The National Register. — London, England, 1821-02-12 00:00:00

Mr. CREEVEY gave notice, that on Thursday next he should move an address for the Navy Estimates of those sums which hail already been voted by the I se. Mr. P. GRENFELL moved for returns of Bank Notes and Bank Post Bills to the latest .period.—Ordered. • Lord FOLKESTONE presented a petition from St. Neat's, Berkshire, praying flint the Queen's Halite should lie restored to the Liturgy.—Ordered to lie on (lie table. M r. G. 13 EN NE 1" 1' presented a petition from Ellesmere, Salop, praying the house to listen to the desires of die people, and to restore the Queen's name 10 the Liturgy, and thus allay the public discontent. He agreed in the sentiments of the petition.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. LAMBION presented a petition :tom Lliestersle street, Durham, with a similar prays r. lie hoped the petitions would be attended to, as the only means of allay ing—not the flame of ventilation," that had been talked of last night—Lot the dame of discontent.—Peti tion read, and cackled to lie printed. SUPPLY of WaYsti.-is•Alr. FREEMANTLE moved that a Select Committee be appointed to re q uire into the supply of water afforded to the inetiopolis, and repro! their opinions thereon. lie was not interested in any of these companies, and he had no personal grievance to complain of, hut he thought that the public ought to have many grievances redressed. Till 1810 the supplies chiefly came from the Chelsea, the Thames, and New River Water Works' Companies, and these companies were in a prosperous condition,_ though they complained of the ruinous state of their finances. The act-rage tate on each house then was 275. ; but now, sins e the establish ment of the new companies, the object of which was to destroy the monopoly, the average rate was now 1)0111 41. to 51. each house. Mr. 111. A. TAYLOR said, that all the facts had not been so fully stilted as the troth of the case wools' war rant; but an opportunity would lie hereafter all'u'ded of laying them before the House. Motion agreed to, and a select committee of his pet - soils appointed. PATENT lIIGHTS.--hlr. CURW EN moved for leave to bring in a bill for the better protection of patent rights. Motion agreed to alter some rentarka from dlr. Wien teriley. Fon EION TRADE.—Mr. WALL.%CE, iu submitting his proposition to the House, wished its adoption to hake place as soon as possible. in order that the details might be before the House this session. He eimeltided web moving for a committee to enquire into the state of the foreign trade oldie comitry,and the means of extending it. Mr. CUItWEIN was glad that the gorerumeul was at last awakened to the importance of the .abject. Mr. A. BARING flattered himself that sonic goJil might result trims the labours of the committee; yet it Was an afflicting tact, that although the rummy was now iu the sixth year of peace, it could not lie Said that oily one branch LI trade was se tilt d. If soniciliitig were not done, it was to lie feared that our trade would be more seriously affected. As to the complaints concerning agi le culture, he had no doubt it was 101101 distressed ; but its interests were so comiected with the other interests of the conotry, that they 'mist stand or fall logellier.—(Hear, hear! ) SL•VE TIt•DE.-111r• IV. srIITH moved for a series of papers relative to the mode of catty ing on the slave trade by foreign powers. Great praise was due to the noble l o ss. for the exertions lie had made In promote the abolition of the trade: and yet it was lamentable that the powers of Europe, who had live years ago acknowledged the inhuman character of the trade, stilt left so touch to he accomplished. The papers were; eveutitally untried to be laid berme the House. CENNL ILE 01 , NIINISTENS.—The above several motions occupied the House till au advanced floor in the evening: and the House then beeame kilo ably nil!. Sir R. WILSON moved, that the debate on the Marquis of Tasistock's motion, for censuring the conduct of mi. uisters, in their proceedings towards the Queen in par. ticular be resented. 'lino having hero agreed to, Sir It. W. co 11111 l owed the debate, condemning the conduct which hail been pursued by ministers, in uejecting the Queen's name ;tom the Liturgy, and maintanicig that the state of our internal adairs called loudly fi,r a change of system. If the system had liad been ptirsned In ini• nistees were to be rontiotied, there cold lie lull hope of the resiorathni of tranquillity. He %%mail now read sevel al extracts filial evidence which monsters might have had before they brought in their bill. The house was al% are that her Majesty had lived three yeurs at • Pesaro • which was not a village, as hail been reps esanted elsewhere, hot a city of great consequence. The first extract, thelefore, which he should read was trout a reposition made by the Bishop of Pesaro, domestic chaplain to the Pope. After stating in the strongest lan guage that, doming her residence of three years at Pesaro, bothisig iiintiuus to the honour of her Majesty had ever come to his knowledge, he went tat to say-- '• We further certify that, in the fulfilment of our pas• total duty, we contintially receiv a score notices of the rotatort of indi%oluals lit nit in out dioceses, Lol wr have re. recd store of Ibis iudividnal that cold give Us I (Asa!) to so-pert the tlecetley u I bet Majvaly i nor call we doubt that, had there scatty occult eel ally scalisfal, it ceatruty could not have remained concealed front the vigilaisce ill our Cinirt.—Atigsist 26, 1t720." `orb was tile duclavaitou of it person who unquestiona bly had the best opportunity of know log the truth. The or xt extract was frilla a kit el cut Cardinal Altana a pri son pre-eminent for his vii toes, and who would gladly have r mile over to this comitry on her Itlajesty's beliall, bad it been in his power:-- •' Certaissly your Itlajeiv having deigned to allow tine to attend yolir court, both iu l'esato and ill Home ; sittailit Hove bins mule a ole than all) other to liave dune justice to those union tit virtues which I have admired iu 'roar Nlsjs sty ; aid 1 should have beet' able to testi() that, in Ilse various occasions 1 hose lied the good fortune to apploadi yuur Majesty, you have tern always sus round% d fry the most select society, and that your ills. course, you 'Limners, and depoittoraii, have all cum-s -pandril, and bei II smirk as breastie a pi svii:ige tit your exalted rank. But all this, which toy ru a uuntaurrs so tiofel tosiat: ly pI nSi tit my atilt auleg in pet sou , 11l ci tan he rave by nom) eilier gt-011e110.11, ilistin goished Ly their bulb, lilt let, atisi piobity.—August kV." . . . he ntAl tleinntitior. to which he would all the atten tion of the honbe, wae. one limn a in I ittt %%Ito 'nub' bt Istnmat to eve') griiilt man ulte had vtinit.ti Ilisiy, Mid lio WM.) Vibe t N 1.0 141111 111 vet . (itch $ll Is I (I , lll.lAlt•isi , tirs Vollw. llsot U4E1411..1 as fullua a t—" On all uccabiaii,, ahica *ere v t ,. ) l l ,( i a ti v. viatlinii Ll 7 inanylnato In he. houilbil THE NATIONAL REGISTER --sometimes ut her convergatione in the evening—at other times accompanying her in her walks, etc. 1 always ob served united in her the most gracious affability and the most noble decorum, sucla•as to be alien minced by me to the various other noble and distinguished peisunages who enjoyed the honour of her society." The next, and the last, to which he should refer, was from e nom of equally respectable elsittacier, who had been lately in England, and W 45 4C.lllilllliell with many distinguished individuals in this c.iiiiiity. Piofessur • 1 Ulllllllellll, the hailivirleal to whom - he entitled, made the following declaration:— " Admitted by the nature of my office into the interi or apartments, I was enabled to perceive that o Islet' by ue easional visiters could never be known or I vprecialed. I never saw oily thing is her 111111111C11 11141 %al. 1101 decent and correct; 4114 0101 the persons Of INT court whose Arcs ett•clied them must to her permit), I have always ieen her preserve that decorum which, will 1 varying from that goodness which is natural 10 her, respected the b Is prescribed to her by her high rank. To her inte rims her Majes•y certainly WAS inure cutidescendiug than, unfortunately, is 11111111 to wow moving Its a high sphere, and 1 have seen her Majesty, though scarcely recovered, go duo n and visit the lowest of her done sties causing the medicines to he administered, and attending to see that every Ilse smallest assistance possible was reit tiered to them. lA' oh respect to the persons with wh om her Majesty liked to associate principally, they were chiefly persons the most distitignised iu the country, tooth In point of lailk and prufessiun." There was only nue circumstance tunic, in connexion with this brsnelt or th, subject, to which he %mild advert. II had been stated, with emelt effect, in enumerating the charges against her Majesty, that she had been black balled by the Cassino, or Society of Nobles, at 1 1 111d1i 41111 to 1.110% that lie truth Of this charge was egos{ to that of the others, he should read the following extract 611111 a certitica e which the Allbliian government had allowed to be made:— "The Directors of the Society of Nobles of Milan do certify, that it dots not appear from the registers and join mils of the said society, 60111 its first establishment op it, the p t - o.eut(l.ly, that lira down! . tier residence 111 Italy, ever made applieittiiiii to he ildiffit Led as a mem ber of the said • Society of Nobles.' " President Director, SAUBE (:ONTE . ABI3IO. " Al BUCELLAItY, Secretary. "Milan, at the Palace of lilt' Society of Nobles, Nov. I, 1520." . _ The hum member coorludiil a speech of great length by saying he hail now only to stale, Ihnt being himself an aid cat c fist reform, he had always thought more slrungly in N. favour than a uuld promote Ids personal interests. [Gear.] Upon two contingencies he aas both ready and a citing to retire front public life, lie sh.suld solicit e his constituents to subst it ote some other (epresemaiive in his place, whenever the I loie•e of C iiiiii nuns had pro( etded in sorb an extremity of disregard to the a ishes of the people us to deprive it of ull confidence in its measures. H; should tin lee, he willing io a ilhdraw into privacy, without recompense for nny poor services it might have been his good tot tune to render, henever it appeared that his presence offered (dainties to the way of any arrangement he deemed essential to the a el lure of his country, ' , Hear, hew.] Air. iiiiskinsmi, Nil.. W. Pole, and the Attorney General, spoke or coal se a the motion. Sir Francis Burdett, thellon. Mr. Bennett, and Mr. Tier ney in support itt it.—The latter gentleman concluded by say ing, •* Tiie gentlemen °Malt i le, or thea party, have now been oi office 3-1 or Si years, and cats ally man sa,, if their system was good, that we should be placed in the situation in which we at present are ? Should we, if their system was beneficial, from year to year. bare new hilts introduced, treliehhig the liberty of the subject, and instead (deflecting good, creating evil? (Heir, hear.] Can that he a wise ur a Bond sy stem that renders ail army of 110,000 men necessary in this cottony in a time of peace? [Hear, hear.] Can that he a praiseworthy system which fitments religious dissenti 111 l Can any man say that there is not sonsething radically bad in such a system, the fruits of which tire the growing discon tents of the people? Wear.] Let the house remember, a hru the seine of the cottotry rs I. lie collected, how Arent an the difficulties of riles:ling that object, tigaiust the error moos influence of ministers—an influence which has been growing fin' 33 yews, which has given them such a root in the church, in the army, and itt the navy, as proves when a sit oug resistanee IS made against them, that the sense of the people is opposed to them, since a great number of people are absolutely tinder their fangs.— Coder these circumstances, it becomes the house to look abutit tbeni, %h 1141 becomes of his sLitesly's ministers is hot the Flintily object of consideration, The house ought to do their duty; and, if the conduct of ministers lira arils the Goren has been what I have attempted to desetibe it, let gentlemen seriously pause Wore they reject this motion.—(Hear, hear.—) It is not the King's ministers who are on their trial, but Ibe House of Com. molts; and all I shall say firther is, God send us a good del, vet ante !—(Cheering.) Mr. BROUGHAM, who rose immediately; and as soon as order could be obtained, requested the favourable attention of the hosi.e, rot so much because he was in some degree personally concerned in what had passed, but because he had still to dis charge the reinuini:er elan anxious duty to her Majesty, ten ucreii infinitely mote painful and burdensome by the tune lout mutter it the speech of the noble lord. like had refused to look ut the systematic attempts to malign and defame her Majesty, not only in that part ut the public press known to her under toe controul of the responsible advisers of the Crown; lie still could i•Ot persuade himself that there was even a probability that p i oseedings against the Q ucen were B barideile.i.—G.:,; forbid - that he should accuse ministers, or even Illicit must suspicious unierlings, of giving encouragement to the public nuisance to which he had just referred ; but whoever might be its authors, it evidently lid mwed anxiety to keep alive calumnious topics of hest and agitation, and, with other proo:s. convinced . loin that thaugh the noble l or d h a d re li nqu i s h e d ull d e -i gn o f tether prosecution, the intention still existed is some unknown and itresponsible quarter. NO, no ; hear, hear.] The learned gentleman then proceeded to take an historical view of die many persecutions and studied insults to which her Majesty hail been subjected, and concluded a speech to which no I:.irii,gcnieut can do adequate jmt:ce by saying—. 1 have stated thus ninth," conuntoxf the lion. and learned gentleman. as to die couduct of die Queen. It is tit I should now tli:..chorge what I call a debt of Justice 10 her. I know ienily asserted, and must ; Iy cireul deo tbr purpose: industriously it has been 101 idiuu , ly and itht:evo `,llich must be obvious to every man, that ley txptcnsed opini• om of her Majesty's conduct are not the same in taut s ilk my ,awn CallsclialtiOUS conviction...( Ileac.) It is necessary, Sir, tor me, with that scrims:ma i l and sincerity which it may be permit- Led to a man up o n the most solemn occasions to express,to liieh I now t:J risers hi the lace of this lionse l —t.:4l if. ittsca.l . o/ nti;ovfttv, that had I been sitting a, a judge, a 43 another tribunal, I should have beeen found the number of those men who, laying their hands d their'hbarts s con.ci. entiously pronounced her Majesty • Nws guilty.'—(Beiterate( cheAs.) For the truth of this assertion I desire to tender every pledge that may be tiro,' valued and most sacred. I wish to make it in every form which mar be deemed most solemn and most binding ; and if I believe it not, as I now advance it, I here imprecate on myself every curse which is most horrid and most penal." (It would be difficult to describe the earnest emphasis with which this asseveration was delivered, the deep interest with which it was listened to. or the enthusiastic and general cheering by which it was greeted.) It was no ordinary occasion that compelled an advocate to travel so Air out of 1113 usual tract; but he (Mr. Brougham) felt that upon the present occsAion he had been treated not as an advocate of her Majesty; but lie had been made a witness against her Majesty. (Cheers from the opposition.) That opinion of her Majesty's innocence he was known to have uniformly entertained from the commence ment to the termination of the proceedings--an opinion which was not better known to his private friends than it was published to the world. That opinion did not originate in, but had been confirmed by the proceedings themselves and in the strength with which lie had ever entertained it, he repeated, that had he r on a late occasion, been taken from the bar and wade a judge. he should have joined in a conscientious verdict of • Not guilty. The omission of calling all the witnesses whose evidence would have put the country in possession of all the truth, was a stigma on the case, which no majority however numerous, would de. stroy. (Isoud ..: ve ers from the opposition )It was & stigma on these proceedings, which if to use the words of the master of the Mint (Mr. W. Pole) they, the oppoeidon, were to be beaten to pieces, would never be forgouen by the country. (Ghee: and laughter.) Thcy had, as was said, been beaten on one side the other evening, and now they were to get the knock on the other side to night, which was to rut an end to them ; but out of their rum would arise what would prove the disgrace of those who had been instrumental in bringing on and sanctioning this violation of justice. (Cheers from the opposition, followed by still louder cheers from the ministerial benches.) He said, out of their ruins, and after the potato which ...ere rung in anticipation of triumph had subsided, and were heard no more, would arise what would remain a lasting disgrace to the Parliament which had supported 3ucli measures—measures which he maintained, were scandalous to Parliament. (Cheers from the opposition.) It would never be forgotten that, ministers having it in their power to produce the means of ascertaining the truth, had neglected those means —had chosen to bring in this bill, when, by sending for one or two witnesses, who were, he might say, living in their neigh bourhood, they might have prevented all the injustice and infamy which had followed. The hon. and learned gentleman followed up his reasoning on this, part of the question in a must impres sive and eloquent manner. Adverting to the Milan conimission, which the noble lord had described as having been employed in a rigorous investigation to vindicate the character of the Queen, he of:leered, that the house would not know what was the descrip tion of the witnesses out of 80 whom they had 'ejected. The home might, however, judge of their anxiety to avoid sending_ ar.y thing very low or mean wh,a they sent out Rastelli; of thsir wish to avoid every thing that was filthy when they sent the pimp Cuslit (cheers); of their deteimination to avoid sending any one who was infamous and degraded when they scot Ma. jocci. Sochi, and that pattern for all modest chambermaids. Mademoiselle Dumont. (Ilear.) In conclusion, he said, that every act of his proceedings, front the commencement, was govarned solely by his duty to his Queen, and his attention to the interests of his country. (Loud and repeated Theers.) At his conclusion the question was loudly called for. The house then divided:— Ayes 178 Noes 424 Majority against the motiont 146 W ISMICIDA It. FEB. 7. There being only thirty-eight members present at foe. o'clock, the speaker declared the Douse to aloud adjourned TIM ItlID• IMS. 8. Ms. BYNG ()resettled petitions on the subject of St. Pin. eras church to light Poplar, with gas, &c. Ordered to be referred to Cot iiiii ittres. Mr. S. WORTLEY presented petii:nos from woollen manufacturers in the Wit Riditig of Yorkshire; from Leeds, &c. pray mg (hut the House would alter the laws regarding the stamping of woollen cloths. T he hon. member gave 111111 Ce, that WI ill early day he should move for a select c vvvvvvv titter to enquire into the allegations of the petitions, the Nate of the laws regarding the stamping of woollen cloths, Ere.—Read and ordered to lie on the table. Mr. CUIIW EN presented a petition limo faroierScf Glom. cester.hire, complaining of agricultural distress, and pray. iog fur relief, lie said that grain was now ti.. per bushel. It had been said that Bs. was the lowest price at which gram could he sold so as to alloril a fur profit to the ;pearl - . Now Is, difference made a clutri i ;e of 5,000,0001. to the fainter; hut the dillerente in the prices now occasioned 111.8 of 10,000,0001. yearly to the Kronen. If the deterio eation were 1 or 2.. mule, Dieu the loss to the formers w club! he 20,000,0001. Now CtlUill the funnels go on under such disadvantageous con unntuncrs , &c. Petition received and ordered to lie on the trade. Petitions were inesented from Scales's), Leicestershire —HuNerford.—Surrey, &c. praying the re.turatom ut the Qu cols naitie tot .e Liturgy. Mr. DEN MAN said, that these petitions mere more nes cessar) than ever, for stilee the end of the proceedins to 1110 Lords, the conduct towards the Quern Wosa of el more unjust and calumnious character than. the ministers 1111,8 tat ki Of the numerous derio.' s that hod not been brou. tit fors ward. and they had 111811 at their loin exproice, mirrulat. ii tie Auto ney (;r'umor's statement its the raw proved ag , ittist rue Queen Was thus to be denied or 111,1 I And sceedira of certain Lords had been sent thiough the country ut the Golfer it e.xpeece, and unit. r ? %mild Ito suable lord dent this ? would the Holl.e bear these uiui t , -that douse which seemed at all hurled. determined to au,apois ministers? It on. said. that Ai procredrags were to he abandoned. and yet :lie noble lord dealt ill such fatal insitotis ;Ilion,. lie w told suppose 11 C.lBe. If the llohle turd were charged with tilts of bribery, Ac. in Ireland; If a new miu-stry were to send a co ttttt mision to Ireland to enquire into the conduct of the ex-tainisrer ; and if an •loheti tttttt ntry afterward. abandoned the hill—vs-mild the Nohle. Laid it. cm it jug to he BlookeU of :IS a gU.II) priBOnigr I treal.)— As to the legality of the question regarding the Liturgy; he litter h.rd it tiOisht about It t 1111.1 if the Queen haf 'reveilles.' the profet red bribe, he sbqui l has e 11 , 1 . unworthy 0, the protection from aul u p ilituu of 1110 fo , llllll, it 1111'11111r Queen would 111.811,8 1011,,, as, she was Itlie Lend C ASTL Elf CAA: II thought it wet bard that the gi draws' opposite uric to have '• %%anon& of 1 hose" a;„.iiiet hie iimiwitY, without flow being *Wised to raise a he..A iu detente I lite Qiieetes party we, e to pay journid., 10 Osculate slander, rind if ticwernment sent cor rected or COlllll s, 111011 I here wit, too "'rebel.. Ulll .0 10114 as ail. spit in lii-t1 d, so 1U11,; Ili it au.: said this qu. sum should out Ire Al test. Ile would persevere in atrium g 111141 he deel3lBBl to be trite. Ur. 1 ll;1111ub.ereril. that if the Noh:e Loud did not (For cothrikalioi or; ~ige 1