The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-06-25 00:00:00

eifu.—(Hear, hear.) - He had so dispedtlea to impede the passing of the Bill ; vas every abet a aosseely Ae it did exist. and 'Although be did wet deem it ea rtaedy. yet it operated ass it la curtly teetsearlisaTe, ctly to persons and to property. He di d d WI *MI WI vsderstood as casting soy relketiats va the Geeetalallat t Lord Welles!ey in irelaed. He vu ready to show.. ledge that his Gummed bad already rendered esUldee able services, end coalerred great bombs ea Iry lead by the suggesting of assay metal veaserea of le a beestaiagJkosa.sP - mooso 11111$1v . 41111 let lor the r• eQrct Actonrclaccs - 40 refra . 1 08 of Coestablet. fb :Italtinkise et die Nesking. 'no unassras ampeoldirii ir ;Ideation theses's) suite et Imbed ishro Av - pthift .. , law Ulm the presittt. - If the Hem moor to nese' Waimea' of severity, those nesse* should Ito iidnempenhat whit ex. *ruination and inquiry.,;(fear, bear.) 'A thetrary suite would No quite unconstiteml. That Noose • and the country Ought to he Ssedi nettailitted la detail wlth the on. tare of the disturbances GI ' Intend for a sake' et *Fe. It would not be without surpass the Hones wend .e prie sit d re learn*. internal slate of that ' • tbi Al last Tito first doeumenti Which he lase th - show= . l‘ torbthess for the lest'and „ rorteegivih• of the Maktothe of Welthel e e=bes MI!' • lIPIK speech Oahe Right lift. nict 4;dt. and thoaddthes of his Ilimbt Hee- r 0110 4 1. homey Geeeral for Indeed to aJary of Dublin, melba of some 1211 sea es misohille° Men, charged with a . Is jl . tddia. In that 4dress Ils. Rightitort. ?god MI 'Wore of that adthelitidth— (Here the lion. Baronet twat istrects from each of those document..) It Snead" eras' 4 *an' didialots that siatthe counties of lisdaed was la s sties el ilisibbabie, had the rimpatebes dank wi th ether esinaisiraddriaa pahlic mod private,. themild ehat iks; sinrattes . meat mare now to itic raided le the lira. soak* la all MI - ef dm 1111 counties of ire sod. All the sends la A la tint die spirit of diste&aned was r ye ' ' lug l' Proof eie rorrespdadineebeld *lt lie a yhi '' f and some Of - his rt ived. ii that' Haitie.learaketetadtd 4 the spin% ofinsurrection ens firra sp r ead, i r .16 sappy diantn•—distorlialicesef the ' tO cite* r leis extended, with' tome ''shoh lit • prevailed there diring•the - lait thirst *Mira* A' " eirelfee to that with which be wee to conejodt,'' Made by the Hon. Member for S t a'4ll AMC' Ti pil owns the re i_polly Attests split ws*Aiiiir Interne '_....it s . Prom MR to ISIS It *as *din ocessicia”4 dory disturb. to l ets ante, and was in force in Ise lase Shea 111 . yeari la that interest. Another Ara.** athisraitsthdra,the Anne Act, was from 02 to i revisal several thaw lathe brit trims, tut teems • east* of course iratsi:ly, and *as fn foto; during that interval; no hellion TO year& It .might Almost be said that Ireland was in a state of actual disturbance 1112 C, 17r. lie had taken Oral review of the disturbances, Or their duration and extent, to in duce the. House to go into an itiqrary. Timmy counties w ere babituated to that disintbance‘ The pet/4460e of those counties doubling, ea it appeared from recent taiga litioni, in forth-aid y 'earl , were edaoated is the sys tem. Every rat i on inti*rFa made to terminate time dis turbances had &Hid. raid the measure now offered was the often tried 'lnserrecti..n Net. He hoped •it would not he objected to biss•thet the time was now too late in the Session for his oliera.. 11 WM Material for the House to consider, that those associations et c = they beard, were bound by oaths to be toady when upon. Tbeit ge neral character was, that they bad secret obligations to be so ready with arms, and such obligationssbowed.tbat they bid no trial°, &bliss, in view. His motion was for a Sberet Consetlttee, to inquire lato.the object and extent of those disturb seem. He proposed a Secret Commttee to remove any objections on the part of Government, on the grounds of the dangers of having evidence takes is public. The House should know the object and the character of those disturbances in order to come at the causes, and to apply a remedy. Although be was not ignorant of the causes of those disturbances, yet he thought discussion use- - I fail, beestite many false opittloas were eetertained of them la this cottary. Tree Noble Lord at the bead of his Majesty'i tiovennient, said the thanes' of all theevils were nab' traced t 6 the poverty of the people, and not to any political causes. 'Sethi°, •thold be- so erronesms than the opinion that the peep% of Ireland were iodiffereat to any *log of, a political character. By the denthanications which he had with the people and with the Catholic clergy, he found that they understood. the state of their grievances, sod that there was not any connection between the disturbances sad the want of property. lie was folly warranted in saying, that the Cocepiney now in Ireland was not against property. — Mother proof alleged of the absence of Width! feel* from those disturbances wu. the enthusiasm with which his Majesty was reeeited In frothed. But that enthusiasm arose trim the expectations the people had of 'his Majesty's asp° , salon towards them. They needed relief from those grist sacra through his Majesty's interference, bet:ousel% showed his love for the estuary. by. taking the dna opportunity of going amongst them. It was matter of party to deny that there was any thing political in those distmipences ; and it was a matter of co . aveniseee with the Government to set Meth that they rose set et a vamping against property. — it eras equally arratesth to e.ima by lotrodeting eds• cotton and hats& of desallthis ised - othaflort amongst the pfdple, the evils wealth* rethraltadr" It was *aid that a bet ter education had renortsodthellthishpossastry, from being the meet slovenly and unlasrahint• births happiest peaseetry M Nurope; and that the mom ewes would have the same e g ee te li t Wand. Stein at Wrltlep of Pletcher of Seitown, It implored that at the mid of the sereateenth century the people of Scotland were is the most wretched condition. The reason was, that the people of Ssotlaad were till then oppressed on automat of their religion; and it was not until they had the free exercise of it that they 'Respired those habits which were sines the fosmdatlints of their tranquillity and happlaess.—(Hear. hear.)--The non-residence of the gentry weld not aceount for these distarbeaces, because in many districts where great eom..i motion *dated, the gentry were totted resident ow their estates. The best relief for the distresses of the people of Ireland would be to promote the istrodnetion of ea -041, and increase the modes of employment. The pride of Ireland viewed this *matey with abhorrence at the end of the - seventeenth century, beesase, In that eel tory, the greatest number of confiscations of property bed taken place; and it would appear Mr inquiry that since that time nothing bad been done to allay the dia.' c ontest, or coseillate the affectioneed dm people.*; The fret Art of thecigleteenth eesturyraes, that the penal laws extinct the Homan Catholics wete enacted antler the proteece of 'violence on the part of the Roman cal tholics, without any foundation, and In defiance of en treaty of Limerick, which. lie would contend. we, direct ly vitileted. :Hawse aware that sassy people differed la opittion with Liar on that point, Net iie meinteined the tie* trOaty was infringed lit the elactthent of - willies sealost the Rom in Catholics. • Fittorlite year 1773_ nit' to' the' present pried; 'Outset merest eencessionsiora beet 'node, yet they:wasted tire aus Moe of coociliatioh.' tbrommaterwes semonthwiedi thitili Arm inctritingld. stead of allaying discontent. The conclusion be dime his; that thi n country - was 'trying •tO fo i l ., pen. Re of fine feelings by severe oieurte. , *tali the ell* Acme of all -allte• and all theatrics proved to be impact; tirade. The people' of !Telma,' ti - be , happy, mud ff. (vire th e fdlt boogie of the Eigiirarthestitution. Their •Itesived lutheyavil knew' the •valcie et it;'lllidecre - dlie posed to pay it allegiance. Few partook of all thesfeetrafts a the Gradritutith. sod. be might iiiveitt It templets!! pliettell of it, tree -spleitt.leas y gkelriit'thit . &motet.. The great evil Was the state, et the'lltranthistfea, adifclh' was r t e.- aitibigkeitalt *ratter hem fed paint hich ' . Wile _ ' . toils; thet,b t'Ocitittl• doe Val Of gfefb . 4 . .140aiglieci watt; #h. .. , •.'' '''.l;t 2.- • • ..41'..i•r:- ...:- _ . • - • • r• a Firtin. .7 4,,nit ess iiif i v -- :e.;"•• - ` --- ft" the Goverment or ram • sad al. though be could no{ • *1111101111mS: side is I. detelts of. tke tier 4 ft op lippow of ToN ti r"d _ OC, * RP/ 10 4 1 ,7 14 774 4 ki s :Whir hi I, 4 that Hon prosolat VW *motion of the Bassi with dim .. , , .., - dote. In order that Ids Awl valibi ' proper business of tea Ifoolottorr liatto 'tab' We wail- dermas) tbe oetusl site et framed Valero tbs 4- plopis, sr'! *dewed that 911,11111Itelifr wettreveryday . tiatag'‘, show bow tadeqesto it wee 10 WWII tb• need sem conatty. . felt Massif called moo to maim thattato -theitTlM Ilittlonitli eta Hiiiiet, ho ittikirif acquainted coil the real silustilb of the country; and to 'nerd gshe possibility 'of . h . elikrgo Wig' bermes - % =fs him nett year; el-haviag left** House la total the subject. He mmielitded by invite. ni .ti a'Committee of teretlyeette Member, t i ts4retet telitfultif late the t ekteitai4"objette •T *diftturhaq*hilreliind:" " ' ..4 4 . . 1" grAilt:0011 00; it4i Isq wqrdd Boise to itiqdire into the causes of the Z=Ve Id Irela4 c ratiser thee ioto their extent. (if the littpethey hers gel too fully acquainted, and it was Pali*, thud an.inteOgetion Jo* the origin of the wilt &soli lake plane . Pores had bees too . !Dog tried, sad it aq almost dam to try the effects of More rade hieseitlit !Loll 1114 *aid sot hope to find employment for elf t!tp • a t yet be thoeght Ant earlobe ihodil - eOuldtra tr' - Iselin emptoy a emit part of thee: ' With Ibl4' , be would vote for the appdathsent Op; COthedday. igr-licliiLatilitisali,.that however he 'Might differ from the Right Honourable Baronet, there Was **bins that fell from him that was Mit entitled-to the peed* limpet, fibs etsdereteed the Hoe. Member etirtectly; his 'lmpish* wairibt brought forirard with a Vied m ins: pedeibil Meisinthefore the ilttult; He rather m at ti the eppolotdieht ofd COrodsitme ass preliminary' etep. isel Pitt ttattlitfY the House that ' the ',Unstrap of the *emigre railed ter the =galore Whirl it. 'Gn thgt.poist o he (Mr. G) begged Wee to differ, and be thought that the period of the Session was far too lath for the i - - points,* of a Committee, as . ' it would ssoll h oat promises which *mild not be fulfilled. Before • adopted the measure proposed, he willed to' imerteht whether it.was irk the power of Otillindient to 'Odd. ads l any effectual remedy. • He had *l* IlisitatiOnto sit ere inquiring into the affair until th e 41t0 nieli s t Of Htiment, if he was convinced that he cos tly ni wire it iny satisfactory conclusion, But he ett t eat forgo how seem:wiry the prell9oS4 of the Irish fleit lllo . oll was at .home. 9114 hew moth their exertions would oui: banes the return of peace fit that country. He could Ibt then expect that these tientlaken would *handed 'their deitts at home, sad finale here with moth leis success as .be imagined, and la' their absent:it - he was gored*, Copp mittee of i tiry-lue . Meinberd coaltt Owe to's ' condi nips wltiet' vp ould be_ pradnitivit . of b en e ficial cOStit gambrel; ... ' Hoe. Baronet was boundio'show that the frith Oorevuoient bad deserte d thelrditty, end when be had mretniededin dling en, it would then be time **Os to call upon Parliament to take the affair into 'their own bands. When be (Mr. G.) last moved for the **Wei of the Insurrection Act, be bad iatebded to peopose aCOm• mittee of Inquiry tato the stalls of Irelan4 but on a scale nrochmore limited and tangible then that'll/bleb was now sought ht. Subsequent coosiderdtion; hoWever, led him to believe that that was not the time 'foe searching into causes orthe evil; 84 be was sure the effects of it were first to •be aentralized. The care for the evils of that country was to be expected only from the zeal and activity of the resident Gentry sod Ila gistracy of Ireland, to dirtying into effeit the adminis tration of the law. Bat tholes he felt it his duty now to oppiee the motion, because Ise deemed it otireasonible at present, yet he was litatid - . 16 say that te who not to inquiry at a proper dote Intl the ova of trilled. At present There ivere'other and bett er teemm.of entertain ing klie . vis• causes;of the distoritancei in. Ireland, than throogh the medial of. a Committee of the House. lf, however, it should be reeds:id emissary again to propose the renewal of the Inearreetion Ad, he should feel bit* self Wood to propeee a serilusinquiry into the causes of the disturbances which bad so long distracted Ireland. The ipeech of the Hon. Baronet was calcullted to shod the difficulties which would attend an hnolif at present. • He could not join with him in thiaking that the evils of • Ireland arose - from backWardness of Parliament to make concession; to the Romeo Catholics. If, .01r. G.) should ' think 'that if a Committee was organised upon each as .elesomptinn, it would be arrogating*, itself *hat ought to he the badness of the whole House. The Hoe. Baronet leis beconsistent with himself, for • he at once attributed. • tit{ me evils to a superabundant population, and also to the' lantrideoinistration of Government. But sorely Govern ; •mentiverenot responsible for the excess of thepoptalatioe,. .The evil; of Ireland were of a double nature ; one skald "mai oingoveraftee a system, which could not be removed ' unless by a series of remedial measures; and the other of I temporary nature which required more prompt and eli, elent measures to suppress it. Measures of a temporary and permanent nature were, therefore, to be adopted.— .tt coed not be said, that by edocatiog the present gene- radon, the immedlatt i otitries in Cork or Llmerickcootd_, •leput a stop to — ( Heat ). ' • But still the ditsetolnatios of blessings of ednado@ would proddee certain fruits, dud our posterity *bold see the froiti of it in times to ease. The H 99. Baronet Lad compared Ireland to Scot •land and Wales, and referred to the effects which general edrication, distinct from religious education, bad tie produced; but he (Mr. G.) extremely doubted tie tenth of all comparison of this statute. He eoald not admit a comparison, when there wet Ise analogy in the habitat* manure of the people. The Hon. Bart. had contended flaatthe Capitulation of Limerick was lOteoded to tokfer thlisa•the Romad Catholics all those rights which they dew cialined. ' 'He (Heir. G.) Would not, latowever, mire that antiquated q uestion now with him. bat would only. say, that if too violation of the treaty of Limerick.. .. a cause of the establishment of the penal laws in Irela this cowitrf had tang sin* made atonement for.7th bet, by a repeal of those rigorous laws. And ip eon dour the Honourable Baronet bound to *Gigs another tante besides the operation of the penal law; since the disturbances still continued in Ireland, after those laws bad been repealed. This: however, was a subject II . Which he wished to touch bat lightly.• If, ' merely to protest against the medoo as tualeatleabla I present, but he wished • at the same tihre tOliecited bil . disposition to enter at any &tire thee into sot* 'in in. quay as seemed likely to be itttioded,tritk Ify gaol or .preetield noirseqneilees. . Colonel DAVIES supported the maim He notelet. od that if the Committee sat for a single week, or eves for a single day, it would produce some good, mit would 'he a p'edge that the House bad the peace end interment Ireland at heart. For Isis own pert be was convinced that conciliatory and not coercive mensnlesVna benefit' faked, awl •shOttld'iler Okras* the renewal of . {tie , Insitirectils Aet..• He laMeoted that ail the Puhlic be ,diiiilii treliind tee continually Claniouriog'forlhe ap . - plrcittiOn 'of Mori' force. TbirAddresi if. the Coonty of Cork, which he held is. his band, resounded with cries of• o force, forci.". from one sad tit •emother. .Goventelent adbeen too long acting limier walnut views with re ,do Ireland. irelaad. Why, be eibidobodid that country be slide an eireption to-tkii. ilibeilmete of the empire ? Inlaid any Gentleman say that the law was tdoiniftged is Ireland as it was its this . country.'• "He 'D.) had Ito X 4441.4 beeitffiliereliatieetZt;that thilaw ails ally ad fist ' " ' , ititillithf, 'Ulf - ' the % A 1 t i t s ; sure; titit thes =t s t i tt il t the e dos MIN, iiiiiiiiind waiditiaitat e . bet s e • . • ifiltutokbirlia •thisciPmeisitatitetshrek % am 31%, .. 10 , 22 r to ..!c•rth, .., te'. ~ • • • i",:..•!vt -. , • THE STATESVAN • : • •1. ayi it i of su t e r:l n :F r ig "d eem t t i c :at ) lli aC e ll ifim ja.l4 °....fih ; - elt i I % iir . .co keys* closely connected . a rTi r t i s e ili s redoes soy . p- In Ireland. Whatever of ejk n eli; hiinr, there might be upon this su tt the at.. urge!. of Itelead were if moment a natatalltat .• to iiiinld be lost in hapdring into. them. — Fir an 'Mess, "he pbeisid g is l ifsmriet,ilo4l4l support to the melon. N. JOHN SMITH supported the motion. He sal that at thii time it was the bounden duty of English Nentirtro to attend to the affairs of Inland. Be sail Mae surprised at the speech of the if Hos. Secretary • for Ireland, mover rtiewierly at.this Oise. - it pl o t 48s echo W 1 rWwWY sash 11 5 Shl/ * ti t s 6 ,a 6 _ epee similar occasion. •,had s 1 aye NIP .".•'"'". 7 sera Pistrialt _.__an hitt*, 1 1 ,s , she Sten of *inked. lb knew of es tesseare to which an inquiry was pasted. except in :the lair case of the Pfilef the* of the Rechil Tier. but that was but a small portion of the gricieimm colipleitted 'A He Muhl give eVidence of the most Katie Ad e l e elolithio of the lasi ip /retest Tb*Ralle lat nataiiillralllitMell4jxl4o4 es es it . 14 tali PWS4IO7I._ sr hula "re t 010 oi 7 es er gm people are w.mmi Int the ,00 e.o, It nothlpti &inv." ' RC was di sponi' fo salt yr!fy $ • Catholic ',NI Om we; not settled leleouse pray or another? Weald any Man ear that it is not a warn of. the greenlet iniiil Lion ? It was in vain to expect peace until that wee settled. There were es many oolnts of lis; to be inquired into.tbat it appeared te him to be attain*, ill on the per tof the House to iinittite an ineatil pales. Whit. after yeara or massacres and riots iblrelied, wore they to he told sow thettbie isiiiitig - tleie for inquiry / Unless., change took plaM is the opinions.qf (MO of the other safe; ied gt eiter ittOciii A on his owe they•Orinid pi on ;ail* same Conroe until the time When inquirynceld be Opt of their inner. PM _N; reasons he should vote for the tootien or then*. Bat . 'kir. ItOBBILTSON•aiItert iris it possihis' Shhe WI people of ffttiod emit • lie Contented *oder tips pm* sYs • , Of thiverpasent I' it *0 not in' heMen papaw chit At millitins of people cool( aid* to sit gently under disqualification, and in an inferior condition to • small minority. The bestial system of penal law, _l4 bees so contrived in that' ciroorri as tie ficnetrit t eht bosom of families and set father •aisfinSt 'eviii. W had Ireland to thank 'the Britioh‘GivViliinept for, lit S; *arse of the last ceatel. • Upon ono occasion w h e n gra bands of the British 'Eleveroosebt were 'belplesi, tihiii the Navy of France rode triufuphant iq thq Chattel!? GO whom did they rely for the defence of 3re4and ? ~ _Ai Protestants were too small a number ,, 040 tie Wham cline fitneiliiiiid bordWitimedthemsekvee ntalosts comma enemy: - Op that ?Oils:, it f4enilier of Irtsh Pirlinsient, Mr. ISltegef , - 60410 to aAi . lit enable Catholics tWtelti p, y 04 . sus 44 . 01 pores! , t The Bill . was. faiSiliAi ; s.fveriel•Cateli oar armies* In America were 4414 11l %hie* oat berse..of distrust and difficaltr, we did not hesitate to •allow Catholics* . hold land by lease for a term of 910 rani. In strati; the British Governmest sever made a wineeision to km land that was sot extorted ley her flirt • Wl4t ,llliith. had the one!! of Ireland to thank the • Hillklik, %ma, • meet for. wity h i n ii i i t irlit defend on IT theis was Go bap{ of peace for . 1 9 ardi ;kg wb9le: Partisiii•A‘ Were. put on a perfeettleality with each other, as to 01 141 rights. The first sfep to be taken with respect to Ire land was to remove 4e dissensions if that country. No cipitalist %you'd invest hie money in sects a country. No manufactures could Sourish there—the people's minds were too mach galled and irritated to receive &aviation; from education. • The distioctiOn which • the law made between Catholic aid feloteetiiet. tired'uP 114 BM eel*: eity which etieted 10 Inititiid. Lej ithererlliOann.llll equality; and die - PfoleiaiFied Cath_olic "maid be in lieland as they wertrtn - Siltierlind A Pliiala. sad tier- Many. He thoaght 'the f,ferise stao4l4 preen* , first of ell, to show the 'strongest derienitgrs of a wish to *edema the grievances of lrelattd.' ' ey ihonld abolish, alt penal laws meeting Catbai, y demos; ;hey' should give stipends to 'their Clergy, but demand no. secitritiei. Could any eon deny that She Minister oftimi . Established Church bad failed io seal and diligence when it turned oat that their Socks were daily 16214 in the proportioas which a few years they maintained of the great mass of the population. Their stipends shoe* he reduced, end thee would they becime Ministers of the Gospel, It to compete with the *edit and indefati gable Clergy of the Roman Catholic persapion. Thu lion. Menitier'said'he skeild support the *mutant, and hoped a Conical*oit would be lint over to Ireland to the summer. ' ' • Mr. C. HUTCHINSON expressed his utonishmest that it should be 'said by the Getitterneo on the of side, that it was Mit* too late in the Session to think of . . . . . of itmelry. Did those Gentlemen bow any thing - tai eittatfoo of freland ? 'Woold theY matron to say as Men of honour that Ireland woadsot be ix a state of rebellion in less than • a fortnight ? If the Ministers well, not ready to yield.qp their points of dilfertece, and agree upon advising some . remedy for the state of • I ad. they were not Worthy of holding their i rk aces. . What hope was titers of ' good to . relasd, wins is a few - days the Secretary for Inland , *to had that tight avowed hie opiniont 'pea ' a vital question with respect to Ireland, and' itotild,retorn to 'that country, in order to 1144 his Mansell' Lord Lieu tenant, who it was notorious entertained. totally oppo site views open that question. What hope was there that the peace of !relied would be promoted by an A4l- Ministration Composed, of each diseorda n t materials ? The Hon. Member forcibly showed the. necessity of a speedy . remedy being applied to the pranat.iipin of Ire land. • He said be would, for the Wm, 'Pt epee rity, vote for' the reamer Or toe: . 44' 114 'be trottld also insist epos inengultl. ' ' • hir..UANKILS. motor . . appeal. the:modes of Sir IL Parnell ; sad in reply to tel ihiervatleini of as Mon. Member (Mr. &bums), be wield , elk that macro sietaphincias,' whether the conciliation he proposed would fain the totarreitions itChninid. It was well known that an ettensisn'eatippirmy 'eitieted on the Intri of 'the retire ' bulk of the peoplisttptiCrted by secret oaths ; and that the object of the Compintors was to ex *Pala an wk? T 041114 a differeot ,reljgiort frees their eifirs.- . —(CAes of No . no. and hear, hear.) Nothingniield be more certain than that such conspiracy did exist.; sod ' that thiolijoet 'of the toespinitors . wee • to infirpateand seize the property of the minor part . of the pOintlatlon. The Parliament bad already' conferred many and great .benefits on Ireland. He had osier:bites a party to. tb i t liaise tbe Wanted and wasirieved it had fir li en place, for It hertransported the Parliament and ill 4 siiir . Maideot gentryfrorn tbateonotry ; *MA; !)y. that intatt i e, bad ' Weenie greatly inpoverilhet. ' With regard toy tuts tithes, he btlieved they were a rad gries.in#e 'Ka, reg . • burden, ',luck ougbetor be reutofed i tk Moe eitymiiiih :g.,; and then the questioanf.Catholie is*.wipetios,.otbe . seem' rein. 'At all eicute„ OA,. i'kWely neoginnry I. - pass the present MIL _ .„ ~. • • ,:.:,, ~..•- ... _ _ _. . -,' Mr. RUITOTSON enyiefaelL • Mt Aw‘aussailpitio .Hotiourilibilientleiiian's minion. iesilembledielliesp port any Phis that welt ii bilifthlesoilisialllmi Pa . Ireland. . • , . ..., 1 ,,, , Mr. HUTCHINSON also explaleed. ° • ' 'stir. MARTIN (of Galway) sailihntstNownsittee was stow sitting on the 'Rain of lirelass4 sad them wie gie• thing which - li).s *a. Friend mild . ree is the .m. , •thXtliaii not come under the coosi . ratios of ope,; swatter. Al to Catholic sannicipation..llo did astballeibr thit were it granted it Weald have any set whatever fa. ' pattinidowe the rebellion that eow . primatied is o lei c. vies if Iron* He believed that .if tbie Hen, r, wl fro now pain out* ioncilittion, rt. to rod, . ... i : :° 4 ' " be 4 S V VI OOP lA. If:r . N .. Ai, .it h eTp tee*. mai --) ~, rco Of ...a f flonripielott o tt liith '. . 4 • ill *Si WWI Way won i*d .".' tMit b6m thaltrst . i iiiiictir. dos maid be Fives to all clams of _peoill;. sod t )t !ty Wail iiiiatootitrittal - oiiiiiiiibil bigi 44 1 4, - ge . amid not ko4 oljodiog to ibp looomption Aetoolliolt, . AS II f ' sooaudi'i &erbtoo, lot bothUnoreoefiott, Vale _ - e 4 :14 , 1 t eiskepropossis to Captein Rock. that rebel weld **tc - .... his head to be cut of (Laughter. Mr. S. RICE desist that die laserreetka Aet WV Oen productive of any benefit •in any part of (Reload— ' when it had been carried into effect. As to the Coe• pinee now sitting on &satin of Ireland, its objest was vary limited, and could not be minsidond as a sebelitale fer 'oscillation. The real arse of the miseries of Ire- IP .0c Pler-11. Aciesdatios. anal delessement of ode people ; and that debasement arose "stet ' agent. as was evident from the character whltll% e i In all other countries. Arise Pupae* pep grout 404110*e Oat t asithesWetrspeest long osaybdried of were the elate of that systentel emorei. 4" 00 cleoiesl that then was as *al idedailthatiek or Joshes there for the rich "ad the poor. This beat* mate en she authority of a Noble Lord holding the (ilk. ; eat judicial authority in Ireland, wire said that there was cote law for the rich and another for the poor, sad Ilia; they were both equally ill adesinietered. la althea to eit - the most rigorous eoforeemeet of the limbs Ireland: lied it would only be by arch enforcement, and not by - Insurrection Acts, that distarbuces wets to be pet * stop to. The couseepcnce was, that the whole of . the northern pait of the eounty of Cork, which was subjected to the Ineuniktion Act. was in coatineal disturbance.-- The soother' part, which was sot yet expos ed to it, was perfectly tranquil. Galway , which was from this Act, was another ;e t : 1 1 4 1 , 6 , 5t a vireos" edministration d the laws by the ales or thatecionte was more 'ffitetnal in preserving the race than the meet mutemory proseedings. The principle - upon which helped might to be governed, and which would ultimately bed to as la pavement in .the state of society in thet wintry, was giving to the people triumph of just*, and asteal leg that the Uovernment would giviatriemph to *darer part. Mr y . D. BROWNE said that the disturbance in (Masi .. . was a peeper coup-Iraq against the property of the ouritry, and be was, therefore, of opinion, that the los& rect iop Act should be rigorously enforced. Sr JOHN NEWPORT said that that*wholeblime of the present state of Gilead lay at the deers of th ese who misgoverned it for tweety-4ree yam. 'neve woe bridded of time at which the House did any thing to twfit that country. Whey any Measure was brought fiererriird far the benefit of that country at a pried of Wanqiilllity, they were always met by saying the country was now trsattlds,3. l l4 Os filisterb ha When tbb questiosif &Union wes brit agi ' rild not Mr: Rtt Illy that the consequence of that measure wield be to eat. :needy all the evils with which that smug was affikted ; be OM aWeetrtheeir years experience of that moustre, they Were all still found to exist. Even Lord Orenyilie here soidthet Ireland would be justified, notin solicit& .14 but in demanding redress, if ju stice wire denied her after 'th e promisee held Out by the - Union. Whei I relied coo 'prated ti the Union. said that Noble Lost, this cue*" .ifallbenod in the sight of 004 aid SIP to forride Ihr Its run; and if they neglected that duty they had sued a Limier which they bed op right to memo.— .At•* ' e ther in which Lard -Grenville and these words, thift4 int, aft PejelYeta of party, and yet the motion then 14011°FW.S4 ira•negativadoa theNreand of trugail- . ~ The 11 1 1; ) Hon. Member for Mayo talked ots pumper 1100. , • epiescv,leat he would ask who pauperised the Popk ? whs. ..... was it that alienated the affections of the people from the: -.••••••• laws ? The cause of the distrust of the people is the • ---. 'awes was that Act of 1783, which required that not only • • ..' the Sheri& but also theSub-sikriffs sbionld be Protest- mete. The latter were the efficient °facets, and they, d• ' terWardi committed a malversstion of )entice, by exclod lag Catholics from serving on Juries in cases between J. and Brotestants. (edited be bad even beard a gentleman from the north of Ireland go so far es to bole dier for the space of a century there bad not been. e. Softie Citholie on a Jury in his county, Was not. thiyse parked. a 'efficient cause for distrust*. ((tech a, (tateSf thingi existed in Kagliyail, would, It lie trawl)? Would it not be as distarbed as Irelaad are wat ?*They may pat.dowis iskarrectinWfor the moss* by sock ;eta as the present, bet every. doe they rosiarissi to theft they lessened their efficiency, sot so much bagasse raw all other coercive measurer they would wear oat; but lIW ~.4 cause. by their repeated exercise' the people would begin: •,, to know their own strength,and form the habit of rt ai u- 4tia once; they would soon kern to diregard their severity.—e,.. d ,i 2 A Government which could only maintain its domisione,,, K over six millions by force, cannot, and ouLlet sot be ee-. , .. 4 . dared ;be repeated that a Oevernment, Whose act* wen ~. aceoptpanied by no measures of conciliation, upset had oleo not be endured . He bad lived forty years in (re • leed.'aod knew the people well. He knew they were. gratifel for benefits. bet he also knew they were quick. nicely, and sensible to injury. And certain he was. that if the Huse refined the inquiry sow celled for, they would pt have occasion to regret their neglect.' He felt, . be could not say less, bolding himself responsible to bin country for his conduct, when such measure was pro posed, a measure that west to put his• countrymen, out of the pale of the Constitution. Ile was aware that the Noble Marquees now at the head of the Irish Govern ment was disposed to do good. as far as he was allowed; but it was Impossible that be could ever do any good while be acted is a divided Cabinet; bat asks all the Members of the Cabinet were cordially united la the wish to promote the good of Ireland. if his own brother were in the Admisistration, be would tell Parliament to with hold its confidence from him. There must be some ra dical defect in the Government of a country in which Ihe people 'were so discontented, and he therefore thought ail, aqiiitey ought to be granted.—(Hear, hear.) pro Mr PEEL said he would recall the attention of the .r . to the t two positioas before it. The use was. * ebettnitenoe of - the Inserreetios Act, and the ssoolo, Committettorloquiry. With regard to the dupes. fectiOe Act, kiwi said this was not a can for the evils ef, Itilead ; but Who was so infatuated as to look to that : swam as a permanent cure ? It was only resorted to te . Suet a teinporery emergency. If this Act were sot milled. Into *perishes), woold ak things get worse, and Perhaps Ultimately prevent '4 -remedial measures? Indeed kiwis, attnecemary.te disenu it, because every body admitted • its eceesityle meet the Proust evil. As to the snood. • pan, she Catlett* of Inquiry, who , os the ti.kb. el cite. would think of going into an inquiry, mikes 'W tfie extensive 'abject of isasce and education? Aker . deg . upon the isousistencies of someettbe In woo epokespos, the othe valui n g e Right Has. lune concluded by. &gait remindinthe Huse sk the propositions whisk were more immediately undisthelt. considetatioi. ' ' • . • Mr. it SMITH said, that it would be in vain te her for tvanquilliey in Irelud f ank l e coecilistoey manners : trite adopted. • 0014 pease be expected in thdtlitnilfsh, • wleifp,"thosaili the CatitelbS constlfated sseojetiV 01 i fit,td #l* Yililliikrit 4 . 24.* *MILLI I WIP j Sp) ii*Oftil libiopV _Ilitlls • no titCrbittl leaf. . > ari.a . PflalkafftisitkNSkaaihalfa lle . asas t s ki si, tie, and establish toe -web re lon ageiall-4, Os se epot, may. 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