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rate of the Barons., and many of the neighbouring gentry, with their families were there. Her Royal Highness came to the ball rOOlll, and sometimes she danced. Tne conduct of the persons collected on these occasions was most regular. I went with her Royal Highness to Ca:l,ruhe. We arrived there on the 28th of Mach, 1818, about mid clay. On that day we dined at the Margravine's, and supped at the Grand Duke's, where we dined on the second day. Baron Dendi was Chamberlain. On the third day we dined at the Margravine's. In the evening we went to the Theatre.and then to sup with the Grand Duke. On the fourth day her Royal Highness went to Baden, where we slept that night. I renumber going from Chatnitz to Inspruck with Belli:win, about passports. We returned between two and three in the morning, and went into the room of her Royal 'gimes:, where she was sitting on the bed, half lying, covered with a shawl. Victorine was sitting on the bed of her Royal Highness, and Dumont was also in the room. The room of the Countess Oldi joined that of her Royal Highness. A few moments after we returned, an dicer from the Police arrived; I spoke to him, and I returned to the room of her Royal Highness often; first to give an account of who had arrived; to give an account of the weather ; and lastly, that they were dearirg the road from the snow. We remained up all that night, making preparations for setting out. There were beds at the inn fur all the suite, below and in the corridor, near the room of her Royal Highness. I have seen Bergami in the kitchen, on the stairs, at the door, and in the room of her Royal Highness, but never saw him un. dressed. I remember her having been at Trieste, where she i staid a day and a half. From Trieste to Venice. I have been at Rome with her Royal Highness. From Rome she went to Sc. negalia, abort three days' journey. She travelled in an English landaulet. The Countess Oldi. Bergami, and Victorine travelled with her. I did not see EACCIIi in that journey as courier. 1 have seen Carlo Forte as courier: he began the service in Italy at Rome; but from Milan he began at Loretto. 1 never saw her Royal Highness ride in a pado pundit. It is a carriage which cannot contain more than one person, and is without springs. I have seen dances periOnned by Mahomet frequently. It is it most simple dance, and nothing indecent. Her Royal Highness was in the frequent habits of intercourse with the first nobility at Rome. During all the time that I have seen the Princess and Bergami together, I never witnessed the slightest impropriety in their conduct with each other. I have served in the army from 1803 to 1815, and have been honoured with the Order of the Iron Crown, on my return from the Russian cam. • his witness underwent a long cross-examination by the At torney General, and an examination by the Peers, but nothing ilp Kin the slightest degree calculated to shake his testimony. irrir.touGuAm then ruse and addressed the House to the following edict s—" My Lords, before your Lordships retire, I wish to call your attention for a few moments to the peculiar cir cumstances in which we, her Majesty's Counsel, are place d . We now find ourselves under the necessity of appealing to your jus tice, and to which we trust, we shall not appeal in vain. It will be in the recollection of your Lordships, that in an early stage of this defence we called on a person who had been sent over to Carlshruhe for a witness, not only of high rank and character, but a witness the most irni ottani in thei defence of the Queen—a witness who would shew, what he alone could shew , that her Ma. jesty was not the persotidescribed,l as (g low habits, associating with vulgar persons, and skulking from every one of rank and respectability. Tne witness, my Lords. would prove, that so far from this being she case, her Nlajesty after returning from her long journey went to Germany, visited her blood relations, and there, and not in Italy, she desired to fix her abode. A Palace was taken for her, and she had no other wish than to live and die in the midst of her kindred. My Lords, I conceive this evidence complete, decisive, plenary, and not leaving one stone to rimove front the structure of perjured accusation that has been raised against her. It now falls to my duty to complain that this witness is still witheld from us, I acquit his Majesty's Govern ment of all blame. for they have done their duty. The Minister of this Country applied at the Court of the Grand Duke of Baden for the Baron Dendi ' Chamberlain of the Grand Duke, to conic over as a witness for her Majesty. M. Berstodt , at len gth. told the chamberlain that he was not refused permission to come, but said lie had no poser to enforce him to mine. and yet this very 111. Berstedt compelled Barbara Krees to come here u a witness against her Mitivety. Then a letter of pemiission is given to Baron Dendi, but he is by nature a worthy man, and by peek*. aim a chamberlain, and knowing the feelings of the Court of Baden better than we do, he fails ill at this very moment, when his services were most wanted. It would almost seem as if Ras. teller illness had passed from Milan to Darien, on purpose to visit this worthy chtuntrerbuti, who now finds himself so ill, that a long. long period will be necessary for Ins recovery. The faithful shiunberlam, like a good courtier, falls ill most opportunely for one side of the quesuon, and no doabt he has his reason, but most unfortunately tot the Queen, who feels herself now and to. ever deprived of this most important witness. My Lords, I throw myself on your justice; but, after having completely refuted and dispelled seven out of the ten charges made against her Majesty, are we *still to be compelled to gu on w it h the defence, under such manifest, such moastrous ? The Earl of LivEiteuot, said, his Majesty's alimsters were particularly anxious that the Qat:en should possess all their inALUTICC ID assisting her with witnesses. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved that the House do now aljourn. Ab:tourned at a quarter before tour o'clocock. HOUSE OF COMMONS. lersDAY, OCT. 17. By half past three o'clock many Members were in the House. Since the last Meeting some aiteralioos liasc taken place ; the most tow pit:nuns ai e, the raiswg , Tails abort the Larks or the seals, generally railed t h e Treasury and Opposition Benches I they are covered with green 'tattier. The SPEAKER entered the Hume about a quarter berme four u'cluck.—As sums as linty Alembere wars. pretend, the Speaker took Isis seat. 'there were then prepent Mr. Biungliain, Mr. Denman, Mr. llubhutise, Sit R. Wilson, Sir W. Curtis, Ike. LIVaKPOOL PETITION.—Gen. CASCOYNE presented • Petition from about VO,UOU inhabitants of Liverpool, complaining of the distreeties to *inch they were sub jet:ital.—Reed. and ordered to be printed. Tue Qualm —Lind CASTLEREAGH moved, that a Committee be appointed to suspect the Lords' Journals all to say proceedings on the Bid of Pains and Prowls'. e re gas ding the Queeui.—Ordered, amid the Committee ap pointed. PaTITIONG AGAINST THE BILL—Lord J. RUsSELL rose aid stated, that lie held in his hand a Petision from the inhabitants of I'ly month, signed by YAW) 'mesons, being a linger number than ever before addi eased that House on a political queslion. Atter taking 1/1111CC 01 111 C pprucredwgs inio helot e the Iloasee of Lords against her Maw:sty, under Ilie IIUI of PAWS 11611 Penalties, the peli- SiOueis, considering such a mode of pi oeceding as iineoll - and daliges out to [lie safety of Ilse hingrioni, prayed the Alelll6elb of the House of Commons winad as Once 'eject the Bill, should it be !nought beture them fur their si,selit. The Noble Lord slated, that when the petitioners entrusted this their Petition to him for pre sentation to that House, they added a request that he would support its prayer 3 and although he theuad not THE NATIONAL REGISTER now enter into en examination of the evidence adduced in support of the Bill, he had no hesitation in sa : ing, that he so entirely disapproved of the principles of the Bill, he should most erflaisily oppose its 11(1111i$S1011 into that House. He, no"' ever, hoped it would ties find its way to the threshold of the House. He mum indeed be per mitted to say, that the result of the evidence was not such as in his opinion to sander it necessary for the Queen to continue he r defence. With respect to the people of this country, they appeared to be of the same !Mail with hint self; and is this point of view, looking at expediency alone, he could not see the utility of pressing a measure which professed to have fur its object the preservation of the putolie muualt atoinst the force of it ball example. The people were of opicion that the chat:4e of setting a bad example was not proved against the Queen. The people disbelieved it, and therefore the idea of passing a Bill to prevent a bail example was idle and absurd. The Noble Lord concluded by moving that the Petition should_be read. _ The Petition was then read by die Clerk. It was of considerable length. The petitionets viewed the Bill berme the Lords a lilt the greatest atiliettuil, mid ignited That should it come down Io the 111,11. e of Commons, it would hr rejected. It was signed by 2,0.10 persons. Mr. LOCKHART expi eased his sentiments against the Bill—his sentiments being consointut to th o se expressed by die petitiimers, and lay the Noble Luid. The Bill was contrary to the Act of Edward 111. regarding Treason, and a violation of Magna Cliaila ; and it was fatal to the middle and lower ranks, a ho wet r endangered by sit iking at the higher ranks. It violated die Act sit Edward 111. regarding Treason, for it in effect charged Treason; and if the Clime were not Treason, was the ()deuce known to the law? But they had heard of the siateineet that the (titmice was committed woli a foreigner, and yet the Bill did not set forth that Chu olfetice was committed in a foreign country, not within the Icahn. Where, then, was the Care with which the Bill had been drawn, and how could either House of Parliament assists:: to itself a power to soften down a crime I list was cognizable to the laws? There Was, however, another grimed of objection. He maintained that it was extremely doubtful whether the wife of the eldest son of a Sovereign who should commit adultery was guilty of High Treason, though some autho rities had ruled to the contrary. Much reliance was placed on Lord Coke's dielinn on this point, anti that opinion was avowedly founded on the eases of Aetna Bo leyn, and the secend of Queen Catharine, Spelnian being quoted as the authority. He, however, inlet red that Anita Boleyn was not even tiled for adultery; on the contrary, one Act charged her with having " conlederated with divers persons against tine King." Nothing was said of adultery. And Queen Callon me no where appeared to have been charged with that offence. He drew his rental Ls On this latter case fium the nianmst►ipl statement of Mr. 'flioniss, Cie' k of Hem) , Fill's. Council (pre served in die Comm Library), who said that she was Charged with leadiiig a Jasmine lite, and %stilt designing meatus to etlllllllli adultery. lie theiefore contended, that the cases on a Ititit Lord Cuke !Minded his dictum faded; and submitted that the distinction of foreigners was iii volous and doubtful. Alter tile neglect to which our Queen had berm sit ijecled, he thought it rather hard to proceed in the way proposed by the Bill; it would have been better not to have instituted such a proceeding—not to have agitated the subject at all.—(Hear.) Petition ordered to lie un the table. Auother similar Petition was presented, but we did not hear the name ut the place. Mr. HUME presented • Petition from Burgesses of Aberdeen, praying the House oat to receive the Bill of Pains and Penalties, should it pass the Upper House. It was numerously and must respectably signed, cud ordered to lie int the Note. SIR ItOUERT BAKER'S CONDUCT.—Mr. HUME rose to call the attention of the House to a must important sub ject—to muse that Sir IL. Baker, the Chief Magistrate of Bow-street Office, he called to the liar, to account fur his conduct in permitting Fletcher, alias Fraitklin, to escape Item custody. That man had gone unJsr the vat ions names oh Fletcher, Furbes, and Franklin; anti lie had been engaged with conspirators in the manufacture of treasonable placards for years. They V11..:1;t1 recollect 110 W Aliiiisteis hail dwelt on the placards, particularly those against the Quest;—(bear!)—but tile system has been going on since ISIS. Many lives had been lost, and many pet its 11411 heat: rumnut ed to piison ; and the House would particularly recollect the placards calling for a rising 011 Inc Ist ut Aptil last. it was important to trace the conspirators, und Fraliklin had been apprehended, after immense labour, by Air. C. Peat son, to %shunt great credit ass due heir his exertions.—lie (Air. H.) had va rious affidavits, oil which lie rolllilied his statements, and lie felt himself warranted iii declaring, that, in his opi. nion ibis manufacture hail plocredeti wills the 1.110 ledthe of Ministers. —( Hear, heat !)—He could mot separate the conduct of Sir R. Baker froin that of Giver ; the coutitlet of Sit lt. Bake! .tiengthened Is•picitni —Could they forget that Edwards was allowed to escape; as were wr " at II dotard Ca-ties,'' (as See geaut Copley called 4; , 41 that U 1...111!tul geode:nail" Oliver; how they separate the Gover iiiii ent flout concern in this mat ter, wine' such Whigs ate remembei ed. We thought the suoject uit e dit to be imputed 11110 by a Committee of the House; anti ilia Sir It. Baker uaglit to be called helot e the House furthwitii.—(Cheeis.)—lie couchided with 100Villg, that Sir IL Baker be let the ith called to the Bar, to account for his premature dischasge ut Fletcher. Mr. G. BENNETT seetnideti the motion. Loud CASILEtsE.AGH said—they were required to rotted W1111%11;11 on the statement. But could the Iluuse *Midi fur an inomit, any thing au ridiculous and pi elms teruirs ? Could they toughie that Goverimient would lend me aid to WWI ahollllll.lolo lerucerdingsi There %Sas tio ecousion to (ileum age the in. lactitiet of treasonable and seditious Ituels;—Hour, Woofer, Cal hie, and °the's, supplied the mut ket must pltultlally. As to the &ottani and promulgators of such bills, he most sincerely desired that they may be pursued to punishment. lie a tilled That the business should lie completely examined and proved, atilt shat execrai tun as well as pitailiiiiitait should Lill oil the gutty persons. But since the matter was in a vain ed ligal Investigation, Sleet! It vs as in pent ess le adjutlicatiou berme the Cum ts below, lie could nut see b o w that 111,11 SC CDIIIII with hay prhpriely htlerlate at tile cut•tat hamicatt in the mode iequired fay the motion. ileateet, Mr. Clive, arc. hollowed, the discussion pi oceetle:ti to souse length, and Mr. Huwc w ithdrew his motion. ITHE QUEEN. Mr. BROGDEN bilught ay the inert of the comr3;ttee 341 appointed to search the journals of the Lords regarding the Bill of degradation and divorce. It set forth the proceediugs of this day, and staled that the secoud reuding had been further adjourned until to-morrow. Lord C aaTLEREAGII moved, that the House. at its rising should uui•rurn until the 23J of November, and that on that day the names of the members be culled over. Sir GERA Itl) NOLL objected to the adjournment alto. get her, on the ground that it nag utak that the House should so long neglect the public bulimia. Be moved as an amend. meta, dila the House at its rising should adjourn till to morrow. Mr. P. MOORE seconded the motion. Mr. TIERNEY observed, that tile whole depended upon a balance of convemencies nod inconvenientics.— The House of Lords might or might not be occupied for three weeks upon the Bill before it ; and p osing the House adjourned, the only inconveiiieuce would be, thn t alembeis would be required to attend o , edlessly for three or four days. The inconvenience would be much more consia derable by a pustponement to the 23J u November; fur then • Members would be morally sure that they would be obliged to spend their Christmas in London. if the Gill came down from their Lordships, it might occupy a great deal of time Cllr. Brougham we believe said ten years); his hon. and learned ft tend said it would occupy ten years t but he ( Mr. Tierney) did not think that pet haps more than nine would be consumed by it, but the utmost inconvenience Members would sitstuiu by an adjourument, and a call at the end of three weeks, would be, us lie had said, an attendance fur three or four days. Such was his view of the Question; but at the same lime, be should be glad to hen: the opinions of other gentleinen upon this polio. who, from residing at s distance, might be better judges upuit the question of in convenience. Mr. GULF:VEY trusted that his right hon. friend would forgive him for say Mg that lie had met this question in rather a strange way. He little expected that lie would have talked of the private convenience of Members, instead of meeting the subject with sonic expression, on the part of the House, of an opinion that it never would permit the bi a of pains a.l penalties to enter its doors. hen the trial began, if tria it could be culled, a, nas the trial of the Quemi ; but ' within the last two days it had become the trial of a con spiracy, by the Govsrinueut of the country against the Queen.—(Cheers.)—the Bill before the Lords, whether the Queen were the object of it or not, was the most infa mous iii its nature to it could Ire imagined. W hat he felt on this subject wits felt by all ; one sentiment pervaded all and ull ages; as far as the 8.11 had gone it was impos sible to look at it but only a ithout abhorrence, but without absolute contempt.—(Coutinued t beers.) —He did not be hove that there was OW word of limit in all that the mise rable Italians had been bribed and persuaded to swear.... Most furl duately for that national honour not a single Eng. list wituess had been called a Ito did not swear that, so far from degrading the country, they never seen in her conduct any thing iu the slightest tle,,ree imlecorous or derogatury.— One paint contained in the preamble was that the Queen had violated her duty to the King; bat what duty did she owe to one who, under his own hand, had confessed that he had turned her out a doors ?—(('heers.)—That she owed,ailegtance to the King as his subject was not to be disputed ; but that she owed duty to the King, he (Mr. Creevy) must strenuously denied, nor would he be any patty to try her Mr a supposed breach of it. Yet thin House, as well as the House of Lords, was to be driven into the enquiry; but without power to administer an oa:h—withont power to assist it in point of law—with the public opinion on the score of corruption and influence most decidedly ugainst it, he hoped it would never consent that in such an assembly the Queen should be put upon her Enid. For himself, he tilt a pet feet hor ror at the hare notion of it; nor was his shame less that, while such a topic was presented, the private convenience of the Mew bets bad this night been the only subject of discussion.—(H ear.) Mr. SCARLETT feared lest his silence should be misinter preted or lie would nut have claimed the attention of the House. Medal not intend to enter into a discussion, but lie begged to state. that he fur one would never, on any public grounds yeet promulgated, consent to pass a bill of pains and penalties. One observation on the proceedings of the peers he was entitled to make; by the report on the table it appeared that certain quits. lions had been put to the judges, which showed that the other Molise lead been engaged in an enquiry of a very suspicious nature respecting the collection of evidence by dishonourable means, until it was stopped by an objection from the Counsel for the pro. secution. He could only say, that if he hail been Counsel for the prosecution against the meanest subject in the realm, and had been told that the defendant possessed the power of proving that some of the testimony had been obtained against him by corrupt practiced, though he could not perhaps bring it home dtreetly to the preseeutor, I:e should think that he (air. Scarlett) slid no honour to his client if he interposed an objection to its productio. (Loud cheers.) 11 such would be time line of his duty mile private case, how much more did it become the character of the Govern ment employed in establishing a charge against the Queen of the realm, before a branch tattle legislature, and the public officers of the Clown a —lf, after this experiment, the Bill passed into the Lords, it would disgrace and degrade the House of Commons.— It there existed a set of men whose object was to degrade the most sacred institutions of the country, and to bring unto con tempt shat had hitherto been revered, they could not adopt a snore effectual method than that which Alinisteis were tow pur suing. —(11 ear, hear.) Mr. CALCHA VT said, in his conscience he believed that this whole question arose out of the ambition of one man, to become Caancellor, and the desire of another to hold his situation.— The Vice Chancellor wanted to beco:ne Chancellor, and the Chancellor hail not the courage to go out until he had completed his Indiana (A Lugh.) He did not mean to undervalue that gentleman; lie was his nearest country neighbourhood, and a spurting gentleman he was—(loud laughter), bat his polities mid done much mischief. lithe Queen w 'old have stayed away, ministers would have escaped this difficulty. They hoped She never would have come, and relying on this hope one of them in an unlucky hour, pledged himself to introduce the ~ t oe,aal. ing it she came to England. .Mier some observations from Mr. P. Moore. Ike. the ques tion of adjournment to the '23d of November. anti a call tit the llouse on that day, was put and carried without a division. Mr. BENNET wished to yak the aaorney•General, if the witnes.ses could be detained for trial in ease of perjury. Adjourned at half past ten. An Ad, [dress from the ladies of the towns of New port and Caerleon, Monmouthshire, and their neigh bourhood, is in course of signature, and in a very short space of time it has received upwards of .500 in the former tows alone. The lion. Capt. Spencer, of the Owen Glendon!. T, was in good health at Buenos Ayres the latter c::d of August last. Th., infamous report of this pit lout officer having Wien in a duel, it is now tv•cet tainel, was the invention of a dastardly American, who !lad been reproved by him for s::11: manly conduct.