The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-03-17 00:00:00

.---- -- , for there were carious persons in civil situations who were not4wmhers of the Estrbliahed Church. If such a priattiple was to be adopted, our Constitution was the iltiostitution of Tiles Oates, and not of a .. . just law giver. The Hon. Member for Corte Castle hail laid it down, that no politiCal power should he siren to any men who were likely to feel a desire to abolish any of our institutions ; but this prin eiple would go to proscribe even Protestants in every ! country on the Continent of Europe. The Hon.' Vendettas!' or his principles should go ores to France, : tiooria, and Prussia, to overturn all their systems of Leairlation on this sithjeet. But, unfortnnately. the lion. Gentleman waa alines lank rears too late al ith his argument, and therefore his arguments were wore chronological than theological. Hut the ex remve of two centuries showed that the only way 1. 1 - which nation, prospered was by allots ing a ge seral toleration to all modes of religious worship. it— oppc!ins. sued' a principle at. this, one half of Fst!..; e had been !kluged in blond, while by a ' ient TM principle, the greatest tleorce of min e:lo;oe and lisppiness hail been established.—(llear, near )—The Honourable Gentleman premed to think, t!i :t the stability of the Church depended on a divided .14.nioistratiot , ; or in other woods, on the weakness of the Goser.illetilt, whereas there never was any other swirlet of tea iquillity or security in any other country than the strength of the government. The security cf tSe I: •ta blished Church of Ireland depended on the 4"..l'ilifl. of the Government, and that stability de rods., on the satisfaction and tranqnillity of the peo )ae Toe hest great and wise concession that had been made in favour of religions toleration, was the edict of :....ititz, passed by that wisest and most virtuous of Monarchs, who by that admirable law, healed the bleedinz weunds of his country. Then Henry IV. i: , ,.1 111: , 11 t 1,141, that by doing Vila art, lie was en o..;,gering the aafsty of his country ; but he and his I::' , at I'IrttIOUS Ministers rejected siii li detestable ad al's, and the happy results proved this jesii. e and the wisdom of the monolg'. Now be Area if any man could say, that it would be a worse measure to declare by law the Deice of Norfolk, the desarnilant of him n'ao was the con.luertir of Aginctoirt. was not fit to sit ' loss'als the ciolueior of Waterloo in the flouse of Peers? (C:ies of hear ) Was it fit that the ileseetidants of those who were the founders of the English Constitution, should partake of none of its benefits ? Ile con tended that there never sta. a question, nit!' the exception of the slave Trade, as rich could boast of such a huh of authorities as the Catholic Qorstiun. Ile in- Cauced Sir Henry Vane, who, tor his liberal milkmen's towards them, was eulogized in a sonnet by Milton, Or. Jeremy Taylor, Bishop of Down, aud se •veral others who advocated liberality towards the Ho uma Catholics. Was it to be auppoacd that a measure which had ibe concurrence of midi a galaxy of talent, irons the first splendid dawnings of Hu rlic to his latest tionneuts— from the first Hill of Sir George Saville to the last of his Right Honourable Friend, near him—a concurrence of men nut rivalled ice any State—men a4reeing on this head, though dissimilar in their talent, pursuits and ambition—was it to be supposed that a era lens of fallacy or deception could have so long existed. He was glad to see his Honourable and Hindi respected Pend. the member for Brandies (11r. 11' ill ao ror s s) take b . :apiece amongst kindred spirit.., ansi 1 se hope.{ that the share which he would have in ail omplishing the triumph 81 ibis great question, would not be the least prominent of the great and noble actions which bail dignified lila useful life.—(Bear.) Mr. PEEL in reply to the arguments of Sir J. Mackintosh and others, made a speech 01 some length, which our * limits compel as to omit, and concluded by diselaintiog any thing like personal feelings in his op position, declaring that if the House in its wisdom passed It into a law, his great sins would be to recon cile the Protestants to it.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. CA:iNING rose, under feelings of greater anxiety than he ever before experinceil, from the great mid growitoj eepediency of the measure and other cir cumstances. He congratulated the lion. Gentlemen who Baal preceded him on both sides of the House, oil that temper which had been displayed, and which tot cud se much hbnour on them. Ile trusted that, in the beat of debate, should be himself he betrayed i 4to any warmth o f expression, that his Hon. Friends would not feel offended. Amongst the many facilities that oiered far conciliating our Catholic countrymen, a new nisi) and an untried Parliament were brilliant I: ' 111 iliStitnC.”.. The magnitude of the issue filled him with more horror than the difficulty of the discussion. I was most true, as stated by the Hon. Member for Erawber, (Mr. Wilberforce) that it was not the laws theuiselves which formed the grievance—it was the im putation it Lich they cutiveyed—giving poignancy to the, teelings of the itowan Catholics. For two centuries 'hoar lama had been growing—for half a century they hail b tell declining. 'lke space on the summit of the 'tmtit was only twenty years, two centuries had contri buted to their perfection. The argument against the smeation now was if the Spiritual connection as ith a foreign state was the only one.—(Hear, hear.) -011 the contrary a connexion of a total different nature funned the ground of the enactment of the Penal Laws. The How Gentleman here catered into an history of the Penal Law,: awl a recapitulation of their enactments. it was idle to tell hint to look to the laws as they now Mood, without reference to the progress of the dissen tious by which they had been engendered, the recol• lections with which they were associated, and the shame by which they were stained. It was necessary' to describe Papists. Why ? because it was necessary to designate in some way or other, men suspected of %sing attached to the exiled family, and who wis h ed to restore that family to the daunts In order to de t •ct Papists, their religious creed was described.— Why? because their guilt consisted in their creed ? We., but because their creed designated the men whose guilt consisted in their foreign attachments.—(llear, bear.)--lt was needless to say that these attachments could no longer exist, for the object of them was no snore; but still the doctrine of transubstantiation was the object of vindictive jealousy. This reminded hini of the conduct of an active Magistrate. who having re ceived information that a man who wore spectacles and a wig had committed a murder, detected an individual distinguished by those appendages; but it having been afterwards ascertained that no murder had been com mitted, he still would not relinquish his man, but per sisted that the spectacles and wig were conclusive evi neace of the murder.—(Loud laughter.)—Thus it was contended that transubstantiation was not only a mark to detect by, but • crime to punish. The earliest dawn of the Reformation. to which mankind were indebted for so many blessings, would be found, like all great mu tations in the affairs of the world, to be tinged with vio lence, injustice, and mutual persecution. Out of that coallict of opinions, God be thanked. the Reformed Church of England hod come nut triumphant. When it was recollected that the mild M.13,11411°0 rocommonilwl his wife to adhere to the old religion. rather than dis 7 4 STATESMAN. -T, tract lict srlf itli controet rse, when it was recollected how tnatly tecislrnts, how ma ny cireumttances of varion s character load contributed to produce the runintnneation of the great Messing of the Reformation, we shonld • I pause hen.' e we carried a feeling of political or relig ions seal so far as to consider the Roman Catholic a tit object of toinisloAcnt. The reli;ions fervour of Ilenry leas sof- i teucol and solidoted by the influence of a softer passion— ror lost- roolol tench a Monarch to be wise. An. 11101% light first dau ;led from Boleln's eyes. It was to 'liked nook es like these that the origin and proArcss of Protestantism oo as to hr traced. The reign of glirthetli was glorious .o this country for her foreign and dionestic police, but ss hatever might he the lus tre a Ith li she derived loom this source, her's was, un doulne,:iy, not the reign of civil or religions liberty. Look ar the latter part of the Ilion of James I. mid the Catholic co mold Ise (Howl to be stripped of all the at tributes, del u ded of all the fat okies of social man, bereft of all the comforts of !lonic, and the affections of the coun try. In the reigm suli,e(iii , nt to that of .1:onc!. 1., wai there any thing in the: cominct of the Roman Catholics to induce the belief that their religion wit hostile to the claims of the State? In the reign of t liat!cs 1., was it the Papists who overtorned th e t ormaecliv iod the religion of the Roman Catholics bring tha . t Monarch to the block ? Was there any thing in tour history which justified the iiiipotation of an irrecosocileable difference between the principles of the (fatholir religion and Me narchical ilistitoit ions? It loadlweb contended intim course of this debate, that it Wa% Mom/sail& that a Roman Ca tholic could enter oiir political establishment without en , tertaing a de-i re of overturning the ecclesiastical partof it That a large class; of the population of the empire, who fur two centuries had been suffering nndrr the de , ~,, r fadation of the law is iris patiruce and trooper, should all the while hat e hern like Brutus assuming a want of feeltiL., in order afterwards noire securely to dart on their wry, and that they should wait for the paseiu^ fif till. Bill before tl.ey attempted to satiate their reveloge, was b:1 extravagant a sap : position, that in,thing but the stillest and taunt irrational fears could for a .ent couuteuance , it. Let thr House consider how long the Catholics •-•- had endured the more severe of their disabilities. For two centuries a I of separatiosti had existed, not to assist stature, but to thwart leer. It rose high above the waters, ant frowned defiance around. At length this nearly broken down, there still re• mauled a portion of it between two kindred sifias, whirls, viewed each either from afar, and lidera' to meet. Ought we to endeavour to restore to its original strength this bank of separation ? Or ought we nut rather at once to cut it down, and to Boat on the mingled waves the ark of our munition constitution ? (Hear, beer.) — How unreasonable were they who expected the Catholics to love a Constitoolon, the benefits of which they were. not sadden sal to partake ? To us that Constitution war positive ;Ind at Tie them it exhibited nothing that was not negative awl repulsive. And vet the Catholics were expelled to ovrtdnw in affection for it! The way in which the Catholics hail been treated was such that they might justly apply to or the well-knotvis lines, When late t attempterl your pity to move, Yoni tinned a dear ear to my prayers; Perhaps }or' were right to dis,risiber yonr love, Rut nit, dial d on 1.41 me down stain '•• laugh.)—the question was, whether Parliament would not stop short of what they ought to /ha, if they slopped shot ufgiving the f 'at hi; lks all the henefits of the Codosidering the present Bill as a final ailjois!oileut on the subject, he would consider the floe Catholics from oar I Wiversities and from oor Spiritual Court, as a natural and permanent exclusion. lint with the.Ar exceptions, what was to be feared (torn admitting the Catholics to altars' in mw fri valrges? What was to he feared from seeing them in that House? Was it the introduction of dernagrogoes that was apprehended Ile was rose ot those who re joked to arse a demagogue brought into that House; for he had never known a demagogue in that House who did not in the course of six months, after be bad taken his seat, shrink to his natural dinworions ; and lie trusted that, if any restem of Parliainentary Reform should he carried into effect, care would be taken to leave a little nest of boroeglis for ileinagogner, to which they should become entitled by making' a speech in Palm-elan'. It was not in that Bruise float lee bad any fear of dews- Rogues. They might e 000 se there mid do their worst. The present was a most tilting period at which to settle this great question. We were now enjoying a peace purchased, in a great degree, by Irish vaiour, on a field watered by Catholic Mood. 11 e were now enjoying a peace which, whatever might be the threatening aspect of the world, would, he trusted, be permanent. lint in such a season, it behoved ns to strengthen °unwise, that we might be !prepared for any event. To him it was iu different where the Temple of Concord was built, or by whom the offerings were made on its altar. Such a boon as that which he trusted they were now about to bestow, like " the gentle dew fmnilicaven," would bless equally the giver anti the receiver. It was ronferred, and it would be received, in the spirit in which it ought to be conferred and received. The results were not to be contemplated ; but in proportion as we discharged the duty of skilful and liberal hushatiehnen. might we expect a rich and abundant harvest.—(The Right Ike noirrahle lientleuratt's speech was followed by entlieri astic ►*beers froin all parts of the lloure4—tbe House then divided— For the Amendment :113—Against it 234-llajority in favor of the Bill I I. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed on 3londay. Adjourned at hall-past three this morning to this day INSUItiIACTION OF THE PIEDMONTESE. P %Ins, M turn 1.1: 5 p. m.—" The mail has left Paris, hut the intelligence I have just received, from the hest authority, is of so derisive a character, that I lose not a moment in conveying it to von by an express. The die is cast—the fate of the Austrian army is sealed ! A tele graphic despatch has been received by the Government announcing that the whole of the Piedmontese troops have risen, and have demanded a free representative constitution, requiring at the same time that they should be allowed to inareli against the Austrians. From the necessary conciseness and obscurity of a telegraphic Iletpat rl I cannot distinctly collect whether cum pliauee has been refused to the first or the second clause of the demand of the Piedinotitese sot 'fiery. It is imagined that a disposition was sliewn to conrede the free constitution, but that a peremptory denial has been opposed to the desire testi fied of avenging the cause of Naples, by direct hostili ties against the Austrians. It is concluded, however, that the reply of the Sardinian Government had not proved satisfaetory, for the despatch distinctly states that the Piediumitese artily, to the number of .141.1410 men. bail mar. bed. Prince Cariguana was scut after them to endeavour to bring them back to their duty, but with little hopes of success. The accounts con clude wills these remarkable words—" All Italy is in a flame." THE QUEEN. The following is" An Account nf all Monies expend ed lunching and• proceedings had respecting her Ma jesty the Queen, front the veer ISI 7 to the prescut time." It was presented to the House of Lords, and or dered to be printed on the 111th inst. ius or I futkur. The total sum sipplied otit of the Secret Set- S. s. d. tier Money, from the commencement of the Pro ceedings. is. The total sum issued to Mr. Mauls, the So licitor of the Treiooiry nut of the Grant of Par liament for Civil Contingencies, for the expense of the proceedings, is The total sum issued to Mr. Tizard. her Ma jesty's Sufic tor, out of the Grant of Parliament for satisfying certain charges upon the Conso lidated Fund, or Civil List. for the expense of those proceedings. i 5.... To 111$ Nlajesty's Great Chamberlain (I.aay Willoughby de Fresby, acting by her Deputy, I D. W. Fellowes. Esq.) out of the said Grant for Civil Contingencies, for extraordinary ex pences incurred by him on This occasion 2,260 0 0 To Sir Robert Maker, Chief Magistrate of the Row-street Police and Horse Patrole,) out of the said Grant for Civil Contingencies, to nrds the extra expenses of preserving the peace during those proceedings 3,103 10 0 Whitehall Treasury Chambers. '129434 3 0 Feb lb, Wel. (higned) R. LUNRINGTON. A rumour is afloat to-day, that twelve or fourteen sail of the line are to be fitted out from our ports for the Mediterranean service. We give it as a sample of the reports that will he current at such an interesting crisis, without attaching to it any degree of credit. IVEAPOUTAIV AFFAIRS. NATIONAL PARLIAMENT EXTRAORDINARY. sirs iNt; OF FEB. n.--PIGNOR i. GALDI, rirESIDEN'T. Mr process verbal of the last sitting was read and approved. A request was read front the Prince of Molitorno, who desires to assist in the defence of the country as a pri vate soldier, (referred to the War Minister.) Another from D. Ansehno Adorno, who offers to furnish an armed titan at his expense, and to maintain hint during the war. The Minister for Foreign Minks gives an arrount of a couferenre with the French Charge d'Affaires, by whom hr lots been infortnei that that government It ill observe the strictest neutrality. Ile likewise communi cates the tremor of the British Circular to the Ministers abroad. Lastly, he rommitirieates the request of the English liener...l, Sir Robert Wilson, who offers his ser vices to our country, whenever it shall he attacked by Austria. Ile is ready to fly to our succour at the lirat I invitation. Some deputies observed, that not being a citizen, he could not hare a superior command. The Secretary de Luca.—" Let the rights of citizen ship (nazionalita) be given to him." The Fresitleat.—“And let the decree of the Parliament be heist him by means of our Minister at London, in or der to testify to the illustrious General the gratitude of the station of the two Sicilies."—(Approved.) Signor tie Filipi.--•• let this decree be circulated in England. In that free country there are many generous and sensible minds who may imitate the example of their brave fellow countryman." Signor lierelli.—" In the War-ofbee there is an offer of 2,000 English volunteers : it shoold he examined," Signor N e tti,e." Otte nation has displayed its energy. and its firm and heroic character; but it is advisrable to unite with some power, the better to ensure the triumph of our cause. The English nation might be very advan tageous In it. lief ns attach ourselves to it by a treaty of commerce."--(l4',lnsico della Vostittaiume, Fab. '2l;, 1e21.) The French courier that arrived yesterday was ad dressed to the Government, and out to the French. Charge d'Allairs i M. de Fontenoy ; lee performed his jonrney 9 lbws, and is the hearer of despatches such as might be expected from a Constitutional Government like that of France, i. e. the formal disapprobation of the conduct of its representatives at the Congress of Laybach.—L'ht• I depenriesste. ••• Is consequence of the numerous applications for the Nketeh of the Variations in Ike Gold Coinage of Rny land. which appeared in our paper of Saturday Inst. there ill be published in The Statesman of Monday next (when the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer on the cir culating medium n ill come tinder discitssion). a more ex teusive Titbit. of the Alterations that hate taken place in Ilia nietaliic currency of this kittgihon ; containing, irolerendetit of the ration , and useful information pre sented in tlw Sketch. an .teroant gi the Dertees of tAr primeipal Gold Coins, and of the admlterationsflast hare been made in the standard of Siker Money. front the Comasseo to the present .To this Table will hr added an Historical N . iew of the Coinage of England, with appro priate illustrations and remarks. PRICE or NTOt KS TI II Hunk Stock 3 per Cent. I cd. shut. $ per Cong. Con. 721 If 31 per Cent. shut 4 pi r Cents. shut. 3 per Ct• :Sas y 113411 A per Cent. Lund Ann. shut Imp. 3 per Cent. Irish 3 per Cent. ----- • DAY VT OM trulmc! India Stock nano Ronda —s. Mls. pm. South-Sca Stnrk Ex SHIVA. .Is. pin. t)rnninro for Mom y - pin Molls for lecomit India for alit° Con. for Acrt 721/11 71 Lott. Tickets WI. Itis. LONDON: SATCRDAT MAKUH 17, 1421. STOCK-EXCILINGE, One o'llork. The Fowls were very heavy yesterday afternoon, l'onsols for the Account were dune at 12g. large bargains having been done so. This morn ing they opened at 721, which has been the price daring the morning. This has been owing to the intclligenee received from Naples, and the fall in the French Funds, which are said this morning to have dim to t4Ol. ,piled The arrival of the French Mail this morning, bring ing Paris papers of the 14th, the arrival also of an ex- 1 press, excited a great deal of bustle in the Stuck Ex change, owing to the information being received, that the Austrians were on the point of being taken in the rear by a large body of Piedwontese. It is also stated that Tuscany has declared in favourof the Neapolitans. The French Funds have fallen above two per cent. On the 13th, the five per cents. were $3l. 50c. ; they are now elf. They bare been offered to-day, on 'Change, at ROL but no one will take them. The latest intelligence from Liybach, annonnces that Congress has broken up. Ihe King of Naples was preparing to quit the two Emperors on the 2d or - - 3d inst. and to take the route of Flo , ence. It is said to be his intention to follow the movement of the Aus trian army, sod to re-enter his kingdom by the Abruzzi. The voyage to Italy is abandoned. The two Emperors are shortly expected at Vienna. It is supposed that when the Sovereigns leave Lay Lads, the Prince de Sletternich will repair to Vei thence to Bologna. Ile acrompanied several Ministers. The negotiations rearming the Italian Confederation are expected to take place at Bolog na. Accounts have been received from Madrid, tl a t i d March 6 :—When the Ministers ti ere dismissed, his jesty applied to the. Cortes, desiring them to point s ot persons capable of exercising the funt.tions of Ministers. The tortes deliberated on this proosal, and declared that the Cortes bring a representative and not a con. sultative holly, such a proposal mild not he entert a i n& The King then desired his Co u ncil of State to pr esent to him a list of candidates, that is to 1,:!y, three fur earl, department, which the Council 'lid, and bit Majesty h a , chose the Ministers from among these candidates, namely— Foe Fouttetc A ITAIRP.—M. RusehinA Rardair y Aran), now Envoy and 51ini s t er Pl enipo. tentiary to the Conti of France. Fon rue FINANeus.—M. Antonio B a r a t a , one of rae wawa:Tr:l.4 the public debt. FOR THE DKVARTMENT OF GRACE AND JrsTtcz._n Vincent l'auo Manuel, member of the supreme t r ib una! of justice. ton rue I~reator ..- 11. Veltieniora, honour ? CO3O. Fun THE M VI IN L.-M. Escuicro, ex•secrelart le the Board of Admiralty. F os Tim WA It DETARTMEN T• — Lieutenant-Genp ri ! Thomas Moreno Dania, at resold, tiovcrsorli thw 4 of Andalusia. In the sitting of the Cortes on the 4th, 31 . R omen Alpuente expressed a wish to be informed ht• the Miui• ter for Foreign Affairs, ghat had lwroine of the 110 i: Alliance, if it existed ? w hat %Vali its object, or, at Iraq;, its intentions as regarded Spain. and what engagement, it had made with other nations with respect to tem ing the Kingdom of Naples at peace ? h o w it was dir posed towards Portugal, relatively to the political sys tem of that country, and to the manner in which it had been treated by its King, by England, and by the other Powers ? The Deputy Quiroga addressed the fortes apes framing an answer to the King's speech. Count Tomtit, proposed that the answer should only refer is so much of his Majesty's speech as had been signed and agreed to by the King and his Council, taking no notice of that which had been added by his 3lsjesty. —Agreed to. M. Alpieete proposed that the present and the ex. toialbters should repair to Congress.—Agreed to. The news we yesterday communicated respecting. the revolt of the army of Piedmont appears to hare received confirmation by another express. As instances of the credit which the intelligence obtains, we guy refer to the English as ti ell as to the French funds On the Stock Exchange, we learn, there was, this morning, a general gloom ; and one of the sellers was a great BO!, and not a Jew. We wait with great anxiety the arrival of the next mail, and doubt au we shall have to state the spread of the caw tagion among the Italian States. It will, laced, he miraculous if Lombardy and Veuite tca.ain quiet, under their accumulated suffering from Austria oppression and pillage. As to the general spirit at Turin and throughout Piedmont, we may safely cal culate on its speedy developenient. Our private cor respondent ut Paris, informed us several days ago. that there was a strung party both amongst the people and the military, extremely desirous of bringing shoot a change in the policy of Victor Emanuel, and that if I he persisted in his present courses, they would Dot he sitate to appeal to his brother, the Prince of Carig , nana, who is brother-in-law to the Prince Vicar ieneral of Naples, whose patrotic sentiments are Gat orahle to freedom. We shall nut therefore be sur prised to find the account of his arrest eurlinneJ. Hut it is some consolation to reflect that, neither this I Prince's imprisonment nor the second declaration from Laybach, will retard the 'Latch of principle is Eut ope. We congratulate the friends of Civil and Religion Liberty on the progress of the Catholic Bill. The second reading of it passed last night by a majority of 251 apinst 213. It is gratifying to perceive the gradual obliteration of those illiberal distinctions which arise among members of the same community front their differences of speculative sentiment. It is these odious distinetions which foment the animosity that prevails .between contending sects ; and it is that animosity, thus reciprocally cherished, that chiefly *in stitutes the danger which they severally dread fru" dis prevalence of each other's opinions. In the Visited States of America, where no Christian, whatever be his profession, is excluded from leublic (Alice on account of his faith, and where the Stale exercises towards her c Milken no improper partiality in honors,or renolutnesr. the meiubers of the various sects associate in peace awl harmony; for worldly jealousy respecting their se rat pretensions, is utterly unknown. In prapnitioll as the State takes an interest in a Sect, that Sect most feel an interest foreign to its original chartner : if any thing connected with the measure non in pro gress could awaken in n. anv alarm, it refill he the de sign betrayed in Parliament by a Centle:tian holding a public office, to seize oceasiOn ftoni the merlin' Is subsidize the Catholic priesthood. Mr. Pi.evitcvT , indeed, deprecated such an attempt, a t the pres-ta time. We wish he had firmly resisted it, prospect:J -0 Y and altogether. Tho.e who are acqulinted pith the influence of a paltry sum, called the it, ! sities among the Dissenter's Ministers of Eno.land and Ire land, well know its iucorsisteucy with a spirit of 1:•- •lependence. Charlestown papers arrived this morninz to the Ili of February, but they du not contain any infuriu.tios• - - of London : Edited, Printed. and Publiiheil at Int. ItMre •"Por %N .. and Tut Cos 4rt rt 1 •eada Paper). No. 114. Strand, opposite b% N. 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