The Statesman. — London, England, 1818-02-03 00:00:00

- . ‘54.t. • • l.`e, •• ewe sad the only means for the people to obtain their rights *as by resorting to some other measuri. , .. • The town of Derby, he hoped, would imitate the example which was set by other towns, and he expected that its inhabitants would come forward like• men sad demand their liberties. lie threw told .mater on A ll he (Oliver) said. To all this he (Mr. Cliff) Teplied that the plain proposed din 'not accord with his views upon the subjeet, that he had no idea that the iulkahitants.of the town n: Derby were pre. pared 'to act in trey suCh manner, ark•that abase w h o were in favour of Partiambotary ilefaitaliwevis found &Ally of the poorer classes. Oliver strelogly vet-unintended him to Ilse his inflwentte :temeng the other inhabitants of the town,' and-ito -urge them forward to a sense of their •doty,, to'•take up arms and to do his utmost to drive away whet Ise ratted the caterpillars of the State. This was all that passed on this occasion, and he went hOme to his work. Ott the 18th. June, at one o'clock in the tootling, while he was in bed and asleep, he was awakened by a loud knocking at the door. He 'asked who was there, but the only, reply be could get, was, 66 open the door." He dressed himielf as quickly as he was able, came down, aed as moon as he Lad unfastened the door three men rushed irs, one of %honk was a constable of Drrhy, a watchman of the night, and a person he believed of the name of Wit Hanks. He asked what they_ canted, and one of_ them replied, 66 You must go aloft with me to Lon don, Lord Sidmouth wants to speak to you."— tA another interrogatory put, this was the only answer he could obtain. The constable wept up into . ..is bed-room while his wife was nearly naked, end ri.:sacked every drdwe , and cupboard saline he could find any papers.—(Cries elf shume!)— Froin his house he was forcibly taken to the county jail, and after having remained there a short time he was chained hand and fe..l to a fellow-prisoner of the riamh of ii,rton.—(l mul cries of shame!) — lie was put into a chaise, cart kd to London, and remained a whole day in a public room for public show, (heti ' , ided with chains like a felon. At night the officer,: intik off the chains from his triton prisoner aed himse4, and suffered cnla to get into ! ; hut Lamediately tLey were laid down the chains were again put rt. and tous they were obliged to sleep, or rather at tempt to sleep. during the w hole night, chained bands and feet t o4 ether.—(Loud nail reiterated cries o Aflame, shame !)—Io the morning the eludes were 'taken of, ..ad havini; dressed themselves. he chains were again put on. :span after they were tarried before Lard Sirimauth ; and he (Mr. Cliff) defied his Lordship to bring any charge against him, and protested his in nocence. Ills Lordship replied that he should have a fair t-ial, tied declared that his evidence came from a most respectable aware- t loud laughter)—and that he was accused of having committed !reasonable acts. lie was then ordered •down to Cleueester, after baying remained a few days at Cold Bath. fields pt imn, and was pat into a cold, damp, and filtav cell, frotn which a nun defer had been taken to make rmiin tor him.— the I.2th July he wrote a letter to Lord Sulmouth. cote plajaing of 016 treatment, informing him of the manner of his imprivoimient, representing the hardship of his ease. and earnestly requesting either to be brought to trial, or to be more comfortably situated in the prison. To this letter no answer was received. %%bile he had been thus confine') he had lit a trade by vi hich be had obtained a good livelihood ; his looms had been taken away, and his wife and family had beets obliged to live upon the small pittance allowed by the prwish of cis. per week. He had agreed to ether into a recognizance, but it was nut tinder a sense of is guilt that he had sigued it, for he knew himself to be innocent; but he was induced by the entreaties of a starving vire and family. Having stated thus much, he thought he had said enough to show that his treatment bad been snore like that of a beast than a human being. In a Petition which lie intended to present to the House of Commons, he should disclose a few more facts relative to this pretended dele gate Oliver (This address produced a very strong and universal sensation upon the Meetiug, and Mr. Cliff was greeted with loud huzzas by the COMpony.) _ Sir FRANCIS BURDETT said, that after • the simple but eloquent appeals made to the Company, it was unnecessary to take up their time any longer, or by any further remarks, than to impress on all their minds the necessity of contributing to the relief of these who had suffered such atrocious injuries, and who could obtain no indemnification from their op pressors. It was still less nes-essiry for him to sas any thing now, as he should shortly be confronted with those oppressors in atihrlier place, and tell them to their feces what their conduct had been. Tho Resolutions were .hen read and carried tics: tiimovsly. Si: I. rancis Burdett - - Xlils 0 l.urd Cochrane - - 105 :‘ Alr. Jones Burdett - - 50 0 The Liberty of the Press, and a Fig for all Oppressors . b 5 All the Morey lie has got - . 2 0 The Mark Dwarf . - - % ? Nust.,..-ion t.• tlir Stol , enders • . i I No Indemnity Ilili to ! ,,, , judice Justice A 1 1 Oo.• ,•,..o thinks for Lis coulatt.)!iell . - 5 5 Nay the son no er rise cou a tr.litt, nor descend on a slave 5' U As soon as Mr. Cleary had done reading the Sub scriceions received, !here was a general call of •t Thanks to the Chairman." Woot.ca, in moving the thanks to Sir F Burdett, Bart., observed, that his conduct had been such as to set at deliasoce at (lace the machinations ct treacherous friends—( Great' applause)— and the at tacks of open enemies. This Motion was ro;ceived with every demonstration of cordial approbation. BURDLTT, io returning thanks, said that he felt the highest satisfaction in receiving the approba tion of so great awl so respectable ti number of his countrymen. lie was not an old . roan, yet he be llowed' these was not now allay a man who had be en Ibtiger in the public eye than himself. Ile had often eddrissed'his countrymen. en public occasions, as at present; he had often expressed his sentiments by means of the Press. lle might be charged with teme. City in °tering, such a challenge, but he did challenge any man to find in any thing he had ever said or written since his first appearance in public to the 'Moment then he was no* addressing them, twO sentences inconsistent with ono another..—( Long continued shouts of tpplaure.)—}le was sure he only anticipat , d what he should otherwise be called upon to do, when he proposed their thanks to his Noble Colleape (Lord Cochrane) on the ame ground on which they had been given to him. The thanks were next voted to Lord COCHRANE. in'his address of acknowledgmetot, the Noble Lord . declined that he unequivocilly approved of the cots.. l duct of his Honourable Colleague, Sir F. Bardett, excepting on one or two occasions, %heti he lrlieved the difference arose fro:i. a misconception on his own part —(Great cpplausc); that he should constantly imitate the same, and tread in his steps. The coin pany gave three cheers and dispersed. A great quantity of silver .and Batik notes were collected at the door. The Subscription amounts al seedy to upwards of 5001. A more harmonious Meeting was never witnessed,. nor one more numerously attended. The recital Of those cruelties exercised on the unhappy victims of the Suspension Act, made an impression on Cie mind of every person which will not be soon eiracaa' 4` ,- s' :'S . • . . IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. • • 1 IFOUSIR OF I.OROS, Fre. 2. ok Mien from the Commissioners lie the Redne tjen of.itteNatioual Debt presented.the Annual Ac counts. • ' t • • CLIItiC OF PARLIAMENT. Earl GROtiVENOIt rose to enquire, whetter any Alum had, been done in consequence of what passed (milt% Grit day of the Session,.on sohj.•et of the; 'lppointrnt:it, by reversioo, to the office of Clerk of Parnin4a, r 'lt was" his intention to move for an iAtcduni drill' Offices held by Grants in Reversion. "The Eel! , of LI V ERPOOLosaid, that the Com• mittee to which• the Patera granting the Reversion was to be referred, would have several objects sub mitted to its consideration, ti.e investigation of which mighloccupy some time. It was, however, his in tention, in the course of the present Session, to pro.• pose, relative to the office of Clerk in Parliament, some Legislative measures which would operate pro spectively. To fulfil this intention, a Bill would be necrissory, which he shout., introduce. • The Earl of LAUDERrAI.E.—The object his tcoble Friend had in view wag to render the office of Clerlean efficient office. In that respect the motion had his approbation. Earl GROSVENOR wished an encioiry to he in stituted into the nature of all offices which were granted in revernien, and would he glad to obtain an official account of their salaries and ineir duties. He did not know ow far the Nottle Lord meant his measure should extend, hut he apprebended he did not intend to go the length of abolishing the office of Clerk' of Parliament. Nothing more strikingly showed the impropriety of granting offices in refer. sion than what had occurred with respect to that at present under consideration. He was persuaded, that the Gentleman wno lately held the office of Clerk of Parliament would newer have asked the re version for his son, could he have foreseen that that sop' would have titled the situation of, Ambassador to a Foreign Court ar the time that the duties of his office as Clerk of Parliemeut required his presence in that House. It was his intention to, propose the ebniiiion of the practice of granting places in reser. sion, and that the abolition should be extended not only to grants from the Crown, but to those made by the Judges, 'and inueed to grants• in reversion of every desurivion connected sith the public service or the i. , itit , •tior.s of the coontre. In the meantime he moved an Address to the Prince Regent, praying th t he would order to be laid before the [louse an Account of all Grants in Reversion of Offices held immediately from the Cicwit, and also all Grants in Revers of other Public Offices. The Earl of LIVERPOOL objected to the, gene. rat nature of the motion. If the Noble Earl con. fined it to those offices held under the Crown, he should be ready to agree to it. The LORD CHANCELLOR thought the Noble Earl might divide his Motion, if he continued of opinion that he ought to call for information as to both species of offices. For his own part, he had on a former occasion stated his sentiments to the House on this question, and he still continued of the same opinion as to the utility of the offices referred to in the latter part of ,h. motion, : The Earl of LAUDERDALE could not see any ' necessity for his Noble Friend pressing his motion ill its present sh ►pe, nor could he understand the mo• Gee of the Noble Earl opposite in rejecting it, as the information asked for was in fact already before the House. At all events, he thotight it would not be necessary for his Noble Friend to adhere to his targe million, and, therefore, recammended it to him to divide it. _ _ , The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he should be very welt pleased to see a statement of all grants in reversion laid before their Lordships, and probably .hould himself shape a motion calculated to attain ihat object. His opinion with regard to offices 4 ranted by the Judges, as he had already intimated; remained unaltered. Many offices formerly bestowed 1,• the Chancellor were now in the gift of the :Town ; but with regard to the Judges in the other Courts, the power of giving those offices was twee,. iry, as a part of their cniolumebts arose from those jrtc. Were it not fur this, the incomes of the Judges would be totally inadequate to the fabnriuos sod importniit duties they had to perform. When he subject was last 'before the ilouse, he had con vinced their Lordships of the utility of the offices in the gift of the Judges as well as of others or a simi lar net". ; and he had no doubt he should be'equally successful when the question came again before them. Hebert, however, no objection to an account of all grants in•revenien by the Crown being laid before their Lordships; and when it was produced, he should, perhaps, think it right to call for an ac count of all landed property, held in virtue of grants from the Crown,. previously to the Act passed -re specting these grants. • Earl GROSVENOR said, that all that had oc. curved aince the subject was last discussed had only tended to fortify him in his opinion, that nothing coold be more injurious to the interests of the Pub lic than granting Offices in Reversion. In saying this he by no meat. meant to suggest,that he thought the 'Noble and Learned Lord, or any of the Judges, were overpaid for their services. What 'he objected to was not the amount of their emoluments, but the mode in which they were obtained. With regard to the motion, we undersotod the Noble Earl to intimate his readiness to divide it, and to press, for the present only,ithe first part relative to Grants from the Crown. The motion, thus altered, was put and agreed to. PAPERS ON TILE STATE OF THE COUNTRY. Lord SIDMO(JTII said, he had now, in com pliance with the commands of the Prince Regent, to lay before their Lordships certaln••Papers relative -to the State of the Country. It was his intention to have that night moved that these Papers should be referred to a Secret Committee ; but he was induced to postpone the ezecutiun of that intention, as two Noble Lords (the Marquis of Lansdowne and Lord lio)land) who wished to be, present, were prevOnted from attending by a melancholy occurrence (the death of the Earl of Upper Ossnry). We under stood, however, that one of these Noble Lords (the Marquis of Lansdowne) might be expected to attend to-morrow. 11: would ; therefore, on that day move for the appointment of a Committee. In the men' time he moved that tore Lords be summoned for toe rooms. Ordered.— Adjourned. 14.1 t STATESMAN. ,- _ ~-- ~ • V -7--T ~(! r! • . • • 1- bit adopted Of rger corps, id to their own Angt”ta, the the Doke of • ire perfecting; • : 1 -• F . fieryal ffigtrw' • • or at. • oirraldr dg fhe Royal' tathut_lkx ILL afford tin- men. OftDDII. . 9.-3.1. 6. . L. ; .. of. Count Lat . arrival in out -4 by a Prussian r pieced wader ta him ea sty. las auffered so ice), bet evert al the enqui— el the discovery st M. Las Ca: 'rune in. Euli• very name of ;ses himself to • L cease to • baslt beet, 'how the more: Iritish Covers- it gave him, it, ;yeast:fee; indi.. . I; prated. It IA Naprteoti is ulna of pnliti- s l' :ass greatly thstaudiug the entry, in order • d to obtain for • *bete he i 3 to • S. P Now Yotit of the gur.. s of the Unitak sing: Tint FROM THII • lIIE .t; tt RENDSII4 , n IRI7. s) nr oqiceil letter Of the G.:vern.' tl US to ev.tcuetu • • y command, es • I !scion thereof is. • ,; :ernmand, undo, rid letter. • drake, nor *fix. with the United ',at the contents i • ioverumort and • i nevertheless, • escenre in ythir evacuate this s been a part of ;ontiemen, tied by the force of= ssession of silt and to this day. the risk of our ioridas and the ed on the 27th ascertain your, concern.. we reflect that, lied by the Go. 'IVeCt. glory in. • or small, and. it Southern bre. ',dependence if United States 40 , P to hold sacred !ably belongs to 4 e in that case ? no means chine urce of the ricer this side of the in too mach ye- Lament that you Os Island, which Spain, or by its can bring with • upon this quit.. • in your behalf -ignant to a Re- • incipies of a just ,ervatton stray be ' property.of the spected and coo- were subject, of Shen Fernandina r that Wet found •iirectly contrary . • • lic property cap.. - •vr. -%-.10z7 • HOUSE OF COMMONS. There bPing only thirty.fire Members .present at four o'clock, there was no House.—Adjourned till to-morrow. COURT' 11111 COMMON COUNCIL. Yesterday a Court of Common Ceoncil 'wes held at Guildhall, for the dispatch of general busi, , ess, which was folly attended. The following was the truly interesting business before the Court : CITY PRISONS. Mr. PAVELL, is 'one of the Special Committee ap pointed by the Court, rose to present the Report with regard to the increased espences of the Jails of this City. Mr. WAITIDIAN said, 'he was peifectly satisfied that the Committee had done all in tlieir power tO. give effect to the purpose for which it hail been form ed. This was, if possible, to counteract the increased and increasing expenditure of the Corporation of the' City of London. The waste of money Trued away from titne to time wes most serious. lie had himself beed in situations where he was compelled to vole almost. against his conscience ; for instance, I,tthecaseof pre. senting a sword, where the consideration was matter of compliment, but the opposing of which N ould be a mark of contempt. lie considered that the parties who were too ready to propose such votes were most to blame. But here should be told that bi had himself once proposed the application of uo less than 2,0001. from the funds of the Corporation. He admitted this, and took credit to himself for it on more than one ground. The year 1814, it would be remembered. was one of severe public calamity and distress. At that period the sufferings of a foreign People were held forth to their commiser•.ti"n, and a grant of 1,0001. was proposed to invaded Russia. i his it was which iudaced him to make the proposal he did, and l ir he could'oot counteract the vote made for the Res. slant, to prove r t lea,t that we should be" just be (ore we were generous," and in the first instance re lieve our own starring and distressed countrymen.— (//eur!)—Mr. Weithinan next entered into a review ~ t the vario..s items of expenditure alluded to in the Report, and dwelt particularly on the alarming ea pence iocurrid in the prison establisoments of i the City. Upon this subject lie thought there was one omission in the Revert, and riat xis, the neglect of censure upon the City Repre sentatives to Parliament, who ought, in their places there, to stand up and boldly dettare the griev ance under which the City of Londio, laboured, in -upporting not only their own, but the prisoners of the county of Middlesex. In bet, it was manliest', test five out of six of the individuals confined in the City *ions were .delioquents from the county of Middlesex.—[Clear, hear !]— But the Corporation were told, that if they applied to Pulliameiit tor re lief, under the circumstances he had stated, they would be opposed—in fact, that their object mud not be obtained. Was this, he would ask, to be en• dared—was the City of London of so little import in -the Legislative eye, that even its claims of justice should• he disregarded ? Would any one dare to tell a Beckford that such claims would he treated wi'h silent contempt ; and ought not the Corporation, therefore, to press boldly forward end demand jus tice? A Bill brought in for the purpose of obtaining the desired assistance, lie thought most proper, hut lie feared the measure would be too late for the preterit Session. Mr. Alderman Woon defended his Parliamentary Colleagues from the imputstion of neglect, as far a s regarded the present question. They had done all in their potter, and were, to . his own knowledge, eatremety anxious that the City should he relieved from its burden, and that Ciiverometit should take that part in the support of county prisoners which they were in justice bound to do. It should he re collecied,however, that the City Representatives were but four voices against nearly the whole of Parlia. stunt. Even those upon whose justice and philan thropy they - might have been led to rely, seemed dis posed to oppose them. The lion. Mr. Grey Bennett, a diptioguistied Member of the !louse, had published a pamphlet (which he Mr. Ald. Wood new held in his hand), which teemed with inis-stutements and contra dictions, upon the subject of the City Prisons. 'llk, though addressed to the Common Council, contained a violent smack upon the Court of Aldermen. With regard to the sufferings of the Corporation, from the management of their prisons, the evil had of late much increased. Formerly, it was riot until a day or two previous to the Sesciosis that the county pri soners neon sent to Newgate to abide their trial. At present, however, upon the final examination of a prisoner, and his commitment following, they were almost invariably sent to Newgate. The same argil• meat would apply to convicts being suffered to re main there for weeks or months after trial. To avert this, when in the Civic Chair himself, when the pri son was literally crammed, and a Session of aree weeks' continuance going forward, he advised with the Recorder as to the expediency of passing see. Mice upon those who had been convictd, and remov ing them to the places appointeed by the Judges • thus the prison was in a great measure cleared, *rut much espence saved. He did not agree with Mr. Waithinan that it was too late to apply to Parlia ment on the subject.—(/leer, hear !) Alderman BIRCH agreed with the worthy Alder man ; and trusted; that in his • piece in the• House of Commons, he weeldiell the Hon. Mr. Bennet of the gross manner in which be had attacked the City of [Andes in his pamphlet, apd of the monstrous incise.... sistencies it contained. After some observations from Mr. JActsi the Re port was agreed to. : '," 11.dMBURGII 31.4114. ~ . • Maus, Jarr.l7.—lt appears by an Official No. • lice, that the amount of the some hitherto paid by France towards the liquidation of the claim; of the Prussian Provinces on the Rhine, is 9,375,864 francs. FRANKFORT, A,.• 1 B.—With respect to the mili tary affairs of the German Confederation, which are now under discussion in the Met, it appears from all that transpires, to be agreed that the Army of Confederation in time of peace shall be very moderate, but Out the War Eatablishment will •be %ery great.; — In tespec. to the Contingents of the leis vovrctful • 1, • - . - • , • • • • itate. It-serial that the principle 4111 Wang !herniate together, to form larger tact a manner as is the beet adapted tr Sittla lion and interests. FLANDERS MAIL. . FRAXKVORT, JAw. 49.... , -The. fats or. Casa% is at length decided. Since his r city, he has constantly guarded, by Cnmmissioner ; he is now guiwg so be the protection of Austria; Which gretita lum in its dominions; but his health hos much, that he is tint only unable to trove his life is thought to be in danger. All ties that have been made hate not Led to I of the least ground for reproach against sus. The uneasiness which his appears' rope has elicited, is explained by the the man whale friend he openly protest be, and who, like Hannibal, will not spire alarm till he ceases to exist. thought Froper otrthe Cnnrinent to sh, signor towards M. Lis Casas as the Br meat was severe in the reception that 7 was to be supposed that such rigorous cated a culpability that was very wel seems 4 however, that his.attachnient t• entirely personal, and wholly indepeni cal reasons. It is affirmed, that M. Las desirea to return to England, ,uotwith, had reception be met with in that cOut to plead the cause of his friend, and him a milder treatment in the country telminate his days. AMERICAN PAPERS. —sex— yesterday given from tl , e Papers to the 11th alt. the particut,i , tet.t!er of Amelia Island to the forces States, we 118,1' 0111 V to add the follO ANswEtt or GEN t.itAL AU/1Y TO A LET' AMERICAN oFPICEUS, DEMANDING TI OT lIERNANDINA " It. Q. Errcandina, " Gentlemen—l have received your of this day, .by Which, in the name of ment of the United States, you summon this place, with the troops under my soon as it will be c,ilivenient, as posse , . to be taken by the forces u n der your cc' certain conditions specified in your svi " Neither this Republic, that yf other of South America, being at war States, obliges me to state to you, tin of ytmiletter greatly surptisen this the people of this State. You hare, intimated, that in case of our acquies, detnand, we shall •be permitted to island, which neither is, nor ever has the United States. " Allow me to observe to you, (3 from the moment we took rertiattdiva our arms, we entered into, the full po the rights appertaining to oer enemy, we have supported these rights, at liies and fortunes, • .• ifoCovot o JAN. "19.—The Princ - ess incanted bride of hii Rotel. -Hightreit -Crimbrige, ettipinyi part of irjr thW I. herself in the llngiVsh language. nifliovyrd miss - the Doke left this city yesterhaffor Close) ,'ended by General You 'fink, and Co crivircten. The plan for enlarging and improthag 'Palace haring been approved 0f.by14..11.1), rrels,;. .cerLied iotp, eittCuLiam-14:64. Court oreltitect, Mr. !Ares, which afir ploy ment for a great many poor wnrknien. IIAMBURGII F.XCHANGE ON LOP JAR. 11-95 6.-91: 9 f Ler': 10-99. 16-33. 5.-34, 8..1 23,-stt 44 The boundaries • between. the Fin United States haring been fairly settled Oct. 1795, we are at a toss bow to • authority to interfere in our internal ci " Our surprise increases, ellen your coramanication.comes as authoti vernment of a People who, itythtrrespec the rights of nations, whether great - who, no doubt, sympathise with their titre!' in the struggle for liberty and iu which they are engaged, as were the U years ago. " On the other hand, you promise such of our property as unquestiott, our citizens. Who is to be the judg. The United States? They can by no any kind of jurisdiction, from the sour St. Mary's, down to the Ocean, on centre of the Channel. We entertsin neration to believe for a single taut (supposed already in possission of 'hi has never been ceded by the King of inhabitant*, to the United States) yon a competent tribunal to decide tion. The only law you cin adduce is that of force, which always is rep.i publican Government, and to the pri, and impartial stature. The same ob'ery applied to your interference for the inhabitants, which we have always respected siderea as sacred. • "" You order' as, also, as if we your Govetnetent, to leave behind, ac is evacuated, 'all the public property at itsjorsender. This demand is fit to the public rights, by which public property 4p. tined from the enemy is avowedly that of the cap. tors,' when not otheruise stipulated. Are you acting in the name of the King of Spain ar of his Allies ? As we.coneider the People of the United States to bet unquestionably the only free People ontthe surface of the globe, we cannot admit that . you have already arrived to such a point of degradation. Otherwise, your demandis ioadmiasiile told unjustifiable in the eyes of the world ;—and if we must shbatit to it, all the blame reale with you. 66 Perasit.me, therefore, Gentlemen, to request you to ley before the President of tt.e United States these remarks, iu order that a matter of so serious tendency may be duly concidered. We hare read : his Excellency's Message at iho opening a Congress: with tke utmost 41.1 have c.f,t!:: ;ongresr, A,d c d that . % , - •