The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-02-01 00:00:00

. i V' el ie (panty in the country.—(Shoots of hear !)-o'ould coo rent to nothing short of having the Crown and Consti tetion prostrate at her feet.—(Hear, heat.)—While he lived, while he had the power to stand forward in the defence of the Throne and the Laws, he would never in sitruce sithinit to see this done. He would never suffer she Lunstitution to be trampled on by any itsdividual uhatever ; nor would lie unresistinAly endure ber mea wires to be promoted for party purposes.--(Hear.)-- What did the Hon. Member for.lEasex mean by saving he won'd no* vote one shilling of the supplies, lie was sire lie was too lintuane to 'object to this measure, and that be must have contemplated some pecuniary provi sion to be necessary for the Queen in whatever way the vli ages against her terminated. The amount alone could in any man's eyes be the matter for consideration. And if the Hon. Gentleman had perniitiral him to go on and unfold the proposition he bail to matte, without departing from the usual order of discussion, he would have discovered that it was not his intention to have touched at all on the subject of the Queen's guilt or in• imeence. He should have thought it unmanly to bring lier conduct judicially before the Mtile: nor was he prepared to put that to a derision upon one short vote, thick bad ocetyied the House of Peers so assiduously fir many month*. Rut was lie thereto'? to sit down adder all the taunts and revilings of the Gentleman op posite, beeped upon him and his colleagues for dis charging the most arduous duties ever imposed on any llinistersi Was he to antler them to call that oppres sion and persecution which bad been a most painful task, most conscientiously fnitilleti.—(Hear.)—Was to have the Gentlemen opposite assailing the preroga tives of the Crown ; without stating to the House. all the prudential considerations on record, staring them in the face, anti which they were bound to take iutu view, iii forming a judgment its this matter, consonant to the duties they owed to their Sovereigns anti to their ettuntry?-4 r aa he to suffer the Gentlemen opposite, ur their (tirade, to agitate the country to its totintlution, by continual gabbling paltry motions, such as those . Lronght from the North of Scotland, and others of a similar kind, without their ever daring to bring the q uestion fairly to iestie, or putting it on its broad prin , iples to a vote of the blouse?—(Hear, hear!) —Why did they no'. meet the justice of the case? Why did they resort to stieh opposition as the Noble Lord . % (A. Hamilton), and the Hon. Member's (we understood Mr. Wistern'a)? The thing was so ebvious, that every man with half an idea must see that all they were contending for was power in the state.—(Hear, hear!)—lt was for this they were agitating its peeve, and aggravating these distresses which the lion. Member opposite (Mr. Wt'teru), affected so deeply to lament. ill r. I ERN EV rose to order. The aaaertion that time lieu:tempo on his able of the House agitated and in flamed the country, merely for the sake of getting into place, could not, by possibility, he orderly. The SPEAKER sail, lie was waiting for the cmic h 'ion of the Noble Lord's sentence, to inform him that it was not in order to speak of any Hon. Member's ejict ieg to deplore the distresses of the country. Lord CASTLEREAGH assured the Ilan. Gentleman, that he hail not used the word to give him pain; than which nothing mild be further from his intention, nor less consistent with the respect be entertained fur him. Ile was most reluctantly impelled to pursue the coils, of argument in which he had indulged ; butt lie never eittilil allow the Hoes' , and the Country to he a, to the nature of the proceedings arainst the Queen, in the manner that had been attempte d by the Gentlemen opposite. 'the withdrawal of the Hill, he was ready to a.huit, waxen end to tlie iptestion of guilt and h'on'or, in as far as it was determined to originate 110 new pro ceedings. lint his Noble Friend (Lord Liverpool) in taking that step, was not to be conaideteil as hating tlwreby sacrificed his entire judgment upon farts. Ile llo s a-ailielis richt so refer-to the protests signed by Peers after the third reading. These formed public records which could not be put out of sight on this question. All that he could du was in making the provision fur Ilse Queen, to abstain from agitating the question of her #. tint or intuit:cure, and making the offer without askine airy admission of the former on her part. Parliament was not be disturbed from its course by her interference. She might, if she pleased, reject the pro %Ilion it rams to her in a proper shape, but the !louse had twining to do w:th her objectiona now. It was ler it, as slue to his Majesty, to proceed to the order of the day ea his mucous communication. And he protested against this a•tempt to disturb the peace of the country, or to dictate to the wirsoni of Parliament on a paint which mils: inn sitably lead to the agitation of other subjects, and to rolonged irritatien anal f e r m ent. Mr. TIERNEY ropeatea what had passed when he rest to cull the Noble Lord to order. The Nuble Lord waliseil him anti Isis friends of desiring power. Ile was tot one of those who liked to say that all his objects nese of another nature. On the contrary, lie confessed that he was ambitious of power, and that ler considered the adherence of party to be only advantageous in pro misting its attainment. lint if the Noble Lord meant that they would take power on such terms as those um which he and his colleagues hail held it, he begged Ictre 10 11110 W hack the aspersion with scorn. Ile titular'd that be would rather die on a dunghill, than take the hid ' s lbw for such services as he had seen performed. —(Dear, hear.)—lle felt some warmth iu making this statement, which lie hoped would he excused, as Ise was ready to excuse the Noble Lord for the heat which -he bail displayed. His warmth the Noble Lord imputed to 11111 anxiety to get into tact.; awl he could readily' attri bute the Noble Lord's heat to the dread of listing it.— (ilear.)--The Noble Lord was 110 W must guar:led allow the Queen's character; but every meeting thrtrietiont thit country proved the melancholy fact, that the r:.-esta lhallinent of her character was inconsistent with his rontioiting to hold office. The Noble Lord would re present it as unmanly to bring her guilt or i 'since in to question now: he did not know what his feelings might be at present, but he would say, that the 111S11104- iIIIIIS he threw out last night were most unwarrantable. 'rhea lie hail felt no reluctance at presnming upon her guilt. And if he abstained at this moment, it was only to attack the Message which she had sent to the House. With the framing of that paper lie had nothing to do, lint if lie had been in the Queen's place, it was just such a atweinent as lie wmnuhl have sent. The Noble Lord had iirerpreted it as setting herself in oppoattiou to Parlia ment. Ile thought it the reverse. It wax to avoid the possibility of such a position that she took the first op tiertunity of saying to them—" I learn vou are about to aome arrangement for me; take no troilltle about it, fir I will not accept any pecuniary provision, unless you absolve my character. •• This lie affirmed was the proper mars'. for a Queen til England to pursue. The Nuble laird also t tok merit to himself for not instituting any new preceedings: the reason far doing this was very plain— fir durst not. But he did what be mild. lit.; tore tip ail the old surface (as lie called it) of the proceedings in another place, and lie threw as much Win o upon the Rarer front them a, lie possibly wrist. Ni.,v further, he challenged the Moue to follow him in tliis, and to 'annul their opinion on these records.. lle (Mr. Time)) would du no such 'little. :•:or woulilie allow the appli cation to him of the Noble Lords charge of agitating the country. Ile, from the beginning, had not clone any thing of the kind. (In the con'rarv, he had acted lei mildly as to meet with the complaint of some of his "wn friend., anal even to incite the compliments of the Noble Lord. All that he claimed; and all he contended tar, hail been that when the case was closed, he should ti. , :tc there as if nothing had occurred, to examine it, form his opin i on. Was 111? 1101 V to be hampered oh these proceedings elsewhere, even ashen no Hill 14.11! come down to the House. lie looked on sach ~. . _ demand with perfect horror—with perfect horripea Ha was bred to the law, and the law abjured it. The e4ll-: cation of a gentlema• insured the utuisist repnguasiee' to it. The Constitution and all the principles of jostler% were hostile to it ; and be never did b*ltete that the desperation of a discomlitted Administration mold have driVen them to such a step.—(Hear.)—lt was not easy to comprehend the meaning of it in the phraseology of the Noble Lord, but he could read the sentiment more clearly laid down in his own paper.—(Cries of order.) —))yell, then, he would not refer to that; he would say lie hail heard it said by those who heard the Noble Lord.—(A laugh.)—The substance was. that a majority of the House of Peers had found the Queen guilty. He asserted that they did no such thing. The second reading had been agreed to, and not a verdict of guilty. He affirmed it; or of what use were the stages of a Bill ? What was the reason that fourteen who noted for the second reading did not vote for the third t Was it not notorious (he hail often done it himself in that House), that Hon, Members often voted for the second reading under the idea that the measure might he so moslelled in the Committee as to be entitled to their support which it was not in its then state. But here an assent to the second reading was to be presumed to be iquivalent to a verdict of guilty, upoo my honour. If that were the case, the most degraded slave in Turkey had equal justice with an accused Briton. On the con trary, it was generally understood that the first reading of a bill in that House was a matter of course to the Noble Lord who introduced it; and that the second reading made it the measure of the House. But, as the Noble Lord o as so fond of this countenance, why did not he take the third reading ? Because, on that occa sion, the tine moral feelings on which he rested were cunlined to Ministers themselves; to Ministers, so deep ly interesteii in the conviction of the Queen. Ile com pared this to the case of a deck' by a Jury, where unanimity teas required for a conviction; and referred to a discussion between Sir W. tirant and Sir S. Ito. 'stilly, in which the power to a Judge to remit part of the defendant's costs, in consequence of favourable cir cumstances appearing to him, was rejecteil, as encroach ing upon the proper province, and giving the Judge a discretion which lie ought not to possess. Surely there was nut a man who bad ever opened a hook, treating of the Constitution, oho must not feel, th.st if the claim to the reverse of this doctrine was tolerated, there would he at once an end to all the security of the people. If Ministers cost'si have the good hick to get a Bill of Pains and Penalties read a second time, the character of any person might lie ilieparaged, ausl no individual in the country was sate. But since then, since the withdrawal of the Bill, t he whole course of Ministers hail been to east a sti.. ma on the Queen. The Nelde Lord (Castleseali) hail stated his Noble Friend's (Lord Liverpool's) 'motives for with•lrawing the Bill. He lead wit, however, rrini oiled them that the Nsi'de Earl hot tleclarA if the Bill was lit passed she sliuttld be reinstated. Ilail she been re instated ? No, because the Noble Lord ts'astlrreagli) averred there was a moral co it iction that she was not entitled to the respect of Cie country. The No ble Lord sail it is lint a r !lit of public tourney, leaving all other consider.ci..:is out Of view. The Noble Lord felt AU lightly of :;it in;; away the public sooner, that lie would du it u::,!er any circumstances ; but be no.st, at least, see first whether the 'object was or was not worthy of it. With the opinion enter tained by the Noble Lord that the Queen, though technical's- conyic....l, hail sustained a 1111 oral con viction, he won Ivred muds that the Noble Lord could rise in that Iloiloe with a grave face to propose a grant of 5t ,000/. in favor of her Majesty. Ile hoped he was not very umusuatitiolun-d in the- lasagna.: he used. n lieu he, as one of the Guardians of the Publice Purse, declared, that he womb' not vote sixpence of the public money away till be knew why he was called upon to sin so, and saw the propriety of doing it. To him it appeared that the Queen hail been arquitteil, and he was therefore of o . picion that no traces of` the prosecution sought to remain. Was there one thing nnconstitntional in this? The Noble lath) haul said he and his col leagues hail no objection to be tried, hut then in saving this he had pia in one stipulation, that he himself Would draw the indictment. Ile (Mr. T.). was of opinion that the Queen was placed in the most ernel situation that ever any W(1111411 0111141 he 1.1ar. , .1 in. She had hem fully tried as far as she caudal he tried in the House of Lords. The Bill of Pains anal Penalties was not a mea sure which be could approve. The only pa 11:11 ea was, that it had to come before both !lenses of Parliament, and no verdict cosdal be prononnerd on the question, posiOy or not guil:y, till the proceedings on it were com plete in both those btattches of the legislature. The tours: which had been finally taken with the Bill was not a little extraordinary. Ile should be glad to know why the Bill hail not passed ? It was said to have been given up because the measure WAS not grateful to the feelings of the country. foal' the Noble. Lord per himself that the lower he was now taking would be grateful to the feelings of the public. If the line of conduct recommended by the Noble Lord were adopted by the House, it would then appear that the Lords, who did not pretend to represent the people, hut whose an thority was, for certain good reasons, made hereditary, had more feelingfor the people than their own represen tatives. Where did the Noble Lords in the other House of Parliament find the sense of the people? He could out tell where they sought it. Where did the Commons learn the sense of the people:—lm their own House, from the Petitions on the table. And yet, with these Petitions before them, they, the Representatives of the people, were expected to do that against the sense of the people which the Lords had rrin.wal to do. The Noble Lord had said, that he had a right to refer to the pro tests which had been 'were,' against not passing the Bill. By whom had the third reading been carried ? Ily his Majesty's Ministers anal by nobody else. When the Bill on the third reading being carried by a small majority, was in consequence given up, there were eight or tell Peers to whom he gave all credit for their in./isle and independent conduct, who having voted for the Bili its its previous stages, disdained to stand cap in hand to the Minister, and give it upon his bidding at the last, and accordingly signe.l a protest against abatidoning the mea sure. lint wereany of his Majesty's 31i IlienerS alllollg iilOlW who signs -.1 these protests —was the Lord Chancellor one of them ? No, he was no:. He (Mr. T.) hail never seen a change so sudden in his life. At one o'clock lie had seen a majority of the house in favour of passing the Bill, and within a few hours afterwards ' on hearing a speech of little more than five words from the Furst Lord of the Treasury, nearly all of them were of opi nion that no more ought to be dame, those only accepted who had signed the protests, to whom lie gave all credit for tlseir manly and consistent _conduct. The Noble Lord had a right to refer to protests, but Ministers had had no concern in them, an-I were in no way identified with those who, 'saving cute-1 for the first, second, and third readings of the Bill, felt it their dnty at last to complain that it was nut passed. Why dial those eight' or ten i'eers act such apart Because, as they said, they believed her Majesty guilty, or because they wislitsil to extricate her front the fangs of these who then had her in their power. Why was the Bill given up ? Be cause the Noble Lord at the head of his Majesty's Oorrrumeut knew the feelings of the House of Com mons to he so much against it, that it would never 11 • A course was taken which had for as, its object. to degr.ole the Royal Personage they had failed to convict. The origin:ll ev:lits,,in of her Ma city's name from the Ltudy 13., held to be as great an tipersiOn as could be cast on her character. In one of the protocols which had been published, it was stated that. " in the absence of inquiry, the opinion foniird me the conduct of her hlajetty most remain unchanged." Well they had had inquiry. and still it was seen that Mi naafis had adhered to the opinion with which they had oirigiemlly set oat. The NoblebLord now professed to what for tranquillity. He had no doubt that he wished fur tranquillity, and the Noble Lord would be very glad to have the Members of that House coming down tran quilly to vote the Supplies. by simply saying " aye" or "No." But he would ask if anyllentleman who heard him mould believe that the course taken by the Noble Lord was that which was calculated to tranquillize the country. Would any man say, " Ifvou, the House of Continuos. vote that the name or the Queen ought to be restored to the Liturgy, every thing will he tranquil, the country will be satisfied, and all will he well ?" He did not ex pect to hear any one bold this language, but, oil thecon teary, if he were to describe a person wishing to under mine the pnbiic peace—wishing to perpetuate the evils that had fallen on the country, and keep tip a lasting irrita don. he should describe the course of the Noble Lord as that which such a person would be most likely to take. The Noble Lord seemed to think, that if he paid the Queen MOM/. per annum, allowing her to lire where she pleased, that then all would he settled. In this he had deceived himself. He (Mr. Tierney) honoured the Queen fur the message which she had sent down to the House that night, as it marked a contempt for ntuney, and a regard for character above every thing. The Noble Lord had said, that the Queer', on the the provi sion being voted, might accept it or reject it as she pleased. He, however, did not know that they had any right to offer it in the manner proposed. The present he held to be an attempt (indirectiv made, because they wanted courage toslo it openly) to vilify and degrade the Queen. and this they were ever happy to do when they had the opportunity. He doubted n Nether, in !mint of form, they could toroceed to make the provision contem plated, on any timing contained in the King'.: Message. It stated " advances to have been maoe from time to time," and ambled, " tinder present circumstances, it would he for the House to determine what ought to he done." Hut ivlot was meant by " present circumstances ?" Ail lie knew was, that the Queen hall been put on Inver trial—that the proceedings had been abandoned ; that hitherto not ante si ogl e sixpence had been vo:eml :is a provision for her Majesty; and that in every possible way rare bad been taken to insinuate that she mi as entitled to no politiral respert.— The Noble Lord had said, that if her Maj , sty had he'll convicted, it would still hare been necessary to do smone thing to provide tar her maintenance. :llost undoubt edly this teas true. It would then have -en for thews to remember who she was—the imeigli! which she hail fallen. her former habits of life, and other cir..itaii eaticee, and these being considered, it would nut have been lila faith if a coinfortahle provision had not toren made for the Quern, even in that ease. lint. now hr was not prepared to sanction a grant of .10,000/. per annum, finless it were sliewn that her Majesty was Its bull is a rank as required it. Ile could vote a slim to an entire Queen, hot he knew net what ti vote r half Queen—to a tainted Queen. To an entire queen lie might readily tote fifty thousand pounds, and lie it:L.:lit perhaps think that was hardly stitfrient. The `mobil Lord had made some remarks on Cie intended motion of his Noble Friend (time Marquis of Tavistock) on the subject of time °Merits Council. The Noble Lord wished furs direct motion on the subject of the exclusion of her Majesty's name from the Liturgy. Ile should have it. But then it would be said," ll'. these Opposition men—nothing will satify them.—livery thing was quiet and going on well, when they come town m.gain with a new ms tion to agitate the country agaimi." If the Opposition acted such a part, it on:rht to be remembered that it was called for by the Ministers. They had repeatedly said, " why not bring a direct motion ?' He woalil now take upon himself to say that a direct motion they should have. —(llear.l----It was necessary that a direct emotion should he e for restoring her Majesty's miasmic to time Liturgy, )is it this were not done, it would appear that the House lent piles( ear to time Pe titions oldie !wimple. The state of this country and time world was very different front what was known 40 years *go. The lower classes (as they were called) were now well rdimeated, amid were capable of forming• a judgment on political questions, but that judgment was likely to be warred by distress. nder such cirmunytances care ought to be taken not to do that which must irritate them. It ought to be remembered that the whole ques tion now before them came to this—whetier or nut, an acquitted Qmieen miss entitle , ' to the lernefit of an acquit tal :—(Hear.)—The Noble lewd expected, wit a direct motion. a large majority. Ile teas perhaps now more sere of it than he was on a form-r debate. But many who totem; for the motion then offered as an 34tiencliturtit, and which certainly was not very iiiireasonable, at seven o'clock in time ',mewing, would not vote for the Noble Lord on a direct motion for the restoration of tit.. gliPen . s name to the Liturgy. Many iiiroihers roul , l not return to their homes—to their clubs—:o the so cieties in which they moved, having voted on a direct motion, that exclusion of the Quern's name was neither vior inexiwilient. Poic once done, it should seem that it was not to he undone, and the sale: ) . of the State, the dignity of the ',wet', out the tr!•iquillit) of the pithily, %ere alp , n be ri.zlieel; and an act once dime by the litiisters • might riot he altered. Be lieve me, Sir, (said Mr. Tierney). the Noble Lord may talk as loftily as lie !drawl, but it is urns firm conviction that.ber Majesty's name will be restored to the Liturgy. (Hear, hear, hear !)—lf he were to }ro out that night with only ten Members, and the othet six hundred and forty-eight were to appear against him, still should he believe that this subject bad such hold on the public mind, that unless the Noble Lord haul fresh charges to prefer against the Queen, her Majesty's name must be replaced. in the Liturgy. If the. Noble Lord had no new charges to prefer, it ought to he at mice restored. Aliniaters were bound to do all they could to allay the irritation in the public mind, and lie defied the N o bl e Lord to show how this combd ever he effer . ted, unless the Queen, now that she was acquitted, was allowed the bill benefit of an acquittal. Mr.:'. BATHURST began in so low a tone, - that he was not distinctly audible. We understood him to be vindicating and explaining the King's Message, the pre liminary part of which be contended calamine-al a clear reconnuenilation to make provision for the Queen. The Message stated, that her Majesty had not had as yet any provision, and from that toight be gathered the meaning of the word" present circumstances." Surely ParKtment was the fittest tribunal to e:•tertain the ques tion of th: Queen's allowance. The Noble Lord had pros erly alluded to the matters in the other House, for they were now become the property of the By the second reading of the Rill, the principle of it was adopted, as he contended. That House and the Country might judge of the evidence in the other House, with out takiuF into account the i juidge 'I li n-nt4 of their Lord ships. e Queen now s toou iii the same situation as if she ha I never been accused. She was nat entitled to Galt a boon -from the Crown. The Motion of the Noble Lord (A. Hamilton) was hilt a tri , k of political rale diencv. The lti.ht Hon. Gentletwan concluded, by say ing, tiiat hr ahunld say no more on the principle of the amnion, and that tha Committee was the proper place for going into its details, and as..ertaiiiing what sum ought, or not, to be granted to true ljneen. Lord FaLKPATaiNit called upon the [lona! for their own sake, for the sake of their constituents, and for the sake of the can ntry at large. to pause before they prozerd ed farther. Praua the tithe the first IlleiLl;p1 was sent down about the Queen, he hail never ceased to deplore _..►: the pit forbid Moisten beg It right to Wilk EVeO asp bad bat served to eat tlt him mere sag mete in the opiates he bad Origittally held, as to Lb* calamities width the 'agitation of 'hit . queitiOn was produce in the conntrv, and he would appeal to all tied had taken plate, if these discussieus could now proceed without producing the most mischievous conse quences. He complained of the Speecbt% of the Noble Lord opposite, and in particular of the sarcasm, which . he had uttered when introducing the proposition for making a provision for the Queen, while speaking of the "allegiance of her subjects," and the " tender interest" which she had inspired. The Noble Lord (Lord Castlereagh) had talked of the unconstitutional errors iuto which her Majesty had fallen. This lan- Image was held by the organ of the Administration wilier had introduced the late Bill of Pains and Persil ties, by a Ministry who, after aliandoning it, denied the accused the benefit of an acquittal, and contended that a technical acquittal was a moral conviction! He denied that it was clear that 123 Peers believed her Majesty to he guilty of adultery. The Preamble of the Bill set forth a variety of arts, and the Peers who voted for the Bill inieht hare thought her Majesty ought to be de graded for taking liergemi into her service, or tor other acts charg,eil, without believing her to have committed adultery. Ile inquired why the Bill was tot pressed? Why did net Ministers take a technical conviction ..s well as a moral one? It was because they were afraid of bringing the Bill to the House of Commons. He thought lie hail a right to state, as he multi prove it to demonstration, that - 123 Peers iii the House of Loris hart not voted for the Bill, in the conviction that the Queen was guilty of adultery. But if it were so, it was to overturn the general system of our jurisprudence, not to give a party acquitted. throng,' a thaw in the indictmen;, or any other circumstance. the benefit of an acquittal. That the Movie and Ministers might have time to re consider the subject, before they came to a decision en the question now before them, lie moved, as an Amend ment, " that this House do now adjourn." The Gal lery was ordered to he cleared, when :(Ir. BILL WNE rose: he &Med that the Noble Lord (Castlereagh) had given any opinion respecting the guilt of her Majesty, But he %visited to know what t h e \ n id e Lord opposite (Folkston') meant, when he talked of her Majesty's innocetire : —the innocence of 11110 against whom a Bill, charging. her with adultery, bast been read a second time : —who, hr .110.11 second rearlin•g, was virtually declared to be guilty of the !lighten tit% fence which a Queen Consort could com m it. A ni l was it tit that this female el lid receive and rohty the 5am....• honours which had been granted to a fate virtuous Queen Charlotte ? lie thought the sum of :111,000:. tvould he an ahnoulaet allowance for a Queen whose ch i• racier, to say the !wilt of it, was inspect. il not to i•• good ; and if a smaller sum Were propos e d, ht! 3110:1: rote f ur it. After the tiallery was again ordered to lie cleared. Mr. LAMB rose. iir said his wish always is is th it this business at tie% er be brimalit forward. 1s 1:10 proceedings against her 31 iji•lt'y had bees, brought to totorlasititi, lie t cans der ;.er.us virtually acquitteil, and therefore, he thought her name ought to he restore.' to the Littm:y. On these grounds, lie also thought, !Old u - as emitted to a provision. At the same time lia thought it wonted have hem altogether us favourable fir her it she had in the first instance accepted the 50,00% , !: a year it hick had bei.it Offered to pier, before any trial came on.—(Loud cries of Ilrar,hr:ir.")—:\ sill crept at the conclusion of the trial, it *mild base been as %rell if she had given sip this point of the Liturgy.-0 fear, hear.)--.And although he would not presume to con demn, be conlel not help lamenting the '.Message ivlii..ll her Maje sty had sent down to the House that d a y. It wouldunwise for the House to alter its course in con sequence of that Message. In pursuance then of the ditty which he owed to his cuitutry, 'id with a Vise' I.f t•alatink the agitated silate'of nvptivriilaria, We Atm! 1 vote fur the House going into a Cominittee.—(!lest;, hear.) Mr. 111101 . 1; HA M said, the subject had been so 131 illy and so ably discussed, anti the sPeerit of the Nolile 1.-r had been so fully answered by his Right Mtn. Fri. , n I (Air. Tierney), that hr wroth' not have said a single word, but have left the Mouse to pursue its own eimr-e, hail it not been for one or two observations which ha 1 fallen from his llon. Friend whin had last spoken. lie col:: net sit silent when those observations were made. lilt he iiiltst oral., on the part of her Majesty, that site had b•a•it nit only virtu ally artlnitted , but acquitted iu ever), sem,. of the WOr.l, and th.it a taunt pers erse iltlig . 1111•!it WI hut- raise h... 1 appeared in more parts of the l•cise 'live one, an') just now bad been pronounce , ' frosts platter where lie least expected it.—(llear.) —lit. i r tte..l remind his Criend of the purport of his reinariss, awl he would ask him whether lie had dealt f tidy by t::a mk t all"- 1-1 her rotain.wi j , isti - e? In this' metieetiievit and t..l' tt !Aitlecontst.toithrproceedieiviag.ii:lo 11-r .11 .jest', . v thing. was .tt rung that she did, and every thing. seas ti Olt that was daft* against her. At the the trial—at the di rent stages, wise flier she claimed Ilse r;;:lits of justice, or whether, at its conclusion, she roquired those privileges which its co.:1- menceusent bad furnished grounds for denying, all ine% with the disapprobation of his lion. Friend. When, ter her acquittal, matters had assumed a new sli ye; when her prosecutors hail abandons' I their own ineastir?; when facts nod circumstances had been totally altered; when the King himself, in his speech from the Throw.. speaking with a voice which every holly understood— with a voiee that had extended to ail parts of the coo tory —hail declared the proceetliie , for ever closed ; and when this result could be attributed to tole reason only—taut truth had been made to appear anti that she hail been de clared gniltlessof the chargeoltrought against lie r,still slie was in the opinion of his Ilvia.Frieud, as if she bail been con victed.—(Loud cries of hese.) lie wouldlook to the wt., 1 her judges, to her prosecutara who had become judges, to tier prosecutors who held their places on the condition of fooling her flaky, ;and he would Lind a verdict of her inotwence. His Hon. Friend confesse.i that Ministers could do nothing in their desperate at tempt against her ; he agreed, ,lie said, with her Ma jesty suit the country § that Mioisters had done wrong:a striking her name out of the Liturgy, and therefore site should give sip the isoiut.—(tries of hear). lie (Mc. Lamb) denounced the proceedings as unjustiliabie an.l tending to the disturbance of the country, and there fore the Queen ouelit to crouch to thew awl Omit their jnstice.—(Cries of hear). After her prosecutors ha 1 been obliAed to abandon the proceedings against her, from theft. inability to substantiate them, from the twal failure of the evidence upon which the charges restesi, she ought, in the opinion of his lion. Ftien•l, to collie forward and to cogregs herself guilty. Ms lion. Frio.:l4l agreed with her 3lajesty and the country that there w.ts no reason of expedienc4, or sense of justice, in omitting her name in the Liturgy ; and that the public agita.!sia arose from that omission ; and therefor, to restore tr.t3- tenility, she, the aggrieve -1 party, should come forward and make an additional sacrifice, anal abandon her own ti defen c e, b e c a u se h er •essies ba il abandoned, their at tae:;,—(l,ond cries of hear, hear.)—The reaaoning of hie Ifon. Fee ell ha.' been anticipated and aatictienetl he the Noble Lord who hal brought forward the distinction lw. tween a technical acquittal and a virtual conviction ; if lie (Mr. liroughatn) had at any time un•lervalti the duration of the Liturgy—if he had thought it at first 4 matter of less importance than it reanv was—if lie bast even entertained a "1014 upon the subject, the Noble Lord had convinced him of its importance, anti reliccnl him from his doubt. On the discussion of his ilon.Fr:eu 1 Mr. Wilherforces motion. the Noble Lord had begets by treating the etc-lash - in as a stigm t, and he now sup ported it un a principle of law entirely new—a principle geq" •1 M 1 .iinie ...mur..... e .y i I ' , 710 .