The National Register. — London, England, 1822-03-25 00:00:00

Thought none could maintain that it was adequate rebel; be contended that it was quite disproportionate, as com pered with the distress that existed. Ile also urged that the distresses were not confined to the agriculturists; the trailing and sbopkveping interests also most seriously felt the distresses of the tunes. The farmers undoubtedly were in a serious situation ; the cattle brought to market brought ruinously low prices. He proposed that there should be a tax on foreign tallow; about one-third of our consumption consisted of foreign tallow. He knew that the immediate effect might be to raise the prices—but the relief to the farmers would be great. The duty on tallow was 10 per cent., while that on hemp was 35 per cent., an I article that did not enter into competition with articles of our own growth. Russia produced 40,000 tons of tallow, and out of that quantity :4,000 tons were imported into this country, But Russia only was not concerned—if peace were to be restored in South America, great quan tities would be imported; and when there was such a difference in the expences of raising the articles, surely the English farmer merited protection. In asking for the committee, he proposed that there should be an advance of about 15 per cent. He calculated that 5 per cent. would go to the farmer, and that the ditty would produce 500,0001. He proposed to take off the duty on tallow can dles, its collection being so expensive, about one-seveuth of the 360,0101. produce. This cha n g e would be a great relief to the community, and, as would have been seen, without injury to the revenue. The farmer, he calculated, would gain 500,0031• by the rise of tallow. Here, then, was an opportunity for the governmeni to benefit the gra pier without injuring the consenter; and as to any effect on our relations, without Russia, lie did not thick that we 1114.1 to look for any favour from that country. Bet even Russia could be pacified by a commutation of the duty on hemp, which bore so heavily on our shipping interest. On these several grounds lie moved for a committee of the whole house to consider the propriety of augmenting the ditties on foreign tallow, and taking off the duly on call. dies. Col. DAVIES seconded the motion. Itr. SYKES agreed with what had fallen from the hon. mover, particularly in the propriety of repealing the tax on tallow candles. He approved of that because it would take off a serious burden on the mass of the people. But as to iiicreasing the duty on foreign tallow, when it was desirable that our influence should br maintained with Russia, between whom and Turkey war seemed to be ti entitling in the balance, he considered that this measure was most injudicious: and certainly lie did not think that the increase of the duty on Russia tallow would promote our shipping interests. The tax on tallow candles, he re peated, was most unwise ; it was a lax on labour, as mach work was carried on by candle light —a tax that never bed the sanction of any true politician. Mr. F. ROBINSON opposed the motion, maintaining that the proposed duty would undoubtedly advance the price of tallow. anti that the suggested changes would be any thing but a relief to the country. Mr. RICARDO said, each gentleman seemed to have his favourite scheme of attacking the taxes. Some com plained of the malt tax, some of the salt tax, others of the tallow ; as, for his hart, he thought the taxes 00 law pro ceedings the most juju% ions. After further remarks, the motion was negatived with ant a division. Mr. BENNET postponed his motion for the repeal of the leather tax to a distant day. IRISH FIVE PER CENTS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought forward a series of rt.:Motions, similar to those agreed to respecting the English Five per Ceuts.—Adopted.—lte port to-morrow. Sir J. OSBORN postponed the remaining Navy Esti mates, after sonic observations on the improptiety of hi inging them forward 110 W. ARMY ESTINIATES. The house erolved into a committee of supply, Lord PA LNIERSTON proceeded to move the remain ing Army Estimates. lie that proposed that a grant of 43,0001 he made for the expenditure of Ole War °thee estableslineents.—The noble lot d contended that all possi ble reductions had taken place, particularly in this de partment. Mr. HUME denied that there had been any real redactions, such as would be beneficial to the country ; there would, in fact, be little or no saving to the public, fer what had been taken off in some instances had been added in other quartets. The above and several items were agreed to. On the :notion for /tenting 4,5t01. as salary to the Judge Advocate. Mr. HUME moved, as an amendment, that the sum be 3;m1.11., being a reduction of 1,001. The SOLICITOR GENERAL supported the original resolution ; and after seine conversation the committee divided—Fur the original motion, 112.1—Againat it, In— Mar”rity, 106. Toe unh, r re:.olutions were disposed of, the house re. sweet it, and the tient ordered to he received to-niurrow 'l.o. lem wining Orr: were read, and the house ad puttied at half past twelve. 2sittraina2. stancti 21, Mr. quanne. the Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod, summoned the !louse to attend the House of Peers. to hear the royal asszat given by commission to sundry bills.—(See Lords.) Sir W. LEMON presented a petition from several Unitarians, complaining of certain forms of the Marriage Ceremony to which they wete expeoesl, and which their religious opinions Pilule grievances and they prayed that the law on the subject might be rivirert.—Ordoreo to be printed. Mr. CALVERT moved for Returns of the Summonses issued from the Southwark Court of Writa.sts, distinguishing these above and those under 101—Ogden:a. Mr. CALVERT gave 'lairs that on the 47th inst. lie should move for lease to bring in a bill to regulate the Assize of Bread in the City of London, and w i bin the bills of mortality. kir W. CURTIS postponed till the lath of April the London Bridge Water Works Bill. SLAVE TRADE. Mr. HOLMES presented the Report of the last Session of IC°N;Te'So Amrtiea, relative to the right of search, es connected with the abolition of the slave Trade.—Ordered to be minted. Lord W, BENTINTK presented a petition front certain oc rupiera of land in Nottinghainthire, complaining of agricultural dt.tress..—Ordered to lie on the table, Mr. ELLIS moved, that the Dublin Fever hospital Bill be teed a second titue...-Read a second time, and ordered to be sesi,niitted to-morrow. IRISH FIVE PER CENTS. Mr. lIROGDEN presented the Report of the Committee on the Irish Five per Cents. Resolutions read, on notion of the Cli.eocellor of the Exchequer- They were similar to those nottling the Erglish its") pet Cents. Avocet to, and the bill ordered accordingly; j , i 'r. • • THE NATIONAL REGISTER Mr. BROGDRN resettled the Report of the Committee of Supply, containing the resolution for granting 2,300.000 L to Pie oldie Five per Cent. Dissentients, &c. Read and agreed to• CUSTOMS BENEVOLENT FUND. Col. DAVIS brought forward his motion on this subject.-- The fund arose from deductions horn Clerks' salaries, certain entries, &c. ; its object was to beacflt windows, and portion off oephants. He moved for accounts of the receipts for this fund by the Secretary to the Customs, by poundage on officers' salaries. &c. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER should not give any opposition to the fund; the receipts were applied to benevolent purposes ; and the whole would bear investigation. Motion agreed to. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE4unn moved that the Report of the Committee of Supply of the Ist of March be presented. Mr. BROGDEN presented it. It was for grants on account of the naval service. Bead. On the resolution for a grant for the Dock Yards, Mr. HUME complained of the enormous expence of those dock yards. and of the disproportionate increase of the Civil departments in the navy. They were enormously etiereasecl since Mg ; they amounted for the last year to go4;0001.; and in the seventh year of peace, the expence was within Oil. of what it was in war, when he had a thousand pendants flying. In some of the dock yards there were trilling reductions ; but he must protest against the present expenditure. As he under stood that very great reductions were about to take place on a revision of those establishments, he should content himself with thus expressing his disapprobation ; he trusted that hereafter there would be no occasion for its repetition. Olean. Resolution agreed to. On the resolution respecting the pay for foreign yards. Mr. HUME asked whether there was any intention to reduce the salaries of the Commissioners in foreign yards Sir R. MARTIN answered m the negative...the pay was considered small enough. Sir I COFFIN spoke of the advantage that resulted to our service from having these Commissioners. Resolution agreed to. Mr. HUME. spoke of the expence of the instructors. Go. vapor. &c, of the Royal Academy. He hoped hereafter to beboid some reduction in them. On the resolution respecting the victualling of the Navy: Mr. HUME said, the £BO. OOO expenditure on account of the coast blockade was merged in the Navy estimates. As it was for Revenue purposes. the expences ought to be kept cepa rate. Ile wished that the charges for the marines should be I kept distinct from those for the navy; and he also complained of the placing at the head of the marines naval oflicere• He also Lamented that the marines should be se much neglected. There was want of encouragetneut and promotion in the corps; the officers rarely gained advancement. Ile regretted that ho had not the opportunity of taking the sense of the House on the Sinecures in the Marine Department. Sir G. COCKBURN defended die system of establishment, particularly at Portsmouth, as well as the corps of Marines. As to what were called sinecures," they were no such things; and he was sure superior Commissions in the marines were far more valuable than pensions. He for instance prided himself on hie Major Generalship of Marines far more than if he lied the highest pension. Resolutions agreed to, as were the remaining resolutions. Mr. HUMP, moved for a continuation of the return of the Convicts sent out of the Kingdom. Ordered. The other basinves being disposed of, the Rouse adjourned. Fitinntr, MAncil 2. Mr. M ASON presented the annual accounts respecting the officers in the East Jodie company's pay, &e. Mr. ItYN el moved the second reading ut the Somers-town Improvement Bill. Read a second time, and ordered to be committed. ?dr. BEDFORD presented from the Exchequer nn ac count of the progress made in tire redemption of the public debt. The Clerk handed to the Speaker an account of all peti tions presented within the last two )ears, of agricultural distre-s. 0. tiered to lie on the tittle. The House went into it committee on the motion of Mr. F. Let%is,on the Turnpike Laws Amendment Bill. Report presented, nod ordered to he re•co tttttt Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition complaining of agricultural distress, and of the isisoffieiency of the plans of relief hitherto suggested by the rs. Unless some more efficient means of relief were devised, the petitioners said that they should lw unable to maintain their families. The petition was from Noisome Cross, Cambridgeshire. Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. Hoar.--Mr. LAMRTON presented a petition from Newcastle-nailer-line, signed by 4,1350 persous in the course of three days, prasing for the adoption of measures to pro mote the liberatiou of Mr. Hunt. Ile (moldered the treat ment of Mr. H. most oujustifiable ; the sentence was and certainly it reflected tin great credit on the magistrates their should have been such treatmeat air 'insulter for a political coerce. Sir. M. %Y. RI D LEy said, that the petition was not the result army public meeting and lie aas not favourable to petitions privately dot up. Mr. DICK ENSON complained of harsh insinuations a i minst persons alto acre nut before the Douse. The petition having been read, it speaking of the nnto. rims. and atvoaeil timeworn bind hail crept into the honourable House," and of evil councillors Ii is itie the King to thank petsuits fur the Inurdi , r of his uoti subjects." Mr. FREI:NI A NTLE objected to the petition on account of the lenguage just quoted, Mr. LUSH INGTON objected to it on recount of ;another seutiment, a kith the petition contiiitted, settiti. fro th that Mr. Hunt's great cdence was," his endeavours tu make y our honourable House more huniturathle:' Sir It. WILSON defended the langunge of the petition. He deemed it justly to apply to a portion of that Home If it were rejected, it 'timid be adding ridicule to the other faults with w hich they Were charged. It was really being very fastidious, utter ohm hail passed, to complain of tile language of env petition I fur had nut a minister of the Crott lately defended useless place., as requAte to maintain the influence of the Croon in that House f And hod not ',II ri,las places hero recently gii co, In accuse the sinister suppott of a noble Lord in ;mother Saari.. Mr. J AMES said, that a late Speaker had s poken of the cons uptien lathe House brief: as nutin tom as the sun at noon day. (Hear,) Mr. W YNN observed, that the late Speaker KO not so spoken of the Itow.e (Hear, hem !) 105:alt d the petitiuu heeaMe its llhj• et sues lu 1/110) , Mr. G. Hl NB ET remimied t h e Hume that the late Speaker spoke of traffic in seats a- a hat would hate mode our ancestors startle with indignation t and Mr. said, that it was a teatte that are. ;is icnis its the sou ut mom day. (Hear.) As to th • petition. it c. is for it Irdeess of grievances; except they *ere to detrrm.ne that they ame last to receive any but latelatory petittaus, hues, Lot how they goeid reject this peritiers. _._..~ - \ Mr. METH UEN said. k eras tat agreeable to the eons hoe members to hear that they were thereby corrupt meson, aud acted from corrupt motives. Mr. HO BHOUSE was astonished at this boo. member's squeamishness, 'for surely he was not hinted at its the petition. There were undoubtedly many him. members in that House who were highly independent, and who obtained Ikea seats in the most honourable manner $ bat had they not lately heard of seats being sold, of such and such seats having been Nought by the occupiers, and that places were requisite to enable the Crown to maintain its in/ inner I—but they had received petitions containing stronger lainguage—that of the friends of the people, for instance. They °trend to prove that certain seats were filled by particular Peen or certain members. He hoped that further resistance would not be ' offered on account of the language, for if it were. the people might begin to suspect that all was not exactly right. Mr. LAMBION said, this petition wily professed to he that of the " undersigned . ' persons. The complaint (Sir M. Ridley's) was remarkable, fur when the celebrated " Hole and Corner" Petitions were presented, it was said that the sense of the people could as well be collected by such, as by soy other menus. The squeamishness about seats was re inutkable, for he had heard members stale tee very prices for which seats had been obtained, without those persons being called to order. Lord Cochrane said be bad given 50031. for a neat. Noland v thought of calling thine persons to order, and yet this petition was complained of so warmly. —lle declared that he did nut think the object of the peti tioners to he, to insult and vilify the Hoare.—(Heir ) Mr. PEEL declared that he thought these could he no doubt of the petionere object being to vilify and besets the House. To resist the precedent now sought to be established, and to protect the sacred right of petition, he also mast üb. ject to the document being received. Mr. MONCK observed, that as the petitioners were rea soning on what he might now call " historical fact.," they adverted to charges that had been preferred, and that bad out been refuted ; and he tberi•forts hoped that the House would not reju et the petition on such grounds. The gallery was then cleared for a division. The numbers were—For the petition, 99—Against it, 193 —hlujority against it, 101. Mr. HU ME presented a similar petition, in the sentiments and prayer of which he concurred. The petition was from Paisley. It was read and ordered to lie of the table. The House, at its rising, on the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, was nereed to be adjourned to Monday next. Mr. THEODORE HOHIL—Mr. G. BENNETsaid, be had ' repeatedly milted for the commissariat accounts, re..arding Theodore Hook, but in waits; they had not yet beru pro duced $ he therefore moved that those accounts be presented fort hw ith.—Ordered. The LORD ADVOCATE postponed the second reading . of the Scotch Burghs ACCOUIIII.' Bill till Thursday next, after Lord A. Hamilton hnd complained of arch postpone. went, 'rite CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that 1.5 long as there erre any of the estimates before the noose, it would he right that the committees of supply should have precedence. (1 lear.) Lora NUGENT moved fur returns respecting the go vernor and sulisgoveramor of the Calibre and Leeward Isiandn, dec.—Ordered The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the Humane go into a co 00000 iittee of supply. Mr. lIUNIE amnia that the receivers'-general bill was first to be brought on. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied. that if it could nut be brought forward early, it would be postponed. The house then went into the committee. Sir J. OSBORN moved that the grant, postponed from a former evening, for 151,0001. on account of the im piovements in our dock-yards, be agreed to. Mr. FIUME was against this vote. He maintained that one farthing mole ought nut to be granted till she utility of carrying out such works was tits! ascertained, parti cularly iiillMs at Sheerness. They hail east already, so expensive were thole several works, 1,4'21,00,./1. ; and he should therefine propose that such fart he first ascertain ed. If they went on, doubtless the eapence would be upwattli of 2,000,0001. to the country ; were they pre pared to incur such increased expellee? The amendment was negatived, aud the original reso. Winn agreed to. Lord PA LM ERsToN then brought forward the re maining mills estimates. On that which proposed a grata fur the service of foi . ign g ii ikons. Mr. FIUME 'need!, as an amendment, • reduction of 12,0301 After some remarks, the committee divided on his amendment. Far it 4 I.—against It !-O. Lord PALMERSTON next 111UVell the grant fur the half-pay. Sir H. lIARDINGE Minded to ant extraordinary stave. meat repeatedly made ley Mr. litime. namely, that sinve the peace, there hail bed' 9,:D00 vacancies in time at its ; that the eeimmissions hail been sold or otherwise ili,;ii.e., , 4 oh, so as to introduce that 'mintier of new utiiig , es to tie presided lin s and that had such etmamis•ions been titled up by persona taken front the half pay kat, there is 0.1.1 have been an annual saving of some lice; died thou:ea:els —of tomoam,ls of 140J0,0031. calculating the calumissions as annuities. lie deemed such state.nent so estrani'lt nary. thin he was induced to make seine in q uiry too ii ; and he Conti] the elateittent contained great error. The I . gentleman had calcolated every promo:ion as ores. :dolling a vacancy, torgottiog that noisily tie next in rank was advanced to the ditnatton made vacant by anothet's pi enaction. Instead ut there having been between two end three thousand vacancies, such as the lion. moldier Ilig.:1111, where feral' office' a had been introduced into the army, there had in fad been uoly about sit hundred. MI.HUME admitted that, limn the elitliciiity 1 1 1 ob. twining accurate iuthianatiozi, he had been led taw seems trios of Liman rs ; and he pet it le the committee whether it 'night not to be a matter of sum prise, teeollectieg the masses at itecolinis that lie had t hunk titian:tit, that ling stateinelits might sometimes he erioncous? But he destosit that they affected his al eminent of the pokey gild jilOil'ES Of advalitinz halt-pay uth.trs to such vacancies as negiat Of Cur. The reselotion was ultimately agreed to; an was a r:so. Wien for 100,0 01. for 'satis.' pi•iiiiiiiis. and 2ii tit 1.. liic the military coUrge.—Out the I csoliitMis fur 17..t,1;:11. tor tile compassionate list, Mr. HUME said, he uncleistoad the allow:glees given iii,•ati this list wire made siiiiji et of sere et, at e ii,,...-.. V That persons received silkm , saaesn 11111,1,11 this till; 10f ( For contrautaion scel.A , 14.)