The Statesman. — London, England, 1820-09-23 00:00:00

THE STATESMAN. Proper arrangements were filially made for an early resentation of t he addiess by the member!. for South .' ark, and the principal initabitaws of the parish of 4t. Saviour, which is what is called a (Wit ind unconnected with the other parishes which f Ull• statute the borlmlth. Meth this mark of her regard, and they could awl but accept her offer with grateful feelings.—(Hear, hear!) —ln his opinion it would not have degraded the Lord Mayor to have made the communication to the ll'oort, coming, as it did, front the Queen of Eugland.—{Hear, hear.)—They were indebted to the IVorthy Alderman for bringing it before them, otherwise they might never have received it. The Lord Mayor, acting in a Ministerial capacity, shoold not have consulted his politics, but ought to discharge his public duty to that Court. The eureling bruke up at niue &duck. COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL. ---•1-- 1 Yesterday a Court of Common Council was held. I !,6 take into consideration sev e ral question s o f import. .7110 Ire. Mr. Ot.nn.tss rose, he said, to put a question to the Lord Mayor. He saw a statement in the newspapers, cotuplaining of the neglect of certain Magistrates„ notwithstanding the proceedings of that Court, where the conduct of certain Aldermen was made the sub. jest of a Report : it was stated, that Mr. Alderman Ansley had neglected his duty as a Sitting Magistrate at the Justice Room of the Old Bailey for one whole week, When he (Mr, Oldham) presented a report to Lord Sidtmmth, stating that the City could not spare the attendance of .4' 'ertnen to command the City Militia, the !Thera lo 'toted that lie did not recollect any instance of neglect on the part of any of the Aldermen; the lientlematt might, a idiom much .i...letsce to his no ,.. have recollected come in. I'ARCP4 of that kind, but hr acted then as a kind of .N. 4 ,mi ri,ordn stuff [a laugh, and cries of " Order!"] Ilse question he would now put was, whether the Coort of A Mermen had taken :sly steps to render the asJininistration of justice in the City more punctual and regular ? It would depend on the answer of his Lordship, witrther the Court should take any proceed. log on the subject ? _. . M - I)tluN expressed his hope that her Majesty would come wit of tit.: ordeal of inquiry with a pare The Lotto as.cYon said, that he had seen the dr oimatance stated in the papers. With respect to Mr. Alderman Ansley, he would refrr the Gentlemen to the Sheriff (Bothwell), who was much better able to state th:• nature of the attendances of Magistrates at :he Justice Doom of .the Old Bailey. The business of Magistrates had greatly increased, and it was diffi cult to get gentlemen of respectability to attend. Mr. Sheriff RoTetwat.t., in a low tone of voice, said t!lat he was nut aware of any neglect on the pert of Mr. Alderman Ansley at the Justice Ruott► at the Old Bailey. Mr. OLnifau said, he mentioned the Justice•room at Guildhall. The &trttt►r said, he understood the (kitties= to have issentionell the ingtiee-room at the Old Bailey. Mr. OLDII.C-:—Thtn, if I did, it was a mistake. The Surnter—With respect to Guildhall Justice rootn. I cannot say any thing of the :Men lance of Magistrates at that office. Tux Alderman Ws:roman said, he hal a comtntiniestion bunt her Shjesty to make to the Cart [hear ! hear !]. He had received a letter from • Worthy Magistrate now absent, inclosing a paper signed '• Matthew Wood," which he would now read. It WAS as follows : " f 0 TUN LONG MATO,. A NENIFIrd, •Mlib CON/lON COUNCIL or LON DOX " I am commanded br her Majesty the Queen to re quest that the Corporation of London will accept of the Portrait of her Majesty, as a testimony to the City of Londoo of the gratitude she feels towards the Corpora- Con of the first city in the world, for the sincere and zealous loyalty they have ever ananifested in the cause of the Queen." tie (Alderman Waithman) waited on the Lord Ayer to present the communicat . to hitu ; not tivaling him at bottle, he wrote a letter W bis Ltd shit', ea/losing the communication, revesting him to present it to the Court. lie received ass amasser tide morning from the Lord Mayor, which he would read : The Lord Mayor presents Isis compliments to Mr. Mennen Walthman, and returns him the paper signed • Matthew W• 041.. The Lord Mayor must decline lay in.. it before the Conrt of Compton Council , because , under existing cirs'uilistances, be felt it would be incon sistent with his duty to meddle in an affair of GO much Importance." Ile (the Alderman) would not say whether the ford Mayor had acted right ur not ; but it occurred to him that his Lordship, actinc in hi. Ministerial capacity, was the proper channel through which that paper ought to be presented to the Conrt. lie, however, de clined doing so, and he (the .tlderman) would now make that communication u he would also submit a motion on the snhject, that the offer of her Majesty's portrait he gratefully accepted by this Court, and that the Thanks of the Court he returned to her Majesty fur this mark of her gracious condescension and re gard fur the Corporation and Citizens of London. He knew that nothing was nearer the heart of her Ma jesty than the good of the City of London; nothing m tile a deeper impression on her mind than their generous conduct toward% her. She took this manner to testify her regard awl her gratitude, as it was the only means in her power of 'hewing her sentiments towards them. Mr OLDUA:I rose to second the Resolution, but be confessed that a happier moment might have been se lected for presenting the letter in question. It wits doe to the Court to receive the communication, though presented at a moment when they would make up their minis 'spots the imputed guilt, or the expected ianocence of her Majesty. He hoped that she would cease out of the investigation pure and unsullied, and then 11% was sure that every Member of the Court oeuld wish to see the portrait of her Majesty hung up in the Common Council Chamber—(hear). It was unfortunate that they could nut now go to as great lengths as they would wish, but they would not do ololetteo to their feelings or their judgment, to re rein with meet and gratitude the picture which she wet pleaded to oiler them, Nrwl to return thei r respect. lime ameba to her Majesty. He was glad that the He. wisdom slept jest there. If it went an iota further, he would (eel it his duty to vote to reject it, and be believed the majority of the Court would concur with ben. faratt said, be would not say any thing that slight provoke a debate. Coneultiag their character and Lenoir, the Court email do as other thee accept with grateful feelings the tribute which her Majesty 1 wt. pleated to pay them. Could. be ask, any one I doubt the pfroptiety of the fawner decisions 'of the Court with respect to her ' illsjeety. Mace the. Court hid marital *air ilastiap Sows* her • and she re ceived theeesperatioa is aisa slassismaest meaner ? It wee snared, *erten,, tist kit Majesty Amid -.pew. charade!. ; then would I , e as %tilling as any man to bear his humble testimony in her favour ; bat it was his opinion that the Court had not acted wisely in their former interference, an I they ought n .1 again to interfere pending the proceedings against her Majesty. Should her Majesty come pore out of the inquiry, it woulol be almost their duty to request that she would honour them with her portrait ; hut he would hot hold up his hand in favour of the lirsoolotion, considering it, as he did, an inconsiderate art. Ile would nut how ever, hold up his hand against it. Mr. PEACIit K thought that it was not the ditty of the lewd Mayor to present the communication to the Court, but that it came inure appropriately from the Worthy Alderman. Mr. T. .1. Witou sus said he would wish to pay every mark of res;wet towards her Majesty, but he thought that pending the investigation, it was too ouch to ask them to accept of her Majesty's portrait, -s-(a laugh)—that was the way of judging of the lartgls.)—The nation would say, that we accepted of this preset': with satisfaction—(hear, hear)—and that after hearing the charges against her Majesty—(hear, bear)—and the evidenre that sup ported those rharges—(hear, hear)—without having heard any evidence un the other side.—(clear, hear). So that they must be already convinced of her isno cence.—(Cries of hear, hear.)—inch must be their im pression when they accepted of the picture of her Ma jesty with pleasure and satisfaction.—(Cheers.)—This would he the inference which would be drawn by every Corporation iu the kingdow.—(hear, hear.)— Would they wieh that su:11 an impression should go forth?— (Hear, hear.)—Then, if unfortunately, the two Houses of Parliament should ilegr.ode her Majesty, what a lamentable situaCoA ivAuld they be in ? It was better, in his opini , on, et , yr the couimunieation of her Majesty on their Journal., and then it would be competent for them, At aii) future period, to have the picture hung up in the Cournion Council Chamber. Mr. 11k1EFIT116 wishes! to know what harm it would do them to accept the gracious offer of her Majesty. on what ground would they attempt to refuse it ? lie was aware, that un any question, however obvious. or however popular, one or two could be always found to throw It lute the back groom], hut the Court could du nothing but accept with gratitude the offer of ber Majesty. at large. He Mined on this position as on a rock, and., should the Lord Mayor resist the declared opinion of the Court, there would be an end to their privileges. Highly as they might respect the Chief Magistrate, they still could not surrender their privileges out of respect for his feelings. It would, in fact, introduce a system which would lead to their ruin as a public body. He would ask thaw to look at the decision that had been just made, four ur tire against one hundred, Were ever the sentiments of the Court score unequivo cally expressed ? Was the Lord Mayor to controul the expression of t boor sentiments ? Mr.OLDnam said that his Lordship was called on to act ministerially. It was his duty to obey the wishes of the Court. He was not to have any feelings of his own, at least he was not to indulge those feelings against the obvious calls of duty. Mr.Dixow said the Lord Mayor of London was placed 1111 oft awkward situation.—(A laugh.)—He thought his Lordship ought to be allowed some discretion. Suppose tientlemen proposed and decided that his Lordship should take physic, was he bound therefore to take it ?--(A laugh)—He moved as an Amendment, *at the S!ierilf be requested to attend with the Lord *woe on her 3lajesty. Mr. Alderman Warrmosse did not look on the wait lag on her Majesty to convey to her the gratitude of the City of London as a task, he thought it an office of honour.—(Hear.)—The Lord Mayor was the head of the Corporation, but it wa not assumed that his Lord ship always concurred in their opinions. He acted in a ministerial rapacity: lie (Alderman Waithusan) felt, that if he had proposed to convey the sentiments of the Corporation throne+ any other channel, he would de serve the censure of the Court, for it would be convey ing a marked disrespect to the Lord Mayor, it would be holding out an insinuation that his Lordship would' hesitate to perform his duty. The Lord Mayor's sen timents were well known. As well might it be sup posed if they voted an Address of Thanks to Lord Chatham, for conducting the Walcheren Expedition, that the Lord Mayor, by conveying that rote to his Lordship, concurred in the cute as that he concurred is the sentiments embraced in the Resolution which they had just adopted. He was sorry that his Lord ship's feelings were hurt ; it was true indeed that it had physiced him, he had only to regret that the physic operated so powerfully upon him.---(A laugh.) The Loan Msttia said that he hail, from a sense of duty, gone up with former Addresses to her Majesty. I But feeling as he ditl, he hoped the Court would have excused him on the present occasion. As Lord Mayer,l his name appeared at the head of all those useasores, and many of his hien& in the country had asked w►e-' thee he had concurred in those measures. He still . hoped they would excuse his attenda.a The motion was put and carried. Mr. Altl , lltiall WAITIIII %X next moved that it be" referred to the Committee of City Loads.. to report the most appropriate situation in th e Hell of th e Common Council to place the picture of her Majesty. SI r. Alderman Wsteticsx said, that the Corpora- Mr. T. J. WlLLlA;lll.objecti - pd to the aeons. Hon of London had witnessed and opposed acts of ep• Mr. WthLtaca (Sherbroleot) moirsidercei that the peession against her Majesty. such sr were never motion was one which, after having accepted of the witnessed before.—{hear, hear.)—They had supported picture and returned thanks to her lillajesty, they her Majesty under those trials—they supported her were bound to entertain. with the people, whose respect and alfeatios she per Mr. Monts' felt himself bound to dissent from the sitsseil.—(Hear, hear.)—They, as men, could not have nsotioe as it stood. He agreed that it was their duty to acted any other part. If the Corporation had wit. receive the picture, that it was their deer to relent tressed 'hose acts of oppression nonsoresi--if they had thanks to k h e er Maj esty for it; but whilst ma isquiry was out slept forward in favour of her Majesty—if they E s sa u t i e n i f cha w ast i s i er d u a u l t H A r s ee t i t u o tiu p i l r a y ce ter th ut a l t r a i r e r ° I ; the ' waited until the 101 l title of charge had been let is motion was, that the Committee sfiould Report lisit upon her, their interference afterwards would be *se- ;ace to hang the pktnre, he would agree to the ' less and insulting to her, and neither dignified or Is it he would not agree to a proposithau oil& manly 211 reflecting un themselves. He simply wished pledge them to place it at once in the Cameo On i by the Resolution to convey to her Majesty the gnt i. I Chamber. He had no doubt hut that there was a rail trade of the Court. He et as hot surprised at the uh• e deal► of false evidetw given spinal her Majesty—.(fieer i bear!).—He had no doubt but that the queen had been serrations which fell from some Uenlemen, when grievously ill-treated—almost from the very day that he recollected the sentiments they had expressed she had married the King—(Hear hear!).—He had 00 on a former occasion ; they were perfectly consisteut doubt hat that a vast conspiracy had been formed agalast In the line they tick. He would beg, however, ber.—(Hear, hear!).—Vet he was not prepared to is; to make one observation, in answer to a Cieutleman that the priure firri case made out did not call torsos* (Mr. Williams). 'I hat tientleman said, suppose answer from her Majesty. When that answer droold the two Houses of Parliament should pronounce be sati t sfacturily h given, t.• .1 . 1, and not till then, would he • leer picture is the Loaned Chamber. He her Majesty guilty, how lamentable then will be agree rreuld the p ref ac ore more as an amendment, that the words the condition of the Corporation ? He conceived o r-omulon Council Chamber" be left out of the &so that their situation would not be lamentable; they lotion. would, on the contrary, be placed in a dignified and Mr. Favau. thought, that after the Resolution which the Court hail come to—after having gratefully received honourable condition [ sear!], whilst the two Houses the picture of her Majesty, the .ttstenchnent of his friend of Parliament would be themselves in a lamentable measure. The Committee might a and degraded situation [hear, hear:]. Looking at the ;Link it to hang upn extraordinary the picture is the most obscure part evidence that had been given , and those by whom it of OttilJliall; would the Court agree to that i—Would was given—looking to the bribes and threats that they sot rather, having accepted her Majesty's picture, were held out against her Majesty—and, in short, to give it the most honourable place? all the circumstances of this extraordinary and re- Mr. Dixost said, they were asked to vete that the rolling case, he would say, that even should both *ism shmiti oe placed in the Council Chamber Houses of Parliament decide against her Majesty, it oc witleent knowing the size of it, or the space It might would not alter, in the slightest degree, his opinion 1 Ilr. f a esitsom said, they were called on to suspend of her Majesty'. cordite' (hear, hear I—it would not i t h e i r j u d gments , h eehaw a prime /ode goose was ends remove the deep impression of her innocence which I out ; bet his reply was this—that seeing the Court 100 he felt [hear, hear!]. An honourable Heutletnan had unconstitutional and unjust, no argument mold arise 'talked of an impression going abroad that her Mir l'as to the et:ideal*. eon before it. He objected to the . jrsty will out guilty. Who was afraid of that ire- t i ;Ant leol,ertlnseett, because it wa s inconsistent with all the Re ttion,s tney had f ormer ly passed, bu t , with the Rego. pression ; and who doubted but that it was already I lotion they had passed that day. They had accepted deeply made on the public mind ? [hear, hear.] The I, the honourable tribute which her Majesty paid them,' Court had that impression (hear 1. On this subject • and lie was Gee that if t h e Amendment were pressed to there was hut one generous feeling pervading the a division, and if that amendment should be carried, it 'whole kingdom [cheers]. would be carried only on this ground, that the Coarsen- dment in . w mit ie entirely cencerred.—They would I The yiestion was then put and carried, almost ask. tertained the highest opinion of the Committee -- a sew . nimously ; four or fise hands having been only held up exalt the picture of her Majesty ia the highest plan of against it. • Ammar torisillesinceel by any question which might be Mr. Alderman W•trismart next came forward, and pending before an noconstitutional tribusaL moved, that the Lord Mayor be requested to convey The Loan Mattis said, that if the tientleman meant to her Majesty the thanks of the Court to call the highest tribunal in the country an unconsti. . The Loan Marisa, with winch agitation, rose. He tntiosaltri banal, he would not sit there to bear such ex said that he did not think such a motion would have f e Hr. Pumas said, that his Lordship most have 'Wa imea put. The Coed knew what his sentiments were reedmowd Me eiesi d hit t that tetheas i , however high they would, he hoped, *cow him. Though he had 1111111nerciSiag foredoom which the constitution had set abstained from giving an opinion before, he wouldn't, OM* to it ; it was therefore tanconatitotionaL He did gay, that he considered the measure both mania, aid son deny their high fanctiens , or their competency to officious. The question was now under the Wefts tlieeherlie t h e ir ilstiee , hilt Al acted " this 11 1•IrY as decision of the High Court of Parliament. and pendhig pieeestlietleesl tribentl. Se had net said soy t i lnellist was trot Heady expressed la • the Itneletiews that investigation, he thought it was nut advisable f or a titcet,t_(Hct. certain woman wore reed.) the Corporation to interfere.l The Less Mans Ind that the "spineless they Mr. Fat KLI. would not wish to force any thingsmille eanseined wove very diffseent from doom mod hr Ili. Lord Mayer that would be distressing to his teases 8 hem& but he considered this a serious gamine of prit il ea Nth Melanesia W Amman I. GPM{ Oa 11011 1 00 lie tend wet het seespisis o b llte large, he. The Lord Mayor bad a duty to perfuming! he s air thilegbe 041. .wore a (Wiled. w ifrapes I le called on to perform it. tie had. In desk y the right .11.116.7 1111111.11"1"" HMI " 46 4 or" 11101 M give his *pieces is that mutt, but el PODS II all ilia jest wail, 0.. V Owe issupapiese mew OD 06 al l'esart had decided. that derides wee not to beowaliag• i holds ass wait li, in need. illd insilit at 4164 ' I dthe opines of the Lewd Mayer. hilt ales Cesvessies I silliiik. • ... Mr. PEARSON said, that his Inzic taught him, thoa i l, he did not study thesameschosl Lord Matur, that where a body enerciees fnoctions whirl ' the stitution never vested in them, they art as an iicoissri. tutional body—{Bear, hear !).-11e would not waste the time of the meeting, hat he thought that it was for the honour of the Corporation, and to mark the sem. ti o , entertained of her Xlajeety, and to place her pictur e it the most honourable satiation. The Court divided—when there appeared For the Original Motion, . MI Fur the Amendment, • • 41 Majority for the Amendment. —4 REPORT RELATIVE TO TOE ig. The consideration of this Report was postponed !vibe next Court day. The adjouineti consideration of the Report of the Special Cou►►nittce relative to the Sheriff. was also pos t , potted to the nest Cnurt After il.sposin, of some private business, the Coat ad• juurned at live u clock. FOR THR STATESMAN. _......-- TO THE REV. J. W. CUNNINGHAM. SlR,—Paver wars of a Femmel nature, an d eye , (billy between Clergymen, are fin A finer pleas a nt. I A ss addre you therefore under the signatu re o f Cl er i cs*. As you have taken upon yourself t o reprove Ilf. Whitbread for calling a meeting in a parish where pm have no right to interfere, (and foe one deermut to interfere with the parish of another clergym an v „„ know to he indecent anal uiscanunic:d), I shall, as a clergyman, ask yo u a few questions. ___. . . I. Whether a Hill of Pain. am! Penalties is a way to promote that " just juilimient" which a Christian Minister ought to promote 2. Do you think that leaders and rukn of the people, like Mr. Whitbread, ought hot to presort jut judgment ? And how are they to promote it, hat by constitutional meetings in opposition to pewit and influenre on the side of what they think injustice? 3. Whether a divorce should be granted to a soak being a King, under circumstances in which Basket' man could obtain one ? 4. Whether it is consistent with your Christie' Profession to support the degradatio.i of a wentaa, even supposing the evidence be as good as it appears good for nothing, when the husband must be a party to the degradation of the wife a bile she is his wife, and having sworn at the altar to lure, honour, and cherish that wife w long as she is his wife ? 5. Whether a State necessity dues not necessarily imply souse necessary good to the people, and whether a persecution which might hare been asoidad and which is at all events productive of great mischief, and is against the general sentiment of the people, is the way to conciliate an irritated and groaning people, and whether an insolent contempt of the feeling et a people is congenial to the principles of a Christian liorernment ? I do net agree with the Editor of this Parr, that clergymen arc to be escludeil from politics; but I think they ought to endeavour to blend the mild spirit of Christianity with the conduct of law and government; and I, for one, will always press this adatiztare "en rulers, whe.lier Whig or Tory, and will glory to re- commend the covering an infirmity and the passing by of a transgression, and especially when the party complaining anti seeking redress is also himself com passed with infirmity. Your's, CIALEICIAL P.S. One or two more questions may asked. What does Mr. Cunningham mean by .saying that dogma may, before the end of a month, be proved piny ? Will the passing of the Bill prove her guilty asd would any common jury in England pronosece a Ttr• diet of guilty upon the testimony now before the Lords ? Ard Cleric's asks this question ass Magid:W. and sometimes Chairman of a Sessions, as well m a Clergyman. Flanders Papers, of a late date, hare arrived, from which the following are extracts : Viastras, Sart% 4.—Field-Marshal Count Nugest. late Captain•lienerat at Napbs, has arrived in this city ; also Baron Libezeltern, Minister Pksipoten tiary from Austria to the Court of Russia. It seems now beyond doubt that oar CAW will confine itself to disapprasing openly the events which have taken place at Naples, and that it will a 4 &- elms even against that country. The Austrian army which is approaching the frontiers of Piedmont still take, as it is said, the denomination of Army of Ob servation of the Po. Cardinal Ituffu, Ambassador from the King of the Teo continues to reside here, thongh his letters of recall were brought hiss by the young Duke of Serra Capriolo, who passed through here on his way to Warsaw, where he an• nautseesl to the lisuperor Alexandvr the speedy arrival of the Prince of Citnitilli, who is charged with a spe cial mission to bins. Cardinal Buffo has not laid aside the Red cockade, and continues to protest sialasl the changes which have taken place in the government of this country, FIAMILIUAT, Sams. 10.—A Berlin paper asserts, with as air of cosfidence, that the tisit of die Ca perste Alexander to Wainer will hare the moat to. portant cossequenees. Reports are in circulation here, founded on mer cantile marrespondesme, that the King of Sardinia has resolved that his army shall be speedily placed oa tke war establishment. Uuaer, Saes. 17.—A journal, which wort for official, announces the Doke of Wellington Is Cagairg to this country. His (brace's visit is probably to seemist of the fortifications of °hen', Termoode, aid Os lesianie. usenet of kola , mitred this morning from Cork. Sept. 14:--" We have par: based to-day LOU. stem of oats, at id. per . stone, 14 lb. Wheat Is. lA. aid barley M. Pork at i4s. per cwt. Bed. Ittls. Deo Nato's% pls. A low Pbabbelphia paper has the failswiat SNOW j Paosa liaass A .-..capt. Sothis of the golst, Croastatit 11th Aube, and has brought &vesicles for hos the Amatiewt Wok** as lit. Peon bttewho watt *hoot to embark fie Warr, A Mas simo INS la Ivo soil of She limy sod ass, mann ww ask Nay ode siberemetedt, bad bail & oat from lie Irnalt4 Aiwa* lbw woe 8414;011111i 11194611104 but she doottoadoo of these arassaestas Woo kW Itokre• Thaw wiaosiowl a review of 40,1 0 1 • awls by . lie isrfprees. . . Ai • ,~. r p r k .~ gr