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r ii ri\l`e4ur& (*tut 4(A -coda a ft DOI 'h e Ammo LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNE 20, 1820. %O. 4748• " The Cause for which HAMPDEN fell at the Add, ond . SYDNAT died on lA, Scaffold!" THE QUEEN. coMMVNICATIONS ON THE PART OF THE QUEEN writ HIS MAJESTY'S GOVERNMENT. cation, except to repeat that the Memorandum delivered' to Mr. Brougha m o f the It)th April, contained the ooty proposition to the Queen which the King authorised to be made to her Majesty. The views and sentiments of the King's Boverameot as to her Majesty's actual situation are sufficiently ex plained in Lord Liverpool's note of the 11th instant. Lord Liverpool will proceed therefore to the proposal made on the part of her Majesty at the close of this communication, viz. " That she is willing to Leave every thing to the decision of any p e r son or p ersons o f hi g h station and character, whom both parties may concur in naming; and who shall have authority to prescribe the particulars as to residence, patronage, and income, sub ject of course to the approbation of Parliaffihnt." The King's con fi dential servants cannot think it con sistent with their constitutional responsibility to advise the King to submit to any arbitration, a matter so deeply connected with the honour and dignity of bit I Crows, nod with the most linportant public interests; hot they are fully sensible of the advantages which may be derived from an unreserved personal discussion ; and they are titerefore prepared to advise his Majesty to appoint two of his Majesty's confidential servants, who, In concert with the like number of persons to be named by the Queen, may frame an arrangement to be submit ted to his Majesty, for settling, upon the basis of Lord Liverpool's note of the I Ith instant, the necessary par. titulars of her Majesty's future situation. 13th June, 1090. No. VII. Pier illejesty's tAw-ollteers, on the part of the Queen. da• skald, la the lest instance, that the fourth point should be al together laid aside In these conferences ; that her Majesty &dna it might ankenopert of the conditions, nor be mixed midi the present discussions. iaw•olcan, that the Queen' Budd in the Liturgy, in , say ushiconstruction of the might consent to reside abs cad ; for reasons already sufficiently the surprise of their colleagues lion; for the first time, on pecially in the present advanced that they were authorized servants could on no account the decision already taken that, to prevent misconception, charged the Duke of Wellington plain that they must equally( from the principle already the direction of his representatives re ir" the public reception by the kileg's Mininlers *tweed, iii in troduction of her Majesty ware not only ready bet mewed orders, against any Majesty's comfort or convenience kers abroad ; and that, wherever ' Si establish her residence, Si assure for her Majesty listion,aad the utmost personal nurse". LAID ellen WI BOUM Of II LAST XIIBT. No. I. ,ott:NictTioss nom ran (WEER TO TA/ EARL OF LIVERPOOL. They then proceeded to state, that undet all the circa s alueses sf her Majesty's position, they would not say that her Majesty had any insuperable objection to living abroad ; on the contrary, If audt foreign residence were deemed indis pensable to the completion of an arrangement so much desired by Parliament, her Majesty might be prevailed upon to ac quiesce but then that eertain steps must betaken to remove the possibility of any inference being drawn from such com pliance, and from the Inquiry not being proceeded in, unfa vourable to her Majesty's honour, and inconsistent with that reennition which is the basis of these negotiations ; and her Majesty's law oaken saggasted. with Lion offset name to the Liturgy. • e To this it was replied, that the King's Government would no doubt learn with grout surprise, that a question of this im portant nature had nowbeen brought forward for the first time, without having been adverted to in any of the previous dis cussions, and without being included amongst the heads to be new treated of; that the Liturgy had been already regu lated by his Majesty's formal declaration in Council, and in the exercise of his Majesty's legal authority ; that the King, in yieldlag his own feelings and views to the wishes of Par liament, could not be understood (in the absence of inquiry•) to alter any of those impressions under which his Majesty had hitherto deliberately and advisedly acted ; and that. as it was at the outset stated, that the Kiog could not be expected to retract any thine, no hope could be held out that the King's Government would feel themselves justified in sub mitting such a proposition to his Majesty. To this it was answered, that although the point of the Liturgy was certainly not included by name amongst the heads to be discussed, her Majesty's Law OMeers felt them selves entitled to bring it forward in its connexion *a ith the' question of her Majestl's residence abroad. It was further contended. that the alteration in the Liturgy was contrary to the plain sense and even letter of the statute, and that it was Lighly objectionable on constitutional grounds. being contrary• to thew hole policy of the law respecting the security of the sureession, and liable to be repeated in eases where the suceession itself might be endangered by it ; and there fore it was said, that a step so taken might well be retraced without irnpl,ing any unworthy concession. It was also urged. that the omission having been plainly made in con templation of legal or Parliament:-ry proeeedings against her Majesty, it followed, when these proceedings were to be abandoned, that the omission should be supplied; and it follow ed for the same reason, that supplying it would imply no retraction. In explanation of the rood upon this question . dons under which the Ministers manicated to the Queen - was directed, as sell to the from which his hlajesty as to that branch of the framed to pros isle for the of the Qarcn when Princess MOTE PROM THE EARL 01P urxitrooL To MR. 'BROUGHAM, •CCOMPANTING HIS ANSWER TO TOE COMMUNICATION PROM Tat QUEEN OF THE 12TII JrNF, IS*2O. Lord Liverpool presents his compliments to Mr. Brougham, and requests that he will inform the Saute% that if the accompanying answer should not appear to re quire any reply. Lord Liverpool is prepared to name the two persons whom his 31ajesty will appoint fur the purpose referred to in this note. 131 A Jane, 1920. _ No. VIII. The Queen's Law 01leCrIt be understood to suggest her Majesty to establish and to be there received nister, because reasons that, under certain circumstai should be made ; but they - have the power of being lish Minister, where no aml they Inquired whether the public introduction where she might Siker introduction at foreign Courts To this It was answered. ' the same whether at one ( King could be consistently wishes in this — lnstance at. ." his Majesty to de so generally any partial or covert proceeding The Queen's kw Akers, in George-11,1 Pb./ more nneNceptionable irerr the King :ren to reside, but to order her Minister. BEOVOMAII TO THE EARL or LIVERPOOL, STATING THAT lit Ella RIWEIVILD THE waves COMMANDS TO NAVE TWO PERSONS TO MEET THE TWO WHO NAT II NAMED ON THE FART OF 1116 MAJZOTT'S GOVORNMIINT TOR SETTLING AN ARRANGEMENT. Mr. Brougham presents his compliments to Lord Li verpool, and hrgs leave to inform him, that hr has re ceived the Queen's commands to name two persons to meet the two whom his Lordship may name on the part of his Majesty's tiovernment, for the purpose of settling an arrangement. Mr. Brougham hopes to be favoured with Lord Liver pool's nomination this evening, in order that an early appointment for a meeting to-morrow may take plate. 14111 June, 1S?O. APPENDIX. lIIRMORANDeII FOR A PROPOSID ARRANGI3IItNT WITS THZ " The set of the Ilith Geo. 111., cap. lbJ, recognized the separation of be Priam Repanit fromjkaylermse of Waled., and allotted a separate provision for the Princes. This provision was to continue during the life of Ids late Majesty. and to determine at his demise. In tronsequenee of that event it has altogether ceased, and no proll.ion eau be made for her until it shall please his Majesty to recommend to Parliament an arrangement for that purpose. " The King is willing to recommend to Parliament to en able his Majesty to settle au annuity of 80,000 i. a-year upon the Queen, to be enjoyed by her during her natural life, and In lien of any claim in the nature of jointure or otherwise, provided she will engage not to come into any pert of the British dominions, and provided she engages to take some other name or title than that of Queen ; and not to exercise any of the rights or privileges of Queen, other than with re spect to the appointment of law-olicers, or to any proceed ings in Courts of Justice. The annuity to cease upon the violation of these engagements, viz., upon her coming into any part of the British dominions, or her assuming the title of Queen, or her exercising any of the rights or privileges of Qseea, other than above accepted, after the annuity shall have been settled apon her. " Upon her consent to an engagement on the above con ditions. Mr. Brougham is desired to obtain a declaration to this elket, signed by herself ; and'at the same time a full au thority to conclude with such person es his Majesty may ap point, a formal engagement upon these principles." " April 18, 1900. It was reviled. that his Majesty had derided that her Ma jesty's name should not be inserted In the liturgy. for several tames sot wese woorooory to enamor: /hit Ittuillteutr had acted under legal advice, and in conformity to the practice of bla Royal predecessors; and that the decision of his Ma- jesty had not ben taken solely with a clew to intended pro ceedings in Parliament or at law. Independent of the inquiry Instituted before Parliament, his Majesty had felt himself long since called upon to adopt certain measures to which his Majesty, es head of his family. and in the 'itemise of his prerogative, was clearly compe tent. These acts, together with that now under considera tion, however relticteotly adopted, and however painful to his Majesty's feeling., were taken upon grounds which the discontinuance of the inquiry before Parliament could Rot street, and which his Majesty could not therefore be espected to rescind. The principle fairly applied would go. in truth, ao further than to replace the parties in the relative position in which they stood immediately before her Majesty's swivel, and before the King's Message a as sent dun n to both Houses of Parliament. The King's servants. at a former conference. the Queen had arrived in mast experience were she like manner. They aequaisted that they could venture would not occur. The to the King's wishes Maje‘iy now to desire to port in the Channel, or, Majesty's views to proceed King's yacht, in the ooe other, might be ordered After farther discussion upon this point. it was agreed• that the Duke of Wellington and Lord Castlereagh should report to the Cabinet what had passed. and come prepared with their determination to the next conference. lIIIITOCOL or VIZ Flan No. I. NPLD is It. 'AWES'S- SQUAW, ' JUNE 1 1 :14 IWO. The Queen commands Mr. Brenham to inform Lord I, 4er p oo i, that she has directed her most serious atten tion to the declared sense of Parliament, as to the pro rietv a s ome amicable adjustment of existing difieren !„. being' attem pted: and submitting to that high an ahority with the gratitude due to the protection slot has always received from it, her Majesty no longer waits for coummnication from the Ministers of the Crown, but commands Mr. Brougham to announce her own Teeth nfits,to reos id er say ayrangosamst that eon he suggested consistent with Ilier dignity and honour. her o'slock, Fs Way, 901 Anse, No. 11. TEE EARL OP LIVERPOOL IN ANSWER TO Tit! ISODINIT NICATION FROM THE QUEEN ON THE SAM! DAT. Lord Liverpool has had the honour of receiving the •.h yen's corumnnication of this day, and begs leave to acqvaint her Majesty that a memorandum delivered by Lord Liverpool to Mr. Brougham on the 15th April last. contains the propositions which Lord Liverpool was coartvandod by the King to communicate through alolirougham to her Majesty. Her Majesty has not been advised to return any an swer to those propositions, bnt Lord Liverpool assures ler Majesty that the King's servants will still think it their duty, notwithstanding all that has passed, to re ceive for consideration any suggestions which her Ma jesty or her advisers may have to offer upon those pro- positions. liir-horse. 91A .1 rat, 1990. No. 111. COMMUNICATION FROM Tlll QI•EEN TO THE zaiat LIVERPOOL. lie Queen commands Mr. Brougham to inform l A gsl Liverpool that she has received his Letter, and that the Memorandum of April 15. 1420, which the propositioss made through Lord Hutchinson had appeared to super sede, has also been DOW SUIPMiIieLI to her Majesty for the first time. Her Majesty does not consider the terms there speci fied as at all according with the condition upon which she informed Lord Liverpool yesterday that she would entertain a proposal, namely, that it should be consistent With her dignity and honour. At the same time she is willing to acquit those who made this proposal, of in tending any thing offensive to her Majesty and Lord Liverpool's letter indicates a disposition to receive any inggestions which she may offer. Her Majesty rel.tins the same desire which she com mended Mr. Brougham yesterday to express, of submit ting Her own wishes to the authority of Pediment, now so decisively interposed. Still acting upon the same principle, site now conmiands Lie. Brougham to add, abs fettle is weeessary, before making any further proposal, to have it understood that the recognition of het rank and privileges as Queen, must be the basis of any arrangement which can he made. The moment that basis is established, her Majesty will be ready to stigimst a method by which she conceives all existing differences nosy be satisfactorily adjusted. HA Jaime, le& No. 1%. THE EARL OF LIVERPOOL IN ANSWER TO THE COMS11:- RIC:IVO:4 PROM THE wrestle/Jr THE Mtn JUNE, HMI. Lord Liverpool has bad the honour of receiving the Qween's communication, and cannot refrain from ex pressing she extreme ',uprise of the King's servants that the 31einonniluin of April 15th, the only proposi tion to her 31ajesty, which ever was anthorised by his Majesty, ahonld out hat e 'been submitted to her Majesty until yesterday. That Memorandum contains so full a cornmunicatiens of the intentions and views of the King's 011,11,111111110 with respect to the Queen, as to have entitle. WA& jesty s sertants hi an equally frank, full, and planation on the part of her Illa j jesty's advisers. The memorandum of the lath April, while it paw posed that her Majesty should abstain from the exercise of the rights and privileges of Queen with certain ex ceptions, did nut call upon her Majesty to reocnince any of them. Whatever appertains to her Majesty by law, as Qum s must coedits, to appertain to her so long as it is oat abrogated by law. The King's servants in expressing their mans ID receive the snggestion for a satisfactory stai which her Majesty's advisers promise, think it ri ll Arn order to save time, distinctly to state that any proposi tion which they could feel it to be consistent with their duty to recommend toshis Majesty, must have for its leis her Majesty's residence Amid. AIM June, No. V. emit: memos raom THE Qt:EIVI TO THE WM OP LITERTOOL. The Quern commands Mr. Bretegbam to halms Lord Limpool, that she has ?recited his letter, and that tie me aleitidalll of April Ifi. IMO. which the propisition mode lireugh Lord Liverpool bad appeared to supermak. be. dm beet tow submitted to her Majesty for the first time. " Her Majesty does sot consider the time tier* spoiled fn st all sterording with the roodition upon mike she ia formed Lord Uterpeol yesterday that she world aMerlain a proposal—namely. that it should be emseislient with her nil oity and hosonr. At the same time the Is wiMag W sem* tnwoe who tootle this pommel of latindieg my Wag ellessive to her Majesty ; and Lord Lieerposi's letter imam's* a dis position to receive env saggestioe which she may ear. " bier Majesty rendes the same desire which she com manded Mr. Brougham yesterday to screws of submit"( her own a lilies to the authority of Partiamet, ewe so did' siselj interposed. Still actlag upon the same prineiple, she now commands Mr. armadas to adds that she h ell It as cessarj. before malting any hither proposal, to have it us 4Lvetood that the recognltie• of her rank sad Oldie/ MI es Quern Milst rum tie basis of any arrammeeneet whirls ena be made. The moment that basis is established, bar Majesty will he reedy to mum • melhod by wilrl she cmosives all might* differences may be satisfactorily adjusted." Ink Jim. Ilia No. VI. TOR sant 07 LIVINPOOL IN anima TO TN! CONDIUNI CATION 'Roll Tag gelteN Or TSUI Itra JUISZ, Lard Liverpvdil has received the earmsookation mode by the yopen's commands. The ItingN:Sereant• feel it to be umneeessery to enter iota any discussion on the colt , pinta tbis commanl• lo persuanee of t►e notes of the 111th and 14th of Pose. the Duke of Wellington cud Lord Castlereagh, on the part of the Lar, hewing met Mr. Brougham and Mr. Diemen, her Ma jesty's Law °Seers, in order to fbeilitate the proposed per sonal dieessaions, it was ingested by the tenser— !. That the perfume named to frame an arrangement, al though repressaties dilikrent interests, should milder them selvie, ha discharge of dile arty. not as opposed to sash other, but as acting In cameo with a view to frame an arrange mod, la amplifies, with the understood wish of Parthiment, whialt may avert the aoressity of a pebik Inquiry Moth* In dirmation laid before the two Rousse. 1. The arrangement to be made must be of such a nature no to regain from neither party any coueession as to the Melt a whkh inch inquiry. if proceeded on, might load. I The gam mast not be understood to admit, ear Oho Klee sines!. say MRS. IL tat, is esiui Oa better to aecompliab the shove he ;Meant object, it was proposed dot whotwor Wed pass aOs Arm cookware, should pledge &either party to sat gifts; that main 'Meld be recorded without previous ad, as tar u possible, comma comfit ; and su to facilitate explanation. and to encou rage veragerved diseession, the substance only of what passed skald be reported. near padleimery pasts Wag agreed to. site question to ha allilisedl (as cootakted Is Lord Liverpool's meteo roids= of April lA, MK delivered to Mr. Brougham pre vises to Ids proceeding to St. theer's..and Lord Liver pool's not* of the 11th of June, and Mr. itroaglasm's note of the HO ethos., written by the Qom's eonusaad) were— lst. The Wore resideatm of the Queen shelled. Idly. Tim title whisk her llojesty might it to as sume when treeing on lice emetineet. Nip. Time etio-serreise Oneida rights of patronage la rgliwhisk It might be desirable tbst her INe}eety might west verreking, simeM sit reside abroad ; and ehly. /he tsildable looms to be sniped far life to the Queen, Nolan Abroad. lier Majesty's Law Officers then asked, whether, in the event of the obove proposition not being adopted. any other proceeding could be suggested on the part of his Majesty's Uoverntneut. which might render her Majesty's residence abroad coapisteut with the recognition of her r ghts and the vindication of her character : and they specially pointed at the official introduction of her Majesty to Foreign Courts by the King's Ministers abrortal. Upon this it was observed. that this proposition appeared open to the same difficulty in point of principle : it was calling upon the King to retract the decision formerly taken and avowed on the part of his Majesty, a decision already notified to Foreign Courts; and to render the position of his Majesty's Representatives abroad, in relation to her Majesty, inconsistent with that of their Sovereign at home ; that the purpose fur which this was soeght by the Qleen's advisers was inconsistent with the principle admitted at the commencement of the conference, and was ono that could lot be reasonably re quired to be accomplished by the act of his Majesty—name ly, to give to bee Majesty's conduct that countenance which the state of the case, as at present before Ids Majesty, alto gether precluded. At the same time it was stated, that while his Majesty. consistently with the steps already adopted, could not au thorise the public reception of the Queen. or the introdse tion of her Majesty at foreign Courts by his Ministers abroad. there was nevertheless every disposition to seethat branch of the orders already given fsithfhliy and liberally executed, which enjoined the British Ministers on the Con tinent to fiellitate, wititie their respective mission, her Ma jesty's aecommodatims, and to costribute to her potatoed eolotbrt sod convenience. Her Majesty's Law-ollesrs gave the King's Servants so reason whatever to think that the gages could be induttsi to depart from the proposition above stated, salem some others, founded on the ease principles, were acceded to en the part of his Majesty's Goveroannt. CASTLEREAGH, H. BROUGHAM, T. DENSLCN. No. 11. raorocor. 07 TRZ lITCOND cosraarawit MILD AT rout TOlll6ll 4111111142. auxe 10. 18811. The Klag's setnets helps the eeeforesce by stalls. that they had sot Mimi to report with idelity to the Kiss's Cie rerouting air proposltket brewed forward b) her Majesty's After receiving these_ recurred to the points before the Queen's name in the in the nature of an equivalent, that her Majesty would of those objects, or some dency. They then asked Royal Palaces would be country, and observed, 1 prised of her apartments Inntarily gave them up Doke a Kent. It was replied, no instruction on this point. ' they believed the aperteseats occupied when Princess in the possession of the sidered that this point bed b. plying to her Majesty the funds -eich her Majesty a suitable ller Majesty's law , posing an arrangement astir, transaction and withdrawing tl liament had been considered, tants saw any objection. !louses of Parliament 1 both to the King and Queen, Majesties havfng acquiesced ' Parliament had been saved and di/cult a proceeding. hedged this point bad not theimelte• to report the their colleagues. It yes thee speed, propriety, the heel declaims lead 10111111 p, to which . Ileelleildhigtes the Kin% deselleho adjourned • telt. 6111101611 t a efelerooer elesidd itether Ifa We the hasinses by 62%61 meson. Illte Protocols ........ wrCIIIL IN The conference was , Alejrettr's Officers, intimating. that. , wheahaii:: in the preceding crifereocc, nothigg to pro peg,. but to proceed to the of the 'rotor .t. The Ring's sermon stat titer eit• nv/A iota WI business of ornate L, , thei &ogle it their duty to advert to Om lariats thennesel ht she pow (For coorisoion. 111=1 -- L: ore+m—o—roo ...mm0000•oo.r- - ;•..r, ..4 . • •le :,-,;, ••• • ,I,• • • •• $ • o • • • ("Z IRS.: a • f" PRten SEVIN PENCE ten's name should be expressly is- order to protect her Majesty GOMA be grounds on which het Majesty Ibroati ; that they were not deceived. Iciently explained. in anticipating segues at the production of this gees- on the pert of her Majesty, more es. dvaneed state of the proceedings : .11 distinctly to state. that - the King's count advise his Mojeety to rescind f ' • II and acted upon ie this instance: and eption. the King's Government had lington and Lord 4'astlerrigh to ex- i t ly decline to advise the King to depart sdy laid down by his Majesty for ti oresentatives abroad with roped to Ihe Kieg's hileinters elseersit, bail id- ty at Foreign Courts ; but that limy desirous to guard in future, by m- ay possible want of *limbos to t. r onvenience by his Majesty's Minis- wherever her Moistly might think St •i; ee, every endeavour would be made sty from that State the MI •st pro- ersonal comfort, attention, and con- tt position in which the king ectually o in his foreign relation's, the instrue- inisters abroad now meted were vow- 's Law Oeierra, and their attention the principles therein lai.l down, and could not he called upon to d.-mot. e instructions which were studiously le personal comfort and cunt roolence teas of Wales. leers then stated. that they must rot st the Siting of a geuerni power to h her Court in say foreign conntry, d and presented by the English Ali- • of State might reader it expedient, - cumstances, such an establishment bey wished that her Majesty should r so received and treated by the Eng- o such reasons of State Interf. red ; err the same objection would exist to of her Majesty at some one Court residence, if she waived the claim of Courts generally. • red, that the principle was, In fact, • me or more Courts ; and that if the ently advised to meet the Queen's • at all. it would be more dignified for • • rectally and avowedly, than to adopt oceedlng, tees, referring to the decision of the Prrenrfittp. aid It would be a much exercise of the Royal prerotrative, prescribe wheresher Majesty ehorld I there le be treated as Queen by his IL In eonsequeriee of what had passed . then reverted to the mode in which in Eaglets.% and the pain her Majesty she exposed to leave England in the • equainted her Majesty's law oilleere J • to assure them that this dillerity e Queen arrived in Ragland contrary and representations; but, were her to pass to the Continent, whether to a • r, if it should mere acpord with her wed at once to the Mediterranean, a one instance, or a ship-of-war in the d to convey bee Majesty. explanations, the Queen's law dicers tefore touched upon, vie. the asserting • Liturgy. or the devising something lialeat, and intimated their conviction I feel it necessary to press oneor both ome other of a similar nature or ten- led whether a residence in used as 4 is secured to her Majesty whilkshlllll . that her Majesty had never ben de- ts in Kensington-palace until As en- for the secommodatioe of the lab replied, that the King's servants bed point. They, however, observed, that boats which her Majesty foresee* s of Wales, were at present menially • Dockets of Kent ; sad that they rut- had been already disposed of by soe be funds v. hich were necessary I. far- able residence. Pikers then inquired whether, sap- made, the en de of winding top the swing the Laformation referred is Pee i i - ddered, and whether the King's see- len. the present instance, to the s Impressing. by suiott.le adage/Ms Queen, their grateful thanks ter their lesced in an arrangement by which lard the painful defy of so delicate lag. The King's Servants Gamow- not been coaaldered, but reserved is the °biers 'nous mode thermal to • that. upon every Orlit of duty and [vision should not be protracted In- sh day it should be proposed that the . cg's Message la the house of Gna- wed es i distinct explanation to this race should take - place to-seerrew, le eels to a eateltedOe, and to arrange Protocols of eoefereeee. (Signed as More ) No. M. • TOR TIMID eowatitence. Ferripe Otte. Jena 17. ite.V. is opened by hes Mqieety'a Lem • , hat, adverting to whelids4 pissed! creme, they had soothilit tn pre- o the salist•taten l of the rr•tut .1. I atatistie, that heeSre they ets• nutria( the Ponterstl 4 Masi theeNIOS to the pears thearearel fns as pow • wive. see fa dad MIMI • •