The National Register. — London, England, 1821-07-09 00:00:00

• CA •inprrtat Varitament. ® DOUSE OF LORDS. MONDAY, JULY Y. 'rite royal assent was given by COMMIS:4OH to the Loan bill, the Exchequer Dills bill, the Trish Treasury Balls hilt, the Bank of It eland bill, the Wool Importation, the Irish Transfer of Stock, the Naval Stores, Scotch Distilleries, Scotch Mali Duties, Wool Registry, N'agrant Laws Amend ment, County Rates, Justices of the Peace, East India Trade, Fur Trade Regulation, Salvage, British White lien ilia Fishery, Lisp Coal Yard', Thames Lastage and Dallast, and several private c •Asioners were the Land Chancellor, the Eat I of Shaftesbury, and the Duke of Montrose. 11Ir. It. :%lartin and several members from the Commons brought up the 11l treatment of Horses bill, and several ethers, which were read the first time. BANKRUPT LAWS BILL.—Lord DACRE adverted to the intention expressed by the noble and lest ;tea lord on the woolsack, to introduce a measure to regulate the bankrupt laws, and obsessed he should taut press the bill then before the house. The Loin) cHANcr.I.Loa then in•!nsticd his Mien- . Lion to submit to the house some regulation on that itiii:ortant subject, and gave entice that he should bring iu the bill next session of p.ailiament. The bails 011 the table vs ct e forwarded in their respective stages. Oo the motion of the Earl of LAUDEIMALE, the secoml wading of the Mtreatment of Hut SCJ bill was fixed Mr Wednesday. I's Lcosomr, ace.—Earl DARNLEY rose on the r or the day to add, ess the house on the present state of time country. He said, he had to advert to the suoject of economy amidst an apparent apathy on the pats of the uncut hers ut that house. The estimates for the present year were large beyond precedent, and to remedy the evil strong measui es were necessary. He dial not look to ally minute curtailment in the public expenditure. The reduction ut NIHAU salaries in this or that department Nas nut his object. lle felt convinced that govelimeesit, by a serious etlurt to promote economy, might save millions.— The noble earl then adverted to the present state of the navy, which lie considered much higher than the public required. They had 73 ships of the line and 67 frigates in commission—nine of the line were building. This force occasioned an expence which knight be reduced, Milli .1 considerable saving effected. The reduction of Dept Mu dock-yard, which lie understood was in contem plation, would produce a saving alone of 149,2001. Build ing ships and conveying timber to the Thames proilaced an enormous . On that expellee alone a deduction of halls million might be lopped off. He then came to the great national work at Sheerness. The storks already done might satisfy the country, without addumag the sum to be paid this year. He supposed at lest 40,00 UL might he deducted fawn the estimate. In the naval depa Intent at sas mu;; of at least 800,0001. 'night be regard to the army, he could not help thinking many retrenchments might be made. The horse and toot guards occasioned dii expellee of 315,0001. He could not help thinking his 51ajesty was surrounded by mote guards than necessary. On that head of service :10,0001. ani:At be deducted, and leave a force sufficient fr the assistance el tile police. Deductions in the infan try and yrowawv :nip ht also be made, and produce a deduction altugc Met of 400,0001. The slll3l at 450,0001. was voted fur the expence of barracks. lie thought a saving might be made on that Rein. Instead of 4'..0,6001. I.io,tiaol. might be sufficient. Upon the aimy alone there might be a deduction of 700,0001. If those Mho said economy was their object would enter into all the details, they might proceed to a sale of laud• and bedding& which had never been of any use. If economy ams the object, there could be no doubt that a satin; at 10 per cent. might be made io every department of governments He then adverted to the civil ►ist—giving the Monarch all the splendour due to his dignity, nothing could add more to the satisfaction of the pi uple than sacrifices on the poet of the CrOslll. lie did not wish to be invidious, but he was sure a great reduction might take place in that head of expenditure. The expence of foreign ministers per haps was not mare than necessary, but when a crisis WAS apploaching, like that which he was persuaded would soon happen, nallisteis ought to aelrou•.•b to the utmost, and a sating in at least 11,u00, , 00i. might Le effected. In the expellee occasioned by the collection of the revenue ut least half a million might be saved. The noble curl cone:oiled by moving that au Imitable address be pre armed to his Majesty, implu►mg hint to take into his most serious consideration the difficulties and distresses of the country, and praying his Majesty to give directions to the execut es in all the great departments or state. sc. The Earl of LIVERPOOL diJ nut object loan address to his Majesty to promote economy - , bin he differed ul vin the terms used by Lord Darnley, and proposed another address, " to &same his Majesty that the house regarded tants satisfaction the reduction made tins year in the Cll•- tams, and begged that similar investigation may be made is all branches of the intone expenditure; and to beseech his Majesty to order inquiry into the civil departments, milli a vicar or making every possible reduction in the expenee of great establishments nitich the country is ot.iieed to maintain." die. tt. Emil GROSVENO it gave his decided preference to the motion of his noble fl kilt" (Earl Darnley.) He had heard the noble eat I state to the house on foauer occasions the %cry same assurances they had jint braid from hint. The sinew sof war were to be f I o i ly .0 the piusperity of the comitiy. Gaudy shows and butteilly exhibitions wound ill become the distresses of a nation already borne down by distresses; and nothing could mule firmly esta blish his Majesty on the nil one than erollolll. This brought bits to tke cereinuny which was .110111) to take place. He considered the advice given to r %elude the Queen flout the coronation most injudicious. Admitting the law to be clear against the crow ' gof the Queen, and her 7slaj..,ty had no light to he present, still, under the peen hat circumstances of the conntiy, the advice given to exclude her was injutheions. He knew It was said hi. Majesty could set aside the coionstion of the Queen by the precedent of Beau tile Seventh; but he believed it w ouPd appear the marriage of that Mamee,' did hot take place until after the coronation, and if so, it would furnisli 180 pieceilent. He had beet, always of opinion, that unless ice coronation was without oioy„ it would be a vain and i.ile pageant. The lice and chains of the ceremony would be the good wishes of the people; bet, above all, he was disposed to deprecate the emplr.y °sent of suldieis. in hit. -so 411.... 44, • I\. •. •• • mit. THE NATIONAL REGISTER opinion, there could not Le a greater hisalt to the King and the people than saying tic Monarch should not per sonally show himself t.) his snirjects, hut walk along the plivfount amidst troops, surrounded only by the military aril a host of bayonets. He kin,. I. would be said that soldiers usually attended these ceremonies. He would say, let deem attend, but not be placed to obscure the splendour of the ceremony. Loud MELVILLE defended the arrangements made in the naval department, and cantunded that due attention hail been paid to economy in that branch of that set vice. After some further discusaion, Lord Darnley's address was rejected, and that moved by the Earl of Liverpool agreed to.—Adjourned. - ESDAY, JULY 3. The Chancellor of the Exchequer, and several members from the Commons, brought up the bill to make fun ther provisions for his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence, which was read the first time. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said, although he did not mean to oppose the grout to his Ro) of Highness the Doke of Clarence, there were soave parts of the bill on which, at a future stage, he shottld make a few observations. Several hair on the table were read a third time and passed. The other bills wet e forwarded a stage, and the house adjourned. the increase and decrease of salaries, /inlet!, 1103.—Ordered to be printed, on motion of Mr. Creevey. Mr. GHAT rAN presented a petition from various inha bitant.: of Crow•street theatre, praying that an inquiry should he iiistituted as to the reasons fur %snitcitacring the retie of the patent to that theatre.--Ordered to be printed. Mr. IL CLIVE moved an adore-s to hi• Majesty, pray lag that he would give directions fur the printing of the ninth report of the commissioners to enquire into the fees of the Scotch courts.—Ostlered. _ _ Tile captured slaves' hill was read a third time, and passed. Lord LON DON DERRY, in reply, to the enquiry from from Sir J. Macintosh, stated that he did not consider it would be prudent now to lay before the house the documents on which he communicated the opinion of the Frerch government the other Plight on the ineasuris adoptieg abolishing the slave trade. Lord LONDONDERRY moved that the Doke of Cla rence's additional annuity bill be now read third time. CUEEVEI again opposed it. It was to o mach t o think ut taking the money from the pockets of the people in such house —ai heti there was a compact family chyle op posite, the servants of the crown, who, in reality dec;ai the ques • ; is hen there was any metwure fur the relief of the people, then it was considered tam three or four hundred were too sivall a house. That the people might see how their money wan soled away ; that the) may judhe of the select few who settled the business, he co tattily should take the sense of tile house on the present question. 111. ECIII.I/ resisted the bill. He was against the payment of is hut the bill called " Arrears ;" and he thought that if any member had suggested an) thing of this kind three or four y eats ago, lie would run great risk of being laughed at. Ile felt it to be his duty to resist the bill. Mrs SERGEANT OUNSLO W supported the bill. Tire arrears could nut be looked at in any other light than as au outfit. . . _ r. MONCK said, however ungracious it might seem, he must resist this hill. The only way of fulfilling the promises of the house was to resist such extravagant grants as this.— Economyw•as now iiccessury—w ithout it, he tell persuaded that the iuterest of the debt could not be paid. Lord A. HAMILTON resisted the arr ears. Mr. BROUGILI M staid, he shotaLl also vote against the arrears. On Saturday the subject of the coronation had been mentioned ; and the noble lord accused the Queen's law advisers of a delay of wore than two month's. Dad he said one month, it might have been nearer the mark Muy 21 the subject of the coronation was first inept td—but there was no answer to the enquiry whether the Queen was to be crowned; Lord Londonderry, however, said that the Queen had no right to be crowned without the orders of the King, hut even if it should be otherwise, lie tool She oilier ministers were not prepared to :advise that the Queen should be crowned. Such was the noble lord's opinion. He (Mr. B.) then protested against being considered its acquiescing in such doctrine. But the Queen's law officers were not culled on to act till the proclamation for the coronation h as issued, and then till the Queen's commands a eie received— but as to the delay, only eleven days elapsed front the issuing of the pet (Lunation and the forwarding of a memorial from his chambers. 'That was not too shin t a tine to settle so I portant a case, especially when it was recollected how important was the question, .sinl how difficult it was to het :11 the requisite documents in the Hiitish museum and else. where.—( If ear, heat !)--Ilut there was still no great pressure of time; there was still seventeen days before the coronation way plopt.sed to take place ; and there were illst:LlWt s Ott seem.: in the seve•uteenth century where there had been only sixteen days notice given. Lord LONDONDLARY observed, that the attention of the Queen ' s law officers toast hove been long tamed 1.1 this sub jrct for soon after the issuing of the proclamation, the Quern d.•m:tutled to know in is hat character site was to ap pear at the coronation. The ministers replied Ilea the right war with the croon to give directions, and that the ministers were not prepared to advise any directimis on the subject. W hat Illinislerb complained ol• wits, that theist! w as such slowness of demand, while such quickness of reply was expected; and the toile of the learned gentleman (NH. Dee m:Lit) was most significant a n d decidedly eliminatory . , im ply mg a charge of a denial of justice. !Sow there had been tin ce memorials, the fiist on ate 2311 i tilt. one received to-day, forwarded yesterday, claimed to be heard before the King in council; that was the regular course of pie . ceeding ; said the request hail been complied w ith, from layouts and ;race, not as matter of t fight. Her Maij.tity was now tip he heald by her counsel before the pr.vy council, in n vuppo,t of her choose Mr. DI. N MAN said lie had felt surprised that the minis • tees should have given such advice ;is they professed to have offered, without fit ing prepated to 1551411 reasons fur so doing, or without malting any communication on tile subject to .:cr Majesty ; just as the question was now put in cuurye of ins es- I igatiott, lie slimildahstain ftrum making nil) (water ncmat krr. Tire house then divided. Ayr, Noes 33—Majorily in favour of the bill 61. Lord A. lIA MILTON, on nor re entering the gallery, oas proceeding to propose it l'e:Ottit kill to prevent the iftlitittKe of granting ❑rrears from being drawn into precedent ; rte required it to he entered on the joitioals, mid it was moved oo the question that the bill do now pare. Lord lON DONDER.R.I said, tout the que►tion had all rally been fully argued; it was uahecessary for WO to trouble the house in reply to the questioii now submitted. The motion was then put and liegai Reit without at d+vt• don; and the bill was then passed and ordered to the lot db. Vl£ l'ailLtAllOttli begged to state, at the request of the Dean ot Vt estinioster, Ihot they had Mid out 29,0001. in the repairs of the Abbey within the last 20 years; the Dean a tshea to State Ilius much hn reply to what had been st strut on a huller evening about the dirty state of a lie Abbey. That dirt it mast he recollected, was owing partly to the smoky condition of the ataitspheie. As to the profit: likely to be derived from the opitroaChlog coronation, by letting seats to the Antal, they had been mocha over-rated, they would ant amount to SIAM. mud those profits woule he applied, attem ding In immemorial custom, to certain purposes other than repairing tile Abu- y• lie made these statement at the Ettinebt at the Dean of Wevimitivier. .......... PI4LVFATIVE SERVICC.—Sir W. H. CRISPIGNLY moved fur a copy of the warrant to a man named Brook, of the proventitive service, on the Weymouth and Poit land station, authorising them to search a mauled wo man, At!. It was stated, that the search was made in au offensive manner. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER should move the pi evious question, as the amnion lied been made without inquiry. Mr. BENNE'r thought that the motion had better be winnow'', or a notice given to the ti emir) iustitutiug lIICDNESDAY. JULY 4. b.r...rne.iTMENT OF iioltsl.:;' 11ti.t..---Several petitions were presumed in favour of the ill-treatment of horses' bill. They were severally read. and laid on the table. The Eat I of LAUDERDALE, adverting to the bill to which the shove petitions referred, observed that it was difficult for the house to entertain such a measure. The law, as it stood, was sufficient to punish cruelty to ani mals. Until he had heard sonic peer come furwatd to move the second aeu d ing, he should take no further no tice of the bill. The following bills, passed last night in the House of Commons, wei e brought up Oy Nlr, flu °Oen and other members, who had boo) deputed for the pus puse.—The lotteries bill, the lush stamp duties, exchequer bills, pub lic works, customs relief, appropriation, tobacco duties, and baiikruptcy courts, whit' were read the first time. The Duke of Clarence's grant bill was read the second time, and committed for to-morrow. HUSBANDRY HORSES BILL—The Earl of LAUDER DALE said, lie should postpone any observations lie had to make on this bill until the third reading, as by that time he expected some revenue retui us would be laid un the table, A petition was then pre,ented from 13ridewell Precinct, by the Earl of Shaftesbury, in favour of the ill-treat. mem of horses bill. The Earl of Carrington presented a similar petition from St. Andrew', in tile Wardrobe. Petitions were also preNented from the merchants of London and Claplesm, by Lord Xlelvile ; front Southamp ton, by the Earl of Carnarsun ; from Whitby, by Lord Amherst ; and from Brighton and Hastings by the Earl of Limn irk. The lunatics trustee; bill, Ilse mohair bounties, and the warehousing hill, acre read the tliirti I The Irish alike: itottottivs, the ltish customs collection bill, the hops exportation hill, the Isle of Mall trade, and captured slave vessels tails, passed through committees.— The house then odjouruvd. rut:asps Y AFL% 5. The claim of the IS:al of Lisaion, and the Marquis of Doilegul, to vote nt the election of Irish pe , rs, was aboard. The order fur the attcaluce of toe judges, in this house to macron, to decide in the case of Kirreur, Woolf, mud others, was discharged, and fixed agatill for Monday. Mr. Mason, front the Last illtiail House, pi catitted an ac count relative to salaries and disburscinelits. Lind CALTHOIt itreenteil a petition from Hull, in fatour of a bill to prevent the ill treatment of horses, which was 'rad and laid no the table. The bills before the house were severoll3, furnarded in their respective stages. . . _ Tots Due OFCL•REMCC*II GRANT.--Tile Earl of LA CHERI/ALE add, esscd the house on the subject of the bill tar making additional provision for his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence. The noble earl approved of the grant, ou the ground that the other house oad given a bl.llll which might be coosidered the fixed alai regular allots mice w halt aught to be made to WI the royal dukes. lle then ads coed to the case of another illustrious poison, the Duke of Cuinberinitd, who certainly was ' placed in a situation which did not prove the justice nod consistency of podia meat. The made curl considered the claim of royal personag. to the liberality of parliament squal 10 any other, and unless dirte was a justifiable nepartore Irmo the princi ples he had Wittiest:it( d,of making one Used provision for the royal dukes, the Hoke of Cumberland's claw could not tie passed over. If mhlbtcrs did not bill curbs propositiou to parliament, he had still in his own Minds that primer or waving an address to his Majesty, stating the grounds on which geaats to the toy al faintly sitotild lie made. In ease lie found it necessary, he should rem tainly move such address, and whatever might be the result, be should have the butts ' foci ion of reflecting that he had done his duty. The Lail of LIMERICK agreed to every thing that had fallen from the noble earl. Tilt hill %as then eununitted fur to-morrow, ■nd the titular inljUtll ►RIDAY, JULY 6. The LORD CHANCELL.Dit attended the house this day v ouu loser o'clock. The Earl of SH A TEilkiftY presented n petition, rut into his hand by K. Matto', M. P. for Galway, from Clog %%ell, in the count) of Lssex, in favour of the bill to puuish and lin:cent cruelty to sinimate.—The petition wits read and laid on the table. The Libe•ised taxer' hill uni rtn.d a third Time. The Duke of Clarance't 101 l pawed inroih:li a committee, wil► agreed to without otifriiditient, uud repot ted to the house. Toe app i lip, tution bill , the linokiutitty court bill, the cobtoni.holibe °dicer.' bill, the exchequer hills bill, the ow. 01)11661h police bi.l, the lottery hill, the 'rib!' strait, duliee bill, and the whocco duties bill, were seberull) cuounittbd. 'rue hoube then adjoui lied to Mouda3 MOUSE OF COMMONS. MONDAY, JULY 2. The home %%as summoned to attend the house of Peers. to hear the royal out giveu by commission to soudry (See Lords.) Tin bankruptcy court bill weal through s committee. — Report to morrow. A A person from the Westminster•bridge commissionen pre. seated t hetr ennual account , . Mr. ARBUTIINOT prevented certain accounts relative to . _2.