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Mr CANNING observed, that he should vole against the instructions which he had received. Instructions that he should have otherwise supported,on the understantling that the whole subject shrink, be ecoosidered next year. He pursued this course Ics cause something like compromise had taken place. Mr. BARING renmi keel, that he was 110 party to snch compromise; and altleaigh lee did not feel disposed to press his amendment under such eircumsletiase, he could not hut consider it an absurdity to legislate in such a mower fur a limited period, determining next year to take up the subject. Mr. W. &girl! could not think that any member had the deliberate intention of destroying the West ludia sugar trade, as some had imagined, who had heretofore spoken.— Clauses agreed to.—Report ordered to be received to-morrow. A message from their Lordships requested that the Louse would comtnuniente a copy of t h e report of the committee on agriculture. Ordered. Lord A. HAMILTON gave notice, that to-morrow he should move the repeal of the obnoxious clause of the act passed April 19, in the excise act, touching the Scotch brewery. &oven Srsur Orrica—Mr. HUME brought forward his motion respecting the proposed new stamp office in Edinburgh, and the proceedings adopted fur its building.— After sonic investigation, it was found that a place in Edin burgh called Durabreck's hotel, would suit for the new stamp office; nod its purchase for 8,0001. was recommended. This was, however, resisted from private and other motives, and etlectually, fur a purchase for ti scite of ground was made near the Regent's-bridge for 35,0001. ; and thus complete job was begun. It had continued three years, instead of baring bought the other place, where nn office was nearly ready prepared; and by such interruption serious injury had been done to the public business. Ile considered the alike as a very rank job. He concluded with moving n series of resolutious declaratory of the facts and censuring the proceeding, particularly the interference of the treasury with the hoard of stamps. Sir J. AIAJORIBANKS explained the transactions, observiug that the laud in question had becu put up to auction. Lord A. HAMILTON supported the resolutions. The motion was ultimately negatived without a division. Mr. HUME then proceeded to state, at excessive length, the ;pounds of his motion for an address to his Majesty,' praying him to direct the greatest possible economy iu all branches of the goveinment.—Th i s was strenuously opposed by ministers, and Mr. BANKS moved, by way of amendment, that there be presented as humble address to his Majesty, to assure his Majesty that we have received with satisfaction the mere- ' sures taken by his 51ajesty's commands for a general revision of expenditure in the department of the customs of Great Britain, and to entreat that his Majesty would be most graciously pleased to direct a similar investigation to be ex tended to alt the other branches of the public revenue, fur the purpose of making the collection inure economical and the management more efficient. Arid that for the put - . pose of giving further relief to the country, his Majesty would be graciously pleased to direct a moil minute inquiry into the several departments of the civil government, us well for the purpose of reducing the numbers employed as with eference to the increased salaries grouted during the lute war, and since the year 1797, in cousideralion of additional labour Biro% II upon individuals and the change in the value of motley. And further, that his Majesty would be graciously pleased to direct that every personal saving consistent with the public juiciest shall be effiected iu those more extended departments of the public service which the country is oblieed to maintain, and more especi ally in the military expenditure, Icy a reduction in the ;lumbers of the army, acid by a coustant and vigilant super vision of all the depairtmeuts of the state, for which such ample sums have been provided by the liberality of par liament. This amendment was seconded by Mr. Gooch, and carried, 011 a division, after a very long debate, by a majority of 80. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjourned. IMIIIIMDAV, JUNE YEL The consolidated fund bill was rend a third time and passed. The warchuuseing goods bill was read a third time and passed. Mr. Johnson of the chief secretary's office, Ireland, pre sented put ticulars of sums paid to the editor of Ilse Dublin Gamete, for inserting proclamations. The LII ANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved fur as bill to amend the act 57 Geo. W. cap. 84, fur issuing es t heqner bills fro public works. The right hou. gentleman explained the amendments lie required, particularly as far us concerned the power of postponing the period of re payment, &c. Motion agreed to. The packet vessels licences bill went through a committee. Report ordered to be taken into further consideration. hlr. C. WHITBREAD gave notice , that on Monday next he should submit a motion to the house respecting sociely calling itself th e " Constitutional Association." Mr. lil.AI It mewed for a series of accounts respecting the gumii tes amid strength of spirits distilled in England, Scot land and Ireland, for home consumption and exportation, within the last year.— Ordered. Lord M ILION presented a petition from occupiers of houses at Kingston upon-Hull, complaining of certain rates imposed WI them by the curproati tttt . His Lordship gave notice, that next session he, or a learned friend should bring forward this subject. Mr. Sergeant OUNSI.OW moved, that a message be sent to the I.oids for a copy of their Lordships' report of the examinations of the rolls of parliament, respecting the dig iiity of a peer.—Order eel. be eet.v.—The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to questions put by Mr. Grenfell, said as to the teat cc of business, he was willing tic take the supply order first, betuie the order respecting the Duke of Clarence; and that tee supported the report respecting Gen. Desfourneaux's claim, he considering the committee as I (Armes between the parties. eh r. DEN MAN presented a second petition from Mr. Edwards, praying for compensation for hisses in ellliellVOUr• illg to raise the Royal George. The mellupolis water supply bill wits read a second time, and ue dell ll 11/ 11e committed 1111 Tuesday. Au tricecll it AL 11011.0 TA x.—lend MILTON 1111 l veil that the ngtirulorill liaise tax repeal hill be lead a [laid tittle. He had untended to 'e it clause to tell:nye Minh,- respecting agricultural Lows occasionally la t out to hue; hut, in tlir • Seel of its bra n ; carried, era it mi,1,l deftoit lhr Arbil:Al 016 'lie 1011. tic should eebeue,loee the iiiteot to any difficulties that might Mesh tea pee-011, 1'll• THE NATIONAL REGISTER conga:kneed, he hoped that the doubts would receive the too,t liberal construction. Mr. DA V ENPORT also hoped that such doubts, if any arose, would experience the Boost liberal construction. 'rite CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER expressed his appiobut ion that the clause would out be proposed. Mr. BRIGHT said, the 11,11, us it am w stood, might ex pose agticultupal persons to vexatious charges uad sur charges. Lord MILTON oh - creed, it was it the view of meetiag such case lie had Intended to propose the clause of a latch he bad given notice, as the hill applied to horses used " softly" fur the purooses of agriculture. Mr. SMYTH remarked, that if the collectors construed what had been deemed doubts, against the farmer., he hoped that another hill would be introduced to i motive then,. Mr. DENMAN made sonic remarks, after which the bill was read the third time, passed, and ordered to the Lords. REPORT or SEPPLY.—MG GOULBUILN presented the report of the committee of supply. Mr. cm.cRA rr opposed its being received. There were in this teptirt nu fewer than lot resolutions ; to many of them he had objections, but he particularly complained of that which voted 20,0001. to Gen. Desfourneaus. Though he only particularly complained of that resolution„ he thought it would be better to oppose the whole repot t, as the most likely way of bringing the right hon. gentleman to some terms. There had been a good deal of talk about economy on the preceding evening, and now members would have the opportunity of carrying their principles into prac tice; and what would be more ta.;reetible, there would be no occasion to disturb the place or pension of any one; they had only to withhold their approbation of their Guadaloupe claim, which had slept for upwards of twenty years, and which was wholly unknown to persons who had been in the island at the time or since. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he would consent to take this resolution first, and it was lbs II read accordingly. Mr. CALCRA FT then proceeded to examine the claim, reading the evidence and doctiments presented to the com mittee un Gen. Desfoutneaux's claim; according to whirl' it appeared that the items were rejected by the board of army accounts and the treasury, and strange to say, in these economical times, hail been adopted by a committee of that house. How that house could think of listening to such claim, especially after the General had been rejected by the French goverumcnt, he was at a loss to determine. it was extraordinary that this claim should be again brought fora ward ; but it seemed persons abroad were interesting them selves much in this affair. Even French bankers, it was rumoured, had exercised their halm:nee in this all one French banker, who occasionally crone to this country, bad written and personally solicited members of that house to support his claim. The only item that was proved was oae for 1,4001. to Mr. La ISruinyere ; and after all they had heard 111 favour of econotny, he thought they could not do better Gum carry the principle of economy into effect un the day ' after the address in favour of it hail been voted. Mr. WILSON said, he should not bo uussillins: to sup port proper economy—but he could not agree that the claim had not beau established. Mi. WARNE thought the house ought to agree to the course proposed by the lion. member for Wareham (Mr Calera° ; and argued against the claim. Mr. P. GREN FELL also opposed the claim ; lie was ready to agree to the granting of 35001. which was the 1,4001. and compound intertor, Mr. H. SCAM lilt likewise wspported the amended and reduced grant. He did not think the honour of the nation concerned in favour of the grout, he rather considered that they %sere hound to defend the untiun against what was often and truly charged on them namely, eitreme gullibility. Mr. W. PEEL also resisted the grant. Mr. H. GURNEY thought, as there MIAS such difference of opinion, it would be adviseable again to refer the matter to a Committee. . . . Mr. K. DOUGLAS feared that many were resisting the greater grant who had not read all the evidence. The imputation about French bankers he considered to be of an unworthy character. The recommendation of the Committee was certainly not binding on the House, but it ought to be remembered that they had bestowed a good deal of attention to the subject ; he thought so much stress ought not to he placed on what had been done by the Comptrollers of the Army Accounts and the Treasary, especially as the Committee followed. Mr. IRVING spoke in support of the larger grant. It had not been voted by the Committee as a legal but as au equitable claim ; on that ground he supported it. The evidence justified the result to which the Committee had come. Ile thought they had came to the result to which the evidence had compelled them to come ; and as the items were so well supported, he thought the circumstance of their having remained so many years unsettled was an argument in favour of their being uow settled. The House divided—Against the larger grant 4l—For it 6. On the Grant for Henry the VIPs Chapel, the state in which Mt. and West ster Abbey were allowed to remain was complained of. The several resolutions were agreed to ; and the re mit' g °ideas having been disposed ul, the House ad journed. FRIDAY. .11:111E 29. Mr. HUAIE moved for returns of the different sums paid to newspapers in Great Britain for advertisements, proclamations, dre. by the several public offices for the last thi ce years.—/le also adverted to the practice of making fair copies of the votes of the house; previously to the introduction of printing, this might be useful, but new he thought the expence could be saved. The SPEAKER stated, twit according to a recent act the services of the house were now paid fur by lived salaries; the fees, &c. were formed into a fund for such purpose; and as the daily votes were printed in consi derable haste, the practice mentioned was useful to pre vent mistakes. SCOTCH BREWERIES. —Lord A. HAMILTON then rose, pursuant to notice, for leave to bring in a bill to te peel that clause of the acts of the Ist and 2il George IV. requiring accounts and certilicates of the sale of beer its Scut land. He contended that the rigislations were im practicable, or it they were practicable, they must pot the !newels to such expences as would niaterirlly diminish the pi obis, and probably less( ii the cons lotion. III• concluded with moving fur leave to bring in a bill to r else al those clauses which ictinired certificates and accuue► books of the sales of beer. Mr. MA Xl% ELI. seconded the motion. The clan c~ were of an obnoxious and nnlui itorial character; and the lioes only object 1% Wild Le to collect s SUHICIVUC) ul 'CV( bile. 203 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER 'mask d that, according to all he could keen, and from consul - cations with well-informed persons, he could not see that the objections were well founded: under all the circum stances, he mast oppose the motion. Lord A. HAMILTON said, after such opposition, and as he was at issue with the Chancel:3r regarding the con struction of the act, he would not press his melon during the present session. The Cif A NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed, that lie had forwarded iustructiou■, that the mildest con sti uctiart should be put on the clauses. Motion negatived without any division. PovvEir or rite Juntas.—Nlr.llollHOUSE said, he had not brought forward ally motion respecting the con duct of a certain judge fining s defendant while adilressieg the jury, owing to the pressure of business before the house, and because lie thought lie saw no inclination ill repeat such practice; but it it were repeated, he 311 , 1111.1 then bring forward a specific charge against whatever judge should be guilty of such conduct. Tonaceo DUTIES.—TheCiIANCELLOR of the EX CHEQUER postponed the report of the Tobacco Ditties hill till Monday, some clerital errors having crept into the copy of the bill. Mr. HOBHOUSE said, if two or three clauses were amended, it might hope to pass without opposition; it would certainly be resisted, when it possibly might be lost fur the present session. He hoped the Solicitor of Excise would come to terms with ti:e trade beture Aiwa day. The Isle of Man Trade bill, the Silk Bounties bill, the Stock Cancelling bill, Asc. were reported, and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved, that the remaining resolutions of the co 11111 l Rite of supply he agreed to. On the item that 8,4001. be granted for the salaries of the commissioners and clerks of the Insolvent Denims' Court, I%lr. G. RENNET!' must resist this grant, which gave the chief commissioner !..',OOOl. and the second com l is siouer 1,5001. Mr. BERNAL thonght it was beneath the chief cern missiouer's dignity to practise elsewhere as an advocate. After a few worts from the Attorney General, the resolution was agreed to. The next grant was 5,0001, odd foi the contingencies of the Alien Department. Sir R. WILSON objected to this grant, not on account of its amount, but became of the Anti- British object o. its application. (Hear.) The foreigner had the right of appealing to the privy council ; but the government ge nerally pursued such a plan as to defeat the provision. We were now in the seventh y ear of peace, and yet the country laboured under the opptobriurn of continuing this act. There was niore liberality in France and in Spain. A fact, that made the act disgraceful to Ireland—it was decreed that the ten dory ofSpain should be an inviolable asylum for foreigners. The hon. mein bee then mentioned the instances of Gen. Gourgand, ise. and contended that the act gave to ministers a vexatious and prejudicial power. It was now a general inquiry with fen eiguess whether they really had any chance of residing in this country, without being interrupted by the vexatious vi sitations of the alien police. lie proposed to give the resolution a direct negative. Mr. HO/MOUSE hoped that no session would be allowed to pass away without making some efforts to undo the mischievous policy which had been pursued by the noble lord. This bill was of the must execrable character, and it gave cause for the most unwarrantable opinions of the English by foreigners. Lord LONDONDERRY observed, that the gallant general could not hear " alien" mentioned without rising to address the house; but it could not be imagined that any sedum' opposition was to be offered to the alien de partment, which system had received the sanction of parliament. It was to continue for one year longer— (hear, heat); if application for its renewal were made, then would be the time fur the resistance. With respect to the principle of the alien act, it would be remembered that its main object was to prevent aliens from nuking this country the seat where conspiracies against their own governments might be carried 011. Sir J. MACIN FOSII said, if a division were pressed, be should support the gallant general. Regarding the policy of the act, he maintained that it was impolitic than at the present moment, when the foreign powers bad avowed the iuteution of resisting the changes and tetorins of all governments wherever their arms cuuld reach. As such was the ease, what was to become of those who might excite Use hostility of their own govern. racists? The gallery Wag then cleared for a division. The num bers wet e, Ayes 41—Noes 47—Majority 17. The other resolutions were then pat and carried. The house went into a committee ou the Duke of Cla rence's Annuity Hill, in which an amendment was moved to till up the blank as to the period when the additional six thousand pounds a year is to cotninetsee, with 1621, instead of 111 d. The committee divideu--For the original motion, it—For the amendment, 2,l—lklajot ity, 30. The house resumed, and the repot t or deltd to be re ceived to•mos row. The horse then went into a committee on the Apes 0- priation hill, in which the several blanks nett• li,lcd up.— Ordered to be received to-mot tow. Mr. HUME availed himself of the opportunity to take his farewell of the lonise for the pr. s.III SeS.l,lll. 11 the ministers would only catty into eiket %%fiat lie had on various occasions proposed, they would tend (Intl he had brew the hest Ii lend they ever po. s ois e d,, tie adv t ., tett In soote passing pi nereiiings, and said, legarding the coin. nation, that he should riot ii, but doubtless lie staasilil hear of it by the elipCileeb 11141 would be 1111111 , t11. The ;renal ii iii g orders haring been disposed of, the house adjourned. ANGIANG IN THE AIR.—As G. Ostaddeatun, Esq. was fly-fishing in the river Trent, at Sawley, on Saturday last, the artificial flies, while floating in the air, attracted the appetite of a brace of birds passing in that direction ; they immediately seized thou, when finding themselves Barke d t h ey rose to a considerable height, till exhausted, and were then drawn down and taken ; but it being the breeding season, like a true Sputtswaa, Mr. 0. set them at liberty but little hurt.