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ittLii it& trr+ 1,2- $ .0 4 4 I,llk le ft ( 1 411,U l it t 11, ~;-~ ~sr~ — ..r • -74=iii=c4 Our thug, Conti'Mutton, anti Uatufi. No. 1,276.—V0L. XIII.] Omptrial Varitament. HOUSE OF LORDS. EIGHTEENTH DAY OF THE DEFENCE. MONDAY, OCT. 23. Lord lIARROWBY presented the Report of the Select Committee appointed to inquire into the correspondence between Mt. Powell and Col. Brown, relative to the absence of Rulelli. The contents were unimportant, except that Reateili candidly declared be did not mean to return. Counsel were afterwards called in. Lieutenant Hownam verified his Order of St. Caroline, and Mademoiselle Louisa Dumont was handed to the Bar by Mr. Mettle, and examined by Mr. Williams. Are yon acquainted with a. woman of the name of Franchette Martini ?—I believe not. Do you know a man of the name of Henry Martini T—l do not iteollect any steels name. Do you know a place in Switzerland called Morge ? Yes. The woman of whom I speak is a milliner at that place? —I know a marchende des modes at that place, of the name of Martini, not ➢lartini.—(A laugh at the nicety of this distinction on oath. Do you remember sending for that witness to alter a bonnet fur you ?—I cannot recollect sending for her, as I did not reside at Norge. Well, without speaking of sending for her, I ask you if you saw her about altering a bonnet in any part of that yea' ?—I may have seen her, but I do not positively re collect whether I did or not. Do you nut tccollect Madame Martini asking if the Princess was not a woman of intrigue (une galanle)?-1 do not at all recollect. I do not recollect having any con• Versation with the woman on the subject. Do you not recollect being angry about it ?—I do not recollect this conversation; I have not the least idea of it. Do yon not recollect that ynit lair) it was all a calunwey` and that it was the Princess's enemies who spread the rumours against her!—l do not recollect any thing like it : 1 do not recollect it at all, _ -- Will 'ou swear that you did not say 80?-4 will not swear, I do not recollect. 1 not the least ides of it. Did you not say, that the Pi ineesii,from the time she left England, had been surrounded with spies ?—I never could have said to, because I never saw a spy. Will you swear you never said so ?—I will not swear it, but I do not recollect having said it. . . . _ . Did you 110 say to this woman, Mai tini , that the Pi incess was very unfortunate?-1 do nut recollect this ccoversa lion at all. And did yon not say that all the actions of the Princess's life were inisinterineted 1-1 do not recollect say 81)- 1 do nut recollect this conversation at all. Did ycti lot, in M 15% er to Martini's gitestion, say," My God ! it h iiiiposhiblo for anybody to be more virtninia than she is?—l do not i ecollect ; I eattnot recollect hav ing had that eutivc rs,.tion %ills Madame Mai Did )au not say to Illitdanie Martini, that in all her she, the Priticess, had un ft but the old hillg?-1 have nut the least idea of this couveiNation. I do not reetillvet it. Will you swear that you did not say vo will not Swear ii, boil I do not bilieve I evir said it. Al ter a s h o rt cross-elailidiatiiou by the Solicitor Gene ral, this witness was ordered to withdraw. Atter which I.llitaiellAbl proceeded to cMI Fraitebefic .2larlimi, a decently dressed wonian,appateuily about -40 eat 3 vine. Examined by Mr. Williams. Are you the wife of Henry Martini?—Yes. Of what place f—Moree. Do you keep a milliner's shop there ?—Yes. 1)o yon know Louise Dumont ?—Ye, Hon. tong have you known tier ?-I.'t mu the time she was at Menge, when shy f1.,1s quite young, and teat ning to Was that before she went into the service of her Royal Highcees ?—A long time before. the beet of your Anon ledge, of what agy was Dumont whcu )oil tint became acquainted wills bet t---311e. might be about ,tklecii. Have )on frcipiently Well Dumont at .)lorge ?—Front the moment I becalm, acquainted with her, 1 have scco lser Tory' uttcl). Do yon remember seeing Dumont ut Nlorge any time iu ly1S?—1 MAW her in the th of April. On what occasion via* It that yell saw Louise Dumont —At the cuunting-boas of the Demoiselle* J--, whither 1 was called on account of stMle wutl. which %les to be dune of Allallentoisellu Dumont. lit four ilint time had yon seen any joiiiiial of Louie Duitiolit':.l-1 read it. Whet& Son sum thulium, as you Ivivi• sai,!, en the sub ject of some work, did silt entrr iutu Loy .•. , tivers!l;i:m with her on the subject of that junt ital. or uI lit• Piincos Or Wales?—Yes. Al hat question 111(1 you rot to ?--1 oh served to Dtioolit that the l'to.ro•A ‘t 4ies 11..1 lihrltine. I said ttolid ly, Loci' list* sued N 416 What answ+•r did I)iiti ((((( t ui.ske to this 'nation ? She pot lieracifto a •%tent pais•ou it tyk , tiothit , it bnt caluottly, t 4 tots d Ly hut tEt-plits, to (Adis tu 1 . 1114 ►er. ri.__=iliop MONDAY, OCTOBER 30, 1820 Did Dumont say anything more ?—She said every thing that was good of the Princess; that she had never ob served anything of the Princess but what was good. Do you recollect Dumont say anything about spies?— She told me that ever since the As ineess had quitted Eng land she had always been surrounded with spies; she said something more—that every action that she slid, even the simplest actions, done with the best intentions, were mis interpreted—that the Princess know very "•ssil ,'"' site was snrrounded with spies ; but that she slid nothing which she was slut willing ail the. wails' might know. Do yeti remember observing to Dump?, that as she, Unionist, had always been shout her Royal Highness, she must have remembered all that passed ?—I only recollect what I have just said. Do yon remember inquiring of Dumont anythin; about the ekistity of the Princess ?—Yes ; I asked her whether she had ever observed ens thing of the Princess. What was her answer f—She answered no ; that she had never observed anything; and farther, that it was impossible for any person to be more virtuous than " my Princess." Do you remember any thing being said by Dumont about the late Kin the old King?—She said in the course of the conversation, that the old King was the only prop the Princess had. Did you know Dumont well—and did she know you well?—Yvs. Cross-examined by the Solicitor General. How came you to recollect a cnuversatiou nlkirh you, had with Mamma so lung ago as lblb ?—beeall,r I saw her deposition in the public papers, and then 1 openly inanileAed my indignation that she could have said what she did to me, and afterwards have made such a deposi tion. _ _ . Examined by their Lordships. ' Lord DARLINGTON.—Was Dumont acquainted with your husband?—Yes. Lord HARROWIII(.—Li your conversation with Dir. mom, did pm ask her any question as to the manner in which she affected by the death of her danhter, the aucess Chao lot te —Yes. What answer did she give? Site said, that the Princess was extremely atfeeted ; she shed teals, and said she had lust all that was most dear to her. The witness was then permitted to withdraw. IVillinne Leman examined by Mr. Tyndall —lk con fis mod his former evidence respecting lia au ii'Ende, and in ansa er to a question from the Eiri of I),ei iitey, %knees stated, that ss hen he saw I:ee 11 non d'Ende, he appeared iu perfect health, And that lie way about 10 ye-are ()liege. Mr. IiNOUGH V.W.—" My Lords, the difficulties which her Majf,ly s Cogan:4ll46ollr 11101'1 in fnrtiter proceeding on this trial, are great and manifold; no blame is attach able to any person, but to the proceeding itself, which has placed us in a situation ut unparadvleil difficulty and hardship. The witness, Barbara kress, who was examined against the Queen, lots swum Mat Al. Ilersteit compelled her to cows. lierstels dial not at Irma compel Baron d'litide to come ; lie gives him leave either to go or not, and perusistloil only to conic hack ; spasms succeeded, vely 11:1111rally, and there is no Juliet that the Baron d'Llide is actually ill. The woman Itarbaia flews may forced to be a aitucss, not, to be sure, by our own Go vernment, but by the C:iveitittient of Hanover. I blame them not; they Lebom din their 500311011, and the Quy e rn; h ent 11 0 .1 Lim:melt ic then's, and had looluiti iinly :WI:011.1;d to get the attendance nt tile liaroti. I blame no Gun; lint there is now au tit el impossibility of continuing this ease justwe to the tJuenti; and / not 14re that Lis bloj(stli, if 11C is tie oiler party, dots not o,sh the inquiry in c, , ntinno a single hour longer than it can be duns with perfect justice." The Clerk, by desire of Lord lb IL.. o, now read that part of (1w e•itietice of Harbin* Kress Aaiun related In the thicat that was used by the Minister lierstell, in order to eintipell lice to come over to he a witness fur the pri.secutioo —ono (him the letter by Ihnitiett to Mr. Lena, ill alheit he boasts of his " impartiality and jostice." (The repetition of Iltebe ex pres.aohi sailed foith 41 laugh from a ximiber of the Peers.; Lord 11OLLAN I) said, thrt he could not have rzcoocileil it to his duty to allow the rose to go on o ithout dra nig their Lordships' attention to the extracts ts Inch had been jag lead, The 1.0111) CHANCELLOR desired her Nlajebty's Counsel to proceed. under such circumstan ces taese, asal.willt the recollectloll of ttii it passed in the matter otlCtsiclli, we feel it utteily ble to proceed father in her blejesty'udefelice." Tile L 0111) t SIA NCLLLOIt asked the Atoll 'ley-(lime. ral if he had troy wittieews to produce to rebut iii points of the di:leiter If he had, he most lion proceed nitli their examination, as the Counsel for her Nl j:•,t, could not be called upon to mimes' the H o we on the IA 1101 e c..w, until the Counsi I for the 1111 loa.l produte,l all their evidence. The Ai f CIL AL. said , a uui pa.ticutarly of importuner t nat Col. !intuit kould he prod u ced, to chotra- INA the fool which had tutu thrown tin o u and on of ii r I e:.l,;(.l:thse ciadj ul uf, Ott 111 . 1l ilia Coiniuss vo.i. lie Otte A:tothey tie.wa..l) threw hltu.ell on the ittrit!gclice ur the lbws.- to grit::t littu tub t:o:c as %timid be Mali, sit f•K I bait put ,to , c, Mr. littht:OHA 11, wit.l exicaltdinary villeins. ice of lone and itimotri--.• And miss, my Limit. I ask n ther LoriNiip , are sittiti4 it o Coon of Justice ?" Tile sisucarow CiEVEtta clatineo the right or adding n few %ibid. nail I:Llicsl (tom ilia I.nsotql Is wil d th e Attitri.r:. tr. foe rceor.,,g bt drh.Y laid t ken m.s .k *Ault oldteirctlee of all ate Combel for thr BM, who timo.lit that it was fume esscutii4 to the cliarayser -140, ^ [PUCE 91d. of the Gentlemen employed in the Milan Commission, Hum esseidial to the right determination of the Case before the House, that Col. Brown should be examined. Mr. BICOUGIIAM.—NuiIting which had fallen from has other L-anted Friend could induce him to depart from the questiom which hr had put, and which he would repeat (raising his voice), " I ask whether your Lordships are sitting as a Court of T.-".. ;• .t.. . ..e .I.c tor the Bill, when they wanted to exclude an evidence which was material for her Majesty's viudicrs. tin,,, by tying him (Mr. B.) down ; by binding him round with nine-fold technical:ies—ss lien they wished to p him from tweaking through that MISS of conspiracy and per jury in which they had endeavoured to entangle his illustrious client—thou the word of Court of Justice WAS constantly sounded in their ears. Ilitt now uhanduoing every thing like form and reolarity of proceeding, dying in the face of every prii.eiple that guides the Courts below, their Lordships were applied to, not as a Court of Justice, but as a Haase, of Le4islature, to grant, out of their great indulgence, a favour which it never could have entered into the imagination (slimy man to apply for to any Other ttibunal. " I 84, 4 ' said the Learned Gentleman, " of in any Court since justice , was ailtniiiistered in this laud, shire any thing like fairness was dealt out hatween parties by what are called forms, those handmaids of justice, if ever a proposition so monstrous as that now (dieted to your Lordships was attempted to be made 1" The next thing he supposed which they should hear on the part of Cul. Brown was, that lie had not hod a list of witnesses, nor any specification of the charges against 1.0 n.—( A lau.:l).—" We, my Lords," said Mr. Brougham, " complain of such Olio 1, we have felt the want of them I all through the course of this proceeding; but lever did we foresee or apprehend the possibility of such an application rs this. Will your Lordships, for the sake of Col. Brown, however favourite an agent lie may be of the Milan Coln. mislay azain stop shunt hi this extraordinary proceeding ? Will you salient! my Illustrious Client once more into that state of horrible anxiety hi which she has been kept by yet . and by her prosecutors h—Will you continue her in that state of torture by making such a pluage as you are now invited to make, out of all regularity of procedure, into something as dark, us Listless, and as unknown to Courts of Law, as any thing which the human imagination can conceive? ask if your Lordships will indict such cruelty on my ills trious and sotto tag Client—a cruelty SO needless, so gralllite CMS, so shanwiess--tin injustice so beyond all example." Mr. DENMAN said, be should he deseiting his duty if he did not strongly oppose this proceeding, unexampled, and not only fatal 10 the cause of his Illustrious Client, but un. known the Courts of Justice. The Learned Gentleman sup. ported the observations of Mr. Broo.;hain with great ability, and after the Attorney-General replied, The LORI) CHANCELLOR said it appeared to him I. be the duly of the Attorney General, cousidering all the circumstances or this must important case, to make the ap plicatiou. The application had been made for too reasons, lOW for the sake of the character of Col. Br o wn, and the other with the view to the elect of his rvidehet upon this case. He considered that their Lordships were hieind to reflect upon all the evideuce before they determined upon grunting or refushig the application. lie should apply himj self to the exantioation M . the Minutes, and begged th,•ir Lordships would defer the derision till to-morrow 010111111 g. Lund GRE Y approved of the delay, but he should sa4ti at one [him; of, in his opinina, great importance. The question on which their Lordships would have to decide, was wheal,' the application should be granted now or after the Attorney. Gen.•ral had examined his other witnes.c.s. If the delay a ere ;41 - notted at this moment the Attorney Geared w ould have an opportunity of gtitity, flesh eviileoce, and thus add to the delay id.' jiel ice. Adjourned at to esity-five minutes past three. INETEENTI I DAV OF THE DEFENCE Ti CSO.t V, OCT. 24. This day, the Lord Chancellor tuck his seat on the Woolsack a few uuuutos before ten o'clock. Prayers we.. read, and the list called over in the sloe al manner. GREY then My Lan ila, as L trust we may vow entertain some hope of approaching the end of thesis paoceetlings,in which e have been so bug and so occupied. It appi ars to meeliccrdiuglyi n gtonttot th we should consider the na . aire of the evidence caveat at the bar—esidenr e which strongly proves that the testi moay dots not correspond with that before give n by the same witnesses. 'Ellis ',vatic the case, nay Lords, it be. conies lll:el...Silly that or , should lat . put in possession of the testimony of the viiiiiesses eta oath, us laid befo r e the Sect et Comolitine. I ant aware that the exai ;; i;; anon of these wiulea.es 11114 not been like the depositions given bean, Alagist &dies ; but IlioUgh extra judicial and irregular, they have been on oath, and have born 141 , 11 tu•fore the Secret Co, ;;;;; afire, and on limn isus foolitied the basis of this inquiry. CollCel% log, as I do, (list it is essential we should be past in possession of these deposi tions before tee are Culled Ola to decide un this momentous pauceediugs, I shill, at a follire period, move Owl they bas laid before yam Lordships." The Lo kI) C A N ELL° It•—" My L•ir , lA.4 tPlealiolt lA% tag ariseu last night, in umisegoture ill • ie npphcalian of the Counsel for the Hill to s!ay these pn oceeihit,:s until Colonel Bross should he called to pair Bar; in any opt. 1/i3ll. ju l tice dais PIA r, quire Mat p.,ur I.dreLliips should de. Vir•s prueerling.r (List's of Ili or, Item Lori . ..tote move. a That 0.,,,,4,•1 ho ions in, and inf./11.4A; hat it i 4 the wiih Loa da:iips that lire,, *Weld aitaw proceed." ( ' i.e' Earl of 1).1!: N 1.1. V said, if tie, se pe u c ci Aj i ,es Were fu g,r 0.1 at all. It w eerr.ii, ly night Iwo Sil t y should on WO lie r, ruler his sOlt . illll 1./1011 , 1 ag•tillsl pouevi.ding any fin/hti in has U*148%444141 iatltstry ; 141411 illts•C wile till en distinct grounds oil winch their ou ;;.1 to imi au ruts In It. Fatal, the us I haseaai lOW that 01 the tuttlipi. . .I, s, 4( ti , I • 01 • k • 1 1 F f t • • ~'y I