The National Register. — London, England, 1819-12-05 00:00:00

of Stamps was Dot brought forward now. Mr. fiROUG HA tI said, he must still urge his opposition.— It was die constitutionitcourse on a question of Supply to urge the subject of grievance ; and he therefore complained of the highly indecorous and indecent haste with which it • was enact'- soured to press those important measures which the Nlinivters now proposed for adoption. The people ought to have owe w make their feelings and sentiments knmin in that Ituuse. In violent as w..re the measures of that period of time. he be hevesithsoo-ssoulteewwwellwaseet but now not even two days would be allowed to the people to 01111011tief those measures which were not only to suspend but to overturn the Constitution. It they were so tired of a tin: Constitution. that it must be suspended without delay, then indeed would it be useles, for Ali:misers to attend their seats with any very anxious desire to watch the prowedings of the Ministers.—Motion agreed te. The !louse being in a Committee, Sir G. Vi' A.RIt ENDER moved, that 23,000 men he granted as seamen, including ti.tsou marines, there being an addition to the marines. which would release as many ut the army front service in the dock yards. Mr. J. P. GRANT observed, that if there were to be ,an atl• dhion of goal marines, and thereby relca.e 2,t;00 of the army ht an the dock yard duty. that change would be an actual increase aimy ; aad why was not such increase of the army put in such form t . _ Mr. TIER:NEN rematked, that tlie Marine Force vas the room natural tot the protection of the Dock Yards, but if there were not to be a curie:spouting diminution "of the Amiy, the increase of the Army world be ii,ooo instead of 10,000. Mr. OWE ER stateil, that by the tegulAtiont there would be an nicreasc only of abeut 49.00 Alarines. .Mottoit agreed to. sir G. Vi Ass ENDER then moved Grants of fi50,000/. for wage, for the seamen ; 612,3151/. for the Victualling of that number of men ; and 612,910. lit wear and tear. Mr. liAlt complained 01 change* that had been made in the mode of,oroving die Grants, and contended that it was not Ibuffrivnt so say that they had received the approbation of the proper department. Sir G. WAlt ltEy DEA : observed., that they had received the the approvahof the department which understood these ,nutt.ers betterthaii trinvielf; and that hi would therefore not presume to enter Into detail. where he was not so ranycrsant a others. Mr. RAILING could not but feel that it' any !umber of the Government stepped forward to promote an augmentation, that he ought to be prepared to show why it w as wanted. (Hear.) Grants agreed to, as was that her 104,001. for Ordnance. — Report to-morrow. NEWSPAPER STAMP DUTIES. The House. revolved itseffiino a Committee on the Newspaper Stamp Acute when The CDANCE:I.LOR of the EXCHEQUER Nose. liie said he should iio. now go to any length in detailing the business. as t:ie present wad ueesned by nim a preparatory proceeding. but it was man test that there had been a very considerable evasion of tne Newspaper : Scamp Duty in publications cotptiningcomments and winch went greatly to supersede newspapers. /le con cluded with moving as a resolution, that all newspaper shonid be imposed Au all publitatious containing comments ,or remarks on flatters concerning church or state. not exceeding two sheets, Aud .sold for a less sum than sixpence; that they should be taken to be newspapers. Mr..BailiGGHA 3,1 denied that there had been evasion or fraud : that ttjo Act epefidlki only to sheets containing •• New.. intelligence, or occorreuces;" and that pamphlets ccutsdning comments wise expressly omitted by emit Act. He also cunten 'tied that thi! measure now proposed would not have the desiretl Meet that the Govemnent hell been culpably neglectful of resorung to ilia means placed 'in their hands; and that the Ministers wousl Btwi that they must at hut resorts., the laws.— Ile also ag-airviged the necessity, of delay. to enable the people 'of England to consider, perhaps for the last time of pursuing such course, the prupnety of such measures. Agreed to filter sonic explanatory remarks between Lord Castlereagh; Mr. Brougham. Mr,,J.. P. Grant, 44c.—Adjourned • Tiiti Hsu* pct. t Mr. BROW:YEN presented toe report or the Committee of Supply, which was re..dasel tweed to THL aLLB I lOUS PR ESS. The Repo t s . uf the !tan, Veto.. Act Committee wai pre sented, read, sold agreed to.s., and a Kell ordered atecordwal‘, to entrail) the hp,* wiling fr.nu the Publication or Blasphemed. and Seditious Lib. la." The Law ()dicer. or the Crown and ?turfs were ordered to prepare and bring in the LAM . M.iNUFAL:Etiltl3icil 'Mutter, Mr. BEN LT I' gave notice. that WI Thunatay. the pin irol. hisleould whom II Mntiou to the /Image on the state of the Munufactuu nig Dons actv,intrlicolui I) in the Comity of Lancaster. —....... Mr. IIIA:CW LLL preamited µ petition trims a body of people So a:ion:lad, praying fp tse accommodated with the meant of Linisrat ins to lysinxila, or elsewhere. Ordered to lie on the wive. ssEDITtOUS LETINGS' BILL. The SOLlt: I f (if:NI:O(AL rose to noise the second residing of the Seditious Meetings' Bill. The indisposition of his Learned t„ul e.igue lind imposed on him this duly. lie felt conceried Ueu b , owtirtble tieotlionen opposite should so undexy4sie the ditheultiem of the prisient period ; but oat only was 8 Revolution on tile point of hreuk tog Hitt, to adopt laosusge of the popers,Sind before the Hotoe, in Lincashiie Ate. but a evy ajspilsti spirit existed in other counties iii tlit North %of Eugh. ad, dad to the 111 estern mid populsn a part o Scotland. he most uncimst:tutii ttttt I tinctrines were sent forth from the heed.quorteri in 11.411111 , 1bhire, HS well ns tit raters of polltieBl debates I and they %rut further, for they pursued ncourseof inti.aidation, Mill preached the doctrine of illSbAsAII+lll tttt —(lle.mr, hear). They clear y ; ttt i tt ted 1101 particular individu.ils, aid naked whether there %Vic 119 HO tote Brume ready' t.i N. p fssr ward for the foment of the country. The Mt* provisions did 11101 ikfri•ri th•ple portent nonsarks of the Liners" of the Subject, the'l•r i it by J.uty, find the eeduiti of lime Press. It eslabli•hril no p:evtosis census ship—( lutilletw..cs l i um Ilse Opposition) —it prevented evasion of.the stamp ditty, and Reunited sec:ies jib Wet Hip; .who lent forth should be pi epat ell to be AlllWer4blC4Ul their poblie•tions. As to the enacting of transportation for ireotitt ofYrneee, it was only its we cos dance Milt the pi entice of 114.2 14w in other cases. I had. however, 11..rweliargr-d on the taw oltiorra, 11141 they had been sispiGe in tile prosiceili• ; but ih tins ilscie was no tooth, eseep• in very few instattiees. Ho On oral that there imd unexpectedly now Stoned forth 61101 * flood and torrent from the cheap nod *minium. pits., tort they felt it nest to an impossibility to check it b; wrrorneH enure isobar, ff. object wan not to inter fee to •.w public right 10 meet, ;int to prevent alaming, and setliii meeting , . Nothing but the applie.ition of the Bill wOnlil meet the exieetie of Ike e.i.e; and he could not boI express the Lope that ale Hill ;sunlit have the ►upport even of man, of the wen! a oppoaile. _ _ Mr. LYTTLE'IoN raineabeJ lii approlornottof tlor , Buil. roillefailiele, flidl.4t . mat.. rMrntiAl lo of Ilse CouNtilut loef, and to pm down Rebels and Traitor•. Mr. COKE oftverting to what had been said about the five magistrates, who might be found as consenting to calla meeting, he said it was a possibility, but not one very likely to happen. (a laugh). Surely this should put theni a little on their guard, at least, in considering such a measure as this. The county of Norfolk, he was sorry do say. had witnessed more contested elections, perhaps, than any other—la laugh). .The cossequenee was, the excitement of an angry party spirit throughout all classes, and the lord lieutenant of that county not being on the popular side of the question. dad exercised his power in the most ungentlemanly manner—(Loud cries of hear. hear. .amt order). Ile begged leave to mill the attention of the House. while he stated that this spirit was carried so high, that many gentlemen of consequence in the county, but of different prin ciples, were excluded from the commission of the peace. A friend of his wished him to be put 'into. the commission, which his lands anti properly in the county awe considered to entitle him to expect ; but when application was made to him, the lord lieutenant fetused to put him into the. commission. He felt this to be • circumstance not worth noticing. Nor , did he speak to biro again ; for God knows that he never would ask any favour of that Lord Lieutenant ? (Cheers and laughter.) What, then, did he slo ? lie (lid not apply to. the Lord Lieutenant of the county of Norfolk ; not lie, incised but he went to the Lout Chancellor. (Lord Eldon) and repeated to him, peisonsifiy, that which had taken place in Norfolk. And what slid the Chaneellordo? Why, just what he calks:led he would —lie expressed himself in use most handsome manner, and said,. —•• It is not in the breast of the Lord Lieutenant. Sir is. exclusie groilenien from being pot Imo the cunimission of ibi peace, mit in that of the Lord Chain eKor. The is.tios> you have given to me, 3lr. Coke, are proper ,and. ,guiding names, asa.l.l will bike care to put them He, ;sem...riled to show. that tbe effect of the propmed bill ws add sir to render the magistracy mole directly subset s tto the is li ll islets of the Cilia li—a syaleied they were g. time more sod more into day by day. He had always e l .. , u.ed it, and alionlif still re•ist it sill death. The boo• gent. esinclistlctl by expressing Isis total dissent from the primipte, exteist, and permanent opetation of the bill. [ 100 caressively long .debate ensued, snit we regret I hat the limits On weekly Ne.ds simper preclude—the possibility tit our giving even an module of the disiequalled sail wonderful display of eloquence exhibited by Mr. J. Meedoniffil and Mr. Brougham during the discussion) After which MI, WOO EtIOUS I.: snit he begged Move to put a ques• lion to his ildinnuruble colleague respecting the conduct of Nohle friend of his that had been whirled to by the teamed gentlemen He Iwgaesi to ark, a heflaer. ►a unts alter dna Noble, laird'. (Suffield's) becoming Lord Lieutenant of the comity of Norfolk, it had nut been prop •sed by the ;i obis Lord to hiiii (Mr. Coke) to give in a list of those gen tlest,. it a h 1w might think fil in be windowed to the cum uli— sin of the peace ; and whells, r, Ull Isis laUlitlikailllll. they bad not been appointed. (Cheers from the maiii,lerial side ) Air, COKE replied, that Certainly 641011 alter the NoMe Lord a applusintr.it to the Lord Lieulemincy, such u pre poisl had been in ale; .siid .t hat 'Accordingly it list was dsow II up awl prer•nlest is. the Noble Lord ; n o t th a t ,e o f o n genii n ihnssois in the list had bees. appointed. (Loud elms rs folio the opposilioo). lie (Air. however, applied L. ias• Lord Chancellor, a hu, lifter obsetsing this he slid not 'husk Mr. liike would nominate any peison who was .sot fit for Ilse sc • did appoint them all, a tW the exception tit* sow !immoral> e trieult of his, a member of A , at House. Stragers were then ordered to withdraw,and a division took place on the second reat , ing— For it. 351.—Against . it, la —Majority. 22;. The Bill was they, real a second time and ordered to be com mitted. Adjourned At three o'clock. cupma rTrt or SUPPLY. Upon the motion oft e Chan. eilor or the Exchequer, the Committee or -pup!) , was postponed to Monday next. In ant4wer to a question from Mr. Phillips, which we could riot di .tinctly hear. the Chancellor of the Exchequer said, he should shortly call the a.tcntion of the House to the Du ties on Malt. WAYS AND ?ARAN! The CHANCELD tk of the EXCHEQUER moved the Howie into a ononittee of Ways and Means. Mr. KENNEDY I:egged to he informed by the Right Hon. Gentleman. whether it was the intention at government to modify the Act of last Sei.iott respecting.zne equalization of Malt bialys in the Highlands of Scotland. The temptations to illicit dis dlatiun were so numerous, that serious injury 'night he apprehended to the Revenue, if the measure was continued. Ihe CH NCELLOR of .heEXCHEQUERsaid,that several representatiott, upon the subject had been made to him. The course he pursued was, to lay those representations before the Commissioners of liacise and as soon as their opinion was made known, the House should be put in possession of the determination with respect to the Bill. The House iiten went into a Committee, in which the usual annual duties were voted —Report on 1 4 14..ii1 1 ay• 00003 I/APOR rto INTO ',ISLAND. Mr VE-F.Y f ZUERAI.I) called the attention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to a subject which, he said, caused great anxiety, particularly in Ireland s namely, the repeal of certain duties established by the Act of Union upon goods of British produce imported into Ireland. The situation of that country was such, that it was important to ascertain whether those Jut es were to be cs-tit.buetl. Al ready the Right Hon. Gentleman had made him acquainted with the views he at present entertained upon the subject. It would be extremely desirable that the public should be made acquainted w th -itch intention. The CHANCELLOR iii the EXCHEQUER said, he was aw.ire of the imp irtance of the subject which was now under the serious consideration 01 the 'ere:story. He was convinced that whatever alight be the result of the enquiry the conti• miaiice of the duties tor some time would be unavoidable. lie was not aware how lung it might lie found uecessary to cunt;a.c •Iteitts ----- .--over nnten We . .inerstood the CHANCELLott ot t c.XCHEs c I uER who spoke ins wry low tow, to soy that the clues. bon should co lie before the House as quickly as possible. Mr PARNELL wi.hed hi know whether the article of Union by which those duties were imposed would not berio latcd by the con tinoance of them. f he' CH A NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, the duties could certainly lw continued after the expiration of the act. Parliament had then the power to teconsider the whole. lIEDITSOOI SILITINCS BILL Lord CASTI.FR EAGH •in moving that the Seditious Meeting , . 13i11 should be committed. sta.ed that he had no alterations to propose in that stage of the bill. On the recommittal he should state to the House the meditated hanges Mr I'IERNFY asked whether it was the Noble Lord's inrrntion to make the measure a temporary one I Ord CA ..TLER FAGH declined an.wering the question, All a debate which could be of nu pos.ible advantage, might esisue. Mr f lERNEY said, the answer was the very tiling that would prevent a &bate at that moment It was must anxi ously wished that the measure would not Le made perma nent If that was the determination, it was a proof of wrath avinst the people. Lord CASs LEREAGH disclaimed having any feeling towards the people but that of doing them service. Mr. lIERNEY hoped the Nohle Lord would propose on Monday that the measure should be temporary, and not . . . _ Me LAMB lON took the opportunity of alluding to ■ misrepresentation made in another place, with respect to the meeting of the inhabitants of the county he represented (Durham) That statement had given a most erroneous im pression with iespect to the assembly. He was convinced that the Noble Lord, who spoke of .t in such exaggerated terms, was informed that his authority was correct, but from the many inquiries he (Mr.:Larribton )'had made, he was con vinced there.svas ground for the declaration that 700 ,armed men from the forges.attended the Meeting. The re ply. twins inquiries was, that not one man came armed, and a foreman to one of the manufactories from wh ch the armed men were said to have issued asserted mo.t positiuely. that it was impossible that arms could have been madt there, for the metal of the proprietors was weighed out regularly. and the workmen were in too great a state of poverty to purchase iron themselves. He denied that theie was any disaffection isting in Durham. The people were firmly attached to Reform, but he by no means belie% ed them to be indisposed to the Government of the country. Sir M W RIULEY, said, he was requested by the Re hab tams of Newcastle to deny that they had tumultuously assembled the greater numner of those who attended the Meeting of the Inhabitants felt disappointed when .he _ore tors were observed. The Meeting nut only assembled, but dispersed in the most peaceable manner..and the number did not exceed 7000, The Hon. n.l unet then read a letter from the Secretary of a Society iu Newcastle, defying a proof of tumult or disaffection, and declaring that those suspected of Sedition were only anxious for Reform. Lord CAS I . Lr.REAGH, in answer to the observations of Mr. Lambkin, said, that the evidence that 700 men had not gone armed, where there were 40,000, could be of little ef fect. • The House then went into a Committee, the report Was rereived, and t he Bill %Ma ordered to be re-commi.ted on Monday next. Lord CAirLEREAGH then brought in the LIBEL BILL, and moved that it should be read a first time. Mr..llßoi4cHAm said. this Bill was part of a system to abridge the liberty of the press. He must therefore enter his most decided protest against it; but be ►hould not at this moment enter upon the subject, The Bill was then read a first, and ordered to be road a w coaLi time on Thursday, and printed. Adjourned to Monday. Within the last seven or eight days, the vicissit u des of the weather have been remarkable. On VlTedneralav, in the last week, at 8 o'clock in the morning, the thir inonictor hail sunk seven degrees below the freezing point ; on Monday, at the same hour, it stood at fifty, and by two o'clock that day, it hid risen to tilly-three; and. on Tuesday at ten o'clock, it attained the mean trio perature of the.wbule year ; or fifty-live. ..iittract of a letter front Ayrs, dated August 20 :--'• Gerwral San Martin has been called .over here by the Government, in order in talie the command of the army against any expedition that 11151 S wrive. lle will reach this it, tom dais, with in the mean time we are straining every nerve to have our preparations ready, ane place the country iu a situation manfully to rcprl the last efforts of Spanish hostility, or perish in the attempt. This i the "vowed deter' ll ill ation of every individual here, from the highest to the lowest. So far every inweinent of the Fortogese appears to be directed to oppose the Spaniards, and we have certain accounts that they are dortifying Santa Catalina, and ltio Grande. The same is taking place witb Montevideo, which, it appeart, has been circumvalated with a ditch. The arm of Peru is in cantonments in the neighbour hood of Cordova. lii the province of Cikyo, General San Martin has assembled a division of 3,000 men, with 18 pieces of cannon, intended to ado .tp the general defence, if not wanted, he will lead them against Luna." Extract of a letter dated Manchester, Dec. :2:— " I have just heard teat Walker and Knight have this morning been arrested on a warrant of Colonel Hargreaves, .:11 active magistrate residing near litiride.y, and the charge against them is understood to be bight treason, committed in the part they took at the meeting held ut I-laberghum Eaves on the 16th ult., when a large part of the persens assem bled went armed, as is shetvn in one of the last of the papers laid before Varlianient.".