The National Register. — London, England, 1819-12-19 00:00:00

412 Slmptria! Varlianunt. --4IP NOUSE OF LORDS. lIONDAY. DEC. 13 Mr. BROGD KN. and several Members t rota the Commons. rsttehtup the Malt Duty Ball. which was read the first time. - - - - - TRAVERSE. BILL. The LORD CHANCELLOR rose on the Order of the Day Sir the third reading of his Dill to prevent delay in the adminis• oration ofjustise in ex-officio information; and indictments.— The Noble aad Learned Lord said be had procured a clause to answer the object of the Noble Loyd (Holland), and he certainly was desirous of making it satisfactory. The operation of the clause he purposed to add was this:—after an informatiou ha* been pending one year, it shall be lawful for the defendant to give twcnty days notice to the Attorney-General that he will apply to the Court for an order to press him to bring on the trial, taie Court is to have the power to make such order.) and if the Attorney General dose not bring en the trial, the Court can enter judgment of nos Fes, and prevent the defendant being put Ito expellee. Lord HOLLAND did not rime to make any objection to the slaws introduced by the learned and noble Lord ; on the con trary. the clause would be a great improvement in the Act of Parliament. and he gave his support to the bil:. 'Piths clause wasthen added, the bill read a third time and past-4. COMPLAINT OF MISTATEMENT. Earl GROSVENOR mss to complain to the House of a misustenwnt. which heconsidered • personal attack. "No man {said die Noble Earl) would afford stronger support to the prac tice of reporting the debates of this House than myself. I should sot mats complaint of misrepresentation, although I have been mere than once misrepresented in a gross and scandalous manner in the same Paper. if it related to political argument: but the subject I allude to is a misrepresentation of a personal natitre, aid I cannot mar it to pass, more particularly as the Right Rev. Prelate, whom it is said I opposes!, was not in the House to hear *bat I really did say. I allude to an E Paper, 77re Co r sier, which circulates in the country. In the port of a recent debate I am made to refiect on the Bight Rev. Prelate the Bishop el London. If there ever was aWe of misrepresentation, it is that. Tout Lordships. lam sure, will recollect, I went out el my way to speak with respect of that Right Rev. Prelate, and avoid personality. Ido feel anxious. as udiespresentadons of this character are abroad, to make thia complaint. 1 will not amble your lordships further on this sake& at present." The Noble Earl then adverted to a motion he had to make for a Re Sim of all Oilices held in reversion within given data, and con eluded by moving (or the same.—The motion was agreed to. Adjourned. TUESDAY, DEC. 14 SEDMOUS MEF t TINGS 1111.1. The Soditlous Meetings Prevention Bill was brought up from the Commons. by Mr. Wallace and other members. Tue F.larl of LIVERPOOL moved the first reading of the Bill. It was accordingly read the first dine. The Noble Earl Men moved it to be printed, and fixed the second reading. for Thursday. Lord HOLLAND observed. that short notice was given of the second reading, and at the same time he should not oppose the arrangement, provided full time was given for going into Committee. The Earle( LIVE/Irmo!. said, he understood the BiU would be the subject of debate on Friday, upon the order fur goin,, into Committax. If the Noble Lords on the other side tho )Huse did not feel themselves in a condition on Friday to go into Comm./dee upon the Bill, further consideration of it might be deferred to Monday The Marquis of LANSHOW),IE did not rise to object tothe proposed proceeding. He felt that the House ought to decide upon the measure without delay. Whatever difference of opinion might prevail respecting the provisions of the Bill, he would Omit, if it was necessary at all, it ought to be passed immediately. If it could he debated on Monday, the Noble Marquis would not abject to the arrangement. The Bill was ordered to be printed. The Malt Duty Bill was read a second time.—Adjoiuned. WEDNESDAY. DEC. I. The Earl of TllA'.;irire;enierl;Peiction from the Ma or and C-orporatiun a Rochester. against the Bills now Parliament fur itupusing restriction, on the people. The Pori 'lnn was read. and ordered to he ion the table. The Duke in DEV(INSII IRE presented a Petition from an indirkeial in the tOAn Sligo, praying the House to nvie souse legislative enactment with a view to procure additional security trom the tvallzeturb toLs in that vicinity. The Petition waa nth! on the table. The flotote went into a Conunittee en the Malt Duty Bill, k which the resolutions were agreed to, and the sepal ordered to be received to-morrow. Tavammv Dec. IL _ _ The Altai Ditty Lilt wan read a thinl time and passed. SEDITIOUS MEETINGS BILL. On the motion of Viscount SIDMOUTH the Bill to prevent Seditious Alt cting. •.ts read the second time. committed for to• morrow, and thelloutte?•tinunoned on the occasion.—Ailj. 11Ol...e: OF LORDS. EIILEPAY, DEC. ARMS SEIZURE RILL. Viscount SlDAirillif 4zoo ---- ved,thaith;renentlinents made by the Coin...ions in the Anne Seizure Bill be agreed to. After some diacasioh, the 'amendments were taken into con. aids ratio surd being read. the House agreed to them. A Message a i then oniered tole scat to the Cumulous, to ampule at that haute :hut the I.orda had agreed to their ameta:uients. SEDITIOUS ME E:TINOS' SILL. Viscount SHIMOr CH rase to move this Lo!l should be 'referred to the consideration of a Cammittee.--Notwithstanding the meaour‘s then 11 fur meeting the difficulties or the countri, was Oa hOililed the House wadi, be of opiniiiti that tory bad out.; lode to cheek the evil, if a 1.1 a; i , l,e that before t:.e House um., out paused. An tndeavour had been made to make one to the deana.: privileges of Englishmen an Instrument for the t:estrnetion of pubtic rights. If tit: Lords approved of vie prig: epic ut time Hill, the first questiou would be, whether the laws iu force were :Ancient to prevent tuniultuus meeting ~ tor whether sonic tow legislative measure was not tiecessaiy t The law, as it stunt!, did not prevent siintilta.•tous meetings. The Noble Viscount adverted to the nexstity sonic time hack, or checking the meetings in Copenhagen Fields, and observed, that the Lords would do well, looking to the disorder Mulch meetings, to decide quickly whether it ought to be a general or a temporary trueicure. The country be had no doubt, hotwitlittanding .tsdifficultit, would be relitvad lean danger by the energie, of earliament. The Noble Vi.lollt concluded by moving Uldt tilt . liaise go into a Committee on the Hill. The Earl La CARNAiiVON %as teady to admit they could nut al« a) s apply long established laws to new exigencies. Fruit' th p ritia of our ilevolution, the country had so chanted Mach/ratter. ti It new and great constitithoratl laws might be neteiwary. ...y were, Weever, .ailled to adopt new laws of a dangerous at ens boa, withoto any ground foe departure twat the casino...to Les of 12,e co.istitution. 'l'he Noble Lord felt it was ne.xwary to t Vl.ey view no natttict the operation of Mt bill to •'Muria p.nical tnah, tiVe ykai.—lt was a measure wily to be endured for a short v . eroJ. lie tarn deprecated the improper litterittet nee of tua o uitrates in county Miteetingi, as tending to deprive the people of their fair coaatitutiosal right of calling p Waiit messages The whole marasaey at the coast; was THE NATIONAL REGISTER._ nominated by the Lord Chancellor and Lords Ligament. It every Lord Chancellor would he like the present Lord Chancellor the country would have little to fear; but Chancellors, Lords Lieutenant. and Magistrates, would be found with party feelings that would ruin those establishments the Noble Viscount mu anxious to observe. The Noble Karl considered the power given to the magistrates a amp inroad on the rights and liberties of the people. He expressed a sincere hope that measures of this character would have the shortest duration. He could never consent to let the Bill exist longer than two years at utmost. The Noble Earl expressed his sadsfection at the introduction of a measure in the other House for a practical Reform in the abuses of repre sentation. He had never, however, believed that the distresses of the country arose out of errors in either branch of the Consti tution, nor did he suppose those distresses could be prevented by any Reform human wisdom could adopt. They had been occasioned by war into which the people of England in 1793 were too anxious to engage. The Noble Earl concluded by going, that it was his intention to move in the Committee, that the duration of the Bill be limited to two years. Lord KING objected to the principle of the Bill, on the ground that it was part of a system of coercion, not justified by necessity. Adverting to the state of the country, he regretted ' that no enquiry had beat allowed, with respect to the trans -1 action.lat 'Manehester. It was only to be accounted for by supposing that ministers would not get in judgment upon themselves.. The greatest danger they had to apprehend pro ceeded from the determined spirit of government, and the adoption of coercive manures. Lord HOLLAND said he felt ea much repugnance to the present Bill, that he could not leave the House, notwithstanding ** the overwhelming majority" with which it would, no doubt, be carried, without delivering his sentiments in a few words. He did not intend to divide the House, and should noie.ve the root e detailed expression ef his sentiments to a future occasion. He considered this Bill as an unconstiunionsi, hellish, and mischie vous measure t unconstitutional, because it went to linter away the inherent right of Englishmen to meet and express their opinion and to make the exercise of that right a crime punish able in the most ignominious manner —6O6A, became it did not go to prevent tumultuous meetings unless they met for discussion... he would shoo when he came to consider the question more minutely ; and therefore it did not prevent the evils it profaned to desssoy—and mischievous, because for the reaming stated by his Noble Friend it worth' convert open tumult into secret conspiracy. and would substitute for clamour and nonsene the dagger tithe assassin. (Hear, hear.) In orinclusitin his Leedship said, be should vote against going into the Committee. The question was then put for going into the Committee on Monday next, which wag tarried in the affirmative without a division. The question was next put on the instruction to the Committee, moved by the Elul of Carnarroth for limiting the Bill to the hat orJuly thew ; on this a division was dmanded and took Owe. The numbers were-- Contents en I Non-Contents 57 Proxies 18-3 n I Proxies 7tl-135 Majority 97. The house adjourned at two o'clock. SATURDAY, DEC. 18.. This day the Lords being met, the Commons were summoned to attend, when a Commission was read, appointing the Arch. oi,hop of Canterbury the Lord Chancellor, and Lord Harrowby, Commissioners,. for the purpose of giving the ltoyal Assent to .* An Act tiir continuing to lit, Maj.aty certain duties on malt, sugar, and Anal; in Great Britain, and on pensions, aloes, and personal estates in England. for the sesta,: of the year 1880; and also " An Act to authorize Justices of the Peace in certain disturbed counties to seise and tietain antis collected or kept for purposes dangerous to the public peace, to continue until the 45th day of Ivlatch,. till' Arta which the Howe adlatused. to Monday. MOUSE OF COMMON& MONDAY. DEC. 13. BREACH OF PHIVLLEGE. Mr. COURTENCif moved the Order of the Day Aar the culling of Mr. Stodart bottle Bar. Mr. ELLICI; sail, be would save the trouble of the Honer, by stating, that John Cam Hoblionse, a friend of his, was the author of the pamphlet, part of which hail been romplained of; that gentleman, he was instructed to say, would readily attend the House. Mr. COLTRTENAY thought the printer ought to be Robyn StoJo was then The pamphlet having been Moran to him, he inhl he publkhed it, anti added, that it was written by John Cam Hohliouhe. Mr. cotativk Y then tontrt-.1, that the printer:be thaeharged, and tact .t.an Cain liuldsuuse do attend tu- IlinarOVl. Mr. ELLIcr. said, Mr. IL was 0,11 of town, on account of the Lidtspii ifiou of his father but lie would *until o. 1111 l now, if legwted. Mr. 'TIERNEY asked, for what purpose was Mr. Hob house in attend? (Neer, hear.) The SPEAKER observed, that the author was ascer tained. there was no occasion to order the attendance of the particular individual; it was not essential to any ulte ✓ior proceeding that might lie contemplated. Mr. LOU KTENA Y again rose, and proceeded to read from a report en their privileges, that those ptivileges were part of the I.tw of Parliament, that the law I/1 Par• fitment WWI part of the law of the Lind, and that it was essential to 'tippers them as the fundamental protection act Pai 1 unrnt and the People. Ile therefore tell warranted in par • ' 7 this coarse. lie deemed it more correct than thae of a pcosecntion by the homey-Gems:sal. It was nut 4 doubtful question, it was a contempt of the House ; and lie therefore thoeslit that the House ought to louvred to commitment for sncli contempt. He could make allow asters tor irritated ft clings, or hasty prodoctiosis; he could make apotottics for the crude pioductious of the daily Journalist, but lie Timid not oil( such e%ruse fer tile it, liberate slander and 10141 cont. -il in this pant- Ode , . He roue:R.lrd with moving, that ,be pamphlet runLtincd a scandalous libel on die noose, and that ua it was ralrelatcgl to .0114ine the run i iie h o sell of violence attains, the Legislature, and particularly this House, and was their fore a high bras- lief the privilege and constitu tion of this House. lire trralution !sting put, the ayes were loud, Aral Sir F. Burdett said " Nu!" its a distinct tutic.—Mutiusi ugra,:d wive, Tat Mr. Ilubhoute be committed to Ncwgatc for sada oftener. Mr. ELLICE observed, that feeling what WWI likely td be the rebult, nib, baring got,t friettd•lstp fur t Mr. Hqbllloll-V, IC 114 , 1 bkliiiCti the italeritte , :tale step i t) be t•kett,a, hr 114dIrptlitti it..tt deers wii• no pi.ter to Jr. li. eX4.:I pt in a rocisu wIGI it convirted M►. observed, th.it Ibe fir.t step must be to order Kr. H. to be token into the custody cal the nerjeaut at Arms, ihra. own officer. Ttie SPEAKER sant, that there tome instances *lsere the order had been enforced as moved; and bis warrant* DEC. 10 would be, first to take Mr. H. Ist° custody, then to cons,' that individual to Newest*. Mr. Alderman WOOD lamented to say that the state of the primes was inch a► to pi eclude the idea of sending an inilividnet of Mr. H's reap. ekbility there I but at the tame lime there were means of making better srrangc menus within what was celled Newaine. (Hear.) Sir V. IfiIIYIRDETT said, tliit WAS a very hard cage against Mr. Hulihunve. He would not di fend gross lan. gate; but he denied that it was suceentible of ttle inference charged that of isciting tim exercise of lbw° force. Lord CRSTLEREAGH rose to order—the question of libel had liter disposed of. Mr. BROUGHAM agreed in this, but sal& A e whole question might be reviened. Sir F. BURDEIT replied, that lie certainly had in• tended to go into the yeestion of libel, but he was to plead in mitigation it seenscd. He should refer to the Atoning; Post. _ _ Mr. - WYNNE rose to order. lie was against a NeWs. paper being read there, besides, was one breach of privilege to be urged as jaatitication of another Sir P. uultDerr knew nut wbere he bad been dis orderly. He darted that there was any breach of pre. volege—it wa• only constructively so. He must refer to the : lll°,l , lll,g PM. - - Mr. tiIiOUGHIAM defended the Hon. Rarooet, and was about to show what had twin done with impunity. If newspapers were nut to be read, why were pamphlets! k Hear.)—Ths Hun. Member Tea pages of this pamphlet, brit embeds gut up then and theilliMed " order, order, dowse with your pamphlets. The aPEAKi.R ouserverl, that the qnestion of libel was di•pused sof, but it wits open to weak m ratrunation, and then refer to other 11141 tkil. lie certainly remold not see what distinction there could be between pamphlets and newspaper Hear, hear 9-11utaer worse matters wet*, introduced iu ilins'iation of the case, and then proved really to be inure severe ' Members were hound to prefer complaints. He hoped Members would not make an injudicious use of the freedom of debate and the prier. lilies extruded to them. Sir V. liteltDErl said he should 1110%, abandon that course which lie bad intended to purists ; brit when the question as to sending to Newgate came before the Hums he should Mere trouble the Home. Strastors were then ordered t• withdraw fur a division. be numbers weri• : Fur the motion.. ...... • • • • Fur the amendment W. Majority for the commitment to Srwgate 133 The aliment 'vault accordittgly. Mr. BARNL.I' I p.esesited a Petition from Rochester Stiloiossa Meeting. Mr. CALVERT piebtaled a Petition frosts Southwark aaiu , t the Nrw Some atowutera ought to be made fur the slit•ile.p.rn tot troth. all who complatettl ought nut to lie ceded Ka.lirel Row luers. . . sor It. It ILAON sea, this Pc tanai mooned the atten- Ilian tit the Hons He trit•ted the 11111 would not pa l s. Hr might nut again addrr ss the House dui Inc the person census& ; but whatever 'nigh( be liar penalty, he oeitild honour ill lit• •.:aistat visits. Dim wgP get euoxOlalioa mat the Omit.* *Melt errs furlong woe., sir gait all cadie, that the inward y of the pairs nuann we • gamins's. e against the duratiots of the system.. Prtiro.oortierett to he MA the table. The Misdemeanour Bill was read a C. it time, an d or dered to be lra.l a socood time on %% Lord CAs I LEXEAGH inured the third leading of the Sedition. Meein,gi Pieberstioa Wt. Lord A. HAMILL:ON suppoateo the Bill, which he dill with pain and regret, aunt be dial so ma &rt.. The ~,.is ill P g had been maturitoi-ly 46110 rd to tit* injury of others, and so as to uring the s;ht itself hate quet.ta Mr. J. WAIL lON proposed a clams UP elfeet of authorising the attendance of reporters to 114 . % ~qlCif at public meetings, although strangers to the plus. their sending in their "antes to. the magistrate 11 hour* It mie the' meeting. Lord CASTLEREAGH objected to the introdut tins of reporters as al distinct body recognized in our legua ohm, and binned w ith particular privileges. If stranger* to the county, pariehoor district, the irdiabitauts of which respect ively c ttttt oused the used ing. he saw au reason for considcrim them in any other light that. strangers by any clause as Eie bill The magistrates may grant them fa. 11. t les of admission if they saw no objections it was true as hail broil oat. d lay WI II unotirmile Member, that the reports 01 the pro. ceeoings 01 public snarl lugs an the public journal. had annietimcz wariird the (vaulty of its dam;er ; hat it was at the saute time not to be dewed. that the danger bad often been increased lay alarming and fallacious reports. Ile was unwilling to allow this elas• of OClrs4lll9 any rights by this rat si Stich they d.d not previously pions.; and. thus t 0 give a pretence for the mina t • of strangess. Mr. TIERNEY said, that the number miaht be limited to three or fuer, and 111118 It part of the Noble Lord's objer. tins iSigki be obviated ; but the Noble Lotd objected 4 to the peraelplr of admit •ng reporters: ultourtl cr. ( NO, WO Lord I said, be net. h • Objected ts the claim of a right. A magistrate, who raw no reasua for excluding Them. night grant t lam facilities ofadmialon. Mr. 'I'I PAN EY did not see how a niug.rtrate, %dhoti( some authority in the act, could authorize the ante admire of straisg,er.. Lord C A STL Lit EA GI I said, the magistrates rould intro duce their taut. talkers and asiustants, though strangers, and if they clause they 'Di n h' bring its tarn reporters among them. Mr. Alderman W :turn Numi said, the reasou which the Noble Lord opposite (Castlereagh) had given Sro 11:r exclu sion of reporters, was, on his is for tiara ladmioami. The Noble laird land seated, that fal lacious repeals h.al been propagated, and produced Olinger. A. some tripoli. must always n o ata wad, e null ,1 wit lie better to :Moot I quarts from respectable newwaper., lobo a ere mom of *Javelin.. airs had characters at stake, and would hr careful to amid misrepre email 000 0 thaa allow statements to get halo Cifflgul lt.. medium of Mr. J. P. Lit A S T.—The atagii rate cmad nail connive at reporters wired strastAerr wire Or.k.ed tat All. HIJm E cootes.ded, that by the lull I, lhr ruiwrler ray ilding a wetting w amid incur the rm. It. 01 it Aylmer, wor/tie mud tinen•oinne 0,1, altar I .otolti tie ithig•slir.ste ;nowt losu against the Laurin. He (Mr. Horne) would propose a • iiviating the objection td a elatuer under diet 11 sign, • :.,fll a right Its *Read, while it at the mu* tame the revuriems