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wo I fi)mptriat Varlialutilt• HOUSE OF LORDS. MONDAY. TM 21. The Marquis of C H 01. MO NDELEV delivered the Answer of his Majesty to the Addresses of this Douse. voted on Friday The K I Nt: thanked the lords for their loyal addresses, in which they only anticipated his feelings with respect to his much lamented brother. 1116 Nlajesty received with satisfaction their agiurance of concurrencein measures for the dispatch of public • business. The Marquis COB XWA LLIS delivered the answer of her Royal Highness the Duchess of Bent to the message of con dolence. Thu above answers were ordered to be enteral nit the Journals. Lord AUCKLAND presented a petition from the prisoners for debt in the King's Bench Prison. praying that the Bills which expire to morrow may be continued. The Noble Lord was anxious the prayer of the petitioners ini4ht be granted, otherwise swim inconvenience must atise. The Noble Lord added, that it was his inteition, early in the new Parliament, to move for a . Committee to enquire into the state of those laws which relate to debtor and creditor. De expressed a hope that a subject so stiportant would receive due attention from the Douse. The Petition was read and laid on the table. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a Petition from the pnsonati for debt in the Borough of Liverpoel, praying that the Insolvent Debtors' Bill may not expire without af:orling them relief. The Noble Marquis expressed a hope that their Lord• ships would adopt a temporary Act, and that the late Act might be continued, if it were only hie the purpose or compelling Par- Harbert to enter into consideration of that important subject, with a view to passing an efficient legislative ptocision. The petition was read, and ordered to lie on the table. He then presented a Petition from the Fleet Prism, London having the same object.—Read, and laid on the table. Two private bills were brought up from the Commons by Mr. Boublon, and others, and read the first time. Adjourned. TUESDAY, FE8.21. BILLS FROM THE COMMONS. Mr. laishington and other Nlwinliers from the Commons, brought up the Bill to remedy certain inconveniences in Local Jorisilictions. Also a DM to continue to the 25th of June, 182 j. such Laws as would expire before that period. Also the Bill to continue tht.• Mutiny Bill. Lotil John Russell brought up the Corrupt Boroughs Stivetision Bill. W) line brought up three Private and Local Bills. The above were severally read the first time.—Ad journed. WEDNESDAY. EEL 23. SUPPLIES. The Earl of LAUDERDALE adverted to the Resolutions of the other House in the Committee of Supply. and gave notice of his intention to-morrow to submit a proposition rot those Rev). lotions It was not his desire to embarrass Gmernwent in the steps they were taking, but he really did wish they would give their minds to some measure. declaring the extraordinary pro ceeding to which he alluded should not be a precedent. The Noble Lord knew that the constitutional measure was to bring the grants of public money before the House in a Bill of appro priation, but in the present instance their Lordships would have no nie:ms olconsidering whether they ought to consent or not to any expenditure the other branch of the Legislature might think proper to make. If it was the pleasure of the House to permit this irregularity to go on, he could not avoid it, at the same tune be looked fur a declaration that the proceeding was not to form a precedent. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said there would be great weight in the observation of the Noble Lord, if it had not been stated in the answer to the Royal Message. that the House would can' cur in arrangements proper to meet the exigencies which might arise in the recess of a new Parliamert. The House indeed, in tae present instance, was pledged i to allow temporary advances to made for supplying the Public Service during the interval referred to. The attention of the House had been called to the M-asage, and he did not conceive they could object to those tem po.ary arrangements the Noble Earl noticed. The Niarwini of LANSDOWNE supported the objection of his Noble Frieud. This was the only instance in which Perlis. went had been called upon to provide for their own dissolution. Tire Home abandoned its duty. if it gave up the right of judging of the anpropriation of any sum of money granted by the other ki use of Parliament. The Earl of DONOUGH MORE called open the House not dispense with their Parliamentary CODUOIII of the public mousy which the Lords had always asserted. All that Parlianien:t= collect from the Message was. that a certain time was to be given for the discassion of mressary measures. and it did not follow that the House was to dispense with Parliamemary proceeding eltoethee, Tire Earl of LIVERPOOL did not rise to prolong the dis cussion. He was nut warranted in saying that a Message from the Crown was a jusitication of this line of proceeding. A Message from the Crown would not bind any Noble Lord. On the contrary, any Lord was tree to say be would not agree to the proceeding, but the House had agreed by its answer to the Met sore, to meet the exigencies 'luring the present and a new Par liament. and they could not depart tiom the measure adopted on this occasion. After a taw words in explanation from the Earl of Donoughs mote, die Earl of Lauderdale's notice was made an order. MUTINY BILL. Earl GROSVENOR ruse, on the order for the second reeding of the Mutiny Bill, and expressed a wish to know whether it was the Noble Earl's intention to reduce the additional military forc.:S It would be a satisfaction to receive some intimation of such an intention. The Earl of LIV ERPOOI, was not prepared to say what the amount of the army was to be. All would be stated when the Annual Mutiny Bill came under discussion. It would then be for the Noble Lord to state his objertione. lie only rose on this mission to say. that any addition to the army made (sat autumn was provided tor by the sums granted by Porn:own. The Bill was read a *woad t ime. The other Bills were forwartkil, and the House adjourned. TILITESDAY. Es:a. 24. RESOLUTIONS OF ^ TIIE IIOES . K OF COMMONS. The LAW. of I.AUDEROALK ro , e, in pursuance of his notice, to make 4 proposition to the House, on the subject of We thews of the House of Commons, which will not collie he finie this Noose for divussion under an Appropriation Act. It bad been the practice, when grants were arloptul, to ripply some of the stills of money so voted by Sill of Appropriation, which came up to the Maws of birds. The Cumirittix of Supply of the other if 0u..! had. in the present instance, voted sums which r e m a ined unsppropriated. Tr.c moment l'arliament should he die oibed, sue.' grans would be mere waste paper.—lt War for the nest Parliament to apply the sums thus voted in a distr.:tit u dew there is en Act of Appropriation. The other House had ~ .ken upon them to say, tutat certain pay. snow, u lid: the law of the land said should expire on the Sc. tribe of the Crown, we-e to continue. The Annuity of 35,0nti1. granted to the Prince's of Wales. and other sums of money, weic tilbimull of by a single Restilution of the other Halse. fhe !louse of Commons had, liewever, broken through precodent. The Noble Earl concluded by moviug three Uumliition, stating in sulpitantc, that the !louse of Commons, Iliformed pr his iNfiljuoy's 31inistess of a dissolution of nubs. THE NATIONAL REGISTEIL incur, had by cettain Resolutions appropriated money, which could only be legally appropriated by Act of Parliament, and thereby had preceetled in a manner unprecedented. The EA It I. of LIVE It POO I said, he bad no objection, with a view of meeting the proposition, to move an amendment: The Noble Lord consequently proposal to insert the billowing. This (louse is induced, in consequence of the state of pub. lie business, to concur in the votes of money for services speci fied in the Resolutions, although no Act of Appropriation passel." LORD LAUDERDA LE's motion, as originally made, was negatived. It was then put with the Amendment and agreed to. BARNSTAPLE. ELECTORS The EARL of LAU I/Elt DA LE presented a Petition from the Mayor and Burgesses of Barnstaple against the Writs' Sus pension Bill, and praying to be heard by Counsel at the Bar. The EARL of CARNARVON opposed the claim of the Pe titioners to be heard by counsel, on the ground that it would delay the Bill. The Earl of Lauderdale and the Lord Chancellor were of opinion the Petitioners had a right to be heard. The House divided on the question. For hearing Counsel 12 Contents.—Ageinst hearing Counsel li Not Contents. The Petition was consequently received, and Counsel ordered to attend tomorrow—Attiostmed. rain iv. Fen. 25. MUTINY BILL. Earl GROSVENOR mat, on the third reading . of the Mutiny Bill, and repeated his objection to it, principally on account of no provision being made to reduce the additional three. De could not suffer Parliament to be dissolved without adverting to the State of the Finances. Looking also to the State of public aff,irs, and the course of events which must take place next year, he coull not omit recommending conciliatory mea- Komi. There is no man among us who has not heard with feeling' of horror the crime committed at Paris on the Duke of Berri, and these crimes meditated by evil disposed persons if report be true, :n this country. No man can look at these outrageous acts without feeling that the absurdity can only be equalled by the enormity. It' who assassinated the Duke de Bern acted from vengeance, they took to themselves the attributes of the Almighty. If was a political crime nothing could be more absurd, because nothing could be more likely to proluce oppression and arbitrary power. Having said thus much, I will beg the Noble Lords not to impute all these attennts to die wickedness of the people; but to consider whe ther the bystzni adopted by his Majesty's Ministers may not have introduced that spirit of disaffection into the country which men will feel. The Earl of LAUDERDALE here called the Noble Earl to order. He observed—•• I cannot sit quietly and hear it. That statement is almost an apology for the crime. I was so shocked, that I could not refrain from calling the Noble Lord toorder.', Earl GROSVENOR.—The noble Lord has mistaken my meaning if lie thinks that is my object. I can assure him my nbject is, at the end of Parliament, to reco tttttt end conciliation and avert discontent. I can have no other view than the benefit of my country. I have no other object. (Hear, hear.) It was well known this country was strongly connected by alliances with foreign countries, and what edit:n.ll other nations might aff,.ict England, The Noble Earl adverted to the present state of Spain, Fiance, the North of Italy, and Germany, which to a degree was occasioned by coercive measures. He expressed a hope that the future proceedings of Government in this country might lead to the amelioration of the present state of society. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, it was generally with pain he interrupted any Lord in that House, but on thu occa sion he felt pleasure, because he had given his Noble Friend an opportunity to explain his meaning. The Bill was then read a third time. Lord SIDMOUTH laid on the table returns setrecting:rants in Reversion, in answer to an Address. The Noble Viscount also produced Reports of the State of the Ships and vestals in his Majesty's Service. HOUSE OP COMMONS, AIOIIIDAY. FEB. 91. The Speaker took t h e. Chair at hail•past three; after which several Hroubers took Ole (whs. Loot, MORPL•TI I retuned the answer of the Dualiras of Kent to the yundoleoce of the House oo the death of the Duke of Kent. DROITS OF THE CROWN. Mr. BROUGHAM said, it would be in the recollection of the House that in ISIY be called their attention to the Omits of the Crown. which at all limes were of great importance as bring the source of gre ,t influence, and such fund being under the controol of the Crown, such 111011 in had now become of great importance, the demise of a Sovereign having taken place. Mr. Pereeval resisted the motion on the grounds that it ens not right to disturb the arranger's( nt 'nude with the existing Sovereign, at the same time admitting the propriety of the House having informal tam the subject. Ile moved fur returns of ail Droll, of the Crown, &c. not under the commit of Porliament siuee the accession at his lute Majesty. The CHA NCELLOR or the EXCH EQU ER said, there could be no objection to produce the account of the Druits, but there would be some difficulty in connecting the uccount of the four and half per cent, Wen India Dui les.—Agreed Mr. BEN N ETT presented a Petition from the Freehold ers, lire. in Cape liretun, praying, that so any contemplated transfer of &c. the it case may be considered. Mr. ABERCROM II X presented Petitions from Insolvent Debtors in the Horough jail, Liverpool, and so the Fleet, praying fur the contirmance of the Insolvent D:blo , ►' Ara. Mr. SCARLET moved the srcund reading of the Local Jurisdiction Bill. A Member wished it to be postponed.. Mr. SCARLET,' said, elan was c omplained airtight be the object of enteadmeut ; he should be sorry to ri,k the 141,ing int Heald a second time and ordered to he committed now ))))) mated aecordin A ly. Repos I bs ought up, agreed to. and the Bill ordered to be lead ...third nine.) MALT DU fIES. Mr. PRIMROSE prrwented a Petition from Brewers Distillers, Ste. of the county of Sterling, compluining of the unequal operation of the new Malt Duties, and of the Duties being lowed without any intimation being given of the in tention of Miiii,ters to the Petitioners. They and the agricultural interval had every reason to complete. Petition read, when. Lord A HA Al I I.TO Nt alai complained of the New Acts on the iiiihjtet and the recent effects of theta on barley and malt. The duty 011 moll, in cuntetioenee of the measures of bpi ttrioton, now exceeds the price of the article itself, The CAIINCELLOR of the EXCIIINU ER had no objection to any eriquiri being instituted suits the tittetiiun. Pctitioll ordered it/ he pamit..l. The CH A NCELLOR uf the EXCII I%QU LK moved fur itecouutg of all Irish Trra.ury Uiu. uutotuuding and ultplovided (tn.—Ordered uud pre..ntril. SEARCH VON, A lON . Sir R. WILSON asked what number of arms bud been seised under the New bill, dittitiguiskin4 those seised b) night. find the Nlinigent tiny objection to produce o count.? Mr. B. BATHURST replied, dint as yet the returns had heal uunde. Lord PALM ERSTON rose to move for leave to bring in a Bill simply to coatignie the Molloy Act, from the VCR Mass.'s to the 21th June. lie should not recite the numbers of the atm.—the Dill would he simply tor a coutinuuns e of the Mutiny A t provisimes. Colonel DA/ Pi emit,' not omit the opportunity of els pressing his disapplobation of the large military force which, in u time of piolound peace, it wits deemed essential by Ministers still to keep up. Why wt re not some rtamois assigned fur keeping up such large forces ? Taint Mosul. tuary 111reuugs which created alarm with some, had subsi sted; had the military power formerly existing had been itityiy sufficient to iiiii ain security. fie saw uo reason f..• h elllllllll/U0 midday, establishm. nts, The civil power, wills very little ussaance, was competent to internal protect Bum This had been proved. Mr. CALC it A rt. proissted against the large army, and csouplained of the projected dissolutain of Poratiment with out first bringing forward the regular business. He feared that the reason was because it was thought the present House would not agiee to a large military estaistishment, civil list, &c. . Lord I'ALNIERSTON said, he had not gone into detail, because h.: thought by abstaining from Such course he was best consulting the wishes nod . otiventence. nab respect to the augmentation of the force and the restrictive &amulet, he bad every reason to believe that they bad the approba tion of the people at large, and that had they nut been proposed the Ministers would have iseeu guilty of a dere. fiction of their duty. (Wear.) Mr. Hurst expressed himself against the large force, and trusted that straw one would suuve to reduce it.—Nlutiuu agreed to. • •.; CORRUPT BOROUGHS. Lord J. RUSSELL uioved the aecund reading of the writs suspension bill. Sir t. BURRELL trusted that the Noble Lord (Castle. reagh) would use his inllsiesice to get the bill passed. Mr. CALCItArf observed, that it was in vain to ex. pest the IS:II would pass the other house. They were pureeing **tootle course—but he was iu earnest its wieb ing the writs not to be issued. Hr thought the Hones hoe ought to act for themselves. and address the discus, praying that writs for l'esiryis, Grampound, and Camel turd, might not be issued. This, he couteaded, was the correct coarse in such a case; and he hoped the mode of proceeding would be changed, and au addict proposed. This muse is recommended ill Mr. Hatsell's book. He was friendly to the principle of the bill. Mi. C. W. WYNN said they could not discuss what would be the prubaole reboil of proceeding in the other Thai doctrine was inust dangerous, and the pins. ciple of the address was calculated to overthrow the Cuiestitutiuss and the whole frame of Parlianieut.—(Hear To accede to such ass Address, was to recoguise, that the Crown could suspend the issuing of Wilts at its pleasure.—(Cheers.) Was the House prepared to record such a reeognitioss.—(Cheers.) He trusted not, though he was as ready as any one to maintain the dignity of dust House; but Le maintained that no place could he deisitVell ut the tight of retin g 31ensbers without the CUllbrill Of Klieg, Lords, and Culissitlitlit.—(Heat, hear I) He was frielisliy to the Bill, and it pi esenied the only legal c se sit proreihug. Mr. BROUGHAM (bedded whether. in the present state of the House and the l'arlivissent. it would be ad visabie to ptueeed wtlh such a reange as the Bill eon. templates'. He thought they had nut suflicivest evidence to adopt sit swoon aN aiteratiess. lie did not agree with au Min. Member (Mr. Wynn) that an address wussid have the edeet described 1 it gave the Crown no stew powers but the precedent WAS dangerous. He however thought he Hens. ought to show 'Wale art of clemency in favour of bit . M. Lopez, who seemed to have experienced no very lenient sentence. The offence was not venial, but they could nut say that it was extremely rare. Mr. SCARLET f thought it would nut be very delicate for list House to intes fere in behalf of Sir M. Lopez. He slid not tissue the sentence too severe. They were apt to declaitu Mount such offences, hut it was ru oplisiou that they were silo* and lenient in punishing. Whatever others might thiuk, the Judges did not approve of such proceesliugs. Sir J. YORK said, that Swann ought to have been in. troduced iu the revs 11111 l eudations to arts of .clemenee. The said Swatin was convicted ota a " cancelled draft." Mr. O. W. HA ILVEY thought the easier of individuals had been nufstirly breught forward to meet the principle of this Hill. He thsinglit there was sufficient ground for witholding writs, particularly Carnelford. It was now sturepresented, and lie did not apprehend that the Con. Attunes& had etdiered much by the 96 voters not bating freels oppun tied) to receive 400 (.each for their motes. Lord CA a'ILEItLACH admitted that there w;.l • prima fimic case against each borough. The Sill was strung our; it weld to give to another Parliament now what was eosins - the euueitleration of this Parliament. Sir J. 1119 hi lOSH observed that it was lair to suspend the writs in the cases before the House—it was only con. doming what hail been arranged during this and the lid Starnes, the writs having been withheld. Lord CASTLLHEAOH explained. Lord J. HVaaLLI. defended the Bill. He was anxious to pi ells the Hill, as the eyes of the country were hunted towards the House ; and the measure would prove the sincerity of the House, in desiring to pursue the punish. anent and comment of corruption. He founded his mei: sere on the precedent of Shaftesbury. He thought Sir M. Lopes and others slid nut merit the sympathy endea voured to be excited in their favour ; the poor, neeessit• outs, and Spoonful electors were less culpable. Mr. BERN A I. said a dew words. The Hill was thou mid 4 second time, sod ordered to be committed to-marrow. Lout PALMERSTON brought in the Mutiny Act Conti. filiation Dill. Reed a first and bet:mid time, and mitered to be cu 111111 l ited tu•tnotrow. CIVIL 1..1 , 17.—THE: QUEEN. The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER having moved that the House resolve itself into a Cotollut.ce to sect:lye the proposition of a vote on account of Civil List Contingencies. M IC ME said ha lutist again trespass on the House to ascertain, if possible, whet course it was intended to pursue suspecting the Queen. The Noble Lout (Castles reagh), when the subject was inantinned 011 a former night, evaded the lupin% u well as ouniug the high