The National Register. — London, England, 1820-10-16 00:00:00

0 %Tint occurred at the Foreign Office, u the passport had been obtained in the usual way. The Earl ofeARNARVON inoved,that Mr. Planta, of the Foreign Office, be called to the Bar of this House immediately.—Ordered. The Nuhle Earl then moved, that Mr. Powell be called to the Bar. Earl GREY moved that Counsel on both sides be called in. Mr. Powm.i. appeared at the Bar. The Earl of f:ARNARVON.—Mr. Powell, you stated yesterday that Rastelli left town on the Thursday or Fri day alter the adjournment of this House; that v.as the 14th or 15th of septembet ?—Yeie, it was. I left town on the Friday, and 1 believe Rastelli left the eLly befuse. Do you know whether Rastelli was not ordered if take despatches to Sir C. Stuart, at Paris ?-1 do nut. When you sent Rastelli aoroad, in what time did you calculate his reaching 31ilan7—Iii seven or eight days. What time did you understand lie was to remain at Mi lan?-1 Resit some papers to }Coital which 1 wished to have further legalized, and as 1 conceived Mein important to this cause, I ordered him to return before the 3d lust with these papers. Was Rastelli instructed by you to go anywhere except to Aldan i—Novs here except to Aldan : he was to go there direct. To the best of your knowledge and belief, have any other persons been sent away ? I have sward that two others have gene. At the time yea resolved to send Rastelli to Italy, did you inquire us to the probability that any of the wiwrsses would soon be permitted to depart ? I had made no in quiry on the subject. You have stated that you have received letters mention ing that Rastelli was ill. From whom did you receive them ?—Froin Colonel Brown. Have you got these letters ?—Not upon me. Have you had any communication from Rastelli ?—I have not ; nor have I made any to hint. To Lord LANSDOWN.--1 have already said that I did nut instruct Rastelli to go to any other place or places than Milan. To Lord MORLEY.-1 mentioned at the roreign Oise that Itasteili was to go to Milian as a courier. It was pre viously known to Lord Clanwilliain and Mr. Planta, the Under Secretaries. To Lord DARN LEY.—I certainly do not consider the witnesses inCotton louden as under my direction and comoul. Lord LRSK IN E.--If that was your sole object, how came you to send hnn with papers, the legalizing of which must have caused some delay t 1 did not send the papers that he might lega list? them hat I sells the papers to Milan Chit they might be legalized there. I expected they would be legalized iu suaiciew time to be brought back be re by Hasten& before the 3d October. I left this,to the direction of Colonel Brown. Whet were the names of the persons to whose families it bad been thought necesssary to send ?—Francini, Majucci If I could see a list of the ni I could poiut out mere ; but my recollection does out serve me now. Rastelli was also to bring letters to persons in the ueighboui hood of Milan. Did you give instructions to Raskin to quit Milan. and to the ueighateuring countries where the families of the witnes ses resided, and give them the assurances required du not recollect having given any precise instructious to him to do so. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE.—Then it was by means 61"thuse letters which were brought by Rustelli, that the families were to derive a knowledge of the witnesses'—By these and the personal appearance of Rastelli ; mid I thought that Rastelli would probably be sent front Milan to the countries in the neighbourhood. Had you any reason to expect that Rastelli would, with out any instruction from you, go from Milan to tae various eo nitric, where the families were, mid give assurances them by his personal appearance there?—l recollect that ne was to get letters to the families, and to give asstiranr ha the wi 'lessee were sate, and I concluded %hat Loh Brow would 'wad him to the places in which the families were to glee it iiiiii ii , SeratlerS. Would it be possible that Rastelli could convey to those • places the letters, and by Isis personal appearance make those asserancei, w itliout Incurring a greater delay than was permitted 7—As 1 have alreauy stated, tie left on site evening ()like 140, or the morning of the 15th. l calculated that hr could get to Milan in six or seven days. Tuts would leave eleven dash before the 3d of October. The (Hiram... he %%mild have to go Shell to the fandlirs, way to Menxisr, oleic Is is ten miles, mat to Counts, which is 23 miles. Loud AIiCK LA N D.—Can you state w healer the friends of the a it nesse', were in a st ate of anxiety I—l du mit know. Du sou know the Dumber of letters that were sent over ? cannot tell.) Lord ELLENBOROUGH.—Didyou send any letter to Col, Brown upon t he Nol,ject of Ras:elle. misers's Yes. Ha ,e yoa wit is 1--(Afmt value sitatioss)—Y Cali you vrothice ?—I can. It crstitains a gu vet deal of matter upon other subjects; but vs (tether it is iiiy duly, cousidee it% the situation in which I staid to pro duce it ---- Call y o u lirotliwe that part of it vs Well trent.: or the mission of Ita•telli I—After a 'don't hesi:ation-- It is allogethei a tottlidoitial evaimulicali ,, a, and l do not consi der mys,h - at lioeu ty to protium. it." Lord GREY.—" 1 itiolerstoutl yen to state that you have in year possession a tiger limn Cob Drowii, idiom Eastelle's mission to Milan, Can yon ptodore it Ni,; the vsl t IC sit the letter, but that pint of it sr klub relate. to 11,e mission 1-1 consider all comistionietstimi% made to me by I tirismi as tioichleisiial. I ascii:foil rive, to tom 1 , 1641441i:its at the vs th,tt• or any put of the cut es -11011114 *WV to 4/1 Cl , lOllO Lora Gil F.Y.--I most call upon the Ilisese In decide upon the tilieslll,ll, whether Ille 111 be to produce the letter? Mr. Pots'et.L.—l object, h. the situation in %V 1114:11 I stave, as agent itu this case, to the production of :soy let ter lu VW 1 . 10111 Col. Blown. The cxaaama Lion of tail Mittiesei was e f excessive 1 , 1 ally material tart. J t i ssi d s 1./fat/it, torn cal!.d ill ai d ca:uuiucd by tile PtserN. Are yvu Utteer Sveretar; iu Curti Cattlerea ; ;lt'b Otticel - utn. DO you reoro , ta r aii:.l . caliois made to boo by 4r. r0t%1 . 11, in St•iptvitila r, lor pit•stiort for l'ii%% till conic It) mr curd sa,tl it It.tll yeti tictet mined to seo.i it:pinta ith:oad aN I titiricr, ;mil desired toe to take the ola sat steps for that pill pose. l coissequel.:l) oritei td the pass, putt, it war sigiscil by Lord Oolitic:1.0i; but si, u. it pat, putts are kept id tbt; tact., ruddy fur rucU occhtioat ; and Till NATIONAL ItEGISTEIt the passport for Rastelli nas one of those. I made no ap plication to Lord Castlereagh upon the subject; but of my own set granted the passport. without the immediate order of Lord Castlereagh. It is the constant practiceto do so.— I have not received instructions from Lord Castlereagli, or any other person respect tug tkagranti o ¢ of passports tu per sons who had attended as witnesses, At the time the pass• port was granted I knew from the newspapors, and from my general knonledo of the events of the day, that Rastelli had been examined as a wit owss ; but I knew it from no other sunrce. It was granted, I heheve, on an, 14th of September. Do you know whether Rastelli was charged with dis patches front the Foreign Office T—Certuitily not from the Foreign Office. DO you know of any passport granted for any courier for the purpose of caliitt hack Rastelli know that pass ports a err granted for other couriers; hut whether they were to brio.; Ito stern hack or tint, I do not know. By the Marquis of L ittiSl)oll . lii w hat capacity did you consider Mr. Powell when lie made upplication to you for the passport ?—As agent for the prosecution. By Lord ['ARLIN GION.—W hen Mr. Pond' made ap plication for the iiiissport for Rastelli, did lie apply for pass ports for any other persons believe he certainly did not. Lord DARN I.LY.--Ilas Mr. Vona II made any applica tion at any oth-r time for passports for any other witnesses to Knout Of the co u ntry f—Crrtaisity not. Wetcyuuucgcau sad w itathe order of the House with respect 10 the examined witnesses ' at the time you granted the passport for ?—I had no knowledge of that order, except merely a hat was stated in the ilea s i mpers. Mr. IiIIOUGH•SL-•-• , D14 Mr. Powell say any timing else to you respecting Itastelli's join . ; hack?—As far as I recollect, he said, that Itastelli, being a proper person to return to satisfy the families of the witnesses, it nits determined to send him. Ido not rccuilect any thing further. I did the official art. Do )trit recollect whether Powell said that Rastelli had been van iii iii ed ?—I do not. There might base been persons in the room at the time. Passpai is sere granted to stile other couriers. I do not know the date of the earliest of the passports granted after that to Itastelli, nor did I know the date of that until last night upon my ask ing the persons officially acting. At the suggestion of Mr. Brougham, Mr. Planta was ordered to ascertain the dates of the transports granted to to signer couriers sent over up."i the proceedings. Phifippo Pomi was then called in and examined by Doctor US 1 . • HINIGTON _ _ I usually reside at the Barona.—l have lived there in my own parish, thirty-five years—in my own place where I work, fourteen years. Baron is the name of the parish, I. resided at the house at the liarona, where the Princess of Wales lived three years ago. 1 remember the Princess residing in that House by night and by day. lam a carpenter. I know Guiaeppl Hasten He was in the Princesses service as groom. I know Louisa Dumont. I remember, in the course of the last year. Rastah coming to the Barons. He was accompanied by the son of my head master.— Dumont came in half an hour after in a carriage. Rasteili and Dumont were together in the house. What did you see Ilastelli do ?...I saw them both make little drawings dune. The witness was then asked—Did he Utastelli) offer you any sum of money to come am a witness against the Queen of Eng land? ..11e told me this:—" If you have anything to depose against her Royal Highness, now is the time. You will have • gcod present. We then went to an inn and drank together. What did Rastelli do on leaving the house ?...11e asked me whether I had received presents from the persons who came, and I said no. Ile 4ftcralted:; made me a present. Did ttastelli otli:r you any money to induce you to come here us a witness did °Kr me on another day, but not on that day. lie told me, if I had something to say against the Prin cess, I then should receive a great present. I sant I had nothing to depose against her Majesty. I had nothing to buy but to speak well of her. Ile told me, if you like you may make yourself a man. I asked him in what manner. Ile said, you who have lived in this house day and night, may have something to depose against her Royal Highness. I said I had nothing to depose against that lady, who had always done me! good. %Vas Dumont present at the time ?...No, the was not. When Rastelli made this offer to you, did he mention any thin respecting Dumont ?...No; because it wa, sonic days after that he had with me this conversation. Dr. Lushngton....The witmss dues not understand my ques tion. The Solicitor General objected to the course of examination. Lord LIVERPOOL thought, that however the law on the point might sand, since the absence of Hastelli was owing iodic act and deed oldie Agents far the Bill, the thtence ought not to suffer from it, and that the que:tion should be put. The LORD CIIANCELLOR agreed in c-is opinion. The objection was overruled, when the witness was recalled, and the examination resumed by Dr. 1.114141,8 m. Where did this second conversation take place? ..It took place on a murnmg that he called on me, and we went to the inn tageilier. lid he then make any °MI., or promise of money, to you, to become a witness against die Queen, and in what words, as nca.ly as you can recollect Ile told me, if you have any thing to depose against her Royal now M.: time. You will I.IXI/111U a great ma,. and rece:ve a great present. We went to the inn together, talking, and dined there. Dal he, whin he spoke of your gettinq agreat present, men tion the mine Duoionty,..Yes, he did. In retirence to what did lie inentiois the name of Dumont ?... I asked him vim:lller Dumont Ailts• still in the service of her Royal Highness. He told me that she was, and that she had made a good day's work; that she had made a great stmt. 'lke witness in cordintiation.—Ruste'di told me that Dumont was still in the service her Royal II iglintss ; but I foini.l out that she was here. Ile told if 1 deposed something again.t It r Royal Highness, i should receive a great present. I said that I had been night and day in that house, anti that I never saw my thong that ensblcd me to speak ill of the Princess. He said. 6 ' You know no:Mug alv.111: It. to; I tell you it is s very dcc.i'tul home." I said that it was a rut! tab.:hood, fer I was in the hoos: and knew Linking of it. 1)a your know of the name of Braganti?...l do: he was a companion eat R.Lsteqi. 01 %%hat sells salt, tolidceo, brandy, and other liimrs. llc. ilteli tau giiii. , ants out of Ai Did 'kaolin' ask you to come and dopase agninst her Rosa! 'Lie King's Solicitor General objected to this question. The pei sou otiose conduct it all . ..vied had inn been ea.a wined .ts a willes:4, our hail hi; heel probed to be at all comforted with the proei Dr. I.mliimittimi contended for the I iglit in put the ques tion, and read smile pallsul R.lNteikal esidence shah Netit, ha said, to prose unit Ilia gaud' was all 841'10 e ii i. pilled ill conjunction whin Itaarth. 'f lie tlitio•iltott to this gneslioll 1:01 be Added to tilt* many tlachrnities auk ahhither Alajesty cause is as sill Inotbied, by pin swealturs O Ito had nut yet dared in 1 . ), hill it Illelll•ch ell in any visible shape or Wino. It %roma appear as if the pro• sectnion 5544 11111114141E11 by a Joint Stork Company. Itt what state is the Queen likely to be placed, if evidence of this Mud were iiitusetil individuals might gu tiortmgh ~5:._ . 33t - - - all Europe suboruing perjury. What hope of justice could exist if the acts of those persons, whom he could prove were guilty *f the vilest acts, were not to be inquired into? Mr. Denman supported the areument of his Learned Friend. The Douse were to consider that the Bill of Pains and Penalties was also a Divorce Bill, and that it was also called a Bill introduced fur the purpose of pro curing substantial justice. How could that justice be obtained if the production of evidence, as to the subor nation of witnesses, were to lie opposed because technical objections might exist f The Attorney General said, that when a proper oppor tunity should present itself fur inquiring into the conduct of that Commissiow, an inquiry which the gentlnmen them selves were quite anxious should take place, they would stand quite near in the opinion of their Lordships and of the public. • The Lord Chancellor here interrupted the Attorney- • General. He strongly censured the conduct of Dr. Lush ington, in having stated that the prosecution was instituted by a Joint Stock Company, and in having insi tttt toed that the prosecutor was invisible. Whether the prosecutor was visible or invisible, the House, he was convinced, could not permit such a question as that which had been proposed to be put.—(Lund cries of--Go on! and ad join a ! ) Mr. Denman said, he had to submit an application to • their Lordships before they adjourned. It was that their Lordships should ascertain from the parties conducting the prosecution, whether Braganti was in this country. The King's Solicitor General said, that the Learned Counsel had no right to impirre into the course the Counsel • fur the Bill meant to pursue. Whether or not they would call him as witness to contradict any statements that might be made ' it was for them to deter 11l ine. Mr. Denman said, that lie had not asked whether it was their intention to examine Braganti fur the purpose of ob taining a contradiction to any thing which bad been said. He merely wished to know whether that person was, or was not in the country. The Lord Chancellor said, that it was not in the power • of the House to ask that question ; but it was in their power to decide whether In any course of the proceedings they should themselves call this witness.—(Hear, hear!) The House than adjourned at fear o'clock. PROM SATURDAY NIGHT'S GAZETTK. • BANKRUPTCIES SUPERSEDED. T. Gilson, Nottingham, laccinan. W. Larlhain, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, coach master. BAN KRUPTS. H. Thornton, Rood Lane, upholder. Solicitor, Mr. Wasand. • Mark Lane. G. Clarke, St. John's Street, Clerkenwell, shoemaker. Sol. Mr. Beeiholme, Castle Street, Holborn. W. Reynolds, kite of the ship Orient, master mariner. Sols. Messrs. Willis, Clarke, and Co., Warnford Court, Throgmaton • Street. J. Thomas and .1. Cabell, OxforuStrect, linen drapers. Soh Mr. Hurst, Milk Street, Clieopside. J. Smith, junior, Itamsgate, Kent. carpenter. Sol. Mr. Pat. • ten, Hatton Garden. T. Bidwith, ilagginswood, Salop. fanner. Sol. Mr. Grieithik Southampton Buildings, Chancery Lane. T. Young, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, fishmonger. Sol. • Mr. Williams, it nl Lion Squar,:. G. Hart, Cheltenham, ►one mason. Sol. Mr. •Meredith. Lincoln's Ini. New Square. J. Harris and C. Cooper, Bristol, wool and cloth factors. Sols. nessts. Alexander and ilolme, New lon. J. Wilson, Swanton Motley, Norfolk, fame:. Soli. Messrs. • Stocker, Dawson, and Co., Boswell Court. DIVIDENDS. Oct. 21, J. T. Taylor, YlOrion; Surrey, silk manufacturer—. Nov. 4. H. Hari ison and B. Cowman, Lawrence Youltney Lane. merchants-7. T. Reay, South Shie.di, merchant-IZ, W. and 1. Blanch, Bath, tinnien-11, G. W. Wye, Newington Butts, merchant-25, G. Gardiner, St. John Street, ironmonger -11, S. Rains, Wapping Wall, merchant—lB, R. Davies, New Bond ' Street, tallow chandier-4, R. Crombie, Chelsea. victualler-4, J. Whitehead, M. Howard, and J. Haddock, Cateaton Street, bankers -4, It. Miller, Old Fish Street. bookseller-4, J. S. • Mantredi, T. Lutf. and H. Hens tall, Norton Falgate, dyers—. 4, J. and G. Sykes, Cuzrier'S Hall Court, clothiers-7, J. E. Yates. Shorediteh, pewterer...l4, J. F. Goddei. and N. Wood. Gosport. mercers-11. G. AL Thurklc, New Street Square, Fetter Lane, . wine inerchant...-4, .1. Browne and J. Grcgson, Charles Street. Grosvenor Siistare, upholsterers-4, T. Dairen, Upper George Street. Ai arylebonc, timber merchant—S. Hale, lii,hopsgate Srrcet, tavern keeper-4, G. Stielbey, Whitechapel, hosier—. 14, W. Colman, Gosport, baker-14, G. George, Gosport, slop seller—C. Leigh, Bishopsgate Street, insmance broker. FICATES to be granted Nov. 4. J. Bolt sud G. Joiws, Bath, grocers—T. Speedy. Mill Wall, Poplar, victualler—J. F. Boyle, Pall Mall, stationer—R. Sug. den, I lalilax. York, bookseller—A. Gresdale„ Manchester, linen Nottall, Manchester, bookseller—l. Jacobs. Bristol, . manufacturer—T. Davison, Hinckley. Leicestershire. draper. Extract of a letter front Virginia, of Sept. 7 " Captain Jordan, of the relnaoner who arrived here on Saturday, from St. Bartholomew's, states, that the brig Irresistible., commanded by Commodore Dankis, under the Venezuelan flag, had arrived at the Five Islands about tho stl, of August, having captured a fleet of five sail, con sisting of a ship, Ore,: brigs, ant a schooner. One of the hi ins was heavily armed, and acted as convoy. The capture was made !iideira; the Iket was from the Havannall, bound to :Tani; and the action lasted about an hour and a quarter. The brig (or convoy) had 35,000 doubloons on board, and Com. motion:. Daniels landed them ut St. Bartholomew's. Captain Jordan saw the at the Five Islands, and had sonic conversation with Captain Daniels." _ _ By eecouuts titan Vienna of the taith September, it appears that the projected interview of the Save teigits is tiv:4l to take place at Truppau on the .29:1t Ooiober. The Ministers of France and England an: to bo almitted. Advises from Copeultu f len of the :i7th, state, that, :iccnrd•+ug to report, the Ma rutime, Vow ers of th,: North are on the point of eon eltatirg ,t treaty of ua:vig•ttioi•, whi,:h will secure to than greAt advantages on the snores of the Baltic unit the North Soo. On September 50, the Duke of Cumberland had Icti Balm fur Det'au.