The National Register. — London, England, 1821-06-24 00:00:00

194 3mprrial Varliattttnt. lIOU OF LORDS. MONDAY, JUNE 18. The Poor Houses bill, the hide Stamp Duly bill, and others, were brought tip limn the Commons, and reed the first time. The Irish Election Expellees bill, and the M.A . .treindis Gas-light bill, were the hrongitt up from the I:amnions, Willi the amendments agreed to. '1 he Charitable Lands Exchange bill, and the Justices of the Peace Regulation bill, were read the second time. The Earl of COVENTRY presented a petition from Tewkesbury, prating for revision of the criminal laws.— Petition laid on the table.—Adjourned. "ULSDAT, JUNE 'l9. Counsel were heard in the Strathmore Peerage cause, and further proceedings postponed to Tuesday. The London 14 harls Bill was read the second time. SLAVE 'flt.C;,t.— The Marquis of LANSUOWN post poned his motion respeciitig tlie foreign slave trade to Monday next. Earl DARNLEY, in consequence of the absence of a noble earl (Liverpool), postponed his motion on the state of the navy until Tuesday next. STartots Elia IN fact (NlL—Earl DARNLEY then rose pursuant to to call the attention of the house the huproper conduct of pet SODS connected with the sta tionery its Ireland. He considered the subject of lucre than ordinary importance. He rigretted that he was obliged to use personal observations, !nit it was his duty to bring what be considered a very strong case before the house. luis object was to induce their lordships to con sider how tar it was their duty to put an end to unneces• sary enormous expence, occasioned by a monopoly inju rious to i!:e public. The noble earl then entered into a statement ortitc right of the patentee, Alderman King. He did not impute ti. that individual any fiend, but there must have been cu lp a bl e ) ,,:gligence. He haul DO doubt M ayor o f Dublin give his Majesty in Ire land a watt NUJ Irish reception. The indidual might be the leader of a party, but the pi:,,:e hail ( 111,01 4 sue' fermi by the monopoly lie held, and pa. haimmt ought to eumaider whether it would poi be expedient do it away. The noble earl roiteluded by moving a resolutio.l' , stating that the individual vs to claimed the right by pats."fit to supply the ollices in Ireland tt ilk stationery, had receiv:"t l in the last ten y eats the sum of 22!';,6001. of the public , money, ninkieg au average of 35,1591. and a fraction per annum. Charges of fraud having been made against per cons in the stationery department, the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland directed inquiry, and the result was, that the patentee was declared unfit to supply the stationer 7.— Notwithstanding that deception the government offices were still supplied by the same patentee. It also ap . - peered by a letter from Mr. James Rae, hest clerk in the stationery office, that paper of interior quality had been supplied, the price paid for the best quality. After the resolution had been lead, Viacoaut SIDMOUTH said, it was true that a man of the name of Fox, employed by Alderman Bradley King, the patentee, had committed frauds, which timid not have gone on, it' the officers of excise had done their dusty. The Lord Mayor of Dublin had prayed to have his coil - duet investigated by the legal tribulials. The Lord Lieutenant had also thought it incumbent ott him to cause inquiry into the subject, which bad led to legal investi gation; therefore the noble lord could :tot attach any blame to the Irish government. With respect to the fraud there was no proof at all. ']'here might be abuses, but the public did not sutler. Restitution was made, and the noble earl had no right to assume a fraud hail been com mitted until it was proved. The noble viscount did out wish to detain the house. He did not think there was any impeachment of the integrity of Mr. Bradley King. The second charge, relating to the prices of paper, was under legal investigation, and if it should tutu out against Mr. Bradley King, lie would cease to be the patentee.— The noble viacomit concluded by moving the internals questam. The Marquis of L%NSDOWN felt some satisfaction from the last assurance of the noble viscount, but lie could not admit that the public had not suitrered. The public had suffered to au indefinite degree. l'ite by being obliged to take stationery from the alderman, at his own price, had lost considerable sum:. Ile had a paper in hit 11411 d, which proved, that paper supplied by the ordinaty stationers, at 11. per ream, had been supplied by the alderman at 71. Mi. Bradley King had uu right to smell acquitted tor serving the politic with paper of a quality be should not have supplied. It was not a prin ciple of justice to excuse him on the ground of negligence on the part of the excise officers. When they asked why titer the o ffi cers had beets dismissed (tom their places, they weir told tau—breause it was the fault of Mr. King. The public by such et:reeve were 1114dt . the victims of lung priataeled and extensive inalversation. It' the law was eitfoiced strictly titian humble and übseme offenders against the excise laws, it was bin justice to enforce them also against the distinguished and opulent found guilty of peealation. lie supported the mutton ut his noble friend, and was happy to bear inquiry was guing on respecting the charge oh' a systematic plan to supply the public with an inferior article at the highest price. Lord SID' lOU explanation, said lie did not jus tify city act Mr. Bradmy King might have committed by the negligence of the tact.e tithe. is, but lie said, Mr. King t usint nut have gout on bad the officers of excise dune their duty. 'lute Ertl oh LIMERICK was not piepared to say the alderman had been guilty of atoll, and as the subject was Mamie' I. gal investigation, he should support the previous The Eail of ROSSLYN supported the motion. Upon the sliewing ut the amble s iscoinit, the parties Iran all combined to the In. judice oh the Earl of 11.AltitOW BY said a few words In support of tile previ..se. Earl DARNLEY then consented, as the subject was ;bidet legal lill11111), to withdraw his I a hope at the same time that government would take every WI 41. s within their reacti to do awry the mum/telly. isiolloU was *With awn. Viscount StDMOUTII then adverted to the papers on the aubject which ban beet. laud on the table, sod intl. mitten that their was struts; !talon to !relieve the existence ut a cuospiracy to ruin Mr K Mg.—Adjourned: WEDNESDAY, JUNE 20. After the appeal busmois anointed for the day, the Thames ballast 6111, and several private ut.L here brought up from die Luminous rani e-ad t h e first nine. Thcirialt pr;.+ons bill, the stile of poor houses bill, and Irish stamp duties Mil, were severally commuted, and reported without anicndiuent4 to the house.—Adj armed. v• Vl\ g 2 i. On the motion of Viscount SID tIOUTH, the Irish insolvent debtors hill was read the third time and passed. Cni storm. LAIVS.TIIC Marquis of LANSDOWNE rose on the second reading of the bill w ameud the law applicable to denting in dwelling houses. The crime of privately stealing in the dwelling house was punished, as the law SLOW, with death. That penalty ran counter to public opinion ; it was considered too severe,nuil in several instances persons had neglected to pro. secute because they knew conviction must lead to capital punish ment. The noble marquis concluded his argument in support of the bill by moving the second reading. The LORD CI I ANC ELLOR expressed an opinion adverse to the bill. Ills lordship knew how dangerous it was to alter the criminal laws. In MOO cases of stealing in the dwelling house, no person could say the puni.liment ought not to be death. The Earl of CA RNAIt VO N supported the bill. Viscount , SlD MOUTH said it would be unwise to decrease the rigotous character of the law. The effect of capital punishment recent case of street robbery had lessened that offence SO much, that the judges at the old bailey sessions had tried Yeti' few prosecutions of that description. He did nut th" 7. pass the hills upon die table. He ctr.l.7.,;:acti them most injurious to the ' interests of the coninitmity. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE replied. The house then divided—For the liV.:Orict reading 17—Against it 2T—Majority In " . ...te 'Diu was accordingly lost. ornehrll applicable to canals bald navigable rivers shared the same fate.,, Adjourned. FRIDAY, JULIE 112. The Earl of Wilton, second son of Earl Grosvenor, claimant of that earldom in right of his grandfatin nn:- /‘ riga, was introduced by lain father Earl Gs osv v nor, and the EIII of Bridgewater. His Lordship took the oaths and his seat. A person from the commissioners of The Military Canal presented an account of the tolls mid rates t eteived tip to 1820.—The report WWI laid an the table. The vagrant laws bill went tiirough a committee, and was reported. The bills on the table were fore. ard , ll a stage, and the hou,e adjourned till to-min row, whcu the royal assent will be given to sevtral public and private bills. HOUSE OF COMMONS. zeOrIDAY, JUNI: IS. A petition from Yarmouth was presented against the Extra l'ost bill Mr. GOOCH presented a report from the Agricultural etezninittee which was tottered to lie on the table, and to d be pi i ed. Tua.t:co Dv:ln.—Oa (be motion that the Tobacco Duties' bill be read a second 'Ames Lord BELGEIAVE prinestea s against the bill. Mr. LUSHINGTON desired ;bat the bill should be read a second time to-day, that the house might see what it really was ; and he should then pro Vona that it be cuin mitted en Friday. Sir F. BURDETT moved, as an smehdment, that the bill be read a second time this day six n.tontba He was against any extension of the odious power of the Elam. Mr. W.SMITH spoke to the same effect;' however, he was not particularly against a duty on tointecil ; but would it be believed, that what was worth and what "II sd• was taxed to the amosiut of 4s. %—( Hear.) Mr. HOBHOUSE spoke of the vexatious ch. tranter of the bill. He knew one person who bad sold million pounds of tobacco in pennyworths. He should support the amendment of his %surlily colleague.. Sir IL WILSON naked whether the right lion. genii til' 443 iippoNite, in the event of the bill being allowed to go hit° a committee, would then permit the bill to stand over .'lit next session.? _ Ike gallery was cleared for a division, as Sir F. Burdett would not a ithdraw his amendment unless Mr. Lushingtou would pledge himself to withdraw the bill for the present session. The numbers were—Ayes, is—Noes, TS—Ma jority in favour of the bill, 32. Mr. LOCKHART presented a petition from a merchant of London, regarding the employment of British aud FO. reign Shipping. LONDON 8R1DGE....-71r. H. SUMNER asked, in the event Many measures being adopted fur the building of a new bridge, where London-bridge now existed, if due mince would be giver, ? Mr. Alderman WOOD said, he hoped all proper notices would be given. The bridge might he reimilt, he was persuaded, without any new impost being imposed on the public. AGRICULTURAL Hottsli TAX.—Mr. CUItWEN moved, that the house go into a committee on the Agricultural Horse Tax Repeal bill. He was glad to learn that the imuisters did nut iuteud to continue their opposition to the bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that although he telt bound to obey tile decision mat had been come to by the house, he still retained his former o; • i •• Mu. Mr. BIRCH asked whether any new tax was to be On puled, instead ul the tax now to be repealed. Lord LONDONDERRY said it would be fallacious to hold out to the country that this repeal would atford any effectual relief. It would, however, be proof of the sym pathy of the house with the situation of the country, that the house did feel with the country ; but as to any !hillier burdens, he was prepared to say that the repeal would be unaccompanied by the imposition of any fresh burden. Mr. HAIONCi expressed a hope that those who bad really been relieved would nut limeafter conic forward alto say that it was of no advantage. The defeat that the Chaucellur of the Excheipier bad sustained resulted from his nourishing description of the finances, talking about 4,0000101. of sinking fund that no where existed. The tate bud awaited I that sometimes betel those who talked notch of their wealth—they were sometimes at tacked by thieves in the night.—(Loud laughter.) Mr. S WORTLEY said, had lie been In the house he should have supported the motion for the repeal. Lout MILTON trusted it would nut hereafter be said that the lauded interest was nut suftieiently represented in that house ; but lie trusted that it would be deemed right to show the manufacturing interests that their wel fare was not ueglected. He hoped that many months would nut elapse before something would be doue to protect Muse manufacturing interests, as well as all the interests of the country, which could only be done by ecoutnny.— (Cheers.) Mr. GOOCH thought the noble lord was wavering, as used, between the agricultural and the manufacturing interests; he hardly knew how to bestow his sweets. After some further conversation, it was agreed to post pone the further stave uf the bill till Wednesday next. Visas us LLARLAUL.....OII use IDQUIVII that DIC report on the subject of an increase to the Date of Clarence's income of 6,1)001 a year, and of paying up arrears amounting to 18,0001,, be brought l ip, Mr. CUUWE expressed himself against the grant altogether, and proposed that it be brought up this day three months. The house divided on the original motion for bringing up the report. The numbers were—Ayes, l•ti—Noes, IK —Majority, 1'26. The report was then brought up and read. On the resolution that there be an addition of 6,00JL a year to the income of the Duke of Clarence, Mr. HUM E spoke against it, and concluded with pro posing, that the snot be reduced to 3,5001. Mr. MOORE supported the propriety of such reduc tion, observing, that all the royal family were already provided most elegantly and liberally. After some remarks from Mr. Caleraft, Mr. Creevey, &c. the honse divided on Mr. Iltime's amendment—Fur tbe 50—For the origins! mottos', 167. On the question for granting the 18,0001. arrears, !►fir. BERNAL objeeted to that grant as not coining regularly biAre the house. In the present state of the country, he could not consent to give the arrears, although he did not oppose the intoned allowance to the royal Duke. Lord LONDONDERRY said, the objections of the Icon. member originated in the company of late. The 18,0001. now proposed to be paid to his royal highness could not be considesed as arrears, hut as a vote founded on a grant foe inerly made by parliament. llis royal highness, notwithstanding all his economy, Mond it im possible to live within the bounds of his income as it stood at present. lie had wished and endeavoured to do so ; but finding it impossible, it was tint equitable that the house should step in and save his royal highness from ha fering inconvenience by his 'endeavours to save the public purse. Mr. Curw•en and Mr. R. Williams also objected to the vote. After some further discussion, the house divided on Mr. Bernal's amendment to omit the arrears—Fur the amend ment, til—For granting the arrears, 13I—Majority in favour of the motion, 50. The house then proceeded to resolve itself into a com mittee of supply, and to discuss the Irish estimates. Mr. C. GRANT moved that the sum of 10,0001. be granted for the suppot t of the society for promoting edu cation among the pour in Mr. BECliElt expressed his wish that the money now called tor ought to he devoted for the education of the poor. without distinction of sect. Mr. C. GRANT cautioned the house not to attach to persons who were acting gratuitously, conditions which it was quite impossible that they should ever accept. Sir J. NEWPORT expressed himself strongly in fa ♦our of extending the aid of ili legislature to the gra tuitous exertions of such individuals as were anxious to diffuse the blessings of education among the pourer classes of Ireland. He likewise remarked, that wherever any attempt had been made to interfere in the matters of re ligion, it had invariably counteracted the attempt to promote the cause of education in Ireland. Mr. HUME observed, that though there were many societies in Ireland whose object was to give education to the poorer orders of the Protestant population, there was none instituted for the education of the lower orders of the C•tthotics. This society was therefore established with a view, not of promoting education amongst the members of every sect. The plincipirs, however, on which it had been originally established, had not been strictly observed; fir it determined not to give assistance to any school in which the Bible without text or comment was not read. Now that determination amounted to a virtual exclusion of the Catholics from the benefit to be derived from the funds of this institution. After a few remarks from Mr. Grattan, Col. Barry, and Mr. : Becher, the question was then put, mid the resolution carr. c'l• Mr. C. GRANT proposed a vote of 7,0001. for the Dub lin 80 0. sty, VI hicls was agreed to. Th e n , resolution was 9,2301. fur building churches and g l e b e ;souses. sir J. NEt VPORT maintained that the first fruits' fund, if properly udi.'tini.•tered and collected, was sufficient for the purpose oft his resolution. In the ensuing session, lie aga i n gave not ice that he would move for a committee on the subject. It might to amount to 20,0001. a year, in stead of remaining us it was as far back as the reign o► Elizabeth. . . . . Mr. HUME expre eyed his intention to divide the com mittee on this grant, •'a he thought it wholly unnece.sary after the last vote. After a few words from Mr. S. Rice, Col. Barry, and Mr. C. (*rant, the commitiee divided—Fur the resolution, 48—Against it, I 1-I , olajoriti ST . The next resolution was 11,0001. for enlarging and widening the streets of Dublin•' The resolution was agreed to. A resolution of 2,5001. for the farming society of Ire land was passed without remark. Mr. C. GRANT having moved 784. for certain public officers in Ireland for making out returiis to pal liament, Mr. 1119 ME objected to the principlt's of the grant, alleging that these " certain public officers" were already paid considerable salaries. Mr. C. GRANT mentioned the amount of the emolu ments of set eraL Sir J. NEWPORT resisted the vote on the ground that the time of these officers was the tune of the public. and that they ought to make out these returns in England without any additional remuneration. Tue Chancellor of the Exchequer supported the grant, and Mr. 144iikes opposed it. Mr. HUME moved that the Chairman report progress. Mr. HUSKISSON recommended that the vote should be withdrawu, as lie thought it objectionable in principle. Mr. Grant consented to withdraw it, cud Mr. Hume did nut persist in Its motion that the chairman report progress. The next resolution was 14,0001. for the Irish Board of Wu' ks. Mr. iIUME required some explanation regarding the office of inspector of civil buildings. Mr. C. GRANT said that his duties regarded buildings iu and near Dublin. The resolution was then carried. The sum of 1ti,7001. for printing and stationery for the secretary's office was agreed to. Mr. F. PALMER said It well quite impossible at that late hour to proct•ed fm tiler with these estimates. It was Hear oise o'cluck, and the proper attention could out pas *iirly be paid to them at such an hour. THE NATIONAL REGISTER