The Statesman. — London, England, 1820-11-06 00:00:00

yb e present is certainly not a time to observe yr s e xpressions ; but there was a passage in or speech of Earl finny, on Friday last, upon ~bic h we cannot avoid offering a yes,— few rematks ; j ot nothing ever falls from that distinguished Noble oi which is not important, and in general, highly serviceable to the illustrious cause he advocatgs. Ills L ,,d,bip, referring to the silly Parliamentary isbrase a mob and rabble," which is so often applied by the l ieforeted, to the intelligent part of the country, ex „ri,ed a wish, that Noble Lords would refrain from ~e as e of such language ; as it only tended to irritate tie middle classes, who were the wisest and most re -o,ectsble part of society. Such language, he said, asturally increase the distance, and widen the toa d, between those people and their natural poetta es : meaning, of course, the Members of rise said House of Lords. In hi s Lordships wish, e e b ar e no objection to join ; for such language loam effect whatever hut that of proving the igno woof its utterer, and exciting the pity of those to ,Aue it is applied. We have as little objection to fi.e distance between the higher ant the middle classes wee rreoeed ; yet, still without meaning any of ir„„, le think the former will be gainers by the col lision. ht if his Lordship really thinks that the Lo i s i m the protectors of the people, the sooner he fs stamina the better. No one doubts that it is the r eple who are the support of their Lordships; and %bother would be mere imbecility and insignificance aided it. But ne never heard before that the Peers ( 1 EoglatNl were the protectors of the people. How ever ore repeat, this is not a time for the indulgence pfjrsiou.y en either one side or the other ; and we solely novice his Lordship's observation, lest our si kerr sreulJ be understood as an admission of its justice. THE QUEEN. IFOVSE OF LORDS.—Tess Itoforum The Peers were called over immediately after Prayers, and the following list of defaulters will shew the im mense number of Noblemen who have incurred the penalty of being absent without excuse. Lords Rom Meanly, Bayning, Gwydir, Suffield, Rodney, Dade, Clinton and Deere; Viscounts Anson, Duncan and Fat month ; the Earls of Blessington, Cathcart, Harewood„ Craven, Egremont, Portsmouth, Wahlegrave, Thanet, Denbigh and Bridgewater ; the Marquesses of Exeter Ely, and Cornwallis ; and the Dukes of Newcastle, St. Albans, and Argyll. There was a general call for the Marquis of Lens , downe, and his Lordship accordingly rose. The Noble Marquess assured their Lordships be was not disposed to avail himself of their indulgence, by ad dressing them at any greater length than he originally intended. It was a satisfaction for him to know that after the very able manner in which the evidence had been commented upon by several of his Noble Friends who had preceded him, it was not necessary fur him to enter into that evidence in detail. He should chiefly confine himself to the principle of this proceeding, a consideration of which became important, not only with reference to this case, but as to its future effect. Before, however, he proceeded to discuss the princi ple, he should advert very shortly to a part of the evi dence upon which considerable stress had been laid lay the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, and by the Noble Earl opposite (Liverpool). Ile attended to the tent on board the imbrue. The circunistauces affecting the Queen in that part of the case were deposed to only by Majocelli, Sacchi, and Demont, fur even Paturzo the oailor, knew nothing of the fact whether Bergansi did I I Sr did nut sleep under the tent. (The Noble Marquis here referred to that part of the evidence.) But he would wish to draw the attention of their Lord ships to the evidence of Delimit. It any of their Lordships would refer to page 290, in the evidence of 1 Demont they would Lind in one particular place she swore that the Princess was undressed. Was it not quite plain, what inference that woman wished should be drawn from ! that statement ? Aud what impression she wished; should be produced on, their Lordships minds ? lint if they would look further, they tumid find that in ' 591, that when pressed on the subject, she was obliged.; with great reluctance, to acknowledge that the Princess was nut undressed, but that she had taken off no part of her dress, but her upper garment, which she used in riding. So that it must appear that the i effect of her former evidence was done away, and that the circumstance was introduced merely for the pur-1 poses of aggravation. There had been no impropriety' nor no indelicacy proved, and therefore the isferencesl on which some Noble Lords relied to prove the criminal intercourse, could not be legally drawn. Ile next wished to make some observations on a circumstance that had been much dwelt on of the English attendants baying all left the Princess at Naples. And a Noble I Lord under the gallery had selected an answer citrus by Siccard for that purpose. Ile believed tbere.was men in that House would say that Siecazghad not gives ' his testimony in a manner most creditable in him self—(Hear'.) But be prayed their Lordships attention' to the answer that had been selected for that purpose. Sheen' is asked how he came to leave the Princess at Naples? And he answered, the Princess left me. It was plain the inference the Noble Earl wished to draw. But if they would go a little farther, and see another answer given by Siccard—Did you propose to go to England, or did her Majesty desire you to go? ',suggested to her Majesty the necessity of my going to England. Now, with that answer on their mi nutes, could any man draw the inference, that the Princess sent away Siccard ? He stated the reasons of his going away; and the propriety of those reasons their Lordships would not question.—(llear, hear.) — But there was another inference drawn by another; Noble Lord, which lie said, made the most forcible impression on his mind, namely, the circumstance of Mr. ''raven haring warned the Prinesse against Bergatni. But if their Lordships were to take the fart in evidence, they should also! take the explanation. And what was the explanation Why that at that moment, be had information that there was a spy set over the Princess's conduct... 7 i (Loud cheers.)—These, therefore, are illegititnate in ferences. That part of the suite left the Prince-s Naples. But unless some of the persons are called W prove that that they left her in consequence of at 4 impropriety, their Lordships wete not warranted if' putting an unfavourable construction on it. Ile next alluded to the evidence of Barbara Krantz, and he DISCOVER)" SHIPS. (rCUTURR PARTUTLIMI.) Extract of a Letter from Aberdeen. Nov. 1. :—" We bare siurerephqsare in ronttnutticating to the relatives of those brace men who devoted themselves to the ser ene of their country on hoard the discovery ships, that after the perik of their long and arduous voyage, they are again within sight of their native land. The Herta omelet° oir Bay yesterday for provisions, and sailed is the afternoon for Leith roads. Her gallant and in commander, Captain Parry, accompanied by his istrearmar, came on shore at Peterhead, on Moisday, aid aml through here yesterday, to go by land to They parted with the tiriper in the North tie, and she Is expected up every hone. The Bola mutiatered a heavy gale after parting with the thi,on, and sustained sonic damage. Pew par tial:es of their highly interesting voyage have yet tram spited, the (sewers and crew of the vessel cont . g them tests to casual observations, until their commander doll have laid his Journal before the Lords of the Ad miralty. We nutletteamd that they wintered in latitude 7.5 N; a,. I in their attempts to explore a passage to the Western Ocean, were as far as 1b I W. They wintered in a snug hay, in Lancaster Sound ; and tad not get clear of the ice till the sth August this year. From October till February, or foe abort Viindays, Sheyenne is darkness; but with abundance of wholesome pro visions, and other requisite comforts, they passed the time very agreeably. The crew were amused with games of every kind ; and occasionally acted plays for mutual entertainment. As to the main object of the expedition, the discovery of a North West Passage, we cannot yet speak with mach confidence. One of the officers with whom we have conversed entertains not the least doubt upon the subject; hut we must wait for Lieut. Parry's observations before We pronounce with certainty. The cocnter will look with great ausiery fur the publican' of the . Journal of 'his voyage. They have been out fin about eighteen months, having saile d from Sheerness on the Igth May, 1:419." From the notification of Lieutenant Parry's arrival at the Admiralty, and a dispatch transmitted . by a whaler no the:lth of September. which we have inserted from last Satur,lay's Lwrrlie, it will be seen that the Heels gad Grip-:, in the slimmer of Isl 9, discovered a passage nuough Lancaster Sound into the Polar Sea, and pene trated a , ;"ir as 1124 W. long. between the parallals of ;land 75 deg. N. lat. They passed the winter in 74, 47. N. le. and 110. 47. W. long. with the loss of one man only. They resumed the objects of the voyage this year as sons as the season permitted, and attempted to penetrate through the ice towards Behring's Straits, in two directions, but without effect.—lt being then doubt ful whether their stock of provisions would hold out for arrither wintef, it was resolved to return to linkland, after mall'.og a survey of the west coast of Ihvis's Strait. In (Impenitence of the ships haying reached so far to the westward 'as the longitude of the Copper Mine River, the officers and reeves 1:: come entitled to a re wzrd of 500/. by Act of Parliament. _ . . Kte; az.—The Conventioa nutlet. which General prayed their Lordships attention to some cird Purroan Pe:e entered raleraho on the 6th alt., has emnstances connected with her testimony. All been declared null and void by the Parliameot at Ns- she swore that could at all reflect on the Queen, 1, pl., Tie Neapolitan tioyernnwnt and Parliament was a mere probability. She swore that she I still not listen t o Jo y pr o po.ition having for its object saw a female with • Bergami. But she might i the indepen lessee of Sicily. General Pepe has in con- have been deceived. For that female might as well have I sequence been retailed, and General Coletta appointed been the Countess Oldi as the Princess. But she also t:, the command, *to, at the slat. of the last accounts swore that she came there voluntarily, while their Lord- I from Naples, the 19th ultimo, was about to sat sail ships' bad in evidence that she was examined by th e 1 t r Sicily with a corps of 6,000 Calabrese troops. Minister at Baden, whether there was nothing to which kr the parpose of ensuring the unconditional submit's- she could depose against the Princess.—(Hear, bear D sion of the inhabitants of Palermo. Bat there was a power exercised to make Barbara Krantz 1 During the day on which Palermo was attacked, the avert „„ e , fling dreadful. The sinehee et. to alms to Englaad; and that same power was exercised was very c inshlerahle. The firing from the Palermo to keep witnesses back on the part of her Majesty.— batteries aa I ;:un boats has done great injury to the (Load cheer.4.)—Some Noble Lords had said with a palaces o f prince Cuto and Prince e aro li cn. Th e great appearance of candour, that they would dismiss public gardens and the botanical gardens, are nearly the case at Trieste. In justice to her Majesty they should destroyed; io fact, the scene of devastation over about not dismiss that case, nor any other case where snch pal tl.ree square miles of the adjoining country, is de- pable falsehood appeared. If their Lordships believed that plcerahle in the extreme. The people fought with the there was an extensive machinery at work, an eaten greatest der.perition. Had they unfortsnasely gut the sive system to prove evidence, and that even *foreign better of the troops, which they bad every chance of hlinister had undertaken that Ameorraik employment, doing or. the 27th, the consequences to Palermo would —(beer, hear!) —and that many persons came fee have been dreadful, as the populace were easels ex- ward voluntarily, merely fur the purpose of truth and asperate.l against the nobility and all the respectable morality-, bat at the rare time Is conserputler of that people, for bring favourable to the Neapolitan troops system, and that they believed considerable suspicion entering the city as friends. boil bet* created against the Princess, be teratid ark It is stated in the Morning Papers from aatboeity, their Lordships ithether they ware sot bound to look that it is her Majesty's intention to go to the Moan to. dm .prolsabllity that a Alispositios m*lst haute es;• of Lords to-marrow morning. 1 I s is{ p k ytate % bst which tree sot. troe,44 . ldso testate Her Majesty has fixed Monday, the ISA ti*.. ter fillat which. did abt stioeit of imbvaletioal--.. receiving such addresses as may be than 164 fell {Hear.) There iras :Wallet. Ch 113111141111“ WWI he preientation. `e mild not emit. Their Lorirkips had bees called 11 4- 1 E STATESAIAN. on, to draw a comparion between the evidence of Dr moat and Majocchi, and the testimony given by Flynn and -HoWnam, they had been told they were all on a level, but he wished to state, that some distinction should be made between persons who could not recollect what actually did exist, and those who remembered what never did exist. lie now came to consider the character of the measure. And he was far from thinking that their Lordships may not consider it at this period in all its bearings and operations. He was pre pared, to contend not only that they may, but that they ought so to do as men, as legislators, and as patriots. The Noble Earl opposite (Lord Liverpool) had spoken of this Bill of Pains and Penalties, and was sup ported in the same opinion by a Noble Lord on the cross bench, (Lord Redsdale,) and asked *hat was it after all but a common divorce cause? The Learnid persons who had sat there forthe purpose of directing their Lordship's course, as far as was practicable, ac cording to legal forms, had advised the appointment of a Committee to search their Lordships journals—for what ? For divorce causes ? No. For Bills of Pains and Penalties.—(Hear, hear, bear !)--They went further and advised that Dills of Divorce should be excluded from that search. (Hear, hear.) And no* the Noble Earl :lading that all the weight of a Bill or Pains and Penalties was bearing upon the head of an Illus trious Individual, turned round to say, "this was not a Bill of Pains and Penalties, hut of divorce."— The Noble Marquis theu explained the difference be tween the two measures, and contended that her Ma jesty was enduring the hardships of one, without hay jug experienced the advanteces of the other. A Bill of yains and Penalties it was and must be. Distin ruisl►ed only fruu► all other hills of Pains and Penal ties by this--that its consequences would be of a more dreadful nature to the illustrious individual against whom it was to operate. 'The measure itself was most unpopular. Unpopular not only amongst the rabble as a Noble Lord had gtatrd—amongst that rabble who t could not understand the nature of such a measure— but unpopular amongst that respectable class of the co tttttt unity whose well regulated minds and opinions formed the standard of the moral character of the country. The generation it' which they lived, bad the good fortune to be instructed by the greatest non upon these subjects. There were few who heard him then who had not possessed the advantages of being in structed in their youth by the writings of Blackstone and Paley. By Blackstone on the laws and constitu tion of the country, and by Paley on the doctrines of morality. If then they found Blackstone condemning the very 'suture of such proceedings, and if they found Paley holding out stills of Pains and Penalties as meat sures always to be avoided, as anomalies hardly ever taking plate without being attended with the worst of consequences to morality, they ought to look at the effect which they were likely to produce. They were bound as legislator: to consider the effect If hich this case would have upon the people for whom they legislated. It remold not be sufficiently im pressed upon their Lordships' minds that they were alma to pass a Itw, and not a sentence ;—that there was a supposed expediency and public utility in passing this law and that, like all other laws. it would have to find its own way and profs it/ own utility. Public opinion never would be satisfied that it was either founded upon expediency or calcu lated to produce utility. It was a most violent appli cation of a most violent measure, founded only upon presumption. Upon the presumption that live years ago, the Princess of Wales was reposing, in the middle of the day, under an awning with Bergami, in a situation where adultery might have been com mitted ; and, arising out of that supposed adultery, public scandal eli.lionoar had been brought upon this country. Public scandal in the eyes of whom ? In the eyes of tiargetilo and Paturzo.—(Hear.)—They were the representatives c f Rierope,(llear and laughing.) --They were to j lest i fy the pompous preamble of the Bill in whirls the Princess of Wales WAS declared to have scan tiali zed and dishonoured this country in the eyes of the world. Anti when it came to be proved in whose eyes,tHey could get no eyes, no persons but liargnilo and Paturro. (Laugleing.)---Rven they had consented to keep this sense of dishonour and degradation to themselves until they came before the Milan Commission. The Milan Commission then brought it to the Bar °fillet House, and thus it was published to the world. If in six months after the voyage, any one had asked the virtuosi, mo dest Captain, or this puling mate, what, in their opinion, had most degraded the character of the English nation, in the conduct of the Princess, they would have said, I". her not giving so large a burro pinto as they Wspeeted."--(Lood and continued laughing.)--- 4 perseverance in this measure would afford an op portunity for any person, whether actuated by a good, a had, or a mean motive to prefer similar charges against wiser illustrious individuals who had no more right to *the succession than her Majesty ; for their Lordships ironld not forget, that all the members of the Royal Fe linity derived their right of succession from the Act of Settlement. I f clearers of such a nature werebrougbt from a bad motive, it would not be difficult to snpport them by evidence, for Mltjocchi's, and Sacchi's, and Denton'', were to be found in eve ry age, and every coun ire. He begged their Lordships to look at the peeve dent they were called upon to establish. They were asked to pronounce that her Majesty bad three years ago conductoLheiself in ',manner, disgraceful to the country, and that lest she should continue in sash couilnet, it would be dangerous to suffer her to sit on the Throne-. If their Lordships once did thie--if they once established this precedent, the hionor• shy •of thii' toontry would become elective•se. (Here there *were some confused murmur, hi the House). They might startle at the term hot het i would repeat it, that if they established this preeeallit there was as end to the hereditary monarchy of this osaatry. An enquiry into the personal conduct ist fib Bowl:reign anti dethronement upon such an impiry, lotaille to fact, the abolition of hereditary, aaii the, itilethotiou of elective : oiewarchy. hleortlitaty AttTair is:as handed. Ojes.prisciples exclusive of Mal ' a proceeding ud, pesos!. That species of mots: sell ptesoseithe passeshl viaduct of the Soveselfs Ulf frehfettly loiseerial. It sapwood that her was 1 00 sjitti4l4lolll /VI ..(.guards; and by the resPIPNMPI". leis et his 'Mews that his own possess!' weadatt could not poadhly ban a dangerous Whew& spas society, Love sight he world say, of *it pttstlple, and their Lordships would desti of hereditary niooachy. Conlii by any one that any circustatin justify their encountering such mentioned ? He would ships a very little longer. Nob), Lords who did not wit and yet flattered themselves that second reading they would be abl future stage. Each looked with own favourite means of swept which he had lironelit himself. if 'hay adopted tills effspring of men , . they might disfigure it afterward , to as to snake it in erect their ow:- assisted at the birth of this measure. happy to alter 1 its funeral.—(A imprat icab!e he assured them. were, expedient.. If their Lordships looked various means ss bids had been sug , mentors., after a second reading t them impracticable and visionary . Lords, the suggrstors of these expedi by altering- the Preamlite of would be avi•omplished. But amble would not alleviate if those Noble Lords thought that Ffivort-e Clause worilii be an all' them that it was nut only an aggravation of the ptsnishutent.- I t would be an incunsistency by jetty was pollntcd, was guilty conduct, and yet that she was the wife of tit* King. W hat the Queen, and what the advanta l such a measure ? The state won from her situation as Queen, and with all the liabilities, and none e. a wile. Sbe would not have the voter] wife, and she would be exposed with which a King of England wife. In fact, thus altering the declare the guilt leer, and yet ' went. This would he the ex' 'Lordships, in their great wisdi he trusted that a very slight would induce them to pause befoi measure which would he produt chief, and would necessarily form dent hereafter. A very few hour ther their Lordships would, nience of this measure lying before the obvious mischiefs attendin elate it Was a part of our Constit ',al conduct of the sovereign dethronement. Against such his decided protest, and upon as well as those he had 'tread: pose the present Bill. Lord MANNERS explained. part of the speech of the Noble belief that he had mit-stated If ship .red. the &Metre . 6T cantlese he had given her Majesi expresled his sorrow that any had trils.stated the evidence. The Mistiness of LANSINY had no wish to cast an impittat and hoped be knew him better slide he would intentionally do The F.arl of LIVERPOOL planation. His argument was, sere was not different in effect' The Earl ef LAUDER DA his Lordship ptoeeeded to ans' some of the Noble LUrds who was interrupted by Earl UREY, who called his The Noble Earl, lie conceived, second speech. The Earl of LAI:PERI/AUK in order, and proceeded at some confusion cussed, and the ' tided that the Noble Earl wa• Yeud explanation. The Earl I I down. • A number of Peers rose at or noise took place from the desir Peer that he should be heard The LORD CHANCELLOi favour of The Duke of NORTHUMBI the gallery. Ile declared that consideration of all the circemstances. to say, tbat in his opinion, the was folly proved, and he therefore nnless so►ne minor course which her pernicious influence this " chaste and moral rountr DR CRY-LANE The Beggar's Opera was per' on Satardsy, in a style which tication to the lovers of the general observation, however, A Lady made a first appeam Polls, and; as 'we art inclined dissalm her witiolt another r lint to appear again. slits Pof PM, this eveniog, Madame V Mereeptli ; and whether. she point of view by nodi•rtakinic. loggia to be the'best jodge. tertsil had ever beett inclined to. raise tare, the enchantmeat of her once. have Wend the spirit of never more delighted. than wit Ting the differmK airs allotted tretly what ire • had always ~ !toned melodies Of the composer, the ttioderectraslrformed of the sower leadingß pubic vitlie!p b, sterling musk- is etwithietly ilesegaihsle the ttoevt,.4lmperfe,r, 404. - Ins it the irittliele • MK Aillefinier o;77ip: thrilirvhbeikb:Lei r: genthinet,o Measure. Nov., illnesiontioliihily fell 'cit dews mitwaiio . sed the prices of good melee poen. bet that 4 inferior Hat Illaastay.—The above IP Is bet steatite price..!--Strew • droy the main principle 3 it be s.iid ur supposed I Mures whatever could itch a risk as he had trouble their Lord- . There were many wish this Bill to pass, hat by sending it to a able to get rid of it in a h a parent's eye on his i # e from the difficulty in Some again thought f the wisdom of Govern:- terwards as they pleased, wn ; and others who had sure, ttould now be eery t laugh.) But rain and erre all their subordinate ooked attentively at the uggested of cscal.ing this r they would timid all of y. Perhaps those Noble txpedients, thonght, rf the Pill, the object an alter-lion of the Pre the punishment, and hat the sittikinr out the Ileeiation, lie would tcli n inconsistency- but an .—(rear, hear, y declaring that her Ma , of the motet dirgesting I not unworthy of being was the consolation to image to the country by r would Lave removed bur Id she nenid yet retnaits ne of the advantages of the protection tine to a osed to all the severity nJ caa legally visit his le preamble would be to t m iii, t a greater punish- rpedictit to whit+ their dune, would resort ; and lit degree of reflection fore they derided upon a duetire of preset,t mis- orm a dangerous prece- ionrs would tletiJe wirer with all the iiiconve- before them, and with aU ig such a precedent, tie- ; stitntion, that the pers.- afforded a ground for a principle he entered n that view of the case. . dy stated, he should op- • . - • J. Ile conceived that a ble Marquess implied a the et idence., . His Lard- . l Craven respeetirg the *sty, and the Nt,ble Lord ty one should suppose he tOWNE explained. He mince on the Noble Lord, # o• than to suppose it roe- • o so. 1 .., said a few words in ex- as, that the pa cscitt mea- t from a Divorce Bill . ,LE rose to explain. but • nswer the arguments of • had preceded him. He ri its Lordship to Order.— was, in fact, making a • LE contended that he was ume length, when mush Lord Chancellor de- 'as going " a be- I of Lauderdale then sat 4, once to spe%, and much tire of the friends of each I. JR at length decided in BELAND who spoke from it after the most impartial nstances, he was compelled he ease against the Queen erefore should . support the • le could be suggested by 'e might be remote-I front - try." TIIKATRE. wrformed at this Theatre I I t afforded the highest grati- musical drama. To this r. there is one exception. anee in the character of dto be charitable, we win :411 word, saving. that she. is 'ace., takes her place as was the Captain 4 e suffers in any particular 4 4 . ng such a character, she eirtain we are, that if we se an objection of that na- rr sweet .sounds would, at of dissatisfaction. .114 were Ai the styk in which she dto the part. It was per- Wished. Tire simple and mune!, uphattliwilleig with the errentplatetl fancies of bf oar; T o ot old • , /111 . 14 aftc.de Katull.sh trtirtaito.lt Moir • .siospis't Ake pewees**, rase yesterday. above rotrikt rattle good Meat ,insi last r krior was lower in prce. r Market remains the SLIM r and Cloter no alteration. . . • - • . •