The National Register. — London, England, 1822-03-11 00:00:00

WO . ittpettal atitiontitt. I . HOUSE OF LORDS. MONDAY. MARCH 4. The County Assizes Bill was read a third time and passed.-- Adjourned. TET:STAT. artnot 5. The LORD CHANCELLOR heard appeals. Mr. llrogdcn, and other Members from the Commons. brought up the Irish arms and gunpowder importation bill, which was read the lirst time. The Irish population act amendment bill, and the Irish seizure of arms indemnity bill, were read a second time. Several public papers were presented, sad the (louse ad journed. WEDNESDkY, MARCH 6. The Transfer of Aids Bill, the Exchequer Bills Bill, the To bacco Duties' Bill, and the Arms Importation Bill, were read the second time. The Irish Population Bill, and the Seizure of Arms Indem . rtity Bill, went through Committees.—The House adjourned. sritunsnay, atattcm 7. The Irish Population Act Amendment Bill was read the third "line and passed. The Transfer in Aids Bill—the Importation of Arms and Gunpowder into Ireland Bill—the Exchequer Bills Bill, and die annual Duties' Bill, severally passed through Committees.— Adjourned. FRIDAY, MARCH B. Mr. Woodford from the Treasury, presented an estimate offal the Tuxes proposod anti repealed since the termination of the late pr.—Larl on the table. The transfer of Aids Bill, the Exchequer Bills Bill, and the annual Duties Bill, were read the third time and passed. HUNT'S BREAKFAST POWDER. The Marquis of LANSDOW NE said, he rose to move for certain returns connected with a subject to which he called the attention of that House and the public. It had been stated in the other House of Pailiament, and was the subject of much public conversation. He alluded to the prosectit;ans instituted by the Board of Excise against persons selling a preparation of roasted wheat, under the name of breakfast powder. fliese pro secutions lie understood had been commenced on pretence of the substitute for tea and coffee interfering with die sale of collar. He was not able to say how the sale of the article might atiect the Revenue, but lie considered it highly illegal to prevent the sale of any article of food and subsistence, without the same was prohibited by law. It certainly wits an abuse of the power given the Commissioners of Excise, when that power was stretched so RS interfere with any article not prohibited by statute. It' roasted wheat became an article of food, it might be advantage ous to increase the consumption, rather than prevent it ; but the rabble Marquis considered the matter in a constitutional point of view. If an officer in the revenue had the right to seize every article he might consider injurious to the revenue, the effect would be a transfer of the power of that House to the Board of Excise. It was an important question for the consideration of Pailiament, and with the intention of making it a subject of inquiry, he moved for an account of all instructions given by the Commissioners of Excise to their Officers respecting the seizure of imitative coffee, and the prosecutions cominenced for the tale of the article. The Earl of LIVERPOOL did not object to the motion, and the return was ordered. The Earl of LIVERPOOL rose to move the third reading of two bills on the table, one entitled a bill to regulate the im portation of arms, gunpowder, and ammunition into Ireland ;" the ether •• a bill for indemnifying such persons as have seised or detained any arms or gunpowder in Ireland. since a time to be limited, for the preservation of the public peace." The noble Earl observed, with respect to the first of these bills, that it had been the law in Ireland during sonic time, but the act having expired in August last, it became necessary to make a liew law, providing for the public service, as if the old act had not mired. He concluded by moving the third reading of the bill. Lord HOLLAND said, when the noble Earl admitted that the provisions of these hail beer. practical law in Ireland during some time past, he could not avoid saying, they were measures for nothing more nor less than disarming the people of that un fortunate country. The nature of such laws was repugnant to the Constitution. and nothing but absolute insurrection could jastity them. When such means were resorted to, the House must naturally feel that Government, during 42 years, hail ttie elected to place Ireland in a condition to enjoy the Constitution. to which they were admitted by the Act of Union. inc noble Lord concluded by observing. he could not allow the bills to pass without makin4 die alone !MAI k>. Tie bill was read the third time and passed. Tire Earl of LIVERPOOL then moved the third reading of the Solute of Arms Indemnity Bill, which was accordingly read and passed. On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR a bill brought in by his Lordship (as we understood) to regulate the praatice of 'atomics. was read the second tiazie.—.Adjoarned. HOUSE OF COM MONii• MONDAY, MAUCH 4. The 'marital accounts of the West Lidia Dock Company, and of the Shoreham Harhour, acre pn•seutcd. Lord OSSULSTON presented F. petiti ~,, from th , • spirit d..der• of Hero icts•ulioa-Tn red, lora , iii ; ; I laid the resir IC • Dons IrEarditig Sent. h nhltke) noi,;oit be taken oil, as fat us regardr I I h.,t I.l.tee. l'elot outs, cooniolaining of agricultural distress, mete pre sewed from IV urcet tershoie and Devonshire. Oldcred to he d. Mr. NIA liEli LEY complained of the difference bet a cen tinr public accounts, laid Irefore all the nrt•tnbets, and the noble Margnis's (Loololowlei ty ) deinds ; he knew nut how mere could lie such sat lance and he therefore mos cd fur returns explaining the reasons of these dolleorlices in the cu-tarns and excise ; in the land a lid I:I7CeS, hoped tn, seneruwas onuld be rordeo ed, and hat they would br ready before Iris tine, tiled for the 14th inst. lie moved for •tccuaeli to show 114,W those sari:owes arose, In-Alone he did nut aWI to be told when he brush hl torn ard ourrtion, that the stitteinei.to were nut the Goveinment's Ltd. lo.s. Aft, r some remarks from Mr. C. Wynn, Mr. Hume, /kr. e rontioo wo. w nhdrann, on the understanding that Mr. 11.1,11ilog.toon %%mild lay betiote tile Hour: uct•nunl stating Coe louods Of ,ebs al aettut.t., before the 14111 fhc assixs coininiss ~,,, bolt tam, brought fonts the Lords. rt hr,t time. Mr. CANNING presented a petition flit' merchants of Lr%iirpuol engaged in the forei,ol corn trade, pr.tyurq that tit House would take their case iiiiu ctaisidi con referred to a commit' Cu. Mr. 600C11 (fiiiin the oopppositiou bench) , aid hr wished to learn room the right bun. cent. oppoodte—(cheerio; and IduOlire) whether any Orontes had taken place since Fe iday, Oil toe subject of the malt ta s. The CIIANCELLOR of the ExenEQUER replied, trout he ;impure.] that the repeal should take place (rum E. h. 41, the day nu which the resolution passed. r. Ouden, Mi. Libre, &c. eskiwned what was to be done ft% ..(11111g tree • .m hand. 1u CiiAtii.:f.l.l.oa of the LXCHEQUEIt THE NATIONAL REGISTEn that the plans puianeil n foriner instances where InXeß had been taken tiff at re to be adopted w here the duty had been paid It was to he retutrad. Mr. G. BEN N urr said, this was another ins•ance of the injuri )))) s tendency of the sielit. bass centlentan'a plane t— ithe:Ay had persons brew induced to take emit to market water 'disadvantages. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented n petition from Mr. 11. complaining of the injurious and oppre.e.ive h a e t edars hich were daily heaped on Mtn, tee severities being con stantly increased, in liehester jail. Ile had also received a letter from Mr. 11. mentioning, that within these few days fresh oppressions had been resorted to, thous closed, mid the family rt loved admission to Mr. Hunt when a surAimil operation was to he performed. lie should call the atten tion of the Iliiuse to this question as auon us the evidence wits printed. Mr. 11011110 USE slid there ens no hope except the Government interposed, and that by reinovieg liiin from b 0 " untenable" n prison us that of Ileliestcr, , but at all events let the House recollect that there ought lint to be a lolls deley—that while the petitiou was printing Mr. Hunt was sufferinz. Mr. SCARLETT complained of the tuition; enquiry had proved it not to he a hat had been represented. Mr. LOCKHART said the law had been improperly acted upon, and the lion Alderman ought instantly to bring the subject before the House in a specific form. Dr. LUSH INGTON depiecnted the conduct of judres in signing general rules. Ile hoped the magistrates would lay b. lane the j titlaes a series of hen reaulations. Ao to the jail, if it had been properly inverted, it was impossible those atrocities could have taken place that were proved to have been committed. Mr. Militiaman II EYG ATE said, sifter what hail berm proved, the House ought to look at Ilchester jail with suspicion. Petition read and ordered no he printed. Dr. LUSH IN GI - 0N pi esented a similar potion from in habitants of Ileliester Sir It. WILSON another petition from Eccles, praying the Hume to address the King to commute Mr. Hiee's seutence.—Read. and ordered to be printed. Sir J. NEWPORT presented a petition, to which he begged the serious attention of the house, ri lay inipro iators of Wates ford, complainiug of the present system of tythes. They felt assured, and lie agreed in opinion with them, that the interests of the elergy,av well as Mote of the country, would be benefitted by a revision of the tythe system. It gave rise to the grossest abuses. In Tipperary there had been .)01. demanded fur tythi s by a uctur, but on Wylie) , tile Dian said that only 111. was due. (Hear.) Now he contended that a system, which would admit of such unjust demands and oppreasiuns, must be bad. Mr. GOULI3URN said, that government had the sub ject under consideration, with the view of seeing what amendment vonlil be devised. Mr. HUNIE asked the noble marquis whether the tythes of England had engaged the attention of government, but received 110 answer. The petition was read, after which Lout EBRINGTON repeated fir. Hnine's inquiry. Lord LONDONDERRY replied, that lie was not aware of government having any inteution to introduce a measure on this subject. When Breit. was such intentiate lie should be happy to give nutlet: to the hatax. Petition ordered to be printed. Mr. ELLICE presented a petition from an individual named Ti ow, 'Haying for more bate, as he could not gel .1 the opinion of tour trustees regarding the Five per Cents. scheme. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, lie saw no t CAW' , for departing from the plan lie had already aunoiunced. Particular eases of hardship would be sus ceptible of special remedy. Mr. TtintsEv protested against this bill being consi dered like Mr. Pellianes—it 5505 its no respect like it.— When was the report to he brought ? Tile CHANCELLOR. of the EXCIiEQVER said, the report could be discussed on Thursday. Mr. GRENFELL asked, whether (lucre was any rate of remuneration between the Government and the Batik fur managing the reductions of the rive per Cents. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that no late of re 1111 l wration had been agreed upon; there was to be a clause introduced into the bill fur such purellse. Mr. P. GRENFELL Said, the subject was important, and ought to be closely watched by the house. The ma nagement of the public debt gave the Batik 270,01;01. a year, and would annually cost that suet, except the noose interleted. Had the wisdom of true mouthy given them another Bank, this management would be at ninth less expellee. Sir R. WILSON asked, whether there was any haib in the i ionour of an interruption of peace between Russia and *flukey The Marquis of LONDONDERRY had no hesitation to dubs' er, thotigh the question was calculated to affect the 111..lket, that there was out the least cause for such rumour. Sir IL WILSON said lie had asked, because he was deeply interested Ist the question. Mr. SCARLET I' gave notice, that on the 3d of April he should again introduce his bill to emeriti the poor laws, supposing the 4,000,0001. scheme of goveinunalt to be abandoned.—( Hear.) Lord LONDONDERRY did not see any necessary comiectiois between 1.111:11 luaus and the poor laws. Mr. SCARLET said it might be seen. linen the re m' to, that nothing could be more injtuions to the interests 'dike pour than lending the public money in such manlier. The house then went into a committee ua the Five per Ceots. bill. Mr. GRENFELL said, he should move the rejection of the chaise for reintirierating persons who might be ca lk a bill into effect. lie thought the eageil in carryiug Bank ought nut to make any charge, beiug the richest corporate body in the wni The vilely was cieared for • division. The numbers were--Fur the clause, it—Against it, 39-111 ojoi By, 37. After some ratifier business (lath been disposed of, and after sonic questions relative to the estimates, the houses on the molten of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, went into a committee. The Attu) , estanatt were I tier red to stieli con 111 l it tec. Lord P.AL3IERSTON detailed the estimates, and said. that considerable seductions had beets ma de; that In the patience of the army there was a thIVIIIR of upwards of one million; that tke diminution in the iiiiinher of men was 12,';40 „ mud that this bad btu eticated by ieductog too . • companies in each regiment. He ennelnded with snoring the grant of 68,0001. for the nsr of the army. Cel. DAVIES complained of the continued extrava. genre that eliaractraised our military establishments; of the sparing diminutions, and partietilarly of the rapture of the state. There might he tar more extensive savings if there woe the disposition to lettuce. He maintained that many of the offieers, one dint of every two majors, the waggon train, Sic. might he reduced. There might be a reduction of 5,1;01 nom, even according, to the present principle of keeping lip the army ; there might, in fact, be a saving of tais,toui. tie proposed such reductioess ul an amendment. Lord I'.II..MEINTON replies', that there was nit satis fying lion. gentlt men opposite. Last year a retitle:ion of 10,003 men was reanited by them, now they %etc c•inis with a 'eduction of I2,0(0. Indeed, increase of appetite seemed to grow from what it fed upon. Mr. HUME said he was no party to the request of a reduction of 10,0011. Ile last year maintained that slime might to be a itductiott of 20,0(.0 men. He contended that a reduction of 10,000 incii wield be made on the number now pi °past dby the noble lard. Each thousand reduced would pioduce a saving of 33,1i0 I. The amend ment proposed by his lam. filen(' (Col Davies) did nut go far I'llaUllah; he should theta fore propuse,as ass amend ment, that instead of titi,bo2, the ;lumber of men should be sti,t-02. Mr. BENNETT contended that the present state of the country made economy the first object, and then-tote the reduction proposed by his hon. friend uncut to be adopted. After some observations from Lord Althortie, Mr. Col craft, Sir C. Hardinge, and Sir R. Ferguson, the gallesy *sits cleared for a division. Fur the amendment, &I-- lonthe original motion, 191i—Majui illy, I 0. The committee then again divided on Colonel I)avies's motion fur a reduction of 5,000 men. For the amend ment, a.i—A galled it, Is I—Major ity, 12th. A slim 0'2,2 iti,2991. Ibis. 7tl was then voted for the pay of the forces. The house resumed, and the repotl was ordered to be received to•moi row. The other orders wets disposed of, and the house ad journed at a quarter before one o'clock. ircesiovr, mallet' 2. Petitions were presented front Doncaster, and Peter. borough, complaining of ag i ricultural distress. Ma. Alit. WOOD presented the repot t on the London bridge petitions. It said, that the standing orders had been complied with. The hon. member then moved for leave to bring in a bill fur the removal of the water-works at London-Midge. Mr. IL SUININ ER expressed his astonishment at this proceeding. Wien it might have been expected that np plicalion would be 1113de for leave to build a new he idge, there was a request made for permission to remove the water-works; is fact that power was already possessed. Motion agreed to. Lord LONI)ONI)ERRV said, his right hon. friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was wittily incapable or bringing forward his motion on She subject of sever itnimations ; lie therefoi e postponed his motion till as day. Lord LONDONDERRY requested, that the hon. mein• bee for Aberdeen WOlllll postpone his motion on the sub ject of the National Debt Office.—Put off accordiug:y. Mr. DENISON moved for leave to briag in a bill to amend the 17th Geo. 111. for the supprt•s•iou of riots and seditious assemblies. The object of the bill was to ;mewl the law respecting the proceedings to recover damages from hundreds, for iujul ies done by riotous pioceetheigs. At Kingston eleven actions were brought, amounting to 691.; the costs were I,lool.;—there were tour actions (lied at Croydon, to recover 71 odd, the costs were up wards of 5001.—The damages in one being 12s. and the costs were 1121.—(11eat, hear.)—l lie remedy lie pur posed was, that the patty aggrieved should give notice to the overseers aftet wards to the magistrates, et lio should assess the damages; and ends assessment to be confiumed or amended a: the Quarter Sessions. Ile moved for leave to bring in a bill to amend Alicia act —'lotion agreed to. Mr. KENNEDY nerved fur leave to introduce his bill again, to alter the mode of striking the pannel in criminal cases in Scotism,. Sir M. W. RIDLEY withdrew his motion on the sub ject of the Lords of the Admiralty, which stood for Thursday, the vote of a former night having i midi-led it unnecessary. Mr. COL RTENAY moved for the revival of the com mittee to inquiie iti , o the state and operation of the law regar ding , pn=tin discipline. Mr.W A liitE called the particular attention of the house to the local jut isilietions of magistrates its prisons, hoping that some regulation would be introdneed to inured die law on such porut.--:11otiou agreed to, and a connuittee appointed. Mr. PEEL gave notice, that on the 1101 inst. lie should more fur a committee to inquire into the state of the 1.0- I ce. The report of the committee of supply on the Airily Estimates VMS presented. On the rending of the lirst resolution, granting the quantity of men, Mr. HUAIE re-urged the necessity of further reduction. Ile had proposed a further reduction that would save halt a million—a stun that had been treatril as a petty paltry saving. Ile lioped tt.e house would not deem it such. — There were npu al ds 0'40,100 men ill England and Ire land, and notuitlistanding the state of Ireland, lie sliotitAt there were tittops enough. He mu% ell og aniciti that the number of men should be :ati3Ojo instead uf laie 00 nt men. Mr. WiLmoT denied that lie hail called the saving paltry and petty, hut lie had called on the house tu icievt the lion. membei's proposition. Mr. HUME was glad that the lion. member drowned the words. He still thought the saving might be t tlecte.l. Mutton agreed to without a division, on the amendment being pressed. Thee other resolutions were speed to. The house then went into a committee on the Annual Malt Tax Act. Mr. LUsHINGTON said this deity expired l'eb. 25th, 1822. Mr. MOCK asked about the allowances on malt in hand. LUSHINGTON said, the arrangements had been explaitted last night—the allowances %%me to be made on the , malt in baud, not on the beer. The fist evoluti that the ditty do cease anti d e t er mine; ti:r second e regarded allowances on stork in hand, the rt tutus to lie mne by lour sil pat ents. 'I . here we e other regu- lat a ions to extend po the like a d va ntages to eland.—Agi red to. Mr. LIISHINGTON anovcil a re3olut►ou for allowatices 4 4.1 .~ -. -t.