The National Register. — London, England, 1821-09-02 00:00:00

- sent. The officer, Lieut. Gore—he was in fact sub lieutenant—gave the orders for the clearing away of the people. They were not ordered to use violence; he had said they were obliged to use violence in their endea vours to clear away the people. He did not see any magistrate; he did not know the magistrates. The Coroner's clerk then read his minutes over to the witness. The Coroner next said, that he had received a letter from Col. Lvgon, dated Knightsbride-barracks, stating that Corporal Ilaywood and Trumpeter Farmer had been served with summonses, and would attend ; but that the officers were absent. They would be served, and he doubted not that they would be in attendance when the jury next assembled. Mr. Henson said, he could undertake positively to promise that these would be in attendance when the jury next assembled. John Farmer, trumpeter, was then sworn and exa mined. He did not know what trumpeter was on duty at Cumberland-ease. He did not see the patty go out, nor come in. Ile was not there; he did not see who was there. The youngest trumpeter in the troop was aged 34; he was named Frederick Salamon ; that was, he was t he youngest appointment. There was no trum peter named Bishop. There was a learner of that name, but he had nerer known that person to go out with the troop. Bishop was not at the battle of Waterloo. He was about 18 years of age. The lad Bishop was not employed to do duty at the barracks—but he was not nositively acquainted with this fact. He did not know who was the orderly corporal on the 14th inst The minutes having been read over to the witness, he signed the document and withdrew. William King, So. 18, Great Wild -street, Lincoln's Inn Fields, sworn —lie saw a young gentleman, whom he afterwards understood to be an officer, and his horse's head was towards Cumberland-gate. This officer quite wantonly, as witness conceived, for every thing was per fectly quiet, and t,o stones were throwing at the time, he presented his pistol over his bridle arm towards the peo ple. When witness saw the pistol presented he changed his position one pace, when at the same instant the de ceased fell. He stood so close to Honey that lie did not know whether the contents of the pistol were intended for himself or the deceased. He saw the Bash, and he was so close to the person who fired that he had every opportunity of recognizing his features as well as the pis tol with which he had fired. When he had discharged the pistol he rode immediately amongst the soldiers. He was a very young man, and wore no cloak not mantle. Witness retreated and went down Oxford-street. Irl'heit the firing bad ceased he came up again and saw the same officer arranged in Cumberland-street, inside the trum peter, in the rank. Ile saw him conversing with the trumpeter and a private of the corps in the rank on the near side, whom he addressed with great familiarity, and occasionally laughing. lie had since had an opportunity of seeing the same officer at the Horse Guards. Last Sunday week he saw him there, when the Life Guards were relieved by the Blum He does not know his name, but unless he was disguised he should be able to recog nise his person any where. It was between eleven and twelve o'clock on Sunday week when he saw him. Corporal Thomas Coulson, of theist regiment of Life Guards, was next called in and sworn. He belonged to Captain Al'Neale's troop. Ile knows nothing touching and concerning the death of Richard Honey. Ile was orderly corporal ou the 14th August. Capt. M'Neale's troop is Troop C. lie does not know the names of the men who were commanded by Lieut. Gore on that (lay. Ile does not know the men. He does not know all the men of his troop personally. lie received orders to send a ccrtlin number of men out on that day, and he sent the first he saw ; in the hurry he could not tell who they were exactly. It was his duty to see whether the men were present on the parade every evening. He believes some of the men were wounded on the I4th; but lie believes they were all present on the next evening pa. rade. He is not sure upon that point. He could give the names i he was at home. In answe • to some further questions, he expressed himself willing to give every assistance he could to the Jury, and was directed to attend on Friday. The Coroner said, he understood Mr. L•x-Sheriff Par kins and his servant were waiting to be examined.— The ix• Sheriff was then called. Joseph 'Wilfred Parkins, of in, Bridge -street, Black friars, sworn. The procession went on with great so lemnity and order until it arrived at Kensington turn pike-gate, near the church. When I arrived at Church lane, 1 tountl the place blocked lip with dung-carts and waggons, and a great cotiColl MC of people standing round and upon them, who cheered me, and exclaimed—"We will go to the City." Lord Hood, who was very near, spoke to me on the impediment anti obstruction of the funeral, and suggested the propriety of sending a mes sage to Lord Liverpool, to communicate to him the awkward state of the affair, and the utter impossibility of getting tip Church-lane. I was requested to bear that information to Lord Liverpool, o hers refusing so to do. A gentleman offeriog to accompanying rue, 1 proceeded to Lord Liverpool's, where I met Mr. Wilmot, who, I think, said, " Lord Liverpool is not within." I then informed hint (he knew who I was well) 1 had come lions Kensington Church, where the funeral procession was totally stopped, and that it was hardly impossible to proceed through Church-lane; if they did persist in going that way many lives would inevitably be lost; and that those who persisted in it would have to answer for the same. Mr. W 111110 L said he would communicate that information to Loud Liverpool. The remaining pan of Mr. Parkins's evidence, was wholly without io terest or novelty. Joseph Thorn servant to Mr. Parkins, was next ea:l:d, and eo•roborated his master's testimony in its leading particulars, Thomas Wilson was sworn.—His evidence in sob• stance was the sante as has abeady been before our renders from/other witnesses. The Court then adjourned till two o'clock on Friday. [NINTH DAY.] On Friday, soon after two o'clock, the Coroner entered the room, and the Jury being called over, kild answering to their names, Lieutenant Poland was sworn.—He was present at the Queen's funeral, but knew nothing whatever concerning the death of Richard Honey. lie did not see any indivi dual fire a pistol, but heard the reports of pistols. He had heard of Honey's death, but knew nothing more of it.— To a question from a Juror lie said lie had two brothers, one in Germany, the other at school. Joseph Bingham and George King were then examined, but no new fact was established by either. As soon as the examination of King was ended, the Co roner was informed that Capt. Oakes was in attendance. He was immediately called in and sworn. Mr. Adolphus applied to the Coroner to inform Captain Oakes, that he was not bound to answer any question that had a tendency to involve himself in a criminal pro secution. - The Coroner immedi..tely told Capt. Oakes, that he certainly was not bound to answer any question that had that tendency. Captain Oakes proceeded to state, in reply to the ques tions of the Jury, almost all of whom took a part in exa mining him, that he had himself no knowledge of Honey's death ; a detachment of the Guards was under his com mand at the Queen's funeral ; Lieut. Gore does not belong to his troop; does not know whether Lieut. Gore bad any officer to assist him, nor whether he has at present any leave of almnee. Lieut. Terry commanded at Hyde Park Corner; saw the procession enter Hyde Park; does not know whether the gates were opened by the soldiers.— He then proceeded to state, that he was assailed with brickbats and stones previous to coming to Cumberland Gate, hot there ilia party were so violently attacked, that lie was astonished how the men kept on their horses; from that moment the men were in constant and excessive dam. ger. He did not hear the Riot Act read. Juror.—By whose orders slid the soldiers fire? Witness.—l commanded the party, and if any orders were given, it may be presumed they were given by me; and I Nish to know am I to answer a question that may lead to difficulties? Mr. Adolphus.—lle declines answering. The Juror who pot the question desired that the whole answer should be taken down. The Coroner said it was unnecessary ; it was sufficient to say the witness declined answering the question. The witness then proceeded.—After the hearse had en tered the Park, he passed it, and by great exertion suc ceeded in opening Cumberland gate. Lieutenant Gore's squadron was on the other side of the gate. and might have assisted. Witness's first order was to assist in bring. ing the procession through the Park, Cumberland•gate, and the Edgware toad, which was the prescribed route, from which it had been previously forced by the mob; did nut see it forced; but these we-e the terms of his orders. He first joined the pt °cession at Kensington, and told Sir Robert Baker lie was come to assist him. He saw the procession turn into the Park, and followed it.— He supposed Ile was following Sir Robert Baker. A Juryman here observed, that several officers had been examined, and stated that they could not tell the names of the Guards who had been on duty that day—he hoped Captain Oakes could do it. Captain Oakes said, I am sorry I cannot assist you— the men are called on duty by letters, and not by their names; and after the duty is over, I do not know that the names can he ascertained. The orderly corporal culls the roll. In reply to questions from a Juror, the witness said, lie did not tell Sir Robert Baker that he would obey him, but that he would assist him to bring the procession by the prescribed route. If Sir Robert Baker said lie did not want assistance, witness would have returned; and had Sir R Baker, asked him to stay an hour longer than lie himself thought necessary, be should have probably have complied. Sir Robert Raker communicated to witness his intention of taking the procession through the city, if necessary, and said he u could take the responsibility on himself. This did not accord with the orders given to witness, and, in conse quence, requested of Sir R B. to stipend the execution of lois into:tam until he (the witness) should communicate with higher nuthority. The witness'r order; being to assist the civil power in going a prescribed mote, he did nut thiuk himself justified in going any oilier. Sir IL B. ngreed to 50... peed the execution of his intention : witness in consequence dispatched Lieut. Storey a ith a message. • In reply to a question from a Juror, he stated tint Lieut. Storey had not returned Kith an answer before the proces sion entered the Park.—The orders fur the procession were given by Government, and lie did not conceive that either Sir R. Baker or himself hail any posse, to deviate front the route prescribed. Understottod from Sir Baker that it was his awn act to deviate from the prescribed .route, and thought it disobedience of maters. There were t wo of his men scot from th•! ground quite incapacitated. The next day there were thirty seven men on the stir...eon's list ; and on further enquiry it was found that fiii ty•one had beer: wounded; eight horses had hero wounded, and all this was done before any firing had taken place, at least almost the whole of it. When he considers his responsibility for the lies en trusted to his care, he scarcely thinks himself justified f, r for the forbearance he used. There are two of the men :till iu the hospital. The steadiness and regularity of the men were far beyond what could have been expected. Witness said brick-hats were thrown at him with great violence on his first joining the procession at Kensington, and the people shouted " Victory, %ivory—thank God we have beat them once." A Juror—l believe that s$ us after Sit Robert Baker hail promised the people that the proce,sion should go through the city. Witness.—l can't tell what pronfses Sir R. Baker made. The witness, in answer to t lie question of svveral Jurors, said, there were few stones tlnuwo till lie advanced to Gros venor-gate ; from thence it continued to Cumberland-gate, w here it s, as so violent that lie entered Oxford-street under a shower of brick-bats from every direction, nail on arriving at 'Tyburn-gate he f d u uu,A on both Limit', one behind the arum railing, another belnnd a barn ier of waggons, tool it Mink Of Is tree was placed behind Tyburn-gate to prevent its bring forted ; these positions were so strong, that to submit to the attack made by the ls mall be to sacrifice hi, squadron tarry man, tool the 111"11 attacked us its such seen , that the pistol became the only alternative; and ;I. far as lie could observe, they were tie d di:441:1141 (I 111 the air with a vine natter, to in item to retaliate. Th.• vs aggines weir n•,aosed 110111 the Litgetvait-toad, it:lcr winds the THE NATIONAL REGISTER . J witaess retired, telling the magistrate be supposed there was no further occasion for him. Coroner.— Were any of the men that had been on duty absent from the muster that was made for the inspectiee of the a itnesses ? Witness.—None, to toy knowledge, except those who were wounded. The wetness said, he did not see the men or horses who were wounded; the number was reported by the proper officers. lie did not 'bee any of the snub cut. The first tiring proceeded from the head of his ono detachment, close to hint. He never told Sir It. Baker he. was a illiog to go with the procession the way he should choose. When Captain Oakes's evidence 'sod been read ov. r, Juror wished to know what became of Lieut. S.urcy, from the time that he went to the I iorse Guards? Capt. Oakes said, he did not relit, n until after the prores. siou had entered into the Park. ------ •••• - -•-• A Juror.—llid you consider Lieutenant Gore under your command. Capt. Oakes.—l had not the particular command of that detachment, but when I came to ehere the &Mel 'llt was, if I had given any word of col 1111 l and, of course Lieut. Gore and his taco would hare obeyed it. A Juror.—Did the firing commence with Mr. Gore's de tachment Captain Oakes.—Certninly not. A Juror.—Did you give ortlert to fire ? Captain Oakes.—l hare ahead) , declined to answer that question. The Coroner.—!Te cannot hr obliged In answer loch question, mid wiling should he inferred from it one way or the other. Mr. Adulphur.—lf he is the person who gave the order he would, by answering, implicate himself; and if he told that any other peison gave the older, ha would equAlly subject himself ton criniinul prosecution. No man beMrea Spanish Inquisition would answer cur h a que.tion. The Coroner.—Certuinly not. He cannot be bound to Sumer such a question. A Juror.— Were you mounded on this occasion ? Witness.—l was not wounded, but I was severely struck several times. I received a blow from one brick-bat which must have broken my head if I had not a helmet on. A Juror —You have sold, Captain Oakes, that you Ind other orders besides those which you received from Sir R. Baker ? Capt. Oakes.—l had other orders. Juror.-- Were those orders to set in opposition to the civil power J.. Mr. Adolphus.—lt is impossible that any such orders could be given or acted upon. If the military had acted in oppo• Sidon to the civil power, they would have been guilty of ac. lull rebellion. The Coroner.—l suppose Capt. Oakes had orders from g• v.:rumen' as to the route of course; but he did not con duct the procession That was the province of the herald and not of the inditary. Captain Oakes then signed his deposition. Lieut. Gore was the next sworn. The Coroner mild, Mr. Gore, you are not by law bound to answer any question that nay Criminate yourself. Mr. Gore then said, 1 do not know any thing touching and concerning the death of Richard Hooey. I was in duty on the 1 nth of Anent. I took a station at Cumber land Gate. I had thirteen men under my command. There were twelve privates and a trumpeter ; I mean to include two corporals in that imether. I did tint wear a cloak; I was accontred in field-day order; it is quite op tional on such occasions fur the officers whether they will take pistols or not. 1 was not provided with pistols on the lath of August. It was a short time after I came to Cum berland Gate that I discovered I had no pistols. I their discovered also that I had no cloak. I discovered that I had neither cloak nor pistols at the same time. The ghee rag is so large that it is necessary to lift it lip before I can discover whether my cloak is there or not, if it is rolled np properly. I did remark, when I discovered it, that my servant had sent me out without cloak or pistols. I never had carried pistols before that day. I might hive had them in the riding school. I have been discharged from the riding school about fifteen months. I certainly consider myself entitled to carry pistols. I do not consider my servant was censurable for not furnishing me wills pistols. I felt no disappointment; I merely stated the fact. I did nut borrow a pistol on that day. I do not know the uamrs of the corporals with me on that day, neither do 1 know the names oldie men. I beg to observe in explanation, that the detachment was ordered out in a very hurried manner from the barracks, and therefore I had no opportunity of observing them. I cannot tell what the age ot the trumpeter was I cannot tell whether his age was 20 or I forget whether I had any conversa tion with the tinmpeter on that day. I might have hail two cr three words with hint, but no particular conversa tion. He rode after ille—not along side. I did not borrow a cloak on that day. I did nut see any Mali in my detach ment offer toe the loan of a pistol on that day. I believe one did offer me the loan of* cloak. I can't say whether I was at the head of the detachment when we left the barrack§ or not. I wile sometimes before and sometimes behind it. Ido not think the trnmpeter rode along side ()flue then. I believe lie did on our return. I do lint recollect hearing a cry (tom the people of " there go the two butchers together." I was present when the regiment was inspected. I was then mounted on the same horse as on the 14th. I was iu Unnilierland-sweet after the pro cession had passed into the Edgware-road, at the latter part of the dey. Do not know at what time. I have no re collection how long it was after the procession passed. I was dismissed show two holes and a half atter the proces sion passed—atter it was all over. I was not actually iu Cimiberlaild-street myself, except to speak to Captain o.ikes. 1 will swear that I Was nut there with my party and the trumpeter by me side. To the best of my ecal leetion I hail no couvervatiou with any of Captain (lake's party in C bet land street. Several of his men returned %vomited in the surgrun's relnt. I saw the helmet sof nue of diem Lenten in; I nican I saw it after it was beaten in. I was inlornied that one of• the horses had ifs throat cut. I was pen hips go or 2 11111' utei at Comber' old gate before the procession came up. We did not exactly chaise upon the people. bit some of the men merely %%cult foment to prevent their hi tug assailed with stones, anti rode at them to thrive them away. Some of the 1111'11 had remonstrated with them previously, and entreated them to go away. We had been heavily assailed w ink lie ick hats and oilier missies. Ido not know of any bid'''. virtual being eta down or wounded by the soldiers. should tint know Sir Robert Baker if 1 were to see hint.— I do not know wlie;her the Reit Ail ,t is Cu' Ali iu ()%fo, StIVIA. 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