The National Register. — London, England, 1821-04-09 00:00:00

intosb, Lord-Castiereagh, and the Speaker, was put and negatived. Mr. CHOKER ohjeetel to the Protestant being called upon to sus-:u• tout tie Pope had on :mill wity in the king done. while that 1111thority was recoziri-oil iii tit oath pre. posed to be token by the Roman Gthnlir. With this feeling ' be observed that he should move the coatis-ion of 11• e words " Roman Catholic'," from the clan:' which regulated the oath, in order that the same oath should be administered to all clews of his M t jesty'r siihject , . Sir J. MACIN Mill said that Catholics ml2lll conscien tiously object to the words " or ought to have" (refetrin4 to the spiritual authority of the Pape) in the old mita ; but he thought that Protestants could nut feel the same scruple. Lord CASTLEREAGH opposed the amendment ; and after a few words from Mr. Croker iu explausitioo, it was put and negatived. Sir J. NEW lions observed, that by the bill Catholics were excluded (ruin eligibility to be..om • churchwardens; but in Ireland a great inconvenience might be found from it In many parishes. where it often happeued that the Protest ael elergyman sad his clerk were tte. may Protestant inha bitants. He would therefore move that the words," or be competent to become churchwardens be Steil. Mr. C. W. WYN N said that the right lion. gent. (Mr. Peel), in proposing the-exclusion of Catholics from being elected churchwardens, was—as far as respected England— an abrogution of the present law t fur by that they were already eligible Catholics emotairtly voted in parishes in England, its well for the repairs of churches us in the elec. lion of churchwardens. The amendment was then put and negatived. Neveral verbal amendments were suirscqueoily proposed and agreed to, after which TheSPEAK Llt put the geestion—'t that the bill do pass," Mr. HUTCHINSON observed that though he had felt it his duty to oppose several of the clauses considering them, as he did, penal clauses, and though he wuuid nut say yes or sin to (lie bill as it How stood Stith those clauses, yet if the bill pawed be would do esery thing in his power to recon cile his Roman Catholic fellow countrymen to it. The bill then passed, and was ordered to be carried to the Lords. The ether orders of the day were afterwards disposed of, and the house adjourned at four o'clock. TCEiDAT, APRIL 3. Petitions against the Malt Tax were presented from Hertfordshire, Northamptonshire, Essex, Woodbridge, Great Grimsby, and Litivoln. A petition was presented Irons Wiltshire, praying for the repeal of the Wool Tax. Mr. Alderman WOOD moved the second reading of the filackfriars Bridge bill. Mr. SIONINER opposed the bill. This was a fresh at tempt to make a demand on the Orphans' Fond. He could not consent to the Importation of a fresh tax on the subject to repair this bridge. Mr. Alderman Wood, Al r.T. Wilson, and Mr. Alderman Bryilges defended the bill. Sir J. GRAIL% NI opposed the bill, and moved, that it he read a second time this day three months, The gallery was cleared for a division. The numbers were—Ayes 19—Noes 19. 'Ulm Speaker gave the casting vote against the hill r it was of course lust. CATHOLIC DISCVSSIONS.—.Sir J. NE.W PORT hoped the house would imiiilge him with the opportunity, previous to his CHI rying the bill to the lord*, to return thanks Cur the great indulgence he had received during the recent discussions. He was most sensible of, and most grateful for, the kindness of the house; and lie added, that lie thought the house never had passed a measure more cal culated to produce the greatest a +vantage to the empire. Sir J. NEWVORI' then took the bill, wad prepared to leave die house fur the lords. The Speaker desired the house to attend their message. Sir J. N. was billowed by several members of the house; and Mr. Canning, who en tered afterwards, immediately left the house to follow and join the message, Lord ALTHORP presented petitions from Retford, Worksop, Doncaster, dec. against the Malt Tax. tie concurred in the prayers of the petitioners, and he hoped the house would give effect to their previous vote. The noble lord (Castlereagh) had very frankly told them, that the second reading of the Malt Tax Repeal bill should be resisted; that the government could not go on without the Malt Tax; but be hoped that members would not be Operated upon by any intimations that the loss attic tax would work any change in the administration. Such in timations had before been given, but they had not been attended- with airy terrible consequences. He trusted that members would do their duty, and consider the 314te tat the country alone. If the tax acre repealed, lie doubted not that ministers would tind the means of doing without it.—Ortleied to be printed, CAItLp,C ELECTIOII.--Mr. W. WYNN presented the report of the committee of privileges, appointed to examine the Carlisle petition, complajoing 01 the intro duction of the military during an election. The committee had agreed to several resolutions, stating the facts of the military being introduced ou requisition of Drs. Lowry, Herron, as c. l that there was so reason to attribute cor rupt motives to the niasgistrate; that there was no proof that eiVil force Would het have been efficient ; that there did nut appear to be :sufficient reason, limn actual serious, riots, to call in the military ; but that, considering ell the difficulties of the circumstances, the committee. roeld not recommend the adoption of any further men wires. The boo. member loosed, as a resolutiod of the house, that they would always view with the gieutest je4- horsy the introduction of the military, but that theie s.:1; no ground for adopting Nether steps in the vestal in stance. After some remarks from Lord Lowther, Sir J. Graham and Mr. CUM eti, the resolution was agreed to. The Comity Rates bill was read a sccural (line, and ordered to be committed on Monday, Mr. CANNING presented a petition, praying for the repeal of the protecting duties imposed by the Union, nom Liverpool, MALT Dc'tv lterEa WESTERN moved .the second reading of the new Malt Doty Kepi al bill— the duty of Is. Yd. imputed in 1010, ahich WA:. to all in tents and pnrposes a war tax. The right lion. gem. hash bald ant cite hope of peculiar relief to heuttand— but this lex pressed Alike an England, Ireland, and S,:iithatirl. 'flee CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sad , lie bad no eater-lieu to a fair ite,4iiiry of the optiatiou tat ' the tat use Seotland, 4,,4 4 A, ti AmILTQN had thought that dug lag pressed lectlitally hatal ou St Miami. Alter the lost year's discus- i Canis he had thought the cause ui Se4hll4tB4 teas WitXttOal 10441 lM ii 4 1 , 1 441 66 butptirit.4 the WI, .~ - THE NATIONAL REGISTER Mr. COKE hoped the gentlemen of Scotland world support the hill, and submit the question of inquiry het e after. If the laud-owners would unite. they would trash the minister what lie ought to do; if they enabled him to make an inroad amongst the country gentlemen, then would he do what lie pleased. lie was i4VOlllalile to the inquiry asked for by Scotland, and u mild support it ; but av to the 6111, he (Mr. C.) should sttaport it, tont It did not go far cutaigh to afford of i eh. f. The order was then read. and Me. Western moved that the bill be now read a second time. Mr. I'. GRENFEEL said, lie not oppose this bill with the view of supporting mintstets ; but, thinking that there was and on4lit to lie a real sinking fund, lie had voted for the new duties of 1819. He had dune so, that their finances might be put into a useful position. Lord evil:Li...RE AG I i defended the system of finance adopted in 1819, of which this tax formed a part. The object of ilist system was to support public credit, and to inspire confidence, nut only at home, but abroad also. A departure from that system now would be most inju rious; it would destroy our credit abroad and confidence at home. To repeal this tax would be to depart from that system, and fur what purpose ? to scatter about a million and a half over the country by way of relief, a measure which must fail of producing any beneficial effect. Mr. COKE denounced that excessive taxation which produced all the ills tinder which the country was la bouring. England was pi ecisely in that state to which Ur. Fllll had predicted her ; and her calamitous cumin ion-- hich lie (Mr. Coke) almost i egretted lie liad lived to sse— was owing entirely to the system introduced by :tile. Pitt. Welt wits 64 id of the necessity of keeping faith with the poetic creditor; and cell:lndy he should tie the last man to dispute that necessity ; out the house was so much Maimed at the bare mention of breach of faith : why, w hen had the house been Loosen to keep its faith? (Hear, hear.) lie (Mr. Coke) had no tutu in the house at all ; and the coutitry had ho e faith; and the noble lord opoosite (Lord Castlereagh) knew its The noble lord curried things us he thought fit; he governed the country single-handed (hear); —certainly single-handed; for tut, noble lord was one way, and the people were the other. (Ilear, hear.) The noble lord had told the house that the proposed teduetitm of the tax could give nu practical relief; but let honourable members look a little to facts. In 1816, barley being then ut eighteen shillings per quarter, het %h r. Coke) had moved for the repeal of the war malt tax. Tile tax was repealed ; barley immediately attained a remunirating prke, and ;nu complaints were heard from the agri• ulturista until the Chttn• cello' . of the Exchequer, among his shifts and his blunter, imposed the duty again. The non. ii ember sat dowu by declaring that he should support the hill before the house but that he could look only to an entire change of men and measures for any thing like substantial beuebt to the country. Mr WESTERN replied. The gallery was then cleared for a division.— For the second reading, l44—Against it 242—Majority against the bill, OS. The other orders being disposed of, the house adjourned WEDNESDAY, AIMIL 4. There being only s Members present at four o'clock, the house was declared to stand adjourned till to-uaorrow. 7010RtDA - V. APRIL 1. Pctitiouri were pre.eoted from the owner; rind occupiers of land in linggleba rule, lltdfurd liitr ; and the boirikr.rn purl nt Derundore, complaruing of agricultural ‘III4IVSS* ReleirCd to the COIDIIIIIIVer for J tIIACbINTOSH gave notice, that on Tuesday t.xt he bh0111(1 WOVe for leave to bring in a bill to amend the criminal laws. He should uut then bring forward any statements that were calculated to promote discussion 1 bet in the event of OhtiAllihlg leave to bnug ut Web hill, be proposed to have it printed, and take :he discuaion out the second reading on Thursday, May 3. Oa the uwtiun of Sir H. PAAN ELL, the Holyhead Roads' Hill was ordered to be re•commttted to.inorrow. Mr. BYNCi presented a pet , tion from iiih.thitants of fliOigate against the I I igligate and Hempstead Road.' Bill ; and praying to be heard by ruunsel against the said bill. Mr. CALVERT moved for au ureowit of the number of debtors committed to the Borough Compeer, as prisoners for debt, by tbe court of requests, fur amounts under 403. — Ordered. Mr, II USI ve not ice, that on Thursday licit he likUUld wove for leave to bring in a bill to di,ynnlify certain per tun, having office.. in time nrilmince ele par t ill, (rum holding ite4iii in the t onsinons' house. . The committee un the Stump Acts was postponed till to morrow* , - 7 I lie spo iled Stamps 1,1111 was ordered to be committed on Tuesday next Oxus; La ws.—Lord CRANBOV RN L: rove for the pur pose of onaving fur a committee to take into consideration the game laws, Ile said it way far from his intentiou to trench on the proper pm lieges of any class; but the present elute of thi. laws woe suell its to call tor revision and amend.. meat. Ile concluded with movira; for the committee. hie J. S WHIT did nut know what the particular objects of the mover were--hut In• thoo_lit au, t flange would be for the better, The prewar' g.t:tle laws were disgraceful to the ciinotry. Sir J. Sli F. 1.1,1( ottjeeted to the motion, and moved the pre% 111:11 coonatti. Sir J. YORKE would be glad if in nny new bill there tans introduced u clause to warrant persons to aII gnintl, thel it ntiaht Ins xlloll'll where it could be procured. Mr. BAN f:Eti übierved that lie had nut been await: till n ow of the ellicacy of the 'ltem law. He was tor game beim ? , preserved. It endeared gentlemen ttl . the upper C.ilb,rd 01 their et-qites; and it made them feel destree• of vwtiax their country beats; and it was what separated the upper Loin the lower elliwies. 11 govt to the gentlemeu of England iiiie ,, ,juyelept that via. not loosie.m ol by otey other ojetalentell in Europe. lie must Arpose the committee. 1:01. WOOO hoped that the bcu.e would allow throw to retrace their 'tells to go t o a culUiunlee — and tutu to tower. win the best course of calling useful law , " into Ole". He ..a: favourable to Lord Hacre's plan—to make game rival* property, and to leitaliar the vale of game; or the peke of the feolitiente might be raised. LOCK lIAR T denied dolt Inc objects n( the noble lord—its tar :Li he 011111.1 1111 - 111- - tAll/preirl I:caching, Of noll.nn:.:e the interea.ts of o rt..irlity. As 'to making game pt hell ptuilt rty, lit ve nut lloW eurlt jail. could be act maplndied He Ihomdit that it would he Vetter It; let the laws rentalio as tier Were, except a drliiiitc pi:roof probable improvement were auage.ted. Air, 1.; 11. of nthi favourable to the Plan or Milking Stiiile private proeert) Hu, tittet tilt., to wake gameO cheap that it wont.' nor be 1.0. In the al ill'. lit au of pws bell 40 tuokp tiWient thrl/444 uu toy Itlilluwalin t s filltaet iriAill 07 Mr. COKEjon. said, he was snCivourable to the propo silt on now talkie, but it :r-divirdon wire pressed lie should stilt fur the committee. He n ngaiast mak game private property tit would lie pi mturt ive of man gy ,nisrhir6, The present larva had some advarva,:es. They induced gentlemen to visit and reside im 01011 . relates. anti that lie comidered a bent fiend result. At to putting an end to paaching, he thought that it was i'npossible to accomplish such object. Lord LOWTHER remarked, that there appeared to be tu o objects in view—to legeLliSt• the hale of game, nod to prevent. poaching. If game sere legalised, he Thought that would be ()fleeing r.O additional premium ; he should therefore oppose i he committee. Mr. liA tt 110110 was favourable to the committee. The game laws acre highly objectionable. They were not con• genial to the constirritroo. They were mils., arbitrary, and oppressive; and they produced tire most immure' con sequences. As to the argument, that such Ina sarsid privi leges would induce gentlemen to reside on thefr estates, if they would not go there but far the sake of shooting phea sants, the country mi:Jltt us we!t be is ithout them. (A laugh.) Lord CRANROURNE replied, when the gallery was cleared fur the division.—The ninubers were—Ayes n- Noes rl6. AG NICELY/MAL HORSE Tag.....—Mr. CURWEN thee brought forward his motion on this subject. He said, if this relief could be obtained, it would be most advanta geous, and deemed as a eery great boon by use farmers. If this proposition were agreed to, he could not say that it could afford any very considerable relief to the agrienl. try al interests in general, but to the small farmers it would be u great and seasonable relief. The tax was an injitilicious one—it was laying the tax on the plough, end it fell upon the %ors'. 1.54(15; fur the best lands did not require such heavy cultivation. If the chancellor of the exchequer should tore a deaf ear to him, he hoped the noble lord would consider bow the tax operated; it levied in many instances 51.105. or aloud one-sixth of the rent. This lax had no good quality abont it; it was cruel, op. preasive and burdensome. It had no good quality; it bad not the principle which ought to characterize all taxes, that of follimt alike on all. (Hear, hear! ) It was also productive of many grievous complaints and many op pressive results. He mentioned ao instance where aMR was surcharged for baying accidentally followed a fox. cheep, which csme in contact with the man when travel. ling along the road with his horse and bags. He felt per suaded that the chancellor of the exchequer could easily find some substitute; at all events, be was persuaded that there was no hope of relief except the burdens of the country were placed on shoulders better able to bear them. He ridiculed the idea of poor lands been thrown out of cultivation : how many individnais would also be thrown out of employ. He added that a great change was taking place; the monarchs of Europe were been's/. ing the suppliers of grain. The king of Sweden had ex ported witch ; he had forwarded much to Holland for the purpose of supplying other portions of Europe. Hr con. eluded with moving for leave to bring in a bill to repeal the duly accordingly. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sad others opposed the motion; after which it was withdrawn. The further consideration of the cash payments rage. lation bill was deferred to Monday next. Ti aura Dun es.-- Mr. WALLACE brought forward the qnestrua regarding the timber duties. Having moved that the report of the committee on the timber ditties ant he taken into further consideration; lie proposed, that it be agreed to, cud that leave be given to bring is a hill accordingly. Sir H. PARNELL proposed an amendment, namely, that from arid after the Ist of January 1101 , , timber should be admitted, on paying a duty of 21. and deals, o• par ing a duly of 21. Os. from whatever quarter they might conic. Mr. BE NETT urged strongly in favour of an erica. lization of duties, and contended, that en advantage was by the proposition of the right hon. gentleman (Mr. W.) 5 improl• y given to Russia over Norway and Autiefica.- 11 e pr. .ed to reduce the present duties of three pounds one-half, namely, to one pound teu on all timber. Mr. DOUGLAS (veld not wholly agree iu the prop°• sitions of the committee as laid dawn by bis right bon. friend. fie considered the preference given N American deals as too great, but a future opportunity would occur to discuss that ludo,. With respect to the other countries —we. certainly haul a right to regulate the trade of oar own coionics, butt we were not justified in mat ag regu. Who's interiering with the trade of their different coma. tries, and giidog uue an unfair advantage over another, Which llti. measure was calculated to do. air W. 'minded the house that they wets not only to consider the interests of the consumer, they must also recollect those of the grower and shipper. He Ilintielst the duty now proposed was ru high, it would °pet - me as a prohibition. At this pet bid of the proceedings a considerable degree of u•utfusiva was occasioned by the surldeu utdi►p°sitiwt of :11r. Williams, wit., fainted is the house. The hon. uteruber recovered ►efficiently, on being removed to one of the committee rooms, to pi tweed home shortly after so a carriage. Si, IL PARNELL withdrew 61x amendment. Mr. J. I'. GRANT Gave notice, that when the repo►l was brought up be would move that it should be re•com. unwed ruts the purpose we lillifetatOtid) of taking tufo constil, ration the propriety of fixing a duty of 11. Ss. on Baltic ileaiN, to be calculated' cubically, and an Caustic deals los. or Mr. W 11. LACE uidled t h e hon. gent. to move hls Mr. J. P. GRANT said he was ready to do so now ; but he itudeistood thu turns of the house would not per. The conunittee then divided on the question of agree. lug to . 'he resolutions, when there appeared..--For the n. ' 71, against it 21, majority 47 . We solders 1 tutu during our abatises a second divi sion took place, ou a proposition of Sir H. Parnell, for resirictiug the operation of any bill that might be Needed on tile resolutions fur five years, when there appeared.— For the motion IS, egainst ii Id, majority On our re-admission to the gallery we found Mr. G. Bennett making sonic observations on the juvesiiie els troller." bill, which, after • few remarks from Mr. T. Cuttctenay aul Mr. Dui:date, was ordered lu bo read a seectia tam: this day Wire maiiiii..—Adjoitroed. en.uak. *elm. b. The I ea: i iiii i s od to tur House of Petri, to beer the It Assent given by commission to CC134141 Lot os.) (For cutohnsahon see ,retell°. _ __.....rdle —.Mb _.; .