The Statesman. — London, England, 1819-05-05 00:00:00

THE STATFAMAN: had been defended upon the principle, that as there was • certain quantity of vice in all communities, a Minister was justified in turning to his own account 1 1 what be co u ld not ext i rpate. Bet too doctrine, that private airrs wets public benefits bad been com pletely exploded. It might be said, that the transaction seaprclistg the Lottery did not arise from Missisiers 'tentative*. liot it was an eltLeuvl • tree *+f I% qef Odd per allure , fedi per sr; and It was a als a and • naiades' that the Muse or SE* Goternl ens should senetioe • such procood.l logs. The a . ..ton was also bed as a meesere of tipsier.; for wilat was morally wrong could never 1 he politically right. Direct pleader was little bet. ter than this mode, by which a man was mode to pay 1 1001. for 11. that be received. The system was also essconstitettorud, hove the powers entrusted to the gents of the Lottery ; as nembers were imprisoned ins consequence of the comenseierttioes of cements its. formers. Th. System was also pregnant with freed. Should a Lottery be to In drawn is three days, the •esettital helpmate was, that eine-third of the tickets shoold be dt ion each day. Rot in the Lottery ef 1519. net of 9000 tickets, 300 only were drawn the first day, though the price had been raised en the second day front 191. • ticket to 401. 14e.; and on the second day only 1250 tickets bad been drawn, leaving 6100 to be drawn on the third day, though on that day the price had been raised to 291. 10a. the ticket. Stab conduct was • direct chest upon the People. The tickets had formerly been drawn by two blee.eoat boys, bet the Governors of Christ's Hospital had interfered, and pot a stop to the prac tice. He bad been lately at Coopers' Hall. and saw i 0 boys In the dress of the scholars of Christ's Hospital, but was straggly Inclined to think it wet a deception spots the Public. The system of the • Lottery also led to gross superstition, front the lists banded shoot of lucky numbers. An inhabitant of Biddeford,in Devonshire, got • share of • prize in the Lottery; end a friend of his passing through the vil lage, found the bells riogisig, as if for s victory ; and this was in consequence of the men making all his neighbours drunk. A similar circemstance had taken piece in Sitellield, and must ruinous speculations in the Lottery had been the consequence le both places. In the Lottery Schemes, that was called a prize where • mars tad only lost hell his motley; and a man was said to gaits • prize when for '2Ol. he received 101. In • Lottery of s given number of tickets, the number of prizes had beets steed at 2985, bet of that nesoisr TRIO were prizes of 101. RP real number of prizes was i only 53 No system of Rambling enfold be more shame ful. 11.11 of the nisch' effects of the system ought to be put down ; every year the Public ells pleedered to the amount of 6 or 700,0 LO!. and the advsotage to the revenue bore no proportion whatever to the injury done to the Public. He trusted the Public would at length take op this sob ject• ft had been said, thy the Public were re t ort:. less of it, because so few Petitions had been present. aol against it. This was • circumstance he could ant @crown for, exrept by supposing, that the influence of Government was earned to prevent such Velitians being presented. The Hon. Gentleman conduct,' by moving • Resolution expressive of the opinion of the Hesse on Lotteries ; namely, that they were an enceetsgeineut to gaming, and destructive of the morels of the People ; and, therefore, that the Houk., would not, is future, sanction Lotteries ender any regulations whatever. The CHANCELLOR of the T:XCIIEQUER thought the House were obliged to the tionourabi. Geutlemen for a very intermitting speech. It had not, however, convinced him ; nor did be believe it would consists this Mose, that, in the present state of the finances of the reentry. we could afford to give op a tat which the Public imposed voluntarily on then selves, and which produced near 300,0001. a year. If, indeed, the system of the Lottery was es the Honourable Gentleman had described it—a sys tem of fraud and gambling, he should egret with him that no revenge could compensate the evil. Bet he could not agree its this OPSeritotl of the llonousahl• Creamily ; and he could tint see any objection to e system by which the mechanic was allowed to risk a Smell posting of his turnings or his savings in a ape cobalt's in tshira he had the chance of great gain.— The Right llonnereble Gentlemen denied that the Lottery was so encouragement to gaming, or that the prosecution for Illegal practices connected with the Lottery were encreased ; on the contrary, they had diminished, and, in the course of lust year, amounted to truly IS in number. Ile defended the system upon latch the Lotted., were (Iran n ; and, In answer to the cijsctions of the Ilou. Gentleman to Prizes being given an %Ville, he said they mete iu no way connected with the connect for the Lonery, bet were a gift. Riven spontaneously by the Cot tract/we to the Public. On ■ view of the subject, and a due consideration of the Ilunctershle Gentleman's speech, he could not agree to relinquish so I.rge a portion of the ell at the peseta moment. Mr. ELLIS ouppotteil the :tesolution. _ _ Mr. BUXTON'tdoserted, the Chancellor of lb. Exchequer Lad put this question' into a plain shape. In adhering to ins tax of 300,0001. he h•d not attempted to deny oral the system of Lotteries was distractive of the mor.is of the People. Ile hid only said, it was not so had as his Ilan. Friend had described it to be. The question, therefore, was, whether ne country was io such a desperate sites; ill!. as to he und►r the necessity r,f bartering the morals of the Peuple for 300,0001. llis lion. Friend had &id, he persoually knew no instance in which speculations in t:le Lottery had invulred individuals in ruin; be only knew them by ',poet. But he (Mr. Buxton) mold state an instance in his own knowledge.— Ile recollected, souse years ego, a country •iltage, in which there was • Ileutfit Club fttablisbed, into which the poor of the 'Wage rczularly paid the* weekly subsetiptiaiis to forma fund to r:tr•et the demands of sickness •nd age. In t:.a neat tillage some individuals formed a Lotter• Club, aril were so singularly fortunate, that they got a pit, of ;;Cull. The ;denial; news soon reached the sillage iu which the Benefit Clcb vas thriving surely thou4h slowly ; but this sadden iodise of fiches which had thes petered into the pockets of their neighbourA, ten. doted them dissatistiod with their Bermes Society, the boa of rebid was broken open, and the capital was invested its lottery-tickets. At this time be lost sight of both dabs for fifteen ): ars; bat • abort time ince his made some enquiries ow tire sub. jest; ellen be Need Wan the Week S;ci•ty had . - bean PMStay enfottenele, they bed hod a greet majority of blinks; when they let s prize they seto dens get more than half their seamy back, which was Fe-invested, • blank was the predate, end Ike whole *as Inst. The Minefit Society was broken up; and many pompon• who bet for this ruinous Joists,- tion would halo had • comfortable little store were now, ill their old age, taking yeller front the parish. Thelion. GOllliefllSO then proceeded to reed several Lottery . 4 hem's. and•couteeded that the whole wes • system of fried and delusion, operating inset ruin ously on the eni.ltilin4 and lower times of the toes inanity. Ile was convinced very few mews robbed their toasters. witiout eta 'pointing on investigation that he had been concefrod in Lotteries. it was the sane with respect to 1 %Amin,: he had Mewl( the intreitigeion of a bankrupt's estate lately, who had not tt.shittioe iu the pound co pay his creditors; this wan, it appeared, had got together from his cre ditors four hundred poivi.ds, every farthing of which had been squandeied in Intir•y ',clots. No as (-veld, in his opinion, make amends for thee. veils; and therefore be should aeppert his Iles. Friend's Resolution. Mr. PARNELL also ispenried th e n o w e it oe . He entered into a review of the systr n t .of Lotteries, which he condemned as a system of rising stoney most dm...tractive of the mor)l6 of the People. The Right Hon. Gentleman (tl• Citincellor of the Ea chequer) spoke in Li:h elk of Lw►riea. Ile was not to the bthit of skin for the tenets of Gower.- men, ; but he should now like to ask she Right Hon. Gentlemen, whether he ever howght a ticket, or vent•red any money in this ad►antageous ventila tion which he so much amiriired. The amocellor of the Eachrtquer had onemerated ssiongst the idlest. tages smiting from Linteries, that it had dome away Litile.Goes. Was it necessary to establish a Great. Go to swallow up these Litmle.Goes? Mr. Alderman WOOL) denied that that. Lottery had the effect of cherkioe Litilim.Goes,on thecontrary it encouraged this ruinous system of gaining. Ile had seen a variety of instances of the truth of what he now stated. One instance had escorted in his own family :—• favourite servant of bis,who received mere wages than any other on his establishment. had on. fortunately fallen antler the indeence of this Writes anion ; the result of which was. that he, after plan. daring his wife and family of all their comforts, and stripped his house of every portable article of limi ter., to supply himself with money for gaining in a tertniosted his carte► in • work-house, where he, at an early age, fell a victim to (Avert, end distrems, dais brought epos himself. Ile could not bet repress his mnise at the sapper' given by the Chan crle.ur t f the Esc!iequer, who.. character for sterility stood deservedly so high, to *Mimic The It'ght Hon. Gentlemen hail lately gives 1,000,0001. to build churete3 104,411411M5, ha was encouraging a system which, in many instances, did sot' leave the poor a garmenttego t.. church lit. Mr. WILUEItI'ORCE also strnngly reprobated the tyclesi of Lottetier, es one wbich encouraged irsuibiiug ■ud crime of every description. H. was of opinion no ee drawn from it could make amends for the evilr of which it was prodectim— There was scarcely any tea to which hi *sold not *Omit in Hee of it ; end, indeed, be theeebt it %wild be entair to ~k the Chancellor of the Each.- quer, ander ezistiog circumstance's, to give op • pro doetise tat without pointing oat another to be adopt ed in its steed. Mr. CANNING coshd not think goy green& bed been mode out a t.ich entitled the House to mill on his Right lion. Friend to Ore op thi, vas ender existing circumstances ; or n Pre there any nu for loading the present Chancellor of the Exchequer with alI the blame of imposing • vas, one of the oldest in the list of tales. Now it was proposed to give up this tat because it was immoral; bet no other was proposed more moral in its runs. IBS lion. Friend must be aware this was not the only immoral tea which it was wanted to get rid of. It hid been proposed to rep's! the Solt Tat, the Leather Tax, the Tex on Spirits in Ireland, and to.night a preposition was to be made to repeal the %1 isidow Tax in Ireland.— Thls repeal , er proposed repeal, of tales by different Gentlemen, who did not condescend to propose any b►tter, if adopted, would have the effect of presenting Government going en in any hands. With respect to the system of Lotteries, he could not consider It as se productive of immorality as the elf of spirits, y►t no one proposed to put an end to the lazing epiritous liquors. It bad been objected against Lot teries, that the shares were too small. Ile rreol. lected, when the tirkeis were divided into Gith shares, they had been done .way ; and if it was con• tended. shit the practice of dividing tickets into 16th. shield be pet an end to, he Witted his Right lion. Friend had no objection to such en eneodatest of the system. Mr. WODF.HOUSE would consent to a modified Property Tat, but be never would consent to a Lot tery Tes ; which not wily d►moralized the People, but even led them to the C 001490011 of suicide. lie could not consider the lex on brothels, which pre. sailed no the Continent, as near an objeetiooeble. Mr. PLUNKE FT said, his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Canning) hod not denied the fact that crime arose not of this tax ; bet be bad said the State want. ed money, and therefore most submit to the crime. Ile denied this. The question was net one of re. venue, bet one of the 'smuttily of Ole Hesse of Com. (APIs!. His Right Hon. Friend bad talked of the age of the at, mod of the crime, and said it had existed eines the Revelation. If it bail existed eines the Ifirendation of the world, be could not consider that as a reason why a Horse of Commons should still, ohsrquioea to the swishes or oecessities of a Minister, ' continue it. Lo.d CASTLERFACU denied that the system lowerios mil" its itself a crime, thotigh crime might arise . at of it. So might crime and "base ease out or any tag; god if Gentlemen would thus study to di's-osier objection' to tales, they might god so many, that the revesios, and with it the signer of the Slate, would also disappear. Ile was as ready as any man costs] be to acknowledge it was the defy of Goirete ment to uphold She morals of the country; bet it wss ale., their ditty to protect the revenue; upon doing which, he would also contend, that the morels of ibe country mainly depended. Mr. F. MUG LASS supported the Resolution now moved, and fully agreed in ell the objections against tisc tat. Unstinting se his side of the Ilene het i bens seineed of not propoelog say thing is lie* .f this tat; Mod had done so four years ado, when they proposed a redaction of the army, and the in troduction of economy into the public espeoditure. This tax had been likened to a Ms epos, geeing. houses, which primalle4l generally , abroad. Ilst the case was different there ; the tax was imposed on the keeper of the go.saing-bosse. Here the Chancellor of the Embequer was himself the keeper of the gaiming.knom. Mr. WILLIAMS supported the Resolution. A MEMBER. whose name we did not know, entered late a reties, of foreign Lotteries. Toe tarot* to the Public. in England, upon Lotteries wit in the portion of one-tbird ; in the Genoese Lott►ry it was only one-fifth, and in the Swiss Lot tery one-tenth only. Upon what ptinelple, be would ask, tomtit English Lotteries, then, be defended ? Mr. RICARDO also supported the Resolution.— considered Lotteries . as most destructive to the morels of the lower classes of the community. Mr. TIERNEY. en the best consideration h e could give to the subject, meld not bet consider a sum of 250,0001. thus porchased, as badly, not to sa) disgracefully, obtained. es far as the character of lb. cnohiry was concerned. Ilewoald be sorry to she any thing from oho Government at this time; bet, In fact, the sem in question was nothing in cnniparisois to our espenditere. If this tat was given up for the sake of the character of the country. let the I.nan for the year be 20,250.0001. instead of 20,000,Q, , 11. and all inconveni►nce mould be at an end. The Right Ilan. Gentleman (the Chancellor of the Etchequer) had, however, drawn a great prise in the ',query to-night —a greater than if he had got the 20,00 1 11.—he had drawn on himself the admiration of the President of the Board of Contrite,. The Right Ifonoorable Chan cellor of the I.:retrieve might be induced to depend on this great wise; bet he would, if he did. find it a Little-Go ; ao.d OOP in which if he 'alb/irked he might live to repent.--(A Letigzh)—Astothertstraordiwn y circumstance alsn attended this discussion. It tees the fine in which his Majesty's Ministers had, tiering the 'neared Session, beets found to agree ; and on what question was It on which this unanimity pre vailed why, a question in which Om moral character of the country sass put in one scale and 25(:,0001. in the other, and the unanimity was in f f the latter. Mr. HUSK ISSON upposoil the Resolution. Ile could not ogree to a diminution of the revenue, cud an hien/maw/of the If this easy way of rainier the sum in question was now adopted, the propteti. lion on the nu•st question would be to add 300.00)I. more to the Loan, end has get rid of sisal disagree able impost, the Window Tat in Ireland. Mr. TIEItNEY captained. Mr. I.YTTE uroN shortly replied ; and the /hew then divided— F.•r the Mottos St I Atiliti4 it M. On the motion of 16. .11IJTCIIINSON, there was ordered to b. laid before the [loose ■ Fletarn of ell Persons employed by the Allen 017ce ; will. their Salaries ; end of ell persons sent net of the Kingdom since IbIG, ender the operation of the Alien ALt. Sir G. HILL pres,nterl a Petition from London derry against the repeal of the Window Tat. Alf. SHAW (of Deblin) sold. that the question for the rep►al of the Window Tea of Ireland was one of such grrat importance, that at this hoar he could not therk of briuging it forward.—[Grit: of " Go on "'] Lord CASTI.F.REAGII said, that mailer, of sore importance had been brought on or a late hoer. Sir J. NEWI'M r hoped his lion. Friend would not bring on a question of such importance. The snolion nos then postponed till to-morrow. Lease was given to bring in ■ Bill to present oho sale of poisonous substances, soles. ender purticulat eiseamstanees. The Holyhead Road Bill was read a third time and passed. The Committee on the Lend Tat Commissioners rill we* postponed till blenday next. St, 11. PARNELL said, he had to give notice that be would move In bring in a Bill to enable the Cs. tholica to meet in their several pariah churches, as Protestant I)t•sentera, and to keep 'chive's The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave notice fur Thar-day, of a motion for leave to bring in • Bill to make the 90001. a-year, pair;oli. tally Riven op by the 41vey•is Camden, as one of the •tellers of the Exchequer, available to the public service. Mr. Clarkson, from the Insolvent D•hton' Covert. pr►sented a (town of all persons who Lire peivimi rd to be discharged since 1815. Or the motion of Mr. Alderman WAtIIiNIAN, the papers were ordered to be r•fer'.d to the Com mittee on the Insolvent Debtors' Act.—Ordered. Adjoereed. A CAtrrtox —The Public have lung b.on eti upon. by the Guide of asap Minn manufactoreil of inferior materials, to cover the detention of bring sold upon cheap terms; but the follooriug simple ex periment will dowel the imposition, sod pen.. that Remain, poop, from its superior quel.ty sod strength in wasbl:ig, is the cheapest. Emus.Exe.—Tekekelf an nonce of soap, rut it smell, and melt it in buff • pint of boiling soft water; put it in s pail, and, with a dot place of world, gently stir op the liquor to raise a lather, then add half pint measures of boiling water, and keep stirring each spssatity as it is added, until the immure 'Tares to raise a strong frothy lather. Lin particular in sof flag down the 'somber of belt pints of water used, before the froth begins to disappear, for then the soap has token at mock water as its strength will hear ; and by thus comparing soups of different mans:lac- Wars, that which will take lb. greatest quantity of water is the most genuine. 'lO TRY TIM QUALITY OF SOAP—Take two emotes of any pimp, rut it mull, and put it into a pint bison; 611 it fall of bniting liver, and stir it till the snap is dissolved ; thew a little distance from the bra for 12 hoses; th►n take it away, and let it cool end settle; tarn it not on a plate, and all tholosporitim of the soap will be found at dm bottom: good snap Amid bass no sediment. It was Lord NORNAWIT.eIdoet son of the Earl of Mu:mates, and not Lord Motimecti tur.ts. who spoke in farrier of the Catholic Claims immediately after Mr. LuLls Form. IS TN' FIRM' r rui:sl)t TwOr PRISES OP 411).1):3) Airs r ws: Pitil.ll.4 o .1- Eici:lT PRl7,l'‘‘ or £l. l ll. X 1,00.). AND I:10, he. At— %ND ONLY 10,1100 11(11(1,1,4. YTS • W. I. mI e i • tee , i oa.a .14 shell appear, perhaps tn-morros. e a..: think the omit serstin.o.nii.4 c .• could jitaly 1.1..n5e us for is hat weber.- dime; we d r•.( s.ros to %snood. u e "mold not rues rust the si.arul.t ~.• Baronet. M ins ..ersoilrl lot I. • it a rood to ire c o n, of rued...lit hot thee the wisest nod he, nee was d See at •an the picot feasible means rif obininine a coed rod. "Ire weak or had Mose, tire friers:l6l,d silt 'hi. Airerener. Omit gratibtstlios shall not be promoted by as. Pfeibing but ihe psvfrrsitd PaTotli . her. siirg the eremite.. litcatte 'hall stake Li assail hils. bat in our W,r fare most be radii •s. Oar readioess to poblidi K. F.'s Letter arose from r•Of R ^^ d cp:nims of the Derbyshire Baronet. midmost the smallest de“re to isti.ugo 5!• CRAti.s.'s cosehtes. The race. Orre their frt . :Mon, kn. burn &earl/ torsi in an ituity. woold heir reputstioa for besesokare towards their sollerise feCon•ritinews, fellos.mess. may be co-menial is existence. If Sir Fatness Kustarrs is mew admired by os, it is only be. came he bashers taiM ohms red and tried s and this. we hope, is no Inv idiot's dist:census. Glad sbosid we hr Is take the hand of either, bat timid/v*6ll to see the,- two worthies shake each tile other's hated. If '.r f nausea iVotssa.cr is desirous d testi% thimegh the Sr4rEs. 114 N, one f its colossus 'boll he . pea to him, soder the hope that sloe breach may be Lumenly Ailed op se int a few brasehri laver,. " MALT and Here to-wierrow, if passible. At any tale, les kupe they will woe be the wane tort few dry• hernia:. We acknowledge the receipt of the Leiter from 041 r valued Sub scriber at ft/ verity. and should be estreinely hair pt inJeed, it, while endeavouring In arrouwanich.te the gravidity of nor Hraden by giving them @wire genre it nut cotenant frost additional espence of printing a,thatntlir, type, that we could in his parti:eler la .ea, cr, tu .ignate hi. Liras( powers us as an read with ins vi.•,oe Nobly the thanes., Ictter (1.,, •n ii is called). er than be de7rived . f the eawntenasee amp ancient nod long coatinued bind iodic Nr.rras.v4sr ni..hr .thure ground, wticispantat istroavewitewee, we acknaisietier„ bits been oteototeetl Itv toheN, we would bee to prescribe ■nJ even to preseof to ►im a pour of Improved speriadda. that the NrAreirmaN nay rot appear diminished in 14. L.'s vi •w ul it. The era lA+, whirl) now casileg fi n us will, buwever, d., mach upon this occasion. p ALL OF grtiCKS Tlll , Itnnk Stnek if,lg y per tent. U.. rlf per Cent. !,re per Cent. It.ta ..P*11 . ..:.r Art. ;:e 4 p.-t I*. :F. 1 . 't I ON I. 01ILLII.A. 1 ‘ per rmi. Spy, 15 1..1.. 1.-.i.dg n tI.. p. Lone Alm. Ibi 13.15 I- ir.,4*.i.rer 1i..:. 9 I/ p. 0nt.....m . _ TR ;4: ;; T. 4 7IFS LO ^ DU .11 : WrONEIDAT, MAT 5, 1819. Again we have to nutlee a dismal long list of bankruptcies in last night', Ge=efte ; bat which we presume the Courier, if it noticed the rill list at ill, would impute to the " increa-o if trade sod com merce," an.l the restless spirit of spereola.:on, in con. sequence of the eztension if ear national cosiness. The barefaced effrontery of this internal in advancing such falsehoods—he haid.heartedness in playing upon the feelings sod credulity of the poblic mind, es eeds any thing that ewer was witnessed in this coun try ! What, not a word of sympathy for industries's families, which have hitherto lived in alluence, being suddenly plunged into the estremest adversity.— No, public calamity add public philanthropy are the neglect and the scoff of this too much coonteneseed Journal, which treats everyeapression of concern for the eneressing general distress es if it were the ef fect of Jacobi:aim. The g.est number of bank sorties in the Gateile alines , every eight of Ds pelt. !kali.° is, hosteler, nothing is comparison with dm catalogue of miseries which @Mitts this once prosper. oss Isle. The numbers of insolvent tradesmen soloist whom statutes of bankruptcy are takes est, would appear trifling compered with those whose cre ditors are ens Ming to proceed against them through a precess e Nett se , llnes up sn much of the property of 1110 4! , -1110r. ft might really seem that this Joatnal Lnldin, nut 'nth false lights to its Iteadm hid sett:4lly doc.ired its sery employers, es they cool.! not ',so,. awl in the offensive stoical manner they 0,-, twit/seat instituting en enquiry into the state .1 the Smoky.. To heir a Gentlema. , in the elite of (711ANCLI.LOR of I:te Excutnuis, urge the necessity ; cnnlii.Lin : : a tuft which deprives the poor man of a bit if silt, bemuse, as be pretends, be would folk his obligorion to the public creditor; and to know that sects prodigious !sons are •ppropristed to nerd sertieet,swela as file : 4 FCRETART of irate pey leg • host of jpies and Is larters, personeffes•lsneet wholly so kn,on sill we loot the honour of knowing Lord Sznvsnutu. Thirty pounds to Ibises's., sad illy to that, to be an irehl.nce 'mast a complaicast of the gticroolneve of the time'. Why, all this is 11.110Sik I to hurt the heart of a man really sleeted with the precepts cf f:hrirtianity. Is society thee come In this? Is it so rnech met of joint that .se needy tvertion of it must be set on another impoverished portion with rnon-y io siva way of bribes? This is I I like the history which N. Lovers, glees of the half fru-I;4led tl.,gs, who drew the sledges is which be ! travelled from Kamhichatka throogh SiberiutoPeters ! /meth, with the dispatches from the circemesaligator it Panut;rl, the only one ever sent from that et- I rioter, , but iil-fated Commander. Mona. L. said, ! that if one of tl e dogs use to week with hunger as to fall down befo.e lie ass kennelled, ell the tethers, whose runnels were taken off, would reels sperm him and d l.im in an instant ! ft was, therefor... en error in raters! philosophers and klaisfiaaa au)ing, that PO Iniinal would 41 its own *petite, for we see dee% in Siberia, and men its our owe clims:e, tlcruur their fellow•createret. 'Ti. tree, r ~•••••_ is i, ?,