The National Register. — London, England, 1819-06-13 00:00:00

1 ~' 1 s 6 Dioptvii.l tiarliaincrt. 1101 7 14 P. OP LORDS. MONDAY, JUNE 1. Carl Cary pr.-seined scrota Petitirks Kern Protestant Dis believe in Kent and Palace. twaying vela under certain provi io•is c'f the Marriage Act , which they cannut moricile to their rellition , tenets. TA:. Bart of ...Lob:start Le presented a It imilar Petition horn Norwich. and one from ierimbtreet, in the City of London. ..11M1 A trer LAND mowed, that a Itasage he sent to the Com irons. ..Npowt;ng a copy of the Ite;ant of the Coro • tee on the lii.olvent Debtor, Act be commuLicated to that Hotte.—Or lirat. Seim! Bills on the table were forwarded in their respective girs, and the House adjourned. TV F. !MA Ir, JI?YE R. A person from the Pot-ofFeepresenterl en arcount of the twin and bullion imported in his lajtety's packets front feta to the proem date. Mr. fluor.nert and others, from the Common,. returned the Churches' Benefices fill agmld to, and M-. Blackburn and others brought up de Irish Feecr Hospital Dill, mid several private Bills, nil of wnich were read a first time. On the motion of Lord esneatvow, that part of the order on the Barnstaple Electiou lull which relates to the heating of counsel was thsehartpal. The once for the attendance of the Judges on Lord Lauder. dale's r0.. , ?.ti0n, wee, as we uoderstood, postpontd from Faiday to Tuetelay. The elornal Ordination Bill was lead a second time, end ordered u► be committed.—Adjouroed. WEDNESDAY. JITNE 9. After bearing el, identx against the Barnstaple Bribery Bill, the HOUbC riljouta,xl. I'IMIUMAY, JUNE tn. MAIROITTS OF CAMPEN'S GliT TO TILE Pet/arc.--The Farl of lava a Pone, rising to move the second reading of the Bill which applies the interest the Marquis of Camden had as Teller of the I?.xchequer, to the public service, felt it his duty to °Wee a few obaervations to the House upon the important sacrifices made by rite Noble Marquis. The Tellerahip of the Exchequer was originally given by the crown, vier. citing its prerohatire, us a reward for eminent services nrulered by the Noble Marquis's /whet, in lois great judicial sttuttion.— This created a vested interest. and it was anhout doubt a free hold interest wen the Noble Marquis gave it up to the public.— The sum Suer i Sail in this way by tile Noble Marquis would not be over-valaed at iOO.OO/. The Earl of Liverpool having done ju.fice to the liberality of the Marquis Camden, paid a timi- Jar tribute to the late Marquis of Buckingham, who devoted not less titan 40.0001. to the public service. The Noble Earl con cluded by moving the be read &second time. The Marquis of LANSDOWN expressed his sense of the pro priety of the act, which he • aid would rai- , e the Noble Marquis high in public estimation.—lt was a noble act, eminently useful, a : tending to relieve the public burden, and also useful as proving a 'disinterested feeling on the part or • public man. He concurred in what had fallen from the Earl of Liverpool, with regard to another Noble Marquis. There could be but one sentiment on the subject throughout the country. The Bill was read a second time. i:oasst CATUULIC QUICSTION.-Earl ORZY raw, on the order of the day, to propose t t e second reading of his Bill to ahrogrite the tan declarations required by the Acts Cl the 23th and 30th of Charles the Second. lie 23tb (the Test Act) is the condition to o:2ce—the 30111, the condition to Seats in the llouse of Parliament. The Noble Earl ad verted to the admissions in that house on former debate., with respect to the strict al conduct of the Itoruan Ca tholics, their loyalty. and devotion to the interests of the country. The only objection to their claims was in hileged Isnot of securities. Their annoy; Idgement of the Pope's supremacy was held to be subversive of the allegiance they ',toed to a Protestant K ; on that ground alone their claims had beeu resisted, nod the Notee Earl addeil, that iu bring ing before the !louse a Bill to abrognte Iwo degrading de et:whams*. he had lAA expected opposition. Ile MI% hoe. ever, told the nteasnre w ould be opposed t he knew not a by It was his duty, man ith.tandioe, to state the gru.nd on aide's tic support xl the Lori Cary then desenhed the feverish state of the politic mind a hen the statutes of the `..nth hod 30th of Chitties 11. acre fans d. 7 hove stations reduced the Roman Catholics to objet slavery, in rouse qu.oicc of some calamity which :he public belisted they in tended to bring upon the country They had sinee disclaim ed all principles adverse to the safety of the St tr, sod ism lag given assurances of übetiii nee, those rrstriet , re tests should to destroyed. The Noble Earl entered into a long train of llseol igient artioners . s in defence of the doctrine of transubstanthition, the invocation of Saints and Alma. con tending that it was not idolatry. as' fated in the de. I lentils:. required by the Schlott. lie coucludtti by moving' the second reading of the WI. Thellishop of No Wrier! in seconding the motion raid, it was well known to be his opinion, that a capacity to hold public °Aloe. and to discharge public trusts. should be extended to all whose principles were not iaconsistent with the social and moral interests of die community. Five millions of n.en ought rot to be proscribed, bemuse some persons thought they understood the tenets of the Romish Church better than the Ronaisn church Kell. The nature of those tenet , could net be accurately under. stood, but from the SULUMeat, of the members of that church,_ Thee hod the affirmations cf living men distinctly disclaiming the evil Principles that bad been imputed to their faith. On the general nopolity of our exclusive laws, one of which it was the object of the Bill to remove, it would not become a clergyman to dilate, after the able masrer in which it had been pointed out on this and on former occasions. With respect to the religions part of the question, he must soy, that he never heard the decla ration against transubstantiation made without a sentiment of 'cif-reproach. In compliance with law it was made and required. in spite of the misgivings which it might ocnuion. The law, it was said hai been long established, but injustice could derive no defence from its antiquity. lie could not approve of making the title is office depend upon principles and tenets which res pected only the abstract of owl's of religion. ‘Vhen precautions kiainst the Catholics were no longer justified by necessity, it was the duty of Parliament to repeal them. The Atchbi,hop of CA N T ERBURY as a Protestant would not quarrel with a Roman Catholic on the ground of his religious principles; he might lament his errors, but he wac at the same time disposed to reverence bin intestacy. But in this dangerous age of experiments, when so many innovations head loin mods—when, in a neighbouring country, morality. social tinier, and good go. vestment. had been overthrown, and even Chtistianity itself annihilated, should this nation. in the pursuit of political expe riment, throw away the blessing of a constitution which had saved us from so many perils? Ile sus aware that individtudi, and sometimes states, did not avail themselves of the *dyer to:tes which belong to experience; but he hoped that their Loolshi!, would not lose sight of die clangers we had passed, mud that they would hesitate before tiny es? osed this country to new and dan gerous experiments. For all these remora, he felt it his duty to oppose the noble Leal. raw Lerd rhancalur then put t!.e quositnn , tbal the Ciil should be read a sac..nd hew. the gall m I.,terpool in every of hin life hut enppocted the continuance of flit test acts; mud Ise stilt Illunght liana ticcessa.y tvr • • THE N A noN AL Inr.G I STE R. the fneserirstres of tier elall soil gentian's libertitih .tie weel,l Stilt)' admit, this it was rklit and plaper to consoler the *dense of Roanet '411JIICII: lest the.' be w 44 . I aty that it wilt the duty oi thvii I or.iships to I:4,fikiati alul a hat might tar the feelings of the ''rot, stable. ( /war.) Ile dad ws alien s platsoition sass broucht W Ohm thaw to relict! sit the m.nl :111Cseilt 1 , 1111 in this coht.try, lit weld not eta. Ceald alien Iluin adopting a ilistailit Illetiel d. 'soh kiwi'', het whirl' cool Sdo no good whatever. lie (tint Ohs hardy Mated ho Wejeci to the suutiou, and he Avoid now an duals with 'Wing ts 'woke. Lard I;ra-sari:le thele was no law In the country to testily the Klee to Imisioe sclicioss pee:Miss .4' any man. If a awn subniitici! inuuclf to that ohedienee the laws had pia en to Wawa! ie.- krt.', dial Was, the uticilit lice with 0.6 Catfiaii Catholics proWesse.t. He %nitwit Unit Lisitisbips to be cousiale ot and honest. They all proles...A that it wit 113prOper to ekeaole C atholies lint relish's, belief, bet though OA %hely was Wine civil dirfcrikes of opioiou %shall (hirable it denser and rein to the irate, if taro one heseditary Pena stioold sit :mimic Pair Isaststilps wall' the tale main by the whines of in. sibastol, eliwild Inc hspaeli to heliese in pun gstury, or if one member shoutd be misled to the Slant, of l'ionowas airowbeted with said' tine belie, ot Irsoselisisioistion. (.Ilutta4). the Lord Chascellur awed at a Rivet It mob, that from the time of Charles it. to the time of William, allO hid SAM tamed the act of Charles It., It had bee* thought orecioary, Sur the P. tote Laiiana (Auer civil and 'elisions liheides, Net Pliplete *tumid Snot be allowed to sit iu ; and the colitercilte Saes, that sonic kit wit Abs. IWUIt sivecciary (y ninth it might he atecrtahas.l whether a mass was e Catholic or a Pra/1.'51.11.t. Now, it eTs uM hone, tll.ll. lln. euillil uuly ' w e ° , by puts, oath ri t daraiory ul re111:11.0111 011111100.. Ile therefoir tailed upon the Iltisc, aa it had any r. , :bird In the cotientutiou to Cloudh and Male. as stitled by the alositois revolution, awl nwinly iliewraell by this %ley oath, not to commit the moonlit's...side craw. essilist pastel ity of twos sss iss Ins to thews their civil and relit sus Liu. twos 1111,11...1 Of eisilsiterre.i. 'e/errs). Led af Harrotrby the mouton Fail Beithiscst ells cutuprllyd to dirlci bolo his Noble friend who bad just net done. Lad Grey Septic(' at ;scat length, and with very peat auhriallon. the !WNW then die faint...la, 49. Pismire, 32 11l NoshLuateuts, la—Proxies, M lot hlaiority egehnt the Rill, as Adjourned at is o'clock. FIIIIII4Y, JVNIZ It. Sir H. PA It and others brought from the Common, the Nleir.i Bridge The Irish Fever Hospital Bill, and Colonial Ordination Bill.. were read a third cline and invited Marquis Camden's 'l'rtkrthip Bill went through a Com- Witter. Actjourotd. HOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY.JITNE 7.__ OPPrelasitrit TAxATtoe.—Sir H. WILSON presented a Petition from an individual, aamcd Bressington ;.we be.icve), late of Goodman,' Fields, antl now of Great Peter -street, com plaioing of the ruinous untlenry of the present state of exce,sive taxation, and preying that tile House would pause before it increased the people's burdens. The lion. Member repeated his declaration, that he would not consent to any additional taxes. till there was tome redress of grievances—till there was more sympathy before the Parliament and the People; and he added. that he would rather lay his head upou Pate blob than agree to the Chancellor of the Etch:tot:es Hesiliitions. or to one shillirg of additional tax. (Hear, hear.) Petition read, and ordered to be printed. Lord CaArtwOuttx brought in the Hill for the more effectually prevention of poaching. Head a flit time, and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday se'nnight. FINANCES—THE NEW TAXES. _ The CUANcELLOR of the Excnsoauest (the House having resolved itself into a Committee,) brought forward his series of Finance Resolutions, read on a thriner day pro forma,concluding with expressing the opinion On.tit was expedient to increase the Taxes to Oft aniount of Three dhotis. The Right Hon. Gen tleman said, that us there was a deficiency in the ir.come of the country. as compared with i:s expenditure, previously to entering into a detail of the means by which such deficiency mold be met, it was obvious, that a preliminnry discussion on the gerersl question could not but be advantageous and convenient to the Hume. That was the view with which he had proposed die Reeclutions now to be decided upon. His Resolutions were founded on the contents of the Finance Reports; the facts asserted and sums stated were dram, teutii ,ucli source. Having di tailed those Resolutions, which are already fully before the public, the Right lion. Gentleman, adverting to the that Resolution, which states the deficiency of 18,000,n0u1. by the repeal of the Property and other taxes• observed, that he should not now coin laud of the decision of the House on that °cession. He hoped it had been presluctive cf good—but at the same time lie felt himself bound to say that the credit of the country could not be considered as placel on a sound footing, as promising safety to the State, except there was a surplus beyond the Expenditure—a real Sinking Fund. Had the Property Tax been continued on the modeled tan 1 proposed by him in tell, the debt of the country *mule not h ave been increased I 14,ts )0,6001. nor would the debts bare been contracted with the hank. The unappropriated War Taxes no longer remained, and it was evi dent that the time had now arrived when the Parliament was required to ktemiine on a more permanent and regedarsystem of meedag the expenditure of the country; and as there was it deficiency, the question was, what amount ought to be raised to meet it. According to the eth and 1 lth Finance Reports of the last Seeirn, and tile fire Report of the present Session, it appeared that for the year ending January. lee'', the Expenditure was 54.2000P0L—dm Income 51.500,01a11. !caring a deficiency of 2,1110,0001. For the nest year the Expenditure was 31.900,ene1. —the Income sezoo,now.--leaving a deficiency of fibo,oool. For the current year the Expenditure was taken at 52,00001001. —the Income was na.boo,oool.—the surplus was 1,000,0001. This snrplus would not enable the enietty to provide for such an extinction of its debt as would enable it to meet further tmergemies ; the surplus of two millions only , it was obvious, would place the country under such restraints as to prevent the Government from attending effectually to any pressing woofs; then was it not adviseable to provide for such an extinctien of the public debt as would enable the• country to be prepared for the future.? Ile assun.ed dist it was. The surplus was only e,noo,onol. but is must be as oe.ontil. to render the Sinking Fund a real Sinking Fund, and effectually to provide for the maintenance of public. credit. Such a surplus would afford the me ors of attending to the prosperity of the country, and that end senile be effected by increasing the burdens of the people to the amount of 3,000,0001 (Hear.) He should mention the amounts, and the hems DOS , by which he should morose to reiee such sum; the mode of increasing the duties, it e. Ix should re erre for de tail in the Committee of Ways sod Mean , . Without going into any examination of the particular items, all he desired of the House to determine on the present occasion was, whether the House would agree to the making of a great croft to sustain public credit. 'flat was the great qui:Mira ; the articles to be taxed. cote paratively speaking, were of small importance. (Hear.) !laving thus disposed at &twit general detail as he deemed essen tial to his main ari,-tatueat end resolution, he would pieced to enunierete the sondes an shish he proposed that these should be imposed titiditional duties. The !kat wa., foreign wool; the in crease of duty on the importation of which. he calculated, would produce 3n0,0001. Flom the consolidation of the Custonis ntyyetol. niore.• The ten:mining articles came unties the head of Excise. The most prominent article was that el Malt. (Hear.) Ile was not about to propose the renewal of the duty taken off after the war, but acoroadcrahle part of it. That duty had been abandoned or, the revrescritatiorib that it would contribute to tl e imennerntrt of aericulture, and that it would tend to reduce der pnes ellen, an article of such essential use to the poor; but he was sorry to sas dun the expo:tat:eons lucid forth in such reore• JUKE IS. silstadona had completely failad. The quantity of Malt on which the ditty had hero paid h,.d considerably diminished. Where it vote, with the additional Mitt. in 1813, 26.200,c00 bushels ; it was th.: to:lowing year only. 17,0e0.000 buslte--to be sure that was a mid ,l.at o art but, recording to the result of three years' expert aim. the diminution in the Malt Ditty had lessened the yuvrtity of Malt. Thus agriculture had not experie:nced As to the price of Beer, after the ditty was taken off, the price was lowered, but only for aver) short time ; it was almost immedi ately rai:ed to its former price. at which it had since continued, remaining as high as when the heaviest Malt !bitty existed. *rims the pnciliall relief to the poorer classes had nut been experienced. The additional duty he now proposed to name was about half the amount of what had been taken off; and he hoped to be able to sheet , , that, notwithstanding such &deltic.: of duty, any tie in the price of beer would not only be uncalled Mr, but unjustifiable. (Hear, hear! and some laughter.) According to a Itewrt of last year (of the Brewers Committeol, an intelligent Gentknian. Mr. Barclay, stated, dna in May, lOt d, he averaged Malt at tits. and Hops at tab. per hundred weight; at present the House could not take Malt at a higher price than &3a. nor flops higher than hl. 12s. per hundred weight. The brewing a quarter of Malt, last year, sus estin mei at 91. Itia. Bd.—this year it could not b e estimated above oh 1 7s. 4d.; the itdditiontl duty would impose an ir.creased expellee of 9s..ki. ; and that would leave Ms. a quaner to the brewer beyond what he enjoyed Lst year; and whew then would be the call for an advance In the pnce of beer to the consumer? 1 his ailditiorad duty he calculated weuld produce 1,400.0101. The articles here named were susceptible of adulteration; but. as they sere under the Excise, fiands were more easy of detection than were adulterations iu articles sub ' jetted only to the Customs. The articles on which he proposed to lay additional duty, were—Tubacce-aeCoree and Cocoa—Tea and l'epper...-(Cheering and much laughter.) By Tobacco, he expected to get an increase of 500,001.; and according to new calculations and mode of collecting the duty, lie believed that fur tonne time Tobacco andel be Pohl much cheaper to the .—(Contimied laughter) Hy an increase of 4 per cent. on Coffee, he calculated on getting 130.0001.—From Pepper, by raising the duty from 96 to a round inu (a laugh), he thonght there w ould be an ithlition of ion.oool. And he expected that these increases would produce little or no variation in the quantities consumed. One article only remained fur him to mention, namely, Spirits distilled in England : and by an additional duty en that he expected to raise 300,00 M. beyond the present produce. The whole amount of these increased dutie3 be estimated would be 3,190,01)01. and therefore, calculating on some t mad deficiencies, he might fairly calculate on an improvement of the ltevenew to the extent of 3,000,000 L The items, on recapitulation, would stand thus:— Consolidation of the Customs . . £500,000 Excise... Malt (Is 2.1. per awl]. additional) 1.400,04.0 British Spirits BOP OPO Tobacco Ron.nto Coti;:e and Cocoa leirmmo Tea 130.001) Pepper . 100,000 The Right Ifon. Gentleman having terminated this detail, said tic could nut but imprtad on the House that the increase of the public burdens was indispensably to uphold the dignity of tin. t'olintry by the maintenance of public credit. They had row to determine on a permnncnt pence cstabli.huient. l'hey I new the amount of the expenditure ; ard lie could not caLulate on anx mrterial reductions. Ho concluded with moving the lle,c luuons already before the !mbar. . . . . Mr. 'f tsar: ks roses In the few observations he had to make to tee House. lie would confine himself to the abstract question of the three millions of new taxes in the filth year of peace. It seemed to him, that after all the vapouring about the Sinhiog Fund, after all that had been said about its inviolubility. and the confidence which its existence inspired in the public creditor, we now hail this melancholy fact—that Ntioisteis were driven to a direct breach of faith with tnat public creditor. All the roan. mnces which he had formerly mode, were now, it seemed, lost bight of, and the public were to forget diem as it' they had never been made. The Sinking Fund, after all, is in fact only two millions, and i'arliament must make it 3,000,000/. in order to make some provision for the future payment of the debt. Now we hail a debt of 809,000.000/. and even at one per cent. (the usual allowance on loans) it would require a Sinking Fund of wasooo,oon/. to go to meet that on he old principle. Su that now, in the fifth y:;ar of peace. we were to go on with debt of aad,000,0014. with a Sinking Fund of 3.000,4 ord. ; and to supply that, and make both ends meet for the prvent, we were to have 3.000,0001. .if new taxes ; and this we were told to look to, as oar permanent peace establishment. (Hear.) The Right Honorable Gentleman's language was this..." Here 1 come again with toy old proud prancing periods ; give me but 3.00a,0001. more. antis depend upon it, all shall be right. happy, and agreeable for the future." Before a single farthing of such a suns was gianted to him. he thought that he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) ought to state what he had lone with the many millions which had previously been voted. He had indeed promised the nation. that it should have indemnity for the past, and security for the future; but it was a strange indemnity, and a still stranger se curity, to infix upon it 3,000,0n01. of additional taxes in the fiftit year of peace. (Hear.) W. 14 it too much, under such circern stances, for him to ask the House to pause before they determined —to deliberate before they resolved r Was it too much for him to demand of them to examine how this sum had been advanced, and that had been withdrawn ? The last proposition of die Right Hon. Gent. was this—. that it is expedient now to increase the income of the country by the imposition of tales to the amount of 3,nn0,0001. per annum." The Bight Hon. Gent. must forgive him if he raised his voice meet loudly against these 3.000,0001 of new tuxes. (Hear, hear.) The lion. Gentleman then desired the House to look et the situation in which the country was placed. He had himself admitted the complete stagnation of our trade ; whether he admitted it or no was very immaterial, since nothing was to be heard. from one end of the country to the other, except the distress in which all classes Of OUT manufacturers were plunged. The petitions which the House had received front the agricultu ral part of the community clearly proved that their fortunes were nut in a much more flourishing state than those of the manufac turer : whilst the complaints which they were now daily and hourly receiving regarding the heaviness of poor.rates, showed that the evil was nut confined to particular districts. but spread far and aide throughout the whole nation ; and yet what was the answer that the Home was making every 24 hours to these ex pressions of misery and distress? Why die acswcr was, "We will imyose upon you 3,000,4001. of additional talcs." (lcer.) Were the people of England stocks or stones, duo they could be expected to endure such treatincnt ? (Ilear.) It might there fore be a fair question fur any one to ask, in what way were our finances to be again put upon a fair footing ? To such a question he would reply, that there were only . three methods—a constant application to the Sinking Fund ; an imposition of new taxes; or. what he thought better thi.n both, a reform and re trenchment in every department of State. (Ilum) He main tained that the I louse had no right to impose a single tax upon the country, until it had shown that a reductioniutd been made in . every establishment which could be teduccd. tEoud cries o f her and that it had no right to goad and imitate the people by new imposts, until it had abown thou that there was no odor resource to which it could apply consistently with either the safety or the credit of the nation. t 11C411%) But be supposed that some of the gentlemen on the opposite tenches would say to him, " I know you talk grandly on economy ; but can you point out any reductions by which a large suni can to saved to the public ?' Ile 'mild reply in there intenugatories, by answering. that he believed that such reductions might be pointed out ; and by ex pressing his firm enniiction, that an administration which made economy their object might save a: least 1,000,U01. to the cowl. 1