The National Register. — London, England, 1821-02-04 00:00:00

.--, • 11 C - ' w • •- s. , e . ~,4 4k 1, . .)...v---,s, --, ~.....5,..1 . . 5 ... --... <- .' -- -• • K''' : THE NATIONAL REGERIST I complaining of the conduct of Ministers, particularly regarding the Queen • and praying that her rights might be acknowledged. Ile concurred with the Petitioners observing that the Vote of Saturday was more calculated to bring that house into " hatred and contempt,' as well as the institutions of the country, than any other recent proceedinga.—(Hear, hear.) Petition ordered to lie on the table. N seLes, &c.—Lord CASTLEREAGH, in reply to a question from Sir IL Wilson, said lie should have no ob jection to produce all the information in his power regard ing the Continental notes touching Naples, dcc. PRAYERS TOR THE QUEEN.—LOIII A. HAMILTON gave notice, that on Monday se'tinight he should move for copies of all the proceedings against a Scotch Clergyman, who had prayed fur the Queen. A petition was presented from Litchfield, in favour of the restoration of the Queen's name to the Liturgy, and condeenniug the general conduct of ministers.—Ordered to lie on the table. Lord NUGENT presented a petition from Aylesbury, condemning the conduct of miniAers, and praying the House to cause a change of system. The throne, his Lordship said, could not be safe where the feelings and interests of the people were against those of the King and his Ministers. He hoped such a slate of things would be averted. Petition read, and ordered to lie on the table. SUNDAYNEWSPAPEESI. Mr. RUTTER W ORT H moved for an account of all Newspapers published on Saturday or Sunday throughout the metropolis; also for an account of the produce to the revenue fur stamp duties by sods rapers for the last 20 years, distinguishing each jeer. — Ordered. 1)r. LUSHINGTON gave notice, that lie would move, on Monday the 21st, for the removal of Mr. Ellis from the office of Master of the Irish Chancery.—(Cries of hear! ) Mr I)ENMAN presented „a petition from Sutton-in- Ashfield, in the County of Nottingham, for the restora tion of the Queen to her privileges, at c. He was con vinced that, if the petitions on this subject had been all read, they most have had an effect on the kingdom.— The exclusion of her Majesty's name was ass act of gross injustice to the Qum', as it was prejsidication. He ridiculed the cry of responsibility among tern, and ' designated the Order in Council as not only an act of injustice to the unfortaate female, but an act of suspicion and disloyalty to the King.—(Hear, bear I)—He also presented • petition from the Amicable Society of the Town of Nottingham upon the same subject. Mr. MIME presented a petition from Dundee against ministers, not only for their conduct against the Queen, lint fur Weir extravagance. He also presented a petition from the weavers of Leith, for the restoration of her Ma jesty's name to the Liturgy. The member for Edinburgh bad, he understood, refused to present It. Mr. DUNDAS said, the persons who wished him to present it, required that lie should snppoi t the petition. He returned the petition in order that they might decied whether or not be was an eligible person to present it. Mr. HUME read the correspondence between the pe titioners and Mr. Miks, from which it appeared that the Right Hon. Member had given an iniqiialified refusal. (Hear, hear!) Mr. Hume would lease it to the House to decide between tbem.—(Louil cries of hear.) Lord MILTON said the Right Hon. Member's (Mr. Dundas) letter was at variance with his explanation. Mr. DUNDAS said he had nut refused. He only said, " I cannot present it."—The petition was then laid on the table. Sir ROWNALD FERGUSON presented a petition from Kirkcudbright for the resturatiouiof the Queen to her pri vileges. He declared that if ministers hail to depend solely on the Scotch, they wont(' riot have a kg to stand npon.—(Laughter, and cries of hear.) In Ethubnrgh the Loyal Petition was signed by 1600, while the Petition in favour of the Queen was signed by 17,000.—(Hear. hear !)—The Scotch petitions did not say a word of the Liturgy, for, thank God, these petitioners prayed without trammels.—(Hear, hear.) The LORD A DVOCATE contended, that in Scotland the feeling which had formerly prevailed now existed—its loyalty was unchangeable.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.)— The majorities in the loyal petitions were the men of most landed property. Mr. KENNEDY deified that the majorities were the men of the greatest property ; the country, he declared, was not represented, and a there could be,.iso peace until it ' was represented.—(Hear, hear.) Lord BINNING *aid, the Scotch County Meetings de clared the sentiments of the landed interests. There was no desire particularly amongst the counties generally for Parliamentary Reform. Mr. J. P. GRANT would ask the House which of the petitions was most likely to speak the sentiments el the people, that Windt was signed by 1601), or that which was signed by 12,000? 31r- ABERCROMBIE said, that it was ludicrous to say that the Comity meetings iu Scotland, which were com posed of none but a few interested persons, expressed the public °pilaw'. Sir G. WARRENDER said, that among the men of great landed property fir Scotland, there was but one Ilentilllent with respect to ministers, and that was in their favour.—(Hear, hear ! and a laugh.) He hoped the rest 1/1 the people would collie hack to their proper senses on the subject. Scotland would take the lead.—( A laugh.) Mr, BROUGHAM said, it was not to be endured that the people should be said to be our of their senses. If they were, it was a bad way to remedy the disease by telling them they were mad.—(Hear, hear.) Sir R. WILSON presented a petition 11001 din Parish of St. Saviour, Southwark. He was satisfied that if MS. nesters rcco iiiii iended the measure of placing her Ma. jesty's name in the Liturgy, there could exist no obstacle. Mr. CA I.VEItF vappoited the Petition, in doing w hull he hoped Ministers would now du as they had promised —retire upon trading that they had out the cuntitleuce of the people. Mr. WESTON presented a Petition from All Saints, West Ilaiu, in Essex, for the restoration of the Queen's Dame to the Liturgy. Mr. WI LSON (the City Member) took the opportunity to state, that ll was unfair to say that ail tho-e oho signed loyal addresses approved of the conduct of Slillielef6. lie hod signed a loyal Address without any idea of expressiug ins approbation of the conduct of Milligeft, (Hear, hear.) When they should give their reasons for their conduct, lie iniAtit he as any utsnrr to ....UMW' lir. W. Shake that he vhouiil, on Friday, move for Papas to (lieUuuner ill Ist.iclt the Slave liaild .. l.lll, slUnf vs/ 10 °Wei urIIVW. (Hears hear.) ' fitiperfat 'Davit/Intent. -4 HOUSE OF LORDS, _ WIIINESDAY. lAN. Si. . .. The I.OaD CHANCELLOR attended the Howe, and heard an appeal argued by Counsel. On the motion of the Earl of SHA FT ESRURY, it was ordered that uu petitions fur private bills be received after the ISt h April. Ttraza TRADR.LOrd GRANVILLE presented a pe tition numerously signed by persons concerned in commerce, praying the removal of restrictions on foreign trade. After a few observations from the Morquis of Lansdowne, the petition was laid on the bible. YIIURSDAY, Fri. 1. The House met at an early Iwur , but no public business was done before five o'clock. NAPLES.—The Earl of LIVERPOOL laid on the table a copy of certain despatches communicated to Foreign Powers.—The Noble Earl stated, that this return was made pm-swim to addrass voted yesterday. He then moved that the same be printed. Ordered. Lord HOLLAND said, he could not ■void feeling a little Inquisitive, notwithstanding the explanation given to the question of a Noble E irl un R former 'night. 'flue Pipers which the Noble Lord had just laill'on the table referred to a subject on which no less depended than the national welfare, peace and happiness of mankind. On ■ subject of such importance the Noble Earl would no doubt excuse any apparent pertinacity. lie understood the paper on the table to be a detail of participatinu in all Treaties made by the Allied Powers, and a refusal to 'auction the principles on which war against Spain and Naples was to be carried on. In that view, lie was de shuns of asking the Noble Earl whether the said Paper had been officially communicated to the Government of Naples and Stiehl, as well as the Governments of other States in Europe? The Earl of LIVERPOOL observed, that lie had no hesitation in stating, that the paper laid before the Howie bad been communicated to all his Majesty's missions at all the States of Europe, and it had even been sent to the Brazils. The House then adjourned to Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. WHIMEIWAY, JAN. 31. Mr. FREEMANTLE gave notice, that on Tuesday Next he shonld move for a Committee to inquire into the stale of the supply of water fur the metropolis. The following Petitions were then presented, praying that the Queen's name might be restored to the Liturgy, an inquiry into the Milan commission, the dismissal of his Majesty's Ministerl,Blc. Rielinsond, Yorkshire—city of York—county of Dur ham—and the Odd Fellows of Invernessand Inverkeithing. —Severally read, and ordered to be printed. A similar Petition was also presented from St. Giles, Camberwell.—Ordered to lie on the table. PARLIAMICNTARY REFORM.—Mr. WYVILL presented 32 Petitions from York, severally signed by 20 persons each, in favour of Parliamentary Reform. He hail had the Petitions in his possession forsome time, but he hoped they had not suffered by the delay, especially since there had lately been 310 reasons in favour of Parliamentary Reform. (Cheers.) 'Fite state of the representation was not what it ought to be. (Hear.) Mr. LAMBTON (Mr. Hoblionse haying asked the question) stated, 'het he did not propose to bring forward the question of Parliamentary Reform till after that regarding the Queen was disposed of; but he named Teeaday, April 10, for bringing forward that question. Mr. P. GRENFELL said, that during twenty years he had iesisted Reform, and should do so till lie understood the changes that were required. That House, lie had thought, represented the sense of the great body of the people; and he had also thought that it was controuled b public opinion. He confessed, that after the vote of of Saturday morning his opinions were considerably changed ;—(eheers)—that vote he did not deem to lie in venison with the sense and feelings of the country. (Loud cheers.) He now hoped that some moderate reform would be proposed, which a moderate man could support. (Continued cheers.) Mr. PHILLIPS said, that unless some reform took Flare , he apprehended the most fearful consequences. Mr. S. WORTLEY believed that the vote of the House was not in contravention of the voice of the country, but he did think that the question regarding the Queen ought to be set at rest—that she ought no longer to be pew gutted. (Cheers.) But that vote resulted from a change of Ministers not being desired to make way for the gen tlemen opposite—for those persons had not the confidence of the country. (Hear.) Mr. BARING observed, that a curious mode of com plimenting Ministers had been selected. What! were there no persons in this great country who could carry on the government as well as certain persons now in office ? It was a gross calumny on the country to say so mach. —As to the question of reform, he was not for any considerable alteration; but if the House should not now do something to skew that it sympathized with the country, it would have done more to procure its own rondeineation than had been accompli-lied by all the demagogues who had ever spoken. (Cheers.) Sir R. WILSON looked at the rejection of the tame of the Queen as the act of Ministers, and thought it would have been restored but for them. How, then, could the Ministers merit support? Mr. BUTTERWORT H had voted for the motion on Saturday, because he thought the rejection of the name an unjust act. And as honesty was the best policy, lie thought in the end justice would have been found to be the best policy. (Hear, hear.) He hail voted firms dif ferent motives than those described by the member fur Yorkshire. Sir F. BLAKE said, that the proceeding was arbitrary and he much feared that Ministers were blindly pro moting revolution. A wrong had been done, and redress ought to be granted. The aliui:ters had disturbed the tranquillity of the country, and he apprehended that the proceedings would affect the stability of the country. A palace ought to be granted at once to her Majesty ; her Hanle ought to he restored to the liturgy ; justice must be done, or the coniitry wontal not be at rest. Mr. CURW EN said, he hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer would see the propriety of relieving the ferm i s 1101 U the lAA on rgriculrural horses. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, at the e piesaut u.omrot, twe outlet stood him. to say) could not pl'ulitie any leiter m that paiticolar claw Mr. IIt.,NNETT psi:stela:it • Pctitiou trum Stamford, Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved fur leave to tiring lu a Bill to exclude the Borough of Grampeund from the Elective franchise, and to enable the Borough of Leeds, in lieu thereof, to rcluru Members, to Parliausenr.—L ea eo given. yarsesstow molt Tun Quagn.--Lord CASTLEREAGH moved that the Hums should take into consideration that part of his Majesty's Speech which related to the making provision for the Queen. Just as his Lordship submitted the motion. Mr. BROUGHAM lose and stated, that he had a Message to deliver to the House Roils her Msjerty. lie then read the follow Message : C•1110L1 IL—Tbe Queen having learned that the House of Comnsoas has appointed this day fur taking into consideration the part of the King's most gran ious Speech which relates to her, deems it necessary to declare, that she is duly sensible of his Majesty's ColljelCelk4loll in recommend. lug an arrangement respecting het to the attention of Par liament. She is aware that this recommendation must be understood as referring to a provision for the support of her estate and dignity ; and from what has lately lisssed, she is apprehensive that such a provision may be smatcompanieit by the possession of her rights and privileges in the ample measure wherein former Qreeits Consort, her Royal prede. cessors, have been wont in times past to enjoy them. " It is far from the Queen's inclination needlessly to throw obstacles in the way of it settlement which she desires in common with the whole country. and which she feels per suaded the best iuterests of all parties equally require; and being most anxious to avoid every thing that might create irrit ition, she cautiously abstains from any observation upon the um-sampled predicament iu which she is placed, hut she feels it due to the House and to herself respectfully to declare, that she perseveres in the resolution of declining any arrangement while her stains continues to be excluded fruin the Liturgy. " Brandenburgh House, Jan. 31, Hall." The readiag of this Message was followed by contihued cheers. On the Question being put a second time, for taking into consideration that part of the King's Speech relating to the slums, Mr. WESTERN rase amidst loud cries of " hear, hear." Ile declared that if the communication bad not been muck (ruin her Majesty, he should have opposed the motion. Ile them generally adverted to the existing distress, and recum• mended the adoption of some measure for reducing the ex pendi Lure of the empire. From this subject he passed on to the treatment which the Queen had experienced; and re probated the conclact of the Minister, who, at the very mu: mem that he declared the Queen to he an ridultrese,was ready to make provisson.—(Loud cries of hear.)—llid what hart occurred in the other House justify him in saying that the Queen had committed adultery 1 (Ilear.) Would not that be a libel out of the House which the Minister had declared openly in the Howe? Ile could not consent to the vote of a single shilling while this scandal hurl; over the object of this utlecied liberality. Ile concluded by muviag the pre vious questimi. Lord CAS I LEREAGII said, that certainly her Majesty would have an undoubted right to .bstain from taking any of the public money, after Ministers had acted iii compliances with his Mujesty'a wishes, by proposing a prOVISIOII fur fiCr• The KinA, tie assured the House, never had it in contempla tion to visit upon the unfortunate and illustrious individual alluded to any thin;; of punishment in the pecuniary way.— (A laugh, and cries of hear !) When the House made a grout it was not to her Majesty, or to any other subject they made it, but to the Crown, and tier Majesty could only receive it from the Crowe. Of course it would be in the Queen ' s power to refuse to take any thing from the Crown, a line of conduct which she might adopt, as soon as it would suit her Majesty's convenience. The Queen was, he regretted to say, travelling every day into cuu,titutiuual errors. (A laugh, and cries of hear, bear, front both sides of the Ilease.) She seemed to be aiming at erecting a great power, inde pendent of the Constituted Authorities (Load cries of Hear ! from both sides), and appeared aimiumi to dispute the al legiance to the Crown. (Ironical cries of Hear from the Opposition, and cheers front the Ministerial beaches.)—lle had heard every whete of a new title which nits put upon the people of ibis country—they were culled" her Majesty's people, her Majesty's subjects."—(Cries of "Order, order," and „ Chair," which lasted some moments.)—The 11 , ,use was in the greatest agitation. Mi. WE'I'HERELL started up to speak to order. He understood the Noble Lard to allude to him , as one who called the people "her :Majesty's subjects,"—(No, from the monsters, and cries of Chair.) Lord CASTLEREAGH again ruse, but there were de:diming cries of Chair and Order. Mr. HUME called upon the noble Lord (Castlereagh) to state to the House whether meant whet lie seal or whe ther he said what he meant ?—(Cries ut Order, Order, and Chair.) The SPEAKER interfered, and declared that Mr. Home was at all events extremely out of order. Mr. HUME declared that Lord Castlereagh was de cidedly disorderly in attrilouting to the Queen that of which he was incapable. 'Die noble Lord had been dis orderly in saying that her Majesty was travelling into con stitutional errors, and in ins 1111 l uting that she encouraged the people to consider themselves tier subjects in mina distinction to the established authorities recognised by the constitution. The noble Lurd ought to state his audio! ity. Lurd CAS'ILEREAGH disclaimed any idea of alluding to Mr. Wetherell im the course of his observations; but deprecated the course taken by Mr. Hume in the debate. The true English of her Majesty's message, which had been just delivered, was, that lie should not acquiesce in any measure fur restoring the nation to a state of peace, unless every thing she demanded was acceded to. (Laud cries of Hear, and symptoms of great agitation in the House.) If such a desperate course could find advocates, if men could be found desperate enough to advise and support a system of this nature, what security could [hoe he for the permanence of tranquillity in this tuition i He fur one should, with all his might, stand by the estas blisked authorities : be should support, in opposition to any other power, the authority of George the Fourth, and he would not hear that authority dictated to by any indi vidual. Mr. TIERNEY defended the conduct of those who had advised the Queen, since her arrival in this country, and declared that her Majesty's conduct had been, smiler all the distressing circumstances ut her situation, must singularly calculated to do her service in the minds of a 11111114111 e, geneions, and independent nation. He particu larly dwelt upon the discretion which marked her con - duet, in sendiag to the House a eta, 4111illOUS rejection of auy pecuniary provision. if bet Majesty tad not •• r C' . % F