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rP • 1 . I . o .1 Li (t){1111 ll 8 " t ; 122 u.nent. OF' LORDS. IiNOMUI.• 1$ a r ipiltrt tiousi -, =••••...11 MONDAY, APRIL it. The house meet at duce tictuck, and the rum below the bar was soon cio.ely occiyied by strangers, anxious to kcal the ratement of the Earl ut Livutputil on the subject uf the French e vasion of Spain. The Lords mule a numerous attendance. The Earl of Sit A ESOI.I lt Y eresaued a petition from D.alley, in Worceaershire, against the insolvent Debtors' Act; also a 'menu.° horn the %iayor and Burgesses of Reverley, against die human Catholic Claims. The Grant in Aide Bill and the Innkeepers Rill were read the second tune. Lord HOLLAND presented a petition from the Rev. Dr. lli'hmuse, calling the attention of me liOttle to tie intaipacity of reciesiasticel I.ersons w hold lay udices.— The petition was seed, net laid on the titbit. FRENCH INVASION OF SPAIN. The Fail of LIVERPOOL entered the home! about &en o'clock, beating a red box containing the negociations oat the subject of the war between Fuusce and Spain. Toe noble earl, bOiIIC time after, rose on the order of the day, and commenced hie speech by styitmg.--•• In obedience , bas Majeety'r coal mines, I rise to lay . tit the mine ui this AMU{ certain lepers relative to the neguiciamone which proceeded between this coaittry • and others en the disputes of Pratte and Spain."—it would be been that Govermaeut did no: stand in the situation of Ministers after a declaration of war, is which it had been customary to state not only the outline of toots, but enter into argument on their policyand concuct. The noble earl then adverted to the Spanish Constitution in late , winch was recognised in [Bl9. i ' here was no interferened on the part of the Powers of Europe on that occasion; on the contrirypall were desirous to promote eciocikation with Spain. The Comettution, to which Ferdinand the Seventh gave his solemn sanction. went en - without inter lettuce on We part of any Power. and in whatever view the album of Spain were consanred,tbe conclualon must be, that the Government* of Europe had colt wacted to the recorattun of that Government, which tae solemn act of Feedinatiel the Seventh had sanctioned. There ROC,' had beam my occ.ir:on in which the country had for an instant admitted the right of foreign . interference with the internist of Spain. lu subsequent negociatiens his Majesty's Government required answers to three qui:sums—Vint. if France made war, would the other high Powers withdraw their Ministers from Spain? Secondly, if vise brake out, what form would the high Powers assume with res pect to Spain ? • 'fiiinlly, was it the intermun of the High Pow ers, in case of war, to give assietance to Prance ?— The *hove ques,i ens wire pfl;poaCti without reference to die invasion of Spatm by France. The Allied. l'utrets gave the answer. that if liaises was obliged to break up her tei34;4)114 of amity with Spain, they should break up theirs. (he noble duke who repre sented the King of Englan.l at Verona tamed that the Government reoeniniended the Allies to abstain frum all inter ference in the internal idfuiri of• other counuies. They cond. dead that ad measures ne eey fee the 'amelioration of • the contlitMn of things in Spain. aught to originate in Spain rather • than alaved. If the Allies consented to assist the en' the throne of Spam to overturn that Constitution, ho 4d = lh aelme matted. they would only place him in a false posidella tai tiptoe him to danger. 'I he Allies would also expose seamifte to great iisks and roomette ceps:cites. Such were the sentionnen. expressed by•the noble duke, in discussion upon the Inflitele named questions. At last the noble: duke entered a solemn retest against interference in the 'Shire of Spain, and the nip- Caen of the Allied Powers. After breaking up the Congress it was desirable, the object of this country being the prenivation 4 f peace, to otter our mediation. whirl was refused by FraIICIA The initial Government could, however. bay, that Spain was mahout of its medietion. It was the duty of Government to adopt all the means they could to avoid hostilities. The noble earl had no did/malty in Keying. that making could have him to recommend the Standards to give up one atom, one of their their Cuostitution. 'which they considered beneficial ; but no man could deny that die Cons Outwit required modification. quip, as a divided countly.• was open to successful invasion. 'I hough she might be ultimately succe stud, she could not avoid her best pruviucts being pillaged, tOr such must be the raid& Such being the case, it was the duty of his Majesty's Govern ment to rectAuutund'imite change. if any could be made, to . avoid calamities! but this change warm be made in the spirit r amity and Conciliation. not by th reats and commands. Ida M ajesty's Getallol4l2t felt that they could not do better than avail themselves at the instrumentality of his noble friend. to whew Spain war so mach 'indebted. .1 he noble duke gained a know ledge of the Constitution shad he canied on the conflict in that country. It was, therefore, natural that he should consult the people of Spaio on the atillieet. • They, were not recommended to yield tti menaces. or even invasion—indeed the Spaniards did Lent kidney asty invasion would take place—not unul a few days /Per Kin of Fr a nce's speech were they lad to believe that would take place; When that ;yeah was delivered, tr u el m lt i of his Majesty's Government tae, that all hopes of don were at an end ; but it would appear on the Lepers, .that at the delivery of that speech. Fiance declared her desire was as ardent as ewe for peace. Even with respect to that oireasive paragraph, that all anthority must emanate from the Ciovin, there wane desire expressed so qualify it. The noble earl then adverted to the most material part of the question. namely, what had been the policy, and *bat PROM to be the piny, of the deitiah Gove mite'''. Their policy lied been neisteality.—tbey butt always avowed it towards Spain.—lle should conclude by moving that the title of tLe papers be reed. • ney would be in the possessien of all the Lords, who would we, upon inspection; that his Majesty's Government had done its City to England, France. Spain, And the King of dmis.country. Kul GREY opposed the measures adapted by his Majesty's Goveraim tin He was not meowed to argue upon all the facts, littetog hail no opportunity to see the papers ; but upon the no ble earl's btatetnclit he was ptupared to contend, that if a mote determined tune had been used ley the British Government, their effats would not have had an utitiortunate termination. neither Would Spun. nave been made time theette of iniquitous aggro. doe. After a few observations from Lord Kota, the title of die papers was read,—.Ujourerl. itrESDAY. APR:L 15. Mr. Trandle, from the Office of Chief Secretary for Ireland, tearented returns made under the insurrection Act. Mr. Tomlin, from the Treasury, presented an account of money issued jar the reduction of the public debt; also the teurth report of the Commissionen for mansging the debt. The Earl of WESTMORELAND, presented two petition. from die county of Leicester, -against the Insolvent Debtors' Act. The Earl of DERRY presented a petition ?ruin the millers, me:dwelt. and corn factors of liverpool..complaining of the monster in smelt returns are obliged to be made under the 53d of the late King. • The slattpus of BRIT presented a petition from Glamorgan, complaining ut agricultural distress. Tue above were read and laid on the table. .NE4IOCIATIOIS:—F.srI GU EY (in Cie absence of Ministers): said, he had bestowed all the time he could command on the perusal ut the papers laid ou the table • y Its Majesty's command, and Its Was sorry to say the nading of these papers had. not remelted the linpressiutt on his mind; on the contrary, his opi— nion .was, that in the late negotiations, at Verona and Paris, the honour and intetest of this country had been sacrificed to a de— ree unprecedented . It was his intention. on Thuror.ay neat, if lot. iNlaiesty's Minasters were present, to put some gm SUMS to . . Trig: NAl'itiNAV OfEGIS:11-Ea thins, sad if it watait Mitvinienee of the 1400., be should, on Tuesday beet.. bring forward the secedes more at large. The Grant in Aids)Bill. ana . the Innkceperi Alliwance Di pasted through Coinmirtees......A,ujourned. wkkruzeneir. Aram 16. • The, house met at tour o'Cluce. when counsel and witnesses were heard at the bar in sunset of Allerdyee's Divorce Rid. On the motion of the LOUD CIiANChLLOst. the evidence was ordered to be printed. Mr. Bastard and other Members from the Commons brought up a private 1011. The Bishop of OXPORD preemie; petitions from the Dean and Chapter of Windsor, and the illy of Oxford, against the Boman Cathil'e Claims. Lord SALTOUN presented a pmitiontrcnn the island of Ne• via, praying fur equisiissticis of duties to which they are liable. The ;nuncios were read and laid on the table. Tue Innkeepers Allowance Bill, and &e Grants in Aids Bill. were read the third time..—AditourawL TIIUNaDAY. ORM 17. ANTI-ROMAN CATHOLIO PRTITIONS. The Archbishop of York presented peutions against the Roman Catholic claim, from the West ant; East Riding of York. The Right Rev. Prelate declared his concurrence in the said petitions. end his intention to support the prayer of the petitions..—The Archbishop presented simi'mr pennons from 'other parts of the county of 'York.. The Bishop of CHESTER presented a petition from Ike clergy ut' Litchfield and Sarum, praying that no cOneeSsiOns ioay be wede to the Howes CatholUs. tbe at tne prOtestant establishment. Tire Bishop of GLOUCESTER presented a petition from the clergy of Glinicester, having theism: objtet. Lord•CLIFDIOI. presented a petition from the Roman Ca thona of Kilkenny, praying for Omission to the lights of the Constitution. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE delivered a petition from the inhabitants of Arran. minplaidlng of distress, and praying relieL The petitions were reed, antirlaid on the table. TEE !.ATE 114.06,01*T1"5* Lord LINO sdnw led* the pairre respecting the negotiation. and observed; that. although they might give sausfection to many. they d:d not satisfy his mind, aunt in order to know what /All.- Lamm they would aftbnl the country •generaily, he wished to obtain some account uf'the expence attending suck He thought the noble Puke 11141 been duped. The French G0..1 veroment firm duped the ministers respecting the object of the Cordon Sanitaire.—Seonully, into an attempt to model the Spanish Constitution—and unnlly, to almost a connivance at the base invasion of Spain. At aif plomatic dinner, Meatus. Ville... Montmorency, and Chatesubnand, might each boast how nersgt• they had duped the British tiovernmem. By .uttieg the added of Mr. Secretary Canning, they,had ,so flattered that gentlemen. that he was sausli.:d Portugal would not be subject to the aleisit: et Fiance. After the well known perfidy of the Bourbons. ii really wusastonieliing how the wiseacre of EneJand could here been cajoled. The noble Lord occluded by moving MI an ac count of the expence sit the foreign 4134 4 40114 at Paris and Madrid, between toe Ist of September, and the ilst of Deceniber. HOU the motion as, agreed to. Lord HOLLAND then roseto put queetions to the nolthe Livaryool, on.thesubject of esreign relaa. "First, he' wished to know whether there was any ireal in existence between England. Fratidise Spain.. or any other (gun. tries, by which the Crofts of Spain and France were to be united on one head ?—Secondly, wheelie: any treaty was signed in Sep. tembee between Ilussia and France, engaging Russia to/Unsafe France a; Toulon, with a large Juice, in case of war. with Sp.Jn —Thirdly,' whether the Duke of Wellington, at Verona,, acted as the representative of the Government, regularly &promo.' ea minister of the congress i The Earl of LIVERPOOL add, with respect to the first' question, lie was nut able to satisfy the noble lord beyond the' answer he 111.103 When the subjew was tutroduced on a former weaeion; he had nu hesitation in saying..that. looking et bit the proceedings betreeu this country and prance. he bad nu difficulty in stating that the Cruvins of France and Spain were not to les united on one head. As to any treaty by 'illicit UMW* engaged' to send troops tit France, no such thing was in existence. Oo the third question, whether the noble Duke was sent to Verona in the character et minister, his noble friend was there as pleni. perent buy, and it was open to him to take inset Macy poitits of discussion. Earl GB EY said. the noble earl (Liverpool>, owe former day. made his etatement under a misconception, when he said the invasion of Spain was opposed by the noble duke at Verona.— Th e invasion or Spain did not appeal to occupy the noble duke's attention. It was most extraoluinaiy. that in a cause which in• valved the happiness and liberty tit Europe. so much indifference should hove been laicism to tile real objects of France. The noble Earl sand, lie could not find one word which he considered a forcible diwlaimer of the principle of interference. it was not each a repeesentation as he considered consistent witls the honour and character of this country. lie trusted in God the French people did not support the obnoxious eats of their Government. and that just vengeance would ultimately fall on the iniquitous violators of the independence of a people who had shewn true courage, and real dignity msupporteng their constitutional rights. 'lnc Earl Of LIVERPOOL rise to complain of the mode adopted by the noble earl, t. ho might have gives him Re hours notice on the pcnitts of inhumation, and in that case an answer would hove been given as to these points ; but the noble lord, on pretence °failing for informstiony had actually made a speech, min ...eine tunic ass the topics to be discussed on Tuesday. The noble earl concluded by saying, it was hard upon him to call for explanation of the papers before the time fixed for enquiry. Alter some further cortversation ;he House adjourned. ralliav, Aram 18. Lord POWISCOHRT WWI tile tours aud his seat. The Marquis uItfUNTLEV presentee' two petitions from In verness, one complaining at' agienitural dilates*, the other pray for reseal of the duties on coals .arrie.l coastwise. The Earl of ESSEX presented a petition from the county of Ewe. complaining of agricultural distress. Doctor Smith, trout the couunierioners of Richmond inidge, presented accounts. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from the of Chichester. against eiteitbenan Cathultc claims. Marquis CAMDEN presented petitions from various hop. planters in Sussex, and other parts, *pinto the hop duties. Lord CALTHORPE presented a petition from Suffolk on agricultural distreis. The above petitions were read and laid on the table. THE LATE NEGoCIATIONS. The Earl of LIVERPOOL adverted to the debate of last night, and the inquiries made by several noble lords for papers connected with the late negocurtiooe. In pursuance of his pro• nose to give inhumation on the subject this day, he rose to ad dress the House. The noble earl sicced, that some of the papers could not be produced. others world be laid on the table on Monday. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, with respect to the in terineuiste conimunication from the Duke of Wellington, be• tween October and November, on the affieirs of Spain. the noble earl had said there was DO sueli paper. it was extraordinary that the noble duke should not hare made atiy such communication. as it appeared by that admission there was an absence of all notice from Mr. Secretary Canning during six weeks of that im portant communicacon tattle Duke of Wellington, dated Oct. Wis tie understood there was an intermediate conunuoication, and if so. the House ought to have it. What. howcvet he wanted most was a COMUIUDICI46.O conveying the first impresiio . made by t h e t tench Governpoent on the mud of tic Duke of Wellington, as ..a 4 • ••• t : • *: • - 'to use blooded measurer of Franca, measures which were the subject of a._ marqu expressed • hope that that paper - isVas._ produced. Lord IiLLEI4IOROUGH said he observed a passage in tba. speech of the King of Spain to. the Cortes in fans which could bear but one inference. The speech stated that the Soversaine in Congress. the Akin of Naples gala a solaria make Air they enteilladued no hostile intuition wite respect tea Spain ;be theretere wished to know whether any paper was. in reassume containing such assurance. The Earl of LIVERPOOL could milt say,.speaking front ge neral recollection, that he neser heard ot such a paper. Lunt ELLENBOROUtH.—Dues the noble lord lam to say such a paper is not in existence, or that lie never heard of it 2 The Earl ot LIVSAIPOOL.-1. never heard of such a . Lord DARNLEY could Mit discover ih the ground to justify his Majtoty's nunisters in the stomp thee war might be avoided, because in that most detestable plidt edits Wrench King's speech which said no reform was to cam heft any but the King, there was an end to. all hope of peace He wished to.know whether, in die view hichtajesty's ministers molt of the intentions pf France. they instructed Sir Charles Stewart to make a protest to the French Government. If any such do cument was in existence, be expieseed mhope that it might be produced. Lord HOLLAND wished to know whether any damsons could be prouuced on the subject of a complaint that Frame had sent money to Slain to excite insurrection l• The Earl of LIVERPOOL did nut know any document of that description. Lord k:LLENKOROUGH.—As it appears the Sovereign of France disavowed all aggrandisement in the attack on ,Spatu, it. was but lair the House should be put in possession of any do cument on that subject. The Earl of LI V leR POOL.—That most material document is before the public. The subject was then dropped. Earl LA ENLEY gave mains of a motion. on Monde, respecting the state of the navy at different ports. The Earl of LIVERPOOL adverted too notice which 'legate. before &islet of lips intention to make a motion on the subject a optics's before that House, and accordingly gave notice, that on this day se'nnight lie shuuld move for tire appointment of a. committee w enquire into the state of appeals.—Adjourned to. dionsitay. _Y: • at least be HOUSE OF COMMONS. NorrhaY, Allah 14.. Mr. J. Rains and two. oilier member& took the oath. and their seats. The Swearing Act Amendment Bill went through • comp utilise. The Forgery Bill was ordered to be read a second time this. day ail month*. The Apprentices' Bill was read a second lime.—Oral red te• be committed to.souriew. The Baum, went into a committee on the Union Duties for the impose of tilling op blank*. The preamble was post ponedreteport presented. F/lANCE AND.SPAIN. Kr. CANNING presented papers at the bar of the Illouse.—a the) were laid on lite table. Mr. CANNiN G rose to move that the title of the bill be n. •., In doing so, be should redeem the pledge given some weeks. ago 14 enter into details of the course pursued by ministers ; and in the affairs of the world, 'Mora of usexampled magni tude, he felt th; importance the duty be had to perform.— Ministers had pursued one plain definitive course, that of en deavouring to preserve the peace of Europe, and of this country, in particular. He would advert to the state of tempo in September, when these transactions coinu.ebeed, arid about which lime he took the seals of (Alice. He found in his ales • record which was now amongst the I searde of this country ; and that record laid down the principle of non-interfercuer elite the iodependence•of Europe. lint when tire rccoid wee drawn up, the. mese was not cuntemplsted ; however, when the Duke of Welhogloti went le Paris,. on his way to Verona, as he found the case of Spain likely to occupy the diectiss.i.u. the Duke vvroto home fur instructions. Us wrote for answer, that to any 'itemise or force against Spain,. come Irons what quarter it might, the minister! of England would not be party to any such proceedings ; and the Duke was instructed to state as much whenever the proper time arrived.,-(Hear, bear.) — It was not expected that the case of Spain would be discussed, least of all that it would be agitated by Fiance. The 'petole of the Kingof Fiance, on closing the session of 18 .', particu larly led to that opinion. Therefore it would he seen that the instructions originally. did not contemplate such question, certainly nut that half Europe would be required by France to joie her against Spain. The British minister was asked whe ther, in particular eases, this country would cunulettanc i e certain support; and be declined to give any hypothetic answer to airy hypothetic case. The B I. plenipotentiary, on the contrary, demanded to know the cause of offence. The question was dis cussed at Verona for weeks, and .our minister maintained the mate position to the last hour of his °widowing st Verona. Oa the Duke's return to Paris, there appeared to be a disposition to preserve peace, if possible ; -hut down to such moment there had been no commuoication by this country with Spain on. this point. The reason he would explain. There was a.greas outcry, it would be remembered; about the attacks our our met• chant vessels by the kg of the nnacknowledgedly indcpcodent colonies of South America. Decided steps were adopted by. the Britialt Government, and then • communication was mad* to Spain, but then the Spanish Court set up eltselete rights. about constructive blockades.—Eventually, however, Sir W. A'Court succeeded, and half a million was set a-part by Spain to provide redress. Every intention was evinced to afford re dress, and our Government was thus simultaneously pursuing two objects—the redress to our trade io the colonies, and the defence of the European Spanish dominions against French threats. Afterwards, at Verona, Spain coiled on the Duke to interfere in its protection; but that was declined at such crisis. However, the two, France and Spain, were in a painful situation; France seemed to act as if war could not be averted. English interference in negociation proceeded, for then the dangers of war were seen ; to Spain. then to France, and eventually to Euraye. (Hear.) The vacation had reduced User to one of peace or war between France and Spain ; aad when that was the unqualified question which was thenat issue, it was attended to with all anxiety by the Euglisli ministers. And, at last; the . Duke of Wellington did, as he was entitled to do—he ad dressed the Court of !didn't, frankly, on the present state of affairs. That letter would be found amongst the papers; it was the language of friendship addressed to the Spaniards ; Lord F. Somerset bore that letter. He still thought t.e Go vernment had done right in acoepting such mediation. The do cument had not all the finesa. of diplomacy--but it broke the honest feelings of a friend. In January Lord F. Somerset left mi tli c ti h t no improvements t r h o e v d em om en ri ts ne c o o r u t ld he f or :11.drid. Matters so stood till the extraordinary speech of that if t t e i ;l e a r n: w ed ia t . do h; I e d w id . die French minister justifying the attack of Spain.—)ifesr.)— It said ' not emanate from the Throne. It was answered b y Ea land he c ountenanced of all negociations • , alit was • doctrine that could not lm moue teranced by any British minister — (Heer, bear, hear.)—And it n. ~ I .........,....... • . -.40.0 _ .1 ,