The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-01-24 00:00:00

*age has become so general, that every man under stands the leading principles of the Constitution. Who now requires to be told that by the Bill of Rig h t o'er great ebeeter, it is enacted, that thepeople shoal De fully, frosty, and independently represented. in the House of Commons.—(Applause.)—Whether they are so represented is a point to which I 'hail come by and by; Oentlemen„faces 'areifubbern things, sad carry with them mote weightsmileoftvietion thaw - - the 'mom .Pslisiredperlh4s, or the uMst brilliant oratory. - Now, Gentletheo,ol cep contan, you bulain... facts, . that, ' ender tfie oent , nettle, there is no permanent safety for your libiededos propertiei t 1 sholl.feel more satis faction than if I were gifted with the most splendid dis play of rhetorical eloquent(; Os I& that use, your con .srreoce with we will be, the. result. of courictios— (Hear, lifer, bear —l, have maid, • gentjeuire, that the siiffietiltice and , da ngers by which the country is SW, rogoded l hart Ogle msiply from a prolate and improl sideat expenditure oldie pablio ogmey—en eppeoditure ao. enormoesi,lhat It wouldappeer,a fiction ills were, not popabre,ofAbe molt rigiddemonatretiou,, r la Overtime to chit part of the question 1. tip.: WA 19104,4 0 trust 19.mealors,,apdelpill,therefere Amid ~to ,Jots- certain .00 1 14 i have Omit,. Nit/m.ll, O Am expose VC d 1 1 141ic , mover. i It will.,p4aps estate 1 Mt* . ,flse In . Was Pt i/Allt. , rififsfis Ashes liniFS tii ,) 41111 11 shlks.reige of tbeilaPe King, &period of flity oiseyeers. there wastbree , times woes MOW 44,9 6 dea ilia II alit .reigns of the faJ Sovereign* lobo preeeded,liim, daring a period of 7 0 0,yeers-- (A person In the crowd, we feel it ; hear, hear I).—At tbe end of Ike I nof Aetna li, the money spat daring the 700 years . b efore 1 14 Petiodtotuonetail to 79,060.4 W., awl the ational Debt then amounted to • 129,632,000 t.. DUNI the rape of Demo . the Iftd. alone, there was esPoreded , id Vreat Hittite the sure 6/2,57,441,262/. Neer, Gentlosseb, id seethes *frills hi al •i t army be neces hey to take movirithoo one mode of explanation. If wet pletirloo;ooo 7 gillieistatignebothe i ground,lbe7 would ontrithretid ) ohe iiid, *Selves the slim Weft its England. In.j the' reig_n of, Qeotge ~11,1. alone, tonhillittead oilie round die Tiltiol+ettfk; a &mince ii /of tlli '1 4 1401 _ 6 f miles'? Durin g the Ugh' i 'reigi, (hi rteti , i klib lanai that is to aay; fool itztklirtlilrid MAI obe ik itit diillion to two,mtlllonl;,dgitch,',wlih.thEy god.Of tar itlon;mstle in fociease.•cil" a Million Ind it ,)laff to the ionsumer, maid eg, a sum` offire.lidis i i; titit'sontld Of the whole kingdom.—(Heer, heir, heir ; --. l Yott will pirbtips • inquire by whom Abii incrieased 'ordeti wits 11041 Was it by the higher classes? ,Cerpdolymott, It wit paid by tbe.reat'ltody of the people; it Wit plat eyery man who drank his pot of pciricr,,,ond'Alt . •, etelse dnties. Aciording to a recent ellettlidita w It I beet sera. theMolllllo9lll of ttese Lt dotes ' i to 17,0110,01 A) of settle, or to i Phil; . 4 0 Ik o. il4 iipr i. houses, in each 'of Which there were frooktvo, IX Ira seine The htghe't Clasies compo s e ibout' u obelk this number, bring ip the proporti o n of five to old ' • died` led forty fite;aroriet this one fifth lissom' aktof 'a If the privilege of legislating for, and taxing the WV if commanity.---(Shatne.)-1 shell now take the liberty of, stating to you the situation of the Moose sof Commons as it Is related to the Conatituentkiedy. La tie itelebrOWwl Petition of my Lprd Brey,,w bleb yap grepted to the. goose of Comwe orktfie 6t1i,0f115.1 #9 a and which life upon t rTa e unanswered to' tide iv; it is stated r. hey br that, rliii orijoiity of Members for Vnglillid and'Scotlend were'relnreed 'by 16,000 persons odd of a pirptilatholgtf /7,ooo,ooo.—(Hear, hear, hear ;)—k appears oho:frost a Itetern recently made, that iliatturesireo•matio..tq House of Consmons as feMenst:-- - •, • " 1 i ii i . nila .tir. •• • TA England iihdlytost. ' •i Pr 1..„ ... in ......,. •' , ..T, -ff -.." p_p"! ylif-, . Ireland., iit;sl il.i • . )1 1 1.1 . • . 44 L: oil , • ' Total retuned by 1 , 144 ...,.., 7 s g The returos,by C4,nooers were as follo*:--,- • la Anglai4GolloWiter 197/terabers by Commoners: ..1 .:s /I/ Jain rethiminorsars. Members. t.p• it.is.l4 return 14 , • „. •• 19 20 • 'OVernment . . 16 1 - . , . Makleg . .• . •-187 444 retnenal by Peers . ~ ,; atilt Aild . yob make a total of _ . ,-"',,' 4..'. ..97.. • The wifole Dumber of Membeffli ... • • the House of COIMIDOII/1 ill j• I • 's tkati So that only 171 are returned by t h e body of theprople. (Cries of ' Shame.") It had been stated by my hoed J. Russell in the Hoene of Commons, that upon all questions for the redaction or retrenchment, the Members of 33 boroughs, the population of each was under 1,000, the votes tvere found to be against ibe motions 44, and. is favour of them oily —. lo thirty one boroughs, the population of which was near ten thousand, the votes were for the motions 3i, against them 21; so that in • every instance as the population increased the represent atives were found more attentive to the wants and wishes of their constituents,—(Applause.) We had formerly an Act which at one period existed in all its integrity and vigour ; I mean the Act of Settlement. By that Act it is provided, with a view to protect equally the edible of the people and the true interests of the throne, thet no person holding a place under the Crown should enloy.a seat in Parliament. But observe, Gentlemen.how the.spirit 'tibia Ant lies been frittered away. And here 1 must observe, that our opponents can't cavil with us ; for- what I aim going to state is a confession of the House of Commons itself. There' are at present eighty-nine AI mashers of that House who receive from the public rese.no Vas than 170,3431. 13s. 4d. (A person in the (road, t , We all know hose they vote.") There are, irt• addition to these, many military men who hold seats; to these, however, 1 don't think it necessary to allude more pirticulirly at present. But, Gentlemen ' this is not all the 'families, connections arid dependants, of those Ilenibers, receive in addition money to the amount of one million of pounds per annum from the public revenues. —(Criss of shatue, slime.) After the state• vomit which 1 have made, 1 am sure, Gentlemen, if you are Made of penetrable stuff, you will take home with you an impression which will last long beyond this day; if not, sure 1 sin that nothing can possibly produce any affect (applause), even though one were to rise from the dead, for the purpose of convincing you. Gentlemen, as Mr. Canning has done me the honour of noticing me in his late splended oration at Liverpool, 1 must try to . • reply to him as well as I can.—(Hear, bear 1) it has always brew any fortune to differ with that Right lion. Gentleman upon questions of politics; but I Can say, with great truth, the there are few men whose speeches afrard me more delight. I admire his talents, his wit, end his learning, and have only to regret that abilities so splendid ire not engaged in a better cause —Cheers.) Frrim.a man so gifted, commendation must he alivays 'Recipe:o)lc, and, tiierefure, fur the honour of his notice, s sincerely thank him, and in my turn beg to state, Unit in tiny observa•ione st,:ich I may feel it my duty to mike 1 chi, toot intend to convey the slightest reefing of personal hostility.—(dear.) 'novel, I feel pleasure in saying, C hit 1 Ju.tiot think 1 have a personal enemy in the world. (Anplanse) Mr. Cronin - said at Liverpool that he looked to one's as a Monarchicel tioverruneut —as a limited Mo• tiorchy, a ith which an independent Pediment waa in• crainpetible. Now. I deny both his 1113jUr anal his con clusion. I sty that our tiovermuent is nut a limited terioarehy. Isly,and I challengecontradiction, that it is a tiovernment composed of three distinct and independ ent estates —a limited monarchy, a limited aristocracy, and a limited darnocrecy. And it 11r. Canning's argumen t as to the necessity of giving Ministers a preponiterance• in the House of Cummus is too bold, I should like to kiwi, What is to prennt the House of Commons from ) , . last thietato - itt me pressing so aisedlete on the ellaithi eserdiee of the fame- ousel of ar a Throoe,os 4b.' ... of that great shoe by. a siagle i ialivideal -is incompatible with the existence of. A limited Monarchy ? How 'plain and shop% Dentlemen, hr•trotir, and- into • what g variety "silt 'errors do they . planes who.. wander front Itt f path ? Why not at Alice cambia. thre Colostitatiat ns composed of three atateediffering in theitsnatere, but mutually can' cursing for the general t good i balanced in their opera' tion by alternate repulston and attraction, and like the Wail* areangement of the planete;anting uponsan,fm eatitible law ofharstiony and order (loud cheers)? Mr. Gunning is of opinion that Ministers shasid alwayete alde to command a majority in the. House of Commons. Now this I pronounce %else nothing shove of tyranny in ttaa, for witateeer benefit Garbs expected hum a of Comatose so constituted may also be predicated tube .most absolute despotism. s Animals,: Oar greet trail good ma% of wheat it Was said" that it were blotto be had never lived, or never died," bad in the mumble, =lnto power conferred great limits So goci ay, lint beadles were more dean cansteebollaneed by Mfg Itgagesies of a Tiberius, &Cavils, and a Nadi - Who ;Waal the saute mart to the oppression of their MI6 '• ~,,flteerp hear!). How then can we/ have any tom I,lwel In Ibis boasted Nyman of virtual vemtletestadoni which in point of fact is hardly arty representaloo stall. (applause] • lideleausingfa next position wits, that what ever might be t baseirrirction laistingiti ceresiesboroughei it would he .an art of injustice to the pritprietorsto didrancleive them. [should, like to know what %jostle% it would,be? Before:Leas be hroughtter baleen tree act of injustice I must tee some law which givestS4 private iudivideai as great an influence is the Hotfaro! Callum» as is possessed by the inhabitantt et the Clrf ,ni Welded nee er and- the • Preeholders 'of tia (Mutter if Teak pit Melba% But 1-altogether ties" Itbakthere Mt We any. oath law,- and I of awl* , Illeey also the ' ed,aujustiat. Dalmatia a corrupt or nitre*" aid You aill,leove the proprietor hir"terte ibe be County, mbichle di %bale either ought to kave;ot erl/201.‘clibnlokases]. . If, Isowereepthe salletiof be oinity tete he domifaird to private ielereeet - and r ceigh. 1. .! egi t ‘ hie t fi t e h h ia f e4io ; th k e s .. 46lll antla ista nose k to ll ; I .o . cCi l s o bi e . ..i i h d a reh t : i le w le ur h e m ed r an sil o ttr o s e ; ta w be a S James the Second ? Ile postiessed " a rested lief liteicliti4 filtillilrbil i kee l ,' aid" ifei 'en , ex Rel. test' . ekzil li i im a. 92 4 ,m c:L ipe 'ent ...viel —: .. f. Ao; otool itid` . 4 ti , t o". ' eill io :; ra lre r w y: ! Int ielful lila 0 : bIektMANICISPIIIMOIMIfIarII.. Oh I L Helena,.; wishes& thivririemb4 lid ; iselot horrors, , iriestas.varadlii# iollie .I. bed '0 Wier Idiom'. dry ioek• .11h* Aseiiil pl 6 ll4, lo lefi:iipisftioili . tiottrier, ' 4 1411 0 " it 4 'PI 4 e3 44. ,i 4 0 1 . 111 0.. 6 0 1 mirth.. *Oft • . iradeiet ' to li t elk .. rAief front' Ilti,jogreat, enemies of his country.-.7(440pid end repeated cinema) 4 7 4%, Cana,/ neat Itel;oe7bio . stand spiel the did- . /amid& mid likely .I%tileiseeto. the meat,' feol% alteration of the constitution. Clentlemen,. I genk Ilnitany ledger' ii 'llliatt fir 'ariie hart the change which tie Ilrotintle. b. Toeil t f& lit of ' yon osionciinai. Idevainted with t i, hlftuf..ef tite country, and I i therefore fearlessly ask wftsait pre we to say to those Iwo greet change!, the HSformation and 'be, 4sefi. lollop ? . ditiSki Ake, we to say to two INenawiiialt have slate takes.. Ohms (one -of them le ostr. awn time), 4y which two Parliaments were net only reformed, but detsally-extlegoished? -What are we to say 'to the -disfranchising of Shorehan, and Ayieshuryi and Crickla.de, and Grampounk all of which .took place without our hearing aotenanur of Complaint—(Hear, I hear. 1) ?—.Mr. Capaing.k . ready to sacrifice Gram pound and old Sarum—that is to say, he is ready -to throw 'occasiosally.% tub to the whale, provided we selionribim and his Maids' to- keep possession of that - OM/trail in the House of Commons, which he 'states ,te 'be so necessary to the well-being of the Governmest. Ile has told us that we had once a free Parliament, and has asked what they did ? Answering the question, he replied " why they overturned your Constitution I and decapitated your king." It is true, gentlemen, i that both thrse things took place! but then Mr. Can. ning overlooked a material point, the mention of which i would have made his argument light as a leather in the scale ; he forgot to tell you of what description of per sons hat Parliament was composed. He forgot to tell you that, on the 4th of January, 1649, that Parliament came to a resolution that the kingly office was useless; and thatall power was vested in Parliament; he forgot to tell you that, on the 224 of January, 1643, sixty mem bere were expelled the House of Commons for uttering their opinions ; he forgat to tell yon that, on the 29th ofJune, 1644, 200 members who still adhered to the cause of the King were disqualified from sitting, and that, shortly after, one hundred and forty-three mem bers were excluded or imprisoned ; ho forgot also to tell you, that of the 8:1 members who arrogated to them selves the whole power of the state, 67 were returned by what Bishop Burnet calls the roven part of the Consti tution, the close horoughs.—(Loud cheers.)—lt is not possible, gentlemen, that the arrogance of power may again be manifested by a pitiful few ? Yon have seen the coalition which took place upon the India Bill, where the ingtience of a few caused the House of Com. mons to vote in direct opposition to tne wishes and feelings of the king, as well as the majority of the peo ple. Sappose a similar coalition were to be made with the king, what, I ask, under such circumstances, could preserve the country from absolute • despotism e What can save us from an apprehension of it bst_the remedy which I now propose ?—(Cbeers.)s—fientiemen, 'I fear I detain you too long.--4" No, no.")-1 have the pleasure of knotting, that I have always to the best of my judgment, endeavoured to terra my country ; and I hope 1 shall through life continue my efforts to do so.—(Applause.) Before! conclude, I must again call upon you to raise your powerful voice for re lief from the heavy distresses which surround as, end which, if not remedied, are likely to end ir, a national convulsion. The measures of tiovernment have the effect of ruining the farmer, they cause the daily dilapi dation of the cottage, and the extension of the work bou.e.—(-lear, hear!)—What then are we to do? We .must have a change of measures, aye, v.nd of. those teen ton, who, if they have not entirely ruined i bare certainly deltsilPil you - those men a l to have goaenn attributing your distresses to any thing but the right saute—those men a no have told you that the sun of Tour prosperity war merely under a clon:1, and would in a ikon titne break out with additional spleirfilour; while, alas! 'the' gloom was becoming greater, and the distress mortal). palling.—(Cheers.)—Let us then unite; let us get rid of those men and of those measures, and we need not fear that the great national storehouse of talent a ill furnish us with men who, governing us In justice, will find their greatest ..ileastire in scattering plenty over a smiling land, and who will feel more titan amply repaid 1 by reading their own history in the content and happi netts of a grateful and adoring conntry.—(Land cheers.) fientlrmen, when James the Second was leaving Fraser -for the purpose of trying to regaio his lost dominion.. -the King .of France at parting said to him, " 1 can't 'holl , agoilLs-etl'he ilessporabprpettilernan concluded oe thefrodt of the'histings'amidat loud and *neural •eireeehrgl).4wHe thew rred - the follow ons • 0-,lteeeivotta I. That the Constitution of Ade GeOstery is a Government eonsistiog of Three Independent States, a Li mited-Mutants, sr tholted - Arfstoefafy,ifirde liatlied De = maple,. That each i.e Its distinct and'peotaliter Maims Rod privileges, am! that, gee of these estates cannot nudely hilluence the functiofie. Of either of the others without din. Witless that balance which . is essential to wens and perpe tuate,pie Vaileds edventages . which may be..4etlved.to Abe people frouitittiorausent so eoustituted. •d . 41 , • "3. That pouse,Of i:oettneeti.ps 0 paatamKeermoimade does not express the Nationm vilit. oil Alaroatiorg i i Ohlism too generitry'profed its readiness to autp*.silitho the died litre of erhol'oaTtr i Aliolool#lol4ll 6 4ll4~llll l ol6ll4 ll of Use eshown.,. i , 4 • . . ,f/ .. . a ~,,t. ••• " 3. Thit ihe'effedifOrtbe present State, of ,* A pow pt* Commons hoe!) Iron the wanton and profligate expenoituse' of the public mosey, aid the u n print*lked,.eenot lea pod ems tionsoce of hieless pieces and unmerited psomfuns, In Pe, fiasco of W. loud am 4 irneral expression - of Ittupitbile fad log. • 4. That ;liable's , pressure or 41141 of tr17.4293 0 ' forth'. pailiolle dr sityportiod an eitiaiagoint ' lit t, and of atiletalning.a entn*sly large Milltarianif eehaelOl Es tahllahnsteit. hi totally Incompatible with' 'itite of profound peace and eeknoirlidged security. ' - " b. Thet the Oily measure vihlch'ean remedy these mile" and preserve the country from the dangers thit may be foa l s cipated.fronr it condo . of them, is a speedy and efft* teal Reform In thee one{ House of Parliament. "13. mot , PrilitY • 'rounded on the abOte Restilutlocab bifilliiiititfl inkpresgOied to the House of Vern ?Mt", Thilktotrllll. Peret. id seconding qui 0it44f 0 114. I p ia ,44Pretissielhietleci4ed consictro,n that• not) ng lint 111- ferm conk, ',OF tlle country fray, tke l eiij pith...while% '. ieeweie ituientlittled: He eudfessed Wit lie hatif . fertootip; ' advocated differentnioctrines. and, .we bite re-convert ' tto his present opinions, but b. felt that wbspethepoidow was almeadynO4 whets ia, awl no imilmetwit watt mteicieed ' inkhorns. is became the duty off every *awls , siert 'hilts • ;self for the welfare of his coup,—(We regret tba t gni lateness of the hoist . peseintethiTivii gitlek , lll . .' ' . .• Gentleman's speech to detlilyi•' • •' • - - A - I - • . . ... . _ .. 1 On-the - question that the tiesolotions be ~ , 1 Mr, §..Wmeiorif.sii4L- 1 w Cut eAa i: . ~ • tii 3 to fresspassroponihe ideerffig at outer ' le.. 7 1 1, .bat 1%601 ftsPktpilitibli inddlgente:" . dflovlt y fr f. ' appear Isere wit qeelltilgte4ll6 . .oplotiOni,wllielg, pit (rola Itisso' dile site Iwo Ivo . Mop. Arieiods.whitu to LlP i ec 44 4 4lll o. lAt, 4411 ,1 1iPa041 - ~ , ~.. . 1 .TI; ! :Pig Of u Ist iOli . mit aoolislodw,4 ... . . - • ' Rt. kAir Kg s gatma.figfria lit amidtremolo/ dia:Mweirgr woultl i favour him for a moment. Every Sentlesoad Iva entitled to a fair4hatiOOPQllll:l4l.-eilleil ho Ar il hen2 l . Engliih to* eidt eowefiesel if * Me , lithi. Fne ,IMbei a manly coodeet entitled binelei ithilifitti, ipde tnclittr' • er flie elstre*lirelPhie Miff litibetlieldjollftittriflig )is dutLat t i fieti'Repos'entallit.Cfinhr of " cm Ja - IllleOlf. 4, . iassi. th. i. , ,h4d...letto ..i 0.04' '•7l e_ ii). TP .. •-.-QPnt1109 1 0,411. , J, NW " A I foie, 1 ear i.i ill be obliged to drawfsenely sipamegteo indulgence. .1 ass awe* th,at Illith)p•ltC WOW:matte(' I'l4o i feel it my.glots fP *VW , ortioti nix , rep - pant to the feelings ut a great majority of this matting; I know also that of 'Maids' ifrerieldAyi.'llllLiVead from 'those of many amends mei.lntimtill,tkritlerakts, 1 Alfa tat II hare a dot, to pitrforni..which/ duty '1 atm 11014- ined to discharge.-(dear, he 0) •Vetstiemea, alit iltlititleine me the fibtdie'df, ;ele4tlnieinelta your Nip ; nento r ii4 14 e, and I lisii v 4ii,,a(4ol. Itepreseutahve: `''' enk bed one opinien .14 £, bare not been. and . efiieh • am not et this *stow prepared to, defend.— ear, hear.) I shall, therefore. throw myself upon floor candour and good nature fur a patient hearitir ; -...even upon those points en which we ace most likely to differ. Should I even speak of the fallacy of the argils [nests of my boneorable-feieneli er thoold•l- - teli you that you are in a sitastlon'tb be doped by spreleas ar guments ; I hope 1 shall' thtian no irritation of ftiek'sf : as-certainly I bare. not the slightest wish to de , m. (Hear.. hear.) If I speak at all I must speak holtilY I I. must Speak too with• siteentilence of being heard, in' ' else, with every respect I say it, it were better' Istiourd not speak at all. Aty honourable friend; ZIP,. raP,lces, has put his argument in the faitest possible ppiuner.— (Hear, hear!) I am - free to admit also, rhatlf,my,liti- Pourable friend's premises are just, I fully epee, with his couclusion (hear, hear!), that it would be right to call upon the House of Commons to reform itself,' ,Bat 1 deny.his premises, and beg to add that both toll . and he have taken a wrong view of the subjedt. 1 deny that there ii any influence exercised at this moment 'lb the - Iroise of Commons which has not been exertited in a similar manner, during the last 400 years, both by the Crown and theAristocracy.(No,no.).lrl convince you that this is the fact, I think rmay turn round and ask if the country has not enjoyed many privileges and blessitigs during that period (no, no ! and laughing), and whether we have not to boast of many tbloge Which ,mnst have arisen solely out of a state of cod Giverhineet (no, no) 1 usaintain that sincti'lbe rejigs et iiitatT tbe • Eighth and Elisabeth, the iollitence it{ tlittlrtstocrary has been what it is at present.(" it ought to have been put an end to lung ago '). The Hlonottrable - 040tlethan proceeded to contend that the, Ihsrough• of Old Serum and others had been is the same situation. for centuries. that they were at present. Adverting to what had been said of Mr- Canning's speech at Liverpool, he observed, that that Right Honourable Gentleman had, in Odious. of Commons, on Lord John Russell's .motion for Re form, fully proved that so late as the end of the 16th century is Earl of Esiox had nominated. not only the County Members fur tits County of Stafford, but bad written to the Sheriff to nominate all the Members in that County. It was just the same with respect to the borough of Maldou (speak to the point !). The Hon ourable Gentleman quoted Brown's Notidu Parliamen taria for the purpose of chewing that several of what are called rotten boroughs had been Lotto-4 present state for centuries. One borough, which had obtsined its elec tive franchise in the reign of Henry the Sixth, had in the reign .of Henry the Eighth lout one house, and even but one inhabitant. Here then was a state of things which had existed fur centuries (cries of "we know that, but .we wish to alter such abuses!") In the case of the borough of Newton also, he found that the members were nominated by the Steward of the Lord of the Barony.—(Here the Honourable Gentleman was prevented from proceeding by the clamour of the Meeting.) Mr. WILLAN, of Dewsbury, made his appearance upon the railing of the Hustings, but his coming forward rather increased than diminished the tumult which prevailed. 'rise Molt Stienivr rose to address the Meeting, and alr. Within instantly gave way. The High Sheriff then expressed a hope that they would give a candid hearing to every Gentleman who clone forward. Mr. Worruct proceeded.—lle was aware that such dry details were tedious, but how was he to answer the .tate.sents of his llon.dtrahle Friend but by facts? Here. then, was the proof that any alleged abuses exist ing in the House of Commons were, et the least, of 400 :years standing [4 person in the crowd. "Tell as net what it is—but what it ought to he !") The Honourable Gent., after a variety of other observations in defenc., of the existing order of thing., and against Reform, in the coarse of which he was frequently interrupted, was at length so loudly assailed, that notwithstanding the repeated exertions of the High Sheriff, air. Fawkes, - &e. he sees obliged to retire fruits the front hustings. Mr. Willett, of Dewsbu►y, now stoo for a similar purpose, but Isis influence was un- Jr. I MILTON presented himself to the attention of the .nsr. boot Mr. S. WORTLEY intimated, we believe, that he had not macbtokil hia aptecb,_ The.latter Gentleman again cause forward. an after the clamour with which he was assailed on hie re-appearance load in tome degree sObsid eulireenalowed isle obeervations. Adverting to levies of M be brief" item •the hustings and from the body t f the sweetie"), he savored them that be would be as brief its -be could, and that be should have been much briefer had it.not been for the into:rut/ions he had met with. Had a rnostdilbrult part to play on the present occasion. Addressing, as he did, an unwilling andierrce, the inlet `motions iv 'lrilitis lee was /mooted necesoorily led to gems delay. .!If titer wished' him to be brief, the only way Wavle !Woe to lorm.ile was sure that be felt no grvali ,i nt i et ys., ntesp y rh,ie time, for he could assure itit.ti ithattheaitotatiostla wlOilite Iris plaied was not themost agreeable In thiSiorld'; for was there *ay thing in that sitoaties, sebtals-000ld-iadoee-itito to Aletsio these a single moment beyoiderboe Was Itisolutely necessary. g f stopi,there ko support fof i Nlsat be called prla t i, ides, entf,hl' Mt thkt lit bad; a grglii to' he beard,"... (104411.0.144 . 4 was aboott • tp my, when he wee iti kereophed. *mit wag. wet lift tor • biro to conjecture what wee* fife objects 040,44 1 11ersons who demnr.d Reform, beeu s u . '!" thoi ettonlittlotis proposed by those piersoni, and to whicla {bet hod obtained the concnr• renew of large bodies of the people, sufficiently dei Oared those objects. Fhb `objects so avowed, he (tf .i.{{ IY,4,4ntiee4.l4yertily of the people, and cal. ' Ottlabol to twlrtot ditmeice Ayes •liee. coesitry. Te N T - as Arti , Sawed; ' Ube idesiguvf which was n. 4 a :: 6i24l i ooosißlNNe . daelered his ' 11. ellirk 1 at }si, 1 14 1 :' c1143d ! tr.' sift • AVaty sad. plarit.4 alv:ileiet Mabel wit wish life, antes the lea 1 401 loni Niktito lilsed . tflSAittrtittibi tittle* ; Ai ftlffet : 0 4 Intritrifo . oh .oeiifliP'eto ( r * PliCeouinla 1 -• . Lk ". •••• •• 1:44 . se, of tuitions. IA was.uemLaohteilly true that Ithera worts thw.ilatse Ofiffitnwlfeats a lady of eightc 'nine Pl4cemen, it ehvojd by recolleetrd,' hewn.. -. that.l%cef soerpsitt s liiinien 're that lioase bell a grater) , ago, eje,:a e a • ki t pejo , orf facet the Dumber Pbealeseiliall be.. eatililert*- trdoseeSf,j' autt:he Phittsit . eFie;74llll4e * tOspeat,::„NektritpprOved. It. .::. o li g Nioli tii •14 L . .. rtrio ad . Is* propertied 0 -Bill •es isaaisdajlaseasti -teem tba, Waite 4 of •ibennnott, t ilt) is proposition irputd. ac,lbest -bityt bet a 'deter. inate. ,objr44,. inf: hit, . tt;'ll',4." iliould hays. • . . ..9, 1 5 4 911, 1 011f s inedsre Ruff * 1 44409 itetil prerwarl resolution reconatneulisto, 4erge4iliailesohiseld have nownyt *sot "Ivo theit.esenakaY • Now deft lie `(Mr. s)tatouldettairet caisson los iteliiieham •asentilely, and llarbegt that astesnWy ilieesbersfsiteesit Britian, that the Honse of Commons, as at pieshetr eosseeltetvd, was a bitty whibboabgbtlescit to oils& • Re wee far from saying that the constitution of that body aili• altogether free frenrdefectrriteadmitted - tbargriat amendments isii;e4t he made with regard twits. Meer et tkcting members of the 110123 C of CilstidiLe' It till lials:JF't readhi motion had.geseraoissesberettesebie, heshinlel isaventillersteed • ilia object.ae4Apeope, of biainotion ; isslestil • there wet, 40 1,_ i•litiv.hil44lbc(4R.W4** l . l lll o 9lllll.4(l/001 eillitil eo care t h an certaltaryspate three preimut • but he wouzi ter coustufo tie ItIMAT Ai. resol it .i on. ; . 40e, olli 0 , :et 'wliich was ' .o cry down t ii . (loose of Cotimons Ass unit , Ilk cw ry.ult Idlif•froesensmense At •tbe eau airy, - amough tare were somearegalaiimth br which • hr was. twilling. E , consent, be would net t 'beerever , tall them by the ! sale Refernsi becalamPfsvdlit Case te'vnigillgyi expert to to Oldie thtirladVaiitispnied 1 1 4",ffire. He I4id not deer that thereattightba sourifaults and Mots .its lei, contilielli)ei 01' tVA,flotipe atm tee n% far no .4 hu t: iianstititild'ii Wks tr 4 "from' such blots. lie would .4 ?se WorAl as to the inflaeace of time/own ; for he Hind end, in opposi dots to hisitton. Friend, that the ineu withe,Geown in the House orCominons wal actually , sego*. thew it %las fifty years ago.— voice in the sireelit Sestelahmed,• Billy Wilberforce admits the influence elf thelliblemiti be tee greet.] He had a respect for Mr. WillarceikillYbut be wOltlffiiitebis Opinions from no miti. s tir'hillivefl i ciiilstri . bomber of years: daring which be bad-endeartotred teinfortu himself of the tia , titre ot * the constitittipumf his country, and lie would steadily !tethere to the principles which he hail itubidest. He affirmed that the influence of the Crown bed not in. creased, but was .such diminished within his messily.— . The great sourcetof the 'Whence of the Crown ha I been cut off. Within the last 30 yeaes the Crown hadbsea choir. ed of one great source oriplhrenteariti'ng from its direct revenues. The slate of the p ublic :p r ess bad Asti .v re considttrahly diminished th e tnlllnence of the Crown. Let them look back to the meant qf influence which existed in this res?ect 311 or 40 Years ago. Oust fathers :and grandfathers saw a Newspaper once a week; whereas at the present day there was nut a village in the kingdom where the inhabitants had not an opportunity of seeing. a paper every day, and the means of obtaining informas tion with regard to public matters were Universally di.. fused. Was it possible to suppose., th•tt this had nut a great effect in counteracting th.ireuenceolthiCrown't He would ask whether the publication of the, debates in the House of Commons bad nit materially centribpted t• diminish this influence ? In the American. war the debates were only published by stealth—at the• present day every man expected to see at breakfast a report of wrist passed on the preceding night in the House of of Commons. This publicity mist have operated sea direct and immediate check on the irfloenee of the Chown. He bad endeavoured to state nark temper and respect to the Meeting the grounds upon uhich lie differed from the Resolutions. Whatever :night he their decision, his own line of cuty !ay direct baste hint, and be did not mean to hold out the slightest hope that he should support them. Ile did think iu his conscience that the House of Commons was so constititted as to enable it to perform its allure in the Ceeatittrion with ads antage to the people; and that •Ite ir.fhtet re of the Aristocracy and of the Crostrh which exOteil in that House now had existed for the last tour hundred years However beautiful the theory, that the three estates • otLtlit to be totally independent of each other, he did cot believe it to be practicable; and he thought that both the Crown and the Peers most necessarily have a reasonable share of influence in the House of Commons. He cen eluded by thanking the Meeting for the reception• which they barigiven to him on the whole. notwithstanding the occasionsJ,interruptions which. he had met with, and by apslogizing for the length at a [licit lie ( had trespassA upon their attention. The Houtturalsk Gentleman con cluded amidst mingled applause and disapprobation. Lord MILTON next addressed the 3!;:tin.;:. lie t‘as sore, he raid, that it was for the interest of them .11 th it they had heard the speech which had been jest del:veer& as well as the speech-s which hail preceded it from lag lionnnrable Friends the lover and Seconder of the Ito• solutions ; because, he apprehended, the main object which they wished to attain a•as troth, and the attain• meet of truth was impossible unless they bad the meant of balancing the arguments on one side against III! arguments which might be urged on the other. For till: reason he thought that they, as an impartial body, had done right in hearing the speech of his Honourable Friend and Colleague, and i t he add d them as fa• rowers of the Resolutions, he should say that in that light tbe l y,lo4.,acted rightlyi for iu hearing his THE STATES. -, IL ' ,-; . - i ;ter to Itle. Pet 1 116stiii of; las 1 4. 4/ ii r t ifr. ; '..° f '". . m ', than by t saying, Ili t oot. tO l 1 f t ~ . lien lemen, ilb .0 0 e P* Or tlill le o noisenwe mt. in ow tbegre"4l e deitendent Ho of et t 7 0 •4 ' • 'nit of active life titip‘efille ibtll intills ft Incompatible with the existence Of the monarch j 'to de pressing my most •nt dope that thi "availins 1 *P . prayer of your Petition may be beard and Alltailed We . Lord 1 ) ! 116$144 A toltoillitikeri *lift •I'tlogra 10- 4 1 1rnut bpth ' aniAleit4-eimf:siiiilieWomitip — pisiteintrie efireteressing* ' Mee. ini HI be Ho Pl' ba al 01 to hl 01