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190 hiperia Par li.rate.,t eastiameil from pays 187.) - - TYTHEA, GOL:LBUIesi rose to bring for orlril his promised motion on the subject of the tythes iu Ire spok? of the great importance of the subject, and of the seii:vus and earnest attention that had peen lurid to it by himself and the government. lie hoped his proposition would be received with the most liberal views. Ile did not aspect to sati►fy those who desired to avail theuisels es of the church pro • perry, to alleviate existing dillieulties. Ile should not propose a commutating of tythes, hut he should not submit any thing that would peseta the adoption of any such measure. Against • lair commutation he should say nothing—but be mug oppose the commutation proposed by those who had interests opposed to the church ; for what short of spolia:ion would it he ? The tythes Ile viewed as private property, and property of the most sacred character. It belonged to the wont important, the most respectshle, and the most valuable class of the ri 00000 ; there misirt he individuals ainoagst them who did not so closely confine themselves to their duties as might be desired ; but lit 'pose ul• them as a class. As the question regarded private property, he shooks epproseh it with the greatest caution.—lf his proposition were adopted, it would remove all the objections respectie; which there had been rational coinplaint. He begged to ray, however, that much complaint had resulted that did not originate with the tytlies ; it more partizularly belonged In the teuere of lands, to old custom*, to the manners of the people, cArtidely not u the tythes. Tythe property certainly was at t.:m.l,d with grievances to Ireland—that did not accompany that species of property elsewhere. Ile must, however, here guard himself against countenancing the belief that the clergy exacted their tythes in an oppressive 'winner ;—he was per suaded that the clergy excreted less tythes than they were en titled to enforce. To renaorly the evils complsined of, lie con sideretl teat it would be adviseable to enable the parties to lease th tsthes , lie therefore moved fur leave to briag in a bilk° enable incombents to grant leases of ty dies, which leases should he binding on their successors. bir H. PARN ELL complained of the measure, as being ins devate to the evils that were to be remedied. If no better remedy could he provided, it would be better tat all attempts at amendment should be postponed till the next session ; he should prefer Nadi postponement to the proposition now made. Sir .1. NEW rola pursued a like course of argument, and entered into some details of the grievances rssulting from the tythe system in Ireland. Mr. S. RICE oppnFed the Mr. HAW SON, at considerable length, supported it. Mr. 1). 13..0wn and Capt. O'Grady also gate their support to the propoiilinil of the right hon. Secretvry. CorilLUN 'RADER ltY subiniitml that t! is was not the period for discuasing the Lill. Unless there was soroctliiiii: radically wrung in it. principle, he presumed :Ind, in COIIIIII6II courtesy. his right hon. friend wtiuld be allowed to bring it in, and base it read a hist time. Mr. II U I CII I N 30N was inclined to give Ministers leave to bring in the bill, reserving himself free to discuss its melits hereafter. Lire was ultimately ..,ivets. NAVAL. AM) MILITARY PENSIONS BILL The linage resolved itatlfinto a committee on the above solite *eft's!, aumudiuenta were agreed to tiiitni the 'notion of ?dr. Greisf. I. Mr. HUME entered his protest against the absurd and ridi culous plan of the right hon. gent. He thought it would be more expedient to have recourse to the sinking fund at once. The resolutions were agreed to. the House resumed, and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at half-past eleven o'clock. PIcfPAY. JUNE 14. Mr. COKE proscuied a petition from certain vernans in Nor folk, complaining, of agricultural distress, and pra)ing for Par liamentary reform. SA LT Inz.--Gen. CASCOYNE asked whether it was the inlet:lion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to persevere iu the 2s. salt duty, or to repeal the whole of the tas. The public sore anxious that something, derided shuuld he made known. Mr. H. SL:MN ::1t said, the public were Mao:in:Mos about fie ;Lather tax. Che CHAM:IESLOR replied, thet it wan intended that the 2s. on silt used for internal consumption should be continued , but that the tax on salt need in the fisheries for two 'ears should be continued as they now were. Ibe duty also to be repealed un silt exported to Ireland. Scotland was aLowed to be placed in a situation neatly similar to Ireland. Scotland was to make sett ditty free, and the exemption was to extend to all salt used in its fisheries. And salt %$ AS to be manufactured duty free iu Ireland. Should the House approve of this plan, be should persevere in thn proposed repeal of the leather tax. Mr. eCii WEN said, this arrint..;ement did *tat remove his objections. lie submitted whether it would not be better to give notice to such tiled, and bring forward the subject uu )ion ay. t 1:. I!ONEY%VOOD presented the Kent county petition, praying for a reform, and a reduction of the inter,,t of the publi.• debt. He lamented tl•e introduction of the latter claeoe into the petition— but he was perauadid that it would nut have been adopted had the complaints of the people been attended to. 't he petitioners condemned the setting apart of bye millions, so long as the burdens of the people continued so heavy. They also couip.aine4 of the gross misapplication of tie• public money, by which that House had been corrupted." The petition bating been read. Sir E. KNATCHBULL said, he condemned the onion of agricultural aistress with reform ; that distress existed, he ad admitted, but the necessity of reform be questioned. After the 14 big petition bad been propos J, a gentleman I Mr. ( obbett) who represented himself to be a Whiz freeholder—the truth of which lie did not litow—prupo.wd the clause, to which ob jection had been made, by way of rider ; but it was the lamest rider tbut a Whig ho. se had ever been required to carry. The conduct of some noble bolds on that occasion he also regretted. —He was sorry that they bad nut more pointedly resisted the proposition, corning as it did from such a man with such a rha recter fur be poet:dined it to be a most disgraceful proposition. If the noble Lords, like the hon. meinher who had presented the petition, bad expressed their disapprobation of the proposition. at might easily have been gut rid of. It now uuly remained for Li.), in the name of the county of Kent, to protest against the clause recommending so infraction of the public credit; for Dine-tenths, lie might say of all the respectable freeholders, Were against the proposition. Mr. HON KY WOOD deel.ed that the petition had who!l! emanated from the Whig interest ; there were many of the meeting, and of the 2bU requisitionists, who never had called theiusilres Whirr. Lord J. RUSSELL feared it was the truth—and a melan choly truth it was—tld, there were men in such deep distress, notwithstanding the property they had possessed, who would c , :teli at any chanc..s (hit seemed to proffer relief. Like d ownio4 lieu, in the wreck of their fortunes they would catch at strews. As to the subject of reform. he stated that be should seetw Las mows to psuarate it us Wo oatlasst muuruolu up• THE NATIONAL REGISTER portallity ; and he trusted that the House would consent to go into a committee ma that filltßiloill. As to the" just" reduction of it. (boa. which was required by the petition, hr ►new no. loin; shout a " just" reuuction ante debt. ' I be debts bad been contracted by legal Houses of Pailianient, and the country were bound to sustain them Lord LONDONDERRY said he bad not heard the petitiou read, but he did not rise to oppose the petition. Its particular clause lie only rose to reprobate; its prayer was not a ground for objection to the petition. Ile wished it to remain on the records of Parliament, 19 warn other counties agaiust the dis grace which Kent had fixed on itself. The debt was as just, and they were as bound to support it, as they were to sustain the noble property and title of the Duke of Medford.—(Hear, hear.)—As to the necessity" which the noble Lord seemed to hint at, let him be cautions how he advocated the doctrine of necessity ; that some necessity might he applied to the posses sions of the noble Duke. (Hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL said he contemplated no necessity as warranting a reduction, except the absolute want of Walla to to continue to pay the Merest. Ile, however, had not been aware that the noble lord was each a critic in words (A laugh.) That any persons should be brought to Sanction such a clause, lie mainly attributed to the measures of the noble lord. (Hear.) Mr. CALCRAFT strongly condemned the odious clause its the petition. The lion, members should have resisted it; they should have explained it to the meeting; and they should have warned the county of the disgrace that threatened them. Had they done this, he thought it would have been successful. Mr. J. SMITH also condemned the petition. He was glad that the necessity had been explained; as explained, there could be no objection to it. Mr. BROLLHAM said, very unnecessary blame had been east on the shig leaders. The county meeting had been con demned ; the ministers might well be alarmed at county meet ings; ti.r if Kest could not be trusted, he knew nut what county in England could be suffered to :nett. As to the nubile persons who had attended the meeting, he had their words tar stating that they did vote against the odious clause. It was, notwith standing adopted by a vast majority. He also understood. frusn those who were present, that such was the opinion of the meeting in favour of the obnoxious clause, that all resistance was vain. That was their distinct impression. The meeting. too, was not confined to oae party, or one class of persons ; amongst them indeed were many of the honourable baronet's faiends. The clause was adapt .tit by accident; it was resisted as far as it could be ; lint it did not diminish the general weight of the petition. The noble marquis might discounte naece county meetings ; bat he trusted that they would go on, and would duly uud forcibly represent their grievances. As to the reduction of the debt, Both ng would warrant it, except that necessity where all consent was out of the question. Mr. Cab -raft and Sir E. linatchboll explained. Lord LONDONDERRY, in explanation, appealed to the House whether be had ever said any thing condemnatory of county meetings—(hear); —indeed that was unnecessary. be cause he thought there was not likely to be any county meetings that would so far disgrace themselves. The clause was odious end dishonest. Mr. ItROCCIIAM, in explanation, said the proposition was not more disgraceful than the measures of the noWe lord and his friends, who had for years deprecated the currency. I► was not more dishonest.—(hear, bear! ) Lord o.ill'l)EN expressed his regret that he was present at the Kent county meeting, and that the leaders of the meeting abould have had so little spirit a., to admit the adoption of such clause. Mr. Cobbett mime forward at the close of the meeting. when there generally was u.t:ch COllOlBll ~,, ; and how he got sorb possession of the meeting as to him unaceountal le. Sir F. BURDErI' vindicated the petitioners. They had no rigid to be branded as robbeis, and as proposing what was unjust. NI hat they proposed, many good and able wen ad mint(' to be correct—admitted that these who undertAten to [my 20s. in the pound, were sot to be milks; to psy 30s.— That was a flair stabjoet for discusvi tttt ; and if the se.retary of state for the home department were so fond of "plaitedealitig,* as lie called Mr. Cobbeles proposition, he was likely to beat more of it. The truth was, the country would not be the dupes of the'gentlemen opposite; they were not to be deluded by mock plans of sham retreueliment.—(llear, hear.) Petitimi ordered to be primed. The order of the day for the second reading of the ♦lien Bill was rend. Sir J. MACINTOSH strongly opposed the bill. It pee an irresponsible power ; it v.as most unjust and impolitic. It was not only felt in this ci‘untr —it operated in other countries.— Ile moved that --instead of " now," the bill should be read this day Sin months " Mr. I'LL , . KEW defended the bill, whirl he contended was necessary on political grounds, 1111.1 did not deserve the character which load been given to i:. The sending of In re igni rs out of the country was one of the ancient prerogatives ..f the crown, and one which the country approved, as it. was only opposed by a few in thut House. Ile denied that the powers giim by this act had been &baud by ministers. if any cue of that description had occurred, the country would have rung with it from one end to the other. He believed the intro duction of this and the other measures of 1793, had been the preservation of the country ; and had it not been for those measures, he verily believed that there would not now have existed the power of debating this or any other question. Mr. Home proposed to adjourn the debate. The House divided.—For adjourning 16, against it 166. Majority 150. The House again divided.--For the second reading 100— Against it 74-111...j0t ity for the hill 34. Adjourned at a quarter before two. FROM TUESDAY WIGHT'S GAZETTE. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. J. Ranting, Cumberland Street. Marylebone, carpenter. BANKRUPTS. T. Shipworth. Tidworth Warren Farm. Ilants, sheep dealer. Solicitors. Met.sts. Bouslicld and Co. Temple. J. Billimiton. latirliester, shopkeeper. Sols. Niesars. Adling ton and Co. Bedford Row. J. Baines I.ubenliani, Leicestershire, baker. Soh. Messrs. Montrion and Co. King's Arms Yard. Coleman Street. IL Husband, Plymouth, mercer. Sul. Mr. Makinson, Middle nmle. H. Cobb. Grimmer. Kent. farmer. Sole. Messrs. Lowe and Co. Soutnaunpron Buildings. Cluiricery I.une. H. Brudbuty, Stone. Staftindshire, dealer. Sol. Mr. Barbor, Feuer Lune. G. Waltman. Sheffield, merchant. Sol. Mr. Duncan, Gray's Inn. . . - -- T. Aethell. Poole, Dorsetstaire, painter. Soli,. Nlesbot. llo lme and Co. New Ina. . . . H. Quiher, Leicester. victualler. Fula. ?duo's. liolnie and Co. New Inn. S. ;thug, Plymouth, com and Him. merchant. Sol. Mr. ufilm, 1 cwitle.. T. 01ley, Clara, Suffolk, tnaltster. Sol. Mr. Stevens, Gray's Inn Square. S C. Boyd. Oxford. inc merchant. Sol. Mr. B:idger, Angel Court, Tiniogii,oriu,, schst • I)! ITWNDS. _ July 3. J. Au:ley, Great I',umouth, grocer-2, J. Mann, Leeds, common brewer—lß, W. Prosser, Ilereford, grocer—V, I.'l'r...eru St. %lartiu Street, Leicester Fields. v manlier-2, R. Wilson. Cleuient's Lame, broker-2. I. Hill. Bradwell, Der— byshire, baker-4. E. Alayor and J. Keeling, Shelton, Stafford• shire. factors-5, T. Bidwith. Dagginswood. Salop, taunter-6, W. Maltby, jun. and %V. Thorpe, Jun. Bath, linen drapers-2, J. King, Great. l'ehltiam, Essex, linen draper—v, W. and J. F. Lea. Paternoster Boy, ribarul manufacturers-2, T. Webb, Garlick Hill, coal merchant—S, W. and R. Booth, Bishopwear. mouth, Durham, ship builders—G. J. Benson. Birmingham, pocket book maker-5., J. Wynde, Leominster, hop merchant. ANNIVERSARY MNETING OF THE CHARITY CHILDREN On Thursday the Anni y Meeting of the Children of both sexes, educated in the Charity Schools of the Cities of London and Westminster, Borough of Southwark, and other parts of the Metropolis, was astebrated at the Cathedral Church of St. Paul. SOl , ll alter ten o'clock, the streets leading to the Church were lined with the children passing is procession, headed by their teachers and beadles, carryiog batons and banners, to wards the Cathedral, where, on their arrival, they were con ducted to the seats alloted for thew under the dome of the &a cted building, by the gentleut ru of the Committee, and before twelve o'clock upwards of right thousand of the rising gene ration, clad in homely but decent and comfortably apparel, had assembled. The seats of the children were erected in a oircularm form, rising one above another to an inuneuse height. In the middle of the circle, under the great dome, was a temporary pulpit around which were pews and forms for the accommodation of the company, and were filled with rank, beauty, and fashion.-- About twelve o'clock his Royal Highness the Duke of Clot'. center, President of the Institution, arrived in his carriage, at tended by Colonel Higgins. The Royal President was met at the great western entrance by Messrs. Greenaway and Stable, the Treasurers, and the gentlemen of the Committee, who conducted his Royal Highness to his great chair, appropriated fur him on the right of the pulpit. Immediately after the per formances commenced with the 100th psalm, which was sung by the children, assisted by the gentlemen of the choir, sod accompanied by .Ir. Atwood, on the organ ; the first leeso■ ended with the Choir chaunting the reading psalms, the chil dren joining' in the Glori Pain to each psalm. After the first part. re Ikuni by the choristers ; after the second lesson, Jubilate Leo, by the gentlemen of the Choir. The Grand Co ronation Anthem by the Choir, assisted by the shildren in grand aortas A prayer for the King was read ; then followed the 113th psalm, sung by the children, and finishing with Hallelujah chorus. Immediately after an excellent Sermon was preached be the Right Reverend Father in God the Lord Bishop of liristol. Alter the Sermon four verses of the 1114th psalm were chaunted by the children, and a Grand Chorus, by Han del, was sung by the Choir, joined by the children. Ihe per formances concluded with the Hallelujah chorus. . _ Front the judicious arrangements that were made for ventla. lion, only four of the children were overpowered with the heat the whole day. The patrons and supporters of the Institution repaired to the Old London Tavern to dinner. His Royal Highness the Duke of Glouce►ter in the Chair, supported on the right by the Right Rev. Bishop of Blistul, and on the left by Sir Claudius Stephen Hunter. After toe cloth was rerun% e•d. Num snlis dowisti was song by M . Pyne, 'Finney, Carter, and Master Smith. Alter which Sir Claudins Stephen Hunter proposed the health of the Duke of Unticester, President of the institution, and his kuyal Highness returned thanks in a v. ry handsome man ner. The company passed the evening with the greatest hi larity. Commoi Cooecit..--The Lord Mayor held a Court of Commou Council on Friday last, for the general dispatch of public business, at which they proceeded on the consideration of the Report twin the Coal and Corn Committee, for the filling im the present vacancies in the situation of Deputy Sea Co +1 Meters, and for ap pointing six additional Meters, so as in the whole to have 118, which, after some discussion, was agreed to; and the Lord Mayor appointed the 45th instant, for the pur pose ul the election taking place, when twelve will be appointed accordingly.—'l ne Bridge-House Committee dchvered in a Report on the fur her proceedina relative to London Bridge. the Committee of the [louse of Com ments recommending in. (ructions to be given to engi. neers, that the height of the centre arch of the new bridge should be :13 feet t bore hitch water mark; am/ the acclivity of the road-way over the bridge one foot in 21i—which was agreed to.—A reference was made to the Committee of City Lands, to consider the most eligible plan for holding two Cams, during the sessions at the Old Bailey. Ordered to cooler with the Court of Alder men, and report thereon.—The Court proceeded to con sider the Report of the Committee of Cby Lands relative to Newgate.market, and alter some discussion it was referred back for re.consideration, and for theConimittee to inquire for what the site of the Physicians' College may be purchased, and to report thereon. On Monday a general public meeting of the subscribers and friends of the Society for Qrop•gatiag Christian Lnowledge in the Highlands and Islands, took place at Free• mason's Hall, when a numerous and must respectable body of persons assembled, chiefly consisting of ladies elegantly dtes■- ed. In the absence of his Royal Highness the Duke of Sus sex, the Rev. Mr. Manuel was called to the chair, and vies supported by several eminent individuals. Upwards of 350 seuti•aries are now supported by the society, and about 20,000 children are receiving the benefits of instruction, sod titbits of industry are instilled into the children. The Scrip tures have been translated into Gaelic, and in that and t h e English language have been istributed, and tracts. with • variet•' of books for elementary teiliun, have been circulated in the highlands and islands. The population of the highlands and islands is estimated at about 4,000,000 persons. The yearly revenue of the society generally amounts to 60001. anal with that sum 30,000 children are educated yearly. A mitres winding branch of the society has been established in London for the last century, whose sole object is to raise the Nods of the society. Several speeches were delivered, and the cum• pang wade • handsome rubscription, what they separated.