The National Register. — London, England, 1821-06-17 00:00:00

186 31itiperial aaaritailtent. Hou,Lor LORDS. WEDNEsIiAY. JUNE 13. Sir .1. MACINTOSII and tev.:ral members from the Commons brought up the inivately stealing bill, also the bill to prevent robberies on navigable rivers and canals, which were read the first time. On the motion of Lord SI nmourit, the house went into a committee on the bill to regulate the court of king's bench and common picas in Ireland. The Earl of DONOUG II MORE rose in the said committee, and again expressed his opposititn to the bill. Lord SIDMOUTH said, the passing of the bill would be hailed with jay and gratitude in Ireland. The Earl of I.l:lEltlCii was convinced that the kill would be emitiderul a blessing. The people of Ireland, man to man, would be fur this bill, because they had sanartcil under eztortion and oppression during a considerable. number of years. The LORD CHANC ELL( llt stated his opinion that the duties could not be so well performed when salaries were paid as when tees were paid; at the same time he had no objection to give the system proposed in the bill a trial. The bill finally passed through the committee, and was reported. After sonic further routine business, the house adjourned. THUItaILIVY, JUNE I I. Lord HOUS presented a petition from the Landholders of Stitiolk, complaining of a..ricnlttiral distress. The pe tition wa s read and laid on the table. 'fie Rev. Mr. N kv PrrerioN—Lord KING said, lie lard in his hand a petition of considerable importance to the Clergy, as it effected die rights of the great body of citrates. The petitioner complained, that having been presented to the rectory of 131atlierwick, in the county of Northampton. Ire found it necessary to apply to the bishop of Petei borongli, the diucesiau, for a licence to do the diify. Refine lie could obtain the said licence lie *as called upon to answer b 7 doctrinal questions propounded by the right reverend diocesian. Refusing to answer the questions he was rejected, and refused a licence. lie then applied to the Arelihishap of Canterbury, %vim declared the right of the bishop of Peterborough to examine and require answers to the questions proposed. The petitioner bad then no right at law, and was obliged to apply to this House, praying their lordships to investigate these 157 questions, as being unconstitutional. The nolile lord said Inc understood the 57 questions were put fur the oor pose of ascertaining the religious doctrines of candidates for coracles, not their ability to discharge the duty. It most be obvious that evi I y clergyman proved his ortho• dux) , by aubscribing to the thirty -nine &sticks of faith ; yet the right reverend prelate of Peterborough said, unless you answer my S 7 questions, you shall not enter my diocese. It was in the opinion of the noble lord a mockery to tell the unfortunate petitioner lie was obliged to submit to this new test, alter his real sentunents on re- had been ascertained. The great object of the Clint eh of England was to obtaiu peace, quiet, and order. Nothing could promote that object noose than contiiiiiig its members to the 39 articles of taitli. The noble fond cited the opinions of several learned divines in support of his statement, that the subscription of a clergyman to the 39 articles was sufficient qualiiication far the office of priest, and concluded by ~,,, %nig the petition be read. The petition of the Rev. iI. W. Neville was linen read, making the siatemeid which the noble lord had introduced. The Bishop of PKFERBOROLIGIi absei ed, that their loi &hips could not, consistent with the respect due to the established church, discuss the propriety of the questions the petitioner hail made the subject of com plaint, especially as those questions were prescribed l.y the forty-eiblitli canon. Su long as the canon gave the power he had exercised, the I loose would not make any alteration. No temporal authority had hitherto dictated to bishops their inOlie of examining for admission to holy orders. It was consequently unconstitutional to interfere, and the House could not entertain the opinion. The member of persons refused licences because they w ould spot answer at all, amoutited to tau. There were at that time only two candidates—one for curate, the other for holy orders, and that was the mighty matter to Set the House of Lords in motion. Lord KINCSaili, the only question was, whether the eighty-seven questions were certainly a regular set of leading questions, and the answers were the test on which the candidate was to be tried. He moved that the petition do lie on the table. Lord CALTHORL'E supported the petition. The Earl of HARRO %V BY expressed an opinion that the House could not anti .taro the subject. Earl GREY said the impression on his mind was, that the coinplai , it was well futitolcd. The questions as he tin. derSIOIRI them, were to exclude Calvinists horn the estsbw fished chinch. The Bishop of PETER BOROUG II spoke to order, and declared the IllithltlMA acre Mil, used to detect a devia tion t tile established church. and to explain the 39 a: tides according to the literal meaning. After some tin titer observations on the part of Earl Grey, the pei unto was l ejec•w I.—Adjourned FRIDAY, JUNE lb. MARQUIS CIIOLAIONDELEV ♦ND Miss. DANSR a. LOllO CLINTON.—The bowie gave judgment in this important cause, in favour of Lord Clinton, by which his Lordship s title to the immense estatui in Devon and Cornwall is confirmed.: _ The Royal assent was given to the crown lands' revenue imptovenient bill, the Irish law courts' regulation, the Irish nisi pnub regulation, the Irish rate of interest. and several private bids. The commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, the Earl of Shafte.sbury. and Earl Bathurst. Mr. iIYMOILE, from the Nicholas Bay company, presented accounts relating to that establishment. The Irish insolvent debtors: bill was read a third time and I.J Yd. SLAVE TRADE.—The I\larquis of I.ANSDONE adverted to several papers laid on the tame by a noble load some time ago, relating to the slave wade, and moved t:ie !Arne be printed for the use of the house —Ordered. The noble marquis then gave notice of his intention to submit a motion to the house on the subject of the foreign slave mule ou Wednesday next. The navigable rivers and canals' i robbery prevention bill was read the first time. The Marquis ofl.A NSIMW NE gave notice that he should move the second reading of the stealing in the daelling house punishment bill on Thursday next. On the 'widow of the EMI tit tiIIAFTESISURY, the house stijouthod to Monday. DOUSE OV COMMONS. NI:UUICSI.AY, JVNII The irollbe io the day named ton the utljourniticeit, Kw. at 11w Übtlili hoot. SIATL Sly 1.. RIPE.—Mr. C. 11. HUTCH:V...ON, in toarrisucoce of a e omnwnlrahnn which h•• 11.. d seccirt d ' l iofea:soog Lim of Vac todivootio i of the wt . “1“, y of st,d, 1111,1161 A itU.11.9411.d . VII lae. THE NATIONAL REGISTER subject of the stale of Litwin., from to-day till the 21114 inst. Mr. W. WARD, the absence of Mr. S. Wortley, posi !toned, in cun•rquruce of a like communication, the respectinguuawu the Ln latch circular, also till the 21st Mr. LUSHINGTON brouAt in the 13,000,0001. loan (from the sinking fund) hill, and a hill to empower I lie raising 29,000,0001. by exchequer bills, and the lottery bill.—Seve rally read a first time. The report of the committee respecting forfeitures of men:ma:times was presented. Mr. C. CALV Elt.T presented a petition against Mr. Scarlett's ))) r 1:1W16 . bill, perticularly that part of the bill which monied settlement. Ex pont - Arlo vOF Sit e.—Mr. LUSH IN GTON moved the third reading of the a oulleu cloths stumping regulation Mr. BARING complained of the inclination to legislate on all subjects; also of the disposition to introduce clauses at variance with the character of the bill. The bill, for instance, contained a clause to authorise the exportu t i tttt of sheep—a clause that lie had braid of quite by accident ; but the bill possibly had gone tint far for him to utter ally effectual eli"la IO:e to portions of the hill. If he stood alone, how ever, be should oppo,e the hill. Mr. LUSHIN GTON mid, the bill only explained existing arts; and that a most unfounded opposition against the butt ex tiled. Mr. 11. DIVIS said, injury might arise to Trade from this bill. This wont was peculiar to hagland, nod if it gm to France, the wool trade of Lugland might be extensively injured. Mr. F. LEWIS observed, that the fact that climate and soil niter led the growth of sheep bus indisputable ; at the same lime he was against iestrictions being imposed on the trade. Mr. LUSHINGTON had no objection to postpone the debate on the subject till to-morrow; but he repeated, that the objection to the measure wus most uufuunded. Motion postpoued till townorrow. Petitions were pret•ented from Leeds and iluusted, against Mr. Searlett's pour bill. Ex - raw Posr.—Mr. WARM . : brought forward his pro mised (ion levee( mg the proposed extra post. It witsja favourite idea with the Chancellor of the Exchequer that the plan was only au experiment; to that experinieut he had the most derided objection. lle maim tinted that the plan should nut be adopted without the strictest enquiry on the anl/ject ; and he therefore moved that a select committee on the sultiect be appointed. Agreed to after some remarks from the Chancellor of the Exchequer and Mr. Warta., and a select cuinmittee ap pointed. SUPPLY—The CH A N C ELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the house resolve itself tutu a committee of supply. Ali. CURWLN risked how 2,0001. at two several periods, making 4,0001. conlu he given to Mr. 1111c.Adain, without the co,:iiia:4llCC amid approbation of parliament. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that sui h teinunerat . ha-I been made trout votes fur the civil contingencies. Mr. HUME asked when the report of the Duke of Cla rence's grant was ii, be bruti,:ht up, as some measure was to be pi oposed to mark the sense ut certain members of that trausas.tion. The CHANCELLOR of the EX C LQULH, replied, he proposed to bring it up to.morron , when he hoped his noble friend (Lonalosiderr)) would he preto Mr. SIMMS 5 , 11 d the answer taunt Mr. ftl'Atlans was most unsatislitetory Mr. II UNIL obscived, that instead of being p:Arl out of the civil Coffin/uncle., he found the sums had been defrayed out of the post ottice revenues t another proof of the use that the ministers made of the cotelidence of that huuse. M It/CELLA nuiJ S hst I bt•TES.—The house then resolved into I he c 1111111 l litre. Mr. Alt IIUTIINOT moved the grant of 75,0001. and 40,0001. for his Majesty's household. Agreed 10. Mr. Alt BU I'll NO r then moved the grant of 15,0001. for carrying iutu effect the treaties fur the abolition of the slave trade. Mr. WA RRE remarked, that Portugal had not fairly met us on this subject. Dl ARBUTHNOT replied, that a noble friend, on a future occasion, would he able to give satisfactory explana tions as to existing tr• aties.—Grant agreed mo. Mr. AR BUTIINO r inured 17,8001. for salaries to coin missioners fur adjusting time abolitioa of the slave trade trviitt, S. A lung discussion took place on several other resolutions which, however, wear ultsmately agreed tu, and the repot t was ordered to be received tumiorroe'. On the c u mnaitte on the bank of Iteland bill, Sir .1. NEW PORT 'unposed a dame that Roman Catho lics should be to bee diieetois. A ter some Misery:olllns from C. Giant and otheilt, the liou-e divided, and the a Muse was lost. The numbers being— Against it, favour of it, 13—Majority against it, On tile otdcr of the day for the second reading of tile steam packet licence Mr. objected to the principle of the bill, and moved that the Mil he read u sceou.l tune tins day bll 1110111 11.1. Mr. LE SHIN GTO N defended the bill as one of regulati 111 l 1411 d nut us opt: itotrultiril I. twolucc.rtreituc. The house divided—Cur the amendment, 14—Ful the bill, 36—Majority, 22. The bill wits then lead a second time, and ordered to be committed. lie other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjuul filVitsDAY, Julie 14. LYGON presented a petition from Dudley, in Wor cel.t..lo.lle, agaimi Mr. Sr:sub:tea poor bill. Mr. LUSH ING FON pi...wilted a petition from Canterbury aguiust the poor relief bull. MOCK. CONSTITUIION A L ASSOCIATION.—Mr. HOB iiOUSEpaid that he had been i ;;; toted o Oh a petition float of individual whit convidered I elf eztreim ly aggrieved by the it...ociat of whtrb the house and the country had recently heard vo much. He thought that its proceedings, after what W4ll d ill thr petition, would not Hilly merit but receive the dizapprolial of all memhel of par. ttttt .i.t, and even of of the but...critics . % The twlition nos I, ou t a person of the Dame of Kin , z, w hove CHMe hall indeed been elated iii some of the public jesuraulo, and against whom tin indictment had been preferred by thin consruut intuit association, etipported httore the gi.tial jury by the evidence of only nee wtnceft, li. ratiti Horton The petitioner stated the ease Orton, had w idled to purchase a pamphlet, plciciiiiing not to know the tissue the printer and pabiol.ar, %Mk to h iii, on the inuratug of Unit day au indictment for publishiug such pamphlet had been preferred against Mr. .Dolby, the publisher. The petitioner urged, that this boy, Ortuu, had been guilty of something very like perjury, and he therefore prayed the house to adopt means to enable him to get the names of the self styled committee of the self dityled constitutional association. The case was one of very great hardship. The society were invisible and unknown; they were irresponsible; and they might keep indictments hanging over the heads of these pamphlet sellers. The society for the suppression of vice expended 1701. in the prosecution of Davison; Isar much then might it cost per. sons to prepare themselves for defence ! They might thus be ruined without ever being brought to trial.—This society he contended, was of most pernicious tendency. The Court of King's Bench had not pronounced any opinion as to the legality of the sin iety ; they could not express any such opinion; on Mr. Bluckhurite's arguments the court had promulgated no such sentiment. But the society bad cone. menced prosecutions where the crown's law.uflicers had cuu sidered that it aus nut prudent to prefer indictments ur informetions; amongst other matters they had commenced prosecutions against papers, for publishing the electors of Westiniustei's address to Sir F. Burdett. which he (Mr. II.) signed. They might us well have proveuted him, and he wished to God they had done so; but iustead of that they pi ',seemed some newspapers, while the society sent him some circutars, and solicited his subscription ! He was con cetned that the ladies and gentlemen, whose names were fuuud amongst the subscribers, should have so far forgotten their duty to the country. for they could not have desired to divide society into two classes; but he was more particularly concerned to timid, amongst the subscribers, the mane of the Duke of Welitnetim, to whose means the nation had so liberally subscribed.—reditiuti read and ordered to be printed. SCOTCIII Ilencrs.—Lord A. HAMILTON presented time report of the Scotch burghs' committee. In doing so, he could not lose the opportueity of stating that lie did not concur in this report—that it did not express his sentiments ; Ids main complaint, however a as, that the Cl.llllllllllCe 111111 not fully and fairly performed the duties imposed on them by the house—tiny had nut collect, d lull and ample evidence such as was requisite lot the Men motion of the house.—lie concluded with moving, that the report he lead. Lord BINNING expressed his astonishment nt what had (peen from the noble lord. As to the report, if it were carried into effect, lie thought all the evils that ought to be complained of would be remedied. Mr. ABERCROMBIE concurred in the opinion that had fallen from his noble friend (Lord Hamilton) near hies, Sir It. FERGUSON obeerved, that the committee were chiefly composed of the friends of ministers—of gentlemen who sheaved t heir consistency in supporting abuses wherever they acre found. Mr. K. DOEGLAS defended the committee. He thought, if the recommendations of the report were adopted, the evils complained of would be remedied. IIU ME said, Use complaints were against the prioeiple of self-election, &c. which led to the waste of money, and and yet this committee agreed, contrary to the compiniuts of all the petitioners, that such principle was out the cause of the irregularities. They decided for the abuses ; the worse they were the closer they stuck to them. Report read and ordered to be printed. The woollen cloths' stamping bill was read a third time amid passed. Lord MILTON asked, seeing the chairman in his place, when the house was to expect any report from the commit tee on agriculture ? Mr. GOOCH replied, that the report was not yet ready s that it would he prepared as sous as possible, amid presented alter it was ready. Sir. FREEMANTLE now held in his hand a bill for the better regulation of the water works in the metropolis; it was prepared and brought in pursuant to the recommendation of the committee un this subject. He concluded with viug fur leave to bring in a bill for the better regulation of water companies, Stc. Mi. HUM E should out oppose the bill now sow. Motion agreed to. SCARLETT moved, that the further consideration of the report of the pour relief bill be postponed and Wednes day next. That was the first open day, and lie understood that many hum. members were anxious to express their senti meats oil the bill.—Nlotion agreed to. Mr. FREEMANTLE thy', brought in the water winks' bill. Read a first Hine, and ordered to be read a second time this day fortnight, lind to be printed. Mr. HUME anti rose to move far the production of the evideoce, &e. taken before the water %yolks committee, Its repot t s mid that the companies had violated the charters and principles of which they had received the sanction of par liament, and yet a bill was brought in to strengthen and eolitiun those companies. Ile concluded with moving, that the said evidence be laid before the house. AGILICULT•ItE.—Mr. CUR W EN then bruught forward his 'notion fur leave to bring iu a bill to repeal time dui) uu agricultural horses Mr. GOGOCH seconded the motion. Mr. DA VEN PORT spoke in support of the motion. Ni. GOK 1. declared that it was quite dm lightful to him to Mar oil tins occasion the language which was lielit by the gents. opposite; and the compliment paid by the chairman of the agricultural committee to the lion. member fur Aber demo, must be, no doubt, highly gram itying to him. Fur (Out sell, lie was ire old member of that house ; and lie could tak upon Wiese!, to say that since he first cattle into it, he dad nut reinvinher any geotleinan In whom the country watt am 1111161 indebted as to his hon. friend (Mr. Hume) whose ex ert had been as iineortant as they were u n remitting— Bat lie was perfectly charmed with the language of the hon. isiendar for eiuthilk. That lion. gent. aho had fur so many years 'slimily supported his Majesty's ministers—whim had stood by them imposing every tax during that period, and in passing evm•ry hill brought in by them—was now fur repeal ing the agi multural horse duty. (Ilear.) Sir G. BURRELL also spoke in approbation of the neces sity of agreeing to the bill. Mr. BARING spoke aeainst the bill, as may proposing a small reduction. The agriculturists had experienced great beiwtit•, a hile theirsuppoiters had voted away roach money. Time CHANCELLOR of the MICH EQU Lk opposed the repeal of this tax, which les contended did not press so heavily on the firmer that the repeal of it would at all re lieve time egricultural interest. He cuncludi ml by moving, as ;.n Amendment, ter_ previous gum blinll. Mr. II USKISSON contended that the financial system of i the country week! be broken down, if the proposii loos of g e ntlemen opposite were once adopted. Otte gentleman sweated ui mepeal the malt tax—another tare wool tax-- until her the salt tax—nnotlwr the window lax. The evil or thus byt..i.l of getieral repeal must be evident, tied them.- ° lute he should support the pi evium quoition.