The Statesman. — London, England, 1820-11-03 00:00:00

/ .e f ' 1111011 1311 7 1---- o w es' yesterday won be read with concern, but t oot surprise. •The Lotto CIIANCELLOR, sse find, 44 to es, and called his Gov to witness the pain be Otis sliseharging what he termed his duty, that is, oti ossuing to justify the measure which he had ,s l y sa nctioned. lion is said to be o p res e n t of trouble; and it is remarkable that we , o r hear the Learned Lord call upon his name, „ re pt when bis Lordship seems in trouble, front 1 , 0 4 s cause that appears unpopular, or pro : spoof se opinion not readily received. THE QUEEN. HOUSE OF LORDS.—Tnts Monvims. Iv n ow aset at 10 o'clock, pursuant to adjourn ..t, g l e n prayers were read and the Peers called elm Lo a OROSYNNOR then rose and said, that having aw i e d to the evidence, having attended to the ar moots of Counsel on both sides, having attended u ar guments advanced by the Noble L o rds w h o ,Pate yesterday, having attended to the whole circuit.- sltbe ease. he declared, before (101 l and his NNW, Mat is he mind, judging from the evidence ai g h keen adduced at their Lordships bar, the chips sat the Queen were not substantiated. In duty to his honor and his conscience, as ee *ivy at that great slay, when all must ap- Peal we gifiee an accoutit of their own works, he felt tivw snapilayitag atm-content to th e meas nre before thaw* He had to claim a great portion of their lardshigrilealevuee, while he stated the grounds of his islerithistion. On one side he had heard the most eves arguments, to which, be had heard the most elopiest replies; and yesterday the most able and t h i seer speech of the Noble and Learned Lord on • Woolsark. and also the most able and power ful address trout his Noble and Learned Friend (hard Erskine,) whose illness every one of their L o rdships mast regret. Ity that illness, her Majesty hid lost a roost powerful advocate. Ile (Lord (i.) tiould most humbly, and he feared feebly, endeavour to advocate that view of the question upon which he was addressing their Lordships. lie was almost alarmed at stating his sentiments, because he felt how feebly soul inadequately be should do justice to the cause. He exult/ venture to call their attention to one or two • ruts (If that speech deli% rred from the Woolsack which had so powerful an influence upon some of their Larteskips' minds. In it they had been told to hold the hskorshirly. It would have been well if they had always acted open that principle ; and most particularly those Neilelierds opposite, who prejudged thi I qnestion, by advising the omission of her Majesty's name from tSe Litargy.—(Hear, hear.) He had never heard that suisare approved by any man ; but on the con trary, it was en act which had been universally con tinua, Before th.dr Lordships thought of passing it was well worthy their consideration, W he - t her it was likely to pass the other House. lie per ftvtly agreed that generally speaking, soil a eon siiteneiem-sre* -tessesumeeke•-- , 64.-einsiv • iseuisibripes oat Waisted to lessee them in the eyes of the coun try, and to derogate from the dignity of the House. list in ibis case, they should consider that the subject had already been hef ire the other huge, and there, this very measure had been declared to be •• derogatory to the dignity of the' Crown, acid injurious to the best interests of the euentry." A ttreen Bag bad been presented thrire-.-the duplicate of this; but it had not been so ransacked and maintop& The House of Collusions had not suly refused to examine hs contents, but they had absolutely shoved it off OM, table, The Noble and Learned Lord had stated, what never should be fur gotten, that if the slightest doubt remained upon their Loriship's minds, that doubt should be Ist the heiletit of the accused. It was quite lamessible the Hill could pass that House in its pram shape. That wes a concession the Noble Lent who brought forward the measnre was ready to rake. He had already said that the Divorce Clans* woeld be abandoned, and he besought their Lord ships' intention to the state, in which the King,- the Queen, and the Country would be placed. The Queen was not charged with murder, nor with treason, hat with adultery. And still, the Divorce Clause, although according to the opinions of some Noble lards, the ',fluttery had been proved, still the Divorce Haase was to he hawked our, and then it would be well to ren.a7k the extraordinary situation of the Queen. She was to remain in the country, and yet was not to be Queen: she was td be the wife of the but nut of the country.—(.l laugh.)—Tlsis was the must incomprehensible, the most doable en- Nide* state, he had ever known an individual placed ie--(3lnch langliing.)—Hts Noble Friends who sup ported that measure, although he slid not seem to agree to the latent of credit that was due to Demnnt, Bassein, or Id ajocchi, still they seemed in perfect unison es to the degree of discredit that had been thrown on the entire case by their evidence. Awl he was certainly of opinion that ink evidence of Bastelli, Demon: and were thrown out of the ease, little would rna a in for their Lordships to decide. Throw out their lidence, anti he would maintain that no single act had been prayed from whence they could legally draw an iaference of guilt. But the Noble and Learned Lord at the table. (we presume the Chancellor,) although he was willing. to abandon that part of the case, still be in sisted that there was ground for suspicion, and great in decency had been proved. But might them not be sus picion en one side as well as the other? And when their Lordships had such undisputed evidence of the gross conduct that had been remised on the occasion, might they not reasonably expect that the whole story that had beta told about Carlsruhe might be a fabrication t He would ask, might not some of the Grimmer those persons ' who had figured in that transaction, might they not, for the sake of degrading tie Queen, for the sake of de -I,treYing the homier, and even the life of her Majesty, have thrown that cloak ou the bed, and thus laid the fonsdation for their infamous story;—(Hear, hear.) — Their l e ordships were ansisaintad with the story of Othello. And might there set be at the present day, As well as than, some ham lege, to steal the handkerchief from the (bees, nod poison the ear of her httsband ,*!,_ (L audios.' continuedcheers.)—Suipieion should operate lit one side, if it were 'liberal on the other.— (Cheers.) The Noble Lord theri entered into the ar guments that had been used on the ether side. Much had barn said about all the relatives of Reread being brought about the Princess. These he tlsonkht were abstract considerations. Much hail been said of all the honors, awl titles, and emoluments that had bona conferred on him ; but their Lord ships had before them the must incontestible proofs that these honors were the soli rewards of his merit. And there was one circumstance in particular that he wished theirLordshipe never to lose sight of, that after liergansi had been elevated to this situation. there was not the slightest proof that he lessened, in any de- , gree, his respect for the Princess or any one else its the I, household. That was an important fart. For how far I different would his conduct hare been, if the Queen had conducted herself towards hint as was represented? In looking at the testimony of Dumont, it was not a little remarkable that, although her sole object appeared to he the destruction of her generous and illustrious mis tress, she had never spoken to a single art of personal indecency On tile part of, her Majesty. Whenever the examination of that witness pointed towards acts of inde cency, the case always stopped short. After some humo rous remarks upon Sacchi,ltastelli and 3lajocchi, the latter of whom the Noble Earl termed the Chaneellor of Cotton Gersten, he proceeded to observe upon Cuehi, the witness of Trieste, and ridiculed the miserable attempt to criminate the Queen on the evidence of such a man as he was. The Noble Earl said he was ready to admit that it was not altogether becom ing to mix up levity with the consideration of so grave and important • subject ; but the present extraordinary case cause before the House in so many points of view, that it was scarcely pos sible to refrain from looking at them all. The Noble Earl was now for a considerable time inaudible below the liar, but on our beginning to rehear Moo, he was touching upon the extraordinary remuneration which was paid to the foreign witnesses, and espe , iollv to the master and mate of the polacre. After com menting on the evidence of these permits. the Noble Earl said he was not inclined to accuse them of per jury, and he was therefore willing to believe they must have been under some misapprehension Isis!, respect to the familiarities which they said had come under their own observation on board the polacre. When persons bad one- , lo:Ined es-en an unfounded suspicion, every; subsequent act appeared to them as a continuation et, that suspicion. This applied particularly to every awspicion respecting the sexes. He knew a pm son who bad formed a most unjust suspicion of his wife. She was on some occasion afterwards locked up in a room fix some time, and her husband ou entering the roam awing two chairs together, felt his jealousy increased tun-fold, and rendered himself unhappy, although than, ! was no other cirenrostauce for which be had meg ground to form a suspicion. But this was the nature 'of the human mind. Passion invariably got the better of reason, and their Lordships clothd not be too muds on their guard in listening to the 'siderite of Hs. who laboased Andes a -precoseeived. Referring to the conduct of the Government towards ' her Majesty previous to the present trial, his Leeds ship remarked upon the omission of her Majesty's same in the Liturgy. With reference to that circum- Natter, reports had gone abroad, and, although he was as little disposed as any man to attach any weight to reports, he would mention, that it had been industriously circulated, that this omission was the personal act of the King, and that when the Archbishop of Canterbury waited upon his Majesty with the Liturgy, properly at- I I tired, the King had himself insisted on the obliteration lof her Majesty's name. Whether this was the fart he knew not ; but this he knew, that if be were the Archbi shop ofCaaterbory, and the King on such an occasion were ; to insist upon such an obliteration, be (Lord 0.) would throw the Liturgy into the King's face, and trample up- I on the vals of dirty office, 'ere he would lend himself. ler consent to a violation of all law, all decency, and all humanity. Respecting a subject upon which so much bad been said, be meant the o p enin g s p eech of, the Attorney-tleneral, and the unanswered proof, as compared with the opening,. he (Lord G.) conceived, that no blame could, in fairness, be attached to the Learned Attorney, for he had attended their Dar, in obedience to their Lordships order, and bad made his opening from the instructions in his brief. Ile was not aware, that he had any other observations to make upon the evidence. He conjured their Lordships to pause before they adopted a m . , which would disgust the sound part of the country, and afford the unsound an opportunity of which they would err- Vainly stall themselves. The rejection of this Bill would afford satisfaction to the liberal part of Europe, and would be a disappointment only to petty despots. and their slaves. In judging of this question, he trusted their Lordships would divest themselves of all prejudices and partialities; for they offered up their prayers every morning to the Almighty, that he would assist them to do so. The Noble Earl concluded, by expressing his free determination to oppose the second reading of the Bilk The Earl of HAREWOOD said, that it was not his tent/on, neither did he feel himself competent to go through the evidence. He felt himself iu the double i situation of Judge and Legislator, and he therefore Was under some difficulty in cossidering the present question. He.would very shortly state the general impression on his mind, ar'sing out of the whole evi dence. Much be thought bad bees fully contradicted, much - remained upon very loose ground, and the re mainder he was sorry to say be considerd as standing on much firmer graced, and that bad left a strong sits picion on his mind. He conceived it his duty to rou nder the nature of the evidence, and although he did not carry the prejudice so strong against foreigners as to say they ought not to he bekesed upon oath, a prejudice anworthy a civilised country, yet be thought a strong case bad been made out of the getting up. testimony, not Improperly, but in a way whicli i induced fair and reasosabli doubts of , genstineuess. He had strong doubts epos several{ parts of the evidence; but be wished that vs ebb whole be mold express binseelf es-well satisfied of gil l Queen's innocence as he wail of . the present imam* He regretted it bid been brought into that Hein* THE STAtESMAN - -.- ail, aml more ws, that it had been brought in its pre- sent shape.•—{Hear, hear.) At the s4nse time, he was convinced, that whatever might be the present feeling of the country, he was Satisfied their manly character and their good sense would prevent their falling into intemperance. He had witnessed that manly character and that good sense on many orations, and he hoped hi should not outlive it. But, on the other hand, it would be prudent not to excite irritation, and those who proposed the present m would do well to con sider, that among Englishmen oppression was not the medium of conciliation. (Hear, hear, hear.) We un derstood the Noble Earl to conclude by saying he should oppose the Bill. The Earl of DONOUGHNORE condemned the course of argument adopted by his Noble Friend. (Earl 8r05.,- nor.) as calculated to foment and increase the public irri tation,anil lead the people to think that they were the gm verners and not the Parlianient. No man had a deeper respect than he for thin wire, and he would say, phi losophic nation. But this was not a time to sacrifice the diesnity of Parliament.—(Hear, hear.) Having paid that respect which was due to the Noble Earl's speech, he would now go into a consideration of *hi.; great and important case. In coming to a determi nation upon it, he certainly should not call to his aid the evidence of Demont, hiajocchi, Sacchi, Cuehi, or of Barbara Kress. The Noble Earl then proceeded to esta bllehe case against her ataiesty,upon the ground of fami liarities and the sleeping under the tent; reading over long passages of the evidence, and commenting upon them. The Noble Lord then referred their Lordships to that part of the evidence niters Paturro was desired to go away by the Captain, because the Princess nes going in the lied with Bergami. From these circumstances it must appear that that place had been selected for the pnrpose of carrying on the adulterous intercourse. But were facts of this kind proved only by witnesses that were produced in support of the Bill ? Had Lieutenant flown im proved nothing ? He swore distinctly that Bergaiiii ;oolitic Princes% slept tinder the tent. Anil although this fact is in itself of the utmost importanc., still more important did it be come from the manner in which it was told. Their Lordships must have observed the reltietame with which it was dragged from him, which demonstrates clearly the value he himself had attached to lie fact. Ha rould. not therefore doubt that adultery had been committed, and also that a long series of an adulterous intercourse had been carried on. He did not know how any man reading the evidence could doubt the fact. He could not avoid espreesing his opinion that language had b; en used at the liar of that House highly improper. Their Lordships had been told that the public had pronounced its verdict. Her had a great respect for public opinion. Tim, people of England were a reasonable people. and ho concurred with the Noble Lord in the gallery. that they would submit to whatever decision the House wake. There was indeed a pat t of the public who had decided before the case had been heard. The first moment the Queen landed in ibis country. addsosaisis had boom wading to her, but U was non Gat fart of the public he respected. Belt their Lordships had also been told by the Counsel it the Bar, that if they pronounced a decision contrary to his client, that it would he the lost decision they might ever pronounce.—(Hear, hear.) This was an argument so ridiculous, that it could he hardly addressed to reasona ble men. That House had always supported the highest character, and he made bold to say, that no man within the Bar, or withont the Bar, should say they woald nut continue so. Hr hoped. nay, he felt con fident that the House would pronounce its decision fearlessly, and that whatever opinion they . pronounced, would be founded in justice. Earl (AEI said be was anxious to hear the opinion of those who were likely to have influence upon the House, befog he proceeded to offer his *Mom on the pre , question. He would first say, witl.out meaning any in sent civility to his noblefriends, that topics hail been Ise trod uced by them which it would hare been better to leave Untouched. If Counsel in the course of their addresses at their Lordships Bar, had made use of language which trespassed on the duty they owed to their king and their country, or upon the respect they owed that tiouse.their Lordships ought not to have sat a single moment to hear such language, and comment therefore upon itat the pre sent moment was neither useful nor proper. (Hear, hear.) But although he thought his Noble Friends had unintentionally tuisrepreorited this matter, it was not his duty to arraign or defend the Counsel in this cause, fur he hail a fat different ditty to pert .rm, and be therefore should not follow the example of Lit Learned Friends. There was a point in the speech of the Noble Earl who hail last spoken, whirls considerably surprised hint. That Noble Ear l said, the Noble and Learned Lord on the Wool sack had disappointed him in not having entered Into a comprehensive view of the evidence fur their information and instruction. The Noble Earl ought to know that that Learned Lurd was rot the presiding judge on this occasion. He was merely • a Peer among Peers, and a juror among jurors. That Learned Lord sat in that Howe to state his own opinion and to defend it if neces sary, lost he had no presiding jurisdiction. Ibis much be had thought it necessary to presume in de fence of the Learned Lord on the Woolsack. • (To be continued in a Second Edition.) Addresses to the Queen are positing in from every part of England and Scotland. Alderman 'Weed hhs received a considerable number since Monday las.-- one from the East Kent mititia.sissembled at • Canter bury, signed by almost all the privates. Yesterday Count Munster had ea audience of his , Majesty at his palace in Pall•mall. Hairnet of a Getter from the Arnie to Lloyd% at Clem*, dated list of Octobrr By a recent fester I frogs *weenies tee learn, dist the Algerloomete At.' tin` out a Beet of eleven sail, and it was generally supposed fot the purpose of emitting agailst the Hans and Portuguese." The inhabitants of the United torishoe of St. o i lo 4- 004 Piettautbory are to bees a imador otel s oes ., day pelt, to toosider of in Address to her 31ajesty. SPORTY:VG INTELLIGENCE• rfirownstr 1101;01fTON sttrtnra. • 'hoops+, Nov. s. dabseription Plaudit:op Asto of 14. for 9-yrs-oldi and uir4rortis. Mt. Bstson's h. f. Lon, by Medic?, out of lone. 3 yes Old. ?Si. 9lb • Lora Yenisei's b. e. Vetoriftsriss. by . Pioneer, 3 yes. Set, It Dote of Oroftoo's be:f. by Waxy, out of Pawn, $ yrs 9st ;* . t : • 9 tir I V Loss-41110 &elk Volorlooriss-4 1 to 4 sot .%., ...r. Duke of,Oryihoo's br. f. Mt 'Thornhlll's Sardonic. beat Mr. Rogers' s Lounger 61 ?lb. each. T. Y. C. 80 gs. 10 to 6 on tiaraoviis. 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M. 200 gs, h. ft. 13 to 8 on Mr.:„ow. • .P DRURY-LANE THEATRE. Mr. COONS!' repeated his performance of Romeo last night with inereaerd surcess. Going with More eons tletire to the execution of his task, he infused a degree of spirit Into the early seen.", which 'to the first eight was neutralized by the embarrassment naturally Mitring from his situation. The last scone is netioubtedly one of the moat perfect specimens of tioished acting which the stage cats boast. Mrs. WEST played Joliet last night with even greater effect than before. Hers is certainly upon the whole, an nurivalled performance. SUDDEN INDISWIO.7ITORD Envusr.. The iniii.anaition with which Lord Erskine was af fected was such as not only to disable him from proceed ing with his speech, but to deprive bins, for a time. of all sensibility. While addressing their Lordships, he suddenly paused: this was no: particularly noticed at first, as it appeared as if his Lordship were looking over the minutes placed on the table before him; but after sonic time hail elapsed. withont resuming his speech, sonic of the Peer. heretoe alarmed, and rose frionalloir seats to proceed in his Lordship. The :anxiety of the whole Holuse was then aroused, at the Noble Lord fit forward on the table in a senseless state. There were tries of " Open the windows."—" Some water." The Lord Chancellor and Lord Liverpool evinced the greatest concern. and • proceeded imrop,intely to Lord E es kin-'4 assistance. They, with the assistance of Earl. Urey and Cameron, and Lord Holland, raised his Lordship; but his speech and colour were gone. They then became seriously alarmed, and instantly proceeded tv convey him oat of the noose. The attack was so severe, ---'- '"• 4 11 were obliges! literally to carry his Lordship lite Howie, and into an adjoining room. Lord Erskine, after remaining iu Ar. Cowper 's room for a short time, so far recovered as to be able to rota sole the friends around him in some degree, he speaking to them. Sir W. tinvohton, who happened to be ni the lloa..:, immediately attended his Lordship; and Mr. Ilolt, the respectable surgeon of Parliament-street. was rent for. They Timid that exhaustion and agita tion hail occasioned the failure dint Loril.hip'setren„. l ll. and the interruption of the usual exercise of his facnl- Bet ; and they recommended repose. They were against bleeding his Lordship. thongh some of time friends.pre sent considered such course as likely to afford relief. His advanced age, and the improve-meet in health that bad taken place in a short tone, induced the medical gentlemen to deem such course most unadvisable. His Lordship having still further recovered, he Wait conveyed to . the Earl Marshal's apartments in the House of Lords; but lie could then only walk when supported I breach arm by two Noble Peers. He remaiuesi these alostit half an hour, when his friends and the medical tientleinen succeeded in persuading his Lordship to re turn home, as they conid not promise him the recovery of sufficient strength to he enable d to relines his "tech i n the noose of !soak till another day. lie thee pro. ceelled to a carriage and left the House. • 'lke friends of justice, freedom and humanity. will we • are sure, he peculiarly gratified to learn thatlis Ital ahip was match easier last night. His Lordship liarbiwe for some dart afilirted with a movement complaint. for which he load taken a strong dose of opiate,. hut whatever may he the state of his health, we ate aerlened . that this venerable and uniform wirocate of honest pus lit principle, will attend to vote apinat the otliousprom• sure which he yesterday so manfully and ahly opprterelh . even if it should be necessary for hint to be eirriedlo the House of Lords. . . • ..• • - The following were among•the visitors at Brandeis berth hunte yesterday :—Earl Thaw, Zirl - Coversit, Laity Lucy Foley, Mr. Peter Moore, Mr. flarbetßeabi; most, Mrs. Beaumont, Miss Beaumont, end sir Ate: reed Noel. Yeiterday a considerable ctowd collected nett um Nesse of Lords, sod towards the hour of four o'elOClt. the cfowd Increased, and et several of ihe lawatisi sensing oat, they were rehired witNclieera, 'sof some with hisses. Several perlotis Wert liken Into custody • by the constables for beteg .fry clamorous. and one man, she was stindllsg ntsr a horse patrol., having hissed the Martinis of Anglesey, the hone Petrel. La: terfered, when the persons near tmmetlisllltt nen. tented an ahutive attack upon the constables sttd introits, who repeatedly rode amongst them; to die; pen* the cmwd.• Two prrsoos were taken ban to 2teen•sqnsre Pdliee-office. An attempt was to Melte them, which failed—A.3ml some Norm Par* ' coming up at the time, were pelted with mud, but clog' soon dispersed the cuffed. • ' • The rearm House of Lords held-tame to the iwtertlew with t Tyrwhitt. • Sir Gist of the Cons Not House. Was for a long It will he seen, kr alleded to sr Omen lumen ilionded. Ipbt ~ tensility eneegh out ' _ ' . V I i I ' tiro rrotrti. • ' • • '• 1— ars etrunt yi,tertiay linttilitt at tiro ords were sarioit. Sit lionjands Bloc the. Knew at ati tidy boor, tad had . th the Lord Charietlitir and Sir Tineriiii • 4k T. Tyurhitt then :imputed to us ibo • unmet of the Quees 1044.1111_1d atti This hapretiod to bo Mk Ti11bn._,.....9110 ig time closeted ern Sit. T. Tresiold 'en, that in tire Lord Cbtiatta il l 4 • ' rar proratitisu of g• private • 'Meet tbt. huironts is t •Mk base nothike ott - i)glt to uffct them to oar rearm.