The Statesman. — London, England, 1814-05-03 00:00:00

V 1 1 kb the E, 4 ' a. f • Yr 4 therefore move that the Rervvirt be received this day six months. After a few words from Mr. WESTERN and Mr. HARVEY, The AP E A KER observed, that the question which had been raised by the Hen. Member was one im portant to the safety of their- - own proceedings, and the interests of private property ; end be thetefore wished the attention of the House to be particularly given to it. Ilere was a Hill, founded upon one that bad passed last Session, but essentially changing its object and character, and which assumed a; a princi ple that the parties Interested in the first were formal• ly hound to consent to the present, though avowedly producing an opposite result from that to which they had originally assented. Ile could not better illustrate his own conception of the case, than by supposing a canal to be cut, one end of which should terminate at a coal-pit, and the other at a chalk.pit :, , the pot ions interested in this undertaking conseuLtp,it ; but if, afterwards, it were resolved to stop shoe, and to catty the ca ital neither to the coat-pit nor to dwells*. pit, bat only through an intermediate spate, it osald hardly be assumed that the parties, who had in the first instance. agreed to the plan, were also consent ing to the alteration when it accomplished neither of the purposes they might be supposed to have in view. . Something analag ous to this he conceived the present question to be, td it was for the llouse to consider how they would dispose of it. Mr. YORKE thought there was no necessity for Dew notices. After some slight conversation-- The SPEAKER suggested, that the better way would be to let the Bill proCeed through its present stage, and postpone the third reading for eight or ten days, to give the parties time to petition upon the question of the standing order. This proposition was acceded to by Mr. Brand, but we did not hear what day ..va. fixed for the third reading. It ‘MSCATE BARBOUR BILL. Si ,. W. CURTIS moved the second reading of this Bill. _ _ Sir C. NIONCK wished the lion. Baronet had ex plained the nature and extent of the duties to be paid by vessels, acecrding to this Bill, and how far they 'were different from those already levied by former Acts. Sir W. CURTIS observed, in reply, that there It as no port from Portsmouth to: London where ships could enter, except Ramsgate, and it was but lair therefore that they should pay towards defray ing the expenses incident to keeping the harbour in a Safe and good state. A MEM WM, N% hose name we could .not learn, spoke shortly aping the provisions of the Bill, when the House divided upon the second reading, and it was thrown out by a majority of 14, there being 16 for, awl 30 agnits4s. • The Cordage Bill was read a third time, and Fassed. TREATIES WITH TIIE ALLTRS. . The CHANCEI.I.OIt of the EXCHEQUER presented at the BaTreoplerbf the Treatiettigned on the Ist of March last, between this Coariatrg and Austria, Russia, and. Prussia ; and also a Copy of the Convention for the Cessation of Hostilities be tween England and France, signed at Paris on the 23d of April. Having moved that they should lie upon the table, he observed that nothing more would be necessary at present than to observe that the con sideration of the Convention, and of the Subsidiary. Treaties would take place in a Committee of Supply. r.W ITBREA D enquired, whether the Rt. Hon. Gent. and his colleagues had come to a determination 'tot to submit to the House those -Awn relative to the Negotiations at Chatillon, which were prepared for it, but which, in consequence of the subsequent extraordinary eveuti in Europe, they had deemed it proper to withhold ? He did not see how it would be possible to consider the• Treaties now laid before them, without the communication of those antece dent documents. The kiHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he was not aware that it cas the intention of Government to .submit those Papers to the House; hut, at a future period, when the Subsidies theM selvPs were under their consideration, it would be competent for antidembet—to move or -tiods,M. - duction. Mr. WHITBREAD.-.—Then it isdeterntined upon that they shall be refused ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER. replied, that he was not prepared tosiguify that they would be refused. CORN LAWS. Sir HENRY PARNELL rose to submit three pri•positions to the House, which he was anxious should be in the possession of Members, preparato ry to the discussion of his motion which stood for to.morrow (this day). The first was to declare that 'the esportation of alt sorts of corn, meal, grain, &c. should be permitted at all times without any duty or bounty. Mr. HORNER objected to this mode of proceed ing. The more regular way would be to propose Diem in a Committee, and then appoint a time for the consideration of them. Mr. WYNNE thought it would he better to de. fei the discussion of the Honourable Baronet's mo. tion for a fsw days. Sir HENRY PARNELL consented, and fixed it for Thursday next. THE•. ALLIED POWERS. WHITBItEAD wished to ask another ques tion, whether any advances of money were made to any or all of the Allied Powers, subsequent to, and io consequence of, the Treaties that were signed ? De did not mean to imply that any advances so made ,vould have been improper ; but he wished to know • • the fact. The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER, said, that advances had been made to some, but not to Mr. WlllTlMEAD.—Subsequently to, and in congequenre "f, the signing of the Treaties ? Th. CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER. — Subsequently to signing the Treatits. NORWAY. Mr. WYNNF:, in rising to move for certain Pa per. connected with the question of Norway, wished to know whether any Negnriations were now going on with respect to that country 1 From the nature or certain operations, indeed, such es starving the :Sorwegiarts, it did put appear as if there could be THE STATESMAN much room for negotiation. According to the Treaty between this country aid Sweden, we were bound tb assist Sweden iu obtaining the cession of Norway, but It was to be done with " every possible regard to the harmony and happiness' of that country; starving a nation, however, was not one of the most approved modes of producing happiness.—[Hen`, hear!]—He concluded by moving, first, for an Ac count of all the sums of money that had been ad vanced to Sweden since the signature of the Treaty between that country and England-on the 3d of March, 1813. Mr. HORNER, was desirous of asking a question of the Right Honourable Gentleman. He enderstood we were at peace with Denmark, and yet, if he had not been misinformed, orders had been issued to the Beard of Transports to detain the *Danish prisoners of war. Ile wished to know if this iutelligeucries correct ? The'CIIANCELLOR of the EXCIIIEQUER t .in reply, observed that, with regard irs eke Motiserbf the Hon. Member for the production of Papers, he was not aware that there existed any objection to laying there before the House. In answer to a ques.. don that had been asked, as to whether any nego , ciations were carrying ou about Norway, he had no difficulty in stating that negotiations were still pearl ' lug. The Treaty with Denmark had dot been sub mitted to Parliament, because the ratifications were not yet exchanged. With regard to the Danish pri soners of war, he could inform the House the e& person had arrived in this country, commissioned y the Danish Government to regulate their exchange. Mr. WHITBREAD said, he was happy to hear from the Right lion. Gentleman, that negociatioes were still carrying on respecting Norway. He was happy, not for Norway as a power, but for Norway as a people. The case of Norway, he believed, was .not much understood in this country; it•was one, .however, worthy of the most serious and solemn .consideration. They had been told that the ratifies 1. lions of the Treaty between England and Denmark had not yet been exchstoged, but they hed.not been told why. For himself, he found it difficult to imagine a reason, when he refiected on the distance between the two countries. Not only, however, were the ratifications unexchanged, but the treaty had not even found its way into the usual channels of intelligence in this country—he meant the daily jouruals. lie had himself been utterly ignorant of its stipulations, till' very lately that a copy , of it passed into his hands; and upon examining them, he found the second article provided Oita ." all prisoners . I of war should be given up cn inane immediately after the ratification." Here then was the proper explana tioe, which the Rt. lion. Gentleman might havegiven in Inky to the question that had - been put respecting the Daaiislf prisoners; but instead of• this, they were told that a person had arrived from Denmark, with -powers to concert the return of those prisoners.— Wire they to understand that a sort of Vdeffed been pot upon the exchange of them by the Court of Denmark, or was there to be a distinction made be twee* Danish, and- Norwegiau prisoners, and wad the Cosiffsitieury , corne over to separate the one from the other :—By another article of the treaty it was sti pulated that recourse was not to be had to force, for effecting the annexation of Norway to Sweden, nnless the Court of Denmark should not join the Northern Alliance. Really, therefore, look , lug at the present situation of things, at a moment when we are applauding the magnanimity of the Ai.- lied Powers, in every other transaction, and when we are rejoicing in the effects of that wise, moderate, and liberal policy, which they . hare adopted, it is melancholy to think that so bright a scene should be clouded, that the lustre of such achievements should be tarnished by a spot like this: that we should be engaged to starve a nation into, submission to Swe den, whom, as a people, they detest, and whom they are resolved to resist to the last extremity. If, ' i laccording to the Treaty between this country and Sweden, we are bound to accomplish the cession at l ieorway, and if the Norwegians must be transferred like sheep, from one master to another, surely, by the official and solemn surrender made by the Dre. nish Government that end had been accomplished, and they had now, in fact, become the subjects of Sweden. The question then resolved itself into this, whether the House would sanction the Government of this country in aiding Sweden to starve a people into submission ,to her power and rule, they having, in fact, been trattsf. , rred, as far as it was in the power of Denmark to make the transfer. When all the Pipers that would be moved for should be laid before them, it would then be seen whether the stipulations so entered ;into by Sweden had been so performed by her as to call upon England for what she was now doing, in co.. operating to produce a measure so detestabese He should be most happy to learn that the negociatiorss now pending had rendered it unnecessary. When the Swedish Commissioners entered Norway, their I first demand was, that arms, ammunition, and for tresses should be surrendered. This demand was in stantly resisted. He knew it had been said, that this resistance was the act of a single individual, who I was intriguing to secure the possession of Norway to himself, but that the people of Norway were universally . desirous of -- being -incerporitted -with Sweden, and taken under her protection. From all the enquiry, however, that be had made, and from all the information produced by that enquiry, the inhabitants of Nerway, a patient, brave, and enterprising people, were resolved, as one marl, to sacrifice their lives in the struggle, rather than submit.l This sentiment pervaded every part of the country, from nortb to south, and the peasantry had already armed, and were su tiering the most dreadful privations. They were determined that Norway should become a desert rather than they would submit tn the Swe dish yoke. And under whose auspices was all this carried on ? (hider those of a great Captain who had been elected to the high situation which he occupied; and who ha vlog thus owed his elevation to the choice of a people, entered into a conrpact with ether Mrr. tionr. to &liver to him another people who bad *o choice with respect to their Government.—Eitenr, hear r —He hoped, for the sake of humanity, for the sake of that great person who had aeititered'io much for the deliverance of Europe, for tite.:berasee No answer was returned, and the miiiiatt agreed to. • " Mr. WYNNE then moved for a return of the number of troops brought into the field by Sweden in the bite campaign. ' Mr. WHITBREAD took the opportunity in or. der to show that 'Norway had been ceded by Den mark, to reed the 10th article of the 'treaty, signed Feb. 14, between Great Britain and . Denmark, in which his Britannic Majesty declares, that seeing Denmark had fulfilled the engagement into which, she had entered, to cede Norway to Sweden, he on his part engaged, on the conclusion' or pace to use his influence with the other Allied Powers to procure for Denmark an indemnity for that cession. The motion was then agreed to, as were also sub sequent motions for a copy of the conditions of the surrender to, Sweden of the Island of Guadaloupe, and copies of all orders relative to the blockade of the coast of Norway. sINKINO rust). Mr. GH.ENFELL gave notice that he would to morrow make a motion relative to the Sinking Fund. On the motion of Mr. ROSE the Correspondence between the Board of Excise nod the Printer's of the Universities in Scotland respecting the drawbacks on Paper; Its also any proceedings of the Treasury thereon, were ordered to be - laid before the House. On the motion of Mr. GRENFELL an account was ordered to be laid before the House of the clean tity of copper imported and exported in the fait year. Mr. HORNER brought up the Report of the Simple Contract Debt Bill. The amendments were agreed to, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third tiara on Wednesday. COLONIAL OFFICES Rtt.r.. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for the third rending of the Colonial Offices Bill, with a view to its postpone ment. Mr. WHITBREAD expressed his satisfaction that the third reading of this Bill was to he deferred. He wished the Right Hon. Gentleman, before the third reading of the Bill, to ascertain whether the Ciril Go vernor of Upper Canada had not been absent from biQ post for two years, still retaining all the elolument of that office. The Order of the Day was then read, and • 'l'he CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER proposed to postpone the third reading until 'Thurs day ; but at the suggestion of • Mr. BROWN, who said, that Friday was the day 4041tielt it had Welt understood the third reacting of i4lie Bill wits 44 beitestponed, the existing order was sisatelY dischargedOsaid no new day vas fixed. The Corrtrptiaw-ot Blood • and the High Treettoa Penleitissilia Bill, were Mita third time anti ; :I fV f • '44)" Wi l t, Report' at the Chitgy :Ptituittitestaitl was taken isiea•farther considerattotil 4111141 titter 4 60 Ili troiluction airla Tittie q of 14* elttottivaito.:ttivensliihents by Mi. of this country, for, the honour of Govereaseftt, whose steps with ►expect to foreign "wisdom' from a certain period been most- Nippy to. appletedi, that Mioisters would be able to extricate , tiewideltesei item the clillicttitieJ in . which :hey seeilto inlottattakil theflebject ; and if net, he hoped he should be able t*.persteade.the Hops' of Commons, On an &amine don and comparison of the stipulations of the differ. ens treaties, thdttlie 'Government and the country were in no way bound to be the abettors of this most ( disgraceful attempt. At present he would not fur ther trouble the House. Be should be very glad to hear from the Right Honourable Gentleman, why the Danish Treaty had not been ratified, and ' whether any Commissioner had been sent from Den mark to make a selection between the Danish and . Norwegian prisoners, in order that the one might be " retained and the other set at liberty. Before he sat 'down he begged to recap the attention of the House to the debate on the Swedish Treaty last year, in the Before hf.s.k,ur t4e,trICE.CHANCELLO2; .course of which, a Right lion. Gentleman, whom TUll ATTORNEY-GENERAL V. RUFSELL. he did not then see in his place, asked whether the This was an information filed by his Majesty's At, terms of it were to be interpreted into a guarautee of - totney-General, against the Defendant, who w the possession of Norway to Sweden ? The answer trustee to a charity, that he let to hims e lf a ewes " - was, no; and more than that, a Noble Lord, in i , parcel of land in the year 1776 ; for 30 y ears, I ntl: remarkable mode of expression, observed, that the rate of 481. a year: the information charged that the Right Honourable Gentleman who put the question land was worth much more t and prayed a n accoi n s oughtto be better disciplined in diplomatic terms, to be taken before the Master. than to suppose that the Treaty could be interpreted • Mr. LEACH contended that the Plaintiff, as trov e , into such a guarantee. The fact was, that no tie to the charity, had not the right to let the premis es existed by which the country was bound, or which . to himself, and that he could not be at the one tim e called Upon the House to sanction the publication in Lessor and Lessee. the Gazette of Saturday last. - ; Sir SAMUEL ROMIT.LY said he was no advocate for The CHANCELLOR of the . EXCHEQUER, a trustee of a charity being both Lesso r an d Lessee , observed, that it could not be eapected he should be but he trusted that his Hosoer would consider hew prepared to answer all the questions that had been tardy the other party had bees in making the alto. put to him. With respect to the,treaty with Sweden it cation, as it was only at the end of 44 years they had Was one which last year had received the approba. : 4sound out the grievance, and after 16 years of the tion of Parliament. The House would recollect that ;lease had expired. , the treaty between Russia and Sweden was the key. ti Mr. Leaco replied. .. -,- , ttr . .. stone of that glorious confederacy by which such I His Honour the Vice.Criancer.tna said lie weed signal benefits to Europe had been achieved. For - read the evidence, and give his °pima° uon a future our part, we had done nothing in the course of the - day. whole of the proceedings, but in the strictest concert ; His Honotma then sat for two hours afterward s ;with our Allies, and whick we had not been timid. ..and although there were eleven other causes on the mously called on by them to do. It was perfectly paper, there was not a single Counsel in attendance, true that we had not engaged to guarantee Norway IISP' to Sweden, after the cession of it by Denmark ; but COURT OF KING'S 'BENCH, MAY 2 . that cession had not taken place. It would be im. INSOLVENT IMMO: ; Several Insolvent Debtors were brought up this proper for him to- go more particularly into tht mnning, anti discharged. Among others, a man i n subject at present, but he desired that the House would suspend their judgement upon it, until the custody at the suit of a Plaintiff, named Sermon, Whole case came before them. The lion. Gentleman took the usual oath, and the crier of the Court three opposite had been greatly misinformed. It was by , different times called on the Plaintiff to come forth no means true, that frOm one, end of Norway to the ' and show cause why he should not be discharged. other there existed a spirit of resistance to the Swedish t: No person appearing, the Mfendant was pa Government. It was equally unfounded that tto H.; flounced discharged. An Attorney's Clerk, who beral offer had been made to Norway on her annex- had been standing by the debtor all the time, knew. ation to . Sweden. On time contrary, a moregenerous ; diately started forward, and tendered him his groats offer had been made than in any other case of cession i with a note, which was to operate as a detainer. (bat had occurred ht the history of I:0 world. With : The man, however, asserted that he had been dis respect to the causes that had led .to the rejection of ' charged, and refused to Accept either the groats or this offer, the present was not the pro* time to the note. The Clerk then applied to- ... communicate them to Purliament. As to the L. Sir Simon Le Blanc, the CoMmissioners, he • was not 'aware thefaitY ellieci-! sitting Judge, and statesk, that he was not aware from Danmark, with such 'air object a - that ascribed that it, was necessary to•delise. the note before the to him, was in the country . • 1 , Plaintiff bad been called a third time, and bad neg. Mr. WHITBREAD 'eked; Whether the Offer ors tested to comply with the , usual ( "lII.' I" was is constitution, or of ' a partiCipaifon in" the gylish Coli,. _1 N.Jkoifaver. ;mid- hoped his lordship would per. Constitution (which the Right Hon. Gentlemen had Enit won ld fray the groats; awl deliver his not , the.; chosen to characterise as the most liberal offer that , • sirlimoN Lr IlLs<xc aniti,lthe man had been re• had ever been made to a nation in thebistory of the 0"V discharged, and ao he Had keard.the Plaintiff World) was nor preceded by a demand to the Norwe- ; called three several, dome, and did not answer, he gians to deliver up their fortresses and arms? He would also i .-- -ask, could not help him. if, in a 'c',Osontif Pessesied `fit not :* ' T ilt ' hitoter .Loft 4 . . D ort 11 ' . hi g h ' 064 1 t a d score than 7 or 800.000, or at most under a million : much elated at Aitrusgrrotr MAIMrt froorthe gripe. of of inhabitants, 3U or 40,000 persons were not ac- i the gaoler, who ;faked to- conduct him back to twill.) , embodied to resist the annexation of Norwa y ' , ..------ , N r ew" lt-te• to Sweden ? Bathuritfaireed to; was . ordered to b. read a third time to.matesar. The Cottrox Duty . Bill was read a wood tido, yid ordereilg i be sommittell to-morrow. Tke,W*ort, if:, tho Committee op •the bro l g wn Li btbrui t e,. In!. brought up and egroed 4h , o f id i „Ili' egorftereiti to be br4o,ght in accoqling f/ s . e oilier_gplers: of the Day Wen Ab 4 d 4• sae lbw Ifilliariiiinnied: - - -- miumm--. -ire t ,• 1 et: LAW INTIBLLIONNeg.' MIR/ OF CHANCERY, MAY 2. 1 REX 0. firlfty SWANN, ESQ. The AtTORSIT•( 4I s-ENEaLL, prayed thejudgment of the tbert igaiett this Defendant, who had suffered it by default, for en assault: Upon the.Rev...Toseph Fortonb. lit appeared, that the parties were Di- I rectors of the Cornwall Mounts' , Bay Harbour Com pany, and that the assault was committed at one of ifs meetings in London. It appearing, from the affidavits of several other Directors, that the Prose , cutor had, on former occasions, announced ion tions of violence against the Defendant, and on the I nkcasion in question, he had used language unbe coming his cloth, and had given the Defendant the lie, ; 1 theCoort adjudged the Defendant to pay a fine of 10 1 . and to enter into a recoanizauce of the peace for three years, himself in 10 01. and two sureties in 501. • each. REX V. AMY. Judgment was also prayed against this Defendant, a livery servant, who had been found guilty of an as sault upon his master, Captain Kinnersley, whom be had insulted and stricken in the presence of the fe. males of his family. The Defendant presented a Petition to the Court, stating that he had been im— prisoned on this indictment eleven months, viz. ever since it was found, he not having been able to 6nd hail, and that he had been prevented by his poverty from instructing Counsel to pray for judgment. The Court took the Petition into its consideration, but ob served, that a great part of this impriso.doeut be had brought upon himself, by not suffering judgment by default ; he was, therefore, adjudged to three months further imprisonment, and to enter into a recognizatice of the peace for three years afterwards MI 1001. ROLL'S COURT, MAY 2. ES-PARTE CHORISTER OF . T. PAUL'S CATHEDRAL. At six o'clock this evening this Court was uncoil% mostly crowded with the numerous friends of this in stitution, to hear the conclusion of the learned ar-• guments of this interesting cause, which terminator in a most grave, forcible, and solemn reply from Sit!. Samuel Romilly, on the part of the petition of Misss, Hackett, the relator in this matter. The petition . - prayed for a reference to a Master to receive a scheme? for carrying into effect the laudable institutions of; the founders of the choir, augmented by donation,- at sundry times since the endowment 'fourteenth century, and ratified by various stlitotd-. and ordinances ever since, for the maintenance of is; grammar-school, and other improvementsis the', practice of singing and devotion. •' Sir SAMUEL Rost.) t.r.Y vindicate* the coedoct of; Miss Hackett, as a just attempt to-restore the lust'- mien to its primitive nbject o and the intentigtil .9( the founders. His rioNooe postponed jtitlgteent till he 001 111 * read alt the sdocuments.—Judgment deferred. . • -•- r I )4i\ tai4 J. • St le** A • O'v lc; v it ay 3 S.