The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-08-25 00:00:00

TILE STATESMAN. ;wired to me to turn the Isoiso, because a sculile en sued between thetu and the soldiers, when the latter turned them back again ; at that time of the scuffle . there were no stones or brickbats thrown at the soldierd that I could perceive. I saw no atones thrown until after the firing took place. Witness added, if a shower of stones had been thrown, it would be impossible to count them. I saw none thrown until the firing com menced. he Jury adjourned at this tithe for about 20 minutes is: -seder to take refreshment. Tire Foreman said, that as the fact whether the Riot Act had been read was most material, the hest way, in Lis opinion, of coming to that fact, would be to summon Sir Robert Baker himself. The Coroner agreed to the suggestion. The nest witness sworn was Edward Leath who de posed as follows :—I live at Jewin-street, Cripplegate. I ens a stable-keeper. I saw an'offieer shoot the man. I was in the Ifysle-park at the time, near Kensington-gate arsd the Light Horse barracks. '(here were very few people then, the procession had not come up. * I was there half an hour before the procession cause up. ro:!e up the Park just after an officer, who was like the one that shot the man; he ranked himself, and turned towards the Riding School. I went through the gate into Park-lane, and then rode down Piccadilly. I was then idol sited that the procession was gone into the Park; I tinned it ,id rode back to the top of Park-lane., I stopi.ed these till the procession came down to Cum -1 beriand-gate ; one silk of the gate was fast, and the other opened. There were a few of the Life-guards in- Side the ;. ; ate, ant when the procession came up, both of the at. were i;sstenesl. The soldiers pulled the rates open when the procession cause up, and began to cut away with their swards, and drive the people back ; I sass two so clan essaog rues hit %yids their swords 'at t!.e co( stet, hot 1 - don't know whetiser they were cut or no% proces • passed through, and they still were cu:ting at and driving the people Irons one part of e sts set to the other. As the procession passe. through, I saw one et the Oxford Blues' horses fall by a trip cousieg out of the gate. They still kept driving the people bat% , anil one of them rode up to me, and told sae be would mill use down if I (Ed not go back: lie shook hi:. ssvoral at Inc as I sat on the horse. The officer passed use immediately, and went riding towardsTyburn gate ; he hawed himself half upon his saddle, awl le velled his pistol. I did not see the man fall! I heard the peis i sleery alt, •• You have shot a man." The officer rode in nanongst the soldiers, the other party, and soon after that, they fired several times. The crowd then be gan to throw burl: bats and stones at the soldiers. I rode round the earner of Edgware-road, where I saw one of the Life-g andsl stiap his pistol twice at a man.—The pistol did not go to.f, and I rode on ; the Life-guards tooted oil at she second turning, and I saw no more of them. /ty a Joryilian—l was near enouzli to the officer to he e es.at it was a pistol which was bred, a largish o:se ; I ~tic it in his hand ; I first saw the procession at ; I saw the detachments come out of the bar. ilia:. at Kid:Oast:fridge ; the detachment at the, Hyde. psrk-gatt had not an officer but a corporal. Another detachment in nt on to firosvenor-gate, just by the 1(1. iiii,g.school, at the other side just under the trees; thee stopped there and I wont on to the gate between Idle-park-corner and the Riditig•school ; I passed ts,roligh the gate ; the soldiers stopped under the trees; th.se were not above I Y or 20 soldiers at Stanhope-st.- ife ; I AM almost sure that there was an officer with that i arty ; 1 c sine afterwards to the top of Park-lane, when theirs wine a few soldiers stationed paroling about. As Or, officer ran along before use, he appear ed to be a .4111 man, and just the shape and crake of Or wan that was at Cumberland-gate; I knew him %ore by the horse than the man ; I saw the officer use Ms mid.' before lie used Isis pistol ; I did not see him ▪ his sword, nor draw his pistol from the holster sir an where else, nor return it after he had fired.— His . k was ton ards use at the time; I was within a' out f ant or five yards of the officer when he fired.— As he p.i.:ed use, lie turned half way round, and tired towards Edgrw•are-road ; he was then riding towards Ty lin rat-turnpike. A i•lan wa* here *hewn to the witness, who was re :o point out the situations in which he and the err dat the time ;he shot took place, which be 41:41. Tt.ere was so much difficulty in ascertaining the situation of tb,• parties by this method, that it was re at length to appoint a deputation to accompany the n t 111:Sa to the spot, and there take his explanation. When the Deputation of the Jury and the nitness itturned, the Foreman stated, that the man when on the spot shew•ed the position on which he himself stowl to the St. liiles's side of Cumberland-gate, while this tint , er stood beyond the other side towards Tyburn Ito iipike, and hired with his pistol inclined rather hatios arils towards Cumberland-street, in the direction •,t Lord liagots house. Juror objected to a Gentletnan named tleorge, on count of holding some communication with some of the Jury►nen. 'Else Cormier said that he had no right to speak to any of the Jury, and ought to remove to another part of Ilse room. Witness proceeded—At that time I heard a cry of " a 111.111 is shot," and I saw people running towards th e spot ; a slid not see the man who was shot; I should know the man who fired, again. I think, If I was to se him on a field-day, or accou tred as he was then ; he was a young man, thin, 4.r slender, about twenty or two and three and twenty, toolish face, rather thickest shoat the mouth ; his hair, as far as I could see, rather light, his whiskers were lightest ; I did not hear the Riot Act read at that lime, nor at all ; I saw a gentleman on a military horse ; I asked who he was, and was Wormed he was a Magistrate ; I don't know of my own know ledge whether any Magistrate was present ; the gen tleman rode from Kensington ; rode with us ; I saw the same gentleman ride past me as I was riding on. here ; he spoke to the soldiers, and they rode away n hen be spoke to them. Mr. Damson—When the officer rode past me and fired, be was in a hurry ; he was in a soldier's canter; think his horse was of a bay colour, a darkish bay ; 1 did know him by his horse; I • saw one gate of the Park shut Wore the procession came up, and then the other; I think the crowd shut them. but did sot see them; I saw the scuffle between the people and the soldiers in attempting to open the gates; I did net see the constables assisting the soldiers in attempting to open them ; I don't think I saw them all the whole day ; I saw no stones er brick bats arum at the sol diers at the time in which the sagas bogus; wisest the hearse got through the gates into the road, I saw the postillion totioavoar to taro his Urals towards st. tiilas'a; I was Asa book wiser Parkelaas unease; I d •ftwif • 4.016 . . .. ... rods hack ; t thin!: the people attempted to toin horses down that nay is St. Giles's ; there urre 2 0 or 30 people round them at the time ; I did sot actually see then what the people were dointr of, I was so *far back ; I was then in the street side ; the , peo -ple were all round the horses ; the soldiers rode up di rectly and c+►t aid beat the people back ; I did not see the people turn the horses' heads, hut I ritv the sol dier• ride up and &lye the' people away.—Cllerc some discussion occurred as the opinion of the ta itn-ss re specting the turnin f the horses by the people being evidence or not.)—The hearse was not quite through the gate when the horses began to he turned : I saw verb• few stones or brick hats thrown at that time : af terwards, that is, after the officer bad fired, I saw a great number. A Juror—l heard no firing bef ire I heard the officer Ere. Mr. WA rrtestaN—The offircer roil. past me and then he fired ; I was petty near the gate: when the scaCe took place between the people and the soldiers ; it might be about six yards; as Hear as the corner ; I did not see the officer then ; I saw no stones dying at that time ; I saw the horse of one of the Blues ; the soldier was not lueocked down by a stone or brickbat ; anofher horse put his feet oil the frame of the horse that was down, ale! I thought I should see him rise no more ; I was not hit mysetf with the stones or brick bats, nor did I see the odecer bit. Mr. Alderman Wa • a tem AN—I did not see an.: stone:: at al; thrown before the soldiers began to cut and d. ivr the crowd. I saw a youteg titan struck at by a soldier, and be stooped down untle: the wall, ley which means he escaped—otherwise he would have heen did not see him do any thin to the soleiier. The next tritness teas Thomas It uthet live at ; I am servant to Mr. tietre: I knotv nothing of t;:is procession; I saw of it ; I am what is called Ltunan to Mr. Gore ; it is iny business to keep his horse and accoutrements in or der ; when be goes out tO duty I can tell how lie accoutred ; on the I Ith of August be was accoutred with a sword ; he had a lit leLet,atil the usual uniform of the regiment. It Is mostly usual fur soda officer; going on such duty to take with them; lent he never had a pistol since he jo'neel the regi ment, being such a young officer; I swear oven my oath that he 11411 no pistol of his own or any hotly elke's in his holsters roe the 1 Itli of Aug ust, when he went out or when hr re turned ; I was nut on duty that day ; he has a cloak, but it was not put on that day; Le has been eighteen months ht the regiment ; I don't know whether there is any certain time before an officer is supplied pistols. _ _ _ The Wiiness—Me master was dressed on the 21st in the same u•ay as on the 11th ; lie logs never been shaved A Jurtor—Mv o!•jcct in asking such a ques►ion 1% to ascertain whether he had Whiskers on that day, which were afterwards withdrawn. A J um; --W hat k the colour of your waster's huh ? _Witness. I Flu not know. Juror—ls it light or dark ?—Witness. I never served it. Ilan he any at all :—Witness. Yc•-; but I can not tell the colour • The questioq ►vas repe.lietl, no.' he said it wit', dark. iVhene the Curoner rend his notes to wlttreill; • A Joreer observed, that he had omitted the stateneetet that the officer had nervy been shaved. COI:ON hat has that to do witl the murder of the man ? Mr. WA ITIIM N—it has muds to do with this point, to show what young, unlled s zed boys me scut Illicit such occasions which may endanger the lives of his Majesty's subjects, The examination proceeded—My master has Lys, horses; Ise rode the sauce lat,rse on the I ills and •2lst. The horse he rode is a light bay, his other boric is black. The next witness railed was Christopher Forge, a corporal in the regiment. I was out on duty on the I-Ith ; I was not with the procession when it passed Ifyde Park; I was stationed at Cumberland gate. There were ten privates, two corporals, and a trumpeter in all. I was one Ilf the corporal:. The main body was stationed in Oxfoid-street side ; there were eight there and two file in the Park. There was one corporal include.; in the eight on the Oxford-street side of the gate. The trumpeter was with the officer. In-ide of the gate there were three privates and a Cor poral. The °Slicer who commanded us was Mr. Bore. I was present when the procession came within 20 yards of the gate. The gates were then shut by the crowd. The party I belonged to opened the gates, and cleared the crowd away. A second time the crowd came forward and shut the gates. and we had great difficulty, being obstructed by a parcel of horsemen who formed the procession. Three horsemen were at the Park aisle of the gate. At that time, in opening the gate my horse got his head cut, I du out know by whom ; hut I was obliged to dismount and lead him awes.; I then went towards the magazine ; the foot guards were stationed there, hot I Ira% assailed nit!. stones, &c. by a party who followed me on foot, and was obliged to mount again and juin the foot parch.— I then got assistance to stop the blood, and get the horse's wound bound up. I afterwards went to the Barracks, and saw no more. By the Iroren►an.-1 did not see Mr. Core fire a pis tol that day ; but I heard the report of pistols by the time I got half ►ray to the Magazine; I presu►ue Mr. (lore had not pistols with him that day ; I am certain he had not, neither of his own nor borrowed ; hail no fire arms at all, nor any arms but his sword ; I did not see bin► borrow a pistol front any of his men; it was an omission of his servant, ►rho neglected putting them in. It was at Cumberland-gate when I saw he had no pistols ; I was beside him at the time. Ile said I have no cloak, and I observed he had no pistol. Ile may be 20, hut not 30 ; he is a light man, rather a ruddy complexion ; is a healthy looking young man ; the colour of Isis hair is light; I can't answer whe ther he has whiskers ; I have not noticed ; n►y horse was severely cut, be Med about five quarts; I pre sume be was wounded by a knife, or something of that sort ; I did not observe any person near me with a knife or sharpinstrument ; I will undertake to swear that it was not dune with a sword ; I did not see it done ; how could any one do .it with a sword whets there was no one there who had i sword except the soldiers ? Juror-.-Did yen see say mopes with tie ereord .Witaefs. Ugly brisk-bate and sleeve; l sap saris-, • 41. • •-- -- 71.. -&. fled it was not done by either of them; I do believe! the horse . was eat by a knife or *sonde sharp instru ment; the officers have no covers to their bolsters as I knots. ; it was the fashion formerly, bat they are now generally dune away with; I never knew Lieutenant Gore on duty before without his pistols, or do 1 know that he ever went with them. After an officer is die missed by the Riding Master and Adjutant, he is en- I titled to carry pistols, not before ; 1 have not seen mustachios or whiskers on Irico.tettant Gore ; 1 can't say he shaved them off. He was on parade on the day of the inspection, accoutred as on the 14th, the colour of his horse is a bay, rather a light bay, or a rich bay. Mr. Matson—The first time Cumberland gates were shut, there was a mass of people, I can't say how tnany, for 20 or 30 yards before the procession came, and the mass of the people shut them. I was struck several times with stones and brickbats. I saw some of my comrades struck repeatedly at the same time. We forced the gates open at that time with extreme diffi culty ; the difficulty the second time in forcing them open, was greater than at the first; there was a greater number of horsemen , I saw no constables with staves a.:sisting ; at the. second time there was a throwing of stones and brick bats ; it continually kept on ; when my horse was wounded, I was dismounted, and went to wards the magaiine ; that on the opening of time gates the second time, the occasion of my mounting my horse again, was the mob following and throwing stones at me and my hors., which caused me to mount my horse again ; the Park wall was :hrowim down at the time of opening and abutting the gates ; 1 know that was the time, it was about between the first and second time of shutting the gates; it was all within a few tninutes; the soldiers were nut using their sabres be fore the people began to stone them ; on the soldiers opening the gates the stones were thrown ; 1 can't say I saw them or any of the people struck at the time ; struck at several of the mob myself, but did not cut then, ; I struck with the back of my sword, but did not hurt any, nor see any of my comrades do so, to get the gates open ; I had nay pistols. I used the sabre myself against the people sitting on the wall. Juror—Those persons hail no stones:—Witness. I beg your pardon, Sir, if they had not brickbats in their bands I would not go there ; I cut at one man; I struck with the back of the sword ; the stones were !lying from there continually. Mr. 11!aeLie proposed an adjournment to Monday. The Foreman proposed that Sir It. Baker an►l Cul. Cavendish should be tionnsoned for Monday, which was ugrrc►l to. 'I be Jury then, at :t quarter after eleven o'clock, ad journed to two 11 ' clucl; on Alimilay, at the same place. TO TilE EDITOR OF THE STATESMAN. SI it—i lasi tix seen my name publicly placarded in large hill', announcing- tbat subscriptions will he received and explanatory hills delivered by me resilecting the funeral of Honey and Francis, I leg uneipi:vocally to say, Live never been applied to by any accredited authority for either ; and though I deeply regret the death of these unfortunate men, and more deeply the cause iii which they originated, I differ from the prnjectors of this measure butte politically and reli giously ; the Sabbath never was intended to be set apart fox o r u ade. I pity the relicts of these unfortunate men an Id willingly add tay mite to assist the wi dow and the fatherless, but I can never sanction either directly or indirectly a measure, which, in my opinion, militates against the cause which I considet paramount in the heart of every honest man.—ltequestingyou will have the goodness to give this publicity, remain, Sir, your obedient Servant, Jouy 33, Blackmao-street, Southwark, A issetri 25, PRICE OF STOCKS TH Hank Stock 2304 7 0 per Cent. Red 741 M 3 per Cent. Con. 761 0 8! per Cent. 01 4 per Cents. NU 5 per Ct. Nary lON O 3 per Cent. !nig Ann Imp. 3 per Coot. Irish b per Cent. DAY Al' 0M O'CLOCK. India Stuck Dlttottunds —s (Ms 61s. pa South-Sea Stock Booth Sea Old Ann. an Bills Vd. 44. 6s. As. pm. Manlius for Money per Dank for Account India for ditto COS. tor Aeet 764 Lott. Tickets 191. lqs. etc gotatuffitan. " TEM LLITIIII SiATESI44II" IS INC(1111.011Aft, " ?Si Si ITIMMAN." LONDON: SATCRDAT EVLNING, AUGUST 25, 1821. The Inquest on the body of one of the unfor tunate men who were shot at Cutolterland-gate, con cluded hst night, and concluded in a manner which the public in general anticipated. The verdict given in the case of George Francis is " :Warder against a Life Guardsman unknown to the Jurors." This result, the Ministerial writers admit it would he affectation in them to say occasioned surprise; though they own they feel at it both regret and alarm. We, too, acknowjedge that we feel concern that such groands should have been given by a British Soldier as to compel a 'latish Jury to charge him with the crim. But the I:4mm which the ministerial writers feel is of a different kind ; and the same pens that were the other day employed to restrain the Jurors on the inquest fr iofringi the prerogatives of the CORONIR, was the province of that officer to and of the Jury only to examine the gaged in laying &swathe law to him' holding up as the most competent jud him what he had omitted to state in Jury. The distinctions between Chance-medley, cuseable homicide, arid Culpable say ought to have been pointed under the attention of the Jury these writers proceeds so far as the so things having been omitted brought," the verdict it a perfect for the conerstreey of this species gentlemen, and the respect in whirls the isetitntioneet their esenttry. sod its tribunals. Being estialinel irir e kehe enamel es it hen Is skis use been bkheri. log illit midis will interrupt lts ~; , •t~,:~.~ - ..., T ~.....ti~- ~.. ...f.~~y.r'.l-. the unkisowea criminal Vert, we sl4ll deli plore any measure tLat may be adopted to irritate ti. public mind on this melancholy occasion. We still deprecate the project of accompanying to their g rm 'with popular parade the remains of the unfortunate victims of Cumberland-gate. The Secretary of tk e Queues Cavalcade Committee has completely di s , claimed connection with it ; as has also a Correspo e . dent in our paper of to-day, whose name hail , witl ft his consent, been advertised as a receiver of sabse e i p . Lions for the p ur p ose . M r . W AIIIIMAN, too, Las ad. dressed a letter to us deprecating the intention of forming a procession to-morrow, u the matter is msa er judicial inquiry. We are really ast.mislsed at the credulity cf those people who can place confidence in tle• distorted s e at , ments of facts which arc daily found in the columns., The Courier. The Courier is aware that recent om it . rences have done more towards unmasking the qutes4 persecutors, and exposing the measures they wouldp kr , sue in the government of this country, than all thepev aigs . t ions to which that Must rious and unfortunate wom an , devoted. To bring oblopty upon all whom they sesp ecto f opposition, whether they effect this by libelling ri n s e character, or attacking public bodies is to them inmate. rial, so long as they succeed in their malevolent designs. —We have seldom had to record a more deliberate and atrocious libel on private character than that which was published in The Conrier on Wednesday, and which ap. peered next day in Tug STATESMAN, with a must satin factory reply to it on the part of the individual so as. perscd. We allude to the case of Mr. IWIIITAKER. la the few introductory sentences which accompanied the affidavit of Mr. WHITAKER. it was far from our pop e to imply the least suspicion that he had exaggerated it!: case. We felt assured at the time, that what h e stated was correct, and we have since been informal by himself that, from motives of forbearance, be suppressed several facts which would have proved highly detrimental to t hose of whom he complained. Knowing*: Mr. IVIIITAKER to be temperate in all things, and above all others moderate in the expression of his opinions, we look upon his complaint as the more fit to be investigated, as the more fit to excite theconcern of the public , and as the more fit for the exercise of such a minute inquiry, as may lead to the punishment of the offenders ; and, a.. less measures are taken to bring them to justice se man can consider himself safe in a house frequented by those soldiers. All we desired by prefacing tie account of the matter with some observations on There day, was to induce the reader to enter upon the relative without bias or prejudice; and all we now desire w effect by their recurring to the subject, is to expose the falsehood and venom of the Cowries., and if possible, get the whole outrage within the cognisance of a proper tribunal. It is not by a system of terror and oppressioa that an enlightened people can be kept under ; Dorval it tend to strengthen or do good to any tiovernmest, to allow alleged delinquencies on the part of offended sol- diers to iwss unheeded. Paris papers to the 234 bare mired this morniag. Letters from St. Petersburgh received in Fraaktort on the 16111 inst. no longer doubt the commencement of a war between Russia and the Ottoman Porte. Sol•' wi t diers of different nations are constantly passing throe Frankfurt, on their way to Greece, where, it is they endeavour to make common cause with Altp, Greeks. Several French soldiers are among,* number. I pill The Thrks recently pursued some Weeks witlia the Austrian territory, but they were compelled to make a precipitate retreat, for the Anstrians srai upon them. Pnr.xen Fewns.—Five per Cents. 881. 15c.—Bank Actions, 15421. 59c. THE ichvo's risfr 7%) DUBLIN. -rip rat,, Aconey U.—Yesterday an adjourned Meeting of the Committee of the Inhabitants and Householders of the City of Dublin, was held at the Royal Exchange, when the following Resolution, was carried unanimously : Resolved—That a Committee of Twelve be appointed for the purpose of reporting to a tleneral Meeting of the Deputies of the llouseholders and Inhabitants of Dublin, such further proceedings as may be deemed necessary still more to evince their loyalty and attachment to their gracious Sovereign. The Meeting then adjourne , l to Saturday for the pur pose of receiving the Report of the Committee. An adjourned meeting of the Nobility, Gentry. Mer chants, Rod Inhabitants of Dnblin, was held yesterday. at the Royal Exchange, for the purpose of considering the expediency of opening a general subscripties. for erecting a national testimonial, to contaistoosts his Majesty's visit to Ireland. On this occasion the warmest effusions of loyalty were poured forth by the Honourable and night Reverend Speakers, and the Resolutions proposed was unanimously agreed to. Among the Orators who dis tinguished themselves, Mr. O'Connell was very con spicuous. It is not said he a mere trophy, it is nut a t frump infringing on t, and to tell thews it ' te P s u ti m o u so u n ' inl .. s:c11 - ns has been ceded - to Welling- ton, that would evince the gratitude and attachment v to expound the law, a hi c k the Irish people feel towards his Maj e sty :— a . the facts, are now en. we should erect a domestic residence for hiss -› to m wh om th e yh a d b ean amongst us, and should he visit us hereafter, he e might point to it, and contrast it with the clothier t it judge, and chewing of other Monarchs. Hi. might say, " other Me a e in his charge to the mirth, have palaces erected for them by taws toot t I Chaste-medley, Bs- here is nue which bas bees raised for me by the affec- title homicide, they Lions of the Irish people. — (Loud appl a u se. ) If it 11 A red out, and b ro u g ht he not premature, I think it would be well if aid. e J ur y ; and eve o f were embodied in the Resolution, and I trust you v will excuse nee for endeavouring to throw off my as to du " i* ill "' heart some part of that exuberance of feelis g I) "Hilted to be lb " which the coodeecension of our Sovereign to this mom- Ii :t nullity."—So meet try has called forth. Ilia Majesty was already set e ... cies of Corsadbislosil down is the most accomplished thesthenan is his De- • m ai l tt h akeydrneet z y9s h is m or e i a t i .e,r n sis le ke n hi s oiri g , a h leso ls couis prese arsibtampe nt s ce seti nditet es.r(g p wase re rn frn alos ar tba ta t e h scom i se s ? tri !m sdem !)ittm 11 " t h e wer 1 "0 184100 should &slide apes the sitars et the testimonial, as 44 IP Ptemwd. mid Dear that it would of omen dorsi s r 4 Ohs sOOOON4 the i regress is kttairist dultectipliess. .. - .4 ~ 1, , t ~ :- .1.6.07 . I trt. • vii ; 4 ..._... • .„_:_„...........- .......„....._..__- - 1 . • .