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R. I • • 178 3tnperiat HOUSE OF LORDS. most) tr. JeNti 1. The Grampoand Votaries Dist . ' anchisement Bill was lminglit lip from the Co sssss ions, with the amendments made by the lords agreed to. MEI. TO ReaI:LATE (ouitTs OF LAW IN IRELAND. — Viscount SIDMOUTH said, the three bills on the table which the lords had ordered to be reed this day a accord time, were framed for the purpose of correcting grilse abuses whin!' had long been obuo►ions in the late courts of Ireland. Those abuses had arisen from the practice of tiling enormous fees from the suitors its courts of justice. He did not enter into all the provisions of the bill, consi dering the time for ample discussion would bein the com mittee ; lie, therefore, concluded by moving the bill for regulating the coatis of law in Ireland be read a second The Earl of DONOUGHMORE complained that the . the report of the con iiii issioners upon which the bill was ft anted came too late to the house. The lords could have nu oppor 'ty of reading it before the principle of the hill was Agreed to. As it did not acem probable lie could obtain any delay, he should move the bill be read a second time this der six months. Lord REDESDALE expressed some doubt on the po licy of the measure. The payment of salaries was an equitable at rangemesst with respect townie public officers —but others, who filled inferior stations, would discharge their ditties carelessly sinless they received fees. In the ei 1111 l entire he should move some amendments. The Eat' of LIMERICK disclaimed all interest in the ut iters to he arranged by the bill. The LORI) CHANCELLOR said, with respect to castle offices hr would rather give salaries, but to others firs. ire did not wish to lay down any rule upon the atiliject. In a ca►e of this sort, which hail relation to the courts of Justice in Ireland, was disposed to leave it to Isis noble friend, who hail left the house (Lord Redesdale.) The noble lord thought that ■ public officer, Industrious in the discharge of his duty, was entititled to salary. Those aim did little were certainly not so munch entitled to sale ties. The Earl of Donottglimort's amendment was then put, and negatived without a division.—The bill was then read a second time, and committed fur Friday. The bill fir regulating the Irish Court of Chancery was read a second time, and also con 111 l itted for Friday. Lord sIDMOUTH adverted to a notice given by a no ble earl (Darnley) ore motion to-morrow ou the subject of stationery in Ireland. As a noble friend, who wished to talc part in the discussion, would lie unavoidably absent to-morrow, he wished the noble earl to postpone his mo tion to a future day. Earl DARNLEY, on the above representation, con sented to defer lima motion until the 13111 of June. The house then adjourned. TUesD►T, JUNE 5. The Strathmore Peerage came again under the consider ation of their Lordships, and further hearing postponed. Baca° BILL.—The Earl of LAUDERDALE rose, pursuant to 1101 ice, to move the second reading of else sale id Bread He said the ohjeet of the Bill was to repeal the injurious effect of is clause in a former bill, which clause, though intruded for the regulation of bakers in the sale of bread, had the effect of cm/Whig fraudulent bakers to cora blue together for the purpose of practising their frauds, mid was injurious to good and honest bakers. This bill would do ;twit, all combinations of that description, anti lay no ✓e.striction upon good bakers, It would also enable the purchaser to ascertain time weight of bread, and whether they are fairly treated or not. On the the whole, the noble earl considered it a measus e i which would greatly benefit the public. The bill was then read a second time, and committed for to-morrow. Lord SIDMOUTH moved the second reading of the Clerks In Nisi Prim in Ireland Regulation Bill, which was accordingly read, and committed for Friday. The Irish rate •f Interest Bill was read a second time, and committed for to-morrow. Lennox Wuatee Bt Lx.—The Earl of LIMERICK moved that counsel be galled to the bar, in compliance with • !petition. in which several persons. claiming to have a common interest in opposing this bill, prayed to be heard by counsel. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, the petitioner might be heard at the bar, provided they had a public and common interest to advance; but in support of private interest they could mit. Mr. Hari ison, Mr. R. Jackson, mid a junior counsel were then called in, mill Mr. Jackson was heard against the bill, which he contesoled would operate to the injury, slut only to the mjury of the there'll:tuts of the city of Loudon, but all persons engaged in commerce, and the lauding of g o ods upon is hurls on the banks of the Thnm• s. After the learned counsel had been heard at seine length Airther proceedings were deferred till Friday next. The seamen's wages bill win through a committee, and was reported without amendment. Adjourned. WeltsbaNA T. JUNK 6. A message from the C 11111 l nons brought up the bankrupt laws amendment bill, which was read the first time. Mi. Mas 111 l from the C oit India Home, rest Med ;te pees, in pursuance of an order made by their lordships. 'llse 11011141: went tutu a eummitl,e oil the Isiah rate, of interest bill, which, alter some (swivel salt 111 l with Ilse Fast I ul D.stiough e, the Earl of Limerick, the Eat lof Lau derdale, and the. Ltd Chancelior, passed ()ugh the committee, and was reported.—Adjourned. TIJUKSLIA Y, JUNE: 1. Counsel were heard to use Strathmore and Moleswm th pr. mac el ' , shit further proceedings pow potted. V 1.01111111 NI ) NOU 111 1.1.11 MI the tab r. pus stwol to an addles-, ten .1111 reports male I.y ilit jud_es to the sitecretaly for Is - cloud, aultject or late inocredsogs in the Irish law eons N11111:1` 1r:11, given of the becuutl reading of the bankrupt Las' iota Nlr. )411.1 Other r the C brou4l.l Il a t 611.14111C3'S dIV.II lee hill, and ,•ral pi irate l a n., a ails •1111C11 , 1111VUIP IP) (ill Lords, agieed to by the C.lllllOllll, flu, kiwi la a courts' bill reported to the house. 'the NII:1 U.SIIO It Y seitil it peutiou ti the In 1:lhllaNl, 11f liiitilurii.sqaare, nisi its •iriiitty. il. Loom' of tae gm light uill.--Tug bi!l war read a n.rund time, rie FAA of 1/INOUCiI4 \(0111'. pr..enteti a petiiton I, a . a pet Clailer),tu-npluiniug of a law subtaioicil tol tau aperainni of wait of the hale lur reattlititug the IltiA 1..t4 Ltruit, R ,t ~~ y i wY~ ',-. "~: NA' INAL REGISTER !orris fr table. Adjouined. FRIDAY, JUNE S. The Royal Assent wa , given by Commission to the Seamens' Wages Bill—the Grampound Disfranchisement Bill.—thedurors Attendance—the Attormes Regulation—the Sale of Bread— Gierawley's Divorce—the Bsitip 7 Jbdges Lodgings'-and the Edinburg Gaol Bill. The Commissioners were the Lord Chan cellor, the Earl of Shaftesbury, and Lord Melville. Mr. BROGDEN, and other Aleinbers from the Commons, brought(up the-South Sea 'Trails Bill, and the Irish lasolvens Debtor's Bid. which were read the first time. • The Bankrupt Laws Amendment Bill was read a second time, and committed fur Friday. COMMITTEE 024 ) °REIGN' TENDE.-.—The Marquis of I.ANSDOWN called the attention of the House to that part of the Report of the Commitee on Foreign Trade which relates to the Silk Trade. The Noble Marquis observed, that the Com mittee had reason to believe the silk manufacturers had recently been in a state of progressive improvement, and from the demand • for their commodities, some advantage might be expected, pro vided restriction was laid on the importation of French silks.— If a duty was imposed on French silks. and the duty taken off the raw material, much good might be done.—The British ma nufacturers were desirous of standing in conmetif on with the silk manufacturers of other countries. The Committee had culled the attention of the House to another circumstance, namely, the peculiar situation of the late manufacturers of Spitalfields. The Act of Parliament regulating the Spitalfielda trade made it impossible for any imumfacturer, however rich or I adventurous, to use, or introduce any machinery whatever. It was impossible tbr any manufacturer of Spitalfields to carry on his business with Fiench machines, which had alone given the French an advantage in the trade. Thee was then in England a machine of the greatest importance to the French manufac turers, but it could not be brought into use in consequence of the operation of the act alluded to.—Such a state of things the House would feel to be most injurious to individuals, who had to carry on business in a state of distress, which was driving manu facturers out of most of the districts. In that view the Com mittee had made a report to their lordships, and they trusted that rat branch of our manufactures, the silk trade, which had hitherto flourished, would be entitled to protection, and that the individuals engaged in it would find that assistance which, on every public ground, they ought to receive. The Earl of DARNLEY postponed his intended motion on the Irish Stationery until Monday, the 114th inst. On the motion for going into a Committee on the Irish Courts of Law Bill, Lord DONOUGH MORI weed that Counsel be called to the Bar, to be heard in behalf of a peddonsr of the name of Chum'', who eenchased et Wary demi, by* bill After some coorersaisims, Mr. Blake, the barrister, was called in and heard for the plainer, else whisk tee tt shim* the Committee, and the Nesseadjeermet le Weikurifty ugh HOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAV, JUNE 4. General GASCOYNE presented a petition from mer chants of Liverpool against the timber duties bill, and a petition front ropemakers of Liverpool, complaining of extreme distress, and attributing the greater part to the introduction of machinery, steam engines, Sic. Gen. GASCOYNE afterwards presented a petition from the merchants, bankers, and tradesmen of Liverpool—he believed it had received the unanimous signatures of the town, against the . Extra Post bill. The introduction of the bill, the petitioners observed, they had received with much concern • and the hon. member added, that when such bill waif concern; Wore the house (he midersrood it would be brought forward soon), he should then otter some observations against it. Petitions severally ordered to lie on the table, and to be printed. Mr. T. WILSON presented a petition front the bankers of London and Westminster, against the Forgery Punish ment Amelioration bill, praying that the same protection might be extended to them and their dealings, as far as they were likely to be affected by forgeries, as was ex tended to the Bank of England. They contended, that the distinctions suit exemptions would be of as injurious a tendency, as they were elan invidious character. Petition read, and ordered to be printed. Mr. T. WILSON presented a petition from merchants, &c. engaged in the woollen trade against the woollen bill now befure the house, praying the house to adopt mea sures to prevent the exportation of sheep and rains. Mr. LUSHINGTON said, there was very tttttt ecessary alarm felt on this subject. The bill was merely to allow exportation between the colonies, leaving powers in the hands of the privy council to restrain the exportation: whenever they should think fit : but as to the dread res pecting the fate of long wool, lie had eau objection to in troduce a clause to Petition I tall, and ordered to be painted. Mr. H. DAVIS presented a petition from the bankers of Bristol against the forgery punishment hill. Lord WALI'OLE presented a petition from King's Lynn, in Norfolk, against the slew poor bill. Mr. 1.1.:Na N RD presented a petition trum the paupers (heretofore termed the labouring poor) of Ipswich—a Class Of persons who had never before approached that house. They complained of the poor laws amendment The hum member then proceeded to condemn thy bill. Some uf its chimes lie should oppose whenever the bill came before the 'misc.—Petition read, and ordered to be painted. Mr. ill. ‘Ctillill RN presented a petition from Manches ter against the poor law; amendment bill, and a petition against the spoiled stamps bill front the same place.— Head, and ordered to lie on the table. A bill was brought in to prevent the adulteration of clover ' and read a lirst time. Mr. W . coved that returns presented respect ing highways, bridges, arc. on Friday, be printed.— Ordered. Mr. J. SMITH moved the third reading of the bankrupt laws amendment Ind. Mr. C. S,llllll proposed a clause, but afterwards withdrew tl. The second reading of the usury laws bill was post poned till Fu day. I:ollGENl.—sir J. MACINTOSH moved the third rrailMg of the lorcely 1 *slintelit mitigation bill. As to the mill which be had introduced, retinicatitry ot • our CI motinl laws, lie again lamented that it was deemed rs sem tat in inttoduee su many e‘ceptiouv. its its 011411141 ham, the bank papei %VIP. exempted from the opera tem ut this bill. Others had thought that there ought to be further exemptions—the home had appeared to ac .iteseo le the propriety 1 , 1 CV•1111111011%; and theme hole it was out lot I:oo to cumplaio oh thr u m, however h• might deplore them. Private lur„enies were ve ry nit'. letetit from forging batik noire, ur even country notes- Ytivate lusgertes implied actimaitstaaes with the baud i Wining OP thilrelnemustanceerldille la rtieligb.ed upon. IltreelltiOaralts4an, fur indium*, sbilit uoadw these particulars; bills were not likely to be taken without its being known that the parties came honestly by them. If they were, it were the result ofliegligetice, if the assertion were not a libel on the whole mercantile world; hut surely they had not the right of requiring their negligence to be guarded by the gallows. (Hear, hear.) As to the exemption regarding wills, he admitted that it was one that did nut stand on the principle. It was an exception ; it was a peculiar case; it was tree where the party, Or chief witness, must necessary he withdrawn.— With respect to marriage registers, Sc. they came within the remarks which he had made upon the subject of ex emptions. As to die provisions of the bill, iegarding the crime of uttering, there he was iatlexible..-diere he felt he ought nut to make any concession.—The ilOll, member then went into details of the number of prosecutions, elm. cations, arc. and concluded with moving, that the bill be read a third time. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL opposed the bill, taking the same line of argument that had been pursued by the Solleitot-General at a former evening. Mr. DENMAN supported the bill, complimenting the manner in which the ;peat cause of an amelioration of our criminal code had been sustained by Mr. Batton in a previous stage of time measure. It was indeed gratifying, lie urged, to behold the mild precepts of chriatianity brought forward with so much eloquence and propriety to promote the great cause of amending oar laws. After some hither discussion, the house divided on the Auestion tar the third reading. For the motion, 1 17— gainst it, It l—Majority for the bill, 6. When we were again admitted we found Mr. CRII'I'S moving to introduce a clause, exempting from the provisions of the bill any promissory note or bill of exchange on any banker or bookers. Mr. BARING opposed the clause, which went to ex. elude any security of any sort which could he drawn by a banker. The house might deal with the bill as they thought proper, but he was couvinced they would not adopt this clause. Dr. LUSH IN GTON opposed the clause. He was con vinced the bill without it stuuld be a much better security for hunkers than with it. He knew that many bankers %mild not prosecute offenders became of the capital punish. meat. lie bad been informed of one banker is Int bud been forged on fur the 540 U of 10.6004 and would not prosecute the offender from the reluctance he kit to effect the life of a fellow-creature. Mr. Cripps and Mr. Martin supported the clause. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the house divided—For the clause 109—Agniost it I(4—Majority 7. On the question that the bill do paw, the gallery was cleared, and a division took place.—The smashers were— For the third reading 115—Against it 121—Majority 6. The bill is consequently lost fur the present. Adjourned. TUESDAY, JUNE 5. At four o'clock the Speaker counted the house, as usual. but as there wete only 36 members present at that hour, 40 ' being required, the house was declared to stand adjourned till tomorrow. WEDNESDAY, JUNE 6. Mr. SUNINER presented a petition from St. Michael, Bermondsey, against the poor bill. Mr. COKE presented a petition from Holt, Norfolk, against the poor bill, praying that the house would not repeal the few remaining pritleges of the poor. Mr. COURTENAY presented a similar petition from Exeter. Severally read, and ordered to be printed. Mr. RING moved the third 'trading of the Metropolis gas light bill. Mr. C. SMITH proposed some clause, which was not heard in the gallery. Mr. BY NG opposed it. Strangers were ordered to withdraw for a division, but none took place. The bill was ultimately read a third time and passed. Mr. MANSFIELD presented a petition from St. Mary, Leicester, againat Mr. Searlett's poor bill, urging that the fixing of a maximum would have the effect of pronourreitig a sentence of starvation on the poor in many instances.— He also presented ' 'ler petitions from St. Margaret's and All Saints, Leicester.—Severally read, and ordered to lie printed. A petition was presented loom manufacturers of wor sted yarn, praying a repeal of the foreign wool tax. Sir F. ButtpLrr presented a petition from George Williams, 0:41. a justice tit the peace, complaining of the general practice and directions uf the gaoler of Laucashire gaol, in opening letters, and thus intercepting them. lie hoped the house would adopt memories to prevent such practices: Mr. JAMES said, that this was the practice to which lie had on a former occasion adverted ; Isis letters, for instance, had beets broke open. He considered such practice a breach of privilege. Mr. B. WILBRAHAM defended the practice, and said it was conducted under the eye of the magistrate. Mr. G. BLNNErf considered the practice most repre hensible.—Petition referred to the c' ' um prisons. Mr. SCARLET!' presented a petition trout sixteen of the select vestry of St. Pancras, in favour of Inc pour relief bill.—He also presented • similar petition STUD, Northey, im Sussex.—Ordered to be ousted. Mr. SCARLETT then moved that the report of the poor relief bill be taken into fluffier consideration ou 'I Inn sday se'imight.—Ordered. Sir G. HILL moved fur returns respecting Irish linen exported, duties paid thereon, 6:c. since 111.).-Ordered. A petition front Henley, in Hertfordshire, was pre seined against Mr. Scarlett's pour MlL—Ordered to be printed. Mr. P. MOORE presented a similar petition from the mayor, bailiffs, and commonalty of Coventry. The justice of the peace bill went thrutigii a committee. —Repot t to-morrow. Sir R. WILSON presented a petition from inhabitants of the to `a I and neighboui hood of Liverpool, against the poor relict hitt, the petitioners thinking that it might to ue called the rem' spoliation bill. Mr. MARIA . ..I' f said lie hail looked at the petition, and that ml its 41,4iiiiiesits wrte funned m igourance of the facts. so tar 110111 deserving to be called the pour spolia tion bill, lie maintained that every friend of the poor would support lit, hill. Mr. CALLHA IT said, he bad no limiee that he was pal heel:arty ilitOrilled On the subjects lint he hoped lie should Item rafter show that lie knew something theoretically as well as practically. lie should oppose the bill, and lie rii,ted lie should be able to convince the house that it uueht out to pass. (Hear.)