The National Register. — London, England, 1822-05-05 00:00:00

142 HOUSE OF COMMONS-(S ArtwAv.) annuitants, subject to such regulations as are applicable in eon. ruse. S.—'that it is the opinion of this committee, that the amount of this charge has hem' encreaged, principally by the long duration and extended exertions of the Isle w;,r. Corn the sum of about 650,0001. to the laid sum of 5,t'03 COO. 4.—'fiat it is the opinion of this committee, that unikr this great nceunsulution ut annual charge, nod in the present state of the country, it is expedient to nia!le provision fur apportioning this bunion so as to ensure its lintel extinction, either by an equal ntinual annuity, tei mi m ble within 45 'ears, or by permanent annuities, with such provision for the repa)ment thereof as is required by the Act 82 Geo. 111. c. 55. b.—That it is the opinion of thin committee that the eom• vnisstioners of his htajcst,'s Treasury should treat and contract (subject to the approbation of Parliament) with such bodies politic and corporate, or other persons, as way he willing to undertake to provide for the charge of the aboveamentioncil ye, sions and allowances, or any pat theieof, in either of the :shove modes; and who shall give adequate security fur the perforamare of such undertaking. Colonel DI V lIES declared that the scheme was not comprenensible. Sir J. 1% Llti PORT also observed, that he could baldly say lie understood the resolutions, fur K. far as he compre• hended them, he could stint declare lie approved the plots.— lie did not see why the carrying of the plum into effect could nut he consigned to the commissioners for diminishing then dismal debt ; if liny adtwdige acre to be derived from the operation of the scheme, he thought the public toast en • titled to the benefit. After route obrern ration.' from reeeral meirsberr, Lord LON DON D entered into a defence of the plan proposed to he lidopted fur pn)ing the pensions and half-raj of the arm) and navy, and contended that it ails plea calculated to relieve the country to a certain extent at pr. sent, and lit the same time, that by sei•ing a sinking fund .oi 5,c00,0W1. at compound interest, we should preserve public faith, rind Ail; keep in view the good of our posterity. Mr. (MEN FELL considered this measure as not at all affecting the sinking fund. As to she other met its of the plait, he would wait till the bills on the subject were brought in before ke either gave support or censure to the plan. Lord ,E BRANGTON considered this measure was an attack on the sinking fund, but it would go. to relieve the people from a portion of taxation, and therefore be hoped it ssuuld be curried still further next suasion. Mr. MA B wished to see the slaking rand taken at once in teducti n of taxation instead of put tiag thiwew machine in motion at a very considerable expellee, Mr. WILLIAMS condetussed in tutu our fin , mze system, and especially the measure of paying utr the 5 per cents., by hichI,OOO,CODI. had been added to the public debt, nud the plan now p r oposed wid...d base the elleet of increasing 11610 furt hei Mier souse observalions from other members, the resolu• tions of the Chancellor of the Ereliequer were agreed to. The other oidtrs were then di.po.ed of, and the Haute adjourned. THURSDAY, MAY Q. Mr. MARRYAT presented a petition from certain merchants of L.ondon, against a bill now before the House for facilitating the intercourse between the West India Islands and N. America. —Ordered to lie on the table, after some remarks from Mr. Bright, Mr. Ricardo, &c. AGRICULTURAL RELIEF. Mr. Lf CKHART presented a petition from persons in Sufiblk; complaining of agricultural distress. COKE presented similar petitions from places in Norfolk. Mr. DENISON presented from Mr. Taylor , a petition, corn. plaining of the operation of Mr. Peel's bill, and of agricultural distress. The petitioner stated, that he had , in 1811, purchased farms to the amount of 160,0001.; he afterwards mortgaged them for 60,o001.; and he then offered to sell them for half the pun chase, without being able to obtain purchs.. ors. Mr. Sergeant (JNSLOW thought the individual had no right to complain. He knew the unnatural state of the currency, and the purchaser, therefore, should not have made an improvident bareain. Mr. WESTERN said, the individual was not tc blame—a fonner House had encouraged the fraud, for in 1811, the House of that petiod had toted that a pound DOW and a shilling were equal to a guinea. Mr. BROUGHAM said that House had done too e. After having passed such resolution, 13th May, Pill, within two rimiths n agreal to a bill, which made it an offence to give less than 20e. f or the one pound note, the market value of the bit of rag being at that time 13s. ad. He was not speaking of the present House : God turbid lie should place himself within the reach of its vengeance, by expressing his opinion of it. He was creaking of the wise labours of a framer t!otise, which were slow matter 01 history. He therefore declared that tlic House— be meant the House of 1811—had sanctioned a fraud, fur the r_solution of that period was nothing less. The petition was then re..d. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE presented a petition from some place in Sornersetshire, complaining of agricultutal distress. The petitioners did not attribute all their distress to the taxes, but they should view with great satisfaction the savings in the ex penditure, and the consequent remission of taxes to the amount 01 l,tiOnJaad. He hoped the Salt Tax would be first tax that would be repealed. He expressed himself in favour of the plan for introducing chartered country banks. Mr. P. GREN FELL spoke against the scheme of chartering banks, as it appeared from what took place in the Court of Bank Directors that day, that the sacrifice was to be the extension of the Bank Charter for ten years. To that extension lie would object under any circumstances. After the expelience had by the country, he would resist with all his power the continuance of the Bank monoply ;" he thanked the noble Marquis for teaching that word. He would never vote fur the continuance of that tyranny which had been exercised over the country as well as towards the government. Mr. J. SMITH said that the country banks were not to be chartered banks. Mr. HCSAISSON spoke against the practice of discussing questions on every petition ; it was productive of inconvenience, and put off the public business. Mr. CRE E wets of a very different opinion. It was the duty of members to discuss grievances on the presentation of petitions complaining of wrongs ; and he hoped the practice, the extremely useful practice, would be contevued. It might be convenient to the ministers to get rid of important questions after one grand debate; but they were there to protect and pro mote the interests of the country. Mr. HUME said, the Chancellor of the Exchequer had dealt untaiily by the House, in agreeing to extend the bank charter without consulting the House ; and that he had also done wrong in anticipating the termination of the bank charter eleven years. fie CII A NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER appealed to the House whether he ought to be charged with unfairness How could he submit the measure to the House before he knew or not whether the terms to be proposed would be accepted by the lank? THE NATIONAL REGISTER With respect to the country basks, the main object was to pro mote the country's security ; for they could not hide from them selves how many failures had taken place in England. while Scotland had three failures in a long series of years, and in those instances the creditors had been eventually paid. He added, that in a few days. the (louse would be put in possession of the terms agreed upon by the bank and the government. Nothing would be decided) upon—the. House should have the amplest opportunity of expressing their 4:Acumination, as well as their opinions. Mr. MANNING defended the conduct of the Bank. It did not merit the strong epithets that had been used. Mr. ELLICE said he. thought it would be quite time enough to talk about the .extension or renewal of the Charter, when there were three or four, instead of eleven years of Cie charter yet unexpired. Petition ordered to lie on the table, after some remarks from Sir W. Ridley, &c. MINISTERIAL. PENSION 1111.1.. Mr. CRY VEY gave notice, that on the Ytst i ot. he should move tier the repeal of the act granting lansitins to Ministers, and other officers of State, after a stated period of service I or as it ought inure properly to be term d, the Ministerial Pension Bill. • JOINT POSTMASTER. Lord NOR MAN BY Nought ftwward his motion for an ad dress to his Majesty to abolish the office of Postmaster General. llis Lordship said, that the support given to his previous mo tion on this subject had encouraged him to bring forward his present proposition. As proof of the utility of the office, Lord Clancarty had been enabled to be absent two or three years; and he much questioned whether the noble Marquis, on sending his Lordship. knew that the noble Lord held such an office. Gertain it was that the office was little better than a sinecure. and, in the present situation of the country, it was their duty to abolish nll useless offices. He should conclude by moving that an humble address be presented to his Majesty, representing that his Majesty's faithful Commons, relying on the gracious dispo sition of his Majesty (as exprassed his answers to former ad tlrtses tag' that house), to concur in all such measures as the ex igencies of the times may require, and in such reductions in the civil departments of the State, as may be consistent with the due performanceof the public service. humbly pray that his Majesty will be graciously pleased to give directions that the office of one of tile I ostnaastera General be abolished, and the salary of the office be thereby saved to the public." The CH ANCZLI.OIt of the EXCHEQUER thought no sufficient case was made out fur the present motion. The House had alrcady expressed its opinion on the question, and surely it was better that the puttlic should have noblemen of charaeter to fill such an office, roan to entrust the duties to any Board. Mr. BANK decidedly supported the motion. Mr. BRIGHT spoke strongly in its favour. Lord LAINnoN DERRY opposed the motion. It was not, his kudship contended, called for in any point of view, either as P. matter or saving, or as tending to gain a more advantageous performance of the office for the pubiic. Mr. S. WORTLEY supported the motion, maintaining that the country wanted relief, and that it could only be obtained by reducing the establishments, which would produce a diminution of the taxes. _ _ _ Nir F. BLAKE supported the motion. Reductions were loudly called fur, and much wanted ; and for those that had already taken place, he gave the member for Montrose (Mr. Hume) great credit. He had done snore than all the ministers put together. (Cheers.) Mr. MARTIN, of Galway, opposed the motion, and called on the member for Yorkshire to rally his spirits and declare his opinion ; and if any one should attack hurt for opposing this motion, to call on him, and he would become his second. Mr. 11fACDONALD supported the motion. He contended that this place was wholly unnecessary to support influence, whilst ministers had that undue influence which an expenditure of 65,900,0001. annually gave theta, and whilst that revenue cost 4,1(x),000l. in the collection. 'Mr . . MONEY opForttl the motion—the place of Postmaster was not a sinecure. In the het year 2.0(10 Reports, embracing public interests, had been submitted to the Postmasters, and they had minuted their opinion on each of them. He also contended that a great responsibility aitaehed to the office, and the abolition would toss the country, lie was convinced, much Inure than 2,3001. a year. Lord A. HAMILTON sepported the motion. Mr. MANSFIELD opposed the motion. The house then divided—For the mutton, 216—Against it, 201—Majotity for the notion, 13. The other orders were elispeseil of, and the house adjourned. IrRID•V. MA'I S. . . Petitions, complaining of Agricultural distress were pre. vented from Sussex wad she Isle of Ely. Rend and ordered to be printed. Mr BLACKBURN presented a petition from the Charn ber of Loramerce, Manchester, against the East India no- Deputy. 11 occasioned an extended conversation, io which Mr. Marry/di ; Sir I. Coffin, at' c. took part.—Yet atom ordered ' to be rutted. fdr. GLAD STONE presented a petition from the ship owners of Greenock, complaining of grievances to which they were exposed, particularly the charges for light-homes, under the sanction of the Trinity Ilouse.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. HO BIIOU SE presented a petition from Julius Adol phus Schroder, complaining of nut he sing been aliened to hie his bill in the Court of Chancery, because it was nut tiled by Counsel—Ordered to be printed. The llouse at its titling was ordered to adjourn to Mott. day next. - Mr. 1108110 USE moved, that carious returns respecting the Insolvent Debtors' Court, its Fees, &c. be printed.—The lion. member sued, if Ih•s subject were examitbed, he thought there would be found room for improserucuts.—Motion agreed Mr. DAWSON poEponed his motion on the subject of the Alien Rill to the 21. t inst.—that motion was fora renewal of that act. Lord A. HAMILTON presented a petition from the Burghs' Aceount , , and other Mills, brought in by the Lord Advocate. His Lordslop complained of the Lord Advocate's constant postpuorment of those osenwrem ; but he 110% wished to know when those bills might teal') be expected to come on for dhcubsion. The LORD ADVOCATE said, be hnd been constant in his attendance during the sessioa; he had bet II absent but one night ; and a• to the Bills he should move uu slouduy that they beennatnitted. Mr. KENNEDY obttrved, flint he had held Scotch tie• titions to reseal : that he had %ailed set e:al evenings for the presence of the learned Lord before he could prrseut such petiti o ns. - - Li . nd A. IiAMILI'ON replied. Mr. J. P. GRANT said, that the complaint against the GO•Cfiltneill Wll,, thilt halting sullsered important questions to remain at rest for tell yeors, thew saw uthcrs making ar rangements fur their [Holier discussion, and then thr!y pro posed to bring, in the rEqui • itchi'l,; those bill:, were brought 10E% artl, but now the, were rtm.iiintly postpuncd. The peliiioll was then prertittEd; it W 45 how Perth, against the Loid Advocate's Bills. Laid AND LION theuprebe nt.ll some similar peti thus*, %Nth caned lurch funh s . tunresbutiou lioui 21r. hunt, Luid liiuuiu;, du. Lord LONDONDERRY postponed till Monday his rep, lotion respecting agriculture, lOU account of the pressure of other matters. Poeratorron-GsnLRAL..--Lord LONDONDERRY presented the King's ensurer to the address of Thursday in which his Majesty acquiesced with the wish of the house, and said he had only delayed the abolition of the office in consequence of there being a committee on pub lic offices now sitting. The report on the Naval and Military Pensions was presented. All were agreed to except the last. Mr. HUME mowed an amendment to that resolution, directing, that the Conimissioners for the Sinking Feud should contract for paying those pensions. Mr. Cripps and Mr T. Wilson opposed such amend ment. Mr. Whitmore and Mr. Brougham supported it. The latter said, now that the Chancellor of the Exchequer began to make arrangements for the reduction of taxes— for it WKS admitted that the present scheme would enable the reduction to the extent of f,000,41001.—it was to be hoped that more reductions might be expected. This was a good beginning kr the man who, a few weeks ago, said that taxes could not be reduced one farthini.—( Bear.) After sonic observations from Mr. Ricardo, Mt. Jones, Mr. 1). Brown, and milers, Mr. BENNET urged that ministers ought at once to take the Sinking rund for the selief of the country , the public creditor was entitled to his interest, but nothing inure. The country was entitled to all the relief the house could give them. The house then divided on Mr. Home's amendment— For the amendment, 56—Against it, 136.—The resoltitioa was then agreed to. Ille Warrant of Attorney's bill, after some conversation, went through a committee. The report was received, and ordered to be taken into further consideration this day se'nnight. The Warehousing bill and the West India Trade bill were postponed. The report of the Scotch Malt bill was brought up and agreed to, and the bill ordered to be read a third time on Monday. Sir 3. NEWPORT moved for the appointment of a committee to inquire into and regulate gland jury pre sentments in Ireland.—Agreed to. Mr. IGRENFELL moved Icr copies of correspondence between the Government and the Bank of England, rela tive to the renewal of the Bank Charter.—Agreed to. The house then adjourned to Monday. FROM TOEsnAY NIGHT'S GAZETTE. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. W. Scott, junior, Norwich, contl-mioner. BANKRUPTS. W. Watkins, Norton juxta Kempsey, Worcestershire, corn dealer. Solicitors, Messrs. Collett and Co. Chancery Lane. J. Prothcro, Hedwellty. Monmouthshire, shopkeeper. Sol. Mr. Gregory, Clement's Inn. W. Heath, Cheadle, Staffunlshire, grocer. Sol. Mr. Harbor, Fetter Lane. F. Sumam, Crowle, Worcestershire, maltster. Sols. Messrs. Williams and Co. Lincoln's Inn. . . T. Crust). Norwich, lir.en draper. Sols. Messrs. Tilbury and Co. Falcon Street, Aldersgate Street. J. Noakes, Hereford, upholsterer. Sol. Mr. Wright, Hart Street, Bloomsbury Square. .1. Ami►s, Hereford, victualler. Sols. Messrs. Hillard and Co. Gray's Inn Square. I. Green, Birmingham, ironmonger. Sols. Messrs. Swain and Co. Old Jewry. R. B. Roxby, Arbour Square. Commercial Road, merchant. Sol. Mr. Atcheson, Great Winchester Street. . _ G. Davis, East Sionehouse, Devonshire, ship builder. Soli. Messrs. Raine and Co. Temple. H. Wilson, Ilatton Garden. auctioneer. Sots. Messrs. Ap. pleby and I o. Gray's Inn. T. and E. Bentley, Leicester, brace Chilton, Chancery Lane. J. llomley. Newcastle upon Tyne, linen draper. Suls. Messrs. Constable and Co. Syniond's Inn. Sul. Nfr . FASHIONS' FOR M.ll'. MORNING DRESS.—A round dress. composed of bati s te: the bottom of the skirt is embroidered in a running pattern of perigees in yellow silk, surmounted by a wreath of the same flower disposed in a wave. High body to fasten behind, and with a little fulness at the bottom of the back : the bust is plain, and is cut moderately high on the shoulder ; the waist the usual length. Long sleeve, very tight, and finished by a pointed cuff; the points turn upwards, and arc edged with yellow satin. Full epaulette, cut in lashes, which arc filled with satin, to correspond with the tritunting. A very full ruff, composed of listing's lace. completely envelopes the throat. The head dress is a demi coreette, made of blond moral, and trimmed with yellow gauze ribbon. Black kid shoes, and gloves to correspond with the trimming of the dress. Fvi,L lhtESS.—Round dres➢, composed of folk, over a white satin slip : the bottom of the skirt is finished by a garnitt:re of tulle intermixed with pearls; this is surmounted by a trimming composed of tulle, chenille, and pearls, disposed in alternate wreaths of corn Hower ant roses: this trimming has a striking and elegant effect. The cot sage is cut low, and in such a manner as to give considerable width to the chest: it is tight to the shape. Three falls at tourterelk points go entirely round the bust. Sleeve composed or toile over white satin; it is short and full, and ornamented with white satin to correspond. The front hair is dressed in light full ringlets. which till very low at the sides of the face. The hind hair is arranged in bows somewhat higher tf-. , n it has lately been worn. Head dress, a very full plume of white ostrich feathers. and a pearl sprig. Necklace and ear rings, pearl. White kid gloves, and white gvus de Nut** shoes. —.eleketwiuten's Repotstory. THE Pt:.—On Saturday last was held a trial of the l'ix of all the gold and silver monies coined at his Majesty's Mint, from the 13th June, 1818, to the 31st December, 1821, in the presence of the Lords of his Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Coun cil, at Westminster-hall ; when, upon the strictest scrutiny by an able Jury of Goldsmiths, the coins were found to be fully agreeable to the standards of his Majesty's Exchequer. The amount of gold coined from the 13th June, 1818, to the 31st December, 1821, is 10,473,2491. Is. Bd. The amount of silver coined from the 21st May, 1818, to the 31st Dec., 1821, is 2,719,9261 Several houses have recently been bought by order of his Majesty, and treaties arc pending foi the purchase of others, with a view to enlars; thc. boundaries of the l'a , wilion at lhightuu.