The National Register. — London, England, 1822-07-08 00:00:00

Army Extra Expence in Ireland 4.20.000 7.925. 000 Navy 3,440,0* Ordnance iSeei !animus... ............ 1,550.000 Extra Expenee in Ireland 150,000 1.700,0410 Greenwich Hospital, Out•PenciuncrB - ilo.too 16.615.000 Intcre , t, on Exchequer Bills 17,815,000 REDUCTION OP DF.ST. PinkingEtinel on Exchequer Bills 29 0 .0 00 To pay t!olilers of 5 per Cents... 2,titil,(loo Deficiency of Ways&Mealis,ttitt 290,456 Total for Reduction of Debt 3,381,438 A:21,106,456 —The Annual Malt Tax (called annual duties) he took at 8,000,0001. instead of 4,000.0001. the sum named last year.— Fur the Lottery, he named 200,0001.; if that were objected to ; he hoped some other tax would be kept in view that would make up the deficiency, if it were reduced.—(Hear, hear.)-- Ile should have to propose a Sinking Fund Loan of 7,500,0001. Last year that boon was 13,000,0001. this year he should only ask seven millions and a half. He intended to take it for the present year instead of asking to cover the service till the July of 1822. There would be a considerable reduction of the no minal Sinking rued, to limit it Vs the amount actually appli cable to the redemption of the debt exclvsively.—(ll.-ar, hear.) The Sinking Fund Loan of last year was raised at 130; that of the present year would be raised at 121. There had been, it would be recollected, a favourable change in the Funds, which showed the advantageous state of their credit. The actnal amount, beyond that of last year, to be applied by the Com missioners for the redemption of the debt. The right hon. gentleman then adverted to the expellees of the late St. Helena establishment, and the demands of the East India Company ; stud negociations letween them, as between iudependent states, the company having rights to defend—were going on. There lout been commissioners appointed on both sides and the result was that of a claim of 5,000,0001.; it was considereed that justice would be k done by grading 1,300,0001. Dear! ) lie had reason to believe that the company were satisfied with the result.—(Hear, hear! ) It was considered that it would be the most satisfactory mode to set that sum against the East India Company's loan of 1812. There then remained on such loan a balance of 570,0001. By biz arrangement there would be no new creation of debt. The nest sum arose out of the act lately passed regarding the half pay and pensions amount. ing to 2,450,0001. The right hon. gent. then detailed the ways and means for the present year, contrasting them with those of last year ; and the recapitulation was as follows :- 1821. 1022. 44,000,000 Annual Taxes 1,500,000 Tea Duties 1100,000 Lottery 16.1.414 Old Stores 500,000 Surplus Pecuniary Indemnity, payable by France, Re-payment by Commissioners for 114,570. issuing Exchequer Bills for Public} 110,000 Works 81,630 Surplus Ways aad Means, 1840. 6459,600 4.9C1,000 13,000.000 Sinking Sand Loan 7,500,000 461,539 IDA of Ireland, increase of Capital. East India Company Commissioners for Payment on account of Half Pay, Pensions. 1,450,000 83,180 UncLiiiied Dividends, &c. at Interest on Land Tax. Y 0,104,801 2,0,9 15 Deficiency of Ways and Means, 1841. By lncreabe of Unfunded Debt J 0,257 The Wended debt last session amounted altogether to 50,368,0031. including Irish Treasury Bills and Public Works. It would be seen, however, that the actual unfunded debt, in January last, was 31,000,0001. He did not wish to fatigue the attention of the committee, as there would be further op• portunities of examining the important items in more details.-- He should next advert to the actual income of the year. The customs produced, to Jan. 3, 1822, the sum of 9,141.1001; the Excise, including War Duty on Malt, 26,356,41.31. making to gether, 35,691,5211. For Ireland, Customs, ,496.59t41. ; Excise, 1,0159,92d1. Ile then laid before the House the fol lowing abstracted recapitulation of the produce of the revenues of Great Britain and Ireland to January 5, 11322: GREAT BRITAIN. Customs ... £ 9.135,102 Excise 26,546,415 Stamps Post Office .. 1,3114.000 Assessed Taus 6,256.811 Land Tax Mincellaneous 223.430 Property Tax 34,234 Total Net Revenue Great Britain, including Pro party and War Duty on Nlalt Deduct Rcccipt upon Property and %V ar Duty on Malt Total Net Revenue Great Britain. exclurive of Pro perty and War Duty on Alak 50,851,672 IRELAND. Customs — E1,49G.59i Excise and Assessed Taxes humps l'ai.t Office 63,338 Aliscellancons Total Net Revenue Ireland 4.103,931 Total Net Revenue Great Britain and Ireland, in cluding Property and War Duty on Malt 54,989,837 Deduct Itemipt upon Property and War Duty on Malt Total Net Revenue Great Britain and Ireland, ex— elusive of Property and War Duty on Malt 34,953,603 lie added that the Dish and Portuguese payments, fur the in terest on their respective debts, payable in Great Britain, were excluded fano the statement of the English revenue; end the advances out of the customs and excise revenue of Ireland for seatnen's wages and army half-pay on account of Grett Britian were included in the statement of that revenue. There was every reason to believe that the revenue wend contion.• to ios prove. Th: last quarter's amounts. jost received at the Du etcyter, were rl,thio,dl4l.--those of the correspon.ling vatter sat year having been tiaoo.tx)Dl.—(lteme, licm.fr-in miser THE NATIONAL REGISTER. (pence of the repeal of certain taxes, be did not expect here after that the amount of certain duties would be snore 6411 they at present wei ;—if tbe contrary were the result, it w wild in deed be a subject of just congratulation.— he rerapitulation of the customs' prod nee to Jan. 5, 1822, was as follows : Consolidated Customs • . • • • C 4,160.702 Customs Isle of Nl:at 15.753 Cana! an d D!)ek Duty . . • . . 26.1 . 51 Quarantine Duty 13,269 burplus Annual Duties Total Customs to Consolidated Fund . Annual Untie. to pay off Dills • . 5.361.396 3.773,706 9.135,10 2 Total Customs And fu► the Excise for the same prriud Consolidated Excise • • • • British and Foreign Spirits, 1821 Surplus Annual Duties • • • • Total to Consolidated Fund . Annual Duties to pay off Bills . War Taxes . • • • . 4:21,314,642 1iN),928 • 1.754,101 . 23,103.711 501.201 . 2,761,503 Total Excise ifo concluded with moving a resolution, that a sum of 7,0491,0001. he granted hr way of amiity. Mr. Maberley, Mr. Ellice, Mr. Ricardo, and Mr. Mini-, made some observations on the subject of the sinking fund, lamenting that the public still had to pay so much toward a maintaining what was so inefficient towards the avowed object. i►Ir.CALCRAFT observed, that according to the financial' arrangements of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, to gain the advautng:• of transitory relief that was gained, the public were saddled with a❑ additional expence of 70,0001. for . 4 manage- ment." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted that there undoubtedly was the addilionel charge that had been ad verted to ; hut he maintained that the advantages to the public would be more than tantamount to the expence. The several resolittions were then put aud agreed to, till they came to that granting the lottery. Mr. W. SMITH spoke of the extensive establishment of the lottery. The Honse divided on the Resolution. The numbers were —Ayes, 7 I—Noes, 34—Majority in favour of the lottery, 10. The other resolutions were agreed tn. Report to-morrow. Mr. PEEL moved, that the House go into a committee on the Alien Bill. Mr. HOBHOUSE opposed the motion. Some pretext had been urged as reasons for asking fur the former bill; but this was required as a measure of confidence. As to responsibility it was nothing. The hon. gent condemned the measure alto gether as unconstitutional and unjust, and as intended only to forward the views of other governments„ and to etieble them to restrain the march of freedom in the world. Ile conatded by declaring he would give the measure his decided opposition in every stage. Mr. F. ROBINSON defining! the measure as necessary to the safety and tranquillity of the eountry ; be denied that it was intended to promote, by the passing of this hill, the views of any foreign power against liberty. It was a necessary measure, and his Majesty's government were responsile for the proper and temperate exercise of the power thus placed in their hands; he contended that, even under the provisions of Magna Charta, although free egress and regress were given to aliens, yet they must be taken to enjoy this liberty under the restraint and con. trout of the Crown. Ile declared he considered the measure necessary, and gave it his support. A long debate followed. The Howe dim ided.—Por going into a committee, 142; against it, 60-31tiority, for the com mittee, 52. ' Mr. HOIMOVSE then moved to fill up the blank with the word " one" year. Mr. P. MOORE proposed that the Chairman should report progress—for the motion, 37—against it; 1 4-1-31ajoiity, 107. The committee then divided on the question for hlllug up the blank with the word" two." For the motion, 125—against it, 55—Majority for " two yearn," 70. The committee then divided upon the question, that the Chairman do report progress, when the numbers were—For reporting progress, 37—Against, 141—Majority, 107. A'second division took place while we were excluded from the gallery, upon as amendment, that the duration of the bill be li mited to six weeks after the meeting of Parliament beat session. Upon this the numbers were—fur the amendment, 55—a o sinst it, 125—majority, 70. On our return to the gallery we found Mr. WETHERELL opposing an amendment to the pre amble (moved by Mr. Brougham.) After a few words from Mr. Peel. Alderman Heygete, and Mr. R. Martin, agninat the amendment, and from Mr. Searlett. Mr. W. Smith, Mr. Denman, and Sir R. Wilson, in support of it, the amendment was negatived without a division. The house having retrained, the report was ordered to be received on Friday. Sir. WESTERN, in allusion to a notice of motion of his respecting the currency, which stood for Wednesday, observed that it was his intention to submit ■ series of resolutions on that day, for the purpose of having thew printed, and in the hands of members. Mlle Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, he could have no objection to that course. The other orders were then disposed of, and the House ad journed at two o'clock. 71 1 EIIDAY, JIILY 4. The Salt Tax Repeal Bill was read a second time. Ordered to be committed to-morrow. Ihe Salt Duties (Deland) Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. The Grand Jimmy Presentments Intl was read a third time and passed. The Stamp Duties Bill was re-committed. Several amend ments were proposed by Mr. I.tialtington itiol agreed to. The retort was received, soil ordered 10 be token into further con sideration on Monday next. Mr. KENNEDY moved the third reading of the Scotch Juries Bill.--Read a third tier and passed. Mr. W. SMITH mowed fur returns the sums paid at the Stamp Office by the several insurince offices, distinguishiog the offiees.—Ordered. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the second reading of the Small Notes Bill. Mr. HUME was against this bill, because be thought it went to extend the protection to century notes against their being parable in rash. Mr. JAMES ahonlil take the sense of the House on this hill, as its principle was to bring thee' to an everlasting aye ens of paper-monev. Mr. CUR:WEN thought the ►ill woc:d he useful in the culotte.. , the people tl.ere preferred paper to geld. Mt. JAMES psrsistod in his o pp u a i doo, bevauess the lota was 34.434 34,234 211 calculated to perpetuate the paper system, and to restore hang- ings for forgeries. The House divided. The numbers were—For tbe second reading, 47--easima it. I—Majority in favour of the bill, U. Mr. ',ENNUI!) pre4eutcd a petition from the fivalteters of Ipswich, against the Excise Hegulatioae Hill. Ordered to be printed. - Tie CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to Mr. Curwen's inquiry, stated that he p►oposed to limit the du ration of the lower salt duty for two y ear. till April, 182. Ile thought, Irons the favourable avect of the linuoces, that by 182.1, the sum which the reduced tax would produce, Itto,4lodl. could he spared. Mr. BENNET presented it petition from various trustees of benefit societies, praying to be exempted, as usual, from the operation of the stamp duties. Mr. WODEIIOUSE moved for leave to bring in • bill to repeal an act of the present session, regarding licenced malt hotetes, each making warehouse being made subject to a picnic• of 41. lOs. The bill had, he declared, been " smuggled" tbr•mgb both Houses of ratliantent. Mr. W. SMITH svconded the motion. Mr. URIGHT supported the motion. One licence hereto fore covered all the malting houses ; now each house was to be licensed ; and when the bill Web brought in lie understood (from Mr. Lushingion) that it contained no material alteration. A practice had grown up of twinging in hills late at night. No deseription of them was given, and accident only frequently brought them ta light. Mr. LOCKART also censored this practice, and condemned the mode of hurrying such bills forward without having them printed. Ile ►hould move that it he a standing order that no bill respecting taxes should he read a second time, without havinge previously been printed. Ile also spoke of the hard ships under which the bark, trade already lahouretl. An acre producing four quarters, was taxed to the estent of 131. The taxation proved en obstacle to the consumption. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted, that many hills were passed without having that attention which they merited: hut the state of business rendered it impossible that it should he otherwisa, when so much of their time was taken up with extraneous discussion. lle was willing that the clause iu question should be repealed..--( Hear! ) Mr. SMITH (of Lineola ) said several bills bad nt dilTerent times been passed—all of Ilion tondo. , from the treasury— which the House had known nothin; about till they became lave. Mr. LUSHINGTON observed that the bill was before the House a month. He had not moved the printing of it, because there were but four elanees in the bill. After some remarks from Mr. Hume, Mr. Rennet, &c. the motion was agreed to. Assessen TAXE?.—Mr. HODHOUSE rose to brine forward his motion for the repeal of the Horse and Window Tex. He should, in the GSA place, move a resolution declaratory of the fact, that the people of England were over-taxed, and that this House and Window Tax wan not requisite to meet the {worr expenditare of the country. The Ministers had heretofore Mated, that taxes could not be reduced, and that, even if they could, their reduction would only he productive of calamity. They said thus mach at the beginning of the Session—and yet the country hail since beheld tire repeal of the Malt and Salt, and several other taxes ; and, what was still more remarkahle, the country had not been injured by such repeats, nor had the Ministers abandoned their places. The Ministers on the sith ject of taxation seemed to think that taxes blessed those who gave as well as those who took them. The people however had no occasion to be alarmed ; and if they persevered he doubted nut that the House and Window Tax would in its turn be con ceded. The hon. Member then observed, that some Peti tioners had drawn a comparison between a noble lord and Oliver Cromwell. It was true both had great power, and both were remarkable for the confusion of their ideas. The hon. Member then contended that the present state of things could nut con tinue, that farmers paid their rents out of capital ; and that without a still more extended reduction of tax,:tion, elfectoal relief could not be expected. He concluded with moving re solutions declaring that the rate of taxation now enforced vc.s burdensome and oppressive ; and that there ought to be reduc tions of the window-tax, &c. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the "notion. The Horse had agreed to certain financial armee rents ; and to agree to this motion would tend to prevent their being carried into eil'ect. Mr. MABERLEY supported the motion, and said he would support all motions for a reduction of taxes till there was • much less extravagant expenditure. Mr. WYNN opposed the motion, denying that the rents were paid out of Capital; so far from that being the case, where there were farms vacant, there was the greatest competition for them. Mr. HUME strongly supported the motion. He maintained that greater reduction were requisite, and that if the House would curtail the Supplies, the 31inistere would discover how to make a dimiaishei Revenue meet all the useful demands of Government. The hon. gentleman contended, that, in addition the taxes already repealed, those now alluded to by his friend mi;ht also he given up. The sum relinquished then would not exceed 709,11401., and he had shevrn that 10,090,0091. might bare been given up three years ape. He urged tire House to deprive Ministers of this tax, aid thereby force hem into economy, which, without such force, they would tie% er adopt. Mr. MONCK also supported the motion; though lie must say he should consider a redectlon of ten Meiling.; per barrel on strong beer as better calculated torelieve all classes of the com munity. A reduction of ten shillings per barrel on strong herr would relieve the country to the amount of 3,000,0001. at least. Mr. CA LCRAFT was decidedly against doing any thing to effect pnhlic credit, but io his opinion, to adopt he proposition now before tire House would bare the effect of supporting leiblic credit, although he was ready to acknowledge that to carry the repeal of this tax into effect, the Sinking Fund must be touched. . Mr. MAXWELL supported the motion. He complained of the weight or taxation, which drove thousands out of the country. The Howie divided—For the motion 59—against it 116. Majority O.—Adjourned at nee o'clock. WEDNISDAY, 3tLY 3. _ There being nnly 29 members present at from o'clock (forty hein.; required to be present at or hefnre tlott hour to make a !louse) the Speaker declared the House to stand adjourned till In-morrow. Till*P5ll , lY, JrLY 4. A new writ We* ordered for Wigton, i■ the room of Mr. Hunt►r Bloir, deceased. Mir E. KN ‘TCH BULL presented a petition from remain freeholders of Kent, dieclaimin4 that punt of the lute county petition which required .the House to tiadate public faith— Ordered to ire rrtz.l.o4l. ( For ccattiout..tialt see pag' 211.)