The National Register. — London, England, 1815-04-23 00:00:00

frM L words from Mr. Elliot, the Host* divided on Sir John New aii•endment Noes, 99 ' • Ayes, b•.—Majority, Atter a few additional observations, in the course of which Mr. Vailittart said any attempt 'ln introduce modificatloas Would derange the whole nuchiliery of; he bill, leave was given to bring it in. Mr A men caOsial t, aft , r maintaining that the conduct of Ali; is. tern was must kilt roper, in not making more exteal w eirorts to keep liti e naparte within the island of Elba, especially as I y had received infermation that projects f o r his escape were made, moved an Ad. crass to rise Prince Regent for copies of, or extracts from any orders forwarded to our naval officers in the Mediterranean respecting the tuati n of Buonaparte at Ellie, and for copies ot any information re luting to Buonap.irteis intender escape. r ! CAsTi.zazAGH justified the conduct of Ministers, contending that we had no right to interfere in Elba, Buonaparte having its so. vereio t)natured to him by treaty, and enied that the Government had ever received any information touching the projects of Swim parteih.it were worth attending to. Mr Robinson and Mr. .Dooglas also justified Ministers: Mr. PoN•orear supported the motion. A most miserable defense had been made of conduct that was highly censurable. Atter further observations, the motion was negatived.—Adjourned. FRIDAY, APRIL n• • • • .1 N.4IPLEAL Air HORN ER asked, in cotiarliiener of the hostilities which had commenced on the part of Naples, wing was the state of the relations existilig between i King and Great Britain? Whether, in fact, thr h t iih ot this country was not pledged to secure the prescut King of Naoic , on his throne? Cairl.ttß,a lt.asusw ere d, that he would meet any motion . the Mile. Member might deem it right to make on the subject. Mr. Hon NKR deeineil this.. mode ot applying tantamount to an sairinatoni—( Heat, hear) Mit he JIOW gave notice that. on Tuesday se'nnight, he shidild submit to the House a motion on that subject. NEW TREATY OF 71IX ALLIED POWERS. On the motion that the 'Haase at its rising adjourn to Monday. Mr. WHITBREAD w6hed to ask the Nettie Lord (Castlereagh) 'oho, to be sure was not much in the habit of giving any direct answer* to questions. whether the document, purporting to be a Treaty which had been determined upon by the Allied Posters at Vienna on tire 45th of March. was not a deceit? Whatever might be the difficulties of the Ncible Lord to answer other question., ilo doubt w. 4041 immediately declare bush paper to be a scandalous forgei y ; for it wa. only some new days ago that it was stated war had not yet !wit ao.otistely resolvtd upon ; that the alternative still existed; toji•itueument were trite, that alternative could not exist at orb a rooment.—Hear. L rd CASTLEREAGH should. abstain from giving any answer, ex eepj the li e n. Nlember would. state that he asked for the purpose of moving some motion of advice- to the Crown. .Such an answer woukl be a practical justification to him to depart from the ordinary rules. Mr W trim eAn deemed this answer to admit the authenticity of this, and the other extraordinary documents that bad emanated Vieti , ..i; and that he should therefore call the attention of the Haase to it Lord CASTLEREAGH said, the expression of such a determination was api actreal justification to (limn from usual forms. He would admit that a Treaty had been agreed upon by the four Allied Powers on the day named in the document alluded t‘ , ; but such Treaty bad not yet been ratified, so that lie could not lay it 'Afore the House. The document adverted to by the Hou. Member was substantially true. • • Air. Wail nazas) replied, the BUMP now learnt what was sufficient to enable ii to form some opinion of what was now going on, that the eocument was aubltintially true. [Lord Castlereagh, acruis the table— "lt has substantial inaccoracies."J He was glad to hear so witch from the Noble Lord. fur he had thought it knposslide that any British Uinister could lout his band to so disgiaceful a document. He should therefore pause, till he learned what was contained in the perfect copy. That which had bfen priblaed to the world was of a most disgsueeful character and fatal tendency. Lard CasTtatizaciu interrupting Mr. W. conjured the Hon. Mem. bcr to pause, Ancllloi. at the same time that he was violating the prac tices-of the House use language that was calculated to distuib the har mony of those relations which existed between this Country and fo leign Powers (dear, hear.) Was the present a moment to endea -I•Jar to ;t00..• loose calumnies on our Allies, which was dune too by an ati)use of 111..111es of the Hitisc. cHeirr.) WuLialtsin replied, 'diet • ibsi:'ll:oble Lord, in calling him to titter, had hituse)f violated the Rules of the flause—(Heor,) , ,He IL4r..4ciccd.tliat 41 4 441c.:1 nvircctil is II:r 411- _.. r -.-..-,4., journment had been moved. and he was entitled to diseuesaite.proie Oaf of that preposition. As (Il his casting how •ee.acts of which he spoke could not be calumniate', ; ti A *or hits to apply language to them that truth could describe as cabs, Inoue, They set calumny at defiance.—(llto,r,)—eWlwit she N ble Loro ,in the . defence of order, Interrupted him in so disorderly a manner, he Res proceeding to state that be should do all in his power to slivrto so sl graceful and fatal a Treaty of its strength, by refuslog the st.ppl;cs which the Ministers might call for As the liable Loyd ' , void net allow them the opportunity of expressiug an opinion tat eons what they should deem good end wholesome advice to the Crown. in come. - quence of this Treaty, the only resource left was to refuse the suoftlic-ts Those who should concur in opiliion with him would /nsue Ile: stoats course. As Site Noble Lord lid told the House that the Tied.y not Jesen ratified, would he inform them whethcv It was inteodeo .o.ra tify it.—(Hear.) The House ougl,: also to know %%beater the Duke of Wellington, the Minister at Vienna on the pert of England, had „ito structjons to sign such Treaties. without previously catuniunicalog witit his Government at home. They ought to have some idea what those instructions were. Wouldllie Noble Lord give any inform iun•Qia that points The Noble Lord acknowledged that the Treaty was tubs stantially true, with the exception bi sense substantial . inaccuraciees-e <A laugh.) Would hr allow the Treaty to be laid belae the-4100W) is I perfect form, or sit some form, that would authorise a questiou to to raised on it Or if that could not be done, would he point out the aufs• &tenni! inaccOracios ? If this course were out agreed to, he shou;d lead himself strengthened in the resolution which he had expressed, to °as pose the granting of either the money or the confidence of the coutioye to the Noble Lord or any of his colleacues.--o(heat.) Lord CASTLERIAGH said. he had not complanied of the Hon. Member for abusing the orders of the Honse-‘ -he complained ofhip being about to enter into that sort of observation on the treaty, which could lead to no practical benetite..i(hear.) That was a e owns of proceeding to which he could not hat complain. As to whether the British Goveroutent would consent to rattly tier rreiity. he seat) no hesitation to state that the Prince Regent "Toad ratified it, as eompauying such ratificatien with a declaration respeetthg One elf the articles of the treaty. On the (testy being regularly ratified, he could have no objection to lay it before the Home. Mr. WHITBREAD cunivlained that the opinion of the House could neither he of nee nor value, except it were given slow; and that,, according to th e 'Noble Lortistoodeof proceeding as yet, the Iloti‘e could offer no advice whether it•woultthe advisable to involve this country in another 'war. 'to agree with the Noble Lord, Vey e.outtl first involve the country in a war, and thee institute etirtutia into the policy of such war. (Hear.) He was quite awe tied the Howse would nut grant tutiney in support of such principles—that it won't pause before it recognised so foolish and so fatal a treaty. Lord A. Hemit.mv observed that the Noble Lord had proodaed the Honse to lay before it the proceedings of Congress : but tf mean proceedines were not produced till after a new war had commenced. they would arrive much too late. Mr. PONSONBY begged to learn of The Noble Lord, whether (hie new Treaty could be laid before the House in s u ch a toot, and on an early a day that Parliament might within a abort period have 'tot opportunity of expressing an opinion on it. it was most essential to know this. A. to the treaty, lie would no.t trust himself to.wies press those feelings whirls the reading of it gave rise to; bet till ler heard the Noble Lord's recognition of it, he did not think it possi ble that It could be a genuine document. • (Hear.)-I.e could not bring himself to believe that any British Minister could be induced, tinder any circumstances, to put his baud, an the part of Lis come. try, to such a document. If the Noble Lord would not agree ro the production of the Treaty in such a form that the House img:i take it into eonsitleration—that it might advise the Crown respyc:. lug it, should advice be decimal necessary, he should take ids nuns course MI no very distant day. ord•Casvegue %Gil did not know altar the Right Hon. Member meant by Isis own c‘airse. If lie thought the 'Ft eaty • ught to he the subject of a motion, lit could proceed on 'it as he Motel it; but it would be quite new, and most tuipmliamentaiy. tq hulmiit to the as House ail tthriltifleil Treaty, and thew ask its ads ire respectieg measure that might not receive the ranch ut of the partie. t.. it , . _ .Ministers had received the sanction of the fio,u-e to w . the constitutional privilege adopt pr:Tantionary step.; but it of the Crown to determine on the question of peace or wisr. fj should deem it not only unc,ostitutiosial, but most pitsill.wite ,, a4, is the Ministers, to attempt to draw film] P its tosectionio adept a course of war. The q uestion of war rested with the Crows and its advisers, and Omit. avises s were responsible to the Partia. anent awl to the Country for tV :advice they might gke; that ra... oas the cenAitutikolat; of brut linos and the r