The National Register. — London, England, 1823-05-04 00:00:00

V' . THE NATIONAL IitGISTEIt avoided. From hie soul be believed that could oaths,* been Mr. W. WYNN then proceeded to defend the eendact or the case.—(Cheers,) For his part, he rejoiced that after ministers, in the whole course of the negociationi. It had, he having used all his endeavour for 40 yearn for the establish- said, been asserted that by adoptiog at mere dignified system anent of peace, he now saw ministers resolute in maiutaining it. England would have everted the war from Spain; but be was He should not act either honestly or consistently if lie did not ready to maintain that upon every occasion it was stated to atipreve of the line of conduct they had chosen on the °ovation, France that interference with the internal affairs of the Spanish and bolding that opinion, he should sepprt them with his via action could rot be justified. He most heartily concurred in "civilians vote.-'t Cheers from the ministerial side.) the censures repressed by the gentlemen on the opposite side Mr. ROIIEKESON declared, that the country, could not be as well as by ministers on the conduct of France. He was green fl y er ec t e d by wa r, a lthough he re a nd th er e i ne oneeei. ready to admit that the invasion of Span by France was such vices naightlog felt, and as England knew she had no friend but provocation as would justify England in going to war with Spain on the contineet, the necessary support would not have the latter country, provided that war could be proved to be been withheld upon this occasion. serviceable to the interests of England ; bat be would leave it Mr. WILLIAMS said, that after all that bad bees said epos to the common sameof all who beard bins to decide upon the this question, upon both sides of the House, there was bat one fitness.of such alternstiv., under existing eireanistaeces. The consevient feeling, as to the enterprise of the French against right lies. gee!. thee adverted to the words " accursed leaner the Spanish goalies. Every man bad spoken is a lone befitting chical principle," which had eseapcd an honourable gest/emu the House of Commons. The violence and profligacy of the (Hobbouse) in the course of the debate. It was, be said, retools Goverainent having been admitted upon all bifida, the much to be regrett •d, that ear of the most admirable principles w e we l u mou m u s t be, that a stronger tone of r e emeetranoe i n at- of the British Constitutioe eboald have fallen under the coo tacking such flagrant atrocity might have been expected. The destination of any member of that House. question was now, be believed, whether the feverish quiet, Mr. 110BHOLISE said he had nut used the words as they which was called tranquillity, was worth half a year's purchase had been expounded by the tyrants of Europe.—{Hear.) er not. The hon. gentleman then began to refer to the demi- Mr. W. WYNNE proceeded. lie really thought the bon. meats before the House, to prove that the whole plea of th e gentleman bad gone further. Violent language, however, bad aegociation was mistakeo, and was just the course that was been used, and certainly cdald not be supposed to be 'Wee niest likely to fail where such a man as the King of Frame was lated to procure peace. L , _, .. • putty. Mr. LEYSTER strongly objected O4 whole conduct of The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in an eloquent the government of Frahm, who bad actually mocked at the speech defended the politics and justified the coogeet adopted declarations and authority of this country. The House iii 4 1 by the late Lord Londonderry. The right boa. gentleman also boldly and othly "preolaiseed the infamy and atrocity of sueo petered into an able defence of the late arigociations, and gave conduct, although ia soother place it bad beea defended, Ind his support to the amendment. eves attempted to I.e justified. Of the aoble peewit who hod Sir ./. MACINTOSH took a review of the whole corms of thus stool- 6" . Ass fin" of the olgin• le inolify the poet re' the e•gociations in all their bearings. Netwitbstaading the voltam heasurt say, in the language of die poet— able and eloquent speech which the House had jest beard, he ' to ' t ti e o hn w ::: a i tr ig e , leeTtbsAblattbneneghieeatiarpeteemwhile hat ,(— ( A laugh.) most declare that he was not satisfied either with the conduct Did rot a defuses of such oppressive practice" segue the want of the right boa. secretary fee foreige "Lairs, or the &them of coassion sense and common huniasityt With respell to the which had been made for him. After taking • fall review of the „ goc i attoo „ p „ the part of this coootry, h e otaar id„„ them whole negotiations, lie *oedema: them as destructive alike's( „ nothing " 4 , tie le„ the. a „pe r g a i ty of complaisance, the honour of this country and the liberties of Europe. proceeding from a lendable inteatim of preventing hostilities, Mr. PEEL defended the conduct adopted by the Govern- bat actually ca l cu l ate d to peedac. theit. .... 01 „ 3 ,. „ eel ) meat of this country. He contended that neither our honour Mr. W. WILLIAMS declarld, that be could aot masei our our interest required that we should go to war; that Prams* entioosly vote on either side. Time wee a warm which, in did not ask it ; that Spain did not require it, and, above all, his opinion the House algid to adopt on so imports* an that this country did not call for war. He contended, that the occasion. All party feeling eight to cease, and Parliament conduct adopted by his right 110 n, friend on this occasion bad s h ou ld s p ea k to . Frame the strong language of remon stranc e. gained him that best reward, the approval of his own conscience France had acknowledged principles which might be Don ated that of his country. sidcred a just cause of war, if war 'meld be thought justifiable Sir F. BURD err supported the motion for censure. at all in the present cooditios of thiegs. It might not thee be At half past one, there being a general cry for adjoarament, difficult to reconcile the Home. They might joie is as address, the debate was again adjourned till to-morrow, establishing a principle eh' h might lead to restore peace to WEDNESDAY, APRIL 30. Europe, by solemnly disapproving of the meroaohnients upon Lord CRANEOURNE moved that • copy of the report of the Spanish nation.—(Hear, hear.) the committee on the game laws be sent to the House of Lords. Lord PALMERSTON. in defending the misdeal of usisis -Ordered. tars, said, that to messes' and net to perform, would be the Mr. S. RICE (for the bon. member fir Westminste r, Sir F. coeds'st of a coward and • belly. Ali that could be does bad Burdett) moved that there be laid before the House a list of been done to prevail upon Franca to cheep liar fatal revile the guild of merchants of Dublin ; a copy of the Lord Mayor's ties. These gentlemen who opposed the sevirdations had proclamation respecting the statue of King William, and that agreed I. describing the Kings and Meister' of the 'matinee.. tbe town clerk of Dublin do attend the House on Friday sal maims as wholly destitute. of principle, and prolipte in the ationight witb the slid documents.--Ordered. . extreme. How then yield they that& of remmutrating with Mr. G. BENNET applied for leave to introduce a bill to abo- persons of such character—with them who were so ready to lish the punishment of whipping. He complained that this trmnple upon ad that should operate EA a bond between men 'I punishment was *either exemplary nor reformatory ;it produced Sir T. BLAKE strongly cousered the lies of policy adopted no good ; keel) , degraded and brutalised. He did not possess towards Spain. If he were 'Opened, be should despise all the romantic Britian that no punishment was accessary ;—but neutrality ;he should say • he who to act for as is 0„1„a the means were in existence to punish in a way that would be Mr. CANNING is • speech, the delivery of which micapied useful—hard labour. He bad been amble to had any instance nearly two boors, defended sad awake d the l i ne of ortod „ t where whipping had been useful ;it was the last remains of the adopted by Ministers. erroneous system of our ancestors, and he trusted that they Mr. BROUGHAM, at a.erly meal tenth, expressed his should get rid of such blot. According to relates, 6000 per- execrations of the Preach aggieseion, and urged that stronger sons bad been logged within the tut six years ; but he hoped language should hare hoes used by g m, I V, • gimbal in protest . that such • disgraceful mud degrodiog wide of pa e ds/meat inernef i t. ' might be abolished. He noschttled with reeving for leave to * To abreviate these speeches so as to totals the spirit of them bring in the bill. is not possible—to abreviate them withoot retaining the spirit Mr. CURW EN secioeded the "notion. would be elms Iliac usedess, Ald. C. SMITH agesidered that the punishment of whipping Mr. MACDONALD, in reply, said he was ready to yield to was not altogether so useless as bad been imagined; he bad the suggestion of his hon. sod loomed friend, Rod to agree that lumen priseoers who would rather endure twelve months ins- the amendment should stand is the foss e/ ea address, in the prisoameat than be eipoe.d to the P iranha "' Of whi PP in g' place of the original statics. (Cries of No, so; divide, The ATTORNEY GENERAL - could not agree to this divide." *weeping abolition of the punishment of whipping altogether Mr. CANNING—" After having sellheed for three long if it were found objectionable in particular oases, .they might nights, the criestaat, earemitting, unsparing, lectures of gentle be 'tried, instead of proposing the total abolition, , men opposite, for • too ready ion to th e vie ws of foreign Mr. HORHOUSE said, teat punishi n g with whipping Kw Powers, it is Dow incumbent spun us to say, that we have to disobedience to jail regulations was illegal. Where inaieted, profit by the lessee of experience which these gentlemen have it ought to result from mn the " men " ef a Court . He was aga i n st taught us, in return for our former alleged facility of coovissioo, the mode of posishmeat, as being altogether of a most degrading end to decline assenting to the proposal for withdrawing the tendency ; but decidedly that it ought to be regulated. original moths'. lam reads to admit with the hoe. gem:times Mr. N. CALVERT did not deny that such punishment re- te. that their motion is now ithinteitigitde, aid I ant eir. glared modification, but he believed that the whipping of • satisfied with the amend:neat of which they partially complain. plates boy bad sometimes "saved him from the gallows, I repeat, however, that I cannot Canter in the suggestion of die R. HERON observed, that the Paeishmeet of whipping withdrawing the original motion." (Good tamers from the lei degradedelie character, and maintained that it was not requisite. ideteriel benches.) —Me we se active ma g istrate is his own county , and he bad The gallery wasthee tilnred for a division, amid • great koown but one thetas's* where logging was indicted. poise, and ones of " Divide, divide." Mr. PEEL we against the motion. He thrioght the total After e ,..... ere were excluded,.,._ ____,..2deo, who ~... de . abolitioa of the punishment of whipping would be attended with teroethed ; 0 77 4 , divide , inorae that . "• thorn go f or th to dangerous consequences. Dr. LUSHINGTON supported the motion. He thought d th e e ct w o Wl f F d rale u e na , e n o i se l" in us a el btry to i" leas d abbletras e the house. a Stse t Ti- - . that the P ettish ' s* " 4 ‘ lllo gg in g **Pinned P rimmers°lhardmed nisterial members below the bar, however, wiled fer • division, habits, rather than reformed then,. He was disposed to be- in 004.4 . 4••••• of whioi , th e down were cloud, wed th e Oppo. lir " Milker ' dim the whipping is public schools was earned aitiun were compelled to ramie in dm home. This event was to an extent highly mischievous. Publio whipping was din hailed by the ministerial members with loud and repeated gusting and repulsive to t • feelings Or lye people ; and if sheers. The SPEAKER thee pot the question on the original whipping were eituneat within priaua weire ' ediere "la the g ee ' motion, which was carried is the negative. He next put the grantee that it would not he harshly atbeinisteredt question on the amendment--tbe ministerial members cried After seem observations from Mr. H. Gurney, Mr. Alderman " Aye :" the Opposition remained silent. The SPEAKER de- Thompoes, &s. 1 dared that the question was carried ia die Armoire. Some Mr.• G. RENNET resPliml* He wee me surprised that "".. members am the Treasury beadb,anzisee that a divisive should was met by Attotheys.teeweral and Secretaries of State, for each s tak re " i p a lam ei , w ri es sll t ed bes o eeso ut that o w ls* I, : N th or i Lhad : he t erd hs isielorithesete. who The persons Seed ever apposed the aorta to ameliorate the atrocious criminal code. Ile stood ap for the people of England against intended to vote for the amendment logo into the lobby, and . the malligr ase dMillm"'' 10wes, against subjecting the people these who meant to vote against it to remain in the haute. The of England to totter"; and Be gnaw, and th ey anew too, that Oppositioa proceeded bite the lobby, together with the miois• they evild tio longer log in public. To attempt it soldiers w tend voter ; but • few members on both sides were shut in woad be required ; for the people of England would not minor the house in consequence of the lobby being too small to con them to whip a dog as magistrate loggers desired to punish tain the ceded aneibers. This caused an appearance of a divi poisoners. But such was their desire for flogging, they would sion, when in fact there was nose. not allow him to bring in the hill for the consideration of the The "embers were announced to be as follows—For the House ' - though be might fail •t it 110---- ' 139. , and the cimet;y. He wee sure, . now. that it world not be loon before his hill triumphed. theggo istembers at this time of day bad the face to stand up and de fend logging. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw for a division. The . . anionthimet, $7ll-....ogainst it YO--majority . Upon the 'notion of Mr. Path, *Pe boos' at Me o'clock ad journed to Friday. FRIDAY, MAY 2. Mr. Quinn,. the Yeoman Usher of the Blaek'Rod, panther* were,--Cortbeseotios 37—.4ipanililf•--majority 13. BEIM Bti.t..--Tbe report or the stailieleirca Ike interme diate duty Gs beer bill vies peetposed to Mesday nest. Mr. HERRIES presented the ouluseittee's report talrith isisaelleaeoee estimates ADJOURNED DIERATE•Mrs WYNN meted the rot:implies of the adjourned debate. awned tie House to attend is the dew of Peat le bass the Royal Assent given, by Coliandeaks, to sundry bilk. Elks Lords.] The Dublin Gu Light Bill was read a seeedd time. Lord ALIHORP presented the Report of lb. Bedford and Tillwportragnell Rued. 11111. IFT7 13S Mr. CARTWRIGHT moved as amendment respea lag the distance of s turnpike. proposing that it should be it lent " two" miles from a girzn spot. The house divided on the ameaddreist.—Ayes 43—Noes 11. Mr. BRIGHT wished to ask the Solicitor-General T be was likely to bring forward his contemplated bill to amend the lo solvent Debtors' Laws I The SOLICITOR-GENERAL replied, that he had reoeived several deputations to consult him on the subject ; that he hid taken the matter into consideration ; and that is the course of a fee days be hoped he should have the opportunity a( Whs. ing in a bill oat the subject. SJUTUWAU COURT OF Reoursys.—Mr. C. CALVERT moved the second reading of the bill. Sir J. YORLE saw so vie in this bill. He could sot dis cover that a:antedated was wanted. A debt might be re covered far is. ltd.; any debt of which the Court bad wog niaseee, might be recovered at an exposes eel exceeding so pet cent. Ile concluded with moving as ad ameadment. that it be read a second time this day Ms months. Mr. DEN/SUN supported the bill. It ought to he allowed to go to a.Committee ; there were grievances that rettairwil oir rection, and the fees ought to be revised. Some affirm were mere sinecures. Mr. C. CALVERT also supported the bill. The High Bait a most respectable man, for instant*, bad nothing to de with the Coed bet to receive his quarterly allowances l and !Nit be recollected the, such profits were draws for doing *odder. where at the Southerirk Court or Requeots, the applicant party bad to pay is. lid. ; in the Tower Hamlets the fee wis osily ltd. The bill ought to be alltivred to go to a Committee. Sir J. GRAHAM spoke of the respectability et the several officers, end declared that they had vested Wiriest. in Noir offices—nut vested interests derived from aisles, bat forawited On the faith of an sot of Parliedient. Mr. LAM BTON said, that the 'sliding Court was preside. tire of much injury. The (raisers might have vested interesta. bet there was mother party who had a vested Waned, eessely, . the public, that justice should be adusioistered. Mr. H. SUMNER had hoped that the bill wadi have hiss witiohawn for the present Session. Mr.V: BENNE! supported the bill. The fees were 149 M. for recovering sass not ameentieg to gonads ; mod there were gentlemen who could stand up in that House sad resist the correetioa of such abuses. The bill was to resist tie itheethsras of the law. The gallery was cleared for a division. The esaleere were —Ayes 114, Noes 2. Mopirity in favour of the second seed ing 112. Mr. BYNG presented a petition from St. Mary'sgifiliegton. spinet the Loadoe Sewers' 'ill.--Ordered to lie entire table. Mr. CALCRAFT complained that his nodes fir tie repeeta the Leather Tax had bees in his abeseee Amid fir May B. on an order day, whereby the impression would be created that he oared little about the fate of the modest. The eestrary was the fact ; and as it had been so 'bred, he frosted that the Chan cellor of the Exchequer would in courtesy *NOW his Mlles to take precedence of the public cyders on the 9th Mit. ADDRESS TO HIS MAJESTY.—Mr. CANNING appeared at• the bar, with his Majesty'. answer to the Address of the House respecting the recent 'revelations with Preece, Ac.; bis Ma jesty thanking his faithful Cosmoss for their loyal mid dutiful address. Mr. RUMBOLD presented a petition from Greet Yarmouth. against the continuance of the coal deties.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. SCARLETT gave node.' that, on Tuesday nest, be should bring forward a MIAMI relative to the Calmly Baader' of Lancaster. Duette Tams.- Mr. ELLIS said, as affidavit bad Wire ineetineed by Mr. Plunkett, that the Jury bad been arranged es to i its being •• pecked" • he wished to ask whether then wocld be any objection to prodeee sash eadavit. Mr. PLUNKETT replied, tint be 'Meld give Do seek all devlt—he did not conceive he was bound to de so: He re. ceived lafermatioe from a private gamier, and he was sew MBlOlll to give up the name of his informer. He cortsiely shield lee osre to provide the hoe. hart. with the names of thrum ohs were likely to elucidate the facts. More be thawed wield aol be required of him. Mr. BROWN LOW said, the motion of the affidavit had predeoed eoesiderable impression ; he wished to know whether it had khan... Mr. G. BENNE7 observed, that if it were a private deem. meet, it had been made a public use of. Mr. PLUNKETT added, that the derailment bad eothiescot a public character abut it. It was imparted to him is his ell. chit ebaricter, and be was met at liberty to divulge the same et the party. As to the question from the boo. moseber for Am 'nigh, he could hardly tell whether it would be put seriously or not : be did not feel it necessary to make any further now munieation on the subject of the affidavit. Mr. GOULUURN presented a petition from Mr. Stemmas arid another, prayiug for the repeal of the Goal ditties. Mr. HUME said, great satisfaction would be give, le the , whole country by the repeal ; and it could be done; If the Chancellor of the Exchequer would only take as me ; . trees his Slaking Feed, and he seemed half inclined to agree to the re peal. Colonel BAGWELL said, the repeal of the soul duty weeld be of incalculable advantage to she laboariag classes gal Ire laud. Patitioa ordered to be printed. Mr. GOUL BURN presented a petition fruit threesomes et Cork, fur an increased remuneration. Mr. HUME thod,thl further remuneration we. oeireeessery. as whew there were airy vaoseeirm there were plenty of *- dates. . lathe TRIALS.—Mr. RICE moved for various ether wk. assess to attend on the approaching enquiry. Mr.FLUNKE I T said he had beta accused of epilog le ea seprecidented ateeeer. A Mr. Foley, an attorney, had rived '• that • mintiest information was filed wvaiast a Feriae named Leach, Itir oferieg a heilteteß public :tither, in tall, by Searle, his predecease,. afirkthe.stiard jury had twice WNW the bill,. a Motion agreed to and witnesses ordered. • SHERIPF OF DV 01114.—INC/DIRY.-1411. Is the evesing, after eight o'clock, Sir F. BURDEIT moved that the order of the day for the House to go into a oeseasutei to require ante Sherill Thorpe's conduct be read. It was amierditegly relit, The Hesse then weld into a calamities. Sir R. Heren - (id the absence of Mr. Brogden) took the chair. The first witness *ailed was the Clerk of the Crewe, Dahlia. It was with considerable difficulty that he was 'hard la the gal lery. The witness under*eat a beg eamniention by variesa niembers; a majority of his answer. however were inaeditt• in the gallery. tio far as we could ceilleet them. they weal to show, that the Joey bed, on this ocrAsioe, Imes appointed ta the usual way. Mr. BROUGHAM put seven, quistioes as to the several ( For .01114401160 s sea pip la., ...... ••..' • I -