The National Register. — London, England, 1820-11-13 00:00:00

Imp r 1 Pgr! ' aPawf maimitod ft clot prge. 333. guilty of haleeoruni with Lord Liver-emit !—(Loud laughter) —nod that she bud played at filinileim% Lull t. it li ibe Chun- cellnr of the Eschermer I—(Ceutioue.l r.)-114 Lutd King) could nut reter to the exact 'permit at which woe • extraordinary 50..1 indecent proceedings took plat e. Lord LIVERPOOL.—" They never took (Hear.) Lord KING.—" I cannot, I assert. your Lordships, re fer to the exact time, but it !NMI have been, 1 think, when the Noble Lord was looking for peace, tie fore the Itegeacy !" (Laughter.) Lord LIVER etAll...—" Never, upon toy honours"— (Hear, hear, ULU fund calls of Qatstion.) Lord GREY sa.el, that his inclination was to vote for the Clause; but he should do so upon but one prior whit It was, that the passing of the Clause would it ail to the final rejection of the eilions measure allogetht* , • — (Hear, hear.) Lord DONOUGHMORE was &tenni:x(l to :advocate the Clause, m what could he done with the Bill/ Lord ELLEN BOROUGH begged the Home would consider what they were doing alien they were deliher- Sting upon the question of up the Divorce Clause. If they passed the Bill without that Clause, they would be declaring that the Quceu was too had for the State, butt good enough for the King! (Hear, liner.) If they omit ted the Clause and passed the Bill, their Lordships would be publishing a seditious libel against his Majesty! (A laugh, and cries of Hear! Loud SOIIIEItS said, he could not reconcile it to Ids conscience that the Queen should be deprived of all liar rights, and still remain tied alid fastened, like a mid stout, round the neck of the Sovereign. (A Ilugh, and cries of scar, hear, hear.) Lord LIMERICK said, if their Lordships did not pass it with all its chaciments, the King, and what was of 11101 e consequence, the Nation, would be degraded by having at its head a woman who was unworthy to 'cumin at the head of (male society) Lord ESSEX said, he had very carefully listened to all the arguments in favour of thellill, sod to ail the evidence produced at their Lordships' Bur, and the .:union to which hr had come was, that her ltlajesty had been ti.e victim of a base eanspilacy, which had long existed against her, and been the lesidt of roost malignant pi e tneditadon.—( Hear, hear, hear.)—He had (the Noble Lord said) paid his reps eta to her Majesty, awl seen the individual in her service of whom so much had been sail in and out of that House, and he must declare, that that individual was infinitely superior to those who generally attended io Re I/ordinate situations, and that his conduct to his royal mistress had been extremely respectful. He begged their Lordships would mark, that this visit hail taken place in the year 1819—a period at as 11101 it could have been no difficult matter, if any sin pi oper acquaint ant e bad existed, to observe it iu the con:tart ut troth parties.— (Hear ' hear.) Lord ANSON agreed with his noble fi Lend who had just sat down, on the subject of the divorce clause, and therefore he would vote that it should not be separated from the Bill. The Earl of CARNARVON said, the separation and divorce must go together; for if they degraded the Queen, without divorcing her, they were dram ing that, although she was the most worilless of her sex, there was one indi vidual In the country who must still remain her mate I He, fur one, would raise his voice to save the Crown Rust such degradation. Lord HOLLAND apprehended that, if the divorce clause was nut passed, but the degradation only, the Queen, (hot 7,1 i no longer the Queen, would still continue the wife of the King, and that to violate her would still be High Treason. He would vote that the divorce clause should remain part of the Hill, although lie 41111 felt great objection to every other part of the Bill, and say Nut Content to the third reading, *teenier the clauses were retained or not. Tbe Marquis of BUCKINGHAM said, that passlug the Bill of Degradation without the divorce clause, was a monstrous anomaly, and therefore he would vote that the ' Clause be retained. Tbe Earl of GLASGOW could make no comptoniise of adultery, and therefore he would vute for the divorce clause continuing part of the Bill. Lord MAN VCRS said—" This Bill has my most entire and iimpalified approbation with its pi es t i ! ' provisions ; Slid I 110.16 t declare so far from considering her Majesty as the victim of 4 conspiracy, I feel convinced that her con duct has been degrading and scant.alous, adulterous and infamous. Loud FALMOUTH would yield to no one in his attach. trent to his Sovereign iii his public and political cupacity ; but lie would neither be dung hie dui) to his Sovereign, nor to himself, if lie did not also admit that the King had private rights and duties to perfut to as well as the meati est of his subjects ! Lord DAIiNLLy hoped that the limited phalanx who were opposers to the Bat in tutu, soppoi tett us it hail been b) flying petite, all ut•er the House, would triumph at last. He tievea felt gri ater pride in his life than itt Itetolt elle of that ;Malawi. lle was tinder the painful utccs►rty, hu w ee r, of Mg with his friends, so far as to think 'that the dtvorer elatibe ought not to stand part of the BM. Lord IiLLIIAN . LN said, that he agreed wttf the Noble Earl near him (Grey), in thinking that if the 11.11 was to pass at all, the diviner, elaii , e thus'. !omid part at u. The calls of •• Question !" now became rt octal, and it was put by the Chairman—" Shalt the Divot ce l'eanve wand part of the Bill?" llis Lordship declared that the bun-Contents had it. A was tkinatoled, amid strangers were ordered to iv 'the numbers were: sou after vial ifs ahnotaxed to be as follow :—Coiotenth L.9—Nun-Ceiirema ity for the Divorce Clause t 7. While strangers were excluded. we tiger that Lord KIM) rose, and said that he should viler nu apology tot sithiniiiing to their Lorilsbirs a clause, the in.emoa of which in the 11111 seemed a moue; Of courbe, con bo dei l o g that :he Unveil was not 1 , 1110.e1 . plat cd ih ti n • ulluttioila line ul 'Ores in the sitece,sion lo lite Up ii of thew 'realms. 'Die Crown vs to !ILI \l.a',ly,io the event el• certain persons redy cessitig het, nod that by th e most LlCft•d and ftwthoaenial lwatt of the fond. if it devolved on her; the gclrhuuuu loyidti of iloir Lord. ships most at note Mike !AVM adopt a d.Cutut V WV+ the ptr+l•ot titieslitm ; Ott-at I --and. fou oard to that event, they matt he ready to provide tor P. He therefore movr d this Ain' be it lurthir enacted, by the authority stud said, that to case the crown of these tcalms shall at any time dencend to her bald i THE NATIONAL REGISTER Majesty Caroline Amelia Elizabeth, then, and in such case, this present Act, and all the matters and things contained therein, shall become utterly void and of no Oh et, and the whole of the Preamble thereof shall be It erred and taken to be false, calumnious, utool scanda lous, upon the same evidence on which it hat Ii now been held to be sotfliciently proved." (Loud cheering, with some cries of order.) Lord COLVILLE (of Culross, in Scotland, one of the Scotch Peers) ruse, with mooch warmth, to vindicate him self, and those who acted with him in favour or the Bill. lie said they w ere aspersed—they were wracked—by this motion. Ile wished, therefore, to know whether that Ncble Lind was in order. (Hear, hear.) lie was pin eeedi•ig, but was himself interropkd Ly Lord HOLLAND, who spole to order. The Noble Lord (Colville, of Culiose.) hail asked whether his NlO/le le/ tend um;s in order, but had no: shown him to he diger oleo hy, or pointed out 1100', which every Noble Lord was bound to do who tmk upon lion to interrupt another. (Load cheers.) The motion, he verily believed, might nut be Ugleeilllle to the Noirle Loud; but it did slot, on that i.ccomot, heroine disordeoly.(Hear, hear, hear.) Lord LAUDEISDALE, with great vehemence, sup pouted the objections to Lord King's clause. He yielded to no man flu loyalty, hot he thought this motion attacked every Peer who had supported the Bill; and it was the 111:11111eJ of cloaking it, rather than the 11101(101 itscif, which all must perceive to be roi-ordeoly. (Cheers.) Lord KING colloid not allow that any thing disorderly was conitaired in his climse. It aide ibed 110 111011%45 to any otoe except loyalty of which every one was, and justly might be, proud. It cooly affirmed what was the necessary consequence of loyal feelings, and assumed that their Lou olships, as loyal men, the 1110111e111 the Queen-Consort Lt cane, by MlCCessimi, Queen-Regnant, would change their belief respecting tier conduct. This was a Dect,sli y e4ll3e(llleoCe of their regard or the first principles of the Constitution, by which every Mona' . cal was deemed " most excell:mt." without nay regard to his conduct or character. _ _ The elcuse was negatived without a divisien, and the Chairman was du cceed to report the Bell. The House resumed, cud pestered the Report to be re ceived to-morrow. Tuunsmtv, Nov. 9. The Lord Chancellor twee. his sect on the woolsack a few rniiititti lecture evil o'clock. Prayers welt: read, anti the list was read uver. Apologies were made fur the Marquis of lier:ford. Lords Holland, Limerick, Huntingdon, and Motley, wlet were iudispmed. It pas then resolved, that any Pear might sign the Pro test this day. and that bred Holland Ail.llllll be allowed to sign it when lie was sufficiently recovered to attend the Hun .e. Lord SHAFTESBURY brought up the Report of the Committee. Ibe antendineots relating to the alteration of the name of Bergasei. wet e put and aeteed to. Lord LLLLN BUS:01:611 undeistood that many Noble Lot :Is hail voted lur the second reading of the Bill, in the uudeistauding that it would undergo such utudifi:•ation in the Committee, and the only atteroiou that had been made, was omittite , the article " the." lie therefore Loped, that those Noble Lords who bad voted for the se cond leading in the expectation ot the Bill being amended, would oppose its Wither progress. The Earl of LAUDERDALE could not help remon strating on the conduct of those Noble Lords who had ♦oted against the Bill, and yet voted fur the divorce clause. Dix Noble 1; lend ( Larl Grey) acknowledged that he had dune so with the view of getting rid of the 811 alt.p. , :ether. lie was 4stunislied that any Noble Lord could lend to ontell a tuck and Mallii.llere to get id of the bill. fie should like to know, on what [min i:Tie of consisteney those would act who voted for the second reading, and yet would appose the Wild reading of the Bill? GREV.—" My Leads—lt is not only with surprise, but with some degree of indignation tkat 1 have heard the charge in the Noble Lord who had Just sat down, who, from habits of friendship, ought to have know a me better than to accuse me of to tek and 1'1;11,u:ova« ! 'rite charge comes well hoot toot Noble Lind et ttabily ! But, my Litt dotty t wattle& dating the whole of this tiolortiniate investigation, :cud my vote, have been fair and open, and free !stoat trick or mancettsre ! Hut what shall we say to the nicks and iiianCtilVti.ll of those vt ha, to get votes fur the second leading of the Bill, held out hopes of altera tions and modifications in the Committee / The Noble Lot d on the woolsack, veto had made an eloquent speech in fivour of the illknisee hail, with the whole of the ea ministers, voted against the clause!—(Hear, hear). al:: Louis, 1 felt indignation and disdain, hind 1 also use ii stronger tette, at the charge of toy Noble Fitend? Had I hero, like the Noble Lind, a Lappin ter of the bill, 1 could have tilt no difficulty : the didietalty ith me was, that 1 was agaiast the bill; but still 1 thighs base slated smticiesit reasons for the vote, in my wish lint to add to the degredatima of royally, by degiading his Majesty, as well as Ilia courant. Li cry thing that 1 • has e firalli ; curly thing that 1 have head; and eve, y thing that 1 have thought uu tli. subject, has comfit med my original opinion on this measure. 1 had v,ded con :a:tenuously that 1 dud tint think the elterge against the Olivet) had beets made out ; and yet 1 found tnysell coin pelted to yule tor the di; oree clause, which might optical. In give my sanction to the charge. I stove with the Noble Load behind me (EllennutunAll), that those who voted for the second reading of the will, to the copes of its beim; /dieted in the ceininittee. have toot dueeived but, or eJtitse, there were em hicks, no manwevres its this. Thar Noble Lotils who have been thus di (wised, and indueell ti: pr. as the hill to a stage which it otlicr• wise would uev,y have reached, west, however, oppose the third leading of UT bill. 1 tonal, My Lords, L shall be excused if 1 have expressed Myself warmly; but, considt riug tlik chat ge made against toe, and the (ratter Uom wlivii t e it r.uue, 1 could out but feel it stsougly.— My also is to Nand with ni ILu House, and to discharge toy duty faithfully dud conscitutiously. Lord L4.I.II3EIIIMLE explained. If lie were capable on any account of loiying what could by possibility detract front the (711141113 C ter of his Nul.tv iend, if %%mild be ill finitely 'mae paitifill to liim Mau any thing that ever happened to hum iu the whole coin se of his lite. Let he had nut ti-ed the word waTurt hip trick. lie had only said, that it was a Pailiamentaty trick, often thradtlittl, and never, pet lisps, mute etleettially than on the pichent occasion. lle could spine his Noble Ellicott that, on all nectatOn%, lie could have but one feeling towilds bins, a feeling which had long existed, and me►t continue w it him to the end of hie lite. Lord 1.11/L• iI,POOL sjould fairly ask their Lordships whether, un any stage of this proceeding, he could be justly accused of holding out any expectations that had not been realised P He had merely stated, on the second reading of the Rill, that no Noble Lord ou.:111 to feel precluded frinu vuth g, because of any objections h,- might have to the pre• preamble, or In the chaise of divorce, both of which would be open to discussion in the Corainitti e. Ile hod always stated most distinctly, that the preunilde was, in his own opinion, most subsnoitially proved, and he could therefore 1/cber have held it out as his opinipo that any material alters wino would eventually take place Lord CA urtioit PE thought the vote which the Noble Earl ne,r him (Lord Grey) had given on the divorce climse was iwrfectly consistent with all that he had heard from hitu on the subject of the pioceeding. He avowed it , at the Hue time, to candour to his Majesty's Government, to lay, that hu could ant conceive anything more to - coming the Ministers of a country like this, than, when they f 1 any pa evious impressions of their own hostile to the public feuding —it teemed to be a tribute of public feeling—to vote as they had done yesterday. The divorce clause was undoubtedly at valiance with the religious prejudices of a very consider. able portion of the best informed and right judging part of the community. The LORI) CHANCELLOR said, that the only question ht-rote the flou,e was, wheliter a wo:d of three letters, tlin word " 11,e" should etttu.i port or the preasnlote or not F and lie did not iina4iue that much tight could have been thrown MI that point by the sort of canvass which had been goin, , , on, for he could call it nothing else, as to the votes oil the third reading of the _ _ The Duke of HAMILTON maid, it war necessary for hint to othte to the I lothe tint he objected to the Bill altogether. Ile, therefore, is ithtint entering into any discossimt upon the merits of so ohn aloft- .t proceeding, mould mealy move the omission of that part of tie preamble in which the words " adulterous ititcrcuurse" were mentioned. It might he supposed that he would al•o object to the part C1)111,i111111g an emoneratioll of the ponistitocuts to he indicicd upon a crime, which, in his °pita tttt had not boat legally and deo inonstratively proved. 111 this stage of the Bill he shoull nut do ,o, hut merely confine himself to what he had at tint proposed, find he should atterwardo wove it no a corolltey to the lot incr. The amendment, that the words " adulterous intercourse' be omitted, Wllll negatived. Lord 1 ITZWILLIAM said, the apulterous iutercptirse had, in his opinion, by no means been proved. But he cal led on those Noble Lords who held an opinion that her Ma jesty nas guilty, to limit th• period during which they con sidered that sh , • had been engaged in the criminal intercourse, to a pm tutu of time previous to the yeur itlli, as no piton( n hatevrr had been brougut forward of her conintiasicalion With Inc individual named in the Bill after tutu period.— 'l`sr retuse to adopt this principle would be extreme injustice to the multiunit:de accused. Lind CA liN A It VUN said lie had a clause le propose to to the Hiewe, for the propriety of which ilealsould refer to to the former conduct of both /louses el Parliament, it was, he obsci veil, most necessary to mark in the Bill the real cause of the present proceedings, which, certainly, would never have been entered upon hod her Majesty remained abroad. The nation well knew that Ministers had, is in conjancrion with another great burly occasionally con nected with them, supplicated the Queen to put an cud to the proceedings agaiiist her, by leaving the couutry, and that they had tarred her the stain of 40,0001. a year, upon the condition of her absence from this country. Whatever might be said to the contrary, his Majesty's Ntiniiters had made this proposition t and it was clear, that if the tempi, had been accepted, the country would never have heard more of the investigation. The Noble Lord then moved an 1111Wildtpellt, that there should lie introduced into the after the worst " atm acid," words to this tired : " That her Majesty bad refused she cam of 30,0001. a year out of the public money, prolferred to her us a (multiage from hoot Ititises of Parliamiatt." The Ansesidme , 4 was negatived without a division. Lard KING moved that there should be it claii.e intro duced to the folio's ing effect, after I .e wind " :the md,"— That ft'rlail. Lii;11211 Commissioners appointed at Milan, with an ttaliati Attorney named had colke:ol a mass falsc, calarani.san a it:let...es, who had lire,, produced and bad given false testimony at th. it Lordships' bar for many auks, wit-tell the di,uity of the Crown, the Natioci, mid the Parliament, had sidle' ed 4reat scandal and dishonours and that toe Huai e entr,ated tine it sihnild he row.frel that the pci3oant who bad acted on the Shoohl rendered fur ever incapable of nuaitim uay plar:. co pen sion whatever. The amendment wav negatived; and the whole in eatable having been gone through, the !lame adijoitrai.d. fitl.ll. 14 Eit MA' TiIIUD REALINti OF TIIE PAINS AND PRAALTIES HILL, AN!) ITS REJECTION. NOV. The ]louse met this thilfilltig at the usual hour, %rhea pra}etc sterereitil, and tile list valleil user as usual tin the Order 01 the for ft ailing of the BA being read, and the tillt.',lloll being put, Earl MORLEY rose, and said, he had conceived it ne cessary that sonic enquiry sauuld take place into the con duct of her Alajcsty, and that his Majesty's Ministers were called upon to institute such an enquiry i and thinkin,t• n!su that the ineasure• taken in Parliament were the most likely to investigate the subject fairly, he had given bit vote for the en.ptiry. lie had, however, on Monday la . ", upposcil the second, as he now intended to oppose the thud readidg et the Sal l, because he did not think the facts hilly, ur as they ought to have been, inecoitestiiily proved. It ever the pi iiiciple was admitted of divorcing the hog ur the Queen, except in eases where.the public safety required it, what daii4ers wo u ld th e y not run? The ..ecority of the Throne anti the safety of the State itself v.ueJd thus be ha zarded. No man was inure sensible of the advantages of •trtue and moral character in the Sovereign than himself, but these were out 61.1'4 1.0 the adi :ionises of hereditary suc cession. 'flio Noble Luid concluded by opposing the tin"' reading or the Bill. _ laud SONIUIt.S spoke at some length in favour of the as it seeined to him that the adul ery had hi eii fully proved, au opinion, he li2ld, which had beets Jiso deelar by sev , 141 utile lords wl,e, Mid voted against the cce•ood of the Bill. Ills Lordship concluded by observing, that though some of theebidcuce %as rat lwr conti adictory, as, for instance, that of Cuchi, yet, upon the whole, he felt conscientiously bound to veto fur tbu passing of tbe . . Karl FORTESCUE said, that it was with much pain that