The National Register. — London, England, 1821-09-03 00:00:00

sent. The ollicer, Lient. Gore—he was in fact sub lieutenant—gave the orders for the clearing away of the people. They were not ordered to use violence; he had said they were obliged to use violence in their endea vours to clear away the people. He did not see any magistrate; he did not know the magistrates. The Coroner's clerk then read his minutes over to the witness. 'f he Coroner next said, that he had received a letter front Col. Lygon, dated Kitialusbride-barracks„ stating that Corporal Haywood and Trumpeter Farmer had been served with summonses, and would attend ; but that the officers were absent. They would be served, and he doubted not that they would be in attendance when the jitrynext assembled. Mr. Heraion said, he could undertake positively to promise that these would be in attendance when the jury next assembled. John Farm :r, trumpeter, was then sworn and exa mined. He did not know what trumpeter was on duty at Cumberland-gate. He did not see the party go out, our come in. He was not there; he did not see who was there. The youngest trumpeter in the troop was aged at • he was named Frederick Salamon ; that was, he was t hel youngest appointment. There was no trum peter named Bishop. There was a learner of that name, but he had never known that person to go out with the troop. Bishop was not at the battle of Waterloo. He was about 18 years of age. The lad Bishop was not employed to do duty at the barracks—but he was not siositively acquainted with this fact. He did not know who was Inc orderly corporal on the 14th inst. The minutes having been read offer to the witness, he signed the document and withdrew. William King, No. 18, Great Wild -street, Lincoln's Inn Fields, sworn —He saw a young gentleman, whom he afterwards understood to be an officer, and his horse's head was towards Cumberland-gate. This officer quite wantonly, as witness conceived, for every thing was per fectly quiet, and i.o stones were throwing at the time, he presented his pistol over his bridle arm towards the peos hle. When witness saw the pistol presented he changed is position one pace, when at the same instant the de ceased fell. Ile stood so close to Honey that he did not know whether the contents of the pistol were intended for himself or the deceased. He saw the Bash, and he was so close to the persou who fired that he had every ()poor:unity of reccanizing his features as well as the pis tol with which he had fired. When he had discharged the pistol he rode immediately amongst the soldiers. He was a very young man, and wore no cloak aim mantle. Witness retreated and went down Oxford-street. When the firing had ceased he came up again and saw the sante officer arranged in Cumberland -street, inside the trum peter, in the rank. He saw him conversing with the trumpeter and a private of the corps in the rank on the near side, whom he addressed with great familiarity, and occasionally laughing. He had since had an oppOrtunity of seeing the same officer at the Horse Guards. Last Sur.day week he law him there, when the Life Guards were relieved by the Blues. He does not know his name, but unless he was disguised he should be able to recog nise his person any where. It was between eleven and twelve o'clock on Sunday week when he saw him. Corporal Thomas Coulson, of theist regiment of Life Guards, was next called in and sworn. He belonged to Captain M'Neale's troop. He knows nothing touching and concerning 'the death of Richard Honey. He was orderly corporal on the 14th August. Capt. M•Neale's troop is Troop C. He does not know the names of the men who were commanded by Lieut. Gore on that day. lie does not know the men. He does not know all the men of his troop personally. Ile received orders to send a certain number of men out on that day, and he sent the first he saw ; in the hurry he could not tell who they were exactly. It was his duty to see whether the men were present on the parade every evening. He believes some of the melt were wounded on the 14th; but he believes they were all present on the next eveuing pa rade. He is not sure upon that point. He could give the names if be was at home. In answer to some further questions, he expressed himself willing to give every assistance he could to the Jury, and was directed to attend on Friday. 'I he Coroner said, he understood Mr. Ex-Sheriff Par kins and his servant were waiting to be examined.— The Ex-Sheriff was then called. Joseph Wilfred Parkins, of in, Bridge-street, Black friars, sworn. The procession went mitt with great so lemony and order until it arrived at Kensington turn pike-gate, near the church. When I arrived at Church lane, I tound the place blocked nip with dung-carts and waggons, and a great concourse of people standing round and upon them, who cheered me, and exclainied—"We will go to the Coy." Lord Hood, who was very near, spoke to me on the impediment and obstruction of the funeral, and suggested the propriety of sending a mes sage to Lord Liverpool, to communicate to him the awkward state of die affair, and the utter impossibility of getting up Church-lane. I was requested to bear that information to Lord Liverpool, o hers refusing so to do, A gentleman offering to accompanying me, I proceeded to Lord Liverpool's, where I met Mr. Wilmot, who, I think, said. " Lord Liverpool is not witliiii." 1 them informed hint (lie knew who I was well) I had come from Keir-iiigton Church, where the funeral processions was totally stopped, and that it was hardly impossible to proceed through Church-lace; if they did iwrsist in going that way many lives would inevitably be lost ; and that those who persisted in it would have to answer for the same. Mr. Wilmot said lie would communicate that information to lend Liverpool. The reniatniog part of Mr. Parkiiis's evidence, was wholly without in terest or novelty. Joseph Thous servant to Mr. Parkins, was next called, and corroborated his master's testimony in its leading particulars, Thomas NVilson was sworn.—His evidence in sub stance was the same as has already been before our r e aders from,other witnesses. The Court then adjourned till two o'clock on Friday. THE NATIONAL REGISTER [NI PITH DAY.] On Friday, soon after two o'clock, the Coroner entered the room, and the Jury being called over, and answering to their names, Lieutenant Poland was sworn.— He was present at the Queen's funeral, but knew nothing whatever concerning the death of Richard Honey. He did not see any indivi dual tire a pistol, but heard the reports of pistols. He had heard of Honey's death, but knew nothing more of it.— To a question from a Juror he said lie had two brothers, one in Germany, the other at school. Joseph Bingham and George King were then examined, bat no new fact was established by either. As soon as the examination of King was ended, the Co roner was informed that Capt. Oakes was in attendance. He was immediately called in and sworn. Mr. Adolphus applied to the Coroner to inform Captain Oakes, that lie was not bound to answer any question that b ad a tendency to involve himself in • criminal pro seention. The Coroner immediately told Capt. Oakes, that he certainly was not bound to answer any question that bad that tendency. Captain Oakes proceeded to state, in reply to the ques tions of the Jury, almost all of whom took a part in exa mining him, that he had himself no knowledge of Honey's death; a detachment of the Guards was under his tom mend at the Queen's funeral ; Lieut. Gore does not belong to his troop ; does not know whether Lieut. Gore had any Wirer to assist him, nor whether he has sit present any leave of absence. Lieut. Terry commanded at Hyde Park Corner; saw the procession enter Hyde Park; does not know whether the gates were opened by the soldiers.— He then proceeded to state, that he was assailed with brickbats and stones previons to coming to Cumberland Gate, but there his party were so violently attacked, that he was astonished how the men kept on their horses; from that moment the men were in constant and excessive den pr- He did not hear the Riot Act read. Juror.—By whose orders did the soldiers fire t Witness.—l commanded the party, and if any orders were given, it may be presumed they were given by me; and I wish to know am I to answer a question that may lead tonlifiletfillesi Mr. Adolplus.—He deellites answering. The Jtltestwho put the question desired that the whole answer should be tares down. The Coroner said it yrs. sumeeemary ; it was sufficient to say the witness dielined answering the question. The witness then proceeded.—After the hearse had en tered the Park, he passed It, and by great exertion suc ceeded it opening Cumberland-gate. Lieutenant Gore's squadron' was on' the other side of the gate. and might have assisted: Witness's first order was to assist in bring ing the procession through the Park, Cumberland-gate, and the Edgware-road, which *as the prescribed route, from which it had been previously forced by the mob; did not see it forced; but these were the teems of his orders. He first joined the procession at Kensington, and told Sir Robert Baker he was come to assist him. He saw the procession turn into the Park, and Mowed He supposed he was following Sir Robert BakeV. A Juryman here oh d, that several officers had been examined, and stated that they could not tell the names of the Guards who had been on duty that day—he hoped Captain Oakes could do it. Captain Oakes said, I am sorry I cannot :mist you— the men are called on duty by letters. and not by their names; and after the duty is over, I do not know that the names can he ascertained. Tire orderly corporal calls the roll. In reply to questions from a Juror, the witneu said, he did not tell Sir Robert Baker that be would obey him, bnt that he would assist him to bring the procession by the prescribed route. If Sir Robert Baker said be did not want assistance, witness would ha►e returned; and had Sir R Baker, asked him to stay an hour longer than he himself thought necessary, he should have probably have complied. Sir, iubert Baker communicated to witness his intention of taking the procession through the city, if necessary, and said he would take the r sponsibility on himself. This did not accord with the orders given to witness, and, In conse quence, requested of Sir R. B. to suspend the execution of his intention until he (the witness) should communicate with highi.r authority. The witness's orders being to assist the civil power in going a prescribed route, he did not think himself justified in going any other. Sir R. B. agreed to suss pend the execution of his intention t witness In consequence dispatched Lieut. Storey with a message. lo reply to a question from a Juror, he stated that Lieut. Storey had not returned with an answer before the proses. Sinn entered the Park.—The orders for t h e procession were given by Government, and be did not conceive that either Sir IL Baker or himself had any posse, to deviate from the route prescribed. Understoood from Sir Baker that it wns his own act to deviate f the prescribed .route, and thought it disobedience of orders. There were two of his men sent Irmo the ground quite ine.spacitated. The nest day there were thirty seven men un the sue,erin's list ; and nn further enquiry it wasfouod that forty.one hod been wounded; right horses had been wounded, and all this was done before any firing had taken place, at least almost the whole of it. When he considers his responsibility for the lives en. trusted to his care, he scarcely thinks himself justified fir. fur the forbearance he used. There are two of the men still in the hospital. The steadiness and regularity of the men were far beyond what could have been expected. Witness said brick-bats were thrown at him with great •iolence on his first joining the procession at Kensington, and the people shouted " Victory, victory—thank God we have beat them once." A Juror—l believe that was after Sir Robert Baker had promised the people that the prore,simi should go through the city. Wituess.—l can't tell what prom'ses Sir R. Baker made. The witness, in answer to the quest' of several 3usiirs, said, there were few stones thrown till he advanced to Gros senor-gate f from thence it continued to Cumberlandsgate, where it was so violent that he entered Ozfurd-street under a shower of brick-bats from every direction, and on arriving at Ty burn•gate he found a mob on both Sinks, one behind the iron railing, another behind a hart ier of waggons, nod it trunk of a tree was placed behind Tyburn-gate to prevent its loving forced; these positions were so strong, that to submit to the attack made by the snob would be to dice hi, squadron every man, and the mob attacked ss itit such secu• rat', that the pistol became the only alternative ; and as far as he could observe, they were first discharged in the air wish a view rather to intimidate than to retaliate. The waggons were removed firm the Ettgeware-road, after ah.ch the witness retired. telling She on.igipirnte he supposed there was no further OCCIII4OII for Ishii. _ Coroner.—Werc any of the men that had been on duty absent from the muster that ons made for the inspection of the *tinniest_ . . Witness.—None, to agitate/ledge, except those who were wounded. The wine* said, be did not see the men or hones who weia wounded t the number OM reported by the proper officer•. He did nut :see any of the mob cut. The first firing proceeded from the head of his own detachment, close to him. He never told Sir It. Baker he ties willing to go with the procession the way be should choose. When Captaiu Oakes's evidence had been read over, a Juror wished to know what became of Lieut. S.orey, from the time that he went to tiw Horse Guards ! Caps. Oakes mid, he old out retuiu autil niter the proves. sits! bad entered into the Park._ A Juror.—llid you consider Lieutenant Gore under your command. Capt. Oakes.—l bad not the particular command of that detachment, but wheu I came to where the detachment was, if I had given any word of comrisand, of course Lieut. Gore and his men would have obeyed it. A Jaror.—Did the firing continence with Mr. Gore's de tachment Captain Oakes.--•Certainly Dot. A Juror.—Did you give orders to fire Captain Oakes.—l hare already declined to answer that quest ton. . _ The Coroner.—He cannot be obliged to answer such question, mid nothing should he inferred from it one way or the other. Mr. Adolphor.—lf be is the person who gave the order he wweld, by answering, Implicate himself r and if he told that imy other person guse the order, he would eqesily subject himself to a criminal prosecution. No Imo before& Spisuish loquisition would answer such a question. The Coroner.—Certainly not. He cannot be bound to owner such a question. A Jerur.—Were you wounded on this occasion ? Witness.—l was oot wounded, but I was severely struck several times. I received a blow from one brick-bat which must have broken my head if I had rot it helmet us. A Juror —Yoe have said, Captain Oakes, that you bid other orders besides lboae which you received from Sir R. Biker? Capt. Oakes.—l had other orders. Juror.— Were lisi:se orders to act ist opposition to the civil power? Mr. Adolphak—lt is impossible that any such orders could be given or acted upon. If the military had acted in oppo• skims to the civil power, they would have been guilty of ae. tool rebellion. The Corooer.—l suppose Capt. Oakes had orders from government as to the route of course ; boot be did not con duct the procession. 'flat was tne province of the hernial and not of the military. Caph,in Oakes then si A ned his deposition. prom bore was the neat s.vorn. The Coroner said, Mr. Gore, you are not by law boun.l to answer any question that may criminate yourself. Mr. Gore then said, I Jo not know any thing touching and concerning the deal , ' of Richard H iney. I was out dutron the Mho( August. I took s station at Cumber land Gate. I had thirteen men tinder my command. There were twelve privates and a trumpeter ; I mean to include two corporals in that number. I did nut wear a cloak; I was accoutred in field-day order; it is quite up tional on such occasions fest the officers whether they will take pistols or not. I was nut provided with pistols oil the lith of August. It was a short time after I came to Cuie• begland Gate that I discovered I had no pistols. I then dismay also that I had no cloak. rdiscovered that I had 44 cloak nor pistols at the same time. The shay rag is ge that it is necessary to lift it up before I can discover whether my cloak is there or not, if it is rolled up properly. I did remark, when I discovered it, that my servant had sent the oat without cloak or pistols. I never had carried pistols before that day. I might have had them in the riding school: I have been discharged from the riding school about fifteen months. I certainly consider myself entitled to carry pistu!s. I do not consider my servant was censurable for not furnishing me with pistols. I felt no disappointment; I merely stated the fact. I did not borrow a pistol on that day. I do not know the names of the corporals with me on that day. neither do I know the names of the men. I beg to observe in explanation, that the detachment was ordered out in a very hurried manner from the barracks, and therefore I had no opportunity of observing them. I cannot tell what the age of the trumpeter was I cannot tell whether his age was 20 or 60. I forget whether I had sal conversa tion with the trumpeter oil that day. I might have bad IMO or three words with hint, but HO particular converse. lion. He rode alter me—not along side. I dad not bore ow a cloak on that day. I did not see may luau in my detach ment offer me the loan of a pistol on that day. I believe one did offer me the loan of a cloak. I can't any whether I was at the head of the detachment when we left the 1 barracks or nut. I rtn!e sometimes before and sometimes behind it. Ido not think the trumpeter rode along side of me then. I believe he did on our return. I do not ' recollect hearing a cry Bonn the people of o there go the ' two butchers together." I was present when the regiment was inspected. I was then mounted on the same horse as on the 14th. I was in Citinlo•tland-stieet after the pi o. cession had passed into the Edgware•road, at the latter part of the day. Do nut know at w hat time I have no re collection how long it was after the procession passed. I I was dig eee i e sed about two hours and a half atter the wore-- sion passed—after it was all over. I was not actually in C berland-street myself, except to speak to Captain Oakes. I will swear that I Wit 3 not Hoare with my party and the trempeter by my side. 'l'll the to—t of ans le •..i -lertion 1 11411 too eon% equation es iilt all of C..paadt t/..k.'s party in Ciiiiihei land caret. Scverat of 11,s 1111'11 I'Vl at a ..t` I KOlitilli•ll ill the allfgartalea report. I PaW the II 'l, el ad t one of them beaten inn I mean I saw it ofia i it a' .a. In 4 i.. 1 in. I t‘ils i11 1 011111 ., 1 that one of the hot •e. had is I tar...il eat. I was perhaps 20 or 23 minutes at Combet I tool.gove lo•fore the pra,.ession came up. %I e dad not esehdlv chase" moon the proad... hat some of the men ti0.r..... Nevi fOlVtill'll to lateVralt illVir ha log assail ..1 won sao.sa ..... and rude at them to drive them away. Some. of Ow lovm had reanimate:sled with them pre% musty, and elm. 4:eil them to go away. We had hero heavily as•ailc.l wits hi irk bat. and Other missies. I el.i not I now of -thy indi vidual beim; cut down or vs °untied by the soldie;•. I should not know Sir Robert Raker if I a c... in .re iii.at - I do not know whether the Riot Act was lead iii Oxfoi 01. street. I dad not hear it read. Ica aaaaa .t to II as Ito co:u -( Par coati:m(l6,m so - 1 , 4;e TM I r:5 i sioe'ape ,