The Statesman. — London, England, 1815-05-03 00:00:00

;:tie 1 ~: 7 I` r F ~.. L.. L - r‘2l TILE ST . was an aegnisition of territory as far as the Po, which than time of self-interest, and eelf-preservation.— propositinn Bonaparte at first treated with contempt 1 Why had he vacillated from Bonaparte to the for its extravagance. It would appear that in Fe- ' Allies, from the Allies to Bonaparte' bet from !weary the Queen of Naples was communicating this anxiety his object was to ascertain which was With her brother the French Rulei, and making likely to be successful. Most of the documents on promise. in the name, and no doubt with the know- which the Noble Lord rested his defence were pro ledge of Ler husband. Bonaparte, in answer, says, bably written during this period of hesitation, and he should not deign to answer her husband's request when the King of Naples found that Bonaparte fur the Italian territory to tee Po, which he de- could not support him, he threw himself into the scribes as the request of a fool or a madman.— arms of the Allies. It was, however, a serious ques. Whit was the result ? Murat tried to. obtain from lion for the Noble Lord to consider, whether he had the Allies what Napoleon had refused him. The not injured the cause of the country by refusing to Noble Lord then read several letters to the House, ratify the verbal understanding that prevailed which Prince Talleyrand had found, at his request, I between the Allies and Murat ? —That ratification in the bureau at Paris. The first was dated Lucca, might hare bound him firmly to our cause, i ns t ea d o f I February 14, from his sister the Princess Borghese having him leagued against us. The defence hone to Bonaparte , its A hich she stated that Murat had I upon the first intelligence the Noble Lord receive dl I impressed his surprise at the Viceroy's passing On! at Paris from Prince Talleyrand regarding the Adige, awl at the Emperor's supposing he could be t treachery of Murat : it was only a matter of sus- I his enemy. The second letter was from Bonaparte picion—and why did not the Noble Lord refer to I to the Queen of Naples, dated Norm, Feb. 17, ; Marshal Bellegarde, who could have given positive 1 beginning thus—" Year husband is as brave a man • and decisive information ? Why had not this question as lives, ill the field of battle, but every where out ! been put to him—Whether without the co-operation of it he is as weak as...woman or &monk—[lA:ugh- ! of the King of Naples he could have been successful I rag] —he wantsmoral courage." It then goes on to fin Italy ?—[flear, hear!]—After advertin g t o wh a t I awes, the satisfaction of the writer with the com. had passed last year, regarding our engagements with I metrication he had received front her husband through , the King saltine Two Sicilies. Mr.Whitbread,remarked ' her,. mad his hope that Murat would take the first . upon the state of sospence in which Murat had been ' opposition of proving his repentance, and repair- ; kept, by having no Treaty on which be could de- • ing his ingratitude. The third letter was from pend, and upon the necessity there was on hit part • Fonche to Napoleon, dated Lucca, Feb. ff, deplor.. ,to take some step for his own security. Ile lamented ' ling Marat's want ofitfirmness, and stating, that he . that the Noble Lord had thought fit to quit Congress,' was eigiroacited by the'Austrians and English with before he had given his powerful aid in solving this being the secret partiom of Napoleon. The fourth ; most complex problem. At present, it did not ap letter was from Eugene Beauharuois to Bonaparte,' pear to him that the justification of the Noble Lord ! dated 29th of February, expressing a hope that was at all complete. ' I Murat would not add to the wrongs he had commit.; Lord CASTLEREAGH explained. ted against the Emperor by firing on his troops, par-; Mr. PONSON BY observed, that the hopes ex- ! titularly Mace a great victory had been gained by pressed by the Noble Lord, of having his advice fol. I the French. The fifth letter was from the French lowed by that side of the House, were completely Consul at Ancona to Napoleon, stating that neces- illusive, as they never would be influenced by it. But sity alone, the exposure of his coast to the English, • as to their having received information from the ! and the discontents of his people, had forced Mont • agents of foreign Powers, in an indirect anti circuit- I to join the .Allies ; that he remembered he was a ous manner, it was a serioercharge, such as should ! Frenchman, end the brother of the Emperor. The be distinctly proved ; but which was, in the present sixth letter was from Conaparte to Murat, without instance, totally false. He conceived it to be a base I a date, and beginning with the words " Sire, and insinuation, and unworthy of any Member of that my Brother ;" he reproached Murat with a violation House. The Noble Lord was also very oncandid in of duty, arising from the weakness of his nature; his representations of his Learned Friend's idea of an tells him that he was a good soldier, bye had no cisa.. Halite kingdom. The idea had been started, not as meter elsewhere ; that he (the writer) relied upon his ,opposing the possibility of its attainment, but as a promises, and hoped he was not among those' who political chimera, more to be desiied than expected. supposed the lion dead, "et Its'on pent ',laser our Lord C4STLFREAGH said, that he felt himself jui"—(this latter observation, read by the Noble bound to call on the Right Honourable Member for, Lord as are havegiven it in the original, produced mach :an explanation of an expression used in the debate.' laughter through the !louse)—and tells him that his lie alluded to the word " false," which was mime% head was turned by his title of King. The last letter, liamentary. I. from the same to the same, reproached him with the '• Mr. PONSONBY.+" I understood that the No- difference between Isis words and his acts; proposes ble Lord had charged this.side of the House with to judge of his real aentiments.by his coleluct at An- obtaining information indirectly and circuitously coma ; reminds him that the kingdom of Naples had from agents of Foreign Powers. This I conceived i been procured for hint by the blood and treasure of to be a severe accusation, and as my feelings** it 1 France for her use; and tells him, that when he ceased were strong, I expressed them with warmth. lam to be a Frenchman he was no longer any thing sorry for using words offensive or unparliarnentary-1 to him; advising him, at the same time, to but I must repeat that the insinuation was a base guard against his letters being intercepted.'.-- one." He (Lord C.) would now appeal to the House, whe- I Lord CASTLEREAGII—" I had heard that an tber auy thing could be more unjust than the aver- Honourable Member had received information trees sit's upon the conduct of the British Government • mitted to him from Genoa. On that knowledge I in regard tnislorat.—[flear, hear !j—But he could felt myself justified in making the observation." produce, not only the incontestible proofs of . Mr. WHITBREAD—" lam extremely happy to treachery he had just read, lie should state, on the have an opportunity of stating publicly to the House, authority of General Nugent, that the French force the• circumstance to which the Noble Lord alludes • at Reggin had been enabled to escape, by an opera- . to show bow ridiculous is the charge now preferred tion which Murat had directed in person fur that' against us. neverai.docoments had appeared in the' purpose. But was it not very probable that Murat public prints, not sent there by me, but on which I was acquainted with Bonaparte's intention of re- proposed many questions in this Home. .1 certainly • turning to France ? It was remarkable, .that a note some short time since, received a letter, purporting complaining of the French Government, had been !to come from Genoa, which I never answered; and., sent by one of Murat's MinisterS on the 28th of : I remember having mentioned the circumstance to the February, the exact period of Bonaparte's escape, Noble Lord some nights ago in the lobby. But , to the Austrian Government, demanding a passage ,at the same time I will never refuse to receive for 80,000 men through the North of Italy, against ' ' any information, while I exercise my own discretion France, which was peremptorily refused ; and that, whether I shall use it or not." however, without %siting for an answer from Vienna, r Mr. PONSONBY—" I declare upon my word of ; or from Rome, or Florence, where he had seat mes. honour, that I have never received any commenica.l sengerryhe mare ed beyond Aucona in actual hostility . lions, such as the Noble Lerd alludes to, from the With Austria, without any declaration of war, vio. I agents of Foreign Powers." lating the Papal and Tuscan territories, and pro. I Lord CASI'LEItEAGH repeated his request of I . vOkiag general insurrection. What a flimsy pre. •an explanation. I tence then was his civility to the English, or 1 Mr. TIER N Eir —" This question is easily settled : ' his rights wider the armistice, violated by him, .if the Noble Lord declares, that be never intended to ; and, of course, not binding upon others.--Ito , impute to the Gentlemen of this side, conduct incon.. was proud of having this cleared from ethrepresen. ! sistent with their duty - to the country, my Right lion.' tation and calumny his own conduct, the conduct of , Friend can have no objection to disclaim any desire' his Government, and tine public faith of his country. of personal offence." I He trusted those who so readily, and with so little Lord CASTLEREAGH conceived commanica fnuudation, brought charges against Ministers,l dons with Foreign Powers, and any indirect sources I• would benefit by the lesson of that night. lie de. lof Information, to be unconstitutional. precated the conduct of Gentlemen on the other 1 Mr. WHITBREAD—" Does the Noble Lord side, opening their ears to information secretly con. ' mean to attach any harsh interpretation tb that word veyrd by the agents of Foreign Govesnments, whe. 4 unconstitutional ?' does he mean to imply auy thing that directly or circuitously, as tending solely to ca. of a treasonable correspondence? if so, lethim charge lumaiate tine Gorermnent of the country, and in-; os openly with such conduct." jure the public service.—[fear, hear !.] —lle only I The SPEAKER--." I am persuaded the House I asked that the Gentlemen on the ether side would i will not permit the discussion to take such a dim. I tot always prcsurn . eesithout proof, that the enemy lion. lam confident the Right Hon. Member will ! was right, and din, onie Government wrong. Let disclaim any intention of using this word, personally : :hem but sunpend their judgments until information he owes such an explanation to the House." is fully end fairly before them. Mr. PONSONBY—" There is no place where I . Mr. WIIITBitEAD did not mean to miter into should be so cautious in abstaining from all ewes- the ease at length to-night, as a more fit opportunity I lion that could be deemed improper, as in this Home. I would be afforded lifter the production of the papers, I But I conceive that I am not the first to be called on but in his view it did not teem clear, from the state-' for an explanation. It was not I who charged any I meet of the Noble Lord that he alone was the Go. Member with a delinquency almost treasonable." vernmeut of the nation, that he alone was the whole Lord CASTLEREAGH--" When information is empire, and consequently, that he alone was to de- received by any Member indirectly, I feel myself (ermine the future fate of the country ; nor was it justified in alluding to it. The Right Hon. Member mere satisfactorily proved that all those who argued should be the last person to deviate from Pattie- i that the Noble Lord had grossly misconducted the mentary usages." affairs of the nation, were not Englishmen and the Mr. BOHN ER••••'. 46 I hope I may be permitted to real friends of their country. It was not at all say a few words, as it was from a warm defence of proved, itt the opinion of Mr. Whitbread, that the me, during my absence, that my Right lion. Friend Noble Lord was blameless in those transactions; he was indeced to use the expression.* The charge was must have been blind, indeed, if he did not perceive certainly a very severe one, and if the Noble Lord the system upon which the K ing of Naples was acting would disclaim any ititention of implying an anjusti. from the begitiniug. Bonaparte and the Allies were ftable conduct on this side of the House, my Right agreed on this point, that he was a most excellent Hon. Friend can have no difficulty in lamenting the General in the field, but treacherous and pusillani. use of that word." moos in the Council • the whole statement of the Lord CASTLEREAGIE—" I did not mean to Noble Lord displayed a scene of diplomatic insinuate that the mode of intelligence was in an/- treachery, that Mr. Whitbread hoped would ever wise treasonable, but chat it was not such as Perim. remain without a parallel, and the Noble Lord must, meet could act upon. indeed have been a puny politician, if he ever con- Mr. TIF:RNET conceived that the explanation mired that Murat au guided by any other views removed all difficulty. I. ~, ~ rr Fr Pt Pt • CATESNIAN. - ..21C - -----= Mr. PONNONBY-" The charge was a very se- policy which the Governments inesg ell n al :" - t vere one; I felt it warmly, and in the heat of my 1 France , and composing the Congress of ": feelings did use an expression not warranted by the I have pursued rsued in re i intioi to ' this rson aie, : ...) .::";a.'' -: . usage of Parliament. lam sorry for it." Mr. W. POLE then rose to defend the general : now become such a formidable oppon en t ; au! bees : are circumstances stated in the speec aes o f ea , 4 0 ,, conduct of Ministers in the entire transactions with Murat, and passed an eulogium on the manner in I eloquent Moyers, relative to the cotel ua t o f , u , which Mr: tinnier introduced the question. I own Government in particular, which wilt IP fun;,.; well worthy the attention of the British Pilai r .. Mr. PROTHEROE applauded the general con- • 11. duct'of Lord Castlereagh, and thought his defence 1 circumstances which have received. b u t a very utaaa- quite concliisive• factory es planation in any of the replies which a e Mr. HORNER, in reply, remarked, that as the ;have seen made by Lord CASTLEREAGLI of hit itiPt,j,. Noble Lord had acknowledged the general accuracy of the information on which his Motion was founded, 'We will just allude to one statement. ile (~ it would at least seem that it had not been derived operation of M URAT in the general cause ,i,,i i .,, France is admitted to have bosh do u lef 1 ' from impure sources. He said that the Noble Lord u -so, il a did not treat•him with candour respecting his obser. vations on Italy. lie had guarded those o b servations proved, has been the sincerity of the A ll i e d P ONP. with the greatest care, and had treated the idea in their professions to him. Could any Intl s, throughout as a visionary, impracticable scheme, in circumstanced, tantalized, ande did -play vantage Of Europe. He denied his having spoken own SPC•:M. , the present state of our relations, but still thought R MUAT appears to have been by the Alli es , b eer- such a scheme would greatly promote the general ad- I peeled to act otherwise than h game that he could for his ' a . But wh a t I with confidence of the friendship of Murat ; his ob- wat his conduct eve!' up to so recent a d a t e as t h a serrations on that person's conduct had a directly ! contrary tendency. As to the general effect of the middle of Febtuary last ? Though he a pp ears to Noble Lord's speech, it really had none en him ; ' have been perfectly aware of what was t o h appen i n ' and as to the letters of Bonaparte to Murat, it France, in the middle of February last a persona:- . should be remembered that th e y w e r e all written rived in his country from Joacutar, with full powers previous to the 4th of March, while it was his con- ! to ores active cooperation in oar views respectin g ' duct, subsequent to that period, that should be exa- i mined. lie defended the general conduct of the I the settlement of Europe, provided we did w h at we • Opposition, and urged that they acted as the honest 1 had done before, recognise his title. Th oug h we Representatives of the Commons of England, When i had, even at this late period, an opportunity of sera- employed in examinieg the conduct of Ministers, i ring the alliance and co-operation of this able Com. both in their internal and foreign concerns, with aC - ! mender, with 100,000 of the best troops in E urope and f curacy reedom. what was the conduct of Ministers here? They did • The question for the 'production of the Papers I nothing-they could do nothing-but tell the nos,. was then pot and carried. The remaining Orders of the Day were then postponed, and the House ad- ! senger his dispatch must be sent to Vienna, w hi t h er journed at Twelve o'Clock. our Government had gone in the person. of Lord —______________ ______,_ - CasTeeiteaan, and where his Lordship was sitting, ly Mr. LorsLi . having been congratulated Ay giving advice to the PRINCE REGENT how to act in some unknows Friends on his supposed liberation emergencies ! Thus an important occasion for sect- from Prison, in consequence erthe late discussion ring our interests was deferred and lost, from acme in the House of commons; begs leave to acquaint the moat insulting to the deliberative functions of a them that he has not yet been so fortunate as to British Senate. Though the " High Allies" at the obtain his libertg, but he hopes and trusts the day Cougress, or at least s o me o f th em , s h o w e d th ey ' . 1 is not far distant when it will be in his power to 'would willingly have treated with his Neepolitaa anucnisice that desirable and tang kokedfor ercee.. - Majesty when he occupied &Assam, they had pre- _ Newgate, Nay 3. 1815.. siossly made up their minds to turn him adrift.- a in the Fifth Year of bit Impriscooleat. .- . ,--- The evidence upon which this determination, now to c . ._ _ . PRICK OF STOCKS TADS DAY Al °Dili 0134) - C111 I be WWI upon in the best way, hey can, bet-ease they . -.A Malt long. Ann. 14 5-14 .• ; : . r .IR 9 per Caul, Ital. i6O lad,, Bunn , • f i. p .. . • - • . 1,„, . cannot now do better, is pre° by my ',ford Cutts. 'I per Cebt. Vats. bi l l* &chequer ten, 141,E - REAMS in his exculpatory speech. How far it 2 • -la 4 per C. 110 • .. Odmiton - ' ..,. ~.. . 4 per Goo. Nary S6l , Consoli. for Arc.l7a. ;.. . - is so, we leave the Reader to judge-how far the era. Si _ _p_a .•_____ _4_,______ . _IL_ defeat agaitist NIVRAT is correct, we will not say ; l'ilr , •gril TES ' • . but we think it proves little' more than the miserable MA'N .1 expedieats to which even g reet Power. are driven , ./ • to give a iolisertng of jostles to their proceedings,- * a - • . ' t LONDON: . • . policy there seems to have been none in the whole of : WEDDESAAY, - sue. S; • 1815. : ' their conduct. What oegbt to have been moll the he _- .-......- 140 points settled at the Congress, seems to hare been the last-the adjustment of the vaginal - claims We have no Papers from France to-day, but there i to Italy, and the quieting of the public mied fl• rou e b ra t are Some reports in Circulation on the authority . of , private letters to .which importance is attached, par. that slumbering volcano of political discord. The titularly one setting that NAPOLEON bad secretlyi Legitimates, t however, thought they hid 'the hest •quitted Paris for the South of France. One of Chi:l Bile to be served first, aid so they were pretty plen- tifully, and then CAM lite common men, to whom, . .1 causes assigned for this is absurd enough-the de. ' hel cline of BONAPARTE'S popularity. We should rather and i- it seems there was nothing to taunts for farmer inactivity., Lord CASTLE. give suppose, if the Emperor h” taken the Southern in- ' ' but rebukes, . d a m. REAOIf, Lei rd WIC BENTINCK, General NUGENT, stead of a Northern direction, that the real cause of and M. TALLEYRAND think they have made out a his movement to that quarter must have some c,onnec. , strong case of military inactivity on the part of tion with the situation of Italy and the operations of JOACHIM, when the -Allies wanted his services ; i ll ' Paperssit MURAT. Respecting the latter we have little fresh • and' the •ri • - which L ord . Ctseruneectr's new the , friend TALLEYRAND has 10 confidentially pat into details that can be depended upon... We, haviP the hands of his Lordship, prove-that MURAT, : be e i indeed, bulletins from Vietinig• anxtouncitig. his de- :though he had seceded from the cause of NAPOLEON, ME feat, in the instance s before stated, end informing' us, , had still s o me c orres p on d ence w ith hi m , an d h a d h Li ei n l 66 The result of all the operations in Italy proves, ; neither forgotten his own interests, nor a grateful IV that Militate has been obliged to relinquish the of-' recollection of the obligations he owed to the man who had made him, and might still preserve him, a Sinn fensiee. Beaten at. all points," say they, helm* King ! But would not the case have been different, 'retreated from the banks of the Po. His army is and 'would the Allied troops ever have entered Paris demoralized; the peace of Italy, which he menaced, if the King of Naeets, with the armies which lie C is secured ; and our army - will be ready to attaCh. withdrew from the standard of Napoixos had Sold him in a few days with a superior force whilst on. charged the inactivity complained of into active sup. other corps is assembling on the frimMers di .Pied...! port of their former leader? Who will befiese it, mont, for the purpose of Obierving, the South after hearing the declarations of Lords Cast-hear:mat .Prancc." This latter partik,r , o f and I.;vriroor. on the strength which Narotrue f ''' sl at . gree, account for the 71)04.4 :11tr iosef h :4 9 .F ri r , e ;.,- . possessed, independent of his own farce in Oa!) ? Ilect t •••*•-lillt France and the two FERDIN t Nu's (par Itie Emperor to the South,- • Bot‘tboliatista intelligence , nohile fratrum !)wanted Mon tT down ; and that ie.,. is-as little trust.wortky,is .dlit aiiii mein the habit r and Taer.evit AND'S intercepte4tters afforded rereott of receiving from Bruseeig aa • ela:.:*.a!' ," • - • - ; say .1 i and-evidence sefficient for his rimiliation! flare thPy toc i ,: We have to- add, that welntell *looked ad v i ses accomplished it ? FEItDIN AND of Spain M ho it Sit St , fi t to reign!-" The false PERIGORD," the Mniater a through Vrivate 'Clitinnels; . irbiCh 'teud to elucidati, : BONAPARTE With whom we never could great, and pi e ; not Much to our s atisfaction the mysterious circuit. iii whom we could repose no faith whatever, is Ito* stances (mentioned in other lettere from Brussels), .1 the- most faithful, sincere, and trust-worthy of d.' . under which aeiumber of wounded men; particula r ly . ! voted beingt ! lie can justify himselr-eaud owl 1 3 thing besides! 't his subject is not done with. :i.B • Belgians, are said to have been beought .in t o the Hospitals from the frontiers, where, it was believed, Pipers moved for were granted. Ri g , an engagement had taken place with the F r e n ch . H LISI' OF THE MINORITY ' 11 troops. Our letters say a conflict had 'actually taken ; ` A , Foe oat:mono V/ IS ctTY PETITION. e norrerOlTilb:e, 11. J. ch:ffli, J. P. ~,„1,, roe, Lord r• wri t place, but, unhappily, it was between two Belgian I Burden, Sir F. Oisrden, W. Paestum, R. heir 1 regiments and some English troops. The former, , i t.",t' s. G H " ) . ' c G a i ,t : im . ir . l L“ . ~ P ( 7,:," th . 3.' RI. kl'lr. . 1 „, i4 it is said) were arrested on their way to join the 1 IL•rkel ). ft. • Giskell, B. Priiby. Los , ' he I French by the latter, when an affray took place hi , n tio ..r ri ne n g li ,'S l i i r"T" . . H. C. B lili ni"ner " , F. 111 ' 11" I PC l‘ o il i l lo i r i 7 ,. .e b t ;. :.. I- ti ll which blood was spilt, but to] what extent is not 1 l a t: o r h a rt; „ F t s .. J. 113 , 1oaerstel., H., Rowley , Sir W. imiiron, Lord A. Ridley. Sir M. , it correctly known. The Belgians were reduced to I Iteout, Hon. T. Ji!rviitie, G. P. Robinson, A. I obedience, and it appears certain many of them were c e, , ii.ert, Ch. Ketlip '- Sniit.i, W . ! lip, ; Ist ; Lyenli,h, Lrl. G. King. 'sir J. 1). Smyth, J. 11. wounded. We give this satement as it has reached CaVP " .4l$6, C . - . 1 ) 44.11 ' 44 lb . "' 11 . I''''''lll, it. ir t s ' Citlctaft. .1. Lubbock. J. H. Sentliosore. U. P. 1 n us without pledging ourselves to its accuracy. We Drake, W. S. Muitin, J. Tieriwy, f•ee• fv, should be sorry to find it true. Fitzroy. 1.d..f. hil.liiiii. Lard Tnvittiick. Lind ; .1 : St. reign -on. Sir R. Plontie,ionei v, Sir H. Whotbrend, S. 1 r„ --.......-- . , Lefevre, C. Show New n ori. l Sir J. Wortley, Sh. I a! •• Finis ) K • Neville,- I is.,. R. Wellesley. H. ti A debate of great interest took place last night in Fue ,,,,' c ' . Nugent. Laid wi kiwi,' W. Pat Y. both Houses of Parliament, on thesubject of the con. : 1.. LLERS—AIderMAA Atkins alai S:r W. Cow , - Mr• ATRERLEY M. P for Southampton, voted 0 1 . duct of MORAT, King of Naples, and that of the ' 1 P. , . arl the Minority on Mr. WIJITDREA6 3 mottOtt. ..I Allied Powers towards him. • Earl GREY, in the . • ,t.• f ae e CORS-F.EcHANGE. MAY 3.—Attain - h no fresh oiro• _ lr,,i, Lords, and Mr. rfoaNcn in the Commons, agi- wheel this n""ilig• Rae pud.ty with di:Scully o litni . i , r I Nl . , toted the question by inferior 2.. per quartet cheaper. -1. ow 0 ' ) , f ; planatory of the points connected with the Nego- sooriol for Papers ell - . d m a l s ta l io r l ! ti s on : do)'s prices.—ln Bar:ey, Peso, and Poi , : 1 '' or ao idler:aim'. ........... cations with hit NEAPOLITAN MAJESTY, and took - ---- - - -------- - , 4.014D0N ? Printed' sari PU , nosed AZ I L.I nu t ! . 4 ' la most able renew of the general conduct and . st.7a•NAN verses, hi s tea - :•.- . .., -.• , ,