The National Register. — London, England, 1821-07-08 00:00:00

tin •ittriertat Varlumunt. HOU EOF LORDS. lIONUA V, JI.LY 2. The royal assent was given iry commission to the Lean hill, the Exchequer Bills bill, the Irish Treasury Bills bill, tee Bank of Ireland bill, the Wool Importation, the Irish Trawler of Stock, the Navel Stores, Scotch Distilleries, Scotch Malt Ditties, Wool Registry, Vagrant Laws Amend 111Plit, County Rates, Justices of the Peace, East India 'Prude, Fur Trade Regulation, Salvage, British White lieu ring Fishery, Irish Coal Yards, Thames Lastage and Ballast, and several psivete comniiiseioners were the Lord Chattrillor, the East of Shaftesbury, and the Duke 111 . Montrose. r. R. Martin and several members from the Commons brought itp the 11l treatment of Hordes bill, and several otherios hick were read the first time. llesenver LAWS BILL—Lord DACRE adverted le the intention expreased by the noble and learned lord on the woolsack, to introduce a measure to regulate the bankrupt laws, and observed he should nut press the bill alien before the honse. The LORD CHANCELLOR then intimated his inten tion to submit to the house some regulation on that jinenrialit subject, and gave notice that lie should bring in Site bill next sea • of parliament. 'flue bills um the table were forwarded in their respective stages. On the motion of the Earl of LAUDERDALE, the vs ((((( 1 leading of the 11l treatment of Horses bill was fixed ler Wednesday. Pviii.rc lir:so:sou v,_,Ste.—Earl DARNLEY rose on the order ut the slay to address the house on the present state sit the country. He said, he had to advert to the subject ui ecuisiony amidst an apparent apathy on the part of use nieuiliets of that house. The estimate* for the present year were large beyond precedent, and to remedy the evil strong measures were necessary. lie did not look to any 11l I l 114IC curtailment iu the public expenditure. The reties.% of small salaries in this or that departineut ass nut has object. He felt convinced that government, by a Kernels i fort to pi mole economy, might save millions.— The tether cart then adverted to the present state of the navy, which lie considered much higher than the public requii ed. They had TS ships of the line and 67 frigates in situ' nine of the line were building. This force occasioned an expence which might be reduced. and a considerable saving effected. 'the reduction of stork-yin d, which lie lerstutel was in contem plation, would produce a saving alone of 149,2901. Build ing ships and conveying timber to the Thames produced r:11 entre mous sum. On that expence alone a deductiou of half a million lulled be lopped off. He then came to the great national wutk at Sheerness. The works already done might satisfy the country, without adding 280,00011., the elm to be paid this year. He supposed at least 40,0001. might be deducted from the estimate. In the naval department a saving of at least 800,0001. might be effected.—With regard to the army, he could not help thiiiking many retrenchments might be made. The horse and tout guards occasioned an expence of 315,0001. He could not help thinking his Majesty was surrounded by more i mards ilia° necessary. On that head of service Bd,oool. inigkt be deducted, and lease a force sufficient for She assistance ef the police. Deductions in the inten tly and yeomanry might also be made, and prudence a deduction altogether of 400,0001. 'The sum of '250,0001. was voted fur the expence of barracks. He thought a seviiig might be made on that item. Instead of -4;0,0001. 1b3,0401. might be sufficient. Upon the army alone there might be a deduction of 700,04101. If those also said y was their object would eider into all the details, they might proceed to a sale of lands and buildings which had never been of any use. If economy was the object, there could be no doubt that a saving of 10 per cent. might be made in every department of gover 1111 l rise lie then adverted to the civil list—giving the Monarch all the splendour due to Isis dignity, nothing could add more to the satisfaction of the people than sacrifices on the part of the crown. lie did nut wish to be invidious, but lie was sure a great reduction Mehl take place in that head of expenditure. Tee expence of foreign ministers per haps was slut more than necessary, but when a crisis ass approaching, like that which he was persuaded would soon happen, ministers ought to 'wench to the utmost, and a saving of at least 2,000,e001. might be effected. In the expence occasioned by the collection of the revenue at least half a million might be saved. The noble earl concluded by moving that an humble edifices be pre sented to his Majesty, imploi 1l i iii to take into his most serious consideration the difficulties and distresses of the country, end praying his Majesty to give directions to diminish the expellees in all the great departments of state, ate. The Earl of LIVERPOOL slid nut object loan address to his Majesty to pt °mote economy, but lie differed upon the terms used by Lot d Dartiley, and proposed another address, " to *were Ilia Majesty that die house regarded with sensfaction the reduction made this year in the cus toms, •sad bi geed that similar investigation may be made in all Wenches of the pubiic expenditure ; and to beseech hie Majesty to order uuquiry into the civil departments, with a s of making eves) , possible reduction in the eaprilee of ges at establishments which the country is 'Aimed to nosintain," Ace. 411tO,NEISOR gave his decided preference to the mo'llllll4 tits noble lib nil (Earl Darnley.) lie had beard time inutile eat I state to the noose oil former occasions the •ery same mast's AllteS they had jibt heard from ltim. The sinews of war were to be tomtit wily in the ptusperity of the count, Gaudy sliowe and Mittel fly exhibittuna xs until nl bi come the dt.tiessy• of a nation already borne mist mi by dist' ; and nothing could mute fit only esta blish his Maim sty uu thetldune 'hats et. Thin brought Inns to the et-lemony winch was slimily to lake place. He consideted the advice given tot seintle the Queen limn the CU1L.14 , 111011 Admitting the law to be cleat agaiust ite CI ow Mug of the thiceit, amid her Maje•ly had co light to be present, still, under the peen bat CllClSlllStallet's of the country, the advice given to l'Sclitile her was injudicious. He knew it was said his Dlisjesty conl.l set a•lde cointiation of the queen by the precedent et Henry t , ie Seventh ; but he believed it would appear the marrisige •1 that Monarch did nut take place mold atter the corm,dttuil, and it so, it would furnish lii) precedent. He had bet it always of opinion, that unless the coronation WAS without Mffilid lie it Matti and Idle pageant. Thi• life and chum of the cereneutiy would Ile the ;;will w hdies of ills' people; hilt, above all, he was disposed to depts. este the tittp:oy meld of soldiers. In In. NATIONAL It :GISTER opinion, there could tout be a greater insult to the and the people than saying the Monarch should not , bonally show himself to Ins subjects, but walk along platform amidst troops, surrounded only by the military and a host of bayonets. He knew it would be said that soldiers usually attended these ceremonies. He would say, let them attend, but not be placed to obscure the splendour of the ceremony. Lord MELVILLE defended the arrangements made in the naval department, and contended that due attention had been paid to economy is that branch of that service. After some further discussion, Lord Darnley's address was rejected, and that moved by the Earl of Liverpool agreed to.—Adjourned. TUESDAY. JULY S. The Chancellor of the Excheyner, and several members from the Commons, brought up the bill to make further provisions for his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence, which was read the first time. The Earl of LtkUDEIIDALE said, although lie dill not mean to oppose the grant to his Royal Highness the Duke of Clarence, there were smite parts of the bill on which, at a future stage, he should make a few observations. Several bills on the table were read a third time and passed. The other bills were forwarded a stage, and the Imlay adjourned. WEDNESDAY. JULY 4. ILL.TRZATMENT OF HORSES' ISlLL.—Several petitions were presented in favour of the ill-treateneut of horses' hill- They were severally read, and laid on the table. The Etil of LAUDERDALE, adverting to the bill to which the above petitions referred, observed that it was difficult for the house to entertain such a measure. The law, as it stood, was sufficient to punish cruelty to ani mals. Until he had heard some peer come forward to move the second reading, he should take no lisrther no tice of the bill. The following bills, passed last night in the House of Contntons, were brought up by Mr. Brogden and other members, who had been deputed fur the purpuse.—Tho lotteries bill, the Irish stamp duties, exchequer bills, pub lic works, customs relief, appropriation, tobacco ditties, stud bankreptcy courts, which were read the first time. The Duke of Clarence's grant bill was read the second time, and committed for to-morrow. HUSBANDRY HORSES BILL—The Earl of LAUDER DALE said, he should postpone any observations he had to make on this bill until the third reading, as by that time lie expected some revenue returns would be laid on the table. A petition was then presented from Bridewell Precinct, by the Earl of Shaftesbury, in favour of the ill-treat ment of horses bill. The EA..' of Carrington presented a similar petition from St. Andrew's in the Wardrobe. Petitions were also presented from the merchants of London and Clapham, by Lord Melvile ; from Southamp ton, by the Earl of Carnarvon ; from Whitby, by Lord Amherst ; and from Brighton and Hastings by the Earl of Limerick. The lunatics trustees bill, the mohair bounties, and the warehousing bill, were read the third time. The Irish silt bounties, the Irish customs collection bill, the hops exportation bill, the Isle of Man trade, and captured slave vessels bills, passed through committees. — The house then adjourned. /VA' 5. The claim of the Earl of Latium, and the Marquis of Donegal, to vole at the election of Irish peers, wits allowed. The order for the attendance of me judges, in this house to morrow, to decide in the case of KIIIIIChr, Woolf, and 'niters, was discharged, and fixed again fur Nlonday. Mr. Mason, from the East India Home, ',restated an ac count relative to salaries and disbursements. Lord CALTHORPE presented a petition front Hull, in favour of a bill to prevent the ill treatment of horses, which was read and laid on the table. The bills before the house were severally forwarded in their respective stages. Tun Dyne or C &&&&& cies Gas ar.—The Earl of LAUDERDALE addressed the house on the subject of the bill for making additioual provision for his Royal flightless toe Duke of Clarence. The noble eatl approved of the grant, on the ground that the other house had given a sum which might be considered the filed and regular allowance which ought to be made to all the royal dukes. He then adverted to the case of another illustrious person, the Doke of Cumberland, who certainly was ,placed in a situation which did not prove the justice and consistency of podia went. The noble earl considered the claim of that royal per.onage to the liberality of parliament equal to any other, and unless there was a justifiable departure from the panel. pies he had heforestated,of makingune bird provision for the royal dukes, the Duke of Cumberland's claim could not be passed over. if ministers did not sul such a propositiou to parliament, he had still in his own hands the power of moving an address to his Majesty, st.ding the grounds on which grants to the royal faintly should he made. In Case he found it necessary, he should certainly move such address, and whatever might be the result. he should have the salts factioa of reflecting that he bad d • his duty. The Earl of LIMERICK agreed to every thing that had fallen from the noble earl. The bill was then committed for to•morrow, and the house adjourned. FRIDAY, aoLv 6. The LORD CHANCELLOR unended the house (hit day soots after tour o'clock. 7 1flie Enrl of Sli A FIESBURY presented a petition. put into his hand by R. ftlurtut, M. P. tor Galuay, from Chip %sell. tit the couuty of Esws, in favour of the bill to puni,h nail pr.•vrnt cruelty to utornals.—The petition was read and laid ou the table. The nsbessed tries' bill was read a third time. The Dube of Clarence's bill passed through a committee, was agreed to wit hunt iimendnient, and repotted to the house. The appropriation bill, the hanks opt( y court bill, the custom-Moose officers' hell, the exchequer hills bill, the me. sropolis police bid, the lottery hill, the Irish stamp duties' bill, and the tobacco duties bill, were severally cooau itted. The house then adjourned to Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. 140N1lAY, JULY 2. The house was summon, d to attend the house of Peers, to hear the royal Abetilt given' by commission to sundry bills. (See Lords 1 The bankruptcy court bill went through a committee.— Iteiiort to morrow. - . . A person from the tVretmineter•bridge commissionen pre• 'rifled their anno..l Mr. AR BUTHNO 1 prevented certain accounts relative to praying in... inquir, be instituted as to the reasons for withdrawing the renewal of the patent to that thentre.—Ordered to be printed. Mr. H. CLIVE moved an address to hi. Majesty, praying that he would give directions for the printing of the ninth report of the commissioners to enquire into the fees of the Scotch esurts.—Ordered. The captured slaves' hill was read a third time, and passed. Lord LONDONDERRY, in reply, to the enquiry from from Sir J. Macintosh, stated that he did not consider it would be pendent now to lay before the house the documents on which he communicated the opinion of the French government the other night on the measures adopting fur abolishing the slave trade. Lord LON DONDEftRY moved that the Dnke of Cla• rence's additional asinuity bill be now rend third tune. Mr. CREEVEY again opposed it. It was too mach to think of taking the money from the pockets of the people in such house—when there was a compact family circle op. posite, the servants of the crown, who, iu reality decided the question; wheu there was any measure for the relief of the people ► then it was considered that three or four hundred were too small a house. That the people might see how their money was voted away; that they may judge of the select few who settled the biniviers, be certainly should take the sense of the house on the present question. Mr. BEECHER resisted the bill. He was against the payment of what the bill called" Arrears t" and lie thought that if any member had suggested any thing of this kind three or four years ago, he would run great risk of being laughed at. He felt it to be his duty to resist the Nn SERGEANT OUNSLOW supported the hull. The. arrears could nut be looked at in any other light than as an outfits . Mr. hIONCK said, however ungrai ions it might seem, he roast resist this bill. The only way of fu•filling the promises of the house was to resist such extravagaut grants as this.— Econoinywas now necessary—a ithout it, he felt persuaded that the interest of the debt could nut be paid. Lord A. HAMILTON resisted tile arrears. Mr. BROUGHAM said, he sl Id oho vote agniost the arrears. On Saturday the subject of the • had been mentioned ; and the noble lord accused the Queen's law advisers of a delay of more than two m o nth's. !lad he mid one month, it might have been nearer the mark. May 21 the subject of the coronation was first mentioned—but there was no answer to the enquiry whether the Queen aas to be crowned ; Lord Londonderry, however, said that the Queen had no right to be crowned without the orders of the King, but even if it should be otherwise, he and the other ministers were not prepared to advise that the Queen should be crowned. Such was the noble lord's opinion. He (Mr. B.) then protested against being considered as acquiescing in tech do:.trioe. But the Queen's law officers were not called on to act till the proclamation for the coronation was issued, and then till the Queen's commands were received— but as to the delay, only eleven days elapsed front the issuing of the proclamation and the forwards% of a memorial f his chambers. That was not tun short a time to settle SO i ..portant a case, especially when it was recollected how important was the question, and bow difficult it tans to get at the requisite documeats in the British museum and else. where....( Hear, hear!)—But there was Mill no great pressure of time; there was still seventeen days before the cornoation we. proposed to take place; and there were ILISIRIICCS on record no the seventeenth century where there had ►een only sixteen day s notice given. Lord LONDONDERRY observed, that the attention of the Queen's law officers must have been long turned to this sub ject, for soon after the issuing of the proclamation, the Queen demanded to know in a hat character she w as to ap pear at the coronation. The ministers replied that the right was with the crown to give directions, and that the ministers were not prepared to advise any directions on the subject. What ministers complained of was, that there was such slowness of demand, white such quickness of reply was expected; and the tune of the learned gentleman (Mr. Den man) was most significant nod decidedly criminatory, nn plying a charge of a denial of justice. Now there had been three memorials, the first on toe Yfith tilt. The one received to-day, forwarded yesterday, claimed to be heard before the King iu council; that was the regular course of pro ceeding ; and the request had been complied with, trom favour amid grace, not as matter of right. Her Majesty was 110% to he heard by her counsel before the pr,v) tweed, n support of her claims. Mr. DEN MAN said lie had felt surprised that the minis• ters should have givers such advice as they professed to have odered, 'without be jug prepared to ;Mimi mesons for so doing, or without making any communication ma tile subject to her Majesty ; just as the question was now put in courie of itlVeli• ligation, lie should abstain front making any fin t her remarks. The house then divided. Ayes 94—Noes 33—Majority in favour of the hill 61. . . Lord A. HAMILTON, on our re entering the gallery. was proceeding to propose a resolution to prevent the instance of granting arrears from being drawn too precedent ; he required it to be entered on the journals, and it wns moved ou the question that the bill do now pas, Lord LONDONDERRY said, that the question heel already been fully argued; it Was unnecessary for lain to trouble the house in reply to the question now submitted. The motion was then put and negatived aII ~,ut a d,vi sion ; and the bill was then passed and ordered to the lord.. Warns neTES Anase.--Dr. Pill LLIMORL begged to state, at the request of the Dean of Wear-um:der, that they had laid out 39,0001. in the repaint of the Abbey antral the last 20 years; the Dean wished to state thus much in reply to what had been stated on a former evening about the dirty state of the Abbey. That dirt it mint be recollected, was lIW lug partly to the. smoky condition of the atmosphere. As to the profits likely to be derived from the approaching coronation, by letting seats in the Abbey, they had been much over-rated, they would nut amount '4)30001. and those profits woule be applied, adcoi ding to immemorial custom, to certain purposes other than repair iiig the Abbey. He made these statement at the request of the Demi of Weotninster. PREVENTIVE SERVICE.—Sir W. H. CRISPIGNEV moved for a copy or the warrant to a man named Brook, of the preveutitive service, on the Weymouth and Port land station, authorising them to search a married an man, &c. It was stated, that the search was made 111 all llefelltliVe manner. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER shouhl move the previous, questiou, as the motion had beet' mad , without inquiry. Mr. BENNET thought that the motion had better be withrawn, or a notice giveu to the ticavury iumituting ' . King the increase and decrease of salaries, since, 11'93.—Ordered per- to be printed, on motion of Mt. Creevey. g the Mr. GRATTAN presented a petition from 'minim inha- litary bitants of Crow-street theatre, praying that an inquiry should . .