The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-02-06 00:00:00

present : and that the irritath the politic mind, had then the same existence Aso. 'Was that a moment at which to give a spring to every thing that was bail in th e nation:—was that a moment to afford them fresh pretexts, when they had already too much ground to work upon : 'With regard to the Bill of Paine and Penalties, he did not preen!l to any depth of knowledge in the conotitn tioual laws of the country, but lie 'nil think that if any procetsling at all %sere necessary, they should have pur sued that of impeaeliment. Fur likeitotone had thud down, that any offence committed against the interest of the Siete or of :he people, was liable to impeachment. H e men si am ..l this to show that the case of the Queen had been taken nut of the constitutional mote of pro ceeding in eases coming within the abuse description. The Hun. Meinber then referred to the opinions of Sir William Temple, delivered upon the case of Sir J. Fen wirk, in support of his ;argument spinet the adoption of the Bill of Pains and Penalties. He thought that lion. Gentleman opposite talked rather slightingly of the peop:e of England. Whatever confidence Ministers have in the majority of that :louse, and in the ariatiteraev of the cotititry,they dill not possess the conti defter of the country. He had observed this in Lis Wow dim, neighbourhood and at meetings whirls hail taken place in other parts of the country. Ministers wonlil do well to eyelid lIP whether ilium. meetings Mil not ropers:: the real feelings of the maltose He considered himself justified in saying, that the sentiments of the people were decidedly hostile to the present administration. was not a thus for creating divisions between the higher and the lower classes ; and no one could view any at tempt of such a natura without deeming it most peril ens and appalling. He feared that the proceedings of the Session were not, hitherto, ealculateil to increase the conli.lence which that House ought to receive from the people. He %haul.' eat., " be earefill that the people see the heart of this !louse beating in unison with the pulse of the nation—of the vigorous and healthful part—of The belt fbettwgw srf the nistion."—He certainly thought that her Majesty was now entitled to all her rights and privileges, as fully as if no proceedings hail obtained. l'he law required it, justice required it, and policy demanded it. IV hat lie had stated to the House he hail not felt as a party nein, for h had been always toiciiiinerted pith any ',arty ultateser. Ile had been 'minced to feel as he 110, and to SLOP tt hit Ile had stated, by th e s‘tli• conviction that the country sea' in a Mate of the utmost alarm ; anti that the policy whirs out to be adopted towards the people, wow that of con ciliation. Mr. ISAMU'S comrlimented the last ereaker, both Pivots thy matter of which a great part of ht. speech wits composed, and in the manner in which it was delivered. Upon many ..f its topics, it was impossible not 1., a: tees with the sentiments so ably expressed; and insist parti-, enlarly those which enforced the necessity of union be tween the different classes of the comusanity. It must be with a feeling of disgust, and almost with a degree of 'haute. that the House and the enitatry found themselves u; copied by the subject of that &bats, at a time when s.• mow!' impertant business remained npon their hand, • and called tur their moat serious ronoitleration. Thee* was the whole system of domestic pone), ; the weight of debt ; the Monstrous pressure npon our most material somata* of national prospwrity, and must particularly upon the agricultural interests: the Ire third state of the South of Europe, and the alarming symptoms which it held sent ; when these things were passing within and nitliont the comitry, it was with disgust and shame that Pie House must find itself occupied by the iliarnsoioll then hetiire it. But when they were at last, as lie WIN• runsing to smite definitive conehision upon the wire like), he twist, in few moments, state his reasons for the vide %shirt' he intended to give. 'fir Hon. Member who had moved and seconded the lies 'lotions had fairly itemise! their purpose to be an accusation against his blajestv'ohliiiisters, not merely brought finnan! as a llworetrical subject, hut as a practical atel silbstantial mutton, which, if carried, could lead to no other result thin theirdioniissal from Iris lajessiy . 4 service. Ile did net deny that it wits peril-411v constitutional fur that Howie to carry rip to the Throne its opinion upon the rendoet of any Ministers n hatever. But one of three things was necessary to he made not : --either gross mis conduct ;:rising from marked inadequacy ; or some act %%hick rendered them nnworthy of retaiuing their otlice. Intim first place. theii, was there any thing in the pro reedingo against her 3Lijesty, which indicated in adeiiacy on the part set the Admiaistration 7 .- It was exceedingly easy to blame and to find fault ; but it wonlil lie extremely hard to blame any persons einmeeted with a proceeding, b'eau's in the end it bail and at the same time not he ;title its point out a eoerse which would have anse erect better. Wuu!d it et t Lave been just matter of complaint against frts, it, is lien in possession of these ri 1111 l os, not cot from the Milan Commission alone, bur coining from all gaartere, and brought !ionic lir rt rt y Prr"" who travelled on the rontinent,—u mild it not have been highly repreheesible,ifontiler such circumstances, ?Ley hail received her Majesty as Vette bad returned le the plisses:mu of an unsullied character? Ile next came t.. the proposition made to her Majesty before her ar ti tal in this country, and adverted to Ate conduct of an I h"!:• awl Learned Gentleman on that occasion who was venattissioned to make the proposition, and it-as said to base it in writieg. Bet dies , sierr told that this Com tuisoiliner, when he met her Misj..ety coming to England, that this ambassador never 'lrby col his creilentisbe—e iu 110' Hanoi, that rued ikon enn- ME SO I lwrty • the if, Queen ...est by to.. jorrosen of . land : He was not so far dissatisfied as to join in the censure which the motion of the Noble Lord conveyed ; for it went to nothing less than a direct and absolute change of administration. With those who, like him. interfered with no party business whatever. it was wholly indiffer• rot of which side of the Ilonse were the individuals of whom the administration was composed. Wit of what ever party those individuals were, as lung as lie bad the lootoonr of a seat in that House hr would sup port them while they acted for the gaud of the country ; and whenever they should art otherwise, he would be equally ready to oppose them. If the present Ministers went ont, those who sat on his side (the Opposition) most form their successors ; and hr was willing to ohs every jostire to the talents of the lion. Gentlemen, which hr considered as perfertly competent to conduct the affairs of the State. Ile would mow advert to what fell from the last Speaker, with re spect to tht desperate faction which existed in the CIIUII - but which he looped had not extended itself far into that Ilunsr. Ile must sac, however, that the Gentleman of u how he had heel' speaking, hail of late given that faction too mooch countenance. Ile dill nut believe that any principle of union existed between them ; bat there was an evident system of en-operation u hick bad been -.a loin the 1' Ans.. Of much alarm.—(theering, and a lanzli front the Opposithoo.) -lie eotild not sup pose that it Honourable tientlestien came trior.ophantly into power, they would forfeit the pledges which they hail given, PVC'S to men so dangerous. 'flier most keep their faith ; and that cirrnmstance gaye him ap , prehension+ for the measures wlo:c:o they would intro duce. his the two last tomtit Its of the lute lawiltr , l Su yerriirn's reign, two very important Bills ,ter' passed, one for Preventing Sethi:loos 3leeting., and the other fin restraining the Liberty of the Press. The 0011tlethill opposed those hills as being unconsti tuitional, and not rendered necessary by the state of the country. They were for allowing the peers to revel in its utmost excess; anti with them baoisliment fur the second or ient.. of libel was tint to be endures!. His opinion tv.iSlin' entirely different npou th ter subjects, that theirs hail created in his tnind the greatest alarm for the safety of the country. Any Gentleman coming into office, bound to the repeal of those Bills, never most expect to meet with his 'typo, t. Tile part I'. 0099 ( )111111 1 / 4 iti011.111 , 10 come into power pleolgeolto a nels;soe of Parliament.— Not to that gradually prozreite:.ve reform whirl* should make a I,:ait here and a Idiot there, as eircimistetwes would warrant ; at to some system which was to su perse,te at since d o e pre. soot mode of adminiateting the Um's:it:ohm. He could no, therefore, see them *mate in tooter sorb an Tice., without entertaining the most se rious and unqualified apprehension. l•pon the ques tion of Catholic Emancipati lie also preferred the pre sent 3linistry ; because the granting of those claims moist lw the iieces.:ary consequence of a charge. With out intending to pass an iinqualifieil panegyric on Mi nisters, lie would say that fur a series of years they had carried MI the tiovernotent by measures that h.ad gene rally demanded his support. rosier all the Eircion• stances which presented themselves to his mind. it was impossible that lie could form any determination but that of opposing. the motion. Sir J. MACKINTOSH rose, in consequence of what had f Men front the lust Speaker ; hut did not intend to examine into his consistency or impartiality fur the last forty years. Neither should lie inquire into the panegy ric which he had passed upon one party, (anal which must bare been peculiarly grateful to the Noble Lord, who had been so entirely unused to it of late) u lode cen- I had flowed no abundantly upon the ether f that impartial gentleman.—(A laugh.)-11arioor laid down the Itasis of his ittopartiality, he proceeded to give a proof of it. be stating it to he his opinion that one part only could fo:la the Government of the country. That lion. Member said that his (Sir James 31ackintos:o . .) friends wools, be obliged to redeem their pledges. What were they? First of all, they bad attended public meetings soctlie people of England. When had this hero charged against Menibersof Parliament imbei ng entitled to conilein :lotion? Was it criminal to mix with the people, to ascertain their opinions, anal to endeavour to reclaim them, if they had been misled: If so. it meant that the majority of the House of Commons had declared war against the people of Fmgland '.—(Lond cries of Order," with vehement cheering out the Opposition benches.) Lord cAsTimitEmat rose to ti n te r . tie w ish e d t o have the opinion of the Chair, whether, in the roost ex• tended exercise of the liberty of expression, it 'sac in or der nab thy rules of Parliament fir a,)ember to say that the nei:,airity of the House of ('motions load Iles tared war against the people of England.—(Load eh( crins from both sides.) The SPEAK KR saiil there nimbi be only one opinionn in the Honse as to the nature of the words which had been spoken. 'fbey were most highly disorderly. He had confidently expected the lion. Member to explain the words, which were certainly niost disorderly. Sir .1. MACKINTOSH was prorreoling to Oat,. wi l es he was interrupted by the. Noble I,nr t in explanatiou of his meaning, that the tendency of the vote of floe ma joritv of that Hence on a recent occasion, would be to create a belief that it was at war with the interests of the people. With regard to the meetings of the people. Dill not lionAlentlemen recollect the meetings at the commencenient of the .Imerieasi war ? He believed the lion. Member himself (Mr. 11.14ars) attended them, as well as Sir 4i. Saville, who seas called to order is that House for tenet' stronger language than he bail used. Were not also Vie Jlargni. o f Mr. thew and other great names found connected, wilia.the popular meetings of that period. He supposed Me 'im partial ale.uhrr entertained his great partially forsthe Hill which went to restrict the liberty of Ifte becanse it had bees peeved to he entirety IseAbwtit, In ' spite of those Hill% had they not its that veep eurtnapoolis 1 seen meetings of the people. procemtiotto with llnftlioll and dugs, asorpassing say thing of the kisolttrb4ll4.ol , ever before bees witnessed? Nr%cr nas there a Lit. sissy Jpiatned libel. But dreetire usoderatk `e Hon..Mrsaber horror general horror , ia proposi I gave reform a regarded the eie.___ ithin the pale of the Constitu ,: of the most outrageous suspected that this feeling who were the enemies AI most the most safe and heard it let out so much as , Having,• however, dis impartiel !Member, he without touching oo a ) be diecnssed by itself, leary's name from the Li- Igh crime and misilemea - of the Bill of Pains . had been so eloquent ils Member It hotted 'ol die evening (Mr. Whit lay deeper to all the These proceedings. he evils and dangers of the ring them, bad shown a going on with them they he House would he driving did :rot pass this vote of ' doubt that itlild pro duced great evils, and yet he hail never heard one word uttered, to chew its necessity; and withont its paramonut necessity being shown, Ministers could have no excuse. .% It4hl Hon. Hentlentan (Mr. Ileflitirsi) bail indeed taken up an argument which had been used by his Predecessor (Mr. Carmine). in losing whims for a time, the Honer hail lost one of its brighteet ornaments, and alleged that the Queen's coming to this erten try had for ced Government to these nwaitures. This mi,:ht lie, hr ,untended, a Ministerial necessity, bet it was no public necessity : a necessity which credit only he convancieg to those who, like the Hon. 11eitilter lor t:nrlfe Cantle, maintained that there was only one set of Xliiiisters in this great, this enlightened country, who could comlnet its .:faire. Ilia lion. Friends (the Attorney-General and Solicitor-flenerala), it' ...died on to prosecute the obscur est person for a Burl, ii mild net proceed without an as surance that thee were likely to be succesaftil. And the political advisers of tie. Crown omit still more than the legal advisers to have looked to this, for their concerns were of mach greater importance. They also were hound to have abstained unless they had a reasonable:is sue owe of success, After alloaing for the evidence 01 unknown witnesses. and after lonising at the temper and circnitistatteet of the people. .11l these things they ought to have censidered before they determined.— .Itraiti. liethitie .wild he eturo fatal than change and vacillation. yet re..ii se atd vacillation had marked their conduct from hezietline to end. A Might Honour able lientlemnii (Me Bailees.) hail said that there was a necessity, i:i or•!er to preserve the morals of the emintrv. ;eel !milt on the ronetirrence of the Hnnse in the iiiesoci4 thins with the Queen. But the Moose knew nielitee idt the cis' ‘t hirli Ministers hail in their pintsessine, and it was Al iniseira :these who placed it in that ilitficidtV and emear..assmittit. liy their pro eetelitigs they hail firet involved the honor of the Crown; and they lend neat in.leseil the House to its dishonor to threw itself at the feet of a subject (a thing which hail nut been done fur six centuries): and all to palliate L theie fern eliahoolee. Having got the House to adopt this slttp, they MIT tin - rtifht to blame the Queen tot .not receiving their advice. They were not her ciinsti tntional ads isers, and she was the sole judge of is hat was for her uwe honor and dearest interests. Ile wtrild Next ask, tvlet.t were their fissile:owes of success": if the Hill hail peeled the Lords with the PatllC majority which it had soli the second reading, he would &d are, from havine ronseited the precedents for '2,1:11 years hack, with the excretion of one ( the utelettcholy one of Sir J. Fetiwic;.. which would hardly he set up as an exam ple,) there were none with al.:deli it would not be Hill cutouts to compare this of her Majesty. In the case of Atterhury, the numbers were in proportion of too to one; and teen in that of Stratford they were as five to two. But in this, if confirmed, as hr had observel, the same to the end as on the second reading they wieild he beyond the proportion necessary to Live the cast in a rommois jiiry, iiti which ne (-limited had ever beets eonvicted or paeislied. Their conduct, then, hr asserted wan an sefotice ag tin :t the public, and a outlet' to the monarchy. It hid be en put, what teenr the ei its that had aris•iti nut of this case. If they credited the loyal Aildres,es. fecre si c.e a multitude el • libels to complain of. lint who vaned them ?—the prosecutors of the Queen Who ani;ste.l the best olititiments of human na ture against the I tics of the counts ? The prosecutors of the Queen. filen if they were pure in intention, they had been guilty of en great an error in judgment as to be a sufficient ground for the iiismissal of any but a perpetual Administration of :he kind supported by the llonourshle "letnher fee l'orffe Casa.. It was the Mi nisters, who prose.-uted the Queen, who had most seri feisty injte-eil tat found.eiens of the Throne. By this they had furnished a magazine for every one to attack the hereditary Moe:achy. They bail unveiled the pre judices and infiretiii-s which, as to all matieisul, belong ed also to Kings and Queens, (with mulch palliation fro m the nature of their education and eirrionstances) hail thrown them •open to public scandal and insult, and bad made ;hem tee them.• of derision :111 I scorn. They had published fur ever the disputes bete cen the King and • e fiteen.•l9ll brought the c try to the v erge ola civil war in these tinarrels. What were allot her areunients to this— hail left the Jimmie itself in an isiseiatte situ:ll4n by this attack on the infirmities et royalty, and it would take a lung emirse of sound principles to restore it to its dignity and stelii!i - v. He assured the Homse that in all he had said, his weeds thoied more in sorrow than in anger. lie feared th.it they were doomed to pass the rennin , ' rr of their nays in trouble and disquiet ; b u t of alldhe evils the greatest ii wild lie a bleach between that Meuse and the people—a breech he dreaded would he widened by the division this night. For, however a majority el !het !loose might decide, the people hail siecided on the censure of 31ieleters by a majority of 211 to I.—(Cries of e hear, hear," awl .. an, no, " front the Ministerial silo.) The con fi dence expres sed by them- cheers was what tilled hint with alarm. He wished for a glorious peace and a happy alliance between the lions. anti the people ; and then they might brave the state of Europe oreasioned hr the glerione peace anti happy alliances of liiiiiiters. If Getelestsen, however, derbies! in favour of Ministers, whose characters their own friehets allow ed ware injured by the proceedings , against to e s Q ue en, and eh() hail cluee to place after they had lost power, all he ro-thl say Was, that he had discharged his duty and must kayo the consegnetices to laturity. Mr. PEE:. (*are sonic confusion respecting the Menilser w. ii had rate ht the eye of the Speaker) he - ! by making an ar.iogy for rising after a speaker of to 'teeth experience, but the oatere of the debate relieved him fray the necessity of following the course ea that Usinottrahle Gentleman. Having been absent lin alloccastioes when lie could have had an upeorto nit), of delivering his seutiments on this question, and iisulding tier sans °pillion with the majorit M a for: i ;nee evening,. whose decision had been sp oken of hi t ech severe term, by the Iftinuotable Gentkisiti,lll) . . . .. . . - 11%. llESnuons. . - or personal feelings, on the prleciple of impartial Jess . tire. In Petting ent he would observe that be was one who did not concur with Government in the measure of omitting the. Qiiren'e name from the Liturgy, and on these grounds, that there was no inconsistency its centi nuing it, and at the same tine coining boldly forward . with the charges which were to be made against her. Beet neither could he have agreed to time nimble Of the Not:le Lord (A. Hamilton), becanse it took hold of only an iq vitiated solitary point, and had little or no bearing on the stain question ; because it was ill-tinted ; as, Wined* at all, it ought to have been made last Session; it ought to have been made on the tlath of January, last year, when the order was issued, and not kept till the ttlith of January in this. Why this delay ? And also, hems* it would hate heen an met of inlnstice . to visit that act as a crime in Ministers after the same Parliament had distinctly sanctioned it. He would have toted against the motion too, because it was calculated to re dress newrong; because it was merely adverse to I/o -vertime:l, hut no way in Savour of the Queen. It was hinted indeed that other resolutions were to follow, but be said, “ let us have ..irect proctedingt, and do not make so important a merlon a-merweereiilacy to another which can hardly be understood." On these grounds Tie - -• would have voted with the majority in the ease *IWO to. He must, however, speak in other ileum of the ',re sent motion h t forward by smother Noble Lord. The manly feeloig and straight forward manner its which it was framed and brought before the House, me rited evert- ;Nebo.. The speeches of the Noble Metes and Seconder plainly avowed their object to be the r..- unseal of tinsel-anima 01111 an entire change in the Ad ministration. This had been coupled with come antis--- ;Latinos of a consequent Reform. He cared not n he ther it winds! produce Its form or not. If be thought the Government justly chargeable with the vinslickit e spirit attributed to it by the Noble Lord, or with the corrupt love of office fed by the lion. lientlests se, he would not look bevoud either for his vote. Ile would rather see Parliamentary Reform or tatholie Kinalicipation follow, than he would support a Govern ment whose existence would be a stain Nisei all Govern usients.—(Hear would found his vote on the view of their whole conduct, and examine if it was such aa to call for the present grave intrrposition of the Ilou•e. If upon the whole he approved of their unitises and of their proceedings, though be might differ on points of minor importance, he would meet the motion with a direct negative. Anil he put it to Gentlemen opposite if it would be fair now, when they saw how all the currents had set, and bow events 11411 run, to form their better jnlgisieut un experience ? No—they ississt in justice place themselves in the situation of Ministers, and must look at things as when the past was the and what was now deur, baried in obscurity.— ) —lle had already avowed that lie differed fr-s is alinistera on the subject of the omisaioss of the Queen'a name from time Liturgy. lk Iratl also heard with regret a Right Honourable Gentleman withhold from her the title of Queen. And he li further lamented for the an swer to her request respecting a ship of Wei. Such matters, though they could have no weight with met es .ealighteued minds, wet e calculated to make an impres sion oft the great body of the people, however slight they were, she public formed its opinions on them, since. as Lord Rayon had truly said, " Von %ill sooner kno.v which wa r the wind blows by casting np a straw, th to by cm•ing a stone." Here he clused t:se points of dif ference betivern himself am! Ministers; they were as no thing in comparison with the whole ; on which lie cor dially agreed with them. lie approved of their inst.. tiatioig the proceedings. The I lue.tient.(SirJ.Mackintesli) had asked, where was the necessity for these prom s ings? In the course of his experience, there never wit a dose inure imperative; for it oils imiams-ible to allow 'the Queen, labouring tinder such charges as she slid, r usenet the Throne without making a consuinnication 1.• Parliament. IlMinisters had suffered this—if time Huns - iastead of the modon now Lefore it, mould have bee., discussing whether they 'should or should not be im peached fur withholding from Parliament time evislen•-s of the momentous charges of which they load know • leslge.—(t'lieers.)—lt was as!sed by the Learned Gen tkinan, what would hare been the evil if they had not proceeded? Was it emit evil then to admit imputed adultery to the Throne ?--(Bear, hear, hear:)— Wonisl it have been a slight thing to place at the heal of the female society of this ritilltiry (that female society distinguished by all the feelings and principles th could delight human kind) would it hare been a slight thing to hare permitted her to emu' • the highest rank, and to set the for at example among these, who was laboaring under such heavy charges.—(Hear, Ile woul•I give no opinion iipin the proceedings, hut that opinion lie could nut help infinencing him, and it must be the jestificati .... of Isis conduct in private lit-. where this party was concerned, and of his negative to the present motion. While admitting this Intlisence ni the proves-slings on his judgment, lie was also ready to coneeile to Gentlemen opposite, that the Bill uo: beving been carried through, the Queen was entitled to tit benefits of an acquittal, as far as her rights and prim lege. were involved. lint he hail tu consider what was slue to her .mecesere--now the accused, tool be felt co.n ladled tu acquit them when he saw these considerations fm rd upon him by the motion. He saw the absolute rt its for pros-et-thing against the Queen, an t:me same exposure would have been the inevitabls consrqnence of any attempt of Ministers to .evade it, if Government had attempted to avoid inquire, they would have been impeached, and on grounds which it would not hive been easy to meet. Supposing this had happened, and :he iti At Hon. Member for Kiiiirevhss rongli (Mr. Tierney), had iiistitisted the motion for Me peivehment, it would only hare been in unison with his declaration of the 2lst of Feh. it ben he stated that he would not vote a farthing of the public mousey to a per son labouring- under such a cloud of suspicion as the Queen, without previous inenire. This assertion alone mast have lea to an investigist:nn. het the Right nourahle Gent. had further deolarcel, that he must hay • this pledge to s'cure the 'I tirone front deetradatioe. What then could have preveuted inquiry, irate :light lion. Gentleman had meted on these principlhe„ and re mart' a pr o vision for the Queen, such as Ai Nona! had the other night voted rinanitnotiely. Had Ministers to evade it, what a case the Right' lion. tientleinan might have made.—(Hear, hear was said that . . -, . -,„--.. _,________ - . • . • - 1 - lit -`A TES * * rn...............i.m.....-~ - - _ i. 1041 hers sAsittttid th* mittrise !tot a Faso of 6 ol I , l * tad 11 1 14orsniim, t; tile Kan. sad Isesitad diessladias *maul sillily.* the , Simi s tr.sntest neeresity email Instify the Minglitg foltear sold meg relented the written prognaltion wad/ had L s i a l A s i a tb r a se a si dd e t s ensup t u e n but called urns his able "prevalence of sarliliett load libel. n ; .., ie ti measures. ft rainainell, thin, to denims im- see n p ia,..,1 i n his ligail.. o wt h er s•wh.nerresity had 'listed. :bad the iseet d e w's- ermspanlnst,tipot i that oreasion, to 'make a sonananni".l- epee to the gnestion of en firm:tit lion whiels smite was, —was the morality of the anntry torn to her M a j es ty. not reduces! to writing, and raluw- P at liainent, *fidget which the Hi hued( to he impaired by such 1 coons as had horn snit- qttlintly leas atelrentic. In eonspliener with An ditteethins , Castle '*keened es greti a hot au sil? What was known in this contain( the reports of a largo ans4ority off that House. he (Mr. B.) Si am- ' whether it wee a local or a general "Withers! altroad respecting her Maj , weans g jnnetion.witli two Hon . Frier....* ot his, had afterwards The horror with which this pros which was most dangerous ; for it tra in eoniparison to that which exercised s eel( ilithisses stettonitted certain arrangements to lier k llfajesty, when daffiest! in all quarters by those prNeediags. had been as unexpectedly rejettri as Base previously violent and nhcoistitntionsl rerun m ac h, in.leeti, hail been heard among the higher tireless made by ministers. Cooder all the cirettances of the reform--all refetwambisch regardet I'rit not where the moral feeling , the sterling worth of ease, there appe a r e d nearly reason to lode that his the country--s-aireeforan within the be nation was to be found, life was aware that some Majesty's Minister s , i n ma ki ng th a t proposition; acted tisto—irasetlai*resisted with that *wild say, that the Queen bail f o rc e d herself into the under thepre si n ti pti or that they were folliatingthreonrse Ammeter. He hurl always **spec Countrr, and tendertd th e measures necessary to be most congenial to h e r ll a jesty's w i s h es . ff blame WAS 'was at the Whim *kb all those w adopted against her. He would lather 's e that she had to be attached, be believed that it misfire divided, and oft:n(4r" sal that they dreaded te been forced to come into the country. lie said so, be- he was not sere that Ministers deserved to briar apart.— reasonable, ants he had nester hear ICAUIe she hail been placed in a situation which left hey Thr lion. Member who had spoke last. had gone into a by the Honoorible (tenth:man. t no choice. • Was it nothing that her Maj e sty's nam e h a d discussi o n wlsethee impeachment would not have beets is;isserl the pony speech of the in been esclatled from the Liturgy? Was it nothing th a t the p re fe ra bl e course o f proceedin g against her Majesty. would now tars to the question • tier just ri ghts bad not been recognised? Was it nothing If be (11r. II.) were c a ll e d capon to say which be runs.- subject of importance eamigh to t that the British Ministers , in Foreign Co ll e ts, were deers! hest—erne the general principle—if there had not viz. the expunging alter Majesty' desired not to recognise her as Quern of England: He been sonic objections entertained in qu ar t erso f th e MO* tUrgy, which he held tube a high *as of opinion that she WAS so completely driven into est legal authority, he should hay-. chosen that of no- I neer; witho ying ant thing Ihe country. that s he h a d no a t. erua t ur , l e ft b e t t h at of peach nte nt. But it wan not for hint to question the opi- and Penalties, only because it acknowledging the crimes imputed to h e r—of submit- Ilion* upon which the flill had been founded. The lion. le clearer ter; by an Honour:dill sing to the sentence which ha.; hen passed upon her— Seconder of the Motion hail stated, that tneastires like 4, 5 ,441 them • fir course o f thu (for he contended that sentenee hail been passed) or of the Hills of Pains and Penalties, were not known in the more), but se his objections mnisiag instantly into the con& ry to face her accusers. She regular administration of justice. and ought only to Ise c'ow'lings ist the Queen. 'I *bred the latter. soil the.proceedings were as instantly resorted to in cases of extreme necessity. Then all asserted, had *rated all the ev commenced. And if they were impolitic in themselrea , which remained for considerar leas, tfintber the sir- country t Mi ors, by instil :l 6 4 Surely ills eircommances of the reentry, at th• w o o d ii ein.tillerS of this rise were Mr ! r a s to indite,. Visit tie- disregard gs of these thin ;by goit -.. which %Art them birth, Take 'try', donhly so. grey of necessity. nits led to the notice of tire vulgar had added taielmottenee, and the N It was we ll known that Aff - snore unhappy distress ' ceY, which It;s4 even hew !loud in that Clouse smitten to the motet, if they did weighed upon the people at that time as at the in many of the Petiti , of " Why i s no t the I „.„ 3 „,i to n i g h t. N „ man could nresent : an-I that the irritation w hich no w a gliei e d Q ueen t o b e tried by twelve jurymen ot the land ?-- duces, great etils, soil vet he had i I t 1,11.19. I • pull a .0)legtIVIII 411Taiii11 1 1 iu that How hr Lenin tint kir what ream, , rsbother it intalit he tit prepiiiig upon the awl Leone mind presented him hitt for sonic real nrh r, he then said that he could out etplain es Mid then, hot should hare an opporttsaits of doing. t“ - teatter. If he (Mr. 1LA,..) might taint the Wee' puttim: him iu mind of that declaration, perhaps t moment n.l time route oleos that opportunity (Loud ;Angering). Aml more partleu!arly -7"%e1m0.- —""—"""`""'"`-' . - -r. • - .0 itzt NWIIIIIIIIi Vate ttie - grbandi oh t ithich be wot 4 ► .... let v i r ir oldm'e mod leg ow !tart t eya:nrrem .. in vot i ng w t i p th as thosL w a lso kat . _is tiny. , ~, sederateßeform of 4 f d d i dk 1 Ird I fed .m pothet . F„, forge acmes% tisajwciple. •Tise eapressiem had, it wait tree, r: h e was no t s on, been afterwards edified' aj►d be re *iced that it j arror.—(A lanais.) bean explained in a war consistent frith the sense of P. itiOn WIN region-led Parliament. He had a . painfal lute to performs ; bet • the advocates for he ire' there to 'aims his honest and independist I plea, that all safe . . and this he would do regardless o f any Aim le establishsnents of ° P inion ' ale of the comaito. !►n but that urn his own 'situ!, and without party vg•• •••. lIM,IMII •, I • Wei 14111 11141 I n • House knew malting' of dm facts whop it sanctioned the negotiation. OW% it not &limn thatiComuais l ion had been sent out, and evideurey;liecttd i'acd teitit th..t in their possession was it . pirsvihte . The flowerets/ens to avoid a cotumutunication to PAritattieitt S._' . Vb . ,d' the 7 attempted till., then they *adds hare blifeN tr Ollt4 of a derelletto of that, aid' have M. their nigh to tetain : odic#: Ant itirnig ot a, fag, proposal. •sartetlened, by the ntediatio% Of /'er • Vposettr. and' the **nen basil to it, there Itratrtio!alWhs, tire :it yeti 'hi' i tto institute loft pet s, $Ae• 1 0 had guano. 1 , t 4 bniiritittiners of indit sad to at lore her bravely! the tlrrotit In tifml4ol4 Ai till . rit. they itretle - tontlocet of.pter citc s :.m **s 0 ..e -. 0 !T . •!'' 't ' .~ ~ ~.~ A