The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-05-16 00:00:00

• 1 • . b. ~—. • O A • 41;; . . . • '..4 % ...4• . . ~.. • .. 4 • , : estina , ~ . r ' 944 0 1 *4 ..i*' le . ;1 Z 4 • A. . ... tt i ' tfi_ r f • i . . I ... . 1 ~ t ,9 . 1 1"? ti. lif ac l: ..i, I . • S 4 \ , - t y; pribapa % LONDON, FRIDAY, MAY 16, 1823. < • r • " -•-: ,our. NUMBER 5673 " The Case for which HAMPDEN Jill is she Field, end tYDNRY died NI the SeffiWilt" - _ PRICE SEVICILt.PENCB. BAST INDIA HOUSE, May IS, 190. THE *Court of Direetors of the United Company of Merchants of Eaglata trading to the East ladies, do hereby give notice, That a General Court of the said Company, will be held at their House in Leadenhall-street, on Wednesday, Owlet!' instant, from nine o't.Jek in the morning, ohtil sl= in the efening, for the ELECTIOI4 of a DIRECTOR Of this Company, in the room of Joseph Cotton, Esquire, who halt disqualified. JOSEPH DART, Seeretaiy. Mr. RICARDO supported the neceisity of repealing these Laws, in order to secure to the public the benefit of a better article. Sir R. FERUUS.SON opposed the petitions. Ile ob• served that some of them were signed not by weavers,• but by cobblers, tailors, and coal•merchsnts. Mr. MABERLY said that the Bill against which these petitions were directed, was one of the most useful and judicious of soy that had ever been brought before the House. Many instal:en have oohed to my knowledge, and par tingled), sumo cues, in sr hinh iron collars and chains • have been added to their 'offerings aftersevere whipping. • The colonial law for the regulation of the slaves autho rises the corporal punishment ; but as there exists no authority for the use of thue iron torments, I have con sidered it my duty to cherk the use of them io every lb. itaoce which tomes to my knowledge : and it was my in• teution to have ordered prosecutions against some tomb. • viduals for this tllggal mode of punishing, at the last Seisions of Peace, on the 26th ultimo, butt was id - duced to fate. old deterinination,,in consequence of an assurance from betat beanclies of the Letislatitre, of a speedy revision of the Maus Laws, in compliance will. my message,..urgiog the abiolute necessity of the mea sure. Mr. MARRYATT said that nothing could be more ad. etetageous to the public, than that the price of linen should be ascertained by impartial persons, which might be most effectually done by the stamp. Mr. HUME contended that the practice of stamping was altogether unnecessary, in order to ascertain the value of the article: He bad not received one petition against the Bill from any of the five boroughs which be bad the honour to repsesent. Mr. HUSKISSON said, that all parties sight sill! stamp as much linen Malley *might proper; Nat best 4 • -. • prevented by up Ravishes: is tbsitlM. Sir. JOHN NEWPORT mid Mr. ALEX BAIUPki said a few words, after which the - several petitions were brought up, and ordered to lie on the table. Lord BELOB.AVE presented a petition from the kaba bitants of Chester against the Slave Trade.—Laid on the table. CONTRACTS FOR COALS AND CANDLES. Commissariat Department, Treasury Chamber., 9th May, 1923. `/UCH Person as ore desirous. of Casstractiog with the Agent for Commissariat Supplies, to furnish for twelvensontke,frons the 25th Jane ate, ruck quantities Cicala and Candks as may from time to time be requir ilir sundry Barracks and Mations in the andernsenti Comfits rd islands, may receive particulars of the Cob tract!, on applying at this Office between the hours o f gee asdloor - and to the respective Barrack Starters is So' Ithwests ei teh senesey, temp. iiirAaeraffh, and adiviirl their T mutat& (Oro, rltldims, vi,. r" Tenders for supplying Cogs, seated up, and marked— ". Tender for Coals,' unlit twelve o'dosk on Titesday the 3d June. Tenders for supplying Candles, sealed sip, and marked " Tender for Casidles," unlit twelve o'clock on Thursday, tide bth June ; bat Ito proposal, either for Coals or Can dles, will be noticed, unless m ade on, or annexed to, a printed particular, and the prices inserted is tweeds at length ; nor waters a Letter be subjoined to sack proposal from two persons of known property, engaging to become bound with the party tendering is the suns expressed in the partieslars, for the due performance of the contract. Tenders to be made for the several counties, and sepa rate Barracks and Stations is specified in the particulars of Contracts. lj tenders are sent by post the postage must be paid. COUNTIES, &c. Hants, Pembroke, Isle of Man, Isle of Wight, Somerset, Kent, Sorry, Lancaster, Sussex, Middlesex, Warwick, Norfolk, York, • Northumberland, North Britala, Northampton, Islands of Geerasey, Nottingham, Jersey,* Alderney. With reference to tile presentment of the Grand Jury on the Nth ult. the Court refused to receive it, consider • inc it ilildtairtinnkatk pf the 13reviace eif She Greed idrit Oa proeeeilag slf the Gruel Jury. t efiall not make.any eomitient ; but I take leave to 'satire your Lordship, that I hate net heard of aav aviation or discontext among Me negroes, except whit has arisen on seine yropertias from the tyrannical con duct of owners and managers, and an others from the deteriorated stale Vila land, and consequent poverty of the owners. The latter lamentable circumstance is be coming more evident every day. The Governor then adds the following— CAS Eel or NEGROES, who were brought to hint in chains , In Which they were obliged to work, by their Ciwners or . Managers, during the last three months. Ist.—A bow, about l years of age; a large iron chsi round his oat, fasteried with a padlock, total weighia; Its: Lord MILTON presented a petition to the some effect from the Inhabitants of liswtry. Yorkshire.—Laid on the table. .._ .__._. Mr. F. BUXTON presented, a similu petition from the Mayor and Aldermen of Poutefract.—Laid on the table. The Hon. MEMBER presented similar petitions from Braintree and Comeau% in Essex.—Laid on the table. Mr. W. COUHTENAY presented a petition to the same effect from certain Inhabitants of Exeter.—Laid on the table. 2d.—Two girls, of 12 years of age, much marked by the effects of the cut-whip; fastened together with iron chain.. roond their seeks, padlocked, weighing [Ribs. 3d.—A fitll-grown man, after a sclera flogging with t'.e cart-whip, loaded With an iron collir and chains, wcighia. 21 lbs. 4th —An old man, apparently 60 years of age, after hav ing been ly beaten by his master, was placed in CI, stocks, with an iron collar round his neck, and chair's, weighittic 20Ibs. Bth.—A boy about 12 years of age, looted with an iron collar, chains, and log of wood, weighing 26Ibs. What would the House think was the conduct of the Colonial Grand Jury?-- , Why, they presented bins as a nuisance,—(A laugb)—as appeared by a copy of the Grand Jury presentment, dated August 6; 1917, in which they said— Berk', Brrek obck, Chester, Corn Cumbrrtood, Devon, Donrt, Mr. It. COLBORNE presented a similar petition from the Inhabitants of the liorough of Theifurd —Laid on the table. Lord JOHN RUSSELL presented a similar peti tion from the Inhabitants of Huntingdon.—Laid on the table. Durham, Esser, Gloucester, Mr. TIERNEY presented a similar petition from the Inhabitants of Knaresborough.—Laid on the table. Lord CLIVE presented a similar petition from the Bankers and Meichants of Ludlow.—Laid on the table. Mr. A. BARI NU rose to present a petition from the Agents of the West India Colonies in this country, re questing the House to use great caution in proceeding on the subject which was to form the subject of debate th.tevening—namely, the Abolition of the Slave Trade. The agents stated, that their principals were every way disposed to ameliorate the condition of the Slaves to the utmost extent, but they deprecated any measure that would interfere with existing property. The petition was ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed. l'he CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER . gave notice that, on the 30th May, he should move for a vote fora New Building, to be added to the British Museum. Mr. HUSKISSON gave uotice that, on Friday next, he shield mo►e a Resolution, preparatory to a Bill, the object of which was to plate all goods imported in fo yelps skips we she same eqirattry with goods imported in British ships with respect to duty. Mr. W. >Jf 11• H couipladoed that certain papers which he bad moved for in July, 1821, relative to the West Indies and the Mauritius, bad not been laid before the House. Mr. WILMOT said he had given directions yester day to have them printed. Mr. J. SMITH moved for a Committee to inquire in to the State of the Law respecting (hoods intrusted to Agents or Factors. Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW supported the motion. Mr. MARRY4ITI' doubted the expediency of alter ing the Law as it now stood. The brokers themselves, and not the consignees, were the parties interested in the measure which was the object of the petition. He was of opinion that the making large advances on bills of lading was injurious to comnt.•rce. He was, how ever, satisfied that, if left in the hands or his Honour. able Friend who made the motion, nothing was to be apprehended; and he would not, for that reason, op pose it. Mr. SYKES said, that the impression on his mind was, that the law between principal and factor required alteration. There were, certainly, inconveniences on both sides, but the best way to reconcile those was, by going into the proposed Committee. Mr. ROBERTSON said, that the policy of this coun try, and all the exertions of tioverumeut, for the last three years, were directed to the great end of rendering England the great emporium of the world ; but he thought that nothing could be more opposed to those endeavours than the measure prayed for by the peti tions. The consignee ought not, because ne had no right, to raise money on the property consigned ; nor was any such thing ever intended by the consignor.— He was confident, if the proposition submitted to the House had been generally known, it would have met with the strongest opposition. The fact was, that on Monday last, a petition was presented by the Hon. Member, who after presenting it, gave notice of a mo tion for the following day fur leave to bring in a Bill. It was impossible, therefore, that the parties most in terested were not made sulliciently acquainted with the intended measure. CARPETS AND FLOORCLOTHS. CIEAPROI THAN EVER, AT THE •LD-EITAHLIIHIS *kat- HOUSE, Ile. LONG-REIM THE PROPRIETOR begs to return his best thanks to the Public and his Paella, fur the very liberal encouragement he hal received for the last IS years, and hopes for a continuance of their support; be has now to of fer to their inspection en assortment of the very best maaa lectured Goods, consisting of every description of Carpeting, Hearth - Rugs, Druggetts, Floorcloths, Slatting, Table Co vers, Carriage Rues, &c. which he is determined ►o sell ukon suds terms that shall meet their approbation. ' Travelling Bags at half-price. EFFLORESCENT OR IMPROVED EPSOM SALTS. IrilHE Medicinal qualities of which are precisely the 11. same as the Epsom Salts in crystals, but in this preparation (which is lathe form ofPowder),the disemeable Savour Li greatly obviated,. Walden which may the quantity is revolved for the dose. In ounce papers 3d. or to bottles at is. 6d. sad 2s 6d. Prepared and Sold by Butlers. Chemists, 4, Chespside, St. Paul's, 220, Regent-street, (near the Argyle Rooms,) London ; Waterloo Place, Edinburgh ; Saekville Street, Dublin; and sold hy the principal Druggists in the Kingdom. This preparation, if brought into general use, will prevent the possibility of accident by Oxalic Acid, which have been so frequent and fatal. •„• Be careful to ask for " BUTLER . . ETISLORSICRIT OR IlerßOsSO EPSOM SALTS." IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS.—TuuRsDAY. The Witness's Bill, the Irish Manufacturers' Bill, the Irish Excise Bill, and some private Bills, were brought up from the House of Commons, and read a first time. The Earl of DARNLEY wished to know front the Noble . Lord at the head of the Treasury, at. what time the Bill for the renewal of the Irish Insurrection Act was • likely to come before the Hnus•. The Earl of LIVERPOOL replied, that the business in question was at present before the other House of Par liament, and it was impossible for him to say on what day it should I e brought up to that House. 'f he Earl of FORTESCUE presented a petition from Higham Ferrets, praying for the Abolition of Slavery in the West Indies. _ Lord CALTHORPE presented a petition from Bir mingham, and another from Sherborne, in Gloucester shire, to the same effect. On the motion of the Marquessof LANSDOWNE, the lii‘h Charitable Loan Bill was ordered to be read a third time t."-morrow. _ Lord MUFF' ELD presented a petition from the City of Norwich, praying for the Abolition of Slavery, and another front ihe• same place against the Insolvent Debt ors Art. • The Union Duties' Bill, the Belfast Gas Bill, the Dub lin tias Bill, and the Liverpool (bas Bill were read a !bird time and passed. A*lammed. Mr. JOHN SMITH said that in consequence of there being no House ou Tuesday, the motion of which lie had given notice, fell to the ground. All he at present ask ed was, an inquiry by a Committee of that House into what was considered by many persons a source of great fraud and injustice. The motion was then agreed to, and the Committee named. CRIMINAL LAWS. Str JAMES MACKINTOSH said he availed himself of the present opportunity of giving notice, that in conse- quence of the further prosecution of the Inquiry into the Conduct of the Sheriff of Dublin, having been fixed for Wednesday next, he would postpone his motion on the Criminal Laws to Thursday, when he would certainly bring it forward. HOUSE OF COMMONS—TBUISDAT. SLAVERY. NITA. CAMPBELL presented a petition. Petitions were. presented from Durham, Prome, With aai,Borough of Bridpurt, Belfast, Olney, tiloueester, Loughhorougb, Dudley, Worcester, Norwich, Waltham stow, Mansfield, Maryport, Wigton, Dtiaer, Market Drayton, Borough of Drat Yarmouth, Swansea, Bristol, the Boroogh of Ayr, Caine, Bath and Liverpool, praying fur the Abolition of Stavery.---Ordered to be printed. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' ACT. Mr. SCARLETT presented a petition front the Bo rough of ftridport against the Insolvent Debtors' Act.— Ordered to be printed. Mr. W.SM I presented a similar petition from Nor. adds.—Ordered to be printed. DUTY ON COALS. Mr. W. SMITH presented a petition from the same place, against the Duty on Coals carried Coastwise.— Laidon the table. Mr. WHITBREAD presented a petition from Up.• borough, against the Duty on Coals.—Laid on the table. Set E. HARVEY presented a petition from Chelms ford, praying for the establishment of a Court for the ecovery of Sniall Debts.—Ordered to be printed. A @minter-petition was presented from Bristol against the Abolition of Slavery, stating that the real sentiments of the Merchants and Tradesmen were not contained in the petition in favour of its Abolition.—Ordered to be printed. • LINEN TRADE OF SCOTLAND. Mr. LINDSAY presented nine petitions from Scot. I .l4 . 4ainst a repeal of the Linen Laws. , EMANCIPATION OF NEGRO SLAVES. Mr. POWELL BUXTON said that he was sure most, if nut all, Gentlemen in the House were prepared to ask him a question. He could not do better, therefore, than answer their question ti* limine, and by anticipating, satisfy their curiosity. The question he meant vas this, anti it ►night be fairly put to nita—What right have you to interfere in this great cause, or to take on yourself the advocacy of it? Is not there on the bench near you, a man, who has spent his life in vindicating the rights of oppressed honianity, one to whom the nation has been taught to look up to on the subject of slavery, and who is universally acknowledged to possess great talents? To propose such questions was reasonable enough, but he hoped no one would charge him with encroaching on the province of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Wilberforce). So far from that, he begged to assure the House that it was ! , v • I thei permission —indeed by the desire, of his Hon. Friend that he consented to introduce the subject. l -(llear, hear.) also felt it his duty to take some notice of the advice which he had that evening received with respect to the evils that in the opinion of soma 'Jerson, were likely to result to the people of the West I odierfrom the agitation of this question. He agreed with his Hon. Friend who suggested that advice, that it was no slight or silly matter tes agitate any question, the discussion of which might asteite apprehensions in the minds of a class of persons so respectable as those whO signed the petition that was that night presented.' He professed—indeed he declared, that be had no prejudices ageing any persons who were con nected with the West India Colonies. He only thought that they were unfortunate, so tar as that their pre clusion's bad invested their property in a business, and in a speculation which at that time certainly bad the appearance of being right, and was generally allosiad to be legitimate, big which be boldly contended srin the present times *wed it hive beta iittri i eoktent with right principles.—(flea s r,. hear.) Bet it was not his ohjeet to introduce any. questioe, or to propose any measure which could by passibility have atiy injurious effects on the interests of those Gentlemen, hut it was his duty—the duty of all, to remote from oar Colonies those oppressive and inhuman practices which entailed misery on man, and reflected disgrace oh this country.—(Hear, bear.) As to the re sponsibility ikhich would attach to a person proposing so unpsrtaut a measure as he mearit to submit, he never should shrink from that. Feeling, as he did, that he hail right on his side; feeling, is he did, that he had a good cause ; feeling, as he felt, that this was the proper time; feeling also as he felt, a total freedom from any psejudice against those who complained that their interests acre in volved in this question, he would dare to incur every kind of responsibility. He would tell the House why he was willing to incur that responsibility. In the first place; he was impressed with a conviction, that if the dangers apprehended from his proposition were nut quite ground less, they were certainly greatly overrated.—(Hear, bear.) Secondly, he was equally convinced that it was impossible to estimate the advantages that would arise to millions yet unborn from its success. In every view of the sub ject he came to the conclusion that slavery was untenable in principle. He thought that the continuance of it was pregnant with dangers.—dangers far greater than those than its advocates, or rather his opponent., bad any grounds for apprehending from a proposal for its abo lition, lf, indeed, he were to act precipitately sad rashly —if he were the first man, or if this were the first time that Emancipation from Slavery was mentioned in that House, there might be some apparent and colourable cause for the apprehension of danger. Bat this subject of negro slavery and emancipation from it were discussed repeatedly during the last half century. It was now thirty years since a Committee of the House sat on this subject and took evidence on it. That evidence they pub lished to the world. In the House of Lords also a Com mittee sat, took evidence and pnblished it, and a Com mittee of the Privy Council did the very same thing.— But it had more weight and consideration with him that no great man had, during tlae same period. sat io that House, who did not pot forth his opinions in favour of the emancipation of those uegroes. Among those was .314dlizeseoriew serewgly deetiOect his opinions on that question. Sir Samuel Rowdily also was favourable ;so were Mr. Whitbread, and Mr. Sheridan with Mr. Dundas and others—men of different talents certainly, but all agreeing on that question. To those he might add Mr. Burke, Lord Grenville, Mr. Pitt, and Mr.Windhaw; all of whom agreed in opinion that no danger could result from proposing the emancipation of those negrocs. Mr. Dun dee and Mr. Burke were at one period of an adverse opi nion, but they afterwards changed their minds, and one of them introduced a Bill into that House, which, if then carried, would long ago paved the way for the complete freedom from slavery. In defiance of all those warnings and admonitions which he received, he would say that he would be betraying the cause, if he did not bring for ward some proposition after the example of those great men whom be had just mentioned. It could not but be a matter of some surprise that no motion was ever made in that House relating to negro slaves, that the same unfavourable predictions were not made, and petitions pre sented similar to that which was received that night. in 1787, when a feeble attempt was made in Parliament to have the slave vessels made more commodious, end to admit a little more air within the holds of the chips, petitions were presented to both Houses. In the House of Lords the Duke of Chandos supported those petitions, and told their Lord ships that he might be allowed to know more of that subject than they did, for he had a pocket full of letters which lie had received from persons in the Colonies. On the authority of these letters, and from his own knowledge, the Noble Duke added that as soots as their Lordships entertained a propo sition on the subject of slavery, the negroes would, at that moment, burst into ah open rebellion. Yet the question was entertained, and the prediction was not verified. Since 1787, when his Hon. Friend (Alr. Wilberforce) engaged in that cause, for twenty successive years those several predic tions of a rising among the black population of our colonies were continued, and were as often falsified. If the history of facts were put on one side, and the 'prediction of events put on the other, the latter was completely refuted. The facts that actually occurred were the very reverse of what was predicted, and, instead of being marked with blood, those times were distinguished by tranquillity and peace un exampled. At another period we became carriers of slaves to other nations. His Hon. Friend thought that as criminal as engaging directly in the trade, and he consequently brought in a Bill to stop it. The Colonial proprietors im mediately took the alarm, end. through their agent in this country, declared that the West Indies would be all un in a rebellion, In ISOB, Lord Seaforth, the Governor of the Island of Barbadoes, discovered a series of most horriole murders, committed on the Negro slaves in that colony. He did not intend to go into a detail of those a bominaale atrocities; his lion. Friend knew that there never was any thing more horrid than those murders committed at that time in the colony he mentioned. But what was done? The parties were tried by order of the Governor, and, being found guilty, lie imposed on each a penalty less than that which a man, who killed only a partridge In this country, was obliged to suffer. They were condemned to a tine of 111. 4s. per head.—(Hear, hear.) His Honourable Friend immediately proposed a law, which was to make toe killing of a Negro slave a capital offence. The cry was hannedi ately raised, that, by the introduction of such a law, an ie sensation would be the immediate consequences, and the Bill was accordingly defeated by the Colonial tiovernment.' The next prediction to which he would allude was in IRA. His attention was called to it within the last few minutes.' by the similarity of the language then used to that which the House beard that evening. In looking to the petition then presented, he found that the principal difference in the word. lug was, slave trade in the one for slavery in the other. Here the Hon. Member read the petition of 1804. which stated that, " if ever any danger were to arise from the sl.mes, it would be only after the dereliction of the slave trade by Great Britain." He had read that petition in an ticipation of the speeches of his opponents, who would come to the same conclusion. In another part of it, the pkition said that " all interference with slaves was the result of the experience of fanatics and visionary men"—he cairt the very words of an Honourable Member.—'A laugh.)— , Ile wished to trouble the riouse with one snore of those predictions, and that was on the 8c1 ; of September, 1817. Mr. Slaxwell. Governor of Dominica, states, in a le:ter to ; Lord Bathurst. The Grand Jury lament that then are under the neces sity of noticing an improper interference, on the part of the Executive, between master aud slave, which has caused considerable agitation and discostent among the neyroes, and if persevered in, is likely to lead to the most ruinous consequences. If the Jury said that the severity of the masters caused the difference between them and their slaves, and pro duced discontent among the latter, it would be probable enough ; but when they say that it was among their pri 'lieges to whip and flog them, and then add that they would rise in rebellion if any change was tobe made, lie could not agree with them. He could net see how the measures he, meant to propose could hays the effect that. was feared. One of his propositions was; that the Ne gro should have the Sunday—one day in the seven—free for rest; and that he should have another day in the week to himself for cultivating his provision ground.— Another of his propositions would be, that the children of Negroes should not be sold in slavery. He contended that nothing could content the parent Negroes so much as the assurance that their children would be free, and might be educated. We should remove the cart whip. His object was, to ameliorate the condition of the Negro, to improve his state, and to _give him the pro tection due to a British subjtct.—(Hear, hear.)—He was for giving bim the prospect, that if he worked well he could bay out his own freedom, and for giving him the cheering hope that his children at least, would be free. He could not see how those acts of justice small produce any discontent among the Negroes. He was convinced they would secure, and not endanger the pros perity of the Colonies. There was one point" which he could not, and ought not pass over, because it required the serious cansiueration of those connected with the West India Colonies, and of his Majesty's Ministers. A great change bad occurred in the West Indies. The peo ple of those Colonies could not fail to see the great chance that took place in a neighbourink island (St: Domingt ,) where men, women, and children—to the amount, he believe& of Beo,ooo, were in the enjoyment of, and folly exercising, all the faculties of free p mple. How they obtained it, whether by right or wrong, he • (Mr. B) would not say ; but they were in possession of their freedom, and the inhabitants of our colonies could not but notice it. Possibly the island of Jamaica might attract the notice of some State or Emperor, who would find it convenient to make an encroachment there. The United States of America . following our own example, might send an army there. He would ask the House if some lesson might not be learned from these circumstances. Were we to grind down the negro, or raise him by giving him his rights? He had one authority in support et his reasoning. It was the authority of Mr. Pia, who said it was impossi ble to increase the freedom of the negroes without ad ding thereby to the security of the colonies. lie was sure that there was great peril in the present circum stances of the West India proprietors, because wherever there was slavery there also was danger. But the surest way to avoid those perils would be by doing justice to those from whom otherwise danger was to be appre hended. But suppose there WfB danger in the proceed ing he was rectimmending, as well as in doing nothing but leaving matters as they were, he would ash whether it was net better, as well as more glorious, to iocar danger by granting frredom to the negroes than by con firming their slavery, and thereby overturning the hap piness of those on whom we had showered down every species of misfortune? He wished to state frankly, and without reserve, what he int-ndel to propose. His ob• jeer was the extinction of slavery in the whale of the British dominions. He dill not mean a sudden and im mediate einancipatiombut a preparation which would lead to and insure a gradual anti slow termination to slaveiy. He did not desire any thing rash or rapid ; if ever be suc ceeded to the fullest extent of his ardent wishes—and he confessed he was ardent in that cause—be should still be unable to say in what year he expected slaveiy woold te. totally abolished. All he desired was a gradual ext;nc tion—that it might decline, die away by degrees, sink and be forgotten. He did not mean to Cu* off rapidly* and forcibly abolish. He entreated gentlemen !Des:amine his meaning and his principle, which was that no mare • children should be made ad ves,and that the number ought decline by degrees. At pres, at there %vs's' certain nun!. her; in ten years that number would'be co asiderably abated by death,, no new slaves rising up to s leered the* I o twenty years he number would be still farther reduced, - and would be confined ta a few decrepit and exhausted old slaves, and so on till at length slavery would entirety go out and be forgotten. He woald show the House that these propositions were not founded on theo re, thst th e . were no specalatisms nor new lights, as as lion. (Iznik T .I I