The National Register. — London, England, 1821-06-11 00:00:00

Mr. SCARLE'IT had not intended to allude to the hon. member I lie only complained of the opposition being placed on factious ground*. Sir R. WILSON had declared it to be a spoliation bill, became It went to deprive the poor of their remaining rights. If that were the effect—and he maintained that Audi could be logically proved—what else was it but a pour spoliation bill ?—(Hear.) Mr. CALCRA FT said, that his lion. and gallant friend need not be much alarmed about the bill, for he would undertake to say, that not one line of it would pass into law. Its provisions had been discussed in the poor laws committee, and it was found necessary to abaudon them one by one. Sir C. BURRELL spoke in favour of the bill, and ex pressed his regret that so useful a measure had been so severely spoken of. Petition ordered to he printed. CONSTITUTION AL ASsOC I ATION.—Dr. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from Thomas Dolby, a printer and Ipublisher, residing in the Straiid, complaining of two ndictments having been preferred against him by the self-denominated " Conatitittional Association." For I t years Mr. Dolby lied conducted his business without ex posing himself to the charges of the AttorneyoGeneral. The first libel was fur a publication he had ceased to sell. The association founded their proceedings on four recent acts, which acme innovations on the constitution. The first indictment was agreed to by Mr. Muriay,their attor ney, to be abandoned on certain terms—lo pay all the expellees—to have all the stock—and to agree not to sell any publication in future that might be offensive to this society. This was monstrous, butt this was the conduct of those whom lie would denominate conspirators against his Majesty's subjects. They, however, were a powerful body, and lie lamented to behold names that appeared in the list—persons high in the church, &c.—(Cheers.) — But as if their vengeance had not been satisfied, they In • intuited a second proccediug, and dragged Mr. Dolby a second time from his hunie; but this lie was not surprised at, when he saw what busy meddling fools were at the head of this association (Loud cheers.) On his con 'rejoice he believed that the object of the association was to curtail and destroy . the liberty of the press ; and not with the view of doing good to the country, but to promote their own selfish views. (Chem s.) He .I'olll.l support the petition, it praying the house to adopt measures to prevent such innovations on the constitution. Sir M. CHOLMONDELEY said, that lie was a sub scriber, but he had become such from a feeling against the caricatures that were exhibited. He had particularly inquired whether the association had any political views, and he was answered in the negative. He had nut been able to attend the meetingi. He had sten with regret comparisons instituted respecting the highest personages. Mr. DENMAN said, it was remarkable that this asso. cation should evince activity respecting libels on one party, and supineness as to the most infamous libels levelled against Another party. Some allusion appeared to be made to what lie load said in another place on the subject of a supposed comparison between Nero and a person whom lie was not permitted to name. He said that he should never forego the right of an advocate to piastre the course which lie considered most likely to promote the cause of lots diem defeat , mid to feat foul and infamous persecutions. (Hear, hear.) He load exercised that privilege in another place, and lie should never aban don it, The petition was then read. Mr. S. WORTLEY presented a petition from Sheffield against the poor relief bill.—Read, and ordered to be printed. Mr. S. VI'ORTLEY then presented a petition from Ha- Wax, against the duty on foreign wool.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. BRIGHT having presented a petition, moved that the extra-post hill be jointed ; and lie hoped that the bill Would ion he pressed forward till it should be printed.— Motion agreed to. A petition was presented from Ashton against the poor relief bill. Mr. SCARLET!' instanced a ease where a man had pre. ferred taking Os. Oil. (ro u t the parish to getting bs. by wen k. Petition read, and ordered to be pointed. The bill for preventing the adulteration of clover and other seeds was read a tire( time, and ordered to be read eceutid time on Wednesday, after Mr. F. Robinson had expressed the hope that the bill might be printed, that the house might see what were the penalties. Mr. WILBERFORCE gave notice, that on Wednesday next, lie Monthd submit his motion respecting papers ou theslave trade recently laid helm e the house. Sir J. M kCIN'IOSII presented the report of the dwell. ing-house robberies bill. Agreed to, and bill ordered to be read a third time on Friday next. The report of the navigable rivers bill was presented and eater(' to, and the bill ordered to be read a third time ou Friday. Tobacco Dtrtes.—Mr.LUSHINGTON brought in a bill for the better securing the duties on tobacco. Bill read a first tune, and ordered to he read a second time on Wednesday next. LONDON BRIDOL.— Alderman WOOD presented the minutes of the London bridge committee. Mr. RICAItDO presented a petition from Mr. Williams, we behave, of Glemorganshire, as to measures for the Amelim Allan of the pour.--Ordered to be primed. TOltoo.—Lord NUGENT brought forward his motion respecting the administration of justice of Touago.—Ae cot ding to the evidence of Mr. Capper, late Attorney- Getieral of the island, there were such associations amongst the legel officers that it was impuaible to do jiedice.— Mr, Capper tumid that if lie remained in the Wend, he must do cue of two things, either submit to such unjust practices, or lead a most uneasy fife. So circumstanced, he preletted tlitowieg up his sitaation, and on arriving in this country he represented the facts to the colonial departinent.—Lord Balbuist sent to the island for 01- fer111:111011. and the o ffi cers denied all the charges, and at tributedthe most tot wort by motives. His lordship then omit Into detail of the dreadful modes of imprisonment pinioned by the officers in the island. lei one instance, a a man, charged with assault, was found in • loathsome dungeon, and butt ril in the stocks, almost in a state of starvation, the jailer having tolerably well forgotten the pi ~.wit.rs. The excuse saes, that the pi homer waft ills4lll . ...lOW the recent act of insanity was the statement of the lade, and If lw lived and gained his libei ty, he would apply to the parliaineut of England, or bring his :Artois; tut ilamages.—(lle•r, hear.) ali. Cappi r eventually rib taieed the plisolies'a release, Altel staling. it . the MAO iiviL he would iadicl mii tile pasties for Ditiltki• His THE NATIONAL REGISTER lordship concluded with moving, that a melee committee be appointed to inquire iuto the state of the administra tion of justice in the island of 'luting°. Mr. W. SMITH seconded the motion. Mr. GOULIIURN opposed the motion. He would not deny that there might be some occurrences in the admi nistration of justice in Tobago that might be susceptible of some remedy t but he put it the noble lord and the house whether any advantageous resnit could be antici pated from the eommenceniant of an inquiry at the latter end of the sessions, when only one party could be heard ? After some observations from Mr. Batham, Sir J. Mac intosh, Mr. blarryatt, and Mr. Wilberforce, the house divided on the motion. The numbers were, for the mo tion 66—against it I 10—majority against it 44. ROYAL ALLOWANCEi.—Lord LONDONDERRY, on onr entering the gallery, was on his legs, stating to the house that lie had a communication to make to the house from Lisa Royl Highness the Duke of Clarence, sanc tioned by his Majesty. It was in the recollection of the house, that in 1616 the house adopted a resolution for granting an additional sum to several of the royal family ; amongst them a sum of 60001. was granted to the Duke of Clarence. Ilia royal highness then considered lie should not he justified in accepting the grant under ex isting circumstances, and declined it. Those circum stances no longer existed, and his royal highness felt that it was now necessary lie should t euew his application to the liberality of parliament, and accept of the grant then made to him by the house.. The noble lord then moved, that the resolution of 1810, for granting 60001. per an num out of the consolidated fund to the Duke of Cla rence sitotdd be read. This was done, and the noble marquis then gave notice, that lie would on Friday move that the house do resolve itself' into a committee of the whole house to consider the 6411 Mr. IiUME observed, it would be desirable to know what properly his late majesty left, and whether it would not be possible to provide for Isis royal highness's imme diate wants out of that fund, instead of imposing rut timer burthens on the public. Lind LONDONDERRY said, he should be ready to give every information on this subject on Friday, when the subject came fully before the house. AfiIWRICAN LOYALISTS.—Mr. COUitTENAY, in pm seance of the notice lie had given, moved that the house do resolve itself into it co 11111 l ittee to einisider of the claims of those American loyalists who had buffeted ill conse quence of their adherence to their allegiance, and who had not yet been re 1111 l 'misted. Sir S. MORLAND seconded the motion. .... The CHANCELLOit of the EXCHEQUER said that the claim now mgt.(' had been represented as resting ou tho.e principles of humanity, liberality, and good faith, so captivating to the imaginution, that no train's.: which recognised those principles conic' refuse to do them jus tice. The hon. gentleman would find in this house a dis. position to go rather beyond what was due to strict jus tice than to fall short of it. The principles of the act of 1762 would hest he known from the preamble. Procla mations had been made Im America, calling on persons to preserve their loyalty, and promising to indemnify them for their losses. Mr. W. tiNI EDI strongly animadverted ou the language of the Chancellor uf the Exchequer, that pi omises held out by our commander of the American loyalists during the con test might be interpreted according to its success. When he read tine words of these promises, he found nu mention of success or failure, but an unconditional promise of indem nity. lie could not therefore eliatiacterise any departure from these engagements, otherwise than u a complete breach of promise. But the right hum gent. said, that it their claims were now granted, they would receive complete in. demnificatiun, which uu other class who suffered by the war had received. This he (Mr. W. Smith) denied. Who were these American loyalists 1 Persons who had been obliged to quit their hunter., and who tseie declared traitors to the new government, on account of their lidelity to ours.— Though, therefore, they received pecuniary compensation, they could not be indemnified for all their losses and suffering. But their claims had been cut down on a forme, occasion to one third, and of that third they only received hall. When the right hun. gent. compared them w Oh British creditors of the Americans, he ought to have recollected the difference between the tan classes. British creditors had not risked their lives like them, to maintain the cause of the mother country. But it was said the country could not afford com pensation. When this plea was advanced, the house ought to look at the votes of the year, and the sums granted to individuals who, however des ruing, were not inure so than the persons whose cau-c he plead , •d. Mr. couRTEN AY replied, and the house divided— For the motion, ri I Against it, 00 I Majority, 17. Mr. COURTEN AY theu moved that the house should itself' into a Committee to consider the propriety of au 'address to his Majesty on the subject of the claims of the American loyalists. Mr. CREEVEY opposed the motion, as it referred to • grant of money, it being !mat 12 o'clock. Mr. COUKTEN AY consented mu withdraw his motion for the present. YORlCaltlab; Yoi.ts Buda—Lord MILTON having moved the order of the day fur the second reading of the above bill. Mr. DENNIAN expressed wish that his noble friend would postpone the second reading of the bill to a period when it could receive niore ample discussion than it pos sibly could at that late hour of the night. Mr. C. WYNN suggested that it would be desirable for the noble lord not to attempt to piers this measure during the pi esent session. If the indite lord would consent to po.iiintie the third reading of the bill, lie (Mr. WO would nut object to its going into 4 Col.lialtlee. Mr. 111011;01i IM, aft( r speaking in favour of the principle of the bill, expii,seti lit lope that his amide iettil %%wild accede to the pi ',position of the lima. gent. Lord MILTON then expressed his inteniun nut to entry the IlleaSlite into edict hula next sts•loh. The bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Friday. The house then adjourned at two o'clock. THURSDAY, JUNI.; i. Mr. HOSHOUSh prevented a petition fiirin Liverpool agaitot poor 10% it' hill, iiiij.l:llll'" to ail par ii of it, eirept that which regarded acttlrutent. He wav afittitl be could not .upport thi, lid! He thought before the hotoe interfere %%oh the pour lams, there ought to be tome lulu 'He litAN W 01411111; ellugnijjoi),11:1VIAM1 1111 , j 4111 i .nine put ticularl) touelting the va..Jatit Mr. ItitOUtiliAM adverted to the prime pl., of Mr. ScarL:tt's hd.. It tar_ bill weie iarrita la its picsr..t twin 179 it would, he contended, go to establish two classes of pool one burn before a particular period entitled to Mier, nay the other born after that period nod out entitled to and relief. This fact *Moe, he submitted, showed the difficuliy -of legislating on .he subject. Mr. S. BOURNE admitted the force of what had been stated by the lions and learned gentleman. One result of the bill would be to deprive legitima►e ohjecta of relief, of any assistance, because the funds might be exhausted sad could it then be allowed, that the person applying names cessfully for relief, should be treated as a vagrant, which which, under this bill, as it now stood, he would be, Mr. HARBOR!) opposed the bill. He condemned its principle; the bill, be maintained, proceeded on the system set forth by Mr. Alidthus—a system which he conceived to have been most successfully answered by Mr. Godsrin. Mr. HILO UGH A M hoped this que•l ion would be discussed rather as a matter of science, than as a political measure.— Great mischief would result from adopting any arguments of factious nature against the bill. It was most necessary the poor should feel convinced, that the house bad no other object but their interest and comfort in view, in the rejection or adoption of the measure now under consideration Pet i t ion received and ordered to be printed. Mr. Aid. WOOD moved, that there be laid before the house the result of an iliqu;ry into the conduct of the I lc hewer jailor, laid before the Sons, rseishire magist rates. Orclei ed. WOOL TAx.—Lord MILTON gave notice, that in the event of Mr. CUM en obtaining leave to bring in the agricall tund horse tax tepeal bill, and sit h bill being read a second time, he should move, that it be an iintiuction to the com mittee to introduce a clause to repeal the duty on forelgo wool.—( Much laughter.) EXCHEQUER, IRELAND.—Mr. S. RICE postponed hi► ' motion respecting the illegal fees stated in the ninth report of the eomuissi'nrrs of enquiry, to be received in the Itlsh taint of eXehequer. Mr. ABERCROMBIE said it was an important motion, and it was also as important that the character of the Lord Chief Baron should stand in its true light ; and with that view he had intended to address some observations to the House, in the event of ministers being present. But they had got their supplies, and therefore they did not seem to deem it essential to attend. lONIAN ISLA us —Mr. HUME rose to bring forward his motion on the subject of the lonian Islands. He lamented tout all his Majesty's ministers were absent—(hear, hear () The hors, member having spoke of the state of the lonian I•lands previous to 1816, be proceeded testate, that atsuch period Sir T. Maitland arrived in the Islands. By the Islanders he was hailed as the harbinger of peace. All ap. plauded him—all expected the most tattering things frum him. It was agreed that the senators should remain with their eXiNtiog powers till a new government should he formed it but, instead of doing this, Sir T. Maitland hume diately disau-sod the imitators, declaring them to be " cor rupt," ellhoujh they had done nothing. Sir T. Maitland had made the goVerunsta what he considered to be most arbitrary. Sumo of the senators were eventually condemned to prisons. Besides these things the liberty of the press was was completely destroyed. There was hut one press, and that was at Corfu; and even an advertisement conld aol appear without being previously revised by the censor. ,The lion. member then proceeded to notice what ►e deemed various acts of the government of an arbitrary and cruel character. They were referred to the tribunals—but, strange to say, Sir T. Maitland was to have the casting ante. and in elaborate reply he decided against inquiry in case of confis cation. That proceeding alone, the him. member cootesided. if there were no other, imperiou•ly required that hiquiry should be instituted. He concluded with movingall address to his Majesty, praying him to be pleased to appoint a coat. mission to inquire into tho state of she lonise; Islands, the conduct of Sir T. Maitland, the cause of tranquillity being disturbed, etc. Mr. COULBURN resisted the motion. The statements had already been thrice refuted ; they were founde I in mils. representation and falsehood; they were not such as would warrant the interference of (tie house. Mr. BENNET l' replied to Mr. ooulburn. and contended that no s3swer bad been given to the statement of his bons friend, at least nonejustitiwitory of the conduct of the Lord High Commissioner.—He then proceeded to a repetition of the charges made by Mr. Hume against the government of the lonian Islands, and contended that the lonians had been oppressed in the severest manner; their petitions had beer wholly disregarded, or, if answered, answered by an armed force. An individual had been tried on such a charge as no court in this cou n try, from the Court of King's Bench to the Coma of Pied Poudre, would have entertained, Namely, a a C harge of being suspected to be a suspicion , Per Mia. lle coucluded by declaring his opinion, that the system of go vernment in these island, should he changed, and th it the power of the Lord H ig'a Commissioner should be controuted. Mr. EVANS condemned tile policy adopted towards the lonians, and supported the motion. Mr. J. P. UltA staid, that as he could not see any grounds of charge against Sir Tnoinds, he coul.l not support this inotion. If the charge aas distinctly against that boc. offices, unconnected wait the eirors of the constitution, he would support the 1111 l thin for inquiry, would all that hum olbcer's friends, fully t onvinced he %%mild e • out of that inquiry with honour to himself. Bat the Lord High CUM ' inissioner had acted under the direct iims of the constitution —a constitution which had re, eiv,..l lIIe sanrtiod of his Nlajesty, and which, therefore, it wes Ilse ditty tat the Lord High Comunisiimi•r to obey ; fur tln.se reasons he shoo-ii I) pose. the preo•iit 'notion. A very lot.; dctiato took p'nr.., after which the hmknis divided—For the motion, 21 I Agiriast it, 97 I Majority against it TO. Sir It. WILSON presented a petition from W. Ileubow, bookseller, Strand, a loch stated, th'it he had been as rested on the 18th of May on a judge's *arrow, and that he was a prisoiirr in the K In.'s Ditch •prison, mu t h e p ns , .n noa of a set of erinspi,alui, them/ Ise. the Cuu,lmitional A-- soridtion, vi loom o err 1.031 e of the gnat OnleCrll of st •te, and who had ninny tiiousatul pounds at their disposal. lie complained of lii. great :•:silerileg and eapesire to w uieb he had been •tilij cted l their pritermliiigs. The pa Imola wa, laid on I , le Lahte and ni del rut to Ile printed. 011 lilt 11101101 i of Mr. Chet opine. leave ori,4ivesi to bring in a bill to for ihrtte imionaiy Ili lit eriitriili before .. .A ir ,. o f the peace and others. Tilt• :•11111! huu Iliraltber Ibell 111011 , 11 for leave 1.1 bring a bill It/ fettliate .saJ G.cdUnie Illt• 11.111,111,,ti , r 1 dt1 , 1 , 5 . 1 1111 l and iectigiiihcae. from .iii tel 31.1•11 , t, of via tirlivri v. m,„ CH ET %k VN DE l b nt h both the hid's, it hit . It we!, r,..1 that time, and order dto Is. read a .Cued lilac tan 1.1,g0t.1n, Au uou. ftleumer, (uhn-e mime we chi out !ea.n) ka%tr (FOr connotation Cr pap'