The Statesman. — London, England, 1820-11-08 00:00:00

weak in the port of Naples,) I am qnite at a loss to Isere what I should do. I w ould not hesitate, at my ifs e xposer, to drive o ff with them myself directly. Bat should Ibe vet in time ? I would tak e and transmit t heir affiilaritt• but "I 1P640 ? They could not be given in evidence. In short, as 1 hurry over this on the spur of the moment, that n ot a moment may b e l ost rom - J oso iesting what has just come to my knowledge, I hoe not time to redect what ought to be, lint I shall c ertainly not suffer . any selfish apprehension for my own to check me in the pursuit of that which I shall r n i c e inde to be necessary to the support of the truth. I t ' s s great stake, and must be played promptly and resolutely. The following are the names of the wit sent o ff, on the 9th of October, from Naples, by Sir William Xt'eart:— Sarerio Garciullo, mate of the Adam", now in dock here . . (present to him) 300 dollars (Memo° Caminito, seaman ittatoaio Castell,no Francesco Saverio Aeasepora .. , 60 .4 The sailors who sailed with the Queen, left behind in prsdeace possibly & G iu seppe Paturzo. sa old sailor, strongly in her favour. Relict° Castellawo. Anallu Maresca." gorn WATER .tT LONDON BRIDGE To-uonnow. spout, it 4 rain. after S.—Evening. 14 Ws. titer 4. rigs OF sloc Sok ad Cot. Rid 674 s per Ct. Ca. • 67 68 071 rt Cot 4/w Cep I spat,Sily 104$1 Log An. 17 7- hp. Spey Cent. tan. 6.4 DAY AT ME O'CLOCK. ludia Stock Ditto Bondi ?Os. Vs. pm. Old Annuities Ex. Bills 2d. i•. los. pm. Ditto Com. Ornninen 1! die. Con, for Account t 67i Lott. Tickets 21/. ISi. ett ttattilman. R amis sTATILVi t!... IS INCORPOR rso WITIN " tot SIATE?.IIVi." LON 1) 0 : WEDNESDAY LVENING, NOVEMBER 8. TUE QUEEN. HOUSE ^F !IF LO 111)6.—Tuis MonNixo. Prayers were rend at ten o'clock, and the Peers went t..• n rtl: • i tt‘fr. The defaulters were numerous, bat as t h e !louse has decided the principal question, we shall set runtinue to record the absentees, unless Nine cursordinary reason should induce us to du so. When the Clerk of the House came to the name of the Bishop of Bristol, the Earl of Ltrzaroot rose, titore;f, that this Right Ri•cerend Prelate should k escus , .,l farther attendance, as he had certain pres.iinc :ties to perform, as Master of a College. Lord Ki:N VON opposed the motion. If the King curtly/ell the privilege of naming. the Bishops, who were liberally paid out of the Public Purse, it was r e i n that, at least, they should attend to their Par , , atary duties, and not undertake those, which ner.slarily bring on a failure c f the perform. wee et others. • The Earl of LIVERPOOL said that he was not I attempting to lay down as a general principle, that the Bishoi s should be excused from the performance of their parliaubentary duties. The Hight Rev. Preia:e 1:;:d a:teuded very punctually hitherto, and eonceivinz that the House had disposed of the leading luestion, he thought it was nut too synch to ask the House to excuse his further attendance that he might be enabled to perform those duties, the non-perfor mance of which, would produce an inconvenience to the public. A Strand turn got up, and said there was not a flier pup!► hi the world fur a Bishop than his Right las. Mend, the Bishop of Bristol. 1,1 1 ,1 Ft BDESI).II.E supported the motion. The t'sh:pet!on the :Vol& Lord would apply to every etheer in the Army and Navy who was a 31ember of that Howe. Lord KENTON said, he hail not intended a:n• re ars-dun ou the Bishop of Bristol, who might be very respectable in his situation; but his (Lord K.'a) ob jection went to the principle of appointing men to isidt Ptaliotig, the duties of which they were compelled to cegleet, IN order to attend to others. As the sense of the ♦loose was against hint, he should not press his -ob;..ctiou, acmes he bad net heard any thing tualter On the motion of the Loan CI:ANCEt.:.ou, this Hight Rev. *Ptelate was then excuses' from !lather attendance. ?Ls LORD CHANCKLLOH stated, that be hail re erired a Protest, signed by a number of Noble Lords, ag.:inst the decision of the House, touching the second trading of the Bill that. Lefore the House. Lord HOLLAND rose, and stated, that as he had bees yesterday seder the necessity of absenting him self frosts the House, on account of indisposition, his same did not appr.2r upon the protest, and it was now too late, at-cording to the roles of the House, for him to affix his name to it. Nevertheless, he was most anxious to remrd his dissent against a measure which, from its fir:: intmduction into that House, be had con sidered as unconstitutional and nnnecessary ; and Whirk after haring. heard the arguments at the Bar and in the House the ablest he had ever heard in those sells, he now enn>i:leretlMost unjust in its principle sad dangerou s in its pro b a bl e consequences.--(llear, k eaT, hear, )--ile, therefore, bad to request of their lAqdsLipg a relaxation of their general ruin, on ac t' not of his illness, Anil that they would permit hint to affix Lis name to the protest. '!he Earl of DARNLEY stated, that he bad a si milar application to make to their Lordships' indul rent', though he feared he did not come with so good a grave as his Noble Friend. The fact was, that although his disapprobation of the Bill was not less Altai that of any Noble Lord in the House, be had really forgotten to sign the Protest.—(A laugh.) Lord HOLLAND begged permission to state ano ther ground fur the permission be requested. There were certain general rules of the House respecting the hour at which all Protests should be tendered, but the present hours of the House rendered a cons pilaw, with the general rake almost impossible. Lord DARNLEY moved, that the standing order that prohibited Noble Lords from entering their pro test after a certain hone be suspended. Lord LAUDBRUALE said, dna a media, order if that Holm *veld, not be imposed. The standing order was than read. Lord HOLLAND said, that he must be allowed to have sotre experience in the forms of that House, and he had to inform them, that be had often heard si milar applications, but never before heard a refusal. Lord LAUDERDALE only wished, that the thing' should be done according to forms. Lord HOLLAND said, that he would move, that the standing order be taken into consideration to morrow. Lord DARNLEY then moved, that those Noble Lords who wished to enter their nautes should do it. Ile thought that the best course to pursne. Lord LIVERPOOL said, that he saw no objection to Noble Lords entering their names, the utmost lati tude should be given. He recollected in the ease of the impeachment of Lord Melville, that two or three days were given to permit Noble Lords to enter their names, and he thought, for exceeding good reasons, in a case of such magnitude. The CHANCELIAM said, that it seas certainly dr sirable that the standing orders of the House should I be attended to. But he was by no means anxious that every indulgence should nut be extended to Noble Lords who were prevented from attending, from bodily disease: and must particularly tu that Noble Lord who sat near him, (Lord Holland,) fur he well knew what I that disease was. But there was a distinction to be made between the disease, oldie body and those of the mind. And when Noble Lords say that they forgot to enter their names, they should state some reason when they make an application to indite. the House to extend its indulgence. Ile was most averse that Noble Lords should, to use a Scotch phrase, stem" I their :sautes on the Journals.---(A laugh.)—lle hoped his Noble Friend (Lord Holland) would never again have so good an excuse.—(A laugh.) [The Noble Lord alluded to Lord Holland's ladle position, who, we regret to say, labours under an at tack of the gout, but still would nut absent himself front his Parliamentary duty.] Lord DARNLEY said, that he d!.l not expect Noble Lords opposite would deal so hardly with -Vow ?hi ricurth;r, after hating extended so liberal a por tion of indulgence to the renowned Theodore diet jo,•chi.---(Muth laughter.) Lord ERSKINE said, that although a Scotsman, he did not mean to stony his name in tile journals, He had to intreat the indulgence of their Lordship, for his utiyake proceeded not lion' neglect, but ig norance.--(Loutl cries of question) on which the order of the day was read, when The Archbishop of TUAM rose, and spoke as nearly as possible in the following' words :---- " My Lords—lt is with the utmost reluctance, that I stand before vou. Nor would Ido it, if I had not been !) pointedly called on by the Noble and Learned Lord, who yoke last in the debate yesterday. My Lords, much has been said on the construction of the 32d verse of the 5111 chapter of the 60-pel, ac cording to St. Matthew; and, All gh my remind has been long made up, as to the Divor. e Chum, accord ing to me view of that verse, I will lint trouble 3 our Lordships any further on that subject. But, if I can shew, that the illustrious Latiy, whose eontluel has been under discussion, has been pot away by her , 'ATESMAN, .., .~ remain Queen to all intents and purposes.---(Hear, hear, hear !).:—He thought it wonld be also necessary to introduce I clause explanatory of the clause of de gradation. Amidst the difficulties which presented themselves, he would recutumend the adoption de some middle roam, which would not be attended with the consequeisces which must evidently result from the passing of the divorce clause. He would ask that a clause should be instituted, less powerful in its operation. Due that was sufficient to the emergency of the case, yet free from the objections to the Divorce Clause, which were of • religious nature. Marriage was a religious contract as well as civil--and he would ask that they should annul the civil rights, but leave the religious one, unaffected ; such a measure should have his support. lie was too unacquainted with the forms of law to pros . pose any specific measure himself; but as the Noble Lord, at the head of the Treasury, had yesterday thrown out that something of that nature was iu his intention, he should leave it entirely to hint. The Bishop of CHESTER spoke in explanation. lie never meant to assert that adultery, according to Scripture. was not considered as a ground of divorce. But regarding the sanctity of the marriage union, and the reciprocal obligations resulting from it, be covld not consistently with his conscience vote for the Divorce Clause. Lord REDESDALE thought C:e marriage union was rather to be considered as • religious vow than as a civil contract. The character of a Queen Conseet was not merely a personal, but a public character. And that character could nut be taken away, except by disTolying the civil coutrart. The WILD CHANCELLOR, from his anxiety to seek information upon this subject front those who were better informed than himself, had, since the adjournment, searched writers whose information was likely to be the best. A Noble Lord (Liverpool) had held out at the commencement of the proceedings, that if there should be a general feeling ag•inst the divorce it would not be presses!. He (the Lord Chancellor) considered himself in honour as a party to that promise ; and upon that ground his own opinion should give way to the general wish which prevailed. Although he thought the clause were best retained, yet upon the ground he had men- Boned, and upon the religions doubts which existed in the winds of many, he should consent to its re jection. An intimation hail been given by a Reverend Prelate that a middle course ought to be adopted. It was impossible to leave the Bill without some other enactments, if the Divorce Clause were left out. For although by the clause degradation, the rights and prerogatives of the Queen would be taken away, yet the parties would still be bound to each other as before. Hr would suggest as a Clause, that the separation should be considered a legal separation, and should exclude a liability on the part of the King to her debts. 11 a suit were instituted in the Ecclesiastical Court, for a restitutiou of conjugal rights, the hits baml might ansi-er the snit by shrwing that the wife had committed adultery; and that would be a bar to the snit. - fie threw this out for the consideration of their Lordships, and concluded by commenting on the duties of a conscious Minister. husband ;if I can alsa slew, amongst the var;ons Thr,.llarsne,;:i L 1 Ns 1) 0 11' x}„, felt it impossible texts of Scripture, a EIrICTOR denunciation from to suffer this question to go to a division without offer the Lord against putting away, I shall at least ing a few observations, although he had not takes an slew, what is in itself a sufficient ground to induce . Wive part in the Commt•ttee respecting the other me to rote against the Divorce Clause ; which will branches of the Bill. On the part of the Con,titution, have the iinniediate object, and in fact, release the on the part of the people of this Country, be protested King from the marriage contract, and leave him at against the recognition of a principle, which would de liberty to marry again. My Lords, the truth of this dare that a woman multi be the Consort of the King, and yet not the Queen of this country. Peeling the lady having been put away. can he next deduced Irons n w n e t igh n t s o s f ib t l he s tje t c h ti i o s n e to es su l ch ni a ns rr i iriple, he cool,' the le:ter of her husband ; and for the saleinn denun ciation of the Lord, I would refer to the second chap- Such p a 342:1i0n as lit had mi g :iitiontal wa ' s " l ' o r t i a l ll r v in trn- • ter of the Book of the Prophet Malachi, where fur known to the Constitution. It was a situation which unlawfully putting away, " the face of the Lord was rendered it impossible for its object to answer the ends turned away front the people, in so much that he re- ' which were naturally espeetesi from the wife of the So garded nut their offerings. The halls of the Temple, vereign. By omitting this Clause they would proclaim aloud that the Queen had col ttttt Wet! adoltery ; that she even to the Altars were filled with the lamentations of was unworthy to be the Queen of this country, and yet women , suPPlirating H eaven to shower down yen- • worthy to be the wife of its King Such was the sub geance on their heads. Take herd, said the Lord, , stance the . ff ,", nay, the letter of such an omission. of Israel, and let none deal treacherously with the Conhl it he supposed that this circumstance was a twat. wife of his youth, for the Lord hateth putting away." : ter of indifference to the rontitry, to a country, which My Lords, I stand before you a most unwilling Judge had always considered the marriage of it, Kings, as in this case, and I candidly confess that nothing but certain public measures to answer the convenience of the essi p . O blis? sisch oiission woul in fact he .to force , nothing nothing but the heavy penalty, annexed to your Y° ate the h an ang from n conti nuing d the succon W whi r ch Lorukhip's resolution wonld have induced me to attend Parliament and the Conntry haul a right tut expect would in this place, during the present iiires'igation. I hecon•inned in the per- onoithe King: Ile bcs.:eclied the m bare been brought here by compulsion, forced away ; to pause before the: rejected this clause, to pause be from most important duties, which no man on earth, hut lore haying agreed that the preamble of the Bill myself, is entitled to perform, and which duties have . had been proved, they rejected a clause which was an been suspended 'or the last three months, in conse- 1 inherent part of the Bill. It was, he considered, a ne garner of my absence. But having been so forced, I : cessary consequence of the clause of degradation. If bare paid every attention in my power, to the evidence i they left out this clause they would declare that a no on both sides, produced at the liar of this House, to the man who had been Princess of iVales, haul committed able statements of the Counsel both in snpport of the adultery in that situation, and had afterwards become Bill, and in defence of her Majeaty the Queen, and also Queen, in whirl' character it did not appear she hail to the eloglis.nt speeches of Noble Liirds, on the merits and committed adultery, was unfit to he Queen of England, dem:Tits of this case. My Lords, I have attended and vet waspertecily fit to be the King's wife. They every day, every ( hour, and almost every minute, I would record as an adulteress a person who would con ' tinue the wife of the King, and might afterwards become and I have voted for the second reading of this Bill, the Queen regnant. To all those inconveniences they because I conceived there was no other course before were subjecting themselves ; and he contended that the House, whereby I could give my opinion, that a they were bound in justice to the coantry, and for the dear, satisfactory, and irresistible case of guilt, haul promotion of public utility, to admit the substance of been made out against the Queen. liut, to this Di- ' this clause. lie would ask them to observe 'that would Yorce Clause, I never can consent to reconcile it to . be the situation of the Queen if this clause were rejected. my wind, and should it go out of this C ttee, as She would be stripped of all the rights and advantages ' of a Queen, and the protection due f a husband, and a part of this Bill, I cannot, in conscience, vote for would be left exposed to allthe disabilities of a wife. The the third reading of this Bill. For, I would rasher adultery, if proved, drew after it as a necessary, an irre a thousand times, that the cnnulnct of the Queen should sistible consequence, the Clause of' Divorce; and with go undegraded, than that I should vote fur the Divorce out such a Clanse ' the Bill would appear still more Clause. anomalous than it did at present. To prevent such an The Bishop of PETERBOROUDH had never in anomaly he should oppose the rejection of the Clause of nailed I Divorce. . his life entered into the considetation of any Lord KING said that upon the present question there oppressed with so many difficulties, as the considers- , appeared universal confusio-. There was confusion li o n of whether a divorce should be granted in this i among the bish o ps, confusion among the lawyers, case, or not. It had always been his wish, if possible, and confusion among the ministers. He thought to leave out the clause, but at the same time a divorce it very unfortunate for the Noble and Learned Lord on was fully warranted both by the laws of Clod and man, I the Woolsack, who had relied so ninth upon the opt when a case of adultery bad been made out.—He was ' nion of the Bishops, that he should find so great a anal ,ns that the Divorce Clause should not he enume- want of uniformity among thine Right It eeeee mi ' rated among the Pains and Penalties which the Bill ' Fathers of the Church, and upon which uniformity contained, but he hoped for the admission of MOOI they had always hitherto prided thenuselns.—(.l other clause which world tend to relieve, the diffieul- , laugh.)--With a choice of evils before him. lie should ties which you'd attend its rejection. He was unable to! endeavour to make the proceeding somewhat less comprehend bow her Majesty could remain the wife 1 absurd than it would appear without the Clause of of the Kin', and not also remain as Queen. And Divorce, and be therefore should oppose the rejec he was equally enable to comprehend how, ceseist. lion of that clause. In such aOW as the present, ently with the clause of a°llll64l°°, the aim'', It was loirossible to divest the mind of the numerous cl a use m id be left eat, Without it bee Majesty smut reports which were in circt:stion. He bad heard that I 1 1\ I I it Was not with Bergansi alone the Queen bad been guilty ' of indecent f am ili ar iti es . S ome p eo pl e h a d gone so far as to say, that a t Bleckh ea th s h e hail net been very discreet in her beh av i o u r to th e 1-• ar l of Liverpool.—(A loud laugh.)--It was !aid tli it she had played at bli n d man ' s b u ff w i t h t h e Neh!e Earl.—(Another loud laugh.)--But he (Lord li.) .. supposed th e r e in i t ... • i was no thi ng ; or at all even!, it must have been when his Lord s hip wa s m it o f neice, • and wanted to get into 10 0 11ce.—(Peals of laughter). The Earl of LIVERPOOL sa id a cross th e ta bl e , .• neve r. - I The cheers from the Mini s t er i a l B enc h es on thi s s i ng l e 1 ! word of his Lordship, were the loudest we ever helm. Lord KING concluded by slaying, that, litho's'', iipon t‘' principle he opposed the * Bill, he should support tl:•.! t f ' clause of Divorce. Earl GREY said, he c o u ld no t see h ow t h e N o bl e an d ) Learned Lord on the Woolaatk had been able to ren;ove ~1 4 his doubts by the decided opinion of the Bench of Bishar. . lie repeated that which he bad advanced, over and ' over agai ts, that it was inconsistent with the interest:tot - the people and the honour of the Crown to declare, that I I a woman convicted of &Julien., and consequently tic- worthy to be the Queen of theie realms, should be coo- t • sidereJ worthy to remain the wife of the King. lit the hope that the hill would be rejected on the third reai:iile, he should vote for the Clause of Diaorce. The Earl of DONOUGHMORE sup orted the :'a!'' , ) and in layout of Lis opinion repeated the argument: le: had urged yesterday. Lord ELLEN BOROUGH said he could no: • r .i !. , t any religionsubjertion from the Ilishaps, nor any sit it objection front the opinion of his Noble at.d L ormol t Friend Fin the Woolsack against the retaiuing Vie IF& clause of divorce. To reject it, would be to declare that the Queen was by frr too bad to continue tbieen, but quite good enough to be the wife of the kin'-•. He considered such a declaration as something in the nature of a seditious libel, and he should therefore 1 vote for the clause. Lord SOM u. ERS spoke in favour of the c1..-f.. bat in a very low tone of voice. Lord CARNARVON said, he would mod cer- I • tainly vote for the Divorce Clause. Nor tin- !!••te -, , had declared by its vote, that the Queen was ii.d l:t t to be associated nit,' by any woman in Em.. land, al.l now they called on him to say, that she was fit to be the wile and mate of the King. He would not be in- strumental is such an insult to the King. aid if th'st was the measure that his Majesty's Minister's thought • i• fit to bring forward, humble as his voice might be, it should be raised against such a monstrous insult to . the Throne of England. k Lord HOLLAND said, that nothing he let.l heard, could induce hint to vote ageism' the Divorce Chose. 9 It was a most extraordinary proposition, alld a Ire%; IA extraordinary measure altogether. Ile as ished to sev.f. f his objections to the Bill, is every shape and star, and he would say, noon his honour, nut con:ent, ole - tier the bivorce Clause was retained or r 4 yet• d, *.o ) •: ' the third reading of the Bill.--(Hear, hear :) The 51arqu's of BUCK! N BHA al said, th. j in cor- 7 sidering that question, he was naturally most auxiutts AJI that Cie opinions ofithe Right Rev. Pr, lutes should l.e y . had on the subject, and the result of their opiniqua • convinced him that by the law of Clod, there o•as no t . impediment to divan e in eases of adelterv. Ilelterfie that to be the lent tti Gosl, he could not comic.... 4 4 • • lease the Queen the wife of the king. There was a . . sentiment in the speech of a Learned Gentleman at the Bar of that House, which was not applicable. lie s li'?, that your Lordship did not say aceording to the I Gospel, " Go, and sin no more." la that he agreed. , a For by entitling the Divorce clause, their Lordships s.ii:i. - -g the Queen might go and commit what sin she plea'eo, for site was sure that no ill consequences could Ivilow. Lord SIANVERS said, that on a prior occasion he • had given that Bill his most unqualified approbation, and tie would not now consent to omit the moat esaen- f vial part of it. A Noble Lord had said yesterday, that be was conscientiously convinced that the whole of the charges originated in a foul conspiracy. Ile said jus: as consrientiously, that he thought quite the reverse.— . . (Herr, hear, hear !)—Frout the Duke of Clareece. Lord DARNLEY said that he would rut inn. on either side of the question. It was immaterial to him hoar that point was decided. He would not, by voting • on either side, be thought to sanction, either directly or indirectly, any part of that Bill. Lint cries of question, question ! on which the question W.li put, a : li d noon was called for, and strangers ordered tun at lidraw. On our r•--adtuission we found the numbers to he, 1 For Cie Divorce Clause Against it d e _. ttejorit) in favour of the Clause .. 67 4 I The House immediately adj o urned to ten o'oek to-morrow morning. 3 it ' In the cotme of yesterday, the House of Lords pro- , reeled to discuss in a Committee the various clauses .... of the Bill of Pains and Penalties. On that which had contingently provided for a Div o rce, i n case the 4. alleged adulterous intercourse were proved, much ' difference of opinion, as was expected, prevailed. There never has a case occurred in which a Divorce . has beets granted, without an application front an aggrieved, and petitioning party. It Is requisite, be- sides, accor.:lng to the law of the land, and to the uni- form decision of the Judges in ecclesiastical court:, that the applicant should appear in court, with what a is technically called clean hands, or, in other woad-, • ; without an imputation on himself of the crime on ac- count of which he seeks to be relieved from the of- fending par.y. The discussion on the Clause in ques- tion was adjourned till this morning, when, tnicabit• 1 dieter, the Clause alas, on a division, carried by a ma- jority of 129 to 62. Let nut, however, the enemies of the Qneex rejoice on the occasion. The opponents 1' of the Bill have allowed this ineens;stest and obnox- ious Clause to stand as one of its conatittrewe parts, in )t ' order to ensure the defeat of the whole. front the number of the Noble Lords determined to oppose that r portion of the measure, who were among those who ; . supported the other parts of the Bill, joined with suck as have been uniformly in opposition to the wltule the k failure of the Bill, on its third reading, Is, at this ts3J- . went, confidently anticipated. ,f Boston papers arrived this morning to the 1391 . . October, of which the following is an extract sas- (loon Naws.—Letters from Europe say, that indi- cations existed that our territorial differences with Spain, and the tariff squabble with Prance would shortly be settled on terms equally of equity and 1 justice. Letters from Port au Primer: dated tPh August, say, the town has been set on fire la twenty, sine places since the great yondagratiou, and ti.e , . 1 foreign merchants are very much alarmed, aid bar- I f ricatie their beiges. ..• ... ...- I • erapenotiolw4ltoassatetwo....----:--Jsrso,l•7 74M...,...;,-- -- - •