The National Register. — London, England, 1821-08-26 00:00:00

at him, not known tg it would be right to speak. A sol dier asked hint whin he meant by it, and he replied, " That is the man who aimed and fired at the man at Cumberland G rte" A gentleman in white trowsers (lie believed Mr. Birtaie) came up, and asked him what he had to say abou , . it? Wituess answered he had said all he had to say, won which Mr. Birnie said be wished hint to repeat i't, as he was a Magistrate, and he did so. Mr. Birme thin desired him to go and put his hand on the horses hcad, and he did so. lie was positively sure that officer w.ts the same he saw fire near Cumberlaud Gate. He was dressed the same, but he knew hint also by his face. When witness pointed at him he t tut white, and vrhen he touched the horse's head he turned red and lambed out. 'rite soldiers asked him if he would go round again, an I he declined, saying he was quite satisfied, Arad 40 not wish to go round any snore. I soldiers c,anetdarly wished him to go round a second tune. They went very fast, so that he could not keep up with them. Mr. Dean was recalled.—He had inspected the regi ment. He saw the officers ansl soldiers, but they were wrapped up its their cloaks, and their caps drawn over their eyes in such a manner that he found it impossible to identify any one Man. C. Sprint recalled.—He inspected the regiment, and on the left hand side its the centre lie saw two officers, within ten or twelve 11101 of each other. Ile could not tell which of these two was the man who tired at (iin berland Gate, but he was sure one of them was. They were uncommonly alike. \t'hen he arrived at Me second officer he thought it must be the first one, who had re moved himself from his place before him again. lle was about to say the second one was the man, and he saw hint turn pale, and his lips quivered. When he was about to say, " you are the Mall, " he saw the officers, and he then felt a doubt whether he was right or not, and would not speak. By Mr. Waitinnan.—He saw a gentleman get out of a gig this. morning, and go into the barracks in plain clothes.—The moment he saw him, he exclaimed " that is the man who shot Oney," and the gentleman turned round and looked at him, but said siothiug. Witness believes lie most have heard him. A warns discussion here arose upon the obstructions which, it was said,liad been offered to the course of justice, and Mr. Waithinan suggestod that the Adjutant should be summoned to produce the MOM' The Foreman spoke in strong tennis of the obstructions which they had met with, and expressed an Opinion that the whole of the proceedings at the barracks were a farce . a mere trick, to thwart them in their endeavours to arrive at the truth. He theiefore would move " that the Ad. jutanu be summoned to produce the roastar orderly book, with the names of officers and men employed on the 14th of August, and their difli.oent stations on that day."— This motion was carried, and a summons was issued. A discussion tuuk place as to whether Mr. Birnie and Mr. S‘afford should be summoned or not. It was finally decided that those gentlemen should be summoned this day. 'The Court then adjourned until two o'clock the fol lowing day, at the New Inn, in, the Edgware-road. FIFTH DAY.) On IVccluesday at two o'clock the Coroner's Jury met pursuant to adjournment at the New Inn, in the Edg ware-road. Thomas Emans, Lieutenant and Adjutant of the Ist regiment of life-guards, was then called. Witness knows nothing witching or concerning the death of the deceased. He had brought the roaster and orderly books of the regiment, of the 14th and 2lst of the present month.— He had no objection to produce these books. They did not contain the different stations of the different detach ments out on the I4th of August. A Juryman.—Have you any docutnent with the names of the officers and men on duty with the Queen funeral on that day ? Witness—l have they are in the roaster. It also coutains lthe order Irons Sir Robert Baker, for the at tendance of troops to assist hitu at Kensington on that day? A Juryman.---Are the names there ?—Yes. How many officers and men were there 3—Fifty-six men, a Captain, and two subalterns. Witness turned out that number from the barracks, and they went to join Sir Robert Baker. The officers of this detachment were Captain Oakes, Lieutenants George Storey, and Hall. A Juryman asked if he was present at the inspection of the regiment yesterday ? Ile said lie was, and that he went round with the witnesses. There were many more officers then present than were oil duty on the 14th of August. Some 01 the witnesses pointed out some officers, and their names were taken down by the magistrates, and handed over to the commanding officer. A Juryman asked the witness whether any of the offi cers who woe pointed out were on duty at the funeral on the 14th. The witness objected to answer the question with the impression, as he stated, that he would be obliged to mention the names of the officers publicly, amid he did not feel authorized to do so without the leave of the commanding officer. Ile finally, however, answered in the affirmative. He went un to state, that the officers all kept their stations, and never removed their stations for a moment. Mr. Waithman.4 sin going to ask you a question upon a subject which perhaps you are not actin tinted with, hut it is very necessary you should be. Do you know that several of the Jury were insulted by the sol diers, and that one wa, even struck in the mont:i by one of I hem ? Winn ss.-1 Ltiow nothing of it, and I hope no such think took p;..e.e. Mr. l yaitionati requested that the gentleman who was a, tilted would state the circumstances of the assault. Mr. Blakey (a Julynian; stated, that he was the person assaulted. He went, lii pursuance of what he conceived to be his duty, with his btother jurors, to reqw , :,t ad mission, and while at the door Mt officer in plain clothes id the solders " turn those fellows out," upon which • tti 'Nes .3 6 % 114 ‘ THE NATIONAL REGISTER one soldier struck him on the shoulder, and another hit him a blow' in the mouth. He conceived that this was a gross insult offered to a jdry assembled 03 perform a very solemn and important shiny, and it ought to be re presented to die Ailjolant's superiors, and he hoped he would take upon IiIIIISCII to do it. He mentioned it in the hope that that gentleman would convey it to the commanding officer. The Adjutant said, it would be better for the jury to make a representation upon the subj.xt to the proper quarter themselves. Mr. Spicer (another juryinan).—l think that we 'rave l nothing to do with that subject here; and I will add, that whatever insults we met with we brought upon ourselves, by nut making a proper application on Mon day night fur admission. I.lle Foreman warmly observed, lie was surprised to hear such an observation. TI:: worthy gentletnan diet. asked the Adjutant if he knew of any di:guise being adopted by any of the officers at the inspection. Adjutant.—No. 1 wAI venture to say no such dis honourable prl.ctice was adopted. I did not see any man laugh at the persons who viewed the regiment.— The men went out on the i.tth, under the orders of the civil power. I cautioned them of that fact. It is the constant rule to inform the men, when they go out tinder the civil power, to act by die direction of that power, and by its orders alone. Richard 'Ernie, Esq. the magistrate, was then sworn. Ile would stale what he presumed he was brought here to state, namely, what he saw yesterday at the 'barracks at Knightsbaidge. He received instructions from the Under Secretary of State to attend there at eleven o'clock, and to see that the witnesses admitted there by tickets from the coroner, and Mr. Higgs (the coroner on the other inquest). had free access to examine' the officers 'and soldiers to answer the ends of public justice: 'Flit order was countermanded in the course of the morning by another letter, stating, that it would he inconvenient for the regiment to he drawn out before two. He went there a little before two, accompanied by Mr. Raynsford, a magistrate or Queen's -square. He then found, from a gentleman, who was called the Silver Stick, he believed Col. Hull, that the regiment was not to be drawn out until further orders were received from the Commander in Chief, and that was the sole C3115C of delay, he assured the coroner. They waited very dis igreeably until half-, past lout o'clock; at which time Sir Henry Torrens, the Adjutant General,arrivctl. who expressed his surprise that no report had been made, and said he thought there must be 53111 C mistake. A conversation took place, and Sir H. Torrens said the delay had taken place in consequence of his not receiving an answer 'from the Coroner. The men were then ordered out. The commanding officer assured him that the officers and men were drawn out in the same accoutrements and on the same horses as on the 14111. He was called Col. Cavendish. Observing some of the men cloaked, he asked the Colonel the reason, and he said they were men who were cloaked on the 14th. He would now explain why some witnesses were, not admitted. It was that the tickets they brought had . not thenatoe entered. None were refused that he knew of after their names were inserted. He would now state the manner in winch the inspection took place. The witnesses were placed in a room together, and a com plaint being made to thin by one of them of the heat,„ he procured them a larger and cooler place, where they , could walk about. When the regiment was drawn up,; they were called out one by one. The soldiers were/ . formed into two ranks, in what they termed " open: order ;" and lie (witness) accompanied diem, and so did' Mr. Raynsford. There was no other magistrate present. He had seen something in the newspapers, about a joke of the witnesses having been told to keep their eyes to • the right. He would explain that. When they were going along the line, he saw some of them looking dif ferent ways, and he advised them to look first at one line throughout, and then the other, and they would not miss any. • Two or three of the witnesses wished to take a second examination, but the commanding officer said that was contrary to his instructions • but witness and Mr. Ravens ford insisted upon it, and instructions; Adjutant General was of their opinion, and it was complied with. The witnesses, whenever they pointed at, or identified any person, stopped, and the commanding officer directed the Ad jutant to take down the name of the person so identified, which he believed was done. Alter the witnesses had they went away. Witness asked the commanding officer, in the presence of all the witnesses, if every man and every officer who was on duty on the 14th of August was now present and in the same order, and mounted on the same horse as on that day, and he was answered that they were, with the exception of one, who was in the hospital—he was a private. - • By Jurymen.—He did not take the names of thc per sons identified down, for he thought he would be in truding upon the province of the gentlemen of the Jury If he had asked the names, the answers would not have been eVidence, for how could he tell ,that they would answer truly ; they might give a wrong name. The Adjutant was ordered to take the names, and he sup posed he did so, or he would be answerable for his con duct. Two of the witnesses fixed upon one officer. Mr. Stafford thechief clerk was present, he believed, for the purpose of taking down the names of the witnesses, and any observations they might make. lie (Mr. Mune) and the other magistrate were there as he understood expressly to protect the witnesses, that they might not consider themselves (miler military controls I. The boy Alexander (as witness was told) fixed upon Lieutenant Gore. A Juryman asked Mr. Birnie, if the soldiers laughed 3t all Mr. Birnie.—Yes, there was some sneering, I be lieve, as there always will be on such occasions. The worthy Magistrate then departed , and at the re que:d of the Jury, said hi. would send Mr. Stafford word that his presence was rviptired here, and he had no doubt he would conic immediately. If the Jury should roluire any further explauatian from him (Mr, B.) he would be happy to attend them at ten minutes' notiee. Mr. Waithman intimated that he had heard there was a person in waiting who could prove that one of the Life Guards was at his house the whole of Tuesday.— He (Mr. W.) had no wish to call him, but the Jury might ii they pleased. witness was then called. He said his name was Thomas Austin, and that he lived at No. 6, Dorset. street, Portman-square. All he knew was, that on Tues day, he saw a soldier who said he belongs,l to the first regiment of Life Guards, and that lie was on duty at Kensington on the day of the funeral. This man was drioltiog in his house the whole day, and could nos therefore be present at the inspection on Tuesday,— 'Witness could not tell the mait's name, nor where he was to be found. lie had merely came here to state this circumstance, because he thought it was his duty to do so. ' The Foreman thanked him for his good intention; but toll him his evidence could not he received. 'l'. Cole Humbert, of the Hyde Park Hotel, Oxford ' street, (opposite Park-lane), was next called and sworn. He was a Royal Military Surveyor and Draftsman, out halt:pay& He saw a detachment of dragoons drawn up 'near Cumberland-gate, on that day. He saw an officer .commanding that detatchment. He knows that officer • personally, and he came up to witness, and requested - hfin to send for some beer for his men, who were very wet. Witness believes the Mine of that officer to be Gore. He has known him long enough to be quite cer-, lain of his person, and he is sure his name is Gore.— 'Mr. Gore was a young man, apparently about 2(1 or 21 years of age. He did not see Mr. Gore fire on that day. Witness continued.—He did not see any man bearing 'a standard cut down by the military, nor did he sec any man carried away. Ile could nut say whether such an 'occurrence could take place without his seeing it. He Aid not notice the soldiers brandishing their swords at the time the gates were shut. ' Mr. Waithman.—Were you within the barracks yes terday 3-1 was. How did you get in therel , 64 went in consequence of a summons served' upon me: I was in a room with other witnesses, hut I got permission to go outside of the door, for the sake of air. I do not know who summoned me there, or for what purpose. I was at length taken out to view the troops, and I said I had Out been exa mined, but they said that did not signify. 1 had learned from the other witnesses that 1 was brought there to swear to a man. I went up the line of troops, ammo panied by a soldier; I saw two gentlemen in coloured clothes, and one of them asked me my name and some other questions. I was hot known when I presented myself at the barracks. I told them again, whets my name was called over, that I could not swear to any man. was asked whether I could identify any officer, and I said I could not. 1 had not been sworn. I did not see Lieut. Gore there, upon tny oath I did not. 1 did not tee the whole of the troops, our did I look at those I did see partienlarly, because I underan.od 1 was brought there to swear, if 1 could, to the officer who shot the man, amid as 1 could not do that 1 did not think it neces sary to look at them. I did not see any officer at Cum berland Gate that 1 knew besides Mr. Gore. 1 do not know any of the magistrates. 1 did not see more than one soldier with his sword its a menacing attitude at Cumberland Gate, and I believe that was more to frighten the people than any thing else. I did not hear the Riot Act read. Mr. Waithman.—Have you not said to some person. within these three hours, " What! does Mr. Hanson (the Guards solicitor) want me again ? 1 had enough of it yesterday-1 had six hours at it." NVitness.-1 believe I did say something of that kind. but 1 cannot say that it was Mr. Henson's name I mentioned. ;Marcus Calder, porter at the Hyde Park Hotel, was next called.—He proved the porter being ordered for the soldiers, and that he took it to them ; there were 13 pints, a pint to each man. He saw a " terrible sight" of peo ple assembled at Cumberland Gale. He went up stairs at the Hotel, and looked from one of the windows, and the first thing he saw was the horse soldiers driving fu riously among the people with drawn swords. One of them in particular rode among the people, and tried to trample them down. At the same time the people were throwing bricks at the soldiers. Then he went away from the window, " that he might not see the people cut down with their swords." In a minute or two alter he heard firing, and he went again to the window, anti saw a man carried past in a lifeless state. Ile then ran down stairs into the room where his master's son was, and de sired him to keep his head in lest lie should be shot. He went again to his former window, and saw the soldiers close by the Turnpike, and, as near as he could judge, they had formed themselves into a square, and were tiring in different directions. The hearse and procession came into Oxford-street front Cumberland Gate just about the time that the soldiers were riding on the pavement among the people. Some men at that time laid hold of the horses' heads, as if to get them down Oxford-street, and at the same instant a man, with colours in his hand, was knocked down. lie saw no bricks thrown at the time of the tiring. The procession at length moved on, and the people were driving away in various directions. His master was looking out of the window at the same time that he was; he saw him. He did not see any peace officers expostulating with the people or the troops. .1 he officer mentioned his name when he came to order the beer. His name was Gore. By the Foremati.—ll.: had not had any particular conversation with his master's son upon this business since the 14th, and if he had it world be of nu use, for no mail 00 cairn could induce into to give a wrong statement. Foreman —You mistake me; I did not mean that. By Mr. Henson.—lle did not see many bricks thrown. Re was not constantly at the whitlow. Ile saw a soldier down below his horse, but whether he was struck m not he could not tell. He thinks, if his eyes did not de ceive bun, it was one of the Blues. lie saw sense of the