The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-12-06 00:00:00

E ;,~ .~: s fa 'tt . 111 ti • . C • Ii i . a :. rn - 1;1 u To' it 11 • • n It 01 • i! • d Y. - ' tI a r, ' li • tI a CO C . *I • • . 1 • r C t 9 t • 1 r. • 1 • • 1 • .• a . • I • • -1 • . . . •• • . • • 4 . • • / ,;= - - THE AGRICUGTURAL, QUESTION. !VICO! THY NOILWICII feeiteree, inc. I.] Oar attention is alesost wore or less engaged upon theistariogs of the Agticuiturel Question; because it is not only of the most vital importance to the Country, itinto#FH6i - Td - ' Most =kilo Tilirissial inisiiierazne lefts* *I mw;Coonity,lorelkr, Mr. Edmond iVode honee.l.contirsiing our possins .1811401elic seed a put isiskh we Give MO - build that. Ministers haiel I determined so *far to wereedse proposition of the Agri-i cliturists as le ley s Mire twenty shillings per quer ? on ferelAit cereiniiiirmed, to reduce the rate :it which importation if immiltesil to seventy shillings per /tarter:for wheat, • alai to form a proportional' scale ler ether Orb of Okla shbuld seem to demand a few remeeks usitigilidiately: • With respect to the stitrattion of grain from arid 'tattoo, we were.lout sincirperfectly apprized of all the eircousetinces, .probably before Mr. Wodchouse could have beard of theist. and from what we have sioce learned there is untiorstionably ground for sup posing that similar expedients bare already beeu re spited to is other places, in London especially, to re -11107i or exchange foreign corn and to get it into the 'market. We'recomroend a survey, and we venture to enforce our recommendiatinn; because the fact most • important to the agricultural case is, to ascertain how fa the domestic sppply is 'equal to the demand. All the rut hinges ppon that point. If the home growth )ei equal to the demand, It is trite cleat that ex po rta tis.: :oust take place and that- prices must fall to the Catainental level, because no 'mai will export till he Can obtain no higher -price at boom than he can ~ isrped. If on the contrary, importation be Indispen. Bible, as • tLe law now stands, peke' must be kept at continual and ' great fluctuation. Scarcity mast be actually produced before wheat can be got .;) to eighty shillings, 'the importation rate ; the umsent the ports open, the warehouses would be , r.clos4d. and such an influx of corn would take place, I that prices would fall instantly and for a considerable period loan indefinite amount. Nothing can be so in jurious as such a state of things to the community.— No‘v then. since it is sufficiently proved, we think, that i'.e two points of supply and demand are at least'very near each other, it is, we contend, extremely momeu -10(111 to ascertain whether, subsequently to the closing of the ports, notch of the foreign wheat placed under lode has found its way to the market surreptitiously. The tiovernment owes to the country as much certain it.formation--or many facts —as it lies within its in fluence to procure. The appointment of an officer of e'. - enue to survey the different depots, wheV-Is not only acquainted with the usages of Vie Custoni•houses in respect of foreign grain under lock, but who is also a j udge of the difference between corn of Foreign and . Eng liils growth competent to determine whether any substi-. talon of the one for the other has been effected in any wareheue. would be of essential service in the en q u iry so morniutons to the agriculture and commerce of the country. As Mr. Wodehouse has'already comtutini- 1 cate4 with Me President of the Bottrit of Teade upon the subject, we invite his especial attention to our red boning, and we are quite sure that gentleman will net refuse hit'iid towards effecting apurpose so desireable t r his constituents, should he deem it of any furce.-- We 'insist strongly upon the measure, because long and deep' consideration leads us to know that' facts with relation to the growth and supply are all that is nor necessary to a complete understanding of the course most judiciously to be pursued with regard to legislation upon this most vitally momentous (python. Wo entertain great doubts concerning the truth of the rumour that assigns to Ministers the intention of laying such a..duty as we have ab.•ve-stated upon im ported coa:, although it is circulated in high quarters. The administiation no doubt would gladly conciliate the landed interest, upon whom it was plain by the proceedings in Parliament at the end of last Session, th -y could not place the absolute reliance for support ttey hoped and imagined. But to legislating ;n their behalf there are insuperable difficulties, which indeed are stated in the report of the Committee, though s )(trued down by the fallacies introduction of vision ary possibilities. • These however give support to the rumour, because the ,provisions which are stated to be is contemplation, go precisely to the maintenance of such of its doctrines. as we conceive to have been in troduced purely for the sake• of gulling the tenant a Hale longer, ani of giving a temporary hope to the landlord. Of such a nature we have before shewn, and will again sbew the proposed duty to be. The price of wheat in this country. supposing such a lair • to be made. will of course amount to the cost of the grain abroad. the expense of transit. and the duty added together. The average.of the two tint is about 37 shillings, and if 20 shillings tax be imposed, ol course the price will be about 57— ! with perhaps a six pence or *billing •per quarter for the merchant's profit. list should the world remain at poseigt it is probable the prigs footle 1n America and onl the 'Continent will fall from the acknowledged superabundance of the sup ply. A law impoiiog such a duty would then only servo to ix the enrage about where it now stands.— This is so plaits, that the agricultural interest will in a moment seise upon the truth, and consequently Mi nisters can gain nothing by the concession. if such. they deem the measure . . For ~selves' we consider the question to be already decided. and we sincerely believe any attempt to • raise the-price will be abortive, and every endeavour t. persuade .the Agriculturalist that he has any chance bat by reducing his expenses, to be a gross • fallacy palmed upon him for interested purposes. . • (ICON THE NORWICIIII MERCURY. NOV. 24.) We have last remitted the following Letter from oar wor thy Canty amber;M krelates to the abstraction of Wheat • .dsosa soder the Rift'ti leek, which we were the first to bring wife thrl peblie., la a Postscript. a few weeks ago.-.-t We Ana ineinsmodied. sad we are persuaded it would be weld feu the Aem Ida. if I general survey of the wateheases a der do lest was inititated • .re THE same of vu smawtot MFACCIT. Saa—[a oat of per Papers of this month, there was as allusive nedele a head that was supposed to have been' - oneiniteed co the emit of Yeashite. • respecting beaded Cora. Thrsone roped tad previously reined we from ea.' other ocestft.• midi ogled to illy t Robinson for laterals. sin.. 'The Oast, as stated. is prretil_ It was ' oensloletti • sealed se the part of the CAMP of anion. Awe dies netergor to have bile lay oeitsiVaaes Mud. NU gag heelless *firpig4lll, sod noteares takes. 'Arel. it labgte& will guartra.dost a rennin* of such graetins. ' • • 64 I eat. Sr. per obedient Servant. • RDITUND WODRUOUSIL" tier . s great. done into tio - trutbitof .sies that. a further depressioa is moch more ble than a further rise. The -supply of .English grain where records are kept, is unprecedented ; greatTi — exceida both the Foreign and English average in ehe putt of roadon even during the year . 'o6-terge importation. INN. It is indeed apparent that it exceeds by the twb thirds of the gross total the English supply during the period we speak of.— This could not happen' were it not that the stocks in hand are vast beyond all for;;ietiltleperience.— A few months or even weeks will did& the ques don, but we entertain no doubt that the supply very nearly touch's the average demand, and in; abundant seasons exceed it. Nevertheless in 'sere of failure recourse must probably be -had to logo"-, cation. And this condition it is that ensures either; great fluctuation under an exclusive systrms or al price somewhat above the continental level seder' the open admission of groin subject to any conceiv able duty that the country would hear. At all erentes l it is most important to ascertain the leading facts of the relation of demand and supply, and this end would certainly be. promoted by the .investigation of watehostses we recommended. f. • MIMICO. Letters dated .the 28th of October were received yes terday from Havannah. They state, that on the 29th of Sept., Iturbide, the leader of the army of the Three Guarantee., and General O'Donoju, became masters of the city of Mexico without resistance, either from the Chiefs, the corporations, or the select part of the lithe hitants, who all decided for independence. Davilla, the Governor of Vera Cruz, had thrown a strong force into the fortress of St. John de 1.7110 a, which commandr the city, but *with this exception the whole of Mexico is said to have fallen into the power of iturbide and O'Donoju. Sone• obscuritt hangs over the present proceedings and ultimate vietvd of those Chiefs, which, at this- distance from the scene of action, and with our seinty means of information, we cannot pretend to ' Bisvel. The conduct of O'Donoju seems ex• tretnely suspicious, and by entering Into a treaty with Itnrbide, be has communicated a full portion of the tny story to the latter. Ile leaves Madrid, and passes the Atlantic to govern Mexico in the name of Spain ; and he no sooner arrives than be renounces his allegiance to Spain, and declares Mexico inde pendent. Instead of joining the party that seemed favourable to the views of the mother country, he treats with the chief of the Insnrgents, and proceeds to the capital of the colony at the head of troops which his commission from Ferdinand, it might 6e supposed, authorized him to repel, and if possible sub due. Triumphantly established in Mexico by the side of the prime mover of the late revolution, and the author of the " Three Guarantees," he is employed in organising a force to reduce the petielhhist ferirmilest which still held out for the mother-country, which he came to represent. Such are the facts ; and specs lation busies itself in vain to find a key for esplainlag them, or reconciling their apparent inconsisteocies.— By some, O'Donoju is thought finally to have re nounced the cause of Spain, when, arriving on the shores of America, he found that the dominion of the mother-country was for ever lost, and that leg left free to consult the advancement of his o for tune, he joined the party in which the most' pruspecte opened to his ambition. On this suyiroel don, his junction with Iturbide would be treachery to his Sovereign, Which the tenour and spirit of his first proclamation, on the 3'l of August, would vela jOs die. prove. The writer of a letter from the Havanntith hoi another hypothesis, which, however itnprobabletga i l be proper to state. To him O'Donoju still the friend of Ferdinand, and the supporter' ef the old system. lu joining iturbide be has,. therefore,. made a convert to his views, instead of changing them himself; and his entrance into the capital of Mexico is to be followed with the re-eatablisb meat .bf the - authority of the King of Spain, ho, in case of any disturbances at home, is to be • ited so take up his abode in his western domitiions As fa vouring this supposition, we are required ; remark, that O'Donojo's conduct has been cousiste.ut rem the a oment of landing, and therefore probably in coc'o roily with his instructions from home—that he I sa id or done nothing that bears any apparent host& Spain. Must of the facts stated, uu the contrary, tile con cert between O'Donoju and the King of Spa con cert into which the " liberating" tlenerae - as be Its called. may have entered for valuable considera tions. If the priests and the nobles of ,Mexico, as is alleged in some accounts, have joined he league, or submitted cordially to the views of the two Mob, the circumstance would confer some robatillity 90 au hypothesis, which we mast wait far ailibiotlitypotiste to refute or confirm . MEETING OF ATTORNEYS, PUBLIN. A Meeting of the Attoineys Was held on Satireley. in the Court of Common Pleas ; William Furlong, Esq. was called to the Chair. The business was principally respecOng an object which the profession has bad in view for some time, namely, to induce Barristers to select particular Courts to practice in, as is the customin Rolland. The. Meetin* was uncommonly numerous, and it was Resolved, with but a single dieeentitqt— " That the Lawyers who Will coliethithemseives to a Court, shall be supported, and that those Writes who will not agree to that regulitionehilF.tiot be supported." The present mode, as to.taiing law costs under the 'WO was discussed - its a Committee of Seven, a p pointed by the Meeting, wise are to report on Satu rday next, to which day the Meetint.adjeureed. During the discussion respecting the Barristers, its was mentioned, that several .suites* Lawyers approved of the regulation, as one which' would be of the greatest public bends. • - The Albion regalar.tradeestrisiod at Livetimsel, on Friday last (30th 1153) frail Now::Yoth. bringing .o. cositoi to the 10th bk. irhei:l•ll4e:ito fhb oessary hen preeijoge.Of frost .14 iitzt *kW mow feetoreei eatable for sjpi n toady ask% a fair advaaosr 7 (6!orlielesteiliemer4 , • DA* Its DA* Pik Imo* liadla II -, .. • *-1114 ek W l at' 1 South ea Wadi . 1 . • -11•ediSit OM 4aa. .; • tZ em sii. woo/ Is.plcdPar.. , .4.1-4 , ,1ient..10: Os. pia. par irpar Cost. - , --Matti di. 114. pm, par -1 ILia tilt 746 - *- '. rig ter due • • alip. 3 parrtgqii. - Cep. ter Ant, 711 sik. Mai per..vSt. • tett. Tickets 241. 14k infilß WAVES AT tompos-satnaa Tcsuoastpw. • Morning 0 m. attar 12.—Evening 25 min. after 12. •ebt Abtatt Sinn • -44 *US sartionp lITATIMIANt ' II INCOI STATIMAII." WITS Till 1 • • .. . . it witot tin 4 tit u p I u %wee 0 I OF 9 ?RI two. 100 thou, illt P r r a eollectedu 69084 out 7 = 61 general iessoniog to t • pirticular feet, sod it turns. il per cast:c,,s. l os t Ala IPS-100r0- 0 dtkikt_htoopposition. tbst . tkolalli Se pue,cos: -fM .',..-z-..-. sail lieiiiiiireitee - thao the rise. AU out euamuuk 1 .0 1) 400 ' Cael..ti... lions into t‘etrutiveof the easel lead se tie o convio- IPP .r tic' . 1 / 1 " 7 ' . r l eaf Cent. ~.. •LONDON. TIWIIIIIIItAT iltilflNG. DURUM 6. 1821. STOCK KICHANGK, TWELVE O'CLOCK. There is nothing stirring this morning on 'Change. Consols at this time are 78 buyers to 8 sellers. Very - few of our readers, we think, would peruse with much satisfaction the proposed Resolutions of the Agricultural Meeting as reported in our paper of, yesterday. The Farmers are now in reality beginning to move ; their murmurings have risen to Clamour, and a hubbub . is about to be created through-!tho collate*: by District Meetings, County Meetings, ,and Petitioned to Parliament. The Farmer calls aloud for protect , ing duties, remunerating prices and monopoly. Yet high prices begun, and high prices will work the ruin of the country. The effect of high prices was comparatively little felt by the labouring classes dur ing the war, when our manufacturers found a ready sale in foreign tnarke:i for their goods, and when foreigners were compelled to purchase them, because they could not provide themselves with . them at home. But who now can pay high priies ? Surely not the labourer with a shilling a day ; not the mechanic out of employment ; not the manufacturer without trade? Willhigh prices revive our commerce ; will they ena ble us to underseil.cour competitors in foreign mar kets ; will they 'redoes the poor-rates; will they lessen the number of paupers ; will they enable us to pay the interest of the national debt ? If they will not do these things, they will at all events enable the Gen tlemen Farmers to keep their hacks and their hunters, to send their daughters to boarding-school ; but high prices will. certainly hasten that crisis which prudence and managesuentalone can avert.. Who can ;Tad with *ndignation the selfish propositions offered to the consideration of the meeting at Lewes ? Wby is the landed interest to be protected to the utter destruc. Lion of more than three-fifths of the nation, of the melon of the inhabitants too to whom we are in debted for all thW"wealth and prosperity which this country ever enjoyed ? To our commercial interests ssut.-; alone pre owing our very name as a greet nation ; without commerce we should never have arrived at that pitch of pre-eminence which enabled - us to meet mad subtle* the combined efforts of all Europe in inns against u 5...-1-, Abut' wealth gave us power. but that wealth did oak *ice from the farmers; they then participated in the •.., . . 'prosperity of tb. ;knee. and now , they would exerts ileely be protecteilillee coloetetint of al . I 11 ,1! Shot' tidstaloed. Such wiseserts as Messrs. Rieman, was!. Wu., ike. would reduce all our mantifectureis and artisans tea state of pauperism. nod reader tbeir own kiateresis paramount to every other consideration. In Vitas wisdens they called , for a Cons Bill. and 'ram , they call for a direct tax which will • operate to *. entire exclusion of foreign grail. The. fanners Will. possess a monopoly. . and the poor people may starve. They have too seach r reason to hope than their its:: future will *wean. is Parliament. The •004•140 - 1 dui eadra ~ 0411 of the P "P er4 1 44:4111 we .. appeehoraks 11)1111II .. .; . ilftlAtit! al . ,„. : - a. di ' 1 Via 'it, Joists. iip-Otbe--to apiIifOINSONOI '' taiktifilik Ptia' 4. 11 0- 1 . 14 0 1 0'.4***. Lord It i ottaxox7 Akin on.. Mpf . . , ' emotive measure. High rents and large incomes !kr ford irresistable temptation, and but too often glee 1 as impulse where isterestested motives should Is prevail. Would we, it may be asked, consign tliet farmers to beggary and ruin ? Would we propose ' nothing to • help them out of their depressiira and wretelsedams ? We woold. tieeist tliesk we Ant -,1•011,- se- rfply., bee lir it tette, ... ~. ' . the. other industrious slew liail ilial . come from the • - . seo . - - ~ .‘ • . State paupers live in splendoer.. se • • creatures ars compelled to contribute all they posiess to support them. Let the system of extravagance, so long persevered in, be abolished. Let the army be re diced ; taxes diminished ; the expenses of state cur tailed ; let the passion list be revised ; and let all use less burdens be removed. It is the taxes—taxes res isted necessary by a shameful waste of money that press upon the fanner ; be Las to sail srt the Parson, the Poor, rep* the Roads, pay County Rotes, Church Asseemorntts and a variety of other oppres sive delis! ; ... isigiv is price would enable him to meet till his deman4a and live well besides; hot who, in those times. can pay high prices ; surely nothing can mere plainly indices the deplorable state of a country, in which thosseads of instances occur of -persons be. tag compelled to follow more tradestben one, to ebisia a peer pitteuce,whish seareelyettables them to live.-- To sonvinse *ethos a Tas on Cora will remedy all our 1118,, we eertaluly shall regain something more than the ,____-- pgifinewa affilametsb of my Lord Ens o . *T. His Lord. ship ilueisisiosea the national debt. ale not likely to Owes a very milled idea et his latelleetnal rapacity, .4 Oporsk. we way give his credit tei sincerity. Mt is _, r i . 1 got. however, the first who has ventured to pv4.11164'1,: the national debt "'a mine of wealth," Mr. J wi re B it , LICY once made a sli pof the same kied, bnt we never !in t of his reiterating his Irish doctrines. 11 i. no wsol t that my Lord italtiCl4o3lT should tato! the 1e44 in the Agricultural Itlnetings, when he informs, u5..40 1 has himself so little robfich•nce in the " wealth." that he 'never did, and netree-,nrill,..ii ir a farthing in the ‘lfilitis; and that, .consequently, a Lando wner , he is more interested. in the price of corn than in the fluctuations of the market on 'Change., There is one rircumwasee which the country at large cannot help feeliog a m , gatibfactios. Whatever be the difcreoces of "law as to the necessity or propriety of altering the existist Corn Laws or having any Corn Bil:, all parties tacitly admit the injudicious conduct of Ministers; all ac ally think them unable and unfit to direct the kflairo of this kingdput. They have lost the confidants a the nation ; it is high time, therefore, that they lo se t h eir places. The character of this ageicultural meeting an im to have been redeemed, by the sense and spirit ow * fested by one of the persons present, Mr. Blackmat Mr. B. plainly 'hewed them, as he had told them nai 'formly before, that they entertained mistake* vies' upon the subject on which they had met; asd as see ceesfully exposed the inconsistencies and usiscliietea blunders of the CNANCII,LOR of the Excatutma ad his Colleagues of the Agricultural Committee. W would congratulate the Agricultural °outlasts, such men as he belonged to their profeselos. however, does not; ai this exemption may accost for his enlightened Old liberal views. Mr. Bucs AIAN is a merchant at Lewes. We cheerfully congratulate the French people e the conduct of their Deputies. The Miniaters,pes Gentlemen, felt so sore upon their defeat that therm dered• their resignation ; but his Most Christise Ili JESTY would not accept of it. What affection es ta one band and pride on the other French Mioistc should imitate the patience and endurance of Brltii Miniaters, who, loyal souls, are so fond of their Ma ter—pooh, pooh,—their places and profits, we mese that theipocket any abuse or affront with true Chri than humiliation, and condone to transfer all the odiu to any shoulders from their own. We apprebeb however, that our own Ministers on the appreschh Session, will not find themselves slumbering on ahi of roses. They will be Wad, with all 014 tree)] before them ; and as they say at the Old Bailey, , 1 we wish them a good deliverance. To be sue, I may be told they can commend a large majority. doubt-bet they tan, provided things do not come boi to the httetteas and bosoms of the Meehan. Tb may be many who cannot collect tbeit teats, end w may begin to suspect that the payment of Peesic may become doubtful; then comes ele• the tag of ec between the hereditary prreperity-oxen and the Mil enjoyers of patronage; and the" aye " sauce", .Iweontethiag wore than a sere form. We should Cot oblect to instruct Ministers on dal flare of I reland, but alt they have been as long io task *ay progriti c ipirsrds the pesos. sod happiness of ti a bo sedsaku e try, we look ispottfirie ea unegail to chats That each a country. wheriribehOtroties OieatuM h been et profusely dispensed, shoold become thew of terror and of blood, may naturally excite tempi went. We knew the country well, we know tits per of its inhabitants.; they cad be led, by a balm eetelle..hot trlll act..be drive". by the lash or the °pet t they possess a bold ;Writ of 'freedom, et srostla sooner break than baud, that will do any tit by fair means, but will resist coercion. The Wittig kncer it, still they are aboitipo take measnres to l • -` ceiltritethe...ceauf itiste,il of talieg ioted 75d j.* and' the eitabli p s: tof Tba .11 P rdsi L are. allibiltto adeptsil its •pteee of the comillat t • systesfricommeoded by the Knee lust August. I . proves the humbug on the Irish people en that o awl. the sending of his lIIAJZSTT to Inlaid lc palpable humbug on the Kiss and the people, ail **quest facts clearly show. The sangoinag Masters, Orange Wreckers. Absentee Agate, TI Proctors, aid petty men • lit' office. lam itsai. l petipte rui‘ory and wretehedness.: Jostle* is ell their reach, for•they are too poor to go 1 1 kW. cep, are the cues.. of Irish mieerf wed I r is and She akrevanseet brat is easily pacified c girt the I t cleh peolthrWilia l f and a good word. and there is sot Stat e ' industrious. or affectionate people on the fate earlb. The Marquess Wst.aasaar is Wilda/ "P" to prove the healing balm to the Oevernmest of land. Hot it will soon be discovered that a the of measures not of men is wanted there. We a n who govern*, if they govern well. Notwithosad that the MARQVIIIIS may be a loan of talent, yet hope little from hire or hii assistant, Mr. netliDe v who served his apprenticeship in the PITT school, therefore cannot be expected to du any geed school , ' The Marquess governed India ; we hope he may bel better to the lIIISH HINDOOS. Our opinion is nothing salutary. will be effected either by the re Minister. or *e Marquess of WeLLEsLar. lIIMIACT OP A TATTER FROM TEXAS, OCT. I. Within a few =oaths a number of persou visited the interior of ibis Province, witb a do ascertaining 'drat degres of safety in pews aall pry to . aid isiosjoyed ; and for the purpose a l ing a jut estissite of the.advarvage, held ow