The National Register. — London, England, 1818-03-08 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS. Continual from the Third Page. THE PROPERTY TAX. Mr. UROUGHAM then brought forward his Motion for de stroying as far as possible , _ documents connected with, or relating to, the repealed Property-tax. Mr. V. NA ITTA RT could slot agree to this Motion, which he conceived would be productive of no good. With respert to the Property-tax, the Hon. Gent. might he assured, that the papers connected with it were not kept with any view to a teals:o of a tax, which having been repealed. he had nu in tention again to attempt to revert to during a time of peace. '1 he 'testi nctiou of these documents, howvser, could not at present take place, as there were still many arrears ontstan• ding—arrears amounting to between two and three linudred tl *suit pounds. Mr. tin I , %Frit. could wet avoid congratulating the House, and the rutintry on the pledge gisen by the Chancellor of the r A ehe,pier, that during the continuance of peace he meter would have recoarse to that odious impost the Pro perty-tay. Ms. Witoutinsw replied shortly, and said, he did net ask focal* Jowl destruction of papers, but for a Committee to earpais.s into the subject. Attar a few words front Mr. Lambton, the debate was ad jounsed to Tuesday. Mr. Alderman Woon presented Petitions from Lords and Birmingham. prayino , fur a radical Reform iu Parliament, ifounded on UniversarSuffrage. B VCK NOTI:S. Mr. Mit sr v rose, to move furs return of the outstanding bank-notes up to the 3d of March. He had already procured a return of the notes outstanding up to the few lint weeks, and the present Motion was to bring the account to the Wiest possible period. He moved for a weekly account of the, her of Ilatik.metes in circulation from the 3d of February to the 3d of March, Se. Mr, VANCITTART wniild not object to the motion. After some observations from Mr. Tierney, Mr. Manning, Sir. fit enfell, and Cien.Thoruton, the Motion was agreed to. —Adjourned. Tuciesuaor. Mr. Alderman WOOO brought up the Report of the 01111- mittee uu the subject of building a Bridge across the Thames tram Rate gliway,. which was agreed to, awl leave given to Initip in a Bill. Mr. RODINSO.I brought up a Return of all the Persons in Eitel ind that had her it detained tinder the Suspeu■lon of the Ihibeas Corpus Act.—Laidlen the table. I•:I)UCATION OE ntE LOWER ORDERS IN THE METROPOLIS. Mr. BUOUGHAM observed, that the Committee appointed two vents ago to inquire into de. Education of the Lower Orders in the 3letropolis, had made a Report and nothing snore, and on that aerount he had intended to have moved at an earlier period to have lord the same Committee revived.— The object of the Committee had been to point out the proper remedy for the evil complaided,—the defective education of the Lower Orders. The Meinbcrs of that Conmiittee had been of opinion, that the interference of Parliament was necessary. The object of that interference, he conceived, should be to obtain a grant for the support of the schools for the education of the poor. But he wan averse to the grant being made permanent. as such a proceeding would fleet's warily occasion a diminution of the funds contributed by pri s ate charity. 'the want both of houses for schools and of Louses for the tcachers,should he =applied by Parliament.— The evidence that had been laid before the former Committee aufficiently proved that only a small stem wriuld by required. Wisest he saw due amount of the grant made to Ireland for the same purpose, he could not dwarf that 'some thing would be obtained fur this country. The stun of 400. 1 001. had been granted for Irish society schools, though of the utility of that grant he entertained doubts, as he was compelled to think that some where or other there had been a misapplication of the money. The revenue of the schools amount s d to Immo a year, and scarcely 2,100 children were educated for that sum, and in tact ()iffy one half the sum had been accounted for. The Bishop of Halibuts bind stated the number at 2,500, but Mr. Howaid had suede them ammun to only 011 v-third of titat number. There was undoubtedly a wide difference be• twixt the manacement of their fonds and that of the tither. nian schools in London. The fluid for the support of these sthoels did not exceed at the must 6,0001. a year, and sup ported 310 schools while the chattered society may maintained 33 schools, scarcely one-tenth of the number kept np hi the othes A, and nu education conlil be better than that of the Hi• le:rnian schools. The Hon. Guittleman concluded by musing, tf.at a Sr:feet Committee be appointed to inquire into the edn• cation of the lower orders of the Metropotia, and that they shoold communicate minutes of the evidence, and report their opinion from time to time to the House.—Agreed to. S.‘LT Mr. DserNuotte pteseuteil u Petition from the Noblemen, Cretiticitacto, and Faraut.rs, of the county of Chester, praying that the House might Lake the Salt Duties tutu their eunsidera tiou. PE NT lONS FROM MANCHESTER. Mr. Pnitt.tes rcito to brine fm ward he motion relative to the Petitiolio nom itlancliester and other places, concerning spies and informers. The Petliktio being seed, the Honorsvable Gentleman pro ceeded with liis motion. He was leanly to admit the asseuth line of WI ge studios of people of the lower classcisfur the pion. pow o . ,ll.risssiiie political subjects, was ;I thing that repined vicilance on the pail of Government. Spies, however, were a sort of people that requited just as much tigilance as the others N. 91 was from the very nature of his employ_ 'swat au object of suspicion. He hoped the House would in 'col:ate file subject with diligence and accuracy. There was nn utout way nt duiog justice to the Petitioners and the etiontry. Ne dronld, Meet:lure, nnise the fullowiug results. ties', " That the Hnn taking into comaderation the Report of the `,cret Committee preset.ted is Juue la,t, and that of 4 ( uu:mit'te of the i m o t of Lords lon seated oil law ad of tlw sumo ail, so fat as they regarded persons who Oct e said to 'neva, J o ; :hose u ith it Wigs. intended they olimild only ho Ole ar.d.:lso taking into coasider. at ion she 1- etitions prest mei, relative to the carte %object, felt it three ditty full) to investigate the .11411t1 and eateut sit tie same." 'L •• Moog) 1,1in. , t pill from the Chair, NuisN.nN said, ht ne%er in his bit, wituersrd so extra urdia...y a unit of the lion. Gentleman (Mr. p .). li r railed fee an infinity at t h e %Cry same taint that he gave up the isrOltstrtS npoll %Well, on it limner occasion, he gave notice that lit Woin , i apply for it. The liou.Gentle man did not perlmo 'molt diately move for a commiti ce , b ut the THE NATInNA.I. nrosTETI. was the object of his resolution. His (Mr. Robinson's) object was to ,hew, that as far as the Petitions went it seas impossi ble to give credit to them. On his honour and conscience he did not believe the allegations they contained ; and on behalf of a calumniated Government. and n!ntomniated Magistracy, he would call upon the House, and might confidently call upon them to reject the proposition. Mr. F. Dol.:el-VI said, the Resolutions woo grounded, not only upon the Petitions but upon an avowal in the Report of 'toe Secret Committee. that the persons employed by Govern ment had encouraged those designs, which it was intended they should be the means of detecting. He blanked Minis ters for acting unfairly to the country, in refusing that inquiry into the complaints of aggrieved persons, which it true re- qiiired genie investigation, and if false, would fully exenlpme them in the minds of the public. On those grounds it was that he advocated the Motion then before the. House, and on those wounds he st-oultl certainly vote in favour of it. Mr. BIACMIURNE was desirous of making a few observa tions on those - Natation, from Manchester which had been so much spoken or by the Hon. Gentlemen on the other side of the House. He mild infbrin them that the 26 names which were said to be signed to one of those Petitions were not the names of most respectable people, as hail been stated. Ou the contrary, it was known, they (the Petitioners) were some of the lower classes of society, and consisted for the most part of persons who were instrumental to the calling the Meetings which took place at the polled mentioned in Manchester. He wished also to inform the House, that a Resolution had been signed by 255 respectable persons at Manchester, stating ghat they were indebted to the constables and other persona employed at the time of those meetings and disturbances be fore mentioned, for the safety nod protection they enjoyed on that occasion. The Hon. Member said, that it wan nereA.ary the House should be made acquainted with the circumstances which he bad just read to them, as theletter shewesi.the weight which should he attached to that Petition from Man chester, which et tuolained of the conduct of spies and in• formers. Mr. T. Covrregs AV thought that the general feeling of the country was decidedly against the statements contained in the Petitions, on which the Resolution then before the Howie was grounde d, and he would instance the letter just read by his Hou. Friend (Mr. Blaekburne) in support of that opi.. Mon. If the Hon !timber (Mt. Phillips,) and the other lion. Members who supported him, were so much mistaken in Whin had taken place at Manchester, was it too much to sup pose that they may be equally mistaken with respect to the other fleets of the country? Lord Lysetlass thought that some stronger grounds than those mentioned were necessary to convince the House of the necessity of passing the resolution proposed, and 'micas he heard such grounds he would certainly vote against it. Lord Mturoe obsersed, that the question for their consi deration was, whether, tinder all circumstances, there existed sufficient grounds for inquiry into the conduct of Ministers. He thought there did exist such grounds. He did not mean to justify the risings Isla* took place in the country ; b u t he thought the people being in a state of dish ess,and being told that a general rising was contemplated, was some sort of ex cuse for their conduct. Such was the effect of sending spies to entrap persons who would not otherwi:e have gone to such lengths. It the House wished to stand well with the nation, they would iustitutethe proposedimmiry. Lord Svmektv said, his belief was, *at Oliver and others had been employ edesolely to discover Ivhat was doing in the disturbed districts. Ile thought Ministeis juid• been much cal 11111 l 'kited but they would be most so by themselves, if they refused to enquire into those acts, when inquiry,aecording to their own statements, would fully acquit them of the ehargus laid against them. On those grounds he should certainly vote for the resolution. Mr. BEN N LTT said, that his Hon. Friend CMr. Phillips) had been acirosed of having abandoned the intentions with which lie first brime,ht the subject under their consideration. This he hesttted leave to deny. 'llse Gentlemen on the other side of the noose objected to the Petitions as rovisMg from sus picions sources, while his :%lajesty's Ministers did notlesi!ate to act in the most severe manner on information derived sources of a much more ruspieiuns nature. Such an objec tion came badly from the employers of Castles and Oliver. from Ministers who saisenooeil and protected persons who stele really to swear away the lives of whoever they pointed out as their sietims. Mr. BATIII It T obsecved, that the general grounds on which the Hun. Members %Ito had spoken on the other side oldie House scented, in a gre.it measure to be confined to the Manchester Petition ; but he wauld maintain, that the convictions had born numerous, and the reason why many turn had not been tried, was, that inquiry could not be enter ed luau without breakin,, ,, ough the eatifitlence reposed la the Got ernment • Oat these grounds he felt it his duty to op pose the motion. _ _ 'II. W. SMITH entered into a detail of the information which had been given him of the criminal conduct of Oliver to Mr. Ite‘tall, a builder. his former employer. Mr. B avast, in explanation, said, that he hod carefnlly looked into the matters stated by the lion. Member, and said theic %vas no pi chin e for charging Oliver milli coy thing frandident in the 11111INICtiOlOt all sided to. Mr. Tit:use)* rose amid a loud call for the question. He sail, that the Ministers in order to get the good opinion of the House, mid to extricate themselves from their ehtiicolties laud been throwing all the Flame upon other people, and the House was called upon to get rid of a motion which, at..maay Members is hu 114.1 lately entered had not heard, ate would beg to he.. e read acaiti. The Speaker having a4ai4 read the mo tion from the Chair, the lit. Him. Gentleman proceeded ; he obset vett. that in fact there had been fusty-two conspirators in the two Moises of Parliament, and these were the Mean• hers of the too Secret Committers,and the haui:itess altogether was unparalled in the history of the country. The conduct of Ministers was calculated to increase the discoittont of thr et DDDDD te y, and they mighi lead to allot ha r sus ars ian of the Its. heal Corpus Act. lie gave ilia hearty coneuricute to the Motion before the lion-e. Mr. WILBERFORCV did not Intend to have troubled the Hump! 'llion the lit et• 111 OeViegioll, 11.41111 C not beets person.lll) alluded to in the conrse of the detrite. Should the lions.. agree to Ilk' present Motion, it would open a door to a is,st interminable and is/definite intpi;ry. Eur leingsvir,lirobjwilvd to I'm .is pr. n rtliiig tiros; q el.*. as•ses.psio•• ophi ;s • .F.4l.sed in Ili. no Itt.puit•. What ‘ , "11 1, 1 be the practical • Or the II lot % it would he ssercss.uyto investigate all tier Petisitss, And so call the hh% hcfure 111 House. 'll,r 1..14141.1 it iiii irY would have to not upon she eliaraetet ut Ot r, nett upon the characters of all those 'rho had psesessied I's til WWI to that House, and as such site inquiry would he abeltsa he. cause endless. He must oppose the Motion'. Mr. rittatirr briefly replied ; when the Lions divided.— MARCH 8 For the Motion,69.—Agaiwt it, 162.—Majority, 93.—.j4- journed. FRinAY: Mr. D. GILBERT. presented ailother Report from the Committee on the Income and Expenditure of the country. Ordered to be printed. Lord PALMERSTON presented a Petition from the University of Cambridge, against Mr. Curwen's Tythe Bill, as encroaching on their privileges--Ordered to be printed. A new writ was ordered for Winchester, in the room of Mr. Tay • lor. &Teased. I.:co. TuORNTov gave wotice. that on Monday next, an Hon. Friend f4' his would move in. the Committee of Supply. an 'lndian:4li. cation for the High Bailiff of U'estniimster. INDEMSL'IT BILL .s. : A Messago from the Lords piesenteil the Indemnity Bill, desiring the concurrence of the }rouse to the same, The AvronxEr GENERAL moved that the nin be printed.... Ordered. He at the bnAC ritue gave malts!, that on Monday next he should move the first re.ding. Mr. LusittxwroN moved that the Bill be read a first time on Monday next. Ordered. Mr. BENXETT presented a Petition from debtors confined in Whitecross-street prison, praying for relief. Ordered to lie on the table. The second reading of the Tythe Bill was postponed till this day se'nnight, at the request of Lord Palmerston, to make we) , for the am:ideration of the Mutiny Bill.• The Privately Stealing in Shops Bill, was read a second time and ordered to he eonunittcd on Monday se'imight. Mr. EnEturm: presented a Petition from the salt dealers of She. shire, against any alteration in the Salt Maim and Laws. Ordered 0; be printed. The CHANCELLOR of the ExcitEouslis gave notice that on Mon day set:night h.; should move that the /louse resolve itself into a Committee respecting that part of the Lord Commissioners Speech regarding the building of turches... _ MEIMiTCTION OF Tim ARNTY. Lord ALT ITORP brought forts-a:4lns pmmised Motion, and mov ing, that, instead oft 13,ey00 men, fixed in the Mutiny NI, there be introduced the amount of 108,6014 Wen. Mr. BANKS was in favour of it, a also Mr. Ord, Lord Nugent, and Mr. Warrc. A division aftcrwardc took place. The numbers. were—Foe the Motion, 42.—Against it. tis.—Majority. 21. Mr. C1101(1711 !laving ('brained fear:: to bring in a Bill to consoli— date the Acts granting rewards telutive to the Longitude, and•the rerminingOrders be.ng then disposed of, the House adjourned to )londay. AGRICULTURAL REPORT FOR FEBRUARY. The IVheats throtighrint the country make a very satisfac tory appearance, and the latter sown , from the gem ral vie,b of the season' are particularly forward. Upon all dry soils, pion:Aim; and Held leas iness in genrial has gone on with considerable dispatch, but on those which are not so favour ably situated, they are backward, from the wets cut of the seasons, and will be late at Bean setting. The Peas and Means of the early districts, are partly above ground, and look well. The 'Poulin crop has turned out one of the most abundant, and there has been no frost to injure it. Th e early Lambing has beets very snecessful in point of mint lwrs, but both Ewes and Lambs hays: suffered Irons the wet ness and sudden change of the weather. Monday being kept as St. David's Day, the Society of Ancient Britons hell their With Anniversary. At ten in the morning Lord Be!grave, with several of the 1 ice-Presidents and Subscribers. assembled in the Board-room of the Sch,ol, in Gray's Inn-lane-road. The boys, tit) in ninehe t , 1,, drawn up in a line in the court yard, newly clothed, and hats decorated with leeks (the ancient Welch eymbol), and white sibands, when they went through the manual exercise with great precision. About half-past eleven the whole hotly moved (AIM procession to the Church of St. George-. ilanoser Square, where the Liturgy was read in the Welch language ; alter which a Sermon was preached, in English, by the Bishop of Llandaff, from the filth Proverbs, v. 15. Atter Service, the company returned in the same manner they went, (having stopped and given three cheers at the houses of the Duke of Norfolk and the Marchioness of Liensilown, in til..leinet's Square, and at Carlton Huuse) to the Freemasons' Tavern. where about .100 set dower to a plc:Aimee; dinner, followed by a succession of loyal toasts and songs. A liberal subscrip tion followed; and the company continued to a late hour, eni joying the feast of reason and the flow of soul.: A :4:w days smce.—.— Iniag, aged ls, was drowned at Greetibtil Feed. near Carlisle. He had ocen putting some potatoes on board s vessel with a horse and cart, and ia returning, the tide came ill so ra pidly upon him, that he and the hone both perished ; and what render ed her death more distressing war, that it happened in sight of his mother end sister, who were unable to render him any assistaiice. Last seek, as Mr. Simpson.steward to Major Hart, of CasiernWc, was returning from Dumfries, in company with a Mr. Johnson, he was drowned M attempting to cross the mar Annan. A correspondent informs us, that the manntactooy for work ing and spinning flax, established by her Majesty and the Princesses, this ethrtnr, at Wind•or. has sufficiently proved the gereamages of ibis mode of giving the poor white r employ ment, and so redneing the ,poor rate. Those p ar i s h es w h o are desirous of follewieg the example most be reminded, that to secure a stir ;11y for the next season, flax must be toe ir by the middle of April. Farmers round London, or the..pro prietors of flax machines, would no doubt gladly contract to grow .it for five guineas per ton, alter taking out the seed, as at that rate they will have a return of 16 to 26 pound per ;tete. IVlien worked according to the new system, without water-steeping, the flax will be hi ought into the poorhouse at 0.1. per p 1,01 the same cpiality OS the foreign , fur whi c h, Is. Id. is usually given. Wh e n fl ax i s obtained at so low a prier, heifer ernes ease be allowed fur ; ti le high , price of the material is the pi incipal cause why this employ relent has not hitherto answered in the poor-houses. Miss IVykeliiiiii has recently 11:11I a complete survey and plan mule of her scat of Thane Peek, near Tetswortle is Oxfurelithire. This fine domain descended to her father, Mr. Wykeham, at the death of his uncle, Lord %Venilhani, ee hose title Is now extinct. His Lordship left the other psi tof h;s 1 pre-peaty (perhaps 70001. per estrum) to his 'mph. w, thy pie : sent Philip 1k ykelioni, Esq. The first Illicit this young lady aft e -1 coming, into possession of her property, was to inal-• comfortable tot ovit,ion for Ise uld demesnes of the who had been left improsided for in conse qui lice of litt W ilma' dying suildeely and intestate. )tast rev; ni.K CATASTIM 1:...-011 Si/Mr/ley, aerk es Neer. K. Bey ilges, R. N. v. We his brother Thomas, a NI note, and in , vuemge r breiltei , Citanit.s (ail se , tesof et r , Ile a 44.4 I 01 'retlLut.i.ar ), accompaseed i y Lie ur. 1:11:1 lieu, B. N. carte pleasure 1.041 alma Ilse !fiver Si'Sav et a, a Lest ..f %villa iiiiset tier, and the whole of theme ev-e-se diem au el, wi 11 lilt rxreption tir Mr. T. lit ykro, alto with us. at .1.11, 4 . 11 , 1 y 2i4 tie the shore in a 1111.51 a 7t1lUi0111•11 slate, Air. Lis duet. Wail sailed Irene 'ls w ',sleety wills the pail,, hut gut isit Alum :t the U pper Lode, to get f t frl4lllolellis for 1111121; said this, rape the di eadful fate which over took his mule,' tuaiste • ehtlilizn and their frltatj! I