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did not see him. Did you cot know he a ns there ?-1 Isnverever seen him. Diet you lee, nfter the Queen left the inn, any other Gentleman come to look at the remits ?-1 have seen no other except Herman de Grismn, who came to the hut to How long was he there ?—I cannot say. What part of the house did Grimm lodge in ?-11c lived in roam No. 12. Before her Royal Highness °sieved he lived in N 0.13. Did he give up No. 12 for the accommodation of this Princess ?—Nitt that I have seen. Did he not return after the Princess arrived, and go into No. 12, to look a hat was there ?—Yes he ran about mid looked at the ristiot. Was aloe any hotly with Lim alien he made the in speetion?—There was a gentletran—two gentlemen. Who were those gentlemen ?—One was his brother. Was he a German or an Englishman ?—I duMt know that t I never heard him speak. What is Herman de Grimm?—illinister von IVirtem• berg. %Who is his blather ?—I cannot tell. How long had you seen the Princess before the day you say you went into the room and saw her with Bergami ? I hate seen her very little. I had too much occupation to pay attention to. Did von wait on her at breakfast ?—No. Did yeti occasionally prepare the breakfast ?—No. went in to clean the room, awl then I saw her. Was it after that time you saw her in the room with ?—Yes, after. Dims she mean alit saw the Princess with Bergand after she was called in at breakfast time, or in the es cuing ? I saw the Princess with Bergatiii when I went into the coo nto wipe up some slop I bad made. This WO in the evening. Did the Prince s s dine in the ?—No. I did not see them dine in our Rill you swear th-y never dined there once ?—I can not swear to it, but I mser Saw them. Will on swear the Princess and Bergarni did not dine st,Court every day ?-1 cannot swear they dined at Cowl, or where they dined. Did yon see the Princess :ail lterglnii with the suite go to Court during the time they mete there have seen • a them go twice iti a carliage, but siliether they went to Conrt I do hot know. Have:onuses:it the Grand Doke come to the Inn to wait OW the krineess ?—The Gimlet Ditke amid several geniis:- 0.0 tame tip to the Princess. IVlsat do you meal[ by ruining up to time Piitices. r. n say nothing about it. Dill you suppose they came to pay their respect, toiler Pupil Highness ? —Yes, pooh:tidy they dot. Wheftdid her Ittiyal Highness Weise tlic Grand Doke?' —I saw 'WM go up stairs ; as they a ent up slid's, 1 went Clown stairs. % ill she swear the Grand Doke did not come to pay ids respects to the Princes en' the night she saw the Plumes , iu Dergante's room ?—I cannot say whether it Via 3 day or sight. tt bed you looked at the bed one morning, sea; it at the hole yon were making the bed ; I had uwinug else to dg with the bed. Had yea made any belt that morning befoi e %—That we the first I made. There was so reeler' In the town but a &gnarl( in it gutti coat. ~gn r 11.1. , !/!LN (i. The lord Chancellor toik his scat at is ithin ten minutes to ten. Prayers bowleg been read by the Bi dug) of Wineheiter, the 113111eS were reed over, null the follow - Mg Peers wriiix emed on necouot of 111 health, and for other cainies, viz.— Lord En •usi:dleu, Lind Ay, lestotry , Marquis of .:.tcku•;;ltam, and Lord Rivers. The debate 01111 w subject of permitting the Qtwens Cello sel to re-cross-examii.e a itm - •ses was renewed and coot i aurd to a great leugth : in the end it was agreed, that • tic.: de manded such a privilege, and (after a motion for adjourning, btoposed by Lord Erskiae, boil been iteatived by Ayes tit 1 Noes WO 1 '.llaiort •y • Coumel were called t.• the bar, nod the Lord Chancellor, addressing the QUeell ' s. Counsel, said, the House left them at !abort v to cross.:sumilw sv ttoe,ses atter examination, the liherty to call back, at a future day, any witness for sut further examination as tiny may desire. The witness Barbara h.ess was soon after brouglit to the Bar, and her crass-examination *as resumed by Mr. Brougham. Where do you live now ?—Near this house. ‘Vhere ? cannot say how far it is from this. I came in a coach. I Moil !scow how fir it Was it on this s ite the ricer?—W e came over n bridge. Who lives in the house %snit y ?-only the woman of titre hot-v. Where is your brother?—lle is Li WI me. In the sante house Has he gives you any money o. Did tie w.v or give you any money ?—\o. Did pier I:ruttier :lever promise to g iv: you money %—Not my hi id lit r. lie tonsil not protnise me money. It try rot?—Una (mild he promise me any thing? Do you Mean but {ly he has no money of his uo ti ?—Only that w inch took him wont hour?. V. hat trade is he ?—tie Wakes pots. Is he a workman or a manut.cturer ?—IIe is a master Putter. What is your father ?—My father was a Setjeant is the Army. I. you own father living?—No, I have a father-in-law. What is he t —.l master ts Did no person give you money after you came over in the rLip ?—No. Did 110 body promise to give you money after you came from Calahrunto England ?—N4I Ii0d) • Will you swear, on the oath you hove taken, no person promised to give you any advantage after you go hark from England I—Prohody has promised me any money ; but 1 have been told I should have the" dommagentent"(couipeusation) when I came home. What shoidd you have ?—I crosnot say. Who told you you should have compensations—The Minister. What Minister I—l said to him, I must be compensated for the loss of my situation. I said 1 shall lose my place. What Minister are you speaking of?—M. Von Bernstadt. Be told me, if I did not go, I should be forced to go. Who is he t—l cannot tell. Was he Miti6irr to the Grand Duke of Baden ?—I do not knot' whether he is leis Minister. Did he out come to see the rooms in the inn where you lived I—M. Von Bernstadt came there. Did nut Baron Couradin come to look at the toom?-1 41" • fift• _ o, THE NATIONA L 4LGIsTmt, -Did he come iatu the room when you wax t:akin the bed ?—fie Came to assist me in tlitiiing the mat tilt's. %Vito vulas these servants i—They weeethe Prioress's wervaialt. Had you her seen them before ?—I never raw Mena befit' a et any time nut once, and the Pet:mess was there when I saw them. Have you ever seen them since?—No; I have never seen them since. Did von ever see them at any time before yen nude the bed; Did they go away with the Prima:se %. -Yes, they went away wi , li her. One was dressed like a Yager. When you had the conveisatien Wail M. Bernstatit about eempenspition. what did von fay ? —I told hint, tons; 1 go, for it 1 did, I mild nob keep my place. I was a 'mailed women, and luau; other luusiiiiee. to attend to. I le Najd, It' I would not en 1 shoidul be forced. I then asts wet oil, I will go, and (i , d may settle the business as he pleased When yon asked far compensation, what did he say?— lie said he would net give me any thing. I was to leave it to the Gentlemen, and he had Ho doubt they would re. 1 COmpenAc me. Did she say she should be recompensed when she got home again I—N u. Had there been formerly any promise of a recompense i —No. Was no promise given to your husband, nr r any of your funds i.--I can 'swear nothing has been premised to me, and 1 do nut think ally promise was made to my hueband, because ha told me none was made. ' l','(. - e the Id or 18 ducats you received for going to 11a• not cr a recompette or to luau!--1 cannot say whether it was a reemnpe nee or a lean. Was there a gentieman of the name of Mandeville, or 111an-Devil, or any mane of that sort, at the inn?—l do not know. What did you get from persons who stra . tt there?—The gilts were trillions; ti , ey immed a common puree, which was divided with the othet servants every onarter. She never wmked it a place railed I)te Glass-house, a shot t distenee from Ca ris rho e, W it I ion l her husband?—She never had any court isation with any one abort going to the Countess of Oldi. When Were yon lb st in tli:s }base?-0u Fi iday. Were vest never here beim e t—Na. She had Hever been in any but two houses since her :travel ill Lug hind, the bruise she was then in with tier husband, and tne hotel, when they first landed. Lord Mansfield—When the witness made the bed in the itierning,had the bed the appearance that two persons slept hi it T—No. After a few 'questions of no general importance, the Earl of Landers/etc observed, that he had abstained from asking any tinestion which unght arise oat of his know ledge of the documente submitted to the Secret Commit tee; it was not fide tier manly to take any advantage in that respect. The Noble Earl then put the following question to the witness:— When you took the breakfast to the Princess, do you recollect who is i in the room ?—There were several Ladies .ind Gentlemen; I do not know their names. The Countess Oldi was there. The Princess's LOOM 44* gene rally shut after she sate Bergami come tint. JOSEPH! BIANCA Sworn. Examined by Mr. Parke.—What ,cuuntryman are you?—An Italian Swiss. What part of Italy do you come from ?—Venice. What is your employment at Venice?—l ant guard at the Grande Bretagnia Inn. how long have you been in that employment ?—Fourteen years. Do you recollect seeing the Princess at Venice ?—1 do; I have seen her there. How long is it since you saw her there?—About five years ago. Was she at the Grande Bretagnia ?—She was there three days. When she came to the house what establishment had she:— Three couriers. One was Bergami, another Theodore Majoeci. Had you access to the Prit.eues?—l had almost every day. Fur what purpose did you go ?—liceause it always happened I had to carry something. Do you recollect Bergami ?-1 do. Did the Princess puichase any thing at Venice ?—She did, a rich gold chain. The jeweller came whets the Prnwess wits a dinner. Did ycu sec Bergami with the Princees?—lie was always behind her chair Lit dinner in a Iles .ur dress. Did you ever see Bergami and the Pi inceas together after the rest of the company left the room —I have. What passed when you saw them together I—l mw yie Prin cess take the gold chain from her own neck, and put it nand the neck of het courier, Bergami, who took it front :its neck and put t round the Princess's neck. Ile then took her by the hand and accuenpanied her to the saloon, where they went out together. Did the witness see any tiling more than this betweea them? , --I have not. After the chain had been put a second time on the Princess's neck, did they go away immediately, or stay in the room ? They went away inuneliately. Did you see Bergami a second time at Venire 7—Yes. After the Prince's came from Triune she lodged there. Had Berg ami any particular order of Knighthood ?— lle had a string of orders; Jewel& how war he called?-1 lieiml him called Baron Bergami. In what manner did the Princess and Bergand conduct them selves after going out of rite room the fire time they were there? —lle took her by the littlid, led her to the door, and :,he and he went out together. Did you see the Princes; and Bergami tegeti.er the second time they were at Venice?-1 have been theta go out together every day. During bow many days?—Four days. They went the :ream 1 day to the canal. Were .hey always attended Ly servants?—Thera were alwayssettle with them. They were always:um in arm. Did you ever give your arm to the Princess?—l never gave my arm, but I gave my hand. Crass-examinu I by Mr. Denman. Did you see tai, ta:ll,:t:tif..l of the gold chitin through the be. ale ?—I wr. i in the mourn. kel rhea they 1,.. , ..• you vcry plain whets they did this ?—I was there. Was you ever at Milan ?--I have been there. What compensation had you for going there?-1 received nothing bat my travelling expenco. Did you reu e.ve a sum of money ?—No, the Commisiary came , to take me trout Venice, and lie igtid my eepences. What are you to have for coating here?—l have reeeiveil nothing but my expincet. What bargain have you made fur coming here?—None. I have made no agreemete, but if they give mite something I shall take it. Who made you go to Milan?—Col. Brown and Vismacarti. lle came from Venice without any pay, and he had no demand on any body. Who have you lived with in this country ?—Witli several countrymen. Was Theodore Matocci one ?—Yes. Will you swear you have had no conveisatioa with that mal about do: evidence yon are to give here?—Yes, lie coold given that. lie had breakfasted with Ainjoiet during. the I:e.t f:Jrt night. Di .1 diet- sup toget' , .er, nod reite , in the whole day together ? —Not thitaule yuy, beatuee .'slajoe‘i was with lu, Wit. sooe.!- titn.... What was the name of the jmeller who brought this gohle3 ehain ?—Butourdi. _ I, Bernardi one of the 25 Itolians who daily dine together in London . ?- 7 No. he is left at V eniet... _ _ _ Does h e live at Venice?—lle has a shop near St. Mark'::. 11ow cattle von here 'r!.--Colonel Brown sent me. What ;male ti.lttnel Brown send you ?—rol. Brown ordered the Colortimtry at Veil cc to send inc. 1 came because. 1 Wl4 obliged to come. 1 b:LIV Air. Horner, the British Consul at Ve nice. but nat..: sitoke to him ou the business. The re-examinaion was about to take place when the Lords rose, it bt.ittl: lite o'clock. WEDNESDAY, AUG. Prayers having been read and the Poll Called over Cettipiel were in at a quarter past ten o'clock. Several Italians were then examined and truss examiNed without any thing important transpis Mg, except that after batik;; sworn positively that nu) had never been s %anti. lied in England, the (Jiicen's Counsel extracted front theist that mane Gent/en:on had read over to theta Within a week, the depositions v. hich bad been drawn up for them by the Italian Commission, and had catechised tham on each 'hulk:liar pa t !!!--ii was also confessed that Majoeci had descsibril to elm of them at least the place of exami- Halite), Sc. Sc. (Me of these amiAbPe exotics had lived for a year wilt a Priest, since quitting the Princess' m elee, but did not know kis the next w iniess called was Lullisa DitillOat, of wheal the public have heard so much. She Were a hatlClSO'ne black Nulill hat, oruamented with feathers ; a muslin ruff, !Utility plaited a white silk handkerchief over her neck and bosom, and a black satia gown, vainlyked at the top, and profusely decorated with dointees at bottom. She is the smartest dressed of femme the eluniire, but neither Ike youngest nor Or prettiest. She seems to be about 31 yeas, of age—in complexion she is a bra .ctte—lier cheeks shrank mid oh; cited, and her eye more remarkable fur an expressional . emitting than of intellect. She advanced to the bar with a degree of confidence which even the tie. netrating glance of Mr. Brougham, who eyed her most persevetingly *. from top to tee," did not at all affect. Mr. Serie:tot Copley u ploceeding to eattUlitie the witness when Mr. Will . iants requested hint to stop a little, and addressed himself as follows to file witness: How lung hove you been in Eliot:old ?-1410 aintwer. Do you out uutierbt;:nd English?—:So answer. Do yen not undestand Euglish at all?- 7 ,isl,? answer some inamlitole expressions. Have you Lever talked Eriglish? The interpreter here explauseel to the Witness aunt the Counsel wished to know from her. Answer.—Very Have you not been its the habit of speaking Euglish ? The witness seeming again at a loss, the unto preter explained the question to her, and gave as her answer— ! cannot speak it, and I natio...land it very huh.. Mr. Serjeant Copley now proceeded with the examina tion in chief. Is a native of the l'ays de Vaud, iu Swit zerland, and in ieligion a Protestant. Entered into the service of the on:tosser ft mote de caanthre, at Lausanne. Went with the Poetess from Lausanne to Milan and thence to Naplt s. Remembers a person of the name of Bergaini well. Ile was enaagel in the Princess's service while at Remembers also a young persust of the Mint. of William Austin. He generally slept in the tone of her Royal Highness. Oa the night before enteting Naples, her Royal !helm( ss slept at a country house. Hid on that unlit a conversatiou with her Royal !lioness, in which the Prate. ss said, Austin was grown too big a boy to sleep in her room, and that it separate apartment :met be provided for him. Does not know whether Austin slept in the room of her Royal Highness on the night she sit pt at iii country-house before entering Naplea. Up to that period did Ilergami always dine with the s - ..rvants?—He dined always at one tittle. Da you know wiu,t room wits allotted to 13ergand on the first night after the art ival of the PI incoss mid suite at Naples r—l de not r einemeer is here it was. 1)o you reeolleci what mount wits allotted to Bergami on the second night alter )uur at livid ? —Yes, I do. Was the boil near the one occupied by the Princess? Yes, it was near it. Was there any communication between the two room: ; Yes, there was. Now %%lieu the door was closed, the door of the Prin cess's sewn closed, and the door of ite::;anti's room also ef.sed, could ally person have access to these rooms? — No. tht-re were tti.l/ those doors. Did I.er Royal Ilighnc-r, soon after her arrival et Naples, go to the Opera ?—lier Royal flightless told ate, when 1 Nati dress ing her, that she was going to etc Opera. Did she return earl or lute from ore Opera ?—lt seems to me the.; she returnee cony. %Vert: you in the bial.room when she returned ?—No, she sent for ore. NVhile you were in the chamber. what did the Prinees.s do ? Her Royal Bighnesa ettkaed the passage, and went tutu the cabin-t. Wane was Ile.rgami at the time ?—I not knw.i. After the Princess had gone into the cahinet, what oid she do! —I do not know what she aid, Lot s:a. retained into die chamber where 1 was. Did she say any thing to you ? aid she give you any tellers ? , she told meta forbid Wm. Austin going into her bial-rixml, fur she was going to ..leep, and wanted to sleep quietly. Where did William Austin sleep that night?—ln a small cabinet. f , Was it adjoining to that of the Priucess?—lt was near; there was a door of cOnni.uniCAtion. \% as that door open or saw it shut. In w..at state of her Royal I dress was it—v.ll , ll little dtth,hal or much dr:shed—that Ilt.rgand wa, in the dres•im. • rootu WZLi drehscd, rind soon:Much hot dresetl. Did he i r() in for a moment only, and corm out, or lie continued there ?--il e went in and out. no you remember ever seeing Ekrganii in the pa :sage at night ?—I do. Where wa. her Royal Highness at the time?--In her bed room. NVes she dres:,:st or undressed ?—Undressed. Where did you sae Dergunii?-1 .saw Mrgami come out of l.is own room. In what direction did lie go ?—IIe was going towards the bed. zoom of her Itoial What was the state. of Ilergaini'h dress?—lle was nut drcibtd at all. What 1,-.d he on his fee' ?—Slipper4; Any swkkingi raw no stycluns-,