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146 and tincandid to withhold trout hint that provision which °nein to be granted en principles alistraetwil Irvin any per wll4l considerations. in this situation, it had become a 'nat ter of consideration with the consort of the Royal Dake, whether she could accept tin , Orinit made by Parliament. Her leelines would have iuclitied tier Li retiise it ; lint he t taught she had acted properly in consulting her Royal consort, and is complying with his advice. lle had -thought it his duty to say thus much on the subject of the Bill midi:: consideration. Their Lendships, contidem. wuuldgive him credit fur not wishing t i give offence tc the feelingsui any one. He did mit object to the. station but the third reading, but had considered lan.self bound to explaiti to their Lordships the view he entertained a this measure. Lord llot.raten did nut object tu this grant on account of its amount, but on account of the manner of which it was given. lie wt,.!ithi w remind iris Noble Friend, that, according to the old con s: tuitional system, much anterior to tint to which he had alluded, rwisian was always matde for the members of the Royal Family out o: the revenuee of the Crown, and these revenues were subject to the cantrul of Parliament. When he considered the sums of money • wi wit had at darn:at periods. during the present reittn been voted by- - Psrlisment to the Crown, he could not help considering them fully a lequate to the purpose fur which they were destined ; and he was of Pion that the splendour of the Crown would-'.se much better con -1 salted. if the provisions necessary on die marriage of members of the (Loyal Family were advanced mud these or us, than by applying to Parliament for additional grants with the chance of having to es p rience a refusal Ile could not admit that Paha:nem were bound to grant a provis i on on the marriage of a number of the Royal a.s a matter of course. It would he a strange proposition to say, that, because the Crown had given its censent, Parliament were toui.d to grant any demand of the Crown which tollowed upon that e.ie colt ; and it was very unfair to infer from a refusal, that a - bad of .nian must necessarily be entertained el the individual for whom tic application had been made. He bad risen, however, not to up put the sum proposed to be given, but the iamoeing of any addi henal burden on the public. It was not the amount, but the fund from which it was taken, that he considered objectionable. It was tt.ost unjust to charge the consoli-lated fund with dila provision. It' • their Lordships considered what had already been granted to the • Crown during the present nign, they would find that it enjoyed at .least double, what, at the commencement of the reign, it had a right o expect. The Earl of 1 avvarons admitted that the granting or not grant ing of ikiit wision, on the marriage of a member of the Royal Family, wa.; a n...tter within the juri.tliction of Parliament. The Noble Earl •who spoke first had not denied that proposition; but he had fully •tettitended, that when what was granted to one was withheld from a-other, a reflection was conveyed. The marriage Act, it was true, isietaintd nothing relative to provisions for the branches of the Royal • Family ; hut, in other reign , . grants fn , that hail been made by Parliament. If these provisions were now thrown on the-conoolidated fund, it war herause the revenue of the Crown, since the accession of his pressed Majesty, had been placed •ou a 'afferent footing. The arrangement which had been made at the eommeocentent of the present reign, • instead of leaviag to the Crown an improvable revenue, fixed the civil list at a determined earn; thus establishing, not a minimum, but a maitimunvvf revenue. Rot how could It be expected that the sum then voted °mild he suffi cient, since it was given at a time when his Majesty had no family ? The numerous offspring which his" Majesty has had, as well as other einnunstances, required an alteration. He was ready to enter into a d..tailod view of the subject, whenever the Noble Damn .might think proper to bring it forward t and he was convinced that, fair in vestigation, it would be foura 'that the arrangement miule at the commencement of the present reign had Placed his Majesty in a less favourable situation with respect s? -revenue than any so vereign since the revoluttan. The Ball was read.a third time and passed, as was the Duchess of Cumberland's .:'..nnuity Bill, and the :Lodi gill.—Adjourned. "WRIDAY. • COTTON MAM , FACTORTES. - -- • • - • The Earl of LAUDERDALE presented a Petition from certain pinncrs m A3•tachesttr. and other towns in the County of l.ancaster, praying te hd heard by Coumel, and to be permitted to adduce evi dence against the cotton mannfaeturers' Regulation Rill. Sykes Hydrometer Bill, and the West India Trade Bill, were • c uniued.--.Adjourned to Wednesday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, MAY 4. 'Sir. S. Bonaxe brought in a Bill for regnlating the Laws respecting the Settlement of the Poor, uhich was read a first and second time, commit/aid, the Report re:ri ved, and order_ ed the be printed, and further considered on Wednesday. Mr. RANKS rose to move a grant for the purchase of Dr. • Burney's library. 'flue Committee had every reason to be • Rear that the price they had to propose far it was a fair one, and not more than the pi oprietor of it would have:gat on sale for it. He stated this to chow that the Corumitiee..,,ute not horn extravagant on the part of the public. tie then moved for a stun of , to purchase the late Ds: surney's Li brary. Mr. CCRWEN said he believed this was asked, more for the gratification of individual members, than for the advantage of the public. The finances of this eutiatty were not in a fit state to hear even this small sum being taken :roar the public ursc Mr. F. Dot . er.As disapproved of this ill-timed economy.— .This was not actually e grant from the 'public, for 3.5001. of it • would he made lip by tile sale of duplicates of some of the works in "Dr. Burney's Library . and the remaining lo.ouol.• was to 1.0 4 t:ittlitlCti out of the anima! grant to the British, Museum ..... After w :Ilion debate the Grant was agreed to. 011 the 6lution of Mr. AantratmEr, the following stoma • were voted : I ,:wio,o , tei. tbr Arany ExtraorOinaries fur Great Britain • 60,0001. fur those of Ireland. Mr. 11( UV r, on the grant fur the Forts on the coast of Afrie•i, said, that it had nut been found adviseable to follow,• strictly, the recommendation of tile Committee, to cedece the tbrts ;iota the Slave 'trade •was abolished. He proposed 50001. more than on lot mei. ocrasinas, :a order to repair the and erect schools. The Cos elliOr of Cape Coast Castle,' bad ni.olc many valuable dc.rov ci les in Africa. He then• moved .t.'s,noul. fur The expenses of Cape Coast Castle in Aftica. Aft• ; . ew shs..reations loin Mr. W. Stitiro, Mr. Cm don, Ait. :slay the, Dlr.Arbutluted, and Mt W . Sony !be, the (; rant W.lO , aercull ;as were to the Hoard of Agriculture 3.11,70U1. for bitod, nre,d, forage, and the Commissariat I-) Ili troops. at home and abroad ; and 99,0001. fur the Barrack 011 the vote of 23.0001. for she. Caledonian' •"."..:atial; Mr. W. 'AVYSNE.wished ih;tskele et see Grant to he given at once. and to:t fioni )ear to 7re(c.r, in order that this work at great public malt) might be completed as soon as possible. Mr: kaitLIM.S complained that all macy voted forseerks in licotland were objected to. Me. W. Sstrrti had et first-been of opinion. that this west: could not be of touch now appear-Al it estalit After some Nutter conversation, the resoltit.. l:e1 d , awn in older to propose a larger cum. that iitighl ing. the • . cite domon ('anal to a ( onclosion as tuna a., 111/M , llbte • be next Vole wee 100000 t• for completing tee wotka of 'THE NATIONAL nEGISTF,RI the College of Edinburgh ; 3,4941. for Repairs of Henry the Vitas's Chapel; and 741001. for expenee of gold coinage. Mr. J. P. GRANT heard this Vote with some surprise, after the disappearance of the (told .Coiii; and:mote so to find that eight millions ofgold were to hiseoincd o wlien not a Sovereign could he kept in the country. Mr. W. PULE said, the law of the land was, that the Mint. w•►s bound to coin all bullion sent to it for that purpose ; and sufficient for eight millions had been sent by the Bank to be coined; and he had no doubt but that, like the seven millions already coined, would f:'o to their coffers to provide for cash payments. The public was bound to pay the expenee of new coinage. Mr. J. F. GRANT thought it an absurdity to suffer the law so to r. main. Mr. Fisteay wished that there should be no law to provern the exportation of gold•coin ; fur as the law now stood, it must he melted down ainkarried abroad; and then we had the expence of coining it Grain. After some further observations the Vote was agreed to. The next Vote was 54,001 to make good the deficiency in the Silver Coinage; ant; 20,00n1.'for printing the Votes of the House...—Report if-morrow. Mr. BIESPIETT moved for the re-committal of the'•F3dearlers Conviction Rewards Bill, which wasaceetled to. The Arrostsi elf Gs:NS:HAL objected to doing away •with l rewards altogether; but he proposed nu Amendment, that rewards•should be in the discretion of the Judges. The Hon. Gent. observed, that should his Amendment be adopted, lie would then : propose a clause, making it a subject of• action on information for penalties, if any pe:san•alwuld take g higher • fee or reward than that mentioned. Sir S. ROMILLY .thought, if the Amendment of his Hon. and Learned Friend was adopted. it would do away the effect of the Bill altogether. The object of his Hon. Friend who brought terward this Bill was to do..away with the rewards altogether, and thereby prevent isle inducement, •in future, to commit such crimes as those of which Vaughan, Brock, and Pelham had been guilty, by removing the inducement which these re-warils held out to them. The SOLICITOR GENERAL supported the clauscirreposed by the Attorney General, which he said would have the effect of doing away rertianty of reward, and allowithe Jude? to give . whatever reward he cousidered fit, whether conviction , took place or not. fair J. MACKINTOSH considered the Amendment as .an. necessary. Mr. Serj. COPLEY was in favour of the Amendmentodaich took away the certainty of reward. Mr. T. CounT9 ET supported the A mendinent ; whith sidered as going nearly hand in hand with the Bill, except in the extent of reward, and in taking the reward out ofthe purse of the Country, and charging it on the Crown ; and in thisdif• ferenee he preferred the Amendment to the original Bill. Lord CASTLEREAGH thought the original Bill made the re ward too general, and if adopted, would become a solace of heavy expence to t)•r Crown. After a few words tiern Mr..Bathorst, Mr. Bennett r and others, the amendment was agreed to. The House resumed, the Report was received, and ordered to be takes into fur ther consideration on Friday. 'F he other Orders 'were then disposed of, and the House adjournedat oue.o'clock.__ - TUESDAY. 'PAR:AAMENITARY REFORM. SirT. BURDETT ID esent:ll::3Pcts.tions from Leeds,(signed. as we understood, by '2O oaeb, prayiug • the early attention of the House to the subject et' Parliamealary •Reform, stating the evils of an oligarchy, and that ausual Parliaments and universal suffrage were the only moans of restoring the con. atitittion. _ _ _ The Petitions were received. The first of thentseas read, and ordered tee be printed. Sir F. 141:RUETT then presented 4R-similar Petitions from Halifax. Ordered to lie on the table. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Mr. C. Wits.N adverted to the Report of the Committee , re sp.cting the breach of the privileges of the House committed by Mr. Ferguson in the county of Lanark, who was. now in custody, and stater! his intention to move (on Friday next as we understood), an Address 4o the Prince Regent, praying for his removal trom an office he held as a &urethra of lazes under the crow is in Scotland. BANK OF ENGLAND. Mr. GRENFELL Inured fur accounts of monies paid to the Bank by Government, from 179; to 1816 inclusive, on ar cuate. of remunerations for receivingeleposits on loan., stating the rate of charges, distinguishing each year, and giving the amount of the whole money so reeeived. Mr. S. THotisTov, in a low tone, made some observations on the trouble the Motion would give to the Bank. Mr 'MANNING made some observations,hot in an inaudible voice. He denied that the profits of thee Bank were in the proportion thaeliad been stated ; noel he was sure that it would be found that in the transactions alluded to, the nation had received considerable ,advantages. The broad statement': which were made were injurious, not only at home, but in the view of foreign relatiofts. Mr. S. TetortitTatt said, that he had not objected to 'the Motion, though he had adverted to the trouble it might or. cosion. The accounts were ordt red. SUPPLY. The Report of the Committee of Supply was brought up, and the sums of 13,5001. for lir. Burney's library, of 1,500,u001. for extraordinary expenses of the army, and of 50,111101. for the same service in Ireland, mere agreed to, The remainder, of thaßesolutions were then agreed to. BANK RESTRICTIONS. T.rwis rose to gist notice, that it was his eirstention to propose that certain words should be iatroduced into thee preamble of the Bill fin continuing the Bank rests Actions, instead of the words which now stood there • but as tee wished to comailt Ito emit/efficacy 01 the House, he beggtql to ask what stage of the Bill would be thouidit most, proper Jor bus Motion. The 0 1 iNrkLILOR of the EXCEIEQVER hoped that they House would allow the Bill to pass through a Committee pro forma. He world elen propose such a preamble as he con ceived to lee proper, aid 100 leport was brought up, if any Hon. Gent. thought a different preamble ought to be adopted. it would then lee .n his power to relative J. Mr. J. P. (-MAST observed, that the fellellit aeceu:nt of income acid expenditure which lead,beeie laid ,before the House Wad bean lately withdrawn. and, therefoee, he mew. wished to knoteamtimi td,e. might expect to reetsive tlagain. ,The Cn., NeL!,/.olt of the Lyrukuttlitt-said, it writ peerect_ , ty true that the account hail been wlthdrawn r as certain esti: mates from Ireland had nut arrived ; _but it would be corn pteted in a ',rep short tituf 7 and laid before .the Howe. MAY 11. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Sir F. Butt tierr begged to call the etteution of the House to the subject to which he bad alluded. It was his lotto tioa to muse for the discharge of Thomas Ferguson, who had been committed to Newgate, by cn tier of the House, for having endeavoured to interfere with the freedom of election, by writing and senilidg-a letter to Mr. Dykes, to influence Iris vote. In bringing forward the case of title Individual, i: was impossible for hint not to feel that the grossest injustice bad been committed, when he called to mind what had been the proceedings of the home when the Noble Lord opposite (Lord Castlereagh) bad beau found guilty of greater corruji. tiomend yet was sufferedlo escape unpunished. All persons should.be treated with the utmost impartiality by that House. It was their duty to show the country that the laws of Eng. Land held one even tenour, and that Ilw.pnor or hugarle could not be punished when the rich or high were .allowed to commit be same acts with impunity, .4ilien the question respecting the conduct of the NeLt;:rtoril in that transaction was brought before t h e 115 use he (Sir F. Burdett) did not press for any severiq of punishment. They came to a re solution, that a:, it was a matter proceeding and not com pleted, and thoigh they ought to be very jealous of.the free dom of electiomehey did not think it necessary to4irect any meavises to be adepted against the Noble Lord. The Noble was a wholesale dealer in this species of traffic; lie was for buying a-sea:.;:ttitiFerepison l:ad only.attempted to infinence a vote. The Hon. hart here adverted to the case of Mr. l)ick, who deraig the administration of Mr. Perceval was in• troduced into the House, under the tuust corrept and aggravat ed circumstances, but who after his admissal was under the necessity of resigning his seat because he could not reconcile it to his conscience to vote sink' t h e party that placed him in it. For his own part, he could not understand how Ferguson, who hod followed the example of the Noble Lord, beet fol lowed him " hand passibusaynis," should be punished, while the Noble 'Lord himself had been so protected. He should not then detain the House any longer. This case lay in a very na ri . ow compass indeed, and therefore lie should conclude by moving, " That Thomas Ferguson be discharged forthwith.' Loud CASTLEREAGH wan; surprised that the Hon. Bart. had addressed so much of hiterpeech to him. He knew nothing of the c..se of Ferguson ; but it was impossible nut to know the object with Whoa the Hon.Bart.had brought ferward his Motion. It was not out of feclintr to Ferguson, ant iii support of Clot common cause towards which he had directed all his efforts. 'Whenever any meeting took place in the metropolis, at which the lion. Bart. thought that he had lostsome.part of his popularity, he inituediately.came down to the House, and started sonic question in the hope that he should regain it.— This was the object, and the only object of the.present mo tion ; and havirneessted this, lie must leave the discussion of Ferguson's ease to those Members of the House who were better acquainted with it. Mr. C. Wvsa did nut anderstand how any one could argue ' that, because.the , flotisc of Commons omitted to do its duty 9 yea rs.ago, it Was. nut to discharge it now. To that vote, h e was nu party ; heswas, indeed .- iii favour of further proceed. iiigs was a prece des; that stood upon their journals , but whether to be followed or notwas a matter fur theirs:end:kris. tion. It would be a melancholy circumstance, if one•Parlial . ment omitted to do its duty, that future Parliaments -should neglect what the law and the constitution► of the. country re quired thereto du. Col. WOOD said, perhaps the Hon. Bart. might remember the voting in a very severe contest in an election for Middle sex, when, after a pull of .13:41a; s, 300 millers were prevailed on to vote, for a innt which was not then built; and the sheriffs, it might be remembered, had been -sent to New gate fcr partiality to the Hon. Bart. The election was declared void, however. The House would not forget the result of the ;second election, and es to the third,.it appeared oil a scrutiny that of fair votes, the Hutt. Bart. could only mutter 800 against 3000. Mr. BRAND said, that although he acquiesced in many of the arguments urged by the Hon. Bart.if the Motion should be agreed to, all 'distinctions on matters like that of Ferguson were at au end ; -aud they-would be bound to pass over all infringement of privilege. for the time to conic. Ile should consequently oppose Ike Motiuu, and support the sentence. How ttiose who had voted 013 the former Istotiun could vote in an opposite manner in that case lie couldmat conjecture.— • t. was fur them to determine, not him. Sir F. BVRDETT begged to observe, with reference to cer rain allusions to the Middlesex election:;, that it had been eonttuded with a great deal of legal argument, that tk:\ votes were good, and the Committee had never come to a decision on that question. They got rid of teem, On the ground that they had nut been assessed fur the land tax ; that was the way in which they got rid of thew. The Hon. Member had re minded him of the sheriff's. They ought to base declared the majority in his favour. He hail a majority. The. votes could not be struck out. The House had nut felt themselves competentto settle the question, but had cot tid of it, and in the short way lie had related. One of the sheriffs was nut right, and lie had been sent to Newgate ' though the other bad escaped. It would be futil e to suff e r his Motion to go to a division , tor one setof men would have to vote against him from consistency ; and the othen.in despite of the incon sistency, would vote against hint : so that between consistency and inconsistency, he would not press the motion to the vote. Tire Motion was thennegativod without a division. ALIEN BILL. Load CASTLEREAGII;III:II;ttbj;tIPject to which he was then desirous of calling the attention ot. the House was one whicichatl so recently been discussed, that it would not make it necessary for him to address (bent at-ally great length. It was considered uecessae•y for a further period to continue the Bill for the Regulation of 4 lieus. ,Ile wished Hut to oppose the reception of those foreigners who might visit this country with every mark of confidence and hospitality consistently with the security of the country. But the first duty was to attend to the eiecurity of the country. lie should not wish a permanent law upon the subject, though there were many a Ito had held that it might be consistent with pro p:iety, that sonic revelations upon the subject of the resign; tion of Aliens might become apart of the permanent system . this country's police, and be conducive to its hest inteeests, The regulations of Ole present .law were of a much mild. character from that of 1793. 111th respect to the two bull he thought right to make a few observations. The law enact , in 1/U3 proceeded upon the principle that all Aliens we from ,the rely fact of their being Aliens, open to suspici• anti there. was a fair presumption. that they either slid c. or might.•ronle in prejudice, and.v.ith evil intentions to peace and safety of the count. y. \After the Peace of Audi the proceeildig of the gover►uueut had been one of gr. caution. .'1 bey thought, however, that peace being restut , the presitintitlon ails, that foreigners came with ionocent ' tension•, and nut. itditi hostile designs : it was thought ads I able uo iooget .to..leave a special icatuctwn against fore .