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p CLERGY NON•DESIDENCE DILL HOt'SE OF COMMONS. PitRLIAMENTiIitr PRuagEDINGS. 1-101'6F OF LORDS, WEDNESDAY, JULY 6. TL: Attl.nt wee g;v4.n by commit:4w to the Rosh& sad Scotch Amy of Referve On the q lie Ilion for the third reading of the Clergy Readence Bill, Lord Su Fro - ut Ktid, he could not let the prefent op portunit y pals without making fome obrervations on the prefent meafure; and he fhould have made there °bier rations on the laft Bill, when agitated in that Moore, bad he not been prevented by indifpofition from attend ing. He could not help expreffing his difapprobation of the whole of•this proceeding, particularly on ac count of there being no provilion made for the inferior Clergy. He thought that no Clergyman ought to have a lefs falary than tool. a year. Clergymen had the education, and were obliged to fupport the character of Gentlemen. It was impoffible for them to do fo with their fcanty falaries, unlefs they fol lowed occupations that muR degrade them. He knew it to be a fad, that more than one half of the livings in England were under 60 1 . and 701 . a•year. It was, therefore, abfolutely peccary that Come mode fhould be adopted for the relief of thofe who were in indigent eircomflances. He thought it might be an advifable plan to appropriate a certain part of the ircome of the Church to the purpofe of laying up fund for their benefit. He was Cure that the Firfi Fruits and Tenths alone would produce 150,0001. a year.—The Noble Earl then took occafion to con demn the moc! in which Clergymen were now paid : the fyliern of tythes was productive of great mil . - chief in every country where it was praetifed. In England, it was highly injurious to Agriculture ; in France, it contributed in a great degree to bring about he late Revolution ; and it was the principal caufe of all the dillurbances which had prevailed in Ireland for (event years pall. The people of France bad got difcontentcd with the Eccleftaftical efiablifh ment : they raw, that while the inferior Clergy were kept in is Rate of poverty, the revenues of the Bifhops were confiderably increafed ; and he was lure this difcontent did in a great degree lead to the Revolu tion. Much as he difapproved of the prefent Govern ment of France, it had this one good character in it, that every encouragement was held out to agricul ture, which was not Coffered to be impeded by the c dledion of tythes. He wilted, if it could be done, Tome other revenue fur the Clergy might be f ildituted in the room of tythes. He particularly wilted that all Lay Impropriations might be done away ; and whatever lots or inconvenience he might fuller as a Lay Impropriator, he would chearfully fubmit to it, provided the public was benefited. He bad frequently endeavoured to imprefs on their Lord fitips the great evils that muff refute from the fyllem of tythes in Ireland, a fyllern that gave rife to univer fat difeontent among the lower orders of the people. He hoped and trufted that fomething would (Lill be done in that country towards removing there chi contents. His Lordfhip, in the courfe of his fpeech, took occafion to notice a Bill which was brought into the other Houfe of Parliament, concerning lia totes of mortmain, which Bill be fhould ftrongly object to. The Bifhop of Sr. ASAPOI role to order, and ob revved, that the Bill alluded to by the Noble Earl had nothing to do with the queftion then before the jioure. Lord Somme thought all matters relating to the Clergy were conneeed with the prefent Bill ; and he wilted to notice this particular fubjeti at the prefent time, becaufe he fhould not have an opportunity of addreffing their Lordfitips during the remainder of the &Sons, it being his intention to go into the country immediately, for the purpofeof recommend ing it to his tenants to exert themfelves as much as lay in their power, to refill the threatened attacks of Prance._ The Lois CHANCELLOR laid, a great many of the arguments tiled by the Nobl: garl were no way con; neaed with the quellion before the Houle; but to Tome of there he thought it neceffary to make a reply. With regard to the fubjed of tythes, he would tell the Noble Earl, that almoll all the miferies of France were produced by the very circumflance of abolifhing tythes, and depriving the clergy of their fupport.— As long as he had any regard for the facrednefs of private property, he could never Wien to obfervations that went to do away that, which was as much the private property of the Clergy, as the eflates of every Noble Lord who heard him were their private pro. nerty ; and he would declare it as his opinion, that if the prefent property of the Clergy was done awv for the purpofe of lubflituting another in its Bead, he Oionid nut confider his own eftate as fecure fix a tingle day. The Earl of Lit/ERICK laid, however he refpeeed the opinion and au'hority of the Noble Earl who Ipoke againf tythes, he mitt contend that his &Ter tions with regard to Ireland were imfoinded ; and he all() thought it was extremely irregular to intro duce the fubjed into a debate on the Bill then before Cie Houle, with which the difcontents of Ireland had notonneeion whatever. It was not only irregular, but it tended to do mifchief ; becaufe the obfervatioos were introduced at the end of a Scfnon, when they could not be f.llowed tip by any meafure that might cone& the evil complained of, rf any fuck did call; and they only tended to irritate and inflame a let of people whole minds were already too volcanic. The Eithop of ST. ASAPH, in reply to Lord Suf folk, denied that the colleetir,n of tythes was injurious to agilellilllte, as a great yin of them belonged to laymen ; and thole which belonged to the Clergy we r e not always colleeed in kind. The was then read a third time and paired.— Acijournt.d. Mr. TI r vcr pteltettd a Petition frees the pitmen corieed ftrdebt isttc Ikct, pi ar;nii lief. Mr. sews era took the Chair at the Weal hour, anti after Gone private butinefibsd been gone throstei, A Merfage was brought from the I.onts.defiring the artevAinee of the Hoek at their Der forthwith, to bear his his,itfty's Com ma= for declaring the Roysi Arcot to ccrudn Mr.s ,accompanied by fevers' Member I,st tei dni forth with, end, on bis return, reported to the Havre. that this anvil Abort had been ordered to the Bain& and bona Additional Pence BIBS. Read a ferried time, the MU for !rendering more remittal CLOW. Anne's Bawdy INK fur the Rebel of the Poor aergy.—Cusnois ted for to-morrow. The Arial/Inv G r obtained lent to bring la a Bid for be Pater vrattio et s Black Game In 24tw !malt, is UK county of Southampton. He afterwards brought in the PM, and it was read the firft time, and ordered for the fecond reading to morrow. Mr. C. Hureussrsou moved for come returns refpedling the quantity of borne-made Spirits in the bands of the Britith DIRE!. lers on the 4th loft. ; wbich motion he afterwards withdrew, upon ! the reprefentations of Mr. Vanfittart and Sir Laurence Parkins. Mr. Atexawoci reported from the Committee appointed to (wieder of the expediency of enabling the Lord Lieutenant of Ire land to advance money from the public treafury, towards railing an additional force in Irelani —Report agreed to, and ordered that it be an haft ruetion to the Committee on the Additional Force Bill for Ireland, to make provifions accordingly. On the Motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Plzen run r , the difcu Mon on the Real and Perfunal Property Tax was defraud from Monday to Tuciday. MILITIA •AY DILL Sir Wl4. ELIOILD brought up the Report of the Committee on the Militia Pay Bill. On the Report' being read, Sir William role for the purpofe of making Come obfervations, which he was debarred from offer ing in the Committee, having had the honour of be ing Chairman. The fubjea was the fame upon which he had before offered his fentiments to the Hattie, namely, the neceflity for making Come pamanent provifion for Surgeons of Militia Regiments upon the difbandment of thofe Corps. It was always of im portance that the Militia Regiments (bould be attend ed by fkilful Surgeons ; now Rill more Co than ever, when thofe troops were fo likely to be engaged in arduous fervice ; and no Surgeon of &ill would be induced to devote eight or ten years of his life in at tending a Militia Regiment, to the forfeiture of all other proftfilonal praaice,-unlefs he were aft - tired of Come provifion after the reduaion of his Regiment ; and the confequence of omitting to make fuch pro. vifion would be, that the Miliva Regiments would be defected by all the fkilful Surgeons, and left to the mercy of unfkilful and inexperienced boys. He did hope that Tome fuch meafure would have been introduced into the Bill by the Right Hon. the Se cretary at War, who had done fo much for the im provement of the Militia ; and he hoped Rill that he would adopt the idea. For his own part, he felt his own unimportance too much to expert he fhould have weight to carry any motion on the fuhjea ; he fhould therefore decline making any.----The Report was read without any farther obfervations, and thelßill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. •RMY OF RESERVE. The Order of the Day being read for the fecond reading of the frith Additional Force Bill. General Gascovas role, he laid, with very great reluaance, to trefpafs once more upon the indulgence of the Houle, by a few obfervations upon a lubjea which had already been fo fully difcuffed on a former night, namely, the fituation in which thefe Countries (land, as with refpea to the danger of the threatened invafion, and the means for our defence. On this fubjeU a very confiderable impreffion had been made upon the minds of many Gentlemen in that Houk, and had very fcrious effeas without doors upon the funds, and the monied and commercial interells of the Country ; nor was it matter of furprife, that arguments of fuch defponding tendency fall ing from fuch high authority, as that of a Right Honourable Gentleman near him (Mr. Windham), and that of an Hon. Colonel near him, of high military experience, and well known to the Powers of Europe, and alfo from feveral other Gentlemen of high military experience. His purpofe for rifing this day, was to do away thofe impreffions, for which he really felt no ferious grounds, notwithltanding all the menaces of the enemy, and his difplay of prepa rations to invade this country. It mu ff be in the recolleltion of every Gentleman who heard him, that in 1798, the menaces of French invafion were to the full as loud, and talked of with as much alarm as at the prefent moment : that a French army was Aim bled upon the oppofite coatis, avowedly for the pur. pole, and affuming to itfelf the pompous and daring appellation of " The Army of England ;" but it muff be alfo recollettled, that in the courfe of a few months, this army was withdrawn, and the next thing heard of it was from the (hones of Africa, on its way to Egypt, where it was finally deffroyed, or taken by the real A-my of England, whole name it had audacioufly ufurped. Was it not therefore to the full as likely, that the army now affembled upon the oppofite emits, though avowedly deftgned for the invafion of this country, was really intended for Come other defign ; probably for the re-capture of Egypt, which Bona parte bad avowed to be his favourite objea, and one of which he never would lofe fight ; or, poffibly, for an attack againft our poffefflons in the EaR or Well Indies ? If, therefore, we continued to retain the whole of our force, to Rand upon a mere defenfive fyftem at home, without any attempt to attack the enemy in his vulnerable points, or preparing to meet his deigns in other quarters, our finances would be exhauffed, in endeavouring to fupport fo tardy and inaaive a fyllem. An Hon. Gentleman, formerly a Member of that Hoare, but now no more, had often expreffed his furprize at the novelties produced by the French Revolution in the courfe of the war ; but what would he have faid at this day, had he lived to have Peen Inch an extraordinary novelty as this country, poffeffed as flue was of (itch a formidable Navy, flufh ed with vianr:.!s, and In ably manned and appointed for our defence ; with a difciplined army of zo,ooo troops of the line, within our country, befides 70,000 Militia, well armed and difciplined, and fo numerous a body of Volunteers, alfo well difciplined, exclufive of the schooo men to be railed under thole Bills, alarmed at the menaces of invafion from an enemy who has no Navy flue dare fend to lea, without the moral certainty of finding their way into Britifh ports, inftead of ever return ing to France ? For his own pa.t, he thought the apprehenfion of invafion from inch an enemy shutoff ridiculous ; and that inflead of (boding upon the defildite, we ought to fill up the regiments cf the line with the men to be railed, to the number of asoo or ism men to a regiment, as at once the bell mode of accelerating their difcipline, and of king prepared to firike an effettual blow, whenever and wherever opportunity &mild offer.— Mu.h had been faid of the difadvantages attendant on impettea difcipline ; he was ready to admit the imprltance of rod difcipline, but he by no means thought it fo difficult to be acquired, to fit troops for aet , iin. He remembered in the IA war three regi ments brigaded fur continental ferrite, who, the very day after they vere joined by a body Map recruits in their coloured clothes, matched to attack Fiche gin ; and thole brave fellows fought with as much iteadinef• and gallantry as any men in their corps. Confide, ing the powerful manlier in which our Wry was manned; confidering that the garrifons of Gr-- brakar and Malta bid a coafidecabls number of troops more than they required, he was confident' that a body of 50,000 men could, with great pro priety, be (pared for offenfive operations, and they ought to be kept ready embarked, to feize on the tirlt opportunity for a ma(erly blow, inftead of con fining the country to a ruinous and inactive fyflem of defenfive war, which would ablorto our refources to no manner Of effeet. With refped to the menace of French invafion, there was nothing new in the pro ject towards this country, though there was certainly fomething extremely new in the mode now propofed for carrying it on. Under the Rings of the Houfe of Bourbon, it had been frequently threatened ; it had been menaced in all their wars with England.— But even in the zenith of their power, and when they poffeffed powerful fleets, they never daft venture ; much lets did they fucceed in carrying . their menaces into effed. Even in the reign of Lours XIV. when they might have looked for the aid of a ftrong party in this country (the adherents of the abdicated Houfe of the Stuarts), a force was prepared on the coaft of France, more than once, for the purpofe of invading this country, and at one time they would have car ried this purpofe into cited, had it not been for the fignal vidory obtained by the gallant Admiral Rude!. But if in the proudeft days of the French navy fuch a project was impracticable, where was the probability that it could fucceed when France has no navy that we fflould not take nr deftroy, fo foon as they dare venture to fea ? Nothing could excufe the unfounded apprehenfions that had operated to atom and dif may any portion of the community ; but that having familiarifed themfelves with imaginary terrors, they had not the fortitude to difcard them on reflection. But to fuppofe that the project, impracticable when Fcance had a powerful Navy, would now be attempt erwith fuccefs, in open boats, was too ridiculous a ground of alarm. What would our anceftors fay of fuch apprehenfions ? or would they have fuppofed their pofterity would in the proudeft era of their naval ftrength, have indulged filch filly fears? He de fired to afk any military man, if a broad river, inftead of a fea, divided the countries, and that the enemy were to attempt eroding it in the face of an army poffeffed of every ftrong hold upon the whole op pofite line, while he was obliged to leave behind him all his cavalry and artillery, what would be his chance of fuccefs ? and fuch mutt be the fituation of the French army attempting an expedition in open boats. Was it probable that the ambition of Bona parte would prompt him to fuels an attempt upon this country, where he would meet an enemy in every tree—for wherever there was a tree, he would be Pure w find an Englifisman behind it (a laugh).— But fuppofing them to have boats enough for fuch an expedition, how could they offerable on their coafts in a collective fleet, while our frigates were conftantly looking even into the receffes of their harbours, and prepared to deftroy their force wherever it was col lating ? And even if this were not the cafe, their voyage to reach our (bores mutt have the con currence of fingularly favourable cireumilances.— They mutt have an unruffled fea, a fair wind, a dark night fucceeded by a fog next day, and our frigates mutt have abandoned their Rations and returned into harbour, to Puffer fuch an expedition to approach our (bores unmolefted. It was, however, ridiculous to fuppofe any open boat would venture on fuch an attempt, while our frigates were able to keep the fee ; fo that mad as the prefent Ruler of France may be, and defperate and infatiable as his ambition evi dently. is, he cannot be fuppofed mad enough to pro ceed upon a projeß, where himfelf has acknowledged the title of dank:Jinn to be as one hundred to one spina him ; and while we can look with fuch confi dence to fo powerful and gallant an army and navy, we may laugh at his menaces. It has been laid, that we might be approached by three divilions. He did not profefs to be a calculator, but if it was one bun. Bred to one that one expedition could not fucceed, it was three hundred to one that three could not foe teed Ca laugh). And be wifhed to afk any naval Of ficer, if there was the flighteft probability of fuels a concurrence of circiimftances—now even that the equinoctial gales [a laugh] were approaching--for fuch an expedition to approach our litotes, without meeting deftrudion ? Befide, as he before remarked, without cavalry (which he never heard it was intended they fhould bring) and artillery, on which they fo much relied, and which they mutt leave behind, their attempt mull be unfuccefsfal, even if they were per mitted to land ; In that the attempt mull be the very acme of folly, raffinels, and frenzy. Much, however, as he ridiculed the menace, he by no means wiffied to throw the country off its guard, or to flacken its exertions foe fecurity. He wifhed that a molt formidable force might be conftantly kept op, and one ready relbarked, prepared to ftrike a blow, which would encourage the enflaved and out raged Powers of Europe to route from their humili ation and debalement, and to throw off the French yoke ; and he doubted not, that the oppreffed and intuited people of Switzerland. Batavia, and Italy, the moment they fhould fee any chance of fine s, would be up, to a man, for the purpofe of regaining their liberty and independence. It there ever was a period during the late war, at which there was real caufe to apprehend the faccefsful invafion of thefe i(lands, it was at the period of the rebellion in Ire land, which would never have occurred, but for French promifes of ample fuccours.to the doaffeeted. But the deluded people of that country had expe rience enough of Gallic faith, and its coidequences, to trult them again. Nor could he think it prffible, after all that was in notorious of the snflavement of the countries of Europe, where the perfidious French found footing, that the deluded people of Ireland could be at this day fo befotted, as to be defirous of exchanging the invaluable bleffings of a Britifh Con. ffitution, to become the naves of France, who, inftead of friends at this day. would meet in Ireland a wh”le nation of the moil decided enemies. Though lime defpondeney had been excited by the declarations made within there walls on the fubjed, yet he was glad the fpirit of die country was routed. He thanked his Right Han. Friend near him (Mr. Windham) for having roofed that fpirit; and he thanked his Ma- Minifters for the vigour they had manifefted in difpofing the refources, and arraying the ftreagth of the country ; and convinced he was, that before force of the country already in arms, the moment that real danger &mild approach our. (bores, or a foreign foe Pet foot upon this Mond, there was not a man within or without thole walls, that would not My to arms, limning to avail Warfel/ of any plea of sscasption from the defence of his country. Gent:ral LOrrtis raid, upon the follqll confides- tion, he law no caufe for alarm ; for though certainly the enemy had many able Generals, ani veteran troops ufed to fervice in open countries, yet (hoold they be able to land a force in this inclofed country, the whole nature of military operations would be changed, as every lane, ditch, hedge, and wall, would prefent a ftrong poil for their annoyance and deflruc. tion. Suppofe even that an army of forty thoufand men (hould land--Here Sir Ropers . Bu x row role, and moved the [landing order of the Houfe, for clearing the gallery of [lran, gers, which was immediately done. We bays beard, that after the Gallery wan doled, a eery lote refting debate took place —After General Loftus, Colonel Craw. ford entered into a general detail of the means of attack, and the means of &knee on the part of the country—He was anfwe-ed by Sir Wm. Erlkine, who sombated many of his opinions; (poke in the higheft terms of the militia regiments • and declared that he thould. prefer any ten battalions of e force of ;hat defcriptido to any ten regiments of Auftrians (however highly he valued than), far the defence of the country. This (peach was, we underftand, very animated, and made a ftrong impregion on the Hoofs. it wan Sir William's Srft fecech.—.Mr. Windham followed, and went over the old grounds of preference to the regular fame. The other Gentlemen who (poke were—the Chancellor ashy Exchequer, Sir Robert Buxton, who faftified the Magifbates for the meafure that bad been taken in apprehending vagrants, and giving them the option of a prifen, or raving his Maid : lye—Sir William Pulteney, General Tarleton, General Maitland, and Cap. talc Harvey, who reprobated the opinion that our naval means of defence were not to be properly cunfidered....The Hook then went into a Committee, when Cane new eiaufes were propofed by tho Secretary at War.—The Hoofs adjourned Coon after ten o'clock... LONDON. THURSDAY, JULY 7. PRICE OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK: 3 per Cost. Confoia for opt 3314...RodurrdS4iiii Orsoium PRICE OF STOCKS YESTERDAY Long Ann. 5544 India Bonds 33. a Fa. dIL bar. 3 per Cont. 5141 axetieq. BiUa, sa. 7s. So. die Omninm 6 5 AC Conti* for 'KC. 34 55f Bank Stack •••• iPeralitd- SS 534 3 per Crnt COOL 54 534 53 4 pee Can. 66 651 67i 67 5 per Cent. Nevi 83 8n 83 S Pa Ct. Alm 1797,35 i g 641 The Army of Referve Bill received the Royal Af. fent yellerday, and the plan, which has thus become ti law, is immediately to be carried into full execution. We have received Paris and Bruffels journals to the 3d inftant inclufive. They are chiefly filled wick addrefes to the Flarr Congos., and offers of gun. boats, kc. for the invafion of England. They pros fent nothing new or Interelling ; but the ceremonial to be obferved by the Clergy of the different town; when they receive the FIRST Census., is fo extremely curious, that we have given it at full length. Dolman, Juan 27.—A camp of sochoce men, it is (aid, is to be immediately formed in the environs of St. Omer; one of 6a,000 men 4t Cherbourg; anci one of 40,000 in Holland. GHENT, JUNI 281,-.-The BialOp of Ghent has re. ceived from the Counfellor of State, charged with all affairs refpeding worlhip, the following letter ; Page, pee 23. " The FIRST CONSUL fets out for Belgians. I fend you the ceremonial traced nut by the pontifical itfelf for his reception, with fora' (mall modifications to be made in the prayers. We cannot render too much hon nr, and tellify too much gratitude, refpeti, and love for the Chief of the nation, the rekorer of reli. gion, and the Ilate. I have the honour to lalote you. " PONTALIS." CtitSIONIAL TO It OSSUTLD roe Tat RIMPTLON or Tit MIT CONSUL IN Tilt TOWNS WNICII at SWILL flats The hilltop, with his clergy, (hall go to meet the Cum Count. without the gate of the town, and prefent to him the crofs to be killed ; (hall place him under a canopy, and condud him in that manner to the principal church, chanting the Anthem fore sotto swim= rmss gui yr&yerait vials mean ants facing teals, with hymns or pfalms analogous to the cere mony. Holy water (hall be prefented to the Cai!ae Consul. at the door of the church ; he (hail touch the holy water-Rick with his finger, and poke the fign of the croft. Holy water (ball be given alfo'to the ConsoL's fuite, not by prefentation but by a 1 perfion, making a gentle Inclination, and withook changing place. It Mall be given alto to Madam BOXAPART. by prefentation, if Ilse be prefent, and immediately after the ems/ Conant.. The Cuts, Consul. Mall then be concluded to the Grand Altar, where be Gall kneel under a canopy' prepared for him. The Bilhop afeend on the left fide of the Altar and chant in the anal tone, with his head bare, and looking thwart's the cosnpay, the following safes and prayer:— &ham far Napaltram prism Caarake wham. Dwaine. A. Dom atam,,frerakto ia ft. Ylpr ti. Dearise,sintilari &mew R. Xi de Simi tam essa. Reba ',Oust imimiats is 410. R. It Aliso isiritatiroa emote oar, e!. Pia pm in wield" Ma. Pl. Is aismiamtie se farriias twis. Desist, nun& . ti's. R. Drams volifans, IS& ORIN VS. DAS fp is CIO, MARI feat orda keteretelime, Jettanst *Orem hatift• teat #'. worn setiftriartrie toe, et pima Cajal "few Napless' female two mimeo ore faftirria fri)proor bardtir, dr toe" et to j ieteet. elates email mime tratellet. Preetseis, Demise, portant, a er:eee &gal wefirs,fieresie toe, elttete• ram egie,it asswila, ise a, t••• tai pryperinit t tea dire plate dfisisseredor, pr Deeeimea ogre. Kam. Ye Dona fhall then be chanted, if it has not been done at the time of his reception: the Bifhop fhall theta give bis folemn benedittion, and condua the Cana Coaaot to his palace. rural vorr. Joe e 25.—According to letters from the frontiers .f Turkey, the Ottooma (quadrat,