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HUNT'S INDEMNITY.—Airvonot of Sob sciptions already advertised - - /110 4 9 Bubseriptions received at Dolby's since the above : A few Friends at kntiover - - • 3 0 0 Morahan" Crompton, Esq. Lune Villa. near Lan caster - - - - - 10 0 0 Jeremy Bentham. Esq. - - - - -1 0 0 A Friend to Liberty - - - - * 0 Mr. Deo. Brooks. Worcester - - . - 0 0 Mr. Partridge, Do. Jr. J. Burrough, Whitechapet - - - - 0 0 1 Mrs. Cobb, Yarmouth - - - - - 0 01 Mr. T. Lettis, Do. - - - - - 111 0 1 Collected by a few Mechanics who earnestly ex hort their brethren to remember the Brave Dent 1 0 0 Various small contributions - - - - 0 17 II A Soldier in the late war - - - - 1 091 Mr. Charles Ilursthouse - - - - 1 0 0 Mr. (lades Jeeks - - - - 1 0 0 _ Will you swear you have not represented, you would sorrender half your life for her if she could read your heart may have said that, I do not recollect. Bid you not say that if she could read your heart she would be convinced of your attachment, your great regard fur her t=d recollect having written several times to my sister, but I vaunt remember that. Will yon swear you did not?-1 have written to any sister. But will you swear you have not written to the effect I have mentioned ?-1 wrote one in my journey to the Countess of Sciavani. which be contended had been come to in a liiisi g rrins Court at the last York Assizes, before Mr. Justice Bri ley. He, however, did not consider the objection of the Attorney General to he captious, far from it, forhe knew his Learned Friend was now lighting pro 'trig et foci*. He held it to be a sensible objection, but hr considered that he hail even the authority of the Law Officers of the Crown in favour of the coarse he was taking, as they hail allowed him to pursne it for two hours by the clock, without offering any opposition to it, and he now appealed to their Lordships if he might not persevere, fur a short time, in that course which he had been allowed to take for a long time before without objection. Mr. Item GUAM sustained the argument of his Learn ed Friend, by minutely describing the circumstances under which the decision referred to at the last York Asses had been given. The .VrTORNEY-6iNERAL thought be might dismis. the argument on the nisi prilte case, by reminding their Lordships of what his Learned Friend (Mr William"' had said of cases quote,' on recollection : that the Coun sel who brought them forward were apt to take that view of them which suited their own purpose. It wits his duty, in the present case, to see that, the examina tions were conducted according to the rules acted upon in the ordirary Courts of Justice. He maintained that before the examination could proceed, the letter ought to be put into the witseas's land for the purpose of oh tMning an admission or a denial of its Whir in the wit ness's hand-writing. That letter might he a true one, but their Lordships had no right to know any liable it it but from the letter itself. He was obliged to his Learned friend for referring to the Nisi Prins case tried before Lord Kenyon. In that case it was said the davit or an office copy of it most be produced. That was fur the purpose of its being read preparatory to the witness being examined on it, awl therefore the decision come to with respect to it, wade in favour of his objei.- lion instead of against it. That he had not interfered before, was no reason üby he should not make his ob jection now, and he must therefore submit to their Lot !- ships, that the course which his Learned Friend had taken was irregular and illegal. Lord F:asnisa was of opinion, that the best and proper mode of examination was, to produce the letter, and ask the itness w holier it he her Imathwriting or not. If she denies it. or doubts, then other persons should be called to prose the fact. Ile thought there would he danger in following any oilier coarse. Witness night hear parts of the coatenss. and admit that she had written something to that elect; but afterwards, on its being produced, she might den) basing written that letter. MOORE's IRISH MELODIES. • roIVER ht• the honour to inform the Sniiscri „ h e rs to MOORE'S MELODIEM that the EtePTH amt Is nearly ready for the Press. . I,w Proprietor hers also to Mate, that in compliance with ,1 the Public fw an Edition of the POWI'HY of t , euronnected with littoie. Mr. MOORE is at pmest eisibuyed iu preparing such a Volume for Publics ttos, "4 t h a t It w ill appear at the sometime with the Eighth yw kw hes, the Poems of which it will, of course. comprise. Mutratiels, !Historical and Picturesque, of the entire trod, sse also in progress. 54. Walt*. Inept. lite. I ask you again, did you not express yourself in the manner I bare described to your sister ?—I do nut re collect. To the effect I say ?—lf I have written expressly. r Here the question was repeated, whether she stmke of the infinite respect, the strong attachment, the uultanittal attention, &c. I hare written to me sister, but I do not know whether I used these words. 'lt was to this meaning. Will you swear von dill not use these very words. I alight hairy used awns, because I was then attached to Ale Princess. Per 3lr. J. Keed, Lynn. - - - Mr. J. Kited Mr. W. Wethered - - - - - I 0 0 A reified - - - - - I 0 0 Brushistakers and ethers - - • V 10 3 Remitted (per post) to Mr. Ireland An INA Radical Peer - - - 2 • 0 W. Illolintint 1 1 0 Rooks are open to receive Subscriptions at Mr. Hag don's, Mn. 1, Welbeck•strert ; Mr. Dolby's, 290. Strand, and 34.Wardour-street, Soho; Mr. Watlin's, opposite the 4delphi, Strand: Mr. Ireland, 76, Holborn-hill; Mr. Ful ham, $4, Mitchell-strert, Old-vtreet ; Mr. l'otiper. 4s, Fore street ; Mr. Warrry, tle Karl-street, Seven Dials; Mr. Wooler's Printint nlllre , 70. Fleet-%treet.—N. R. Country Subscriptions are requested to be forwarded alba' to Mr. Ireland, or Mr. Dolby. If IRRISON WILKINPION'I4 FINANCIAL REFORM. THIS IMUNI, PRoPOSTO TO Olt COI,LOCTRO POI tasms!! Attend so this. Ilan she not said to the same snite. how often in a numerons circle have I not enumerated her great qualities, her talents, her mildness, her patience, charity, in fact all the perfections she possestes In such an eminent degree ?—I do not recollect these expressions, but 1 wrote to my sister mentioning her kindness to me. Ilas she not used the expressions you (the Interpreter) have put to her ?-1 do not swear whether or nut, but to the same sense. Has she not said this, how often hare i not exclaimed against the world to impose so much unhappiness on one who deserves it so little, and who is so worthy of hriug happy ?—1 do not recollect the expressions, but I hThl, written several times to that ere:. _ _ _ SAVIMI A . . 4,lUP.ilob. TV, dr - was Published. by C. Cl apple. Pall Mali. and sold by J. M. Richardson, Condilll Price Is. dd. THE PRIM IPLESof EQVITABLE and EFFI CIENTSYSTE4I of FINANCE: founded upon self prident. nut% eri.al. and invariable Principles. capable of di ini ▪ ing Taxes, and Poor-rates; reviving and permanently sup porting Agriculture, Trade, Comtnerre, Wealth and floppi ness : demonstrating that the existing System of Finance, is caprkious, impolitic. and improvident, injarions to Liberty. Property, and Legislation; proving the neces%ity of repeal ing all existing Taxes, both general and local ; and adopting one. simple, equitable, and edition. grounded upon a Scale, just, wise, and unchangeable: with a new Plan for the Com mutation of Ty thes. Will you swear you did not use these words?—! do not rerolleet. You kept * journal while with the Princess 1— Yes. Did you never mention."you cannot think. fay dear sister, what a noise my little jourua I has made I have written, but do not recollect the words ;" go on, speaking of the journal. Did you not rite the expression that it has been snatched at 1-1 do not recollect the expression. Every one has heard it, Madame Logize begged of me to carry it to Lausanne ? —lt is impossible for me to recollect. But does she recollect whether she has written to that ef fect ?—I cannot /Men to what I ■m not certain. Did site not she% the journal to Madame Logize 1-1 do not recollect. . But did the see it ?—Yes; but 1 do not recollect whether before or after her return. . I go oil now. Ito yon recollect to have used these words:—" I have kern delighted in looking over my journal, for you kno•v I say in it a great deal of the hest and most ansialile Prioress in the world; I relate in detail all the traits of sensibility and generosity whirls she has she wn, and the ma:. net in which 'behave been received, applauded, and cherished, ill all the places which we have visited ?"—I recollect that I wrote often to my sister, and 1 spoke of her Royal highness to that etfect. Have you any doubt that you used expressions to that effect; or will you swear that you did not ?—I will not swear that I did not. IN'S von make use of these expressions—" You know, whet. the Prioress is the subject, I am not barren, con sequently my journal is embellished with the effusions of inv heart ; my greaa•t desire is, that the [Princess should appear to be what she really is, and that full justice should he rendered her ?"-1 wrote a great deal about her, but 1 do not recollect the expressions. Will you swear that you did not use the expressions now put to you ?—I will not swear, because 1 ant not sure of it. _ _ The Loao smcroLon said, that whatever might be i:;4 own opinion upon Use question, lie should wish it to be re ferred to the twelve Judges. The question to be submitted for their consideration was, whether in the Courts be low during a rross-examination, a letter could be put in and read, and a witht ss asked if he had written words •o that effect, without first Allowiug the letter to the wit ness, and asking if that letter or the subscription, was in the hand-o riling of the witness. laird DoNoul;s1 'lone deprecated the manner in which this ..ruls-ex.twitirtion had been conducted. Lord L trUF:XUSLE said a few words as to the f ris of the question. Lord LIVERPOOL wished to submit another question fur the opinion of the Judges. Ile wished to ask, if a line or two of a letter were shown to a wituess, and that acknowledged to be in the wi•ness's hand-writing, whether a witness could on that ground be examined as to the eastentg, without the whole of the letter hav ing been showed to hint. Lord E4SkINL said, that an acknowledgment of a small part of the letter, would certainly out go to prove the hand-writing of the whole. After a few words from Lord Mloa•roN and Lord BATIIUKST, the Lon n CHAN' ni.ton read the yote.tiocr and the Learned Judges retired. In a quarter of an hour they returned, roil 'he Loan Jt•^l it a Mated their unanimous opinion, that the fit-t qurs lion should be answered in tb negative. The see..n.l question must be divided into two parts. rir‘tly. if the letter was prosineed, and one or two line. • Ito alt to the witness and acknowledged, whetli:•r that would be sufficient to prove the hand-uriiiiitt : an•h to that part, they unanimously answered in tit.• A . ..- unitive. Secondly, whether upon su••h ackuowled:!- Inent, a witness could be examined to the whole to '- tents o 1• the paper—their Lordships stnattimousl t•r eitled itt the !Negative. Lord Lioettroot, s•ugrested, that the evidence should be and that part expunged which was obtain •d its et•utralletion to the ()pillions which haJ just been delivered. t tout: was of opinion that th • evi d usee wiNiclt the Judges lw•l decided to be it reenlar, ought not to be allowed to remain on their Lord-hips journals. Lard L tenant! %Le thought they could not in jos tier expunge front the minutes that which Connie' had put u I it, without hearing Counsel on the subject. Lord littsKiNn said, that if the principle as adtuitted and acted silent of striking out all which hap pened to •tueei with their Lordships disapprobation, there would be no end to their striking out. As the whole was compass-41 of parts, and the parts were intimately cosuieeted, a Id so hung neon each other, it was obvious that wisest they once gave a loose to ►he operation t..f the priming. knife, it was impossible to foreser where the amputations would end ; in short, they tui ;; ;:st go on till they " left not a wreck behind. - -(shear, hear.) Load L.►nsuon•Ne thonglit it was repugnant to the interests of justice, to lay open the whole of the cr....- examination in the manner proposed. Lord ilay.nviLts was of opinion. that they ought not to strike out any thing which was not uttlrt'ted to by Counsel, with whom it vested, areortlint. ta his view of the subject, to point out, question by pirstion, article by article, whatever should be eventually %murk out. Lord Dosovonmons said, the question narrow►d itself to this, whether they should publish the ex , amination which happened on a particular day, and whi.:li, it was the opinion of the Judges. was irre gular. If their Lordships were willing to allow, that to remain on their minutes, which was agreed to Vl' iota evitienze as all, he had nothing more to say. lf'ill you swear that you did not use them ?—1 will nut swear, because I am not sure of it. Ilave you any doubt that you did use them:-1 do not recollect; I might have used them in writing to my sister, hut I do not recollect these expressions. Have you not sai.l to your sister that you were beginning to want money ?—1 do not know. Have you not represented to your sister that you must economise es much us possible? Did she not represent to her sister the pain that she felt at not having done so do not recollect, not having mauled money. Has she not said, [do not think I was ever extravagant, but I did not deprive myself of what was useful. " How ran you n fish me to recollect what I have written! When you have spoken to the House of a dostide cm did she not say this is her letter," 1 hall I had almost forgotten to mention &circumstance that has surprised mel—Yes, I was niftily aunts. on (the time we could not bear) when an unknou II person requested to hand sue a letter, and he would give it to no one else. I desired him to come up to my room. Judge my surprise when I broke the seal. A proposal was made toga otf to London. to be governess, that I would get a large for tune ; there was nu signature, but, in order to assure toe, I was desired to draw on • bank in London, for any SUM I wished." Here the Arronsev-Gesianax objected, and said, the letter should be pot into her hand, and ask her whether is was her hand-writing. Alr. WILLIAM% contended the course that he had taken was perfectly in order. He proceeded to argue that, iu cross-examination, he had the same right to prove a con tradiction in writing, to shake the credit of a winless, that lie had to prove a contradiction in what had been stated in evidence. The LORD LOArtvisume thought it would be right that the witness should withdraw. The witness then withdrew. Mr. WILLIAMS pursued his argument at considerable length. He called on their Lordships to juJgr by ana logy, from what took place in the Courts below, and nut to decide merely on the statements of Counsel on recut lectiou, who might be expected to take that view of the subject which best suited their purpose. He then re ferred to a Priem case tried before Lord Kenyon in iu which the Counsel for the defendant was about to examine a witness on the subject of what lie 160 pre viously sworn in all affidavit. Lord Kenyon then hoer posed, and enquired if the defendant had the affidavit or an office-copy of it, which he held to be necessary, be fore the witness could be examined on the subject of its contents. The affidavit was not at hand, and the plain tiff had a verdict. his he thought wade it clear, that if this affidavit had been produced, the Counsel might have asked the witness all the questions that he was de sirous of putting. Hut the affidavit not being there, to examine on it would have been a waste of time. Why? Because the Learned Counsel had no means of giving. evidence on the subject of its contents, such as the Court could receive. Tl•' Attorney tieneral, assuming that he had the letter, and that its contents were true, tonic:tie-I that he had no right to examine on it till he had put it into the seitness's 'hand, and obtained from her an ad mission of it, but with a witness possessed of the acute ness of the person now under examination, to do that would be as useless as to put into her hand a Nisi Prins Report. He 'hewed that a decision similar to that for TORTURE OF MR. HUNT.— ILCHRSTER BASTILE. NO. IV. of 31K. 11UNT M S I:3101KS, was this Day published.—ln the Address to the Reformers at the end of ;his Number, will be found some account of the :hew Regulations in Ilthemer Jail: also, some Important Qnestious to Mr. Cssisrma relative to his writing Letters to the Qt eau—whether Baron ()termite wee or was not em plo3ed to break open the Wren's 14 . rIting-Desk for those Letters. as well es the Letter written to her by the thew Prince of W—. when he was d—. 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De area or tin w°' Hot betliivo del Idler to be in goar houtt-teriting!-1 runnut decide whether it is sy hand-writing; it is not quite like it It is • plain question, which any one with on• ellonth part of your understanding might answer.-I,eprt any.— (Question again repeated).—lt is not exactly likoniy hand writing. (Question repeated.) I can't swear to what I am not sure of. _ _ _ Lord ERAIIINI6 suggested that the whole of the letter should Ine placed before the willies", ■od that she shonld be asked if sl•e had written it. Mr. likortoi %sr runten•leil, that they Itafl a right to ■sk the witness if she entild prove a part of it. LORD Unv.vci.t.ent.—You only shell part of the letter, she ought to see the whole. Tell her interpreter that she is not asked whether she tiers it to be her writing. hut if %lir believes that it is ?—ll can't positively aft) that it is nut, but do not think it is. Mr. WILLI tvis.—lfow much of that paper, that has been before her all the time that I have asked soil a multitude of question, has been 'submitted to her eye. Lord lawritit.w here stated to their Lordships, that there was a conversation carrying on between strangers and some of the Counsel, that interrupted the (*.tinsel in general. Mr BIOL.:MAX.—This conversation. my Lords, is going on constantit, and if we object •n it. it would become your Lordships' duty to remove the obstruction ; but if not, I conceive no one has say right to object to it; It is the first time that prompting a Counsel has been imputed as a crime; and so far from being Irregular. I consider it would be irre gular for a Counsel to speak without prompting. The LORD CIIANCCLLOR-Ir any Noble Lord wish to make an ob lion, the Conned most withdraw. Do you now see the line and a half which is submitted to you ?—Yes. Do you see it distinctly ?—Yes. Is it your hand-writing ?—I cannot say whether it is mine, because I do not know the hand I did write.—(A laugh.) Asked again. I cannot say, because it is not exactly as I write. 1 wish to know from yon. Here the LORD en.INCILLLOIIasked if the papers were marked. Mr. WILLIAMS—Yes; my Lord. _ _ _ _ Lord Dostovommous here moved that Counsel with draw. He observed that the witness was called upon to swear whether a paper, part of a written paper, which was handed to her, was in the hand-writing of the witness or not. Now hr apprehended that there was a third mode of answering, namely, that she could not form a belief on the subject. The Loan CHANCELLOR said, with respect to the written paper, he conceived that the clerk riti;ht to put his initials upon the part of the letter which was handed to the witness, in order that if it again were made the subject of examination, the particular part might not be made the subject of question. Earl Ulasv said, that he conceived such a course was, in the present instance, unnecessary, as the first tmrt of the letter only was shewn to the witness, and of course that circumstance was mentioned in the short-hand writer's notes. The Louts CHANCRLLOR said, that this was a cir cumstance which had quite escapes! his recollection. Cross-examination was resumes!. Was it:sot in the month of Norensber, 1817, you quitted the service of the Princess "i—Ves. Did yon net know at that tiabe, all you have stated to day ?—Yes. Since the time you quitted the service of the Princess, hare ywt•ttot represented her character to be of s high alesriptiou?—l do not recollect. - i , 'I I ,