The National Register. — London, England, 1816-04-15 00:00:00

this sulsject had already been beto..e the Huusr ; and rlie.ded explanations had been inade on the mantel. Ile had hecore •teed, that part of this rant lid dl been 2111 , hi'd to the remnc iut the s!atotes and pieta. es from France; tint the monument of Cardinal Vorl., and tzi other purposes of the army. Mr. llot - GL ILS them, 1110Vell far an account of all snap) of inintry become d tie or received front F: ;nee; how applied, ot intended to he apiiii, d , since the l-ita tifJittie,llAs, with the date, and amount of sums actually revel% ed, and how applied. 0 I Ire INCE EsTlal .~•rf:v. The Home then went into n Committee of Supply, and the' Ordnance Estimates were referred to the Committee. Mr. R . W.tn n then proposed the Ordnance Estimates for the service of the year. 'lll4. Hot,. Get:UE.ll4n er tered into n com parative view of the Peace Establishments of former periods, as contrasted with the one now proposed. The Peace Establish ment of 1753, he observed. was 1,119,0%01. which included an improvided debt of tioo,oool, There was now no debt. except about 51,0001. Ile then proems: eel to slate the. Ordinary and Zstraordinary item.. In the Ordinary there was a redaction) of 447,0031. which eltit•ily t ose from the redaction of the military Ihrce.—The re was like w:se a reduction in the Civil Div:Omen I, ill the 'War Salaries having la en reduced with the exeeption of ionic few saservipg trikr..--1. iu Woolwich-yard similar atten tion bad been .rtitl to the settle of reduction in reel to it • 1 -•••••• - r artificers, clerks. box. lint the loos( important part of tse diminution of ex pence arose is. tha military Irraneit. The• Hon. Gentletnan here passed an eitlovinnt oil the !Sliatter General of the Ordnance, on the high state flue at tillery service had ar rived under his direction, in order to be enabled to bring into tire field a force of that description commensurate with the amount which the enemy hail constantly poured in, and which had, i n f a ct, c hanged th e .yeteiti artiltery:throlightilit Europe. In this Imaitelo a reihmtion Icul been made in the proportion of one-eleveloth part to the army of the line, the numbers of Om army being 111.01)0, the artillery not more than 10" 1 0. In this amount, however, he did not include sappers and millers. The as hole r«lnetion last se err as as 11,3/0, since as Inch a further re daction was made of Aim, making a total of a boo 15,900, which, added to the an hsequent .I:Auction, would make the total a i,tit;9. 'Within the last six week., three troops of horse artillery were reduced, as well as et enmiti et able portions of toe drivers corps. In fact, this latter part of the. Artillery Establishment was au anomaly—the Captains had no command ill tile field equal to their rank; the youngest I ,iettlentint of the Artillery would rout main! over a Captain of Drivers. It was proposed to allow the Driver Officers to retire uts fall pay, the troops being reduced from twel ves to rive. There as err other reilnetions in this branch of the Ordinary FAimates.stich as the Rid ii Be. whi c h would be a saving of 37,0901. The Storekeepers' denartnicut would be reduced from 330 persons to IT. 'rite Mvdical De partment would be r•slaccil from 102 to tit.- -The Cadets would ha reduced by 12; hat it was not intended to put down the Ca dat With respect In the Extraordinaiies, there there would be a saying of I ;,instil. more titan the former year in point of Stores.- The Mom. Gentleman stateaLthirt during the host Year great exertions had been made to obtain a proper and a only supply of Stores, at an expenee of 1,091.0001. This ex pence would be wholly saved, as every stinvhimse was overflow ing. There would also) he a saving ill an item which was an oh. ject of great . jettlotisy, he incant the works in Groat Britain, Ireland, and the adjoining islands; the Military New Winks would be 33,0031—the repairs 30,0001.; the Civil Buildings would be 29,0001.--:the repairs 159,0001. The total diminution in the expence of the works at Chatham, Portsmouth, Plymouth, Gosport, .c. would amount to 100,0001. 'lite Brigade would experience a reduction in pieces of fr six to four in Great Eritaint. The Barrack Stations would be reduced, as WOlllll also the Staff Desalt tomtit. The Hon. Gent 11.111 all hen. noticed the appoimment of Generals l‘lann and Macleod—the latter, Adintant-Gcncral of Artillery-the former. Inspector-General of Fortifications. vi Ito took a salary 1,3001. a-y ear, instead of 2,0301. General Marleod's would be 1,0301. The expellee in the rerinction of the small arms vs ie!'ol i.e about I 00.0aJl. An errangement, lie observed, lead heels made with the tommfacto r.es for a supply lot three years, it being agreed that 4 :Leh party should give the miler six mouth's notice of closing the contract. Be should have to ask for 100,0001. for this supply, and next • year 30,0901. 'lke lion. Gentleman then stated his readiness to give every and concluded with miring the grant of a sum of 089,2'201. is. 10(1. for the Office of Ordnance Land Service for Great Brit:lir. Mr. CALCa 4FT it marked at considerable length on the dif ferent items of the estimates, awl did not think a stifficieot re duction had taken place. Mr. R. WA It I/ replied to Mr. Caleraft. The first Resolution wax then agreed to, u were the follow ing su ms, viz. £ 67,951 Ordnance F.xpenccs amide gootL 103,657 Ordnance of Ireland. 9q,884 Ordnance Expences of IrAtind not made good by Parlia ment. 1 514. en Pensions to Officers of flrelnimce. ton,ooo Ex ) x:nre ni reducing the Onkrice-Office. 31,376 Retired Pliczt•s of cut Ordnance in treiond. Y,993 Super:unmated Persons in tile Irish Ordnr.cce Office $1,474 Allowanoex pt Supermarauted OtEcers of the Ordnance Office of Great Brinan. Or,tnamee S-evica in France', 45.4.536 Oat,•,ance of army in Great Britain. I:llr.N'atssirt.tar ht a Committee moved for leave to bring in *Bill to continue the Batik Restriction Act for two years, Agreed to.—Adjourneel at nue o'clock. Tursiravo;`..Pno. 9. Petitions from 13 parishes in Devonshire, prayinrt a Commu tation of tythes ant limn the tanners in various districts, pray ing a repeat 14' the leather-tax were 'nese:lied. '4e. Seriennt Onslow brought in a 14ili to amend the Acts of William and Mary, and Anne, for the relief of Creditors against trim thilent Devis:Na; which was read a first time, and ordered for a second reailinu on the Y.Lith inst. The Rank Restriction, the Malt Duty Allowance, and the Scotch Commis-imetrs of Excise Indemnity hills, were brought in, and read a first time. mulcur..s ctikRLOTTE'S ESTABLISHMF.ST. On the question of going into a Cominittoe on the Princess raarlotte of Wales's Establishment Mr. iiitocia a. conceived that some eistiinnte of tile expenees of The NON was necessary. It world be recollected, that some years since a slim was set apart for the Latatilishoient of other branches of the royal Family, which within the first rear was not loand sufficieo, and the persona thus provided for gut into debt. He wished, therefore, to glum' against such a recurrence, by providing a suns sufficient for the maintenance of her Royal Highness.. Mr. 1.1 , 411%63 - CIN stated the circumstances connected with the Ca it I.ist and Consolidated Fund. 'there was a:grant of 6,5011, to the Princess Charlotte. The other suns was repaid 14 lies Royal Highness, viz. 23,5001. Sir R. HrisoN thought the sum proposed was quite suffici ent. He hoped her itu:. at Highness would rot require any for they provision. The Royal Family bad beau liberally provided THE NATIONAT, RFATSTER. t . " - ; 4 . ,, t 1 for (Lie he wool(' pot 4ive a sate for the paymest of the (Seta's of any Ilioh•ter or l'iloce eire or dead. Eu lIIP the onsmity was to he, and was answen:it 69.0001. The Hon. th•nr/einan wished to know is what tufty the annuity mar to be paid. At this time there uus a sum of 59,090:. paid not of the Civil I.ist tbr her Royal lintlntess. Now it wit: a que.tisiveltvhether there AN as to he misled by a side wind to tile Civil T.. 1 -4 mi addition of 311.0001. a year, and at the now time rive the Royal Persons 60,0011. ILn cweipLimed of this mode of diseliareing ar rears by burdening the Civil List. lie wished ant to throw any impediment In the way of the •ettlement on any ()erasion wt aa.pi , :ions to the imintry. It now clearly appeared, that this was. no.addition.o4 - .39,00‘.1. . Mr. Ltstitatismin said, she 13,0001 would cease when this establishment was voted ; 110 that, in fart, Ihme would be 110 more claims on tin! (:nil LisLiu respeet to her Itoyal!mess. Mr. BR MGR eunt..nded, lhat all Parliament intruded to grant was rio,nonl. fur the Establishment of the Prioress Char lotte and Prince Leopold. Mr. Lt sittst.Tosi observed, that the present establisfusit might be voted —the :.:1,0)901. might be likeits.ed on a ("Wore dov, when the Civil List Aceounts were before the /loose.- (Hoar, /vim) Mr. V.sseorr tar e•plaine.l, that the eharze on the Civil List was 30,0001. which undoubtedly would affect it to that amount. This chow!. ;‘ , ,ok. no part of the F,,thunte•, thouth paid nut of the Civil List. There would be a saving of 70001. a tar on the charge. Mr. nun xr.v observed, that it had been decided, In addi tion la the 6,1001. to charge the Lord Steward's department 11,0001. a year, and the other &pat talent 10.0na1. The great objection to this vote was the manner of doing it. When it onee aot on the Consolidated Fund, there was no such thing as getting it off. It was n so in good old times. Thieve was no security, by agreeing to the 'west at vote, for the Civil List being relieved * irate the charge in future. When so large a sum as 60,0001. was :pied for, he thnught her iio l Highness was to .be placed in a state bet:nod:a; hor rank and dignity; but here Yhe was only to have a private establislimant, like a private gentlewoman ; in that ease, 60,0001. was too mach ; it was a sham-fel waste of the public money. Site was to live in a house where it was impossible to spend it—(Bear, hrar)--- ~ .tlter in town or io Ca • house belonging to a Tiarouta in the country. Was i. .:itended that her Royal I(igisuess was to 'hold Drawing-rooms after her marriatv? Would the Noble Lord answer that qua-Jima ?—a lord Cast areaph here said, I will giv e no answer that question")—Well, then, Witte No ble Lord will not answer my question, I will not give him the money.—t .1 laugh.) Lord CA STILE It EAGIT observed, that the Right Hon. Cent. rut rinestitms and answer( al :hem himself. This was a ',era mtts ing drains:tic mode, but he begged leave not to net a part in such a comedy. In respect to the Establishment, he would state that it was to be 60,01101. annuity, and the additional 611,0091. for outfit, anal as to the residence, if Parliament wished to pro vide any thing on that ;;round, her !loyal Highness wished it might be done for a country residence, rather than for a town residence. Mr. 'Nausea' denied that he was acting any other part, than for the benefit Of the country anal in.unison with its feelings.— ( Hear, hear. )—The question was a prope , one, and acquired au answer; he might represent his conduct in any other quar ter arhe chaise ; but he wrath) say, whi:e there were WI many 'Wares, he would not su.r am; money fur a,country residence. Ha wished to know, as their Re-. .1 llighnesses preferred a emantry residence in private, why Critnltourn Lodge would not do. Notwithstanding all tht.increased expences, we had 110 thew for our money. Mr. Buouattast maintained, that if her Royal Highness was to live in privacy, then late sum now demanded was by far too much. He must again repeat his satistitetion that a matrimo nial engagemeut had taken place ; but lie was bound nail to vote the (mamma: money without seeing that it was properly voted. As to the Noble Lord's ignorance it' her Royal Highness's in tentions, it was evident that if she held a Court (and hold a Court she oughtt, it could not be held at Camelford House. With re spect to this private! Establishment, it bad cost the conatry 37,0901. a-year; to add 23,9001. and torn it into a Royal Esta blishment,was a gross misealenlation—twkle an,oool. would not do. lie should, therefore, move (in order to obtain better infer mation; that the Chairman should report pragress and ask leave to sit again. Mr. METnera wished to know front Ministers, when the a 0,0331. was paid annually, whether the charge nit the Civ il List was to be cleared o)f. xt the same time he wished it to be put to the good sense of their Hoye, nightie-sea to bring their Es tablishment within the stun now demanded. lord CACTIERF vitt said, that he had distinctly stated that this sum was the only one the illustrious partite, would have for their own maintenance. Mr. C. NV VNNE contended, that this House were lomnd to enquire into the expenditure of the sum now proposed to be voted ; nor had it been clearly stated how the grant was to be taken. He had heard that the ladies in attendance upon her Royal Highness had not been paid : but he mild not believe such a report, after the Noble I,ord bad slated the contrary. Mr. V A N‘l'l TAN - a' entered into an caplanatinn of the disburse ments of the Civil List. The only saving was 6,5001 leaving a deficiency of I ia,oool. unprovided fur. The question for repartieg progress was put and negatived without a division ; and the blank was filled up with tire worth, " Sixty . Thuusand."—The report sass then received. sT %Tr. OF ACIUCULTUOr. Mr. W FsretcN, slue rtiug to the thitinc.s of the House, pro, posed, on so important a subject as the ilistrosses of the Agri.; cultiiral Interest, that the Committee should be put of. He should throw himself upon the House to say, w 'tether he should now proceed, or postpone the enquiry to another day, or suffer the Committee now to expire entirely. Lord C sit:mil:tett the propriety of adjiatruing the Committee till after the holidays. Mr. J. P. 611 ANT, Sir J. N eas rob T, and Mr. IlmAau approved of this suggestion. Mr. GOlt VON wished that the flutist. should immediately go into the subject ; he wished to ask the Chancellor of the quer, whether it was hat:wird to extend the time allowed for pay fug the half-year's Income-tax due on the of this month beyond Juae next ; mid w Nether any allow mice in the landlord's and tenaat's tax was to be made. %slime 'Auctions iaal taken place in rents for the last six months ? Mr. VA in reply, hoped, at an carty thy. to bring in a Bill, containing regulations ua t his subject ;at present, lie could not accurately state what these regulations would lie, hat the allowithee oflime would tonna part ; with respect to the other brancliks of the Geotleman's question, the Hon. Gentle ' mats was aware that an order had been issued fur making al ; Instance to landlords and tenants, in eases whtre the rent had been rednewl for the period of twelve months ; wlit.ther the t I measure wovil be extsndri to eases of reduction of six months standing, he could act say. After sonic other remarks the House went into a Committee. A PUTT. IT. nave:tram enteredtat eansitiernlilc length iota it review. of the blltigeTt of the emotes of tha newt. Cpriee iipontigrienharal produre;und the recent depression t.( value and eal!seciticilt trearel the..agi leulturist ; and obit" ved, that the first great and rr ate r hil cause of the live in pitac was the resi•tietion or cools, paymentahy the flank ef Esigland, In- inereasq ofeattntry Daggs, and the unrestrieted nettle of paper. He did ant mean to say that this ayaleal UM' in the origin evil ;on the contrary, itNe ideting the stoppage of the 1101011411 hank, had the issue of country paper loam snore and hod its callings in been also more gradual. it would in Yeti have Levu an advantage, as it encouraged mid gave opportniiity for the rultivation of wade land; but the rapid calLng in of this pair-er hal (Tito:ail brat one great cause of the existing distresses of the aerieta 4 bitist. Angther maw of the ill4Cresimi of prive Was the woo, whielr a though it dirt nut bring is more namthas-brought in tirnatiirlably a system of greater conneuption ; ant! the purchases made by- Governint ut in the market, bail a dlreet tendency to raise the value of the commodity of which they were the-prisch:;MlN; and the stimulus littic giveu to the grow: rs of corn had enecuraged nodose' es, which had taken place within the last ten yeari to the anionot of two titiVions of acri s ; and had a bar eucouragetf the tinnier to embark r.:wr capital, and to raise a still greater I prautity of corn than at any Canter period, on the lambi pet•- sinn is in a fig' i +WIN These eireuntstintees, ac6trdiug to tl,c calculations of peiaons %rho hcrl tonna their attention to this subject, had given an increase of eix millions of itnarters df W heat annually, uvhi.c the population, ill tie *awe period, had insreased only two miliiovs. !ma :Mowing a (planer ef CAA n for the consumption of each peram, tht re wonld Lea inteplns of four millions of quarters. rush tea.: the situation of thiuga rap to 1810; alien followed the chain of circuit). tancea ainch,had tended pecoliarly to depress the Niece. Tin. two west years,. II and la, were years of extraordinary produce; these }eats were thllowed in 1813 and 1811 by a change from war to peace. which had a moat evident effect upon the price-of grain. To these farts he would add . a mber, viz. that as Government g - lag into the market as purchasers had tended to enhance tne prices, so it might to be recollected, that Government %vie.. drawing itself front the market 11211 the contrary t Amt. Add to these the distresses of the manufietarers• and the °peaky.; of the ports of this country lit the Contraion, and the principal asons of the retie:tiet of prices would be apparent. One great cause of these evils was the immune anumnt of the ex penditure of the masonry from c lint it was 2:t ago. front I.s to 75 millions. Indeed, one year, includiag loans, the ea penditure was net less thou Iv; millinuy, No effectual reme dies could be applied to these evils, imicsa there was a reduc tion ill the writhe taxation. The taxes on leather, salt, mow, and candles, prodoeing only about two millions a-year, bore very heavy on the fanner; fur they were taxes, which briug played on the twee...mien of life. went directly to taise the price of labour. Even sloaahl the Malt Tax be taken off, still, while the others were suffered to remain, it would he ossible to ,turn to the former prices of corn with any prospect of 'avow. tage to the farmer, Ile instanced the extreme unfairness of rating manufacturers only as the occupiers of large hotises to the poor rates, While the fainter was rated as to the absolute amount otitis property t the former being themselves the great cause of the increase of the number of poor. He trusted, how ever, that the former Was gradually undergoing a change from high to moderate prices—or at least he hoped the Legislature would end( avour to make it so. Lord CASTI.ER LAG II could not agree in opinion v.ith the last speaker, that the evils complained of resulted pi incipnlly from the restriction of rash payments by the Rank. That measure had given the country a command of specie, and mainly tended to bring us out of the war with glory and advantage. That it might have encouraged improvident speculation, he was net prepared to deny ; but it was one of the greatest monuments that could have been erected to the public credit of the country, which had not unly borne this measure long, but had increase 4 under it. He acs glad to hear the Hon. Gentleman t Mr. Brougham) say that, ►t his opinion. the agricultural distress would be but temporary. Butt it could not be concealed that they had been increasing, ever since ISI4, when the ports of the Continent were opened to the British Merchant for the im portation of fbreign Corn into this country, at a rate so lon as menaced the very existence of the Faitish Farmer. Now that we had a protecting price to defend our own Corn from being obliged to compete with that of other cotton ies, he trusted the prices would rise, so as to give the farmer sufficient remanent tkon for his.laboar and expences. He did nut state these things to induce th,2 Commit tee to reject the adoption of any measann•s which might stili farther tend to the relief of the farmer. —But he wished the Committee to look at these ci remnstances with attention,- and consider also, that as Wheat I n tl already risen in price in Scotland, whether it was likely to be lone 5Gs. in F.s. land. He hoped Parliament woold not think proper to call on the Bank for rash payments until commerce Outsold have brought into the country a quantity of the pr echoic metals sufficient to aid the savings in clue Bank cotters. He also trusted the !louse would not attempt to trench on the Sinking Fowl, at a time when, the House having rejected the lncome•Tas, tiovernmeut must be reduced to the necessity of resorting to new loans to a small estent. There was already a very large trade bet•.ccen this country and South .1 mei ira. Mr. WEATLAN contended, that there was nothing SO danger ous, as providing for a fluctuating price of Cam. The ware housing system could have that operation, by permitting the warehousing duty free. The object which he had in view was, employing capital in the purchase of British Corn for distribu tion throughout the empire. Butt if the sy stem of win encasing Foreign Corn was adopted, it would Kay e the effect of discou raging the Agriculture greatly in this country. The Chairman then reported progress ; and it was ordered that the I tome do resolve itself into a Committee oa the state of .‘grieulture, on Monday :9th inst.—Adjourned at past ONE. WEDNESDAY, APRIL 10. Petitions were presented from Nett - castle-ander-Line, Wel. sham, Halifax, anti Denbigh ' against the Leather-tux. One from NVeyniontli, against the insolvent Debtors' Act; and iti•cs one rwairist the Weyntooth Harbour Bill. One from Marl borough, praying relief from the Agrirultnral Interest, and a lievb ion of the '1) the System. One from the Gardeners la the neighbourhood of isteworth, against an attempt on the part of the Rretor to raise their I)tlies ; and several himilar ones from other places, which were laid on the tattle. . . Sir S. flo n nlly presented Petitions from certain Debtors con futed in the Fleet Prison, the Gaols of Ditrham, Exeter and Bristol, praying that the Bill fur repealing the present Insol vent Deblois' Act 'Hilda not 11'4,4 into a law. Mr. Tierney, in the 4bsence of Lord Altherpe. postponed the motion on the subject of the Leather Tax till the 3tl of May. On the molten of Mr. W, Smith, an account of the Fees and Profits upon Extents issued from the Exchequer, was ordered to he laid bcfore the House. CIVIL LIST ACCOUNTS. Mr. TIER sEV said, he had now to call the attention of the House to a 111011011 Of his, for the prothn.tion of certain estimates i c h t the to the c.p.tature of the Civil List iu the lord Chant.