The National Register. — London, England, 1820-05-14 00:00:00

4.4 P-4 114 • • amp trial fadiameng. HOUSE OF LORDS. MIDDAY, MAY R. BRSISTANHOPB gave notice that to Morrow sennight he should bring (award a motion for the appointment of a Com mittee to enquire into the best means of employing the Menu tacturing Poor in the Manufacturing Districta, and moved the Lords to be summoned. The House was accordingly s ummoned for the above RurpOn. The Earl of LAUDERDALE moved the printing of several Returns made pursuant to the order of the House. Mr. Alcuck, ft.;:ri the Treasury, presented Annual Accounts of the Consolidated Fund.—Adjourned. TUESDAY, MAY 9. Fouttow MINISTERS.—The Marquis of LANSDOWN gave notice, that he should move, on Friday, for an account of epee expense of Foreign Ministers during the last ten years. • The House then adjourned. WEDNESDAY, MAY to. The Lord Chancellor attended the House at eleven o'clock and heard Appeals. His Lordship th en adjourned the Home to riday. FRIDAY, KAY 12. The Marquis of LANSDOWN KW, Innuonnen of nn !jots to move an Account of all dairies and Allowances pan to Foreign Ministers time the last ten o. OtheraL Itewrincrtvia ACT a.....FAd DARNLEY ems to make the motion of which he give mime ease days *ma Tbe Lords would recollect, that 'ken the nraiedvi aseaulth was soda consideration. it was urged by the advocates ti those theasittal ti.at the existing Lew wee net stalldeady strong to cheek awl ). =WI offenders. He bed skits rams es believe the reverie el that proposition. Several perms bad beeneestheted under tbe old Is ws. .uid not one under the sew laws. The Noble Had esselu e, :1 by moriug, that there be laid before the House an Account i„ all convictions under any restrictive Act e( rarliaras% passed ;'.:cc the Ist of December, 1819. The motion was agreed to. The intention of the Noble Earl is to submit a meek* to the th;u7c on the subject. ComrtsiNT AGAINST TUE BISHOP Or ENITIN.-4. o td HOLLAND rose for the purpose ofSubmitting to the House die Petition of the Rev. Mr. Jones , complaining of the superior inVm.iThe Petitioner was a Clergyman of the Chinch of d e regularly ordained. Some months back, a county wing of clergymen was held to consider the claims of the Banana Catholics. and to petition Parliament not to make can moans. The Petitioner attended the seam& and delivered a Spaeth in answer to one made by a Reverend Friend. Some tune after he was presented to two livings in the diocese of coln and Peterborough. He received testimonials of moral conduct for three years, according to the rules of the Church of England. He submitted those testimonials to the Bishop of Exeter, Bishop of um diocese, who refused to countersign them. He then solicited an interview with his diocesan at Exeter, to know his reasons for refusing to countersign. The Reverend Prelate stated, that his reasons were not applied to want of competency, not to want of moral conduct. but in respect of certain words he uttered in this meeting of clergymen. He then stated that he offered to give proof to bis diocenan that he never uttered the words imputed to him. The person whoinfonned the Bishop was never confronted with him, and the consequence was, that be hod been compelled by honour to surrender this living, to the sesetmt of nod. per sanum.. He further staled,. that the loss tithe }Meg bed been the total destructies of the poefotsional pr ate of bin Ns. Lord Holland unsaid at oroodosabla earth is. the stotenti of the Petitioner. The words whisk hal ban Isaac* es the Paine, owe, as Ind Holland shier aid, an aril= that olsoithe of as Clergy o=o in emoting to efts truth of Sit Arnaila's Cradt to what they did taw believe. Anoti sionee he was apposed to have mai, was stated to be this—" In dm Maio Coie of the Church of Rase there is not, a mesa demnobls tMeesfaie than the Athisian Csood, and iiarnendia d rho dergyntas do not believe it." The Noble Li contondad it die Patine ought to have been alkerod the opportunity d explaining. awl that the roost Lai:able censtruenon ought to have botanoton his explanation. He concluded moving that a Cu---in be so take into consideration by the Petition tithe Rae. Jobe Vie!' . miern:ng the refusal of his Diocesan to countonSpi his sodwiesund eesamonW. and isrspoetliereon. . The Padden was then read, whichdetailed the matters before She The Bishop "VIOLIST= did not wish to enter into the detail made by the - iroblo Lard, but to take notice oldie allegations.— When the Petidoser pass id his testimonials. the Reverend Prelate refused his camas signature ; at the same time he told him, he knew what his hip were with respect to the Roman Catholic persuasion, and begged him to understand, be bad nothing to do with those opinions. If he mused his counter signature. he had exudes* a discretionary power. The Reve rend Prelate refused to sign the testimonials, upon a belief that he should become a party to than. He nad no hesitation in :aging. the Petitioner might have a remedy in the Courts below. Lord E RSK I N E spoke in support of the Petition. After some debate the motion was negatived. Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY, NAT a. The Liverpool Street Bill was brought in and read a first time. A Bill for the Lighting of Wolverhampton with Gas was brought in and read a first thne. Mr. S. W Ott 11. a. Y presented a Petition from Manufac turers, dm. from Huddersfield evilest the Wool 'fax. He added that a Noble Friend of his iiitended to give notice of a motion for this evennig f r the repeal of this tax. Lord MIL 1 ON enquired whether it was the intention of Government to repeal the late wool taxi if not, to-morrow ire'nnigbt be should move for leave to bring in a bill‘o repeal that tax. Mr. F. ROBINSON replied, that he was not aware of any such intention existing; the notice would of course timed. The Marriage Act Amendment Bill was brought in, read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Friday. CITY CO tIMERCIAL PETITION. Mr. BARING presented a Petition from a numerous and most respectable Body of Mei chants of the City of London, praying that commerce might be released from many of the rartrictions imposed on it. We had lost much trade, nod instead of its having goae to one particular country, it had gone into all tile misses of Europe. There were ouw many eosapelituis. In such a State of allow., lie saw nu re. medy but io returning to the old maxim of Commerce. How evils were to oe r• invdted of wire, besides ieveitiog to the old unrestricted maxims of trade, be could hardy devise; but he did ii .1 propose that there should be ugly sham baiter of the Coin L...., established ;—b iwever, this he might say, that 110 laws, 111/ 1/111,4 could MISI:110 any 'Daimons' price or the i ambi is 'lithe cotoitry. Hr g iev. dto see 111 C Agri/rotund! Armor...ikon .1114iiiteDio. But lie paiticolarli lamented to 'emu what events had taken place its Seotiaiiii, aid to Iscertion ti at many tit the niainitat turn'. them, eqieeisilly in the neighbourhood of Paisley, were prep.oilig to withdraw from them. The Country could not felllitlll as rt WP, and there tens no hope of trade reviving its former -% THE NATIONAL REGISTER. S a "4 position by any exertion of it abler the present system. It was calamitous to behold the Goversimeut going on front year to year as it did, seeing it, with regard to trade as to aeances, trusting to the ensuing year. When questions of 1 1 ;,;;;;:z;-; : pe e red to stand by with the import mow ;4 , view of seeing where there was the more interest, and bow they could best retain their places.—(Cheers)—He wished to see this conduct changed ; he wished to behold them come down and meet questions like Statesmen.—(Hear. bear °— The Wool Tax was likely soon to come under damask's', and then they should hear what the Ministers had to say; but he was astonished to hear the Honourable Gentlensio (Mr. Robieson) declare, without having heard one word of the discussi 11l i . that it was not the intention of Government I t o make any alterati4n in the tax. Much must be done before relief could be obtained. Tilers: t!!"! be a revision of the revenue laws an abandonment of restrictions on ilea; and a giving up of the idea of growing every thing amongst ourselves.—(Hear, hear I) '"he timber trade was labouring undermost pernicious regulations. He understood that there was a falling off in the Customs for the last year of upwards of a million and a half.—(Hear o—The Petiti oners recommended the revision of all the tottrietions, as best calculated to promote the general interests of the country. He believed lie had mentioned the main topics of the Petitioners. lie trusted that the House would take them into consideration, to see whetb..r any relief could be given by so extension of trade. If it were seen that the House took the subject into consideration, examining the interests of all, with the view of promoting the advantage of all, the country would derive satisfaction from a fact, that could out fail to promote a desirable good understand iug.—(Cbeers.) The Petition was thee brought op and read, Mr. Baring observing, that he had &similar Petition from the Chamber ' of Commerce. Edinburgh. Mr. P. GRENFLLL having complimented the able manner in which the Petition had been brought forward, said that he approved of all the principles coat:slued in the Petition; and that in or out of the House he should be must happy to do all in his power to give effect to the Petition . . The Mon. F. ROBINSON admitted that the subject war of great importance. He had expressed the opinion, and he now repeated it, that the system of restrictions was founded in erroneous principles but be 'could not think that these principles had been adhered to more with the view of keeping their places, than from any conviction of their propriety. But though he agreed in the Hon. Member's main principles—and that improvement might be made.... yet a change could not at once be effected. The system had grown up in a lung progress of time, and it was deeply rooted. After some extended remarks from Mr. Ricardo, Mr. Marryatt, &c. the Petition was ordered to be printed. CIVIL LIST. The CHANCELLOR of'the EXCHEQUER, as late as nine o'clock, presented the Report of the Resolutions regarding the Civil List, without entering alto much de tail; and he moved that they be agreed to. Lord J. RUSSELL opposed this motion, contending that iavestigathin ought to precede the adoption of such opinions, and that it was the understanding .0 1818, that there should be inquiry on the demise of George 111. and on the rearettlemeut of the Ci;iil List. He hoped lie had said enough to induce the house to go into an inquiry on the subject of the Civil List; and be should therefore conclude by moving, as an amendment, that the word " now" be omitted, and that the words " this day week" be inserted. Mr. WARRE seconded the amendment. When the civil list was arranged its 1816, be had thought inqniry essential; but now, at the commencement of a new reign, he thought the subject still More imperatively called for investigation. (Hear, hear.) The SPEAKER having pat the original motion and the amendment, Mr. HUSKISSON said, in the first parliament of a new reign, such an inquiry as that proposed by the noble Lord was likely to be received with great favour. But lie would tell the noble Lord, that, in the practice of former reigns, there was no precedent for such an inquiry. There was no thing in the circumstances of the late demise, or the pre sent accession, whirls could be urged as a reason tar taking the civil list Ullt of its ordinary course. It remained fur the hoe. gentlemen opposite to show iu what particu lar the sans granted uy parliament to the Regency, for the due support of the splendour of the throne, had beeu too meets, taking into account the increased expenses which had at that time devolved upon it. It was upon those grounds which he had endeavoured to make out that lie should oppose the motion of the gable Lord. He felt satisfied that there was no bead of those expenses, to which the noble Lord's speech had alluded, which Parlia ment was now fairly called upon to remodel. Mr. TIERNEY said, this discussion came on under circumstances of a 'nature perfectly unparalleled. It regarded hie appropriation of a suns of 1160,000 i. at a period of public distress entirely unprecedented. He did not know but that the result of an inquiry might lie to establish the charge et the civil list at what it was ; neither did be know but what it might be to show, that it should amount to less thins what it was by I thou send pounds: but this he knew, that if a saving of only one thousand pounds could be effected, it should be adopted. (Hear, hear) Now he begged not to be understood as at all stating that such a saving could or could not be made. That was to appear by the report of such a committee as be wished to see appointed. In a bill to provide for the regulation and indiutenauce of the royal household, her Majesty was altogether excluded. The giounds upon which this exclusion had bete made, they might some day have an opportunity of discussing, but he must consider it as most extraordinary that her Majesty was times situated. The grounds of such her condition were beyond all human comprehension. She was to be considered, and lied been recognised, as Queen of England by the Lord Chancellor, and by one or ' two other e iiiiii ent inaisideals, and, happily for herself,wds represented by his hun.und learned friend (M r.Brougliam). It was, indeed, exi ram %heavy that there should be this omission. Hr insist say, that lie never expected .o be called upon to vote fur a bill to provide fur the mainte lidliCe of the Royal ?Amity and Household, out of winch the QUerli of England herself was to be excluded, alter bring recognized by she Lind High Client:Our. He wined let this pars s hut he could owl help observing, (het either her Majesty was very hardly used, or else that its Majesty was very hardly used. Of what wheelie, d did this large suns of J 5.1,00.1. consist ? Suppose it were re presented by Lord Liverpool and the Chancellor of the Laebequer, that his Majesty wished to add to his pro- 4 4 ' • ' - 1 r 411.- 4410 __—.....mmewsssllssilslsvlmmool petty at Brighton a considerable extent of land, and the • , it was fit that t h e sum of 20,0001. should he 111iid into the privy purse tor that purpose, who, after at arab so paid, mild be called upoc to account for the appropriation of the money? Did the house think it right that such a power of making direct presents to his Alajesty should .exist ? He did not mean lo charge the present government with any endeavour by a circuitous mode to obtain the money themselves, for; inch was not the fashion of the times, amid he sincerely believed they were limp*. ble of It; but it was clear that they always possessed the means of currying the royal favour, and tamper. leg with the royal feelings in this way. Suppose ally one at the ministers had given offence to be soverei gn , and wished to make it up by a little money paid into the privy purse; according to the present arrangement he eosin do !!, ide:l2: l, t.eurt, he 414 not suspect that it could bare the desired effect. He knew nothing from autho rity, but it was a common p thin what every body Bailment be true to a certain extent; and would any man deny that his late Majesty died worth a great deal of property ? This property must have been saved out of the civil list; and was the country to be saddled with a heavy civil list, in order to enatile the sing to make savings? True it was that his late Majesty had a large family to provide for, bet no such motive existed ht.lbe present case. At this moment, every farthing saved to the station was of importance, and what pretence was thee for granting one single sixpence beyond what was necessary? Then, why not inquiry what was ue cessary, and surely the enormous sum of 383,0001 . was of itself a sufficient reason for a minute investigation. —The lion. Gentlemaa here went iato a minute aad taut argumentative detail of the immense sures that should bb deducted from the amount of the Civil List, on account of the death of the late Kin 4, Qirees, Princess Charlotte. and Ouke of Kent, and concluded by saying—" An oppor tunity like the present may never, perhaps, agile occur, for there never was a moment so favourable fur obtaining popularity oil the purl of lift Crown.--(Cheers.)-1 am i confident of this as I am of my existence, that if his Majesty had not been surrounded by those who A are him this bad advic.., he would have stood in a very different position be.ore his people to that which he now occupies. (Cheers.) Every man must be aerate that the country looks a lto great anxi• ty to the deliberations of the Blithe on this • question; nut merely because it is agitated at tile commute went of a new reign, but because it *ill take the decision as au earliest of the intentions of Ministers fur the future.— ( Hear, hear 1)—I say, and I ray it Wiwi the fear of coo tradiction, that there arc large ems, which, if a proper inquiry were set on foot, might be saved to the country. I say, too, that all ranks are bound to make sacrifices; and, by going into this committee, the House will ut once set an example that its great object is ecoowny and public relief, without spanng any quarter, whether high or low. (Cheers.) get it do its duty honestly, f airly, and impartially. I have done mine, and I repeat that I have nut dune it without great pain to myself. I implore the House to listen to {the complaints out of doors, to entertain the proposition; and I entreat Honourable Gentlemen, before they decide against all inquiry, to consider what they owe to those who seat them here. as well as what they owe to the tuitional tran quillity and the security of the Howarth." The Right Hon. Gentleman sat down amid the cheers of the Home which lasted for some time.) Mr. CANNING contended for the propriety of passing the Civil List as it was arranged in NIA Some further conversation occerred at this point between Mr. Tierney, Mr. Canning, and the Chaucellor of the Exche quer, but in so indistinct a torte that it was not audible in the gallery. A division thee took place s the number were— For the origioal question....... For Lord J. Russell's ameadritent 157 Majority On our re.admission into the gallery we found Sir J. NEWPORT very warmly protesting against the passage of the vote of 275.0004. for the civil list of Ireland without inquiry. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER remarked, that there was nu altimition its this resolution from the old Civil List. Mr. TIERNEY said a few words; after which the reso lution was agreed to. The other resolutions were also adopted, and the hillsordered to be brought in accordingly. Adjourned at twelve o'clock. TUISUAT, MAT 9. Mr. GOOCH presented a Petition from landholders of Suffolk, numerously Mimed, praying for protecting duties against the importation of Foreign Coro. Mr. GOOCH then presented a similar Pelitlon from 40 gentlemeu serving on two Grand Juries in Suffolk, and a •lar Petition from persons resident in Ipswich.—Seve rally read, ordered to he on the mile, and to lie printed. Sir W. LEMON presented a Petition from Agricnlta• rusts in the comity of Cornwall, complaining of distress. Mr. COKE presented Petition from fanner& Is Norfolk. Mr. HOME SUMNER presented a Petition front farmers in Surrey, complaining of the distress of Agricul ture—distress which was but too manifest as pervading the whok kingdom. He gave notice, that WI Tuesday, May SO, he should move to refer the Agricultural Petitioto to a Select Committee, to ascertain whether any and what relief ought to be afforded. (Hear.) Mr. U. W. HARVEY moved for an account of coin belonging to a person named Thompson, seized in 1511, by revenue o ffi cers, and how the same d been disposed of.—Ordered. CRIAMMAL LAWS.—Sir J. M'INTO3II rose, pursuant to notice, to move for the revival of the Criminal Laws' Committee, and for leave to bring in six Bills to amend the Criminal Laws, according to the recommendatiou of the former repot ts. Mr. CANNING should not oppose the motion. To support the Bills be should not pledge himself—but there would be no objections to them except where they were seen to be actually necessary. Committee appointed. Sir J. APINTOSH then moved for leave to bring in Rills to repeal la Aim, which took away the benefit of clergy for privately stealing in dwelling-houses; 10 and 11 Will. 111. for privately stealing in shops to the value of .is.; 21 Geo. 11. making it capital to steal on Navigable elvers; slot to tepee' certain Acts creating capital felo nies specified therein. Motion agreed tu, as well as leave to bring in a Bill to consolidate the laws respecting forgeries. sir J. ANNTOSH afterwards brought in Iris several Criminal Laws amendment Bills, which were read • first time, and ordered to be reed a second tam Nay 30. ...