The National Register. — London, England, 1812-04-19 00:00:00

i ID giNIII '2 t 0 were. If this were not the case, the men might be all intercepted in C, way to their horse-barracks. As to Bristol and Liverpool, they we re. both populous places, and ports for the debarkation of troops h. t this country and Ireland ;it was therefore better to have per nialieht barracks than temiauall ones. retu:Ao deprecated the measure as unconstitutionaka rst nd oppryssive to the liberties of t he people. This was probably the fi tine a Minister had been heard to declare that troops were necessary to c. nit rot the rpulation of the country. Bristol was a populous city; and, therefore, according to him, it was necessary to erect barracks there. • 'I he 63111:: he had said wtth regard to Liverpool; and hence it vas to be concluded, that the main object of building barracks and plitcitig troops in these towns, was to overawe and control the people. An Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Huskisson) had recommended that some of the empty warehouses should b purchased for the accommodation of the troops. Nothing was ever more appropriate than tl:le advice. It would h': th- perfect climax of consistency, that the Minister, whose cominercial system bad rendered useless the loom of the manufacturer, had etoptit d the warehouses of the merchant, and by inducing starva tion. had filled the people with discontent, should now till the ware hots,e,, with soldiers, to repress the murmurs of discontent, and control those whom his measures had itri:a:ed to madness. The system which the Hon- Gentleman was pursuing, was of a nature s.) profuse and extravagant, that it would, by destroying the resources of the country, induce the necessity of peace by submission. The CuaNcituant of the Excunue.a reprobated the language used by Mr. Whitbread, as tending to turn the discontents of the people into an abamivable current against their Government, instead of rowing them against an enemy who meditated the destruction of all that was dear to us a nation —( Hear, hear ! ) Nlr. WIIIII3II.EAD rose with considerable warmth, and said the Right Hon. Gent. had gr ;ssly misrepresented him , and th a t his friends in that Hou=e were alt ays rea d yto she, r him in his misrep resentations. If an adventurer from the bar was to be brought into the House, to get into power. and to take place when no other man could be found to accept of it, as would be apparent from a letter signed 44 Spencer Perceval"— (Pere th , :re Ws re loud cries of Order, urikr and a great tumult ar-se, which h..viug subsided), Mr. Whitbread apologised for the warmth of his L xpve, , ,iuug, and concluded with expressing his regret, that the in eh;tnan; fee Bops which he experienced at the assertion that be winced to pro-tr this country to Fiance, should have impelled him to commit ALE! a breach of the order of the House. I'i.e Chancellor of the Exchequer replied to Mr. Whithread, and Tklr. St:plten r. Ponsonby spoke at considerable length, principally on th••• m rits and (!....,merits of the Ord.!rs iu toured. (Ad not undcrst tid how Farracks and Orders in Coun cil tdir.b!..:'. L,.ether in one chbate. The person who linTed i.; !)rill r , Comer: toast be mighty ingcl,!,;us. Inonc word ex wit.)l.• Look to France and the West Indic: : Surar 5'•i!1i•.:.7.4 t - er pound in France; and all the wi3eacr.:s had cried ot:t, 01, de..r Uo.i! let us all run with our sugars to France. But this was all a cheat. sat , naparte only wanted Ili aril sugar, and other sugar f!- , cn G.:l I- iiews v. hr . Let England wild her own bottom, and Pounrr, are I.loit • e best for ships and sti!;ars and colonies, gets:' all Thcy quarrelled wit!, two fellows pumping. hut 14- it 1,- t in pump away—Old Itx;:,l,.iid Fr:mce tor ever. 'll.c Hun ci.ine to a division, when there appeared in favour of the Earr.l , :ll estimate,. SS; against then. 40. he Report was theu brought up, and ordered to be received totmorrow.—Adjourned. TUESDAY, APRIL 14. Teti•fons were presented from the nierch.aits and manufacturers of St7tror 141. ire, and the ‘Vest of Yorkshire, against the Orders in C • Atri Mr. P. CAlt ENV moved far leave to bring in a Bill for the better car rying into ftrt;ct. the 1 egulations existing for improving Turnpike Roads, to make further provisions for the preservation thercof.—Leave given. COLONF.T. Mr. W. WyNNr. rose to sulAnit to the Horse a motion upon the sub ject of t!.e recent appointment of Colonel M‘Malion to the situation of Puicate Sccreary to the Prince Regent. He stated, that when a new .t • created for which there was no precedent in the constitutional history of the country, it was natural to enquire into the nature of the duties of that office, and the qualifications that were necessary for their discharge. l'he only information of which the country was in posses st(:n with respect to the present was the Gazette account of the appoint ment of Colntel Nl'Mahon to the above-mentioned office. The House bad a right to he informed with minute exactness of the duties of the situation. Was Colonel M‘Malion now to be understood as holding tie place of a Cabinet Minister. or a simple amanuensis? was he to he c itisidered, in conjunction with his Majesty's Ministers, as responsible a- the acts of the Crown, or as merely rendering private domestic as sistance to his Royal Highness. What necessity had the Prince Regent for a private Secr,!ary, when it was known that his ?Oak sty performed the Royal tuncv,ons forty year; without one, and would not, at the end of that pe, ii tl have th .ught one necessary, but f.r his blindness and .rions disorders, troni st Well his R , val Highness was totally exempted. 'Vie excuse Gentlein , ti had to utter for the creation of this office was, tkat, liatl of Lox years s . c.rely a private Secre- TUT', NATIONAL REGISTF,R. APRIL 19 tart' could r.ot facilitate public concerns. He could not put the Royal Signature, or be a means of comm unication front the Cabinet to the Crown. Was it because Colonel MiMahon was a Privy Counsellor, that he should be selected to fill a situation of this kind ? If it was meant that he should be the bearer of those official co mmunications between the Prince Regent and his Ministers, would it not be his duty, in case he bore communications of a bad and unconstitutional tendency, to con sider himself invested with his oblig;tions as Privy Councillor, and ad vise his Royal Highness against them. What then would be the situa tion of Colunel M‘l'liahon ? Would not his duty as a public and private officer clash, and the rerformance of the duties of one rer. Colonel lion rewarded by one of the offices of the Household ? 'l'll,- indignation of the country was evident upon the occasion of this appointment. Po. pular clamour wits what he (Mr. W. Wynne) despised, but public opi nion was a very different thing, and should 1,..ve great iefluence upon their decisions. If the situation of Privy Purse was not .ufficient for Colonel M' Mahon, he might have been appointed one of the F.querries. After some further observations, h e concluded moviog for " a Cn. , y of the Instnnuent by w hichonel Ik.l‘lV ahem was appointed to the situation of Private Secretary to his Royal Highness the Prince Regent, in the name and on the behalf of his Majesty. Lord CASTLERE.IGII opposed the motion. There had been ru prin ciples stated upon which to ground such a :notion. lf, indeed, it had been the intention of the Hon. Gentleman to propose a char). ...inst Ministers for the measure against which be declaimed. there :eight have been some reason for proceeding in that manlier, but the document moved for could not in the slightest degree operate t> per any effect, except th...t of a ff ording ground for an ulterior measure. The si tuation to which Col. Mqvlahon was appointed, was by no means one of public responsibility. On the contrary, it was impossible front the nature of it, that he should act in a public or political manner. His functions were distinctly opuostte. The great encrease of business ren dered it indispensably necessary that his Royal Highness should have some assistance; ithout a Secretary he would be overwhelmed by the papers brought to him fur his signature. he necessity of the app oints went toed on as good grounds as the constitutionality of it. A long debate followed, in which Mr. Perceval, Mr. Whitbread, Mr. Pomo:maw, &c. spoke. A division having tc.!.cen place, the numbers were, Ayes 100, Noes 176, Majority ag,inst Mr. Wynne's motion, 76.--Adjournech wcnNF.SDAY, Anil. 15. Air. MELLISK presented a Petition from certain Ship-builders and CatOkers, of the port of London, isgalitst the encouragement of ship buiiriin in the Est Indies.—Ordered to lie on the Table. Mr. 1-luTeitiN sow presented a Petition front the Catholics of the county of Cork, prayitig the removal of the civil disabilities under which they labour.—Ordered to lie on the Table . Mr. er AND postponed his motion respecting Parliamentary Rc• foe in, which :towel for to xt Tuesday, till Tuesday, the Stith of April. Sir Jon Nrwroe r, after remarking on the number of defa lcations of late suet:titled by the Public from teir servants, moved, that the Committee of Public Exi , enditure he instructed to examine into the prei-ciit state of accounts, aral the balances of money due to the Public, :old laefore the l louse on abstract of the same, and their opinions thereo y n ; b and that they shouhi Aate what balances were irrecoverable, Sec.—The motion was agreed to. The Hon. Mr. BENNtT r roie, pursuant to notice, to call the attention of the House to the system of military flogging. The lion. Gentleman observed, that the yractice was disgraceful to our military. code, as well as to the nation in which it was suffered to take place. He believed that no set of meu, if put to the task, could devise a more effectual mode of tormenting our fellow-creatures. The feelings of the people were so sifected on seeing it inflicted upon their fellow-creature s, that it was always dune in holes and corners, and other obsciire places, under the guard of a military body. It was the height of injustice to sauction it, becaose the degree of it must necessarily vary, acco rding to the tempers and dispositions of the Commanding Officers, and no con sideration whatever was made of the difference of const i t ution of the different men who were doomed to suffer it. These facts being uncon tradicted, he could see no objection that could be made to hits motion, 44 f hat there be laid before the 1-louse an Account of the number of Persoos who had suffered corporal punishment in the regular Army and Militia, during the last seven year..' Mr. M. SUTToN opposed the mutton, as tending to unsettle the mill. tary mind, and lead the army to believe that there m ost be grievaeces, though to them unknown , w hich caused the subject to be so o ften tated. From a regulation recently established by the Commander red ill Chief, all cases of more gra ve o ff ences were, in future, to be refer to General Courts Martial, and those of a lighter nature to be left to Regieiental Courts Martial. Sir Lurclett, Sir Samuel Romilly , and Mr. Brougham, svzstmllT ad- Sir the cause of humanity, in endeavouring to imp ress oil the Bonne the necessity of abolishing so inhuman a pun ishment. 'rite last teeti tiouecl Gentleman said, he had a boo k in his possession, containivg account of the puttisltratitts inflicted on board a ship of war, es Lice he would not name, so lately as the year 1809, and kept, as was tiontoll the Master-at-Arms. by this it alp- .e that, in the coarse of sic • moothe, 1.1,00 or IiS a COO lashes had been inflicted on different persoes. r