The National Register. — London, England, 1821-04-22 00:00:00

I • • w. the very language of the bill then upon their table. The Loble eati had mentioned the opinions in favour of such a vitreous yowl:anted by Mr. Pitt and other high autho rities. There lived not u wan who bad a stronger regard for the late Mr. Pitt than himself; and after the union with Ireland, lie never would have differed from him oo the subject of Uouran Catholics, had he net been per ended that great lona took an erroneous view of the sub jects. He never did hear nor ever could %mix from him, what were the securities he proposed fu ri the safety of the Protestant government and Protestant church. It .pleased Divine Providence to take that Mealtime states, 4. anan, and another great man, then in the home, for whom Le had the strongest friendship (Lord Grenville), because i l dhe friend of the measure. He. asked the house after all, ;Nether they had not come to this:—that they were to ' 'stake eancessit.itas without any securities?—(Hear, hear, from Lord Grenville.) He should be ready to hear the noble lord. 1f they had secnritics, he was quite ready to admit they creed to . pa,s such a bill. One of the first duties of statesmen was to take care of the religion uf ' the country. They bed been told to look at political 'natives only, but his opinion was, that the established elision of the country was one of The greatest political rbjects they had to consider. If this 'happy land had etetunately adopted a system of church gover n ment, the Agellslest recognised in any church io thiewurld, the 'nem ' bare of that church were bound iu duty to secure civil • liberty. They could not pass the bill without repealing the test andr - eorporatioo acts, which, in the opinion of the greatest lawyers, where the shield and protection of the constitution. The bill before the house went to te pee! the Supremacy Act ; as well might they destroy the Bill of Rights. Magna Charts, and other securities upon which the eon/Motion was hounded. The oath of alle giance in the bill gave no security. Why was the Pro. testant to give a stronger oath than the itoman Catholic? The Protestant shore the Pope had no authority at all.— The Catholic swore with a reservation on that point. Lord GREN VILLE, in a speech of eraisiderable length, abounding in force of argument and eloquence, supported the bill, and contended that nu dodger to the established reli gion could arise from granting the Catholic claitus, whilst' touch public good w mild result from that measur e. Lord LIVERPOOL could not conscientiously give his support to this measure, consistent with he safety of the established refigiaa. The noble earl took the seine line of orgaeseut molest the bill as the Lord Chancellor had pre viously dime. The Marquis of LAIISDOWNE said, the time was now arrived at a hich, in bk opinion, they might, without any danger to the estabeidnisept, grant to the Catholics their claims, and by so doing unite the talent and increase the strength of the Empire at large. Lord SID MOUTH oppontii the l mot too. Lords Melville, Ashburton, mad Sweep supported the bill. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the house divided n when there appearit.. For the second read' 4.... . 5.-120 Aphat it t. Melority Adjoaroed at half-past three. IVEDNESDATEL The bank cash payments bill, • charitable lands transfer bill, pass e d throolli ooramitt !et4t were ,reported without amendment. Adjourb..d, , 711rUBDAY, APRIL 19. The royal olsent was 4iven by . eorranivion to the beer duties' bill, the innksvers' bill, the I. sh law of treason amendment bill, end about may private bills. The commissioners were, the Margot , . of Cholmonuley, the Lord Chancellor, and the Earl of lithafteskury.. The ) onion grs light end coke bill, end two others, were brought up WM the Curnmons ritd read the first time. Mr. llul;ock •resented rmo-it of the addition wade to the public debt tiu).nl the last ten yei:rs, on the otetion oldie Karl of Shaftesbury, the hoot) adjouroed Tuestlsy the Ist of May: HOUSE OF COMMONS. _ awhpaY. APRIL 16. Mr. S. C. WHITBREII) presented a petition from freeholders of Middlesex, preying for parliamentary reform. Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW presented u bill to tepee! the awry lasts, Reed et brit time, and ordered to be tead sccraul time May In. Mr. M. A. TAILOR. gave notice, that on May :10, he should submit a InUilDik to amend the mode of administering justice in the Court of Chancery, also of enforcing the tippet loot jurisdiction in the house. Mr, SVIC Eli presented a petition from the ship owners of Pia) IoC for a relict, of the tsuol-tax---a duly which he considered mow illiU/1011; 11l the eeiteta: hitcrests or the counirs, He lamented that none of the Dunham: were pre. km to hear this petition read, became it well merited pecu late nitration, Petition ordered to be printed. !atilt Itsicoaa LAMIITON presented petilieo front lOU 'umlauts, cc. of lielfrst. The pe 4 i• tam pi e ) eo KeurrialiY tor retorts, urgiuA, that ins petitioner. did MA rosisider the house to speak the 's papillae voice," mid they lumemed the 4, rumours' that were ciieulated, that 4 " 3 errs btaight nud sold, and thnt ministerial majorities acre I.nel:eft by placemeo, Petition read, Besides praying for reform, It liken Ise solicit fur the restoration of the Queen to hat rights. It alto aid that whams in lieiftwt made the rrturu to the writ, stitiou ordered to Iry minted. Nu 'l44ot.—Mr. ELLICE presented it petition Irma turrolniuts Ltoidim, tract Mg to Galindo, stating that oltecathal a the timber duties would Jubjeci theitt to ruinous dithcilltieg. which would prevent them Irmo 'Dolling the customary returns. Ile r spa'ted the portico- attention of lito chairman of the arieulturi,l coalmine , " (Mr, (ionch) to pentium for !ha 'morns 4.1 Clint trout 4.41.44 Were out likely to allect Igo Eilijich grower. There 11 ;`' U dillerenco in 4,44ality and :spense of near W.. hens eei. the Card of kurland and that e!' Vanadlt. pi ideetiuu enough to the Euelioli granerat any re.trictiuu 04041.1 lie to the corn growers of Canada, Lind MILTON said, lie hoped fur a report soon rim the tt'lumillse on agrieuliu.e. lie also trusted Mal the list short Could lain the committee's opiaio.a., for lit an d:4l.lmM thul !heir empiric. had brew primal ity din eted to the e4lelll pfit.luni ui , tars. the tanners. lie con. sluded with o.kist; rot Iwo. Omit:nail, when a tqui ho 'specie& bli,(401)01 Rimed, be app:citusided that soon after the holidays they should be p reput t l with a repot,. sir. NARK AT Guppultvi she tielitiblk With the p i e' 'be colonists could not elitist. Mit Cl. BLN N T t h at Ole point at time was. that I few inirrrsiod Oat 41 shipping ltuars.l,," re. Ii„ Iced the boon or ttpt, is y,.;11-. his oallcil Om titiatasy v41114361%44 is, UMW (hair stotot agouti% Ow att. min :; o I I, • ' THE NATIONAL AEG& sR Ire hoped they were not so " besotted and stupid as sot to have some 'regard to time real interests of the eouutry. ' Petitiou referred to the committee nit agriculture. The Holyhead Road Rill was read a third time and passed. Mr. Sergeant ONSLOW moved the recood reading of the Attorneys and Solicitors' Admission Bill.—Read a second time, and ordered to be committed May 4. The, Bills of Exchange Bill 'Was read a second time, and ordered to be committed May 4. Sir•T. RARING asked whether the chairman of the audit office had signified his intention to resign; sod whether it was in coutcopiation to appoint the son of a Goble lord as the successor. The CHANCELLOR oftbe EXCHEQUER replied that the chairozau had signified his desire to resign ; but as to any successor he was not prepared with an answer. hfr. IVALLACE moved that the how go into a commit tee on the 'Timber Duties' Acts. Mr. J. P. GRANT said he had to propose some alteration of Mr. Wallace's piopusittoos—a different scale of dutica.— According to the proposed scale 11100,000 i. would annually go out of time pockets of the people of England to support the culoilies, without there beingsmy chance of the slightest retm u. The effect of the measure would be to pay 50 per cent: more for colonial timber than Norway timber could be procured fort :w.icleb intoning &drawback of 140,001:. to Russia, and 460,0001. to Canada. Were the Chancellor of the Exchequer's tiouncelo—especially as he could not gist up any trifling tax—its such a condition as to afford the portunity of being *WS efle concluded with moving, that the house again resolve into a committee tt. consider Go !her of the timber duties. The amendment of Mr. Grant was then negatived. The house went into u committee. The several clauses of the bill werningreed to, and M r. W ALLACL.rouved that the report should be received to-morrow. Attsiv ESTISATEI6—The house wept into a committee of simply. Ou the item granting 10,5111. for certolo departments in Ireland. Mr. 111:51 E proposed to redeili the vote to 70001. After some observations front M. lienurtt, Mr. Garton, Co!. DaCfROCC. theriticd--fole the amendment 45 I Against itl/9 Majority fair the original sum 54. On the resolution"for grantiot 27,11341. fur medicatie ' Cul. i/AVI ES proposed to redatethetrote to 22,5311. After some conversation the gallery was clear,4l fur a division. Far the reductions 9 I Against it 199 lAlaiority 50. The committee again divided on the proposk for re during the vote by 50001. For the amendment SS I Against it 110 I Majority for the original sum 52. After some further diseursiou the house adjourned. T UEBDAY, APRIL 17. Mr. COKE presented a petition. in the absence of an booms. blefriend (Sir A. Rowley) from Suffolk, ri4 by between 10 and 11,(x 3 pet sons, praying for Reform. Ha amurai in thin rentitnents of the petition. Lord Chatham amid, if there wart notlßeform from within,* would coMe from without with a vengeance. 51z. Pitt had expressed ainsilar send:mats—but he afterwards became 51inister, so him this country owed all the evils it laboured under. T here must be a change of system; and had there not been some seven pinching, there would have heen no petition from Suffolk. With a change of si stein thcy would nut have had the Holy or right. the " Infernal" Altiance. (Cheers.) Mr. GOOCH denied that it contained the sentiments of the majority of the nubiliy, gentry, and clergy of Suffolk. On the contrary, he deemed it a l.bel on their sentiments. Mr. ‘VESTERN defended the petition, as having been to at a must respectable meeting. It was properly convene7, ni and why lied not the hon. member sal his friends attended the meet lag ? No; they cho , e to have their counter declaration, expres sive of support of and confidence in his Majesty's lint so tar from being ID or 11,000 ai , m4tures, it had not so many hundreds. The noblemen who ai,ue lit were chiefly receiving tmoluiutnt from the government. One fifth of the dedaratiunists were clergymen who lid signer% whose example had not been to: owel uy any one of their flocks. He consitiereil the petition faiily end fully to etoress the sentiments of the county. Petition tc'l, and ordered to be printed. l'citions were irerented proving fur Ref mu, Northemp. ton, Tavi--tock. Devor .hire, Plymouth, Huntingdon, Holibril. Lincolnshire, Isle of Ely, Cumbalund, Nottingfiain, Borough of Southwark, Mr. WEST ERN moved for returns of the exports of woollen cloths, and other papers illustrative of the state of the woollen (note.—Ortkred. The Ipswich gas light bill WU read asecond time, and ordered to be committed. Mr. W. SAIIT if moved fur leave to bring in a Bill to amend the 15th of Geo. ill. iOr the improvement.. of Westntimiter, as far as related to the Woes of money, &,e. for the buildings about Westminster Hell and in the neighbourhood of both Houses of Yrrhoment. Leave elven. Bill hrott- i ht in, real a first time, arid ordered to be read a gerund time end to be printed. The Ilituie went it' to a Committee on the asiened taxes acts. Mr. LlJ'r.:ll INGTON a, .1, it wrs his intention to propose a continuation of the cornuountling of the window duti:ie lot six years Muter—of t'its duties on servants for three years—of the laittiage duties ti . .'tree years, vol intone afire A totoor vet. The House went tout a committee on rite metropolis prison and rallee fees i cis. Mr. 11. (*LIVE, in moving that the chairman apply for leave to bring In a bill to eontinue the existing acts. Ins alterations were to consolidate the two seta into one I and to remove the pollee office at present held in Shadwell to the Not th•west part of the metropolis in diary-le-bone; ri.:a to place the parish coo • i•sales totter the cuittrool of the police inogistni.es; and to ef , gulate the oppeunitl and shutting up of the colfee shops. Mr. G. BEN NBT'I' ho t ted, that the ;gentle!' of the House wpu,nl be direet'd to this motion, as the proposed measure wrs o. uuvreatot importance. Tile pay of the consti.bles requited .estti:ouisi many bid only pay from winkl,i-f at frauds. Ile loath: propose a regulation respeuting the Be ;using sycent.— Ile hrd emend a 4111 throulit diet house to regulate that system of lice tying, but it wrs thrown out 'ay the house, who did not even deign to rot it, lie hoped, as there were ..ucit serious abo-e., that the precept tail would Nutisluva :or nos year ; t; at its the interim there would be a secret vernmittec; fur lie was authorised by ntrilittatea to ay, that it' they enu'd give their svitieitee with eutthdeats, it' they trould sp c it'A out, titcy would ,pen _oe'i setae ' Ste would tirtrtic the house r t the inipeifections et the rs'ite ey.oein, Ir. tl, .%• TAYLOR said, with emit pri.nne re they bed at present, bibs would be undeze. They derietl creiy thing tilat cl Citation and if nay u:sti *cut to pti.uu now. to tvr 1; orgy week fur 14 4.'440. he, would coioc out lieu tiine: worm; tlvii he went into otifatt.—alutiouagrccd, and leave after writs chtiiin I to ltrinkin a h'll ('err IA t:‘: Y I.A u'l'ON then rase. itOrrtirOt to :NOM, to bring forwerd ihie motion. Tine house xt tne itine was very full, particularly the t iviiontion side of it. He • .raw to detail the ot•t or thy tepsesentrtios, as ate trust au..gris at rlt o ying tint public thicoutaat t as was paved by Coe irtv sit the (Clicer) Inducd lit: tior i bt cou6wie now . with itlvan'tve. fa he te,!, stiiimicilea be core...cable Lumbers. who rebid beat the Idiotism few ton the upyoute Ott the Tscamay _ - Ct . "". It 3 • bench there were only right boo. " twins, (llethurst mid Was sittert were the only members there, initeliore owe Wiwi of three members on die next bench). and ensameing wee amen. p.etely enouli the joint representatives dells epee dendemlit .1-breach. (Much Weber.) He know not whither the appearance of chamber side of the base was mew as an hank to him 1 if it were, be 0111 r. L.).theed4 Sepias k. whin 4 1141 ......_. intend. to show the sonny the edimenee wits wen moy Leaned the question of engem, he trusted the Us wend aim be lost uroo the country. (11w. bear.) The bee. vagadier ihu went on to state, that he bad embodied -his plan of Wien in a bill, which he should introdoce, if the Moues gam ban lane; that he had pursued this mune. Wawa it me a Awe seam reformers that they were fs =eit with fleet had hie plan IMO to extend the to ar. with ers as well rs freeholdera—to glee tbe pat el _ ,„*.l= lll, ' co r., to re-carte triennial Pte . he. _ • anonsil. Is the first place diet the Wise iseelve bee • eimeE r take into - *awe el the rename*. 4:- - Mr. S. C. WHITBREAD wooded the otiothi, . supporting the necessity of reform. It was, he WC = that many seats were obteined by means which. if would cause the expeision of the members; and yet the hews was tenacious in defending the pinky of its character. It often reminded him of the femele with whom any liberty might be taken, except that of charging her with her frailty. (Hear and loughter.) Mr. HORHOUSE contended, that to ihange the form of the reprettentatioli would be no innovation. Path: anent had already changed its form, its number, its form of elation, and its durrtiun. Influence was now overwhelming; 71 pens and 91 commoners returned a majority of the house, and a house thus constituted could not be said to represent the people. . Mr. H. 'f WISS opposed the ntotion—the borough influence. it iris acknolt i ed. rebirivd only Ls 7 members. This number wee but a smell proportion of tue whole body. • He opposed telennial p.;rhainents. which he acid would produce (ileum/tin ken cace in two years. end would be injulious.to the people, by rtmg the public mind in a continual state of ferment- -he ed on the home to paosabefore they attempted a change in tystein; tinder which we had attained the high position we sow held in Europe. Sir It. WII .SON contended that the people hi d a right to a change and mewl in theirprerninent ; such a change as was called fur by change of circumstance:, increased . property and and the prowess of knowledge, and wider that impression he would support the motion. ba, Mr. ABERCUDAiIiIe: could not go to the extent of the pres ~ sent motion. lie would agrce to reform as f AI wee safe and t, and he considered the Wes n we get to adept was that with regard to Graimonmad, to Me the sight of rengentation from decayed boroughs. and give =nous Meet' still preset rig; our oonetitadenol flame Awls BURY justibed the reheene hem the deep of elese.nekr e and dioloyalty which had been urged • yen them if •—•••.'" lan. Inn OK watlily granted, 50 years of .011inelle mg Ws. wierement wend meet with a dreadful renibutise. Rehm rimed bone, and come to teach the portioning the' uses for which • i it had hem instituted.' i , Mr. F. n PieLNIER we. in CAW, the wads& . . Mr.:. Wdrtley. Mr. Martin, Mr. R. Millen,, end Mr. ..Honywot I op! 1 I. tit. ' • * The CII A. 'CE I. LOR of the EXCHEQUER Nee for the purpose of moving an adjournment of the debate until Widnes. day. The ed , ourinuent was agreed to. The other w - ticus of the day were the. dimmed ef aleo she house adjourned. , , .. WEDNESDAY. APRIL IL Mr. HOL MES moved a new writ for theammen Dees. hi he room of Lord Castlereagh. now Marquis of • v The St. Luke's, angel. pour rem bill was re l lt ill &gleee and mwd. The Manchester water web boll was read a tided dee mid. praised. Petitions were presented hem Conebeelen2Madelbr —Colchester—and the Hundred of lappert. Ewe. of agricultural distress. Read =devalued to bipthisid. Mr. D. GILBERT brought up die mew of the Mateopelle - • load bill, ' i Mr. CURWEN said, that at the bill was 4. 1 1.1161,11111111111 from what it was, he hoped it wanbi cot be primed de e( the present session. e Mr. D. GILBERT could net mein to _withdrew the sin '. now. It was of great importance , end bad t h e approbation armor to many p .:ties.— Bill ordered to be reoleasoeiteni Meg f. ...% ,veir , ii Mr. HON Y WOOD presented *Widen hoe she Hanged Of ':', r 8 . .. ^ltheetli, praying die house to adw e nsaisares PO Velleff . to to i 'le exercise of all ri , Jits. cwteber . whu he had before asserted, that the rge 1134;11311er AI PjeSty were altogether ummilled Ow end umlumitheth. Read. and ordered to be prinael. SEAM ENG IN ii,9.•Mr. M. A. TAYLOR brim& hewed his motion tespec in g the measure to abate the whew* by ewe emjnes. to • impel them to eignmune their we seethe. Vibes they existed as nuisances, it was its. they were pieggeond be law ; but it ought to be known diet meek poseeut ware resat . expeacive, and that costs were est chained except a foam* et:abet could be procured. The needialdlite of the Wen • had been proved by evidence adduced Wan den krone. lie hut:Aced cases were the smoke was so ineesendl) minguee ewe . . ' the Chutneys could hardly be discovered of the hewn Weep . ing to certian steam engines—p-rtioularly Mr. id W. . wick, some engines at Birmingham, antsthe treks 1r at to the Lambeth water Aeupeny• At row. Li etc. were literally butted in woke, ent the !WIW I'S % nee,ilie Cult via practicable, beaten th ey WI the wow PORI an ee l .we The law was comcr. but the het was. Int *we . PAS no looney to He eandmied wish for leave to bring I =o, ender IllabliOL he the aIIUI63IICOS arising hip Own mews. The bill wag swey shoe, • in training it lie bad hen anted by the bee. menew he Peterborough. Mr. SCAR LETT E tenid the motion, Mr. TB F: IA TN wooed the ROW that the net be extended to steam engines in the barren parts cil lt = Mr. D. GILBERT hoped the bill would not he made SO general; as far ar regarded large towns in particular. it would. be moat valuable. Sir M. W. RIDLEY epolre of the praeticabthty of the scheme. and hoped the bill might be allowed to be brought in. H e was ascpuunted with some large outcome where the smoke had been entirely destroyed. I Mr. Goelfell, Mr. S. Wortley. Mr. Curwen. and Mr. AM. Wood, also supported the bill, but expressed the hope that it would out be made to., general. It wig - litho awn useful in large towm. Mr. M. A. TAy LOH re flied. Ile said, if th e vie ws o f some hon. members, were adopted, it would be better that he should *Wien :Mot Inhiging forward the bill. If the hill were not to be turtle general lie shuold .edy be doing mischief Ile was nut ' &Wing all new law; ht a:l4, only dee6ring the old law, at the tame dine :Molding further faeilMes to carry it into execution.... Motion e:40.e41 to. Mr. St.\ 111.EIT gave notice, Met on the nth of May he should tome tor leave to Ming in a bill to alter the laws relating a die relief of the tuna. Mr. .1. S•MITII gevo notice. that soon after the holidays he rhombi wove tor leave to bring its a bill to alter and amend the lees re,peoting the emir of bread. ea r rt. r.—Lord PA I.NIEttSTON moved that the booms e* into a committee of supply. notion agreed to. lord PAL AIt.:RS . I'ON • in the committee. then moved the _.r.,..t.., of 75 - „ouul.for lialf!oly ; atit,uted.for military allowances, 0. a.--Agre,Nl w. ( Fur cuutineat.un see rag,: It 6. i • 2. • .4 r , 7 i ): 1, 1 Ili ''4' 4 , , , , , 4 , ~:~