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be now, fur the first time in his political life, differed with his Nubile Friend near him (Lord Grenville). He thought that it was impncsible to give to the sort of testimony pro duced, the t fleet of 'a legal proof of guilt. It was hilt too true that persons in a royal station might be guilty of Im proprieties, and even tu nics; but lie bail always enderstorel is to he the wisest polies , to keep them as intich cone:mice as possible! He was conviiiced that much mischief had been done by this inquiry to the interests of the Monarchy; he Loped that it was not yet quite irreparable; it was still in tin it power to do much towards that desirable object, by finally rejecting the Bill; and he for one could not in his conscience give his vote otherwise.—[His Lordship spoke in so low a tone as to be almost inaudible at the Bar : and it was with difficulty We could collect what he said. The above we believe to be the substance of his speech.) The Duke of BEDFORD said that, in his opinion, the measure was one which, to use the emphatic words of ano ther branch of the Legislature, " was derogatory to the.' honour of the Crown, and injurious to the best interests of the country." He did nut cote on the Divorce Clause, be cause he could not conscientiously vote upon it unbint thinking the Queen guilty. It bad given him great asto nishment to sec Ministers supporting the omission of the Clause, consenting to the castration of their own measure, depriving it of the only feature which gave it the semblance of rationality. Ile did not mean to go in detail into the evidence, but he could not, however, help offering a few remarks on some parts of the proceeding. A Noble Earl opposite (Lord Liverpool) had commented on the evidence in a manner which had given him great surprise. lie had assumed some of the most important facts of the case as proved solely by the testimony of that pure and immacu late witness De Mont. ll' had ventured to say, that she was in one instance supports d by Dr Holland, but on the iniautes of evidence being referred to no sect, corroboration appeared. A Noble Lord on the cross-bench (Lord Lau derdale) had, equally to his astonishment, commented on the evidence in a similar style, assuming facts to be con firmed by the evidence for the defence, which depended only on the unsupported evidence for the prosecution. There was another circumstance which he could not help adverting to. The Noble Earl opposite (Lord Liverpool) bad commented with what lie conceived a most nrisplai ed severity on the conduct of her Majesty hi acting the part of an Automaton. Nothing was more common than fur persons in the higher situations to represent characters iii ancient ur modern history, or the Gods and Goddesses of fabulous story ; he had known it dotie by personages than whom the Princess of Wales was nut more exalted in rank, •nil whose chat acter the breath ul calumny had never dared to assail. The truth was, every thing that could in any way be turned to the discredit of her Majesty was nettle Use of to effect the purposes of this Bill, without any re gard either to their justice or probability. He would ask their Lordships, how the character of Queen Elizabeth "mild have stood?—where the glory of her Is len would have been ? if she bail been infected as the Princess of p il ules had beer., by spies and informers ? His Grace eon eluded by declaring, that if called upon, in his judicial character, to give a verdict. on the evidence which had been piodueed, he nitist say " Not Guilty, 00 my honour and conscience !" and, if asked for his opinion as a Legis lator," that the Till was as impolitic as it w as !" The LORD CHANCELLOR.—" My Lords, at an early stage of these proceedings, the second reading, 1 stated, that it appeared to tne utterly impossible that any mail could vote for the second reading who was not convinced, not on moral conviction, butt on legal evidence, that her Alaiesty was guilty. I did not state any thing as to the po licy or expediency of the measure; but I said it was still comp* tent to your Lordships, if convinced that the sub etantial charge had been proved, that you might alter the preamble so as to include all that you believed had been proved, and rejecting all that you believed not proved by legal evidence. I also stated that the enactment of the might be altered. It was, therefore, tor y our I oril ships to decide whether the Divorce Clause should continue a part of the Bill or not. The Learned Lord bete pro ceeded to argue at great length in favour of the Bill, and concluded by saying, 1 feel gratified, and so I am sure will your Lordships, that I ens now going to titter my last words on this great and melancholy question. If I feel that the Gutlt of the Queen bar been proved by legal evidence, I shall act accordingly; but if I was not so convinced, Ito earthly consideration should induce ire to vote fo.• the third reading; but after hearing all the et idence, and devoting Cs cry attention in my power to the subject, I cannot con scientiously but vote for the third reading of the Bill. The Bishop of CHESTER rose to state, that lie had voted for the second reading of the Hill upon the full conviction that her !Majesty was guilty of the crime imputed to her, which had been proved by circunistatitial evidence of the strongest nature. Certainly the evidence had been tits mote than circainstantial; but if the Queen wilt; itittocent, her innocence was eccompaitied with seelt corrobetaids a guilt as never had been heard of in the antials nt history. It was from a moral view of the question that he was induced to vote for the second wading of the Bill, but it would be recollected that he had decidedly given his opinion and Isis vote against the Divorce Clause. This lie had &rue because lie cunsidered that Clause contrary to all established usages, and opposed to the Div ine Precept. Notting could he more abhorrent from his mind that; the idea of performing any act which could tend to degrade his Sovereign ; " and it is," the Rev. Prelate said, " v ith horror I htattl it stated by a Nohle lord (Grosvenor), that if he vvas the Ai eh bishop of Canterbury, and lvid been requested by his Ma :testy to omit the Queen's name in the Liturgy, be would throw the Prayer-hook in his Majesty's face." The Learned Prelate then declared, that as he could not conrcientiously vote against the Bill, being clearly of opinion that her Ma jesty was guilty, and as lie conk' not consistently vote for tht Divorce Clause, his imp' ession with respect to that Clause remaining unchanged, he should withdraw himself from the I louse, and give no vote one way os the other.— (A long li, and cries "Hu ar, hear!" and " Orik r !") Earl G ROSVENOR said, it was impossible not to tres pass ill their Lordships to take notiee of v. hat had fallen trent the Le:tined Prelate. If he recollected right, be had !laced what was supposed to have passed between his Ma jesty mid his el iiiistet s—that there had been rumours, which wire . fost ere d by Mi n i sters, t h at t h e King had been the math cause of the agitation of the question, and that his Majesty Lad pri•posed the timissiou of the Queen's moue in the Liturgy himself. lie (Len! ) had distinctly stated, that such rumours tended to thiow odium and euntempt upon the Crowd, and were in every respect nicked and ia yarious; er d he admitted that he hail tleclaied, tliet if he were in the place of an Archbishop of Canter but v, to eisuen such I prikosition was wade, he &hyoid out licsitate to THE RATIONAL REGISTER throw aside punctilio in the manner alluded to. (Hear, hear). He acknowledged that he had also slated, that if he was a Minister, he aould sooner trample gimlet foot tle; seals of ellice than ititroduce a measure Cu obnoxious ! (Hear, hear, hear.) Ile should say no mote in auswer to the censorious comments of the Learned Prelate, than de elate, that every tiling he heard more aid inure convinced him of the impropriety—the absurdity of the n:ea•urc-- (Loud cries of " Question!" when the Noble Lord sat down.) Lind ERSKINE took the opportunity to notice the ar gument of the Noble Lord on the lA'oulsack, which was grounded on the case of the murder( d man. The circum stances stated were certainly a strorg prestimptiuti of guilt, but he begged to know what the slut y would have thought I I if the person brought forward to prove the murder, hail de clared in Court, that he hail seen neither the bloody knife nor the murdered man?—(Hear, hear, hear.)--This was the ease to which the present indeed might be compared, for lie must assert that so complete a contradiction to the statement of the Attorney-General had river been given, than that wli.ch appeated all through the evidence fur the prosecution, from tile mouths of the witnesses, nut wily in cross-esatiettiabon, hilt in the direct examitiation of all the evidence.—( I Tear, hear). The Duke el GRAFTON said, that after having looked with the greatest attention to the evidence for the Pill, and particularly to that of Majucclii and De Mont, he must, upon his honour and conscience, say, "Nut Guilty."— (Loud cries of Mar, hear). The Marquis of HUNTLEY said he wan as decidedly convinced of the Queen's guilt, as the Noble Duke seemed to he convinced of her innocence.—His Lordship was de termined not to give a silent tote, notwithstanding the threats held out by Counsel at that Bar. The Marquis of DONEGAL said, them were some pow erful contradictions to be found in the most essential parts of the evidence. His vote should be against the Bill, as a measure injurious to all parties, as well as to the best in terests of the nation. The Bishop of Li LOUCESTrit said, the !louse not having separated that most objectionable Clause trout the Bill, he was compelled, by his conscientious feelings, to vote against the third readiag of the Bill. (II mad cries of Hear). lie re gretted to be obliged to °mime many of duise with whom he usually voted; but he was convinced tiutt cowisteuey uf con duct was the best security against misrepresentution.—(lhear.) ard DA in\ LEY could not let the 41twstion go to their I it d , hips, without appealing to those w hohad before wavered in their opinions a, to Um guilt of her Majesty, to stand be tween Ministers and rain! The muss of the Cu oats of England would, he was convinced, resist, with all their fora•. this iniquitous Bill, and other nations would view the conduct of the Upper Muse of Parliament with the deepest emitempt. Here there were loud cries of "Question"—Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. At t‘enty minutes iwst one o'clock the Ilouse divided on the question, that this Lill be now mid a third time : CONTENTS NON-CONTENTS ••••••m• Majority fur tht Third Reading As soon as the maubers were at 1111 l towed, Lord DACIIE rose amid very vehement cries of "Order," and ns surto as the Peers had taken their seats, lie observed, that he had been intrusted with a petition from het Alajesty, pray big to be heard by counsel against the passing of the bill. (Much cheering.) Lord LIVERPOOL, on the question that the Bill do pass, declared his conviction of the Queen's guilt; yet, with a majority so small. and feeling how difficult it would be to im press conviction on the ptMlic mind, he should feel it his duty lu propose, that the further proceedings on this Bill should he postponed until this (lay six months. ('Flue must cehtnteut cliceriog took place at this um:trete/I declaration.) Earl (..iItEA rose as soon as the Earl of Liverpool had re sumed his seat, but the confusioa did not subside Wild after his lordship h a d been for some time on his legs. liis lordship complained of the whole mouse ministers had pursued with regard to the bill, which, after the declaration of the noble earl, could scarcely be said to be bt fore the house, but which was still before the country, and would long live in its memory. (Hear). Ile charged the servauts of the crown with the grossest neglect of duty, in the first instance, in listening only to crporte evidence, mid giving a willing credence to the most evargeertited and unfutintleil calumnies. (Loud cheers.) They had thus for many months twit:tied the nation—they had produced a general stagnation of public rend private business— and tiny haul given a most faxottrable opportunity, were it desired, to the enemies of internal peace and tranquillity. They had hurt ray ed their King, insulted their (pleen, (con- Cooed erica of hear front all sales), and had given a shock to the al, of society by the promulgation of the detestable nod disgusting centrism, in the bearing of which the house had been so long occupied. (]fear.) His lordship also repro- I attal in the severest terms the conduct of the Ilitan commis sioners, alto having been appointed, not to investigate truth, but to obtain testimony of guilt, had found in this count.) but t,o great an hiclination to put faith in all the stories their agents and *inn ses might invent against the honour and re putation of the Queen of Great Britaut. Ihe result had been that, alter itiquitit 5. seet . et and open—after the grossest mi lli:tut:et and the foulest wls laid been made the subject of detail and dehate Mr :id days—after all the injury that it sits possible to do the Queen had been accomplished, the bill was abatelotted, nut without teaslit, but assuredly without apology. Ids lordship concluded by assuring ruble lords on the other side, that the prople of tireat Britain would not he satisfied with the mere witherawing of the inewme, but w ould de mand a strict inetary into its fUlilitL4iiUll 1111t1 origin. (Orrin , eiweriug,) lord I:RSIiINE followed Earl Grey, and expressed the delight he f that, after all that b a d been threatened and pe.turined, lw had set at Icngiln lived to su e justice—tartly aad relactant justice—done to the Queen. It was the victory of right and inetticetwe user w thug and malignity. Ile bad spent much of his lite in courts of justice, nod he had often witnessed the triumph of the lass,but never so gloriously 4slglthe rest tit eetasion— the triumph of that law of which Ilts.ker, in his Vccicviastical l'aity, said, "Of Law tluire can be 1111 It'sS ac knowledged than that her seal is slur bosom id (iud, :we voice the haniatny of the amid. All things in lica en and on catth du her homage; the very least as feeling her cure, 111111 the greatest as not exempted from her power. Ituth Imp Is and men, and creatures of what condition seever, though uhcli in different tort and rammer, yet all with anthem conwitt atdnrir illg 11l r its the her Ili their peace and joy." (Bear, lie tr.) lite Duke of 1 11ONTROSE took the typos Inutity of stating that his conviction of the criminality of her Majesty was lanai: ten it, and that Lot one, be should ticker luck up to her as his Qutt n. 367 The question was then put from the woolsack, on the mo tion of the Earl of LI VF.N POOL that the question " that this hill do piss" be put on this day six months. It was carried wenrine contruelico nte, and alinim by artlanialion. Order having heel' once more re-establi,hed, the Earl of Live It ig) , /f, aimed that the Ilouse should adjourn until the 23d of November, that day on which the Commons meet. It was also carried, and their Lordships immediately separated. CONIENT4 ON THE THIR D R E•DING. Duxes.—York, Clarence, Beaufort, Newcastle, Rutland, Wellington, and Nurthotoulmorlaud. t isss Cony A nglesea, Caliph to, Nor thampton, Exeter, Jleadfurt, Cornwallis, Buckingham, Lo thiao, Clomensberty, and Wincla stet.. 1:1n1.5.--St.Gertuains, Whitworth, Yendaso, Cathcart, Midway e, Orford, Nl:lowers, Rosse, Nelson, l'ow is, Limerick, Diniaugh more, Belmore, Maya, Longford, Mount-Cashel. Kingston, Liverpool, Dighy, .Mount-Falgeconob, Strange, (Athol) Abergarenny, Ailesboiry, Bathurst, Chatham, Har court and West onorland, C. P. S. VI .COU Nrs.—ENlnutith, Lake, Sidmouth, Melville,-Cur zon, Sydney, and Hereford. lt. B oiszs —Harris, Russ (Glasgow), Meidrum (Aboyne) Hill, Coant.eronere, Hopetauts, Manners, Ailsa • (Cassilis), Lauderdale, Sheiliehl, Redesdale, St. Helens, Noo thwick, Bolton, Carrington, De Dintstameiile, ROll9, Saltersford (Courtowill, Stewart (Galloway), Stewart (Moray), Douglas (Alm foto), Grenville, Suffield, Itlontagu, Gordon (Huntley), Somers, Rodney, 'Middleton, Napier, Colville, Gray, Sal twin, Forbes and F.lolon. A nen Rl9lloP.—Canterbury. lit su a tis.—Cark and Ross, Llandaff. Peterhorough, F' St. David's, Worcester, St. Asaph, and Landon. NON-CONTENTS. KEs —Portland, Brandon, Devonshire', Berk - - ton, Richmond, Somerset, and Gloucester. Ala it u ss s.—Path, Stallitrd, and lur EA i.s.—Allwmiiiie, Blesington, Bradt. Grey, Go.ford, Itonitley, Roslyn. Caluo Girrick, Citiootson, AllatiAchl (Dounshirt . ), tirtc•venor, 1)e Lae• Fit-milli:on, Portsmouth, St Oxford, Ito‘rbert, Jersey, Es" and De. by. VtsrnuxTs--Anwnt, (i f Torrington, Falmouth, an BA ItO I UM Ils dir, Caltliorttp, Dawn selsea, Mendip (Clio (1)onektl), Amherst, 1 horton, Itagot, W 4lSin ith_e (.Irg II), Dos Grantham, King, 11.4 Scle, Howard, 1)e k De Clithird. Auctintstiors.—Y 13,5it0p--Cilmesto Couteuts 10t1 I No FROM T (.71 J. Wright, senior, art Solicitor, Mr. Patu.n, Hatton Gana G. Trent, Botirum, Dorset, malts."... and Dixon, St. Switiiin's I.anc. F. W. Wragge, Gliatcmter, dealer. Si.JA Ilraikemidge, Bartlett's Huild;ngs, Ilolbern. J. C. Scawimi and F. Grosjean, Soho &pr.:re, harp turcrs. Sol% 3/emi,. Jones and liland, Great Marylehone Sta.. P. Watkins, Bri,tol, oilman. Sols 3lessrs. llurd and John. • son, Tenip!e. T. Wt.:Ali-en, Andover, Soutlunoton, linen draper. Soli. - Atessrs. lire:midges and Iltirtn, Dyer's Buildings, I lolborn. T. Atitby, East Street, Alaneliester square, baker. Sols. Ale,:srs. !hates and Wilson, Lincoln's Inn Fields. W. Cooper, Fleet Market, linen draper. Sols. Messrs. Dares and Chunield„ Angel Court, Throginorron Street. J. kenwortity, Saddleworth, Yorkshire, oyer. Sol. Mr. Bat tyc, Chancery Lane. W. Fromow, Great Yarmouth, druggist. Sols. Messrs. Pools and Grectilield, (ray's Inn Square. W. Yates, Manchester, cotton twist and weft dealer. Sols. Messrs. Ali'ne and Parry, Temple. A. IVilkinson, Liverpool, wine merchant. Sols. Messrs. lilackstotk and Bunce, Temple. S. Trthaue, Exeter, silversmith. Sul. Mr. Brutton, Old Broad Street. T. Noais, Bi,hor.-tone, Wilts, shoemaker. Sots. Messrs Milieu and Co. Alitlua: Temple Lane. DIVIDEND:. Nov. 2S, 11. and .1. Doilsen, Three 'fun Court, Southwark, • hop trietors-28, It. Coilens, Maidstone, hop dealer -2A, T. Phillips, Bread Street Hill, niercharit—•:B, 1. Lianas, White I Lorse Inn, Fetter Lane, tavern keeper-13, J. Ilturnion, Lincolnyldrc, timber niereliant-28, Holmes, .1. Harris, and J. D. English, Long Acre, coaeliniakers-14, J. Townsend. Ludgate Street, warehouseman-29, E. New. Bristol, banker -28, H. Buckton, Jentiyii Street, St. James's, working jeweller 2H, NVard, Maiden Lane, liattlebuilhe, mustard menu. fact urer—l 4, F. fotlionier, Corporation How, Clerkenwell, distiller-28, it. Callen and J. Pears, Cheapside, lactors—t9, T. W. and T. Gardiner, Leicester, hosiers-28. C. ShoLeidge, liensing,ton. draper-2;4, W. lii , litou, St. Peter's Hill. what., bone wereilant—Dee. I. E. M. Carey, Liverpcol, merchant—', 11. Deaver, Liverpool, ineichant-2, I'. Evans, Cross Street, Goswell S , trect, brandy merchant -2, J. ll.mcock, Lirnehoir.e. Hole Stairs, mast maker -4, W. Mole, Worcester, and Lockett, Hcretiard, carriers--i 6, J. Wilson, Old Broad Street, .merchant-20, C. Evans and Sir J. Jett; knight, Gioneester, bankers-13. %V. 14 otyer.'renbt:ry, Worcestershire, nialtster. CE url FICA'fES to be granted Nov. 21. E. Crabb, Beckington, Somersetshire, clot:her—W. Parks:. Birmingham, lime dealer—T. Summer:told, Bristol, iron tounder —J. Greaves, Queriihill. Vorks!irre, fancy cloth maotd'acturers— .l. Cook, 11.11usly, YorkAire, itivreinart—f. Russian, Bath, marchalit. The Rev. A. C. 14:11en, Rector of %Vona.= Mon. timer, Essex, ut his late tithe niekting, took only at tke rate of (is. no acreolthough be had, by the coinp mon assent of his parishion , :rs, been accustomed to receive 7s. We hope that this liberal example will le fuliowed by those who have it in their power, by individual sacrifice, to relieve the td:nrese,:nfinany. !Jr. Joint laic, of Richmond, rraluced in the Ina&Let ,a'Saturary last, for sale, a Scotch cabbage, weighing 471bs. and coveting r :Taw of live feet. - 11111.11111111=miliimila _ .. .A-.m..... .FrL; , - iimE4le-' 41h