The National Register. — London, England, 1820-10-23 00:00:00

wished to shut out all empfiry as to the mode in which the ca.e lie the prosecution had been gut up. that examination ought to o on. Ti nth oil, all taat was wants,' by the ell quail tooth oat all that those aho insisted upon It were in bellfel4 of.—( Hear, hear.) Lind HEDESDA LE a ished to have the opinion of the Jun -,es 011 llle subject. The LORD CHANCELLOR begged to Mule the reason which induced him to press the quest tieing put to the Learned .lads*. Their LlllllllllO mot beeo vii,:aged bet sir, ii thirty nod forty days for this eitquiry, up to slits time They bad agreed It/ he governed by those rules of eVlll , lli which obtained in common law, mud a hide acre cor.siderril to be florid in justice, for if they were nut so founded, tney ought to he eliaNed io-iiit 1111111 l The Marq u is of LANSDOWN understood the Corneae' at the bar for her Majesty to state that it was not users object in callifig the last witness, to ;nose that Ile 11311 (stets offered a bribe to depose against the Queen. but that '9 shoiraiti had proposed to hint to alistiart ;lapels front the Queen's Advocate at The Noble Lout (Latirdown) wished this to be *toted in the quest hat an attempt to itijore the Queen in her defence Ile .1 liven imtde, by rutleitireuting to ab- pact papers from a emili dentist 'Lis suits very far davit-tit is too inducing a per , e.t Ili give testintotly aga:est her. II aa , sail. `hall y e devai t Item that Isle to '.sLiv6 ae have hitherto mi tten r lie Ilearti that re111:111, n it:l astonishment, trevait•c their Lot tl•hips hail slot been, iicr ought they to be, ad• j•oti tied. lit a case %% Inch made against the Queen, on rollnt.l aft er taking the opinion of the Judges. their I.frolships, dig - let - Mg 111.111 that permitted the Soy questiou to lie pill, ls Welt the Judges hail Jeciltd against. Tli,s wax iii the ho was totted it I'llaiiett had s.tid any thing to hilts about giving evideace in the case or the Queen Her .Attioney General ottreted to the fittestimi ; the Joilges were consulted, 111111 agreed that it aught not to be 1,117111.1 yel, in It Mlbselinests examination. the qttestion slots objected to, and alms de elan d to be illegal, wits act mitly put, 541111: it Will 11111111411:11 by their Lin ',Mips it) his e been put far this very rea•oa, that there was some suspicion that Alarietti ini4lit he nu agent of the (Fleets, mi, hl be employed let ber Alajesty. and that he might lase inlet let et! its the busicess fusilier than he 011;111 in have done. When their Lordships hail reason to siippo.cp that a ronspicary existed, and the Counsel at our bar out led to prove th.:t eonspii acy, how could they ieffise Co enter into the Itip isyl Ought tied this conspiracy to be inquired into %—tlear, hear, heat). Their Lordships were proceeding in a bill to depose the Queen front lite Tin out', 111111Illeil Oil evidence w idyls nits declared to have netri clatsined by stilioraation and bribery. Were their Lordships to pass the bill, to send it to the otheNitiiise. mid siren ask the royal int , ent ; and Having deposed her Alai( sty, to cause an inquiry i n to the evidence by which she had been MO deposit?, whim, per haps she King had otarii.d another a irt., and that evi dence should be proved to be false, and that She had been niijostly dethroned and flegiatled.—Was wick, the king maker, nevei did any thing so 'mutation,. Wei e their Lordships 10 adopt tins roue at', what remedy could they have—why muulisrr , than to divorce she hiug from Ms now wire, and to testoie the injoi vil and insetted Caroline to her rank and honours. Hi, Lordship Collelll4ell a •ery able speeelt by saying, that he should vote that the ques tion should not be put to the Judgrs. Lord KING read part of the minutes, in which the agency of I'ilinicarti sass distinctly proved ; he had agreed to hive tNi hetes a day to A n Elites,. 111$ Lordship s-suit he SllOlllll vote aphis• toe questions twin.: pot to the Judges in a lirt. ever shape it appear, but lie thoa,hl thus the part of the evidence in proof of ugency, should be nsertim in the question. Altera few wands from Lords Redesdsile and Rosalyn, The LORD CHANCELLOR agreed to adopt the taw gistioll or Lord Klieg, and insert it 111 the question. 'rite thesendrd question ws then put to the Judges, who retired. At ten minutes pest two o'clock the Judges returued, and The Lord CHIEF JUSTICE stated to the House, that he and his Learned Broiloviii thought it necessary to have tni Cher time, for the consideration of the question submit ted to them. The LORD CHANCELLOR having stated this request of the Judges to the House, moved that their Lordships should now adjourn. The Earl of CARNARVON said the technical part of the law hail, in his opinion, nothing to do with the con duct which their Lordships were bound to pursue. It was required of then, by Alinisters that they should give hp a human sactifice, and then inquire whether they were right or w tong in Joni; so It was wasting time to be sal g questions of law to the Judges; it WAS at waste of that time which should be devoted to the psi tOrmanee of Glair almy. Load LUSE IN E said he had a supplementary prop° sition ts submit, .bars nits eJleamail d to legalize t ic question at;;:t est si ii.ch their land-hips had decided yestet.lay. I: oas this—Suiyusit., urtordisig to the rule, of Is*. ev 'deuce of a. rosiseti dcy to bultoril t%iiiitthcs Mot to be stationed, except 11, far as relate. to the prustetinir or agent employed by h,i , will not i.ciacrail evi•teucr wfsuch a conspiracy he oestriltelew, to t h e lost itistance, sece.veil as a pet step the instinstioo .•f et 1111111..1 proceed ings ogatiod the prLwrielor or he, aa k ,ot The LOltD Oil A CLLLOI: hat though he might dissent flout the opi.ma alt Juagcs tower web eilLncs oa,,ce,:, lie felt bound to 'impose !UM 110* Cill:014111 should auhmitia d to thisr consoleaiillans, The ad.lititond questtou N., then ittopoi.eil to the Judges al.d toe Ilan.r adjio lied at 1.. o'clock. FOUIITELSTH DAY OF TIIE DEFENCE. W I.leN 1.50,11 f OC r. The opinion of the Judges was against the question, on which thiy , acre Glr.•ctcd to deliberate, bedig put. The Attorney totssver, vonved the obyt..-tion, and iterrijigao J'ererri was called in. Mr. Gees/1:Y reati the minutes of the evidence given by the witueA, on a fnrn:er day. Mr. DE24 HAN Wki.eil that the questions and Answers should be imerproed to the itne-s, or %ir. Gurney read them. I:ital.:lasi 11r. tV I hue:. You stated that Vi'itlicartt told you to bring him the rapers belonging to her Royal Ilagiire.s. he otter any itiiitixamot Sebring mole pavers r—He kaki me diat he would give tale raw ployrmin, and give me niore emolument than toy usual em ployment. Did he state the nature of tl,e employment lie would give you ? ~.Yes, in the police of ;1111..n. yon alien. ants possess yourself of any of her Royal I I igh ness's papers, and take them to Vidahearta • The JULICI7 0 1 11.-GEWLRA F. o:,jeetcd to the tvestion. Dig; ou, is consequence ol your cenvcrsation with V 11111iCtlitir TUE NATIONAL REGISTER do any thing with the papers of her Royal Dig ?—Yes, on the following day . 1 brought him :vine. Dal Viliniearit ray any thing about the time you should go to his Ake ?...fle told me to enli in the evening. Dal he mention any varti:Mar nine us the evening ?...Ycs, after still set. Did 'tt. upon any ether oecit , ion. talc any papers to Vilma eat ti relating to the For how long a I wriud were you iu the habit of taking her Royal ll'glineas papers to Vaal:want t 'Tic SOLICITOR GUN ERA!. objected to the question. Gil Vow ii my uceaquns did yuu talg,l papers nun Codazzi to Vilmacurtr ?...1 du Let knew low many trines. you l:J it frequently r...N0. llow ult:11 do you berme ?...Scree or eight times at the UIRIOs4 Did Vilmicarti know you te , :re Clerk to Codazzi when you took the pa,-ers knew it, cert..in By whose desire ohl you take 'non 'l , -1 don't know the name. Bad you Lny t•onecteation with V ihniearti about taking them —lle told no: to brng to 111111 all the pallets I could get. DOI you rite..ive any thing hit taking t:iese omen 1 —.:lonry. How own Mil }int reeei%e nancy front Vain:want lot takang hint the papers of I,ee itoyni flightless I... Six times. %Vex you bat,6tiLd with toe money you got from Vtimacarti I was not. Did you ever complain to Col. Brown, that you did not get money enough from Viltracarti for taking papers to him twin your ana,ter ?...I complained once. What mid Colonel Brows any to you on nuking this com plaint told me that he wt:. a friend to Vittoicarti, and mat I au g ht Lot to t.oubt bat that he would pay me 14114 L he prontibed. Did you. in conqequence 'Wilds conversation with Cu!. Brown, make a fre.,:i application to Villitacani ?...Col. Mown to:.1 toe to call on the 14)1a/wins day, and lie tumid hive lime ballIct31:11g. Did you call on Virittacarti?...l did. Did yea receive may money trout hint ?...1 Wheie tEo.a Viitt:acarti lite in Cabello._ _ . , Did he live thole when you took pltiltlS to him i.•• Ile did. DAI he aiwa)s Jive Were ?...Nii. wizen I brat wok rapers to him he lived hi the 1411:: or Itue . . . %Vitae did Cul. Brown live ?...ticyuLLl the bridge at the eastern gate. Do you know the number of the house !...1 (II not. To what aunjat did the inyeis route whica 3uu took to Vihnicartt ? The tIOLICITOIL-GENERAL Obi:dal to the question. Du you know what the papers ue'ate t t ?...Sttie of them. Can you mate what subject :hey tclatett to r...();:e was the de position of fbanse de chaarlu•c who had hem bent to Vienna with Sacchi. As they went ulo.1;, the toad Sacc:ii swi— ne:, the ithess was inharupted. I want to kt:ow what the papers related to ?...They were lettars. Any tlepos;tions of witnesst-s?...Not among the letters. They wet e letters of the Princess, lier c ;anti, awl others. Besides the letters, %ere there uhy tiepositicnks or statement.. of witness Was not. ‘Vhat other papers %e 1.,: there besides the letters ?...Copies ,of the answers of the ailvoeat.! Cudazzi. Answers to w..at ?...Answers ut Co:l=i to Bergami. Any other p:ll,:rs Do you know what subject the letters related to?...Some of them. ..... State them ?...One was a letter of Berganii, who said he would not return to Al thoi before he sAV. those persons who were without shoe,b..l , re, go wutliolit shoes again. '111.: Val of I.IVIEIWOOL suggested, that the last answer should be situ& out. The LOUD CIIANCELLOR was of the same opinion ; and the whole of the .inswer was struck out, except '• Otte was a let ter of lierganii." State wiatt the letters related to generally ?...The Advocate Viltuacarti told me to bribg those letters, particularly the eitioas of the witnesses. Did you carry any papers relating to the subject to Vilmacarti? Letters, not papers. Do you l:now a person of the name of Reganti 2...1 do. Did Itegatiti make application to you respecting the papers ?... He was at my house, allli did apply to me Did you tell Vilmacarti of itegeuti's application ?...I did. asked Vilmacarti what sort of a man licganti was :1--tie told me that he was a person of condition, and that 1 shoulu give any papers. What papers did you give Reganti ?...Papers respecting tie affairs of her Royal Iliglmess. What affair of her 'loyal llighness ?...The affair now pending. Did Reganti know in whose employment you were !...ite knew it, fir he had come to my house asking after the Secretary of Gotlachi, and 1 was the Secretary of Oottaciii. Did Vilmacarti say any thing inure about Iteganti's employ ment ?...11e told ine that lie was a person of character; lie pal nothing else. When did you first disclose to Gotlachi that you bad taken these papers ?...On the 27th July. What year I... This year. Do you mean I 820 ?...Yes. Was that the first time you informed Godaclii?...lt was. Describe Cul. Brown's home : urn tiicre any odds sold there ? ...There is a shop on both sides of the door. What goods a.e sold in the bliopi, ?...Oa the left there is a tailor, on the right it dealer in alawster. What does lieganti sell ?...Tobacco and salt. Mr. W ensue bald be had no 'timer questions to ask. Cross examined by the Solicitor General. How long were you in the service of Cotlazzt ?...A year and a \'i ere you hi; Clerk all that time ?...Always. Doan ti the preseat to the 2701 of July. Wel:, Mil he turn you outot hi, service Have you ever becti in .hs ciiiiihiyiniAit ?... No. Do you mean to bwezir thin troln tne 27tia of Juiy down to the pre,eni time you never hate Lou in ute eaiii.ciy of COuilhal •••I can SA cur it a thousand toms. When v.ai it that you list went to the Adrue,:te Vi'apacurti? ...tierember of lust year. • Can you tell t., the day of ;he [bowls cloa't know the 'lay. Tell us about the time a as towards the etiu of the uktuthit. Din you know at that time that Vihinicarti was enlinoyed in the process against her Nlajcsty hen I went I knew .1. Dal you know Coe!azzi aas in I.a:session of papers of her ltoyal ?...l Nat weal w my own ue,k. D. 4 7ou hot. as an tkok4;:,t man, communicate this request to go to l ilmaearh's, w your illa.ter ?...No. Lhti you nut CollCtlle it your tatty to do so ?...1 thought at tLe lima: I could du 1.0 11E11111. Did Viiiriacirti pay yuu any thins for the pal cry you delivered the first time ?•••I le gate me guideo Niyoktak. and told me tatty were for Inc to take a Caol. wait. What dal he pay yuu tor the second parcel you save him ?... bIllgIC When you turn: tile third parcel what did Ire pay you ?...11e pain me rur then at anutiier tune. _ carried payers tee 10:kg a period, and having been paid by Vilinaearti, dal you LSer CUlthtlUlllt ate the cucuuastunco to C0:0ZZ1?...1 never b:tld t.n3 ;;.ios to Cuut.,zi. ho y ou nut mink that y,sti wc,c arLiag a u.ost infamous part in selling those papas to V hniaeurti ?...l (lid nut at the In:bin ning—(.y laugh.) When did you aicover that this cboduct was base and infs. mous ?...About the beginn.ng of Cits year—(A laugh.) Was it a discovery of lout (Atli that 0114 conuuc, wad bau . and infamous, or were you told it by another person?, .The are many who ad Usti, and infantonaly, and afterwards da ar, rad, tend ao leave I—( I . 8 ' itar-) Tmu. halmg it:ponied in Juntihry, you afterwarthi delivered to Viiii:;:wrti u lut of hete were live 01 tax of them, and 1 utot,.: war names. laid Vilinacarti pay you tur that intclligeuce ?...No, 1 gave him the hat. ;leganti pay you ?...I did not give the lilt to Reganti, but to Vain:ward. llow loi.g atcr this did your master, Cndnzzi, hear of it On the tense day th.tt 1 gave the list to Vilotacarti, 1 told it to eugazzi. With the exception of the list. did you deliver any other paper to Vilniacarti abet December ?...NO. Will you caear that pt,sitively ?...Ohe hundred times —(A laugh:.) Did you ever after that oiler papers to Vilitiaciarti ?...I never called till Colood Bruno bent thate illa last piyntent w,.cu CUiUllei ALON n ban me to thin, tottaida the end ut Mardi. W hat brim did you last receive from Vilmacarti, at the cud of it% o ii‘tes and a hat of Milan. Are yuu quite sure that was at the trul of March F... Yes. Will you bweur tutu Colonel Brown Ord not a..k you tau you were, and that u heu you retUseu to tell him, he shut the door, and said you siumnl hot quit the room uuul you tvld %via/ you were swear that is nut true. ad not Cohlkel Brown. on your giving him the letters, say you we:es a too:t inhal,otts Neon:Aire', anti th;:t you u0,..441 eott Lay bung lizni t ,cd?...lle Ahoel iv hanged, and sect 1, „ha- 1 /a.w not }Cid lid. 1 it not an answer to the question ;it is no; what you said, but shot Unmet lirou a said. '1 question was repeated, to which the witness answered, I repeat akin) it is nut taw. lie —ave toe the letters, but I.e no 1110 P: ; It shut the door oi the room in older that we sLoold not be otattl, and lie tu!d me nut to sioak so loud; and lie btl ow reed again tat Vilmacarti the next day, and lie would cause ate to raceli.e :no fr.a.es. Did ne laot, on ;Latin,: the door, say you should not go out until you told wl:o you %vie a hull he say , b(1. aucdr it. Did not Colonel Broau say you was a most infamous fellow? ...I c it many mays, In: inti nut ~ay so. Diu he hot say . )uu %uttia ct.d uy Ling Ingq,ctl ?...I-le never said an. hit he not t..ay something to that cfl ct?....V0 he did not. I home bet /1 solar, d iv agd,. umi Pity u, e taut c ittjhutous Man I aut. ICa a 111 . 14:v VI. CO.ul.Cl hivvll; the Mist he I.IIS not 01 110111 C I 1,11.-1.1.111 Y 11011 1.1111:1 ut ..1.11.111. I never taw Lan at his house but unc.:. It w:.s &lb°, t the chtl of Mulch thus ytar. 1 ti.ek to Cu.t Ltro.tii two in I.a:lTc:titers. Ilav;itg taut that you ,:iscovereti tbr fist time, in the month of J4lntary, thut it was inlati.ous to be.tay your ouster, I want to know it you c..aisitter rt inhanotts to sw..ar Oil your oath what is not true ?...To swe,,r the truth i, just. 11 oat true, 1 swear, and what 1 hive said 1 tun teaoy to swear. told Ccdazza these lac.* on diezita of July, low he intmeoiately elistoi,etl IV - liat are you to have for coining here ?...1 will receive no. thing. I come liehe to rarely my errui, Lila speak the truth. I swear I do not expset st.oil•eils:ittun tor cointag here. I s,,sar n 1., to renisuy the tell that 1 come hue, isnu toe no other tuthive wlta:e.er. I have lAA seen CodarLi silice 1 ieit his service. lle never sent fur rue. Ido not know that lie is still employed for air !loyal 1 - Stie ou ex:tn.:nu! by Cousasi on the 27th July ?...I told him ut ivy own ocou.ti toe wimie story. And Cotl..zzi wrote it down ?...No, 1 did, in my own hand. The SOLICITOIi GENEILAL said, he lied closed its cross. ---------------- Re.exatnined by Mr. Wylde. Imu twenty two years in age. It was on the day following the inteiview wit,i Loaniel Blown that I received money trout Vilinacarti. It was liner that itaerview that 1 gave the list of WILMS/A..5. The wilo.e sum I ittielVkAi was from 350 to 44 huncs. 'the LOAD CHANCELLOR :LAW if any Lord Wlntittl to ask the witness uny questions? No questions lieu% offered, the witness was ordered to with draw. .Ntr. Ilitouurease row requested that Punti might be recalled. Examined by Air. Wylnc. I know a person of the name of Ilegurtu. Ills Christian name is I'uiapyo ; I c sells too:teem meal, arc. When I was to hie simp, he bad alwitys something to tell me. On that occasion what Ohl ltegaint do ?...I went to beg some thing, and lit:punt said to toe, knowing I belonged to the Barone --'• l'otni, e you ever been there courtesies between her 1t0.,51 Highness anti Bergatiii % Now is the time to come lOrward to gam something, unit become a man." I answered, that I had seen. lle rejuined—" have you nut seen the P.mccas on horse. bac::, anti ikrgatili Ina his nand under her petticoat;? I told his, this 44..5 a perfect falsehood ; fur, inAeau of that, he putt all vz...pcct and dece.sey watch was due to that great pasoau;;e. I 6ave up going to Ins shop, he annoyed ale so mode on the subject. Crass examined by the Attorney General. I do not know the time precisely when the conversation I had menttunt.tl to.* place. lie stein tt to utters, that 1 C.lll mention no particular nine. Ile went even so tar as to say that he would wage war against her. Several persons were present at the tone. I eutila name Antonio barrasi ; the others 1 can't tell. 1 re 'rummer Barrala being pr,sent at suet' conversation only once. Lid any ming mute pass ?...1 NAlti I could say nothing of her Royal II for ell: was a 1110:it just and eitanumle 00111411. By Loin 1.. t t:IJILIi DA LE.— Were you yourself at the balls at t te Mimosa ?...I wit, you so the day before. Were your dmightels mete ?... because I here got none. !low cattle you to say the outer tiny, that you bud stipulated for a livre a day tor your vide, anal it ,It a litre for your uaugh t,lie at 'lnc.'s mentioned in Italtan dimunttivc, not meaning datagoLts, but intaat boys) 1 had a son iiine years of age, and tn..ers Vitae uuaer It. 1 had daughters, but they ate death. Antonio .1/emzi , worii, and examided by Air. WILMA Ms. Nov. come 1 rum Venice. B e r me wit.: oinployed in the Venice.-- N I am n nownger ol a playhouse. 1 Know ?Ault) Zaligla. uwho . inunag.d ut a theatre. I knev nine iw Ma ch. lnlri. , I wa., at a theatre in Venice ut St. Luke, in the month of Nu venbet. Lengla received two le.ters there we one time, I saw loin open t,.eiti, and mute a motion of burii.'is2 when lie matt After mat, &night and 1 went Lion S'e.dee to Aldan MT five or six clam by tile Dingenee. There was money deposited tor . the use of Zitagla th.: following day at rueut'the fiftetn Naeuteen4. When we arrived at Milan, we w, nt to o;ientz.le, to look for No. b4itl. lietore we cisi.e to the door taste was a taunt's scup. Zinigia went irto number LW. I waited below. Zangla remained were afoul a qualm of an hour. I %URA for min, and we went together to the Ind. %1 ode we rem:di:ea at Aldan, we went to th e I.OLISJ ut Vadat:art', the Altueutti Zaa.gla went tato the house, and continued to teinatn there at,otit an hour aaba a Tins wa. un the wilow nig day. I nanuta_n below, and Zalijla cattle mmn. Isere was anntlier 11 . C tt.cn went to the house of* Z.inglet me, 14114' his name. 1 ualy know one man moiled Bruhn. 1 don't know whether he was Coionel or a Major n tor I dialut Major Dwaine, that , WC Ids belt. I saw hint on toe following CitYs when he hid Z.magia, and Zangla aaiu he was Major Biown.— 'l'hey did not si.e..k to mica tatter, but they bowed. 'Lie sauna of the erred[ ill wind' lie .ivetl was I . OIW Oiteataie, the number was 660. Zangla went up stairs on the oeva,ion of which I have now paw. Zangla reuraintul there a quarter of au hour.—