The National Register. — London, England, 1820-09-04 00:00:00

282 119. The Lord Chancellor took his seat at within tee mMutm to ten. Prayers having been rend by the Ri.hnp of Winchester, the names acre recd over, and the following Peers mere es cu-ed on account of ill health, and far 'other causes. Lord E n niskillen, Lord Ay Icsbor), Marquis of Buckingham, and Lord Rivers. The debate on the subject of permitting the Queen's Coun sel to re-cross-examine a itnesses wall renewed and continued to a great length ; in the end it was agreed, that justice de manded such a privilege, and (after a motion for adjourning, bioposed by Lord Krskine, had been imotived by Ayes 61 I Noes 160 1 Majori•y 99, Counsel were called to the Bar, nod the Lord Chancellor, addressing the Queen's Counsel, said, the (louse KR them at liberty to cross-examine witnesses after estunivation, with the liberty to call back, at a future day, any witness Her such farther esuutinatinn as they may desire. The witness Barbera Kress was soon after brought to the Rae, and her cross-examination was resumed by Mr. liroughaus. Where do yea live now I—Near this home. Where I-1 menet say how Ihr it is from this. I came in a coach. I don't knew boa far it is. Was it en this side the river P—We came over a bridge. Who lives in the house with you P—Only the woman of tie house. _ . . Where is your brother?—He is with Me. la the same house ?—Yes. Has he given you any money 3—No. //id be never give yow any money ?-- No. Dui your brother Meet promise to give you money?—Not my brother. He could Not promise me money. Why oat?—Dow maul& he pronaibe me any thing? Do you mean to my be hats wit money of his own ?—Only that which took him from home. What trade is he ?--He makes pets. bhe a workusaw er a manufacturer ?—lie is a master potter. What is year father P-114 tither was a Serjeant in the Army. Is yea owe father Brine—No, I hare a father-in-law. What is be I—t. master w . Did oo person give you money after you came over in the slop I—No. Did an ►ody promise to give you money after you came from Cablinseito England /—No body. Will you swear, on the oath you have taken, no person promised to give you any advantage rater you go back from F.ngland ?—Nobody has promised me any money ; but 1 have bean told I should have the" dosinsageosent"(comprosalion) u lieu I came home. Watts should you have T—l cannot say. Who told yam you should have compensation 7—The ?disaster. What Minister ?—I said to him, I most be compensated for the loss of my situation. I said I shaft lose my place. What Minister are you speaking of 3—M. Von Berustadt. He 1114111 C. if I did not go, I should be forced to go. Who is he ?--I cannot tell. Was be Minister to the Grand Duke of Baden 1-1 do not / know whether he is his Minister. Did he nut come to see the rooms is the inn wheue you lived ?—M. Von Berditadt came there. Did nut ft.ron Conradin come to look at the rooms 7-1 did not see him. Did you not know he ass there P-1 have never seen him. Did you see, after the Queen left the inn, any other Gentleman come to look at the moms T-1 h ave seen no other except Herman de Grimm, who came to the inn to lodge. Now long was he there cannot say. What part of She house did Grimm lodge in?—He lived in room No. M. Before her Royal Highness arrived be lived in N 0.13. Did he give up No. 12 for the accommodation of the Princess?—Not that 1 have semi. Did be not ►eamrm after the Princess arrived, and go into N.. Id, to look what was there?—Yes he ran about and looked at the rooms. _ _ Was there any body with hint when he made the in speetionl—There was a gentleman—two gentlemen. Who were those gentlemen?—One was hie brother. Was be a German or an Englishman?—l don't know that I I never heard him 'peak. What is Herman de Grimm?—Minister von Wirtem• berg. Who is his brother f—l cannot tell. How long had yon seen the Princess before the day you say von went into the room and saw her with Bergami ? I have seen her very little. I bad too much occupation to pay attention to. Did you wait on her at breakfast ?—Nn. Did you occasionally prepare the breakfast ?—No. I weal into cleats the room, and then I saw her. Was it after that time you saw her in the room with Bergami ?—Yes, after. Does she mean she saw the Princess with Bergami after she was called in at breakfast time. or in the evening ? I saw the Princess with Dergami when I went into the coo nto wipe up some slop I had made. This wit in the evening. Did the Princess dine in the Inn ?—No. I did not see them dine in our honre. Will you swear they never dined there once ?—I can notswear to it, but I never saw *bent. .. Will you swear the Princess and Bergami did not dine at Cowl every day ?-1 canuut swear they dined at Court, or where they dined. Did yon see the Princess and Bergatni with the suite go to Court during the time they wi re there have seen them go twice in a carriage, but whether they went In Court I do not know. Have von seen the Grand Doke come to the Inn to wait on the Princess?—The Grand Duke and several gentle men came np to the Princess. Whist do yon memo by coming sop to the I's iiicesA ?—I can M/ limiting shunt it. Lid you suppose they came to pay their respects toiler KA al H ighness ?—Yes, prosably tiny (1141. Vt , here did her Ito) al Highness receive the Grand Mk( —I saw him go up stairs ; as they went up stairs, 1 went down stairs. _ _ Will site swear the Grand Duke did not come to pay his seven:a to the Princess on the night she saw the Princes• in hergami's rount?..-1 cannot say whether it Yl es day or alight. When you looked at the bed one mnrning, was it at the time you were making the bed :—Yea; I bad molting else to do w it i the bed. Kid you made any be , lt that morning before ?-1 - 1,41 was the first I made. There was HO iu the loom but a servant in a grecu cost. THE NATFONAL JIM:STE/L. Did Ise resew into Use room whew you was ms&l,u Wes bed ?—He came to assist me in witting the mattress. , A Who woe these servants?—'- f ury were the Princess's servants. Had you eve? seen them before ?--INeveree!set Own • before at. any time but ouce, awl the Priucua was there , when 1 saw them. liaee you ever seen them since?—No; I have never see, them siuce. Did you ever see them at any time before you made the bed? Did they go away with the Princess?—Yes, they went away with her. One was dressed like a Yager. When you had the converamion with M.Bernatadt about compensation, what did you say ?—I told hint, mist I go, for if I did, I could out keep my place. I was a suarlied woman, end had other business to attend - to. He said, if I would not ao I should he forced. I then answered, I will go, and God may settle the business as he pleased ' When you asked for compensation, what did lie say?— He said lie would not give ins any thing. I was to leave it to the Gentlemen, and he had no doubt they would re compense me. Did she say she should be recompensed when she got home again ?—No. Hail there been formerly any promise of a recompense? —No. Was no promise given to your husband, nor any of your Idlllih ?-4 can swear nothing has been promised to me, and 1T do not think any promise was made to my husband, becawe he told me none was made. Were the Id or IS ducats you received for going to Ha nover a recompense or a loan !—I cannot say whether it was a recompence or a loan. Was there a gentleman of the name of Mandeville, or Man-Devil, or any name of that sort, at the inn ?—I do not know. What did yon pet from persons who slept there I—The gifts were vat ions •' they formed a common purse, which was divided with the other, servants every quarter. She never walked at a place called the Glass-house, a short distance from Carlsrline, without her husband ?— She never had any conversation with any one about going to the Countess of Oldie When were you first in this House / —On Fiiday. Were you never hare before ;—No. She had never been in any but two houses since her arrival in England, the house she was then in with her husband, and the hotel, when they first landed. Lord Mansfield—When the witness made the bed in the morning, had the bed the appearance that two persons slept in it ?—No. After a few questions of no general importance, the Earl of Lauderdale observed, that lie had abstained from asking any qnestion which might arise out of his know ledge of the document* submitted to the Secret Commit tee; it was not fair nor manly to take any advantage in that respect. The Noble Earl then put the following question to the witness : When you took the breakfast to the Princess, do you recollect who was in the room I—There were Ladies and Gentlemen; Ido not know their names. The Countess Oldi was there. The Princess's room *as gene. rally shut after she saw Bereami come out. JOSEPHI BIAN('A Sworn. Examined by Mr. Parke.—What countryman are you?—An Italian Swiss. What part of Italy do you come from P—Venice. What is your employment at Venice?—l sun guard at the Grande Bretagne Inn. Hdi long - have you been in that employment?—Fourteen years. Do you recollect seeing the Princess at Venice ?—I do ; I have seen her there. How long is it since you saw her there ?—About five yeah ago. Was she at the Grand* Bretagnia P—She was there three days. When she came to the house what establishment had she ? Three courie.s. One was Bergami. another Theodore Misjocci. Had you access to the Princess?-1 had almost every day. For what purpose did you go ?—Because it always happened I had •.o carry something. Do you recollect Bergami ?—I do. Did the Princes* purchase any thing at Venice P—She did. a rich gold chain. The jeweller came when the Princess was a dinner. Did you see Bergami with the Princess P—He was always behind her chair at dinner in a Hussar draw Did you ever see Bergami and the Princess together alter the rest of the company left the room ?—/ have. What passed when you saw them together ?—I saw the Prin cess take the gold chain from her own neck, and put it round the neck of her courier, Bergami, who took it from his neck and put t round the Princess's neck. He then took her by the hand and accompanied her to the saloon, where they went out together. Did we witness see any thing more than this between them? —I have rm. After the chain had been put a second time on the Princess's neck, did they go . away immediately, or stay in the room?— They went awry immediately. Did you see Bergami a second time at Venice?—Yes. After the Princess came from Trieste she lodged there. Had Bergami any particular order of Knighthood P—He had a string of orders; jewels. How was he caled?—l heard him called Baron Bergami. In what manner did the Princess and Bergami conduct them selves after going out of' the room the first time they were there? —He took her by the hand, led her w the door, and she and he went out together. Did you see the Princess and Berganti together the second time they were at Venice ?—1 have seen them go out together every day. During how many days?—Four days. They went the second day to the canal. Were they always attended by servants?—There were always some with them. They were always ami in arm. Did you ever give your ann to the Princess?—l never gave my arm, but I gave my hand. Croeexamined by Mr. Denman. Did you see this transaction of the gold chain through the key-hole ?—I was in the room. Then they saw you very plain when they did this ?—1 was there. Was you ever at Milan ?—1 have been there. What compensation had you for going there?—l received nothing but my travelling expences. Did you receive a sum of money ?—No, the Commissary came to take me from Venice, and he paid my expences. Whit are you to have for cowing here?—l have received nothing but toy exporee6. What bargain have you made for coming here?—None. I have made no agreement, but if they give me something I shall take it. Who made you go to Milan?—Col. Brown and Vismacarti. He came from Venice without any pay, and he had no demand on any body. Who have you lived with in this country ?—With several countrymen. Was Theodore Majocei one?—Yes. Will you ono you have bad no conversation with that man alsoutthe evidence you are to give hese—Yee he could swear "a. He ha& breakfasted with Meiocci during the last tort. Dui they sup torthe i r i e se remp osci the_whole day together s m. -Not die whole diy„ was with his wife some times. What was the name of the jeweller who brought this golden chain ?—Bernardi. Is Bernardi one of the 23 Italians who daily dine together in London I.—No, he is left at Venice. Does he live at Venice?-11e has a shop near St. Mark's. How came you here?—Colonel Brown sent me. What made Colonel Brown send you ?—Col. Brown ordered the Commissary at Venice to. sand me. I nano loreause I wale obliged to come. I raw Mr. Hopner, the British Consul at Ve nice, but never spoke to him ea the busine4. The re-examination was about to take place when the Lads rose, it being five o'clock. WEDNESDAY, Aura. SO. Prayers having been , read and tla Poll called over Counsel were in at a quarter past ten o'clock. Several Italians were diem minified and cross examined without any thing important transpiring, except that after having sworn positively that they had never been exami ned in England, the Queen's Counsel extracted from them that some Gentleman had read over to them within* week, the depositions which had been drawn up for them by the Italian Commission, and bad catechised them un each► particular part !!! --it was also confessed that blajocci had described to one eV them at least tire ;dace of exami naiion, air. One of these amiable exotics had lived for a year with a Priest, since quitting the Princess' see r ice, but did not know his name !-- The next witness called was braise Derneat, of whom the public have heard so much. She wore a bandsolart black satin hat, ornamented with feathers ; a mnslin ruff, highly plaited, a white silk handkerchief over her neck and bosom, anal a black Milli gown, vautigrked at the top, and profusely decorated with thmeices at bottom. She is the smartest dressed of lemma de chambre, but neither the youngest nor the prettiest. She seems to be about 38 years of age—in complexion she is a brisarttiN—her cheeks shrunk and shrivelled, and her eye more remarkable for an expressionof cunning than of intellect. She advaaced to the bar with a degree of confidence which even the pe netrating glance of Mr. Brougham, who eyed her most perseveringly " from top to toe," did not at all affect. Mr. &rimiest Copley was proceeding to examine the witness wham Mr. Williams requested him to step milli'', and addressed himself as follows to the witness : How long have yen been in England?—No answer. Doyen not understand English?—No answer. Do you not undestaud. English at alit—N. answer: some inaudible expressions. Have you never talked English? The interpreter here explained to the witness what the Counsel wished to know flow her. Answer.—Very little. Have you not been in the habit of speaking English ? The witness seeming again at a loss, the interpreter explained the guirstion to her, and gave as her anima— -1 cannot speak it, and I understand it very little. Mr. Serjeaut Copley now proceeded with the examina tion in chief. Is a furtive of the Pays de Vaud, in Swit seamed, and in religion a Protestant. Entered into the service of the Princess of Wales. asferents ds cliambre, at Lausanne. Went with the Princess front Lausanne to Milan and thence to Naples. Remembers a person of the name of Bargain' well. He was engaged is the Princess's service while at Milan. Remembers also a young person of the name of William Austin. He generally slept in the room of her Royal Highness. On the night before entering Naples, her Royal Highness slept at a country house. Had on that night a conversation with her Royal Highness, in which the Princess said, Austin was grown too big a boy to sleep in her room, and that a separate apartment must be provided for him. Does not know whether Austin slept in the room of her Royal Highness on the night sire slept at the coualry-house before entering Naples. Up to that period did Bergami always dine with the servants ?—He dined always at one table. Do yen know what room was allotted to Bergami on.the first night after the arrival of the Princess and smite at Naples ?—I do not remember where it was. Do you recollect whet room was allotted to Bergami on the second night after your arrival ?—Yes, I do. Was the room near the one occupied by the Princess 1 Yes, it was near It. Was there any communication between die two rooms Yes, there was. Now when the door was closed, the door of the Prin cess's room closed, and the door of Bergaisii's room also closed, could any person have access to these rooms ? No, there were only those doors. Did her Royal Highness, soon after her arrival at Naples, go to the Opera P—Her Royal Hi - told me, when 1 was dress . . _ r—a . - highness log her, - that she was going to the Opera. Did she return early or late from the Opera ?—lt seems to me that she returned early. Were you in the bedroom when she returned?—No, she sent for me. While you were in the chamber, what did the Princess do ? Her Royal Highness crossed the passage, and went into the cabinet. Where was Bergami at the time P—l do not know. After the Princess had gone into the cabinet, what did she do —.I do not know what she did, but she returned into the chamber where I was. Did she say any thing to you ? did she give you any orders I —Yes, she told me to forbid Wm. Austin going into her bad-room. fur she was going to sleep, and wanted to sleep quietly. Where did William Austin sleep that night P—ln a small cabinet. Was it adjoining to that of the Princess ?—lt was near; there was a door of communication. Was dust door open or shut.—l faw it shut. In what state of her Royal liglinas's dress was it—when little dressed or much dressed—tluat Bergaani was in the dressing room ?—Sometimes she was dressed, and sowed:ties not dressed. Did Lego in for a moment only, and wane out, or he continued there?—lie went in and out. Do you remember ever seeing Bergami in the passage at night do. Where was her Royal Highness at the time ?—ln her bed room. Was she dressed or undressed 2—Undressed. Where did you see Bergami?—l saw Berginni come out of his awn room. In what direction did he go P—lie was going towards the bed room of her Royal Highness. What was the state of Itergarni's dress ?-11e was not dressed at all. What had lie on his feet %—Slippers. Any stockings s.aw uo staking.. 1