The National Register. — London, England, 1808-03-20 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL REGISTER,. Low) 114whicsavar concurred in the truth of the narrative• just given; but thought that some allou mice ought to be made for the irritation naturally produced by the sufferings and losses which Mr. Ciffard had sustained during the rebellion. Loan 11.4nnorich then withdre%r his motion ; stating, that his parpose was completely answered, by having had an oppor tunity of vindicating himself from the misrepresentations which had gone abroad, respecting his treatment of Mr. Gill:ad. MARCH 20. LORD ERSKINE quoted, ns the most recent precedent, the rejection of a Nloney Bill, when he lut4 the honour of i;ttime ntt the Woolsack, because it had a clause removing certain d ou b ts which occurred in the ease of Astlet, respecting Exchequer Lords ITarrowhy, Melville, and the Lord Chancellor con tended that the Bill was tint an infringement of the true intent of the standing order. Lords Lauderdale, Grenville, and (fray maintained the con trar, opinion. The Bill was negatived by a majority, proxies included, of 129 to 59.—Adjourned. TITURCT)A V, MA ItCTI 17. Le 17r.nnv presented a petition from certain lterchants in I i‘crrool agaitel the Orders in Council Bill, which he reciticbted the C erk to read. Loon //Enos', upon the petition being read, dwelt at some length on the motives of the petitioners. They coru,i-sted of more titan .100 of the most ;espectahle inhabitants of Liverpo►►l, who, differing. front each other on political subjects, had united in this application, from their apprehension of the injurious consequenc►•s to the trade of the cou►itry at lane, and to Liver pool in particular, as likely to re.nalt from the Orders in Couileil. lie con /:vied by mot ing, that the poltioners should he Iteprd by their Council on the t.econd residing, in furtherance of tit ~ Orders in Council. Tor. Dotir. or MnNroose argued, that the motion was inad missible ; au, aecor4ing to the standing orders, counsel could not be heard against a Bill of Supply. Loon 1.:11 , h,A n strongly iilsi!.ted, that the Petitioners had a right to he heard agaitiA the 1111`3•: , 111%; oft ht. Orders in Council ; and if there was now any difficulty in point of form, it wholly arose from the !rouse having entertained that subject in connec tion with a 1 tote of kid and Supply. Tor Loon CniNcr..Lion said, that there was no order to pro hibit hearing Counsel against a Bill of Supply; but the genera/ practice of th, House had rn not to hear them. Loon dir E•PCIIY thOUV,ht the prayer of the Petition con trary to the usual practice of the Howe. lie contended that the Bill had been uniformly represented as a Bill of Soppy, and that there etas not a eiall4e in it irreyelant to that object. Loon zi VC: 1-41 r) conjured their Lordships nett t,?. slvit their glom, against the Petitioners, and ath cried, m v, - :.,thetie terms to the di-tresses which were daily a rerintdd tim: upon tbe„mano facturers Mall quarter, of the country. ill , deplored the conse quences of the Order..i. in Council, as tending to shake that firm ness and energy which the people had hitherto displayed. order the most critical circumstances. The motion was then put and negatived without a division; and after a long conversatiou on a point of order, the Petition was rejected. Loner DEUFV pre-ented a Petition from the same persons whose names were affixed to the former, complaining of the Orders in Council, and praying to be heard :;;;tip:./ them by Council, or to have their allegatit,as examined info in such other manner as to their Lordships Antild seem meet. Ili:: Lortlnhip moved, that the Petition should lie on the table, ant: that the Petitioner: should he heard by their Counsel. Opposite opinions have rise to a long dLieus„om, In the ceurro of which Lord Ilawkeshury moved, that the worth: relative to hearing Counsel should be left out of the motion. This antel:4- mein, after considerable oppo-ition, was carried without. a Loan Enstftxt, in order to institute a proceeding upon witi•ch the p"titioners might he regularly heard, then moved that tht Ilotte should on Wellneiday go into a Committee to consider of the Order. in t auncil. This motion, after a short conversation was negatived.—Adjourned. FRIDAY', M.% RC!! IS. The Foreign Cotton Exportation Prohibition Bill, allO, British Cotton Export Duty Bill, were brought up from the Common-, and read a first time. Loan UCKLAND Wished to know, whether any assurances had been given, that Sweden and Sardinia were to co-operate in the execution of this regulation, as without now entering into its policy, it was clear to him, that unless their concurrence was procured, it would he wholly inefficient to prevent the enemy from being supplied by means of the circuitous *rattle, the le gality of which, at present, had been distinctly admitted. Lard BATH URST said, that he had admitted that British ships might convey enemy's produce from America to the ports of an Ally, whence it might bud its nay to frame, until that ORDERS IN COUNCIL. BILL. Lent) R..rnuasr moved the first reading of the Orders in Council Hill. Lour) GnErerILLE proceeded at considerable length to point out a variet% of paragraphs in the Bill, introducing rezulatimb of trade, ‘varehow , ing, &c. totallv irrevelant to a Rill of Sap ply, and therefore inadmissible in Oat form, in any degree of consistency with their Lordship's privileges. Among these he instanced a clause which, as now w orded, put an end to the charter of the East India Company. lie also particularly ad verted to a clause by which a remedy at law was taken away from persons complaining of being ac.grievcd under the Orders in Council, unless their actions were brought w ithin three months from the commission of the act complained of. As these Orders had now been in force upwards offeur months, he thought such a dance was, with respect to the niajorit \ of those aggrieved, adding loath to injury. He concluded unit moving that the Bill he rejected. Loren esrlissarnr was of opinion,that the Order of 1702 had not been rigidly insisted on in the case of several Money Hills within the last half century. Ile should propose to read the Bill now a first time, and then to have it printed ; with the view of its being read a seemid time on WedneAay, should the prints be then on the tahle.—Ordered. Lord Lake's Annuity Bill wns, after a few words from Lor& Grosvenor and Harrowby, read a third time and passed.—Ad jourued. TVESDAV, MARCH The Mutiny Bill was brought up from the Commons, and read a first time. REVERSIONARY GRANT RILL. Lorin RISS:OEM.4LE entered into a detailed repetition of the arguments which lie formerly urged against the Bill, and to which he said he had heard nothing like an answer. He objected to it as tending to infringe nu the prerogatives of the Crown, the influence of which was now considerably less than forme ;as trenching upon the privileges of their Lord ships, by springing out of a resolution and address of the other Douse, in consequence of the rejection of a similar measure last Session ; and, above all, as being the commencement of a s)steni of innovation which might ultimately lead to the subversion of the Constitution. _ _ Loan Goer . , at considerable length, controverted the argu anents of Lord Rede4ale. lord Holland, the Lord Chancellor, and Lord Ifawke,burv, then made a few remarks on a point o f order connected with the exhibition of proxies; and, a division taking place, the Bill was rejected by a majority, proxies included, of 128 to db.— Adjourned. WED N r.st m nc tit 1 8. Lord Grenville moved the Order of the Day f , 07 refulting the udioulaed debate on the motion for rejecting the Oilier,. in Council Bill, on the ground of iti being a violatioa of the Stand ing Order of 110 - 1. Lunn 114wKrsnrrzy quoted a variety of precedents in the reign of Queen Anne, and of late years, to prove that this Order was not so strictly interpreted, as to preclude the intro duction of Bills from the other !louse because they contained matter not absolutely necessary to be inserted in a Mime% Bill. The words of the 'Order described the interdicted clauses as being " foreign to and different from" the matter of the Hill. Yet such had been the practical latitude of construction giycu to these words, that in many of the Money Acts which he enu merated, there were clauses which very nearly, if not alto gether, came within the prohibition. From this circum-tance the Noble Lord inferred, that the }loose looked nut merely to the form, but to the design of a Bill sent up to them; their chief object being to prevent any attempt to fetter their right of free discussion by the custom or locking. which was so fre quently attempted a little before. the euacttneut of the Staadlug Order. 1 1Cr . • R :~ .. s. IS2