The Statesman. — London, England, 1814-05-03 00:00:00

THE ffr ATE'SiikR. ..• s• / 81 /411404.044q441111,11?. . • . Homo iDapoutateut,, Who peopetty Wurresitiodr 'the same to tie lipid Fleet wises ) wit whit* the said il -rms.-- • leyJ feek vete refouded. • -s• • gOUSE'OF LORDS, MAT Q. . 44 Th.s rut Peti‘eser appiied te Mr. Woodalwge The Order far the consideration of the Claim re- • •• - . : far Isis of in order to mod theologies to a Mi r "meting the Airly Peerage, was, upon the motion 1 . tree, Jos t but it was refusedso that the officelis of the Lord Chlnceilor, postponed from Thursday •• . I of the priten neither sent said affiduit to the Magis neat until to-morrow se'nnight, for which day the i trite till as above-stated, nor did they enable Peti- Jukes were ordered to he summoned. glllll=l== ilaliiii liistier, 'Mb - ..operation of resentment and ranedbr i lsog the contempt he' is iiipriebited for the denial ; natevaity to be caliulaied upon, and this kilt that is, he is punished for denying a fecnhood. But arid but tesslargeg scope for the gratificatiee el lige system of fiction *.o traitentiett r i!1 firiber. 7 - feelings. liereen'the Report already referstkl 1 4 - Isiginall*.aithALactisms.accLl.rjj a jailf4S4uUlt • it appeared that a'Plaintill was not bound to de- • CemmoiteSsall :' bat tbir df- tleurtnit's I ileserfbis declaration until the end of the nest term leibirthe writ is retorisable, so that seven months isilisityllapse before the Plaintiff need apprise the De- to Itave 4hare of li Ulli brl6l. aril iem tit .. I y le - LTHETITT. . boner, by putting the affidavieinto hisliand to send felorient of. the ground of action, and he might delay it to a Magistrate himself. s, • e- 0 tar 'eft of the eitialei: althouelettite peeer had As trial of that action for five months afterwards. not at all been violated:; th e Chturt •of' Beebe. , Lord STANHOPE rose, pursuant to notice, to - • call the attention of the House toithit subject, and ; " That, after your Petitioner had regularly re. -Thee an individual might be imprisoned for twelve goer, an order also ter Midi ' cipete of*the strolli With he expressed his persuasion, that what he had to ' 4 0' 4 th° said allowance, the same was .suddeoly months upon the mere oath of a Plaintiff s without•ltrisWdlteeztend its ferieffietieneseie civil itedoirei : ey state with regard to the violation of Civil Liberty sto pp ed foe Si;n- nay.e weeks, •previous to his discharge • trial or verdict; and if upon trial the veolictidie fiction of charging thee/41644,w with Wet* 'a and common humanity, under the law as it at present der the general Insolvent Act, tholieb he still scull - should be in favour of the Defendant, he could have debtor tel. th e King , tete' llitteley Vire dirt the as aoh existed, particularly in consequence , of the-arrest Hued in the extreme of poverty' sod distress, and eecompence from the Plaintiff but his taxedcostshfcreditolewas rendered utrablet he 'Pay te debt to the upon esesne process, was such as must excite the as- i was not sepersedable, nor entitled by law to be disheln fact, the Defendant in such a case had no remedi 4Ki I ng, a though no such debt'etisted. :Oete thus the one' wider any Insolvent Act. i whatever, unless he could prove that the Plaintiff is $ action was extended, to elkend the seedidalous profit tonishment, and interest the feelings of every one 1 66 That in consequence of your Petitioner having i arresting his, was actuated by malice, which in most ibf law ye rs , and Whit it the'eppresvioleWilte who heard him . Before he proceeded to this state-1 tleotelt. been so reduced from absolute want and confinement, ; cases would be impossible. But if a Plaintiff should 'Fiction ' ho wever, derehtittrelleiteh bveiterintieht was on the point of death, and would, as he Teri- 'leers the country, if he should:emigtate to America,lStatote, it was prerioribed thee two litemeit i . . believes, and has been informed by a medical oraisewhere, arid before his departeredetermine to ' should become pledged tosproseeuee it: elteritotio• ti, jeutteman who attended him, have perished during weenie his vengeance upon any man, or number of iiitiiihsa view to give some' security trehelwedefloident, _ - his confinement, had met the Keeper of the prison, i men, he might by his oath deprive such man or men But how did the lawyers contrietetsietidetitis,prit to order any imprisoned peuper an allowance offli. per diem; .which • allowance their Lordships would • Mr. Nixon, permitted him to walk out into the rules .of liberty ;—and if friendless, unable to obtain bail, - vision ? Why, by introducin g the two iietiiifiedet hea dil y f ee t to be sham m y scanty, especially where and that neither he nor hie wife have ever since reco- ! condemn him or them to several months' imprison- names of John Doe and Rice/Lt R.otehsfThe whole d their f ormer health. , a prieutter.should have a wife and family to support. verei sent, without any refuge or means of remedy what- system, however, relative to deft Weans was defec- Bet before even such an allowance was granted, at " That during his said miserable confinement, : ever. Such were the cases which might occur—such tive—was frauJolent, affortlinis scope for the ptun . plisonmetaust swear thit lie-is not worth 101. in the Petitioner has witnessed several instances of persons • the .injustice and oppression to which people were dering practice of lawyers ' which fully jestided the . world. s till a s ter that oath the prisoner was con- • who were nearly perishing from want ; and that he - rimmed in this country, which boasted the honour observation of Wilkes, witte,- when asked why Silr eemned to remain in el situation of wretchedness was acquainted with a brother prisoner of the ulnae -of Magna Charts; and in this country, too, people Brook Watson should be generally so severe hi Ms and starvations unleueg it .appeared from a petition of Teal, who lived for three whole elays . oat- sigh*** liable to be so imprisoned without clothing or animadversion upon the law lairs-? - said', " Don't you which he held in Itielutod s respecting the Flewe l s ais sepotatoes ; auti-aleo .that he knew several deaths in , bedding, or even medical assistance, except in some see that he has lost one leg by a shark." [ed iintels.9 . son, than hirleenter anietiatedchte pay illegal. ken ,u-ieensequesco of the effects of imprisonment; some in few prisons, while felon committed for crimes The Noble Lord conjured their Lordships seriously the gaoler or e meet. Thus was this Petitionei i the prison, and some soon after the individuals de- : marked by the most cool and deliberate 'rancour, to consider the whole of this ire-es/44n with a view -hk treated, left without the means of even keeping 4, parted from it. i while the most atrocious offenders are supplied with to reform—to reflect upon the injustice of eitcrwidg body end pout together./ With a view to extort ille- 1 " Wherefore your Petitioner most earnestly be. i all these accommodations, thus confounding the an v man to be a Judge in his own catese-441 permit gal AM, : Wu it. than, ite would ask their Lord- 'leeches your Lordships to take such measures, as distinction which nught ever to prevail between the scales of justice to remain in the handsofpamion ships, to be endured in this boasted country . of Lis your wisdom shall deem advisable, to prevent such , misfortune and crime, between the casualty of and prejudice, to bear in mitidelle titehnorableetbrds betty, *eine, and beinatltity,-tiret *w. bile felons—that . illegal oppressions as your Petitioner has ezperienc- distress and the turpitude of guilt. — The Re - of the magnanimous Emperor of Russia , "to frame, 'white the most atrocious criminals were by law al- - eds as well as to abolish by law the abominable prac- port before alluded to, the Noble Lord ob- lijeial institutions conformable to the improved state . . lowed bedding, clothing, fuel s and food, unfoctit- tice of imprisonment for debt on mesne process, the served, had recommended, and very properly re- of human knowledge." Recollecting oleic would, nate deetcreeeouldbe ;dosed common sustenance? dreadful consequences of which may not be fully commended, ghat where the Defendant confessed a coinbitied with the observation of the Noble Presi- Was It_ p4sible;tissi:Use Hone. and the country , known to your Lordships' House, but are too wo- • debt further expence should be prevented ; and what dent of the Committee, to whom be had so often re fully could acquiesce in the longer continuance of suchor himself be had no experience d , not on l y b y t h e but could be at once more absurd and unjust, than that {erred (Lord Moira); namely, that "it would behet gross injustice and cruelty . ? F , generally by the creditor himself. I proceedings should go on after such confession ; that ter reform should begin with the head than details(' - difficulty in star' his full belief, that cases of 1 " And Petitioner will pray, i the expellee of trial should be incurred where there he trusted their Lordships would commence the " Wild. WRIGHT ." . 1 was nothing to try ; yet any rascaliy attorney, by work of Reform in this the most improved irides off greater oppression than had occurred under the sys- • . teat Of imprisenmeheforedeht in,Ettgland, had never This Petition being ordered to lie on the table, the ', eiterlaw, as it now stood, was at liberty, after a Europe. Their Lordships had seen the consequence been witnegs " ineny : nuonn ow , nahhh Tae hurna. Noble Lord thought proper to advert to the Peti-; Defendant was committed to prison for fi fteen pounds, of a Reform beginning with the tail. They had seen tions which he had presented . to their Lordships on ai to lead him with the expence of trial. ift:c. with costs, that it at first led to anarchy, and then to military nity of that •Itonse andtheerteintry had revolter, and former day. One of these Petitioners, Mr. Bald- i in fact, exceeding far the origieJl aovaint of the despotism, and he hoped that they would learn a useful ' .at length succeeded-in wheliebing the African Slave wyn, had, it appeared; been eleven months in pri. :debt. Were such proreedin , s, lie would ask, re- lesson from that impressive example. In that hope Trade, and that aboldion-was a glorious act. But son, although, at the close of that period, the Court ' concilable in any degree with humanity and consist- he should move for leave to brinj in a. Bill to abolish this system of imprisonment for debt was antly • English , decided that he owed nothing. Yet, after that de- envy : Such proceedings were, indeed, ineompatible for ever the"Pr ,eletrar tete— ---er called, and justly to be considered, the 66 nipre4stre -systent of clam, Mr. Baldwyn was detained a fortnight before with the interests of both Plaintiffs and Defendants, ari ..... .elLutio.- .Stirve Trade;" for the abolition of which hurnard , y ' he could obtainjiis liberation. In another case, Mr. and this was evident from the deposition of Mr. read tiTe - Bit .and wisdom loudly called. Yes, the wisest and the most humane had long and unanswerably enforced Manie was in custody for two months, although Nixon before the Committee he had referred to.— , otsieetel s iyh, the propriety of the abolition of that system, which ' upon reference to Mr. Justice Le Blanc, that Judge For Mr. Nixon deposed, that " the Plaintiff and an ' defendant declared that the affidavit upon which the Prisoner ;'the Defendant were often to be found in the same ver ict o a ury the existence or a ~0.._ bad precedent or parallel in any civilized country had been arrested was defective. But many similar prison, the one for the debt, the other for the costs" "iinaticeti- he NSble Lord disclaiming any intention -open earth. The opinion and argument of Dr. johmenn mewl this subject must be familiar to the re- cases of injustice and oppression could be adduced` —some rascally Attorney being the main cause of To;Tignrauduietit debtors, or to interfere with the collection of their Lordships, and in addition to vie. notwithstanding the prescriptions of Magna Charts the oppression of both, after possessing himself of ri_hts of bona fide creditors. "ions other high authorities, a distinguished writer and the Bill of Rights. The exactions practised in whatever property they possessed. Thus too often This Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be had justly characterised this system as 'c a miserable the prisons were, he understood, most severely op- did these base lawyers exemplify the fable of La mod-. seemereeesee pressive upon unfortunate debtors, and in order to Fontaine, respecting the oyster, where the lawyer is His Lordship then presented a Bill for amending mistaken invention of artificial science, operating to put th e House in possession of the necessary informa- described as opening the oyster, swallowing the fish, the Act of the elst Geo. 111. relative tothenvietimnot change a civil into a criminal judgment, and to punish. , tion upon this subject, he should move for a return and giving the shells to the Plaintiff and Defendant. sum of arrest, observing- th at lawyers had di ff ered as scourge misfortune or indiscretion with a of the fees demanded or paid in the several prisons, aln the same report the Treasurer of the Society for i to the construction of the Act, whether it was gee meld which the law does not visit on the greatest • since the 10th of July, 1811, stating the grounds the Relief of Persons confined for Small Debts, de- : nerai in its enactments, or confined to neesne peocesst crime." upon which such fees were claimed ; and also for posed, that to his knowledge, out of 520 prisoners : He therefore proposed to enact that no person sheeld The Noble Lord then briefly described the Peti sinsoyishseh, he huh re f erre d at the uhtaht Ruh capies of Aviles of fan s , if soy ee teeted_ _ s up sh _itelf , ort es excises toe doletried meter - paideeitiser 'debt or' bet enertsteMetitybultretedierf3tlereihtlifiTt9e7f h , ferent prisons. By the Act of the 324 of tieo. I . **she- se that Me abominable system,- instead of r accruing in any legal proceedinlo Should not ler In mishits moved to have read. It was accordingly , c. 28, a. 5, it was directed, that the Chief Judges serving, really injured' those for whose advantage it , eluded in such 11001. — This Bill seas also read a first peed es follows : .. i of the Courts of King's Bench, the Common Pleas, I was profeesedly amintained, the creditor ultimately i time, and en moving that it Should be printed, his 64 TO esti Loans SPIRITUAL AND TEMPORAL OF THE I and the Exchequer, together with three Magistrates j becoming a debtor through the deficiency of the law ! Lordship made some further obse rvation s u p on the lIIITTen lIIINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND IR S. Mid dlesex, :of Surrey and should arrange a table of; and the knavery of the - lawyers. But he had not ! subject, arid sugegsted that it rredultlbe espedient file • Lawny IN PARLIAMENT ASSEMBLED. I the fees to be paid at the several prisons of the King's j yet finished the detail of a debtor's mis fo rtune. In the House to have three Amesiois, one corwereinit • ' . 46 THE PETITION OF WILLIAM WRIGHT, Bench, the Fleet, and the Marshalsea, and that ei - i fact,. exaction and oppressi on were his fate from the , w i th the p ractice in Chatreerys beet good -common' ' " !HEW ETU, 'I miler tables should he settled at the several Quarter I newest of his arrest. At the " lock-op-liaise" to . lawyer. and sequainted witt ill-the technicalities of " That your Lordships' Petitioner was arrested, ' Sessions, for the different county prisons. It was ; which , he was first led, hecould not•eubsist for loss ; the common law, and the lehithhoell sequitnetei on the 16th of June last, on mesne process, for the a l so prescribed by the same Act, that such table of ' then eight or ten shillings!-day; and to thiseaptendi- 1 with the law merchant. TheseVentlemen might bWe sum of only 141. 12s. and he subsequently surren- fees should be hung or posted up in the several pri- tore a poor debtor was coooPelled to submit, iodepend- ! employed during the recess- iwetediseine e' into a syste m dered to the Fleet Prison, to save his bail from being sons, so as to become fully known to the prisoners; out ash legal costs. Was it then too meet to mill such ; the various enactments on the Statute Book, an row ebaneed.wlth the debt. j and that no jailer should, directly or indirectly, de- a system the English Slave Trade ?—Was not such a ' gives tibiae— The BathitretstAsaws, for instance, ' - "•Tli, ei, - near half of the said debt, for which your !mend or accept any fees but such as were specifically description fully justifiable ?—lt might he, notwith- might he thus cbmpressed into a practicable western,. Petitivainfr was arrested, had been owing under a sta- ` allowed by such tables. T hrou g h his motion he standin g , that a Learned Lord, the Chief Justice of . and tiostersofesion in the Statute Book might be re fete of hatikrnptcy near tern years before, and was proposed to ascertain vi hether the direction of this the King's Bench, it he were present, would at- '. time w h o lly reme di e d. se' ,t konsetibily iiino way recovenble by law, as Pe- statute was complied with at the Fleet, and also at I tempt to say something it favour of the law. : Tine Bill was ordered to be printed. _ • . litioner bad obtained his certificate, but from a prig- the several other prisons.—Here the Noble i • yers, but he was sere that the Learned Lord on the fr dip!. Of Integrity,"' was induced to include it in the Lord referred to the legal and general inforesa-1 Woolsack would not.—[A laugh] —For himself mid eterwerf--141-. lea: -- -•- ---- - -- I tion which he had obtained epee this nappy-11re could not conceive how the lawyers and their " Thst your Petitioner, son:: after being commit- tent subject, especially to that contained in 0 i practice under the system of inesne process could be t i ed to prison. ..:as r.Lligril for suosi.tence, to sell his letter with which he had beeotavoured by one ti; defended. For lotteries; how could any elan of shop . fixt r urth for fire pounds, w hirh shortly before the most able lanyers in the country, respecting as. common seem defend the terms of a deciaretion.-- cost upw 4 lids cf 50!.; his hous,-hold-furniture hash- rests upon wane process, and also to the Report or He had seen one of these declarations upon a tailor's ar s , been previously seized for rout. the Committee of •which that excellent man, Ihe-per- ; bill, which contained no less than eight counts, al 'l That 10O:1 after% P.rds Petitioner, together with_ sent Chief Governor of India, was President.-- I though in point of fact and reason, only one count hie 'tifffe • and ceiel, tan ) ears old, viias actually , Ivery one, indeed, who admired the genuine pried-; was necessary. Theist count was for work and la starritg,. bijrni at tithes for whole days without a { pies of our Constitution, must view with regret anti I boor donee; the 21 for whet the work and labour morsel of toot; and having diseosed of all their . surprise the various infractions of it which aortic- I was worth; the 3d for goods sold and delivered ; the 'swearing apparel, :without 0. chimp left, or even a tensed this system of arrest—a system which in- facti4th for what the goods were worth ; the sth for aro , bed - to lie on, was obliged to apply far the allow- gave birth to numerous glaring abuses, which were : ney lent, although in realit y no mone y was lent ; the snce, of lid . a week, under au Act passed in the ' not only not authorised by law, but in most cases in 6th forsenoney paid and advanced; the 7 th for mo. 63d cf .Itir`lcing, chapter 113, ititituled ` c An Act direct violation of its spirit and character. Was it,4ney hart and received : and the Bth for the balance for proetsPie_Ohelief for Poor Prisoners confined in for instance, consistent with the Constitution of this i dee. Ibis the Noble Lord offered as a specimen of the King's Bench, Ffeet, and Nlarstialses. Prisons," Country, that, upon the mere asseveration of an in- the - simplicity of the law, which, outraging truth and WhicA s hassed on the 10th day e of /Ay, 1813, and dividual, any British subject should be condemned common sense, introduced a variety of superfluous oil - the sleidav of Augnst last visur Petitioner made to imprisonment without a trial—without the verdict words and fictitious statements, filling parchments • of erit before a Commissioner for obtaining said aletbf a Jury ? It was obviously the interest, as well as unnecessarily, and reiterating so often a simple claim, iewance, as directed by the Act. • the duty, of every man in the country to consider merely upon a tailor's bill. Thirty years ago he knew V 44. th at your Petitioner , immediately OR making this question — for itest ablished & p recedent incom p i- little upon these subjects, but since then he had ex -3 W N sit, lodged it with Mr. oodro ff e, Clerk tible with the character, and dangerous to the exist- perienced enough himself fully to in fo r m him, and 44111 of the stiol fleet. prison ; but yet Petitioner could mice of civil liberty. It was notorious, that any man ar- now he believed he knew as much as many, or any n . rq . 4.btain the rigid the law allowed, as illegal fees, rested uponmesneprocen must, if he could not find bail of the lawyers. As a farther instance of the ab unt sithorise.d by the Act of Parliament, were de- submit to imprisonment, and thus a creditor was en- surdity belonging to the practice of the lawyers, the niiedWof him ;at 6s. Bd. were demanded, and abled to gratify his revenge—thus a man was, con- Noble Lord stated, that in a village in his neigh afterwards4s, G el. bat it was not in your Petitioner's trary to t he first p rinci p les of j ustice, made a Judge bourhood some years since, a stroller happening to po.wer,to comply will} either. in his own case. He was aware that in actions of go into a cottage, observed a pair of leather breeches " That le consequence of your Petitioner's nut Trover, the amount of bail is at the discretion of a hanging u p , which he thou g ht p ro p er to p ut under being able tp ply either of said demands, his aifida- Judge, anal the rule upon thishase -rose out of an his arm turd walk away. Well, what followed—an sit was net before the Magistrate for nearly six ex traordinar y eveut which occurred about fi ve years Attorney in the vicinage came to him (Lord S.) and weeks-.-ua y, until the 15th of September fol - ago . A swindler who came to this country, per. to show his skill drew up a declaration for Tres. a id lowing, during which time Petitioner and his family sonated the heir of an opulent family in the West pass, consisting of no less than twelve count., were in the most deplorable state of misery, and Indies, and thus obtained credit. But having cam- eleven of which were alisolate nullities ; but in would, in all probability, have fallen victims to mitted forgery, be was arrested, and in order to em- these comets he alleged that the stroller came with absolute star t Mien, had it not been for your Peti- barrass his prosecutor, he (the swindler) had Ma force and arms, and cannon, and mortars, arid boner's h a ving got a little credit from some of his arrested in trover for 20,0001. which he swore to be bombs, toottack the cottage, and although the whole fellow-prisoners, on the ground of his expectancy of the value of a deed withheld from him by the P. • seas a fiction, the stroller having quietly stolen away secutor. The whole, however, turned o u t t o beetedliiebrisecies. [A laugh.] But the se stem of fiction Mid allowance. 66 That one of your Petitioner's fellow-prison- trick, and the swindler was executed for the forgery!. might form an warmest . .e . omprehe naive in the practice of the lawyers. Cr. had made a coinplaint to a Member of your Lo rd- But from this case their Lordshipsopt. For titer Lordships must be surprised to learn, that ship' House on the subject of the fees, which had nion of the latitude which the law of arrest up!)n the snot-open warm process arose entirely oat of been illegally extorted from a great number of the sein e p rocess in this country afforded to stndiolietr fiction. For thetChtert from which the writ issued prisoners ; and the said Peer transmitted the said and u n p rinci p led individuals to oppress the innocent. charged the defendant with being guilty of contempt cempialot to the Principal Secretary of State for the In actions, particularly for assault sad battery, or 411 not appearing, and then upon the defendant deny. resne wocc - it. Here the - Noble I..rti le propose( to )ring forward, 024 u is to prt.vent the actual committal of until judgment is had—until 6y tile r - rt rat - . Lr 3. The Earl of LIVI4:RPOOL.tv, catassaadjart e tiVo Prince Rezent, laid on theraSie a Treaty or . liOv z4 cert and Subsidy, concluded betwee n Ibis .4) 4 044ey and the Allies ; ,and also vi,o . 'convotion gslt h, France, for a sespeasiom 6f teostilides laud. eat •‘"11r. '.: sent, he thought it proper to advert to the Act of " bit Seatios for the Relief of PaeoenWrirrr: he theliCfs 13et1 the Fleet and the been. IY ~ wat authoriatd • t 7.1 a ( 7 _ . - , • ' ..,. -_-. . • . ... . • . , stmt l „,,...- I..higlllll. herithelpt he la' flip' viebbed for the denial ; that is, he is punished for denying a fesnittiod. ' Bat like system of fiction wee teeteetiet, rill fiellier.— : t 4....a ' ' 1 c4;st o pAtip i .Leoil_actieutf2l,. • ottßiea* i • het 'the °evert of le 7 1 ' II 'iltch- in rordelt to have a share of the plum er beldlig'tng to - ~ tsuch . actionti contrite* to (firing them ttnekritsot- nizaraTrity the fiction' cet rgotg t!e : ant , - he peace nor ' : K t!!! be ctl en o v f i t olate4: 4 4lnd aFt t h ke ujg e k l i Ciurt P •or Bltt l ibe- id • goer, 40 order also tsrpettlficipete of *the ttfolli b it. 1 .. . , 4trivi to extend its farietlietiboleti - civil tieeititesi :by a 1 the 'tidies's-of charging de defbnelitet with 41V;rg 'a 4 . clebtor tb• the King, astelsitifit'flitet" lely Aire debt tile 4 , creditor Was rendered• uhattlef lir. 'pay u: debt tie the t - +King, although no such sit beetisted. :Dot , tittle the 4 action wt's extended, 40 elkond the seeltrialous prbfit ibf lawyers, and 416 it the'eppresvioirt Off ileortit. l .. t - Fiction, however, did bat 'Stott ileif t by; err intieht • 1 Statote, it was preioribed that two ibutreiteispers • ' . should become pledged to 'prosetute 11 . - /tear 'lttietioo, tiefiale.a view to give 'Mete security tt;;;theNtefloillent • But bow did the lawyers contriaeti•etedetOs , prk- ... . ',.._ vision ? Why, by introducing the two littiiifieitt names of John Doe and Richard R.00. 1 •4• , The wbole system, however, relative to deft trettens was defec- tive—was fratlolent, effordinia scope for the piun- &ring practice of lawyers, which fully jestified the observation of Wilkes, ;be,- When asked why Ste Brook Watson should be generally so severe ht Ms animadversion upon the lawl 4 era Said; li Don't you see that he has lost one leg by a shark." [A 'lough_] The Noble Lord conjured their Lordships seriously - to consider the whole of this qtres/iOn with' a view to reform—to reflect upon the injustice of ailowitig any man to be a Judge in his own cause--lei permit the scales of justice to remain in the handsofipession . . and prejudice, to bear in teltidille thelvtorableirbrds• of the magnanimous Emperor of Russia, " tt , frame . . • liOeral institutions conformable to the improved 'titre I ; t ; . of human knowledge." Recollecting oleic would, t, coinbilied with the observation of the Noble Presi- dent of the Committee, to whom be had so often re- ferred (Lord Moira); namely, that "it would behet- ter reform should begin with the head than detail,* he trusted their Lordships would commence the work of Reform in this the most improved nation off Europe. Their Lordships had seen the consequence of a Reform beginning with the tail. They had sem that it at first led to anarchy, and then to military despotism, and he hoped that they would learn a useful ~ t • lesson from that impressive example. In that hope I t he should move for leave to brirlgilLa, Bill to abolish fun ever the e- pr. ,e-avn - r ut: o vist an( of7rFred , sive system of , arr • u ion rarer le procdr. Here the N - ofile 1 , 4-a • read the ill he proposed to tang forward, tl . „.lLan 1.u.. object of which is to prevent the actual' committal of • I an ' defendant until 'uric:rient is had—until 6 the • t verdict of awry the exis etice o ispro - k . . ' no nce e.o l e ,or Ist:taming any intention `' - f - 0717171nraudui..iit debtors, or to interfere with the ... r ri_ hts of bona fide creditois. ; i This Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be a n riajgd..-- ; His Lordship then presented a Bill for amending , the Act of the 51st Geo. 111. relative tothervietimoot sum of arrest, observingthet lawyers had differed as r ! ' to the construction of the Act, whether it was ge- .- • , neral in its enactments, or co tto ne d to rnesnc peocetri .• 5 , He therefore proposed to enact that no person sheet& r I be terrirtsblYidierelfg - nerwmetirrZirer wireasvi --------- ; l ' ..-:- 1 f , accruing in any legal proceudhio should not be In. , • t : eluded in such sum.—This Bill seas also read a first 1 .„ r ; time, and en moving that it iheuld be printed, hi* r Lordship made some further observations upon the i • t ! subject, and segegsied that it Mould be 'expedient file 1 ' 1 the House to have three Atonic:4s, one converse* a I 1 1 e , with the practice in Chaellerv, beet good Commie/1' ) lawyer. and acquainted witiill - the technicalities et s the common law, and the '.4thitL!arell sequiinftoi •' with the law merchant. TitoseVrentlemen might be• • ' employed deride the recess iveleetle e' eine into a system` ! i ; the various enactments on thk Statute Book, on Illy . ,:. I ! gives iiiibiect... The BankrefOtAaaws, for instance, - might he thus compressed into a practicable systetn a : f . and that corgesion in the Statute Book might ibe .re -.. time wholly remedied. -'y 4 4 4: .g. 41 • ; The Bill was ordered to be printed. • ; . till , . f N • _ 111111111111111111111 -i UELM. li - S - 1 no. - r !. The Earl of LI V ERN:POL.. V, cotansossOltit h r ' Prince Regent, laid on theratie a Treaty 4 lb" - , i 4. t A 7 . ! ' cert and Subsidy, concluded between this 49 . y . 16 2. i and the Allies ; ,and also the . 'Convetstiou . wftlk i : r - I France, for a sospeosiott Al tiOstiTlties by sea aid s ! land. NORWAY- 7 StinuEN. ~ t I Er . ltitli:Y;unditsfandfrig that there was no op. ..'. . . ' i - poviiihn' tothepiodziptiitn• of the document relative r : td Norwat, respecting, which hthad given notice • e 1 F'ridny, and, atsg that t ' ru t Woupe ...pia obieekl j _ , ~ - I to flee proalictien 'of 'so ar . s, lie 6h 9 -- A ; P ; now mov‘Yot them , 'a o et 4 :l4g oq . tbe „ . ' • • ' ' bias day ) - lenn • ''' • I cuselen ot%4hem on fb-morete . . , , -.)' e " His Lords* been moved, cor i llee 4 PNi . ..411 1 'Olifttlf f ! the sums if' money paid to•SWedett_ under thersirbet-„,; , ‘ 1 diary Treaty., the notabOi Of troop a i. * 3 power into the fi eld, the *date of the spar of" s Guaduloupe, &c. which were . orlored; and on his ' Lordship's motion, the Lords . , were ordered to be ~ o summoned for to-morrow (tbti dab se'ueight. ",, Adjoin teed till tomorrow (this day). . I i .. ' '' V • HOUSE OF COMMONS. .. e .1 um; ES' FEES. ' . Sir JOHN NEWPORT stated; that it was new D above a month since he had moved for return's of • - . -, s certain fees remitted by Judges, Q &Pia of Cowls., ✓ &c. and not one had yet found its way to: 4 the 'table ` • ; , of the House. He should now move, therefore, • j that returns be made to the said order forthwith. - Is t•Aroltiltllnir L.,?1:•11b. , On the question that the Report •r the Committee • t be received, 1 i Mr. BRAND rose and observed, that seen:din; I t P 1 to the standing order of the llinise, new notices . a ought to have been given to those individuals who ,4. had signified their consent to the cutting of ;hi: i Canal. The present was a Bill to amend a f.ii mot . Bill passed in the list Session; but the nmoodme , its t were of a description that wholly altered the origi- f nal Act. it totally changed and varied the line of I' the canal, and it became a question for consideration, t whether those who had assented to the first plan. • 'wore bound to consent to the second ; he shou d . , , • 4 .. . . _.....,.... - -..amo- 9 9 * .. NOR WAY- T iiinli EN. • Etirl ` GRF.Y~ und4isfanding that there was no op„ pntitibti'tothepiociciptiO' of the document retails* to Norwa y, respectin w i tllol ht . had given notice oft, Friday,and; alsg ti4t ro t Woupe :110, obefila j to the prorticti*n *of so pis, `he sholk now mov‘Yot them, la , 51.0 4 cusiion cia•them on temoreci his day)"genn His Lordshjp tkien moved, {pf l itte 4 PNi . ..411 1 ti di* the sums if' money Fiala to . ssieliko. wider tlterlidast- . 4 diary Treaty., the noinbOief troopihrought s by,tb4: 4 power into the field, the *date of the surrender of Guaduloupe, &c. which were,ordesed; and on bit Lordship's motion, the Lards . , were ordered to be summoned for to-morrow (thti aay) se'opight. Adjoin tied tilt tomorrow (this der). .7 HOUSE OF COMMONS. JunGEs' FEES, ;_ • ~ Sir JOHN NEWPORT stated, that it was new above a month since he had moved for returns of certain fees received by Judges, Q4ctis of Cows., &c. and not one had yet found its way to,'"the 'pablte of the house•. He should now move, therefore, that returns be made to the said order forthwith. On the question that the Report wf the Committee be received, Mr. BRAND rove and observed, that acenedin; to the standing order of the Maise l new notice:: ought to have been given to those individuals wh"• had signified their consent to the cutting of ;hi: Canal. The present was a Bill to amend a f‘.3 mor Bill passed in the list session; but the amendments were of a description that wholly altered the origi nal Act. it totally changed and varied the line of the canal, and it became a question for consideration, whether those who had assented to the first Wan. 'wore bound to consent to the second ; he shou ii ,