The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-02-19 00:00:00

1, • pot the linnershle Gentleman in mind that the ba lances had been twice reduced since the renewal of the tharter. Soon after the renewal the Bank had agreed to allow three millions oat of th., twelve, and in Ibl9 a I.ill had been brought in to reduce the balance other six soilliont. It thus appeared that since the renewal of the Charter this sacred subject of balances, which the llnnoorable Gentleman had considered as closed by the I'lisrter, ha.' since then been reduced nine millions, or three fourths dB, amount. It had been argued, too, that the cam of 7.1 or 8.1. in the pound was but a small sum ; . but it should he recollected this was charged on a rave . tine of sixty millions, and brought about 270,0001. a year to the Bank. He would submit to the House whe. ;her this was or was not disproportionate to the service hich the Bank rendered ? He hoped that the Right Jonourible Gentleman would not object to the appoint meat of a Select Committee, and he (Mr. Grenfell) would pledge himself to submit a plan by which the business would be as well done, and 200,0001. a year saved to the public. Yee, that sum could and ought to be saved to the public. He hoy.sl the Right Hon. Gen tleman would consider it. If a Committee were appointed and he should move for one, be would pledge himself to what be had proposed. Mr. BARING and Mr. RICARDO said a few words in explanation. Mr. MABERLY contended, that though the Bark only received nominally three per cent. in the fifteen • millions they bad lent to Government, yet it really re cries 41 six per cent., because other fifteen millions in paper, which Cost the Bank nothing, was put into circn fatten in the payment of the Exchequer Bills at the some rate of interest. With regard to the balances, the Chancellor of the Exchequer ought to ascertain whether .the charter was binding for the whole time of the re newal. There were many of opinion that it was not for ,the whole, end therefore be would recommend the Com mittee. Mr. HUME rose to throw out a hint of the probability there wasof Government making a profit of a million and a altby becoming theirown bankers. With the m anagemen t of a revenue of 60,000,0001. and an issue of 20 or 30 pillions of paper, which they would have the means of issuing, he was confident they would effect a saving to the amount of 4 millions. He hoped this view of the apseetion would be that taken by the Honoutable Gentle man who at prevent held the situation of Chancellor of the Exchequer, should he fortunately survive the present Charter of the Bank Ca laugh]; he meant, if he SUrtiveil it in his official capacity ' he trusted that he would, and would assure him that if he survived it also, and ha I a seat in the house, he would support the plan. The motion was then pot and agreeed to. Mr. JOHN MARTIN expressed a wish to he informed whether it was intrn !ed tolay before the house an Acconnt •of the Unclalmed Dividends? No such return had been Made for the last eight years. 'she CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. advert ing*to tl e very short period he held his present official appolntetelt, co ild n,ot take upon himself to give at that moment any positive sinner to the question of the Ho noutable r. Mr. J. MARTIN intimated his intention to make a subsequent motion on the subject. Mr. MANNING said, he could inform the Honour able Member that the sithject bad been under the camel 'stet 'don of the Bank Directors for some time, and that an order had been issued to prepare such account. Mr. GRENFELL, io reference to the legal opinions that bad been given to the claims of the Bank, as to the rate of management of the debt, could not admit that These opinion, were decisive of the question. It was ttne that the Lord Chief Baron of Scotland. Sir S. Shepherd, when Attorney General, and then Solicitor denerdl (Sir R. Gifford) were of opinion that the ques tion could not Auw be laid open. On that point be should eentnre to say, that the opinion of no legal man was infallible. Besides, in estimating the value of such opinion, much must depend on thelvay in which the , question was put to those learned Gentlemen. He de. ;tied that the case was put in the manner that it ought ; and that if it had been so put, the result as to tilt it an swer would have been different. It was his impression that the Act of !SOS did not close the question, but that 'it rental red open to such future revision as the interests of the public should r, quire. Mr. MANNING believed that Parliament would be slow to undervalue the opinion °hoes an enlightened law. yer as the present Lord Chief Baron of Scotland, or of his Majesty's present Attornrv.General. At all events, the case was not drawn up by the Directors of the Bank, •nor with their privity • they, therefore, could not be considered responsib le it; but he must think that, 'after such legal opinions had been given and acted upon, the house would out feel jus•ilied in making any altera tion. With respect to the 4,000/. per annum fur House r%petters, he begged to re-call to the recollection of his Honourable Friend (Mr. Gretifell,) that on a former • c•tsittii that qitestion had been set at rest by the produe ti•tn of a document laid on the table of that house, and by which it appeared that to that sum the Bank wes as nwt, entitled as to any other part of its property. The mutions were then agreed to. Lord A. HAMILTON stated bit intention to revive a notice of the 31st of July last, relative to the Magistracy cf Scotland. SAVING BANKS. On bringing op the Report of the. Committee of Supply, Mr. HUME expressed a desire to put a question to the Right Honourable the Chancellor of the Exchequer, relative to the amount of the interest paid on the deposits ',Naylor Barks. It was generally known that the in terest paid to the depositors was at the rate of four and • a half per cent. while the interest to the public was from three and a half to four per cent., by which a lobs accrued to the latter. In what manner was that loss tint le up to the public? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not at that tnontent. from the shortness of the time to which los attention had been called to his present duties, give any precise explanation. Mr. HUME gave notice of his intention, on Monday next, to move ler copies of the correspondence between the States of Jersey and his Majesty's Council, relative 'to the s•aff and clothing of the Insular Militia. He should ad.o, on the same day, stove for a return of the number of brigade Majors placed on half pay in Ireland. The Weal India Trade Bill went through a Com mittee. and the Report oaa ordered to be received to 1110110W. On the motion of Mr. WM. LAMB, there was or tiered to he laid beteg the house a return of the amount of Port Duties on Ships entering and clearing out of the port of Dublin for the last tare, years, stating the law and authority antler which such duties were levied.— Likewise, a return of the pamberof ships engaged in the • Coal l'eatieopeseihrrand Amin out of the said port for he same period.—Adjourned. We are sorry to hear the banking-house of Messrs. Turner and Co., of Chelteabam, was opened by false keys—fire locks and re-locked—and robbed to &consider able amount, in Bask and their own country owes; 2.0001. of which have been paid by their town bankers, Ead•ile an t Co., and we understand nearly the same amount of Bank notes and Wile. WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 19, 1923. BOURBON WAR. Nothing has yet come out, in Parliament, relative to this war ; for, as to the "fine speech " of Ma. BROUGHAM, on the 4th of February, that is now, no.' thing. It was like a fly, which the naturalists say, is born, old, and dead, in three (lays ; especially in hot weather; and, as our readers will remember, it was a hot time, when the "fine speech " was made. Mr. Brougham makes so many free speeches, that we ought to have some distinctive appellation for this. We sill, therefore, call it the " Tim Gentlemen q* rerona ‘‘ speech," which was a piece of wit, the parallel of which has not appeared amongst us, since the days of the Old Jester, Sheridan. It has been wonderfully admired by those excellent judges, the 'prentices and milliners that frequent Drury Lane and Covent Darden. All this, however, is now nothing ; and, we repeat, that, in parliament, ((Wing has yet taken place relative to this Bourbon War. In the meanwhile, it is clear enough that the French will march, and that the Holy Fellows will snatch an army to the borders of France. And, abut shall WE do? The Chronicle says, send out a fleet, which is, it says, now preparing,. This the Courier posiively denies. But, in looking at Mr. Hushisson's speech at Liverpool, it would seem, that the " strict neutrality" nil! be very difficult. There is a rumour that Peet's bill is to be repealed, and that we are to go to war This really seems to be the only way that these Ministers hare of getting out a thilr ties. They must do this, or reduce the interest of the debt! flood Good ! To what have they brought the fa. mous TIIING at lisl ! If th.y repeal the Bill an:l go to war. what will the funds be tcorth? The" Devil take the hindmost," will soon be roe cry. The Ministers will soon he pressed on the subject of the Debt ; and, to avoid. that danger, they will, perhaps rush into the other; for, no thing is more fr, trent, especially with unsteady things, than jumping out of the frying-pan into the Are. Be it as it may, however, the THING must, in one way or an_ other, speedily assume an entirely new shape and charac ter. The Morning Chronic* now says, as we have all along said, that affect is necessary to negotiate lath. THE STATESMAN. AT a notaerons and respectable Me:linr, held at the Oeorge and Vulture Tavern, Conthill, London, on Friday, 14th or Feb. 1843. H EtiltY SMITH, Esq. fit the Chair, Fr WAS RESOLTED, That the present time affords a proper opportunity to urge the chains of the inhabitants of London and its ens irons, to relief from the Coast Doty on Coal. That we are an satisfied of the impolicy of any Duty upon Coal, that we will not, at any time, countenance any propo sition that will have the effect of extending the Duty upon Coal for home consumption. That the Inhabitants of London and Its vicinity be invited to attend a General Meeting, for the purpose of considering and adopting the best means of obtaining relief from the Coast Doty on Coal. That a Committee of Sixty Gentleten be appointed, to prepare the business for such General Meeting, and to take such measures, (by communication with other persons who are now affected by the Coast Duty on Coal) or otherwise. as they shall see fit, towards obtaining relict from this par tial Tax. That a Public Meeting be celled at the City of London Tavern, Bishopsgate-street, for Friday, the 21st inst. at one o'clock, to consider the propriety of a Memorial to Isis Ma jesty's Ministers, and of a Petition to Parliament, fur relief trona the Coastwise Duty on Coal. Sir CHARLES PRICE, BART. in the Chair. The Chair will be taken at two o'clock precisely. *.• Duty 95.44. per Chaldron.rLondon pays 500,11001. per annum. TO THE FREEHOLDERS OE THE COUNTY OP DORSET: GENTLE?. EN, IN consequence of the general wish of the Free '. holden, that Nir. BERKLEY PORTMAN should be put in nomination to succeed his lamented Father, We have this day had the saiisfaction to propose him, and a very large majority of the Freeholders present have, by the deci sion of the High Sher:o; declared the nomination to be in his favour: We therefore, in conjunction with his friends, a Poll being demanded by Mr. Ranker, have determined to abide the event of it, and we earnestly entreat our Brother Freeholders to make every exertion in this their cause, and from the general feeling manifested throughout the County, we have no doubt that those exertions will ultimately place the Son in that situation. which the Father so ably, honor ably, and satisfactorily filled in five successive , Parliaments. We have the honour to be, Gentlemen, with great respect, Your very faithful and obedient servants, JAS. JOHN F ARQUHARSON. JOHN CA LCRAFT. Dorchester, 15th February, 1523. The Election will commence on Wednesday, the 26th in stant. M ill.fi. •RR. DUB. •wR. I Du hit@ - 0 0 Holland • O Waterford I 0 Ilanibro' I G. ilt Jersey • 0 0 Frunze - O Lisbon 2 0 Flanders - O Gotten t•nrg - 2 0 Brazil DUB. • r 0 PRICE OF STOCKS TIIIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK., Bank Stock . 2341 hulls Stork . 8 per Ct. Red.. .. .. 743 I Ditto Bonds .. 9(is 19a. pm 3 per Ct. Cons ......731P2 I South Sea Stock 31 per Ct SIM South Sea Old Ann... a per Cents . .... 911 934 , Er.8i11.241. j s 12s 14s m. New Pours ..... ...93i1 931 I 100(11. 8 per Ct. 1797 I --mot. a ilta.ll4spia. Long Ann 1 9 71 i 1 Small a 11104 ph imp. 3 per Ct.. .. .. 731 ; Coo.roe sect Irish 6 per Ceuta — . I LottaryTlekets lll. 10E Mut *tatrniman. andpetitions, complaints, on the part of the Landlords{ that the land bears all, or the greater part of the ex-1 pence. of criminal prosecutions, and that the feud holders ought to pay their share of these. Now, a very large part of these expeuces arise from prosecutions re lative to the DAME. Look at the County Calendars at the Sessions; and you will find, that the whole of the people. are taxed, and heavily taxed, to pay the ex pences of preserving game from poachers, which game it is a crime in ninety-nine hundredths of the people to touch, or to smell to! More of this another time; hut, here is enough to warn landlords against talking too loudly about their bearing the expences of crimi nal justice CATHOLIC QUESTION.----We MT sick at the very sound of these words. There was to have been a dis cussion about the thing, to morrow night; but last night it was put off until the 17th of April. Sir JOHN NEWPORT wanted the question to be eal»dyinvestigated, and to be thoroughly understood. If we do not under stand this question, then do we not understand any thing, and never can understand any thing. It has been, in one shape or another, under discussion for the last three-and twenty years. We know as much about it as we ever can know about it, and, therefore, why the thing should be put off, or why there should be any discussion at all about the mat ter, it is pretty difficult for any man to say.-- There was, however, another reason given for putting off the discussion ; namely, the present state of Ire land; by which was meant, the present state of hostile feeling arising from the recent occurrences in Dublin. Sir J. STEWART took occasion to observe, that " the " late law proceedings in that country had created a " great sensation." Mr. PLVNKETT observed upon this, that it was not for him to bring that matter be fore the House; but that he would say, " that that " affair had fallen into the hands of a person who " would do it justice."—ln article which we insert below, from the Courier newspaper, will tend to show the sort of harmony which exists amongst the Minis ters upon this subject. That article must be dis avowed; nay, the conduct of the publisher must be animadverted upon by persons in power here ; or it seems to be impossible that Lord Wellesley can remain where be is. The Morning Chronicle of to-day ex presses its opinions that the LORD CHANCELLOR of Ire land will be removed, instead of Loan WELLESLEY. We believe no such a thing. However, something must be dune soon ; for things cannot remain in this .:ate. VESTED I N TERESTS.--There is a good remark in the Morning Chronicle of to-day on a speech of Mr. BAG witt.t., last night, on the reduction which is about to take place on the Militia Staff in Ireland. It appears that Mr. Bscivat.t. said, that it was a breach of faith with the parties ; that they looked upon it, that the eAtablishment was permanent ; and he further said that the intended reduction would reduce a great many fa milies to a state of misery and destitution. His argu ment was, that the thing had been created by Art of Parliament ; and that it, therefore, ought to be held sacred. The Chronicle very justly compares this to the arguments made use of in support of the untouch able nature of the property of the Church ; but this is what we have constantly observed ; that the having received Public money is taken to be a complete proof of a right to continue to receive it. We are glad, however, that the Ministers do not, in this case, appear to be influenced by this argument, and that they are about to send the said families to get their bread by labour. latau Tmiss...—Mr. 001:LBURS, the Secretary for Ireland, gave notice that he should, on Thorxday the 6th of March, submit to the House a proposition with respect to the COMMUTATION OF IRISH TITHES ! Bravo! this is the first clear and distinct declaration on the part of the Ministers, that the Par liament, on behalf of the people, has a clear right to do with the Tithes, and with all other Church pro perty that which it pleases. Let it be observed, that something must be taken away from the Church by this measure, or else the measure produces no good. PARLIAMENTARY COMMENTARY. TN TILE Loans.—Only mere matters of form. IN THE COMMONS..•SMALL DERTS......OR a motion of Lord ALTHORPE relative to the mode of recovering small debts, Mr. LITTLETON observe;., that, consider ing the quantity °lousiness Justices of Peace had to perform, he did nut think, that an addition ought to be made to their toils by throwing the adminis tration of this part of the law upon them.— s said, that gentlemen of " weight and station" *onld not take the office ; and that it would fall into the hands of trades.nen and others, less quali fied. It was not a company of trades►nen, who passed Bill and the Marriage Act : they were passed by men of " Weight aid station." But, as to the tr,il.• :" are not a very great part of the present " toils" created by the Game prcurvers. ? More than three-fourths of them, we believe. And, now that we think of it, we have tzeen, iu many of the resolutions _4 4ia . I •~1,..~ MARQUESS IVELLESLEY. We have all along said, that the Orangemen would beat the Marquess. Let our readers look at the fol lowing pretty little lesson, which is read to the noble personage by Daniel Stuart's paper of the night be fore last; that is to say, the COURIER! If the Marquess's friends talk thus of his conduct, nothing short of his last year's eulogist, Anaeharsis Cook', can save him from his foes. It is, to be sure, either brother Dan, the Taylor, or Barber Mudford, that talks thus : aye! but, they do not utter their own words! They are merely the organs, or (as SWIFT has it in the " Mechanical operation of the Spirit,") the vessels, or funnels, through which OTHERS send the sound of their voices ! Those OTHERS know well what they mean ; and, we think, that it is pretty clear, that they mean, that the Marquess is to come to England again. Yet, how is this to be, and the Grenvilles keep their places ? Or, is there about to be a general tumbling to pieces of Ministers and of every thing else ? We have, from time to time, ob-' served, that we thought the Marquess's, and more es pecially Mr. Planket's measures ill-advised ; but, we cannot insert the following paragraph from the Cou rier without expressing our abhorrence of the perfidy of it. This is a betraying, and a sacrificing of the Marquess. If this be not disavowed, we shall think the parties, with whom it certainly originated, ex tremely base as well as malignant. But, at any rate, if this be to be the language of the London Cou rier, the Marquess cannot remain in Ireland. We copy the paragraph word for word : " The conduct of the Marquis of Wannesasv is, of course, .• praised by The Morning Chronicle; but it excites much " surprise and *wariness among the best friends of Go. " %Transmit, especially as the Opposition Papers ingnuate " that the Marquis is supported with (he King by an influ " exec distinct tunes that of the Cabinet. Twice have •6 juries acquitted the parties accused of the riot at the Thes " tie, yet the Law Officer of the Government, with the spirit " of a Papist, announcer a third prosecution. The 111/0/1. tiun is one between Papist and Protestant, just as if it 6. were one here in England between Whig and Tory ; and " what would be said by the Whigs, if a prosecution were ••renewed, and renewed against them until a jury could be " (tread, or packed, as they would say, to give a verdict " against them I The Papist spirit is carried further, that " spirit so execrated by the Liberals as bigotry In Spain, " se excused and protected by them In Ireland! Sir DwArrnes %reason and two other 0111cers about Dublin " Castle have been dismissed for being present at the Beef " Steak Club when ' the Exports from Ireland" was given .6 as a toast, by which was meant, no doubt. en expression "wf a desirefor a new Lord Lieutenant. This is an eat leg over at second hand of the dismissal of the late Duke o wit's just of drea ju•t as near a resemblance Nu nce R s ." arthere is in the Joe Miller story of the slip of " the tongue and the shoulder of mutton. Sir Casket's " VannoN is the Master of dm Ceremonies at Dublik " tie, and has held diet office nearly half a century. Il e is "remarkable for his amenity of manners, his kindness of " disposttlen. his social and cheerful virtues, hut the least " remarkable of any man in Ireland, perhaps, fu r " his politics. His whole character is one opposed in " every circumstance, to that of a political character. It is " to break o butterfly upon a wheel, to dismiss hi a ; and "the measure has probably been advised by some sly " Orangeman .to bring the Marquis into disgrace with all " parties; for there is not a man lu Ireland so generally " known, and so generally beloved as Sir CitanLes Vas " Non. He never Aad an enemy until the Marquis arrived. " And the Viceroy, mita Asiatic despotism. has not only " dismissed Sir CHARLES, but has appointed a successor. " The Marquis was sent to conciliate all parties I To con " ciliate!! ! Truly, we might suppose Ike had taken " father confessor and sole adviserfrom among the rank es t " of :he Papists in the province qf kunster." ASTONISHING PERVERSENESS, The Morning Chronicle of to-day repeats, fur the thousandth time, or thereabouts, its old assertion, that the landed interest will soon receive relief from the pr , sperity of other classes. This is the delusion of the day. It is intended to wheedle the landlords along. Because salt-petre has risen in price ; because cotton has advanced ; because hemp has risen, and also tobacco ; because of these things, the Chronicle has discovered that the Mortgagee will stop fro►t taking the Mortgagor's estate fur half what he ought to take it for. In short, such perverseness was never witnessed before. It appears, however, to be the last shot in the locker of deception. WEBB HALL ; ciao with his four and a half per cent. ; over-pro duction with all its nonsense, have been driven into the shades long ago ; and now this new delusion is conjured up. If it succeed it will only make the ca tastrophe the more dreadful. THE LEADER OF THE BLIND. Under this title, Mr. COBBETT means, in his next Register, to state, once more, the proofs of the in.- evitably fatal consequences, unless there he, and speedily too, an Adjustment of Contracts, publie and private. This essay will be addressed to Mr. CAN NING, who has, in his place in parliament, confesses, that the Ministers do not see their way clearly to any measure for giving direct relief to the land. if they cannot themselves see their way, it is proper that they should be led. STOCK EXCHANGE, MALI PAST TWIRL'S O'CLOCK.- The opinions of the people here a ill remain dkide.', in regard to the petition of peace or ear, between France and Z;pain. The tnaority are led to believe by the gra- dual rise of the French Funds and their procrastination in crossing of the Pyrenees, that some accommodation will )et take place ; but others affirm that the prices of the French Funds are the mancenvres of the French Ministry, until they have obtained their new Loan. The Expresses from Paris this morning, brought the Funt:s from Paris at 79. 25., and Span;sh 38;. Consols oFened this morning at 73w, at which price they are eta ionary. A house in the City of some magnitude in foreign a m• mere,e, failed yesterday,it is said to a considerable arson t. A Hebrew house at Frankfort, else, of great note in the diamond line, which has been apeculating largely in the Funds, to the amount of a million of florins, has stopped payment. - There is but little doing in Consols this morn'uz, as most of the parties are puzzled how to act at this cr:- tient juncture; speculations in the funds bring nsw a very despera'e game. FOREIGN Ferius.—The Spanish Bonds have rather improved this morning. In the earlier part they wire Ilene at 321, but afterwards improved to owing it is supposed, to their cowing higher from Paris. The accounts from Paris still continue of a very warlike de- acription. Chili, 70—New Spanish, —New Prussia. 744—01 d, N—Russia, 7l—Danish, 7Sh to 79—Colombian. 491 to 60—New Spanish Scrip, SSA. Paris papers of Sunday have been received. It is stated, in an extract from a Marseilles Journal, that a strong French squadron has arrived off Minaret., to collect and convoy the merchantmen destined for the Mediterranean. The Pope's Nuncio, who hid been sent away from Madrid, in consequence of the refusal of his Holiness, to receive the new Spanish Minister who had been accredited to Rome,arrived at Bayonne on the 7th, but not without experiencing some molestation on his journey. The Secretary of the Austrian Legation that was at Madrid, as Charge d'Affaires of the Anseatic towns has been recalled. The only principal Ministers-re maining at Madrid are those of England, Portugal, and the United States. The assertion that a Meeting of the Russian, Prussian, and Austrian Ambassadors bad taken place at M. de Chateaubriand's, with Comte Lagarde,has been contradicted by several journals, with an carers . - ness which indicates the importance they attach to the circumstance. The Journal des Debais, however, ad mita that on Friday, Count Pozzo di Borgo had a lung conference with the Count de Lagarde; and on thnsday despatched an extraordinary courier to Petersburg. In the Chamber of Deputies on Saturday there were two discussions of some warmth and length, but of Wink else than local interest. The one was on the establish ment of Schools of Medicine, and the other on the aC.i mission of M. de Marchangy. M. de Marchangy had, by his zeal as paltilic accuser in the late prosecution', gained favour on this one side and odium on the other, and therefore his case excited much bickering and som a coarseness, as are usual no such occasions in this asset -, lily. He bad been returned by two Departments: beg it appeared he bad not paid,for either,direet taxes to the,, requisite amount, and was on that ground declared it.. admissible. By Bermuda papers to the sth of January, we have re ceived an account from the Martinique Gazette of II result of the trial, at St. Pierre, of sixtrfonr slaves taken in the late revolt on that isla - 4, in which five white and two coluured persons were killed, and many robberies cammitted, six.: S to have their right hands cut oft beltea4ed, and their bodies thrown away; 14 hanged, and their bodies exposed, and thrown away ; 10 Dogged, branded, and transported for life to Frane.!; 8 whipped, £9 lashes, and 9 to assist in the execution ; 14 sevitiels .._ : . ~_,t .