The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-07-03 00:00:00

Highness; M consider ....... IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF ff, JULY i. ROYAL ASSf:NT. The Assent was given by Commission to the follow ing Bills I—The Siakiag Food Loan Bill, the Roche quer Bills Bill, the !risk Treasury Bills Bill, the Bank of Irelead Bill, the Wool Importatioa Bill, the Irish Stoik Transfir Bill, the Naval Stores Bill, the &lot- DistiHark , * Drawbacks and the Scottish Malt Duties Bill, the Coal Mica Drawbacks 8111, the Wool Itegistery Bill, the Vagrant Laws Amendment Bill, the Cos*, Rates Bill, the Justices of the Pease Bill, the East India Trade Bill, the Far Trade Regulation Hill, the Sainge Acts Amendment Bill, the British White Herring Fishery Bill, the Irish Coal Yards BiH, the Irish Jail Fees Bill, the Thames Lastage and Ballastage Bill, and a large number of Private Bills. Mr. Basootx, Mr. M ASTIR, of Galway, and others, brought up from the Com•ons the Irish Customs Collectort Bill, the Public Works Bill, the Captured Slates Bill, the Acetous Acid Bill, the Irish Silk Bounties Bill, the Muscovado Sugar Importation Bill, anti the Cruelty to Animals Prevention Bill.—Read a first time. Mr. SWINSURNI4 from the Commissioners of West minster Bridge, preseshed the anneal accounts of the fru:Aides of that edifies. Laid on the table. 11•1111111111 0 1 LAWS. Lord DACRB requested leave to withdraw the Bankrupt Laws Amendment Bill, at this advanced Nut. of the Session, as be understood it was the Wen tiun of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack to introduce a measure himself upon the subject at a future opportarrity. The LORD CHANCIILLOR said that be should not Lave eousseoted to the withdrawing of the present Bill, if he bad not been able to state that it was his in tention early neat Session to propose an Act to amend the Bank!npt Laws. Lord KING presented • Petition from the Inha bitants of Reading, in favour of the Bill for prevent ing cruelty to animals. Laid on the table. His Lordship then presented Petitions from the In habitants of Lewes and of Poole, praying for • revi sion of the Criminal Code. Laid on the table. The Sheerness Land• Bill, and the Irish Foundling Hospital Bill, were read a third time, passed, and seat to the Commons. The Consolidated Fund Bill, the Coasting Trade BIM, and the BritiXit Spirits Duties Bill, went respec tively through Committees and were reported. The End of LAUDERDALE was understood to ask what day the Bill for preventing Cruelty to Animals was to be read a second time, and to express an inten tion of moving that their Lordships be summoned on that day. The Earl of SNAFTESBURY replied, Wednesday. PUBLIC EXPENDITURE. The Earl of DARNLEY in rising to make the mo tion of which he had given notice, stated that he la boured under greater disadvantages than usual; at the close of a Session which bad been distinguished by nothing more than an apparent disregard of public business amongst their Lordships, and a disinclina tion on their• part •tom engage in it; whilst the other Horse of Parliament had been occupied day after day and night after night, with topics of public import ance, and particularly connected with that on which he was about to trouble their Lordships. In addi tion to other disadvantages, was the absence of a Noble Friend of his, a Noble Marquess, who alone had endeavoured to call their Lordship's attention to the real interests of the State. He should not have been deprived of the piwetful support of that Noble Marquees, had he tot 'postponed his motion in com pliance with the request of a Noble Earl, high in his Majesty's Councils : yet ohe advantage had resulted from that postponement, and that was, the pledge given by the Vote of the other House, that a more extended system of econoniy than that hitherto pursued should be at last adopted.—(Hear, hear.) — Ile should now endeavour to impress upon their Lordships that notwithstanding the apparent prospe rity in this metropolis, the improved state of a great branch of our domestic industry, the silk manufac turers, and the statements of the Chancellor of the Exchequer that there was no • falling off in the revenue, the factlliat a well regulated machine should continue I in 'motion was no proof that its main spring or primate mobile was not out of - order. •So it was with the main source of our prosperity. - He•should also endea- I sour to persuade their Lordships to carry an ear nest; renronstrativaAddreis to she Throne, entreating hi! Majesty . to interpose ere it was too late in behalf of economy; and- he - should lastly .attempt to prove that reductions could be effected .to a great extent.— The Noble iffirt`then adverted to the distressed state of Agrietaittre, that.main Spring which gave energy to the whole, and read various parts of the Commons' Report on that snirject. Hitherto the rents had been paid oat of the capital or credit of the tenants ; the tales had altar been paid, and there had consequently been no detakation in the revenue. But it was impos sible that mauls should be able for another year to continue to spay their rents outof their capital or credit. —He admitted that the difficulties of the Agriculturists hal net arisen entirely from the amount of taxation ; and contended that the repeal of the Agricultural Horse Tax would not produce relief to the amount of more thah two per cent. on the rents of land through out the 'kingdom. It was not the direct taxes which weighed down farmers, but those which pressed upon them in a. variety of ways, affecting all they had to boy and even•the price of mensal labour. He hoped that no thing would Wile* their Lordships not to keep faith with the public creditor, whatever might have been his pans in consequence of the alteration in the value of money, but if agricqtare should fail-to any great extent, no man could be bold enough to say to what extent it might not be necessary to carry the remedy. lie hoped such a time .would not arrive, and the meet effectual' way of delaying it, would be to reduce the public establishments, and consequent,/ the amount of the taxes. He would not confuse the House and himself by entering minutely into the de tails of the reductions, which, in his opinion, might Le effikted Ia• the different departments, but be hoped he ihoutd-be abbe to state enough to shew that they might econtimieleby Millions. The inttepartmest to which besinkild allude was one to whielt he was less 104* to apply_tbe principle of rAmelon thaw say other, if the eiremmliaancoo if the seautry Would per snit the choke. Even as it was, if he thisoglit.the pre- . . A. - . _ . tm a datil pArer, be wool& boose of the last to propose any reduction of the estimates. He found that the Italy; la Its resent andlitea, staid as high as was reqairod to meet the shames of say possible war, and hen it would be ansaadhil net to give the Ministers credit for the redaction which bad already taken place in that &penmen elan the termiaatioa of hostilities. We bad at title mseamit it for 'series 84 sail of the line, 67 frigates, rl ordered to be balltoted 13 to be repaired. —This was a power exceeding in amount the united force of the Preach and American navies, the French having but 68 sail of the lies, and the Americans 11. He would not deny bet that it might be well to keep up a seperabuadaat force, yet, taking into conildera lion the state of oar haunts, and the difficulty of manning the ships la any emergency. he was of opinion. that without eadangerieg any littered of the State, a material reduction might take place ; be had heard that it was in contemplation to discontinue the navy yard at Deptford, for which no less a sum had been voted by Parliament than 141,3091. The coun try was burthened with an annual charge foi timber and building materials, with 891,6841. Without in the least eidaegeriag her save superiority, half a Willett might be lopped 4 from these items only. Another item referee& to a great satiated work which seder more prosperous circumstances, be would not be disposed to limit, he alluded to the basin and dock.ysrd at Sheerness. The saving which be would propose it the Naval Department siege, amounted to 800,0011. In the army considerable retreachments might still be made. Theßstablishosent of the Horse (lauds cost the nation 316,0001., be would propose that it should be reduced to 80,0001., which might be effected without interfering with the splendour of the Crown.—(Hear.) I. the Cavalry a saving of 140,0001. was practicable, and, upon the whole establishment of the Army, it was not too much to say that two millions sterling might be saved. Even if it was reduced bat one-tenth, the savings to the public would be 400,000!. There was another item, the necessity of which he could not comprehend :1 he saw no reason why they should go on multiplying barracks throughout the kingdom; 260,5004 was to be laid out for this purpose, of this 100,0001. might be saved. The Commissariat might be reduced one fifth, and the Army Extraordinaries one-tenth, which would make a saving of 700,0001. With respect to the Ordnance Department, be doubted whether be could propose any reduction, but he thought, that if Ministers were sincere in their professions of economy, they might, by the sale of certain lands and buildings, now of no use, accomplish a reduction of 100,0001. in the Ordnance Department. The Miscellaneous Ser vices were estimated at two millions and a half; a re- 1 diction of only 10 per cent. would give 250,0001. He next came to the Civil List. It was true that Royalty ought to be surrounded with splendour, when thepros parity of the country permitted. but, in times of diffi leaky and distress, he knew of nothing which could teed more to satisfy the people with their condimioa i thaa to see an example of retrenchment set by the highest peens is the State. Queen Anne had made a sacrifice to the aocessitios of her people, and it might be said of such acts that— " They became Tbrovel Monarch better than his Crown." He did not mean to make any invidious allusion to the approaching ceremony of the Coronation, or to his Illajesty's intention of visiting any part of his domi nions, bat the Civil List he thought might be reduced to 130,000/. The expense of collecting the Revenue might be diminished perhaps half a million, and the whole subject was well dethviog of the most serious consideration of Parliament. The Nuble Lord con cluded, after some general observations, in which be strongly inculcated the necessity of economy, parti cularly at the present moment, by moving the lotion - - log Address : " That an humble Address be presented to his Ma jesty, praying that he will be graciously pleased take into his immediate and most serious consideration the difficulties and distresses of his faithful subjects, and especially of that very important description of them whose wealth and subsistence more immediately depend on agriculture ; and that his Majesty will be gra ciously pleased to give such directions as to h ajesty's wisdom shall seem expedient to diminish the public expenditure in all the great Departments of the State, both civil and military, as the only effectual means of permanently relieving those difficulties and distresses which, if not principally occasioned, are at least ma terially aggravated by the pressure of accumulated taxation." The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, he would not enter into the extensive field of discussion which the Noble Lord bad opened, because many of the subjects which he had brought under their consideration, would indi vidually require a whole night's debate ; besidee, there were, perhaps, circumstances in his mere situation which disqualified him from discharging such • task as he could wish : he lamented as mach as any matt the distress of the country, and particularly of the Agricultural interests. He agreed in opinion with the Committee of the other House, that no legislative mea sure was capable of affording substantial relief. Ile would go farther, and state, that by legislating on such subjects, not only would they do no giod, but probably much harm. The agricultural interests un doubtedly laboured under great ditreulties, but they were not to be laid to the account of taxation, for in the other parts of Europe, and in America, the distress was as great. In Russia, Poland, and those •parts of Germany which were connected with Poland, the agri cultural distress was much greater, and in America it was as great as In this country. Witbont entering into particulars, it mightbe ascribed in general terms to the artificial circumstances, not of this country. but of the world, arising from the late war, which affected property in a more extraordinary degree than any other contest. But it was never to be forgotten, that these evils had a tendency to work their own care, and that the disadvantage of legislating would be to interfere with these causes, and prevent the natural order of things from taking place. He would allow that economy was the only safe remedy as far as it could be safely carried into effect; but the Noble Lord did not do justice to the tiovernment for the reductions they had already effected. As long ago as 1817, a Commission was established to inquire iota the Gaston.% by which a saving of 80,0001. a year was filketvi.sed searing was is progress of 20,008, -year more. Upbn &Dodger sobje4Arhich he was aware' vas a moot important one, be meant the Army ante Nprty, he agreed frith the Noble Earl, that every reduction ought to be made which was consistent with the safety of the State. But then the Noble Earl did mot always take practicability into hie calculation is his plan of economy. He had senimed up, for in stance, our naval force, and stated that 84 sail of the line were sufficient for our nairal establishment, with out incurring further expeese by building others, and wasting money on dock yards, Ise. Now, he (Lord Liverpool) acknowledged that the number of sail of I the line was inefficient, but then be was mot to suppose that force could be always stationary. if be bad referred to accounts which were open to the inspection of every Noble Lord, he would have found that the ship building was necessary to supply the leas by wear and tear, and the decay and ruin which ships were liable to when laid up in dock, as well as when employ ed. Like all earthly things, ships must wear oat; but if the machine never grew old, they could do without ship building ; as, however, this was unfortunately not the case, there must, as long as we bad • navy at all, be an expense incurred by the wasting and wear ing out of ships. As to the principles laid down by the Noble Earl, he perfectly agreed with him that whatever could be done in the way of reduction, swept to be done, both in the Army and Navy; ►lsee to his view of what was practicable, he bad not . _ I,lkken into account the balf-p - ay and allowances arising out of a state of war, and necessarily fixed for a cer tain time on the country. It was evident he did not recollect bow great a part of our expenditure was a dead expenditure, and even to an extent which amounted to more than the whole weight of our peace establish. meat is 1792. Besides, the increase of pay in the Army and Navy accounts for another great portion of our ex penditure ; and however such things might be left out of view in general theories of economy, they could not be dispensed with when we came to the practice. He however repeated, that what could be done ought to be done ; and allowed there were special and peculiar cir cumstances in the state of the country' which ought to induce us to make extraordinary efforts towards reduc tion.—(Hear, bear.)—This he was perfectly ready to allow. An Address had been agreed to in the other House, which was an evidence that government were willing to do all in their power to further the progress of economy ; and he n•as sure it would be a matter of satisfaction to the country at large, that a similar Ad dress should be recorded on the Journals of that House. The Noble Lord concluded by moving, that an humble Address be presented to his Majesty, assuring him lb at ithe House perceived with great satisfaction the general revision which had taken place, in consequence of his Majesty's commands, in the department of the Customs, and the reductions which followed, and that they ac knowledge his Majesty's goodness, and entreated that an inquiry might be instituted into the several depart ments of the Civil Govermnent, with a view of reducing the number of persons employed on account of the in crease of business during the war, as of diminish ing the amount of salaries since 1797 ; and praying that his Majesty ►could direct every possible saving to be made in all the departments of the State. The Earl of tiROSVENOR had no hesitation in giving the preference to the Address proposed by his Noble Friend, as he had found that little dependance could be placed on the promises made by the Noble Earl opposite to enforce economy in the public expen diture. He denied that a saving of 1,500,000/. had b!en effected, if this year were compared with the first and second year of peace. He complained of the continual increase of the unredeemed and un funded debt. We had entered on the seventh year of peace. could we expect to double that number before war sh.ould call upon us for fresh exertions ? And hail we made such use of those years of peace as to enable us to meet war with recruited means ? One source of additional expense was the approaching Coronation. It bad been estimated ■t 100,0001. but it was apparent, and it had indeed since been ad mitted that it would exceed that sum. He consi dered it au unnecessary expense for nothing could es tablish his Majesty more firmly on the throne than what had already taken place ; his having appeared as King before Parliament, his having taken the oaths, and their Lordships having done the same.— lie thought the measure unnecessary and injudicious, and that it ought not to hare been recommended by the advisers of the Crown under present circum stances. For even supposing that the law was clear, and declared in positive terms that the Queen had no right to be crowned, still as • matter of grace, he thought it was injudicious to recommend a Co ronatint► from which she should be excluded. The ground on which her right was contested was the single precesieet of Henry the Seventh having been crowned alonicwhen it was supposed that his mar riage with his Queen had been celebrated. But this ground must fail, for the marriage of that monarch had only taken place after his Coronation, so that titre was at the time no Queen to be crowned. He had heard also that the procession at the approaching Ceremony was to be hemmed in on all sides by soldiers. That would be the greatest insult which could be put both upon the King and people of this country.. It would seem to imply that the peo ple would HI behave to their Monarch if they were not prevented, and that the Monarch could nut trust himself to his subjects. It would make him appear life as Oriental despot moving in the midst of his satraps. He should wish to see the Monarch sac rounded by hosts of hearts and not by hosts of bayonets. He knew it would be said that the pre sence of troops added to the splendour of the page ant, and be had no objection to their being used for that purpose; but let them be so placed as not to convey the idea that the Monarch distrusted his people. As to the money which would be expended upon the ceremony, if it trebled the amount of the sum now estimated, it would not be grudged by the people, if it was not attended by the circumstances which be had mentioned. With regard to the amended Address, it was not such a one as he was disposed to be satisfied with ; yet at the same time he was glad to find that the Noble Earl was so far alive to the distresses of the country, as not to hare thought it necessary to move the previous wt. tion upon the Motion of his Noble Friend. Lord MELVILLE catered into a short statement to sbew, that in the naval department the Scale of ex pense was . so higher than an eiheient naval farce • , aade necessary. He stated, that of the 84 ships of he line, only 40 .could be reckoned on as durable • • I ,! J •1 Alpe. Re added, that this year great redactioes had roes made, sad greater were contemplated, aad that the weeks at Sheerness were reduced to one-half t►e previous expeace, bet the greater part of w►at bad fallen from t►e last Noble Rani was quite Inn. levant. The Ravi of CARNARVON lOW fi fulmar of t►e original Address, as being the more plata, distiack, and siady of the two, aid eemeeeded; that t►e chase is t►e value of t►e carrettobad produced the greater part of the embarrassments of .t►e country, sad its evil consequences could sot be obviated with oat a vast diminution of the tamale*. Lord CALTHORPB supported the Asin•dment. Tie Earl of DARNLEY replied, sad the Amend. ■eat was agreed to without a division. Lord SIDMOLITH moved that the Irish Chancery Courts Regulation Bill ►e committed that day three months, which after a few words from the Lord Chan. cellor and the Marquess of Downshirs, was agreed to.—Adjourned. —..... HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Mossay, JULY It. The House was summoned to the Haase of Lords to hear the Royal Assent given by Commissios to several public sad private Bills (for which see the prompedisgs in the Lords.) Mr. HARBORD presented a Petition from several Parishes in Semenetabire,prayieg for a re►isioa of the Criminal Catie.—Ordered to he printed. The Bankruptcy Courts Bill went through a Com mittee; the Report was received, and ordered to be taken into cousideratioa to-morrow (this day.) Mr. ARBUTHNOT presented a variety of papers relating to the increase of the Salaries is Public Offices.—Ordered to be priated. Mr. ORATPAN presented a Petition from am 'ladle'. dual, praying the House to inquire into the ciream stance•s respecting a refusal to renew the Patent for the Crow-street Theatre in Dnblin.—Ordsred to be printed. The Captured Slaves Bill was read a third time and passed. Mr. CLIVE moved an Address to his Majesty, praying for a Copy of the Ninth Report of the Com missioners appointed to enquire illtAittattlestch Courts of Justice.—Ordered. *Oast the reproaches c the arrears grant of COI had shown t 1 'tame. rece already eel bnAltere. Mr. Sew 1818 voted Mr. 110 do ..y ..t or hi je - headed t. 1.. 'ls Lard A. I read a third he emend i without • that they 1 Mr. 111 Mess ea Sat szphratier w plant is 11.111 ?be Neils 1111 tem moth their *we till Jr .1. To oho week) he SW t►. Hesse le put ►y ►is HI Moan) wbiti Itzebsipwr: 1 which foitew stow Ronal titer for ber a was deer the flnky. all hl teed the are "len alas sei cf the Crows the Ceramist( the grade as that time pro Marquises. I added be bad sissatioa.--(1 derry.}—He 1 ad against tl ids slime oil assent. Ths wen sot peel Corsoations I was what had sot the ditty her claim I. to wait bar hi sposaitils air Beside% u I prowl's( fl proper to we its asteslly t lag the germ sad inserted vial claiming settled at his afterwards, saes he was himself for s (as It bad) b of his Hee. The holidar mum was el the purpose the subject. milted that ties from sm um oases hi do him so g 23d of Jug the 21st of the Artemis The Memel answer bad liftmen da: there was • yet keep • instance on days notice an alginate only two di the House iratioae, as been any is Majesty's a The Mar intended ea in their pro trusted the answer. wit maid; a Is that be Intl was bound, or withhok that the Q 1 I 1 st of Mal the Hon. at 'ion on wl had bee. is and the 21i the prineir be inforete reseeetere ee the app returned. 1 - - . give or Ist lion. and t any order 1 watts. T declaring site were al or; rtg e for lei forgoer ant prohlhitiot clearly sin course int returning owls , *bon hei(Mr. guess's) a arts, bail been cousataace veransost when it w rowel. link - - ...."......ms• • . i . •i / i 1 . • - a mom , . .... . . ... . . .... . . . . ..... - . . illagill , 1 IMPERIAL PARLIAMEN7'. !est wrailitillatle uestotut, II sr ea ' ritp ' Neey, 'be agreed with the Noble Earl, that every ships. He added, that this year great redactitios had against the w' --..m...- tie a tiatil sorer, he woad Woolworths lest to propose reduction ought to be made which was consistent with been made, asd greater were contemplated, and that reproaches of MUSE OF LARDS.--Mexeav, Jinx t. any reduction of the estimates. He found that the the safety of the State. Bet then the Noble Earl did the weeks at Sheerness were reduced to one-half the the arrears, ly; la Its proms etsoffidess, stood as high as was not always tape practicability into hie calesiatios is privies* exposes , bet the greater part of what ROTAI7ASSENT. sa milked to meet the shames of say possible war, and his plan of economy. He had summed up, for le- bad fallen from the last Noble Earl was quite lyre. bad shows Litwin was given by Commission to the follow- here it would be u near th net to give the Ministers stance, our naval force , and stated that 84 sail of the levant. I—The Sinking Vaud Lean Bill, the Beebe-- - sauce weir Is Bill, the mai Treasury Bills Bill, the Bank credit for the redaction which bad already taken place line were sufficient for our steal establishment, with- The Earl of CARNARVON ipoki 6 favour -of already rimier in that depeetmest Also the eerrsisatioa of hosti li ties. out incurring further expense by building others, and the original Address, as being the more plain, distil**. id Bill, the Wool Importation Bill, the Irish We had at dilemma lit ferneries 84 sail of the line, wasting money on dock yards, i.e. Now, he (Lord sad ashitly of the two, and - eestesded; that tba - . brother. ransfir Bill, the Naval Stores B il l, the Boo t- Mr. Snow 67 frigates, t'l ordered to behulitosod 13 to be repaired. Liverpool) acknowledged that the number of sail o f *lmage in the Tattoo( the curreidthad produced the tillerits Drawbacks and the Scottish Malt —This was a power exceeding in amount the united the line was sellielent, but then be was sot to suppose greater part of the embarrasemests et die country. . 1818 "wed a fill, the Coal Mien Drawbacks Bill, the Wool Highness; his fere' of the French and American navies, the French that force could be always stationary. if be bad and its evil consequences could sot be obviated with- y Bill, the Vagrant Laws Amendment Bill, be cossidered having but 58 sail of the Use, and the Americans 11. referred to accounts which were open to the Inspection oat a vast diminution of the tamale*. sty Rates Bill, the Justices of the Pease Bill, Mr. HONG He wou ld not deny bat that it might be well to keep of every Noble Lord, he would have found that the Lord CALTHORPE supported the Atimodasent. i s ' 4 India Trade Bill, the Fur Trade Regulationl do any act nab up a superabundant force, yet, taking into conSidera- ship building was necessary to supply the lees by The Earl of DARNLEY replied, and the Ames& ' • or i n j ust i ce . Salvage Acts Amendment Bill, the British 1 tion the state of oar finances, and the di ffi culty of weer and tear, and the decay and ruin which ships were meat was agreed to without a division. erring Fishery Bill, the Irish Coal Yards fonaded la si manning the ships la any ensergeacy. he was of liable to when laid up in dock, as well as when employ- Lord SIDMOLITH moved that the Irish Chancery Irish Jail Fees Bill, the Thames Lastage and tete. opinion, that without en d anger in g any interest of the ed. Like all earthly things, ships must wear out; but if Courts Regulation Bill be committed that day three ? p Bill, and a large number of Private Bills. A. 1114 State ' a ma t e ri a l reduction might take place ; be had the machine newer grew old, they could do without months, which after a few words from the Lord Chan- issootx, Mr. MARTIN, of Galway, and others, read a third tl heard that it was in cealemplatios to discontinue the ship building ; as, however, this was unfortunately tenor and the Marquess of Downshirs, was agreed up from the Commons the Irish Customs be owned Om navy yard at Deptford, for which so lees a sum had not the case, there must , as long as we bad a nary at to.—Adjourned. re Bill, the Public Works Bill, the Captured eireemseances been voted by Parliament than 141,3091. The eosin- all, be an expense incurred by the wasting and wear- —um— ill, the Acetate Acid Bill, the Irish Silk without a Mei try was burthened with an annual charge for timber ing out of ships. As to the principles laid down by HOUSE OF COMMONS . —M o nd ay, JULY It. Bill, the Muscovado Sugar Importation Bill, that they mhos and building materials, with 891.5841. Without in the Noble Earl, he perfectly agreed with him that The House was su m mone d — to the H ouse if Lords to Cruelty to Animals Prevention Bill.—Reed Au. Loam IhlllAnuarisir Lar naval suerioritr. half a whatever could be done in the way of reduction. .Mr. OEM ill.asma ail Milt •w►YR TR* DR. Sir J. MACKINTOSH begged to call the attention of the House to an observation made by the Noble Marquess o■ a former occasion respecting the 'boil tine of the Slays Trade by the Government of France. The Noble Marquess had stated, that be refrained from pressing the subject, as be feared there was an indisposition on the part of the Chew ber of Deputies to entertain it. It had since turned oat that on a discussion of the subject I■ that Chamber, the Minister of Marine bad been blamed for not bringing forward the project of a law for the abolition. Under these circemetamees. be (Sir James) wished to know, whether the Noble Mar quess had any objection to lay before the Homo the commusication which had taken place es this sub ject between himself and the Authorities of Prance. The Marquees of LONDONDERRY said, It was certainly true that a Colonial spirit bad disclosed itself among die Members of the Chambers of France, unfavourable to the abolition of the traffic. He was at present, not prepared to say, whether there would be any objection to produce the correspondence, but be submitted to the Honourable and Learned Member, whether it would be useful or wise, to press a discussion of the subject under present cir cumstances. Sir JAMES MACKINTOSH observed that from the present state of the Press in France, the reports of the proceedings is the two Chambers were mere than ordinary authentic. It was certain that the Minister of Marine had been blamed, as he (Sir J.) bad mentioned; &circumstance somewhat at variance with the information received by the Noble Mar quess. He (Sir James) was not inclined to press the subject, after the suggestion of the Noble Marquess; but he thought measures ought to be takes to ascertain whether the Preach Government ob served good faith on this important qaesiioe. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY and Sir JANSS MACKINTOSH mutually explained, and the conversa tion then dropped. _ _ Dr. PHILIXAIORE adverting to the debate of Thursday night, in which mention had been made of the state of Westminster Abbey, and tbo neglect of public Monuments in that Cathedral, said he was requested by the Dean of Westminster to oerrect a misconception which had gone abroad on the sub ject. With respect to the profits expected to be made on the approaching Coronation, he was in structed to say, that they would not exceed 3,000/- and that they, were not entirely applicable to the purposes of improvement Ipng established usage having directed their appropriation 'in various other ways. Referring to the other observations respect ing the repairs, he was requested to say, that that part of the Abbey requiring repairs, had, until lotely, been for some time inaccessible. Sir C. LONU presumed the explanation was di rected principally to some observations made by him. He had merely thought that as the Abbey. was the ancient burial place of the Kings of Ragland, it should be repaired at the public expense. Ile cer tainly thought it was a subject of mortification to observe the little care that was taken of.tbe public monuments. Of the Dean of Westminster, person ally, be was clad to bear testimony to Ids lies and exemplary character. DYKE 0. CI IA Trott or TSB WIEN. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY moved the Order of the Day for the third raading of the Bill, enabling his Majesty to make a Provision•for hie Reyal Highness the Duke of Clarence. Mr. BERNAL said, that as this subject had been fally discussed already, he should not eater into it again. He bad, however, beaid no argument to justify the vote for the arrears; and be therefore should move an alteration of the date to raided* the 1 arrears. Mr. CREBVEY said, he should oppose the third reading of the Bill. The Hon. Member made some oheervations on the state of the. House and the lateness of the Session, and concluded by repeating Meanest from the Bill. Mr. BBCHEI 'boomed that the eta of the-Meese might to hare set a oars easessoniose reespiss than was *hewn to the fernier Pike The Imes, Bill was