The National Register. — London, England, 1821-06-03 00:00:00

170 a ••C THE NATIONAL rISTE a described by the lion. and learned member (Sir J. M.) was not such as ought to exist in a British colony. The society of Newfutmillaud, however, it must be remem bered, was divided into two classes—the mercantile and the seafaring classes. Naval officers were considered as most likely to be competent and the best judges in the latter cases, mid therefore such persons were appointed. He believed, so far as he was iiiiernied, that the courts in question had done nothing that was not essential to the well-being of the colony. 1)r. LUSHINGTON maintained that the case where 30 lashes had been twirled hail been ',renowned to be 111k1411 and cruel; even if it was defensible at law, what said the principles of humanity to it? Alany cases proved the necessity of inquiry and reform in the colony. He called on the government to institute investigation ; to reform the jurisprudence, before something like universal reprobation compelled it. Mr. W. SMITH said, that the system called loudly for examination, especially when such cases took place as those that had been mentioned i the punishment that had been inflicted was such as no freeman ought to suffer. Mr. mpacityArr adverted to the necessity of reform in this island; wherever the English law could be intro duced, it ought to be established. Mr. WILBERFORCE spoke in favour of the Spanish law as it had shown itself in many instances; it was in practice, and in practice most humane. Petition read, and ordered to lie ou the table. Mr. CUlt WEN gave notice, that on Friday he should move for the repeal of the agricultural horse tax. Mr. HUME presented a petition from an individual of the name of IVilkinson, complaining of the expensive mode adopted to collect the taxes, which collection amounted to upwards of 4,000,0001. a year. The peti tioner recommended the adoption of direct instead of indirect taxation, pat ticularly the imposition of a property tax. The lion. member consideted this subject to mein the most serious cousideration et the heave.—Petition ordered to be printed. 011 the motion that the London Wharfs bill be read a third time, Mr. HUME expressed his intention of moving a clause, to preserve to individuals and to the public all existing rights of way, &e. The bill being read a third time, Mr. Hume proposed the clause accordiugly. Mr. CALVERT resisted the clause. He denied that the bill went to deprive the public of any rights that they now enjoyed. As to the clause, it %Cut to nullify the bill. In pretetence to agreeing to the clause, it would be better to negative the bill. It dad not go to touch or interfere with any street, alley, or way now enjoyed by the public. The clause was then brought up. Mr. HUME again defended the clause. The clause would secure to individuals the rights which they now possessed. Mr. T. WILSON supported the clause. In the com mittee, there was no objection to secure existing rights, but there was an objection to justify die wrongs of those who ;night have heretofore committed thesis. Tate house then divided. The numbers on the clause were—Ayes, 7—Noes, S 2. The bill was then passed, and ordered to the lords. Mr. SCARLETT moved, that the Poor Relief bill be comtnittvd, to siihniit some clauses pro firma. Mr. MANSFIELD hoped that the bill would not be pressed forward this less' ; there was in the country a very general sentiment agates; the bill. Mr. SCARLETT replied, that his information was of a different character. Mr. CALCRAI: f gave notice, that when the bill next came forward, he should take the sense of the house as to the principle of the trill. (Heat.) He should not trouble the house with the details; he was against the principle of the bill. The amendments ;sere agreed to, and the bill ordered to be taken into further consideration on Monday next. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved, that the house, at its rising, do adjourn to Wednesday next.—A greed to. SUPPLY.—ARMY.—The house, on the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, then went into a committee of supply. Mr. ARBUTHNOT moved, that 137,0001. be granted for barracks, &c. Cul. DAV IS opposed the grant for so large a sum. It became those who did not wish to see the country over-ran with barracks, to resist this vote; nud he maintained that upwards of 10,0001. on the regular expenditure might be saved. lle said there also might be great saviugs in the de. partmeut of barrack-masters. lie then adverted to the jobbing which was goon- forward in the item for new bar rack. & c. at Stockport:Paisley, &c. Although not a shil liug had been advanced,' nor a stone laid, barrack-musters. and the cost ary appendages lad been appointed; and such jobs too were the acts of those who commonly pienclied up that they wade all possible savings. Though such was their language, their practices were of a cuutrary character; they, in tact lust no opportunity of creating places and sinecures.-61ear, hear.) Ile concluded with moving the reduction or the stint to 59.0001, - . . . • Mr. ABUTIINOT &tended the employtneut of barrack masters.—As to the expenditure fur the barracks, he was not personally acquainted with it ; but he thought the c 44444 troller of the barracks' chsracter was u seem sty against ex. tiitvagaitt r, peliditUse. After an ettended conversation, iu whirls Mr. Hume, Mr. Williams, at:. strongly opposed the grass', the cu 1111 l sitter the Weil On the amendment. The nusnlstrs were—ayes 29 ISMS 53—the tOrivnilMent was lust by a w.,jorily of 24. P. Alt tiUTIIN UT Inca proposal a giant of :MO,OOOI. fur coutusgeracies. Al r. 11 U M E warmly oppowd this proposition, niaintaiating that the House uu;;lit liist to he more particulat iiitorined of the manner its which the Art/Akan. foinserly solid had been expended. lie limiter adverted to the necesoi) of of s account of the late Icing's property. Mr. 111.\ MAN considered 260,0001. at: too lar c h a suns for I lie coolingevtics of the present year. Li the I.isl ne t smuts there were 40 GU.): charged...lr cavences of ille pro. went ion of lir' Maj.'s') This cc as aa expeuce whims oak' nut occur again; would the new of liktUr)i. to Con stables and tido," ult. ndiuti 0:1 that ore:olio'', or taut of 5,01.)01. and 11 , 0001. to SS so. Cour.ena.), Esq. to purchase Laud of the corporittam of Lundots, whereon to creel buthlis.l for the tOnstillablOnerli of bankrupts. '1 here Was also a charge of 15,0001. tor it brilliant diamond plaint', a presont to Use Persian A aslnessador. When all these iedue• wits, and Wale odic,, which ht k wild point out, wile made, lie did not cuissidcr Ilse ieduction plapusied by his Iwo. friend Ile *could tin:saute rause to seduce tlAt d, rant ' to w Z;° - 9inpertai V arittantnt. HOUSE OF LORDS. DIONUAI, MAY The royal assent was given by co iiiiii ission to the fol lowing bills:— The Scotch Revenue, Scotch Adniiralty Courts, Scotch Admit shy Courts of Session, Timber Duties, English and Irish Militia, Irish Bankrupt Laws Regulation, SIC4III Engines, Irish Lunatic Asylum, and a number of private bills, 14 in all. The commissioners were, the Lord Chancellor, the Duke of Montrose, and the Earl of Shaftesbury. The Saleoats Harbour bill rind the Westminster Im provement bill were read a third time, and passed. Mr. Biogden and several members from the Commons brought up the Crown Lands Revenue Improvement bill, and a Road bill, which were read the first time. The Earl of LAUDERDALE gave notice, that on Fri day lie should move the second reading of the Sale of Bread bill, and summoned the lords for that purpose. — Their lordships were accordingly Amounted. The Earl of DONOUGHMOREsaid lie had come down to the house for the purpose of opposing the bill for regu lating the mode of taking f:•es in the courts of justice in Ireland, but understanding the discussion w onkl not come on this day, lie should postpone his observations to Wed nesday next. Lind CALTHORI'E moved for a return of all commu nications trout the lords commissioners of the admiralty to naval officers in the different stations relating to the slave trade, between 1819 and 1821.—Ordered. Adjourned to Wednesday. WEDIESDAY. MAY SO. - - - The Irish Election Fees liul, uod London Wharfs Bill, were brought up from the Quonset's and read the first time. The Jurors Attendance Bill was read a third trine and pissed. The Earl of DONOUCHMORE rose, pursuant to notice, to address the house on the bill upon their Lot dships' table, to regulate Courts of J ust ice in Ireland. The object of the Bill was to pay the officers of the courts of Ireland by sala ries instead of fees. Nothing could be inure unfavourable to practitioners in the courts, who would not he sufficiently rentuntrated by that triode. The general practice had been different. The fees were regulated by acts of parliament, and the parties were entitled to the benefit of the law as it stood. He concluded by moving an address to his Majesty, praying for a return of copies of all communications be tween the Right Hon. U. Grant, Secretary for Ireland, and the officers of his Majesty's Courts of Justice, relating to the alteration of fee. for the discharge of their duties. Lord SIDMO UTH observed, the bill was founded on the report of it cominittee, and the of was not to let them go on with these fees. The Noble Viceount added,that there were three bills lying on their table on the same question.— On Friday he should move the second reading of the three bills on their Lordship.' table, The Earl of LIMERICK supported the provisions of the the bill. The noble lord had stated that perscais were de prived of patent ri.iltts, but he understood that the parties (wily held their others during the pleasure of his Majesty, and that they had nu vested rights which the Bill could take away. He called upon the house not to delay the bill. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was impressed with the necessity of passing this Bid ; at the same time he wished the question to be discus , cd by a full house. Lord Donouglimore's motion was then agreed to. Lord SIDMIOUTH Dien gave notice, that he should move the second raiding of the bill to Friday. Adjourned to Friday. UIDAY, JUNE I. The Marquis Cholmondeley v. Lord Clifton.—Counsel were heard in this case, and further proceedings post poned. A gentlemen float the admiralty presented at the bar co account of all the ships of the line and frigates building and iu commission; also an estimate of the expence of the works at Sheerness dock. The Earl of LIMERICK stated, that a noble earl (Law derdale) who bad given notice of his intention to move the second reading of the bread bill this day, was unable to attend the house, therefore wu desirous of discharging she order for the second reading, to fix it for Tuesday.— The second reading was accordingly fixed for Tuesday. The Earl of LIMERICK also gave notice, that he should move the second reading of the Irish rates of in terest bill, and the Loudon wharfs bill, on Tuesday. Mr. W. C. Wynne and several other members front the COIIIIIIOIII brought up the Irish inland navigation bill, and several other titivate bills, which wets read the first time. The Marquis CHOLMONDELEY laid on the table, by command of his Nlajesty, the answer to ass address for papers relating to Site slave trade. The papers were also laid on the table by Lord Melville. The Earl of LIMERICK said, the noble secretary (Sidmoutts), who had given notice of the second reading of the hist; eons is of law hill for this slay, hail found it would be more convenient fur the hods who wished to speak on the bill to attend un Monday. He therefore fixed for the second mailing fur Monday. Earl DARNLEY presented a petition front two indivi duals residing in Armagh against the Irish coroner's bill. Laid on the table. The house adjourned to Monday. 1101. 1 SE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, MAY :ItS. 'lke Morse, soon alter three o'clock, was summoned to attend in the House of Lords, to hear the royal assent Eisen by co 11111 l ission to sundry public owl private bills. —Oct. Lou do.] ibc hid' Election Regulation I.ill,and the Hoblin Cual What hill, were lead a third Hutu and passed. Mr. WltOrrlistAA obtained lease to bring in a bill to authorise hen icgtiletions of the tontruissiuncis of bank I opt s, Sir J. piesented a petition, n iiiii erottsly rigued, loom Newfoundland, etinipl g of the mode of administetiugjostive. The petitioners portimilaily mom planted of Inc Cowls of Suirogates, who were in the habit of applying the lash lu ruses of contempt. Ile in sta.tecel one particuiar ease, where the court ordered Zia loslics, the ',Hence being contempt. Haring strongly raged the neee:sity of "Minot in the moats in titicsituti, particularly respecting the ponds to %%Inch he advcitcd, he inured that the petition lie brought tip. Sir J. NE wpotrr lin. minium and urged the necessity of attending to the pia)cr of the petitioner*. spoke of tic ti IU u.hi e. that IllhA die &location nosy Inutight beroie the littu.e. A. W the cosasstwisits that had beet. urged, lie was tat e to cow ri le d the syst,ri, urban:a vslaitii bon **Lehi a_ .. S- ' • - • Mr. Huskinion and the Chancellor of the Exchequer de fended the vote originally proposed. A division then took place on Mr. flume's amendment.— The numbers were— . . For the amendment, 77—Against it, 106. Majority for the original mutiou 20. The sum of 10,0001. was then voted for Edinburgh college. Upon the grant of 40,0001. being proposed for the Peni tentiary at Milbank, Mr...1011N SMITH observed that the law had no reason whatever for the existence of this prison. The honourable gentleman also objected to the situation in which building stood, which being below high-water mark, was very unhealthy. Mr. MABERLY could not twee to the proposed grant. The house had already voted 400,0001. for this establishment ; and if the interest on this suns were added to the principal, it would be found that the penitentia y had cost the country. 500,0001. What could have been the object of the projec. tors of this prison, noliss to burden the country with a shame ful expense, he did not know. Ile found from official documents that the expenie of lodging each man at the penitentiary was 251.; and the suns paid for food for ea r l, individual was 541., making a total of about 501. per head. He would now contrast Otis expense with that incurred by keeping primer:l on board the hulks and Botany Bay. The honourable gentleman then proceeded to calculate tho expense which had been incur red by seudiug convicts to Botany Bay, and maiut•' g them there, which he stated to amount to only 101. per annum for cads individual. Ile did nut see w hy the country should pay SQL fur that whirls might be accomplished for 101. The hon. gent. concluded with moving that uu stun whatever should be grunted fur the penitentiary. Mr. 110LFORD stated that the building was at present in an imperfect state, and could not lie completed unless funds were granted by parliament for that purpose. The reiolution wasagreed to. Mr. IRVING moved that a tutu of 20,6151. 12s. W. be granted to Gen. Desrourneaux, as a compensation for losses which he sutured when acting its the British interest in Gua daloupe 171.14. Mr. I'. MOORE said, as it was now 12 o'clock, he should mova that the chairman do report progress, and ask leave to ■it again. The house then resumed. The report was received and ordered to be taken tom cousideration on Wednesday next. Mr. BUMF: put a miestion to the Chancellor of the Ex chequer relative to the lowlier its which government inserted its advertisements in the daily journals. Ile wished to know a heater I he system of confining the advertisements of govern ment to the government papers, which had been so generally acted upon in Ireland, had been introduced inks Englund.— He asked the question, because he had observed that fium papers of a certain description these advertisements were carefully excluded. The Tinses, for instance, had not had a the government adverti cmcnt fur the last 18 months. The CHANCELLOR of the LX,CIi EQU ER replied, that every office under government selected the paper in which it advertised, There was un order from the treasury to ex clude advertisements from any particular paper. Mr. HUME said, that if such were the case, it was a strange coincidence that all the public offices should have combined to exclude their advertisements from one parti- cular paper. The other o ders of the day were then disposed of and the lattice adjourned till Wednesday. WEDNESDAY, MAY SO. Mr. WHARTON presented the report of the committee appointed to try the meriisof the I'cter►beld right of election► petition, a hich declined that such right wus in the burgesses and in the trecitolitet li Of lands, houses, anti tenements within the taid borough. The house went into n committee on the inland navigation bits. . _ Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW presented a petition from Charles Batt, stating that a lady bad lost her deed of marriage settle. mem, and praying that an office for their ri teption might be established, as iu the case of wills—Ordered to lie on tbe table. Mr. WARNE complained of the introduction of the extra post bill after one o'clock on Tuesday. The bill had been strongly objected to; but it was not only read u slut time—it was also ordered to be read a second time this day. He should muse that the order of the day be discharged, and then 'that the bill be printed.—lie wished to know what the bill was. Mr. LUSHINGTON said, it would be better to postpone the bill till Monday, and to detect in the mean time that the bill be printed. The bill was ordered to be read a second time ou Monday and to be printed. Mr. M. A. TA I LOR row, pursuant to notice, to bring forward his motion, respecting the court of chancery and the appellant jut iadiction of the house of Lords.—A committee had been appointed to enquire into the state of the court. and it was Mond that 634 appeals were rift the papers of the iiuuse of Lords, which could not be disposed of in less than ten years, There were 105 original causes before the Chancellor, and 34 appeals for re-hearing. To remedy this evil than brad laid his sugeestions berme the house. Ile hud resisted the Vice Chancellor's Court, which gave the poises of appeal to the Lord Chancellor, but resistance was vain. What hail been the consequence I There were now 116 ap peals fur re-hearing. It was natural when suits %vie against them, fur parties to desire the opinion of the nohle laid huldiug the grc..t seal. As to the present 'node of appeal, it was none at all ;—it was only an appeal Prow the Loud Chancellor in an undress wig to his Lordship in u lull-but mined wig. Ilis lordship was in the habit of say ing, if Ills , :eCi.4.011 *Sett: disapproved, there was uu appeal to another place; but that is as 11111 an appeal to his Lordship after he lisd changed his nig.--ktlede, and a laugh.)—W mitever might he the result of his 000 (IOU ; he should persevere--he km* that lie stuud on a ruck—tie knew that no lawyer could contr.e.ene what he stated. (hear, hear !)—lle con eluded ts 111, 1110VIii,z, find the house do, early in the next sesi.l 111 l , lake lira subject into Cllllbltlefill The Nlartidis of LONDON pliltlt said, as to the pro. pswitson, lie tlinumlit it, genealy speaki,ig, nunire tu detei intim' in oat' Stieol/11 what tim, would du i i ;mother. With respect to hue motion, at went w holly ro elisio,;i: the "thee of the Lind Chaucellor—to separote that 'minis sant loss °dice Isom tile catniirt, iihd to alter the ciiintitat ion of the 110115 e of Lut ds. All tins might be proper; but he thought Mit II reform ought not to he :Alined hastily. Some remarks hod !seen made ue: the Vice ChAncellor's COW'. ; front :di he 11,,i1 understood, that Court 1%115 elllillelllly siiercssral. Tney might not to ,jade by the nullifier of appeals, but by tile quantity ui iinsiiww really got rid of. Vs oat lie desired, ins pet Wetly haus med as he was as to the sulsj,-ci, ads, that the mutton would be is ithdr.os n for the piCb4.lll. It the motion welt out willsiliosso, he mould wove the previous questions • -