The Statesman. — London, England, 1814-07-05 00:00:00

troy, which this Bill appeared" to convey. The llon. Baronet animadverted upon the several clauses bf the Bill, especially the provisions authorising the Lord Lieutenant, of his own will (without a.njao.. presentation from the Magistrates) to declare any district in a disturbed state—to subject that district to' a superintendent Magistrate, with a salary of 7001. a-year ; such other Officers to . be paid at the npence of the county in which such district might be placed. Of these provisions the Hon. Baronet upraised his decided disapprobation. Sir H. PARNELL suggested tog propriety of pro. - *kiwis authorising Magistrates in Ireland to appoint petty constables as they were 'appointed in this country, and .also for the constitution of proper places for holding Quarter Sessions in the several , counties. Mr. BANKES submitted to the consideration of Government, whether it might not be necessary to adopt a stronger measure than this Bill imported, for the preservation of the peace of Iceland. if there should be occasion for such a measure, he trusted that it would be brought forward in due time before the coclusion of the Session. Mr. PEELE, after replying to the obseivations of Sir Frederick Flood, said, that it might be necessary to subunit some such proposition to the House, as his Hon. Friend (Mr. Bankes) had alluded to; but he was unwilling to mix ally temporary measure with the consideration of the present Bill, which was brought forward with a view to the permanent pre servation of the peace in Ireland, adding, that he was not aware of the existence of any unusual dis turbance in Ireland that should call for any extraor dinary interposition on the part of the Legislature. 'The present measure, however, had no reference to such a consideration. After a few more observations from Sir F. FLOOD the Clauses were agreed to ; the House resumed, and the Report was ordered to be brought up to-mor row. The House resolved itself into a Committee of Sup ply, for taking into consideration the Ordnance Es? timates, Mr. R. WARD stated, that considerable redact• lions would probably be expected in the Estimate' which he had to bring forward. In fact, a reduction would be found in the present year of 1,500,0001. — This sum amounted to one quarter of the whole ex pence. It would be recollected that half of the year bad passed in war, and there had not been an oppor tunity to seduce the different expences immediately. It was the beginning of April before it was known that Paris bad been entered by the Allies ; soon after Bonaparte abdicated, and on the 10th of that month orders were issued by the Master-General of the Ordnance too reduce the establishments in every pos sible way. The military department had been re duced one-fourth; the number of horse one-third ; and in the course of the year they would be reduced another third—that is, from 7000 to a third of that number. He slroeld not pledge himself to an exact estimate of the future reduction of expence, but he would offer a rough calculation of the probable re duction under the peace establishment. This he con ceived would be one half, excluive of the total re duction of all the foreign corps. In the engineer corps all the officers would he retained. This arose from the -peculiar mature Dr that - service, which required al. long and laborious course of education, and which, ! If once suffered to fall info neglect, could not easily s be replaced. It was not possible to speak in too ; high terms of the skill, the industry, and gallantry of the Officers in this corps. He would next advert to' what might be considered as an infant service, which bad, however, arrived at a state of manhood ; he meant the rocket corps. For this service, and for the wonders it had achieved in raising the military character of the country, we were indebted to an Honourable Friend of his, whom, as he did not see in his place, he would name. Colonel Congreve. The 1 Hon. Member then read several extracts from Offi eers in the army, to show the importance of the see- I vices which this corps had performed in Spain, and particularly at the passage of the Adour, where 40 mien armed with rockets had put to flight 3000 of the enemy. The whole of the Officers in this corps would be retained, but there would be a reduction in the number of men. In the works at Woolwich there had been a considerable reduction, and there would have been a greater, but from the necessity of giving the usual orders, and buying up materials as early in the Year as possible. The whole amount was 64,0001. every shilling of which he thought himself prepared to justify. Ono article under this head, which it was proper to account for, was 60001. for barracks. The fact was, that these were intended for a new corps of Sappers and Miners, for whom the barracks at Woolwich were not found sufficient. For the Royal Powder Mills there was a sum of 12,0001. which arose chiefly from the improvements. which had been adopted in the different mills to pre vent explosions. There had been also great improve ments, and consequently some expellee, in the ma chinery at Woolwich. Of the magnitude and int portancil of these works we might judge from tife quantity of arms and ammunition which had been cent abroad from the Laboratory at Woolwich, since the year 1808, among which were 834 pieces of can ton, 30,000 muskets, 77,000 barrels of gunpowder, and in the last year alone 320 cannon, 20,000 bar• tels of gunpowder, 48 millions of musket cartridges, 6 millions of flints, &c. Among the improvements in the machinery were two saws, which had cost from 16 to 20,0001. and which had already created a saving of near 80001. After various statements and details, the Hon. Gentleman concluded witfi l 'observing, that be should not have detained the House so long, but that he was urged by a sense of duty to eve every information and explanation in his power. The CHAIRMAN then proposed the vole of 1,746,0001. on account, for discharging the Ord nance Estimates. Mr. W. SMITH' and Mr. BANKES made some observations on the proposed amount of the peace establishment. • Mr. WARD explained. Ife particularly insisted on the necessity of keeping up the artillery and en gineer corps, in a greater proportion than the rest of the army. Even during every year of peace, he contended, improvements were taking place In the Artillery Department; but if the Officers in that Department were reduced, then all this was lust ; and all the spirit and gallantry in the world would not enable them to return to the serf/co in that state sporfection which Ire-Mortis ; he t tnenand materials t ipteasore," the estimate i Mr. C. W. WYN' keepiog op an army . 'armies of other couto Mr. CALCRAF thought the estimate was. After some furtl Ward, Mr. C. W. Calcraft, the moth:ft, Among other grants, provement of the Forth Navigation at Qatienti Ferry, the sum of iO,OOOl. 1. U The — Resolutions were severally agreed to, and the Iteport.was ordered to be received to-morrow. a .Ailf ERWA N PAPERS. ;.: . nesesitaw.. Tile teeny od:the , .14 fort i k' ' t g4cils, had not was gain. front . the ... rut by country lance of the. trciopS, after Landing: the gap . , dug their sboul. garritfon, consisting of 11sicomb's Jd tegimetit. 44, to the'Boreugii Artillery, 400 strong, and a nametnua blidy Id, ,(September, applialillon militia, saving.themselVes by a precipitate flight. mew on behalf Lientenant-peueral Drummond , speaks in did,. '.lt) nip font. Strongest terms of the cordialjudicious, and dines ..afterviiirds,o,,. cd-operation of Commodore. Sir James Yeo, Ind, lest long andie- the oflicerastpd,seamen of his frapadron • and lamen,tal seep to to the•temperAydom the.sersice bamsgst;diied ii4aps, lain Mulcister; oaf the Royal 1100 0 ruin ip,seteralz i . saill4ll4eason wounded. The eminent services o( that OffiCer, l and why the Comme....— i_...-..,ool.4sseciateile of Capttiins7O'Crinter s — PUptiiith * ,iiirtollie'r ii . s with the Aldermen in,this• ai, , Well. swam matters,. particularly noticed. snches the building of prisoptc ficca, ,- The Lieuteiwrit-Gentral bt ittens the highest:praise The House then divided— an the cool and jadiaieus conduct of Lieutenant-Co- Fol. the FE:and reaald - 1 lb lonal Fisclierokf, lAis Wattevllle's; end Lieutenant. Against It. 4 ' * . ' M1. .., 6 ~ Colonel •Mateolm, o f the Royal Marines ;on stfie . Majority - The Bill was read a second time eceerdlogiY, anA intrepid gallantry diiplayed by Cipt. Betsy, who red we understand, ordered to be committeslito-Morrew4 the belt companies of De Watteville's ; iiitri . "bx . The other Orders of the Day were th in puled Geptairt,M 4 Milliiii In the jrillitious execution of..tle. in, after which the Mouse adjourned atone o'clock, duties•assigned to his.light company,. la cosering tie advance; to Liesstenantp.Colonel Pearson, Inspeoing FRENCH PAPERS. . i Field-Officer, and Major Smelt, 103 d regiment, w l lln --am— - • I being easseoger it in ; the fleet,. volunteered their 14; 3 PARIS. Jua 1.. 1 vise ; Cppt. Cruttendon, Royal Artillery ; Brfier CHASHIF.R. OF DEPIJIISO. Jutitst 80. & _. , ! Miljor De Codlten, of De Watteville's ; Lieutenant M. Mauch is. alleaved to. speak in deveripment Stevens, RoCket Company ; Liiut. Gosset, Royal. of the proposition seismittedby 'him in the Sittin of; Engineers ; Lieutenant Laurie, of the Marinevasho 27th,,the27th,,concernieelte liberty of the I Press. le ledlthe first. pas ay that entered the. fort • and' I s ieut. ' entered at great le into ' she' subject, adverting tiewitt,, of the , same corps, who climbed the . lifg. to historical racti;arld appealing to recent experience staff, and smiled down. the Mericapcolonrs la[ for proof, that tyritnny and state crimes exist always were nailed' ' to it, are 'reipeitirely nailed iqr e t in proportion as the freedom of the press is coo. Lientenatq-Geoaral ; who resents, li i the itr'ti : . ._ .. _ trouled, and are repressed according . as that freedom . eat terms, the zealous and le assistance liitratit .. flourishes. He asked, emphatically, whether the in- periencerl, - .onthis end - every ftlionAeoccasioo, Pont vasion of Spain could have taken place if Bonaparte the Deputy : Adjutant-General, Lieutenant-Colenet had not totally extinguished the liberty of the press ? . Harvey.; and alike from his Aid-de-Camp, c m ptpj A . II • It was erroneous to impute to the freedom bf the • Jarvoise. press the excesses of the revolution ;on the contra- ! It is particularly gratifying to his Excellency to ry, it was the want, of that freedom, which was the ' have to notice,. that , to , the high. honour of both original source of these evils. M. Durbach adverted brancl4s of the seftfice, - thefe was not a single soli to the benefits enjoyed in England, by the well- ' dier or sailor missing, not a single instance •of ine ; regulated freedom of the press, as recognised by t toxication, although surrounded with temptation. the highest legal and constitutional authorities.-- i The service has lost a. brave and meritorious officer Among whom he cited Blackstone and Delolme. Ile in Capt. Hotta way, of the Royal Marines. • : adverted to the 08th Article of the Constitutional 1 Every object, of the Expedition being accoma Charter, guaranteeing a free press, and put his mo.. plished, the barracks burnt, and the fort dismantled, tion in form. The principal feature in it is the a l bs. and all public stores which were not brought away lition of all censorship, licence, or restraint prior to 1 1 destroyed, the troops re-embarked at four the follow ! publication ; attaching the resposibility for what is' Lug morning, and the squadron sailed for Kingston. published to the publisher, printer, and author, ac- The enemy's loss amounts to at least 100 killed, cording to the peinciples of the British laws now and,6o prieoners, the greater part wounded. established on this head. In closing his speech, M. Durbach said, " I entreat the Chamber with the more force to take my proposition into considera tion, inasmuch as I have to state, that I have re , ceived this morning, a letter from M. Dentru, printer and bookseller, of Paris, informing me, that a little publication of mine, known to you all, Gentlemen, entitled " Another Word touching the Gonslitn. lion," bearing my name and designation, has been sfized in his house, by the Inspector Menard. The simple mention of such nn act will, perhaps, be suffi cient to determine the Chamber to put a stop, so far as it is in its power, to so illegal a proceeding, so ' contrary to the • interests of the Country, and the ' pmeisions of the Constitutional Charter." Several voices call for the printing of M. Durbach's . speaih. •• • i A great majority decides this question n the ne gative. 1 The PRE4TDENT. — The fi rst point is fo ascertain I.whether M. Durbach's preposition be seconded. . Several Voices.—lt is seconded. 1 The PRUIDENT.-1 have to take the sense q the Assembly whether M. Durbach's motion is i i to be taken into consideration. A great majority decided this question in the ne gative. After an ineffectual attempt on the part of a Mem ber to otter some further observation, which the Pre sident refused to hear, the business being closed, the Assembly adjourned. 4RIV4TI CORRESPONDENCE, Paris, Jane SO. Some strange circumstances occur here every day, which illustrate, better than any description could do, the highly irritable state of the French feelings; and that which I now mention will show you at once the temper of the army .towards the present Government, as well as their insolence and con. fidence in their own strength. Thr4 days ago, soon after a review, two Officers of Dragoons went into a book shop in the Rue de Richelieu, and toeing some pamphlets on the counter which reflected on the reign of Bonaparte, they tore them to pieces without eery. molly, and scattered them to the winds. Notleitie:: - tied with this very logical aaalysjs of the chttiet,_._ brought agdinat their Master,' they revenged them selves by an attack upon his adveisatief, spitting to. peatedly at a miniature engraving of Monsieur which hung against the wall, and damning the whole race of Bourbons. The unfortunate woman, Whose crime of loyalty was :thus, visited on her means of living, had spirit enough to threaten them with a complaint to the police, when" they left the shop, but returned in a few minutes with a reinforcement of three ou four other Officers, and told her plainly, that if she dared to complain, they would break every window she had, and turn her books with herself and family into the street. I pledge myself to you for the truth of the foregoing narrative—it- is by this time per fectly well known to Government; the Police are in possession of every part of it. You ere well enough aware how such an insult on his supremacy ADJUTANT-GENERAL'S orricr.. would have been endured by Bonaparte ; at the same Head-quarters, Montre,l, May 12, 1814. time, if the present offence be passed over, with. GEN:.:It AL ORDERS. out enquiry, it will indicate rather a defect of power, ilk Excellency the Governor in Chief and Com. than a changed principles, in the Police. In an. mender of the Forces has the highest gratilicstion in other event that has occurred since Friday last, mil• announcing to the troops, the f t he has received a fortune has been added to what appear at best a gross dispatch from Lieutenant-C.lolKit Drummond, re- impolicy. It seems the Court could not be satisfied Porting the result of a most 'apiritt4l and successful . with the daily services of that most respectable and attack on the enemy's fort and position at Oswego, admirable body, the National Guars of Paris, in which was carried by' assault at noon on the 6th the interior of the Palace. They have been long erM. instant. ployed in creating a garde du corps, or Body Guard, I The Lieutenant Gimlet reports, that having for the King ; because such a Guard existed foie I caused six companies of the regiment De Watte- mealy; and this is commanded by two emigrant(( vine, and 'Ai' compaiy of the Glengary Light I believe highly respectable) Nobles( On the day with - n . sintill difiaanent ,of artilllry,i when this corps was to relieve the National Guard to eilbark on' beard* the'lobadren, in addition te , l In the Kidg's apartments, the officers commanding the second battalion' of ' Royal Marines, he cc.' the latter had, by some neglect, been left in igno. • • companied Sir James Yee, in •the Prince Regent,' ranee of 'the 'hour when it was to take'plaew. No and on the evening of the sth Inst. anchored off 1 orders, therefore, had been issued to his sentries on Oswego :.bet a *violeht *gale of wind driving the the subject. When a certain nobleman came with •'squadronnff shore, Th e position. was not again reco- s his new guard and commanded the old sentries to I'vered till .neon on the following thy, when the dis. ! withdraw to the more distant posts, they refused to ! position for.laoding was instantly carried into exe- obey without instructions'from their ,own officers.— I cation; in the following order :—the frigates taking !Some words arose; some duels•weretheconseqeende t a posttloin'from• Whence they could cannonade the !in which two valuable lives base been lost—one on fort, slid the brigs, schooners; and gun-boats, in i the side of either party. The. National yards • proportion to their respective draft of water, covered threatened to lay down their. arAns, and • , pi t he by their fi re the several points of .debarkation of the Royal Family at. the merzg i .of another body. :. its troops, which, was attended with considerable diffi- I coming to the King's ears, he sent the Mutest noes ! cultv owing to the shoalness of niter • the boats I ssge that could be devised, .which..hed the e ff ect of . • I • • grounding, the troops were, in many instances,' alleast sus pending their resetitMent ; and attempts obliged to leap out, and wade through the water. to [have been Made to efface the whole business froth I their middles 'to gain the landing; and the enemy their recollection, by complimenktnd invitations to . : haring strongly occupied the favourable positions ;'dinner, &c. We must hope it is all at an end ; but I near the shore and woods with which it is surround. why the National Guard, who had begun to attach ed, the disembarkation' was attended with some loss, .themselves warmly to the King, .should not still be I but 'effected with thiretureet Oromptitede under the left the defenders of his person, it is not m y easy tp direction of 'Lieut.-Coronet Fitchet, led by the new. judge. They all serve without pay; TO .are . 1t Iformed flank companies of De Watterflie's regiment, truth the nation—possessing its entire under Captain Bersy; the remaininglour companies,' and powerfully itilluencing its opinitotil. and detachment of Royal Artillery, being held , King have placed himself 'abetter hands ? Thief** reserve. The 2tl battalion of Marines, under 'Lieu- of replacing old names and institutions, by way of tenant-Colonel Malcolm, aupported by a detachment' bringing back the peopk to what they were before of '2OO seamen, under Captain Mulcaster, Royal the Revolution, is of all follies the most 4011047 navy, formed a 2d column to the right. Captain, the French people are changed beyond recali—they M‘Millah's , company of Glengary Light Infantry are sensible of it—and what's more, they gloryin It gained the skirts of the wood to the left, and cover. . --boasting lumpy, that whatever evils may bestowed . . . . . • Ilfit cgiiATEgS4Aff -- .--...... .r --- 2--Aoim.r---.' :-- ' - ':'""'" ' "-- wait required. Asti tie espial* Miens as shauld ba deented necessary. statedi that an**, this head of iasprovemeatcof late made in , county, Is for the Kist' Patsies or Blues made by, Acts of Parlitment bali:en sate returned Sias 40001. atlemen meeting together ancEputtin gNF: protestect against the hie of piers fairly to the work. With respect tc F . itith rofdrangeftki kos t a t o o f the Catnpter, •on the lath of 'Septembei sillies. ~,„. , ,4 . htid been made to the,Coort of,Alderm ?I', under all thp, circpmstances t s of the prisoners,. as there were , ealy) 11 eco Id not be much less than it .persons. The ! number of.passona.stas.l ...1. , . And yet daring •the .1 4plo of theism • -, ihet 'onversation between Mr. sere winter not the simdlest attention Winne, Mr. Bankesi and Mr. . this applieation.—[fiear, isesiorl' on was put and agreed - to. •• ' ' • . Mr. tfOLPORD, la repty i said, he s int', there • was toted for the im. why the Common Caancil :should,nat. • ' adritoie of the iiqiuvls to tl inerlind carried in Oi EAST INDIA SHIPPING BILL. Oh the Motion of theCHA.llo.lls.oft of the EXCIREQUHIt, after a few words frost' Mr. Alder man Atkins, Mr. 11. Sumner, &c. thosecond reading of. the East India Shipping' Bill WWI postponed till to-morrow. , • CITY GAOLS BILL. Mr. HOLFORI) moved the second reading of the Bill for improving the coftdition of the Gaols of the City of London. His object was, without throw ing out any reflection an the Aldermen of London, the present managers, to secure to the prisons of the metropolis the visitation of a greater number of per sons equallycompetent, and from their iitoation not 'less inclined to attend to their wanti data the pre sent managers were. Sir W. CURTIS contended, that the prevent Bill was not justified by any thing which appeared on the' , face of the Report. In a short time the Magistrates of London would have it iv their power to liberate 3 or 400 prisoners from Nevrgate, and' theca to pro vide for the better accommodation of prlsixters in their other gaols. If the present passed the Aldermen must feel degraded and disgraced. They must feel that a higher authority had been placed over them. To such a degradation they had no right to submit. If they had done amiss, or had forfeited the confidence of the House and of the public, let them be brought before a competent tribunal, and there exposed; but let them not be stigmatized with. out proof or cause of any kind. He concluded by moving, as an amendment, that the Bill be read a Isecond time this day six mouths. _ _ Sir JAMES SH - AW,• in seconding this motion, entered into an enumeration of the comforts and im provements in the situation of the prisoners, lately introduced by the Magistrates of London, by which he contended, they were in point of diet, rendered infinitely more comfortable than the generality of the poor inhabitants of Yorkshire, of Ireland, or of Scotland. The prisoners were visited daily, by the Sheriffs • weekly, by the Alderman sitting in rota tion at Guildhall; and eight times .a year by three Aldermen, one of whom had passed, and two of whom had not passed the Chair. He asked, could any thing be more complete then this? If the lion. Gentleman, however, wished to point out any thing amiss in the direction, let it be shown, and the only desire of the Magistrates was that it should be remedied. - - • - Mr. M. A. TAYLOR declared, he bed never in his life Seen a worse managed gaol than that of New gate. When he, on a late melancholy occasion, at tended to that prison an ettfortuttate being, who had deprived the House of the services of one of the best of men, there literally could not be found a roots in which to place him. Let the House compere the state of Newgate with the state of the goal of Glou. cester, or of that of Yerk. If the :Magistracy of London spent oe the prisons of the Metropolis only a fiftieth part of the money they expended in magel. ficent entertainments, the unhappy prisoners would soon be in a very different plight. That something ought to he (lone wrlevident. Mr. BA:ritutisr:allogred that something 'ought to be done. But the queition before the House was, whether the particular Bill that was proposed was the best measure that could be adopted. In Mg Opinion, a great part of the existing evil arose from' the crowded state of Newgate, and would be re. •medied when the prisons now in progress should be completed. He could see no good that would be gained by taking the management of the prison Mit of the present hands. It Would be le great reflection . on the Magistracy of Landau thus fo supersede them in the exercise of their functions. He admitted, that many county gaols were in much better condi tion, but this was solely attributable to the subdivi- Sion of the prisoners which took place in them, a prat. tice which, in the existing state of Newgate, could not I be resorted to. Mr. BENNET contended that want of room was not the only evil experienced in Nee gate. To this were to be added want of fond, and want of cloth ing. The evidence before the Committee fully esta blished the fact, that the prisoners laboured under these privations. Mr. %V. SMITE!, while he professed himself un able to see why the Aldermen and the Common Councilmen should be considered as antagonists un der the Bill, and while he contended, that on the contrary they would soon act in perfect concerti admitted that it would be advisable for the Honour able Gentleman to withdraw his Bill for a year, in Order That it might be better digested, that the in dividuals to be selected for the management should be better considered, and that the effect of the gaols now buihling should be fully ascertained. He hoped . also, that as the attention of the magistracy had been ' 'so pointedly called to the subject, many Important reforms would be adopted. If, however, contrary to his expectation, the evil should still nistnext year, neither the antiquity of the present constitu tion of the city, nor any other consideration, should induce Mm to withhold his assent from some legi slative measure of correction. Sir THOMAS ACKLAND said 'it was evident from what had been already stated, that many most glaring defects did not originate in the want of room but in the want of attention in the Magistrates. In the Borough Compter, that wretched prison, so late as Saturday last, a man Way. obliged to lie the night through on boards for want of blinkets. rt had been objected by i • Milli • HosioUrable Gentleman (Mr. 11. Bathurst) OM their were no regulations in this Wit for the adralitigtration of the 'prison; hot the Bill empowered a Committee to make.such regit- .....t i .7,..% . 4, P 1 ~. ~~ T . :1 • 4 -