The Statesman. — London, England, 1815-01-21 00:00:00

r F f. 141 ~R Q. Whet force would hare been necessary to de fend the Col de !Wagner, supposing Marshal iiuchet to have been in full march, to compel the British army to raise the siege of Tarragona ?-4. As I, have not considered this question, I must beg leave to de cline answering. Q. Would not a considerable force have been ne cessary Considering the situation of Vandilos, and the roads which run through it, I conceive it must• have required a considerable force. Vandilos is situated in a valley, and the road is so bad as to make it impracticable to carry cannon, and in fact tlie French brought none. Q. Are there not other roads from that part of the country down to the plain of the Ebro, and the plain of Tarragoua ?—A. I know bat of three roads trom Tortosa to the plain of the Ebro, on which cannon can be brought, viz, that by Wagner, that by Mont Blanc, and that by Vandilos. Q. If there are no other roads within your know ledge, would it not have been necessary to secure these by detachments ? -A. Certainly, if troops had been moving on them, but of this I had never heard. Q. Would Marshal Suchet hare required cabnon, coming with a force from the westward, to enable him to raise a siege, maintained by 1900 men ?—A. If the force alluded to is the 12,000 men of which his army bas been supposed to consist, certainly net, as he would be then able to take the batteries hs re verse. , Q. What force would hove been requisite to geoid the pass from Mont Blanc to tbe plains of Tarragona ?—A. There are two pastes, but I do snot know what number of nien might bi necessary, 14 I never visited them but through curiosity. Q. After deducting the MX) men that bethought sulikkot to continue the siege of Tarragona,*and the number that would be necessary to observe the dif ferent roads by which Sachet might have advanced, what proportion of the whole British army could Net been sent forward against 8,000 French ad vancing from Villafrancal—A. It was impossible for him to say. Sr .1. Murray then stated, that it was a very im iterbuit question fdr him to ascertain. As General Mackenzie had before stated, that there would have been a probability of brilliant success against the enemy, he wished to know the grounds on which Hsi, opinion was foended. It did•lppear to him that he had expressed this opinion rather unguardedly. • The witness said, that he had not considered what number of men ought to have been left on those roads to watch an enemy, as he had not heard of the enemy ha►i u g then a single man on any of the roads alluded to . Q. Would it not have been in the power of Ge nese' Decaen to have given or declined a battle u he thought proper, if he had found the Allies in po.! sition at Torte de Barra ?—A. lie certainly might , have returned either by the road he came, or by another. • Q. Do you recollect being on the 12th at the quarters Of Sir J. Murray, with Colonel Adana,' , Gen. Donlan, and Col. Thackery, and eau you state that passed there ?—A. Ile recollected being there ith the officers named. It_ was proposed that they should joindy state to Sir J. Murray their opinion, that a seetleseful Mb& trig** ile seed* sus. Lieseeesi Ilecaen's divikion. Colonel Adams stated this opi nion le Sir J. Murray, and he also expressed his opi nion to the same effect. To the best of his recollec tion Sir J. Musgay gave no other answer than " it will not do." Q. Did not Sir J. Murray state any reason for not approving of it ?—A. I think not ; the conversation lasted for a very short time. Q. Do you recollect that Sir John Murray showed you at that time a passage in his instructions from Lord IVellinaton ?—A. lle did not recollect that he did so at that time, bat he had dons so at other times. Q. Did the witness recollect his concluding the conversation with an observation that this is un answerable ?—He did not recollect it, bat should not be surprised if he had said so upon Sir John Mur ray's repeatedly saying, it will sot do, it will not do. Ite•toonbteid by .Adoolroi He was net acquainted ssisciesstly with the history of the campaign in Catalonia before the arrive) of the British, to know whether the blockade of Balaguer bad been raised or not by the arrive, of the French (roe Barcelona. lie considered, however, that the force of General Copons consisted of 8,000 men, who wire among the best troops of. Spain. if Ge. mere! Sir J. Murray had expected the arrival of a French division on the 14th, or 15th, at Vandilos (a lung day's march from Tarragona), he did not con ceive that this would justify the retreat its the man. tsar it was conducted. On the 15th he was in the twighboui hoed of Vouching, when Sir J. Murray in formed him, that the French lied between 3 and E,oc,) men. It was .on that .lay intended that he should attack the French who were in the valley, with a division of 1,600 men, British troops or trooprrin British pay. 'lbis force not being conceiv ed sufficieitt, it was intended that a regiment of illatligh_ co/cask/es, 1,000 strong,. and tho-grosta tliers,of O'Reilly, were, to. join him in an attack to be made on the morning of the 16th. He certainly *Mitt not suppose that Sir J. Murray believed that the Freocitagnouuted to 5 or 6,600 men, when upon the 15tii, he conceiced 1,600 British troops sullicient to drive them out of the valley. He did set conceive, that if it was perfectly known that 5 or 6,000 French would be at Vandilos ou the 15th, that this would be a sufficient cause for raising the siege on the 12th it the meaner it wes raised. As General Copons was to a strong position at Torre de Barra, he thought it not necessary to have sent the whole of the Allied Army (with the exception of 1900 men) against General Deceit:. The more troops, how ever, which were sent, the greater would be the probability of success. In answer to some questions pet by the Court, thj witness stated, that from Tortosa to Tarragona, by lidleguer, world be a march of two days and a half, or mere probably three days. The march by Mont Blanc would bare taken up Asper days. The other road might have been three days march, bet was impracticable for cameo. Admiral Hallowell this produced a paper, being a return of the actual number of the troops, as gives him by the Deputy Adjutant-Goma! Lord William THE STATESMAN; .....m. This paper was not received, as the Adjutant-Ge- from Vienna and Ste Petembergh, and even by the order to perceive if the statements herein made will nen! himself was to be examined as a witnees, and alarms of the Posen himself, . as the object of warrant any hypothesis regarding the effect of a and. as the Court ex P ectell an account of the acteal tram- unprovoked attack. In fact \ the fetters frost den sto pp a g e of the p orts of the Baltic, for we mus t ben of the Impel obe laid before them in a more - par. look at Poland first : and in this said volume, regelar way. Russia assure us, that the measures which are Colonel Lord F. bentinek seas next examined and suing in all the departments of government there, which has already furnished some points for sultrier!. sworn, leave little doubt that the flames of war will be i version to us, and will doubtless afford more s p e edily I lie commanded the brigade of cavalry before Tar- speedily rekindled. The Marge purchases which to the assembled Representatives of the nation, and ragona, consisting of about 4 or 600 men. About h ave b een ma d e o f b u lli o n an d silver coin for the' the British public at large, we find !flea said on th e nine or ten in the morning of the 11th, he received use of the S tate, • which have Mised specie • 10 I, particular of our importations of core from Poland, the orders of Sir J. Murray to march to Altafulla. and and other ports of the Baltic belonging to Runia per cent. could only be required, Sir John arrived at his quarters in the course of the and Prussia. The drift of the assertions on this day, and he then asked the General whether ha had it w as thought, for the payment of troops ; and Turkey was very received any intelligence respecting the enemy ? Ile generally believed to be the intended theatre of war. point is to show, how much, in the present state s e answered that he had not. He (lieu asked him whe-• If this is not the object, it follows t h at t h e id ea h e ld 1 our agriculture, mid in all cases of scarcity, we era Cher it was necessary for him to arse any extraor- out o f i nva di ng t h e d om i n i ons o f th e GLAND SEIG t at the mercy of the States bordering on the Balti c .— dinary precautions or vigilance in the course of the night, and was answered that it was not necessary. subject to a considerable duty. The truth is, it is mon is a mere ruse de guerre s and that the war. i Wheat imported from the Baltic, the Report says, is About two or three o'clock in the morning of the like preparations on the part of Russia must have , only when there is a scarcity in this country that the 12tb, he received an order to return to the camp be the attainment of European objects in view. Is net foreTarragona. About four the brigade began its ; the prospect of the annexation of such a vast empire King of PRUSSIA, or or any other Power borde r i ng - march, but he himself staid behind till about seven, as T ur k e y to endeavour to obtain information respecting the to another still more enormous, and be. onreap any benefit by imposin g suc h the Baltic, can ' coming more so everyday by the forcible acquisition duties; es when we do not went her corn they h are enemy. H of e • could not, however, learn, that they J whole kingdoms , suffi ci ent - • .ent to alarm the Congress scarcely any market for it. But there is no &Mit had advanced beyond Villafmoce. He returned to herd-quarter between 11 and 12 o'clock. He then .at Vienna, and make, in particular, Austria tremble they know bow to take advantage of our neeessiti n . found that about belt of his brigade of cavalry had for her existence as -a State? Yet the Congress of Vi- They have convinced us of this too.often. They ge been embarked, and that orders bad been given for enna is to step indifferently over all these consider- nerally levy duties high enough, when they know spiking the gene' No question was asked bias 45 to aliens to some minor and distant objects in Asia or we must either pay them or starve. This it' He - Abe information he received respecting the enemy. ' Africa , per haps the pirates , or the conversion of situation, and the good-will which these ge a ' lHe beard Sir J. Murray say, that he had not glues j r , the GRAND M OGUL, by Some " moral influence." , Attie.' of ours show to us, when farntqllt:4l orders for spiking the guns. General Donkin afeme.l lwards ordered him to go with the remainder of his the Courier will my, it is useless arguing against ' menacing us. The effect upon our con brigade to Balaguer, and said that some infantry I these great designs on the part of Aeaxartuest; 44 can by a war with them, and scarcity at the mime should be sent with him. General Donlan also told ,we prevent them ? Aggrandise Prussia." Nonsense I times . may easily be imagined. We Valk with him that it was probable that he would be attacked , This Council of wise men and sworn friends have . reference to the article of subsistence alone. It on his march to Bstaguer, and that the army would got into a pretty dilemma. The German Dramas , cannot be concealed that our internal 141100reill have be. attacked on the beach about five o'clock in the 4 where the parties vow eternal friendship one moment, ' been dissipated. Wears like the - debilitated mor t a l % evening. He marched to Balaguer, but no infantry . accompanied him, nor did he see any following him. j sad separate, vowing vengeance the next, is now i whose constitutions have been so deeply invaded bk When be was at Altafulla, he did not know where acting on a grand scale. " A combination may disease, and the still mere destralaivii arts of dm! Gen. Copons was; but about the time Sir J. Murray el i axon," re-echoes the Times, " speaks volbe necessary," says the Couricr. " This adinis— domestic quacks, that they cantle* Met witheet al left the town, about 100 Spanish cavalry enter omes 1 tificial aid: we are are noveceigisiied to laic aloe* r that he conceived to be an escort either accompany- . - as to our future policy ; but it says little hi 1 " esetegailiee• - • - in; that General, or some other Spanish General of high rank. favour of our past energy, and still less of our, It is well known that, as h commercial conntry t Cross-examined by Sir J. Murray. much vaunted influence." It does intim!. And 1 our prosperity depends chiefly upon our exports. 1$ lie did not conceive at the time that Sir John what must be the degree of erroneous policy, the iis also known that our merchants melt ham retains told him that he need not use any extraordinary pre- otter Want of every indispenaible qualification to sup-for those things they export to f or eig n coun t r i es , cautions, that this communication was made in con., Por t the honour and the interests of Great Britain import at lor they must cease to export theta. To imp o sequence of the situation of General Copes' army - I • borne and abroad, pervading the Councils of thisl tin return sock articles as we ourselves an apply, in his front, but he supposed it to have rather/Amen from no enemy having been heard in that direction. Empire, when such admissions are made by the would be ruinous and unneoesaary,• lad mast operate The communication which General Deakin made' venal tools of our Government ? I to stimulate the Industry of the nations wars." w ith to him about the probability of his being attackedi I t i s now b ut t oo certains whether this famous Ito similar rivalry. Our obvious iisteres4 therefor*, on his march to Balsgoer, and the army being at- to preserve, if possible, relations of amity with Congress which was to do so much, has broken up : is s tacked on the beach at five o'clock, he conceived to , 2 be merely the opinion of Gen. Deakin, and never on-' in ill blood, or not ; whether they shall 64 meet : those extensive countries which most desire out commerce, and - to take their produce in return., derstood it as official information coming from Sr J. i again in thunder, lightning, or in rain," that it has Murray. come to no satisfactory conclusion ; that the caul- From Germany and the countries bordering on Me The examination of this witness being close& dron into which the political erizzards have been Baltic, a principal article of export is corn. Hence Admiral Hallowell proposed to call Capt. Ingleby throwin g thei r potent spells has given birth to no we are made more to depend on the grain exporting again, to put a few questions to him. countries ; and if the fruitful districts of Poland an. The JUDGE-ADVOCATE informed him I. goo d omen, for HECATE has been in the midst , and • , that, ile sew i Saxony are no longer to have a particle of indoors., had already examined him, he must state to the ambition has been standing by. , pendence remaining—if the prayer .of the Cara :. Court what questions he now wished to ask lim„es It will now be asked, if the final adjustment of is to be granted, and Prussia, which Is aiming also it was for the Court to say irktbii St Aft* hiaiiia oaks is *be put.off from this year the eat, and • 1 examined. 7 7 - - at being a great maritime state, capable of rivalling *desired Hottomou the. a i med u rsiiiiissi A at tires Congress to Congress, are we to continue to us, is to have the protection of , Great as it wanted but a few minutes of three, the Court P , 'ire piper as we ire aOlng? Wirtuipett Lord -. . ' • Britain may well be Interested in the -ag gmudise adjourned till to-morrow. Lrvearoos. with eves the help of his discreet The in terests . smuts now carrying into effect. roe interests of r _ 1 .-- - i friend, Mr. GLADSTOWE I of PrepopikTax loving A rr. Kalb. 0 0 O O . Holland FRICK OF STOCKS Tlllll DAT A? ONE 0"01.114311 Suet 260 lan& Asa 16 7-1 I per l4nt. Red. 66 51 11661 Sods 90 19 64 p 9 per Cent. Cam 651 i Rem limner 110 h 3 6 p 4 psi Cents. 83 Orin. 41 d 5 per Cent. Navy 941 Carob fir M= 66; 4 THE STATESMAN. LONDON: SATURDAY, JANUARY 21, 1/1115., We have still nothing bet ransom sod *Ogee statements to present to oar Readers on the splint of the Congress. From the circumstance of Alt. Susw, the King's Messenger, having been sent off yesterday with dispatches to Lord Caercantao*, 46 at Vienna," it is inferred his Lordship is*** yet taken his departure from the Austrian capital, though it is admitted he must be home by the apes► ing of Parliament, war or not war. We koow till Ministers bare been down at Brighten to deliberate with the Patrice, on the last " important" commv nicntions from our Negociator ; and it is probable his Lordship only waits for a reply to enable him to give in his ultimatum. Be this as it may, consider: Atte importance is attached to the dlspatchea now oil their way to his Lordship. It was stated this moralism on the authority ot private letters from Vienna, that, though at the date, celebrity at Liverpool, will not be te reconcile the people of this country to disburse' lllay years longer in the good natured way thq bale dons, in elder that Lord CASTLERZACIPIL add bleiletirmay make "attitudes" for the edification et the - Continent, whilst the great Powers (our Allies too) pass - by them to their objects, without saying so mush as "by your leave !►► When this is the ease, we hunsbly sp. prehend it is high time for any Representative of Great Britain, if it means to retain that name, to re torn home, whether he be wanted in Parliament to support the renewal of the Property Tax or not. A question will naturally arise in the mind of many on bearing of the disputes about Saxony and Poland, end the decisive step said to have been taken by the British Minister at the Congress in regard to these points, whether or not the granting or resist ing the demands of Russia and Prussia in the parti cntarssalluded to is likely to affect the internal con cerns of this country—whether the price of bread is likely to be raised or lowered by Russia getting Po. land, or Prussia Saxony—and whether it is really worth our while to go to war with these Powers in order to prevent them accomplishing their desires?— Nobody needs be told that one of the effects of war is to make corn and provisions scarce ; and that scarcity visually makes bread dear; Ergo, it is pro►ed by this and ten thousand other circumstances that a state of warfare has not naturally the effect of making the es wential articles of subsistence cheap, therefore such a state is not to be courted by those who have more desire for food than glory. Bet new, they say, having heard enough about these countries will be to keep us continually in a Fickle, in order to have the opportunity of sigeeeziug us the more. Re say not this for the purpose of aidiccillhbers. Terted assertion above alluded to in art ibia. Corn Committee, but to show thenecusit torment studying the real interests u mikes ilte indisputable honour of the with*. Of what sawn.. would the boasted privilegei of Britons be if' Whit Government were to make laws by which they wet* to be deprived of the prospect of comfortable air sistence. Their labours would become worthless, like those of the slaves in the countries where bar. barism still reigns, and the revenue would derive little support from them. The real honour of the empire will be best supported by as attention to the means which secure its independence. Why Is it that the laws for regelating the•comasetve et Cern have not had a sufficient foresight before new Why, when Government bad to purchase the arti cles of subsistence so largely and at a mach higher price, was it not conceived :mammy to adopt some plan for procuring the necessary supplies at la rea sonable rate, and yet allowing the fanner a Mr profit? Had this been dose, had legislative interfer ence with the commerce of grain been made wen it was more necessary than it is now, how enormous would have been the difference in the expences of the late war ! It is not, perhaps, too much A0,184,,,tbat the expences of the war were doubled by want of due care in this respect,• and hundreds of millions added thereby to the National Debt. Whilst we are on this subject we will say that whether Ministers have bungled oar business abroad . . of these letters, which is not given, the Congress l honour and justice, and political balances and neces. had not broken up, " it will be obliged to separate sities, we come to enquire what relation do the two without having perfected any final arrangements."— points in question bear to this country, to warrant " This separation," it is said, gg will be with no view t our concerning ourselves about them, either in peace I to future hostilities, but to re-assemble and form a lor war? The Courier bawls oat lustily for Prussia grand European Convention for the organization of 'getting ail she wants, yet tells us there is nothing in twetve States, in which not only the entire territory ktbe dispute that we need care much_about.—A proof of Europe, but part of Asia and Africa will be in- [litre are persons to whom some information on this chided; this has no reference to the supposed de-;subject may be useful. Now that Lord CASTLEREAGH signs of Russia on the dominions of the Gamm boo given evidence he thinks the conservation of the Smarm's." :Sason and Polish territory important to us, setting Part of Asia and Africa to be included in the or• aside the Court cant about the preservation of dig , ganisation, yet the designs which Russia is knows nity, and so forth, in what does this importance to have en Turkey to be overlooked ? Impossible! consist ? is it not for some such enterprise as Russia bas long As that subject, which comes home to the bus'. meditated in Turkey that she has been endeavouring Woes and bosoms of all has been connected with the to strengthen her hands still more by the ad. territorial points mentioned, we open that volume, dition of Poland to her dominion? The Poles littety put forth from authority, styled the Report of baseball called to arms under the Muscovitestandard, the' Select Ceostitts• *PiMbilal by Parliament to and Turkey is pointed out by the concurrent hints bear evitimmo on the mato of the Corn Trade, in or not, the people of this ieuutry have new a right to expect cheap provisions. If they have miscon ducted our affairs, the blame be on their own heads, The nation can no longer, without - complaint and without an effort to escape from the evil, continue a prey to the scorpion that is devouring its vitalQ. The sweat of the labourer has been long enough weighed to a nicety, in order to ascertain what he can bear. It is now high time to ascertain what other classes, far more able, can bear, or bear to reduce of those rents which have occasioned such an impoverish ment of the Inferior orders. Wedo not contencrthat act landed interest ought to bear all the burden ; bet, Iti they have been enriched by the high price of provisions more than any other class of the community, they surely ought to bear as great a share in lowering the price of provisions as others bear. Mr. Got:Lava*, Mr. .A yrs, the King's Messenger, and the whole of she Commissioners suite at ChM ; arrived in town from thence a few days slam I • , . , 4 i • .