The National Register. — London, England, 1809-02-05 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL REGISTER. The Llll sr f v POOL said, that the Treaty would he sub- , mined to tneir Lordships as soon as the, ratifications were ex chan:!ed. ire ofiserred, nu eves-t had happened to make any difference in it►; stipulations; and al.°, that no event had occur red which ought to cause a ditll'rence in the exertions which it would have been proper for this country to make in assisting Spain against the common enemy.—Adjourued. FaIDA Y, FEU. 3. IMPRISONMENT FOR DEBT. The Earl of Mo tax gave notice for Thursday of his motion for a Coininitten to rousicler the practice of Imprisontucnt for Debt.—Adjourned till oodny. HOUSI: Of N.I.IIONS. TUESD %N I JAN. 31. DEBTORS. Sir S. ROMILLY rose, pursuant to notice, to move for leave to bring in a Bill to extend the provisions of the 32d of Kin George the Second, commonly called the Lords Act, to persons confined for uon-paymeut of small fines imposed fur contempt of Courts of Equity. S 5 did •it " siia ing iiet o •• - the suite •uf the Ron's* Cashel - Wet . - Ireland ;Anat . 6 r * l" Irish Catholics Were rebels or not, then- were the laWfut subjects to a Monarch complete in his righti and per Vet iss • possession. Was the sincerity of.‘tht" Freoch Ruler to be de.: • petaled upon, even if this country 'bad delayeeite'comnrunieos- • tinny with respect to the Spanish 'nation? riference to the dlttes will prove that no dependence could be pluce•!. On' the red of October the first overture from France receivitd ; off that day sennight the answer at the •British .Gove rn ment was (tatted, a nd subsequent information has kroved, that am the Vstli„ , Bonaparte acquainted the Legislative Irodst.that he was about 'hi set off for Spain, in order to crown his brother at .Madrid:--- Hence it was certain , that he had actually departed w' to renew' hostilities, ag ainst the Spanish people, before he could vossiblg be apprised of the British answer to his overture. Spain, in defence of her just right:, would ,make, no compromise 'Or the • possible advrininges which usurpation may bring. There was.. no polish that she could expect from foreign s.lbjugation, equivalent for her violated independence. The Met 'Hon, (ientleinat, concluded by moving au Address to his Majesty. de daring the concurrence of that House in the gracious answer the overtures from the Russian and French Goveroinents. • • • Mr. Whitbread rose, and complimented the Right llonottr able :,ieniietuan, not only on the eloqueoce which he had dish placed, but on his having stated some axioms of Government, which did not usually come from that silie of the House, and, which, if acted upon sixteen years ago, the balance of Europe would not have been disturbed. •‘ We carte to take, t s lic government of a country as the people presented• it," was as true a maxim in politics, as any proposition in mathematics, he recollected, however, when those woo supported it were brand ed and overwhelmed, amid the enthusiasm that led to the Freqclt war. lie agreed, that after iheauhwer returned by Bouatiarte, it was impossible to recede consistent!) w ith onr_ natamil.llot. noun and dignity,' but contended that that .aiiiYer %ad been'proi . yoked by the iii-placed taunts coinaiued in the official note sent by Mr. Canniug, and the arrogance displayel,,b) our Govern ment. We ought not to think . that Providence confined atrocities to particular regions or places, but recollect that we had last session voted that similar atroeities. cammated irl , India Were fur 'the honour of the British ,nation. If 'we were bigotted to this opinion of our national rectitude, " we dezeivea ourselves, and tire truth was not in us." (A laugh.) was sorry to be thus scored at, but Government 'durst not pursUe their iniquitous measures, were they, not supported by those who were blind to their wrong s. We should pursue the system of honour in the North as in th e Last we recommended to others, and not brand . Bonaparte with unparalleled atrocities, as if we had forgot all history, and, eyeu that which had,passed in our own days as if we had forgot the atrocities which.had been perpetrated by Spaiu.and by ouEselves, so very lately on Spain: Ile censured w hat had fallen from :Mr. C: res'picting the tmperok Alexander's feelings as a' matt, and thought 4 was hard to re proach him for actin; in a, manner he was . eompelled'to do, from the situation of degradation in which he had been placed, friina joining, as induced by us, the coalition of ISOS. •We were-hat a now fighting for• the rights' of Sovereigns, but that the Goveru 7 went chosen by the Spanish people might pro ail.. At ally rate, but for th e petulanie of Nlinisters, the late O vertur es might have . been broken, oil', without exciting that spirit of rancour and ••• hostility their Mode of conduct hati left. Ile blamed Mr. C. for • . putting into his Majesty's mouth sentiments unworthy a Christian Country, to a Christian World, by saying, he was rejoiced to., • find that the commercial evils de signed against hitt people•were • • . retorted on the enemy. .As our regtklat ion had brought no Muni- . halloo upon Bimaparte, as they had not raised a single morrner • against Linn, it was only rejoicing in the misery of. a ' K iak * which did us no goad. It was also false to say, that the war. • was entered into in self defence , m id co n tinued because no•oppor.:— tunity of concluding. an honourable peace had been • He maintained the proper course would have been to infer oe- , ' fi broke - oat i't Spain; lied I . •, - , t 4 .. ERFURTH COERESPONDENCE. Mr. Secretary CANNING rose, .t;4 move an Address to his Ma jesty on the subject the Erfurt h propositions, relative to the opening of a Negociation for Peace. Whatever doubts then: might be as to the propriet:, i4f the steps taken by the Govermnem in conducting this transaction, 110 one, he was convinced would rise and say that if it had been other,vise conducted the result would be negociat ion or peace. Ile thought it the duty of Govern ment to ascertain, beyond the possibility of a doubt, v.- hat were the real intentions of the enemy. He and his *Colleagues pro- posed to themselves two objects : first, to obtain a result, which would make the intentions of the enemy manifest to all the world ; and secondly, to bring the matter speedily to a point, and meet the propositions in a way that could not lead to many communications; but that, if possible, the first should be (loci tive. It was thought that the evacuation of Spain by the Flinch troops, and tile restoration of the Spauish Royal Family, ought to be made conditions of entering upon a Negociation—and he agreed with those who thought so, in point of moral feeling. — Yet in the situation in which he and his Colleagues stood, be thought that they were bound _to rest upon other principles, had it did. not occur to him that tfiey had any political right to demand this atonement, and that there was no precedent in his-' tory to authorize their to break off upon these grounds, and ' though he confessed, that in doing so, they would stand upon a high and splendid fuundat on, yet he did not think that any risk ought to he ran Sacrifscing the real interests of the country. It was the duty of his Majesty's Government to ascertain the real intentions of France—not only 'so as to satisfy thetmelves, but to satisfy all mankind that _there was no „chance of a favuut- . aide result. ' But the &maul he - and his Colleagues were bound to make wat,lliat Spain•should be admitted a party to the Negociation, and allowed to state its own demands, by which a fUll .opportunity would be afforded of claiming for her that •to . which she was Justly entitled. Noiv, it was not asked that Prince Ferdinand should be restored, but that the Government-de facto, should be admitted as a pat ty. It was not, only as a phta,e,but in the foil meaning that the lan guage and the hope conveyed thai his Majesty i servants had, in the Ueclarationof their Sovereign, commu nicated to the Court of, St. Petersburgh their confidence' the example of Spain, in' consequence of the unjustifiable aggression agttirisf its indepen de.ice, would arouse Rusgia froth its unaccountable * and dans gerous subserviency to'the kheini.i •of the French Ruler.' 1 bad been stated that the introduction of'Spain as a prOimi• • • necessarily produlcett. the &olive Of the B hi di, aler nf Fr itan& had been staters tow. Li... ....•••-_______ nary, necessarily produted.the negative of the Rifler Of France ; 1 , 11154.7 .i. ---------- 0• that it was ftnpossible that h e, consistent with his dignit% , . li e maint:Ained tho proper cours e would have been to oner ire. .._ , iodation to Frauet• when the revolution first broke - oak in Spout; .. • could subsequently accede to the continuance of a nfOciation ; .and while the people called for Periliiiand Vil. they also c‘tiled'-.' ..- !.: but, %VAS it not possible to have admitted the • government of Spain, acting in the name of ,Fertlinand the Sei r en tli, to the for the annelioratioo of their horrikliovernment, to whicb they ~+ , • .% negociation, as a 'government de facto, whilst 4w could have iir• owed all their misery. lie did not require Mitristers lo'abandms. - • '. - • •5 pain, but i f they wished g peace they inuta behave to Bonaparte; cluded the claim of his brother oas the government de jur 'ro this position,. justitied Joseph' tame,p in 'history and who was at the head of the greateat in they ever SIOV w , by the particular situatioa o f Sgain, what was the air-wer re- iii a decorous manner. As for Bonaparte's Message to thttlesido. ._..... turned by the Minister - of 'Burlap:int? That he never would tive Body it alfordedno defence far this note, as it could uot be witte d any claim of the Spanishpeople,sbecallse they were wit known when it, Wasdispatched ; and at all ) rate it was not to State of rebellion. And 'when 'this country p r essed u ptiu he be . argiseo upon Rh many siutliar . deelartions had in the knifes Clovriaroeot the iutete,sts of •,Spaiu, • what 41111WCr cUatue or. aeouttattna been receded from by all pattios: —Ai • . ..., ~ • • . . . . . . .. ... .. . . . . . ' • i .0 FEB. 5. 41 1