The Statesman. — London, England, 1818-05-23 00:00:00

I F i -, t rs r • - 1 - • . - iq fOr.the lepportig th e n , ' iontended, ought not to have Imo A sufficient 'Cum ought, in the first lei' tot Ilave' bee; set apart for • tbe iapport of "toy. A„lesick hirger sum bad been 'spender, b y el, than weliadWeilted ; and what he had fore. b ee n, had happened,' Gamely, that all which we had I iseeived had been iteg back again to France. ' )rd CASTLEREAGH ,said, the lion. Gentle. had fallen into an error in his calculation : the for the support of the troops had been foOnded the estimate of what the Continental troops cost keeping up. But it never was considered that the gem which 'applied the Russian troops would also eopport the English troops when it was well known that the eapences of the British Army wore'dooble Otiose of the troops of the Continental Powers. But Vbere were other advantsges derived from this Treaty, !tamely, the receiving 2,000,000 towards the erect ing fortifications in the Netherlands ; and In return Tor so assisting Holland, which we did without lozpence, we received from bet most valuable . Colony. The Noble Lord them entered into a detail of the different provisions of the Treaty, *bleb h e hid were highly advantageous to us. The Hoe. Gentleman had alluded to our claim for the main• tenst;ce of French prisoners, and stated it at seven =Pitons; but the Honourable Gentleman seemed to tirget that the French Government had a set-off ag ainst that claim to a very considerable amount, especially the claim for British prisoners ; and it was also still to he ascertained what part of this claim of seven millions the French Government. would allow. Mr. TIERNEY, notwithstanding the Noble Lord's explanation, was not satisfied. The Noble Lord certainly had, on a former occasion, stated that a sum was to be set apart for the payment of the army, end a second sum was to be sent to this coun try, which was to be applied towards alleviating ear berthens at home. Now this sum bad ewer arrived here; it had been swallowed up in the maintenance of the army. The Noble Lord now told as, that as . the two sums had been sufficient, we bad no right to be dissatisfied. It appeared that we bad now an army in France, over which we have no controul ; but it seemed that all oar advantage was, that we hero nothing to pay, and unfortunately we have nothing to receive ; and that the Colonies we had got from the Dutch, it now appeared, we bad paid for. Mr. WARRE replied. The Report was then ordered to be received to morrow. Some conversation took place in the Committee ire Ways and Wens upon the delay in presenting the accounts with respect to Ireland, in which Sir 41 OUN N IMPORT. Messrs. TI SRN IT, Losuroorow, 11 U SIC ISSOS, a nd A IUIVII% NOT, 104 A part, MC LUSIIIINGTON stating, that is consequence of the . ,ttpiott of the two Treasuries, these acceents would • .b.-presented much earlier to future. The Report tattle Committee was ordered to be trough , up to.rnorrow. A short conversation VOSS between Mr. Gout.- arms and Sir S. itomizzy, with respect to certain rapers, upon the subject of the Treatment of Negroes in the Island of Dominica. in which Mr. G. captain ed his oondact upon the question yesterday evening. ALIEN BILL. Lord CASTLEREAGH moved the third reading of the Alien Mr. BROUGHAM moved a clause, that any Alien ordered out of the country should be - at:liberty to go to any country he pleased, if a ship should be, found ready for his conveyeace to sech country. Lord CASTLEREAGH objected to this clause, because it *as likely to defeat the object of the Bili t i and to subject the country to additional wetter.. Lord CQMPTON disapproved of the Bill. which he deemed extremely elceptillasble in a state of peare. Mr. CLIVE (Under-Secrehry of State for the Home Department) opposed the clause. lie r' ri• tended that Government ought not to be at the pence of sending foreigners to any part of ibe woo le to which they wished to go. Mr. BROUGHAM expressed his astoniahm that the Noble Lord (Castlereagh), and the Hr o. Gentleman who spoke last, should pot such a coo 'traction on this clause as they had done. They hail, it seemed, discovered a new mode of interpreti• g Acts of Parliament, and he cengratulated the IV,' Gentleman in having attained this know ledge so soot, after his appointment.—(A krigh.)—They arguer that the Alien must be sent to any place—to Botany Bay, for instants—(A lough)—at the sixpence of tee Government. Now what wee the fact? T. clause said, that such Alien should have liberty to embark himself on board a vessel. &c. Did this make Oat that the Government was to bear the sixpence ?—That a right to embark in the good ship :Mary—( A laugh)—to Botany Bay, instead of Boardeene—(Hear hear t tad lassfk,)—or to Bonrdeaex, instead of Botany Bay, would subject the Government to defray the !spews of the staiscal coach to the coast, the cost em.boose fees, the pawl in the easel, the charge for stores. the stewasd's dues, the boat on leading, and the posterior carotin lag the trunks to the White Beer Inn, or the Hogelj de la Pais?—(Loud lan gsliiet.)—As this was 'WI first opportunity he had had, and would in all pee:, bability be the last he should have, of expressing his sentiments on this sabjeit, he now desired to enter his protest against the whole of downer*, to ex press his disepprobatioo,, not to pay , his abhorrence, of it. With a 'low to save thellime Of thek Heuer, he would now propose another chase, and 'they might be discussed together. This clause was to en able Aliens to be herd by their counsel or agents, as well as by amanita, before the Privy Council. It was nothing more than a mockery, a mere nominal or verbal check, to provide that the Alien himself; ignorant perhaps of the language, might be heard.— The Noble Lord, on a former occasion, had said that the Alien might be accompanied by an interpre ter : but it was not the interpretation of languages that was wanted : it was the habiluspradicas inter pretend' ken, and that could be performed only by a person conversant with the laws of the country.--' Be lamented that this mestere had been so little:nee I tired by the Public. Whenever a new tax wee roe! posed, or an old ope was sought to be '“geleilit the People rose from one end of the cestatry the other • bet on a point that so - vitally offeat. ed• the liberties of • the Constitution, end *lllO _ AN: 4 " ,7•Z: • . . • PriSW ,that -Oileh X Ads in or elmeeeeeiliii the' Mee et FAWN Oleg, were Wane indifferent, cold, and silent- It had,been. said that the. Bill Ives tat lb. guilty, and uot for Um ieopeent .; bet V such a power was glean, tbey might as well at ones give the mid of Justice .to the Crown, sod let ihe. Cali or i e Visiff 9. or, Whetter be might be, exercise the power of trying amt i trensporting whoever they 'sight think guilty., Ji, A. law was directed. as Mewed to be the ieleetlen, instead of galley Aliens, they might alter the word, and say guilty Seldeets. It was, in fact, neither more *or less than a suspension of the Coostitatiee, They were, indeed, in ' a sad condition If they were to pass a measure of inch vital importance es such gra:ads—if they were to proceed as they bed before done, upon reports which had been swedes and exaggerated till they reached and poisoned the eery ear of Lord St. Vincent.— (Hem', hear! and confusion.)—He should hive amid, .of Lord Sidmouth • but if any apology were due to the House for the mistake he bad made, it was much more due to the Noble Earl, whose name he had so unluckily couple) with that of the present Secretary of State for the Home Department.—No two men could be more dissimilar; and it was only because the contrast between the two was so striking, the energy and talents of the one so opposed to the inefficiency and &theistic) , of the other, that the two names bed bees brought together in his mind, and Earl St. Vincent's title obtruded upon the House in a debate, with the subject of which be had in truth no connezion : if he (Mr. Brougham) had been Called epos to point out two individuals the direct reverse of each other in all particulars that qualified a man for a high once in the Slate, he could not bate been more happy in his selection then when he mentioned Earl St. Vincent and Viscount Sidmouth. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman concluded his speech by declaring himself strongly against the Bill, and hoping the classes which he proposed would be accepted. Mr. CANNING contended, that the construction put open the clause of the Hon. and Learned Gentle man by his Noble Friend seer him was correct, for it said not a word about the Alien embarking him self at his own espence; and unless that amendment were made, it would remain the same as now, that be most be removed at the espence of the Govern ment. The Noble Lord (Compton) had said, he would vote for this mitigating clause ; but, perhaps, be did not know that ibis clause consigned the Alien to prison fora month until, by certain shipping lists be might find there, be should bit on a ship sailing to Chin, or any other country he Aosta choose to go to. It was not from any dread of our own tranquil lity Wag disturbed that taus Bill was necessary, bet because, if France were again mitivulsed, we must be drawn into the contest. Let any mats read the pub lioatious from the Press of the Netherlands, and he would see that there was still a kuut of teen who be- Hewed, that, if they had a station, they could open again the chances of war to their ambition—who said, with the Philosophers of old, 66 Give us but where to stand, and we will move the world"—and all we said to them by this Bill was, " Stead where ye may, ye shalt not ktand bore." Lord Courrom, Mr. BaouGuast, and Mr. Carr• , XING severally explained. Sir F. BUR,DETT rested his opposition to the Bill upon the ancient laws and Constitutiou of the ' -country: if Magna Chun, were- yet to be respected if it were not a disgrace at this time of day to rmi, ter to its salutary provisions, he should point it out to the House as affording abundant reason for rejecting the Bill now under consideration. The Right Hon. Gentleman who spoke last had complained that an Hou. Member (Mr. Iliongham) had on frequent oc casions cried troll I wolf I 'when no such ravenous animal was at hand ; but while Ministers persevered in measures like the present, the cry could not be too often repeated ; the danger was not only at hand, but - is esecation ; wolf 1- wolf ! ought to have long been the cry all over the country, for the enhappy People had long suffered under the rending jaws and talons of pitiless and insatiable wolves —(Cheers)— The Hon. Baronet then cited the authority of Lord Coke upon that part of Magna Charts which re spected the hospitality and protection due to fo reignen, contending that the words 66 publicly pro hibited," used by that great Judge, were explained by him to mean, not prohibited by Royal Procla mation, for the Crown never legally possessed that prerogative,' but prohibited by Act of Parliament. — The How. Baronet argued that the laws which governed its own natives of the country were suffi cient to regulate the conduct of foreigners, and to pettish their mal-practices ; and consequently that the object of this Bill, like many others, was only to lodge power in the hands of the Crown, in order that it might be abused. The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning) had asserted that, during the French Revolution, this country had been the refuge of all that was loyal and respectable ; but these were mere words, and he had offered no proofs ; in deed, it would be much more correct to state that it had become the lurking place of all that was degraded and despotic—of those who fled from the revenge of of an injured and oppressed People, straggling to regain its liberties. The real object of this Alien Bill was to aid that European conspiracy in which the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Viscount Castlereagh) bad taken so active a part, and the effect of it would be to destroy that haracter for generosity and hospitality by which the People of England bed hitherto been distinguished. Another of feet would be to drive all the talent and kip dustry of Europe to that' now only free country i chi world, Anterica. The Right Hon. Geittlensa bad objected to what he called making the Mess judicial, and foe the plain reason that it establish tome controul over the conduct of Ministers. - ll' would compel them to be less arbitrary and despotlei because they might be brought before another tr banal—the usual pretence of Ministerial respond Wily, by which the House had been so fretjaisatlf juggled, throlgh the country could not quite ao eaegy be deceived : that responsibility had been usedliiid abetted with regard to our own subjectti'viho bad been tyrannically and unconstitutionally imprisoned, sad was KA* be evicted, that it would be More re -1 spirted when the defenceless subjects of other Stags i:were earoceroid? Respoasibility in the first instance was wally converted into indemnity in the last, as ,was peavetra the case of the Habeas Corpus' seeps* Was : Ili feet,' Ministers, wetting more controlled by to espoese.—(Hear !)—Tbe Right had reproached the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, (Mr. Brougham) with inconsistency in opposing4heie injurious and unconstitutional measures. Dowbelepe, judging from the conduct o 9 the Right Honborhble Gentleman, be held it a disgrace to edition to the same opinions or to the same fri•ods..--Olear, heat!) He enjoyed all the advantages of inconsistency, and those who resisted this moaners could long ego have partaken of those honours if they would have con. rented to the same mental degradation to procure theta.—( Loud cheers.)--Tito only danger pointed out by the Right Hon. Gokstleman arose from a few discontented individuals La the Netherlands, who sought a fulc►um for their engine of destruction; but it was singular that, at this was the only danger, it had to-night been broached for the first time. Mr. CANNING explained. He did not mean to state, that if France were disturbed by internal corn motions, ibis country most necessarily be involved in a war ; he bad only referred to certain foreigners, who were attempting to equip the two nations iu new hostilities. Mr. BARHAM opposed the Bill, astotally unne cessary in time of peace. Mr. W. SMITH opposed the Bill, es sapping the best principles of the Constitution, and affording no advantage whatever. Sir J. NEWPORT contended, that, by the effect of this Bill, the blood of Waterloo was shed in vain, end that tyranny, by being permitted In one place, would spring up in another: he therefore, hoped the measure would be treated with the abhorrence it merited. The House then divided on the clause, sad ,the numbers were— Again* It, - - 87 • Fur it Sb Majority 62 • sir S. ROMILLY proposed a clause, to except all Aliens resident in Greatlßritain or Ireland on the Ist. of January, 1814, and have resided ever since. Lord CASTLERAGH opposed the clause, sad It was negatived without a disjoins, — Mr. BROUGHAM proposed a thillait estx women married to natural born subjects. ladiei were liable to be sent away without charge or , accuser. A MEMBER on the Treasury Bench asked if the Hon. Gentleman thought the conduct of Mi nisters could render such a clause necessary 1-d-(411' iavgh.) • Lord COMPTON thought the House bottpd is honour to admit the clause. The House then divided on the clause— Noes 87 •• Aj es . . • 37 Majority - • . 60 rr is. • Sir S. ROMILLY proposed a clause to allow Aliens Counsel, which was negatived without a divi sion. The Moose then divided on the question that the Bill do pass— Ayes . 84 Noes • • . 29 • Rinjurity . 65 The Game Purchase Bit was read a third time and Visaed. Atim Petition of the Ship-owners and Merchants 'conceruecl in the East India Trade was referred to a Committee on the motion of Mr. B. Stint► : as Petition from the Proprietors of the East India Docks, praying to be beard against the allegations of the former Petition. The other Orders of the Day were' then disposed of, and the House adjourned at Half-past Twelve o'Clock till to-morrow. • LAW INTELLIGENCE. - COURT OF CHANCIMY, May tlt. This being the first day of Term, the Lord Chen cellar came down in the emit state, attended lit Sir T. Plower, abe Master of the' Rolls, and Sir Yoh Leach, the Arige-Chinctitoo.! 110.10 . 61ip 'lollli . 4 nasal, att dRd ,by 01 the Jukesotehoept , s Galore ' l athe is kediaposed... 11 ,W .1..: On entotinj the cioort„ bi,a1 4 ,0 necessaiiii s obligeric; go to 1114 jionso of L thar his -flotitfue the virixtlikeeftii ly consented to hoar -intsitrind foehiteolle ANC e cnuats he 00041 , 41410 F4actimiepplegabelpre da7."7•Tb!PDXlPPtinifergitrld .64. *" o 4 o A l4h, !P i t inept et meth meeei ni sieetritl i er ' the Dvii of Norfeiffi. n Tait if 1.0.10? Paid) 'Coortti.i . -thr Oreiltlttoitio'dis4 eir a . el Potted ) . oh Meirday. 4,;-1.. r. • 4' • : r '` ~ _ - - -'°- ''''. '' '1111111711121111ffiaMMIP"'' 2 ='"a"46114 this stalking befits respewittbillty, than thee hall'heen.. , " COURT OF KiNo's BENCH; Mai IL by the natural feelings of henweity Ind the dictate! •'1 "' •'. cRIMIN 4 L INFORM MOM. ol conscienge.—(llenr4),,,,,,, ..„ . , , M -a 1 , r. CLinitt moved f o r a Criminal Informitinel ~ Sir S. ROMI L I LY . was ensiciui to embcpce Oar egai..st Mr. Drikaitl,ProprieteroftheStoreforeetver, last opportunity 4 ;Malting the p rogress of this for a libel anon the Matquis of Exeter, published on Bill It was urged that its operation would be au" - ' the lath of Marsh last. A we. , k before tile appearance lined to criminal tototOletas *A yes, wit* singular! Of the libel, a paragraph bad been inserted in the incootisteucy, the Right lion. Gentleimins(Mr. (;an-" same Newspaper, stating, that s. ifs certain Noble- , nine)had olgected to the clause which gave tiiityntY mao in the neighbourhood of our borough, it tech I accused an opportunity of stating his mean case. and calls his borough, dues not deiist from certain pier. Om, disreputable to himself, '&c:, se shall think it 'being heard by Counsel ; so that, in fact, Ott (bemireliens, which was tobedirected against cdminsiforeigitersyn fit to give him a gentle admonition." In cnnsequence, to be so framed that no Means wets allowed to met- iti the Paper of the nest week a letter was printed, Min whether they were innocent or guilty.-(Hetti., addressed to the Marquis of Exeter, who resides hear ! )— Tbe Right Ron. Gentlemen bad also said, dose to Stamford, *here the Newspaper is publish. that be should be satisfied if the power weSe lodged ed ; this letter commenced by adverting t o th e hi g h in the bands of au English Gentleman. Uudouht. ran filled by the Noble Marquis, and to the high edly the Secretary of State for the Home Department ,duties he wail consequently called upon to discharge; was a Gentleman, and, of coarse, the Right Bon. end after cots plimenting hies upon his youth, health, Gentleman must be contented that the execution of and yet unearned reputation' it went on to notice the Bill were intrusted to him; it was of no cense • th e bi asse d ed ucat i on o f his Lordship, under clerical gamma whether he bad the talents or the fined& auspices, and the disposition, naturally arbitrary which became a great officer of Statt—whether he and despotic, which guided hii actions, referring to was likely to become the dupe of spies and in. what h a d oceutred on his Lordship's birth - day ; in formers—he was en English Gentleman, and that was 1816, in illustration; his influence, however, would enough.--[Heqr, hear 0--The Right Ron. Gentle- avail a yUun g Noblettian but little when he intsdvd tleman never thought of satisfying the ceuntry—..if , the hallowed precincts of decency and Morality. The he were satisfied,. nothing more was necessary . He letter then censured the mode in which a Capt. Percy had also asserted that France could not be distaqed rpde about theityeeta of Stmeforti; edding, that hOw. internally or externally, without such in effect knot ever degraded Solos of the inhabitants Might be; the produced upon England that she must necessarily be' majority Writ ant yet, willing to be played under the embroiled in the contest. Surely this was Most sUrveillance 4 the house of Burleigh and its agents. alarming intelligence in dthe proseat Mats et oar Every man's hove had hitherto been considered hitt finances, and coming (rota such a quarter; it. wall mile, and eltheogg_the writer a( this letter would mach to be dreaded that, should the tranquillitt, of lot assor t ‘ th a t his Lordiiiip had yet ventured over France at any future period be disturbed, the "'Jo- the threshold df any of Aliem s , yet his conduct indl. pie of Great Britain *Gelid be spots to bear • cat,...1 that - Cis LOrdsbip, issiwt last approaching new burdens and to undergo new &initial' fOr tha t a vial which wiii most of Al itristructive of the support of that interest whiehlitioisterelhongliC fit peke and, hippiness of society.. It then enquired _ __ - _. lausaw by ._ _ • . .. his Lordship continually rode up , ,tortArn. th e streets of Stamford, making the fronts Wail the houses the object of his rigid storp 7 -hoar he mid condescend to become a window P 1 1 44 1,5, l itackflglillit ell the well-looking females he ell!d discover; acid ,why he disgusted the modest ain6Si4i o( the inhabitants by the obtrusive winks of mobility, followed by s blown kiss? To say the least of „it, this conduct Wes indecent, and as his Lordship had 'most amiable sister, the writer put it to him bow liP teisuld like bet to he subject to sock treatment. His Lordship might bespeak plays at the theatre, and the buskin'd hero might proclaim hie Lordship " a rare one for the girls," or he might press . the cheek sof a modest female in the box lobby, but such conduct was unworthy of any man, much more of an individual so daubed. The letter pro. steadied to state, that though the writer would not as• sort that his Lordship's conduct was immoral, it oho Willy had that tendency ; and if, among the younger part of the weaker see, some Might be found who use derstood his Lordship's eacelleut dumb discourse, yet the better informed and better regulated females would despise such addresses, which could only ter. mina,e io infamy, and deprive honest and indestrir parents of the consolation of their old age : such be. baviour might give pleasure to his Lordship, but It gave great pain to others ; like the boys and the frogs, it might be spirt to the one, but it was dea th to the other : his Lordship had probably not left school long enough to have forgotten the .• story ; but if he bad, his friend and companion, Cap tain Percy, would be able to interpret and apply it. After a few other exhortations, and a quotation or two from the Scriptures, warning his Lordship to " go, and sin no more," the writer concluded by stating, that if it were not effectual, he would renew his attempt with outstretched throat, to tell his Lord ship what he really was, and what consequences awaited a perseverance in his misci•nduct. It was • signed, " The Proprietor of the Stamford Ne4a." the paper of the week following cun'aiutd wipe ference to the application made on the day of. igst Term for a criminal information, in which Mr. elarkeliad stated that Mr. Drakard, the Proprietor k of the Stamford News, had expressed no contrition; qiii i irr:Oprietor added to this paragraph, (after quoting li vw Stliat this eitful begging for contrition would be of .e ; and be recommended his Lordship's Coop s k l abere to truth when npsi r ipe,moved for a cri isittailiforrnation. Mr. Clarlite t ,,, te y . reading these . , Ogir,iicts; Apt:veil, that the lib e) Wppidely I. lbilesl‘the neighbourhood Kiiii‘Arqois of p ` residence, and the otie s ct, was. to ,trellgre Itship's chara . ctor among those with Onus ho was •1 • . . molt beady , conueclea. lee present station "pa made to . pet,e stop to such calumnies as impotod to his !•11114,411 lie rode about the streets of State• fOr for the purpose of selacting.pbjects for his illicit amours. Led ELLENISOROUnIi asked it the Noble Marquis denied t• a imputation ? Mr, CLARKE answered, that ..his Lordship hed denied ail the charges, except that of riding through the streets of Stamford ; that be had certaiwly doge. Lind Et.t.srtvonouos.—But dors be deny those courtesies tendered to Ladies atAfie windows, and which aPpeai to have been so offensive? Mr. CLARIEL—He siva that the charges are groundless, false,. and• melicioes; that while riding dumb the streets, or in the boa-lobby, he had not conducted himself in any indecent or improper man. nee so as to violate the decorum doe to the female ter ; bet, on the contrary, tbat he had at ways shown a told and friendly conduct towards the inhabitants of the town, the real cosjority of whom are his Lordship's tenants. 9. cannot deny that ha has ridden through the stivets, and while so doing he probably did not shut his eyes. Lord ELLEmsoaobot —Does Lord Exeter woo, that while so doing li e "did not conduct brow fin a manner toatfraCtalopoticeof femaltsat the windows, erelsewhere? *as CLARICt repeated, that his Lordship had eerf., that what was alleged against him was untrue boa nisalcioiss; and if the other side could show that listitad done what they imputed, it would follow of tfiMitte that his Lordship had sworn what was Wm: ehildemor litres timid not be used than those in the 4000 the. Noble Marquis. - • Etuelostogau observed, that, the Matilda of soar miikt have denied each charge specifically, tWiliWirent to *oft that he had Intruded upon the glitoistut end deoesey of the ;dace. -blit.'CLuitradded, - that his Lordship bad doss 'l 'mA to prose the Wart to be I false libel. 1 1 beck 'a ° ° w tl done. ism*, tbe An ,by ell Peen ireive bort open hod ft e n the keepin t • • A