The Statesman. — London, England, 1815-04-11 00:00:00

TIE STATESMAN. i si rd termed Marshal :viurat. The expenres the minutest investigation. The 0 0001. he had re „i e ns ! Cathcart had been enormous, both in his ceived was less than he ought to have been paid, and iss l diplomatic ca;steity. From the Array had he not had that sum advanced to him, he would i. or.i „, s e n aries, in the course of 1814, he received have lost by the service two or three thousand and from the Civil List, as AmbassaiLtr, pounds of his own private property. In the case of .. ID I n the last three quarters, the charge cos Captain Usher, who, for conveying Botaiparte to account was 1 - 2,4011.; so that in the Elba, was said to have been effete(' so small a sum, n i• 3 year and three quarters he had received that he had not thought proper to accept of it, the v tahan. of the poblic money. Lord Stewart proceedings of the Admiralty had been regulated by so d from the Army Eatraordinaries in the the scale of which he had spoken. That scale did s! 4, le,:1171. amid from the Civil List, 10,7.261. got provide for a case like that which had occurred ; ! l's last three quarters a sum that made (he did not expect for this it would be censured for ,!,„i e ch ire no less than :27,0001. The lion. improvidence), but by that it was settled, that s aer professed the highest respect for his Lord- for the conveyance of a Crowned Head, where s ad regimed that his name appeared in these the voyage was performed within a week one Details. Ire also required further in- hundred pounds should be paid to the Captain. The Vol; , l i e: , on o lilt account 70001. had b e e n g i ven t o t i t l e o f B onaparte having been recognized in the'f reaty ;let tar or Hesse. He was surprised not to find of Fonthinbleau, Captain Usher had been directed to is ! elate of Wellington in any of the papers sup- receive him as a Crowned Head. He (Captain Usher) had, is hen he came home, been directed to make Lord CASTLEREAGH observed, that next to what charge he thought proper, but had declined Is, wish as much as possible to reduce the expences making any, and under such circumstances the Ad d the cauntry, was his aesiety to afford every ex- miraliy could do no more than give directions for him rs ,„ it i on that could be given. In order to be the to be letiunierated according to the scale of regule ,,,„„., concise, he should not travel out of his way to lions whisli had been adopted. IVilh respect to a ally of the political topics to which the Hon. charge is Welt had been preferred against the Admiral- G ss e e man had endeavoured to provoke him. In ty for not suffering sailors who had returned from a these accounts, he recommended that Hon. long voyage to have sufficient time on shore to spend )i ss iber should look at them fairly, and not for the their money, he admitted, that in some instances this • o f a temporary triumph, by adding year to might have occurred • but the established role was, rea r, ealher together an enormous sum that might ; w hen a ship returned from three years service to pay ;:orm those who were no t acquainted with the expo- the men a third of the money due to them, and allow IVith respect first, to Lord Aberdeen, the ; them from a fortnight to a month's leave of absence pm annexed to his name had been paid to be em- to see their friends. This practice which it was p s,, e d in seconding a favourable feeling in the Low feared would promote desertion, he was happy to c s sirries, but es only 3 or 40001. of it were ac- say, had produced a contrary effect. It had greatly lin es expended, the remainder was paid into the ' tended to prevent that enormous desertion which was (s,, el issariat of Lord Li nedoch's force.—The formerly common. The men almost always returned eseool. drawn by Lord William Bentitick had been ; when their leave of absence expired, to claim the re s„,:soyed in raising the levies which were engaged mainder of their money, and after they came back, ltsly. The lion. Member had raised a ghost of they were generally allowed someday' to be onshore , nee:,, when lie spoke of the subsidy to the Elector before they sailed again. o Hose, which, in truth, was the payment of an Mr. WHITBREAD thought the scale on which old debt. The Duke of Wellington's name was not the officers were paid for trantporting persons of ;„ I le. accounts, because his charge came under the I . rank rather too low than too high. The case of Lict. With regard to the money paid to Lord . Captain Usher was one of peculiar hardship. He cosort and Lord Stewart, the Hon. Member had not had the least information beforehand of the ssouSl recollect that there was to be deducted from charge to be entrusted to him; but while cruising in it tde six of 9.5 per cent. and the immense toss of the Mediterranean was called on to convey Bonaparte N early 40 per cent. by the exchanges. Upon the ex. and his suite, which he performed to the satisfnc rises of hi, Noble Relation, his Lordship was pro- tion of Napoleon and all the Commissioners who edril ith accounts that proved that only 28901. had I accompanied him. When Bonaparte landed at Elba, tern charged on the personal account, the rest being he sent to the Captain's Steward to pay all the ex ist rariaus necessary expellees of the important mis- pences incurred by Captain Usher on his account, lle was himself a witness of the enormous . but that officer politely declined, and sent on shore sure that it was necessary for Ambassadors to pay 1 , ell the stores he bad, Bonaparte being at the time for their table and establishment abroad. I very destitute of many articles. When, on his re- Lord I'ROBY maintained, from the experience of turn to England, he applied to the Admiralty for a 10 wars seta ire, that the Commissariat Department payment of his expences, he was answered, that it vis, conducted under a system of abominable pro- was supposed Bonaparte and his suite had paid their fesees. As an instance, he mentioned that in own expences. Captain Usher was indignant at this the usual price for the hire of a mole was half answer, which seemed to convey an imputation on a sells,' per day, the muleteer providing for himself his veracity, and wished to know on what authority asLI ;.Is beast, but the Commissariat was charged such a statement had been made ? and it turned out sult:e the sum, and besides had to maintain the ' to have rested on a memorandum of the Ilan. G. ettee awl the driver. [Hear hear tleutan opposite(Mr. Croker), which seemed to have Ale GORDON remarked on Inc extraordinary been made without any autherity whatever. He was diriereace in amount of the charges on the transport ; then desired to make out his account .;. This the re remit's' of dist on the face of the Estimates, gallant officer said he could not do—as indeed it was en I „;shed to know whether tits re was any cstab- impossible he should. He was then referred, and it Lard seherne, according to which those charges were , was there seen that he was entitled to 1001. which he ; caste. had been paid to Admiral Net. eantle, ! rejected as quite inadequate. lie trusted a fair re tie entestinithig persons of distincsioa in the Aesiatic, • muneratiou would be made to Captain Usher, for see tie suns of 020!. w.is mentioned as the charge :or , the expences incurred. If a larger sum were offered row:, %in , ' e Marshal Blucher and other plovers mere ly ' ; than he had expended, he doubted not it would be fees Dover to (Aide. On the other baud, sosniall I itaiirtmatly_rejected. stun, he understood, •.av e.ined to Captain [...slier for the expences of ctiovoyiut; Bonaparte to Et,a, tl,st refusce. it. T;ie lit•nouralile Gentle r:au ulso wis'..ed for an rxpl:inat:oil of the sum of Itt:".. stated to be paid the captors of Dematai r. CHOKER explained. Mr. LUSH NGTON snid, the snm Captain Usher would be entitled to receive for Napoleon and his soil.. would have been 2001. Mr. !TREAD observed, there were forty sad h;sse: v il4 o , f.ar slaves delivered over to the use of C. , :crimicilt. Also, a sum paid to Colouel for extroordioary services. This last sum, h; the sum voted to Lord Burghersh, for cx t services, which were of a political tia- I.;!r. carat., he thought improperly utoler the head of Extiaor.l.ioaties., As to the expellees of our nine prr.ons in the suite of Napoleon. Mr. CROIiER said, Officers high in rank had submitted to a minute investigation of their accounts ii cir.,ilar case 4. Mr. BARHAM said. the gallant Captain had felt hurt at having hi word doubted, and at being called on to make out a bill. A.l , ;n.sulois st Vien..a, he thought these persons After a few words from Mr. CROK ER and Sir 11. 5' n',!ti be enabled to iu a manner suitable to Ilieir ONTG OM E 111", without. injury to their private fortunes, kit i; remained to he explained w by we had at the Cl'"Ares9 four or five Anwhassndors, instead of one. be said, th.ft they were Ambassadors to the C. , urts :►:►oce Sovereign; were at the Congress r L atin . .3, but this supposition► was contradicted by Co- fief that their had all signed the Declarritints of 1 :•...11::us of CA. 33th of Alarcli, a hieh, but as Nli. Lord CASTLER EAGH said, that the only wish could he that Captain Usher should have a proper reimbursement of his expellees. HP way most desi. rous that such a reimbursement should be made ; but it would be a great assistance to the judgment of the Gosernmentif Cotaiu Usher would state in the, most general way the sum which he supposed him,elf to have expended. - ors at the Cortgosi. they could not have signed. Lod CAS - ELEM.:A(III said, the Ambassadors asq tublod itt Vienna, the country had a claim let .P.y sets ice: they cot.;;I perform. Lord Cathcart "' Amba , wnlor to Itussi.i, Lord Aberdeen to -\ .usHa, Lord ‘Veiltilgtota to the Congress, and Lord t:%o;a:ty (114%:,,, , performed . the high mission on 1411; e : ; 1 .. ' , m t out with great honour to himself MI 4 4 %1 t 1 to the liubltc ser% ice) was tl:e only = l ;'° ,l4. e-er who wit!. oot there in the regu:ardis- Mr. WHITBREAD felt satisfied, since the ques tion had been put in a point of view agreeable to Captain Usher's feelings, that no further difficulty would he found. ; Mr. %V. SMITE! made some observations on the inns charged for the transport of specie. Ile ob. served that 20001. w•ss paid to Captain Packer for transport of specie to Passages. The payment of uch a large sum would give rise to favouritism in the choice of the person to undertake the task. i'• ..;•• of ;:is dufv. lie could assure the (ion. Gen- - Mr. CROKER: vindicated the grant of a certain 1. " 1, :, ti::lt ilit'lc tad not been one too many there, - c um to Naval Officers for the convey ance of public "i''e he (I. , )rd Castlereagh) was at Vienna. Their oricy, in consequence of the risks they incurred rt'smre had alf.rded him trt Ilegod.o c j„ 1 , 5 o f th e ~,,gr e si were going on, and had roof of this loss the Honourable Gentleman quoted b.< - 4, taund of tm.ch importance in the discussions the case of Captain Owen, who some time since lost which had taken place on t:te numerous topics which erot only his freight, but a considerable portion of nere I !:ere to lie taken into consider:Pion. this private property, to make good some public mo- Mr. CIIOKER, in answer to the question respect- hey which he was employed to convey and happened jag ti:e sums pa.d to :rival Wicers in the instances '_to lose. rsaich had bee:, referred :0, said t!t , :se matters were' Mr. W. SMITH could not conceive the principle "%o w hooll by a sc a l e hich it had been thought wise :,..4tipon which a Naval Officer should be remunerated lo atoin. in Isl 2, which ba d heel, printed, and which fitt the public expence, for doing that which as a ser a''' iii the hands of every naval Officer. In this !pant of the public he was obliged ; and as to the '''ale, in one column, the regulations were set forth, !idea suggested by the Hon. Gentleman, he thought ili,v.i ag t h e remunerat i on to be made to the Otlicer,4tAagtg.ktflockery to suppose that Naval Officers, lrcooling to the length of the voyage, and in the i could be rendered responsible for the enormous sums "'her the slim to be paid on account of the rank of sometimes committed to their care. cite party to be conveyed. This scale, if any thing, I Mr. BARING observed, that it was a novel prac lie was itickned to think was fixed at too los a rate, tice to allow our naval officers to charge such com bat it war under: trod the Officers were to have no mission as they thought proper for the conveyance of tirrat ; all that uas to be secured to them was, that the money of merchants from foreign ports, no such ''Y L•hould not be ruined. Front looking at this. practiie having prevailed during the former Ameri 'erY Commander so employed could tell as well can war. The Ifnn. Gentleman animadverted upon '`hut he was to receive, as the Board of Admiralty several items in the accounts on the table, with re iod, 1)y whom it was to he paid. The sun paid to gard to our colonial expenditure, In which profusion ;•-.l(lutital Fremantle had not been paid tie af;er appeared to run riot, especially in the Commissariat. This profusion he illustrated by referring to the case of the Cape of Good Hope, in which the allowance to Mr. Hill, of the Commissariat, for the current I year, was 173,0001. although for the last year it wits only 69,0001. and for the preceding year 43,0001. : also to the cases of Ceylon, Goree, Sierra Leone, and the Leeward Islands. The allowance to Mr. Baker, for Jamaica, for the present year, was 5t)0,0001. al though for the la s t y ear it was only 150,0001. and for the preceding year 58,0001. These cases he thought sufficient to show the necessity of enquiry by a Committee above stairs; and concluded by observ—' ing, that if our colonial expenses should be thus enormous, it would be quite impossible for the coun t try to supportHINGTON the system. Mr. LUS accounted for the excess stated by the lion. Member, by stating that it arose out of the discharge of debts incurred iu former years. Mr. GOULBURN followed on the same side. Mr. BENNETT remarked upon the necessity of investigating the grants to Sir B. Kennedy and Sir J. Duff. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER and ' Mr. GOULBURN explained. Sir M. W. RIDLEY noticed the sum of nearly 80001. charged for the creation of the late batch of Peers (comprising so many gallant officers), and among others of 1,5001. for the advancement of Lord Wellington to the title of Duke, together with 1401.' for the introduction of his Grace to the House of Peers. Upon what ground such a sum should be charged to the public, or the fees of such creation should be excessive, he confessed himself quite unable to account. To THE EDITOR or TIM STATESMAN. Stn,—Among the precious scraps of pialitical justice that we occasionally meet with from Yientirti may be mentioned last, but unt least, the furious anathema against NAPOLEON, which puts beyond the pale of social protection and law, the Prince, who; beyond any that history can boast, is restored to his throne on that surest and most legitimate foundation— the choice of his people. So tinani , ntioS, in deed, have been the French people in his favour, that, If any thing would tend to throw a shade over the crimes and excesses of one revolution, it would be the temper and moderation with which the last has been effected. After this, what rational hope can the most sanguine of the BOURBONS indulge from a third trial of their popularity in France? Already lit two revolutions they have been discarded unanimously, but still they are not satisfied; and the last, conducted with mode ration, but firmness, is far more likely to show the real sentiments of Frenchmen respec!ing them, then when men's minds were in such a ferment as to be in. capable of a rational opinion. They have lately had a fair trial of their , trength, and if they have not impro• wed this to the best advantage, they have none to blame but themselves. Surely there never was • time more favourable for the experiment, or when more rational hopes might have been indulged for their soccess„ than after the extravagant ambition of the Emperor, After a few words from Mr. CORDON, ! who failing in his. wild schemes for the aggrandise- Lord PROBY said, that the Members of the Cori. ' m: i t of France, introduces a foreign army to the gates t missariat were, he understood, in the h a bit o f h e - ‘ of Paris,and then resigns in favour of the old dynasty. coming contractors themselves, and such a practice : S carce , however, has a twelvemonth el a psed, ere the was obviously calculated to give rise to gre a t a b use . The CRANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. o b- i deposed Emperor is recalled, and he s e cu re s hie sceptre served, that if any persons connected with th e Com i ins way so romantic as not t o be b e li eve d, were i t not missariat were guilty of such a practice they would be i so Ucil authenticated ; travelli ng by eas y s t a g es to obsiously guilty of a gross breach of duty. I his capital in an open carriage, and receiving the Mr. BANK ES supported the suggestion of ap. ( greetings of the people and of those very soldiers pointing a Committee above stairs to examine those , who had bean sent to oppose him; thus showing him- Accounts, and especially to enquire into the conduct of the Commissariat, for the Commission appointed to self, as he justly declares, the true Desi r ee a the act upon the Continent was not sufficiently compre. French nation. So great, indeed, was the joy ex. on his return, that the Allied S ov e r ei gns are heosive in its powers completely to answer the earl in pressed slew. The practice of frauds in this department was I determined to try the justice of his cause by the matter of public notoriety, which the return of almost ! ordeal of fire, and sword, nud Cossack pik es ; an d t.. all the Commissaries with large fortunes from thehose Cossacks are certainly m o st conven i en t f e l Continent seemed to place beyond dispute. It was lows for the princely office of cutting the throats of obvious that such men could not accumulate such so many millions, who have no crime but the lose of a rational liberty and a Prince of theirchoice. With ou t, fortunes from their mere pay and allowances, and he trusted that his Right Honourable Friend (the Chan- ' Sir, attempting to show the folly of thatsloctrine which cellor of the Exchequer) would see the necessity of preaches the unalienable and indefeasibl e r i g ht s o f complying with the public wish by instituting an en- ; Kings, a doctrine which, in this country, at least, is not admitted—without enquiring whethe r the T rea t y ,' quiry upon this subject. If any Gentleman should bring forward a distinct motion for the institution of of F . such an enquiry. the motion should certainly have ONAPARTE—or whether, under any circum as B ontainbleau has been broken by others as w ell his (Mr. B.'s) decided support, and he could not i stances, a breach of faith among Princes (i n w h om conceive that Ministers had any interest in resist- : the proverb says we should put. no trust) is so ver y ing it. uncommon, as to call for so signal a puni s hme n t, Mr. NEW NIA N I which a -in any histor acient or mod- rose to express hit entire appro. ! page any i.. )ry, ander'. Tern, wilt bation of what had fallen from the Hon. Gentleman decide—or whether lie is not at this moment the true who had spoke last, and being unaccustomed to and *if legitirnafrSolwreignitt lritiiet, and theiefore trouble the House, he only begged to add, he ai ;east beyond the reach of the law, and subject bad so frequently heard of the very profuse expendi- , to no tribunal, except on a breach of contract with his, tave of the Camtnissariat, that he hoped a Committee , people—it will be sullicient to feel the hopelessneis, would be np:itaitited for :tie purposes proposed by the if not the injustice, of any further attempt to im lion. Gentleman. 110 should not have trespassed pose either a sceptre, or a Government of ails' kind, on the time of the House but from a sense of duty on Frenchmen. It would be both vs isdom and po: to his country, i i which the intereit and character of (icy, therefore, for Loots the Desiree, like the un the Government were matetially concerned. ; fortunate JAMr.s 11. to relinquish all hopes of The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, an earthly Crown, in favour of one which will expressed his opinion that any Committee, appointed become him better, and is more ,likely to be for the purposes mentioned by the Hon. entleman, permanent than that he has lately lot.—By' would interfere with the proceedings of those who such conduct, he would have the admiratiatr of the were appointed to' audit the public accounts in the , thinking part of mankind, as well as of his own Peninsula. With respect to the large fortunes which country, which has never yet Withheld its testimony bad been accumulated by individuals, they were the from his private virtues. This would be an excellent natural consequence of the very huge expenditure comment on that thundering Manifesto from Vienna . ; which had taken place; hut lie did nut believe they And he would have the satisfaction of feeiing he had bad arisen in any degree from official abuses. ! done his best to secure the repose of Europe, which Mr. BARING contended that the examination would not interfere with the auditing of the accounts, and intimated his intention of mobing for a Com mittee on some future day. Lord PROBY said, that if the Chancellor of the Exchequer would compare the expellees of the Trench and the English Cinnmissariat, especially in the article of transport for troops, he would see good grounds for a serious enquiry. • The Resolution was then carried. is once more threatened to he a theatre of blood on his account, and in a contest too, which, even if successful, will be no permanent advantage to bk mily. Ile would not be the first Prince, who, under more favoured circumstances, has contented himself with the " ahem cum digallufr," which he might enjoy in perfection, and far I shioh h e seems better fitted than for a crown, at least in these turbulent limes. Selfish indeed most he that family, and miserable their politics, who, after the blood Upon the vote of 6,000,0001. being proposed for the service of the army In Great Britain and Ireland, A Mr. TIERNEY objected to the proceeding, as only a part of that sum could be accounted for et present. He wished that the Right Honourable Gentleman would consent to postpone a part, until ke could produce the necessary accounts. •• After a short conversation, the CHANCELLOR tf the EXCHEQUER assented, and took a vote for ,000,0001. only leaving the remainder to a future day. t The house then resumed, and the Report was Ordered to be received to-morrow. which has been already spilled for them during the last twenty years, are once more preparing 66 to wade through slaughter to a throne !"—to a throne which, if ever they reach, they will never be able to secure or enjoy! If Louis XVIII. should sue. ceed (a very doubtful conclusion) in enforcing once more his claim to tie French sceptre, it will be the second time he makes his triumphal entry into Paris over the dead bodies of his slaughtered countrymen ! And can it be by such means that the Bouttaosts will ever secure their succession to the French I.:mpire ? Is it probable, that a people so powerful and en lightened will be content with any government ex. ThsAvessed Taxes Bill was postponed to Mon fay nest.—Adjourued. cept that of a free and unbiassed erection ; that they will a second time digest the pill, however hand somely gilded, which is to he administered to them by the Patycc itzomr of England? With respect to outselves, Sir, I look upon it we are so infatuated, that nothing short of absolute de struction will cure us of our rage for war; however unjust or foreign in its relation to us. A nation overloaded with debt and taxes like ours, and but just escaped from an explosive contest, may he com pared to a sick man just returned from a tong jour. ney, to which he had been recommendpd bv his phy. sicians, with his nerves sadly shattered, and in other respects much worse than when he set out; who, at length, on reaching his home with difficulty, after being almost jJtied to death in the last sta4e, and beginning, to fanty himself a little comfortable, is again perstrded by the faculty to try the effect of a foreign cliro 442. Should we not conclude a man in such a situation a little crazy in mind ns well as body, any Ir. •: , ,er to take the adv'ets of a set of men, who, besides ha% ing emptied his p , c.cets of more than half their contents, and placed him on the verge of the wave, are shout to sr•cure him the quiet posses. sion of it? Yet such, Sir, are our Ministers! Such these prafessionnl gentlemen, who are tearing to ' rugs the resources ) aid enderminiog the strength of DISTURBANCES AT DARTMOOR. PRlSON.—Friday 'last, a most wilting affray took place at Dartmoor ,'Prison, where the American prisoners of war are.con fined. It appears, that the unfortunate prisoners, who amount to five or six thousand, had recently be come extremely impatient to be set at liberty, and 'ascribed their detention to Mr. Beazley, their coun tryman, who is agent for American prisoners of war - in London. This person they burnt in effigy on ,critlay, nod then proceeded to for&e their way out of the confines of the prison. Capt. Shortland. the re tirlent British agent, went in among them alone and unarmed, to endeavour to pacify them, but a pistol was snapped at him, and therefore the soldiers fired among the insurgents, when about twelve %tete killed and thirty wounded. A musket-Lail grazed Captain Shortlend's cheek. The prompt interference of the military quelled the insurrection, and tranquillity was reitored. One hundred additional soldiers marched from Plymouth to Dartmoor in the course of Friday to reinforce the guard. The remains of the late General Sr E. PattEN 11A31 were buried in Kilcullen Church Ireland, on . Saturday last. ~.~y. ^ .yF"311 ..R_:.~.~~..:~..r o. ;711 ve ".'l7 l -~_ ,