The Statesman. — London, England, 1818-10-24 00:00:00

L`( r v ,k rill EDIIVR OF THE STATESMAN. Sin,—The inhabitants of the north‘east parts of .lendoo, some years ago, patronized a Company for the avowed impose of supplying the neighbourhood with a better and more abundant supply of Water, at a reduced rate; but lately this Company, having coalesced with the New River Company, has raised their rate 75 per Cent., their supply is much shorten ed, and iu case of fire, application must be made to the Works at Old Fo►d, some miles from town.— These and other vexatious grievances have occasioned * determination of calling a Public Meeting, to adopt such means of counteracting this alarming monopoly as may be judged expedient, when it is earnestly hoped every public spirited humane person will at tend, who values the lives, health, and comforts of , an already too much suffering community. Disease .aud death have spread this neighbourhood with con sternation, and its progress will not be arrested but accelerated by such abominable avaricious measures. 1 am, Sir, your's, _ _ Oct. 23. J. R. • Po. Dort.—We readily give publicity to the above cnmmu •iranou, but tire obliged to omit the time and place fixed fur a Alcetiog, tail would he liable to Me Stamp Duly, NAVAL INTSLLIGENCE. DEAL, OCT. 23.—Arrived and remains, in the Downs, the William, Lasid, from Rio Janeiro, fur Jiamburgh. Half-past 4 P. M.—A vessel is supposed In have beau lost last night,or this morning, on the off part of the Goodwin Sand,' as some spars and planks have been picked up this afternoon at sea, and just biought on shore. Five o'Clock.—The boatmen state, that they 'hick her to be a foreign-built vessel, by the appear . mica of a piece of the wreck of the vessel which they have seen. • Poßzsmotrta, OCT. 23.—Arrived LA. Rosa da • Tapia, Remonto, from St. Andero for Goodin.— Sailed his Majesty's ship Creole, for South America and the Industry, Adams, for St. Ander°. FALMOUTH, OCT 21.—Arrived the Grabbler, Sham bler, from London for Madeira, very leaky and must dischargei and the Blue Eyed Lass, from Bristol, with loss of itaff and bowsprit.—Sailed the Swiftsore • packet, with a Mail, fur Gibraltar and Malta; the Lord Sidmouth packet, with do. for Halifax end • New York ; the Grace, with do. for the Brazil ; and • i few outward-bound vessels. • LIVERPOOL, Oc•r. 22.—The Warrior, Brown, from hence to Lisbon, arrived at Carlingfoid Bay the 16th lost., having experienced a severe gale of wind on the 73th, and lost her carpenter overboard.—Great fear, • are entertained for the safety of the Mentor, Dow ker, which sailed from hence for Dublin the 11th inst., and has not since been heard of.—We have a letter from Gleoluctr this day, stating, that several square bags .of cotton had been thrown upon that coast. The lAsstor istrcotton on deck in square bales. OCT. 22.—A vessel is on Shore ow the Stoney Bissks, about a mile from the Spurt', sup. ' posed to be the Royal Charlotte, from Oporto to this port. • Loci! Eaissor., OCT. 15.—The schooner Christians Mindi,Crumb,from Dram, last from Belfast, founder. . ed off Cape Wrath the 11th inst., having encountered a ' heavy gale the night before, in whirls the vessel sprung a leak, and notwithstanding every election to — get her into Lock Eribol, she went bodily down.— Crew saved themselves in their boat. RAPASCATS, OCT. 23.—Several planks and deals hive been picked op by boats off this port and brought here ; from the quantity seen floating ■bout it is thought some vessel has been wrecked on the Sands to the Eastward. The oak planks are marked W.—The upper works of a Dutch galliot has just been towed into this harbour, with a clothes chest, and a hen coop painted green, supposed to belong to the vessel lost on the Goodwin Sand last night, as there was a light seen from this about (..4 P. M. M. BERTRAND de MoLLEvILLE,who during, his re sidence in England, acquired a considerable know ledge of our language and Constitution, died, on the l9th, in his 74th year. Letters base been received from Bombay to the 20th oriole, by a vessel arrived at Liverpool. The army in the Decker) had gone intr*.cantonments to avoid the rains, and for repose aftnetheir long and fatiguing warfare. BASJEZ Rao was still a fugitive. All the Jagheardars, or Chiefs, had!returned to their homes, and the country promised to be quiet, except from a few discoatentad intriguers, who had not in fluence or power to annoy the Government. Some few forts still held out in the liantleish, where the Arabs had taken refuge; and at sate of them, Ware Gaum, the army had sutfereskseine loss, but a strong battering trrain had been etitt -thither, by which it would soon be reduced. Oa Thursday . ..the-National Society for the Educe lion of the Poor in the principles of the L'-•tahlished Church, held a Meeting at St. Martin's Vestry-room, the Lord Bishop of LONDON in the Chair. Seventeen' fresh Schools were uoited to the Society, and several grants of money from 2UI. to 1001. were made to wards the erecting, enlarging, or fitting up of School. rooms. Among the latter donations was his Roysl flightless the Prince LEctroto of SAXE-COSURG.— Ms Royal Ilighness has also signified his intention of accepting the office of Steward at the nest Anni versary Meeting in St. Paul's Cathedral, for the be nefit of the'sons of the Clergy. Such proofs of at tachment to the Church of England on the part of this benevolent Prince, must be highly gratifying to the friends of our excellent Establishment. It has long been known that there are wise heads at the Mint. Not only great embarrasment bas arisen •le consequence of the name of the Italian, PISTR TAW, baying been allowed to be inserted in the newcrdwn pieces, but reach espence to the country wil l be oc casioned by the step now necessary to remedy the in ' trusion. The whole coinage must he recast, for the purpose of having the name of PISTRUCCI erased from 31. This alteration cennorbe made in the old die.— A. new one most s tberotoes * be struck. r '§TATtSMAIst FORGERY. , . ' The crime of Forgery is justly considered, in moral as well as a legal point of view, as one of the highest magnitude; ter it Is in the nature of that crime to destroy confidence, and sever the bonds that unite the various interests of society. But the cri minality of this offence has not always been held in the same light, nor has death, transportation, or slitting the nose (the old mode of punishment), al. ways followed the proof of guilt in this particular. Rank and political station sometimes make a great I . difference in the estimation of moral turpitude ; and I true it is, that the greatest criminals are allowed to escape, whilst the gallows groans with petty etienders. I Mr. Prriand his Colleagues afford a memorable proof 1 , that Fargery, on the most extended scale, was not con sidered "neither a moral or." legal offence; and the impunity vouchsafed to a most illustrious Doke and his Staff, forms a 'convincing proof of the fact 7--- that the utterance of Forged Notes, knowing them to be forged, is not punished with death ; oar the possession of Forged Notes, with the knurr4dge that they were forged, always deemed desist viol; of trans portation. The method adopted by PITT and his friends to destroy the credit of the French Revolu tionary Goverment, by causing its assignats or notes to be forged to an immense event in England, and sent over to the Dgke of YOUICS army, to be distri buted in France at random, is well worthy of being held in remembrance ; and in the impunity which it met from the Judges of that day, might well afford an apt comparison with the lenity shown to the POMP crime at the present period. The following which we deem it, almost a duty to republish, will show the difference which rank and political bias make in the interpretation of moral guilt, though the nature of the offence in the cases that offer fur con trast is the same. • NO RTH ERN EXP ED MON. • • • Infortnetion from Captain Muirheed, of the ship Larkins, respecting the Discovery Ships in Davis's Strait : f.rft th• ice on 23d of Auga,t, lat. 75. 32. N. long. 51. W. On the 14th of Aug. he last raw the Discovery Ships rounding a Cape, supposed to be in 76. N. Int. long. 5'2. W. ; at thst time he was in 75. 46. N. (the far thest lie had been this year) long. 51. 3:). The ships Atiel and Ererthorp, of fluli, %shirt he supposes have not yet attired, %ere close to them, and had, no doubt, much later communication with them than he had. The [Atkins remained fast to some ice from the 13th to the 18th of August. Captain Muirhead ob served a great deal of water to the N. W. and con cyived, when the wind case off the land, that it would make a clearance for the Discov•ry Ships to get much farther to the Northward, particularly ac the ice was then breaking up fa“. The weather was getting much clearer, from the host taking place in the ;eight. Captain Nluit head spiwars very sanguine as to the ships succeednig, not only from *hat he has stated, but from observationa which he inside last sear, when he got as far as 76. 15. N., and where he had a very heavy sea from the Northward, depending, in his oleiui n, on a large fret k of water beim; in that di• cretin,' : et that time ( Ist August) 1817) he could not see any ice, nor did he find any until he got back to 75. 30. N. IN TIIIS COURT 01' KING'S BENCH, Nov. 18, 1795. SITTINGS IN 1 VII NI, lICFORE LORD KENYON. FORGED As.:IGNATs FOR TDE MIKE OF YORK'S ARMY. AND OT!IL1t EXPEDITIONS TO THE CONTINENT. C'+l►'ain Muirhead found in lat. 76. N. 8 points 'sestet I y varistion. °Elle Officers and men were quite well when the Larkins h►et communicated with them. It may be remarked that the longitude here given is from that of Greenland, as laid dbwn in the Charts, which Captnin ans.; discovered to be ten de grees too tar to ther.aGt ward the real position of the Ships on the 18th of August wee 76. N. Wig. 62. W. - C'r4 l -- , !raft. .1f - the Plehrtiff, int Obedience to the higher CLIELSEA f4':IIISR-WORKS COVPANY. pi)* era had made these plates for the Duke of York's army, that cirtunsstafte teeteredAhe case, . . . - .1 1 Thursday a eery tiotnerons end highly re4peette Tittle were certain laws, not to be transgressed by Meeting of the Inhabitants of Westminster, Chelsea; one station, even at war with another; as abstaining and its environs; took place at the Gun Tevern; from poisoned arms, quarters in war, &c. But his Pimlico, for the purpose of taking into consideration Lordship said, he did not know that this was contrary' the attempt made by the Clieldea Water. Works to the taus of nations. 5 Company to levy upon the inhabitsOls an additional 'foe Jury found a verdict for the Plaintiff I tax of 50 per cent.; also to enter into reiolutiona re- Lord I.I(SKINE, in this case contended upon the spectirg the exorbitant charge made by that Com priwctple laid down by the laws which Harms poor I pany for the supply of tearer. people frit FotwattY, that it was a gross moral of_ A few roistutes after twelve o'clock, C. CiAlaki, fence —that it • was a wicked fraud—a crime that I Esq. took the Chair, and proceeded to read the Ite. called for absolute punishrneut, from its own nature, quisition, and briefly stated the ()Netts for which and the raischiefs it was calculate.l to bring upon the Meeting was convened. He then proceeded W roc : id s /J. But ' 4 the flank" not being in the case- state, that their object was not to wage war against the " Bank Sluitent" not being implicated-no fears the Company, but to discuss the merits temperately of 6( the ta res . ' n ut b e i ng paid—iii short, no alarm end dispassionatelf, and if possible satisfactorily to for 'the Ettgli6li Notes being entertained, Fotwettir all parties. He was aware that the Company had became uttered I.y " circa:Haat:eta" from A CRIME i embarked a large sum of money, and he was confi ' mtiturtso DE ATII, to a practice JUscItIABLE ix dent there was no hostile wish upon the part of the -and highly proper to be done! by a Mini. inhabitants to preclude them from a proper oampen ! sler of State ! and a Commander in Chief of the cation.-( Hear I old applanse.)—Several Resolu j Army!! !--tio Muck for the principles upon which (ions were before him, which he should laser the ho 'the law of forgery is founded. So much for the con- gongs of reading and putting to the sense of th• sistency of its operatives, and the justice of its ap. Meeting, and he hoped that every Gentleman Would plication. • be permitted so give his sentiments, either on tbd _ . one Fide or the other, without interruption. Before{ I o +Pieter, he proceeded In reed the Itesigutions, Ile should take leave to read to the Meeting some very judicious observations which appeared in a Paper of the thy. 'l'wo totters from a Mr. K. King were then real to the Meeting; one was to the Company hi July, 1818, dii.tiprosing of the steps they wore about to take, and the other was to the Chairman of thti dee, spuloglsii•g for his . absence, and iecommending Meeting to take place in the evening, *Koh would be more calculated to insure s getiortil sttendinee. This proposition not having been put and duly seconded, the CHAT RM 414 now read the Resolutions collectively (fur ;;liicit see . Adrerliternent), and he was about to read them s•ip4ririviyi *teen a Gettrurrean srepperi 1 . .., ward, and stated himself to be a Proprietor, and all he Lad to bay 'wig,. that if a considerable rise did riot take place in the rents, .the Company could tict carry on the supply., ftie they had already esperiPticed a loss of 40:)01. a years and he hail never received more than three and o. half per taut. upon his shares, and he Was quit.. cer. dais; it. was not the wish of the inhabitants that thti IComplloiy should he at _a 4.•:•.—(Cr/es of No, au!) An Ist' lIIITANT (we believe Me. Teasley ) asked the Meeting a hat could they think of a Company, who for 40 jeers bad tint ifitidell a far - 1111j Ss was the fact with this Company, and what the Gentleman could mean by that • ward wit!iout knowing the real circumstatic Company. , The Iteaolutions were so errotte . t he should not offer her word, • • AN.-" The Aleeting must judge of that themselves." Mr. Wit.sow observed, that the ells eget for (he Sopa I.ly of aster in that neighbourhood was much moid enormous than in the tteiglihriartiond of Berkeley. square, Allietintile.street, Sac. To a house in that vicinage, which let from 9.5)1 to 3001. I year, bbd water 'resit was 31. 10s, per year; but lot a Small house in that neighbourhood (Pimlico), where that rent was bet (101. per sauna), and there were Daly threeinhahiiants h rthe hoots., the rent of the Chelsea Wator.Works Company was '2l. lu point of fact (laid the speaker),"the object of the Chelset•Cous.. pany appeared to be to gel as much money as pose Bible from where and whom they could. The . 11A I R IN then 101 l the or'irr lieaotutlisa, to which sherd appeared a! Intel his; Shies- dikentirt:l4. After which Mr. *f st,EY asked the Clialrotrin. if it would '.trot he hatter to have she esaliclarlion of kno whit that that which ass set forth i., the Ite,out ion. eta. substantially true-a great deal of it wits'groantled on falsehood. • A voice from the crowd -" 'fore kin out !" tries of - No, a', nal" Sir. Tavatev.--•• I think the name of a man who could be. have so indecorously ought to be known." Oar. of •• Ills mime, Ma nattier A Iltyrcnsa.-'• Ifu: no, ee!-it was only a slip, it could not be meant." An INHABITANT (wet Mr. Edwards) o'werved. that it appeared ill be the twit the %‘.tratv Caairdian tuat per cell.. 94Ifillid he titlet'ed,t *impanv, provided they would guarantee the inhabitants t being raised shy more. A Voice. -•• >s trim; Oh -rat otter. liked.'" To ibis Itetolutlon [An neiatite treads were held up as before. A. a •NRASITANT.-" What I satinet yin; accept of 2) per cent. ?"-( Good laughter.) Mr. TAIIIILEI, iiddrealog the Chairman, said, he Will Rammed to obtrude himself thus, but a person below him had stated that 20 per cent. would tie by far too much, and that lii per rent. would be sufficient. Ile (sir. T.) would take upna himself to say; that if they would give per old. upon the capi al. the Cnill t iany would lie glad to accede to the proposal. A likatos in the Study of the room vociferated -" ar. Pre sident, at the time I lived in the pariah n Si. Cle.irge's The CaAIooMAN directed, that as this Gentleman appeared to have mionelliing of importance to cuminiiiiicaw, he had better conic forts ord. Ile did soomeid leaving passed his name to the Chairman, and owed, that when no lived in the parish of St. George, he was applied to so cut sitf the water will; which he Raz then supplied, and that he should in Csiii•ioletillisht lie cop plied with it for a twelvgmontli free of et pence. Ile was theft charged -6t. a year, buf afterwards the Collector called Nola him for 445. Au lawiarrmer.-" That is 50 per cent." The CHAIRMAN then observed, cost the next thing he had to do way to make an attack tsp.') their pockets for a subscriptiott ut Vs. 6d. each, so further the rad. or the Meeting Mr. Maoscr (one of the Comoritt , e).-" [here is the first half-crona."-(Throwitte it on the table.) Mr. Tauscer.- - If that Gentleman has not paid sip b 1 ater-rate. I shall object Co him."-(l.uud laughter and disap probation.) CUAIRRIN -" I have not paid up mine--and, I believe. If that he your objection, you will have to, make it to all of Hs." A Committee was then proposed, and an Inhabitant proposed Aar. Chandler. CHAIRMAN.-" What Mr. Chandler I - Isaiatircaer.-" Mr. Chandler of the, Friend.at4band. Vitatieth street." :CHAIRMA‘N.-" A &lead is nerd.'!•- 1. ,Laughing ) Mr. CHANDLER.-s" I twg leave to *Wuhan - my name. Mr 4 Chairman; hot I shat) he most tiaopy Iso redder the Comaiitteo all the assistance in sbv power to fuether their objects." Mr. Connote. of the Magdalen, was thea inildiaatcd, and elected our of the•Cmainiittee. Ike Itesolationis having passed, and the Comsailtys jwitif power to add to their mot her) Maytag been arpirOur , the Meeting were about to adjourn, Wien Mr. Maoists" of • Isrom ii pi.i-grove, came restart( and stated, that he was not present a hen the Resolution pasted ing the Company 20 per cent. Ile for one wou,d not ngrfee so any such propo lle hail rebated it) ;eau at Brom:pip), and had laid out 90301. In hott.es there, and every' net of hot tenants complained of the want of water 3 the pipes had br4l eaatnined, and no imperttm nts were foam), and if there hard, he would have remedied them. The CRCIRMAK maid, the Reintetinn had been properly moved, seconded, and carried, so that no alteration cook! be made in it. Mr. lIARPIOIN said. he was dispotted to do every Shine that wai fair and honourable 3 but he for nut would not accede to that proposition, although he was ready to resider the Commit. tee evens son. ice in his power indeed he had. no object on to a he Commit ee-man.-Chosen accor seol d to l g i r A l ß i r ; r ti A ), N r c ero n r7 e w (l ho th b a i t kaneeViii% o fa she -o"u"sad'';ocat'• he tint cat; a iu which hey were embarked.- Carttad. ETRONGITHARM IN LUKYNT. From the state of the pleadings, the affrmative in thie case tieing on the Defendant, Mr. EIiSKINC, O IIO was leading Counsel for Mr. Lukyn, opened the CR9O. This, he said, ass en action brought by the. Plain. tiff, who was holder of a Hill of Eschaitgo for 501. ■gainat the Defendant as drawer. Nothing was clearer than that the law would take care that no niell Plonk, come into 'Court of Justice to enforces con upt and illezal contract. _ _ The case be had to lay before his Lordship, and the GP1111441111 of the Jury; teas this:—Mr. Lokyti applied to Plaintiff((no matter by whom desired) to do that, w hicn w hen it was done, in the opinion of the Learned Counsel, was one of the wickedest things that could be done, aryl certainly extremely disgrace ful to a nation that practised it: as it was effecting the ruin of thousands of innocent persons. Although the Plaintiff might not be subject to any indictment, for forging plates for French Assignsts : yet he ep. prellended his Lordship would he of opinion, if it turned out that the consideration of the bill in ques. Lion was, plates for printing off Forged Assignats, that the Plaintiff could oat recover; if his Lordship entertained any doubt upon the point, he would re serve the consideration of it till another opportunity. Independently of the principle of the Wino, it might be extremely dangerous to encourage such applies• lions, in as much as they might lead to other forge. ries of that sort that might prove fatal to ourselves. K mat' possessing the dexterity of the art, might be tempted to destroy the public credit of our own country, by forging our own Bank-notes: very few persons, it was confessed, had arrived at such a de. gree of dexterity : only one person had appeared dexterous enough in the art of engraving to be able to accomplish it. The foundation of this action was forgery, fraud, and falsehood. Mr. Otslon, letter-founder, was here celled on the part of the Defendant. Mr. MlNG.tir, the leading Counsel for the Plain. tiff, objr cted to his being exlmined. He contended Mr. Caslon was not a competent witness, in as much as he was an endorser of this bill, and, therefore, came to invalidate his own security. Mr. ERSKINE submitted to the Court, that Mr. Caslon came ►o speak against his interest, for if the Plaintiff obtained a verdict in consequence of Mr. Caslon's evidence, he would be obliged to pay one half of the bill, because he and the Defendant were partners in this business. On the other hand, if the Plaintiff was defeated in this &clot', he might •commence another against Mr. Casio'', as indorser of the bill in question. Mr. Caslon was here call- Mined, who said, that the consideration of the bill 'in question, was plates made by the Plaintiff, in consequence of directions from him (the witness), and which directions he had received from Lukyn. He said, he was employed as the middle person between the Plaintiff and Defendant : Lukyn gave him a copy of a French assignat, which was produced in Court, and that assigns t, be said, he delivered to the Plaintiff, to direct him in making his plates. The Plaintiff at fist refused to do it ; but Lukyn said, they were for the expedition, and for the Duke of York's army, and that it was with the knowledge and approbation of the Secretary of State : that the I Plaintiff was perfectly safe in doing it, and that if he still entertained doubts, he might call on the Se cretaries of State ; this he said was confirmed by Colonel Smith, AGENT TO THE DUKE OF YORK'S ARMY ! ! !—The witness believed the plates were very well done. Lukyn had immense numbers of these forged assignats printed off, and went abroad with them.---On cross-examination, he said the Plain tiff certainly refused to make these plates, till he was told the Government of this country thought it was a good measure. Lord liEwiroti said, if the Plaintiff had forged these plates for the purpose of fraud, he was of opi nion that it nuzht not tjt have been made the founds. lion of an action. Lift Mr. Callon swore the con- - . LINES Written no readinT, in a Tore through Franco, dti. &c. by Mr. TUOMAII RAFFLES, A. M.. au observation that •tte did not see u:iogle inais in Dieppe that had, to his Ettgli3h eyes, the ap pearanc, of a Gentleman. Oh, Dieppe ! is it true, what onr Author affirms. Your females are lovely, good boomed, and clean; And your men, like a parcel of hulf-fami•!t'd worms, Are meagre, inelegant. dirty, and lean ? Oh, Dieppe! what, no Gentlemen seen in your streets! 11•. w deeply the Ladies most feel the di•grace; 'Twould he well if JOHN BULL, 'mongst Isis other conceits, Would strive to improve so unpollsit'd a race. Bow, Oct. 17, 1818. The Times says, that 66 The individuals exiled by the French Government have proved such disagree. able guests to the countries which have had the fortune to shelter them, that an outcry has been raised against them, and a determination formed on part of those wham they have tormented, henceforth to re fuse them that asylum which they have justly forfeit. ed at home, and the French Council of State hare considered the project of a law for superadding some provi,ions to those which already existed relative to the pain r , f banishment." This piece o f new s i s ton absurd to deserve refwation ; but the paragraph or the Times is worth reading by those who study human nature, to know to what degree of baseness it can descend. They will see that there can be found, even in England men degraded enough to direct their virulency against the unfortunate, and possessing the effrontery to treat, as State criminals, citizens torn from their country, by one of the most arhitrary pro scriptions recorded in history, who have never ceased demanding their trial, and who have not had the sit. ti g rartionnf t eing informed of what they are accused. —(Dublin Evening Post.) STAMP• OFFICE, Scarrwirn —We regret to find that the paragraph relative to the Stamp-otlie, inserted in a late number, was calculated to make an errrutenus impression. The new Solicitor of Legacy Duties has, it is true, a salary of 5001, per annum, exclusive. of salaries to his Clerks; but he is not, like his, pre decessor, to be allowed to charge any fees for the trouble he may have in managing the business en-. trusted to his charge. In this way it is estimated that a saving will be effected to the Public; end what is of still more importance, there will obviously be lees inducement to enter into vexatious and harass• ing litigations. We are extremely happy in having it in our power to make this satisfactory explanation. (Scotsman.) On Tuesday night, as Mr. Cunningham, dancing. master, of Argyll-street, was returning home, when near Kilburn, he was stopped by two men, who robbed him of a 11. note and some silver. At a tate hour, on Wednesday night, the pre mises of Mr. Arnold, at the back of the English Opera-house, were entered, and between three and four hundred pounds weight of lead was stripped from off the roof, and stolen. PRICE OF But.t.torr.—Yesterday Gold was with out any quotation. New Dollars ) and Silver in har t, staudaid ) *ece at.ss. 4{d. -•- • ' .._ ~,i I. P 1 , t I r t, i 1 A / I I • i % i II i l , 11 1 t i 6. / Al. 71 A " 1 : •r I •