The National Register. — London, England, 1822-07-29 00:00:00

p bow and learned member added, that iu his opinion, the traus ections eatablished a prima facie ease, which called for the serious attention of the House. Motion agreed to. LAY/ StTOORITIFS, SCOTLAND.—Mr. HUME presented • petition from an ioslividual, complaining of the conduct of the Lord Advocate and of the Lord President Hope. The hon. member went into some details of the Lord Presideut, and complained of that Judge still retaining a command in a volun teer corps. such command had induced that Judge to hold language which was anbecoming of au individual holding such office. Tie LORD ADVOCATE paid, that the lion. member bad kept back such petition for three months ; that the individual had been punished ; and that his sentence had proceeded from the unanimous opinion of the Judges. Mt. PEEL observed, that ilia corps of which the Lord Pre sident had been colonel no longer existed : it had been dis banded ; not in consequence of any conduct traced to the Lord President, hat because it was no longer wanted. Mr. HUME made some observations, after which the peti tion was read. It was from au individual named Hay, of Leith, setting forth that he had married where • minor of the family had become entitled to property ; that the family bad in vain applied for justice for 30 years; and that the perseverance of the petitioner had s•.bjected hint to the prosecution of the Lord President Hope, &c. The petitioner further urged, that by a corrupt adiniristr•tion of the laws, he had lost his property ; and he therefore prayed the House to &ford him redress, to call for the papers illustrative of the case.—Petition ordered to lie on the table. a NISH I'lll aiza.—Mr. CANNING presented • peti tion from merchants of Liverpool, complaint's.: of the 'yawn% of piracy carried on in the West Indies, AA...under the Spanish colones. They had applied fur prince:ion in vain. The petitioners added, that the Antra cans had interfered Vlllllsuch piracies, and that they had li equently protected the flag. He mentioned instances of clod and severe proceedings of the pirates, where they bail coolly 111111 deliberately committed tont-tiers under the most horrible circumstances, alter having got on board the British vessels. Such was the character of the pro ceedings. He was sure, that if the mother country had lust the will or the power to interfere, this country must take into its own hands the protection of its own coin. tierce. At present our merchants were indebted to the courtesy of the Americans for coy protection they might have experienced against the pirates issmiue into the West chiefly from Spaniali Amok-a. This country, lie felt petsu•ded, must ultimately inlet fere. -• (Hear, hear.) Petition read. Sir G. COCKBURN observed, that when the colonies evinced the disposition to throw off the allegiance of the smother country, these vessels began their depredations; and the English forces had authority to interfere wherever they bad fair objects of suspicion; speaking generally, vet y serious outrages had taken place; but that was nut the case with Coba. (Hear.) There were vessels lying at Cuba, the pat ties belonging to which► watch. d trent their heights the vessels that passed by ; it' they were merchantmen, not men of war, then they sallied forth to pursue anti seize such vesweli. The :Hines were carried into Cuba. There was no proceeding against th e place, fur there was noshing but bate to &alloy. Our own ships had convoy, but we could not give convoy to foreign ships. He mentioned an instance (Capt. Bs isbane's case) where a vessel had been taken under convoy, it being supposed to be a Spanish, hut it proved to be a Portu guese vessel ; and in consequence of legal proceedtugs a verdict of 30,000 1 : had passed against such captain. Mr. CANNING explained. Lord LONDONDERRY said, the first time that the 'covet lament liesid of milli proceedings was in March last, from despatches and letters forwarded to his Lurd•hip's other. '1 lie government immediately called the attention N the Spanish Court to such outrages, setting forth, that it would be to the interest of both countries, to put an end to Niels proceedings, and adding, that if the Spanish Court did not teel it prudent to Intel fere, the English Govern ment innst take into its own hands, the protection of its own commerce. These haul been a good deal of corres pondence on the .subject, as also wilt she 1'1,111066es in the Havannaht and negociations were still proceeding,— His loi daily also adverted to a proceeding that had been adopted by this country. His lordship concluded with remarking that the English Government hod left nothing undone that was calculated to promote the beCUlity of our cu iiiiii eice. Pr thou ordered to be printed. Sir F. nuiti)Err presented ■ petition from Mr. H. Hunt against the prison laws.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. HUME postponed till Thursday the proposition of his resolution legal-ding the character or the sinking tutid. After some conversation on the merits ut the CtiPtila Trade 811, in the cootie of which Sir F. Burdett COMpli- Mr Ifivtl ministers tor having brought it fut ward, and charged the opposition with having promoted is vexatious cry against it, the Bill was withdrawn till next session. Mr. LEN NAItD brought forward the nrotiuu of which he had lot mei ly given notice, tur the production of copies of any coriespundence which had taken place between the government and the agent of the independent states of South America, or between the English allitrasiiddUr at Faits and that individual Lord LONDONDLItItY opposed the motion, on the groonds that negociations were still pending. 'rhe house then divided—Fur the motion, is—Against it, 52—Majority, 34. Mr. WILBERFORCE postponed his motion on the sisse trade to the :id of August. The repoil 01 the :MVO) , was then brought up, and after some can er,ailues was agueed to. The other usders were disposed of and the house auljo nett. t.DNIsnA , JULY 21. • new writ was ordered to be issued for Stockbridge, in the room of J. F. Barron, Esq. who had accepted the Chiltern et undreds. Mr. HOME moved, that the Civil List returns regarding Ireland be printed.—Ordered. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in a Commit tee of Ways and Means, moved, that the rower be granted to issue 16.31.10,0U01. its Exchequer Bilis.--Agreed to. Report In-morrow. 'I he further consideration of the report of the Stamp Duties' Bill was postponed till to morrow. The Spirits Exportation Bill (Scotland) went through icorn• mince.- -Report to-morrow. The Greenland Fisheries Bill was ordered to be read a third lime to-morrow. The Isle of Man Postage Bill went through a committee.— Report to -o.oll'ow. lb« 1%0 tttttt errlal Credit Bill went tlarau.il, a cliusuittee.-its int to-morrow. • • THE NATIONAL REGISTEIt The King's Bench Bill was read a third time, end passed. Mr. COURIEN AY presented the report of the fias Wash ings' Bill. Further consideration of the report postponed till-morrow. Mr. S. RICE presented a petition from inhabitants of Surrey and Middlesex, praying the House to take into consideration the distresses of Ireland. Mr. H. GURNEY said, that the Pour Lows ought to be ex teotled to Ireland. Mr. S. RICE trusted that there would be no such extension of the Poor Laws. Petition ordered to be printed. LICENSING SrsTest.—On the question that the Lords' Amendments to the Licensing 11111 be agreed to, Mr. G. BENNET expressed his regret at the amendments of their lordships ; they made the bill worse than what it was be fore.—Amendments agreed to. The punishment by Hard Labour Bill was read a third time, and passed. The report of the Tythe Leasing Bill was presented and agreed t o. Mr. lIUME moved for accounts of loan: contracted since 1793, and various other accounts. Also of expired annuities, or those that might have fallen in since 1793, Sec.—Ordered. Mr. HUME presented a petition from Mr. Bredlield, of Par liament-street, coal-merchant, complaining of the present state of the coal metage; of the negligence of the present principal coal meters; and praying for a revision of the laws on the sub ject, ender which the public now so severely suffered. The petitioner had preferred charges against some persons, and, as he represented, they had been proved to the satisfaction of the Treasury. The hon. member said he should hereafter move for returns of the principal coal meters. Mr. LUSHINGION thought if there were any ground for complaint, they should have heard as much from the coal mer chants. . . . . Mr. HUMS replied, that one of the principal coal meters bad been absent in Ireland for a year, as a isommissioner of in quiry into the state of the revenue; now %hat check would be for tile public ?—Petition ordered to be printed. Politic PRF:3S, SCUTLAND.--..LOrd A. HAMILTON lament ed his absence yesterday, when the Lord Advocate hrought forward his motion. He now wished to know %rliether there id been any dismissal of Mr. Ayton, the sheriff substitut, of Lanarkshire, or whether any hint had been gi%eu that would secure his retirement. Mr. PEEL said, he had not felt himself called upon to re cuatmend the dismissal of such individual. The House went into a committee on the affairs of the late Queen. Mr. LUSHINGTON moved a grant of 82471. to make up the snot of 12,0001. that would hare been due to the late Queen Caroline. Mr. HUME expressed his astonishment at the breach of faith of which the ministers had bet-ti guilty. They held out, if their case were proved, that her Majesty should then hale the regular outfit, &c. ; that justice had hot been done. The debts of the late Queen w ere 31,0001.; the assets were only 26,0001. why did not the government make up such deficiency ? It was expected that her Majesty was to cave a carriage, ‘cc. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that her Majesty had a liberal allowance, and that the whole quarter was now proposed to be made nut. Mr. Alderman WOOD said that her Majesty's debts, when she died, amounted to only 4,1001. ; that they were occasioned by extra demands, which a letter of veto high authority de clared should be paid ; and that had she lived over the quarter, all the debts would have been paid. Mr. T. WILSON observed, that if the debts were so small in amount, he thought the Parliament would not act unwisely in detisying them. (Hear.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHECUER understood that all just demands were to he paid. Hr. lIUME observed that he wooLf produce Lard Liverpool's letters, suing that such expences were to be incurred, the house, the carriage, and the like; and he would put it to tile house and the country, whether any one could have expected such expences were to be met by the Queen's salary. Alderman WOOD asked, if such were not the intention, why persons were sent to ascertain whether the carriages, &e. were worth what were to be charged for them t (Hear.) Resolution agreed to. Mr. GOULBURN moved a grant of 30,0001. to carry on the Works at Dunleary, now called George IV:a Harbour. — Agreed to. Mr. ARBUTHNOT moved 7,2001. for commissioners of courts of justice ; and 20,0001. for African fort.. Agreed to. Lord PALMERS roN brought forward the proposed grant regarding the Opthalmic !Invite!, moving that 1,0001 be granted to Sir W. Adam for four years' attendance to the hospital. Mr. G. BENNET contended that the expenditure for this opthalmic establishment had been most improvident ; and that the opthahnia was vulgarly called Egyptian. Sir W. Admit, after trying his own plan without effect, was obliged to resort to the old system of management—the mild, humane, and ra tional system of Dr. Vetch, and the practice of ISO. Yet to that excellent individual they could only get one word of com pliment into the report by mere foree. All the medical autho rities who had exerted themselves, and who might he supposed to have resisted, were unsuspected. He was ready to admit that Sir W. Adam was entitled to remuneration for attendance. Tu that he should have no objection. He thought him entitled to 2,0001. instead of 4,0001. He concluded with moving to substitute 2,0001. ins cad of 4,000. . . The amendment was negatived without a division. Report to-morrow. -- house then went into a committee respecting the printing of ancient histories. The CHANCELLJR of the EXCHEQUER brought for ward the proposition for an address to his Majesty, iirajing that he would be graciously pleased to order that the ancient records of the kingdom be printed, and that the house wuulti wake good the expence attending the same. After some conversation the address was agreed to. The house then went lido a committee on the Superannuation Act Amendment Bill. _ ...... The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated the nature of the bill to the committee. Its object was to deduct from the salaries of certain individuals holding public offices a per centne on their salaries, by which n fund was to be formed to provide to a certain extent tnr their superannuation, alter a certain period of services, or other circumstances obliging them them to retire. The committee proceeded to d.scoss the several clauses. Ou that which prov ided tuat salaries from 301. to MI. a year should pay 2), per cent. Mr. CALCRAFI objected to bringin; the scale below 1031. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQIER said, he was ready to adopt this objection of the hon. gent. he had fixed SOl. to avoid any objection whidi might arise in the committee. lla would now propose, that the scale sho•dd coma: nee at 1001.— Ftotu 1001. to 2001. to pay 21 per cent. ; alu..ae 2041. to 1 ,3 .) 5 L.Cr c•t:t. The eianse souehdr.d en flit ••pt Toe geVqlll other - .11 . .;*es o,* tit* Dal w.:e, sciute ~.etv sation agreed to, and the bill ordered to be reported to-morrow - The other orders were disposed of, and the bons. adjourned. I.!k•DAY. JULIi 2.4 The Orphans' Fulid 8.11, and the Wooers* Bill (Ireland) were read a third time and passed. Petitions were presented from Finchlay, against the High gate Chapel Bill. A petition was present vl frem Hammersmith, complaining that the Middlesex Water Works Company did not pay poor rates. Mr. BBNNET presented a petition from Debtors who had been committed from the King's Eolith prison to Hursemonger• lane jail by the Marshal. The bon. member was confident the practice was illegal, ■nd he should briu{ forward the whole question next session. Petitions from Brown and another individual were read, and ordered to be printed. The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER brought in th► 18,500,0001. Exchequer Bills 11111.—Read a first time. The Isle of .11ati Postage Bill was ordered to be read a third time. The report of the Commercial Credit Bill (Ireland) was agreed to, end ordered to be read • third ti ne to-morrow. Mr. LUSHINGTON presented the report of the committee respecting the printing of sncient histories. Mr. DAWSON took this oppoitunity to deny what had been ettributcd to him by the Morning Herald, of accusing Mr. Guthrie of malevolence in his resistance to Sr' W. Adams.— The report was incorrect. He wade this correction, because the misrepresentation had given much pain. Report agreed to and address ordered. Mr. GRANT presented a petition from the Grand Jury of Louth against the Constables' Bill. The report of the Canada Go. cruelest and Trade Bill was taken into further consideration and agreed to.—Ordered to be rend a third time to-morrow. EAST INDIA SUGAR TRADE BILL.-011 the question that the Eaat India Sisgar Trade Bill be committed, Mr. FORBES contended that whatever relief might be in tended for the West Indies, ought not to he at tie eapeace of the East Indies. He complained that the East Indio interests were not sufficiently represeeted in that house, He concluded with moving that it be an instruction to the company to have power to alter that part of the bill which imposed • duty of 21. .is. on East India sugar per cwt. Mr. LUSH INGTON said, the greatest inxiety had existed to adjust couOicting inte:estsun this point; and that if any party bad reason to complain of advantage having preponderated, it aertaiuly Was not the East linlia iuterest. The goverument was not indifferent to this question. The instruction was unneces sary, Where the qualities of the sugars were the same there might to be like duties. He thought the act ought to be re newed for anether year. Mr. MONEY said, this subject 'had been very properly brought forward. He deemed the motion unanswerable. The objection Ass to the word " value"—to enact respecting sugar. of the same value ; sod he could not see where could be the objection to snake that clear in the bill which was avowed to base been the intention of the government. This bill would amount to a prohibition ; if it were intended to prohibit The importation of East India sugars, it would be more manly to bring in a bill ou the question at once. Mr. FORBES esid lie bad opposed the bill in all its stages ; when there were half a dozen members present ; oo the second reading when there were a dozen preterit. The gallery was then partly cleared for a division, but the opposition to Mr. F.'S 11101 jun wan withdrawn, and the instrue trim was agreed to. The hilt was then referred to • committee. Report to. morrow. SINKING FUND TIFSOLVTIONS.—Mr. HUME rose to bring forward the sinking fund reaulutions, of which he had repeatedly given notice. He denied it to be in the power of figures to to make out the advantages for which Mr. Pitt and others had contended. The public were enormous losers by the transac tions connected with the sinking fund. They lost, in the first place, all the evinces of management, and thee the redemption of portions of the debt on worse terms than those on which the debt was contracted. He had ascertained that during the war there had been been an excess of expenditure of 123,000,0001. —There was a loss in the simple tratisactiun of uniting alone amouuting to 5,000,0001.; that was n diatint loss to the public. —There had al.-, been a great loss by coutractiug the debts in various stock—a loss to the amount of 25,0J0,00J1. Thereby conaiderable anneal evence, was entailed on the country, as the hon. member proceeded to prove by various calculations respecting the ditkrent species of mock. He then proceeded to notice the produce of the taxes, which produce had been 114,003,0001. while the expenditure was 1235,000,1103. in giving the Animist of taxes he omitted the loans. Having illustrated his resolutions, which were thirty eight in number, and were very long, he concluded with moving them. The fol lowing is the lirst resolution That the national debt of Great Britain unredeemed on the 3th of Jan. 1793, was 230,350,1151. consisting of 227.9e:3.1491. of funded, and of 11,361,0001. of Exchequer Bills, at an annual charge M 9,203,9741." The following are ()there of his resolutions •—" That the debt has actually been increased to the amount above stated, ul 603,449,5591. at an enema charge of e5,312A1701. ; hereby demonstrating that the milling fund system was founded iu lacy, and had been meintained by deluaion. " That, whether the financial system of the country be re garded, in reference to the increased barthen of 1,141.2671 per ammo, occasioned by the cominissioncrs of the sinking fund. in merely purchasing stock on worse terms than at which it was created, Nc. " That, on taking a retrospective view of the result of • sicking feud, if live 111111k/11S per annum are applied fur 10 years, in the purchase of stock, at the rate of alt. money fur every 1001. of 3 per rent. capital, cancelling the stuck as it is pur dinned, it will alford an minted remission of taastiun to the amount of 1 65 i155 1 . and it will redeem in ten years 61,726,3201. of three per cent. ' , spilt I. (as state; io the pallet/tottery paper No. 151 of 15.:2) the dividends on which will be 1,551,14 affording an aggregate remission of taxation annually t r :hat amount, at the expiration of ten years, effected at the a g gregate expence of 30,00J.0061. of tastes ;—but if 3 millions per annum are employed as a sinking fund for 10 yeati, in the purchase of stock at the rate of NI:. money for 1001. of three per cent. cav il', with the dividends sccrnieg thereon, the aggregate sums will purchase in that time 73,101,4371. of three per cents. as stated in the puha eentary paper before referred to), the di. i deride on which will be :.,103.0131., affording at the ear.ra:son of that titne a remiseion o: tisemem to thet amount, but :10 relief whatever, in the imerval of the 10 years, effected at the aggre gate eapeace of 59,103,0431. oh' tax: a. " That by 11. e preceding resolution. it is -een, that under the operation of a sinking lend of five millions per 'annum, at com pound intrrett, no relief whatever from taeutim will be afforded 1,3 this wenn . ; far test years. w bilst the inain.eliste Ett4ll4l4oa of ruultr !kr LI! sir ivy ;40.)