The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-01-25 00:00:00

MEM.. N i- - 'Lord NUGENT begged to say a word on what had fallen from the Honourable Alderman, in the elaborate vindication which be had entered into of himself as to what be bad been charged with having said in his ori ginal speech. In the Honourable Alderman's first speech, be bad thought fit to charge her Majesty with having been guilty of a crime in het letter to the King, for which any other subject would have been amenable to the law. When, however, the Honourable Alderman was called upon to point out the pas/sages in which that charge was founded, he failed to produce them, and professed that he had forgotten them. He now again called upon him either to produce them or to remember them. Mr. Alderman HEYOATE observed that he had al ready stated that he had not the letter by him. One passage of it hr hail quoted. Lord NIJOENT resumed :—Then the Hon. Alderman could not complain of any imputation of barbarity or un tuanlinoss, when lie was obliged to confess that be had made his charge against the Queen upon documents' which he had not in his possession at the moment, and the passages in which he had forget.—(Hear.)—He (Lord Nugent) disclaimed any intention of defending tlie answers given in the name of the Queen to addresses which had been presented to her ; lint at the same time he anise say it was not manly, considering the unfortunate situasiqu in si hich her Majesty was placed—the obloquy is ...cla the venal part of the press was daily pouring upon Iter— i it was. lie repeated, not manly, a hen so irritated sad assailed, to charge her with a want of coolness in the answers which were penned in a moment of such ir ritation —(Neer, hear.)—lle hoped the lion. Alderman would excuse him when lie said, to charge the Queen with the expression of indignant feeling which her situ r.itii wrung from lire., resembled the conduit of the In quisitor. who. after putting his victim on the rack, made tie expres:4on of agony his tortures had wrung front the victim a p oaf of his guilt, and an aggravation of his offence. — { Hear, bear.)—lle must say that this mode of attack wa neither manly nor English.—(f leer, hear.) — He (lard 31ngent) highly disapproved of s o me of the ansu era to which her Majesty's name had been affixed— he disapproved of them as much as any men could.— (Hear, hear.)—But he blower' her advisers rather than herself : whatever was the culpability attached to anj of these answers, it in his opinion vanished into air when compared with certain answers which his Majesty hi .d been advised to give to other addresses.—(Hear, hear.) One answer, in particular, could not hare escaped the Hots. Alderman, tor it was generally addressed to the body to which he belonged ; it was the answer to the Corporation of London—an answer that reflected disho hoots upon liis Majesty's advisers, and which was ealcu tiled to produce an extent of mischief, in comparison with vs bids any of the Queen's answers sunk into nu tliing.—(Hear, hear.) 'llse petition was then brought up, Lid on the table, and ordered to be printed. REPORT OF THE AODRF.SR. Mr. BANKES appeared at the Bar with the Report of the Address. On the qoestion that it be brought up, Mr. W. LAMB observed, that with respect to most of the topics to which the Address referred, there WI uhl be various opportunities, of discussing theni. There was one, however, of so urgent a nature, and on which a step might suddenly he taken so irremediable as to place it entirely out of the power of that House, that he felt it to be impossible, consistently with his sense of date, to allow it to pass without a few observations. That topic was the present state of the affairs of Naples, awl of the conference nulls reference to that Mate, were supposed be going on among the gee* be particularly rose for as, to make a remark or two on the statement in the Speech (rm the Throne, and in the speech of the Noble Lord opposite on this interesting subject. As far as he could tinsierssand those statements, they professed the observance of a strict nectrality by the British Govern ment, as 14%11 its an anxious wish (or the general preser vation of tranquillity in Europe ; and, if that should prove impossible, fur at least securing the continuance of peace as far as this coitutry was concerned. It was to the principle of non-interference on the part of this country., thus distinctly asserted, that be objected. wh at Gad b een th e consequences of a similar principle whet' the partition of Flatland took place,' Were they peace and tranquility? No. The consequence, on that occasion, of that principle of non-interference, on the part of this eonntry, with the designs of foreign Poten tates, had been the long and inveterate wars in which Europe had since been involved, and which had left this country and the continent in the state of distress in which they now found thews' Ives. Such had been the disastrous result of our decli--ing on that occasion to co operate with France in interfering to prevent the ini quitous project then contemplated from being carried into etfeet. What he wished particularly to impress on the minds of the Noble Lord and his i:olleagnes was, that it hostilities were once to commence in any part of Europe, no man could tell how far they might extend ; and to urge them to easels an interference with respect to Naples as might prevent any such calamity. By such a wise sod timely - interference the peace and tranquillity of this consitre would stand a much better chance of being effectually secured than by the indulgence of any fallacious hope, that if hostilities were once colunsenee;l in any quarter w bitterer we might be able to keep this country front being compelled to enter into the contest. Lord CASTLEREAGH observed, that as it was im• possible to dispatch a subject so interesting and im portant in a few sentences, it would in his opinion be more expedient to postpone its consideration until an opportunity might be afforded for discassieg it in Par liament in the ample manner which it deserved. He begged not to be understood as giving any opinion on that question in the present instance; but he was quite ' sure, from what had fallen from an Honourable Heinle man of so enlarged a mind, and whose candid moiler of discharging his Parliamentary duty did him so much hunonr, that he could nut be at all acquainted with the duty on which alone any observations on the present state of affair* in Naples could justly be founded. WARRE remarked, that the Noble Lord had POW reprated those observations which he had made in • bls speech yestenlar, and which were strongly calcu lated to arrest attention and to excite alarm. With re spect to .1 question that he wished to ask the Noble lard, he felt himself especially justified in putting it. I•ersusc some of his Majesty's ships of war had been employed zn a service connected and interwoven with the recent trensastions in the kingdom of Naples; he meant its traespuning the King of Naples to Leghorn. Ile therefore begeed to ask the Noble Lord, if he could fsresee the prohiltie time when he wouhi be ahle to fur nigh the House with information, either in the shape of documents or otherwise, un this most interesting and important subject; on the result of which, perhaps, de pended the peace and tranquillity of Europe ; and of no citatory inure than England? Lord CASTLEREAGH professed himself enable to Rive any precise answer to the question of the Honour able Gentleman. If the Honourable member would, at a subsequent period, move for any information which 6u might nista fur as to the course pursued by this essolOY is the transaction, there could he no hesitation in pro ducing it ; but be would himself see, that any comma aiestion respecting the larger European question woiW he attended with more difficulty. This, however, he had no hesitation in distinctly declaring, that though there TE? ' t had certainly been no difficulty on the part of tlle English Admiral on the station, to aWord the King of Naples every possible fdtil!ty for his voyage from Naples to Leg horn, yet it ought not to be inferred from thit inter ference that England had any participation eithit in the invitation of his Majesty the 'Km, of Naples to LaYbach. or in any other part of the policy of the three great powers on the subject. Sir ROBERT WILSON said, that he had been given to understind that a Neapolitan of high rank and elm.- racier had been sent to the English Court by the Con stitutional Government recently established in Naples. but that having tendered his credentials, he W,4, though received with the Noble Lord's usual urbanity, not re cognised in his character of Envoy, on the ground that it was impossible for the British Government to recog nise any act of the new Goverunient at Naples, until the Allied Powers hail come to some decision on the negro elation then carrying on at Troppan. and since at Lay back. On that ground, after remaining three weeks here, be understood that the individual in question re turned to the Continent. If that was really the fact, It mattered little what hope of the preservation of riese• might be expressed in his Majesty'a, or in the Ministers Speech, for here was a direct overt act of hostility against the Neapolitan Government. In sending back the Minister whom he had deputed to us, we had rou - mitted an act towards the Neapolitan people, which if they were as powerful as they were brave, they would sot fail instantly to resent. It was the more ignoble on the part of the British tiovernment, that the act was di rected against a nation too feeble to express its sense of the injury. He knew that the Noble Lord would say that a Neapolitan Minister was at present resident in London ; hut he resided here only berause the existing Government of Naples were desirous, that if the Minisb r whom they had accredited to the Court of London should nut he received, all intercourse with that Court should not be therefore suspended. In this lie confessed lie thought they acted unwisely, because he thonglit that they would have done mods better boldly to assert all their rights as an independent nation ; and if they must perish, at least to perish without the slightest comprise tome of their honour.—(Hear, hear !) Lord CASTLEREAGH declared the impossibility of entering into all the details of this subject, even were he prepared himself to feel all the animation with which the gallant General appeared invariably to contemplate every posaible species of Revolution. Ile protested against the principle that the British Government were bound to rush f.orward and acknowledge esery change that might he made in a foreign Government without the least deliberation as to its nature. On the contrary, the British Government had distinctly declared, that it could not instantly consent to a technical and formal re cognition of a state of things which required much deli- beration to estimate. All that he (Lord C.) now wished to press on the House was, that while they brill the Go vernment of this country strictly to acronnt for the en , gagements whirls they made with other powers, they would not interfere to n frequently in the policy of other powers. Those powers were as much entitled to art in dependently with reference to any point in which they considered their own interests involved as this country would be in similar circutilstaucea. Sir It. WILSON wished to ask the Noble Lord wise the nos-recognition of the new Neapolitan Minister was accompanied by any circumstances hostile to the new Constitutional Government of Naples ? Lord CASTLEREAGH—CertainIy not. Mr. JAMES adverted to the Austrian Loan, and re quested to know if there was any prospect of its being repaid? I ford emsnipurittni to that In Ile riot pe• rioil after the contraction of that Loan, there had b en some payments upon it; but for a long course of year. no payment had recently been interchanged on the sub ject, they were not of a nature to hold out any great prospect of a speedy repayment.—(A laugh.) Mr. JAMES then gave notice, that he would shortly submit to the House a motion for l'apers explanatory of the subject. Sir It. HERON was sure the question of Naples would not he treated as one of delicacy by Austria. It was well known by every English Gentleman who hail travelled on the Continent, that the conduct of the Go vernment of Auitria was so execrable in Italy, that any thing like freedom or independence was utterly incom- Catible with the continuance of its power. Ministers ad by their measures brought the country into such a state, that it was impossible we could enter upon a new war without immediate destruction to our Imasicet Were it not fur that, there was no English heart foot *ould not anxiously wish that this country should vigb googly interfere to put down this new system of diplo macy. and counteract the designs of the three holy and roeal inquisitors who took upon themselves to sit in judgment en what they were pleased to consider the crimes of independent nations. Nappy result of that most happy piece of royal blasphemy—the Holy Alli ance! Mr. HUME said it had been stated to him, that an application had been made to our Government, to know if permission would be granted to export to Naples a supply of anus, for the manufacture of which a com mission had been received in this country. If such an application had been made and refused, it would show that onr Uovernnient favoured the objerts of Aus tria, rather than the struggle of the Neapolitans. He therefore begged to know if any application as that which Iss had described had been made Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that he bad not heard of any such application. Mr. BANKES then brought, up the Report. After it had been read a second time, and on the question for agreeing to it, Mr. HUME, adverting to the paragraph which re lated'to the reductions said to have been made in the Military establishment of the country, and he presumed that his Majesty's Ministers were prepared to say in what branches, and to what extent, those reductions Lad taken plaec. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that it was impossible for him to answer at present.— The nature of these reductions would appear when the Army Estimates should be laid on the Tatar. Mr. HIJME said, he should have supposes! that Mi nisters, before they put the passage in trestion into his Majesty's mouth, would ha►e theestimates before them, otherwise they had made his Majesty state that, of the troth of which they could not be assured. The Address was then agreed te, and ordered to be presented by the whole House ; and such Members of the House as were of his Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council were ordered to attend his Majesty, to know when be would be graciously pleased to receive the same. On the motion of Lord CASTLEREAGH, his Ma jesty's most gracious s➢eech was ordered to he taken into further consideration tomorrow. Lord CASTLEREAGH gave notice, that on Wednes day he would submit to the House a motion on that pan of ►is Majesty's most gracious Speech, which re lated to the prevision to he made for bet Majesty the Queen- Mr. WETHERELL, after a few prefatory remarks, resolved the motion which be made yestenlay, foe Conies of all the Collects since the Accession of James theist, in whisk the name of the Queen Consort hod been in troduced. &e. Lord CASTLEREAGH said he had no objection to the production of the decussate DOW moved for, LTESSiAN ••••••r• although at the same gine be saw no *washy for the motion, as facts of a siMilar kind were often stated in debate, and assumed al true without any official,mathelc tication. His oppositfoo to the motion of the hpg. and learned gent. on a former °erasion, had proceedek 'from the unusual, and, as be coneeived, not very prudent Mo ment at which it was brought forward. The motion was then agreed to. The usual sessional orders were read by the Speaker. Mr. LUSIGNOTON laid on the table accounts of the revenue of Great Britain and Ireland, for the year ending the sth of January, 1821. Adjourned at nine o'clock. HIGH WATRR AT LONDON RHINO: eo-monnow. Morning. M min. after 6.—Evening. 14 min. after 7. PRICE OF imams TIITI Beek Stock per Cent. Ref. 711 741 711 I per Cent. Cos. 7017I1i1ij it per Cent. A 4 yet Cents. 17") 11911 bpt Ct. Navy 14134 ISO 61 b per rest. Salo Long Ann. IS 14461 Iwo. Seer Cent.. DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. Irish 6 per Cent. Ind►a Monk Ditto Bonds —I. --s.--s. pos. South-Mrs Old A nn. hz.Billsed. Os. OIL Ss. pro. issuniers for Money %I pot Hank for As:eosins fob. fnr Aerl 71441 72 71111 t.ott. Ticket• 431. 14s. et) c g ttatefisnatt. •- "Tlt 111111111111 lIITATIIII II T3COSPORCICD WIT 1111" 1111 .TATFSaAN. • ' LONDON: TIIVESDAT EVENING, JANI'AIRV 25, 1921. STOCK EXCILINGE. ONE O'CLOCK. Consols for the Account hare been done at 72 this morning, whkh is a rise of three per Cent. since this day week; the price is now about ;hi for the Account. Paris papers of Sunday arrived this morning. They do not contain one single article of intelligence. :lopaprrs were published on the '2lst. Passe,' FIL7NDS.—Five per Cents. hlf. 90c. Millis Papers arrived this morning to the 17th Dec. from which we give the following essracts: 11 LIFAX PROVINCIAL I.F. ISLATURE. Yesterday being the dad appointed for the meeting of the Provincial Legislature, Isis Excelleney, Sir JAMS Kent., went in state to the Council Chamber. The house of assemble was then commanded to proceed to the choice of a Speaker, and SIMoN BR IDATIIIIET Rome, EsQ. being elected, his Excellency was then pleased to open the Session with a Speech. CoNtsitaci %L.—The Cocernor of DOMINICA issued a proclamation on the :141 ult. permitting the importation into that island, for six months from that slate, of lum ber, spars, pitch, tar, turpentine, hemp, flax, bread, po tatoes, wheat and gratin, authorising the vessels bringing those articles to take in return, env sad molasses, not exceeding the value of the article. EXTRACT OP A LETTER ?ROM THE II %TANN A. Darr. 10.—Our last was under date of the I inst. We now write to you witp a view oftlaing away all impromista miliat might have caused for the state of this City. From exaggerated reports of an insubordination amoitgoor troops, at the moment a fear was entertained that sour ill disposed 'nen would endeavour to profit of the occasion to excite tumult. Now we think it proper to inform you such dread has completely r a pi.thed. The troops have returned to their duty, consequently we feel ourselves in a state of safety. The proceedings at the Mansion-House, yesterday, cannot but be looked upon as, in every sense, one of the most striking scenes of the day. Notwithstanding the precantions of the Loan M stmt, an organised band, prepared for the purpose of disturbance, tuo►k post at the foot of the Hustings, and with every means they possessed of vociferation and even of personal violence, did their utmost to defeat discussion and suppress site independent voice of as numerous rnd re spectable a body of Merchant• and Bankers as ever were assembled in any city in the world. Mr. J. SMITH, the brother of Lord Ctanixt:von, opened the business of the day, and was opposed by such an up roar as scarcely admitted him to be heard ; but the most vehement and determined resistance on the part of the inarticulate enemies of reason awl freedom was reserved for Mr. Baits°, whose manly declarations in support of genuine English spirit had rendered bins specially obnoxions to the mercenary herd. Is spite of all their efforts, however, and never, it ap pears, were more scandalous exertions made for the promotion ,of disorder and :jot, the great object of the Meeting was triumphantly carried, by a majority which has been computed 26 Sher Is one. This mortification of the braw lers, though severe, is the least weighty part of the disgrace that is their portion. The base and despe.l rate spirit they displayed, exposes to contempt andi indignation the hypocritical rrie. they are tontinu ally •tiering in defence of order and the public l good. Whe.•ver they venture to meet the asserters of constitutional rights, con.ciotii of the weakness of their soothers as well as of their arguments, they have recourse, where they can act with impunity, to the esterrise of physical force. The same spirit that &aslant! the men who dispersed the netting at !daubed's', aed at Kilmainham, was utauifest is the Egyptian-Hall and is a true repression of the despot ism, which for sordid purposes, they wish to esereiWl over the nation at large. PAtalLiT PUBLIC 1112171:14.—A very 111111111,T0114 111141 respectable abetting took pleat in the pupaloos cowl) of Paisley. un Friday brit, fur the pnrpose of addressing his Majesty to trews his Ministers; Sir Arlan Iless we ii i s te m vi.a. A number of Oratkootto of reek and forttne attended, who spoke with sock saistatioa in the geese of Reforms ; and the moologiows pooped were agreed to with 0111 7 one liiimagirst voice. Tint of room compels es to petrol a detail of the proceedings till to-no/trot. • The King held a Gran yesterday for the purpolle of receiving the Address of the Hoes, of Lords, which Mas presented by the Earl of tie!wire and Lord Prod hots in company with the Doke of Clarence; hit Arch bishop of Canterhury, the Bishops of London, [hetet, L'lngher, Landoll, Killatoe, the Dukes of Beanfort and Wellington, the harpies's of Salitbdry and Corn wallis, and Inch of the Cabinet Ministers as belong to the . Upper House. The address was read by the Lord elsticellor, and was most graciously received. The King afterwards gave audiences to the Lord Chancellor, Rarl of Liverpool and Viscount Sidnsouth. Prince Leopold called upon the Queen at Broadest burgh-house on Tuest!ay, alone, and remained dills her Majesty for two luittrs. Maa+rac or ST. ANDREWS, HoLaonN.---Yetterday a Meeting was held of the Inhabitants of the United Parishes of St. Andrew Holborn above Nei; and Sc. George the Martyr, to consider of an Address of Con gratnlation to the Queen; also an Addresi to the King to dismiss his Ministers; an 4 a 1 3 etitials to the House of Commons for the restoration of her Majesty's name to the Litur!l, and of all her rights and 1 1 privileges; and for a Reform in Parliament. Mr. Richard Horsman Sully was called to the Chair, and a string of Resnlutions was proposed by Mr. Galloway ' and seconded by Mr. Shout. Mr. Reynolds, the con missioner of the Insolvent Debtors' Court, opposed the Resolutions, and moved the previous question on them, which way seconded by Mr. Syked. Mr. W. • Took, Mr. Merryweather, Mr. Hamilton, Mr. Prance, and others afterwards addressed the Meeting, and Mr. Galloway replied. In the resdlt the Resolutions were carried by a large majority. A eery king eon- . eersation arose on the 4th Resolution, containing a reprobation of the conduct of those who had met at Gray's-Inn Coffee-house, and it was in the sequel agreed to. Addresses to her Majesty, the King, end the House of Common. were afterwards proposed, read, and carried. nit meeting did not break up till about 5 o'clock. The G,unnon Hall which has heen advertised to be held Tomorrow, is postponed until Monday nest. The Right Hon. F. Robinson, President of the Board of Trade, has lately visited Manchester, Shef field, anil other manufacturing towns, probably to lay the foundation of some Parliamentary measures foe their relief. In the ships, now fitting up for the next voyage of discovery, the births are all to be placed in the centre of the vessels, and the gangways are to pass round the sides. Lieutenant Reid, of the Griper, has presented to the Hunterian Museum at Glasgow, of which city hi is a native, several natural enrioeities which he brought from the Northern Expedition, among which is an entire head of the Musk Ox, a King Drake and Duck, with a cdllectiou of dried plants and minerals from Melville Island. I, Yettow PeTeß—The Governov of Lon'Cana, in !his Message to the Legislature, states a fact in rAa ' tion to the Yellow Fever at New Orleans, that merits panatela'. attention. He amens that nose entfisseik- • in the prison of that city were, in no instance, select to this dreadful malady :—that being cut off from society, and being secluded within the cells of a dnn geon, not one died of the prerailing fever. The fact (says the Washington Gazette), speaks volnilies. What will your non-contagonists say to it? It is said that a handsome stone bridge is to he erected over the Canal in St. James's Park, Instead of the Chinese wooden one now palling down. Tee UsDeaTaitiero To Do 50 Muss to 12 Horns tse 12 successive atve.—Lient. Owen started at - four ' o'clock yesterday morning, on the Basingstoke row!, reached Basingstoke, through Swallowileld, Heckarld, Stratlifield•Sav, &c. (15 miles) in three homer and fists minutes; anichal done forty miles in ten hours and a quarter. His route will be strait to gxeter, thence t.. Bath, through gomersetsh' s re, Oxford hire, Worcester shire, &c. into the Northern road. The pedestrian is 25 years of age, and of great powers. St:int:tan Courneriou.--.ln drawing a wile! duck. I recently shot by Capt. Blackman, of livrebant-street, the servant discovered within it a vegetable substance, curiously formed, and shard like a pear. It measures in circumference eight inches, .Lud when extracted from the bird, weigheJ nine ounces. A Pant uee --lee of these ferezions animals is said to be roaming through the bills between Anders sun's ferry and Wright's Title, in v.l. csointy. About ninety huntsmen were in quest of it last week. but found not a restage of it. It is supposed to have crossed the rive: into Lancaster count/. Three hon.. 1 dred men are to go in permit of this animal, on the lint snow that falls deep enough to attack it.--./. Arne ! views Paper.) Three lads were yesterday brought to Bow-street Mies for a burglary, whoa the person who gave them .IS eitar,Te was desirous to avail himself of the disco ' trey stated to be made by Mr. Megan Campbell, and I **decline the obligation and ezpence of presentees. la tins attempt however, be was, we understand, de feated by the Magistrate, who prevailed spots bias to ester into recefainacee to prosecute upon the teems doll were in use. It is highly necessary that this da bble point be settled. When Mr. Campbell's plea was admitted at the Mansion Hone, we tbseeght it completely establislud in justice and reason, as well is in the spirit and letter of the law. If it were fklly acknowledged and acted on at our Polieeneeme, we I are confident it wool.' be. a terror to efeil deers, mud a praise to them that do well. At an early hour yesterday morning, upwards of thirty men and women were taken In coffeefteheps in Beire-lane, and other places, in perloanata a warms from the Magistrates of Bow-street. Some of them were held to bail, sod onsets were discharged vun their owe mcognirnees. We heartily approve of peeper eiiiistice in sessirsof the bawds of the diesohde aid =Pato. The imi li o n i g cowlust of depredators is the oli% has an alarming height, and may net unjustly Wam bed on the prevalence of those sec- Waal places of resoit, which within these few years hate ben established in diferent parts ettbe town. We SINS it the sere necessary to point them ont mob kids for the legislation of the police, in Order to viadi late the credit of respectable bonen of a thotilar name, tirlaert, in the &a time, tits industrious elevens have an Apportanit, o 4 enjoying their hour of relattetionoaed tegalingwith *beret:age '• which cheers , but eot inebri . - ages." - We think it proper that this distinction as to eisiteedher Nand he stteegly molted and kepi in view. If selloilltle, Jae 23.....11ie Ranger ratter has Sent Oa a email antler, called the Nancy, laden with sae bendrei aid fair casts of spirits and soots dry geode. '« ~►.. ! • t A I 1 .1