The National Register. — London, England, 1819-06-14 00:00:00

. s. . If 6• 7010 NA' 2nilperial 13arlianunt. Horse. or !Awns. 3141 K J 111141.: 7._ F.arl C. 117. - presented seventi Petitions from Protestant Dis senters in Kent and Essex, busying edict under certain provi. sioas of the Atairioge Act, altich they cannot reconcile to their rOntiour tenets. _ _ 7 • • I he harl cf At.ttratttetor. presented a similar nation flow. and OM! from Jetvio,trect, in the City of London._ I .Ord AUCKLAND moved, that a NitsiAge be alit to the COM 'mons. retposting a ropy of the Report of the Committee on the In.alrent Debtor.' Act be corutuunientral to that Honse.—Or dcred. ti,veral Bills on the table were forwazded in their mpcctive stages, and the Ilous: adjourned. ÜBSDAY. .11' VI: K. A person from the Post-office presented an strount of the coin and bullion imported in his Majesty', packets frciii info to the present date. Mr. BIiOGDEN and others, from the Corimons, rebniud the Churches Benefices Bill agreed to. and M-. Blackburn and others brought up the Iri►li Fever llo,pkal Bill, and sareral private Bilk, all of which were read a first time. On the motion of land CARSAIIVON, that part of ►he order en the Barnsmple Election Bill which, tastes to the hearing of eauesel waa discharged. The onto for the atter.danee of the Judge, on I einl Lauder dale's question, was, as we understood, postitotied from Fiiday to Tuesday. The Colonial Ordination Bill was ma a second time, and ordered to be eolumitted.--Aejoorned. WEDNXMAY. n•sr 9. After bearing evicieuceai in4ltin;B:;ti.bi;tple Bribery Bill, the llou sc atijourneth _ THURSDAY, Jr 10. MARQUIS Or CAMDEN . 9 GIFT T O THE rest:lQ—The Karl of lavearoox. rising to move the second reading of the Bill which applies the interest the Marquis of Camden had as Teller of the Exchequer, to the public ieteiCe, telt it his duty to offer a t sw observations to the House upon the iinpottant sacrifices made by t'de Noble Marquis. The Tellership of the Exchequer was originally given by the ;man. vier . citing its prerogative. as a reward for eminent services rendered by the Noble Angola's tlk?, in his great judicial situation.— This created a vested interest, and it was without doubt a free hold interest when the Noble Marquis gave it up to the yttblic.— The sutu sacrificed in this way by the Noble :Marquis would not be over-valued at tlitl.ll.lol. The Earl of I.iverlwul having done jittice to the liberality of the Marquis Camden, paid a simi lar tribute to the kite Marquis of Buckingham, who devoted not less than 40,00146 to the public service. The Noble Earl CMS clusled by moving the Bill be read a second time. The Marquis of LASISDOTNE expressed his sense of the pro. priety of the act, which he said would raise the Noble Marquis high in public estimation.—lt was a noble act. eminently useful. as tending to relieve the public burden, and also useful as pros ing • disinterested feeling on the part an public man. He concurred in what had fallen from the Earl of Liverpool, with regard to another Noble Marquis. There could be but one aentiment on the subject throughout the country. The Bill was read a second time. Ross ss CATHOLIC Qti C• 110 —Furl flaw, rose, on the •tds.r. of the day, to propose Ilse second rradilie of his lull to aitiogate the two deckle:Lilian' iequised by the Act. of 11w 2:Ali lour atali of t harks the Second. *l he 251 h (Ilio. Test A , ) if the coalition to lattice—Mae 30th, the coudition lit i.e tit in lire House of Parliament. Tile Noble Fad ad. vented to the admissicias in that house 11,1 former debate., with respect to the strict moral tiocolwt of the Boman lies, their loyalty, and devatiou 10 the interests of the country. The only oltiretiosi to their chains~ wets an :dirge,' want of securities. Their ;Wino% Idgesuelit of she Pope's supremacy was held to be subversives of the nllre lauce they Si lec: to a Prole-stout Ellie; on that grouad :dime their claims had beets resisted. und the Noble Larl added, Sluff in Wing ing In.rote the liouse it hot to abrogate two &grading de ttttt ,he hail col e , tpec trd oppo,il . . fie was, how ever, told the measure would Is opposed; he knew not w hy it wos his duly, not illotatiding, 50 Male the ground 11141 which he supported the Bid. Lord they then iieseritied the fey -ii,h Laid: of the public mind when the statutes of the tithe twit 3,:t la of ebaides 11, were passed. Those statutes reduced the koniao Catholics to abject flowery, in conse quence of strlie valansity which the public believed they in tended in toting u; the country —they had mace diselaim• ed all principles So the safety of the State, and has. imt eaten 11%.11 f:1111 . 4 . 6 of obedience, those rrstrictive tests should I e destroyed. The Noble Earl entered into u long train of then' giver arguinews in defence of the doctrine of traiisubstantiati tttt t the invocation of Saint's and Muss, con tending that it was nut idolatry. as stated in the declaration acquired by the Statute. He concluded by moving the second Trading of the Bill. The Bishop of :sin OW ICH in seconding the motion said, it was well known to be his topinion, that a capacity to hold public office, and to di-cloud public trusts, should be extended to all whose principles were not inconsistent with the social and moral interests of the community. Five millions of men ought not to be proscribed. because some persons thought they utideritocal the tenets of the !loutish Chunk better than the llomish church itself. The nature of those tenets could not be accurately under • stood, but from the statements of the members of that citureh.— They had the affirt»atioint of living inen distinctly disclaiming the oil principles that Lad been imputed to their faith. On the general tinpohey of our exclusive laws, one of which it was the object of the gill to remove, it would not become a clergyman to dilate, after the able manner in which it had been pointed out oit this and on former occasions. With respect so the religious kart of the question, he must say. that he never heard the decla ration against transubstantiation made without a sentiment of self-reproach. In compliance with law it was made and requited, in sprte of the misgivings which it might eeeasioa. The law, it was said hal been long established, but injustice could derive no defence from its antiquity. lie could out approve of making the title to office depend upon principles and tenets which mt. pected only the abstract of omits of religion. When precautions against the Catholics were no longer justified by necessity, it was the duty of Parliament to repeal them. The Archbishop of C /0401' Ett sum T as a Protestant would not quarrel with a Roman Catholic on the ground of his religious principlenhemight kunint his errors, but be was at the same time disposed to reverence his inte4rity. Rut in this dangerous age of experiineots, when so mark innovatioNs had been made—when, in a neighbouring country, month y, social rosier, and good go. veroment, had been overthrown, and even Christianity itself annihilated, should this nation, in the pursuit of political cape. ninent„ Throw away the blessing of a constitution which had saved us from so many perils? tie was aware that individuals, and sometiales states, did not ct tdl th eths ile, o f the im i e ,, mag y s which belong to experience; but be hoped that their Lordships would no• lose sight of the elaegeri we had passed, mid that they would hesitate before they exposed this country to new and don. pions experiments. Foe all these reasons, he felt it his duty to oppose the noble Lord. I he Lord I Vistortaur then put the quecitok, that It, hill abuald by read a see 1 time. he Karl of Ideerpool In mil peflod of hit hid itappnited the sostaatiaace uI the tees act.; and he 'WI tweed theta seem/try Ito N \‘ 'AL ItdISTER. the preservation of oar civil *ad religious liberties. Ile woeld cheer. , tatty admit, 11. ot it .A 0 ..:11t and pi oper to concider the feelings of Car mot, 1.1 11 11 . 1 1 It, ...odd say that it was the ditty It their laWrivhips to consi.ler Man What nright bo the feeliugs•lf the lb mammas, b , igt.) Ile did ad, , th.ll v. hen a proposition was brutQ,lit to that llnthe to repeal wale ni the most ancient tests its this comae), he 4,04 1,414 We what 11e11.111 C 0411.1 at lee how adoptiag a 111C•11.111 . ! jai 111iX111 1111 such 1/011111, hat w hteh cuold do uo gaud whatever. Le hail Ihnr hi elly N.,IWi 1... obiecti .... • to like Maim., and hr *honk' nu* Olt dawn w lib giving it hie i.e: tot r. 1.... d Grossiiir said. Owe was so Utwr Is the conatry to enable the King to 101!nim, reit:halo iNmalliti MI any man. If a mill anbmillt..l I In that obemeocc the laws kid elven to temPoriii sob. Lets, that was the oinolit nee which the Hutu 111 r. at:mires pootesse.l. Ile wished their Lordships 1.. be cook/tent 411.1 I .It. They all Nor...std tl.ai It was improper to exclude Catholics me t eN t lookb,ll,4, hxt thougM that Owl e was saute civil Mittel cote of ophiluis which tin eaten..l danger and rein to the state, if eve.. one liereditaty Veer should sit among their Lordships V. his the title 4.11100,1 by the o/ hie ancertm, shoold he happen tu believe In purgatory, or it I.lle me tuber 'tumid he added to the Hoak ot (*ominous kocuintwerd with orth the lobelia tionsubstaidiation. (.4 kink). rlie Lord Clicsegiffur 'rimed at a peal kugth, that from the lime of Charles 11 . to the time or who hail sanetimimi die act to (hark* 11., it hid hero thought necessary, for the prt.serv.stion of our Mt 51 and orligitois liberties, that Papists should nut be allowed to sit In ParliAmmtl; mill the couseqiience sae, that tome tett was abso lutely necessary by Witch it might be arcestained whether a man .at a CALI.OII4, or a Prot.-stmts. Now, it wee obvious, that Ono could 4.01) he dune by some oath cleci:i awry of religious opinions. Ile thesetule called spun the as it hail any regard to the conltilUtion l'husch and st.ite, as settled by lb* ,gitaboos revolution, and mainly preserved by this van 0411, not to c ttttt ntit the usiparolottable mime at; 101 CM paste.ny of traokillittiug to them their citil awl religious bustles Impelled or rutlesagered. otkedrs). Earl of Mier 1 , 4 sulphated the mutton. I all liothograt war Cumpelloll 10 diner truss his Noble friend who had inn so down. . . . . Lail Lori, srphert at err/dimwit, awl with vary slat autusEtiou. lloost them aiv..lra— Cotiteuto, 414—Proxies, 33 as Nou•Cuotaltis, Ta—Proxici, XS 141 Majority agaltist the hill, so Atijoarceti at It tech.!, EMID4T. JUKE II• Sir H. PA R NELL sold wheel, brought from the Commons the bieniti Hridge Bill. The Wok Fever Hospital Bill, and Colonial Ordination Bills. were read a third time and ;osed 111nryto6 C..sudeur* Tellerbhip (tin west through a Com. mill•••. Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. MCINDAV. 11.: NE 7. OPPIRISSIVE WILSON presented a Petition from an individual, named Bressington tar beiere), late of Goodman.' Fields, and nu* of Great Peter-►treet, com plaining of the ruinous tendency of the present state of excessive taxation, and praying that the lluuae would pioase before it increased the people's burdens. The lion. NI ember repeated his declination. twit lie would not consent to any additional taxes, till there was some redress of grievances—till there was more sympathy before the Parliament and the People; and he added, that he would radar lay his head upon the bltxk Join agree to the Chancellor of the Exchequer's Resolutions, or to one shilling of Additional tax. (Hear, hear.) Petition read, and ordered to be printed. Lord Caallllol7ll4 brought in the Bill for the more effectually prevention of poaching.- Read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday sc'nnight. FINANCES—THE NEW TAXES. The Cu Auer st.oa of the EXCIICQU El Übe !lOUSe having resolved itrelf into a Committee,) brought forward his series of Violence Resolutions, read on a former day pro forma,com biding with expressing the opinion t h at it was expedient to increase the Taxes to thee/want of Three Alillions. The Right lion. Gen tleman said, that at, there was a deficiency in the inmate of the country, as amperes! with its expenditure, previooly to entering into a detail of the means by which such deficiency could be met, it was obvious, that a preliminary discussion on the general question could not but lie advantageous and convenient to the Home. That was the view with which he had proposes] the Resolutions now to be decided upon. His Resolutions were founded on the content, of the Finance Relents ; the fat. ,:sserted and sums stated were draws from such source. Having detailed those Resolution% winch are already failybefore the public, the Right lion. Gentleman, adverting to the first Rceolution, which states the defitiency of 118.4 - mmog. by the repeal of der Property and other taxes, observed, that he amain not now complain of the decision of the House on that occasion. lie hoped it had been productive of good—but at the same time he felt himself hound to say that the credit of the country could not be considered as placed on a sound footing, as promising safety to the ritate s exixpt there was a surplus beyond the Expenditure—a real Sinking Fund. Had the Property Tax been continued on the modified plan proposed by hint in 1615, the debt of the country would aothave bee.) increa.ed 18,000,0( Pol. nor woakl the debts have been contracted with the Hank. The unappropriated War Taxes no longer tem:tined, and it was evi dent t h at the time had now arrived when the Parliament was required to Jetemtine on a more permanent and regular system of meeting the expenditure of the country ; and as there was a deficiency, the question was, what amount ought to be raised to meet it. &calming to the 4th and 11th Finance Reports of the last Session, and the first Report of the present Session, it appeared that ter the year coiling January, tart. the Expenditure was 54,...10,0(01.—the Income 31,300,0001. leaving a deficiency of 2,900,0001. For the nest year the Expenditure was 5t9tr1.0001. —the Income 52.300,1 01.—lexving is deficiency of 600,0e01. For the current year the Expenditure was taken at 51,000,0001. —the Income was 54,000,0001.—the surplus was 1,900,0001. This surplus would not enable the country to provide for such an extinction of ifs debt as would enable it to meet further emergencies; the surplus of two millions only, it was obvious, would plant the country under such restraints as to prevent the Government front attending effectually to any pressing wants; then was it not ads istable to provide fur such an extinction of the public debt as would enable the country to be prepared for the future? Ile assumed that it was. The surplus was only 4,ooo,regil. but it must be 3.000,0001. to render the Sinking Fund a real Sinking Fund, and effectually to provide for the maintenance of public credit. Such a surilus would afford the means of attending to the prosperity of the country, and that end would be dilated by increasing the burdens of the people to the amount of 3,0111,00b1. (Hear.) He should mention the amounts, and the items DOW by which he should propose to raise such sum; the mode of increasing the duties, &c. he should reserve for de tail in the Commhtec of Ways and Means. Without going into any examination of the particular iten:s, all he desired of the Howie to determine on the present occasion teaS, whether the House would agree to the nicking of a great effort to sustain public credit. That was the great question ; the articles to be taxed, comparatively speakiw, were of small importance. (Hear.) Having thus disposedof such general detail us he deemed essen tea) to his main ariaintcet and resolution, lie would proceed to enumerate the stitches int which he proposed that there should be imposed talditionil duties. The first was, foreign wool the in. crease of duty en the importation of which, he calculated, would produixt 300,0001. Fiont the consolidation of the Customs vio.oul. more. The re:twining artieles came tinder the head of Cruise. The must prothinrot artiti was that of Male. (Hear.) He was not about topropose the renewal of the duty taken of after the war, but a considerable part of it. That duty had beets abandoned or. the n presentations that it would contribute to the int provena nt of r ieultuie, and that it w ould tend to reduce the prier of hoer, an article of such essettial use to the poor; but he was sorry to say that the eapectatione held forth in such reprc. t \ `‘..., \\\ 4 . ` 4 I .',it7rlEl.. _____. completely failed. The quantity of Malt on which the duty had been paid had considerably diminished. Where it was, with the additional duty, in 18'3, et .ton,ooo b tu b e i, ; i t was the followingyear only 17.0 , )0.1100 bushels—to be sure that. was a bad Mak eras htw, according to the result of three years' experience, the iliniimitian in the Malt Duty Lad letoened the quantity of Mat. Titti4 agriculture had not experienced reha:'„ As to the price ut Beer, after the duty was taken off, the price was lowered. but only fur a ;cry short tune ; it was almost blemish ately niised to its former price, at which it lead since continual. remaining as high as when the heaviest Malt Ditty existell. Thus the promised rthif to the poorer classes had nut been experienced. The additional duty he now proposed to name was about half the amount of what had been taken of)'; and he hoped to be able to 5118 W, that. notwitlistandinl such advance of duty. any rise in the price of Leer would not only be uncalled for, but unjustifiable. (Hear, bear! and some laughter.) Aceswiling to a Itepon of last you (of the Brewers' Cotninittee), an intelligent Gentleman, Mr. Barclay. stated, that in May, 1818, be averaged Malt at and lltqw at 241. per hundred weight ; at present the House could not take Malt at a higher price than Gss. not Hops higher than 81. 12s. per hundred weight. The brewing a quarter of Malt, last year, was estimated at !el. 11;s. Bd.—this year it could not be estimated above CA. 17,.4t1.; the additional duty would impose an increased expenee of 2s. 4d. ; and that would leave 51't. a quarter to the brewer beyond what be enjoyed lust year; and where then would be the call for an advance tie the price of beer to the consumer? This additional duty he calculated would produce e too,tmeol. The articles here named were susceptible of adulteration; but, as they were under die Excise, Ramis were more easy of detection than were adulterations in articles sub jected only to the Customs. The articles on which he proposed to lay additional duty, were--'l'obaccca—Coffee and ('ocoa—Tex and Pepper...4Clieering and much laughter.) By Tobacco. he expected to get an increase of 300,0001. ; and according to new cakulations and mode of collecting the duty. he believed that fur some time Tobacco could be wild niuch cheaper to the public. —(Continued laughter ) By an increase of 4 per cent. on Coal*, he calculate) on getting 13u.tatol.—Froni Pepper, by rai,ing the duty iron; 96 to a round luo (a laugh), he tdought there would be an addition of 100,0001. And he expected that these increases would produce little or no variation in the quantities consumed. One article only remained for hint to mention, namely. Spirits distilled in England: and by an additional duty on that he expected to raise stio,uftol. beyond die pr, sent produce. The whole amount of these increased duties lie edimated would be 3.1,90.0tai1. and therefore, calculating on some small deficiencies. lie might fairly ealeulate on tin improvement of die Revenue to the extent of 30.10,0001. The items, on recapitulation, would stand thus:— Consolidation of the Customs . . 1.5nn,n00 Exciscas-Malt (Is fol. per Bush. additional) 1,401411,11 British Spirits . . . . . 500.1x0 Tobacco ..... . enn,evax Coflee and Cocoa 120,1100 Tel 130,000 Pepper 100,010 The Right lion. Gentleman having terminated this detail. said he could not hut impress on the I louse that the increase of the public burdens was indispensably to uphold the dignity of the Country by the maintenance of public credit. They had now to determine on a permanent peace establishment. They knew the amount of the expenditure ; and he could rot calculate on any material reductions. lle concluded with moving the Reso lutions already before the public. Mr. Tien NE r rose. In the few observations he had to make to the llouse, he would confine himself to the abstract question of the three millions of new taxes in the fittl: year of peace. It seemed to him. that after all the vapouring about the Sinking Fund, after all that had been said about its inviolability and the confidence which its existence inspired in the public creditor, we now had this inehincholy fact—that Ministeis were driven to a direct breach of faith with that public creditor. All the rase ranees which he had formerly made. were now, it seamed. het sight of. and the public were to fbrget them as if they had never been made. The Sinking Fund, after all. is in fact only two millions, and Parliament must make it s.tesaooni. in order to make some provision for the future payment of the debt. Now we had a debt of itumoon,ooes. and even at one per cent. (the usual allowance on loans) it would require a Sinking Fund of bon,ollo.oooe. to am to meet that on Jut old principle. So that now• in the fifth year of peace • we were to go on with a debt of noo m ,onoail. with a Sinking Fend Of 5.000,ti0u1. ; and to supply that and make both ends meet Mr the present, we were to have 3.000.nu01. of new taxes and this se were told to look to, as our permanent peace establishment. (Hear.) The Right Honorable Gentleman's language was this—•• Here I come again with my old proud prancing periods; give me but 3.000,0001. more, aged, , depend upon it. all shall be right. happy. and agreeable for the future." Before a tingle farthing of such a sum was granted to. him, be thought that be (the Chancellor of the Excheyuer) ought to state it hat he had done with the many millions which had previously been voted. He had indeed promised the nation. that it should have indemnity for the past, and security Be the future ; but it was a strange indemnity, and • still stranger Se curity. to infix upon it 3,000,n001. of additional taxes in the fifth year of peace. (Hear.) Was it too much, under such circum stances, for him to ask the House to pause before they determined —to deliberate before they resolved ? Was it too much for hint to demaail or them to exam ne how this sum had been advanced. and that had been withdrawn ? The last ptuposition of the Right Hon. Gent. was this—'• that it is expedient now to hicrease the income of the country by the imposition of taxes to the amount of 3.000.0001. per annum. ' The Right lion. Gent. must forgive him if he raised his voice most loudly ag ainst these 3,00001001 of new taxes. (Hear, hear.) The lion . Gentleman then desired the I louse to look at the situation in which the country was placed. He had himself admitted the complete stagnation of our trade ; whether lie admitted it or no was very immaterial. since nothing_ was to be heard, from one end of the country to the other, except the distress in which all classes of our manufacturer/1 were plunged. The petitions which the Howw had received from the tigrieultte tpl part of the community clearly proved that their fortunes were not in a much tr.ore flourishing gate than those of the manufac turer ; whilst the complaints which they were now daily end hourly receiving regarding the heaviness of the poor-rates. showed that the evil eves not confined to particular distticts, but spread far and wide throughout the whole nation ; and yet what was the answer that the House was making every t 4 hoto3 to there ex pressions of misery and distress? Why the amuse r was, ••'s%c will impose upon you 34100.000 h of additional taxes." (Hear.) Were the people of England stocks or stones, that they cot, id he expected to induce such treatment ? (Ile:tr.) It might there fore he a fair question fur any one to auk. in what way were our finances to be at Mu put upon a fair footing ? To such a question he would reply , that there wire only three niethetis—a constant application to the Sinking Fund ; an imposition of new taxes; or, what he thought better tl an Loth, a retinae and re trenchment in every department of State. (Ilean) He main. reined that the House had no right to impose a single tax upon the country, until it had shown that a reductionhad teen trade in every establishment which could be teduced. (Loud cries of hear ;) and that it had no right to goad and irritate the people by new imposts, until it had shoe n them that there was no other risource to which it could apply consistently' with either the safety or the credit of the ration. (Hear.) But he supposed that sonic. of the gentlemen on the opposite latielew would say to hint, I know you talk grandly on creamily ; hut can you part out ai: , / reductions by which a large rum can be saved to the peblic r He would reply to these interrogatoties. by answering, that he believed that such reductions might be wiled out ; and by ca pressing his firmconviction, that an a dministration which is ade economy their object might save at leave 1,000,(001. to the come •