The National Register. — London, England, 1821-06-25 00:00:00

191 illperiat 43/aitalltellt. Houslior Lola, MONDAY, JUNE lA. Houses bill, the bish Stamp Duty hill, and others, were brought up from the COlitlllUlle, and read the first time. 'The Irish Election Expences bill, and the Metropolis Gas-light bill, were also Irrintelit pap front the Commons, with the amendments agreed to. The Charitable Lands Exchange bill, and the Justices of the Peace Regulation bill, were read the second time. The Ertl of COVENTRY presented a petition limit Tewkesbury, prat Mg for revision of the criminal laws.— Petition laid on the table.—Adjourned. a LESDAT, JENE 19. Connsel were heard in the Strathmore Peerage canse, and further proceedings postponed to Tuesday. The London ‘Vharls Bill was read the second lime. SLAYS TRADE.—The Marquis of LANSDOWN post. potted his motion respecting -the foreivi slave trade to Monday next. Earl I)ARNLEY, in eonsemience of the absence of noble earl (Liverpool), postponed his motion on the state of the navy until Tuesday next. STATIONERY IN Intl. t NO.—Earl DARNLCY then rose pursuant to notice, to call the attentimi of the lions:• to the improper cenduct of pet sons connected with the sta tionery in behind. He considered the aubjeet of more than uuslinary importance. He regretted that he was obliged to Rae personal observations, but it was his duty to bh lug what he considered a very s g case before the house. mils object was to induce their lordships to con sider how tar it was their duty to put au end to annects• nary enormous expence, occasioned by a monopoly inju rious to the public. The noble earl then entered into a statement of the right of the patentee, Alderman King. He did not impute to that individual anv fraud, hut there most have been culpable negligence. He heel no doubt the Lord Mayor of Dublin would give his Majesty in Ire land a warm and Irish reception. Tie indidual might he the leader of a party, but the public had certainly suf fered by the monopoly he held, and parliament ought to eonsider whether it would not be expedient to do it away. The noble earl concluded by moving a resolution, stating that the individual who claimed the right by patent to supply the offices in Ireland with stationery, had received in the last ten years the sum of 22'3,6001. of the public money, ',Wittig an average of 35,1591. and a fraction per annum. Charges of fraud having been made against per sons in the stationery department, the Lord Lieuteuant of Ireland directed inquiry, and the result was, that the patentee was declared unfit to supply the stationery.— Notwithstanding that deception the government offices were still supplied by the saute patentee. It also ap peared by a letter from Mr. James Roe, first clerk in the stationery office, that paper of inferior quality had been supplied, the prier paid for the best quality. After the resolution had been read, Viscount SIDMOUTH said, it was true that a Mall of the name of Fox, employed by Alderman Bradley King, the patentee, had committed frauds, which could not have gone on, if the o ffi cers of excise had done their duty. The L ord Mayor of DeWitt had prayed to have his conduct investigated by the legal tribunals. The Lord Lieutenant had also thonglu it incumbent on hits to cause inquiry into the subject, which had led to legal iuvesti gallon ; therefore the noble lord could nut attach any blame to the Irish government. With respect to the fraud there was no proof at till. There might be abuses, but the public did not stiller. Restitution was made, and the noble earl lied uo right to atailine a fraud had been com mitted until it was proved. The noble viscount did not wish to detain the house. He did nut think there was any impeachment of t h e integrity of Mr. Wadley King. The second charge, relating to the prices of paper, was under legal investigation, and if it should turn wit against Mr. Bradley King, lie would cease to be the patentee. — Tim noble viscount coacladed by moving the previous question. The Margolis of LANSDOWN felt some satisfaction from the last asstsrailee of the noble viscount, bat he could not admit that the public had not suffered. The public had suffered to an iudelinite degree. The public, by being obliged to take stationery flout the alderman, at his own price, had lost considerable sums. lie hail a paper in his hand, which proved, that paper supplied by the ordinary stationers, at dl. per ream, had bees supplied by the alderman at 71. Mt. Bradley King had no right to stand tit-quitted for serving the pnblie with 'leper of a goality he should not have supplied. It was not a prin ciple of justice to excuse him on the ground of negligence un the part of the excise 'dicers. When they asked whe. Bier the officers had been dismissed from their places, they were told no—because it was the lean of Mr. King. The public It, stick excuses were made the victims of Wog pi ultaeled and extrusive malversatiou. If the law was - enforced strictly open humble amid übse use offenders against the excise lasso, it was but justice to restful re them al.o against the distinguished and opulent tumid guilty of peeu(atiou., He supported the mutton ot his noble friend, awl was happy to hear inquiry was going on respecting the Chat iota systematic plan to supply the piddle wish an ior al lick at the highest Ito tee. Loud s.11)SIOL Fit, In eYplanal 11111 l said he did not jai. lily ally act Mr. Itrathey King ititgol have con 111 l tiled by the negligence of the exeiNe olticecs, WO he said, Mr. plug could not have gone on haul the unicorn Ut excise then duty. lie Earl of LIMERICK was not prepared to say the aides matt 1.4 lo,•en guilty ut le and, and as the subject was amide. I.g.d Isis. stigaltoal, he should support the previous ipsestion, The Earl of ROSSLI N supported the motion. Upon the it...wing ill - the ounle %nosuitult, the patties hail all limed Iv the p. ' . police of the pithl4c. 'lime Lail 01 I I ..t1i..0%t said a few words in support of the preying', tiliebtiuu. Earl DARNLEY then consented, as the subject was stutter legal infinity, to is idol' a w his test/lotion, expressing a hope et the SttiliC Unrc 11141 I.....larriluirsil would lake every menu* within their teach to do away the monopoly. The titutiou was wiU,dt as 11, Viscount 511.1MolUTII Bien ailserted to the papers on the subject which had berm laid un the table, add inn • nested that there was stroll; re.tsun lit bdiere the existence of a consistency to ruin Mr. King.—A , ljoorlied. JOXE 20. After the appeal betimes appointed for the day, the Thames ballast bill. tenl :Arceal private tale mete brought up born the Coniuions and lead the first time. --4 -1111 11ir THE NATIONAL REGISTER The Irish prisons bill, the sale of poor houses bill, and Irish stamp duties bill, were severally committed, and reported without Vcnta to house.—Adj.mrned. e TH." " 4 . 0 3 .1 e i0 N U P T 72 14 901VOM debtors bill was read thine time and passed. CRIMINAL L.A./IL—The Marquis Oa LANSDOWNE rose on the second reading of the bill to unseal the law applicable to stealing in dwelling houses. The aisle Of privately stealing iu the dwelling house was punislied, ea the law stood, with death. That penalty lan comae( to riblic opinion; it wait considered too severe, and in several instances persons had neglected to pro. recute because they knew (sow:talon must lead to capital punish ment. The noble inavrtis (preluded his argument in support of the bll by moving the second reading. The 1(11111 CHANCEI.I,OII expressed an opinion adverse to the bill. Ills lordship knew how dangerous it was to alter the criminal laws. Interne cases of stealing in the deviling house, no person amid say the puni,brient ,aiglit not to be death. The Earl of CARNAIIVO supported the hill. Viscount SIDMOiITII s a id it would be unwise to decrease the rigototu character of the law. The effect of capital punislunent in a recent case of street robbery had lessened that ofrence so much, that the judges at the old bailey sessions had trial very few prosecutions of that description. He did not dare pass the bills upon the table. Ile considered diem most injurious to the interests of the community. The Marquis of LA NSINOVN E replied. The house then divided—For the second reading 37—Against ' it 27—Nlojurity 10. The bull was accordingly hat. 'flee bill applicable to canals and navigable rivers shared the same fate.—Atkio4uned. FRIDAY, JUNE 22. The Earl of Wilton, second sun of Earl Grosvenor, claimant of that random in right of his grand/411,yr ma tGrna, was introduced by Ids lather E irl GI °Devisor, due! the Earl of Bridgewater. His Lordship tools lie oaths and his seat. A person from the commissioners of the Military Canal presented an account of the tolls and rates received up to 1820.—The repot t was pail on the table. "I'lle vagrant laws till an e nt through a committee, and was reported. bills on the table were forwarded a stage, and the house adjourned 1111 to-morrow, when the royal assent will be give!' to several public and private bills. MOUSE Of COMMONS. MoIWAY, JUNE 18. A petition from Yarmouth was presented against the Extra Post bill Mr. GOOCH presented a report from the Agricultural committee, whichwas ordered to lie on the table, and to he printed. TOBACCO Mlles.—On the motion that the Tobacco Duties' bill be reed a second time, Lard BELGRAVE protested against the bill. Mr. LUSHINGTON desited that the bill should be read a second time to-day, that the house might see what • it really %yd. , : and he should then propose that it be com mitted on FS iday. Sir F. litjltDET'r moved, as an amendment, that the bill be read a second time this day six months He was against any extension of the odium power of the Excise. Mr. . SMITH spoke to the same effect ; however, lie was not particularly against a dilly on tobacco; but would it be lielievs d, that what was worth aud what coat isel. was taxed to the amount of 4s. i•--( Hear.) Mr. HORHOUsE spoke ul the vexations character of the bill. lie knew ode person who had sold a million ;minds of tobacco in pennyworths. He should support the tookdolinent of lies worthy colleague. Sir R. WILSON asked whether the right hon. gentleman opposite, in the event of the bill being allowed to go into a committee , would then permit the bill to amid over till next sessi The gallery was cleared for a division,as Sir F. Burdett would nut withdraw hisamendisient unless Mr. Lushington would pledge I • self to withdraw the bill for the present session. The members were—Ayes, 75—Noes, 23—Ma• jority in favorer of the hill, fi. Mr. LOCKHAR I' presented a petition from a merchant of London, regarding the employment of British and Fu • reign Shipping. LONDON BRIDGE..--Mr. 11. SUMNER asked, in the event oleo) measures being adopted for the buililiog of a new bridge, wheie London-bridge now existed, it due notice would he given ? 111 r. Aldermen N'00 , 1) said, lie hoped all proper Polices would he given. The bridge 'night be reoitat, he was persuaded, without any new impost being imposed on the public. AuItICuIAVRAL HORSE Tax.—Mr.CIIRWEN moved, that the house go into a committee on the Aericiatiti al Horse 'lax Repeal bill. He was glad to learn that the ministees did not intend to continue their opposition to the hill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that altl gum he tell bound to obey th.., decision that haul been coon, to by tla, house, he mill seabird his former opi, ' Mr. 11l RCII asked whether any new tax was to lac iin• posed, instead of the tax now to be repealeit. Loud LONDONDERRY said it would be fallacious to hull uui to the country that this repeal would afford any eliectual rebel'. It %solidi, however, he proof of the sync path, of the 'douse with the sittiation of the country, that the liolise del feel with the country; but as 10 any bather hoidens, lie was prepai ea to say that the repeal would be unaccompanied by the inwosit of any fresh hurtle a. Mr. BARING expressed a hope that those who had really Bern relieved would not twee:atter come forward Awl say llott it was of no advantage. defeat that the Chancellor of the Etelseivier had sustained resettled fr his flourishing description of the finances, talking about 1,00(1,0001. of sinking fund that eiu wbieir existed. The tate had awaited bum that sometimes betel those who talked much of their wealth—the) were sometimes al tacked by thieves its the night.—k Lund laughter.) Mr. S WOR'PLEY said, had lie lseeli in the house he should have supported the motion fur the repeal. Los d MILTON trusted it could nut liraeatter be said that the landed into est was 11114 in that house ; but lie uusud that it would be deemed right to show the inaulifietni nig interests that their wel faie was loot neglected. Ile hoped that HMO) ha would met elnlost. before 'thing would be dune if. protect 'hose nianufacturilig interests, as well as all the interests nl the eumitiy, wined t 'raid may be dune by ecUlledily.— (Cheers.) 111 r. Goocil 'tonight the noble laid was Waaelinff, as usual, between the agricuil tin al and the manufacturing interests ; lie leatill) hoe* lion to bestow his sweets. Alter some Wilbur Codivra cal ttttt it was agreed to • pour Ilie flitting st...:c 1,1 the bill till XV eillieSday next. Dime us the motion that the repo' ~~~ , .. on the subject of an increase to the Duke of Clarence's income of 6,0001 a r, and of payiug up arrears umminting to IS. brotigiN aih 0V.2 il hi t the grant ajtorthswi at it t this day three moiMie. The lonise divided on the original motion for ging lip the report. The uumben were—Ayes, 14k—Noes, —‘iajority, 126. The report a as then bronchi up and rend. On the Is nlu,iun that there be an addition of 6,0031. a year to al, isseu:no of the Doke of Clarence, .fir. lIU %I spoke against it, mid concluded with pro posim.l, that the sum be reduced to 3,5001. Mr. MOORE supported the propriety of such reduc tion, olva tying, that all the royal family were already pros ided 'must eleuantl) anal liberally. After sumo remarks Hum Mr. Cali:ran, Mr. Creevey, Ar a tlw bowie divided is, Mt. Iltime's amendment—For the amendment, Su—Fur the original motims, Oil the question for ;ranting the 18,0101. at rears, Mr. BEitNAL objected to that grant as not coming regularly before aw house. In the present stale of the coml. ry, lie could not consent to give the arrears, altliongls he did trot oppose 111:• annual allowance to the royal Duke. Lord LONDONDERRY said, the objections or t h e hon. member et iginated in the esommity of late. 'rite 18,0001. now proposed to be paid to Isis royal liighliess could not be considei ed as arrears, but us a vote founded on a giaut formerly nuide by parliament. His royal Mi.:linos, note itlistandhig all his economy, found it im possible io live • ituin the bounds of his income as it stood at present. Ile had wished and endeavoured to do so; Ma finding it impossible, it was bill equitable that the house should step in and save his royal highness from suf fering inconvenience by his endeavours to save the public pose. Mr. Curwen and Mr. R. Williams also objected to the vote. . _ After some further discussion, the house divided on Mr. Bernal's amendment to omit the arrears—For the amend ment, St—For granting the strews, 11I—Majority iii favour of the motion, 50. The house then proceedial to resolve it s elf into a com mittee of supply, and to discuss the f t ish estimates. Mr. C. GRANT moved that the sum of 10,0001. be granted her the bullpen t of the society fur promoting edte catinu among the poor in, Ireland. Mr. BECIIEit expressed his wish that the money now called for ought to be devoted for the education of the poor, without distinction of sect. Mr. C. GLIANT cautioned the home not to attach to persons who were acting gratuitously, conditions which it was trite impossible that they should ever accept. Sir J. NEWPORT expressed himself strongly in fa vour of extending the aid of the legislature to the gra tuitmis exertions of such individuals as were anxious to diffuse the blessings of education among the poorer classes of Ireland. Ile likewise. remarked, that wherever any attempt had been made to inter tare in the matters of re ligion, it hail invariably counteracted the attempt to. promote the cause of education, in Ireland. Mr. HUME observed, that though there were many societies in Ireland whose object was to give education te the poorer orders of the Proirstantpopulation, there was uoue histitioted for the education of the lower orders of the CAtIII,IIICII. This society was therefore established with a view, not of promoting education amongst the members of every sect. The principles, however, on which it had been 01 iginally established, had nut been strictly ohserved; for it determined not to give assistance to any school in which the Bible without text or commeut was loot read. Now that determinatnen amounted to is virtual exclusion of the Catholics from the benefit to be derived from tire funds of this institution. After a few remarks from Mr. Grattan, Cut. Barry, and Mr. livelier, the question was then put, anti the rewlutiuu carried. Dlr. C. GRANT proposed a vote of 7,0091. for the Dub lin soclet3 hick was agreed to. The next iesolution Was 0,25a1, fur building churches and glebe houses. hir J. N EW PORT maintained that the first fruits' fund, if properly administered and collected, aas sufficient for the ifaupose ni this resat utioa. In the ensuing session, he again gas so notice, that he would move for a committee on the subject. it might to amosint to 2 , ',00(11. a )ear, in straii oi teutatui:ig as it Was AS tar back as the reign of Elizanetit. Mr. lIU %IF. expressed his intention to divide the coin suttee on this grant, as he thought it wholly unnecessary alter the list VIRC. Alter a few words fun's Mr. S. Rice, Col. Barry, and %Ir. C. Grant, the constisistite divided—For the resolution,. 4S—Against it, I 1-31ajttrisy, 97. The next resobitit,O W. 11, 101. fur enlarging and widening the streets or Dubli n . The resolution was AK' cell to. A resolution of 2,5e1.d. for the farming society of Ire land was passed without remark. Mr. C. GRANT having moved TSB. for certain public officers in Ireland for making out retinas to pai batmen!, Mr.IIUM ohji civil to the pementles of the grant, alleging that these " certain public ollicess" were already paid considerable salaries. Mr. C. itANT mentioned the amount of the emolu ments of sus es al. Sir J. MP( litT resisted the vote on the ground that the time of these officers was the time of the public, and that they ought to uss.ke out these Itutriis in Logien(' without 411) 4111141011311 remuneration. Toe Chariesllur in the Escherprer supported the grant, and Mr. Ilmikes opposed it. IiUME moved that the Chairman report progress. Mr. IiCSKISSON recommended that tae vote should be a stlidra , a it, as be thought it objectionable in principle. Mr. Grant consented to withdraw it, and Mr. hi slid not pet slit tit his motion that the ChallMall report progress. The next resolution was 14,0001. for the Irish Board of %Vol Ls. Mr. BUMF. 'rutin - ed sonic explanation regarding the office of inspector of civil Mr. C. GRANT said that his duties regard , . d buildings its and near Dustlitt. I f he resolution was then carried. T ste secretary's 4,theu tt as alit eeti to. Mr. F. PA L.AI Elt said it was quite impossible at that late hour to pun:toed lot ther 'unit these estimates. It was near one u chick, and the popes' attention could nut pos sibly be paid to them at such an hour.