The Statesman. — London, England, 1818-05-01 00:00:00

ff '.f • .rt . •Y : y,: l• . 4-. i a: • , •I • s .• 4. i I 111 r. I.YITELTON expressed his satisfaction at 1 10 intentions announced h, the Honourable Gentle. Than, who had thereby anticipated a recommendation lb hick he was about to make. in his opinion the affi. davit in question was a :grievance to the whole ser vice, and he was utterly at a loss to conceits on what principle it way maintained. Mv. BENSON contended, that the claim of the Offievra art the ltoyal Artillery Drivers was a claim pi' justice. Althoo4h it was net nasally stated in their Commissions that they morel° be allowed to re. tire on foil pay, such was the distinct understanding . as the seljPri, in support oT Which assertion the lion. . Gent. reed a. letter from the late Doke of Ricbmoad, who had established the corps. • •Mr. CALCRAFT vdmitted, that the Others in qtrearlen bad nothing to complain of, sod that in his oploion his Hon. Friend's propovition could not be tesintaioed. Mr. BENNEI'T made s short reply, is which hal utealn dwelt inn the merits of the Gentlemen who trint -1 thltNalbje . AN of his motios, and contended that they witretritethled . to the advantages be wished to procure tor them. The motion was thee negatived without a division. ALIEN ACT. • Lord CASTLEREAGH, is consequence of the 'thinness of the House, postponed, until Tuesday, his mottos ter ; leise ip bring is a Bill to roue, the Alien Act. - Sir C. MONCK °Noised limo to brie; in a Bill , to olttv the epplicatiou of such Loss, penalties, and forfeitures es were incurred by %ropers Of the High. trays and Inhabitants of Parishes for say neglect of ado', in regard to the Repoirs daub Highways / 42c, SETTLEMENT OF POOR. Mr. S. BOURNE said, that in rising to move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Lira of Settle• silent of the Poor, he bad not, in so doing, acted en r" Ms own opinion, but solely eider lb. authority of the Report of the Committee on the Poor Lays, made in the last Session. He geed not remind the Nouse, that the first law respectini the Settlement of the Poor'was passed in the time of Qom Elizabeth —the first law that conferred a power of removing certain descriptions of peepers to the place of their birth, or last settlement. That law. Otilleined on. altered for near a century, till the 13th and . 14th Charles 11. From reading the Reports of the time, and the opinions of the Judges, it seems to Unbent it-matter of doubt, what time was motility, tinder the former Statute, to gain a settlement. • The letter Statute was the basis of the present Liw of Settle. 'dent. It confined labouring persons to their • awn parishes—than which nothing could lie a greater encroachment on liberty, or more oppressive. It de clared a legal settlement to be gained by birth or re sidence, service or apprenticeship for forty days; but empowering the Overseers to remove all intrud. ing within that time, if likely to become chargeable, Widest they settled in a tenement of the yearly value of 101. The Statute of 1 James 11. obliged the per. son settling to give notice in writing to the Parish Officer, before a settlement could be acquired ; but that law had not been acted on. Bat the evils and hardships of the Statute of .Charles 11. were so great, that it was deemed proper to introduce the Bth and 9th William lii. to alleviate them, and by it poor persons were permitted to psis into any pariah, on producing a certificate to the Overseer of that parish, of settlement in another ; and wert not romoveable till they were actually chargeable.— The law remained in this state till the year 1795, when Bdward brought in a Bill which was passed into a law, and a law of more bent consequences to the lower orders than any emceed for a very long period. It alerted alit Ms person shookd be removed till he became actually cherueahle. it delivered the poor man from the demi/don of Parish Officers. Bot notwithstanding the improvemeat, the Law of Settlement was still in save points extremely defective. The moment a labourer became entitled to relief, he could not properly receive it, if he was not in his own parish. The moment a man became infirm or diseased, he was to be removed to his own parish, In perhaps distant part of the kingdom, when least able to bear a removal; that was one of the evils of the ezisting law. Brides, it was en infinite source of litigation— s!! the questions arising on it were questions both of law and fact. It had been said that slowly cases on the Poor Laws had been decided, that any new undecided point of law could not arise. The fact, however, was not so • new points were constantl• being referred to the Court of King's Bench. The questions of fact were innumerable. Last year there were no less than 4700 appeals from Quarter Ses sions to the Court of King's Bench. The holdieg a tenement worth 101. a•year constituting a right , settlement, was also a fertile source of disputed eases -..as were also service and apprenticeship. What be said was taken from lb* Report of last Sessloo.. , But litigation was not the predominant evil—the great paramount one was, that a person might be re moved, the instant he became chargeable, to a part ici a remote part of the kingdom, where, when be , covered his health, be might be quite amebic to earn subsistence, merely because he bappeoed to have gained a settlement in the latter in early life. The country was now generally sensible of the inconvc niences of the law, and earnestly desired an alters. • tion in it ; but to take away the Law of Settlemeni altogether, would be to mistake the mode of applj ing a remedy. It could not be required, that one parish should be obliged to support all the poor that might flock to it, and it would introduce a system vagrancy. A pelletal fund had been recommended by persons who bad bestowed considerable 'Wootton to the subject, end might be supposed qualified form a correct judgment on it. He could not agi with them in thinking such a plan practicable. would encourage the practice of freed, through titi tires of heasaaity-a4 national food was impessil' e be so applied. The Veer must be ultimately Washed , to the psr . isliss whirs they wars sallied - to relief.— If this title were to be established by birth, ' valid, le a few years, pat as end to nearly all gatiest—bet them, it wesid be most prepaid in evil already complained of--and this **l against it was completely &Aim 711. claim they coned cease to, was dente. The first Act, making etaidenia's IWO settlement, required it to sem* to thou.'''. it was worth ths,coosidsralion of the to attain the object in view this was not tv . —•- "--- • . . ..•-. .----....• ---., 4.,:-• ....- •••• . 1 " . - - • - - ..- ", . • , • , - • '-f •-s. . - -7644 ' , • . . ~! • .' --•-) ) . ._, - TH PI S'IrATEgMA N. . _ __ .. . _________ ...______ ________:___ _ simplest plea thatasuld now be trileptitd. Owe ed. Eagle • *-' bee tine bent 4 or t y. a l dl eisitd psi - ri l e y de o . I:o4)FilSrlitafrol t veslar it "'Pail take reate urieleisaba a . . . t o gills" i za e 40 : It • Ito 46 . - iii le n t pi a ci 'hi, i . l lt the VOW, tor. 1204004 , and, stelebanb wed . "owls ; every elephant has two b ' ho s 1 , ob r oja bi ll Um mark hided from Adjust propoftlon• - • lafteleera• and eleert * easels out. Of os there ars • iter • firnilsensts+, lionenefti• Aid' not regeirs Administration, iti• l3 re , dtilii ,soin . 37 Amite preemst, a fog ilhom)hees ere V) ter. ! "1 11 ,-it t pik r o the a i l :'- a igi l Ug' . rePflrigig hinl o! e t ' i n n ts ts , on ; ev e er ij o hase gro i om t , lll 4se r tr i er t te irgli p ' rt tW vi ° de ltt g e r e a n s c s i : c rr on et staa keed t esdote as absseer rrept .tion ed residence of three eot sz yr i zT at it g ievour io.oool ll 4 o4 l o4l l l o tax the „ p a s si o n bad much increased, these alone *llolllot to 1,400, besides 120 en to d r . e i : 0 30 days without being chargeable on another perish, besogiveo, though . and without basing committed a what. But it did ii well Oche Embattled Church as of other descrip- mess, and 900 for the Hastier to supply • the pr a ,L, not gooier a right of settlement acquired in that way doss. Ills sees happy that.** Chancellor if the Es. eions; 111 a 11,161. oar regilletat alone, about . .:3,54j0 • • to paean under the v 1,4 16 yetre% It slap wept . 66 The Mar oil of tto stav ' • -- . Chequer had in Wand; he had seen Dublin, followers, besides their wives, children, &c. q g r els in a mow to suspend the removal i ef the peeper In case of air. the most Iteetnifal capital of the world, nowilegreded peal, till the appeal .was decided. , It might bethought by the lobs onto Nubility and Geste , / who once flied princely style ; he ban a l .0 elephants, a bold measure, but kegs no ineovstloh. If he wok its palaces; he had soon the wreschedness and misery 'camels, besides state elephants splendidly accoutred, Marquis. deol " So n m ies e of th e w s in error , he was in error with great authorities. Mr. which porrailed there, and he frosted the Right Hon. bariog t s h o pi pe t r r b ei s;: ti ai t l o ve th r e h Pitt and Mr. Whitbread bah both eadeasoormil to. Gentleepte tirield do justice to the toreutry. backs- There are now actually 36 Rojo, ci d in : haves dress et the same nature introduced Into -a" . The c..CIA,NCELLOR of the It ICH EQU ER dependent Chieftains of various ranks on their sty Bill that posed the House; end pa this 'abject a said, Porlanteat had not been guilty of Injustice on to pay still higher aotherity, Dr. Burnt bad said, that itarie 'fvelatiti l ialie ram in question was sot charged to indeed, are already ice camp. The Governor-General, desirable to bring back the right to settlement ward' .the 'Calidated •Fund, nor did Ireland, since the in fact, isoo," now as great a man as ever the C rest years' residence ; it was disenchant end most natural' Union Of the . Exchequers two years ago, p a y two. Mogul w stendard. Experience since,that was written strongly seteitteenths to the charges of the Empire. In eve j' _...____l_____ __________:—.. _ , 1 1 .•-__—_ _ . 41 . 1 proved-the:troth of it. H would 'accerdinelY Moire MI% from-. 1810 to the .preient, 50;0001. bad beet( sv: 1 , 111'6 e AND Ltrias:—Huliday in the Public 045 en. • for lesiva to bring l ot Bill to amend the Laws of Set . gr anted for the re p air of Cherchea it; Ireland till the _ tleenent:of the 'Poor. - last year, when 30,0001. oat, was granted. If there ____, The question having been put, was any need for new Churches for the congregations, TI-LE . STATESMAN N. , Mr. ATKYNS WRIGHT asked a question rola. which , he was ha ppy to bear, wore en overflowing in,. ,:._ _ . tive.to the 60 days allowed for absence during the Ireland, he had no doubt Parliament would provide ' LONDON: 1 three years. . for that necessity. le , n w o r a r i e rra g o s , „ :Air 1,1118 1 . n I owe, on. Mr. S. BOURNE said, that 111'60 days were not The Rouse having resolved itself into a Committee, . I necessarily consecutive , . He had forgot to mention a Sir WM. SCOTT et some length, and with much ----aew---_ 1 provision of his Bill, eeteting to the settlement Oar- earnestness, ohjected toithe' c: i likse aothorizie,T, 12 min \ s ._ _ . . last night, , . maks-their mestess might frelpentlf.eheep their householders in any .tetrillr, 1 1, 01 : no' aid Al " of‘lit'r 1 amounting to defe Excnsooen'a Financial scheme is found i s .. at. Another part of the CIIANrE L ; ca r abode. The role laid down for their se; 00ilrefore, well-disposed persons,' r . a nd wi t h the consent of the . was, that when a savant lived' three years with a Bishop; to erect a Church or Chapel theiein to which Loa of the master,.who often shelved his residence during that they should have right of presentation for three turns. p r r i ac ßk ti a ca n bl e e rh l e i. s Te d p e l p a o n si f t o o r f d s e t m o a c i k i , o pendittgfrotmhe preten ce theConii. r period, be should acquire a settlement in that parish Eje considered that this claus e ; b y giving the power try . where his master had resided for thelast two or three of building and preser v i n g a propertrin a Church to of security, far the issue of small note., large notes, according to his wise project, requiting nn' • i months of the above time. persons out of a parish would endanger the rights o f urity, is abandoned, " for the present," in Si After IMMO conversation between Sir M. W. Rm. patrons, the tranquillity of the Church, and might , LEX end Mr. S. Booing, • facilitate the introduction of 'votaries. He wished- sec t Sir C. MONCK said, that the existing Law of Set-. these clauses to be formed into • distinct Bill, as they hope that the next Session, or some future period yet ' r tletnent having been long known and awed' aponotod might endanger the whole measure by being objected unscanned, will be more favoinable for putting ii: i beep roulette' tateiliar,coeld net beet oeceswept awey to elsewhere. If not he should oppose them. into practice. Much es the country, in the (Tibiae i without, greet injustice. The 11111 made a ti t l e Sp The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER of Mr. VA/01TUE; required some measure of se. curie to check the superabundant issue of Bank r settlement vitiated by crime committed during the time defended the clause at considerable length, and coo- . necessary to coustitete the right. He did not see why tended that the Church ought to be allowed to avail eento o took s this ri ' 1 il the wickedness of an individual should cause a great itself of the aids of private lib eralit y , and the evils Pleaspsetrh,atn tw o the Night to cent g e h a tllonour frtaboleGhn his G entlemen feelers , injustice to be done to another parish, where he sub - anticip ated, were not likel y to arise. ikel • eeqaently might live without any guilt. • Mr. Wttorrm y subject. It was the caution of a wily Minister, mi.Ey opposed the clause as l der a prospect of great ch anges , unwilling rashly le r Lord CASTLEREAGH said, the Honeerable to make serious inroads on the rights of the Esta- offend his old end best fr iends. But so resolute has r Gentleman was porsointearteztraordinery 'course in bushed, Church. If this proposition were to be been the stand of the private Bankers against this . animadverting on the 13141 before it was brnugbt in.— pressed, he hoped it would be made the subject of ✓ It was fir mere regular to defer his remarks till the a separate Bill, that the present measure, which was ✓ Bill were printed, and under the consideration of the so generally approved, might not be clogged with proposed overwhelming monopoly of the Government . 4 House. that which a pp eared so objectionable. Bank, and so terrifying have been the apprehensions to the c l ime. . Sir S. ROMILLY conceived that this Bill would Mr. B. BATHURST objected be a great improvement on die esisting law. The The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER prospective consequences of a General Election , . di ffi culties with respect to proving settlements were said, the twelve householders would first certify that ~ an endless source of litigation and of mischief to the they hid , the means of building a Church. Th e all the faces of the Country Bankers turned against e unhappy paupers. It had been said, as the pauper Bishop must then be applied to. who would no the. Ministerial Candidates, that the poor Finance .. must be maintained somewhere, the affair of settle. doubt take care to ascer t a in that the a pp licants were Minister has already rapidly 66 shrunk into his give .op th e h meat persons , merely concerned parish and parish. But a well disposed and possessed of.. auffid mew," and 'is fain to ent' p very essence of the it more erroneous opinion never was maintained. Was property in the parish. • , • project that was to milks assurance doubly sure.— '. dit nothing to a matt to be removed from all his friends Mr. PEEL most cordially concurred With what O and convections to a distant part of the country? Ile had been said against this clause, and meld see no Ile cannot do without the friends of the system.- * had known a journeyman printer, on the ground of reason why it should not be sepereted.froni the Bill. His 'miler wings will pot bear to be clipt. He tes. y tieing likely to become chargeable to a parish , r e- Dr. PHILLIMORE supported the dames, bet not even spare a feather,. out of them. Corraptise y moved to the eatramity of the kingdom. That evil bad no objection to its being separated from the pre- 40°4 die for went o f food, even the Church, with Fs was, indeed, done away with by the Act of the 35th sent measure,. end mode tisCiebioeloof mother Bilt• . Its Itt.l itionat sopporteand conveniences, were these re of the King. But was it nothing to a elan, because Sir M. W. RIDLEY eppirsed . the clause. and . _ from Bloats or accident, he was temporarily charge- thought it O u g h t . to b e made the sob j ect of a separate allia -. to but ready; ctou!tknot . save her fabric from de- 5, able to a parish, that he should be removed to a B ill. . coy, - without the ald.s.llsat supply her secret power 4 1 place where there was no demand for the sort of Lord CASTLEREAGH defended the clause, con- and lead her lighter wings to ceptivaie the eye of p.. labour with which he was acquainted ?As far as be ce i v i n g that it would a ff ord the Bishops an spportn. mercenar y c r ed u lity. The CHANCELLOR of the ty understood the Right Hon. Gentleman, his Bill oily of preventing the admissicorif any persons into EXCHEQUER. never seriously meant to deprive him - ' at would be oat of the greatest improvements on the the establishment who were not likely to support its self of any part of this system, and, therefore, recto ra law which could be made. doctrines. - ho . Mr. LOCKHART said, litigation at Qua rt e r Set - The House divided- (Nisbet; his toessore, we dare says with little reg ret. I sloes with respect to settlements, had greatly in. For Ike clause - - 22 It is, however, a circumstance fraught with infinite A gain-t it . - 47 . in creased of late. Perhaps the effect of the proposed Majority for the rejection of the dame -lb • mischief to the country, and •disgracefel to the Ath at Bill would be to throw a greater burden on the towns On our re-admission to the gallery ano th e r division ministration that attempts to govern it, whe n its ~ 1 0 t than on the coentry. was celled for, but it was agreed without a division Ministry is thus floundering in the midst of confasioa, 111 . , Leave was then given to brig& is the Bill. that the Chairman should report progress and ask be LOAN BILL. leave to sit agai n. from ('Re c absurd project to another, and an devils and carry no plan of practical utility to the Public. la Mr. %OGDEN brought up the Report of the above The Cotton Factories Regulation Bill was read a ar Bill, to which the CHANCELLOR of the Esculents. third time end passed. • The old tactics for ascertaining the probable soma - s t eell moved two additional clauses. They were agreed to. The farther consideration of the Reports upon the of theilankers' Bill seem to have been again resorted le c previous to the debate of last night. A Meeting k • Mr. MARTIN wished to know (rose the Right Select Vestry arid Poor Laws Amendment Bills wan ..- of Hon. Gentleman whether persons would be allowed put of until to-morrow- - was held on Wednesday at Lord LivtateooLts, Shea 'es to make their full subscriptions in &chequer Bills ? Thellake of Cambridge's and the Duchess of Cum- th e b eat o f t he Committees An'allusion was Made last night by Mr. Waist pulse was found not to answer. Ills If they were, whether, on their paying the fall berlsn d 's Annuit y Bills p assed through et, amount imm edistely, they would be entitled to dia. and were ordered to be reported to-morrow.. fly count-and at what time they would be pet in pos. The blab Court-liouses Bill was read a second to the Convention lately communicated to the Freer 'be session of their stock ? . . time, and ordered to be r.- - ommitted in-morro w . Chamber of Deputies by the D u k e de-Ricticu Da su . es* The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER On the motion of Lord CASTLEREAGH, it the subject of the Claims upon France, with the ee• said, that there was nothing in the Bill to prevent wa s ordered, that the House should to-morro w re- of o b ta i ning view su tras i Buthis Lordship de - oformation respecting it from • of subscribers depositing the full amount of their solve into a Com mittee u p on the Slave Tiede Con- from Lord CAtTLEREAOH to subscriptions, immediately, in &chequer Bills ; but Tendons. . c sae they woild not be allowed discount--Lfor, on no pre. ' Mr. LUSHINGTON obtained leave to bring in dined giving any positive information on this heed, hat oleos occasion bad such a principle been recognised. a Bill to alter the law with respect to allowances to not having as yet received any official information of 1 e• - • With raped to the third point, he had merely to Glass Manufacterers, and to exempt from penalties, the event, though from his official situation he mkt On observe, tilt the stock would bb delivered - as soon as in certain case., persons not licensed to manufacture not but be fully acquainted with the matter. RN ' re- the forms of the Bank could be complied with. lass. " risk Mr. MARTIN understood, that, if the amount coPtatcwr. • howeveri ezpressed his belief that some sod Coto t Tendon had been concludes., 0- •.• rte were paid in Eschequer Bills, interest would be al. G Mr. LUSHINGTON :presented . as Pet Won from 1 n • lowed op to the month of August. Rest Fenner , of Paternoiter.soor stating the grin. . A •.,s , The motion for the renewal of the Alice Bill was i ay* The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEII.,- and% to which Publishers 1114iti litilleCt under the po,tponed till Tuesday neat, on account of the : the 66 Interitit will be allowed up to August , sod no present Law of Copyright, sod preying redress.- Mamma of the Neese; but the new Poor Laws' lye' longer." The Hon. Member (*stooped his wish and, hope that . • - era- The Bill was then ordered to be read the third something would be done upon this subject, to reme. Bill suffered no impediment from the same objection; , wet time to.aorrow. dy the grievances complained of. . • f rom w hence it is fair to p resume, that the refagets . Or BREWERS. The Petition was referred to the Committee upon of other countries are objects of greater interest to • one Mr. BARCLAY wished to know wilt a Learne the Copyright Bill. 0 as thee the Poor, and the rights and properties of tht ii that Gentleman opposite (Mr. Lockhart), en the Re.d Adjourned at half-past Twelve o'clock. . majority of our own. . 0 aof port of the Committee to whom the Petition relative - -- Idol to the Brewers of the Metropolish had been referred, INDIA A curious discussion also arose on the New C hen* 0011 would be laid before the House. He understood that -am-- Bill ; on one Clause of which, the Coaocer. Loo el It• some delay had taken place, in consequence of the The following is an estract of a private letter re- Excntostica was o pposed Sir WILLIAM Scot'' , II by- " mired from so Officer in India. It is dated Petitioners not being ready to prove their case. If gal IV 0 It that l ure the fad, it was a curious circumstance, - rare enough circumstance. The Clause in goes " Right Bask of the itITFIR, to camp, went• to empower twelve well-dispoted perm. t • no' thst . persetwo should prefer a charge against a body of • October 27, 1817. er ' is to remodel& individuals, which they were not, at tbra "WO are now on oor mareb-supposed, in the build a Cherch, and appoint a Minister, with c aged time they Madill, prepared to substantiate. first instance, to be directed against the fortress of sent of the Bishop. This Clause Sir WILLIAN ef.- Mr. LOCKHART said, he could not state bow Gwalior, belonging to Scindia. The greet object of Score opposed, attending to disturb the trinquillity that soon the Report would be produced, 'because be did the campaign, however, is the entire annihilation of of the. Choral, and to infringe . out the rights i f ad- pet at present know hem the Petitioners meant to the Pinderrees, a race of plundering scoundrels who Patron", ; and the clause was, in coneequencr• re' a des proceed in establishing diekellegations. have been annoying us for many years. jetted. The term " well - diaposed , " u,stands for sties CHURCHES BILL. " T h e whole of the arm y now in the field con- many good qualities ie the Mitristerial Dietitian,' seat Ois the audios that Os Hesse shield resolve it. sifts of 'lO divisions, each of about 10,000 men. bat though twelve " pod men and true," with e a. • nu. lea leash into a Coostalitee ell the Church Bending We are advancing from the three Presidencies to• assistance of the Bishop, may do much in other r' is Sol Bilk - ' wards the - same point with the finest army ever per. specie. the CHANCELLOR of the EacncottEß'S"i'au I t SPA Sir F. FLOOD said , by this Rill, which was hap beard of In India. Ti. Governor -Generat Is , as to their capability of building a church, and Or '. mow diageted to an erreellent object, a .millien of looney with our division, which •is • about 13,000 StrOhg, lig their own Minister is not admitted in th e E ‘ • a sad was to be given oat of the Consolidated Feed of wi t h -10 plass of cannon.. The camp followers of clesiastical Court to be :abodes. • . ' ; i '