The National Register. — London, England, 1817-06-09 00:00:00

IMPERI.IL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. MOSDAY, JeNu 2. Amities rtveree Lill tea, rra i a thir.l time. :10 , 1 pas'cd. Ti►e Saute Bottles Bill Wilti read a third titue. tuft!ti Pret:s. Sostirne presentvil a peti;ion frotn'the parish isf Paw eg,,s against the Itetrupo.is P.iving Bill, in which there is a ist lf ise lug the u,. or iron pi arm. The ohicat of the pc• titioners is to impress upon the House that the use of iroo -pipes in juju. kiss to the public. The Noble Lind presented a second pistil ion tract Air. Sinittions a oil :um. tiler ;frittin, resitting in liar saids• .41 ish, against the Thvv also ohjented to iron piles. Both petitions were read, and °tarred to lie on the table. Alter the i3ills on the table had been forwarded, the House -adjourned. TUr.cDA V, aLNC 3. At half past three o'clock the Ce , :missionois ;the Lord Chancellor Lords -Hathor , t, Liverpool. shallesbury, and timlniondt4ey,t for coiffirnMut the choice of the Speaker o f the llasise of Cousituruts, liaviog taken their seat', Tim new Speaker ( Mr. C. M. Simon), attended by an ins atieni.e. %umber of numbers, appeared hi low the bar: when The LOR D Clestsciltton switLit not being convenient fur his Royal Highness the .Priore •Regent to attend this day, lie 'bas directed 114 and other 1.0141:; named in the commis.ion, •-s!luicit will be read. to ootify, that he Inc approu rd the ehowe of 1461 faiiiittil Commons, in haviuts elected the 'Licht flotiourable Charles Mannurs Stittau, to till the chair of that House. The commission was then read ; after which Mr. Sutton obedience to the commands of his Royal flightless, Majesty's most Snit-hint C4nenoits have proeet tied to the wiection of a Speaker, and their choice has fallen upon Inc. loity impressed with the many a n d arduous neressa vily attached to that 11;,411 office, it is impossible but that I should (eel my own inadequae* to the proper di.eharge of those dirties. It', however, it should be the pleasure of the Prince Regent to disapprove of the choice, 1 am convinced it will be a -souse.: of gratitude to his humble Commons, who will have ITO difficulty iu s. it ittii.g from itentingSt their 1110111- Deis some other person better itLalitietl. The Costacze.toa than said—Alr. Sutton, we have, in obedience to the romniaods of his Royal Highness the Prince 'Regent, to repeat, that he is so entirely satisfied with the choice, and of your sufficiency for discharging the high and arduous ditties of the station to which awn have been called, that he has caused the Commission mutter the Great Seal, which has hen rt ad, to br made, in o b edience to which, and . , I'v sirtur of its authority, we ikelare his Majesty's Royal allowance and coutitmatiou of the choice of his faithful viLtouttions. 111 r. Sorrow submit to his floral Highness's most graci ous commands, and desire to express the deep sense of grati lode which I entertain for this bigli mark 40 . 1 th condescension. If, in discharge of my ditties, I should fail in supporting the ;public rights, and in maintaining the privileges of the House of Commons, or insolentatily commit any errors, I Trust those errors may be imputed to me alone, and not to his Majesty's most dutiful and faithful Commons. The Speaker and tho rest of the Members then withdrew. MESSAGR FROM THE PRINCE REGENT. Lord SIDMOUTH brought down a message from the Prince 4Regent, which stated. that his Royal Highness had ordered to be laid before the House, papers containing information of practices, meetings, and combinations.earried on in different parts of thekingdom, t•.:oding to disturb the public peace and tranquillity, and to endanger the Constitution of these Icarian, and recommending to the House to take the same into its immediate consideration. The Message having been read. Lord SID:ROUTH said, painful as it most be to make the communication just read, it was imperiously called for, with 41 view to secure the •public pence, aud the tranquillity of the State. What steps are to be taken, would he for the House to determine. The•fiost step would be to address ince Regent, and then to examine the papers, referring the pa yers to a Committee of Secrecy, to be composed of the same limbers, with the exception of a Nohle , Dooke, alto desired not to be upon that Committee. With respect to the infor mation, he should suppose no objection would be made to Irefer the papers to the Cummitee. If they should be referred then would be the time to examine and determine upon what measures it would be necessary to adopt for the poor pose named in the message. this Noble Lord then moved the Address of Thanks to the Prince Regent, are. Earl GREY had no objection to a mere vote of thanks, but solid nut pledge him..a:ll'lo may ulterior object founded un the Message. The Address was thenralried. Lord SIDMOUTH was not aware that any precedent existed -on the journals for moving to refer the papers to a Committee on the same day on which the message was brought down. The House would nut be rootled upon to declare any opinion ; they were only required to male a decratation that the pa pers would be examined. He then moved that they be re ferred too Committee of Secree?. Earl Guts/ observed, that it' any immediate necessity ex isted fur such a proceedl.ng, which went to affect the rights and liberties of the people of England, then he should not °Nett to the motion.; but as the ems lay with tee Noble Se eretary, and he had not shewn any rent ground of alarm, he eboald object to refer' ing the papers sviolo..oit some distinct explanation. The necessity fur enquirius into the real state of theeountry was apfament, hot •with respect to thelufor !nation upon which Miuisters had proceeded, if' it should be found that .a limner Committee had come to a conclusion from the evidence of per+ons who were nut competent to judge, or a irk. d enough to state .what was not t r u e , lie felt a dreadful reponsibiiity wow(' rest upon them. 'The Earl of lavenroan oil:sersed, thus the more 'usual Course was, to bring dowo the Inem.ane without any previous notice. In the present cat. be .(Lord 1...) hart apprized the House, a week since, that a .of toLage w: :old he brooght down, and therefore there was no surpr;ge m, rue id olise . s„,,, ta „. tially, the House hail a longer notice than e.as neeessury, fur the business was fixed for Friday hi , t ; ai,(;„ erom some unex pected eirciintstaiisu s. had been delayed until this day, there fore the Noble-Ear. had no reason to complain of being taken by surprise. With respect to the trials ;amid to take plac e , Abut was no ground tor delay Ministers had not brought 'down the message with any usher object than the preserva .tion of the tranquillity of the country. Earl GROSVRIVon expressed his surprise, that such a mos goas•eirtoshi rc.reot down, wbcn the country wad in a aunt THE NATIONAL REGISTER. ul'tranquif.ity, •nd he einild not mcrrv•e to deport (coon rte re4Cot, when uo real ground of tievesAiy tor departing from it lii.d been AheVlll. Earl seeNCLO, conceived, the wiestion was not one of pre. t ctlent. Thy Mosso uuY4l to pmceed with delicaey and caution; as !vowels unktion II to the Constilotion, lllMlit 1 /, aieti proceedings be vested in the hands of 'Ministers. If a necessity really t tie would not object to the motion. 11 iUt respect to the former l rmenittte of Secrecy, their re noel, as tar as he could judge, dill lint . 01'14 the atloplion those measures which were solortnote oily resoled to; and for these reasors he should not be satisfictl with loose O rjuions or cluestiotuttile facts ; tOr they would lead Mitre antiphon of a incasorr •nhirli, daring the seeress of Parliament, was of a de:%cririon milith this Hone not to inlet :won the people of Eniztaiiii, and which might (lie did unt say A 006141) t,c intfictml on them. _ Tae Mat (ink of Ituetcmun ins übw•rvcd, the tivestion was not a new one. Thu Boues had nu fortner ore.wionek 4 prima At; ett,e made out by the Report of the twitinittee aluttl ett to. Load Horrayin expßssed his rccret at the impatience of the Noble Nlarquis, and very considerable surprise that hr should wish to anspeori the llahras Corpus Att. It was true I hat the Noble Secretary bad ei'VCII The flimsy ten days !M.' tier. that this day M ax to be one of ;dam : hut the dry simple question was one of pre redent. The Noble Lord hail talked lightly of precedent, ant he (Lord H.) did nut like that irre gular and Pindaric mode of treating precedents. With e speet to the prima facie evidence. of which the Noble Marquis talked, that was no ground for adopting the present propo sition for we might hare second prima facie Reports—(u botch.) 11 the result of the measure was to deprive the People of this , rometry of their liberty for one hour, it ought nut to be coactetl. _ The yeiesti6al .nas then mit fitr referring the papers to a Ceminittee, and tarried. Lord Sinmovnt obs-recd, that the difference between the present and former caws %%35 this—that former Commit t, es were appointed by harlot, now it wit, proposed to name the Cominiitee. He then pro;toseri on the Committee, the Lot Coancellor, the Lord Pie.idc tit, Lord Grenville. Lord Tationt, Lord St. fiernianet, Lord Redesdale, Lard Friz *Whim, end Lord Sidmoni h. MASEAS CORPUS Slv9CEMileT4 ACT. Lord HOLLAND ruse to bring forward his motion vespeet• ing the Correspondence which had passed between the Se. cretary of State and the Visiting Alagistrates of Berkshire, on the subject of the Circular Letter of the Noble Viscount: one of the opinions was strictly illegal. The Noble Lard went over the whole of the questions, and the answers given by the Noble Secretary: (lime was a harsh spirit which dictated these answers, he observed, as referable to many of the questions; the Act of the 31st of the King giving power to the visiting Magistrates to visit the prisons, no exception being made in the case of any prisoner. Now the fact was, that two Magistrates applied to visit the prison, and were refused permission, the orders of the Seen lacy of State to the contrary being shewn theni. 'this conduct, the Noble Loral contended, was an usurpation of the Bill of Nights, and certainly an infringement of the statute law of the land, and of the Constitution, and exercising an authority %%Inch be longed akme to the Legislature. lie concluded by moving for the production of the Correspondence referred to. Lord Stumm:Tß assured the House, that in the execution of an arduous mike he had always endeavoured to do his duty ; but if his conduct was liable to comment, he desired not to shrink front :Any responsibility. He had always un derstood tit:Ware gaols of the kingdom were subject to the exercise of the Royal Prerogative. With respect to the 31st of the King, if the Royal Prerogative was to be excepted, a special enactment ought to have been introduced for that purpose. In the time of Lords Holt and Raymund, the per mission for a wife to see her husband (committed fur high treason,) was denied. Similar re/itsals had been given in other ewes of state prisoners. If the House intended to throw blame upon him, they.coold agree to the motion. As fir as his own vote went, he certainly shook] object to Earl GRLY supported the motion, contending that it was harsh to deny prisoners the use of paper or books. The Earl of Livtareutit, opposed the motion, on the grounds stated by his Noble Friend. The Earl of ROSSLYNN supported the motion. The Lord CHANCELLOR contended, that the gaols were completely under the. prerogative the King. Earl SPENCER suggested the propriety of adjourning the debate, in consequence .of what had fallen from the Noble and Learned Lord ; for it was awes ror to say, that the pre rogative was to supersede an Act of Parliament. lie there fore moved to adjourn the debate. Lord HOLLAND replied. --The question ofadjouirnmrnt was then negatived, as was the original question, after which the House adjourned. THURSDAY, JUNE G. LORD COLCHESTER. The Earl of LtvEnpoot. moved the •Order of the Day for taking into consideration the Message of Ins Royal Highness the Prince RegrMt, respecting the elevation of the Rigl Hon. Charles Abbot to the Peerage, •under •the title of Lord Colchester. The Message was then read by the Clerk ;. after Which The Earl of LIVERPOOL rose and said, that in proposing an Address in answer to the Message of Ilia Royal Highness, he should not take op much of their .Lordships' time, by dwelling upon the merits of the individual who had hero raised to the honour of the Peerage, in consequence of Lis meritorious conduct in the Chair of the House of Como,ow„ His conduct was more immediaiely known to that House than it could be elsewhere. He should move an Address, thaek ing his Royal Highness the Prince argent for his communi cation, and promising their concurrence in any measures that ierght be nccessary.to•earry the object of it into.effect. The Address was then read and agreed to. The Earl oftatruEnciat.r. presented a pi tition from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Livery of London, against the renewal of the Habtas Corpus Suspension Act.—Adjouriwd. 178 FRIDAY, JtmE. 6. Lord Hetr.,►ttto presented a petition from the Lord ;•Mayor, Aldermen, and Connlloll Commit of London, against the continuance , of the Habeas Corpus Stispension Act, which was read Loy the clerk. His Lordship expressed u hope that that would not be the last petition presented on the subject, if Ministers manifested a disposition to persevere. The sense' of the room tv wa► decidedly against much a mo•.lsure. a n d h,. trusted -would produce its proper effeet.-0. timed to lie on the table. The l'oor'a Employment Bill, Was read a second time; the JUNE 9. !loose to rei , oive itself into n Committee neon the Bill on \loot/sly, nod the diselisbion of the prirtitipte reserved Lill the third itaLliAg.—Adjorrned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Juse 2. There was an enteemmunlv bill •ttU'Waver of Members foie four o'clock, dud ut tied hour, order Itavisig ho-cu oh. t.tincd, they proceeded 10 the AProiNTMVNT• 0.1. A NEW SPEAZEn. Lord CA411.1.11F.A6/1 stated, that he had communirated to the frslglla 1.11111 of their Inte Speakri, and he had it in continend flow his Royal Ilighnees, to request that the House wmild pi . ocecd to the appiiiiitnitut of a new SI/4 akel... Sir J. NICHOL Alen rose ; he said he 1,/111 aware of the arduous ellat doe' of duty that a Speaser !mil to perfoini and he Alt confident in the excellesier the selectiou he a cts 1111011 t 10 make, namely, Mr. 'AIA N• SLTTOIS, (hear.) He could most sincerely assure the lloOse that if lie line% amongst them all indi vidual more lit for the Omit, that Member should have his support; but hr ads 11/1t aware of ;limber that pos sessed iu •0 eminent a degree the varied onalitications nrres eary to clLlfitrteliVr a Speaker. It a cs Heal the Cll.l of A. Paillalnotst to 141 He any deseript ion of the 4111a111iell deNlra. ble iu thu Speakei ; in a sentence. they were coos' crated by and exemplified in their lute excellent Speaker, thier.) But it was 111111Cei•St,ify to paliegyrise the hulk admit who had joist retired, although they must lament the cause of that re! tie in. nt ; it only remained for them to hope, a Ineever might he selected, that such Nlemliei• %mild geide himself b y the ii u ta and example of his pit deeessor. The lios:eess of that House hail in recent times greatly increased in impuirtence, so tl so, as to resider it iIICIIIIII/1411 1/11 them to sr !eel for a Speaker one alter had received a professional education. lit mention ing Mr. M. Sutton,. be proposed one that poswessed such re uptisite in an eminent degree. 'that Right iioa. 61.1111e1P111/ lout been edricated for the bar, had practised. it a ith great promise of success, and be hail since tilled the otter of Judge Advocate General %Medic judgment and impartiality that peculiarly recommended him to occupy the chair. Fie teas sin 104111111111 A Of research, 11004(.8.1ng au i l ea 5 ,1 i 5 4 of the constitution of that House; and of firmness, decision, candour,. and urbanity of dente:molar. (Thar, hear.) Con ciliatory iii his disposition, lie also possesses! great quickness of mind. It was nutienessary to disguise that another Hon. Nlciiiher (Mr. C. W. W. Wynn) was spoken of as Speaker, and able as that gentleman undoubtedly was, the House would • do him the justice to recollect that he haul not institt.ted any comparisons between them. The House 110 donlit coutamed wetly individuals that were capable of performing the ardu ous duties of the chair, lie concluded with movine, that the llight'Hon. C. M. Sutton do taki , the chair at Speaker. Mr. J. P. LITTLIcrON tiecomlcil this motion, pas ing the highest tribute to the public and private %sort', of the Richt Hun. Gentleman who had her n proposed. Their late Speaker had established an example which it would be ditilettlt to low ; asst he haul. stabliAted a character for impartiality, how ever high party spirit might I an, that was unsullied eyeit by seepicion—and the thanks of that House had been latillitd in a incliner that gave them additional brilliancy. Mr. I)ivx exsoN thewrose to propose Mr. C. W. AV. Ws rat, as their Speaker, and in doing this he mistied to be under stood as not objecting, on personal grounds, to the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite ; he agreed to all the testimonies of approbation a hich had been paid to him ; but lie would ask., in which of those qualifications was the Hon. Gentleman .lie had the honour propose, in any respect deficient. hither! he world ask, a hether, from his length of service and close attendance in Parham nt, he was not better acquainted alit; the forms of the Hems+ than the Right Hon. Gentleman could be? His Hon. Friend, he contend( d; was must fit mul hest caienlated to preserve that dignity and &cousin ire Pauline inent which had marked the career of their late worthy Speaker. lle therefore conclit«l by filo% init. as an Amend - - ment, that Charles Williams Watkins Wynn, Esq. should be requested to take the chair as npeaker. Sir. M. W. Itinvest seconded this proposition, at he con sidered that the vakious qualifications of Mr. Wynn pointed hint out as the fittest person in the House for Speaker. To firmness, temper and ability,khe added independence of spirit. He was one that could break through the shackles of party, as he haul shown iii a recent instance (lie voted for the I habeas Corium Suspension Rill); and he thought they would in vain look for a person more enuniuently qualified for the Chair, ( Hera, bear.) . . . . „ . . Dilr. C. M. SUTTON said his pretensions to fill the- high office for which he had been proposed were not what he heartily wished they were. He wn conscious of his inferiority and of the difficulty I. would have to contend with who should follow their late Speaker; but he could not deny, that to (wimpy the Chair had been the first great object of his ambition, deeming it,-what it was, the highest 11011011 r a Com minter could enjoy. Should the selection of the House fall on him, what assiduity emild perfmm he would accomplish; but should it appoint a titter individual he wee not so blind to his own int . eriiirity as to prevent him front admitting that such selection was: the best that could In. mdde. (Bede, hear.) Mr. C. W. WI - NN felt grateful fur the kindness and fi lend ihip of those individuals oho bad proposed him to fill the office of Speaker; and whatever might be the result, be should always recollect this occasion with the greatest satisfaction. That of itself was more than an adequate reward for any services he might have rendered to the House; but shouid the appointment , fall, lee would with all possible zeal watch over and support their rights and pi ivileges. (Hear.) Sir C. BURMA. spoke warmly in favour,of Mr. Wt nu, and said, should the selection IA on him, lie would do justice to Moir choice. Sei jeant t 's:Low thought, to appoint Mr. Wynn would only he discharging a dad of gratitude. He 114(1 ever vac' it d himself ably aid zealously in sopi:oft of their privileges, and a inutetaitliful gnardian oftlieincuillil not be selected. Mr. %V ri.nEninner felt himself boom' to Ntipport the claims itrzeit on tirltall of Mr. NI ynti— he was folly informed of the dens, rights, and privileaes of the llou , e. Tin CC was then load Cries of Question." on whith stran gets were ordered to WithillaNN, when n di% kion took place. The numbers were--F .r Mr. Soil too 312—For Mr. Wynn 14:: —Majority favoor of Mr. Sintoo,l6o. sir J. Niro,. and Mr.l.llTl.E'll.Pi, the mover and seconder, nick lialitied Mr. M. Sititutt to the Chair amidst clicut Mr. Stilton ;mid that he It as so usct co.ne by the horioor conferred open' him that he conld not express his cratitiole in the nay which he rh sired, and which hey - nine him. Ho c (mid owtely sat, that he retained his most beartielt Omit, far dis!awaislied mark of Mt ir apnioio.t‘m coird assort thew of his aat%ioas %%kit to itsciatre- the ttot.t 5 I It e high (are, to which lieltad hewn ra:sed by ILeit hr s , ‘o