The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-06-01 00:00:00

•-••• f r om one of peisciple form of Government the greatest difficulty bounds the influence of 'riend had very properly been passed at various Crown, and be could Acts k i n , more venera- The early Acts had power of the Crown, to pass others since. obvious than In the there were no less than House—a number so ptepos - duties of the Govern iistered, or the liberties of independence •f Parliament pre • so constituted. Under lid be no doubt that , were very necessary. hen there were fewer 'Hear, hear.) There was, whether the effect require a Bill brought t• Gentleman had ad questions the votes had sly of placemen. But the votes of that Sea- Ities on this and that a certain number of fould go to the exclusion contrary to his lion. that the system of car anent in that House, in :h animadverted upon ; , one that countenanced thought the Government carried on according to a , and be swayed by the sly, if hey were bound anourable ties than mere not shrink from confess •iments on this subject, with which they would le thought an adminis• mons not so bound to• ol of office, would be too s an Administration of and said, that that House • nor the good opinion He also stated, that he duty to oppose the pre. cat he had done his duty lohinson) gave him full assertion, he knew him too from other motives ; but ie would give him credit ._-(Dear, hear.) Because qmsed to the feeling of the • be stigmatised as having No Government could go every variation of pub not resolution to look at it bad to deal with, alto. popular feeling of the mo- 1 with every passing winl.-1 ►f the Crown over Parlia; Influence of public opinion resent.—(finny.) lie was is opinion in tills country had not power to resist 'hat would be said if the but he hoped lion. Mew to assent to it on that ac would only tend to destroy luence of the Crown in a )n, which the philosophers age had never found it le in any form of Govern- that it war impossible for Mate of that House and not Crown was now greater There was no profession was not felt in some degree. sanctioned by parliament by which was to be found in with the opinions of the , ngest objection to the influ. House. If a member were Lcular accusation, he made his • did nut placemen act on the From the 3.1 report of the •ouhl be seen that a sum of \ted in pensions and %operas. and Ireland, exclusirele of ‘I, and o ffi cial pensi on 4. This to 496,277:. Did not luence for the Crown without in parliament? Ile entreated any regard for popular feel moderate, wholesome, and constits. .form which his Hon. Friend's' tcti, and the numbers were — at, 53—Against it, 76--Majo- WRY. Sir J.tmss blarnixTosti, .vent other Members were abut vg unexpectedly taken place. to the gallery we found !Ring leave to bring in a bill concerning navy old stores and im- ARK ELECTIONS. to move for leave to bring in a taking of the Poll at contested County of York. The Noble Lord though be had been induced to bring in moment, it was not in consm arrangement made with respect to the • the Orampound Disfranchisement bad lung been turned to the sub save brought the measure forward, to which be alluded had never was to open booths for receiving parts of the county, so that four superiatendance of officers appointed might proceed at the same time. He the principal regulations which the consideration of the House. gives to the officers appointed under other matters of detail, and finished to king is the Bill LONDUNDIVItitY did not rise to • likctions, authorising, as it did, Irrying the greater part of the polling remotp from the per sonal observation of the Sheriff, rimier whose snperin tendanre the elections were to take place. At prevent g , though in one part of the kingdom differtnt bnoth were erected for the convenience of polling, one bo th was reserved for the Sheriff, to whom all disputed votes were referred. After a few words from Lord Hotbam, Mr. S. Wort ley, and Mr. Beaumont, leave was given to bring in the 13111. et.ovitit SEED. Colonel DAVIES brongbt up the Report from the Committee appointed to iuquire into the alleged adul teration of Clover Seel, which declared it to be the opinion of the Committee that the practice of adul terating clover seed existed to a very considerable ex tent in this country. Lord MILTON brought in the Bill for facilitating the taking of the poll in cases of contested Election in the county of York.—ltead a first, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday. FORGERY PUNISHMENT BILL. Sir J. MACKINTOSH wished to move that the Re port of the Forgery Punishment Mitigation Bill should be taken into consideration, as be was anxious that the measure 'book' be disposed of beforethe advanced period of the Session could be considered as forming an objection to the passing of the Bill. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY would b e happy to give way to the lion. and Learned Gentleman; but from the superior importance of the business which stood for to-morrow, he hoped the Hon. Gent. would not press this subject at the present moment. He must he aware of the notice which had been given by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and the Budget would he brought forward under uovel circumstances if his Right Hun. Friend were to enter on his g eneral statement of the Ways and Means of the Country when the Supplies hail been voted in the Committee. but not reported to the House. Ile (the Marquess Londonderry) shonld have no objection to the Itep , wt being agreed to now, and the debate taken on the third reading of the Bill, if the Hon. and Learned Gentleman would consent to such an arrancement. As the Chancellor of the Exchequer must open his Budget to-morrow, and coull not do it consistent with the or dinary practice of the House till the Report of the Supplies hail been agreed to, lie trusted the Hon. Gent. would be willing to take the course that he had sug- nested. Sir J. MACKINTOSH would be willing to give way so the debate could be taken on the third reading, under such circumstances that the Bill could be fully discussed, hut being in possession of the House, and many Gentlemen being present who were desirous of assisting at the discussion, lie could only consent to the postponement on such an understanding. Ile wished to state to the House the amendments he pro posed to move. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said, if the lion. and Learned Gentleman was about to open his amendments now, he must object to it. and a question might then arise whether Iris Order of the Day ought first to be taken by the house. The amendments niov •ii, a debate would arise which could lead to no practical re sult, and be therefore should feel it to be his duty to take the sense of the House against such a proceeding. If the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had any argu ments to offer why his Order of the Day slionlil be taken first, this might be the most convenient moment for submitting them to the House. Mr. ELLIS wished to know if the Hon. and Learned Gentleman proposed taking the debate on the third reading of the Rill. Sir J. MACKINTOSH wished, if the House agreed to the Report pro forms now, to move several new clauses pro forma. Ile then svished to have the Bill reprinted, as amended, and proposed to take the de bate on the third reading, which he intended to fix for Monday. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said, it could be fixed for Monday, and subsequently postponed if that should appear necessary. Sir J. MACKIN I*OSII stated his first Amendment to be merely verbal ; his next went to alter the pream ble of the Bill ; the other Amendments which he had to introduce related either to exceptions or exclusion from the exceptions. Ile meant to propose that the forging of country bank notes, as suggested by an Honourable Member opposite. should be added to the exceptions, sad left open to capital punishment. lie meant to exclude the forge-', ries on the private stock of the Bank from the excep tions, distinguishing that from their public stock, and placing it en the same footing with all other private property in the country. Ile proposed to do away the punishment of transportation in cases of forgery altogether, and to distinguish the crime of forgery from others, by making the punishment for the first offence ten years' confinement, with hard labour; and. in cases of uttering, lie wouLl give a discretionary power to imprison the offender from six to ten years. An lion. Masora enquired, if it was intended to include the forging of Bankers' Checks in town and country in the exceptions ? Sir J. MACKINTOSH replied, that .it was his intention to allow the exceptions to extend to the cir culating currency of the country, and no other paper whatever. The Mastscn who hail asked the question. said he must oppose the Rill. I The SPEAKER suggested, that the shortest and best way of amending the Bill, would be to recommit it. for the pnrpose of receiving the new clauses. 1 Sir J. MACKINTOSH would wish that the Bill should be recommitted for that purpose. The motion was agreed to. The House then resolved itself into a Committee, in which the Clauses were moved and agreed to. The House then resumed, and the Report was re ceived. and the Bill ordered to be read a third time on Monday. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL protested argot its being inferred that he approved of the Bill, Mips his having suffered it to pass this stage without or position. Mr. CIIRTWYKI) said the Bill woold meet wids NO' inveterate opposition. Sir J. MACKINTOSH hoped the iovetersto opposi dos of the Hon.Uent. would mot Wood to the laroosies LONDONDERRY was sorry to - and Learned Gentleman, but eimr . ged as be was ith aa important duty, he must object to going through the whole series of these measures. Sir J. MACKINTOSH would give way with respect to the Dwelling House Robbery Bill, but be appre hended there would be no objection to carrying this through tie COrosnittee. The SOLICITOR -GENERAL thought the two Bills might as well be committed on the same day. The ATTORNEY -GENERAL had a decided ob jection to the present Bill, and did not sec that there Icould be any serious ob stacles in the way of post poning the Committees o n both Bills till Monday, in order to facilitate the dispatch of the public bn- sines'. Mr. F. BUXTON wished to know if these measures were not to he regarded as forming a part of the public business of the Country.—(Hear, hear.)—lle would ask if the consideration of life or death—of the in crease or decrease of crime was not to he viewed as equally important with measures of finance.—(l l ear , hear.) Mr. ARBUTHNOT appealed to the courtesy of the Learned Gent'entail, if it would not be well to give way on this o Tasion. Lord MILTON wished to know if the Gentlemen opposite won't! engage the Crown should not prorogue the Parliament till these Bills hsd passed. lie knew the Parliament would not be prorogued till the Sup plies were voted ; but he did not know that the pro rogation would not take place before these Bills could pass. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY moved as an amendment that the report of the Committee of Supply should be taken into further consideration. Sir .1. MACKINTOSH wished to know if he were in possession of the House. The SPEAK ER stated the motion which hail been made and the a mendunitt. The SIILICI I ORGENERAL said, that on that side of the House there was every disposition to act with the most perfect candour. Ni obstruction was intended to be thrown in the way of the Learned Gen tleman's Bills. Sir J. :MACKINTOSH consented to put off both the Bills till Monday, and the Conimittees on the two Bills were accordingly postponed till that day. AUSTRIAN LOAN. On the Marquess of LONDONDERRY moving the Order of the Day for receiving the Report of the Com mittee of Supply, Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said, he wished to ask a question of the Noble Lord, relative to the Aus trian Laan. Ile believed his Lordship hail stated on a former occasion, that Austria had denied the Loan as due to this country ; and also that the arguments and reasons on which that denial was founded, were contained in one of Mr. Cordon's Despatches. As this was a matter of great public importance. involving no less a sum than 17 millions, he wished to know the grounds on which Austria denied the existence of the debt, and what objection the Noble Lord had to bring ing the papers of Mr. (Jordon before the House. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said, he slid not think it advisable that, pending a negociation on the sithject, renewed with the Court of Austria, any disclosure should be made, wide!' might have the ef fect of putting one or the other of the parties in a worse situation than before. The debt lie considered to be still good and existing; and unless Government gave np the claim, lie did not see why the Noble Lord called on Parliament to interfere. Lord J. ItCSSF:LL observed, that the Noble Lord's answer was very like no answer at all.—(Clear, hear.) If the. Government gave np the debt there would be att end to all negociation, and if it did not, nothing could be more evident th in that a declaration of the House in support of it would have the effect of strength ening the arm ems by which Government enforced the claim.—(llear, hear.)-lle would therefore give notice that a motion would be submitted on the subject in the course of a few days, either by Isis Hon. Friend the Nienilier fur Buckingliatushire (Mr. B. Smith), or by himself. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY remarked, that the Noble Lord 4peared to think a negociatiun with a Foreign Court could be better conducted in Parlia ment than by the Ministers of the Crown. AGRICLUTI:II.II. REPORT. Lord MILTON inquired when it was likely that the Report of the Agricultural Committee would be pre tented to the House ? To a quest' of the same kind before Easter, it bad been answered, that it would he probahlF presented in ten days after the E aster recess, but six weeks hail since elapsed, and rumours were admit that it would not be presented for some time. — Considering the great importance of the question which hail so long agitated the country, lie wished to under stand whether the Report on this interestitor subject was to he presented in the present Session ?—(Near !) The Marquess of LONDONDERRY stated, that in the absence of the Chairman of the Committee (Mr. Gooch). it was impossible to say when the Report could be presented. It was out of the power of him or any other Member of the Committee to tell that. Mr. TIF.RNEY observed, that although the Noble Lord, a. a Member of the Committee, could not give a direct answer, yet he could give a shrewd guess on the subject. if he pleased.—(llear v. and a laugh). Lord LONDONDERRY said he could give no answer. Lord miuros observed, that it appeared they were to be put off from one day to another , until the Session all whiled away.—(lleac!) The Marquess of lA)NDON DERRY said, that if the Session was whiled away ,the Noble Lord and hisfriends could not be accounted blameless.—(llear !) Mr. BENNET observed, that although this quoestou agitated all England , fro m Scotland to the lossr.osib, yet they could ohtaio no answer. Mr. HUSKISSON remarked that the importance of l the question was the best reason in the world why a grave assembly should not come to a hasty decision tipon it.—(llear!) The tint item in the Report of the Committee of Sup ply was then read.—" That a sum not exceedingl3,o7 U. thl. be granted to his Majesty for defraying the Sa laries to the Master-Oeneral, principal Officers, Clerks, and attendants belooging to the office of Ordnance, em ployed at the Tower an Pall-mall, for the year lel." Mr. Ili'MK objected to the sem as extranrant, and moved as an amendment, that it be reduced to tai IL Me. LOCKHART observed that the Table was co vered with Petitions complaining of the distresses of the people. If those Petitions were well founded, bow was it possible to expect that the he people ld pay t Mee which they hat heretofore paid ? cou Those dis- the agriculture t re sses affected principally of the cll fou u n n s t l r a y tio ; n b s u o t f tli a " ll " L is so th tt e rc li e r s ti o c f l o ll u a r re pr t os he g':t7 eti t t?' : der the existing eire a n n m d st r an i c it e i s n o l f lr t , h i e m e t on it ntri it burdenssilde tha t impos thei p o eo n p t le he e m ou . Idietonwtains said that the tri;:e not merely morally was ph ‘s ,., e te a i l n il the ini" the present situation of things was temporary. He was at a loss to know how that could be called tftrips4 racy which had ruined half the yeomanry of the country, as well as half the other middle ;ad 'arias. trious classes •f society. He contended, that not only before the House separated, but before they voted away a further shilling of the public money, th e y ought to have before them the Report of the Agricul tural Committee; for of what use was it to rote acf sum until they knew what the ability of the countri was to pay it ? As to the Revenue, the Chancell t 4 of the Exchequer might boast of raising a large re , venue, but he (Mr. Lockhart) would say that ii wait so much money taken away from the capital a ss t revenue of the country. He would, therefote, c o t vote on the question of these Estimates, imam. be felt that lie should be voting in the dark, for the country, as far as he knew, might be utterly us a bl e to besr the slightest additional burden. Mr. !MARIE), as the delay in presentine the Re port of the Agricultural Committee had been noticed, begged to say that that delay hail arisen from the es. ture of the inquiry, and not from any want of dill- Bence on the part of the Committee. winch, on the con trary, he would venture to say, hail discharged the im portant duties entrusted to them in a wanner highly err- Iditable to themselves. It was Isis tient opinion that the Report would be presented before the Prorogation of Parliament. Mr. WARRE observed, that the simple statement of his Honourable Friend, the Member for Aberdeen, re quired no additional continent from him. lie was as tonished at the taciturnity of the Noble Lord opposite and his Right Honourable Colleague on these important subjects. He called upon the Honourable the Clerk of the Ordnance, however, to rise and explain the reasons which had intlnced him to propose the vote in question. Mr. %VAR!) said, that the real truth why he had been reluctant to rise was, because be had before troubled the House repeatedly and at considerable length on these Estimates, leaving no one item of them untouched and unexplained. Ile would repeat what be had before stated, that the increased amount of the item ' tinder consideration was to be ascribed to the great in crease in the accounts, arising from the addition of the Ordnance Estimates of Ireland, the half pay, the cola nial accounts, &c. It was impossible, even with the present establishment, to keep up with those accounts; they were reducing the arrear, however, as fast as pm. %ibis.; but Ise could nut hold out any expectation of be ing aisle to propose a diminution in the amount eves next year. After a few words from Sir 3. Newentr, and a short explanation from Mr. WARD, the !louse divided: — For Mr. flume's Amendment, 7!—Against it, 93- N 1 ajority, ?.I. 'the original Resolution was then agreed to. On the Resolution for granting `20.1631• for the per of the Civil Establishments of the Offire of Ordnance, at the outports and stations; and also for Rent, Team plc. in Oreat Britain, Guernsey. and Jersey, Mr Hass moved an Amendment to reduce the grant to 15,101. which was negatived without a division. On the Resolution for granting 14,6311. for the pay of Civil Officers and Clerks belonging oaths Ordnance on Foreign stations, Mr. Hume moved an I % A va n s n iietd e i g naetnivtedwi th out to reslus a divisi o n.thegrant to 12,1311. which On the Itesolutiuu for granting 56,090/. to dein, the Incidental Charges, Ordinary Repairs, sad Bac. rack Expenses at the Tower, and the several Potts, Garrisons, and places under the Ordnance in (heat Britain, litternsey, and Jersey, Mr. (lIPPS moved an Amendment to reduce the grant to 34,0001. Mr. WARD observed, that if the Hon. Beetles's& would call at his office, he would show him a list of all the items of which the proposed grant was con- posed. Mr. GIPPS replied, that he did not think that would satisfy the public•—(bear, hear) --and again pointed out the great and unexplaitirol increase which had taken place in this part of the Ordnance Pare. diture since the year I ro 17. Mr. DEMN,iN said, that be trusted his Hen. Friend would press his Amendment to a &ilia, were it only to 'hew the country that at least some of their Representatives were determined to do their duty. I When at a time of profound peace like the present, ' all pretext for raising or maintaining barracks bin: I absent, such a grant was proposed, it was the duty on, of that side of the House to resist suelo a propo.iti however small their numbers, and however hopeless they might b.• of success against the overwhelming majority which the defeat of his lion. Friend's motion that night, for restoring the independence of Pir. liatotent, was calculated to secure to the Noble Hit ques4 opposite. Lord MILTON begged to ask the nom ursSle Se cretary of the Treasure, whether the expo rave of tk barracks which had recently been built in the ifel Riding of Yorkshire was included is the pro sent Or the Magistrates of that Riding having, as h Or stood, refused to pay that expense Mr. ARBUTHNOT replied, that the distarbaar ei which had called for the erection of the barra M a" cks al luded to by the Nobl e Lord having ceased, the gistrates had certainly expressed a disincliasties le pay for the expense of their erection, aad there lag fore G overnmen t had wade arrang ements for olefray that expense. The House then olivioled•—For the Ansendniento 01 Against it, 94--Majority, 26. The original Resolution a as then agrved to. Oa the Resolution for granting 94,3561.0 s seat* of the Balser* for the Pay of the Royal Regim_ a eal Artillery fee West Britain, and of Nee-erkaikk 4o.l. " °dicers :ad thinners of the late Invalid Itattsßemle• Mined in the several lie; Aeons and B a tteries, far O * lt Year 1924 after allowing for a vote of credit o MAW., granted on the 19 th of April. 181,1 ing in the whole 211,365/. Mr. HUMP. reoitated the objections which henr! in the Committee to the extent of this Grant, sof awed an Amendment to rehire it to 61,936/.. which was negatived without a division. On the Reselatio n for granting 8.377 f. for I li r ra7 of the Medical Eitablislinsent, for theilitary Hr• M p e rtinent of the Ordnance in Great Britain, Gr a M ta r t . to il 5, 771• I N K / . skin. ;aswovhedichavinaf toisrogesatotliovnetienteritteharehas :4:1111r. of the Rellellance"otti**tehefogria:LZ339ries.l;b:llo6oearrelit ampummill No raali n ibi rsed by dit be la C e . l TibMit is ?order Mills at I is ro t a te the gra imit a dirties tM r". 1110,64 f Mr. H Ulllittss Ma of 7 1 Pow• "t a akimbo. The original urn the Ben 377 i, 4s. dd Atmossces to 90 a id e d Men and P Officers, late bete c o rps in Great I i n the yea' Mr. BU ME Idio t e of those I owe d in one t ensity of this n we ight 11 P°D tions. aßowertet no nce, 111110110 1 1 1 also that Minis! during the C " p o ssible, all ra this alone wool country. The Resolnt On the Be" fot the servic e Britain, for ti Mr. BERN' no t exceeding vice. After a few we ll, Mr. box" For the .tunin favoar of ti Upon the 11 for the service year I s 2l, Mr. LOCKI upon thermic as well as n :night be Jeri After a few and Mr. Golf' The J simtic t i me, to be cc The Oran; time. and ord The BAP"' Navigation I be read the t The Luni time, and or The South miller. and t nscorrott. The Other and the Gov rittut OF Moak Stack 9 per Cent. Iti fief Cen t.o per Cent. 3 •psr Cents. 1 6 per Cl. Ni,) A per Cent. Legg Ana li Imp. 3 per Cyr Irish 6 per Ce lIICH Illornittg •• ?es satiol Tile 1 diet• kit count, hi since bei The Ira L per (2 , in ver Lett nia,'s lilies lipani PArii girding litati gess i that. lb. n were of ilii de II wall ( itei s .the the L, 1 - - !;• r • - • ; ------"----"AGW--4-'-'=- "" .1r • 211.99.1111111011110 illerffense, reduced the qaestien from • :;fr, to one of degree. T here was On fort ift* which history did not chew that the I existed in keeping within due bound Supreme Power. His Hon. Friend b referred to the Acts which had been times to limit the power of the Croy assure him that no one held those Act • t tion than be (Mr. Robinson) did. TI not been sufficient to restrain the pas and it bad been found necessary to That necessity was never more ob. • 1 time of Sir R. Walpo le, when there placemen2oo placemen in that House--a a s ero us that it was impossible the dot me at could be well admin istered, c - the country, or the independence • served with a House of Commons so c such circumstances there could 1 measures like his Hoo. Friend's we But there never was a time when placemen than at present.—(Heat fore the question for the House was. of this number was such as to requ in to expel them? The lion. (I mitted, that in great national quest been fair, and not made up solely t he had principally adverted to the sion, shewing that the majorities question were so made up by a I placemen. That argument would 1 of all placemen, which was coal Friend's argument. He knew that Tying on the affairs of Government the form of parties, was much at but he confessed that he was one that mode. Without it he thougi of the country would be carried sacilating system of policy, and fully and caprice of individuals, i' • together by other and wore liouou personal ioterest. lie did not sli ing that these were his gentiineni I notwithstanding the invective wit be treated. He must Pay, he tli tration in the House of Common gether by the ties of party and of independent in its existence as at i t'at House. Ilk lion. Friend sa dip not po‘selot the confidence no of the people it represented. He bad always found it to be his din sent Administration, and that It conscientiously. He (31r. Mobil credit for the truth of this assert well to suppose he could act iron be hoped, at the same ti me, he w i • for acting as conscientiously.—([ they sometimes were opposed I conntry, they were not to be s' no feeling fur the people. No I on if it were to change with evo tic opinions; and if it had not t!:e merits of every question it I gether unswayed by the popula 'tient, which veered about with (Hear.) —As the influence of th sent was never less, so the inflt was never greater than at prese . , convinced that when public or lt was in the right Parliam ent hai it.—(llear.) Ile knew what House rejected this measure, iss hers would not be induced to I count. In his opinion it won 411 that jest and rational influent lkepresentative Constitution, t and politicians of every ago practicable wholly to evade it . . . ment.—Olear, bear ) Colonel DAVIES said that any man to look at the state i . .. feel that the influence of the than at any former petit, I. 1 ~ ' I in which that influence was ri Ihe lavish expenditure sar I the House of Commons wit , . a ' people. He had the stronger enre of placemen in that Ilm the subject of any particular i defence and retired ; why dit same principle ..--(llear.) 1 Finance Committee it would `202,395t. had been granted ;mations in Great Britain an 1 the regular military, naval, ai MP was now increased to I afford quite sufficient influen placemen having seats in p the House, if they bad an, ing, to adopt the moderate, tional principle of reform motion embraced.—(flour.) The House then diviticsl. • For Mr. Bvitnet's motion. 5 r ity against it, 1.4. L Mr. Hume,-rd 1311:11T, Mr. L --EN NARD, and several on', time division having us I On oar re-admission to I Mr. Rentruort obtainin, to amend the acts concerni rests. YORK El L ird MILTON rose t o • 1 Ili:I to (sunhat* the takil ili r 1 Elections in the County begged to say, though he the Bill at the present 11111 • . :111 (peace of the arrangensei County of York by the 01 Bill. His attention bail sect, and he should have I if the arrangements to s I been made. His plea wa votes in different parts i polls, under the imperial ', i by the Sheriff, might pt proceeded to describe th littreatd asimmit to the Ike Fencers to be given t . ' the Simi , . and other a I . ISL . by ai ng smisess for Im re Lo I t* I 151 ; 010146gilieth25eme fr ill . . . sTATIMMAN. • .., , • • - oppose the bliingiss la of the Bill, bat he pointed oat in the Navigable Rivers' Bill, which he mew 'move the difficulties which ' lay In the way of the tnessnre.4— shOuld be committed. It went to introduce „m iss principle int, the Law of The Marquess of LONDONDERRY was wry -• -__ ....1..„4.4. i t did. t h e aorrs i sg oo o f oppose the Honourable and Learned Oestlemas, b ...wed as be was with us important duty, he mu . . nce, or 0v..... • .hich the proposed grant was ma- I lied, that he did n ot think that 1 public (hear. brat) --and again eat and unexplained increase whirls The I'uo this part of the Ordnance Rya- tloey left of , ar 1417. said, that he trusted his Hew count, but ess his A l oes:dissent to a division, since heels icw the country that at least some of The fear Ives were determined to Jo their duty. f profound peace like the present, night, (set sing or maintaining barracks bens: .5 per Coo ant was proposed, it was the duty of in a very louse to resist such a propo•ition , seir numbers, and however hopeless Letters 4 success against the overwhelming nias's hy he defeat of Isis lion. Friend's motion lithos wee restoring the independence of Par- 'Spanish Isolated to secure to the Noble )12r• Paris N begged to ask the lion. urshle Se- -ceding el 'reasstry, whether the expo n=e of lit sad recently been built in the irel titan Ste hire was included in the pro sent On ens In s; of that Riding having , as h e oado ' thals an pay that expense ? Houssen lINOT replied, that the disturlogos 1 'the mos J for the erection of the barracks al- Were SO Noble Lord having ceased, the MS' of diva sr tainiy expressed a disinclinations le e ase of their erection , aid t k liras der ale duo d made arrange me nts for defolbst wernnte t en divided---For the Amend m ent, GS i eels pro -.Majority, 211. forb 'before It e s u latioa a as then ag reed to. ad lotion for granting 94,3541. on wool ?notion for the Pay of the Wird Regimes% of restrai Nat Britain. and of Nowerstrisi sloWeit tisfactl mere of the late Invalid listtalius, re" gotiati everal Oa: Astons and flatteries, for the .item Iter allowing for a vote of credit of body nted on the 1911. of April. 1821, NA' the bads. ,le 211,3 65 /. ls re-stated the objections w hi c h be arse o the ties to the extent of this Want, awl -laical' suilment to reluce it to i1,t136/., which in fel without a division. of test pietism for granting t0,377L for the Pay have al Eilahlislinient, for the. Fl lie . • tenth he Ordnance in Great Britain, Pt It moved an Assiessobssent to miller the we& rl. ; which *as negatived 'Admit a dirs. Mob 111 slatbse for granting 3901/. eillin migt, Am . m. of the Estraor dinaries of the tsww• . • •