The National Register. — London, England, 1819-11-29 00:00:00

TOY. #9 aotliorities. As to the redrew talked of. what redress could be elk:Amine i by a multitude again t a bench of magistrates; and wnere was any coon maaVusig The olwr-ea.!ing against Mr. Hunt was regarding what took place tefore the meeting; for n list took place afterwards, where were the signs that it cos. desimus to give redress. The Prince liegent's Letter 'a Thanks was must injudicious; it made the ministers and ina gietrates parties to the quesdon, and all of them were interested in resisting inquiry. But inquiry lutist conic, and to the confu sion of many of those who now defended the Manchester magna. ogee. Then, to unite 411 parties*, Caine the dismissal of Lord Yitzwilliaitl—a man In whose case the whole country sympa thized. That Noble Lehi had been the main stay of Atluirms tion,and hisLorelehip had preserved the tranquillity of Yorkshire; and the return lot such services was the removal of Lord Fitz william. Ile wished to know why Mr. Hunt had not been arrested the day before the meeting, if it was thought necessary to arrest him at all. Precisely the same thing was done in London in the case of a Mr. Harrison, who was taken in Smithfield. and though troops were not employed upon that oc casion, they were in mediums to act. lie dad not know why London should be put in such hazard. Mr. Harrison was, however. taken quietly !, but why tile metropolis should be put in connwstion, because at was judged expedient to take a man at it o'clock uit one t'ay, who might have been taken at 12 o'clock the day berme, was for the &iv leers of such a poxes:Mugu, deter • mine. These were the reasons lie had or refusing to peafe reli ance in the conduct of ministers. and tot opposing any immediate measure tending to the increase of nilitary force. The miliusry powers of the country had not been in one instance overcome. A necessity fur addiug to them might perhaps exist; but till a full explanation of all these objections took place. till it was strewn that minister. had properly usetl the means they possessed, he coul ; not Mink of augmenting the military force. lie considered that there was much apprehension in the country of an attack upon the liberty of the subject, and that the attack was exempt'. fled in the numerous attempts to provoke the people to tumult. The Constitution was at stake in the debate of that night (II ear. hear). Ills design was not to speak, except in general terms, of the Manchester calamities, but he denounced alto .her the prin. ciple of attempting to preserve the country by 'Mihaly law, or any other system of coercion. If such a i»etliod was adoptial, there could be no use in raising a titan's head in that House upon the subje. t of liberty. for from that moment the people would be at tie mercy of Ministers; and that line of separation which lad been always deeded would be drawn, the line of separation between the higher and lower orders—Olear. lour). Be hoped those in power would take warning from the Revolt.- don in France. By timely and discreet measure. that Heroin. non might have been avoided; but nothing being done towards conciliation, the contrary was the case, and all milers of society were noted in indiscriminate confusion. which ended in general destruction—Wear). lie dal not believe that the persons termed Radicals were at all to be feared ; but there was a large popula. tion, which was deeply attentive to die conduct of that House, and not at all well du, osed towards it, in consequence of what it had dune. 'float population it would IN dangerous to irritate to a higlwr degree el disgust. It Ministers would spew a willingness to make the necessary enquiry, he shwild stand by them ; but while he was determined to uphold the laws. he was equally resolute in maintaining their righta--(llear, hear). The Bight Hen. Cientkinan concluded with moving an Amendment expressive of the regret telt by the House at the proceedings at Manclawner, and declaring the necessity of making an en. quiry, The Marquis of TAVISTOCK seconded die Amendment. After ham.; made some general observations upon the perils with which lie conceived the country to be surrounded, he advert ed to the IVlaticlieser proceedings. He culled for a calm and patient investigation into the circumstances attending that event, and disclaimed all idea of any other object in view than truth and justice, and the people's happiness.—O(ear. hear !) He was nut thsposul to question the motives of Ministers, as to their genensi conduct, but he could nut view without surprise the iiisnossal of a Noble Lord who had the boldness to oppose the ptinciples which seeined to actuate those who dispersed the Meeting, and who had before detected, and exposed the system of spies, (hear, hear,) anti commanded the respect and approbation of the pub lia—That there were circumstances of danger attendant upon large public meetings he was ready to admit, but prod, should he g yen of the necessity of calling in the military, before ssch, an extremity was resorted to. When Ministers (tad gone so tar as not to he able to carry on the Government without the assist• once of the bayonet, they has ii.decd much to answer fur..(l!ear. hear.) It mold not but be acknowledged that there existed bnt little sympathy beta ten die Parbanicia and die people. Concilia tion was Lodi ten -ably necessary; the burthens of the people should be light, ned. If the Chancellor of the Exchequer Caine down to the House with a renewal of the Property Tax, he Olie Noble Lord) shotild agree with trial upon this condition—that the taxes upon the poor soould undergo a proportionate diminution. that the public should no longer be insulted by large grants of the public money i nproperly made, and that all useless places shod.: be abolished. Then. anal not tili torn, woual he vote Mr the pro• petty tax. Tee Meech that now existed might be yet repaired, it the people stele not driven to des, air. A step to ivatelsitefunn, above all thiags, was necessary. lie was not prepared to say what specific Befoul' would be adviseable. but lie wasoonvinced, that so long as that House remained as it was, the people would not, ant: ou,;lit net to he auistiaL ‘( II oar, hear.) Hints nail been frequently thrown out against the loyalty of the people— could any one doubt that loyalty, atter an expewive war, during which they hail endured taxation patiently. Lie would venture to say, that if weals of aniipassion were used in Scs place of the iasulting language to which they were accustomed, thoueands. whom Government thought their enemies, and treated, with hatshmi.s, would be completely disarmed. The Node l.ord concluded with again nvoinnietuling. in the strongest manner. that an enquiry would be entered upon ; and above all, that the. people should not be treated with derision and contempt. Lord t:ANS 1.a•.1t1..At.11 114 1.0 u l y.usr the lie admitted ma .It len. were sow ;Aired in a most :to fu' teepowibillty, particularly as re ended Ille 1111111 N Well • it was WWI expedient al an occusiou of ackhowled..ee dateAer to purs u e. Under She impies ' that the punkt aafirty would het hiked ny delay, they had conic 10 11 defrr suituttion to lay trumediaiels before Pailinment the Station in tv loch it uses their intention Is propose men sures for the presei sad ))))) of the litlll.le could IBA at She same time hip denying, stun fie most un qualified terms. that the co.& twice of the pimple in Pasha ineut hail diminished. lie was convinced that Valliant. , " had iwied wits such anxious desire to broilt the by that flies were üblc and resolved to inert dillicuhie• at hums as well 10 abroad, Shill less doubi than ever distr.(' semi s' of general approbat lam—Thee s was seoliely a senate measure pursu ed I .iy 2a...honcho in hick the public had not joined, tool SO far was Ilk. d Dose snider toe effisireid of the Public, that no Admioidrat too could cyst n ithout its posit eve alit unequivot . .il sasteth , n. '1 here %rue, lea his opinion, .(round , for carry 'l4 the nineollasiesit to the foul of the Throne, MI( Ilia he ever hem it speech less qualified to make nu impressi iiii sit the nrces• •sity of mutton.. stic a an addition Its the its it i taseil Address di was, in fat t. a Not. eh made for the purpose of it -decree Nine die dial sauul f the timid ry. . Up the question of the state of the country us should not uuw ruler, as he conceived it necessary to lay before tae House all the anfor - on:Ilion Government hail trefised upon the subject, before it chamois,' should be entered upon. As ono its the papers wbtitb 'odd be au readiness to-morrow) were read, be VHF, NATIONAL RtdISTEn. should propose Ineasuie4 for their adoption. Ile then entered into a defence of the cioiduct of the Manchester Ilagists ales. Ile statA that they had no idea of arresting hunt until hr was seen in the moist of the multitude, with the btoners of u treasonable character thing about Lint. It nus n f..lse view of the question to say that a crowd, con sistoig sit Melt, nomru and ehild.vis, was ordeeed to lie at tacked. It aas net er in the coilicnitil ition of the Migis- Hates that the Meeting should be diliersed in that way, and hiose who .ettl ilouted a sanguinary doposition to Car ‘i i s trate, a rte inhuman for doing so without the sl gate , t sein iiht of esi.:ence. The Noble Lord here ridiculed the reit sure thio•sn ninon the Yrion,tnry by Mr. Tierney, DM) tou fainter occipital's, used to say, that the liberties of the people could not be 11111 acr custody than in 1h..l of such a body. Ile contended that the Nlogistiates would have been guilty in the eye of the At a, if they had suffered the meeting to go on u ter the caption of Hunt bad been 'greeted, that toe, had dell.' Mined to ellict the dispers•sin tti.h ais little injury to the individuals as possib e, and that all the forms with respect to the reading of the Riot Act had toren strictly complied st oh. It so mold tint, he and, be too chasitoble to lalieve, that those whn had commenced so untold einatinue to act in the same did ; but I'D assault svao. coanoneitcood 1.1 - dl/11 Ili, part sit 111, ltitutls ul the misters, Duct the assail.ails were iirovided with st s and arms snipe hostile sirs' rip . Mr. Bondy Wilbraham (a Lancashire Magistrate), Mr. Stuart Wordy, Alr. Plunkett, the Attorney General, Mr. Wilberforce, supported tlt. original Address; and Mr. Ceke, Lord Milton, Sir .lances Mackintosh, and Mr. Scarlett the Amenthitent.—At 3 o'clock an tuljournment toWednesday was moved, and after a long debate on the plopricty of such a 'notion, was earria— Adjourned at half past three. ' WEDNESDAY. NOV. 24. DISTURBED DISTRICTS. Lorn CASTLEREAGH presented copies of a letter from the Manehester Magistrates. dated July 1 ; of a letter, enclosing resolutious„ front Warrington, kc. Ordered to be printed, his Lordship adding, that they would be ready in about an hour 'lite Noble Lo-d then submitted the usual sessional 'notions for Committees ofinstiee. &c. Resolutions against the interterince of Peers in Election., the p;escnce of strangers, ke, which were severally agreed to. - AODNI:sB TO THE PRINCE urGENT Lord cAsTl.EitEAcat moved the order of the day for re suming the adjourned debateon the Address to the Prince Regent —Agreed to. Lord CASTLERFAGii said that last uight he had repelled assertion by assertion ; that he hail submitted that tit opportu nities fur enquiry had arrived ; and that the a.tack on the Meet-, ing was justifiable, as being in self defence. The orders were given by the Aagistrates. who - viewed the proceedings from a window, who saw the jeopardy which•sannundtd the Yeomanry, and who directed the proceedings of t!te Cheshire Yeomanry to re,cue the Manchester Yeomanry.•(llvar !) Toe locuments were no; nitwit as the justification of the Magistrates, but as eluci dating their proceedings; and he oontentiut that they warranted the steps which bad been adopted by the magistrates. (flyer.) Lord TEMPLE said, that a case was made out which called for strong measures ; that without such measures' there was no ch nce of security; and that he therefore should 0.1111441 y support the Addre•s. . . Mr. BENNETT declared. the' he had made all possible enquiry into the proceeding- of the 1.411 Si‘teCIIIII; that he had read the evidence adduces! on the biquest ; and that he thought nothing could be more injurious to the character of that House, than to charge the thOIIIMILIS assembled at Manchester with having no other object then this. of plunder. Those persons were hot the first to attack ; they were attacked. Tate Ministers' statements were contradicted on oath; that alone was ground for enquiry. But there were other stronger grounds—eight or nine per,ons had lost their lives, and between three and four hundred had bean wounded and maimed. Their names and cases were all known, and the list would be in London in a day or two.' Not only were these circumstances enough to arouse the country, but there aiso were the libel, that had Mice issued from the Go vernment press. (Hear, hear.) They hail disgusted even the friends of Mmisters. But the evidence of the witnesses on the part of tine Frown adduced at the Inquest, would alone justify him fur calling for enquiry. Much nt . cn i f had resulte d from the want of command which chatactir;sed the Yeomanry. As to the publications which had 14sued from the cheap press, and which doubtless hail done much mischief, he hint not !mined that irreligious doctrines were inculcated in the manufacturing districts. Ile had many of the Primers of the Union Schools, the Schools for the poor, and paid by the poor; and they taught duties to God and man ; they generally commenced with a hymn, and they inculcieed r liphtat and worship. And as to the Ad dress, he did not know how he could support what he hated so cordially. (Hear.) If such Address were carried, on his conscience he believed it would be more injurious to the repose of the country than any thing that had textured. ( Hear, hear.) Mr. B. WILBRA HA NI explained. The lion. Member had an advantage over him, in having raided at Manchester for days and weeks. Mr. BENNETT.— .. I was not in Mnnchester 24 hours." (Hear, hear.) Mr. C. 111IYDGES, justified the disper.inn of the Manchester forting, and contended, that the Magistrates would have incur- red a tearful responsibility had they not dipersell a i‘leeting su improperly so alannin:4ly collected. sir W. DE CIIISPIGNY maintained that the wanton bar barity of the attack of sn armed force on an unarmed multitude called imperiously fur enquiry. Had not many important facts come to !mown personal knowledge, such fact alone would W:11. rant him in claiming, on the part of the country, the amplest enquiry. Lord Nugant, Sir Francis Burdett, Mr. Bmugham, Re. supported the amendment. Mr. Wynn. - Sir .1. Sebright, Mr. Canning. &c. the Address, and alley a debate which lasted till past Five o'clock on Thurs day morning, thcliouse divided, when the numbers were— _ . _ For the Admendment 150 Against it 3MI 51ajority against it YSI The :\ th!ress in its original form wail then carried, and the Douse adjournul. TIII•RsDAY. NOVF.MBER 25. At four o'clock .ac 5111:.\KVItcounteidieliotple, and there being only thirty-eight Members present, the House adjourned. riiitiA‘. NOV. 5.6. A new wtit was ordered for Cambridge, iu the room of Gene ral Finch. who has taken the Chiltern hundreds. Mr, BENNET said, that he wi had to correct an error in his speech on Wednesday night. as inserted in the MormiNg Chron icle. It was there stated, us it Captain Ilkley had neglected his duty in not advancing with the yeomanry cavalry. in order to check their attacks upon t e populace. -Ile had made no such representation ; and he was the more anxious to set himself right. because lie could conceive nothing more painful to an in divi.saial than to have it supisisoil that lie hail neglected his duty on such an limas: art. All he had heard 14 Captain Ilirley con• yinced him tnat lie was a man of humanity, and while fie did his duty. would take care to do DO wore. The nniment he saw the mistake, lieu role to J friend at Manchester. mentioning that lie hail made no such charge. lie had often had occasion to say things paint& to private fee!ings : rind an on this occasion it was totally destitute of fourulation, he thought it right to dcchtm.it COMMITTEE ON THE. TRANSACTIONS AT PIANC/IT!TRII. Lord A union!' said, that as the Noble Lord opposite :awl given notice of his intention to call the attention of the Home :u the papers before it on the state of the country, he wished to know whether is wt.a putpose to naive thst they should be referred to a committee, with power to send roe • persons, papers, and records, and gencra:ly to itivestizate tha subject. Lord CASTI.ERII.GII answered, that lie had stated on $ former night, or meant to have Stated. tut it was not the inten tion of Government to refer those papers to any Comnmittee; tl e measures intended to be submitted would rest on the notoriety of the circimisainees connected with the internal stateof the country , and on the information contained in the papers upon the table.— Ilia Lordship added, that in consequence of the Hems not having yesterday deliberated upon the report of the whitest, and Si some debate would probably take !Owe upon it, he t!tougl t is more expedient to !immune until Monday, opening to the llouse the view he should take of the papers, and time measure* he should propose. Lord AI:11101W then gave notice, that on Tuesday ha would submit • motion, with the precise words of w hirlt he was not prepared. which would have fur its object the ri•' . .rritig or' the papers upon the table to a select Cuinatittee.— (Cheers.) ARAMPOVND, Lord .1011 N 111TSS1?IZOh...rseti„that it was his intention on a future clay Cruet:fay, licit December) to propose remote reNolutions raitiog to the case of the borough of Gruripoond, wing radar tortilla titan Most: he had brought abrwaro to OA last tii,i.tun. REPORT ON 1 RE ADDRESS. Mr. S. COCKS brought up the report on the Address to tha Prince Regent, which was read, and on the question that it bs agreed to, Sir Hubert Wilson and Mr. G Lamb each spat: at consider able length in favour of COT inquiry. They were opposed by Mr. Bootle Wilbraham, after whom _____ . . . Mr. DENMAN ruse and said, as a challenge had bee* thrown out to all those gentlemen who were connected with the legal.prlfession, cal.ing on them to state their stollen. nos on the subject of the meeting at Nl,,neliester, he felt it a duty which he owed to hiinself--a duty which he cools! not pass over, to declare to the I louse the opinion he had formed with respect to eke lega lity of that meeting. He trusted lie sho thl stand excused for not accepting the challenge at the time it was thrll , lil out, tor, if he had proceeded to address me House at two o'ciock in the morn. ing, it was easy to anticipate the way in which stunt an entertain ment would have been received, after a debate of to hours. lls conceived that the meeting was perfectly kgal. anti that It was improyerly di -!:creed. It was a Illtht 111UtilealtOUS subject, a subject that never would be exhausted, until Vie nous.. granted a full inquiry. A. notice was given of a motion on this great question on Tuealay next, he would mem has observant.. for that day. But chi - address he never would awe:: to, until some substantial reason was assigned for omitting all mention of the transactions at Mancheater; for leaving entii el' , out of sight too greatest evil that ever happened to the people of England—an evil the more to he deplored, since the act was defentled as one that was justified by the law of England, contrary as it was the laws of justice and of humanity. In an address, which overlooked this important subject. which did not touch on the circumstance that rendered it necessary, if such a circumstance could be adduced, to draw the blood of his Majesty's subjects, he never would concur. Ministers might have motives. which led them not to state, in the speech from the throne, those sentiments of regret for the transactions at Manchester which they now declared they felt. But whatever tnott7e might .se:uate them, there certainly was none that ought to prevent the House of Commons flout expressing its feelings on this occasion. (I (cur.) Those who opposed inquiry ought to know and feel, that the present was the best of all times fur that House to declare its sj. apathy for the sufferings of Rat people, when an address was ahoit to be carried to the foot of the throne. To these constitutional declarations succeedec a long debate. but the Report was ultimately agreed to without a division, and the House adjourned at 9 o'clock. SAT l• RDAY. NOV. 27. This day, at half past 1111 e o'clock. the House proceeded to Carlton House, to present the Address in answer to the King's speech, and on its return a is nun icOodoly adjourned till Monday. FROM TUESDAY NIGHT'S G.4ZETTE. —ollo— returned to serve in 'this present PAidI.LtMENT. COUNTY or KENT.—Sir Edward Knatelibtill. Bart. in the room of Sir Edward linatchbull, BANK Itl: ITI ES SUPERSEDED. 11. Slimmers. St. Switlineo Lane, merchant. B. Oxnam, Penzance, merchant. BANKRUPTS. W. Nedby, l.amli s Conduit Street, upholsterer. Solicitor, Mr. Pritchard. Essex Street. Strand. W. Suffield, Birmingham, printer. Sol. Mr. Alexander, Carey Streit. Lincoln's H. Merry, Birmingham, grocer. Solo. Messrs. Swain, Ste vens. Maples. Praise, and Hunt, Old Jewry. F. steed. Bristol, butcher. Sols. Messrs. Stocker, Daa - son, and Herringliani, New Boswell Court. J. Nuttall, Manchester, bookseller. Sol. Mr. Makinson, Middle Temple. W. Tabram. Fendrayton, Cambridgeshire, butcher. Sols. Messrs. Smith, Hatton Garden. .1. Hartley, Manchester. warehouseman. Sol. Mr. 3lakinson, Temple. S. Perkins. NI idford. Somersetshire, dealer. Sols. Messrs. Adlington and Gregory, Bedford Row. S. Davenport and R. Fa le, Manchester, engravers to calico printers. Sols. Messrs. Adlington and Gregory. Medford Ilow. T. Thompson. Lanea:ter, ironmonger. Sol. Ir. Blacklock, Sericant's Inn. Fleet Street. W. Pealotin, junior. l'lymouth, tailor. Solo. Messrs. Anstice and Wright. Inner Tenrple. W. Cronin, Snow's Fields, Bermondsey, provision dealer. Sol. Mr. Kathy, Houndaditch. DIVIDENDS. _ _ N0v. , 27, G. Watkins and W. Cowper. Lincoin s Inn, menet scriveners—Y7, .1. W. .Middlewond. Whitechapel High Street, perfnmer-27, A. Gompertz, Great Winchester Street, merchant W. liry in. %%like Lion ('ourt. Hitchin Lane, merchant— he. 14,1). Price. Watford. liens, linen draperl.s, T. Stunts Allen Street. Gomel) Street, carpet manulicturer-14. J. Cum. berlege, George Yard. Lonthanl Street.merchant-14. H. Mose. ly. Lawrencel'ountney Dill, and 1. Whieldon, Cupthall Court. Throputorton Street, merehants--Dee. 18,S. Brantley, Shorter's Court. Thrognamon Street. bill broker-IW. W. linnet% Se John Street. elteesentortget-1 N. J. Gtalland P. D. Foley, Tower !loyal, merchants. ths MAJESTY.—A gentleman who has been in his presence a short time ago, states, that the ap pearance of onr aged Monarch is the mot cetwrable imaginable. His hair and beard are white as the drifted snow, and the latter flows gracefully over a breast which now feels not the pleasures or the pains of life. When the gentleman saw him, be was dressed in a Jooe satin robe, lined with fur, sitting in an n i iparently pensive• mood, wiih his elbows on a table and his head resting on his hands wonting perfectly regurdlcss ;of all caterual