The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-05-13 00:00:00

try. They occupied a greater part of the Ka/Idoor, yet t- , ey were finally extirpated. The partial success of the French, therefore, did not in the least diminish the be• bef of all who were arqnainted with the character oldie Spaniards, that they would finally triumph. It was stated as matter of satisfaction that Brest Britain had dissipated the union of the Sovereigns. Better, would it have been for that counter, that she hail been overrun by the ar t' ies of fon; or five Power'', than by the army of that So• vereign, whose success, from the relative position of his dominion.' to the contpacred kingdom, was best calculated to create general alarm. The boast of the Noble Lord as to the result of this triumph, reminded hini of an ab surd story which lie had once read. A Frenchman, be , iog very much indisposed, sent for a physician, who, upon inquiring into his. case, directed that he should take forty pills. Forty pills, said another of the faculty who had subsequently naffed in, I have directed him to take only five, and they have been sufficient to send him out of the world. If they were so efficient, continued he, what would have been the effect of forty ? Why, replied the first physician, they could only have done the work of the five pills, they could do no more; the patient could but die.— (A laugb.)—ln the same way did the Mi nisters of Great Britain take credit to themselves for the accomplishment of a prodigious work. Only think, said they, if one Power has been so implacable against Spain, what would have been the effect of a joint declaration against - her ? What could it do more than had been done ? But whatever might have been the length to which the British Ministers had succeeded in disunit ing the opponeats of Spanish liberty, it was still certain that the sentiments of the assembled Monarchs were in unison upon that question. The Holy Alliance had de clared that they made common cause against the Consti tution of Spain. This they bail declared, and their sen titreats were but too emphatically expressed to permit at.y roan to hesitate a moment as to the fact. It was true that the policy upon which the Allies had act their approval, talirlt n quire the strongest resistance on their part to the spirit which manifested itself In Spain. But England bad no interest in opposing the progress of the democratic sprit . Tim inure demo.-ratic Spain was, the more clo , eiy was she disposed to connect herself io al legi.:nce with England. It was, therefore, the interest of this coot .re to encourage the establishment or the conduct of a •Ilemocratic Constitution in Spain. But much as lie disapproved of England towards Spain, he wished to declare still more strongly against the line of policy which she adopted towards Portugal. Was it the part of a superior state? Was it the conduct dictated by a consciousness of dignity, that England should say to Portugal —" It is true we are hound to assist yon in your defensive operations, but remember, though it may be snore advantageous—more o ise—more political in /on to mako war amongst the Pyrenees than upon the Tagus, vet if y on chose this course, we will not go with you."— Was this the spirit of treaties ?- Was this friendship? Was it by a literal interpretation of our pledges, that we were to :he.iter wroth es from the obligations by which we were hound to Portugal? Rather than do an act so con trary to the spirit of our promise, he woeld have broken the treaty at once. But he wished to know from the Noble Lord if it were in proof, that the insurrections of w hie h they had heard so much were fomented by French egency, avoold not that fart bring the case of Portugal as-isting Spain within the circumstances of the treaty ? If Amirante was joined by French detachments in the pay of France, was not the war so carried on such as of vecessitv to call en us to render assistance to our Ally? It was the favourite - concleision to which the Noble Lords 1)1pOSIN . were - wont to drive this question—" Are you w peace or for war ?" He would say plainly and simply, rather than see Spain subjugated by France he would go var—erather than see Spain reduced to the dominion of the old fanaticism, he would go to war.— le would ask, would we not go to war if France co , qw-red Spain ? Would we have no regard for the saf ty of Ireland ? Would the coast of that country be in a elite of security? He thought that the honour and dignity of Ibis conntry required that not only we should be no party to the aggression on Spain,. but that we should have been no party to a Congress where such an aggression had been meditated. Lard ELLENBOHOUHH considered that the con- duct of Members of the Holy Alliance indicated clearly," aystematic design to pat down the liberties of eou‘titational etates. Their policy in different states of Eorope exhibited this in a manner that left not a shadow of doubtupontbe point, and he only wondered that the Noble Lords opposite, agreeing as they did with his Noble Friend in the premises, should have failed to arrive at the same conclusions. He did not consider the aggres sions of France on Spain in the limited view in which it bad been-.eitertained by the Noble Earl opposite. He belicred that this war arose out of a spirit of aggrandize ment, :.0 i With a view to replace Spain under the super tten,ievce which France formerly possessed over it. But whatever was found at last to be the true character of this *Th . & the question now was, had Ministers done all that laTin their power to prevent it. It was rot within the competency of Eng Lind to send military assistance to Sp iiti,.but all who knew any thing of the recent histo ries of the two countries must perfectly well understand the extent to which a squadron on the coast of Spain might attail that State. The three great points on the coast,of Spain, where the access of British ships might sort conveniently, and advantageously with regard to Spain.. here been maintained, were now in the possession of the Constitutional troops. Their Lordships might de pend on.it that the case of Spain only was not at issue.— France was lint the executive arm employed on the part ufa mighty Power, which entertained a hatred against freedom—which had pledged itself to the destruction of -the free principle wherever it could be found, and which ofeonrse, regarded England as the offender that de served the largest measure of chastisement. He then protested against the neutral line pursued on the part of this country, as contrary to her honour, and dignity, and interests, as calculated to give assurance and strength to the mischievous party in the struggle Tor' demi- Mon which was now maintained by the spirit of abso lute despotism. • • Lard CALTHORPE was still of of oploion that his Majeitfs Ouverninent had mistaken their way altogether thronghont these negociations. It did not appear to have occurred to them originally that it was a question of peace or war between France and Spetin. On the contrary, be belieeed them 'crime felt the.utimuit surprise at those feelings . which manifested themselves on the meeting of Parliament: - That surprise, he believed, was inceessed by the ettraordinary speeth of the French Minister, until the receipt of which their delusion eontioneti. With re gard. so their desire fir preserving peace,, be himself en tertained no doubt; but as to the line. of policy sihich they had adopted with that view,- be could not regard it with all• the appreation which lie shouhlotherwise hive been•happy to bestow. A firmer tune of remonstrance,. without appearing arrogant, or wsauling any superiority, might tare 'made a deeper impression on h'rance, and woeld ba,,e enabled us to express our ,sympathy for the infest liberties of Epsin. We shonld.at once have. inti. mated that we took a strong interest in the fortunes of the *sahib people, and could behold no p rrtof the Peoin solar territory vio'ated with indifference. That sneitlan-, gastewoulii . bare had its due effect too the PrentEr:Conn. ells be Was persuaded; for, on. the closest exatntrationifist be noiffillflo to these piper*, he could •discosei. an set., tied -purpose's the Preach .Ministry ;'all and kr staspeMd fear ratherthae ambition to tare iieeh tire previdaeog motive eittrthent at last: I tAight seem a Mak strange and eostradittory to rush into a ,mor from ti fitikresieefleari bet arc •pecidiat filltelhfir of the Itopakfisiniir in Pronee wouldvicpiale it.- In paint nf: V" M I he mogined that *vulpine famiy was. ex • THE STATESMAN. . . posed to far more serious risk by the movie which had been actually pursued. The war of aggression into which they bad been conducted, was a war partaking of the worst designs of that imperial and warlike usurp'er who had been dethroned by the confederated force of Europe. without being likely to produce for or reflect on /trance any of that military glory with which she before abound ed. In thus expressirg himself, however, he wished to be understood as uninfluenced by any animosity against his Majesty's Ministers, and as not animadverting upon their conduct in any spirit of censure. Hut, adverting to those impolitic engagements with foreign States, into which the country had been hurried of late years, and to ' , the frequency . with which a late Noble Secretary was obliged to remind foreign Governmen's, with less happy or national systems than ourselves, that we were obliged to act within certain limits and under particular re straints, surely they must acknowledge that we had a direct interest in promoting the liberties of Spain, as well as our old Ally, Portugal.—(Near, hear, hear.) Feeling, as we did, that it was to our own free Constitu tion that we were indebted fur-our moral ascendancy, as I well as for the greater part of our physical strength— (hear, hear),—we must admit that, until similar princi ples should be propagat-d elsewhere, the natives of Eu rope must still remain subject to a recurrence of the same evils.—(Hear.) The motion was then put and negatived without a divi sion, when the other Orders of the Day being disposed of,.the House adjourned at half-past Teo o'clock till to morrow (this day.) GENERAL. TURNPIKE ACT. MARERLY brought up a Petition of indiOidlials con cerned in the earriage of materials against certain prnt aloes of the General Turnpike Act, restive to the us , of the weighing mechlee, mid praying for a hearing before the Committee.—Referred to the Committee on the Bill now In the House, with leave to bring evidence.—Laid on the table. Mr. Secretary CANNING presented certain Papers re spectiog the Slave Trade. Mr. 110BHOUSE said, he waited to take the present opportunity of putting one or too questions to the Right lion. Gentleman. A friend of his, an officer in the Navy, had, by his advice, obtained one of the Right lion. Gentleman's passports to proceed to Corfa, hut on , his arrival at Rome, he fonnd, to his great surprise. that the Neapolitan Ministerretused to rise it for Naples; in consequence of which he was obliged to go by Anco na. The ittntleman to whom he alluded teas Lieut. anti he now desired to know horn the Right Honourable tientlem to if he had taken any steps in con sequence of the transaction. The Neapolitan ,Minister could assign no reason whatever for refusing to rice the passport. There was another circumstance which he. also wished to mention. It appeared to him, shat since the commencement of the war, sufficient protection was not afforded to commercial correspondence. An ling lisp commercial house, found on a recent occasion, that instead of receiving the communication which they ex -pected from their correspondent at Seville, proclamations from the Trappist and the Duke d'An.touleui.t come in closed to them.—(.A laugh.) It was the house of Bow ring to which he alluded, and the same might probably have been enough to suggest to the French 6uvernment conduct so reprehensible. The Proclamations were sent from Vittoria. Mr. Secretary CANNING said that, with respect t the first point respecting Mr. Hlagniere, he hail heard from that lientleman himself that the Neapolitan Minister re fused to vise the passport, though he (Mr. Canning' could not say why; but be had, however, directed an in-) quirt' to be made into the transaction. With respect to the other point noticed by the Hon. Member, he was only surprised that c tttttt nercial correspondence expe rienced so lit!le interruption, in a country in a state of war, where there were guerrillas and rubbers continually wandering about. He did not know bow the lion. 31ember able to a4rectain that the Proclamations bad come instead of any thing else. Mr. HOBHOUSE said that the superscription of the envelope was in the hand-writing of Mr. 800 ring's Cur respondent at Seville, but that nothing had come inside except the Proclamations. H Mr. Secretary 'CANNING said - it was not Mammal, when such Proclamations appeared, for correspondents to transmit thew. Bere the gone tion dropped. Lord G. SOM ERSE l' presented a petition from the Bankers and Traders of Monmouth against the Insolvent Debtors' Act.—Laid on the table. FOREIGN CONSIGNMENTS. Mr. J. SMITH presented a petition from certain Bankers and Merchants of the City of London, com plaining of being exposed to risk in making consign ments to Foreign Agents, and praying that the Law on the subject might he alt-red. Mr. SCARLETT vindicated the law as it now stood, contending that it was far less severe than th it which prevailed in France, and other COM inercial countries. Mr. BARINU said that there was some defect in the law which required amendment. Mr. HUSKISSON slid that he hal a petition to pre sent that night, praying for the sane object, and stating the inconvenience of the present Law, as it affected Bankers and Brokers. He a4tproved of the proposal to go into a Committee, to ascertain what hardships did exist. The Judges on the Bench, in giving judgment in those cases, were obliged to admit there were some hardships. It would be the duty of the House to see if, they could not mitigate the ities of the lisig k ejaowt. violating. the principle, by which the factor was not to exceed the authority of his principal. He trusted the Committee ivotild have the benefit of the assistance of the Members of the Learned Profession. After a few words from Mr. Scarlett, Mr. Ricardo, Mr. J. Martin, and Mr. J. Sm i th, the petition was read and ordered to be printed. Mr. J, SMITH g ave notice that lie would to-morrow move th it the petition be referred to a Committee. Mr. CAWTHORN presented a petition from the Mer chants and Ship Owners of the town of Lancaster, against the equalization of the duty on Sugar.—Laid on the table. _ Sir T. LETHBRIDGE presented a petition from the Butchers of Leadenhall market, complaining of the great glut of foreign tallow in the market, to the great prejudice of the petitioners and of the agricultural in terests. The prayer of the petition was for an increase of duty on imported tallow, and he hoped it was in the *contemplation of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to mike an alteration hi the law to that effect. Mr. HUSKISSON said he was sorry that the Chan cellor of the Exchequer was not then in his place to answer the question of the Hon. Baronet. To himself it did appear that a further duty was a question of finance and not of trade. Mr. HI: ME said he was extremely anxious for the re duction of that and all other taxes, in opposition to the petition, which prayed fur an increase of tax on the people, who were the consumers of the article. He hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be more inclined to reduce than increase the duty. Mr. MONCK said it was not by an increase of taxes that the people could be reconciled to the distress which at present pressed on them. He trusted the Chancellor of the Exchequer would tarn a deaf ear to the petition. Lord AI:LTON said the Honourable Baronet was mistaken in supposing that the butchers of Leadenhall would derive any benefit from the imposition of an addi tional tax. After a few words from Mr. RICARDO and Sir T. LETHBRIDGE, the petition was read and ordered to be printed. Mr. HUSKISSON presented a petition from the Bankets, Brokers, and Merchants of Liverpool, praying for an alteration in the lat►s relating to the principals and factors.—Laid on the table. ai r . P. MOORE presented a petition from the inha bitants of Coventry, praying for the abolition of the Negro Shvery.—Laid on the table. Mr. DENNISON called the attention of the Howe to a petition, which-he •aid he held in his hand, and in the subject matter of which the people of the country were deeply interested. The petition came from a respectable body of brewers of ale and table beer in the county which he ►ead the honour to represent, and referred to the Bill which the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Ex chequer was passing throng% the Howe. The Honour able Member stated that by the old law, the Excise duty paid by the brewers was 2s. per barrel, that from each barrel of malt th•-y were allowed to brew six bar rels of small beer, and bad 1,61. a barrel for it. By the Dill in progress through the House, the Excise duty was to be ss, per barrel, and the brewers were to be allowed to draw give barrels of beer. for which they were to get 275. per barrel. By the new Bin the petitioners said that they would be obliged to raise new buildings two hundred yards from their present concerns. These were only a few of the hardships of those persons who had expended a large capital in their present establishment, and if the Chancellor of the Exchequer was to try an ex periment, u the Right Hoe. tient. professed this Bill to be, he ought not to subject the petitioners to it. 'They prayMhto be beard by Counsel before a Committee it that Dons•. Under the old law' they were subject to a fins of• 2004. for wising their beer, besides dist they tvottld submitito any penalty, even transportation. Th e petitioners recommended to the Chancellor of the Ex chequer to take off the duty on beer altogether, and pt.i it on the malt.--(lietr, hear.) By the present systim the poor paid wliTle the rich were exempt. By puttinZ the old tax on malt, the burden would he eqoalled on all the consumers, and the expense of collecting would he saved to the country. He concluded by moving that the petition he brooght Mr. RICARDO supported the prayer of the petition. Capt., MA BERLY expressed himself as decidedly ad: verse to the provisions of the new Beer Act. Mr. GREY BENNET objected to the system of taxation on Beer altogether. From the manner in which the tax operate.) at present. the poor man was visited with a duty of fifty shillings a quarter on Malt, while tlie rich man had not to pay more than twenty shillings. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER s•ht, that he had, on twiny former oeeasions, replied to the same observations which he then heard. As there were other stages when the If it itself it o,ild Cilllie before the House, he woithl defer any explanat:oa till that timi, a s a discossion on the bringing up a petition o:,ly was pre , mature and unnecessary. Mr. FP 7M H said, th.it the interests of a body of men two had great propery invested, iles-rved more cou.6. titration than it would appear they were likely to re ceive from time provisions of the Rill. Under a different management the ]!alt Tax might be made more produc tive, even to the extent of 230,000/. alear. It was ra ther remarkable, that. notwithstanding the increase of the population, there %ruin, increase in the consomp. tiun of Malt. Ile recommended to the Chancellor of the Exch.•gn►r to refer the Bill to a Com iii'tee up stairs. where all conflicting interests might be heard, and justice be elven to ell the parties. Mr. ILI DLEY UULBO!tNE sripport.d The Bill, and contended that the object of the tharicellOr of the Ex cher-ier was to procure an accommodation to the public, an I not an inc of revenue. Mr. P. PALMER edntended that as the linty being placed upon trislt would enable every man to brew his beer, or to purchase it upon equal WIWI, there was no ground whatever for refusing to make the alt-ration. Mr. MONCK took the some view of the question. Mr. PdAHERLY asked whether the Rig.; lion. Chin. rellor of the Exchequer would allow a Committee to he appointed if be should move It, to take into consideration the propriety of placing the duty on malt instead of beer. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was not prepared to answer iu the allirmativo Mr. MA ItEItLY then glee notice that he should, up on an earrly occasion, 1114V0 for the appointment of a Committee. Mr. BROUGHAM hod to thank his Hon. Friend for the notice he had giren, and to regret that the Right Hon.Oentleman had not consented to an inquiry. Every discussion of this iniquitous tax would be useful, because it would open the eyes of the country to the enorano..s injustice of making the pour man pay a ditty of tiny shillings where the rich man paid only twenty lie was confident that so tryingly iniquitous at tax tonli not long be supported by any Kitts- of Commons. After a few words from Mr. DENNISON and the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQL:Ra. the Petition WAS under.' to he printed.. Mr. FOWELL BUXTON wished to put a qnestion to the lion. Gentleman (Mr. Hoskiason) on a suhjeet of great importance to a large part of the tuannfactnring it (crest,. On their behalf he wished to ask if the II in. Gentleman wool.' consent to refer to a Committee up stairs his profound Bilkrelative to the silk tuinufarthre. If that would no: be granted, lie then would ask fur some delay in tht production of the measure at least till after. the holvdavv. Mr. FIL'i:KISSON suit, that he has had constant communication with p ,rti..s on waose behalf the Holl. 414tlenuan spok.., so that he was fully in possession of their sentineen . s. He could nut consent to refer the subject to a Committee, as he w:,l knew the inquiry would be interminable, and he felt that he should nut consult the interests of the parties, if be kept them in a state of suspense. His intention was to bring in the Bill, and have it re3cl a first time to-morrow, a seectol time on Friday next, and he truul l defer the other st.ages until after the holy bays. A message from the Lords, announced their Lord ships assent to certain Bills; for which see the Lurds Report. Mr. BROUGHAM moved that the Crown Books of Dublin, containing the panels of the Grand Juries, from 180 to 1822, be ordered. On the representation of Mr. PLUNKETT, the no. tice was deferred till to-morrow. _ _ _ Lord FOLKSTONE postponed his motion relative t♦ the equitable adjustment of contract, from Wedoestl is nest to the iitla of June. Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW postponed his motion on the Usury Laws to that day fortnight. IRISH INSURRECTION ACT. Mr..GOULBUIVI said, that when upon a former oc casion he submitted to the House the propriety of ex . - tending in Ireland the provisions of the Insurreclaa Act, he ventured to express a hope that he sh mkt not' again be called on to perform that duty. With the greatest regret he found that hope to have been fall ici one, and that.now the painful ta , k was imposed on him of recommending to the Haase to continue those provi sions, not for the purpose of preventing the recurrence of outrage, butt of resisting an alarming, and in the opi nion of some a formidable insurrection against the laws of the country. He was sorry, also, to have to inform the House, that in particular districts—or rather he should say, it was confined to t ne particular province— that there was the sauna central disposition to outrage, the tame general cotnhina•ion of the peasantry against the property of the country, the same system of illegal oaths and resistance of the laws by the snbs•itution of others, supported by acts of terrible crime, as was mani fested upon former occasions of a similar nature. It was impossible for him to undertake the defence of the law be was about to recommend in the abstract; he did rut stand BIT to represent it as a law conformable to the Constitution. But he was convinced, they would not withhold from the Marquess Wellesley that which be firmly believed,and that which the Noble Marquess him self had shewn, by the documents on the table, to be ne cessary for governing the country under it. unfortunate and peculiar circumstances. It was impossible for any man to look at the daily records of what passed, and Dot be convinced that there was something - 1h the state of the province of Munster, which required extraordinary powers to correct its disorganisation. It was not only that there was a division betwixt the poor and the rich, but that the power of the multitude was Ex, wised in obs ructing the ordinary course of the law. Criminals were protected from justice by the whole population. If information were obtained against any of them, he need not tell the House That when the attempt was made to bring them to trial, the evidence either disappeared, or under the ire Iluence of terror witnesses tefased to come forward. At the lase Assizes at Cork the number of those discharged front the inabil:ty to bring the witnesses beforethe Brand Jury, was almost equal to the number charged tat crimes. In fact, the present rate of the clamory was that of protection. to the wicked and criminal, and op pression to those who observed the law—to all that was loyal,• good, and honourable. Time first object, theriofeff. was to give protection to thut class, and to leave sub• sequent periods the other measures of irnprovemallt . and .amelioration. In other parts of the country the Act had produced the greatest beneSe, by tratuthillialnethe te octal state of society. The House would recollect that io the county of Lionitck, only eightan mobilo ago. HOUSE OF COM MONS—MoNDAT. The SPEAKER was summoned to attend the House of Lords to hear the Royal Assent given by Com mission to certain Bills; for which see the Lords Report. Mr. 'Purvey laid certain papers on the table frun► the Secretary's office in Ireland. AGRICULTURAT. DISTRESS. Mr. LUTTRELL presented a petition from the inha bitants of Minehead, against the duty on coals carried coast-wise.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. JERVlS . presented a petition from the co•inty of Hants, complaining of Agricultural Distress, and pray ing forrelief. Sir T. BARING bore testimony to the respectability of the Meeting, and commented upon the conduct of the Sheriff in refosing t., call a Meeting. . _ Mr. CURWEN said Vila where there was a strong popu lar feeling upon any question, it was the bounden duty of the Sheriff to give the people art opportunity of expressing it. No temporary improvement in the fact of agricultural produre s iould induce the country to give up petitioning for redress. The agriculturist could not be satisfied, as long as the fundholder was exempted from contributing his share to Poors' Rates. Mr. RICARDO said that it would be necessary to review the Corn Laws before any steady price could be effected in agricultural produce. lie thought it would be a great in justice to make the fundholder now pay that which was not contemplated at the time the contract was made. If it were then known that the fundholder would have been liable to these charges, Government would not have obtained• the loans upon such favourable terms. Mr. 0. BENS RT said he could not ngree with those who thought there was any thing satisfactory in the present state of the agricultural interest. Low prices were in his opinion attributable. not as some had supposed to a glut, but to the alteration which had taken place in the currency. It was imputed to them that they wished to defraud the public cre ditor; the imputation lay rather upon those who by main taining a contrary system defrauded the debtor. Pole. MONCK thought the greatest grievance of the coun try was excessive taxation. He could not agree %%Ha the petitioners, that Church property ought to be applied to na tional relief. Mr. PHILLIPS said there could be no effectual ;viler, bat from a reduction of taxation. *_ . _ . Mr: WM ITNIORE said he was anxious to impress upon the House and the country, that no permanent advantage could be derived from high prices, because he was sati,fied that if they rose they would rise only to fall again. lie re. commended most strongly a resiew of the Corn Laws. Sir T. LETIIBRIDtiE said it was originally the inten tion of the Legislature, that the Poor Rates should be borne by all descriptions of property. All property should he subject to the local as well as the general burden of the country. The great objection to our system of taxation, was not so much to the amount as the Unjust end unequitl manner in which it was levied. It was quite impossible to remove the distress without a total revision of our whole system of taxation. .The Petition was then read, and it prayed, amoneother things, that the Church ■nd Crown Lands might be dis posed of, and the produce applied to the relief of distress. Mr. F. PALMER deprecated the conduct of the Sheriff in baring refused to call the meeting. Lord PALMERSTON stated that the Sheriff was influ enced solely by whit he considered to he his duty. The Petition was ordered to lie on the 'table, and to be printed. Mr. JERVIS presented a petition from the Inhabitants of Alton against the duty on coals.—Laid on the table. SLAVE TRADE. Sir A. CAMPBELL presented a petition from certain West India merchants of Glasgow and Greenock against the Emancipation of Slaves in the West Indies, and praying that the question might not now be agitated.—Ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed. Sir J. GRAHAM presented a Petition from the in'''. !Mints of Carlisle, praying for the Abolition of the Slave Trade. Sir ISAAC COFFIN.—We have many Petitions lying on oar table, nine impatient that slavery is not abolished In the West Indies, others recommending a gradual abolition; but I see none proposing a compensation to the proprietors of slaves, or pointing out means for the support of the ne groes when they are emancipated. Every Gentlemen ac quainted with this subject knows not one island in - our pos session in the West Indies could subsist without a supply of provisions from Asia or America, which, it is reasonable to think, they would not coptinue to receive after their liber ation. Now two great evils mny be naturally looked for, If -the prayer of these petitioners is complied with ; the first is, the total destruction of the white people—the second, the gradual extermination of the blacks by famine. The exam ple of St. Domingo bears me out in the first assertion; and the known aversion of the blacks to work in the second. We have had a man in this country, at a County Meeting in Kent, recommending an attack on the funded property; at another, in Norfolk, an abolition of tithes end payment of rents. These bold attempts at pillage are not worse than that which, under the specious pretext of ameliorating the condition of one order of beings, reduced to poverty an• other, who; under the protection of the Legislature, often sanctioned, have made. at the risk of their lives, their este bliebreelia in the West Indies. No man deplores more than I do that a slave should exist in any part of the British do minions; but wa have brought it on ourselves. Besides the diminution of our .siiipping and manufactures, we may shortly 'expect to have a black republic to contend with, and an entire expulsion from those seas. The petitioners, I conceive, are led away by false ideas of humanity, aid whenever the question for the abolition of slavery comes be fore the House, it shalt have my decided negative, conceiv ing the petitioners ate entirely ignorant of the state and con • intim, of the Mervin in our West India Isla/Ids. Mir. CU RWEN supported the petition. • Mr. ALEXANDER BARING said, that the moat serious *consequences might result from the question helog left in it s p re sent state. The House were aware that some time • ago many lives were lost at flarbadoes from an impression that prevailed among the blacks that Mr. Wilherforce in tended to get thein emancipated. "Whatever was to be done. with respect albs oestion. Ought to be done as speedily as possible. • • .1 • • ThsCHANCELLOR of the* EXCHEQUER said, that the delay that hattnen place, wee Only in - consequence of the inquiry that wea_new pending before the House. Mr. F. BUXTON said, he would certainly Mint es his !tition Of the sibjeet on Thornily next. •• An Hon. Member, wished to know Isom Mee r SAS were the Resolutions he intenilefl to propose. Mr. RUXTOViairl Its heirtnei y e t made lIPPOOId on the tothjeet. , • The petition Wt "thin orainid IQ lie on' the Abfi k- . • • F?