The National Register. — London, England, 1819-12-13 00:00:00

OV.C. break duw■ all the rs4hts of all the people and to introduce arbitrary power. Ile did not nallt to "i.e what might he deemed lalaminatory language, hot 1101 10 oppose such measures would be to abet tlt.•m. What had occationeo all the difficulties nod troubles of the people; why, misrule Credit was taken for the Bill not iollicting death; but if force were substituted for law s hr eared tint how sanguinary were the laws; nail if it were to ben crime to exclaim +• Liberty or Heath," he eared not whether he was the felt or Ike last victim of •acts a state of things.—(blear ) - lie then condemned the other Bills as still more 0111111101111 than this mrs•urt', 1101ticularly the nearohing for Arms 1/1111, whieli violated the tanctity of an I.lit;lidnuali's d ellisi.:. Such searches were 111 be 'nude by night as well as by day, at the will of constables or spies 4 unit thus was every Win castle encroached upon. This 801 l oiler Mug tile Press, particularly that regolation sultjectiog asecond otli•oce to she punishment of bonislimeist, went to destroy its respee solidity as oell as its liberty.—lint the whole stern' was of the most fatal tendency. These nwiwores went to adopt the tiovesierient of filter, but hr %mild have the 'majorities pause b e f or e they went 111.11 far. Let them not im igiae that things wuu:d lost their time; let Ii st beware of the flsod-g•dts of H.evolution and Bankruptcy—silt y might come too souu wilco some men moi,ht Mud nu ark 10 protect them. Mr. P. (IRENFELL, with all respect for Ina gallant Friend, would rather hear Min on any subject than that of publics, (A laugh.) is to his not u-tug iollanimatory Lilco Me, was the Borough Alerting torgotte.i. *here the gallant ticaeral gave the fraternal shake of the hand and embrace 10 lilt. Hunt, (Hear.) and said that this oat .stoat &Jaded Etininry. Sir K. W I ~•st t N explained, that he never before sas s Tilr. Hunt, and taco he gate his hand so token of going along with him to obtain redress for the otitrae offered to -his pert in—(cheer.) —but lie should have felt much more iliwaced hid lie offered his h.isal us alit oar of those Who were siaiiwd ss ith tlw Mood of his count —6 Ilieers.) Mr. It ICA Itl/0 . 41it the 161 min-tame of the right about to br 1411/ell Up 1%..s not duly emisiderc.l.---( Ilear..)— There mast he untie check on Nlimsicrs„ otherwise Abe Government wools' degenerate 51110 a despotism„ the people, if a 11,.: ad to mat, pro,iited a poorsful check.; but a -reformed Illousw of Conn ttttttt wOllll 11.11111101111 e the most virtuous and eMcieut check ;sod cmitroul upon tinter dueut. (Gear, hear.) Mr. IA lIIMAN and Mr. I). HAity Ey f o llowed, eumpla tttttt g wrosigty °flue in'iu•un bud before the .tons', as well at+ syslem liewient torisl4l4l hi Momaieiv. Sir KOKEItT HERON hectored, that lie wa♦ SO . rravtill) acal entirely opposed to the Bill, that 1111 limi :lotion could reconcile bite in it. (Hear.) No rose tumid be stated %bleb would, let a moment, rreusi tie Blau to Any initasore nod he deemed to he au infraction of the woostitni ion.; and he conceived it would be twitch hotel . for mioi.irr+ to take the real •uhdity of such procee dings nl hclaselvea, Gaon to endeavour to provide fur it the high sanction 161 that House. The SPEAKER then putt the question, '•That the Bill be te-coilinnited;" which was coined willsou'la division. Upon tile potting of the fortber got-Mims, "in a COM• Iniltec of the whole H1111.0..".-.. Colonel BEAUMONT rose, and o bserved, that it was unueeessers fur hit to take lip much of the time of tile House. He should theretore tunic, as an joists siction to the committee epos' the Bill, that they abound make provision to limit its duration to six weeks after the commencement of the neat session of Poillainetit. (Hear, hear.) Upon the 1111 l ion of Colonel BE tU MONT, (oho riser' to tole on all occasions watt Ministris,) a very Heavy debate took place which Lord CRANLEV cob clotted by saying, that lie should vote fur the am-mimeos of the Chaneellm of the Exchequer, though lie was of opinion that it would be e beneficial to the colithiy •that the lii I should have once for ail liven made perisia alt•nl. (Lona cries from the opposition of " Move that it .lio permit) , ) The gallery was then okayed for a division. colonel Beluniont's Zinn was, sve toolorstood nryslived ivishnul divi•ioa. The Honse afterwards divided on the mottos. ml 31r. F. Kuxta o t, to Itseit the Bill to three years.— For it, 153: Against at, 328.—Wijoitty.1;5. The Chancellor of the E‘thesitiet's ametniutent wax then carried in the alfirinativr, r aolvril its( If into a committee, rasa' , atilt• the.Ctsate 1n..,. nbiaineil leave to sit eCttllt to day. 'the limove then ;id joiirneil at a quarter heinre le.. o'clock Mr. Sheriffilothwell (Mr. Sheriff' Parking WS by hie side) preserved the.Cooonon Council's Petition again.t the measures hittothicedk the Ministers. praying the Now,e not to pace them into lawf„•but to entertain the question of Reform. St; K 11AC1STRATKS. Mr. wonv.HOUSE availed himself of the irdiffigence of the 11-louse to read letters from Lord Suffield, l,ortl Lieutenant for Norfolk, rebutting the idea that any partiality was exercised in filling up the C . . .sion of the Peace for Norfolk, and setting forth that he was not aware slimy names being handed to lino by Mr. Coke. &e. Mr. CM( E repeated, that in consegitence of a sleclaratitm made to him at General Money's by Lonl Suffield's that he would insert in the commission of the peace die narnia lit such of his ft Welds ras lee ( Mr. Coke) should recommend. he had lef certain moues at the office of the clerk of the peace for the county ; and was afterwanht inflinned that not one of' the gen tlemen altos,• names.he had so kft was appriintua to the magis tracy. Having made this application. as far as he could recut. .lect, upon the most gracious declaration of Lord Suffield, he was nut a little surprised at the refused which lie expc-i•nced ; and he therefore suliserpontly applied to the Lord l'• • .:ellor fur the same purpose. The Lord Chancellor advised him to make another .-placation to tile Lord Lieutenant; but under such circumstances gq 1w had destaibed, every body would see that such a proceeding was iiiipossinle. (Hear) When, there. fore. be came to town in the ensuing spring, he wrote to the Lord-Chancellor on the subject, who appointed hint a meeting in his private chamber in tan !louse of Lurch, white lie ( Mr. ('oke) hall never been Witte. and where he had never been since. (licar, and a laugh.) The Lord-Chancellor told him, that he would turn the subject in his mind, for he (Lord _Eldon) was fully convinctd that he (Mr. Coke) would not re• commend any individual as a fit person to be appointed a ma gistrate who was unworthy of the situation %Vhether Lord Eldon had paid the Lord Lumtenant of the county the compli ment of communicating with him on this point, he (Mr. Coke) could not : but this lie knew, that all the ransoms whom he recommended were were within 4 months inserted in the commissiim, exce pt indeed, one hon. Kent., now a member of the house, whom he thd net see in his place. (Hear.) 11' Nether the memory of lord Eltion lied failed hits, was not for hint to determine : if it had, so much the worse for the suitors of the court in which his lordship presided. But he himself . ..ell re twliected all these points. As to the inipsunality which Lord was said to display in die exercise of 'his magisterial THE NATIONAL REGISTER. duties, he must say that for one, he doubted it. (Heat.) He firmly believed that several of the magistrates had merely been put into the commission for party purposes, and that several et* ( Mr, Coke's) friends had been rejected merely because they were his friends. (Hear.) was the kind of mama - ice which would be exercised in al parts of the kingdom, if the present bilk were to pass : it wmuld be extended nut only to the magistrates, but to time sheriff ;of every county. Ile did not mean to say that it wits extended so far at present ; by no means : there had been n splendid meeting of the freeimulders of Norfolk, at Norwich ; and teo much praise could not be given to his lion. friend the Higi Siteeiff of the county for his conduct on that occasion. (Hew-) He :tad there itated, that it was his firm opinion, that the government were themselves most strongly implicated in the events at Manchester, (bind Cr es of hear.) It was his opinion, and he could not change it. (Ilene.) It was his opinion, beesuse they set ;heir eel 'against all iuminiry, for tear, he supposed. of something coming out which would deeply impliuste thineselves. (Cheers.) Having taken Harrison in London without a riot, they were determined to kick up a riot, rather than not have a reason fur enacting measures like the present. Ile might bare been 'mein on this subject; he amid not help it: it was the temperament of his nature ; if he teed said any thing offensive, he was burry fur it ; but lie had only elated what had passed as accurately as his re collection served him.—(!tear.) The SPEAKER interrupted the convereation„ observing, that it had gone quite far enough ; in the most lax practice of the House he sbil nut remeinner where indulgence had genie to such lengths. Sir It. PEEL moved for leave tobring in a Bill to amend the Act of last Session regarding tile reg slat len of the hours of labour in the Cotton Factories—Motion agmed. laird EItE AG II moved, that the blouse resolve itself into a Committee on the Seditious Meetings Fremont , . Hill. The motiod was agreed to, the Speaker left the Chair, and the House resolved itself into a Committee on the Bill, where many vetted exceptions were taken by Sir C. Monks Mr. Lamb, &c. regarding the clause touching time calling of County Meetings by the bird Lieutenant as well us the Sheriffs. It was ohjsvted that the Meetings would be completely contiouleml by Ministers, if the power of convening liens was limited to Lord Liesatenants, &e. as it had malleably been semen how mute it was expected that such pursuits should bow to the Ministry. The clause, however, was carried in its original form. &Nerd other verbal objections were ;mule and amendments offered ; and the House, in Committee, continited to theciiss them till a later hour; after which the Cowman reported progress and had leave to sit again this day. WEDNEODAY, DEC. B. Mr. CALCHAFT presented a l'eritmon from proprietors of Drury LaneThentre, praying for leave to bring in a Bill to einem! their Acts. Iteterreml to a select Committee. ..... MA NC IiSTE It E ETI NG. Sir R. WILSON presented a Petition trout seven inhabitants of Ashton-under Line. in Latica,iine, osta of whom was a yeo man, but not a yeomanly cavalry titan. They said that:they were pteseist at the Aleeung at .laticliester, Aug. 16; that it was vio lence. by lawkss Ana 'sanguinary violence ; and that they were ready to depme to such tacta at the bar. 'l'lley prayed the House to implore the Prince Beg -tit to dismiss the present Mini-aers, an whom it severely reneeted. The SPEAKES. nmiarked, that the Petition mentioned the miarepossentations in the HOU,C regarding the Mumhester Meet ing in printed and other hums ; and he apprehended that tie gallant General could not have observed smelt ons.irvations, tae House knew nothing of printed accounts et in debates. Sir H. WILtidEN said, in Ceiltetill.llo2 of the erroneous Oita srioiogy of the Petition mentioned by the Chair, he begged to withdraw it for the present. Petition withdravin. Sir B. PELL brought in the Cotton Factories Labourers' Bill. Read a first time. A Message from the Lords presented the Searching fin Antis Rill, and the Training Prevention Bill, desiring the House to concur in the same. Lord SEVION presented a Petition from upwards of 2000 persons. inhabitants of Liverpool. against Ake measures intro duced by Ministers, as micula.ed to subvert the yet remaining liberties of this country. The Noble Lord and )Ir. Birch bore testimony to the respectability of mariy ofthekignatures.—Veti don read and ordered to be printed. Lord I.OIVT H presented a petition from Westmorlund. praying for enquiry into the Macenester events, &c. ; but he did not believe that it spoke the sense of the county. Mr. BROUGII ANT was of a contrary opinion. The petition was signed by about 3,00(1 persons. after it had been agreed to at a large County Meeting; and he did believe thou it spoke the decided sense of the county. Petition read.—The Petitioners expressed their astonishment at the approbation of Governelem being given so hastily, and without any enquiry whatever: and they prayed the House to institute Parliamentary investigation. Lord NUfiENT made enquiries respecting the,yrovisions of the Royal Proclamation for increasing the army—whether pen stoners who had been engaged lot 'mated servim would .be dis charged on tau appearing. Lord Castlereagh and Mr. Becket visited the Noble Lord to wait till the appearance of the Sit:lenity at War. Lord CA sTLE.IIKAGII moved the first reading of the Training mll/rifling Prevention Bill. Mr. S. W'OIITLEY said, he thoept he could now mention facts which would justil the /louse in passing these Bills as quickly as possible. The practice of drilling and training was tint confined to Lancashire • he was sorry to say it extended to Yorkshire. In Barnsley and other plaits in that neighbourhood,. too and 410 per ons sere seen nightly exercising, shouldering pikes or sticks about three feet long, with somethiag glittering • at the tops like bayonets or pike beads. Regular depositions of these fans had been inado before Su E. \‘'otel ; and the d 'dings sad trainings were made in the most open in:tuner. rite parties regularly marched, halted. shouldered arms, and groun ded anus; and he thought all these momentous acd alarming tams warranted him in desiring that the Bill should peas as quickly as possible. Mr. TIERNEY expressed his astonishment that these tom ' municatione were not made by Government; and to receive them in such way might be to establish a ilangemus precedent. He was ready to put clown these drillings and traituogs, as be could not see any good impose to which they could lead. Mr. (.:CI It W EN observed. that he had received respectable tes timony of the existence of such promedings. and the country looked for this t • aoire with a good deal of anklet). Mr. S. ‘VOII ri.Ey added, that a meering at Barnsley was advertised for Monday next, and there was no doubt the parties would go armed ; ther,tore it was desirable that the measure shouid pas. as quickly as possible. Loud CABTIatiItISAGI. I proposed to go through the tao first stages to-night, and commit the bill to-morrow. Sir J. GUA IiAM said. ow there were large parties practising at dolls, mar Catiole. in the amount of 6.10 persons : that one blacksmith had received orders fot twelve dozen pike heads. or more, to be paid for immethatelv: aa.l she inhabitants looked to ministers for protection, and it, failing there, (tithe opposition.— (Hear ! and a laugh.) Mr. lIROUGIi A M asked what had the magiusates been about so long, as these fasts at Carlisle were mentioned to hint about two months ap,o ? It they could disperse the MatiOiester nireting, where we. tin doMit respecting these illegal mills. which tell little short of I: ii•ing war against the King ? lie wished the Bill to pass x:illy. that it might be viewed es a Parliamentary tli•nunciatios against those who claret? to prectise acct' wicked, illegal, a, dar.gerous ptoccoilings.—( Lou d cheers.) 40S . . . _ . The ATTORNEY GENERAL said. the liegistrttes hall acted against some of these drillers, but as the °Readers muld traverse, there had !Mil ice opportunity w ii take examples. Lord FOLKS l'i(NE observed, as 6o a+ he euulet unaerstand the object of the Bill. that he improved of it. Bill read a first and second time, and tnilered to be committed tiranorrive. Lord I'ASTI.EREAGII moved die first reading of the Searching few Aims Dbl.—Read a first time, and ordered to be read a serumd time on Friday. Mr. Tt ERN EY wishing only to hare one debate on the Rill to regulate and prevent Sedulous Meetings, (speaking for himself only at course) atul as he was desiroa. to see the Bill in its perfuet form, asked when the Noble Luid woold fix the third reading Lord CASTLEREAS II thought the Bill would be read oa Friday. Mr. TIERNEY replied, that this would be fixing two debates for Friday. I .or.l C ASTI.EIt E AGO then prop vita that the third reading should be fixed fur Alonday.—(lear. hear.) NAVY. Mr. HUME rose to bring foTorrirtl . liis motion regarding the state of the Navy, a portion of our s - rength and defence of more importance then the Army, and the way for whose 41oriei and successes was prepared by the Navy. He concluded with 11/oVilig 6): a lie' 11:3 of accounts, whim would tend to oupport du statement, that a very considerable waving iinglw be made; namely, for returns of tae State of the Navy in ; 701, 92, and 1)3, and in Gril 7, la, and 19, ships now bui:ding, Sir G. COCKBURN bad no objection to the production of ther papers which could be prepared. Ile knew lint Low to reply to the Hon. Mendwr, for in his argument lie run en very wild; but had enquiry precraled the tomato, mete would not he tat much complaint about ships rentaming in dock rotting. By keeping some vessels in duck, they were caleulawd to last longer titan lietetoffire; Mr it was fienti that the prevention of the thy rot wed best ponuoted by sur.oanuing the vmela by atmospheric air. After remarks front Sir J. Coffin, Mr. Croker die. the papa/ were on'ered. _ The House afterwards again went into a Committee on the Seditious Sleeting . i'levetnion fill, in which many vtrhal objection. were ma de and amendments proooserl. Most of Me leading Members present. laird Castlereaitit. Brougm.iti, the Solicitor-tismeral, Mr. Denman, it.c. wok pact in the can. versations. No materiel alteration was orate in We Clauses which came unticr review. The eaamination of these C.4useits again occupied the lions* fill a late hour; after which the Report was ordered to be received tosmotrane. TRrItSDAE. DEC. 9. Mr. 1. Fo4TEtt gave notie.!, that lie snoMil time fur leave to 'ming in it Bill to r:gulate Union tiezietici in Itamd ; be ehe , Ald out make ItUal motion till atter the raess, as emu' Members were now ab,ent tv;.ime Assistinice he , equiresl. V F.ST NSTER PETITION. Sir F. Bt. RDErr prewat...i a Petition, agreed to at a :omicrons, respectable. and onlerly Meeting in West ninon.. against those untorisiitutional measure' pressed tin ward %WI such unnue:ssary baste. It expreacd faose seiiiiiiicuts alien ;re thought all must teL and lie therefore presented the Petition with the greatest pleasure. Mr. LAM isToN seconded the mption for presenting the Petition. The Petition was then brought ap, read, and orth.reil to b. printed. III&NCRESTER MEETING. Lord MILTON presented a revtion siatilartn that by the Earlot Canaarvon in the llouseof NORFOLK MAGISTRATES. Mr. COKE raid a letter from Sir M. Foulkes, corninaing IMO statement male en *former night respectin a ; a tainversation with the Lord Chancellor, relating to the appointment of setae Magistrates fur Norfolk. Lord CASTE, I'. ILE AGFI complained of this course of pro ceeding when there was nu motion before the House. It was urged with the view of producing, or certainly it was calculatud to produce an improper inipressi.m. sir 11 ooLtious.r. expLowli reppectioz this ; and after smite remarks from Mr. sA ihirlsonse. Mr. l'irrne3, tile. the business leiinitutted wanuut say minium being sutinnittd. L.rd NIA; L f resus-d his enquiries regarding the sense of the 'Ps oelsiniAti.on for calling tier out- peits.asier,. Ito ettlieted for sev. u f ems. and who got w04#16 , k. %, ere entitled to pele:1011;; :.b , l hob* tun d any regal.ii iiiii ur 'trod ,tuditoo Lake ud ay taut retard wit;ed irdut est utt 1 ).4th:4111..41m0 C4ilh Lord l':\ I. M Ells row replied, that the pensions by Ma Act alio 4.d 10 by the Noble L•hrd, were go/tided an Use scurf of Rule. not MI the g. omit lit lettuce. laird N tiL '.ll Wird ail inpitvers, guee n iiiii r, tliat un bus (las %tr. k lie iiiii we fir rrturnn of tine number of persons shack luta the Out peu.tuuer: 1..1.1, ti,e. 4•. C. HU ITIIINSON gave notie , l, that on the third remling of the Seditiou4 MeetmAs' l'etoreotimt on Monday, lie s.tmuld move, 'hat Ireland be exempted fraill Ike opera of ouch ISM. li - I',TUItIII.O DIS rittcrs. . - 111 r. 111 , N N rote, pur , ii,Lot to notice, to move for a c. 1111 l nailer ,ata empire wit) Vie fante of th:f %laintfartiaring DOI ricto. ohjral caociatatnill, nod lir frit ea‘tirrd, ghat ouch 1111jeCl Mils 0111) 10 be uee plidiest ti • iinfebti4o non, st Ito alw view of redre,fsiis,:, molt is u.ia.spint) 1110%41 (now dotrietti, %ii - itesur ii4t • tniglat The situ ,- lota or Salford and M tatlar,ter was pea'ailiarl, diotsvie•inz„ Hoo. Nlesettarr 111191 weal 00 to oti.e.ve, in it r veil those fro oho couid gee %oak, conl.l ruin truly 4,3, 6, or at most is. to nrek, by %firkin.; 14 alas 18 notify; and 1.0( per•on. acid I•earc.l% win forailure, lowolal u hrd any loaoko, i hot when thrar exult% r;, such wide, toA, dad eves' lie Alsisktrat, oppos i te helicyr that Put ts r bpi could ro,tentrd foe non. M. 0111/e1 I'olo tuned 11, 1111 l Lifig for a Como ito e to fooluire into 1 he'll:ilk' of the oafacaoring dotrictb, said partscaiariy 1n L.,uruisbire-- ( 11e..., Iseitr). Alter a re.) lost, debate, the motion was of eioure 'sego. lived o 1111001 .1 0111141011. _ .... TR 11 I'll; Int IN EN rioN HILL The toril:r of the d.,. fur committing this ltdl ww; read; for Hou.o neat into a Committee. hal immediately afier,%ard. reiontierl, Tile Chilli 1114 it lortruaht up ;he Ite l iiirt n hi; h wits re. rived ; Mid the Bill was then read a third Lone nod pas.ed. MEETIb;(4. 4 .' iiitEvEvrtMi UiLL. "I'Le Helmut usi duo i II was brovialit up, Mid the natend• melds were rear' a i•er 1 time. Tile mil w..a ordered to he r &l:. third Ii use wit use miter 'infers of tht ILO acre then olipincd of, owl the House isitpiditatil at half pact out u'alitek. FRIDAY. Dar 10. BREA( II OF PRIVILEGE Mr. COUR ITN \ Y ere. , to netti r In. cra•npinint, tint three had hetet * tht Priviltge of °tat Hvirove, Ile ortiiiedreil with tilt ,a n d ointlittig imt ors*" of well lie stilly could hare in du ced hint In Oak,' hi. .10i ire 40 the t lltal 11irt1 her to olient...l the inga pr o e f i t ..ling ti e For calautaiow autftiellearlarUCCCJlMbil afejAirt