The Statesman. — London, England, 1823-03-08 00:00:00

. • - :• . was surprised to find that any Member could avow that troops were necessary to keep under the populafon, whe ther of 4 rcland or of the colonies. But when he found it avowed that the country was called upon to pay 3.900 in the lonian Islands in support of tyranny and mis rule, he (Mr. Hume) declared that 10,000 were not sofficient for the same purpose in this country. lie was surprised to hear it said that a loge army was necessary in consequence of the increase of population. Be hoped the slay would come when a much smaller mili tary force would be found safficieht. No friend to the cogn•ry could wish to see the army maintained iu Its pre sent scale. He did expect a mock larger reduction than nflve appeared, seeing that we had altered our Continental policy, and that in future We were to cultivate a policy in evtry way opposed to the system which made a large force becessary. The motion was then negatived without a division. COMMITTIE OP SUPPLI.—AZIMT WriMATES. The house then resolved itself into a Committee of the whole whole house on the Army Estimates, Lora PALMERSTON said it was not his intention to take up the time of the house at any length, as the differ ence between the Estimates of the present anti the last svear was so trifling. There was a diminution in the first "charge of 18,0001. this year as compared with the last., Re stated last year that there would be a charge of 60.0001. , more this year in consequence of its being ne • misery to maintain two regiments to send out to India, • in the room of two other reginnots which were returning borne. aThat increase, however, did not exceed 28,0001. • snatbt * liihole of the regiments did not return. In the 'anima articles in the first class of Estimates—Land Fenecis..Staff Officers, Public Departments, Medicines "Yeluntiser Corps, there was a balance of decrease of • 21 1 126/.. • The NOble Lord then adverted to the increase err decieise in the different items of the second and third classes of Eitimates. The Committee would at once per ceive the whole amount of the reductions, when he • suited that the total charge of the three classes of Esti ' metes, including tare Veteran Battalions, did not exceed 6,061,8/8/. The house would take into consideration, that no more than the half of this charge was applied to the active sereice, the other half being granted exclo sively on acconnt of services already performed. The hours ought also to be Informed that the amount of charge this year, including Ordinaries, Extraordinaries, commissariat, &r. seas less by 9001.thatt the amount fixed by the Committee of 1817, as a re iv unable charge in time ws peace. The Noble Lord concluded by moving, that there be alkieed for his Majesty's land service at home • wed ibrbael (Petering the regiments employed in the • trellis: 4 rd pestesetons of the East India Company), 69,144 item from - the 25• h Dec. 1L22, to the 2 Ith of Dec. lartanclnsire, twine 365 days. Tbi Resolution bring put by the Chairman, Mr. HUME entered into an explanation of the rea son why he thought the number of the Foot Guards and the Cavalry too large, and entirely disprooortioned to the neeessitles•of the service. The officers, in particular, required much curtailing. He meant no disparagement to those genilemetipersonally, Ent be must say, that a more useless body the public had pot in its service.— (A laugh.)) Sir ALEXANDER HOPE defended the character of that branch <of the Army) to which the honourable gentleman had allotted. Tse household troops had at all times deserved well of their country. Mr. DYNHAN said, that at was not his intention to take a part in the particular discussion before the Com- It appeased to him, that whoa:ever vote the house came to upon she sat e of the Army, Mist be provision al, b-cause the country was n..)‘v in that tits:a:ton. that in 24 hours intelligence might arrive from the Continent whirls might have the effect of aleraeging the scale upon whirl) they proposed now to fix the extent of their mili tary force. He nail been always active in supporting ev re meesure thetiwent to reduce the burdens of the pub lic, being persuaded that in a time of peace there could he na reason fur innintairing Esniblislanents that pressed heavily on the people. But it did seem to him that the present posture of affairs suggested very diffisrent feel. ings. The country now saw, avowed and acted on by thiPowrre of the Continent, that extravagant policy which had hither e been considered as too absurd even fur theadoption of that semi-barbarous State which had 'moused to promulgate it. When it was no longer du bious that Franco had aisknowleriged an iu• :2rition to co operate upon the wine unuetural printiples, and that up on the avowal of one of lesr first Ministers, then the po licy of 'hose states assuteei a prartisal shape, and it was for England to take the decisive step. '1 he Ministers • had no ether alternative in the present state of circum-, stance.: than to convey a dis.inct intimat'on to those Pow ers that if wer he underteken upon such principles, they must consider Eisele:et as their enemy. The sentiments that were put forward at Hare ich and at Liverpool af forded him noels pleasure. lie brevity joined in the sentitnent—" Civil and Rol:gloms Liber:y all over the, World." Hot what liberty would be permitted to prevail if Spa'n seas to fell a sacrifice to the unprovoked wanton aggressscn that now awaited her ; he could put it to the house, if Spain was overcasts in this manner, might rot Ireland be the next theatre of attack? The question Is as thus brought home to their own door. If Consti tntiotall female:no teas the enemy to be put down, — did they think iresion would stop after Spaiu was subdued ? He . felt very strongly upon this sub ject, and was annoys to take this opportunity of avow ing it, as it would be the last time that it would be in Isis power to do so for considerable period. What would the case, he asked, if Spain was conquered, on the ore hand, or if she t wee successfa!ly cut of the strutters on the other band, nitisout our cceoperations ? What the coneactoences would he let the house carefally consider. This was a most important view of o w present circum stances; it brone,rit home to ourselves in the strongest moaner the case of the Spaniards. We should without delay resolve to assist them to the whole extent of our means, for we might be assured that in the event admits resistance was involved the fate of our own independence. Ile trusted then that the inomeet the French oar com menced, that militant should be the beeiroting of liries between Great Britain and that Purer. In the mean time it would be the must c r Ulnae( nsg lett in us if we did n .t prepare manfully and resolutely ag sinst such an event. In making these observations, he believed he was only stating the sentiments of every man in the country . ; but there was ano - her reason why this co nnrr y should mune sts*mtely adopt a derisive part. Portugal had now merle common carts. with Spain ; the prinriple was the satire they had both to contend for. Ile believed he was not in error when be asserted that there was a treaty between this country and Portugal, by which that kingdom was authorized to claim our support in ease of any aggression. Ile was not wrong he lAtered, in saying, mat andel p ding the necessity of our assistance, she had already reminded as of leer right, and that in return we had me knowledgeil it in the most decided Mance-, as might be seen in a state paper some time since printed in all the public journals. Nut, if Spain was made the object of atack, how could Portugal expect impunity, for her fault ava.s the same in the eyes of the enemy r He was not dis couraged from avowiug these sentiments by seeing the benches aboata • Welled, because lie knew that those absent were performing the satne duty- —(A laugh.) Ile was happy to say that there was at that moment a great ccmpliment in the course of being paid to the representa tive of the Spanish ration. He trusted that it would net be an empty compliment. • Such were the opinionswhich lie thought it secessary to declare upon this occasion, firmly persuaded that they would be the opinions ()revery man in the cocottes, as soon as it was known that France bad commenced hostilities. ; Me begged pardon for hay iog occupied the time of the Committee so long. The THE STATESMAN introduction of topics not immediately anticipated by the Committee might require an apology. He should have abstained on this occasion, but that it was the only opportunity which he could take advantage of for sonic time. Mr H. SUMNER said be had no wish to prolong a discussion upon the topics adverted to by the hon. and learned gentleman, but he felt it necessary to state his opinion, that the hon. and learned gentleman was in error when be stated that his sentiments as to the policy to be pursued by Great Britain in the present crisis were those of the people. He (Mr. If. S.) tlid not look with approbation upon- the conduct of France. He did not think, even if it were politic for us to assist Spain, that our assistance nook! he necessary. He believed t hat the menaces of France carried very little danger with them to the rising liberties of Spain, as they were called, or to that Constitution, which was as little like liberty as their lands was like property. lie would maintain that it was physically impossible for France to possess herself of Spain. Bonaparte with all his activity could not effec t it. The result would be the same as to any permanent dan ger to Spain from French troops. If they went in a small number they most fail—if they went in greater force, then greater nomberswould be destroyed. He trusted that there was no treatyinexistence which would compel os to enteron a war. The policy which reason and senseond the voice of the people, pointed out on this occasion, for this country, was neutrality.—(Hear, hear.) Ministers had one plain obvious duty to perform; they should resolve upon performing it steadily and faithfully—namely, to tnainta;n peace. Sir W.DE CRESPIGNY expressed it to be his opinion, that it would be very impolitic in Ministers to engage the country in a war at the present moment. The Resolution was then put and carried. Lord PALMERSTON then moved the grant of 1,841,6581. ISs. Bd. for the land forces of Great Britain. Mr. Hl ME said, that when the Report was brougitt up, it was his intention to enter at large, into an els mtration of the recruiting establishments for England and Ireland, to show that it was not necessary to main tain the Albany and Chatham barracks at their present extent. Lord PALMERSTON, adverting to the observation of the lion. Gentleman a few minutes ago, said that he was sure he could show that the cavalry was not main tained in any disproportion to the necessities of the ser vice; that it was a service, which, from its nature, it was impossible to increase, except with great labour, and after a lon4 interval. The Albany barracks was a place for the reception of recruits,and contained on the average every month, 1673 individuals. Chatham was for in valias, and cunt-Wed on the average nary month 625 individuals. Mr. HUME would show that these establishments were toe extensive on anothrr occasion. He then ad verted to the riding establishment, and stated that he con sidered it a u.'eleas expense to the country. Mr. O'GRADY submitted that the riding establish ment was totally unnecessary. He never heard a cavalry officer express an o p inion favourable to it. He did not see a shadow of advantage in upholding it. Mr. BERN AL wished to hear front the Noble Se cretary an assurance as to o hen this exwnse should cease. Lord PALMERSTON insisted that on the principle of u uiformit, and upon a variety of other grounds , the riding estab lishment was one of the branches of ser vice the most necessary. He was, not able to say at what time it would be proper to reduce it altogether, and could only add that he Nould pledge himself to sanc tion its continuance only so Ion; as it was found to be necessary. After a few :nerds from Mr. O'GRADY the Resolotion was agreed to. The sum of 719.710/. 12s. Si. was then voted for tbe land forces of ',eland._ Lord PALMERSTON then moved the grint of 93,5031. 2.. Id. for the General Staff of Great Britain, exclusive of India, which, after a few words from Mr. Bums, was agreed to. The Noble Lord moved the grant of 18,7,651. 1;s. 3d. for the Staff of Ireland, which was sorer(' to. With res pect to the Medical Board, it would he at present inc.n veident to make any change in it. The resolution was rhea ao•ced to. • A sum of 111,33;1. Is. 3t. was then voted to defray the expenses end allowances of the Officers and Clerks to the several public departments in. Great Britain. On the qttestion that 9,10;1. 16 be granted for si milar purposes in Ireland. Mr. HUME objected to the grant, awd said he had hoped some reduction would have been made, and that the mode of conducting the military and %Awll departments in that country would he simplified. Mr. 6011LBI "RN said it %%as yet impossible to make tbe intended reductions. The present sum was to be ta ken on account, it not being yet known what precise SII-11 would be required. • Mr. HUME said that he understood the business of the military . department in Ireland could he done, as in Eng land, without the aid of the Chief Secretary for that country, and on the 29th of next month, he would make a motion to that effect. The grant was then agreed to. The coin of 13,1301. was voted to defray the charges of medicine and sureery fur the army in England, and a sum of 4,8351. for similar purposes in Ireland. On the motion for granting 134 0001. to defray the charges for the volunteer corps in Great Britain, Mr. HUME said he was of opinion that much of that expense could be spared. The Yeon.anre would serve for honour, and did not reqnire money. They also en joyed everol immunities, among which was an exemp. tion from certain taxes. Lord PALMERSTON said that the Yeomanry were a useful body, and cost the State very little. The allow ance granted them was little more than 31. pee man per year. Sir T. LETRIIRIDOE bore testimony to the concise of the Yeem tory corps, which was a most valuable body, and the least expenditure. itlr. F. PAI.NIER was of opinion that no money cemLl he worse laid out than that given to the Yeomanry. He saw them sometimes use horses which were not lit fur a charge if occasion required it. Mr. BEN Err said the Yeomanry were a most useful corps. They still belonged to the body of the people, seldom interfered in political riots, and were very effectual in suppressing civil riots. Mr. FREEMANTLE defended the Yeomanry corps, particularly those of Beckioghanishite, whom he had the honour of commanding. Mr. F. PA LM ER and stir. BENNET explained. After a few words from Mr. WIRY, Mr. Ideate, and Sir .1. SIik:LLET, the vote was agreed to . On the resolution for granting 19,3841. 4s. 2J. to defray the cbarrs of the Yeomanry corps in Irekand, Mr. 11U3IE said, that when the Report of the Com mittee should be bronuht up, he would object to that Resolution, and would negative it if possible. That corps in Ireland was :s most dangerous body, and was coutradistinguiehed from the Yvon' inry corps of Eng land. He hoped the Report would not be received in his absence, as was the csee lately with the second reading of the Irish Yeomanry Corps Bill. Mr. GOULBURN said that be did not intend to have taken advantage of thelion. member's absence yesterday, but wbeu the ordinary business of th house was gone through, and lie was going to make his motion on the commutation of tithes in Ireland, there being only few Irish Members then in the house, he did, at their request, and in order to give time for the arrival of more- Irish Member., more in the mean time the second reading of the Yeomanry Corps Bill. Whenerer the Honottrab'o Member brought the csse of the Yeomanry Corps before the Horne.Goulburn) wonld show that that holy was distinguished for its loyal y and gaod c /Mitre. Colonel TRENCH defended the Yeomanry Corps of Ireland, and said that in the North, being a Protestant country, they consisted of Protestants, but in the South the Cathodes funned a large portion of the Yeomanry CO 1. Ihe Resolution was then agreed to, as was also a Re solution to grant 19,5761.165. 10d. to defray the ch ages for eleven companies of Infantry to protect the .erritortes of the East India Company. On the Resolution for granting 11,5891. 161. Id. to de fray the charge of the Royal Military College. Mr. HUNII?. wished to know bow many of the 290 students in that College for the last year were qualified for employment, and how many did actually get commis sions. He could discover no use in going to the expense of educating those young men unless they gut employ ment. Lord PALMERSTON said, that the number who were employed was 43, of whom 25 got commissions by purchase, and 18 withont purchase. Sir 11. lIA RDI NUE defended the institution. Mr. HU3lk..saiti, he bad not got an moaner to his whole question. He was desirous to know how many had completed their education at the College, and left it without being provided with commissions. Lord PALMERSTON was not t ten prepared to say how many had left the College; hut he believed all who completed their education then got commissions. The objection to the College formerly was, that no one could go Into the army without having gone through the Col lege. The objection at present was, that titose who went through the College were not at all taken into the army. Mr. HUME said, h.:. objected chiefly to the Staff Of ficers of the College. He did not see the necessity for so misty Governors for so few young men. He wished the example of the Military College of America should be followed, which cost much less. Lord PALMERSTON said, the Military College in America had 272 students. Tile English College had 290, and that number was not disproportioned to our army, compared with the American army. Mr. HUME said, that the College was the only place for education in America, whereas many places for that purpose were in England. The vote was then agreed to. Mr. HUME gave notice that in the bringing up of the Report he would move for a reduction of half the officers of that establishment. The sum of 182,8201. Iffs. Id. was voted to defray the charges of general officers having military command, and not otherwise provided for. On the Resolution for granting 29,1501. 4s. ltl. to de fray the charges of garrisons at home and abroad. Mr. HUME objected to the expenses attending the Governors of Jersey, Guernsey, Fort Augustus and Fort George, &c. On the bringing up of the Report be would make a motion fur the reduction of some of those Governors. The Resolution was then agreed to. 126.7501. was voted for the half-pay of land forces in England anal Ireland. 69,6481. for the military allowances to reduced Officers of land forces. 32,4961. to defray the charges of Pensions of Chelsea Hospital. The following sums weee afterwards voted:- 14 0001. for Kilmaiultam Hospital. 1,224,0001. for the out-pensioners of Chelsea Hospital. 114,0001. for half-pay, to the officers of foreign corps. • 136,0001. for full pay to retired officers. - 26,0751. fur the Royal Military Asylum. 127,7981. for widows' pensions. 179,7981. for wounded officers on the compassionate list, and receiving full pay. 3i,7331. for superannuation allowances to persons fil ling offices of a civil nature. 6,8541. for persons of a similar description in Ire land. 33,0001. for Fees to the Exchequer for passing Army acrounta. 81,8591. for the veteran battalions in Ireland. The Report of the Committee was ordered to be receiv ed on Monday next. The Iris , ' Arms Bill went through a Committee—To be reported on Monday. The Committee of Ways and Means was put off to Monday. Sir THOMAS LETHBRIDGE brought in a Bill for more effectually ascertaining the subdivisions of coun ties, in order to promote the convenience of Magis trates at Quarter Sessions. Mr. HUME gave no:ice that on Tuesday the 30th day of April he should make a motion respvting the inOriVy of renaming the Lord Lieutenant, the Secre tary, and the various other departments from Ireland. At half-past nine the house adjourned to Monday. LIST OF THE MINORITY Of 62. who supported Mr. Huine's Resolution. "That it Is expedient to inquire whether the present Church Este- ! blishment of Ireland be not more than commensurate to the services to be performed, both as regards the number of persons employed, and the incomes they receive; and, if so, whether a reduction of the same should nut take place, with due regard to ail existing interests." S. M. Barrett, W. W. Becer, Hon. 11. G. Bennet, R. Benyon, J. Birch, J. H. Calcraft, Hon. G. Campbell, C. S. Carew, Hon. H. Caulfield. Viscount Clifton. N. W. R. Col borne, T. Creevey, Cot Cradock, T. Davies, Sir S. W. De Crespigny, T. Denman, Vie. Ebrington, G. J. W. A. Ellis, A. Farquharson, Sir R. Fergussen, Lord W. C. Fitzgerald, M. Fitzgerald, Vie. Glenorchy, J. Grattan, J. W. Griffith, Lord A. I lawitton, J. C. Hothouse, lion. C.ll. Hutchinson, W. P. Hollywood, W. James, J. G. Lambton, R. Leyeester, J. Macdonald, S. Majoribanks. J. Niartin, Sir W. Maxwell, Vis. Normanby, C. Palmer, C. F. Palmer, G. Philips, men. (4. H. Philips, . jun. R. Power, R. Price. P. Pryer, J. C. Ramsdell, D. Ricardo, A. W. Robarts, G.J. Roberts, Sir G. Robinson. Earl of Sefton. J. Smith, G. Smin, W. Smith. W. Stewart, M. A. Taylor, Mar. Titchfield, E. Webb. L. White, White, Sir R. Wilson, M. Wood, M. Wyvill.— Tellers—J. Hume, J. B. Monck. A LIST OF THE MINORITY Of 39 who voted with Mr. Hume on Monday, the 3d inst., " That in the opinion of the Committee it is in expedient. in the present circumstances of the country. to maintain the whole of the real Sinking Fund of £3,000,000; and that it will afford an immediate relief I to the country, to repeal taxes to the amount of L'2.(:00,004 thereof." J. H. Allen, R. Bernard, 11. Bright, J. Calcraft. %V. Chamberlayne, 'C. Creevey, Col. Cradock, T. H. Davies, Sir %V. De Crespigny,. T. Denman, W. Dickinson, E. El lice, Vis. Glenorc'iy. J. Grattan. J. W. Griffith, Lord A. Hamilton. J. C. lioblinuse. J. Hume, W. James, lion. G. Lamb. T. R. Leonard, R. Leycester, S. Lushington. J. Maxwell, J. R. Monet:. P. Nloore, S. O'Grady, J. C. Pel ham. G. H. Philips, W. S. Poyntz, R. Pike. P. Prvae, D. Ricardo, A. W. Roberts, Sir G. Robinson. R. W. Tal bot, Right lion. G.Tierney, Col. White, 31. Wood, Tel ' ler, Hon. 11. G. Bennet. MAJORITY.—of 110. Sir T. D. Ackland. J. D. Alexander, J. Alexandee, Lord Apsley. Right Hen. C. Arbuthnot. Right lion. W. Bag well. Coi. J. B:dine. H. Bankes. W. J. Bankes. Hon. S. , T. Bathurst, Lord Binning, Earl B recknock. J. Browne . J. Buchanan, J. F. Buxton, A. B wing, W. W. Becher, ' J. Calvert. A. Campbell, Right Hon. G. Cannintr, E. M. I Chem*. G. 11. Cherry, Sir G. Clerk, Sir G. Cockburn, R. R. Cooper, P. Corbett, T. P. Courtenay, W. Courteoav, ' D. Davenport, J. Daly, J. Dawkins, Sir C. Doraville, J. , E. Dowdeswell, C. R. Ellis, W. Evans, J. Faoe, C. Forbes, jW. H. Freemantli, Sir R. Gifford, D.-G. Gilbert, J, Glad. stone, ,11.Goulbogra i ) A. C. Grant, G. M. Grant, P. Gren fell; •-• Herries, H.glandley, Sir 11. Iliftlinge, R. Heber, W. Ilecgato, Right lion. Sir G. T. Hill. G. P. ilolford, Sir A. Hope, Lord Hotham, W. Holmes, Hight lion. W. Iluskisson, J. Jones, Hon. 11. King, lion. T. Knox, lion. H. Legge, E. P. Leslie, E. J. Littleton, Right Hon. Sir C. Long, S. R. Lushington, J. F. Luttrell, J. Mansaeld, J. Martin, Sir T. B. Martin, J. W. Maxwell, Sir W. Mat *ell, H. Monteith, Sir S. B. Morland, Sir T. W. Mack euzie, Sir M. Nightingale, M. Nolan, Sir G. Nugent, Sir F. M. Gwaltney, A. Onslow. Sir J. Osborn, Sir H. Par nell, Lord Palmerston, Rt. lion. R. Peel. J. Philtinsore„ lion. E. Phipps, J. Pitt, J. Plummer, Sir W. Rae, llor; O. Rice. A. Itohertsoo, Right Hon. F. Robinson, C. Ross, Sir G. Shiner. Rt. it. T. Skellington, Lord 0. Somer set, Rt. Hon. Sir J. Stewart, J. Smith, G. Smith, w. Stu art (Armagh) W. Thompson, H. Twiss, A. Tulk, Viscount Valletort. G. G. V. Vernon, R. Ward, Hon. J. Walpole, 11..1 Wilmot, Sir IL W. Wilson, T. Wilum, T. Wood, C. W. Wynn, W. W. Whitmore. MAILS. ARR. DUE. ARR. rott7.. o....Dnblin I 0. —Holland v, 0....Waterf0rd.....2 0....11ambr0 I 0....6 & Jersey. • • . I 2.... France 0 U.... Lisbon 0 5.... Flanders .......0 o....Gottenburg 1 U. ...Malta PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK 1 Dittoindia Stock ..5. Ws 23s.plr Bank stock 3 per Ct. Red 3 par Cl. Coos .........7g i 1 south Sea Stock 3.f per Cl. 1 South See Old Ann... 4 per Cents ........ ..... New Fours 6 per Ct. 1797.. - -SOOT. 111 91 Illspin. Long Ann. -Small 11595114 pis Imp. 3 per Ct.... .. 1 Con.for acct. 73 iti Irish 6 per Cents I Lottery Ticksts .... tiL lb.' vAte *tataOlnalt• SATURDAY EVENING. MARCH S, DINNER FIGHTING. Yesterday took place, at the City of London Tavern, the grand Dinner Fight in defeni e of Spain and Port.. gal against the French armies. The feats of pot-ratour are very well known to be surprizing ; and particular in the City of London; and greater valour of this sort we do not recollect to have seen displayed titan, according to the account in the morning papers, appears to have been displayed at the City of London Tavern yesterday. However, no declaration of war with swords and I, at lets took place; nor did any of the parties venture to say, or to hint, that this country would do any thing more for Spain and Portugal than drink most bravely to their success. Much these was about French aggression; much about the horrid principle of interference ; much about civil and religious liberty all over the florid ; mach about the unanimity of the people of England in their prayers for the success of Spain ; but not one sine.: word about fleets, armies, Fowder, or bail to be employe in defence of Spain. If the Spanish Ambassador under stood the real meaning of the parties as well as we do, and also the real state of the country, he would derive little consolation from the pre! tle that beheard yesterday: and especially when be should have con pared it with *bat was taking place in the Houle of Commons ett Ms same time, and of which we shall speak by and by. This dinner was looked upon as a sort of trial of strength between those who are for war and those who are for neutrality. And we find that even the . woman!, and even over their pots, did not dare to utter one i.ingle word expressive even Of a wish that England should embark in this war. If, therefore, the opinions and wishes of the people of England are desired to have any weight with the French, this dinner will have (lore the Spaniards a great deal of mischief; a great deal, in deed ; because it shows, that their friends, as they call themselves, and those friends well stuffed with turtle and well charged with wine, dared not talk of war.—This is the main point ; but several things took place worthy of notice.—The Maripiesf. of Lansdowne, in reprobating the principle of interftrcnce, went so far as to say. that the interfere= of foreign nations ought to be re sisted by any people under any circumstances. He sail, that however great might be the abuses existing in any country, the peopLt of such country ought to fight for that tyranny and oppression, rather than suffer a foreign power to interfere. If the noble marquess did say this, we suspect that the 'truffle most have gone round pretty swiftly; for he cannot have forgotteu, that a Dutch army landed in England; that it fought with some Eng lishmen, at ally rate ; and that the result was the driving out of one reigning family and introducing an-rther; and that this event is, to this very day, celebrated as A glorious revolution. The :with! Marquess bad, too, pet haps, forgotten the princi pies promulgated in 1811; pro mulgated by the Congress at Vienna, and also by tl:e English Parliament. Ile mucthavt forvttt n, that upon no other principle %chafe-. er was Boon:Tarte met and fought al Waterloo. However, of tiiis we have some thing snore to say by-and-by. Upon the to ist " the City of London and its commercial prosperity" being giver, Mr. A. Baring addressed the company, and concluded with toasting "the eetension of commerce." Mr. Baring desired the foreigners present to look at the noble spec tacle which that company then presented. Nobles, he said, mixing familiarly with the commercial and brier trious c:uises! We wish Mr. Baring had defined a lilt's what he meant by industrious ; becausst the Fr.mch rail Thieves in general, and particularly Thieves of the worst description, Chereiers d'industrie ; that is toes', In lostriotts Knights; and in this souse, we have no ob jection to apply the r?ithet iitinstrinvA to that class which is, and, to the disgrace and ruin of this long has been engaged in the mak of stock jobbing of vari..us descriptions. The lam &nominates stock job bing to be infamous. The law ;knurls a heavy punish meet to the int:stenos offence; the law declares stock job bing to be fraudulent ; to he destructive of the morals of the people,—and particularly to be ch• structive to industry ;—but in spite of this la t*, there are,—every day of the week, except Sundays, assembled together on a spot not many hundred rale (ions that on which Mr. Baring was speaking, froth ten to twenty thousand of the greatest villains that Goo ever suffered to pollute the earth, eazageil in carrying on th:s infamous practice to the inexpressible injury of the n . Lion, and the shame of the government. it was, we rather suspect, from this horrid band that curse the greater part of those of the industrious dosses, that the poor deceived Spanish ;Ili: inter now assembled around him. • And if be knew how false, how nerfiiiion, bow selfish, how base a baud it is, little satisfaction, in- P 1 TT , ' IN a