The National Register. — London, England, 1821-04-16 00:00:00

petition from a maw eased Hill, confined in Ilehesta Jail, crows debtor. co! of the hardship of his ease, and the enmity of his t.—Read and ordered to be printed. Mr. Aid. WOOD that rose pursuant to his notice, to bring forward his motion he the appointment of a select committee SO enquire into the state of Ileitesterjail. After an extended sonveration, the chief peculiarity of 'halt was, whether the proposed enquiry should be by a abet committee. or by a commission; it was determined to address the crown to ism a commission, directing an enquiry into the state of Ilcheeter jail. ARMY Ricelmairas.—The house having resolved itself into a committee of supply. Mr. HUME proceeded to contend that the charge for four adjutants general was more than was necessary, and urged reduction on this head. Lord PALMERSTON contended, that the appointment of the officers in question was a saving to the public, and that as great a reduction as possible had taken place in the office. In In 1806 the expcnce of the office was 7ssoo l . — in the present year it was only t,lool. Mr. J. SMITH said, there was an item of 4681. charged for superannuation to an hon. hart. as retired clerk in the war office. He wished to know how a man could be superannuated, and be at the same time in active service ? Lord PA L M ERSTON said a few words in explanation. After a few words from Mr. Tremayne, the committee divided on a motion of Mr. Hume's, to reduce the proposed great of 6,0441 to 5,3141.—The numbers were—for the amentintent againstit 83—mdjority in favour of the orignal motion £9. On the item of 6,1641. for the quarter master general's office, Mr. HUME opposed this grant, as excessive. In 1803 these was no such office, and in MOS the expense was 9601. lie would now move to reduce the grant to 4,6921. Lord PALMERSTON said, the hon, gentleman was here caught in his own toils, for this office we. precisely what it was in 1798. In tBO3, when the hon. gentleman said there was nu such office, the expense was in fact upwards of 70ou1. Mr. lIUME contended, that on reference to the report of the finance committee of 1813. his statement would be found to be curl act. After mine observations from Sir H. Vivian, Col. Davis, Mr. Hume, Col. Johnson, Sir Lowrie Cole, Sir R. Ferguson, and others, the committee divided :—For the amendment, 60—• Anst it, w4 — Majority for the original sum M. On the item foe granting the sum of 920 L for the Quarter Master General of Scotland, After some conversation, the committee divided, for the aamdmant,s6—....Against it 98--Majority for the original motion, M. On the item for granting 51901. to the Judge Advocate General, Mr. C HET WYND propelled to reduce it to slBOl. On this motion a long conversation followed, and the house divided on several amendments, on each of which divagate similar majorities appeared far the original motion. The CHAIRMAN then reported progress, and Lord PALMERSTON intimated that the remainder of the army eStinlAtes would be proceeded with myriday. Adjourned. TnUISDAY, A6*IL IY. Boaouou LAMBTON pre sented a petition from Lyme-Regis. praying for the restora tion of their privileges. The petitiouers stated that it was a borough by prescription ; that from Edward I. to Lieu. I the Freeholders within the borough had votes; that at such period they lo.t such privilege I and that since about thirty persons under the influence of a peer, returned the members. He moved that it do lie un the table. Mr HOBIIOUSE lamented that the hon. member had not moved to have it referred to a committee of privileges ; the allegations were of such facts us were violations of the law. Whatever difference there might be about reform, here they ought to be but one opinion. Here was a distinct charge against some peer, and therefore he should move as an amendment, that it be referred to a committee of pri vileges. Bir J. GRAHAM said, the proper time of complaint would have been against the return of thu members ; stun added, that many of the Electors were must respectable. As to the charge, there were many Gentlemen opposite who hail been returned by Peers. Mr. HURST observed, if the facts. were believed, the house were bound to refer it to a consmitiee of privileges. Lord LOWTHER remarked, that the matter c 'denied of bad already been tried by committees of the house; and he should therefore oppose Ilta amenclineut. Mr. LAMBSION, adverting to what had fallen from Sir J. Graham, said, the time was--nod not lung since—ellen a member stating that other p erson had been returned by peers, would have been cald to order. Now, however, times bad changed ; it seemed that the fact was to be ad mitted at last even io that house. Mr. HUSKISSON observed, that the petition bad been very properly put into the band* of the lion. member (Mr. Lewiston); but as It complained of no specific case, be should be neatest its being referred to a Col4loliller, Mr. MONCK observed, that if this did nut contain a charge gattjuist 14 peer, ao petition bad ever contained such cherge t and if the house did nut interfere here. whatever might be the seutisnent amongst themselves, be knew what Must be the opinion uu the subject out of doors. litraugera were thou ordered to withdraw, when a division took place. The nurnberr were—Ayes 3s,—Noes 89 — Majority against the amend • rut 49. The ;smitten was then ordered to lie on the table. Sir a. MART IN presented an account r e f p cn.iuna , su p e r. Iltrlutatiops, 4c. previously orderttli Vevey Laws,--.Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW, pur-uant to notice, rose to move fur leave to Wing ouster the causatera. ;inn of the house the propriety of altering the lime re-Again. ing the rate of iliteN4. hence said there was no o easiuti to repeal these laws because they were successfully evaded; but there was the disadvaillage of such lows imposing au society an eiltirmoU. expense, iu rai=ny moncy on lauded * s tales, gic. To the provreturs of such estates the repeal Of those laws would tie a great beiletit. He eonclu t tod wit h moving fat lease 41 Wing u bill to repeal arts teguid.sog the oiling of ii.friez Mr. DAVENPORT hoped dos learned sergeant would withdraw Isis atutinn, fee 1 1 ., was persuaded that the experiment would he a most thus gerous nue, sir R. HURON also said, fiat the measure "Vas or 111100 Mischievous charactet I and if such a bill were passed, he should move to lave it caned, a bill jur the more speedy rniuing of the young nubility and gentry. That would be its operation. Lord ALTHORP said, alum was no groend for alarm ; the experiment might now he vely solely tried. He could nut ateduint for the anakty Absei l mate as issead, tie was persuaded that It was quite ill fowled. Mr. Mr. J. P• Grant, Mr. Ricardo, and Mr. Maack, supported lieu Mr. Guidon and Mt. CalOrtel ‘ 1, 0 13 10Y el , Peied the motion. Motion agreed In leave given to bring its fist Attutt h a v s. Set gond ON SLOW tonved ins lonic to Wing in a Inn to &wend Ike law regulating the atiusis.i..o THE NATIONAL REGISTER of atlorneys-:--to provide for the admission of poisons who have taken degrees at Universities in England and Ireland to be entitled to be admitted after three instead of five years.—Leave given. BILLS or Exeirmsac—Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW then moved for leave to bring in a bill to regulate acceptances, &c. of bills of exchange. The existing law was imperfect. as questions had arisen whether the detentiou of a hill was nut equivaleut to all acceptance, and such like fauci ful opinions. Mr. SCARLETT was prepared to support the bill, for where there were doubts it was desirable to remove them. Motion agreed to ORDNANCE OFFICERi k &c.—Mr. HUME then tow for the purpose of briuging forward his maim] respecting the propriety of disqualifying certain persons holding offices nuder the ordnance from voting for members of parlia ment. lie did not desire to deprive persons of their rights, lie only wished to impose that condition which the Ruckiugham Act warranted—if you accept such and such places you shall not exercise time elective franchise.— (Hear.) He concluded with moving fur leave to bring In a bill to disfranchise persons holding certain offices in the ordnance department. lu the coarse of his statement the 1100. member mentioned, in support of his charge, that persons who had lung been engaged in the ordnance department were removed to make way for Queetiburo'; that an individual aged 7V, had been superannuated, and be was succeeded by • freeman, aged 74 and such a change took lilac', notwithstanding tuere was a circular from the ordnance office, setting forth that no person, above the age of 40, should be deemed qualified to take a situation in this department. Mr. BERNAL seconded the motion. Mr. WARD strongly opposed the motion. Ile denied that a case had bees made out to warrant it. In his own udice there was little political feeling; but there arts one clerk who was a staunch radical reformer.— althous,h his peculiar opinions were sometimes mentioned, he (Mr. W.) took no further notice than to enquire whether the individual was a good clerk ; and dm being answered in the affirmative, be kit the individnul to the employment °ibis opinions. Col. Davis and Mr. P. Moore supported the motion. Mr. 'TIERNEY thought the proposition of his hon. friend went too far, as it would enact the ordnance every where. if the bill was brought in, he should prepose as an atuendnielit to confine it to Queetibbrough only. The house then divided, when the numbers were—For Mr. Hume's motion 60—Against it lift— Majority The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the report of the Bank Cult Payments Bill he brous,ht up. Mr. PURSE raid it was proposed to issue sovereigns in their stead; but with respect to what had fallen from the hoe. gent. it was iuteoded to keep a supply of one pound notes in readiness, so that either with these or with sove reigns, the exigencies of the country circulation toted be at ull times satisfied. Mr. J. SMITH considered this explanation highly im portant, and was sure that it would at once quiet tne alarm which had been felt. The report was then received, and the third reading of the bill fixed fur Friday. The timber dutitsbill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday next. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjourned. FRIDAY, APRIL 19. The Jurors' Amendment Bill (enabling the Judge to direct the attendance of two sets of Jurymen) was read a second time.—Ordered ti, be committed on Monday. Avutr Ovetce.—Mr. LUSHINGTON brought in the Exchequer and Audit Accounts Regulations Bill, which was read u first time. Mr. BERNAL asked what were the peculiaritiei of this Bill 1 Mr. LUSIIINGTON replied that it was to perfect, and to carry into more complete effect. the existing system. Bill ordered to be read a second lime on Monday next. Mr. LIISHINGION moved that the home at its rising do adjourn to Monday. Agreed ro. Lord DUNCANNON moved, that the report of the County Courts Bill be taken into further consideration on Thursday, May 10'—Ordered. The Spoiled Stamps' Bill went through a committee; ordered to be taken into consideration on Wednesday next. Assessan Taxgs.—Sir M. W. RIDLEY expressed a wish that the Assessed 'Taxes Consolidation Bill should be brought in before the holidays, Mr. LUSH IN OMB said, it would be introduced in a day or two, Dr. LUSH INGTON brought in a bill to facilitate the eiathieatioe of witnesses abroad. Rend a first time, and ordered to be read a second time NI h May . . Base CASH PaYstenTs.---The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the third reading of tha B an k Cash Payments Bill. Mr. ELLICE observed, that Horn was no (name com p, 11mg th e Bank to give small linte3 . 44 cash for large owes; he wiaheu a clause to be introduced to su, h elle( t. The CHANC ELLOR of the EXCHIiI2UEIt cunuidrierl this cl,,u.e umicerasrery ; lie imagined the law ut the case vuld cumin{ the flank tugive unuller Mare or Ceib. Mr. ELLICE said, it lie withdrew the clause, it must be oil time milerstaudiug that he considered the law to he as Ltd burl' ICI/I...ented. Mr. P. OREN FELL thought there was no compulsion on the Hank tu eseliiiiige large times tar small ones. Mr. SCARLETT expressed a like opinioii, Ile knew of ott mating law that Cumpelled toe bank to give osallei mites for large ones. Mr. LITTLETON said, without time suggested clime 0%11101 We. eeetl...tt y as WI C S ritt 1.1% of the case Wise COII- cerned , murh fail onvenience, lie leafed, would rebutt • Mr. Aldcinnin 1 - 1 L Y (lAA thought the Chancellor of the Exch. quer was inistakeu in a hat lie considered to be the law of the sutoect, Mr. BAN ks was also layout - 41,1r tu tho clause, It might Produce mach IHCOMVCIIIente amid alaniii it the bunk were not lop l ieed to issue butes or pope& fur hinge feared that much expence would resin' Slum coining :mil recctittllig gold i we therefore thought that 6411111111114 in the form of a guild tUkell might be nth ...eeble• Be aislsod thy gold to be like the silver, w token-. Mr. U. HEN l`iia said, lie would rather see the country wilier very great inconveniences time avoid it by vistaiu ragieg the contiusiaticu of fl, mgr., fur be con... Wiled those notes to be a homily on enutu. 'lime bystriti which lie hoped was about to be got rid if hail gcso.rated CIIIIIV. lu WI there wefts 11111/C 111iee1111.11111. in the II yea's afterwards iheie wine vuft ext•ctlino.., dud for tlia subse alat period tie impaction, we, I . Th. ce facts vOl/W4 how the Opiate leg 4 131 tail ut untied the Gigots.— He feared the country wadi, be long before such crime was got rid O. The bases from forgeries were enormous. and they chiefly fell upon small tradesmen. Accoeding to returns, about 21,000 forged notes hail beeu anansally presented at the bank. 'fur loss mainly fell lie repeated, on the uusll tradesmen; and how immense a snot they must have yearly lost !—Surely then it was most desirable .to get rid of what tempted to the commission of such ea= tendert crime. The severity of the punishment had done nothing; fur since 181* the crime had InCreased three fold iu the country, and seven fold in the capital 8o flinch bail been accomplished by severity of punishment! Ile hoped the history of what bad passed would deter the house and the country from being again driven to se dreadful a system by any momentary pressure. (Cheers.) That system had made spendthrifts of the goveremeet it had destroyed the property of the country. The blush alone bad been gainers by it; they had divided 25,600,0001. lie grudged Orin those profits—feeling how much crime and suffering the system had occasioned. Mr. CHIN'S expressed the opinion, that the commerce of the country could not be carried on without notes.— Coin alone would not be sufficient for the business of the nation. As to the proposed clause, if there were any doubt on the 'object, he hoped the lion. member would not be prevented from proposing the clause. Mr. PEARSE adverting to the promised new soli he said one system had been abandoned. The reaeldiary was complex, bat it was found that the notes were sus ceptible of considerable imitation. Hut though that aye tem bad been abandoned—he did not despair of nefes being produced that it would be extremely difficult to intitaie.—(Hear.) Mr. MONCK attributed ell the evils that had resulted from the euspeusion of cash payments to the batik, and the bank alone. It was unfortunate for the bank as well as the .conutry—but to the 'souk he attributed all the blame. Mr. T. WILSON said, that the conduct which bed been pursued regarding the bank was the madam, of wise men. Were the bank to have cootiented payments till they were drained within a fete Tire faith of the country. was to be kept, and it was prudent to take such measures as to enable that faith to be kept. He thought most erroneous views of the tranaamious had been taken. Mr. RICARDO followed, contending that the beak ought to have continued paying in cash as loug as possible. After some further discussion, On bill was read a third time and pasted. THE AILEY ESTIMATES...4IIe hustle them west iete a committee ofsupply, and Lord PALMERSTON proceeded to move the resale/rig items. After some discussion strangers were ordered to withdraw, upon uo arneorhoeut proposed by Mr. Hume to reduce sin item for the Commander-in-Chief of 14,4141. 15, sd. to 10 1 ,4741. lbs. sd. Oa this proposition the riumbeis were— for the amendment 23—against it 94—majority 61. Mr. HUME then proposed to reduce the sum to 12,4741. 15s. sd.—for thiaameadment the oumben were-21—room' it 90—majority 69. Mr. HUME then proposed to reduce the vote to 13,4141. Iss. sd. The Committee again divided—for the ruueoduseet 40—against it 125 slajority against the ameodmeet 15. The original motion, fur the sum, of 14,4141.155. sd. was they agreed to. On being again admitted to the gallery, wefound Cul. DA VIS objecting to the vote of 6901. to the Judge udvocate of ticruluud. The hum. member couteeded, that that this was a toeless office, and ought to be abolished. Mr. BEN N EFT declared himself of the same opinion. Lord Palmerston, Mr. Wet. Dundee. and others, sup. ported the motion. The gallery was then cleared for a division —For the grim I 1 l—Against it 72—Molority fur the grant 39. The different items which billowed were severally discussed and a umber of divisions took place. The house having resumed, the report was ordered to be received Oil Monday next. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house amijourned. FROM TUESDAY NIGHTS GAZETTE. •••••••11•111 BANKRUPTCIES SUPERSEDED. W. Shepherd. Brunswick Street, Hackney Road. baker. T. and T. Yield, Muscovy Court,Trinity Srpiart,iour factors. BANKRUPTS. G. B. Gregory, Lisson Grove. merchant. Solicitor. Mr. Stevenson, New uart. Lincoln's Inn. J. Echrools, Vine Street. Spitalfields. silkrnan. Sol. Mr. Newbon. St. Andrew's Hill, Doctors' Commons. T. Jones, Sedgelcy. Staffunlshire, irontaaster• Sok Messrs. Alexander and Co. New Inn. W. Grundon, New Mahon, York, merchant. Sols. Messrs. Morton and Co. Grey's Inn Square. W. Ellis, Liverpool, white cooper. Sols. Messrs. Blockage& and Cu. Tem ple. G. and R. Dunderdale, Leeds, clothiers. Sol. Mr. Bigg, Southampton Buildings, Chancery Lane. T. Brown, Longdon, Staffard.hire, bracer. Sol. Mr. Wheeler, • Castle Street, Holborn, J. 8. Wade. Aldeburgh, Suffolk, brick maker. Sol. Met Alexander, Carey Street. J. Garton, Morton, Kingston upon Hull. lightcrman. Sol. Mr. Shaw. Ety Place, Holborn. J. Trelterno, St. Martin'. Street, Leicester Fields, victualler. Sols. Messrs. Sweet and Co. Ba.ingban Street. T. Cushan, Paternoater Row, Spitaltields, hat .Nles.z.. Swam and Co. Old Jewry. DIVIDENDS. April :S. G. and S. Roran-un, Paternwtet Row, hoshaemsys...- M 4 y 6. S. Scarf, LeeiL, guff inanutactuzer-l4 J. Fayell. Thayer Sheet, Moreletione. habordailier-h. B. Glaascott, Cheap.itie, jeweller-9, W. Slade. LeVOA. corn merchant-t 2. H. Sabine, Fenclitirch Sum', dnigx.st-s. W. Crew, Palos.* Row, Tottenhiun Coon Howl, !lemon, Shedickl. grocer-.b, J, Barker, Strand, wier.-12, G. Burrow. New City Chambers, insurance broker-21, S. Wood, Bolton. Lancashire, banker. J• Richardson, Liviopool, inersiwint-ta, S. Kaki), jun. and J. Rothwell, Haliwtll, Lancashire, calico printos-...3. Jackman and J. Graharn, Carlisle, cotton spinners-a. S. Millard, Gloucester, line.... draper-1, R. Swan, Gainsborough, Linvoltultire, merchar.s-...1, J. Lethbridge, Carmarthen Strout, Tottenham Court lOod, timber merchant-I. C. Seaman and Q. Eth,eti'lls . .s. Norwich, goldsmiths -3. W. boy& P. Bentield, and J. 1401111110nd, 1,0114 CM, merchants—t. S. Lorin, Strand, bOulittlier-S, Nowill, Cho4l,ide, Willo4lot. CERTIFICATES w tie gramod May I. J. Smith, Portsmouth, ship vbersilet—T. Htualphry. Klnf►re, Stankinishire, ircamiaster—J. Northam. St. Thomas Mt Apostle, l-levonshirc, tronfountiot—J. E. End con. Exam., builder--R. Prwt. Tovka.bury, tout flaw.