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lie lived, but to be influenced to secure his son from a danger which he (the NobleNlarquis hoped unjustly) thought threatened him. lie thought it would be desirable that these two letters should be made evidence to bring the subject further before the House. It being agreed by the House, that the original letters should be produced and made official, the Marquis of Lawspows pre sented the letters. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said. that M. Mnrictti should be called in, and sworn as to the identity of the letters. Joseph Nlarietti was then called in and sworn. Five letters were then presented to him to identify.—No. 1 was a letter from his father, kited the 21st of Aug ust. which he had received by post.—No. 2 was also written by his father, and dated the 16th of September. He had received it by the post. in an en velope.— so. 3 was the copy of a letter. written by his father to Colonel Brown, dated the 19th of September. This copy was in the hand-writing of his father.—No. 4 was the copy of a letter, written by M. Albertonio to Colonel Brown. The copy was in the hand-writing of Albertonio.—No. 3 was a letter from his father. The Marquis of LANSDOWN inquired of M. Alarietti, if he had received any other letters on the subject? M. Marietti stated, that he had received a very short letter from Albertonio, saying that he (Marietti) was interfering too much, and that he had been seen in the house of Dumont. To this letter he had answered, that M. Albertonio had been miss , informed. and that it was not true that he had been at the house of Dumont. The Marquis of LANSDOWN inquired who M. Ciceri was? M. Marietta replied. that he was a fr i end of Colonel Brown, who often went to the house of his father. The LORE) CHANCELLOR wished that M. Marietti should to•morron morning produce the letter of Albertooio, which be understood him to have in his possession. Counsel were then called in, and Mr. WILLIAMS immediately recommenced. There was, he said, no subject connected with this ease to which his learned friend and himself had directed their observations more fre quently or with more force than to that part of it which regarded the deficiency of witnesses for the prosecution, by which her Msjesty's Counsel would have been prevented front the necessity of calling witnesses at all. Their Lord hips would permit him to commence his statement this day by noticing one or two facts illustrative of the dif fi culties under which herlllnjesty laboured. It would Ise remembered that the general nature of the evidence of Kresge was as to her seeing the Queen and Bergiuni together in a bed room, and the arm of Bergaini in a certain position.&c. Now it that a Chamberlain of the Grand Duke of Baden had been in attendance upon her Majesty during her whole residence there. Upon the propriety of calling such evidence it would be needless for him to expatiate ; and measures were taken to procure the attendance of a person so important to the case. Her Magesty wrote a letter with her own hand, and sent it by a most respectable the 'Neither of the Queen's Attorney General, to secure tt S e ft :t r t l tendance of that Chamberlain. That letter did not obtain the production of the witness. She then wrote another to the Chamberlain, and another to the Grand Duke, but without success. Three special messengers faded in producing that witness, who was himself most anxious to conic ; and who, on the last occasion, declared, with tears in his eyes, that he had orders to the contrary. There was another instance of difficulty. A woman was compelled to embark upon the opposite side, by those who han refused to permit the Cham• bedlam to appear. Again, it appeared that the Queen had seen a Palace at lissaadt , of which she wished to become the occupier. The Grand Duke had at first no objection. The treaty upon the subject was allowed to go on so far, that the Chamberlain had gone the length of purchasing furniture to equip the Palace, but suddenly intimation was given to her that her residence there might nut be agreeable, and the Pala ce was refined. Again, it was not an icunaterial fact in the view of the Queen's Counsel, that no evidence had been adduced, upon the part of the prose cution, with respect to the character and conduct of &mini, while in the service of Gen. Pino. An application had been made, at an early period, to General Pino to appear upon this occasion ' • but some communication , it was believed, took place between the General and the Austrian Government, in whose service the General was, and it was insinuated to him, that if he came to England, he could not come in his uniform. This inti. mation appeared rather extraordinary, and the General wishing to know whether if he came he would lose his commission. no answer was returned, and Gen. l'ino did not and would not come. Did not these things furnish powerful argument upon the part of the Queen, upon a subject which without facts, could not be argued upon at all ? This statement he made to their Lordships as auxiliary to the most powerful facts stated by his learned friend, and reasoned with such irresistible effect.—The learned gentleman then concluded by expressing a hope that these dis graceful proceedings would not be pushed on to their utmost extent on such tainted, perjured evidence. as had been adduced at their bar; but that the judgments of their Lordships would be such as to remove animanues, and, peradventure, by good fortune, still maintain the peace of the country. " This (said the learned gentleman) " is the first wish of my heart; the fact is, that at all hazards, and regardless of all other consequences, the cause of substantial justice may triumph." After a few words from the Lord Chancellor and Lord Hob hind, James Leman was called to the Bar and sworn. He was examined by Mr. DEMMAN.--16 clerk to Mr. Visaed, solicitor to her Majesty. He was seat by the command of her Majesty to Carleruhe. Ile left England on the let of September, and arrived at Carlaruhe on the 14th. He took a letter from the Qireen, directed to the Chamberlainnf the Grand Duke of Baden. lie caw the Chamberlain on the 17th, on the road between Carlaruhe and Baden, and told him that the object of his coming was to request his attendance in England upon this occasion. He also saw and spoke to the Chamberlain on the subject of his attendance in this country on the ton. The Chamberlain was willing to come, but said he could not without the consent of the die Grand Duke. On the 23d Sept. he told witness that he had seen the Grand Duke, and that he had refused to permit him to come. He said he enjoyed his Hanoverian estates through his Majesty's kindness, but that should not prevent him from coming, for he was satisfied that his Majesty would not think ill of Jinn for coming. Witness wrote a letter to the Chamber. lain, requesting that he would make his deposition before a legal authority, as to the grounds of hi s re f usa l. In reply, he sa i d the consent the Grand Duke would be necessary ; without that he could not do it. Witness returned to this country the day before yesterday. Colonel Antony Buller 11. Leger swam, and examined by Mr. DENHAM. Were you Chamberlain to the Queen ?—I had that honour. How long did you continue in that office ?—About eleven years —from laUn to 1819. Did you go abroad with the Queen in 1814 went as far as Brunswick with her Majesty. She then dispensed with my swear:Lutes, on account of my health and family. She was going abroad. I understood to Germany and Italy. I under stootl before ben M*ety left England. According to that permission I left her Majesty at Brunswick ; and she was good enough to say I might return alien I chose. In the course of 1819, I received a communication from her Majesty,. It was in July or August- I was informed by that communication, that she meant to return to England in September. In consequence of that communication I prepared to meet her Majesty at Dover, It was impossible for me on account of my health to wait upon bee Majesty on the Continent—my health was such that I was obliged to confine myself all the evenings of the winter months to my room in Devonshire. When her Majesty returned to this country I had the honour to pay my respects to her—l did so inunodlitely upon hes morn. In consequence of tin stilt of _ THE NATIONAL REGISTER. my health I sent to her Majesty, stating that my illness was such my semices could be no avail to her Majesty, and I begged her to excuse me. No question was asked by the Counsel for the Bill. The Earl of Cr/Ur/fired sworn and examined.-1 recollect having seen her Majes t y at Naples. I arrived at Naples in the beginning of March, kis is. Amongst her Majesty's suite were the lion. Koppel Craven, Sir ‘Vret. Gell, and Dr. Holland. I recollect having seen a person named Bergami there; he was, as far as I understood, in the situation of courier—he was called the courier. I remained at Naples three or four days. Lady Char lotte Lindsay was at Naples. I next saw her Majesty at Rome, where she remained but a few days—about two days. Ido not think that I dined with the Queen at Rome: I dined with her once before at Naples. Ido not particularly recollect who were present, but there were a good many English. Lady Charlotte Lindsay dined there. Madame Falconet was there. The next place at which I saw the Queen was at Civita Vecchia. Her ' Majesty embarked at Civitia Vecchia to go to Genoa. She was there four or five days before she embarked. Lady Charlotte and I resided in the same house with her Alitjesty. 'rile Master of the house, the Machease de Lam, was invited. Madame Falco net had two daugntera with her, one of them was 13 years of age, the other was younger. His Lordship in further examination stated, that Madame Fal cones associated with the principal persons of the place. He be lieved that she had two daughters married ; one to an American gentleman, and the other to a Mr. Potalli. These were not the two daughters his Lordship had seen at the Queen's house at Civita Vecchia; they were unmarried, and dined at the Queen's table. Embarked on board the Clorinde with the Queen; Lady Charlotte Lindsay, Madame Falconet, and her two daughters, and Dr. Holland, were also on board. Had dined with the Queen at Como, when flagand sat the table—slept at Como only one night, and next day went to Milan. Paid ber Majesty a second visit before he left the country. Did not recollect intend ing to remain longer at Como. Dined with the Queen on she following Sunday at Milan. Bergami was at the table. Had not seen her Majesty since. The Earl of Guildford cross examined by the Attorney General. His Lordship stated, he nad seen Bergami at the table at Civita Vecchia, and thought he had on board the Coriarde. Lady Charlotte Lindsay lift the Queen in May, 1817, on board the Clorindc. at Leghorn. Her Majesty, when at the Villa &Este, was attended by an Italian Lady, whom his Lordship understood to be the Countess of Oldi. She spoke good Italian, with very little of the Lombardy accent. Had seen the grounds at Villa d'Este; had a Greek servant with him at the time. The Queen first 'hewed the grounds to his Lordship, and afterwards lent hiw her donkey. Left the Queen near her own door, and then went round the grounds. Did not see tne Queen walking about the grounds; and did not recollect seeing his servant walking there. He nad never stated that he saw the Queen or his servants walking near the grotto, or any other put of the grounds. Believed that his servant was in the house at the time, His servant left hint in May 1817. The Attorney General asked his Lordship if he had not re commended his sister, Lady Charlotte Lindsay, to leave the service of the Queen g Mr. Brougham objected to the question, and it was over-ruled by the Lord Chancellor. Examined be the Peers. • Lord Grey to Earl of Guilford.—At any time that your Lord ship has seen the Princess of Wales and Itergami in company. did you observe any improper familiarity between them F No ! certainly none. Your Lordship stated that the Countess of Oldi spoke good Italian, with a little of the Lombardy accent. What were your observations on her general manners )I—Her manners were per. feedy inoffensive—very modest. Nothing vulgar ,—No • nothi vulgar certainly. I did not consider her as m the least v ulgar in her conversation with I Die. - - Did you observe any difference between the manners of the Countess of Oldi and other Italian ladies 1--I cannot say 1 did. She did not appear to be a woman of remarkable refined man nets. Lord Clenbervie met the Queen at Genoa; Lady Gleabervie volunteered to act as Lady of the Bedchamber until the arrival of Lady Charlotte Campbell. The beat company of Genoa fre quented the Queen's house, where Lord Glcnbcrvie often dined with his Lady. Bergami was always treated as a servant, without any undue familiarity t he behaved towards his Mistress with becoming respect. Mr. BROUGHAM then requested the Lords to indulge Lady Charlotte I.indsay, his next witness, with a chair. Lady Charlotte Lindsay was Conducted to the Bar of the House, and accommodated with a chair. Atter her Ladyship had been sworn, she was examined by Dr. Lushingtoo. Did your Ladyship ever form a part of the suite of her Royal Highness P--Yes, I did. When did you tint enter her Royal Highness's seri ice ?—ln the year 1808. Did Lady Lindsay attend the Princess when the went abroad in 1814 ?—I did. You was one of the I.adies of the Bedchamber ?-1 was. How far did you go with the P.incess on that journey ?-1 accompanied her Royal Highness as far a, Brunswick. Why did you not go further ?—lt was never understood by her Riiyal Highness or me, that I was to go further, but merely accompany her to Brunswick. Where did Lady Lindsay afterwards see her Royal Highness? saw her Royal Highness at Naples, about the beginning.ot March, Ibls. Did you then act as Lady of the Bedchamber?—l did. How long did you continue with her Royal Highness?-1 joined her Royal Highness the beginning of Alarch,and remained with her Royal Highness until she left Naples. I accompanied her to Rome, then went to Civita Vecchia. Embarked with het on board the Clorindr, and quitted her at Leghorn. By whom was her Royal Highness visited during her residence at Naples?—By all persons of distinction there ; all the Neapo litan and other Authorities. Will Lady Lindsay be pleased to state the names of some of them ?—Lord and Lady Glenbtrvie, Lord and Lady Gage, Lord and Lady Holland, Lord and L a dy Cl are Lord and Lady Ox ford, Sir William Gen, and many young Ladies.. Was your Ladyship on board the Clorfride with her Royal Highness?-1 was. Do you remember where she slept?—Her Royal H ghneas slept in part of the Captainis cabin. It was divided in two. Does your Ladyship remember any thing being said about the cabin being divided?—Yes; I remember her !loyal Highness expressed sonic wish to have it altered for my accommodation. Did her Royal Highness have any diftirence with the Captain? —No. I do not recollect any difference. Does pour Ladyship . remember a person of the name of Ber gami being in the service of her Royal Highness ?-1 do. In what situation ?—As Courier. Had you frequent opportunities of seeing what passed between her Royal Highness and Bergami?--I had. How did lie conduct himself?—ln a common way. How did her Royal Highness conduct herself ?—ln the same manner—the spoke as a person generally speaks to a servant. When did your Ladyship quit her Royal Highness's service ? - Ibl7. What was your reason for leaving her Royal Highness P—My brother wrote to me, requesting me to return. Has your Ladyship sten her Royal Highness since her return to this country P—l have. Crass examined by the Solicitor GeneraL—llow long was it after you left her Royal Highness. that she quitted Naples?— About Rothe days. • HOW saucb time wee occupied rim so Naples frets Leghorn, —We were six nights waiting for a wind. and two nights on hoard. . _.. Your Ladyship left Leghorn and did not enter spin into the service of her Royal Highness ?—I left. Leghorn in consequence of a letter. . _ . At the time you was with the Princess at Civita Vecchia, did you see Bergami ? 1 did. Are you able to recollect whether you saw Bergami and her Royal Highness walking frequently together? Her Royal Highness walked nut, and Bergami walked behind her. Ludy Lindsay filled the came of Lady of the BedehanaberfLw. 1 did. That office led you to her Royal Highness's bed-roomf—. Very frequently. At Naples?—Yes. Was her Royal Highness always . alone on these occasions?— Not always alone certainly ; sometimes persons were with her. Did you teoollect on these occasions seeing Bergami with her —1 saw her Royal Highness myself in herbed- room. We din e d in her bed-room with Bergami and William Austin; Bergami waited on us ass servant. Was that at Naples?—During the time I was at Naples. Did any other person besides yourself and William Austin dine on these occasions?—No ; 1 think none but us three dined. Did that happen frequently when her Royal Highness was at Naples ?—Yes ; isisenever her Royal Highness had no set company at dinner. The hour of four o'clock having arrived, the House ad journed. FOURTH DAY. FRIDAY. OCT. 6. Prayers having been read as usual, and the House called over, an excuse was made for the non-attendance of his Royal Highness the Duke of York, who was absent in consequence of indisposition. Mr. Marietti was then, on the motion of Lord LANS DOWN. called to the bar, and produced the letters alluded to yesterday. Mr. Marietti now stated, that the letter of the 16th of October did not come by the post, but by a private hand. Counsel were then called in, and Lady Charlotte Lind say, the witness under cross-examinatiou last night, when the Hesse adjourned, was again called to the bar, and the etweramasination resumed by the Solicitor-General. There is a garden in the neighbourhood of Naples called La Favourite. I walked there one day with her Royal Highness; Bergami was with us. In our journey from Naples to Rome, Bergami acted as courier; I thank he also rode as courier from Rome to Civita Vecchia, but I have not so clear a recollection of that fact. I baw a distinct recollection of his coming op to the window of the carriage during the journey, and her Royal Highness giving him sonic provisions. There was a bottle at Bur roily banded to MM. and I think he drank it without a glass. I cannot be quite positive whether he returned it, but I fancy she did, hut her Royal Highness and 1 had taken onr ref' esliment, and I cannot say whether he ra. turned the bottle or threw it away. I have no distinct recollection of having stated, after I had quitted her Royal Highness, that it was a great relief to my mind having done so. I might have said, had ►t not been for an anxious desire to assist an individnal oat of the savings of that service, I would have quitted it long before; bat I do not think it was coupled wok any words expressive of an ill opinion of the Princess. Reexamined.—To whom was the communication al- boded to made—To my husband, and no one else. Had you ever any difficulty in getting your salary paid by her Royal Highness?—'There were at one time con siderable arrears dne to me. I should have felt great inconvenience in a further attendance, as I laboured under a heavy depression of spirits in consequence of the death of the late Lord Guildford and Lady Glenbe►vie. I never saw myself any impropriety of conduct ou the part of her Majesty which induced me to resign. By Lord DONOUGHMORE.—I was at Naples twelve days, at Rome two, at Civita Vecchia six, on board the Clurinde three, and one day between Naples and Rome, making together a period of twenty-four days; and dur ing that time I observed uo impropriety. I had not seen any thing improper in the conduct of her Majesty myself whilst with her, which induced me to resign, but the reports were of so nupleasant and degrading a nature as induced metossisli to resign. - By Lord FAULKLANI:r.—Her Majesty was peculiarly affable and familiar to all her servants; her manners were very peculiar; I am not a good judge, but I think the foreigners are more apt to converse with their servants titan the English. 1 have observed this peculiarity of manners on her Royal Highness's part; her Royal High ness appeared to talk to Bergand as she did to Siccard and other persons in her family. By Lord LAUDERDALE—I do not suppose I went to her Royal Iligituess's bed MUM without being sent for; but I did not knock at the door when I went. The ar rangement for any quitting her Royal Highness's service was of my proposing. I said I hoped her Royal Highness would permit me to embrace the opportunity of my bro ther's return to England to accompany hint, as 1 could not well travel without an escort' Lord Lando., examined by Mr. Broughain.—l was in Italy in 181:1. Lady Lauda was with me. I was at Naples in November. 1 frequented the society of the Princess of Wales, and was otter at her house, twice or thrice a week. I have dined there, and attended evening parties. The Countess must generally went with me. 'flue company which went to her Royal Highness' was the generality of English and Neapolitan Noblesse. I ob served no impropriety of conduct on the part of her Royal Highness, or any habits on her part which rendered it improper the Countess should visit her. Bergami was at that time in the service oilier Royal Highness, but I saw nothing improper in her Royal Highness's conduct towards him. I was in June or July following at Venice, with the Countess, when her Royal Highness was there; we re newed our intercourse, and I saw nothing improper here in her conduct. I sometimes paw her Royal Highness its her bed-room; I had a child with me. to w such her Royal Highness took • particular fancy. I resided some time its Italy. It is a common practice for gentlemen to be in ladies' bed-rooms in the mot ring—l have seen many ladies in bed of a morning—ladies of irreproachable character, as far as I know.—(A laugh.)—Other gentlemen saw them at the Sallie time ; it was, as tar as I can judge, the practice. Cross-exrimincd by the Attorney General. This was in the year ; Bergami wits ut Venice to the capacity Of (DUI ier. I did slot dine with her Royal II Ones& at Venice. do not knew 1141 W how long she was it Venice. By Lord U WAWA LL.—I du not know the names of any ofieerAusal Highoeits's servants except Berguani ; but was a singular figure, which I reinarhed. I never asked hie oaree, but he was pointed nut to toe as Itergaml. By Lord ELLLNBORQUCRIL-1 did not pee soy thin