The Statesman. — London, England, 1809-10-06 00:00:00

- , 11,18.-ef a dinner tiodisidusl Members their aon.ativiolannow 1111 m. v7ortky Alderman _jibes' Lager on t the weld not avoid t asking, snowiest two of rase` onailltionsont for okebt. - which had Ind kineigastieulast ation of debtors. kr bad also, gated itself to kis% tbsi of.alms-b - Reses t equal to Diliinetilirewleni would ' he this in itioa situ. sot- dilleltheke* • Re thee Wed the Cam% .tlibe tt appearing that the Rem. latices emend Otto lily that Coact, ao the 2tilth day of Septem ber teet.farlibamisedug Gaildhail ea the 25th of oc-tube', and digit vardas ea bet Ohm day at the taperer of the Corp - rain. wesesegatory, each Reenhithono bartig been carried imeieldiest at the MI Medias Order; they wrer..olicrefilre, alegilholle VW it Woold be sew eitemealyt to the paternal WINOW 101 atidest's teed awe eamisteat with the haunter SiMilf.ol3t of this CrwlstoAoatrueamate the day oe which 1104= ms eatimed tima)th year of bb nig% by the eteetioo eV • for aged 'mews a$ their W id:twe =by mbleb bb illidedy's slay 11.6 the 50th, nod every suceerding yriodfoofb4 Wok elowidire welcomed with . joy sod deli/m.4s MeteaY ,pt an lalleteloo th at had made on many aged aid POW asi*lPP — tflear , 4 " This Wu the ps'oposition that had occurred to Nw so proper, as rtwpaufel to his M•tj city, and os due* with respect to tbentsuirei. lie trusted that it .orsisid moot the approbation of the Con rt— bid oitottill, at preseot, coeclade, resorting him. soft hOlosseet any possible ohjectious that might • • Mr >c. BELL gave credit to the worthy Alderman fey dia,gattity of his 'motives, but thought that iellmistioes4 weld bc ashiused against the Regale din a it last Conrt.day for irregularity, which did not equally militate against tbs Resole tion auw proposed, because the one complained - the leant of doe notice s and the Mbar elm liable to ) the some objectius. tar: fiAlilUlat DIXON woutlored it did not strike the ingenuity of the worthy Sheriff, that kit 'Wigwam irregular. He was satisfied it was not his Milo. He had eatesolted others on the psvpriety orgsvisdaing Aldan* , W00D..." I key it." sc. DIXON aid, if it was the worthy Sheriff's Illaioss, ma he was booed to take it, his ob. jostles to k was set the less ea that account. 11.1 that the Coed might sot be led aside, or g et e irriself to be brought into difficulties by the basessises propositions of gentlemen who were beak to the purposes for which the Court had brat eioneated. The motion made by the e0r...1 4117 Ilbetiff had, appareatly, a doable aspect, bah the leading feature of it was to catch a degree bileepekwity its that Court, and, threegh die me. dim a that Court, with the public ; hence it was !bat pabjech were brought forward in a way that ads rather agroshable than otherwise to the Court, bp *nag as it to 4111111411i1e its hawing, towards tisokolplem-.-ao ens else which he should be sor. try * 414 lay lice, to interrupt ; it was one of the Wahl, pdrikges of that Court, and God forbid bowhould disturb it, to &insider of weaus that isigbt ration the affliction of its fellow estiaans. iit however, difered from the worthy Alderman GS to AO erect of a dinner on this occasion, nor tibi be bellows that the purposes of Amity seassid be ebschod by the dinner which hod Wes proposed, for he. would pledge himself to this--that there was no necessity to do sway the him of a dinner, because ** certain sant of asossey was to be appropriated to provide for it ; for he would pledge himself to this, that if the Watley Aldermen could poiat out any good whisk weld be brought out for the benefit of thy ppm (reassess of laadoe, or their families and Aetna, by say wide be could devise, that insole whald be adopeod ; for, lathe purpose of charity, the Matibere of the Coat sever had been, and, be trashed, sever insole be backward, nor would day bo slow in eepperting such a purpose ; nor did he believe tat torlieithreis woohl be slow in their imitation of the bounty of the Court. lie I thereon osativrell the Court to recollect, it had &WWI' Wad to celebrate the 25th of the pre. slat unootb as a Jubilee; and be would be plain to say; that be wished that day to pans as eday effetr il f f ria, which could not bappea in sditersee of tass b things wbiois evantated &good dinner, is w eh consisted so much of the joy of the meat. loth of the n Corporation oa that dap. If the Cur. pasties went to Church on that day, and did within der, ho apprehended -the Members who in attestled t would feel bboossolves ussasinfortable, ant thirsts* it was, that he was such an Niro. cots too a Oiler, sod he thought that any Mem. bpi d tit Goon Wight mos this, without bring NNW te .thotoores -of being aensatod by party suetibbsts• rise• blassidf, he had to disclaims all slob samtheski bbl 1111,111111 was to osoteremurate the lab par of the main of a great and e good So. igargjes, whose condole* had nut only bruit umi. fornviutit uniformly geed; and he hoped that all alksaimhuts of the Corset would view it in that 110. 4 , mai noosequistly assent to a propositioN, the diset of which wee * to thew a mark of respect, *aft& applanaa, to a wipes sovereign, to ; =me:owed s• inueh.-1113 hoped that this *eat be =penned without exposing Misr of the Court to ridicule, or to im. 9611110 itim 0041ves which wore of a dishossonr. MM %atom Fur his own pert 9 he bad no heel. %Skin tiliolariiig that -which h e bad frequently ItMint this was, to bins, lie party lies. WO 1110 184 . : i , W. pert, he was peectly ready to gip* *a. if tai those who here been in power, or tiineoisber sew are, la power; or all those who lie Mgr 0 cop. into power, were to pretend **Mb to Mw be Avoid not follow their di. noise f he eltimattellow leis mired far his Su. V.lllietts itd lieddllg cies...for he had nothing to dill id" dillMOlMlllyteS, which devilled int much the 2M2 • 1 44 : 04 / 1 1 11 1 1 1 11kittis t qnd therefore he wished who appeared to hove bet GIN *Nese. la ,l.w, wealth .ea thie ocession, Inlisattint4 , mitre 01 0 well Put; fur Out' 2114= t wer le bare the when, eft U ebetad be lebeli up, eemerip., • City Represeatertives _ _ He spill tuded, most heartily, present 000diitsil. lid know . e. .0 to ...Its of the worthy Sheriff in bringing fur. cutlet, correctly, for the absence of theta a' ! • his proposition for the relief of theitaat e though of same hu could—uf one in peril- emlead of dining at the expence et the Coreori. cider (Sir Charles Price). who, instead of at- non, on the day of the approaching Jubilee, het tending that Court its. 'tato' to the opinion of the worthy Alderman had not entered into the ]`hat very °onside-Wile portiou of his Curtails'. particulars of his plan. He owned be prefer. eats, of which that Court was composed, was red another; which, with the leave of the reticulating the profit and loss of a play-lionee 1 Court, he should stale. He meant the ap [Prodigioss applause.] He wished the Repro- plieatuoi of a sum of ntonPy to the relief kentatires in Parliament of the City of. London of persons confined far small debts, the Mere present, on this oecasio, to hear what* Sicc(j Tor which - had already afforded much Was now saying about thee.; he hoped they insistence to those unfortunate. perseas, as hp broad hear it by some metes or other, for be had peered by their report, which stated, that t 4,01141. !to hesitation in declaring, that, in. his jedgment, of debts had been truebarged within the last 38 the Representatives of the City ought to be called years, at the sum of W. 10,. 4d. each, by which to as acement for their absence an the present uo. (isoindhig the families of the enforttuisba debtors) Ile could uut conclude what be had to no less a number than 79,339 perusal had bent say, without expressing a hope that. all party relieved from the hermits of imprisonment. In considerations would be laid aside on the present tits year 1802, no less than 1125 persons were uccasion ; and also that the worthy Alderman set free, at the sum of 40 shillings cach e by the would nut press his Amendment. kiudness of that Society. And in the year 1804, Mr. Alderman (.=OODIIEIIiALE thought that a great number were restored to society et the ex the proposition of the worthy Alikreamemight be peure of 41. each. Now, he sebanitted to the properly entertained at the present 1110111011 t ; for, Conrt a consideration of the quantity of belie& although the standing order !night be said to stand which might be derived to Society by appeopeiat. against it, as sell as against the Resolution which ing 10001. to aid the efforts of this bents°. it sought to set aside, yet that standing order lent society ; fur, taking an average of three might, when a fair reason is a-signed fur it, be persons to a family, and allowing 31. for the dispensed with; ur, fur a while, suspended.— relief of each debtor, three thousand persons The Lourt possessing entire power over its own would partake of that relief, and this world he proceedings, might certainly, on fit occasions, do following the genuine example of a Jubilee, lira; its own standing order, and then the pen. under the Jewish Dispensation, as recordist fur dam was, whether this was, or was not a fit oc. our guidance in Holy Writ, the practice of which anion for that purpose, and that question the was to set free all the Debtors, and all the Gap. worthy Alderman said he bad no difficulty what. lives whatever, at the 80th year, which was the over in deciding its the affirmative. As to the mode year of tbeJubilee f and indeed, under that Divine in which the Court should express its loyalty, Diepeaatiou a every seventh year was the year of he did nut see that eating and drinking were es. 11411ellit. He asked, whether following this Divine souial to that purpose ; that was a point, how_ example, held out to us hi Holy Writ, was out a ever, on which individuals might differ as to the thing to be desired? and, whether the Court propriety of the thing, but it did not follow as ought not to avail itself of the opportunity now a matter of necessity that the Corporation should offered to imitate such humanity and good-will to dine, in order to show their loyalty and attach. men. Another thing struck him forcibly, which, ment to their Sovereign: he, therefore, saw no he must suggest to the Worthy Aldernsan, ar danger whatever to the character of the Corpo. I worthy of his attention, which was, that the creet;l rodeo, in abstaining from a dinner on this *tea. ling of alnis.housiu might be attended with an ens Non. The piestion then resolved itself into this foreseen espenoe ; fur unless care be taken, uselll —To what purpose should the Foods of the Cur. i this most laudable purpose would be isativerbel potation be applied Whether to that of eating j kilo &job by some 'ebbs* individuals, to whontl hod drinking—a purpose of festivity, and which the conduct of it mot necessarily be entritst.l erns a mere momentary and se4fie4 purpose, or ad ; therefore, he did not see the end of the that which was proposed by the worthy Alder. expellee of such a measure as this,-mmi' rude. man, which would be a monument to steed for bly it might stop and be frustrated ollitigedlor for ups, of the hunsanity and stunifecenee of the want of fends, for these things, when.anse Court, that of erecting Abe.hoeses, open a plea, tutenced4 often took a seen eesy 4iffeeeß4-4eso 'the outline of which was stated, although not the the intention of their original donor. Now, if particulars ? lie granted that much might be said the Cutporaiion were to approve of his plan, un the competency of the Funds of Ihe Corporation, •one of item objectitem would apply to it. If but the Worthy Sheriff had stated the reedits's' the Court shoitia agree to apply, he would not of Companies to second and support a gstopcssi. Noy 10001. but 5001. the beweacial erects of it thou of this nature. He therefore sae', that if would be inceleulable—much better, most as. the Court was disposed to do dual honossr, it sutedly, sban the ending and drinking in which would adopt the proposition of the worthy Alder. it was proposed to the Court to indulge on man ; and, in so doisig, it would do more lot its the day of the approaching•Jobliee. lie felt , own feline, than it could procure by all the jell/. 4 delicacy In proposing whet be was submitting ties which Gould attessd any Jubilee, and he knew to the judgment of the Court ; he hardly haute of nothing so truly honourable, es that of the how, although much inclined, to move it as Corporation appropriating its feuds for the per. an amendment ; he certainly should out per. pot of relieving its fellow-creatures its adversity tilt in it, unless be could prevail Impels the and distress—lt was admitted that a dinner, if it worthy Alderman to withdraw his, because, if was to be at ti.e expence of those who nastook of they both persisted in _their Amendments, they it, would be but thinly attended if so, a alinscr might, by opposing sash other, both lose their ob. at the esteems of the Corporation, weight afford jest. Ilis Amendment, however, be should take but an indifferent specimen of loyalty. Then if Nara liberty of reading to the Court, elm would Gentlemen chose to dime, let than pet their beads then dispose of it as to its judgment should seem into their own pockets to pay fur it..-let the Gee- meet—. • . poralion funds be applied to better parrusteseT- " Mir irearticie of this Court, it will be acre at- In all this there was nothing disrespectful tot* eeptahle t. A catotrry Gon, sad sore c to the pa- MCI I:ITT, fur it must be obvious to every body tennil feelings atilt Mai SST r, to promote the libe l :Won of who. was acquainted with the bertigeity of his prisoncri and captives, ea the day ea than by ca royal disposition, that he would be notch more de. p e adi or watt of 'limey to flasts a.t iftwoisitilon -it thr e :j lighted in finding the Court attentive to the per_ fort d o h revolve t h at ama 5001 ._ 40 m amm a I a e poses of charily and benevolence, than that of soma t rcoomosoloti tostotatig front all pads If the Coortj.— l feasting. Ittihad frequently observed it inaiseated, " well, teem; ruistimsed Me. Jaen., " Kele Vibe Coed that those who oppoood thejollities ofeJ mbilestworre will have it sis-18001. be sebserited out of the City deficient in loyallyand attachment to theliping; that, to the Society for the discharge ..f penmen imprisoned liar , he took leave to say, was an unworthy insinssistion. Soon Doll% es condition that the mosey on subscribed be He knew of no morsopois which these Geetleseep applied f..r the PorP°leser that Society, o . o e &hest she 25111 poisessed of rights of attachment to thole Ma. IMAM+ for the discharge of the several Perselas ealalned !teeth • be thought those opposed dime in " Na l l (kb° is the several prisons of this Metr•Pellr* gelit I:laaa tor dining, and their eepookstifrjei. allY these who are Freemen of Loudon:* lies,. f u lly e qual to time in patirforias ill oil pa Mr. BOX esioilesmust the first motion as too branches. lie kuen of no instance in which any undenued. He wished the dinner to be pro., individual had brought: any charge against the Tided at their individual expellee, as it could not Kin. himself, for. • waist.. of virtue or morally, be supplied from She Chamberlain's Office, with. although many might deplore the effects of the out involving it in great embarrassments. lie evil advice which some of his Ministers might give had made Inquiry on the subject, and found him. Why then should one set of men be thought that the whole sem in the Chamberlain's hands, to have less loyally iu their hearts than others. at this moutesit, was 24001. for the amount of tie took it fur granted the Members of that which there were already sufficient chants. Court were equally animals d with zeal and per. Would they, thee, for a few hours' enjoyment, tett itttachuneat fur the welfare of the King ; and consent to take away this money, and, perhaps, 'the difference of opinion which prevaikd H. to leave the salaries of their officers in arrears, and disarrangement of the day of the Jubilee, was other demands uupaid ? He, for one, could ne. matter perfectly distinct from that of ,personal at. ver agree to do so. Ischmont to the Sovereisu. Ile therefore had no Mr. Sheriff WOOD, in answer to the oboe,. dllkulty whatever in saying, that the purpose to, vations which had fallen from Mr. Jacks, stated, Wish the worthy Sheriff proposukto apply the that he had thought it unnecessary to go into Afeodh of the Corporation on [dulls* of tbe,ap, the detail of his proposition at fi rst, and bad *pi l a t ahlog J u bile e , was infinitely more worthy er rather waited to ascertain what might be the it than that of providing a dinner for lite Ger. seuee of the. Court upon its !general tendency. pornsion. With teepee. to the liberation of. prisoners, it JACKS was not uneppriseil of the attoetbesent had beast las opinion that his Majesty would of the Corporation tat the City to a dlhirsett the oseieesly consider dieir k ense, and relief', them. co/shooed he was unable to discover the coniteClune -.4%1 1 1 , matter he therefore lefts in whit ap. between eating, drinking, and loyalty. HO took peered-4o bites a mare Praiser and bAlly train, leave to ask, why tha funds of the Corporation to be twodeetive of gnat service to the Interests should be appended et the present stoniest to the of Iseusseity. The erection of aless.bouses was penmen effestivity, when there were so many thematic, that Seamed repot eligible to him on this potions lo- dirtresi. lie felt that cite Committee ocessivo, This vroehl_plain the mess loyal, and win reported dints dinner en the *vision of the be a monism* is Om 414 1 ' 4 sons, end their sons' giniewinismeir-i-- --,===5.111. ___ -0.0 • r . mommanallilikeearfisemtir .... -- - - --- As se object su impariaril as si day of fasiirity. ft was as ;bet ' - dance was "Ws" necessary nor el * " 4 nbers of that Court, as to; stead of a dingier for the Corporation„ ibis boon Mars:atoll by the Court, for their the idanee.—poor! bear 1— ',ought to ho a subscription fur this relief of lest , edepire; ir dissatisfactory to the Covert, ought - to wu u said, ha would not trot; a-s , sont•rs confined for debt. He no objet have been referred back to the Committee to be psi time of the Court ; but he I tion to such a subscription, but* ugh( that omendtsf: K met dissatidactory to the Court, it hat ling, that there sere at this I the best time ie set it on t ee s .. after the ought to Ithve years, ciosfirmeti. He had knesre Alett it:sabers of their own body in I alter of dui- J millet,. r '4l to lot Cowl flei._s6 years, and either Aau et the wa . This was a consideration I observe that be enultl n. , ... co ,- ' of otter er Ogles t es could shoo. consistently $e @Ocularly to look at the s it u . i th e titaness of atseetlasice on . I " which wAls Its p have beets adopted; bet neidiceJ the bad also, at ono titne, tug. liis Lordship sat ; the subject o. ' ' 'vett. otsltollowed: a fresh resolution was entered into, of _ !fit the erection of a number leg was will knowe, and it was . fiance entirety with the whole report; provi. ant ii to that of the years of his that it was, this day, to have been ~r ol, g t h • t the Court shoat* dine at the expenee of fat Id boast sppropriate (nude of ward. lie was surprised nut to see .1 •.t lA. _ oration. lie could not accept of a din. Co which siva theekitict of their City Rapressigistives in his plaice, .. '.:ilr en such terms. He spill tutted, most Iseartlty, in , . „. , present occasion. tie knew nut how t, .c , :,• . 'ves of the worthy Sheriff in bringing fur., the v :II !RPM seas. Soma Gentlansts appeared to be startled at the ides a Ally afm.houses, but the expellee would oat by any means be so great as they ap.: prehended. It was not long since his predecessor bad erected eight et his own espenee, and it was a n im ith i ssi at how small a rate su great a charity was mooted. Sego& 'smithy Conipaitiva would lie ready to aid in any great plan of this Ward, and they were now is sublimer, waiting the decision 'this Court, whether they would follow their ex. ample in dining together, or apply part of their funds to a charitable purpose. ristratomars' Company were in consultation at dis moment.— tbe farther detail of this plan,- liwited to state, that it eras his intention to refer .the eeltect to a Ward Clantitittee ' end to give every . IV . tr o k turn, and every Subscribing CultipktfjC*e right of amresentatioe. ' Mr. [(EA FIN E observed, time tb had at. ready agreed to celebrate the 26th. ofber as It Jubilee, awl sow, both is and tent of Mot Castl e It was understood that the Jelelkutooli would be a dinner. It was • Alfollat saw thrall eeitising, and ought to b o b ltli vk salines, A, stigma had been throws- go, tbs poratiun, by proposing that they should subscribe.: 'individually with their guineas, like dab. ,If they Were to be together as a C or p ora ti os , i t meet . at their corporate espence, aad if subeeriptiests or any othcr perpose were necessary, let themits' ropotied at the dinner, and they would be liberal and abundant. Mr. MAWM said, that when he proposed a dinner, - he did it under a conception that it was the best way to celebrate the Jubilee, which ter.. tainly 'humid be a day of rejoicing. He did not mean to misuse the City purse, but he thought ought to be recollected, that he was not the ed. ginal proposer of a diuner, for it orisinated with the Merchants mad the Hankers of the snetropop lis—.they had determined that they woolddine on that occasion, sad therefore Ito thong* that the . Corporation of London could do act less. Ile 'nest again say, he felt a perfect conviction that the Corporation ought to do something more. than barely going to Church ; for that, show, would have no appearance of a Jubilee, it weak( be little ?teller than g solemn fast. That was nut the true object of a Jubilee, which was, properly, d day of refo4cing . — And why' not re. juice a t the mot of hia isiais.:sty having arrival to the 50th year of his reign? ‘lt was Kell 'omit that bit Majesty had, fur sunk, 141411. CtAteetilitil4 hopes he should lice to see, the commencement of the 50th year of his reign ; this hope was now about to be realised, and why should nut the day of its arrival be distinguished by deinoestra. Lions of joy of his loyal subjects? If the Court should call the day a day of Jubilee without re. joking, they would call it by a wrong same; and therefore it was that he hod proposed that the Court should dine together ea that day, and had proposed it is the iced expensive way, by IR. treating the Lord Mayer to groat the nee of the Egyptian flail on that occasion, mid with which his Lordship bad obligingly emot e d ; ot h erw i se they must have dined at Guildhall, whleis would have occasioned soulde the eapeoco. lle had no doubt Meet If the dinner twit-pima tithe Lien Hell, as tic had prop ttta aed the Cout E Z once resolved, the expense would net stoma t3QI. ; whereas a dinner in Goildhall ersehi. automat to ?50 seismal& It .had bees asked, wits did set the Members of the Court dine at tiseirown expence?...he had assigned his resion for that, which awn, than Jse thought it mould wat he so nig. astroutii attendee, if that were to be the OW! 3 be. Mot, it would out then be a thing done by lb Gorpscosion as a doily, but :Daly by the individesils who should attend, and it was a desirable thing that it should he the act of the Corporation ,- foi Shea there would appear nothing iavklioes, or a party satire in it ; foe he was Mtn/mill of tduism, that no polities should appeal sn this matter. As to the Illumination, it was quite nidienloas for the Court to ecoleavour to avoid it, because the thing could not be avoided. If he were to he asked, what loyalty had to do with ditties for iilaminatioa,...he should answer no thing : but if they had slabilee, there wart* alter ! satire—there must bus rcioleing,or the t hing would be absurd. Then as to the expesee of it, he really thought that too much had been told nn that sub ject. • ionic expenee would be uitatoidisble, unless the feast was to he of a piece with the second course of Tinton of Athens, which, when the dishes were uncovered, nothing appeared but smoke and hot water. [l'ho Members shook their heads and laughed.] As to the proposition of the Wor thy Alderman, he apprehended it to be intended to be withdrawn ; and as to the proposition of libe rating the prisoners, he hail no doubt M batever ii never would hare been made, if it had not been for the purpose of preventing the dingei• but the Gentlemen also had, hi their Report, told tins Court it was neither ernealient, nor moroaestry, that there should be a dinner, wuhld grant ang thing rather than a dinner ; but he stilt 111.104. taineil, that the dignity of the Court required it should abide by its detureslnativa to have a dinner. Mr. WAITII3I.IN desired that the reference which had been made to the Conuniuw, whose re. port was under cunsidcration, should be raid, which being done by the clerk , Mr. %V. observed that he had listened with great attention to all that he laid brand to-day, and particularly from the last Speaker (Air. Mammas), who had delivered the most extraordinary speech he had ever heard is that Court, although he had been in the habit of hearing very extraordinary speeches there. Mr. W. maintained that the reference to the coin , mittee by au means Included say thing concerning either a dinner of an illannination, but was merely a reference to consider of the most proper mode of Carrying into execution the purposes expressed in a resolution of the Court for celebrating the misu. ingAnniversaryof Hi, Majesty's Accession in a par. ticular manner. On the subject of a Jubilee there was a great divcrsityof opinion; but valet% the Court resolved upon the celebration of the ensuing Au- ' nireetery, and referred the debsii to a Cummithle, neither a dinner or an illtemlnktion formed any part of their instructions—u • proof of which lossertion, the Court had appointed on that Com. '.M.MIMI4II