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10.2 2inperi* i)arliament. • -41.- t imegr, OF. 1.1)RD; 4 . 11 k• • : MONDAY, stair 15. • The Earl of Albemarle. the Earl of Hopetoun, and the Earl of Cranard took the oaths. The Earl of ALM:. NIABLE presented a Petition from the Owners and Occupiers of I .and in the Parish of Painhall.. in the County of Norfolk, praying relief under Agricultural Distresses. 't'he Noble Earl also prevented a Petition from the Owners and Occupiers of Land at tVehley, in the County of Hereford, praying relief in agricultural distresses. The petition complained of the sale of foreign corn, and stated that they expected relici in the way it has been extended to the manufacturing inter;:st. The Noble and worthy Earl intimated that he was not present at the 'fleeting : he had. however, to state, that the Petition was most remeetablysigned. The above Petitions were read, and ordered to lie on the table. The English Insolvent Debtors Amendment Bill was read a second time. The Marquis of C H OLM ON D ELE Y laid on the table certain returns relating to the expenees and allowances made to Foreign 3linisters, made by Order of his Majesty, and in consequence of the Address of the douse, voted on Friday. Adjourned. • TVESDAY, MAY 16. Several Lords took the oaths. The Bishop of ELY presented a Petition from the owners and occupiers of land at Wisbesch, in the Isle of Ely, praying relief under agricultural distress. The Earl of MOUNT EDGECUMBE presented sixteen Petitions of a similar description from the agriculturists of the County of Cornwall.—Laid on the table. The Insolvent Debtors' Bill went through a Committee. Lord CA LTIIOII PE presented a Petition from the merchants. manufacturers, and inhabitants of the Town of 'Birmingham, praying the House to institute enquiry into the cause of the deplorable situation of the manufacturers of that town and its neighbourhood. The Noble Lord adverted to the language of the Petition. The Petitioners did not give way to unmanly des pondency, but required that the causes of their distrost should be examines!. The Petition having been read. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said. he was desirous of learning front the Noble Earl opposite, whether it was his intention to refer the Petition to a Conunittee ? The Earl of 1.1 V ERPOOL.-1 feel no difficulty in giving the Noble Marquis the satisfaction he requires. A Noble Friend of mine (Lord Calthorpe) has stated, that having had communi cation with his Majesty's Ministers. he found it was intended in another place to institute enquiry as to the matter of the Petition. It is a question, however. with me. whether it is not better to have a simultaneous examination in this House. I can have no objection to enquiry in this. and whenever a motion is made by any Noble Lord. 1 shall think it necessary to state my views with regard to the important object of the Petition.— I am aware thatho satisfy the public mind such enquiry should take place ; but at the same time I am of opinion there should be some previous discussion on the general object, to prevent sny deception going out of this House to the public. 1 shall be prepared to give an opinion on the general topic of the Petition, IS a proposition is made to submit it to a Committee. My Lords. I do not think the Executive Government ought to come down to propose a measure unless they could clearly see their way in proposing remedies of such an important nature. I cannot close taco: observations without bearing testimony. in the strongest mariner. as to the temperate, conduct of the inhabitantas of the town from whence this Petition comes. I can say, that great as the misfortunes have been which the population of that town have es.periented. they have behaved with patience. which entitles t`.etti to every indulgence which good and loyal subjects can claim. Among those indulgencies, that of having their grie vances fairly stated, and enquired into, is not the least. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE observed. that the Petition did not point out any remedy. but called on the House to give their attention to the state of the country. Stich an appeal would not be made in vain. and he expected such enquiry as would lead the House to the real situation of the country. Having learned from his Majesty's Ministers their intention on the sub ject, lie should feel it his duty on an early day to submit a motion to the House; but he was fat from thinking that such a subject in the hands of an individual like himself would be attended with any beneficial effect. It' it was left to him he should confine his motioo to pealed points. The Noble Marquis then proposed, that he should sees. shortly after the holidays, to appoint a Comminu le invesagate the means of extending the foreign Veit of this emeetry. That would be but one view of the quee ns% end be was far from thinking such a view could relieve that Hesse imd Ms Majesty's Government from the important duty ef Oil: the bottom the cause of the evils. A duty more espy tome extensive. never devolved on any Government. Noble Marquis said. be should give notice of his motion on Thursday n'enight. Earl GROSVENOR intimated, that the intended enquiry should extend not only to the manufacturing. but agricultural distresses. The Earl of LIVERPOOL. said, the motion of the Noble Marquis was to refer to foreign trade, but he was ready to admit in stating a general view, he could not do it without adverting to agricultural distress. At the same time it did not follow that the motion should be so extensive. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said. if agriculuull distress was introductd, it ought to form a distinct point in the discussion. —(Hear, hear !) The Earl of LAUDERDALE expressed himself unwilling to enter into any discussion on the distresses of the country, — The subject ought to be brought forward by the Executive Governm,:nt. Earl DARNLEY said it was not possible, in the intended dis. elision. to peas over the Petitions oftlte Agriculturists. Lord ERSKINE agreed that attention ought to be paid to the Agricultural interest, but the subjects ought to be separated. The EARL of DONOUGHMORE observed that the House should do milling in these questions without caution. He regretted that Government did not bring forward the distresses of the country. They had the means of being better acquainted with the distresses of the people than the Noble Lords on this aide the House. He considered it the duty of the Ministers to take up this Petition. and propose some means of relief. The Eart of LIVERPOOL reminded the House that he had stated his intention to enter fully into, the subject of the Peti tion. but hr wished to defer all explanation until the discussion came on. The Petition was then laid on the table. Lord STANHOPE, pursuant to his notice, moved that a Select Committee be appointed to eon , ider the practicability and means of employing the poor in the manufactunng districts. The Earl'of LIVERPOOL could not give his assent to the r.totion. lie could not agree to it. because however benevolent the Nobic Lord's intentions might be, his projects must produce dissent. Tiley went to the intire subversion of the political interests of the country. They were calculated to separate the Interests of toe manufacturer front the agriculturist, which had hitherto been closely connected. After some turtlier discussion, the motion was negatived, and the House adjourned. tygnosseisY, MAY 17. Mr. M. A. Taylor, and other Nleutberi from zhe Commons, brought up I.le Stage Coach Bill. Ma. Brugdso also brought up the South Sea Company's Bill, and the Irish Stock Transfer Bill, which were read the first time. The Insolvent Debtors' Bid was read a third time mod passed. The HMO adjourned. THE NATIONAL REGISTER. THURSDAY. MAY IM. The Glebe Lands Bill was read a third time and passed. The Stage Coach Regulation Bill was read a second time. The South seik p Compitny Bill was read a second time. The I,iish Stack 'fransfer Bill was also read a second time. PAPF:ItS ilk:LA*llNa Marquis of LANS. DOWN moved for Copies and Extracts of 'Treaties now sub sisting with Foreign Powers relating to Trade and Navigation. It was his intention to move. for a return of the Exports carried on between the United States and Canton, but, as the Earl of Liverpool was absent, he postponed that motion. The above papers the Noble Marquis considered essential with respect to his motion upon the Trade of the Country, of which he had given notice, and which stood for Thursday next. He therefore expressed a desire to have the returns on the table as early as possible. The motion for Treaties was then put by the Lord Chancellor, and agreed to by the House. —Adjourned. FRIDAY, MAY 19. Mr. Bullock, from the Treasury, presented Papers relating to the Land Tax. Mr. Johnson presented Returns of the Number of Grand Jury Presentments in Ireland. Mr. Maitland presented an Account of the Revenue and Charges of the East India Company.—Laid on the table. Petitions were presented front tha occupiers of land in the Counties of Berks. Sussex, be. complaining of Agricultural Distress. Lord HOLLAND said he held in his hand a Petition from that respectable class of persons, the Protestant Dissenters, praying the House to relieve them from certain disabilities, which Quakers and other Dissenters in Scotland and Ireland were not liable to, with respect to the Marriage Act. The Petition was read, and ordered to lie on the table. Mr. Brogden and others, from the Commons, brought up the Irish Administration of Assets Bill, which was read the first time. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY moved, for Lord Lansdown, who was absent, '• that there be laid before the House an Ac count of the value and amount of all exports to and front Canton and the United States of America.—Ordered. Mr. Brogden and others brought up the Civil List Bill, which was thereupon read a first time, and upon the Motion of the Earl of Liverpool, was ordered to be printed, and the second reading was fixed for Wednesday next, to which day the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY, MAY 15. A new writ was ordered fur Carlisle, in the room of Mr. C. Curwen, who haw wade his preferenc for Cumberland. Mr. FANE presented a Petition from Landholders in Norfolk, complaining of the state of Agriculture, and ;lly ing that an enquiry into the state of Agriculture might be instituted. Col. LYGON presented a Petition front Kidderminster koinst the New Wool fax.—Read, and ordered to lie ou the table. Mr. COKE presented a Petition from occupiers of Land in Norfolk, complaining of the state of Agriculture, and praying for relief. The Him. Member observed, that he deemed it due to state that he differed front the Petitioners; he attributed the distress to causes different from those named by the Petitioners; (bear!) and that, however lie might agree with the parties in other places and on other subjects. whenever this subject came to be agitated. and he should be found to differ front them.—Read, and ordered to lie on the tattle. Various other Petitions were afterwards presented on the subjects of Agricultural Distress and the Wool lax. Mr. C. Hondas moved the second readies g of the Western Uniou Canal Bill, on which subject malty Petitions had been presented in the course of the afternoon. Mr. BRIGHT seconded the motion. Mr. W. SMI rii and Sir W. DE. CRESPIGNY followed, moving as au ameudinent, that the Bill be read a first time Ibis day six nitooths. Mr. Alderman WOOD observed, that he would not call this hasineisajoh;but to say the least of it.it was au interested proceeding. Supposing toe Bill were to go into a Coin uattee, could the parties pay off the bonds ? The gallery was then cleared for a division. The numbers were—Ayes 16U—Noes 136—Mgjortly in favour of the Bill M. WOOL TRADIC.CIYIL Lisr.—Lord MILTON said. in consequence of the absence of the Chancellor of the Exche• quer, he felt it would be right to pustputte the tiou regarding the injurious teudeucy of the additional Tax nil Wool. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he was afraid his Right Hum. Friend would not be able to attend for a day or two. It was therefore his 'metal ;;;; to suggest the postpunemeut of the consideration of the Civil List Bull till Weduesday. Lurol Al (LION, under these circumstances, thought it would be better for him to postpuue his motion till Friday. Lord A. HAMILTON brought forward his motion, regarding the Scotch 11111'011S of the Exchequer. An enquiry had beeu instituted into the duties, fees, &c. 01 Courts us Justice; and amongst other matters, the Committee halt reported to t h at House, that the fifth Baron of the Ex chequer might be dispensed with, uud recommended nit a vacancy occur ing, that the olti. e should be abolished.—.l vacancy afterwards occurred, but in spite of such recoil,. emendation the office had been filled. He lamented that such an event bad occurred, but as it load takeu place, he could not see how they could avoid noticing it. lie had felt bound to brio.; it under the consideration of Parliament. for othei wise he knew not bow he should reconcile to lonise!' a rigid perforinauce of those duties that might devolve on loin in the part of the kingdom to %%Inch he belonged. It lie heard complaint; now, lie at least should be able to say, i OM lie had aline his utmost to enfaice those retieueliments which bad been recommended as adviseahle and practicable. lie should not have to blame himself. lie concluded with moving as a Resolution, that the House agreed in the piopi iety of the recommendation of the Report. 'The LORD Al) V OCA I E trusted that the House would pause before it adopted such motion. It was true that the recommendation mentioned had been mole in a Report. unit before the new appointment was made, an enquirj also iosti toted amongst the law officers, &c. as to tole opportunity moat existed of dispensing with one of the Baron, of the Sciwcit Exchequer. It had been reported, that, with a due regard lo the business to be performed the usual appointments were If tie (louse should tltiook of agreeing to the motion, lie only wished it to be remembered what was the emu - aster of the precedent that would be set. I:The Ltuiraied Lord oat called to order during his speech, amid admonished by the Speaker to abstain from personalities.) Sir JOHN NEW PORT suppoi ted the motion. Lotto CASTLEREAGH. opposed it, and moved the previous question, but added, that he would nut impose the appointment of an especial Committee of enquiry upon the subject. Mr. VERNA Y said, that be never had entertained a doubt this was one of the questions which Ministers would Mel t by the segatiagAf the previous question. What course had the Motile ICorikunaird ? He had endeavoured to makes„ peoplepatiesvehaT Ministers were a set of very ill-used Anitieincii, and giving the real point in dispute the hy, he ILid maintained Butt the Noble Lord (A. H unli nks) had introduced a new-faugled, or, to use his Lordship's own inn-t happily applied epithet, a fantastical proposition. (Hear.) Opposition had often been accused of being its credulous, of tieing unw BIM,: to pat faith in the prisfessions of economy by Ministers; so help him God, he for one, did tiotbelieve them; without imputing any improper motives, he did not believe that real practical economy was lobe hoped for from them.—(Cheers.) —They had soother chance of maintaining themselves in their places but by holstering theinsdres with all kinds of pensions, salaries, and emolu ments, fur which the people paid a great deal and received nothing.—(hear, hear.) Not very long since the abo- F lition of the mikes of too junior Lords of the Mini). rutty was suoved—: , No—ii is a pitiful concern, a few paltry thousauds it.year, and, above all, it breaks in upon the establishment." [(any hotly spoke of removing tee third Secretai y of State, or of abolishing the Secretary at ,War, the cry was the si lt breaks inupon theestablishineni:" It was soon very easy to call the establishment the constitu tion, tool then woe to ilk' man who lifted his unhallowed hand against it! (Cheers.) The Noble Lord had said, let the question be tried : but the question had been tried ;com inisomiers had already given an opioion upon its but it was not intended by the present moti on to riot here, for it was further to inquire into the grounds of the appointment. It was too much to have at said, that when the %hole country ii ere looking out fur the econ 1111 l y and retrencloneut which had been so loudly proclaimed—it was too bad, after the Minister's own officers had decked this other motel:emery —to bring this forward a. one which ought to be continued. And if the Noble Lord had for u moment attended to his former professions of economy, lie himself would have thought so. They were told to wait for enquiry, a hat was the use of enquiry now ? Let the House look at the upiuions of some of those who concurred in this appointment. Let theta consider their experience and knowledge of the sub. ject. - There was the present Chief- Baron of Scotland (Sir S. Shepherd), whir had lately been an ornament to that House. He sent down, out fully acquainted with the practice of the Scolish courts—a stranger amongst them— and it might have been said," Don't you think we ought to have five Barons instead of four ?'"fo which he in his good nature would say," In the unwise of God, let us have five ;'a and then the Scotchinen cried out" Five for ever !" (Hear, and laughter,) The Noble Lord, however, hail got another arguineut in his favour, and hail asked what would become of Sir Patrick Mtwray ? Was lie to lose the situation which be had been appointed to for life ? He (Lord Castlereagh) would have theiu wait till the next time of appointment for this saving. Such Members might be entrapped by that proposition; but, if they were, and voted against the present minims, there was no further use of eoquiry—there was an end of all hope of economy and retrenchment. (Hear.) Lord A. HAMILTON said a few words in reply, which were wholly inaudible in the gallery. :strangers were then ordered to withdraw• During our CX€IIIMOII from the ;pinery, which was for upwards of an boor and a half, we understand the House divided on Lord A. Hamilton's tnotion,when the numbers were..- . For the motion 177 Against it l/19 Majority Whilst the division was going on, Lord Castlereagh ad dressed the ministerial members in the lobby, aud begged to remind them that a further question remained fur con sideration, and upon which a division might be expected to take place. The intended proposition went to impute blame to his Majesty's ministers fur filling up the vacancy without previously taking the sense of Parliament upon it. On the contrary, in his opinion, it was the business of Government first to fill up the office, and afterwards submit its propriety to the approbation of the House. On our re-admission to the gallery, we found Sir J. NEWPORT addressing the House. lie was supporting the following motion, which, during our absence, was, we understend, proposed by Lord A. Ha milton, and on which Lord Castlereagh nail moved the previous question—namely, " Filet it is toe opinion of this Home that the vacancy occasioned in the Scotch Exchequer Court by the resignation of Mr. Baron Adams should not have been filled up until the report of the com missioners had bees laid before the Howie mid examined." The previous question,`• That this question be but, pbt," was negatived without a division, and of course Lord A. Hamilton's nw,ion was lost. Mr. BROUGHAM wished to know.as another vancan cy had perhaps by that time occurred, whether it was to ue immediaiely lilted np, without inquiry Lord CASTLEREAGH answered, that it would be ne cessary to take care that the public ;orrice was not lett improvided fur. Nothing would be done except wills that view. Mr. BROUGHAM said, they had so mach of Scotch affairs before them, that it would be necessary to proceed by steps. He. therefore, now gave notice, that he would on Friday, the 26th Institut, submit to the House a motion relative to the tilling up of vacancies in the Scotch. Jury Court. SALT.—Mr. BROGDEN moved for an account of Salt of all kinds, used fur agricultural purposes, in the years IBIS and 1519. Orders tl. Mr. LUSH !NG ION obtained leave to bring in a Bill to secure the property of suitors in the Court of Exchequer. The different orders of the day being disposed of, the House adjourned at a quarter before one o'clock. Several Petitions were presented praying for agricul tural relief. ' A new Writ was ordered for Athlone, in the room of Mr. M'Clinlock, who had accepted the office of Escheatcr of Munster. The Stage Coach Regulation Bilkmaking fur ions drivin; a misdemeanour, was read a third tune and passed. Mr. BROOD EN, pursuant to resolutions of a Commit tee, moved for leave to bring in a Bill to prerciit the receiving of fees by the officers of Customs, 6:c. Leave COMMERCI•L PETITION. —Mr. FINLAY presented a Petition from the Chainuer of Commerce, Glasgow, pray ing for a ietnoval of the Restrictions on Trade; it was smaller to the Luudou Petition presented a few days ago by Mr. Baring. Tile Petititsu was brought up, read, and ordered to lie on the table. CORN LAWS.—Mr. BROUGHAM presented a Petition ° front certain laud occupiers in Sow ; pra7k4 for a repeal