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:•• VCI/KPL- Cl 9 C k Awft ,- ecotetttL-v- iota .41 - l • A • '.' •411111! ~ T .... •.... .!-...N., t r .• m. • ct..-1 r- ~....., ~ 4 , ..... , . . „. I I . . ) .... i . ..1 ..... 1 I sl e 11 1.1 ili• ' ^lMiri.r - ... -~.~ _:,,~-~ . LONDON, FRIDAY, JULY 21, 1820. No. -177.5. A NEW SCBOOI. BOOK. ti t day Wil published. in one Volome Ifto. with 150 Portraits. Trice os. 6d. bound. CLASS KOOK, nr 365 Lives of Ike most eminent Men of all Nations, from HollEß to AR? R YOUNG. du-igned as Reading 1..., br tiehor!• for eyery thy its the Year, on the pion of disieemissiral.de Claes Rook. :Iv the Res. J. GOIMSMITII. MAW of the Grammar Of Genera! (ieography. of the tidy &Dy k e . of Geographical Illustrations. t ~:.) n oo k s , se. kr. The a w e e riliogrephy in a moral. didactic. end hi,tori. se mi, • ,0 .enerelly frit. that it is unmet-psi:sr% 1.. es pa ea the peesiisr claims of this new 1:18:, tt. of t o p a . t ,,,,aarmas salvers° , as that whiCh has been espyrieheed by jstssaiseed Predecessor. The Portraits are a Ina , „ s ame t.Aelty and interest. and uric keen `rages ~i honid i so rit, 'chiefly from Author Busts and crialsetil Pirtates. • . Ho e d bs Sit Richard Pbillips and Co., and t o be had of SOW*" ot fay be had the larl9us Ocoee %PIM %I. WORN ott t eas mokAor. with the full allowance to Sr' la par- NW sad improt ed Edition 9f tbe same Antbor's ilia:lll3lAß et llRlTibli Cib.O4.IRAPHY. Mith IlnjMapa and Views. at Ss. 6,1. By THE 'ONO'S ROYAL LETTERS PATENT. THE ECONOM 'CAL AND UNI FAISAL 1.:1M I'. IN rentenqt!eing tht dreadful at-61,4-ot% e•hich f , o frequently occur in the destruction of persona otot pro petty from Inc one of Candles, the Public will this timbre- d o le toe importance of *substitute. embracing p, rfeet s a to y, in invariable .:ertainty of tight proportioned In the o'•ea.ion, ecool to au in delicacy, burning the whole er,stintT nith ,,st the necessity of trimming. and the evpense in hest Sper maceti oil sot half that of tallow candles, or n••-sixth of ssL Tuis Lamp is completely portable (haring any Je rre of notion). where required to b.• so, viz the dinits:;- table. single or In branches, the sideboard, vils.. bracket, ,:ooe, or tan-light, or ornamental for the otle-pieee. draw istroom. coasersatory. staircase, Ile.; and I°F house or chamber. or night-light, is incomparable. In reeian hang lag lamps (all glass) they are elegantly simple. and admira septed for the staircase. passage. hobby. 11,11. d .•. they merit the particular attention of familial. : or in lollies. tither passengers to, or resident in. the East or West Indies, °rebel . hot climates; the principle is such as to teect the mesa& espaeity is the management of them. Sold by T. Pearce and Co. Agents to the Patentee, No. 6. Picheit-eirtet. Temple-bur, Strand ; who, to secure its mini tadoa front the effects of iuferior oil, are boned to deliver to the Public none but the beat Spermaceti that can he prontred. Letters, post paid. from any part of the kingdom, will met with proml•t attention. LAVIDKR . II J PAM still triue.phs in the wed Of just lemma, by public voice decreed ! MINDERS and Company dnly appreciating the .1A honour conferred on them in the decided pei f, reser given to their Article of Manufacture. by a generous and dis cerning Public. heg leave to tender the bonieste of thi it most grateful acknowledgments. Hating berm graciously pa oasiand Rood Higintess the Parsee Regent. they mire itow placed In the pre-eanuent situation of Blacking Manu facture, to his Majesty, and have in comicgmence a n eri d their label, by substituting on the bottles, &c. the Royal Arms for the Priaces Crest ; and more particulariy to mart the dim tisetton, their nines will henceforth appear on each label is Emit lA% Lartaas.—This Inestimable Companion is still prepared and iold Wholesale, at their Orizinal 11 arelitin%e. No. 3. Ship-place, Temple Bar. London both in Lipoid rind Paste). at the usual Prices; as is lig(1 their mnct,.apprut ed Royal Bogy-Tor Liguits; and Retailed by all o sp-etable Shopkeepers in the United Kingdom. ANGEL INN, Sr. CLeumur's. rivaamo. GENERAL OFFICE. FOR TR IVF:I.I.ING. THE following MAILS and other CI ► WHES go from the above Inn:— Paris Royal Mail, Ha Dover Tuesday sad Friday Nights, Ittwelte. Portsmouth add Gosport Mail, through Hodriming. ps lerdeld, and Portses, ever) Everting at a flintier past 7, godheads) at half past 6. On Its arrival • rad" t soils to the Isle of Wight. to conies passenger' and parcel.: and • Mail Coach sets i 4 to Chichester, through Drayton, Hanna, Emswortb, d c. Gloucester and Milford Mail. throng!' Henley. Oxford, sad Cheltenham. every E'ening a !planer past 7, and Sun day at half-past 6. Dover sod Canterbury Mail, through Gravesend, Chat ham, and Feversliam. every evening at is onarter past 7. and &Way at half past It. From ('anterbun. passengers and par tels are conveyed to Deni, Margate, italingstr, Sandwich, et; and from Dover, parcels are consoled to Vollotone, thedgate, Ily the. Dimeharch, Roinne). and L)41 , 1. lbendel and Bognor Post-coach. throng!' Riftinghnrat, Amity, Wednesday. and Friday, a quarter before 7. bah aid Bristol Post-coach, to carry not) f.oir inside, 1 6110 Reading, Marlborough, Cahn.. and ('hiprienhani, nary Morning at (I. lath Light Post-roach, In two da))s. to Maidenhead, Reading. Nlarlbswrnagh. De' in-s, and Ingham, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday •t 8- This coatis is rhielly intended for the areomo.o,llll.ol of families, ion siids, &c. who cannot undergo the fatigue of earns distance in one day. 814 8 18 mt Eight Post-coach, throngb Reigate and Clock- BAC every Morning at $. (lelteaham Postiffilleil, to carry only four inside. through Balky and Oxford. ever) Morning at a quarter before 0. Chichester, Bogoor, and Petworth Post-coach. Monday, Wednesday, and Friday Mornings, at a quarter before 7. Doter and Canterbury Light Pust-coach, Montle', Tars . dry. Thursday, Friday. and Sunday Mornings. at 7. tleddming and Onildford Telegraph Conch. through Ash- weed. Epsom. Leasherhead, &c. Tuesday, Thursday, and 84hurday Mornings. at 9. godalieleg and Ouildford new Coach. through %terms/. Ga inn, llorseley. lAnghsan. Letthertned, and Epsom, I wary Afternoon at 8, except Sunday. NORTH ERN COACH RS. Caslisle. Penrith, and Whitehaven, Post Conch, goes with roar Horses and a Huard all the say. Passes thrioigh lirsegh. Apple!iv. Gretabridge, Richmond. Calterick, Bo.' tsaghbridge, Wetherbv, Aberford, Doncaster. and Oran. aii (tlw neurpg: way by IA refs oat every coming, lid performs the journey with the greatest facility. Passen lilindettjacd on the road. by business or pleasure, have the Ptallar advantage of their seats being secured in the meat. C'AR RIERN, To Twickenham. Breatford, end Isleworth. every Mon- Ely. Wednesday, Friday, sad Seniority . EAMES and Co., Proprietors. Paresis and Packages are safely and expeditiously eon- IS from this Inn to every City. Town. Village. and waste, Meet in the fallowing Counties. vin.:—Berks. Bucks, Carswell, Detoo , Dorset. Hants, Hereford. Glouer.ter, Lent, Oxford. Somerset. Surrey. Susses. Wits. %Worm-Q.T. Meth Wales, all p ar t s o f th e Isle of Wight, Jersey. linens all parts of France to all Parts of the North i s Take notice, that 1 o package containing glam rhilia. Ittel " , —,_ ite. cash, or Beak notes. however small the "we, wi ll be actennted for, If lost or damaged: nor any Pareel or passenger's luggirge, of more than value, 4.11111 • P reified as seek when &whirred at the tflhce and Paid Ihr iceordingiy Neat Port-Mises, &c. at the shortest *ohne " The Cause for which FIAMI'DEN fell in the Field, and SYDNEY died on the finfold 1.41 P Elll.l I, P.l RLI AMEN 7. Lord read over the statements made by the Gentleman in question relative to his numerous and useful duties. From these it appeared that he was a most useful offi cer; but it was impossible he could attend to those duties if he came to attend his Parliamentary du ties in London. II: confessed be did not like to see mica a return as this made by a great city ; it was far from being a good symptom of political feeling in Ire land, whatever the Noble Lord might think of the loyalty of those who made the return. With regard to the übjeetion, that this was an ex postfire•to law, he would ask, whether there were not many statutes which had exactly the same operation ? Ihe statute fur hulls .. .re, which prevented excisemen from voting .at teeetions, was an er post fire -to law; and so was the ''law which excluded Roman Catholics. But the pre• sent was not so much an ex poet facto law, as those to which he had jest alluded ; for it declared, that after the first of August, no Master of the Irish Court of Chancery should sit in the House of Commons. By animists melt a person to sit there, the purity and in dependence of Parliament were affected, as well as the administration of justice. He concluded with giving his hearty support to the clause. The Earl of Lint:Amu explained. The Earl of Livaitroos would not now inquire what was or what was nut an ix post /orb, law. With that he molting to ilo, his business being to consider whether the measure at present before their Lordships was just towards a partieulur individual or not. Ile believed It was not a just, hut, on the contrary, a most unjust measure. And was there, he would ask, any urgent necessity for such a proceeding? No, it could not be asserted that there was; yet, without any mutiott of that stature to sanction it, their Lordships were railed upon tn-sdo an art of direct and manifest injustice. But then it was sail by the Noble Lord who had spoken Ixst, that it was contrary to law that Masters in Ch sr sloiald have seats in Parliament. If such a p . was • Weed to be the fact, why had not the op. Janet the Gentleman in question petitioned against his return, and urged that as an argument betore the House of Commons? The Parliament would then have decided upon the quest;on at once. But though he was not prepared to deny that the law was against the practice, still be should contend that custom had re cognised it for the last two hundred years, and it was not therefore worthy of the Noble I,..ed' s usual mode of reasoning to swell out his arguments by such fee ble aids. He understood that a Noble Friend of his (Lord Reslesslale) approved of the principle of the Bill. Possibly he saw just grounds for such approbation, and, (Lord Liverpool) did not mean to question its genera! expediency. But he would ask their Lord ships if they slid not think it unjust in the extreme to apply a prospective law to a measure that had taken place, perhaps, before any law sin the snbjeet was fon ts-titillated ? If it cont.! hs justified by any plea of state necessity, or that a rase could be made out of so urgent a stature as not to admit of delay, he might indeed be disposed to acquiesce in it. But here was nu such ilea; here was no such case; no argument was adduces' to show that the proposition could be supported upon its own merits. He insisted that their 'Lordships ought not to legislate retrospectively, unless front consider- Guns of peculior urgency. It was a well-known fact, that Masters in Chancery, of different political senti ments, hail set red in Parliament with credit to them selves and advantage to the public. When the Act of the Ist of his late Majesty made the Judges inde pendent of the Prince of Waies, certainly a most wise and salutary measure, would the Judges who had been supported before that Act passed have been justified in behaving in such a manner as to excite the displeasure of the Prince of Wales, merely because it hail passed ? Assuredly they would nut, for that would have been to presume upon the retrospective ef fect of the law. lint It was to he obserssol, in the case now before their Lordships, that the individual had lawfully purchased the oifise, and it was very hard that lie should now, by an e.r poi/fret, law, be deprived of a place fur which he might fairly expect an honourable remuneration under any other eirettun stances. He said this, because, sitter the time he hail purchased the office, a law had passed prohibiting such purchases to he made in future, and consequently he was not now at liberty to dispose of it. Ile con sidered this to be not only an unjust but a cruel mea sure. Ile was not influenced hy any principle of poli tical hostility to the Inmate of the father of the lien tleusan who stood opposed to this individual; on .the contrary, though happening to slitter from the late Mr. Grattan upon political subjects, he had invariably held his character in the highest respect, and he was glad to have this upportnnity of stating, that front some private trans:it:li sits which hail passed between hint and that gentlemau, be Was the better enabled to bear testimony to his worth. In fact, he had never known a ware honourable man.—(Cheers.)--lle knew no thing of the per•on against whom this clause was to operate; he had never once seen him, but he should ne vertheless oppose any measure calculated to list a mani fest injustice, whoever might be the ob . ;ect of it. The Earl of LIMERICK contended, that the argu ments of the Noble Earl could nut justify the indivi dual in acting in two characters that were incompati ble with each other. If that individual had purchased an office, he must have known that the duties of it were to be performed. The Earl of ENNISKILLZN said, he had purchased it under circumstances less favourable to his interest than Ise could have reason to expect. The Earl of LAUDERDALE maintained, that even upon the statement of the individual in question, his present duties were of such a nature as to render it impossible that he could be a useful Member of Parlia ment. The rase was quite otherwise with English Masten in Chancery, who could perform both duties at the sense time. The Earl of Ltettnroot. said, he did not argue as to the difference of facility with which English and trig Masters is Chummy could serve as Members HOUSE OF LORDS, TitURSDAY, JLLY to. The Earl of Liniment'', moved, that a Committee be appointed to search far precedents relative to the otodt• of enforcin' the attendance of the Peers. The motion was agreed to, a td the Committee ap pointed. Among' the Alettihers of the Conitnittee are the Lord Chancellor, Earl of Liverpool, Lord Mel sire, the At.. libiNhop of Catitethury, Lord llolland, Earl of Lauderdale, Lord Shaftesbury, Lord Wilts &e. The Rank Niers Bill, the Irish Eislierie, Bill / the Lunatic Asylum Bill, the Turnpike Roads Bill, and the Alien gill, were read a third time, and pae•ed. Mr. Johnson, from the office of the Chief Secretary for Ireland, presented certain papers to the House. IltUSll )1 KT t►l' I.l..—The Home having resolved itself into a Committee on this 1131, laird REDESPALE made several remarks upon the v :risme clauses in it, and proposed several amend ments. One of these !tad for its object to correct a practice which had long prevailed in Ireland, and which he had frennent opportunities of witnessing at the time when he ha l the honour of presiding over the Court of Chancery there. It was that of persons isanitsg process, and not giving due notice to the parties against whom it issues!, until sennestration took place. The Noble Lord then came to that clause which went to prohibit any Master in Chancery from sitting as a ,Member in the Commons House of Parlia ment ; and after making some objections to the in jnstice of such a provision, particularly in as much as i; would affect an individual who was lately returned for the city of Dublin. Ile inured as an amendment, that tlie clause be omitted f the Bill. The Earl of Lista:nit t; maintained that the dance was essential to the due administration of justice in Ireland, as was evident from the declaration of the :•r• Gentleman for whose sake it was now proposed to reject this clause. That Gentleman. a Master its ry in Ireland, had stated before the Coaumittee of Iniptiry, that a great variety of business was attached sii his office; that the duties of that other were of the .nod important nature with regard to the administra thin of justice ; that be was often associated with Judges in the Court of Deleg.a..s in Ireland, and that his duties were so heavy as to occupy hint ten months out of every twelve. Ile ...islicil to know then, what hardship could this Genii/ n suffer by being excluded (rot; Parliament ; the dn.; s of which he must be un able to perform, without ne.derting those attached to his situation in Ireland. I s that Gentleman was am bitious of having a seat in Parliament, be had nothieg to do but abandon his laborious duties. lie (Lord L.) was decidedly au to any man 'ling in himself the double characser of a high law officer, and a legislator. The close attention required in the one situation, was incompatible nith the ambition insepa rable from the other. The judicial and the political character should never be malted in the same perS , lll. 1) 114 .4 the greatest evil. iwitierly attending the admi nistration of justice in Ireland was, that the Judges At:tined their seats in i ousequence of being Nlenthers , of the House of Co ttttt tons, and of their stiliserviency to the Ministers of the Government. lint that prac tire was now happily done away, and none but lan yera were made Judges. Ile was, therefore, an enemy to any thing lik.• an union of judicial and poli tical power. Some persons might s iy, that it would he a great hardship on the Gentleman lately returned for Dublin, to he prevented fr taking his seat ; lint it W 11.4 of more importance that the interests of five millions of people should not he sacrificed by a neglect I of those important legal duties, in whirls they must he all interested, than that a Lingle individual should hold a seat in Parliament. lie therefore lisped the House would not reject the clause. The Earl of ENNI3MILLEN said, he differed alto gether from the sentiments of the Noble [awl who spoke last. 'I he clause its the Bill meat to exclude a Gentleman from his seat in Parliament, and would be a must cruel thing to try hint by an ex post facto law. This Gentleman (Mr. Ellis) was returned by a very great majority of the electars of Dublin, and particu larly by the loyal part of the eiectors; and it would be great injustice to those electitrs, as well as to the ob ject of their claim, to render that choice null and void. Ile Noble Lord spoke of the great interest which he felt in the welfare of five millions of people in Ireland : but he could assure the Noble Lord, those people would think he was much more friendly to them, and would be very happy, if he would give them a little more of his company. Lord HOLLAND seldom recollected a provision in any Bill on the table of that House, for which so many just reasons might be given as the present. Indeed the provision did no mure than enforce the law of Parlia ment, which said, that plasters in the Court of Chan cery should nut sit in Parliament. In England they were the servants of that House, and of course they could not sit in any House. (Here some Noble Lord exclaimed—" Some of them sit in the House of Com 'awns.") That, resumed Lord W, was done by con nivance in the saute manner as the Attorney and So licitor-Oeneral sat there; although by law they should he excluded. There was another circumstance which ought to induce their Lorilithips to retain this clause; that was, a deference which was due to the opinionasf the House of Commons on a point Immediately con nected with the constitution of their own body; be canoe this enactment in the Bill was conceived by the Members of that House, as necessary for the preser vation of their independence. It waisasked why should a Member be deprived of his right to sit in the House of Commons t the answer was, because his sitting "there would be injurious to the independence of the House. Besides, his seat in the House would inter fere with the duties of a very imitortant office which .ibis individual filled in Ireland. Here the Noble PRICE SEVEN PENCE. of Parliament. All that he intended by what be had said respecting English Masters in Chancery, was, that their judicial integrity was net shaken by their having seats in Parliament. Lord HOLLAND explained. The LORD CuANcutton said, that the descendants of persons who had filled high judicial situations were now faithfully disTharging their duties in this House. If they should exclude Masters in Chance ry from Par liament they might as well deprive the Attorney and Solicitor-lienerals of their seats. The principle exactly the same, and npon this principle one of the most valuable Members that ever held a seat in 110' Legislature, the late Sir Samuel lioniilly, would hay.• been excluded. But it appeared that this was an Irish Master in Chancery. Now he could see no difference whatever between an Irish or an English Master Chancery, a., far as the principle of the measure uas concerned. The Earl of Listratcx and the LORD CHAN( Et.t.o.t mutually explained. Lord KENYON spoke briefly against the cause. It their Lordships should exclude the gentleman case was under consideration, they would sanction a principle which might he applied to cases that were not at present contemplated. The shortness of the time which this gentleman had to attend his ilor!ng the day, being. only four hours, might retolve it possible for an arrangement to be made which would enable him to attend his tluties in Pariiament oithuot soy prejudice to the interests of his clients. Ile v.;:s decidedly opposed to the clause; and be was pri suaded, that to adopt it would tend to lower the ci a• racier of Parliament. Their Lordship% then divided on the anien•:wl•lt. and the numbers were— Contents 22 Non-Contents - - - 10 Mlsjority • - —l2 The next divided nn the ehoFe, which was ni•l!a tived, the numbers being the saint as above. INSOLVENT DEB roßs . BILL—On the of Lord AIicKLIND, their Lordships went into a It ur inittee on this Bill. Lord ItEnr.sriaLs proposed a clause for appoint:ng one Commissioner instead of three, as the Bill pr videil. lie maintained, that one Commissioner air:: I answer all the pnrcoses required, and the duties be much better performed. As an instance of t::e fact, it was only necessary for him to advert to the Court of Exchequer, where, by an Act of Parliament, all equity cases were decided by the Chief Baron a10n.., and infinitely with more advantage to the intblic lo west than if three Judges were engaged. Lord AUCKLAND expressed his dissent from the ',pi ll ill n of the Noble and Learned Lord in this particu lar. It appears d to him that three Commi,,sionr,l were absolutely necessary. A material ilicidranta_e that resulted from the late Bill was, that by proti.!in only one Commissioner, the accounts of debtors wen• frequently passed without any examination. . . . 'I he liar was then cleared for a division on t:• e clause, bat on our re-admission we found that Lora lteussoALE had conr : ented to withdraw it. Their Lordships resumed, and the Bill was oi-tiered • to he received to-morrow. Lord Auctmax to said, that it had been his intelitiol to introduce a clause into the above Bill, for the p•ir pose of pr. riding relief for persons imprisoned t‘ r contempt of thr Court of Chancery, hut the N..! and Learned Lord on the IVoolsack having intim..tv.l that he would take the subject into his own 1..an.1,, he (Lord Auckland) must gladly transferred the task to that Noble Lord. The Lo Coaxcaw.na stated, that the provisitot to which the Noble Lord alluded ps being left ui'!) Lim (•he Lord l'hancellor) to originate, would ail. ly not only to individuals imprisoned for contempt of the Court of Climicery, but also of the other Courts. Adjourned at half -past Eight o'clock. NAUTIC.:IL INTELLIGENCE. The Cambrian, Tindall, from Newcastle, bound tJ Harwich, put into Scarborough, 17th instant, with loss of an anchor and cable. The Two Brothers, Dickinson, from Sunderland to Wisbeach, put into Hull the 15:h inst. having carried aware• her mast. The brig William, from Rhode Island, on a fishing voyage, w.is lost 12th May, near Cape Forshue. The Ophelia, Wood, of and from Sunderland, coal laden, r.in on shore on Monday morning, near Whitby, during a thick fog, and sunk, but expected to be gut lip. VERSIMP SPOKEN wirtt.—On the 13th July, in Lit. 49. 25. long. 6. 48. the English ship Caledonia, Capt. Cartics e with convicts for Van Dieman's Land, all well: the I sth July, off the Lizard, the French smack Au guste, of Dieppe, from the Hanks of Newfoundl.ind to Dieppe, 30 days from the Hunk, with 800 qls. of green cod fish ; the 17th, the Norway barque ship Emilia, trout limit to Ilamburgh, six leagues S. S.W. P.. Portland, all well—by the Prince Oscar, arrived ut Weymouth. On the 23d ult. off Cape Chatt, in the river St. Law rence, the Active, of Ayr, from England for Quebec, with 260 passengers, and on the pith ult. the Dian's, of Whitby, from Loudon to Quebec ; and the Roberts, of Shields, from England, by the Lynx, arrived at Plymouth. On the 9th inst. the Hibernia. eight days from Cap* Clear, bound to New York, bytbe Sally, Carr, arrived at Plymouth from Aliramiehi. On 10th alt. lat. 40. 20. long. 63.30. ship gensitig ton, 44 days from Liverpool, for Philadelphia, by this ship Criterion, from Liverpool. arrived at New York. June 3d, lat. 40. 43. lung. 65. ship Franklin, 33 days from Liverpool for Baltimore, by the ship Loren. so, from Wales, arrived at New York. Jun 9 of New York, !! days from m tt i . re sh rpoo ip B 1 o fo be r " Ch F a a r i l t6 es u to i n—by tb* schlimer Molly from Point Peter, artlveil at Otoutesett. • 1.10" k t 'k ‘/