The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-04-25 00:00:00

-e 1 t 3; • kw t el • ~..._- • _.....ended, thartliii war iesitead - of Rte... ,wiry say eaves of Worm .for thirst* of Ettmln. Mat Ils_ calculated ter -excite the most Dimly appeeheusions -with re igned ...Frame ; (or the dilleulty of Aks canniest, .great t eoughsuader any eireemstance% was.ebashierahly-enhaest ed bribe manner in which ti.st country would be obliged to mailman her army, by drawing her seppliet from home.-. Ilits be had proved that Franishallibut Mule respect-at eueeess in her undertaking, and under such eiroamstaneadlei • would put KM thelloum whether weiwerejustifiedin -restate • !Iwo a warnithout that calculating thechaaies of assn. ii . . -medelvedoretestlthe policy of those whammy, " you engag , 46 A l e svar.oPtle Peninsula to assist the Spaniards agulnst .Frenok invasion, and you drove out the Freneli at 'that time ; why not do so row ?" It appeared difficult to an= 'ewer such an appeal to one's feelings and judgment. But isewould.say, as he slid before, that the cases were not similar. In leinti we went-to assist • united people-mew. we would not only hove to fight •the French inraders,, • but t, rerotr.ile contending factions in the country we, went to assist. It had been said, assist them with your, ships ; bolt chips *mild not do. If we meant to aid them etfeoteally, we'should be oblieell to rend an army wider• the constisand-of the Noble !Juke, or some other eine rieneed General, and expose ourselves to all Lie inconve nience and expertre, from the effects of which we are but. just vuov!villif. The question then resolved itself to, this-arewe prepared to engage io the oar now, °reboil we weit.for events which why prevent the neressity ?- if we do engage in it, however, - it lutist be finally and . efteettially. 1 his was the restion-it bad been tome • timetaikire the pubite ; they'hadde6leil upon it, and he. tiriimeslabe-alttiost unanimous •wiith of the country was, that pease might in preserved. Ilus 'Noble Lord bad anid.-slioll stwoolloW.Oteraeleesto lorso ; one in thearaiwof. despots, or pimp gee pindiesta .our.cbasader &sibs:leader; of independent States ?-(flear.) He (Lord Liverpool) cool-1 have no difficulty in statiew his opinions upon . .Aliatmetleject.e-Alethooglst- the policy 44 chi( youbtry, and . that most consonant to the spirit of the British Con ,_ . agitation. was to steer a initidlecniuse between demo- , , crow and monerchy—to keep free from idle extremes,. amity become neither the abet:era-of ,pare deapetitun on the one hand, nor.of wild anarchical liberty on the other. ---(tismr.) These, his principles, were embodied in a note of the late Marquess of LOndontierry of January JB2l. They were laid down, with reference not only to * the Aetnal arentnstances of the country at that period, hut to those which might possibly *emir afters% ards.- With respect to our foreign etletions, the obvious po-: hey r ‘ f this country land that ice which ninetymirre out • at a buntlred would concur, was * remain at 'mace. , What o• may row oat of grow noon. could e • foresee, but under all the circumetanser s he thought 'lto chance of pi ace-being preserved was meal to 'taut of -a 'coltinnatice of the war. • '- ' • Earl Oftfir explained. s .. .. Load AU:AMA V said a few weir& • • Thit'3larerems oftfiliNoll(iii"N skiii;tbat at'fhat late hone he should be room' unwilling to like tip' the limo of +heir -Lord elii ,m, but•that ~ be' was desirous to enter his neatest against the conclading sentences of the lkohle Earl's . itriereli. , ' Ha elledril to his remallta. upon the re-. aria' ainite of Burope. tie saw with rogret es lively as • that tilt by 'his Jmrdsbip tic progress of .opinions throughout Europe, which were likely to bream. the ranee of confesion and tlisbonwir. '144 he could not conrur in the inference which the Noble Lord-drew from hisgresiises. or believe that the present qinothen seas one' • , boss-een democracy of miniarch.y. stmt t me which its ,. valved iihr Luterems of every indepeailent nation (he a r). l •Caulitttaao Voids Lotil say thad.Spaan was &slams torsi: omit ley .fusee her demutvatical hastitetione to - rotifer ea- 1 i .tivasti Was them not, en the (*larder, a manifest Anti position and deerniiiiation on the pwrt‘ht utter notions, to wply their institutions to Spain. Let not the Noble:, Loot then.kay that this ' was a iiiiestien • between dries' cracy and monarchy ; - let him ratner confess 4bat• th is aliattempt to ~t- s p d military despotism in the Ales t .. , of Swope, (leme)teni th ereby compel isrdepetedmit niP timeso change their Coemitutiona. Thia.maathe get at• .---mneraiwspeereithltlitTlESTonetry . ems deeply} interesp 'aisl;asotalbioh if it did not' assist •ta tieterminnsc no*, *chile hereafter, determined when it was toaArtb for sslaor interference,—for, said the. Noble hiaetinls. le no man• 'se . •-- - "Lay the flaWering unction. to his soul," that.tbevositngion of those principles which beetstint& ;melt progress, which assisted 4w-pulling down libert c in Italy mad Nsples, will, if not ehoriceat io Spain, be kept from oar own shores. The .nneotion which had a ibis night been hrenght before the House was ens in r sahleb ibe interests of this and every other independent fr• station was deeply involved. " fits Majesty's Alinistees, • lad incurred a heavy responsibility, and they were that • " . ,Ilight open their fetal • flow lied they conducted their feese? .4 asserting that from Match, 1620. th AM. e4..they were entirely ignorant of the intentions of room towards Spain. Subsequently they did not sup t' poSe France would make a direct attack upon that couu •.ssys =alertly, when her designs were no longer die ..avowed, they imagined she would refraia from regard to 1- . ster* own interests. Thus, by their own showing, was • 'Government convicted of grossignoresme, misapprehen sion, and erroneous views, clueing -the whole progress of ~she negoclatioes. He was surprised to hear the Noble . President of the Council declare it as his opinion . that France would still (after ail that had occurred) - 'refrain from attacking Portugal from regard to her own interest. • That consideration. if it had 1 3 a 4 any weight, * would have prevented her from attacking Wrists, and was it to be supposed that when she had'got possession of that country she would hesitate to invade • Portugal. In order to account for the present unsettled state '; Otßurope, it was necessary (said the Noble Metquenallo go Week to the peace of Vienna. After contending that . it , ' , was Mimed Kith reference to vulgar interests, and did nut, mann the pablle interests, an it he wondered at (said the Noble Marmites) Shot the love of liberty should now break' forth in rather an unpalatab e form. The real question be; fore the House was, whether independent potions should be lett free to choose their own instltodam. undismayed by tho' hayooets, and unlageeneed by tne ISelitkofaßg other ['owes?' With, these sentiments, he should fesphikhig duty to support* the motion id kis Noble Friend. ~.... .•%, • , Lord • PLLB*MOROUGII rspliatis -- .1,-. h Th. 'ada *Lea dislike( ou.the mesiesiment. For the * amembinint, 116; proxies, 40-142.-Against thp amenit ies-0,2g : proxies, .10-46. -lainjority for Nan anutudaten44. At half-put two the House adjourned. - . • -;so HOUSE OF COMMONS, Teunsba , 4allaists. 96. 4, ' • Mr. Secretary. CANNING preteiited &Mir pepeel'br order ( his Majesty. ^a c A person from the Liverpool Dock Oompes, peerealed, g the aeceests of that company. Kevefal petitions were piesent4dllolBo duo Southwark Coen of Requests' Bill. Mr. MONNE presented a petition team thedrVateel of the Wheigune 'toad, against certain masses. 44 the Holyhead Ind Rowth Harbour Bill, which went to take the monde* . Oleg! of the rood out of the hands of Abe present trustees,, tool'vt•st it iu the commissioners. • 1 • Mr; Alderman SMITH said a few words is so lOw a' to/to Hutt we could not 'catch their meaning, • M. V. FIZGERALD definded the clause' of the Bill. INC% he asserted was touch calumniated in the petition be fore the H othie , and thought that no further discussinit Humid take place during the absence of the lion. Baronet (Sir 11. Parnell), with whom that Bill had oeginated, and to whom he thought the public very much Indebted. After some further con tion, the petition was referred is the committee of the said Rill. On the motion of Mr. DRNISON. the second mailing of the Southwark Court of Requests' Bill was postpuned to Friday the 2d of May. Mr. J. CARTER presented a petition from the inhabi tants of Portsmouth and Purtsen, against the P..rtson.utli Fishery Rill. which he said went to exclude a portion of 14.4 Majesty's subjects from their rights, by modeling it incum- Ita lint on them to %TV tojeitede of.the es‘laileatemiallse/Sfl - liberty-to 'Rah. Hie f, ioegrato sad wt. iff.maimi apposed-the pall, S litepetition. ee ATTORMIIT-HENERAL supported It. The petiti wee tkentordered to be rited en- p G Mr. B RBU@HAIL 84,61 ft-one 4f the Leeds ante -Me mireity,(Sir H. Cleek).la his plane, wished toputsgeadliall to.him. - He had just bees 'informed that a fifpaalskeemeila. laden With treaters - fur theilpanish Government. had bees ;Raptured by 'a french ermine the 'WM ladles, .cironinstaisees that, if trite, mould make oat a -.raw vir piracy, and entitle us to hang up every .esan on heardHlie erniser, or of gross peelidy on thepett oftlieGoeneamentdf "ranee. 'rhe omit-ere had taken plebe six weeks *go, wed. the-orders anestmonsequently bete been Issued floe-or Ms weeks before, and- whilst aegoclations were goiag ea -be tween thetwo Goternments. He wished to know if suck 'were the heti .iiirldEOßOW CLERK said, be could not iknewer Hon. Member's geestion.as he had no informition on it. alb- . b..s through the medium of the pehliciournele. Mr. GOOCH presented a petition from the county of Sufiblk for Parliamentary Reform, but could sot pledge 'himself to euppott Its prayer. Mr. GOOCH presented a petition from fifteen magis trates of the county-of eluffu)k, praying for some alteration of the game laws. Mr. GRENFELL presented a petition 'from the Inhabit ants of She borough ofVenehye,tgainat the duties on tools. —Ordered to lie-en the table. Sir E. ICNATCIIIIL'LL presented a petition drew the freeholders and occupiers of land iu the county of Kent. 'preying for some relief against the preesure of Agriculturdl -Distress.—Ordered to beleinted. Lord STAHL/Min:tee-to tisk the Hight Ilonourebie tretary for [foreign Affairs, whether he would object to tine, production of a document connected with the tete snook tione, the nature of which, from thelow tone in which the Noble Lord-spoke, we were unable to °Mire. . -Mr. CitN NINO _ltsid that -aa estreet from that demean*. had been already laid before the public, and that the paper which was celled for by the Noble Lord would not tend to throw any additioval'iight upon the subject In discussion. Mr. 61,1IiVeLL moved for a return df Debtors im prisoned ha %et:Mead-for the Mat sir years, specifying -the nature of their debts, sad dietlnguisiting these me Rader U. and 20L—Ordered. Mr. KENNEDY brought in a Bill to regulate The mode of eendeeting Criminal Prosecutions in Iteotlend.—Read a drat ;is,. and arderedlo be swaths second time ea Friday, the 2d of May. , THE NOESOLIC PETITIQ.N. Mr, pres. wed a potitiou from the ooLility, gen try, clergy, and freeholders of the ,county of Norfolk, praying for a reform in the Commons' Rouse 'ef l'atlia anent tFer the dircnesion that arose en This occasion, see the Mint cobras of our last page.] TaX ON WMI4. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a Petition franc cer tain inbabi teats , of London and places adjacent thereto, ,praying for a repeal of the Duty ott.e.oals carried coast etays. He trusted that the flight Hon. Chlocellor of the Itsetgrerer would give a pledge th it this Tax should ha •enstingst dip first remissions of the pobli.: buithens. Art 1H041414.1 1 U5S and Mr. Altlerunrn tidal DOES sup 7ted the pirt Tire Cld ANCELLO R, of the EXCWIQU ER said, that the ei•uzion of the country previewed env further reolne. Von of taxes during the . premmt year. The Worthy Al th•rman wished him to give a pledge that this tax should be Teinire.l In the canna; Sesoon . • hut the elute reason *dolt! prevent • his complying with that regeest. If the nowirry -continued at peace, and the same Ilmni.shing sante .ef the revenue went on, he should consider it his 'ditty to go into a general revision of the taxation of the ronntry, with a view to girt, up inch taxes as the gene. cal interests of tlie uelant4y could beet dispense with. — Near. ; • .The Poitionsonatilleral to be printed. 'or',IIIc.*:ATWOOMMOMei ter a return of the quantity, price oft**, bolts and sheathing, and ether stores led tor by the Navy, and also by the Board, of #llhriince 'dime ISIT.- - Thaered.. Mr. A BERCROMBY said he had a Petitirette pre *eitt ftoorthe'CiWrif taitiburgir, priyhkw a 'term tn , Parliament; but from the lateness of the hour he should deter it to another occasion, when it was hie intention to give notice of a motion epos the subject. • . Me. HUME.presented a Petition from Selkirk, prapi Lug Reform. Ordered to be printed. . • Mr. HONEY WOOD prevented $ Petition from the Hendred of finmbleyard in Norfolk, complaining of Agrimaltaral Distress, and disclaiming the County Peti-i tioo. 'Ordered to be printed. Mr. O. BENNET presented a Petition from Rochdale, praying Reform. Orti..red to be printed. Lord ARCHI BALD HAMILTON presented a Petition from the Island of Arran, praying for a restoration of the Duties on Berilla. After a few words from the CHANCELIAnt of the EXCHEQUER, the Petition was ordered to lie on the table. SHERIFF OF DUBLIN. Sir F. BURDEi I' rose, from a desire to proceed with I ri mo tio n e o f the pc i theprreneetig n sing . dings .t h that wou l d i hoped, ariseotuhteroef 'fore. that the Learned Attorney-General for Ireland (HP rhtnlceti), would furnish him Aitb s list of witnesses.— .:111settwore others who would suggest, whether it was to Aim.: or is the Nouse. He, however, had done• his duty, in putting the matter into the proper train; and 'the pnewentinn of it ought to beileft to the ',oldie officers. 'They were the propet men, and the matter might to be refitted. An order of the House stood, for proceeding with this matt& to-morrow; but that might not be finite fah' towards the Sheriff of Dublin. It might not be quite fair tO call him in before he were furnished with the ne-- cessary information • and, therefore, he would purpose, that the order should be enlarged, for the purpose of al lowing the Sheriff to prepare his &Race ;. sr, if that, should be necessary, to permit him to go to Ireland. r PLUNK ETT said, that when he rose in that lionie 'forth. purpose of d-fending himself, he was underlies irkeispity of stating facts In which the Sheriff, qf Ueh 1n 'Wits itailieated. Under such circumstances It was nits 'rai; at well as proper, in the Sheriff to andeaveng to clear hlidesilf; I t o he did not see that sly delay was necessary , 991 the,part of the Sheriff. He hid come over to cover *airy. maim coming over, he was of comae prepare.' 4ror thelesuit. Nall he was perfectly ready to furnitu the names of all the witnesses at present in his posse*. eien. Among these there was , one of the name of Noble, who bad not the requisite affidavit. His affidavit did in deed purport to be in the case, and it had all the form ality-of stamps., but it wanted tile jersoar, it did not op 'pear to hate been sworn before the proper Authority, and therefore it was onavaillag. On a termer evening he had understood that an honourable bientionan,.(Col. Barry) had wished to ask a question of Jilin, which the tarn of the dehafe had rendered unnecessary. That •Heriourable Gentleman hail, however, told him, behind ,the chair, what the question was that tel had intended to propose. The queapon was. whether he had any inten tion of moving for au inquiry in this matter: and his I answer had been, that lie had none in the least. Ile might pursue that or any other course, kit he did not feel himself at liberty so say either that he world or that he would ant. Colonel RAaR said, he asked the qtteation witjt,fee 'lord to a further proceeding by ek-ofEeio information. list se the' cettrer ha-I been aliered he did not need to*. rest that. Now that they were to proceed' before the Homo, he was anxious that their proceedings shoralel, in as f i r is possible. he analjgpus to thole in a Cours . of Justice. lleiherefore r..eocuinended that the chervil,' ' should be put in a tangible shape. The list of nerves wouli oat be sufficient information to the Wee Sheriff. altr •1. v •••11e. , FLUNKETT•ohneeeed iiritise dud mooed fort e .1 11 "7. ' r. SCARLET? said the o b ject of the 1,1114 us •inesttlie genteel condett of the high' bear ; tt was low •pedeible,lbereforei to give•anTspeclfic Charges: 'The me naltlot the inquiry might lead. to them, or lt-rnight net. biroPLUNKE IT begged to ask theHesoorable Mem 'bee (we believe Col. Barry) who it was that bad instruct ed him to say the inditiduals composing the Grand Jury 'wetetlre same es 'those who had served 'on former mint-. .sines? The statement was <torten in 'words, but mast iecoereet in substance. The fact wee, that 'them were . two Grand Jories ; one was returned fur purposes not connected' With the Criseinnl haw, but engaged princi-* pally In the disposal of public money. The other Brand Jury was for the ;purpose of administering the 'Criminal Caw.; and on ibis Grand Jury there was not an an ave• rage of severallerms more than one and a half whit dead . been op the previous Grand Juries. Cal. BARltir rose, we presume, to order, when Mr. PLUNKETT said, 'lte neasperfeetly atiare that bk, mune was mot strictly regular ;dna hie object west*. put the House in possession of an impoitant fact. There were per us on their list, who answered regulaely the order of their names, as if they were on a muster roll. On farmer oreasione, it 'had often been necessary to Poe persons foe nen-attendance. Lent Milton slid loot see the remedy of enlarging the time. The House snick proceed impart to-morrow. 'The Order was then read, and After a few words-from Mr. IiROINIFBIif, the Order of:the Day was diseTterged, and the further proceeding in a Committee of the whole House filed tier 'Friday . Orders were then issued to command the attendance of a 'number of witnesses from Dublin. ;Pbe Caplet' of the Panels of the different Commissions for the year via were 'ordered to be laid mn the Table,, anti the Clerk of the Crown to attend the Hdnse. Sir FitAjP.3B WILDE:VT presented a Petition from 1 Tithes of taneachsre, praying for Parliamentary Ittform.—Ordered tn'be printed. toed WHEN? (after aV few wovils from tthe CHAN CELLOR of the LXOIIEQUER) postponed until the 12th of May, his Motion in favour of the English Ca tholics. Lord J. RUSSDLL presented a Petition from the . Cowan, of ifuntinroton, in favour Eif Itfor tn. Lord EliltlNG'f ON book that opportnuity of statist', that a-similar Petition bad been • agreed to, without w dissentient voice, at a most respectable and 'numerous meeting of the County of Devon. The Petition bad not yet readied his hands, as it was circulating in the Coatt• ty for signa•ures. The Petition was laid on the Table, and ordered to be printrJ. store Mime difeeetiti - r 'ter lit etilitiel eta ta l e ikiiTeltill • slissenibldbew. litetatif4biltilnafbe *is notia this di le'''. miiitfote4o tio i ti r aePteledisoisisisitsityosipalWag down a notietiar ' ilisir It etaftelltetie he original Mate. mere ;lomatisdhe wanted .to repair it. The suit objection to Reform was; thathowevet: the Moose miight be con stituted, it hilly performed Ai duty ; end that it virtual ly, though not actually, raptelentrol the.p t esipler 11 an swer tertilit lie 'begged to observe, tifin lie hod examined the ptiblichedlLAlta bf the tovi`evelklitiorities Mid Mined -401.10 thatHliaga it pod itsportesit queetione f . be had in ken 45 of those whowere returned tot stisall . places.aed an equal number of those who .were_ retainedfor large Ones, and'heldund that of the latter is voted for 51inis tere,eatd •30 •against 'tkehi; roil of the fernier, 33 for them. end at grainst them. lie though; it .was im possible td get over this. circumstance, for it clearly shewed that the smaller number of persons:went diarct ly igninet the Tesler.. 'He irnald now state &d or two ietteaces of inbserviency ttilkiVireten, in opp?sltion t,, A he:dictates of the rniiide offho' Megabyte Itsetisiefees. 14w mould mike the votes OW the 4;otholic staiiition its the year 1812. The Catbolikgaimasvere Isriiight,for ward io Apriti in' that xest.. bi lap ar1t.. 4 9:. Pill were opposed by Mr. Vereettil.hheii Trinsdagniatet, sand . shat votes 'were Male Iliadied Oiralifit the Aillllm and • Sao handsel . and fifteen for .them. - la oho newt mos& alt i Primeval fell by theiusiAlof ko alt‘ Bo4 4 1 4-- . Ailnileiitilleibe 'vies 'formed, about half of which...want a fa' *oar.; and half against them, aloha. I'hey il'itiidikt;oiht forward ably two months •sifterwards. by theltight Ran. Gentleman apposite (11r:Plunkett)land the numbrere m ia favour of the'Clahns, 225; Sp a lint them l - it. WIN it poalblwfor all - those Members to have reeettestinittAkelons ea tbe subject. In two month', eadiclent neweifidlOmmis a chaige of opinions es was indicated by-these nitokiers 1— Upenntadther °cession, lathe /ear 181 1. the Timm/stale to 0 assOltition, .that the Ciressisay 'hid . not 'under/Otis pity chino: yet they were, at.that tinrehporsiimiag.ipiditterwto receive increased salsifies expreselgon thystound that the otrrreney bad &tonged. Andther cilijordiii tblte'forin eno sisteelase Iimp:KIWI, that when that 114411, allettale opi nion (rein thepenple, it-ens brow infortmlatthmtfalieork• If this werdthefect.lt Would be discovered ifierviards by the expteri*lseenst ithe people themselves. Oaths teat feet was, that that Mouse had Viten been eompelhal to tetrad its steps by the complaints originating in the betletiadgeatet Of the people. This was proved by ion reduction bf the htricd• milligry force atoned by 'the Meese :la tient l at the desire of the Gevernment ; Ind which the peo ple afterwards .proved was not .necessary's: AM In a, latti Instance of the reduction of the tae .addithailal•-•• . Lords et the. Aarnisalty. Theee fasteners comfit 'to show that the House of *Commons stas.not . bettift•pisie to judge of public affairs disc the people theemereet; The misuse which he should propose for theirristance'whlgh he hadshewn, would be that which he had miggeeted lam year, that one hundred Members should La sakes from the small's: Voroughs, and added to the Counties. Re thonghtt ttoweS,tr. that compensation should be •allowed tolfte i e rdprieeurs of those floronglis ;'and he would topper% say)empekil f r such a measure, having that ter its object. ttatagani 31r. Pitt's plan, and his own op t nivn was , that • wilifilairWoold 'be whWy expended for Mich a puipoie. 114 last ohjOe i.;:i he would notice, which was uried asainatirart:itmentary Refer., was in the assumption that poblio opinion was a tuflcient eounmpoiss to corruption. liletbOuttlat, however. with a Noble Friend of hie. tint the Manse insteed of bei.!g e representation of the people, and a check upoO the Crou was • regesentation et Abe Crown, sod a (heck linen t!te She people. Iletif Metre s assamed were correct, was this the boasted Constitution which was said to be the admira tion of earroanding nations I Wits It minor to At that mitigate nett were counterpoised by en enlightened pco pi I' .Heted no doubt timtpabllc opinion operated to cot.- real many resits; but the more it was • proved that public opinion bed acquired importonee. the more did it fellow that site pubic Institutions shon:d cnithent 'to that. .opinicia.' , In this view: of the question, fib tad kit year brought forward a variety iff, lett* to 'he* the increased idtelligeard of tiro peopfe; Mid be woe Mali ban- Itge swe red tbat.this proved, the eget Iletr,:o. of the rgaiiat. He Could not assent to thieCbgtPhillia: ' He ad .the opi nion of a person who united iAidCm and vitt Ao a de gree which he bad never known before,'(ldeinehan Pro fessor Playfair.) who held that the public iitatitutions of .i country sisualti conform to the state of infqinsetlisp of its people ; and who was decidedly of oplitiott that rho want of this conformity had done muck towards brlngin4 about the French Revelation. It was true the 'people were enlighteaed ; but they wooed not be satisfied wit!' the power of expressing their opinion ja Newspaper., and of Critleiiing a Government they could not contralti. In fact, the question was not whether Reform should 'take place, bat whether it should take place . now. or to morrow.; whether it should proceed frown .the ciandisils of 'rite "tneh. Or he brought . about by public storms.. l:flie stream cst politic Opinion Pas irresistible. aticl A • Hplitic babinleshin to it would teittease the splendoar Ina tore the security of the Got animist. ,The Noltle : :lAwd.cPTV andel tymoving a.ltesalitiou— t' That the preaentstate of the Representation requires the most serioatikaeotion of this House." . Lord NORMANDY seconded the motion: *•lt Sir E. If. East and Mr. R. Valid opposed t o which was supported by Mr. Ward( ,t Sir Johs'iqe rt. SirT. Lethbridge and Sa P. Illske. Tat flouts then t id. ed—For the Motion, 169—Agratleat It . 21 30—MaJtirt$j. A A. _The other Orders of the Day werodisposeilst r uaLfhe House adjourned at half-past elerse. - . •••••'s • - • • ..,. By a hie of Royal Gazelle. yesterday receive* hbot Jamaica, we learn that fattens have been veselite*Mina La VeraCrne, which state that the 10,006 men Wfidillere besieging that city, had declared for the tliartgrber,' n 1 had guarenteed the life of !tnrbide ;ill thaittp fv%O 14 , t assemtl9.: He, however, was ifterwarslo. jet isv&i. 0 l'. bed ollitae piWie parade.. The CONFiffs.. w Jlitid flirt . witbpst:44 1, In order t.' re4atabliaAylhn •CnnA:ttino.t which aXiited, iskosioua . to. the .nsurpation. .#4ltia :14 Onzeifein4filtb rokroorir Contain a dispatch feveu:ll,l. Near, dated Panto, 9th January. He had . just heord• of the stems of Morales, nod wig to bis'lnatcb to Cooduct the casiptaige itgalitat hien. '-i :' Sailed, on Sunday ritornlnt: . fer Ifolyhead, to prciene4 We .. London, respecting the delicate 'and weighty cbsegn;:ivadet by the *matey-General Against tire Comnalsvon . Grao4. ,/,',. Jury, ot2annary last, a depdtation„ efittsieting or Mir (40.-4' Whiteford, Arthur PerSie, Jolept 11., •Aluiire, tinMuell Warren, Stiteph Lamprey; J4ll, _Twyernia, Aid CriVee Tborp„Mirls.s!teriff, golsa.-ripnttincitin. Post t ) The Kee. Mr. Kenny rend -Ids miletinti. eecaetation. of the errors of * the Church of Hoene, in ('writ, no •rienday se'mvight.' The cnietstated Oeographltr. A. Artdstaniiils; Wei. whose taureiti' a clatiF-tratetbr of Mara nriof charts Is 31 Wed known tot dinchoet,' Europe and Atobt)ii, died atlas house, in SclOignire, cn Wednei.lay unirning; In (ti's 74th year., . • • . Townsliend completed his task of fifty miles per day - , c twelve hours, half badkwards, yesterday evening, at talc*. minutes before eight. Yesterday the Loki Mayor held a Wordenote in the IT A. • of Gables 1116spltal, at three .o'cll-RE, for the election of att Alden-rear of the Ward of flevehegvilli Within, in the room of the late T. Smith, Esq., when John . Crowdei, lemp l itte Deputy of the Ward, was umbrimodaly elected. -` 6 : To READERS of Weatt.X r.tr N is.—lget4dtertistments uhatever are inserted in the Itichtlinaiite . Sunder sew,- paper. which is a :large folio Joerold or annntisnirtenns, of the same size. as Tim Onsaujiae, It is regularly puplisited every Sunday morning, at the earl' honedf fear o'clock: at Neves. Smith's, 11,2,8trand, IlAwsion. Tim piles .of Thu . . EPUL _ ISDMRN 4 Seyearence. . L•r_ta __ . . . • ' MALLS. AIM • nut. I art. 11114 0 1 .... ... . . . . 0.... Waterforth 1 ' 1. • Heights.... 1 & Jersey. 0.... rshee [ 0.. hisbon Yin adnrs .O 1 otteabwg . • ..0 . • •31 • PARLLAMENTARY REFORM. Lord JOHN RUSSELL thenoom end said, it became Iris fluty to renew the motion he had made lest year, and call the attention of the. House to the Petitions which lny upon theaable, calling upon the Home f w Reform. Numerous Petitions of this description were before the Houle, and there wonlil be others, if many of those who tricolored with the Petitioners in their opinion of the 1 ,necessity of Reform, did not consider the petitioning of the Donee areperfertly 'useless. Among those Petitions Imes one kenithe county of York. the like of which be believed bad neverbefore been laid upon that table. It was signed by 17,000 resident freeholders, each stating hie rendenceond his property; and among those pd.' tions too. though it was net yet laid upon the table, was that of the +City of Edinburgh, containing some of the runt intelligent persons in the country. Ile use fully- aware of the difficulty be bad to eticoanter in pleading', the cause of those petitioners; a ditlicnity not Jemmied by the redeetion that he - woe accusing those who were so • bit the lodges of the .eanse itself; sad that thetlearer he made out hie care of rsecasation, the more certain wookH he the sontewee - agniner htm:' fie thought it singular' too, tint although the Cabinet was divided tipaa many impermat guestiods, it wad perfectly united ppi t p:l s ts. liefeed thst brought fltelldrof before ill Abe Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, who was the great opposer of all Parliamentary Reform, had been highly advanced, and had been called upon to undertake what wastealled the management of that House.— The Right Hanourable Secretary was therefore under the necessity of coming to closer quarters wilt the system of corruption; to decide upon the giving of the Peer a ge to one, office another, and to distribute other rewards in proportion 'to the number of seats possessed by the objects of them. He fain would have hoped.that the Right 'Hon. Secretary would have been disgusted at ouch employment, and would bare been content to di stain the support of an intelligent people represented by an honest Parliament. He now came to the subject itself. He presemed he might advance, as a proposition not to ,be denied, that that House, which was the Constitutional. Guardian of the Public parse, should be as well guarded arapossible, against any of its Members becoming the sc compliteiref those whom it was their date to check. To aceouiplish this there were two principal means :—One' was, by excluding from that House those who held office. under the Crown ; the other was, by giving the people, from time to time, opportunities to re-elect their Repres suntatives, or to choose others ; and this was the way ex pressly poietedout by the Constitution. lie did mean to contend that the Constitution called fora representation of public opinion, as it might decorate from day to day. He meant ; he asked for, a fair mode of, and a fair time for trying the RepreseeloCres of die People. Eie.Vitegv titer disclaimeritheldiagreich had been *rowed, that a 'majority of the Howie Of Commons should be formed by the Crown. and tho ficoMe of Lords. I n support of his own Opinion on %hie subject, he could quote that of a pertain formerly a Member of that House, trio, to la solid jcidgmenk ignited the most inflexible integrity. tit meant fair J. Lowther, the first Lord Lonsdale. the Noble Loind then proCeeded to meet the different objections which had beep urged atrainst Parliamentary Reform. It -hid been sane that places of little population had long returned Members to Parliament. But to this he answered, that it was not until the Revolntion that the mischief was felt. in the lima of Charles the Second the Haunt reptesental the people. lie might state many instances in the pretest day, of direct nomihation and overbearing indenrce; but , they were well known. an I perticulorly to the Members of that Home. lie shonld therefore confine' himself to general remits; for the Right Hon. Secretary had said on' a former occasion that the details were admitted. lie' found, that out - of the 513 Memheis whet sat in that ' House for lingland; no lest than 290, a large majority, sent by MOW electees. So that, in the outset' he shoved. that a majarity'vf the English Members was seat by per sons' not greater in smother than thorn> who had signed the Yorkshire Petition for Reform.—(Hear, hear tett thought this tact alone wet conclnaive to call fer in qniey. Then it was °blotted that toe practice, as it" new stood, had been the sane at all times of our hi-tort'; and pArtientarty dtring the reign of Ebealret h. Irk answer, was that such a practice might snit th• people of those 'times, but were not suitable to the people of the present. They ware now sOffudently informed to desire that a stop might he put to these corruptions. It Was said also, that if she Parliament was corrupt, the people were snore corrupt Char the Parliament. he did not believe;. sal Hilt* House %timid bear in reinerobranee the acts of profligacy which were exposed in therm of the llorongb of Grampotind, and compare them with the way in which tie elective franchise of that place wont' be exercised in Sorkshlre ' to whirl' it had beat tran.ferred, the assertion ;Weald he completely refit ed. Indeed h thought It ;would be found reference to the general manner in whirl (*only elections were carried on. It was objected and that thole whoa advocated Reform, ought either to re- I ~~ u _.i:.`.4 =~~r • ~: {; i