The National Register. — London, England, 1822-06-09 00:00:00

178 43aritaintnt. IIOU'E OF LORDS. MONDAY, J t7N 5. • The Earl of DONO..G II MO.IE tuok die oaths and his seat as Vise wit I! etch anon. Pe.mtnis ikeeinst the Catholic Peers' Bill were presented ftom Bath, sat inn, Witte, Leieesterthire, and the Clergy of Killala. Petitions complainin , ors agricultural distress were presented from Norfolk, Suliillic,"Cirencester, and Kent. Petitions, praying for a revision of the criminal code, were presented nom Wellington. Bralmin, Maidstone, and Fiume, treuinersetshire.) The above petitions were laid on the table. The Kohut LIMERICK moved there consideration of Doye's Divince Bill. Atter oitue conversation upon the subject of securing ;0001. stock w lady Vovle, which she received trout an aunt. The LORD 211 AN CIS'. LOR imiulated that he should secure the interest which that lady ought to have, when the bill is read the third time. The report was then received. r. Jenner, front the eounnibsioners fur building new churches, yresesited an account of their charges and expellees, incurred w i t hin g i ve n ( 14 16 —The House then adjourned. TUESDAY, JUNI. Sir James Graham, and other members from the Commons, Li aught up the Greenwich Chinch Bill, the ary .le-botte winch awl Light Bull, and several others. which were read the tro. time. Tile Carl of HAREWOOD presented a petition from New - Ci•lie, against the Roman Catkolic Peers' Bill. Load eIDNIOUT II presented a shinier petition. leer sC I: I ELIO presented a petition trout the Hundred of Greeultoe, in Norfolk, complaining of agricultural distress, and preying fur parliamentary reform. Tee petition complained, among otter strong expneelons, die following A large mini. tarp force is kept up, with no other object truth to suppress the rjghte ot the people. and destroy the constitution." The LORD CIiA.NCELL 9 it cone lathed of the indecent manner in which the petition was worded, and observed, that the only way to make a petition inefficacious. was to put in it trims disrespectful to the House. It was not possible hie Lords could receive the petition just presented, and the noble and leamod Lord moved that it be rejected. Lead SUFI 'ELI) concurred in the observations made by the Lead On/steelier, so far us related to the respect which was due to the House ; but said, so long as he had a seat in Perliament, he should present petitions which did not appear to convey any intentional indecorum. The petitioners had perhaps been led by their ticelings to address improper language to die House, but it did hot strike him that any disrespect was intended. The pen. ben was 'ejected. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition from two poi sons re.i.iug at Dorking, on the subject ot it new inven • tion in the tanning of hides . . The petition was bud ou the table. The House adjourned. wynXESDAY, JUNE B. Petitions against die Catholic Peers' Bill were presented from the clergy of iiereiurd, and the ovedulders and unnibitaats of Peckham. Gen. CASGOINE, and other members (rem the Commons, brought tti• a private bill, which was read tree find time. Au accoutit of the number of beast, and sheep sold in Smith field market since I.;LXI, was presented aoeording to an order of the 1{1.4.13e. Lind SUFFIELD presented petitions from Somersetshire, Lewes, Gainsburuukla, Sheroorue, and other place, praying fur revision of the criminel code. The above were bore ally read, and laid on the table. The Sheriff's Dz.mte Bill was rend the second time. Lord SUFFIEL.D moved the second reading of the Vagrant 11111, which was accordingly read die second time and comitimed for r>lllllilOW. Lord DARN LEY pointed oat a part of the Bill which he con sidered oojectionable. Lard MELVILLE said, the machinery of the Bill was wholly inapplicable to the nurtheo parts ‘ll the kingdoin.—Adjaurnal. Tett: asnaY. JVJE 6. The Marquis CA:IIIIJCN presentee two petitions against the • Catholic Pears Biti; one hum Caatetbury, and the other titan Tenterden. The Bishop of St. DAVID'S presented three petitions from his Diocese, toiling the same object. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition from the congregation of the gospel clutch at Pomace. Nona We above mentioned bill. l'ltepetitions were severally read, and laid on the table. Mr. Wallace, and several members from the Commons, brought up duce bills, via. the Navigation Laws Amendment till; the Ancient Commercial Statutes Repeal bill; and the Colonial Trade hill. which were read the first time. On the motion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL. the second reading of the Navigation bill was Axed for Timidity. Lunt SUFI:IP:LI-I put drill° eanimittee on the Vagrant Lawa bill, which stood tCr this day, until toonorrote. The /mute then adjourned. FRIDAY, ICNE 7. Lord EGMONT took the oaths and his seat. Mr. Tomlins presented an account of the bullion issued by the Bank to the Treasury, from Pelt, to the ptesent time. Mr. Irving, Irvin the Ceatunis. preseeted an account of the corn imported since the opening of tl.e ports.. Lord CLIPDEN presented a petition from the spirit dialers afailkenny, complaining of illicit distillation, anti praying relief. The petition was recd and lain cm the table. Versitasfr BILL.—On the motion of Lord SUFFIELD, the fleece w; .t into a committee on the Vagrant Laws' Dim The The noble Leal, in the committee ptupotod several veinal amendments. Lord MELVILLE opposed the bill, on the ground. that it slid not apply to Scotland. The nobie Viscount stated that he sboald naive to insert a clause on the third reacting of the bill. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY reported the but to the House. The Duke of ,NEwcasTLE presented a petition from the town of Mansfield against the Catholic Peers Bill. The petition W 43 signed by 1250 persons. Tne noble Loru observed that the eyes ot rile cuunny were open on the subject of the bill before the House. With respect to his own county, he could state that hostility to the bill existed to a great degree, and was increasing; they were well aware of the evil consequences of a bill which the nation justly considered odious. He expressed a hope that it merle: be rejected by a numerous majority. It would be impel,- table for him to attend toe discussion; that circa:mu:nee gave emu great mortification, and he was induced on that account to c vices his opposition to the bill. The petition was read and laid on the table. Lord HOLLAND did not object to the petition ; he was how ever, pervaded, that whether the Noble Duke attended in Par- Brunet,' 'mon the distention of the bill ot not, die opinions of the noble Doke would be the same. He objected to a statement oracle by the nobie Hake, namely, that the bill was a violation of the contaitution. It was to cestore the ancient constitution of the country. It was to remove a hurdler' pieced on the Lords Lao years age. When he heard such a description by a noble man of tank and influence, he was obliged to say it was not a Irue description. Petitions against the Catholit Peen' Bill were also presented from Newark, Nottingluen, Toatielel, Sutton, Ashlield, tool other places. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE gave notice, that he should move the second reading ot the Nlienortughter Bill on Monday. Tue. BISALOP kETE.1501101.1411.-1-ord DACE!; pre sented a petition from the Bev. Mr. Gritushaw, rector of llunon L atimer, ru the comity of Nottiegbann complaining of the =roe THE NATIONAL REGISTER pursued by the Bishop of Peterborough, in iuttiog t no leas than 123 questions to ounlidates for holy orders. The petition stated. that toe right rev. Prelate required all curates to conform to Inn questions, or be peremptorily rejected.—A second petition was prevented roan a curate named Thorn:ll, who had been rejected complaiaing of the flannel iu which candidates for holy orders ere examined, and praying with the fire' petitioner that the sub ject may be taken up by l'arlianant. The noble Lord contended that the right rev. Prelate had gone beyond all the powers given the church, and in some instances had rejected persons who had conformal recording to the statute of Elizabeth, and his Majes ty's declaration. lie trusted the House wooed concur with hint in thinking there should be souse remedy for this grievance. The (You u, by summoning a convocation to enquire into the subject, might produce notch gaud. It was thezefore his intention, it the petition* were laid on tile table, to move an address to his Majesty, praying that an enquiry might be instituted to ascertain whether there was reason to auipo.se any innovations had orseurrol in the precepts of the church. The noble Lotd concluded by moving the petition be laid on the table. Bishop of PETERBOROUGH said, the circumstances which gave rise to this petition had been kept out of sight. lie bad exercised no more than the right given by the church. The Vol canon said, no curate should be admitted to thechurch until atter his examination by the Bishop of the diocese. Every exa miner had a tight to examine in his own way. He had only tried whether candidates mon:ascii that faith the church icquireo. —No temporal authority ion ever interfered with the right of Bishops to exercise their own discretion with regard to the este ininanou of candidates for holy orders. if their conduct in that respect was subject to the interference of temporal authority. every person rejected would consider himself entitled to send pe titions of cumplaint. With r es pect to the petitioner :ejected, he had weighed hint anti found nothing but mistificution in his answers. lie had no object but to conceal his real opinion.— The right rev. Prelate denied tile truth of the allegations in the petitions, and having answered the case at great length expressed a hope that the House would not receive them. Lord 1-101.1,ANI) began by stating, that lie disapproved of the langnage which the right rev. Prelate bad employed in speaking se the petitioner; such language was harsh in itself, and not becoming the quarter whence it proceeded. With regard to the defence of the right rev, prelate to the charge of the petition, it was the most complete instance of igarsurantia clenaki which lie had ever heard. The question to be ultimately constdcred and decided was this--whether the learned and rev. l'relate was jus tined in putting his questions. If he had that right, no man could doubt that he had a right to choose his own mode of exa mination ; but it was first necessary to determine whether the matter, substance, object, and principle of the examination were warranted by the law of theism!, and by expediency and ' prudence ? Ile (Lord Holland) would broadly assert. that it was . ambiguous and doubtful, a heihcr by law he hada right to do ass and whether lie did or did not possess it, it had ale vs bees thought most imprudent and improper in the right rev, prelate to mama it. It was not tube disputed that the petitioner had subscribed the Z articles, and that act hitherto bad been con• sidereal a sufficient test. Looking at the history of these thirty nine ;stick-, he found that they had been put into tacit present shape at the conimenceinent of the reign of Elizabeth, in the year 402; and with reference to their doctrines he must say, that from the period of the retOrmation down to the time of that gum' man Hooker, and even of dint bad man Laud, the princi ples of Anduianistn were unknown to the fhnrch of England.— Ilefore he sat down, lie would undertake to rove that one of the greatest ornaments of the Bishops' Bench had said that those 39 articles contained opinions on which a clergyman of the Church of England ought not to be examined. Vites the right rev. Pre late quite rare that such men us Parker and Sandereun could have satisiactorily answered his questions? Was he quite sure that not one of the answers would be such as Ili have induced hint, if any member of the bench of Bishops had been a candidate for holy orders in his diocese, to have rejected his claim ? it was nut to be denied that the lii articles were drawn up by persons whose opinions tended more to Calvinism than to Anninianistn ;,but as Bishop Horsley bad correctly said, they were intended to admit both within the pale of the church: they were articles of peace and union, and obscived a perfect and judicious neutrality.— A:chbiatiop Wake could net er have entitled himself to a curacy in the diocese ache right rev. Ptelate. He, one of the loftiest and ablest dignitariee of the church, must be abandoned by Mode who thought with the present Bubup of l'eterborougla, as a re• publiaan—as one who would be willing to bring his sovereign to the block, and as meriting all the reproaches and epithets which the tight rev. Prelate in his truly christian spirit had heaped upon the petitioner. Fur the sake of the interests of religion, the House was called upon to interfere and to take care that the basis of the church was as broad anti solid as duty to God and the wel . lure of the state would allow. The right rev. Prelate had done what, till this time a had not been attempted since the reformation. He strove to straighten and marrow the basis of the chute!), and the speech lie had meek showed that those who wished tor the peace teal secality of the country ought either to put an end to the practice he had begun, or at least to institute: an inquiry into . its legality and policy. Lord lALTHOUP contended that the mode of proceeding adopted by the right rev. Prelate closed all those openings in the so articles purposely left for the scruples of conscientious minds. The Earl of liA ItllOlV BY said the allegations which the pe titions contained appeared to be of the gravest character; and !coking to the high and important interests which might be in sort atloacd by them, he cal Mini; that some further enquiry ought to be lust:tonal into the matter. He was 'Ainslie:a, in regard to the chuteh and its weltarc, that to narrow the haw was not the best method of securing die supostruction. The cate gories (as we understood his lordship) of the right rev. prelate, he considered to be clearly MAC impolitic. Winle he (Lord liarrowby was disposed to vote for the reading and laying on the table of tee pennon. he was far from pledging himself to support the proposed addrese. The 1.13111) CHANCELLOR, in voting that the petitior, should lie on the table, denied not to be understood as imputing any blame to the right rev. prelate. The petition was then read, and ordered to lie on the table. Lord DACIIE then observed, he had intended to have thliowed up the last motion, by moving an address to the Crown on that subject; but from what the noule and karma! Lord en the wool. sack, and ether learned Lords had said, it was clear that he (Lord I)acre) should find much difficulty and opposition it he perse vered in his intention. He was thetelore inclined to substitute ter it a motion that this petition be related to a committee to consider the matter thereof." 'rite LORD CHANCEI.I.OII having explained the terms on which he would consent thut the peution be laid ern the table, would only say that he could not cunsent to the motion. The question being put. Tiie Earl ut LAIINARVON could not repress his astonish ment on finding, that when so important a subject as this was brought before the House, the bench of right rev. Prelates had not declared in words—no, nor by a nod—ner even by a gesture, whether they meant to a man, to sanction or condemn the conduct of their right rev. brother. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.)— On any great constitutional question, particularly a year or two ago, tiny formerly could not complain that either the noble and learned laurel on the woulsaek, or those right rev. l'relates, were slow to give the House the benefit of their wisdom and and expo. rience. But here, on a question of church policy, both were Went. Witat would the public think, when it was informed, that of the very many Pit:lutes who had conic down to the House that night, not one was to be found who had a single wind to utter upon the subject Maine their Lordships? Strangers were then excluded from below the bar. 0:1 our re-admission we Mond the numbers to be (on the queqion for referring the petition to a cuunnitte.)—contents, 19 ...ntai-contents, in.....lajoriry, 39. The 'Alarringe Act Amendment B:11 was read 4 :cc Jr.ti :tow, bud ordered to by commiited on Wednesday ntast.—Ad;,,vstrusti. HOUSE OF COMMONS. NUNDAY, JI ,I. 3. Mr.ll.Sl.3lNEltiffthented a petition from market gardeners of Batteisea field,, cumplaittini thut the repeal ut the ai,rietti. tura! horse tax, iiisteatt of being hencLeill to them, had proved a heats burtheu to them, tOr they wine how sosewied kir horses used iu trade, and paid one ghimm, it •ti:xil of 16e. 60. RS heretofore. Petition ordered to be whited. Petitions u;aiitst the i,icenbing Bih t rte ptesented from the brewers of 31am:broke, Jul turd, .Margate, the Ninth of Eit6latid, Liverpool, Bribittou, ilastiu6s, and noutituniptott. Retell eii to the Committee. The 31 or: le-bone Pat ing and Lighting Bill 1% as n a.l a third time and pi.aai d. Mr. B 1 AG brought in a Bill to amend the !‘litltllesea cnunty rate acts, as tar as the saute regarded the tit. h 6411.1, Read a brat time. The Assessed Taxes Composition Bill was ordered to be rtad a seeund time tat 'l% • Ouesos) next. Nr. C. LiLlx hLT prm.ehti.tt a petition from an indit hauled Cranford, late a publican at Little lrenchard, Nutted, complaining of having been arbitrion) tleplivcd of bis lieveae b.) the 31agistiate. Petition read, and ordered to be referred .to the committer ou the Dill. Mr. BIRCH moved for returns of collectors of duty on salt, to whom retired pensions had been allowed.—Ordered. 'NORFOLK PLIITION FOIL Reeottm.-31r. COKE presented remonstrances and petitions, Ac. from Grteuhoe, &c. in Norfolk, complaining of agricultural distress, of the army whieb was maintained to keep dove u the Constitutional spirit,' end ut the majorities of that House, which would support any adminis, tration, however " arbitrary or tyrannical;" and praying ter return). The hen. member said, lie tv as ashamed of what he had seen, fur the majorities had caused the ruin they now beheld ; and es to the reduction of taxes they had been forced from, ministers. Had lie been present lie would not have cheered the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. I'll LE3IANTLE opposed the petition, and moved as VI amendment Distil he rejected. Mr. Cl KW EN said the petition spoke the truth, anti W hile the petitioners were so disposed, how could they speak lAdt:l. ise, as seats bad been notoriously bought and sold. Mr. JAMES observed, that the petitioners also spoke of the taxes being required to support the influence of the Crown; that was a species of treason; they were wanted to suppoi t the interest and influence of the borouglimungering faction. Lord LONDONDERRY said, if they bad any regard for their own character, they could not receive this petition. 't he petition did nut come in the ordinary language; it al•peared a decidedly worded remonstrance. Mr. CALCRAFT said that the petitioners avowed what no man could deny ; nay, what the ministers themselves admitted, that places aud pensions were supported with the sole view at supporting government. The army was tremendous, and it had heenjused in a Nay that was somewhat suspicions. Sir R. V ILSON observed, that the Secretary to the Trea sury could not deny that seats were bought and sold, and that pensions and places were granted 011 the sole condition oi sup portia; the ministers. But had nut petitioners for refulin a right to state theirreasons! Mr. C. II YNN tteelaied that this petition was a studied insult. If, indeed, the army were maintained to keep dents the Constitutional spirit, and if the House were ready to sanction all sorts of giants, then was there made out sufficient ground fur rebellion. klitar, bear.) Then could they receive such a pe tition ? Was it Out an insult? If this petition and remon strance were received, where were they to stop? Ile thou,;tit the House was called on to make a ►tand Places were nut granted with the view of gaining corrupt support. Sir J. NEW PORT said, that the petition only stated what be had often asserted, what had frequently been declared in that House; and after the changes that had takto place, tk.y ought not to cavil about particular expressions. They were told that not one farthing of tax could be reduced ; they hod sass millions reduced ; they were told that certain places could not be abolished—and shortly alter they were abolished : then was it too nowli to allow thepetilioners a latitude of expressionl Ile thought the House would not consult its diguity by reject- ing the petition. Mr. PEEL said, the petitioners themselves had called their documents a " remoustrunee," and that showed the (mimes with which they approached that House. It was meant to insult.— If it were tree that the House was what was described iu the petition, then ought they to abdicate their functions. Mr..l. SMITH denied that the object of the petitioners, front whom he dilfered in many points, was to insult the House; but he would have the House recollect that there were many persons who believed what was set forth in the petition.— (Hear hear.) —It would be better, under all ciicunistences, to receive the petition. *Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. The nsuthers were the rtjectiuu, b9—Against it, ;,3—Majority for the rejection, 34. Mr. COKE in presenting another petition from Norfolk, which was agreed to at the hue general county meeting, de clared that the last petition had no intention to insult the House. He rejoiced in the petitioners ; they w ere men, and men worthy of being represented ; therefore lie gloried in the petitioners. — This petition was similar to the one that had been rejected.— lie had no hope of its being received—but the sentiments w etc such as should carry with him to the grave. He agt end with them as to the corruptions of that House ; and the conduct of ministers was calculated to increase the number of such peti tions, He hoped that the call fur reform would be urns ersul. The petition was read, and ordered to be printed, amidst the cheering of the opposition. Mr. MARDTAT presented a petition front wholesale lad retail grocers of the metropolis, against any ►enewa I of the M est India Dock Company's Charter. Referred to the com mittee on foreign trade. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the report on the naval and military pensifitui be received. The order was then read, and, on the motion that it be brought up, Mr. CALCRAFT said, others had particularly complained of the proposed iande of reducing the salt tas ; those concerned in the lisheriee said they could not bear the remaining tax — that it would be ruinous to them to coutimmue the 2s. tax. ...Th . ; CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied, that present exemptions and protections would continue to January nest ; that it would cover the approaching season ; so that if redress were required, it would be time enough nest session to consider it. After some further remarks, the report was brought up and read. On the resolution, that a portion of the 4,000,0001. should conic lruut the sinking toad,