The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-02-03 00:00:00

as compared to last, of 115,0001. This diminution was effected in coneequeocat of the redeetioa of 11100 men, which was warranted by the dimiaation of tree en foreign stations. The Hon. Harwell eoseletied by moving a Resolution-- 'net twenty-two tbousaad seeing simulate kept tilt for sterns of !Shiner months, from the let of ileasary, itieliollog eight thoesead royal marines. Mr. CREKVEY said, that before he *void consent to vote for one farthing of the public money he Would move that the House should report progress, in order that to the mean time duty might have the estimates laid before them. Sir OEO. WARRENDER said, that from time im memorial such a vote as he proposed was never re sisted. The vote he called for was merely for the fleet on float. If Honourable Members should want infor mation edinsates would be printed and put into their hands. Mr. CURWEN said, he would not consent to vote Any money without the proper estimates. The Hoe. Baronet said, that in vend this kind, it was not un tumid to lay estimates before the House t perhaps not, but the rJuntry was in great distress, and it was time for the House to mend its manners.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUMS complained of the great redaction which had been made in the seamen, the great support of the Navy, whilst the:marines were kept up, and eren increased. He could not help considering that a rote for tl,OOO marines was nothing less than an in crease of a military establishment. Sir G. 'WA Rftlitiv - VER replied. Mr. O. RENNET said, he would not vote a single wit:.oot an estimate. His side of the House, during the Session, would not votes single penny with not an estimate: they would divide the liouse even with -10 Members.—(Near, hear.) They. at least, would do their duty; they would net relax, even though the Session sowould last till isetober. At a moment of dis tress a:: 1 misery, suds as was never witnessed before, they wo.t::I not consent to the scandalous waste of the public g o oney—they would not endure to see the coun ty g pillaged and rot:heti—(C:beers.) he CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that if Co:lode:lien inspected the Journals of the House, they trollA find the present motion perfectly consistent with the usage of Parliament. On such a Resolution eatituases were ever regnireal before. Mr. MARRYAT supported the Resolution. Mr. GREY BENNET said * if the lioaourable Baronet wanted a vote for a th he would consent to grant it, but he trotahl not consent to grant a vote fur a year without an estimate. Sir 11. CLERK said that the opposition of the Hon. gentleman opposite, was of a conflicting kind. Did he meats to promote ecoonmay by end:easing the seamen? Me. HUME, contended tisatle wished fur economy, hr mho-ties, in the civil department—it was not the payment of seamed thnt WAS . the great expense. in his opinion. the greaser the reduction of seamen, the greater would be the injnry to the navy. Admiral HARVEY *aid it was always necessary to hate a proportion of old and well-seasoued marines for the pivot:se of keeping the new men in a state of dis ciplitie:.of the new men, the most valuable were those who were pressed itool the service by compulsion. — (Hear, and emotions of snrprise). tt It • ItNE said, that the thousand men in q ne s tion were I . 4)issitt rril unnecessary. Sir M. iIAIMANEV said, that young marines were quite 'toeless. Sir ti. IVA KRENDER said, that as soon as tire proper opportit:s:ty offered, a reduction of the Civil Officers woulol lots proposed. In the present state of the Navy, if the exigence of the moment inquired it, as aresameat of VI slitlifelfti men, on an eneeegency, might be soon procured, marines could nuet he cirocoreit at all. Mr. II I' N 1 I' pronounced a panegyric upon the conduct and character of the marines; and Sir U. Cockburne fol lowed on the same side. A Memos*, it hose name we could not collect, observed that for the satisfaction of its constituents , the House c was al!-A upon to require the information referred to la the amendment, before the wotious of the lion. Bart. were agreed to. Mr. Ft HUMS animadverted upon the neglect which had been Manifested towards the nary for some years. It would he much more aguelible to 'leis views of the public interest, to leave a reduction of 5,000 men in our military rstahlishinent, than 1,000 in our navy.—(Hear, hear.)—The difficulty of obtaining seamen, in conse quence of such an extraordinary reduction of our naval force, would, he feared, be very severely felt in the event of any ni.w war. Admi: lIAIIVF.Y here made some observations no- I der the (Witty, which we could not distinctly hear, bell which appeared contradictory to the statement of the last speaher as to the neglect of adequate provision for our seaelen. Mr. FORBES maintained the accuracy of his state ment, fruiting, in proof, the notorious fact that numbers of our seamen were thrown to starve upon the streets of Lonolon, after the war terminated. It was notorious also, that in consequence of their distress, a vast multi: ludo ut seamen haul gone into the service of America as well as of other foreign powers. If such einigratio• indeed were not the case, what, he would ask, hail he- I come of the immense body of seamen by whom our fleets were manned during the war? How came it that enough of men could not now be had to supply our caw tuercial shipping even in the present reduced state of commerce? Sir 11. WARRENDER felt it right not to allow the assertion of the Hon. (ientleuian, as to the neglect of the Navy, to go forth without contradiction, especially as that assertion was so very incorrect; for the fart was, that 35,000 seamen were granted the out-pension of Orem ich Hospital upon the termination of the War, the First Lord of the Admiralty on the same occa sion, promoted no less than 1175 Midshipmen without any recommendation or influence. Mr. 61.ADSTe1NE stated, that there was no diffi uilty in finding seamen. Dr. LUSHINtaTON supported the Amendment, be ta.* he thought that the noose should not accede to the motion without the information to which that amend ment referred. But what he rose more particularly to remark upon, was the allusion made on the other side to the use of impressment for the occasional supply of our navy. He lamented that this system should be so light ly treated by any person acquainted with the numerous evils inseparable from it. lie would not detain the Co mmittee by entering into a detail of all the evils which had come to his knowledge ; but he would state a fact, of seamen, who hail been on a voyage to India, and sh ow for two years, having been impressed upon coming into thz- Chorine', and sent to the West Indies, without being allowed to communicate with their families. No consideration of money should weigh with a great awl generous nation, to induce its acquiescence in such a horrid system, and he was persuaded that any Lord of the Admiralty, who should contrive to set aside that system, or provide some substitute for it, would acquire immortal WIDOW. Sir G. COCKBURNIR said, that all were agreed as to the evils of impressment, and that it should not be re torted to but under the pressure of an overruling neces sity. To reduce that otteeseity, therefor% the Admiralty bad done all that wu in its power. With regard to the allegatioe that man) semen mere eon *early starving in the units 44 Leedom upon the torsioatioo of the war t he vrturosiwiumrsf it would be more correct that many were seem starring in seamen's the Set, wee t .e_sessof a ..saber received _ ships truebllea by do Aawiralty for the relief of those persons, several were found never to have been in t, Dr. LUSHINCITON wished and hoped, were likely is have Essay years of peace, should be made to devise some plan before mint of a new war, for getting rid of a practice rent to humanity, as impressment confessed! , least to diminish its frequency, ea the to it. Mir F. BLAKE made some bloservations Gallery which we could no' collect. 4 Mr. CREEVEY, in his reply. stated, of his amehdment was to get rid of a could Dot be defended in argument, and no time could sanction. A division being callled for, strangers • nada& We were not able to procure the numbers on each dIYI 6 sion, but the following are the results of three eat of five. Sir J. O. Warrender's motion, 66 against 11; for another, 41 against 12; for a third, 43 against 11. Ou our readmission to the Gallery, the Speaker bad taken the Chair, and a motion being made that the liar port of the Committee should be received on Monday. Mr. CREEVEY rose and observed, that a Noble MIN bad stated elsewhere that a County Meeting was a farce, which statement was most incorrect; but he would state that a Committee of Supply in that House was a fare% sad this statement was most correct, and he was pro. pared to maintain it. The experienceindeedof this eve*. 1.404 justified that opinion.—The House had now divided five times on grants of public money to the moist of 1,9(10,00W.; and out of 115.5 Members, the were hi to dii4 e. No person bat he who pro these grants. could possibly understand their nattfir application, and yet men were found to vote away thus largely the money of the public in complete ignorance of the purpose. Within twenty minutes this great sum was voted. Really, if the people of England will remain patient bystanders of such a system. and nut coo‘er the Table with Petitions, they deserve every thing that can be imposed upon them. To give the House, however. a chance of returning to a better system in voting away the public money, he ruse fur the purpose of exposing this insulting mockery. Mr R. BATHURST said, he was at a loss to under stand the object of the Hon. tient. opposite for the last twenty minutes, it was now, however, explained. It was not a new expedient, nor had the lion. Gent. the merit of the original invention. I Mr. ti. BENNET moved the House be counted. The Speaker proceeded to count, ►Then twenty-six Members only being present, the house auljournell. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS D%Y AT ONE O'CLOCK Risk Stock **O i per Cent. Red. 73t1 per Cent. Con. 7214 13k Se per Cent. $ . 4 4 per Cent*. Out Olt 3pr Ct. Navy Idetitt 6 per Cent. fler pt Long Ann. lft 13-16 111 S per lent. Irish 3 per Cent. India Stock Ditto !tondo -4. -C-4, pm. o ottt-lea flock Lx.Hilisett. 6s. 74. pm. ihnnints for Money O pm Dank for Account Con. for Acct iti 73111 Lott. Tickets QIIL etx t etntrOman. " TM[ ONITISN ITATISSNAN" IS INfoRromAIIPS WITH " TUN ST ATEIIII %%." _ of the Repair 173.pietet df Cannon, 3 car ; eanson•balls, grenadel, ' .t gripe-ehor, 1371 chart,' of powder. ballteartridores, 115,300 balls, of pistol; 430 lance; 7 quintals oi lead. 3 gun-boats, and S 7 mot (Signed) say Chief of the General Staff• find Sir Jnitx NewronT, after all, of Langholm to get off so easily. ight have said to it, as Uncle when he opened the window fir . get . ; the world is wide enough for thee and me. !" Out of respect for the cloth, -.indeed, 'kJ, sight have rather said, " poor creature" than 'boot devil:" and if he had called this reverend Pain poor erestwree, be won'tl have given them, we believe, their most appropriate appellation. Men are wonderfully mistaken who estimate the majority of the Ministers of the Kirk from what they learn of 'tie stern and turbulent independence of JOHN KNOX. I fit old, or the disinterested simplicity which is at. WSW to their character in the " Scottish novels" of a recent date. The times are strangely altered ; anti he persons Who struggled bravely for civil and reit ir Gas liberty amidst the storms of persecution., become effeminate and servile, when lulled to repose I under the blandishments ofcorruption. The fact is, that these pretended disciples of the sturdy Scotch Reformer, brought up in general in the families of men of landed property as tutors to their sons, acquire in early life an obsequiousness incompatible with the spirit of independence; and looking to the influence of these patrons for ecclesiastical preferment, as a reeompense for their early services, it is no wonder that io the course of worldly and polit:eal affairs, they seek the countenance of the lairds, instead of the favour of the Loan. In consequence of this close intercourse, and, of course, the patronage of Government, the Ministers okthe Kirk of Scotland have become, generally, the easiest and completest tools of the Ministers of State that any liovernment can desire. It is cousolatcry, how ever, to find, that the spirit of Itng,lish independence still continues to actuate some manly members of the British Senate; and the conduct of Mr. Caruvv anti others, in the House oftommnons last night, will be re gargled with the heartiest approbation. I motion for the restoration of her Ms.ossrv's woe to the Liturgy wet, we were glad to find, announced to be made on Tuesday se'nnight, by Mr.J. Smtrii, who so honourably introduced the res.illitions at the meeting of the Mer chants and Bankers in the Mansion-house. The cha racter of that meeting, so fir as regards the conduct of those who bad called it, was completely vindicated in the House of Commons, in the course of the even ing ; as was the character of public meetings at iiirelLit-fhr roam of the dty, at the neeetisg of the Pree4ohlers of the county of Surrey. Ives Lord ELLENSOROCGN, who opposed the resolutions that were triumphantly carried, declared that he would hear testimony to the respectability and exemplary conduct of that va s t assembly; and Mr. IIoLME Scatstatt, though he did not confess, was made to feel, that at least it was tilt a farce. It is asserted that there is no truth In the account of the capture of Lima by Lord Cochrane, as given in the Jamaica Root Gazette of the 9th ult. Letters it is said were received in the city yesterday, dated the end of October, arcorelititt to which, the Insurgents had re-embarked at Pisco, and the !loyalists felt confident that no farther attempt would be made by Lord Cochrane. It has been officially announced in a message from Louis to the Chamber of Deputies, that the explosign in the Palace of the Tuileries, neither reached the so , red person of his .11ejtsty, !i,r the August owe of Madame. An address was voted upon the occasion to his Majesty. Five per cents. L 4 If. 40c. Extract of a letter dated Trieste, Jan. 16 :—" We hear positively from Laybach, and on good authority, ' that the old King of Naples has distinctly refused to enter into any of the arrangements proposed to him, avowing his determination to adhere strictly to that form of constitution to which he has taken the oath. This unexpected firmness of course puts an abrupt con clusion to the deliberations, and the Congress is ex pected to break up immediately. As soon as the dis position of the King of Naples was known, orders were forthwith transmitted to Milan, the persons who have entered into engagements to supply forage, pra y-Men., or ether necessaries, have been called upon fur the Immediate falfilment of their contracts. The Em perors are expected in less than ten days to be in this, place." Extract of a letter from Rio Janeiro, dated Nov. 16 We arr here, politically, in a state of great agitation, and the general opinion seems to he, that we shall follow the example of Portugal. The King is believed to have excellent dispositions, but he is of an irresolute temper, and quite distracted by the various opinions tendered him in the shape of counsel. Ihe Prime Minister is decidedly for war, and recommends that assistance should be demanded of England. Our navy, consisting of five worm-eaten ships, is fitting for service, and there has been an active press to obtain men. If liberal opinions gain the ascendancy, one of the Royal Family will probably be sent to Portgal ; but the King, we are sure, is determined not to quit us." Extract of a letter, dated Montevideo, Oct. 28:— is We have to announce the capture of Artigas, who was apprehended by one of the guards of Candelaxia, a dependency of the Governor of Paraettly. It is said that Ramie's, the Governor of Entre Rios, claims bilk bat we do not know whether the Para guayans will •31 Kbe e__ a him . up ; if they do, be will probably be tried sad punishment he richly deserves for the iseakulable evils be has brought on his coastry." T 111014 *frees Übe?, M tio With b•e. riught by tke jacket's ; fee heatitilby t II bolleties, 1731)1 I 11; she skirt is s ithe i botAlfteit, 6942 east loop normisea_ r . II the t n h a a v t y. es we 08 8$7 11 Chases tot r %1* 0 re, an endeavour &se, 80 pair of tretheratuntencs- gaistals of tractice DO abhor, •ssedly was, or at calif (Sir t evils belonging 'Warr O ' Coa ri &dons under the IV re pleased to fit I, that the objets! allo e Presbvtery 0 a practice which .4 devil," he mil which, thirds,* said ats the gnat rs were excluded. it, ••• get thee gone; S_ r!__! LONDON: 11*TURDAT EVENING, Vi.Blll ART 3, IS2I. • At we were going to press, Paris papers of the 3lst ult. arrived. They contain accounts of two fresh cepludriosta that took place on Tuesday. But they of course were quite as liparibleislZi 111 1- pticedlni 1111 AV and deserve just as ninth attent;on. FueNun FS:NM—Five per Cent. 92f. 15c.--BAnk Actions 1490 f. STOCK EXCH.-INGE, ONE O'CLOCK. The Funds are still upon the rise. Consols for the Account have been done at 73f, which is a higher price than they have been done at yet, and from the determined hold some speculators take, it is generally thought they may still be better. Money is not quite so plentiful. New Turk Papers (from which we give thr follow ing extracts) arrived this morning to the 16th Jan:— FROM FUR MAIN. Ltrirre has arrived at Old Providence from Barrata. via in a schooner of 16 gums, and was to proceed to Car thagena to join Admiral Bales, who was blockading Carthagenia. .Acitv had sailed from Old Providence to join Bata ,. LATEIIT FROM AOL - 111 AMERICA. Extract of a letter from Lient.o trr•r, ria*eil on board the United States fritate Macedonian, Ray of Callao.: Pith October :—" This is certainly the last letter von will receive from me. In toy last letter to you, I men tioned the sailing of the Chilian squadron from Valpa raiso. having on board an army of 3,(X10 men, destined against Peru. The squadron arrived in safety about a month ago at Pim& The army disembarked, and en camped about thirty leagues from the city of Lima, al though the enemy was in the neighbourhood. The Li merlon appear to be in perfect security, or rather apa thy. The Limarians are by far more numerous than the Itepublicans. The two armies are now within a few leagues of each other : something mast take place in a few days. The new Constitution has been publicly pro claimed. The In ttt isition has been thrown open, and is now exposed to public view—their instruments of tor ture were destroyed." FLORIpA TREATY. Our correspondent, the Editor of The PC/ode/phis Freaklia Gdzette, writes us on the 9th instant, that the Spanish Treaty was received by Mr. RENOVINIT, the Spanish Consul, this day. Mr. MIAS/will be the bearer of it to Washington ; he sets off to-morrow. [FROM Tat NSW TORII PAPER OF Tilt PM JAN• INTKRIRTING Nawe.—Captain CRATCRATT arrived last night from Lignite, informs, that on the 13th ult. there was a general rejoicing at Caraccas and Lignite, in consequence of the armistice of sit months. tie- I neral lifoatu.o bad resigned his command of the army to °foetal LATORA, and had arrived at Puerto Civello, and was fitting out the schooner, Morino, to convey him to Spain. On the 411th Dec. three frigates, one brig, three large transports,' and one schooner with 16,000 stand of arms, clothing, and provisions had arrived. There was an entire stagnation of business in constituency. SOCTR AMERICA. List of ordnance, &c. taken by the Patriots at the Cieneira, Santa Martha, and the different forts on the road India; from the former to the latter, in the Winn ~.:._ .:..~ CO(Z111' OF allil.N0•11 1144VVIA-4'am likatinfa. --AD.— THE ZING V. THE DORUT-STIRZET 4.11111•LlOHT CCHEPAKT. Mr. POLLOCK obtained a rule for a Certiorari, to re move this indictment into this Court, he having obtained an additional affidavit setting forth, the great difficulty of the case, on account of the powers vested in the Com pine by the Legislature, and of its importance to the public taterest. i • THE DINO D. WE 'RANCH RURDETT. The Clue, Juarics pronounced it to be the unani mous opinion of the Court, founded on the prineipks contained in the case of the King r. Horne. that them *as DO ground for entertaining the motion made by Mr. Scarlet?, on Tbe:ssiay. fbr an arrest ofjadgmeat. as the libel plainly ins:oriel!, in itself, that it was of, and con. cerning the Government of this realm. and as it aas the opinion of the Court that the offence was sufficiectly charged in the record. Mr. Jnatiee Bear not having taken his nest. the case was postponed, to wait his arrival, and the Court pro ceeded to other business. . CRIMINAT. INFORMATIONS. Mr. Sr tei.E•r•r moved for a ride to sites, rinse why a criminal information should not be filed against three persons, of the names of Weaver, Arrottatnith, and Blacken ; the first. editor, and the others,. proprietors of the paper railed John 8011, for a 'Mkt otilhe bee Lady, Caroline Wrotteslec, daughter of the Earl of Tata:et - - rine, and sister or Lord Ossulston, and.of the lion. • Grey Bemtett. .. The libel charged thtit lady with having lrati a erirainal intrigue with her tnelgal servant. me The rule was gginteil, the Lord, Chief Justice , ob.; serving, that a libel on a deceased licr:on nigh:, . un doubtedly, be made the subject of criminal prosectilhr. Lord 4lssulston 1/11h the Hon. Grey Brooms,. lank? . of the la e 1111 . sPon, were in Court. F.T. ON TIIE QUEF.N. Mr. Bnoco moved for a like rule atainstdb the Rev. Richard scow, A. M. for a libel on her Alirjesty, contained in a sermon preached by him at Liverpool, on f the 26th of November. The Learned lieuileinan had . .„ I read a part of the libellous matter, in which it was a e serted that the jacobins were more justifiable in their worship of the goddess of reason, than the radicals. who had worshipped the goddess of lust on the pedestal of shame ; when Mr. Justice Abbott said that he had read quite enough, and the rule was granted. . • THE Emu e. DCRDETT. Some unimportant business occupied the Court until. _ . - oneo'clock, when the defendant in this case nail brought up to receive the judgment of the Court. Several affida vits were put in on the part of Sir Francis, which the Clerk was proceeding to read when our Reporter left the Court. Ycaterday morning Prince Leopold, accompanied by Colonel Addenbrolir, arrived at fdaril;munek house from Claremont. It is understood that there is a s:ipnlation in the Government grant of Marlborough-hine to the Marl borough family, which provides, that no person. eit cept the heirs of that family, shall occurs* blip nintisi.w without the special sanction of the linty comic& This sanction is said ter he withheld in the gareit's• case. and consequently the trust •es of the NI ariborougY Estate must be unable to complete their treaty with her Majesty. General Cartwright is to be removed from the 34 Dragoons to the late General Gwvn's Regiment, the pen Gni ; anti bred ertivArrwiere 4, to grt • ,*•••—• the 3d Dragoons, and the tieverninent of Skew. news fa which General Gwyn held. Hy this it would swum that Ultra-Loyalty at Chester has tmt been a bad spc- Cipt:N.Er Stir .ay.—Yesterday one of the greatest meetings of the Nobil'ty, Clergr, at d Freeholders of the county of Surrey ever witnessed, took place in the town of Epsom, pursuant to r tion, to petition Parliament to adopt such measures a 4 would prevent any further proceedings against the Queen, and to press npon the attention of the Legislature. the existing distress of the country. The fleeting w appointed to be held in the Oreatßown of the Spread Eagle Inn. Epsom, but was adjourned to open ground. About one o'clock the High Sheriff entered the room accompanied by a great member of the Nobility anti (!entry of the County, among who:n we noticed Lords King, Duncannon, Ellenloorough anti Althurp ; Sir W. De Crespigny. the Honourable Mr. G. Bennet, Mr. Denison, Mr. Holme Sumner, Mr. Macdonald, the Hon. Mr. liouverie, &c. &c. (surd Ling en the Resolutions, which were seconded by Mr. Evelyn. Mr. Tr otter moved an amendment, which was sop ported by Lord Ellenhoronolo. The lion. C. Hennes, Mr. Moberly, Sir W. De Crespigny and Mr. Denison spoke ably in support of the Resolutions. Mr. H. Sumner next presented himself, and congrate.lated the Meeting upon the order with which its prteeedings• had been conducted, and himself upon his public con duct, which, with a single exception had uniformly met with the approbation of his Constituents. After he had concluded, a Freeholder, whose name was un., derstood to be Wild, addressed the Meeting from Ilse. . middle of the crowd, with much energy and consi ler able humour. lie arraigned the conduct of Mr. H. Sumner through the whole course of his pehlk ca reer. His attack upon the Queen, be said, was founded only upon hearsay ; and were be to resort to hearsay evidence, be assured the Meeting that. he heard a great deal to the disadvantage of the Honourable Uentleman (Loud and continued laughter.) Iltun SHIROr having requested all persons who wore nut freeholders to retire to a short distance, then put the amendment, which was negatived by an immense majority, there being only five or sift hands held up in its favour. The Resolutions were. then put and carried by a similar majority.—Mr.. Webb lVestern proposed the Petition founded upon the resolutions, which was seconded by Mr. Hare Townsend, and declared by the High Sheriff to be carried ulanin,usly, with the opposiSionof but one.— After the resolutions and petition bad been put anti carried, Mr. Macdonald rose to move the assembly to express their opinions on the conduct of their cons:l- Went., when the High Sheriff interrupted lien, and objected to the motion as not being in canformity with the letter or spirit of the requisition —Mr. Macdonald observed, that if the Meeting could not express directly their opinion of one of their run 'fitments they would internate it by their silence respect ing him ; and be therefore moved that the petition . be entrusted to the care of Mr. 'benison alone.— Mr. H. Sumner rewionstrawd at some length, but the motion was carried by peelers, ttion.—The meeting was dissolved about six o'clock. :•- . ~1 I ; 7 -