The Statesman. — London, England, 1819-07-02 00:00:00

THE WATVAIAV. "resist teethes nil bet. bot Werepred Jour istration-1 to the mono ran rupees • And dlefefirlie the Comte of Janice.- (near. Ireer!r-lowelAkke MM. 'bat she Ring seas Maar sop.' piped to be present le your Coons. and that by Neva gaga ' ke dee:lard' Miff ingebinses, stall restibmis, matt tliPreastrt o ,Ileas reelool.: Now, indeed, the cosesery moss beatni k say-" Navels,. defector, oroodiror " it es ge - e - That the gnat darter Is am WM • 101.. t d by the sale of judgment.. Ms en almost equal et II has epr-an up-1 mesa the sere impoesikility of obeolaing Ince Jorignoren. without • ▪ eiglity poi.ese. 'traces are so prat mot sass men week With* brook ..• lope. ire lbws lose twice she amoral of It by meting for entertain rrilrees.-(Mawr, bear!) -So.\ is sew dr Mk of she Carves of romonn taw min* owe. tegethet with doer laikeior ribose'. lb I have oafortomelch gnat Into /stay,' old sham flaorilons are soca erroverted Imo the rssamary joric i Medan of _a doggie Magiesrate. farmed se admientyle • symem (Sr dee adedahis sad d methods, d pink, throoginsot the, land. Fenn oar Common awn Caort• the smelter of Comm.. Law. these growl priariplei of joiner, are Mount Inver sell by sperlfhe dens of Parliament. Bed Ow grime. Me massy grievsece, Is the dreadful lay nod earlier a ear (Warts of ' Tbe proem "pleas is the lean of Chanter, Is the: wore at mite hymen r.frilag Ikon soy 'rem 'kW was ever enahlched in • civilised twantry. ilk is la a grin 11111••• ire atitibstahle a the eroodakese sad unfired monner is oboe*, the le g Water* bas at various peri..d• hisperei man se that ankh miglle. skew all other 'knee. to he exempt tram them. it stool/ be better to gag tweed the. les as peseeedinge i• • Girt of Janice. Fee whet premise are all ear taxes paid t l'or the maitomaire a she Losebutime-of dint Coweekaike which deckers .bat Jamie* dc.II he Armpit elm• it shall be partly neerrible se Me rich aid to she pose. Net by 1•P pre- mot germ' el meatiest. the'reor gra Is self prerloded from oh akin, we tiro ark mg Os obtal•jostime. A writhe( isomer, I Of the inagoilade of lils evil has. I andeestaad. horn lately •11- Ibtailed in • full as. peaks la she lisore of limaerry.— A erfealsitt had eerweirmlr psi la an sower 1 • she phttonfre bill, het it was 11/55 artesian is obtaia an are espy aerosols screams. 'lir degrease applied no she Chart for • copy.- What doe. the Moor Mud" or she eon reds red ler such • copy -a sore perhopsl- . NOM. 1-0.1111 waves 10.0Lel. Roe lb keep the Home Inapt saspeire, she sea e i re il A m foe Mks copy al account , Wei w.010g.-0.0111. fir eller eepierabsee I The Lord Chad. trfeetermioly Inlegered. eat the lhha am dew far 91101: I ( Vett, however, so waft hp way man this digeosiog power I let the charge be be. moderate, es/ zed, and kt no men have the poser of rain* Pe redeelog Is. la hedg e r i n gbh laNallet she Clmsrell•• had overstepped his power I do nem Mop *ow tee enquire Wm If be hail hero disineihrd so have exercised is what smolt have bees tbe resell to !kebab... f Teem •Illionoteli rip a, el have is • great it pee arise* from your footmeo• stamp doles, they have at k.gsh grows op late an obstrucilou of she carom of Jamie,. Is the present awe .f the nienkeisinillows of the law, the wise and "shwary priociples of the Comma Lew new ahsetiorly keeled to all except Inge wine could game the Gown with • seesbly pewee. I mpewies. as aware. lime he ea made nee mesa f the pa:titular evils alfrodiag the ado aistration bet they have georr-ity admit is p delsiL g the ec Is eas Mau removing Mem. besides hearing kr the Pohl* Ms Immensr adeli..s.ral lino meet may say ohm ibis is a its_bjert MI slink re lore srl 61 castallril without a pnei Parliarearary Reform. et ▪ bliart•lln I shoal/ feel mey title emalideire la ll before kW Meese es it se at peewee eemetesed. V i 2 Hoer being_ properly sigiloat in she discharge of Its k t r eipt she ,award"Propk, Ile•te odd have eons mid tsar ▪ of lairs, i. e immestmee teneleary if white is she A elfaCtiots Of polite. All de r nee evil. which nothion ten ro" awls but • seal Repreersini ie.. ache People-a Reprersatier agile lurid take care that saves were properly impure& mad that their pm/w e ems proper's applied - At strews. it it *My , when ttn abort becomes moo se moose hat any corer) s set M Not morello( •l. Aad whet bas her• she reels of the ma jority of Pail amenisey eagoiries in • ober P 'Link elr, at I she best. has polkas wee g sad is. frequently remotes nark \eve aggrieved she evil, as tided far the m. it part by • grew • adiii,lelsel piecemeal Pee troalry. fit, I will too my relme. wallas' Ow Ibls smiting, hyaena, progrring the folio sr Mesoluden t- " That early In the melt Smoke el Parise-sew the, Moose will tabulate its mow Wises • ,, Net,efistlO• the State of the He preseatatims of the People." Mr. G LAMB felt considerable satisfectioe at finding, that the terms of the motion would compre hend all thole who entertained views friendly to Reform, whatever dillfereocts on some piste might prevail amongst them. lie did not rise to follow the 800. Barrett through the whole course of his ergo- ' scent, because he did not think his moil eloquent err hepp) pemeges were connected with the points c( (lifetime* to ehich he bail alluded. A. he dis. Meted, heavier, from those doctrines whirl, had beet. supported at other times by the Honourable Dv noes, he felt shed it behoved him to be more specific is drawings lino beta's'', himself and those doc trine.. Whatever might have bete the morels of Reform, of which they bad heard so much-and he ma- itrongly inclined to think, that since she herons" end his ceedjutors bad placed themselves at its head, that march bad been Milo more {Sao what was is military language called mathing time, an set chick reesisiod in asking much dose and to progress, we rather its • retrograde motion-- (e largh)-his perossolon will was, skit the &it *Pp of the p,..gress most be, to pet doyen coned led bribery sad Cos tepli4llll.-111tar, hew! J--The Marone' hid ass night rejoiced at the tate develop. wants of corruption in oilkreet borettelts; at She beginning of the Mission, he had understood that Mich circuits*t mere below the notice o a Radi i:al Reformer- The H. use estriaially had not bed the Hon. Otsrones'e estisctoce is prostrating lies. ilatecigsliume ; but whilst the, d siderated hie pre. Semis It ass 4 10 Poldible 1 0 dos .t diet he bad spent his days, soil " COtliallOd 'be insitoight nil." is. metering his views, and that the huit of his labours was the asenlattots beton, the House. Wish respect to hit Wen opinioae spin .he subject of 11-I rat, be shoold wish so sea, its the fir., place, tie eleviee frosithise Temoved from hortioghs • hose corruptions had been reputed, sari frtin ethers 'rif limited extent, to l•rae end populous towns. lie regarded the abuse of that ffanclsko In the same light in *hick he should view the abuse Al soy vs Ire efootis , tos is-sal fenction. The House moulder,* d., i 4 duty, if left power in the hands . f those •hesedelingoency had beets proved. That far mould he p its the improvement of the Borough it-- presestatioe : but the shorteniog of the oloretien of Parliament appeeted to him to he a measure thee would have w salutary effect is identifying tle feel- Jags of the Coariteent end the Representative; it would tree to raise the House in the public estima tion., sasl to pet es end to that ailments which had been so ohne observed its their conduct at the begin. Ding sad as she doss of a Pat Hainaut. The frequent mummer of Elections, which was mach dreaded by essay persons in that linos., he thought wield be highly beneficial. He considered the noise mod to. melt of a popular Election so excellent ordeal for a Candidate in go throegh.-( .4 Icragh from She Mlfsi sterrs/ side) lie knew the meaning of the leash from the Getitlemen opposite, het still be meet declare his preference of Tiienuial Parliaments sod esed-bespoi. tared Ciedidates, sea Right Hon.Geot.(Mt.Connitig) bed on a former occasion described him. The Right lion Geist., perhaps, might not be ignorant of such a thing existing; sod if it were recruit,' hequeotly, it would not tie improper that a Member should here such a memento of the restentmeot of his constiteentg. Ii" dud not consider Helots to be that grand panacea %Welt the Hon. Beeeoet seemed to thick it. He hose the People bad bees leoght to believe that Reform totoptised all that was worth pining; that it **told make provisions cheep, and reduce the espence of len proceedings ; is, short, that It would enable es, as leafiest laid, 4 . , to wear woollen clothes, cod davit no water."—(A lereck )—lle celtsinly di•' not anticipate such comegatmce‘ from Parliamentary Reform ; bat at the Minn time be believed It would bare the good elect of giving the People whet in Air opinion (and he was sorry to sly it) floi did not at present possess—reliaacti nn their toilets. lie had addressed the floes, in Ibis wally stage of the debate, because there was much in the 110. utterable Baronet's spireth that he approved of, soli because he thooght the best way of attaining the object In view was to unite the friend. of Reform. lie knew he had ',merited to himself a tilllicult talk, which, 'hitless, be hoped be bad esacstod in as intelligible ensouer—namely, to draw between him. self sod Radical Reformers a wider distinction than 'misted between any other two clews of politicians. Wbilever 'reception the present preposition might soot with, he mast Cllll4 ter that Rosso Me trite Rt.- presentative of the People, and the (bird branch, of tire Legisietere; and be shield be sorry If, isa the harry and host of debat►, he bail uttered any r►mark derogatory from tho respect which he shield ever eatertain for that Rneve. Mr GRENFPLLseid. he was Ant of thew, end he believed they constituted • great majority, who' atm in the medial elect. of the present itoprese Sallee Syr-m, espc't reel, practical, and oritslanlial coed. H. most also he permitted to tat , that he worsted faith in the political wisdom, aid perhaps iw the snood discretion, df the stlvectitee for Palls. meetary ROOM. If their object mem este within their grasp, so gnat wu•ld he their seal to effect it, that they woold he reckless of cortmgeences; aid the only gent' likely to result would be, That .they had be►n showed to try as •ap-siinent of what they erroneously believed—namely, that they were able to giro es something better than the present slated. Let it not, however, be 'Spew' to him, 111141 this mos so (hop's. system for which homes an aka cafe, and t►at he did sot believe it I. partake of those imperfections to which ell other sostltelleol were liable, and in which real thing earthly Most participate. He had long thought that the ialleence at she Crown in 'het West, particularly as far as Parliamentary Reform was eakeened, was too great, sad that greet good woad rush frogs its being di. Washed. le certain It-soleticns submitted to that Wove in the year 1790, by the lice Lord Ashber. too, it was stated, teat " the intluence of the Cows hsd ineressed. »as increasing, and ought to be dimi. ..heal"—Tbe lion. Member then proceeded brevity to contrast the present situation of be country with ha situation in 1790. The National Debt had 'tweeted nearly ive•fold; the revenue, that was to say, the tesstroo, bad increased in a still greater proportion than the debt, because it was re. coked to meet the Ingress, of the Civil, end l ite wag still more sorry to say, of the Military Eslahlithnients of the counts,; bet the meet seri. ors eu•isider•tlun was, that the machinery resorted to in order to collect that reveitee, the Crow" pa tronage, had increased in the same proportion. That patronage had planted itself in parts of the country where it bad sever before been known, and had spread itself like a torrent over sit the kingdom.—lf he, who, in 1790, thought ihr indolence of the Croats I too great, were to contemplate its present magnitude, mast he net think that it now bore down the country with a weight ten.fold increased ? Another circem stance connected with Partimmetvary Reform had shack his mind many years back, and had made him cling withadditiondpsg.raessto the present sy eosin he meant the fetal wait of caveat' and essenimity among the Reformers themselves. He confessed that, incept among one class of the Redo et Reformers, he bad never met wish three persons, even Of those who visually acted with himself, that understood each ocher's glees on the 'object. The only, point on a hid they 'greed, was the propriety of appoint. inig a Cointoirsee: when he hod entreated his friends •to state how Reform was to be obtained, sod what 'ahem were toes corrected, they had slog.' said, Go into a Committee, end then you will find whet abusers Wet, and how they erg to be refrireted."- 1 1 Bet he for one walla n• VOr consent is' gelato a Cam. mittre, until 'hit~ had at agreed on tinier points.— ' II• should ther►fore conclude by declares( his hearty dissent from the motion of the Hots. Baronet, and that dissent he could not mark hater than by movistg as an amendment," That t►e other Orders of Melly be now read." Tug diiiginal poetise and ifs* amendment were then pot from thri choir. ' Mr. it. 11. GUHYItY spoke at length against the practice of visieuriiiig .h. Elective Franchise of corropt !swanks to oho ovijaernt hundreds; and represented this system as productive of olio worst consequences. !fore Ili* &bele was inter, op' (41 by • Message from the Lards,aegeaiutisgtheHoe.thee their Lordships hid agreed to several Hills, far which sea oar report 'of illy proceedings in the Muse of Lards. Sir itoueqf WILSON thought the only objec. 'ion that could be made to the amino of his lion. Vriend, the Wnrihy Baronet. was, that it had been breath, forward ate time when many Members were absent, from a perieesion that no be , iness of import. IWO would canoe on at so late. period of the Session. The moderate-Reformers, es they bad been celled, bet whom he silioeld call the Economists, were desi rous of arriving at their object by • circuitous, and what they conindered • more crrtain road than that estibh the real Reformer, pursued. They had, how. seer, from recent experience, the Owens of judging how for their plane of economy were likely In he successful; they had been repelled in their attecks on every deparimeht of Goveressent Into which they bad attempted to intrridece retrenchment. — Of the Members which composed that Rouse, nearly 300 were nominated by Peers. and 18t by Con. wooers. leaving only the mall balance of 171 Mem bers returned by the mirages of the Paolo. The lion. Member himself (Mr. Grenfell), win opposed the motion, bed, i.s complaining of the lumens of our present taxation, stated • reason which shooed thou necessity of a remedy ; and that a was con. firmed by the distress which prevailed et Carlisle, and in other parts of the country. to reference to the elass of Anti.ltigorniers, who said they would not connivance Reform till a specific plan was pro posed, the Gallant General • remarked, that such plans had been submitted to the House on several on. CalliOAS by different fifilasbers. Ile had himself proposed ..n a former occasion • specific plan of Parliamentary Reform, which seemed now to he rare generally sp. proud of than it had Wu at the time he brevet it forward But lrhateeer Crendstion might b- fail for Reform. and however potently the *mod classes of Anti. Reformers might approve of the MR. ptiosci plug it wet% impesilble to erect any directore that ohnold satisfy an men, discordant wile,. One world say the building was toe Gothic, another that It was too Grecian, a third would think it too ancient, end a (north lined pronounce it too modern.— It would be like the rem of the onfortanate eel trier. who, while andisigoing the operation of logging, called out to the drummer, 66 You girdle foe high ; now you strike too low ; 016 , do'nt atilt, in the middle."—(A laugh )—The Hen. Baronet had not presented any plan, end in so dating 10. bad COhforlaPsi to the constant usage of the Hesse In similar eases, and ed • greater _oppose thee he could in the first instance base' obtained for any speriir plan. If a Committee Vivre appelatt.d, it would of room have mines plans submitted to il, sore for Triennial Parliament, and Household Suf fuse, tome for Mr. Pitt', plan, and some for the Doke of Richmond's, and the Committee world adopt the roost beneficial. Ile, for one, was for Trlennial Parliaments and Household Self/age; but if the Committee were only to restore Triennial Par filltrents, their labour. would not be dor .on assay. Thal would form a step in the progress of Reform, and facilitate Oa advance tea fall Representation of the People. which rottefifvfod the only limits of Reform, soles, the t..trettelblift of the hymen mind was alto gether without foundation. He appealed le the II"• 64, .Maher they aloe, would ',card with ind.desence Usei sufferings and the wishes of the P•nolt. Let them n. t have it seed of them, Medlar dons , pones psi sun hosnines in ndrerits non carman, entre. Ile 'flail.' that the House would tort persist in maintaining a pulps = bey ref it sod a pernirines system of Representation, bat world me the wisdom of acting upon the great Mr. Locke's recommendation, with which he should conclude his oblervations:—" If," says Mr. Lacks, 6 - the Eitecurive, who booth. power of coagulant the Legislative, observing rather the tree proportion than lesbian of representation, regulates, net by old cams lam bot . by true reason, the member of Membets is. ell places that have a right to be ilkoioctly enumerat ed, which no part of the People, however imorpos retest, can {mimed to, but to proportion to the assists once which it •Ifords to the Public; It earnest be judged to have set op a stew Legislative, but to have restored the old and tree one, and to have rectified the disorders, shish toccrosion of time had iesensioly, as well as inevitably, Introduced. Fear It being 'be in. tern) as well as intention of the People to base a fair and equal Representative, wh brings It tamest to thy, is an undoubted friend to, and ewes blither of the Government, anti counts( miss the coos sent and approbation of the comasonity."—llleer, hear !) Mr. WILMOT conceived thauhe lion. Batt. lad other la. lives in introdeclog the motion than had bee. stated, at least it appeared to him that it was ceertaistent with Meetioge that were held, which he I considered of a seditious toodeory. It was upon Decisions sorb as dots that the Pimple Were tooght to believe that their distress arose hone a tyrannical Ad ministration. an t floes what the Hon. Bartreet bed been pleased to sty le ,he pt insjetilies of that Noose. Ile would ask she Was. ethos they elm- I sideted the someroos *objects with which the Hon.l Ball. had sledded his speech, whether it was possi- ! hie that Triennial Parliaments and Household Soft- ' rage would remote those grievances, and perncolatly 'the delays is. Cootie of Justice. If the Reform coo- limpid/4 could be carried Into effect, it' would Iwo Revolution, anti although some persons might lid it convenient, he thought much greater inconveniences would by *theca be sustained. Ile should agree with that species of Retinae that declared every hermits to be disfranchised when bribery should he pr..sad so have been practised. But the Ilanourshle Bart. had said, that the represented and the Representative ens dogwood each ether well, to that even in this case their good understanding could not be improved.— The Hon. Hitt. bad retested to those parts of our history, with the slew of showing, this the condition of the lower classes was better than at the present, let times when the poor were treated title better than beasts, and transferred from one master to antolker. Could the Hon Member bring one instance to prove, that at any period a greater portion of liberty bad been enjoyed than et the present ? Does be remem ber the lanyosge used towards the populace in the reign of Richard li. after the death of Wat Tyler— Vst'feai fouler, 'Went manebitis, non at tendenrs, red Man natures P At that time they were viewed by the Heise of Commons with the utmost indigoes 'lots and contempt. He felt justified in declaring, that the lion. Bert. bail nut made out hi, case, that less portion of liberty leap now enjoyed by the Pro -pie than forinetly. Most Honourable Members no doubt recollected the Societies formed in 1791 mod 1795 ; the plans there laid down were much snore rational. Bolingbroke, Is his Dissertation on Pee -1 ties, when alluding to the remedy fur the imperfect 'state of the Repretentation, recommended raising the qualifications, as wee theme in the time of Henry VI. sad thus Omer the Einar, F.snebise so the hands of 'tetanus who, by their education soolindependence, would rioters such Representatives as might merit , their confidence. He understood, that if the motion of the lion. Bart. should be agreed to, that all the promised advantage* would be obtained ; hot as he did ant believe such wosid be Ike effects he could not coolant to subscribe to the declaration. A great part of thediScolties be hoped would be removed early la 1 the nett Semler, by a reformation of the Poor Laws; ! he thought leo, merhinad might be effected by an ens couragemeet to emigratios, sot by sending out armed • Men to South America, hat by establishing colonies, which would at the same tittle improve me commerce of the coostry. In any rational metbod to relieve the sufferings of the poor, gene reeved be more needy to co-npatate then himself. If be could tee any roes sortable plan to accomplish Parkomentsty Reforma• tins, he should wish se give it attention : bet doting the last mettle years be kw] bat tact with any 'lost could be adopted by a reesonabi• mass. Dr. J 0411900 bad said, " Thee the head that could not raise a hovel might destroy a police." For the regime no bed assigned he shoot(' protest easiest Woe primal motion, and conclude in the burgess' of Me. res. "That they bad higher duties to perform dean tbe mere wishes of their Constitomoi, they bad ors geoid the taw., and net to invade them, a,ial to c onsider I that tb4 fleas of the People were baited as well as them of the tavereign." He f.•t ti, of• p05i.6..1 in not votive for she Mellen of the Hen. (fart. because he did not think Perdsvoirstiere Reform td be It panacea for the diet... lea of the coontry. Mr. Aldermen WOOD sepp•irted - the motion. Mr. WI ILIA MS .aid, true his opinions spot, this ',eject *roe sell kno•is. It was Lit 6'm and con scientious conviction, that on a Ref-rm of that Hasse depenetod t he motility of the Conati.•ti.to rim, the isoppinevt of the People.—[Heer, hear h. 4n„ Member litho hid spoken third in t e .1-hate had steed that mach good bed been deriv.d from the West/ of Commons as now constituted. Thu. wee intlispotable. It vies impossible oh •1 an .14embit of Goartemen„ howe.., soi..etrd, error! and take part in legislation in the prtweet age, without thong much good Bet the giarevi.•o wort.. t, cite vie not /Write greeter g.,ad from The Honnurahle Member to *nom he 'tad P I tiled bad, tor the IS years that he bad sat in Ihit 111••itor, been le uniform oppcsilion to the nomaere. *kith it iteuetioned. If the Howse bad congelopri the good of that rostit , y, it Will 1111.11 t oefetten..e fit, the H o n ou rable Member to have beet emit rods op. posed to the good of his tomtit.—Meers 1 — If he bad thought it eattessery, he coal.' halte come sloppived to specify many rrticelar queetioes shirk bed town derided ny th a t linage, sled the »woken *kirk rliiidrol upon the., het one'lestene• he could slate Cots memory, in which a deferrerl vault meld have been a great good. A stolen had been mead immediately alter the wive for maintaining • lergo rending 'rel. Particular gaud world have bre, gel by defeating this metier.. It sal Curried by thee, to two. Bel if all .be Mentina4 for boriatighe respiring Reform wire struck vat ..t the number; the proportion would be sod, end the mo tion for the large standing army solid be supported by two to three. He would ask, was too thi County Represen.atioe more per. that the Repro. sentation of Peoryn, Granipnund, and Bassistapla —(Deer, Ater!)—There never had been a epiet.ioa In which the feelings and happiness of Engliabniei WNW mute concerned then in the qee•tion pyreting • Standing Army. When the P•ople were roused Into salon, they were Meat a sullirient to repel an, Invasion ; and, therefore, a Standing Army, to a free People, end enlivened, as we are, by the eve, sea , quite wow . Thus, then, it appeared, that tab feeling of the Worse would have been mere in mei. son with thole of the People, if the Represestallos were uncorrepted. He ale aye entertained the pro. foundost veneration for our CoWSlitillioti, bet he was fully censincetl that its stability depend..' open the purity of that Howse If that Homo. degenerate& We a Nominative Senate, wherein did it differ from the hese instrument of oppression in toe heoda of as {widen' Devnt, now se more, of , c, h ail carried desew lotion end rapine to the remota,' cont... throe/Oar not Europe? Ile had had a Nominative Senile, bet if be had had s Representative Assembly, he mild not hove oceaaloned so mach mircidef It appeared mat his Majesty's Miniltets did net consider any arguments spun this erivotion, worthy of a reply from them A Right Gentleman (Mr. Canning) bed wished that Gentlemen on olds side of the Hoes. ones touched with the *pw of troth. He wished the spear of troth to be applimi to Neil borough in the king. dom. If it rape, obey would state forth to the dullest view is ell their emir. Mieuesnesi -- [Cheer,]—Then would the Peery eta, rempoetids, and Barnsteples, be melltplied ibrooghout the kink doe, disgusting to *eery Member of that Hoes* as well es in Perry indiasdual in the country.—[, decd cheering 3—lf • Committee were eppoieted to en. quire into this subject, nothing but shut was be. ileitis! could result from Its tabours.—As • friend to his country, as an enemy of corruption, es en admirer of the Cmastitotion, as en Esaglieliw man, as a lover of his King, he believed Reform be essential to the prosperit, if the natiow. He did not believe that the influence of the Crown _bad se erralNl since I7Bo.—iflcer !]— It bed one, beam so low as in the pre..et times. Bat the inleence of the Government had encreased If the Crown should take an Adminisiratine not acceptable to those who held boreoghs, that Administration could not stand. An hastens bad recurred not long since, which ;proved that the Crows was coairolled by the holders of boroughs ---cGreal cheering.) • Mr. GRKNI ELI. espiained. He was friendly kte the throw lig open of corrept boroughs, and eaten& ing the elective (molds. to the hundreds, or trials forting it to she definite coquilles. Mr. Aldermen WAI ramAN reppurlllol the mew lien. The People had been thought incapable of judging for thernstritea, end indeed eaworthy to bs consulted epos any subject, however it might affect their own islerests. la owe respect he (Mr. Weith• mu) had lbs advantage of most at the Hon. Mete. Isere pretest ; for, kowever inferior be might be la talent or in knowledge upon most sehjectr, he had this superiority at IMO of knowing th.• real toed* Montt of • great portion of the British P t. Its bed csavellsed many thaseaends of them, and bad 1 vu. viably found a Spirit prevail among then. 14 roulahie to Parliamentary Reform. li e vtilert ineil getstion•llhil of a similar nature, and he had no difficul-y so say. ing, that had be lint papostwd that cause, tee hare had a seat in that tins., —(4ll4eg;o— therefore, that She People had a right to be consulted, end that it weld be unwl.4l to dissppsint their hopes, as a mere wittier of ;poi.) the Herm ought net to aspirate, without agreeing to I Ilse present mutton—a Motion •birb pledged the Beam to the adoption of no lodic plat...bet merely in take the gri • of the People into enevlderati g. What had Ministers done to *Belisle lhr.r belferinga ? In order to quiet them far the moment, the Cosecellor of the Escheqwee 'bed thrown set some hints of 'crummy It eat, indeed, a very loos lime before even 'tot was IPS. totted, but how had it been folio•millop?—Ba the imposition of fresh burdens; and it ors bat tee oh ',loin fur what prises* 14it tplrri of economy wee !pot on—to WCf down the Mr...teat the Preppie meet• mares the moat impels' shif t which .the. wise would nbt have wan swallowed. Tbe Hon. Member opposite (Mr. Wilmot), who had displayed se mooch shake, sod oho, if be hid rood hls Wools io ate rause if iisftrro., iettold have .4 Cat a very formoteb'e pee wee" — [ d &ugh] —had at some length cltrd the ! b °lllll:6l4sg erere I sof a i a t t was a F its. s owl:T i t. w t. ( W th:t i S'a'vants. :to ) s li a ll. the e : l e l Wake IMO net booed to Cosily with ill ibe le. 4