The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-03-07 00:00:00

~..~--- T ab'e that a hen the mode of satisfying the incumbent o as agreeable to all Tar its that they sbonld not be interfer ed with. When the two Commissioners—the one on the part pf the incumbent, and the other on the pan cf the 'garish —were appointed, they were to meet and settle apes the stun to 'be psid to the incumbent in satisfaction for his claim of tithes of every description. If the Commiasionerte failed to come to any agreement, — then it would be competent for them to appoint *s.-1 qmpire, whose decision should be conclusive. — It it in case they did not agree about the appointment of the umpire, there was a power given to the Lord Lieute nant, after a certain internal, to appoint a Commissioner. Wheneverit appeared that there was an Insufficient re compense for the Clergyman, the Commissioner was to inquire into the price of corn for the previous three years, according to which the amount of the composition ass to be fixed. It was proposed that every three years there should be power of varying the composition, according to the price of corn for the previous three years. He thought the house would prefer that the revision should be meanie), because in those instances where a composi tion bad taken place, to be binding for 14 years, accord ing to the price of corn for the previous 14 years, it was found that much inconvenience, and indeed injustice, were the consequence. The composition being fixed, the next question was how it alioald be paid. He proposed that assessments should he made on bail/ling. in a way similar to the mode practised in this country, when assesstnen's were made on different tenements. It was not intended tomake any change with. respect to the land which was essentially tithe-free. But he confessed that it was fair to consider in a different light that part of the land which was hitherto exempted. ft was not intended to continue the exemption from the tithe of agistment.—(Cheers.) • lir thought it but fair, that the land, whether undergoing cultivation or not, should be assessed in its fair propor tion.—(Hear.) The last point n hich .he had to explain I to the house, was the remedy of the incumbent in case of bon-payment of the composition. As the law now stood, the incumbent had the power of coming on the crop for his tithe. It tram intended that this power should conti nne as a resource in ease of non-payment of the compo sition, the priority being also continued over the land lord. He would propose several a.taitional means of re covering the compositions which would be detailed in the Bill. 'the second measure related to the permanent commutatations. Whenever an incumbent expressed a wish to bate a permanent commutation by way of land, lie Was to carry his application to certain Commissioners to be appointed under the Bill. and they would select in the parish itself, or as near as possible to it, a portion of land which they would purchase, and assess over to the incumbent, producing, as nearly as it could he ascertain ed, a yearly snm equal to the tithe or the composition. The great difficulty is carrying into effect this plan wonld be, h+sv to procure the money necessary for the purchase of the land. It did appear to the Government, that according to the manner in *MA land might be purchased in Ireland at present, that this plan might be carried into effect with considerable advantage. It was intended to give to the Commissioners for the reduction of the National Debt, the power of purchasing land in fee Zir the purposes of this commutation. As soon as the land should be perchers/4, the right of the in. cum- 1 tent to the tithes was to cease, and the tithe or composi tion was to be pea over to the Commissioners of the Na tional Debt, in remuneration of the sums paid for the purchase of time land. It would be for him. on a future occasion, to show from calculations that land might be perchased in this way upon terms the most advantageous. lie trusted thst these measore3 would be felt by the house to he applicable to the evils they proposed to remedy. 'they would, he was sure, contribute to the tranquillity of Ireland, and to the removal cf those animosities which unhappily nested there.—(Hear.) He then mov ed for leave to br'ng in a Bill to establish a composition of tithes for a limited period in Ireland. Mr. it. FITZGER 4LD said he felt every reasoner/ be satielle4 OS the part e his countrymen with the dlapoalticia. !manifested by the Government towards that people; This was not the time for (Bemusing the details of the measure cow salimltted to the House. But there were one or two points on which lie owned he required some explanation.— re should. for instance, consider the plan for establishing sdeet vestries as wholly iaappllcable to several parishes in Ireland; for the Right lion. dcutleman world end, on in qi,:ry, that in some of L'ore perishes there was not only no substantial farmer, or resideot Gentlemen of the Establish ed Church, but in some eases not a member of the Church at all. The greet fault of the Bill, as be at present perceived its hearings. wits that it did not do away with the micer. tsloty, which was the lamentable vice cf the former system.' it would be advisable iu any case to make the tithe on artist moot a part of the change to be adopted. Ila did not agree With those who, said that the Vote of the Irish House of Commons, in 1735, was a robbery on the Clergy. He be toyed that the Clergy a short time before had set up a right, end that this vote was intruded to counteract their claims. lima object a att:d be to produce a measure which would be pi:eminent. and net duetuatiug in its. operation. Sir H. PARNELL said that Curt would be one most important benefit protineed by thiv measure ; namely, that It would do away with the annual valuation of tithe proc tors.—(lle-r.) He proposed to enter more at large Into the details of this measure when the opportunity should sr rife. Sir J. NP.WPORT said that he could not avoid ap. plauding the spirit which showed itself in the measures of Government for the amelioration of the condition of Ireland.. He entirely appr6ved of that part of the Bill which restored the tithe on agistment, for he considered Ike sormeusion of it as a nefarious ifivasion of the rights of the poor. He apprehended that much embarrass silent would attend the working of the Bill in Ireland, 011 laconnt of the absence of those local persons which were to be found so happily existing in this country.— . However, lie was pleased to 'finer that Special Vestries •would be thus established. Such machinery being once put in motion, might, with the greatest success, be ap plied in other ways, and.he could not believe but that great service would be done to the country. Mr. CARED concurred with his honourable friend in . the opinion as to the benefits to be aaticipated from this immure. Mr. S. RICE said he congratulated the house and the empire upon the prospects now opening upon Ireland. Last year the house was galled on to assist time executive by mitaary force, to put down disturbances in Ireland. dint cow they saw the members of the Government taming down to ask the Louse to assist them in taking away the causes of complaint—to assist them in healing wounds, which had been kept open too long. These new saeasures would not be lost on Ireland. Whatever ig corant persons might pretend to the contrary, he was persuaded that these acts of Government would produce It rich harvest of gratitude in that country.—(Hear.)— The Indiag objection to this Bill was too great cone pteeity. eerwever, he joined in applauding that part of the Bill which restored the time of agistment.— He trusted that the landed 'interest would cordially to forward and meet time Government half way is their efforts to put Ireland into a state of perman-nt tranquillity. Mr..C. HUTCHINSON said he had never risen in that house with stronger naafi/am than on the present oecesien. Ile thanked the Hon. Gentleman oposite in as strong terms as Lis feelings could snggest for showing • tsposition,tO do jastice to Ireland. Having shrew uniformly!) aceostotned to complain, in his place as a Member of t, that the ireerasts of Ireland were ateglected. iegiwe him sincere pleasure to perceive that hie Naiades Ministers were determined to act upon ettler and &titer principles. As an Irishman, he would thank them on Waif of the people of Ireland; nay, more, he would thank them on behalf of the whole Eil}. pirP ; for in attending to the Wotan. of Ireland, they would do more to strength', the Empire than could pos. - • !, THE STATESMAN sibly be done b)• any other mean.. He felt deeply grate fat to theta for having admitted the principle of commu tation ; for it was one which would afford the greatest re:ief•to the Catholics, while it would give additional se curity to the Protestant Establishment. The kind hearted manner in which, on a recent occasion, the Chancellor of the Exchequer had expressed his desire to extend relief to Irelsnd, ought to be generally known in that country ; and he felt no less anxious that the dis positions evinced by the two Right lion. Secretaries to do away that state of distraction which hail so been the curse of Ireland, should be made as widely known as possible. Colonel BARRY expressed his .estire concurrence in the measure. After a few observations from Mr. Fitzgerald, Mr. Grattan, Col. Trench, cnd Mr. Hume, Mr. GOULBURN said in explanation, the composi tion was to continue for twenty-one years, but that the corn was to be valued every third year, in order that the income might be kept up in proportion to the value of the prod it re. A desultory• conversation across the table then took place between Mr. Ricardo, Mr. Peel, Mr. Plunkett, anti Mr. Denman, after which the motion was unani ntously agreed to. NATIONAL DEBT REDUCTION ACTS. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the. EX CHEQUER, the 'tenon of the National Debt Reduction Act was brought op. The right hon. pint- them moved that it be read, upon which Mr. CA LUNA rr rose, and said he was sorry to inter rupt the harmony that seemed to prevail in the house, but a sense of his duty obliged hint to do so. He had, on a former occasion, stated that thorn who were &deo c it. s fur a further reduction of taxation would'find theme selves in a difficult situation, if the Chancellor of the Exchequer should get a measure passed into a law, which wonld have the effect of tying up the surplus re venue of the country. His own opinion was, that a great proportion of it had much better been applied to the re list of taxation. Those persons who held the lame opinion with himself were reproached with not taking a statesman-like view of the subject, and it was said they were only seeking after popularity. He for one would say, though not adverse to popularity, if hecould attain it considerably with a proper discharge of his duty, yet that he would never go out of the way of his duty to secure it. He would own that he was a friend to the principles of a Sinking Fund, to be kept up by a surplus revenue, when the country was in the situation to apply it to a ' bona fide' discharge of the debt. Nei- Hier would he oppose the present surOut being so ap plied, if he . .did not think that a different application of it would be . more beneficial even to those whose interests it regarded, namely, the holders of Ouvernment seeuri ties. But then it was said, that if that was done, it would he impossible to find persons who would be dis posed to lend money upon any occasion of emergency. In his opinion, however, those who had money to lend, did not look so much for security to the Sinking Fund, as to the circumstances of the trade. and real substantial wealth of the country. He would ask whether the funds were new at r price, that required to be increased by any financial operation. He would again content that a much better application might be made of ,he surplus revenue than the measure now proposed. The object of the propesition which he had to sdbmit, and upon whirl' he shwa' reel it his duty to take the sense of the horse was, that the Chan cellor of the Exchequer should not urge the farther pro gress of the report till the 20th April next. 'I his could produce no effect whatev r on the credit of the country for the surplus revenue woe' I still go in the interval to the payment of the debt, and the only difference would be, that the politic accounts, instead of being narde up to the sth of April, as usual, would be made up to the bth of July.. His great object was to have in the mean time the opinion of the house as to whether hither res dostion one lit not to be made out of theksurples food.J It was quite clear that in the present Seaton no further reductions could take place, except out oftbe surplus re venue, and while it was yet unappropriated it was open to the house to consider whether the measure he now proposed might not be adopted with advantage to the public. He wont.' not attempt to appropriate the whole of the 5,000,0i101. to the reduction of taxes, lest it might subject the Chat:le-11m of the Exch-qeer to . any inconve nience in his operations. All d sases of the people were said to be in a Nourishing condition except one, and even that class, he had reason to say, was in a state of improvement. But under all circumstances, there was as tittle cause of apprehending a failure in the revenue of this country as in any country that was ever known. For the reasons he had stated, he moved to defer the fur ther consideration co' the Report till the 20th of April next. Colonel WOOD sail he was as much a friend to the intere,t as any ,ther Member. It was not by re ducing this or that, or any other small tax, that any benefit could be coeferred on the agricultural classes, but it was by keeping up the public credit of the country, and by re dueiog the interest of money. The Hue. "Member who spoke last, was desirous that the surplus of revenue, in stead.of going in the Wort of a binking Fund to reduce the debt, should be applied to the repeal of taxes, and he accordingly, on a former night. said he would move for a repeal of the Leather Tax. But the redoclion of that tax last Session, he was convinced, benefitted no one ; cer tain!), the lauded interest received not the least advantage from it. The best sera ice that could be rendered to that and every other class of the people, was to secure the pre sent surplus to opernte as a sinking fund in reducing the public debt and keeping up public credit. Under that im pression he would vote for ds original motion. Mr. W. SMITH said that he was Instructed by persons who were concerned in the leather trade to say that since the reduction of the tax last Session the demand for that .article had increased considerably, and enabled the tan ners to pay more to the farmer for hides and the wood grower for bark. It was 'leer, therefore, that a double h e uedt arose from VII, reduction of bad' the duty in those a tides. First, to the tanner, on accoubt of the increased d s mane ; and, secondly, through the tanner to the fanner, in making the commodity cheaper as well se Odd a higher price for the raw material. fie was of opinion• that it would be more expedient to reduce tales an to secure a Sinking Fund, which could produce enood effect, but would be diverted to other purposes than a reelection of the debt, if the country were to go to war. Col. WOOD, in explanation, said, that the lion. Gent. and himself must have had their inf sensation from differ ent sqorces. He had understood that bark was never so low in price as at present.—(X laugh.) Mr. J. MARTIN expressed his approbation of the measure introduced by the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He hoped he would not stop there, hut nould increase the Pinking Nod hereafter. There was room for im provement in the accounts which he hoped would be simplifies'. He was also of opinion that some reduce lions might be made in the expenses of the public establishments. Mr.BENN ETT admitted,that in con.equeoce of the re duction of the duty on leather, there was a rise in the, price deities and nark, but not in proportion to the re daction that was`naide. He agreed generally with the bon. member for ror:arlington, that supply rod dem mud. regulated each other. There use no rule without an ex. ceptiou,and agricultural produce was an excision to that maxim. The hon. gentleman then went into some argn mentain proof of that position, and in the nature of prac tical economy, wbicli did not appear to him so abstruse as it was generally supposed. He thought that all dre taxes taken offs:ere so mach given to the landlords. The landed interest could' receive no benefit except from the reduction of taxes that fell on land, and except perhaps, a re duction of the interest of money. He trusted the ho , aourable gentleman (Mr. Wendt) would persevirr jp )die amendment, and follow it op by moving for s repeal ofl the Leath►r 'Fair. Sir J. SHELLEY expressed a wish that the Chancel• for of the Exchequer would be able to propose a further reduction of taxes, to the amount of two millions more, which, with those already conceded, would make boar millions in all. Mr. C. SMITH supported the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. HUME said he would take the opportunity of re deeming the pledge which he had given, of proving, not only that the operations of the Sinking Fund were useless, but even produced a loss to the pubiic. Ile would undertake to say that the Sinking Fund, if going on for ever on the sys tem that it was conducted on, would not reduce one hun dred pounds of the public Debt. A reduction might be made in the Debt by applying the surplus of revenue of in come to the cancelling at once so much of the Debt. The Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer took eredit for the operations of the Sinking Fund on the capital Debt for the last seven years, and said a reduction in the Funded Debt was effected to the amount of 24.700,0001. — The Hon. Member here went into calculations of the sums redeemed in each of the last seven years, and came to a con clusion that the result of all the transactions on the Funded Debt in that time was a reduction of only 22,461 4 000/. Be tween that and the sum stated by the Chancellor of the Ex chequer there was a difference of 2,246,0001. which was really lost to the public. The House was to expect no be nefit from the continuance of the systeth. end the Clianceilsr of the Exchequer himself was candid enough to tidal t that no reduction could be effected except by a real surplus.— The country was before deluded by the appearance of a Sinking Fund of slate -t mildons. He appealed to the Rt. Hoe. Gent, whether he would keep up the delusion of a sur plus of two millions. Not one shilling of the National Debt was paid by the Sinking Fund since 1793 to the present mo ment. It was of no use to relieve th • burdens of the people, who had still to pay' the Interest of the sum not redeemed as to them, hut transferred from one account to anoth it. The next question was, whether it was expedient, io the present eireu.ustances of the country. to have ally surplus of revenue over the necessary expenditure. It wits only when a sur plus was made that there could he any thing like a Sink ing Fund. There was no such thing in America as a hie ing Fend like this, for when the amount of any debt was ispaid off, it was entered as paid in a list , and no lon g er ex ted. Mr. J. SMITH declared that daring the long war in wiii.;l we had been engaged, it would have been impos sible to have raised the supplies without a Sinking Fund. He was anstivocate for the Sinking Fund of live mil lions, because it wont! tend to increase the capitals of men carrying on business, by keeping the funds high, for when the funds were high, commercial men would always have facilities for carrying on their business. Toe best security for public credit, however, was retrench. ment anti economy—(Herr, hear!)—and he was con vinced that extravagant ear i'liture on thi part of Go vernment would have a faint effect on credit, and on the property of individuals. Economy was the best and only friend of public creit. Unless every thing has done in the way of economy which could be done, there would be no end of discussions in that house upon finan cial embarrassments. Mr. ;BOMA was confident that the Sinking Fund was not only not b-nefizial, but mi4chievons. He did not see any necessity for keeping up the price of the funds. The fundholders did not want to have them high. They were content with receiving their dividends. But there were money-lenders, who were contributing to loans for foreign ga;ernments—these were the only persons live rested in keeping up the price of the fund:, and he did not conceive the financial and commercial interests of the country ought to be sacrificed on their account. As to the idea of extinguishing the debt by means of a Sink. ing Fuod like this, it svas quite absurd. The mote we had heretofore paid off, the more we owed ; and by keep ing up the price of the funds we were putting ourselves further from the payment of debt. The grooves! put of the mischief arose from the practice of borrowing in 3 per Cent. Stock, by which the Government disabled it- self from pitying. off at par, becalms for every 601 we borrowed, it weeld be neeeteary to pay MI. before that debt was cleared off. No gentleman in private life would borrow money on such terms, and if he did, no Court of Equity in the lio4dom, would allow such a con tract to hold good. The Lord Chancellor, if the case came before him, would direct a repayment of the princi pal received; with no more than the legal interest. There was a great error its to the nature of public credit. In this there must not only be a dispnsitioo, bet an ability to pay the debt, and nothing should be done that tended to do away that ability ; but an excessive taxation would do it away. If these increased taxes intended for a Sinking Fund were remitted, and the people relieved from the pay ment of tnem, their condition would be so improved, that they would be much better able to pay off the dept in fu ture years. The American Government had adopted a plan of this kind, by which the resources and Income of the coun try were increased, without laying on additional taxation. It was time duty of this country to remit the tares as much es pessible, in order to increase the public resources. Alr. :WARD() said lie should always continue of opinion, that a Sinking Fund was a good thin., vided the ronntry did not continue to borrow ntmey, and that it was applied to the expen litute of the pub lic debt. But at tne same time, he would not trust this Fund to his Majesty's Ministers, who would, as they bad done before, Vern it into a mere tictitions Sinking Flied. What was called a fund of five millions did not exist. The only surplus of taxes was three millions; and if the Sinking blind was now to be done away, the Chsn cellor of the Exchequer mild repeal no more taxes than three millions. He was really alarmed at the amount of the public debt ; be felt that no means for diminishing it ought to be left untried ; and he was confident that the present fallacious Sinking Fund would never sin it away. Therefore some great effort ought to be :tittle, in order to get rid of this mons' roils evil. He thought that all kinds of property, and law among the rest, ought to contribote a snare toward' paying ofT this enormous debt, which disorganized all the commercial o p e rations of the cnutory. Hut he did rat think list such a thing could be done, unless the people had a rat • !lament differentlyorginized from the present. bear.) It had been said that the Sinking Fund would overate as a relief to the landed interest, by 'wailing country gentlemen to borrow money a' a low rate of in terest. He alb{ not think any such effect wool.' be pro duced; for he did not think that this trifling Sinking Fund would ever have such an operation. Mr. A. BARING said he never heard such extriorrlinery comiusions as those made by his Hon. Friend (Mr. P.. - cards)) for paying off the National Deht. It wits the plan only of one who studied from books ; but who had not melee himself acquainted with the lister@ one character of mankind. Hie only obj-ction to a Sinking Fund was, that it would not he left; but if that Fund only continued for a siaele year. it would be a gala to the country. This question most rest ott a general view of the finances of the country, not that of one interest as opposed to another ; and one of time ieterests of a Sinking Fundwas, Met of its being a beginning to rest on, for the raising of loans in case of war. The case of America was the strongest mitt:Dent is favour of a Sinking Fund, for there a surplus did exist, and was app'iad towards the reduction of the debt. it was an utifi.ir mode of comparison to judge the Slaking Fula of 5.030.0001. is cater:lst with the Intel amount of a debt of 50d,030,003/.; its effect t;ho.:ld I e j idged by its operation with regard to tue interest of 30,190 )39'. Before the lute fall in the Funds, Long Annuities were at a price equal to 20 years' purchate, and if it were possible to zonvcrt the debt into Long Aunui ies, pit is an leterest Olive percent. it might by that reasoning he extineuished in /7 years.— Therefore he caneidered that 11 the country was blessed with a long period of proniund peace, the Stoking Fund might be expected to make a real reduction of debt. He was not at aft disposed to concur in the reasoning of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, who contended that by earl's lag on the Sinking Fund at compound interest, they Kid every year deeper into debt, when if eppliiel at sinple ill serest, a :mintiest of debt might be effected,, With regard II V to the Amendment before them, lie could give ft W.s •tso: port, if he could see any good reason to pause until the leKli of Am it But he feared that whin his lion. Friend looked to was to stair. time. for the purpose of creating en anxiety in the public nand for a greater reduction of taxation. For he well knew how fast petitions would poor in against any one tax, if hints were gismo that then was the time to make sturdy applicetion. Mr. WARM?. felt the necessity of apologiz:og for tali:- ing op the time of the house, even for a moment, ',no n t let intricate s thjeet. It was beyond h is reach to under stand all that was said, day after day, by two Hon. Mem bers, who displayed all the ingenuity and resources of their great minds. He confessed his inability to fallow their lactdarrions, and he might fairly apply not to what they said, but to the general discussions on the sahje;; —a doggerel uisti..l§ " Puzzling by explanation, Obscuring by elucidation." After some other remarks the Hun. Member couclude4 by giving hie :Alien to the amendment. Mr. CA IiC:I.AbT rose, and said, that as hi s a id e the house hail furnished the whole of the debate, as the Gentletn-n of the. other sihe were totally .il et a upon it, he would nut intrude ',von thrua.—(Hear a•:ti laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the F,XCHEQLTER, am' s lona cries of " Question, Question!" rose to explain, that indisposition prevente I hint front addressing the house, but independent of that cause, he awe no nece•ii:e for dividing the honours of the debate nit!! the H 0... u„ r. o, ; „ en o pp os ite,—(Heer, bear!)—as he had , a fee• evenings slaws fully expleined his sentiments upon ti•e subject, an I he really shod., say, without insatiiog any disrespect, that he did not hear any thing in :L a wry of arglreent on that night to respire a reply Prow him. Mr. CALCRAF I' said, there were other Hon. Ovule. men on the Mioisterial side ivliu might have spoken with , out moiling the Hon. Chancellor of the ;lg.:helper to • distress himself. • The lions- then divided on the Amendment:—Ayea,4; Noes 93; Majority 36. 'l' he resolntions were then read and agreed to. The other Orders of the Div were then disposed o.f. and the house adjsurtied at half-past Ten. • • } MAII S. ARR. SIVE. ARR. 9 1 . 1. D 4 I. —Dublin 0 1 • 0.... Waterford.. • I 1 0.... H amino i 0.... G & Jersey. • . .1 0.... F:ance 1 0.... Lisbon 0 0 ...Flanders .......3 o....Gottenburg 4 O. —Malta ..0 PRICE OF STOCKS TIM DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. Rank !Stook ... India Stork 3 per CLRed I Ditto Bonds ..s. Ws 23s.plts. 3 per Ct. Cons . ..... ...731 i , South Sea Stock 3 per Ct. 4 per Cents.... ........ .. I Ex.Bill.2d. 2 los l is spas. New Fours 6 per Ct. 1797 I —3012. 10. 1111 spa. Long Ana.. . I -Swan .. IN Its psi Imp. 3 per Ct.... .. .. .73/ •• I Con.for lea. 73,tt Irish 6 per Cents ; LotteryTteksts .... 22i. IS. TioHank Zit *tatcoman. FRIDAY EVENINU, MARCH 7, I8?3. IMPORTANT EVENTS AT PARIS. PROCEEDINGS OP THE CHAMBER OP DEPUTIES. it is seldom that any thing takes place in this body which we think worthy of particular notice ; but, the French Chamber of Deputies,—that is to say, thrir Lower House, have, it seems, eapelled a member of the name of Manuel ; and the thing, all taken together, is curious. In a debate upon the sear Co which M. Ma• ; nuel is opposed) be said words to this effect: thst the fo- 0 reign enemies of France, by their attack upon the Frew% were the cause of the killing of the king. Hie words were interpreted into a defence of king killing. H. defended himself very ably; but being of what they call the cotj gauche, or left-hand aide, or oppo:rtioe, his defence was nothing against the votes of the tiOtt hand side, which appears to he the Government side and by those votes be has been expelled, not altogetl et : but for is hat the morning papers call the session. We hare not seen the French report, and therefore tree innct tell whether expulsion be for ah it see call the tessinn. or for we call the sitting, that is to say, for one day. 1 hr French, by their word s 4 ance mean sitting. Henze the es• preasion that they used to metre use of seance petinaneatee that is to say,without a•ljeurnment or any thing rise. flaws ever,the interesting filet is,the ex:lt:Won itself ; and it is se ry certain that if M.Manuel could be expelledbysentiments uttered by him in debate, the House would soon become unanimous' for that, if necess try, the majority west& expel the tilinority.—Vet, our Chamber of Deputies, or, rather, the Deputies of who and what one need not par ticularly describe, hold that they have the same power. They can cell to order ; they can sake down words ; they • can send their members to the Tower; and we would beg to !snow how this differs at all from what hes been dotty with regard to Menu I 80, what we wish to point , out to Our readers is, the agitation which a thing of this sort cauees in France; and how clear a proof that aeltao lion in the opposition is not all a sham. That it is !, rot a sham opperition from the beginning to the end. That it is not a farce played off to deceive and: / cheat th t• people. That some of the Nlembere have some ,4 honesty its them at any rate ; that it is not two seta et I men; ow on the tight anti tins rubes on Ile loft, certfiste on a struggle for the power of plundering the previe.— This much. at any rate we may say, of the Wine k Chamber of Deputies. After they had I voted M. Ma- nuel's expulsion, the ?resident baited kim to withdrue. Manuel said lie would yield only to force. The. National littera was called in to drag him out. After some re- 1, iii••ustretire made by him to the National (Iliad, Natiunal Giterd refueted to exervlse three upon The gen d'orinerie carte called in, who at last taxed Lint by the cog:a, and dragged him out of the Aar this, great agitation appears to have prey Idea in 4. Paris. Att t, certainly, the adventure is well ettkaLited to t: ice rise to eotnetldng of importance. It is well • kolowo that our forcing the Bourbons upon the Frii.ch, Las made the French nation detest us. It will gladly j •in even the Bourbon. in any thing ealculaterl to it-' jure or humiliate England ; but it will Out jo:u the ‘. Itnerl e ue• iu desoroyine its own liberty and property. An %Aver of the Nation ml Ward consinenicated hi: o:dera the Serge tnt of the Guard who was milli hit,' ill sue h alt ; the sergeant eu.nmunieate•l the order to the turn the men rifeaed to obey! Upon wbi.tli the member' on the l , ti side %..4 the House c.ieal out iirftro! braro!" and well they might ! All France and every free man upon the face of the earth ought to Cr,' not it bravo!" This little %recurrence shows the disposition of the nhole.inis titan. It was a brave a^t on the part of this; sithliyra lit I we'. and rnigl tor& and gnat it ru ~.~ ~.~, ►, w the F t his t the that• q•ti'r c•ke Jima and ai m•r: will wad cry that the . y aud ?nue abut pag itig itpo VI 441 par ceri IP LL • NA of