The National Register. — London, England, 1813-11-14 00:00:00

THE. NATIONAL REGISTER. NOV. 14. - MR. SUMNER WM proceeding to explain his object, when, mr Bathur , t onserved that there was no glicstion before the House. The SPEAKER then read the Motion ; upon which, 'Nit% SumwEit .said that his sole and exclusive object was to Iniug before the House the document on which a Noble Member had declared it to be his ;ntention. at a future period to ob4erve. Mr. %IANKE.S that teelitig the impossibility of adopting any other mode, c‘msistently with Parliamentary practice, he had himself as-osted his H ,, nourable Friend in drawing out the Motion hefore t:.e Hcitse. • Mr. TIERNEY was at a loss to conceive what inconvenience occasioned by the prodaction of the speech as a simple do-!.nient. .Rose detailed the hist , lty of the proceedings on the speech main- hy S•r F4 , tcher Norton 7i7. The whiting of that speech by no means implied the approbation of the Atomic. 1,0-4 Moues:Tit said, that having lnin so pointedly called upon by tbe lion. Mover, he must he permitted to :ay a tcw words on a inhit et in %%nick, as he had stated oil giving ois notice. the honour and dignity of Parliament were •.o deeply involved. Ile was not at piesciit prepared to lay before the House the seopo extent, Innen lets the teatne and constrnetion of the Motion that it was his iotintiiiti to semi it to them. This, however, he was prepared to say. that the speech made by the Speaker at the Bar of the !louse of Lords, conveyed expressions, which. both on Pat haute Wary and coi stitotional (rounds, were extremely qacstiouable, and which tle,ii*Yed the Sirious attention and the solemn investigation of a toll I tolise C. minons --a House of Commons which should contain those Melobeis who acre favourable to the measme to %void' the ex pi ession he a.lludcd to referred, as well as those inimical to rt Ii had Wet, too lung a Member of that +loose, and had too liv en-0y wit:l...se:l the general excellence of tLe manner in which t;rit indivilluid had discharged the high (tidies entrusted to him, to raider on an iiivestication (daily part of his otbend conduct w ills other seotiin( nt• than those of the deepest resp et. Mr. 1); IlvTnunsT showed, that the Noble Lord's conduct was calculated to place the House in n very awkward situatio n . For the Noble Lord had distinctly alleged, that the speech of the Hight Hon. 64 iitleman in the Chair, on the occasion alluded to, was ex tremely epie•tionahle, d et he proposed to postpone, to a distant day, the Oeeisioo of a viano. so materially affecting the dignity of the House and the character of the Hight Hon. Gentleman. Of the precise point in the Speuen, to which the Noble Lord particularly objected, he ( Mr. B. Iva aware ; but lie hoped that, in the consideration of that point, it was uot meant to discuss, by a side w ind, questimi of in d isputable importance, or to excite mid flame dissentiens and aoimosities which it was so tench more desi- iable to heal and allay. He had no hesitation in say but, that it would he nofair to mix the discussion of the Catholic question with the merits At . the motion to which the Noble Lord's notice referred, and with xklkien it could have no necessary convection. If the oli!. jest of the Noble Lord's motion was to cesisnre the Speaker for ;my • execs.- of ditty," or departure from Parham( Hwy praotiee. that • ought to tie stint(' at once, and immediately investigated, wit h out rat.: ring to the Catholic question. At whatever time, or ender whatever encomstaoces, it was meant to tiling the Noble Loid's notion under discussion, it was _fibs ionslv necessary to have the (locum( ut to which the motion before the lionse allude d.. Mr. AVILITBREAD !aid, that it seemed to he the intention to pre• vela tla• extension of time proposed by the Noble Lord's notice, and !iv following up the present Motion with something, to get till Of that in the contemplation eat the Noble Lord. Ile hoped that the Motion of the Hon. Gentleman would not he persevered in; he thought it more expedient not to produce' it till the time of the proposed debate. Lora CA6TLERCACIt 11101121 It the Noble Lord had placed himself and the Chair in a painful situation. Feeling on the sidiject of the Catholic question as much interest as the Noble Loud, and with equally sinee c and ardent wishes for its ultimate snreeSS, he thought no good c:inld result from any oblique introduction 'at it. As to the sentiments of the imputed speucli, he certainly must pro test against them ; yet he did not think that they might not admit of a very- ditli rent construction from that pot Nom them. It was impossible to conceive the Spc aker to have been actoateil by any imptoper motive; tior did he see how the Howe could amilyie a motive with a view to decide whether the Speaker's condoet had been correct ear otherwise. At any rate it was important. and pet frothy conskteot w ith 'impiety, that the House >lioulct lea‘e iu the most -authentic shape the document oil which they' should pro ct Mr. C. WI'NNE WiAled to add to the Motion, the words " for the use of the Members. Mr. TIERNEY Said; 105 Noble Friend had been uojnstly arraign rd as litivitta placed the Sve;.ker in a ph“.fit' s; li.ts Sin dker, I fact, had placed himself in that situation. Ms ea might hive been good, yet they Lppeared to dt serve animadversion, And investigation. whet* won::‘; be I,tst com.iteted- in ihe tid iest possible House. Indetd ) he thought it rai ver,sion tin aC k l 1 of the-House. Mr. Rs . DER and Mr. Aar: . cP.t.atni spcke iu fiiVolll rif the Mo tion. The SPFAKFR.—" Before I put the quiNtiort, I think it races... wary to say a very few %vigils. I fini:i.r:r plow to enter upon any vindication of illy conduct, merely liecause that is not question before the House. I shit be able to induce the foulest conviction that I have in no degree transgiessed the high duties ortny office." (Hear. bear !)—The ipiestion was then carried ithout a division. THANKS TO LORD WELIANGTON AND HI: ARMY, &c. Lord C sert.r.rt Emit' rose, and moved Votes of 'thanks to Mar quess iron, sir Thomas G'ah.im. awl the other officers and troops I:. Alitrio:c•s, similar to thwe it , ..Jee , l to this in the Upper House. Ilk Lordship spoke with fervent cxolta ; ion rat the high state of di-eiplinesm Inch the l'ortuotese and Spanish ; milik . h a d attained, deseant Ulf ;at huge on the valour they had dis pNycd at various places %%here they were cngage.l, and expressed the most sanguine hopes not oniy af the result of the contest, but • that the protection tat those countries itg•iit be left to the vigOrons coinage and growing skill of the native arnties of Spain and Per- fugal. The several motions were cart led non. con. and the House sd jou' neJ. TUFiIIAY, snv. 9. Mr. Loclut An r signified that lie vvi ! nld gi%e untie: of a motion on sonic future day, will' a view uf teinovieg.eci - tain object:killable parts in the lusolvoat Dcht..rz.' Act of last Se Aon.—Adjoartted. wrntiesn%y, N oe. IQ. The Moose being in a Committee of Supply, Mr. W. Ortinas ro'e to propose the annual grant of seamen and mai wes for the ser vice of the year; the only ditit reoce hetw ern the pre•ent vote amt . that of last session w fluid be an i nn eit%e in the ;;rant i'or the.vie.. Nulling, and wear and tear of the navy', ill con-equenve it the ad vanced 'nice of pi ovkious, and the exit oiled nature 01 the service. lie concluded with mu' tog, that there lie granted to his Majesty, tOr the servile of the prestnt )(al', I iO,OOO seamen, and 31,1e0 ma rines. .Mr. BARING was surto bed that some reduction was not made in our naval istablishini nt, considel big how little there was Or it t o do ; the enemy was not able to send a fleet to Sil * and )et it),(10(1 . CMltlil Halle sett asked than our establi•liment a l eoneted t o - a t the hat tle of Trafalgar. lie likewise animad t I i ver_ce, 11 NI "nl:4`. iCIIII%, .., On Re mode in which our natal warfare had hien eolatoetcd cut the coast of :lines lea, a mode which, he said, hail been disgraceful ._ to the country, both in a civilized and political point or vi e w. Amt.' lean to igates had been stiffen ii to go out of, and to corny into, their oo n plats w ith eil• , C. A t one time w e had no le-s than nir ty or forty sail of essi Is collected in the Chesapeak—a halllol - 11' 1% /10l those who knew it, knew the practicability of blockading. These din ty or forty ships were kept there ani-ing themseive , , or milkr foe.‘ ering the character of the British navy, loaning houses arid •I eds, and doieg, politically much injuiy. The war on the Laker . had also been conducted iii an efficient way—we had been dr:vers from L , !ke Erie, and Sir James VI o wa- without a et nipeteot terse to maintain our superiority on that of OntNiii). }k should lav no farther stress on these ;mhos at present, but wished to la) !him before the vonsideration of the House Mr. Dundas, Lord Castlereagh, and Mr. Croker, replied to the shark: of Ali.. Baring ; they said the enemy had 'lf) sail of tier roe. at l'onlon, %. - 7 in the Scheldt, and other force in the Adriatic, a t Brest, Chi s bourg, and the Texel.— Numerous-fleets w ere necessary to watch these harbours and to protect the conmierce of titter:lmm v. So tar tram having an excess of force, had it not been for the aid of the Russian fleet; Ministers would not have been able to send a tOrce to all - the quarters where the public •ervice required it. With 1 respect to the operations of Sir J. Warren in Anwriea, they bail operated materially to promote the success of the campaign, and Nlmisters were at any time equal and willing to reply to a n y. chaige of mar - administration, or improper warfare, on the American coasts.— the Resolutioes were teen put and agreed to. Mr. RAPIIKE4 brought in a Rill for seeming the Purity f Eli (lion in the for -- - -nd `de. - 'he read a seci.aul The II of lust rcutl lorosigh of Hektotie.—Read a tiist, and ortleieu •: lie time on Wednesday. lion. ileint;er then brought in hip Bill to continue • Aet Season ; preventing the grant of Sinecure Ofticeb u, 1%4 • • ‘171111,r