The National Register. — London, England, 1820-05-21 00:00:00

let: • ► inperial. iJailtaMent. • nous)... OF LORDS. MONIJAY, MAY IS. T' , e Earl of Albemarle, the Earl of Hopetoun, and the Earl nP Gc.,:lant took the oaths. *l*Je Earl of ALBEMARLE present:xl a Petition from the Ow:Ars and Occupiers of Land in the Parish of P.tinhall. in the CotimY of Northlk, praying relief under Agricultural Distresses. The Noble l.arl also presented a Petition from the Owners and Oe:apiers of Land at ‘Vehley, in the County of Hereford, praying relief in agtietditiral distresses. The petition complained of Cie sale of foreign elm, and stated that they expected relief in the way it has been extonded to the manufacturing interest. The Noble mid wormy Earl intimated that he te.ls not present :it the meeting ; he had, however, to state, the Petition was most resotetablysigned. The above Petitions were read, and ordered to lie on the table. The English insolvent Debtors' Amendment Bill was read a axond l'he Marquis of C 1401,NIOND ELM' laid on the table certain returns relating to the expences and allowances made to Foreign Ministers, made by Order of his Majesty, and in consequence of the Address of the House, voted on Friday. Adjourned. TCESDAY, WAY IG. Several Lords took the oaths. 'f he Bishop of ELY presented a Petition from the owners and occupiers of land at Wisbeaeh, in the Isle of Ely, praying relief under agricultural distress. The Earl of MOUNT EDGECL'MBE resented sixteen Petitions of a similar description from the agriculturists of thc t ounty of Comwall.—Laid on the table. The Insolvent Debtors' Bill went through a Committee. Lord C II on P E presented a Petition front the merchants. manufacturers. and inhabitants of the Town of sßirmingham, rasing the House to institute enquiry into the cause of the dstilorable situation of the manufacturers of that town and its Ezighbourhood. The Noble Lord adverted to the language of tse Petition. The Petitioners did not give way to nnmanly des• pondency. but required that the causes of that distress should be examined. l he Petition having been read, The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, he was desirous of learning from the Noble Earl opposite, whether it was his i -.tendon to refer the Petition to a Committee? The Earl of LIVE RPOOL.—I feel no difficulty in giving the Noble Marquis the satistisction he requires. A Noble - Friend of raise (Lord Calthorpe) has stated. that having had communi cation with his Majesty's Ministers, he found it was intended in another place to institute enquiry as to the matter of the Petition. It is a question, however, with me, whether it is not better to have a simultaneous examination in this House. I can have no objection to enquiry in this, and whenever u motion is made by any Noble Lord, I shall think it necessary to state illy views with regard to the important object of the Petition.— I am aware thug° satisfy the public mind such enquiry should take place ; but at die same time I am of opinion there should be some previous discussion on the general object. to prevent any deception going out of this Ilouse to the public. I shall be prepared to give an opinion on the general topic of the Petition, IS a proposition is made to submit it to a Committee. My Lords, I do not think the Executive Government ought to come down to propose a measure unless they could clearly see their way in proposing remedies of such an important nature. I cannot close these observations without bearing testimony. in the strongest manner. as to the temperate conduct of the mitabitantu of the town from whence this Petition comes. I can say, that great as the misfortunes have been which the population of that town have experienced, they have behaved with patience, which ankles them to every indulgence which good and loyal subjects can claim. Among those indulgencies, that of having their grie vances fairly stated. and enquired into, is not the least. The Marquis of LANSDO WNE observed, that the Petition did not point out any remedy. but called on the House to give their attention to the state of the country. Such an appeal would set be made in vain, and he expected such enquiry as would lead the House to the real situation of the country. Having learned from his Majesty's Ministers their intention on thc sub ject, he should feel it his duty on an early day to submit a motion to the HOUse; but he was fat flout thinking that such a subject inthe hands of an individual like himself would be attended with any beneficial effect. if it was left to him he should confine his motion to practical points. The Noble Marquis then proposed, that he should move. shortly after the hays. to appoint a Committee to investigate the means of extending the foreign node of this country. That would be but ooe view of the ques tion. and lie was far from thinking such a view could relieve that House and his Majesty's Government from the important duty of sifting to the bottom the cause of the evils. A duty more sacred. but more extensive, never devolved on any Government. 'rite Noble Marquis said. he should give notice of his motion on Thursday se'nnight. East GROSVENOR intimated, that the intended enquiry should extend not only to the manufacturing, but agricultural distresses. The Earl of LIVERPOOL, aid. the motion of the Noble Marquis was to rater to foreign trade, but he was ready to admit in stating a general view, he could not do it without adverting to agricultural distress. At the same time it did not follow that the :notion should be so extensive. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, if agricultural distress was introduced, it oaglit to form a distinct point in the discussion. —Hear, hear The Earl of LAUDERDALE expressed himself unwilling to cnter into any discussion on the distresses of the country.— 'fhe subject (sight to be brought forward by the Executive Government. Earl DARNLEY said it was not possible, in the intended die. oussioss, to pos over the Petitions of the Agriculturists. Lord Eitsfil NE agreed that attention ought to be paid to the Agrictiltu,al t aersu, but the subjects ought to be separanal. The EARL of DONOUGHMORE observed that the House should do no sing ip mese questions without caution. He regretted that Government did nut bring forward the distresses of ibis country. l' . .tey had tile means of being better acquainted with the distresses of t.:ti people than the Noule Lords on this side the House. He con.iueical it the duty of the Ministers to take up this Petition, and pro h iJse sonic means of reiief. the Earl of LI VZ. It .3)01. reminded the House that lie had stated his intention to oast fully into, the subject of the Peti tion, but he wished to .1.1 . 0( all explanation until the discussion Carrie on. The Petition WAS then laid on die table. Lord sTA N HOPP:, pursuant to his notice, moved that a select Commutes ue appointed to consider the ptacticability :mil means of e iiploeiag me poor in the nianufairtuting districts. The E.,fl of Id VERPOOL could nut give ins assent to the motion. lie chant nut agree to it, because however benevolent the Noble Lord's intentious might be, his projects must produce dissettt. They went to the inure subversion of the political interests of country. 'rhea were calculated to separate tile interests of the inAiiiitacturer from the agriculturist, which hail hitherto been c.o,ely connected. After some further discussion, the motion was nsgatived. and the HotEA: WEDNESDAY. MAY 17. Mr. M. A. Taylor, and other Members Isom the Commons, brought up the Stage Coach Bill. d L DroSdell also brought up the South Sea Company's Bill, as:l the Irt,h Stock Transfer Bill, which were read the brat tune. I :is Insolvtiit Debtors' Dill was read a third time and passed. ' 1 • L adjourned. THF. NATIONAL REGISTER. TRURIDAY, MAY la. The Glebe Lands Bill was read a third time and passed. The Stage Coach Regulation Bill was read a second time. The South Sea Company 1110 was read a second time. '1 he ltish Stuck Transfer Bill was also read a Secxmit time. PAPERS UCLATING TO TIIADE.—The Marquis of LANS DOW N moved for Copies and Extracts of Treaties now sub sisting with Foreign Powers relating to Trade and Navigation. It was his intention to move for a return of the Exports carried on between the United States and Canton, but, as the Earl of Liverpool was absent, he postponed that motion. The above papers the Noble Marquis considered essential with respect to his motion upon the Trade of the Country , of which he had given notice, and which stood for Thursday next. lie ther,fore expressed a desire to have the returns on the table as early as possible. The motion for Treaties was then put by Cie Lord Chancellor, and agreed to by the llott , e.—.ldinnuned, FRIDAY, MAY IX Mr. Bullock, from the Treasury, presented Papers relating to the Lnnd Tax. Mr. Johnson presented Returns of the Number of Grand Jury Presentments in Ireland. Mr. Maitland presented an Account of the Revenue and Charges of the East India Company.—Laid on the table. Petitions were presented from the occupiers of land in the Counties of Betas, Sussex, &c. complaining of Agricultural Distress. Lord HOLLAND said he held in his hand a Petition from that respectable class of persons, the Protestant Dissenters, praying the Haase to relieve them from certain disabilities, which Quakers and other Dissenters in Scotland and Ireland were nut habit: to, with respect to the Marriage Act. The Petition was read, and ordered to lie on the table. Mr. Brogdca and °Olen, from the Commons. brought up the Irish Administration of Assets Bill, winch was read the first time. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY moved. for Lord I.ansdown, who was absent," that there be laid before the House an Ac count of the value and amount of all exports to and front Canton anti the United States of America.—Ordered. Mr. Brogden and others brought up the Civil List Bill, which was thereupon read a first time, and upol the Motion of the Earlof Liverpool, was ordered to be punted, and the second reading was fixed for Wednesday next, to which day the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY, mar IS. A new writ was ordered for Carlisle, in the room of Mr. C. Corner', who hats made his preferenc for Cumberland. Mr. PANE presented a Petition from Landholders in Norfolk, complainiug of the state of Agriculture. and pray ing that uu enquiry into the state of Agriculture might be instituted. Col. LYGON presented a Petition front Kidderminster against the New Wool Taa.—ltead, and ordered to lie ou the table. Mr. COKE presented a Petition from occupiers of Land iii Norfolk, complaining of the state of Agriculture, and praying for relief. 'l'tw Hiblie Member ob d, that he deemed it due to state that he differed from the Petitioners ; he attributed the distress to causes different front those named by the Petitioners; (hear!) and that, however be might agree with the parties in other places and on other subjects, whenever this subject came to be agitated, and he should be found to darer from them.—Read, nod ordered to lie on the table. Various other Petitions were afterwards presented on the subjects of Agricultural Distress and the Wool fax. Mr. C. Modal moved the second reading of the Western Union Canal Bill, on wnich subject many Petitions had been presented in the course of the afternoon. Mr. outwit seconded the motion. Mr. W. SM t EH and Sir W. DE CBES P IGN Y followed, moving as an amesiduseut, that the Bill be read a first time this day six months. Mr. Alderman WOOD observed, that he would not call this businessajobsbut to say the least of it,it was au interested proceeding. Supposing be Bill were to go into a Com mittee, could the parties pay off the hoods ? flee gallery was then cle. , red for a division. The numbers were—Ayes 169—N ors l36—Miljurity in favour of toe hill 23. WOOL TRLDIC.—CivIL Lim—Lord MILTON said, iii consequence of the absence of toe Chancellor of the P. ache • quer, he felt it mould be right su postpone the motion regarding the injurious tendency of the additional Tax on Wool. . . Lord CASTLIIREAGH said, he was &raid his Right Hon. Frorowl would nut be able to attend our a day ur two. It was therefore his intention to suggest llle pla•trosseineost aif the convideruti 0000 of the Civil Lost Bill till Kr edisewlay • Lord mu. l'oN, under these circumstances, thought it would be better fur loin to postpone his unmans till Fl id's). Losd A ANI IL . roN brought forourd his motion, regards% the Scotch Ilaruns of the Excisequer. Au elution - ) had been instituted tutu the duties, fee', Courts Of Justice ; aU.I amongst ...tiler smatters, toe C tire had reported to that House, iltut use non oaron of the Ca chequer ought he .ilapented tt itii, .11.0 Ire 00000 mended 00 vacancy occur 1114, mat tae utU e e..uWd be vacancy ate' uccu.red, but to .pate of omit sec . utendatimi tue mixt had hero bird. ale iamented that iuco uu cveut had occurred, but d. l l/ ad taken place, he could not are how they could ay.10110,14:01, it. lie toad felt bound to boa: it under the cowadirai oC l'arliss .-rut, fur other .. sae lie kueo not nott Ile .110u1d reeoio ale 10 11111144 a rigid performance of 1110 Se duties gnat susg,lsa der Ave on him in tile pal, of the kloAd.llll 10 0114 . 4 4i• uk . l,olgra. if lie heart) connoldiuts non , he at least ,pausal be able .o say, I hat he had oboe tin utmost to corm ce 111... e it . 111 . 10:11.11 , ..11b V. hurls 11:01 area te1:0111111esided us ..dviveante priielleittlit. lie 'Would mil have to °Mille 111n10 . 1.. lie ru514111111 . 4 %ball MOVing as u itevolutiosi, that the llouve tigiced sit the propriety of the room MC01141.00 of blue Report. Fiie LORD AI/VOL.% s'. as limed Inat the }Untie untold pause before it .doiste s sues, whs. It w,ss true that the I tessasineusli meal sa u.. 1 or :11 IWO , ' 111 it Repo 1, Mid 11,40 re the then 41y 11111 l 10 , 111 ss 11l ...V, hit el.tiliir) 5505 1111.• LI 4st the la a l;1114 • 10 Ile opportunity that xi-r•.l of onape..s h tg wild oar Us Ide S1:01.CII i. 4 u. govt. it . a.lbrell I . 'ooll. it, that, slit a LIU . • regal d t's 10, sso,lise, to be pc. lur ..cd Ilbll,ll .01111111111111 . 013 New ► qii.7sx.. If tile douse Ni.buitt luu.k 4.1 otos:clog to alse non, he sisaly sal-bed II 10 111: I . t . llo,lllber. d wbs t ttaa the tads:Wiles of the prey deal tint outoti tic .el. Ise Lord us... t all d to order during his apee eh, stud ,solsolosuassaval by 1 sseSp. :rises to ft..staiso from persuss.alitics.) JoaN vir ruit r liu motion. Lulu) rcs.itc t..ii u,iy , stql it , :11111 nutved tier pevoi/413 gut- it as, but ;tad. d, tutu Ine tt fluid nut ()Aube t..e nopointmeist of .411 elliteCl.l l COURUitite of enquiry upon the sutucct. 4r. TIERNEY said, that he utver bud cattltaintd doubt this wasone of tho questions which Ministers would meet by the negative of the previous question. Whit course had the Noble Lord pursued? He mad endeavoured to make people believe that Monsters were a set of very ill-usvd gentlemen, and giving the real i ' tin dispute toe go b). be had maintained that tile Noble Lord (A. Hamil ton) had introduced a ne te• tangled, or, to u•e his Lordship's owm nio , l applied epithet, a finnan •earl proilosition. (Hear.) Opposition had often been ace ti-ed of beim; in credulous, of being utiwillin.; to pot faith nt the profession, of economy by Ministers; so help ' God, lie fur one, did not believe theist without imputing any improper motives, he did not believe that real practical economy was to be hoped fur from thion.—(Ciwers.)—They had no other chant c of maintaining themselves in their places but by holstering thews; ves uit It all kiuds of pensi ttttt , s Jane., and cowl a metes, for a hich the people paid ti great de :aid received Hear, hear.) —N..t very long store the alio liUoa of the others of inn jou or Lords of the A dosi• ratty no. moved—" No—it Wit pitiful einiCeril, a few paltry 14,-)ear, and, above all, it ' , rooks Oil up the establishment." If ally hotly spoke of re 1111 l vita; t.e third Sectetaiy of State, or of abolishing toe Secretary at War, I w cry was the same—" It breaks mu; iteestablisittuent:" It was saal then woe to the man alio lifted his u atiolo vied mold :mains! it! (Cheers.) The Nhblr Lord nail said. let h quest be tried : but the quest' had beets tried ; com oi ssmiters out already give!) an opinion upon it ; but it was •mt miended by the present mutton rt st mere, for it into the grounds tit Inc appointment. It oat, too Mira 111 hove it s.ud, I hot a hen the a hole country over lookita out for the re toy and retrenclimeat which had heen so loudly pioclitinied—it was too bud, after the ow', officers had &wit ed too °dice unnecessary briii,., his forward as oar which ou_tit to tie coutiitued. And if the Noble Ltd had fur a moment atte-ded to his former professroo of ecoiminy, lie blots. It a oulit have thought so. They were told to wait lot etiquirs, a hat was the use of enquiry now ? Let the House look lit the opinions of suite of those who concurred in this appointment. Let them consoler their experience and kilo.. ledge of the sub je, t. There was one, the present Chief Harms of Scotland (Sir S. Shepherd), who had lately been an orname n t to that House. He went down, not fully acquainted with the practice of the Scottsh Courts a stranger amongst them— and it might have beets said," Don't you think we ought to have live Barons instead of four?" To which he in hisgood nature would say," In the name of tiod, let in have fleet's anti then the Scittehmen cried out " Five fur ever !" (Hear, and laughter.) Toe Noble Lord, however, bait gut another argumeut in his favour, and hail asked what would become of Sir Patrick ,tlurray ? Was lie to lose the situation which he had berm up; ted to for life ? He (Lord Castlereagh) would have them wait till the next time appointinent for this saving. Such Members might be entrapped by that proposition; but, if toy were, mid voted against the present motion, there was on further use of enquiry—there was as end of all hope of ecommiy and retreucntnent. (Hear.) Lord A. HAMILTON said a hew words in reply, which were wholly multitude in the gallery. .14 rangers were then ordered to wttlidraw• During our eXVlllsitlll trout tile gallery, which was for npwaids of an hour anJ a half, we understand like House divided ou Lord A. Hamilton's motion, when the numbers were— For the motion 177 Against it Majority........ l2 Whilst the division was going on, Lard Castlereagh ad dressed the ministerial members in the lobby, and begged to remind them that a further question remained tor con sideration, and upon which a division might be expected to take place. The iiitended proposition went to impute blame to his Majesty's ministers for filling up the vacancy without previously taking the sense of Parliament upon it. Ou the contrary, in his opinion, it was the business of Goveruntent first to till tip the office. and afterwards stimuli its propriety to the approbation of the House. On our readmission to thy gallery, we found Sir J. NEWPORT addressi►►g the House. He was supporting the follow we. motion, which, during our aliseuckt, was, we understood, proposed by Lord A. Ha. miltun, and Olt which Lind Cvstiereagh halt nio►ed the previous question—namely, " 1114 t it is the opinion of this House that tile vacancy occasioned iii the Scotch Excarquer COllll uy tile resign.hon of Ali. Holm Adams should out have been filled sip uuUl toe report of the com missioners bad been laid uefure the douse and examined." previous question,'• Tom this quesiiui► lie now put," was negatived without a lIIVISIOII, mush ut course Lord A. itsimiton's ion was lost. Air. BROUGHAM wished to know, us another sinceri ty had perhaps by that hair uccurfell, whrther it was to ue immediately tilled tsp, without input'', Luul CAS MERE answered, mat it would be be ✓et...sly to lake care that the public service WAS 1101 kit isispiori.led fur. Nothing would Ito dune except with wal Int.W. ItitOUGHAU said, they had so mach of Scotch atrairs beture thew, that it would tie inorevsary to proceed by steps. lie, therefore, now gave isutar, 111.61 lie would ou Friday, the 26th instant, stimuli' to itie House a motion relative to the tilling up of VilCalleleS 111 toe Scotch Jury Court. SALT.—Mr. BRO3DEN moved tin an ACCOIIIIi Of Salt of all kinds, omit for agriculttir.il purposes, in the years 1818 und 1819. Oi obtained leave to bri.i.• in a Bill to secure the property or suitors in the Cutirt The cutlers of the day being di, osed or, the House adjourned at a quarter before one o'clock. Several Petitions were presented praying tor itgricul tura! relief. A new Writ was oi derail for Athlone, in the room of Mr. who had accepted the office ut . L.clieater ut .0 leStcr. The Stage Coach Regulation ing too ions driviug noi6demeamoor, was read a third time unit passed. BROGOEN, pursuant to resolutions of a Commit tee, moved for leave to firing no a Bill to precut the It et . iving of fres uy the officers of Customs, Lea" girth. COMMERCIAL PEI ITiON.—Mr. FINLAY presented a Petition from the 0141111/er of Commerce, Glasgow, pray mg for 4 reaurval of the Restrictions on Trade; a WAS e..iiiiir to the Luoidooi Petition presented a few days ago by Mr. Barnig. 1114 Peilitun was brought up, read, and ordered to lie Oil the table. Curtm lilto/30HA NI presented a Petition front ccrtaiu laud occupiers iu Susses, praying fur a repeat ~~