The National Register. — London, England, 1823-03-02 00:00:00

1 %. r ~ not due, 'Mance rewired, f Duke d'l utli inst. ter.)--Etery thing - belief that Austria will confine herself to the suspension of her diplomatic relations 'with Spain, and that her com mercial intercourse will not be interrupted. If Aut. trig, at the Congress of Verona, appeared to depart' for a moment from the desire to maintain peace, it was because it was-urgent to divert Rutile. from an attack on the east of .Europe, which she bly long contemplated. In giving a kind of tacit goriest to a war in the west, she as a consequence( 'aimed Russia to renounce theidea of a ruptuie n4ts,.the Porte. This pacific system explains the frequent ei change of couriers between Vienna and London. DEBATE ON THE BUDGET. M. Royer-Collard' opened the debate in • long and able speech, in which he foreiblY deprecated war: he was followed by M. Labourdormaye, who stuck to - his old text of abusin g Ministers fur not going to war soon e r, b u t a t th e e same time supported the muting for the subsidy: then followed M. La borde, who painted in striking colours the dangers of tear, and the all but impossibility of success: next came M. de St.. Guy ?: wk/Aptial for the war, on the . ground of supporting-The dignitrtritirroWn.' • • Delessert then delivered a sensible speech against war, in winch he quoted the report made to the Senate in 1808, by the Minister of Buona parte, in favour of war with Spain ; and obsitrved upon it, that the Chamber would bee how much men in power resembled each other, as Buonaparte's justification rested on the tame ground us that of M. de Wide. 111. Castelhajac made a declamatory harangue in favour of war. General Foy, with great clopencc, lamented that an army, which he ;is un old soldier could not help wishing to succeed, should be employed in a set vice in which, as an honest man, he must hope it would tail. The Minister• %/ flick then spoke as follows:—` Gentlemen,—The Governin'ent will find in the discussion the greatest justification which could be made of the course which it has adopted respecting the affairs of Spain. In fact, of all the speakers who have attacked the appropriation at funds pro. posed by' the Government, none have advanced the objection which ought naturally to present itself to those who oppose that appropriation; that is, to prove to the Government that it is iu error, in re garding the honour and security . of the country to be incompatible with the present state of thin,•s. I ask every candid man whether this be not the real question? Is it not the proof iv:,ich ought to boa brought forward at this.tr►buue? But when, instead of endeavouring to impress this conviction on your minds, it is attempted to alarm you on the conse quences of the war, and to go into digressions on the' opinion of this 'or that Minister, on this or that act, foreign to a question so important, then, I say, it is confessed that this question cannot be otherwise re solved than the Government itself has resolved it of approval On the right.) The Deputy who opened this debate, who dis puted the right of intervention, has taken care not to. approach this point of the difficulty: he has throughbut supposed the sta:C of Spain so regular, so conformable to principles which could not be applied except to ourbelves, dim he has exhibited it vs she condemnation of thosa who are impressed Kith the necessity of combating it: but he Would certainly be bouhd, according to his own principles, to come to very different conclusions, if he had diskosed tooview the present state of Spain, such us armai would hare avoided -__ e have tried every means lie Theintain amlealde relations with Spain—me have tried by every Means to avoid the calamities of war • but things' be brought to the •situatien in which' they are, and its long as the state of Spain shall continuo what it ii at present, I de elate thot'there is but one way of attacking the swurattue of Government, and that is to prove that ' it can with honour, with safety, with less injury ' than wOl *auk to the interests which are represent- Od tp uses being compromised by war,_ maintain Ammo with that country. • The honourable Deputy who bos done Me jtutice with respect to this perticuhir of my character, might huve rendered me equal juice with respect to another: it is, that it was estbi, to bear the res. punsibility of office in time* so d i it and' trouble some as the present, th a t I renounced an advantage which I sus as likely tesprocnans with the ideas which ho gives me credit fur, as 017 body else. Al suredly, I cannot given better pletof my °envie tion that it is impossible fur us, • honour and safety, to remain in our present situation, than is to be found in my not having quhtqd ofilee with the opinion that would be uttachellesmy eoatiirieiits for tire preservation of Spain. lf there ii sacrifice to inake—if I am to give a pledge and a confirmation of the truth of my opinion, that what bus been done has been, as it ought, to be, commanded by the in terests of the King and of the country. I have I made that sacrifice, and I have given that pledge, by continuing in office with all the burdens they impose upon me, and by renouncing th e popularit y Which I should have acquired by quitting it. • A state of peaec appears to Me a hundred times ntiorh preferable than a state of war: so also does a 'nate of war to disgrace—to seeing the most solid s , interests of my country comprOmised; and this un doubtedly is the situation in which the Spanish re volution has placed us. (Numerous voices on the right, " Yes, yes; bravo.") For, as has often been said in tho course of this debate, it is only the blind. ness and obstinacy of the. Spanialisevolution which is to blame fur all the evils which may result from the present situation of things; and herein exists a great difference between the probability of events, and the comparisons which it has been wished to make with what has previously occurred in Spain. Yes, gentlemen, there is blindness, there is obsti• nacy, there is even forgetfulness of the interests of Spain on the part of those who at this moment go vern in Madrid; arid can you believe that in this situation a generous intervention s dictated by the most same(' interests on the part of France, will be received us was the first entrances& tho French ar mies into Spain ? The King declared to you in his speech, that if the wits be inevitable, he would contract its circle and limit its duration. In vsin will it be answered that such expectations were formal entertained, and that they were diauppointed. But why, gen tlemen, were they diaappointed ? Because the war was undertaken to et:tallish a foreigner on the throne of Spain, to overthrow the laws of the country, anti to convert the Peninsula into a province of France. But, when, far from entertaining any such inten. Awns, we only present ourselves totuotoin the au thNity of the legiticag&ver.. without wishing to impose any law, Vac; rail see how we curl be pre vented from always remaining musters of the power of circumscribing the mode of the war, and of miting its iloratiuu. You have been told, gentlemen, of the dangers t- .r• We have in the colonies should be captured in endea. vouring to enter our hiulours? Will it be those. who have speculated in colonial commodities.? (Laughter on the right.) • In very truth, gentlemen, I Lai al. most said that some individuals have displayed a de sire to abuse the credulity of the public ; for you know the state of our navy; you know that in the Asores, in der colonies, anti upon our coasts, we have a much greater number of vessels of war than that : of unhappy Spain, with whose vengeance you me nace us, can furnish from all her ports. In whatever point of view tlusdebate is consider. ed, it will of course happen the real question will be discussed; and that question is—ean the present state of Sp rip, of which the effects, as far us they relate to France, can no longer lie concealed, continue to exist without producing danger and dis honour to ourselves? You know the facts: you have seen the reply, which asks of France to with. , draw her army of observation from the Pyrenees. There is one condition of peace. Examine it, gen. tlemen, and tell us whether, c onsistently with the • • preservation of the-honour o f the Crown, and the security of the country, there Ws& say Aitha-part sor • fs.., t : hc King to take than that which he has deterinii.el upon taking. A member from this tribune has ad vanced an assertion entirely destitute of truth, and which I must repel. No, gentlemen, France has not demanded of Spain to adopt the I;rench chantr: France has not made to Spain any iminuation to • that effect, nor ought she to have done so. We have proved our own institutions: we know that they suit us ; but eau we answer for their suiting another people? Do you think us so little acquainted with the charactcr of the Spanish people, as to wish to impose upon them institutions which shall not have originated with themselves? I repeat it, we have no reproach to fear for our conduct towards Spain. I will say more: the Go vernment of the King has done all that way in •its power to maintain peace : it has Mad, the greatest sacrifices; an,i you would now accuse us, in this very tribune, if we had put up front any other peo ple what we have for six months endured from Spain. Nothing but the condition—l will say the almost pitiable condition—of Spain, could have in- • duced a state like France to exercise such astonishing forbearance. Het after having so conducted our selves for so lung a time, it was our duty to ask our selves if such a state of things could continue with,' out danger to our country ? We thought it could ' not; trial when the time came fur making known our opinion on this point, we did it front profound conviction. For my part, I think I have obeyed merely the dictates of my conscience. I think that peace is preferable to MY' but I think, also, that in the situation of Spain, the maintenance of peace is impossibleoul that at all events it would be more. dangerous than war. Fur these reasons, I think that you cannot refuse the subsidies that are reqoired of you. (A general movement of acquiescence on the right side of the chamber.) The discussion was then adjourned at six o'clock, for want of sufficient numbers to make u house. The galleries were filled with Peers of France and strangers of distinction ; but it was remarked that the English Ambassador was nut vresent. The Dean of Salisbury, while walking in his garden last week, fell .down in a fit of puralysili, by whit.h he lust the power of one sale, and atter lingering till Thursday last, he. exulted. . _ • ley .-... 4.. , ~..,.. „.0 ............. 4 , • 4,71 - 041: 4 1",. iGef:--s-•• .... 6 ,,,;:„. '"k 4 air .. - ..-c -dr- ditile - 111. ... "- --4.—.--ai - 0 11 ,........,,A 0 —4; ,%• . - . A•.. . . , --......., I l i , s' tli . j t , " aTtio t . 1 „ O\ .. .1 it k ‘ t _l re. . L k, 1 ...: .. tet + , .:. • , . . .. . •. • • . . . , ...t. . . . . . .... Our ilitts, tondtitatitst, aflb Kabosi. ' ' • . . _ -,.. I - - . e. . .• . . . , No. 1,40.—V01.. XVI. SUNDAY, M ARCH 2, 1823. * • . Patex 91v . , • . . I'4llo S PAPERS it is, such , as has plated us undet the necessity of which our commerce will be exposed. Is it possible f -.0.- baying recourse to war, since wi, could no longer that, hut French Chamber, French orators can come; PARIS, PER. 25,--W e h ave rece i ve d a l etter f rom remain at peace with that countr l wi t h bottom and forward to t e ll u s t h at t h e war w i th Spain will Bayonne, dated the 18th. Many fresh-troops had sodomy • compromise the interests of our commerce? (Voices not then arrived. Two mails from Madrid ware The boa, speaker 'whom Iha followai did- me on the left, " Yes, yes • they are already compro‘ due, but it was ex p ecte d t h ey Wou ld arr i ve on t h at j • ustice wheelie sold, the IPiesidelat of the Coun c il misel") They are already compromised, lam t o ld. • or the folloWing day. It was known from traveller; of miniiters would wish to P pesos, to avoid Gentlemen, I repeat the words, for an hon. member ' ' that Sladrid was quite tr anqu il. Th ere i s a report war. .He had no need to speak a Adiniater ;he has used-th eta before me. Y o u bring,intit this dia. 1 that Spaiv has d e t e rmi ne d, i n or de r to secure t h e had only to refer to them:lntim= of theidpnareli, cession prejudices which ou g ht not t o preva il i n i t. alliance of England, to side to her , if it should be to he certain that no hireneontiaaed The annunciation of war has predated all the &bet aired, Ceuta, Isaving e .and, haw. . arafileo * hit • • . loth .pa,pte . `over*Of•ttill Otte!stee; mid that ,edrot no. ' 16 . ' Ant brigade otifititalp eitnipago st to -be— . , • Duke d'Angouleme will arrive at Bourdeaux on the li t° / 4" " - WV* iliv —e ilNitur,iit ip the greatly pussies' to mention any substantial facts...-. mitustimt of our morstry, We could pot awash-, Yea; (Lively interruption on the left. Silence was rc. ioth inst. It consists of 13 individuals, 22 horses, and I have a l rea d y decl are d from tlAis teibutite` In the established, and the Minister of Finance proceeded.) - d two carriages, and 13 gendarmes for escort. • It is reported this afternoon, that 5,000 seamen secret committee, that it is with legret-...it is only —Ought we not to attribute that moral effect, to • " ,I have been ordered to be levied at Brest. because honour and safety require 4--that we have which I have just alluded, to the exertiohs of party VIENNA, Fza. 12..--(Extract from a private !et- recourse to at' {if it had been pomade to a v o id %Alit i Indeed, who can fear lest the vessels which ter.)—Etery thing tends to induc e th e belief that war, we would 'awe avoided it. We have tri e d we h ave i n t h e co l on i es s h ou ld hp t•aatarsul 1.. mni .. - I - 1 ha' ii I 1 1 U ~' AI • • •a 34 - .4 • • : y IF . ; 41 :14. • rip • :7% •, 1 ... I