The National Register. — London, England, 1812-03-01 00:00:00

MARCH - the aamage and the out:Agee- emer part we.s mei cly confurnee. to other Acts of Parliament, previously framed \vith a view to similar o ff e nces; The root of the evil appeered to be in the difficulty of detec tion, and that diffieulty rested cm the ildness V.: the law as it at present stood, and Vlitch,e.videnti i y called fyr 1114 sort of rigour which had often been effectual; by'etillsing terror, into the minds of the guilty and the mischieroe.e; but such, rig Cur was only intended to have a temporary operation, it .was obvious to review and yeconsbleration, and by no means meant to add pernaneneyeo,the severity of the penal code. His Lordship concluded .with moving, that the Bill be .read a second,time. . • Lord Maw; obseived, that . in9fiering his seatiments on the tub ect before the House, he ,Inauleespeak time a personal knowledge of a good deal of what related to it. Greet disolders had undoubtedly existed, 4nd he had known of 40 frames being broken and destroyed by the active perseverance of a body of . men, habitually, till that occasion, industrious and honest. Large detachments of the military had been sent down, and Officers of police had been sent doWn, and authorised to take up many persons but these were measures which would much better have been superseded by others of grave, wise, aid rational inquiry into the true cause and origin of the disorders. That would be found in the misery attendant on the decay of trade and manufactures, in the policy which had, unhapily for the country, been too long pursued by his Majesty's Ministers, whose, proceedings were marked throughout by weakness, rashness,anditiconsistency; by marches and counterrn arc lies,termin ating only in miscarriage, ushered forth With all the pride, pomp, and cir cumstance of glorious ware The harsh and cruel.measure proposed in the Bill he could by no means approve of, and thought that even a mob might be better reclaimed by conciliation and mildness than by rigour; and When be recolleCted the benevolent eaerti , ms which in this coun try had taken place in behalf of the suff.Tine and distressed . Portuguese, lie could not 'help contrasting that benevolence with the harshness set forth in the present Bill. But the evils no the correction of which their Lordships ought to look, were pht confined to Nottiegbarn ; at Bristol and .its neighbourhood he had lately witnessed misery not less striking and deplorable, ~To obviate such tlistreaste rigour was not the hopeful means ; Martial Lew and decimation, were not to be applied to a wheat country—in short e senv:ticcd ..as he was, that to pass the Bill without impity might produce the - Worst consequences, he iheuld oppose the second reading. Loud Hoeemae conceiving that he stood in a pectliar situatign re specting the Bill under consideration, ceeld not suffer it to proceed without some observatiop. 'He had been the first in that House to call the attention of their Loedships to the diseiders s at Nottingham, but he deprecated being supposed for a mOmeat to have been eensentine to any thing so monstrous as :he Bill in question ; and howsoever he might (Deplore the evils felt and complained'of a he should piths the rejection to the adoption of the Bill. The LORD CDANCELL'OR should not detain the House !Ong. If tie: Bill was such as'it had been described,iinwise, iniprovident, and foolish,; it would well become their Lordships to reject it, but till that was made out he tousf support the Bill . The eesorders in Nottingham were ; of a different description from those for whiclethe statete of die 28th' of his Majesty was provided. They betrayed a systematic defiance of all law. The object of the Bill was to facilitate the means of a &sec- . den. For that purpose, both parts of the Bill should be taken in a com bined view. The suggestion of the Noble Baron (LOrd Holland), respecting the rendering responsible the persons in whose houses frames might he broke, was not practiczVe for they were generally mums wit hone property. Lord qassvizee could not suffer the Bill to be read a second time without erpressitig his indignation at the principle of it. He did erpcet -from the Noble Lords ()volute sonic show or semblance of argument, in support of a meaiss-e that was to aa:l another Act to the black and horrible catalogue which marks and stigmatizes our Statute &wk. But while. he lived hi a 'country professing to be governed - by laws, he ' newer would consent to I.lve the lives of his fellow citiiens dependent on the discretion of a Minister, or the mercy of a Judge. The question was then put, when theee appeal-valor the second read ing, 38 ; against it, 17. 'lhp Bill was then ordered to be committed on ;t,londay.,Adjourned. FRIDAY ' , TSB. 28. • • ORDERS IN COUNCIL. • The Marquis of LANSDOWN E rose, for the.perpose of calling the at tention of their Lordships to a subject of great magnitude and deep it'll portance—the Orders in Connell issued by his Majesty's Govemmpnt ; and operating with such baneful effects upon the commerce and prospe rity of the country. He was desirous to impi C6S, on the conskieratton of the House, what had been the c ons e que n ces of those measures on the resources of the enemy ; what had resulted of advantage to our selves ; and .what had been their baneful effect upon - our interests, as connected with Neutral States. To judge rightly of the Or.ers in Council, it would be well for the House to consider what Was the con dition of our commerce, and the state of the ports on the Continent a; tlu titer of issuin g those Criers and now. in 18u7, all the . ports 4 the enemy were in a state of blockade. In ico, the mischievous effects Were manifest in their op,:ration up neutrals and it was incumbent on !..se who recommended or devisecl•the measure, to state or show what ?his ad beta the effect of their policy upon the enemy, upon his power, or roQ'.!r ,. ,t3. ;'Vi: re advantw., to ourselves hail most cc ntidently been - THE NATIONAL NATIONAL RE(ISTER. Inl . .. , ,-.. e looked for, they had only turned out to thebeeiefti. , ot the the, and 1 - where we had aimed at uesttu . • a hi Odr acivero: ty, we bad only can !, tributed to his strength and aggiendisement. The iut:ciwre, indeed, Was naturally calculated not to injure France, but America; - and, 41kotAgh America, ourselves. The expedient adopted to correct the evil, too soon roanihet by granting liceoses to trade to Vrance and Hol land, was impolitic, ioittrious, and unjust in 'the eetrente; It went, to the utmost extent, sloe t of declared ever of mercentile hoshii!) , with America, and, by. a most preposteroug contrivance, to augmeot the power and resources of our declared and invet e rate enemy, France: he advantage resulting to Prince, by her connexion with Atnartca,di4 not exceed 500,0001.; and for so petty a consideration, so great an. ittinse the was to be committed on the interests, and sogreat ap • outrage on the national feelings, of ile only Power, at prescohexistlog, which could properly be called neutral. tie knew that no less than 100,000 bales. of cotton, and of cotton twist, were exported from elinterica to the Baltic i and to Trieste. While she could afford thus to wort in eh large and ! new a measure that v4111;614 chuck of manufaetuve, she was not inat•;. tentive to the looms which mielit keep it more peofnably at home, and which already afforded a reaseeahlp expectation, that she should sormi by Industry and ingenuity, urged oti by patrlotlem . , be equal to her owl./ innply. Upon the subject of the licenses and their pernicious souse. quences, his Lordship dwelt 'irneib,ly upon the nationalittjustice which .they involved. One notable instance of the eeal with which some Jima would avail themselveaof an imprei:er or iniquitouhpriyilege,he should mention, 15,0e01. hed been oih.rod for a license to import brandy, ,:u h presumption that such q license had been grant: d to another person: His Lordship then called the attention of the Howie to 'the general statement of Imports and Exports, which lay von their Table, Irani which it would be found, that in three quarters of a year, there was a defalcation of no less than ] 5 millions, and of 20 millions tor the .'holei of the year 1811. Upon the Negotiation with America, he would touch. as littid as possible . . He would not a9rin with America, th.a this; were; try was actpated by rth any hostile or uar dispi)sition 'towards her; and I most earne:dy he deprecated the calamities of war. What Imo: he the Iconsequence of one hundred elid tarty thousand seamen being e.,•li-,1 to the strength of f rance, and no le•=s than tivo millions of tons iii shit-en* i i i What the consequence in the Peniuspla, where a large perteureof the }.habitants both of Spain and. Portugal, as well as our armies, arc r.tipe 1 . pihisi with food from' America, and who, in care that source' were gripped, must be fed by this country ? Those ceesereuences must ,lie evident to every Noble Lord who heard him, and could not rail to int. press him with the clear necessity Of eeter;ng into a scrip is iequiry esel ,'. the sublect. His Lordship t:oncluttecl, by ne•eing for ."a Select Com ntittee, to consider the Cornmereial State of the C entry, the Chdere '1 in Council, and the Licenses, and other .lhoes connected therewith,", • i ILord BATUURsT said, he did not mean to follow the Noble Marquie through the Various politheal al'usions in which he le ht halulgedliirashlf; i but he would ask the Noble Marquis, whether it was his wish td . he 70 i the Order of ianuary, 1907, repealed: if so, he could inforin him thkt Ole entertained a wish which, if carried into execution, could not bit f . prove exceedingly detrimental to the ententhircihl prosperity pf this t country. The principle etprin which - that Order was passed was t.- pre vent neutrals frem interfering, in time bf war,. With the crenuterce . 4 i the Belligerent Powers, in such a manlier as could' rentlerefihctual a , . .sistance in one of them, to the material detriment of the other. The • • Oyster of 1907 was a blockade by . ..nothication. The Noble Marhuis ha , i said that there would be no oetiasiOn . for licenses *ere it tint for 'the Orders in Coupcil; but the truth was, that the great bull: of liceniets was to those ports not under estate of blockade; s: hick not by any raeans'alfected by the Orders; of course this ohservatipn was entirely -.vithout foundation. It heel been stated that these Order's; in conse quence of the vast number of foreign ships which they had occasioned 'hi be employed in 13ritishcomm eve, were.heiyinktrioes to the navigation of the countre; but if the greeter part of terepe was . pilieed under tahli circamstancts as to excludt. from its ptira the 'British slineping, it evia ' necessary to have recourse to the shipping of other countries (Or thil carrying on of this comieerce. In the year 18i.'6, when the . trade of title ' .country was considered in e highly r rasptioo _state; and to - whole 'Oe the Bettie was open to its ceaonerce, the Cumber of ser,mhe ~.mpleyt4 e, is not more than 188,47 G. In leach atter` the winter. -ef this c nu 'try had been excluded in a great reeachre front the Ealtic, the it 't of seanien employed was nch less then 210.600. Here wes dear y It increase of near 90,000; at a peried aidien our commerce, and the num ber of British seamen employed in it was cons . ..tiered by many personl tri ht sutferint, in consequence of the Orders in Council. lit 'OO7, an . Order had been issued by the Noble Loh.h opposite, end tie.ir friends: That Order was much of the hihne nature a., the Order? of Which they new compleintd, audits ostensihle object—aid lee believed it Ohild have no other ohject in view;.;-was the incrha . , e of . 13iitith trade to those commies then under the dcpiini: nof fret - ice; ant, ';ff woitid ib y , uiatei what other principle than the encouragorent'atid j - I•otecticin ot •I.lritish cemmercewere the other Orders isseed, which had' .ieeehecome the eletees i of so much hostility 11. i n ,.. the /o . lale Lord's on ea' qpposite side Ey the . ot,:er of 18Q7, 'the (Any conaitioo _required was a letitish desti nation, and if this Were provo.l, - th'e vessef yeas pertnitted ta proceed without further molestation ; .bot in finite time after, frarn putiferot:? repre4ent.4t WAS made to the Board of Trade, that Board thoughe . th ail -1 vis:lble to introduce some eiteratihis in ifc&rsesa It *as pot'right td f•t• : # that the Orders were pthser! fur the purpose nf e.reliving • Fro:ce of ...q t: ad... 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