The Statesman. — London, England, 1819-01-27 00:00:00

V o V:estest degree of distress pereeded the country. ft had lately been stated in that House, that theceentsy was at pr ,scnt in a state or rain joy and nest; but xis lie pronounced to he the leaguer of Aititity. •ha finance gmstios of this country was wo eloobt on. of the greatest intricacy; bet without en. toting i„ o complicated details, he ass sore it was irapessi* e for the People of this country to pay the taxes necessary for coudecting the Government, and ter discharging a debt of 800,000,0001. It bad be.,. well said elsewhere, that this Debt represented property, tsbich once had been, but which dkl not now exist. It was quit. Impossible that these tales could all be paid. livery 30 years sheet thirty', hundred sinless sterling of mosey would be raised from the industry of this country, end yet so pert of the Debt would be reduced.. It bad bete mid a genii part of this emery resented aghin to the People, and provided them ariththomeaesofsebsisteelle.lt cerise's. IT di t; but thane was a groat differeocobotween thei supply which the People derived from the natural splices, sod that !which they derived throreett the absorbent streleerp of Governmeet. It would be I said, too, that If law were reduced, the grips di tabour would be reduced also. Bet it did not follow that wages would he so far reduced as to allow the acs greater comforts than what they at present enjoyed. They had Ore repertories of history, end the esample of the population art France and Americo, to show that the comforts of the Peo ple were segmented as taxes were reduced, and when there were few fiscal laws to iaterfere with the settlement of Ostend prices. In the etre case. there was a healthy body with sound limbs ; in the ether, a amnia body with tinselled limbs. ll was Ibis system which at present was harrying rich and poor into • chaos of anarehy. It was slid by Dr. Adam Smith. that the wealth of a country coos sifted in the comforts and eirj.ryments which the Pee. ple, both rich and poor, were able to obtain beyond the necessaries of life. It was known, however. that multitedes of people in this country were mumble to process even the necessaries of life. Another writer, who was distinguished for the spirit of freedom and benevolence diffused in his works, bad come to the painful conclusion that the industrious poor of this cosetry were in a deteriorated condition ; bet be bed said, that this might he.. attain from the increased • population, while the fruits of the earth had not pro. bably kept pace with that entreated population.— Many, however, ibeeght that the fruits of the earth bad kept pee" with the popelation.—... At all events, that could erely have a ;leftist effect en the condition of the People. He believed that the Ministers of the country had brought it into that Mate, thst the question was sot whether the Book • might to reseal, cash payments or met, bet how se in,olvemey could be declared with the loam pfeja . dice to capitalists of every description, and with • the least detriment to the isethulions of the woo- Ire. God forbid that any such avessere should 'Oho place, merely to bessefil these who bad ceased • all our calemities, sod in icier to enable them •to avail Usesselres of the fardlities it would give 'them to plunge the country into fresh difficeities. Name bet an idiot would think of paying the dabs of .profeseed gem Wen.—What wools' be the coesequence of enabling Ministers to raise supplies? We shoeW have enteral sent to Aaveriesterst to retiree' pee. sewed Injustice, bet to extirpate Republican Us. blishments ; lumber to South Amoeba to restore the intseisitioe, sod eimblelreedlnemd ter skeet through the back those who were ebonies" by thole poises virtue ; another to India, to seise ell the MINIM and . occupy all the territory trees the Gears to the Cas pian Sew; sod soother to Fmk*, to week a metal knee I. the Ministers fee bowleg rejected the COO. - cities of the Holy Anisette. Let k not be sop. 'posed Mat be would glee this power soessoditionelly, even to tee Howourable Gentlemew, amend hint, to those who weeld have saved the eintetry from so many anneal MalaibllS of taxes, foe which military -glory was a poor reward; for where was the coon. try which had enjoyed it, and bed net been reused by It ? liven to thee who wield have saved their I country from the Suspension of the Habeas Corpus 'Act, and the other Reformers of the system, be would not be disposed to give this power, till the , 'country had obtained the only effectual security, a reformed Parliansent--s Parliament reformed by a rs'ional extension of the Elective Franchise—a Par •%sonetit which should not exhibit mach a scene as had been witnessed a few nithts ago in that Hower. (We believe the lions Member alluded to the greet number 'of Members returned by the county of Cornwall, who 'came forward to take the oaths at the same dwel— l!, was happy that his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Tierney) had given notice of a motion on the subject of the Bank Restrictions, ansi he should think it his duty steadily to support it, because he was anxious %that every possible information should be obtained so a sohject so closely connected with the welfare of the country. end which might accelerate the termination of a system that generated crime, and which it sp. peered Minister, resolved to salotain by pervever. 'ante in saegainary esecutinos. It was not his inters. 'floe to oppose the motion for a Committee of Supply, because he was not disposed to embarrass the Ger ternment so far—(//ear ll—but be hoped the 'object would be takes up by others better qualified to as. Cues it, importance. A MEMBER, ender the opposite gallery, mid that in ca levitating the debt at 800,000,0001. the Hen. Gentleman bad forgotten to give credit for what bed been redeemed of it. Another remark which 'idled the cheers of the !louse, we could not catch. The House having gone into a Committee of Sop. ply. Mr. Brogden was celled to the Chair epee the males of the Chancellor of the I:sorriest, the Sep.. ply was voted of teem and the Muse is The Report was orders:l to be taken tote cessidera . 800 to.reerrew. DR.. D'IIIALLORaN AND CONVICT SWIM Sir T. B. MARTIN rehousing, se countered the • impression nude by en Hen. Gentlemen last night.— If there was any blame impetable, it ought not le be attached to the Noble lord at the bead of the Horne Department : it ought to be transferred to the Beard over which be had the benison to preside. Ois the 9th of this month he bad made a calculaties epon the proportion of deaths in convict ship', end he found it to he 53 In 6109—that is, I in llama lit. The lion. Gentleman had Meted that they bad been crowded so herribty that it was sickening to see them. lie bad said, that six of thou bad We crowded TUE PrATESMAN 1 111110 ihri apace pf sla feet. This videnty They had as great a space allovresf to thews as'a Bri tish soldier ;as great as he hail had as hoard a Men of war, and biasses new had..—[iicar, heer!]—Nose of the soldiers sere allowed more than 14 inches. The Iloa. Glesilemen thee mud the were, of nine, ships shoeing the number of conekts which each car.' tied, and the number that died. The Beriog, the very ship now in gerstion, had formerly carried to Botany Bay 300 cuistiett, of whew only one died; she had had then the same officer as master, sod the i nns. servos as noes. There never waren instance signaler biodness and humanity than the sergern 'iced Assn to ell under his care. Ile believed there existed sot as abler or a mere skilful surgeon. He bed been recommended by Sir Rkhard Keats, prise _ . oipally for Ms skill sod bamosity.— [ Nunte, some f] —lt was Di. arid. Ur. HIENNNTr oak!, that as Is the number of persons, be had visited two ships, in one wet. 300 eseektii, in another 447. la the Baring he trend 110, be might my SI persons; for Mr. Eynon who hod spent a considerable fortune, was crowdd, for hie passage. into the NUN nose. lie went thence ' Mew, and sat upon a box. Ile was much shocked with ;he scene. Koch crib was sit het by live and a half. Homo three tying in eue of them, and ask-' ed how may ley there, he was laid that six did.— He ailed the other three, and they immediately pre sented themselves. It might he that the orders from the Admiralty were that oily fear should lie in a crib. He might have asked the master to accompany' him. Bet he represented to the master, with horror, the state of the convicts. Ifs reply was, " For God's sake don't go sway with the impressive t h at the coo -1 vine @lonian crowded. Look into my robin, look into the soldiers' apartment, we are all equally crowded. hear !]—So far was he from denying it, that be only aurented the representation made to him. The Heniserable Gentleman had compared the titration of convicts with that of soldiers. If soldiers were cruelly treated, that was no jellice• Lion for creel treatment to convicts : bat of the sot. die,. eee-third were on deck daring the night. Thiel he keew from bit own **pricer,. But all the eon. vide were shut up during the nighl. l —[llear!) Ilot he pledged himself that any one e 1 the Gentle. wee apposite woold be satisfied it be went do• a to set these convicts. The Right lion. Cent. had said, that hi had ascertained that Dr. O'Halloran bad not been ill. Not ill! He bore en his countenance the proofs of his Moo's, too strong in be mistaken. He had nicer seen man se changed. Stich testimony was seem likely to be tree than the testimony relied es by the Right Hee.Geottistmon. It should be recol lected tee, that the Sem", which carried 200 con victs. of whom be eilvd, had sailed at this very season; sad that sloe reason stated by the Rivard for this mor tality was, the season of the veer. He cared net whe ther ISSINNU or oeldiers had as small a space a ss igned to them. These disuse., to a sea life must find inch conftaamont horrible beyond conc►ption. Tito smell too, which be had net mentioned, was surely a ter. 'Obis aggravatioo. Ho could then moaner', that it was a great act of croaky to coofine men in loch • siteatioa for a number of boom at nisht, and under the hear, hear Eger in the ab. horned Slave Trade eat* slave had ono foot •nd a h a lf. Cossiderigg thw Pacts, he was sot surprised to dud, by oho trials be had seen reported in tbs Newspapers, that those wretches, soladail-by *very kind of troffering, chose 'other to periat is Whirr than not to attempt to effect their escape. Is bring. leg those creel aillistions ander the atreution of the Hoes., God knew that he had no other object than to rests his fellow-creatures from +offering an as. necessary sad cruel aggravating of their pooishment. [Hew, h..►!] —God know that be had IN" pro posed any albs, object for his exertion, thou to dimi. Irish t►e arm of human isiesty.—[Greet aredgenerat cheering.) Sir T. B. MARTIN explained. To make op for the want of liberty to come on deck. the con. Acts hod a ton more allowed to them is order to walk in. Ile then read a letter written by a convict on his arrival, thanking the Master and Surgeon for their kindness. Sir ISAAC COFFIN rue to address the Howse on the 'abject. The SPEAKER remarked, that perhaps the busi sees .f the House was rosily forwarded by not ad. kering strictly on all occasion' I. the prescribed *Maw. Ile bed, therefore, not interrupted the Mem ber who first spoke upon this subject, cooteiring that, all his statements had Wield authority, it world be salidectery to the Hesse to beer them. Upon ibis view, Hie Gentleman who had replied was necessarily oat of order. Del it was entirety in the pleasure of the Hesse whether Ibis dismission should proceed fer- Wm.—El/ear, hear ! end Chair, chair !) The CIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the adjournment of the House. Sr ISAAC COFFIN said, be had since lest night applied to the Navy Beard, and hid mow no aoebt that his Han. Friend (Me. Beeedr) bed been in an serer :he should have asked-Om Master of the Ail; to accompany him. NAVY tIALTPAT itiFFICEIIII. Sir R:FERGUSSON wished to be Informed why consist fees wove elected from Navy Half-Pay I ores, fee leave to go abroad. When se officer ap plied fee leave, be was directed to call at the office, where be should find a latter addressed to him grant. leg loam Upon receiving this, an Admiral paid 4i. a Captain ate Leiner sod se on. He sidled to knew why thief,. was evicted, and how it was applied ? Sir G. J. HOPE said, that there was a great dif ference between soldiers and sailors obtaining leave of absence. The former could not be soddenly call. ed for; the latter might be required, en a very one-- peeled ereergescy. It was, therefore, necessary to knew all their movements, and there was considerable sixpence in transmitting their pay. This was the ed. gin of the fl. The praises went to the contingent. des, and was every year aceeenied for to the tingle. Sir R. ERROL:111;0N said, he had heard no reason why the Half-Pay Officers should be taxa to swell the Contingeodes. Sir G. WARRFNDER said, that formerly the fees went to Um Chief Secretary, bet that um Board had thooght k batter to gin bin, a salary, after which the fees west to the Contingencies. Their amongst ores very trifling last year, when there was an putts. ordinary number; they amounted only to 100:. Adjourned at half-past six. Itaicr. or OTOCKS Tit 1 , Mask Mort tn. 9 per GM. 1441.191 pqr Ow. Oismi. 91 sr Ceibl. Amok for Ave. IN 4 per Coat. 911 IS DAY AT ONE. O'CLOCK I per east. Navy 1071 lolls Noah el IS p lan Asa. 20 7-14 Ereiripesr Bilk 20 17 p THE STATESMAN. LONDON: WEDIIINIDA Y. JANUARY 27, 1819. New Yost and Philadelphia Papers to the Roth alt. reached es this morning. They announce the arrival of the Triton, at Boston, with the Treaty lately concleded at London between the (jailed Slates and Great Britain. The report of the pro. reeding, in Congress retches to the 15th. In the Sitting of the HOW of Representatives, on the tith, it was Resolved, "That the Presideot of the United Stales be 'peened to cause to be laid before this Howse, if in his opinion the same shook' not be in. consistent with the public interest, Copies of the Correspondence, if any, between the I)epariment of War and the Governor of Georgia, in answer to the letter of the latter to the former, dated on the Ist of Jos" in the present year, communicated to this House on the Ilth inst. end also the Correspondence, if any, between the Department of War and Gen. Amnesty Jaction, in answer to the letter of the latter, of 7th May, ISIR, also communicated to this House emote 121 h inst." A letter from Washington of the 131 aye— " There has been commenicated to the flossed Ito preseniatites tis.day, a letter to Mr. ADAMS, of w hich moth is said, as a most able State Paper, in reply to Pic.tano's celebrated Note." We have already assured the Public, that the re port of Lord CocoosnE having arrived at Marga rita end joined Admiral Baton was incorrect, as the ship Rose, is which his Lordship 'ailed, was entered end insereti direct to Valparoiso, is Chill. No ac counts can peasib'y be expected to reach this country, "nonvoting his Lordship's arrival ot that port, omit the latter end of February or the begioeing of March. It appears, by a letter from Margarita, doted the beginning of December, that the whole of the ac count we have bad, has been a raw de cuter* en the part of Admiral Limos, connected vi i h ao important operation he hail in view, and for this purpose he availed himself of the attirel of another Naval Officer in bat quarter. Th. Report hal been aided by so matey nterml marks of the fact alluded to being real, that the Spaniards, who no doubt had beam informed from England that Lord COCIIIIMIt was embarking for South America, bad fully be lieved it, and were in the utmost stall of diamayo— This circsonstaace will convoy • very seed Ides of the daseattes tbat will be 'indeed among the Royalists, w boa they learn the reel arrival of Lord Cocisaaax en the shores of the Pacific, whore he would las. nrediately mese the commend et a feet, ceaspeeed of at least 13 vessels of war. In the House of Lords Unlit night, the Bill for in vesting the Duke of Yoak with the cure of the Ktfin's person, was rend • second time, when Lord wittinut objecting to the selection of his Royal Ilighnobs for that necessary and important dirty, took or-vision to manifest that constitational jealousy we yesterday 'vowed, respecting the exten sive patronage cnnnected with the charge. That pa tronage, he observed, consisted in the appointment to all offices and places appertaining to the Windsor Fr tablirhment, the limits of which were not defined, nor its extent precisely known ; and yet their Lord ships were recommended to consent to the appropria tion of this indefinite power, end thereby to 'Mil. blish a principle which could never be recognised by mad and enlightened policy. To this objection this Earl of Livastront. replied. that the Mem bers of the Legislature, individuallv, were ac quainted with the fall extent of the Lstabliyhments at Windsor, and their Lardrhips, therefore, knew what they conferred upon the Duke of Volts: when they assented to the Bill. When the expected re duction should take place in those Erfahlishments, the principle of this Bill weak' not be niteted, though the patronage itself would be reduced. In the House of Cnnsmons the consideration of the Windsor Establishment was postponed on ac- I count of the ceetineed indisposition of Lord CAS• 1 1 1 TIMIZACII. With respect to the OM!. of the Bunk, Mr. Tisane give notice that it was his intention to move, en a future day, for • Committee to enquire into the effect which the Bank Restrictions hail on the currency and foreign exchanges of this country ; and put a question to the CIIANCELLOR of the Ex vagina, which that Gentlemen thought it expe dient to pus without a reply. respecting the line of conduct which the blinister meant to pursue in hi• part of the discession on the I:minces of the Bank. Mr. Gasnext.s. immediately afterwards moved for I Accounts relating to the Beek, with a view to bring the profits of that Establishment once ' , gain before the eyes of the Members of the Hove; and his motion was successful in obtaining the anent of the CIIMICILLLOR of the EXCIITQLttI. It hippott.ll to be appropriate also as to time end cirostinsisoievs for yesterday the price of Bank end other St,rlts afforded additional and striking eviolenro he* dip. tinct aml !fell elopealle ate the intoner, of lE. Om piny of the 01:16 ur sod the value of the propttty of the Petite in the Notional Fends, mode.' what degree the latter way be dopiociated and tie form" may he highly Improved by the season which the Busk pretends k still oepedient for the poblic oervicei-tbeaoretintreswe of the Bonk tion Act. In cooseqovaco of the prospect of the continuance of that itestrictina being sanctioned by Parliament to an **tent mach greater than itnogined, there was yesterday a rise in the price of Bank Stork to the awootst of 4 per coot., 'aide the price of tha Public Fonds was aerially depressed. On the motion for • Committee of Supply. Si r HOBERT WILSON took occasion, le making his fire effort in discharge of his parliamentary diodes, Is observe, with much justice sad propriety, that, it the 'sitting stale of things, there was no safety fss the Slate but in the adoption of Reform, sod a con. siderable sacrifice of indisideal property. Enter. tuning the confidence, however, which Minist►rs possess of obtaining the .epply required, they were amused, it appears, with the representation be made of the condition of the artistry, much as the contem plation is calculated to effect ether classes of the community with serious concern, who derivenot from the ideas of lases the pleasant sensations they may sffirsl to men II office, and Gentlemen who occupy the Ministerial bendsrs. In this country,as Sir Ito imac justly remarked, the tests were so enormous, that the body politic presented en appearance which excited every feeling of pity and pain. The poor were in • condition worse than ever witnessed before, becalm they were living on sates 'strayed from the eerninge of people who were reduced in their circuits stances; and the country in general was now in such a state as towels* redwing ewe doubt, not whether cash payments could be reveised by the Bank, but whether the enormous debt with which the nation was crashed could be horseman, linger.—" In his opinion there was no other Way ,of, reducing that debt, hot by a general sacrifice of property ; but be sucld not give the necessary power to stake such a 'edifice to any set of men, until the canary ob •ained that secerity it ought to possess, by having a radiate/eat reformed upon just sod rational pritie.i. • pies —upon the principle of an mended right of Elective Franchise--n Parliament, that would nese a dirrtineeiort in all the eapences of the country, and be whet might be jernly considered a fell, fair, seed f r ee itopresentatioe of the People." la reply to the Statements made, on the pre. ceding day, concerning the treatment of torn victs in prisnn-ships, in consequence of Doctor flau.ou,ex's Petition, Sir BTANI Merritt eve 1111 account of the several returns made from the thine which had a►ried out consists to New South Wales, sad from the proportion of convicts. who have reached the place of their destination, in forted tbst the eccomemedetiees furnished for the voyage were evidently adequate far their health. and subsistence. Mr. Lienstro, hem ever, persisted ' ie his remarks on the condition of ibe ship he visited, I. which Dr. anALLORAN was menleed, and related, that when after his inspections"( it be bed returned to the deck and told the Caplets how much affected he was with the horrors he had witnessed, the Cap tain desired him not to be shocked, for the whole ship wssdreedfelly crowded, end even the peneregers in his cabin were in the Mme situation. This gen attempt of Mr. DINNITT to bring to light the hur ter. of a" floating prison-loam," affords occasion to the Courier to give vent to its sneering asperities. To weds possessed of proper ptineipleg, and in connection with heart, not destitute of this feelings of humanity, these efforts of Mr. Brstoccr will requite no vindication, nor ezei:e any senti ment bet respect. The character of Dr. HAL LORAN oay or rally not he such is to own his personal complaints •sad his other representation' to he tres.ed witn distegaid or dig's-edit ; but whet, the character of the coquetry is involved 49 to its treat ment of tie unfortunate, the helplrs., or even the criminal, the cot•duct 1,1 such an assert'r or the lights of bum.iii,y as Mr. HENNITT, in the per suit of his enquiries, and in his benevolent labours, is entitled to gratitude end praise. Brevets, Mtrii, end ilaraburo Papers to a late date him arrived. In the first of thee', it is stated, that the Fr r...,•11 King, acrirg on the principle of obli vion an union, hos ellneed the return of another of the Ez.Generals to Freare; Martha' SatoLT sod M. ARN AVD are al.*, it is prevomert, on the eta of being both recalled ; and, iR short, it seems beilever!," that the remainder of the Revolutionists and Napoleasists, now roiled in nviropeorill he legitimation' tbe new era of the Coronation. Court LAS CASAS, profit ing by this spirit of amnesty, has published as Ap peal to the Drltisb Parliament, to iodate them to listen with mom compiseeney to the complaints of BONAPARTE, and, by allotting that Personage 10 re side free, either in the United Kingdom or North America, to deliver him fet !tar keel tbe serreil. lance of Sir litoson [Amt. _ ._. _. Private accunnis boon l'a!ir state that the French Funds un Satardry lest *me at M f. 20 e. This bring the sraisersaty of the berilhaley norl flightiest the Doke of Sulam. it will be ewe. anted es a arena Masonic restisal at Oleo Vt.... PilVne 'ravers. Crest Quev , i.street—tt , e Lard TORItIMGTet in I • Cl .sr. y. &bow one o'cloi k, the ih,k• •f 1i one ar,ivert el it. St. James's INlkee, form hit psi, In l'in 1:+•1 V Eilt:g.‘3l. n. 44 Al t nlns. /41 aftrr Ihrr. rk to. K.., al 1ii. 4 1, 1e.s held a ;rut z. 6 :1 °lcy in the Ucr, rot par hi fact mat In of to for Poi ihit one mat FRI T 0 il it A 1 • 1 Cu