The National Register. — London, England, 1819-11-29 00:00:00

2inperial parltan e..t• OTISL OP LORDS. tit:l/DAY. NOV. 23. OPENING or PANLIAMENT• This being the day appointed tor the meeting or Parliament. the Prince lte gent entered the Douse of Peers at two o'clock. icd having taken his scat oti the Throne delivered the following gracious t•peecli L.rda, and Goal( nicn. It is with great concern that I am again obliged to announce to you the continuance of His Majeatio lamented indUpobi {km I regret to have been under the necessity of calling you toge- M►rr yt this period of the year ; but the seditious practices so long prevalent, io sonic of the manufacturing districts of the armory base been continued with increased activity since you lt Ile lust assembled in. parliament. 'Chey b.tve led to proceeding, incompatible with the public tranquillity and with the peaceful habits of the industrious classes at the co.litiointty and a spirit is fatly manifested. utterly hos tile to the Consmution of this Kingdo.ti, and aiming not only at the change of those poltical institutions which have hitherto constituted the pride and security of this Country. but at the Subversion of th. ILizlits of property, and of all order in staiety. I have given directions that the necesiary information on this subjezt shall be laid before you; and I feel it my indispensable duty to press on your immediate attention the consideration of such incasurcs as may be requisite for the counteraction and sup pression of a system which, if not effectually checked, must bring confusion and ruin on the nation. Got/kitten if t/ic Huns,: o Co,itaous. The estimates for the ensuing year will be laid before you. The nec,:ssity of affording protection to the lives and property of his Majesty's loyal subjects has compelled toe to make sonic addition to our military force ; but I have no doubt you will be of opinion that the arrangements for this purpose have los n effected in the manner likely to be the least buithensume to the rummy. Althotig!l the revenue has undergone some fluctuation since the &se of the last Session of Parliament, I have the satisfaction of being able to Miami you, that it appeals to be agaiu in a course of prowvb.irk: iniptusement, Sour.: depression still continues to exist in certain branches of Our manufactures, and I deeply lament the distress which is in consequence felt by those who more immediately depend upon them ; but this depression is in a great measure to be ascribed to the embarrassed situation of other countries. and 1 earnestly hope that it will be found to be of isteunporary nature. Jfq Lords,and Gentlentei. I continue to receive from Foreign powers the strongest aims ?tweet of their friendly dispwitiou towards ells country. it is my most anxious wish that advantage should be taken of this season of peace to secure and advance our internal prospe rity ; but the successful prosecution of this ui,j , :ct must essen tially depsnil on the preservation of donne tic tranquillity. Upon the loyalty of the great body of the peoph; I have the most confident reliance; but it will require your utmost vigi lance and exertion. collectively anti individually, to check the &nomination of the doctrines of treason and impiety, and to mpress upon the minds of all classes of Ills Majesty's subjects. shat it is from the cultivation of the piinciples of religion, and trout a just subotdination to lawful Authonty, that we can alone expect the continuance of that divine favuvr and protection which have hitherto been so signally experienced ley this King. dam. The Ninee wirharew at the ern: ,union of the above. and the house was soon after clear of the noble and elegant company winch attended the ceremony. Refine the I.onl Cl inccilor wijourned the I louse to five o'clock. the Lake of Clarence and Duke of Richmond took the oaths and tlkir The Lord Chancellor having re , ..at , sred the !louse at five o'clock,. and taken his seat un the ‘Voui.-oek, tlte Itegent's speech M as again read. Lord :WAN vEas then rose to move the Address, witicli was an echo or the %retell. Lord CIiUKCILILL secouded the Address in a low tone of Earl GREY said, he could not give his assent to the Address, en the ground that neither the Address nor the Speech appearsd calculated to produce conciliation with respect to the people.— This House never assembled to perform its duty at a more awful crisis. Never had the Lords assembled surrounded by greater danger. lie toe one did nut think the line of policy adopted by Government wart such as to enable Mtn to concur in the Address. The Speech pre.-vnted strong and appalling statements oftlanger. Foul practices were said to prevail, and the Noble Lord seedily admitted the necessity of putting a stop to this dander, but not Ly acts of military power and new laws. lie had heard coercion recommended. but the Noble Look would rather recommend the }loose to adopt dime measures which would relieve the distresses of the people, by conciliation and concession. The evil arose tout the gricvaoces of the people, oecasiotiod perhaps by a line of policy wnisli had been too long followed. The speech from tie Throne stared, in strong terms, the extreme difficulties of the country, and the Subic Lord who moved the Address proposed some strung efficient measure as a remedy.. The internal state of the country was afflicting, lie was ready to agree, and it called on thi. OCCUSIOII Mr the primary c.onsidemtion of Parliament.— 'rlie cause of that state of things was principally a system of policy witicn in the eve of Pm-liament called for correction '1 he Noble Earl was ieritly to oppose the projects of Itadical Reformers. whe might w be considered as 'Ailing the people to ruin ; but whilst Parliament looked at that danger with a nererimaation to resist it. they a iouhl take care that they did not expose the Constitution to still greater dangers.— The Nuolu over tti the Addre:s said, the liberty of the people fright not to inter:: re with the safety of the constitution; but Lae safety of tile constitution depended on the preservation of public hue: ty. ii the Noble laird said one could exist without tie other, he was in error. '1 he situation of the country was wily lamentable. Discontent was heard every where, and con sequently tile pr.nnuhmutr was that the people were badly go verned. It could nut be supposed that 'restyle living tinder a not t bencticer.t government would feel any dispo itiou to rebel. .1% - a- people of in, country would doubtJela never turn upon their I,n:tutors. Parliament Were to say whetle.:r the disorders of Has country were nut occasioned by genetal distress. rlaS , llls it nave taken advantage or that distress. b a t p ro p er dis c, 'Mind I be rattle between those wart had 'teen intied and treir bail advisees, lnsiul;,ence nes du.: to tile unfortunate, who in die midst of suffers; aid cal .mots, had been led minty. A Noble MnenJ, two so ars agm.speaking on the state of the WWI - parted Lout Caine, who says, THE NATIONAL REGISTER. " The way to cure sedition is to take away the matter." - . Poverty and distress were the matter of sedition, and had Perlia inent eneltavaured to take away these distresses? it not supported the Government in their efforts to impose several re• strictive laws, some of watich broke down the bulwarks ut the Con -motion ? Coercion hail been the policy for ycwrs past. Little attention hiul been peiel to the real wants and grievances of the people. One Session, iudeed, hope was euterteined that attention would be paid to the queetion of purity of election and the buttliens of are people, but unfortunately that hope was destroyed. The Session pexied over, and to the disgrace of Go vernment and Parliament. it closed with laying on the stillie inn people three millions of taxes. In the course of this year the distresses increased. They had a starving population in many of the working districts. Could it then be surprising that ex cessee should be committed ? Could it be a matter of surprise that meetings should take place to promote reform in Parlia ment. A Meeting took place at Manchester, when dreadful misfortunes happened. lie regretted. that in the Speech no idlu eion had been made to inquire into those events. Ile did not support or sanction what was termed Reifies! Reform ; at the some time. God turbid he should prevent the people from meet ing to express V•eir setuiments, and endeavour to obtain a inure perfect state of representation. The e toe which occurred at Manchester, on the i - eh of August, was wally disgusting. and the Noble Eail expressed a hope that such another transaction might never disgrace a free country. The melancholy events of th it day had pioduced notch conflicting testimony; but, in his ()Onion, there wag a prima facie case 'against the Magistrates ? 'lime mit-giant won'tl be, whether the meeting was illegal, and that forcible means for Es suppression were justified. When the day arrived for inquiry it would be a question whether the means resorted to by the alegistretes were nut illegal. To justify themselves, they must prove that nothing but the force they employed could preserve the peace. '• If they cannot make out that, then I say all the bloodshed rests on their guilty heads, and that it is the duty of Parliament to wipe away time guilty stain. I ant ready to Late the whole of the traneectiona of teat melan choly day until the question can be brought before Parliament ; but there is a line of policy pursued by (Imminent on the occa sion which I tannot now pass over." lie did not wish to pre judge a question which was to come before a Court of Law, but was surprised to hear of extra-judicial conduct from those who recommended the Pi ince Regent to give thanks to the Magistrates and Vemileury for the prompt milliner in which t:iey. Lord Grey then adverted to the answer given to the City Ad drew. The Citizens were chastised, as it were, for ignorance of the transactions. If they were to talk of prejudging at question, what should they sly of the conduct of the noble Viscount and his Colleagues, who had not only ap; roved of the conduct of the Magistrates and Yeomen before they could tabus n correct infor mation, but on the evidence which they received from thou Magistrates. they bestowed thanks and commendation equal to any given for conquest over a foreign enemy? No sympathy was expressed for the steering victime. Was it not a duty, in atl vuung the Crown to ex.reise. its high ) rerugative, to institute enquiry into all the causes which led to intetruptionef the public peace ? That ditty was involve on them, and the answer given to the City of I.ondon was unjust. It there had been an abuse of the Magisterial authority, it was the duty of the Executive Go vernment to prevent a repetition of hat breach of duty. llad . they never hail proceedings extra-judicial? They bad known imptiries going on in Parliament a 'die men were under trial tun Digit Treason. It was shocking to common sense to tell the people that repeat's would be published and trials take place, after offences were commiucd. Inquiry should have been instituted long since.. After they had been afflicted they w-'re told an exa rnin ttion could not be had because it was extrii.jotheial. Tory might have recourse to justice. but Parliament could do toting for them. Was that the mode in which the eutierings of the people ought to be treated ? Adverting to the meeting in York. shire, he characterised it as large, respectable, moderate , and constitutional. They pronounced no improper opinions, and yet, for presiding at such a meeting his Noble Friend »as dismissed from the uihec of Cord Lieutenant of the comity. Lend Grey stated the amiable qualities of Earl kitzwilliam, and repre sented him to be a neat whet of all other* was the most proper to stand forward as a mediator between Government and the public. lie for one could never have supposed the government were weak enough to resort to such a proceeding— fur what was it but saying, tiny individual, however bight in rank, who sleet say one word againa us, shall be turned 01:c of office? It we-s inked perseverame in a system of coercion. Ilaviag de precauei the proposition to relic an additional niiiiiary force of I lOW omen, he ob'erve-d, that this country was fast approac:eing the state and condition of Ireland. It was in a sate of sup pressed discontent, which would break out in violence. AGo vemment which rested on the sword could never be free ; and if mumblers:al, furewel the most sacred institutions. What bad given commercial advantage. military skill, and bravery in our fleets and &nines ? What but toe seemed spirit of treedoun, the knowledge that we enjoy our rights aril privileges. lie appealed to the Noble Duke, whether the free spirit of Englishmen had I not extricated him from dange r . Take away the lank of free. don front the people. and they have no lancer a country—all is lost. The Noble Earl concludes! by moving, as an amendment, a counter addreta, in which he proposed to enter into inquiry respecting the state of the country, and particularly into trans- Metloll6 at alancheeter on the 16th of Augmt, with other pro- ceedings, which might prove to the people of England, that Parliament were the true guardians of the liberties of the country. Lori Viscount SID MOUTH said, he rose in consequence of the manner in which the Noble Earl had spoken of measures which attached exclusively to himself. He made hirusrlf sub ject at the same time to all the responsibility of these measure.. With respect to the military force, it was known to the Noble Lords that, notwithstanding the military retrenchments which had beim made, that Cie military force was now insufficient.— The Prince Regent had summoned Parliament to increase the army, and lay before them eviderice on wuich they could act for tile benefit of the country. In suite instances laws which were weak required to be improved.—The tramactione of Male ehester next came under the Noble Viscounts comideratton.— He stated that the twelve inagistraten, appointed by the County magietratea of Lancashire, were men of high character. They were appointed for the ;impose suldy of attending at Manchester, with a view to contribute to tie preservation of the public peace. Ale. play the chairman, and Mr. Norris were stidendiary magis trates. nominated by the Chatwe'dor of the Duchy itt Lancaster, 'file conduct of those per,en, had been subject to more misrepre sentation than ever hail been known upon anx public event. It always had been the policy of tiovernment to protect the magis• trates, but independent of thet policy, the magistrates of Man chester were entitled to protection. The Noble Viscount stated, hat on the day after the Nlanchreter tumult the magistrates cattle to town to give inthrmation touching the events sr Inch bad hap pened. 'l'.ley were examined before the Privy Council awl Law Officers. The result was, an opinion ou the part at' the Law Officers, that they had acted legally.. The meeting was held to be illegal. The cases of cruelty tliitalled to .t ie public haul been negatived. Weer, hear., Al the same lime tine excesses cout nuiued on individuals at Manchester and elsewhere, who belong. ed to the police s had never been named. A eonsteble name. Hanwell was stoned to death in ...lancj.ester, end :mutate otheer nearly deprived of life. Not a single life, it appeared. bad been lien at Manchester, a t con•wpa. , nce of the blows of the Yew/214.111y Cavalry. That regiirient had not conducted themee.ves end the thanks conveyed to them wa.• ti a izseli of limo. e5:n..1.4110 by evi :coca Mae they nail trawks Noble Viscountadverteil to the case of Hal F;tzwil;ititn, aii,l observed, that the Luen of the Noble Lad, and his conduit at the Yorkshire mei:tins', let; nu ruon to doubt that all confidence Nov. to between hint and the Government was at an end. lle left the subject with that declaration, and concluded wit!, iservim.t. that Pairlintne-,1 was coiled opal, to provide a remedy tin the present state of the country. The Noble Earl had recommended a plan, but thew Lordships would doubtless use their own views of the subject. If the Noble Earl persisted in his amendment he should oppose it. Lords Erskine. Ring. Lansdowne, and Caernarvon, spoke in favour of the amendment. Lords Carytint, 'Alford, Eldon, Liverpool. the Duke of Athol and Marquis oflitackingliam, in support of the Address proposed Ly Ministers—on a division there appeared. Nun Conetrits present 121 Proxies 3hi 159 Contentspresent noxies 3 Afajority foe Minieers fYs WEDNESDAY. NOV. 24. THESE MTN! lON OT THE ADDRESS. The House met this day at one o'clock. pursuant to adjourn. ment, for the purpme of prt.tomtiog the Aildres, votetl by tht. Lords to his Royal II ighntsis the Prince Regent, in answer to his most gracious speech. . _ . - rloWu after the Lord Chancellor had taken his sect, the Earl of Shafttathury, on the motion of the Earl of Litiffpnol, was reelected to the otFtec of Chairman of Committees. Two ileporta relating W .Appeala were then received, and laid on the 'ruble. The !Mit 0 CHANCELLOR, at two o'clock intimated that • it was time to proceed t ith the Address, and consequently the tollowing I .ords entered their earn:44es :—The Lord Chancellor, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Earl Ninnvers mover of ti e Add re. 4). Lord Churchill (the 6:Total). the Earl of Liverpool, the Earl of Shefteshury, the Bishop of !Anthill: and other Lords spiritual.. The procession returned from Carlton [louse about. tour o'c.ock, whet) the Peers adjourned till to-morrow. The Prince Regent's Answer to the Address will be reported to the !louse wants:Tow, . TiII.RSDAV, NOYEMBER 23. The flouseassemblc.l at tour o'clock. The LORI) CHANCELLOR laid before the House tl Prince Regent's most gracious Answer to the Address presented to his Royal Highness yestetilay. SiTA'll... OF COUNTRY. Earl BATHUHS'r laid on the table, by command of his Royal Highness the Prince Regent. papers ►imilar to those presented to the House of Commons lust night by Lord Castle. reafth. _ . 1"n aaswer to a question across the table. tile Earl of LIVER POOL said, it was intended to introduce bills to-morrow night Muncie,' on tl:ese papers, which might be read a first time. and perhaps :tlonday night would be a fit time to appoint for discus.ing them. The Nl.aquis of LANSDOWN asked, whether it was inten ded to mahout any specific motion with a view to the examina tion of these . papers, or to refer them to the comidtration of a Select Committee. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that the papers themselves would disclose a sufficient body of evidence. and therefore it was not the intention to appoint a Select Committee, nor to take any express measure for their examinstion. The Marquis of LANSLIOWN then gave notice, that he would move tau Tuesday next for a Comutittee on the State of the Nation. The Earl of LAUDERDALE moved. that there be laid on the table an account of the total amount of the Revenue for the yeah 1817. 1818, and Ist% reepecti►ely, distinguishing the produce of the Consolidated Fund. the Customs. and the Re. venue in each quarter; and alto of the net produce of the rues for the year 1819, in the (muter ending tne tOth Octoben—Or dere.l.—The Roust then adjourned. rtun.»•, trov. 46. I'lle House met at t o'clock, but there was no busincsc before t;ieit Lordioiirs ; and without any thing baring occurnal. they at S o'clock adjourned to Monday.. HOUSE OF COUMONS... TUESDAY, V. .V. 23. The House met at two o'clock. and were summoned by do Usher of the ((lack god to attend the i1011.4* of Peers to :.ear the Speech front the throne, (for which see Lords.) Upon their re turn they attiottruud till lour, when the SPEAKER took thst Chair. ADDRESS TO TUE PRINCE REGENT. The Honourable SUMER; COX. Aiember for Ilortfonl, moved the Address, which was au ecno of the Speech front tha, throne. Mr. CUST seconded it. The SPEAK KR having read the Address, . Mr. 'IIERN KY rose. (The (louse was. uncommonly fall nor.) He said, on ordinary occasions lie might nut ;lave felt it necessary to rise. Ile understood that many assertions made to day were to be proved by documents; btu nevertheless he felt it has duty to trouble the (louse with an Amendment. lie thought not a moment ought to be lost in presenting to the Regent astate meat of what were their real sentiments, not a mere formi ad dress, lie deplored the lamentable condition to wiiieli the Country was reduced ; and he lamented as much as any man could lay progress that infidelity. might have made. lie was, however, glad that the laws hail been found sufficient to put down the in fidel. (Hear, hear.) Regarding the mass of the people, they remained untainted ; they were mote moral and pious than any pate le on the face af the earth.. As to the seditious and treasons of the country, or rather of certain districts, he believed that no thing but a severe and rigid exertion of the Magistracy was required to ptu them down.. It' theta were general disaffection, what laws could check it ? But the real cause of all the difficulty was the pressure of tattaion—the people in truth were overtaxed —(l.oitilcheers.)—lie had pointed out these things in vain.— Millions had followed millions. The people saw that the state• of representation was not beneficial to theni-4Continued cheer• ing.) Ile meant not the visionary symein of the Radicals, for all things must have a name, but the people believed most extensively that there must be Reform; (Hear, hear) and he thought they were right. The House was the guardian of the public purse ; if the public purse were abused. wl o could the people blame but those gnarditina ? If Cie people's money were always squindered—if armies wete granted in vela, as well as new laws and new taxes--if trade were stagnant, and distress every where seen ; was it surprising that the House should be complained of—that the people should not have all the desired on in the liaise of COMM,IIII. But with the Radicals he would bold cot quarter; his plans were not their's— their's 'were visionary and dangerous, and their partizans at tacked the opponents of Government in that House as vehe mently as Minuted. , and he believed they were indebted to much of then security fn consequence of so adroitly managing their vitilacratiims. Rut he wiia bon alarmed at the Radical strength, but ne did feel shinned at those circumstances which were press ing heavily oil the prospviity of the country. And he melt alaeliel at ilia system who 'solid! set his face against afl Retinae. rabic:viol' hail i reproved the population, and persons were to be found at itie corner of every street who could not believe that every thing which existed was wise, paid, and excelient ; and if they thosigit of governing by force, then indeed was the country on the verge Of . a dreudial evils. Such a system would be f• and wrong ; they who urged it would uhi itettely tail: he was sate of this. (tiny.) In the Address lie was surprised no allusicia a isa made to the fatal 16th of August; and he contended. that the meeting would have passed ow quietly . hail there not been the interruption of the Civil and Yeoinaurr