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...• ... 154 3 Invert/II Varltattt HOUSE OE LORDS. MONDAY ' MAY ii. The Earl of LAUDERDALE presented a petition from Hull against the timber minks bill. The Karl of LAUDERDALE rose previous to going into committee ou the Grampound Disfratichisement hill, and repeated his objections to it. He could not bring his mind to believe it was a measure founded in justice. It would not be just to penis!, men for no crime whatever. It was clear several of the Gralegmomml voters had com mitted no offence. The solde wad bad heard much of parliamentary reform. Heat one time was a parliamentary reformer, but the ..meat he changeable opinion on that subject, he basems • Won advents against that ques tion. He graamet Lend M avow his orioles. He was ennwiesed the romsdisersermad were ant Weakliest so tito mile owl comMeded by mommillee be ap p pointed to Mau est of theirdlit; 110010 of dile ewer and eiderilme of the pro esb of Isempeemda dor die pospostof disderniebbig 11 6 14, the mews edam who bad bee4lllrweed guilty of The LORD CHANCELLOR pet lias The Earl eirCARN A RYON dolliMied Me paws. es whisk we MS es brought in. The pessellia iterplised Is be pure end immetwat were the 'web= ettlisse who hell bees guilty datm' practices. as expressed a that the hems would set p lees wit Inquiry tibial answer no seer purrs!! than to lose the bill. • The LORD CHANCELLOR was decidedly of spiels, that no measure was so dangerous as measures of partial reform. It had ever appeared to him to be viokace In the laws of the constitution to take away front innocent men the right of voting—not because they had committed any offence themselves, but because others had bees guilty. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, the motion was made to defeat the bill. The only combos was. whether they could see enough in the principle of the bill to go into a committee? The bill bad been called • bill of pains and penalties. It certainly deprived &body of men of their rights and privileges. bat the gelation was, what were those eights and privileges? He did not support the principle of the bill became he was a reformer, het be cause be was against sweeping reform. He tho ught; the best way of reforming abases was to prevent and cheek them, when they were clearly proved to exist. If ever there was a case made out. it was the case made whist the borough efOrampeand, whose very peas were milk to depend on corruption. The noble earl supported so bill, sad expressed his readiness to go into timeammillee. Earl BATHURST opposed the bill. Is &NO., it they took upon themselves to transfer a great and im portant right from one body if persons to another. 'All this opened a door to partiality aad favour, and sets. Wished parliamentary jobbing. He considered it a moat doornails measure. • Lord REDESDALE objected to the .sawn, on the pound that it laid down a precedent for parliament to say wits aboold, or sot, be simian. It was adopting a prie d* toothsome to the conelados. After some further comeereation between the Marquis of liAnadowao and Earl Belberst, Lord Lauderdale's Imo• Non was moralised without • division. Visas* SIDMOUTH rose as the question for going into the committee, and to it. TM Mos,* of LANSD ltilli nN ei r observed, that opposition to the committee had ode& contrary to ex pectation. Had it bees genereßy Mom* OK Ike qnsatiom of going into a committee would bas pedaled a dimes. pion, at least twelve lords, them .home, would have has. hi the boom The noble marquis moved, that the order of the day_ far pin bee • seentmittoe on the bill be pose. potted to Morkfty. After a few observations futon the Lord Chancellor and the Earl of Westmorland, the motion was agreed to, and the house adjourned. TUESDAY, MAY IS. 'The house met in a committees, privileges on the claims to the Strathmore Peerage and estates is England and Scot land. After witnesses had bees heard, farther proceediags were postponed to Tuesday meat. The Endo( DERBY preseMed•petitioe from the master rope-makers. and others, at Liverpool, praying for some legislative measures which may have the effector abolishing certain new machines for making ropes and cordage. The noble earl observed. that be did -not concur in the opinion expressed by the petitionen, that machinery was injurious to their Interests; but at the same time be considered it his duty to lay the petition before the house. It was accord. ingly read and laid on the table. The Earl of LIMERICK moved for several reports of time titmice committee on the expeaditare of Ireland.— ordered. Viscount MELVILLE gave notice of his intentioe to move to-morrow the seco nd reeding of the Scotch court of semions bill, and soother bill.—Adjourned. WBONZSDAY, NAT 16. TN, MARL Or Jaassr 0. 111111TIli• The Judges encoded the House, soon after ore n'aNIL to deliver their opinions in the a bove appeal from the Cush of Commune Pkas. The question was, whether the noble plaintiff had a right of re.eatry upon premises, fifteen days after rent remained ummpoid. The Lords had to decide whether, upon the legal construction of a lease, the plaintiff could claim the right cooteuded for. After several Judges had spoken, bertha. proceedings were postponed to Friday. The bills oe the table were severally forwarded, and the home adjourned. 1111111IDAY. NAY 17. = nes howl in the Mouldsworth Peerage, and Whir q this day week. The NM of N moved the ascend madingd the Id& Comm ofluelse era Bill, which was soserdingly mod imi u mmumiwid for shmorrow. of LANSDOWNE mewed tbe wise 'fibs day far tbs =waft of the Owl Voss Abolition Bill. and pits litssiing Prim* in temps Asaradmemt Bill. The Noble mar vie sowed that Ms deem of those bias wee to aselmiline the kw st ledead to that of England. Both were reed thereemel tins. The Irish Banluupt Laws Bill was seed a snood times The Juron atteadance at the Mises Sill was mameitted and repelled without amendment. The hems that adjourned. Values, SAY lip 'line judges attended the house, and delivered their opinion us the appeal Smith v. Lord Jerseys after which the judgment of the lower courts was reseised. Mo. Irving, from the Customs. presented an account of the Mines jemmied floes to MO, pursuant to an tot der of the house. Lotd KENYON presented a petition from certain ,• THE NATIONAL REGISTER lobabitaats of Maar.!ester eplßet. MlL—Laid ea the table. Ate hills oe the table were forwarded ie theft respec tive Stages. lats. STATIONERY, dle.—The Earl of DARNLEY el sorted to papers laid on the tattle relating N the supply of stationery to the government offices I. Imbeds the report ou the subject was volnariaoss, bat dors alelreileb• ter in it worthy the 'Meador' of the hoes, ; the sale earl therefore gave bode', that he should admit a maw is Monday, the 4th of Jane. It was also his iotsaeioa the same day to sake a notion es the subject of the pane expenditure. Tirana DUTIES Ilan..—On the suggestioe of the Earl of LAUDERDALE, she debate expected es the timber duties hilt, which mod foe soefestd reatlieg this day, wire postpoupd, with the atassut of Earl Bathurst, to Tuesday, when the NY is to lob eowstaltbsi. The how wow iota a estamitmoss due Irish Gaol Foos bill, vada t wish a few verbal assadossals, was agreed to atid_repsefed. Made lardshigs dies adiserwed So Masety. the Mmthutu Sh'eets NOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, MAY 14. Mr. S. C. WbiNweed, Sir R. Wibon, Mr. Denison, Sr W. de Creepier/OCW. Lambkin, severally presented petitions from iffilividnols against the Newington Select Vestry bill, compinining of their mums baring been sur reptitiously obnimid is support of such ateasnro, and praying to ham emir names withdrawn front the petition for such hill....itendomsd ordered to lie on the table. Mr. LENNAKD brought in the Ipswich gas light bill. The Manchester market hill was read a third tinte and passed. ThiTtihrevrehery paving, lighting, sad watching bill was read a third time end passed. Mr H. SUMNEIt presented a petition from John Cunt. toe, the solicitor to the select vestry for Newhigtua, stating, that there had heretofore been most disorderly proceedings in conductiug the parish affairs. It also stated, that meet improper persons bad, in cossequeacei beets selected to ill the parish offices. Sayste.—Lord LONDON DERRY moved, that the beam go into a committee of supply. Str.l. NEWPORT hoped, if the business respecting the Boats of Imbed were to be brought on at all, that it should be boauglet forward at as early boor. The MAMMA— LOH of the EXCHEQUER, In reply, adiekmd die adeemie of bringing this question forward es te ltel weal lutes comedttee or supply. 'Mr. IL W ARID besought forward • resoletioa, previously peemmed, lee 44,11r111. ler er defraying tbe expeaces of the elks Mmeastmagaseral as ofilame. Mr. HUME complained of there bawls' been 17 sew officers recently appeiated. Mr. WARD replied, that they were sot very recent appointments. Only 171 bad been appointed by Use noble dohs (Weillagem)i most of the eases had been named in She reedereentime of once, preeinady to the appoint ment of tbe web* drake. OM DAVIES wished to have me doubt cleared Bp— wheelie' Mimed, Melba several depailemate bad the pa tronage of WAS _idiom mid decks nadir them? Mr. WABamplakied Me mode or strangles the °a mmo depaillaset. The master-geseral was assisted by a beard, and the forme did not interfere with the ap polatemativer the latter. Col. DAVIES thought the ezplaeatioa made the matter tea theesemil times worse ; in the department there was only me several line of egad et. According to the statement, the esester-generai, ter Noble duke, was a mere puppet, the boa. member mod his &Meshed the appoint ments and patronage, while the noble duke had all the blame sad repeasibility.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. WARD repßed,that he hardly knew where he was, or where Maim. Member could have been. Surely the gallant officer amid neither have heard their debates, or read ary of there reports I otherwise be must have known the. satire of the patronage and appointments. Mr. BIRCH observed, that after so long • period of peace we wild to have approached nearer to peace este- Ghettoes*. Bur an extravagant expenditure was conti nued. While the expenditure of other comities was redneed, outs was persevered in; it was, for instance, 6,000,00°1. beyond that of France. The parlous of our system were resisted as they were brought forward, but such redeems was called " petty warfare t" lie, how ever should like to know what sort of warfare was likely to be successful, or what warfare would not be called petty. He should like to know, fir instance, what the corresponding clerks, who mat ee& a year, had to do t Mr. HUME observed, that he bad in a forme Measles inmost toles understood that Mee the war there bed bees II yams Introduced ions the deperhasat, *idle there elm peeler ea half pay. WM he emMeaded was. that them appointment Maid have bees made hem the half Upay r and that dello wield have predmed upwards of 7,1401 Amin. If ibess were se better mesas Mem what had beau urged urge& he thought the amities meet admit Milmmessity of seen Amp in eswiwillas the oedemata department. if the ineenefiMetal bad m little empire* if he were to rare. Me assns of time mile bias, and if be MI art ma an appoialuisat, did mat seek a systems offer ramie= en sopeentimediem t Tboy wen likely to be recomempeded ea light greaut‘ead She. Mere were tratmeies to be 111 Mil by tb• Madge the deponent* under Um melmagmeng. Ms malatained that there meet le be a mimed.. Se the Meat of I* per mat. mid he oeseinded Mb omits, • reeelothee te limet effect, mak. as Mee me RUIN. Oa win eisioadienat Oa us s dleided.--For the ameadimat,7d--Agehmt It, 144-411qiefity As the edgiest I Plektiilll4 OS. On eft return to the gallery we Meld lbs hoes* still he toomisme, and the chairman putting MIN ether resole , twos, which were agreed to without say observation. Oe the resolution being put for granting the sem of el,lttel. le. 44. fir the civil departeneats of the ordnance he Waelwieb, Chadians, Portanseetli, Plymouth, aid Ommoy. Mr. HUME said, that the whole of the establlshamets in the different out-ports were enurely tau large. With the view of redeciug them he should more that 2b per cent. be deducted (run. the sum proposed, sud that in _teed u(20,1631. Ss. 4d. the seem should be 15,1721. 175.6 d. oii this amendment the committee divided—For the emeadment,6l--Agemst it, 110—Majority, 87. The huger thew resumed : Use report was brought up, ordered to be received tomorrow, and to be taboo into Wilber eeissideiatiou un Wednesday nest. • ♦ ♦ ~, 111.111•1111 AT. env IS. IShwousons XVINTII.—Mr. BENNETT presented • pinkies from James Leee, the brother of Lees who died In emosequeneo of wooads he received en the fatal lab of 1, at Monebooter, praying for bigotry and redress. and ordered to lie en the table. 17ir. Mamma WOOD presented seven similar pea. Bees; the that wig front a female who bad bees dreadfully grenade'. in that day. They particularly (observed the hen. member) complained of the cavalry. bat spoke weU of the conduct of the regular troops. They also prayed for inquiry and redress. Mr. HOBHOUSE presented a petition from an ladle;. dud who had been assanited and wounded at Manchester mesiy —same', Ikea Thomas Kelly, who was.aftererards int eleven weeks without soy charge whatsoever exhibited against him. Kr. HOBHOUSE then presented petitions from Henry Thompson, of Bollowle.woors • William Barnes, who w on attacked at Wee o'clock is the evening by the cavalry; Usk Ashworth; Elisabeth Neltd, who was ridden over; David Dawson, the father of Dawson, of some place in Yorkshire, who bad been cut down, and who had been taught to believe that there was se wrong without a re- Lord MILTON bore testimony to the artless and made. signing character of this petitioner. Petitions read, and ordered to he printed. Mr. HOBHOUSE then presented a petition hose a person who, he said, had obtained a melancholy notoriety iu the country, and, lie was sorry to say, also in that house —he meant William Ogden, (Hear.) He bad received two sabre wounds. Mr. HOBHOLISE next presented petitions from three females, and several other individuals, all of whom bad been wounded.— He also presented a petition from Samuel Melor, who had been violently wounded. Petitions read, and ordered to be printed. Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW presented petitions against the usury laws from the bankers, die. of the West Biding of Yorkshire, of Swindon, Am.—Bead, and ordered to be printed. Mr. HARBORD, without wishing to anticipate the boo. baronet's statements, which doubtless would be de. scribed with ability and proper feeling, could not but advert to the trausactions of the fatal day at Manchester. The meeting of the 7th of August was objected to, but that glebe 16th was aft complained of previously to its taking ee r= d oldsoi e r d oops were not brought to Mo . sod in ambush, there was no reuses to Ism*. that it wield be so violently interrupted. He ceedmased the Issuing of the warrant against Mr. Hen 4 sad the mode of executing it, which was not by the proper authorities, but by • political soldiery. (Hear, bear.) The magistrates bad doubts, Nor was the Wallet without them; sad it was palatal to know that a elergy alma bad takes a conspicuous part is the trasweetioas of that day—and who bad since that time obtained prefer ment I. the church, doubtless for his virtues sad temps. rause. Hear, bear.) As to the events of that day, he teufwtd that since them, particularly siege Use Oldham =9'he bad trembled for the personal liberty of Rog. sod fee the canary% character for eves.kauded Justice. He believed that the riot set was reed, bet is sash way that nobody beard it. He believed there was so way of obtalaing redress hat through the medium of inquiry at the bar of that home. Sergeant ONSLOW would net anticipate the debate, but he could sot suffer to pass, without reprobation, the calling the description of coestitatioaal force, the yee manry, a political soldiery. As to the allusion to the Kee. Mr. Hay, be observed that Use prefermeat came from a distinguished prelate, and had been promised two years ago. (Hear, hear.), Lord MILTON observed, that the yeomanry of Eag. land bad not been alluded to, but those of Manchester.— (Hear.)—As to the Beteg, had sot an arrangement bees wade with the prelate to give this living to fir. Hay, co condition of having one in the gift of the goverameet in return? Mr. HARROW added. that he had heard the state. meet, and from sae of Mr. Hay's Meads. This petition wed two ethers brought up were read. Mr. F. PALMER pressetod a polities free 1). Ellis, complaining of the preseedisage at Iliwasbater. Mr. COKE promoted similar polities, from lahabibusts of Middleton, who had bees cut dews with sabres. Mr. S. C. WHITBREAD presented petitions frees Jae. Boothey,/to. of the proceedings of the co. 'airy, of weendiag the rs. die. Mr. LENNARD ales petitions frees Elisabeth Tay, an mien, was had bees trampled upon and cut with a sabre at lesselsester.—Read,esd ordered to be rioted. Sir IL WILSON said, he had 111 petitieas tie the same midget. (A Isa&) He thought it was so laughable =Misr. (Mear,fter.) Niue of the petitions were from wawa; all had Wee eat dews, or trampled epos. Others wen *ma Joseph Ames, Joseph Madan, Used. Johasee, Wiliam Cheetbus,(whe had bees severely emended, who spoke of the osadeet of Lord litaaley, he.) They prayed for inquiry mid redress, as the saly mesas of restoring callidease la the laws.—He desired Cbeetham's peados to he partmularly reed, as the petitioner was severely used by the "cowardly trumpeter," sad es it spoke of Lord tot=as a magistrate. STANLEY admitted, that be had been forename of the greedier: He did betas( to the troop, as did the Wiliam; mid he owned be had expressed his regret to see the r in the &Bathos In which lie was placed befits Ibe jury. But be had not laughed at the petitioner, unseated him with eestempt.—Petitleas ordered to be rioted. The ether petitions were from Joseph Brierly, Margaret Raab, Asa Whitaker, Elizabeth. Isabella, and Helen Hardy (three sisters), Mary Peel, dtc.—Read and ordered to be printed. Sir H. WILSON them presented a petition from Robert Taylor White, who complained of a persecution soder the law—if law coals, be applied to such • transaction as be described. Several other petitions were presented, with similar prayers. hi • NCH IST IR BVIII N ass.—Sir F. BURDETT thee rose to bring forward Ins promised motion. is doing so, the hen. baronet entered into as aniusated and suipmsive detail of the calamitous events of the 16th of August, 1819.—i0hie ' advantage he mistataseed, lied been el/missed by delaythey bad now procured the amplest and tire must temperate se. • counts of the mats of that fatal day. But It was aglietieg to know that all these &tenants tended to 'hew the emote. • rated, the groundless, he might say, the false stalemate test The ether seders of the duty were that dier mad .t aad ti. bees. adieerred. TILIMBIDAT. ■IT IS.