The Statesman. — London, England, 1819-07-27 00:00:00

1 0 1 4 iiirreegmlieut in pordeol4r I'4 such that potienta re. SWIM Sneer , in 11 it then In •rty other at present Jrn-tan. pefttratarly directed their at. feelinn in th• etriingfnu•til% nr oh. school.. Uynn that 'skim- , he could speak with cunfidenre ; he had tried his in now for threw )ears; be had antici• paled ouch from the scheme of placing children en der sock regoiminn. as most lead -heat frith the cer. tain'y I. ti.. potee•alon of eaefol. Orisons, and in. !pet she result had pecaetled his most intro.* •spoctstiono looking at therm now. Itt kat! :al‘pri himself. *hero are the proofs of ustorsi &twilit) in th.‘lo. infants ; there is nothing rOrwretaht• anions thew bat kind looks sod si-ns„ and oho most elVictionste and intelligrut dr. measour —The chiltit en be, prepared for the larger &chard would leant owe in one year than in three Jess soder soy other mode of preparatory training.' Ile had no hesitation in saying, that society cannot I sow form any Idea of whet these children will be at the site of twelve years ; they would, beyond all doubt. prove most unwieldy and useful two. bets et society. As to his plan of mingling gar. Bening ossh edecation, end - progressively increasing Its linpnrisnro in the pursaiis of children, so as by the t t I writ* years to make it engross ill bouts oat a the, envier, it ass well known that gardening was rot only the heal eiopinpaint for vspanding Moth the physiral and mental powers of children, hoe It elan constituted the best pr►paration which ceeld he given to those d.•tined to agricultural ;mueslis was eh •I kind a tinpley omit in which the powers of thitelteee would wryer be pressed nye , mach, stud he had strays bawd thee a variety of employment was wl/.61 to Or developm►nt of physical and mental enerzies in children. As to the militate of trade and ouriceltere, which he proposed for the children of Israser vessel', he was aware that such s proposition would anti/ger the (*airbuses of massy iudsvidaals who were *prisoners adyneales for singleness in the pussies, sad porticoletly in the mammal 'shim of sesakind. Certain he was, however, that a youth, breathe op according to the plan he proposed, would make, upon an average, g much more esprit trades. moo, agriculturist, and gardener, than could be found in any one of these departments by the exist ing triodes of education ; all this he anticipated from the eitcerosslance of giving the infant mind a vigorous ow l u sef u l bent, by previous training. 11. hoped Ise Lail fully explained—if mole information were waning. he would be most happy to answer ee cpitios. A Gontlesnao, whose name we did net learn, said, he eiah.-1 to know how Mt. Ostra's establishment would Ofiirt liberty of conscience. The D!ke of lirrev said, That it was a point of I..•qutry o 6ic6 M' Owen coasted, and was most so. licittus to wive es; 'Dalin,. . . Mr. Ow": 1.--" I are glad the question has been irked, and am mach cbliged to the Gentleman who has psi it. I can 'Orly vale, that for the moot) , yositedoring which I have presided over the establish. Ma at N.* Lewitt, I have no! known In any psrt sr the errantry s WWI girded', industries's, or religi. ow eat of person" then those who are there employed. —((edgers)of item are frogs the north of Seel rod, and do am. on , :ertinfl • word of English. They speak Gaelic, and smith the concurrence If my peonage", who Iwo given me the most able a • nee I. this, psis ovvey Wog else, I base engaged a Cler gy's's to Wilma them in their own religion, and in rule walla It s grr.—( Low" cliecrs.)—Wb e way appliation isss here made to me on the sehjoct of aiisairew, I Malt ale.)s end .d to make such asneements, as That ach individeal siseulil have lih•ot 10 worship Gad in his own way.—(fhcers.): will further ease, that est own hope is a house of daily prayer.—( Ilefar!)—lllat,Gentleinen,lei me not deceive, ou.ls is. house of daily pre yer.birca aw„ohoeak I posiess a kisooledge not yet consprebetssled, *lnch ' delerinssies my own opinion', I make list knowledge Rive way in the happiness of others. When any cue shall Le able to convince me that my sentiments are not knowledge, it will not rest with me to believe or disbelieve ; l mast immediately acknowledge thej Huth, whenever or by whomsoever it may be demon strafed to me." Mr. Oaten then went oo to describe the state of she inhabitants of New Lutatits with rP• tippet to religious feeling. In that establishment, be ob d, where there were not less than 2,500 per tons, there never was known any feeling of religious animosity. Oa a Sunday morning they left the in hale, sometimes to the amount of 1,500, arm in are, and proceeded to the English church, Iwo Calvinistic chapels, and other places of public worship. At the first place some would stop, wish their fellows good morning, and go in, and se with each place as they came to it., On their worn they would unite again, and their friendly behaviour would induce a Hippo.. titian that they were all of one religion : the greater pert were members of the Established Church; the ',winder were generally Calvinist.. . Major Totes,,, wished Mr. Owen to say, whether ell the commodities produced in the proposed esta blishment would be consumed within it, or some of thee sent oat to market? Mr. OWL:f.—.. It is so 'winced that it may be OSO or the other, according to the localities of the si tuation deed upon. Such is the outline, and such are some of the general details of the plan, which recommend to you as being well adapted to give per manent, beneficial, and productive employment to Ilse poor, and to all those who see unemployed, er ea htssly employed. " But a I popular objections bare been weed egainst it : such as occur to me I now will bsiedy notice:— •" Firs, That tie plan i• ispencolc.ble ; •• • Seeend. Ti.,. it prac ieahic, tt soold enslave sad degrade the pnor and work lag o " • Third. That It wnold ci .k e the pose and working elan?. romhotoobie Nod eorpy. dol is ammonia 11.01 porolatim moll items r to • ra;.l4li: " I hove well siverideted olsoe objecting" s sed f knew eh it filth of them pr. teed. frwe n Moiled view of obe whiter, from tom sant • f gettetal esper•ea.r. sad Iron; 'dm food iment4l Cr?..,. rowers.," I.• due noose. whirl' moat ha% g been com pelled to err. lie from labotei. Those, and . very color obit,. tom mosso! be atoole, I ass ready to moons is litesiort fill and umple samer. •To Again speedy and rill coital mar of rawy rept, to all the abjection. obi hdm doe to the nosdres W•loer, ski... Needs( ms Men commordy end Irms "no 1 sow oak thme teals. N. inJividoal ras imagine. that a liOjeet which I..vithom too many imeres:s mod e..o.lderNiluni aas be iti•k• • tairotrly disco. ed ft Piddle Merlin". To do Jostkoo to poor. whoop, nil tic calmom. nod iMelligemeth ot tie edit's" stair of *dotty oai. Cornish may to be opploci I. Mi. Subject. It carer Cm, aid 1 hope it helm, tsill ..y ioletilion to are, let yell no ski. white* t I already gown woo proof that I pre. I-, a sincere mom& of my teatiesetoccloirefolle , nhjertia,:mr• rifle every kind ..; opyr.olsions, raider than lend wove sep ' \ . Nt - , C3l' A . . 1. tTIE ITA N , -c*'- , . foidoce,4 irjas,„ s Walt ekreasKinc) ? its eosin °kW h r t in suffer consider. 'ilea was,:Xtat ol t i oar b oy that spirit of iide pendence pport of every manly feeling and honest principle. lie thought such a s)s. tent ' to easy talent, was altogether, in his view, en onitts& to any old established community, although it might enamor in a new society, such, for instance, es that which was about to be settled at the Cipe of Good Hope. [Some person., apparently for the purpose of il. Nitrating the kind of independence which the sprialt•r thought In so much danger, cried out " the wrath. house, the workhouse.") Mr. TULLIVALL explained Sir W. D. Crespignj's sentiment as to making men machines. The general acceptailoo of the term, if tree as 14) the effect of Mr. Owen's plat, would destroy its character. —Bet the reverse was tree ; Mr. Owen's plm tended to open the minds sad invigorate all the fp. celties of human nature. The present system of ma. nefactories did, indeed, make men nischines in the the vilest sense of the word. lie took the manufac ture of pins for en temple ; it comisird of numerous cl* • • us of labour, the operators of which were en. iirely distinct from, and ignorant of, any other bet 'het insignificant part whith occupied themselves Ile did not think it a disallaintage to rintOr4 men from this confined circle of action and knowledge, *herein health, Intellect, and morals were all but ea. degoished, and to place them under the controal of anactireend intellectual impulie, whereby they would elevate their own roodition and that of all these about them. Ile would not determine on the practicability of Mr Owen'• plea. But he *mild declare that it was so excellent, that nothing bat good could result f r om it ; Its very faller. in present practice wield prove useful in other respects; It would di•p'sy, at least, Herr means for Weeding the capacity, the sena, ant the erjoymeets of human salute. Mr. LiArfirr pr•poqe.l to pltn to the. consideration of the Nl•erhig, with regard to which he had had a eorreopon.lence will the Chancellor of the lischeguer, and this plan us., he said, the fruit of 40 sears of diligent aflcctioo and practical ea*. mination. Mr. Roircaorr, bewever, rose to order, observing that it would UMW better to communicate lh lia. nourabieGestlrman's plan to the Committee, as that Meeting was asten hied to decide upon a particilar plan, and as the business could not possibly be g .ne through, if the IA or 30 plans, which he sodersto neve,io the room, should be separately discussed. Mr. BArfliT consented to withdraw his propos?. lion, observing that he should propore as expedient for raising the money to carry Mr. Owea's plan into the most extensive effect within seven years. Sir SAMUEL CLIAIL JACTIS said, that Mr. 01111.1 had been called a wild visionary ; but if he cools' only prove that his object was attainable, his fed would be gained. It appeared from what Mr. Row. croft had said, that there were many other plans foe the attainment of the store object ,• and be therefore insisted on it, that Mr. Owen had done great good If even nothirg mire should result from his labour, than the investigation which bad predated all these Oa.: Hebei* leeth.to,move, that, in perewance l a the recommendation of Cie Committee, one esta blishment on Mr. Owen's plan should he founded by way of eaperiesent ; and which, It was confidently expected, might Le attended with results equally beneficial to the Pcblie and to the promoters of it. Mr. C. GOUT wounded the Resolution. Major Toaaexs rose (or the purpose of giving his bumble support to the Resolution, avid of statiog, at the same lime, the tales( to which be agreed with Mr. Owe., and the reasons which induced him I. dia -1 sent on some points. it was gratify fog to re/eel en the readiness with which their Roils! Chairman, and all his Illuttrions relatives, tare their cosine:lance to era! plan for the relief of the distressed s it was gratif)lng to the poor, to be assured in their distress, (but the sanction of the bighest authority would be given to every proposal for their assistance. Nor - . _ - - • -• • • itanm few say per,oral advantage to envailf. Mooing to par.' determined resolution en oppose his plan ; and the "w r.ahe l l ' i r t.. "" ae l e sr v .: • • ln t i ,r n ? d i .; , 1 h n 0 .... e . " 1 . 7 r "..." 4 ".. f i' i 0 1 i '7 „.. •• • : ,.....1 "k1re115011 they •ssigned for this opposition was, that by ' leg.. Acting ein this rrirseiple. I min wale, that 111. Om In..Mlrs Owens plan man ass Mode 100 l ' atft i t a ma ' far via mo t 10. routed tw o elm. eu...lln.lie feint. ewer-any mint chief . • Net., be was astonished that any person estatives a p,hull 11 eeeee if g Till it Sannnl he ireirodored inter r h oo l e i appear it en tech a s t; for,ln his opinion, pralswe isll.iisol Nice..argiq ter.a...4 a great thane, tbrooshoot - the dithale_ . fnbrle of ...cid,. Al 11..1, many p.,5t sin sent/HS move we were machines the betterePt"'o44ll those _pow Swill Tar elko t te• while% mow nth.. will root detrimelllttillaikehinel tree properly directed.—(4pplatess.) — la their petiti.oler intebeses; mat. *demi am Ms' nest to's& Cad fn hi 1 b r".i." l -al we should not be turned kilo prertion; hoe aware e..rirre and es.lirtml clew ref the seller, ~. will ere. to ,I*.• remese their error,, 11. two, hle en/winced Onentnet. w hen oar 10sideney was thus to be direct• r anl m er ras ill i. le . le• the la. w the c. l l. ll . h t ni s . he m p it , t iar ea lp meal ir. inb4 ei rie lo s m iet h i eri e. it Le od , in the paths of morality and ih r a e t c o tit e ed w e"l t t i ar ia a n s n b l y d wined with ild s o w . that ghe e um" 00k„,,, the weir sr , ortlitig so mac.lik e Otte mei . ordeal to which they cam he pot, that n competent tegewsni infancy into the possession of knowledge, flintltif, r:Lbelivr".• te:lherif"ltieh"l.,riltdirlit: Pl oo d bile p ", ar i. i d ires ee ,L:r i Lh el and esefolness; it was thee that man less forced into ' eel "' 4 " de Prose eworwore.. the sati re ; ~,„ h e gi ss i • state or doriisolion. W.., it possible then for per. foam the pubic ...h i d g Mr that. If reel esmoin.eion prim sons pe . ing common sense to urge an element so theta right nod good, nor outerirar fellow creatures may .persdhy relieved from the &tart,. which w o w nverohelmoth totally disagreeing with all human etp etlenre ? ma she cottony he pot to possessing' of ohs, coalmine Iwo, 5;.,, Every thing that was gond for man was proposed by m Pr i ° 2 " ... ll ,l'il li i: ea w i h ,t e iv h i . i im e t is 'l l "" try ' la . ealitied by iii Wletilwilla the plan of Mr. Owen ; its object was to pat aside poverty, vice, sod misery, and to reat or e t he bless " For this potpie. I rereametd that sepst..te Ceasetillee O lweesfiestion shall be footed fr so among the plioripn ings of plenty, virtue, and happiness. Freedom, lon, , dallada. whine interests and Mesmer now govern the isometry r ev eled on essential part ; it was, indeed, the very Yearn, earl Coromietre shall report to II form Public Mee. hip their opinion as t • the probable effects which the hawser basis of the plan. No Coe would be oblieed to ester I should explain to the.. woo hare opera the interests of Si into the system—no man who was equal to the .111 / 4 6* wham they were DPl l "lslee I. insestieele• 'lnw ood supp ort of himself and his family need corn. ender it. Ile I conotry is; weking, Ile all am, for • remedy; isterrstd. as "WI Iltatt, K. Ito. a proper sribedy far she sai l 50n .,,,, k No one was required to stay in it, if, after having Ilai a""" a 4 surely oo intlisted& trlolievere may he his math , . experienced it, be tboeght it more advantageous to man Miceli., ar shriek froweillblr task of maptir.-. him, independent of its regulations. The p ro j ect had " Net oninin, t..prvdu on, oh,. iisit iormi, in siiiics, opinion on the 'object. I leave ...qv prepaid en be. neadde, the best claim to attention ; it was a theory which Oboe Geolleores abound me, who prows. setter kesonledg of b. mat ',Ulrike id Similar rb•es. it line siwlL.e r ..1 6104. bad been pot in practice by w ay of es p eriment, tee If. twee. or, ii shieriosgh insw.ol s ot.m. int o u.e er.,l . nose one. I ' hich ItsP•timmlit bad. 14 far as i t went, now hero MP now neigh. d“tie the prrpulalion 1/.• colonic, comsat kowie• evident truth. Ile adverting t• the moral elects of Inbred ht as, of 11.• owliwory r me wmci.tiord 1.• ter• t 0.., arc we to quo I 4.11, and • la. this - yenta', the Don. Bin. stated the strong fact, that c re.Lii ie. pwor, lA.. tufts ,. ..n . P a i t 7d t 7bu bet c.hig ". - " during the II years that a tillage, estahli.hed on this lbe peace mid 4:srel esedrr plan at Lima, Ind emitted, no criminal presets had •• Sorely v. , : t and ef 'an ' " traa ' allar Y been served open any one of its inhabitants. Tn• same mot he ;mow • let stover nopt she least oblettleast. l meafteres-.4g is, . only difficelty now in the' way was the want of money t.. creole rontelnteior ' 4 rd'ennoimi a4 for carrying the system iota elect. Money could e inerstionloss tertive ell P etit " " stew thiamin ;HAIM opt... raised in shuorlasice for tinnier, Or Ohhectuary wars; "It is wi:h this vie.. ~ the Min-tine teen streets could he pulled down and rebuilt at am •nor. Culemitte.s of iseectigeto. • of homes rlisrodent, bet of preaimea accord.. amid tech Counotteer Moils ezpence, and the means were seldom w a ntin g ewer be oppoimml, II is Way Isl. • procure a otter vomi t 1 for accomplishing any purpose of ostentation, however la same citiovroleset pen or the M. moll., poi up the mdtl., useless. But ft hen Money was asked to accommodate and, if Necessary, Oleo' doily le give it hate vet leferun'inn the distresses o f the the pier of apply ing it poor, may he required. and MAIM each ohjealms m utast toloally - elest lathe thiods of the deferent parties was always declared to be visionary and inspractica , " P"'et,"`e t fats le tee. il ie oat la, isttettlilll le /forst' lbe ble,—sot fi t for the consideration of Patliameot. — iormiNg or these repartee Cesalteees, bat la ilvfaatiato lalleal .. to the consideration of she Meeting. m being the boo, M or- tie Weald not be deterred, however, from s upp ort. ramm of bring airmen speedy, 11.4141.1•11blaina rational settle ing soy plan likely to improve the wretched enndi• tipioion far we ogosowttio. tomle 1 cremomorod. to gire per attest. lion of the suffering labourers. Ile would do nasty imoellcial, productive employment to the poor end otocropied a the stn, ling classes. thing in his power Inc the support of this Plan ; h e " Much as might be said in •Iplarliatia of .y proceedings, congratulated the Public that such a man as Mr. as imi mme e eillm •‘ " O i a li re ad p . rele " a lv in a sy sh o s ia l ls7 h atid irk a ii re la rmil r"" v e,.:llll,l,l.a'ted Omen esi•ted ; and be congratulated the country that eni.a,te 3tter *owe, I will now e n o r lsg ei I, Miles, T oo• there were individuals, as illustrious in 'sok as they istmg these betalffilleali, b bin li WWI 111 pees spew ywor at. teeto.n. were remarkable for th eir eatensiv • chari t i e s, who boldly and generously came forward in this c ause, " Theta+ i-. Thai the eat . Ory I. in great 44.rerth " 2. Thal the poloripal room a hob...erasion' sorb diverts to end who were always reedy to promote every plea the rapid 111Crerrie of solichiore. and iv her wirmille power, f or re li ev i ng the distresses of the p o ne.....(,appietsae.) which rre.,te prodertiors =oh aboodaffily than the present ottartgeas a'l of *swirly perm. to be caromed. —Mr. Owen, of Leavitt, could have the neertfelt " 3. T ..tt machinery, sod productive power from setrosee, tietisfactinn of sitting down In his menden and view. caveat sow he re-waled • Woe creasing still ~ e wer ra n t. " 4. The. if relent:llr prodommos coda be limited. II nimbi log th , e . 11:rk of his owe benevolent hands t he could be most 111 .* se lo boils Oro. been as Ike% eArfIN.I• at.e... my, -- These people call me their benefactor, their gns,ce of alt hurt , wiry ..onts. and mar he made so be, highly parent ; I /lawn taken them from the cells of want u.etal nod sol...slaar•oh .... all MA.. awl dames. sa d nee y t vef t um, and hive transplanted them inlet .3. Th.l ib.• ouls tor..p. r anal amoral reek( fen* lb. eitisti '- - - lee 14."***141141n r ,--i t .. I n Pulwitew prurient& menu. place of indeitty, virtue, and happiness."—Might by wawa gradually. and a i towt him) to a... individual. roe. th e owl sssss ts of I l•is champiin of the poor be souipnee may be rained is lite prcre.it poor, of fecileetime, • sad afterwards as ;de e• keep .au..l pare lova it. Crowne dwith ts ! Though sneered at by some, •• 6. That this pe tactile applied to practice will elevate ihe there was 'a Doing shave who looked on his labours whale sell . of " elf "; while toe 0 1 0 0.• sate tteloirlfile• new I° with d.fferent •t es, and who would in the end re. practice, merit °rerun:lly fare the great moss of the People to the its. dc.ce d rispid:y tom 1.... rev ..aJ Warr.. watt them. Ile concluded by moving, that " 7. That. while all adat that *swasethine moss he done; oa rs o f tie Committee appointed at the Meeting i h0 " .1.... "1 ai the w. "N T hi ads."l". 11"" mi11 ... 1"K ege"wat r Call Meld on the 26th of Jane, be approved of by this _.... ____ w.t.... rreet.ng • great roarer, is esange even allel auhrerory se iinsopeary. Meeting, and he trusted there world not be o ne du •• 9. That lelbelbilllbill Its been prorogued, without adapting ',Nikita voice. ea t ere/live mow es of rad' for the poor; aka thus has it . • . be. e mettle aelininilettare.' that the G ivernmeot mid the Le- Mr. I . oot newer rote w i t h more pleasure than to nolkhire ..are sot setlletent prettiest tosowinice or she pmr second the motion of Sir W. De Crespigny. The eel sierhi.g dee', and of heir coseeros, to devhe Oe.e•letes Committee, though Mr. Owen's plan ISO SO directly fat I'.e r relief. I mean os 1:111114pPel be these observasi..ne, eith.r io else Govinmoscist or the Leahlmares 1 meetly mate a counter to the maxims of political economists, foetid it ample fart, stl.e.itted by all. necessary to recommend ineestigstion. lie deseanted " 9. TWO wader twee tireemmaires. two loei.igent, drsenn. orreed with ea* or part., bat who Imodesoled nearly thirty on the almost Incurable Pails of the labou t ing c la ss es, years t.. eetee.ive esperiweets 0411 'he'll...l. sad Is Nirepilie their excessive privations, their moral degradation, es "e le...leder et she h ' tte ' e ( " I teem. ' er the sod their inconaenient presser', both by pseperims P 0 . mid ...bin elosser. oilier• a mode at rids, f in Ike Pebeie sod mime, on the means of the rich. The vic tims en sly- to incipie a r .i.ing cmoromptomompal In pfilthicliat‘aa.. A 'firmer ts I. give • regular and • Morin toren eto both, by were not to blame ; they were forced into this de which neww new wealth will he ebeudit• el. created, one the graded condition by the regulations of society. — mew, to.n liho r•ied Irmo It, Woes' rliScolties. . ... That fhb todividoal tteti vies wish so emceed front the a s pl. „ - . Public that this donee nlll owe oe has affect every etas. and meni, it 'meld be a triumph for those political Should the proposer on this occasion be forgotten. • party la the.:a•ee hot that be believer. W kiwi a shadow of dose reemietag epee Mr owe mind, that tao i r on y economists wises, principles opposed his. If, on Mr. 0 en Rasa so r p iiv i n i man ; p erseverin g in his emeripilos. Cram the highest to the lowest, will rioter be the the contrary, Mr. Owen's plan was wel to remedy. "unions, end when opposed only exhibiting heck choose tes the cm/army, Ids cometisso mow is perfect, that all ing the present enafesiorr and misery that glinted in ardour. Whether right or wrong, there was a me. mum be germ gainers. s. 11. That. oevertheiem, loreedres no confidence tis bephiere society, they would establish a certain knowledge of rat grandeur is the manner of pursuing the object, , to bit emisictiso, however clear and wrote it may bee bat he the means necessary for the restoration of society io and when we reflected on the philanthropy of his . ado from the sass respectable and latelligeot of all parties a all similar cases. It was en experiment only which motives, we might well excuse the benevolent eetht fell, fair, mud ape. howesstiatios. " 11. not be inks forties extruded mod respeetabie invent- the Report of the Gosimittes recommended ; and by sisal for laying the flattering unction to his seal, Vie"- I ra•'• the affinities of the ce•errY areas urgeld 14 1 the seems or failure of that experiment the plan it. that he was the high priest of a, and that all ti k h zi ,,e.:frpo.tbliallc " o at " hlutrh"Tiwies; nod t a b:T s :al self mast stand or fall. To receive and examine the who differed from tiles were infidels to the religion of Weeniest the empire, opinion, n to a be (erased only after such as proposition would prove that the Public were reedy, troth. it was not his intention to represent Mr. imirestinastoo. as on the occasion of Ile Steve Trade. the Restriction Owen altogether as an enthusiast. lie had proved, .13. Probe this iadisidual, now, to the urermast. and ire o it be parsible that be ran be saidarnere by any private moire or Act, and other most important sod difficult measures much in regard to education, which bad not been pee. Personal °hied. if. titec " wwilie'cluli"" itorideni —if • Ilia had been transacted through the aid of the vieusly ascertained. It was knotan before that two i hie "w w riest, has bees teed . tared—if y the emsairy is to mend dliir „,_iy e are f ac t, re . ' he only ao,„ fee reseinti•on and good sense of the country, to hear, to persona brought •p, one in London the other in Paris, kenos, will you not afford bias the enquiry which he solicits i" determine, and to acr, as become men Pf courage and would each have the peculiarities of religious cos. Mr. Ot en was frequently cheered In the coarse of understanding. That population bad increased and toms and behaviour distinguishing those capitals.—lt 1 this address, and, al its conclusion, the approbation was increasing, he was ready to admit, and God for- was known before, that a female born is St. Giles's, of the Meeting was signified by load and continued hid that the case should lie otherwise: we were not and another in St. James's, would prove, at the Noe of lapplause,. in a condition to retrograde,and yet the numerical maturity, the highest and the lowest of of ere,. Sir WILLIAM Ds CRESTIONT, in rising on this etc- proportion of population and means hail gone on to. doe. Bet Mr. Owen had taught us that we might sire, was desirous to state the motives which had in. gether. lie pressed the necessity of an experiment, contrast those circernstancea which had hitherto eon fleeted him to biiug ((mini in Parliament, Mr. and concluded by seconding the Resolution. trolled es; he had invented an admirable machine Owen's plan for ameliorating the condition of the The Royal Cif stews's begged leave, before the for reanufactering mind, end this he had himself peer. It mss stis.detely necessary, it was the imp.. neat speaker addressed the company, to call their at. blended in practice with the manufacturing system of ratios duty of all, in times of difficulty, to lend a tension to the object of the meeting, which wet, to the country. Agreeing, as be did, in the propriety helping hand to that class of the community when receive the Report of the Committee on Mr. Owen's of making one experiment for the benefit of morals weighed down by want, by poverty, and misery. plan, and to hear and • consider Mi., Oweu'a own re. and intention, be most enter his protest against all The lime was graved when their situation must be .Pari. II was his duty, as Chai'May's to suggest to the Mr. Owen's schemes for abolishing pauperism and attended to period visa come when something speakers the necessity of keeping so the point, and encreasieg wealth throughout the country, convinced most be done for their relief. Ile looked with ab. asoiding political discussions. This caution he coo. vs he was that they ale wholly unequal to such a barren:, on the system of transporting his fellow. ceived to be necessary, as the person who was then perpow, except Mr. Owen himself was omnipotent. sobjetts, io order to give them the moans of subsist. rising was a stranger to him. If any such discussions Mr. Owen ascribed the existing evils to t':e use of tore in a foreign country.---(Grrai applause ) lie as those which be had deprecated should arise, be machinery, hot he (Major Torrents) thoo4ht it ass. repeated, that he looked with sentiments of horror would-appeal to the company for their aid to pot machinery alone that enabled ns to bear up under on that system ; it was creel, it was a disgrace In the them down.—(Grist applause.) them. The principal reason, in his opinion, why ' i nation, slid ought to be abolished.—(ofpplanee)— Mr. J. Lowe bore testimony to the benevolent in. there wastsot support for CI the population t f this Was Orris not keret motive sofficioot to induce a be. tensions of Mr. Owen ; but still could not help retires. country was, II:at we bad cultivated land worse ode nevolent mind to adopt ally plan, and to enter into sing his dissent from that Gentleman's views. The colated-for cultivation than any other laud in Eorope. any investigation, that mighti cad to the relief of plan, indeed, appeared to him quite imprarlicable.— and people consequently vies@ induced to transfer such distress, and to the abolition of each a system ? In answer to a question front Major Torten', Mr. their espial to other coontries where land was more —Mr. Owen had declared, without the fear of Owen stated, that the commodities produces' in his procnistiett. The next rause war, the erroneous sys. contradiction, that there was in the country Establishment might be sold elsewhere, as well as in tem of our commercial laws, by which the n. c ure ' et present smre means of s•ppoitt for its po- that Establishment. If so, those rodeos would 'sties of life were enhanced in price ; and the relation • end that even if this population wet. Come into competition with the articles which were • third cause was the pressure of the Isaes. These Issevessed i four-fold, there would he en ample already se cheap in the market, that the wookmen who causes induced people to transfer their capital supply for the necessities of such an increased po. made them could not Bleepers the wages which their to countries in which lead was more productive, potation. When such a mime o s was announced, employers vivid afford to give them. Now, then, trade more free, and leers less oppressive. Now, woold any person allow pt•jorlice to shot his eyes c-suld sack a plan operate to relieve the poor? Bet these being three great causes of escessive population, winst the light of conviction? lie knew, imbed, if the population of Mr. Owen% ealabliShassut Should poverty. and Poor Rates, he would ask Mr. Owen the' snow persons reed Mr. Otten's publications nub image beyond its poser of prodactlon and subsist. ' bow his Plan could obviate soy one of them —( Ur. IN