The National Register. — London, England, 1822-05-13 00:00:00

Mr. HOME moved fur returns of agents appointed at Ce%lon, Msaritins Cape of Good Hope, Malta, &c. since IStiO; their emoluments, duties, expenee of establish eu. nts, and whether holding any other appointments, iitc. ...Ordered. Sir F. BURDETT moved for a copy o: the surgeon's report respecting liehester gaol.—Ordered. Mr. P. ()RESPELL wished to !corn whe'lier there would be any objection to produce the correspondence between the Government and the Wink, respecting the renewal of the Bank Charter t and when it might be ex. peeled that such subject would be mentioned to the house. Lord LONDONDERRY said, hn wished those roes. times had been put when the Chancellor of the Escherpier was in the house; the right hon. gent. was now absent, and he (Lord L.) could not give any distinct answer. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS REPORT. Lord LONDONDERRY moved, that the house go into a co 11111 l Mee to take into further consideration the Agri cultnrai Distress Report. Mr. ELLICE opposed the motion, that the Speaker do leave the chair, fur the resolutions that had been proposed were such a serifs of nostrums, as oat to merit the deli berate attention of the house. Mr. BROUGHAM wished that this resistance should be withdrawn. There were various propositions to be con. sidered in the committee, some of them extraordinary enough. The distresses of agriculture were acknow ledged, and were severe; and surely these were ample reasons for losing no opportunity to dismiss the question, to s•certain whether relief could be afforded in any one of the ways proposed, or whether, in fact, any relief at all could be granted. Mr. ELLICE having withdrawn his opposition, the Louse went into the committee. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY then rose, and pro ceeded to submit his first proposition, namely, to grant 1,000,0001. to be laid out in corn to be warehoused, thus to relieve the farmer, and lecture him against the losses of being compelled to go into the market when it was low.— His lordship supported his proposition with an illustration of lie above argument and object. Much loss haul re sulted to the agricultural interests from being compelled to collie into the market when it was necessarily depressed from the abundant supply of ecru ; and others had no chance of coming into the market—except such relief as was now proposed was afforded—without great and ruinous losses. His lordship therefore trusted that the committee world see the advantage that was likely to be produced by adopting that resolution. It would afford considerable 'chef, and relief too of the most valuable kind, because it would he immediate. His lordship con cluded by moving, "'fiat it is the opinion of this com mittee, that his Majesty be enabled to direct Exchequer bills, to an amount not exceeding 1,00,40001.. to be issued to commissioners of Great Britain, to !re by them ad vanced, under certain regulations and reattictions, when ever the average price of wheat shall be under tiOs. per quarter, upon each corn, the growth of the United King dom, as shall be deposited in tit and proper warehouses." A discussion of some length followed, in which several members took a part. Mr. BROUGHAM opposed time measure. He was willing to admit that measures similar to this had been adopted for the relief of certain manufacturing classes; but in the present case he was convinced it could do no good. It we proposed to advance money, riot to that/-• who most wanted it, those who had no corn, but who had corn still left to sell. This would be still further to dis tress those already overwhelmed, as it would have the effect of advancing prices in the market, when those indi viduals wattled to come in as purchasers for food for their labourers and families, and seed for their land, Pits. HUSK IS iON said he had opposed this mrawre when proposed in the committee, and would oppose it now. After suer• further observations from other members, Lord LON DON DERRY oksersed, the propusitiou was not hiss he had only brought it forward ut the request of others, arid would now, with the leave of the House, with draw it.—(Hear.)—The resolution was accordingly with drawn. Lord LONDONDERRY said, he would bring forward bus second resolution to-morrow. Mr. BROUGHAM advised the noble Lord to let. the se emul resolution follow the first. Lord LONDONDERRY could not agree to this propo sition. The first resolution he had felt Ito interest au, but the second was that which eruhruced the main question, and he wished it it/ be fully discussed. It was then filed that the discussion on the second reso lution should be brought forward to-morrow. The other Orders were dispus..cl •f, rid the House ads jourcied at elesen o'clo, k. TVLSDAY, JUT fr. Mr. BRIGHT preheated a petition from Bristol, prnying the noose would adopt measures to mitigate the severity of the criminal code. The Marquis of CHAN DOS presented a petition from the farmer, in the its ighilolll hood of Aylesbury, complaining of agricultural dihttCO, and praying that the House would nut adopt the revolutions of Mr. Ricardo. Mr. HUG DA LE prevented a petition from drys:Otero and bacon curets of Bitinengbasn, plaiiiing of the inequality of duties between them and the bacon curers of Ireland ; the Printer had to pay 301. duty, where the latter paid only 41. Ordered to be printed. Mr. S. RICE presented a petition from the separatists of Limesar k, pray Mg that alio Witness similar to thine extended the Quakers would lie granted to them. Mr. F. !BUXTON bole testimony of the respectability of the petitioners. A similar petition was presented from the separatists of Looduo.—Severally ordered to he printed. Mr. 11U MIL complained of the non .returns of newspaper ndheriisi matt accounts that lord pleviuutly been ordered.— /le said that the Governineat w ere in the habit of making the most shameful use of the press. To those papers which held an extensive eirculutioo they did not send advertise. areuht but those o. Imrted circulation—to promote their own political views—they sent their adveritheineuth„ some. lanes at great espence. Amongst vttrioos inhtalices of abuse, he them Mired that in one paper proclamations had heen continued (or three yews after the object of them had ceased.—(shear, hear.)—lle also adverted to the complete exclusion of Government advt., ti•erment front the New IWO 5, on account of the political condor* they had put-hoed, not. their great circulation —Accounts oidered. Mi. (HET W I presented the report of the vagrant Loh coosolidation bill. There were Wilily It ineioloolits, and he hoer& Ilist in its iste•ent furor, it would be found to be usetul.-14cwort ordered to be further considered on Muuday twat. THE NATIONAL REGISTER Sir K. WILSON mimed, hiausalf tatinued with the amendments. The bill, Its Rowdier!. ordered to be printed. Mr. P. GB EN FELL. in the ithaence of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, vk idled to know whether there would be coy nhjection to produce the correlonolence between the Bank a n d the Government remedial the renew:Al of the Bank Charter? Mr. 1.1.18111 NGTON wished flint the que,tian should be post; d till the Chancellor of the Est Arguer nap present. NA•AI. AND MILITARY PRN , IONII.--:111% IIUME said, he hail in vain looked into the accounts to totes lain how the five mill' dead weight charge for pensitans was •ade up; he therefore moved for returns of pensions, Ibilf-pay.&c. cons) it idiot the five millions charge, for which the Chancellor of the Bseliegaer's 'dim purported to providr.—Ordered. Mr. LUSH I NCITOIVI introduced the spoiled Stamps' Bill. --Itead n first time. M►. HUME asktd when the returns respecting public de faulters mint hr expected ? Mr. LUsHINOTON said. many of the accounts had been drnwn from different and distant depArtiaients ; but many of them were ready. Mr. MARTIN obtained leave to bring in a bill to prevent the ill-treatment of mute. Mr. HUME asked when the Superannuation Bill was likely to he discussed / Mr. LUSH INGTON replied, that it bad stood on the orders nine or ten dillareot days, and that other matters had prevented it from being brought forward. Mr. U. RENNET remarked that when public money was required there was generally found tine to mention it to the House.aud liedid out tee why this bill might nut be discussed in the rominittee of sapply. Mr. WELLS presented a petition from occupiers in Kent, complaining of agricultural distress. Mr. P. GRENFELL moved for returns of the different re new als or extensions of the Bank Charier since 141.2. fir said he moor d for this account to •hew that there had been but one histamine., that of 1810, when It was proposed to renew the charter eleven years before its expiration. Ile considered the Bank " monopoly"—the noble Nlorquis had called it a monopoly—to be most mischievous; and he should take every opportunity to resist its renewal. Ile should like to know why the untioopoly was to be enjoyed for the limit within a/ miles of London. if the monopoly were preju dicial at the distance of 85 miles, was it not equally injurious nearer the metropolis. He cuocluded with moviug fur the return. Mr. LUSHINGTON had no objection to the 'notion, which merely regarded a matter of tact. Account ordered. Mr. HUSIE moved for retnrns of consular fees, the authority by which they were ordered, /se. ; fora return of the consuls' duration of residence, absence, rc. He adverted to the conduct of Mr. Chamberlain, our consul at the Brazils. Out of 75 English merchants resident there, 72 had complained against his conduct. His re ceipts for tone putt, within seven years, were 35,0001. exclusive of his receipts out of the civil list. Mr. Cham berlain cost this country between 4 and 5,0001. a year. Were not these extravagant expences? He was sure that the subject merited inquiry, and called for revision. The charges ought to he greatly reduced—at least a half, if not two-thirds. The interests of British shipping required such reductions. Sir R. WILSON said, that the Brasil. was a cheap place to live in. Lord LONDONDERRY replied, that Mr. Chamberlain had stakd the ipsartern loaf to be 3.. 104 d.—poultry and wine very high. Mr. HUME .aid, the noble lord had only read part of Mr. C's correspondence; his lorthilip should have gone further, and then the house might have had a different view of the mutter.—Motion agreed to. Lott! A. HAMILTON presented a petition from owners and occupiers of land in Lanarkshire, complaining of agricultural distress. Mr. MAXWELL said, there was no hope of relief, ex cept from a reduction of taxes.—Petition ordered to he preuted. AGRICULTURAL RESOLUTIONS. Lord LONDONDERRY moved, that the house go into • zonunittee on the further consideration of the agricultu• ral resolutions. Atter some conversation, the house went into the com mittee. Lord LONDONDERRY theta brought forward his resolutions containing the scale of prutecliug ur import duties, as previously detailed in the papers. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE followed, bringing forward his scheme of protecting ditties, purposing to tix the scale at 3.is Sir F. BURDETT strongly condemned the plan of the member for Somersetshire, as calculated to increase the distress of the country, and he also objected to the noble lord's plan, as not at all calculated to relieve the country. The lion. bast. imputed the present distress to the altera tion in the currency, to taxation, and to non-importation. lie was cons inced there ought to be no prohibitory dit ties ; that there ought to be tree importation, and that by such a course the country would again become !mispri nt's, and the landlord get that which he contended it was necessary he should have for the good of all elastics high rents. He seecongly urged reduction of expenditure and economy as the only means of tidies mg the cottony. A long debate followed, and the discussion was ad journed at one o'clock. WEDNESDAY. ■AY S. Mr. P. GRENFELL asked, for the third time, when the house might expect the correspondence between the Government and the Bank, respecting the renewal of the Bank charter. like received no batualactury answer, lie should move that the papers be produced forthwith. Mr. LUSHINGTON could only repeat the answer that he had given before, that it would he better to wait till the Chancellor of the Exchequer w 54 present. Mr. GRENFELL moved, that the correspondence be laid before the house tot thwiai. Mr. BROUGHAM supported the 1115i105, as lie thought it was not bleating the house respectfully to withhold the pepsin. Sir J. NEWPORT was of a similar opinion. Mr. LLISHINGTON opposed the motion. becanse be thought it was not 'hewing the usual courtesy to the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. CiREN FELL said, he should press his motion. The gallery was partly cleared tin a division, but the opposition being withdrawn, the 150 i ISIII was ISKIS•eth and the correspondence ordered to be pi esented foe thw itlf. Sir M. W. RIDLEY gave notice, that when the Nast. gat" Laws Repeal bill wits biungtit rut 5..111.1, 511111 . 5 a clause fur the repeal ut tue one shifting tonnage ou 147 ships ontward and homeward bound; hr meant the tor. nage dimly g Ily.—(Hear, hear.) Sir R. HERON, in consequence of the pressure of bnsineas, and as a Poor Bill was already before the house, postponed till next session his motion regarding the law of seitlemunt of the poor. GOVF.FINIIIENT ADVERTISEMENT% —Mr. HUME com plained of en:al-milts that appeared in the Adorning CAro. nide, on the subject of his motion for retie, 11 , 4 of the eapeuce of public departments for ailvertisentente, as that paper charged him with wishing to interfere with the private concerns of newspapers. He had no such desire —the imputation was fake; all he desired to know was, the way in which the public money was laid out fur Go vernment advertisement. Having so far set himself right with the house and the country, he had no further com plaint to make ; he considered that a public man way species of public property ; and all he desired was, that the troth al s Id be spoken. The Stamp Ditties Relief hill was read a second time. and ordered to be committed to-morrow, after Sir M. W. Ridley had expressed a hope that there would be some relief regarding ships' debentures uuder particular cir camstanore. Mr. LOCKHART aske.l whether there was to be any alteration on time ad radars= duty on mot (gages. Mr. LUSHINGTON replied, that there was a bill on the sub)jject. Mr. LESHINGTON then moved, that the house go into a enthral lire on the Stamp Ditties Art. Mr. BRIGHT wished to know whether there was to be any alterations in time commercial stam;bs f Mr. LUSHINGTON said, the proposed bill would ope rate a great relief to trade. The resolutions Ire expected to have printed. Mr. HUME asked whether there was to be say altera tion in time agency charges for distributing stamps ? Mr. LUSHING CON replied, that he had no Jimmie lions on that subject. He added, that his first resolutints was respecting policies. Resolutions agreed to—report to-morrow. Mr. G. BENNET gave notice, that he should, on Pd. day next, move fur leave to bring in a bill to alter and amend the present slate of licensing public houses. Mr. LEN N ARD postponed till Thursday, 20th install, his motion, which lie hail already postponed once, res pecting the repeal of the Seditious Meetings bill. He hoped nothing would occur to prevent him from Winging; forward his motion on that day. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS RESOLUTIONS. Lord LONDONDERRY moved, that the house go into a committee on the agricultural distress resolutions. Mr. WYVILL opposed the motion. 'He could not eon sent that time country should any longer be deluded ; deo resoNitions would be useless. If they were paroled, they could not last six months. There were but two modes of relief, either to repeal Mr. Peel's bill, or a large remission of the taxes- He could not allow that the delusion of the resolutions should be carried farther, without the sense of Site house being taken on the subject. He 01/ d, that there was no chance of relieving the country, except there was a =eduction of taxation to the amount of st) millions at least. He therefore moved, as an amendment s that the ouly effectual relict of agricultute was " a largo remission of taxation.' Mr. LOCKHART said, lie could not consent that lbe interests of agriculture al Id be blended with question* with which they %vete not entirely connected. It the Norfolk decision regarding poor rates, and the liability of the clergy, were correct, then were the great interests of the venerable body of the church gone. It was true un doubtedly in law, but if it continued, then, he repeated. the interests of the venerable body of clergy had been most seriously affected. As to the remission of taxes, if such a reduction as had beeps proposed were to take place. the interest of the debt could not continue to be paid; and he undertook to say, that the agriculturists had ha no instance called for any thing that would asefert the conti nued payment of the juiciest of the debt. (Hear, hear.) —As to the reduction of taxstion, that would nut effect the desired relief; indeed the noble lord's resolutions chiefly pioceciled on that principle. lie then proceeded to defend lire &rheum of protecting import duties—the price of corn, with the duly, ought to he regulated by the p 8 ices at Willett , . Supposing the ditty was 13s. it could be imported thence at li7s. How then was the English grows rto compete with the foreign grower s Besides, the noble lord's resolution declared that the English grower could not grow corn at a less rate than ;Us. Ili quarter. What the funnels winded was, not high prices, bin pro tecting duties ; tin y did not want to be compelled is sea a; is loss, Ile begged to add, that the ilurners had uo connection with the wild and bi•eonary schemes fur a ra don:titan of taxation; they desired to support the public faith, and were anxious to suppot t the Government Si the country. Lord ALTHORPE said, that every vote he had given this session was in favour of a seduction of taxation, best still he wished the Committee to worried. lie thought the corn laws were so bad, that he was therefore desitowl that the COMMiI ice should 'trotted. Lord LONDONDERRY said, if the amendment were tarried, it most be considered like saying, that there ought to be a repeal of totes to the amount of 2 Mr. BROUGHAM declared, that it would be only stating, that in all they should hereafter do, it would be rentie.iie to keep in view A large reduction of taxes. Sir. WY VILL said, lie had heard nothing that could induce him to withdraw his motion; he more thou ever saw the necessity of pressing it. 1%18.111:ALMON I' and Mr. CLRIV EN expressed them selves in favour of the amendment. because they telt convinced that whatever plans were determined on with out a reduction, a large reduction of taxes, these was uo Chance of the country being rescued from its difficulties. The house then dr.iled. 'floe numbers were---Far the amenelment, 37—Against it, lilt—Majority, bj• 'f lie 111111%e then went into a committee. Mr. BANK F.S, at considerably len:Ili, denied that the (listless of the country originated ehtirely in 1.4%460n—it was caused by a vat arty of citenonstaitces. He contour. verted the olocttior, that the cultivator of land, if he could not obtain a rellittilelAting price, might wit h draw his capital, aiiil employ it otherwise. This was Our in hill power, and therefore parliament Were bound to mullet their as lei Si possible. . -- Mr. 11USKISSON defended the report of laat resttion, which he aanl wis lottuarti oil the lone paltry ut the plea and tinder that imptertoon he had relaaitred hunt attending the committee of the purest setation. lie had 11 upubwd hula resolutsour, otitis a view to olivotog hu osu (Fo► ron:inucatou me pip M.