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est of his Majesty's liege subjects, she would have had no proceeding against her such as this. She would have been fenced round by the protection the law of England gives to the honour, life, and properly at the lowest sub ject. There must have been the verdict of a Jury. She would have been dee/died guilty by twelve limiest upright conscientious Englishmen, before she was drip aded. The Queen would willingly exchange the throne fur a cottage, unite: the peace and shelter of English laws, %%Well pro tects the meanest subject against oppi elision. The Learned Counsel then observed, that if the evidence should prove the Queen was at Malta or Gibraltar, when the alleged adultery was committed, would any one say those places were unt of the British dominions? And if such a case was made out, could his Majesty's Government proceed against the Queen in any other way than impeachment. The LORD CHANCELLOR here interrupted Mr. Brougham, and said, lee would never sit on the Woolsack to hear Counsel state whether Parliament had done right or wrong with respect to any Bill. Mr. BROUGHAM said, lie bad attempted to do what lie conceived to be his duly. The House had interposed power to stop him it was once just, and lie bowed to the correction. The LORD CHANCELLOR—" The House used to he joss, and in this instance they lay down a rule that they may not be tiniest" Mr. BROUGHAM then went on im p loring that no de . lay might ensue. The Crown Officers, who appeared to have been called in, as it was said, for the end of public justice, must be prepared to go on. At the some time lie would say these officers did not believe the evidence they had to offer, otherwise they never would have offered the Queen 30,0001. a-year out of the Public Revenues, when if was their ditty to proceed to impeachment. The Bishop of EXETER here moved that Counsel du withdraw, and submitted to the House whether the Learn ed Counsel hail not gone beyond his iostructious? Lord HOLLAND deprecated the interruption as un necessary, and Mr. BROUGHAM was again heard. He closed his argument by slating, that the Queen had con fidence in the honour ot the Illustrious Peersof that House, knowing that they would not act with injustice, or truckle to Royalty. Mr. DENMAN was heard on the same side, after which Counsel withdrew.—Adjonrued. PRID•Y. JULY T. Iwontsrgwi Desroas' BILL.—Lord AUCKLAND rose on the order of the day for the committal of the Insolvent Debtors' Bill. The Noble Lord in the first instance, complained that the principle of the Bill was bad, and stated, that it would be neces sary to move several amendments. One clause in the Bill re every debtor, after a certain term, to give up the whole of t i rs u P e tperty, real and personal, at the mercy of his creditors; and if he did not satisfy the order of the court in that respect, he is liable to be imprisoned, and is not to be released. To get rid of that clause, and bring back the Bill to the principle of former Insolvent Bills, he had prepared an amendment. The debtor was to be relieved from the punishment of severe imprisonment if his debts were occasioned by severe misfortune, and where there was no dishonesty, it was too much to leave him to the mercy of his creditor. He should peopose an amendment which would have the effect of extending relief to Crown Debtors. and the Noble Lord said lie was anxious to introduce a clause for the relief of prisoners committed tin contempt of the Court of Chancery; also a clause which would have a compulsory effect. It was to give the power, after a limited period, of removing pri soners who were living in the Rules lead squandering away the greatest part of their property. to confinement within the walls of the prison. Another clause he meant to introduce would provide that instead of remaining three months in prison before a debtor applied for his discharge, he should be empowered to present a Petition ituniediately after his arrest. This enactment would be beneficial to the creditor, because the debtor would no longer be aide to dissipate his property. The Noble Lord did not calculate that he should be able to get the Bill passed during the present Session of Parliament, hut in the ensuing Session he might be able to bring in an improved Bill. Lord REDESDALE agreed with the Noble Lord, that the principle of the Bill ought not to be adopted. The principle went to extend the benefit of a new Banknipt Law to those who were not entitled to it. The Noble Lord was right in his endeavours to restore the old principle of law. The greater part of the per son.. confined for debt, were persons unable to discharge t heir debts. There were also many fraudulent debtors. but the great mass of persons were really rusolvent, and must 'cumin ii) prison, unless relieved by the legislature. It was to a certuin degree an offence, if a nun, contracted debts with a knowledge that tic could not discharge them hut debts were freqnently the effects of tuis• fortune, perhaps occasioned by the iniseunduct of others. There were persons, however, of a different description, naniely—trau dulent debtors, and in the late Insolvent Act, clauses were intro duced to except them. Unless the Bill betine this House was altered in that respect, it ought not to pass the house. In the manner this Bill was framed, the moment a person was in:pil ls:reed for debt, hue was in a situation that he must. within four teen days, apply to the Court for his discharge, and then the whole ot Lis pro[ city was taken out of his hands. That pro vision was too strong. A person imprisoned l'or a debt might, if dine was allowed, discharge the debt for which they were arrested, end fourteen days was too short a term. He mentioned this, in order that the Noble Lord might further consider it.— There anothea point on which he should think it necessary to move an amendineet. As the Bill stood, tie 11101131.11 i a person was arrested he had nothing to do but present a Petition for his discharge. 'fie effect of such Petition would be that of vesting all his property in the hands of his creditorw—lf that clause remained without correction, it weal defeat the Bankrupt Laws. lle should thei ethic move u clause that nothing in the Act should tend to defeat the Hankie, t Law.—Without that amendment the Bill would not be intelligible. Lord AUCKLAND had no objection to the amendment of the made and learned Lord. N‘ ith respect. to die other points, he should tie° pay due attention. The amendments would be printed with the Bill, and come again Lettuce the House its it form to enable the Lords to take a theee certeet stew of it. On a future day he should move to recommit it. The Bill then went thintigh the Conlnittee; the amenelnieriti, were agreed to, and unlered to by printem The Irish Exchequer Bills Bill went through a Committee. Several other Bills vine forwarded in the respective stages, and the Howie uojourned. 110UsE OF (AMMONS. 'donna v, Ji ha 3. 'AMERICA EL►celor.—Slt. \I ODKHOUSE presented the Re putt ut the Luurrac► Elici.ust Culumirlre, which declared Warfel P. Veatker iv 'save been unduly is turned, and that Alr. Rice, has we been duly elected, tioglit to have bur n trim tied. The Coutatittre aho staled that Il n •y bad urdeard Item) Ur: Simi., the Itreortict ut Limerick, into coattail) tot goomi iiirvaricialitoi; rod the Boost., is the soulless of Ali. 11 midmost., so detail the gait! Mi. 0.. Stair to be cutunittlytt to his Alajesty's taut of Newgate. AIr.IOIODEIIOUSE also mowed, as various acts of the Vorporntitan Lad been UN ugh( to light, 11..11 the Commit ties minutes of e‘idence be ptinted.—Ordered. THE NATIONAL REGISTER. Mr. LI LN NET presented the report of the Berwick. tipon-Twced Election Committee, which declared Sir 1). Milne unduly elected.-4 new writ was ordered. E•ST INDIA VOLUNTEERS.-Mr. CANNING moved the second reading of this Bill. He observed, that the Government Having agreed to the raising of this corps, it was likely to be made what it would lave become, had the corps nut been suspended. Mr. BERNAL was sorry to see this bill !nought for ward. Mr. C VSNING observed, that lie should not press the bill, if he cutild nut support the meitsuie with • good case. Dlr. HUME was sorry to observe, that the military were called in on all occasions, the civil power being deemed as nothing ; and this readiness was peculiai ly sliewn on Friday, when the Loyd layor had called out the military. Sir W. CURTIS said, that this was the first time he had heard of any thing of the kind; he had seen no military. Mr. HUME did not know whether the HOllOlll Able I/A rmlet hind been asleep; but the military were in Holborn. (Hear ! ) Mr. Alderman WOOD confirmed the statement, ob serving, that they were in Hatton Garden; the horses' tails might be in Middlesex, hut thei► heads were in Lon don. One of them wa; in communication with the Lord Bayou, and his Lordship acknowledged that lie had or dered out the military. It was most unnecessary, as the H4ll was never more unanimous. Mr. CANNING said lie should, in the Committee, move that the clause regarding the pay be omitted ; with that clause he should nut think of pressing the bill. Bill read a second time, and ordered to be committed. CAELI, , LE ELECTION.--LOrd LOW' 'HER asked whe ther any was to be dime on the Cat lisle Petition. Mr. JAMEi replied, that he should, next Session, move to call the Magistrates to the bar for their conditel in calling out the military when there was perfect tran quillity Lord LOWT HER said, if the charge were not urged now lie should deem it groundless and unfounded. NEW SOUTH WALLs.—Mr. GOULBURN moved the third trading of the New South Wales Duties Bill. Mr. GOULBOCIth afterwards said, in reply to Mr. Wil berforce's enquiry, that the investigatiou which was to take place would t iiihrare the various subjects of complaint. Bill read a third time and passeu. The Committee on the Excise and Spirits' Acts was post poned till to-morrow, then Mr. M. Fitzgerald said, lie should submit his motion res pecting the iiiierClHOW of the Spirit Prude between England aud Ireland. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed, that to-morrow he should be prepared to submit a proposition uu the subject. C ttttt natter postponed till to-morrow. KING'S Alassisua.,—'l'he House, on the motion of Lord Castlereagh, went into a Committee on the King's Message toweling the Royal Incomes. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, he thought the seven pro positions which he should have.to move would have the una nimous support of tile House. They were merely to con- Male those iIiIOWitSCCS that were in existence at the time of the late King's demise. Under other ciicunismuces he might have d some s to Inc Duke of Clarence aeon the Duchess of Kent, on account of her infant Princess. Prince Leopold, however, had, w ith great liberality, taken upon himself the support and edictal 4444 of (lie infant Princess. (Cheers.)—The Grunts which lie should have to move would simply be a continuance of the former incomes. His Lord ship added, that there would be required some allowances for some of the servant. of his late Majesty ; a sum of twenty. four thousand pounds per annum, and the chaiges required might be about 10,0001. Sums actually paid in pensions, before the King's death, amounted to IMMO!. and he uplift heuded there would be nu objection to t Its tie small additions; he should not call for these additions to-night. Ile men tioned the facts. lie concluded ss nth mos mg a grant of 14,05.01. a year for the Duke of York. Lord A. HAMILTON expressed his astonishment that no provisi wts made for her Majesty. H., had repeatedly asked fur infortinition on this subject; and he now thought the proper period for something to be dune had arrived.— Ile mime:wooled that there was no legal income for her Majit-ty. ( I tear !) M . hut was granted, if any, WWI illegally granted :nod miss orthily received. Ile understood that it had been intimated to her Majesty that she was to receive the 33,0001. a tear; bin as a Member of Parliatweid, he must :ilk tin what ground the Slinisteis that noule a branch mitthe ltny ul Family theist pensioner I—(llcar, hear !) But w by was not a provision to be named this SeSSI 4444 t why was it vs ithlteld at a moment like the pi coot i Was it generous, just, or ctinstitut . 1? or svas it MU convenient to the Ministers to star the :1",, much wits lie takeii by surprise, that he did not know a tanner lie ought to boyish) the defect ; hat at all events, lie %Imola inure that the Chair man do leave the chair, to give the Ministers time to recon sider the course they weir pursuing—to repair whet he 0111. sidered to he an affront I. the House of Continuos, and sin insult ID the dignity of the Cross n.—(llear, hear!) Lord CASTLEREAGH thought the surprise is mild have been gi eater had lie conic doers with uuy proposition res pecting the Quern. %%hen lie left town yesterday, a latige melds wi re made to iiitimate to her Majesty that not only a ould her former McLane be continued, but the means :arm tit mretiag those expellees which might be inclined in tile olio is made to vindicate her character. (Hear, hear.) lie apprehended that the Noble land (timid out have la en in • 11114 fed II) her Nlaji gy the Queen to make the etiquiry, because her Nlajesty had intimated that she did 110 t Wish I.ICI/Ule Its form any consideraf at present; aid it must hr relliellibrivil taut the House could originate 1111 mea-iiie of this kind ; the Crow it must forst aid the initiative; and lieu the subject was In he onstitered. Lord A. HA MILTON complained that the Noble Loud pursued a must unfair cuaduct respecting this qui st Ali. TIERN EY obser it d, that he had speeded Slime notice anuld be token of the Queen on this occasion. the did nut expect that u perm:went r.nuugein.it would he made, but he thought the fin titer tile • a ould be continued. (Dissent from the the allowance was to be continued fur the ensuing quarter by vote of Pat liament (Hem ! front the hliiiisteis;) alai also that the Queen ini,4lll base adVallCt's Alen ass %%fluid be deemed alea'e,batry 101 i tw i t defetter.—(lleal,henr.)—lle was 11.11 , 10 y to learn so much; he Mid not month., wind to say on the subject. Atari sonic 'coati k• fauns Slr. DEN NI i% and others, llic result& for itoutinuing to the stvesal blanches of the Royal I.: It the t..inte incomes enjoyed by them at the demise of line lair King were then agreed to. Cotton*, sox EIPUNSE/1.-011 the motion that the House resolve itself auto a Committee, uialte a grill ow 419 account of the Coronation Expenses, an extended conversa (ion arose, Mr. Creevey and others submitting that the pre sent period Was not vet y favotiraltle to the celehraii ot of n Coronation ceremony ; that it would be better first to see nu ontjustment of the e 'Listing unhappy .disputes between the King and Queen ; and that if it take place now the public temper was not in a state to view it with satisfaction. The contrary was urged by other Members, and Dr. LUSHINGTON said, he apprehended that at pre sent there were circumstances of 30 peculiar a nature, both with respect to the situation of the Queen-consort, and the state of the public fulances, that Ministers them selves must believe they would best discharge their duty by advising that this ceremuny should be delayed. There was, in fact, no necessity fur a consolation at all, and he believed it would be f( ) d, un tato riug to the history of this country, that many kings had reigned for a consi derable time without having gone through that eel enmity. lf, theft, there oas no necessity for his Majesty's being crowned, it because a question whether or not, at the present 'stemma, it was expedient. His lion. friend (Mr. Creevey) had stated, that while the trial of her Majesty Was guiug on, it was improper that there should be a pub lic solemnity in which she could take no pail. In this opinion he entirely concurred; and lie also ugieed with his hon. friend in thinking that it would be imprudent to rouse and prow oke the feelings of the people of this country, at a time when they would be in a high state of excitation. He would appeal to the noble Lord himself; (Castlereagh), whether it was not impolitic to otter this additional excitement to public feeling, at a time when the noble Lord must know, from the addresses that were pi esented to her !Majesty, what the opinion of the people was respecting the treatment which she hail received ; and when he must alto know, if lie at all looke.l forward to futurity, fiat these feelings would hereafter become stronger than they were at present. lint there was still another objection which haul more weight with him than either of those to which lie had adverted—he meant the universal distress which at present pervaded the conntiy. (Hear, hear.) That distress was so real and so great, that lie would not consent to vote away a single shilling of the public money fur any purpose that was not absolutely and indispensably necessary. Let the hon. gentlemen look at their table cowered with petitions from the agricultu rists; let them reflect on the present state of all the great manufacuu Mg tow as in the kingdom—Glasgow in ruins, Leeds iii distress,and Birmingham scarcely able to support herself ; let them also look at the situation of the sister kingduni, to relieve whose commercial distresses they had a tea slights ago voted a grant of 5110,0001.; and with this picture before their eyes, was the Noble Lend to tell them that 105,0001. was a small sum ? --(Hear, hear.)—lt was not a small sum; it was a large autumn, when the Illealla of the country and the distresses of the people were taken into consideration. What would be the effect of a Cueunatioe at the present moment un the public feeling? would 1143 e in the newspapers columns 1110011 Eullllllll3 tilled with acco utile of this pompous erre mous, with gorgeous descriptions oldie Coronation rubes. and of all the splendid trappings and costly equipage displayed un the occasion , and w hru Ilse starviug indi viduals in Glasgow, Leeds, and Birmingham, should read these accounts, and learn that 1.4,0001. had thus beets spent in one day, when there was hundreds uf thou sands of individuals in those towns without any means a subsistence—what effect, under those sir stances. could such an account have hut to excite disgust and disconteut% Let the House compere the misery and sufferings of these people with the ;sump and pageantry of the proposed Coronation, and then they would see if Ministers were nut exerting themselves to aggra vate the distresses of the country. They not only neglected the public diltiess, butt were also want ing in atteetion to constitutional Komi. They were erecting additstmal borracks at the present moment at Glrsgow, at 3latschester,aud even in the metropolis; and file what purpose iiy, to keep down the dissatisfac tion of the country. Tuns, while they were taking mea sures on one b...a to suppress disconteut, they were on the other doing all iu their ;too es to excite it. If this measure were persisted in, he, ft.r one, slaufild say, that to whatever exireinities the people might go, whatever outrages they might commit, (hear, flout' Alitaistros,)—he was nut afraid to avow the sentintritt , and lest the lion. gent. should think that he might disavow it at some future period, lie would now tepee', lie believed in lies con science that whatever excesses the people might Connint, they lied been driven to them by Ministers, by their ar rogant and oppressive conduct, slid their contempt of public feeling. Did the hon. gentlemen opposite sum's* that the spit it of the country was to he fetter ed And MA. nuclei] by those voltinteers that were now raising, or that it was to be kept mown by the barracks that acre rising up in every direction? This effect might indeed be pro duced lei a shu nt time—but wily for a shunt time; fur Oleic was still spirit enough in the country to lay in the dust all the itiachinatiuter of the lion. grist. and his col leagoes.(Hear, hear.) He had thought it his duty to .taste these eciiiiments, because, on looking at the escota which had ticelliteti tor some time past, and at the which had bete adopted in consequence of those events, lit firmly believed that no bills could effectually put down disallection, licCallae he was C0113illet:11 that disaffection never existed generally ameugst a people, except it w ere the cons, (invitee of eitisgoverutuent un the pall of their t tiles s.— (Cheet s.) House aliens Aids went into a Committee, %%licit a grant of 105,0001. ou account of the C..ioliation ex pellees was moved and agreed to.— Repo at to-.our t 1111 The Mug's Beech Bill having gone thiougli a Com mittee, and the remaining cadets having h, ell ut, the itoliSe .111 . 10 , 11 nett. TL'ESUA JL LY There heiug Info ballots tired for to-day, to ti y the meths of the Grata tiatu and Cliesitr Lle.tioo Petitions, and the del:whets' to he• calltd over, the gallery oa• wit ow ct tl I'll oboist half p.t.t live o'clock. Sete, el of the Aleothet we. e ordered two t wtotly tttt defauhrr,, anattipt theni, %se wolersittail, were Lord C..stl, reagh, Setgeunt Copley, Charles Wetherall, Pcc. Ste.. sir J. WilN'lttsll t0..ve.1 the third readi g of lii& three Rills for uttering the CI leftism. Lour; She Privuie Sivalupg it. Shops ; mod the Capital Felonies Ctimmulatioa ltili, hieli nem read u third time, and after some r. is% f lin real:riling the but LA, t! u •y st rue pus,ed and us dr' ed (9 lie Linda. Lord G. Caveatli.h, Mr. I. I'. t;rint. Mr. l'emlergast, &c. w ere ordvrcd to In (110,11:1, d nu! itt I h e cuoutly of i‘t• Serge:tot at at 11111, ru pa,mrut a the fen.; a. item Mt. Srijeuot Cuolry. kr. ( For ecret;pfm.tiost o.v page )