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arrived in Fugland, (Hear, bear!) Whether Ilse ad viee,npon which she had acted was good or bad, lie should not now inquire, but he most solemnly assured the House, that any circumstances that had taken place, every 1111. mite detail with respect to the negociations had Oren laid before her Majesty, to establish the conviction of the necessity of inquiry, anti the Queen had looked at them with no other feeling. She might, indeed, as the Noble Lord said, be the first Brunswieker that ever acted in opposition to Parliament, but it was to be recollected, that she wss the first that ever was placed in such a situation. Was she to truck and barter about her Itotiour? A m an could not allow his honour to be compromised, much less could a woman permit any accomitioilatims with respect to her's. (Hear, hear I ) The House were now b Ito look at their state most scrupulously. They were now offended wills the Qiieen,and they we're shortly to become her accusers. He besought them to dismiss every feel ing of offence. (Hear, hear, hear.) Is seemed thal the Noble Lord was to introduce sonic legislative illviDnlre, He thus early laid his Chilli, iii the Hanle of the Queen, to a delay. The Queen was to meet the inquiry, but a delay was necessary. in consequence of the distance of the scene in which the offences were laid. It was three weeks journey, aad witnesses must be found. (Hear, bear ) if the enquiry were to go on at the lime props ed, the Qu.•en must sustain great prejudice, as the evidence ag.tinst her could be before the public eye, while that evideisce which would go to the establisument of Mr innueeuu e would be at the distance of man miles. Its this sta'ement she of coarse did nut iochade the cruse-examivati iiii of oit..esses. and the effect produced by that. He cuircluaed with en treating the House to la% t heir thouzhts to those olnersami o os-, and eongratalotias them ui the chance of an open cavalry. Colonel PALMRR raid, it; as was the case with regard to the Doke of York, the country railed fur inquiry, he would be the first to vote for it, but Sit this case the coati try was against harlotry • and lie should adhere to his deter mination. Mr. WESTERN said he insist resist the motion. and on the ground that the House in common wills the country, had declared that the Inquiry never could tie gone into.— (Loud Cheers.) It bad heels admitted sisal the criminal charge was capable sit adjustment. That was a 14141 ails mission. At ter first, hue could they proceed? ilitherto the 11 . 111111se had proeerfle.l in a compatible .romiser ; sins how were they now placed? They were tool than ought nut to be could nut be gone into; and 111.* t were +-sited Its aver 110 the Motion of the Noll Laid, tibia! was uotiuiuu less than saying that Inquiry augur so be goue into. 'Hear, hear !) It . lie ler.tutid she ste dared senile of Perliameist at all, it had hem) avowe•l that House that the Inquiry was of such a inteure that i• could not ue, that is ought nut to be pi iieeetled ; and yet what was il Ilia/ was DOW asked of thrust It was the very contra ry--( Hear, hear 0 He was therefore ag..iiist the Motion, because it would be 4iviug a ssnetiuss to that Inquiry which all had before declared could not be pm.- sued. He required the House son to owl itself with the Inquiry, whis•li had been cosideoureil. The Noble Lord 1 , had dent 1111 l red his owl' proceeding, and if he wanted any new inquiry, any novel geode of proceeding, let his lord- ship appear with* fresh bag.—(Liteers.)—The opinion oil termer proem/dings had alseady been expressed • and be was against the adjournment must decidedly. He was anxious for the. honour and character of the House, and he therefore moved, us an amendment, that the question he adjourned to this day six mosstlis.—(Cheers.) Mr. S. W HI EH READ took precisely the saute view I that bad been detailed by the Hon. Member who preceded him; he therefore most cordially seconded the inutiois.— (Hear).—lt seemed as if Ministers wished, by indirect means, to get the House to sanction their own iuexplica- Lte Mr. TIF.RNEY observed, that the latter words of the Address—that iyquiry would be alike derogatory to the dignity of the crown and the interests of the people — were the most extraordisiary words ever agreed to by a Minister. Ho was pea reedy astonished when the noble Lord agived to them, and he was now more astonished to hear it contended that the obvious meannig of Ihe words was not the real sense. At the mine time he deemed is right to make some inquiry ioto the meaning of the woids. He had asked whether it was meant that the charges against the Qiseen, if received, were of a derugatoty clia• ratter, or whether an Him. Member's (Mr. Detiman's) observation—beware of recrimination.—.was contemplated by those words. They had then struck him, as they did now, to be worsts of sleep import, but the Noble Lord could not say that his atti•til had not been drawn to them. Thus? words, and tit defied any body to succeed its pouting any oilier meaning upon theta thau they ob viously imported, he deliberately declared, precluded Parliament fr lie adoption of any further proceedings in the way of inquiry. (Hem.) He had given credit to those who suppiirted thus resolution, and he sincerely believed that they voted fur the motion thorned)°, because they thereby isseaut to declare, that, ut their opinion, bled' y, Snell as the :Ministers contemplated, might sieves to he instituted. (Hear) Bid nose-11r these was nu end to the dexterity of the Noble Lord—au effort was to be made to get the other to embark in that busian•as where this House bad refused to act. Ministers adopted all courses to remove responsibility fs om themselvesi—but might the House to pause iii this way? Ought they to agree to change the mode of proceeding, metety as a Wal ter of course, because the Noble Lei d asked it? Our Saturday the Noble Lord was asked what ha intended to do next? An answer was not given, fur the best of all reasons, he believed, because the Noble Los d did not know what answer to give, and now adjournment was asked, as motion fur Thursday se'imight was pi °nosed ; but what that motion was to be, on one had told them ' if any prison knew. lie b e lieved that the Noble Laid himself could not tell thorn what the suution . was to be. but ought they to pluceett in such niaauer?. He thought it Mould be degrading pi °reeding to let the matter thus 1.4,1 ill. Something should be eutered on their Jusienals. Instead of this, they were called to recognize the propriety ol waiting fur the Limits. Thus, as the Noble'Lead slid not know what motion to snake, it was thought total Our Aloud tura deserved assutoer; and as the Lotus nutted catch, (""• them, they Wes e utity to wait week, fist the Lurds.—(Hear, fad raughter.) 10 all tuts they Saw every ctlu, t wade 14/ pwu relpillsollllll, j ut the paper. tiwniselse. It sm.% appeared, had slut Mee lirouidat to support ..thar.,... but to see is teethes a chary could be suppoilled.—(tderviv.)— It had been de ckled that the contemplated anode u 1 4 . irocreiting ..ould nave bloat dos' outrdgeonti to the Queen and an the roman) I and 1111 r all that had roasts', the Noble Lord hisesclieoulpletcly •••+1 - _ ~ --s,b ME NATIONAL REGISTER. changed his opinions and views. He now believed dial they bad been trilled and played with ;—would they endure the cusitinuance of such treatment t After the language of their own resolution, after the vote to which they had come, he thought they could not sanction any votejwhich would tend to support she opinion that they thought enquiry could be pro moted without being derogatory to the Crowu and iiijuriour to the hest iiiterests of the people. Lord N UGEN (.said, if the Ministers were sincere in de precator.; the display of party feeling, they would nt least silence those two London prints which were supposed to be under their peculiar iiidnence. They had uttered libels which deserved to he prosecuted by the Attoruey General. Mr. HOHHOUSE declared it to be his opinion, that it was impossible fur the House to sauct ion that enquiry whit the Ministers had asked of them. The Ministeis themselves were alarmed ■t their own acts—sthey knew not what to do —and it they could but get the Queen oat of the country, not Duty a ship, but a while fleet would be at her service.— (cheers.)—Attu the green bag, however, where seas there safety for the Queen—even fur her life, but in this conntr) After remarks from Mr. Scarlett, Mr. Marryntt, &c. mid oiw• explanatory observatious from Mr. Brougham, about twelve k the (louse divided. The numbers were— Fur the ialginul Motion 195 Fur the Amendment IVO Majority in favour of the 4,4jourument till Friday se'unight 05 The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned. TUESDAY, JUNIS 21. Ali r. atil CODUISIio N.-- Sir It. FERGUSON give notice, that on fluanaluy neat he should submit a mutiou ou the subject of t he aid in Counnisse.u,—(Hear.) Mr. OEN 11 AN prewined a Petition from Mr. R. G. Butt, complaining of hays g bees committed to prison for an alleged liweloto a Magistrate's warrant. Pei it Mil read, and fostered to be primed. The reinaiiiiie.. Older or the Day miring beep disposed of, the Bum,- ititjuuineti. licOhrsDAY, JUNZ 28. Mr. I.Y T l' LE I'ON torinighi up toe Report of the Labour ere Wa,co ,lilt, w filch was rec:tved. read, and agreed to, a te, smug regale) , fr Mr. Baring, as to the limitation of tile 11111, al.. L. amiss erisig tart it airs to continue for three years. Ordered to he read a flood lone on Friday neat. EDUCATION Or The POOK —Mr. IWOUGH A M looped the ;louse would allow him to bring fora and hit motion Os item subject, fur hereafter he should be obliged, as it were, ,o reisre from Polo:wield, as si Hill of great importance was about to he bra fight into the other House, which would ✓equire his COllllllOll attention.—(Hear.)—lie merely meant to iiiii ve for leave to bong to a Bill on the subject ; and to enante whets, who might not be lawyer-, to understand this "itti:*ci, hr should have an abstract of the Bill put into the hands of .Merriest. The subject was of great importance, and would be remembered when the subjects which were 110 W miliapotly engagnig the general attention should be fitt%Jiiteli.—( Hear, hear 1)---fie returned his thanks for the al iention and co-operation which had teen experienced from the Clergy of the Established Church. In one day he had re-rived filoo answer. to ;he amebas of the Education Critunai.tee ; the neat day he received 2600; aud 1111011 after wards nearly all the returia io 11,4470 persins were made.— About Stia answers, sone of the best answers, were min :4W ; but the repeated applis adorn were immediately complied with, only two of them murmured, and those tall also sent back the amplest mistier,. This was most praise-worthy, fur they were co-operating in the promotion of MI great and good object ; and us most of these penman retuning taus veers were the working Clergymen, individuals who had the least profits, the greater merit was disc. He memo 111 l ed these cir cumstances because on it lie built the greater hope of alit , mute success (0 the plan a hich he conteinplated. The digest and tabular reports acre now prepared ; and those enquiries had taken place which Mr. Percival had said slight to pre cede any proposition being made to Parliament. 'I bey had now great light on statistical subjects; and the dm keess whirl, hat heretofore deo acterised such enquiries urns re , nairkubly evident in the works of that lively and 1.1% "Ting I writer, Dr. Colgulioun.—(Hear, hear.)—That writer I . oUllit out tau millions of poor children alas were without the meisiss of ;worming education, and added, that there ought to he a bctiool-room erected its every parish capable of lood lag WO persons, a far greater number of children than acre to be found in any wish. with few esceptious.—The " lower orders" did not amount to any thing like such moo tiers; but using these terms he meant to give no Aimee.— lle would Out abstain from them lb compitinent to those a ho complained of the use of the words, nod the poorer classes ' would be" low" indeed if they followed advice coming from 1 1 such qua. tiers. That was called the " lower" House, to distingunii it from the Peers; and the raw. teams a ere siiii:y to distinguish the poorer who were undoubtedly tee most important classes, looming, in truth, the basic of society.-- ' (Hear, hear.) The formation of iiistitutiosis to promote edaraiiiiii amongs. the pour were of onsierit growth, they had been early introduced into this country• At the time whew Mandeville *rote his •. Fable of the Beers" disloyal ti hoots sere cumplaiiied of ; similar complauits were now urged regoi dist 4 some liChoOlt, patliC11111:ly i hose in Laill'a• Aire • and it was tbeii said, what he would now 1i001( a llele those schools were opea—sv heti you hod them leaching dis • loyalty, shut them up. Ile did not waist to teach the pour Latin, Greek, arr.; he did not wish to take I licia from the plini,lll lied mechames; and he denied that education tended to disqualify men, and to make them uucomfortuble to move in the " lower rooks," using the words to . Gilbert Burns, the brother of the celebrated poet, Burns. Front the Digest and Table it appeared that the weans of education, . in ninny instances, were considerably deficient; the ave rage means of education in England and Wales were as tile.-sixteealli, when it ought to be onedsitith or oile-tenth. And but fur Lancesteriaii and Natiunal Schools the means would be stia less. The means bad considerably in creased since 1803; and yet the power possessed was obly as uise-sixtreu• h. Rehire that period the counts y was 111 it allUell worse comlition—it was as one tar iity -fit st.— Now, iii Scotland, the condition was very dillerent and illUbl favourable; it was as one-ninth. (Year.) In Fiance it was as 011 e twenty-eighth; a statement %%Inch he !winded 011 Ile teriiinoity of Dr. Sigel, Laborde, Ore. ion this was much better than was the case a lew years *lC:ii. 0411 almost a. bad as Middlesex had been, which was Use waist educated of any with which he was acquainted In Chi istentluni. But its Flatlets the eller!, made %vie iiiiiiiiii.e, (01 111 ittl) years upwards of seven (11Unialid trlioolli bad been wised; so that soon there would nut be an uneducated person in France. llu Saitzerlaud great attention was also paid to education, tar these was not one ;micron iu sixty bet what was educated. la thistotia- 1 . • 211 try there were 2,000,000 persons, or one in eveiv tit e • without the means of education; and there were ses ci e t hundred chapeirics, parishes, &c. without any school at all. In Scotland every parish had a school of some sot t most of them endowed. The average of education for England was one-sixteenth ; though for Middlesex it vi as one twenty-fourth. (Hear.) This was a frightful coy sidcratiou, recollecting the importance of this counti (Hear!) The Hon. Member having detailed the leading objects of his proposed Bill with great ability anJ mi nuteness; first, regarding the foundation of Schools ; secondly, the appointment of master. and the removal t f them; thirdly, the admission of scholars; and, fotirtlil,, the making of existin4 euflowmesiis effective ; he cop - eluded with moving for leave to b: ins in a Bill for tl e more effectual regulation of means to educate the pots r classes of society. After some remarks fuom Lord eastlereael, Sir .7. M'lntosti, &c. the motion was agreed to. The lemaitting orders, the firampti:ind Disfranehisi - ment Bill, 6,:e. having been disposed or, the House ae journed. THURSHA V, JUNE 29. MANCHESTER PROCREDINGS.—Sir F. BURDETT again postponed his motion respecting the poneediegs at Manchester. Ms. H. CLIVE brought in a Bill for giving Justices greater power on the River Thames. Lord JOHN RUSSELL Rave notice, that lie should on Thursday 'lest move an address to the Crown to shorten the imprisonment of sir Manasseh Lopez. Mr. CHETWYND rose to move fur leave to bring in a Bill to prevent the private whipping of females, He stated, that the indiction of such punishment in private was even much more objectionable than that of publicly whipping, which was disgusting and barbarous in the extreme. It was his intentiou to extend the operation of the Bill to Lunatic Asylums and Workhouses.—Leave was given, and Mr Chetwyad brought in the Bill, winds was read a first time, and entered to be read a second time on Monday next. IiImLAN Comm isstim.—Sir RONALD FERGUSON said, lie came down with the fell intention of bringing forward his motion respecting the Milan Commission. He was, however, from particular circumstances, and wishing to enlarge his motion, induced to postpone it till Thurs day in the nest week. PAREA. Lord JOHN RUSSELL rose to move for the production of certain Papers relative to Parga.— Ordered. COTTON Waavtne.—Mr. MAXWELL moved for a Select Committee, to ascertain whether any relief could be extended to the Cotton Weavers. He observed, lie should not have considered that he did his ditty, if lie were not to make some effort to direct theSttention of the Uovernment and the House to the distresses of this class of his Majesty's subjects. He wished particularly to en quire respecting the effects prodnced by a machine called the power-loom. He wanted to prevent an undue direc tion of capital in the promotion of machinery. where labour might to be promoted. He concluded with iiiii vine for a Commiitee to ascertain the best means of relieviug the Cotton Weavers. The Hon. F. ROBINSON said, a Committee might be useful to examine and collect facts; but it was not the most convenient mode of examining an abstract idea, on which in truth this motion was founded. He should there fine move the previous question. Mr. MAXWELL replied, after which the motion was withdrawn. The other orders of the Jay being disposed of, the House adjourned. FRIDAY, JUNE 30. The House was summoned to attend the House of Peers to hear the Royal Assent given by Commission to sundry Bills.—(Sce Lords.) PREENIANTLE presented the Report of the Cola chester Election Committee, which declared the last Elec• Lion, as the saute regarded D. W. Harvey, Esq. to be void (an the ground of an imperfect qualification); but that the opposition of the said 1). W. Haste) to the Else tot's Petition WAS not frivolous. A new Writ was then ordered for Colchester, In the room of D. W. Harvey, Esq. Mr. TORTNIAN brought in the Mil to prevent rinskil ful !lessons from acting as Conve)aucers. Read a first time, and ordered to he read it second time on Tuesday. Mr. HYNO presented ■ Petition from the 'Dusters of the Highgate stud Hampstead Roads against the General Turnpike 11111. Read and ordered to be printed. Mr. H. SUMNER also presented a similar petition Pe tition on this subject. observing, that he wished smiwwliac more publicity to be Revell to the measure, he should move to have the Bill printed. M►. D. tilutncr ,poke on the subject, and observed on the importance of the measure. In support of wind, lie said, he quoted the testimony of the Committee's Re port on the subject. He particularly agreed with rho Committee that it was very desirable that the roads round London should be Nit in a better condition beturc the ap proach of another winter. He certainly had no ohp..c lion that the amplest time should be given for the dile cull sideratiusi of the 13111. A Dles•age front the Lords announced, that their Imrd ship% had agreed eu the Diary-time Theativ, and oilier Dins. INCOME. bar THS ROYAL PAISILV.—LortI CASTLG REAtiH presented a Message flout the King. Hi. )Is jesty acquainted the Honse that iitus 'skins wale fur portions of the Royal Family lint! Cl'ilStd upon the de mi•e ul his late Majesty; and his Nlajesty thertlure ive.,iii mended the House to make such Grants, by VA) lit Almon) , ur otherwise, as would woke Yn iivoincs of his royal beothers and sisters equal to what they cojoyell at the demise or the late King. Lord CASTLEREAGH gave notice, that on Monday he shook wove that this Message he taken 'RISK CHANCEIt v.—Ou the motion that the Irish Chan cery Mil tie committed, Sir J. NEWPORT inured, that it he an instruction to the Committer to intioduce a clause to •Itsquality persr.4 holding the other of Masters iu Chancery iu Leland (rota tiding seats in Pat liatuent. Loid CASTLEKEAGH concurred in the principle of this motion, but he was not for making the projec..d clause of ex post t.icto opeiaiion. Sir J. NEWPORT did not see why tl.e e!dese should he sa li m ited, it was maul ens that all liitil% 11 . 0141, lady ciicninstaiteed (Nlr. Ellis, the candid tie tot Dublin) ( For eol4l 7, :taveol tre :!4.) 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