The National Register. — London, England, 1820-10-15 00:00:00

- azeept you gave him orders to do so?.—Not at all. The Captain of the ship took orders from me. It was his duty. The tent on the deck was within three or four feet front the steersman during the night and day. On the return from Julia I slept on the deck once, within five filet of the tent. The steersman might hear what passed in the tent generally. There was a ladder that went down to the el' • groom from the tent. It was kept open at night, for the tent covered the passage, but the opening was always clear. The tub in which her Royal Highness bathed could not go into the Princess's cabin. It was too large. Her Royal Highness called to me in the night, when I disturbed her repose by Inanativring the ship. —I was obliged to open the tent when 1 did not dts• inetly hear her Royal Highness. I never saw the slightest impropriety nor indecency in her conduct to Berganii or any other person: On Bergami's taking leave, he kissed liar hand, which was done by all persons on taking leave. I have been iu the Navy about sixteen years. I wear the Orders of Merit and Fidelity. given to we by the King of Naples, for taking several privateers, while in the Neapolitan Navy. I have received the Royal permission to wear one of them. Cross•exa►nined by the Solicitor General. The witness then underwent a rigid cross-examination, in which he declared be never saw Bergami sleep in the Princess's tent. At ten minutes past four o'clock, Earl Grey inquired if the eioss.exatninatiou was nearly concluded ? when the Solicitor General said he could not say that it was. The House then adjourned. SEVENTH DAY OF TILE DEFENCE. TUESDAY, OCT. It). This morninz, at five iniuutes before ten o'clock the Lo RD CAA %OCLi.OE took his seat on the Woolsack. Prayers wire read by the Bishop of Bristol, and the list of Peers %$ as called over jai the usual manner, and some excused on accouut of isdisposition. it v. to call the Mention of (heir Len GROSVENOR rose . . 111.— Lordships to a.sobject which he conceived of considerable importance. Their Lordships had, iu an early stage of these proceedings, declared that nothing in the rules ur privileges of this House ought to prevent the prosecution of a witness who might have committed perjury. But as, notwithstand ing this declaration, there appeared some doubts on the sub. jtet, het bought it Sue to the honour and dignity of the house that dime doubts should be removed, that no difficulties might bo thrown la the way of prosecuting for perjury, and that, for this purpose a short Act of Parliament should be made as speedily as possible.. Time LORD CHANCELLOR said, that, in the present age of the proceedings, this address of the Noble Lord was the most extraordinary he bad ever heard iu that House.— Wheu the Couusel for the Queen stated that he would prose ante one of the witnesses for perjury, he went too far. It was not for their Lordships to contemplate cases of perjury, nor to ofer an opinion as to the perjury of any wittier, until the proceeding' were finished. An address to the House imputing perjury to a witness who might hereafter be proved not to have perjured himself, was highly improper. Earl GROSVENOR explained. The Noble and Learned Lord had spoken us if this was the first time the subject badbeeospoken of in the House. This. however, was not the ease; and as it had been acknowledged in the coin reencement of these proceedings, that the House should hove power of directing prosecutions for perjury, no impediment *eight to be thrown in the way of Inch prosecution. . The LORD CHANCELLOR was still of opinion, that it was highly improper any Noble Lord should impute perjury to a particular witness before the proceedings were easteladed. The Earl of ESSEX thought the best way of proceeding would be by an Act of Parlitiument to remove all ditlicalties as proposed by his Noble Friend. The Earl of LIVERPOOL agreed in the observation of the Lord Chancellor. Lord MEIN 'LIE rose and said, from some circumstances which had occurred, wilt which he would not trouble their Lordships, be thought it desirable that William Carrington, see of the wallows examined in behalf of the Queen on a former day, should he again called before their Lordships, be order that certain further questions should be asked of a Witness already examined before their Lordships. The Earl of LIVERFOOL said, it was a question for Hier Lordships to decide, whether it might be better to call the whams now, or to trait mail the conclusion of the evi dence for the Queen, and then call him previous to the summing up. The Earl of LAUDERDALE was not aware what was the maltreat the questions to he put to the witness; hut lie thought it was fur the Noble Lord who had these questions to propose. to say whether he would put them now, or at ony future time. The Earl of DONOUGILMOR E was of opinion that if the questions of the Noble Lord were accessory for the informntion of the Court. th- sooner their Lordships were io possession of that information the better. Lord M ELY ILI. E deemed it highly expedient that the • heron. Carrim:toa should be examined nab as little delay as possible; The Noble Lord then moved, that William C.lrringloll should be called to the bar of the House and examined. Agreed to. Counsel were called in at twenty-five minutes before eleven. Lieutenant Flynn was then railed to the Bar, and under went a tediously I °K cross.examiwition by the Solicitor. General and the Lords, without any inaportaut fact trans Viring—after a hick William earringtun now appeared at the bar, and was examined by Lord 31E3.111.1.x. You said to the Comisrl why examined von on Saturday that you had been a mill.hipman prior to your being to the service of Sir IV. Gen ?—Yes, I did, with Sir John - Beresford. Yon were asked if you bad been in any G tiler ship ex cept the Puictlers, and yon said no?;---I meant that I was under the command of Sir J. Beresford, but I had been its other ships. You said you had been in the merchant service, and then on land, and then a midshipman in the Poicliers—is that answer comet ?-- Yes. _ Yoa were asked if yon had been en board any min r King's ship before the rubless, anti yon said no ; k tlidt true?-4 thought the 1011 relOic das to any other ship - under Sir J. Itereslat ti ; pl./ veil in no other ship 'lintel hint, butt I was on buard other situps, the .Majeslic and anothfr. Mil you enter vohmtarily m. not ?---I was pre snit. Did you serve as Midshipman in the other ship,?—No, as Quarter Master. You said you bad been in tl a merchant's service, then ma land, where were )ou vu lea el-1 was bred au J ban THE NATIONAL REGISTER on the sea coast—sometimes lu boats, sometimes at sea, 1 and sometimes on land. Lient. Ilowirms sworn.—Examined by Mr.TY arta LL. You are a Lieutenant in his Majesty's navy 1-1 am. How long have you bees a Lieutenant I—Since the early II ' part of the year 1609. Where du you live at present I—At Rotten, in France. Did you at any time go to Italy with her Royal High. ness the Princess of Wales?-1 did, in April, 1815. Where was her Royal flightless at that ti ttt o—At Genoa. How long did bile remain at Genoa after you joined her —About six weeks. Do you recollect, whilst you were at Genoa, any dis turbance happening in the course of the night ?—I do. What was the nature of the disturbance 1--It was sup posed no attempt hail been made to break into the house. Was there any alarm in the night?—There was. Did you get up in consequence I—l did. Where did you go 1-1 went to the great hall. Who did you see there?—'Tie Queen and mail of her servants. Was 51ajoeci there I—lte was. During the time you were at Genoa, did you ever breakfast with her Royal Highness?—Never. Did you ever see her at breakfast?-1 have. At the time you saw her Royal Highness at breakfast, was lic•rganti breakfaiting with her I—No. Did you ever know him breakfast at Genoa with her —Never. Were you in the habit of dining with her Majesty at Genoa?—Yes, every day. Did Berganti ever dine with her while she was at Ge noa I—Never. Where did Ilergami first begin to dine with her?—l do nut recollect the name of the place, but it was In the course of our journey to St. Gutitard, and in the mouth of August, 1815. Did he begin regularly to dine with her Royal Highness at that time I—No. It was at the Villa d'Este he began regularly to dine with her Royal Highness. After we quitted Genoa we went to Milan ; there her Huy al High ness resided at a place called Olivera. There was a staircase into which her Royal Highness's room opened, but it was not a secret staircase. It led to my apartment where I slept, and to the chambers of all the lower ser vauts. I do not recollect that the staircase was used by the lower servants in going to their apartments, but I used o pass through it in going to soy apartment. After wet lett Milan we went to Venice. Her Royal Highness took up her reeideirce at. Villa d'Este, in September. I knew where her Royal Highness slept at Villa d'Este. After our long voyage, t recollect being at Tunis. I accompa nied her Royal Highness dining the whole voyage. Where did Bergaini sleep at Tools ?—I ft COIICCt his pointing me out his room, and I saw him in his loom, using it as his room. Was it near her Royal Highness's room I—No. Describe the different situatiuns of Bergann's and of her Royal Highness's rooms I—Bergatui's room was the only 'Quin up a light of stairs. I never saw any body occupy that room but Bergarni. There were several rooms between the Hight of stairs and her Royal Highness's room. 1 mean there were three or four rooms to pass. Was Bergaini's roma on the same story with that of her Royal Hignuess /—lia; her Royal Highness's was un the saute door w ith all the Household. 1 remember goiug from Tunis to Utica. Her Royal Highness went to the Pollee of the younger Prince, called Labelle. Witness was en board the pulacca during the voyage. There was a most com plete separation between the part of the polacca used by her Royal Hie,hisess mid suite, and that used by the Captain and crew. The Captain had no duty to perform iu that part of the ship which was oc. upted by her Royal Highness the Princess of Weles. I never saw the Captain iu that part of the vessel. 1 recollect our lauding at Ephesus. Her Itoyul Highness slept el/ the plains of Ephesus. She slept under a shed. The shed was open, and the suite slept all round be r. I slept round her among the rest. Sae dined that day iu the cherl b-yard, under the portico of an old mosque. I am convinced we all dined together. Li travelling from St. Jean d ' Acre to Jerusalem her Royal Highness rude on an ass. It is customary there to ride on nudes or asses, or in a paloru quip. We travelled by night. The Princess was excessively fatigued. She tell hum her ass room fatigue more than utter. On her return, the weather being extremely hot, she ordered a tout to be raised on deck, but she told sue, when infused that it retarded the progress of the ship, that she did not care about it. The 'reinstate pirates were feared, and the light in the tent was put out early in consequence. Iler Royal Highness, wheu she was informed it was necessary to put out the light, said I don't aunt it. I would as soon du with out it. Iter Royal highness slept on the deck under the tent, lii consequence of the excessive heat of the weather, and the smell of the annuals hi the hold. The witness knew that two Tunisian pirates had been seen, one of Ceyo, t.ad the other mar St. Jean d'Acre. Tile light was pit out every evening ut nine or leo lock. simiet iiut 5 tat her.— These were four sores on board the pulaceit—tauin the cabin of the Cottine:s of Oldi, and two iu the Princess's cabal. An alit rai ten took plaice in the course of the volit ; :,e One wits takeu fi inn s lie Comarss of (lid is cabin, and plueett upon deck under life lent. There was alaU aD Liislisu tra velling bed tinder the tent. It being four 'o'clock the House adjourned. EIGHTH DA Y OF THE DLFLNCE. W CON CSDAY, OCT. I I. The Lord Chancellor took his seat on the Wixilsack a few minutes before ten o'clock. Prayers were read. The list of Peers was called over in the usual manner. Counsel were then CAllcd in. Lieutenant ileumans was called to the Bar, and his examination re..unitsl by Mr. TYNDALL. [The continuation of this gentleman's examination and his cross•exatninatiun occupied the whole of the day, and we., not halted concluded whet the House adjourned. The consequent length of it obliges us to preserve only the points of importance.] You mentioned in your examination of yesterday, that there was a communication from Me tent below. Was it open by night as well as by day ?—The ladder was constantly down. have you had any opportunity, from going there, of knowing whether the communication was open or nut ?—1 have. On what orea,ion was !Mil—One evening, not knJwing the licrßoyal Highne,s hurl retired,l tan up thy ladder to go on deck, and did nut tind the tent closed. !lave you had any oc , :asien to go into her Royal Highness's tent previous to resuming your jouti.ey *e —We . always ditnal there previous to mu departure. Do you not know whether her Royal Highness was dressed or undressed during the time sli reposed e-1 do nut know whether she was ever undressed during the journey; 1 don't be lieve she was. State your grount'•s fur hdieving die was not undressed % Because I stever saw hity b; =1 clothes in the rent. Do you r‘collect luring the voyage, of a bath 'dying taken by her Royal Highness recollect that her Royal Highness d take baths on the voyage home. When the bath was taken, of what description was the tub or vessel which was used 9—lt was a common bathing tub, made at Augusta, by my orders. Was it of such a sire, that it could be put into her Royal Highness's cabin when her bed was down 9—l do not think it possible. During the time you was on board this vessel did you ever see her Royal I ltohntss sitting on as gun with Bergaini ?-1 never saw it Did you ever see than sitting on a bench, with her arm round Bcrgami, and Bergann's round her's /—Never. Did you ever see titian kissing each other I—Never. Did you ever perceive any impropriety ur indecency in , the conduct of the one towards the other while on board Never. Do you recollect Bergami dressing himself up in any particular way with pillows 9-1 do. State what circumstances you know respecting it 9—lt was done in derision of the English Consul, who came on board tit Jafih, in a gold-laced cocked hat, large cloak, and with a a big gold-headed cane. Was the Consul a man of a pompous figure 9—He was. Do you remember a person of the name of Alehoinet, who was on board 9-1 do. Do you recollect a dance performed by Mahomet 9-1 do. Was there any thing intlecay. or improper in that dance ?... Not in the least, more than in the Spanish bolero or the negro dance. Did you ever seeMahomet:perfomiing the same dance on shore? Frequently. At the end of the voyage did her Royal Highness land at Tetrachina Bergin, Camera, and I think Theodore Majoeci. Was the vessel bound to perform quarantine ?...We were not in port at that time. For what reason did the three persons land at Terrachina?... It was to obtain refreshments, in consequence of her Royal High. ness having been so long on board, anti betng ninth in need of them. In what maneer did they take leave of her Royal Highness 1 ...By kissing her Royal Higlinees's hand in a respectful manner. Did the whole three kiss hands 9...1 think they did. Nuw I put it to you, Sir, whether Bergami kissed her Royal Highness on that occasion ?... Kiss her face ! No, certainly not. Did her Royal Highness pay a visit to the liaro'll 9... After u short stay at Villa d'Este, her Royal Highness went to the Villa Barone. Wlust was the nature of the entertainments given by her Royal Highness at the Villa Barons ?...She gave none, except to the ratlines' daughters, and the persons of the household. Was that outing the time of the Carnivall...lt was. Did you not see at the entertainments given at the Villa Barone the wives of any person !...Yes, I have seen the wife of the Chevalier 'flioniasini and her daughter, the wile of l'ionseor Mochetti, and the wife of Baron —. Who was Thomasini 1... He was Prefect of Como for sonic years. Were the other persons in these entertainments residents in the neighbourhood /...Yes they were, with the exception of Prolessor Mochetti, who was from Como. Was the clergyman of the place there 1...110. was there fre quently. Did her Royal highness continue in the dancing-room, or in what manner did she conduct herself;... Her Royal Highness did not continue in the dancing-room, but chiefly in an adjoining room, and came in to see the dancers occasionally. Did you you yourself join in these dance. /...Always. Did her Royal liihlineas retire fur the evening before the dames were over !...Chiefly. Did you ever see, at these dances, any thing indecent or inde corous in the conduct of the persons there did not. Upon the various occasions that you have sseen her Royal highness during the time of your being with her, was she received at the different Courts, and visited by persons of the first dis tinction 9—At all, except Vienna. Who was the British Ambassador at Vienna at the time ? Lord Stewart. On those occasions, when her Royal Highness was so received at the respective Courts, what was her conduct and demeanour? —Every thing that was majesty and grace. flow was she treated at those Conies ?—With the greatest respect and attention. Do you remember her Royal Highness travelling from Ancona to Monte 9-1 do. Who was the courier on that occasion?-1 cannot say positiveys I think it was Cale. Do you remember a subsequent journey from Rome to Sene galia 9...1 do. In what carriage did her Royal highness travel ?...In an En glish landaulet. In what carriage did you travel yourself ?...In an English landau. Do you remember who accompanied you in the landau 9...1 think there was Seltiavini, Dumout, and her sister. Do you rember any thing happening to the Countess Oeli din ing the journey 9...1n the journey from Ancona to Rome, she was taken ill. Did her being ill occasion any alteration ?...Yes, she cliaiiged carsiages a the went into the luntlau, and Dumont weal into the Princots's landaulet. blow long have you been in the society of the Princess as part ' of her suite ?...Since the month el Aprd, 1813. Down to senat time ?...Down to the pie,ent time. Front April, 1515, to April, 11518, hare you been constantly living with her Royal nighties ?...Yes, I have. Durieg the whole of that time have you seen any thing in the conduct of her Royal Iliglinese tovartk Berganii, of 1)1 llergi.liit towards ;let lesyal Highness, that was improper, indecent, or degrading to her character 9...1 never :lid. What salary did you have ?...2( 01. a year. Does her ltoyel highness continue that salary to the present thnel...Slie dues. Cross-examined by the King's Attorney General. I have been a Lieutenant in the Navy since the year Bore.—.l had been six years in the Navy previously. idly father was iv the service of the Princess as Page. Idu nut know how long lie was in that service. He was all his life either in the service o f his prercnt Majesty, or the Princess Charlotte. Time Pr: eats of Wales interested herself much in my promotion. I wee neut.; Lieutenant in consequence of her goon offices. Do you not believe that Bergaiiii, on the return nom Jails, slept constantly unsex the tent 9...1 have heard and believe diet he slept under the tent. Now, believing that Bergen:li sleet under the tent, do you net think it degrading to her Royal Highness ?...No, I do not, 1 think it van nee s .ary that some one should b!itep near her, and I have heath al' inner persons sleeping there. You do not think that s sleeping under the tent was degrading to her 11..yrl llighuess a talalo.l ?...N is, I do not thiak it was. The crew of the pohacca was composed of Neapolitans and Sicilians. llalf Cie crew were upon deck during the night. ‘Vily did you think it necessmy that time Princess ~.lioulet have sumbenty step with her under the tent 1-1 considered that the Praicess sleeph.g on deck by herself would not It : at al l right. I had iievet tech any or those men Were Tsailed, enit knew nothing of their clieiacieis. Her Royal 110iness !i, s walked with me, with SChiaVilli, as well La oils licrgauu.... She Ma walked with other gentlemen who came to visit her. .t was appointed ot the Oid,r of tit. Careinie, 01 v h r ati Bergaint was Grand .Nlaster. Flynn, anoiber, Canters, and I believe Dr. : itiehetti, were shin appofft.‘" liasiglite of mat Order. S!0 •