The Statesman. — London, England, 1815-02-16 00:00:00

,~ THE STATESMAN. 1NEMM...... in /NW.. ••• . construction of the law, but which was a highly ju. I lion reerresk . from the gates of . Moscow to Or , gth ?Toe •._.. g . 49 li,. fed' • Ilitilitre in's ir ents were s e in .goletryr ilk; dicious measure. hi 1805 the Militia were kept of Pai;cngilityleit foi:!6llollreiii:tirdec ( desh - tOili he atcithe7 insurrection dhappMited, • T u t embodied, when the situation of affairs that had le- ! durinetvar, th : . danger of ifeasten hait'eensed: ' Bit to 'rise' a ..' •:. On • the 16th Govetosivebt were quired their being called out no longer existed ; to ! whiaaff dinget'orjnieithir,,;scriiil 'tun!' pros&CtivF, krmed that' the insurrection had ceased. On ' the - lst come still nearer, when the French army was totally i had decidedly ceased by the conclusion of peace , Decembe r Government issued a Proclamation, in ruined on the Beresina, what danger of invasion any j was ie t to be endured that they should be told that which they did not state the existence of insurreetiou, longer existed ?--1101 then did the reasoning of the i theMiffetTo"tiesrtO" ti's' kept ealial&I" Midi:Wine girth - ire Oleo!' tainit . said sedition' hid le Noble Earl apply 2—The' cause for calling out the !military service ?• The trerntleitt of', tht:_flebie ; shoWkittett id tall' of riot andinsurrection. Be- Alilitia'had in . many of these instances altogether 1 'Viscount had no limit. Aicordiniti ttel • thelitli : fore they called out a man, Government welt knew . teased, but yet Parliament' had by its votes sane. ! inkiii . he kefit'erilialiialairririfeTy dtitinglieice - st"; that - en insiiiiictien arieted. It would be saiel, tinned their being embodied, thus showing ,their 1 the diacretion of the Clown. What then Were thee COVltiiii; thill'thite r wall then ate apOriihension of in cense of its necessity, under the circumstance of eack. 4 milie4 upon tei'del' to - deadllelireeri a . Giiiii - rinuetet . eiiiim; link be *Mild, travirse that fact . Was there, case. Thus in the last war, subseqUentli,te the , actOrkititg to la*, pd'a Ohteriillietit ,acerirai - tai; Would silt; anyda'aget rieltriiiiiih', till- after the Peace of Paris, the House of Commons ,. liad i voted ; the discretion of the • Cteirsi ,Ttli'dateli'cifitrit . fhb' King of France was eleitliteil ;, and, , even till 0/ the pay and clothing of the Militia till' Chinitaiiii Nplile VlicOnnt did nOt•aPpl On'thai• at 11 the some niotigUi e lei that event ? The disturb crtiecialize last, and the vote bad been introduced into the Ap-, , MIMIC were called oat lit c . of • the eked . awes at • were i mere pretence;, and propriation Act, thus proving the construction which : denier o f ilitieriAtiois), Vellite hey referree all of'. th ere wee' giieplitshositin of invasion tin after the Parliament gave to the Militia Laws, as to the Mi- ; them tii'a•state of war ; ` but Hire it Wit deliberately': war with Trainee. And, indeed , Frarice'sreirribt Ip litia remaining embodied when circumstances re- i contended thét the 'Militirniigte'ber k'iiit emtiodießi a situation either to invade-us, or threaten us with' gaited it, although the causes of their being oriii. i cliiii4g * peace at the'disieeilbh • of tile' Crittett;-iisitiisliin, till Many months' ' after the wit wee- cote natty celled out had altogether ceased. It was . only i AgalOi • Mllis Motistrohi doeicihe be and SOleintilf 1 isiesced, yet the then Ministry didright, in his bpi indeed in consequence of the Militia remaining em- ; pretested, en - nettle:o mile wallithatio• sitel:inteis- ; Ilea, to call' oat the Militia, and keep' that formil bodied at that period, and being thus applicable to itietiikl*evei . iit i tlte Coeteiltplalldii k Or Pitilanientrembodied. Having once stated the cunditid* by the domestic military service, that the army at Boor- : He diddel Mee! :to dolibt that Ministers would aid t which that force might be called out, as long as Air deans could be allowed to embark to support the : the pOs t ell they' tied theta alisemed with moderatieti, ;,ecigencies of the State might render therlessessicitudf cause of the country in another hemisphere. Against ! and liettiAted they would dOso; but he tatist never.; thit firmof stren - gth' necessary to' them, so long the this measure no one had attempted to raise his voiCe, i thdess.cxll in question thereiercise or such a power, I Ministers of the Crown were justified in continuing and he was confident that any one who had done so the existence Of which he ' altogether denied, and K. Were Minister s , till the American war was would have been overwhelmed with public indignation. l insist, therefore, : suptiort the Motion of his Noble' closed by ratificition, justified in disembodying the ' 'Thus, therefore, Parliament had recognized, in rep i Friend, who hid oiiy been prevented froM bringing ; Militia ? He should be sorry if any thing uttered in posted instances, the expediency of keeping the Mr. !forlia'rd his niotron sooner by the' adpviiinnient of , the beat of debate, by sane of their Lordships; were litia embodied, after all the causes for calling them 1 1 Parliament , which Ministers theristilirei halt pro; I attended with the effect of impressing on the minds out had wholly ceased ; and it evidently had never ; posed. , - Of men, with swords in their binds, that there was• been the intention of the Legislature to prescribe a I The . 411tD CIONCELEOIisdid riot with atty . no longer any obligation on them to continue their period when the disembodying should take place.— ; shy stres s alien : the Oplrileiiii 4.,titi Attbeiter:, ; lattices: and thit all punishment atempted to be In the Local Militia Acts, it was expressly stated at ; Siiii4iter':Geneeal,biii Whiitiliailitfeaf Parlialelelt 2 l hiblcted on them was an aggresSion which they er t irif . what period that force, when embodied, should be; after repeated revistons or the Midi .Adt.;•ll4l7st liberty to resist. disembodied ; but although the Regular Militia esta. lansitiesl*,defining the'etreetnittineeitinaiquthidetliel Lord GitENTILLE rose' in explanation . Its the , Oakmont had been repeatedly before Parliament, : Militili should be callirfOtit, hill Wattled all' Mini. ._firse ;Agee, it never was his intention to create in no provision whatever had been made as to the pe- ! tipti of any periont Which' they shOuld be diailea4.l sililairrill ot 4 unjustifiable discontent in any part of rod of its being disembodied when once called out. , bodied, he wattsitiely eittitleir(lookiiii at wail eisict:lisie Majesty's subjects, end least of all, of part of lie was, therefore, justified in concluding, that Par-led and what was not snicked) . jadiclily to argid it ski .the envied force of the country. He would liameut had not thought it fit to legislate epee s thiii was not the intention oh Parllanient to rfescribnaril poi it td his Noble and Learned Friend, with his point, leaving it to the discretion of the Government , sPecilkc iihrtridee4hiet, the Willa shOuld he disein: feeling ; his love of law, and of the liberty of the to keep the Militia embodied so long as *cum., battled,. get leiviii it to thidiiicretiiiii and respond- Engilih subject, • sappoting him to entertain the same ' stances rendered it necessary ; Parliament Itself hat - i bility of Mieliters; iiitsiteried'a itSett the power of belief with' himself on this subject; if, after everyl Ing the controal over the conduct, of the Govern ! ; controlling those .Acts *doffing td the circumstances public and private endeavour to remove this grievance ' ment, by holding the purse of the nation, and by l of each case. The Noble iiid darned Lord then without 'davits ' hi would not have adopted the the annual Mutiny. Bill. He admitted that it was ; referred to the miss' of thsl hatriectien• Mt - in 17112:- cowrie' which ha d been that' night followed 1 H. burdensome to that part of the Militia kept ernbo-; It was edliyitte at' tilt thiii wbether diaries* * * was we'd& Mk him what was the duty which they were died, and he should be doinggreat injustice to . that' any idlitcreCtiqd ; tiet - thereeould be no Mite that' celled on to perform; entertaining s as they did, di* force if be did not acknowledge, in the highest at the wag Whetithe' resurrection Ark.,slie pisaidleplbitia that the continuing the Militia embodied wet terms, their zeal and loyalty ; but it would have . therWstat no rebelliOnii invasion, cli; faintinetitdigtbegal; and if there was any consideration ea flirter been little flattering to them to have been dismissed get' of telielgen or invasion. The Gavernment hid Which ' ought to induce them to sit silent, wises they when the country so essentially required their . ser- . heard Of prietities'Whitili some day tic?other islifit . ' saw the laws of the country grosslyvieslated? Let ' vices for domestic military purposes, in order to en- ripen iiitd rebellion• bit - there nefei'dii ail at thii Noble and Learned Lord believe that this stet able the regular troops to support , the cause of the rebellion. It edilit ' epon the same prindpli 111WStis directly contrary to law—that an armed force. country against its enemies. Ile was, therefore, per- been contended that the Militia were entitled . Oahe eras continued in direct violation of the laws of t he . fectly satisfied as to the legality of keeping the Mi. to go htitie, as there was nut iriiiiirectioi or &SOT:: cottony, and that in other model of acting bad litia embodied, and fully convinced of its expediency, of insurrection ; and when tile/ were' *Veil' dritibtb:elh f.flid to effect the discontinuance of that f0r.,., under the circumstances which had existed. If, WhetiO there id ever been atiE inhaiiiiition. Hal lied& lin think that he discharged hie duty to hit, however, the House thought with the Notile . Emil, did nd't Wish' to tie ontierstaissils a litivinang_thit chi. 1 „ gonekry, if he refrained front declaring this opinion that . such practice was contrary to law, they would, 41140111'1.0e werriinted' id h ' ilk ale .Milftiiri eisi-1 its his place in Parliament ? When he saw the laws of course, decide in favour of the motion, whatever bodied, tinder eireueliteneardslien Parliament ehoulill *tested, as they were id this case, from their proper might be the consequences. If, on the contrary, think there was ne l'enier en? . oimisien fee their re:, signiAtitiew, it was his <tiny to declare such cos:. they thought that it was perfectly legal, and that ex- maining so embodied ; all he wish ell td iontind for i viction. If those persons who were reteinedi con.' pedieney required, under the circumstances stated, its nis t a:lt theme at, ie . nothing its the AO' of PeOftidlNeiti trary, 99 he conte n ded , to law, were to be infiu- 1 adoption, they would with him give the motion a de- • which uteri! farther than this': it Oftitakt eiti titillf: 'liked by opinion's delivered in that House, they cided negative. I enlifencia iiideit Which tits Mc alai might eilt 60 afoul& probatty think that more weight was due to Lord GRENVILLE said be had no hesitation to thit Militia & ,anildlieetal the atteative of Pailidalent ; Use opinions of the Noble Lord on the Woolsack, accept the alternative offered by the Noble Vi'scount, to the !MUM &rite° esstbOdied; 14 du the M i llabil - ena his Noble and Learned Friend (Lord Ellen and to state that he felt it his duty to give the mo. being ciilled - Ou7,tiltiTtliiiitientien Of Pailhisient title.. Biliottli) over eitinst him, than to any thing which lion of his Noble Friend his decided support, con- to their beliig . enill4o, thiAct viiiiiili left to'the; he cokild advance. The Noble and Learned Lords Tinged as he was that the keeping the Militia em- crown a itseretiOniii poolei t to act OW reipiat to 1, boatel Ifni fi til mote stitiogly thin) he did the necessity bodied, as stated by his Noble Friend, was wholly : Out fdititi,..titider the centred of Parlfetitint, Id .Or eeterdlibithin on the part of the Militia to the contrary to law. They had been told by the Noble , liespink ft eitiOdie'd or in desernbeify frig it, as shia ; Goreildinent, and deferioee to the o'piniOns held 11' Viscount of the opinion of the Crown Lawyers; but ; most for . the i'olit'init of the public, he Aid die. high iiiithoritiel in the hid, Which wet the only sari was it to be endured that the law which was to bind Motion hi the sense in which it was Used' by Ore** tenni* for them to pursue. moth hit Noble and the subjects of the country was to be taken from Linyes r s, not aqiiBi or !Lacy, but a sound alga je. /Arbil Friends, instead of meeting the question on the ipse dixit of the Crown Lawyers, and this too : dicious discretion in the exercise if Alma poivient this' grounds Which he eipectedinstead of telling upon a partial statement of the case referred to them? j which Were iesteri in die Crash' far he gilipral he.. deb Lerdstritis When the Prerogative fat Which they It was formerly the practice of the Crown to take ; *eat and eatiedieney. On thane trenudi he' . op, ! Were ioniinding was created =- bad pot themselves en extra-judicial opinions of Judges as to what was to posed the iddreis which itaid it? cisitrirt le ha - a level With the rest of their Lordships, jostifying be considered as the construction of law ; and thns , what • PSrliaMint hid for half a eitistril sitictiorlid isi I tbilitfirei net by intharitY bat by exempt!. When it was that it was promulgated to the country in the • eiseatitetietiat. . . I his gobli end Learned Fitted ever regai net him opal case of ship-money, that the Crown might levy 1 The Martitifail BUCKINGHAM alai, ice nein i ill i filwiefhoilti, he Wei entitled tb P.O highest re.. money upon the subject without the consent of Par. , could ever persiilde bile to assent to the Viwipeilifon, ifiettt bit ifieti be whilled to' initroet MM that there Bement. Now we were to be told, not from the: that it was: in [fie poier of Parliainitat to &Patti , wit mei danger Of itivistori at the period of the Irtser: extra-judicial opinion of Judges, but from the ; with the Mil of Rights, which semitid to isa:thit , reithni Rit, hi had !elected the only greand *hero extra-judicial opinions of the Crown Lawyers, that 1 there siteuittravetsibusdireLiany in ttnie - of in ;he bid ill oftintige over Mm. The Noble and the Militia might be kept embodied in time of peace, ! this coats try. AcCordiagto the Noble and Lidrned !..Leireed Laid eel& ant know what he (Lord G.) ' or so long as the welfare of the Government and of Lord on the Wooliaia, when the Minds weritillted I then knew. He had been mistaken in both instances.' his Majesty's dominions rendered it necessary. Was I out tinder the superintendence of ParlaMent, a i ded He hid esti that the Murder of the King of France l there ever such a dreadful doctrine held out to the Parliament thought proper to interfere,. the Militia! did not take plea; till two or three mpnths after the , public, that the military services of a numerous class might remain embodied it the pleasure of the CrOwir;• l ailing obt the billide ;. and that till lifter that event of the people might be continued without limit, at though the circanistmices under. which the y viers ithsii4iis tie danger of Neaten. Ols the 10th df the discretion of the Crown ? But how wets i the case aped together had cedad to exist . l:7ol This was not i Rigiit, , file Filiiieh Kiii sits Conducted to stated on which this opinion was given ? The Crown think under tile itithOrlfy a/ the statute lair of the ; the pitied *Mai hi 4041 fir his gilie. On the Lawyers were asked if there was any provision in , land, fiat of irlaiikar Nintitifi, Might persuade Pei.' Mere fillet that atilt iiittiWcti'O'f the King depended the Acts imperative upon the King to disembody the I liainent to kr - 4 ! ii to. Bit &Aries'; iikh the authority the qUesdOn of peeciiir Arita ?ranee; and those Militia? Ile had never heard in all his Parliamen- eir (hit doctrine; he wield idatitidi that ieeordink Miniiteh ill° a* the prilededitigedf the beginning • tary life of any Act of Parliament being imperative; to the Statuie, by width alene Governaient were ad- iof Ail I,:iiiiit hire bail mireleis indeed of the upon the King. The Constitution requiced.that they 1 thorised to till oet . in . d embody . the Militia, whets: Ogg daintier! 10 - .l fi elledinitilittettou, if they hid ecishould be imperative upon the King's ()dicers, and the circumstances citified on *filch the ciftfrig . hdt of i tielifec ' to pi-6;de foi the swami teliieh welt plaice. with them the respunsibility rested. The way of that force Wei nude to dr . pinkl„ that then they ought, ! Bit the ;sir might heitaid 'to hive kokimericed earlier, putting the question ought to have been, whet weethe Waltont ?el.,iy; to ,iii! didnibodied. The period of, Mr a deuce Bias publielied proraisifig math/aria to power vested i n th e C rown ? en d thi s , h e . con te n d e d , 1778,, al Oded to. by iiii rtaitiii Viscount (dintinth), 'this disaffected Iri every part of Europe; and thus the was limited by the preambles to the Militia. A c ts, was not in . Cidet i for theis We *ere On the eve of is !alarm Which existed in this country cou ld net.he dlr. which defined the circumstances under which the war with Franc* •• • • * i __. • ' connected wfth the di er of invasion. If fits . Ifebth Militia should be called out. Liiiiiind that it. could Lord ELLEfftielovirt gad ft beitila:llll, Ted Learned Fait ' tit that (herd court be wk. tint be extended by any construction of law , nor when he beard thii'ilk '.‘tiitarsaf, - Ohle - us' *lst s . . r „.. in _netkon is lug place the next week, • tit* of I' I • • could the opinions of the Crown IA wyqrs render that body of rnt ?Ili - Went, Isiiiigind dim, Seitlitiiit hi- ' or month ! , or even Aii . etext Six Montim• after the pa. _ sl ut law which was not so. He decidedly reprobeted, the . thority, de ;tail from lfineillia, *ids Nei& Its 'Rod in question, then he would observe, fhit the practice of referring to the Crown Lawyers as tp their hands to eyengllieli lintry's wroags, to give 'jilting out the Militia could not he eiecutt'd within what was to be considered l aw , whi c h could alo ne his d en i a l t o suc h a d ii. inke;eus doctiine, and to rt•iiiie tile than two or three Months, and When this he decided upon in the Courts after argunmet, and commend a clear and distinct rejection Willi Ad., AO tsilier; it brought together a body of men upon solemn adjudication. They all remembered .dress. ily . law Abe Kil Frei emioneterid tk . drew ,fiyit ' y endisiptined. With regard to the year (and here he did not mean to cast the slightest re- .etet in pertain cases the intik; end if the little& i77i,. the case dl 'not apply. If the enemy's neiet Ilection upon an individual now uo more) tiset,th . e silent ai to theeperied :vr en the Militia •• Alight lifenot been &reined in the Chinnel, the clirise - viz hr ' ‘e_r_---..e- ' .1 4 1. 4 /L ..f --- • - - • becai Noble Viscount, when formerly iu Administration, held an opinion that those who had volunteered their services for the defence of the country could got withdraw themselves from that service during the war, and this was supported by the opinion of the Crown lawyers, and yet when that opinion came to be decided upon in a Court of Law, it would not bear a moment's argument, and was immediately overturned. Such, he had no dpubt, would be the fate of the opinion now given by the Crown . Lawyers on the Militia Laws, if it were to come for adjedi. cation in a Court of Justice. It was true that the . L. , . ~, ._ .i - ,Et...,, ,ft to Nei, Ayres, IS w as .. use the IJr ee. 7 ~t ero9ilig this 1, 3! 9 5 ,.1 . 1*.. 11 ,,e, 111 , C: r . 'iTit el, 6 01#*' ,ereiie with most regard tiajsplp!stestiel , lh i cosstry, and . writ regard to . the, mesons .Sept . t it , iiiii ?I'l pritattosi by remaining so embodied. When la lily the 'Ong was empowered in ceciSip ' ies to Op out ; the Militia, and no time was iiii i f .es. ioittrpo.; ince of that force, : , how 4414 . bu Limited - lint .bil t e a sound prudence in the exerciie,onds orlrOgiiiit i %l The Noble and „Leased Lqrd thon Irt into in nio; i l l count of the rnsuroaction 40 it If The Inswil rection wos,..lre tip, rAdjc a lyp te . sllO ,th , I-i ii itP e PZ .4"rbod it 'r ' -- or i . . 4 1 ~ . :-----.----- --- --,-,-: . , . i cOe *Odd have lea Ae re . iiiield bf this Country; 5 • , • imibibintil 'Moil's of Fianke 'find Spain elide i **ironic' Vie 'Pau roliowink the dettit t for 1 "he vowed parjhhe acd oriel 'hie 'hipitiicht. Had an le!i!iiioe then tibi n ilea, k ',bold hit% ben di:4litre I;;liitether the ill tia.iisdatiid hoe bikto 'Will ,CiOnt co priveat very Mk Oil '666600 to ' the '1 3 4- 'snakeitif tisk "cc4ii4. Probehly th r ell:* ltittio . ~. !?u.ci r ki ai LtL' ui tiOitt'oght ISrwittwas ko Vile. . 'lle t‘li6Alustiley to osotiVe, t,t - - .6 -.. ' gii;rt . of hre lite ifiat.be looked Iliek i t ' • t , .', isititactron iiid itl)pl'iAAil lo tote arise lte, tip . Vie ( 3 , 'ehieterit i " tai /- Oie ',..0t, 6herits , ' V trned had • practice regarding the Militia extended their services during a war, ■nd nn one who hod at all observed thy. uncertainty of military events—no one who bad witnessed, in the course of a very short time, inva. Noveipber l , " i l)ifsdai s 'Ai the bells, set op , tree .y, and burnt abouti l a hundred casks. Before the departure of the post' which conveyed the intelligence of this Mir to Go. I ;oh.. .diet k , of my it the - 1 ' of 1 i ' Aeiht ' ,r'r7Vs.larYie Noble and Leal _ Lord truly stated, that Mi. sisters were then 110.0)03 strain every nerve to ob- • taiA the two points, of calling together Parliament, and calling out the Militia. Tney wished the autho. city of Parliament to frown down the opinions whi c h 'were then becoming but too prevalent, and a milit ary force to repress the disaffected at home, aho could be dangerous only because of the countenance givers 411 1 eus from abroad. But was it possible to draw th e smallest inference from this to a case where no da ft . ger was stated -to exist? No man court say th at Atettlea - threatened this country with i ttra ,i ort. We were at peace with France and with Ilo!l an d ; not 'only at peice; bit t ti matratt lance. IV hert z ," the Govertiatent of lifffweredcereriennt imaginary alkindists,.,no stun could sap that thew was any dam: ger now ; the difference betiaelevi thertwe peri o d s nes no less than between war a'nd Oboe. He remained convinced that to keep thit-fbreif oft ftist is' pea ce , and in circumstances witicif did not' threaten a rap. ture of that vette, was a direct viollitinreof the Con. stitntiOn. If the unsettled state of Europe' was leged as a reisbn fbr regeiting the Militia, rhea communication to that effect ought to be made to Parlialnent. The conviction on his mind was, that this fifrte was not kept up for the purposes which had been stated, but to enable Government to keep an army abroad, in order to obtain something o f an influence - en the negotiations which were going on in a distant part of Europe:. When this subject ca me to be argued, he was ready to show that such an army could not be aural, but meat, on the contrary, be prejudicial. The prerogative came first .to be accurately studied in the thee of Charles I. aid was the cause of the Civil War. Alter the Restoration, general words only Were used'; bht from that period there was no trace of an effective exercise of the pre• rogative dirt the Militia. The . time at length cane when the Crown was again entrusted with that con. - initutional force—not in the exercise of its preroga tive—but in conseguenceat as Act passed by Par_ littnebt, faint which thb whole authority of tW Crovin was defiled. The Earl of LI PERIN:001: sad, after ilhaopiniont delivered by his two Noble and. Learned Priends i it Would be preitimptuous in him to take up the Oudot at any length. It was agreed on all bands that Barbas meat had defined the circunetanoes under which the ' Militia might be embodied, but not those when they o4ht to be disembodied. Now he contanded, that ' this prima facie was in favour of a discretionary power in the Crown. The Local Militia was a force of a very different description from the regular Militia; and it would be tattotied with the greatest .incOnvenience that it should remain emboditilany longer Than neeeisary. What had theliws mated eta the subject statecitho cases when it might be em. bodied, and their the power to keep and continue it after the causes of disembodying it had ceased, for a period not exceeding six weeks. Here, instead of leaving a discretion to the Crown, a precise time was specified. Mild.ters had a full right to the use of this law in explantitidti of .the others. With that law be. fore them, specifying when the Local Militia should be embodied ' Cod .when disembodied, and with-the other Act tipecifying when the Militia should be embodied, it was evident that the disembodying. was dierely a question of discretion en the part of the -Crown, for whiCh 1141siisterti were responsible. We .Were still at war with America, and though pease was concluded with Frames, . out of the Treaty with *it country certain arrimgethents were to take place, .110 which a British force was to be kept up fee a b4use on the Continent. With the gamut elesiro of bodying the Militia, Government had pracsedil at far as circumstances would admit. Sollisethatheilli disbanded since the matter was.last debated lo Patio. /lent ; some were disbanding at present, ant would be disbanded as soon as the circumstances eciuntry would allow such a measure to be safely sallied into effect. All he maintained was, that Go. eernment had a latitude of discretion when such forts ought properly to be disembodied. Lord GRENVILLE shortly explained.—Thek Ltirdshipt then divided, Cotitehts • Nua-Contents Majnrity against the Address • 15 The Hoare imme di ately after Adjourned. ROUSE OP COMMONS. Petitions were presented from Siaford. Loughhemiegb, Chip peoham_, and Evesham, against the Ploperty Tax. Mr. PR ITTI. E preseived a Petition train the Canty ofTip• perarv, praying for as alteratino in the Con Laivs. Mr BURS' . nosed for leave In bring in a Bill to extend At Act which allowed the Magistrates it the Quarter Sessions to give an allowance not exceedinrg 5Ol. per anions to the Chap lains wiliciating at the County Gaols. This Act, limiting the al lowance to 501., was passed DO lung as 43 yeah ago, and slitte that time, even 51. of that allowance had been taken awns. from them in the shape of Property Tax. He, thereto,. moved for leave to bring in a Bill t o emibte the Magistrates to increase the allowance. Mr. D. GIDDY asked; whether this Bill was to he confined to the County Gaols, or whether it would extcad to Houses Of Cm rerti.m? 4IIr. HUH ST said, that it was roamed to County Cools. cave wale then given to brine in the Bill. It was afterwlrds .brought up. sod read a first time. Ordered to be read a second time un Friday sennight. Capt. BEN NETT brought in his Bill fur the Abolition of Gaol Fee , „ which was real o first time. After a few words from Sir WM. 'CURTIS, It was orderfed to be read a second time on Vietineadits next. W The Sheriffs of London appeared at the ear, and pretented a Petition from the Corporation of Lon• don, praying leave to present a Petition with respect to the erection of a new Post-Office in the vicinity of St. Martin's-le-Grand. The Petition alleged that the Petitioners had not sooner been enabled to maks the necessary arrangements with Govuontent upon this . sabj4Ct. thetiIANCELLOR of the EICOEQUER,. Asir* to express the conse n t o f hi s M a je s ty's Go. ierionent to the acceptelfice of thii Petition, to* occasion to contradict some rumours, which he on• deritobd bed .gene abroad, that Government had held nut a thieet to the Corporit ion of London upon the stihject. The fact was, that Government felt the erection Of a new Post-Office indidpensibly neces sary to the accommodation of the public, and bad Pt ' palled that opinion, but no threat whatever was used to any body of men. Several places bad bees •pointed met as eligible mites for the proposed bend+ 11% !bit the plibe pointed out by the PetitiOtters was, after roll consideration, deemed the most eligible, and, therefore, approved of .by Government. Be , * Sidi', from the estimate he had seen on the subject, he was happy to say, that • coevals's*. *Rh the wish of the Petitioners Week] be attended with lest expeoce than any other plan he had heard or. 'net, in a word, the project alluded to by the Petitioners