The Statesman. — London, England, 1820-02-19 00:00:00

II -., I , l „ _ _ r- ionsiont.' " Ott !Mastery) • WWI Slot Vivre*" tot e Motion of Sir W. - LESION, the oststatel., ghe•Civil List *Meow the Fourth ?.f 1+40.1 eit Etpatatim 'Mt 1 tad- saidi Maids Majesty's Mistatera had Uirport-, raneredtdered Nekelbid before-the iiffousa - t pia up their tolods M . the suhject. What could A PUJILIC saTt.VNI. . °Mutat the necessi:y of any Sheraton? Why depart . Maelstrom, from the flank of Zngland, pretest.. !root the establishid usoare. -Ls to th e . measstrei pros Account of tile Public llelisucca its the liandstof -by the Noble Lord, if the ;Wordy of on imme iii.—Orriered to Le printed. • • • !Bate disolution were once acquieseeN in, to those par 'Arno, from the City of London, pre e es t skikess tinder measures he could have no objection. He must .t of the Persons committed to the varinns?risoasl make one exception. In an early part of the present City of London during the last seer.--Ordered to Mosaloo, in consequence of the representations that had led. . been made of the disturbed state of the counter, Perlis 'ates, from the Pay offiep, presented an Account meet voted an additional military forte of II;000 men. total Etcpenditure of that Office during the All alarm, he apprehended, was now dissipated, and be Ind, 1613, and 1619.—Onlered to lie on the imagined that there were no sounder sleepers than the man of the subjects of the country. Why, therefore, was it requisite to keep up this additional military force of 11,000 men to the Voli of June? And what chance was there that at that time it would be reduced ; it being notorious that the attendance in the (louse mould at that period be very insufficient ? Where was the necessity of deferring this and other important questions until a sea son when no reliance whatever could he placed on their being fully and fairly considered ? He could nut give his assent to the Noble Lord's motion, conceiving that the Noble Lord was first housed to show what objection there was to vote the Civil List at once, as was usual in similar circumstances. Lord CAm VLF:Hi:A(IH, in explanation, assured the Right lion. lientletnan that he had no other purpose, in the propositions which he had submitted to the House, than that which he hod distinctly avowed. Mr. TIERNEY wade some observations on the sub ,kct of the Civil List, which were not audible in the allery. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said. that it wits generally called the hereditary revenue of tie Crown, went now to the Consolidated Fund, hut the Act which settled this point was nose expired. He agreed with the Right Honourable Member (Mr. Tier soy), who said, that the Crown was at this moment without any other revenue than that portion of the he reditary revenue which belonged to the Civil List, asuminting to betweesi 500,0001. and 600,0001. lie would on Monday next bring forward some measures on this subject. It was his intention to move, that one quarter's revenue of the Civil List, at its present rate, which would become due on the sth of April, should ho paid ; this would carry on the royal establish ment up to the sth of July, before which time the Necessary steps would he talien by the new Parliament. By this means all inronveuience would he avoided. — The Right lionoorable Member had objected to tie Coatinusnce of the increased number of troops, but it should be recollected, that a considerable number of the troops previously employed had been subsequently dia. charged, so that in fact (as we understood the Right lion. Member) the previous Mutiny Bill would cover the whole number of troops to be employed. He felt mtisfartion in stating, that it would not be necessary to tote any additional mins fur this part of the public ser vice, there being at present a sufficiency in hands for the purpose. It would be necessary to continue the Mu tiny Hill, and some other Bills, which would otherwise expire with the dissolution of Parliament. Mr. 11ROUGHA31 sod Mr. HUME rose together ; sad there were repeated calls of " Mr. Brougham, Mr. Brougham." 31r. 8., however, gave way. THE QUEVN. Mr. HUME said, it was proposed that several Bills Now about to espies., were to be renewed. It was known ihat by the 54th 14eo. 111. chap. 16, a sum of 35,000 f. was settled upon the late Princess of Wales, now our Ibmie. On the demise of his late Majesty, this grant onanod ; he expected, therefore, that either the Noble I-Lord (Castlereagh) or the Right Hon. the Chaucellor of the Exchequer, would have stated whether this proii ' Moo was to be continued, or whether any and what other was to Ise substituted in its stead. Lord CASTLEREAGH was understood to say, that every pains would he taken to prevent any inconvenience arising in the quarter alluded to, from the dissolution of Parliament. Mr. BROUGHAM said, his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Tierne) had so fully anticipated him in the view which he intended to take of the subject, that lie had very little M offer upon it. He could not, however, help express tog his surprise at the extraordinary nature of' the pro ceedings adopted by his Majesty's Ministers. With re spect to the subject alluded to by the Hon. Member who had just sat down, lie assured the House that it was not then his intention to offer a word upon it. He intended to confine himself to that part of the Royal Message whirls referred to the dissolution of Parliament. They were called upon to give an opinion whether the pro posed dissolution was a well-advised measure or not.— Titus called upon, it was no wonder that they should en ter upon the discussion ;—it was no wonder that they should consider whether they ought to give an aye or a ao to the question put to them. For himself he was as Little averse to all immediate dissolution of Parliament as the Noble Lord or any of his colleagues could be.—He had, bon ever, one remark to wake upon this advice given to the Crown ;—lse presumed that they had maturely weighed the inconvenience to which the country would be put by having the election come on in the middle of the Assizes ; and also the inconvenience which would arise, particularly M professional men, from having the Term cool smote su soon after the Assize*. On the former dissolatim of Parliament the tarn was postponed, hut it could not be done in the present instance. The next point to which be should refer, was more material. Ile could not help cioarratulating the House upon the admission which had been, though slowly, wrung from Ministeis. Not long 'since they were told, that so great was the alarm in the public mind—so inherent was vice ie the countrY-1 leo great was the number of discontented and designing who were plotting the subversion of the Con ,otitntion—that it was necessary to bridle the public - Mind, and to deprive the people of their hitherto con stitutional right of meeting. But now the fart was, that lore of these restrictive measures expired with the Par liament, and as Ministers did not exercise their discre tion in proposing its renewal, it skewed that the neees 'lily for it had ceased, or else they were about to plunge the r viathwi in,co:l:at:6:rd : o .ltsat)o t tbs t_ i e_dih pointt refreshingin je r . c o untry o t houghtot CANNING o bh t ouei o irtlno a tiwt s sa. ks h t t l i. fe f t h e ( eri .u r eed li na n.. s e i u j o s i e t th a n en ie d v l t lw e stun C o ns ti tution. actuated. p h o ea wi nb c r o l i ty h i f l b ae h j m e i e • t t t ion s i cr i n O tielsw n a t S a tah n t lb. oY o r r o e e r i it se t h e l i f :: ed—l spoken la t it hlliaairei on the other side of the House seemed to entertain one motive fur advisin g th e immediate dissolution of opinicro, that Ministers had some concealed and larki ng Par liament. lie knew not how such a charge was to be answered, unless by protestations to the contrary. Now he moat distinctly deni e d t h at e i t h er hi mse lf or his col leagues had any such motive or obj ec t in v i ew . Th e Gentlemen who made this charge would, at a proper dta, have an opportenity of comparing those protesta tbe • -nuld be introduced. s would be ' same of Tog is mammon. Order of the Day fur taking into consideration lest y's Message of vesterday - la ing been read, motion of Lord CAIITLEIMAIN the Slessage read Iry the Alert. :ASTLtaltAtill observed, that in rising to Address in answer to his. Majesty's must gra ms's...T.., it might be for the convenience of the to state .hat course it was the intention of s to propose ? in consequence of the recent and It events. "here were only two courses which pursued—either to en.leavour to go through tole of the business, by extending the present to the utmost lengih which the law would allow, a new Parliatnein. The House would see that inconveniences would attend the former of those It would in all probability be scarcely prie d complete all the Parliamentary tinniness prescribed period, and to select those topics to j luck the especial atteution of Parliament should be di- Tould be a difficult and an invidious task. Any not completed by the natural close Of the !ifs would not stand so advantageously with reference new Parliament as if absolutely commenced ' Parliament. IVeighing the alternative pre them, namely, olictffer the great business of should be brought forward in the present or in tenement, his Majesty's Ministers had decided of a new Parliament. It appeared to them, 2, that the only sound proceeding was, to endea confine the measures to he proposed in the pre- , liament as ninth as possible to those which , ispensible to the public service. Ile was per-, 'are that it had been the usage on similar occa- , i the first meeting of Parliament after the de the Crown, to make provision for a great proper. the civil establishment of the country,—li was the wish of his Majesty's lioverimient subject should be satisfactorily arranged.— ild now state to the House the particular business is Majesty's Ministers meant to propose for thel ation of the present Parliam ent. With reseed rate business, the House was aware of the course ' been pursued on former dissolutions—namely, such so arrangement as would place private in the new Parliament in the same situation as which it had been left in the old, so that iscoovenience would accrue to private interests:— , public business, it was the wish of Hovels. that the new Parlimisent should be placed in a ion the most calculated to he advantageolto to iblic service. It was sot proposed to rote any ad ' sum for army servicesduriog the present Samisen. i had already been granted to cover the expetoli the interval that would elapse before the niceties, e new Parliament. It was intended to propose *el continuance of the Mutiny Bill to the With of ,Ina., ail; of several other Bills that annul otherwise ex.; was probable that the House would wive at of its labours by the end of the present abatis. if it should accomplish all that woe necaleory I or 4th of March, the new Parliament might by from the 211th to the 25th of April, whentbe of the year would be immediately entered iuto. expressed his readiness to afford any explana aformation that might be required. the Noble Included by moving an Address to his Majesty. ' vas an echo of the Message of yesterday. iERNEY declared that the whole of the pro was the most extraordinary of the kind that he heard of. He did not believe that there had ever accession to the Crown without some comninui to Parliament efa nature very different from that I hod been made in the present instance. It had been usual to say something of the feelings el l Monarch, and of. the course of policy which it a intention to pursue. In the present case, the had only been drily told, that his Majesty's Ho • found it convenient to send them about their as soon as possible. Nut the remotest referees, made in the communication from the teettni, ulterior course of policy a Bich it was intended wsue. lie mast observe, without meaning to say ing offensive, that the omission of all such amb ition was very inilecorens. There was soother great constitutional importance. In all for ams, on the • ion of a new Monarch to the he expressed to the House his conhileace , would make good the hereditary revenues Crown. This operated in two ways. It te i the power of Parliament to vote those re not. It was highly important that it should taken for granted that those revenues were not the controul of Parllanseut. It was true that them were so. But what were generally called irreslitary revenues of the Crown, expired on the of the Crown, and could not be legally collected new Act of Parliament. Could any man doubt here was something at the bottom of all this extra • proceeding( not hitherto explained ? What it ;new not ; but he was sure that no Administer-I Ail wantonly, and without cause, depart from was the atdimiq esiiies•-au steels oemisimpa. could he comprehend the object of hnuselliately log Parliament. All that the Noble Lea that it would be inconvenient not to dlesolve liawent ininseiliately. The Noble Lord's notion if -avenient period for the laborious business of the that it should commence in May—a season not ig preceding that at which most Hoisostrabfe to were in the habit of going into the country, thereby rendering the proceedings of Parliament a :ter. With respect to the dissolution. he (Mr. 'Hersey) was as desirous as any man to get, as speedily Possible, through all the difficulties and annoyaner och en election occasioned. But he had ditties first perform in that House, which. he was bound not to and lie could not, therefore, concur in the Ai proposed. From what had fallen from the Nobbt ;t dish not appear that it was intended to ask tido Parliament for any further grant.--(An xn of dissent from the Treasury Bench.)--Wits It? ,oble Lord and the (tight Honourable tleattleesist seem quite agreed on that point. He wished ild settle it. Did the Right Hempstead, o . i tt so to propose a Vote bf Credit 10 the ippiy ? CHANCRLIOR of t: (ended to - ob. List up TIERNST 'tad been .. would eartgn * tI which" tk that ...twi l it it, disallow goat insportaiit ivalttes sf " 1 ti lmf Sslb- i ' siva would come on at a.per6olree the, year whwa it was Qs the . almost t 11111111114.4 to kn. .p a eitffieiellrlOttrasbeettf,Aelnkft& AeOkrels is limn'. • ... . • . , • , •.• • -s. i vett' turri* Ept orni meg obenv c 4ll4esild tettle ituithefee • oftfiiSeesiun was yet to be Ism., ad eueitetisH4 that it, 'm y. A n ..ould be . .Ampuesitile -to : get tistvitigltit in time to pre. a an A ce , pore Mr a Meselution at the end of sTY months. With t h e ia...,,,h regard to the precedents _Omani fn. he would hare their Mr. Lordships to sednoisier in what state the petifie.h a si osia P . . re Aceount co t as on those different occasions. Tbe death of queen of the tit, Anne took place la the month of August, n hen the busi- b e rioted 1 to•se : 94 the Sissies was at an cud; that .of i tieorge Om H r. V at F4sl took glace in June, when the ppblic husineti was o f th o t t csolftliteriably advanced t and tbaf of tieorge the Second years 17* in October. when the businels was conclovied, lu those ta w,. eases, therefore, there was no necessity for adapting the 1 nouns, which under the present circumstances ay pored I The On expedienC Besides, since the death of his late Iligesty, his shiest i there was more emotion thronp bout the country, on the (tir the prospect of the new elections, than prohably existed at itself „, 1,111 fornWe period. Perhaps there was not Ms instance Lord C. known before, in which the save Paper that comma- ..„„, a „ .1 cleated .*hr death of the King contained at) advertiae- Mous His, ; anent from e candidate fur the representation of seventy. House to The example was followed in other instances, and upon Minister. the *bole there was a degree of ferment in the country important i• bash rendered the proceeding advisable. Knowing, could be i this, and knowing that if they eutered into business the whole row, it mast occupy at least five or six months, the, Session to hail taken the middle course, as the one most suitable ,or to call to the circumstances in which they were placed at the many ince . moment, Liird Kr.lo said,courses. that the immediite dissofitilie .liy a bl e to wotild bring them to May before the niar Pirlietnitilt • t h e tame , totafel eseet. and he would leave it to the House to con- w hi c h t h e skier to what time the Session must extend In that ease. „ tied, wo It was true, that they had a balance of convenience and nwasure n inconvenience to decide upon, but thee there w as uniform son s woo ' practice on one side, and that practice was, that after to ,„ net the demise of the King, Parliament should proceed, in that with as little delay as possible, to the arrangement of semis! to I the Civil List. Ily dissolving now. they would leave the year a the Crown without a Civil List. The hereditary re- a new Par venues of the Crown were divided into two brioches : in favour one, 6y far the smaller branch, was strictly the here- therefore, iiitary eel-roue; but the other, which was considerably „ or to „ mure extensive, depended on the vote of Parliament.— sent p ar i ii No man, he presumed. would attempt to apply that wen i nd i t part of the fond to the purposes of the Civil List, with- teeth airs out the authority of Parliament ; nor was he sure wise- sions, on I ther there was not some portion of the hereditary reve- raise of the noes that expired with the late Sovereign. Upon the tins of tl whole, he was adverse to the immediate dissolution of certainly Parliasuest, without taking the Civil List into consider- that th is anon, as it was a mode of proceeding not respectful to He would the new Sovereign. which Isis The LORD I'HANIELLOR said he would state in considerat a few words the grounds on which he gave his vote, to pr i vate eepeeially as some Noble Lords, whose opinions were t h at had I entitled to respect, had intimated that those who sup- to make ported the motion sanctioned the Minister in venturing business it unconstitutiosal advice to the Crown. But that was not his view of the (location ; for, according to the law of that in a no incouv parliament in tomer times, on the demise of the As to pu Crown, Hs* Parliament was ipesikete dissolved. He did meat that ,wt mean to say that it was not right for Partialness to s i tast i n , nevi. extended its own existence for six months after the the public demise of the King, as was dose by the Act of William diaries! se the Third. His notion was, that the enactment was E h h •properlyrly made, with a view to the public interest ; but Isis in th , be that Act it was not determined that the Parliament of the net should necessarily exist fur six months after the demise continuan --s-lt was still left open to consideration how far the well as of bailie convenience required that it should coed, ire. it nee se to taint or not. If. os the other hand, they the close , thwarted the purpose of dissolving Parlianieut, toy i f so, or i going on with business shin the public convenience b y t h e 3d did uot require It, they were the persous who took assemble I 1 pit themselves to *ay that the Csaiwn should o u t business s shut:Ave the Parliament. If they threw obstacles in Having „ the tray of the dissolution. they took spots themselves Lion or inl thewotkority of deciding the question; and therefore Lord con: Le naiad vote with his Noble Frit/oda, mot with a view whirl, wax to Wink in epos the prerogative of the Crown, but to Mr. 111 pieVeat the prerogative from being istawfered with. ceeding a The Varquis oILANSDOWN *sited, .whether it was ha d „ w i t the ihtentien of Ministers to apply *bat part of the been an at • • h .reditary revenues. whisk were strictly such, to cation to 1 ii.ake up the deficiencies of the Consolidated Fend, in which hod the interval between this and the meeting of the new aliwairs his Parliamsut ? dos new ) The Earl of LIVERPOOL sosweeed, that he would was his i not. take spots biumelf to say whether the other House House hoe aosifd adopt any temporary ineessire of finance dams/ vernment tat interval ; hut whether they did or not, ass wisteria business a iniouvenience would follow, either to the public serviee h a d b een or,,, t vehe state of the Cons olidated Fond. 11 ith respect as to the to the army, he could also assure their Lordships, that to non ,, e. no shay slionld be continued in this conntry, even for any thing . I: so snort an luterval, without the authority of Patine inutile:di° mail , point of 1 ' $ The motion was then carried without a division.- ono suer cases, the House *different till Monday. Throne, --awe— that tey HOUSE OF COMMONS. o f the h Cr cognised slr W. CI*RTIS p resented it : Petition frtim the Prison - venues or ors uonfinal for Debt io the New Prison, praying for nut be tale r. lief.—OrJereil to lie on the table. under the 1 Mr. A BERCItOoIBIE presented a Petition frost the „„,„f t i 1 Insolvent Debtors in the King's Bench, praying for a the hired f e • litinuance of the law a Lich was to *spite on the t2d d em i se o f 1. etant. without a On the motion for laving the Petition on the table, that there The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUER sind.that or di nary i 1 among the measures which it was intended to propose, was he l a • . • i d 'ping the continuance of the present Parliament was li on wools une a lpr the prolongation of thelßill itt.lioftkkan... , that whit' ' to any eitretor oleo* Nor conk Lan! AlTl t l h O a ß t P i; w w i li b ld re i r s t e te u n i c u r ch more ekpediene to dissolving suck, arg ued be t o de more than to attempt auy amendment of the said was. , exierrig law. . Parliemen The petition was then ordered to lie on the table. the court Panocut Al. £BOllO. • year was. I Sir W. DE CRESPIONY presented a Petition from i very long 1 respeetable tradesman. a chairman of a Committee of lientlemer the Parishioners of Newingteto Butts. gainplaining of a and therel r system of freed which had been dismayed in the pro- dead tette I ceedinp of a collector in that parish, and praying fur Tierney) redt'Cia. as possild After a short conversation between the Coasent.i.on which an ♦ of die Excntovea and the Stasis'. ante the regu- to perform '• ; lerity of receiving flitch* Petition. it was t o rght ap and neeleet ; i ortk r teti to lie on the table. - dress prop, Lord, at d wanes& LAW. • lifr. BUXTON. in the name of en Iffliwlionhl. and present P Learned Friend of his, whose intentino it bari bee* to &, 1 tension • move the re-appeintosent. ii SW point Session, of the ie Nobl Voittenittest on the Criminal lA*. gave belie* that hia did nut a Hon,. and Learned Prised, itibtoever- the opportunity .they nook *Sold be afforded him by the reseinestiolieg of Parlim fan ioso :tient, would move for the ' ninent of th at Com; of ;biting. He was persuaded his illima - aO4 Learned. . The Friend would, in that treat. the iireoirodoo of 1111 ifltei . th Its, important euhloet is react and assiduity as be it tickle it Itierbi Ileaelit4.l ; 01 Oa wood's of Dr. PMlttl i t roalllng of the Ma Act A raid to /Way. ~ n aria oe touch dia. laivil Loot .. rtialool what te- ' Mt. Tf I „., • • . . -. ..... whirl% had '' .;:: .. liaise . . nt w • lie "tow. _liras ere* %Me . I. -Pre7tlag. *hit " — whatever, a -.. t• *Mike • uselil *pal etedirisaw forth, Cita *obi* Lord raid. Mal , iime, nave an opportu n i ty o f comparing those pritteita- VCIP.CLOR of the'r'AcilrtVEg salt 4 that ,tione with the measures wide* would be introduc e d. to prom ao' gralit for t is paretiot of the He eonW macre the Ham, that the Civil List o vo id b e latherlitb araPril., at the iteemulit We. armaged with 'every tiew to etwoosy, awl, at the tease NET resamad.-7Aeconliogi s tbpoedoeitot &hi* Att. . amid Net peraoa the omission of ven made 4. it :listilw JA tipapsw 11Par. a t emit tithe dignity of the Crows ?--(Heart) Id not Ise ame ea L?, the ISt er. Aka. It. ...6.41 Wei tat f n of *a Majesty ' s Nielsen hi therafore A tVat. am would he its. ao)et waile.failt this illjdaet at • preyed. An; seek iital oorst tb.-&„ „,ii slum*.. iii M , 4wiWeedloit lie lieolitisteot tifto the.Pbut which ist Ow liunsc knew of. Allihis appeaeid they Wooded to follow. The flooonialiie sad Unified - MP' ) • Membei (Nr. Reentglant) bad take& a cai s sia mid 6 objection to the discaseion of the dissolution of p asta , meat, observing, that nothing of the kind had hen piously done, That Hon. Member ought to tee s (4 that Parliament had on a former oecasioa pe nriftwi Address, praying that the Crown might not i atrefe ts with its °petitions by dissolution. What was ( s oft , vent the House (tour now enteroaining sack a in c . s he was yet to learn. It was urged also, that gatibn was the old wholesome common law of attn. stitution. Hut the law was the other way. Th , eid practice was, that Parliament died immediately os * demise of the Crown, and it was by recent essetn os , that a sort of period of grace, as it were, was mei* arid Parliament allowed to sit six months after sadly . mire, the power still remaining in the King to dis s o ft at pleasure. Let them look at the state i n which Parliaino was at the period when the late melancholy mut to ss ' place. They had before' them a variety of busie s , ' which it was hopeless to expect could be ilispasa ked within any reasonable tune. The country, fr ets e'er sourer, felt that • dissolution of Varliamest trss about to take place. If he were to name the who had been " first in the held," who bad ben u g to sound the alarm of the epprioaching dissolution s t Parliament, the Goose would perceive that the Hs i and Learned Gentleman opposite (.Ir. Hronchato osi k t to be the last matt who would cart au imputation cipitancy upon 31inisters— (l li:ar!)—upon not who were supposed to hasten the arrival of the molest when that Gentleman's most zealous and ardent top s , tations were to be realised.—(Laughing.)—ll e f e l t rw zinced that the House must be of a contrary opinie ss that they must ace Ministers had given that no w wlaieli was calculated to advance the best item* of the country, and that they had, on the whole, nos will the utmost candour and disinterestedness.—(lt as hear !) Mr. BROUGHAM, in explanation, observed, that * Right Honourable tiesolcusen had, upon this at apse several other occasions (he spoke it with respect), etsus at his joke by a perversion of facts. The Right N o t Gentleman said, that he thought " the first in thew complained of the speedy dinolution. Now, he appealed% those who beard hint, whether he had not twice said that he rejoiced in the speedy dissolution of Putnam So much for that joke. Next came the Hight Ni t Gentleman's version of what he (Mr. Itrouxhain) my relative to the interference of Parliament on the duals, tion of Parliament. What he said was, that the Km, had not before been called upon to give its °piens I. the propriety of dissolving Parliament. He repo* that when any such interference on the part of ment was attempted, Ministers uniformly replied, tits that was exclusively the prerogative of th.• Crows. Yet now the Parliament was called upon to approve sf 14 dissolution. Mr. MACDONALD expressed his entire costume in what had fallen from his Don. Friend. It inniv gular, that though Ministers themselves had calm that there was a series of precedents before themle t should think it necessary to deviate Iron, them "Ai assigning a single mason for their conduct. It sa admitted that all the Kings of England, since theirs lotion. had felt in necessary to throw themselves Parliament for a suitable provision to support their nity, nor was there any instance where the peep * not ratify and approve of the conduct of their Reamer► tatives on such occasions. It was said, that einem would he looked to in providing for the Civil list, he it was known how much value was to he set apse seri statements. The impression upon his mind war, that there was something in agitation, which, if broOrfee ward oow, would woe bear the test of a General &Me. —(Hear, hear!)—bet it be observed, that theyvernsit at that period of the year when the public li.ilismsom usually transacted, and that they had fell tier.eleelties ger than public bovines* requiietl. lie did sarrhp:te the right of the Crown to dissolve Parliament: hat he found fault with his Majesty's Ministers, whisesitive made it imperative on Parliament to give its opisies se the propriety of the exercise of the Royal premplitt. The question was pin and carried, and the Mise was ordered to be presented by such Mashers Mb House as arc Members of his 31:sjesty's Privy Coed OR.IMPOLND, PENRUI, AND r.I3IEL/ORD. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that in hrin fet a, ward his motion with regard to those Ror is which bribery had been proved to exist, he a sit detain the House more than a few minntes. Provides was, he understood, to be made for the Civil List,mi also for the further continuance of those Acts *kid would otherwise expire with the present Parliament thought, therefore, it was necessary that Pelisse should also provide for the preservation of its ova k nity and character. They ought to look with airsia eye at any attempt to invade their privileges. Isle therance of this he intended to propose, that the mink the Boroughs of tirampound, Penryu, and Camellni should be postponed to the meeting of the nest he meat. Fur this there was a precedent in 13 Ile•.111.c. 20. The Borough of Shaftesbury having !meat:swing of bribery and corruption, the writ had been patron from time to time, and at length it was postponed Mr meeting of Parliament after a prorogation. He reOPI that this principle should extend to the disesbdm which, in Isis opinion, was analagons to a proms's& In the case of an impeachment, Mr. FOR was of spisio that a dissolution did not operate otherwise lanoline. gallon of Parliament did ; with this diffrrenee Si that the former gave men a better opportunity erre* ing their opinions. Viewing the ease in this light, It felt that there was no impropriety in bringing the r sent Bill before the Mouse. 'flier. was one Beralli (Barnstaple) which hr wished to etelude, as pr t e had already been instituted with respect to it; let prorogation prevented their going through the Mk noose. He should feel sorry to do say thing OA cosild displease the inhabitants of any Borough. le they were called upon in justice to theuiselves to 1 1 1 1 thii measure. Ile should, therefore, move for Ism* bring In • Bill to prevent the issning of writs brit Boroughs of Uranipound, Penryn, and Canielfeed, OS the meeting of the next Parliament. Lord CASTLBREA(IH agree(' with the Neldeleti in the principle of the Bill, hut he suggested that Hum likely, in the event of the Bill going to the Lord& tOI would call fur the information upon which dry('h' Commons) had acted. This, he observed, woad IL I complicated, wad also an expensive proceed*. . 1 ` Noble Lord made some other observations on the do cultic, whirl] he conceived the Bill was likely te wo in its progress, but, (ruin the great noise in tot 0 80 . we were unable to collect their import: 1 Mr. W. WYNN was of opinion , that the. Rowel d *rostapie ought to be particularly included WO all. Ample evidence had been given at the Illw. 4 Pie existence of bribery in that Borough, soil ilea Moose was proceeding upon a aiusilar inipdtlioi l timer proceedings were put an end to by the 1 eir Patifkiffiffit. The Noble Lord (Cast ..rtag ( C r O MMlMerstion of the question of the esello Sim Boroaghs, might cense before a sew M.. well as before the present Pathos's's!, if 11 ! 11 owksio new elections. No one can Oen 't e tt e ...authority of Parliament, on this es .."'" &eets. Bet it would certainly embarrass the go fflisoot if Members were returned for these IhOl o laisalectbsa. It aright then he objected % balle t bed once fallen into acts of correptieth 1101 instemet, elected Mashers witheel • . y at stagier practices, aad that disdain II" arliment, Mr. Foe was ofofililk Vlot operate otherwise than did ; with this diffrrence sal} dim ten a better opportunity oftetito iewing the ease in this light. If $4 impropriety in bringing the 4pm wise. 'flier. was one Bets. 1 1 wished to etelude, as pe tilted with respect to ;lt* I their going through the Al MI el sorry to do are Asia, rib ultabitants of any Borough, 1 0 • in . justice to tlteuaselves 1•1110 mid, therefore, move for kalIN tent the issnimg of writs Wr . a n nsl, Penryn, and Camelfoltiolill t Parliament. OH agreed with the Nobbling Bill, hut he suggested that K" the Bill going to the Lord4o4 iformation upon which they this This, he observed, woad 1 .2 fait an expensive proceeding. ...P r e r e other observations on the Or deed the Bill was likely to ton "I nm the great noise in t o iko". sN left their import. j M or opinion. that the Reeeefk P t be particularly included far e had been given at the tat, 11116 y in that Borough, and tine& upon a piusilar ;ovary. 01 !. Peg • put an end to by the Wog :ohle Lord (Casti”reak ) of the question of the light cense before a a ;;; • the present Parham' s*, I otos. No one can dm/ die r" - _,, of Parliament, on this sionm^ gen I certainly embarrass do g e 'eternal (or these Bonin ll': it then he objected. tbat .71 nto acts of corraptiolh min witheat home- :dem wad that tbeceis“ I M 4 Ai gee bi rime .1 To lag I f Lard lay 11111 sad ase. I b I' 16 •a •n