The Statesman. — London, England, 1821-05-17 00:00:00

lITIIPM dI Nt . e• L' • , I.VPEIRIAL PARLIAMENT. SWIMS OT LORDS.—Wessosor, MAT 16,, , la the Appeal Case of the "Bari of Jersey 0. Suiltis. - the Judges attended and delivered their: o piaios seriatim, after which further preceediags were mg r o w tt ireriise ed to next Friday. WorliAWSDOlnfit moved for an se rmon,. of all rS3nee imported into and exported from Sid% Callnity Item 17Si to 1110.--Ordeieti. Sir J. Corrasu., Mr. IlLaaa, and others brought up from the Corneas the Stratford Railway Bill, the Manehester-steeps lispinvesient Bill, the Poplar One •Ligliling Bill, *and i variety of Private Bilis, which • wlll4-tend i first time. The Stitch Court of Admiralty Bill went through a C 1 iQttee, and the lesiport was received. • • 1%. Scotch Cants of Sessions Billets* west throng% a Coonnittee, bat some amendment having been made in ;tit provisions, the report was ordered to be received '11.4101101V. —Adjourned. 1 00 MOVIE OF COMMONS.—Weestiort, Mat 16. la consequent* of a ballot fee a Committee to try At merits of the Petition from the City of Limerick, ,the Uallery was not opened till beWpast four. CRIMINAL LAWS. Sir J. MACKINTOSH, in consequence of the busi ness which stood for that night, rose to move that the order of the slay for the second reading of the Bills fa ameliorating the Criminal Laws should be post poned. He had before postponed them till after the Easter holiday% not for his own convenience, but for that of other Honourable Members, and lie must now, being driven from this day, throw himself on the indulgence of his Honourable Friend, and enquire if he would consent to postpone Ills motion which stood for to-morrow, so that the second reading of the Bills in question might then come on. He was induced to make this application. as a small delay might raise objections to the adop tion of the measures which those who were friendly to them would regret. Mr. RENNET was ready to postpone his motion 'which stood for to-morrow, if no other stood in the way for the second reading of the Bills of his lion.l and Learned Friend. The second readings of the Forgery Punishment Bill, the Dwelling-house Robbery Bill, and the Nati gable Rivers' Robbery Bill, were ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. Mr. BENNET postponed his motion which stoosilfer to-morrow, till the 31st of May. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in order to give way so the expected debate on the Cri. initial Laws, posponed the Public Accounts Audit Bill, till Friday se'nnight. NEWINGTON VESTRY BILL. Mr. H. SUMNER rose to submit a motion connected with the Select Vestry Bill. Mr. Deritsoe and Sir It. WlLsoss rose at the same moment with Petitions, which they wished to present against the Bill before the Hon. Member made his mo tion. The SPE.IKER called the attention of the Home to the situation in which be was placed. The practice was to furnish him with a list of names, to be called over in succession. He could not deviate from the course thus marked out for him without taking upon himself a most serious and inconvenient reeponsibilitv. Mr. 11. SUMNER thought it was possible that the Hon. Members who had risen would not think it ne ceteary to present their Petitions after hearing him. — At all events they could not be sure that it would till ti•ey knew the nature of the *motion which he was about to submit to the House, otherwise he would not object to their being presented before he went further. Be thought it would be better that he should go on. afid at all events the Petitions could be presented af terwards. He then described the proceedings which hail taken place on this Bill. lie hail presented a Petition on the preceding slay, which gave a history of what had taken place with a degree of temper an d o f accuracy that was seldom witnessed. Ihe coue taken in the Committee was so different from that which the House had contemplated when it appointed Oat Committee. 01.1 it was his intention to move that tl.ose who bad formed it should be discharged from farther attendance on the Bill. The proceedingsl h id been of such a nature, that if some effectual mea stars were not taken by the House. be should hence forth despair of any order it might make being at tended to in a Committee. Circumstanced as he was. I.e ;nest move that the House should in this particular case resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House toe the Bill; and if the House should refuse to agree to 01% lie must then move for the appointment of another Select Committee. He would recommend that this Oersoulttee (if a ',lett one) should be a small one, and compostel of Members who had no local connection with the Parish, and as far as that could he done. of persons who had taken no part in the discussions en this subject. He moved that the Committee to seisms the Pithiest for considering of establishing a Select Vestry for the Parish of St. Mary Newington Lail been referred, should be discharged from further attendance on the said Bill. Mr. DENISON rose before the question was put. The SPEAKER inquired if the lion. Member o.eant telecom' the motion. Mr. DENISON said No, be did not indeed. The SPEAKER then read the motion. Mr. DENISON then said, before be proceeded to comment on the extriordinary speech of his worthy colleigue, be must remark. with perfect gdod humour, , that the Hon. Oentleaan was so accustomed to carry 101 l measures with a triumphant majority, that when he failed, he thought he had a right to come to the house and• complain of those who might happen to differ' from hint. When the Hon. Oentleman took his, seat, as he hoped he would some day, oe that (the Or ation) side of the House, he would be wore used.* tied himself is a minority, and that would teach him to Heir such disappointments with snore temper. His nos. Prised had spokes of thiemeasure as If it were of no mere importance than a cofomon Road or Turnpike ABU .11, listid it to be of great importance, as affect ilirtki/lights of a very tismeroas body of persons. It lost Sees said that this measure bad been found neers, 144, in eossequenesi of the riotous pricemilegs which had takes' place at the Church. He *towered this sweeten% by recoauting the assailers which bad us-n -k ally attended the Vestries for a coissiderable . o lied. hest Isetbowed were seen. being in setae l astaices •. . . 1 7 N. d o Mk tse. There v... tt wits proposed to build new .4 Select Vestry Bill was first brongk wards of 1,000 persons were there, of whom held up their bawds la favour of the Bill. is this part of hie speech tbs Hon. Member was its' , tempted by the entrance of Ur. Dyson with the Report of the Balletier a Cost` mittee oa the Limerick Election Petittea. Mr. DENISON resumed.—The Pet an ition for the Bill bad been signed by one hundred d six per. sons; of these, six bad since withdrawn their names. three were assessors, and six collectors..of taxes; est was in the hands of justice, or would be shortly, as be bad bad the sisfortaas to break his leg is tryisi to get away tree was a jailer who had boss ashamed from his office. another a Coal-meter who bad bees ropriasaatiod tot s diesedset; twenty those who had signed were assessed leader M. per annum, and forty-seven under 301. Those who had petitioned against the Bill, in number exceeded 1,900. But sometimes it was said yon have the ad vantage in numbers, bat how are you with respect to property ? He would tell the Home bow this stood. The rental of the parish was about 84,00(1/. 'I hose who were for the Bill held property of the annual value of 3,5001. Those opposed to it could select 106 from their body, who held property in the pariah to the amount of 4,5001. yearly value. It would thus be seen that they bad the advantage in property as well as is numbers. The annual Romani of King's taxes collected in the parish was 25.053/. The paro chial taxes amounted to 27,540/. ; to this was to be added for lamps, watching, and highways. 1000/. making the parochial taxes altogether 30,000/. while those paid to the King did nut exceed 25,00a1. It was proposed that taxes to the amount of 341,0001. alsould he rained by the select vestry which was to be invested with a greater power than was eltercised by the Rouse of Commons, and the members of the se lect vestry were to he chosen for life. If ever there was a scheme for imposing taxation without tepresen tation, this was one. lie proceeded to point out other parts of the Bill which were objectionable—men tiuned a petition received by the Committee. which represented the name of the petitioner to have been obtained to the former petition in a very improper and scandalous manner, and concluded by opposing the measure in the strongest terms as most unjust—nnjus tillable. and unconstitutional. Mr. BYNO described the proceeding' in the Com mittee; so far as they had come under his notice, he had seen nothing irregular there, and thought it might be desirable that the old Committee should he revived. Mr. MASK explained same expressions which had fallen from him in the Committee. Mr. Alderman WOOD opposed the motion. The lion. Member should never obtain another Select Com mittee. If he succeeded in discharging the present Committee from attendance, lie should avail himself of every means afforded by the forms of the house to defeat his purpose. Mr. DAWSON thought the course taken by the Hon. Alderman proved what the real character of the opposition to this Bill was. What he had now said was perfectly in unison with the spirit manifested in the Parish. When the Worthy Alderman threatened to stop the whole busisset.a of the country to oppose the motion of the ilonourable Gentleman, lie did no see that this manifested any thiug like a nisi; for fair inquire. Mr. Alderman WOOD and Mr. DawsLiN severally ex plained. Sir F. BURDETT remarked, that the hour was late, and, in order to proceed with the adjourned de bate, he moved, that the debate should be adjourned till Friday. The Marquess of LONDONDERRY said, on Fri day be should feel it necessary to bring on the Com mittee of Supply early in the evening. He saw no reason why it might not e one on to-morrow. Sir F. BUR DETT then altered his motion, by naming Monday for resuming the present debate. Mr. li. SUMNER hoped the (louse would not ac quiesce in the proposed adjournment. He now took more interest than ever in the present Bill. lie felt, after what had passed, that if the House did not inter fere, it would in future be useless to attempt to do busi ness by means of a Select Committee. Daring his long course of Peiliamentary experience, Ise never witnessed such proceedings as those which took place before the Committee. He felt it necessary to speak out on those proceeding.. and lie repeated that if the House did not now interfere, no private Bill whatever could be expect. eel to go on in a Committee up stairs.—(Hear. hear!) — Ile had been long a Member for a populous county, and had perhaps more private Bills passing through his hands than any other individual in that House; but in all his experience lie never saw any thing conducted as the business of this Committee hailbeen. What Isr.onort immediately complained of was, that nothing had as yet been done, owing . to the obstructions which had been made; the Committee had met repeatedly, but only to adjourn again, and to repeat the same at the nest meet ing', He certainly hoped the House would go on now, and not consent to the amendment of the HOB. Bart. Mr. MABEItLY said, as one of the Committee, he certainly hail not gone into it with the intention of op posing the for the sake f main! any delay, bat because lie hail strong objectioons to souse of its clauses. Ile owned that great delay had been caused by the op position offered, but a great portion of that opposition was created by the manner in which the lion. Member conducted himself. As Chairman of the Committee, he ought to have sat quietly and heard the diecnssions fps lug forward ; instead of which he became a common de bater. and ] p ined in every discussion that arose. He hoped the House would not agree to grant a Select Committee of the lion. Member's own choice, to sit upon a question involving the provisions of the consti tution respecting.tlinrchn-ardens and Yestriea. Mr. Serjeatit ONSLOW thought it was unlikely that the promoters of the Bill should have created the'delay complained of. Sir W. DE CRESPIONY said, that the interruptions in the Committee proceeded front the lion. lientleinan's partiality.—(lmuil cries of " Order, and "Chair." The SPEAKER was sure that the Hon. Hentleman would be the first to see that the language lie had used, during his warmth of feeling, was not consistent with the dignity of that House, or of its Members. The question before the House did not at all embrace the canvassing of any Hun. Member's conduct in another place. - Sir W. DE CRESPIONY bowed to the decision of tbs. Chair. Mr. O. BENNF.T. after remarking upon what bad fallen from the Hon. Baronet who spoke last, said that the Bill of the lion. Member for Surrey was a tune jots. Marquess of LONDONDERRY (as an *mkt. s t o od bins) wits sorry to interrupt the l ien. 111embor laugh)--but he going into the 1 PI ET said, . term, as applied to certain ptomaines. no ease geoid it be mere ply applotiSsa to 66 1 Present Bill. A job then it was, ands job be wadi call'it. The Hon. Member then compl.doed that OtOs Clews es the other side made the toostioo of party, and supported it only from party The Hon. Member for Surrey, proposed that a d dte Bill should be taken out of die hands of a regular Contesit tee, and put into wham? Why. Into Ms own. Thil showed that though he could not obtain a majenity et stairs, be bad nothing to do bat to come dews and bring the matter before the body of the How, where be expected to have the nomination of umber Com mittee that woald carry his measure. The (*softy orgies to knovrtbis, because if a Member who usually voted with the majority of that House. could act in such a manner sad be supported by the Ministers, then it was clear that the interests and property of every man in the kingdom were in the bands and power of Ministers themselves. He trnsted the time would sot be far distant, when there would be other places in which to tell the Honourable Member this, and' where its application would be more properly es timated. Mr. SOMERS COX thought the proeeedingi of the Committee bad not been founded upon any prin- 1 ciples of justice, and he should therefore support the lion. Member for Surrey in his motion. Mr. PRICE hoped that if the business was disposed II of it would not be to any distant period, because that would he giving an advantage to the oppoeees of the' measure, who only wanted to delay the proceeding until too late a period in the Session for their final completion. Mr. H. SC SINF.R defended his conduct as Chair man of the Committee. With respect to what harm fallen from the. Honourable Member for Abingdo relative to his speaking in the debates, he had only done so when it became his duty in consetrenee 0 th-ir taking a shape quite contrary to the regulations of Parliament. Mr. CREEVEY said, that it was most toe much to expect that the Hon. Member wood,' col-tent to the po•lponement of the business to Mooll.sy tura. Sir J. GRAHAM said that the llottottrahle Chair man only spoke in the Committee up in points of order. The Honourable Baronet morel an Ames& 'sent, " That the Debate be Adjourned till to-morrow instead of Friday." Sir J. MACKINTOSH wished to state, that if this question was adjourned till to-morrow, he hoped it would not interfere with his motion relating to the Cri• mina! Laws. He had made many sacrifices of lime to other Honourable ,Nlerubtre, and as he expected to occupy a coniderahle portion of the time of the House, he hoped that the sante courtesy would be extended to him. After a few further observations from Sir J. Olta n.tm, Dr. LesIHNOION, Mr. AlAssrteut, M. J. Salm, and Mr. R. ALIIITIN, the House nail under stood to divide Nom the question of adjournment to Monday. For the adjournment. 7 1 ; A g ainst it, $7 Ma jority, 7. Upon our re-admission to the Oallery we under stood, that after the strasgers had withdrawn , an agreement hail been come to, to fix the resumption of the debate for Friday. Time Marquess of LONDONDERRY laid upon the table Copies of the Convention between his Britannic Majesty and the Emperor of Germany, entered into on the 4th of May. Also Copies of certain Papers rela tive to the Austrian Loan. Lord J. RUSSELL presented a Petition from —• Hat field, Printer, of l'ambridge, praying for the Repeal of the Law affecting Libels in Newspapers, as contained in chap. 87 of the 60th of the late King. Ordered to he printed. A Message from the Lords announced that their Lordships had agreed to several pi ivate Bills. Mr. W. SMITH presented a Petition from the Per sons engaged in time Woollen Manufactories, and in the Woollen Trade, praying for the Repeal of the Tax upuo Foreign Wool—Ordered to be printed. Mr. BRIGHT presented a Petition from the several Bankers of Bristol, praying for the repeal of the Usury Laws.—Ormlrred to be printed. WINDOW TAX IN IRELAND. Mr. SHAW, in rising to submit a proposition for repealing the tax upon Windows in Ireland, felt the disadvantage under which he should lithoer in copse quenre of the absence of many of the Irish Members. The lion. Member contended that this tax was col lected in violation of time Union enactments, and that it had decreased not only the value of houses in Ire land, hot the revenue itself had suffered very materi ally by the injurious operation of this Tax. lie hoped the attention of time Chancellor of the Exchequer would be directed to time subject, and he was sure that Hillis tax were abolished, it would greatly strengthen the resources of Ireland. He concluded by storing. si That a Select 'Committee be appointed to inquitet into the expediency of repealing the 56th of George 111. so far as it relates to time Taxes on Windows in Ireland. The CHANCELLOR of time EXCHEQUER ad dressed the House, but in so low a tone of voice as to be inanslible iu the liollery. All we could collect from the Right lion. Gentleman was, that it would be mani festly unjust to the other parts of the kingdom, to itholish this tax in Ireland, at the present period. Sir J. NEWPORT said, considering the late period of the Session, he should advise the Hoe. Member to withdraw his ISIOI1011; because they could not go into a Committee. without raising hopes that you'd rot be realized, at any rate dnring the present sitting of Par liament, and which he thought would calculate to ir crease the distress oy the disappuintmeat that must ensue. Air. III:ME did not think it at all too late it the Session for the purposes of inquiry, and ite should therefore support the 'nation. Ile was sore that if the tax were stmiewitat rltln,.W :Jr revenue would not be at all injured thereby. General iIAILT could not help observing that the miseries under which Dublin was now steering. mere to be cleiedy statibuted to the saki. of the two e.g. tries, and to the operation of this tea. Sir W. DE CRESPIIIINY sapportell the motion. The Marimese of LONDONDItititT ...d. that the 54414401 gnus tan far advanced for any foetid perms of ingairy. If the Commit'st song* tie fONIMAOf lion until the next year. Mr. MONCK thought that in general it was mica to relieve one port et the community At the expewi s o another. Yet it was worth while to consider *helm the City of Dublin was not entitled to souse eo ln ii, ratios. It had in consequence of the"Unleii, Issst d o realm sad suttport of the leading Nobility a i d Gentry of the kingdom. • Mr. SHAW said, he thought he should best vomit the latprest of his constituents by a cempliesee the suggestion of the Noble Marqurs•. He thesee e i, should not press his notion to a divagate%) bat lewd give notice, that early in the tiext Session, he s h a m bring the present subject tinder the coustderashe the House. The Motion WAS then put. and tts:ratieed. Mr. HUM E begged to ask whether, in . anom itite of the arrest of certain individuals, natives of a w lonian Isles, a Petition had not been presented N o , them to his Majesty's Ooecrnmeet, and whether it ea s considered that Natives of the lonian Isles came 'nu. in the operation of the Alien Act ? • Mr. LIOULBURN said, that a Petition such as dm alluded to by the Honourable Meinber, bad certaiuly been presented to the Colonial DepartessenL He cos lewd be was not lawyer enough to be able to answer the other question of the Hon. Meniher. ADJOURNED DEBATE—MANCHEIITER. Sir ROBERT WILSON moved the Order of it Day on the motion of Sir Francis ltudett, relative I. the Transactions at Manchester, on the 16th of :tar $l9. The question on the original motion being pal Ira the Ch a ir, Sir ROBERT WILSON rese.—lt was saws! fa the spoke last us t 4 ide of thellsesete im ec t e l d o i n n . r and ng :a f rn rona e aoidt d icfitt: M htoohtev e rea t oi n si3pen b isenpo e teso r grestiii s ti v :::et l e s r o cessat defendthe people as heirs edirieterinepiire h on e tett.i c etc o vha t ee s se . : l , 7 i c tnat t e sary to tdate all the statements which had been made by the .tier side in answer to the present motion. It was ga t N s. cient to sustain the motion if enough had Walhalla to jaatify the Inquiry, for that alone was the Aiwa( the motion. It had been said, that no one malt in. peach the conduct of the brand Jury of lameaster, of which his Noble Friend (Lord Stanley) was Clesitass. It was po-sible that the Urand Jury had taken as er roneous view of the case. It was possible to state tbk, and yet impute no improper motives to that °nal Jury; but it certainly appeared that they had deelied examining certain circumstantial evidence offered bp person whose Petition be had presented last night. It bad been asked by the other side, " Why, if the cm is so strong, has_there not boo a single convictiee Ist murder?" It was a fact, that upon the Oldham Is. "lest seven or eight Jurymen had declared that ha set the Inquest been broken up, they would have con sidered it their duty to return a verdict of murder. Is this part of the case he could not hut observe that he believed the Coroner had not d srel to act !spool& ewe responsibility. The Hon. and Learned theatiessa bad also asked se Why a civil action had not Iseetleteirk which would raise the principal question r • nun Hon, and learned Members talked as if law awl cheap. He could assure the House, that out si the money snhscribed by the Public on this occasies,the Committee had paid upwards of 1.01101. for mows attending the Oldham Inquest, and 7001. for the trial at York ; so that the Committee had left in their bawls a sum of about I,ioo/. to divide among 600 safferew Had a single conviction been obtained, the arrant from the opposite side of the House would them bare been the other way. It would be said that the Coma of Law were competent to afford redress. He theaght the question did not turn altogether upon the legality or illegality of the Meeting at Manchester. The Ise was to protect, and not to destroy, the subjects tilde realm ; and the true question, was, whether more 4- hence had b.oes used than was necessary.—(Hear ) Sheriff had no right to use unnecessary violence is the execution of process, and even a thief taken is the act of theft could not be lawfully ill-treated. 1k might be apprehended, but to kill him when be tale no resistance was murder in the eye of the law. Vb! had Captain Porten been cundemned fur sari& Simply because his tire upon the people had been multi. awed longer than was necessary. The same res• seising applied even to common soldiers, for a soldier obeyed the unlawful commands of his officer, Obis own personal risk.—(Lond cries of " Hear, bear.")-- It had been stated that the London Committee sr pointed on the occasion, which was the subject of the motion, had sent persons down to Manchester, Else had done that which had a tendency to inflame the public mind. Ile could assure the House this was eat the case, and that the Committee had given strict he structions to the persons in question not to offer e" ore an opinion on the su b j ect to the unhappy al e With respect to the depealtioat illicit bad how Por dnced by the Hon. Member for Dover, it wtessulle k " able that no one of theus bad been prodit is a Court of Jnstice , and tha t one of the deponean self was was a party accused. In contradiction to f o r le• seral subatance of tho se depositions, he bad the We' meat of a highly respectable individual, the Ref. 11r. Stanley. 'lbis tlentleman stated, that on the 412! le question he was at Manc hester, in en upper r•ans whi le 0e c ommanded a view of th e whole area of adios. stated that there was a free communication to . tle. hustings ; and, indeed, Mr. Hay lad himself edeoftea. the same. That a minute or two after the arrival el., Mr. Hunt, there was a c ry of " Here are the soldiers.. That the Yeomanry were then ill siJit ; that they se' iacteas j oiner against a fo e ; that they galloped g paced a 1 3 1 op t ti , ts a t s s i l f u ;Le v y ' w b e u re t the i r unti er p t a h c e e 4w:fa::: over a whom they left apparently of their movements, rentleredescape almost ispipowir. immediate. It That the dispereion of the people was so seemed like n tii%persion by magic. That no .. 1 : 3 ante was offered on the part of the people. esolo hews to shanties I"- lifeless, J•iid by the rapit slight disinclination which was s banners. That previous to this day. he had ed violent expressions; but that the law golige is "r na jd afterw ar ds was strange indeed. The Peal° eke a said big . Idu revenge, because they had, t hey . wthloduleghthtekye (Mr.were Stanley)nnargoe had dd hdreunferdsbctaesdlettosteibra3oll:ll *am as ailed by the I 17 THE STATESMAI Irrrster *Wads 's& hieillit 4- (A of eharelors, sad Ares ittothink roiliest 'onward. op Sir. O. Bi .re. of whom bat so Celllllloll ten busitairer noi r b et , they essit dare over wider* her Is 4. g e ness og bad, and that would erasure all the dee that tr a i t . that *y o 4 je vas a ad. He trusted his Hun. Friend, the Member o certain prscrodisp sad is Dublin. would postpone the consideratios et this car 101111kbora amuse,') Woo %mum a I.li the Wand Jury had takes sae,• dent case. It was possible to state dd., i M improper motives to that Grad tram illy appeared that they had deelieri mob ircausstantial evidence offered by t calf on be had presented last night. It tel the other side, " Why, if the ate übi ere sot bees a single convictio ler gem a fact, that upon the Oldham Is- that it Jurymen had declared that had wee 41 broken up, they would have cue dem :y to return a verdict of murder. Is for r he could not hut observe that be wee er had not d 'fel toad spool& ma drat be Hon. and Learned (heatless' bad Neel a civil action had not lisonsluseek the t the principal question?" • fine Imo, 3letubers talked as if law amyl and assure the House, that oat si the it w by the Public on this oceasise,the they id upwards of 1,04101. for mere, • saw 121 U Inquest, and 7001. for the yid pelt he Committee had left in their heads not EMU. to divide among 600 saw, pla rictiou been obtained, the argils/I sell side of the House would them btu tali F. It would be said that the Cost b y setent to afford redress. He Amok art not turn altogether upon the legal" her le Meeting at Manchester. The Ise bet rid not to destroy, the subjects a* • jes rue question, was, whether more el,. 1 La rd than was necessary.--(Hear )—A o f rht to use unnecessary violence isthe L a cess, and even a thief taken is the p r Id not be lawfully ill-treated. 1k me ended. but to kill him when he math oe t murder in the eye of the law. Wit as dens been condemned fur E nrolee Isis tire upon the people had been cod. ffi an was necessary. The same res Psi yen to common soldiers, for a soldier cs mini commands of his officer, at hit is k.--(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")-- lied that the London Committee sp tl occasion, which was the subject of the m it persons down to Manchester, she rhich had a tendency to inflame the }:.- le could assure the House this was a* . 1 tat the Committee had given strict it 1 o persons in question not to offer We 4 the subject to the unhappy safer" o , 1 the depositions abide had MuPr :. an. Member for D o v er, it wasnesk" . I * of them had been prodatul is a e, and that one of the deponents his" ' 1 F acritsed. In contradiction to th e f . I rof th ose depositio ns, lie had the sr 1 sly respectable ind ividual, the Rer. ilr. 1 s tlentleman stated, that on the day ii 1 sat Manchester , in en upper rams Web o riew of the whole area of a dios. Ile 1 re was a free communication to the I, indeed, Mr. Hay had himself atlnsitted ef 'al a minute or two after the arrival ~ so re was a cry of " H ere are the ldiers; alarm- were then ill sight; that they at slowly, but the ir p ace increased 4 0 1 if they w ere under the influence of o r a foe ; that they ga llo p ed over a soma . . . ft apparently lif eless, and by the rapid ly mews, renoleredescape almost imposur• sersion ad. people was so luistesiis,le.: nispersion by magic. That no r•i red on the part of the people • clopt i er & A des the illation which was Silesia 10 hat previous to this day. he had 14 '. _ L t . ,: .scions; but that the fang' ar.."76i as strange inde ed . Thep eople 1 8161 .. 1 • A b o o s tosce.: 11110 they had, they sa id. rote unarmed nd Cedes . aefra That l ' . Ir. ( multitude,ha ad heard hr Ca tlin. ...thiss had sees ~_ i by the he M P - 16, 1 0 111111 o r the rebbk an 60111 it did I elevreil that th irate 111 it re* Om ti bete% vertu resist- kiiied wet % not Ws weld o prom rge4 int. Dilate pit WI drOild etittir the 14 tball Sower -is on ihrri a 01