The Statesman. — London, England, 1819-12-14 00:00:00

F I a• the people; that it bad lost it. chancier, =v to iola only be supported by the affection end re ed the public. Lord I'OSTLEREMINI, to order, contended, t!iat the 010:11;ret — net - _waq now too late to Contesd that this te:.s., mg a libel ; the House ha., derided that qnestion. Mr. agreed in opinion with the Nubie 144 but the Han. Baronet bad a right to urge a matter BURDETT resumed.—He wonld not then et justify the publication new under consideration; tat mast say that it was herd, when hundred. of ll has Wore ss eeistenee, that this alone should be selected 4 Many libels were to be Gland, reflecting on the House, even in that pert of the Press immediately under tl.e prolamin oftloverament. Hs would read one from The Afindirig hie. Mr. WYNNR rose to wder. He sable itted. that it was regular in any Member to read or cite sae breach of privilege is defence of another. Sir V. BUKDE'TT did not inlaid to cite a breach of privilege f he did not consider writing, either is news papers or pamphlets, ass breach of privilege. An inter• rnption is the medial filiation. 'tithe House was a breach of privilege. He bad beard nothing from the Hon. Ment her who called biro to order, which went to prevent his reading • newspaper. Thedfonsiag Poo said—" Mr. Bennett, last night, brought forward his motion on the inked of the disturbed districts."— Mr. BANKS rose to order. Lie contended that ii was irregular fur the Hon. Member to read any thing from seerepspers. Mr. BROUGHAM, to order, could see no difference between reeding from a pamphlet or • newspaper ; ane. the-Hon. Member for Yorkshire had been permitted, fir the purpose, of debate, to read from his pamphlet the other night usinterrepted. The SPEAKER said, be could sot draw a line be tween Pamphlets and Newspaper'. If the Hoe. Baronet was sow about to read in extenuation, he most read Wronger roars than those sow the subject of com plaint, which had been declared a libel. Reeding such a passage costa not operate as an extemietion; it would be a breech of privilege, and the Hon. Baronet, if he read such passages. would be bound to cell the attention of the House so the.. _ Mr. BANKS and Sir C. BURRELL mutually ex- - Sir F. BURDIFFP said, if such was the decialon of the Busse, it world be useless for him now to detain ; them further; be would state his reason on the question for munnsittal to Newgate, if that question should come ; before them. The Hoes. then divided oa Sir C. Burrell's Amend- , mut, 40—For the original Motion, !VS. Mr. BARIVIST7' presented a Petition from Rochester, sput the uwasturs now pending in Parliament. Mr. C. CALVARY presented a Petition segued by , ROO peruse, from the Borough of Southwark, against She Bills in prutress through the House, and praying for the dismisaion of his Majesty's Ministers. lie thought the Nesting at blaushester had been illegally dispersed, and that the proceedings at that Meetiug Tight not to be confoended with those of the Radical aisteesees. Sir R. WILSON spoke to the respectability of the persons who had signed the Petition. They were the friends of peace and good order, but also the friends of Eberty, who, while they titi the Constitution, would also stand up fpr the rights of the people. The Petition ers seer with horror the enactments in some of the Bills tlaitly borrowed from what bail taken place in France in the reign of Terror. It had been said by the great Lord Chatham, that an Englishir.un's house was his ;as. tie, and that the Riot csnir not, and dared not miter it ; but, by the Rill before the House, the EniCietinsan's castle was taken tansy. The t'rtitioo was then read and laid or. the table. A Messags from the Lo-de, informer! tl.e House that tley Lai passel] a Eli' to prerrrt delay in case of 31;s deeneanor, to which they tie.iretl the concurrence of that House. The Pitt was read a tint time, and ordered to be read a semaial time on Wediseeday. SJ r s ri y GI I. Lord EAVTLFREAOI! mlved the Order of the Day for the third goading of the Bill to preveut Sedatioms Pfeetioga. Lcrd it. fIAMILTON was compelled, with much re luctsr.e,, to rote for the Bill, in consequence of facts cad circumstances known to himself. By voting for the Lill then before the Howie, be neither assented to the 'other measures of Ministers, nor to all the statements ens". had been made en the subject of the present Pill. lie was curry to say, that the measures of Mini-teo scented to he more adapted to increase the disatfection than to relieve the distr.-,s. He felt himself imperiously called upon to support the Bill, from the state of the um selector:or districts. Mr. HUTI'HIPitiON regretted th-t the la:1 speaker should have supported such a Bill. Fist hiawnelf, he had no hesitation on the stillject, and should tote a;aitist the third reading of the Pill. Ministers seemed to be attested by a systematic intention to make tzar on the liberties of mankind et large, awl were attempting to execute at home what they had failed in abroad. Should the House vote for the third reading of the Bill, be should move that Ireland be exempted from the opera- Uses of it, which the Noble Lord had described to be in a state of tranquillity and prosperity. The Bill was wholly ustiecessaty with respect to Ireland, as there bad been no assemblage in that country since the Manchester Meeting, to express disapprobation of what bad taken lace there; and meetings far Parliamentary Reform were wholly unknown. A Right Hon. and Learned * 1 Oman ( hlr. Plunkett) bad stated the Meeting at ester to be illegal; bat he would call upon that per. Oentlemas to state, if be thought such a Hi MO called for in indeed. Were Ireland in a state of rebellion, no stronger measure ovoid be resorted to than the use before the House.—(Heerl) Mr. L. FOSTIIit stated, that the speech of the lion. Gentleman would make many this themselves ag e:Lod, who, bet for that speeds, would bare never of the ateesure.—(liesr, heart from the Oppe sitioa.)--His meaning would be perfectly clear, when he stated, that in Ireland ail pubiic meetings were held in bosses; and such meetings were not at all affected by Oa present Bill. He had heard, that permits from Man chester had come over to Ireland, and were pertu.hu- Wing the ronstry, I. the Lope of making consorts, awl though their success had been little or none. still the relent measure was oat of salutary precaution. Mr. PLUNKETT said, that as he was so p'sirectly and personally called up, he felt it necessary to say a few words. le answer to what had fallen from the Hon. tientleman, he must say, that he did not think his elsa racier would Mee say thing from the part he had taken es a former night, when the business at Manchester some to be diensmold---(Hear, hear*.). —He considered the resent measures as not directed against any principle of Os Constitution, or founded on any temporary views, big sash as the existing state of society called for. In Ma .pinion, the state of society bad not experienced a greater change from the time of the Conquest, than it bail undergone within the last twenty or thirty years; osleaordinary events and sew notions of tillers had risen op in the world ; and as extension and intensity of (weight prevailed upon all subjects. This was dose wieMpelly through the medium of the public press. He Ad sot mess to complain of the liberty of the rem; on She contnrq he considered a well conducted press as the most effectual petal:is of -the liberties of the cowl. TilE STATESMAN try. But when he fourd that a very different press had necessary to bring in the aid of military torte. Without grown up in the conowy, he could not help expressing pledging himself no support all the clauses of the Bill, the alarm lie felt at this dangerous innovation. It was he felt himself bound to concur entirely in its principle. necessary that there 'distal' be legal restraints, and a The word "liberty" had been very flippantly sod in harmonious law essoblishril for all thew who were Inca- that debate He should beg to call the attention of the ble of cempreheedleg the principles on which laws were lions, to what mac oderstood by 3;r. Burke to be the generally;•tonuded; lied if was necessary that these tree meaning of thr4 word. - Preserve," sail he, in his should be qcieev subonittyl to; and that the lower first address fads Electors of Bristol, in the year 1174. clones should tot be taintht to hold them in contempt. " pteserw roe liberty inviolate; to do so is the pro- Botaelientlvnen, ire set. wad said—" Let us come bark perry of every Member of Parliament." He then ex to the good old times of our ancestors." Now, if he planted what that liberty was. " But it is that liberty knew any thing of hiitcry, he would venture to say therei which is connected with honour and with virtue; and it aserser-were such growl obi times as those alluded tn.—, is nut only reinnected with them, but it canoe nisi (Hear, hear.)—With -egard to the 'season. dem beforel without th..:n." The necessity of coneill'ation had been the House, tie wialtealso koner how it interfered with the I greatly itts:rted on by I Hon. Members; hut be rights of any of the subjects of this realm% 'they all 1 hogged to know, how was a conciliatory system incom had a right to the free expression of their opinions, anti : psitible with the present tneaseres? Put he Wi. , itlit Le would appeal, to the cotumon sense of all who heard' 17 rge on the Molise, that the t!elty of Par:iantent, i.. ,: e - him, if, for the purposes of free discussion, this Art present crisis, was a duty of erotecti.m. They owed would not remedy the abases which already rendered I protection to all the loyal, peaceshn industrious, and free discussion impracticable. He saw no thaws what- utt:epining orders in the country. They owed it even ever for exempting Ireand from the operation of the B. to the misguided authors themselves of all the distur as there were tie freesia,' there but in houses, and he bunco. Lastly, they owed it to themselves to see that was sure the Catbo:.es of that country would have no the Constitailon should not perish.—(.'beer):) - • objection to the measles, so long as tlity bad a confident The question was then loudly called for, and an Hon. I hope that the English people could soon give them a Member apptar:ng anxious to speak, the cry of with &bare of their liliert:e3.—(Mr. P. sat down amidst thud draw was repeated from the House several times. ILe cheers.) ' Gallery was nearly cleared, when !Ir. Scarlett was ois- Lord MILTON said, that the argument of his Right served to rise for the purpose of addressing the lionse. Hon. Friend, about the danger of a little ksowledge, The Messeoger, however, persisted it forcing strangers might have been equally opposed to Luther Red Calvin from the Gallery anJ closing the doors. and their followers, woes they attempted to bring about Mr. SCA KLETT rose, and said that he 'odd very a reformation in religion • and how be asked estre . peo- willingly admit, that the power of holdiog,. in futures' pl. to :,ecome enlighteseil if they did not first ranee a such meetings as those against whirl the Bill professed tittle koowle.%,e ? The Parliament had now bestialities' to slut, ought to he taken awe'. Whet he found fasli. three weeks, and not a word was said about the increase with nil*. that It went for;L:r than even its p! opuses, of the army, by adding 11,0110 men to the regular foree;.: intruded. !IA tbii Bill ceefi...ed itself to the dispersing' a nteaswe which be believed was contrary to the law of Borough meetings or assemblies of persons in large and constitution of the country. The present Bill was manufacturing towns, he would be the last to resist it. a most alarming attack on the liberties of the plapic; But üby direct. it iteainst the respectable popuJoth the first time such an attempt was made, was is 1 7 Z , comedy Ineetillge Glilistlititisirlally convened, those Meet. when the Sovenign was insulted on his way to the in f o that in the eye of our law have been always held to House of Parliament, and when various societiesin Eng- be so respectable' There seemed, however, to prevail laud and Scotland sere plotting the overthrow of the a good deal of panic and alarm amongst gentlemen on Constitution. The House might depend upon it, that this subject; and what was not a little remarkable, more very considerable alterations anti corrections toust be amongst those who were most remote from the scene of made in the Bill, before it was rendered palatable to the the disorders. But these Irish Grade:nen, forsooth! country. He would not impute to the Governmect a are anxious to save the remaining liberties of this coon-' direct project fur the establisnment of arbitrary tiovern - try. H o w did they propose to do it? W a s it by putting w anent i n this country, but he would fearlessly say, that it in the power of a single Magistrate, who at best was the Bill before the House absolutely destroyed every to more than a man, to disperse a meeting convened' means of re s ' • g the growth of arbitrary power. under the authority of the High Sheriff, and in every Mr. ROBINSON said, that no man was more slow respect constitutional? Now to see how far this power than himself to see danger in the ebullition of popular would look, by the test of applicability, to practice. feeling. But when he looked to the state of the coon- Here was a Mr.gistrate (with great respect for that body) try, when he inquired into the grounds for apprehending fell of prejudices and politics of his own. A meeting the progress of a mischievous spirit in it, he felt that it is about to be convened, which happens not to splice in was impossible to resist the belief that we were seriously exactly iv;tla his notion of things. Au easy course is threatened with danger. Vs bat, he would ask, was the open to hin.—he needs only go, eretenti there is seine danger which threatened the country now? That dew ow there who might not to he there, proclaim it an Un ger presented itself in the avowals of the parties them- lawful assembly, wed subject every one user and above selves against whom the Bill was pointed. He would twelve persons, who rentpin after the preclatueion, to refer, for instance, to the Meeting at Birmingham, transportation for seven veers.—(ilear, bear'.)-Was a hire the most audacious attack that the must as- this tlie doctrine the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Plun dacions Reformer coald invent against the majesty kett) wool , ' coutend for: Hs chservA, however, that of the (*ono' tution had taken place.—(Hear, hear 1) their was an exception in favour of merings in rooms. He would call the attention of the House to the meeting A wits provision, fonueth! He conteni:ed, :ha if there at Ilunglet Moor, the Resolutions of which were in sub- was really any danger at al, it was better suppressing stance the saute as those agreed to previously at Binning- the right to •neet allogether, than, by coofiniugit to oar ! ham. The Aleetieg at Manchester had been often al. row bands, make the for ce of it s-v.)neer.--(tlear'.) holed to, and great stress had been laid on the circuit', There was another cans_ to which he begged the igen stance that the first intention to hold a meeting iu that lion of the House, that was the clause prohibiting meet town had been abaudoued. lint why was it ahaedoned i• ings for the pervie of discussing any thing connected The :ndividtial himself who was this prime mover in all with trade, n:anufacteres, or profession. Now he would the meetings, bad declared that the meeting bad not been ask, what-would be the consequence of a Alember want-' put off, because it was imagined by him and his party ing a nunsber of fanners to petition against a tax upon that there would be any illegality in assembling , but , he wool , or any ot her s u b j ect about agriculture? He could said, because the intended meeting was not expected to not aster:hie thew: out of dr: parish, neither could he go I be physically able to vindicate what be called their right to a neighboaring parish. The iocnsere, he continued I to meet, is ease there was any opposition. N 4 person to say, would not hare the effect of soppressing discom who had yet expressed as opinion ea this sublet dewiest test or accomplishing the reete.ts which were eitpected i l that the prevalence of these meetings was a ver alarm- from it. After some more remarks, be concluded b i be y ing evil. If the fact was thee so, world , timid entering his protest against Ilse Bill. there he any thing more injurious, at least to the pub- The ATTORNEY-UENERAL rose in rely to some lie right of meeting, then the necessity which di mi- of th e arguments of the lion. and Learned tins lenasn i muted to exist, of barirg these meetings almost noon w h o h ad j'tst sat down, arguments which be contended i intended by a military force. He felt that thircnomoat could only be founded upon an unacquaintaoce with the was driven into the adoption of these measures, "Ltd how. enactrcetas of the Bill itself.—(Hear.)—He distinctly l ever much lie regretted the necessity, he could net avoid denied, that under the present Bill, magistrates )1;11 giving his decided support to them. power to disperse a meeting ; they certainty could put l I Mr. T. SMITH observed, that a great deal of thole- any individual into cuatodv, and tit the event of bring hilarious principle of the Bill had beer removed, by ex- resisted Its mii doing, cola have recourse to force...— ! eluding from its operation all meetings held within (Cheers from the Oppositiol.)—Gent'emen might cheer, ' doors. But he begged leave to state to the House a re- bet he had wore than onLe before, stated the same opi workable circumstance. which the marginal note stated, mien. Now, witi. regard to the argument, that a Magts that the exception tliil not extend to any meeting held trate inignt act upon a speculation of their being per in a private room. This, be supposed, crept in, in an un - suns at the meeting whose appearance would warrant l authorised way.—(llear.)—A good deal had been said him in dispersing it, be asked, did the Hon. and Learned lin praise of the disinterested conduct of the unpaid Ma- Gentleta to forget, that in that case the Magistrate acted gistrary. He would venture to say, that the Magistrates upon his own responsibility. In sewer to the objee ! would prefer, in moat instances, their privileges to per- then about Trade, he observed, that it was admitted niary remuneration. Upon the whole , he could not give rooms were excepted, he would ask was not that enough, hi ...upport to the Bill. or could it be necessary fur 10e1OU persons to meet in Mr. LONG WELL4SLEY thought that it was the the open air, and discuss a matter of trade or profes dui) of every Member of that House to state the grounds 'l ion? —( Hear .) — He concluded by expressing_ a hope, upon whirl, ha gave his vote. Fur his part, he supported that he had answered the arguments of the Hon. anti the Bill from a si"" l re "aviction that it did not ildriafr Learned Gentleman opposite, and unmasked their fallacy public liberty; but that in remedying the abuses , it af• t o the House. by showing that they were Sounded upon forded the most effectual security for the exercise of the an seacgolaistance with toe provisions of the Bill rights of the people. Mr. SCARLET"' explained. Several Memin.rs role to address the Howe, but Mr. DENMAN had sot been reconciled to the Bill Mr. WILLIAMS having first caught the Speaker's since its progress through the Committee, and be would eye, proceeded to explaia the rename why he opposed consequent) not cease to oppose it in every siege.— the Bill—lie thought th at its provisions went farther ( Hear.)—T he Learned Gentleman then took occasion to than the evils complained of, even admitting that those repeat the arguments he had used Lenore, asserting that, evils were proved to exist. The Bill professed to aim as the law at present stands, Magistrates had no power lat the removal of these tumultuary circumstance% which to disperse a meeting, either by the Statute of Henry attended public meetings; bat in reality went.to the et- 4th, Wary the 7th, or the Magistrates' oath. Ile ob . 1 tent of abridging the geseral right of the prol e . Sep- served. that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite ' posing, for instance, that a requisition were a ddressed to (the Solicitor General) must have confounded these two the High Sheriff of a County, and that be refused to will Statutes together. its arguing that Magistrates had that I a meeting , the consequence must be, that the peopl e power. As a lawyer, and a Member of that House , he w o uld meet in their own respective parishes. But there' declared it as his opinion, that a Magistrate had so I were Malls parishes in which oily two kinds of persists other power than that of arrestiog individuals at a existed, namely, the farmer and his landlord. It was/ meeting.—(llear, hear.) , evident, therefore, that a public meeting , composed of ; Mr. K. MARTIN could not sit still under the imps such individuals, must prose nugatory as to the purposes : tatipn, that Irish Members had,upun this occasion, given for which %lief:minty meeting was wished tobe convened. I support to Ministers in carrying tit rough measures which Ile was willing to admit that Sheriffs might not be un- i were not called for. He came over purely with an in der the influence of the Crown; bon it ties very . proba- , tertian to defend the Constitution, and he thought he tale that they might be under the influence of tin pas- ' could not give a greater proof of his sincerity, than giv shams and prejudices. He himself was acquainted with ing support to a measure which was likely to be areuni one instance of a refusal to hold a meeting, is conse- partied with unpopularity.—(A lcugh )—He thought quenrs of motires of a private nature, and the meeting proposisg amendments at this stag es it was obvious he could assure the House was entirely for charitable they could not be carried, was only irritating wantonly, porposes. Bat he would at the same time implore the already sore feelings of the people. Government to resort to cootiliation. If be were asked The SOLICITOR GENERAL wished to know upon what he metal by coociliatioa, he would say, he wished what grounds an Hon. and Learned Gentleßan opposite Parliament to express its sympathy is ,the "BIN° of had undertakes to say that it was in the contemplation the peop le, and sorrow for the causes or those mwm•Ill- et the Cabinet to erect a coaserthip upon the press.— Ho go farther. He would ',dearest to kin I (Hoer.) —That !warted Gentleman almuld have bad g oat * moderate and rational reform. Ho would adoPd 1 good reasons being be advanced a charge so grave and no sudden or visonary plan of Reform, but woad Base i mhos' is itsuature as that. He then proceeded to de-; dually introduce it. Cowhan as d be was. that easeiß- f e ud the opinion he had before gine, and the law upon alien, such as be load described, wield be the wrest wed , which he bustled it. It was not through mistake that ' only remedy towards removing lte diecnotest of the be used the Statute of Hoary VII. foe Henry IV. for one Caney, he felt be could nut suppoefathe premed plan of was made M explain and confirm the other, with regard I thercion. to the power of dispersing a meeting. He again re- Lord MORPETH said, that from all the ineenthation r ood. tau se power was rent to Magistrates to dis he could collect, he was led to the (*whisks , that if , past by He shuns, bet only to arrest individuals, and Meetings in the North were not prevented by the strong ' Lave recourse to force in case et resistance. interference of new Guestimate , it would he absolately f W. DiINNAN repeated the /wart*, that neithe • 1 1110 - CODIEDI Ili 3D of the Peace tsar any Itatute g nro. nowt? to Magistrates by direct force to disperse a meet e,-. Lord FOLKSTON:3 said, he was not surprised :Se the d e bate had degenerated altogether into A di,....ter ge spun particular cleuses. when he recollected tie it tt e Bill had, in the many stages through whirls it had g o o ey been presented to the House in so inane different , :::ses. The measure had sow taken a form different lr - rc:a as its other changes, for it wn.s called by an Bonita:oh!! lied Learned Gentleman ( A': .Plunbett) an improveolt it cpsa the spirit of the Cons.itutioo, instead of being Whet other tiorourthle Gentlemen admitted it to be, na ic fraction upon the 4 ',lnstitution. resorted to from niece . sits. A 11 , cht lion. Gentleman (Mr. Robinson), a Mem ber of the C.,bit, t, had said, in speaking ofthe conduit of the people, that this was no sudden spirit, bat had been crowing up since the commencement of the !tend 1 Rev,Antion. V. by had Ministers permitted it to grew? Was it nit strange to hear a Cabinet Minister assert that the d troci i iti. , spirit had been growing up for 90 long a time, and chat its p r ogress received no dwelt ? n e denial given by the Solicitor General to the declaration of an Ilan. and Learned Gentleman (Air. Penman,) that a discussion had talten place in the Cabinet open the toestioa of appointing a Censor, did not pr.stb .:e an conviction on leis mind that such an eppointment wois not under deliberation. It bad been, he loslierei, stated upon good authorite, that such a di,• esel:m had :sea plate. and judginglrom what W 33 agreed to in !Or %la. Meet, the House unCht mt.. naturally :ante it for granted. The lime. it was to be boiled. ?wild prise h e t et , t h e Bill was suffered to pass. But the Bill avinst the liberty of the ,nre,s, his which securities were retro:red. was worse ;ban any cenearsliip.--(Hear. bear !I—Would the House pass such Bilk as those withtnt knowing sere of the tiers..? of the red with *kick the.y •!Jatenu.A. ft was a political 3 , 0.0!:1 that the ruling r ower hal always a tendency to de,• etistut but these Bills .e:.:: £:ertiv to thrtabOlition of tit^ l'onstitution. Mr. HGNEYWOOD said he had the li.taonr to repro, sent a most loyal and independent county: awl from ail he bad observed, he considered it a libel upon the people to say that there existed amongst them an, distiffectioe. Thee were not disaffected towards their K ing an d ca „.. try.but they were indeed disaffected towards his Majes ty s Ministers: and if a feeling of that kind was crimi nal, he must ideall guilty to it himself. lie owed them no allegiance, and would pay . them none. Os the cos. trace, lie should evince his indepeosionce, by resisting all their efforts at innnvatino. Mr. IdEOltlig BANKES spoke it favour of the Pill. After which a division took place, when there apt peered— For the Bill . . Against 313 lisnr;ty . . ...... 218 The BM t hen read a third time and paased. - - Upott on' re-sdiuissioti to the galh•ry, we found Mr. JOHN WHARTON upgn 1,,s legs, proposing a clause for the admissicn of reperters to meetings. He made some observations upon the necessity of having accurate accounts of n hat t00 . .< ploce, the only means of else"- ing which could he by exempting reporters from the operation of the Bill. CAST Lr.;;EACIII of ;eruct to the chime,. Iron the ground that the Muse would be, by such enactment, recognising a ho4y new to ohs:heaths. Mr. TIERNEVzsid he ei evil bare no objevlon limit the uutatter of vi . :4rtr:s a three or fear at eztlt meeting. Lord CASTLERF.AG7I tl.e Magistrates might, if they pleased, admit revar:ere. Mr. TIERNEY sail is c erident the Noble Lord objected to the princip:e of reparting. .• Imrd CASTLEREAtIif repeat'd that the Magistrbtea had a discretionary power to admit reporters. Mr. TI P.lt NET observed, that the apprehension of be ing charred with felony would probably prevent reporters train making the ila:.•.gcrous experitnest of abiding by a Magistrates nil!. Me,W.SMITII raid. that if reporters were admitted by connivance, it milli be easily irnagiaesi what repaesars would be admit . e.l, and what refused adealtaism, the power of the Mag;strateeirelng aintreskesary. Mr. Alderman WAITIIMAN said, the osly way of getting correct rerorts was be authorising sea of 'A valon. who were aenistorned to that employment. se ' attend. Mr. J. P. GP. ANT stt.ted, :he Magistrates were pea vented be the .t:t 1.-om permitting reporters to attend. The clause wls negatived without a division. Mr. HUM" ili•n IzIOVCII a modified elause t giving the rejsort-rs a ri ch to attend public meeting, after a not:ceo of 24 holm to the . .lagistrater. A division took place upon this claw, when the now bars were— For the elan :e Against it Majority . 174 On oar return to the Gallery, Mr. HUTCHINSON was on his legs, endeavouring to prove that there was no circumstance to justify the extension of the Bill up Ireland. He rested chiefly on the statement which the Minister had made in the commeneemen . of the :• - e.sioe, by which the complete tranquillity of Ireland was admitted. He concluded by moving, that Ireland be exempted from the operation of the Bill. Mr. PLCNKET sail a few words in reply to the ob servations of the Mon. and Gallant Member (Mr. Hutch- Leeson), and stated, that the extension of the Bill to low land was grounded upon the nature of the nil to be re pressed. A system of intimidation was diffuaiag itself through the empire; and although Ireland was by se mains a timid money. yet it was better to ward off the evil by preventioa, than be obliged to follow it by punishment. Mr. R. MARTIN spoke against the motion, but em called to order by the Speaker. Mr. TIERNEY supported the vsetiert. and invested to be informed why this measure Awed be extended to Ireland any more than those which were resented to in lor Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the mischief to be checked at the present period was mach more dangerous and systematic than that of 1817. and where it hail net reached, it was yet necessary to show the deterniinatin of Parliament by wholesome uteasorisof prerantion. 13;101.70HAM observed, that every crisis was sill to be more alarming than all which had preceded it. The ;lion. and Learned Member then 'facetiously re marked upon the facts wilielt had been stated in supped of the ex.stence of a great ronspiracy in 1817, when** Tower was to hay, bee.t sarnmoned; when a maguias of powder was provided—when bullets were collative is the foot of an old storking—and when the bridges were to be attacked ard demolished by a conple of lathe, . coachmen. He concludcd by giving his hearty soma to the motion. L The House then dirtied, when there appeared For Mr. Hutchinson's notion . . Against it Majority for extending the Bill to Ire'.-n I A Hon. Member, whose name we conl.l not lers• moved that the werd copyholder should l7e included 11 the Bill on the same footing as freeholders, which , war agreed to. Mr. .1. P. GRANT moved an araeadgetat, 014E 0 negatived without a division.