The Statesman. — London, England, 1820-08-29 00:00:00

`- .'" - . .. . Lie ari ..vattyte, alth o ug h' by . that revoi`ation'yon n:d a lire ua of that which it 'or 'clear; airscrlitte,- 1 arfte rte riiolit—whith is. indeed a right allowed to all !to eser water defendant or party avcused. Dis• pc . r •-.1 a i we. n-ere in the tiro petitions to which 1 Lori :e 4. referred, we were still, •f repro: tea to hope fur i tipisusosiassfatiol-by that hope • %erg pecsuaded to: be :v/1e parties. to this proceeding, which, without such' a it7..ensultin *cute prove a mockery; and not a trial. J•ii• are Went be stiß.tiertherslisapponutil? Whileetor.y. Le antagelosi.bora.granied that could operate vomit es. . 12 41.a1l untr. be allowed that may tend to opet a t t ft.** n • • '' White we' fierthe Ail dshle of teinflOrr2dgetnentS. - 1.; : sibou r on* nothing-to your fesendidupi . Let till% vt;4ll4.or‘nhipt te'reroklect. that you are punning a eon rge if is jptlf4t e4 rititoat precedent, while y o i are es ti • so rio. a' i ohr that may lead Ito: . treat **Met !'.!!caner etio to eattae r in apt deNlee.parallel. bas..ani 41 . 1 W of pt o ineeding been adopted li Mitt Is 1.4.:,1 %on ale :it rront purtuint. 111 - tiettrtalltet i'l, 4 c i , ttlrVporiliel.eatessi•divntee, i oaeolsb as " Pr* . c rtfVt9sPise t rtaq tlittiest . luttance. instituted in the Courts 1 ;.'91! 1 .it onid cite the p ie of itie - Duchiss of Ittnrlcilk". t'i th; 64' file DICSON'i reisenter Praetor ; your lAintit!rrsitit astatov Was othcer.tn Doctors' Commons •--140 0 ersiored so wend._ 'llls or der is 1 11fi Jan. if-alt Om tso 4*i! si .sppetfic.uies of the *sego was t ..-aislie4,._ 1 n the ifilo it wait toblebted !Mir the" spetti ,:atTi:ti ffsi eri'itifeloo'rinciA4l;:iiiii• oft • the *Mat ca, 1r thxvo Won ilia:was .ressotedibi +:rare pactietlar .I;446otiett.. t/p kite 244 die witnesses fur the Duke 1 v - -eib6il-.111 ib fhe AO, hal two triply pages of yonr faiNl.WOlotroPutwottoro dale/ with ntv. other matter :t.,' An lIINi t ottuipitaoen, •2: tose proseediais . wfre, toff 1; ..e 3e l !,law eapression, i s initiodibirstlie witnesses; be-rie '4l6lmo:eat rtillieli- - -names.'sitiailtins; ind'plaies 1 e• sbode. All the witoemes welt "Womb. the Piehtm's i':octor *at. and the wilnessis were allowed to be cross evnputttlitccisely in the same manner in...which your Liordylkips'lia've - hith.:rtO alloired us fe - ertosi•esatinine.; • Isiii• irons asked such questions an " When dill . yost Ism tii liermale's; &c., in short. tbe usual latitude of • ross-vcrisination was permitted. Ater this a delay of twee, Aar Was giairted, in order to afford the • Mottos, or cre,ostunity.of obtaining niateriais for cross•exasisin-! et: ilie 4wit.briir". sow, my Lertis At is not proved ' I! it 1 ought soot to quote this case. I say, fought to c.:,itie tliit'etis. and I 'Arm that it is in . point. - : It Is •t.:wftrst esite--it is the leading case—it is the ruliog cdsil ij Caned in the Books„ tli % :. great raie of tl!vorce. 1 ' itectuae - this Is the 'Anti ease upon which all subsequent' tomes at: built, because it 4s teriried-by test Writers the greaten* of divorce, it scents 1 am nut to bq 4lowed to cite it in a ',ltse of diOorce. '1 sa'y eniphatically this is i4"tieiiee to ik hi rim your Lordships ought to-look. But " at is goo that since that time no specification.of charges gr mimesis., has been allowed in Tills cf DiCorees. Lin ennbtedly not, and *for a very obvious reason ; betty* in Oitiubvenateiit cases there hart beep previous proceedings • it the Courts,lirloo, which rendered such a specification (I;lleresitary. the Ditehese of Norfolk's case *as the only • c iNe, mull litidfore your Lordships' ittentlein to this fact, . le orlthrb.len •retterseineda Bill 9( Divorce without pre ...raons policetsfing. fin the I:olarts below. Yourtordsliips " "tt re(v.dlit the !fill. - The second' ffine the Duke of Nor folk brought op the 11111. tlrere-.was no specification of •• , te`trairies of wltnrswr, because the proceeding", in the t.ourts hekow famished a much more complete spccifict ,• bon than any protettling% in foltiatibos could possibly et , . To any t liii•Oefbte. that this is a case of no meth*. City. becluiselt is the fast case, and because since doe t,int • easeshave oi-currra under totally different MOW ~ • ~ ,-, rotlitees, if - .bid] there - • -'l7feelßeili gm/ in tto- _ . was ntr'astreasiditifor key eatlon, is a piece of riasoning which were it upon s7tch an ouraiion, and in such a place,•l should' call c',;ldish and rontemptible. So much, for the ease of the 1/ochre( of Norfolk. in which, allow me to observe ' . that . P.Tee or lain icitureses opal the eraniination.li thief jaivrtditretly to the fact of atinltely. One swore to •Tfivfitg *en the parties in bed together, another to /savior seen thelhichoui come out of the bed in which t!.e suppreel adulterer was bring, and soother to having eamest the parties in the fact in a room at Windsor. in short. the evideuse opened such scenes of horrible i lica.ythat I -cannot venture tsen to allude to them, lc tie taco:list MC'S were detalyd with a MillieefleSS . .s. partirdlnity 'tidal Ido not remember to have seen Ar" Inv other else cif this deicifAion, for almost every •th `ni 4%' peeved' bi- 'tortilla demonstration. ,'Notwith ...orinding these depoiittons, however, so material was'the .',asip : s. t itansinotion, not one quktion of Which' wonld t;aaF hero pot if 11.. Ductless lieil-not. been allowed a specifiration of, particulars, that in consequence of this cross-examinstion, _the witnesses were all three discre 11'ted. and votir Lordships teed pleased to throw out the WS. .11y Lonli, fdo not notleirrite and remarks upon W)e erideire hi•dris ease, for to do so t it the present Arlie of the ptocertliags, I should consider irregnlir,' ihjsud, indecent. if any one had set me such an esam p:e,.l 'Mold conceive it to bean ciatspfe moretionottred the - breach than in • the observante. Of course no Ridge could bare set the example, no person who may :ylltiobab(y be called upon hereafter to deride won his .- niloit on thn, guilt or innocence of the 'teeniest rook! 'hie set. Ad monstrous an *simple of indecorum; bpi If Ire had, I.should have abstainN froM i following t from tottatireit a iononnu decency. I mention thli cirenni ;tither forties rtlit of shelving bow iinpoitant.ln the case of the Duchess of Norfolk., was pier Lordship' ii i ihereore to the rule you then laid - 7dorrinnvltieli on Spliinky last you appeared. hi, have repeatee..ie , - the ifirit !Iteogh not ip the letter,. and whsah .1- fm-stotr emilhal , Upon - to:.sliew that your . Lotcrab - Ift *might Ilk lo kbahllon. My Lords, the MIA of: Whir I have 'to !Windt w your Lordship, b Writ ysiti Arc flhw reem4log the extraordluarr•stdvnotatei - itiikil . mopeo . meet in the 'easel of these proceedings, - andlibit • tit I "2 .n ow !Wise "Wad in this. camp- eitßatilni: it is any imilify reeesligfi, though. wi t her. • bo/o.plaged is lac y artist sl nation 'iron; idfortlinary cassoosith Ai* illo Die' adrintege of not Wilk' pieparefloy our afeiftlthi MI Lords, hiol 'a - mite inpaitfti If 1. 7 - a meadroot a nd egl o eg aides *-tms.AblidellPfllr bi . .i a the „weeder-4 . van, of tO . the trostezamination imutediate4 fol lope c if enOtiVt.atiost. without rensisitherlitg ti ut t i l t 1 . ! =Of* ii Oh foLgatbat wt th fu e eci tin u i r;s: t otlet i tti sat,. oeis „set: Arp ° Vie 114 now* the 'specific- Week 10-iihish the • which he is ehargals:adiged radiate boas . Such le tbs . Way in. winch. the. itulK ref .srdld , by your Llordohips:—in l oit ir Savi o rs ! ' .. arr i o ur edshirt ni tte ll ei r ip l ai l rar t eZribik f r ig or Lordikipli 'Of 4tHroviit '' lugs the rules of thicesiasea lardE . .. • y . 1 ask for dotbitrg emeellii nntbisg better; but do Not. a Lords, adhere:Wl:ow rules only whim they Main the 'Queen, and absolve your-' atilves front them -whesseirer they opiratele.her ohms. earl. lam tad, however, that we do enjoy no mitre ordlhast advantage not conceded hr. ortilemy eases, easuely, that when the *hole of the case is gene through, we shall have two mouths allowed us to-prepare for our &dame. I" wish I could take comfort Item this sup.' - • advantage: To, ml• itdappoles to seed. 4n - its: trlsliwyjoro - — .1'46400N . widuallt say , a us e ii llgtMh,gt geo he dela see, alllo.olll l klll 4 4 ; • . kcal prejudice the Naiads the J I 5 1 1 posed extraordinary advastag I , have triits as qppselle semi , 1 ceodisebialiteithasslsiiklal 1 mess exasdastioe at a t la i eseadisstisa. do all the detail . 1 sorb as it Noy be. dro Awe.* bt exambeseimi, toprejudice Aram , ladslies Illiijesri 'toed, •s's - net, 1. have : no doubt, a delifeerale ~ . , • humbly forlibAie purpose.. •Are ordinary proceedings riposteu _ eseneishusent. was equal to our 4 Jintment, to • ihe 'Weight of such foul, malignant misrepresents- when Alter all the promises which roar ...Lordships trei?* usiirst•ZtatioD the more dangerous, and • the wad e . alter all the hopes which your Lordships •i • twe;rs:Tatal, Veit is nit ente.hYtion s . but ,titlashood behrout to us some weeks ago, your lordships now inliesktp•wiiii And fitted t o t ru th,. f ur the purpose of tell As that these hopes, raised by yourselves, are • detra.'fien •ITW:t is one of the peettliaeities in which to be annulled. that they are to be dashed away from ' *tie aiss:pliteset. nod which might to operoate as a reasouloorlips, aid that we are now to have to snore, or ra 'sgilitet yerifLetthships - only allowing us the ordinary. titer infinitely less advantages than in an ordinary ease, adirldfaiesatlefetvellpersons have a right to claim. But, tfoot Lordships think fit, under these new and 'etre itiei.Lor.le; 1 wiliereed a little more iutodetail„ut show or din ar y circumstances, to compel as to go ok to sit in the atteleitite: nu llity of this. e ete aue ,ti n . l ee. benefit as it is this place, and hear witness after 'Winless exhumed , estitet - •lenif of eunr-Lord,hips. I doulst not, esteene it updn points °lleitis+ we cannot form even a conjecture, in asitifftage,enately from not knowing the role of law : ves te e ting eoe t ioct-all ever the globs, for. six or seven. nail noiti Snare to sheirLordshipe what the rule of liar is, ; y eoc a • —•Her e we are to sit, and grace wills vat corporal and if litette it ineorreettv.. 4 eleeite to . . be interrupted. presence the solemnity of your Lordship's proceedangs.•• gaplitisl. a witnesngoes throng!' A fair teem' nation, mid. lily lords. I haws elready said that I have been called dial harems materiels for creees-examination, .havlng 1 erste If show the Obierfieu3 Which exist against your tie,.wit v"tee9 o 4!le.ni,..tneas before, and his very eatatence.un• ilordsleipie rule, rather - thhh to point out. affirmatively 1 tenoi.to sty e - in tell 'die 1 lerav cross-examine this (any other mode of proceeding. indeed It is much easier le withe troala be nelly to ettrik from me an bum bl e •to do the onetime to indicate the other. We are sensible achnostledgeieht fu 'your lorilstilps for whit I ft/Wanly 'ot the thaadvastages unties which we here laboured from 440 end aceept, hrit saiet 1 )Ate not•dte menses of •ticeepte timeervoutset of theseßroceediqgs ; „but notwithstanding log.- 7 :-Tbil wleneis gOe* Out thy twO months uncentras ' these (gond vantages, we le areendeavouted to th e best of our dieted.: .A . not,comptein af the delay arising from power te perfitem'our datY.. We relied erste your Lord -1 Aist.ssecey "is an iaonvettience which falls eqnallit s hip s peOenises; and we are astonlshol and staggers d.to j; open. buttaA: es. If eour Lordships bad greased a delay tiiid, that instead of fulfilling rhos • promises, scour lord -1 skt. "1 1 t • • tig;ntla in ihe 6rst instance; instead of two s hips n o w propose to.rescind them, Before I cowhide, II" " c`Vn 4 a 7 "ed ih inqdriel 'fther half the'ialee I skink it right to correct '.material .mistake with re it k had- .el heird, .sait'siatedd have avoided all thud die- spent to w h a t pa s sed when- tise witness, 'lliajoctili, was mile: it 'which you . now dell yourselves placed. If. & celled up the secotta dine. 11 . am supposed to have i speeincation el partieulirs had then been reenteil,.4 I pledged in self on that isecasion not to cross-exesitine that I should ii.,te been able at Oec to crovi-exatnioe the 114- : witness a IS. coed time. It is so stated upon emir' Lord ! iesees. and l• :hoed, have had no eight whatieer to 34'k ' ships Minn. el, sad I suppose I can aver **thing against 'oe slstla. It is from the refusal of voui rtotiLsitipe lb' the reeved. At the same time it is so utterly inconsistent I grant this seciiii:ntion that a%l the figheirriy 'seism , 'ill with all the olsservatiotes I. have made upon this sitbjeet, Its yery..ease fur Jour lest‘slitps to et*, "* do as no •th or at.ro Lordships ips will allow tp state what I did say i Comte-of Justice. • Aro as coon as the plaintitrs abet en tiiat ograsion. I admitted theirregularity of calling I la coaaroleil the 'other Patty lidmediafely. eaten., elajocei during die examination of an tiller witness, and I PPon: hit defence." 4dine• tut volt lordships have, ; I pledged myself not to repeat that irregularity WWI even said, that it 'is• it • great •evif if the defence * the ca.* had'hien opened, but y o ur Leta/ships will be is postponed in ordinary rases ' for • a single dity i .ilut pleased to retedlect that l• did not wave the liberty of they who made. such ati oli , ereadin ale evidently I erotee-examining him a. second time. I ought to *polo igarraanti that on . ili c t i li ti i i r , p ii r a ci li n n e i re n i d e i v c i t o m u i le m etrls i z r z th e: t l i t s ip . 1 gizelotuayour portion nrioshf To s u f r or ti h m a e vin ifut 9 r ap ass u le r d e w yourl s e t a i l rd- e. i criminal rises, iltit4i4oXether with their allPsiscfellntilibips that I should not have dune so hull not thoughtit i the defendant brae-v*o l 4 in possession of 111ACPrrel'us.kAjoutilptely necessary that your Lordships should hear informationwhich ire reeved from your Lorshehips i whit we had hi erg, before you plunge yourselves into justice. To souse of. your. Lorsisfar Art mew eppear 7 the course which you ere about to pursue. ! sitite extraordinary;m if a man alienTir hot . lie:called • Mr. Dessian would not have trespassed on the time upon to answer *for. hit life: without' *any pfeViles of theirjlewalskdip j bv elf . ..ring any argument, after that information, but %itch Is the Get The law. ' be le* which *0 bemeffild'uced, but from the deepest sense of c'i'te,, or ode.areeeeturs.less lewyer-like then esassenf your their Lpnisliips wishes to give the case the utmost coo- Lordsbips, no man earn lib' p..t open his trial without 1 sideralihn. There was no security for her Majesty,— Whelk wolves' at the nature of the offence wilt which Cheri vas go *entity for the meanest subject of the be is charged, and the characters or the *Witnesses wbol real ~ —thestawaa no security for any one of that august are tea - ssgport . .it. - In a common law' pilweedieg therm llithrbit who*theo sat judleaally, but may hereafter be fore, a man se Tailed • upon .tu enter upolt hie i Owen charged with cribsinalitY, if the restrictions without, ally unfairness or breach of justice,* beitasse it t n . proposed should be carried into effect, and its leit own fault if he is not prepared. Otte wolkl.mole • ele r.rendre-the whole proceeding a mere mockery upon cress-e*aniluatlon. the Noble Lords fblkilt there' a a name. On 4 fall cross-examination depended Is e re li inherent virttie in a Cuttusel--tio'th Bells tike , • • .• - ea. i evdr . ir ; s ilting s. and, if Counsel were. prevented from there, is such ;Ingle in his dress, or *even in don, or the proßssiosel.habits be mat have 4 siftleg•evideDest really and substantially, then was the that the moment s * witnowAsis been eiamiotel • yogi. • life and props:4:4l every man at the mercy of se- Lordships' Oar, e may tlle rWeel ;quid and enoSt to he i Imbrued end Jo retches. Ile would caution their prepared to cross-examineedm ? I think very few of your , Lordships aga i ns t m i a ow - ft rew i o Lipos oo ,, d ay , w hi c h, Lordships can hare fallen into so gross an error, bu t 1 'on the Morro*, they migtt time 4 necessary to re am afraid. that_ many Of your "Lotilsltipi, some 4 w hom,_ om triad. lie wonls hot i Mg Th em as lawyers of I know to Ins vast . enlightened, just add honourable . t Mt he se ....•- .. appeal to them as men I Man, have fallen into some mistake with: revere to. die relined estmknites Hall i aupposed.adiirtive of this eetrsordittary delay. '1 - shall of refined aid eitirrated Oda, whether, if the means now,•therefore. proceed to sleek, that this esiraterdinarsr; of etoseOttamittallelb we fb - denied, it were possible dehiris of no ise.whattever. In-the first plate, the putt- that` subsantial justice could be attained. In cases lie-alias of these proceedings is ralculated to poison the I public mind. and the Judges. whonre usixed,with that - . of High Tre.tson, the accused not only received a list . , of witnesses with their names and places of abode, public, must be suture or leas influenced by it. In the next { place let pse pat c a.case. estippse, ID tbe averse of tile next three or four wee - k;..iiist I cow to the knowledge of any but no other witness could afterwards be called by the L rown unless named tied described in that list. Even eircuinstsuces, the elfect of which would be completely t o iu case a perjured defence should be set up, on destroy tot teitimonyof a witness abs :leas. been rte-. another trial only, and by fresh witnesses, could mined; for example, _that he bas received a sum of : that defence be assailed, and the perjury detected? money upon eondition of sweenng against the (deems. , S u pposing any Noble' Lard to have relations travelling n3y, 'farther, that the co/ivied& of the Queen is Loon abroad, in Egypt, or elsewhere, and charges were anion precedent - to the payment Of the niokey : itmay *gild* th em, they could bare no other mode of surprise persons unacqueinted with the raise of ismal.ft m_aar may lappets; extraordinary pp. Lay Lords, though-Ludt. defence than. .a free cross-examination of the wit ed Lords are of 'course . aware of what I ass about to newts. .And supputing, farther, that the advocate had I state, that though I have tea *Dames - In prois this , his client by his side, who told him that the accuse atrocious case orbribery, I. should be enalili to off ._ er i l i on • was false, and the acnistr. unknown, must it i l ian nie. f to li tis t a ad ia ' au P ee ' l.wi aniaes i r ! not the. character of the witness be examined, so as to cross-examined perju r ed lrielia.sel w * s testimony r I bad' previously asked bins. whether he head renewed determine whit ere . dit was due to hi ' - such and such sums ' of money: • If I had asked this, 4 1 But, suppose," said Mr. D. " as the fact exists, that and the witness had denied it, - 1 shook' ig.that eases he. I ire ate pestered with.evidence, whic i h. states, that if entitled to Call evidence to prove the*.fiet. It may be 'the last witness is, the person she is supposed to be, said that tile& a ease . as I' have pat would Afl•Within.l sh o t her character is headed with infamy. Yet, 1 will your Lusk** . vole, and that your L ' lrd ' AP P E l r b 4d I say, that as an advocate and a gentleman, I am not allow me to call these witnesses, notwithstanding any i isatifiod . a i putting questions of that nature to her, technical oirtission. Out only 'hi nk, my Lords, how nun berless &retitle ci mediae alters, by which the;esti limey of** firrtlier investig ation ." If tinder such cireum- Without witness tutty be impeached, berielesthe imiense ease whtch irences they were to be deprived of the opportunity of I havrjust put. .Courtter-declaratitine from a large Sass, praying this at a future period, by any decison of their and it in t o( Oeousesst importence that freedom iffionld be Lordships, ther , hr hoped that such decision Would steed .put..eliettlng setts costume-declarations, such as,."lllaee ' clone, and never be fdllowed on soy other occasion. eon ever stated each facts et any other times" 41 is barely possible flint theordiairy Coeds of Law *mild permit Like ail the applications ofhe r Majesty *, Countel to their wit -if lit relarelledi Of the 'fteeeld ride • in' the dionetrous cage . fiardrld s, he re retied that thin which desired copies I w hi c h . I e we put; b e t! swoon posti ng . mee t 'wawa lei' th e depositions. hid beau denied. On that gritted, 7 . lodubitab y fall with's-the strict rule of IsAr. If 1 bpd itielalienee was due iii tlieni. • . liecaute. aelias I dear* witnesses to Ploo‘illiti .4.,0. hid. AIL time hitgins-ardo e aware.to diderenrracit, or those to which kinl things utterly incogalstret with Isis resent . 4(4ep o sod, thee by mspns of cross-examination, ninny, I could not callyue of t r badprevioustywalli:Etatnlneti A. E. ti thumpordealar - • m 1" i their testimony could be shaken. If their Lordships ... 1 , did. not allow that . wilih ;key* then claimed, the Apc iSia tn it m e! i h ni ese "%i teo Lgird wi sla rf a 't it i . n u ri a be y a la g illf ro :i ii d i r e r r o g . would be deprived of all inane of establishing Thai Lordships (or 'eliciting thirst eottnter-declaratiose. I , her Innocence in the fate of mankind. If her Ma- Mil any .An„ with has ever whores:A the course of a : jesty lirtte deprived of an ample, fall, free right of atenivation,.resort to smolt an Peanuts' el thiesi . crosteesandeatiee, so as to throw a true light upon the . I: l 4 ll 7ll 4 seny coaater-decheretions. how many allet.Pee" I eases by throwing infamy 'upon these wh o usdele the plots of the utmost importente are elitism trom...ii_ inforeoni charges, then should they be justi fi able in jit.en ie the merle of a rifling' parole felii..e3llll4-5- withdrawing from the proceedings, nailer the bores- Eds.? I feel mr:or - II Pill a lianthw' which does r, and 1 a ndon it-1 put anothee, sr 'chatsdog that from feelings. into which.be could net for a i l lrt r _f isesie if; Sat if 1 seen to be tied done by pier waremeat. enter, !lee stylised was to be pursued by an fillielsibipi` vales- 11 411 an not.alLowed to predate ileW layaway, deternsinatiou to accomplish her destruction. Wm% • witbotat . rtnT• Lordships' persuiesien s though I The Arroamtv-Ogretaat , then oldossed their Loll- Ca: received the most important . * Infe rstsation, I s hip s .. jiae cou p on:gee d b r o m p erv i sit , that b ad say sue n. aect A teprived af all tbelteltethe of 0 erooo-oko- not eisaidetern with their Lordships bees present and lle. I no . premed tomtit "hem witnegons.l heard tkiaildresies of his two. Learned Friends just de ihe AktentePeette" l wo'lli be ^ O 4 ent!olfh livered, bd ton+ -haws *apposed that their Lordships for ilaisgh he appears here fief salt, is bad eider consolidation some cola to.he adopted foe the ividh marvellous agile** talk. AM lieurtimeorblek,was dated, at variance' oath eves, prin. -Oeutladean'i obeetentiesse have . . raga-. ei eof judicial premeding ; that the y were about to Orly ligai ad OM 1011 iiiratiotige.QueeD, as belied itp- . eotsse sew rule, unknown to she Weipliab law. Bat • Vheriiis Pose* ilFlDdte eapstily 4 . ..,,, i ..„, ... the tete - gat am of tho+eatiou ?It was nut oo t o saki : thee dnee Courts •of Juitlies kaant . • Iliershitikl deplet from hurt known rule, hut Wed wi th just. Jilispik and with bold and ' in . gest t ee t etistr iliny'should 'Whereto sok...Which pmemeed th e Counsel, such dlleiltimi heti newer been Wpm& MA* saweilit efoges-..mat.wliethee they **wit relax freer the party agetipi:•• illy tonlit,. it fir nil* lloohorrio shirt Pend** in diesel:lod ieg of &,e scented, but wise call the course to irbleityolw teedahlpa *onii.terlicill deer *I shoal..tik art . t,ko p es i o .d at t f or d ie * d na , us, a crtoMisiditiatibn. I. c a lk* tozillt 1 1 11 1 1119(7 taiffe-tel the iteej tiat 4orO HUI Spa and Lerma fore your•Loriships;„ year *Now are an s" r I:deeds...ea . ilm Mae kad s thruegisoot the whaled's of its sufficiency, and if your nisisips delight''' . Isild cussieti addrinenil Undelsitiiins Sepia* 1$ which he . . . .• . . ... .. .. . • • . - . . -4- ' - . -.. .' - .•`-.. '. -•-.1 •.. TR in t Altallif i rt . 4. 6, • ';:*iifiliglia=fig:2ll4llgargia4lialagirrig2l2ll.f":"l* * "`"l4y dr , '" lich'i e f t i : l . .16‘tsboalle v aPilutibk. I inights to be ' permitted la pill a few 'as ii343‘ allied ilk it'ati-aolporianit 9 . 1911‘.41**01 *idiom through your Lordships. This is er .I**ria. reeding, io lb they to tortt• to the public Me* 10 ..5 favour and permission of your Lordships--a permit- fre .4 ., .'marelmtsttatatiant at.fur esetuolcoit te.sigt,N. =haat l alsoqld,distirin to receive as such in any i st sc a rillse rut Slttur.isy, .that niken tilt' w Ssr ituets hsrti,• 4tqrt of !omit* to which your Lordships appeal for Krantz fame to that ?after her saatialptqr which eats- *4414 -1 • stioild thing it as , a tlfht , and there Islishi.3 :thei'fit.:t of adulten , she war t *upped by her is . no Judge -Who won't{ not grant at as a right. 11i9ests • 'iirttorney-lleneral; this bp/ng a grOst false- issllleit - as' A tamer. 'Now, Ney lards, um this hoed, -and, I haven* doubt, a dtlibevate mstrath, told, iseund, I • humbly submit to your Lordships, that for . 4.b t .!,parpc.6,... ..I.reorlivart proceedings ' , lmaged our Won Ishineut. was equal to t our disappointment, •. - .. .._ .1.4.:-1. ...... • 1....1211i1iia fro, as e 1 • I, , . ; ‘, . , y ui t . o arlTvbeert,:piifcslielyfiduieilit Hwy did not feel himself ut at o l n ib t e h r e t only be for the purpose of shewint what a- fal se 41 had been p almost exclusively threlt on by his learned It r i te d s t," the generality of 'the charges, and the withholding & I l i of the witnesses in this case—topirs, which he conis o k bad been introduced, more for the lotrposei of decks,. tion, thaw of leading to awe anintantial or wis es went. For instance, his Learned Friends souk 2; never was a criminal case in which the times a m outs If committing the offence chagesi were not i t , was , was not however warranted in makin g th at • I Nether, was no instance of an indictment ia whiebib t • and place was so Jilt inctly specified as bad beeanesssK I ven in the most important criminal the prosecutor was not bound to pro ve I L I the act was committed in any of the playa s trams or time stated; but might bring proof of it to a t other . time or place indiscriminately. E. Li cases of High Treason. then was wo Mikan e i the Het of witnesses, nausea and dates of • lli crime charged upon the accused. And erta k i s , stance of exception from the general prattle!, IlrO s i se ' Forster, in the case of Lord tleorge Goriltea. a hope that it would suit with the serious di m ' • oldie k irlatuN, and that lie might event say NI - 11 practice 'able in all respects to so Ninth alihaf a scot: ' Witted. re could indeed be no doubt that Ik e i i,,, IL 1 niza listorali the witnesses was calculated Mao, as, isienvenieteee than benefit to the steamed.; illhoo s e e of ethernet put down weight he Ilk white - lbs.: cas might be proved by perhaps only 10 out of tiriennesto ; land thus the patties would be completely beitildendie asides labour and reseatth after facts and ciftlitaskeso 1 With the knowledge of which he could bete bodi l y I do. Their Lorslops had heard much of the cwieeiths I Duke of Norfolk (ruin his Learned Friends; but *din intending any refection, or wishing to say that he ihNi 1 at inteutitinaliy misleading their Lordships, b e Mal t aa that his Learned rtieltdi Mr. Bros hue 1W NI si l l that case accurately to their Lordships. flopikiivi t a the preamble of the bill which was da House on the occasion of the Doke of , , irtrai his wife. 'impl ) • stated that the big bet, divined adultery, without saying where, with wberia;lo i li what place (he act charged had takes plate. i, Ihseliesa complained of this omission as it was . t. abed particularly that there was not urea the Moe i the party mentioned. And what did she el 0 . Ll* her remonstrance, but a vague win of eilliilli months in certain years. The 'loose, however, tea time' 1 occasion granted no list of the witnesses, who vete brought forward and sworn at that Bar so thetal. att. all examined on the 26th. The Hill, It wastrae, waseti 1 the first occasion thrown out ; tint wine it wee Sega& on a second time in the year 1770, then was ebb wipe cifieation of the dates or places, nor any list of the wit. Arises. This case. therefore, instead of makim o r what it was quoted for, had the direct oistrare te In fact, the point which it was introdscal ti hear Imes, their lordships had nothing to Is with at preset; it was T point they had settled long sin. The goodies upon which their Lordships bad desired t' not whether a list of the witnesses -' be granted—that was settled ' grimed inconvenience the was subject to from the against her, and from witnesses. The A • bad chosen to say, must for the King,) bad, hour wanting them yo adopt be retorted the charge,. for. himself that came at the their ,Lorelships to infringe and that too in favour of the acknowledged principles his Learned Friend, Mr. Brougham, contrary, he most state wind was, as he believed Lordships, that when be re-examining the witness, _ express understanding on his part that __ be should not ask, nor expect in any °therein. Learned lientlemen concluded by exp confidence in the wisdom, impartiality, end ' their Lordships and that they would not be rya, any feeling or circumstance unconnected with he dim, principles of abstract justice. The SoLict roa-tinsenst. followed on the eullt side. He began by noticing and repents; latheseed firm manner, the charge which bad been Incited against himself and his Learned Friends kik kiss. of going beyond the meagre of their tattrections sr duty, and making themselves a party is the em which their Lordships had commanded thug le 'dentate at their Lordships' Liar. Had the jet', went been called for from their Lorailla i only, he should have contented himself $ll relying on their Lordships knows loprthillY and discrimination, rather than offer a word. The Learned Hentleman then entered hies review and vindication of the conduct of hirttssllt colleagues in the present proceeding, they had in no instance gone beyond the edit 4 1 their duty. But, said his Learned Friend (Mr. B. ue , can't crosa-exaruine this witness." 1141, Urneral) could not ansiersteta r addle all get' fiftructions from his innerly* , elide 0 esee examine ? Their Lordships would bear% mind rot Os confound crow-examination with tontrailell" - the witness spoke facts which admitted of esplanades , the itlnstrions Personage could explain them, the facts deposed to were false, they i n ightb s el Owed. His Learned Fr:end, with typeset ea hod said, he should make no continent epos sari egg of testiohloy, and bad used other inaluilations d a simile tendency. Those insinuations, thong h not &ie. irertintended for effect. Having satisfied die !lousier' ' this part of the case, he would kok a little at tie ce► eequeyees which would certainly follow a complia" with tbe prayer of his Learned Friend. He (th • Solirita• lieseral) must admire the strength of argament of /sit Learned Friend and the power of his er i ess•clateinesie e, and be could not admit that lils Learord Prirwl Illustrious client would be a sufferer by the delay . lii opposed the postponement berries he was antis,' the case should proceed according to the known law the land. In examination, a doubt might arise n *weld roily be cleared up by a erossdeSeminstion. object sof a croas,examination, he coneeivedi . andiros rather than to discresnt a witness. e trainees spoke falsely, the postponement of his c. anainination would give him time to reeudient ineseell and to flame falsehood eoesisteot *ION. 1 161 e IP emotive of his testimony. A c '004111114a.,,_17 Polled would had to dfrbes. ids w:tbout Oa: IP. o • l 'm if his Learned Friend's sisuei we re scald tit (Mr, Solicitor Olonere) had an equal right to bv— ps bad desired iheaslaerjrat,im witnesses should or simuld Ise tied ; bat to ascertain chat da• e accused in the present es* be generality of the Alegi n the wart ef lb Ist rney-Cleneral fat lb* OM that be (the A come down there at dm dopt t sew for, in poiat if bet, it e twelfth boar, calks' age upon an established f one utterly sabveraimiti ciples of justice. Brougham, might my le that the imprimis,' ea I it was with meet d obtained the indalgeme tg s, Majocci, it was smiler do m his part that it was a hoar A I