The National Register. — London, England, 1811-01-27 00:00:00

J 0 dp. T : - . 7 _ _ __. • , '""" , 7 - • • . . . avoid:soroplaining that he, and other Gentlemen who had pro osedimpartial amendments, bad . been hardly dealt with. It r had been said, that entering into those details, which lie thought nt tessary.to give the I - louse on a former night, betrayed a hard mess of heart ill suited to those feelings of loyalty which the• me lancholy situation e l f the King . must naturally excite in every breast. ;..G.ood God, L .why was this Bill brought in then, if no difference of opinion was to be allowed ? Why not apply to political conduct the principles by which men judged of actions in private life? could it supocied in private life without sufficient emends-that a man starting on fair priutiples at first, would abandon them in the middle Af his career ? In private life, the greatest loss ; in case of : ckith, fell always on the party most interested, and who was of course, most embarrassed with de tails. Was this to be made a cause of reproach ? Would any one brand as hard hearted the son who, after the. first pa roxysms of grief, occasioned . by-the foss of an affectionate father, should .be- found Inspecting his.stewar.d's accounts, and entering into-all the details of his affairs ?—(Heir, hear !)--yet he had been blamed flr -enteriitg mom defailton. the Household manage ment ; he hod .been acznised of . Isuldebetrteclness by men who generalized the question, because:they wcre linable to enter into details: it'was. however owing tottiath•ird-lwartedness that the House had now entered into that discussion by which the Lords of the "Bedchamber Were inureveahly fixed . about the King's person ; it was because that they had the tnikindnes to think' that- the King- was a kind-master . , that•lie was to have his old servants sound him—it was because they smothered their feel ings; bo that subject that they. had been able to • consult his own. —(7loa' hear./ In other good could be.ptoduced by the del:...tt, he would still think himself amply repaid flat the pains lie had taken, and:completely . .absolved 'from all imputations th:owtligainst . • • • 'l';,e . •tt A leent.t.un•-of the ExcesEQUf.R shortly explained. . .1 h.- j- I •-toi r. then divided—Ay es2l2.—Noes l9O—Majotity in . •. • dttl i c:.r:a.a.►rii rose -to proposc an Amenclinent• to the eater reg sae c::, •wished to - distinguish he twee:: the - 1 .. :ie*.!1 - i; who: furnished pirsonal attendance on His liii..stx,4ttal:tlinee who Aside inte.iided lihn in the execution of eties of S;:at.;:.• . With - respect to those who were necessary the sptendour of the Throne, he thought that the Regent Should have the power oi removal.- There was a difference he• t weal ther.power to rnniuve, and the exercise. of it. He propo. sed, therefore, that the .I'rince . should have -the . controul over the Lord t.lamberl.lin, Groom.. of the Stole, lkil4:.ter -of tlip tlarse, Mas;er of the ettemonics, Captilifts of •the , Yeomen, Matter of tuc',(.houncis,.&,e• With powet to remove them from Vieir (*ice. t•nd that her olaJesty. should have theptronage and ciir e ci.w: of the ll,oy ) kHoas . ehold, aid 'Nye to uprelni a Vice- Ch iu.be: Lin, Vi,c.c.,4,tevaril, and Vice 7 Master, with 'the same pow.e; as those possokldliz the Cha , mbialain •• I.;11 • itineodment was: . • - • • Mr, Caniabiz dual e .4186 pr.'.p. used' Amend:ll4*s; 'which were. io 'l4o44nanner. negatived. " •• - The Bill, withwirth the Aiiiendmehts was 'then ordered to he brought tip, and to besised.askiacik-sislis-suanorrc.)vf . then en grns,ect-, 7 • • . • . The House adjourfad at one &dock. faet 1 ursi kt , 211. The Sr , nker terlt the Chittr 'at Van- oi.eletelr, hut there not be ing a !..1...1,11.cint putlticr uf Mer Ethers pretic.xt, the iiouse ad journea. . , rti4 xs 9 A Yrk-1.4 Mr. DAVIES Gt DOT ver-auteti Po . ition from .I.l4cibert Trkr, t:pou the subject: ot remuneration for the mall ce l isch.invea . .. ! lion. which wuti rtierred to.lL.Corornitteei. • ' •• . , • • 'Mr. Sit E R A,N. pi+Sented a PetiriOn front the town of I.ewel, in Su,srx, against. the Bill for restricting-the Regeut. Peti tion %vat read, and ordertei.iolie nit thelable. • • • • "ItkGt9CY 8111.. The CuitteellAbit. tbe.-ll.XCirLeuek moyedgie 3.1 rcaclipg of the Regency - • " • •• •• Sir T•nbvtAs Ttiatitts objiGted to mreral claubes in the Bill, but particularly to that revettitig. the Household: He thought it leis duty to surgtat;t4 the House the necessity of making a correctioli by leaving t,;:t the word 61 portion", In that particular clause. ' could before have stated his opinion!, bu*that the preamble , )f : tbe been.reati over so triucitly. .- :‘.1 1% - yttwt.tettre +ucl'a'fetv observations to make previous to the M read irz cif the 13.11, which .uppeared to hitn not to 'have been suggested upon-any former eicolon.' It was 'not knoWn by that rlhn,e;•salleitet4ltit - tit; eltrt, publib, what Was 'the elttent of the pir - ohagir with witicit wcre about to investlitz He 1..1 to dechtre,' from the best authority, that the patronage of the iiuusel - mtldigitOlyett l'j l'eevs in the office oZ his . .ilaiesty 6.r'l In thit . ofher ; also ihvc:lving salariez tO.the.sinvlaut of f - j " . 1 of upwards of SO,OOO/. 'there were Also 70,0001. ctuniected with .' the Household in the uncontrculed gift of her Majesty, and the persons to whom the salaries were appropriated were completely placed under her Majesty's direction. Fhose places were many of them of great value, some of them amounting to 18001 . 1500 4 and none of them to less than 1501. per annum. This patronage was indispensably necessary to the Executive Government, and it was without doubt highly improper to withdtaw it, and place it in the hands of those who might her , after be in opposition id the influence of that Government. There were other additional pecuniary considerations which raised the patronage to an amazing extent ; besides, by such a conduct the splendour of the Crown was taken from it and placed round a sick bed. He would have the Regent exercise the same power over the House- hold which he would'maintain over the army end navy. Mr. LAMB expressed much indignation at the circumstance • of the House usurping a power which could not without the . bone fide consent of the Crown be possibly attained. Mi. SHERIDAN, after some remarks upon the Secret Com, mittee upon the Privy Purse, said, that he would, if he bad been in the House at the time such a Committee was proposed, have opposed it with all his strength. It was one of the most indelicate and indecent acts of which the House could possibly be guilty. He as well as any other man would allow that , nothing should he done to obstruct the recovery of his Majesty —this was an argument strongly urged by the-other side of the House upon the former discussions upon the Bill—but it was probable that his Majesty would be afflicted by the removal of his domestics from his person—what would his feelings beat hearing in case of his recovery, that his own private acts, that his acts of charity and of benevolence had been enquired into by the House of Commons. He would repeat, that it• was ex tremely indelicate in the House to institute such'an examination. There existed a necessity for appointing a Regent, there might have exited many other necessities, but whatever necessities there were, Whether for a Parliamentary burglary upon the Ea- • chequer, or for any thing else, there surely was none for examin ing the state of the Privy Purse - through the means of a Cont. mittee of that House. It would have been much more consistent with propriety and decorum if that particular occupation had been left to any' of the Royal. Family; who; hi they knew - that the contents of that purge. Were appropriated to charitable and other meritorious purposes, could' net but feel indignant that it ' should he overhauled by the House of Commons. He ended • withregreiting that he was appointed a Member of the ',Serra Committee, and With observing that the little poetic lines of his , .which had been (in so flattering • . st manner to himself) quoted the other night, were completely inapplicable to the subjtct which had given the to theirintroduction upon that occasion. The CHANCELiOR• of the EXCHEQUER replied—He stated hiS ressons for having appointed a S:eerel: Committee upon the privy 'litirae. ' It was necessary to make this enquiry in .order that provision - should be made for certain payments which. wcrc . important, and the suspension of them would be attended wit a great deal of inconvenience ; the • expellees amounted to. 32,900/. douhie the granted sum- to the privy 'purse, in CODA... cnience of his Majesty's extraordinary bounty ; atuelseethought . it better - , aS a means of avoiding jeolottsv, to appoiHt the :..:'Oriss mittee than to make itraltplicatiott for 'her Majesq' v amomittiser: :hi - 42411)0/:*thoitt producing distinct reasons tor swell applies's tido. With respect to r the charge' Of indelicacy, for the purpose . of preventing the possibility of any thitf-r a that natuts, he had ,aPppointed the itight Hon. Gentteman L (Mr - Sielitlan) and M; - : ' • I'.onsonby to the Committee. It could not then' be.presumed tliat''. iti ' ythhiiisigrvsliiabjret.stoyf,sthpelin.ai.csuersted;,e,liCwathiYcshv,ontltdi.obeheerxevvrtiiisielci tinbc the investigation. All the • Members chi f4is Ccnrimittee would • declare it, and ifitis Majesty had . been }goat tit he ic'nskl not hags thsacte the slightest Objection to their conduct. • He acquiesced in the suggestionsuggestionof the s Hati. Bart. to leave out the word _i' enr. tion" in the' clause respecting the Hcioselsokl. • Mr. WlT.Bl.lintler stated, that' thy: grunting the whole of the Household to hi:r-Itilalesty would t.e.-a violation attic. prin ciples of the COnstinition. . He wished • that it had been found practicable. to give more power fo the Regent than that wiiio had been allotted to him. With respect to the charge . of indeli cacy in appointing the 'Secret Committee upon the' privy purse, Ff he thought that the Right 'oli. • Gentleirran who had made that charge seethed to have attacked some of his own friende: He concluded wall' declaring; that the measure s and the rtioie . of it,.reflected the utmost honour upon the Right Hon s; eiities man (the CHANCELLOR of the E7CHEQUER) wh o 144 tßete4 with a firru, manly, and • zealous propriety during the alike proceedings ; who had deserved, from. his ardour, hi.; integtity, and hilimmovable adherence to what was wise anti,iil44llrePi bie, the affections and the confidence of the cce. s nta . y.• *.t - ~-...-:-. • The 11111 wad then read a third time, and tl.je. Chaniletkg•of the Fichequec brought up a Cause, declaring st., " unl.*tel,tor any officers ander his Majcsty,'to make a.zsy.apAirtMent;eWV during anstachrisntm the clause rezpeeting the household, suggested '~y 1 Sir 'Thom hirloti ) was anoezcd to the Dia- _