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*439.. 1 1-6. , AIoNDAY, APRIL 9. Several lords took the oaths and their scats. Petitions against the Catholic Claims were presented from the chancellor, master, and scholars, of the isiriver.:.- ommllt n—N eweast!c•tralcr:Lyne—city of Chester—clergy of Bath and Wells—Gloucester— clergy of Eh-st. David's—St. Alhan's—Grantliam—and several parts of Des on. * The Earl of DONOUGHMORE rose, after the above petitions had been presented, and said, lie believed there was not a lord in parliament more unwilling that the bill of concessions to the 11.01114 U Catholics should be delayed than himself. His op' • n was, that a measure so im portant ought to have the earliest and fullest discussion. At the seine time, he knew that several noble lords, alto were on the road to the capital, anxious to partake in the diecassion, could not arrive in time, if the second reading of the bill took place to-morrow. With that knowledge, lie considered it his duty to move the house to postpone the second reading to another, and snore convenient day. Having conversed with I lords oo the best day, lie found Monday nest would be convenient; he therefore Moved to discharge the order of the day for the second reading of the bill hi-morrow, for the purpose of reading it this day se'nnight. The seceder UM Wrangell m. 0.% w - tree 0111 ro-monow was thee discharged, and fixed for Monday. Foasina TRAWL—The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved for copies of cominnoications respecting the re newal of the East India Conspanya charter, and at the same time gave notice, that it was his intention to lay before the house to-morrow, a report from the committee of foreign trade.—The papers were ordered. GRAIIIPOUND DIMANCHISEMENT BII.L.TIIe Earl of LAUDERDALE presented a petition from several voters ii the beseegh of Grampoond, praying to be heard by counsel against the bill. The petition having been read, the noble earl moved, that the order for the second lead ing of the bill, which stood for todnorrow, be discharged, for the purpose of allowing the petitioners two or three days to procure their counsel, who could not attend the house, iu consequence of absence from London, before that time. He had no wish to procure unnecessary delay, but be consideted the petitioners, also were made subject to the provisions of the bill, which he considered a bill of pains and penalties, justly entitled to the indulgence re quired. 'EU LORD CHANCELLOR said, he was of opinion the bill ought not to pass ; but, before lie opposed it, lie wished the house to be in p ion of all the evidence. The noble and learned lord considered the petitioners entitled to some short delay, on the ground that short no- tice had been given of the second reading °finch a bill. The Earl of LIVERPOOL suggested that the second reading should be on Wednesday next, which proposition was agreed to, and the order for the second reading of the bill was fixed for Wednesday.—Adjourned. TlAlifl4 r, APRIL 10. The Earl of EGREMONT presented several petitions from owners aid occupiers of land in different parts of the county of Stares, praying tbut the house would devise some imams of alleviating the pressure of the distress under ninth the agricultural interest slow labour.. A number of petitions were presented against the Catholic disabilities removal bill Adjourned. • WEDNESDAY. APRIL 11. The Earl of DONOUGHMORE presented a number of peti tion kr and ping the Roman Catholic Bill, from Roman Cabello i Inns& The noble earl observed, that the Catholics Roe le instal eadelied with the first part of the bill, but many gerideesd assessed pet as an invasion of their religious rights. deed Ober penises of a similar nature were presented from ilitfat MO or the eweeltwe_ by Lind Kenyon, the Bishop of and the Bad of SbeArobory, which were ordered to be laid en, dig table. CONLISITTSS ON TRANS AND Countaco.—The Marquis ed.LANIIDOWNE hid beiges the house a report of the com mittee on lodge Mk and commere& It related chiefly to Asiatic tgade.ed lens /militia which might be given to pri vate person to the dm East and West Indies by the means erliegen& Tbe of the report _was to lay before the Lords do might be rewind by this country in case gee= wee dbrded. The report comprehended three begone& in which the abramid facilities migh t be granted. It aim alluded to the advantages which m ight be obtained by Wo*d adios ender the system adopted y the United States of Medea. The noble marquis Intimated a hope that the Me ladle Cenpany would act with the utmost liberality in Rudeness of the regulations recommended with respect to Asiatic Trade by the committee. The report was finally laid on the table. Gad orovin DIPPRANCIIIIENENT BILL.—The Earl of CARNAR VON rare on the order of the day for calling counsel to die bar, to be beard against this bill, and stated the particular Idiot and hosing of the measure. It differed from a former ii j lomondi as it removed the elective franchise from the =illiGennound, where it had been abused, to Leeds, etemill plot two more representatives by the transfer. lie MI Net flag le *grit to hearing counsel, although the appl:cation we mode s in* opinion, at too late a period ; but he should endeavour to prevent counsel putting questions irrelevant or imkggper to the witnesses. Tie LORD CHANCELLOR said, it was more than justice o ceadder, when a borough was about to be deprived of its eked,* franchise, whether the royal prerogative was at M rtir 11 1 : Thrim'ltdev of th e oefbStlti."le,opeobil orted was no t° ld e ri l li r s i s r i l ll a enee like the present. Lord Thurlow, in a similar case, had doled that such evidence could not be received, but he rose &idly Ow the purpose of protesting against the mode in a hich she noble Seed intended to receive the evidence. Counsel might deviate frogs their duty, if they did not state questions with respect to the house ; but his lordship expressed a hope, at the same time, that they might not be interrupted , if they were, he should make objections is favour of the punts. On the second reading lie should object to the bill ; but his object was not to interfere until all the evidence had been heard. The Earl of HARROWBY expressed a wish that counsel might b, beard on boils sides, and moved, that counsel be heard for the bill as well as against it. The Earl of lIOSLYNN said the amendment might have the effect of postponing the consideration of the bill until alter the holidays. Lord ERSKINE observed, that the Commons had sent up the Bill which would have a good effect, i.nd it would be most ungta• cicus to throw it out. The Earl of ROSSLYN opposed the motion for hearing counsel on both mita The motion or Lord Harrowby was ultimately agreed to without a division, and counsel fur the bill were ertieted CO attend at the biz on Tljur4,;. lire o'clock. The heuss thca djourned. - " APRIL 12. presented 4om the corporation of Dublin —L o d D over , aguirut the Catholic of Ely—thr Royal Burgh of Diimfernaline read ai:d laid on the table. The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved the order of the day for hearing counsel upon the second readies, a the Gram pound Disfraochn•-- - ont. ' Mr. Al.lerson and Mr. Adam (counsellors) were accord ingly called to the bar. The former was for the petitioners AVIIIIM the bill, the hitter for the hill. Hu. tog taken their plarcs at the bar, witnesses were titled in support of the bill. Mr. Hoare, one of the voters for .Grampound, was first eznitilacti touching the minty distributed at Grampound fur the purchase of votes for it M. Lopez, at the general election. George Hint, an agent, who administered, as it was said, to tho necessities of that borough, was the next witness. Thomas Coole proved the proceedings at the election, and that the person who read the bribery oath was hissed. Juba Teed, Esq. who stood twice candidate for pound, proved that a considerable number of the voters took money. lie gave evidence against several on a prost cutiou for bribery. Having attempted to administer the oath against bribery, much confusion and disturbance ensued.— One of Vie voters said murder would eon if the briber) oath was insisted on. In alliwer.tu a question put by Lord Erskine, he said the bribery oath was not taken by one of the voters. Mr. Edwards, an attorney at Tniro, and several other witnesses seen.. rgainined; after which the house adjourned The examination will ties,...llmed to-morrow. PRIORY. •PitiL 13 . The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presertral a petition from Greenock, praying no alteration may be snadei:. the ditties on timber.—Laid on the table. A copy of proceedings against Sir M. Lopez, and others, upon prosecutions for bribery, io the Court of King's Bench, was presented at the har, by the proper officer. GR A reouND DistreaucultLllENV Bl LL.—Counsel were again called to the bar, and after the examination of evi dence, farther proceedings ou the bill were postponed to Thursday, the 10th of May. The Bishop of Chester, the Bishop of Ely, Earl Bathurst, and the Earl of Coveatry, presented petitions from various parishes against the 110111:./I Catholic claims. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition fr the Protestant Dissenters of llampaead, having the Name object. The petitions were severally rend and laid on the table. Several private bills were b A ht up the Commons, and read the first time.—Adjourned to Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, •PRIL 9. On the motion of Mr. R. Smith, leave was given to the short-band writer who had attended the Hendon com mittee to appear and give evidence at the Middlesex m aitre& on an indictment for perjury.. Sir W. LEMON presented a petition from the free holders of Cornwall, praying the house to adopt measures for the restoration of the Queen to the exercise of her rights—fur a reduction of the people's burdens—and finally for parliamentary reform. lie concurred in the sentiments of the petitioners. He trusted that the house would age ee to eaten and temperate reform, as the must effectual means of restoring the conutry to comfort and prosperity. Mr. TREMAYNE said lie had been requested to slip poet the petition, but lie di ff ered from the petitioners on sonic points. He had hoped that the question respecting I the (Ince., would be set at rest, and lie did nut go the length of the petitioners on the subject of reform—Or r dered to be printed. Wow .Taans.—Mr. T. WILSON presented a petition from merchants of London, praying to be' relieved from the wool tax. He quoted several laws to *hew the inju rious effects of the tax on the wool trade. Cargoes of wool, after having arrived at the English ports, having been sent to the United States, and elsewhere, being un able to meet our duties. That tax drove away the best wool—it had iucreasrd the duty 23 per ceut.—and the operation of the system way to make the AfileliCillS ma nufacturers whether they would or not. The amount gained by the dnty could not be a matter of arty conse quence—it was as nothing compared with what was lust by the injury done to the trade. 'Mr. BARING remarked, that there was a notice of motion for the repeal of Ilse wool tax; and then would be the period for going into a discussion on the question. Ile begged to add, that if something were not dune, we should run great risk of losing the wool trade altogether. Petition read, and m tiered to be printed. Mr. H. SUMNER moved the revival of the committee on the Newington bill; in doing so, lie should not advert to what bad taken place in the committee. He desired that all unpleasant feeling should be buried in Mr. G. RENNET complimented the hon. member on the conciliatory temper termed by the mode iu which the motion was made.—Mution agreed to. Oar the motion of Mr. Canning, the house went into a committee on the proposition to giant 40,0001. for the Conway bridge. Mr. Alder 111411 WOOD asked how it was that the public money should be here advance.:, when it was said that not one shilling of public mural: should be advanced to promote the rebuilding of Losiduil bridge. Mu. CANNING observed the liberality of the city of London 'nutria tender such grant timiecessary ; besides there was much dif f erence between the two 1:46C6.—1te- Aulutiosis agreed to. Report to-morrow. Mr. (OULBURN moved that the house go into a com mittee on the African ports bill. Mr. G. BENNETT moved as an amendment to die clause, that grants of compensation should not be cousi. dried as filially and conclusively granted till submitted ici pai barmen,. This amendment was then put in and carried. 011 another clause, Mr. W. SMITH said, lie took it for granted there were to be no slaves in the torts ; that those who were slaves now should no longer be so. The remaining clauses having been agreed to, the re pot t was ordered to be received to-morrow. BANC CA-li PAYMENTS.—Thu CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that tha house go into a committee on the bank cash payments. Mr. BARING ruse for the purpose of moving an in- Aruction to the Committee, to re-eurisider the provisioas of the bank payments act. A better course perhal might be, to propose in committee to take into considei a tiou the whole subject. lie concluded with "Moving au instruction to the cum- 14 THE N Smverial Varitament. Petitions rrn —••• 2 44 . TAR tal. ... ~.. • .o.eacunry r , mittee, to consider the last bank cell payments' act, whether it ought to be referred to a committee, &c. Mr. ATI WOOD seconded the motion. The low prices of gold alone could give us advantage; and the hon. member argued at some length in support of his po. sitions, but lie was imperfectly beard in the gallery. it tr.'.?..4*.; me taxes alone, he said, that created the difficul ties of the people, but the debt and taxes combined. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the amendment, contending that the proposed committee was not necessary. The operat . of the Bank Act had not been quite so injurious as the lion. member would have the house believe. There had been in the present quarter, for instance, an excess in the produce of the re venue; there was an apparent diminution as compared with a preceding punier, owing to time having been given to pay certain malt and hop duties. A member, whose name we could not learn, objected to withdrawing the one-pound notes. He could see no ground that would result from such a measure. It would not prevent forgeries of five pounds or other notes ; and lie was convinced much inconvenience' would result from the withdrawing paper from circulation. He nnderstood the Bank had come to a resolution to withdraw their one. pound notes; he wished to know if it was so : if the Bank had come to such determination, be hoped they would retrace their steps, and contiuue to furnish the public with that convenience. Mr. PEARCE, in explanation, said, the Bank had yet come to no determination on the subject; but this lie could say, if one pound note* were found necessary for public convenience, the Bank would continue to furnish that convenience. The house tben divided—For the motion, 141—For the intendment, 21—Majority in favour of the bill, 114. The house then went into the committee. After some further conversation between Mr. IV. Fele, M r . Baring, lnd the Chancellor of the Excliegner, the bill went through, and to: report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The other orders were disposed of, ant: !be house ad journed at halt' past twelve. TUESDAY, APRIL 10. The ballot fora committee to decide on the merits of the Callingtun borough election petition was fixed lot this day ; bet at four o'clock, there being only 90 members preset'', the Speaker adjourned the house till to-morrow. WEDNESDAY, APRIL 11. The gallery was not opened at the usual hour, owing to the ballot for a committee to try the merits of the Callington election committee. It was not opened till half past four o'clock. Sir J. MACKINTOSH moved, first for leave to bring in a bill to mitigate the punishment of tOrgery; second to amend the taw regardingthe seeding on navigable rivers; and thirdly, to alter the law touching privately .stealing. (lave given. THE CATHOLIC:S.—MI. S. RICE, in presenting a petition, explained what he had said on a thimet occasion, regarding the Catholics having been entitled to seats in parliament down to the Articles of Limerick. By them the Catholic Lords were entitled to scats ; and there was no exclusion of the Catholic commoners from the commons. This fact was established by Mr. Butler's Book, a work of considerable authority. He had authority oft what he had said—if it had gone wrong. he had erred with respectable name.—(Bear, hear!)—The petition was from the Catholic Bishop of Limerick, reprobating the provisions of the Catholic 111, but leaving the whole to the wisdom of Parliament. Sir J. GRAHAM moved that counsel might be heard against the Turnpike Trusts Consolidation Bah Mr. D. GILBERT was sorry that this motion had been made; he had hoped however it might be opposed, that the expense of counsel would have been spared. Sir J. GRAHAM vindicated the respectability of the petition • erg; they had not come forward without having some real interest in the question at issue. Mr. P. GRENNELL remarked, that the bill had his entire concurrence ; he was persuaded it would be most useful, in giving to the metropolis and neighbourhood much better roads than they possessed at present. The petition was negatived after the gallery had been partly cleared for a division, the division not being pressed. Dr. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from Mr. Merry, praying that means might be adopted to restore to him his two children, who had been forced from him at Lisbon, under pretext of *locating them in the Roman Catholic faith ; as well as con siderable property. &e. Mr. N. ROBINSON said, the government knew nothing of the case, but added that enquiries would be made. Sir J. MACKINTOSH ifs — a• brought in his three bills to amend the criminal lows...dierware severally read a first time, and ordered to be read slogged thee Friday, May s. A message from the lordo wallsoanirsd that their lordships had agreed to the beer dutifu l the Hagent's canal, and the Irish treasons bills, without amendments. - Their lotdships also desired the clerk to attend with extracts from the indictments of Sir M. M. Lopez,&c. ; and that Mr. Itocliford, M. P. be allowed to attend their lordship's committee of privileges, to be examined OD Mr. Hurne's claim to the Earldom of Marchmont. Mr. MCKESSON said. that he should withdraw the sewers' bill fur the present ; but he should bring it forward next session. After a few words from Mr. D. GILBERT, the order for the second reading of the bill was read, and leave was afterwards given to withoraw the bill. Sir H. PARNELL presented the report of the Holyhead on .rood's bill.—Agreed to, and ordered to he read a third time on Mda. Marcum M USE U LENNARD moved for retums of dio refusals or suspensions of applications to the reading rooms of the British Museum within the last five years. If the returns could nut be made by the officers he must appeal to the panic themselves. The discretion at present exercised was too rigid. Mr. BANK ES said, that the motion could not be complied With. He should be against an indiscriminate admission. Ile added that the postponement of an application was not to be considered as tantamount to a refusal. No proper person, lie believed, had been refused admission. He hoped the motion would be withdrawn. Mr. GURNEY observed on the increased facilities that were afforded to the public libraries of England, as compared with those of France; the former being opened during longer periods in the year, and more hours in the day, than those of Pans. Mr. LEN NAND said, he would not trouble the house to divided on the question. All persons could not get the recom mendation:, of members of Parliament, or persons of rank. Ile then mentioned several cases of individuals of undoubted re spectability, who had in vain applied for aduthsion for three mouths. The motion was then negatived. IlisceivEn GLNERAI..—Mr. HUME asked whether it was intended to save the 3 or 4,0001. expense of Receiver General of Greenwich Hospital, nuw vacant. TheCHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he could give no answer now. He wished to ask the lion. member whether he would postpone his motion of to morrow respecting the dis • franchising ut certain ordnance utficets of Quia:nborough till another day, on account of the unavoidable absence of a noble tiiend (Castlereagh.) Mr. HUAIE.—W lien my question is answered, I shall be ready to answer this.—(Cheers.) 11.‘kri.siLit Jart,.....-Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a .II a