The National Register. — London, England, 1822-03-24 00:00:00

thought none could maintain that it was adequate relief ; be contended that it was quite disproportsintate, as com pared with the distress that existed. He also urged that the distresses were not confined to the agriculturists; the trading and sholikeeping interests also most seriously felt the distresses of the tittles. Tile farmers undoubtedly were ill a serious situation ; the cattle brought to market brought ruinously low prices. lie proposed that there should be a tax on foreign tallow ; about one-third of our eousitmotion consisted of foreign tallow. He knew that the immediate elTect might be to raise the prices—but the relief to the farmers would he great. The duty on tallow was 10 per cent., while that on hemp was 35 per cent., an article that did not enter into competition with articles of our own growth. Russia produced 40,000 tons of tallow, anti out of that quantity .`:5,000 tons were imported into this country. But Russia only was not concerned—if peace were to be restored in South America, great quail titiea would be imported; and whew there was such a dilference in the expences of raising the articles, surely the English farmer merited protection. In asking for the committee, he proposed that there should be an advance of IS per cent. He calculate d that 5 per cent. woul l o go to the farmer, and that the duty would produce 100,0001. lie proposed to take off the duty on tallow call dies, its collection bn expensive, about one-seventh of the 360,0001. produ ei ce g . so This change would be a great relief to the community, and, as would have been seen, without injury to the revenue. The farmer, lie calculated, would gain 300,0001. by the rise of tallow. Here, then, was an opportunity for the governmeni to benefit the gris lier without injuring the consumer; and as to ally effect on our relations, without Russia, he did not think that we had to look for any favour from that country. But even Russia could be pacified by a commutation of the duty on hemp, which bore so heavily on our shipping interest. On these several grounds he moved for a committee of the whole house to consider the propriety of augmenting the duties on foreign tallow, and taking oil the duty on can- tiles. Col. D %VIES seconded the motion. Mr. SVKES agreed with what had fallen from the lion. mover, particularly in the propriety of repealing the tax on tallow candles. lie approved of that because it would take off a serious burden on the mass of the people. But as to increasing the ditty on foreign tallow, when it was desirable that our iiilltietice should be maintained with Russia, between whom and Turkey war seemed to be trembling in the halancl., lie considered that this measure was most illitilliCiollA : and certainly he did not think that the increase of the titity on Russia tallow would promote our shipping interests. The tax on tallow candles, he re peated, was most unwise; it was a tax on labour, as much work was carried on by candle light —a lax that never bad the sanction of any tine politician. Mr. F. ROlll N SON opposed the motion, maintaining that the proposed ditty would undoubtedly mil/Slice the mice of tallow, and that the suggested changes would be any thing hot a relief to the county. Mr. RICARDO said, each gentleman seemed to have his favourite scheme of attacking the taxes. Some com plained of the malt tax, BORIC attic salt tax, others of the tallow tor his part, lie thought the taxes on law pro civilities die most injurious. After further remarks, the motion was negatived with. oat a division. Mr. RENNET postponed his motion for the repeal of the leather tax to a distant day. IRISH FIVE PER CENTS. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought forward a series of resolutions, similar to those agreed to respecting the Euglish Five per Cents.—Adopted.—Re port to-morrow. Sir J. OSRORN postponed the remaining Navy Esti mates, after some observations on the impropriety of Winging them forward now. ARMY ESTIM AIMS, The house having resolved into a committee of supply, Lord PALMERSTON proceeded to move the remain ing Army Estimates. lie first proposed that a grain of 43,0001. be made for the expenditure of the War Office cstablisliments.—The noble lord contended that all pos•i ble reductiotis had taken place, particularly in this de partment. Mr. HUME denied that there had been any real reductions, such as would be beneficial to the country ; there would, in fact, be little or no saving to the public, for what had been taken off in some instances had been added in other quarters. The above and several items were agreed to. the motion for granting 4,5t01. as salary to the Judge Advocate, NI r. HUME moved, as an amendment, that the sum be 3, 7 0411., tieing a reduction of 1,0101. The SOLICTIOiI•GENERAL supported the original resohitioli ; and after souse conveisation the committee divido.l.--Tor the original IMAM', 124 —Against it, le-- Majority, 106. The until reselotions wet e disposed of, the Louse re. sunitd, and the revolt ordered to he received to-inorrow- The remaining ceders were read, and the house ad journed at hall past twelve. I . III,IISDAY. MAtt(tt 21. M. Quarinc, the Yeoman tisher of the Black Rod, summoned the house to attend the ;louse of Peers, to hear the royal assent given by commission to sundry bills.—(See Lords.) Sir W. LEMON presented a petition from several Unitarians, complaining of certain forms of the Marriage Ceremony to which they were exposed, and which their religious opinions made grievances ; and they prayed that the law on Me subject might he revised.—Ordereat to he 'stinted. Mfr. CALVERT inovol for Returns of the Summonses Issued from the Southwark Court of Requests, distinguishing those above and those tinder sos.—Ordered. Mr. CALVERT have notice that on the 27th inst. ho should move fur lease to bnng in u bill to regulate the Assibe of Bread in the City of London, and within the hills of mortality. hie W, CU RTis postponed till the lsth of April the London Bridge Water Works Bill. SLAVE. TRADE. Mr, HOLMES presented the Report of the last f.lession of Congress, America, relative to the right of search, as coisnected with the abolition of the Slave Trittle.—Ordered to be printed. lord W, BE NTI NCE presented a petition Irons certain oc cupiers of land in Nottinghamshire, complaining of agricultural ilistress.—Orderott to lie on the table, Mr. ELLIS moved, that the Dublin Fever Hospital Bill he read a second time.—ltead a second time, and ordered to be rotilluittod to-morrow, HUSH hl I; rElt CENTS, Mr. IttIOCIDEN presumed the Itepote of the 010111Ilta , on the Irish F Five per Cents. Resolutions road, on ;notion the t Chancellor of the Exchequer. They wore similar to those mottling the English Five per CClllb. Agreed to, and the hill ordered istaandisii:ly. - - THE NATIONAL REGISTER Mr. BROGDEN presented the Report of the Committee of Supply, containing the resolution for granting 4,700,0001. to pay off the Five per Cent. Dissentients, &c. Read and agreed CUSTOMS BF.NEVOLENT FUND. Cul. DAVIS brought forward his mutton on this subject.— The fund arose from deductions from Clerks' salaries. certain entries. &c. ; its object was to benefit es: lines, anal portion Mr orphants. Ile moved for accounts of the reeeipta fur this fund by the Secretary to the Customs, by poun.lage on officers' salaries, &c. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER should not give any opposition to the fund ; the receipts were applied to benevolent purposes ; and the whole would bear investigation. Motion agreed to. The CII ANCEELOR of the ExciluQuEn moved that the Report of the Committee of Supply of the Ist of March be presented. Mr. 'MOGI/EN presented it. It was for grants on account of the naval service. Read. On the resolution for a grant for the Dock Yards, Mr. HUME complained of the enormoui expellee of those dock yank. and of the disproportionate increase of the Civil departments in the navy. They were enormously eriereased since 1792 ; they amounted for the last year to 202;reso/.; and in the seventh year of peace, the expence was within attol. of what it was in war, when lie had is thonsand pendants flying. In some of the dock yards there were trilling reductions ; but lie must protest against the . present expenditure. As he under stood that very great reductions were about to take place on a revision of those establishments, he should content himself' with thus expressing his disapprobation ; he trusted that hereafter there would be no occasion for its repetition. (deat.). Resolution agreed to. On the resolution respecting the pay for foreign yards, Mr. HUAI E asked whether there was any intention to reduce tile salaries of the Commissioners in fureign yards ? Sir IL MARTIN answered in time negative-4w p a y was considered small enough. Sir E COFFIN spoke of the advantage that resulted to our service from having these Commissioners. Resolution agreed to. Mr. lIUME spoke of the expence of the Instructors, Go vernor, bec. of the Royal Academy. Ile hoped hereafter to behold some reduction in them. On the resolution respecting the victualling of the Navy: Mr. HUNII said, the £BO,OOO expenditure on account of the coast blockade was moged in the Navy estimates. As it was for Revenue purposes, the expenses ought to be kept sepa rate. He wished that the charges f or the marines s mulct be kept distinct from those for the navy ; and he also complained of the placing at the head of the marines naval officers. Ile also lamented that the marines should be sea much neglected. There was want of encoumgemeut and promotion in the corps ; the officers rarely gained advancement. He regretted that he lied nut the opportunity of taking the sense of the House on the Sinecures in the Marine Department. Sir G. COCKBURN defended the system of establishment, particularly at Portsmouth. as well as the corps of Marines. As to what were called sinecures," they were no such things; and he was sure superior Commissions in the marines were far inure valuable than pensions. lie for instance prided himself on his Major Generalship of Marines far inure than if he had the highest pension. Resolutions agreed to, as were the remaining resolutions. Mr. HUAIE moved for a continuation of the return of the convicts sent out of the Kingdom. Ordered. The other business being disposed of, the House adjourned. FKIDEY, MARCIE V. Ale MASON presented the annual accounts respecting the offieere in the List India company': pay, tee, Mr. RING moved the second reading of the Somers-town Improvement Bill. Read a serried time, and ordered to be committed. Mr, REDFORD presented from the Exchequer nit rte. coma of the Ist ogress made in the redemption of the public debt. The Clerk handed to the Speaker an account of all peti tions presented within the last two years, cumplaining of agricultural distress. Ordered to Le on the table. The House went into It committee on the motion of Mr. F. Leads, on the Turnpike Lases Amt.'s/mein Bill. Report presented. rind ordered to lie re- cortunitted. Lord J. RUSSELL presented a petition complaining of agricultural distress, and of the inerstficiencv of the pleas of relit f hitherto suggested by the mitrieters. listless some more efficient means of relief were devised, the petitioners said that they should be unable to maintain their families. The petition was from Norman Cross, Garni.ridgeshire. Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. HUNT.—NIr. LAMBTON presented n petition from Newcastle-under-line. signed by 400) persons in the course of three days, praying for the adoption of measures to pro mote the litseratiou of Mr. Hunt. Ile considered the treat ment of Mr. IL most unjustifiable; the sentence was severe, and certainly it reflected no great credit on the magistrates that there should have been such treututent of u pristsuer fur a political ugliness Sir. NI. W. RIDLEY said, that the peihion was not the result of any public meeting; and he was not favourable to pet °Mee pr irately got up. Mr. DICKENSON complained of harsh insinuations against persons a ho acre not befure the Douse. The petition having been read, it speaking of the .e noto rious and cmae/ corrispliiiii tutu had crept into the honourable II °use," and of 1, evil councillors has inc ails i:rl the Kase, to thank persons fur the muidsr of his own etiajects." NI r. FR EE NI A NTLE objected to the petition oil account of the %anew just minted. Mr. I.ti SII I NGTON objected to it on account of another sentiment, which the petition cisme - wed, setting forth Drat Mr. I lunes great offence was," his endeavours to make your honourable I fori-e more honourable:' Sir R. WILSON defended the language of the petition. Ile deemed it justly to apply to a portion of that Home If it stele rejected, it a mild his adding rioliesle to t h e other faults with which they were charged. It was really being very fastidious, after %hat had passed, to complain of the language of the petit hut ; fer laid nor - •oer of the Crow n lately defended useless places, as letill;%ile to maintain the brflurnce of the Loan its that II ou-e ? Aml had not various glares been recent', given, to secure the sinister supine t of a ruble Lord ill usirstaer Mr..] A NIES said, that r. late Speaker had spoken of the corritistien or the House being as nutorruus ae the sun lit mein day. ( I leer.) Mr, W INN observed, that the late Speaker hal nut so epolic ir of the House (Dear, hear !) and resisted the petitiuu because its objaet was In vilify the Mr. G. !SENN ET remind, d the llon-e that the dale Speaker stroke ..f traffic to brat. us %hal woul d bas e Ina" nor ancestors :turtle with iudignati iiii ; and Mr. 1'..11-41% , by Bald, That it was a traffic that aria as Iroise roils sis the Mail Li 1100.1 ill y. (Hear.) As to the pet it ion, it was for a red,, 60 Of grievances; except they were to mescaline that they a eta not to receive any but inuthitory petiri its, lie knew tut isua they eland reject this petition. .~ ~. .~ Mr. METHUEN said. it we- Hot agreeable to the earin hon members to hear that they were there by corrupt mews and nett d from eon rept motives. Mr. 11013110 USE was astonished nt this bon. member's squeamishness, for surely he %vas not hinted nt in the petition, Toere welt ucdoulnedly ni my hon. members in that Bongo whip were highly ititlependent, and who &MOJA limit seals iu the most honourarle manitto ; hot had they lint lately heard of seats being sold, of I s111:.1 SOIL sue ii Scab hasiog hero bought by the occupiers, sod that places were requisite to enable the Crown ill 0W61144111 its . 11111 since I—tint they had received petit toos cootaining stronger language—that of the t muds of the people, fur instanct.. They offered to prove that certain seats were tilled by particular Peers or certain members. lie hoped that further resistance would not be offered on account of the language, for if it were, the people might begin to Suspect that all 181:1i not exactly f1:4111. Mr. LAM B roN said, this petition only professed to he that of the" untlersisTed" persona. The complaint (Sir M. Ridley'.) was remarkable, for when the celebrated " Hole and Corner" PC1.1111111,1 Otte preseuted, it was said that the sense of the people could as well be collected by such, as by atiy other means. The squeamishness about seats was re markable, for lie had heard members state it.e very priers for 811161 seats had been obtained, without time persons being called to order. Lord Cochrane said he had given 50001. for a seat. Nobody thought of callitm those 'tenons to order, unit yet this petition 1811aC11/11111111111en of an warmly. —lle declared that he did nut think the object of the peti tioners in lie, to insult and vilify the House.—(tieur.) Ms. PEEL declared that he thought there could be no doubt of the petitmers' object being to vilify and insult the llttuse. To resist Use precedent now sought to be established, and to protect the sacred right of petition, he also must ob. j. et to the document being received. Mr. MONCK observed, that as the petitioners were roe soniug on w hat he might now call to historical facts," they adverted to charges that had been preferred, and that bad toot been related ; and he there fore hoped that the Huase would not reit et the petition on such ground.. The gallery was then cleared fur n division. The numbers were—For the petition, 22—Against it, 123—Mujority against it, 101. Mr. HE 11 L presented a similar petition, in the sentiments and prayer of which he concurred. The petition was from Paisley. It was read mad ordered to lie on the table. The House, at 118 rising, on the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, was agreed to be adjourned to Monday uext. Mr. To canons H00K...-. Mr. G. RENNET said, he had repeatedly asked for the commissariat accounts, reAarding 'Theodore Hook, but in vain; they had nut yet been pro duced; he therefore moved that those 'cecinas be presented forthwith.—Ordered. The 4011 ADVOCATE postponed the second reading of the Scotch Burghs Accounts Rill till Thursday next, utter Lord A. Hamilton had couiplained of mach postpone ment, Toe CHANCELLOR 14 the EXCHEQUER thought that r.s long as there were any of the estimates before the House, it would be right that the committees of supply should have precedence. ( I tear.) Lord Nuor.siT moved for returns respecting the go vernor 81111 sub•governor of the Catibee and Leeward Islands, &e.—Ordered. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the House go into a committee of supply. Mr. HUNIE thought that the receivers'-general bill was first to be brought on. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied. that if it could not be brought forward early, it would be postponed. The house then went into the committee. Sir J. OSBORN moved that the grant, postponed from a former evening, fur 13 LOoOl. on account of the im provements in our dock-yards, be agreed to. Mr. HUME was against this vote. He maintained that one farthing mote ought not to be granted till Ilia utility of carrying on such works was tint ascertained. parti cularly those at Sheerness. They had cost already, so expensive were those several works, 1,411,0001. ; and he should therefore propose that such fact be first ascertain ed. It they went on, doubtless the salience would he upwards of 2,000,0001. to the errantry ; were they pre pared to incur such increased expence? The amendment was negatived, and the original rest. lotion agreed to. Lord PALMERSTON then brought forward the re. mauling arinv estimates. On that which proposed a grant for the service of foreign garrisons. Mr. HUME moved, as an amendment, a reduction of 12,11001. Alter some remarks, the committee divided on his amendment. For it g I —against It cll. Lard PALMERS'ION next moved the grant for the lialf.pay. Sir IL TIARDINGE alluded to an extraordinary state mem repeatedly made by Mr. Hume, namely, that since the peace, there hail been 2, +(1.15) vacancies in the army ► that the commissions had been Sold or otherwise disposed of, so as to introduce that number of new officers to be providt tar: and that hod ;melt commissions bean filled iip by persons taken ti out Ilie half pay list, there is unlit have been an annual Rasing of swim hundred than: ~eta —of upwards of 2,000,00.11. calculating tho oo 'ssions as annuities. lie deemed such statement so et north. nary, that lie way induced to make sonic infinity into is ; Nod he found the statement contained grew. et tor. Thin bon. gentleman had calculated every* plunintion as neca- Slanting a Vite:lllCy, hot gettitig Ural teu,rly the nest in enii k was advanced to the situation made vacant by attothei promotion. Ini.teisil of there havialg been between lan and three thoosattil varancies, sucht as tiro hon. member meant, where lash otficers Lail been intrielor eel into the army, there had itt fact beep ottly about six bemired. IL. HUME. admitted that, hoot the difficulty of oh- NOUN: accurate ibhiu inaticto, he hail been led into soma erier of tomb% rs ; and lie itch it to tbe committee whether it might nut Its be a mallet of sorpfise, recultecting the masses of accounts that lie had to look th, wo o,. that hty iitatelltellt , might iiicelllll.4 he t. ritnition•? that lie dente , ' that they affected In.: 31glau. 1118 1181111'y 8181 justice of 811V8111111g hail-pay tali• tits to such vacaucies as 'night occur, tesulnlit 0 8".1, tilt intately agreed to ; as was a re.). lotion tor 100,0 111. Mr widow,' pensions. and 261114 1 . for the military collet:o.—On the resolution fur I? s,l UI. for the conitiassionati• li s t, Mu. HUME said, be untie' stood the allowances given upon this list were made subj. et of troy great ~brut.---- Thal prongs received allowances nods.% this list for ( Fur cuntinualivia see Iste,v