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-40- HOUSE OF LORDS. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. MONDAY, PCB. S. The Lonn CitAsteettote emouninicated to the House the answer of his [loyal I tigliness to the Address of the House, presented on Saturday lost. Lord THAN pre,ented a Petition from Helms/ Hunt, complaiiiiug of treatitlent which had TOCeiveil tient reliant persons in the pay of governmeat, who, he said, under pre tence of his being a sedulous person, had conspired against his personal safety. The Petitioner uow colitend; , d, that so far from his beingsseditilms, or inimical to the govertiment, lie had, on all OCeatilOOS Of danger, stood forward, and offered his aid in support of the Constitotion particularly at the commencement of the war; and again iii 1802, when fears of invasion were entertained; at which time be offered to the Lord Lieutenant of the county ill Which be resided, the aid of his property, as well As his personal service. The Petition then went into a history of the Bliitol Meeting, and set tin th the circumstance of the bids, Whirl) the Prtifiuner called libels on his character, which were posted about the no tro pidis, and for pulltag down one of which, a poor and honest boy, main -d Thomas Hogirkil. was a l ipreliewled and impri soned. The Petitioner prayed that he might be allowed tot opportiiiiiiy of proving all these facts at the bar of their Lordships' House. lit I.An'tl CH ‘NICE.I.LOR hoped their Lordships would pause b dine they received this Petition. They were only authoris. il to rec. iv: Petitions in cases where they had the power of esteading relief: in this case they had not that power. The C torts of Justice were open; and to them, if the tition..r was aggrieved, lie might apply. The Hoa..- its liciliately rejected the Petition. Le-•t TritAN et then pres.mted a Petition from T. Dogood. compla MIL of his apprehension for pulling down the posting -bill; a id lite severity of his treatment whilst in prison ; and pre , iiie -0 be hear d at the bar of the floosie. This Petition was also, after a few words from the Lord CHAIIICt.4I.OR, rejected. THE sTITE OF THE COUNTRY. Lord Sinsuiurtt delivered a Message from liis Royal High :less the Prince Regent on this subject.--Set Commons Re- Fort. LorJ SIDMO.TH moved, that his Royal Highness's Message shon.d ne taken into considi ra•iim to-morrow .—Oodered. THANKS TO LORI) EXMOIT H. Lord MELvi JAE then rose to propose a Vote of Thanks to Lor.l Eviiimtli, the °nieces and Alen under his command, for their conduct in the late attack upon Algiers. 'rite Noble Lord then proceeded to detail the different circumstances altrinf ug that glorious enterprise. or.l TOURINGTON seconded the mot;on. T... no•time Was then 'Netted to. he thanks te eri• then moved to Rear Admiral Milne, to the (Cheers and Seamen, and in Rear :Admiral Vim Capellen. —1 lie severat motions were agreed to, and the House ad jottrue:d. TUESDAIi , FEB. 4. THE PRINCE'S MESSAGE. Lord SIDMOUTH rose• to propose an Address to his Royal Highness, in answer to the Message sent down to the House yesterday. Nothing but a strong course of necessity could have prevailed on his Royal Highness now to make this com munication. Into the particulars of these conspiracies it could not be axpeeted he should enter; all he meant was, to propose, that the papers now laid before the House by the 1 1 % ince Regent's CO111111.111(1 should be referred to a Committee of the House. IVhai ulterior steps it might be necessary to take on this occasion, he should not now advert to. It might be praper, however, to say, that the information contained in those papers required to be met with energy. Govern ment had for some time been in possession of information respecting these meetings and combinations; and, indepen dent of the outrage Lad violence offered to his Royal High ness on Tuesday last, iu his way from that House, had that disgraceful outrage never °centred, still his Majesty's Go vernment were iu possession of such informetion as they would have considered it their duty to have communicated to the House. The Noble Lord concluded by moving an Address to his Royal Highness the Prince Regent, thanking his Royal Highness for his gracious comn 1111 l icatien; and as suring his Royal Highness, that the House would lose no time itt taking into consideration the papers which had this day been laid before them. Lord GuosvEsion observed, the Noble Lord had made a most serious charge against a numerous body of his Majesty's subjects, which he hoped could not be sabstantiated. The House, however, would no doubt agree in the motion for re ferring these papers to a Committee. Thos much he would say. let the discontents of the people be much or little, it was caused by the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers, in having from time to time refused to listen to the cries and prayers of the people, on reform and retrenchment. Lord tioi.t.stin regretted that the step at present adopted by Government was requisite. He trusted no extraordinary step would be attempted on this occasion unless absolutely necessary. 'the Noble Lord expressed his satisfaction at the assurance which the Noble Lord opposite had given, that the present measure did not originate in the atrociolis attack upon his Royal Highness, which, though it could not be recollected without exciting indignation, could not be taken as the act of the people, or as such a circumstance as called for any extraordinary measure of precaution being adopted. He was convinced, however a few individuals might have inisconducted themselves, the great body of the people were loyal and well affected ; and hr trusted nb mea sure invading their hberties would be funnel necessary to be adopted. . . Cord LIVERPOOL con,idered the coarse now adopted as the most eonstitotional which could be devised. Care had been taken so to word this Message, and the Address in an swer to it, as to void pledging the House to the adoption of any ulterior ineasiire. His Noble Ft lend, in his short ad dress to the House, had so far from wishing to pledge the House, declared that he had yet formed no opinion him:elf. He had requested the House also to go inibia‘s e d the proposed Committee; awl he (L)rd Liverpool) had co doubt that their Lord -hips would go into a Committee delta mined to pay every attt Wiwi to the (;onstittition, with every ft cling of tenderness towards tile io•ople, but at the same ;lute is ith a ileterminattoo to guard all our legal and roil. stitat.onal esdaltlishmenis front danger. A Noble Earl (Gros treool) had said Isis Majesty's Ministers had thrown out a heavy charge against a great hotly of the people; tshere would the Nook Lord 41 of it ( Lord G. said," in the Spack from the ! iwone.") In the speech no such charge was ill ruven eat tig.‘i: 1, ;teat body of the people; on the cif:wary, 1 u ~~, ~TTR• the Speech from the Throne ticela ed the e""ti'k nee which his Royal Highness had tu the It %ail) , of the great body of the people. Lord Grtest observed, if his IM,:jc•tv'i !ttitti , ters had in formation of such circumstance. e \:stitig they truvi intirna led in the hlessa. , e, it was their ditty to committee:ate them to Parliasnent, and they could only do so in the way in which they had done it. Whether th , re tva , or not ,01:dicient cause to authorize. such a eanimiiiiicatiov as had now been made, would be a subject of future e,,n id ration and IltNettssion; and. till enquiry had taken Oar—, he s:tould reserve his, opinion. 'lite Marquis of BUCEINOH‘M declared that lieshould so to this enquiry with an unbiassed mind. The address was agreed to. Lord Stninoteru then presentee the Papers its question, and moved that they should he illumined to the considera tion of a Committee consisting Of I I Lord , , who should be Militated for to-morrow at fair o'clock.—Adjottrneti. ~~_ WE1)A1:%1)4%, FELL o. The Earl of A nEuns.evreatLeit the table tits names of the Lords chosen to lino the cominitte • to inspect the papers comainnicated by the Prince uu the sit..jert of seditloste meetings and combination. The noble Earl did not read iu a tune so audible. as to b.• heard •liitinctly at the bar, but we tlioug!it we could distinguish the names of the Earl of Liver pool, Earl of Shaftsbory, Earl of St. Germains. Earl of on is, Lord Grenville, or Granville, Lard Holland or Auckland, and Lord Redesdale. THANKS TO LORD EXMOUTH. The LORD Clf NCRI.I.OR CORMlllllleated the thanks of the house to Lord Exmouth, who was in attendance in bis place. Lord Ex mourti.—After the high culogium which had just now been pronomiced upon him, their lordships must be aware that he could not but feel considcrahly embarrassed. tie had, however, a full sense of the obligation, and returnee! Isis beet thanks to the house for this high, di , tinguislied, and honourable testimony of their approbation. He must be less than man if Ile were not dilly sensible of the honour done him, and of the obligation under which lie had been laid by their Lordships, when, in addition to those honours which his Royal Highness the Ye Mee Regent had conferred on Mtn, be bad receii ed this testimony of the approbation of the highest ,sse mbiy in the known world. During the last forty years he had devoted to the British naval service his best endeavours which in the late enterprise against Algiers had been crowned with sure e•s, in consequence at the able and gallant manner in sheen lie haul been supported by the officers and crews of the ships of both nations ; and lie conld assert without hesita tion, that never on any former occasion had the British flag received more noble, more liberal, or more honourable sup port. He was sure that the gallant admirals, and all the officers mid crews, engaged in that contest, equally with him self would feel animated in their loyalty, and ill their Leal and devotion to the public sees ice, wises they found their ex ertions so highly appreciated. st lie 'address and reply were entered on the journals. Ad joui eied. THURSDAY FEBRUARY G. BOURBON DEBT TO THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT. Lord HOLLAND wished to put a question, which he hoped the Noble Earl would answer. It had been stated in the journals of this and every European country, and was no toi ions all over Europe, that the French Chamber of De puties had voted a sum of 12 millions of francs, being about 00,0001. to Louis the XVIII, in order to, pay a personal de ht acknowledged by that monarch to be due from him to the British Government. The question which he wished to have answered was, whether this sum had been paid to the British Government ; because, if it had, it was highly pro per and necessary that Parliament should know bow it had been applied. The Earl of LIVERPOOL.--Ile did not exactly know wli.tt debt the noble Lord meant. There were sums' claimed by British subjects from the French Government, which Ina been referred to commissioners for examination. Some of them had been acknowledged, and others were under con sideration. But except the sums which might have been paid to individuals on this account, amid the sums paid on account of the contribution and the supply of the army in France, he did not know that any payment had been made by the French Government, either to British subjects, or to the British Government. Lord HOLLAND.—The latter part of the noble Earl's an ewer was perfectly satisfactory, and such as he expected. The French Government had not paid the debt. He had thought it right to give the noble Earl an opportunity of sta ting the fact, whether the sum in question had °that' not been received by the British Government. LOAN TO THE FRENCH GOVERNMENT. The Earl of LA DER DAL E.—The noble Lord had stated, the claims of some British subjects against the French go vernment had been allowed, and that others were under con sideration : but there was another matter having some refer ence to this, respecting which he was desirous to have some information from the Noble Earl. It was notorious, that He gociations had taken place tor a loan front some indit idnols in this country to the French government. lie wished to know from the Noble Earl, how for the government of this country was connected with this tranction ; Ist, Whether the British government' had either directly or indirectly guaran teed the repayment of this loan; 2d, Whether Ministers had given information to the contractors, or persons concerned in it, that Rove ott never would interfere, or dud not con • skier itself as under auy obligation whatever at any future period to stipulate for its repa% merit. The Earl of LivEnroot. had not the least difficulty in stating, th it the British government had nut only out gua ranteed the payment of principal or interest of the loan in question, but had held out no hope whatever, that either now or at any fowl e period the govvrioncot would consider itself aa under any obligation to interfere, fur the purpose of sector ing the fulfilment by the French governm:mt of its engage ment with the contractors. The trunsaetion was not new in its nature ; for British subjects had been permitted to ad vance their money, if they thought proper, on Prologues, and other loans t and while 11 foreign country was in amity with this country, there was no law to prevent individuals from etigazinit in what might be considered as a Were com mercial transaethm. NEPAUL WAIL The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that in proposing to their Lorsiships to give a Vote Thanks to the Matt I itlis of tisigq, and to the et my' which had been engaged in the late campaign in the Nepaul territory, he should not calf for any opinion on the justice or necessity of that war. 'the vine he should move was one in which lie had no donbt of flair Lurdship's concurrence, as it would merely express their ap• pmbation of the plan of the campaign, and of the °pet:pion. which had led to its succestful teruituatiuu, lu reit:rune to FEBRUARY 10. what hail been said by a Noble Lord the oilier evening. as to difference of opinion respecting the prosecution of the war, he must observe, that the statement was (minded in error. That Noble Lord was completely wrong in supposing that any protest had been made by certain members of the Council in India against the is Wiili respect to the justice and necessity of commencing hostilities, there certainly was no difference of opinion in India ; and it also had been the opinion of She government of this country, that in order to check the encioachments and aggress:tins of the Nepaul power, no other t emedy remained hut an appeal to the sword. A se rie of e neroachments had taken place, which no govei !i -ntent valuing its character could have overlooked. These. aggressions, %Wel% it was rieei•ssary to cheek, inflicted an evil, not only on the British dominions in India, hut on !hose of our allies. tie mould not trouble their Lordships with any details of the operations. The accounts were b e f ore the p. , and to them he should refer for th e tent h o f the cha racter he hail given to this campaign. He cooelniled by moving, that Lie thanks of the house be given to the most Noble the Marquis of Hastings, for the able and judicious arrangen ents by which the war in Nepaid had her n lin ought to so soccessflil a conclusion.. Emir/ROWE:um—He hid intended to have troubled their Lordthips at ..01111V length on the subject of the Nepaid war, in consequence of what had fallen ti on, the Noble St.i.l*l••• tary of State, hr should resert e what lie intended to say to another opportunity. The n u was then agreed to , after which thanks were voted to Sir David Oeliterlouy, and the troops under hip jour _ Pill DAY, FED. T. Mr. CRAFSTUCY w,ts heard AS counsel In the Queensbliry calm, tuid the further hearing %%As gustpuned till Muuthay The Carl of Mu ORTON presented some petitions relative to appeals from the Court of Sessiou in Scotland, vi hich were re ferred to the Committee of Appeals.—Adjourned to Monthly, HOUSE OF COMMONS. BIONDAI, FEB. 3. The SPEAKER Reg 'tainted the House, that this Home had waited on the Prince Regent, int xvitli the Address in answer to the Speech; to It:. Ito al Highness was pleased to return a most graciims answer, thanking them for their cordial assurance: of loyalty and sopport. which was highly gratifying to his feelings, and could not fail of produc ing the happiest results at this amport.int conjuncture. Mr. M. A. TAytnit tenets ed his aiuniai motion for bring. ing iu a Lull fur the better pas ing of the street, of the mai a..* polls. Lord A. HAMILTON presented two Petitions on the Roiliject of Parliamentary Reform. The Petitions tiers Laid oil the table. M.F.S.SAGE FROM Tilt PRINCE ILLIGENT. Lord t. tsTLEREAGII brought doeiu a Message from the Prince Regent to the following effect " 0. P. R.—His Royal :he Prince Regent, whiz,. in the name and on the behalf of his Majesty, hits given 0r,i1.1 A to by before the House of Commons certain pavers, vim tinning information of meetings, combinations and practires, calculated to endanger the public tranquillity, to altelAte the affections of his Majesty's faithful subjects, and to nriug into hatred and contempt the whole system of our Constitution ; and recomineitiling his faithful Commons to take the same into immediate consideration," On the motion of the Noble Lord, the Message was ordcreil to be taken into consideration to-morrow. • LORD EXMOUTH. lord CASTLEREAGH moved a Vote of Thanks to Lord Viscount Exmouth. The Noble Lord observed, that in moving, these thanks, lie should propose to join the names of Admiral . Van Capeilan, mid the Officers of the Navy of the King of the Neimotaiids, who hid exhibited such skill end bravery, united !vith the gallant Admiral. Mr. LAW cordially joined in the expression of Thanks to our brave Allies, for their exertions in union with our brave countrymen who had volunteered on the occasion. If there was any circumstance which could have added to the atory of Lord Exmouth, it was the manner in which he had conducted the negociation. The Thanks were then agreed to, nem roe. Lord CASTLEREAGH then moved the Thanks to Rea• Ad miral Sir D. Milne, &c. The motion was ;geed to; and also Thanks to the Seamen and Murices. _ Thanks were then voted to Admiral Baron Von De Cape!. len, 6:c. THE EXPENDITURE. A Petition was presented from King's Lynn, and some ntlii• E !dares, iu Norfolk, praying for Reform in Parliament. --They were laid on the table. THOMAS DOGOOD. Lord rOLAIESTONE said, he had iu his hand a Petition from an humble individual, praying for relief. He stated, that this iu liyiduat was taken up by two police officers, for tearing down a posting bill, carried before a magistrate, his pockets searched, his property taken from him, and he was committed to prison as a vagrant. not having the visilile means of living —WAS confined there twelve days, I. d mi bread and water. and at length brought up, tied hi a string n ith fifty other per sons, and discharged at the Sessions for want of prosecution. - hear! Mr. H . ADDINGTON ob.erret!, th.tt if the pledge given by the two persons at the examination ;it the police office hail been followed lip, by a representation to the Dome Department, lie could assure the Noble Lord, that the Secre tary of State would base attended to it. The ATTORNLY-GENERAL observed, that the Courts of Law were open to him. He thought this mode of coining to Parliament would ue attends il with di-advantage. Mr. ADDINGTON pledged himself to make tittpiiry bite the subject oldie Petition, in the course of a few days, if the Noble Lord would not press the Committee. Lot d FoLftesvora. said, lie could not consent to withdraw his motion, unless the Attorney.lieneral would engage to cuai , ltict the case on the pat t of the prosecution. Time'flee \TTouaev-Gl.,Lu.vt. , astheLawOdiveruftieCrown, was not to liberty to exerciAl• his own feelings ; ant the Noble Lord might ue assured, that many of the must en •ut Gen. tleincti at the Bar might tie found ready to uadvrteku to cue. duet the ease of the Petitioner. sir F. BURDETT observed, that the opinion of the Hon. Anil Le.trocil Gentlemen was tut rest ; t.nl i. WWI necessary tir a pauper to get his certificate signed by a professional "taut—a COIDORI. Now wouhl the Hi/11.1111a Learned tiemati do how the favour to sign the t ertificatc After some ouiervations from the Attorney General, &e. the Noble Lord consented to %idol' AO' his 111 , 4“111. rt:IiIIOUS tor Reform were present .d fro.o Sheffield, Cass