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4"~~. tnrocriat Atiartiainctu.. nousE MONT:AY. JI:I.V 17. The Earl of CAR NAB VON pee cured 3 Petition from the Calico Printers of :llancliester. praying to be heard I:y Counsel against the Calk() Printers' Bill. Read and laid on the clile. The Earl of I.IV Elmo!. nu.v,,,1 :L.: wand =ding of the Bank Foraeties lfill. The Earl of LAUDERDALE advert..al to she claim of a person who had (.011111mM:uteri a useful invention to the Bank, and observed, that it was the ridi of the parson that strangers aught withdraw while hi; pet4iiiii was read, as it would ilistdose the secrets of his own trade. a. 11 ell as the secret of the hank of Bank of Ei n The Earl of I.IVERPOOL said, he did not think the person alluded to could know what the secret of the Rank war. After a few observations from Lord HOLLAND, the Bill was read a second time, and committed for We InestL.v. CESSION or PARCH.—The Earl of LAUDERDALE rose, in pursuance of notice, to move for certain papers, which he said would have the effect of doing away much misrepresentation relative to the conduct of Sir Thomas Maitland, in the lonian Islands. His object was not to induce the House to take a more view of the conduct of that officer, but to enable the public to learn the real services Sir 'l'. Maitland hail rendered the country. The Noble Earl defended hisrelation Against all the charges, and concluded by moving an humble Address to his Majesty, praying he would be graciously pleased to order various Papers (enunie• rated in the motion) to be laid before the House. Eari BATH e INT said he should not do his ditty, were lie to omit swing, that the whole conduct of Sir Thomas Maitland had been in every manner deserving of the highest commendation. That oflict.r was appointed third Commissioner in the lonian Islands, and his nuestv had not in his foreign settlement a MOT.: honourable upright servant. The motion was then pia and carried. lAA ELLEN BOROUGH Formal to go into a Committee on the Marriage Act Amendment Bill, for the purpose of inch). dueing amendments which might be printed, and the Bill re committed on Wednesday. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, if the Bill came out of the Committee objectionable, with 'aspect to the effect it might have on the morals of the people, it was his intention to oppose it in every stage. Lord REDESDALE said, if the Bill was to have a retros pective effect, he never could consent to it. Since the last dis -sussion he had been furnished with statements, moving that a retrospective effect would be most injutious to the public. The Earl of LIVERPOOL did not mean to oppose going into a Committee. He had no hesitation in saying the law of mar riage required amendment. Every facility should be given to Mr rather than obstacles thrown in the way ; hut t he law to re gula te marriage ought to be prospective, emit as }lain as possible. Lord HOLLAND said, the law of marriage was not what it should be, and as the House was willing to o the best to amend it, he expressed a hope that they would not leave it in the worst state. The Lord CHANCELLOR observed, that the proposition of the Noble and Learned Lord (Redcsdale) to put an end to marriage by license, would be preferable to the provisions of the Bill. The Earl of WESTMORL AND conceived, that the Bill, in many distressing cases. might have a retrospective effect. The LORD CH ANCEL LOR—.. If the Noble Earl expects my assistance in giving the Bill a retrospective effect, be never will have it." Lord HOLLAND cited two Bills, which had been sanctioned nil allowed to pass with a retrospective effect. The House went into a Committee on the Bill, and Lord Ellenborough proposed his amendments, which, after some discussion, were agreed to pro forma. The Bill finally went through the Comniutee, and was ordered to be printed with the amendments. —Adjourned. TUESDAY, JULY 18 . GLASGOW ImPitovirsix.sr Brit.—The Earl of LAU DERDALE robe, on the order for the third reading of the Glas gow Statute Labour Bill, and having objected to the provisions of it, moved the Bill be re-committed. The DUKE of MONTROSE supported the Bill in its then date, and pressed the third reading. The Earl of ROSSLYN and Lord REDESDALE objected to the Bill. The Earl of LAUDERDALE then said a few words in reply ; after which the amendment was negatived. The Earl of LAUDERDALE finally moved to leave out the clause giving the Magistrates of Glasgow power to raise money. On that amendment the House divided—For the amendment 10—Against it 30. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. EXTSA Posr.—The Earl of LAUDERDALE moved for a return of Copies of all Correspondence between the Post Alaster General, the Lords of the Treasury, and others, on the subject of an extra post between Liverpool, Manchester, Glasgow, and London. The Noble Earl also moved for Copies of Correspondence ing the charges occasioned by the extra post. respecting Earl of LIVERPOOL did not object to the motion for infotmation. In order to explain to the House the history of the Bill. be stated, that several merchants in Liverpool, Manchester, and Glasgow presented a Petition to the Treasury, communicating a project, by which the post between the above places would be delivered in half the time now employed for the delivery of letters It was considered worth the attention of the Treasury, and an enquiry was made, which led to the Bill. It was only to be con sidered an empowering Bill, the object being to ascertain how far the plan would be beneficial to the puhlic. The motion for papers was then agreed to. The Marquis oh LANSDOWNE presented a petition from Mr. Henry Dance, a Provitional Assignee under the late Insol vent Debtors' Act, stating that he should be exposed by the gassing of the New Insolvent Deitors' Act to actions and great inconvenience. The Petition was read, and ordered to lie on the table. The Capital Felonies Repeal Bill, which stood fur the third reading, occastoood some observation Iron' the Lord Chancellor, who declared that parts of it ought to be kft out. In that view he suggested the Bill be re-committed. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, upon a review of the enact rents of the Bill, did not object to the arrangement proposed by the Noble and Learned Lord. The Earl of LIVERPOOL expressed an opinion that a severe secondary ptu4shment was necessary to supply the punishment of death. l'ansportation for life, which the Bill enacted, was no tenor at all. He was beset constantly with applications to go to New South Wales, which was .onsidered the n.o.t font'. IWO accident that could befal any individual who was subject to the criminal law. The CHANCELLOR then moved to leave out various parts of the Bill, and proposed the B:11 be re-con.mitted. It was ac cordingly lead a third time, upon the undesstandiug that it is to be re•committed. SI ATE or rim Nat.r.—Earl DAR MLEY said, he was desirous of making a few observations in the hearing of the Noble Viscount at the head of the Admiralty, with a view to ascertain the state ofprena.ration in which the ::ivy stood. makt die Naval fufice of in . ::: tnantry to bear weight ol metal equal to tie /roe of the 4..zrerksurt :.hays, no British !int of his...k-sir . .p or bleak 'ilk to v. 1.7 less man ;(4 pnumien. l!e ka :1 rnt TM' NATIONAL, REGISTER.. • - fri}rd,-- , on the average were not able to cope with Ault. e.l-ssliipi of the cla..s. • `,.."%, ,Vtseount, E I.V L ob.icavel, in answer to the tern - - din< of 04 Noble Earl. that et:malty in :de Naval Department had been gr.:tio:d. With re-pevt to ship-: of the force stated by fire Nolsio Earl, his :litjesly's ship.; were considered equal to the ships of the United States, and there was nu particular desire to have them of a superior force. The Earl of DARNLEY expr,-sed himself satisfied with the Noble Viscinint's explanation, and the subject dropped. The oilier Oiders of the Day having been discussed, the House adjourned. wEnteEsuaT, Jtrix 19. BANK Emu;Emus 151 Li. —Lord LAUDERDALE pre sented a petition from Alexander Tilloch, praying to be heard by Counsel against the Bill to prevent Bank I:orgerles. The peti tioner claimed to he heard on the ; ;round that the Commissioner appointed to examine into the be st means of preventing Bank orgories had adopted his invention. The Noble Earl snored, that Counsel be called to the Bar anal heard. The Earl of LIVERPOOL opposed the motion. There could be no difficulty in deciding upon this question. The fre quency of capital punishment fallowing the crime of forgery bad rendered it desirable to prevent the crime it possible, by making forgery of Bank notes so dif fi cult, that it would be almost impos sible to accomplish the object of the forger. The petitioners said they itad,been aggrieved, but in his view they had not been ag grieved. They had the HI benefit of their own inventions ap plied to all Banks, except the Bank of England. They ought not to throw the Bill aside, but give the plan a fair triai. It ought not to be impeded because one man cone forward and said he had been aggrieved. The 1.:4,1 of LAUDERDALE said, the petitioner complained that the pl:m adopted was his plan, and certainly that was a state ment on which a Petitioner might be beard. Lord E I /ESI /ALE expressed an opinion that the Petitioner wit- not town:red. Tit!: Petition was laid on the table. The Bill then went through the committee, and was reported to the !louse without amendment. CITY PLTITION REsPr.croeu TILE QUEEN. —Lard Ear,. E pre,:ntaid a Petition front the I Mayor. Aldermen, &c. in Comm o n Comical asAmblLd, against the Pain , and Penalties Bill. The Petitioners stated, that tnvy heard a Bill lAitS in pro gress, in which her Majesty, the Queen consort, was charged with adultery, and made liable to severe pains and penalties.— This Bill was brought in upon the report of a Secret Committee, made upon papers and documents, and as the Petitioners believe without examination of any persons on oath. The Petition was read. The LORD CHANCELLOR immediately after left the wooltnek, and declared the Petition so objectionable that he s:iould vote against receiving it. lie then put the question—" is it your Lordship,' pleasure this Petition be received ?" A general exeliunation of "No !" followed, and the question being negatived, the l'etition was not received. Tue Earl of LAUDERDALE observed, that it was not to be presumed, from the silence of their Lordships, that they acqui esced in the statement of facts in the Petition. As the Petition had not been received, he should move it be rejected. The Noble Earl's motion was accordingly put by the Lord Chancellor. The Duke of H Aft I LTON said, he should oppose the motion; ha did not wish to go into the question, whether the allegation in the Petition, respecting the Secret Committee, was well founded ; he wished only to act upon an impression, that it was necessary to give the people every opportunity of petitioning, when they telt they had ground for it. There appeared to be much hostility to the right uf petitioning, in treating the petition of a Corporation with disrespect- The LORD CHANCELLOR—..• If any person supposes I mean any disrespect to the Corporation of the City of London, I protest against that supposition. No man wishes to pay more respect to petitioners than I do; but 1 cannot conceive the Corporation of London has right to intern:re with the proceedings of this House, more than any other corporate body; and, my Lords, if you are to give way in these matters you had better not legislate. The Doke of HAMILTON, in explanation, observed, that it was not his intention to impute disrespect to the Noble and Learned Lord. He contended that a Petition in respectful terms was entitled to a fevourable reception. Lord HOLLAND said, he could have wished this Petition had been rejected sub 'Wail°. He thought it was a Petition which ought not to be received. The House having appointed a secret Committee, the Petitioners tooK on themselves to say what the Sealed Papers were. This was a fact they could not know. No petitioner had a right to assert what passed before a Secret Committee of that House, without lie knew what the pro ceeding was. If the Petition was received it would he an :glans. sion that the green bag contained all the evidence 01 the Milan Commission, which he did nut believe it did. The Noble Lord concurred in the motion, The Petition was then rejected. 51AIIIIIAGE ACT AMENDMENT BILL.--Lund IiLLEN• BOROUGH moved the above Bill be ie.cominitted, and the House accordingly went into Committee. Lord It EDEsDALE adverted to the Bill as it then came before the House, and-expressed an opinion that the amendments made by the Noble Loud rendered the Bill more objectionable than it was in its original state. lie concluded by touring the Bill be committed this day six months. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he had been anxious not to object to the Bill, but on mature consideration of the subject, lie was obliged to entreat the House to take inure time for the cAnisi &ration of this most important sukeet. Ile concluded by es pressing a hope that their Lordships would bring forward the ill early in the next Session. After some further discussion, die motion of Lord Redesdale was agreed to, and the Bill thrown out.—Adjourned. THURSDAY. JULY 20. BILL OF PAINS AND PKNALTIES. —The Earl of LIVER POOL moved that a Committee oe appointed to search for pie cedents as to the mode of ennircing tue attendance of Peers in proceedings upon the Bills of Pains and Penalties.—The motion agreed to. The Earl of LIVERPOOL then nominated the Committee. Among the members were, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Holland, Viscount Melville, the Earl of shatiesbury, Lord St. Germans, the Earl of Darlington, and the Marquis of Lans downe. The Irish Fisheries Bill, the Bank Forgeries, an the other Bills, were read the third time and passed. Mr. Johnson, from the Office of Chief Secretary for Ireland, presented Papers at the Bar relating to the Public Revenue. The House went into a Committee on the Irish Court Chan cery Regulation Bill. LordREDESDA LE, after making several amendments, pro posed to leave out the words which, in one of the clauses, ope rated as a post jl , :to law. It declared that no Master in Chancery, in Ireland, should hold out any other office after the Ist of August, and it was described as falling peculiarly hard on Mr. Ellice, the present Member for Dublin, who is a Master in tl:c Chancery. The Larl of 1.1!1En K opposed the amendment. The llou , e yiestion, and the amendment was carded by a majority of 2. We understand Lori 1.. LY YON then moved to leave out the clau:,e altogether, which :elates to residence, and upon a diviaioo the rnotioa was carried : For leaving out the clause . 22 Ag: inst it. .. .. Ice BSI:, a: hinen••::t4, thie vem traough tht Comm:tie., 14_s CI 'I) be •epteto. On the motion of Lord AUCKLAND the Insolvent Dabtort' Bid was re•corrvnitted. Lord iVilltni4A,LE. dig said Conall. made s everal amodmefirs, and aftet a convaation betwe Lord C:tm cellor, Lord Aktekland, and other Lords, the Amendments were agreed to, the Bill pawl through the Committed. ant IWdli ordered to 'ec reported. Adjourned. ratosv, .int.v 21. The Small D2bts Recovery Bill was committed, and, after a few observations from Lord Redesdale, reported to the Home. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' BILL—The report of the Insolvent Debtors Bill was received. The LORD CHANCELLOR, alluding to persons committed for contempt in not paying money into Court, observed, that some amendment was mowed on that subject, whicis he should be able to propose on Monday, when the third reading of the Bill is to take place. The Bills on the table were read, and the House adjourned. MONDAY, JULY 17. Mr. CALA' Elt'l moved for Returns of the Fees taken by the Court of Requests for Southwark. If the facts were as he understood them to be, lie should move, next Session, to bring in a Bill on the subject, for recovering Is. The tees iu Southwark were 16,.3d.—in London Ins. 6tl.—in the Tower Div ision,ss. lid.—Papers ordered. ROMAN CATHOLICS.—.Mr. PLUNKETT gave notice, that he had several Petitions on the subject of the Roman Catholic Disabilities; but he added, that he should not present them, nor ititroduce any measure tot this subject, owing to the einharntssing and momentous opiestion which now Agitated Parliament—a question which was of the greatest iiiiportatiee to the welfare of the country. THE NEW itsititacks.—On the question that the New Barrack Agreement Bill Report be presented, ?kir. CALCRA FT opposed i:, stating that the Old Bar• racks might be had if the patties nese so disposed. The agreement was extravagent, and nithout competition ; and it the measure were rejected now, when the Chancellor of the Exchequer eatue again lie would collie with a much melts moderate estimate. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER spoke, but what he said was not !lewd. Mr. T. WILSON also opposed the motion, as the ex. pence was too great. Mr. CALCII.AfT complained of the measure, mainly because the Government had u n dertaken the business without coming to Parliament. (Hear.) A Member asked who was to pay fur what had been done? Mi. (-Aix:RAFT replied, the Cabinet. (A laugh.) Mr. LEN NARI ) also resisted the motion, as formitig an inordinate dentaild. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw for a division. The numbers were— Ayes V I Noes 74 I Majority IS. DUBLIN ELECTION.—The SPEAKER pies:Ailed a Pe tition front Henry Grattan Esq. complaining of au undue Election for Dublim— O rdered to be taken into const• iteration on l aesday se'imight. CITY PETITION.—The Slicfiffil presented a Petition from the Common Council of the City of Landon against the Bill of Pains WO/ Penalties. On the motion of Mr. Alterman Wood, it was read, and ordered to be printed. 'life QUEEN'S SERVICE OW PLATE.—Dr. LUSHING. 'cos renewed his motion respecting the soviet VI 1.1.1ie presented to the present Queen, in 1508, by the late King; bat lie denied that lie lead been desii tins of taking the House by any surpiise, as lie did nut know that the Ilim-o would out adjourn this day. The pattern was her own; and her Alejesty used it at her apartments in Ken sington Palace till she left this comatty in 1611. It was left with Mr. Alessi', on the express understanding that it was to be eeslored on her Majesty's return to this coun try ; but its retort' has been refused by the Lord Chain bee lain, who had bald that his Majesty had not lit en pleased to give orders for its return, and it remained at the Jewel Office. lie cundentued this proceeding as hasty, tiojust, unit calculated to produce initiation in the country. 'Fite hour of trial was approaching—hut was it right to make every clurt in this way to degrade her Al jest, before trial, by in eventing her from keeping the state fining her rank? lie demented that one Right flout. Gent. (Mr. Ceti JJ iii g) was itot present; and added, that the furniture, Etc. now shunt the tlneen was hired.-- coucluded with moving for papers repotting this plate. Lord CASTLERE.AGH lamented that he was not pre. Sent uu Saturday, as also the mode in which the motion was then urged. It would not have been :in extreordinaly act of courtesy first to make all possible Mutinies as to what was the season regarding ihe refine' of the plate. But he found the same acrimony in the speech now ut tered which was calculated to inflame the populace, now so aroused as to be induced to IMOD( the Sovereign's Pa lace. (Cheers.)--'llie Host. and Learned Gentleman was throwing about firebrands, and he laineuted this result. It appeared to In a part of that systematic course of hide iiiiii anon which, he was sorry to perceive, was adopted on this subject. (Cheers.) The basest populace was aroused. (Cheers.) —On applying for the plate 'low, Lunt Liverpool immediately answered, that us sums as leer Majesty had obtained a suitable tICSIIIt'fICI: stn. should bts accommodated with plate. He reprobated the inutital, and should 'Heel et won a dlleCi negative. Or LUAiINC•TON reptied.-11e bolo ti the Howe would have the candour autl the kindness to imitilge mai with a few words. (Hear.) Ile would out occupy its time by :name' ing the observations of the Noble Lord as to the exercise of his humble talents; but be would say, that Isis appointment as an adviser of her Majesty had been unsulicited and unsought on his part—however in competent lie might be, he about(' discharge his duty with integrity and seat. (Hear ) Ile owed it to Ilia ottii jestilication to mention two in titter" facts. Ott Friday last, for the first nine, he had become acquainted vt ith any thing :elating to this subject, end it wues airauge4 between the Sulteitor General OI the Queen suit I iiiii that the bornier should bring it forward on Saint day. it was not mail late on that day that he was apprized by lies Sulicitor•Genetal that he should be compelled to have London, and consequently that the task must devolve upon him (Dr. Lushingtoo). He had himself suggested the I ropriely of sending honey to the Noble Lind, and %sliest he cattle dime to the flutist on Satur.lity be heel asked the Clem:el:or of the Exchequer it the Noble Loud Writ expected ; the reply was, that it was nut exactly known. He was waiting the au tival of the Noble load when the Speaker called upon him, and then he bad to take upon himself to decide whether lie would bring it lorward or postpone it indefinitely, for be dud 1101 know at that Uwe Met the House would be ri (ined to sit oil day, Was it that oat of respect ivr l'.itla!tt it