The National Register. — London, England, 1821-02-25 00:00:00

new; Sunderland and Yarmouth were now in fact under the operation of similar nets.—All other species of prom rt' in !lull were liable to the noes, and the shipping brought the paupers in the Hull rate—si by should the shipping then be exempted? Mr. F. LEWIS declared, that he must protest against this bill altogether—he must most deridedly I a - st agaited any other species of property being subjected to the pay ment of the poor's rate The poor laws themselves had occasioned misery that he believed would not have existed but for those laws. The second rending was postponed to Tuesday stoonicht. Mr. WARNE obtained leave to bring in a bill to amend the general inclosura act. ROMAN CATIIOLIcs.—Sir J. NEWPORT gave notice, that on Wednesday, the 28th inst. the right lion. member fur the uuivetsity of Dublin (Mr. Plunkett) would stove that the pc • ' ns of theßionanCat holies of Ireland, respect ing the civil disabilities under whirls they hammed, be taken into consideration. Lord NUGENT gave notice, that on the same evening he should call the attention of the house to the petition of the Suglish Roman Catholics. LICENSING 14 A GISTRATES.—Mr, G. BENNETT moved, that die clerk of the short hand writer engaged before the police committee of that house, to give evidence from the notes in the court of King's Bench in the indictment pre ferred by Mr. Meek, a publican, against Messrs. Collins, Conant, &c. for depriving him of the Demise of his house in Clerkenwenwell, should attend at their bar. It tins n ease that ought to go to a jury; and as the minutes had been printed, what reason could there be for refusing the leave to the short hand writer to attend ? Mr. WTNNE was favourable to the appointment of a committee to enquire whether the proposition could be and ought to be complied with.—(Hear, hear.)—Motion wtilidraw Mr. G. BENN ETT moved for accounts of the convictions and executions for forging bank mutes; of the number of persons who pleaded guilty to the minor offence during the last Once years. Also an accoute of the number of persons sent to Botany Bay t and of every grant of land above lOU acres, made in New South IV:tics. specifying the name of the grantee. Likewise an aaciiiiiit of the births, deaths, awl marriages in that colony.—Severally ordered. Sir J.NEW PORT moved, as as resolution of the house, that the army, navy, and ordnance estimates he presented w idth s IS days after the meeting of Parliament. Mr. CIIETWYN DE moved for n return of fines enforced by the Cow t of King's Bench, those levied, and nn :irritant of the appropriation of the same. He moved for this ac count to remove many erroneous impressions ; for annoy believed that those floes to the King went into his Majesty's pocket t whereas they went to the Deno and Chapter of Westminster, and were received by the High Bailiff of Westminster. He wanted to know bow the Crown came to part with snch fines. Account ordered. The report of like committee respecting allowances to Judges, Officers, &c. in the courts in Ireland, was brought up, read, and a,ireed to, and bills ordered accordingly. The house went into u committee on the Sax and cotton acts, in which Mr. Lushington moved the continuance of the present duties for two years longer. Resolution agreed to—report to-morrow. Mr. HUME gave notice, that on March 20 be should move for leave to brim.; in a hill to disqualify certain officers in the oidnance from voting for members of Parliament. Mr. C GRANT. in a committee, moved a grant of 27001. to the clerk of assize, Ireland, in lieu of till fees. Agreed to Report to-morrow. Variant. estimates. explanatory of the ordnance and other estimates, were presented. Ordered to he printed. Mr. HUM E moved for returns of the Tower and Pail Mall service (ordnance) ; of the royal laboratory, Wool % ich, &c. Ordered The other orders of the day were then read; after which the house adjourned. TUESDAY, WEB. 20. Petitions complaining of agricultural distress from Coin wall, and four other places in that comity; from Doncaster, Warvi ickshire, age. were presented. Sir I. COFFIN said, if the gentlemen who presented these valions petitions would advise the tenants to lay aside the character of gentlemen, and lesuille that of farmers;—if they resumed smock frocks, and return to old planners, there would be some chance of a return of aid customs. Mr. Ald. C. SMITH said, this had already been done, yet so extelisive was the distuesa, that the farmer was little better than a day.labotirer. NICIT }ANN Nteres.—Mr. CURWEY inquired whether there was any tenth in the rumour that the plan tor the proposed new Bank note,: had failed wholly, or in part, and why Mr. Applegartles plan wits neglected. hie. 1). GILBERT replied, that the commissioners continued to he indefatigably engaged. The difficulties they had to contend with were great -they had to produce what, it would be hoped, perverted o uity could not Imitate—and they still expected that they slioutil eventu ally succeed. As to Mr. Applegai tles plan, arrorditig to which many notes might be shtick off at once, it pos sessed great mei it, as far as bemiring Ilie identity of Ilie notes was concerm,,l, but in other respect a it was very defective. The conuni.siimeia had to took to other quar ters for information, and it was impossible lot Mein to state immediately what Inither progress had been made. Sir I. COFFIN urged the necessity ut soinuthiug being ituniedintely dune. Mr. CURWEN hoped that a report woniil soon be made of the prowess really made by the commissioners. It this a ere not thane, he should deem it his duty to move fur all communications made on this subject to the coma- Inissioners. Mr. LITTLETON moved for leave to intrmitice a hill to regulate Chute!' Briefs. 'fur system had been useful, but it was such now that it might to be amended or abo lished.—Motion agreed to. Mr. DENMAN hit esented a very strongly-worderl peti tion from No1011(411311', complaining of the condole, of ministers, and the deplorable state of the nation, produced by their impolitic and imbecile measures. Petition read, anti ordered to lie on the table. On the motion that it be minted, Mr. C. W VNNE said, he could not consent to the plioliog of a petition that spoke of IMIsOIiS having been unjustly executed, Mr. 6. Ith:NNETT protested against this new-fangled doctrine. Petitions had lit - octant e brim minted as mat ter of right. What Mr. Whitbread had ho tald si ailed likely to take place-.that ss nice eats" might complain or particular 1%0346 Ns a giousid hot sejectilig petitions alto gether. Lord SIDINING said, If Outright were as matter of THE NATIONAL REGISTER course, where was the use of putting the question whether the petition he printed? Sir H. WILSON was not prepared to justify all 01(- 8110ra/ions of the petition, bet he knew that men had built cut down without redres4 being obtained. Lord CAS'l'Llni EMI!! said, he was astooklied at the intemperite address that had j•rst been hi aril. It thet.• were men at large who hail rot iiiii itted murder, vk ithout charges having been preferred against them, why had not the hon. general ovenvicil liim.elf in preferring sue!' charges ? As to the defence extended to the authorities of Manchester, he should always glory in his share of that transaction. Sit IL WILSON a-serted nothing that lie was not pre pared to prove. He had charged those wlto inter' elided the meeting of the Hith of August t%llll murder, and lie was prepared to establish that chat ge, oi abide by the remit of failiere.—(Hear.) Mr. 11. WILBRAHAM remarked that bills had nut even been preferred against the magistrates before the grand jury. Mr. PHILLIPS said he hail made inquiry respecting the events at Manchester, and his conviction was, that the accounts of those melancholy events had not been exag gerated. If the bills had been preferred before juries in any oilier county, he 1111101 questioned whether the results would nor leave beset diffeieut. Mr. S. WORTLEY observed, if the gallant general had the proof of der is his nocket—(Sir H. W." I did not say I had the proof in my e acket.") It he were piepared with proof, why not adduce it before grand jury alter grand jury, till a bill was found ? Or why was an action for au ushattit out preferred ? He thought these matters were mentioned only for the pin poses of inflammation. Sir It. WILSON asked, if the lion. member had lost a wife, a son, or a brother, by violent means, would he be satisfied with bringing an action for an assault ? Mr.IIROUG HAM would not express his approbation or disapprobation of the pi ; hut he denied that its letup:see was such, respecting the conduct and suensures of ministers, as to warran! the reipction of the motion.— As to the events connected with Nianeliester, he repeated, that no occurrence hail so much affected the 6piniull of the people as those events, and the " pretended legal" proceeding that followed them. They had given the go vernment a shock which, la therto, it bad nut recovered. Mr. DEN MA N tephrd , that he never had, as some mete bervieem to imagine, complained of the language of the pe tition. It had indeed been a question is ith him whether the hou-e is mild receise it. If/miller it ryas respectful to the house, and whet: er it was true, where IN.) ilitlerent ques tions. The strongest language was, were it add that the woes and wails of the people had been met by the sword, and individuals had been consigned to dungeons and scaffolds for complainog. He admitcd that inuividuals had been seduced into 11C111 of rebellion—hut by whom ? By spies, who had been too successful in their eiforti. (Cheers.) If, therefore, this motion' faded, it would lie on a false plea.— But it was remarkable that the government had Boor ili,ll - inquiry of any out. The assertions of the ministers had been disproved—particularly the facts that eat-loads of stone. , had been found in the field, and magistrates tram pled under foot. ( !tear, hear !) rae noble lord ou:lit henceforth to be careful haw he received ea -paste statements. If the petition w re proper• to be received, w Well it load already been admitted, it ought to he printed The petitions were printed fire the use of members. They might get into the hands of others. 11 hat had occurred during the debate Might reach the public, but was that to continua the deci sion, as regarded theniaelvev ? Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. After which the house divided on the question, whether the petition should be printed in the journals of the House. he numbers were— Forit 6l Against it 130 Majority agaiust the motion ....-86 MANCHESTER SEFFEREBO.—Mr. 110131IOUSE asked why there had been a refusal of application to permit Mr. Johnson to go to see his dying wile, proper security being offered for the return? The ATTORNEY GENERAL replied, it was found to be impossible to comply with the request; there %%elle no other means but a full pardon, or a remission of the sentence, a great part of which still remained. I. NEATER SIREIHEE.—Mr. GREEVEY brought forward his promised motion respecting the conduct of the sheriff of CM -Ayr, in refusing to put the address RUOVCd by Lord Grosvenor at the Chester meeting, as " irrelevant."— The address was Ins al enough, ben it complained of the measures pursued by the government. The sheriff, with sat potting the addiess, declared the other address to have been curried. After some remarks fawn Mr. Egerton, Mr. F.. Wilbra ham, pie. tho motion for A committer was decided upon. Greilfell's motion for accounts of bank balmees. &o. having been gone through, and the papers ordered, die noose itiljoitri.ed. e WED-NS:SHAY. FE*. Yl. Mations were presented front orettpietv of land in S noel-sett:lli re, Yorkshire, and Lilantorgainliti r,,oniphiii ing anticulioral littaAtil'AsT WILSON asked whe ther it wua the intention of the treasury to esitotec the constructio n that had liven pot on the Excive law, tutich• log imitation coder., an excellent pit paration, called breakfast pow 'let, having been held to nc a violation of Ilia, act? Mr. LUSHINGTON replied, that the decision in ti.. case or Mr. Henry Hunt was so recent, that he did nut know what the intentions of the Treasury sere on the subject. Sur H. IVILtON gave notice, that if nothing efficient were 'unposed, lie should move for the toptat ut the üb• noxious clause. TlAluElt invEs.—General GASCOYNE presented a petition from ship owners of Liverpool, against any of the timbre duties. Petition read, mid ordt•led to iie printed. Lord ALIIIORP obtained leave to bring in a bill to improve the jurisdiction of county courts, and to atlord tir•!t tOr the tecow•ty or sinail debts. .Ir. 1 3 1 10 V411 , V11 gave notice, that, after the Not then) Circuit, %huh Ile should hat e to attend, lie should again tiling toils aid the subject of the education of the lower As'l• l : 3 .—Sir J. MACKINTOSH brought foriVilld hi% iy.;pt.rs resiirciiiig the hy toi• lights too at d 4 the Allies regaiiiiiig N , 1.1t - 1.• Tile low" ullriovoked and unlit:10(0w. a 4 ;g:11.1,1,:11 bt I by Mr Allies that Initartl avy 1 . ,J111,43 oi !nowt,. It LP- Mut NI that Itutue to tale cote that 1110 cuuotry should Hut be considered as hawing pat tiripaied in so dishononrable a proceeding 4 11101 r—it heroine them to ascertain whether the niiiiisters of England had done all that could be done to prevent war from once inure afflicting Europe. Wile. ther the Neapolitans. w Ito hail imitated the civil institu tions of Spain, would also cope their military eines pn ige, events must determine; but there was nut chance full. them except retiring to the faatedness ant! there contend against dist iplined myriads. 'th e y had dared to resist the allied Monarchs, who assumed the power of lords psraitioutit, and viLo required pr inces and people to Le !heir slaves, — the odious, the flagitious, and the tyrannical triumvirate of Troppan and Laybach. Those powers had exposed their real sentiments to the exeeration of mankind. The sentimetits avowed by the Allied Sovereigns were repug nant to all national pilot iiiles—to all the laws of nations If Ihcy ee ere ii cognised, mankiml would become the slay, s of the iiiitinvitate of Ttoppait. (Cheers.) They eqpalled, if they did not surpass any thing ever attempted or done by Napoleon. But what sort of change did the noble lard exhibit, in his circular, against his former friends? It was not less than this—that the King of England should agree to plans which would warrant the introduction Gt• foreign troops hue this country without the knowledge or consent of pat liainent, should there be civil commotior, ur, what bud minkters might choose to call, revolinionai y commotion. Was there a drop of blood ill their veins that did nut buil ot the thought of ouch proposal—to agree to introduce foreign bayonets to adjust civil and domestic disputes? Those Sovereigns said more, that they lidd no doubt of the consent of the • inters of his Mil:111111 . 0 Majesty. That was the plain English of what the circular said to have been the proposition of the Allied Sovereign.. He wanted to know what was the language of those pro positious, therefore he moved for documents to know what Plinces Me tternich and Hardenbargh really had required. As far as he understood the noble lord's cir cular, his lordship's indictment against the Sovereigns and their ministers—they had proposed what was " repugnant to the fundamental laws ut this country." What was repugnant? What could it allude to lint the recognition of the principle, that tinder pailicular circumstances the introdllCtlOD of foreign hoops into this country would be jiraitied. Note what had given the foreign ministers reason to believe that our ministers would assent to any such ariangement? That was the enquiry lie instituted ; that was the point regarding which he wanted informa tion. '1 here most have been some toleration of—lie would not say connivance ut sentiments that led to the supposition that civil propositions would not he very impalateable. Hut there were acts to speak for our ministers—even if they would not grant information ; the ministers bad refused the new minister of Naples, the Prince Cimitelli. ( Hear, bear.) Did not such cii cuinstances show that our ministers were " ready to wound, but afraid to strike." (Cheers.) The troth however was, that there were no refusals forwarded on diplomatic furciog, except where the changes in kingdoms were in favour of liberty.— (Continued cliceta.) 'these 1i11.13 were the grounds on which he founded his right to call for further information. —lle concluded with moving for a series of documents illustrative of Lord Castlereagh's circular to the Allied Sovereigns. Lord CASTLEREAGH replied to Sir J. Mackintosh, and was followed by Sir It. Wilson, Mr. S. Wortley, ?Ir. Tierney, Mr. Robinson, Mr. J. W. Ward, and others. After a reply from Sir J. Mackintosh, the House di vided, and the tintubers were.—For the motion 125 Against it 194.—Majority against the motion 69.—Ad. journed at one o'clock. TSIURCDAY, FE$. 22. Pelitious were presented front the owners and occupiers of land, at Hustings, Fervershain, Kent, Ashford, Devon shire, Bic. complaining of ti , o icultural distress.—Severally rend and ordered to he printed. " Sir M. W. RIDLEY gave notice that on Thus Any, March 15, he should move to repeal so much of the 59th Geo. 111. as regarded the compounding of the assessed 01,1105. IS he heard that the subject were under the consideration of the treasury, he shotild nut press his motion. Mr. LUsIIINGTON replied that the subject was under the eunsidernitiou of the treasury .—(llear.) .5 message ( the Lords stated that they their Lordships had agreed to the QUePII . 6 Anuuity Hitt without any umeno uteot, the :11alt &c. Lord CASTL LIM AGII, in answer to Mr. Western's in. quiries stated 11131 lhr subject of exteedon4 to certain counties tile benefit of additional assizes, wa, uutler the serious cum. nderation of Government. Ki Lb: AIN HAM NI err tx G.--Lord J. RUASELL 11111ii7liiiit to notice, to present a petition 11'0111 the county of eusuplaiiiim; of the Vtiolciit diver:4lAl of the Kil mainlizini meeting, convened fur the purpwe tit voting a loyal address to th,. King. Tore petitioners oriel ied the com plaint to that louse, because they thought the mutter oat not to peistilial na:tire, but affected the C.oistitutinei And (lie Whole country. liis I.ordslolis obsei sot, that it ass 111 ,1 stuporoot to defend the right of pi:kola. County meetings Were particularly aotlhy of pinteclion. Toe opioliquos onus said, particularly the noble Lord, in. etel , get did not express the sense of the country. ill!, opsituiticitine rattier late s—teiderd it OW: abo b 1111 l ethilig teat I. t h e ad herons ofmivastrrs had liisleitlfOlt., abet the. could liaise their meetings l'ollbeied, declared that the) -poise the ,rise of the people. But this tipiiiion oiailio.l CAW - ebbed till the ,uppio ter, of ministers had found 111 cm-rises to tie beaten in all d reetitnis. (Ileac.) 'Theo it oak, nod tint before, that the ministers discoverol COO lit) meetings to afford in proof of the sentiments of the peco b le ; then k was. Mill not berme, that the grapes wet a ile.corered to be inn r. The lioble turd then proceeded to . etail the events of the meeting . , us detailed in the petition. The High Shelia haul trtlesed to put :lir. 11 roes nmendnieut ; mid aft. swards abruptly retired, requiting all loyal men to folio** his ex ample. Lord Chicon r* on, then voted to the chair ; but bis Lordship and the forth:older. **ere compelled top lone by the military, Who acre ed in est.*, into font to disperse the meeting Once. 'file conduct 0. the one, I: o g had IN en perfectly orderly. If these our,. fai if these siutemelits acre true—then h th 041.1 the hunt a told be 1111113 t to adopt a 1. optitni o (skit I.e bhubld ' , formic after Mk presented the pet it pl.a—t hat it be lefeired la A OM. 'mike to enquire into the necuraey of the allegationw con tained Yu the pronouns. Complaints had been poefereed to the };iv el rind./ r rape. tenA the violent shape:* nu of the op eetaig —Um( the a1...1*cl ** i s 6 hail been to:mortal,' (IWO the sel(-. same auliwuues that had furoaroed atth such to...athlete. I u,ie, thanlss to the sinegiit ales gild ).owatery of 4444Kletits* Itl—(hchti lona. ) those nutliurities had i et us mil lot Ausurf. If throngs h,.d been conimittsd remedies souk+ he *obtained from the loos —Hut Admitting that to be true, abo aetc In begs the espowe 0f plain.. led low snits/ ( Per totifiettating vi lege ) I' 1