The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-07-01 00:00:00

thing of *Lathier paid, had thrown out insinuations which went to shake the confidence of his Majesty's sub jects in the administration of justice in this country-erl (Hear, hear.)—As to the motion th e n before the H o p, it referred not to him individually ; but to every otheel Chancellor who should succeed him; and be must my, that unless a great change took place in the course of pr ant ati the Courts of Scotland.= regulation that lie iiihld snake would be 'diesel towards getting rid of the arrest of business before that House. It_ was the happlaiees of this count r y that it possessed a perfect sys tem of law and justice ; so melt so, as wee to he tolualled by say other conntey in the world. And until a similar system-exieteil in Scotland no effectual remedy for the inconveniences complained of could be brought about.— Here his Lordship described the forms of the proceedings is the Scotch Courts, which were so *confused andlm perfeot, that parties didnot know tali their causes 'were divided' and they came before the Heuer to kno, why they were. -The Bill then beforelA ili ouse Went to pro . vide atainst that g r e a t incorivenieriCe. He thou g ht the trials by Jury should be exte n d e d in &Orland, mast all facts.enieht be ascertained. This was a thing which the Jadges of Scotland never did in a eatisfactoty man ner. He thought there ought to be a Court of Error in Scotland. .By that mesas, when an lapped wall brought to thee House, their Lordaltins would hare the opinions of all But Judges in Scotland upon the care. Re bad ofteh bees abused at than bar for decisions, which were afterwards acknowledged to be right by the verp parties who had towed faulfwithtilem. He teas Dot of opinion that all this business of:appeals ought to be takes away from the House of Lords. While practising at the bar. he had been employed in most of the *etch stymy& ; he bad been in the habit oratieedine to them fooforty years. an ! no ono could ever tharhint Wittrwatft of attention to those elitism— (Heat', h im.) He 'fetid ask their Lordships then, whether they could adopt a better plan • than that which had by the Law and Constitution of the realm been the immemorial practice ? As to the Court of Chamois., 'he had another observation to attire. lt' was impossible for the Chancellor to do his ditty to the country, if he att tided oaly three days a week in that Court, and he asked whether a better Plan than that odw recommended, would be devised ? It bad heen said, that the ditties of the Chancellor and Speaker in the. House of Lords might be divided. TO thisite wotild observe, that he never - heard any mini is the profession "speak con, this subject. who did raosieprawaie the idea of 'a separa tion of these two offices.. Besides it would net he fit to take from theChaneellor certain parts of the duties be had hitherto been In flit habit of. perfortning in that House. 'The question of Id wits shoul.l never %e &ken from the Chancellor, fur it W3s a jurisdiction which re quired to be administer e d in law and eouity, bad could not be properly exercised is any other Coarte-s- Neither should bankruptcy cases be taken from the Chao- Cello, . Earl GROSVENOR.said, that if such in particular cases bad to delers inohe Court of Chancery, it * as a most tf asiate circumstance for a ll th e pa r ti es w h o went into, saloon. . ' . The Rawl of AIiEROREN conuletneed the whole sys tem of site law which bast caused so mucli•delay and ex penme to *Mows. . Thei law of Scotland warn fousdell en that of the most ciritized• country in site wall; and to appeal from that law to an English Tribunal, was like 'appealing to the lawof a foreign country. Ha was tern s that the people of Scotland did not wish to have ao id. ,terations made i it those laws, and even from the adopting .E 4 the trial by Jury. he did not'expect that any benefit whatever wodlul arise. There was a Jury Court already established in Seotland,and the people had such a pee tulicdalgitiest it, that they generally preferred any other • eurt before in If the present plan wer e adopted, , it would increase rather than di inioish the number of op- , peals. The only remedy for this evil, was the removal . of the opitillant jurisdiction from the [louse of Lords, as "far as Sentland was concerned, and the establishment of a tribtioal in that .country, ethic,' shouid possess all the p.mw&s with which the law could invest if for tke due ad ministration of justice ; but the Noble and Leaked Lord bad obfected to this on constitutional grounds. Now, }leder:lei that this plan could he objected to on any such grounds, for the claim of right did not admit the neces si'y of appeal, unless in rase of injustice or oppression.— The privilege of appeal was intended only as a check in essss of corruption, and then the Judges were liable to • be deprived of their seats or estates. Of the right of ap p of, the Act of Union did not say one word, and there tote it remained as before. There was nothing in the • cid!ni of right, as far as it regarded appeals concerning erroneous jndgments. These were to be determined in What's's o ithin Scotland, and no appeal to be made to-the Hutiso 4 of Lords, but in cases of injustice or op , prow*. . T,here was nothing in the Act of Union which glaviScoftind the right of appeal, and, therefore, that .riglat might be Constitutionally transferred else where. Lord SIELVILLE commenced addressing the House, when— Lord ELLENEVIROUGH rose and said that all many • Noble Lon is were likely to- aleliver their sentiments, in cecsequence of what had fallen from the Noble Lord on the Wooisaek, and the discussion would, therefore, in all possibility last to a.late hour, be would snggest the propriety of adjourning the debate. Lord LIVERPOOL said the debate might continue for some time, and if it were not over within a' reason able hone, he could not object to an adjournment. Lord MELVILLE again rose. He said that it should - now be considered bow were they to get rid of the ap peals before the House. These must be beard and ad hudged immediately, whatever plan was to be adopted ereafter. lie denied that the plan now proposed would remodel the constitution of the House, because it was in his Majesty'. power at any time to put the. Seals in com mission, or appoint a Lord Keeper. As to the compulso ry those, he was anxious that it should be adopted. He could not airree with the Noble Lord who had just sat down, that Scotland bad not the right of appeal. That S -called haul the right of appeal was certain. This was rowed by the practice up to this day. It was- said that th,i • plan would not sneered, because the people of Scot-, id" 11 did not like it; but this lie denied. The people of. See'luind were. on the contrary, convinced pf the benefits derived from thil ri,,tht, for however high his opinion of the Judges of Scotland was, be should be sorry to see there was no appeal to their judgments. It was even the opinion of the Scotch Ban that the low of Scotlami, so fir from bring deteriorated by an appeal to the house of Lords, was confirmed and improved. It was contented, the object of tbe resolution was to assimilate the law of Scotland to the law of Eneland ; their Lordships, if they' adopted ir, would be guilty, not only of a gross derelic tion of their duty, but a violation of their oaths. The only object of appeals wrist keep the Judges to their duty, and confiue their deCisions within the law of Scot land ; and should they continue ta be decided with the saute jus. ire am heretofore, they will not fail to give ge ' • nerel satisfaetion to-the people of Scotland. A good de .1 was said of the ineffiehuney of a law giving the right of appeal to a .lnage is Ito might or might not be ac: (painted with the laws ; bust the same system has gone on for a century, and the jurisdiction has been always ex ercised witls satisfet lion tat tire people of Sco•laal. This system, he called upon theft Lordships not to relinquish, hot hi\ at the same time, admitted, that it was their duty . to put it on the hest footing. But the difficulty was in' discovering which was the best? !flute Noble and Learn ed "Lord on the woolsack could confine Isis attention here, rot 'neglect the Coon of I 'haneery, that would, no doubt, he the best remedy fur the evil ; bat since that was itnpossible. the next host plan in his opinion was that proposed by the resolution. It was the slaty afTheir THE _STA Lerdebips to. tae their hoot tgadeaveurs togreserve Which ha noW• lasted a eatery, and tar which thelpeo-1 pie of.Setstland had ha lidleporable claim. . Lofd HOLLAND said, that thtiailt be did not dkjeiv" .to-the Hill, be objected to the resolution growing out. of 1t 'ks directly apposed lb it, both as it related to the Courts below, and the Constitittion of that Honse.— The resolution, if adopted, would take away frdat Hie people of Scotland the right 'whieL they possessed of appeal to the int law authority in england, end would also infringe the constitution of their Lordships' House. The Noble and Learned Lord had imputed motives to them in the discharge of their dots Whirb they did not deserve. The Noble.and Learned I,owl's mo ment reminded him of a not very unusual metaphor : Dishes are served up. perhaps for•theit Lordships: they are not of the best description t they call up on the cook to account why they were not better.-- The rook sass." 1 did notsay they ware good, but can you get better ones?" This wis the way this resolution was dished up from the Report of the Cementite. it wu said the present plan Was not twilit* the Conatitdthel of the Hoes*, because the King might eppoint .a Speaker, though not a Member of the House. who would be authoviiied leash spout their Lordships for their opinions, hat thirwas point ing out the Inconsistent and aticonalciall part of the ftoni teflon for imitation. But thou he could rul e speak es the servant of the House, and not deliver his opialue as guide to theirLordahips. He denied thatjustieoWas in Illy instance denied to Scotland. The evils were eisurheretiout in that House. lie feared that the practice of the Inflorlor Comets threw more impediments to the way of jostler/ than 1 the right of Appeal to the highest tribunal ha the country.— Te Judges of Scotland looked upon the tight of Appeal as the great bulwark of their laws, betaken they blew that all eletisloos were free from local prejudice and party cabals. The Mot& did not disapprove of the reseal system, and they we, acknowledged to be a people who were, set In goisevid liwoorant of Mete lateness.- Theo • whS alter. It attire an when we could add to their approve?. 'jiffies the test of experience? They would stake the codettce of the people in the justice of the country, If tney told them they give them an article inferior to 'that which they possessed themselves, They were now about tusking an lion on the copal - Helios of the House, which it en tailer time would be CalledJatobinical Or Redieal - , It was , not aeteesar • that the Speaker should be a Member of their Lordships' once: lie may be • man without *AY highls gel threat:tee or much petsonal.respect, and in the discharge of hit duties mil resemble what Shakspeare my. of Jostler Siollute i—;".1111 thet by observing of him became silly justices, end be ht eottvers:ng with thko • bemuse. a very silly-like justice-like serving•oian." Would It he acting with justice to the people of Scotland, who had surrendered their Parliament and the right of Appeal to England. now to deprive them of the advantage of basing recousap to the first judicial tribunal in the empire? This right pros eel-, drafty implied in the 19 , h article of the Union.. which says 1 , " There shall be no appeal from the Courts of lilo_ofgaskto the Court of King's Bench. or any other Curt in teia ster Hall." This showed that they admitteCthe right of Appeal to the highest tribunal, but took ears to guard against it to any of the inferior Courts. Would thee the people of Scotland be satisfied with the decision oleo** in• ferior Law Meter, when they knew, they were entitled to have the opinion of the first taw authority in the country? if it were necessary to make an innovation, It would, In his Lordship's opinion, he prudent to have the consent of all. the Members of the Legislature. He would not object that a Vice Speaker should be elected, provided he were a 1 Member of their Lordships' House, to which he was sure his Majesty. in his benignity would not refuse to give his assent. If their Lordships wished to secure the dignity of the House they would at all events limit the election to one of their own Members. The House, the law, the country, and - the administration of justice would softer deeply if the Chancellor sod his authority in that House were separated : and yet this would virtually hays the effect of the present. resolution. 11. would not shandon.his duty. and ho hayed their Lordships. inner:iced by party views, would consider the question in its merits, and give their cotes in the SMe spirit he did. r r Lord LIVESPOOL here rose and said that as It was now drawing to a late hour, and as many Noble I.ords neat Alva wished to deliver their opinions upon this subject, it woad be batter to adjourn the debate till to-morrow. The House adjourned at nine o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. JAMES presented& Petition from certain inhabitants of the parish of St. Pancras, cmplaining of the borough system. and praying for a radical reform in the representa• tten.—Laid on the table. General PIIIPPS presented a Petition from the ship-own ers of Scarborough against the Reciprocity of !Mies' Bill. —Ladd on the table. _ . . Mr. CURTER; gave notice that he would, in the course of next Session, Introduce a Bill for repealing the law which places distinctive marks on hop sacks. Mr. A. BARING presented a Petition from au individual named Edmund Townsend, complaining of the operation of the Bankrupt Laws. Mr. J. SMITH trick that opportunity to express his re gret that the measure respecting the alteration of those laws, which was before the House, was not likely to be completed this Session. Lord A. HAMILTON expressed his opinion that some al teration was necessary. The Petition was ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed. Mr. S. WORTLEY presented a Petion from the ship owners of Whitby. in the county of York, against the Reci procity of Duties' Bill—Laid on the table. SALE Ole G A E BILL. Mr. S. WORTLEY moved the Order: e f the Day for the further consideration of the Report on this Bill, for the pur pose of postponing it. The lion. Member said he should postpone the subject till the next Session. •He wished, how ever, to take this opportunity of stating that his object was to giveto each individual the right to kill game on his own estate. Yet, at the same time, he desired that there should be certain checks provided by the Legislature respecting the sale of game. After a few words from Mr. R. COL.BORNE, Colonel DAVIES, and Mr. TENNYSON, the motion was agreed to, and the Report was ordered to be taken into further con- sideration that day three months. Mr. P. MOORE presented a Petition from the ribbon o: Coventry, praying for a repeal of the Spital- Acts.—Laid on the table. Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW gave notice, that early in the next SRllliOll he would introduce a Biti for the repeal of the Usury Laws. Mr. 11. G. BENNET expressed his hope that the Hon. and Leaned Member would introduce the Bill at as early a period as possible. Mr. HUME presented a Petition from an individual named Milford. praying for an inquiry into the state of private madhouses. Tne Petitioner stated that he h had access to a nue of these establishments, and had pub lished a book, exposing the mal-practices that prevailed in them. Mr. HOIMOUSE supported the prayer of the Petition. Mr. BROIJOrIAki bore testimony to the proper conduct Of Dr. Warburton, in theilischerge of his duties, at the head of an establishment for insane persons. Ile did not by any means wish to close life doors against those petitions, but the House ought to receive the complaints of individuals with many grains. of allowance, and not give credit too lightly to such eases as tile present. Ile saw lately a state ment, professing to be an accounl of the horrors of mad ' houses —a statement which was a disiernce to the press of this country, and merited his must un ivaiiOel disapproba tion. Mr. Secretary PEEL said he could not consent to an in quiry with a view to an,tlisli private madhouses. Il e w as sure the statements alleging abuses in them were often tu l le and gonerall exaggerate i. Kook+ were often Ida into his own hands, containing lithographic drawings of persons tor tared by the keepers; but on inquiry he found that there was no truth in those representations. lie thonght that private madhouses, under proper regulations, very useful inctitu. don*, and would be preferred by many to the public chari table asylum'. Alr. 0. RENNET said he wished for inquiry, with a view to further regulations- lie saw the petitioner, and he knew from his own inquiries, that several of the facts scaled 4 0 t h e , book which was published by hint were.% ith o ut any 'wand ,. don in, truth. ny hoped Dr. Warbarton would take iamb steps to prowl& thripartles eptlcerao I in that publicalin kN. , for othrgwlse be could not with clean hinds coma bet** a Court of Inquiry. Mr. W. %YYNN held that s'verel exaggerated elatementa atme to hie Diva knowledire. Tae subject 'demanded Impe riously the attention of Parliament. On a former occasion Ma Howse sodt up to the dthei Roue of Paillasestailll for fluffier regulatiobs of those Houses ; but It, for some res ult*, another, was rrjeeted. Those private houses were %Maul, but the system of iospectioa already established was not sufficiently efficacious. The petition was then read, anti after a few words from Mr. !WISE and Mr. BROUGHAM, wet ordered to .be printed. SLAVERY. Petitions against Slavery were presented by Mr. HOH. HOUSE ((or Mr. Lambtou) from the Inhabitants of Ches. trr-le-street, in the comity of Durham, and by Mr. W. SMITH, from the inhabitants of Alton, near Southampton. —Laid ob the table. ASSESSED TAXES. Mr. HOBIROUSE presented a petition Dom the inhabi tants of the parish of St. Ann. Westminster, praying for a total repeal of the Assessed Taxes: He was aware that the Chancellor of the Exchequer could net for the present gofer that tat to he remitted, but be hoped he waled take It into his eonalderstion before the next Session of Parliament, and propose that among other taxes to be remitted. He had on a former night asked whether all short windows were not to ItseXemptirons tea, end he then understood from the lion. Secretary to thaTreesury that such was the Intention; bet he found since that only the street windows of the gimps were Dee; sad that ad back windows were still liable. One instance which be gave, was the shop of a hooter/Mein Charing-cross, to the three back windows of which the re- j mission was not extended. The CH %NCEI.LOtt of the EXCHEQUER was ander• stood to Bey he woul I inquire into the case.—The petition was then read. and ordered to be printed. I.6r4MILTON presented a petition from William Sepys, a atilmneyyreep, preying the House to rescue from misery thousands of helpless children, —l.ais the ratite. COMtIINATION LAWS. Mr. W. SMITH presented 6 petition from I.4oo.ionnwer men weevers and other persons of that description. Inhabi tants of Wyverton, in the county of Norfolk, praying for a repeal*of the Combination Laws.—Ordered to he orinted. The same Hon. Member presented i similar petitlon,sign rat by 6,730 at k wearers and other persons of respectability In the city bf Norwich. Mr.'P. MOORE said. those petitions were the result of the Bill, which he had brought into the Hoose. If the House were to sits few weeks longer, they would hive thousands of such petitions. To the people of Norwich he sent the first mug of his Bill thst was printed, and that petition 15 cards long was the consequence. His' Bill was of vast importance to Norwich, London, and m inufactnring towns. • He was sorry that the Hon. Slember fur Yorkshire was desirous that the Bill for the repeal of those Combination Laws should be postrned. His object in introducing that Bill tart° diminish the 'pone rates, and to get his Majesty's Ministers ten of difficulties in which they did not see their wig. They wished for time to consider the expetlieley of his Bill, and to take the sense of the country en it. The sense of the country was already known, and the discussion of the Bill in that House nii.fht be cdnelailiql in one day. If 'Ministers were not disposed to past theßill that Session, at least they ought to let it piss the • second reading, end then let it is *before a Counitiree op stairs, so as to be prepared to enact it inte a law next N..ssiod. • The petition was then read aail ordered to be printed. A petition was presenW from - the Ship-oWiirraof New castle-upon-Tyne, against the Reciprocity of Duties Bill. —Laid on the table. Sir•JANI ES MACINTOSH postponed. to a future day a question, of which he hid given notice, in consequeree of the absence of the Right lion. Secretary for the Foreign Department:—(llr. Cattning entvrech the House 'soon after.) *VOW!' :I IatIES BILL. Mr: KENNEDY moved the flt rid reading of this Bill'', Lord BINNING opposed it. Ile'objected to tie 4ng of Juries by ballot, which was one of, the .principles .of the Bill. He thought that poser should not be taken from the Judges, who had hitherto used it with so muck discretion. He did state substantially the objections he . 4sad to the Bill, and he would implore the House not to sanction the principle of so vile an innovation as it eon /tatned. He denied On be opposed all improvement in the condition of the Criminal Law in Scotland ; but the present was so serious an innovation, that he would de . etdedly vote aping it. Mr. A lIEBLROM BY ,said, as the Bill was already sufficiently discussed, he would not occupy the time of the House upon it at aay length. The power of peremp. tory challenge given by the Bill of last year, atfmrled the Wiest security against any evils arising front the system of ballot. He regretted that the Noble Lord did not state his particular objections. lie also re gretted that lie did not express the Caine objections to a ballot in the Committee. His propositions might then hare had a full and fair discussion, but lie was at present tun law, and let slip the opportunity which the Committee gore. He concluded by supporting the Bill. Mr. PEEL said, the real question was, whether the Bill was a wise experiment in altering the Criminal Laws of Scotland. Now, for his part, he was ready to admit that he did not approre of it; and he was certain that the Hon. mover would. before two Sessions, find that his views would be mistaken. He objected to the plan of alphabetical arrangement, es it would have the effect of lacing jurors of the same name on the panel in particu lar districts. There were many other objections to the Bill, which ought to make the Hon. Gentleman pause a little before be precipitated a Bill of so much import ance, affecting the lives and properties of aarliole nation. For these reasons he would oppose the third reading of the Bill. Sir J. MACINTOSH was 'surprised at the time and the mode of t: e Bight Hon. Gentleman's opposition.— There was no apprehension of any danger from party animosities, as local feuds had subsided altogether.— There was no dangerof putting , a number of people of the same name on the panel. The authority of the public prosecutor and his deputies might always be interposed in case of any apprehension of a partial Jury. The Noble- Lord should have stated his objections to a ballot in the Committee, and not have waited till the pre ent time, when the sanction of the House had been so often given to the principle. Mr. CANNING said, that it was too much to expect that because an Hon. Member had not opposed a certain part of the Bill in the Committee, that he was to be de- prived of all opportunity of doing soon the third reading.. So far as his memory went, the Noble Lord did oppose a ballot in the Committee, and on the second reading of the Bill professed the same opposition. M. KENNEDY briefly. replied. Mr. FEEL explained. Mr. FORBES said that he would support the Bill. The House then divided, ivhen there appeared—For the third reading. 60—Against it, 56—Majority, 4: The Bill was then read a third time and passed. (In one return to the gallery, we found the Home de. bating on the third rea.iing of the SCOTCIICo‘IiIISSARIES' BILL The LA/It ,111)VOCATE supported the Bill. He ex plained that the Bill superseded the whole of the Com missaries (•J3,in nmber), and transferred the whole of their ditties to the Sh-rilla and their Deputies. The givat'object of the dill was t.) save intense to those con rerned. On the question, that the Bill be re td a third time, Lunt A. HA MI LTON rose to express hire di.m.ent from this measure. His opposition. howester, militated not against its principle, hot the manner in which the go-bye was shoot to he given to the principle, even by those wale brought this nattamtre forward. . lie qoestioned the since vitt. oft inisters consenting at all to hack theprintiple of dot BA which was the dissolution of aanecessary otfi es. The Bill, he was sure, if it was its fate to pass this Ironic, Would be dispased of in another place as a predecessor otit bad been before—namely, that it would be thrown out by the Learned Lord's own coadjutorin office. If the Learned Lord had been sincere in his wishes to carry this Bill with effect, he would sot Lave waited till the third read ing to discuss it. It was quite impossible in the present state of the House (there were not 20 Itlemberspr,sent,) and the lateness of the Session, to do the subject justice. IThe Noble Lord then proceeded In state objections to the provisions of the Bill. It affected to be founded upon.tba Wrest of Commissioners appointed .17 years ago, but was not to fart conformable to it. The Report recomazend. ad, that no compensation should be given to offieers, but by this Bill provision was m.de for several. Some inferior offices nese also retained in the Courts which were transferred .to the Sheriffs-Depute, which ought le bare been abolished. Bat the great objection was, that so much power was delegated to the Judges of the Court or Session to make what regulations as to costs of proceedings which they pleased respecting the new Coady. This. he contended, the House °fight • to have taken into their own hands. Ile doubted, however, that snob a Bill as this would ever pass. The frequ-nt fail ures of siosiLr measures since 1501. bore testimony .to the indisposition of Ministers to consent to the aboli tion or ageless others. The Noble Lord was proceed ing with his objections in detail. but observing that the Members continued to leave the House, he wa r " I am sorry to be obliged to go on with this subject, which I can assure the trentlemen present is as p sinful to limas it appears to be irksolse to them. This beint the firsudiseussion upon it. however, I have a linty to perform. and in spite of the non-attendance of those who ought to be present. and the anmattenlion of those who are present, I shall en lie to go through with it.—(Laughing,) I sin afraid thwerh. that c. I get or. the Bourse will '..e left to yen and me. Sir (lilt g e mlike?), plaids will pet, however, d ter me, fur I shall at la.t have sus. --*Lc...rion, when I meet my ronstituents, of telling them that I urged 0., . newel' subkrt until ha.l driven nearly every Member out of the. ll.suse." (Laughing.) lie lamented that lie sal alt the °ppm., tnnity of stating his ohjoctien in a Committee. Its cu.ertained the strongest obieetion to the Bill in princi ple and detail, and he was sure that it would never pass to a full Maw of Commons. Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS said he regretted that the auttject before the House was not brooght under the conaideration of the House it an earlier period, fir it wan now some time since the Commiseittners of Inquiry int Courts of Justice in Seotlind had simile their deport.— lie also regretted that the Government did not more sr rionsly turn their atiestion to me:sures connected regalatiun of the administration of justice in Scotland. — After some further observations the Hoe. Almnber gave his support to the Gil. Mr. .KIN S ED) objected to severatclaases of the Bill; (meta those clauses transferred the duties of the 'COMMIS. snits to the Sheriffs. who were enabled to depote their power to their substitntes, who again were to do the tluty. and without granting them any tttW uit.mal retaannera tiers, and be could not allow this opportunity to pass without observing that these Gentlemen. meaning the Sheriff Substitutes of Scotland, were a verrrespectahle and useful body of men,-but very ill paid, and be hoped 'that independent of any additional labour, their eitnation would soon be considered in the praper q tarter, and that &provision worth' be made fur them, which should he more suitable to their station, and the cations and im portant deities they had to prrtorm. The 1,01(ll ADVOCATE supported the Bill. After a few words from Mr. ABERCROMBY, the Muse divided. and the numbers were— Poe the Bill, 56—Against it, 21—Majority for the third Treading, 3.5. The Bill Was then read a thin time and pissed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH EQUER moved the Order of the D.ry for the further consideration of the Re port on the Irish Distilleries Bill. The motion was agreed to after a few words from Lord Nrnaxy awl Mr. 6ot:ultras, and the House then went into a Committee ou the Bill. The CH ANCRLLOR of the E XCHEQU E Et hen stated that all the details of the measure hail been arranged in concert With the Irish and Scotch distillers. The 'Right Hon. Gentleman further said, thit the Excise were to have a power of closing up the worm of the still which con veyed the spirits to the principal receiver, onlessit could be made appear that such closinz up would be injurious to the party. 'Phis was a new clause, for as to most of the other dames there was, he believed, n.• ditTerence of opinion respecting them between the Excise and the distillers. • Mr. HUTCHINSON objected to the claus- for shutting up the worm. The UNA NCELLOR of the EXCHEQU ER consented to postpone it to the third reading of the Bill. In his opinion the other clauses were all arranged to the satis faction of the parties Sir K. FERUUSSONwas glad to li-ar that the clause was to be postponed, as lie considered that the adoption of it would be productive of ruinous consequences. After a few words from Mr. S. RICE and Mr. WAL LACE, Mr. HUME observed that all the whiskey he received from Scotland was smuggled.—(Hear, hear.) Yes, he was free to confess that fact ; Ile would even go farther. and say that all his pocket-bandkerchiefs were smuggled. (Laughter.) The fact was so, and lie was persuaded that most of his Hon. Friends around him were also in pos session of smuggled packet-handkerchiefs. —(llear.) {The lion. Member displayed a silk pocket handkerthi-f. and several other lion. Members did the same amidst loud laughter.] When a man once commenced smug gling lie was fit for any thing else ever after. —(Continued laughter.) lie knew that this laugh was intended against him, but lion. Gentlemen ought to draw a wide distinc tion between those who smuggled and those who purchas ed smuggled goods. His great object was to see some system adopted which would put an end to sninggllag al- together. .. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ohserved, 'that the Hon. Member would hive run some risk in dis playing his tnuoggled pocket-handkerchief, as any of his friends near 'him might have seized it, had they not placed themselves in the same predicament by displaying theirs.—(A laugh.) With respect to the evil of which the Hon. Menilwr complained, it was his intention to intro. duce some measure, early in the next Session, for the pur pose of remedying it. Mr. HUME. exp d himself satisfied with the pro. inisejfirrn by the Right lion. lientleuvut, in consequence of which he should decline proposing any clause on the subject at present. Sir R. FERtiUSSON complained that certain unfair advantages were given to the Irish over die Scotch dip tillers. Mr. WALLACE briefly explained. M e. W. SMITII said, that the common system ought to he adopted for the English, Irish, and Scotch distillers. In hit opinion the consumption of spirits ought to be disconate• minced in Ireland, and the consumption of beer encouraged. The interest of morals required it. It was only necessary !to took at one of Ilogarth's pictures, to see the effects of one and the other exemplified. Sir It.. FICIUMSSON said, he had conferred with some of the Scotch distillers, and their opinion was that the spirits would he materially deterioreteti, if the worm were closed up. Mr. MONCK wished, that the principle of equalized° , should extend to other articles as well as Writs. Mr. CAMPBELL thought that the Hon. Geetleman (Mr. W. Smith) to declaiming *gainst the use of spirits. seemed entirely to pass by the Hitt-shops of isoadoo. Mr. 11. O. RENNET deprecate!' the • prsctice of smug- Kling, to which the present systemless) rise. lie saw us reason why the per should sot make we of sis:fits as wog /