The National Register. — London, England, 1822-07-28 00:00:00

,-ir- hon. and learned member added, that in his opinion, the trans actions established a prima jinie mute, which called for the serious attention of the House. Motion agreed 10. Lvw AtArru nudis t SCUTI.AND.—Mr. HUME presented a penning folio an iudividutd, ewuplaiiiiog of the conduct of the Loral Advocate and of the Lurd President Hope. 'fhe bon. member went into one details of the Lord Presideut, and oomplained of that Judge still retaining a command in a volun teer corps. Such command had induced that Judge to bold language which was utibecutuing of au individual holding such (Ace. The LORD ADVOCATE said, that the lion. member had kept hack such petition fur three months ; that the individual bad been punished ; and that his 'mauler had proceeded from the unenialions opinion of the Judges. .Ir. PEEL ohsn - ved, that the corps of which the Lend Pre shield bad been colonel no longer existed : it had been dis banded ; not in consequence of any conduct traced to the Lord President, but because it was no longer wanted. Mr. HUME made some observations, alter which the peti tion was read. It was from au individual named flay, of Leith, betting forth that he bad married where a minor of the family had become entitled to property ; that the I: ly bad in vain applied for justice for 311 y tars ; 110 that the perseverance of the petitioner had subjected him to the prosecuti on of the Lord President Hope. Sc. The Petitioner further urged, that by a corrupt administration of the laws, be had lost his properly ; and he therefore prayed the House to alfural him redress, to call for the papers illustrative of the case.—Petitiou ordered to lie on the table. SPA NISI! I'l It VIES.—Mr. CANNING presented a peti tion fount meiCll4lllB Of Liverpool, complaining of the system of ;Macy cavilled on in the West Indies, Oo:c. tinder the sipani4ii colours. They had appded fur protection in vain. The petitioners added, that the Ammicatis had interfered with such piracies, and that they hail lieopiently 1.11/IVeiCli the Haiti:di flag. lie mentioned instances of itel and scv me pinveednigs of the pirates, where they had coolly nod deliticiately committed amide's under the most Moro ohle cilcnmstanees, after having got on bawd the British vesae lA. Such wits the character of the pro ceedings. Ile ems sure, that if the mother ministry had lost the will or the power to interfere, this eutatitty must take into its own hands the protection of its awn coin. 'tierce. At present tour uteri:tient+ were indebted to the courtesy of the Americans for any protection they might have expedience./ against the pirates swotting into the West Indies, chiefly Irmo Spanish America. This county, lie felt persuaded, at ultimately interfere.—(Bear, hear.) Petitien rd ad. Sro G. COCKBURN observed, that when the colonies eviured the dispobition to throw Mi . the allegiance of the souther country, these vessels Legato their dept ethilootis ; and the English forces had authority to interfere wherever they had fair 111.kelo of ahslticiun; *peaking generally, very setiour outrages had taken place; but that was riot eke case with e.eira. (Heat.) Teel e *tie vessels lying et Cuba, the parties lielongtoug to which watched trout their height' the vessels that passed by; it they were merchantmen, not men of war, then they sallied forth to pursue and seize such vessel). The prizes wet e earl ied Imo Cola. there was ho proceeding against Ili e place, for there was 'awhile; but Mats to destroy. Our own ships kid convoy, but we eutild not give convoy to foreign ships. He menttotied au instarce (Capt. Itsishaties case) where a vessel had tress taken louder convoy, it beii.j supposed to be a Spanish, hut it proved la be a l'ot m ein se vessel f' and in consequence of legal proceedings a verdict of 3 0•' 031. had passed against such captain. Mr. CANNING explained. Lord LONDONDERRY said, the first time that the Nowt ionicoot heard of such pteCeedillgA was ill March last, from despatches and Letitia tot warded to his Lordship's other. 'I lie goveamtseia immediately called the attention of the Spanish Clout t to suet' outrages, setting forth, that it would he to the nattiest of troth rummies, to ptet all end to such puler eilioogs, and adding, that if the Spanish Court did 1141 i lest it pi litlent to ham fere, the Englialo Govern -111-11) 110151 take halo its 0411 I,anJs , the ;detection of its own co iiiiii erce. Towle had hero a good deal of comes. pontletice 011 the stobjeet, an ilia.. with the an: noris ie. in the Hataiiimlis and uegociations were slid proceeding.— His Itisdalaip also adverted to a pi °verdant; (hut had ire ell adopted by this cunittrys His lordship concluded with remarking (hut the English trovernmem lead left nothing undone that was calculated to promote the security tot our t•ummcta. Pe Moo ordered to be whited. IsCituE IT prosented a petition from Mr. 11. Hoist against the prison laws.—.Ordereot to be printed. Itlr. HUME postponed till Thursday the proposition of his tesolution regarding the character of the sink iseg fund. Atter sonic COlibCtbillitill me the merits tot the Canada Trade 811, m the comae of which Sir F. Burdett compli me Hied iounietera ler having tie ought it forward, and charged the opposition with having paralleled 41) ago just it, tile Bill was withdrawal till next sessium Mr. LEN NARD brought thins - aid the motion of which he had formeoly given notice, ter the prothiclionuf copies of ally C4.41C4/1/1111CliCe wluclt laud taken place between the government and the agent of the indepentievat /states of with America , or between the Euglisli anobassadurot and that individual Lord LONDONDERRY opposed the motion, on the grounds teat tiegueiations uetestsli pr eittiss4. Tile house then divided—tot tile motion, lb—Agaiust it, 32—Majoriss, 34. Nll.ll}2FOlteE postponed his motion 011 the slave trade to the 3d of August. The repos tot use supply lA.lb then brought up, and after Amur con•rrsauuu seas agreed to. The other us desk MLie disposed of and the house adjourned._ WLDNI:..SDAY, JULY 21. A new writ was ordered to be issued for Stockbridge, in the rooin of J. F. I:arrou, Lag. who bed accepted the Ciiiitirn Ilunereds. Mr. lIUME moved, that the Civil List returns regarding irt laud be printed.—Ordered. 'l lie CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in a Commit tee of Ways and Means, moved, that thy imftver ha granted to issue 16,400,0001. iu t:•chequrr Dills.—Agreed tu. Report 10-muhow. The .. thee eonbideration of the report of the Stamp Duties' Bill %Ks iimitioined till to tuOrruw. . . . Ilia Spit k:%portatiou Bill (Scotland) went through a com • ini ttee. --- it cm), t to-moo row. The Gretuland Fisheries Bill was ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. The Isle Ur 311111 l'oslnge Bill went through n rominattce.— Briu•rt to-morrow. Cuiliumicial Crcdu Ilia weal l'urou6l. 4....uh.a.ittec. —Re tuit ' • THE NATIONAL REGISTER The King's Bench Bill was read a third time, and passed. Mi. COURTIAAY presented the rtport or the Gas Wash ings' Bill. Further consideration of the report po,tponed tillkuorrow. . . . Mr. S. KCL prkbellt d a 1,,tio(“1 f. I,ll.o.(tAllii of Surrey and 311dttleacx, prarinA the llottan to take into consider.ation the diatressea of 11cl:intl. _ _ Mr. 11. GURN FA said, that the Pour Lows ought to be ea tentird to Ireland. Mr. S. RICE trusted that there would be no such extension of the Poor Laws. Petition ordtred to be printed. LICINsING SYSTEM.. -OH the ite.dion that the Lords' Amendments to the Licensing Bill ht. agreed to, Mr.(:. BENNET eapreased hi, regret at the anirridments of their lordships; then made the bill worse than what it was be fore.— Aniefiditients agreed to. The punislimeut by Bard Labour Bill was read a third time, and passed. The report of the Ty the Leasing Bill was presented and agreed to. Mr. HUME moved for accounts of loan contracted since 1793, and various other accounts. Also ~f expired annuities, or those that might have fallen in since 1793, \c.—Ordered. Mr. 111:3IE prearuted a petition from .Ir. Bradfield, of Par liament-street, c al-mercliant, complaining of the prese n t slate of the coal inett"ere; of the negligence of the present principal coal meters; and praying for a revision of the laws on the sub ject, wider which tin; public now so seierely suffered. 111. petitioner had preferted changes against some persons, and, as he represented, lhty bad been proved to the satisfaction of the Treasury. The bon. member said lie should hereafter more for returns of the principal coal meters. Mr. LUSIIINGI'ON thought if there were any ground for complaint, they should have heard as uwcl, from the coal mer chants. HUME replied, that one or the principal coal meters b.td been absent in Ireland for a year, as a cornmiss'ouer of in quiry into thy state of the resruuo ; now what clwel. ttou!d be for the public t—Petition ordcred to be printed. Pt uot: PILLab. SCOn. N I).—Lcad A. HAMILTON lament ml his absence yesterday, when the Lord Atßocate brought forward his motion. He now wished to know whether tl,,re had been any dismissal of Mr. Ayton, the sl erili . substitute of Lanarkshire, or whether any hint had been gi%eu that w,,uld secure 11114 retirement. Mr. PEEL, said, he had not felt himself called upon to re commend the dismissal of such individual. The house went iuto a committee on the affairs of the late Queen. Mr. LUSIIINGTON moved a grant of 6217 f. to make up the nun of 12,0301. that would have been due to the lute Queen Caroline. Mr. HC ME expressed his astonishment at the breach of faith of which the ministers had been guilts. They held out, if their case were proved, that her Majesty should then have the regular outfit, &c.; that juatice bad not been done. The dents of the late Queen were 31,091 E.; the assets were only 26,00u1. why did not the government make up sueli deficiency ? 11 was expected that her Majesty was to bare a carriage, &c. 1 lie CILANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that her Majesty had a liberal allowance, and that the whole quarter was now proposed to he made out. Mr. Aldcrmau WOOD said that her Majesty's debts, when she died, artiounted to only -I, PAIL ; that they were occasioned by extra demands, which a letter of very hilt authority de clared should he paid ; and that had she lived over the quarter, all the debts would hose been paid. Mr. 'l'. W ILSON observed, that if the debts were so small in 'turnout, he thought the Parliament would nut act uuwisely in defraying them. (Hear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECCER understood that all just demands were to be pair!. 111r.IILME observed that he would produce Lard Liverpool's letters, stating that such expeoces were to be inenrren, the house, the carriage, and the like; and he would put it to the house and the country, whether any one could have expected such expencer were to lie Suet by the Queen's salary. Alderman WOOD risked, if :melt were not the intention, why paeans were sent to sacs min whether the carriai„es, &c. were worth what were to he charged fur tti,or (Hear.) Resolution agreed to. Mr. GOULBURN moved a grant of 33,001. to carry on the Works at Deuleery, now called George I'.'s Iliu Agreed to. Mr. ARBUTHNOT moved 7,2031. for commissioners of courts of justice; and 20,0001. for African forts. Agreed to. hard PALMERSTON brought forward the proposed grata regarding the Opthalmie Hospital, moving that 1,0001 he granted to Sir W. Adam for four years' attendance to the hospital. Mr. G. BENS Ef come:Wed that the expenditure for this optbalmic eatablialtutent had been must improvident ; and that the optlialmia was vulgarly called Egyptian. Sir W. Adam, after trying his own plan without effect, was obliged to resort to the old system of management—the mild, humane, and ra tional system of Dr. Vetch, and the practice or lwtJ7. Yet to that excellent individual they could only get one word of com pliment into the report by mere force. A:I the medical autho rities who bad exerted themselves, and who might he supposed to have resisted, were unsttairected. He WAS really to admit that Sir W. Adam woo entitled to remutteratiou for attendance. To that he should have no objection. He thought him entitled to 2,0091. instead of 4,0001. lle concluded with moving to substitute 2,0001. ins ead of 4,000. . . The amendment wits negatived without • division. Report to-niorro%. he house then went into a committee respecting the printing of ancient hiatnri.•a. The CHANCELIAR of the EXCHEQUER brought for ward the proposition fur an address to his Majesty. praying 'lilt he would be graciously pleased to order Ilul the ancient records of the kingdom he printed, and that t h e house would make good the expence attending the same. Alter some conversation the address was speed to. The house then went into a committee on the Superannuation Act Amendment Bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated the nature of the bill tonic committee. li,. object wa. to deduct from the salaries of certain individuate bolding public offices 4 per restage on their salaries, by which a fund wan to he formed to provide to a certain extent I.r their superannuation, after a certain period of services, or other ciscumstaneeti obliging them them to retire. Ttie committee proceeded to discuss the several elsor.es. On that which provided that salui ie. from :Al. to IOU!. a year should pay 2 per cent. CALCRA Ft' objected to bringing the scale below lOUI. The CHANCELLOR of the EXU11t...411:14 said, he r..:a ready to adopt this objection of the lion. geol. he had bled 501. to avoid any objection which alight arise in th., committee. He wuu.d now propose, that the scale should commence at Irons I Md. to 4401. to pay 4 per cent.; shore 2UJI• to PAY 1.1. l iie OCAS.' thus aillended lilt: buyouts' oilier tolilLY*C6 oi tun. lull w ,re, wttr untie cobere . 24,6 sation agreed to, and the bill ordered to be reported lo.morro uther °Mos *ere disiro..od of, nod the house adjourned. Tlltl.tslA Y. 'LEV 24 . The Orphans' ri.l„ . Bill, and the Curor.ers' Bill (Ireland) were read a third and were presented fru,' -t the High gate Chapel Bill. A petiiion was presented fiem Hammersmith, complaining th it the Middlesex Water Works Company did nut pay pour rates. 3lr. BENNET preaented a petition from Debtors who had been C JJJJJJ nitwit from the. Bench prison to liorseinonger • lane jail by the Marshal. The hon. member was confident thu practice was illegal, and he should bring forward the winder ques • next session. Petitions from Brown and another individual were read, and ordered to be printed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought in the 10,'00,0001. Exchequer Bills Hill.—Rend a first time. The Isle of rdau Mateo Hill was ordered to be read a third time. The report of the Commercial Credit Bill (Ireland) was agreed to, and ordered to be read a third lime to-morrow. Mr. LUSIIINGTON presented the report of the committee respecting the printing of ancient histories. Mr. LAWSON took this opportunity to deny what bed been attributed to him by the ..11orseing lierald, of accusing Mr. Guthrie of malevolence in his resistance to Sir W. Al!yinit The report wits incorrect. Ile made this correction, because the misrepresentation bad given mush pain. Report agreed to and address ordered. Mr. GRANT presented a petition from the Grand Juri of Loath against the Constables' Bill. The report of the Canada Corm nment and Trade Dill was tat..it luau further emisideratitni sod ay tett to.—Ordered to be read 4 t Ir.' time to•otorrow. EAST 1\1 , 14 SCUAn TRADE t 7.0 question that the Gast India Sugar Trade Bill be committed, Mr. FORBES contended that whatever relief might be in tent:el for the West Indies, ought not to be at the expence of the East Indies. lie complained that the East laths interests were not sufficiently represent:ft iu that house. Ile coneiuded with moving that it be an instruction to the company to bate power to utter that part of the hill which imposed a ditty of I. ou East India sugar per cwt. Mr. LISIIINGTLIN said, the greatest anxiety had existed to adjust interests on this point ; nod that if any part v had reason to complain of advantage having preponderated, it aertainly was nut toe East India interest. The goverment was not indifferent to this question. The instruction was answers sary, • W here the qualities of the sugars were the same there ought to be like Mies. Rethought the act ought to be rm. newed for anther year. ..... Mr. MONEY said, this subject bad been very properly brought forward. lit (teemed the motion unanswerable. The objection was to the word" vaivie"—to enact respecting sugars tithe same value ; and he could not see where could be the objection to make that cleat in the bill which was avowed to have been the intentillll of the lover 1111 l ent. This bill would amount to a prohibition ; if it were intended to prohibit the importation of East India sugars, it would be more manly to bring in a bill on the question at time. Mr. FORBES tsid lie had opposed the bill in all its stages ; when there were half a dozen members present ; on the second reading alien there were a dozen present. The gallery was then partly cleared for a division, but the oppositio.i to Mr. F.'s motion was withdrawn, and the instruc tion was agreed to. . The bill was then referred to a committee. Report le mon oo . SINKING FUND lII'ME rose to bring forward the sinking fund resolutions, of which belied repeatedly given notice. lie denied it to be in the power of noires to to make out the ad% outages for which Mr. l'att and others had contended. The public were CloOflUOUb Insets by the transac tions enameled with the sinking fund. '1 liry loot. in the hest place, all the expences of management, and then the redemption of portions of the debt on worse term, than tho,e on whirl, Abe debt was mode-acted. Ile had ascertained that during the war the.:e bad been been an excess of expenditure ut 123,000,0031. —There was a loss iu tl.c simple tratioactiou of • uniting ninon amounting to 5,0410,M101.; Mut was 11 distiul lobs to the public. --f here had also been a great loss by contracting the del*. in various stuck—a loss to the amount eit 4a,000,1.10J1. Thereby considerable animal expence, was entailed on the country, an Om hon. mend). proceeded to prove by various mikulations respecting the dillerent species of stock. Ile then proceeded to notice tile produce of the taxes, is Lich produce had been 114,0Ju,0001. while the expenditure was 123.1,000,01.11.1. lit giving the amount of fates lie omitted the loans. Han big illustrated his resolutions, which were tairty eight in number, and were very long, he concluded with 11101 , 41 g them. The fol lowing is the first resolution : " That the national debt of Crept Britain unredeemed on the sth of Jan. 1703, was 2:l9,4„ill,tlstl.consietiug or 227.9M1,1401. of funded, and of 11,31;1M/01. 01 EXChOlitlel Bills, at au annual charge of 9,203,07 11." The following are others of his resolutions •—" That the debt has actually been increased to the dtllo.llll above stated, of 603,449,h491. at an ntinual charge of 25,312,6701. ; hereby demonstrating that the sinking fund system was founded in fal lacy', and had been 11161111.tillell by delusion. That, whether the financial system of the country he re garded, in reference to the increased burthi:n of 1,11E2871 per annum, occasioned by the commissioners (Attie sinking fund, in merely purchasing stock tin worse terms than tit which it was created, &c. " That, on taking • retrospective view or the result of a sinking feud, if five llioll4 per annum are applied fur 10 years, in the purchase of stock, at the rate of NIL money for every 1018. of 3 per cent. capital, cancelling the stock as it is pur. chased, it will airord an annual re.uissi:in of taxation to the amount of 1 85 ,1841. and it will redeem in ten years 61,72 8 ,3201. ut three per ceut. capital, (as stated in the parliamentary paper No. 151 of 18-2) the dividends on which will be 1,841,831/. affording en tt,;giegate 'emission of tasation annually to that &alumni, at the es;.iration of ten years, effected at 'he a ;regale espence of 30,400J/301. of lases ;—but if 3 million► per annum are employed as a sinking Cued for 10 yea, s, in the purchase of stuck at the rite of Mi. money fur 1001. of three per lent. with the dividends accruing thereon, the aggregate sums will purchase in that time 73, 01,1371. of three per cents. as stated in the parlia oentary paper lwri , re referred tu), the divi dends on which will be a,1141,0131., affording at the espiration of that time a remission of taxation to that amount, but on relief whatever, in the in.erval of the 10 'mutt, erected at the aggre gate eapeuce of 59,193,0131. of lases. That by the pieceding resolutice, it is seen, that under the operadna of • sinking fund afire millions per annum. at com pound interest, uo relief whatever from tas:lti •n will be afforded to the country for ten ye•ra, whilst the inunediate remission of ( Pcs , wxluwdiuw ue pap 24R.) 1 _ _ _"r