The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-02-17 00:00:00

I , •n the trial against hitn,—((fear, hear,) —as well as the names of all the jurors by whom he was to he tried. When the trial came ou, no witnesses could be re-ex amine(' ; and, what was perhaps the greatest &than- Lige of all, counsel was, from lir st to last, allowed to the defendant. The only innovation of tt bleb he was aware, was the introduction of the English law of . %mum, which had Wen made applicable to Fastland at the time of the Union ; and he admitted that the 'proceedings under the law were not so favourable to the accused as those under the law of Scotland. Mr. KENNEDY meant to propose that the bill should be printed, and read a second time a week hence, profrrnae, with an understanding betweeu the Learned Lord and himself, that it should stand over till April, subject to acy future r obtponctuent that might be necessary. Mr. M. A. TAYLOR was not disposed to agree with the view which the Learned Lord bad taken of the criminal courts in Scotland. Ile adverted to the sew teoce passed on Mr. Muir in 1791, and on the autho rity of the ablest lawyers of the day, Le professed himself prepared to contend with the Learned Lord, that the court, in passing that anatence, had exceeded Its powers. I lie LORD ADVOCATE explained, and stated his rt•atlitiess, whenever occasion should offer, to demon strate the legality of that lodgment. The question had recently undergone a solemn discussion in the bttyregOE court of Scotland, and the legality of the hen teuree had been established by its 'decision. 111 r. J. P. GRANT could not sit in silence, and hear it said that a tioletnn decision of the supreme court of Scotland had approved of that judgment, when he 'strew that the ablest judge on that bench had expressed a different opiuiou ; and he was prepared to asset t that Ciere was no lawyer of eminence in Scotland who did not entertain at least the gravest doubts on the sub ject.--((lear, hear.) The b:11 was then read a first time, and appointed to be read a second time on Thursday next. It was dered to be printed. Mr. MARK VAT presented a petition from the mer e:ante:Lod others engaged in the trade to North Ame r:ea, praying that the House would nut consent to any I:iteration of the laws relating to the importation of t..:.!ier that might give an advantage to fureignera.— Orlered to be printed. IRISH UNION DUTIES. Mr. CURWEN presented a petition from the town of Kende!, in Westmoreland, praying the House to 'eoi.sitler the propriety of repealing the act of last ses sion, for coatitioing the Irish Union Duties. The Von. Mention' enforced the prayer of the petition, and suggested the propriety of appointing a committee to inirtire into the subject. Sir H. PARNELL supported the petition, which lis conceived to involve a question of great importance to • the country. Mr. C. HUTCHINSON deprecated the object as in .jurious to the interests of Ireland ; and he could state trout his oo u knowledge, that if accomplished, it .would throw a great number of persons out of bread. Mr. LITTLEION and Lord ALTIIORP were in favour •f the prayer of the petition. Sir J. NEWPORT could not see bow toe going into a committee on this subject could injure the manu factures of Ireland. The intercourse between the two countries ought to subsist upon the same footing as the intercourse betweew any two ports of Great Britain. Mr. PEEL felt himself hound to express his earnest Lope, as one connected with the county represented by Lis. lion. Friend behind him (Mr. Littleton), but Touch 5:. ire as one deeply interested in the prosperity of Ire land, that his (Light lion. Friend would give his earliest vonsithrration to this important subject.—(Hear, hear, hear.) —Ile was perfectly certain that it would he for the interests both of Great Britain and Ireland that tirese heavy restrictions, which only fettered and im p ale:I their mutual communication and prosperity, ar.oniti he removed. 1 he I'HANCEL' , OR of the EXCIIEQI EIL said that it was impossible for hint not to give some explanation butt. of iris conduct, last session, in proposing the re- Lewal of these duties, anti of the general principles by whieh he should be guided as to this matter. At the end of ISM government were most seriously urged and entreated not to take the Irish trailers by surprise, in onsequetire of a sudden reduction of these protecting duties. A variety of weighty difficulties, however, had orceurred upon this subject, to his Majesty's govern went Cand he did still doubt whether inconveniences %mild not arise from the revision of this system, much greater that had yet been experienced from its conti nuance. .The ayatem of drawback' and countervailing duties, which the institution of the protecting duties bad instituted, he did, however, consider to be unwise dad impolitic ; and be entirely agreed with the Honour . qble Batonet opposite, that the sooner it cott:d be re formed sad altered the better.—((Hoar, bear.) Mr. U RICE FITZGERALD was very glad that this anititin had. It length, been brought miller the con sideratioa of the House; but he was particularly pleased with the Manner in which it bad been treated. lie must protest igainst the doctrine of raising a ny revenue by charging a tlnty np m the intercourse between the two countries. It was tin injury to the manufacturer, whose goods were to be soli!; ana an injory . to the consumer, by wham they were to be purchased in the other island. 'to illustrate the impoliry of the prevailing system, he seed state hut one fart ; for the authenticity of whi ch be could appeal to the Right lion. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Pert.) When Mr. Peel was Secretary of Ireland. lie (Mr. Fitzgerald) found out cases, (which he commu nicated or the *Right Hon. Gentleman) in which the enatorn-hone charges upon the freight of vessel s, en gaged in our own coasting tradeonly, actually amounted to a duty of VC per Cent. Mr. CURW.b4N.elsosely mg :tined. Mr. SHAW said, that when the renewal of the pro- Meting duties was first proposes by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, he presented several petitions against tneasarre, the intelligence of which bad created great alarm among his constituents.. Sir lIEXRY PARNELL said that he had been suisunderatood. It was assumed by the hon. member for Cork that be was anxious for the redaction of th:se duties at once. On the contrary, he is hilted them to be gradually reduced. Mr. H''TCHINSON explained. An Hun . : Ileitnim said that these duties were de precated by all parties; bat there was oneclass among those who bad been mentioned as aggrieved that had net been nabsed—he meant the agricultural interest, who were, however, severe.sufferees. After a few words from Mr. BROWNE, which we' could not heat, the 'potitiOn was brought up, read, and orderefil• to be printed. • • Mr. ARBUTHNOT laid lipid &hatable the esti mates of Oil *eonnalloaelat. tiimMing, and barrack departments lorllsegurieni year. THE: ST 14, Mr. IIORACE TWISS gave wilier, that be should .1 on Monday fortnight, move (or leave t,) bring in a 1 bill fur the greater dispatch of retain Wiliness Nth Court of Chantcrv. [We underttood the motion to apply to matters of bankruptry]: -- j Mr. t lIETWYNDE moved fur a retort' of all, lines imposed by the Court of King's Bench, and ofl all t‘tirli as have been paid within the last 3 years. 'I he names of members absent from the ballot of tte4lay, and ordered to be set aside, were directed W reportel on Movolav nest. COURT OF SESSION ACTS. The LORD ADVOCATE moved that the report received. Mr. CREEVEY wished to know from the Learne d Lord whether the new hill, proposed to be I , rought in, was occasioned by the suggestions of the Parl.ia4 t mentary Cotontissioners. The LORD ADVOCATE replied in the Ann, ative. Mr. CREEVEY said that it appeared then to be the satne course that was adopted respecting the Courts of Irrbiutl ; but c. 4 rtainly wore inforina!iva o ught to have been giantetl. The subject ought to have been referred to two select conituittees--a cow- mittee fur each county. Mr. KE:NEOY thought the eppointment of som mittees would have been inadvisable ; but he should wish to be informed if the provisions of the bill bad all been recommended by the commissioners. The LORD ADVOCATE said that lie would stifl ingly he every information in the proper stage ; but he could now say that they were generally approved of by the commissioners. The report was received, awl leave was given to p bring in a bill in pursuance of the resolutions. IRISH JUDGES SALARIES. 'llse house resolved itself into a Committee un this subject. On the 'notion of Mr. C. GRANT, the reports of the Parliamentary Commissioners was referred to the Committee. Several sows were voted tolls, officers of the eliffer- .1 eta tour:* of law in Ireland, amid the report was ordered to be received on Monday. COMPENSATION TO THE CLERKS OF THE COURT OF ADMIRALTY IN SCOTLAND. The LORD ADVOCATE wuved that,tlre report be brought up. Mr. CHEEVEY objected to this motion. To him this topic of compensatio► wai one of great sitspis ion. (Hear.) —If they were trustees fur a private individual and not for a distressed people, they would examine every claim of compensation with great care, and even with suspicion. Whether compensation ought or ought not to be granted si 14 be ascertained by careful in spection of the facts He would therefore move an amendment t h at the report he brought up un Monday se'nuight, and upon that amendment he would take the sense of the house. Mr. KENNEDY said be had thought that the Com missioners were too much disposed to give compensa tion. lf, however, the recommendation cause hem them he would agree to it ; but as no information ..f that kind had been given, he would support the amend ment. The LORD A DVUCAT K said he bad no objection to delay whets the object was to obtain information. But he would say, respecting compensation in this ease, that if Parliament thought proper to abolish offices on the recotau►endation of the Commissioners, and the necessary and unavoidable effect was to deprive indi viduals of otlices with which they were invested for tife,, it was but fair to give them compensation. If the lion. Member (Mr. ('reevey) would consent that the report !boob' be brought up now, the consideration ot it might be delayed till Monday se'nnight. When the que.stion was pit, Mr. CREEVEY called for a division, and the gal lery was nearly elearel. when Lord CASTLEREAGH was seen on his legs, but was not heard in the gallery. The report was then h: • .;;ht up without a division, and the further consideration appointed for Monday se'nnight. FLAX AND corrON ACTS, The order was read, and postponed till Monday next. ARMY FATIIIATES. Lord PALNIERSTON brought up the Pi timates of land forces. Mr. HUME inquired if the military stores, we be lies?, were included. Lord PALM IC itSTON 'replied in the negative. The estimate.; were ordered to be taken into cons iteration this day fortnig.ht. • Malls,' MUSEUM. Mr. LENNARD said, that in bringing forward the subject of which he had given notice, he would remark that the subjects of natural history, and the Elgin marbles, in the British 3lur.eum, were with gust liberality claws n open to the public. Bat he had to complain that there was a ,litheulty of access to other parts of the Museum, which were nut less iotportaat or less interesting. In France public establishments of this kiwi were accessible with every possible faci lity ; awl lie might make the sause Remark of the tleological Institution in this country. why, this, should not every facility be given to the visitors,ef the British Museum? if the officers were net milky rous enough, let their a*evber he increased; if thpit salaries were nut large enough fur socii roustnnt attendance as might be required, let an inereasecof salary be granted. 'flue lion. Gentlem in then weint on to say that stranzers were not admitted to certain parts of the lit itish Mitsetum without t rennimentiations trout the Trustees, and this, he conceive.!, was making that which was for the pblic itenefit an object of pri vate favour and patronage. His object on the present occasion was, that the accounts of the numl.er of per sons admitted, and also the number of applications for admission, to those parts shouts' he submitted to the House, before the estimates fur this establishment were brought forward. lie concluded by moving 1 that there be laid before the House an nceattnt of the 1 number of applications for admission to the reading rooms of the British Museum ; also for the same to inspect the coins and medals nut generally shown ; also to inspect the prints, drawings, and manuscripts, or any part thereof, not generally shows; and also thr number of such applications which were complied with, the motion to extend to all such application* made within the last five years. Mr. C. LONG said, that his object in rising was not to oppose the 'notion of the Hon. Member, bat to assert the House that it was net ton the wish thou the duty of ~~~ ~ ~fi SMAN. - st --- - the Trustees of the British Museum to give every facility to the public who required access to that establislmoent. There were to o classes of persous who required admis sion—the tirst consisted of those who came fur the pur looses of general inspection, and to that class very great facilities had been afforded within the last few years; and he the returns made to the House it appeared that the number of such visitants was not leas than 511,000 in the year. The other class of persons who required admission was the much more important one ; it consist ed of literary men and artists, who came for the inspec tion of the drawings and medals. It must be obvious to the House, that it would be dangerous to admit strangers iudlscritninately to such places; and that therefore some restrictions-on admissions were necessary. lie happened to know, that, by the general admission to the valuable ,lihrary in France, eery considerable losses were sustain ed. 'I tie question then was, whether the restraint a dopted at the Brutish Moo-emu was too great or too little? It was said by the lion. Member who introduced the Tao sign that no) pet son was admitted to certain parts hut by the recommendation of sonic of the trustees ; hut it ' should be recollected that there were 43 trustees, and several of the principal officers of the place, to any of whom an application might he made, and who would not refuse it when fair claim was missile. The o fficers were all disposed to afford every facility in their power, and if any enniplaint of neglect on this head were to be [ made, it would meet with immediate attention. In con I l elusion, he stated that the trustees could have no objees lion to give any account to the House which might b . l required. Mr. It. GURNEY and Mr. BRIGHT concurred in what bad been said respectiug the facility given to the public in this establishment. A Nlestaen, whose name we could not learn, ex pressed a similar opinion, anal added a suggestion that it would he better to erect a new building fur the re ceptions of the works of arts anal science than to ex pend such large suns, on the repairs of the old build ing. Ile had no doubt that if a proper receptacle were erected many valuable works would be bequeathed for their reception. Ife Impel, that lion. Gents. would bear this suggestion in ILI el when they came to vote the annual grant for the Alto. cum. Mr. BAN li Is S, sen. concuirreo4 in thinking that the principal building was nut in that state which was fit tor its destined purpose. This applied pattieularly to the gallery for t h e Athenian marbles, but he thought thaf if additions and improvements were made pro gress.ively, year by year, it would he lit for the accom modation of the Wilk. In c inclusion, the Hon. lientlentan observed that it was the uniform inject of the trustees to avoid every facility to pes 60113 of sCiCilte 'vim visited the establish oat. TWA:HAM:CLIMB of the EXCIIEVER, after the testimony whirls was borne to the inclination of the trustees to give every accomtaodation toll's public did not consider that it was necessary to pet the establishment to such trouble as the present motion would require if carried. He hoped, therefore, the Ilan. Member would not pees it. Mr. 11. ti. BENNE I' thought it is (lute, to hear tes timony to the great facility afforded to all persons who visited the British Museum). Ile was aware that, at Paris there was much more easy access to the public institutions than lucre ; but at the same time he was aware that indiscriminate admission gave rise to giesit losses. After 4 few words from Mr. Sykes, its allusion to the fees exacted for admission to Westminster Abbey, and from Mr. Leonard in reply, the motion was agreed to, and the accounts ordered to be pro duced. ORDNANCE DEPARTMENT. Mr. H( - NI E then rose to draw the attention of the House to the Ordnance estimates fur the present year, and to submit a motion on that subject ; the reasons for which he should deem it his duty to state in the first instance. It was impossible for the !louse to judge what redactions were practicable or expedient, or to what extent they ought to be carried wLilst the exist ing system of account between the public and the ordnance Department was allowed to pr , wail. The Commissioners of Military Inquiry bad in one of their reports advised that a iliikrent form of accounts should lie adopted, and it was certainly sing itlar that the House should have hitherto been content to vote the sums demanded, on an inspection merely of their total amount, The reasons for setting out these accounts in !rieater detail would appear manifest on a reference to the last ten or twelve years, during which it would be found that tie snots actually disbursed did net cor respond u ith the finance accounts. In the statement which he was about to make, he should confine him self entirely to the Lonal sum charged against the • public. In Ow Ital. 11517 the sum charged was one million four hundred and thirty five thousan 1 pounds, hilst it appeared in the finance accounts to be only one one hundred and eighty-nine thousand pounds. In 1M IS, t:ie estimate was 1,2110,000 t, and the actual expenditure 1,40u,0e11/. In Ito% the estimate was 1.100,1100/., and the amount in the last FinaticeAe conn ,was 1,538,1 1 00/. being a ditrertuce 400„0001. which had in no way been aecnouted for in that Douse. In order to awes-lair at what ra'e the expen diture might be reduced, for reduced it must be, it was necessary that the House should have some points of compari.ron, and with this view he would compare the present rate of expenditure, with the expenditure at &given period before the last war. He requested the attention of the Douse to the expenditure of the Ordnance Department in the years 1791, 1792, 1793, rornpared with that of the years 1811 k, ISI9, and 1820. In WA the expenditure was Zi:56,01.10/.y in 1792, 419,000/. ; and in 1793, M 3,0001. ; so the avera-e expenditure of the three years was about 440,000/. Let the !loose compare this with the ex tentliture of the three last years. In ISIS it was 1.400,000.'4 in IMI9 it was 1,500,0001.; and in the present year it would be 1,390,0001. It would be fiund, in fact, that the estimate of 18.20 exceeded tie estimate of 1819, by nearly 200.000/. As the es timates were now laid before the House, it was quire inpossible for any Member to know what was going on in this department, and be should therefore lay it ground lutists present motion by stating a few items,in ordet to shev the House to what extent retrenchment was prac ticed*. Ile should be able in the coarse of this in quit: to satisfy the house, that no sooner was any retreichment made in one departinentt than the antotht, and more than the amount of that retrench mentswas immediately added to some °diet depart meat. The salaries in the Artillety Departmen t lissom/ad now to 8,3271. more than the SUM declared to be 4411cient in the 13th Report of the Commis sioners )1 Military Inquiry. is the year 1782, the w an h d ole pi rs ti f i.4 ttc ,i t i l t-i 1 departments,Estall ials fe:i t t a , s i n o r n ls i i:l: 3 ;_s , : ., t i l i t o e im T 7l: 1796, when the Finance Committee laid their rte - before the House, it was returned of 51,611: I is 11305, it was fixed at 91,6001.; in letie, t h e ii . o ; lifted became 1411,0001.; and six months afte r l i 4 t f ‘ r ix o amounted l l l l l l / l l l a l l l b Pl fri 2 n e.rl r .'e ed la) o ll'u e r e 7 - 1 1 , 1: t er lt I. : 71 t rea b s e nt ai lo' n wi s g aP le r.rt i ii t Th e el m di i rill : - : Tower and Pall-hall Departmeist was nearly *Ate what it was in the year 1796. There wa s a e.....6. 1,..... 44 30,000/. gratuities fur length of services, a au t a • t:3 f r o :c r a‘e n :ii s t e nie r c l eih y P4su d ill : ti d ,:(lll4l.7° n n f a st lts.lgc r sib eee ovaenrt i g v he e ld: 2 ftt o :l:l , re f i ;l tlo%.l.lls.l:ia . ,y'rb w iloni a :% s ihielr. n i mor tie:111:1:11 : 41116ii s its receipt of 73,11011/. a rear—(clear, lieu, h en) ._ The 2s e: : ; 4o47l s l . ll t w t l l : ; t l .:se fi h r r a i s o r i g n g t S d r a a t i t l ai t e e i b ili c o u li n n d t o e l f i r e tl t s i f i l t:l i lo h o i e t f a se , 6 l . r i alaa s A th i e t tz :::, 1796, and it was expressly stated to be only ' i i — and granted on account of the extraordinary is tatime l: the price of provisions. Let the tleuse mark The * gress of this tranaartion. The yam was gradnalljl: cre ases! from the year 17% till 1812, when it as - 3 t4 to 8,000/. The nett year it became 9,600 L, the mu . year 10,0004 then 15,0001., 210611., and so an t uti now amounted to 30,11001. And this, the House week observe, was a sum granted to this department to eaahle them to meet the pressure of a temporary rise in thi price of provisions! In the year 1796 the Private a t . eretary . of the Master of the Ordnance, who peersrt are no services for the public, and wars merely engaaw i t , the prix •sa affairs of the Master-general, receivar a ii . lary of 3001. a year. The salary of this Prints Se. critary had hoen increased to 2,6'.10/. a year, a id t h e last Committee of that Hottse made a great merit of re• sliming it from 2,01)01. to 1,5001. a year. '1 lie saliva of the Public Secretary of the Master-general of the iha twice had been increased fotirfold. The Are sf L A Under Secretary having been declared useless, te I Connuittee of tliat House bad been abolishes!, bat iii ' the House suppose that the salary of NO!. a year tat therefore saved to the eonntry ? No; there f t ,pp ek i to be two I •lerks in the Office sail 3001. a year was se tnallyslivisled between them.—:(l leer, hear, and laughter' The saute profuse and profligate expenditnre toot pare in every other brands of this department. The Sao , keeper at Dover had received a salary of Wk., sag h now re:.rest upon a pension of 3391. a year. The lea. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Ward) bad not deitil the amount of the salary, but he, (Mr. flume) was sorry to hear him contradict the statemee of the • Storekeeper having retired, because he must have known that a person named Lamp ley, a Freeman of Queenburaugh, was appointed • suceeed.hitu. The salary of the Storekeeper at hoer, in the year 179 G, when he had much more shoves perform than at the present time, was only 120/., sad it had been progressively increased till it was sew 5110/. a year. The lion. Meagher went on to sheer that the amount of expenditure had increased is the same propartion iu the Colonial Deputise*, by a camparison of items in the year 17%, aad at the present tints., at Malta, Gibraltar, Barham, and the Cape of Good Hope. There was a charge of 3000/. a year for al establishment for the Mk nufactnre of gunpuweea at Feverrhatu, where there was not a single barrel of gunpotvder. In point M fret, the mills at Feveraliam had been let. la 1.06. it at the period when there was notch boast of money, and after those mills wese let, a new clerk of the sae of Milienzie was anointel—(Hear.)--More than a Captain Hely was appointed an inspector of powder, altholieli there wee no gunteitysler to insert (A tang's). If the establishins•nt at Faversham en got rid of, the country would not only save 411001. a year, but it could dispose of the houses—fur there, • well as at Sheerness, the various clerk, have hones; la that they mimic there, but they rent Them out to eta% ' particularly at Sheerness, the clerks themselves resat at taneenborongle—(Hear!)—Even et Sheerness% ii 11- si Oa nt , who Iv id only two rooms, lets them out Iv a keeper of convicts, and resides himself at Qv...fathom* It was to be observed, that the Ordnance Clerks mew suffered to vote at election', it would,be for the Buena consider upon what grosinsla those persons were the qualified, when persons holding similar situations is da Unisons and Stamps were incapacitated.—(llear, heir, hear!)—There wryer three vessels employed ist the Orsis nansr department at Sheerness. Two fif the hasten were Jurats of Queenburouels :—(a laugh)—there me seldom MOM than one Irian on board of them is tinted peace, as they scarcely ever wade a trip hut in ramie; wood, the property of the public, to places whereit hot no right to lie seat. Beside., there were the enter Magazines, kept up at a considerable expense, and (hies never could be wanting, finless on pressiug nuclei* The powder Lep', un hoard usust be deteriorated. lists as a proof of the sacrifice that was made in that io partment to election purposes, the sixty-six persons"' s:riving wages on hoard that craft were all Freewill gneeishorouali.—(Near, bear !)—lie nitro say that sal a disposition of the loathe m oney was corruptioais Oa broadest seise.—!n the lloc•k-yaids, if a poor Ishoul r -took two laws nails he becam e liable to tremens' tion, but be cowls' prove the fact that Storekeepers MU take them away with • impu nit y it imatesfull.—(lirss. boar!)—At Waltham Abbey t h ere was for the reads' meet 1,113/. for repairs, 7,0011/. although not a thlt sand barrels of gunpowder were mamifactured eds. There was another item of 45,0001. fur gunners -6 f they were -Isacised it was inpossilde to understaitin Waltham Abby there was said to be stati one•l a Tiff_ rant, who kept a grocer's sh o p nine miles 06. !t Woolwich .1,000/. was paid to clerics. a win that resew . • the aitiouut paid to all the individuals emp e , ___ artificers and labourers. In these eithoales sher e _,": Lie items to the easoant of 35,000/. fut tAllit secuw" .. _ of old stores. That money, he wrelersteol, Tolt_ La w pensled amongst persons specially sent from , ni .quarters to the out depots, although each o f *el"! its ... own local establishment which could Iliirbit ` the flow. le What, he wiell" (Mr. Ward) to one observation. corps of artificers' and etigiarers (rum b liseielisnebac.r.edeotnoneccatelld thawithattethitetion : know, prevented the returns of the arteiilnlegryiaialinai;it's t t i l m i e e rile:ltseinseniatsitopfatrlaietelvineegiiiisn't4ltise.itAkenthye " E lN St e il nalailatel : ! ):111" would a ff ord the House great facility tinalietedaeatafiiilst.he Ireleturs:wpowtromoaltijeeiettlittihneit.lOuunvsnu ch rsa;1911"•41:3. referred to the Civil Establishment of tin College Ita Wo d o b lt e tr e i n eh r , e w du h c ic ed h eboystlthliiee peroessiti.intrtym7:4•teS9rtur_• 11•11...1.01 117 1. 6 5t ionia t to uncy l3 y o ivo , uit b ni i i i g t ao he ffi haci es eur s pe n a m ya is t l iik ei o d nu t sn l i s i e tno y g sr bte : " s: 24l :o l 7 o 7;94 l i llllboght it not only expensive, bat batwing s , "14 i C;ll9lstihenlis eiarPTltsrtintioecttlih"taleamrEriseYstotlrvvrauebh:erd;teiornat:knihreeteireriesill"wttistribierit tdoesehrttwacii:haft:Ygrh":l:l6: ezplanation bat three words, via. IterarnsO rl TT l ! it 4;llllllll.l.lllll.l"lllll.lll.lllllllllll.."lllllll.llllC,ltil%tpEalrttutli,oniblineli.nohtftt,virilihe‘ele:etaxismitirnioantnolliriwydiiiiiir.nrsj'atarn.ryg'yferatitin°rtitilsete7oo•,eliyoniabitntwii en the iatt 9riaC:6ooititle.k returned t tietiellmalifitl:t:l sloe aim li ft : is_ : , e w l a l s ot fi k:e .4 , l were note after i: 1 1 r 5 t712 14 '2 1 ,1 1 ' , 0 0 111 4 . 11. ; W a e rn w l i i r n uf g b P t:S' a n er r ' erlo n :• r e 7 - 1, - t r lsa i t .A. th s e ai this hg P le .t it Th e et s: l4l : l4 : : ul lilt-Mall Dopartmeas was min t, ere , * ras in the year 1796. There was a ca s p,' .. gratuities fur length of services, a ; m it p d s ad i 3 r l it i d ,:l i f i l e w lo : :::. ; g e rs li i rceo rr ti g irb e ea t tl: 2 f t t ir e 4i;si t ffi ‘ e b t e . e: ta.. y T hw i t o n ias w i s i h i e l ui r . n i ow il an a a a k d h loikrit 4: 5 of 73,000/. a year--(ifear, hi•oe, h en) ._ le c se h r a io rg e t s 'd att lu el b sli e o r n t o l f se tlt i k i t eaj l i lo o n f se 6 . '4III A m e i* lit e ; ! r il l o i r t fi l s r i s: . a i ls l g i : i a ,) n n t s e . d expressly u e under a t ta t t i e l e d t 1 s t v o i i s o l u s h e s e eti o t a i n: ; l :lo y al i ris oi l : = :: :: :::: ar i ... I t t i Ca lis o tr n an ace : from the year 1796 till 1812, when it mei& oix / me . litin.la:e i s f et,ta l ti s ti e hmateiro n tilt e ni3 e :rigl t essiolLoool v an t i k r a tte.e r d.,a i t t o,2l bs taini. r itil e iNt a stme s .il n lniie n spo,pa, _ k proviaione! In the year 1796 the Private e t .' of the Master of the Ordnance, who peera ni , 4 . , ices fur the public, and was merely engiow i k ....s affairs of the Master-general, received a se amit. a year. The salary of this Pile's/BSe- had been increased to 2,690/. a year, a id t h e intilittee of that Idolise made a great merit of re- it from 2,0001. to 1,5001. a year. '1 he salaw of die Secretary of the Master-general of the 00. sail been increased fonr-fohl. The office of L Secretary having been declared useless, be, ttee of that House bad been abolished, but did use suppose that the salary of 34101. a vest l i r re saved to the ronntry ? Not there f tviitie t vo t•lerks in the Office awl 3%1. a year was IC- li sided between them.--:( 1 leer, bear, and laughter' • one profuse and profligate expentlitnre took plies 'y other branch of this department. The Soo- ' at Dover had received a salary of Wk., sag hail ,;.rest upon a pension of 3391. a year. The Wu. mean opposite (Mr. Ward) bad not desist mount of the salary, but he, (Mr. Hume) sorry to hear him contradict the statemeet le • Storekeeper having retired, because le have known that a person Pained Lamp F r eeman of Queenburough, was appoiatedta %thins. The Fakery of the Storekeeper at Dotes, k year 179ki, when 1w hal much more dutyte rut than at the present time, was only UCLA been progressively increased till it was sow • a year. The lion. Measlier went on to shew the amount of expenditure had increased is awe proportion iu the Colonial lhparlawsk, comparison of items in the year 17%, aad at t reseot time, at Maka, Gihraltar, Itarhathe, the Cape of flood Hope. There was a charge • )00/. a year for awe establishment fur the aIC -tare of gunpuweea at Feverrhatu, where there not a single barrel of gunpowder. In point M the milk at Feveraliam bad been let. la 1106. l i t e period when there was much b oast of enema!, slier those mills wese let, a new clerk of the use 'Kenzie was oppointel—(liear.)--Illore than plain Hely was appointed an inspector of . Icr, althostels there wee no gunpowder to insert mg's). If the establishment at Faversham sit it lil of, the country would n ot onl y save MK a i , but it could dispose of the houses—fur there, • as at Sheerness, the various clerk; have 'moven* they reside there, but they rent Thesis out to OW, ieularly at Sheerness, the clerks themselves mar neenborongh.—(Hear!)—Freks et Sheerness% as le nt, who hid only two roours, lets theta out to a ier of couvicts, and resides himself at ge...eksboreeo• as to be observed, that the Ordnance Clerks tow red to vote at elections, it would,be for the Hemet. ider upon what groutele those persons were the died, when persons holding similar situations is Or toms soul Stamps were incapacitated.--(lleac, hest. •-, • !)--There wryer three vessels employed Ist the Orli. • re department at Sheerness'. Two of the hasten e Jurats of Queenhurouels :—(a lattglr)--titere so T. oat mote than one man on board of them is Mod i pe, as they scarcely ever wade a tri p hut in ramie; I ,d, the property of the public, to places whereit MI • right to Ike seat. Beside., there were the Asks/ , tailors, kept tip at a considerable expense, and tesirb ! . er could be wanting, unless on pressiug eastern!. is powder Lep'. un board usust be deteriorated. lots a proof of the sacrifice that was made in that 6 intent to election purposes, the sixty-six persons"' ring wages on hoard that craft were all Freerroad resslvorou;4ls.—(Near, bear !)—lie ',lust ispositioa of the ptatlO: money was eorruptioa is its ,ariest smese.—ln the Ifork- voids, if a poor Isle". k two brass nails he became liable to tramline Min I o, but be could prove the fact that Storekeepers e them away with, - impunity it i m ate-titli.—(Hr ss r kr !)—At Waltham Abbey there was for the ret abide ‘ i ty that resin nt 1,113/. for repairs, 7,009/. although not a dloe i id barrels of gunpowder were mamtfactorrd Or- ' , iere was another item of 45,0991. fur gunners —bee tali it 1 . i SIP i i'iyouatesrneA-'bbis;Tysetdheirtewwaiissisiortsoillil,re tkastautkinleone,rs. a .._ int, who kept a grocer's shop nine miles off e .: out wich.1.990/. was paid to clerks, a stun that ex I s ihe kt e m rs om a n n t j pa La i b kl oi t i o re a rs l . l t i l n ie th i ea nt e liv es it a s te e s in t h e e le f i red ..dawa m_. " e items me the toesoont of 35,0(10/. for tekint see' • tieht old stores. That money , he wrelerstret. toiled amongst persons specially sent from soars to the out depots, although each of theeellor own local establishment which could c dnlv• lie breosed to call the attention el , onottrable Member connected with the he %oil" . dr. Ward) to one observation. Alla, _, ak low, prevented the returns of the artillery ans.:: : e rp i s lo o ttse f ar i t a it p t: r a a i t u e l rectgigiiiiiitri.:tr: foromthebe,iallawasiallonosar; se regiments of the line is the Army Esti e s: ulnite:' se details. the . House ite,,a gitorea‘to,fiteccitliiitn) i ,• tol unl such t a soffl. a il i Ts satead of the retorts mow made in the lump. N il : , f o e , r )t reei lvie e l a , the wh I cChi vciolstEtsitiaelicloisnhontireynt7,o7ftesFlo.erleveleeira.r::* 1 ad been reduced by the present Ohs . . 4 , • re eta Weir 59 to 130, but he considered they " 4. . 4 serous. With a helfpay amounting to 500,•' • -. hu u m itg a i n it y i y t ou no n t g oonffileyeresxia,:snosiiriveu: btoutbitea7l...6l;l_isir. swig men themselves, to keep that eetablt non' — i i i o g n h s , inpatrhtiecilealarrlytowbber;eratnhteeriel. wec i e n t do he t c li ha rt i Y r:. op ,I he heads of 46 Extraordinaries" there ea _ 0412 , 1 ixplanatiees Mt three words, via. Itepalres eurfelt k i • ------e•ooewsmsmMIMIIIIIIPGIIAII • T 7v