The Statesman. — London, England, 1819-03-05 00:00:00

I ';s: 4 ,} F LATE WAR IN INDIA. Tilt: ENGLISH ROMAN CATHOLICS. Lord NUCENT said. he held in his hand the tenable Petition of the Catholics of England. This Petition was signed by upwards of 10,300 persons, amongst whom Isere 11 Peers,lll Baronets,and several hoodred Gentlemen of for humans) high respectability. end at the bead of the list stood the name of the Doke of Norfolk. 11. should not now enter into the subject, or attempt to describe what the relief to be mended to this numerous body of pert's, should he ; but contest himself with storing that the prayer elf the Petition was 'holler to those of former petit , lions presented annually by individuals an much more able to advocate the cause of the Petitioners than be wee, end whose loss the Petitioners. the country. mud the House had to lament. The Noble ,I.otd wren proceeded to *stogie' the Iste Mr. Windham and Mr. Elliott, to whose politic sir stressed talents he paid a tribute of applies*, which wes loudly cheered by the Hoesat.—The Peti. Lion of the Catholics of Ireland would shortly come snider the consideration of the Deese, and he should (afterwards have to submit a motion to the !Unseen the subject of these Petitioner', to whose cause how ever he argued more good from their own constant steady good conduct, then from any advocacy of his. The Petitioner' complained of • w• gri ,namely, religiose and political ditqeetifications. Their poli tical disqoalifications and ineapacities arose out of constancy to religiose principles and spiritual rites, a coastline, which would be the brat security for their performance of moral and political duties; yet for this constancy they were eacleded from participating io the benefits and advantages enjoyed by their fel low-subjects. The Catholics of England had been for .Rea treated., a clam of persons disqualified for disaffection. Ile would ask in what period of our history, since the repel of the Penal Laws against them, bed they been found disaffected? Had they not en, on the contrary, found standing forward In the ranks of cbivalry and fame, sod defending this Protestant Lead, our Constitution, and OW Laws,', even against consecrated banners end armies of Ce. tholics ? With high feelings of boomer, and with strong religious principles, he would .sit what bad the State to fear from admitting them to a participe-, tion of political privileges? He entreated the House to recollect the years of endeserved obloquy ender , which they bad laboured, and, shove all, remember , that the disqualification of any body of our fellow: 'objects tended to weaker the State. The Noble Lard concluded by moving for leave to bring up the Petition. Lord MORPETH wee motions to second this mo tion, and to pay his tribute of applause to the con duct of the English Roman Catholics. Ile must al so allude to the language of the Petition. The Pe titioners made no professions of loyalty, bet referred the House to their acts and their mended, and ea. pressed a hope that the (loose, is its wisdom, would not suffer them mach looser to labour modem the dis advantages of their present situation. Dr. PIIILLIMORE could not refrain from ray ing a few words on this Petition, which, from its im portant', called for the serious litigation of the Route. Amongst lbws who had piped it, he per ceived the names of many who, by their salon, in war and their wisdom in piece, had contributed to ' raise ; this country to the high eminence en which she now stood. These respectable wee, In times of pe. cellar dangers, had proved their attachuseet to the Constitution and their country. Ile begged Gen tlemen to consider the period at which restrictioos were imposed on our Catholic ceentrynote. Surely it would become a new Parliament to admit within time pale of the Conetits I bail time men who bad pros. od e amidst every civil disability, their loyalty sod of fectioo t• the State and the Laws.—The Polities was then reed. Mr. W. SMITH hoped this Petition wield be folly considered, and its prayer completely granted. But Ite most notice that ell the Dissenters that could wet take the 'fest sad Corporstion Oaths .tare dia. abled from every thing hot sitting in that Hooey.— Ile bring • Protestant Dissenter, was enable to lead any civil, military, or ecclesiastical office. Be hoped, when the prayer of this Petition was complied with, the Protestant Diameters wield be relieved from their disabilities, Vll : : on • Pidgeon IP RS thee ordered to b. laid so the table. sod to be pr i 444 ed. The Serjsoot .t Arms reported, Obit in porsoaneo of the orders of the House he bad takes Mr. Long Wellesley and Mr. Lawson Into assiody, for bolos absent from tho ballot. On the motion of Mr. CANNING, they were or. tiered to bo discharged on paying their foss. Mr. CANNING rose to more that the House should acknowledge, in the steal way, the services of the Marquis of Hastings, and the Officers and Sol dier* under his command. In doing this he wished to be anderstood that he considered the vote in a mi. litary view purely, mod not in a politicsl one ; bet If he should advert to oar political relations in India, It would be to make the military operations better understood. He knew how much the prejedke and obloquy reigned in this country that all our wars In India were eaprovokeri, and for our own aggran disement ; bet be had himself no difficulty in say ing, that be believed in every war our policy might be shown so be as clear as our valour in the field was cnospi . It was not to be wondered et t►at itrrjetlire shoeld be against us, when it was COl9l. tiered to what as went oar territory in ladia had stretched, from narrow strips on the sea coast. The /Coble Person to whom he (Mr. C.) had succeeded le office. bad made it hit polky to recommend mairteres of conciliation ■nd instruction, and be (Mr. C.) ball _ . followed his plan. At the eemmeneemmit of the lat• campaign, the Genera! Government of India bad no power to engage in our unless on great emer. geney. Such we, the case when the Piodarees cow. wonted their attacks on our territories: and he con fessed he was surprised at first, ths► its pet them down should have required such estensive prepara tions. These men, consisting of 3C,000 Mehl and irregular horse; which could only be sepptessed by being completely surrounded, r:id not commit one solitary set of atrocity, but Lade eruptions into our Bengal, Bombay., end Madras territories; sot that the General Government Iry obliged to afford .protec tion t• the People, over whom nor dominion use lamed. Their irruptions Into the territories of Me. dia., wit accompv.ied by every eacese, repine, ripe, murder, tic. There were not wanting iostences wherewonsee of whole villages had precipitated them- Whet into wells to ovoid their brute! violence; and fathers and husbaeds, anticipating the fate awaiting those moat deer to them, surrounded their dwellings with fuel, set fire to them, and perished with their families. The loss of property occasioned by these banditti, amounted to • million sterling. These men had formerly served in the muslin of Scledisis, Hel kar, and an adventurer named Meer Khan. It wet natural, when they found our Government arming against them, to implore the assistsoce of their fernier masters. This Lord Hastings anticipated; but he had no idea they would be joined by the Niihau end the Rajah of Mpe's.; bit he made sufficient preps. rations, which enabled him to suppress the Pindarees, end to compress Scitscliah into a Treaty. From Amer Khan he forted the surrender of his artillery, and the disbanding of his troops. With respect to Holkar, the papers on the table were least explanatory; bet his could state, that Holkar's mother, who was Regent, and favourable to es, was dragged by the hair of her head by one of her Officers, which be cot of; and the consequence was, that Holkar's troops attacked the army of Sir T. Hislop; bat the battle of the Nerbadda destroyed this league, and Holkar was obliged to con. fine his territories to the other side of that river.— While these things were going oe, the league be tween the Peisiswa and the Rajah of Magpies was perfecting. Ilet even at this time Sir J. Malcolm, than whom no man was better acquainted with the policy of the native Princes, believed the Peishwa to be sincere in an interview he bad with him on the way to joist the army. Hot soon after the Pe shwa made a treacherous attack on the small force with Mr. Elphinstene, our Resident at his Court, which was repelled ; and the Marquis of Hastings sent a force, which reduced him from a wanderer to • captive. The Rajah of Nagpore made a similar attack ow our Resident at his Covet, - and his chastisement was similar, except that he had not been made a captive, but continues a fugitive still. New over such an extent of space, which makes Feropeen warfare shrink in comparison, it would be impossible for him to travel; but every whore the same valour and conduct appeared.-- Of the 90,000 men Lord Hastiest, brought into the field, only 10,000 of them were Europeans. Yet the Native soldiery bad shown equal valour and fidelity with our owe. Many of them bad been raised on the Pelshwa's territories, and were attempted to be brought over to his service; but they stood firm, and showed their Officers the temptations held out to them. A small party, of 900 or 1000 men, were pawing throes's the Pelshws's territories when the war brokeont, when they wereattseked by the whole Mahrotta Army, whom cavalry amounted to 10,000 men. These they repulsed in all their attacks, and carried off their wounded. This gellasst party was commanded by Capt. Stanton. In 48 general ac tions, and the capture of 110 forts, some deemed lens pregnable, the British arms were equally successful. Col. Thomas Moore set out with 1100 men only, to take possession of part of the Marotta territory, taking 10 forts, end above all, winning the hearts of the natives wherever he went, and succeeded in se curing a large tree of territory. Gen. Smith released the Rajah of Settersh, whose ancestor hail been de. prised of his Sovereignty by a former Nisbet, and be is now restored to the power of his ancestors. This was gratifying to think of, in a country where, bog before our time, though we bear the blame, lyres ties were very commonly supplanted. The result was, that the whole of oar enemies had bee. sup. pressed, and though our territory had been advanced, it had also been narrowed. The Governor-General had net been more distiogoished in the field then by extending institutions both awful and instructive le the People ; by which, if our rule be more augmented, it will also be more stable, because more beloved. He then moved the 'Cheeks of the House to the Marquis of Hastings, ke. He said it was suggested to him that he ought to notice the conduct of Sir T. Ilislop on owe occasion; in summoning a fortress of Holkar's, en event *enured which was detailed in the papers before the How, which contained all that Govern. meet or Podia Compile, knew on the subject. From all that he (weld leans, Sir T. Hislop was eminently abhorrent of soy act of cruelty ; sod they bad two' distinct approvals of that Gallant Officer's con. elect by Lord Ratings ; and it was not I.kely be would abstain from blame, if blame bad been me.l rited. The Government and the Company, how. ever, had sent over • peremptory order for every information en the subject, because he was free to admit, the information at resew on this subject was by no means satisfactory. Any person would find that in these papers there were many chasms, mod any one might see that in the Gazelle of Saturday night there was an account of actions perform.: a year ago. Therefore be poll- Hiked every information as he received it. At first' he considered Sir T. Ilislop's conduct wrong ; but when his Commander's approval of his conduct ar. rived, he thought he most have beet. mistaken, and, therefore, he waited for more information. In the mean time it was not intended to exempt Sir T. Hislop from any of the honours ; but, at the same' time, be thought the House ought to record, in a separate Vote, its own suspended judgment as to the conduct of Sir T. itidop, without any thing imply ing suspicion on the one hand, as they could not completely seppress the expression of their suspicion on the other. Lord MORPETII gave his unqsulified approba tine to the conduct of the Gnvesnor-Cesserel in the field. lie agreed else hi all that had been said its praise of the Oilcans and men of the Indian army: the Officers, in particular, were distinguished justly for their scientific retouch. The Right lion. Gent. had properly put this vote entirely on a slithery (swain, and he (Lord begged to be ender,tood as net approving of t►e policy which dictated the late campaign in India; and, therefore, would sus pend his *photos respecting it. lie admitted the cruelties of the Plods's'', and that they deserved Ilse retributive justice of their expiating their crimes under the hoofs of our cavalry; bet he could tint think that race es altogether eatirpated, and until that sac done, he did tint believe they could repress their hostility altogether. As to the esecuttes of the Killed., of Talmeir, be mast my, that in his opision he alight to hate been given up to !bilker, as a traitor 1.. his authority, bet by no means amenable to as.— Ue moved, that the liaise, is granting its ~{ THE STATRSMAN. Thanks to Sit T. Hislop, did not Array give any opinion as to the execution of the Kinkier of Talneir, respecting which they had not sufficient information to 'sable them to form s judgment. This was use smeary, in order to vindicate the character of our Government end the nation to the whole world. Mr. HOWORTH coneerred in the Vote of Thanks to the Marquis of Hastings and the Army, bet he hoped the Howse would investigate the cause of the invasion and occupation of so much territory, and the subjugation of so great a number of persons. • Sir R. WILSON said. he would net enter into the policy or impolicy of that belligerent or defen sive system, as it was called, which hod ratenderl oar empire from the sea coast to the Indus ; bat it re. quired no second Daniel to see what would be the conseqeenca of it is time. He rose to agree nith this Vote of Thanks, as oo army ever deserved such a vote more. At the same time he approved of the Res*Wino of the Nebie Lord, as it preserved the dignity of that Mese, sod did not think that it pre judged the am in the opinion of the army. Sr J. MACINTOSH did not mean to controvert any part of be Right Hon. Gentleman's speech, but would reserve to himself the power of collies for in. formation on thou, points which he might think un satisfactorily euplaised. He had listened with On set, to the praises bestowed on the Governor-Gene ral, Sir J. Malcolm, and Mr. Elphiostone. As to the aspleit of Captain Stanton, he questioned whe ther that glorious stand was ever equalled in the an nals of modern war. Ho hoped, and believed. that Sir T. Ilislop would be able in jevtify and explain the act of petting to death the Killed*, of Tahiti, ; at the same lime, he most admire the Resolution moved by his Noble Friend. Sir W. BURROUGHS thought, the policy of the I war was as clear and as jemifiable, as the valour and conduct displayed in the field were conspicsoes.— . l We held the immense empire of 70 millions of mom by armies raised among themselves; unlike the Rs. meaty, who held Asia by legions levied in Gaul ; and Britain, by others raited in Pannonia. The Vote of Thevlis was tiles carried, new. cox. Oa the motion of Lord Morpeth being put, Mr. FORBFS said, that a document had been pet into his hands by some of Mr T. Hisinp's friends, but so far from being satisfactory to his etied—(Cries of Order.) Mr. 'FAZAK ERIN rose to order. 110 was sore the lion. Gant lemon was the last that wwald wish to prejudge or condemn a person is his absence, and without the necessary information. Mr. FORBES said, that was not his wish ; het he could not agree to the You of Thanks to that Officer. Lard Nemeth's It...elation was theacarriesi. Mr. WROTI*EiLF:Y moved for e Committee to enquire into the propriety of removing Ike Commie. sins of Bankrupt from Geildhall. A Committee last year. proposed the new building should he as neer to Guildhall se possible; but he thought the Merchants would not be inconvenienced by its be. ing removed at some distance from Guildhall. His object was, to get a Select Committee to enquire to what piece the Commissions should be remand, per haps to Ferniest's Inn. Mr. J. SMITH opposed the motion. The re moval of Bankrupt Meetings to Furnival's Inn, had bens long a favourite point with the lion. Gentle. man. Though Guildhall was a very improper place for them, yet a suitable owe might be erected oa the site of Blackwell Hall, and he understood the Cor poration of London was willing to give every anew• modetion. He moved the prestos, qnstion. Alderman WOOD s.id, Furnival's Inn had been rebuilt on ■ speculation that then Meeting. would be removed there, but he hoped the House would vet agree to it. Mr. Alderman WA IT (DIAN said, to remain the Meetings to Fermin'', lon would he most locative. Meta. It appeared, however strange, that n Cosa. mlssioneis were necessary, when one sat io the Insol ent Debtors' Court. Ile thought us the places fell vacant, they ought to be reduced to sit or eight. He principally objected that a proper nomination of the bankrupt could not be got without hardening the estate with a private hearing. There was a spot of ground near Guildhall, which the Corporation was ready to give up for a fair remuneration. Mr. COUILTENAY said, this was not • motion for a revision of the Bankrupt Laws, bet for a Com mittee to find out a convenient spot for holding Bank rept Meetings. Now that such a spot was found in Holborn, other spots, never mentioned before, were offered for this porpose. It was said the place in Holborn would be inconvenient for the Merchants of London ; bet that was a matter effecting the Public, and, with all deference, these Merchants were bet a small pert of the whole Public. Wherever it might be removed, enquiry was necessary. Mr. WILSON, as a commercial man, could not help saying, then could be no doubt whether a spot near Gandhian or Firmivers Inn was the most con. venient. Mr. ELLICE wished the original motion to be withdrawn, en an understanding that he should hring it forward, if the City of London would nut grant Was k w,ll-hall. Mr. MARRIAT objected to the inconvenience of multiplying Committees. Mr. U. HARVEY said, the greatest ineonveni. epee from the constraction of the Commission, which cupid lint Ise remedied until the Commissioners were rendered independent of every other branch of their profession. Mr. WHOITESLEI" replied; and the Howse divided— Fur thir sr dine 6?—Fur the previninq•euiwn V. The Committee well then 'pe-tinted. Th. further consideration of the Poor Leers Bill wee postponed seta Monday. Aldermen WAITH 'JAN seared fore. Acceeet .f the number of Agent, for Insolvent Debtors; and of Persons committed for Debt and discharged since 17in.—Ordered. Alderman WAITIIMAN then moved for en Ac. costa of the Duties paid for Auctioneers' Licences since the tlit of December, 1811. Ile moved for this document. to tee whether the Revenge bed sof tened by Mock Aectioss, at which every species of fried twos committed. To remedy these evils, be hoped for the concurrence the Chancellor of IM Escheqeer ; heroes, any 801 es this sshject most be a blowy Bill ‘% '% k .. ye The CHANCELLOit k er iheItiC3RQUER had ne objection to theLasetien: and. therejsa a great deal of CrtiWthrhanke tbs.. Alderessilsad said.-- Cosegileintsbajpeee k leade of freed in Mock A amitosis, but there appekra-lis twilimaker to the R eeeeee from the remedies already prlposed. If a Bill divested of this atiodinn were brought beat, the Mew, be would give it his support. Alderoon WA ITAI MAN thoosht the Right Hon, Civilians,' +geld eppreso et the Rill if he s. hew it hid been simplii►d.—The theliell wet then •greed to. The Windsor Fatsblishment Rill was reed • wend time, nod ordered to be committed tn-morrow. CASTLERKAGII, in answer to a question from Sir A. Hope. said, that !oar Flurries were lumen se fficieet by the Committee, end he acquiesce I. If ihe lion. Member OlOttit I. Overture the Wend in of the Committee he most do it by a Resolution of the Rouse. Any sating (runs the 50,00(1. Afield be paid t. the Treasury. Sir A. HOPE. th.,uaht that any series' should be appropriated to the pa ) mont of sit Equerries. and net to the Civil List, until their salaries were dis charged. • Mr. BANKES thought the °say ••y would lw, by • ••brt••tfn motion, and riot by • motion io 11.• Committee. The SPEAKER concerted in that opinion; but afterwards added, that the lion. Member might move that the Report, when brought up, be taker into consideration, fo► the partial* of substiteting sit, instead of four, Egnerries. Mr. !MINIKES wished that the Hen. Member would delay his motion till neat week, when his ob jets would be Neatly attainable. Sir A. HOPE declined to secede to this suggestion; and gees notice, that to.sonrrow he shred suave thin the Report be taken iron consideration, wit►the view f rebstiteting via for She four Equerries. The other Orders of the Or, were then disposed of, and at lielf.past Eleven the Hoes* a.!journed. TO con REsportostirs. we participate in the (relines se ow feirally Cer►tawa. that es she tate fleeting s he says— ViHris moue Deis plesdl • Nil side CATON: ;" awl we ray. in less classic laacaade— •' nal Wes wed Care did in this divide. They elbseed* wowqw'reng, he she csinciseed side." PRICK fir STOCKS Tilt Rost wet 3 per fem. Rel. 74f 3 perCest. COMPOIi in 31 per Crag. 1131 taaseighe Ace. 746 4 per CM. get HAY AT (1:4 I: ircLOLA. 5 per Cent. sln*y 1041 lad.a I...nds 35 NJ Loerc I,xirilinliter Bilk par Idle. Uniairat THE STATESMAN. LONDON: 'Knorr. KARIM 5, $lll9. ON TOE AFFAIRS OF FRANCE. The political affairs of t►is finest of all the king doms in the world, has occupied the attention of every Statesman ID England, from the moment the wells of the Bartile, that shntgeon of despotism, was knocked about the ears of its defenders. To see • nation inspired as it were by some superoatersi power, sad all et once throw off its disgraceful shackles, and assume the garb and attitude of freemen, could not but strike the eye and fit the at tention of surrounding nations. Then it was that the most powerful, the most consemately laid, Coali tion rose op that ever was 'shamed on t►e face of the globe. RICHARD'S Cress& was nothing to it. The failure of it, and of a second and third are too well known to be dwelt upon here. There must have been some great engine et work to require so many instruments to break it to pieces. That engine was • mass, a vast mass of MENTAL POllllll4 occa sioned by long suffering and • senor of wrong.— The arms of all Europe (strange that social institu tions should produce so much social violence, but this also is one of the evils arising out of a great good, according to the universal and undeviating laws of the moral world), the arms of all Europe were aimed at the regenerated French, and their CONDORCETS and their I3RI•soTS, their GUADETI and their VEIONIEUX, their BUIOTS and their VADEE, were pat to death, bet neither the remembrance of the cause of the Reformation, nor the object of it were eatingeished by the destruction of same scores of the first Legislators in the world. They aimed at the obtainment of a Constitution like that of the unabused one in England. They would hale a boundary set, as a limit to delegated power, which is always prone to encroachment. The Constituted Authorities of the time refused this rational re quest, and, by that refusal, armed a new and a more numerous, but less enlightened body of com► plainants, against not only their oppressors, but also against their eilvocates, accused of too mach luke aritrusneas in their cause. All the world knows the sequel. It were desitable that future Liatorians could be priviliged to pass over the bloody details, and leave a vast hiatus in the barman history, or fill cp the space with a kind of episode, or new dialogue, between SwlresGutuvrat and a refined liouvrusat. So mach has been said to peep's, our Readers for scents and discussions, N./Lich are assuredly about In take place on the great political theatre of oar neigh bours. The King of FIANCL is ungeesti,tiably in a very delicate, distressing, and some add, dangerous sitoolion at t►is moment. Ile has been long in Ent land : and he reads the Newspapers. What sill La t►ink should the °,.e, from %hose asthoritstise, or rather impertinent opinions oar prevent subjoct ►as arisea, fall coder his eye. It is, after speaking of t►e Ortlineuee, of the sth of September, 1816, which t►e writer is qurstios cells a fetal step, than written: " Ever Aare that 'else step, Lucre 'l2l Put- 40 411