The National Register. — London, England, 1822-07-15 00:00:00

THE NATIONAL ItEGISTEIt If the invention had merit, doubtless die individual would find his reward in the public patronage. Mr. H. SUMNER would not oppose the petition ; but the invention now under consideration, at Woolwich, was superior in leis opinion. Petition read and ordered to lie on the table. The Leather Duties Reduction Bill was read a second time s acid ordered to he committed for Thursday. The Loan Bill ; the 5 per Cents. ; snd the Charge of Pen sions, were severally teported, and ordered to he read a third time to-morrow. The Duchy of Cornwall Bill went through a committee.— Repert to-morrow. The Exchequer Bills (Public Works) Bill went through • committee. Report received ; ordered to be takeu into further consideration on Monday. The Irish Distress Mil was read a first time. Ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. The Excise Licences Bill was read a third time and passed ; —the bill regards malting-houses, exempting the same from the proposed additional duty. The Scotch, Spirits Exportation Bill went through a com mit ee. Mr. G. BENNET presented the report of the members' re turns committee—detailing the membera who hold pl ices, the amount of the same, &c. Ordered to be printed. Receivers'-General Bill went into a committee. A good deal of conversation took place on various of the clauses, in which Mr. Hume, Mr. Lushington, ix.c. took part. Mr. 1112 M E was particularly against that clause which pro posed to fern] an aggregate fund to defray al•owances to such individuals as might be removed, and as might have had sala ries from 3to 6001. He contended that the country receipts might be made through the excise officers. Mr. LUSHINGTON said, lie had no objection to acquiesce in many of the suggested alterations. If the principle of the excise system of securities wee adopted, there would tint he such ample securities ; there were securities now received front the receivers to the amount of sixteen millions. Mr. HUME said this was no objection. The securities were so euormous, that they deterred proper individuals from be coming receivers. As to the tax board, lie contended, that expensive as it was, it was wholly neelese. The PReceiver General might be done without, in his opinion ; but he bowed to the report of the committee that had been instituted on this subject. Sir J. NEWPORT stated, that the office of Receiver General had been abolished in Irelaell ; the payments were made direct ti the Bank in Ireland. Why could not similar arrangement* be made in Englniet. Mr. C. LONG spoke in favour of the bill in its present shape. After some further remaiks, the several clauses, with some verbal alterations, were agreed to. BREACH or Pit I V ILLGE.—Mr. W. COURTENAY then rose to complain of a breach of privilege. The transaction arose out of Mr. Abercromby's motion respecting the Lord Advocate's and the Government's conduct towards the public press; the prosecution of Mr. Stuart, Bortliwiclt, the printer, &c. The first breach of privilege was contained in the letter of Mr. Hope, Advocate Depute. who replied to Mr. Abercroinby's remarks about the trial of Mr. Stuart, charging the inferences drawn by Mr. A. from the abandonment of the trial of Borthwick to be unwarrantable, &c. The expressions used were very strong, and such as interlercd with the freedom of debate, and the pri vileges of members ; besides they were calculzted to lead the - parties into personal contact. He therefore mnoved that certain passages of Mr. {lope's letter were breaches of the privilege of that house ; and that Mr. hope do attend the bar of that house on Wednesday next. Considerable conversation arose as to the authorship, and • and whether it would not be better to allow time, as the party might have something to say in vindication, Mr. Vv'y•iin, Mr. Brougham, taking part in it ; but eventually it was deemed that such postponement was unuecessary, and Lord Binning ex pressed hi, belief that the whole of the letter was Mr. Hope's, and that Mr. H. would be prepared to acknowledge whatever be might have done. - - The passages were voted to be in breach of the privileges of that House , and Mr. llope was ordered to attend the bar to morrow se'nuigbt. Mr. W. COURTENAY was proceeding with a second com plaint against Mr. Menzies, also one el the Lord Advocate's Deputies, who has made a like char: , against Mr. Abercrombv's statements and inferences, calling them wilful, false, middle like. Lord LONDONDERRY however thought, as the tendency of such letters could not he matter of question, as they were calculated t . bring tha parties into personsl contact, that it would he becoming in the House to order the attendance of Mr. Ahercroroby in his place forthwith. This motion was agreed to, and the order was immediately made out for the attendauce of Mr. Abercromby in his place in that house forth .vith. Mr. AV. COURTENAY then submitted his motion against Mr. Menzies, which, after some conversation as to forms, was agreed to, and Mr. 31. was also ordered to attend the bar to morrow se'nnight. After these motions had been agreed to, the messenger of the house (Mr. Spitler) returned and stated at the bar that he ' had been to Mr. ibercromhy's house ; that Mr. A. was from I bourn ; that be left home between twelve and two ; and that it wag believed he bad gone from town in a post chaise towards ll:rnet. SCOTEII COTTAGE TAN.—bnol A. HAMILTON afterwards moved for leave to bring in a bill to repeal the Scotch Cottage Tax of 4s. 6d. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed it on the grounds that the plans of the year had been submitted to be House and agreed to ; that to adopt this motion would tend to disturb eliding arrangements ; and that it would he to en courage partial taxation, as the Scotch Cottage would be re moved, while a similar tax remained in En A lund. Mr.!. GRANT supported the motion. Mr. LOCK HART took the view of the motion similar to what was expressed by the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Mr. HOME was in favour of the motion, because be was persuat!cd that the most erectile! means awaking the Ministers reduce the expenditure, was to limit the means. Lord A. HAMILTON then rose to propose a resolution for the repeal of ►he house duty of four shallop; and sixpence on cottages in Scotland, under the value of 31. annually, The noble lord urged the necessity of this repeal, bat on the sug gestion The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, promised to jive the !object his consideration iu the recess. The noble load with the leave of the Iluuse, withdrew his motion. TUE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY.—Mr.WESTERN said he world not, in the present state of the House, and at PO late • period of the evening press his resolutions on the subject, but would postpone his motion tall to-morrow, and if it could nut be cooveuieutly brought forward then, to a future day. The House then resolved itself again into a committee ero the Receive-General's Hill. Mr. HUME moved, as ae amendment, ►hat the salar► to the receiver., should in no ease be Isla than 3001. or more than 6001. including expenses ; as the clause stood in the bill, 3001. additional might be allowed for expenses, at the discretion of he treasury. Mr. R. SMITH wished to know why the lion. gent. opposite (Mr. Lushiegton) bad not, is the construction of the bill before the house, redeemed his own pledge, and followed up the recommendation of the committee. The committee had .li sided upon one point ouly—whether the salary, expenses in cluded, should be 6001. a year, or tem. a year; and on that point the bun gent. who took the part of Government in the cow mute had been left in a minority. The pltn proposed by the committee had been not only practicable, but highly ads iseable. Mr. H. GURNEY thought that 6JOI. a year would not always be suflioieet. There were many cases in which the expenses of a district would amount to nearly all the money. Mr. HANK ES thought it extraiirdimtry that Government should bare been 12 months in discovering that the plan of the committee wits impracticable. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER defended the *lterations in the bill, and the wanner in which they had been made. After some discussion the amendment was withdrawn, and on the proposal of Mr. Lushington a clause was introduced and agreed to, authoriain4 the Treasury to make au allowance of 2s. per mile travelling expenses, and one guinea per day %bast travelling. The remaining orders were szreed to without opposition.— The house resumed, and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The other orders were disposed of, and the Home adjourned. WEDNESDAY. JULY 10. Mr. CURTEIS presented a petition trout the hop-growers of 1 , Sussex, praying for an alteration of the laws regarding the marking of hop-sacks, &c. The Loan Bill was read a third time and passed, as were the Charge of Pensions Bill, the• Five per Cents. Repayment Bill, the Grossing Produce Bill, &c. The Temporary Advances Biil was read a second time and ordered to be committed to-morrow. THE LATE QUEEN'S SERVANTS.—The 1108.18 went into a Committe of Supply. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought for ward the proposed allowances to her late Majesty's servants. — lie went into some details of the sums. There were other ser vants to whom it was proposed to make an allowance of one year's wages. He, however, should conclude on the present occasion with moving, that there be granted to defray the pen sion, 2,2101. 12s, After some remarks as to the form, the resolution was agreed to, and the report ordered to be received to-morrow. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved, that the Stamp Duties Bill he re-committed. Agreed to. Mr. HUME, the house beit ' , in a committee, said, that there was scarcely one clause in the bill which did not merit animad version ; but the most objectionable psrt of the bill was that which reduced the allowance for taking stamps above the amount of 301. to 30s. per cent. to 20s. Ile was the less able to cent prehend the principle of this change, because the customary allowance to distributors, who required no capital, and who had no risk, was continued at 41. per cent. Mr. BRIGHT suggested that it would be adyiseable to post pone this bill. as many members who were interested in it were absent from the house, not expecting that any discussion would come on to-day. especially at so early an hour. The CHANCELLOR of the EUCHEQU ER had no objection to postponement. Bill ordered to be committed on Monday. The Stage-coach Bill was ordered to be read a third time to morrow. The House went into a committee on the Lotteries Bill.— Report to-morrow. Mr. HUME hoped this would be the last Lottery Bill.---It was against the feeling of the public. The report of the Receivers General was presented. Bill re-committed. Report to-morrow. Mr. G. LAMB presented a petition from certain persons ageiust the Retail of Beer Dill. Mr. BUXTON expressed himself decidedly against the bill. Mr. HUME was io favour of it. The public, as well as the brewers, merited protection. Mr. MONCK was of a like opinion. lie thought if the bill was fairly made known, there would not he a man in the • country against it. 1 A'Aer some remarks from Mr. Lockhart and Mr. H. Carney, Mr. BROUGHAM said that he desired the amplest discus -1 slim to be extended to this bill. If this bill passed, there would not he one public Imese more than now existed ; it was • to enable shops to eel! beer. If public bosses kept to their proper letainess, they would be exclusively engaged in selling beer in their houses ; the shops would supply out door cus tomers. Should time be given, lie apprehended iliat there would be a ditreeence of opinion between the brewers them selves as to this hill. As to the petitioning, lie understood that there was a petition about to be presented from the pnbli cans and innkeepers on the Dover-road against the steam bunts being allowed to carry passengers to (habil and elsewhere, whereby their trade was materially injured.—(clear and laugh ter.) The bill, however, was of considerable importance, and he should endeavour to bring it forward on Tuesday. Petition, which was from country brewers, was then rend. WINK. TRADF.—W. S. WORTLEY said, a duty bad leen imposed on woollen cloths by the the fortes of Spain, which gave the government of that country a great advantage in the wine trade. He wished to know whether any negociation had taken place, and whether the result had been fay , irable to this country. If it it had not, he should early in the next session call the attention of the House to the subject. Lord LONDONDERRY said, be admitted die importance of the question. He staled, that negociations on the subject were pending. No exertions on the part of the government should he wanting to bring those urged:diens to a successful concksion If the contrary should he the case, thee he should expect to hear of the queetioe next sesssion. Mr. BENISON observed, that, in the early part of the pre seot acasion, be brought forward a :.roposition for a third gaol delivery, in parts of the kingdom, in the course of the year. Ile was then told that a plan Was in contemplation to meet the the dilliculties ;—he now wished to learn whether that plan hail been matured. Lord LON DONDERRY said, that, in the absence of his right hon. frien I, Mr. Peel, be could only revly, that such a plan hail been ender consideration, and In believed it was su nearly matured that it might be expected to he acted upon in December nest. Mr. NOLAN II nen rose to bring forward his motion on the subject of the poor laws. That some amendment was required all seemed to admit; there appeared to be a general cry for some alteration. Ile (bought that et least they were bound la attempt to do something. ' The pouulatiour of the ceuntry had 229 greatly increased ; 30 per cent. within the last twenty years.— The poor rates *moulded to near eight me:lions, ■nd something ought to be done to meet the dead weight of such a charge. — About the time of Elizabeth all the coontries of Europe had made extra efforts to provide for the poor; but England had been foremost amongst civilised cuuutries in pros iding the requisite protection for the poor. To that fact was owing the superior civilization of England's workieg and poor classes.-- To secure the efficiency of such arrangement, they ought to make some efforte. He concluded with moving fur leave to bring it, a bill to amend the poor laws. Lord LONDONDERRY agreed to the motion, The sub ject required amendment—hue he thought it would be batter to postpone any discussion till the bill was brought in and printed. —Motion adopted. Mr. PEEL moved deli the report of the Alien's Regulation Bill be received. Mr. BERNAL wished ►he business to be postpened. Mr. SCARLETT said he had to propose four new clang's, which went to limit the powers ander the bill, to afford aliens an opportunity of knowing what the charges sr4aiost them setae. Mr. PEEL opposed the clauses, as they went to limit the powers of government, which would deprive the hill of its main efficacy. The House divided on the first cheese. The ',embers wer e, —For it 13—Against 39—Rejected by a majority of 26. Mr. WESTERN brought forward his resolution, declarator♦ of the state of agriculture, and the transfer of property that resulted from Mr. Peel's bill. The hon. gent. entered at con• siderable length into a repetition of the arguments nsed ley him on a former night on this subject ; lie contended that without a rise in prices the agriculturist roust inevitably be ruined ; and that the ruin impending over them conid only be averted by increasing the amount of circulating medium, the rapid reduc tion of which was the occasion of our present diflicalties. The hon. member concluded by moving a long string of resolutions, expressive of his opinion on Ws important subject. Mr. RICARDO opposed the resolutions, and contended that the distress was not occasioned wholly by the change of the currency, bat to other circainstanees combintil with it. The alteration might make a difference as between landlord and tenant, bat taken generally, it did not affect the country, as all other things had altered in the same proportion. Sir F. BURDETT enrnestly supported the resolutions. Mr. WESTERN shortly replied ; after a hich the gallery was cleared for a division, the House did not diehle, all the reso lutions being negatived. The House adjourned at a quarter before 6 o'clo-k. rituttsnav, JULY 11. There being only 32 members present at four o'clock, the SPEAKIt R declared the House to stand adjourned till tomorrow. FRIDAY. JULY 12: Papers respecting the petty sessions of Ireland, &c. a era presented. Mr. WILMOT brought in the New South \Vales Duties' Bill. Read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Monday. Mr. Sheriff GARRAT presented a petition from the Common Council of the City of London, comp!aining of the Orphan's' Fund Bill having been presented ttithout their knowledge, and praying against its hcieg adopted by that House. The further consideration of the report on the Government and Trade of Canada Bill was pos•poned till Monday. The Leather Duties Reduction Bill went through a committee. Repot,. on Monday. Most of the dropped orders were then rend and fitted for Monday. The Temporary Advances Bill (Ireland) went throttgh a Committee.—Report on Momlay. The Salt Duties Repeal Bill went into a committee. Report on Monday. THE LaTe Qutesi's SERVANTS.—The report of the resolu tion for allowances to the servants of her late Majesty the Queen having been brought up, Mr. HUM E suggested that as vacancies occurred in the 95,0001. pension list, her late Majesty' s servants shook d be charged on that fund, and the consoli dated fetid be relieved from the charge now About to be brought upon it. Dr. LUSIIINGTON said he was happy that her late Majesty' servants (of the lower classes) had not bees forgotten by Lis Majesty's ministers ; but it was p 'fitful to him to observe, that though the lower classes bad been provided for, all her confi dential servants of high rank, had been passed over in silence. He thought they should have been provided fur, as the late Queen's servants had been. Many of there individuals, after hating served their late royil mistress for sin or seven years, or longer, were now, by the loss of their salaries, reduced to the greatest inconvenience ; and such was the melandioly state of her late Majesty's pecuniary tilfairs, that there was not sudi eient to pay to her servants, t ' i - a arrears of wages due to them. lie trusted these circumstances would nut escape the attention of Parlinment. Mr. LOCILHART complained, that whilst some of her late Majesty's servants were entirely pissed over in silence, others were extravagantly provided for.—M. xicard, for instance, had on unreasonable pension of 4091. a year. The CH ANCEI,LOR of the EXCHEQUER said this allow. once was assigned to M. Sicard tiering her Majesty's life. Dr. LUSHINGTON observed, that the seta ices of M. Sicard were of many years standing, and he had been highly esteemed. Mr. S. WORTLEX trusted that provision would be *tads for all her late Majesty's servants on the same scale as for the servants of Qum) Charlotte. Mr. BROUGHAM agreed in this suggestion. The course recommended by the member fer Yorkshire would be the most honourable one for the public. One of these intlisidula had been shout her Mnjeaty for 50 years. Mr. S. WORTLEY alluded to the case of Sir W. Cell 23 one claiming attention : in the progress of the bfil he should certainly propose a provision for the rest of her Majesty's establishment. Dr. LUSHINGTON said, he could not, with a due regard to politic economy, support other recommendatiens. Mr. C. W. WYNN said, this 'naiad be the first time thnt this house had taken upon itstlf to originate provisions and grants to the servants of the Rot al Family, without a distinct previous recommendation from the Croam. The resolution was agreed to, end a hill ordered eccordirgly. LOTTERY BILL.—Ou the report of the lottery kill being roe sented, Mr. BENNET' expressed himself ngsinst it. Mr. HUME also spoke against it. —lt :port agreed to. Mr. D. GILBERT presented the Report of the London Midge Wet er-works' 8.11 ; lie hop. d that the removal of the water-works was only preliminsry to the remcv al of the bridge. which was a diNonce to the metropolis, and au impetliturnt of the current of the river. Report agreed to, and Bill ordered to he prints d. BREACH OF PRIYILFGE. Mr. W. that as it had corn, to Lis knoniedge that an hon. menthol . , Mr. Abercroinhy, eoald Liz in (For set page 232.) -~ _... :