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i(11: - .4 1 / 4 ,:2 N.2 e ir* • 41(•• - • NIL * c . r.err or Tim Earl of OAIiNiAY move.[ 1rr,;.,:y4 fir :.): p tit 011eCt jir:llicliat s .MI•ita111131C. - 4:- :‘ : t:L .11 . . • .. .... .. I :' I ~ '. L'.l: llll~• *.; :1 • • • • ~.'. •• Np: 1 ..s ::1, a..a ..... .. .. ... . , EA: 1.1.: •F THE NEGOCIATION WITH 13tE QULI:N.— Oe Earl or LIVE 0001, said, he to the :louse, cat a fortuer oceesiod, by Ids .11ajesiy's command, contain paperc, which the house rei_rted to a Secret Conlalittce. Since that proceeding he Lad considered it his duty to move the postpone • • ' , sent of tile sitting of that Committee. That inotiou was ibun , lcd on a hope, e.1: 4 C.11b3 . 1011 and explanation might iced to a resuit which would render ptheeedings in the Committee unnecessary. " It is with regret,' said the Nohie Earl, • .1 now mate to the House, that the discussion 411 a eaplenations nave not led to result which was hoped for by the House, and expected by myself . , during two or three days. Cousideling the state in whicS , the business new steeds, I feel I should net. discharge the duty I oee. to anis House, and the Public, it. ta conjunction witia nu M s je:ey's stecant,, I had hot advised his 'alajasty to direct that there be hetuee this House copies of the yasites and couiruu ni,74liolls oat Stibieet, since the corsespomsence took place. 1 I.e!ut is any hait-.1 savers oa the subject, which, by his isiz,jaty's taffirn.tuil, I i;,:r 'uviute tie Houle. will be painteu with, and b uu the tab'c to-too:low. At tile curve dine, wlien I iniinae the House as to the state of these commidaicatioas, 1 must 'remind ',your Lordships that the Secret' Committee are to meet to-marrow ; but I should not act consistenaly in respect of the proczlitig adopted by your Lordships if I allowed tne Conouthee to ante: uefore your Lordships had an oppor,unity of castling these I.asets; I thsrefeie p:opase that the macho' on. the Secret Comaii'tee be adjourned to Friday." The Order for the meeting to-morrow was conseqaently dis charged, and fixed for Friday. The alarvis of LANSIJOWN then asked the No'ale Carl what course he meant to take, and whethsr the House was to expect any speadie propopositiun t'ountled on the papers just sueser ted ? rile Earl of LIVERPOOL observed that all he had to do was to lay the papers before the House, by command of his Majesty, and having delivered the papers, he kit them to the considi r ation of the !louse. Earl GREY comidered this a most extraordinary proceeding. He was desirous of as:iing tor explanation of the Noble Earl.— .. What I want to know," said Earl Grey, " is, what is the object in laying these papers hefore the House. Whether any proceeding with respect to the papers laid before the House was necessary or not, it was the duty et his Majesty's Ministers to state the necessity, but in this instance the Ministers appeared to shrink from responsibility, throwing it on l'arliament and the Crown." The Earl of Ilar:owhy justified the proceeding then before the House. It could not be supposed, in a ease which had no pre cedent to guide them, that has Majesty's advisers could withhold the papers from Parliament. Lord HOLLAND said, the Noble Earl occasionally brought down green bags against the people, and there was no desire to conceal the contents. Ministers generally pointed out what the Secret Goturnitteea were to do, but here the responsibility was spoken of. They would not say what could be done. There was every tiispositioa to tataw the tesponslbility on i'arliament. Lord DACIIE then moved the titles of the said papers be teed. Lord ROLLE objeated to reading the papers, there being a motion for adjousnment before the House. After some discussion on the point of order, the heads or titles a the papers were read. They appeared to he commun . :unions which p sled between the Queen, Mr. Brougham, stall his Majesty's Munster*, front tile 9th o.litue to tnis day, with fro *seals of couterentee held an St. James's Souare. The 1..01tD CHANCELLOR then put the question of adjournment, and tile House was adjourned. TUESDAY, JUNE 20. . . Lord AUCKLAND moven, that the Insolvent Debtors' Dili be printed, and gave notice, that he should move the second reading wuc•n the prints were on the table. The Loon Bill was read a second time, and Lord Liver tool gave notice of his intention to move the third Leading to-niorittw, East GROVENOR made some remarks hostile to the additional milit:iry for ce at present kept up, and con sidered it inomisiateot with the spirit of economy. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, his Majesty's ser vants hail acted in tll4 instance, as in all others, with strict adliereitce to tire recomitieudatiou contained in the :Speech from the 'Chi one Earl GROSVENOR was not satiAfied with the expla• nation of the Noble Ea, I; and gave notice of a motion far the reduction of the aforesaid additional torte to. tltnnuW ' i • LC Home went into Committee on the Alien• and Dcatzett's Hilt, in which the Eari of LAUDERDALE moved to Sur it thej tittiation of the 801 to one year instead of two. Tile 'maim* waa negatived withont a divistiou. The hill then •h a Committee Mr. Elogilen a.. t• , ..omit the Commons brought up the Bill te. •, t of Excheyner in Ireland, The Watch , which were read the fire time. The House $I:j:;u:,:e• WEDNESDAY, JUNE 21. The Alkalis and Denacus Lill was !Lad a third time and TaFsed. Thc Loan Itill wt.:- read a third time. REDUCTION tN rIlt: AilltY.—Earl GROSVENOR rose ell the third ictelc.g ut the Alumly 11,11, co to notice, for the reduciion of the adatti .. military tin ce.—The Noble Earl said, he c,thtalertal the country attached to the CommtiMatt, and a. In; alit. tacit by the ap pearance of a standing /010 j. Tuicr ti!O ha:lacks in diffe..eir. part:, of tit country. t/i1j....C. tIOPIILIe. Tile increase t rsck., a :1; nipuria in various palladia , Radicals Wirt to and Wl:CreVtr yini. a rciai.: are Lk: '..-; NoDit Kari, v r all the AICCON Of (rout '.r4,010 Tea.,- for 14 tiLe ILL. a., ac.cartaloy moved to trinkt, i! , .1 The Earl of 1:1, ditaatielktiou to ''.;:r; Iliany paths' or ti'; i.• would have soya' OW! 41fall on the salij...c, It ttloti -.- sary for the peace tiad L_iii.o: •it tile t.,:,:.,L,-y, De .. - tcrce to it ; but it was lAA. epita,irs t V,r/ mat, t.t . me rod Of last ran., and dr: of that wr , a , trl hi tce i rout Indisperuablti „t„riti s cion of tie rralOtry. • Tout latII:e Y.; ciald eat sufrer the Noble Earl might Loreto thth 1:;C: y , • 1,::1 tr.:l hi [Lt. THE NATIONAL REGISTER. et any nreasete necessary for the welfare and security of the ceeterv. • ne . ..ese l ein was then nrit-arel negetived :Neia :soli the 11:11 ,e.ei a tient units:eel lasseu. _ 'esigitense aiijourned. rutresnev, ever V. • Tree Qtre:EV.--:niki Earl of 1.1 V Ell POOl. this day artily-e -rn a !,t,5 , ....7 , 1 - . • • •upon 1. I , r:sent nserly tee tie tee fo.-ow mg .6 My 1. esk, n is wall extrsnet regret, after whet had paweed on t! se se of the flyers sattenheei to a eie.ret Ce,rinrittee, •• 1! :- •si e any f ee aeli nt on the order fixed estre . ; :•sit eirettnistarittee ha. corn es my kienvheige Lordehips last met in this House, tact lead me eull s• . :r. ;.nt: of the Committee may ::eider investi • e reefer 'leer-tee:try. Ceder i n •,-,ew I slimed not ••- a:eel roil !stemin Cie enorse we hevc aitoptett, it I did • ,:':,pas:' a 1 1::' liar adjol:rial: ,, is the Conitnite cto Tuescay next. At the reene time, lam fully sensible of all the incon venience which must eei,e from reilee. It is noihteg but pres:tug necessity maltei see adept this ere.ise, trod I ae-erre your LOLd• SitiPA, that in C.4se I should :londay And such an adjaurn- Meet ineffective, I wilt t h en per mit. Earl GREY.—.' I ec:tainly cannot but feel it is extraordinary such a proposal shattid be matte; but wtiea the Noble Earl hopes from circumstances which have recently come to his knowledge, to remove uie necessity of enquiry upon the present unhappy ..iffeeencert, it is itireossible for one to oppose the inonon ; at the ssine t,1313 I cannot help Looking at the extraordinary situation wit House is placed in, by the uncettain and vacillating conduct of tee Not.te Lords epposee. It sine:els that Alinisiers have never had courage to make up their minds to give advice to their Sovereign when th's mill:trey case was proposed to them for negeciation. 11 was for them ti see whether there were grounds for areusation against the Qireen, net Majesty or not. 11 there caused eretinus, it was cher duty to act up to the law. If there were :jotir.ls to induce them to abstain from bringing it forward. is wes melt duty to state the reasons upon which they acted.— The green bag came forward to • fright the Island, as it were, from as pro, tasty.' On the Message corning coming down they appointed a committee to take the contents ot the beg into con. sitieratioe. In entiseepsence of something done elsewhere we atijuurn from day to day, and now the last period of adjourn ment has arrivei. we obtain no benefit from the etispense." Lord LIVERPOOL---" I feel it important, aster tee speech of the Noble Earl, to sty a few words.--Th , Maligns ot the Crown were the only persons acquainted with the papers, and the only persons qualified to nitrite a communication on the sub ject, or put& that communicauon. Ile was prepated to eay, the motion then before the House was one of great public interest, and he begged the House to suspend their judgment until Ministers had an opportunity to explain their conduct. He thd not USk of tire Noble Earl that justice; he dht not expect toe Noble Earl would afford it to loin ; but he relied en tile candour of the House, and again begged them to suspend their judgment. Lard HOLLAND eid no: oppose the mouun for harmer ad journment, but the most manly way would have been to deter the consideration in the first instance for several days. The Noble Lord, in a lofty tone, said he had no impruper motives.— It was not said tie two, but confidence had been placed upon persons who had shook oft' all responsibility from themselves upon Parliament. 's'ho're never was a casein which the advisers of the Crown appeared to less advantage. Lord ERSKINE said, it the papers in the greets bag could justily Parliament to passing a Divorce Rill, or compelieng her Majesty to reside out of tire kingdom, he should have expected hta Majesty's Ministers to come down with a direct p,oposiiion Mutated on those papers. lie found, however, a neva:Aron, in which his Majesty's Ministets treated her Majesty as a Queen.— If too, what r,gin had they to call ell a Secret Committee to treat her as a crimnial, when Ministers themselves, with a knowledge of the green bag, treated her as a Queen. Earl DARN LEY agreed to the motion. He did not think the • House could'he disgraced by adjeuminenr, but a series of false moeereents had led the House to a situation of difficulty. I: was a period of false MOTS. The motion was then agreed to, and the order for the Com mittee to meet was fixed tor Tuesday next. The Marquis of LANSDetie! NE moved, that the Select Committee on the trade of the country be at liberty to report from time to time to the !louse.-o.dered. The House adjourned. ritineer, aims: 23. COMMIIISION.—The klng's Itanoval Bill, and seven private Bills received the lite al Assent by Commission. The Commissioners were the Loru Chancellor, Lord iledesdeic, and the Earl of Shaftabury. Several Bills were brought up faint the Commons, and read the first time. 1' Rs GREY rose to as:: the Noble Lords in his Majesty's Governmeet, whetl.er eie ceoettsttou yesterday stated, to induce the H cmse to coascai to the ee,oteninent of au unfortunate teisine.ss, wiecti i•au long tit:teepee, me House and the puttee was ilk- ty realized, and whetl;ir any nor pro ceiscimg e.as in be I.l . 4ahett to the !louse on M•diddy nett. ti it was the intention ot Ministers to introduce any such proposition. he siumet pogrom! any motion he might Lase - iti contemplation till tie ticard %hat Ministers proposed. It, on the contrary, the Noble Lords could make no proposal, and it was their intention to let tee Coinmittee go on, he should in that event feel it iris duty to can the consideratiou of the House to the propriety of discentintarig tie course of procceeling they had adopted. The examination of this wilititunate business had been retetrcd to a Secret Coinnettee. To MA prozeeding he Mu; the Strongest. ob. jection at Lite commencement; lei: he bad since fen his oppoOtiori tortitiel end ILCtr:.seu be what lied ocetmed elsewhere. He round in tee %we, mot rezt.w.ltion or the Hulse or Commons, sepportril by tee et/Morey ot Ins Nlajesty's an ailints,mn r.,1 II the prike,adiL t; w ..hear i'.,ll•.oncro was eng4eit couldha.t no other resort 1.4 drat,ll hlt bails; 1.C:6,;•;,t0r1 , from it dieter) of the Crown. and :11, I:,It,CCA On the MtVf an admission by \ mi. t: et r .ey in a proceeding which could :he afiiresai ' d it we- impossible tor this . •::Cll meriture gave mime, eet ,_ els 'ii:.,- NimlsLvtl aid no: Cole pet pared on Mo.. •.., • MO: I. lit himself suore•i a .1.• ss• to the ft twee kial Inured brat the Lords be sunimuntal tor Tile M hyhg, wail ti, , ,sptitet of :lie I.oid Chided. ler, out of the House, tile Nold. Earl tees - teed tee answer to his question. Tire LORD CHANCELLOR ieetenCy put the question of adjournment, sins the I twee adjuuntea to Mouthq. HOUSE OqmfN.s MoNnAN—IuNLI-J. " RIOT AIoNEY.--Lul u N .1 . NT u,krtl, as tite..c had been sonic tli,tut Wince a intai :; ,: tur iniii!Jyy, and knoviing liorbilig any Incieuseti the men un bto.g called iglu aerial P. / cit . r, is: it Lid 1)(1,11 Litt. tnacttce 10 grAtil, outit . r t - eitno: Zin.,kvatic., Under the name ul 14.14,L a•! • Alf. LIECKE, IT ‘‘u3 Ilut 1.1 tpitl ezl 4) :~ ',w F.ASIII.4OIAVOLUN'I I;I(3.—MIr.CR I F.V . , h : (1,t1,;:t , he ltU ought wittett the Noble I.wil t r utpli ry, as not io tt lu bt itAt; :ei,wit; twit: to day. Lord BLS NING it tendud to poAte,ulit: the 4ccoad I tAll• in till howl:1y. Mr. Creevey, Lord rulkstosie, bud Lord lisgent ob ;crveti, thAt more time ought to b. s'ivro to v.:wider a Itill of oo much eauntitutional importance, and that it eettanti, oll,•,llt to lie psinted. — no: sl•e:r,01 I,ustpoled till Friday, and the fredheti.uaNartiutpi. ciiANCrY,I,OR 44 . the 'TNCIIIP.QUER brought in a gilt to wake certain allowatteet, to the Lieenied Brewers of Irelood, out account of the recent INtuit Doty, Kuala a lilst (nu:, and ord , ,:rvd to be read 4 s ecolW time to-marow, I'AILURE or Tnr, N EGOCIATION BETWEEN h(Nti Any QUEEN. The appearnmiT of Lord Castlereagh in the Houoe brought doein Menthe's in increased numbers. Every part of it, the side galleries, &c. became crowded be )und Cd.),(lrrtagh then appi•ared at the Mu, and the Speaker, am:minim! to the customary form, enquired— " Vinat nave con eiq there? " Lord CASiLEhEAGIL—" Papers, 11 command of his Majesty The Speaker. —" Please to bring them up." Lord Castlereagh brought the papers, and handed them to the clerk. ills lord-hip Otta muted that the titles of the papers be react.— Motion agreed tu. The Clerk of the Haase then read the titles of the papers. They were—a romminiteation tion) 111 c Queen to Lord Liverp•oh, dated June 9, and his lordship's answer of the. Wu June ; a cominuttletvion from the Queen to Lord Liverpool, June 12, and his lordship's o timer ; and a coonoluoication to Load Liverpool, ACCOIII - (.1 b, a note fluid Mr. Blongloaon, proposing that arbitiistota he named, and Lord Liverpool's answer, June 13. There vs etc also picturofs of notes of confer. etiees held at St. James's Square, and at the Foreign °thee. There were five of tiite..e conferences, the pro. picot.: prepared at which Intel iugs were presented. The titles of the Paper. having been read, • Lord CA' ILEttLACH again rose, but owing to the low tune in which he spoke, and the cries of Hear! Lordship Was indistinctly heard. He had presented the conanititireat bolls that had Idiots& place, and accounts alb: coulerences the had been held; but Ise 'wheeled to add, as the House would leash on perusing the doettineets, tnat the negotiations which had °centred had nut led tc any sattsfaerosy arrangement.—(Gies of Hear I)—He IA4• grieved to have Mac Idatellivill to make; but after having presented, in ecnopilaitee with his Majesty's must gracious commaint, seuuu , doeunieats, he did lint intend to propose that any fusilier delineration should use pro ceeded in at the present moment. 'flint the House taught have time to investi.;Ate she authentic documents now laid before them, and *lnch were to progress of painting, au/ would be ready for delivery early to-usuriow, he should hno.e, that the Adjourned debate on ins Majesty's most gracious message be resumed on neat. H e proposal tat adjourn over to-morrow, to order that time Might be allowed to deliberate on .he Papers, documents that it would ue essential to have nniltr consideration lu the appluaebloog debate on the message; and he therefore now moved, that the order of the day for resuming the adjaut lied debate. on Ids Majesty's molt gracious message be reed for the purpose of its tieing deichargeti He should then mare, that tie .tdjuttined deb...te be • 'vaunted on Wednesday next. Olr. aILOU(ItiAM nest rose. We understood him to -. - lament, in commou with the Noble Lard, the tmfaviatrable result of thtte hc,, , ,uciatious which hod taken place ; to be deeply COUCCrlicti that they had had so uotampy a termini'- Lon. That 'WM ever lie blame, he thought oa viewing the documeuts, it would be admit', d, attached itself to the Queen; but t tt:ta probaule the House might eventually be of opiiii iiii that there Llattse souneviheie. The questtou .va9 tiled put and agreed to, sod the debate en the Asst,. Awaited to Wednesday. Tug But GE i.--Tbe CiIANf.:ELLOR of the EXCHE QUER moved, that the !ionic resolve Itself into a Coo• iodttee u' Way. and Nicol's, which was agreed to. The tioaxe ocetrihngly resolved islet( into such Committee, but the iimse auto as to make the statements no: very audible iu the gnilery—they were - kidded very ha itcetty heard; liuwever, the getteleil results were con tra:ifs ut the Estimates of the Supplies mom for the laAt t oil' with those of llu present year, as fullovit : Granted for Estimate for 1819. 1810. 8,784410 Army £ 9,422,000 6,436,781 N.ay 6,586,700 t ,19 I ,000 chtlii.thce 2,078,10 Mismlaneuus 1 ts,4itc,ltsS Total Supplies 11012,300 1,5w,00u I. terest on Exchequer Bills 430,000 Sinking I , und ou Dmo ,i 41,158,443 20,725,3(:_4 to,itiu,ouo By Reduction of Unfunded Debt 9,000,0l 30,98E4,488 29,723,3 CU ite &tight Hun. Gentleman detailed the Ways /soil Meaus of Ht tlog the Sopptics, the taut.. csioist. .cootrasting the two years, and the general Istalcluent was to the following pUipoi ; Grun Led for Estimate Cur is! .. _„. 1620 5,00u,000 Annual Malt 5,5(.0,000 Excise Duti Ls cunii.tutul... 2,500,0ue .t 40,000 Lc ttery ... 3J4,000 Old Stoics 7,0 - t 4,000 6,( CO,Cct 12,000,ac0 I.nan soito,oto Wiut:,uuti z,ti,.ing ltund Luau .12,00),We FuvAiilig Exchcqucr Lials 31,0740.00 30,000,0“.. lle uluu ,!ate of the Unfunded .oeUt. LA') 1b19• ._... Rxcliequef Bills, 59 lito. 3, Cap.... 4 Ditto 59 (it.u. 3, Cue, 13l HA, Tr , .;,sury 11 ."'q 1 011, 4 .sated for Aid to .11Ltiailtc:tit,:r4, Yiblierie.,, , 1 / 4 c. 51 (4-0. S t Cap. 34 39,50vic Tire acconal for present year stool] as follows : lblo.. E:;c:iluce Zills 't tea:, y I ,:k0,061; Ifs Reduction of Unfunded Dike 3015cuMIC 9,0u0,03tC $9,50,6 0 ( 'lite Right Hon. Geotitionn vuucluded a iw two wg toc I‘ (.01 . ,