Ilfs Pay, at the sNry l sift o .~ because the basis of Mega tots ! broad for its c*rfileu #or ttie kippidiesg•An4 Au/Lifil hebeeEriovernituntit-ot Spain' t 71: rvies, ;) l it y s. b ra c E li y evt.: p, "t: Alpits:dd have. triumphed ()VI &JOA had Almost .in the contioetwf •12 months ~- 10 luc Clv Ire