The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-07-02 00:00:00

• 4 the laying on the table of 'llli a. ace; when there appeared— , 51 ; against it, 26.—blejo :L/GIOUS OPINIONS. purpose of presenting a peti of great importance. Define rreet an error which bad got r had void last night. He had eb:ication,:that he disapprove') lien, iu fatt,le.polv express at Sect to vihreli an li:monrahre itterworth)" His acqnaintettee issentersonany of whew her it and virtuous men, he slioott ieure if he lia•I said 'sd. Ile et censures were always 'Troll g. wen more excited on the (icy, : by the intolerance disptare-ruy to spoke, he tool: the opoortun ro rep Lain • what he bad said.— an.:, he regretted that any pet- if I to arraign Lis conduct, and to he advocate of a person whose stn advocating, that if that pee ls-ice, he would long ago hero r them. He was well . couviovil lathe way Mr. Carlile bad ac d prejacfires was the hest means rUlflit them. He did hope that Id take the liberty of enileavoui- Se advocate of his opinions.— new called the attention of the ; persons,members of Chtimiste ►93 were ministers, among thin the House would agree were en )ect, such wi those of Dr. 'Evan;, Dr. Clarke, Mr. llorislay, Mr. whole a more importaat4 more in.like petition' uas nev..r pre. • recommended its carer pent_ adhered t.) the notion, that the favourable to the eliciti% of must admit thee the Christian • by holding it up as a syncora s a more dangetons enemy Co it elan who openly opposed it by ass of opinion that the course of late years was very astvisc.— aiove a Resolution to that eff t. Member declared that be hitt treed only from a sense of impw way private motives. tie in,v roeght opt I sited whether ft was signed by 1r confined bone particular sect?... at them were two - etgoeturel of of England. He bettered there .iterpool ; and perhaps the ttigtit fining) weald recognise some of hit le lied bees told that It wewsignett asses. II Said he had reason to know that etitiou were not unedited to any • eta attached to It the sitneteres• ad opposite seminude in religious was understood to tick Whether e ten stood apart from the, others? • toes of Me Clergymen were placed read, ant ordered to llempon this to bring forward the motion of e, respecting the free discussion of object was to obtain as admission, m was the rivilege of an Engtisb sial points of religion. 'Phil, at rivilege of the subject, derived to Coestitatiot . This wan atm (I. H.) had beeniedetated. From his ergb, be bad been led to appreciate toe, for there so maw's opinions ovltisid be kept dm pebtle peace. It raw a eauteury piactice arise In this osecutfollawere enw become fre e who Indulged in rellatees discos. writings, sr repabishitie certain n certainly were proseentioas •fot estrus works naterior to laid, but enlargement of the bemse mind,. knowledge, would have induced a the prosecutions of list century steed. Seeing the advantages then mull from free discussion. and the thrown upon religion by She obit. thought It a great inlastice to the y obstacle in the was of investM.4 thing which prevented discussion h. Tile greatest blessittzs Bowed a of religious opinions. • The He at of free diseuseiom By placing uirv, doubts were raised as to the lie held that they, as Membeisi ina, should follow the dictums of use force and wrseention against (rota ne. No human power could of men, or induce them to take was not the result of conviction . : is country very wisely, and credit its indulgence to those who dila bed faith. Jews, who altogether eligion, and Quakers, es well es dyed toleration. He wished to see of all descriptions removed, and 3 such a situation as that be could tatever religious opinions inquiry lead Irina to-prefer. Religion was cclusively between man and his astonishing bow one man could mother. for his peculiar opinions. Sew Tenement, there was not one d she 'infliction of pneishment for ► seilthaent. On the contrary, the r, when some of his ignorant foi. tenet, rebuked those persons and what they did. It was not by the relga of she gospel was to lit, ex it* way by contrary means, It applications of reasotaisg, and by ink. Were they thew to. revive the which the primitive Christians riot Ir immure in dusgeoat, tad Mite hose who Sought to 'stricture Mi t:rate with those sanedoiqd by tbi Lk of the community. • BM it was permitted to declare their opitaiocie the grounds of religious 'Belief, so 'themselves within the boatels of . lion. Fee his pert he thought it matter of this kind to draw Moline intemperance ream. 111111 *hi spa igbegls. Who,fer coul3 aleahl blaybessy ? fa Cho thee as poised describinj it• iefii blas daaw ot Oia jestragry. ' No tool priaaiple of gist Art. =p *Pi of William sod Macy, *de Y &wins of the Sely_Teistity. II morellos, than eat. ' after .lfhickcesupletely Cab traliat*ittbat Bp Hew tem it possible, thee, for whether he was coiratilipihise kik "rhi'ssitaiOref the ies r• ink • It was ariad . trj o.l)!lcniitc chived. bad b eight t• prumaig - yptr Psi of iles patrol atess of tin °or's-. Pi• Vent Ajtlet osee, and always acted I 1 u• • t on, aria - n . 04 would not meek iktindoias Ma% How could these Missionaries, *Wove labours were se much to be praised, be justified. who went forth to distant_ nations to expose tbe follies and absurdities of the modes of worship which prevailed in those remote places?— Would we apply one principle to our own case, and. six other to that of others? When we sent those mission. aries abroad, it wu with the intention that by exposing, the absurdities of the Modem and the Mahotuetan reli gions,they might prepare the 'Rinds of their hearers to receive the truths of Christianity, It washy diseusdon that they expected to prevail. Upon what pnucipla then were we prepared to debar others from putting forward those opinion., which they were convinced themselies were founded in truth ? Christianity had too firmly withstood the attacks of able and well informed enemies, to be in the least endangered by the writings of those ig norant and incapsble persons who openly assailed the Christian faith. There was no argument they coold use which was not before snore ably and forcibly urKed. His opinion was, Coat they who opposed discussion felt some distrust of the truth of that which they wished to screen from inquiry. The Honourable Gentle man then quoted passages from Talmoo. South, and Warburton, in which those eminent persons strongly advocated the propriety of free inpliry and discussion. Besides the wickedest* of punishing a man for religi 'one opinions, persecution defeated its owe object. The man who took the pens to put forth his doctrines mast be persuaded that he was right. To persecute each an in dividual, was not only a violation• of the liberty of the press, but it was putting fetters on the exertions of the saunas mind. With respect to punishing for indecent and,intempuste strictures, he would beg the Mouse to consider well the opinions of Dr. Gardner in answer to Woolaton, who had written a most indecent pamphlet against the Christian faith. The opinion of r f r, Lerdoer was, that the proper punishment of low and in lucent ri• baldry was contempt. If the punishment of tide person, continued that teamed. writer, be too great, public indig nation will be turned the other eray—and on the other hand. a small punishinenewill be a stimulus to proceed. This passage exactly applied to Carlile's publications. Those publications he most say were sesodslous. He never van sny of that individual's writing until he was called on to present his petition. He was then ledweed to take op some numbers of his Republican—Helmnd Mimeos:ocelot temporate discessions. But other parts of those 'ridings were so utterly low and disgusting, so revolting to the com mon sense and feelings of mankiel, that he wondered bow it could ever be thought by any one. that such a publication wee in any way dangerous. There was not a man capable of reading such things, that mild not find in every sentence, a complete antidote against the poisons which It might con vey. Wes it not then the most obvious coarse to let such publications pass unnoticed. As soon as the author was made the object of a prosecution, and condemned to a gaol. sympathy was excited in his *moor, and his writings were made known. Who would ever have beard of hlr.Csrble odd his writings, but for those impolitic prosecutions? He did not attechany blame to Government. The law oMcerp of the Crown spry properly ahstained from patting the law in force action so obscure an lodividral, knowing that by doing so they would be taking the most effectual steps toe wards raising him into notice. The Society for the Sup. pression of Vice..and the Bridge-street Associetion were chargeable with the whole Mane. It. was they that gave importance to Carlile. end supplied him *till' followers, un til at last these persons hear the sentence of a Court of Justice with a sort. of triumph, and assume the tone of martyrs. • All Cultic's efforts before his prose cation, could not get more than 500 copies of Paine's book off his hands. Atter that he sold 20,000. He actually a..ld 30,030 copies of that work. In like manner Cain and Lawrence's Lectures were recommended by persecetloo, to general attention, and were greedily in the bands of Providence to promoteinquiry —to produce bought up. Apia Cantle's Republkan, which sold but 2.000 a week, was raised to 13.003 copies a week by the prosecution of his wife. Time Hon. Member .tbse qioted the opieipes of Dr. Watson and Dr. Campbell in favour of fife Inquiry. There were so many strong reasons in fa- Nen of it, that he wondered how any society of person, could systematically set aboutehecking it. These societies had much to entree for. He my mein regretted that Jodi t Slushier gin' weight and respectability shoeld beledneed to lend themselves to any such system, which, after all, On but a cloak coder which, agents and secretaries carried on their own iuterestml purposes. .Toe Hon. Gentleman lastly quoted tmissige from a charge delivered by the Bishop of London, in July, IRV, to his Clergy. The passage in was that the oureveganeles of infidelity were means s argument to raise ap fresh advocates in the cause of truth. The lion. Member referred to the opioiene of Blackstoue. es to the impoliey of persecution. lie had said nothing of Atheism, nor did hetidisk ireecessary, Um conceived it to be on opinion bottite to the principles of civil society. In deed be never yet conversed with any men whom he consi dered to be en Atheist. If. did not think it possible that a human being 111 possession of his sense!, could ever come to the persuasion that there wee no such thing as t don or a first cause. The Hon. Member, after some few observa tions, moved the following resolution:—"Tint it is the opi- Lion of this House that free discussion is attended more benefit than injury, and that It is unjust to expose any. one to legal penalties on account of the expression of hit opinions in matters of religion." The motion basting been put from the Chair and se conded, Bk. WILBERFORCE proceeded to address th e Hops., but in a tome so low, as to be fur a considerable time in' audible in the Gallery. IVe at length understood the Hon. Member to defend the Constitutional Society and the Society for the Suppression of Vieein the course they had taken, and to maintain that both bodies were not only justified. but mach to be applauded for having ex erted themselves for the suppression of offences, which in every sense was contra boos°. mores. The Honourable DietUher proceeded to read extracts from some of the offensive publications alluded to, in one of which it was stated " that Christianity could be proved to be the grossest imposture, and as it had been for some time a, minis prop by which to support the monarchical principle, surprise was expressed that the hiairbag mind of neeeo bad not long since got rid of it . '' The Honoe-ablir Member (Mr. Hume) had quoted -several high and re spectable authorities. for the purpose of 'hewing that a great latitude ought to be allowed he all religious die cossions. No man was more ready than be (Mr. Wilber. force) was to allow each a latitude to its fullest extent ; but he felt drat io giving this allowsnee, a check ought to he imposed upon gross licentiousness and profane ribaldry. The Numerable Member had quoted tba writiops of several Divines; be (Mr. Wilkerforce) wad/ oppose to him the doctrines of Dr. Paley. a man of amerst liberal and enlightened mind. That Rev. Divine, speak ing of toleration, thus delivered himself: " Under the ides of religions toleration, 1 conclude the toleration of all books of serious argumentation; but I deem it no infringes meat of religious liberty to restrain the circulation of ri dicule, invective, and mockery, upon religious subjects ; be tau* this species of writing applies solely to the passions ; weakens time judgment, and contaminates the 'origin i lion of its readers; has no tendency wits:ever to assist either the investigation or the imp 'on of truth; on the eastracy i whilst it stay not to distinguish the charac ter or the aut hority of different religions. it destroys alike the indstence of all." He quoted this passage, for the Pura! of **Wing bow me th the Hon. Member had boos mistaken in his argument. Mach stress had been laid upowtho peouweiion of Carlile, bet was it not a well - Initurafact Pliat thsehop of that perso, had b.en crowded inside and siotside e day and night, for several months, in consequence of his having stiled it " The Temple of Res.: son. 4 He Was swore that tinsel pains were daily taken to prevent the public from being eovrepted by dueb doc trines, and he trusted that the Legislative we9ld pa or: brook in support of the efforts mede by private iildg 4 deals to give to the most humble classes of society and vi steeps Itducaterin. The Hon. Member next arleemapt to what had been said relit veto foreign missiinaaries,niki - 41% 'rHE the grossest wady igneinsset.t eadravoured to instil the principles Of Meistianity in fits isild'est and most for bearingswannee.Affer. a few otter reintirki, the Milton.] able Member concluded byobserving, that while he was., ready to allow the fullest and freest discussion upon rel.. gious questions; he was still determined to adhere tiv very admirable distiktion drawn iffy Paley bet Ween reli gions discussion and gross ribaldry and indecency of expression —(hear, hear.\ Mr. RICARDO had beard a considereble part of the speech of‘ the Honourable Member who had just set down, with a great deal of pleasure: be also confessed that another portion of tbe same addrest hld given him no inconsiderable pain. Some of the Honourable Gen tlemsn's arguments had stated distinctly, that no m*n bad, a right to dictate to another what religious doc- Irises be ought to entertain. No, the Honourable Mem ber for Bramber bail wholly disclaimed any particip thou in such bigotted notions; he professed himself a friend bathe toleration of all religious sentiments, if expressed with decency and discretion. It was undoubtedly true that Paley had made the exception which the Honour- Uhl Member for Bramber had taken—an objection on which that Honourable Gentleman had principally r - lied. • With respect to treating religious subjects with ribaldry and derision, there was no difference whatever between them. But he certainly did differ with him greatly on other points—for instance, when he looked at the prosecutions which had taken place against that much Nueva individual. R. Carla*, for selling The Age of Roams; when lie looked at the same individual kept fu prison for ltf weeks, on the allegation of having pub lished the Parodies of . Mr. Hone. and it was not Sittil the author had bees acquitted that Mr. tart!e was liberated without even the form of a Mil.. Now, . the Honourable Gentleman bad bees Consistent is his argument, there would have been as differeoce Whatever on this point between them; for aeserding to die larger portion of his speech, he Has bound to ac knowledge the persecution of this individual in as strong twits as those made use 44'4 the Hon. Mover and himself. Ho would.repeat that no man's religion could have any baleful effect whatever. No one had a right to say 6 . my Opinion is true; yours is not true, and therefore I will punish you ." it would be dilecult when the proposition wee put ia this simple form, to find any man hardy enough openly to advocate a• moutrons a doctrine. He bail stated on a former debate on a similar question, that if e, man were asked whether he believed in a future state, andlial the honesty to say that lie did not believe, that thed his oath would be rejeCted ; whereas if a man, also an unbeliever, with less honesty, were to profess himself a believer, then his testimony would he received. No ' thing could be more absurd than this. so long as the truth of the answer given depended Gyms the veracity of the respondent, coil no 'proof was admitted. It was nei ther more ror less than a premium, for perjury. When, on the former occasion. Ise (Mr. Hume) bad applied the term" honest man ' to the person who would be challeng ed, there was a general laugh in the House, for it was thooght quite impossible that a man who did not believe in a future state could have any pretensions to honesty!— He, however. did not eotertain any such narrow doc trines. Hie for one, contended. that a man might disbe lieve in a future state, and still be an honest man. There were other sanctions, he conceived, besides religion, for the honesty and morality of mankind. Religion was certainly a sanction above all ethers, but it was a libel upon human nature to-say. that becalau an individual did not believe certain ()pillions, that he could not be an honest man. The Hon. (lent. here read a passage of Arch- bishop Tillotson to the same effect, and then ofiserved,there mi l a n individual whose name was known to every ono I both in and eat of that Hons., sod whose benevoleneel and goodoess few were unacquainted with—who was pos. seised of a pure heart and unsullied character, but net-* witli,tanding was a disbeliever io a future state; he al. Ruled to Mr. Owen, of Lanark. lie would ask, whether seiefi a man ought to be subjected to punishment? wii& %thee such a man ought to be immured a a gaol for lila He did think that the Honourable Gentleman bad him self furnished an argument which would bear him out in, saying, that such a system was ab%mibable and absurd: There was no necessity for troubling the House much further ; bat be would remark on the opinion which had "been often broached, namely, that religion ought to be established in a State, sot from the mejority of the Heir hers of that State believing is such religion, but bee it was true. Now, if there was any distinct and acknow ledged test of the'truth of religion, we might admit this mode of establishing a State Religion; but as that wall impossible—as it WAS impossible for any man to arrogate to himself the establishment of any particular and mils:, sive religion, then the religion which ought to be gate blished in a community should be the religion of the greater number. If our opinion of the truth was to be the sole test for the opinion of all countries under our do minion; then, we might as well establish .the Protestant religion in India, as it bad been so long attempted in freland.—(Hear, hear.) lie would make one obserration, before he sat down ; he hoped and trusted, that be had steered clear of expressing any cipiniem which, by any interpretatioa whatever. it would be supposed, that be cause he defended the liberty of religious doctrines. h. himself entertained any obnoxious opiuion, and lie beg.' ged that none such might be fixed upon him.—(Hear.) Mr. HORACE TWISS had heard many quotations In tbef course of the evening, and he would add one other authority; which at least would have the merit of being applicable tol the question under discussion. Ile spoke of the Address voted by the House of Commons in 1691, which prayed, *song other things, that the Judges and Magistrates might be commanded by Proclamation to prosecute all wdrks of a licentious and Immoral tendency, and to suppress all books and pamphlets which militiated spinet religion, and that the authors should be punished. To this Address Ring William was advised to make the followjug Answer:—" ' shall give immediate directions in the several particulars re quired, but I wish more effectual provisions to be made for the suppression of obnoxious books and pamphlets." The Honourable Gentleman thought this authority ought tgrbs tolerably satisfactory. He made a wide distinction betweis religious and political opinions. He admitted the cull arise log from the prosecution; but making this 'admission, war' the offender, for that reason, to escape altogether ? Some of the Gentlemen who advocated the p motion, who had talked so loudly about religious liberty os a resent de bate, when the object was to make certain concessions to the Catholics, hail purposely quitted their seats, and left the House and the Bill to its fate, when by their presence they might have saved It from a defeat [hear, hear For his own part, he boasted of the laws wider which be lived [hear ! from the Opposition], sod with that feeling he felt himself bound to vote against a motion which ran directly counter to them [heir!]. • Mi. WILLIAM SMITH said that this was a vary grave subject, and except when, as on the present occasion, it was mixed up with certain questions of law, he deprecated its discussion la that House; and, even under such circum stances, it smelt not to be frequently agitated. He could tsot help thinking that these subjects were always better con veyed through the medium of the Press, chap by a debate in that House. where the discussion was necessarily- limited, end angry and violent feelings were likely to obtrude. Nu man felt greater disgust, or a more Unfeigned abhorrence at the opinions of Cartile shah himself, still he was a filmed to the freedom of dismission on religious giabjects. Mr. T. WILSON trusted that the vote of the House would thew that their sentiments were not in unison with those of ' the Hoe. Gentleman. He - considered the publications as calculated to do much 'Mashie, by falling into the hands of the lower orders; who, if mice they took iu the poison, were not likely to loot for the antidote. Mr. MONEY thought, that since Pirdanteet and different Societies exerted themselves so zilch to diffuse the blessings of ednesiion, they were booed to take care that these Mess ing, should not be abused. He defended the Disseatee•from the chergcof ooderasinlng she Church Establishmeitts add viedtcated Mr. Owen from the imputation of disbelief in A future state. He would beg to ask the lion. Meatier fir - - Pon•Hillltiosts Mat part of Mr. Ovred's works ha pounded such an opinion ? Mr. klekit9o in explanation acid, that be should be , sorry to do any injustice to Mr;Owen's opinions. lie col lected his Impression of them from that Gentlemen's differ ent works.. It appeared to Lim, that Mr. Owen neve in a Mate of future rewords and punishments, because he stated in his writings, that no man soul I form his own character, and therefore no man could bee proper object for punishment. Thi doetri to was interwoven In his system. and-he who held 1t could not impute to the Omnipotent Being a desire to ponlsh those who, in this view, could not be considered responsible for their actions. Mr. Pen, said, that he was not prepared to go a single step with the H►nottrable li•ntle:uan. lie object ed t•t the motion on th• gronnsi of form, as the House was ant in the habit of adopting Resolutions upon inch sub jects. If the Honourable Gentleman was of opinion that the law which punishes blasphemy was a bad one, be ought to move for its repeal. It was tend that there might be cases in which it would be unwise to put the law in force; a fair discretion must be allowed on such occasions; but even if that discretion was proved to have bees abutted, if could not justify them in doing away with the law. For his own part he never would consent that persons should be enabled to attack religion without being liable to any pnnishm•nt. Mr. HUMS replied hrietiv, anti intimated that it was not his intention to divide the House. The motion was then cegatired without a division. Mr. GRATTAN moved an Address to his Majesty, that be Might be pleased to order that immediate pro ceedings at law, or otherwise, might be taken to recover the sums slue by the Corporation of Dublin on the Pipe Water and Metal Main Rates; and also to inquire and ascertain by what right or title they presume to hold the Pipe Witer Estates. Mr. SPRING RICE seconded the motion. Mr. GOULBURN said, that the Government of Ire. land were willing to do justice between all perties,Fie could not decide (for himself) on the conflicting testimony that was produced before him. Mr. GRATrAN said, thtt all the difficulty floss Die embarrassed and confused state of the aecounts of the Cor poration of Dublin—he would not say that the Corporation mounts were intentionally mails out in a confused, conspli sated, and unsatisfeetory winner, but this he would say, I that the Corporation made no answer to the Report of the Committee of that House. published four years ago. He consented, from circumstances, to withdraw his motion for the present, but he wished it to be understood, that he did not relinquish the subject.-- rho motion was thee with drawn. • COMNIUTATION OF TITHES. Mr. GOHLRERN brought o? the Report of the Com. mitten upon this Bill. Soule additional clause* were added. The Resolutions were screed to:milli° Bill was ordered to be read a third ti me on Friday next. TUB LAW OF MERCHANTS BILL. The House then west into • Committee on this Bill. The House resumed. The Report wAs ordered to be taken into consideration on Thursday next. ELECTIVE FRANCHISE BILL. ---- ----- On the motion of Lard NUtiEltIT, this Bill vu read a third time and pissed, The other Orders of the Day were them disposed of, oast the House Adjhurned et One o'clock. COURT OF KING'S BESCII, JULY 1. RIAU V. WARD. The further proceedings in the trial of this cause were mowed to-day. Mr. Scsai.err opened the defendant's case in support of the affirmative of the issue, whether the lunatic (Mr. Win. Cotton) was illegitimate? The eve opened was— that the bustle's father and mother were married at Fhedboroegh, in Northamptonshire, in the year Mt', be ing two years after his birth, and that from that time down to his death, in 169, be had always been eVeemed and reputed to be the illegitimate son of his father and mother. The fact was distinctly proved of the celebration of the marriage of the lunatic's father and mother, as above mentioned, and a great many witnesses, consisting of re• wives, friends, visitors, and servants of the family, were called to prove that the lunatic bad always heeu reputed to hi an illegitimate son, which reputation was C.unded upon conversation with, and admissions of the plaintiff (Mrs. Beare,) who was the elder sister of the lunatic, and other relatives of the lunatic. Mr. Carr, the Lord Chancellor's Secretary, and confi dential solicitor of tile defendant during all the time the latter was receiver to the lunatic's property, was also called to prove, that all through the proceedings in Chancery in which he acted as solicitor, he had under stood the lunatic's birth to be illigitimate, although this circumstance did not appear to have been commu nicated to the Lord Chancellor, whose decrees w.•re founded upon the supposition that the lunatic was legiti mately burn. Mr. Lockett, the defendant's attorney, was also called to prove, that two years sl nee the plaintiff, Mrs Beare, had admitted to Ott, that herself acid the lunatic, her brother, were both burn oat of wedlock. Upon this evidence the defendant's case was founded, and at S o'clock the further proceedings were adjourned until to-morrow. POLICE, Mansion Itonsa.—A mni named Jack Murphy Iris ate* days ago brought before the Lord Mayor, charged with having stolen two valuable rings out of a bOl which hid been intrusted to his care. It appeired that a lady, who was anxious to have the box cOnveyed from her lodging to another house, desired the girl to procure a messenger wherever she could In the s'reet to do the job. The girl was not bug on the look oat when she saw the prisoner sauntering about, and sup posing that he was a peeler hired him it once; the box was delivered to him tied round with a tope, but not under lock ...A key, notwithstanding the value of the conten's ; it was left according to the direction, but soon afterwards it was discovered that the two rings had been stolen. The lady, upon tiliefitg Mei in the streets subsequently, liackiliot taken into custody by an oMoer. Every inquiry *as made after the property nut without effect. The LORD Al syoa remanded the prisoner, in order that evidence might he brought forward as to his Character. Murphy accordingly was brought up for another examine nation, and the Lotto blreton asked him whether he had his witnesses in attendance to help Itim out with a character? The prisoner said he had a gentleman and lady reedy to say who and what be was. Ile then called to Mr. and Mrst Cheshire to step forward. The appearance of this respect able couple just corresponded with the extraordinary sc- Urount they gave of themselves on being questioned by his Lordship. I assure your Lordship, upon my honour, that 3lr. Mur phy is as honest and hardworking • man as you ens ffni. And pray wnat are you? .011t1 the Loan Mnton to 'Mi. Cheshire.. who bad so warmly advocated Morphy.-0 1, who are I I I sin a respectable man, I hope, my Lord, said Mr. Cheshire. hope so too, sail the Loin Moven, bet let us know what yon are, whet trade —Oh, what trod. I I am no trade. I am a professional men. The Loui bl•rolt—Well, what profession do you be lobe to? Mr. Cheshire—l belongs to the law. The Loin —ki ANOR—losoleed! And to what department of the law?—you are not an Attorney! • Mr. Cheshire—No. nor i Beryline; Xfi Attorney oily begins the law, a Barrister continues it. Ifisiskra it. • The hoar, Nl•vois —What do you mean by finishing the Mr. Cheshire—There's "Deny a one would wig they devld sneer thatgeeetlue whose mouth I hate snapped: The Lone Mason oaderstood this soltrbeer of the die eoltyi that he WAs slieakiiir to ad less a person than 1 ~. Jack jeteh, erbis deputy, and asked Mr. Cheshire whether he Eel ago tight in.ltis eohjectsre. . „Mrs. Cheshire—Sure every body knows it, my Lord; be dtita his buskin, in a, very respectable way, and is known to be a good low finisher. • • And pray whardo you know of the prisoner? asked the LORD MAYOR. • Mrs. Cheshire--I know him well ; he's a very respect. able man ; depend a thousand pounds upon him ; and he's a sort of assistant to my husband. Mr, Cheshire—Ye*, my Lord, he helps me when I goes on the circuses, and we manages to jiniek together. ll,re an 01,7er assured the Lord Mayor that Mrs. Cheshire ass rether subject to the I iw herself in a slight way. She had been put to the bar of the OH Bailey for some ocf-nce, which, however, was not of such a nature as to demand any test oilier husband's professional skill. • . Thi Loan MAYOR asked her whether her r.vollet don went so far backs. the occurrence alluded to: Mrs. Cheshire—That's nothing to the purpose, my Lord ; it it not my Character, but his that's in questiot,„ The LORD MAYOR was not very strongly disposed to favour the prisoner from this species of recommendation, but there bring no evidence that the robbery was Com mitted, his Lordship discharg....l Murphy, advising him at the same time to take care not to add to the peofeN gional labours of his master, who had spoken so highly H of his virtues and qualifications. Bow-STRRET.—It is the practice of this establishment for two of the patrol in rotation, to remain all night at the date, is order that assistance may be the more easi ly obtained by thane who may have occasion to employ the police on a sodden emergency. Yesterday morning, about six olelock, Sinith, 000 of the patrol on the night ly watch, was called to the door by a loud knocking, ..nd forted - thesnlicant for admission to be a hackr ay-teach- Man, whore coach was standing at the door. The horses were very warm, and the coachman seemed terribly agi tated. lie said, he had got the dead ho ly Gf Mr. Abel Gridiths, the wretched young man who shot his father and himself a week ago, in his c.dielt, and he wanted to know what was to he done isith it ? Smith questioned him as to how it came there. and be said, " that in the middle of the night" he was called from•a staid in Ox ford-street, by a respectable-10 'king man, who ordered him to drive gest!), towards St. Giles's. lkhad wit pro ceeded (Cr, before he was stopped, and and souther wan got in, and further dotin a third entered the coach, and he was then orderid to drive to the end of gatoLstreat, as fast as possible. Whoa he arrived there they got out and " went to week" is the cross eaten.. . and dug up the body that was buried there. They covered in the ground, placed the body in the coach: and having covered his plates with some paper to prevent the Dumber froM being seen, they ordered him to drive to Foley plice. He dial so, and is Puley-piece they got out, and having desired him to wait a few moments walked away down andther street or mews. lie waited above five minutei, when finding they did not return. he began to be alarmed at the prohible consequences to himself of being found in th e soh; possession of a dead betty, and de , termined to drive straight to Bow -street, and there deli ver it to the police, or take their directions As to its ells pool. Sakti, on hearing titis more, look-cl into the coach, and there saw a dead body wrapped ins pieceof matting exactly in the manner describe tin tie riew,pv pert iu the account Riven of the hit-wawa of Mr. Abet. ti r iffith s . A crowd had by this time collected, and. Suoiiit. told the coachman to drive to St. Martin's workhouse. and deliver the body there', hat did 'hot nevi:Nutty hint.' The writer of this statement learned; on inquiry at the workhotiee. that the coachman came there with the bo iy, and desired that it might be taken in ; but • the door keeper having ascertained from the coachman from whence it was taken, said he had no power to take in ties body, it twin been interred in the parish of St. tieorlre.. Hanover-square. He iivised the coachman to . teke it to the workhouse in Mount-Areet, Grosvenor-square, and he drove away avowedly for that purpose, and we were informed that the body was eventually deposited there. Thomas Brigginehate, a sturdy countryman, win brought before Mr. HA. 1.8 yesterday by Ellis, a princi pal officer, charged with committing an assault opoo John Smith, With intent to rob him. The prosectitor is a nt to a Mr. Fork'. at Hat., row; and on the 4th of June, at night, was returning home, when he stopped at a public-horse a shoit time, in consequence of the rain. He had been to receive soaro nosey, to the amount of oboe: 251. and happened to mention the circumstance while at the public-hense. He had not got far on his way. when the prisoner came or, and seizing lain by the collar, said, "If you don't so.- lender l will blow your brains oat." The prosecutor. however, resisted, and gut the better of Lim, hot Wand e his escape, and was not taken until yesterday. In Lis defence, he said be eras tipsy, and did not kno v what he was about: He Ira§ remanded. MARLtiOROUGH SittET:—Satanli Beckley was put to the bar yesterday, for a final hearing. on the charge of Mr. Rutland, an extensive dealer io jewellery, In Oxford-street. The pritoner, one day last week, had bought a seal at hi , . Rulland's shop, and on the following day he again call- d, saline he wished to order some seals, with sporting im pressions, and some diamond crosses, and at the same time placing a pocket-book on the counter, the jewels ware placed before him for his selection, when two men entered the shop *ho requested to have some seals shown to them, which were exposed for sale in the window. As soon as the seals had been paced before these individuals, the prisoner ex rested his desire to be accommodated with a glass of water, and while the shop was for a moment deserted to procure it. the two strangers walked cff with property to a consider able amount. On the discovery being made, the prisoner ex claimed; „ Good God, they have taken thy poeket-book, which contains forty pounds." The prisoner offered to lead the pursuit, out suspicion fell on himself, and he was se cured. On the former examination he was stated to be a mar who had squandered a considerable fortune. This Office Was yesterday crowded to excess, to helr an - other similar charge brought against him by Mr. Broad, a wholesale dealer ba watches, living at No. 33, Leadeutmil street. Mr. Broad stated, that on the 20th ult., about one o'clock in the day, the prisoner ceded at his house, 'lnd said. hat. aleiut 14 years back he had purchased a watch of M r. Broad, which gate him great sattafaction up to the time of his losing it, which he professed occurred three nights pre vious, having been stolen from him in his way out of , the Italian Oiiera House. Mr. Broad proceeded to ca:e. that from the man's genteel deport.nent, his confident ad demo, and from some reference which the prisoner in the course of his con lion made to the ladia House, he was induced to suppose hi.n a captain to the East India Company's Service. Watches were laid before him, taken from a chest which was said to contain the most valuable.' Tae prisoner st last axed on one valued at 241.3 this was accordingly set apart Gem the rest. The prosecutor at this time had four watches on his counter, when au individual entered who requested to beshewn some seals ; but not being sccousniod ted, he left the shop apparently in bait., aging, '"Yba know Me very well; 1 live at No. 4, Bucklersbory, aid will call again." The pri.o3et then desired Mr. Broad to mike out his ineoier, observ ing, that he teas about to step over tb,e way to the India House, but wuild return almost iuttnedietely.and pay the fment. The risoner having quitted the shop, atter a tare Without too or three minutes, Mr. Broad swan pre paring to make oat She invoice as 'directed, When he missal his watch,' _ • g , ' y bowleg beteeistbial editipell to say io his defence ?( Ctowea ored . bt Ow e% he hod ever been He tt advisedast hi n ,. ~ by Ir. pal* , ries, Ids solicitor, tobtsitetit The prisoner **Orally eoataitted by Mg. CONANT, 02 ' boat cbtfges. 'I lair?