The National Register. — London, England, 1819-12-06 00:00:00

Itloper.4l P•rlistmeNt anainafred /rem pegs 597.) mpprtant que s tions before the House; and whatever might lie hi, anxiety un the subject, he felt that the call wadi have inounvemeneed Nleusbeni at a distance, %Mame insuring a much fuller attenthuwe. . ; file - uwitipn tor- the call am. accotorngly abaudonal. stTITLY. fto the morion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that the lure rewire reef tutu a Committee of Supply. Mr. IittOUGHA3I rose to ()mast it. Cli A 14CEL LOR of the 1....XC EQUER omid the question of Stamps was not brought forward now. Mn BROUGIIA NI said, he must still urge his opposition.— It was the constitutional course on a question of Supply to usge the sub:teet of grievance ; teal lie therttfore complained of the highly indecorous and indecent haste with which it sat, endea. youth' a press diose important measures which the Mini-ten now proposed for adoption. The ',topic ought to have time to snake their fCetings rid sentiments known in that Ilouse. In I'M, violent as wise the measures of that period of t, he be hests; three weeks, was allowed; but now not even two days would be &Cowed to the people to consider those IIItILAIITS which were not . only to suspend but to overturn the Constitution. If they were on oral of it five Constitution, that it tutor be suspended without delay, then naked %mulct it be usek ss for Members to attend their emus with any vcry anxious desire to watch the procetdingsof the ilinisters,—Nation agreed te. The lltiuse being in a Committee. Sire. WAHRENDER moved, that 23,000 men he granted Au , seamen, including B.ono nirrines, there being an addition to thisdlariniN which soul(' release as, many ia the army hunt punier in toe dock "aids. Mr. J. P. GRAN observed, that .if there were to be an ad dition olo,iihir marines, and thereby relea:t 2,ufx) of the army t.orts the duck yarn ditty. that change would he RV actual increase of the a, my ; and why was nut suciiincrwm of the runty put in ouch form Mr. I'IERNEY renyttired, that the Marjr.e puree was the MOM natural tin the protection of the Dock Yards, but if there were out to be a corresponding diminution of the Army, the increase of the A 'my would be 11,000 instead 4410,000. Mr, CHOKER suited, that by the regulations there would be tut therense unty of about 1,200 Alarilw, . . Atution azre . ed to. Sir Nlll'.ll then moved Grants of 630.000/. for itri sg e. sof thy batmen ; 612,500/. for the Victualling of that 'winner of men ; and titit.mati. for %eor and tear. . r. UAM complained (deli:awes that had been made in the erode minoring the Grants, and contended that it was tut aufficitet to say that they had received the approbation of the ',raper department. Mr G. WA It BENDER observed, that they had received the the approval of the department which understood these memos better titan Minkel( ; and that he would therefore not presume Acs enter into details where he was not so conversant a%others. Mr. BARING could nor but feel that if , any weather of the Government stepped forward to promote an augmentation, that he ought to be prepared to show why it was wanted. (Hear.) Grans agreed to, as was that for 1n4,6901. for Ordnance.-- Deport to-morrow. NSWSPAPEIt STAMP DITTIES. The llouse resolved itsehl into a Committee on the Newspaper Stamp Acts, when The CHANCELLOR of thc EXCHECWER rose. He said he should not now go to any length in detailing the business, as Vie present was decrial by lama preparatory prooseding, but it was 11111t1 hat that there had been a very considerable evasion of toe Newspaper Stamp Duty in public. ionscontaining comments and wtricn want greatly to supersede . newspapers. .He can chided. with moving as a resolution, that all newspaper should be imposed on all publications containing comments or remarks on matters concerning church or state, nut exceeding two sheets, win sold ter a low sum than sixpence ; that they ebtruld.be taken to be newspapera. Mr. BROUGHAM denied that there had been evasion or etand : toot the.Aet extended only to sheets containing 6. News, vaeraiXrhsrs er occurrences;" and that pamphlets containing comments were expressly omitted by Cu- h Act. He ai-o conten. ticd that the mesaute now proposed would not have the desired Ethel; that the Governnint had been culpably neglectful of norwung to dia means placed in their hands; and that the Alirusters woad Rod that they must at last resort to the laws.— He also again urged the necessity of delay, to enable the people linglandto consider, pethaps for the last time of punning sucu course, the propriety of such measures. Agreed to alter sonic explanatory remarks between Lord Cilatiereagli; Mr. Brougham. Mr. J. P. Grant, etc.—Adjourned TIIUKSUA Y. UCC. Mr. IMOGULN presented report of the Committee of Supply. winch Tli I. sx DI I'IOUS l'lt The Repot of the Stamp Duties Act Committee WRS pre heated, Pend, itiM agreed to, and a Bill ordered aecitcdingl). " to restrain the Abuses arising from the Publication ur iSliOpheepoUs ink" Seditious Libels." The Law ("Sleets of She CroU u and others were ordered to prepare and bring in the raise. MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS. Mr. BF,N .I•.f gave wilier, thritu; in;;(l.iy. the Dth in.t. he million a Uutioa to the Howe no the State of Otte hlittitif-icluting Dibirtch, pltrticillai I) in the County of Luttea,ter. Arr. MAXWELL prec•nted n pelitioo from a body of people or-Newland, pr.syitig to he ncrommoddied w :th the of lotigrotios to Court.tu, or else% Isere. Ordered to be tot the t.tb;e. NEDITIOUS NICETINGS' BILL. The SOLU.:II 101 i irk,' P.KAL rose io tnove the second frmUuK of the Seditious ilertioA.' Itdl. The indisposition Of his Learned Cut e.i4ue bud ainpii-ed on hint this duty. lie felt concerned tn.': bon able I.rutlrluru opposite ahuuld apt undicrolue lb.- difficulties of the pt. lent period ; but nut poly wiera Revolutiois on the point of breaking out, to adopt Iniii.uage uf.he papers laid before the Home, in 1. - mei...hot c. Intl n very bllnlhig spit it existed in other (Inmost... in Ihf .tsurth of 1. 1 ,1%i1in . 41, and cat the Western nod pupulo..s part o brostai.d. The sour.t can. onst.tutional doctrine. h ere Fent font fiaie the Memel-tin tilers in Laiwieliire, as eel! a. In vare. of.puliLcal debtets ; and they 6 ent further, for they pin sued a seat' iuLisuidation, and preached the doctrine of assanninition—(lleitr, hear). 'l' ney clear y yielded out taaritestier individuals, and hiked 6115118er there was n.o NO b.e Brutes ira.ly to sop forisard fa' she betwlit of the maim y. The nest prustslusis kid not affect those jai -1)0ItaIlt erillwar4s of the ty of the Subject, the To tat Loy juiyiittnt the Firedutis of the Pie.... It established so preitton•eetc.c.rship—(ls.llll clicetsfinin the Opposition) pr.-vot e d evasion of the bump duty, and required .6 ,, ctility, that noise who scut f'or'th ..hould (.r pteparrd to Le apsitet mole WI their puultention.. A. to the ritacttoa ef tripitwoo 1 , 11) for it was only mu dc eurd.isier atilt the praence of Vie law in oilier ease.. I • huisetri, 4. CI. ch•rard MI the law °flier's. that sCry lad uceu onoine in toe Foss canine of burls I tint is. lilt. (hese was nu ItuUh, er.repi in very tow te•iances. Ile owned 1461 there h,.d nerapeetedly blow forth turn • flood anal torrent trout liar chug, and seditious plies, .0104 MST felt it seat to as tapas:Ability to check it b) THE NATIONAL REGISTER., the laws as they now *tool, Ile knew not, he confessed, how all this difficulty had arisen; he only saw that sorb. wait the feet. It hail, lie feared, reunited from the acquit• ral of Mr Hone, for hlas e hemuna libel., texpectiog the mitirmi.y of which few differed in opinion (hear, heat, iron* the Oiipmitiou)— at quittalti, too, that weir followed by the rew nod. or public. 1.1)III.1.1 iplio.l. ; %Well 1..5.1 raised the individual firum humble via rllllll.illtICOS to a smog ior 'lunation in al , . With respect to olor Hill 110 W mule im mediately be fore the House ; ill 011jtet was not to inter free *idolise public right 10 meet, taut to ',tricot tumid. luaus, alai mi sag, and seditious meetings. Nothing but the eimeial application of the Lill would inert the exigency of alie es', ; and he COlllll not but express the Lope that the Bill would have the suppout even of many of the ho 00000rabb members 01.1.0.itC• Mr. Ll T 1 LETO.N rap, closed his approbation of !lir Bill, emitending, that it was emitintial to the atom!, of the Como's:akin, and to put down Rebels . and Traitot Mr. COKE adverting to what had been said about the five • magistrates, who might be found as consenting to calla meeting, he said it was a possibility. but not one very likely to happen (a laugh)... Surely this should put them a little on their guard. at least, in considering such a measute as this. The untidy of Norfolk. he was 'only to say, had wit:teased more contested elections, perhaps, than any other—(a laugh), The cossequenee • the excitement of an angry party spirit throughout all classes, and the lord lieutenant ot that county not being on the I °pular side of the question, exercised his lancer in the nest un:antlemanly mariner—(Lond cries of hear, hear, end order). lie begged leave to cull the attention .of the House. while he stated dial this spirit was carried so high, that many gentlemen of consequence in the county, but of different prin ciples, were excluded from the commission of the peace. A friend of his wished bun to be put into the .commission, which his lands anti properly in the county levee cumin: end to entitle him to expect ; but when apt litutMn was male to hint, the lord lieutenant refused to put hint into the commiasion. He felt this to he a tire untstanee not worth noticing. Nur did he speak to him again; for Cod knows that lie never would ask any favour of that Lord Lieutenant ? (Cheers and laughter.) What, then, did he do? lle did not apply to the Lord Lieutenant of the county ot Norfolk ; not he, indeed : but he went to tie Load Chancebor, (Curd Eldon) and repeated I to him. personally, dint which had taken place in Nortiilk. And what did the Chancellor do? Why, just what he expected lie would —lie expreee,d himself in the most handsome manner, and said, —6- It is not in the breast of the Lord Lieutenant. Sir to exclude gentlemen Irvin being put into the commission of the peace, lint in that of the Lord Chancellor. The names you have given to rite, Mr.. Coke, are proper and fit fing names, and I will take care to put theist in." He proceeded to show, that the effect of the proposed bill would lie to render the magistracy more directly subser vient to the ministers of the Crown—a system they were getting more and more into day by day. He had always °puttied it, and should still resist it till death. The lion. gent. concluded by expo essing his total theeent from the principle., extent, and lie, matient operation of the hill. [An excessively lone , debate ensued. and we re g ret that the limas tea weekly 'Nenspaper preclude the possibility of our giving even an initiate of the ueequalled and wonderful display of eloquence exhibited by Mr. J. Illeedeenuld and Mr. Brougham dui in; the discussion 1 After loch WOlt L 1101' SE said hr begged ...aye to put a quell him to his Honourable colleague te•pectiog the conduct of it Nobie trieied .of bur that had been alluded to by toe learned gentlemen. He begged to ask, w briber, wino after ' that Noble Lord's (Suffield's) becoming bid Lieutenant of She county of Norfolk, it had not been prop Abed try the Noble Lord to him (Mr. Coke) to give in a list of those gen tlemen whom he might think eh to be uonditated to the come mieeion of the peace soil whelitt r, un his nomination. they bad not been appointed. ( Cheers from the lei ial side. ) Mr. LUKE replied. that certainly soon after the Nome Lord's appointment to the Lord Lieutennuey, such u pro pos di hod been in ides and that accordingly a list was drawn up and presented lit the Noble Lord ; but that none ..f toe gentlest.. n named iu the list had been appointed. (Loud cheers firm the oppeisitieni). Ile (Mr. Coke), howev. r, applied to the Lori( Chancellor. who, after obtei wing Ina. he dal not think Mr. Coke would ttttttttttttt any prison whip was not fit for the rommiari ui, did appealed them all, with the exception of one llonourable friend of his, a member oi Ciat House. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and a division took place on.thes•-•coml reading— Poe it. 351.—Against it, 1,9 —Majority, 223. The Dill was then real a wcood time and ordered to be com mitted. Adjourned at three o'clock. CUMMI rree or SUPPLY. Upon the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Committee of Supply was postponed to Monday next. In answer to a question from Mr. Phillips,which we could not distinctly hear, the Chancellor of the Exchequer said, he should shortly call the attention of the House to the Du ties on Malt. WATS AND NICANS The CHANCELLtiR of the EXCHEQUER moved the House into a Committee of Ways and Means. Mr. Mt.:Neu.: begged to he informed by the Right lion. Gentleman, whether it was the intention of Government to modify the Act of last Session respecting tne equalization of Malt Duties in the Highland* of Scotland. The temptations to illicit distillation were so numerous, that serious injury might be apprehended to the Revenue, if the measure was continued. The CH ANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said,tlat several represeutaluns upon the subject had been made to him. The course be pursued was, to lay those representations before the ConowisNioners of Excise, and as soon as their opinion was made kn:iwc, the Must- should he put in pthsession of the deii:rminution with. respect to the Bill. The House then went into a Committee, in which the usual annual duties were voted —Report on Monday. C.0051S IMPORTED INTO IRELAND. Mr VE'F.Y FITZGERALD called the attention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to a subject which, he said, caused great anxiety, particularly in Ireland ; namely, the repeal of certain duties established by the Act of Union upon goods of British produce imported into Ireland. The tittiAl ion of that country WAS such, that it WAS important to ascertain whether those dunes were to be continued. Al ready the Right Hon Ge.itleman had made hurt acquainted with the views he at preseut entertained upon thel.ibject It would be extremely desirable mat the public should be made acquainted w th -itch intention CH.VNCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said. he was aware rd the importance of the mtbject wnich was now u ou..f the SeriousconsaderAtion or the freaaury. He was convolve that whatever might be the result of the enquiry the coirti o: the duties tor some time would he unavoidable lk was not aware how lung it might be found acceriary to ethitia • e .hew. DEC 6 Mr. V. FITZGERALD said, be had another question is pet to his Right Hon. Friend. When Parliament was about to separate at the close of last Session, some regulations with regard to the distilleries of Ireland were spoken si The state of suspense in which men in th it country posiesfid capital were kept in consequence of the delay, had it was apprehended, occasioned considerabl c defalcation is the re venue. (heat numbers were lacvented from embarking by their ignorance of the intention of Government. We understood the CHANCELLOR of the Excite qu ER, who spoke in a very low tone, to say that the ques tion should co ne before tire Hottse as quickly as possible. Mr PARNLLL wisi.ted to know wheilta the article of Union by which those dotteas were imposed would nu be vio lated by the continuance of them. he CHANCELLOR of tit , : EXCHEQUER said, the ditties could certainly be continued aster the ei 'station of the act. Parliament btad then the power to teconsder the whole. St DITIOUS lIILITINGS ■II.G ' Lord CASTLEREAGH. in moving that the Seditious Meeting, 13;11 should becommitted, sta.ed. t h at he had nu alierat . to propose in that stage of the bill. On the recommatml he should sate to the House the meditated changes Mr I'IERNEY asked whether it was the Noble Lords intention to make the measure a temporary one I ord CAs.T.LEREAGH declined answering the question, as a debate which could be of no possible advantage, might ensue. Mr lIERNEY said, the answer was the very thing that would prevent a debate at that moment It ill.l must anxi ously wished that the measure would not 'be made perms. cent. It that was the determination, it was a pruot of wrath ag .instthe people. _ _ I.urd CAA iI.EREAOH disclaimed having any feeling towards the people but that of doing them SC vice. Mr. I lERNEY hoped the Nonle Lord would propose on Monday that the measure should be temporary, and not permanent. Mr. LA ‘LBTON took the opportunity of alluding to • misrepresentation made in another place, with respect to the meeting of the inhabitants of the county lie represented (Durham) That statement had given a must erroneous im- . prescient with respect to the assembly. He w.s convinced that the Noble Lord, who spoke of it to such exaggerated terms, was informed that his authority was correct. bat from he many inquiries he (Mr. Larnbton) had made, be was con vinced there was a, ground for the declaration that 700 armed melt from the forges attended the Meeting. The re ply to his inquiries was, that nut one ran came armed, and a foreman to one of the mauufacturies from wh tit the armed men weresaid to have issued averted most posit iuely, that it wi,s impossittlethatarms could have been made there, for the metal of the proprietors was weighed out regularly. and the workmen were in too great a state of porerty to purchase iron themselves. He denied that tbete was any disaffection existing in Durham. The people were firmly attached to Reform, but he by no means Leheeed them to be indisposed to the Government of the country. Sir M. W. RIDLEY, said, he was requested by the In hab.tants ,it Newcastle to deny that they had tumultuously assembled. The greater number of those who attended the Meeting of the lultabitants felt disappointed when the ora tors were observed. The Meeting not only 'assembled, but dispersed in the moat peaceable manner, and the number did not exceed 7000. The Hon. °net then read a letter from the Secretary of a Society in Newcastle, defying a proof tat tumult or disaffection, and declaring that those suspected of Sedition were only anxious tor Reform. Lord CAS I'LicREAGH, in answer to the observations of Mr. Landston, said, that the evidence that '71.1. men lad not gone armed, where there were 40.000, could be 01 little ef fect. • The House then went into a Committee the report vas received, and t he Bill was ordered to be :e•cumninted on Monday nest. Lord CAS ITEREACH then brought in the LIBEL BILL, and ~, sett that it bhoulcl be read a tint time. Mr. LiktWIGI - lAM Laid, this Bill was part of, a syotetu to abridge the liberty of the press. He must therefore enter his most decided protest against it ; but be should nut at this moment enter upon the subject. The Bid was then reaal a first. apd ordered to be read a M. coed tints on Thursday, and printed. Adjuurnsd to Monday. thin the last seven or eight days, the vicissitudes of the weather have been reitiarkablL 0.1 in the last week, at 8 o'clock in the morning, the ther mometor had stink seven degrees below the freezing point ; On Motiday,..at the saute Moir, it stood at fifty, and by two oclock that day, it huh tisen to fifty-three; and, on Tuesday at ten o'clock, it attained the mean temper.tture of the whole year ; or fifty-iivr.• Extract of a letter 1111111 litiellUS A rs. dated August :—" General San Alartin has heel; called over here by the Governmelit, in order to take the command of the alloy against Coy expetlihmt that nor: arrive. lie will teach ink in liiur days, and tit the mean time wa are si raiimig every nerve to have our preparations ready. ane 'dace the country in a situ soon manfully to rrpcl .he last efforts of Spanish hoitilite, or per:sli in the attempt. Tots is the avowed determination of every individual here, front the highest to the lowest. So far every movement of the Portage-e appears to directed to oppo..e the Spaniard., and we have certain acconty+ that grey are Mrtifyiug Santa Catalina, att.l Ric Grande. The same is taking place with Montevideo. which, it appear-, has been cireintivalated with a ditch. The artily of Peru is in cantonments in the neighbour hood of Cordova. In the province of Glyn, General San Martin has assembled a dwitiun of 3,00') men, with IR pieces of caution, intended to ado to the general defelice, if not wanted, he will lead thein against Luna.•" Extract of a letter dated Manchester, Dec. 2:— "I have just heard that Walker and Knight have this morning been arrested on a warrant of Colonel Hargreaves, lot active magistrate residing near Burnley. and the charge against them is murcrstood to he high treasn, committed in the part they took at the meeting held at Ilahergliniu Eaves on the 15th ult., when a barge part of the persons assem bled went armed, as is shown in one of the last 91 6 the papers laid before Parliament."