The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-04-13 00:00:00

• drawn by the lion. llentleman necessarily followed. ft ito the decision which ii ui been mentioned ; but the mere doubt alone made it necessary that the 'subject sheniml i.e taken up. • 7.1 r. F. CAM PBELL thoucht the greatest in cotivenience might lie expected from the late deci sion, and hoped the Bill would be made to apply to snch cues. Leave was given to bring in the Bill. OFFICERS OF THE ORDNANCE. Air. 111.'31E regretted that a motion so important as that which he was about to make had not fallen into abler bands. He had called the attention of time House to a connection between certain individuals at Queenhorongh and time Orminance. The abuses he was now led to conclude were greater than be bad a nticipated. Ile bad found that all parts of the Ordnance Were pervaded with freemen from Queen torongh, and it appeared not only that e s e l e ss places had been created to remunerate them, lint that persons who had been in the service many years had been re moved from their situati n s to make way for them. This was done to secure their votes at an election. He thin referred to a ercat variety of Acts of Parliament, to chew that it hail been ,i.e aractics of the Lmosislature to deprive those of the right of voting at elections who held places during pleasure under the servants of the Crown, to grtnesl against an improper influence being exercised, in oppm:sition to the wishes of the country. ll' he Owned that :a number of individuals connected with time Ordnance returned Mensbers for one or more places, he !hoot:lit be should make out as rood a case for takitm Loam them the right of voting at elections as had been made omit against the officers of F.eeise and molter departments, who had t'eell it:win:led from voting ;,1 elections f o r ma ny years. lie wished the House to rimoitmioher that he called on them to do nothing new. In proof of this he parti. reads , called the attention of the House to the 22d of Heorge 111. cap. 41. '1 hat 11111 passed by the Rockingham Administr ition had been carried by a ••• I nmpl ant majority, and more than a hundred Nlem hers of that House bail a rm imtnpaniemi it to the Lords, mi. a proof of the importance they attached to it. That Art went to excloi le any Commissioner, Col lector, Supervisor, tianger, or any person whatever in collecting or managing the duties of the Ex. ei.te to ewe for a •r Parliament. The same regnlation was made with respect to the Cos temns, and it was evidently the niiimmet o f the 1e g i..12. tr-e to ta;;e the right of voting front am-officers hold i••;; places during plea- ure nwier ;he servants of the Crown. He u ished the Howe to tin nothing new, but erely to extend the principle acted upon with re spect to the Excise and Colton's to one other Pepart• Vile. 'I hat the o bjeot of flit- Legisitti;re was what he Lad described it to be. wamm clear from the exception r:ade In tarour of the Lamol TA% commissioners, who y e r e 'sced no m oney for time mantic.- they performed. The MI, which he had particularly mentioned, had yassed by a great majority, the numbers be:ws f.ir the mea sure eighty-seven, against it twelve. It was only op posed by twelve Metnher. ou the third readier. Saar I.e'ng the nnummer in which that Rill was dealt with, i.e could see no reason why the House shouhtl not :1110W I'm to bring hm his Bill, and not only allow him to bring' it In, but allow it to ',ass into a law. The pro :1:410ns of the act referred to were found so satisfac tory. that after the lapse of tunny year*, by the 42.1 of late King, cap. 25, its provisions were extended to Ireland. lle then referred to a variety. of acts passed In the reigns of William and 31ary, Ann, Heorge the First, and Hewitt. ti. Third, which provided against the interference of persons holding places during plea sure under the servants of time Crown. Ile now came to direct their ; attention to time state of Queenhorough a•:ti its voters. In Ifit)'_' there was a contested elec tion, when the numbers were ;5 to 74. The Bight Plranrable lientlenian the Master of the Mint), 'eight smile, as ;moth as to say that on that occasion; tie Treasury was beaten ; lint this did not affect his a:gutoent, for he bad to state, that not one seventh part oi thm se from Queenhurongh who were now con ced with the ordnanee, were connected with it then.: At another election, when Mr. Hunt and Mr. Villiers! were opposed by a Mr. Chichester, the two former polled Itimo yo:es—the last me •tioned gentleman ON milking a heal of 2 1 10. lie, however, believed if all the voters were b r on, t ht together there would! be about 250. Brest importance was there attach ed to a vote, and as the sties of freemen were entitled to one. the wises of free:tiett were frequently st rt f;oto distant parts to lie in at Queenburongh, that young freemen might be bion. Ile procev ard t o state that 147 freemen :ecrived among them, far of- 1 tires which they hell, the annual sum of I 1.760.. ex• l o .ic; of 32 houses, grounds, &t. while eleven frtemen's sons, who were in other po r ts, or mho were nut of age, received among them '2,11291.; and thirty. two freemen held situations in time preventive service through the same influence ; aml thus one hundred and ninety voters were provided out of two hundred and twenty odd. Ile now came to describe the Corp, - ration. There were a Mayor, four Jurats, and two bai:His. He (Mr. tireystork, of the Tower) was barge master to the Ordnance, with an annual salary of 60/. This was nut a large sum, but Mr. tireystock had en joyed it for sev en years, and it was a Frfe.l sinecure. tie was at present Mayor of thteenbereneh, and he was salesman to the Oyster Comp:sae. Ile was paid for his duty at the Ordnance. thougli ci. , ht mouths he was at Billingsgate, and the other four collecting oysters in France. The next person was Mr. lireet, one of the Jurats. He had profited more by the Ord nance than any other person. They haul hired all the vessels wanted for the Ordnance of him ; and his bro ther, Alexaoder Oren, had been made barge-master at Liverpool, with a salary of 100/. lie then noticed the emoluments enjoyed by the other Jurats. :awes Bowdru was a Water Bailiff ; he enjoyed a salary of hilt/., 201. house-rent, and commanded a powder boat, said to be of 30 tons, but he believed this to be incor rect, and was told that it was but from 17 to 20. On this subject there was some concealment. The Clerk of the Ordnance had said that if lie knew that he (Mr. liume) had derived his informaf from any one on board the vessel be would take care that he should be dismissod.--(Hear, hear.) --When such an objection was made by a public servant, to bringing the affairs with which lie was connected before the House, it proved that there was something to be ashamed of.— (Hear, hear.) —This was a matter that called for se rious inquiry, and they could nut all be as pleased about it ass the Master of the Mint appeared,to be, from his cheering. TH. Mr W. POLE spoke to order. lie beg fed to aek if it was orderly for o;ie :lon. Member to anode to another as he had been ;Mooted to. 'I he SPEAKEII said as be was referred to, he ask the Right Hoots. tientleman of what lie cmnplaiu d• Mr. W. POLE stated; that he load beets noticed several times by the lion. Member in the course of Isis speech, anti Iwo' 'sow been mooed as cheering. Ile begged to ask if this was correct. The SPEAKER said, he was not aware that the Right lion. tientleman had cheered. If he bad dote so, and hi 4 rheerisig hall interrupted the 1:011. Her- Homan in his speech. he might allude to it. If the itiooht lion. tientletnatt hall been described to hate' cheered, hr not having done so, this was ditoorderly.. Mr. IV. POLE remarked, that what the Speaker had said was very correct anti dignified. as ever, thing that fell f.om him was, but lie appealed to the House if lie hail done any thing that onglet to ' call forth the comments which had been insole. Mr. iII:ME was sorry to s.y any thing unpleasant, but the Right Hots. 4 lentleman had seemed in such ecstaev that hr could not co on---he Was obliged to stop hint, bit be hail no %visit to hurt his feelings. He then resumed his speech—James Bowden re• ceiveol the estoolotments, txr. which he load described, and his son was led. in the Surveyor General** ()dice, at the Tower, having been nPPoildra about months ago, while toiler Clerks who had been many years its the service were noticed other persons olio were provided for in various ways, and described nine or ten persons of one family, of the name of Pelletts, to have been fastened on tli.• country. Air. Pelletts and others, had houses to live in at Queenborotiglo, which they were in the habit of letting, while they themselves resided at Sheerness. In o onsomottice of some occurrences which had been eionoplaineol of, a C o mmission was sent down to Qoteenborough. The Hon. lientlemati hail 'sill, lie hail an objection to lay the Report of that Comusission before the House, and Ise (Mr. Hume) must, therefore. move for it. Some of Ille paries load hero sitspettoled, hut he understood they bail beets restored. In a former case, where not a tenth part of what load been proved at Queenloorough could be estalolisheol, the parties complained of were dismissed the service. The Storekeeper's Offue at Dover was !Med op by a freeman of Quertsborough, with an income altogether atotontoing to 5001. Ile &stool ovlsy that office could toot have been supplied by of the twelve reduced half-pay Storekeepers? Ihe e Storekeeper's Office at Sheerioess he must not pass over, fur that was the grosooest business of the whole. Mr. —, a freeman of gtocetiborosigh, was appointed to that office with a salon of 5011!. lie was soon placed on the Superannuated ids! ; and Thomas ElLin, Esq., a gentleman pos s essing property to the value of 21100/. a year, was appointed as his 111li'll'SSIW, and be was at the age of 71. This was nut a solitary case of such a practice : and if he could have access to the proceed ings of the Board, he ennui hull plenty of instances of similar etottolovt. lie bad now come to the hottoto of the list of the freemen of Queenboronalt, who altoge ther enjoyed I 17 71;1 1 . a..llllally of the potolic money. --The Honourable Member then emosierated the other Storekeepers at the difTerent depots, and the expenses Offieers io the Preventive Service, all of %Olio+, Ailed to the sums he before men 'honed, amounted to twenty-live thousand pounds. —But the snails point was the manlier in whirls the Ordnance exercised the iodlotence which they possessed. in the first place, he haol a list of sixteen individuals, who had beets obliged to tie way, and their places had been supplied by freemen of Queenboroosgh. 'floe lion. 31ensher went through the particulars of the cases of some itoolisiolual. who hail beets superseded in their offices, and deprived of their incomes. lie then remarked upon the oobjects of lois Bill, and said, that it dill not go too take away from any man that which be possessed, lint to give him the fisuire of leaving the offices he held, or of being placed on the same footing as the officers of the Excise and Post Offie.— Having 'hewn the iniluence which existrol over Ibis class of individuals, and the manner in which it was exercised, he called moots the Homo. to support this Bill. Hit did not, he should lie most ready to sap 1 port one for enabling the Lords of the Treasury to re torn two Members themselves for the Borough of Queenborough. By so doing they would do away the necessity of 25,0011 i. a-year bring spent for that pur pose. The lion. Member couchoirol by notsvito, for •• leave to bring in a Bill for disqualifying all civil servants of the °Moaner department, and others, from voting at any Election for a letstber of Parlia- latent." Mr. BERNAL said, be rose to second the motion, not on the ground of economy alone, but on the gene ral principle of protecting the purity and freedom of Election. Adverting to the means of influence which were n. 441 by Government at election+, he *deserved, that of the freemen of Rochester, no less than 25 be longed to the Quarantine Establishment. Such nes the constitutional jeaheee%y which existed oe this sub ject, thrt by the 11th of tieorge 111. even all the Ma gistrates of police and persons connected with pollee c stablislensent%, were disabled from voting for Slem hers of Parliament. lie by no means co ntended that l;overnment might not to posses% a proper influence. All that be was solicitous about was. that the current of that influence should not overflow. He cordially supported the motion of hie Honourable Friend, and lie hoped that his Honourable Friend would pnrsee his object through all the civil departments of the State. Mr. WARD stated his determinalion to oppose this motion. Ile could give an answer to all the lion. Gentleman's cases. But, in the first place, he would put it to the candour of the Hon. Gentleman, whether he would not have acted more consistently with the public interests if be had put off this question as his Right lion. Friend had requested, in the absence of the Noble Lord, who was the representative of the Goverment in this House. The lion. Gentleman bad stated a great deal of the influence of the Crown, and had also cited several Statutes. Ant what did those, Statutes prove? That certain persons were excluded from seats in this House, and from the exercise of the elective franchise. But be denied that it was the. Constitution of this country to deprive a man of his right to vote merely because he was connected with the Government. If that principle was true, the lion. Gentleman could not stop here, but be must go on, as the Hon. Seconder had suggested. threagh the whole of the" pnblie 'Offices, and disfonehise them all (Hear, hear.)—This, he was sure was a subject of to. 'AN. much importance to he treated le this desultory i.s. tor. It was a species of parliamentary Reform. which he was sure the House would nut agesarstar refitliont much more mature consideration. Ile ask_ ed. was it possible that the lion. Member would he the person to propose to deprive so many Englishmen s f their privileges—r who opposed the Newington Select Vestry Rill upon the express ground that it took away the franchises of so large a body of limit, lint the ' measure of the Hon. Gentleman was founded' altoge ther upon the false supposition that influence and in terference were the same. With respect to the Navy. , the instances were numberless in whi,a persons em 'ployed in it voted for determined Nlembe , s of the Opposition. lie himself was informed but of one per son in ids office who had any concern in elections, and upon enquiry be fonssil that this person way a resolute radical reformer. Rut finding he was a good clerk, he (Mr. IV.) never cared about his principles. It was tine there might eziet an influence in a particular quarterover particular body of electors ; but influence was of that nature that it grew up uncontrolably, and it was not a necessary consequence that because it existed, it should also be exercises'. Would the gentleman bring in a Bill to disfranchise the tenants of the Duke of Bra ford, because his ansialle character as a landlord se cured to him unbounded influence amongst those te mods ; and yet the affirmative of this was the principle upon which the lion. Gentleman founded his motion. The lion. Gentleman then referred to the Ril! whick was introduced by M r.CI ewe todisfranelsise the officers employed lin the ordnance, and stated several facts with respect to it. for the purpose of showing the rea sons why it bad been subsequently abandoned. He then entered into the history of the elections of QM re. borough, and stated, that at several periods the popu lar candidates were able to defeat the Ministerial ones—such was the influence of t .oovernment therein., The lion. Member, he said, would give the ordnaneel officers it ave to sit in that House, lout tLit to vote at elections. This was an extraordinary principle of I, , ,at , , stylision, to give men who were too corrupt to vote oat of that Hesse the liberty of voting within it. Ile I "slefiesl the lion. Gentleman to show any instance of a man having heel discharged on account of his vats. at elections. Instances of a contrary nature might be adduced. Capt. Dickenson, who was time friend of Pox, and voted and canvassed f o r that ce l e brated man, had an office in the ordnance department of 3 or -ILO/. a I year. lie would take it upon him to say, that the majo i , rity of the Electors of Queenborough were not ens ' played its the ordnance. There were in all 292 elec• iors—l le of these were permanently employed in the se r a . 4141 e c : I LI i 2 n, f h e et 9t r e i n l i t : ll , : cio r 6 t ne ia l ed3 s ' e l n i r i : f taalp:4 he 804eti . i i r uv ile i no pa e r. i n t en iai r il T s rl ii .alid : tu l l ; gf o ' s r it : l ot e r l p r oe ttie r r uas i lc P.t l .roe ls il t i : :, ; (yt. cit . i i r r e3tr d ni t ai A nt ; : : l e c tinrii i e n e er sc p ci ‘ t l iet f: l d ir w. e i taco. ei s eti ti n d l o ol l t u n in ' i r eit ln s o t oe l sr i lt t in a e tje aa l ah i b u is nk e ttep t l g es c n i e l netn tr: ic ra gi fe l u l y s ell io isP i a s u et i t i e nis r o n i r : l s r te oYl o t e ' l l e t: ofdt al' s in s e l lo : el tste.a ir t i h t nn l i ei o n rf ee : . er e charge of the lion. 31essiber. that he (Mr. Ward) gave minim that he wonlil discharge any person in the Ords !wire who gave him (Nis. Hume) information. This charge arose out of the following circumstances the lion. Member met him some time ago, and told him that he hail made a wrong return of one of the powder ships—the Harmony, which was returned at 56 tons, whereas It was testily hut 36. It appeared that the Hon. Member had, by the assistance of one of the officers, gone himself to measure the ship, aceord log to his own account, and that it measured but 36 tons. Now the ship was afterwards regularly mea sured, awl it appeared to he 56 tons, and a fraction more. Ile then noticed the accusation that sonic of the officers hail let their flower' at Sheerness, and straits' the tenth of the statement. With respect to the charge of peculation against some of the officers, a commission of inquiry bad been issued to ascertain the truth ut those charges, amil, upon examination, it was found that there was not a single charge founded in truth. The lion. Gentleman's (Mr. Hume's) motion rested on such eases as he (Mr. Ward) hoped he bail must sa tisfactorily answered. Mr. HUME was proceediae to address the Howse in explanation, u lien he was called to order lay the Speaker. Colonel DAVIES supported the motion, which he contended was fonsuled on the best and moot ancient principles of the Constitntion. Mr. P. MOIRE followed on the same side. Mr. TIERNEY saiJ, that front the contradictory statements that had been made, it was (litre-silt to ascertain the facts, without the appointment of a'' Committee of that House. One fact, however, he took as established, namely, that in point of Coo stinational law there was molting novel in the pro position of his llonostralsle Friend. As the law s tood, it prevented tississerous classes from voting at elections. In 17e2 a law was passed to prevent pnblic officers in the Excise and Customs from voting at elections. That law was found so salutary, the 'advantages of it were so universally felt, that in twenty years mites-wards, on the Union with Ireland. the provisions of the Statnte were extended to that country. lie certainly felt unwilling to disfranchise any part of hi.: fellow subjects, but he sat there not to consider the interests of a part, but the general ad vantage of the whole people ; and nothing, in his mind, was so likely to promote that advantage as to preserve the purity of the Representation. The up shot of what had passed daring the debate amounted to this, that the Government had a decides' influence in the election of Members for Qneenhorough. Out of tee electors, 129 were attached to the Onlnance Departusent. It was therefore impossible that the majority of the voters shonld not be in the interest of Government. It was for the lionise to consider whether, in point of fact, the borough of Queen's°. rough did nut belong to the Ashninistration of the day: The Hon. Oentleasan (Mr. Ward) made a dis tinction between influence and interference ; he (Hr. Tierney) had no doubt that the Honourable Oentlentan would sot exert his influence in an illiberal manner ; yet, he might, perhaps, express some surprise if a ties demon in his department asked permission to vote at Queenborosagis fur a popular candidate, against the 1 Hoesruntent--129 persons, holding good places— soma grateful for past favours—come expecting future 1 rewards, were likely, at every election, to support the Hocirrnment candidate; it was sot, then, too touch to ipaiumps afar that the Norough belonged to the Ordnance de- N. The law for disfranchising officers la the Excise and Custems teas made. becau-e it %.a betide , ' that small Borough% ( u e „1,,,1, ther e -s a PPre• many) would b 'eau& entirely ienler the e "ere u t t° : f the Minister of ;be day, if revenue tofii rrrs d n . tr" ;"; lowed to vote ; indeed he w:is convinced, that i t ai; were not for that s 'hoary law, the revenue n ts„,„ if ill some places, would hecoome IL, prevailing --, If the tiovernmen , , for a luber of rears, ; 1 7 7 ; m a steady but pertileiatis print.iple, they wo u ld (h ai l -, that law lwen passed) have ainpii:•ed an intitienre i n t'''' tions which he was sure tio gentleman in th a t H e Z .ronld wish. He was nut for disfram•hising an y „., drown tutnecessarily—he soul,' wish to ~,„t ie' "C Bill to the Borough of latieenlitwottelt. Ile wun n hi L e ' e t wish to exclude officer' of the Ordnance throtiolL; the kingdom from rooting, because they w ere i n r. t - places mixed tip with the ITS: of his 31.oja r ty., „,'" k t :poets, Roil nothing formidable wag to hr ant .,, heni ; 4 from them, sire in the Borough of ll aetra b er „ n ..,, There might perhaps be °ay or No oth er 1 1. r ' where the influence of those 'Ayers n d r i a I ::: ,'• dangerous; if so he would have the prioicifie ; I I :: Bill extiquied too ends places. lie had u o „1„. i , e4 . ' to extend the p•ovisions of the Art of i7,0, j ,,h::1 ' iliscranehised In-venue Officer', to o ffic er, i n the 11 . ,, : moire Department, when. the same , 'anger was to 1. appro lit•nded front the exercise of their fr anr hi nr. : that which was cu nicely u naided against i n the ." st;tii .and i vii e l i o i tl i f g u :t ffi s o t :n o e i n r i s s i o i n f i p t : a e with' ra s il i i i:i:s t t a a p i r b a y a rt ( rt i c.:tit'ol:ir.ritn:ltast:ilunliitenia particular course of a few days gentlemen would have an op ou ' r . tunity of delivering their sentiments at length titan that important measure. lie would vote for hrinn l ito in the Bill, with this understantling, th at it was in. tended as a remedy to be applies! to a ease—that it was to have reference merely to the Ro• rough of Queenhorough. Mr. B %Tut! INT contended that the principle of the tw e ll w i l l ri l, were fito Q i t u e e n e t n e b rt , :tin rou e c il b t liney nor t o t t house, h rgiritn r,d ~.o n o le e Cut i !. partment ; ibibould'ext •nd agr a deal fmt as ;it u na ta t be applied in the next instance to the Nave and t o others. It was iiiipsossilile to separate the pr esect question front the trite, general sotto et of P ar k. mentary Reform. The Bight ilon, Rent. contindel by saving, that be could not approve of a ninon which went to disfranchise, without adequate cause, a number of his Majesty's enkeets. Mr. Ht ME replied at considerable length, He oloerved, that out of the seven houses in the Onion"' Department at Sheerness, which were represented to be 53 almolntely for the good of the service, five wets let by the 'kers to whom it belonged—one was m• mph.'" by the officer, and another was left nnorrepied, beeanse an exorbitant rent had been denianoled for i; from the Admiral of the Port, who had been treadle for it. To %hew the extent of the infineare of the Ordnance Department, he stated, its it Ilte minder of freemen who had voted at the last el. rt;liii for Slates• borongh, was 220 ; of whom 1611 h.ool yolk for Or Ordnance candidate, and 60 against him. 1;." greatest number that could at any time hr Armtek to ,cote, was' supposed to be 250. Of throe three *re I 47 . -tit the employment of the Ordnanr ~ eho rectit , sl I 1,766/. of the. public money. The recruits besiohn. from the Preventive Service and ether dewclaw, received as flinch as increase d that stun to 2:,P01i., and if the house' and coals and aliewaiw:•s were added, this single borough bad not less than 25,1801. es- Peutlet! upon it. Now lie had stated the suipstance of three several series of Acts of Parliament, of all of which the object was to prevent influence in the elect Lion of Members of Parliament ; now lie would Fit it to the candour of the lion. lient. whether these Ili freemen, forming the majority of the boroneh, an depending f •t• salaries and promotion on the %Math , Ordnance, were not likely to be completely cadet its induenre.—('tear). 'f he Horse divided—l o ur the motion, 60—Agaisd i it, lIS-3lajurity, SS. ScOTCII MALT. The CHANCE' 1.011 of the EXCIIrAr ER morel. that the Petitions fo ono Sc o tland, etw.ylainine o f the Malt Duty, and uf illicit distillation, he referred to a Select Committee. Mr. BENNET observed, this was the first paymest made to Scotland for the vote ou the Malt Tax Re peal BBL—Meer). Sir ti. CLERK said these petitions stood on yin '• different groands from the repeal of the Malt 'fat is England. In ISI9 a duty of rid. per heshel had km inipneed in Sc.otland beyond what nos imposed is England ; a dilference which formerly existed to that extent haying been (lone away. Sir R. F EMIL:SS( 1N said, though he knew it wood be an unpopular thing, lie should oppose the mei" itemise he considered it unjust ;so. li of the hull grown its England bring wars- than ,1111''h of that grown in Scotland,) and becalm he coesinrrel its boon to the Soots argricu ltural Members, il.° far w 4 with the Minister. In answer to a tplestion of Mr. ft. Of IR DO. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER MM. that his mind was not made up as to the metro re 0° be adopted. lie only wished to give the Scots Omit' men an opportunity of stating their ease. a nSiti•aroluterie°:(l.liKeli"rui!o°usledd li t h e e ni n orti t s i t7 la'shea Sc%lePtst.:trielch grosini-re.rsmii.alt(l.Knott rare Nzi K at dattibetar this wits e s x3embLitnioet.o the Scots Menolwre, for he and other Scoots Members,"); voted for the second reading of the Mal Sir t 'fir.< PeHer Bill. He hoped the tlallant Ureteral (i o n son) would withdraw hi s opposition, s• the mot . 1 1 ' ., a Committee was of much more imp em riance , el.'''. to consider the state of il licit distillation. K. coni‘fit%s.e4l. P. t a i • l a t s A b N ro l n . g m ; l a i r:ru le : l l . d t h i e % i t i ot " rt n n ' y t !' h u 7 l -ihwis lil appearances. `ll • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIiEQ I4 : II ~". he had given his promise to accede to a Committee early as last Session. Sir M. W. RIDLEY said lie would vote tor the . 0 * lion, if the Chancellor of the Eseliespirr would ge consider the case of the g rowers of inferior 14.1 i oet: proof of his sincerity, by allowing the Cumnottier is i_. ire 7 England also. — Ole o,, they suffered as murk under the T a x as in any po hear.) -1n Nor:here of Scotland. Sir R. FICROCSISON explained. n 6116E 16 After a few observations from Mr. ... • the Hone divided as follow s :—Ayes, 53; N'A's —Majority. 3d. On oar re-admission kite the Calerys we 11 ° 114 )11 IL. -. - i~ ~~ 1 1 • 1 41 ;