The National Register. — London, England, 1820-08-27 00:00:00

Who gave you money at Vienna to go to Milan ?...My father paid for my juurney. Who gave you money at Milan ?...No one gave me when I arrived there. Mr. Brougham said, in any ordinary case, before a Jury, after such answers as this witness 1:.t1 given, he should ask no further questions. Ile should follow the same course in the present instarce, and not trouble their Lordships with any. About this tim• the heat of drums was heard; which announced the arrival of the Queen. RE-77XAMINATION. The Solicimr-Geneml asked, was dot the witness aware that the object of his aiming to this country was to be examined as a witness ?...Yes. When he went to Vienna, did he receive any money ?...Yes. Before he left Milan ?...Yes. For what purpose ?...For travel, to make a journey. Did he receive any money before that to make a journey ?... Quest° non wet ricordo. [From one of the Lords.] What did he mean by " Qncsto non sal ricordo? Answer (with emphasis)'. I mean it is not in my head that I received money. 111 received it I would bay, Yes ; I do nor recollect now. When her Royal Highness was at Naples, were there sot two doors from the room where you slept communicatins with the cabinet ?...Yes, in the cabinet there was a door leading to the room of Bergami. Was there not another door in Tlergami's room ?...There was. Where did that door open into ?...It communicated with the dining mom of the Princess. Did it communicate with it direct ?...There was a corridor between. These was a first dining room, then a small corridor and then Bergami's room. Was that the room in which her Royal Highness usually dined ?...Yes. Do you remember Schiavini ?...Y es. What situation did he hold in her Royal Highness's service? ...That of Equerry. Had he the general management of the household ?...Non mf ricordo ! Lord Ellenborough...How was her Royal Highness dressed when she passed throtialt the cabinet to Bergami'broom, when at Naples I...Nonmi ricordo. Earl Grey... Could you see her Royal Ilighness distinctly ?... Yes. But do not know how she was dressed ?...No, I do not know what dress she wore. Were you in bed ?...Yes. Did her Royal Highness look at you ?...Yes. Were you asleep at the time?...As 1 sleep now. Did you pretend to be asleep ?...Yes, but so that one could see a person. Did her Royal Highness think you asleep ?...Yeer. The Queen now withdrew, at half past twelve o'clock. Lord Oxfonla.When was it that he saw the Princess and Ber gami together in the cabin (dunng the bath scene) ?...When the bath was ready, Bergami went up stairs, brotight down her Royal Highness, and both went into the room together. and Berganti shut the door after him. Lord Duncan... Can he swear that none of the Princess's fe male attendants were in the bath whit the Princess ?...This I can swear, that I saw nobody in her room. Were you actually in the room, or were you only at the door of the bath room, or the door of the inner room ?...I was at the door when Bergami went up stairs to tell her Royal Ilighness that the bath was ready. Bergami told me to remain there in case of more water being needed. Was it at the outer or the inner door ?...At the door of die bath. room. Will he swear there was nobody with the Princess but Ber gami?...l can and do swear, that Bergami and her Royal High ness were in the room. From several of their Lordships..." That is not an answer." Lord Anson—Did the witness go into the room to get the pails, or only took them from the door ?...I only took them from the door: I did not go in. The examination of 111ajocci being concluded at five minutes before two o'clock, he was ordered to withdraw. The second witness called was Gaetano Paturzo. Before he was allowed to be sworn, Mr. Mittman wished to know of what religion was the witness? ...Answer A Catholic. When we; he last at Sacrament ? The l.ord Chancellor objected to the question. Mr. Denman wished the question to be put, as, accordingly to the Liturgy of the Religion which the witness professed, no oath was binding unless it was taken withiu a certain time after receiving the Sacrament. The Lord Chancellor over ruled the objection; and the witness having been sworn, the Attorney General rising to examine him, he was requested by the Lord Chancellor to raise his voice, so that every Noble Lord might hear him. Attorney General to witness... What countryman are you ?... I am a native of Naples. What is your occupation ?...I am a Captain on board a user chasittnan. Do you remember the Princess of Wales coming on board that vessel at Atiguhta?...Yes, I do. Where did you sail wilco you left Augusta ?...For Tunis, but not having sufficient water, we put into Gusjerdi, towards Tunis. Do you recollect any of the persons of her Royal Highness's suite were on board ?...Yes, almost all of them. alention them ?...Bergami, Seine ini, William Austin, Car. Mi, the cock Francis, the ('ountes Oldi, Theodore Nltijocei, the two maids Dumont Brunette, and a small girl, a little child called V ictorine. When you first sailed from Augusta to Tunis, what was the situation of the cabin of the Princess and the Countess of Oh.li ? ...The usual cabin was divided into two parts; on the part on the right hand was the bed of the Princess, and on the leftthat of Counters Oldi. Where did you go after leaving Tunis ?...To VS here did Beigaini sleep during the voyage R...11is bed was removed to the right hand of the dining-prom. Examination continued.---When at Jermalem was present at the catremuny of making Berganti, Austin, and Schiavini, Knights of St. Sepulchre. Returned before the Princess from Jerusalem to Jaffa ; embarked at Jaffa, after which a tent was erected on the deck of the vessel. This tent was closed at night. It had a sofa and small bed in it, which were at a little distance trout each other. Has assisted at closing the tent, on which lkr • anii, the l'rincess, and somebody else were in it. Does not know who remained during the night. Has seen the Princess and Bergami walking together on the deck, arm in ann ; Ber gaini lying on his back in his bed, and the Princess sitting near it, but when this happened, the Captain always sent the witness away, on sonic one pretence or ;mother. Ilas seen the Princeas sitting on the lap of Bergauti with her arm round his neck, and Bergioni's arm round her waist. On St. Byrtholoniew's-day, during the voyage, there was general mirth. In the evening, the ship was Lillurninated : liquor to drink, and a dollar each, was given by Bergami to the sailors; theme was a dance, with exclamations of.•-" Long live the nit:eel's !"---" lame live the Chevalier !" When Bergstni came on heard at Jan.,, lie wore te new Order, called the St. Caroline. Time AttornesaGeneral said, dial he had no n:orc questions to ask of this witness. Gaetano Paturzo ctosb-examined by Mr. Denman.—As a compensation for the ship end trade which he give. tip for coming over here, he was to have eV/I-hundred dnlla v pet mouth. '1 he average of the t:ollarb aas tour shillings and lure ~ -pence. He paid nothing, for he was accontpanied by a cautiei. He was THE NATIONAL. REGISTER examined in London before he same to the place in which he now was, but he was not sworn. Examined by Earl Grey.... There were sometime ln or 11 on the deck during the night ; in bad weather all of them were there. They walked backwards and forwards: the tent occupied about one half of the middle of the ship. One one side where the tent was, there was a passage ; the men could pass there. They passed the tent when the service of the ship reqvired it. There was a place by which the parties could withdraw from the tent without coming on deck. Other persons could see the patties when they went to get fresh air. Theodore had a place assigned to him below, and if he heard what took place in the tent, he must have heard through the two tents. The Lord thane:llor said,that as five o'clre.•.k had now arrived he should move the adjournment of the House. Previously to the adjournment, he wished to state that he consulted the sourc e of information, and found that prosecutions for perjury &gains witnesses miAlit be maintained. Adjourned. THURSDAY, ALGUsT 24. At ten o'clock the LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack, and prayers having been read, the roll of mimes was called user. The Marquis Wellesley was excused on account of in disp osi t s. At a quarter past ten Counsel were called in. Lord DARNLEY a.-ked, whether the witnesses who had been examined were suffered to associate with those who had not ?—No answer was retained to this question. A very long argument then took place on the subject of the manner of swearing the foreign witnesses, hut the Lord Chancellor hold that if swim according to our cus tom, and they declared they consideled it as binding it was sufficient. Vincenzo Gartpdlo was then called and sworn.—He had been Captain of the vessel in which the Prillt:VSS roniled, hot in his evidence and cross•rxionination nothing new trans!theil. but that lie was to receive One Thouscod Dollars per ,lhailk for his giving evidence against the Queen ! Mr. BIZOUG HA NI then ariid he had to leg their Lord ships to allow• hint to call hack the witness Theodore M it joeci. Ile wished to ask hint whether he bad been at Bristol within the last twelve months? _ The Earl of LIIERPOOL said, it would be necessary the Learned Counsel should state the object he had in calling the witness bark. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, it was irregular to call back a witness without some special reason was stated for his re-examination. He did not, however, object to the witness being called for the purpose stated. Mr. BROUGHAM wedged himself he would not call the %Rol ss again, or ask him any questions until lie re- opened his case. The williess was then brought to the Bar. Ile appeared rather intimidated. The Interpreter, addressing the House, said—He begs to ask a favour of your Lordships, to know if they find any thing false in his information, whether they will have his life— take off his head ? A cry from several Lords of " No, no !" Mr. Brougham then put the following questions : Was the witness at Bristol in the course of last year?— He did mot know the mime. Was you at Glocester, in the service of a Gentleman named Hyatt ?—lies. Did you ever declare to any person that the Princess of Wales was a most excellent woman 2—Yes, I said the Princess was a good woman. Did you deckire the conduct of the Princess was highly becoming ?—I always said she was a good woman, but she was surrounded by hail persons. Did you ever say she was r prudent person, and that you never observed any thing improper iu her conduct ? I do not remember that I said so. Did you say she always behaved herself with propriety? ' —That I never said. Do you remember Mr. Hughes at Gloucester or Biistol? —I do not remember the name. Did you know a Clerk to a Bankers', Mess', Tutncr of Gloucester 1-1 have never - heard the name. - Have you had no conversation with any clerk at Glou cester ?—I do hot recollect. Did you ever complain to any person at Gloucester that Bergami 6ao kei., oack pa. t o your wages?—Yes. To alum did you snake these complaiuts of Bet gaini ? --I cannot precisely tell. I was asked when I quitted the service of the Princess, and answered them when, and then I remember stating that Bergami wished to 101%C.1 my wages. Did you ever say any thing about Bergami to any person but Mr. llughes?--I do not tecoliect I did. Do you know Mrs. Adams, Mrs. Hay utt's mother 3—Yes. Do you remember Mrs. I loglies, Mrs. A rheas housekeept r? —1 remember the a °man who kept the house. Ilad she a son a elm k in a Banking-house I—l remember the son Caine to pay a visit to his mutat r, but I do not know whether vv as in a bank. Did you ever tell that son of the circumstances resi.eeting Bergausi and the w .44..1 —I do not is number.. Did you ever reties nt to this yining inau that the Print ass of Wales was au excellent auniam, t. pi edeht woman, mad Shot you had never seen any thing snip oiler in her conduct —He did mot recollect. Did you ever represent to this young man, the son of the homekeeper, that the Pi ineess, s o r a y O s you had treat always behaved in u t viewer Mailuer 1-11 e did lint recollect. Did you ever travel in a sitter conch between Gloucester and Bristol, or beta een Glouc ester and soother place 1— remember riding in is coach a hen l came to London. Did you ever Make a journey front any other plate than from Gloucester to Lonoon ?—lie stereo' did. Were you ever asked, by a gentleman in a stage Mich, with respect to the deportment of the Pa incest while you acre in her bet vire 1-11 e did not remember. .Uid you ever represent her in u stage Load' as behaving hersrll prudently 3—He did not. Did you septesent her as a much injured woman 3—He did not. In a stage-coach did you represent that you had b reo applied to sacra against her Royal II ss the Princess of Vs ults 1— W hat I remember is, that I have never spoken of these iiiiugs. 1 CailliOt Ulllteil,tanit the inwstion. Did you ever say its an) hod) in •0u had been asked to WC NO account respecting the Ptillevss tit 1% ales on 0 The th.hicilm-Geotel at interposed, at:a ehtei ved that the exanititai nuts at the bin Ni re to he t outtur tett oil the rules of of the I •tutii JN.•tice. ilia Leal aro El lead according to Iho•r ruts, ought In pas culart ze the inane ut the peraun a Ith a hum the t tmveir.ao iota Whb held. Sir. bioitgliaru contended, that he N ay Nithin the rules of ler at 1.1:1‘114 • Alt. r vb tit set from the Lord Chancellor, the eaatioustmu MUM couttaucti. 275 Did Die n ithess sty to Mr. Johnson, iu a stage coach, had been d to and asked to appear as a witness against her Royal Di:Ones% the Princess •f Wales ?—I swear L did not, and I do not know the mune of this man. Did you eve, say 1 have had advantages otf, red one if I nould be a waness against the Princess of Wales?—Them offers liaise never been made to me. Did you never ,ny that great 4 !fen had teen made to you' I never had great offers made to we. [Mach CtinfliSioil was produced in the Ilow , e by the ripe liIIOIIS of this question, and the vi itiless repeated his replies in a host, and impassioned manner.] Ile even' (rally replied, ait6 agitat •t 1 earne,ln ss, I wilt 1.13 duwn my I,fc if I .aver said WI. Ag iin, I will lay mv head, wbi h means life, if ever I made such discourse. I never made discourse about giving evidence agaitst the Princess of Wales on oath. (These questions were repeal.3l dst much buzzing, followed by cries of order, but they product d sdnilar maw els.] Did 3nu ever bit) to Johnson, in a stare conch, that gait had been off t. offered money, or a plus c un , er Gov , mw e, ' for giviol evidence against the Princess of W an 3 w here? —lf I dan't know even the name of Johnson, how could I hate such conversation ? The witness , , on the question bein4 repeated, became considerably enraged and very gesticulatory ; said , you ask tuc things of tt inch I know• cothio t •,—ot ` vvhuch I ile,er dreamt—and I will &tomer no more questions. confuNio,;.) had you ever any couversation in a sta4e conch about her It tyal Highness ?—1 never spoke about the its diligence. Did you ever speak about the Princess in any journey, or at an inn , iii England?—Never about the k'rincess of Wiles. - _ I never meddled aWI these discourses. Never. How long were you in England the first time yon came rivet ? One night. By the Solicitor General—Did yon come from Vienna to this country as the hired servant of 'Air. Hyatt ?—lt was he that brought me here. He paid the fare. By Lord F.llenborougl , .—ln speaking the Prince. , a as a prudent woman, did the witness speak of her as his mistress, or as the Princess of Wales?—Had I spoken otherwise of the Princess they would have knocked me down.—(A laugh.) A Peer observed, on the interpretation, that be did not understand the witness to have meant that he apprehended being " knocked down." It was however probable that . he bad not perfectly understood the reply. The interpreter warmly contended for the accuracy of his translation, upon which he was somewhat generally interrupted by ciies of " order, order, at the liar." Lord Ellcalborough declared that the words had not been correctly translated by the inter. pi et er. The interpreter replied, that Mr. Cohen, whom he had requested to assist him with so difficult a witness. had conon red lilt him in theaccuracy of his translation. Lords Liverpool and Grenville said a few words, after which, Lord Liverpool again rose, and moved, that the House do now adjourn; but Oh , aas received by loud cries of " No, no " Eventually another witness was called, and examined by the Counsel on the pat t of the proset•utiuu. The evidence of this witness was a mere repetition of little import. Five o'clock having arrived, the Lord Chancellor rose, and the House immediately adjourned. FRIDAY, AU/. 2i. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat ten minntcs before ten o'clock, on which Prayers were immediately read by one of the Reverend Bishops. Lord ELLEN ROM/CCM ruse to complain of an im putation fast by one of the Public Prints en a Noble Lord now absent on foreign duties. It was in giving an account of the evidence of Theodore Nlajocco, and stated that lie went from Milan to Vienna in the service ut thu Marquis Onischal ti, in August, 1817, %Mete he reootiord six or seven months, and ilietientert it the service of the Bin isli Ambassador, Lord Stewart. Now, front hill own knowledge lie could declare, that this could nut he the case. Several complaints were afterwards made by different persons of mist epreseistrition in the Public Pe iota. The examination of Francisco Batillo was then re sumed, but neither in that nor his cross examination by Mr. Bronelmin was any thine new elicited. Captain Peelle'', N. w as then sworn. EX AMINE!) UV 11.6 ATIORaI2.If -I:ESERAL. Said his name wits Siniutl Iku. ge Pecn. 11, and that he we.: a Post captain in the Royal Navy. Alar.1),181:"., did you roulinand a frigate (-Ord Cl,•rnnh Were yon at Civita Vecchia that month 1— I was. Did you rreeive her Roy al 114: i llness on board the tioriii(a in that month ?—I did. By is hum oils she accompanied ?-11y Lady Ci..iiiotte Lindsay, the Dint. Mr. N Aadame Fairoo.et too r thought:ls, and sevel al servittos. A entioist those servants did you see a matt named Beri.,,t. mi ? I did. lu what capacity did fli•r,.:aini go on board the Clot bid!, A Lt that oil a mental .I'4 s;t4pl. ere :.on in the habit of dining with the Thrice:. the on- entertwitied at my table. I)iii lieroimi wait at dinner I—He did. Ditt he wait as another servant i —He did. W net e did 3 ou convey her Royal highness I—To Genno. In the course of the voyage to Genoa aid you 10114 . 4 Leghorn ?-1' vs. Hid any one quit the ship at Leghorn ?—Yes, Lady (211, to lotte Lindsay and her two daughters, and it r. North. Was there a boy named Austin 01111.1;11d es. lu ISI6, did her Royal litglinessi.,n too honied the trete:- Ilan Lt Nov viola rof tort year s she cuiliati.cd on boat 4 the Leviathan, at tiennoo. Did you see her Itio)at Hißhnrs v hen she came to Cie shoat in hen earrititie to e mbank 1-1 tint. Who aceo utpuilieti her / —The CountobS tof (Yili find I tr- Rami, and an infant i 1 um nut C411;4144 is at thee at,) Nil,, r person 14 at U kit lit r. Did tau go in the C/orintle fr Clui.o.o to s 7_l r .. Had you directions to go to It. it re.te nee l:utat Higlitiessi—lfes. At what lime did you arrive 111 Sicily 2-011 the 7111 cc other. Hod ou any commuoication from lit r 'Wye.) Ili,l.ness at lies ina?--1 es. lit test mils to ?—On the satanic& after my as niynl at AICIW 1. :twain Bitt,gs ntf..tmrd tae that 1114 lki , l Highness i%tcs,ed WWI utoe:isiiwss ig e pro , sj.et tof kiering is 1.4141 C 4111 b o ard the ship. 1 atilt! Capt. lirl sto soy in lit Ito Ilt 0 1:84.14, that 1 wits Irk!) 141 due sirs hott t 4 it, it . 3 Fcr ,vnt.haittiCe aft