The National Register. — London, England, 1819-08-02 00:00:00

, 24.4 MIL OWEA"S .PLANS. lontlay a meeting was hell at the City of Emotion Ti. ilet'', Hisleopsgote-toteet. to merit, Pie R. Dort ot she Committee eo ',Mord to 0•%4 ttt itt e Ali. ()wets'. Mitts, and to gore their uoittioos the' impost. Ity twelve o'clock the Brest Ko?oi onus crow-lied, and amongst the company there were several The Dukoof Kent, attended by Alderman Wood and several "Alemlo. is of the Ouroesittee. entered the room amidst loud applooses; and they took their seats on an ceveted pletforni. Psontine this platform there were models of ?dr.stilweu'is proposed villages spread over nn eoseiol siirloce to repreueent 1,000 ocriet of bind. 'I lie !Soled of Kent Hoot proceeded so 1'1.4 , 1 We RVlllltt, 6%l , Line that the Committee recomguended the adopti t io of Mr. (lames NWlls as far as the i aieiug of onto eilloge.— The &lin erihe is the epoi t '• I. That the Country is in great (Heves% it. That the principal (lose %hien occasions such distress it.. the .rapid inerrose of inschinery and other scientific power, Which crease perolactions more abundantly than the present attaisigamemts of society penult to be consumed. 5, 'l'hat machinery. and proluctire power from s cience, can ego now 6.4 restrained without crtating still greater evil:. 4. That if Fientilic productions total he limited, it would be it unwise to limit them. because, asohey .ocrte:e abundance o' all kindg, they ought, and may he made to be, Moldy useful advantageous to all rank, Soul elaszes.. i. That the only proper and neutral relief from •the existing r distress is. to ptepare jitilicmus practicable means, l il' klicb . grailifally. and without injury to any iadisidual, con e:Slip:Ka may h: raitegli to :Inc present power of ptoducti m, se-1 afterwartls mole to keep (goal pace with it . F. That this principle applied to practice will elevate the whole wale of society ; while the Opposite principle, now in or ictice, trust necessarily force the great mats.of the wort to descend rapidly into poverty and misery. • - 4 . That: 011ie all admit . " that something mutt be eonto" it wilt, the same time be admitted, that nothing tactual can be dine craning a great change, a change even (ruin adver tett. to prosperity. , ts. That Pailtament hasten promoted. without adopting any eflreetlremeoeures of relict' for the Poor; and thus hiss it been • • r.citly acknowleileed, that the Government and the Legidatute . boo: not sufficient preetical knowledge of the poor and working and of their concerns, to devise niesetiree foe their solid. • :I mean tin distusptiet by thoee observations, sighs to the Govern .• raiOit us the. Legislature; I merely state a eimple fact, admitted by , • 'O. 'Etat undeethese circumstances, an individual, unconn tested with chos or patty,. but who has devoted nearly thirty years to . exten.doe experiments tin Ole subject, •and. to acquire an accurate knowledge of the habits iuid eireumstanges of the poor and .forking cloeves, afters a n•otle of relief to see public on the priro • ' • ciple el raising consionotion equal to production, and afterwards to give a regolar.and uniform inererke to both,, by width means new seolth•will be alrundantly cr.eted. aud the toninuy won Isherated from its present ditreelties. 10. That this individual does lot wish to conceal from the puldic that this than;;: trill mor.; lose aff:et every clase and party in thelitate; but that he without a shadow of , bubt nanaining upon his own mind, Mat no individual, of any ; • drectiption. from the , highest to the lowest, wed suffer by the climate • cn the contraey. his conviction now is perfect, that . all nitro lee: great gainers. t. That. neveriki•less. he d.-sires no confidence to be placed in hi, conviction, however char and ttsong it trey be ; but he sake from the must res,:ectableond intelligent of all I/UW(la full, fair. and open inreetioation. t'!. Tleet lie asks hir this extended and respectable investi. li-stitch bceati-e the neccegide; °film country aro so urgent that they cement wait tor yenta of longer experiment: and a sound and ,ale puidic opinion, upon a sneject atli•cting all the vitol ittcre OS 01 the empiee, ought to be formed only after such an iuseatigatkin. • 13, Praise this individual. now, to the ottermost, and see, if it be possible Coot he can be influenced by any private motile or pergotialotsteet. .If, then his motives cannot be impugned—if his experieoce nos beciecorrcooly stated--if the country is to general eisr.":o43---if these are he; and he oily &dee for investicti ioa. r ill ;tot: ocastiffird Min the enquiry which hmeolicies ? Mr. doom then read a long sublets; to the meeting. He ob carved, that their Ol;Cet was to final out some practicable remedy far the aistrtsue; that now so eitensicely pervaded society—fliae trevees that afileial fourditihr. of the people, and -which calami ties were unknown to the other fifth. They hati beets spoken of to Parliament. btu Loth houses had loparoted. 'demist ailop.ing L•oy steam:is of amelioration, a proof that they were ignorant o e conies 'lithe distres s and stiereftre knew not whatzemedirs to IsJaiSt). Ara these thaw:ma would go on inerraning, except t ime still was adoptol to arrest them; au) eventually gib.% a t00..e of tt.tags moo .n.l in revolution.—(Souse marks of damp ibation.)—Tliat he D e ets persu.dcd was the truth. 'The cause our of the pattperisin which aflligsed the whole C,'ltrtfr t was exceseiee prod acnoti.—( I I ear, hear!)—Hut by Wig a? geld violence no permanent !moods% '55 to lie carted. To destroy it achinero, to put an coo to its ire, would be as impossible it so sheen the nitie..e of the ht.:evilly hsoths v; but the introduction of 'llk new power hod not improve.' the state of the working chaises, Is .refereeee to the condition of the manufacturer and the artizan proved. Sack improvement in society, however, might to eoprove the condition of mankind 1 then why was IL that there was so mei h discomeut, so much diorees ? llow was it that tan were egontraly to the irolculatiotis of all polideal economists ? It was litres's, the power of poeloction e.ceeded the coatis of consuirmiiint provided by misting logitutions. The remedy was, to limit the production ithin the means or constimption.--This was to be acosai phahed without creatimeilieoider resulting from siolence• llow that was to hr eltecied presented the difficulty. Ile had waited to rove whether other political ectommists would devise any sound reit:ciao, bus he had waitor in vain ; the truth was. they were ionorant of the remeilice. Plans had been sugoested e but they without aaelo.n, 'without practicaleil'ay. They could not gebask to . g i ro ptioeiples...he repeated the production: must be I :reined within the deinonels of conguniption, and this would c•omtially improve the condition of .r./1 mankind. lie hod deli. I. :rated maturely, and hie conviction was, that his pions could be carried into eeenition without evil Meeting; any one. Half a torttury agn the ifemand and she supply bore something like qual peoportions; but now Cse yeomanry hkd become labourers. bosatrie the aggregate increaeo of productive poser was r.ow ns Votive to one. lie again urged, that if the increaoel ability r o ate wisely directed. it would promote the greatest odsantages to ;S:ie's . . fly his Ohms dd.; benefit would be accomplishede— t e labo;irces would he protected, and would in time become te,;2l proprietors Ills plan* 'vete now fully digested; they %. ere thc rt salt of long reftaction and valuable ancient wisdom and modern improvemeote ; mod his expc• e'::!ee justified Trim in buying confidence. He-hat! been called • ei-ioaory." but those who called him visionary knew him not. 17 toom who apoliol such an epithet tallies' had seen what was in e ‘ ...o e n e tion in his own e.tablishn lent, they flight perhaps Its Se beiiire they tom! such language. (Heat.) The petictics li:'oe of the 'photo hod Mere hen nixie nionifiat. (Applause).lie hail ileocrihed liL. ohin4 at the recent l'reetnoernis' 114!! leotiiig • and lie now :vain repeated 01011. Intimating and tn .{:acin..l :hat lie hod easel Ly retCrence to his models of the pro _,sitretol t,.,tatAilua;ut. Ho (loth 11 , 411 C5W1134411 and eroafideixe , 4 111 E NATION AL REG STEEL Cu the ,* infant School" fur Children from three to six years of age, founded on what was &email/ in practice at his own eats olishincto, and which hail exceeded his most se:entitle expecte liens. lie thin trivet" the plans of eduratiag the youth of both sixes till they aeproached years of nueturity. A get:denten ticked w.atsbecarne of itberty of conscience in Mr. Owen's plans ? The Duke of Kent repeated the questior, obsessing. that Mr. Owen ilea bag courted the .pportuaity to speak on this Mr. Owen stated, that in his own establishment, whore there were 000 persons. and whit formal in man particulars the cundation of his plans. thete wee no religious animosity.. There were several religious establiehmenis, and the various inhabit ants, although ditleth ; in religious opinions, went amens-arm to their several churches. He made it s point to precut. any re ligious assistance that might be requited, and the consequence was the most complete harnmuy. He had, he avowed, a parti cular kr.owledge on this subject ; the nine for its complete pro mitigation had not yet arrival; but he Legged it to be under steed, that he trade his erinciples give way is the happiners of others. (.Applause) lie then proceeded with his statement, follhwing LAO desaiptions of his plans. His schruiew hail been attacked by different parties as of most prejudicial tendency—as injurious to the iaterests of the poor, tec. but such attacks were only the result of limited views of,the subject. Ile, however, should submit to any odium. rather than lead the public mind astray ; but he owned he was anxious that the sentiments of the people regarding • his plats should be set at rest, and with that view he proposed the apeointracet of Committees. The plans must he carried into effect nom necessity; extraordinary difficul ties demanded extraordinary remedies. (Applaase.) Besides the Committee, should has: the models placed in some large room in the Metnapolis. He es:whaled with reuiins a series of Resolutions on the distresses of the country, the useut machinery, &c. and dialering that if the Present state of things were allowed to cortirato, sonsey mast discard into a state of sbjeat poverty; and that the eiloption of hie plans would change adversity into prosperity. .lie did not (invite the country to act from his con vit thin ; he wished that the intelligentof all cleats should give his plans a fall, fair, and open invatigation. Ile had no pri vate motives to gratify, no partial intemsts to pursue; and as his objects were beyond auvpicion, would they deny him investiga thm ? • (Apple' 'et) Sir. W. Criepigney then desCribed the motives which in duced him to notice Mr. Owen's Plans in Carliament. He saw the extensive slistftss—its beheld the poserty that everywhere pervaded, and lie theft fore felt that something must be done, for he viewed with horror the system of traitspor tug his fellow coun trymen to far distent and to barren soils.—(linntense applause.) He would adopt .: spy plans that would avert so dreadful, so ape .palling, s 9 ataieting a system.—(Continual applause.) • Aml when Mr. Oeen dec'ared that Isis plans would preside for the popithuion, even if it increased four-fold, were they nut to inves tigate them ? A great objection to Mr. Owen's system was, that it made man too much of a machine. Ile eared not how much tai a machine they made of mart so long as thathange led to vir tue and prapesity ; but he would ask them. if- man were not a machine would he not be a savage ? —( Hear, hear thought the country was greatly indebted to Mr. Owen, but, he grieved to state, that he feared insuperable difficulties would resole from the want of means. While millions and thousands could be ex. puttied in necessary and unnecessary wars ; in extravagant grants and establishments; in pulling down streets and promoting fen t:4o impravemints ; when plans to ameliorate the poor were mentioned. not one penny could be obtained from the Ministers ; the plans were visionarf and itupracticable—( Hear, hear I)—He concluded with moving that the Report be confirmed. Mr. Teolte seconded the mation, expftrsing his eonvietion, thin the most beneficial results could hardly tail to result from a single ex terime itt of Mr. Owen's plane The Duke of Kent, in putting the Resolution, expressed the hope that all who might address the meting would keep to die point; that they would steer clear of politic-. (Applause.) Ale. Low denounced the plans as calculated really to mak, mee machines. to deprive them of that spirit ef.indeperideuice and liberty which might ba deemed the great stimulus to good actions.—(!hits, hear!)—The plans would aiso.increa.c the pro duce of those articles which were already too easily produced,and a Lich was avowed to be one et the causes of the extensive distress that now txisted. The plans might be practiesble where them mesa ailonie-s to be formed, but - here they aottid be most pre- Mr. Thelwall had no objection to man belt; made a " ma chine" where intellect was the moving spring, where the mind was to be improved; and he imagnied that " machine" had been mentienexl in that sense, and that the plans were aelculated to improve the condition of society. The Resolution was, then put and agreed to, with two dissen tients, Mr. R. Nlootagu, the Barrister, and another. Sir S. C. Jervis ohserved, that the fact of others having slevised plans, proved that Mr. Owen had already dune good ; and moved that it was enpedient to promote an estaLlisluneat on Mr. Owen's 1.1. n, by way of experiment, NI:10r l'orrens cordially agre,sl in the resolution to promote an establishment on Mr. Owen's plan by way of experiment ; but he prorated against all the interencet drawn by Mr. Owen, that if his plans were carried into execution, there would an end put to pooreates, pauperism, Ae. Such expeanations were wholly visonary. (Hear, hear !) The causes of distress were not from the use of mach•oery and capital, as described by -Mr. Owes—it resulted from the erroneous system of our cant lawe, of teaceoli silt, leather, A.e. and the excessive presure of taxation on the working classes, (Loud applause.) It was this excessive taxation that pendia-el industry, raid rendered capital unproductive : it rotipelled indaery te emigrate, and gave the products of other iountnes advantre;e over our own.. (Appiause.) lie denied Mr. Owen's principles respecting the limiting of consumption within the menus of prodace; and declared, particularly as applied to agricolture, that the ta:ia of produce diminished as capital was increastd If SQ.O.limited the consumptioa of the produce (lithe villages to the villages themselves, he at otter pet an end to that division of. labour by which such miraculous efkets haul bees Sc. complishial; and wee that to bo desired ? lithe produce were nut to bs limited to the villages, then the division of labour would ~how its efts% and what was to prevent those gluts in the markets, the coaseelences of which were now so severely felt tepplames.)—Notwithstending emigration hail been protested egainst. beeleclared that it was the best syatein that could he !c -lotted to under existing .1-ctunstances; Sad he dnied that there was any degradation in it. Mr. Rot:croft said, the condition of our manufactories sliewed the torrowness of advice given to the Knee:ref Alexander— " Never mind manufactures. ettend to your Laid. your cattle, and your people." Ile observed Viet soanthing must be done ; and the pre-sent Oar., if talopted, could he stopped, should it not answer, and advanced with increased farce sboald it he success ful. (Hear, hear The Hewitt:ion ass then put end agreed to. Mr. Roweroft tten moved . that vary Cie plan into execu tion. tio,clol. be naiad by general ult.:emotion • that books be at opened Nlessso, ayne's, and Co.'s, on the understand mg that the stuns should Got be railed for till after another Gene ral Meeting be coavened to determine on details, &c. The Duke of IC it. in putting this' Resolution, announced solocriptiitos of IMO!. from J. Smith, Esq. ' ALP, 1.0001. from Air. Ditto. Ott. ;leNniation ascreod to. Several other subsc.iiir tioas were afterwalls anoullne,d. Thanks hevir..z Wen voted to the Duke of Kent. his Roy.l Highness returerd I,;s ack,ewledgrent,, end moved teen's to Mt. Owen, which motion w %reel to, and the I,tc:izi ad journed at si..c o'clock, Aucrrs FROM SATURDAY .wcurs GAZETTE. Gaol: as Y. R. By lah lama! Hight', ma tkr Miner of Wale', Regent 4 Ihr• Ulliit'll 1/ . 1,11100111 of Garat Haitian and Irthtaid, iat tat mime 4114 on the helt..lr 01 hi. M A PROCI. t HATI()S. Whert.A4 ii, di‘ part. 01 . Googol Britain enretin:s of large nomb..tii nl bis 31.aji•to)'6 astkirein halm beer held typo tin riorr•olloilapersOlSP, Mho, or ouire of whole,. have, together nab others, by atllition% and 'miserable' sperelien,i.likeisett to the perromasprinoteol,eitileavorteir to Wing into batted roil rolltritipl. the o,,vislimfat and c on oi tu f n a s e.tablisheil in Ihi► and particularly the Co 000000 ono WIN, or Pat haricot, sail to 4.7 trite eliaobr invitee to the taus, and inoursectiou again.' Ilia Majesty's aittburitv. And whereas it hath been represented onto Ili, that At one of such meetings, the pea S4/114 there assembled, in gi tow 'loins ion of the Law, did attempt to constitive and appoint, and did, as ls as in thein Inc , consti•tite and appoint 4 Iltig ,, oll Olen 1111 l name and o n their behalf in the Common§ Husite Of F r atliauoba ; and then e to reasontwbeheve that other hirelings are about to he held for the like unlawful impose. Anti whereas massy wicked and sedition% writing% bate been pritited, poildished, and huh ls ll Musty cut-lastest, teinling to promote the al purposes aforesaid, ashd to raise groundless jealousies I disemitenta in the minds of hi. Mdjesty's faillariol awl loyal subjects. ad'whet'esoo, we have been further given In OnliCrllailh,. that with."' view of the better chaining themselves so 'me y into effect, the wicked purposes afroesaid, bt wee p aria ot the kingdom, men clandestinely and unlawfully assem bled, hare praeti , .eti military t gaining and exercise. Acd a herrn* tilewelfare: nd happincos of this Kingdom do, under Disuse Providence, chiefly depend bloom a due so bin Isston to the lane, a j t n ll3111:C Oil the iategrity sod a Mont of PurliaMent. :tea t stead) perievcrance in that attachment to the I;ownotoot and Constitution of the I(Cal111, which 11:11 ever pre•ssled in the minds of the people thereof t and slits ext. there is nothing which we so Cal ifi:, bs t.o preserve the public. peace soul prosperity, and n) secure in all his Mio jest'' , liege solojet I. he motor enjoynwni of their rights sand Fibre tics. %%e, t herelote,. twin.; resolved to repress the niched. seditious, nod treasonable prat cirri iiforcrtii:l, have thought fit in the m o re and on the helialf of h.§ Alajest), and 11,, and a itli the usle ice of hi. \ 11604) 't Privy Cost. sit, it) issue Coss our Royal Proclamation, so. tenuity warning all his Majesty's liege sultjects to guard 0.:,i1i1144 retry attempt to overthrow the I:.w, and to a/In:rot the Covernmt la so happily established within Ilai. Realm ; and no abstain front every measure inconsiiteon with the peace and good order of ureter'', and corn. silly cehortong them, at . II times, ani t.s thc atiothA of their vetoer, to assist and discountenance all proceedinso tending to produce the Cl6l Cail`ila above olescr.hcil. And we Jounceds enjoin all his Majesty's loving subjects to &Omar from the prai tice of all such military transit g, nod e set e ise, ns aforesaid, us they shall answer the contrary thereof :At 'heir pe.d. And ac do chaNts and command all She. iffs,Just ices oi the Price, Chiet Nlagi.hate.. of Citini, Boroughs. anti Corp:). ions, anti all other ltsgistriteatlirousluiut Great Britain, that elle, do, within their respective jurisdictions, make dilia gent enquiry in order to discover out bring ' , liaise:co the authors and printers of such wicket, and seJitioui writings, as aforesaid, and who shall circulate the same, and that they do use their hest endeavours to bring te justice all pet* ,on. hu have been, or may he guilty of uttering seditious speeches and harangues, and all persons concerned in :Any note or ot.ktv.fnl tissenWlicA, as !Leh, nu tihuliver pntrat they ma) he grounded, are not only contrary to law, hull dotigetous to the most important interests of the Kingdom. • Given at the Come at Cathon.llnu-e, this SCith day of July, iu the. 59th year of his Majesty's reign. Goo save Ins KING. IThisOnzette notifies, that the Prince Regent has been pleased to direct letters patent to be passed tinder the Great Seal of the Unites! Kingdom for granting the dignity of a Baronet to Alexan der Allan. of Kingsgate, Kent, Esq. Lieutenant Colony? in the service of the East India Company, and to the heirs male his Leidy lavdully begotten,—.lt also mentions the appointment of' Mr. J 41101114 to be Coned at Gibraltar tie the Kingdom vi Hanover ; and the appointment of G. G. Day, E.q. of St. lve,, in the mom,' of liontmgdonsio be a Muster Extraordinary :a the High Court of Chancery. CROWN OFFICE, JULY 31. ME MBE RS returned to serve in this present P A LI A 'AIf:NT. Borough of Eye.—Sir Robert Gifllud, Knight, his Alajesty's Attorney General. Borough of Nlilhorne Port.—Robert Mathew Cusbenl, Esq. of the Middle Temple. London. Burghs of Pintos/etre. Anstruther Easter, Ansanither Wester. Kiltenry. nisi CraiL—The lit. lion. Sir Wits. line. of St. Cattle. times Bart. His Majesty's Advocate for Scotland, in the room r 4 the don. A. Mac110:10el ie. who has accepted the office of Lcact Session and Justiciary in Scotland. 11W9ERVIvITIES SUPERSEDED, T. Goode, Hinckley, Leicester, hosier. S. Young, Manchester cotton spinner. • BANKRUI . I's. I. Taylor, ltfa:shiffield, Gloucester. ineahnan. Stephen Miller. Kinsworth. Tore maker. 11. B. Ashby, Budge Row, copper plate printer. 11. Park, Tatleartet, Yotk, butcher. • W. Bloomfield, MD. Iltsti %V. Ll:oonifield, jam. Walwo:th. bricklayer. J. Hartley, Red Gate Court, Minoriet, merchant. A. M•Natr. Abchurch Lane. nwrchant. DIVIDENDS. Aug. 3, J. Mayers, Yarmouth, Norfiilk, merchant-3, F. Brodley, King Street, Portman Square, upholsterer-7, C. Cran don. America Square. merchant.-13, I'. J. Gaugain, Church Street, Soho Square, jeweller-le, T. Simmonds, Maidstone. Kent, Wine mesoh..nt-3, E. Smyth. St. Slat tin's Court. shoe maker-34;C. Magee. Whitehaesm Warnberland, deskr— ze. Green..llpper, - Areley, Stafford. farmer—T, It. Sewell, Piccadilly, -coal merchant-26. G. Strong. Exeter, dealer -43, J. Duabury. Nline'r.ecter, d. aler-21. R. Edgar, Hammond's Court,Mincing Lane. wine rrierchtuit-2i.S. Venue, Mark Lane. Sept. I, IL W. Vanden:left, Narrow Wall, Lambeth, oil mer chant. CERTIFICATES to he granted Aug. 21. G. T:uhnan. New K.t.t flood, straw hat munu.'acturer—W. 1.. Itrowoo and T. II un ter, Wood Street, warehousemen—W. Blackburn and I'. C. Roussa4u, City Ilcatl, corn deaLrs—W. troll J. Shirley. Shelton. Stafford. putt. rs---1;. Cooper, Walton upon Thames. brewer—G;. Kershaw, Essex. shopkeeper— J. Londe. Tokenhouse Yard. merchant—J. A rEss, Newgate Street, printer—J. Ewbank, Little 811115 Lane, Qum.' Street, bottle merchant—W. Pearl. Northampton Street, Cleat:awl], rti,itez --J. arid E. 11. Tuckett, Btitaol, grown.