The National Register. — London, England, 1817-05-12 00:00:00

Ai AY 12. Sir S. Itontt.t.v then ITIOVeII. that the Petition be printed. He emill not conceive, tli,tt it WWI an an.vver to this Petition to he twit, the petitioner might briutf his action aeitinq the committing Alogi•trote, when it turned null that there really was n•t elt•trt;c hint. of the peti tioner as ro !•'t.iHtette of seditious Nivetin"2.s, elicited tinge observation hum the Sheritt . substitole, "'list denial looked 11111111 like guilt." The pt (Ilion %v.v. ordered to be printed. THE REV. THOMAS THIRLIVALL. Mr. Ilen N ETT moved the Order of the 1).1y fur calling in the Rev. T. Oa ipiestiun being pot, Mr. 8. BATHURST whaled to know to wli•at extent thin proceeding would go, hefore the R e v. fivilliounti was ral.ed in. The sPEttecErt re Minted the !tight Hon. Cont. that the most deeornes sse of proceeding would he, to herr %that the R e v. Out. had to say, rod then the whole matter would be berme them. Mr. C Wv Ne was of the same opinion, and said. he had seen in the public Press, attacks on the Hone and its Com mittees, the :maims of which Le much regretted, had not been bronght before the house for painisliment. Unless Air. Thirtwall nas ealieil to the liar. the priS iieze. of the House would be inflinged ; and they noun( arknon :edge the truth of the libel. _ After tt fnrt'•cr conversation on the Sallie subject, Mr. Thirtwall was then called in. SYEAJLER then informed hint that the Howe hail heard the Report read of a publication written by hint, reflecting' upon the conduct of one of its C ))))) minces. Clerk would read the passage in the puißication. and the House would then hear what he had to offer to his defence. The clerk then read the publication. Toe SIMAKKR 11101 said—" The House will now hear what you have to otter iu excuse fur the passage complained of in this patilication." Mr. fhiriwall addressing the House regretted that he ahoni.l have trespass. d on its privileges, and Minuted its chspleasure. The sole intention in publishing the passages complamed of', was to vinlicate the character of the Magis trates. 41U1 bas tittn ak.., from the obloquy cast on them by witnesses, necessarily eau iiined before the C ))))) ;Mime. It . in this he had erred, he was trill!, sorry, and regret( al lie should have dens so ; and he bowed sincerely to the decision of the House, and to the Committee, busting that its ciemencv would be extended towards ; and that the sentence insight be such, as not to degrade his character as u Magis trate and Clergyman. He was then ordered to withdraw. Mr. BcsNETT then iII.WV4 a resolution, expressing the sense of the House, that air. Thiel wall, in publishing the hook in question, had reflected out the proceedings and au ho• city of the House, and had oven guilty of a high contempt of its privileges. Lord Ctistuneann thought the atten'ina of the House having been called to the publication in question, could not atop strut of decl srina it a breach of the .irivileg,c of Parlia ment. He was of °Mini n the House could nut pass over the question till the Rev. Gentleman had been called in, and that opinion of the House intimated to him from the Chair. Mr. W. W YNNE thought the Rev. Gentleman had made a sufficient apologs . Next to not committing an offence a 'zitinst the House ht all, roust be placed the candid, manly, and hu• 00111 - 41 hie apology n hich he had made. • Mr. Bitneonast declared. bad it not bi en for the Rev. Gentleman's coed net before the Committee, he should not have thought the publication one which the House could notice. Mr. RENNET - es Resolution was then rend, and agreed to. Mr. BENNETT said, he was now at a loss how to pi occe4, as he did not understand that the Rev. Gentleman was at present considered as in custody. The SPFAKER suggested, that the proper mode to be adopted would be, to move that the Rev. Gentleman should be called in ; and that Mr. Speaker should communicate the Resolution of the House to him. This suggestion was adopted, and the Rev. Mr. Thiriwall again called in. flit Se al tint addressed him in the following effect : " I am Collllll3lldmi by the House to acquaint you, that the House has taken into (-onside' ation the matter of complaint against you and your apology ; and lam farther commanded to inform you that the House has come to the Resolution, that in this publication you have been guilty of a breach of the Privileges of this House ; lint in consequence of the Intl and ample apology which you have this day made, the House are content to pi tweed no further; and you may withdraw." The Rev. Gent. accordingly made his bow and retired. A tow Writ was then ordered for Eyre, in the noun of Sir W. barrow, appointed one of the Barons of the Eschequei. ALIEN STOCKHOLDERS. Mr. Gn excELL, in pursuance of the notice given by him on a former tidy, brought forward his Motion for a Return of the number of Aliens residing abroad, having money in our Funds. The Hon. Gent. said, it sons no satisfaction to the public to know, that in consequence of the Book being allowed to make these enorralillS profits of the public, a cur trio Noble Lord, on the ..:3d of April last, seceived as a bonny from the Bank, no less than 70,0001. He was convinced, if all the retrenchments possible were adopted, savings to the amount of 4011,11001. per annum might be made to the public. He moved I,:r a t eturn of the number of proprietors of Bank Stock, on the 31st of March. Mr. VANSITTAUT did not think it prudent that the House should call for such an account. It could has e no other rtiret than to create alarm in lie MIMI% of foreigners, and induce them to WillidraW their capital. The motion, if' agreed to, could not present aliens, even if it was desirable, Rout holding stock of any kind. As to the profits ofthe Bank, touched upon by the Hon. Gent. he would nut go into that -subject ; it had no counectimi with the present motion. Mr. PossoNav said, lie had sees so much good result from the labours of his Hon. Friend, that he was persuaded he had some good object ins view in milking this motion. The Chan cellor of the Exchequer said, ands a motion as this %sould Rive alarm to foreigners, by exposing their property. What exposure could there be? Ht• lion. Friend roily asked for numbers, not for names ; and he would ask, what alarm could be excited by a return which stated, that 50 foieigners had 600,0001. in one funds. Sir J. NEW POUT al•n supported the motion, he said, hi: Hou. Friend, by his motions and persevering; indmai y and exertion., had saved m o re for site public than all the Finance Committees put together. Mr. MANNINO I/pi/OM:41 the motion. Mr. GuEssimi. replied, and said, he could state. that one tenth of the proprietors were foreigners ; and they had, *Rhin the last 20 years, received their proportion of bons, the eIIUIMOUS profit which the Bank bad abated within that period. THE NATIONAL REGISTER:• After a few words from Mr. MARKIITT, the motion wa• negativtd. POLLS AT ELECTIONS. Mr. W. ll'vttivr, pursuant to his notice to that effect, brought forward hie motion for leave to bring in a Bill for r golaiiiig. the Duration of Polls at Elections. One of the °posed provisions of his Bill would be, that if a certain 1111111 lier were not polled in the second day, the Pall should ruse. The 110:I. Gent. proceeded to state scveral.o►her of his proposed regulations, and concluded by moving for the appointment of a Committee to enquire into the best mode of shortening the Duration of Pulls at Elections. Agreed to. MARY RYAN, ALIAS BROWN. Sir J. MACKINT(I•II then rose to call the attention of the House to the case of Petrick Ryan, alias Brown, who was found guilty of a highway robbery a few Sessions ago, and was on Friday last executed pursuant to his sentence. It appeared, that between the time of his sentenre and eseen tion, an attempt had been male to obtain him his liberty, and his wile was concerned in the attempt. This unfortunate woman was detected and committed for trial for the offence ; and, strange to say, was, on the day on which her lanshand was executed, put upon her trial ; and in that state of mind called on for her defence, and convicted. it was this inhu manity whit•h he now complained of, and of which he asked an explanation ; and till he heard that explanation he should consider it as an in-tanee of the greatest cruelty which ever disgraced a Com t t.fJustice. The Hon. Gent. then proceeded to condemn the steps taken against this unfortunate woman altogether, she had been punished for a display of her affec tion towards her husband. Who was there that bad not read in history, and admired the con hu •t of Lady Southesk ; who when her husband had been condemned, and was under sen tence of death, at the risk of her well lift• sought his lawn* tint) and should that display of affection, which was so much admired in the Lady of rank, be condemned and pu nished in Ibis humble individual. Ihe Hon. Gent. said, he was aware that he might be told all this was rendered neces sary by the rules of law, the last day of the Sessions having arrived. To this he woad answer, that the Law Officer of the Crown had the power of suspending the trial; and he knew an much of the humane disposition of the Hon. Gent. who had lately held the otii"e of Attorney General, that he was convinced that Hon. Gent. would have been anxious to exercise. his power. He contended, that this unfortunate woman was flat tried, shire her state of mind was such as to render her entirely incapaole of making any defence. The Hen. Gent. after -mar further Wiservati.ns, moved for copies °rale sentences of P. Ryan and Mary Ryan, and the dates of their convictions. . _ Mr. 11. ADDIDGTON, in explanation of this transaction, stated, that the trial of Mary Rvan took place in ignorance of the circnm•tauee which had taken place iii the morning, and out of humanity towarits the pt km:er; if she had not been tried that day, she must have remained in prison three months; and, indeed, though apparently the circumstance of her being brought to trial on that day was utifortimate to her yet ultim itchy it proved fortunate to her, as the Seen tary of !state, on 'searing the circumatatice of her case, repres.!nted it to the 1), ince Regent, anti she was, in con.squence, par doned. Mr. Ald ATKINS entered iota a defence of the Court, he retic whit h this unfortunate woman was convicted ; who he said has every wish, had they posses.sed the power, to have postponed her trial, but she did not appear to nester it should be (Hayed. When the question was put to the jury, of (lenity or not Godly, hopes were entertained they would have acepitted her. But such was the evidence, they were forced to convict. After her conviction. however, she was treated with the greatest attention and kindness; and direc tions were given that she should have every comfort which her situation admitted of. The Worthy Alderman said, he never was present at a more affecting scene; no one was pre sent, who did not feel for her, and had it been possible, the Court would have given her permission to attend and so lemnize those rights which the custom of her country engaged in previous to the funeral of her nnfortnnate hush:land. They found, however, that tin it power did not allow them to grant her that indulgence. Sir `5. ROMILLY did not cossider that the least blame could he attached to Government tor this occasion. or to the Attor ney General,or to the Court who tried this poor woman; but he did complain of the prosecutors of this poor woman, who ought not to have been prosecuted at all. Sir J. M 4CIItINITOCH replied, mid again contended, that this proseention which he designated it, odious, immoral, anti de testable, as being instituted against a wife for her affection • to her husband, ought never to have been instituted. He contended that the Magistrates %•• ho presided at the trial ought to have suggested to the prosecntor that he ought to call no witness. She ought to have been acquitted instantly. The lenity of sentence was no extenuation. 'Flue trial, the plac ing this unhappy woman, with her infant orphan child in her arms, at the bar of justice, within a few hours after the death of her hoshand, whilst his corpse was yet warm, was the pu nishment—was the refinement of barbarity. With respect to withdrawing this motion, he did not think he could withdraw it. He considered it necessary that the House 5114)111(1 come to a vote upon the question, to mark its regret at this melan choly occurrence, and to convey a lesson to Magistrates in future. LOld C 4STLFRE %GU felt himself fully convinced by the arguments of the Hon. Gent., and therefore should give his support to the mot ion.—llekr, hear. The motion was the n agt eed to. N XVI' BILLS. Mr. VA NvITTART sind, the interest of the Navy Bills, was at twesent fixed at 41 per cent and it was his intention to propose that they should be issued in Amite at three months, without any interest at all. This would produce a Very con siderable saving indeed. Front Isla, that !rart of our tili. fowled debt had decreased front three nuilions to 600,11001. He then moved for leave to bring in a bill to regulate the interest on Navy Itilh.—Leave given. Adjoin uetl at tack e o'clock. •THURSDAY, MAY S. Mr. Serjeant On.low bronzlit in a Bill to repeal the Laws prohibiting taking: More iil.lll 5 pet cent. iutioc.t oi l M otl ey. Ordered to be lead a seem' time tomorrow sclinight. srE,tm Mr. ilAnvey, pursuant to his notice, moved for the ap. pointinent of a I :wolaittre to enquire into the en utimstances connected with the explosion of a meant-boat at NOl'Wleh, on the morning of Good Vritl.ty last. lie was persuaded that the noise would consider tint. a snblect lvorthy belog enquired into when they were informed that no Its, than ten lit•uson , lust their lives by this melancholy accident ; which arose, as he had ince ilifuniscii,eutirely Irons the Inuit) constructive ‘I r. • - the apparatus, the boiler having been CUIINti nvi.• I L . iron, lir:lead of wrought iron; and, therefore, lint possessing strength sufficient to resist the power of the steam. Mr. %V. Small ob.erved, that the accident in question had originated in the negligence of the engineer, and the over charging of the safety-valve ; the intention in moving for this Committee was to enquire, whether it was not possible so to construct boilers, that even if they should explode no danger might happen to the pas , miger. Mr. TitomesoNl, of hull, Bras most friendly to the appoilit... meat of the Committee. The Committee was appointed. Sir F. Butt ne.vt - wished to call the attention of the Hon. and Learned Judge Advocate to a paragraph contained in 11 Paper, which be held in his habil, called" The Carlisle Jour wiii, h it team stated, that another melancholy it:stance of the impolicy of military corporal punishment had recently occurre.: in that iwigithottrhood, w here a private of the 13th Light Dragoons has iu mat lied without the consent of his Officers, had been sentenced to be dogged ; and to avoid the indiction of the second p..rt (tribe punishment, hail committed Fnirirle. What lie now wished to ask the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was, w bother he did not, when this subject wa.; last tinder discussion, state explicitly, ulna in his opinion tho briog:tig our a man a seemtil time for punishment was illegal. Mr. M. St; rrov said, if the Hon. litatotiet had no other in' formation exci•pt what lie derived front that Newspaper, he must beg leas e to express his doubts of the aecitrasy of the statement. He begged the Hon. Baronet would, however. Five Win the names of party and regiment, and he woidd make • diate enquiries. Sir F BURDETT said, the regiment mentioned was the 131 h. Light Dragoons, but no name was meutioned. Mr. H. Davis presented a Petition from Bristol, proving some measure might be adopted to regulate and reform ilie present system of Extents in Aid. The Hon. Gent. now wished to ask the Chancellor of the Excheqncr, whir is he in. tended to bring forward his promised motion oti this subject. Mr. VA 55111 . %UT Said. he should bring forward a proposi tion on the subject as soon as possible an arrangement could be made with the Bat ons of the Exchequer. Mr. W. -alri n said, if the Bight Hon. Gentleman did not bring in his Bill at a verb early period, he should be obliged to bring in a Bill on the subject. Mr. LOCKHART also expressed his surprise that the Chan cellor of the Exchequer had not yet brought in any Bill on the subject. Extents In Aid were productive of great disress in many instances. He knew one instance in Berkshire, in which one Extent from the Crown, and two Extents in Aid, ,wept away 20,0J01. and I ft other creditors trot a tai thing. MR. HERRIEs'S ‘PPOINTMENT. Mr. BENNETT row to bring forward his motion OR the subject ()ride. ilerri.s's late appointment to a sitneion on the Civil List. Mr. Bennett proceeded to take a review of Mr. Herries's public life, and to enumerate his several pill is ap. pointments. Mr. Herries was first appointed to a p o l i tic situation in 1798, when he was appointed to a situation in the Treasnt y. He was afterwards appointed Sect etary to the Chancellor .1 the Exchequer; afterwards Commissaiy Gene ral and Comptroller of Accounts ; and to these he had various other situations anti emoluments added The Honourable Gentleman then proceeded to enumerate the services of Mr. Herries, which amounted to five years service in the Treasury, and thirteen years attendance on the Chancellor of the Ex. chequer as Secretary, and Gtr these arduous and laborious services, he was rewarded with an income of 27001. a year, for doing what any man would do for a salary of 3001. a year. He concluded by moving a Resolution declaring that the House considered the allowing Mr. Henries to retire with the half of his salary of 27091. a year, and allowing him afterwards to take an office of ISO. a year, was an improviiknt waste of the ;white money. Mr, VA NIIITTART was fully persuaded, that when the House had heard what he had to urge, they would think what had been done for Mr. Herries was merely justice : Mr. Herriaa was first appointed Secretary to him, (Nlr. V.) wheel a bird of the Treasury ; and afterward. he was appointed private Se cretary to Mr. Perceval, a place of great trust, and such as had invariably led to great preferment. In 180.9, Mr. Her ries was appointed a Comptroller of Army Accounts, with a salary of 15001. for life; this certainly he gave up ; and is Ist I, succeeded Colonel Gordon as Commissary General. In this situation be continued till 1816, when an arrangement was made in the Commissariat, by which a stun of 11,000 was saved annually to the Public. He (Mr. V.) had trusted Mr. Herries with millions attne public money, and those millions had been faithfully applied ; but in future he should doubt much whether he ought to do so, if the reward of public ser vices so important, was to be poverty and neglect. The pro vision which he had made for Mr. Herries he had made con scientiously, and he though, it was not greater than that Gen tleman's services deserved. Mr. Ti K EY had nu personal motives towards Mr. [lorries, but was as ready as the Chancellor of the Exchequer could be acknowledgeto his personal services ; but, allowing them to their fillies' extent, the question was, had he not been more than paid by this appointment of 27001 a year 2 If the motion was negatived, blame rested on the ilonse, and he hoped to God, the country would recollect it, when occasion uttered ; for a more extravagant expenditure of the public money never was exhibited. Lord CASTLEREAGH spoke at considerable length against the motion. Mr. :'ossositty thought the House was bound to say that thi s was an itsilitoper application of the public motley. Mr. It k.N 7.4 TT replied. and contended, that as dlr. Ilerrira admitted sense the Committee he held the ()thee on the same term , :IN him predecessor, Sir James Kennedy, namely, that of a War Officer, he was entitled to the bailie compensation only as his predecessor. The House then divided—Ayes, ..1t —Noes, 93.—Majority against the motion, .1. TY't FIES. (10 the motion for going into a Committee on the Tythe Leasing Bill, Lord ERG Na GTOR t% as aware 1.11 hv odium attach ing to the intt rferi ore ut P.arlianient in rcsin et In'hathes, ntieeting the rights of the C•lergy : he hoped that when the wasn't: %% as fillty aoni• into. it would reci•tv c the support of Gentlemen on the other side of the Howe. Sir W. Scorr made some 01/SIVEV4IIOII, which it was impossi ble to heir limn the indistinct manner in which lie 'poke ; but lie moved an instruction to the Committee to exteuil the pro visions of the Bill to lea,•iuc of laud also, annexed to sunll !Iv. ings tinder Queen Anne's Bounty M r . moved all instruction in respect to the pay ment of Tyllies on late crops, with a view to facilitate a com position, in order that it should nut be avoided during the current year.—Agreed to. It was then proposed to extend the pro% isions of the Bill to Glebe Lands.— Agreed to. sir W. Sco was not friendly to the *iteration of any mea sure which went to tautest the •ucisut laad•tustks et the