The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-12-29 00:00:00

Ir e h l defi i to 4 ~~ 1., _ 1' ~' i .1' , C b. l t. h' - , thanks, as be said, for "' • offritnethip with which the Mayor and independent ► 11"1"""04101m144bilerinstirmegnrretalatett MMAIMM. - - 4 pony on thteptesence af theVedi all nguished visitor. ol r. HuniiliGtiom,int i for tbeii.ajmeeefia reside= Ati the long-endured nweepation oftlieirt chartered rights, they could; ham bad mo`postihili fel - D(4440 itinoiogit them!' and imotiglythem torOls.tilitikfttlinr'gess, as Well as a tried pattiot. 6 , r,•fif t spoke, in 00s/wisest terms of ap plause a *. Hulle'e intrepidity, in almost singly, and certainly pie•estorp,4l Voileavouring to stem the tog ._ • • . rent of, corr,uptacm, .tp,iippose the biuer task of rei tienifnenten the profligate and wasteful expenditure of public money , at a time 'when the industrious and middle clasteP were:fainting under the burdens of insa tieMe taxation. But, he said, abuses of this nature had been so ably end fully. exposed to them in the admirable week of his Hon. Friend, that he would (and particu larly as he saw in the room many owners and occupiers of land) speak to:them, on a subject of the highest im. pomace to the country at large, but more especially to all who coatineed to desire any income, either from the industry or realproperty of the country; but even in this, Mr. M. said, it was chiefly his aim to introduce that sub ject, in the hope that souse gentlemen in the room Whom he had in his eye, and whom he knew to be eminently qiialifiellt to Aueiitaie the subject, would favour the coin piny with their sentiments. Mr. M. said he alluded" to the &raffia operation of taxation at present on all the industrious classes of society; whether tradesmen, ma nufacturers, or farmers ; for by the operation of mea sures which he would endeavour to explain, they were now paying taxes in a double, and some even in a three &ld ems sure of their property. Thus the same amount of taxes whielo, in 1812, it required of the farmer only one bushel of wheat to pay, it now requires! nearly three; consequently, as to him, the effect of that taxation on his property was nearly threefold greater now than when these taxes were iuoposed. Mr. M. then went on to ex. plain that the taxes, which were levied when by means of an excessive issue of paper-money every thing was raised nominally and extravagantly in price, were now to be paid in amount the same, but under the circumstances of a greatly reduced currency, and by the sacri fice of property two or three times as great. He said it was utterly impossible this could long •cootinue; and explained the operation of the infamous Suspension Acts, and the equally insane As t called by Mr. Peel's name, before the account be tween the debtor and creditor, whether public or pri vate (which had been deranged by the reduction on Cash-payments) had been equitably arranged. Mr. M. said that it was always satisfactory, when the same conclusion could be come at by different means. Ile concerted in Mr. Huine's opinion that no substantial good would arise to the real interests of this deeply injured country till there was a full, free, pure, and equ .1 r epresentation of the people in Parliament. And who, tic asked, would libel the English people se wroasiy--as to say they were not able to manage their own affairs ? What had been the consequences of their being nearly excluded from the management of timer, • everrAine ?ow knew, many already felt, alkali in the issue. would feel. Mr. M. showed how the present system was in different ways destroying all real pro pel ty, and explained its operation in a manner so clear and impressive, as to call forth repeated cheers. He concluded by hoping that his worthy friend on his left hand, and another gentleman who be knew was present. would cuter more fully into the discussion. On this suggestion being marked with great ap plause,. !t•eN .T v' ' Mr. WtLTER PALMER sal4:, I 'rite, with great humility, but with grateful feelings, to return you my warmest thanks fur this mark of your favour. Next to the high sense I entertain of the honour you th is day conferred on me, in County Hall, I fed the plea sure and satisfaction arising from the circumstance of Ely being the cause of Mr. Hume's presence here to. day. Gentlemen, I find myself amongst friends, and therefore claim your indulgence, being quite unequal to follow Mr. M. upon the subject on which he has been speaking ; indeed he has so occupied the grounds as to leave me but little room to add my remarks. It is a la mentable fact that farmers are compelled to devote a portion of their time, which ought to be solely occu pied in the cultivation of their land, to the study of matter of a very intricate nature, to make them under stand what is to done with the produce of their farms, or rather what is to become of themselves. Much has been said on the subject of the fall of prices, by a person looked up to as a great political economist (I mean Mr. Ricardo,) and which has gone forth to the world, and I fear bas tended to deceive and mislead many persons; in which opinion, at least, I am by no means singular. However much I may approve of his sentiments on Parliamentary Reform, and some other subjects, on others I humbly differ with him. I will now read a few extracts flout his speeches relating to the passing of Peel's Bill, upon which I shall found two questions. In his evidence before the Committee on Mr. Peel's Bill, Mr. Ricardo said, that " the measuremight produce a fall in prices to the amount of 4or 5 per cent." In his speech in support of the Bill, May 24, 1819, he said, " the proposed mode of returning to Cash Payments ap peared to him the easiest thing that could be imagined. He would venture to state, that in a few weeks all alarm (about fall of prices) sepuld be forgotten, and at the end of the year we should forget that we had ever entertained it." And in his speech of Feb. 8, 1821, lie said Peel's Bill, " if it bad any effort on prices, could have only caused them to fall Alper cent. that being the degree in which it had raised the value of money." I would ask Mr. Ricardo how it has hap pened, that since the passing of that Bill, the prices of our farms (for I see many brother farmers in this room) have fallen 50 per cent.? And, secondly, what security have we that prices will not fall lower than in 17901. I hope that the occupiers of the soil will not deceive • themselves by looking for a Corn Bill to relieve their distresses. 1 never was an'advocate for that measure (though surely it would have been beneficial to me, oe _; my own land, if it could have been so to any so unjust towards the great mass or the people, `-;a1 wily to landlords, tithe lords, and thou, be by redeted ttaxiSlign ; bjd a,tle4alpelinii 11); wblic creditpufor it is, folly a pp jay lUcc. to.,tutpos.e., that their obligation is to be heid spered, nnd al) othersl violated. 111 prices the Britiih 'firnier does not want . : vtgailrptiees, titid - to be aliOWed 1:0 - ,pr - Oss and anin7 the fruits of his inditstry, and h,t .10. ham it takelY.o9 2l him by the rapacious hand of IssisuOsvernans% what he wants; but what will never bas allowed, but under a Reformed Parliament—(load applause)—and that, Gentlemen, we shall never obtain (for there are two factions , Whig and Tory, in the House of Commons equally hostile to the measure) but through the means' of that monster of consumption and corruption, as a Ministerial Member most incautiously said its the House of Conn sons,—that heal, contracted ,by Parliaments of Boroughtnungers. Gentlemen, I have already taken so much more of your time than I had any claim to, that I shall only repeat how sincerely 1, thank you for all your favours conferred upon me. . PRICE OF STOCKS TIIIS DAY AT •O'NE O'CLOCK. Rank Stock. WI 51 India Stock. S per Cent. Red....7Q 65 1 I Ditto Roads 11.. s 66s s. 3 per Cent. Con South Sea I 31 Per Cent 8611 South Sea Old Atm 4 per Ceuta— per Ce tit s. Navy. —6OOl. Is. 2s. pis. 3 percent • --Smnll 2s.pm.parlls.pin Long Ann .. 193-161 4; India for ditto. Insp. 3.per Cent [Con. for Acct.....77ii Irish 6 cer Ce4t...., Lott. Tickets. --W. oe.. L011tDON: SATURDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 29, 1821. The way in which the French and English Ultras endeavour to blazon forth dreadful disorders, as grow- ing out of the spirit of independence manifested by the Spanish people, is a proof that wherever the cry of freedom is raised, it is sure to be attacked with all the malevolence that hireling wickedness can dictate. We ■re told w•itb exultation that one regiment of Spanish soldiers has attacked another, and, as a matter of course, that the Royalists were victorious. That the Petticoat-maker and his Ultra Myrmidons should try to make the people hate each other. is natural. To the Km G's 'Ministers, to the Clergy and the Ultras, to their acts and misrlekds, the people of Spain ought to attribute every misfortune the country labours under. They have given rise to the bands of marauding flue- rillas, and to the op;bosition to the laws, the massacre of Cadiz, and the disrespect sheen to Royal Authority. To similar causes may the people of Ireland attribute the present misfortunes of their oppressed country. — We have repeatedly foretold, that instead of call ring the minds and appeasing the discontent of the people' of Ireland, the musket and the gallows would be the , remedies applied, and facts now bear us out. the hirelings exclaim, *, What shocking outrages! thi strong hand of the law should put them down !" The strong hand of the law and a •igoar beyond the law - - have been tried in vain for seven centurirP, and have failed. No attempt was ever made to remedy the manifold causes that gave birth to outrage ; no system of kindness adopted by absentee or resident landlords to amend the miserable condition of the people. Distrain, sell up and imprison the oppressed tenantry we e the cure. The abominable oppression of Parsons, whether as Magistrates or Rectors, the exactions of Tythe-Farm ers and petty Magistrates, and the letting of the land to different tenants, one over another, until these varied scenes of legalized plunder drove the unfortunate peo ple to illicit distillation in order to keep a bowel over their heads, have been the blessings of Ireland ; for if they neglected paying the Task-masters, their fate was that of a Noble Marquess's tenantry in Kerry, or those of a certain very Noble Lord in Limerick. The condition of the unfortunate Bipeds of Ireland, the recent ExEcuvioNs, and the crimes that en forced them we regret, but at the same time, we hold in abhorrence the cold-blooded conduct of those who are the true causes of the horror., and who ought to have checked the primitive evils. — They are not of a recent date ; they can be traced to a base system of jobbing lands, trading in tythes, orange domination, which at all times kept the passions open to "revenge, and a variety of other infamous oppres sions that can scarcely be supposed to exist, except by those who bad the opportunity of witnessing them.— The present situation of Ireland will be one of the ex cuses art forth by Ministers to continue the favourite measure of a standing army. The calling out of the Yeomanry was the most impolitic course that could bare been adopted by any men in their senses. We do not wish to say what these are now ; they once re sembled a set of Guerillas, led on by fanaticism, and were the active instruments of internal division. Their loyalty consisted in their hopes of power, profit and patronage ; and, among the whole, there was not one actuated by any other motive. Their employment new is neither congenial nor proper. Lord TALBOT'S suc cessor has a glorious opportunity of becoming mere popular than any of his predecessors. The conduct of the Noble Lord he succeeds, will be a■ admirable foil to chew off the wisdom of the Noble Marquess, whose first act ought to be to disarm these Yeomanry, and supersede the Orange Magistrates. Let the Nuble Marquess become a father, not an ungracious step father, bat a kind protector, and he will do more to promote respect to the laws than all the armies, Orange. Guerillas, or public meltdowns that Ministers eau possibly provide. The Noble and intelligent Statesman •We have more. !ban once g iven it as. oar opinion, ,• 1 • thatAag Parlialßeast oyirriat. Britninlit tietntltnr many years, &rambled' together ander c i reum ni a noes so ge nerally interesting, as promise to mark the inswing' Session. As the period approaches the plot thickens), We shall have the Greek cause on the tarts tWe ' , have the dismissal of Sir 11.1 . )11111IT . WiLsos fully dis cussed ; we ahall have the distress of the Agricultural folks pressing ~Lard upon the debates ; and what is more ominous to the hingera on, expectints and slaves of the present Administration, ,we shall have the disagreements and dissensions of the Ministers themselves held up to public. notice. There are some of them who peens to feel a little compunction for past errors; there are others who are getting frightened, and there is a third set who don't care about pushing matters to extremities, whose only wish is to place the oppressed People in the yoke, and then drive them into submission, obedience and silence. We shall soon be •let iotp4ll the jealousies and strifes which re mained einothprmi so long as the money came in, but now that there is danger of the taxes not being pet*, and every bne not obtaining hie promised reward, sonic will be for retiriug altogether, others will be for shifting the load on to his neighbour's shoulders, and shuffling out of the responsibility which will soon be more than a mere name. It is evident that relief must he afforded to the nation in sonic shape or other, and is doing this it must become a question, who is Ito abate his luxuries—echo is to go without his pension—who is to suffer a diminution of salary ? —They will none of them work fur nothing.— The supporters of the system will drop off one by one, and then the guidance of the machine of State will be committed to such as can be obtained to extricate the present men from their dilernina.— The loud complaints of the farmers at their meetings evince the sad condition of the country. Not half the • people in the metropolis are at all aware of the situa tion ofthe farmers. Not half of the people know that in many parts of the country the farmer, instead of paying his rent to the landlord, actually has applied to him for money to help him to pay the taxes. This certainly is occasioned by the low prices ; but, even low prices would pay the fanner were he not borne down by the numerous demands to meet the exigencies of the state. How happens it that low prices remune rate the continental farmers ? how happens it that the labouring men in many parts are able to-live on wages which amount only to 4d. a day ? The reason is obvious. There is not the same system of extrava gant expenditure, there are not so many drones, there is not such an overwhelming national debt call ing for interest—the taxes are net a tithe of what they are in England, in any other country. It is evident that the present race of farmers cannot exist while prices remain the same ks they are now. But it is equally evident that the prices never can be raised. — It is evident that all attempts to raise them will be ac companied with danger to the peace of the country — and it is evident that such attempts never can suc ceed. The crisis is much nearer at hand than people imagine. Neither Agricultural Meetings, nor Corn Bills, nor Gagging Bills, nor Loyal /Issociations, nor Thagooning, nor partial change of Ministers, nor all the bugbear about sedition and blasphemy will delay the period or avert the blow. Nothing but measures far different toe those hitherto adopted, nothing but measures quite new, and the most patriotic disinter estedness will save the farmer, the manufacturer, or wen Miniskis themselves. Extract of a letter from Charlestown, (S. C.) Nov. 28 :—Yon will see by the Havannab papers, that the whole of Mexico was said to be in possession of the In surgents. This account is premature, for La Vera Cruz bad not surrendered when the last accounts left. That place is to Mexico what Cadiz is to Old Spain, a strong bulwark. The6overnor, Colonel D'Avila is a firm friend to the present Constitution of Spain. Extract of a letter from Havannab, dated Nov. 14 : —1 am sorry to inform you of the loss of the Ame rican ship Packet, Captain Leavitt, 4hieb, on her pas sage from Cadiz to this port, was wrecked, off Cayo Romano. Tlin whole crew, with the exception of three seamen and a merchant, who was passenger on board, perished. The Captain was among the number who escaped drowning, but he died afterwards of thirst, on the Key. As yet, we have not been able to find out the names of the passengers that were on bo 'rd. PHILADELPHIA, Nov. 24.—Arrived, the schooner John Brown, from Curacoa. The Captain reports, that by arrivals from Laguira, the greatest tranquil lity reigned in Laguira and Caraccas. Produce was coming into market in great quantities, and consider: able shipments were making. French papers to the 25th have arrived by express. A letter has been received at Paris from Constantino ple, dated the 27th nit. the day on which, according to the French journals, the assassination of the Sultan is said to have taken place. From this letter.' it appears, that this event bad not only not occurred on that day, but there had not been any popular commotion, or move meet of the soldiery, that could place the life f the Sul tan in jeopardy. Frequent conferences bad taken place 'on the 27th and preceding days, between the English and Austrian Ambassadors and the Ministers of the Ports, at which the Sultan himself was present; and hopes are expressed that his reluctance to accept the *omen ski matron may bare been surmounted. Nothing, however, bad bee* decided. and the question of peice or war la rained in the greatest uncertainty. The last arrivals from Paris quote timAgur Cans. Consols as having closed on Wednesday at SO 50 a. ..) v. .0 t • . If • 0 I, li :lie indolence of nature, and app4eberision s o f ee t . r boldly undertakes and ardently engage s is a . oa ; .. t eloriimei mid polities:ems.. •it is h i t s th stietets.44 debt of millions and:of ages; who gives bea t to G the glorious example, which the brightest pag es o f.h er annls liav4, given , to the unerring eforts of mo d ern pairrotism. Here, where science first dutiful 6: lathed; and kindred humanity elle e t eso d no l t i k t proved. Here; a Son of Scotia rescues thh fair refits of the world from the insult of the infidel, ai m t h e trim of the barbarian; rouses to glorious deed s - the descend. antsof Leonidas, Themistocles, and llpasniaoadu; eolls the shade of the mighty brave; s a d b y t h e reinem, hrance of the sacrifice of Thermopylae; ti te a wak es glory of Marathon; and the immortal realm of Salamis; sheds a lustre over the Grecian cause; temmraten the regenerated standard of freedom ; and A st i*" i n re _ mote posterity the animated patriotism a their brass progenitors. That the gallant Gordon may enoble by his devoted example; may chasten by his benevolence. the Ontragn of civil hostility; may temper the ardour of the soldier with the humanity of Christian; may gain for him self an imperishable name, and for the Greeks a regene rated soil, is, I . believe, the prayer of every honest man, whatever 'nay be his party predilections; whatever the influence of habit; the contagion of example; or the force of inveterate preindice. The report of a seizure of arms in Zante is stated to have arisen in the following manner.—lt appears that after the affray which took place between a detach meet of English soldiers and the inhabitants of Z.►nte, in the attempt to plunder a Turkish vessel which bad heen driven ashore in Cheri Bay, both the naval aid military force at the island were mach strengthened by order of Sir Thomas Maitland. He then proceeded to punish the ringleaders in the affray, and afterwards to disarm the whole of the islanders, whose custea It had previously been to wear arms of some descdptieft as a part of their dress. This procedure cm:missed some resistance, which was overcome without Molt. shed, and it was understood to be the intention of Sir T. Maitland to disarm all other the islands, after having put the finishing band to the measure in Zante. Areport ues been spread at Corfu, that the Lord High Commis sioner would be recalled, and be succeeded by Sir W. Bentincic. _ _ . The fortresses on the Danube are full of Asiatic troops. There have been many executions in Servia, because commotions have been discovered between the Servians and the neighbouring Macedonians. Letters from Sidney, New South Wales, dated the 25th of July, have been received. Governor Macquarrie had just returned from a visit of inspection of the lower co lony (Van Dieman's Land), and many useful and neces sary reforms were expected to result from the personal view be hail taken of its situation. Among these, none appeared to be more imperiously called for than the es tablishment of a separate court of justice at Hobart's town ; the want of which was severely felt moue; a population every year rapidly increasing by the acqui sition of new settlers. A dinner of the Society for Reform was held oak, turday, to which Mr. Cobbett was invited. About sixty persons, principally tartars, were prewat;'!. Clarke, Esq., of Bergh Apton, in the Chair. Ms. Cobbett, Mr. Alderman Springfield, and Mr. Edward Taylor, severally addressed the company. On Thum day se'nuiglit twenty-three gentlemen, of yartnoutb, also entertained Mr. Cobbett, at the Bear Inn.—(Ater wich Mercury.) The Harleston Agricultural Association has met and passed some strong resolutions, and directed pr. titions to be prepared. Mr. C. Harvey, of Aldhsul., a very able man and of great experience, was the Chairman.—(/Lid.) BanvuQuase---The shack of an earthquake was felt at 50 minutes past two o'clok, p. m. on the 17th ult. in Moldavia. It lasted several soconde, and was particularly violent at Jassy. At a quarter past three o'clock three other strong shocks were experienced i* that city. They succceeded eaf:h other at short inter vals. Several houses and churches were damaged, and a great number of cbintnies and cellars gave we l. —(FI emelt Paper.) Loss or THE JULIAN,. EAST INOIAMAN.—No 41 4 is entertained at Lloyd's of the loss of the Juliana Fast Indianan. The two men who were saved from tie wreck have, it is said, arrived in town, It is under. stood that the passengers and the wife of the c aptaio lead, most providentially for them, been put os shore before the Juliana was driven off thee coast. There ate various reports respecting the number of persons who have perished, but nothing positive is at present known. It appears she was bound from Bengal to London, was a teak built ship, burthen between fire and six hundred tons. This ship was unfortunate. Last voyage she was driven from Ler moorings at Margate, into the North Seas, and nothing hot the most experienced seamanship preserved her from de struction. treat hopes are entertained that her reri pa o P engers were landed on some part of the root. P" to the melancholy event. Yesterday a Court of Directors was held at the F.ast India House, when the uadermentioned Captains were sworn to the command of their respective shlps,vit, Captain John Barnett Sotheby, London, Minitni k 1 China; Henry Andrew Drummond, Castle lienl k is Bombay and China. Qoaxxstitnav Leases.—Tbe seesaw of llNtec t6 a ' n of the leases on the Queensberry estate. in "'w k ." crees have lately been pronounced , co.ntained. the conclusions of reductions, conclusions against the tenants ' .iroh - The question was tried on Friday the ter profits the same very Bum tenants. that liable being in vii but he . A reports . Yarmouth ; 4 : itis 4ll . tie i aOP sac I gee 00 itoi It tri iiti ~! ~llrl ~~ . th a t t . . • i s, if•4' . , I..sF •. =< i ll i : i . .. ..,' t ' ! . . gels .) , 'l , , 1 4 i t ...... k ':.: ``‘• t. , ( .1 \ copying \ one), so and bee • ' l' • '• •i' . •pt ..* -• . :. s • s ' .. • i,, . %. • y Go eui rd b ot a t r : l l4;a b i ts. ree zt :, ... 1 , - --------- ;.,.. . • , .....,..__ • d - • . - Til iz. ST CI KII ~ .461, - . MR. GORDON. ! i o A p ut r PUBLIC MEETING AT MONMOUTH. r t 'u lettf, A T rfileu. 0* ••• a ' - f .ita s. illy . A --..-- a it for a mess - , • —asma-_ e e u us t e vb.% . i as .. tai as at ro . XIIISI . • c roreespon/lent of the Aberdeen Chronicle .I. . • • ectation for .. lie tv ' 6 w hllli the following 46 : .. 1 • itions fro* those l_ • I '. ' " 1 4. very forcible remarks on the az irlit" p [room THE BRISTOL MERCURY, DEC. 22.] Ilsiesp e y d ma w n Orl world , r b . After th e dinner at Monmouth, noticed in our last. on 4 it' a eo,to s A ivogds.ht re •, bi 1.. WI tithes, and bettyr and perpetual taxation ! follow tip! ,b t ta b e _ ta-tha...scounds....of.the cre& - - w se h t ic t l o s our thle c c r: v n i n a t z r - - . Mr. Moggridge's health being drunk, he rose to return ite - iii - ltraf _ a ; etynrette .., toaritame n surTe n e pvint• - t.re ' e? md,bx.wlic in the cause of the Greeks:— • set thanks, as be said, for the continued and ardent marks be bv reclaim! ttaxitlhon ; ..bk!acktlipriiiiiihe Iwili Ai I dent loireinti. . 4 ft f. " 13 a a .--, - 7 ,.‘f1-4sompias- awl tesmorsiosiisits asikNolpo.. 42• „„„ A __ - 1" 6 " . " ....".. 10ne past-loptlypirnyrie- its for violent profits. The questiou sy at Edinburgh, before Lord Cringletie, Whet her enants were Hale to the Duke in such kieleol ts, or by-gone rento and if so, lieu what P eriod lame behoved to br calculated ? Tito case 1 0 ably argned by Mr. Jeffrey, for the Miceof tlengh ; and by Mr. M u ncrieti, on th e part of tLe uta. His Lordship gave it a s his decided orido. the tenants on the Queenherry rotate were not e in violent profit* er datnageo, prit r to July 1 61 ' g the date of the decision of the 1104. s of lic't iris* of which these leases had ire. ltdi ce " he held thew liable subsequent to that decision. Berwick smack, arrived in the,lther ye•ter a q' arts having seen the wracks of Move vessels teadies stostb Sands. • Cbt &tab:Man. " IBS uiTlt<ll STATESMAN " IS INCOIRPORATSD WITS " TES STATION/04."