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HOUSE OF• COMMONS. NS ith that view he should move, that the Order for Monday nex t be discharged, and that a new order be made out for Friday uext. THE co PrNitAnEx EXPEDITION. The Order of the Day was then read, and LORD D4IINLEV rose to make his promised motion respecting the justice and morality of the attack on Copenhagen. This subject has already been so often discus.cd, that nothing new could well he offered upon it; and accordingly there via% scarcely a new point struck out in the course of the debate. The Noble Lord concluded kith moving an addre , s to His Majesty, setting forth the injurious tendency of that measure, to prove the ne cessity of which t.!?*. documents laid on the table w •.s- holly imperfect and un.atisfactory. Immo ELLior rose to oppose the Address. So far ft om any fair ground existing in support of such an Address, to him it ap peared that there was al'mdant cause to command, instead of censuring the conduct !if Ministers in that respect. The Noble Lord took a survey of all the circumstances which past marked the transaction, and concluded with reading a Resolution of up probation, which it was his intention to tome, if the Address moved by the Noble Earl should be negatived. Loup Ilott.txu spoke at great length in support of the Ad dress. !Ann Rol:Risco° v expressed his intention to support the Re sedation proposed by Lord Elliot. L•ißn IloLL4so t , hortly.explained ; after which the question was put, and the House divided on Lord Darnley's niotinu—Con teat, present 26, Pros ies 25-51. Non-Contents present 56, Proxies 54-110. Majority 59. A short debate took place on Lord Elliot's Resolution, upon which the Douse again divided—Contents present 61, Proxies 61-125. Non. Contents present 29, Proxies 28-57. Majority 86. Adjourned. FRIDAY, MARCH 4. Counsel were heard in the Scotch Appeal, Rickan v. the Tru'tees of Stewart. The Marquis of Buckingham and Lord Selsea, took the oaths and their seats. The Scotch Distillery Bill was read a sarisnd time. Loan L.4rounniLE gave notice, that on Monday he should more for a Copy, or Extracts, of any Correspondence with his Majesty's Allies, and particularly with Sweden ► relative to the Orders in Council.—Adjourned to Monday. MONDAY, FEBRUARY 29. LORD LAKE. Loan C.ISTLERE.4GIi moved the Order of the Day for the Rouse to resolve iuto a Committee to take into consideration his litajesti's Message, requesting the house to make provision for the family of the late Lord Lake. The Speaker having left the ('hair, Lord Castlereagh addressed the Committee. lie stated that he now came forward with a Resolution, in obedience to the King's Message, and he trusted there would be little ditli rti:ty in persuading the Committee to agree to what he should propose, as such grants had always been the practice of Par liament to bestow, especially upon men distinguished for splen did military abilities.—These abilities having been crowned ith success. Lord Castlereagh went on to describe the heroic achievements of Lord Lake, in early life, in America; in Europe, at Linerlles ; and finally, in Asia. After eulogising merits, he stated, that with regard to the female part of all Lake's family, his Lordship had left them little or nothing, '5004 a-year. consideration, however, of his Lordship's iosteminent Services having been displayed, in India, in 1803, it was intended to propose a pension of 2,0001. per annum to he present Lord Lake, and to the two next heirs male, and to slake this pension payable, troth the 11th of September, 1803. l'hisarrear would make the proper arrangements for the female tart of the family. After that Resolution should be carried, le should follow it up by another, for an Address to his Majesty, Ambling him to order a Monument to be erected, to perpetuate ;the memory and seri ices of Lord Lake. MR. IV lIITEIRE AD objected to the Resolution. lie observed, - a the Noble Lord seemed to have laboured the matter much, id it such a reward was necessary now, how much more ne ;ay was it in 1803, w hen Lord Lake was alive and suscepti 'e of enjoying the dignities conferred on him, and the liberality Parliament at the bathe time. Ile was sorry to learn that MARCH 6.. W itli that view he slum' be discharged, and than uext. THF COPT The Order of the Dal Loan D,41/NLEt• rose the justice and tnoralit subject has already bee. could well be offered upi a new point struck out i Lord concluded with too forth the injurious trade cessity of which t.!?s• do imperfect and tinsatisfac Immo ELLIOT rose to fair ground existing in st peared that there was censuring the conduct 91 Lord took a survey of ; the transaction, and con' probation, which it w: moved by the Noble Ea Loup Ilott.txu spok dress. Loan EORRINGDON e solution proposed by Li Limn IloLL4so short was put, and the Ilousei tents present 26, Prosi Pro vies 54-110. Majt 1 A short debate took p which the Douse again 61-125. Non.Coutents i Adjourned. FR Counsel were heard Tru , tees of Stewart. The Marquis of flu 1 oaths and their seats. The Scotch Distillery Loma L.4rounniLE 1 c move for a Copy, or E• Majesty's Allies, and pa Orders iu Council.—Adt ...... HOU: stostli Loan C.ISTLERE.4GII House to resolve iuto a I Majesty's Message, refit the fancily of the late Li ('hair, Lord Castlereag that he now came forw the King's Message, an rutty in persuading the propose, as such grants liament to bestow, espei did military abilities.— vial =access. Lord Cas atchievisments of Lord Europe, at Lincelles ; c ibis merits, he stated, tl Lord Lake's family, 11 15 1,500/. a-year. In coo Int eminent Services ha t was intended to prop he present Lord Lake, take this pension pay al Whit arrear would make art of the family. AI • e should follow it up b , . tiabliiig hint to order a the memory and sees icon t it Mn. . IV lIITIIREAD obj Inha! the Nobl e L ord sect • d it su c h a reward NV essary was it i n 1803 , v le of enjoying the digni f Parliament at tae ~,i MARCH 6: - r . . THE NATIONAL REGISTEW. 149 Lord Lake's family stood in need of such assistance. He Atiould not, therefore, object to the vote altogether, only b, did not wish to go to such an extent. Mr. W. DVNDAS supported the Motion. MR. M. A. TArLoR argued strenuously in favour of the motion, and dwelt much on Lord Lake's gallant conduct at lincellei, and his brilliant and important victories in India. Lord Lake had left but forty thousand pounds to support the dignity of the title, and to provide for a family of seven children. If some provision was not to be made for the families of merito rious officers in cases of this kind, they ought to be restricted from marrying, like Catholic Priests (a laugh). The daughters of Lord Lake would have but 1,5001. each under their father's will. LORD For.r:•roNz opposed the grant. He thought those who held places of high profit without saving, had no right to come to Parliament for relief. lie was particularly ad►erse to the ' , rant of a monument. MR. WurranEto mid, there were radical objections in his mind to the erection of a monument to the memory of Cord Like. Ile did not think Lord Lake's services entitled him to the distinction of pre-eminent e.ervices. Sim P. BURDETT entered his protest against the vote. In the present state of the public hurthens, he slid not think Parlia ment should be called upon to make such grants. The Cron n possessed ample means of rewarding all military merit without coming to Parliament. Ile would not say any thing to er tract from the merits of Lord Lake. But let these merits be ever ro great, they were but a small part of the question. Consistently with a due regard to public economy, he felt himself compelled to oppose the motions, and to take the sense of the House on them. THY CHANCELLOR or THE EXCHEQran raid, the Crown possesses no power of conferring adequate re vs ards and proei•ions without the rid of Parliament. The highest pension u►at could he granted on the Chit List, was 1,20 W. a-year, of which only 800'. clear would be received, and this the King could grant only for the period of his own life. He supported the motion generally. Sin e. Amman. had heard nothing that could i►duce him from his intention of dividing the House on the whole proposi tion. The Right lion. Chancellor of the Exchequer must I►ave known even by looking round his own family, that he alluded to other means of rewarding meritorious service than those the Civil List afforded. W here s ere the sinecures, the patent places, and reversions? if Ministers would come and state to the House that these things were abolished, there w•oul i he an obligation to grunt ample provision to every meritorious officer : But while they existed, and were disposed of tin body knew how, nor for what service, (though he belies ed, indeed, the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite knew it), he could nut allow Parliameut to vote away the Public money on every demptid of this kind. lie would act honestly, without regard to what any man, or any set of men may think; and he felt himself bound to persist in what he called taking the sense of the House, though the sense of the House was already well known. Several Members spoke for and against the motions, after which the House divided.—For the motion in the House.— A :.cs, 201 ; Noes, 26.—0 n the question for a Monument to Lord' Lake's memory, another division took place—Ayes, 202; Noes, 15. RUSSIAN MEDIATION. MR. l'lrD/Ta RE 4 D said, that the Commissioners who delivered his Majesty's Speech, gave a hope, that all the Papers, re. spt•cting tin• Russian Ntedia lion, would be laid before the RonSe; he saw with what difficulty they had obtained the few now or the table, which was a convincing proof that Ministers had acted' improperly, and was fearful of that reprobation which their conduct so justly merited. We are now arrived at an important crisis, and certainly he must say, that opportunities had been most shamefully neglected when a Pace was attainable un honourable terms, through the Mediation of Russia. lie said the war in which we are engaged is continued year after bear without any hope of its being terminated, without knowing the precise object in contention; then he called to the recollection of the house the number of Petitions which are daily pouring in upon us from the manufacturing tow ns ; and be hoped that they would at once opts the eyes of Ministers as to the real situation of the country. It was evident that Niiiiicters had neglected the meani put in their power to obtain peace. The Honour.. able Member maintained it was not yct too late—it was dc,ira. ble—and why not co►►►ply with the wishes of the !Allies It n as no degradation to apply in direct terms to Bonaparte; then if lie refused, be was certain it would unite the people at tar e, •••••01