The National Register. — London, England, 1823-02-17 00:00:00

= Ell ~~ IT I sio 4"- 4tokt : 4 ' l " - Sturertal HOUSE OF LORDS. • MONDAY, Pt& W. ••• Lora GDANTLLY took the oath and his seat. The Earl of COVENTRY presented a petition from the mer chants, bankers, and traders in Worcester, against the Insolvent Debtors' Act. Laid on the table. The Duke of SOSIERSET moved that his signature might stand to a protest under the following circumstencest—The noble Duke was in the House during the debate on Tuesday last ; but not being present when the question was pat, the f ul orms a the house made his signature to Laid Stanhope 's precast Th y War l • - - as motion was agreed to. %MILLION Act' AMMODMEXT RNA of SH AFT ESBU Y raid, the noble Lord t Elkin borough) who lad given notice of hie intention to bring in a Bill to amend the .Marte Act, being unable to attend in his place. had doiced he (Lord ShaßeAmry) would lay it on the table. The noble Earl had DO obaereauons to make on the provision* of the Bill, but 'hyoid merely move the first reading. 'flu Bill was accordingly read the first time, and ordered to be printed.--Adjourned. ITUILIDAY, TM 11. Lord GRANVILLE promoted a petition been the inerdumts, hankers, and others, in the town of Wolverhampton, fora repeal of the Insolvent Debtor's Act. The petition was read and laid on the table. Lard ELLENBOROUGH gave notice that he should move the second ending of his BiU to amend the Marriage Act, on Monday next. and that the another day foe the next stage of the bill. Ile added, that be should take cars to afford their Loedahips suilkient. time for thither consideration of the measure. TEURIMAE PIE IL Mr. Mason, been the Directors of the East India Company, prestetiod the annual account of pensions, allowances. and super. army boss, granted by the company since last session of fat homing & also, - da . proceedings of the Court of Director*, as to adlowinuses to COMM ship o.iners.—Laid on the table. Mr. Myam. from the Commissioner* for the reduction of the mul bjectcted debt. presentat ew an account of the sums applied to that y. LordHOLLAND presented a petition from the bankers, merchants. erode" and ',habitants. of the town and county of Notlingham, rupiahs a repeat of the linsolvent Debtors' Act. —The noble lad widths signatures to the petition were highly "liar le. HOLWID den profaned a petition from the mer chants and ins ofGaineborough, in the County of Lincoln. praying foe a repel of the Insolvent Debtors' Act.—Both peti tions were read and hid on the table. Lord COLCHESTER presebted a petition from the clergy of iCelebetter. praying foi a repeal of the MaMarriage Act.—The peti ole' was laid on the talk.. rILIDLIE TIE 146 Several iiski were heard. Mr. He s, Clerk of the Crown. in Ireland, attended at the bar. with the return to • writ issued pennant to an Act of. Par liament, fix theelasties of a temporal of Ireland, in the mom of Stephen. Karl at Cashel,. deceased The writ and learn were read at the table, and it appeared. that Edwud Viscount Lorton had been elected a temporal pow of Ireland. In the Noma the Earl of Cashel. Mr. Tierney, from the tax office, presented an account of the asbuiet, allowances. and ether emoluments accruing to the Receive» General of Taxer. The return which was made pus. slant to the provisions of the 31 of Gouge IV. was laid on the table. Lord STOW ELL. presented a petition fremthe Archdeuxunry and Clergy of Berke. against the Marriage Act. The Howe adjourned to Monday. MUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, liPte. 10. A new writ was ordered for Winchester, in the room of Mr. Leigh, who bee accepted the stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds. A petition was presented from the potteries in Staffordshire, praying for the establishment of a Court of Requests.—Re (erred to a committee. Mr. CURWEN waved fee iceman/ of seals everted to INSOLIIENT DCHTORS.—Mr. IL SMITH presented &petition friss the hankers, be. of Lineally, praying for the repeal of the Insolvent Debtors' Act.—He complained of the prejudicial operation of these acts, observing, that within 16 months deb tors hid got released from debts to the anal: of 4,000,000. there being assets only to the amount of 10.0001. being about threelarthings in the pound. Mr. HURST expressed himself ahninst repealing the acts, but did not deny that they were susceptible of amendment. Mr. WILLIAMS declared, that the petition required the serious attention of the House—thee the present acts undoubt edly bad the approbation of all the knaves in the country—and Ho it though it was not required to revive the old laws, be maintained that the acts called for amendment*. _ . Mr. LITTLETON said, the acts bad been of very Hurl° a nperatim , and that unfortunately, according to them, debtor could not easily release themselves from their debts. I Mr. T. WILSON expressed himself in favour of the petition. Mt. Alderman WOOD observed, that one great objeet of IYe acts was, to check the facilities to obtain credit ; but the advantage had been pined at much too dear • rate—and the conseqeences were so serious, that something ought to fin done by the House. Petition read sod ordered to be printed. Mr, LITTLETON presented a petition from the Dean and Chapter of Lichfield, &c. praying for remuneration for losses ■ustsined M couseigoeuce of the New Marriage Act, which had curtailed their privileges sod advantages in granting lire•cee. Those jerisd.otions merited attention. Read and ordered to be printed. lir. WALLACE gave notice for Wednesday for the revival of the committee on foreign trade. TYI ME SYSTEM, IRELAND.—Sir H. PARNELL presented • petition from the Grand Jury or Queen's County, praying for a commutation of Tythes. lie spoke of the importance of the 'abject, and lamented that it was not at once likely to be brought forwinsi by Government. Ireland had for the fir►t time been mentioned i• the Royal speech, without having ocdasion to call for some severe measures. He hoped that Mr. Hume would postpone his euntemplyted motion for the present, as were likely to be adopted which would render such motion unnee sssss y. Colonel TRENCH spoke in favour of the petition. The pre vent system was injorioas to the interests of the Protestant Church, as much so as they were onressive to particular individasla. -- Mr. V. FITZGERALD said, he shook, have In present a si. milar petition front the county be represented. If the subject were likely to be brought liaward by Government he should mainly attribute it to the manlier in which the subject was re ceived in that House last year ; but it would be desirable to know whether any conciliatory measures were in contemplation. Whatever Was dome be hoped the rights.nf the church would Ise retuned;—it bad moat to ha* haat reritatraace is.. -.. • - . the Constable's Mr. GOOLAHRN , ilkwutd , iDeonveniest ‘ ead nu. ceasary to IS istio Gm .quatimillOW• The Government of Le land had been sedulously antabos to move those veils that were complaiued of; and he would add, that a measure on the subject was Ls a very forward. Wale, and that. on an early day, he hoped to be able to submit it to the House. Mr. S. RICE wished the right lion. gent. hid been a little more explicit. The me f lut jeer they knew ; and what good bad been dose t—Such was the state of Ireland, the rights of the church and the [MeV could not be preserved, with decided reform on this subject. Except they bid some better idea of what was contemplated, he hoped his ben. friend (Mr. Hume) would not postpone his motion for an boar. If they had not some explicit answer the sooner the )?roceeded ad versely the better; war mighty wrinkle dulareo atones. Mr. Secretary PEEL expressea his regreast the morllke cha racter of the just delivered. it bad bees that a s r f i ch measure was ly ready ; more could not be out prejudice to the station. Mr. HUME said, so far from censoring the warlike language. that it was impossible to think or speak on this 'object without warmth. The * unatlensen opposite bat possessed the Govern meat of Ireland for 2i years, and, though this bad been a cryiag evil, *bat bed they dose? Nothing ; nor had the right bon. hos. gent. (Mr. Peel) dose any thing, The government bud thought of, as a remedy. an equitable rate to support the church. That be should resist. He was for making the church property support the church—property that would produce upwards of four minims a year if properly mewled. That most be used before he could acquiesce in imposing say new tax to support • the chords is Ireland. He could sot ousest to postpone the motion of which Ise had give. notice. Alf. Secretary PEEL said, that possibly ibis week would sot elapse before polies would be given of the Government's mea sure of a commutation of tythes. Mr. S. RICE was glad to hear of & measure for the .• com mutation" of tythes; that was the word be wanted to bear from as official person. Ms. GOULBURN said his mauve was %%promote a " coin mulattos" of tythes.—(Hear.) Petition ordered to lie on the table. A new writ wu ordered for Fermanagh, is the room of Sir S. Cole. Lord A. HAMILTON observed. that his notice was foe March IL on the subject of the Scotch rep ratios. Mr. PEST. presented his Majesty answer to the address. Mr. GREN FELL moved for returns of bank notes, bank post bills. &c. sow in circulation—of exports sod import, of copper, &c. Mr. WHITMORE postponed his motion to the 26tb inst. respecting the corn laws. Lord 110THAM gave notice, that be Amid to-morrow move that the House be called over whenever the Catholic claims came on robe dimisited. Mr. COMMA% gave notice, that to-morrow he should move for leave to bring in a hill to reduce the Irish staff. Returns of grain warehoused were ordered to be laid before the House. MABERLEY, in Moving for papers, said, that tames to the amount of sic or seven millions might be repealed with advantage to the public credit. The Chan cellor of the Exchequer midd intend to repeal to the amount of len millions—it might be safely done ; but he bad only to ask of gentlemen opposite not to pledge themselves to the Government till they should have beard him as well as the Chancellor of the Exchequer. (Hear.) Amongst the various papers he should move for would be returns to show the state of the income of the country, and the operation of taxes ; notwith standing the diminution of taxes, the taxation, instead of being about 15 per cent. now was in the ratio of MI per cent. (Hear.) A 4 to the occupiers of the soil, their means were gone ; he be lieved that where rents were paid, thew were paid out of ca pital. The reduction of two'or three millions of taxes would not he sufficient ; JI the sssss sed taxes ought to be reduced.— It vu a species of intrume tax. Ile pledged himself to show that lazes tattle amount of 9,000,0001: might be forthwith. re duced. He concluded with moving for a series of returns. of of the assessed taxes, property taii,.Stc. Mr. P. GRENFELL asked whether the hon. member had it in contemplation to propose any renewal of the property or income tat ! There bad been some rumour on the subject out of doors. _ . Mr. MABERLEY instantly replied ins the negative he should propose the total repeal of the assessed taxes, but he had no substitutes to propose.—Papers ordered. Mr. HUME moved that various accounts presented that day, respecting the sinkiii,t fund, be printed, expressing his regret that the farce and delusion should still exist. Mr. GRENFELL said there was a pledge last session to revise the system, to bare the account embracing surplus of income end expenditure. Mr. LUSHINGTON slid it was the intention of Govern ment to realise such pledge. The LORD MAYOR defended the system of the sinking fund—a system that had enabled us to meet the enemy, and that had been copied fn Aunties' and France, and in all repre sentative governments. Mr. LUSHINGTON said the speech just uttered had given unmerited importance to the subject. What was to be done was to simplify the question. Mr. MABEILLEY was glad to beat dine mach, for a more tricking fund did not exist ; if all were paid off, there was not one farthieg belonging to the fund. Papers ordered to be printed. Mr. LUSHINGTON moved that the usual annual finance accounts be presented. NATIONAL LIBRARIES.—Lord J. RUSSELL cap d the hope that, to promote the interests of literature, there would he • building appropriate fur such purpose, to receive the library presented by the King to the nation, he. Mr. PEEL acknowledged tilt his Majesty had presented the library as represented ; but said, that nothing had been deter mined about a new building. Mr. W ILMOT moved fur various returns about the colonies. Mr. W total' moved for an !wheal of the value of iner eltandise exported to the East and West Indies ; merchandise rc-esported, Ati . Mr. BROGDEN presented the report of the expiring laws cummittee.—Ordered to he printed. Tae remaining business having been disposed of, the House adjourned. _ _ TUESDAY, FEB. 11. A eew writ was ordered for Arundel in the room of 'Mr. Blake, deceased. Mr. LITTLETON presented a petition from ►he merchants sod traders of Wolverhampton against the insolvent Debtors' Act. Alter tame remarks from Lord Althorp and Mr. Hurst, it was read and ordered to be printed. Gee. SASCOYNE presented a petition from some merebastP, ......... teferrei *o a lighting of Plymouth with gas. Also referre'd to * committee. Lord HOTHAM moved, that on the 20th inst. the Honer be called over. with the view of securing the fullest possible attendance ea the disouseiets of the Catholic question.-- agreed to, Lard ALTHORP gave notice that on this day se'nnight he shoo!d submit a mistier' for the more effectual recovery of small debts. Dr. LUSHINGTON presented a pathless, complaining of am ends, return for .Sligo.—Ordered to be taken into cossideiedow on Thursday, March 13. IRELAND.—Mr. GOULBURN moved for leave to bring is re bill to continue and amend the Irish Yeomanry Act. Mr. HU3IE wished to know whether the Constable Aet would not render the Yeomanry unnecessary. He had under stood that the corps mainly consisted of " Orangemen ;. so that whenever they were called eat, they increased rather theta di minielied the difficulties they were required to suppress.. If the yeomanry were to be continued be hoped the repents would not be so great; for, according to the returns, akar* were put on pensions if they required to retire, or.if others eremite be promoted, although the pensioned parties wereasltealthy as he was. This was a moat shAnseful abase. Some esspeiry might to take pl ,ce, especially into the *spent* of sesusiaat . brigade majors. He hoped would not be allowed to pass till the House knew why eerie** individuals bad been placed on the half-pay list so shamefully. Mr. GOULBURN could not reply tench details new ;they more properly belonged to the discussions with, ens, estiametme. —lf, however, those matters were to be discussed res the bill, Ise should berealtee be prepared to meet the ipostiee ; end he thought be shoe ht ha able to give each expbuiatieste as woad/ be satisfactory. Mr. ABERCROMBIE thought these matters ought to be discussed before the hill was allowed to pass.—Bet he hatt• viewed the case with much eexiety, recollecting the promise critical and alarming state of Ireland ; for these yammer, hod. so conducted themselves as to make themselves viewed wish suspicion. He trusted that the House would sot berry this. bill, because when the Attorney General (Mr. Plaskett) arrived. be felt that. such individual would lose no time is subanittieg to the Howse some account of the present preemie's- etude or Ireland. He did not know that such would be the ease; he only.felt that such was likely to be the resell. The conditions" of unfortunate, unhappy Ireland was such as is give rise to the greatesialarst, and he considered that it was due to the people. of Ireland, that their case should be submitted to the Perlis , Mee L—(Hesr.) Mr. GOULBURN did not desire to hurry the bill through. the Meese; be only wished that the measures relating to lrm heed should be ow the table of the House as early es possible. Mr. V. FITZGERALD must enter his protest against the gassed sweeping censure directed leggiest all the yeomanry of 'island. Their services bad been illustrious in manyiestarreem. —As to the yeomeney universal y, eonsbiting of " Menem's,' it was not the ease ; the Clare yeomanry had not many Prot** seta le it—certainly not any Orangemen. In the south of In. heed, he was persuaded there were very few Orangemen is the- its corps.. With respect to the state of Ireland, he felt iti importance as much as env men ; bat the question would he —ought sot the yeomanry to be continued Mr. S. RICE observed, that the vindication of the South of Ireland did not altogether refute the force of what had been said; there were 30,000 yeomanry, and of them 20,000 were I. the province of Ulster. The Orange processions, miniver ' series, arc. ought to be prohibited; and, if such proceedings. imeld not be prevented, he hoped that in this bill care would be taken to prevent persons with arms in their heeds, being: engaged - . in such processions and celebratiess. The modes agreed to.. Mr. GOULBURN, in moving for leave to bring in a bill to continue the Irish Arms Act, said, that care would be taken to prevent arms from being put into bands of improper persoes.— Motion agreed to. Mr. F. LEWIS moved for leave to bring in a bill to mewl the General Turnpike Act.—Agreed to. WINDOW TAI.—Mr. HOBHOUSE gave notice, that after the Easter recess he should resew his motion for the repeal of the Window Tax, provided there was so war, and that the re peal of the whole or part of the amassed taxes should not rea der each motion unnecessary. Mr. HUME wished to aseertaimhow mach, it any, of the Russian Dutch loan, in 1814, bad been repaid; and with the view of ascertaining the fact, he moved for accounts of such loan, interest, etc.—Agreed to. CROWN LANDS, IRELAND.—Mr. HUME mewed for a copy of the commissioners report respecting this crown lards asti quit rents in Ireland. Recently some reports had been made ; be wished them to be submitted to the House. He sboolit hereafter propose that those crown lands be sold to pay off. the debt ; they produced 63,0001. a year, hat if sold they would produce 2,000,0001. He expressed astonishment that the tri ennial report of the crown lauds bad sot been submitted to the House , those lands he should also propose to be mid for the public benefit. They were now used to promote corrupt pa tronage. lie concluded with moving for the Irish reports. Mr. HUME then moved for the produce of sales of quit reefs, and for a series of aueounts respecting the Vice Treasurer and his Orem SUPPLY.—Mr. LUSHINGTON moved that proportions of his Majesty's speech relating to the supply be referred to • committee to-morrow. Mr. HUME wished to know whether they might have, with out waiting fur the custeniary estimates, the items of the con templated reductions? Mr. LUSHINGTON said, the forms of the House would net permit him to comply ; they were the items on which he should have to submit motions. Committee to-morrow ordered. M. W. SMITH moved for accounts of extents in aid issued. —Ordered. Mr. S. RICE moved for returns of sums issued by the come missioners in Ireland for the employment of the poor.— Ordered. Mr. LUSHINGTON moved for an extensive series of returns of sugar, coffee, and rums imported, ho.—Ordered. The House went into a committee on the West India Train Ad.—Report to-morrow. SCOTCH CLERGY.-Mr. HUME gave notice, that to-morrow be should move for returns of the stipends of the Swatch 'ler', in 1750 and in 1822. Some Finance papers having bees presented, the Howie adjourned. WEDNESDAY, FEB. 12. Mr. Canning and Mr. Ilerries, the new members for Harwich, took the oaths sod their 11C114. Mr. C. on entering the House, proceeded forthwith and took his Neat on the treasury beach. without waiting for the customary introduction and oaths—a form of etiquette that occasion:ll considerable laughter =mega the members present. NATIONAL REGISTER ear.)—Se spoke of the successful operation of &a. of Liverpool fur an oil-gas owl Act. comenttee. URN said ihmord be ieconvenient,und unne- A petition was presented for the light " ' ' i I -, . _ . ~i