The Statesman. — London, England, 1818-02-12 00:00:00

have takes pities - I believe to be a person Ranted to some of the , metropoli, stitoted for discos , of Reforyp. limited from I/ the 241:. April, for Liverpool—on the way they becamesca. qua i a r e d with one Josses, and on their antilisllgitligr there or at Birmingham. it was deemed proper to' introduce the London Delegate, for by that name' Oliver was called, to the friends of Reform in the rouutry. I can prose, by credible witnesses, that Oilier said at this meeting be was commissioned by the 11eformera of L..ndon, naming at the same time some people of rank, to visit on duty. Nottingham, hlancherter. Liverpool, and other places He said it was a great object to assemble delegates tngether ; sod be strongly urged them to appoint peruses f oe subsequent meeting, which he appointed to be held tit Liverpool. Where is the use, said these people,, yt fi v e o l eo like us .appointing • Delegate to go to Liverpool to represent the People of Birmingham ? " 0 !' said be, are you so green as to publish lie ge ni alness of your numbers as a reason for not ' 1 sending a Delegate? Who will know, if you wad i Lim forward, the number by whom be has bee ti elected ? let us have Delegates !' . A few. dais after, Oliver wrote a letter from Birmingham. In Jones, stating, that a meeting would be held lit Liverpool on the bilt of May, and urging bite to get as many persons together as be could. Oliver went to Leeds and Manchester, and at both places called on the most respectable characters, spd stated the confideuce placed in him by the People in London. He stimulated them as much as pos. bible to attend private and public meetings—.be re. presented himself as being actively engaged in the work of Reform--he said be had been concerned in the Committees of 1792 and 1793—that h e was deeply implicated in the affair of Colonel yard—that he *misted in the escape of Thistly...oud and young Watson—aud be earnestly pressed the People its the country to concur with him in the adoption of strong sud violent measures against the Government of the day. They resisted the . solid. lotion, and meta too wise to fall into his analrake—•- ( Mar, hear!)— He was joined by a companies of, the same cast as himself, whom he bad, by a sort of juggle, arrested at Ileddersfield. What I state is from information on which I can rely ; 1 have it from persons whom I have essmined, and who have severally identified particular facts, so as to convince one of the general corroboration of the whole main facts of the case. Oliver said toe par. ticular friend, or one whom be wished to consider as such, 0, 1 am delighted to see you ! but our poor friend (his companion) is taken up ; there is no ace io petiti d I dd ing, it will never do, we must have, recourse to physical force !' He contrived to get., • meeting of Delegates to assemble at Wakefield ; they were ten in number—one from London (Oliver), one Gem Leeds, one from Birmingham, one from Wakefield, one from Manchester, and a few others. Here again Oliver said it was my use to petition, that the People in London looked to the country for esertion, and hoped they world stir first. He asked them what arms they could master op, as that was an indispensible preliminary matter to settle.— Ile also pressed them to state the number of names they could rely upon, and the arms woicb each matt could procure. lie threw a parcel of cards on the table, and wanted those present to write down on each the particulars of the information be sought, but this th.s refused to do. Perhaps this circumstance gas* rise to that part of the former Report which said the quota of effective strength of the People in the country hurl been furnished its a list prepared for that purpose. Oliver wrote down the names which were mentioned to him, and ne doubt fur , . ..hod the list that the Report referred {e,—(dear !)—This fellow owed great obligations to Peadrill, and a man named Mitchell, who had advanced him mosey, and saved him from prison. I have a kilter which be wrote to the latter, stating t we have bad an esoellent Meeting--Bacoo 19 a capital He shortly afterwards camel. London end visited Mitchell three times he the C• 141 Bath-Gelds Prison, or rather in the Governor's house, to which the prisoner was sent to meet him; he evidently went to try to and entrap the onfortonetemaa—that is. in plain terms, the Govern ment seat their spy to act aspen their victim—they sent him to try end elicit that informatiete from the , prisoner which they could not themselves sae, in the her of obtaining his ultimate conviction. He, at the third interview, praptssed to Mitchell to write to the country and aycertain what somber of anus could be depended open. Mitchell refused, eharged him with betraying him, and forbade aim for ever from his presence. Now it has been said by the Right Ifeenorable Gentleman, that Oliver was 'Dever it Nottingham or Derby : now prove that he was at both pkces, and equally batty in end ."—(Deer, hearl) Mr. BATITURST.—" I distinctly said that he was , at Nottingham, bet taut in the pan of Derbyshire where thearlimerbances took place." .Mr. SEKNETT.—•• lie may ant have bees actually at the barn near Derby, w here the preparatory Meeting was WM. hut 1 ulna:ow a direct connect um between hit acts end Mined the people of the neighbourhood. Oa the 26th. he. went dos that part of the emnitry and urged the Reformers to acts asp. violence; be tried every mom to get a few together (Om , were his words), and he did oat desist from ponaing bit flab long Rs he could get a simile person to ahead to his asimmw . time+. He aecordiagly west to the Talbot too. where re per ms free Londe' said his some was Oliver. A omistatentioa took place with Vat. in the come of which Miser said it wawa he another grand hose on Goverment. far they wield and theamelvesemopletely deceived mid maw Wed. The geta time Ora tinned on Parliamentary Reaves. whet' Olver said, • Reform ea: all to no ;tarpon*. The Lindens People am it was swims to try that course. aad weight sot agree to Oliver twit asked, • where the permit was who was talked of the night before?' That perseo. sail Mr. Benet*, I am bring leeward. and he wilt confirm. on oath. mot* of what I hare stated—alliteeth 1 do sot choose to mention his name.— Oliver was apse ered. that those who were them present did not know--aad a enemies nag put to him, • *Metter he considered Reform altogether out of the cpsestion r lie said it wets, and panicalarly in Lowden—that other means were to be tried.' —lle was then arlietl,—• 11 hat means it was meant to have recourse to r Ile answered.—• The only means that were kb—physical force. The People of London waited may fur their friends in the country. Lie had travelled, in his pretest elmuseter, ass delegate, to Birmingham, Sheffield, Leeds, and amid the s nanafactaring tits rico. and fumed them all no the alert. The People about Leeds were armed and ready. He w a. told that Derby nit, a loyal place, and be was not I kely to succeed there', as the People lout nu ' That, he said, was on matter. It was better if they ewe came art with knobbed stick. in their hands, bud joined their friends, than that tliry should remain inactive. There were 60 or 70,001 people in arms already—and in Nottingham. be stated, he could raise Mt Ott tarn by lio4dirm wp his anger.' He proceeded to state that he it:Witten with %Vanier. in London, and that Wooler bad ' 1 * (4%10 Fist Ike Proclamations which he (Olitcr) meant ill this did arripl, dated* frost Liverpool, on the of lame. At Obis siammentiestbeedither , served. dial she Peoplitat Illedifsfersde 'Out ferfulfwar, ll .„, triitt' wished-and he asked • *ere they lout delicirst Snarl. , I . - WI starwered in the allrelative. he said: • Arms could be pitseattfd from *cadets *phi, tad thug- the Wolseriamplos sea would hawk Warden over Os of the iterseas prise. at said. be a brother living near the depot. On which ,Oliver neital:' • would he that with to go timer Ile answered, that • hews' laziest to do so-het mould est. as Is had are she mesa sf Agra, rm.' • Bet.' said (Miter. • go. anji, make your own ob..tttla about the depot. and say not ins to yoar,brafber,s- • = l n by Birmioghas, let ate hear year report. amd I Sill 'ghse yott a -*set 'to • fkoilessaawho will largish yiosi with 'kitty of money.' This man. seeing his frieads sad neighbOors taken up around him. absconded ; hut he was ready tit "wile ' oath to the fats of :the Imre, sad in the avatars dritabild in es' eisnirersatios. Here this b Mr. Oliver. drawing'" petitions, writing letters, and ezeitiag discontent and illielreetioa. Cats these be swedes**. Wise had induced this man to go to Weeded barraahs ajar diespreepowe b had wird.. that the deileketl talk.. ' tridwid *weld have bees guilty of High Treason}-[Bear, I haw I]-Ami yet this is the person whom the Right H... "m• illelltalt opposite d -else, not to base misstated the People of'. Allevlty. of birratiagliam. of Manchester. of Leeds. of Binsiog psis. of Literpool. is Sort, the ialenbitants wherever he has' bees, to acts of violence and outrage !-[Hear, hear !]-Well. lllllreer goes beet to Nottioglism. sod he appears there in the . character of a delegate fora Loudon. He cads so the people is that town, I. the same .. of as be had dune its other places, to ' proceed so sties. aid heats forth the seessity of madam by I their esiostry.and messing these riots by physical force He . again Mates. that tile People at Leeds, Toth, Birtsiiiighato. Ac. weer ready to rise, and he urges the population, is the stroswast terns ma ram se, se eug me issiestia ely in levy tug war. (in this day, I tell the .tight Howourahle tiestiencia ou the 16th a May -• Oliver saw Brandreta.-[Hear, bear!) I tell hint I bold iu my is sad, the affidavit of is person olio was is i their eusipaisy.-[Hear. bear! soda cry of You meat tun so .aamesl i trims Mr. tiassorst.)-I Iwo am stetstinired assors-bat , 1 I tell aim I will bring forward the witnesses whenever it is ee -1 marry -Clime, he'll-and 1 Mak 1 hare wawa ilia corillirms ! tits of that which he Mears. I babe attiondteth's sun silate•- sent, made to the Solicitor mhos, he employed on his trial. and 1 takes down by that Solicitor, whit" completely col rohoraies raw matter coataiaed in she aidarit. I will read °stye part ali Out statement-because with of it enlists*. of a eumakie coo fersson of taut, about whits no doubt c.i.f., namely. his having ' beesutkyor those illegal airs which nu person coo attempt to. justify. The &tidal/ it vets forth, that Braadreth met (Meer at the hose of a perruts named Stepisess.-C . 4 ear. hear 0-And I I will tell the Hight Hoot Gentwiatto 1,..it steeliest as a very I important peries-ana •.ape the very few who were e/maged in this couspir /ey. They met in the Three Salmon, public-some- I. and tintodreth appals US Bore' bees air., concerted with OS- , I err ea that ofcamos. Mellowed most attentively to what he' stated. and asked him Twins questions. Braudreth , in his I statement, said, that he attended a Meeting at the Three dal- ! moos, at which several osier persons were preseut. It was' either on the Whit-Monday or the Monday after. A persoo was I them, who raid he bad been shoat the country -to Maaenestre, 1 I Leeds. Yolk, Ike. and that be was proceeds; to London, by ktinstagiset. Me observed, 4 That they a ere all ready to rise -.sad be could raise 70.0 W meal by hol. tog up ills 6//gerr • But,' raid he. • Nottingham most be secured. That is the ' 1 rallying point for the North. If it be not secured, the passage secs the Treat would be mopped.' This is part of the cram tents of a statement eonitteutially gi/ ea by Brandreth to his Solicitor, before his trial-end was is that iodivldoars I haalswriting.—But Oliver war not relished with thi...--.-. ale goes to Liverpool, and rears to Nottingham, on the 7th of Julie-and bolds forth ia the same was. Be Jig pressed to stay labate, his answer was, • I would, with pleasure, stay here to raise the standard myself-but it a Wen ary mat I should trash, 1 to support those triads in York, who are sir in arno., to up hold the same cause, which you sue so stuck in advaueing, - - [Hear!) -During the shok of this/ conversation, be was ran stoutly referring to the 8 b or 9th of June, a. iiirday appointed 1 for the rising. Tba witness who was present at the Meeting, wars also in the room alien chit iook place-nod he i. ready to i state on oath the whole of these circumstances. • lie told We,' I says the wittiest., • that the People in the North of En laud were math to rise oa their oppress:or-mid that tbet could hardly be prevented from appearing in arms. That a vast body of people were read, to poor down from tSca land, who would over • shells all helot. Omni ' and bear down their gyre's's. That Sir F. Burdett and Major Carts riot were nannies to waist That several sstliceesofdatinetioc. whose hinnelk it would he improper ifil MOINFOD. %0•1411 i..ke any part that might Ilte gisen pi them - finally, that all he had stated SAS perfectly true.' Now the Report spoke of delegater being employed all through the eisertry-as if *Si NI were the fact. Nu e at those delegates o had appeared -bet it does: appear that Oliver. wherever lie I went. did speak of himself as Wising •irite‘t various places in 'the capacity of a delegate -[l.said cries of hear, hear !]- : la Birmingham be was no so succe-sful as elsewhere. .fitere, when be toad endeavoured to ens rap persoos, by her.. Wawa-, lion illegal ties, be was discovered They tot' him they knew his omo-that there was not an individual in his ming/ram who would join with his-and they completely washed their halals of him. I hope. Sir, the Iloose o tit mark this peculiar circum snifter. that she very day Oliver %MS found not-the day he was cosseted of being a spy-the day he ceased so be a missionary and tourist-from that day pillow trasq/lilloy Oils restored.- [Hear, hear !) - there i- no t ouht that, ail through the country, there was mutt' doeonteut : 0641 there raw lie a- little, that Mr. Oliver worked on it. for /tee worst purposes. I is ea.-) for as, an:. enjoy, by meant of our Ittri..llC,. or the money taken from the Punic Pier.e. for oar services, or nn aervicet. every com fort of life, to tali. molests shunt the thouresses of the People.- We haus not ODA it is ia hear our eh/Send cuildres calling for food, which a e have hot to give. last it *at to persons thus sitnated. has Oliver made hi. appeals-and they, like drowning men, were wadi , to rains at any Pilaw. 40 Wive them from the gulf of perdiiitio a hick was gaping to swallow them. What had Govern sat ;es to relieve tliese distres es? They emu a ors to those %than devotes' and mot bad rendered de/i -rises/wed. for the purpose of inciting them to acts of outrage. Vatil this day 1 did not think any Government would have helm weak eamigh to employ any person so such a mission.— the Night tionouraMe (Walkman who spoke hot has told wi, that, if tiovernment Is/d any thing .to do with these transise doss. Oliver nasal Deibv. and might have been esamined.- I %to, he was ready to porehose, ennspiesely, by has evidence, that blood soar, which his nnisimas had previassly earned.- tHe.a. hear !)- dist, why dui not the pris e. rs ea.t homy They abstained. for the hest possible lieu-sin, because they couldn't. -phew. hoar }-They were. not to show that they were to. does/ in* treasonable acts-they were to prove that they were DM guilty of lamas. The A torney-Generrirs own witness, Mr. Lsrle. was plated in a diferrot situation. He tieing called as by the Crown, was apes or the efforts of she des' feadass, wished his examined as in hit credibility. But the, Aworeerfileseral bad net called on Olive.; and this accounted' for the tura which the triab took. Had Bacon besetrteit ins. Oliver world twee bees a most important wises. The Alt sorney-O/ areal knows that Amos was an importantipernsage In these proteedings; and he knows eqoally well, tEnt 011iview' !sold state nosh /if what Bacon did, tea several seessisll.-s-. Vise s bear 0-This was Use res. ashy the master traitor elfol sot tried kit. Had he been placed first as the bar, Oliver most have been called. sod his character would have bees the, enquired isto. I now tell the [lame, I am prepared to show, if Omar gismo far that purpose.. far some of my witnesses pre out a the coowry. I :an prepared to tutabliA, OD the. authority of sedate wises*, every fact I have stated; and whew I speak at evedible witoesses. I do ,nit allude too such men as Caste and Oliver !"-Geotlessen upperie may. by a majority, defeat this, be any other motion. This system may do here, beet it will net do ins-the country. They sow stand before the coontry. as their trial-and the meats" , will tsars that ver dict which their roods . ' deserves. for ray own part. I hope the Hose wi I sot hawses the Committee so do that, .hleh, from the speech of the Night Hos. Gentlempa (Mr. Bathurst), it is titer they aredeternioed not to do."-ICheering.] Mr. WI IBERFORCE protested against receiving • , say reference from the honourable Member, wise had just sat down, because ha 'visited to feel himself, : • to the Committee, soembarrassed by matters not di rectly before it. His reason for thinking the Itonse shoeld reject this ',swing% was, because it proceeded altogether on en onfounded assumption, on a miser ,prehension of a passage in the Riport of the Secret Committee of last year. It could sot fairly be sup. • posed. that the Committee menial to say, that sal • Coosiderable degree of this tentlewcy_ . I. inserreckiee lolaoccasioned by -, '.Jr.h Oliver. He believed the' ,eemining of the Committee, in alluding to persons 'employed by Government, was this :--that Jiitieet information of Seditious Meetings having heave .. _. ceived before Mier wit sent to the country, it week!. • - not be ottogether light to say, that this mates CQII, *roe soma mischief. —he .wesehl not : Mk that. those persons had said, who raw came f4driril to accuse that indisidual. If this p-rsou tkted'ho so criminal a meatier, In was clescribikl 4 , . tidily elsisegkr *at the Hotatvesahle Goalless. ld net *confer a greater **welt oat societp, i s protmceting and bringing him to justice. Thei I goo. Gentleman spoke at considerable length to this effect, and Coatladed by expressing his detetmination" Its oppose the elation, es it could lead to • so good' i ts revolt. • ' The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, if it were , asserted by tint Committee, that a person employed lily Government, instead of finding out plans, bad Jpstigated individuals to do something not previously 'thought of—then he admitted there world have beim' triminality--and it wield Mailmen sufficient gins on which ter Vowed a motion like the preheat, for rind purpose of learning what seeps had been takes so bring those persons to justice. But the passage, in the Report, be contended, afforded no sects ground. The Learned Gentleman then referred to the narra tive introduced by Mi. Bennett, and argued that it came from a piloted soarer: He suspected front whom the kloateerable Gentleman procured his is.: ' formatioof whew ha mentioned the nom. of Mitchell, who had beets taken ep for treasonable practices, and was lately discharged from confinement, and Pen. drill and Stephens, who had both fled to America.— Ile defended the conduct of the Attorney. General ' during the trials at Derby, and stated, that Oliver could not be culled as a witness by the Crows, be cause he was net ificluded in the list delivered to the prisoners; but, indepeodent of this, the Attorney ' General never intended to call him, because he knew ' nothing of the transactions. By the narrative itself it appeared, that Brandretb only saw Oliver en the 26th of May, and would it be said, that, before that time, be knew nothing of s conspiracy ? Wes it to, supposed that he and Oliver formed the plan at thi.;. i 1 their first and last meeting ? The fact was, and it I was given in evidence on the trials at Derby, that ; the conspiracy was going on fur weeks and weeks before Oliver went to the country, and Brandreth knew of it. That individual au tried first because he was the thief leader on the occasion—and, in . justice to the country, be ought to be brought first to condign punishment. Sir S. ROMILLY said, the question was, whether, after the important statements made to the House ' that night, they could dare to use the words of his i Hun. Friend, refuse an examination into the (*imam. ' stances? As probably no amendment would be pro ! i posed, he should vote for the motion. But he con fessed, those egtraordinary facts to be eismined, I not by the existing Select Committee,bet by another. The Leatosed Gentleman (the Solicitor-General) had ' stated that the sources of hn Ilan. Friend's informs .lion were polluted !woese be mentioned Mitchell. Bet Mitchell was arrested on the 4th of May, and all the transactions stated in the narrative took place since that time. lie strongly reprobated the idea, that-because his Majesty's Ministers chase to have a man arrested for treasurialde practices, and afterwards ',boated, without trial, that therefore he should be i deemed unworthy of credit. lie denied the sm. {racy of the Learned Gentleman's statement, when he said it appeared, from the trials at Derby, that long before the 215th of May, Brandreth was con cerned in treasonable designs. The fact was, that the interference of Brandreth had not appeared until Yee Bth of June; the Low Officers of the Crown sere, on the trial, provoked logo into the earlier proceedings, but they declined the inviiation. It had been ...ked, that although Government had not called open Oliver, why had not the prisoners done so? But his Hon. and Learned Friend, the Solicitor.Geeeral, knew and acknowledged that the prisoners could not call on him ; hut he bad asked why, when they were called up for judgnient, did they not then state, in extenuation of their offence, that they had been se duced by Oliver? But did the Solicitor-General mean to toy. that had they done sn, they would then obtain mercy ? (Hear, hear :)—A better means of attaining mercy would be to state the direct contrary. —( near, hear!)—But what was their statement at the last solemn moment when all delusion must of necessity base terminated ? At• that moment they stated, that they bad been drawn into these unhappy scenes by Oliver; bet the Solicitor.Geeeral declared, that this assertion was trot, even under such them. stances, entitled to belief, and could he imagine that it would have been credited if advanced by them in the hopes of obtaining mercy ?--(Loved cheers from the Onooritten.)—The observations which bad fsllrn time tire Solicitor-General upon the statement of as Ilonoerable Member seemed to imply an accesation of his having made common cause with traitors. .....(c, No, no from the 4Viatiterial Beaches ) Prrho-ps he bad used too strong as espresaitsa, but be trusted his Learned Friend would explain what he bad •eant hy.censuring his Hee. Friend for nalog the mitigated expression of some illegal acts. An lloos. Member (Mr. Wilberforce) bad expressed great abhorrence at the employment of spies, bet bad fancied that cases might occur where private treachery might be used to dimmer public crimes.! He, however, was Not consist enough to decide what I such.enaes could be; bet he could not forget that a i Noble Lard opposite bad, on another occasion, de-, fended such conduct, and even regarded it as a del of Ministers.—( flear,hear!)—lie trusted that should this question be, as he feared, negatived; his [reamed Friend, who seemed to have no to an enquiry euept by • particular Committeea elgintelemi would make a motion for effecting this object, and , if, op investigation, it appeared that persons bad tampered with the wants of individuals, and had taken advantage of the discontent that meet be fell wherever went is found, to goad them on to acts of: desperalies, be knee of e. mean, se effectand as an, eaquig by Parliament to terminate the system of spies altogether. He could not see how the House ovoid refuse this enquiry ; and if it dared to do so, 'be .trosted it would be remembered by their con stitueuta. Mr. CANNING commented oe the nature of the motion before the Howse, and observed, the Learned Gentleman had Deed a kind of plea in bar, and asked the House if it would dare refute this esquiry. . . . 4 .- - • THE • * ST • TISSI4I .I . ''. .• • . . . - - • -.‘ ..- . --.-- -•-•"---- TRW . - . - . l ove tan pains to engetreietellieffisgsseposad this wise. -(ite_l. that `elate es at . 11 e re . leer * eir . alit oat W; 1 11 - a . --- , - ,. • •i t e by "" ral are tln g 117:21‘ittabrelieere* sirlis to be ih er-'.., .. ta , i , it Aisne ! Id' .tits inlittnik hire anent I believe to b e the fact :---he was 6 ' st illtmds•ell pt acril on sbe eeeple there. Tkia-aissecuitioa toot place oo v • „„ i d___L a -, - A i ___ . .„„, ~., , a arson Rimed eendrill (since goes to AlblOico) the %lb of Stay -and tie tbro.eated..abot he wow.' proceed No 'immourru ny'llig. Nina ;4 1 tit - goirtivi n fime oplian 4 4 I- to so ibo of these societies lit the aleimPolits crt- a N : 4610141 ir d s t a t i L a Leeds ,,aa i r the d2 d rtuwei p t i llani emo. ea tilt iihisee till Iseirreeeved rots -eridissee. , So Beau 'Waled for discussing she question of Reforef. .He day after. I believe (coatimeed, litr. 4. Beseeti) be did arripc 1146 4 4 : llith lis litml, Porn!, that !Oli v or r i ght 4 " 1 " l i mute d f r om London aith Pend rili ea the 441 b of there at the doe be stated, tor there it a letter of lib, earetfins. Rife t ioole sense mischief —be! he :week! Het. **ewe !.stint - _ _ , his lean,' 111Htlee hvi not come for an argil. t ofi that rtatintt; tee Alitiennium contempialvdi Onto person', had sot yet striae, when the is of Commons was to act under !vernal con- Asset, or when that 9*TE. 'eight be @writ' al from the tribal,' of ha,gio ft re. Tt.e Hun. ar.d 1 . . , -stned Oentli;men elliett drown this topic "Oho snit. —(A :single fetus thi (kposflitut)--h.' thr t•Parsiu:innary ....tinientivievesini*eitupelised by Vittiete, I or by . the fittest bireumnitins. The *as founded ea the meted Report - o'lhr Secret estetteittee Hoy • tben could Cu4rie bite been - cnetempiated by it ? but being contemplated, both toutd it be asked what '1 proceedings had Wee instituted artinti a King's '; 2 'dose. If, on the ;Aber band, Olivet teas meant; " o . t. 'it wits •cnntodeti tinti no proceediegs bad been - Ated against kid. Where the •w at the venality of Any enquiry ? Kr ;earl the concluders of a letter i swing the dangerous tendency of some mobs, frevi • the Lord Lieutenant of ' / the West Radio 4 of York+. shire, and were the Goserntnent to eesteet Inch in. (*rotation, they yea, *lvory, to be impeselled. It • • mertaioly was desirable that Inforsitslion sbovid be a akprived from the purest, sources ' • bet should • snao • come to the Secretary of Stat# a nd conspiracy was formed for taking the Tower add Bank, should the Minister Cyst volt,' 4 :* How triatty chillrert haseyou?"-- 4 •Sis."- 4 .4l•*.tnawy Rises.° ft. —6. Wny, my Lord, f had one, bet she raw away, cod now I have another, who Ido net believe is le. • gaily my wife."--t• Go, go sway," says the Meals ter, "who can credit one word )oo say? tee to vat, it be truth was known, you area polygavnist r.. Yoe could not hare been at the -Blue Boar—yo• loom nolhisig of ii6e tratsattlen."—(llear, lat;str 1 frost ) -it 114 men on the opposite side were to promoie monogamy and the perfection of connubial hliss, they might by this plan be very seecessfel, but it was net tinnily discernible how they could thereby strengthen tin . Constitution of the country. Sir S ROM I LLY explained. Mr. TiMiNEY said, that tiso—ainht Hon. Gen.._ *lemon (Mt. Canning) charged the authors of this motion wi►h absurdity, and that it could base ad practical object ; but there was a very intelligible one, to procure something formal on which to ground further proceedings. If an agent, though perhaps employed for a good purpose, uses his faculties for a bad one, it most at least be a misdemeanour. Bat Government dare not agree to the motion; they know that the pegs*. of Oliver is sacred, and that, if they attempted to touch spies there would be sock a retort as they could not bear. It was said that this liostruction to the Committee was useless—thei might do what it requires without it. Bat nothing was ' more proper to be referred to it than whet was do. sired by this motion, for str►tking more teaches .pub• . lie discontent than an indifference in this moose to. , the sufferings of the People. The Right lion. Gen tleman had confounded informers with spies. Vo. ' luntary informers were allowable, but be must ever condemn the employment of the latter. Is some way or rather the statement made this night respect. ing Oliver must be investigated. The lesity of tile Right Honourable Gentleman on this very important subject was highly reprehensible. Ile was one of the first to predict the rising talents of a Learned Gentleman opposite (the Solieiter•Gennral), end his opinions we cowiroted by the agreement of the late Mr. Horner; bet notwithstanding his admiration of his Islets's, lie was pained to hest. the Learned Gentleman this night, and to listen to him deliver opinions on the Law of England that tie could never subscribe to—namely, that • person once put on trial for • crime can never again, sc. quitted or condemned, appear as a witness... 6.. There came forth sock • quantity of information; from various and unconnected quarters, on the in famous conduct of spies, that • great load of guilt would lie somewhere, artless removed by the en. quiries of that Home. The Right How. Gentleman.- had read one letter of Lord Fits william's, because it gave an alarming picture of the state of the country in December, 1816. But he had not read a second letter from the same Nobleman, of a diametrically opposite tendency, when he had been appointed Lord Lieutenant of the West Riding of Yorkshire, nod had good opportunities of discovering the tree state of the disturbed district. This was any thing but candid. He believed to mite alarm was the drift of Ministers, in order to shot people's eyes to what they really were themselves. The Lord Advocate stated last night, that every man confined in Scot laud, was confined ender the Common LAW. Oa his own showing, then, there was no necessity for susoesiding the Habeas Corpus its that country. —Great. disaff►•ction had 'listed, but it arose from the general dioreas, and the acts of Spies.-6—lt was Oliver produced the explosion. Geotlemee were fond of prevention in theory, but 11.0•01' reduced it to predice. If Brandied. was incited. by the isfortration of Oliver, then the latter was guilty of the murder cotnroitted by ,the former.— There had been a severe system of treatment exercised on the unfortunate men confined in remote parts of the country by officers, thinking they acted con. forniably 4* the views of Government. If Mi. sisters did not consider this question, the country would say they were afraid of it ; and as long as there elided a free Press (and God forbid it should ever cease to eslst), so long the debates of that House would God their way into every corner of the .kingdem. There would be but one opinion os each conduct, and it might excite greater grim Ices to the Noble Lord than he yet saw exist, and in whit* more would agree in opinion. The Noble Lord triumphed, bet be. triumph would not be of long duration; the time will come when justice must be done, sad the Noble Lord himself he put on his ewe trial.- 7 .lLoad and reputed cheering.] The sOLICITOR•gENERAL and• Mr, TIER. NET mutually explained. - Mr. CANNING, in espian•tion, denied his hav ing made such an eofsk use of the ioinosunications sent by a Noble Karl (Fittwilliam.). The second letter had been read, acrd it was that spots which the &bete in. the Holm of Peers had turned. • Mr. TIERNEY repeated his former •ssertise, that the Right lion. Gentleman had made use of the one because it -suited his purpose, and kept back the whirr, which weed militate ag•tsst him. Mr. CANNING maintained, that 460 insinuation. of the Right Hon. Geodesist(' was oaf.ir. Ile bad ' no wish whatever to withuld any infutinstion with I s 'I - a'i .~