The National Register. — London, England, 1819-11-28 00:00:00

:Pulped:ll Parliament. HOUSE OF LORDS. TUESDAY, NOV. 23. orEwixo or TARLIAXENT. This being the day appointed for the meeting of Parliament, die Prince ltegent entered the House of Peers at two o'clock, and having taken ills seat on the Throne delivered the following ipaciousspeeeli : My Lords, and Gentlemen, - - • It u with great concern that lam again obliged to announce to ybu the continuance of Ilia Nlajestyia. lamented indisposi- I regret to have been under the necessity of calling yosstoge 111er at this period of the year ; but the seditious practices so lift prevalent in some of the manufacturing districts of the country have been continued with increased ictivity since you were last assembled in parliament,. They have lid to proceedings,incompatible with the public tranquillity and with the peaceful habits of the industrious classes of the community ; and a spirit is fully manifested. utterly hos tile to the Constatution.of this Kingdom. and aitniegnot only at the change of those political institutions. winch have hitherto omstituted the pride and security, of this Country. but at the Subversion of the Rights of property, and of all order in society. I have given directions that the necessary information an this subject shall be had before you ; and I fed it my isdispensablc duty to press on your immediate attention the consideration of such niollitUftS as may be requisite for the counteraction anal sup pression of a system which, if not effectually checked, must bring confusion and ruin on the nation. Gest/a/wag (par House of Commons. The estimates for the ensuing year will be laid before you. The necessity of affording protection to the lives and property of his Akittity's loyal subjects has compelled me to make some addition to our military fore., ; but I have no doubt you will be of opinion that the arrangements for this purpose have been infected in the manner likely to be the least burthensoine to the ouuntry, Although the revenue has undergone some fluctuation since the close of the last Session of Parliament, I have the satisfaction of being able to inn= you, that it appeals to be again in a course at progressive improvement. SUI 114: depression still continues to exist in certain branches of our manufactures, and I deeply lament the distress which is in consequence flt by those who,more immediately .depend upon them ; but this depression is Kt agreat measure to be ascribethsto the embarrassed situation,. of other counuies, and I. earnestly hope that it will be found to be of a temporary nature. Oily Lords, and Codicrnca,, I continue to receive from Foreign powers the strongest amt Timms of their friendly dispodtion towards this couulry. It is my most anxious wish that advantage should be taken of this season of peace to secure and advance out iutemal.prospe lily ; but the successful prostration of this object must mien tially depend on the preserv...ion of domestic trauquillity. Upon the loyalty of the great body of the people I have the roost confident reliance ; but it will require your utmost vigi lance and exertion, collectively and individually, to check the assannination of the doctrine, of treason and impiety. and to mprees upon the minds of 'all classes of Ills Majesty's subjects. 1.:„..t it is from the cultivation of the piindples of religion, and trout a just subetdination to lawful suthorizi„ that we can alone expect the continuance of that divine favour and protection which have hitherto lawn re signally experienced by this King dom. The Fringe withdrew at die conclusion of the above. and the Ilouee was soon. after clear of the noble and elegant company which attended the ceremony. Refine the I mid hatic,ellor adjourned the tloese to five n'elock. the Dose of Clarence and Duke of-ltid:mund took the oaths and their sera The Lola Chancellor having re-entered the House at five o'elock, and teken.his beat on the Woolsack, the Regent's speech was again read. Lord 111. es yeas then rose to move tba Adams, which was sto team' the epeech. Lord Cue Refuel. secocded the Address in a low tore of voice. Earl GREY, said. he could not give his assent to the Address, en the ground that neeher the Address nor the Speech appeared calculated to e irteluee conciliation with respect to the people.— les 'from sever assembled to perfume its dory at a more awful crisis. Never had the Lords peg:lidded surrounded by greater danger. lle for one did not thitik the line of pol ey adopted by reovernmeet vies sir h as to mettle him to concur in the Address. The Speech pre,ented. 'going and appallingstatenteute oftlitte;er. Foul practices were eaid te prevail, ant the Noble Lord readily admitted the twee-reify of petting a bier to this danger, but nut by acts of military Tower and new laws. tie had heard coercion recommended, but the Nuble Leta would tither recommend the Itealie to adopt Moro me:entre.; would ft...ICYC the dietressee of the people. by coneitietioe and coateeeion. 'chic evil arose from the grievances of the peuel,, ma:Oohed perhaps by a line of Nile.) , which had beta too lon foVerwetl. The speech from cue Throne steted, in snore; tcn.ns, the extreme difficulties of the tioultry, and the Noble Lune who, moved the Address imposed tome etrotie efficient inetteute es a remedy.. The internal state of the =airy was afilicting, he WA rearly.ui agree, and it called on this occasion fee UM pnimay coneideneien of Parliament. — The carte of that state of things wee principally a system of po:iey welch in the eye of Pareatuent called for correction Tbe Noble Earl was wady to oppose the prejeets of ILulical Reformers, wins MILAilt to 0.; tem.:demi as Lading the people to ruin ; but wl.ilat Parliameet looked at t tt danger with a netennioattott to resist it, they sietuld take tare (eat they fief not r)Li , lst. the Conatimtioe to still greeter &tigers.— The Noble :timer of the :et:diced salt!, the liberty of the people Ought not to inteefere with the selety cf the conetitution ; hut the safety of the corethutioe depended on the preservation of pubic hJerty .. le* the Noble Lord. said one *add exist without tee other. he was in error, The situeeon of the country was truly lseeentaela th-cenuait was heard every whereouni con te-quently the ertemnietion was that the people were badly go verned. It e.ellee not tee supposed that people living under 1 , ,111 tsenetii.ent governiurnt would feel any Eliseo ition to rebel. Toe people of Mk °annoy wankd eochtleu nor. r ;urn upon their benetisettine Pasbanieut were to say whether the disorders of obe eount:y were cwt OCCURRELYI by emend distress. l'erionie Might have teem ale:mete, of that thetrees. but proper dis tinction ehoule he mete teroteen those Wee h e w b een lins e e d ee l *heir bad ad, iee.e lu:edge:lee ,:as due to the unfortunate, who 61 the midst of sat ::ring :sad talimity, had been led away. A Noble Friend, two yeate ago, speaking on the state of the coon fez titiotetl Lend came, who says, Tilt NATIONAL REGISTER. " The way to cute sedition is to take away the matter." Poveriy and dismiss were the matter of sedition, and had Parlia ment endeavoured take away these distresses ? Had it nut supported the Government in their efforts to impose several re• etrictive laws, some of winch broke down the bulwarks of the Constitution,? Coercion had been the policy for years pan. Little attention heel been paid to the real wants and grievances of the Peonle. Doe Session, indeed, hope was entertained that. ' attention would be paid to, the question of purity of electioer and the burthens of the people. but unfortunately that hope was destroyed. The Session penal over, and aa the disgrace of Go vernnient and Parliament, it closed with laying on the main ing people three indiums of taxes. In the course of this year the distresses increased. They had a starving population la many of the working district.. Could it,tben be surprising that ex cesses should he committed Gook). it be a matter of surprise that meetings should take place to. promote reform in Parlia ment. A Meeting took place at Manchester, when dreadful misfortunes happened. He rigrittedithat in the.Speceli no allu 'non had been made to inquire into thonaevents. He did not support or sanction what was termed Radical Iltsferrn ; at the sante time, God forbid he should prevent the people from meet ing to express their sentiments, and endeavour to obtain a enure. . perfect state of represenstion. The scene which occurred at Manchester, on the 16th of August. was. dearly disgusting. and the Noble Earl expressed a hope that snob another transaction might never disgrace a free country. The melancholy events of that day had produced midi cuntlicting untimely; but. in his Tanion, there was a prima facie case against the Magittrates ? he question would be, whether the meeting was i 1141), and that forcible means for its suppression were justified. When the day arrived for inquiry, it would be a question whether the means resorted to by the Magistrates were not illegal. To justify themselves, they must prove that nothing but. the force they employed until preserve the peace. "if they cannot make out that. then I say all the bloodshed rests on their guilty heads. and thatieis the duty of emliament to wipe away the guilty .stain. 1 am ready to leave the whole of the tnumeations of that melan choly day until the question can be brought before. Parliament; but there is a line of policy pursued by Goveinmeot on then:me sion which I cannot now WWI aver." He did not wish to pre judge a question which was to come before a Court of Law, but was turptieed :shear of extra-judicial conduct from those who recommended the Prince Regent to give thanes to the Magistrates and Yeomanry for the prompt manner in which they acted.— Lord Grey then advertsd to the answer given to the City Ad dress. The Citizens were chastised. as it were..tor ignorance ofn the transactions. If they were to talk of prejudging a question, what should they say of the conduct of the Noble Viscount and his-Colleagues, who had not only approved of the conduct of the Magistrates and Yeomen before they could obtain comet infer. matron,. but on the evidence which they ,received from those Magistrates, they bestowed thanks and commendation equal to any given tin conitiest over a foreign enemy? No.sympathy was expressed for the mating victims. Was it not is duty. in ad vising the. Crown to exercise its high prerogative. to inetitute enquiry into all the causes which led to intetruptionuf the public peace ? That duty was imposed on them, and the answer given to the City of London was unjust. If there had been can abusrof the Magisterial authosity, it was the duty of the Executive Go vernment to prevent a repetition of hat breach of duty. Had they never hail proceedings extra-judicial? They had known inquiries going on in Parliament while men were under trial for Pistil Treason. It was shocking to =ninon sense to tell the people that repass would be published and trials take place, after offences were comitainciL Inquiry should have been instituted long since.. After they hail been afflicted they were told an exa mination could not be had because it was extrn i judicial. They might have recourse to justice, but Parliament could do nothing for them. War that the mode in which the sieferinge of the people ought to be treated i Adverting to the meeting in Yotk. shire, lie characterised it as large, respectable, moderate. and constitutional. They pronounced no improper opinions, and yet. for presiding at such a meeting his Noble Friend was dismissed thou] throSm of Lord Lieutenant a the county. Loid Grey stated the amiable qualities of Lail Fitz william, and relive sensed him to be a man who of all others was the 1110 A prOpIT to stand forward as a mediator between Government and the public. He for one could never have supplied the government were weak enough to resort to such a proceeding— tbr what was it but saying, tiny individual, however high in rank, who shall say one word against us, shall be turned oet, of office? It was indixd perseverance in a system of coercion. Having de precated the proposition to. rsise so additional miliimy force of !Moe men, he ob emit. thauthis country was fast approaching ' the state and condition of. frelaniL Terms in a state of sup pressed discontent, which would break out in violence. AGo vernment which rested on the sword could never be free ^ and if onceenslavel, once enslaved, farewel the most sacred institutions. W hat had given commercial advantage, military skill. and b r avery in ou r fleets and armies? What but the tarred spirit of freedom, the knowledge that we enjoy our rights and privileges. He appealed to the Noble Duke, whether the free spirit of Englishmen had not extricated him from danger. Take away the spirit of free dom from the people. and they have no longer a country—all is lost. The Noble Earl concluded by moving, as an amendment, a counter address, in which he proposed to enter into inquiry respecting the state of the country. and , particularly into teem , acurios itt Manchester on the 16th of August, with other pro. ceeilings,.whith might prove to the people of England. that Parliament were the true goardiens of the liberties of the country. Lord Viscount Sa!DMOUTH mid, lie rose in consequence of the nemner in which the Noble Earl had spoken of measures which attached exclusively to liiinadf. He made I • self sab jeet at the same time to all the responsibility of these measure..• With respect to the wintery force, it was known to the Noble Lords that, notwithstanding the military retrenchmenta bad been made, that.the military force was now . .astifileient.—" The Prince Heim: had minimoned Parliament to increasf, the army, and lay before them evidence on which they could act for the benefit of the country. In some instances laws which were weak required to be improved.—The transactions of Man chester next came under the Noble Viscount. consideration.— He stated that th., twelve inagistratcs. appointed by the County magistrates of Laneresirire, were men of high character. They were appointed for the pnrpose solely othetending at alma:lister, with a view to contribute to the preservation of the public perces Mr. Hay the chairman, and Mr. Norris were stipendiary magis trates, nominated by the Chancellor of die Duchy of Lancaster, The conduct of those perams had been subject to tune misrepre sentation than ever had been known upon any public event.. It always had been the policy of Government to protect the otagis• 'rates, but independent or that policy. the magistrates of hien cheater were entitled to protection. The Nabla Viseoum stated. hat on the day after the Manchester tumult the inahistrate.s cease to town to give inthrmation touching the events ehich had hap peneel•- They were inatutineil befute the. Privy Council and Law (Micas. The result wa• an opinion nn the ;set of the law officers. th at they bud att ain legitliy. The meeting wits held to be illegal. The caste of cruelty ileeneeil to the public. had [e'en negatival. (llear. hear.) At dm *Me 1•411t1 the excesses coon milted on indivelnais in Manchester and elsewhere, who belong. ed to the police, never been minuet. A constable 'swirl !Lowy!l was sto:!ed ti death in Mane:to-ter. sit,! another Whale nearly deprived of 'if:. .set a single life, it appeared, had been lost at Manchester, in cen-cqui ]set of the blows of the Yeomanry Cavalry.. Too regimeut at !e q. con:meted thous:has immet perlY, and :he elm evtil to them was Cie resith of prom* estaelished sty eel .:151 they had eeserved thanks Time leub.e Viscount adv•lictl to the **AS! of Eitel Fit:a deem, and observed, that the letter if the Noble Earl, and hi, conduct at the Yorkshire aleVinZ 3 left no To= to doubt that all confidence NOY. f 8 between him and the Government was at an entl. lie lett the subject with that (k•clany ion. and concluded with ( 6 w-tying, that l'ArliAtner.t was called upon to provide 'a remedy fur the present state of the country. The Noble Earl had recommended a . but their Lordships would doubutts use their own views of the subject. If the Noble Eatl.prisided in his amendment lie should oppose it. Lords Erskine. King. Lanulowne..and Caernarvon, sp o k e j eL favour oi the amendment. _ Louis Carythrt.lon. Liverpool. the fluke of . and %larquis otlittekinghant. in support of the Atltlrms pn.iportbl by. Alint o ters—on a divulon there appeared. Nan Conetntapresent Proxies 3B Contents present .... 31 3 • Majority fu* Ministers . NEON ESDAY, NOV. ?3. PRESENTATION or THE AIDDRF.B%. The illtuse met thistles at one o'clock, pursuant to atlioinn. mine, (or the purpose of presenting the Address voted by the - Lords to his Royal 14 ighneg the.Pdnee Regent, in answ er to his must gracious speech... :low after the Lord Chancellor had taken,bis.seat. the Earl of Shaftesbury, on the motion oldie Earl of.Livespoul. was reelected to the office of Chairman of Committees- Twa.Reports relating to Appeals were then received, and laid• 'on the Table. The 10110 CHANCELLOR, at two.o'clock intimated 'hit i t was t i me to pro t aed rith the Address, and consequently Ow following Lords entered their carriages :—The Lord Cianceller. the Archbishop of Canterbury. Earl Ala:leers (the mover of t: Address). Lord Chu:shill (the second), the Earl of Liverpool. Coe Earl of dludtesbury, the Bishop of Landsat; and other Lott!, Spiritual. The procession returned Irons Carlton House about tour o'clock, when the Peers adjourned till to-morrow. The Prince Regent's Asawer to Address will be repor“d to the House to-morrow. . THURSDAY,. NOVEMBLa The Howe assembled ut four o'clock. The LORD CHANCELLOR laid before the House thr Prince Regent's most gracious Answer to the Address presented to his Royal Highness 7evetday. OF THE COUNTRY. Earl BATHURST laid on the table, by command of hid Royal Highness the Prince Regent, papers similar to those presented to the House of Commons last night by lord Ca Ale. reagh. In answer to a question across the table, the Earl of LIVER row. said, it was intended to introduce bills to-morrow night founded on these papers, which might be read a first titne, and perhaps Alonday night wutsW be a tit time to appoint fur tliwus.ind ; them. Th e Nraigui, of LANspotWN asked, whether it was inten ded to submit any specific motion with a view to the eramint dun of :hese papers, or to refer them to the con.idtratiun or a Select Committee. The 4 liarl of 1.1 VI.: RPOOL said. that the •papers thentoclve, would disclose a sufficient body of evidence, and theretime it ww, not the intention coappointA Select Committee, nor to take any expres. measure for their examination. The Alarquis of LANSDOWN then gave notice, that he would move on Tuetlay next foe • Couunittee on the State of the Nation. The Karl o 6 LAUI)LIRDALE moved, .that there be laid on the table an account of the total amount of the Revenue for the yew" 1817, Nis. and Int% respectively, distinguishing the pnalizee of the ConsWitlatnd Fund, the Customs, and the FL venue ia each moaner; and also of the net produce of the 'raze; fur the year t. 919, in the quarter ending the 10th October.—Or. dercd.—The Howe then adjourned. R I 1) - Al". NOV. K. The HOLISC met at 4 o'clock. but there was no business befofe their Lordships ; and without any thing having occurred, they at 5 o'clo:k adjourned to Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. TUESDAY. NOV. T 3. The Ilmise met at two Wow k, and were sununoned by the Usher .sf.the Black land to attend the house of Peers to hear the Speed' from the throne. (for which sec Lords.) Upon their re turn they adjourned till four, when the SPEAKER took the Chair. ADDRESS TO THE PRIMOE REOENT. The llonuurable SOUPitS fur Hertford.. moved the Address, which was au echo of the Speech from the throne. Mr. CUST tecondeil it. The SPEAKER having read the Address. Mr. TIERN EY rose. (The House was uncommonly full now.) He said. on ordinary occasions lie might not have felt it ;necessary to rise. Ile understootl that many aasereions made to day were to be proved by documents; hut nevertheless he felt it his duty to trouble the !louse with an Amendment. He thought not a moment ought to be loseln presenting to the Regent a state ment of what were their real selaiments, not a mere fornial ad dress. He deplored the lamentable condition to which the Country was redact,' ; and lie dunce:eel arm much as any matt could any pregresl that infidelity might have made. Ile was, however, glad that the !ayes had bee &found sufficient to pt. down the in fidel. (Bear. hear.) Regarding the muss tit eta. pm,* they retnained untainted ; they were mote mord ..ntl pleas that) any people on the face of the earth. As to the seditiniu , 11,,t1 treasons of the country, or rather l.); certain districts, he bel•eved that no thiag but a revere and rigid exertion of the Magistracy WAS ,requeed to put them down. if. there were general disaffitetion. what law; could check it ? But the real cause of all the difficulty was the pressure of taxation—the rople in truth were ever taxed —((.cud clicets.).—He had poinual out these things in vaita.— Millions had followed millions. The people raw that the state of representation was nut beneficial to il , em—(Continued chetr • ing.) He meant not the visionary system of the Radical , , for all things mast have a name, but the people believed most extensieely that thane must be Ileform ; (Hear, hear). and he thought they were right. Tic House was the guardian of the public purse ; if the ',Wine purse were abuses(, who could the people blame but those guardians? lt' the people's money were al% ays stprentlercd--.11 armies were granted in vain, as well as new laws and new taxes—if trade were stagnant. and. distrtsa every where seen ; was it surprising that the House should be complained of—that the i•oople should not have all the desired eunlielvtice in that House of Countions. But whit the II ialicals he wauld hold tin quarter ; his plans were not their's.— faciet :were visionary ar..l dangerous, and their partizans at tacked the opl•aaecits of Government in that House as vehe mently 34 Ministers, and he believed the:: were indebted to much of their sautity in cansequeace of so tielmiely managing their vituperatims. But he was not t' tatted at the Itaa'.4tal strength. Litt he did fell alarmed at those circumstances which were preso- ing heavile on tli ptnsperity of the country. And he telt alarmed rd Lir system who would set his face against all Reform. Education bad improved the population, and persons were to be found at the carte of every street who could :tot believe that every thing which exited eras wise, good, and excellent; and if' they thought of governing by force, then indeed WAS the country on the verge of a theadful crisis. Such a system , would be fou:id wrung ; they who ti-ged it would ulti [ mately fail: he wa,.. , ' sure of this. (Hear.) : a ,he Address lie was surprised no allusion was made to the final 16th of August; and he contended, that the meeting world have passe d off quietly Lad there nut been the hiterruEtiou of the Civil and Yemullna