The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-06-03 00:00:00

6 . -.lmgier".—.l.---,,--- —, I ' . - •PN 'r. . . . . . ? . , . . • , . . . 117'' Web;dike Hones imagine that property so diemibed could h- abating , uore thin one of the superioritles . Vet sm•li waethefact. But the system itself bad •as it was, was not more objectionable .than the mode of ' rving it into e ff ect. . The Ilowe,was to be told, perh , - . . * that . n the -Sheriff had . the appoiptment of the day of] • ... etertioa, and consequently it was in his power to fix 4; ' day when, perhaps, a number ot voters of a certain Mode of thinking must necessarily he absent in copse , fri-5UPL ,1164 4-1 1 WARIc e :# 1 10! ' - . Its Jf.llV,ll,.ls,Thiesuctrit fig .a fluid ter the rmal, • perabh jee bete votes .1..0..d . nittAllintiette-- -This. it: ~. • atemi,-iviiiryeleace brill*. - NtintlWWlitrilfarrot cos. , tieriiilit. filth the practice Wet( freintikkellem the eXtilti .... .• .go,'which..ittivfo r mwrird, J.,,altotillea•Whertoilolsyrwahl - • e seceseOrY•4 - JOlTlVOiii,i o; i o .o 4l 44o. o • ;•.4Usit 4.11 . , • -' - . *men was - art .10 *irk kitting dim. and -awl l iells seiZel • .'" 6 . fr failure sitis,niver 'knots . ' llie profeeiloo. 1 • ''' '..bargh.), Ho ronembered, in nue . tarnin,,,,Mbere - a do' • •-• .:Meibent was ,to lie • sent for at a distance of sixty milk ..before another voter could be allowed - to Vote, • • .. - - . ., - -Iffereeranes until •the retniolof:. the 'lnetssenger.-(A .. , ~ ... , , - 7 , **. g b)' Oat die . ditenel nyWkit:•teffrk Plaittititete elect , .. .... , ssfloss were no!.crediftb%e 0 htt;ka'fliV• '.../( 4 ,.fitiv One - PitT ;....••••;• lon bentightl4 'it'll' fttrAti . vdt'e t , (y.,- t t.,:ts ! ~,m i t 0 , , . . . jections trijbia'ai .. was s. litaNtt...pliscAgte nOl- 1 ... ' . • Voti n g i!Sitich PM Pr y 11 S tesitgildlie,4 Willis ti • •': ;Opp.. 'there Iltate.thep appeal& Do" . the Vourts to We, ~ 7 ; Amon of Unit; T'. •In Ate meeint'titel • speculations sorrel ..:.• no foe * . the tot §htai!tilltailabitbfq*lndgyolbatilo /;•••.* az.: , :?os • . ' 9 46sePeert'lberttlltertirtW intlitericelC •,,, ~...; • . 1 ,. 4 ,.. tehltribri whilhentbietiktittatt'iNteeke At•MaterfrOtl • •:''t dkibt, Wit of eemstese: • ItweAvele seat` vas the gait • •• • • :00 - pteeirt*ctio ; e :C9!trlF, that up ate . "? .. 01 co . tu u - I : se' nsit . .. s iireal . "* .. ifi l t"rti; Wen' . 14, ,o fheicdfectatono us . • • political ea*. ... ever, PAU ) nkjeci !rrattd.bli bees _ p l . ut snocei in, OW; _ ore the lime 10-mearow,•irben ' wt pledge - himself to shoji that I,oeJltical 1 • • ,• did operate isent.ateterielkert tipt, pap* e 4, lb* Lord : opposite , - la s mai ineritiok .he (toed A. H.J.: . pursuer.. 'l'bei. ,Nottle-Lord., atm 4oare farther , remarks. .. tee stem ofilte.Seeteti Itespreseettilita, sald.that hts • ' was to destroy me 'Maim. rigida . at to add •te thine' i ready is existence . He would ma ' ke p.m:piety the o nly qua, • - iiikeilon in the voters to. be added. • His owl% opielowiree U at the possession of property of the value of MC kinotet4 or MIL meeting, simile entitle a peso* to vote. He asked would the lemitaorgommone deny to Sootiand those rights ' to widols lbey were-entilloi by the principles of 414.4: mull. _,' . , Ultima t • Wer litiy deity It the right of Bendier members to P ee l l e awm wine ; Wire , lulnith end In fact th e e repeaserst, - . atites a ,a, sips body ot• eebsfildents. At peeeme.Seet. - ..- • • . lend was pieced, fp. e situation whiehdebermeidier remelt' , n .L elevehiknithostiVtlfilsgli , ballin,irosio4thainalineOf the .„, 1 ,, • ~. ~,, .;, ,P.Otars Wei t ill p,OO thatseimeily . fif mirsittieg .bechata h. full '' •i' '•Wrid wv:pethpipptiop of tbaiii,l.The fi rst refutation whirl - It vas 1 megrim to inosow . wici ral.lll/ a ataietarnN a ot fiats, to 41hIMIllitroanteresitetett no Cbjettlibn, but the • t. ' wit total epos the rideldelsodate into enneidentien gait aext Session, tirepropriety df 'rebinding the elective!'frie. ebbe% Semliki • tremwee, .he felt it necessary, twined% that tf any Moonier *4ll* suggest thy paati baler Wow., kited to anti. - tbiltill4tekl do would readily meet er• it. The Noble Lordldwitioale ailed by sieving his c esolutiesolt-- I 'reatlteppeartiiii totietitiolitiod copy of the (toll ofltnie bolder* of steep aeartfireSlitithind, as ism made sp. Uhl • before this Howie ih. duty: IMO: that tee tqtal nucebers o liev:. Ing a right to' tote, of ranee`, in all tirose counties tosethoe dld not ems od 1,1 1 6.0., 7 . . '.. ', , . ' 0. That ny the same rein* it 'spews, that the greatest number. ef persons Imeingebright to vote .o any one openly tied not exceed 340-salz. fir the county of Fife; and that . the trentrient ourebet„ - iii4 not exeeed'9—vii. for the r eon*" ..-orCromertr. : - • -- S. That It fortitee7Mipmes. from the same return, that the •., .persoin have. a Mobs* mkt is several cooties, sed.conee. ~,yipeutly that the eictilettilberof voten.for all the toentiesia . tieMbott is ehestderit e td o br i s than PAWL - .• - 4. That it flied* eft to this Ream that tit . right of voting, for 'street* Mt depeade. Sot on the pomeasioe., 'et thaeltettntaws slit* of a reel leader epode in goenty. tit onheleinglikreopesiorfte over such *state. which lupe. rhstlfy met he,. an hoguently Ik. disjoined from the pro per j; iiialitueli *Mot ell the peewee qualltled to Tote for • *maw* enemy; therleavitynot be one who is posspsw.lofe single mere of tend wisetaV whole fifte *suety. whiletbe the lend 'my belong to iaret . bir the property of persons who hive not a 'large vneaftwahe representative. 6. That this, House will early lathe next Session 4 Par , Dement, take intoltsniost serious consideration the stale of 4 , represeetaiton of wine* its Scotland, with a slew to effect some este:nil!' of the number of votes, and to establish some manettizn betvreenthe tight or voting end the landed pro perly of that country; •i- • ,' • %• , -..:- Mr. MAXW EL L, Iti ;fist tif toiteeond the motion, said tine: the people of 3c4:sitil, *ere 'dissatisfied with the present state of repsompiatioo in that country, and with mach reason.wben op, every application for redress to Parliament they feted .their prayers were not treated with that attention width they deserved'. A large por tion of the representativeset•Scotland were in the habit of suptinrting Ministers, addle was ready to give them every credit for the prtit ... ty of the motives by which they were influenced , bet be rod& lipf help saying that in that resolution, they exereisea,'.9oisi credulity thaw discretion. He was one of thole wito t trthe 'right' of appointing a l) • Mew , rto l'arliatneat,• , Ito confessed he was at once most willingl y ready fo re nquish that right. for the ge - • neral improvement of the state of r..presenta ion. What reason bid not the people* complainer the state of te. wesentation, when the taxes were so severe, that they al most denied the use c 4 wail, beadle's"; anti shoes to the poor.. I ffa ieptaiallialtn i a 'vac asaebt were to Deformed ~ . ,for any goo lor useful purpose, it ahauld be foutided'Opori . - a spit met.reptosentarloii a • * dicta' ttie.people would • have evidence, Otherwise' it would lie productive of no bA le fieLd results. He trusted Shut the House would come . to a decision favourable to Ills motion introduced by his "''Noble Friend. . • "• • . ,:. ~tr 0.4..:LE1tK s 3,Eiri elitisie could be Made in the state. of represeetaimi i n Rcelleedlio which property could have spore infittenie.thanAt,resent. No complaint wet made by the people agatrof thee saistiog system, and it ,van the one which has existoi onCe the . Coessitution wax esfablialied ; and•no o slit lewitle Lord intemlnd ,to try an experiment' in Seutland,.l4 subierting the laws as they now stood. The Noble Lord complained ttust the right of voting nos not seincieodyiattfoolied ta pr . operty V . - bot'ittweeilsO s the Case - io graithisal- though be admit ted the, absurdity in England' of nut alive:tog a man the , tielieof voting, who held's hoseolasiarge •preperty fir tri ur nine hundred and nivel-eine pare, while a man ' • who liAl a freehold of only'4N. fir o-lease of lives, pos.: messed that right. Every body to wheat the NOtle Lord tne r se . t to extend the franchise, virtually po ssessed it. at. present. Nu mode or edeZtion could be devised in which poverty would have more influingithin itiad at present Iv Scotland. The Noble Lord . simi,t) wish to lessen the influence of the aristocracy. but he contended thee the mode be proposed, so far from lessitnieg it, Would - tend rather to increase it. .If the Hoe* were willing to me- into the abstract question of Reform. and throw Open the ' franchise to al., then he should notobject to their extend . ing i• to Scotland; but *life sty woi•the ceitetioe, or. the • -rieht, he could not ii6iitte, any, alt ration • -in the present erten': Indeed the MAU Lord.biruself a Witted. that i•roperti eheial4. be the test, fun ttiongb ••• - • . .• he wished-that the qnshficeilo4l,iliceia.;be• toward, yet y a s, 4 lyd . • that '' - " - ..alepcad v- free, •, :.. 'l4 1 ~ ~ :• : •!, .6... ::-.: • ; , •40 4, . . whichltie„Nohle Frien d propOsiti. ' The Ron. Barone, faked ildlistere the evils of L eitichilrotlatol had to .elf FfilWrTfirreoMeitswer, a subseretencr to the hiirtister nhtlerdli elrehinstarices,intl atlhritittre to thepovernmene I mf Simi do!, too , that (internment what ittidglif.. ?heti iimeolmonot he frereliblders Of Scotland; id utter Want 6( .fanciest sensibility, aed he Minot recollect any otie id= *ante Ise which lt contest Was carried otarout , pOnclple. in the whole totontry. • • : • .-..• , • ..-7„ . • . ,°• r: , . • Mr. A, TWISSI opposed the •aistittriii,,:lffillitp : io pti likelsere of the Noble Lord not confined. hi'ley Ite pant df9litiiiif, bat teodi ng to effects• revehathforiti while ofleefireseitiationimkteptland. ..- • • -.•-•" - ' Bist.I.44ACINTOSH - expretasiol literegeet that h Om; tion of so much itaportaneias• this to the•people of scot— linithtfidiestexperleoce more^ enrollee in the House: - The Jinn. llatuuet (Sir EL . Clerk) hod token gait& an erroneous view of the subject. He had referred .to all those- old chortles which had .constroptly Meg 4 1, V 41 Itirtinnl every 'ittecopt at reform in the Scotch representation.. it was the ilielded opinion of ail the wise and good men who *Levee t Ih - that 'Hattie; tbit the 'count representation it ought to•ii ' atreidtittekedo' r A Etiont4:o ct of Jpropriers te / ifice hare* metals iiMehliteir . irelltiC • tasien,, *bet Mat WesliWirOso bring the - cusee.tn illisialltedpitifeaM lice it ihnitc, • - , of . the smaller proprietors was .isiteollifeZ ltbi• stroyeetZ . :;l,o' that country great numbers" were sec.uet who ,wsuld torsi •as excellent - . part of llter eoustimultit body.— FlaOlenwltoart. he would,say, as a reformer, that sta tions osgilt lo be of a more popular character even in Bog elned titan they were et present ;, bat. la Sentlaid • many of the olettore never. sew the persost. for. whom they voted. Sortie of pa voteri resided entirely, 091...0f . the oottotrpos if, weaM ask,• 'hien were to reSolituterld, an alteration 11-41 he cos/siltation -1 0f any Other state, could We say that Min 'ems a free constitution ; —whkh,.. to fat es Scothuld Was soncernetl,.did not atiotitthe elemehtt •apepolar re, ='canon. —(Hear, hear.) - But thee it wits said tbm nd war only a district of Oreat tritalli:erhere ro : pieserstation was in some parts- more popular than In others. lint where was there's district in which primula! represeittatiou was excluded altoother? It ttai unt ex. eluded evereinVornwall, that holy Ishii if boroughmon gers. • The Constitution of linghand was the only sato. ray width Scotland now had Mt geod geeMoteent. It was the same security itte it - there was no reprmentition at, all: Among the anteriens to hiti 'Nebltilryleud's mo tion, one reason given was that the liinfalle . which was its object-was not sought for by theptieple of Scotland.— Hat viten the Hill . for takitto, awa fOm Itteitable jurlsdic .llima istScotlaed mat intredieed into thitifousee kw's then.also said that the people of •Seethustittid not war pteio of . the &MAW system.. sot petition -Mr in: altera tion. His Noble Friend's Rill did not go liarlretigtit of depriving any individual of- the ehreflirfranchise; it !purported to proceed tiWthe.erperreteei et. We 'VOA tkosesitutism. The- very pAntipledf *Oil repreiefttation was laidlown in Scotland centorim •agw. It was laid do" n in more tlititiWaieheli elf - the : Veatch Parliament, 'if it • the Kerne:dative - and "'Hermit* 'meths Keret to -than: fivitipport ofttli propbsitiost, she Ititin..and loam. id illeeflensen ritettlgtotntes of 'the year 14R7, when, •in on Act of James - thbifictie of therewith:F, it was laid down that ewer . sidin. should have two wroe men corn ititielcided'io each 'Portioned; add mail is proportion to the extent of the shive.• 'The 'stair PrlaMple . was repeated in 1147, in an Act of Jules. the Sixth - .f.firothurs tint Flrithf Ragland? Again; 4a. the claim of rights,*arrtoil . theltHetunces perrekited lo William at 'the iteittlutiiii4 he representatfen of thelimpleia'Parthintettt forreed di. °of the urtieles. The Anteteentb - Akt of the first PaiN'o.. , ment of William and Mary in Scotland recited' thit;pre• ceding Statutes of Jansen t h e Mat, ititithi Articled of Orievances presented it the Revolution, .and saidthal each shire should send two Members' to Parliament, atid the larger shires more. That Statute - Othied twenty. six Representatives . to the larger counties. There *ore. before sixty-Bet Commissioners 'of shires and 'Astral* Bergesses in the Sctttcb Yarliainent. -To these the twenty-ex new ones were added, on the principle that the lieges, as they were termed, might have, stnort ettoil're; presentation In Parliament: The principle on' White his. Noble Friend proceeded was laid down see* - four eesttu- dee ago, and was frequently repeated afterwards. Tito grievances which his Noble Friend wished „to -remove weed the same which were the subjects of complaint at all former periods with the greatest of men test Scotland pro.. diked, and - among the rest with ,that greatest of men, whet would die for his country, be meant Fletcher . of Saltoun, who might be said to have been the hest of the Scots.' 'rho Hon. Baronet's allusion to the situation of Ireland was ty . no means en appropriate illOstration. 'the :Irma* In that country, with the names and forms - of men; 'init.. driven to the elections like cattle driven to the market. He and his friends objected to that nominal and fictitious "sing which brought Ireland to destruction. Thotigli bats& not for years lived in Scotland, be cadet nettle forget it; and . though he would make England the placeof.his sea/lance, and make its Constitution his study, her wsiohl ode cease his endeavour , * to bring the Cottititutiora of Scotland as:neer asfossible - to that of England. -He as at- awry to•bear it objected that the people of Scotiandwere not tit to reeeive • thettonstifution of England. while wo. erercreodeavottriaz . •to ettend lt.to all new -emancipated nations. • It Wes *trails which many great men laid down, sod which could not he' tornoidicted; that is proportloa to the -improsetneat of .i people io civilization, the more they werstto he- trusted with , political rights. Mr. Burke said that ilherty• was" not an . .evil to beStnited, but, a good to be loerease4 : As-leech II.; btrty;as gflovernment granted. io much Vieille wafiltirreda • a nation. Ile only asked for Scatilina a pirt of those blew blot which the experience of their anCestorf •disi veil to Leg land. • lie denied that the motion °ilia Noble Friend pledg. ed any one to support what was'indtestoodny Foramen- , tory ftefortooo *bleb he acknowledged hintielf a Listed.- -It wasdisingenstithrto argoe that the motion bed soy inch tendency. 41sEogIand there was popular election ;• In Scot land no popular elections existed. He whs.conyierieireitso it was not safe to **tranquillity, of the eTountry. to regime to Scotland ;nit lieges Whirl the English enjoyed. Ile heartily COnCirrini In the motion of his Noble Friend.. - ' .. Lima BlNNlNffsaiil be entered his protest Inisiost the. argumeut dial that present proposi:ion did not lead to p a di a ntem.erVitetortn. The Nobli Lord nr4e,ntade that , inotion,reputsfed over and over again that it was a pirt.of the pent Tastiest of Patilawautery Reform._ But his H.onourthhle and Learied Friend Dow said thatthe intro duction ore cbatvrne into Scotland--:-a greater change ere° than onieersal su ffrage—had nothing folio. witia Parlia mentary Reform. Was there nothing like Reform tu * proposition to alter the whole ancient systems( Wpm sentatitot in Scotland. He appealed to any Englishstien. . Osman iu the Hutto acquainted withScotiandt.tu testify ' that it was a free country. Ti,. Noble Lord 'cited the published opinions of a writer *hoc stated- that wh r the Representatives of the peir s dit:etioyed 1 1 freedom of speech in Pariiitnent, ana'oinepto their discus ions were allowed the greatest pubrialityjn vie!: A c o untry freedom could not he extinguished. ft . the Isoqteit believed 'chit they sere labouring under any ifirtanCeg . Ley hairs soon let ebb HO s aFII know it. - litt' t the denied she eivancesterated had any exietteee. The biebte , were not borne out by one petition, nor frowSeotland. lie would cot raiment . &Ad& tepreseetatiou for the pur e were voles at the electiont. -' . II' . the I nge eouramsd to the owner's o f 'ital Ober wield beiviy.liolitod.. 14 reason , was, ghat passel who heel no Property in es aftweed, seder tbt .existingostini c s. ceitsatied that that practice dad sot exist. , cut/ :toa ;.; L of UriPon 'less. opootod to any eroii :7-Tut tA.R.Y" - -.l.'w.airscr...raze.aam., .1 rvr.a...2%. ; r t .T r ........n . " -- . --; oru ha d stated in his resolutions Scot l and had not. more than 2,lool)proprietoicei land,: That ;night wear 't verirlintited number ; !Mt in Scotland so Men, tilIN .oquivaleet to an .enormons nomber. iii England. 'ln Scotland a man shocrld possess a large tract of lattd to 'make him worth 100/.4 year. The subfeadatiOns were 'tiny, the land parsing , throtigh nide pr ten . persollt 4, 4 ad votes at eleoliCits„ Tite Act of Union was decisive , jp, this point; and tt . was the doty of the House to re- Atari 4, ....The peoplemf Scotland bad made no represen "Sion eau the stabjegtt load therefore the Hann had no right to inetitutcomg psomeding upon it. • • - Mr: J. P:ORA - Ji ilmalotained that it was isopenthietban re..weary like Scotland footslog a part of MI, Kiitedila ,armlet be shut out from the eajoymeist of the tibectralid lloolialtationot Um whops Klngdom. in 000mmareee . tif arty jakictes itipulattou• la. the de of Unbolt. ily the pilot 747. oaths &e.t.a a popular, represeMetionwde o w e /, 6. I. Scotland; because there was -seemly any *s bensteen.the . highersod-loworfordort of the. perple..whieh , lsadse happy so effem•in Eagleson r•Wheedig general eleesio• mutiny moat asimatlng acme Metwould Ike eatterisat. nut le-iikiatland so part of the people took itii Jaast. interest itt ear...Wien; and thus the chain that elm• anted all orders in England was .eatirelyisseken. if the. 'laws were well adMinlateted In Scotland, it was owing Wks Conant:ion with Begland. which was a nee-mootry. • ,- • The 4.OED ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND Said fharri.' presentation in Scotland was founded Mt property ;•-tinit the I ptePhoWeroemisded with it, and that the House ought seta ss force' my - miw'system -down their throats. Theaystebee waesettledlity the- Articles of the Union, end ought ntittail be altered, any more than the religion of Scotland, which was at then"' Ohio declared to be unalterable, He main tained that whets the Par lament was not about to change the representation of regisnd, it ought not to attempts/iv 'change In that of Scotland ; not One ineatittant of which Celeste) , bed lent a petition In hyoid of such change of re. .presentation:' A 6460417 the people of Scotland were riot soatessid or se blind' to' their own Interests, as not to till Mr sue% 1 measure; if the 'necessity of the am reqtatiily. tt gentlemen !iota, fifth.' salami, laws that existed in Sect • land 10 regard to religion, tope maintenance, of the poor._ to Insolvettfdebders. he., th ey would perceive that the4letrel pie of that country were folly 'MAD'e to tbeleseern interests. , If this motion was carried:lf would he looted wn as a pm- I liminary io -a general •Perliantatotry Reform' ell over the' Kingdom, and for *it those reasons he World oppose it. .. Loud I.lll,T,Qaamideild thicias. e iistetioe_toter eating to thie,vlr,quile da d in esagipe, • Tile counties of Scotland were cordite . o prehendinx their right.* and the privilges of. Hip;Mvotim freac4lsei as wick as the correspondir% ranks.ef people in Englanda - 41 to this question bring agitated to .England in. cask of ate being ioneeded,,sa*qthina, such a thing did. SO. fol low,- for the reformaingiti take place in Scotlaad...Witb out (win 'atterdretkiw, SAS . country. Out , yet he ;ill jentleil, that .11a4 as an Eiglish question. in w 1 11 1 eery? Baglisbuggs wits),Sterlord. As to Itelmul, tla was no analogy between the state of refirmentatiq thug and IA EOglafol..becattse tbere. vros 'soma's thauo as, a .popular represeatatioa there iu ,thq.sollen, lt . we* taken in England.. • • . - - -.11 . 'a. 1,g1.• . I ' • Lord (iLENIaRCHY' said altipilaooratitioalluald wanted not to be governed by it MR - Igllt'iwitivw ti Sind **dogma reprebentatio*, somewhat similar so •• tillar.mtg .ixteel is• the eonaties of Rogload I amt . ha maistainad ohm 'none of the difficulties that had .bactsi stated MSc night by Hori. Members opposite, ought to impede alseinquiry.thenoweved - fori. • .. , • . . ~ , . • Lord A. HAMILTON *Me is map' He coatanded that numerous petitions it'od formerly come from Scot -hind- in fatigue of reform; mod that "witie disregard; t -hi o ed. But he woold ask the , Learned ' rd Opposite. if nu nerous petitieni did come to the disuse. whether lfd Monk' change his opioion, and vote fistlrefurin is Salti 41 land ? • :- .11'lle House then divided: For ilmatotioi, 117 ; hi the previous' question, 452; Majority against the ton lion, Si. , •,...,,,,, - 7 : -, •'. Tim; antamtateement of the large minority was 're: Mae& with loud *beers. • • - Oa. the second Resolution bring read from the Clair, • lard . MILTON said, that though ,the: Regulation gradd sot be themearriet, be hoped it would be circu lated largely,. and make a strong Impression in the country. It world hav* -*beam( of showing to the people of Scotland that their caul* was not hopeless, ailvd that they might look - fur .its early and fed( succesi.4 - (Hear. hear!) . • ~ 1 , I . • Sir J. Sellttlhdir said he regrered that he was at fortunately locked oat during the division, bet be wish ed to declare that he would be unworthy • of a seat in that House if he would nut have voted with the minority; 1 which he•was hippy to see so large. - Mr. WILLIAMS, , in the absent* of the Hon; Baronet, thtexilleastrer for Westminster, gave splice that The- Mon. Baronet, on raids, the 12th of. this smooth, intended to bring forward a motion, respecdag the Enquiry into , the conduct of the Sheriff of Dublin. . .•• • " SALE OF GAME: - .. ' Lord CRANBOURN . rose to move themed#ll (14414 of the Bill to legalize the *ale of ( l ame. - ••• . '''Mr. tl. SUMNER suid . it was too late to'gh into dis emotion on this Bill. lithe Noble Lord'did.iii into the discussion, be . shouldfiet it his deity to mol e the'ROllle do adjourn.—cA cry of "'No, no; go on.") - . ' Lord CIiAA BOURN said lie felt that he hadtba Ole of the !loom with 'bid'', and lie should go on. ' 4" • Mr. H. SUMNER said be did not wish OS Interinift other bisineie,brit be cbtild not consent to discuss:llDi Game Bill atthat tite.heim - ' 'Mr. 11„ BENNEe said ,he bad never found the Ron. Member for lurrey:,objei•l to the lateness of the hour, when the public money was to be voted. . The House then divided— . . For the second reading . of the Bill. 201—Against it, 38—Majority 170. . On re-entering the gallery we found Lord CHAN BOUlt N on his legs, itippoeting the Bill before the House, hut in so low a tone of -voice as to be generally inaudible.. .The details of the measure, his Lordship s rid, would be better discussed in the Commit tee, and reepieting them he should reserve himself till that time arrived. •Against-the principle of the Bill lie Was not aware that many objections could be made. His Lordship 'then referred to sotAr evidence Iti'en by per 'sons who 'sold ganeti from which' it appeated that one tradesman. in twelveiletiths, bad sold 22.492 head of game, and that ,id alt ildentan b a d bought from him 504 bead. . Sir JOHN SHELLEY rose to object to the Bill. If it were to pass crime Would be leer eeee d, and-tistue an , 'nihilatesl.—Nothiog in hie Opinion 'would tend. More. to .den t oralize the people thatt.the adoption of such a me..- sure. ' nee statements made- by trotiesnien lielielieved to be exaggerated. If the sale of (lame were increased by legalising it; so: would: the number of poachers.e could not appror*of a hive which went to alter the 'good H old habits of the country. and iudpce Gentlemen to tell that fora paltry roosideratiort its money, which. as it was now disposed of, gave : eqnal gratification to the donor nod the receiver, Tiwoinessure would also increase toe number of poachers by taking, of the odium which at , tathed. to them ; for Mimi il.sras lawful to sell' (lame, farwers' sons, and other persons would opt 'scruple' t . • - ' . .- 1 " •*Al' . ' • - - tit tint view. 1 4f tie s.sle of -,ne ovcre t %yenta prevent any boa very brie prat ,ing preserves. Ile looked np . nu the (Idol spul , s mil as part of the political ttointi•otian s e f the The Ifonontralole Baronet sal i, he should con moving. as an we nin e " That the tti I a second time on the hit of next Septeinber.- --) 4 4)131.1*.sacandedilite.Ameodment oft' e sonourable Baronet (S 4 r John Shelley.) The pres. t e his opinion would increase the number of poa e ; e6sn•therr were idle Mil tobe'found in llaeb porlilsietibe.gouistay.. • He insisted strongly on obs pokey of imatouragiott eonntry . gontlemen to live on thee . • tesillytoreasting to, the antosements• to whirl: Ithey,SWlS adetttiOliad; • eg tttlewle Wont! It .ett* flpoplissa , Of destroying stitsergeMli, thefrehro., Mak the IIIH open Dm( tlottlith he wa s %e n. ling le isoty corttictitni Of tildflattle Liws in any salothTY way • !gr. ithjectesi to the Bill. which, if pass e d into a ttut, troghl s , as he contended; confine the pe.. session of - pow to persons occupying large tracts of county. Mr. Z. potltit maintained that the increase of crime, whUli It might tour the great object of the Le giaTiture solintinith, was owing tothe increase of game, and to the iniserable pittance allowed to labourers. it was unfair,he thought, that shopkeepers and tesi s eet a bi e .tradesmen who lad the pecuniary means, sh on ld not imet the legaltielit if regaling their friends npon game ae,-wykl • 4s the pritp deters if land. ff t.. agx•za,,,i „pc, s .,tha t the stat e o f soc i ety indwodergesse a .eeneislitahle change since the enact ment of thisliterarLowe o silltioh reader their pr esent sere rity were not only obaoltpos its themselves, hot disgrace. fur to the coontty, tapadestruetive of be marals of the leaver ... •7 - • . Mr. 6ROUDHAIIt . concerned In the abhorrence ex pressed against the •system anti principle of the Hanle Law& tie would agree to ache thing calculated to • • counteract oc mitigate its effects, as tending to the pre ' doction and tnaltiplielet ion of crime. Bat here w as a specific measure . proposed for hie adoption, and he was bound in the first instance to see whether or not it was likely to produce the effects. that were expected from it. When be looked at the Nip' hle Lord's Bill, he saw no : thing to entitle it ekes .to the lostieht of a doubt in Lis ' mind whether he should support At or trot {hear, hear) Did Gentlemen knew what they watithilont to do? Were they .abont to •alselish the Osage Laws? No such thing ; they were about to establish the warst.perts of that sys. ten; (near, beer He would 14140 what blindfold they were latent to give their soppOrt . .tia.- 7 0.ne of the prominent objections tOthe thatue . f fr ani as they stood at present was. that they Otte the "aOnt:Petlf to th e , lord's, and thit Hill "went t0. p ra5?0r.,42? . 1 monopoly; nay, it went to ikeretiseit s Airattcir ing thietfill the Land hit& .lytteitalse the Only gametnerehants. Then with pupal to •filagistrates; be would auk, were they td., mach divested of .potter at present? Were Jtistices of Peace too dedcient in patronage? Unhappily he knew the contrary to be , the ease. In the very article of licensing ale-hooaea they bed a patronage ant a very ex tensive oheesti that titer Of bili.ohjen:was was levelld against that increase of liatrohege whinhalle Hill went directly to establishh Under its reigelartiorts no sum conld hair a Single head of game withoat being lieetisiii by the Megistrate art tbePetty Sessions, and they went to . make gams private 'property altogether. If a law had bees proposed to consider that man.ar master of the game upon whose ground they were bred and fed, Omagh the measure might be liable to Objectlens, still it would not be, like the naonsure now before the House,"incon siMent filth itself. If the Hill now .hetore. the Hou..• were carried into a law, it Would extend- the monopoly of the lendlerd anti. ths Pitc°ol4e.,of. 44141 c" of Peace; he aluitilti therefore object to it as bring isdically fective and contrary to all right principles of legislation s theeigh he deprecated the 'present systeht ote tht Game Laws ith Much es any Moo. . g...WORTLEI expressed himself, anxious this some classomaahould be made inure Dame Laws, the first step to which Woe to legalise the selling : of game. Yo man could doebt‘loist that_ the markets were abundantly supplied at present, sod the effect of the existing law ass tolheame that supply into the hands el poachers. Ile did not mean to contend that poaching would he put as end to by the measure before the House, or by any trea sure that cos . /W.lm devised ; bot it was reasonable to es. pect that, as the risk increased and the temptation dim,. nashed.posebing would diminish also. All to the quali fication. to kill atones the sooner it waaplaced upon the same sys'eas which pt./veiled islicotlead the better for the country at large. - Mr. PEEL - said he was attadvorate for the measure, though ise.wotolol allowthar: be woe originally prepos sessed against it. The Bili did not give magistrates the power of licensing the buyers of game,. with a view to increase their paronagu, but beeeuse (mild not bestow the power elsewhere, with the slim, advantage to the public. The introduction ofthe legal proprietor into the market, would pro lento have the effeet of preventing th e illegaliale oaf game. Fortheis reasons be should sup• port the 11111; pot •as the best torossee that could b e tie. sued, . butbecauee it went some way:towards correcting the defects of the presentayateon..: Mr. TENNYSON snpp.wted- the Amendment, bet the noise' ill dm House rendered • him inaudible in the Hillery. • • Sir T. D.' ACIAND arfildst land eri• s d— s• Qorstron."- • He entre;std his Honourable and Learned Friend (.tlr. Brougham), the want of whose support upon 1 this moraine he most sincerely regretted, not to oploes• the measure in its present stage ; let the Bill go to Ottamittee, and if it . distrtot then got far enough, its he meets inightteject it.-;—(Questiop, question.) The `,Xtsting Imes were' to had tilt; no man conld sepprt their continuance for another I ivetreniontb, without ete• ing his sanction to the climes and bloodshed which were now so prevalent.—(lfeer, hear.) Lord CItANBOIJRN shortly replied, and thelloste divided—Por the Second Reading, 22—Against it, 611-- Majority in favour of the Second Heading, 22. The Bill was ordered to be comusiiboi tomorrow (th is day). •,• ' The Other Orders of the !lay were sOspossed if , sad thl House adjourned at half-past two this merging. The most protnident trait of beset) , in either Sat, is s Fine Heed of Heir, which is easily produced by the weir derful powers of Row LIND . ' ItIACASSL.OIL, Tosorigissi and genuine—which possesses inclusive energetic prop*. ties In nourishing the Hair, preventing its faUtug of, or turniag &fray in cases of Sickness, Alarm, Fright, Stud+, Accauchements. &c.—preserves it .a.e the latest period it li:lo—promoter a luxuriant fro..ste• on: the baldest pima, ds strength pp. the roots;. produce* Strong Curls, iMp.wewthei or elercine minuet affect; residers hair that is red 4ryas soft as silk. glossy; elegant and beantiful. This Oil is insaluniste in the Nursery ; as a due attention to Childrett's ilair, is of the resident importance. It eradlcitts the Scurf easy cut pleas rot, and makes the Hair firm st ths Hoots, and Sixes a stamina for a beautiful Had of Bair. Produces Welskers, Eyebrows, Ere. This Oil has bass for "sane Yell re universally sdnsired and ecknowiedtod stltol* to allastiour. and by its inestimable virtues. is daily Idoi"m r ; od *lliAlas sanction. of Royalty, the Nobility, Gentry, ay Public, at large.—The sole Proprietors have just supplied their Aseels, in Town and Cnuntry, with a satiable qua City. Alto their Esizsrcit or Tv tie, for changing Red el Oreritair to Black or Brown. • The Goaaio. la Signed A. Rowland & SA r ' • ' t ,, hav-erd not deny, t at La oast% .4epead upoo a free, b e er out do aeon let te is The Noble; Lord tallmdiokttetulla of thOrssent ttija• arc efevances.an . ' r e pre s e ntation is Scotlindifitsvhe monk( islehith *was Lord's sialinsents net -• • there any country in wltols 'cranes* sad •hapyiness,were. by a sigh vo i c e Iron -.. more widely diffused? Whittitfoiger illitstralion.itoold yu unseOle - lltelv bole be s iren : of thgii _tise,statn of Ireland? There poie'of a4litnlFa few • fe . •‘ the ele ct ive frasebise 4 wan riiovria4elf,..i.istends4 but muter it Scotland we did ietend to Joel:F t :Saw One • COle evils of p r opettyoisit irunibre. ,4 • - eshirgisk the ft helefecorott" lan ae• forth, momare sess l i of the of _Be aid enn atry * era a m •Al kw the Noble Lord bd.; these l eee; bee be woo . , • • • i , .. 7 ... --• t+ .. .• -. • -, - • ..,. •- •• : • . ',.. -:- - - ' - t , .. r. • . . .;MAN ....:;*-.1. ,-- -st. • ...- --, ••• - . , • . •• - • •-•• • -- .......... _ hir t :Pella 4 i o hop *gar tly red flrth t .7... were, th t e r Nob t le v l o ta(t e la A m :: l e i : , lil i e z i: mt ic i t t tl , l ki .t . ir a 17 I I" !t . . i ., Lind. r b i nt g of these, e 'Ott t° "i" Ite'Tit - h I .rt • e ouldeut c lo t 1 . e .fa merit, and as to or ig Bakr of En giem say g, . he onl Mt tuoyithet-ot r 0 rrsl t i tit .. ' ""etrt• ',E ( l° 3l rePtr 3 en, at i° ...__ n • g e_....... we. 1.- e e r i r el. ' Day, as the Noltle Lord might wish to Rot hie first reso- Princi ple on which th_gato..stesceltettl.ctigceagaauct the i lode by t 2464•• ••;iimpiimpasierimvir* -rya: ,„..th- t i o t i k too t t o ntkirettri-trattitothltrrtb-dtritttrtilrtmleff- he tread a the last resoltittaa, be wonial snore thellrelyions.giteatiott otenpad Apratipik okthat flgetiro tganchise. The Noble (la 'telling, He denied that'ithi ftiiinter In The tenurelif pe o pe t ty tif TroiXs &Minn would lead to the introduction of the whole l o am .. .. .. •4 V. . • • 1 ;,d.. 1;* 'OPi- • , ,~ ~. • `a . t i.