The National Register. — London, England, 1819-02-07 00:00:00

.. 4 1. ~,,,, ,N„,, IM PER IA I. PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. MONDAY, rim I. CESSION OF BANCA. The Karrpsialli NItDOWN ruse to inner forte Address to I}he lirgrot, praywg that hr would eons. , to he laiti before the House ropi4 of 'be itiNtructions to titr r. RoOlom, late Lieut. Giorgi sot lt Ja;a, respecting the Cevaiou of Basica to the Nethet Wools ; and for ropier of all coraspondenee with the I.)4ltCh ColllllljAsi 111 l ers, 0c... He would not now call in ques tion the propriety o: c. ding the colonies takeu from the Ditch, during the last war, to them again ; fur whatever policy thetatud these cessions of colonies, becoming daily more awl Mute Villollll4le and important to ns, It ninst now be coiwidered as ha%iug received the sanction of Parliament. lint the papers he was about to :Twee fur were necessary for viittlicatrun of the rt ional character for bononr and iu- 'cony in the maintenance of onr Treaties. It would be reeollee led that an exp. tidier' 11113 stted out by Lord Minto, Governor-General of India, to subjugate Java, which sue. ceedeti. With ntut h difficulty a ''..lovoritinent was established c , pable of drawing forth the %%bole of the resources of that colony. This Wall done with much labnor, and answered all the dews of that great and enlightened Statesman. ditch a mode of Government was ealrulated to call forth all the ad- vantages of that colony, and of making it eminently nsefnl to the. country. However sanguine the hopes that were enter tained of producing these great effect'', every one who was ac. /planned with the affairs of Java knew well that they were snore theta fulfilled; and in seven years the island was brough, into a state of ntosperity which it had never experienced be fore. To the wisdom, energy, and exertions of Sir T. RafliPx. did the Goverdor-General ascribe this sudden and wouderful improvemeitt. As soot' as our method of govermaent was established, it was found that the population of the island ismounted to five millions of persons, ender Princes mostly native, legitimate, and tudependent, which the Dutch had before court -tied. With those native Princes our Govern. Thent entered into Treaties, but no securities were given for the fulfilment of them. 'l•bis was particularly the ease with the Wend of Banca, which, from its situation, and harbours might have become a valuable depot for merchandise in those seas. The Government of Java did not take forcible possession of Banca, but it was obtained time the Sultan of• Palembang, who possessed the sovereignty ut it; and in re_ turn we guaranteed his territories to him in the unhand ofJava. At the peeve it was de•ermined to restore to the Dutch all their colonies, but Banco had never been in the hands of the ; yet was a separate Treaty made by us to give to *Holland BAIICA for Cochin, without extemiliirg any protective, which we were bound to Jo, to the Salting of Palembang. Sir T. Rallies, feeling intercested as as iudividual who bad teamed the treaty melt the Stine's, and ter his country's honour. protested against the cessiaa ; Lot the Dutch Author cities tanned round upon hies, asked if lie bad auy authority to make that pretest, a question he could net a n swer. The batch then, acting on the strict letter of this unguarded Trea ty, proceeded to violate the neutrality ut the Suntan of Palem• bang. This became the subject of a secoud unavailing pre test on the pars of Sir 'l'. Raffles. It was for &cantons to throw light ore these traesactious that be untended to save. He reprobated is strong terms the Mc:unities violation of sacred Treaties. especially with persons whom we could urn) govern by /hewing them that the Biitish tdith was the best security they could receive in Me world. He then moved an Address to the Prince fregerit for a copy of the Treaty of the CASSiAII of Basra to HOdAhld, and of the protest of Sir T. Raffles on the subject. Earl BATHURST had no objeetieu to some of these papers, but must trines the currespoodtlice between the Lieutcunm Giva•uor of Java and tile hutch Commissioners, because they relate to twitters in sonic 'aspects not yet settled. Java and Bellied %Vele give up on au understanding that the Dutch slioiiiii not violate any Treaties which we had entered loto with Ina native Posen ; but, if they did violate them, we had uo tight to intertsPie unless by ;monstrance. 0111 Government uad never a uttioi izeit the making of Ally Treaties 'with the native Pr triers, securing to Mena, end guerauteeiug to them, the possession of the terr.turte•s if we should deliver sip Java and Ranee to the Dutch. The Noble Lord was mistaken when lie said the Dutch had no previous possession of Banca; they had there a saleable establishment, and it was taken possession of by a regular expedition sent by Sir T. Reifies. Thus it arose that we gave back Banca 1,, the Dutch ; but we did not bind ourselves to protect the Sultan of Palembang, sew should we leave him eutirekv witiiont support ; that was a matter in agitation between the two. rummies. Sir T. Hanes on charges preferred against him, was most honouraoly acquitted, sail sent oat as :Resident at Beticoalen. He kepi esented that, having here once a Lieutenant Governor iu that part of the world, i 1 he went Lace as a three Resident, it wound be thought that he had been degraded. He had, therefore, the title of Limit. •sovernee conterred on him; but was at the same thee told. that he must consider lienself solely as a commercial, and not at all as a political agent. Fur these reasons he could' not agree to giant all the papers on this subject. Lord HOLLAND said, the object of his Noble Friend was, to discover whether the Treaty was such as °tinged us to abandon the native Princes or not. Thus was necessary, to *hew whether we, who went about teaciiiiig the world moral lessons, had adhered to good faith ourselves. If we had agreed to support the SlOlllll of Palembang, told had afterwards deserted him, it nag a most foul taansaction indeed; and he hoped his Noble Friend would move fur the Treaty between the Lieutenant Governer of Jara and the Sultan of Palembang. Though the Dutch had a settlement in Bailee, vet the street eignty was in the Sultan ut Patent bang. He thought this trausietiun was sticis as required the Briush Parliament to inquire strictly into it. It' the Noble Earl retased the docunituis on this subject, he would load hits GOvressineut wide shame. tie had sa►d, some at range:omits wore going VII respecting this matter; but it should never Le said that we could ruler into atuicable adjustment with tue Dutch Gev ernment eu a breaets of 'Jul' haul. The Marquis or LAMOOWNE'II 'notion was altered to a Treaty concluded between the Sultan of Palembang and Sic T. Rutile , . fur thu cession et Bianca. . •Tire motion was then agreed to, sad the !louse then adjourned. TUESDAY. The Earl of LivaaPout. war to move fur a Committee to enliutie into tier , tale el s the Beata of England, with rc.pect i to cnr.u,l:i) et rtiNminung cdsu-pg)menti. He eats frer to noo f e .s th.at tiv 114 , 1 alv.isys witlicia to hive reverted to 011 l anc i e nt policy et:haul the ticebet,y alit:boning to an enquiry into the whirl watt harm been predictive or THE NATIONAL REGISTER lunch inconvenience. Bat as that conblatot be close, he, and those with whom he had to art, were determined to propose a Committee to enquire, n d iu a narrow and contracted view, but the most I stensii and enlarged enquiry possible to be entered into. It would lie desirable, that those appointed of this Committee should enter into it %/idiom' iodithzing former opinions er prejudices on the siihject ; bat let them go to it MI a determination to sift the matter thoroughly to the bet. tom, and to propose what may be best for the advantage of the county. He should therefore abstain from any farther observrtiens on ibis important subject, and move for asecret committee, to emptier into the state of the Bank, connected with the expediency of resuming cash-payments, and all mat. lets connected therms , ith ; and to report their observations to the House. The Marquis of LANvOOWN wished to know, whether the committee was to he chosen by ballot or otherwise. The Earl of LtvLitrooL said, he would propose that the committee shoold he secret, and chosen by ballot. The motion was agreed to ; a , was another, made by the Earl of Liverpool, that the halloting should take place on Thursday. The Earl of Snsieres.DUEN had to present a petition from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Connell of the City of London, praying for a 'ere& or the Insolvent Act. The Noble Earl said, he presented this petition Stith the greatest satisfartioo, as the sentiments contained its it were completely in nnisun a itb lu. own. Tile LORD CIIANCFLLOR said, it was impossible for any subject to be more important than that embraced by the pre sent petition.—Adjourned. WEDNESDAY. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition from the Guild of Merchants in Dublin. pia Mg, that the Pro:es:ant Religion may he pi esrrved entire, both in Church and State. — Laid on the table. Lord SIDNIOLTH presented a petition, by command of the Prince Regent, from Thomas Earl of Mount-oorris and Vis count Valentin, claiming to be Earl of Angletea ; which Pe. titian Lord S. moved be rel.Tred to • committee of Privi leges.—Order ed. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY moved that no petition fur a private Bill should be received after the fourth 01March ; nor any Report received from the Judges on a private Bill after the dth of April.—Ordered.—Adjourned. THURSDAY. The Earl of LIVERPOOL brought down a Message from the Prince Regent, which the Lurd Chancellor read.—[See the same Message in the House of Communsj—Ordered to be taken into consideration to.morrow. The Earl of ErvERPOOL rowed the Order of the Day foa the appointment of a Committee by ballot, to-inquire htto the affairs of the Bank.—Tae ballot having taken place, the foi -1 lowing were declared elected : Earl of Harrowby, Duke of Wellington, Marquis of Lans , lown, Eill Graham (Duke of Mootrose)Earl Il I t _llllrA, t Earl of Liverpool, Earl of St. Ger. I main's, VibCalllit Gurdoi: (Earl of Aberdeen) Viscount Glen ville, Lord King, Lord Glenville, Lord Lauderdale, Lord Reties/tale. Tire Westminster 11Jatings Bill was brought ep from the Cumulous. FRIDAY , THE neccsrs MESSAGE. The Earl of Livt aPnot. moved the order of the day, for taking into consideration the message he brought down on Thursday frets his Royal Highness Cie Prince Regent. 'Pile order of the day and the message having been read by the Clerk, the Noble Earl said, he rose to move an Address to the Prince Regent, in answer to his most gracious Illebi:Vd ; but before doir.g se i:e would just shortly state the nature and character of the fund which, by tie demise of her late Majesty, had been placed under the disposal of Parliament, and waat was intended to be done with it.—The sum haelf amounted to SS,OOOi. which had been granted out of the Civil Law to her lase Majesty, for her seperate use ; it therefore would have fallen to the Civil List again, and not to the public; and the Prin.e Regent had it in his cower to have placedlt in aid of the Lord Chamberlain's, the Lord Steward's, or the Mast-r of the Hors a departments. The only purpose to which Royal Ilighneis could not of his own power aptly it, was to the reintineratien of any of the servants of her late Majesty, because the Pension List was already limited. If it had not beets for that, his Royal Highness would have pensioned the servants of Ids Royal Mother, in the same way as was done by Geo. il. on the demise of his Consort. But his Royal Highness had been advised to that which was most congenial to his own feelings. namely, to place the whole stun at the disposal of Parliament. He concluded by moving an Address, which was, as usual, an echo of the message. The Marquis of LANSDOW X did not rise to offer any objection to the Address, the propriety of which, and the object of the message, all must agree ; and ,ie trusted that the Noble Earl would not think he was quibbling when he objected to one part of the argument of the Noble Lord. The Prince Regent had said lie placed this sum at the disposal of Parliament, to the amount of 58.0001. As to the practical use to be made of it, lie had no objection ; but he must contend, that the Crown or its Ministers had no right over this money, by the words of the Act of Parliament, or, at least, by its spirit. It the doctrine laid down by the Noble Earl were admitted, it would go to a great extent ; for, if all the Royal Family were to die it would be monstrous to say, that the whole of the Civil List should fall into the hands of Ministers. The Address was then agreed to, nom. diva. and was ordered to he presented to the Regent, by the Lords with white staves.—Adjourned till Monday. HOU p SE OF COMMONS. MONDAY,. Fee. 1. Mr.Warruman presented a Petition from Bishop Burnett, of the Coal meter', Offlee in the Borough, pre% Mg that the House wonid take seine steps to prevent the frauds which at present were frequent in the admeasureineut of coals. The Petition was referred to a Committee. The Sheriffs of London appeared at the Bar, and presented a Petition, prit)ilig an alieratimi mid amendment in the law, relative to the recover, of swell debts. On the motion of Mr. Alderman WAITIMAII, the Petition was read mid referred to a Committee. The Sheriffs again appeared at the Bar, and presented another Petition, praying to be alloncd to appropriate the Unclaimed Dividends of the Olphen's Fund, in aid of build_ log the new prison. Mr. Md. moved, that this Petition should be referred to a Coinioit tee. . . . Mr. H. Si;,to on thought, before tbe ety of London appled for lease to appropriate funds which did not belong to them they shenld prove their own funds to be inautliisievt. Lsst yeal, the City obtained leave to bring iu a Bill rut the seine p.trpuse As that now applied for. tle,(Mr. S.) than opposed that Bill, Ageless the City would produce their ai•Loonts.— Dios they 'had retitled to slo; a n d had its prefeienee, We diiiwn their Bill. Me should take this opportunity of giving notice, that lie would oppose *ay future Bill which sight be brought in ou this sultject, unless these accouuts.were froduced, 1:1•13. 7 - - Mr. Ald matt 1 1 .'rr7771llAN WWI not a Member of tilt , 114.1 t Parliitotettt, awl therefore could take no part in the threw- Mons allotted to by the Hon. Member ; but he war certain of this, that the City of London would not object to the pristine. tint' of all such at:vomits', as could in fairness be required of them. The Hon. Gentlenam, talked of the City asking to nppropriate hinds which did not belong to them: bat did the Hon. Gentleman recollect. tbot the City not only supported its own prisntiern, but also the prisoners belonging to tl.e County of Nliddir-ex, which exceeded their own in the pro portion ot five to one Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW declared, Le shonld also oppose the Bill, if tiny were brought in on this Petition, unless tl.a City coopeatcd to poodsier their accounts. The Petition was ernes col to lie on the table. The rilierifir then appeared at the liar, and presented a Petition from the Covet of Cosmos Connell against Mock Auctions. Mr. Alderman WAITIIMAW mailed, that this Petition shiedg be read; and in.doina an, commented in strong terms, on the injury which was done to the fair trailer, by this sort of i•e poeition on the Public ; the subject bad already been berme Committee of 0)&14'4 Parliament. He (rioted, as the present Parliament svolubl adopt same step on the IStIlkil•Cl. The I'etitisu Nus read, and ordered to be referred to a Committee. 'f hc Shelia's ac-ila appeared at the Rim, and presented a Petition iron) the lettil Mayor nod Co nrosan Connell as sembled, against a renewal of the present insolvcat Debt ors Act. The Petition having been read by the Clerk, Mr. Aid. WAITIIM AN observed, he rmtki not bet consider this Petition as important as any which bad been presented during the present Session, not eareptlng even that on the subject of the Criminal Code. The eitisens of London, he would affirm, were as open to the feelings of humanity as any set of men eakting The Insolvent Act would be as readily adopted by them as by any class of persons, if it was really an set of hunt unity ; but this was an Act affording the most ready read to the invasion of private property, and, he he would further say, to the destruction of public morals. It also operated as an invasion of tlic Constitution, Mace it puperseded the hest of our Institut:mi., the trial by Jury, and gave to one individual Judge of the Insolvent Court the power of deciding aim the hulk of propel ty, greater in amount than came under the controul of the bird Chaseeller, and all r/le other Judges. Returns had at different times been made to the House on the subject of this Hill and its consequences. On the Ist of Notch 1816, a Return was made to the Home, by which it appeared, that the number of persons who had at that time been discharged amounted to 0040, and the aoionat of their debts 6.000,0011. The Holum then proceeded to haglike what dividend they had made on these debts. and found the avorage one quarter of a farthing in the pound. 'Die Act then underwent improvernent ; and mid on the Ist of Morels, 1817, another return was made. The persons discharged were in number 5000, their debts 9,010,0J01. and the dividend half a farthing. 'l b ws, this iin proveinent had had the etf'et oh raising the dividend from a quarter of a farthine to half a Nettling in the pound ; and, guiag on in this progressive state, by the time the Act ex pired, abont 14,000 persons would lie discharged, at an ex pence of above 13,000,0001. taken rum the pockets of tee most honest, most industrious, sad he would say, tie most virtuous part of the coininum zy—a tax mod onornions su its amount, which, in this five years, would take more out of the packets of the inditstr'ons tradesman, more, much more than the amount of the Property Tan' on this class ut persons. lie Hon Member contended, that no advantage tesaited to tile Debtor himself troll this Act ; on the contrail, it served to encourage fiaod on the part of the Debtors, mho now went on to exhaust the substance of their creditors to t h e last farthing, and then to take themselves to prison, Ti,is• lie could prove from dominate itt his possession, delivered to hint by Sheriff's Officers, by which it appeared the se veral of theie per.mns gene to those officers end delivered themselves up, with writs in their hands. Tile Hon. Alder man concluded by moving, that the Petition should lie on the table. Mr. UIiOUGHANI agreed iu much which bad been said bj the lion. tikattlegnim near him Waithinae). He was ready to acknowiedge that the Insolvent Act ha 4 been abused, but he could net agree to condemn the system alto gether. The gpitern itself was one which had existed long before the prevent Bill was passed, it was a necessary one ; Hs] lie trusted iu the Committee to witirlt this Petaion would aftervvaiil• take place upon it is the House, it would be so far modified that the interest of the honest creditor might he guarded. One of observations if the Hon. Altrcrmati's he must not suffer to pass without notice. The Hoa. Alder. 11141/ hail talked of 15,000,0001. being taker, from the pockets :if th , honed tradesmen ; a sum. as he said, More than eqsat to wbat they would have paid under the Pioperty Tax. But he would ask the lion. Alderman whether, if this Act had not existed at all, he believed the honest tradesman would have recovered this 1.3,000,0031 I On the contrary, he (Air. B.) did not believe they would have recovered the tomtit part of a farthing which the lionouratie Alderman bad Men tioned. The Petition was then ordered to lie on the table. Mr. Ald. Wamttaast then moved for a wort) of the utur tier of persons discharged her the inselveni Act, the ainotint of their Debts, and of the Property delivered up by them for the bereft of their creditors, since the passing the preLat [aslant Act--Oodel ed. CA RE OF THE KING'. PEisSON. Upon the tsiutiun of Mr. VIII\ SEITAKT, the Bill nom the Los ds, for making prevision for the care of the Royal Prr,mi, was read a first time, Min ottlered to be read to sccotal time oe Tbsstsday. COAIMITTEE OF SUPPLY. Upon the motion of Mr. VANSITTART, tLe noose *chi into a Cononittee of Sapply. bir 0. WANKS NOIR, after a few preparatory rem ilk , . 1101VC11 grant ut 20,000 Seamen and 8%00 Wane-. for tilt sere ice it the . ir3r. Mr. Romans - 2 wished to ask, if na steps had been tit , to put a stop to the necessity of tve ireprt astral.' CI Se. wee; as lie thought a time of peace like t:.• present w. • a pr. tar time to put a stop to a practice, that teeo ** d ikes fniti Ike broom of rheir Sir 0. A% •RREINDEII COU:d give uo whilst:wiser at present than that it was the earnest tusk of Gotrn.meut 10 du all in their poaer on that subject. Measure , had h. e.. Wilco • ameliorate, in many tivpr cis. the Cl/11.1:1;ule Id 8 amen, espr ciatly by weans of a system of regal' .C. 06 CO3 wen) then voter: fur Vie wades Ct . the Sitanieu fur Meant:mi., 111 • buo,onei. for victuals 553,001/ fur wear and tears( s i .; and 1,0001. for the Ordnance. NNt , ‘.. \