The Statesman. — London, England, 1820-11-07 00:00:00

• m ute this looming received Paris Papers. of So. their contents are altogether unimportant. F ,,,,0; rot os.—Fire per Cents. 76 f. IS c.: Bank AL , m a, 13771. 30 c. Tray. Oc T , 46.—The .lustrian army in Lombardy y e astias states , co nsists of 70,0(10 men. It is : Init i a t ;kr pacifi ca tion of Sicily will be long and „ pi t . The gnglish squadron which is in our roads. corf eat alarm. Accottnts from Naples state, that on no have assembled there from p d ifferent pro -0,1 hare determined to enrol themselves. (h r. 2 I. —According to the latest accounts Nil is still in possession of a citadel in an island •tsJo:la—all his hopes of being succoured by the ,ilio.; vanished. A le:et from Constantinople states, that the troops of ~,,o,Asatinotoa have attempted to assault the fortress .40 1, bat, it is asserted, they have been repelled. loicHA still makes an obstinate resistance in the p e, of Teklini, at the head of 1500 men. Tutel ar whit!, we had long anticipated has actu- 1 P oured; the House of Lords have voted that the . o f M PS Intl Penalties be read a second time. We Nil lee oar readers for this decision by the cal. caac t4 gial which we had been furnished the mid. I all d b i g w o, and they cannot fail to remember komor tioesotant we then presented corresponds , mrph which we yesterday published. In our pfis d OPely we give the list of the several r te is alli feted on this ever-memorable occasion ; t oienolts this will be found some noti"e of the 111116111 and irresistible influences under which a reef Ike the decisive number of these noble indi vilmh must have been determined in their Totes. Gehl we with equal facility discover, and could we with rius . : safety communicate, the more obscure, and no iss preponlieratiag motives, arising from person3i Gpendearesn.l party spirit, or from causes totally it , ukcant to the merits of the ease, which are likely u Imre operated no the occasion, bow completely r .i we remove 31 i occasion for surprise at the tieci in: Never rime the claims of prerogative were uitil, was any measure submitted to a Parliament, asst accsayanicd by circumstances calculated to pra t:teas astl.:r or unconstitutional bias. Not only are C:rpossital credit, and the official stations of the itxc's Ministers at stake on the issue of the proceed. 4s, bat, let what will be said for the purpose of *visits( With, the inclinations and the earnest iilk , i d the lir va liln.se!f. It would be altogether NANO inconsistent, and impGssible, were the case Itiodlfinnt. In such a situation, are those noble person. vs who, from Amity connexions as well as Political etipliel habits, are allied in the closest manner to the Ilsisteri, and to the Crowr. even when all direct cor. min is discarded, and all the honour supposed to merre which it is possible fir human beings to pos ts; in such a situation how is it porsihle for men to acid. but under an influence that is hostile to the his in question? In the formation of a Jury, bow maims, and justly anxious are the parties who are interned in the issue of the cause to be brought be he them, to exclude from the number every indivi- laid whatever. who has the smallest in:crest or even prejudice in the case ? With *hat precaution had the tterstitution, by which that unrivalled mode of trial rasappointed, provided means of removing both ob 'saes juror•, and even the cause itself, wherever any inkier eirculostonce was likely to produce in jestice In the case of any criminal charge, how care felly sad ten.le rly art prearded the lives and characters*f tie accused ! The evidence necessary to convict is required to he clear anti conclusive. To present as sad as possible ail injury to the persons charged frem the %twine impressions or the Ignorance of indl 'ideals, the taw is not sltisfied with the decision of the majority of the jurors, but demands that they shall be all UIIaIIiITIOUS. look at this picture and at that ! What au infinite difference between them! The House of Lords, however venerated, and however truly vene rable it is as a constituent part of the great legisla tire body, composed of men of like pasabins with our mitts, and constituted as we know they are, mast be conscious that in a question of such momen tous magnitude as was decided yesterday, on whith the public have had such ample means of forming an opinion fur themselves, a decision made by sect. a majority eu 11 , 311 then exhibited, can never, in the preseut excited state of popular feeling, obtain the due respect and acquiescence of the nation. 'The numerical strength of Ministers Is a complete exposure of the obnoxious nature of their measure. Their clergy', though ostensibly voted according to the established forms of the House, are evidently con trary to its real and independent spirit. With a mino rity, consisting of 95 Peers, 10 of whom are Dukes, and with a majority above them of only 2s, how is it possible fur the public to be ever satisfied that the evi dence can be sufficient to degrade a ! To sup pose that the public will be influenced, in a case like ' this, by the paltry numbers of such swots, or the autho rity of names, is to be grossly ignorant of the actual state of the nation. For the accusers of her Maseru, who have just sat in judgment on her,' to hatter thens 7 selves that they have obtained a victory, Is a fallacy which, if they pursue, they eanot All to rue. If they are sot quite infatuated, or' overreed, and indifferent to the good order of the nation, they will heats to withdraw a measure which otherwise cannot fail to prove a Bill of Pains and Penalties to themselte‘ THE STATESMAN. should be received. lie found in that address, that, the)dlithels of the Heide. 4 , insinuations had been thrown out against those Peers Jecteuns which this Hoek takes w h o had b een on the Secret c ro h; n itt ee . H e had' Matter contained in this paper. r to receive the same as her Me been on that Committee, but he stated to the House . what i e has farther to state is the grcunds on which he foisided his decision. And , Loot ' OACKE did - not-wish , he did not know why, after a man had manfully and resolution. He concurred mitt boldly declared his sentiments on the occasion, his Lord lIONOCIIHMORE pert opinion shbuld be called in question. , per should not only he veceo The Duke of NEWCASTLE role with indignation, ' cility should be given for its to repel the observation which went to restrain the agr th It onght to appeat notes ' , ansl at really and truly be privilege every Peer had of giving his opinion. He lion which some Noble Lords had attended closely to the subject, and conscientiously s errs o Committee was not put gave his decision. . had eons. into the Secret Commit The Duke of ATHOL also conceived that the and he had not objected to that Noble Lord was out of order. 1 ditty throughout the rase. He . Lord SHEFFIELD said a few worde, we believe. any statement made hr the accused that any thing ohicla the accused against receiving the protest ; but he was quite itt audible below the liar. might to he reeeived with I there at y t sing new in this The Earl of CAR NARVON was of opinion that no , any thing whieh had not I Peer who bad not given an absolute attendance every bandied about from one side of day, he had al t said every hour: was eotoPetent to • The illustrious person appealed give a vote. That he might be able to discharge Ills! proccedines.--so she did from duty faithfully, it was necessary that lie should have i illustriousillustriousperiasn declared het heard the whole of the proceedings, but most especially from the Iseginning. The ill prosecutors hello accused. With ; b een the g rav amers of het obi should he have heard the defence, if the incline - I against her ti In of his mind were against the respect to the document now offered by her Ma i r i n m or. The Noble Lords jesty. 1011111t . r it were called a 11,•titisios or protest. is, :erret c„ ':tee, had spoken, Or whatever else, he c,,ssfessud there were come' justification of their conduct. um; itarleil expressions ill it. and which be 4-amid 1 'I he LORD c H A NcebunK ts ish had n.. 1 been introduced. lint when he ronsiderrd ' i n ti m. the state of her 11l ajr.ty's mind, under the weight of their 1 D Lord LAUDERDALE moved Los slaisips decision, he dont ght a much inure than the word §S jaitir“ sh o uld b e i ll , ordinary latitude .looonlol in. allowed tier. lie repealed 1 o nrigitt." he should have heen betty,- pleased it' the language ; Earl mum said, that t i n hail been snore secnrate : hut the olooruonent in tow- 1 whirls their Lordships had lion was prepared under circ ttttt stances which must ' rot:tiling'. was so irrhssediable, have completely destroyed all caution and discvnittw c o ward trice a silent vote upon in the human mind ; and Ise thought their Lord atrreeil to the resolution, hot ships might, without at all derng ogati fr their dig- ;1s didofr so. upon the oround, nity, receive the protest. With regret to the Ses•ret rieht to make the elierptios It' miller which had been appointed in the first taineol. For the exceptions instauce, he for one should base objected to locitot one them to b e most just and wi of its usembers, because recollecting that he should ti d att d t h e No bl e I lln k e (N , afterwards be called upon to consider the case as a acq,;,..d distaste f or ea ,. / Judge, he should be snore than ordinarily cautious . , was rather strange that in attending to any cape: t • statement n Isiah might being deprived by an ex- post by any possibility have the stnalle,t intineotose ni 164 upon the most violent mind. Notwithstanding the Ling sage of the protest, ever was enacted. He cow every person nowt fret that its statement.; mere sub- Noble Lords could vote for stantially correct. lie declared (and as ith pain he , our wor d o r the defence, ronsi, said it) that if he were one of her Majesty.' Counsel He knew not how they rout he should, after what haul taken l'la'e i" the "'u se of conscience to ,'ice a vote of the proceeding. have withdrawn trans the Bar, aban: I 'seethe best judges of the slimed the case, left the Jurors in tli-pose of it how 1 would have to answer to they pleased, and he never afterwards should think of t „i e „ ce. making any appeal to that (he supposed he must Ball I Lord REDESDALE del it) august assembly. After any Lord had nail Ise felt 1 Members of the Secret Corm himself at liberty at the termination of the proceedings! R m . to Come to a decssion against his Queen without hasime i heard her defence, he should consider that the vital prinriplesofjustice had been trampled own. line of those vital principles was, that in the Criminal Law no person should be condemned, but by oral testimony which it was competent in him to examisie and contradict° anti that ire shonid be allowed to m ski: his full defence. It was self-evisient that the malsisse a defence woul I he I perfectly useless, unless the Judge heard :sod attended to it. But he had heard it stated in that House, that rd Noble Duke felt himself jostified in coming to a de cision sin written testimony only, and without having heard either the defence, or the evidence adduced in support of it: and this too the Noble Duke had no daft , cults' in doing, althouseh the case was the consideration of an ex post facto law. th.: object of which was, to de throne his Queen.:-(Hear, (sear. hear!) Although it was for a crime unknown to the law, and although the case sought the making a crime. an,l then punishing it by one and the same law, yet did the Noble Duke not hesitate to give this taw tior sanction of his vote, with out having beard the defence.—(lle .r, hear. hear.) Murk a law, on the contrary, ought to have excited his indigs Illation, fur it was a law subversive of every principle of justice. lie expressed his feelings strongly, but he wished so to express them, for he felt that throughout the I whole of these pros- edings the character of the House had been endangered. Ile coneeived that no Peet ought to have voted on such a proceeding who had not heard the whole of the case, and most especially that part of it which constituted the defence.—(clear, hear ).--It was for this reason that no Peer could Tote On such a proceeding, except in person, for the very nature of the case excluded the bare idea of* vote by proxy.— (Cheers.) ---That there were ample grounds for a per sonal appeal tdost of them mast feel, and if they did not so feel, the country most certainty did. Without consenting to the appeal, the House never could occupy the high situation which in, the opinion of the country and the world it had been so long Rectos- Owned to fill. The LORD CHANCELLOR had not found dee least disinclination in any part of fhb I 'house to receive the protest. On the contrary, it sr peared to him that there *as every disposition to receive it. He took it, that her Majesty was entitled, it she thought proper, to appeal and make any statement whatever to the house. Bat that statement would not influence their Lordships judgment. It cools! be insert ed in the Journals of the house, and no more. If in the address there should be nay thing affecting the dignity of the illonse, or any individual, such parts would not appear upon the journals'. It appeared to him that if the protest were received, their Lordships should adopt some mode of stating their . , opinion• upon what the Protest contained. With respect to what. had been said respecting those who vested arithout at tending all the proceedings, it was an indisputable t•fact that in inspeachtnents \nide Lbeds hid iaced i without bearing ell the evidence.---(ftexr; hear !):-.- Ille would never shrink from owning that he sslaa one of theee who advised the communication to tbeir Lordships, of the matter upon which these proceedine* I were founded. He had been one of the Secret Commit. I tea; ;and when he looked back upon the soiautos of the Besse, and tonal that be bad been celled and expected le ist Mom to, he should have ',dated -one of his &Wet to that House if be had ceased (Het7.7:- t'i i bet object to the protest, but he elould pro v' ilitalling resolution to be inverted sick it epos -tit TIC EIC Palll gallant crews of the Discovery the cheering influence of The only li%ing creatures lined in the harbour of Mi whole and a white bear. 1 couragetnent presented by gion, Lieutenant Parry•, we that in a future attempt, • uncommonly unpropitiou! complisli the grand object maritime nations of Rumps., the Pacific Ocean through On Sunday the follow , other persons of distincti. at Itrandenburgh-house:. Duke of Redford. Earl of and also Lady Ilood. .' I . . TilE SEDITIOES H.ssro, collect th it Mr. Williams, Si. Martin's-lane, is the p instrumentality the incendi scot enabled to evade the, This Mr. Williams has the missioners of Assessed St. Martin's-in-the-helds tended in his place at the conclusion of the business, (a very worthy and active seat, took his hat, and addi missinners, observed, that ' a long series of years, WI sit there again so long as members. The other r rose, and simultaneously propriety of his withdra' Hams as instantly took m The readers of " The formed, that, owing to an Irreparable dekct In their the papers of yesterday lishea at a later hoar than making tb remedy the defect sure an earlier peblication.- PitiNCtl.T AIrECDOTE.. -- ;. female royalty, at a distance an efficient guard against yet. in England it is well self could not adopt a more his " thing.'" from picki' " heigh, fellow! well met . inferior to the Chamberlain gilled that, previous to the Wales upon her eventful offences lay iu the eclat places of public aosnw.meut, Italian Opera one night per both parties ; tut the Lady the usuil Warmth of mew; tient auditory, the °emit accosted, in his way throng :Townsend, of Bow-street rinto l ; t here ! turn back !---Iteeta do Townsend e" said one of the Pr's. Ahearn's here, and she's 'eclair tell ye!' And so the Retest-trit :!Ulster Townsend's bidding, like , stitir their tails •• standing prostrate r • It.e Meeting of the fratitthioners !111.-Fields- which we aanottaeltil . tor the purpose of addressing *tors to a•public one, Ifeoting was held today , tespettably attended. 'rHE QUEEN. 11001 E OF I.olWll.—Tass MORNING. Previously to the calling over the Peers, the officers of the !louse cleared the inner Bar of strangers, from which circumstance it appeared that the Conned were about to appear at the Bar, when the Peer 3 had been called surer. The Earl of LAUDERDALE rose and said, that he was not aware of any order for the attendance of Counsel, and he observed that the Bar had hero cleared apparently for that purpose, he wished to know the reason of it. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he knew not whether the question of the Noble Earl might he con sidered as addressed to him, hut, he could only sae, that he knew nothing at all about the matter. — (A laugh.)---The better way would be to send for the officers of the House. Mr. (Fiume was aceordinely sent for, and, having appeared at the Bar, he was asked hr the laird titan. tenor whether he could inform the (louse by is hose orders the Bar, had been cleared. Mr. Quarme said, in answer, he could not, for he had found it in that state on his first coming down to the !Jonie thi s ow n- ing.—(.\nother laugh.) The LORD CHANCELLOR.—" Then send for the Usher of the Black Rod. - lie was a c co r dingly scat for, and a considerable time elapsed, u hen The Earl of LAI' DERDA LE suggested that it would be better not to suspend the business of the [louse until the arrival of the Usher of Ow Black nod.— (Hear, hear.)—lt would, however, he advisable, to take care that nothing of this kind should he repeated without the order of the House. At this moment Sir Thomas Tyrwbitt. the Usher of the Black Rod, appeased at the liar. I f The 1.01(1) CHANCELLOR then put the question to him, which had been put before to Mr. Qm.rme. Sir Thomas Tyrwhitt said, that the clearing of the liar had taken place in consequence of a no tification front the Clerk of the Attornev-Beneral ; that the Learned Attorney was coming down this mornim; to the house.—(llear. hear, hear!) The LORD CHANCELLOR said, this matter might as well drop here : with an intimation that the officers of the house would distinctly understand that they were nut to attend to the direction or suggc.tioo of any Jerson, but were only to obey the urdecs of the house. • Sir Thomas Tyrwhitt bowed and retired ; and this iwp....irrof question was then disposed of. THE QI - EF.N's PHOTE`:r. Lord CACHE presented self h;i.•re the House. in consequence of a document that hail just heen put into his hands, which appeared strange to him who had taken Po part in the debate which had occu pied their Lordships meads distressing' occasion. had been just put into his hands. from her . Majesty, and he begged their Lordships attention to its contents.—(Hear, bear ”—ller Majesty protests' strongly against those Peers who hare heen i n the tie- 1 tett Committee, and who have v.•ted on this occ.s . ons. —(Hear hear !)—Bat she most strongly protested against those Peers, who heard the case against her. and not the defence.—(Load l'herrs.)-1 he Noble Lord then read the protest, and said that he felt it his duty to more that that protest be received.—(Lond Cheers.) ►ROTF'T. " The Queen has learnt the decision of the Lords upon the Bill now before them. In the face of Par liament, of her family, and of her country, she does solemnly protest against it. Those who avowed themselves her prosecutors have presumed to sit in judgment upon the question between the Queen and themselves. Peers have given their voices against her, who had heard the whole evidence/or the charge, and abseutrd themselves during her dcfrrety. Others have come to the discussion from the Secret Committee with minds biassed by a mass of slander, which her enemies have not dared to bring forward in the light. " The Queen does not avail herself of her right to appear helot.? the committee; fur to her the details of the measure must be a matter of indifference; and, unless the course of these unexaMpled rroceedings should bring the bill before the other branch of the legislature, she will male no reference whatever to the treatment experienced by her during the last 25 years. " She now most deliberately, and before Dori, as serts, that she is wholly innocent of the crime laid to her charge; and she awaits, with unabated confidence, the anal result of this unparalleled investigation," The LORD CHANCELLOR then rose. Undoubtedly he said, after the second reading of the Bill, Ow l h person who was the object of that prosecution bad, a right to he heard at the Bar. But their Lose ships should consider, whether they would retell* that in the shape of an address, as in the case air Atterleery and others. For strictly speaking, it could. not be received as a protest. Lord DAUREsaid. he was aware of the rule :shill down by their Lordships, but he thought that Al House, considering the rank and situation of that il l , lestrious individual should not confine themselves to these rules. However, if the Hoese thought other , wise, be felt himself authorised to present It in the shape of an address. Lord LIVERPOOL said, if that was the least incon venient manner for addressing the House. be had no objection it should be received as an address. But he thought an entry should be made on the journals, to prevent its being banded down as a precedent. he CHANCELLOR hoped, the House would do hint the credit to 'believe, that he did nut rise for the purpose of opposing that address, bat for the pages/ of ,stating the rules totheir Lordships. Ou the sub ject 'matter of that address, he would make but one oh soma**, and That was, that he did not boo* by , what role any penal at the Bar, conk' make any ;penitent on the eroded, wither of the decision, or eft any iodividual Peer. * • Lord LAUDERDALE rid, la t wailer all thseir camstaaces of the ease, he did think that protest . , Motel ths*nding the A- ke, to softie . parts of the ✓. neverthelesit it consents - laiesty*s representation of . in her defence." hue alter 001 word of Alt th it entirely. • • e• t wrfectly agreed that the pa;• •t eked, lent that every fa- 'l. a. s n?ception. He cordially tr in their Lordships ml- be slid not feel the °We- rth had expressed. Thb tint tieon Its defence. He smittee with lois eves open. tat which was Isis botintless . • le was not bound to *newer cussed yerson. fie thought used person might present every fteilite. But was 1 is prote,t ? Did it contain been belose stated, and of the Haute to !lie tither. Iled against the form of the oat the beginning. The lee inno,:ettee,—so she slid Ilastrinus person protested Ile her jnolges, this had objection front the Veil' he- t who ha.l been upon the ten, not in defence, hat in t. LOR then put the Reap- need as an amendment' that •e introduced after the word • . he etil done by the vote, to • . 1 I id come, upon the second le, that he 'Load fleece- I mon the proceedings. lie sit desired to be understood id, that her Majesty had too ,1011 whirls the protest roe- r s thrissAelerls, be eonsblenst well fotin.led. His earrogra- Newcastle) upon his newly 'Tv3, pen lasts. lint it he should complain 4.f -post forte law of violin:: port fite'o law th it could not see how any ✓ the Bill withoin heath' ?; nsistently with their honour. • uld reconcile it with thn it if such a nature. Butt th. y seir conduct, for which they a tiod and their own cuu- ,4. lefended the conduct of the • -. ommittee in voting upon the --- -The time tiering which the over~ Ships were deprived of the sum, was fifty-sis days. • f they discovered, while con- Melville Island, were two, Notwithstanding the dis- ly this dark and dreary re- kl we understand, is sangnino • t, unless eircunictaneet *err is, he should not fail t.. al.- .t of the long research tit the ope, a north-west passage to. o Bebristg•s Straits. ,wing Noblemen stiffs many ion, waited upon her Majesty :—The Duke of Norfolk. f Albemarle, Earl of Oxford, -stbo.s.----Our readers will re- s, the army button-maker in • 1 person through whose direct Jiary Franklin, alias Pletcher, • outraged laws of his clown ry. been for some years, oar of messed Taxes for the parish of • s ; and on Friday lam he at- se Board as usual. But at the ?as, one of the Commissioners I'l ve Magistrate) nose from bis addressing his brother ('om- it he had sat at that Beard for out be never toold consent to as Mr. Williams was one of its • . Commissioners immediately r hinted to Mr. Williams floe g• awing hisustlf, and Mr. Wil- up his hat in silence ander/the. r Obscroe'r" are testpeethdly an areidental and immediately tir"inking apparatus, teeny of • seers badly -printed, and pub- ban usual. Arrangemeuts are defect in n ieestioo, and to en- inn.--44.Amervar Office, Nov. .—Though it maybe a crime in lance from home. to couciftate sat poi'oniog .or picking loafs, ell knowii that even Cir• a'r hits. 1 ,re salutary precaution fee savieg king' and stealing, 1 has to he !" with officers of a rank mach. lain Bergami. It may . be 1111#0. the departure of the F r eeness of pilgrimage, one of her peewit with which she was veeetved at emeut. It happened that - the ` 1 ht proved* equally attraidita 4o ady arriving first, sad nocering ception from d a crowded and la- mtleman was, thus breathleesly ; rough the halsby„.by his friend • ti notoriety; " I sai i my Alaeter: treat do!" " Wls Ast be matter, if the Payee's attendants. Why 's *geing it pretty strange. i• can Regent-tribe " tensed ba ck." . at ittitte, like well-mannered cats, ling prostrate!" re frad.hiosters of Mt. 'snooped as having hero •neld dressing the Queen. tram prepa- ', at Freesmason's Hall That ay, and op very napetonslx and • • /4, 4; • - • • I