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*t the same time assures us, that the principle cannot be effectually taught, except in communties formed up on the plan which he has developed. That he is aware of the impossibility of introducing his system Into large towns, we infer from the circumstance of his pointing out certain modes of refbrming the morals of the poor, in large communities, wholly distinct from his favourite scheme of a community of goods. These plans of reformation are, the abolition of State Lot teries; increased duties upon ardent spirits, so as to amount to a prohibition, and a diminution in the num- Ber of ale-house licences. Even on some of these points, the prudence of Mr. Owen is questionable. Experience has shown, that excessive duties serve but to encourage illicit trading, and that what cannot be obtained under the sanction of the laws; will be ob *lined by violating them. But the part of Mr. Owen's system to which (perhaps from our not comprehending it) we have the strongest dislike, is that respecting religion. All the present systems of religion he says are wrong; and that new views must be entertained on this important subject; before his plans can succeed; but unfortunately he leaves us almost in the dark with respect to his improvements. "Tests of every kind must be removed," he tells us, but he tells us nothing snore, and we confess that with every disposition to think well of Mr. Owen, we feel somewhat alarmed at his silence, on the means of improving what he so dogmati tally pronounces to be wrong. The merest machine of a labourer can pull down, but it requires the scientific artist to build up, and we for our own part confess, that did no other objections lie against Mr. Owen's plan, his want of candour on the subject of religion would be ufficient to sink it in our estimation. Without entering into the calculation of Major Torrent at the London Tavern Meeting to prove the total impracticability of the scheme, we are satisfied that if it were practicable, its tendency would be not only to create a listless apa thy in the members of each community, but those bonds of parental and filial affection which are now the strength of society, would inevitably be torn asunder, and the succeeding generations would grow up unfeeling, insu lated beings, destitute of those tender affections which correct the sterner propensities of our nature, and fit us fi•r an association with our fellow men. For, say what we will, the force of blood is stronger than the force of habit, and the youth who, under the fostering hand of a kind parent has imbibed the purest filial and fraternal feelings, will inevitably prove a better man than he who has never been taught, or had opportunities of ac quiring either. From the LONDON G,IZET TE, Tuesday, Aug. 12. BANKRUPTCY ENLARGED. Woani P. and SYDLBOTIIA3I P. Liverpool, Merchants. BANKRUPTS. Hiscoct E. Abingdon, Berks. woollen draper, An,-. 21, 2t, Sept. 23, at A'Ungdon. Atts. Blagrave and Co. Symontf's Inn. OWEN R. lIMWiCk. Anglesey, shopkeciwt. Aug. 22,'23, Sept. 23, at Liverpol. Att. Mr. Chester, Staple LE WARN W. Taunton, Somerset, carpenter, Aug. 23, Sept. 9, 25, at Bridgewater. Atts. Nlests. Blake, CArcy-street. Blrcoca H. Manchester, shopkeeper, Aug. 25, 26, Sept. 23, at _Manchester. Atts. Maine, and Cu. Temple. Fr. ACK ET 'l'. Bre:l , ton. Derby, butcher. Aug. 2R, 29, Sept. 23 at N ottingham. Atts. Enrich! and Co. Nottingham. Puum.r. R. Carlisle, inelsceper, Aug. 28, 29, Sept. ".:5, at Carlisle. Att. M. Clcnnell. Staple's Inn. Fu , rArs W. LiVerpotA, giscer, Aug. 22, 23, Sept, 23, at Liverpool. - Atts. Clarke and Richards, Chancery-lane. SALTER .1. Ilalberton,l/evon. dealer Aug. 18, 19, Sept. 25 at Tiecr • ton. Att. Mr. Gray Gray's Inn. itAZELL G. Saltford, Somerset, victualler, Aug. 19, 21, Sept. 25, at Bath. Atts. Adlington and Co., Bedford-row. SALMON J. Westbury, Somerset, dealer, Aug. 25, 23, Sept. 55, So merset. Ans. Dyne and Son, Lincoln's Inn fields. DAMAN T. Ttaltlington, tanner, Aug. 16, 30, Sept. 23 at London. AM Mr. Bose, Percy-street. ISrEitg A. South Shield,, ship owners, Aug. 16, 24, Sept. 23, at Guildhall, London. Att. Mr. Lang, American-square. WALnuck 11. llonter-street, St. Mary.le.bonc, eliee.einonger, Aug 16,53, Sept .23. at Guildhall. Att. Mr, Dunkin Cold Bath. .aquarz. Ikuvr W. Longtown, Cuntherland, dealer in bacon, Sept.i, 2, 23, at Carlisle, Att. Mr. Itirkitt. Cloak-lane. DONALD J. Clifton, Westmorland, cattle dealer, Sept. 1,2, 23, at Carlisle. Mt. Mr. ltirkitt, Cloak-lane. _ _ LINDER H. Hart-street, CrUtelied-tiut . rs, ship-broker, Aug. 16, 23. Sept. 2 - 4, at Guildhall. Att. Mr. Ilacket, New-court St. Su - hinted lane. _ _ Piti Lips A. and Losr.a 11. Salters' Ilall_i•ottrt, mcrchantm. Ang. 19, 2ii, Scpr i t3, at Guildhall. Atts. Pearce and lion, Saithin-lunc. . nivmENDs. R. Foster, Leicester, tallow-chatalter, Sept. 19. J. 11 Wing. Norwich, jeweller, Sept. s. J. George, New 80. 11-streer, hat manufacturer. Sept. 5. J. !tore, I (igli street, Shore itch, hosier, Sept. 2. R. Baxter, 'calbsst Irin-yard, Southwark, ironmonger, 0 (1.4. T. Eggar, Holybourr...., Hants, tanner, Sept. 3. H. Cne,ney. High fsinge mansttle.!urer. Seot. 11. Came, AttAin-friars, insuranee. troker, Sept. 3. G. C.sanner, Sutton, issae:sant, Sept. 3. R. E!wood, Lntulon. and W. Wilson jun: Banbury, Oxford, wine merchants, Sept. 2. J. Muneaster, Lancaster, watch-maker. Sept. 4. 0. Finelsom, High-street, Shaciwell,slopsellers, Sept. 5. J. Goundrill, Grace-chureh-street, haberdasher, Sept. 5. C, Hales, Bolt-court, Fleet-street, upholsterer, Sept. 17. W. Foster, Leicester, grocer, Sept. 19. CFR riFicATEs, ALMVST 22. J. Weyer and G. lisztte, Sheffield, platers--. 1. Steel. East Stone house, Devon. shoemaker—C. !humlton, 11ethant Northumberland, draper—W. Foqter, I wicester. grocar- 7 W. R. Douse, To o l e y- s t reet , &nub wa. k , uellow-chandler—J . N.% stationer,—C. Borgliact, Rosentary-bine. sugar-refiner—W. J. Arnold. Great Tower street, wine inert hant—W. Reed, Fleet-street, law brlnks..ller, 1. Lees, W hiteliall, Stittlintl, umber-merchant—J. Newbury. St. ci en , e nt. Oxford. woollen-draper—J. Green, Uliun ham, Gloucester, dealcr—T. W orral I, 1k" reithaie. 1 /enbigh, grove)—.l. J. 11 unt, Itakapa . sWtten, 1164,44 c"••• 11 . JtervY, New Sumui r Wilts. druggist. TM NAT/ONAL ISTEIt LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF CHANCERY., Arcuier 14. JI:DGMENT IN THY. QUECNSIN:RY LEGACIEN. On Tuesday last an —application vMs Made by Sir Arthur Piggott, in behalf of the pecuniary legatees and annuitiutts under the will of the late Duke of Quttpusbury, for their being paid nut of the funds deposited in Court one-fourth part of the amount of their claims. It had been stated by the Learn ed Counsel, that, independently of the claims advanced by the Buccleugh and the March tenants, who moreover acceded to the present application, there would remain in Court a fund of inure tlran a million sterling, while thentmost extent of the pecuniary legoeies and annuities eras 773,01 11., for only a fourth part of which suns the application Was then made. The Lord Chancellor, this mornin; on coming into Court, addressing himself to Mr. Hart, said, that he had examined all the papers, and it appeared to him, that the arrears and interest created a fund sufficient for granting with safety what was required in the application with the consent of the claim. Mg tenants of the Duke of Buecleligh and of Lord Weinys. Sir A. Piggott and sir S. Romilly observed, that the funds in Court, at the present rate of exchange namely 80, would produce one million two hundred and fifty eight thousand pounds and upwards; and looking to a reduction so low as so, or even 50, would leave a solid land of more than a mil lion sterling. The Lor7l Chancellor said—" Take one fourth of the sum doe to the appellants." Mr. Hart observed, that there was besides an aecninulation of interest for five years tine up to June last, r hich made the whole amonnt to 742,5001. aed he trusted that the Accomp• tant-General would be directed to sell to that amount. The Lord Chancellor tt Take the 212,5001. and let the re sidue remain in Court, not to be disturbed without notice." Mr. Hart, for The residuary legatees, bad no desire to op pose the application, but he trusted their costs would be taken Care of. The Lord Chancellor said, that was implied in the order, and that the magnitude of the fund rendered. the order safe. OPERA ROVSE.-WATERS P. TAYLOR. The Lord Chancellor—" I read every document in Phis case with the greatest attention, and have cw.ipared them with the affidavit I received on Monday. lam not aware that aft the parties ha% r seen this affidavit." Mr. Hart—" They nave been serveil w ith copies of it, my Lord." The Lord Chancellor—" Then they cannot pretend igno rance. The case is more intricate than lat first supposed, as the two motions I have to deride are so very different. I have every respect for the parties, hot I most treat them as if they had not any interest in the theatre, and as eommou parties. It has been unfortunate tier the parties that they were inclined to so much litigation ; it would have been mach better for them to have taken my advice in the first instance, and have settled the business between themselves. I will how ever detideii according to equity."' am afraid it is them:Mout of Court I shall act contrary in this case, than I have been iu the habit of doing with others., If there is such an idea, it is a most mistaken one ; for I shall act as if it was a private house in Chancery-lane. Although they have hitherto refused to take my advice, I will once more give them an opportu nity of taking advantage of it, for which reason I will not give my judgment until to-morrow. I trust they will take advantage of my intentions towards them, and that instead of Os Mg my judgment to-morrow, I shall be informed the parties have shook hands, and that it will be unnecessary. If that is not the case, I shall enter into the merits of the ease, and make those continents I shall think proper." Judgment postponed. MEETING AT THE LONDON TAVERN. Thursday a Meeting was held at the City of London Ta vern, ltishotisgate street, to consider" A Plan to relieve the country from it,, present distress; to re-moralise the lower or. der s, reduce the Poor's Kates, and abolish Pauperismi with all its degrading and injntions core.emielices." About in elve o'clriek the room W. 16 neatly filled with de cent people. among those We noticed some highly respectable thonele comparatively speaking, their number, , A as very • mall. There were also several respectable females, chiefly of the Society or Friends. A ;hut time befor e one o'clock Mr. Owen, the proposer of the plan, entered the Itoom, and" (Alai r"%illS called. Upon this there was some diversity of opinion. One person pro. posed Major Cartwright. This was received with load hisses and cries of" No Political Characters." . . . Itoweroft was next propowd, and • thongh he begged several times to be excused, as" it was not fit that he should preside," the opinion of the . Meeting seeming unanimous in his favour, he at length took the Chair. He then read the notice which called the Meeting together, and bogged that the utmost attention might he given to every gentleman who should come fm win to. otrer Ids sentiments. .51,r. Owen, he observed, would speak tot himself, and he had no doubt that It would meet with attention. Air. Owen then rose, and in a speech of considerable Ii ngth, detailed all the .ticsery rowaltinz from the present C St cm; and urged nearly the sane awtments in favour of his !pro posed plan of reform, as have appeared in his various publi cations. lie concluded by submitting the following Reso lutions to the meeting. 1. That many of the poor and working classes, in Great Britain anti Irelrmil, cannot now procure employment to enable them to cam a prop.. ~, it , istence.—t arried unanimously. 2. That m Great nritain and Ireland, the poor, the unemployed, and the inefficiently employed, are now supported at a ruinous ex pence to many parishes, and by emulsive and injurious private cha rities. 3. That under these circumstances, the poor and working classes gencially ..z.perience privations and disi.ress to a greater extent proba bly, than they I. ye sittieresi any forme: in the history of this country.-1 he above two Resolutions earned nearly unanimously. 4. That this arises front manual labour being of less value when camparesl with the price of provisions, and the habits of the people ginerally, than it has been at any tinnier period. 5. That it is not probable maned labour cart regain its proper and necessary value, muter eircum tunas beneficial to the country, unless other arrangements shall be formed by society, purposely devised to give productive employntent to all who are nompeteut and willing to labour. 6 That it is the highest practical point in political economy, as it most essentially involves the well being arid happiness of all taoks. to attain the means, by which the labour in any enusitry can be the roma advantageously employes'. 7. To reduce the Pise's Hates. / illti to graslually abolish Pauperism, with all its degrading and itijuriotesconseque6ess. s. 'ilia( as a solemn and grave jad,4ment ought not t o ty. r i ve „ tily, on u !subject in which the vital inn:tens of this Lillian: and other AUGUST countries are involved,—the plan now proposed shall be submitted to the scrutiny and investigation of a Committee, composed of many of the leading, most intelligent, and best disposed, from among all ranks, who by their previous acquirements may be competent to give a useful opinion on the subject. For something must be doue. 9. 'That the Committee of General Investigation be composed o f the foNowing Noblemen and Gentlemen, (winch of them as may be inclined to perform this high and iinportani duty, for themselves, their country, and fur posferrty. The Committee to have power to add from time to time to their number and to be a quorum.- 1 . Here Mr.' Owen read the namAt of nearly SOO Noblemen and Gen. tleinen of the first distinction and character in the country.) 10. That this Committee shall report the result of their investiga tions and 'Awaits, to a General Meeting to be called for that purpose, early in May nextyear, or sooners if they shall so determine. 11. That the Proposer of the Plan shall give from time to time to the Committee, all the information in his power, that they may ask or requite. Here Mr. Owen stated, that it was not his intention to have proceeded - farther npon this point at present, but a most be nevolent and public spit ited gentleman, whose name he was not at liberty yet to mention, called npon him late last night, and in the most liberal manner made an unlimited otter of about 1500 acres of land, proper in all respects to try one ex periment upon, and of at least 50,0001. in value, which might be used for such purpose, at any time after October next. He could' not therefore refrain from proposing the following additional resolutions : I*, That it is now most desirable one or mete experiment should be tried with the least possible loss of time. 1.5. That tbr this purpose a subscr i p tion be now opened, that when ever 1(0,0001. in money or land, sh all be Subscribed, one experiment shall be commenced forthwith, and a second when 300,0001. shall be subscribed, and so on as each following I 00,0(sil shall be subscribed. 14. That the following Gentlemen, or such of them as may be in clined to act, shall be a select acting Committee, to direct and super intend such experiments, assisted by the propther of the plan. 15. That the most warm and cordial thanks of the meeting be gi yen to the Gentleman who has so nobly stepped forward to offer.his land to the Country, for the use of an experunent at the moment . o was wanted. After the Resolutions were read, the Chairman said, he [ should then road, and put them seputatey. Mr. Hunt then rose, and was received with the almost unanimous disapprobation of the meeting.—Loud hisses, and ' cries of" No Politics," were beard thronghont the room. The Chairman begged silence, and then read extracts of letters from several magistrates and others to Mr. Owen, ap. proving of his plan, and expressing their opinion that it was called for by the situation of the country. He hoped, that gentlemen would see the propriety, and, indeed, the necessity, of confining themselves to the subject matter of the meeting, and not introduce politics, which might be. better discussed at another time and place. Major Torrent; rose and observed, that he was one of those who differed from the worthy and humane proposer of the present plan. He was disposed to give hint the highest cre. dit for Ifis intentions, brit tic titonglit he had gone entirely upon theory, and that his theory was a false one. Mr. Owen bad taken it for granted, that population increased, not as had been generally believed, in a geometrical ratio, but in an arithmetical one. lie took it that one married pair would only produce one, and two produce two; but he seemed to have left out of consideration, that two would produce four, four eight, and eight sixteen. That were there one hundred married couple, the population still in a space of twenty yea is be increased to four hundred, and so in proportion. The omission, or rather this perver s ion, of p r i nc ipl e i t was that caused ie confusion whirl' was apparent in the gentle mar* plan. Tite . secon4 principle upon. which Mr. Owen bad gone, was, that every man had in himself the powsrof produeing from the earth ten times as much of the necessaries of Ilk as he himself could consume. This be should deny. The labour of one Milli Might produce as notch as would sospport two, but it by no means went on in a geometrical ratio. The la bour of ten might Ire sufficient to support twenty, but the labour of twenty would not be adegnate to the support of forty, nor that of forty to the support of eighty. There was another principle advance) by Mr. Owen vs hi ch was equally fillacious. It was, that population can never press against sshsi•lenee, until the a orld becomes cultivated as a garilcu. This he would deny. The wealth of a country might be di vided into three parts—rents, profits, and wages. But the wages alone could be the price of labour, and therefore the escrtions of the labouring classes could only be rewarded by wages, whirls, it not, as now, sufficient to support them, must disprove, that population could never press against sub• sistesice Thee as to the practicability; Mr. Owen says, that a offs lage, in which are a thousand pertons, with a plantation aronnd them of one thousand acres, shall produce abundant meat) , of subsistence, !resides paying rent, taxes, mid afford. in sufficient leisure for the cultivation of the mind ; and also sufficient time for all the purposes of recreation. If tilt be trnc, then it intist follow, that being freed from those many restraints wide!' would be on them in society, there will be no hindrance to their early marriage, and this will be the more induced by the eiteninstance that they are not to be troubled with the care of their children after a .certain at t e (three years). It will follow, then, that they mail increase even in a greater ratio than they now do, though even that is greater than what Mr. Owen admits. ,%t such a rate, in twen.y years, the land which was intended to salmon only 1000 per sons will be burthened with 2000, and in forty years, with 4000, and so ou increasing in a gunmen frill retie every twenty years. Where then, would be the surplus tiw rent, taxes, he. and where world be the time for all that leisure fur, lott-Ilec toal improvement and for that recreation which are now held out ? The fact was, there would tint be sufficient, nor nearly sufficient fur the snp port of half the population, and then in deed it would be found, that population could press upon subsistence long before the whole world was cultivate d as a t:aulrn. The pressure of want and time pinchings of lin:l;er would ensile, and instead of having men more happy or mole comfortable in such a situation, it would be found that there would br a Chligregutioll of misery in those vil:ages, which could not he well expected to be relieved nom without.— Mr. Owen had said, that circumstances limn the chai:,eter, but what would such 61(.11,11st:1nm pi odure ? Instead °fillet& being 'mited in labouring for the common' interest, they would, when this surplus of necessities failed, be emleai miring to defraud each other; and it would be sects that %%hese com fort and kippiness were expected to pi evail, the darkest barbarism would ensue, lie then proceeded to show many other parts of Mr. Ow vn's plan w ere equally defective, and cilicludeill by ex expressing his nituisti to oppose the Resolutions. Sir. H. la next ruse, a thai.der of hisses and alt. •.lause, but had 'Call rely p rarrviiril a step In fore he began to mtrodi.ce his piaitical koloinii.as. Ile was •iiiirrowit !tune, tvho ruse to order.— Mc. Hunt insisted that he vnii.lll nut be put duh 11, and ateat confusion casuist, %Lich was at