The Statesman. — London, England, 1815-02-14 00:00:00

I I 1 ;'ILf TIIE STATF_SMAN. to the disbat.ding of the Militia moved foe. 11, jaord . I were not presented till May, and it should become Congress, was but too well kn o wn to those w h o be l on g ed to her before that convulsion whi ch sheA Grenville. necessary to move for any additional papers, it wait had any opportunity of information, as well as to the whole of Europe. But she had seized on V v . JURY TR; al. 1N SCOTLAND. impossible that they could be laid before the House those who are suffering. In that country, after a nice, on Lucca, and on the Milanese, befor e 1 1, e Earl STANHOPIe.—On the last day of last Ses- , until late in the Session, when the pressure of busi- pompous promise, but a short time since of este- proper- time : and let it be remembered, th at it. sion, he had heard a most able and eloquent speech ',esti; and the anxiety of Members to get out of blishing Italian independence, such scenes were were paying our contingent by supporting { 75, m() from the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, ' town, prevented them from having that full conside- acting, as must revolt the feelings of every man who •troops on the Continent, for the protection and d e . on •he subject of introducing Trial by Jury in civil I ration to which they were entitled. had any regard for humanity, justice, and truth.— fence of States, not for their annihilation end d:s. Cases into )'cotland, and he (Stanhope) then gave : 'the CHANCELLOR Of ' the EXCHEQUER Yes, Italian independence was exhibited on the mernberment. Austria had taken possessiutt of th ose notice othialutentinns to bring in a Bill this Session : thought that the [tight Hon. Gentleman had not re- standards, and promulgated in the Proclamations of countries which never did nor never could rightfully to that effect; but then came a most extraordinary ?collected accurately w hat bad fallen from him in a our Commander upon his first entrance into that belong to her. And what was her conduct in them? proceeding, for immediately before the holidays in l former Conversation. The objection which he had country. By such means, Lord Wm. Bentincle en- ' They were harassed by exactions, by imposts, and the present Session, the Noble and Learned Lord , made was merely retrospectite. He had no objet- deavoured to excite the Italian people to co-operate arrests. These were the first practical results of brought in a Bill of this sort himself. To be sore it i lion, however, to present the accounts of the last against the late Governor of France.—[Here the those fine winds which' the Allied Sovereigns had had not the sanction of the Noble and lAarned ! year at an earlier period; ane he -believed that they Honourable Gentleman read to House the Prods- . put forth at Paris : this stag the fruit of that tre e of Lord's authority. It had been sent up from Scotland would be kid before the House much sooner than mation of Lord Wm. Beistinck, dated March 14, salvation which was to replace the free of Wines, from those who clearly showed that they did not an- : the sth of April. The Right lion. Gent. would t 1811, and issued upon his landing in Tuscany.]— Austria was detested throughout the whole of Italy ; derstand this subject. His first objection to it was, . therefore have plenty of time to consider the ac. This Proclamation invited the Itilians to arms, and she had al ways been disliked ; she was now t v , t , i i , that it was optional to have a Jury Trial or not ; counts, or move what additional papers he might strongly exhorted the Italian army to co-operate because she was now more severe, arbit r a ry , and a second objection was, that the Jury was con- think proper. for the recovery of their rights, by shaking off a and oppres s ive.- —She had arrested persons tined to the facts, instead of being allowed to give a i Mr. TIERNEY then said, that if the papers foreign yoke, and for the re-establishment of their whom she had on power or authority to bring to general verdict as they did in England, unless they . were presented before the end of March, he would national independence, which alone our Commander trial ; and exercised a degree of jealous vigilance wished to relieve themselves from deciding on the 'ip - quite content. professed to have in view, and to which he pledged more odious than tie Inquisition itself. Such had law by giving a special verdict : and yet, though the 1 PORTUGUESE EMBASSY. the good faith of Great Britain, referring for the been the conduct of Austria in Italy ; and he hoped, • Jury was only to decide on the facts, there was a i As the Chairman of the Committee was putting support of that faith to the examples of our con- against such*conductf every power in Europe, where provision, that the Judge should direct and instruct the question for agreeing to the former Resolution, duct towards Portugal, Spain, Sicily, and Holland. liberty of opinion existed, as, thank God, it still them es to the law. He agreed that this mode of : Mr. WHITBREAD rose to ask a question which But how was this pompous profession acted upon ? did here, would protest. It was a most wicked and trial should be introduced gradually; and he meant he conceived to be connected with those Civil List How was the word of promise kept to the Italians ? a most disgraceful policy; and notwithstanding what by this, that the Jury should give special verdicts, Accounts. He wished to know whether, in addi. i —The lion. Member then adverted to a Proclama- had happened to Saxony, and to Genoa, he trusted unless the pieties, the Judge, and Jury were willing lion to the expenses of the embassy at Lisbon, it was! tion issued by Lord W. Bentinck, when he took there was still enough of British feeling in the Cabi. that the verdict should be general. it was an hook • now intended to send a Secretary of Legation with a , possession of Genoa in April 1814, in which, among net of this country, even constituted as it was, to to the people of Scotland to say that they were not ' salary of 12001. a-year I • 1 other things, the Genoese were promised that their interpose in the behalf of those unhappy persons, a as competent to decide in this way as in England.— ! The CHANCELLOR , of the EXCHEQUER : ancient Constitution should be restored to them. if duty which he earnestly implored them to perform. 'The people of Scotland were far mole enlightened : could not give any answer to the Honourable Gen.: ever there was a declaration issued by one country, There were other subjects also, connected with the than the people of England, generally speaking; tleman. i which pledged it to the maintenance of the fade- proceedings of Congress to which he wished to C ana why should they not be competent to do that' Mr. WHITBREAD then asked, was there ally . pendence of another, it was that which he had now lude. Before the recess he had asked some questions which bed been done in England time out of . ether Member of his Majesty's Government present, : alluded to. But what were the facts as they had respecting Belgium. Ministers now knew the stale mind ? Ile wished now to have his Bill read a that could give an answer ? To many questions that ' actually occurred ? The sth of January, 1815, was .of the fortresses and defences of that country. Were first time, merely for the purpose of having it - were put to them, it was true that they might plead the day fixed for restoring the Genoese to all those we to he at the expence of putting them i n to repair; printed. 'an ignoramus but as this was a matter of pretty Constitutional rights and privileges of which they as wdias of colip e leting another absurd plan he ha i l The Earl of LAUDERDALE thought it irre.. general notoriety, he did not see how they could had so long been deprived ; but a few days previously heard of, that of erecting entrenched camps in the Kolar to bring in a new Bill when there was already plead ignoramus to this. It had been generally re- to that date, they were informed by a special mes- ,' intermediate spaces ? Its his opinion, the better nay before the House a Bill having the same object in ' ported that a Lord of the Admiralty had been ap. senger, who was sent from Congress with the black I to secure Belgium, would be to give the people sane. view. , pointed Secretary of Legation, or Secretary to the and inhuman declaration, that they were not to be , thing like a Constitution and a Government to fight Earl STANIIOPE was sorry to find the Noble : Embassy at Lisbon, with a salary of 12001. a.year. independent, that all the declarations made by the i for, and there would then be no occasion for those Earl hostile to the Trial by Jury, which he could He wished to know whether this was the fact or not ? 'Allied Powers at Paris were hollow and superficial,' fortresses and camps. In all times, those devoted hardly have expected. The object of the two Bills 1 There was no answer from the Ministerial and that they were to be the first victims at that! countries had been the arena in which the great was completely different; the one was to introduce Benches. shrine of spoliation and dismemberment, which those Powers of the Continent had contended; but now the Trial by Jury into Scotland, and the other was Mr. PONSONBY was at a loss to know what the Powers had erected. On the 28th of December Ge. i was the moment, if they were to be permanently merely a proposition to-try issues by a Jury. ' Com m ittee were to u nderstand by this silence on the Herat Dalrymple, who commanded at Genoa, an- Dutch, to make them strong by giving theme, cons& The LORD CHANCELLOR could have wished part of Ministers ? Were they to infer that no such flounced the same melancholy fact. No pretence,' tutional liberty, which would secure them better the Noble, and he might say Learned, Lord to post-' thing had taken place, or was in contemplation ? not even the shadow of one, was offered for these' than artificial defences, and without which they pone the introduction of hie Bill. It certainly would' The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proceedings. Unlike, in that, the conduct of re.' would, in a few years become the scene of invasion. be necessary to introduce some alterations into the replied, that the C o mmittee could only infer that a volutionary France, whose principles the Allied So.! lie knew not whether what he had said would cell Bill, which he (the Lord Chancellor) had laid on the question had been put to him, which he was not pre. vereigns seemed to be emulous of imitating. France, ; forth any reply from the Ministers ; he did not anti table before the recess. Ile would make those at. i pared to answer. i when she seized upon any State, et least endeavoured , cipate that it would ; but if what he had asserted, re teratious himself, as it by no means pleased him in its . The Bill then went through the Committee, and to paliate or justify her conduct, by telling the mained uncontradicted, he should continue to believe present shape. Let the Noble Earl hear it with the report was ordered to be brought up to- people she invaded, that their Government was cor- ' his information correct, and in the eyes of the world, those amendments, and then there would probably ; i morrow. rupr, that they groaned beneath the yoke of tyranny,' they, themselves, would he considered as adopting bi less difficulty in attaining one common object, l The Committee oil the Bank. Restriction Bill was l and that she came, in the spirit of fraternity, to it.—[ilear, hear, from the Ministerial Benches!) than by baying two Bills going through the House at postponed till Thursday. : liberate them from heir thraldom. There was cer. ; The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER the nine time. CONGRESS OF VIENNA. faintly no fraternity in the conduct of the Allied said, that he should not presume to determine with FArl STANHOPE consented to withdraw his Bill. On the question of reading the Order, for the Powers towards Genoa, but he supposed it might be i what degree • of propriety or justice the Honourable tord GRENVILLE gave notice of a motion for purpose of postponing the Committee of Supply till thought not inconsistent with fraternity. In the Gentleman had thus brought forward a charge against Friday, for information respecting the number of Wednesday, Proclamation which General Dalrymple put forth,' an individual who was absent: he would leave that foreign troops in British pay on the Continent. Mr. WHITBREAD said, that notwithstanding : he did not attempt to tell the Genoese that their Go- , to floe feelings of the House; all he should way upon Earl razwli.l.lAM postponed till Wednesday the apparent resolution of the Gentlemen who repre- , revetment was a bad one, or that they were unhappy it was p that he believed such a course to lie utterly no. his motion on the subject of disbanding the Militia. sented the Administration in that Noose, to meintaktiskander it. No on the contrary, he dwelt upon its known in Parliament [hear, hear .9. The Honour. Adjourned. their dignity, to evince their discretion, or to cone! excellence, and commended the regular and correct able Gentleman said, he did not anticipate an answer coal their ignorance, by a pertinacious silence re.: behaviour- of the inhabitants, end yet, coupled to his Speech, and in that he certainly would not be HOUSE OF COMMONS. specting the proceedings of Congress—riot with.' with that admission, they were told that they had 'disappointed, as he should abstain from making any Mr. TIVRST grive notice, that he should on Wednesday move standing the declared purpose of the Chancellor of been consigned over to the Crown of Sardinia. reply whatever, satisfied that they were questions fir leave to bring in a Bill to extend the salaries of the Chap- the Exchequer not to answer any question upon that —Was there ever any conduct so disgraceful i which ought not now to be discussed. bias to the county prisons. . subject, till the return of our negociator, by whom and unfeeling ? And under what authority did . W. W. DUNDAS brought np a Petition from the Nlagis- . Mr. PONSONBY contended that the Right trines and Intinbitans of filussabargit, praying the Abolition that Right Hon. Gent. promised that a most satis- General Dalrymple act ? By the orders of his Honourable Gentleman could not be ignorant about of the Slave Trade. I factory explanation %soukd be given upon all possible Royal Highness the Prince Regent. lie wished, certain facts which had been mentioned by his Ike .Petitions against die Property Tax were presented from New i. • • . still . ,_ • Sarum, Blaorlford, I.udlow, I pswic h . the City of London, the I topics, ire tnougnt his it duty to call the attention to see the detestable mandate that thus em offered Friend, t h oug h h e might not choose to say any thing Ward of Corahill, Kingsten, Dartford. Reygate. Guildford, the •of the House to this very interesting subject. Still General Dalrymple ; he wished to know in what upon them; and if so, would not every one conclude 14"timete and T rader' of Br i n°l l t he Ci t y o f G l° ll eintee• and he felt it expedient to trace the conduct and march words it was couched ; he wished to know by whom the town°, Forfar. of our that he could not contradict and could not j ostify them. Petitions io favour of an alteration in the Corn Laws werenegotiator, upon points of vital importance the Prince Regent had been advised to issue an order Was the paper issue] by General Dalrymple authen ;warmed from the landholders in the neighbourhood of Croy- to the honour and interest of this country—to the for overthrowing the independence of an ancient ' . don, the landowners in the county of Huntingdon, the county general repose and future security of Europe. That and a free State; and by whom it was signed. After he or n ot ? Was it true that the transfer of Genoa to or Berks , nod the county of Bedford. Sardinia wet with the sanction of this country 3 Mr. An itecautit was presented of the weekly amount of Fauk- this negotiator had, in concert with our Allies, en- the disclosure of facts like those, Ministers might, • Speaker, continued the Right Honourable Gentle notes in circulation during the last year i Waist. an account of gaged in the unholy Congress at Vienna, departed if they pleased, continua in their threatened silence ; the number of stamped dollars and silser tokens, from the Ist . . . . man, I wish you would cast your eyes upon that altogether in practice from the principles which they they might still wait till the return of Lord Castle. :Werth, 181 E to the Ist of Pebrualy, 18;3. Those account; bench and say radict what has been if there is a single person sittin there were ordered to lie on the table. not long since so loudly and so proudly professed, reagh, and the House might be forced to wait for the ' who dares cont A Copy was presented of an Order in Council, aothorinio", he had no hesitation in asserting ; for there was al- same event, before it could know whether there was asserted ? g oad if the issue of Specie by the Bank of England, up to the ainooto you do cast your eyes upon them, I should be glad to wrier/i t as also of an Order in Couneil declaring 111 P port of ready but too much evidence before the world to jut- such a document in the Foreign Office; but he would know what your emotions are,—whether you most Liverpool to be a port fur warehousing goods imported front . !Hy the charge—a concurrence of well-founded in- venture to affirm that not all the Powers on earth iodic p ity or condemn them ? [hear, and laughter.]—He P formation from various parts of Europe, left, un- assembled in Congress had the legitimate r i g h t to Lord A. HAMILTON postponed tin Thursday, his notice, bad nothing more to say [a laugh ;]—the transactions which wood fur Tuesday, for ti Committee to comader tneotrairs fortunately, no doubt of this fact. The unjust de. place Ceisoa under the dominion of Sardinia ; and he be et: tae Barra. sign upon Saxony was now matter of indisputable hoped the people of the world would assert their beggared all description ; and he was sure there was - The Report of the Committee oe the Malta trade was brought not a mats in the kingdom that ever eipected to see up, and the Resolutions agreed to. ; notoriety •; and the authenticity of Prince R e n i nes ; rights against a combination of usurping Powers, , as , the name of England so disgraced. SIR JAMES pure. I Proclamation at Dresden, transferring that country ! they had lately successfully done against a single Mr. GOVLBURN moved an Address to the Paiute Re- to the dominion of Prussia, could be no longer ques. ; Power which aimed at universal dominion. He was ! Mr. WHITBREAD, in reply to the Chancellor Re gent fora Copy of the Coriesposidenee helm eon Sir Janes DoW of the Exchequer, said that he had charged Lord and Lord Bathurst, respecting some pers..us arrested at Gib- "e • astonished howthe word guarant ee lobar. known in the country, it would be recollected that . its way into sucha Proclamation as General Dal- Castlereagh as a Member of the Govrnmennt— Alr. WHITBREAD said, that the charge against Sir James the well-informed Minister of that House expressed . rymple's, when it was, in itself, the grossest viola. [Hear, hear!]—And the Government who sent out Duir went mock farther than this. Ile was charged u i;h having such directions to him ought to be arraigned before summoned the Captains of British trading vegans :It Undil, and doubts upon the subject, although it was now aster- tion of a guarantee that had ever occurred. Now, those things elects he had stated t r ue or fal s e ? .the tribunal of the world. He arraigned them offend snde thew give an oath that they world mot take any Spanish rained that our Noble Negotiator had actually put his were subjects in their ses•.els. • • ' signature to a paper authorising the transfer of Saxony ' Would the Ministers deny them? Would they show mg out contradictory instructions to Lord Castle ate. GOLBUIIN thought that the Tiononrable Gentle- reagh—as being a party to the spoliation of Saxony— • email wo uld Sad in the Puree, all the intOrmatiou which he I to Prussia, and of course sanctioning the Proclamation , the order that had been sent out ;or would they wished for. •of Prince Repnin. Nay, although the Right Hon. ', shelter themselves in silence, and not presume to as . a party to the dismemberment of Italy. Mr. WiturBREAD observed , that the lion. Gent. had hem i The lion. Member was proceeding to touch upon absent one business which he eengratalaied bile on ending so I Gent. expressed his disbelief, or even horror at the offer a defence of a transaction, which, on the face ~ . some other topics, well—the Nestseintiuns at Chem , own be first mentioned this idea that any English Minister should assent to Iliseh.: of it, looked so odious, so abominable, and so dis- when he was called to order; and business in the House. His principal charge against Sir James . e eeessire, our Negoehrtor Was actually a party tiai.guating ? Let them do so if they close. Theirs the Speaker reminded him that he could enter only r Ha was for endeavouring to prevent the es c ape of Spanish .r "' into an ex - planation. - - -- --•-- --- subjects from the power of their must iugoisitorial sad detesta. , it. For this proceeding, however, it would appear; I would be the shame ; and perhaps it was less shame- We Government. ' that either our Negociator had not the authority of l ', less not to attempt a defence; silence would be their ' Lord PROBY rose to reduest 'tome information Sir. GOULBURN still thong,ht, that the Hon. Gent , et told i. upon n subject which had come to his knowledge. — Ind all the Information that he n i•hed for in the Papers which ,Ms Government, or that, in consequence of the pub. I only palliative. But what was likely to he the effect t Ile had been informed that there were British Offi• had I.etm moved. I tic feeling ezcited by the transaction, that Government i o f that conduct in Italy ? The Genoese received the 'the motion was then agreed to. • was impelled to change his instructions ; and accoed.l intelligence of their degradation in that way which cars still serving in the Spanish armies; and, he The .limattl ludemnity Bill was read a first time, and ordered feared aiing by theireituation, in, the prolongation to be read a second time to-morrow. ingly the Noble Lord was directed to present a Pro. I most strongly marked their feelings, according to d Cleft. I.l"iT. 1 test against theannetation of Saxony to Prussia. But' those who best understand the Italian character. No of those measures of the Spanish Government vehicle On the motion of Mr. RANKES I the House went i whether the Noble Lord acted without instructions exclamations, no menaces, no indignation escaped had been so generally reprobated. He was'arisiaaa into a Committee on this Bill. its the first instance, or received contradictory in. , them ; they heard their fate in silence—a silence to know whether the fact was so, and whether they Mr. BANKES stated, that his principal object was 1 'tractions afterwards, it so happened that Saxony , which proved that they only waited for the opportu - were receiving British pa y under a ny den t s venation? that the Civil List Accounts should he made up to ! was still in the possession of Prussia. Ile did not; nity of avenging themselves, and he sincerely hoped The CHANCELLCIa of the Excimquelt the sth of January, instead of the sth of April. presume to ask any explanation upon this subject, they would be able to do so. The conduct of Austria said there would be no objection to granting the i 9. Mr. TIERNEY said, that this had been originally nor did he expect any. But the case was before the! in Italy had been most extraordinary. She took formation required by the Noble Lord, if he %mill brought forward by him as a motion, which the 1 country and Europe, which would decide upon its ! possession of (hat country conditionally, in conse- move for it. He believed there were a few Britie , Honourable Gentleman now thought it necessary to i merits and upon the pri n ciples of those with whom . quence of a stipulation entered into with the late Officers still serving its the Spanish armies. bring forward in the shape o f a thil. 'flue Chancel, it originated; upon whose conduct in fact it was im.! Viceroy; a person now spoken of with enthusiasm ' Lord PROBY shortly after moved for a Retati for of the Exchequer, on a former occasion, stated, 1 reflect, possible to without astonishment and indite. iby all classes of Italians, as one whose character for of the names of a n y B r iti s h Officers n o w se r ving is that it would be very inconvenient to have those ac. nation. For they who had been for so many years : honour awl fidelity was not to be swayed by external the Spani s h A rm y, t oge th er w i t h an 'account et t.t Founts made up to the :Ali of January. he, fur his ; appealing to the opinion of rantikind against the i circumstances. '1 hey believed that he would not Pay and Appointmetits received by them from thit part, could not see where th e inconvenience would abuse of power ; they who had been so loudly in- , falsify his promises, though the Powers with whom he et:outstay, so far as the same could be made out. be. He knew that, at least in many departments yoking the aid of humanity and justice, and every! negotiated had falsified theirs. Gen. Bellegarde took , After a few words from Mr. BARING:, the clone Of the Civil List, those papers were now ready to be sacred principle against the Emperor of France • ! possession of Italy under that stipul a ti on , i n t h e name ti on was t h en carriedl and the Committee poseentei presented. It was of great consequence that those i they who had been so actively exciting all hearts an d iof the Allies, not in, the name of Austria. But till Wednesday. accounts should this year be made up to the sth al all hands against that Power which was now no! what had been the domineering cond uc t o f A us t r i a ? M r . TIERNEY w i s h e d to k now who her I t tot January, instead of the sth of April, as we knew I more, were, in their present unhallowed proceedings, I She had seized upon the fortresses of that country , the intention of Ministers to lay the Trea yof Clout that this year there was an arrear, and might be ale I only to be found imitating, or even eclipsing the) and demanded to march an army into Turin. This mont up on th e wide ? The substance of • hat,Two Sowed to hope that there wou ld be no mm ein fu- worst acts of that Power. Who then could review I demand Sardinia, to whom we had entrusted the had 'already been communicated to the a wage, but 4 tare years. Tb• difference of this mariner of making' such infamous conduct without s h ame , remorse, and protection of Genoa, was so weak that she could was o f so muc h importance to know. she preee ep the accounts would be very important as to the . reg r et ?—The cause of proceediegdetigned and pus - 1 not resist it. By the Treaty of Paris, Austria was wording o f th e ar ti c l es , t h a t h e .hoped they weali consideration of them. If the Civil List accounts sued with respect to Italy, under the sanction of to be put in possession only of such territoriei as hail not be withheld. 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